"The Costs of Repeal"

Well, isn't this interesting. Just in the last hour or so, both the official Barack Obama and Organizing for America Twitter accounts have shifted their messaging from touting the benefits and success stories of Obamacare (few as they may be), to scare-whoring the costs of repealing the law.

In addition to that, WhiteHouse.gov put out a pdf bullet-pointing the parade of horribles should the American public decide they want to go this route.

This seems like a pretty significant backpedal. They've also gone to the expense of crunching the numbers (assuming they can be believed anymore than previous estimates) on the costs and interruptions associated with repealing the law at this late date. Not just nationally, but they've done this on a state-by-state basis as well. It appears a lot of time went into this new talking point.

They're also admitting that the law has significant problems:

Moving forward, the President and Democrats in Congress are committed to improving the health care law and fixing it when the need arises. Every day more uninsured Americans are signing up for plans as the website gets faster and more people with insurance are benefiting from the law.

I'm not sure if they're seeing disastrous internal polling or if this is a shot at the increasingly-weak knees of several red state Democrat Senators up for reelection next year, but either way, this is not exactly a position of strength. Repealing our signature law that is creating nationwide disruptions and confusion will likely cause more disruptions and confusion! Sure, run with that. Also, the website will be faster. Huzzah.

If you're explaining, you're losing, as they say.

Posted by: JohnE. at 02:51 PM

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1 Frist?

Posted by: Bosk at December 19, 2013 02:53 PM (n2K+4)

2 I am for pulling out, Babies like this are unwanted.

Posted by: 7 Days in May at December 19, 2013 02:53 PM (j6DTo)

3 Lurkers unite!

Posted by: Bosk at December 19, 2013 02:54 PM (n2K+4)

4 Do you have to build a website to repeal it? That's some cost saving right there.

Posted by: no good deed at December 19, 2013 02:54 PM (HsJeN)

5 no more free lunch if repealed? screw that!

Posted by: oejay44cday at December 19, 2013 02:55 PM (3RFv9)

6 I guess the good news is that someone in the admin may have actually read the bill in order to come up with this list, eh?

Posted by: oejay44cday at December 19, 2013 02:56 PM (3RFv9)

7
parade of horribles, maybe. idioms are sketchy

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 19, 2013 02:57 PM (3ZtZW)

8 Repealing Obamacare means Pajama Boy will have to pay out of pocket next time he gets a Ken doll stuck up his ass.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 19, 2013 02:57 PM (8ZskC)

9 Impeaching Choom Boy would certainly tarnish the halo of being President Historic First©, too.

But it's a cost we could afford, just like the repeal of ChoomCare, and the wholesale removal of the cronies and co-conspirators of the current regime who have bankrupted, de-Constitutionalized and sullied the name of the United States.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 19, 2013 02:57 PM (veRXo)

10 #StopTheBleeding > #CostsOfRepeal

Posted by: Liberty Lover at December 19, 2013 02:57 PM (QGLE3)

11 The line of scrimmage has been moved back to Obama's own goal line and he's got Pajama Boy playing left tackle. Looks pretty fucking grim for the home team.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at December 19, 2013 02:58 PM (IRpZs)

12 You fucked up. You trusted us.

Posted by: Barakhenaten I at December 19, 2013 02:58 PM (IMiDG)

13 If by "committed to improving the health care law and fixing it" they mean "letting Obama do whatever he damn well pleases in implementation and regulation," then yeah, spot on.

Posted by: Hal at December 19, 2013 02:58 PM (MftY/)

14 "hey've also gone to the expense of crunching the numbers (assuming they can be believed anymore than previous estimates) on the costs and interruptions associated with repealing the law at this late date. Not just nationally, but they've done this on a state-by-state basis as well. It appears a lot of time went into this new talking point."

Well nice to know they've been doing *something* Sheesh.

Posted by: MMW at December 19, 2013 02:58 PM (kt/h1)

15 Translation: "We introduced a parasite into your body but you shouldn't have it removed because the operation would be painful. Just let it eat your insides, that's much less trouble."

Posted by: joncelli at December 19, 2013 02:58 PM (RD7QR)

16 Methinks they doth protest too much.

Posted by: Wm. Shakespeare at December 19, 2013 02:59 PM (8ZskC)

17 that whole law about coordinating with non-profits like OFA? That only applies to tea party groups and other non-persons that the GOP has declined to defend from organized crime arms of the DNC

Posted by: oejay44cday at December 19, 2013 02:59 PM (3RFv9)

18 Oh dear, Ethan will be so Krupped over this.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 19, 2013 02:59 PM (Zm0GY)

19 I smell blood.

Posted by: Just A Friendly Shark Minding His Own Business at December 19, 2013 03:00 PM (V9ol4)

20 Even if you don't like your miserable clusterfcuk of a health insurance failure, we're gonna keep this miserable clusterfcuk of a failure.

Posted by: Name Withheld Upon Request at December 19, 2013 03:00 PM (6Nqkf)

21 Of course more uninsured, formerly free Americans are signing up for plans each day, because of this law more formerly free Americans are becoming Uninsured each day!
Unisured Americans today > uninsured Americans before CommieCare!

Posted by: Concealedkerry or SubMitt at December 19, 2013 03:02 PM (vXqv3)

22 Eliminating hydrogen-filled airships now would mean you'll have to swim to America.

Posted by: (Luftschiffbau Zeppelin GmbH at December 19, 2013 03:02 PM (8ZskC)

23 Beat this law to death with a ball-peen hammer and then nuke it from orbit, just to make sure.

Posted by: tcn at December 19, 2013 03:02 PM (fwcEs)

24 The line of scrimmage has been moved back to Obama's own goal line and he's got Pajama Boy playing left tackle.

How can you tell if a jock strap is on the correct way? Lotta fabric in the back, right now.

Posted by: Pajama Boy at December 19, 2013 03:02 PM (6Nqkf)

25 Progressive-socialists are always moving forward because they don't want to dwell on the real reasons for all of their previous costly and deadly failures.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 19, 2013 03:02 PM (Zm0GY)

26 I applaud the president's interest in fixing Obamacare. Naturally, the first step in such a process is to get right of the people who created it...

Posted by: Juan de Hattatime at December 19, 2013 03:03 PM (p7LQY)

27 he means the cost,, to democrats,, of repeal .

Posted by: awkward davies at December 19, 2013 03:03 PM (WK8VM)

28 23
Beat this law to death with a ball-peen hammer and then nuke it from orbit, just to make sure.

Posted by: tcn at December 19, 2013 03:02 PM (fwcEs)

You forgot the "kill it with fire/shoot the ashes out of a cannon" part.

Posted by: joncelli at December 19, 2013 03:03 PM (RD7QR)

29 I sense fear and confusion, an increasingly uncontrollable panic.

Posted by: Lt. Commander Deanna Troi of Starfleet at December 19, 2013 03:03 PM (V9ol4)

30 "11 The line of scrimmage has been moved back to Obama's own goal line and he's got Pajama Boy playing left tackle. Looks pretty fucking grim for the home team.
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at December 19, 2013 02:58 PM (IRpZs) "
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Nice visual. You didn't mention the teamuniform: mom jeans and a bicycle helmet.

Posted by: WisRich at December 19, 2013 03:04 PM (hdpay)

31 And encase the radioactive ash in concrete and then dump in the Challenger Deep.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 19, 2013 03:04 PM (Zm0GY)

32 It strikes me that these talking points are being issued so that when the law is repealed, they can have some "I told you so," moments. Other than that, what is the point?

Posted by: tcn at December 19, 2013 03:04 PM (fwcEs)

33 Considering that Maryland is seriously debating whether to shit-can their own exchange site, which cost them a ton of money and would cost Gov. Martin O'Malley significant face with lefties, I think the scope of the problems is getting through to the White House.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 03:04 PM (/Crba)

34 Blame Republicans for ACA, then pass legislation repealing it while claiming it is "screwing over" the health insurers. Can I be the President now?

Posted by: Progressive Santa Clause at December 19, 2013 03:04 PM (rCS6C)

35 Oh, yeah, sure, the costs to the health insurance industry if Obamacare is repealed are way more than the costs of attempting to comply when the law changes from moment to moment. Totes serious you guys.

Heroin in the eyeball during a board meeting.

Someone who is better that me at that stuff needs to photoshop all of that but for the repeal of Prohibition.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Now with extra taunting. at December 19, 2013 03:04 PM (VtjlW)

36 8 Repealing Obamacare means Pajama Boy will have to pay out of pocket next time he gets a Ken doll stuck up his ass.

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Million to one shot, Doc!

Posted by: Frank Costanza at December 19, 2013 03:04 PM (/Crba)

37 Fuck Obama.

The "cost of repeal" would be at least a marginal return to the citizenry of the ability to live according to those outmoded concepts of Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness (generally defined as not having some fucking government bureaucrat present and taking notes every time you visit your proctologist or gynocologist).

Posted by: Sharkman at December 19, 2013 03:05 PM (TM1p8)

38 So honestly, would repeal raise costs? I kinda think it got effed up so badly that, yes, it would, for a time.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 19, 2013 03:05 PM (3ZtZW)

39 Nice visual. You didn't mention the teamuniform: mom jeans and a bicycle helmet.

For flag football.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 19, 2013 03:06 PM (t+DWU)

40 It's in my nature.

Posted by: The Entitlement Scorpion at December 19, 2013 03:06 PM (GDgxf)

41 Battlespace preparation ... and I would guess that serious consideration to repealing it is being considered. So of course, the administration has to do something.

For myself, the whole ACA is such a horror, likely repealing it is the easier, cheaper, and least-damaging way out - at least when compared to going ahead and trying to fix it as the ooopsies become evident.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at December 19, 2013 03:06 PM (Asjr7)

42

John Boner said that he will do everything within his power to lie about repealing the law, and to make you think he's a staunch rock ribbed bedrock conservative.

We will work with the President to make the law of the land work, but you shouldn't know it.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunnies at December 19, 2013 03:07 PM (xggaJ)

43 You know what fits right in with this new talking point? Greg Sargent had a piece out yesterday: "The GOP Repeal Trap" - let the media collusion continue

Posted by: NeverStops at December 19, 2013 03:07 PM (6Hspk)

44 Cost of repeal will be cheaper than the almost $700 million spent on a web-site and exchanges that don't work.

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 19, 2013 03:07 PM (Zm0GY)

45 Wasting money is what they do best. This is a waste I don't have a problem with and all of a sudden they do.

Posted by: Bosk at December 19, 2013 03:07 PM (n2K+4)

46 Not just lying, not just destructive, but using the apparatus of the state to punish others for doing what they do every day.

Boy, that illusion of law was sure pleasant there, for a while, wasn't it?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 19, 2013 03:08 PM (qyfb5)

47
Fuck it. Im NEVER changing the oil in my car again.

Think of all the MONEY Im saving.

Posted by: fixerupper at December 19, 2013 03:08 PM (nELVU)

48 41
Battlespace preparation ... and I would guess that serious consideration
to repealing it is being considered. So of course, the administration
has to do something.

For myself, the whole ACA is such a horror, likely repealing it is
the easier, cheaper, and least-damaging way out - at least when compared
to going ahead and trying to fix it as the ooopsies become evident.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at December 19, 2013 03:06 PM (Asjr7)

Or they're preparing to say "It would cost X to repeal it, but if we spend X - Y, where Y is a number we just yanked out of our anus, we would fix it and everything would be great, so give us X-Y!"

Posted by: joncelli at December 19, 2013 03:08 PM (RD7QR)

49 Part of the reads like a advertisement for the Republicans.

Posted by: toby928© Texan by birth, Moron by the grace of Ace at December 19, 2013 03:08 PM (QupBk)

50 15 Translation: "We introduced a parasite into your body but you shouldn't have it removed because the operation would be painful. Just let it eat your insides, that's much less trouble."

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We will be going into Fry's body to reach the duodenum and force him to have a bowel movement that will remove all the worms from his body.

This is going to be one hell of a bowel movement. Afterwards he'll be lucky if he has any bones left.

Posted by: Dr. Hubert Farnzworth at December 19, 2013 03:08 PM (/Crba)

51 It appears they spent more effort on this than the website.

Posted by: Brian Boitano at December 19, 2013 03:09 PM (Kkt/i)

52 So honestly, would repeal raise costs? I kinda think it got effed up so badly that, yes, it would, for a time.

I don’t—there are already plans in operation, that were being sold no more than a few weeks ago, that are less expensive and provide more useful services than the exchanges.

The costs on the exchanges and the lack of choice are insane. Compared to that, just about any reform following repeal will be better (Republicans: this is not meant as a challenge).

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at December 19, 2013 03:09 PM (QF8uk)

53 Considering that Maryland is seriously debating whether to shit-can their own exchange site, which cost them a ton of money and would cost Gov. Martin O'Malley significant face with lefties, I think the scope of the problems is getting through to the White House.

That "wall", aka December 31st, is approaching at warp speed.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 19, 2013 03:09 PM (t+DWU)

54 How can you tell if a jock strap is on the correct way? Lotta fabric in the back, right now.

Posted by: Pajama Boy at December 19, 2013 03:02 PM (6Nqkf)
I suspect it's warm and that is not fabric in the back Chitty pants!

Posted by: Concealedkerry or SubMitt at December 19, 2013 03:09 PM (vXqv3)

55 It cost a lot to kick out the British 237 years ago, but boy, was it worth the cost.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 19, 2013 03:09 PM (wtvvX)

56 This would be the perfect time for the proper person/group to run an ad explaining the difference between "conservative" and "liberal" (not strictly in a political sense). "Liberal" = crazy concoction of special interests cooked up in a pot and thrown against the wall to see what sticks. "Conservative" = piecemeal and painstaking examination of each element of the problem and what can be done to resolve it that doesn't make something else worse.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 19, 2013 03:09 PM (k3dAe)

57 People! If you repeal, insurance will only cost a third as much and Washington will go bankrupt!

Posted by: The White House at December 19, 2013 03:09 PM (FcR7P)

58 "If you're explaining, you're losing, as they say."

'bout time the Libtards were on that side of the fence.

Posted by: Janir at December 19, 2013 03:09 PM (pOZma)

59 You need to pass that gas to find out what's in it.

Posted by: akula51 at December 19, 2013 03:10 PM (sKsAS)

60 So, repealing O'care would raise costs, and strip families of insurance?

I don't get it. That's what ACA already does, so what would change?

Posted by: George LeS at December 19, 2013 03:10 PM (r5P5x)

61 Greg Sargent had a piece out yesterday: "The GOP Repeal Trap"

THE Greg Sargent?!

Posted by: toby928© Texan by birth, Moron by the grace of Ace at December 19, 2013 03:10 PM (QupBk)

62

But what will all those pajama clad sexually-indeterminate keyboard jockeys do? Where will they buy their purses and crappy shirts, and what ABOUT THEIR HAIR!!!

DONT YOU CARE!!!!

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunnies at December 19, 2013 03:10 PM (xggaJ)

63

That "wall", aka December 31st, is approaching at warp speed.

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All Barky's horses and all Barky's men can't put this piece of shit back together again.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 03:10 PM (/Crba)

64 "I'm not sure if they're seeing disastrous internal polling or if this is
a shot at the increasingly-week knees of several red state Democrat
Senators up for reelection next year,"
==
Not just Dem senators in red states. ALL Dem senators up for reelection next year. Yeah, and that includes Hawaii.

Posted by: mrp at December 19, 2013 03:10 PM (HjPtV)

65 So honestly, would repeal raise costs? I kinda think it got effed up so badly that, yes, it would, for a time.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 19, 2013 03:05 PM

I agree. Costs would go up...for a week or two.

When the free market sorted out the return to supply/demand and profit/loss issues, freed of the bullshit "adjustments," reckless orders and government controls foisted on us by Choom Boy's regime, costs would drop to pre-ChoomCare levels.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 19, 2013 03:10 PM (veRXo)

66 It appears they spent more effort on this than the website.

Posted by: Brian Boitano at December 19, 2013 03:09 PM (Kkt/i)
And it only cost three times as much as the web site!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at December 19, 2013 03:10 PM (+H/11)

67
>>>Translation: "We introduced a parasite into your body but you shouldn't have it removed because the operation would be painful. Just let it eat your insides, that's much less trouble."

Sometimes it just makes more sense to give your mother the pain pill rather than a new hip.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 19, 2013 03:11 PM (3ZtZW)

68 "Increases of ten percent or more will have to be submitted to a panel of experts."

You know, experts. Brainy types. Tech nerds. Those kind of people.

WHAT?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at December 19, 2013 03:11 PM (659DL)

69 Looks pretty fucking grim for the home team.

Especially when Obama lines up under Pajama Boy and starts calling signals.

Posted by: t-bird at December 19, 2013 03:11 PM (FcR7P)

70 Politics is downstream from culture. And the culture has decided ObamaCare is fucked. Once you started seeing signs made by college students using "supports ObamaCare" as a sick burn, it was inevitable that the law itself was doomed.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 19, 2013 03:12 PM (B/VB5)

71
That's why Charlie Sheen keeps smoking rock. It would cost too much to quit.

Posted by: Dragon Blood sammich at December 19, 2013 03:12 PM (bkTIc)

72 I support a full repeal just to bother libs and obamabots - "the ACA has a lot of good in it, you don't throw it all out or burn the house down because of a few problems" they say, I then LURVE to point out that is exactly what is being done with the current health insurance system, works very well for most people, but its being destroyed, "burned down" if you will, not to provide better care, but to satisfy the ego of democrats

Posted by: chelsea danger at December 19, 2013 03:12 PM (KfDDN)

73 Damn you, Bush!! At long last, sir, is there no limit to your evil influence - none at all?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at December 19, 2013 03:12 PM (TQbuA)

74 Shorter O-min:

We fucked things up so extraordinarily that it would be too costly to clean up!!

#winning.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 19, 2013 03:12 PM (0nxbr)

75 Or, as an arsonist at a theater fire would say, "I got this!"

Posted by: t-bird at December 19, 2013 03:12 PM (FcR7P)

76
Frankly, repealing it now would be enormously expensive and disruptive.

And totally the fault of the democrats, as well.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 19, 2013 03:12 PM (AX3vC)

77 Message: Your betters in government have created a situation where Option A is harmful to the economy, burdensome to personal finances, violative of religious freedom, destructive of medical care choices, intrusive in exposing your personal information to the government, and risky in ensuring that your application for coverage didn't fall down a well.

And Option B is even worse.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 19, 2013 03:13 PM (8ZskC)

78 71
That's why Charlie Sheen keeps smoking rock. It would cost too much to quit.

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Well, if you factored in the damages paid to hookers while he was jonesing...

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 03:13 PM (/Crba)

79
If O-care gets repealed, do all the snot-nosed smarmy kids what voted in TFG get booted off their parent's insurance, like, instantaneously?

Becoz thats fkn cool, if so.

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 19, 2013 03:13 PM (3ZtZW)

80 "Scare-whoring."

Love this.

The Dems have been doing this since the Seventies.

Nixon is going to take Grandma's Social Security!!!1!!

Posted by: Andy Sullivan with Bells On! at December 19, 2013 03:13 PM (RJMhd)

81 In shocking news, the flamboyantly closeted homosexual figure skating champion Brian Boitano officially came out of the closet today. 20 years after everybody already knew he was gay.

He's here! He's queer! And ... everybody has know it for decades ...
..

What would Brian Boitano do
If he was here right now,
He'd make a plan
And he'd follow through,
That's what Brian Boitano'd do.

Posted by: Franch Dressing at December 19, 2013 03:13 PM (ZPrif)

82 Oh, and while we're at it: Repeal ChoomCare and hold Choom Boy and every member of Congress who voted for this shit sandwich personally liable for ever cent wasted on it.

Posted by: MrScribbler at December 19, 2013 03:13 PM (veRXo)

83 "I know I broke yourvase, but you know, it is probably going to be very hard to put that back togetehr.So...at this point...what difference does it make? Can't we all just get along?"

Posted by: Kirk's Gorn at December 19, 2013 03:13 PM (F192H)

84

Paging Dr. Orwell, you'r e wanted in the psych ward.

Paging Dr. Orwell.

You think that bright boy Barry ever read 1984?

I wonder what books the self-proclaimed genius has read, other than magazine articles about himself.

I doubt he's well-read.

Chauncey Gardiner is more well-read than Jug Knight.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunnies at December 19, 2013 03:13 PM (xggaJ)

85 This should really rally the Obama Pajama Korps.

Posted by: t-bird at December 19, 2013 03:13 PM (FcR7P)

86 Looks like repealing it would cost the same as keeping it.

Posted by: Mindy at December 19, 2013 03:14 PM (GRLuN)

87 Five stages of grief, we're into bargaining now?

Posted by: --- at December 19, 2013 03:14 PM (MMC8r)

88 Why don't we just outsource the website to, I dunno, eHealth?

Posted by: Kirk's Gorn at December 19, 2013 03:14 PM (F192H)

89 They don't seem very concerned about those being priced out of the market, which I find kind of curious. I guess those individuals that don't qualify for subsidies but are at low end of the income cutoff don't matter all that much. I'd have to ask if that is considered "fair" to zippy and his acolytes. Doesn't seem fair to me, but then again I'm not wel versed in social justice.

Posted by: boned to the bone at December 19, 2013 03:14 PM (Ph479)

90 I think Ezra Klein was the original model for--

PJ Boy.

Posted by: Andy Sullivan with Bells On! at December 19, 2013 03:14 PM (RJMhd)

91 When Brian Boitano was in the olympics,
Skating for the gold,
He did two salchows and a triple lutz
While wearing a blind fold.

And then 20 years later said he was gaaaaaaay!!!

Posted by: Franch Dressing at December 19, 2013 03:15 PM (ZPrif)

92 I understand completely. We can not repeal this horrible Obamacare law that will destroy our economy because it would cost the government (and taxpayers) to much money.

Posted by: Grimace le Tot at December 19, 2013 03:15 PM (fQfMY)

93

One of the first things you learn in econ is about insurance, and moral hazard, shit like that.

None of these imbeciles know what that is. Or if they do, don't care, just cuz.

We have a country run by the worst people you could pick.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunnies at December 19, 2013 03:15 PM (xggaJ)

94 So, are the democrats going to run on the law next year, or run on repealing it?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 19, 2013 03:15 PM (AX3vC)

95 You know what will fix a years-long history of over-blown claims, incompetence, and lies?

An initial text wall of over-blown claims, incompetence, and lies.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at December 19, 2013 03:15 PM (659DL)

96 I guess I need to start looking for something to do in February when they shitcan this whole motherfucker.

Oh yeah. Never mind.

Smoke and mirrors shall prevail yet again.

Posted by: akula51 at December 19, 2013 03:16 PM (sKsAS)

97 So Ted Cruz was right, Boner and the Rats wrong and now ChoomBoy sees ChoomBoy Impeachment hearings beginning in 2014 with House and Senate securely in feckless, terrorist, tea bagging, jihadi hands come Jan!

Posted by: Concealedkerry or SubMitt at December 19, 2013 03:16 PM (vXqv3)

98 87 Five stages of grief, we're into bargaining now?

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I'm thinking they may have skipped from "anger" straight into "depression".

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 03:16 PM (/Crba)

99 Well they are right. obamacare has fucked has 6 ways to Sunday. Keep it and we are fucked, and repeal it and we are fucked.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 19, 2013 03:16 PM (t3UFN)

100 Enacting the Affordable Care Act raised costs and stripped protections from families across America.

Posted by: Mindy at December 19, 2013 03:16 PM (GRLuN)

101 Five stages of grief, we're into bargaining now?

EXCELLENT.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)-also drooling imbecile incapable of doing algebra or something at December 19, 2013 03:16 PM (659DL)

102

PJ boy looks a lot like Pat from SNL.

Is it a bad thing to have hairy arms and not shave and not be all like folded in on yourself and all cuddly cute and mincing gaily?

Guess it is, according to the gobermint.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunnies at December 19, 2013 03:16 PM (xggaJ)

103 If you like your repeal, you can keep your repeal. You're just going to have to pay more for it.

Posted by: Ezekial Emanuel at December 19, 2013 03:17 PM (wAQA5)

104 So, are the democrats going to run on the law next year, or run on repealing it?

I hope they'll all be fugitives from the law.

Posted by: t-bird at December 19, 2013 03:17 PM (FcR7P)

105
Repealing obamacare would decimate the polar bears.

Posted by: Algore shouting at December 19, 2013 03:17 PM (bkTIc)

106 The deadline for signing up for a health plan is Monday, right?
Probably prepping the battlespace for some bad numbers...
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Also, OFA manages Barack Obama's twitter, Facebook, and BarackObama(dot)com accounts, so it shouldn't be surprising that their messages are in synch. They've had control of them since January, 2013.

WHat's surprising is that OFA has 501c status as a non-partisan organization.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 19, 2013 03:17 PM (ruxvM)

107 Didn't Obama rantabout the need to make this permenant and unrepealable? To forever alter the landscape of health care? Mission accomplished!

Posted by: Kirk's Gorn at December 19, 2013 03:17 PM (F192H)

108
Hey, regime:
You know, a sunk cost argument in a college level business class gets you an "F", right?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 19, 2013 03:17 PM (AX3vC)

109 When the left says "there's a lot of good in (something)," does that ever mean anything but "it gave us power to force people to do what we want?"

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 19, 2013 03:17 PM (qyfb5)

110 When Brian Boitano was in the alps,
Fighting grizzly bears,
He used his magical fire breath,
And saved the maidens fair.

And, also, 20 years later ... said he was gaaaaay ... even though everybody already knew ... how braaaaaave!

Posted by: Franch Dressing at December 19, 2013 03:17 PM (ZPrif)

111 This is just throwing shit against the wall to see what sticks. Touting feel good stories to the faithful, cost of repeal to the heretics.

Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 19, 2013 03:18 PM (WdbF7)

112 Keep it and we are fucked, and repeal it and we are fucked.

Never in the course of human history has the line between malice and incompetence been so successfully blurred.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 19, 2013 03:18 PM (ZKzrr)

113 So administering this monstrosity with the huge bureaucracy required is going to cost less than repeal. Must be more liberal math.

Posted by: boned to the bone at December 19, 2013 03:18 PM (Ph479)

114
Some things are worth paying more for, even if you need to sacrifice for a time. Like shoes, fresh food, quality dentistry...

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 19, 2013 03:18 PM (3ZtZW)

115 Maybe we could just repeal the parts of the law that...um suck? Oh right. It all sucks.

Posted by: Kirk's Gorn at December 19, 2013 03:18 PM (F192H)

116 94
So, are the democrats going to run on the law next year, or run on repealing it?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 19, 2013 03:15 PM (AX3vC)

The evil Republicans FORCED us to pass it! Reelect us so we can stop their nefarious plans!

Posted by: New Dem Talking Point, circa April 2014 at December 19, 2013 03:18 PM (RD7QR)

117 In breaking news, Brian Boitano revealed today that he's secretly an Olympic figure skating champion. And has been for 20 years.

Posted by: Franch Dressing at December 19, 2013 03:19 PM (ZPrif)

118 WHat's surprising is that OFA has 501c status as a non-partisan organization.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 19, 2013 03:17 PM (ruxvM) Hide posts from (ruxvM)

Abuse of power, yes. Surprising, not so much.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 19, 2013 03:19 PM (qyfb5)

119 Something tells me that the phone conversations between the WH and congress haven't been congenial and jovial.

Posted by: Soona at December 19, 2013 03:19 PM (BM7dA)

120 I hope they'll all be fugitives from the law.

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The jig is up the news is out they've finally found me
The renegade who had it made retrieved for a bounty
Never more to go astray
This will be the end today of the wanted man

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 03:19 PM (/Crba)

121 So, are the democrats going to run on the law next year, or run on repealing it?

If they were smart, they'd just run.
And not stop.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 19, 2013 03:19 PM (t+DWU)

122 WHat's surprising is that OFA has 501c status as a non-partisan organization.

The IRS is run by people who worked his campaign. I'm not surprised at all.

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 19, 2013 03:19 PM (ZKzrr)

123 He did two salchows

*****

Was he in Minnesota?

Posted by: Andy Sullivan with Bells On! at December 19, 2013 03:19 PM (RJMhd)

124 "weak knees" not "week knees."

Posted by: InternetPedant at December 19, 2013 03:19 PM (FdjiO)

125 LOL.

This is like if we put tons of research and development into specifically designing Skynet with the knowledge and intent of it becoming a homicidal network of rampaging robotic nightmares and when people actually start being murdered indiscriminately by this self-aware computer, the terribly unpopular architects say:

"Well think about how much it would COST to cancel this project!"

Beyond Parody.

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at December 19, 2013 03:19 PM (tWmgi)

126 They have had the opportunity to vote to fix some of the problems and have refused.

Posted by: ejo at December 19, 2013 03:19 PM (GXvSO)

127 118 In breaking news, Brian Boitano revealed today that he's secretly an Olympic figure skating champion. And has been for 20 years.

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Brian, those chicken wings are really spicy, don't eat those!

Posted by: DVDA at December 19, 2013 03:19 PM (/Crba)

128
Repealing obamacare would drive the cost of birth control to Mentos levels.

Posted by: Sandra Flukemehard at December 19, 2013 03:19 PM (bkTIc)

129

They're gonna help us save money by havin us spend more.

But we can get all these subsidies and stuff, which dont cost nuthin.

We are in good hands.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunnies at December 19, 2013 03:20 PM (xggaJ)

130 8 Repealing Obamacare means Pajama Boy will have to pay out of pocket next time he gets a Ken doll stuck up his ass.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 19, 2013 02:57 PM (8ZskC)

This is why I come here but God help me then there's the nightmares afterwards.

Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 19, 2013 03:20 PM (yICtd)

131 129 Million Americans with pre existing conditions???

I call bullshit.

320 million people... 14% of whom are over 65.... 61% of whom have private insurance...

168 Million under 65 have private health insurance..

So 76% of ALL private insurance folks have a pre existing condition????

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 19, 2013 03:20 PM (lZBBB)

132 Thank you, Phil Robertson!

Posted by: #barackobama at December 19, 2013 03:20 PM (5ikDv)

133 Could Greg Sergeant at WaPo have had advance warning of the new OFA/administration talking points? He has a column out today concern trolling the "Republican Repeal Trap" (whatever that is supposed to be).

Just kidding-- of course the White a house is coordinating with their propaganda minions.

Posted by: MTF at December 19, 2013 03:20 PM (F58x4)

134 The Five Stages of Grief:

1. Denial and Isolation. CHECK!
2. Anger CHECK!
3. Bargaining CHECK!
4. Depression (coming soon)
5. Acceptance (coming soon)

Posted by: B at December 19, 2013 03:20 PM (VC56G)

135 "It appears a lot of time went into this new talking point."

They have all the spaghetti in the world to throw at the fridge. Too bad the electorate ordered veal.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 19, 2013 03:20 PM (eHIJJ)

136 Oh, good to know.

Harry Reid has decided to sign up for 404Care through the DC exchange.

Oh, what's that... even though he makes $193k a year, and is way outside the range a normal person would be at for a subsidy, he's getting one.

Because FU that's why.

Posted by: loves to hate at December 19, 2013 03:20 PM (GDgxf)

137 Are we sure that didn't come out of Boehner's office?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 19, 2013 03:21 PM (LSDdO)

138 126 LOL.

This is like if we put tons of research and development into specifically designing Skynet with the knowledge and intent of it becoming a homicidal network of rampaging robotic nightmares and when people actually start being murdered indiscriminately by this self-aware computer, the terribly unpopular architects say:

"Well think about how much it would COST to cancel this project!"

Beyond Parody.

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I had a guaranteed military sale with ED 209. Renovation program. Spare parts for 25 years.

Who cares if it worked or not?

Posted by: Dick Jones, OCP at December 19, 2013 03:21 PM (/Crba)

139 "The jig is up the news is out they've finally found me...."
Heh, Styx. Kinda fitting since Obama's policy ideas are also decades old.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 19, 2013 03:21 PM (ruxvM)

140 "I, President Obama, can change any part of the law I want, but you, serf, can never, ever repeal it."

Posted by: Kirk's Gorn at December 19, 2013 03:21 PM (F192H)

141
Hey -

maybe they're trying to stir the pot for a real repeal movement so some briliant-er Dem can show up with Teh Single Payer Bill What Saves Us All

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 19, 2013 03:21 PM (3ZtZW)

142 So what would Brian Boitano do
If he were here today,
I'm sure he'd kick an ass or two,
That's what Brian Boitano'd do.

Brian Boitano revealed today that he participated in several Winter Olympics and in unafraid of any possible backlash from the Christianist haters!

Posted by: Franch Dressing at December 19, 2013 03:21 PM (ZPrif)

143

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN AND THEIR TOYS!!!

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunnies at December 19, 2013 03:22 PM (xggaJ)

144 Democrats are explaining why repeal is 'ruinous', and the other major party thinks repeal is impossible.

Clash of the Titans, right here.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 19, 2013 03:22 PM (sv/s3)

145 I know you're asking yourself, Self, Can I afford repeal? Well friends, I'm here to tell you that you can't afford not to buy it! It pays for itself!

Posted by: toby928© Of Crazy Toby's Health-arama at December 19, 2013 03:22 PM (QupBk)

146

Look, we just need to get single-payer going and it's going to be all ok.

Jeezis, are people stupid.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunnies at December 19, 2013 03:22 PM (xggaJ)

147 "Stripping protections from families?" How about families of strippers, stripping? Can we at least do that?

Posted by: Kirk's Gorn at December 19, 2013 03:22 PM (F192H)

148 Turning away from the brick wall would require sustaining considerable tire wear.

Posted by: --- at December 19, 2013 03:22 PM (MMC8r)

149 It all comes down to the same question, over and over. You knew this thing was horribly flawed from the beginning and those flaws were multiplied by the sheer bulk and over-reach of the legislation. If you honestly thought this was going to benefit people, rather than forcing them into a system that gives you greater control over them, why didn't you take an open approach to offering small easily examined bits of legislation for passage? Why was it necessary to have it be all or nothing?

If they cannot honestly answer these questions, then the cost of repeal cannot be higher than the cost of keeping the damn thing. Depending on your interpretation, restoring the nation to the intent of the Constitution would be quite expensive, too. But with $17 trillion and counting of debt what we have is already defining the upper limits of 'expensive.'

Posted by: Epobirs at December 19, 2013 03:23 PM (bPxS6)

150 wages of fear

Posted by: don't scorn reform, but cast out the still born at December 19, 2013 03:23 PM (R6JT1)

151 141 "The jig is up the news is out they've finally found me...."
Heh, Styx. Kinda fitting since Obama's policy ideas are also decades old.

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Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto.

Posted by: Dennis DeYoung at December 19, 2013 03:23 PM (/Crba)

152
Repeal obamacare and say goodbye to midnight basketball.

Posted by: Bent Bill Clinton at December 19, 2013 03:23 PM (bkTIc)

153 But does Obama play wide receiver or tight end?

Yes.
Not in the last 20 years.....

Posted by: rickb223 at December 19, 2013 03:24 PM (t+DWU)

154

It would be a damn shame were their dream team of Ran and Boner have to actually do something other than lie their asses off.

Damned shame, it would be super difficult, I know.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Bunnies at December 19, 2013 03:24 PM (xggaJ)

155 149 "Stripping protections from families?" How about families of strippers, stripping? Can we at least do that?

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...

THE ARISTOCRATS!

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 03:24 PM (/Crba)

156 A repeal is prohibitively expensive. Unending waivers, exemptions and delays are pretty much free.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at December 19, 2013 03:24 PM (IRpZs)

157 Avoiding the iceberg will affect our fuel mileage, Captain!

Posted by: Navigator on the Titanic at December 19, 2013 03:24 PM (MMC8r)

158 >>"Repeal would raise costs, strip protections from families across America"

Hey now, I just heard that "Love is the Best Protection!"

Posted by: Lizzy at December 19, 2013 03:25 PM (ruxvM)

159 Jugears McFuckstick is the Tony Romo of Presidents

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 19, 2013 03:25 PM (wtvvX)

160 Turning away from the brick wall would require sustaining considerable tire wear.

Stolen.

Posted by: Paid for by Citizens for Clyde the Orangutan at December 19, 2013 03:25 PM (QF8uk)

161 5. Um...profit?

Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 19, 2013 03:24 PM (7ObY1)

Seems to be working out for them thus far. Because Brawndo.

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at December 19, 2013 03:26 PM (tWmgi)

162
Two thirds of Americans are temporarily and illegally exempt from this POS, and it is still going down in flames.
Cost? I think restitution from the democrat donors should cover the cost of shutting this monstrosity down.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 19, 2013 03:26 PM (AX3vC)

163
heh. Its kind of like a big admission of the lie about how much Odeathcare was gonna cost.

Of course the retort is that none of those things mentioned in the letter was actually free, there are massive new taxes on all kinds of things, including health care insurance and prescriptions to pay for those "free" things.

Finally, it costs nothing to repeal but a little ink, it costs the whole healthcare system in this country to keep it in place.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 19, 2013 03:27 PM (MaP11)

164 Hey so how many of you have seen President Baller shootin' treys? Best ever, - until he gets bored.

Posted by: Fritz at December 19, 2013 03:27 PM (TKFmG)

165 Executive Summary: The Obama administration is now talking about repealing Obamacare.

Posted by: edj at December 19, 2013 03:27 PM (klzyR)

166 So it's ON THE TABLE, and now we're just haggling over the cost?

Posted by: Tonic Dog at December 19, 2013 03:27 PM (9rNUl)

167 Probably prepping the battlespace for some bad numbers...

I picture them like the teenage boys in 'Weird Science' -- tapped into some super powerful government computer, bras on their heads, waiting for some legion of Kelly LeBrocks to ~~show~~ sign up.

Posted by: Regular Moron at December 19, 2013 03:27 PM (6Nqkf)

168 "The Tony Romo of Presidents"

I don't even follow the NFL that closely and this made me laugh like a lunatic.

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at December 19, 2013 03:27 PM (tWmgi)

169 150
Turning away from the brick wall would require sustaining considerable tire wear.

Posted by: --- at December 19, 2013 03:22 PM (MMC8r)

Congratulations, you nailed it in one.

Posted by: joncelli at December 19, 2013 03:27 PM (RD7QR)

170
And now hospitals and charities are chipping in to pay premiums:
"The idea is that the hospitals (or other providers) would somehow subsidize their patients' premiums in order to make sure they remained insured, and therefore more likely to pay (or have someone pay) their bills."
link: http://preview.tinyurl.com/kt5vogn

Posted by: speedster1 at December 19, 2013 03:28 PM (v40Bj)

171 170 So it's ON THE TABLE, and now we're just haggling over the cost?
Posted by: Tonic Dog at December 19, 2013 03:27 PM (9rNUl)

We always knew Obama was a dirty man-whore.

Posted by: HoboJerky, now with 56% more DOOM! at December 19, 2013 03:28 PM (09o/X)

172 maybe they're trying to stir the pot for a real repeal movement so some briliant-er Dem can show up with Teh Single Payer Bill What Saves Us All
Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 19, 2013 03:21 PM (3ZtZW)

-------------------------------------------------

The single payer law has been already written up and in some dem congressman's office safe for years.

Posted by: Soona at December 19, 2013 03:28 PM (BM7dA)

173 Hmm,no spaces. Again.

Posted by: speedster1 at December 19, 2013 03:28 PM (v40Bj)

174 I will continue to pander to the 18% of Americans that put me in this office in the first place.

Posted by: Prez'nit 404 at December 19, 2013 03:28 PM (Dwehj)

175 This can mean only one thing....PIVOT TO JOBS!

Posted by: OchoBanditosASSEMBLE! at December 19, 2013 03:29 PM (SumQv)

176 Probably prepping the battlespace for some bad numbers...

Geraghty's column last week said 45(!) states were at less than 10% (!) of targets.

That's apocalypse.

Posted by: --- at December 19, 2013 03:29 PM (MMC8r)

177
"I'm thinking they may have skipped from "anger" straight into "depression".

They've been in anger since at least 2000 and Gore v. Bush. Can't be healthy.

Posted by: Lee (in KY) at December 19, 2013 03:29 PM (gVyYO)

178
Do you recall the movie "Around the World in 80 Days", where Phineas Fogg buys the steamship, and burns the cargo and all flammable portions of the ship in order to keep up steam to reach England?
Same thing here, except we are the people expected to pay full price for the steamer once it reaches port.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 19, 2013 03:29 PM (AX3vC)

179
Repealing obamacare would leave our Southern border defenseless.

Posted by: Juan McLame at December 19, 2013 03:29 PM (bkTIc)

180 Repeal would be like Tampon was shot all over again.

Posted by: --- at December 19, 2013 03:30 PM (MMC8r)

181 Speaking of Ken, poor Ken
http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/barbie-serial-killer-10-610x581.jpg

Posted by: Anna Puma (+SmuD) at December 19, 2013 03:30 PM (Zm0GY)

182 Stop whining, peasants.
It's the law.

Why do I have to tell my staff what to do? They keep interfering with my golf game and my Reggie time.

Posted by: Emperor Barack the Magnificent at December 19, 2013 03:30 PM (9qt/T)

183 76
Frankly, repealing it now would be enormously expensive and disruptive.

--

Implementing it is enormously expensive and disruptive.

Posted by: Lady in Black, on iPhone & not responsible for typos at December 19, 2013 03:30 PM (bct5R)

184 If they're floating this, and it's obviously a trial balloon of Hindenburg proportions, the internal polling from the WH must be the equivelant of getting beaten with a pipe wrench. No wonder the National Enquirer is running a story on Ear Leader's "depression".

The next thing you know, he'll be stopping by the Marine Guard at the helicopter entrance and asking for a light...

Posted by: B at December 19, 2013 03:30 PM (VC56G)

185
Short version:

1. I took a gigantic dump on your front lawn.

2. Man, is that going to be hard to clean up! Maybe just leaving it there is a viable option.

Posted by: The Regular Guy at December 19, 2013 03:31 PM (qHCyt)

186 Ethan Krupp aka Pajama Boy:
http://tinyurl.com/l8wgv7y

Posted by: SMFH at it all at December 19, 2013 03:31 PM (6x+VL)

187 #48- Or they're preparing to say "It would cost X to repeal it, but if we spend X - Y, where Y is a number we just yanked out of our anus, we would fix it and everything would be great, so give us X-Y!"
Posted by: joncelli at December 19, 2013 03:08 PM (RD7QR)

Given how Obamacare is screwing us all, I would keep your example but switch X for K. Because we're all going to need some KY for what's coming our direction.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at December 19, 2013 03:31 PM (+/C3g)

188 The single payer law has been already written up and in some dem congressman's office safe for years.

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$10 says noted socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) is the person, considering his aborted attempt to get such a plan voted on during the ObamaCare debate and Reid pulling a procedural fast one to keep the Republicans from having the entire bill read aloud before proceeding.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 03:31 PM (/Crba)

189 Effectuated coverage. Ask any exchange how many people have *actually* effectuated coverage.

Then take two steps back and prepare to LOL.

Posted by: akula51 at December 19, 2013 03:31 PM (sKsAS)

190 154

Repeal obamacare and say goodbye to midnight basketball.

Posted by: Bent Bill Clinton at December 19, 2013 03:23 PM (bkTIc)

Bah. Can't see the basket anyway.

Posted by: Inner City Kid at December 19, 2013 03:31 PM (RD7QR)

191 Teh Five Stages of Good Grief

We asked that that bill not be passed

We said that that law was passed illegally

We tried to repeal that law twice

We tried to get the law struck down

Our fears, having been made real, have been shown to be true

And yet somehow, someway, you think that you can convince us, despite all your KNOWN lies before about this bill, that it will be better to accept this mess than to repeal it and recover and try again?

Now I understand why Valerie Jarrett is taking interviews about how SHE'S not responsible for this mess. HUH UH no way am I the Chief of Staff.

Even Hillary has backed up a bit and claims she'll decide whether or not to run in 2016 later.

So far the only guy taking it on the chin in this admin is John F'n Kerry.

Everyone else is AWOL. (and even Kerry went back to 'Nam. Scene of his LAST triumph)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 19, 2013 03:31 PM (LSDdO)

192 Point being "the cost of repeal of the affordable care act would be steep" for Democrats...

Everyone else? Not so much.

Posted by: Marcus at December 19, 2013 03:31 PM (nVRvy)

193 If they're floating this, and it's obviously a trial balloon of Hindenburg proportions, the internal polling from the WH must be the equivelant of getting beaten with a pipe wrench.

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I think it's saying that The People want to go to work on the Dems with a pair of plyers and a blowtorch.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 03:32 PM (/Crba)

194 REPEAL is the only solution. SCOAMF sees he is no longer trusted and he’s desperate.

Posted by: Carol at December 19, 2013 03:33 PM (z4WKX)

195 11 The line of scrimmage has been moved back to Obama's own goal line and he's got Pajama Boy playing left tackle. Looks pretty fucking grim for the home team.

John Podesta is Tony Romo.

Posted by: AmishDude at December 19, 2013 03:33 PM (Hw3b3)

196 blah blah blah
Bullet Point Bullshit
blame Republicans
OK we're done. Post it.

Posted by: Valerie Jarret at December 19, 2013 03:33 PM (wAQA5)

197 Jugears McFuckstick is the Tony Romo of Presidents
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 19, 2013 03:25 PM (wtvvX)

LEAVE TONY ROMO ALONE!

Posted by: Troy Aikman at December 19, 2013 03:33 PM (VtjlW)

198 #CostsofNOTRepealingACA

- Premium increases of 30% to over 200% for individuals and families
- Deductible increases of 80%- over 200% for everyone
- Up to 1% of annual income in penalties
- Loss of access to your preferred doctors and hospitals
- Loss of access to specialists
- Compounded costs for services that people don't need/ can't use passed on to everyone (more than 50% of the population will NEVER get a mammogram, drug treatment, etc.)
- Birth control used to cost as little as $9/ month without insurance. Now "free" birth control costs as much as $350 per month or more in premiums plus out-of-pocket deductibles of up to $5000 or more for associated doctor's visits and follow ups.
- So far, more than 5 million Americans who had insurance policies that they like and were affordable to them have lost coverage. It is estimated that this will swell to 8 to 12 million people by the end of 2014.

Posted by: Damiano the Economic Traitor at December 19, 2013 03:33 PM (j0wOO)

199 190 Ethan Krupp aka Pajama Boy:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: --- at December 19, 2013 03:33 PM (MMC8r)

200 If this weren't my Country, this would all be funny?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 19, 2013 03:33 PM (t3UFN)

201 I am a little unclear about this. Do Democrats believe we were worse off before the Affordable Care Act?

Isn't that the argument they are trying to make?

Do they really believe the thousands of people losing their plans, doctor choices, medications, treatment options and unable to afford the new premiums and deductibles believe that?

Posted by: Marcus at December 19, 2013 03:33 PM (nVRvy)

202 I saw Parade of Horribles open for GWAR at Summerfest in '87.

Posted by: jakeman at December 19, 2013 03:34 PM (vH4YP)

203 What ever happed to "It's The Law?"

Posted by: Doug at December 19, 2013 03:34 PM (7NE77)

204 We can't stop now? I can hear Meatloaf lyrics:

Stop right there

I gotta know right now

Before we go any further....

I'm praying for the end of time

So I can end my time with you.

Just say no.

Posted by: AE at December 19, 2013 03:34 PM (sSKe8)

205 The Hindenberg Administration.

Posted by: --- at December 19, 2013 03:34 PM (MMC8r)

206 Failures that cost money, even to terminate:
Edsel
New Coke
Prohibition
The Nixon Administration
Vietnam War
ObamaCare (pending)

Posted by: jwpaine @PirateBallerina at December 19, 2013 03:35 PM (2oU2+)

207 About the only move left for Obama is to put a gun to his own head and
yell

Repeal it, and I swear I'll blow this n*gger's head ALL OVER THIS TOWN!!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 19, 2013 03:35 PM (wtvvX)

208 Not shoving another bag of cheetos down my gullet would cost more than actually losing weight.

Posted by: Mallamutt, using OAF Logic to do what he wants at December 19, 2013 03:35 PM (wfk7/)

209 4.4+ Billion wasted on a failed website and *now* they're worried about costs?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 19, 2013 03:35 PM (ruxvM)

210 Repeal obamacare and say goodbye to midnight basketball.

Posted by: Bent Bill Clinton at December 19, 2013 03:23 PM (bkTIc)

Bah. Can't see the basket anyway.

Posted by: Inner City Kid

Might have helped if they'd lit the court.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 19, 2013 03:35 PM (t+DWU)

211 I'm having an existential problem dealing with "..increasingly week.."

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 19, 2013 03:35 PM (aDwsi)

212 This is all over the established GOP sites as well as Fox News. The old meme was, "I support repealing this flawed law." The new meme is, "I support repealing this flawed law but at this point it makes more sense to introduce legislation to make it work."

This is similar to 'Boner saying he supports the Tea Party or Mike Rogers saying that if you don't know your phone calls are being recorded then you haven't been harmed.

I'd like to think the USA isn't over but I think we are already full Banana Republic. You don't come back from that without violence.

Posted by: Daybrother at December 19, 2013 03:36 PM (Gj4R8)

213 208 We can't stop now? I can hear Meatloaf lyrics:

Stop right there

I gotta know right now

Before we go any further....

I'm praying for the end of time

So I can end my time with you.

Just say no.

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Life is a lemon and I want. My. Money. Back. BACK! BACK!!!!!!

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 03:36 PM (/Crba)

214
I don't think their new line is gonna work, too many people's wallets are being pinched deep.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 19, 2013 03:36 PM (MaP11)

215 Cost of repeal? Heh.

No one believes anything this regime puts out anymore. The dems have created an abomination and have no where to hide or scapegoat on this one. Oh, they will try, but the numbers show they are losing their base daily and retribution is coming as long this in place. Dems up for reelection are defecating bricks as they know JEF will not lift a finger.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at December 19, 2013 03:36 PM (fWX8r)

216
Ask not for whom the repeal bell tolls, it tolls for thee.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at December 19, 2013 03:36 PM (HA2Ey)

217 Somebody tell Hairy Reed that those Pediatric Services his plan makes him pay for aren't what he thinks they are.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at December 19, 2013 03:36 PM (qIFL7)

218
Repeal obamacare and Iran gets the bomb.

Posted by: Twirling Dervish at December 19, 2013 03:36 PM (bkTIc)

219 About Pajama boy Ethan Krupp?

Apparently you CAN tell a book by it's cover.

Those pics of him are pretty, well, swishy.

AND he has that sneer plastered on his puss in most of them.

He does have a face that cries out for a fist. (or a fisting?)

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 19, 2013 03:36 PM (LSDdO)

220 Might have helped if they'd lit the court.

Posted by: rickb223
--------------

Can't. Copper wiring stolen.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 19, 2013 03:36 PM (aDwsi)

221 Global warming will definitely occur if we repeal the Affordable Care Act.

Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 03:36 PM (nVRvy)

222 It's wafer thin.

Posted by: toby928© Of Crazy Toby's Health-arama at December 19, 2013 03:37 PM (QupBk)

223 "cost of repeal" assumes that the fact exists that it is very likely to be repealed; that there is strong support for repeal.

Tell me what way the wind is blowing?

Look at this way: If there was strong support against repeal, then the argument would be "look at all these polls opposing repeal."

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 19, 2013 03:37 PM (VjL9S)

224 "Repeal would raise costs, strip protections from families across America."

Guess what, fuckrockets: THAT HAPPENED WHEN THE LAW WENT INTO EFFECT.

I wish I was still amazed that they can proclaim this stuff without bursting into flames as their pants catch fire, but I'm not.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 19, 2013 03:37 PM (4df7R)

225 "The Costs of Repeal"

...Are a lot less than keeping it going.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at December 19, 2013 03:37 PM (MPG6L)

226 The new meme is, "I support repealing this flawed law but at this point it makes more sense to introduce legislation to make it work."

YOU CAN'T *PATCH UP* 2000 PAGES OF LEGISLATION. It's flawed at every point!

Posted by: --- at December 19, 2013 03:37 PM (MMC8r)

227 The economy will get worse if we repeal the Affordable Care Act.

Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 03:37 PM (nVRvy)

228 Life is a lemon and I want. My. Money. Back. BACK! BACK!!!!!!

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:-) That album CD is in my truck CD changer right at this moment.

Posted by: B at December 19, 2013 03:37 PM (VC56G)

229 Not having sex with some skank I just met in the bar would cost more than being faithful to my wife.

Posted by: Mallamutt, using OAF Logic to do what he wants at December 19, 2013 03:38 PM (wfk7/)

230 I think it's saying that The People want to go to work on the Dems with a pair of plyers and a blowtorch.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 03:32 PM (/Crba)

I VOLUNTEER AS TRIBUTE!!!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 19, 2013 03:38 PM (4df7R)

231 211 About the only move left for Obama is to put a gun to his own head and
yell

Repeal it, and I swear I'll blow this n*gger's head ALL OVER THIS TOWN!!

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I beseech thee as a minister to take note of this book and what it has to SAY!

*BLAM*

Son... you're on your own.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 03:38 PM (/Crba)

232 Quantitative Easing will occur if we repeal the Affordable Care Act...whoops.

Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 03:38 PM (nVRvy)

233 The jist of it all? Repeal is definitely on the table now.

Posted by: Soona at December 19, 2013 03:38 PM (BM7dA)

234 233 Life is a lemon and I want. My. Money. Back. BACK! BACK!!!!!!

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:-) That album CD is in my truck CD changer right at this moment.

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Saw him in concert in '93 or '94 during the Bat Out Of Hell II tour in New Orleans.

Cheap Trick opened for him.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 03:39 PM (/Crba)

235 Unemployment will spike if we repeal the Affordable Care Act!

Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 03:39 PM (nVRvy)

236 Man, I can't wait to see Obama's March Madness picks.

Posted by: Everyone Under 26 at December 19, 2013 03:39 PM (tWmgi)

237 I wish I was still amazed that they can proclaim this stuff without bursting into flames as their pants catch fire

No mas pantalones.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 19, 2013 03:39 PM (t+DWU)

238 Record numbers of people will be out of the labor force if we repeal the Affordable Care Act!

Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 03:40 PM (nVRvy)

239 But if we repeal the law, what should all the regulators do with the reams of rules they wrote?

Posted by: edj at December 19, 2013 03:40 PM (klzyR)

240 If you think health insurance is expensive when it is free, wait until you aren't forced to buy it, or something.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 19, 2013 03:40 PM (aDwsi)

241 Repeal, repeal, repeal.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at December 19, 2013 03:40 PM (HVff2)

242 Reid and Pelosi must have told him to dump Obamacare before it kills the Dems in the 2014 election cycle.

Posted by: Registered Voter at December 19, 2013 03:40 PM (Hdbf3)

243 Moving forward, the President and Democrats in Congress are committed to improving the health care law and fixing it when the need arises.

*ragetwitching*

THE NEED HAS ARISEN. THE NEED HAS ARISEN LIKE FUCKING NOSFERATU FROM THE GRAVE. AND YOU CANNOT FIX IT, YOU CAN ONLY STAKE IT THROUGH THE HEART!

I HATE these people!

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 19, 2013 03:40 PM (4df7R)

244 241 Repeal it, and I swear I'll blow this n*gger's head ALL OVER THIS TOWN!!

Now that's some authentic frontier gibberish!

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Anybody gotta dime?!? Somebody's gotta go back and get a SHITLOAD of dimes!

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 03:40 PM (/Crba)

245 It sure seems as if everything in that PDF is a flat-out lie.

Posted by: Null at December 19, 2013 03:40 PM (P7hip)

246 And all the morons

And all the stooges with their coins

They're the ones who make the rules, it's not a game it's just a rout

Posted by: AE at December 19, 2013 03:40 PM (sSKe8)

247 @197 Brandon In Baton Rouge

"I think it's saying that The People want to go to work on the Dems with a pair of plyers and a blowtorch."

I like the cut of your jib.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at December 19, 2013 03:40 PM (fWX8r)

248 Apparently divorce's cost money but people are still getting them. Many people think its worthwhile. It would probably bebetter still if the marriage ceremony wasn't still going on and being fuked up worse every day. Go figure.

Posted by: dirks strewn at December 19, 2013 03:40 PM (kfcYC)

249 Record numbers of people will end up on government assistance if we repeal the Affordable Care Act.

Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 03:41 PM (nVRvy)

250
Repealing obamacare just gives IRS agents more time to screw over the Tea Party.

Posted by: John 4hr Bohner at December 19, 2013 03:41 PM (bkTIc)

251 Oh noes! Those 16,000 new IRS agents (which as far as I can tell aren't doing anything) will be jobless.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 19, 2013 03:41 PM (aDwsi)

252 190 Ethan Krupp aka Pajama Boy

I can't tell for sure because the video is kinda blurry, but it sure looks like he drives a Subaru. And we all know what that means.

Posted by: jakeman at December 19, 2013 03:42 PM (vH4YP)

253 Isn't this like me saying to my wife, "Hey, that gravy boat shaped like a dick we bought last year shouldn't be thrown out 'cause we spent a lot of money for it!"?
At least repealing it will be a one time cost. Keeping it is a gift that keeps on costing.

Posted by: Nick Shaw at December 19, 2013 03:42 PM (9Xn+t)

254 If we repeal the Affordable Care Act, people with life-threatening illnesses will lose their coverage.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 19, 2013 03:42 PM (4df7R)

255 The cost of repeal slide was probably written into the law.

Posted by: Mega at December 19, 2013 03:42 PM (hHFOx)

256 Our status as the best health care provider in the world will be threatened if we repeal the Affordable Care Act.

Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 03:42 PM (nVRvy)

257 Holidays sales records:
Guns Up
Ammo Up
Pitchforks Up
Torches Up
Rat Pizza sales in Rat home Districts WAY DOWN!

Posted by: Concealedkerry or SubMitt at December 19, 2013 03:42 PM (vXqv3)

258 Bus crash in Nutley NJ on RT 3?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 19, 2013 03:42 PM (t3UFN)

259 222 I live in my parents' basement, and I like Ikea, bacon, Miley Cyrus, chick flicks and pointing at random things.

No fucking way.

No fucking way *that one* likes bacon.

Just no fucking way.

Posted by: akula51 at December 19, 2013 03:42 PM (sKsAS)

260 If we repeal the Affordable Care Act, families will see their premiums and deductibles skyrocket.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 19, 2013 03:42 PM (4df7R)

261 248 Reid and Pelosi must have told him to dump Obamacare before it kills the Dems completely

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Fixed.

Much like 2010, the issue isn't just the 2014 races in general as much as what it means for the party as a going concern.

2010 screwed them big time because it threw a ton of state legislatures and Governor's mansions to the Republicans, meaning that redistricting was done by Republican-controlled entities.

2014 would probably help wipe out a generation of Dem politicians, which they sorely need considering that the Dem "leadership" tends to be a bunch of fucking zombies who are 70 or older and have been in DC since the 60s.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 03:42 PM (/Crba)

262 265 222 I live in my parents' basement, and I like Ikea, bacon, Miley Cyrus, chick flicks and pointing at random things.

No fucking way.

No fucking way *that one* likes bacon.

Just no fucking way.

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He don't eat meat but he sure likes the bone.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 03:43 PM (/Crba)

263 Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 19, 2013 03:40 PM (4df7R)

You will also, of course, recall that it was paramount that we pass Obamacare so we could find out what was in it.

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at December 19, 2013 03:43 PM (tWmgi)

264 Oh. That whatnow.

Posted by: toby928© Of Crazy Toby's Health-arama at December 19, 2013 03:43 PM (QupBk)

265
Brian Boitano gay? Who knew?

Posted by: Greg Louganis at December 19, 2013 03:43 PM (pJF+c)

266 If we repeal the Affordable Care Act, you won't be able to keep your plan!

Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 03:43 PM (nVRvy)

267 Balcony has collapsed in the Apollo in London?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 19, 2013 03:43 PM (t3UFN)

268 Win elections, you teatards! WIN ELECTIONS!

Posted by: Hollowhead at December 19, 2013 03:43 PM (YmPwQ)

269 If we repeal the Affordable Care Act, you will lose your choice of doctors!

Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 03:43 PM (nVRvy)

270 But if we repeal the law, what should all the regulators do with the reams of rules they wrote?
Posted by: edj at December 19, 2013 03:40 PM (klzyR)

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And what about all those IRS agents we hired. Those people have families too. Do you want them to be homeless?

Posted by: Soona at December 19, 2013 03:43 PM (BM7dA)

271 If we repeal the Affordable Care Act, the average American's range of insurance options will dwindle, coverage networks will shrink, and doctors will shutter their practices because of the low reimbursements they receive.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 19, 2013 03:44 PM (4df7R)

272 If you repeal Obamacare then I'll have to have sex with Michele. I mean, how can you have that on your conscience?

Posted by: Your President, All Shaky at December 19, 2013 03:44 PM (RD7QR)

273 If we repeal the Affordable Care Act, you will never know "what's in it".

Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 03:44 PM (nVRvy)

274 me thinks thou doth protest too much.

Posted by: the amazing cult of kool aid at December 19, 2013 03:44 PM (eQZZW)

275 You will also, of course, recall that it was paramount that we pass Obamacare so we could find out what was in it.
Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at December 19, 2013 03:43 PM (tWmgi)

Of course!

And now we've found out.

And we don't like it.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 19, 2013 03:44 PM (4df7R)

276 275 Balcony has collapsed in the Apollo in London?

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I ain't cleanin' that shit up!

Posted by: Zombie Sandman at December 19, 2013 03:45 PM (/Crba)

277 274 It's turkey bacon.

That one probably uses it as a scoop for its' hummus.

Posted by: akula51 at December 19, 2013 03:45 PM (sKsAS)

278 Posted by: akula51 at December 19, 2013 03:42 PM (sKsAS)

He likes bacon as a Buzzfeed meme. Not the actual food that evil corporate farming operations sell for their cruel Gaia-murdering blood money.

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at December 19, 2013 03:45 PM (tWmgi)

279 Sorry folks. the Unaffordable Care Conscription Act is THE LAW. No dodging this draft; no burning your insurance bill; no running away to Canada for single payer. You have been drafted and your ass and cash now belong to Uncle Sam. Bow down meekly and kiss the sandals of THE ONE.

Posted by: losthusker at December 19, 2013 03:45 PM (qergu)

280 Moving forward, the President and Democrats in Congress are committed to improving the health care law and fixing it when the need arises.
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Same thing the Dutch said about Krakatoa.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 19, 2013 03:45 PM (aDwsi)

281 We're going to win this thing. Obamas sheer ineptitude is going to turn this huge loss into a win.

Posted by: SH at December 19, 2013 03:45 PM (F1lOF)

282
If the ACA is repealed, what will happen to us?

Posted by: The Navigator's at December 19, 2013 03:45 PM (pJF+c)

283 * Repealing this law would be a kick in the gut to hard working families of supporters of the suppression of individual liberty.

Posted by: Mega at December 19, 2013 03:45 PM (hHFOx)

284 238
The jist of it all? Repeal is definitely on the table now.

Posted by: Soona

That's how I see it. Those secret internal polls both sides run must have Duh!1 so low he's in the Labrea tar pits.

Posted by: backhoe at December 19, 2013 03:45 PM (ULH4o)

285 If we repeal the Affordable Care Act, no more free birth control! Oh the humanity!

Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 03:46 PM (nVRvy)

286 O/T
That Fat NJ Fool is signing law for Dreamers! He will never be GOP Nominee!

NJ is showing how to come to bipartisan agreement to benefit all in the state!

Posted by: Carol at December 19, 2013 03:46 PM (z4WKX)

287 The costs of repeal....

1) a free market

2) control of your medical destiny

3) no ability for the democrats to punitively use health as another arrow in the quiver....

yeah downside Ogabe?

Fuck you I am not seeing it.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 19, 2013 03:46 PM (9jfyN)

288 290
If the ACA is repealed, what will happen to us?

Posted by: The Navigator's at December 19, 2013 03:45 PM (pJF+c)

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The spice must flow!

Posted by: Emperor Barack IV at December 19, 2013 03:46 PM (/Crba)

289 They must be getting their asses handed to them in a D +12 poll.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 19, 2013 03:46 PM (AX3vC)

290 >>And what about all those IRS agents we hired. Those people have families too. Do you want them to be homeless?

Yes.
Or in jail, if they've participated in using their position to harass taxpayers whose point of view they don't like.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 19, 2013 03:47 PM (ruxvM)

291
If ACA is repealed, it will severely limit my sexual awakening.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at December 19, 2013 03:47 PM (pJF+c)

292 My name is Ethan, I live in my parents' basement, and I like Ikea, bacon, Miley Cyrus, chick flicks and pointing at random things. I've never kissed a boy but I'd like to try. Call me, m'kay?
Posted by: BlueStateRebel at December 19, 2013 03:36 PM (7ObY1)

The "m'kay" is all the proof you need to know the guy's a colossal douche. No one says (let alone writes) "m'kay" unless they're
A) Being deliberately snarky, or
B) A douche

Frequently the two overlap.

Why am I unsurprised he likes Miley Cyrus and chick flicks? I can't stand either.

I knew an Ethan in grade school. The guy was a total dick and a loser. This guy? Doesnt' even rate on the dick scale, but definitely a loser.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 19, 2013 03:47 PM (4df7R)

293 280 If you repeal Obamacare then I'll have to have sex with Michele.

I fail to see the logical connection Mr. President.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 19, 2013 03:47 PM (ZBjRZ)

294 This must be some new sort of "red line"

Heh

Posted by: Thunderb at December 19, 2013 03:47 PM (zOTsN)

295 293 If we repeal the Affordable Care Act, no more free birth control! Oh the humanity!

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More like "Oh, the huge manatee!"

Posted by: Sandy Fluke's Roast Beef Lips at December 19, 2013 03:47 PM (/Crba)

296 8 Cicero (@cicero) at December 19, 2013 02:57 PM (8ZskC)

Cicero I salute you.

My presence here is not needed I yield back the balance of my time.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 19, 2013 03:48 PM (9jfyN)

297 I have to wonder if we should run an ad next year for the LIVs that simply shows Obama insisting the ACA would save EVERYONE $2500 a year and then just text that reads "Where's your extra $2500?"

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at December 19, 2013 03:48 PM (tWmgi)

298 'Time to stop refighting old political political battles'

How about we fight the political battles with The TRUTH as a starting point, not 'You can keep everything the same, plus its less money' political arguement used in the last fucking battle? Hmmmm? Don't the American people deserve to have The TRUTH to make an informed decision? Even with the lies, it was never popular you fucking fuckity fuck fuck. Spit

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at December 19, 2013 03:48 PM (9Bdcz)

299 301 Bevel Lemelisk at December 19, 2013 03:47 PM (ZBjRZ)

Run Barack Run!

//Obi-Wan Jarret

Posted by: sven10077 at December 19, 2013 03:48 PM (9jfyN)

300 If ACA is repealed, I may die a virgin.

Posted by: Sandra Fluke 2 at December 19, 2013 03:48 PM (klzyR)

301 If we repeal the Affordable Care Act, Julia will have to whore herself out to pay for health care.

Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 03:49 PM (nVRvy)

302 I see this as battlefield prep for single-payer. "So, you don't like Obamacare, eh? Why, it would be much too expensive and painful to go back to the old system, particularly since we destroyed it. I know, why don't we just go for single-payer? Much simpler and cheaper, and I know you would all love it!"

Mark my words.

Posted by: JPowell at December 19, 2013 03:49 PM (+SXXg)

303 When I get in it's gonna be a felony to not sign up. We're going to take all your stuff and put your ass in jail if you don't help the revolution.

Posted by: HillaryCare II at December 19, 2013 03:49 PM (JKrHx)

304 305 I have to wonder if we should run an ad next year for the LIVs that simply shows Obama insisting the ACA would save EVERYONE $2500 a year and then just text that reads "Where's your extra $2500?"

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Or, alternatively, "What's in YOUR wallet?" if Capital One doesn't own rights to that phrase.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 03:49 PM (/Crba)

305
If the ACA is repealed, what will the little people do for healthcare?

Posted by: Ashley Judd and her Puffy Cooter at December 19, 2013 03:49 PM (pJF+c)

306 The Democrats coild learn a lot from Republicans on this. They should just say repeal isn't politically possible right now, but maybe after the next election.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 19, 2013 03:49 PM (ZBjRZ)

307 If the ACA is repealed, what will happen to us? Posted by: The Navigator's at December 19, 2013 03:45 PM (pJF+c)

Pursue opportunities with the Soylent Green corporation.

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 19, 2013 03:49 PM (4df7R)

308 So the Megyn Kelly and Duck Dynasty diversions haven't been able to drawa attention away from ObamaCare's myriad failures and now they are falling back on the old "If I go down, you do down with me," claim?

That's what a hostage taker does, Mr. Obama. One who is trying desperately to salvage something out of a debacle.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at December 19, 2013 03:49 PM (hLRSq)

309 If we repeal the Affordable Care Act, a record number of STD's will occur.

Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 03:50 PM (nVRvy)

310 I can see the headlines now:

Possible ObamaCare Repeal
Sandra Fluke Hardest Hit

Posted by: B at December 19, 2013 03:50 PM (VC56G)

311 Single payer? Wow! That sounds like a great idea!

Posted by: The GOP at December 19, 2013 03:50 PM (hHFOx)

312 I HATE these people!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 19, 2013 03:40 PM (4df7R)

I have blown through the HATE zone and am coasting in the quiet tidal pool of contemplation of various plans of revenge.

So far I'm up to plan Z.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 19, 2013 03:50 PM (LSDdO)

313 "If I go down, you go down with me,"

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Barry's used that one on Reggie for years unsuccessfully.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 03:50 PM (/Crba)

314 This looks like the work of some scared Dim Senate side staffers, it's this or work on their resumes.

Posted by: Jean at December 19, 2013 03:51 PM (4JkHl)

315 I think they will have a very very hard time selling single payer

Posted by: Thunderb at December 19, 2013 03:51 PM (zOTsN)

316 If we repeal the Affordable Care Act, I won't be charged with felony tax evasion for not having health care coverage.

Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 03:51 PM (nVRvy)

317
If the ACA is repealed, both Uncle Oscar and Aunt Zeutini will suffer immensely, and that's not fair to these great Americans.

Posted by: Michelle O'Bama at December 19, 2013 03:51 PM (pJF+c)

318 Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 03:49 PM (/Crba)

Heh. I like it.

Also, while the Sandra Fluke jokes are funny, the Dems WILL get desperate enough to use repeal efforts as undeniable proof of the GOP War On All The Wymynz

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at December 19, 2013 03:51 PM (tWmgi)

319 The Ocare website will be turned into a dating site for those having an EBT card.

Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 19, 2013 03:51 PM (yICtd)

320 yeah downside Ogabe?
Fuck you I am not seeing it.

The Little Sisters of the Poor won't have to buy health insurance that covers abortions for the nuns. They can use the money they save to help the poor; SCOAMF and his cronies/handlers will lose some of their power over the poor if they know they don't need the gov't to get a meal.

Can't let that happen, now, can they?

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 19, 2013 03:51 PM (ZKzrr)

321 That's what a hostage taker does, Mr. Obama. One who is trying desperately to salvage something out of a debacle.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Death Capades - ObamaCare on Ice! Sponsored by the Outrage Outlet at December 19, 2013 03:49 PM (hLRSq)

"Shoot the hostage."

"What?"

"Take her out of the equation. Go for the good wound. He can't get to the plane with her."

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 19, 2013 03:51 PM (4df7R)

322 Not only are musicals an awful thing, they're killing people now:

Eyewitnesses say balcony collapse at Apollo Theatre in central London during performance has trapped people - @BBCBreaking

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 19, 2013 03:51 PM (0nxbr)

323 Possible ObamaCare Repeal
Sandra Fluke Hardest Hit

Posted by: B
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Coffee spew..

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 19, 2013 03:51 PM (aDwsi)

324 They found pajamaboy. He's Ethan Krupp and he's been busy deleting his social media.

Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 19, 2013 03:52 PM (h4eud)

325 If we repeal the Affordable Care Act, John Boehner will cry.

Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 03:52 PM (nVRvy)

326 Let them try to enact single payer. They had the opportunity. This thing is going to get repealed.

Posted by: SH at December 19, 2013 03:52 PM (F1lOF)

327 If Obamacare is repealed, my name isn't going to be on anything I've done.

Posted by: Baraka--my thumb tastes good at December 19, 2013 03:52 PM (BM7dA)

328 333 If we repeal the Affordable Care Act, John Boehner will cry.

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If we ring the bell for last call, he'll cry.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 03:53 PM (/Crba)

329 Possible ObamaCare RepealSandra Fluke Hardest Hit
Posted by: B at December 19, 2013 03:50 PM (VC56G)

Is it possible to hit Sandy Fluke hard, with a vagina that loose?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 19, 2013 03:53 PM (4df7R)

330 There's a photo online of Ethan Krupp in a baseball cap -- looks like a normal American kid.

They sure dorkified him for the ACA ad.

Posted by: edj at December 19, 2013 03:53 PM (klzyR)

331 That's awful!

There would be loads of tourists going to theater now, and I think kids are done with exams

Posted by: Thunderb at December 19, 2013 03:53 PM (zOTsN)

332 328 HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 19, 2013 03:51 PM (ZKzrr)

What bothers me is this whole raging clusterfuck inferno has taught me there are no heroes in healthcare or the Govt.

If Doctors were smart they would say "fuck this and fuck insurance" and let real market forces take over.

The fact is the entire health insurance healthcare subsidy biz is a perpetual motion payola machine.

My heart is breaking.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 19, 2013 03:54 PM (9jfyN)

333 330 Not only are musicals an awful thing, they're killing people now:

Eyewitnesses say balcony collapse at Apollo Theatre in central London during performance has trapped people - @BBCBreaking

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Was Great White playing there by some odd coincidence?

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 03:54 PM (/Crba)

334 319
Single payer? Wow! That sounds like a great idea!

Posted by: The GOP at December 19, 2013 03:50 PM (hHFOx)

Sadly, we'll likely arrive at single payer simply because the GOP still doesn't have an answer to the erroneous question of "Well What's Your Alternative?!"

Those asking the question will conveniently forgotten that they're the serial arsonists that set the fire.

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at December 19, 2013 03:54 PM (tWmgi)

335 >>>AND he has that sneer plastered on his puss in most of them.

It's not a sneer. It's my doody-in-my-PJ's face. Cuz mommy will wipe my butt.

Posted by: Pajama Boy who can't stomach the cocoa at December 19, 2013 03:54 PM (wAQA5)

336 If we repeal the Affordable Care Act, John Boehner will rant and blame the Tea Party.

Posted by: Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 03:54 PM (nVRvy)

337 Is it possible to hit Sandy Fluke hard, with a vagina that loose?

Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 19, 2013 03:53 PM (4df7R)

I'd wrap my dick in bubble pack first.

Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 19, 2013 03:54 PM (yICtd)

338 They found pajamaboy. He's Ethan Krupp and he's been busy deleting his social media.
Posted by: Dr. Jesse Pinkman at December 19, 2013 03:52 PM (h4eud)

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Heh. Now that's funny.

Posted by: Baraka--my thumb tastes good at December 19, 2013 03:54 PM (BM7dA)

339
If the ACA is repealed, I'll be forced to return to flat-backing for a living, and that's not a pleasant thought, especially with clients like #9.

Posted by: Ashley Dupre at December 19, 2013 03:55 PM (pJF+c)

340 There's a photo online of Ethan Krupp in a baseball cap -- looks like a normal American kid.

***

That's not helping as much as you think...
:-)

Posted by: B at December 19, 2013 03:55 PM (VC56G)

341 Enjoy the the chaos because the common sense will be terrible.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 19, 2013 03:55 PM (E+uky)

342 337 Possible ObamaCare RepealSandra Fluke Hardest Hit
Posted by: B at December 19, 2013 03:50 PM (VC56G)

Is it possible to hit Sandy Fluke hard, with a vagina that loose?
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 19, 2013 03:53 PM (4df7R)

We just had a whole thread on the anus ...

Posted by: Jean at December 19, 2013 03:55 PM (4JkHl)

343 It's my doody-in-my-PJ's face. Cuz mommy will wipe my butt.

Posted by: Pajama Boy who can't stomach the cocoa at December 19, 2013 03:54 PM

...and its fun and then I love mommy.

Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 19, 2013 03:55 PM (yICtd)

344 Palate cleanser.
http://is.gd/phcnTr

Posted by: HeatherRadish™ needs a beer at December 19, 2013 03:55 PM (ZKzrr)

345

"Repeal" ?

Shouldn't that be "Yeah, we drove the car into the ditch, but we need you to get it back out."?

I'd help, but my hands are full, holding my slurpee ...

Posted by: Arbalest at December 19, 2013 03:56 PM (FlRtG)

346 If we repeal the Affordable Care Act Sandra will no longer Fluke for free.

Posted by: Marcus, Now The Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 03:56 PM (nVRvy)

347 he drives a Subaru. And we all know what that means.

Posted by: jakeman at December 19, 2013 03:42 PM (vH4YP)

He's really Rachel Maddow?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 19, 2013 03:56 PM (LSDdO)

348 My wife and I had to help my father-in-law sign up for coverage last night. The website was actually working.

I spent about two hours comparing plans. Here are my thoughts based on my experience.

People who qualify for significant subsidies are going to be totally hooked on Obamacare. Everybody else is screwed.

My father-in-law qualified for a $544.00 a month subsidy (divorced, small income, single). He is choosing between an Aetna or Blue Cross plan that will cost him between $0 to $100 a month out of pocket. He can get a pretty good plan with a $3,500 deductible for about $45 a month.

Guys like my father-in-law will benefit greatly from Obamacare. People in the middle to upper-middle class will be totally screwed because they will need to pay far more in order to make selling insurance to poor people profitable.

Posted by: stickety at December 19, 2013 03:56 PM (+Vm+w)

349 We just had a whole thread on the anus ...

***

And you better believe I'm tired...

Posted by: The Chicken at December 19, 2013 03:57 PM (VC56G)

350 Does anyone know what Flannel Boy's major was?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 19, 2013 03:57 PM (aDwsi)

351 355 Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 19, 2013 03:56 PM (LSDdO)

She's his wife Chris Hayes....

Posted by: sven10077 at December 19, 2013 03:57 PM (9jfyN)

352 Ha!
$1 trillion + deficits 4 out of the 5 years Obewankenobes' been in office and now he's a concern troll about spending money, embrace the suck you SCOAMF.

Posted by: the amazing cult of kool aid at December 19, 2013 03:57 PM (eQZZW)

353 >There's a photo online of Ethan Krupp in a baseball cap -- looks like a normal American kid. <

Yes, because nothing says normal like a male wearing some chicks feety pajamas.

Posted by: Marcus, Now The Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 03:57 PM (nVRvy)

354 Sleezeball sock off

Posted by: Soona at December 19, 2013 03:58 PM (BM7dA)

355 The old, "This plan is a duplicate of the Massachusetts Republican plan designed by the Heritage foundation and pushed through by those Tea Bagger terrorists" talking points don't seem to be getting any traction.

Posted by: Daybrother at December 19, 2013 03:58 PM (OpqT8)

356
"Repeal would raise costs, strip protections from families across America."

Don't call his bluff, America

Posted by: Bigby's Knuckle Sammich at December 19, 2013 03:58 PM (3ZtZW)

357 358 Does anyone know what Flannel Boy's major was?

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 19, 2013 03:57 PM (aDwsi)

Seriously. gay and Lesbian studies. oh, and drama.

Posted by: Guido - 'now with 75+% more hate' at December 19, 2013 03:58 PM (yICtd)

358 353

"Repeal" ?

Shouldn't that be "Yeah, we drove the car into the ditch, but we need you to get it back out."?

I'd help, but my hands are full, holding my slurpee ...

---

A party with some balls would hold Barry's feet to the fire to get some concessions on unrelated matters as part of repealing this clusterfuck.

So, obviously, Boehner will roll over in about 30 seconds.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at December 19, 2013 03:58 PM (/Crba)

359 Reminds me of the guy who "borrowed" my car I'd stowed with him and went and burned out the clutch.

Comes to me after a couple months says his landlord bugging him to get rid of the car and he can't afford to have it towed.

I says "So?"

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 19, 2013 03:59 PM (LSDdO)

360

Oh, good to know.

Harry Reid has decided to sign up for 404Care through the DC exchange.

Oh,
what's that... even though he makes $193k a year, and is way outside
the range a normal person would be at for a subsidy, he's getting one.

Because FU that's why.

Posted by: loves to hate at December 19, 2013 03:20 PM (GDgxf)

He's a Nevada resident, or he's supposed to be. Why is he signing up through the DC exchange?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 19, 2013 03:59 PM (TIIx5)

361 Captioned dialogue for pajama boy;

PJ: Hey, who dunked their johnson on my coffee?

Dude: How do you know someone did that?

PJ: Ummmm

Posted by: Marcus, Now The Dissembling Cause and Effect Man at December 19, 2013 04:00 PM (nVRvy)

362 360 the amazing cult of kool aid at December 19, 2013 03:57 PM (eQZZW)

You know fuck it....

maybe we should out retard populist the fuckers and get our Mirror Universe John Boehner on....

hey America trillion dollar deficits don't bother you and you want free shit?

Have I got a deal for you divide a trillion by 300 million and you get

3333 and a third.

So elect me and I will cut you a 3400 dollar check....

Posted by: sven10077 at December 19, 2013 04:00 PM (9jfyN)

363 he drives a Subaru. And we all know what that means.

Posted by: jakeman at December 19, 2013 03:42 PM (vH4YP)

Hey now... All Subaru ever did was make a quality automobile. It's not their fault a certain demographic is particularly drawn to them.

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at December 19, 2013 04:01 PM (tWmgi)

364 RINO pee is not good for the rug.

Here it comes anyway.

Posted by: eman at December 19, 2013 04:02 PM (EWsrI)

365 If we repeal the Affordable Care Act people will have to confess their gun collection to a stranger instead of their doctor!

Posted by: AE at December 19, 2013 04:02 PM (sSKe8)

366 He can get a pretty good plan with a $3,500 deductible for about $45 a month. Guys like my father-in-law will benefit greatly from Obamacare. People in the middle to upper-middle class will be totally screwed because they will need to pay far more in order to make selling insurance to poor people profitable.
Posted by: stickety at December 19, 2013 03:56 PM (+Vm+w)

----------------------------------------------------

He's a low-income old man with a deductable of $3500 and you're calling this a good plan? My parents weren't poor, but just the deductable would have wrecked them financially.

Posted by: Soona at December 19, 2013 04:03 PM (BM7dA)

367 Is Subaru like the Volkswagen "Phony" Beetle?

With a vase on the dash board?

There's a car that says WOMYN

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That (Unexpurgated Edition) at December 19, 2013 04:03 PM (LSDdO)

368 he drives a Subaru. And we all know what that means.

Posted by: jakeman at December 19, 2013 03:42 PM (vH4YP)

Hey now... All Subaru ever did was make a quality automobile. It's not their fault a certain demographic is particularly drawn to them.

There are always exceptions to the rule, of course. Methinks Widdle Ethan ain't one of 'em.

Posted by: jakeman at December 19, 2013 04:05 PM (vH4YP)

369 Sherman, set the Wayback Machine for 2008.

Posted by: Mr. Peabody at December 19, 2013 04:06 PM (wAQA5)

370 Sadly, we'll likely arrive at single payer simply because the GOP still doesn't have an answer to the erroneous question of "Well What's Your Alternative?!"

Not true. There is an alternative and a large number of (R)'s have signed on to supporting it. An explanation of the highlights is in a two page pdf file I found at Tammy Bruces twitter feed.

I'm not supporting it, because it does not give me the option I want. Which is pay very little money, get maximum coverage.

Posted by: Regular Moron at December 19, 2013 04:08 PM (6Nqkf)

371 There are always exceptions to the rule, of course. Methinks Widdle Ethan ain't one of 'em.

Posted by: jakeman at December 19, 2013 04:05 PM (vH4YP)

True. For the record, I don't work for Subaru or anything. I just think the BRZ is a particularly fine car.

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at December 19, 2013 04:09 PM (tWmgi)

372 I HATE these people!
Posted by: MWR, Proud Tea(rrorist) Party Assault Hobbit at December 19, 2013 03:40 PM (4df7R)

*pets hair soothingly*

Here. Since you're on the Dark Side, you can have these blondies. *sprays extra whipped cream on them*

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD. Mmmm. Blondies with whipped cream. at December 19, 2013 04:09 PM (VtjlW)

373 We're going to win this thing. Obamas sheer ineptitude is going to turn this huge loss into a win.
Posted by: SH at December 19, 2013 03:45 PM (F1lOF)

We can never win by relying on the ineptitude of our opponents. We can exploit their ineptitude (and other glaring weaknesses)when the opportunity presents itself, but even that alone won't do the trick. To win, we need to push our positives. Either our ideas are better than theirs, or they're not. We need that conviction or we'll always, invariably, inevitably lose.

Besides, they have the media. Ineptitude isn't an exploitable flaw if no one knows about it. People still think Bush is responsible for the economy.

Posted by: troyriser at December 19, 2013 04:10 PM (V9ol4)

374 Every librarian in Vermont owns a Subaru. It's a fashion statement. It's the Volvo of the 21st century. Those people think they have a great car, but they don't know why, except that their friends (who know nothing about automobiles either) like them.

Next time you meet a Subaru owner, ask them how much it costs for the mandatory cam belt replacement.

When they talk about how great it is in the snow, ask them if they've had the experience of being stuck in the snow.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 19, 2013 04:12 PM (aDwsi)

375 129 million americans with preexisting conditions?

Posted by: avi at December 19, 2013 04:17 PM (kcF49)

376 Subaru has solid lifters. Worth ten horse or so, and "allows" you to learn how to do something important to your engine. Not that it's much of an issue with modern finicky motors, but it also means the valves won't stick when the oil starts to leave a sludge residue.

And, Hill-Holder clutch. Also stolen from Studebaker.

Almost all "modern" engines have a mandatory cam belt replacement. I hate it, but you can't really blame Subaru for that. Cadillac NorthStar V8, OMG.

Now, deliberately pointing one generation of their advertising at A Certain Demographic -- they'll never live that down. But it wasn't their engineers.

Posted by: Stringer Davis at December 19, 2013 04:19 PM (xq1UY)

377 guys I saw the unfortunate remarks about N*GGER and such and banned blue state rebel.

I now think maybe I missed something, like you were doing a blazing saddles thing or something. I will investigate that later.

for now, i've unbanned him, until I can figure out what happened here.

but please note these posts and how very bad they look, and how I might get pretty alarmed at seeing them.

please stop quoting the previous posts too.

Posted by: ace at December 19, 2013 04:21 PM (/FnUH)

378 as it stands I think I'm going to have to manually delete these various statements and i'd prefer not having to delete too many.

Posted by: ace at December 19, 2013 04:22 PM (/FnUH)

379 It was a clear case of quoting Blazing Saddles but it did cause me to raise my eyebrow a bit.

What Mel Brooks got away with still amazes me.

Posted by: The Obsidian Owl at December 19, 2013 04:28 PM (tWmgi)

380 379 The Obsidian Owl at December 19, 2013 04:28 PM (tWmgi)

We were a tougher nation with a sense of humor then.

I am not calling out any policy just saying we are weaker for the hypersensitivity, but your place your rules Ace.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 19, 2013 04:33 PM (9jfyN)

381 Eekdahl, the One Who Brings It!

Ace should be happy that you let him post the crumbs from your delicious Federalist muffins.

Posted by: Brass Bancroft at December 19, 2013 04:41 PM (2iHnw)

382 Sounds like a "death panel" ruling. O-care is like a cancer that is curable, but treatment is very expensive. The panel looks at the patient, determines the cancer is too far along, the cost far too high, and the patient not worth the expense. Their solution: Let the cancer take its course and allow the patient to die. Then they congratulate each other for saving $1 zillion while at the same time trying to tell Americans why the nation they once knew no longer exists.

Posted by: American_Spirit at December 19, 2013 04:41 PM (23gmE)

383 Butt INSURANCE !

Posted by: LGBTTMFBBQQNAMBLA at December 19, 2013 04:51 PM (5ikDv)

384 It will never be repealed, haters.

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at December 19, 2013 04:59 PM (G6U3l)

385 384 Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at December 19, 2013 04:59 PM (G6U3l)

Mary love, don't you have vaginal knitting to get to.

Posted by: sven10077 at December 19, 2013 05:11 PM (9jfyN)

386
Obama advertising his programs is like you paying highter electric bills so that the electric company can tell you how wonderful they are. What choice have you got? Obama isa thief, and he has spent hundres of million of your dollars telling you how wonderful he is. Jessie James doesNOT need advertising!

Posted by: burt at December 19, 2013 05:59 PM (1+kJ5)

387 He's a Nevada resident, or he's supposed to be. Why is he signing up through the DC exchange?

Congressional SHOP, baby. His...cough...employer is in the District and what-not.

Posted by: akula51 at December 19, 2013 06:15 PM (sKsAS)

388 Good point. A $3500 deductible ain't great, but it is what it is in today's world. He was laid off from his job at age 62, so he had to "retire" three years early.

When I say it's pretty good, I compare that only to what he would have had to spend in the private market without subsidies. He would have been a tough guy to insure. He's had some health problems (through no fault of his own - he keeps himself in good shape).

My personal opinion is that Obamacare is simply a tax on the middle / upper middle class, collected by the government and redistributed to insurance companies in order to make it profitable for them to insure the poor. It takes public money and hands it over directly to private corporations. That's why Republicans came up with it.

Almost all political activity by each major party can be explained by the following motivations:

1. Democrats always seek to expand the power and scope of the governmental bureaucracy.

2. Republicans always seek to transfer public money to big business and to give big business more sway in making public policy.

Posted by: stickety at December 19, 2013 06:57 PM (+Vm+w)

389 Looks to me like these "explanations" are just Pajama Boy at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue blowing more smoke up my heinie.

And I've already had so much of that Obama Smoke that I'm swelled up like the Graf Zeppelin.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at December 19, 2013 07:13 PM (VAche)

390 378
as it stands I think I'm going to have to manually delete these various statements and i'd prefer not having to delete too many.

Posted by: ace at December 19, 2013 04:22 PM (/FnUH)

hmmm. Normally the regular crew here is a bit, er, vociferous (I said I'd used that word in a sentence this week. Check!). But I'm furrowed brow and smell a rat here.

Something ain't right.

Posted by: tangonine at December 22, 2013 10:48 PM (x3YFz)

391 The Nuts of Life

BOSTON- In the largest study of its kind, people who ate a daily handful of nuts were 20 percent less likely to die from any cause over a 30-year period than were those who didn't consume nuts, say scientists from Dana-Farber Cancer Institute, Brigham and Women's Hospital, and the Harvard School of Public Health.

I just consume the contents of nuts...does that count?

-B. Hussein "McPutt-Putt" Obama

Posted by: model_1066 at December 23, 2013 12:26 AM (6O+h7)

392 385 384 Mary Cloggenstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at December 19, 2013 04:59 PM (G6U3l)

Mary love, don't you have vaginal knitting to get to.
Posted by: sven10077 at December 19, 2013 05:11 PM (9jfyN)

You might want to wash that sweater first. What gets blood stains out of wool?

Posted by: model_1066 at December 23, 2013 12:28 AM (6O+h7)

393 374 Every librarian in Vermont owns a Subaru. It's a fashion statement. It's the Volvo of the 21st century. Those people think they have a great car, but they don't know why, except that their friends (who know nothing about automobiles either) like them.

Next time you meet a Subaru owner, ask them how much it costs for the mandatory cam belt replacement.

When they talk about how great it is in the snow, ask them if they've had the experience of being stuck in the snow.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at December 19, 2013 04:12 PM (aDwsi)

And when you're helping them fix some too-technical-for-me problem, such as replacing a light bulb, make sure to ask them get you the left handed screwdriver.

Posted by: model_1066 at December 23, 2013 12:32 AM (6O+h7)

394 everybody else dead or what?

Posted by: model_1066 at December 23, 2013 12:32 AM (6O+h7)

395 Is there some AoS trophy for most comments in an unbroken sequence?

Posted by: model_1066 at December 23, 2013 12:33 AM (6O+h7)

396 Geez...might as well go harvest some hobos so I can have some pelts to trade for porn and Xanax in the morning. Night all.

Posted by: model_1066 at December 23, 2013 12:35 AM (6O+h7)

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