The "Othering" of Ted Cruz

Andrew Stiles writes of the practice of "Othering" -- which is really just a primitive impulse to say that anyone who is Not Like Us is almost certainly a savage monster capable of undreamed horrors -- and how Progressives have embraced it as a political Standard Operating Procedure.

The biological purpose of "Othering" -- dehumanizing, actually -- is to shut down all empathy towards the target so that a maximalist war can be fought against that target without any human fellow-feeling weakening the killer instinct.

It makes sense to dehumanize one's enemy in some contexts -- War, of course, most famously. And for the two to three hours of a sporting match. Football players, for example, fill their heads with notions of how their opponents have demeaned them and so on to get some good warrior game faces on. (Of course, football players also tend to shut down all that nonsense after the game is over; they don't move on to the next game still thinking about how awful and arrogant their last opponents were.)

But Progressives have decided, collectively, to just treat their fellow Americans as the dehumanized Other 24/7. Not just before an election, mind you, but every single day of every single year.

And they do so while chanting "No H8," their limited intellects, conditioned by those who manipulate them into hatred, not capable of seeing the irony.

Posted by: Ace at 01:22 PM

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1 Ah, content...

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 04, 2014 01:23 PM (ojnk6)

2 Ace went commie again.

Posted by: Adam at April 04, 2014 01:23 PM (Aif/5)

3 Barrel?

Posted by: EC at April 04, 2014 01:23 PM (doBIb)

4 Lots of linking...

Posted by: PagirlinNC at April 04, 2014 01:23 PM (LMKjz)

5 We are non-people.

Posted by: Y-not on the phone at April 04, 2014 01:24 PM (zDsvJ)

6 The progressives really are turning into the brown shirts. How long until people start standing up against this shit? I'm sick of it all.

Posted by: Infidel at April 04, 2014 01:24 PM (Z1SI2)

7 FUCK YOU, H8ERS!!!

Posted by: Rainbow Starshine Fleckstein at April 04, 2014 01:24 PM (DOOp+)

8 The funny thing is, "othering" is one of those things that academians - at least historians - tend to be pretty critical of prior generations about.

Posted by: Grey Fox at April 04, 2014 01:25 PM (VkXUE)

9 Supposedly "othering" is the reason lefties hate "jingoism". If you're "jingoistic" you're blind to your country's flaws, and dehumanize the citizens of another country.

But in furtherance of Socialism, there is no such issue.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 04, 2014 01:25 PM (qKrH5)

10 Yeah, pretty sure the Left needs to slow their roll before someone gets hurt. Hint: It's them.

BTW, this QupZilla browser isn't too bad.

Posted by: Lemmenkainen, Freelance Warlord at April 04, 2014 01:25 PM (ZWvOb)

11 But Progressives have decided, collectively, to just treat their fellow Americans as the dehumanized Other 24/7.

Twenty years ago, they wouldn't shut up about us cousin-humpin mouth-breathin snaggletoothed unejukated knuckle-draggers Othered all the time and we were WRONG.

Projection, not just a river in Egypt.

Posted by: HR at April 04, 2014 01:26 PM (ZKzrr)

12 Yes, the masks are off now. Anyone who still considers himself a "liberal" but not a leftist is tacitly supporting the left.

Posted by: rickl at April 04, 2014 01:26 PM (zoehZ)

13 But when I note that Henry Waxman is an actual pig-man, it's merely a biological observation. Is it "dehumanizing" when the subject is not entirely human? I suppose it is.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 04, 2014 01:26 PM (+lsX1)

14 you call this content? Where are the cheerleaders?

Posted by: mallfly at April 04, 2014 01:27 PM (bJm7W)

15 i do remember Plain relating this tactic to blood libel, and i do think i agree in some part of that thought.

Posted by: willow at April 04, 2014 01:27 PM (nqBYe)

16 Ted Cruz is being Palinized.

Posted by: votermom at April 04, 2014 01:27 PM (GSIDW)

17 Pig-man!

Posted by: Cosmo at April 04, 2014 01:27 PM (zDsvJ)

18 The viciousness and vileness of the attacks are in direct proportion to the amount of fear they have of Ted Cruz. Not just their fantasies, but real fear that he will be able to not only get elected but actually help institute policies to reverse the course of the past 100 years.

Here's hoping.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2014 01:27 PM (CMkNk)

19
Nice.
Yep, you thought about this overnight, I suspect, as yesterday brought on another wave of this.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 04, 2014 01:28 PM (IXrOn)

20 "... their limited intellects, conditioned by those who manipulate them into hatred, not capable of seeing the irony."

Let me go write that down somewhere - just in case a situation comes up where I can use it.

Posted by: jwest at April 04, 2014 01:28 PM (u2a4R)

21 18
True, the Leftists always telegraph who they fear the most.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 04, 2014 01:29 PM (ojnk6)

22 When exactly did this start? It seems to me it was right after 9/11 that the left collectively snapped.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 04, 2014 01:29 PM (pgQxn)

23
Classic projection. Looking at liberal politicians and talking heads for over a decade, you can see what they are by what they claim others are doing.

They haven't claimed anyone is killing opponents yet, so we have a little time.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 04, 2014 01:30 PM (0Jb7F)

24 I've suspected it for decades, I've warned of it for years, I've known it to be so for the last three....

The left is emotionally and psychologically in a state of total war with the right and the right demands to have their side unilaterally act as though we are in a civics text.

The mirror image of the left and right on foreign/domestic war footings is telling.

We're doomed to lose b/c we'll ke dreaming the "good democrats" will reign in the nuts...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 04, 2014 01:30 PM (TE35l)

25 I used to get along with these people, and I was acceptable in turn.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 04, 2014 01:30 PM (pgQxn)

26 Oh, we are way past the "othering" stage and deep in the "enemy" territory.

Posted by: Decaf at April 04, 2014 01:30 PM (9X3hY)

27 Palin even*

what more threat can be had when you change the disagreement to actual enemies lists that then the thoughtmeisters and disagreement haters use the govt to coerce and threaten the other "

Or you use your shock troops to harrass and impoverish ,threaten whole families (Even for the children!) of unbelievers?

Posted by: willow at April 04, 2014 01:30 PM (nqBYe)

28 Yeah, pretty sure the Left needs to slow their roll before someone gets hurt. Hint: It's them.

Yep. "Othering" is a two way street.
Makes it much easier when trigger time comes.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2014 01:30 PM (lwkv9)

29 22 When exactly did this start? It seems to me it was right after 9/11 that the left collectively snapped.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 04, 2014 01:29 PM (pgQxn)

I would say it was the 2000 election. Remember "He's not MY President!!!"?

Posted by: rickl at April 04, 2014 01:30 PM (zoehZ)

30 They went after Palin because they were scared to death of her despite the fact that she was on the ticket with a RINO.

They are going after Cruz for the same reason now.

Posted by: Vic at April 04, 2014 01:31 PM (T2V/1)

31 That's because they cannot perceive conservatives as anything but the following:

Evil

Stupid

Crazy Christianist who wants to establish a theocracy

or any combination of the three.

That's much easier than analyzing political arguments.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 04, 2014 01:31 PM (XyM/Y)

32 It's been said before - we want them electorally defeated. They want us dead.

I know you said yesterday that your default position was becoming "despair," Ace, but at some point you - and me, and the jwests of the world - are going to have to come to terms with that. We must fight back.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2014 01:31 PM (zF6Iw)

33 It's right out of the Alinksy playbook:
5. Ridicule is man�s most potent weapon.�
6. �A good tactic is one your people enjoy.�
13. �Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.�

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 04, 2014 01:31 PM (EPEqj)

34 You hit on the key point.

"It makes sense to dehumanize one's enemy in some contexts -- War, of course, most famously."

But to butcher what von Clausewitz said, most famously, politics is just war by other means.

So this is in fact on purpose, and as part of a wartime strategy

(let's call it a "cold" war, since there are few actual shots fired, and one side is made up mainly of socialists and Marxists).

Posted by: PrincetonAl at April 04, 2014 01:31 PM (P30nY)

35 I blame Sesame Street with their insidious "One of These Things..." earworms for wrecking this once-great nation

Posted by: Bigby's Salute at April 04, 2014 01:31 PM (3ZtZW)

36 Ted Cruz is a lot more of a regular guy than Alan Grayson, Harry Reid, Anthony Weiner, Ted Kennedy, John McCain, Chuck Schumer, Leaky Leahy, . . . .

Posted by: WalrusRex at April 04, 2014 01:31 PM (XUKZU)

37 The left is emotionally and psychologically in a state of total war with
the right and the right demands to have their side unilaterally act as
though we are in a civics text.

That's why we've never stopped moving left. They never rest. I have to admit, I get tired and want to ignore it. They win by the fact most of the population does ignore it.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 04, 2014 01:31 PM (pgQxn)

38 You mean the article about Ted Cruz being the most Machiavellian politician EVER wasn't in good faith?

Posted by: Lauren at April 04, 2014 01:32 PM (hFL/3)

39 Andrew Stiles writes of the practice of "Othering" -- which is really just a primitive impulse to say that anyone who is Not Like Us is almost certainly a savage monster capable of undreamed horrors -- and how Progressives have embraced it as a political Standard Operating Procedure.

This isn't limited to Progressives.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 04, 2014 01:32 PM (da5Wo)

40 Turning the other cheek isn't a very effective solution when the other side Demonizes you as the hated Other.

You can ask the 12 remaining Christians in the middle east how that works out.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 04, 2014 01:32 PM (ZPrif)

41 "We can persecute them because they are not human."

It's not a new concept, but the people espousing it always think this time it is okay. This time, it's true, because of the circumstances.

"We can persecute Jews, they murdered God's son."

"We can persecute Christians, they burned down Rome."

Hell, at least the bigots of previous ages could point to some violent act (legitimate or no) as justification. This modern witch hunt is about people expressing ideas in a lawful manner.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 04, 2014 01:32 PM (bZKG0)

42 And they do so while chanting "No H8," their limited intellects, conditioned by those who manipulate them into hatred, not capable of seeing the irony.

They really cannot.

When you show them the money being thrown at Democrat reps via Big Corporate Donors, those companies are the good companies.

When you explain to them they are being intolerant to those that believe in traditional marriage (whether you agree or not), you hate gays...

They simply cannot wrap their heads around the fact that they are being intolerant, because they are right, so they couldn't possibly be intolerant.

It's such a weird dichotomy.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 04, 2014 01:32 PM (IXrOn)

43 Someone on Rush just talked about how people will only wake up from their leftist delusions when it all comes crashing down.

I disagree. Look what happened when all of Stalin's 5 year plans failed. Thousands were executed for sabotage and more 5 year plans instituted.

The left will never concede that they are wrong because with them their belief is as fundamentalist as Jonestown or Islam. They will never give up or give in and will destroy the world if they have to rather than facing reality. Or destroy it when reality hits them in the face.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2014 01:32 PM (CMkNk)

44 Alan Grayson.

He is an Othering.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 04, 2014 01:33 PM (pgQxn)

45 Re the 2000 election:

The Dems very clearly tried to steal it and were thwarted. That's when they snapped.

Posted by: rickl at April 04, 2014 01:33 PM (zoehZ)

46 And they do so while chanting "No H8," their limited intellects, conditioned by those who manipulate them into hatred, not capable of seeing the irony.-Ace

Ends justify the means Baby. Being Progressive means never having to say you are sorry or just plain wrong.

Summer hours started 15 minutes ago. 8" of the global warming out there. So much for a Friday afternoon off. Cya

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at April 04, 2014 01:33 PM (HVff2)

47 Progressives really do hate us more than they fear Islamic terrorism, crushing debt, the decline of the rule of law, or any other potential existential threats to our civilization. I have no doubt whatsoever that they would in the name of "tolerance" happily herd political opponents into camps in order to isolate them from the rest of society, given the right opportunity. That's why our 2nd Amendment rights must be preserved at all costs. The only thing keeping them in check is the uncertainty surrounding the outcome of any such forced event and the subsequent response.

Posted by: Foul Harold at April 04, 2014 01:33 PM (FGvan)

48 COEXIST! Unless you are conservative. Then you can FOaD!

Posted by: flounder at April 04, 2014 01:33 PM (Kkt/i)

49 Where are the cheerleaders?

http://is.gd/46g5xu

Posted by: HR at April 04, 2014 01:33 PM (ZKzrr)

50 This isn't limited to Progressives.

That is correct.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 04, 2014 01:33 PM (XyM/Y)

51 The Left is also a religion. They can't let go of it or they have nothing.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 04, 2014 01:33 PM (pgQxn)

52 Ted Cruz is a evil, gay-hatin', right-wing extremist who doesn't deserve to be in this country let alone the US Senate. It would serve him well if the IRS, NSA, EPA, and others took a long, hard look at his present and past actions, although I'm not not directing those entities to take such action. What those agencies do of their own volition however is up to them, though. His kind of intolerance cannot be tolerated.

Posted by: Barack O'bama at April 04, 2014 01:34 PM (P1WNR)

53 The Dems very clearly tried to steal it and were thwarted. That's when they snapped.

And we still hear about it to this day.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 04, 2014 01:34 PM (pgQxn)

54 The left will never concede that they are wrong because with them their belief is as fundamentalist as Jonestown or Islam. They will never give up or give in and will destroy the world if they have to rather than facing reality. Or destroy it when reality hits them in the face.

--

5 Year Plans only failed because of sabotage by enemies of the state!
Moar Purges!

Posted by: votermom at April 04, 2014 01:34 PM (GSIDW)

55 That's why we've never stopped moving left. They never rest. I have to admit, I get tired and want to ignore it. They win by the fact most of the population does ignore it.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 04, 2014 01:31 PM (pgQxn)

Yes. This is what they are counting on. But, they have also moved to out-and-out lies, like JEF did with obamacare.

This is why Andrew Breitbart was such a shining star -- he was relentless in his attacks.

Michelle Malkin is similar, yet even conservatives attack her to death. I don't get it.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 04, 2014 01:35 PM (IXrOn)

56 It got personal when the POS in the white house handed an enemies list to the IRS, the NSA and the EPA and told them to go for it, using my tax dollars to attack my beliefs and my compatriots.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 04, 2014 01:35 PM (0Jb7F)

57 39 BC1981,

No it's not BC b/c guess what as their buddy Trotsky said, "young man you may not be interested in war but I assure you war is intrestedin YOU."

Lines are being drawn...or not but the left will not stop until they are stopped.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 04, 2014 01:35 PM (TE35l)

58 The effect of those out of power when they get power is pretty much written in to our DNA.

Take a peak at the French Revolution and Terror.

Posted by: Havildar-Major at April 04, 2014 01:35 PM (kduZC)

59 Othering is inherent to human nature. We crave it.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 04, 2014 01:35 PM (ZPrif)

60 >>>This isn't limited to Progressives

do you mean conservatives do it true? That's true, but it's less of a threat, because conservatives couldn't get a good Otherizing campaign going due to the media's determination to Expose All Their Lies.

The Progressive lies, the Progressive horrors, however, are countenanced, where they're not actually being aided.

Posted by: ace at April 04, 2014 01:35 PM (/FnUH)

61
A tangent, but the linked piece says something about the liberals not being able to abide a minority who does not think in lockstep with the hive.

But the whole "minority" thing is tricky. I never think of Cruz as Hispanic except when it's brought up, and then I say "oh yeah, I remember that". He looks white enough to me. He doesn't push grievance issues. He doesn't say his views are more important than others' on ethnic issues.

He's culturally a white guy who went to Harvard. I know he was born in some filthy foreign country, but don't you get to be a regular American when you've assimilated that well?

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 04, 2014 01:35 PM (JtwS4)

62 But, somehow, when the homosexual activists are trampling the religious rights of small business owners, it was no biggie. Why, if they just knew of your sincerity, they wouldn't react so violently. If you just modified your thoughts, they wouldn't stick the boot to your throat. How's that working out.

Posted by: ejo at April 04, 2014 01:35 PM (GXvSO)

63 I'd otherize the President but that would trigger the lefties and I would become a racist who must lose their livelihood immediately. So I'm not going to otherize him, the useless sack of shit.

Posted by: MTF at April 04, 2014 01:36 PM (F58x4)

64 51 The Left is also a religion. They can't let go of it or they have nothing.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 04, 2014 01:33 PM (pgQxn)

I hate comparing it to religion because even religion (or at least my understanding of Judaism) allows for questioning and even interpretation.

It's a fundamentalist death cult that demands conformity or death. There is no middle ground and no giving in.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2014 01:36 PM (CMkNk)

65 The fact that what they claim to fear the most - things like "privacy" have been completely eroded by things like Obama's IRS - goes completely ignored. So yeah, the Stalin parallel is pretty right close.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 04, 2014 01:36 PM (pgQxn)

66 I'm good with being at war with about 20-25% of the population.

Which makes me feel about abortion now the same way I would feel if we discovered the Germans and Japanese were aborting perfectly useful fetuses in the midst of WWII.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 04, 2014 01:36 PM (WZD4E)

67 It's a fundamentalist death cult that demands conformity or death. There is no middle ground and no giving in.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2014 01:36 PM (CMkNk)

No wonder they have such an affinity with Islam.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2014 01:36 PM (DrWcr)

68 You are not of The Hive.

Posted by: Worker Bee at April 04, 2014 01:37 PM (nEIMV)

69 These goddamn leftists have become totally callous to smearing and dehumanizing their opponents with the most vile of accusations. This is probably why Hillary killed Vince Foster.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 04, 2014 01:37 PM (+lsX1)

70 Political correctness is just the fascist's suit and tie.

Posted by: --- at April 04, 2014 01:37 PM (MMC8r)

71 67 It's a fundamentalist death cult that demands conformity or death. There is no middle ground and no giving in.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2014 01:36 PM (CMkNk)

No wonder they have such an affinity with Islam.
Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2014 01:36 PM (DrWcr)

I keep linking it and it is well worth the reading:

Andrew C. McCarthy's "The Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotage America"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2014 01:37 PM (CMkNk)

72 They also do it because they know it gets our goat. They did it with W. and they did it with Palin, and we wasted too much time reflexively defending them. We know how W.'s presidency went, and Palin's greatest accomplishment was helping McCain get reelected.

The Left thinks that Cruz is popular among the Right but is mediocre enough to make famous.

Posted by: Shoot Me at April 04, 2014 01:38 PM (EQcfE)

73 do you mean conservatives do it true? That's true, but it's less of a threat, because conservatives couldn't get a good Otherizing campaign going due to the media's determination to Expose All Their Lies.

The Progressive lies, the Progressive horrors, however, are countenanced, where they're not actually being aided.

Posted by: ace at April 04, 2014 01:35 PM (/FnUH)

What I mean is that Progressives extrernalize it while Cons seem to internalize it. Progressives Otherize Cons. Cons seem to Otherize other Cons. Hence the TruCon purity wars we have around here.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 04, 2014 01:38 PM (da5Wo)

74 I hate comparing it to religion because even religion (or at least my
understanding of Judaism) allows for questioning and even
interpretation.

Except for Islam. No questioning the will of Allah, and while you're at it kill the infidels where you find them.

Posted by: HR at April 04, 2014 01:38 PM (ZKzrr)

75
>>>I've suspected it for decades, I've warned of it for years, I've known it to be so for the last three....

Took you awhile.

Posted by: Bigby's Salute at April 04, 2014 01:38 PM (3ZtZW)

76 I refuse to bow down to Big Anus or any other leftist group, in fact I'm more against their positions now than I have ever been. Congrats leftists.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 04, 2014 01:38 PM (P1WNR)

77 Othering is inherent to human nature. We crave it.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 04, 2014 01:35 PM (ZPrif)
I disagree. Therefore, I will have you fired and then force the bank to call in your mortgage so your family can be thrown in the gutter where you belong.

Posted by: No H8! at April 04, 2014 01:38 PM (tv7DV)

78 #29

It started long, long before that. Consider how Reagan was vilified regularly on shows like SNL. If a writer proposed anything remotely like the treatment they regular gave Reagan but directed towards Clinton or Obama, he'd be looking for a new job very quickly.

Going back further, you'd think Nixon was the leader of the Manson Family from some of the vitriol directed towards him, even before Watergate. I was very young at the time but I had a sister twelves years older and to hear some of her friends talk about Nixon you'd think he was a mass murderer on a scale reserved in the 20th Century to Communist regimes.

Leftism has always been about feeling rather than thinking. Othering naturally is a behavior driven by emotion.

Posted by: Epobirs at April 04, 2014 01:39 PM (bPxS6)

79 "I know he was born in some filthy foreign country"

Yeah, you know what they say. "Canada. America's trash pit."

Posted by: Lauren at April 04, 2014 01:39 PM (hFL/3)

80 >>But Progressives have decided, collectively, to just treat their fellow Americans as the dehumanized Other 24/7.<<

Which is why I hate them equally and with a burning, thermonuclear passion of a thousand suns.

Their day of reckoning is coming. We didn't start this war. But I'll be damned if I am going to sit queitly and watch them subjugate our entire society to their whims. We haven't hit back yet. But when that pendulum starts to swing in the other direction, it's going to leave some real deep scars.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 04, 2014 01:39 PM (GGCsk)

81
Use Alinsky's tactics against them and the scream like injured hyenas. Their psyche is not set up to take ridicule and to be in a defense position.
Liberal politicians have given us a boat load of actual events of corruption, lies, and bad behavior to use against them.

We should.

Posted by: Cheri at April 04, 2014 01:39 PM (G+Wff)

82 66 Which makes me feel about abortion now the same way I would feel if we discovered the Germans and Japanese were aborting perfectly useful fetuses in the midst of WWII.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 04, 2014 01:36 PM (WZD4E)

Jews and non-Japanese were "aborted" in the millions.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2014 01:39 PM (CMkNk)

83

This is what happens when the millions of young heading to college are taking non-essential, unproductive curriculums. In fact, curriculums that teach division, ganster ethics, and crowdsourcing.

A layer of real bitter clingers.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 04, 2014 01:39 PM (IXrOn)

84 The effect of those out of power when they get power is pretty much written in to our DNA.

Take a peak at the French Revolution and Terror.

That should scare the shit out of the left.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2014 01:39 PM (lwkv9)

85 You know who is one of the worst at dehumanizing people? That fat ass cow Moochelle!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 04, 2014 01:39 PM (+lsX1)

86 It's stupid that the Right plays along with the game of pretending Cruz and Rubio are not white.

Cruz and Rubio clearly are overwhelmingly of western european descent.

If we did a blind DNA test they would be grouped in with the other white people.

This "one drop" bullshit really has to stop. It's unscientific and ignorant. Being 98% Spaniard and 2% Amerindian does not make somebody non-white.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 04, 2014 01:40 PM (ZPrif)

87 Lines are being drawn...or not but the left will not stop until they are stopped.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 04, 2014 01:35 PM (TE35l)
I am sure we could reach an understanding with our fellow citizens without resorting to violence.
We need a reset button, yea that's the ticket.
On second thought fuck em.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at April 04, 2014 01:40 PM (R8hU8)

88 The campaigns like this that the right conducted and was successful on were the Chic-Fil-A guy and the girl who flipped the bird at a memorial cemetery and before that, I think you have to go back to the Dixie Chicks.

in the first two situations, the media largely embargoed the story, and the only reason these Scalp Hunting campaigns were successful was that the companies seemed particularly pre-opposed to such conduct.

The Dixie Chicks Scalp was more of a "win," but that was only possible due to the superheated atmosphere post 9-11.

As a general matter, while there are those on the right who love them some scalps, they're just not able to get any kind of major "wins" in this ugly game due to the fact that 90% of the media and institutions that transmit mores nationally* are safely held in progressive hands.

* I'm trying to exclude churches. I'm not sure there are many churches that have a national reach.

Posted by: ace at April 04, 2014 01:40 PM (/FnUH)

89
Pretty soon, liberals will have "Othered" just about everyone except themselves. Even their less-liberal flanks.

And then the liberals will be back where they belong: on the sidelines as a much-mocked, politically insignificant minority.

Until that happens, though, you have to fight them tooth and nail.

Posted by: MacGruber at April 04, 2014 01:40 PM (sWgE+)

90 >>Yeah, you know what they say. "Canada. America's trash pit."<<

I prefer worlds largest trailer park and pool of #1 NHL draft picks.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 04, 2014 01:40 PM (GGCsk)

91 Except for Islam.

beat me to it.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 04, 2014 01:40 PM (pgQxn)

92 Which makes me feel about abortion now the same way I would feel if we discovered the Germans and Japanese were aborting perfectly useful fetuses in the midst of WWII. Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 04, 2014 01:36 PM (WZD4E)

The Japanese raped and murdered infants, cut infants out of pregnant mothers and murdered them.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2014 01:40 PM (DrWcr)

93 73 BC1981,

I am pretty sure I am not "internalizing" rag at any GOPer wwho does not reflexively side with the fuckers wanting to damn me to a cornfield in the DNC BC.

John McCain would do less damage to America as a democrat.

There it is.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 04, 2014 01:40 PM (TE35l)

94 So I guess this means that for the left Ted Cruz is man now most likely to get the nomination now that they're eviscerated Chris Christie? No, I'm not trying to start a debate on Christie. I don't want him as the candidate but they did a very thorough take down job.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 04, 2014 01:41 PM (XyM/Y)

95 "I know he was born in some filthy foreign country"

Yeah, you know what they say. "Canada. America's trash pit."
Posted by: Lauren at April 04, 2014 01:39 PM (hFL/3)

Calgary, Alberta.

Nothing like the rest of the nation.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 04, 2014 01:41 PM (IXrOn)

96 Pretty soon, liberals will have "Othered" just about everyone except themselves.

I find it interesting how quickly they'll turn on themselves as well if one steps out of line. It's like the worker bee comes back with the wrong smell on it and the rest sting it to death.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 04, 2014 01:41 PM (pgQxn)

97 "What I mean is that Progressives extrernalize it while Cons seem to internalize it. Progressives Otherize Cons. Cons seem to Otherize other Cons. Hence the TruCon purity wars we have around here."

Liberals have just as many TruLib purity wars. Remember the PUMAs? Hell, there are some feminists who absolutely HATE transgendered folks. Then there's the whole Wal-Mart Dem Vs Starbucks Dem thing, and don't even get me started on how the Dem party feels about minorities.

So yeah, there's just as much infighting amongst the Dems, it's just that at the end of the day they fall more easily in line because they're all collectivists at heart.

Posted by: Lauren at April 04, 2014 01:41 PM (hFL/3)

98 He's got big balls
And she's got big balls
But Ted's got the biggest balls of them all!

Posted by: Citizen X at April 04, 2014 01:41 PM (7ObY1)

99 85 You know who is one of the worst at dehumanizing people? That fat ass cow Moochelle!
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 04, 2014 01:39 PM (+lsX1)

Good point. I'm sure we'll win if we stop responding in kind.

So is your idea a Peace Quilt?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 04, 2014 01:42 PM (bZKG0)

100
I prefer In-group and Out-group.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 04, 2014 01:42 PM (VlefE)

101 "their limited intellects, conditioned by those who manipulate them into hatred,"

This is what the schools seem to be producing. *Everything* is about emotional, rather than reasoned, responses and the effect is essentially a zombie mob waiting to be pointed at the next Emmanuel Goldstein. It sounds dramatic to the point of insanity but, as a parent of school-age children, I've started paying a lot more attention the last couple of years and it's really disturbing.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 04, 2014 01:42 PM (GDulk)

102 Special Ed Schultz refers to him as "Canadian Senator Ted Cruuuuuuz."

Special Ed Schultz is both a rayciss and a birther.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 04, 2014 01:43 PM (7ObY1)

103 In fairness to those who are trying to make Ted Cruz "other," he is different from them. He is wa-a-a-a-a-a-a-ay smarter than they are. Also, way smarter than most of us.

Posted by: huerfano at April 04, 2014 01:43 PM (bAGA/)

104 These goddamn leftists have become totally callous to smearing and dehumanizing their opponents with the most vile of accusations. This is probably why Hillary killed Vince Foster.

Yes, very good.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 04, 2014 01:43 PM (qKrH5)

105 We pretty much "othered" the hell out of Obama.

I really think we need to cut through this shit. It's all ancillary.

Repeal the Income Tax. The rest of this shit will wither and won't matter.

Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at April 04, 2014 01:43 PM (ME3z1)

106 75 Bigby's Salute,

Yeah it did I always figured the Democrats had a few communist roaches like ~5%.....

I could look at their party as being American then.

That ship has sailed.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 04, 2014 01:43 PM (TE35l)

107 You know who is one of the worst at dehumanizing people? That fat ass cow Moochelle!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 04, 2014 01:39 PM (+lsX1)
Don't think of it as dehumanizing you; think of it as Klingonizing you. You should be thanking me!

Qapla'!

Posted by: M'Chel Obama at April 04, 2014 01:44 PM (tv7DV)

108 Yeah, it's not that the Right doesn't Other, we just lack the propaganda apparatus and power centers to do it effectively.

Hell, we couldn't Otherize Barney Frank -- who ran a gay brothel out of his home -- at least not in a way that did anything but give him more power and fame and put him in charge of America's banking system.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 04, 2014 01:44 PM (ZPrif)

109 An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind. Except the last dude who is now king, of a bunch of handicapped people.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 04, 2014 01:44 PM (P1WNR)

110 Liberals are intent on corrupting our electoral system, dismantling our constitutional republic and flooding the country with poor, uneducated permanent welfare cases. So I would say they've tried to "other" us. I am betting that doesn't end well for them.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 04, 2014 01:44 PM (GGCsk)

111 >>>Othering is inherent to human nature. We crave it.

yes it is. But so is murder, frankly, but most of us have accepted the social conditioning and philosophical abhorrence of murder.

Real problems come when an evil human impulse is, rather than being restrained by reasoned ideology, instead amplified and encouraged by ideology.

Islamist terrorists would not be so gleeful to kill if they did not have an ideology that taught them that Murder Is Holy, for example.

You subtract that ideology from the equation and you have what exists in most places -- a lot of angry people, some of them mentally unbalanced, some of them violently predisposed, who occasionally kill, haphazardly, in an uncoordinated way.

Posted by: ace at April 04, 2014 01:44 PM (/FnUH)

112 But Progressives have decided, collectively, to just treat their fellow Americans as the dehumanized Other 24/7. Not just before an election, mind you, but every single day of every single year.

And they do so while chanting "No H8," their limited intellects, conditioned by those who manipulate them into hatred, not capable of seeing the irony.

Posted by: Ace

Perfect example I saw just the other day:

I was at a reception on the UC Berkeley campus, where I was I heard some assistant professor type bashing Christians mercilessly (as Berkeley academics are wont to do on a daily basis). After the event, by chance I saw that same person getting in his car, which sported a (wait for it) COEXIST bumpersticker -- the "t" of course being a Christian cross.

Hypocrisy and unselfawareness, thy name is Berkeley.

Posted by: zombie at April 04, 2014 01:45 PM (mizYg)

113 105 We pretty much "othered" the hell out of Obama.

Yeah, we othered the hell out of him all the way to two resounding victories over us.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 04, 2014 01:45 PM (7ObY1)

114 Repeal the Income Tax. The rest of this shit will wither and won't matter.
--
Yeah, you are on the ball there genius. Gonna happen at any moment. If only we'd listened to your political genius earlier!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 04, 2014 01:45 PM (ZPrif)

115
Actually.... Cruz is getting of easy on the othering. The most vitriolic othering is reserved for black conservativies and pro life women.

See: Alan West, Clarence Thomas, Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman.

Hate or love their politics.... but there is a special venom reserved for these folks.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 04, 2014 01:45 PM (nELVU)

116 43 It's such a weird dichotomy.

Folks in the sanity-based community often cannot understand the plight of the mentally ill. And modern leftism is most assuredly a mental illness.

Posted by: akula51 at April 04, 2014 01:45 PM (xHTCV)

117 76 I refuse to bow down to Big Anus or any other leftist group, in fact I'm more against their positions now than I have ever been. Congrats leftists.
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 04, 2014 01:38 PM (P1WNR)

Big Anus. LOL!

You may not be bowing down, but you WILL bend over.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2014 01:45 PM (CMkNk)

118 As mentioned on the ONT last night, I just finished Parliament of Whores; in it, O�Rourke quotes a guy named Eric Hoffer:

�Mass movements can rise and spread without belief in a God, but never without belief in a devil.�

We have our own, too, of course, though ours seem to be created for us, where they need to go out and create theirs.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 04, 2014 01:45 PM (WX3R9)

119 This stuff has been going on since the 1800 national election (when rival militias were drilling on town commons across the country, just in case "something" happened). "Something" happened, of course, shortly after the 1860 decision.

The Dems are on the ropes and they are desperate for a ObamaCare game change. The endfield dance phase will soon dissapate, with more bad news to come, because 404Care is still a CF. Now the Dems have another disaster on their hands. Activists run amok, nihilists with flaming matches and jars of gasoline now threaten to crater the economy with 21st century witch trials. Thomas Jefferson quickly understood the threat from the American Jacobin Left during the French Terror and distanced himself from the hotheads. The Dem leadership, such as it is, had better do the same before election day if they wish to avoid political annihilation at the polls in November.

Posted by: mrp at April 04, 2014 01:46 PM (JBggj)

120 105 We pretty much "othered" the hell out of Obama.

And Kermit Gosnell, too.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 04, 2014 01:46 PM (bZKG0)

121 So is your idea a Peace Quilt?

Yes, a peace quilt. A peace quilt that calls out those simpering queers in Hollyweird for dehumanizing us!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 04, 2014 01:46 PM (+lsX1)

122
Yeah, you know what they say. "Canada. America's trash pit."

I did a deal with Bell Canada once. I'd tell my Canucki counterparts that Canadians are just Americans who didn't pass the entrance exam.

They loved me!

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 04, 2014 01:46 PM (JtwS4)

123
The power to caste-out is quite intimidating. Nobody likes to be on the outside.

It's true for corporations as much as it is for individuals. Being on the Outside, one can go cold and starve.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 04, 2014 01:47 PM (VlefE)

124 >>>�Mass movements can rise and spread without belief in a God, but never without belief in a devil.�

I love that quote... I didn't realize it was Hoffler. I've been pushing a variation of it for years--

You don't need God to be a religious hysteric. You just need Dogma and a Devil.

Posted by: ace at April 04, 2014 01:47 PM (/FnUH)

125 121 So is your idea a Peace Quilt?

Yes, a peace quilt. A peace quilt that calls out those simpering queers in Hollyweird for dehumanizing us!

Needs moar giant papier mache heads.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 04, 2014 01:47 PM (7ObY1)

126 105 We pretty much "othered" the hell out of Obama.

I really think we need to cut through this shit. It's all ancillary.

Repeal the Income Tax. The rest of this shit will wither and won't matter.

Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at April 04, 2014 01:43 PM (ME3z1)

'scuse me, son. SCOAMF was "othered" as an incompetent dangerous RED, not as a black.

But, I do agree that the IRS must be utterly obliterated.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2014 01:47 PM (CMkNk)

127 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 04, 2014 01:42 PM (GDulk)

We've moved from the Me Generation to the I'm Offended Generation.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 04, 2014 01:47 PM (IXrOn)

128
>>>I refuse to bow down to Big Anus

Big-boo-TAY!

Posted by: Bigby's Salute at April 04, 2014 01:48 PM (3ZtZW)

129 >>>>>The effect of those out of power when they get power is pretty much written in to our DNA.<<<<<

"If all power corrupts, the powerless are merely tyrants in waiting."

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living... at April 04, 2014 01:48 PM (5REbo)

130
The Climate Change will be the most powerful casting-out tool in history.

You are either with Climate Change or you are against humanity.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 04, 2014 01:48 PM (VlefE)

131 I think Gristle Encased Head is trying to make a point, but too subtly for my wooden brain to pick up. Do any of you have a clue?

Posted by: bonhomme at April 04, 2014 01:48 PM (qKrH5)

132

"Lord of the Flies" is supposed to be a cautionary tale, but to the left it's an instruction manual.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2014 01:48 PM (CMkNk)

133 For me, Canada is America's strip joint.

Damn they have some fine strip joints over there.

Full frontal, loads of hawt Eastern European babes, and the Canadian girls aren't as all tatted-up as here.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 04, 2014 01:49 PM (7ObY1)

134 "You just need Dogma and a Devil."

RELIGIOUS FANATIC. Why do you have to bring religion into everything. Plus, I think that breaks Godwin's law or something.

Posted by: Lib who doesn't have any self awareness. at April 04, 2014 01:49 PM (hFL/3)

135
"This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it."

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 04, 2014 01:49 PM (h53OH)

136 What we need are peace quilts infected with smallpox, to distribute at drum circles.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 04, 2014 01:49 PM (P1WNR)

137
Most days, I really don't think about the fact that things might go nine kinds of sideways within a few days given the right spark.

Then I read a post like this and remind myself I need to go to the range more.

It's honestly like living in two different but concurrent worlds. I get up, I go to work, I pay my bills, fap a little, down some Val-u-Rite, et al. and nothing really changes.

Meanwhile, the reckoning is coming, and I'm almost blissfully unaware of it. Almost.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 04, 2014 01:50 PM (fwARV)

138 85 You know who is one of the worst at dehumanizing people? That fat ass cow Moochelle! Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 04, 2014 01:39 PM (+lsX1)

"Dehumanizing" the Mooch would be saying that she is a loathsome, ghetto-trash mongrel who would be swinging from a lamppost if this were a decent country.

"Mockery" of Mooch is calling her a fat-ass cow or a post-op tranny.

The first leads to Auschwitz. The second does not.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2014 01:50 PM (zF6Iw)

139 Media is the Enemy.
They have helpfully told us who they fear most.

Posted by: votermom at April 04, 2014 01:50 PM (GSIDW)

140
But what I don't understand is why Ace still hasn't realized why in order to win politically, we do need to fight! fight! fight!

As you can see, the Left is having tremendous success with this strategy, and we're on our heels being driven backwards.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 04, 2014 01:50 PM (VlefE)

141

In Cruz's case Other might just be the ticket.

No one trusts the government anymore (or, more than ever). People talk of 3rd party and many Independents and Dems are feeling played.

If Cruz could be construed as truly outside (which I doubt, because even the GOP is attacking him and trying to connect him to self-serving gov type), he might stand a chance.

I suspect Rand Paul considered himself the Outsider - or NOT them. Cruz might end up being the real NOT them. Who knows.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 04, 2014 01:50 PM (IXrOn)

142 133 ...and the Canadian girls aren't as all tatted-up as here.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 04, 2014 01:49 PM (7ObY1)

Resembling Dennis Rodman or a Maori dockworker is not a turn-on. For me. YMMV.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2014 01:50 PM (CMkNk)

143 "Repeal the Income Tax!"

--"Yeah, you are on the ball there genius. Gonna happen at any moment. If only we'd listened to your political genius earlier!"

I very rarely hear anyone on this site talking about this and it's the ONLY WAY to combat collectivism.

It's not like no prominent politician is talking about it. Cruz mentions it often. Am I wrong? Can any of these problems be fixed without repealing the Income Tax?

Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at April 04, 2014 01:51 PM (ME3z1)

144 Big Buttsecks?

I like that phrase better than Big Anus.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 04, 2014 01:51 PM (7ObY1)

145 I disagree J.J. Sefton. The Left has read Lord of the Flies and just knows that next time they will get Utopia correct. They just have to keep repeating their experiment over and over until then. So what if a million here or a million there die, its for the children and the Earth!

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 04, 2014 01:51 PM (I6YUj)

146 Ace- This topic ties into Drew's Overton Window bit of this morning.

It isn't just the politics but the tactics that keep ratcheting in one direction. Borking was not done until Bork. It was a nasty surprise to have the hearings become what they were. Now it is done daily as here with Cruise.
Now, decades after character assassination became common practice, the IRS is used with impunity to attack. And the anti has been upped with the inclusion of EPA and OSHA as attack dogs.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at April 04, 2014 01:52 PM (IVgIK)

147 131 I think Gristle Encased Head is trying to make a point, but too subtly for my wooden brain to pick up. Do any of you have a clue?

His point is we do it too, so moral equivalence or something.

Both sides in a war shoot at each other, and both sides are upset the other side is shooting at them, and thinks they have no reason to, so there is a point.

But in war, you can have an aggressor. A bully who won't leave people alone. I would claim that is the left and not us.

And I would claim in a war, you respond in kind.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 04, 2014 01:52 PM (pOhSg)

148 And who carries out the "othering" process? Big media types from Hollywood and the Upper Eastside. Folks who hate the military and the yocals in Flyover Country. People who's heroes include Bill Ayers and Julius Rosenberg.

How is it possible for them to get away with this shit?

Posted by: Mike at April 04, 2014 01:52 PM (Rk8LS)

149 They aren't even subtle about it. Obama/OFA ran an ad in Ohio in 2012 that stated "Mitt Romney: Not One of Us" (with "not one of us" written in big letters across Romney's face just in case the really, really stupid ones out there didn't get the message).
As if, btw, that JEF is "one of them" You can fool 51.7% of the people ALL the time.

Posted by: Dancing Queen at April 04, 2014 01:52 PM (qG1i2)

150 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 04, 2014 01:50 PM (IXrOn)

You could be right given that SCoaMF ran as an outsider to DC the *second* time around. That was a level of chutzpah I hope to never see equaled.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 04, 2014 01:52 PM (GDulk)

151 145 I disagree J.J. Sefton. The Left has read Lord of the Flies and just knows that next time they will get Utopia correct. They just have to keep repeating their experiment over and over until then. So what if a million here or a million there die, its for the children and the Earth!
Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 04, 2014 01:51 PM (I6YUj)

Well, the big difference is now you've got me!

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 04, 2014 01:52 PM (DrWcr)

152 The problem for me personally is the Left controls most of the institutions I grew up wanting to belong to.

The Left controls all the best universities. Almost all of the cool towns and exciting cities. Almost all of the major media organizations. Most of big sports teams.

I didn't grow up dreaming of going to Liberty University or living in Lynchburg, Va.

So the rejection is personal.

At best I get to live in a suburb of a leftist city, cheer for teams that glorify a city that hates me, and send my kids to a university that despises me.

American Dream baby!

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 04, 2014 01:53 PM (ZPrif)

153 Media is the Enemy.
They have helpfully told us who they fear most.
Posted by: votermom at April 04, 2014 01:50 PM (GSIDW)

Again, the reason Breitbart was so important. He focused like a laser on the media. He understood it intrinsically, and targeted it like a lion.

Who has the presence to continue this? Who is willing and able to take the hits?

One back door way is to buy them out.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 04, 2014 01:53 PM (IXrOn)

154 http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2009/09/09/Forming-the-Leave-Me-Alone-Party

this is from 2009....it's time has come

Posted by: phoenixgirl at work at April 04, 2014 01:53 PM (J6ewz)

155 Resembling Dennis Rodman or a Maori dockworker is not a turn-on. For me. YMMV.

Same for me. Canadian strippers tend to look like American strippers used to look before all the tramp-stamps and oddly placed piercings and shit.

Fresh-faced college girls just payin' off the student loans.

Not all of 'em. But moreso than on this side of the border.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 04, 2014 01:53 PM (7ObY1)

156 Media Delenda Est.

Ave Cruz.

Posted by: votermom at April 04, 2014 01:54 PM (GSIDW)

157 Then I read a post like this and remind myself I need to go to the range more.

The Morons were checking out IWI Tavors the other day:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/msb6dzq

Posted by: bonhomme at April 04, 2014 01:55 PM (qKrH5)

158 �In the absence of faith, we govern by tenderness. And tenderness leads to the gas chamber.� � Flannery O�Connor

Posted by: Havildar-Major at April 04, 2014 01:55 PM (kduZC)

159 Loony Leland Yee's Arms Emporium, "Come for Grand Theft Auto! Get a Tavor!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 04, 2014 01:56 PM (I6YUj)

160
The Morons were checking out IWI Tavors the other day:

Posted by: bonhomme at April 04, 2014 01:55 PM (qKrH5)

Some dude named Yee tried to sell me some of those!

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 04, 2014 01:56 PM (fwARV)

161 The Morons were checking out IWI Tavors the other day: http://preview.tinyurl.com/msb6dzq
Posted by: bonhomme at April 04, 2014 01:55 PM (qKrH5)

I've gotten to handle one. It's nice.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2014 01:56 PM (DrWcr)

162 For me, Canada is America's strip joint.

Damn they have some fine strip joints over there.

Full frontal, loads of hawt Eastern European babes, and the Canadian girls aren't as all tatted-up as here.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 04, 2014 01:49 PM (7ObY1)

Have you been to Vancouver?

Basically and extension of California, now.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 04, 2014 01:56 PM (IXrOn)

163 Islamist terrorists would not be so gleeful to kill if they did not have an ideology that taught them that Murder Is Holy, for example.

You subtract that ideology from the equation and you have what exists in most places -- a lot of angry people, some of them mentally unbalanced, some of them violently predisposed, who occasionally kill, haphazardly, in an uncoordinated way.

Posted by: ace

I not entirely convinced of this. You're leaving out the evolutionary angle.

If a culture and mate-selection preferences favor men with violent natures, you can tend to get a lot of little rugrats who have inherited daddy's tendency toward violence, who then grow up to be admired and lusted after and thus produce more kids than passive nerds, and the process repeats over generations until you have a particularly violent society because it is populated by people with a genetic predisposition toward violence.

Anthropologists who study various tribes have noticed that in violent tribes, the top warriors are socially dominant and thus get all the chicks and have the most babies. And peaceful tribes tend to work the opposite way - for example, the guy who peacefully accumulates the most wealth will get all the chicks and have all the babies.

In the modern world there is so much globalization that cultural and sexual isolation no longer play as much of a factor, but pre-20th century it very likely did play a factor. How bug a factor is unknown, obviously. But I personally am willing to accept that, for example, the difference between Arab and Jewish culture has led to different population tendencies today: Arab warriors were socially valued, so warrior-lke babies dominated, whereas Jewish scholars/rabbis were valued, so scholarly babies dominated. Multiply that times ten thousand generations and you can evolve a genetically based warrior society vs. a genetically based intellectual society.

One may point possible counter-examples, such as the Vikings, who were "genetic warriors), but who somehow rather quickly in evolutionary terms evolved into peaceful Norwegians and Swedes.

I don't have all the answers. Just some of the questions.

Posted by: zombie at April 04, 2014 01:56 PM (mizYg)

164 "Again, the reason Breitbart was so important. He
focused like a laser on the media. He understood it intrinsically, and
targeted it like a lion.

Who has the presence to continue this? Who is willing and able to take the hits?

One back door way is to buy them out."
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 04, 2014 01:53 PM (IXrOn)

Greg Gutfeld has been holding up his end of the bargain on television. When he talked about "Right and Wrong", instead of "Cool and Not Cool", he put a different perspective on it.

"Otherizing" Hollywood should be a simple task. Not "easy", but simple.

Posted by: Slapweasel at April 04, 2014 01:56 PM (lq3Ak)

165 @105 We pretty much "othered" the hell out of Obama.

Let's be real clear about something. Obama is lying in a bed of his own creation. Need I remind you of the "cling to guns and religion" remarks he made on the campaign trail in 2008 before he was even president? What about the selective use of the Internal Revenue Service as a political weapon? We didn't start this fight.

Posted by: Foul Harold at April 04, 2014 01:56 PM (FGvan)

166 Another one of those Fen's Law dealies, right? Or is it res ipsa loquitur + assholes? Something like that.

Posted by: Beagle at April 04, 2014 01:57 PM (sOtz/)

167 An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind. Except the last dude who is now king, of a bunch of handicapped people.
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 04, 2014 01:44 PM (P1WNR)

hehe
you never fail to make us laugh

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 04, 2014 01:58 PM (IXrOn)

168 Repeal the Income Tax. The rest of this shit will wither and won't matter.
----
I prefer to deal with things remotely possible.
You might as well just call for a revolution.

You do realize there is no political constituency for this, right? You might get a few %. That's it.

We barely got some minor tweaks of marginal rates passed under Bush. And they were undone when Obama got power.

It's silly to debate silly thing that have zero chance of happening.

And simply angrily repeating it doesn't make it more likely. At least acknowledge how extraordinarily unlikely your idea is.

You present "Repeal the Income Tax" like it's an idea we aren't pursuing because nobody thought of it. No, nobody is pursuing it because it's political suicide.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 04, 2014 01:59 PM (ZPrif)

169
Our problem? Our outrage is fleeting. It comes and goes like the tide.

For instance, this from a year ago:

San Antonio Proposal Could Bar Christians From City Council

�No person shall be appointed to a position if the city council finds that such person has, prior to such proposed appointment, engaged in discrimination or demonstrated a bias, by word or deed, against any person, group or organization on the basis of race, color, religion, national origin, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, veteran status, age or disability,� the ordinance reads.

Remember that? We were OUTRAGED...for a few minutes over this.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 04, 2014 01:59 PM (VlefE)

170 Kinda like the "wilding of Sarah Palin" written about on American Thinker a few years ago. Both conservatives who "should" belong to the left being that one is a woman and one is a Hispanic. Therefore, they must be destroyed. I am 100% convinced that if Sarah lived in the lower 48 and was easier to get to, she would have been killed by now by a member of the tolerant left.

Posted by: Dan at April 04, 2014 02:00 PM (COpZ4)

171 This is one of the pillars of liberalism: Betes Noires.

They must have their evil monsters. They define themselves by who they hate.

Other pillars:
* Psychological projection
* Noblesse oblige
* Bien pensants

Posted by: AmishDude at April 04, 2014 02:00 PM (T0NGe)

172
Othering?
That's one of the pillars the scoamf's.
It's some other thing that causing the problem.
Unexpected is another type of other.

Posted by: YIKES! at April 04, 2014 02:00 PM (mETGQ)

173 We have to figure out a way to stop those soulless, leatherfaced, old skanks like Piglosi and Cankles from dehumanizing us!

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 04, 2014 02:00 PM (+lsX1)

174 You can't spell "progressive" without "SS."

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 04, 2014 02:00 PM (VjL9S)

175

>>>I could look at their party as being American then.

To be fair, sven, you live in a relatively sane part of the country. Here in the NE, as an example, when I tell people I was in the military the response is "Why the Hell did you do that?" and that's been so since the 80s. Some employers discriminate against veterans, too, based solely on presumed political sympathies. Most Lefties have no qualms whatsoever about destroying a Republican's finances, family, property, reputation, etc. and they talk glibly publicly and openly about killing Republicans. Not leaders, just all of us. Its usually said as a joke

Posted by: Bigby's Salute at April 04, 2014 02:00 PM (3ZtZW)

176
If a culture and mate-selection preferences favor men with violent natures, you can tend to get a lot of little rugrats who have inherited daddy's tendency toward violence

I don't think so. I think human nature is pretty uniform in its variability across races and cultures.

When you take any human males, give them not the faintest hope for meaningful work, teach them a fixed unyielding retrograde ideology, and massively suppress their natural sexual urges, those human males are going to be angry and violent and easily provoked to outrage.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 04, 2014 02:01 PM (JtwS4)

177 I like Big Anus and I cannot lie
You straight brothers can't deny
That when a boy walks in with a giant gaping hole
You get sprung

Posted by: zombie at April 04, 2014 02:02 PM (mizYg)

178
Its usually said as a joke

Posted by: Bigby's Salute at April 04, 2014 02:00 PM (3ZtZW)

My 5.56 rounds have been trained to giggle on impact. Let's joke back.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 04, 2014 02:02 PM (fwARV)

179 Othering - synonym. To be not of the tribe. Not of the body. Not of the collective.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 04, 2014 02:02 PM (I6YUj)

180 If you think about it, this tendency to dehumanize others is probably what turned Hairy Reid into a pedophile.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at April 04, 2014 02:02 PM (+lsX1)

181
You know what? Maybe your children should be excluded from Financial Aid.

And, because of you're voting record and discriminatory ideology, maybe your children should be excluded from all public schools.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 04, 2014 02:02 PM (VlefE)

182 Starving the Media at least has some potential as a strategy. And you can convince people one by one and have an effect.

Ideas that involve overturning our entire system of government are beyond the realm of practical politics -- and very unlikely to occur.

Practical politics is about making changes on the margins. Marginal Revolution as they say.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 04, 2014 02:02 PM (ZPrif)

183 I glanced at the article against AoSHQ SOP and I think Allen West has been practically felony othered. Soros dumped in five million and they used _marital_ sex to attempt to portray him as some sort of wild beast.

Like, straight outta' Charleston in 1820, the Left smeared West. It was ugly.

Posted by: Beagle at April 04, 2014 02:03 PM (sOtz/)

184 168 Actually I think eliminating the IRS & moving to a flat tax would enjoy massive popular support

Posted by: votermom at April 04, 2014 02:03 PM (GSIDW)

185 "You present "Healthcare reform" like it's an idea we aren't pursuing because nobody thought of it. No, nobody is pursuing it because it's political suicide."

Overtonned for your pleasure

Posted by: typo dynamofo at April 04, 2014 02:03 PM (IVgIK)

186 As if, btw, that JEF is "one of them"

Petty, envious, malicious, race-soaked idiots? I'd say he's one of them. (They may not recognize "tax Heather more so I can see doctors for free" as being malicious or envious (because they're idiots), but they're going to assume the guy who promises to "tax Heather more so I can see doctors for free" cares about them.)

Posted by: HR at April 04, 2014 02:03 PM (ZKzrr)

187 But Progressives have decided, collectively, to just treat their fellow Americans as the dehumanized Other

Objection. We are not progressives' 'fellow Americans' because they are not American.

Yes I read the post, and yes I think we should otherize them rather than trying to get along when they clearly have no intent to reciprocate.

More importantly, they are not qualitatively American in terms of culture and general outlook, much less basic beliefs. And most of them would happily tell you they think of themselves as 'citizens of the world' rather than American any time they think they can do so without consequence (see CNN for starters).

Posted by: Methos is feeling feisty at April 04, 2014 02:03 PM (hO9ad)

188 you know what is discouraging?

that we know this and yet we have found no solution to it?

how much time do we have?
this is a serious question.

Posted by: willow at April 04, 2014 02:03 PM (nqBYe)

189 Had an interest experience at dinner with some friends the other night. I know they're all sort of 'default' liberal -- I mean, I live on Boulder so that's sort of best case -- but never looked at them as rabid. The topic of handguns came up and it was like I was at dinner with Bloomberg. Since my long tradition of handgun ownership goes back, oh, 12 months or so, it was fascinating that I'm now "other" but 13 months ago I was just fine.

OT: For those of you out there who are similarly "other", Freedom Munitions is running a free shipping promotion through Sunday at midnight. Coupon code

fr33ship. I've mentioned them before and get no kickbacks or the like. I'm just a satisfied customer and I know there are folks looking for 9mm (and other center fire -- sadly no .22LR) and I'm pleased as bunch to get new (they also do reman) 9mm delivered to my doorstep for 25 cents a round.

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Posted by: Fritz (not Fritz) at April 04, 2014 02:04 PM (U0t2o)

190 Greg Gutfeld has been holding up his end of the bargain on television. When he talked about "Right and Wrong", instead of "Cool and Not Cool", he put a different perspective on it.

"Otherizing" Hollywood should be a simple task. Not "easy", but simple.
Posted by: Slapweasel at April 04, 2014 01:56 PM (lq3Ak)

Yeah, Greg is good, albeit short (heh).

We should try to get some of his RedEye crew on the AOSHQ Podcasts.

Joanne is hilarious.
And, Andy, well, he's a "The Jew" on the panel.

haha

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 04, 2014 02:04 PM (IXrOn)

191 Mitt Romney has never paid his taxes.

Posted by: Harry Reed at April 04, 2014 02:04 PM (Aif/5)

192 And, because of you're voting record and discriminatory ideology, maybe
your children should be excluded from all public schools.

Um, okay?

Posted by: Methos at April 04, 2014 02:05 PM (hO9ad)

193 Fritz is not like us.

Posted by: Beagle at April 04, 2014 02:05 PM (sOtz/)

194 Fritz, report to the barrel

Posted by: Methos at April 04, 2014 02:05 PM (hO9ad)

195 Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 04, 2014 01:38 PM (da5Wo)

No, Progressives do it internally too, it's just not publicized much.

Posted by: KG at April 04, 2014 02:05 PM (p7BzH)

196 Barrel people are the worst.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 04, 2014 02:05 PM (P1WNR)

197 188, there is no solution to it because the American public accept it and do not punish the left at the ballot box. Our culture and population has changed a great deal since the Reagan years. Education/media/immigration has changed America.

Posted by: Dan at April 04, 2014 02:06 PM (COpZ4)

198
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Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 04, 2014 02:06 PM (VlefE)

199
Ooh those shorts make my heart go boom
I can see you're pierced from across the room
Glad I wore something kinda loose
I'd like to hitch your engine to my caboose
Now let me see that dong! That dong da dong dong dong.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 04, 2014 02:06 PM (fwARV)

200 Damn. When I saw the embarrelling I was hoping for an 'ette.

Posted by: Hentai Squid at April 04, 2014 02:06 PM (JtwS4)

201 Actually I think eliminating the IRS moving to a flat tax would enjoy massive popular support

Posted by: votermom at April 04, 2014 02:03 PM (GSIDW)

The left would scream that it's not fair and the rich will get away with not paying taxes and the cretin class will nod their empty heads in blind agreement and it (a great idea) will be destroyed

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 04, 2014 02:06 PM (1Jaio)

202 But Wendy Davis is Just Like You, despite the fact that she's advocating killing perfectly healthy viable children.

Just look at her shoes!

Posted by: Lib who doesn't have any self awareness. at April 04, 2014 02:06 PM (hFL/3)

203 143 "Repeal the Income Tax!"

The reason this is such a tough thing to do is that there are people who think they are conservatives who have never thought about the relationship between government and private citizens, so they believe government has an intrinsic right to know what you do for a living and how much you make.

Of course, the Fair Tax Plan address this, but we can't even get our own side to read and understand it, so it's stuck in neutral.

Most people are LIVs. Sadly, that includes our side too.

Posted by: jwest at April 04, 2014 02:06 PM (u2a4R)

204
If Cruz could be construed as truly outside (which I doubt, because even the GOP is attacking him and trying to connect him to self-serving gov type), he might stand a chance.

You know, that may be just the ticket. He truly outside, all the pols hate him.

Posted by: Infidel at April 04, 2014 02:06 PM (Z1SI2)

205 That's why we've never stopped moving left. They never rest. I have to admit, I get tired and want to ignore it. They win by the fact most of the population does ignore it.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at April 04, 2014 01:31 PM (pgQxn)

They seem to never rest and the reason they seem to never rest is because many on the Left make their living as political activists aka community organizers of one sort or another. I seem to recall Henry Waxman, of all people, complaining about 'the professional Left' a few years ago, committed ideologues holding university tenure and postions at not-for-profits and the like. They even hire part-time seasonal workers in much the same way the agricultural industry does, and what they harvest are votes. During election years, we joked about the people Axelrod paid to astroturf right-of-center news sites and blogs, but who beat whom in those elections?

The concept is alien to us on the right. We lead busy lives andhold real jobs and spend time with our families. Politics is an interest among many other interests. Not them, though. The personal is political, all-consuming. It's who they are, how they define themselves. Their commitment is total. Utopia is that light in the distance, the single focal point upon which everything is focused.

The way to beat a full-court press is to stay calm, keep mistakes to a minimum, exploit to the utmost the errors they're bound to make, and thenretake the initiative. The big error GOP strategists make is claiming this issue or that piece of legislation isn't the hill to die on (to use another metaphor). When confronted by such tactics, every hill is the hill to die on. Concede no ground. Give them nothing, ever.

Posted by: troyriser at April 04, 2014 02:07 PM (gNlvW)

206
how much time do we have?
this is a serious question.

Posted by: willow at April 04, 2014 02:03 PM (nqBYe)

Serious answer - when Obama's term ends, it goes sideways.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 04, 2014 02:07 PM (fwARV)

207 169 soothsayer,

I was outraged more than a minute...but I'm crazy.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 04, 2014 02:07 PM (TE35l)

208 Posted by: Fritz (not Fritz)

Your barrel is waiting for you.

Posted by: YIKES! at April 04, 2014 02:07 PM (mETGQ)

209 insert 'is' where necessary.

Posted by: Infidel at April 04, 2014 02:07 PM (Z1SI2)

210 Also:
The leftists won't like this new paradise they think they are building at all. But, they'll still be blaming people like me and you as they're being lined up against the wall.

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Microsoft is the agent of othering!

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 04, 2014 02:08 PM (WX3R9)

212 Institutional "Othering"? How about Ken Starr? A bunch of nutcases dressed up as Puritans ran up to Starr screaming their heads off as Starr was pulling a trashcan down his driveway. Michael Moore was so proud of himself.

Posted by: mrp at April 04, 2014 02:08 PM (JBggj)

213
On Drudge - looking at the picture of Lurch peeking behind a flag looking more creepy than ever I had to laugh. This is what we have come to with internation relations.....Hillary and now Lurch.

I laugh but it makes me want to cry at the same time.

Posted by: Cheri at April 04, 2014 02:08 PM (G+Wff)

214 And, because of you're voting record and discriminatory ideology, maybe your children should be excluded from all public schools.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 04, 2014 02:02 PM (VlefE) fnord (VlefE)

So at least our education prospects would improve.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 04, 2014 02:09 PM (qyfb5)

215 Otherizing is a HUMAN weakness. ALL of us, whether leftist or conservative, are inclined to do it.

The difference is that otherizing is INTRINSIC to Progressivism. It's a feature, not a bug.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 04, 2014 02:09 PM (dfYL9)

216 I hate all the promiscuous use of the word "hate."

I've said this before, but hate is not a choice - it is an emotion.

I truly believe that most people today live their entie lives without actually experience hatred. Myself, I was 40 before actually experiencing hatred. What does it feel like? Well, it's like trying to describe an orgasm to someone who has never had one. But there is nothing enjoyable about hate. It consumes your entire being. If not for the fear of being caught, I would be a murderer. Yeah, it's that bad.

Posted by: bergerbilder at April 04, 2014 02:09 PM (8MjqI)

217 Ooh those shorts make my heart go boom
I can see you're pierced from across the room
Glad I wore something kinda loose
I'd like to hitch your engine to my caboose
Now let me see that dong! That dong da dong dong dong.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 04, 2014 02:06 PM (fwARV)

BETH!!!!! He's loose from the basement again!!!

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at April 04, 2014 02:09 PM (da5Wo)

218 Rush tried to otherize wanton contraceptive user Sandra fluke and he lost sponsors,

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 04, 2014 02:09 PM (P1WNR)

219 Fritz, come to me.....

Posted by: The Barrel at April 04, 2014 02:09 PM (PFy0L)

220 But Wendy Davis is Just Like You, despite the fact that she's advocating killing perfectly healthy viable children.

And Harvard Law.

Posted by: In Before AmishDude at April 04, 2014 02:09 PM (ZKzrr)

221 And by the way, that's another friggin' sore point, Harry Reid. This man has been in politics most of his adult life and he's fabulously wealthy. Explain how that happened through ethical means. Who the hell is he to be calling anyone Un-American.

Fuck, these people spit on returning Vietnam vets. They get their panties in a wad about terrorists not having Nintendo games at Gtmo, but don't give a damn about a half-dead American ambassador being dragged through the streets. Who the hell are they to be defining what an American is?

Sorry, I'm off my soap box now.

Posted by: Mike at April 04, 2014 02:10 PM (Rk8LS)

222 The first time I heard of "otherizing" it was from a progressive who was whining that conservatives always have to have an enemy and otherize immigrants, minorities, etc. The projection was just classic. Progs otherize conservatives with a viciousness and relentlessness that is astounding.

Posted by: biancaneve at April 04, 2014 02:10 PM (2sR50)

223 Dan, if that's true we should all just disengage, why stick our and our families necks out?

There must be some level of discourse and actions that could reach the liv's .

I see Koch's put their money where their thoughts are but other corps that could facillitate a free'er America for them and us?

I am wondering how ace types out these posts day after day knowing the truth of what is happening but how many are hearing ?
just us?

should we Lobby corps to assist ? i mean we need some skills!

Posted by: willow at April 04, 2014 02:10 PM (nqBYe)

224

For second I thought it read the buggering.

Posted by: Harry Reid at April 04, 2014 02:11 PM (mETGQ)

225 Flatbush - "You present "Repeal the Income Tax" like it's an idea we aren't pursuing because nobody thought of it. No, nobody is pursuing it because it's political suicide."
--------

Uh huh... because having to pay taxes is so popular. Yeah - it would be political suicide to enable people to stop slaving to pay for welfare jerks slurping on the teet we pay for with our hard-earned wages.

Posted by: Fyscyl Clyff at April 04, 2014 02:11 PM (ME3z1)

226 Rush tried to otherize wanton contraceptive user Sandra fluke and he lost sponsors,

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 04, 2014 02:09 PM (P1WNR)

I thought he just said that she was a whore

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 04, 2014 02:11 PM (1Jaio)

227 troy-The way to beat a full-court press is to stay calm, keep mistakes to a minimum, exploit to the utmost the errors they're bound to make, and thenretake the initiative.

Unfortuneatly, this isnt a game to those on the Left. It's deadly serious and I do mean deadly.

Posted by: Havildar-Major at April 04, 2014 02:11 PM (kduZC)

228 And by the way, that's another friggin' sore point, Harry Reid. who as you know is a pederast.

That's never going to get old.

Posted by: HR at April 04, 2014 02:11 PM (ZKzrr)

229
It is expected and right for the Left to destroy their enemies, existing and potential.

We should be spending this time to destroy clinton, biden, cuomo, etc.

Instead we're focused on exactly what the Left is pointing us at.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 04, 2014 02:11 PM (VlefE)

230 This part never gets old:

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Posted by: bonhomme at April 04, 2014 02:11 PM (qKrH5)

231 Rush tried to otherize wanton contraceptive user Sandra fluke and he lost sponsors,
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 04, 2014 02:09 PM (P1WNR)

But, it was what he said. He messed up big time.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 04, 2014 02:12 PM (IXrOn)

232 how much time do we have?
this is a serious question.

Posted by: willow at April 04, 2014 02:03 PM (nqBYe)

The hour is later than you think

Posted by: Saruman at April 04, 2014 02:12 PM (hO9ad)

233 202 Lib W/out Self-awareness,

They're color coordinated w/her catherter...

Posted by: sven10077 at April 04, 2014 02:12 PM (TE35l)

234 You aren't really Othered until you lose something important to you. Or forced into silence out of fear of losing those things.

If you are hated by a minority that has no power to hurt you in your personal or professional life ... the effect is minimal.

You can be a gigantic left-wing uber-douche, proud and open, and be welcome on America's finest universities, NYC's swankiest parties, and Hollywood's premier red carpets.

Sure, if you are a giant leftist cock-weasel you won't be welcome at Liberty U or get invites at Heritage and Limbaugh might make a few jokes at your expense. And you'll have anonymous people on the internet say mean things.

But life is still about as awesome as it gets. Power, wealth, women. Life is good as a caustic, Leftist uber-douche in America.

Meanwhile Beck had to leave NYC cause he'd get harassed on the street, booed in public, and have trash thrown at him.

I remember Beck telling a story once where he tried to just watch some theater in the park with his wife and daughter in NYC -- he was forced to leave being pelted with garbage.

Beck is a theater geek. He wanted to be Orson Welles on Broadway. But nobody in Broadway would ever work with Beck.

Beck is rich and get put on his theater shows in suburban Dallas. He can even rent out Dallas Cowboys stadium. But he can't be where he grew up dreaming of being. In New York City, under the lights of Broadway.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 04, 2014 02:12 PM (ZPrif)

235 how much time do we have?
this is a serious question.

Posted by: willow at April 04, 2014 02:03 PM (nqBYe)

Serious answer - when Obama's term ends, it goes sideways.

That long?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2014 02:12 PM (lwkv9)

236
This is one of the pillars of liberalism: Betes Noires.

They must have their evil monsters.

--

Betes Noires, literally translated is stupid blacks.

So, racist.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 04, 2014 02:12 PM (0Jb7F)

237 Serious answer - when Obama's term ends, it goes sideways.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 04, 2014 02:07 PM (fwARV)

so we have a chance? said in my female carey voiceover.

Posted by: willow at April 04, 2014 02:13 PM (nqBYe)

238
I don't want to destroy anybody. I just want to stand for what's right, and what is true. And live my life in an honorable way, so as to be an example to my children and my grandchildren. And to please God. I don't want to destroy anyone.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 04, 2014 02:14 PM (oMKp3)

239 231 Rush tried to otherize wanton contraceptive user Sandra fluke and he lost sponsors,
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 04, 2014 02:09 PM (P1WNR)

But, it was what he said. He messed up big time.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 04, 2014 02:12 PM (IXrOn)

Rush's ratings and revenues are through the roof while his and Hannity's former syndicator's, Citadel's is collapsing.

Do the math.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 04, 2014 02:14 PM (CMkNk)

240 Yeah, if Pixy could code that issue would be solved with a quick regex script. I'd do it myself if it would be implemented anytime in the next decade.

#twoweeks.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2014 02:14 PM (lwkv9)

241 Ted Cruz was more of a bitch magnet with the crazy tattoos. I like that version better.

Posted by: Fritz at April 04, 2014 02:14 PM (UzPAd)

242 Serious answer - when Obama's term ends, it goes sideways.

Why not sooner or why will his tern ending be the trigger?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 04, 2014 02:14 PM (XyM/Y)

243
Rush tried to otherize wanton contraceptive user Sandra fluke and he lost sponsors,

Posted by: Dr Spank

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And I bet every sponsor that left is now financially worse off.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 04, 2014 02:15 PM (0Jb7F)

244 Posted by: grammie winger at April 04, 2014 02:14 PM (oMKp3)

Me either.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 04, 2014 02:15 PM (XyM/Y)

245 And by the way, that's another friggin' sore point, Harry Reid. This man has been in politics most of his adult life and he's fabulously wealthy. Explain how that happened through ethical means. Who the hell is he to be calling anyone Un-American.

Reid is famous for dirty land deals. He gets gov't agencies to release parcels of land to developers for a little consideration from the developer.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 04, 2014 02:15 PM (qKrH5)

246 And they do so while chanting "No H8," their limited intellects, conditioned by those who manipulate them into hatred, not capable of seeing the irony.

so much this

Posted by: thunderb at April 04, 2014 02:15 PM (zOTsN)

247 The difference is that otherizing is INTRINSIC to Progressivism. It's a feature, not a bug.

The difference, I think, and I hope I�m not just internalizing othering, is that even if there were no Ace of Spades or right-wing hate machine �othering� Barack Obama, I�d still be looking at his actions and thinking, this guy is bad news. The only addition I�d have is, why doesn�t anybody else see it?

You look at the othering of Ted Cruz, or Sarah Palin, and I really don�t think the left would care one bit about them if it weren�t for the hate machine. Palin especially�she really seems to have been a moderate in governing. I can�t but think that, without the hate machine, the left would have looked at actions such as recommending that the state give up its bridge money in favor of another state that needed it more as �good politics�.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at April 04, 2014 02:15 PM (WX3R9)

248 These fucktards think irony is something old white guys have done to their shirts (and Klan robes).

Posted by: Aviator at April 04, 2014 02:15 PM (sKHit)

249 223, Willow, I hear ya. If I get a bright idea, I will let everyone know. Hoping for some outside event/miracle seems to be the best hope now. Obviously we try to win primaries etc, but those "gains" don't seem to last, but we still try.

Posted by: Dan at April 04, 2014 02:15 PM (COpZ4)

250
"...to just treat their fellow Americans as the dehumanized"

"I tend to use anti-human."

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 04, 2014 02:15 PM (kdS6q)

251 It's like e.e. cummings poetry

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Posted by: Citizen X at April 04, 2014 02:15 PM (7ObY1)

252 Now, let me ask you all this:

Is it ok for us to return the otherization?

Should we begin to refer to them in derogatory and dehumanizing terms?

Is it ok to give these radical--and evil--fringes on their side twice what they're dishing out?

For me, I think it comes down to the chances of reconciliation.
Can we get back to being neighbors or not?

Because at the end of the day, if it is going to be all tribes all the time--I choose mine.

Posted by: RoyalOil at April 04, 2014 02:16 PM (VjL9S)

253 Holder, former FBI director Mueller and other important Justice Department officials are said to have take nearly 400 personal trips using taxpayer owned private jets, spending millions of taxpayer dollars.

Is this theft? It looks like that to me. Hello Congress? Anyone there?

http://bit.ly/1fHpV8s

Posted by: MTF at April 04, 2014 02:16 PM (F58x4)

254 I remember Beck telling a story once where he tried to just watch some theater in the park with his wife and daughter in NYC -- he was forced to leave being pelted with garbage.

.
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 04, 2014 02:12 PM (ZPrif)

It's like there are no laws.
People should be arrested, and thrown in jail.
There is no recourse.
Even the POTUS and AG are criminals and still in place.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 04, 2014 02:16 PM (IXrOn)

255 @105 We pretty much "othered" the hell out of Obama.
***

Yeah.......
Say, how is Rev. "God Damn America" Wright doing these days?
How is Van "Communist" Jones?
What about Valerie "Payback" Jarret?
Michelle "Proud of my country for the first time" Obama?
Bill "Boom Boom" Ayers?
Bernadine "I�m not committed to non-violence in any way." Dohrn?
Frank Marshall Davis, Communist Party member # 47544, is no longer with us but I am sure Obama thinks of him often.
Ditto for Saul Alinksy. Obama sure holds him in high regard as does Hillary! who did her seniors honors thesis on him.

Poor thing. He's just like a Founding Father and we "othered" him.

Fuck him.

Posted by: B at April 04, 2014 02:16 PM (Pson9)

256 Maybe the solution is to reign in children. If they can't be home schooled, then at least pay close attention to what they're learning in public school. And who needs a degree from Harvard or any other liberal panty waste university? A smart kid is going to excel no matter where he or she goes.

Posted by: Mike at April 04, 2014 02:16 PM (Rk8LS)

257 I have a complex migraine coming on right now.

It's fun. My vision keeps doing wild things. Half my body is numb. I keep typing words incorrectly, and I'm pretty sure if I try to speak it will come out as jibberish.

Must be what it feels like to be a liberal.

Posted by: Lauren at April 04, 2014 02:16 PM (hFL/3)

258
Betes Noires, literally translated is stupid blacks.

Black beasts.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 04, 2014 02:17 PM (JtwS4)

259 I don't want to destroy anybody. I just want to stand for what's right, and what is true. And live my life in an honorable way, so as to be an example to my children and my grandchildren. And to please God. I don't want to destroy anyone.

Posted by: grammie winger

so much this

I don't insist everyone think as I do

I just wish they would let me think as I wish

Posted by: thunderb at April 04, 2014 02:17 PM (zOTsN)

260
We should be spending this time to destroy clinton, biden, cuomo, etc.

Speaking of which, we've heard nary a peep about Cory Booker since he became a senator. Wonder why?

Posted by: Infidel at April 04, 2014 02:17 PM (Z1SI2)

261 The places and events we, the Right, have control over -- the Left doesn't want part of anyway. But we do want to be included in what the Left controls. We did grow up dreaming of the big, famous America cities. The New York's and Chicago's and LA's. Or even just the cool up and coming cities and college towns -- the Austin's and Seattle's and Chapel Hill's.

We did grow up dreaming of Hollywood and movies and TV. Many dreamed of becoming an actor or singer or comedian.

That's a huge part of their power. They control what we want. And we don't control much of what they want.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 04, 2014 02:17 PM (ZPrif)

262 OT, but I just got back from being very girly and buying myself a new pair of shoes. The world is terribly depressing and the shoes were on sale, so I bought them. I'm wearing them with my dress casual business clothes, so they look terribly out of place and I DON'T CARE, because I like them. Pretty, bright blue sneakers.

Suck it, Wendy D(eadbaby)avis!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 04, 2014 02:17 PM (4df7R)

263 44 Alan Grayson.

He is an Othering.

He's a Gray Alien.

I mean. just look at his name. It's all right there.

Alan Grayson

Alien Gray, son.

Posted by: Citizen X at April 04, 2014 02:17 PM (7ObY1)

264 Sven has it right.
Bush should have pursued Clinton criminally for his Chinese nuclear deal and the Indonesian coal deal.

Failure do to so sent the message that future criminality in the White House would be tolerated.

Posted by: typo dynamofo at April 04, 2014 02:17 PM (IVgIK)

265 I don't want to destroy anybody. I just want to stand for what's right, and what is true. And live my life in an honorable way, so as to be an example to my children and my grandchildren. And to please God. I don't want to destroy anyone.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 04, 2014 02:14 PM (oMKp3)

Beating bad people into the ground is a very honorable thing.

Posted by: troyriser at April 04, 2014 02:17 PM (gNlvW)

266 The point I was making about Rush is that when he tried to otherize someone on the left the media leapt to her defense.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 04, 2014 02:18 PM (P1WNR)

267 And I bet every sponsor that left is now financially worse off.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 04, 2014 02:15 PM (0Jb7F)

At least one, I think Rush mentioned, was groveling to come back, but, they were rejected, I think. He already filled the slots.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 04, 2014 02:18 PM (IXrOn)

268 I have a complex migraine coming on right now.

It's fun. My vision keeps doing wild things. Half my body is numb. I
keep typing words incorrectly, and I'm pretty sure if I try to speak it
will come out as jibberish.

Must be what it feels like to be a liberal.

Posted by: Lauren at April 04, 2014 02:16 PM (hFL/3)
Are you sure you're having a migraine and not a stroke? Because that would be double plus BAD.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 04, 2014 02:18 PM (4df7R)

269
As much as I despise Obama and those in his administration, I don't want them killed.

The left prayed for GWB's death and fantasized about it on the stage.

Posted by: Cheri at April 04, 2014 02:18 PM (G+Wff)

270 238 grammie winger,

That's okay ma'am....I'll happily destroy them for you when the time comes and whistle on my way to Church.

They want to play total war I'm game.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 04, 2014 02:18 PM (TE35l)

271 That's a huge part of their power. They control what we want. And we don't control much of what they want.

We control what society needs, but you'll note it's all heavily regulated.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 04, 2014 02:18 PM (ytax8)

272 The Left hates Sarah Palin reason # 000003450:

She purposely gave birth to a healthy child with Downs Syndrome while in office.

Posted by: mrp at April 04, 2014 02:19 PM (JBggj)

273
And I bet every sponsor that left is now financially worse off.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 04, 2014 02:15 PM (0Jb7F)

One of his major sponsors (Lifelock?) dropped him then changed their mind Rush said no.

Posted by: YIKES! at April 04, 2014 02:19 PM (mETGQ)

274 I went to Slate to read the comments on that article by Will Oremus saying Eich was a bd CEO for opposing SSM

It's like reading Nazi screed on why Da Joos are teh eviiil

Posted by: votermom at April 04, 2014 02:19 PM (GSIDW)

275 It's fun. My vision keeps doing wild things. Half my body is numb. I keep typing words incorrectly, and I'm pretty sure if I try to speak it will come out as jibberish.

Are you sure it's just a migraine? That sounds serious.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 04, 2014 02:19 PM (qKrH5)

276
The Left today is every bit of an evil threat to our freedom and our republic as the Nazis and Soviets ever were.

And they are here amongst us, in our very government. And they have a plan.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 04, 2014 02:20 PM (VlefE)

277 The problem is Ted Cruz is everything they 'thought' Obama was. Minority + Elite Harvard Law education = smart 5 dimensional chess player. However, one became a street organizer, who cannot pronounce corpsman or operate an umbrella, while the other actually displayed achievement and reached what many lawyers believe to be the highest level, ie. argue before the Supreme Court. Seven times I think.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262� at April 04, 2014 02:20 PM (9Bdcz)

278 Now, let me ask you all this:

Is it ok for us to return the otherization?

Should we begin to refer to them in derogatory and dehumanizing terms?

Is it ok to give these radical--and evil--fringes on their side twice what they're dishing out?

For me, I think it comes down to the chances of reconciliation.
Can we get back to being neighbors or not?

Because at the end of the day, if it is going to be all tribes all the time--I choose mine.

I didn't pick this fight. I don't want to be in this fight.
BUT, drag me into it & I'll do my damned best to end it.
So, yes.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2014 02:20 PM (lwkv9)

279 Posted by: bonhomme at April 04, 2014 02:15 PM (qKrH5)

One requirement for high public office should be that your tax returns are automatically in the public domain and released on April 16 every year! That should keep Reid, the alleged pederast, on his toes!

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 04, 2014 02:20 PM (o3MSL)

280 Yes, Lauren

Maybe you should take a break and either lie down or check things out. This can't be a good place when you're not feeling well and we don't want it to add to your misery .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 04, 2014 02:20 PM (XyM/Y)

281
Serious answer - when Obama's term ends, it goes sideways.

That long?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2014 02:12 PM (lwkv9)

Sorry. Should have included 'at the latest.'

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 04, 2014 02:20 PM (fwARV)

282
Because at the end of the day, if it is going to be all tribes all the time--I choose mine.

I wouldn't join a tribe that would have me for a member.

Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 04, 2014 02:20 PM (JtwS4)

283 The Puritans and their descendents who are now the nasty progressives have always done this. It keeps the peons in line.

Posted by: Lester at April 04, 2014 02:21 PM (2UPXV)

284 269 Cheri,

It was projection.

Those of us saying we have to fight are not the left's imaginary friend TeaHadists but the left is at WAR with us....they need knocked off the plate and Mitt "Ogabe is great but so am I" Romney showed what refusing to accept this renders.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 04, 2014 02:21 PM (TE35l)

285 I just wish they would let me think as I wish

Posted by: thunderb at April 04, 2014 02:17 PM (zOTsN)

You can. As long as they agree with what you think.

Posted by: RWC at April 04, 2014 02:21 PM (fWAjv)

286 OT, but I just got back from being very girly and buying myself a new pair of shoes. The world is terribly depressing and the shoes were on sale, so I bought them. I'm wearing them with my dress casual business clothes, so they look terribly out of place and I DON'T CARE, because I like them. Pretty, bright blue sneakers.

Suck it, Wendy D(eadbaby)avis!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 04, 2014 02:17 PM (4df7R)

Good for you.

We can't stop living!

I'm waiting on an order myself. Delivery, though. New clothes.

Must gift ourselves. Why not.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 04, 2014 02:21 PM (IXrOn)

287 Holder, former FBI director Mueller and other
important Justice Department officials are said to have take nearly
400 personal trips using taxpayer owned private jets, spending millions
of taxpayer dollars.

Is this theft? It looks like that to me. Hello Congress? Anyone there?

http://bit.ly/1fHpV8s

Posted by: MTF at April 04, 2014 02:16 PM (F58x4)

But the left will go on and on about the 1% spending their own money

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 04, 2014 02:21 PM (1Jaio)

288 272 The Left hates Sarah Palin reason # 000003450:

She purposely gave birth to a healthy child with Downs Syndrome while in office.
Posted by: mrp at April 04, 2014 02:19 PM (JBggj)

I would say that is the core of it. I would out it as reason number 1. The hate directed at Palin started with this. I'm convinced it's nothing less than demonic.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 04, 2014 02:21 PM (oMKp3)

289 As much as I despise Obama and those in his administration, I don't want them killed.

The left prayed for GWB's death and fantasized about it on the stage.

Posted by: Cheri at April 04, 2014 02:18 PM (G+Wff)

This.

And anyway, when a leftie dies they just become a martyr to the cause. There's no way I want to give Obammy the privilege of being a bedamned martyr. No.

I've said it before and will again: i want him to live a long, purposeless life, in which he sees the halcyon days of his youth steadily eroded away until he finds himself old, cold and alone, pissing his bed and soaking in it because no one cares enough to visit and take care of him. I want him to see his legacy trodden into the mud as it deserves. And when he dies, I want it to be a footnote on page A23 of the local paper; nothing more.

THAT is what I wish for Obammy and his ilk.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 04, 2014 02:22 PM (4df7R)

290
The High Road is paved with failure and regret.

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 04, 2014 02:22 PM (VlefE)

291 I wouldn't join a tribe that would have me for a member.
Posted by: Frumious Bandersnatch at April 04, 2014 02:20 PM (JtwS4)

hehe

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 04, 2014 02:22 PM (IXrOn)

292 Betes Noires, literally translated is stupid blacks.

So, racist.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 04, 2014 02:12 PM (0Jb7F)

Actually, "black beasts".

But it's French, so it can't be racist.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 04, 2014 02:22 PM (T0NGe)

293 I think the attack they'll go with Ted Cruz is evil Christianist because they can't really go with stupid. and they'll trot out videos of his minister dad saying controversial things as if Ted agreed with everything. They'll do the same with Rand Paul.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 04, 2014 02:22 PM (XyM/Y)

294 otherizing requires complete domination of the country's cultural institutions to work. You must control media, academia, entertainment and government institutions to successfully otherize.

Posted by: thunderb at April 04, 2014 02:23 PM (zOTsN)

295 > Lauren

257 I have a complex migraine coming on right now.

It's fun. My vision keeps doing wild things. Half my body is numb. I keep typing words incorrectly, and I'm pretty sure if I try to speak it will come out as jibberish.
.

That's rather close to a stroke. Are you SURE it's a migraine?
Unless this is a normal symptom, call 911 NOW

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 04, 2014 02:23 PM (h53OH)

296 272 The Left hates Sarah Palin reason # 000003450:She purposely gave birth to a healthy child with Downs Syndrome while in office.
Posted by: mrp at April 04, 2014 02:19 PM (JBggj)

Yep. They're eugenecist Nazi fucks.

Posted by: Insomniac at April 04, 2014 02:23 PM (DrWcr)

297 "Are you sure you're having a migraine and not a stroke? Because that would be double plus BAD."

Haha. Yeah. Well, I mean I think so. The first time it happened I definitely thought I was having a stroke and had the full ER stroke event experience. The headcage MRI/ MRV were especially exciting.

Everything looked fine though, so they decided it was either a TIA or a complex migraine. Since then I've had a few more so we've decided on Complex Migraine.

Of course, now if I ever do have a stroke I'll probably just take Excedrin Migraine and die so...well that would suck.

Posted by: Lauren at April 04, 2014 02:23 PM (hFL/3)

298
The Left hates Sarah Palin reason # 000003450:
She purposely gave birth to a healthy child with Downs Syndrome while in office.
Posted by: mrp at April 04, 2014 02:19 PM (JBggj)

I'm amazed/fascinated on how the left becomes insane with rage toward a woman with no real political power other than voicing an opinion.

Posted by: YIKES! at April 04, 2014 02:23 PM (mETGQ)

299 I went to Slate to read the comments on that article by Will Oremus saying Eich was a bd CEO for opposing SSM

It's like reading Nazi screed on why Da Joos are teh eviiil

Posted by: votermom at April 04, 2014 02:19 PM (GSIDW)

Diversity is strength unless that diversity is of opinions the left wants to destroy

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 04, 2014 02:23 PM (1Jaio)

300 THAT is what I wish for Obammy and his ilk.
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 04, 2014 02:22 PM (4df7R)

I feel sorry for his daughters.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 04, 2014 02:23 PM (IXrOn)

301 'cause their pretty damn alike.

WZ-

ABC News Uses Footage of Westboro Baptist Freaks During Report On Mozilla CEO Being Forced To Resign By Gay Bullies�

Posted by: RWC at April 04, 2014 02:23 PM (fWAjv)

302 Meanwhile after two years a restored version of The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari has premiered.

http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20140213-new-look-for-silent-classic

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at April 04, 2014 02:23 PM (I6YUj)

303 289 As much as I despise Obama and those in his administration, I don't want them killed.

Actually...I think the Left has fantasized about it since 2008.

The "best" Democrat president in the 20th century, as far as they're concerned, was the martyred one.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 04, 2014 02:23 PM (T0NGe)

304 You know the newscaster who randomly started speaking jibberish on camera?

Yeah, that's what happens to me too.

Posted by: Lauren at April 04, 2014 02:24 PM (hFL/3)

305 265 troyriser,

Amen, Christian soldier doctrine.

Be the worst enemy a man can have at war and the best friend he could want in peace.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 04, 2014 02:24 PM (TE35l)

306 Our ability to Otherize is small and weak compared to the Left.
One sneering joke from Jon Stewart beats a million anonymous Obama jokes on right-wing alt-media sites.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 04, 2014 02:24 PM (ZPrif)

307 I feel sorry for his daughters.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 04, 2014 02:23 PM (IXrOn)

Me, too. It's not their fault they were born to a lightweight and a grifter. I can only hope they'll end up rebelling against their awful parents and becoming conservatives.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 04, 2014 02:25 PM (4df7R)

308 You see how effective othering can be even on right leaning blogs. When is the last time you heard someone say something positive about Palin without attaching some sort of disclaimer to it as to how they don't agree with her on everything but....?

When the right abandoned Palin the press and the left (as if there is a difference) was emboldened. Now you see the Republican establishment doing the same thing with the Tea Party. How sick is a society when the only rational, fiscally sane political movement in the entire country is the one which must be demonized by anyone holding power? It pretty much shows you that all the politicians are interested in is looting the corpse of what was once a great nation.

Posted by: Thatch at April 04, 2014 02:25 PM (qYvEa)

309
The hate directed at Palin started with this. I'm convinced it's nothing less than demonic.

--

That is all the left has, besides jealousy. Demonic hate. Look at every issue they stand for, and it essentially is sin or jealousy.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 04, 2014 02:25 PM (0Jb7F)

310
false
false
nood

Posted by: Soothsayer, corn bread assassin at April 04, 2014 02:26 PM (VlefE)

311 Leftists are pigs. There, I said it.

Posted by: Soona at April 04, 2014 02:26 PM (QFEAP)

312 One of his major sponsors (Lifelock?) dropped him then changed their mind Rush said no.
Posted by: YIKES! at April 04, 2014 02:19 PM (mETGQ)

----------

This is not true. Rush pimps them daily.

Posted by: ManWithNoParty at April 04, 2014 02:26 PM (ojnk6)

313 Our ability to Otherize is small and weak compared to the Left.

One sneering joke from Jon Stewart beats a million anonymous Obama jokes on right-wing alt-media sites.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 04, 2014 02:24 PM (ZPrif)

Doesn't matter. that's all the more reason to do it.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 04, 2014 02:26 PM (4df7R)

314 I went to Slate to read the comments on that article by Will Oremus saying Eich was a bd CEO for opposing SSM

You're a braver person than I am. I don't want to go look for that stuff.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 04, 2014 02:26 PM (XyM/Y)

315 294 thunderb,

Not true you must create a counterculture in the absence thereof...

It's why we MUST start boycotting.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 04, 2014 02:26 PM (TE35l)

316 One of his major sponsors (Lifelock?) dropped him then changed their mind Rush said no.

Posted by: YIKES! at April 04, 2014 02:19 PM (mETGQ)

It was Carbonite.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 04, 2014 02:27 PM (4df7R)

317 nood

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 04, 2014 02:27 PM (P1WNR)

318 The headcage MRI/ MRV were especially exciting.

Of course, now if I ever do have a stroke I'll probably just take Excedrin Migraine and die so...well that would suck.
Posted by: Lauren at April 04, 2014 02:23 PM (hFL/3)

You should lay down with ice over your eyes. They need to rest.

I had the head MRI and ctscan, too.

Same for me. Cluster(fark) migraines. Awful.

Excedrin works. Tylenol has a version too, now. It is the exact same stuff.

But, being on the computer is the worst during a migraine.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 04, 2014 02:27 PM (IXrOn)

319 false
false
nood

I almost bit.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 04, 2014 02:28 PM (lwkv9)

320 "One requirement for high public office should be that your tax returns are automatically in the public domain and released on April 16 every year!"

I think you should be secure in your home and papers, regardless if you're a citizen, a politician or a Tea Partier.

Posted by: jwest at April 04, 2014 02:28 PM (u2a4R)

321 By the way, are "whitesplaining" and "White privilege" not just more otherising?

Posted by: typo dynamofo (my white privilege has callouses) at April 04, 2014 02:28 PM (IVgIK)

322 ABC News Uses Footage of Westboro Baptist Freaks During Report On Mozilla CEO Being Forced To Resign By Gay Bullies�

Posted by: RWC at April 04, 2014 02:23 PM (fWAjv)

----

Well.... Fred and the Gaystapo are both Democrats... soooooo

Posted by: fixerupper at April 04, 2014 02:28 PM (nELVU)

323 Yeah, I'm headed to a dark room. I'll check in with everyone later to let you know I'm alive.

Posted by: Lauren at April 04, 2014 02:28 PM (hFL/3)

324 "Will no one rid me of this turbulent other person?"

Posted by: Henry Obama at April 04, 2014 02:29 PM (7xvrP)

325 323 Yeah, I'm headed to a dark room. I'll check in with everyone later to let you know I'm alive.
Posted by: Lauren at April 04, 2014 02:28 PM (hFL/3)

As a former migraine sufferer, I hope it passes quickly. Rest well.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 04, 2014 02:30 PM (oMKp3)

326 261 The places and events we, the Right, have control over -- the Left doesn't want part of anyway.....
Posted by: Flatbush Joe at April 04, 2014 02:17 PM (ZPrif)
--------------------
FALSE.
They want talk radio dead.
They want Fox dead.
They want the Catholic Church dead.
They want ANY biblical church dead.
They want football dead.
They want the Boy Scouts dead.

(By "dead" I mean either gone or taken over by leftism.)

They are obsessed by anything they don't control.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 04, 2014 02:30 PM (dfYL9)

327 "22 When exactly did this start? It seems to me it was right after 9/11 that the left collectively snapped."

The attitudes began showing themselves in public then, but this toxic "Manichean" style of politics has been germinating for many decades. The only difference is that these "othering" attitudes used to be expressed circumspectly behind closed doors in university seminars. Now they are broadcast publicly from mainstream news outlets and preached openly in classroom. These attitudes have been a political force in Europe since the French Revolution, and they have bedeviled Europe for over two centuries. In the 20th century we (the US) were exceptional in that we fought the Revolution overseas, but not at home. Now, however, the revolutionary virus has infected America.

I see more and more that we will undergo the same testing that bedeviled 20th century Europe. The rising tide of Manichean politics will not recede on its own. I don't know what form the conflict will take; if America is truly exceptional, it will play out differently here than it did in Europe (and Asia, Africa, et al).

Lately I've been reminded of a conversation that Whittaker Chambers had with a Russian General who escaped Stalin's purges. The general told him that it is not enough to be "conservative" in the modern conflict; you must be counter-revolutionary. Only that stance can counter the Revolution, and I mean Revolution with a capital 'R.' It's here, and I don't see what good it does us to deny it any longer. What we do about this massive political fact is of course up for debate.

Posted by: Meriadoc at April 04, 2014 02:32 PM (k7X5a)

328 I do not like otherizeing people. But I've tried on numerous occasians to have coherent conversations with leftists. It's impossible.

Beck wants to find common ground with these people. Well, there isn't any. I will not abide anyone who openly wants to destroy the Constitution and my country.

They want to kill us.

Posted by: Soona at April 04, 2014 02:32 PM (QFEAP)

329
>>>This is one of the pillars of liberalism: Betes Noires.

I saw a kid take a brick to the head over politics. Guess what party he his parents supported?

Posted by: Bigby's Salute at April 04, 2014 02:34 PM (3ZtZW)

330 327 --- THIS.

Othering and the Revolution, the Movement, the Party go hand in hand.

And BTW, a lot of people are confusing othering with insulting. Not the same thing.
You can call me a poopyhead without excommunicating me from humanity.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at April 04, 2014 02:35 PM (dfYL9)

331
>>>Is it ok for us to return the otherization?

If you talk to a Liberal, they will claim you already do. They'll exclaim that "Liberal" is a diry word and declaim at length about how oppressed they are. They're just fightin' for their Rights, you know.

Posted by: Bigby's Salute at April 04, 2014 02:36 PM (3ZtZW)

332 Me, too. It's not their fault they were born to a
lightweight and a grifter. I can only hope they'll end up rebelling
against their awful parents and becoming conservatives.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Bossy Assault Hobbit (or Beth for short) at April 04, 2014 02:25 PM (4df7R)

I'll bet that if they were to do so, Leftists would be lining up around the block to assassinate them.

Posted by: KG at April 04, 2014 02:38 PM (p7BzH)

333 I'm what Jim Gaffigan referred to as a "Shi'ite" Catholic. I'm "o"rthodox who follows God and His Bride the Church instruct me to follow.

I've come to the conclusion that persecution is here and worse is to come. I don't fear this at all. I've accepted the Cross Christ is offering me. I will defend my country and family but it I accept the will of God in my life. Prayer and mortification and an active sacramental life. For those so inclined, I would recommend same.

Posted by: Havildar-Major at April 04, 2014 02:41 PM (kduZC)

334 And I bet every sponsor that left is now financially worse off.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at April 04, 2014 02:15 PM (0Jb7F)

At least one, I think Rush mentioned, was groveling to come back, but, they were rejected, I think. He already filled the slots.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 04, 2014 02:18 PM (IXrOn)

Carbonite.

Lifelock expressed their disagreement with Rush's statements, but stayed as a sponsor. One can currently go to Rush's webpage and get 10% off of a Lifelock membership.

Posted by: Jen at April 04, 2014 02:44 PM (IdGqX)

335 "But Progressives have decided, collectively, to just treat their fellow Americans as the dehumanized Other 24/7. Not just before an election, mind you, but every single day of every single year."

Ace, it might be time to start recognising that "progressives" may well not really be our "fellow Americans."

Posted by: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus at April 04, 2014 02:44 PM (YYJjz)

336 261 - That's a huge part of their power. They control what we want. And we don't control much of what they want.
------------------------------------------------

Except food.

Posted by: whyme at April 04, 2014 02:47 PM (l9mF2)

337 Posted by: AmishDude at April 04, 2014 02:23 PM (T0NGe)

That's been my concern from the beginning. Some wacko leftist who decides to take matters into his own hands because of SCoaMF's drone policy or something. Lovely Reichtag fire moment for progressives and they'd make the most of it. Heck, I'm not positive they haven't been attempting to goad us into something as it is.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 04, 2014 02:49 PM (GDulk)

338 Amen; I am not a Catholic but I understand and agree what you're saying which I why I regularly put up quotes from Christian religious thinkers or hymns from my Protestant tradition, and why I repeatedly say we must pray and why I recommend reading and studying Scripture.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 04, 2014 02:52 PM (XyM/Y)

339 Turning the other cheek isn't a very effective solution

I like the forearm block. But I'm a very lousy Christian.

Posted by: DaveA at April 04, 2014 02:54 PM (DL2i+)

340 One aspect of the leftist agenda besides otherizing is normalizing.
Demanding that abnormal, deranged behavior be considered normal.
See the following story about a college transgendered male to female identity who is claiming his/her rights were violated when he/she was stopped from using the women's restroom as security was concerned that a male disguised as a female was attempting to enter a female restroom.

http://tinyurl.com/qhg5kzm

Posted by: Jen at April 04, 2014 03:07 PM (IdGqX)

341 Thank Thomas Sowell for contributing to the "othering" of Ted Cruz. Bewildering.

Posted by: dogfish at April 04, 2014 03:08 PM (nsOJa)

342 Actually a good story involving a college and the 9th Circuit court of appeals.

http://tinyurl.com/ku56cf4

Posted by: Jen at April 04, 2014 03:12 PM (IdGqX)

343 67

I didn't use to think so. I do now. The most amazing thing to me is the Harry Reid - Koch Brothers vilification campaign from a sitting US Senator and Senate Majority leader no less. And it goes day in and day out unchecked. I do not believe it is the rambling of some senile old perv -- well, that and more.

Posted by: gracepmc at April 04, 2014 03:28 PM (rznx3)

344 An unjust society, such as the fellow travelers on the Left, will fight and devour each other because they are inflamed by their passions. The only way to stop this is to unite them against a common enemy. This is the idea of the scapegoat, and has been playing out in history since time immemorial.

There is no reasoning with the Left, because they have rejected reason. All that remains is their unbridled passions, and no matter how much they rage, it will never be "enough." There is no off-button to this other than the Scottish Enlightenment (and you might argue, Judeo-Christianity) as formerly embodied by Western Civilization. It might seem quaint, but there was a time, very recently even, when it was widely understood that those outside the west were barbarians. This is still true, although those willing to state such are demonized now.

For a brief time, we were able to hold back the night of human depravity. The barbarians have always been there, though, and have finally figured out how to take down the gates. It took them about 100 years, but this was the plan all along. It's going to get ugly (much more than now) really soon.

Posted by: Chestertonrocks at April 04, 2014 03:36 PM (SlOex)

345 The Democrats also look down upon the rest of America. They have contempt for everybody. It's not just reserved for people of good standing who manage to earn a high profile, like Ted Cruz or Rush Limbaugh.

Posted by: Gusto Smooth at April 04, 2014 03:38 PM (otQV8)

346 "It makes sense to dehumanize one's enemy in some contexts -- War, of
course, most famously. And for the two to three hours of a sporting
match. Football players, for example, fill their heads with notions of
how their opponents have demeaned them and so on to get some good
warrior game faces on."

Not applicable to baseball, IMO. The other day the Houston Astros honored the Yankees' Derek Jeter in a pregame ceremony (he's retiring this year), and when he came to the plate later the entire team gave him a standing O. It's not uncommon to see players of opposing teams engaging in friendly banter while on base. Different world, I guess.

Posted by: whoever at April 04, 2014 03:48 PM (pjMym)

347
The 18 year olds rebell against their parents becoming slaves of their professors, people who could not possibly compete in brain power to their parents. Sad.

Posted by: burt at April 05, 2014 10:02 AM (1+kJ5)

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