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Steny Hoyer: We Must Protect The Most Important Clients of the VA-- Democrat-Voting Government Bureaucrats

He says that the GOP is "politicizing" the VA scandal, apparently by refusing to go along with the standard operating Democrat procedure of stonewall, cover-up, distraction, and then saying "That was two years ago dude."

The House's No. 2 Democrat accused Republicans of exploiting the scandal that has enveloped the Veterans Affairs Department for political gain and said he is worried that civil servants could be swept up unfairly in a witch hunt.

Is there anyone in America apart from a union-serving progressive office-holder who sees the main problem with the VA scandal as exposing civil servants to unfair disciplinary measures?

It is incredible. We're only a few weeks of genuine coverage of this scandal and the Democrats are already hitting the Phony Scandal button.

Usually they'd wait for a nothing-to-see-here cook-the-books cover-up report for that.

"I don't think there's any doubt about it... that is essentially the tactic that Republicans are trying to employ," Minority Whip Steny Hoyer of Maryland told reporters Wednesday.

"In some cases there are huge fishing expeditions which are going on for millions of documents that goes beyond the realm of oversight and politicizes the issue very greatly."

Previous cover-ups have ended with IG's claiming they didn't have any "substantiation" for wrongdoing that was plainly going on.

The only way to get such substantiation is by getting the emails, as the Daily Beast did.

But of course Steny Hoyer doesn't want that -- he wants to protect his real constituents, government workers.

And if that means average wait times of 115 days -- with official, fraudulent records showing average wait times of only twenty four days -- and if that means that 40 veterans died in the government queue in Phoenix alone -- well, so be it.

Here's why time is of the essence here:

The IG also took care to note that, of the 42 VA facilities where his teams are now gathering evidence, none received advance notice that they were coming. Why? Because he's worried about "the risk of destruction of evidence, manipulation of data, and coaching staff on how to respond to our interview questions." That was the key takeaway from the Daily Beast "crime syndicate" story that Ed blogged this morning-- even the higher-ups inside the VA know or should have known that this has been going on, and since everyone's potentially culpable, the chances of a conspiracy to cover it up are unusually high. (The IG notes at one point that the DOJ may eventually be involved here in a civil or criminal manner.) This is what caring for America's soldiers has come to, a race against time to ferret out evidence of egregious negligence towards sick vets before the "caretakers" can sweep it under the rug.

But Steny Hoyer has his eye on the ball, and that ball is named The Party of Government:


...

"I don't think that serving veterans is antithetical to making sure that employees of the federal government have the civil service protections that were adopted as long ago as the Pendleton [Civil Service Reform] Act in the 19th Century," said Hoyer, whose district includes a large number of federal workers.

"Our civil service system is designed not to be a system where people serve at the will of those who win elections. It's a professional civil service [that is] protected."

Note once again, Democrats only want to punish The System, because "The System" isn't unionized, the "The System" doesn't vote or donate to the DNC:


"We need to address this decisively, quickly and hold accountable the people who did that, but, much more importantly … correct the system."

Hoyer is very, very angry about what VA civil servants did:

Hoyer said he spoke last week with embattled VA Secretary Eric Shinseki to urge him to respond the scandal "very vigorously, to express his anger and disappointment, and resolve to get to the bottom of this."

So angry, in fact, that his first, second, and only response is to run interference for the people responsible for this deadly scam.

Posted by: Ace at 06:08 PM




Comments

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1 First?

Posted by: kathysaysso at May 28, 2014 06:09 PM (jPT60)

2 Air!

Posted by: Holden at May 28, 2014 06:10 PM (QupBk)

3 I'm a Fed. Steny Hoyer does NOT represent me.

Posted by: pep at May 28, 2014 06:10 PM (4nR9/)

4 Respond vigorously.

Is that like giving your dick an extra shake at the urinal?

Posted by: kathysaysso at May 28, 2014 06:11 PM (jPT60)

5 I too am seeing red over this.

Posted by: toby928(C) at May 28, 2014 06:11 PM (QupBk)

6 Local. Story

Posted by: MSM at May 28, 2014 06:11 PM (gOoFi)

7 Can't a brother get a link?

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 28, 2014 06:11 PM (5UteM)

8 You've got red on you

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 28, 2014 06:11 PM (TIIx5)

9 So much linkage!

Posted by: Grover's at May 28, 2014 06:12 PM (9aKQB)

10 I dream of the day when a Republican goes on the tube and hits this SOB right where he lives, calling him the Congressman for government employees over veterans. He obviously doesn't give a shit that Bets are dying all over America, only that no one gets fired for this scandal.

Posted by: Ron Burgundy at May 28, 2014 06:12 PM (jqyOS)

11 Look! The fabled Red Diamond!

Posted by: toby928(C) at May 28, 2014 06:12 PM (QupBk)

12 Steny Hoyer is a loathsome little insect. That said, compared to Nancy Pelosi, he's Abraham Lincoln.

Posted by: pep at May 28, 2014 06:12 PM (4nR9/)

13 Harrumph!

Posted by: Steny Whoyer at May 28, 2014 06:12 PM (GsLcc)

14 Sounds like a lawsuit from Gloria AllahRed is forthcoming.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 28, 2014 06:13 PM (TIIx5)

15 The Commiecrats in congress are scared shitless and they are pulling out all the stops. With this ridiculous lying shit they are playing to their bottom base. Those are the dumbest voting animals of the face of the earth. They will vote for Democrats and believe every they they say as long as they get their free shit.



Nobody else believes any of this shit and that goes for the MFM too. They may go along with it but they don't believe it.

Posted by: Vic at May 28, 2014 06:13 PM (T2V/1)

16 because They Care!

Posted by: willow at May 28, 2014 06:13 PM (nqBYe)

17 "The fabled Red Diamond!"


Hey now, not everyday you get to see one of those.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 28, 2014 06:13 PM (gOoFi)

18 What does one expect in a world where the frigging kardashians are referred to as "the most remarkable people of our time" and half the country agrees.

If you are a worker bee, you are toast.

Posted by: Never at May 28, 2014 06:13 PM (hRV3r)

19 My compliments to Steny Hoyer, for saying the words that so desperately needed to be said in support of our hard-working Veterans hospital administrators!

Posted by: Chris Van Hollen at May 28, 2014 06:14 PM (jqyOS)

20 "What allah you gonna do 'bout it?

Posted by: Steny Whorer at May 28, 2014 06:14 PM (gOoFi)

21 because they care about their own skin, their job, their voting themselves in more dough, Their power.

but we can't fire them for bad service and obviously the deaths in AZ or elsewhere.


Because They Care!

about themselves.

Posted by: willow at May 28, 2014 06:14 PM (nqBYe)

22 Take a look at the lead article at Politico. Some Dems are starting to hit the panic button and calling for Shinseki to resign.

Interestingly, they all seem to be Dems locked in tight re-election fights not in VA.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 28, 2014 06:15 PM (g1DWB)

23 If you are a worker bee, you are toast.

Mixed metaphor alert! Apropos nonetheless.

Posted by: pep at May 28, 2014 06:15 PM (4nR9/)

24 Red words are falling down

Red words

Posted by: naturalfake at May 28, 2014 06:15 PM (0cMkb)

25 Interestingly, they all seem to be Dems locked in tight re-election fights not in VA.

Sooooo, Eric Cantor?

Posted by: pep at May 28, 2014 06:15 PM (4nR9/)

26 Cherry Red Allah

Posted by: naturalfake at May 28, 2014 06:16 PM (0cMkb)

27 "Mixed metaphor alert!"


"Six in one hand, water under the bridge" I always say.

Posted by: Ricardo Kill at May 28, 2014 06:16 PM (gOoFi)

28 >>Sooooo, Eric Cantor?

Nah, he's in VA.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 28, 2014 06:16 PM (g1DWB)

29 the scuzziest part of all is they did this to get bonuses.

I feel we're all in the best and most compassionate of hands.

Posted by: willow at May 28, 2014 06:16 PM (nqBYe)

30
25
Interestingly, they all seem to be Dems locked in tight re-election fights not in VA.

Sooooo, Eric Cantor?


Posted by: pep



Damn, that was clever, except for the NOT in VA part.

Posted by: pep at May 28, 2014 06:16 PM (4nR9/)

31 I was sitting next to Steny on a flight a few months ago. His shoes were perfect. ...Werewolves of London.

Posted by: Havedash at May 28, 2014 06:16 PM (G1XMn)

32 I want to express my deep appreciation to the estimable Steny Hoyer for talking once again right out of his ass! It really sounded good too.

Posted by: Vice-President (in waiting) Marty Malloy at May 28, 2014 06:16 PM (jqyOS)

33 Barrel we must...we must....and we will much....about....that....be committed.

Posted by: Al Sharpton at May 28, 2014 06:17 PM (5UteM)

34 I want to express my deep appreciation to the estimable Steny Hoyer for
talking once again right out of his ass! It really sounded good too.


pfffft

Posted by: Ace Ventura at May 28, 2014 06:17 PM (4nR9/)

35 Why didn't you come to me like a man and tell me nood?

I've been willow'd!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 28, 2014 06:18 PM (oFCZn)

36 Apparently SOP is who gives a fuck if veterans die or suffer under the care of the government. As long as civil servants don't suffer.

The democrat response to this has me absolutely seething, and I don't even know a vet who's had to deal with the VA. It's an abomination how we're treating vets, and for the dems to scream that the GOP is politicizing this? In-fucking-credible.

This is socialized medicine, people. (Don't take my word, ask Ezzie Klein!) This is the end-game the dems have been heading us toward with their "affordable" care act. And the VA story breaking now, just as it's becoming clear obamacare doesn't and can't work? It's the worst thing that could happen to the dems and their agenda.

Posted by: elaine at May 28, 2014 06:18 PM (YNYXJ)

37 We must avoid a rush to judgment here.

Posted by: Steny Whoyer at May 28, 2014 06:18 PM (GsLcc)

38 These motherfucking cocksuckers are gonna get away with it AGAIN. Are these shitstains actually truly untouchable? Are we really done?

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at May 28, 2014 06:18 PM (jOumW)

39 For some reason, Hoyer's looks/demeanor reminds me of John Kerry. Though he's not a horse with bad chin implants, there's still something Kerry-ish about him.

Posted by: kathysaysso at May 28, 2014 06:19 PM (jPT60)

40 The Democrat Party is built on a lack of accountability.

Posted by: --- at May 28, 2014 06:19 PM (MMC8r)

41 The nomenklatura must be protected.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 28, 2014 06:19 PM (GsLcc)

42 "Are these shitstains actually truly untouchable?"


Kinda getting that way isn't it.

Posted by: Elliott Ness at May 28, 2014 06:20 PM (gOoFi)

43 Run away, run away!

Posted by: Republicans at May 28, 2014 06:20 PM (QupBk)

44 Though he's not a horse with bad chin implants, there's still something Kerry-ish about him.

Look to the other end.

Posted by: pep at May 28, 2014 06:20 PM (4nR9/)

45 GOP: This is yet another sign we need complete amnesty!

Posted by: nnptcgrad at May 28, 2014 06:20 PM (Opyrm)

46 Lets put all congress critters into the VA system instead of their current healthcare options with anonymous ID cards (no special VIP status)

Posted by: PaleRider at May 28, 2014 06:20 PM (dkExz)

47 Dear Steny Hoyer and Democrats:

Fuck you, you fucking fucks.

Posted by: Obama, King of the Orators and Best Speechificator Ever at May 28, 2014 06:20 PM (GrtrJ)

48 They pulled this same line defending Lois Lerner.

She's the victim here - the poor defenseless "public servant" who's being viciously attacked.

These fascists aren't even trying to hide it anymore.

Posted by: gwelf at May 28, 2014 06:21 PM (nyxv/)

49 "Arrest that rapist!"

"No."

"Why not?"

"Because arresting him would create unnecessary paperwork for bureaucrats."

Posted by: zombie at May 28, 2014 06:21 PM (mizYg)

50 Not. The. Hill.

Posted by: Bitch McConnell at May 28, 2014 06:21 PM (gOoFi)

51 Would this be a good time to bring up Comprehensive Immigration Reform?

Posted by: John Boehner at May 28, 2014 06:21 PM (GsLcc)

52 This is the standard line about every single scandal of the Obama administration-that Republicans are 'politicizing" it. Not that timid Republicans are doing very much, but the best response (for Democrats) is not to say anything at all. Nothing. Zilch, Nada

Sorry, Steny-What you permit you promote.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 28, 2014 06:21 PM (XyM/Y)

53 hmmm, I spotted the fatal flaw in this plan of correction:

(The IG notes at one point that the DOJ may eventually be involved here in a civil or criminal manner.)

This usually means some reporters get jailed.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 28, 2014 06:21 PM (wNF3N)

54 He says that the GOP is "politicizing" the VA scandal, apparently by...

Hoyer is another shithead that should be kicked out of DC on his ear.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at May 28, 2014 06:21 PM (vd7A8)

55 45
GOP: This is yet another sign we need complete amnesty!

Posted by: nnptcgrad


To which I am completely opposed. Oh, wait, no I'm not. I'm for it. Unless you want me to be against it.

Posted by: Eric Cantor at May 28, 2014 06:21 PM (4nR9/)

56 Democrats, doing the jobs that humans won't do.

Posted by: toby928(C) at May 28, 2014 06:22 PM (QupBk)

57 I'm too ascared to say nuthin'.

Posted by: Speaker of the House John Boehner at May 28, 2014 06:22 PM (0cMkb)

58 the DOJ may eventually be involved here in a civil or criminal manner

Round up the whistleblowers

Posted by: toby928(C) at May 28, 2014 06:22 PM (QupBk)

59 The House's No. 2 Democrat accused Republicans of exploiting the scandal that has enveloped the Veterans Affairs Department for political gain and said he is worried that civil servants could be swept up unfairly in a witch hunt.

I know my client murdered his parents, your honor, but take pity on him-- he's an orphan!

Posted by: --- at May 28, 2014 06:22 PM (MMC8r)

60 the VA is run by staffed with, assholes, with a few good people mixed in, mostly by accident.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 28, 2014 06:23 PM (q+fqH)

61 Bring back the spoils system for the good of the country.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at May 28, 2014 06:23 PM (TC6VK)

62 I wish the military would go on strike to protest the VA's disregard for the lives of veterans.

Posted by: kathysaysso at May 28, 2014 06:24 PM (jPT60)

63 "Round up the whistleblowers"


Fuckers need to keep their mouth shut if they know what's good for 'em.

Posted by: Eric "Dick" Holder at May 28, 2014 06:25 PM (gOoFi)

64 This is me expressing my anger.

*wags finger*

You've been warned.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 28, 2014 06:26 PM (oFCZn)

65 Ah, very angry:

Hoyer urged Shinseki "very vigorously, to express his anger and disappointment, and resolve to get to the bottom of this."

I'm getting pretty sick of officials who think we should care how they FEEL about the situations they've tolerated or enabled.

Jon Steward had a good jab about how Shinseki's "mad as hell" face resembled his "we're out of orange juice" face. Cute. Then Shinseki's defenders tell us no, he's a controlled person but he really is very angry. Very, very angry. Just as the president tells us he is.

I don't give a shit. What are they going to do?

Posted by: JPS at May 28, 2014 06:26 PM (9ziuC)

66 What are the chances his mother christened him Stinky and he changed it to Steny when he went into politics?

Posted by: S. Muldoon at May 28, 2014 06:27 PM (NeFrd)

67 Don't let the fact that I'm on Hole 7 lead you to think that I'm not mad about the VA.

Posted by: Barry O. at May 28, 2014 06:28 PM (gOoFi)

68 If only there was a group or "party", if you will, that might use this to point out the corruption in government enterprises.

Posted by: toby928(C) at May 28, 2014 06:28 PM (QupBk)

69 How many scandals has this administration had so far? And yet, to date, the only people who've been fired have been the whistle blowers.

Posted by: junior at May 28, 2014 06:28 PM (SKCnZ)

70 Hoyer is a union-fondling piece of shit very much in the mold of his colleague Jim Moran...just a slightly smaller turd, and minus the child- and wife-beating.

Posted by: Stu-22 at May 28, 2014 06:28 PM (KbrNh)

71 What are the chances his mother christened him Stinky and he changed it to Steny when he went into politics?

Posted by: S. Muldoon at May 28, 2014 06:27 PM (NeFrd)



Uh........none.

Posted by: Stinky Steny Hoyer at May 28, 2014 06:29 PM (0cMkb)

72 I already talked about how my grandfather died in a VA nursing center due to lack of care, but I just remembered a very concrete example of the waiting times bullshit that happened there.

When he was transferred from his rehab hospital to the VA center, the VA center told us that he would have a special wheel chair waiting that would allow him to be upright for several hours a day and move throughout the facility. Note, this wasn't just about recreation, but also incredibly important for his treatment plan because it enabled him to be upright and to avoid asphyxiation pneumonia (which is what eventually killed him) .

He got there. No wheel chair. We threw a fit and they assured us that it would be ordered that day. A week went by. No wheel chair. A month went by. No wheel chair. We pushed again. "Oh, the order must have gotten lost. We'll put it in again. ASAP. It
will be here by tomorrow".

No wheel chair. It took us 3 damn months for them to finally get the wheel chair. 3 months of muscle atrophy and loss of mental function. They finally got the wheel chair, and then began their next round of excuses as to why they could leave him to rot in his bed all day instead of use it.

Don't even begin to tell me that those nurses/doctors/therapists cared even the tiniest amount about my grandfather. They didn't. There was precisely one person at that center who gave the slightest fuck. A CNA. That's it.

Posted by: Lauren at May 28, 2014 06:29 PM (ejehg)

73 If this isn't The Hill, WHAT IS?

Hairy Reed standing on kittens ass fucking a kinder gardener while sucking Obama's dick on the front lawn of the White House?

Does it have to go Full Retard before America turns off Welfare Tonight, BETV and Univision and gives a shit?

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at May 28, 2014 06:31 PM (jOumW)

74 thing is, your garden variety citizen doesn't give 2 shits about veterans.

They just don't care.

You only go to a VA hospital to die. You'll never see me walk into one. Would you trust a postal worker for anything? No. Because they're union and therefore worthless (I'm sure there's some decent folks, but it sure isn't the norm).

no thanks. Keep your death buildings.

Posted by: tangonine at May 28, 2014 06:31 PM (x3YFz)

75 Speaking of Cantor, Mark Levin said last night that Eric has Gutierrez going to campaign for his primary candidate. All to deceive primary voters into thinking Cantor is against amnesty.


These leadership guys suck! I had Levin on last listening live from his website. I kept losing connection. I just heard this now.

Hoyer is a lying POS!

Posted by: Carol at May 28, 2014 06:32 PM (gjOCp)

76 "Our civil service system is designed not to be a system where people
serve at the will of those who win elections. It's a professional civil
service [that is] protected."

A genuinely professional civil service would refrain from electioneering under color of authority. In fact, it's federal law that they must thus refrain. Hatch Act.

Nevertheless, the civil service all through the federal government, during the Obama administration, have become openly and vocally partisan in their politics and quite forceful in their repeated violations of the Hatch Act. While on public premises, the public time and the public dime.

So, no, they aren't professionals any longer, they have voluntarily shed that mantle, and don't deserve to be insulated from scrutiny on that basis.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 28, 2014 06:32 PM (noWW6)

77 What's all this I hear about Civil Serpents and the Veterinarians Menstruation? Why of course snakes should be polite to animal doctors at "that" time of the month....


...what's that you say? Civil Servants? Veterans?...



...Never Mind.

Posted by: Seamus Litella at May 28, 2014 06:33 PM (NeFrd)

78 Since the VA is primarily a jobs program, shouldn't they be using spoons?

Posted by: Milton Friedman at May 28, 2014 06:33 PM (wNF3N)

79 S. Muldoon, #66:

"What are the chances his mother christened him Stinky and he changed it to Steny when he went into politics?"

A little off-topic, but you reminded me of a joke by Bill Buckley:

Substitute teacher asks each student to tell her his name. As she goes around the room, one boy says, brightly, "Stinky!"

"OK, very funny. Really, what's your name?"

"It's Stinky."

"Come on. If you don't tell me your real name you're going to see the principal."

"Ma'am, it really is Stinky."

She jerks a thumb toward the door. As the boy walks out he claps another boy on the shoulder.

"Better come too, Shithead. You don't stand a chance."

Posted by: JPS at May 28, 2014 06:33 PM (9ziuC)

80 I thought Steny (and Harry R.) proved himself to be a senile old fucking bastard years ago.

Before you know it, they'll be railing against the internet again, because it provides "those damn meddlesome kids" an unchecked means of witnessing how fucking corrupt all of these cocksuckers really are.

Posted by: Fritz at May 28, 2014 06:33 PM (3wLHY)

81 I can always count on Steny for a good 'harrumph'!

Posted by: William J. LePetomaine, Gov. at May 28, 2014 06:35 PM (++HCY)

82 75
Speaking of Cantor, Mark Levin said last night that Eric has Gutierrez
going to campaign for his primary candidate. All to deceive primary
voters into thinking Cantor is against amnesty.


Gutierrez showed up at Cantor's home to protest, because Cantor's such a big impediment to amnesty, don't you know. Please, Brer Fox, don't throw me in that briar patch!

Posted by: pep at May 28, 2014 06:35 PM (4nR9/)

83 Off, you asshole oh-so-face-punchable sock.

Posted by: DangerGirl, who is tired at May 28, 2014 06:35 PM (GrtrJ)

84 I don't give a shit. What are they going to do?

Posted by: JPS


Fire Shinseki, praise Oblamo, and then chide the GOP for 'playing ahll dah pahlaticks!'

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 28, 2014 06:35 PM (nZiT2)

85 >>You only go to a VA hospital to die. You'll never see me walk into one. Would you trust a postal worker for anything? No. Because they're union and therefore worthless (I'm sure there's some decent folks, but it sure isn't the norm).

I got some bad news for you. Many if not most nurses in all hospitals are in unions. And the nurses unions have been huge backers of single payer.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 28, 2014 06:36 PM (g1DWB)

86 "he wants to protect his real constituents, government workers."

No $hit, Sherlock. This is a Company town, after all.
There is a distinct fever running thru the Potawmak River lands - one of "I got mine, screw you" of the Federal workforce. It's going to crush the rest of the country...

Posted by: anon a mouse at May 28, 2014 06:36 PM (gXRIG)

87
So, no, they aren't professionals any longer, they have voluntarily shed that mantle, and don't deserve to be insulated from scrutiny on that basis.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 28, 2014 06:32 PM (noWW6)

It may be unfair of me. I try to judge on individual merit and not stereotype, but after banging my head against the wall of "civil servants" for a few decades I've become a bit jaded.

I view all govt employees (civilian) as pond scum. Again, certainly unfair to the good folks, but I just can't find a reason not to think of them as the lowest forms of life.

Posted by: tangonine at May 28, 2014 06:36 PM (x3YFz)

88 Toby928(C):

"If only there was a group or "party", if you will, that might use this to point out the corruption in government enterprises."

Yeah, but it would be unseemly for the Republicans to gain political advantage from the Democrats' fuckups. The worse the fuckup, the more unseemly. I think this is what Hoyer means by politicizing.

Posted by: JPS at May 28, 2014 06:36 PM (9ziuC)

89 "Speaking of Cantor, Mark Levin said last night that Eric has Gutierrez
going to campaign for his primary candidate. All to deceive primary
voters into thinking Cantor is against amnesty."

Yep. And Cantor's running a blitz of mailers and TV all about how he, Cantor, is the sole bulwark against "Obama and Reid's" amnesty attempts.

Sadly, a big chunk of Republican primary voters are probably dumb enough to fall for this nonsense.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 28, 2014 06:37 PM (noWW6)

90 It may be unfair of me. I try to judge on individual merit and not
stereotype, but after banging my head against the wall of "civil
servants" for a few decades I've become a bit jaded.



I view all govt employees (civilian) as pond scum. Again, certainly
unfair to the good folks, but I just can't find a reason not to think
of them as the lowest forms of life.


Understandable. Still unfair, though.

Posted by: pep at May 28, 2014 06:37 PM (4nR9/)

91 Gentlemen ,we've got to save our phony baloney jobs!

Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at May 28, 2014 06:37 PM (9+ccr)

92 Understandable. Still unfair, though.

Posted by: pep at May 28, 2014 06:37 PM (4nR9/)

It is but the bad/good ratio is (estimating) 50/1?

Posted by: tangonine at May 28, 2014 06:38 PM (x3YFz)

93 92
Understandable. Still unfair, though.



Posted by: pep at May 28, 2014 06:37 PM (4nR9/)



It is but the bad/good ratio is (estimating) 50/1?


RINO.

Posted by: pep at May 28, 2014 06:39 PM (4nR9/)

94 More like 80/20.

Posted by: anon a mouse at May 28, 2014 06:39 PM (gXRIG)

95
>>
I view all govt employees (civilian) as pond scum. Again, certainly unfair to the good folks, but I just can't find a reason not to think of them as the lowest forms of life.
.
.
.Painting with an extremely broad brush there. At least you are honest about letting your emotions rule against your better judgment though.

Posted by: Registered Voter at May 28, 2014 06:39 PM (RTLz9)

96 And Cantor's running a blitz of mailers and TV all about how he, Cantor, is the sole bulwark against "Obama and Reid's" amnesty attempts.

Of course, he's fully behind Boehner's.

Posted by: --- at May 28, 2014 06:40 PM (MMC8r)

97 Isn't phoney baloney sort of the whole raison d'etre of the USDA?

Posted by: S. Muldoon at May 28, 2014 06:40 PM (NeFrd)

98 Broad Brush?
Here's a charming anecdote: Big project that included spending time at Auto dealers in the DC area. Interesting gig, to be sure (auto sales), but with insane periods of boredom - during which I saw at several different dealerships a "guess the employer" game, in which one bets on the job held by the next "up" strolling across the lot - and the most interesting to me was that they could pick Feds at nearly 100%.
Care to guess as to the clues?

Posted by: anon a mouse at May 28, 2014 06:44 PM (gXRIG)

99 85 >>You only go to a VA hospital to die. You'll never see me walk into one. Would you trust a postal worker for anything? No. Because they're union and therefore worthless (I'm sure there's some decent folks, but it sure isn't the norm).

I got some bad news for you. Many if not most nurses in all hospitals are in unions. And the nurses unions have been huge backers of single payer.
***

And like most unions, there's a large disconnect between the union and the folks they profess to serve. I brought up 404Care with the nurses at my wife's last chemo visit and they were all about ten seconds away from hoisting a Gadsden Flag in the chemo suite before we finished the conversation. I've got nurses in my family and after decades of dealing with the Great Unwashed they're in zero hurry for socialized medicine. My sister-in-law works in Memphis as an RN and she's got more fucked up stories than my biker nephew.

Posted by: B at May 28, 2014 06:44 PM (6iEQd)

100 I'm so sick of these scumballs. I can't say what I'd really like to happen to them. Dirty pieces of shit.

Posted by: DangerGirl, who is tired at May 28, 2014 06:45 PM (GrtrJ)

101 .Painting with an extremely broad brush there. At least you are honest about letting your emotions rule against your better judgment though.

Posted by: Registered Voter at May 28, 2014 06:39 PM (RTLz9)

I tried to qualify it as best I could.

But, brother, ya walk into a post office (empty of customers), there's 3 people chatting behind the counter and they are visibly upset that you have the temerity to mail something and interrupt their chit-chat. Happens. Every. Time.

State reps and congressmen ignore your feedback (peasant!).

The DMV is like an isolation ward at the CDC.

Don't even get me started about federal employees with badges.

After a while, try as you might to give every single person the benefit of the doubt, it grinds you down.

Posted by: tangonine at May 28, 2014 06:45 PM (x3YFz)

102 @38: "These motherfucking cocksuckers are gonna get away with it AGAIN. Are
these shitstains actually truly untouchable? Are we really done?"

Want to solve the problem? You need only pledge your life, fortune, and sacred honor. Until people get mad enough to do that, there is no check whatsoever against the new nobility.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at May 28, 2014 06:45 PM (jnG1p)

103 Torquewrench,
Do you live in Cantor's district?

Posted by: Carol at May 28, 2014 06:46 PM (gjOCp)

104 Hey Hoyer, eat a bag of cocks. They are veterans, you self important gas bag.

Posted by: dogfish at May 28, 2014 06:46 PM (1vYi0)

105 Fucking unions. Lots of blood on their hands, more than just with the VA. We see it in industry too. To be clear, when I say blood, I'm talking the blood of dead people. People that would still be among us today had it not been for unions protecting really poor employees.

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 28, 2014 06:47 PM (8FyP4)

106 Hey Hoyer, eat a bag of cocks. They are veterans, you self important gas bag.

Posted by: dogfish at May 28, 2014 06:46 PM (1vYi0)

He doesn't care.

However, 12 years of ditching mail-in votes is about to end. Troops are home now, fuckers.

Posted by: tangonine at May 28, 2014 06:47 PM (x3YFz)

107 (The IG notes at one point that the DOJ may eventually be involved here in a civil or criminal manner.)


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

*sucks in air*

AAAAAAHHHHHHAAAHHHHAAAAHHHAAA

Wow. My abs needed that work out. Thanks.

Posted by: alexthechick - Oh save us mighty SMOD at May 28, 2014 06:49 PM (dMSj2)

108 People that would still be among us today had it not been for unions protecting really poor employees.

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 28, 2014 06:47 PM (8FyP4)

How many times has this conversation taken place:

"Can't we fire his/her incompetent ass?"

/sigh "He/She's union. Would take 10 years."

Fucking unions.

Posted by: tangonine at May 28, 2014 06:49 PM (x3YFz)

109 However, 12 years of ditching mail-in votes is about to end. Troops are home now, fuckers.
***

Fucking A.

Posted by: B at May 28, 2014 06:50 PM (6iEQd)

110 You know it's bad when a bunch of Dems start calling for Shinsekis' resignation.... Of course they are in tough races..

Posted by: Hello it's me Donna and I know nuthink! at May 28, 2014 06:50 PM (9+ccr)

111 I can't speak for elsewhere, but here in God's country, most union members that I know are pretty damned conservative. The problem is the leadership. All collectivism, all the time. Eight out of ten members of the leadership are bottom of the barrel types when it comes to doing work and the quality of their work. It's all about peer pressure to keep the membership in line.

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 28, 2014 06:53 PM (8FyP4)

112 Democrats know their constituents and they know that they can say whatever they want, and nobody will care. Voters will toe the party line and vote for whoever they are told to vote for.

Just like most republicans.

Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 28, 2014 06:53 PM (BZAd3)

113 All I know was that my father in law had colon cancer, was a WWII vet, used the VA, and was not treated for the condition. He died a few months after diagnosis.

May God rest his soul. He may not have been my favorite person in the world, but the famous 'empathy' that the Democrats continually stroke their private parts about in self-pleasuring does not seem to correspond to some groups.

Posted by: SE Pa Moron at May 28, 2014 06:56 PM (j1NwQ)

114 T9, I've only had the misfortune to have to load six body bags into the back of a truck after a disaster. All at the hands of a union protected incompetent who had no business working in the oil industry. It sickens me to this day.

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 28, 2014 06:56 PM (8FyP4)

115 Death panels getting bonuses for more death.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at May 28, 2014 06:57 PM (Fp7JI)

116 I saw Cantor's poster on another site. Only he is standing against TFG & Reid's Bill! Lying scum & I hope he loses primary!

Posted by: Carol at May 28, 2014 06:57 PM (gjOCp)

117
>>I tried to qualify it as best I could.

But, brother, ya walk into a post office (empty of customers), there's 3 people chatting behind the counter and they are visibly upset that you have the temerity to mail something and interrupt their chit-chat. Happens. Every. Time.

State reps and congressmen ignore your feedback (peasant!).

The DMV is like an isolation ward at the CDC.

Don't even get me started about federal employees with badges.

After a while, try as you might to give every single person the benefit of the doubt, it grinds you down.
.
.
.Move to Georgetown Kentucky, we did a year ago and we love it. We moved here from New England and it truly is a different world.

Been to the DMV four times and only had a line (two people in front of us) once. The walk to the building took longer than my wait. In and out, and the first time when we changed registrations the DMV called our old State for us while we were standing there to tell them what we needed and had them fax it while we waited. Best people in the world to deal with. Totally unlike what we left.

Go to the Post Office and they usually have two of the three counters manned. Again , in and out with minimal wait times.

Had a local Cop stop by our house when he saw us outwalking the dogs. He drove up and started talking to us about our dogs and asked to meet them. Stayed and chatted awhile while petting the dogs. Great guys and Gals in the Georgetown PD. We see them every weekend at breakfast at the restaurant along with the Fire Department people. We have not come across a single asshole in the year we have lived here.

It's all about perspective and where you are I think. A year ago I would have agreed with you 100%, not now. Night and Day.

Posted by: Registered Voter at May 28, 2014 07:00 PM (RTLz9)

118 As I've posted before, I am an employee at a VA Medical Center. Myself along with my co-workers want everyone involved in this to be fired, criminally punished, and to lose any benefits that they had coming to them.

The Democrats blocked a bill that would have made it easier to fire senior level executives - we know who their true allegiance is to and it isn't to our veterans.

Damn everyone to hell who had dirty hands and made us all look dirty in the process.


Posted by: Cheri at May 28, 2014 07:00 PM (W2Bpz)

119
Guess who has their own tv channel.

Not us.

Huffington Post.

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (Day -484) at May 28, 2014 07:00 PM (BtMVq)

120 C'mon. People die every day.

Posted by: Pol Pot at May 28, 2014 07:01 PM (lvrdZ)

121 Vets vote overwhelmingly for non-Democrats. Killing them off, destroying the military, and discouraging new enlistments is all to their favor.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at May 28, 2014 07:03 PM (jOumW)

122 Look there's no reason to jump all over me. All I'm saying is, there isn't any reason to hold anyone accountable when we can just throw some money at the problem and sweep it under the rug. Now is that so unreasonable?

Posted by: Steny Hoyer at May 28, 2014 07:03 PM (IV4od)

123 You gotta hand it to Democrats....they take care of their own. Unionists, illegals, teachers....you name it. They are loyal to their constituents.

Republicans on the other hand....they do the opposite. They love to tell their most loyal constituents to go fuck off. See McCain, John and Boehner, Jon as exhibits A and B.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at May 28, 2014 07:04 PM (0LHZx)

124 OG Celtic-American @ 73-
You, my friend are a poet of the greatest abilities. Moira Angle-O must be very jealous of you, where ever she went to.

Posted by: Erowmero at May 28, 2014 07:04 PM (go5uR)

125 Thanks for clarifying Steny. I'll see what I can do to move to your district in the Commonwealth of Maryland and support you.

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 28, 2014 07:05 PM (8FyP4)

126 Posted by: Registered Voter at May 28, 2014 07:00 PM (RTLz9)

________

Lemme guess...the employees at the DMV, Post Office and the PD are - how to put this delicately.... - not affirmative action employees?

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at May 28, 2014 07:06 PM (0LHZx)

127 >>I got some bad news for you. Many if not most nurses in all hospitals are in unions. And the nurses unions have been huge backers of single payer.
Posted by: JackStraw

Depends what part of the country. In my state there is no unionized hospitals AFAIK.

Posted by: Aviator at May 28, 2014 07:07 PM (3rrMW)

128 You know who else is really, really mad?

The millions of American citizens who were swept up unfairly in a witch hunt and lost their private health insurance to pay for everybody else.

Posted by: PJ at May 28, 2014 07:07 PM (ZWaLo)

129 Five inches of rain here in the last 48 hours with more to come. Wish it was hitting south and west Texas where the really need it.

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 28, 2014 07:08 PM (8FyP4)

130
Democrats and Republicans have lots in common. For instance, both parties hate the Republican's conservative base.

Also, both parties prefer to pander to the Democrats' base.

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (Day -484) at May 28, 2014 07:08 PM (BtMVq)

131 "Reward your friends, punish your enemies," right? Active duty and vets tend to vote in large majorities for R's. So demonrats have little care whether they suffer or die. Just a few less votes for the depraved, borderline insane opposition, anyway. And guv employees vote overwhelmingly dem.

Win-win from their POV, especially with the house media running 24/7 interference.

This is what it looks like when great experiments start to die. Rule of the anointed, by the anointed, and for the anointed. All the rest can go frank themselves.

Posted by: Tantrumblogo at May 28, 2014 07:08 PM (hKAaA)

132 As a quick aside, less than 25 percent stood for TFG when he was introduced.

Posted by: RWC at May 28, 2014 07:09 PM (hNvhZ)

133 "Hey, I like firing people."

Posted by: mitt romney at May 28, 2014 07:09 PM (WCnJW)

134 We need to bring back the stocks for things like this.

Absolutely. No. Excuse. For. This. Bullshit.

Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at May 28, 2014 07:09 PM (E6eh3)

135 126 Posted by: Registered Voter at May 28, 2014 07:00 PM (RTLz9)

___________

It's totally a case of where you are. Go to the downtown Chicago post office or DMV and you'll be lucky to get out within 3 hours and not be told to fuck off 10 times.

Go to a small town or a nice suburb and it's 180. But this goes for all things, not just govt services. Go to a McDonald's in downtown Chicago vs small town/suburb and it's a totally different experience.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at May 28, 2014 07:10 PM (0LHZx)

136 It's all about perspective and where you are I think. A year ago I would have agreed with you 100%, not now. Night and Day.

Posted by: Registered Voter at May 28, 2014 07:00 PM (RTLz9)

That's good, and I'm totally aware of the fact there's good folks out there. I just haven't met any of them.

Posted by: tangonine at May 28, 2014 07:11 PM (x3YFz)

137 Vets vote overwhelmingly for non-Democrats. Killing them off, destroying
the military, and discouraging new enlistments is all to their favor.


They want new enlistees to be "dreamers".

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 28, 2014 07:11 PM (RGBsB)

138 The only reason Hoyer would be worried about a bunch of crooked, cheating "executives" getting grilled, exposed and punished is that he and the other Democrats are afraid the "executives" will flip on the politicos, Obama appointees and hacks who wanted falsified data to keep the vets in line, the public hoodwinked, and the union money rolling in as political donations. This is butt covering 101.

Posted by: Lester at May 28, 2014 07:12 PM (2UPXV)

139 Go to a small town or a nice suburb and it's 180. But this goes for all things, not just govt services. Go to a McDonald's in downtown Chicago vs small town/suburb and it's a totally different experience.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at May 28, 2014 07:10 PM (0LHZx)


That's probably right.

One of the DMV offices here in town has a drive through. You literally get your plates and tags and registration handed out a window to you while you sit in your car. It was fast too even on a day when they were busy.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 28, 2014 07:12 PM (oFCZn)

140 ABOVE ALL ELSE

The "Public Sector" is a Racket for the enrichment of Insiders, Cronies, Bureaucrats and Interest Groups.

-Period.

Posted by: Slapweasel at May 28, 2014 07:13 PM (lq3Ak)

141 >>Depends what part of the country. In my state there is no unionized hospitals AFAIK.

Maybe. But the SEIU and National Nurses United claim to have hundreds of thousands of members between them.

I'm sure you're right but there are a shitload of them.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 28, 2014 07:13 PM (g1DWB)

142 "It's the worst thing that could happen to the dems and their agenda."

The worst thing that could happen to Dems is if the media abandons them and that is never going to happen.


I dream of a time when accused of exploiting a Dem scandal Republicans would come out and say "damn right we are politicising this since Dems refuse to do the right thing". Challenge each and every such accusation with examples of positive changes when something wrong had been politicised, even if on the GOP side.

Posted by: Decaf at May 28, 2014 07:13 PM (uQFoN)

143 I have seen the future of government-managed health care......the VA is the closest thing to NHS we have here. Behold!

Posted by: goatexchange at May 28, 2014 07:13 PM (sYUHT)

144 As a quick aside, less than 25 percent stood for TFG when he was introduced.

Posted by: RWC at May 28, 2014 07:09 PM (hNvhZ)

We were in CA during the 2004 race. Teh Won gave the keynote speech, and I yelled for the missus to come watch.

I was thinking, (no kidding) "oh, fuck. me."

Posted by: tangonine at May 28, 2014 07:13 PM (x3YFz)

145 It's totally a case of where you are.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Hell, it varies depending where you are in my county. My local post office is outstanding and the DMV is pretty good. Go to Galveston in the south end of the county and, yeah, it fits the bad stereotypes.

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 28, 2014 07:14 PM (8FyP4)

146 Democrats know their constituents and they know that they can say whatever they want, and nobody will care. Voters will toe the party line and vote for whoever they are told to vote for. Just like most republicans.
Posted by: LoneStarHeeb at May 28, 2014 06:53 PM (BZAd3)

'Just like most Republicans'? Really? That simply isn't true. For one thing, the GOP conservative base and the GOP Establishment that currently comprises the Republican Party's leadership caste are constantly at odds, which is not the case with the Democratic Party, where its leadership and liberal base are usually perfectly simpatico. Further, Republican incumbents are far more likely to face primary challenges than their Democratic counterparts. (I voted against Lugar and for Mourdoch in the Indiana senatorial primary, for example.) As a general rule, Democratic Party incumbents don't need toworry about primary challenges unless they're of the moderate, Blue Dog type, which are now largely extinct.

Lastly, McCain and Romney won their respective primary fights not because they are conservatives (they aren't) but because both convinced Republican voters they had the best chance against Obama. McCain's case is arguable. There were certainly GOP candidates who could've done equally badly; a few could've done better (at least in my view). Romney, however, was the best, most accomplishedcandidate we hadin 2012, in a very weak field.

So no, that doesn't sound like lockstep obedience to me.

Posted by: troyriser at May 28, 2014 07:14 PM (V9ol4)

147 Conservatives, Republicans, Libertarians, whatever you call yourself, where we all blew it in was ceding control of the Colleges, Universities and Civil Service to the enemy: i.e. the liberals and democrats.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 28, 2014 07:15 PM (nzKvP)

148 Thanks, RWC.
I'm glad only 25% stood up for SCOAMF. What will news clips show? Phony standing ovation?

Posted by: Carol at May 28, 2014 07:15 PM (gjOCp)

149 The Democrats blocked a bill that would have made it easier to fire senior level executives - we know who their true allegiance is to and it isn't to our veterans.
+++++++++++++

They've also repeatedly blocked a Republican bill that would stop the IRS from paying out billions of dollars every year in phony "tax credits" (i.e. disguised welfare) payments to illegal aliens.

Something to keep in mind when Democrat pimps complain that there isn't enough money to provide our veterans with the health care we promised them.

Posted by: Trivial Pursuer at May 28, 2014 07:15 PM (E6eh3)

150 ' "It's a professional civil service [that is] protected." '

Yup, protected from being held accountable for doing a shitty job. Just like the teachers' unions protect substandard and lazy teachers from being fired. See? The system works.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 28, 2014 07:16 PM (egFT8)

151 When the Horde patches arrive, I'll have to visit the post office to get the weight on the shipping for various orders.

I'd rather have a root canal with no novacane.

Posted by: tangonine at May 28, 2014 07:17 PM (x3YFz)

152 I was thinking, (no kidding) "oh, fuck. me."
Posted by: tangonine
+++++++++++++++++++++++++

And fuck you he did...

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 28, 2014 07:17 PM (8FyP4)

153 >>Maybe. But the SEIU and National Nurses United claim to have hundreds of thousands of members between them.

I'm sure you're right but there are a shitload of them.
Posted by: JackStraw


Oh, there are. Where I used to live the hospitals were unionized and it was a pain in the ass to deal with some of the nursing staff. A fair number belonged to the union because they had to or they felt it kept them from being screwed on shift assignments and such. The most rabid union members though were invariably the least competent and most lazy staff in the hospital.

Posted by: Aviator at May 28, 2014 07:17 PM (3rrMW)

154
Steny is angry. Angry Steny.

Posted by: Angry Obama at May 28, 2014 07:18 PM (wAQA5)

155 Lastly, McCain and Romney won their respective primary fights not because they are conservatives (they aren't) but because both convinced Republican voters they had the best chance against Obama.
Posted by: troyriser at May 28, 2014 07:14 PM (V9ol4)

________

Romney, yes. He did win mainly because he was the most electable. And he was. Anyone else would have lost by a lot more. He at least somewhat made it a competitive race.

McCain...I don't think he was ever the mos "electable". He won because it was a 3 man race (him, Romney and Huckabee) and he ended up winning 40-30-30. Huckabee took the so-con vote and McCain/Romney split the rest of the vote.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at May 28, 2014 07:18 PM (0LHZx)

156 There is no modern reason for unions to exist.

They exist solely to extort money from members which then gets funneled into Democrat campaign coffers.

Posted by: tangonine at May 28, 2014 07:19 PM (x3YFz)

157
Between this, the non-prosecution of assholes like Lois Lerner and the new "we can't endanger fed workers' bonuses by honest evaluations" policy, I'm thinking this is the Donks telling the bureaucracy to metaphorically (and sometimes literally) lock and load on the rest of us unpeople in Jesusland.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 28, 2014 07:19 PM (TIIx5)

158 "As a quick aside, less than 25 percent stood for TFG when he was introduced."

Wait, are you referring to the West Point address?

I know a guy who was at USMA when Clinton showed up there, and the corps of cadets were instructed in the strongest possible terms that they were to show respect and deference regardless of how they personally felt about Clinton. And the cadets did so.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 28, 2014 07:19 PM (noWW6)

159 We were in CA during the 2004 race. Teh Won gave the keynote speech, and I yelled for the missus to come watch.

I was thinking, (no kidding) "oh, fuck. me."
Posted by: tangonine at May 28, 2014 07:13 PM (x3YFz)


YOU HAD ONE JOB!!

Posted by: RWC at May 28, 2014 07:19 PM (hNvhZ)

160 157
Between this, the non-prosecution of assholes like Lois Lerner and the new "we can't endanger fed workers' bonuses by honest evaluations" policy, I'm thinking this is the Donks telling the bureaucracy to metaphorically (and sometimes literally) lock and load on the rest of us unpeople in Jesusland.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 28, 2014 07:19 PM (TIIx5)

___________

They know how to play politics. The GOP doesn't. Ever.

Posted by: Mr. Moo Moo at May 28, 2014 07:20 PM (0LHZx)

161 Face slap, same as it ever was, same as it ever was..........

Ah the Talking Heads and Libtards everywhere

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 28, 2014 07:20 PM (HVff2)

162 132 As a quick aside, less than 25 percent stood for TFG when he was introduced.
Posted by: RWC at May 28, 2014 07:09 PM (hNvhZ)


At the West Point Straw Festival?

Good.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at May 28, 2014 07:20 PM (lvrdZ)

163 "They've also repeatedly blocked a Republican bill that would stop the IRS from paying out billions of dollars every year in phony "tax credits" (i.e. disguised welfare) payments to illegal aliens.

Something to keep in mind when Democrat pimps complain that there isn't enough money to provide our veterans with the health care we promised them."

You would think that would be the easiest thing to do but no, we mustn't offend the illegals, or something.

Posted by: Decaf at May 28, 2014 07:20 PM (uQFoN)

164 As long as we are letting blue and purple states decide our candidates, we'll never know who the most electable Republican is.

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 28, 2014 07:20 PM (8FyP4)

165 164 As long as we are letting blue and purple states decide our candidates, we'll never know who the most electable Republican is.

+100

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at May 28, 2014 07:22 PM (jOumW)

166 "Torquewrench, Do you live in Cantor's district?"

Me? No. Someplace far worse. Commiefornia.

But in general I am not much impressed with GOP primary voters. The low information bloc is not confined to the Democratic Party.

Speaking of GOP primary voters, I did laugh when it was announced that due to McConnell winning his primary against Bevin, the general election race against Alison Grimes will now be "The Tortoise And The Hair".

Posted by: torquewrench at May 28, 2014 07:22 PM (noWW6)

167 This is where the studio audience hoots out, "Ooooooooo!":

@stevebruskCNN
WH official tells @jimacostacnn Sec. Shinseki has been "on probation" since president's comments last week, and he remains on "thin ice"

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 28, 2014 07:23 PM (nZiT2)

168 Was Steny in the Delta house in college?

His defense of the VA sure sounds like the "Otter Defense".

http://tinyurl.com/kh2xsye

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, formerly MrCaniac at May 28, 2014 07:24 PM (HxSXm)

169 It's DOUBLE SEKRET PROBATION!!

Posted by: Barry Obama at May 28, 2014 07:24 PM (oFCZn)

170 My best friend is union.

If his boss calls him on off hours, and the call lasts more than x minutes, he can charge that time as a full hour of OT (paid by you and me; the taxpayers).

Now I love him. And he reads this blog, but that's some bullshit right there.

know how many off-hours calls I've gotten over the last 28 years? How many extra hours I've put in with no increase in pay?

One stretch was 18 hours a day, 7 days a week, for 6 months. Not exaggerating except every now and then it might have been 16 hours a day. It was just the nature of the beast.

Union? they want extra compensation for moving their eyeballs from left to right.

Posted by: tangonine at May 28, 2014 07:24 PM (x3YFz)

171 Torquewrench,
I live in MA, smaller equivalent as CA.

Posted by: Carol at May 28, 2014 07:24 PM (gjOCp)

172 167 This is where the studio audience hoots out, "Ooooooooo!":

@stevebruskCNN
WH official tells @jimacostacnn Sec. Shinseki has been "on probation" since president's comments last week, and he remains on "thin ice"

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 28, 2014 07:23 PM (nZiT2)

Cool, double fucking secret probation. I've been there, it's a hoot

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 28, 2014 07:24 PM (HVff2)

173
I hesitate to comment until I hear what Bob Beckel has to say.

Posted by: wth at May 28, 2014 07:25 PM (wAQA5)

174 Cool, double fucking secret probation. I've been there, it's a hoot

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 28, 2014 07:24 PM (HVff2)

Translation: "paid vacation"

Posted by: tangonine at May 28, 2014 07:26 PM (x3YFz)

175
>>It's totally a case of where you are. Go to the downtown Chicago post office or DMV and you'll be lucky to get out within 3 hours and not be told to fuck off 10 times.

Go to a small town or a nice suburb and it's 180. But this goes for all things, not just govt services. Go to a McDonald's in downtown Chicago vs small town/suburb and it's a totally different experience.
.
.
.Been there and did that, that a large part of why we voted with our feet and moved. We lived in New England not by choice but by jobs and as soon as an opportunity came we took it and left. Most of New England is dying and on life support and they know it but ignore it.

Took me 4 days to find a U-Haul trailer to move some of our stuff South that the Movers wouldn't take and I had to pay a $65 South Bound Premium and was told I could only keep the trailer three days instead of the usual 4 days. All of this in addition to the regular fee of $495. They payTruck Driversto go South to round up U haul stuff to bring back to New England because nothing is coming back that way.

Posted by: Registered Voter at May 28, 2014 07:26 PM (RTLz9)

176 Melissa Hairbrain-Perry wants to end the NBA because it's slavery?

Oh, PLEASE let me be in the room when she runs that by the players.

Tell them she's freeing them from making $25m on average in their careers and someone's gonna choke a bitch.

Posted by: --- at May 28, 2014 07:27 PM (MMC8r)

177 >I hesitate to comment until I hear what Bob Beckel has to say.
Posted by: wth

You'll have to wait until the dinner buffet closes.

Posted by: Aviator at May 28, 2014 07:27 PM (3rrMW)

178 at least they admit it. It's government for the connected at the expense of everyone else.

Posted by: joeindc44 at May 28, 2014 07:27 PM (g4of5)

179 174 Cool, double fucking secret probation. I've been there, it's a hoot

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 28, 2014 07:24 PM (HVff2)

Translation: "paid vacation"
Posted by: tangonine at May 28, 2014 07:26 PM (x3YFz)

Yes, that's about it. Much like Lois Learner.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 28, 2014 07:27 PM (HVff2)

180 147 Conservatives, Republicans, Libertarians, whatever you call yourself, where we all blew it in was ceding control of the Colleges, Universities and Civil Service to the enemy: i.e. the liberals and democrats.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 28, 2014 07:15 PM (nzKvP


Yep and RE: Civil Service. Once they were unionized, that was it.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at May 28, 2014 07:28 PM (lvrdZ)

181 You'll have to wait until the dinner buffet closes.
Posted by: Aviator
+++++++++++++++++++++++

You mean bar.

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 28, 2014 07:28 PM (8FyP4)

182 I hesitate to comment until I hear what Bob Beckel has to say.

Posted by: wth


Press the bases of both of your palms together, place them over your lips. Now blow.

Live or Memorex. You decide.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 28, 2014 07:29 PM (nZiT2)

183 I was just reading the TFG West Point speech thread while listening to Mark Levin talking about the speech.

That fucker is going to get us nuked before he's through.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2014 07:29 PM (sdi6R)

184 Bob Beckel drinks liquid cheese.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 28, 2014 07:30 PM (oFCZn)

185 On the other hand... my experience as a patient with the VA here in Milwaukee, WI. has been favorable overall. I retired from the Army in 1997 and have used the Milwaukee VAMC for almost all of my medical needs, and there has been a lot. My trip down the steep slope that is alcoholism was accompanied by many ailments, including at least 12 episodes of acute pancreatitis. The VA treated me through all that and then through a rehab program where I found AA and the solution to that problem. I have a kidney disease and they have been treating me for that and preparing me for kidney failure by surgery for a fistula and getting on a transplant waiting list, and now that my kidneys have failed, dialysis.
I worked there for four years as well, in the sterile processing department, this was after my time as a civilian Army employee at the MEPS. From that perspective I admit that the VA is as fucked up as any government agency. It is over-filled with middle managers, has an abundance of affirmative action employees (but remember that military service qualifies for preferential consideration in all governmental agencies), and the bullshit indoctrination that goes with government service. There are too many incompetents that can't be gotten rid of and processes that defy logical explanation. So I no longer work there but remain a patient.

Posted by: sawhorse at May 28, 2014 07:30 PM (e1h7z)

186 184 Bob Beckel drinks liquid cheese.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 28, 2014 07:30 PM (oFCZn)

Oh Dack that is just so wrong

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 28, 2014 07:31 PM (HVff2)

187 Regardless of anything else one has to give Ayn Rand props for this insight into progressive thinking:


"If a ray of light falls into a pigsty, it is the ray that shows us the muck and it is the ray that is offensive."


Posted by: An Observation at May 28, 2014 07:32 PM (ylhEn)

188 Wasn't it JFK that allowed Civil Service to have union?

Posted by: Carol at May 28, 2014 07:32 PM (gjOCp)

189 tangonine @ 144-
In 2004, when I told Mrs. E, that tfg was the next dem pResnit, she said 'not that skinny little bastard'.

Posted by: Erowmero at May 28, 2014 07:32 PM (go5uR)

190 I have to ask the question, is anyone actually surprised by any of this? I suppose I just thought everyone knew that the VA sucked and was to be avoided if at all possible.

My pops was a WW2 Seabee. He was on Tinian, Okinawa, Peleliu and Iwo Jima. When he got out, he was a private contract heavy equipment operator. That is hard on the body. By the early 80s, he had back issues and went to the VA. The standard of care was *horrendous.* Nothing we're hearing about now is really all that different than I heard him and his buddies talk about.

I'm not saying its right, I'm just saying while I'm appalled, I'm not shocked. I've always thought the VA was a cautionary tale about government run healthcare. I'm not sure it *can* be done better (by bureaucrats). We certainly owe these folks better though. I'd love to see some heads roll, but I'm not hopeful that the new 'crats will be any better than the old 'crats.

Posted by: DanInMN at May 28, 2014 07:34 PM (Z0Wdv)

191 Union? they want extra compensation for moving their eyeballs from left to right.

Posted by: tangonine at May 28, 2014 07:24 PM (x3YFz)



Not. Ever.

Nothing union EVER moves to the right!

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at May 28, 2014 07:34 PM (Fp7JI)

192 RUKM?

CNN just alerted that the US Navy is now saying the pings which were the subject of the massive search are no longer believed to have been from the missing plane.

Soooooo. Second look at Pakistan?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 28, 2014 07:34 PM (DmNpO)

193 "Wasn't it JFK that allowed Civil Service to have union?"

Yes.

Note that even FDR said that unionization of public employees was a horrible idea.

Posted by: torquewrench at May 28, 2014 07:35 PM (noWW6)

194 John Bolton just said TFG got the most tepid response at West Point.

Posted by: Carol at May 28, 2014 07:37 PM (gjOCp)

195 Breaking: White House officials say Vinny Falcone will take over the VA as part of a new Integrity Kick.

Posted by: CNN at May 28, 2014 07:37 PM (Ks4nX)

196 Hmm, my brother stopped by and gave me early BD gift. Glenlivet Nadurra cask strength, 16 yo., 105.4 proof.

He is a good brother, I'll keep him.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at May 28, 2014 07:38 PM (heq16)

197 >>CNN just alerted that the US Navy is now saying the pings which were the subject of the massive search are no longer believed to have been from the missing plane.

Soooooo. Second look at Pakistan?
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse

How do you know what is on CNN? Are you stuck in an airport somewhere?

Posted by: Aviator at May 28, 2014 07:38 PM (3rrMW)

198 188 Wasn't it JFK that allowed Civil Service to have union?
Posted by: Carol at May 28, 2014 07:32 PM (gjOCp)


Yep. Even Progressive Moses (FDR) thought that was a very bad idea and for the very reasons we have seen come to life, ever since.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at May 28, 2014 07:38 PM (lvrdZ)

199 Thank you, Torquewrench.

I thought it was Kennedy but wasn't 100% sure.

Posted by: Carol at May 28, 2014 07:39 PM (gjOCp)

200 I seem to recall the democrats politicizing everything including the weather during bushes terms in office.

The problem is we don't have a true oppositional party that will tell this old fool to piss up a road.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 28, 2014 07:39 PM (bKSy7)

201 Breaking: White House officials say Vinny Falcone will take over the VA as part of a new Integrity Kick.

***

I'd feel a whole lot better if they were announcing Vinny Gambini was taking over the DOJ.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 28, 2014 07:40 PM (DmNpO)

202 >>They payTruck Driversto go South to round up U haul stuff to bring back to New England because nothing is coming back that way.

Clearly you have never been in Boston in September or June. It is a veritable parade of U-Hauls as yutes from around the country to the college thing.

Interestingly, every state in NE had population growth, weak but growth, but Maine last year. We're not dead yet!

Posted by: JackStraw at May 28, 2014 07:41 PM (g1DWB)

203 I done effed up my lower back yesterday, but my hatred for O'bumbles and the rest of the sleazy democrats chases the pain away.

Posted by: model_1066 at May 28, 2014 07:41 PM (T5sQc)

204 The problem is we don't have a true oppositional party that will tell this old fool to piss up a road.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 28, 2014 07:39 PM (bKSy7)

Where's Lance Pruis "to the rescue?"

GOPe is going to get the ass-pounding it deserves in Nov.

Posted by: tangonine at May 28, 2014 07:41 PM (x3YFz)

205 How do you know what is on CNN? Are you stuck in an airport somewhere?

***

phone alert

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 28, 2014 07:42 PM (DmNpO)

206 I done effed up my lower back yesterday, but my hatred for O'bumbles and the rest of the sleazy democrats chases the pain away.

Posted by: model_1066 at May 28, 2014 07:41 PM (T5sQc)

The older I get...

I used to name my rifles.

Now I name my heating pads.

Posted by: tangonine at May 28, 2014 07:42 PM (x3YFz)

207 @cspan · 15m
VA officials testify on Phoenix VA before #HouseVetAffairs LIVE on C-SPAN2 http://cs.pn/1tnSquO

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 28, 2014 07:43 PM (DmNpO)

208 198 188 Wasn't it JFK that allowed Civil Service to have union?
Posted by: Carol at May 28, 2014 07:32 PM (gjOCp)

Yep. Even Progressive Moses (FDR) thought that was a very bad idea and for the very reasons we have seen come to life, ever since.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at May 28, 2014 07:38 PM (lvrdZ)


He did it through an executive order, so I see no reason why a future conservative president (if we ever have one) couldn't abolish the unions by executive order.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2014 07:44 PM (sdi6R)

209 Do not taunt Happy Fun Government Ball.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at May 28, 2014 07:44 PM (pgQxn)

210 I done effed up my lower back yesterday, but my hatred for O'bumbles and the rest of the sleazy democrats chases the pain away.

Posted by: model_1066 at May 28, 2014 07:41 PM (T5sQc)

The older I get...

I used to name my rifles.

Now I name my heating pads.

***

I turned just soooo this morning and knew immediately it was going to be a painful day. I stopped and bought a new heating pad on the way home.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 28, 2014 07:44 PM (DmNpO)

211 When is that Select Committee going to start up anyway?

What are they doing? Buying paperclips at Office Depot?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at May 28, 2014 07:45 PM (oFCZn)

212 Bush is responsible for this mess !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Dorcus Blimline at May 28, 2014 07:46 PM (hP/Mt)

213
the Benghazi hearings?

don't be surprised if the whole thing gets nixed because of some secret deal where the Republicans get the shaft.

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (Day -484) at May 28, 2014 07:46 PM (BtMVq)

214 Now I name my heating pads.
Posted by: tangonine at May 28, 2014 07:42 PM (x3YFz)


Of which, my knee is very grateful.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at May 28, 2014 07:46 PM (lvrdZ)

215 What Washington does not understand.... is that we understand that they are at War with us...

That they are power hungry Technocrats and Politicians, who are taking away our Freedoms and Rights.

The idea that you cannot sue the Federal Government for not doing its Job... or a federal Employee for not doing his... in a REPUBLIC... makes this not a Republic...

Remember? the old idea that NO ONE is above the Law? That Everyone, including the Government has to play by the same rules they enforce on us?

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 28, 2014 07:46 PM (84gbM)

216 Burn the witch!

Posted by: thingfish at May 28, 2014 07:47 PM (JdEZJ)

217 He did it through an executive order, so I see no reason why a future conservative president (if we ever have one) couldn't abolish the unions by executive order.

Posted by: rickl


I think you'd still have to repeal the Davis-Bacon act, but you're not really abolishing the unions. The gov can't ban unions outright, that Constitution and all. You're removing the exclusive bargaining.
/nitpick

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 28, 2014 07:47 PM (nZiT2)

218
At this point the Republicans are pretty much the camper and the Democrats are the bear.

The Republicans go into these deals wanting the shaft, I believe.

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (Day -484) at May 28, 2014 07:47 PM (BtMVq)

219 213
the Benghazi hearings?

don't be surprised if the whole thing gets nixed because of some secret deal where the Republicans get the shaft.

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (Day -484) at May 28, 2014 07:46 PM (BtMVq)


The deals already been made...

They will NOT ask where Obama was that night...

And they will NOT ask what the CIA was doing there...

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 28, 2014 07:48 PM (84gbM)

220 @204

What kind of mental defectives would give a kid a name like Reince?

His full name is Rhinehold Reince Priebus.

What a fucked up little douchebag.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 28, 2014 07:48 PM (bKSy7)

221 Hoist the black flag!

Posted by: thingfish at May 28, 2014 07:48 PM (JdEZJ)

222 RINO's LOVE The Shaft.

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at May 28, 2014 07:48 PM (jOumW)

223
I believe you're right, Romeo13.

The questions have already been screened and it will be a tail-chase staged by both the R's and the D's.

Posted by: Soothsayer of The Righteous And Harmonious Fists (Day -484) at May 28, 2014 07:49 PM (BtMVq)

224 Drain the swamp!

Posted by: thingfish at May 28, 2014 07:50 PM (JdEZJ)

225 I got some bad news for you. Many if not most nurses in all hospitals are in unions. And the nurses unions have been huge backers of single payer.

Quick question: Why are so many nurses land-beasts? Seriously. Go into any hospital in the land and you're going to see several nurses that are going to need knee replacements within the week.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 28, 2014 07:50 PM (l5wxK)

226 Pull my finger!

Posted by: thingfish at May 28, 2014 07:51 PM (JdEZJ)

227 The deals already been made...

They will NOT ask where Obama was that night...

And they will NOT ask what the CIA was doing there...
Posted by: Romeo13
++++++++++++++++++++++++

Who'd make such a stupid fucking deal? Oh, yeah right.

Posted by: Countrysquire at May 28, 2014 07:52 PM (8FyP4)

228 Democratic Party: If you went camping and woke up with a condom in your butt, would you tell anyone?

Republican Party: Hell No!

Democratic Party: Lets go camping!

Posted by: OG Celtic-American at May 28, 2014 07:52 PM (jOumW)

229 Nothing will happen to anybody
We are well and truly fucked
LIB

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at May 28, 2014 07:53 PM (R8hU8)

230 Speaking as someone who had 2 ruptured disks in their early 20's from motorcycles and skiing (used to race) - heat is the worst f*ing thing you can do for your back. It feels great, and makes it worse.

Ice. No fun, but reduces swelling and numbs it up. You don't want to increase the blood flow or swelling. Ice slows things down and reduces swelling. Blue gel cold packs. 20 minutes on, 40 off.

BTW, I'm all better.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at May 28, 2014 07:54 PM (pgQxn)

231
Tepid. That's code for politelyhiding animosity and disdain.

Posted by: wth at May 28, 2014 07:54 PM (wAQA5)

232 Rinsed Penis?

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at May 28, 2014 07:54 PM (pgQxn)

233 >>The deals already been made...

Did you watch Gowdy during any of the hearings so far or his press conference where he ripped the msm for not asking questions?

I'll believe he's muzzled when I see it.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 28, 2014 07:54 PM (g1DWB)

234 Remember? the old idea that NO ONE is above the Law? That Everyone, including the Government has to play by the same rules they enforce on us?
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 28, 2014 07:46 PM (84gbM)


You have to incarcerate a few first, and then that might work.

I think a few should just disappear, without being involved with the Clintons.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at May 28, 2014 07:54 PM (lvrdZ)

235 @208

Cannot be done.

Yes it was done be executive action but in the intervening decades it has been codified into law in various and sundry ways.

It would take a number of major pieces of legislation to get rid of.

Fun fact: It takes a minimum of 120 days to get rid of a government employee for poor performance. The average is 1 year.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 28, 2014 07:55 PM (bKSy7)

236 There are some that say we should do nothing, so that's what we are going to do with this one.

Posted by: Barry O. at May 28, 2014 07:55 PM (UvR6d)

237 Speaking as someone who had 2 ruptured disks in their early 20's from motorcycles and skiing (used to race) - heat is the worst f*ing thing you can do for your back. It feels great, and makes it worse.

Ice. No fun, but reduces swelling and numbs it up. You don't want to increase the blood flow or swelling. Ice slows things down and reduces swelling. Blue gel cold packs. 20 minutes on, 40 off.

BTW, I'm all better.

***

Not for me. Moist heat is the only thing which loosens it up.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 28, 2014 07:56 PM (DmNpO)

238 Clutch Cargo,
You are correct. Ice reduces swelling. I hate ice but use it when I have to.

Posted by: Carol at May 28, 2014 07:56 PM (gjOCp)

239 All business: #VAHearing Lynch reveals that during his visit of several days to investigate the allegations, his wife accompanied him for the weekend.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 28, 2014 07:57 PM (DmNpO)

240 Damn right nothing will happen. The lying scumbag politicians will talk a lot about it until the next thing comes along and then it will go to the bottom of Zero's to do list.

Posted by: thingfish at May 28, 2014 07:57 PM (JdEZJ)

241 OT (but I'm out and won't be back for the ONT): Gwyneth Paltrow, PhD, astrophysics:

"Our culture is trying to wrestle with the idea that everybody has a voice, and how it's unimportant and really important at the same time.

You come across (online comments) about yourself and about your friends, and it's a very dehumanizing thing. It's almost like how, in war, you go through this bloody dehumanizing thing, and then something is defined out of it,"

because being a rich actress is like... war. Serious you guys.

Pro-Tip, Gwyneth: keep your fucking mouth shut and we won't mock you.

I told someone earlier that you don't crush a liberal by physical violence, you do it by telling them they're insignificant.

Works.

Every.

Time.

Posted by: tangonine at May 28, 2014 07:58 PM (x3YFz)

242 Oh, for the love of all that is holy!

@BrianFaughnan 1h
#MH370 searchers were tracking... themselves. Seems like a big error. https://t.co/s8DIaonYNe

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 28, 2014 07:59 PM (DmNpO)

243 Gwyneth is the pampered daughter of Bruce Paltrow, who was a hardcore leftist Hollywood prick.

Posted by: --- at May 28, 2014 08:00 PM (MMC8r)

244 'Our culture is trying to wrestle with the idea that everybody has a voice, and how it's unimportant and really important at the same time.'


You! The skinny blonde in the purple shirt! Shut the fuck up!

Posted by: thingfish at May 28, 2014 08:01 PM (JdEZJ)

245 NDH it sounds like they actually could find their own asses in the dark.

Posted by: thingfish at May 28, 2014 08:03 PM (JdEZJ)

246
Irrespective of what the conservative press and Fox News says, I did not jump the shark at West Point, but delivered a well thought out and carefully planned synopsis of my foreign policy successes such as Syria and U-Crane.


I stand by my policy wins and decry the republican attempts to damage my brand. I am Bronco Bama and your not!

Posted by: Bronco Bama at May 28, 2014 08:03 PM (nQjHM)

247
#MH370 searchers were tracking... themselves.


I guess they COULD find their ass with both hands.

Planes, no.

Posted by: --- at May 28, 2014 08:04 PM (MMC8r)

248 Obviously Major Forbes of the Veterans Bureau is not available for comment on bribery, kickbacks, and illegal sale of government property for personal enrichment.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 28, 2014 08:05 PM (AzfMT)

249 Are the Chicago Blackhawks going down like Obama Administration cabinet-level bitches? Stay tuned.

Posted by: Fritz at May 28, 2014 08:07 PM (3wLHY)

250 Yes they could find their own asses in the dark with both hands.


Or something like that.

Posted by: ... at May 28, 2014 08:07 PM (JdEZJ)

251 Bring back the spoils system.

Open corruption is better silent Democrats corruption.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at May 28, 2014 08:08 PM (ZPrif)

252 Pro-Tip, Gwyneth: keep your fucking mouth shut unless you are sucking a dick.

Posted by: garrett at May 28, 2014 08:08 PM (2LYW2)

253 Hoyer said he spoke last week with embattled VA Secretary Eric Shinseki to urge him to respond the scandal "very vigorously, to express his anger and disappointment, and resolve to get to the bottom of this."
----------------

Pretty much the same way that Obama reacted, right?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 28, 2014 08:08 PM (aDwsi)

254 On Drudge the headline for the newly deceased stripper/poet "Listen to yourself and in that quietude you hear the voice of God."

Isn't that what Elliot Rodger was saying in those videos?

Posted by: Weird Smythe at May 28, 2014 08:10 PM (4ktVb)

255 CNN gets caught red handed faking a gun control poll:

http://tinyurl.com/lhaz5zp

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 28, 2014 08:10 PM (wNF3N)

256 Oh, for the love of all that is holy!

@BrianFaughnan 1h
#MH370 searchers were tracking... themselves. Seems like a big error. https://t.co/s8DIaonYNe


The tweet is not really representative of the article. The article is mostly just experts scratching their heads and saying "Well, that probably wasn't the plane because we didn't find the plane. Further, the pings were leading us to different places at different times. So, I dunno, I guess it's possible our equipment was making the pings."

The tweet makes it sound like the trackers don't know WTH they're doing, and someone flipped the wrong switch and set off a pinger and then began chasing it.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 28, 2014 08:12 PM (l5wxK)

257 237 - Actually, I have found that altering hot and cold packs with 20 min. in between has been helpful with back pain. Just me, of course.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at May 28, 2014 08:12 PM (aDwsi)

258 Corrine Brown is a fucking clown!!!!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 28, 2014 08:14 PM (DmNpO)

259 State Dept. misplaces $6B, mostly during Shrillary's watch.

http://tinyurl.com/mhgv95e

Apparently math ain't her strong suit either.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 28, 2014 08:15 PM (wNF3N)

260 A pox on the VA whistleblowers scurrilously impugning America's hard working, patriotic Bureaucratic Corp! To the brig with them!

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at May 28, 2014 08:15 PM (uhMMS)

261 Mark Levin is talking about Federal plans to urbanize the suburbs now.

Don't listen unless you want an instant ragestroke.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2014 08:15 PM (sdi6R)

262 CNN gets caught red handed faking a gun control poll

Nice find. I wonder how many other polls CNN put on the CNNI site, then presented as if they were representative of American sentiments.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 28, 2014 08:16 PM (l5wxK)

263 "Listen to yourself and in that quietude you hear the voice of God."


Isn't that what Elliot Rodger was saying in those videos?


He could have been like David Berkowitz and heard the voice of dog.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 28, 2014 08:16 PM (RGBsB)

264 >>Corrine Brown is a fucking clown!!!!

Not the funny kind, the Pennywise kind.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 28, 2014 08:18 PM (g1DWB)

265 And oh! By the way! We are sending David Dewhurst (R-ino) home! And Cornyn? Don't think for a minute you're safe from the Tea Party, pal. We just might run Rafael Cruz against you next time.

Posted by: Erowmero at May 28, 2014 08:18 PM (go5uR)

266 Yeah, the Left want Metro-wide planning and taxing authority.

They hate that people and businesses can vote with their feet and move to a county or suburb outside the city limits with different rules, regulations, and taxes.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at May 28, 2014 08:20 PM (ZPrif)

267 I saw Doggod open for Alice Cooper in '77


I think.

Posted by: freaked at May 28, 2014 08:21 PM (JdEZJ)

268 261
Mark Levin is talking about Federal plans to urbanize the suburbs now.



Don't listen unless you want an instant ragestroke.

Posted by: rickl at May 28, 2014 08:15 PM (sdi6R)

----
St. Louis is trying to broaden their tax base and get the county under the cities thumb. Lord help us all if this somehow gets pushed through. There is a reason commerce tends to be much more robust just as soon as you get past the city limits and into the county.

Posted by: Barry O. at May 28, 2014 08:21 PM (UvR6d)

269 Sock fail....Barry would never say that

Posted by: Dave S. at May 28, 2014 08:22 PM (UvR6d)

270 Actually, I am a dog god.

Posted by: freaked at May 28, 2014 08:22 PM (JdEZJ)

271 A freaked out dog god.

Posted by: freaked at May 28, 2014 08:25 PM (JdEZJ)

272 Posted by: bonhomme at May 28, 2014 08:12 PM (l5wxK)

Due to pressure, and temp layers in the Ocean... sound does really weird things at times...

Ask any USN Sonar Operator...

Which is why we don't just rely on computers to track shit....

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 28, 2014 08:25 PM (84gbM)

273 My favorite cheesy joke:

What do you get when you cross an insomniac, a dyslexic, and an agnostic?














Someone who lies awake at night and wonders whether there really is a Dog.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 28, 2014 08:27 PM (DmNpO)

274 More from Paltrow, MD, brain surgeon:

"I see myself as a chalkboard or a whiteboard or a screen, and someone is just putting up their own projection on it," Paltrow added. "It has nothing to do with me. They have an internal object, and they're putting it on me."

No, it's specifically you, Gwyneth Paltrow, whom we detest. It's not "projection," cupcake, it's derision.

Posted by: tangonine at May 28, 2014 08:27 PM (x3YFz)

275 @266

The left always gets what it wants, eventually.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 28, 2014 08:28 PM (bKSy7)

276 Someone who lies awake at night and wonders whether there really is a Dog.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 28, 2014 08:27 PM (DmNpO)

lol... try the veal! Tip your waitresses! ; )

Posted by: tangonine at May 28, 2014 08:28 PM (x3YFz)

277 >>> State Dept. misplaces $6B, mostly during Shrillary's watch.
...

Meh. It's only $6 billion. SCOAMF lost $2 trillion with his shovel- ready jobs.

Ooopsie!

Posted by: Damiano at May 28, 2014 08:30 PM (j0wOO)

278 That's funny NDH. I love cheese.

Posted by: freaked at May 28, 2014 08:30 PM (JdEZJ)

279 259
State Dept. misplaces $6B, mostly during Shrillary's watch.

http://tinyurl.com/mhgv95e

Apparently math ain't her strong suit either.


Posted by: GnuBreed at May 28, 2014 08:15 PM (wNF3N)

------

Running arms through Libya ain't free, in terms of lives or money.

Posted by: Dave S. at May 28, 2014 08:32 PM (UvR6d)

280 MH370 so the search teams were acting like dogs? Sniffing their own pinging butts?

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at May 28, 2014 08:33 PM (AzfMT)

281 I see myself as a chalkboard or a whiteboard or a screen, and someone is just putting up their own projection on it," Paltrow added.

Paltrow comes from the Barack Obama school of analysis?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 28, 2014 08:33 PM (XyM/Y)

282 @268

Or they will do what the libs were able to do in jersey force the the state to spend in urban areas for things like schooling.

All they have to is get a court to buy into their hair brained scheme on grounds such as disparate impacts, seperate and unequel, etc and the court will make it so.

Posted by: Kreplach at May 28, 2014 08:34 PM (bKSy7)

283 New, 12-minute old post up

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at May 28, 2014 08:36 PM (DmNpO)

284 St. Louis is trying to broaden their tax base and get the county under the cities thumb...
Posted by: Barry O. at May 28, 2014 08:21 PM (UvR6d)

Houston's been doing this for years. Pretty soon they will have annexed everything up to Dallas and out to Austin.

Meanwhile Houston has one of the highest crime rates in the nation (and it's getting A LOT worse, very quickly) and lowest ratios of cops/ population/ area. Property taxes have been getting up to NE and CA levels too.

But the major is a lesbian and they keep reelecting Sheila Jackson Lee, so it's all good.

Posted by: Damiano at May 28, 2014 08:37 PM (j0wOO)

285 Break it down, go home. Then summon the libtards and peacecorpse to rebuild.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at May 28, 2014 08:42 PM (Fp7JI)

286 Posted by: Damiano at May 28, 2014 08:37 PM (j0wOO)

I think I speak for all people in the DFW metroplex when I say, bbbwwwaaaahhhhaaaahhaaa!

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at May 28, 2014 08:48 PM (uhMMS)

287 In Obama's world, there are 2 classes of citizens: those who work for government and those who make them coffee or cut their lawns.

Posted by: teh Wind at May 28, 2014 09:05 PM (b+5vQ)

288 Look around you. This is what collapse looks like in real time. This is what a dying civilization looks like from the inside. Take good notes, and in 2,000 years you might become famous.

Posted by: whoever at May 28, 2014 09:16 PM (c/UgA)

289 Bill Whittle hits the nail on the head again:

The Wolf, The Bear, and the Lambs -
http://youtu.be/sOO_iNHypyA

It's good. And unfortunately, probably accurate as hell.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at May 28, 2014 10:44 PM (p4vr9)

290 Infuriating. I am a PT-VA pts get approved for 1x/ wk for 4 wks after rotator cuff repair surgery (normally 3x/wk for 6-8 wks). We have to beg for more approval and don't always get it. But for ESL workers comp, they get a translator and a ride for all appointments.

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