The Washington Post Adopts Slate's Outrage-Trolling Business Model: Hey, Maybe Teachers <i>Should</i> Rape Their Underage Students

The Washington Post Adopts Slate's Outrage-Trolling Business Model: Hey, Maybe Teachers Should Rape Their Underage Students

The Washington Post announces a new Common Core centered on the 3 R's: readin', writin', and rape.

As protesters decry the leniency of Rambold’s sentence — he will spend 30 days in prison after pleading guilty to raping 14-year-old Cherice Morales, who committed suicide at age 16 — I find myself troubled for the opposite reason. I don’t believe that all sexual conduct between underage students and teachers should necessarily be classified as rape, and I believe that absent extenuating circumstances, consensual sexual activity between teachers and students should not be criminalized....
I do think that teachers who engage in sex with students, no matter how consensual, should be removed from their jobs and barred from teaching unless they prove that they have completed rehabilitation.

Wow, rehabilitation. Throw the book at 'em, huh?

But the utter hysteria with which society responds to these situations...

Just let that sink in.

This wasn't a spontaneous comment; she chose those words, edited those words, resolved upon those words for her final draft.

...does less to protect children than to assuage society’s need to feel that we are protecting them.

You know what would protect them? Making teachers who have sex with their minor students go to "rehabilitation," Filner style.

I don’t know what triggered Morales’s suicide...

Her family has some thoughts on the matter. You might want to peruse them.

..but I find it tragic and deeply troubling that this occurred as the case against Rambold wound its way through the criminal justice system. One has to wonder whether the extreme pressure she must have felt from those circumstances played a role.

One might also wonder if the statutory rape of a minor had something to do with it, but only an uptight grumpus would think that.

I’ve been a 14-year-old girl, and so have all of my female friends.

All my current friends are 14-year-old girls. We have pool parties and sometimes we massage each other.

God bless you for your work, Madame. Me and my 14-year-old jailbait posse are sick of society looking askance at our Forbidden Love.

When it comes to having sex on the brain, teenage boys got nothin’ on us. When I was growing up in the 1960s and ’70s, the sexual boundaries between teachers and students were much fuzzier.

Yet another Aged Bent Hippie here to tell us all dirty stories about the dawn of Free Love and the Steam Engine.

Throughout high school, college and law school, I knew students who had sexual relations with teachers.

Sidenote: It has always been legal to have sex with college students and law school students, unless it's a Doogie Howser situation.

Note how cavalierly she merges "sex with adults" with "sex with children."

To the best of my knowledge, these situations were all consensual in every honest meaning of the word, even if society would like to embrace the fantasy that a high school student can’t consent to sex. Although some feelings probably got bruised, no one I knew was horribly damaged and certainly no one died.

No one died?

You know what else no one typically dies from? Rape. Maybe we should take a second look at rape generally.

On the other hand, awareness of sexual harassment was also much lower. Pretty much every woman I know has been sexually harassed in at least one, and usually many, of her jobs and/or academic settings.

Let's stop talking about this stupid Criminal Sexual Abuse of a Child Issue you're all on about and talk about what really matters, the sexual harassment I experienced in my pre-menopausal years.

Incidentally, you know what else no one typically dies from? Sexual harassment.

I was fired from a waitressing job in Boston in 1979, during my first year of law school, after I refused to sit in the manager’s lap like the other girls. I would have much rather seen that sleazebag dragged through the legal system than certain teachers I considered friends despite their sexual relations with students that today would land them in jail.

Yes he should go to jail for the rude and bad behavior of asking you to sit on his lap and then firing you from a shitty job that you didn't want, but child rape? Eh, no one dies.

The point is that there is a vast and extremely nuanced continuum of sexual interactions involving teachers and students, ranging from flirtation to mutual lust to harassment to predatory behavior. Painting all of these behaviors with the same brush sends a damaging message to students and sets the stage for hypocrisy and distortion of the truth.

NAMBLA just emailed me: "She gets it! It's all about protecting the Children from damaging messages about repressing their desires to have sex with adults and society's hypocrisy!

This is what we've been trying to say!

Finally! Someone has the guts to say it!"

Many teenagers are, biologically speaking, sexually mature.

And hot. Don't forget hot.

And also unspoiled and unschooled in the ways of love. Easily manipulated and shaped into one's preferred sexual forms.

Which, let's face it, are just other words for "hot."

Pretending that this kind of thing won’t happen if we simply punish it severely enough is delusional.

No one pretends this, idiot. No criminal law on the books pretends that if we just outlaw a thing, it will all magically stop. (Except for gun-control laws, of course.)

We know banning murder does not stop murder. But this antiquated notion of "criminalizing crimes" has several salutary functions, such as reducing the number of murders. If murder were not illegal, we'd have a shit-ton more of it, believe me, Sister.

No one has ever said the law against murder reduces the murder rate to zero. This is rather obvious, "Lawyer."

But what would the murder rate be if murder were, insanely, not a crime? Think about it.

Would the murder rate double? Not even close. As a first approximation we'd guess it would increase by a whole order of magnitude -- ten times as many murders -- and that's probably lowballing it.

People like killing each other a whole heck of a lot. And despite this idiot's assertions to the contrary, people also notice that young but sexually-mature (or close to it) girls can sometimes be rather attractive.

Without a law criminalizing either of these natural (and bad) impulses, we'd have a hell of a lot more murders, and a whole hell of a lot more sex with children.

Now sit on my lap and tell me about the days of Woodstock and "The Charleston."

...
If religious leaders and heads of state can’t keep their pants on, with all they have to lose, why does society expect that members of other professions can be coerced into meeting this standard?

By the way, this woman is a lawyer. Just pointing that out.

A more realistic approach would be to treat violations in a way that removes and rehabilitates the offender without traumatizing the victim.

NAMBLA just me an email, which says "MegaDittos-- we just don't want to traumatize the victim."

The intensity of criminal proceedings, with all the pressure they put on participants...

Again, protecting the children from the "pressure" of having their Special Love for Coach Billy exposed before the world.

...the stigma...

Oh God, now she doesn't even think sex with children should be punished with mere stigma. Even that is too great a penalty to pay for Love.

Love of Children. The Greatest Love of All.

...the community and media scrutiny, and the concurrent shame and guilt they generate, do the opposite of healing and protecting the victim.

NAMBLA just sent me a third and final email:

HEALING and PROTECTING the CHILD!
YES! YES! YES! YES!
YESSSSSSS!!!!!1111!!!!

Attached to the email was the picture of a post-orgasmic penis in its early refractory phase.

Yet another case of a media outlet putting a sad woman through the ritual cruelty of public exposure of her stupidity and delusion in order to garner some Humiliation Traffic.

They do this to women a lot.

#WarOnWomen, yo.

Posted by: Ace at 03:41 PM

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1 With 14 year olds its often not "rape rape".

Posted by: Whoopie Goldberg at August 31, 2013 03:43 PM (qf2kI)

2 let it burn and get off my lawn

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 31, 2013 03:43 PM (8JJ6O)

3 Use of the word "nuanced" by libs is always an excuse for bad behavior. Always.

Posted by: runningrn at August 31, 2013 03:44 PM (PLOz8)

4 What the fuck?

Posted by: Jeff Bezos at August 31, 2013 03:45 PM (qf2kI)

5 That's not a slope, and even if it is, it's not slippery. Swearsies.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 31, 2013 03:45 PM (ZshNr)

6
14?!! Why, that's rather long in the tooth!

Posted by: Roman Polanski at August 31, 2013 03:45 PM (PLOz8)

7 Unlike the Kermit Gosnell case, this doesn't even rate as a "local crime story", now that our editorial page has spoken.

Posted by: Sarah Kliff at August 31, 2013 03:46 PM (qf2kI)

8 Only Ace's humor through this article keeps me from fucking rage-stroking.

I have two daughters, currently 6 and 3. Any motherfucking TEACHER that tries to put a hand on them, at any point in their education, will be lucky to only get an ass whipping from me.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 31, 2013 03:46 PM (GEICT)

9 If I ever get caught robbing a bank, my defense will involve the "nuanced continuum" of redistribution policy

Posted by: Manifesto de Purp at August 31, 2013 03:47 PM (2BHYC)

10 How long before the Post and the rest of the MBM advocate for sex between priests and choirboys?

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 31, 2013 03:47 PM (VlXYw)

11 But it's for the children!!

Posted by: runningrn at August 31, 2013 03:47 PM (PLOz8)

12 Once again an "educated" person says some very stupid things.

Posted by: cool arrow at August 31, 2013 03:47 PM (WMsq+)

13 Michelle Jenneke's dougie is much sexier than Kate Upton's. See for yourself: http://tinyurl.com/bueh74a

Posted by: DAve at August 31, 2013 03:48 PM (OksBo)

14 Ace that's Readin' Writin' and aRapematic.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2013 03:48 PM (LI48c)

15 She should have to serve on Filners staff....somewhere.....forever.

Posted by: BignJames at August 31, 2013 03:48 PM (ZNQKl)

16 wow, this is unbelievable

Posted by: Peaches at August 31, 2013 03:48 PM (8lmkt)

17 The Washington Post acquisition was done by Mr. Bozo personally. Please don't take your anger out on us! Free shipping all day today! Hey, did you know he also owns a cool space rocket company? Lets talk about that instead, whaddayousay? #squirrel

Posted by: Amazon Public Relations Department at August 31, 2013 03:49 PM (qf2kI)

18 By the way, this woman is a lawyer. Just pointing that out.

You will be hearing from *my* lawyer, sir!

Wait, what?

Posted by: AmishDude at August 31, 2013 03:49 PM (xSegX)

19 The MSM and late-night comics successfully made gay guys molesting kids a Catholic Church issue. The only teachers that get more than cursory coverage are the hot nymphos banging teen boys. Never the creepy Biology teacher who offers kids a ride home.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 31, 2013 03:49 PM (ZshNr)

20 "Throughout high school, college and law school, I knew students who had sexual relations with teachers."

Ah, yes. Convolving sexual relations by high school pupils with their instructors with sexual relations by college and law school students with their instructors, without drawing the distinction that the first of these situations INVOLVES A MINOR.

Herring. Trail. Dragging. Some assembly required.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 31, 2013 03:50 PM (gqT4g)

21 If Jeff Bezos was tied in to every opposing response to this stupidity it's possible WAPO might have a change of tune. I personally admire Bezos but have seen the Alinsky targeting of individuals to be effective. All's fair.

Posted by: gracepmc at August 31, 2013 03:50 PM (rznx3)

22 I see a market opportunity for "community justice" delivery

Posted by: Vito Corleone at August 31, 2013 03:50 PM (qf2kI)

23 How did you get on NAMBLA's email list? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 31, 2013 03:51 PM (KJw+S)

24
Makes me want to ask the age-old question:

Do people who write this kind of article really believe what they write, or are they merely trying to be hip, edgy, and provocative? Are those two possibilities even mutually exclusive?

Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at August 31, 2013 03:51 PM (mvenn)

25 LOL, ace. Well done!

Posted by: Y-not at August 31, 2013 03:51 PM (5H6zj)

26 Well, 230 years is still a good run for any democracy.

Who's up for ice cream in hell?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 31, 2013 03:52 PM (3CiXB)

27 Sidenote: It has always been legal to have sex with college students and law school students, unless it's a Doogie Howser situation.

But, sadly, not mandatory.

Posted by: AmishDude, college professor at August 31, 2013 03:52 PM (xSegX)

28 You can't imagine the grief I got for my short-lived North American Motor Boat Lovers Association website.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 31, 2013 03:53 PM (ZshNr)

29 I read the whole thing and I am just trying to figure out which part is grosser...

This part--

But the utter hysteria with which society responds to these situations...

or this part-

I don’t know what triggered Morales’s suicide...

Posted by: tasker at August 31, 2013 03:53 PM (r2PLg)

30 It is a major felony in SC for a teacher to have sex with a student, regardless of age. So if that teacher had been in SC then he would be looking at a lengthy stay in the grey bar motel.

Posted by: Vic at August 31, 2013 03:53 PM (zZbNF)

31 "What the fuck?

Posted by: Jeff Bezos"

Bezos knew what he was getting and he wasn't put off by it.

For my part, I now refer to the Bezos-owned WaPo as the "Bezoar".

A bezoar is an unsanitary mass of impacted material in the gastrointestinal tract.

And that's a pretty good description of this sort of pseudojournalism.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 31, 2013 03:54 PM (gqT4g)

32 Hey, second look?

Posted by: Jeffrey Dahmer at August 31, 2013 03:55 PM (qf2kI)

33 And too bad someone bailed out that POS WaPo.

Posted by: Vic at August 31, 2013 03:55 PM (zZbNF)

34 Dr. Mr Bezos,

Do you support the conclusion of your WaPo staff writer that sex with children is OK?

Thanks

Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 31, 2013 03:55 PM (JawqV)

35 13 Women that smile alot don't bother me at all

Posted by: DAve at August 31, 2013 03:55 PM (OksBo)

36 Maybe it's this part-

To the best of my knowledge, these situations were all consensual in every honest meaning of the word, even if society would like to embrace the fantasy that a high school student can’t consent to sex. Although some feelings probably got bruised, no one I knew was horribly damaged and certainly no one died.

Posted by: tasker at August 31, 2013 03:55 PM (r2PLg)

37 I don't get where the WaPo is getting this rape-apology bullshit from. What the hell?!?!

Posted by: EC at August 31, 2013 03:56 PM (doBIb)

38 Really, Washington Post? REALLY? Someone has to actually explain that sex with minor children (No matter how mature you think they act) is a bad thing? So glad I ended my subscription to these bastards a few years back.

Posted by: NR Pax at August 31, 2013 03:56 PM (U+O64)

39 How is it consensual when the State forces the victim to appear before her rapist every day?

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 31, 2013 03:57 PM (ZshNr)

40 So far, so good

Posted by: Beezelbub at August 31, 2013 03:57 PM (qf2kI)

41 I'm hot for students.

Posted by: Van Halen, proud member of your local teacher's union at August 31, 2013 03:58 PM (GebGu)

42 Wow. War on students.

Posted by: NCKate at August 31, 2013 03:58 PM (KKfVH)

43 It's the new shock routine.

If Miley Cyrus was a WaPo writer it might look like this.

*shoot me*

Posted by: tasker at August 31, 2013 03:58 PM (r2PLg)

44 Drudge had a link up for an article about Chicago kindergartners receiving mandatory 30 minutes of sex education per month. The reason being: abuse. And diversity.

Posted by: mrp at August 31, 2013 03:58 PM (HjPtV)

45 I approve.

Posted by: Allen Ginsburg at August 31, 2013 03:58 PM (Aif/5)

46 Qualifications?

Rape, murder, arson, and rape.

You said rape twice.

I like rape.

Posted by: Blazing Saddles at August 31, 2013 03:58 PM (Pr6hk)

47 I've got a pencil, give me someone to teach how to write.

Posted by: Van Halen, proud member of your local teacher's union at August 31, 2013 03:59 PM (GebGu)

48 This woman watched the following clip of South Park and didn't see a problem.

http://tinyurl.com/clxtx7z

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2013 03:59 PM (LI48c)

49 Actually I'm being unfair to Miley Cyrus--holy shit.

Posted by: tasker at August 31, 2013 03:59 PM (r2PLg)

50 I like teaching young boys

Posted by: Harry Reid is a pederast at August 31, 2013 04:00 PM (Pr6hk)

51
>>> Incidentally, you know what else no one typically dies from?

Hot Tubbing?

Posted by: Roman Polanski at August 31, 2013 04:00 PM (7xe65)

52 The intensity of criminal proceedings, with all the pressure they put on participants...

***

This is a real thing and one that troubles me greatly. My purpose is to protect kids but forcing them to testify against their will can be damaging, particularly if the defendant is daddy or granddaddy. There is a cop I've worked with on many cases whose daughter was sexually assaulted. He told me that it looked way different on that side of the table. We did a pretty lenient deal because he was trying to protect his daughter. There is another cop I had many cases with who I just had arrested sexually assaulting his twelve year old stepdaughter. She now says that if she had known what was going to happen., daddy in the slammer etc, she never would have told. It's not an easy thing to know the right thing to do.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 31, 2013 04:00 PM (VlXYw)

53 Yeah, they've deliberately given up educating children as prospective human beings. They're just taught how to be better grunting idiot animals.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 31, 2013 04:00 PM (ZshNr)

54 Let me start a Blue Ribbon Panel on this

Posted by: Bob Filner at August 31, 2013 04:00 PM (Pr6hk)

55 40
So far, so good

Posted by: Beezelbub at August 31, 2013 03:57 PM (qf2kI)

early nom for threadwinner right there

Posted by: Peaches at August 31, 2013 04:01 PM (8lmkt)

56 Update: if the 14 year old is tied down or if more than three middle aged men are involved, we might have a different editorial view. We will get back to you.

Posted by: Washington Post Company at August 31, 2013 04:01 PM (qf2kI)

57 It's not like it's rape-rape, amirite?

Posted by: Freakishly large Germanic gladiator at August 31, 2013 04:01 PM (Q9qpj)

58 So here's the executive summary of how liberals think:

(a) Sexual relations across a rank/power gradient between adults serving in the U.S. miliary: OMG THIS IS THE WORST THING EVER TO HAVE HAPPENED IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE UNIVERSE, ELEVENTY. MASSIVE URGENT REFORMS MUST BE FORCED ON THE ARMED SERVICES WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT. CAREERS MUST BE INSTANTLY DESTROYED REGARDLESS OF FACTS IN EVIDENCE, AND A CLIMATE OF CREEPY INSTITUTIONAL PARANOIA INSTILLED. AT ONCE, AT ONCE, DO YOU HEAR?!?!?!

(b) Sexual relations across a rank/power gradient between an adult and a minor child in the unionized public schools: yawn, no biggie, (crickets). Lunch?

Posted by: torquewrench at August 31, 2013 04:01 PM (gqT4g)

59 OT, since every thread is OT Thread on the weekends.

Pretty sure I'm about to get into a big "maternity leave" argument on FB.

Sure, why not, everyone deserves to be paid like they're working when they're not working.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 31, 2013 04:01 PM (GEICT)

60 Just a thought here: I know there isn't necessarily a connection, but if a 14-year-old has sex with a teacher and then commits suicide at 16, I'd assume that the two, being relatively rare events, might have something to do with each other.

I.e., it wasn't all that consensual.

Maybe she "consented" at the time (probably more like "relented") but that's why we have statutory rape laws. She isn't capable of understanding the ramifications of what she's agreeing to and he is supposed to.

This seems part of the general trend in our society that people are assumed not to be in control of their sexual urges.

Posted by: AmishDude, college professor at August 31, 2013 04:02 PM (xSegX)

61 Oh, effing hell, not *another* thread about people who have more sex than I do!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith's Other Mobile at August 31, 2013 04:02 PM (qyfb5)

62 Wow. Even I find these types of attitudes upsetting.

Posted by: Charlie Manson at August 31, 2013 04:02 PM (Pr6hk)

63 I've been fighting this battle for years, sister.

Posted by: Zombie Socrates at August 31, 2013 04:02 PM (7xe65)

64 Burn it down, scatter the stones, yadda-yadda...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 31, 2013 04:03 PM (3CiXB)

65 Excuse me, where do we send our Million Moms for an orderly pillage of the WaPo building?

Posted by: Mothers Against Raping Children Organization (MARCO....) at August 31, 2013 04:03 PM (qf2kI)

66 Now I don't know what prompted Morales suicide....
Now I am not an education policy wonk....

Hey, I don't know shit from.... Can I get a national column?

Posted by: Shinola at August 31, 2013 04:03 PM (2yPl+)

67 I should run for the Presidency of the Teachers Union

Posted by: Danger, Carlos Danger - Agent Double O Naught at August 31, 2013 04:03 PM (Pr6hk)

68 Well, allowing high school teachers to have consequence free sex with 16 year olds is one way to boost the # of male teachers, I guess.

An evil, fucked up way, but a way.

What the fuck is wrong with these people?

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 31, 2013 04:04 PM (ZPrif)

69 In honor of football season beginning I have decided to punt the decision on Syria to Congress. Now if you'll excuse my I've still got time to squeeze in a round of golf today. Priorities people.

Posted by: Barack Obama at August 31, 2013 04:04 PM (LI48c)

70 >>>She now says that if she had known what was going to happen., daddy in
the slammer etc, she never would have told. It's not an easy thing to
know the right thing to do.

and this is why these things are typically pled out -- they let the perp off lightly to spare the victim more abuse.

The right thing to do is to put them in jail. Duh.

You know, rape trials (as in forcible rape) are also rather tough on the victim.

in fact, murder trials are rather hard for the victim's family.

Second look at decriminalizing crime?

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2013 04:04 PM (/IWYB)

71 At least the comments after the article are mostly sane.

Posted by: NCKate at August 31, 2013 04:04 PM (KKfVH)

72 Now I don't know what prompted Morales suicide....

***

Did she have to read Cather in the Rye? Because that just about pushed me over the brink.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 31, 2013 04:04 PM (VlXYw)

73 so the Washington Post is just pro child rape now?
Good to know.

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at August 31, 2013 04:05 PM (ZPrif)

74 That is some seriously sick twisted B.S. right there.

Posted by: The Editorial Staff at Slate Magazine at August 31, 2013 04:05 PM (Q9qpj)

75
49 Actually I'm being unfair to Miley Cyrus--holy shit.
Posted by: tasker at August 31, 2013 03:59 PM (r2PLg)

After seeing the Robin Thicke video yesterday I now understand whyshe had the giant foam finger.

Ok I don't understand it, but at least now I know where it came from.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2013 04:06 PM (LI48c)

76 if the 14 year old is tied down or if more than three middle aged men are involved, we might have a different editorial view.

bondage gang rape is a senior level elective -- doh

Posted by: Manifesto de Purp at August 31, 2013 04:06 PM (2BHYC)

77 What the fuck is wrong with these people?

Posted by: Flatbush
---------------------

They are without a redeeming morality. As Ann Coulter would say, 'Godless'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 31, 2013 04:07 PM (aDwsi)

78 Posted by: BignJames at August 31, 2013 03:48 PM (ZNQKl)

I've always wanted to wear a girl like a leather glove

Posted by: The dude at August 31, 2013 04:07 PM (vJdyz)

79 What's a little tickling and what not between leaders and their subordinates

Posted by: Eric Massa at August 31, 2013 04:07 PM (Pr6hk)

80 You know what else is tough on the victims? War crimes trials. Just saying...

Posted by: Just a Good German at August 31, 2013 04:07 PM (Q9qpj)

81 Those crackas wanted me to go it alone - something about Article 1, Section 8.
I don't need section 8, I'm in public housing.

Posted by: Part Time Con Law Lecturer and Nobel Peace Prize Laureate at August 31, 2013 04:07 PM (2yPl+)

82
You know, rape trials (as in forcible rape) are also rather tough on the victim.

***

I can't think having a n adult testify and be subjected to cross etc. is as bad as forcing a child to do it. And the ironic thing is that in Colorado, adult rape victims don't have to allow a prosecution but I can force child victims to prosecute, and frequently do.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 31, 2013 04:08 PM (VlXYw)

83 Because tenure should come with a rape mulligan... or two.

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2013 04:08 PM (7xe65)

84 See, now they have me posting in the wrong thread. Racial partisan gridlock.

Posted by: Part Time Con Law Lecturer and Nobel Peace Prize Laureate at August 31, 2013 04:08 PM (2yPl+)

85 Second look at decriminalizing crime?

RAPE FOR EVERYONE!!!

Posted by: EC at August 31, 2013 04:09 PM (doBIb)

86 After seeing the Robin Thicke video yesterday I now understand whyshe had the giant foam finger.

Ok I don't understand it, but at least now I know where it came from.
Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2013 04:06 PM (LI48c)

***************

Ya--completely unoriginal.

Today I saw a foam finger at a soccer game.

Grossed out like never before.

jeebus.

Posted by: tasker at August 31, 2013 04:09 PM (r2PLg)

87 It takes a village to teach how to use a strap-on

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 31, 2013 04:09 PM (Pr6hk)

88 **Raises Solidarity Fist**

Posted by: Kevin Jennings at August 31, 2013 04:09 PM (7xe65)

89 I cannot believe that someone actually wrote this infuriating crap but it wasactually published in a major American newspaper. Wow. We are so screwed.

Posted by: Kate at August 31, 2013 04:09 PM (fUlgs)

90 Just guessing, but is this scrunt a defense attorney...who just happens to defend sexual predators for a living?

Because, in that context, her arguments would make perfect sense, to her. I mean, she would be trying to sell that crap to a judge at sentencing on a routine basis.

Posted by: The guy who wonders what the fuck is going on, sometimes. at August 31, 2013 04:10 PM (Q9qpj)

91 Sure, why not, everyone deserves to be paid like they're working when they're not working.

Posted by: BCochran
---------------------

Not only that, when they are working, it is only 'fair' that they be paid more than their labor is worth.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 31, 2013 04:10 PM (aDwsi)

92 and barred from teaching unless they prove that they have completed rehabilitation.

Trust me on this: a weekend of rehabilitation works wonders! Man, there are some hot ones in there...

Posted by: Bob Filner at August 31, 2013 04:10 PM (FcR7P)

93 Congress ought to call his bluff and vote to bomb Assad.

Just to make him squirm.

We know he won't do it, no matter what.

But congress? They hear the 80 percent poll thunder just as loud as he and Valerie do.

Valerie's boy. Boy.

Posted by: The littl shyning man at August 31, 2013 04:10 PM (PH+2B)

94 As long as the contraception is free...

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at August 31, 2013 04:10 PM (Pr6hk)

95
my kid's school right before the school year started announced the arrest and firing of a teacher who raped a student
jail saved him from the parents
he'll do a lot more than 30 days....I hope kimo makes it painful

Posted by: navycopjoe at August 31, 2013 04:10 PM (djLPp)

96 The local newspaper described the serial molestation of a 7 year old by her male teacher over the period of 3 months as a "ongoing relationship."

7. Years. Old.

Posted by: Lauren at August 31, 2013 04:10 PM (ELdpj)

97 So what's this "She's over 18, she was drunk and horny and had sex with this guy and it's RAPE!" stuff all about?

Posted by: mrp at August 31, 2013 04:11 PM (HjPtV)

98
Hey we did studies on this shit. We send out kids through sex-ed classes now. I have a masters in child psychology for crissake! Whats the problem.
Doctor Doofus

Huh what? We just played post office and spin the bottle when we were adolescents and learned about the bird's and the bee's just fine. It wasn't until Doctor Doofuspromoted social engineering these problems arose!!

Posted by: regular guy at August 31, 2013 04:11 PM (N3Al8)

99 This is why we mandated Kindergarten Sex Ed

Posted by: Chicago School Board at August 31, 2013 04:11 PM (Pr6hk)

100 You know, SMOD, y'all ain't giitin' it done.

Know what I mean, bro?

Posted by: eman at August 31, 2013 04:11 PM (AO9UG)

101 14 Ace that's Readin' Writin' and aRapematic.
Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2013 03:48 PM (LI48c)

thread winner

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 31, 2013 04:11 PM (8JJ6O)

102 Georgia Tech hung 70 on Elon, so Paul Johnson is once again the Greatest Football Coach What Ever Lived.

Posted by: Off Topic at August 31, 2013 04:12 PM (Q9qpj)

103 14 year olds are no big deal.

Posted by: Bashir al-Assad at August 31, 2013 04:12 PM (qf2kI)

104 ...and I don't believe for a minute that chicks get horny.

Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2013 04:12 PM (7xe65)

105 100 You know, SMOD, y'all ain't giitin' it done.

Know what I mean, bro?
Posted by: eman at August 31, 2013 04:11 PM (AO9UG)

Move over SMOD, there's something leaner!

Doomsday Planet Killer machine FTW!

Posted by: EC at August 31, 2013 04:12 PM (doBIb)

106 Sex Education could include castrating rapists.

Perhaps schools should at that to the course outline.

Posted by: eman at August 31, 2013 04:13 PM (AO9UG)

107 96 The local newspaper described the serial molestation of a 7 year old by her male teacher over the period of 3 months as a "ongoing relationship."

7. Years. Old.

Posted by: Lauren at August 31, 2013 04:10 PM (ELdpj)

........lock n load

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 31, 2013 04:13 PM (GEICT)

108
104 ...and I don't believe for a minute that chicks get horny.
Posted by: garrett at August 31, 2013 04:12 PM (7xe65)

You've got to keep them away from the wedding cake.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2013 04:13 PM (LI48c)

109 Sadly, I'm not surprised at this column. I'm really not.

There are so many things going on with this but let me point out one:

Parenthood is really not assumed anymore. Many more people don't have children and don't feel as if they have to think like a parent when it comes to public issues.

So when a woman like this (she has a website that mentions all sorts of things about her, but doesn't mention kids, so I assume she has none) thinks about a 14-year-old girl having sex with an older man, she doesn't think of the girl as a daughter or a niece, she sees herself in the 14-year-old girl.

And, through the lens of maybe some nostalgia and projecting her current maturity (such as it is) onto her 14-year-old self, she imagines how cool it might be to have had sex with a much older man. And she thinks that she could have easily handled it as though giggling about David Cassidy's tight pants is sex.

I don't have kids myself, but if you know any 14-year-old girls, you know the one thing they can't handle emotionally is sex with a much older authority figure.

I suspect she doesn't know any 14-year-old girls.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 31, 2013 04:14 PM (xSegX)

110 She wanted it. Even though she's a paraplegic kid who can't speak, read or write, I knew she wanted it.

Posted by: Teachers Aid at August 31, 2013 04:14 PM (qf2kI)

111 Could just take rapists and pedos outside and shoot them or just let the father of the victim beat the perp to death with a four foot dildo.

Pick your poison

Posted by: The dude at August 31, 2013 04:14 PM (vJdyz)

112 107 96 The local newspaper described the serial molestation of a 7 year old by her male teacher over the period of 3 months as a "ongoing relationship."

7. Years. Old.

Posted by: Lauren at August 31, 2013 04:10 PM (ELdpj)

........lock n load
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 31, 2013 04:13 PM (GEICT)

**************

I hate knowing that I am absolutely capable of beating the living shit out of someone.

Posted by: tasker at August 31, 2013 04:15 PM (r2PLg)

113 Sex Education could include castrating rapists.

Since, according to the feminists, all sex is rape and all heterosexual men are therefore rapists, this will probably make a small dent in teachers' future job prospects.

Posted by: Blanco Basura at August 31, 2013 04:15 PM (JawqV)

114 I don't have kids myself, but if you know any 14-year-old girls, you know the one thing they can't handle emotionally is sex with a much older authority figure. I suspect she doesn't know any 14-year-old girls.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 31, 2013 04:14 PM (xSegX)

And if she does, she should be kept away from them. And that goes double for any 14-year-old boys.

Posted by: buzzion at August 31, 2013 04:15 PM (LI48c)

115 " just let the father of the victim beat the perp to death"

We're good with that.

Posted by: Texas at August 31, 2013 04:16 PM (ELdpj)

116 100% of pedophiles agree.

Posted by: zsasz at August 31, 2013 04:16 PM (MMC8r)

117
See here's where it would be me going to jail if I was her father. I would wait and stalk and use me very sharp deer knife to slice the sausage and meatballs. Very stabby. And hope the guy lives a long time with his new vag.

If there is no straight forward law and punishment, vigilantism happens.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 31, 2013 04:16 PM (lnFK0)

118 So WaPo should be writing an editorial bemoaning the lack of sensitivity and respect for one with a serious debilitating mental condition. I am talking about one of the six co-founders of Dragon*Con. Starting in 2000 Kramer was accused and charged with molesting children. He has managed to dodge court and sentencing by claiming various illnesses and emergencies. But his latest bout of deviancy occurred in CT where he was busted in a hotel room unsupervised with a 14 yr old boy. Kramer was extradited to GA to face charges there first.

Kramer owned a 34% stake in the Dragon*Con enterprise. And had refused to be bought out by the others. Well they finally forced a buyout of his shares by creating a new Dragon*Con company that excluded him. Dragon*Con will not say how much this cost.

I just have to say I am not sensitive to the plight of Kramer. He is a monster who should be locked away to never see another human face or feel the warmth of sunlight on his face.

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 31, 2013 04:16 PM (zogjM)

119 I donâ€™t know what triggered Moralesâ€™s suicide...

One of the articles about this that I read a few days ago said she was heavily tormented by classmates over the affair. Young teen girls van be absolutely evil.

Posted by: Vic at August 31, 2013 04:16 PM (zZbNF)

120 Teachers who sexually assault children can keep their jobs.

Their dicks get cut off and their twats get stapled shut, but they can keep their jobs.

Posted by: eman at August 31, 2013 04:16 PM (AO9UG)

121 well we have disney princess miley simulating a good ole fashion bufu for our kids at the vma's btw she's 20 but only a few years ago she was portraying a wholesome teen for our impressionable tweens and now the lovely cutter demi lovato is going to play a lesbian on glee!!!!!!! yippee!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 31, 2013 04:16 PM (8JJ6O)

122 Seriously, when doing deep research about Kevin Jennings and Harry Hay and so forth (see http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=1152 and http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=990 for examples), I actually obtained and read several real publications put out by NAMBLA. Not stuff about NAMBLA published by NAMBLA's detractors, but their own material.

And I can say that the opinions and arguments put forth in this Washington Post editorial are EXACTLY THE SAME ARGUMENTS THAT NAMBLA HAS BEEN USING FOR DECADES. Not just similar -- but exactly the same.

Ace points this out in his post, but some might see this just as Ace goofing around. But it is not just Ace goofing around.

NAMBLA's thesis is:

It's all about protecting the children. The trauma of the criminal charges and the trial are more traumatic than the sex act itself. We can end the trauma if we simply decriminalize the act. The kids actually want it. The kids are sexual sophisticates who are actually in control and who are the one who manipulate the adults into relationships. The kids want it -- want it more than we do. To deny their urges is to traumatize them. Adult-child sex happens all the time -- we are being unnatural to deny it or ostracize it. Etc. etc. etc.

All these points and more are both in the NAMBLA literature and the Washington Post piece.

The Washington Post is literally publishing NAMBLA propaganda.

Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2013 04:16 PM (+cx5n)

123 Just guessing, but is this scrunt a defense attorney...who just happens to defend sexual predators for a living?

She left the law and is "working" as a self-taught artist.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 31, 2013 04:17 PM (xSegX)

124 I hate knowing that I am absolutely capable of beating the living shit out of someone.

Posted by: tasker at August 31, 2013 04:15 PM (r2PLg)

We all are. Everyone has a breaking point. That point where uncontrollable rage completely takes over.

Someone messing with my underage daughter is, most assuredly, that point.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 31, 2013 04:17 PM (GEICT)

125 >>>If there is no straight forward law and punishment, vigilantism happens.

true.

an important point usually missed by the noncogniscenti

Posted by: ace at August 31, 2013 04:17 PM (/IWYB)

126 Posted by: Texas at August 31, 2013 04:16 PM (ELdpj)

It has to be with a dildo though, I want them to explain that away in hell

Posted by: The dude at August 31, 2013 04:17 PM (vJdyz)

127 This is why we mandated Kindergarten Sex Ed

So they can give their informed consent in first grade. Yeah, we get it.

Posted by: t-bird at August 31, 2013 04:18 PM (FcR7P)

128 What if someone were to take is teacher for a long car ride and then come back alone?

Posted by: EC at August 31, 2013 04:19 PM (doBIb)

129 I remember all your work on Jennings, zombie. This is that, for sure.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 31, 2013 04:19 PM (ZshNr)

130 this

Posted by: EC at August 31, 2013 04:19 PM (doBIb)

131 Why have any laws at all if the only function is to prevent crime? Laws exist to punish. Crime deterrence is, at best, secondary. Oh, well, rapers gonna rape.

Posted by: no good deed at August 31, 2013 04:19 PM (WmLrU)

132 I had an interesting conundrum a while back. Victim's mom is a junky whore. Victim lived with grandma and grandpa where she had a fairly normal life. Victim, about twelve, spent the night at a friends house where she was sexually fondled by the host's grandfather. I have every reason to believe that she is telling the truth.

A few months later she made a very similar allegation against another family friend. During that investigation, her grandfather told the police that he didn't believe her second allegation. (Neither did I. I think she liked the attention from the first incident including her mom coming back and decided to do it again.) Although Colorado has a rape shield statute, there is an exception for false allegations. If we take the first case to trial, the girl is going to find out that grandpa said she was a liar and destroy her most stable relationship. So do I plead this out to something the defendant would take or do i destroy this girl's relationship with her grandpa?

I talked to the cop about this dilemma and he told me to press on because this girl's life was ruined anyway what with the mom she had. It's not a pretty world. We are st for trial.,

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 31, 2013 04:19 PM (VlXYw)

133
One of the articles about this that I read a few days ago said she was heavily tormented by classmates over the affair. Young teen girls van be absolutely evil.
Posted by: Vic at August 31, 2013 04:16 PM (zZbNF)

***************

Sounds like that Canadian story awhile back.

Posted by: tasker at August 31, 2013 04:19 PM (r2PLg)

134 Anyone else get the vibe Betsy Karasik has some dark incidents in her past?

Posted by: zsasz at August 31, 2013 04:19 PM (MMC8r)

135 What if someone were to take is teacher for a long car ride and then come back alone?

Posted by: EC at August 31, 2013 04:19 PM (doBIb)

We lost all our registered teachers in a tragic boating accident.

Posted by: eman at August 31, 2013 04:20 PM (AO9UG)

136 Not only that, when they are working, it is only 'fair' that they be paid more than their labor is worth.
Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 31, 2013 04:10 PM (aDwsi)

I pointed out that lots of employers have rolled "maternity leave" into "short term disability". My wife got two months when she had our eldest.

"But that's only 8 weeks!!!!"

My response: "Of being paid like you're working, when you're not working."

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 31, 2013 04:20 PM (GEICT)

137 97 So what's this "She's over 18, she was drunk and horny and had sex with this guy and it's RAPE!" stuff all about?

They've been pulling that since I was in college in the early 90s. They want to conflate the idea of being tipsy with being unconscious.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 31, 2013 04:21 PM (xSegX)

138 Just by reading that shit I feel as if Betsy has somehow raped me. That article clearly is evidence that she should be forced to register as sex offender.

Posted by: Fritz at August 31, 2013 04:21 PM (KIHQS)

139 We all are. Everyone has a breaking point. That point where uncontrollable rage completely takes over.

Someone messing with my underage daughter is, most assuredly, that point.
Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 31, 2013 04:17 PM (GEICT)

**********

Well that--I was talking about the reporter that Lauren was referring to.

*shit*--I'm from the Balkans--sort of...

Posted by: tasker at August 31, 2013 04:22 PM (r2PLg)

140
My local Christian radio station had a guest this week who stated that when adolescent girls live in a household with a man present that is not her father ie: step father,mothers boyfriend,she matures faster both emotionally and physically.

Posted by: regular guy at August 31, 2013 04:22 PM (N3Al8)

141 I pointed out that lots of employers have rolled "maternity leave" into "short term disability". My wife got two months when she had our eldest.

My wife got...

#twoweeks.

Posted by: EC at August 31, 2013 04:22 PM (doBIb)

142 How old is President Say-Stuff's youngest daughter and does the author need a visa to be sent to North Korea for 'talks'?

Posted by: t-bird at August 31, 2013 04:22 PM (FcR7P)

143 to: 109My local Christian radio station had a guest this week who stated that when adolescent girls live in a household with a man present that is not her father ie: step father,mothers boyfriend,she matures faster both emotionally and physically

Posted by: regular guy at August 31, 2013 04:22 PM (N3Al8)

144 Careful folks, we're getting awful close to child molester shaming.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 31, 2013 04:23 PM (ZshNr)

145 My wife got...

#twoweeks.

Posted by: EC at August 31, 2013 04:22 PM (doBIb)

*Golf Clap*

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 31, 2013 04:23 PM (GEICT)

146 Incredible isn't it.

March to War Without Congress: (R) President bad, (D) President good
Exemption from BambiCare: Politically favored good, Everyone else bad
Child rape: Priest bad, Teacher good

This is what happens when you have no moral center, no principles and are generally ckufed in the ckufing head. We all have exceptions to our rules, absolutely. But libs foam at the mouth and try to "change society" with their nonstop ckufing outrage and then just blatantly try to get away with whatever they once foamed about. Sick ckufs.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 31, 2013 04:23 PM (4/o9U)

147 Going the full Caligula, hippies?

Hey,.....greaaaat.

Fuck off and die horribly, grizzly, useless and quickly forgotten deaths. Since I was after you, demographically, I will savor each and every hippie death, bemoaning those that do not suffer immensely.

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at August 31, 2013 04:24 PM (nlzJk)

148 I will kill ANY teacher that dares to mess with my daughters. The Popo will be the least of their concerns.

Posted by: Truck Monkey, Gruntled New Business Owner at August 31, 2013 04:24 PM (jucos)

149
Posted by: The dude at August 31, 2013 04:14 PM (vJdyz)
I'm leanin to the 4ft dildo

Posted by: Miley Cyrus at August 31, 2013 04:24 PM (N3Al8)

150 She's a lawyer but originally wanted to teach at Roman Polanski Middle School

Posted by: Bill Gates (pronounced B'ill Gat-Ez at August 31, 2013 04:25 PM (dSE0q)

151 Anyone else get the vibe Betsy Karasik has some dark incidents in her past?

Well her art is trite hippy vomit and she is homely, so dark incidents in her past may be the only truly interesting things about her.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 31, 2013 04:25 PM (Q9qpj)

152 She was brought up at the knee of some of the greats, and she liked it.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 31, 2013 04:26 PM (ZshNr)

153 And this article is, once again, another strong argument in favor of homeschooling your children.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 31, 2013 04:26 PM (OWjjx)

154
Posted by: 98ZJUSMC Waiting for the Sun at August 31, 2013 04:24 PM (nlzJk)

grisly

*sorry, pet peeve*

Posted by: Meremortal at August 31, 2013 04:26 PM (1Y+hH)

155 eman, must have been a very deep lake full of sharks.

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 31, 2013 04:26 PM (zogjM)

156 Arguably, the Catholic church's attempts to quietly deal with pedo priests was an attempt to spare the young victims from public humiliation and shaming. But I'd bet our WaPo friend here thinks that was awful.

Posted by: xbradtc at August 31, 2013 04:27 PM (cU35j)

157 147 "Fuck off and die horribly, grizzly, useless and quickly forgotten deaths. "

You probably meant "grisly death," but now that I look at it, a "grizzly death" would be an even more appropriate end for these creeps.

Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2013 04:27 PM (+cx5n)

158
" just let the father of the victim beat the perp to death"

We're good with that.

Posted by: Texas
------------------

That's what fathers and brothers are for.

That concept kind of went away during the Clinton/Lewinsky affair, and Condit/Levy affair, because, well, political philosophy is more important, and no one was killed, or something.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 31, 2013 04:27 PM (aDwsi)

159 I also wonder if this woman really remembers being 14. The power differential between a child and a teacher is enormous. Hell, the power differential between a freshman and an senior is enough to prevent the average 14 year old to really have the maturity to stand up to a sexual advancement by an older boy.

Now, I don't think that relationships between an 18 year old and a 14 year old are de facto rape, but even that relatively small age span is enough to make consent iffy. That's 4 years, not 34 years.

Posted by: Texas at August 31, 2013 04:27 PM (ELdpj)

160 It ain't rape if she lets you cum on her face

Posted by: The dude at August 31, 2013 04:27 PM (vJdyz)

161 does less to protect children than to assuage society’s need to feel that we are protecting them.

While we are at it, can we start discussing seat belt laws, child safety seat laws, bike helmet laws and a whole host of other nanny state rules, regulations and directions that are slowly but surely sucking the childhood out of our children.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 31, 2013 04:28 PM (OWjjx)

162 Someone messing with my underage daughter is, most assuredly, that point.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 31, 2013

And I define underage as under thirty.

My lawn. Absent thyself.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 31, 2013 04:29 PM (Q9qpj)

163 I really suck at taking off socks.

Posted by: Lauren at August 31, 2013 04:29 PM (ELdpj)

164 eman, must have been a very deep lake full of sharks.
Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 31, 2013 04:26 PM (zogjM)

Indeed it was so.

It wasn't a complete tragedy; the sharks dined well, though several did become ill later.

Posted by: eman at August 31, 2013 04:29 PM (AO9UG)

165 26 Who's up for ice cream in hell?

Does that mean hell will be launching missiles?

Posted by: Anachronda at August 31, 2013 04:30 PM (U82Km)

166 That concept kind of went away during the Clinton/Lewinsky affair, and Condit/Levy affair, because, well, political philosophy is more important, and no one was killed, or something.

Well,in the case of Lewinsky, Dr. Lewinsky was a devout Donk and what few public statements he made tended to throw his own daughter under the bus instead of any actual defense of her....er...."honor". Hell, he probably thought it was some type of honor to have the President of the United States treat his daughter as a 2 bit whore.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 31, 2013 04:30 PM (OWjjx)

167 And I define underage as under thirty.

My lawn. Absent thyself.
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 31, 2013 04:29 PM (Q9qpj)

I keep telling my wife I'm putting our girls in a convent. No one's interested in the girls.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 31, 2013 04:30 PM (GEICT)

168 Pope Paul VI's encyclical "Humane Vitae" is as relevant today as it was when first published in 1968.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/9km3

Posted by: mrp at August 31, 2013 04:30 PM (HjPtV)

169 Sandusky's victims according to him all consented. Stupid bint.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at August 31, 2013 04:30 PM (Xfofp)

170 163 I really suck at taking off socks.

Posted by: Lauren at August 31, 2013 04:29 PM (ELdpj)

I completely and utterly misread that at first.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 31, 2013 04:30 PM (GEICT)

171 I also wonder if this woman really remembers being 14.

Posted by: Texas

She's a leftist; she's always fourteen.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 31, 2013 04:30 PM (3CiXB)

172 Related: remember Jessica Lunsford, the little girl who was abducted from her grandparents' home, raped and buried alive by one John Couey? For some reason, out of all the reports of monsters who have done harm to children, that story has stayed with me.

Couey was found guilty and sentenced to death. But I just looked him up to see if he had been executed and found out that he died before the sentence could be carried out.

Cause of death: anal cancer.

Trying not to LMAO. God is the Great Comedian.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 31, 2013 04:31 PM (Tnlh/)

173 131
Why have any laws at all if the only function is to prevent crime? Laws
exist to punish. Crime deterrence is, at best, secondary. Oh, well,
rapers gonna rape.

Also, bonus, a child raper in prison is raping exactly 0 children while he's in there.

Posted by: Splunge at August 31, 2013 04:31 PM (bKA83)

174 We take no formal position on this matter, except to note American made candy is a traditional way to get to know your 14 year old paramours. In your car. At recess. Candy- don't forget the candy.

Posted by: American Candy Manufacturers Association at August 31, 2013 04:31 PM (qf2kI)

175 @politicoroger
Obama putting boots on the golf course. Playing today with Biden at Fort Belvoir.

What a hero.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 31, 2013 04:31 PM (3CiXB)

176 "The local newspaper described the serial molestation of a 7 year old by
her male teacher over the period of 3 months as a 'ongoing
relationship.'
7. Years. Old."

God, I thought my local fishwrap (the _Scam Scumfrisco Commie-cle_) was bad.

That's so far beyond bad that I would be out there going personally to every local business which advertises in the rag and saying, "You pull your ad trade from them or I'm out here with picketers next week, right in front, handing out leaflets with the quote in question."

Posted by: torquewrench at August 31, 2013 04:31 PM (gqT4g)

177 Barky going full-on political, as I see it. He has seen the polls, knows this is a loser among his base. The great thing about looking for 'Congressional Approval' is that he will never get it. THEN, those GOP who resist involvement can be accused of standing by while children were gassed, etc.
War On Children (tm)

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 31, 2013 04:31 PM (aDwsi)

178 Is anyone surprised by this?

The schools are tossing out free condoms to elementary schoolers and are teaching them techniques because the kids are going to do it anyways, right?

The right to control one's own body such as with reproduction (i.e. abortion) has already been established for pre-teens or pretty much anyone who is capable or reproducing.

With age of consent laws in opposition to all that, is it any wonder that they will eventually fall?

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 31, 2013 04:32 PM (Vk2pI)

179 I also wonder if this woman really remembers being 14.

She doesn't. None of us do. We project our own maturity onto our younger selves.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 31, 2013 04:32 PM (xSegX)

180
Do people who write this kind of article really believe what they write, or are they merely trying to be hip, edgy, and provocative? Are those two possibilities even mutually exclusive?
Both. For a certain group of people, ideological consistency is not important. Their entire self-worth and standing in their social circle is based on having the most provocative viewpoints. Whether or not they believe it at first, eventually they come to truly believe this crap.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 31, 2013 04:32 PM (k8u3n)

181 172 Related: remember Jessica Lunsford, the little girl who was abducted from her grandparents' home, raped and buried alive by one John Couey? For some reason, out of all the reports of monsters who have done harm to children, that story has stayed with me.

Couey was found guilty and sentenced to death. But I just looked him up to see if he had been executed and found out that he died before the sentence could be carried out.

Cause of death: anal cancer.

Trying not to LMAO. God is the Great Comedian.
Posted by: baldilocks at August 31, 2013 04:31 PM (Tnlh/)

I know "of" the case. There's a "Jessica Lunsford Act" that controls who is or isn't allowed on school campuses to perform work. If we do any work on school campuses, I have to provide background checks on any employee that might work there.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 31, 2013 04:32 PM (GEICT)

182 The tragedy of young (too young) ladies is that they look the same as the MILF's at the beach, until you've looked long enough to see clearly, at which point you've already looked too long. Thank you, Oakley, for wraparound sunglasses.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 31, 2013 04:33 PM (ZshNr)

183 How dare you insult us like that!

Posted by: North American Marlon Brando Look Alikes at August 31, 2013 04:33 PM (Vk2pI)

184 Soon...

Posted by: Pedobear at August 31, 2013 04:33 PM (Vk2pI)

185 "Cause of death: anal cancer. "

Awesome.

Posted by: Lauren at August 31, 2013 04:33 PM (ELdpj)

186 Lefty thought process. 14 years old is old enough to consent (unless your drunk, I guess) to have sex with your teacher but damn, buying health insurance is too costly and too difficult for your average 26 year old.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 31, 2013 04:33 PM (OWjjx)

187 31 A bezoar is an unsanitary mass of impacted material in the gastrointestinal tract.

Nonsense. Everyone knows a bezoar is one of those big-ass pills that Harry Potter made Ron Weasley swallow after he drank the poison wine (given to him by a teacher, but, like, totes OK because the age of majority is different in the wizarding world).

Posted by: Anachronda at August 31, 2013 04:34 PM (U82Km)

188 Thanks for stopping by. Did you sign the visitor's log? We're going to use that list for pardons...

Posted by: Baraka Hussein I at August 31, 2013 04:36 PM (FcR7P)

189 That cancer was nothing compared to a barbed cock five times a day.

Posted by: Zombie Couey at August 31, 2013 04:37 PM (Aif/5)

190 Nice work Ace. I originally saw this at TOM and I'm glad you covered it as well. The comment I originally made about the author of the op-ed is still relevant, She needs to have her brain washed with trinitrotoluene. I say that as the parent of girls in that age bracket.

Posted by: Joethefatman™ (@joethefatman1) at August 31, 2013 04:37 PM (MnSla)

191 And I just saw on Twitchy that Gaylord Focker referred to the US military as 'my military' in a speech on Syria.

Really? So changed the oath of enlistment to read "I swear to our Dear Leader to serve blindly and willingly as his cannon fodder in whatever mess he throws me into."

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 31, 2013 04:37 PM (zogjM)

192 Posted by: baldilocks at August 31, 2013 04:31 PM (Tnlh/)

Thanks for the feelgood story, baldi.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 31, 2013 04:38 PM (4/o9U)

193 One other thing, sex offense run the gamut from fairly minor Filner type behavior to absolutely horrible John Couey behavior. There are far more of the relatively minor offense than the truly awful offense but oftentimes with the fondling type cases there is no physical evidence and the case is essentially the victim's word against the defendant's word. That reminds me of an old Oscar Wilde quote to the effect that it was impossible to convict anyone of sodomy because eleven jurors don't think anyone would do that and the twelfth is doing it. Wilde was wrong, though, and he was convicted of sodomy.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 31, 2013 04:38 PM (VlXYw)

194
See? This is exactly what I'm talking about!!

Posted by: Dirk Wunderlich at August 31, 2013 04:39 PM (N3Al8)

195 191 And I just saw on Twitchy that Gaylord Focker referred to the US military as 'my military' in a speech on Syria.

Really? So changed the oath of enlistment to read "I swear to our Dear Leader to serve blindly and willingly as his cannon fodder in whatever mess he throws me into."
Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 31, 2013 04:37 PM (zogjM)

Hail Caesar!

Posted by: EC at August 31, 2013 04:39 PM (doBIb)

196

Suez Canal Authority reports a "failed terrorist attack" on a container ship. Canal traffic not affected.

Prezzy ChickenPants in bunker on the 7th hole.

Posted by: Meremortal at August 31, 2013 04:39 PM (1Y+hH)

197 100% of pedophiles agree.

Posted by: zsasz at August 31, 2013 04:16 PM (MMC8r)

Not to be overly technical, but pedophile refers to a sexual desire aimed at pre-pubescent children.

Ephebophilia is the primary or exclusive sexual preference by an older person for a girl in mid-to-late adolescence—the consummation of which is illegal in most jurisdictions. Basically what most would call jailbait. The attraction is for partners who have mostly adult features but retain some juvenile characteristics.

Hebephilia is the primary or exclusive sexual preference by an older person for a girl in early-to-late adolescence. The attraction is for partners who have adult physical sexual characteristics, but retain more of a juvinile appearance.

While what is and is not legal or socially acceptable had and still does vary, the emphasis on legalization will start with ephebophilia while denying it has to do with pre-schoolers. Thus the slippery slope.

The thing is, that the Left wants to treat most adults like children, so this view towards sex with a minor is actually quite consistent with their core ethos.

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 31, 2013 04:40 PM (Vk2pI)

198 Epic epic takedown, Ace. I read that article last night and almost fell out of my chair. We keep inching ever closer to reenacting the beginning of Brave New World in real life; glad that ppl are pushing back against this darkness, for however long society lets us.

Posted by: LizLem at August 31, 2013 04:40 PM (6ll+l)

199 Why all the fuss? If 14 year old boys are supposedly off limits why should 14 year old girls be off limits. Just thinking out loud.

Posted by: Hairy Reid at August 31, 2013 04:41 PM (GgPam)

200 Anna Puma, it's the second time he has said something like that. The first time was during a speech on the repeal of DADT where he referred to the troops out there "fighting on my behalf."

Posted by: no good deed at August 31, 2013 04:42 PM (WmLrU)

201
And I just saw on Twitchy that Gaylord Focker referred to the US military as 'my military' in a speech on Syria.

Really?
So changed the oath of enlistment to read "I swear to our Dear Leader
to serve blindly and willingly as his cannon fodder in whatever mess he
throws me into."

Posted by: Chelsea Puma
-------------------------------

He thinks of the military in the same way that Assad or Putin might, and the way that Mubarak *used* to think of it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 31, 2013 04:42 PM (aDwsi)

202 Leftist logic:

Sex between minors and Catholic priests: unspeakably evil.

Sex between minors and cool, hip teachers: fun, natural.

Hmm, you think they hate the Church because of something else? Like their stance on abortion?

Posted by: pj at August 31, 2013 04:43 PM (ZWaLo)

203 I blame Blurred Lines.

Posted by: CAC at August 31, 2013 04:44 PM (U1HQ+)

204 Hail Caesar!
Posted by: EC at August 31, 2013 04:39 PM (doBIb)

More like hail xerxes.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 31, 2013 04:44 PM (GEICT)

205 When we wuz in power this kind a business could never be tolerated

Posted by: Vito Vasalino retired mob capo at August 31, 2013 04:44 PM (N3Al8)

206 191
And I just saw on Twitchy that Gaylord Focker referred to the US military as 'my military' in a speech on Syria.

Really?
So changed the oath of enlistment to read "I swear to our Dear Leader
to serve blindly and willingly as his cannon fodder in whatever mess he
throws me into."

Oh, there's a historical precedent for that. Maybe he can use the oath that guy used, with a few edits:

"I swear by God this sacred oath: I will render unconditional obedience
to (Barack Obama), the Führer of the (American) Reich and people, Supreme
Commander of the Armed Forces, and will be ready as a brave soldier to
risk my life at any time for this oath."

Posted by: Splunge at August 31, 2013 04:45 PM (bKA83)

207 Ace, you keep saying "and this woman is a LAWYER" as if that's supposed to mitigate this type of thinking. No, she thinks this way BECAUSE she is a lawyer, and outside the warped ethics of that profession, has no idea how humans are supposed to behave.

That's one of those things I'm looking forward to, when the burning times come. There will be no use whatsoever for lawyers, except maybe as a food source... of last resort.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2013 04:45 PM (BeSEI)

208 He thinks of the military in the same way that Assad or Putin might, and the way that Mubarak *used* to think of it.

Like a set of GI Joe's. I'm sure Kim Jung Un can relate.

Posted by: t-bird at August 31, 2013 04:45 PM (FcR7P)

209 203 I blame Blurred Lines.

Posted by: CAC at August 31, 2013 04:44 PM (U1HQ+)

Boobehs are the cause and answer to most of life's issues.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 31, 2013 04:45 PM (GEICT)

210 no good deed and Mike Hammer. Its the Oriental model of rule. The masses are masses to be used at the whim of the god-emperor. Like Xerxes to Lil Kim today.

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 31, 2013 04:45 PM (zogjM)

211
I blame Blurred Lines.

Posted by: CAC
---------------------------------

Wait..., I've got to back up to the football thread and check out the cheerleaders again. My line may have been blurry there...

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 31, 2013 04:46 PM (aDwsi)

212 207
Ace, you keep saying "and this woman is a LAWYER" as if that's supposed
to mitigate this type of thinking. No, she thinks this way BECAUSE she
is a lawyer, and outside the warped ethics of that profession, has no
idea how humans are supposed to behave.

I think he kept saying it because this woman kept stupidly acting as though she had no clue about the purpose of law, despite her profession. It was actually one of my favorite parts of this epic takedown.

Posted by: Splunge at August 31, 2013 04:47 PM (bKA83)

213 There will be no use whatsoever for lawyers, except maybe as a food source... of last resort.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2013 04:45 PM (BeSEI)

Soylent Green (Lawyer Variety Pack!)

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 31, 2013 04:47 PM (XdnQT)

214 "Hmm, you think they hate the Church because of something else? Like their stance on abortion?"

Yes, that and because the simple existence of the Church is an awesome (in the original sense of the word) reproach to their enthusiastic participation in the Culture of Death.

Posted by: mrp at August 31, 2013 04:47 PM (HjPtV)

215 Boobehs are the cause and answer to most of life's issues.

Posted by: BCochran
------------------------

Well..., it isn't as though male parts are wholly innocent.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 31, 2013 04:47 PM (aDwsi)

216 163, so you're a socksucker?

Posted by: Steve Skubinna at August 31, 2013 04:48 PM (pnUTv)

217 Well..., it isn't as though male parts are wholly innocent.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 31, 2013 04:47 PM (aDwsi)

Stop distracting me from Boobehs with your logic.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 31, 2013 04:49 PM (GEICT)

218 About ten years ago I went to a party with a friend. At the party another friend of hers was there, and she introduced us. The friend-of-a-friend's name was "Gail."

We three stood around and chatted for a while, sipping wine, and through the course of the conversation I came to realize that the person I was talking to was Gayle Rubin.

When the topic slowly drifted toward the best ways to groom girls on softball teams for initiation into the "scene," I literally started trembling and quickly departed the conversation and the party without another word.

I never spoke to that friend again. She still doesn't know why.

Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2013 04:49 PM (+cx5n)

219 I teach high school. I see the moral decayfrom the front lines. So many kids have absentee fathers, moms who are on their third or fourth marriage, one kid who is rumored to sell drugs with his dad because mom is in prison for drug dealing. It makes me sick because I know that these kids would be low hanging fruit to sicko predators.

Posted by: Jmel at August 31, 2013 04:49 PM (cfFqn)

220 as though she had no clue about the purpose of law, despite her profession.

For lawyers, isn't the law merely an obstacle? Something to be argued around?

Posted by: t-bird at August 31, 2013 04:50 PM (FcR7P)

221 Oops. Posted this one on the home-schooling thread by mistake: http://thedailysmug.blogspot.ca/2013/08/obama-supporteranti-fracking-activist.html

It isn't just teachers that want to diddle kids....

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2013 04:50 PM (60Q+L)

222 When the topic slowly drifted toward the best ways to groom girls on softball teams for initiation into the "scene," I literally started trembling and quickly departed the conversation and the party without another word.

I never spoke to that friend again. She still doesn't know why.

Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2013 04:49 PM (+cx5n)

I assume that I don't want to know what this "scene" is?

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 31, 2013 04:52 PM (Vk2pI)

223
One other thing, sex offense run the gamut from fairly minor Filner type behavior to absolutely horrible John Couey behavior. There are far more of the relatively minor offense than the truly awful offense but oftentimes with the fondling type cases there is no physical evidence and the case is essentially the victim's word against the defendant's word. That reminds me of an old Oscar Wilde quote to the effect that it was impossible to convict anyone of sodomy because eleven jurors don't think anyone would do that and the twelfth is doing it. Wilde was wrong, though, and he was convicted of sodomy.
One of the reasons that society has traditionally imposed shame ongirls whoengage in risky behavior, or on men whoact a certain way around girls,isbecauseof the difficulty in dealing with these cases in a court of law.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 31, 2013 04:53 PM (k8u3n)

224 Now the whole early sex ed. and condoms/Plan B at school makes perfect sense. Grooming.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2013 04:53 PM (UsjVC)

225
Hmm, you think they hate the Church because of something else? Like their stance on abortion?

And gays.

Posted by: zsasz at August 31, 2013 04:54 PM (MMC8r)

226 And that zombie, is why I have no tolerance for the LGBTQers who insist that every gay behavior is a predestined genetic necessity. It's not. They recruit. In schools, on teams, off the street. That's reality and they know it. But they can't admit it or their garbage "Civil Rights" complaints are moot.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 31, 2013 04:54 PM (ZshNr)

227 Strange to me that although it is "obvious" that irresponsible people might choose to smoke illegal substances (so let's legalize them), fornicate with other people's wives (already de facto decriminalized), drink too much (oh wait, MADD will criminalize 0.01% blood alcohol is allowed, so bad example), and to have sex with minors placed in their care (so let's worry about the adult perpetrators and decriminalize that too),

BUT even though RESPONSIBLE people might choose to have guns and handle them safely, we cannot under any circumstances allow that to happen!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 31, 2013 04:54 PM (XdnQT)

228 Rep. Mike Turner (R-OH), the chairman of the House Armed Services Committee’s subcommittee on Tactical Air and Land forces, said on Saturday that he will block any efforts by President Barack Obama to procure funding to attack Syria until he reverses sequestration cuts to the military.

“The President has failed to make the case to the American people,” Turner said in a statement on Saturday. “There are significant risks to launching an attack on Syria and we don’t know who we are fighting for.”

“The President has mishandled this situation from the very beginning and shown a complete lack of leadership with his imaginary redline,” he explained. “I will not support any funding request for an attack until the President acts to remove the burdens of sequestration from our military.”

Good! Now let's see you stick to it and stick to obama.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2013 04:54 PM (jE38p)

229 The Tree of Liberty needs a 'refresher course'

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at August 31, 2013 04:55 PM (Pr6hk)

230 Then there is this f'ing guy: (stolen from HA)

An admitted serial rapist who attacked 38 women in California could
be a free man within weeks after the state’s Supreme Court denied
prosecutors’ requests to block his release from a state mental hospital.

Christopher Hubbart, a sexually violent predator dubbed the
“Pillowcase Rapist,” has spent nearly two decades in mental institutions
after admitting to sexually assaulting more than three dozen women
throughout California between 1971 and 1982, often putting pillowcases
over victims’ heads to muffle their screams. Los Angeles County District
Attorney Jackie Lacey petitioned the state Supreme Court in July to
block Hubbart’s release, but the justice’s rejected her request on
Wednesday without comment..... \

As I mentioned, this story would be bad enough if Hubbart were just some
monster that we caught and locked up, but this convoluted story should
be the focus of a larger question of how we deal with serial
recidivists. After his first spree of 29 rapes in the 70s, Hubbart was
put in a “medical facility.” Then, in 1979, he was released when
officials determined that he “no longer posed a threat to the public.”
He immediately moved north, attacking multiple women in San Francisco
and Sunnyvale before being caught – again – and being sent to – you
guessed it – a mental hospital. He was paroled a third time in 1990,
whereupon he – surprise, surprise – attacked a female jogger and was
taken into state care yet again. Now he’s going to be released.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 31, 2013 04:55 PM (lnFK0)

231 It is a simple reality (with apologies to the moron lawyers) that one of the very first things that a law students learns is that for every argument there is a counter argument. It need not be logical, real, or even believable, it simply needs to be spoken. Among my lawyer friends, this quality often manifests itself. The simplest discussion (once the switch in their head flips) can devolve into lawyerly BS.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 31, 2013 04:56 PM (aDwsi)

232 the best ways to groom girls on softball teams for initiation into the "scene,"

Yet they all pretty much deny engaging in active recruitment efforts...

Once you have that final recruitment piece in place, there's little practical difference in trappings from organized religion other than the absence of deity, which is only a minor detail.

Posted by: Manifesto de Purp at August 31, 2013 04:56 PM (2BHYC)

233 Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2013 04:49 PM (+cx5n)

She is about the vilest example of militant homosexuality that I can think of.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 31, 2013 04:56 PM (gqgiP)

234 One intersting refutation of the whole 'homosexuality is genetics' is the Kray brothers of the UK. Big hulking identical twins from the worst part of London who rose in the 1960s to running the criminal underworld and getting Hollywood actors to seek them out. And one was homosexual while the other was cis-gender. When they can explain that one, well good luck.

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 31, 2013 04:57 PM (zogjM)

235 I recall a creepy math teacher in 9th grade who has a reputation for being a bit "handsy." A classmate turned him in for sticking his hand in her back pocket (like a boyfriend would do instead of holding hands) while assist her after class. He was fired and all of us were a bit relieved. Guess we were just holding to too-high standards, because a harsh things like firing doesn't work...except it did. We were free from his leering and grabiness.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2013 04:57 PM (UsjVC)

236 Hmm, you think they hate the Church because of something else? Like their stance on abortion?

More of they hate the whole 'sense of purpose and freedom beyond the almighty state'

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at August 31, 2013 04:57 PM (Pr6hk)

237 Yo, CBD, I've got a couple food questions for you. Email?

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 31, 2013 04:58 PM (GEICT)

238 I wonder if the School System will hire a 70 year old to be a high-school teacher???

Posted by: Mayor Bob Filner at August 31, 2013 04:58 PM (Pr6hk)

239
I never spoke to that friend again. She still doesn't know why.Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2013 04:49 PM (+cx5n) My recommendation is that you tell her. One: if she was a friendthe decent thing is to let her know why you don't want any contactand two: this crap needs to be confronted. Otherwise progressives simply exist in an echo chamber and believe that everyone thinks the same way that they do.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 31, 2013 04:58 PM (k8u3n)

240 222 I assume that I don't want to know what this "scene" is?
Posted by: The Political Hat

Well, the lesbian S/M "power exchange" scene, to be exact. But the first step was simply getting the (high school age) softball team girls into bed, as a way of awaking and then cementing their gay identity.

From there, little by little, they would be led into dominant or submissive roles, depending on how butch they are.

From the way my "friends" were talking, it seemed almost more like the act of seducing young girls was more of a dispassionate political recruitment than an act of lust. Which made it even more creepy.

Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2013 04:59 PM (+cx5n)

241 Hmm, you think they hate the Church because of something else? Like their stance on abortion?

And gays.

Nah... liberals HATE gays. That's why gay stuff is always a go-to insult for people they don't like. They hate minorities, too. Everyone is just a vote to them. Don't be fooled for even a second.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 31, 2013 04:59 PM (4/o9U)

242 hey zombie....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 31, 2013 04:59 PM (8JJ6O)

243 Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 31, 2013 04:58 PM (GEICT)

nynjmeet at optoimum dot net

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 31, 2013 04:59 PM (gqgiP)

244 I once read that in your first year in law school you are taught that you will never be a good lawyer unless you can credibly make the "kettle defense."

It goes like this: your client is accused of borrowing a kettle, and returning it in a damaged condition. So you argue that:

1) my client never borrowed the kettle,
2) my client never damaged the kettle, and
3) the kettle was already damaged when my client borrowed it.

Posted by: Steve Skubinna at August 31, 2013 05:00 PM (pnUTv)

245 That would be nynjmeet at optimum dot net

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 31, 2013 05:00 PM (gqgiP)

246 Oops. Posted this one on the home-schooling thread by mistake: http://thedailysmug.blogspot.ca/2013/08/obama-supporteranti-fracking-activist.html

It isn't just teachers that want to diddle kids....

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 31, 2013 04:50 PM (60Q+L)

It is the Left's drive to keep the hoi polloi at perpetual adolescence. Give them a few accouterments of adulthood (f**king, booze, &c.), and they'll happily stay dependent on the state (which has assumed the role of ~~mommy and daddy~~ non-gender specific caregiver and provider.

They get all the fun stuff and don't have to worry about the responsibility. Before, you had to become a responsible adult and work hard for those accouterments of adulthood. Now because people can get them easily, they don't actually have to become adults.

By providing these things early and often, social development is stopped.

Thus the only difference between an 18+ year old and an adolescent, or even a kid, is a physical difference. Thus in a world where the difference between the biological sexes is just a matter of a few superficial parts (since "gender is just a social construct"), becomes just a slight difference in appearance like between the races or between someone tall or short. The physical differences between child and adult are thus seen as minor and bigoted to point out.

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 31, 2013 05:00 PM (Vk2pI)

247 You've reached the Lord of Hosts. I'm not available to take your call right now. Please leave a message and I'll get back to you as soon I can.

If you're calling about Betsy Karasik's op-ed piece in the Washington Post, I'm on it. Her framed law degree is going to fall from the wall and cut her jugular. And the hit-trolling Washington Post? Sold by Jeff Bezos to Al Jazeera.

Anyway, Go Irish!

God, out...

Posted by: God's Voice Mail at August 31, 2013 05:00 PM (kyAWi)

248 Would you let Betsy Karasik babysit your children?

"...she chose those words, edited those words, resolved upon those words for her final draft."

Perhaps a FIFY would be simply "she chose those words." Edit? Resolve? Much less reflect? rewrite? You presume the difference between "first" and "final" means anything except "after blindly running spelling-correction."

Continuing to read through this Fisking of her rambling substantiates this theory. (Much better than reading the original, too.)

...vast and extremely nuanced continuum of sexual interactions involving teachers and students you guys! And yet, all of it, from flirting to whatever, wrong. Huh.

Also, a friend remembers being on some really clean windowpane when he saw Nuanced Continuum open for Moby Grape.

The tangent on Murder was quite a riff in itself. ("People like killing each other a whole heck of a lot." -heh. Yeah, and ain't morality a funny thing? There's some who would never seriously consider even so much as keying a car -- even a Prius with Obama and Co-Exist bumper stickers.)

Not that it can't happen in private schools, but the public schools seem to be an especially good breeding ground (no pun intended) for this. Now add the "everybody should attend public school" Gestapo, and the "your children belong to the village" kidnappers.

The World Union of Communist Indoctrinators vs. a tiny cadre of Indy Ed resisters: those who want to subjugate the family and indoctrinate the children, opposed by those who want to preserve and perpetuate their family's values. IIRC, some old Russian guy once noted something about controlling young minds....

Posted by: Hey, mindful webworker! The Principal wants to see you! at August 31, 2013 05:01 PM (U13jb)

249 226 And that zombie, is why I have no tolerance for the LGBTQers who insist that every gay behavior is a predestined genetic necessity. It's not. They recruit. In schools, on teams, off the street. That's reality and they know it. But they can't admit it or their garbage "Civil Rights" complaints are moot.
Posted by: Lincolntf

This was the only time I really directly witnessed it in person. To be frank, I'm still trembling, ten years later.

Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2013 05:02 PM (+cx5n)

250 TPH there is even a better 'control' out there now. The Internet and the games that go with it.

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 31, 2013 05:03 PM (zogjM)

251 I remember back when I was an ignorant idiot who didn't know anything about politics (read: default liberal, except never voted or cared) and I signed up for a Criminology course in college. I genuinely thought it was going to be about the best way to fry the ****ing bastards. Imagine my surprise when I realized it was an entire school of thought devoted to excusing criminal behavior, blaming the innocent and teaching a demented (non-Christian) kind of "compassion" for those that seek to do us harm.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 31, 2013 05:03 PM (4/o9U)

252 235 -

Makes me think of the picture Ace posted on the Robin Thicke post last night. In the foreground, Thicke is posing with a hot blonde chick, in the background you see a mirror, in which you can see the reflection of Thicke's hand tucked up between the butt cheeks of said hot chick.

Did she ask for that? Was it something she expected, when she asked to have her picture taken with him, or was it just the price she had to pay?

How is Thicke any different from a handsy high school teacher, or Filthy Filner?

Answer is, he's not. But he's a huge pop star, so he can do that, and no one is going to say anything about it.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2013 05:03 PM (BeSEI)

253 Posted by: Steve Skubinna at August 31, 2013 05:00 PM (pnUTv)

For lawyers, the codicil is

4. Bill by the hour!

A similar set of rules from some friends of mine was

1. Admit nothing!
2. Deny everything!
3. Make counter accusations!

For lawyers, the codicil is

4. Bill by the quarter hour!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 31, 2013 05:05 PM (XdnQT)

254 Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2013 05:03 PM (BeSEI)

Thicke was fondling an adult.

Teachers fondle children.

There is a very big difference.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 31, 2013 05:05 PM (gqgiP)

255 Hold it..., it just came to me. This babe has been painting for years. Fumes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer at August 31, 2013 05:05 PM (aDwsi)

256 Did she ask for that? Was it something she expected, when she asked to have her picture taken with him, or was it just the price she had to pay?

How is Thicke any different from a handsy high school teacher, or Filthy Filner?

Answer is, he's not. But he's a huge pop star, so he can do that, and no one is going to say anything about it.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2013 05:03 PM (BeSEI)

As I said in that thread, he has always given me the predator vibe.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 31, 2013 05:05 PM (Tnlh/)

257 252 235 -

Makes me think of the picture Ace posted on the Robin Thicke post last night. In the foreground, Thicke is posing with a hot blonde chick, in the background you see a mirror, in which you can see the reflection of Thicke's hand tucked up between the butt cheeks of said hot chick.

Did she ask for that? Was it something she expected, when she asked to have her picture taken with him, or was it just the price she had to pay?

How is Thicke any different from a handsy high school teacher, or Filthy Filner?

Answer is, he's not. But he's a huge pop star, so he can do that, and no one is going to say anything about it.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2013 05:03 PM (BeSEI)

His wife might.

Posted by: eman at August 31, 2013 05:05 PM (AO9UG)

258 The double facepalm award for molestation under color of teaching authority this month has to go to a certain female high school teacher down in Florida, who was repeatedly coming on to her underage male pupils, and offering them drugs and better grades in exchange for sex.

Among her communications to one of her former victims was this gem:

"I think I love this not being you teacher anymore".

She was employed as an ENGLISH teacher.

So: hand over your kids to the unionized public schools. Where they can be diddled and given drugs by adults who aren't even literate in the language which they propose to "teach".

Posted by: torquewrench at August 31, 2013 05:06 PM (gqT4g)

259 239 My recommendation is that you tell her. One: if she was a friendthe decent thing is to let her know why you don't want any contactand two: this crap needs to be confronted. Otherwise progressives simply exist in an echo chamber and believe that everyone thinks the same way that they do.
Posted by: Colorado Alex

Personal confrontation is not my long suit. In fact, I'm terrible at it. People have called me "brave" before (in relation to my blogging), but in reality I am cowardly when it comes to telling people off in person.

I console myself by hoping that my former friend suspects the reasons why I cut her off, and my absolute silence is even more emotionally devastating than any kludgy in-person huff would have been.

Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2013 05:07 PM (+cx5n)

260
His wife might.
-----

Nah.

Posted by: Mrs Thicke, counting the money in between diddling the pool boy at August 31, 2013 05:07 PM (Aif/5)

261 Zombie, that's really creepy! I have no idea who this Gayle person is but it confirms my longtime suspicion that all of the Ken Jennings 'tolerance in the form of teaching fisting technique' to teens is recruitment. Ick, ick, ick.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2013 05:07 PM (UsjVC)

262 Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2013 05:03 PM (BeSEI)

the hot chick is a socialite who knows thicke

from perez hilton (who is a creep)

http://tinyurl.com/pwcq7p9

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 31, 2013 05:07 PM (8JJ6O)

263 There's some that's naturally occurring and that's fine. I got no problem with that.

But, there's another segment where its more like a cult religion with recruitment of the weak minded and active reprisal protocols against defectors and leakers.

Zombie -- you met a defacto cult religion leader face to face. I can see how its still disturbing 10 years later.

Posted by: Manifesto de Purp at August 31, 2013 05:09 PM (2BHYC)

264 259, you may have something there, zombie. A one-off denunciation could easily be dismissed with a smirky "Huh, guess it's that time of the month, huh?"

A decade long boycott cannot be dismissed as a snit. If she suspects the thought might be nagging her "Man, she's really still pissed off. Wonder if I crossed some line?"

Posted by: Steve Skubinna at August 31, 2013 05:10 PM (pnUTv)

265 233

She is about the vilest example of militant homosexuality that I can think of.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

All of her high-flung philosophizing is simply a mask to justify her personal perversions.

Nothing is more dangerous than a highly intelligent degenerate.

Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2013 05:10 PM (+cx5n)

266 254 Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2013 05:03 PM (BeSEI)

Thicke was fondling an adult.

Teachers fondle children.

There is a very big difference.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 31, 2013 05:05 PM (gqgiP)

Indeed there is, but there are parallels, too.

Abuse if power and expectations of privilege.

Posted by: eman at August 31, 2013 05:11 PM (AO9UG)

267 254 -

Not really. It's about power. You don't stick your hand up women's bums (I assume) because they wouldn't let you, and if you tried they would use whatever power they have to stop you, and get you in trouble.

Thicke is using the same power dynamic as the high school teacher or the Mayor of San Diego (or President of the United States during the 90s). He has it all, and the women have none. So they have to take it, whether they asked for it or not, whether they are old enough to legally consent or not.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2013 05:11 PM (BeSEI)

268 Yet another Aged Bent Hippie here to tell us all dirty stories about the dawn of Free Love and the Steam Engine.

I laughed out loud, now, get off my lawn!

Posted by: toby928© One comment, Vasili, one comment only please at August 31, 2013 05:11 PM (QupBk)

269 Personal confrontation is not my long suit. In fact, I'm terrible at it. People have called me "brave" before (in relation to my blogging), but in reality I am cowardly when it comes to telling people off in person.

I console myself by hoping that my former friend suspects the reasons why I cut her off, and my absolute silence is even more emotionally devastating than any kludgy in-person huff would have been.Posted by: zombie at August 31, 2013 05:07 PM (+cx5n) I understand, and it's completely your choice. I just mentioned it because I've had friends cut off communication without any explanation why, and I hated not knowing what I did. If you hate discussing in person, there's always writing a letter.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 31, 2013 05:12 PM (k8u3n)

270 Where was this woman when Catholic High School priests were raked over the coals for having sex with their students, male or female? Those kids had a great time and, eventually, a great payday too?

For this, many dioceses were just about bankrupted? Who knew it was GOOD for those students?

Absolute BS. It's about differences in power vectors, you ignorant dork. HS students are sexually active, but their teachers need to LEAVE THEM the hell ALONE.

Posted by: MRybel at August 31, 2013 05:12 PM (HZWyD)

271 Wait... Ken Jennings was the Jeopardy guy.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 31, 2013 05:12 PM (4/o9U)

272 Zombie has been at this a long time, I'm sure they're fine.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 31, 2013 05:13 PM (ZshNr)

273 Not really. It's about power. You don't stick your hand up women's bums (I assume) because they wouldn't let you, and if you tried they would use whatever power they have to stop you, and get you in trouble.

Thicke is using the same power dynamic as the high school teacher or the Mayor of San Diego (or President of the United States during the 90s). He has it all, and the women have none. So they have to take it, whether they asked for it or not, whether they are old enough to legally consent or not.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2013 05:11 PM (BeSEI)

I don't think so. She doesn't need him. She's a rich socialite. There are multiple other pics of he and the woman together. Click the Perez link.

Posted by: BCochran1981 - Credible Hulk at August 31, 2013 05:13 PM (GEICT)

274 They try and bring the whole world crashing down to hide their mis-deeds. To make what is aberrant seem normal. So they celebrate and flaunt it.

http://youtu.be/p8-pP4VboBk

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 31, 2013 05:13 PM (zogjM)

275 The current leftist thinking on sexuality is that "gender" is just a social construct and inherently false and oppressive. Those who are "cis-gender" are oppressors. Those who are "trans-gender" because they are born that way - that this contradicts the "social construct" shtick is irrelevant because being contra-normative is seen as good.

As such, the differences between the biological sexes are just a matter of a few reproductive parts that have nothing to do with anything else. It is seen as the same difference as between races or short/tall people, &c.

They also believe 80% of people are fully bisexual. the 10% who are straight are oppressors and bigots for seeing any meaningful difference between the sexes. Similarly, the 10% who are gay are "born that way" and considered good because they are contra-normative.

Under the Left's extreme view of "equality," the only difference between an adult and a child is a physical one since the Left views all but the chosen elite as perpetual children.

It is all consistent with their internal logic.

This will not end well…

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 31, 2013 05:13 PM (Vk2pI)

276 "If you hate discussing in person, there's always writing a letter."

And the joy of an angry reply, or, better yet, returned unopened. For me, an old hurt is best handled by prayer.

Posted by: mrp at August 31, 2013 05:14 PM (HjPtV)

277 261 Zombie, that's really creepy! I have no idea who this Gayle person is but it confirms my longtime suspicion that all of the Ken Jennings 'tolerance in the form of teaching fisting technique' to teens is recruitment. Ick, ick, ick.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 31, 2013 05:07 PM (UsjVC)

Look up the wiki on this person. The first couple of paragraphs tell the story.

Predators need ki....never mind.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 31, 2013 05:15 PM (Tnlh/)

278 So now socialite lady can go to afternoon tea and ask her court if they saw her being demi-fisted on TV. Winning.

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 31, 2013 05:15 PM (ZshNr)

279 Believe it or not, I was on the original committee for the original Dragon con. I was the person in charge of picking and showing the films that were going to be shown. Kramer had one of the first meetings at Chunkie Cheese's. I shortly gave up the gig because I moved to Nashville. Should have known then...

Posted by: catman at August 31, 2013 05:15 PM (KFR3j)

280 But what would the murder rate be if murder were, insanely, not a crime? Think about it.

Would the murder rate double? Not even close. As a first approximation we'd guess it would increase by a whole order of magnitude -- ten times as many murders -- and that's probably lowballing it.

I disagree. Should, there would be a burst of mayhem of once the vendetta system takes hold, it will probably go back to near the current rate.

Posted by: toby928© at August 31, 2013 05:17 PM (QupBk)

281 230C'mon down to FLA like Ted Bundy did . We'll leave the light on for ya!

Posted by: Old Sparkey at August 31, 2013 05:17 PM (N3Al8)

282 "And that zombie, is why I have no tolerance for the LGBTQers who
insist that every gay behavior is a predestined genetic necessity. It's
not. They recruit. In schools, on teams, off the street. That's reality
and they know it."

Well, around here (my and zombie's common turf in San Francisco), aggressive recruitment of teens into homosexuality by older gays and lesbians is often excused on the grounds that those adults are just selflessly "helping" to strip away the artificial layers of heteronormativity which had been forced on the young innocents since birth without their consent.

So you see, it's the fault of plotting patriarchal straights that gay recruitment of teens happens. Has to happen. If the evil System weren't screwing up young kids by trying to rudely imprint them with heterosexual behaviors contrary to their natural homosexuality, then there wouldn't be any need for teens to be "assisted" by their elders in returning to their original gay _status quo ante_. Tear down the System and the practice will stop.

It's completely bughouse nuts, but that's what you will hear claimed.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 31, 2013 05:18 PM (gqT4g)

283 The Left declare that "heteronormative" and "cis-normative" values are false and oppressive, and that they are social constructs. From this they declare that pansexuality is normal, and refuse to consider that if sexuality is so fungable (as they claim with the "heteronormative" and "cis-normative" shtick), that perhaps it is heterosexuality and gender identity concomitant with one's biological sex is the default biological norm and that it is they who are pushing something false and oppressive?

Posted by: The Political Hat at August 31, 2013 05:18 PM (Vk2pI)

284 WTH? Did I even type in English?

Posted by: toby928© at August 31, 2013 05:18 PM (QupBk)

285 If murder weren't a crime, people would be a lot more polite and accommodating.

Posted by: Manifesto de Purp at August 31, 2013 05:19 PM (2BHYC)

286 Ten minutes until the big show.

Roll Tide, Roll!

Posted by: toby928© at August 31, 2013 05:20 PM (QupBk)

287 en minutes until the big show.

Roll Tide, Roll!

Posted by: toby928© at August 31, 2013 05:20 PM (QupBk)

That looks pretty Englishly to me.

Posted by: mrp at August 31, 2013 05:21 PM (HjPtV)

288 228
Rep. Mike Turner (R-OH), the chairman of the House Armed Services
Committee’s subcommittee on Tactical Air and Land forces, said on
Saturday that he will block any efforts by President Barack Obama to
procure funding to attack Syria until he reverses sequestration cuts to
the military.

Good! Now let's see you stick to it and stick to obama.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2013 04:54 PM (jE38p**************Turner and everybody else who ventures to restrict the action will be accused of "politicizing" the humanitarian effort to right the wrong of dead women and children. The MSM will then hold the show trials.

Posted by: gracepmc at August 31, 2013 05:21 PM (rznx3)

289 catman don't beat yourself up too bad. Back then with no other data, would be easy to think he actually liked Bloaty pizza... yyeeecchh!

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 31, 2013 05:22 PM (zogjM)

290 273 -

I'm not really sure what the job description of a "rich socialite" is, but I'm wondering if maybe you aren't confirming my suspicions.

Presuming rich socialites aren't rich due to their own hard work, and due diligence, is it just assumed that rich socialites are there so rich, famous celebrities have warm places into which to stick their... hands?

Says who?

I'm not exactly asking anyone to feel sorry for her, but if this is the life she's leading, are we so sure this is her choice, or was she groomed into it, much the same way high school softball players get groomed into theirs?

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2013 05:22 PM (BeSEI)

291 "The MSM will then hold the show trials."

Maybe, but I doubt it. Benghazi.

Posted by: mrp at August 31, 2013 05:23 PM (HjPtV)

292 It's completely bughouse nuts

They don't believe a word of it. That's just the external rationalization so they can keep a steady stream of succulent fresh meat in their supply pipeline.

Its "cult leader" behavior where all the fresh meat is reserved for the leadership positions. The rank and file members never get their own personal harems.

Posted by: Manifesto de Purp at August 31, 2013 05:24 PM (2BHYC)

293 283 The Left declare that "heteronormative" and "cis-normative" values are false and oppressive, and that they are social constructs. From this they declare that pansexuality is normal, and refuse to consider that if sexuality is so fungable (as they claim with the "heteronormative" and "cis-normative" shtick), that perhaps it is heterosexuality and gender identity concomitant with one's biological sex is the default biological norm and that it is they who are pushing something false and oppressive?
Posted by: The Political Hat at August 31, 2013 05:18 PM (Vk2pI)

Romans 1:21-27 has this in a nutshell.

Posted by: baldilocks at August 31, 2013 05:25 PM (Tnlh/)

294 Purp, the Jim Jones model?

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 31, 2013 05:27 PM (zogjM)

295 "Its "cult leader" behavior where all the fresh meat is reserved for the
leadership positions. The rank and file members never get their own
personal harems."

Yeah, David Koresh. And look what hetero-somewhat normative Bill Clinton and whatever Janet Reno was into did to him and the kids.

Posted by: mrp at August 31, 2013 05:27 PM (HjPtV)

296 My daughter has a male teacher. I told him on the first day, whispered it in his ear. If anyone assaults my daughter, I'll kill them and their whole FKN family, Lex Talionis.

He stared at me while I gave him a look that fell somewhere inbetween Psychopath and me. If he is a POS, he may choose another child. That's bad but it's not my child. Mine are my responsibility.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet Palin/Bolton 2016 at August 31, 2013 05:28 PM (XIxXP)

297 291
"The MSM will then hold the show trials."

Maybe, but I doubt it. Benghazi.

Posted by: mrp at August 31, 2013 05:23 PM (HjPtV)
*************Do you mean Benghazi would be a deterrent to the MSM not calling out anyone who opposes enforcement of some kind to Obama's redline?

Posted by: gracepmc at August 31, 2013 05:30 PM (rznx3)

298 Jones, Koresh, Manson, etc. The social dynamic inside the cult is always the same no matter what its external manifestations or goals are.

Posted by: Manifesto de Purp at August 31, 2013 05:30 PM (2BHYC)

299 "Purp, the Jim Jones model?"

Something that should never be forgotten, especially when some libtard sneers at your conservative beliefs as proof that you "drank the Kool-Aid", as they love to say, is this:

The Reverend Jim Jones and the People's Temple, and their hideous mass-murder-suicide spree to include the poisoned Kool-Aid, were from the very beginning an integral creation of the San Francisco progressive left.

Posted by: torquewrench at August 31, 2013 05:31 PM (gqT4g)

300
I'm not exactly asking anyone to feel sorry for her, but if this is the life she's leading, are we so sure this is her choice, or was she groomed into it, much the same way high school softball players get groomed into theirs?

A little of column A, a little of column B. She's probably spent most of her life with daddy getting her out of trouble, and his money let her hang out with all the coolest people. The problem is that alot of those celebrities are deviants and so she's faced with pressure to shut up and pretend nothing is wrong, or report misbehavior and face social ostracization.

Posted by: Colorado Alex at August 31, 2013 05:33 PM (k8u3n)

301 WaPo's only good for wrapping fish.

Posted by: Titanium at August 31, 2013 05:33 PM (zHWyo)

302 Flashback 2007: As Bush Admin Tries To Isolate Syria, Pelosi Meets With Assad, Undermining U.S. Position

“We were very pleased with the assurances we received from the president that he was ready to resume the peace process. He’s ready to engage in negotiations for peace with Israel,” Pelosi said.

Pelosi and accompanying members of Congress began their day by holding separate talks with Foreign Minister Walid al-Moallem and Vice President Farouk al-Sharaa and then met Assad, who hosted them for lunch after their talks.

Stupid scrunt

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2013 05:34 PM (jE38p)

303 I remember when the far right Jim Jones killed people and Harvey was murdered by a bigot

*sobs*

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at August 31, 2013 05:35 PM (Aif/5)

304 i have three brothers....they are all in law enforcement....they all told me the same thing when i started my family....be very careful who you entrust your children to....molesters are fucking everywhere.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 31, 2013 05:35 PM (8JJ6O)

305 The Reverend Jim Jones and the People's Temple, and their hideous mass-murder-suicide spree to include the poisoned Kool-Aid, were from the very beginning an integral creation of the San Francisco progressive left.

Posted by: torquewrench

/pedant
It was Flavor Aid , not Kool-Aid.
/pedant

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 31, 2013 05:35 PM (3CiXB)

306 molesters are fucking everywhere.....
Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 31, 2013 05:35 PM (8JJ6O)

I see what you did there, even if you don't

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2013 05:35 PM (jE38p)

307 Editorials like this one are done by "journalists" after the sale of a media outlet is announced, but before the sale is closed. They do it because they pretty much know that they are on their way out, and they write something like this so that they can say that they were fired for speaking their mind.

It's a cheap publicity stunt done more for them than their employer. Of course now that Bezos has signed the contract to buy, the Grahams don't give a shit what goes on at the Post.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper, aka MrCaniac at August 31, 2013 05:35 PM (BXLPR)

308
/pedant
It was Flavor Aid , not Kool-Aid.
/pedant
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 31, 2013 05:35 PM (3CiXB)

THANK YOU....IT'S A PET PEEVE OF MINE!!!! ((weftcutloop))

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 31, 2013 05:36 PM (8JJ6O)

309 VT goes 3 and out and Alabama returns the ensuing punt back for a TD.

Posted by: toby928© gets his drunk on at August 31, 2013 05:36 PM (QupBk)

310 I see what you did there, even if you don't
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2013 05:35 PM (jE38p)

lol, i didn't

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 31, 2013 05:36 PM (8JJ6O)

311 301
WaPo's only good for wrapping fish.

Posted by: Titanium at August 31, 2013 05:33 PM (zHWyo)
***********I think you can get fish at Amazon now wrapped in WAPO. Also they deliver in some areas. But not in Peruvia.

Posted by: gracepmc at August 31, 2013 05:36 PM (rznx3)

312 Ft. Hood Jihadist Nidal Hasan Arrives On Death Row…

They really should be taking away his wheelchair and throwing him into general population for some good old fashioned prison justice.

FORT HOOD, Texas (AP) — Fort Hood officials say the Army psychiatrist sentenced to death for the 2009 shooting rampage has arrived at the military prison at Fort Leavenworth in Kansas.

Officials released a statement Friday saying Maj. Nidal Hasan had arrived at the prison’s death row.

A military jury convicted Hasan last week of killing 13 people and wounding more than 30 at Fort Hood, a sprawling Army post in central Texas. The same jurors deliberated less than two hours on Wednesday before deciding Hasan should be put to death.

Hasan joins just five other inmates on the military’s death row.

Feel good story of the day

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2013 05:37 PM (jE38p)

313 231 It is a simple reality (with apologies to the moron lawyers) that one of the very first things that a law students learns is that for every argument there is a counter argument. It need not be logical, real, or even believable, it simply needs to be spoken. Among my lawyer friends, this quality often manifests itself. The simplest discussion (once the switch in their head flips) can devolve into lawyerly BS.

***

Lawyers have no trouble with the concept of an untrue fact.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 31, 2013 05:37 PM (VlXYw)

314 312 -

That one word keeps screwing up my sense of satisfaction.

Major

How much longer must that word be associated with this pig?

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2013 05:39 PM (BeSEI)

315 What just happened? I go water jet skiing for 30 minutes and obama wimps out. Jesus doesn't he know I lead the invasion of Cambodia?

Posted by: Horse Face Kerry at August 31, 2013 05:39 PM (jE38p)

316 No one died.

Posted by: Prez'nit McMissle at August 31, 2013 05:39 PM (Dwehj)

317
teachers coaches camp counselors babysitters

anywhere children gather, they are there

Posted by: thunderb at August 31, 2013 05:39 PM (zOTsN)

318 #297

Yep. A simple argument for Congress to make : "The last time the administration sent troops into a revolutionary state, Libya, it resulted in the death of the US ambassador, the destruction of the embassy, and the deaths of three US citizens. The Obama administration referred to the event as a criminal act and sent an FBI investigation team to examine the evidence. Why should we attack the Syrian government, which has not killed a single American, until the FBI has examined the alleged crime scene and then delivers its findings?"

Posted by: mrp at August 31, 2013 05:41 PM (HjPtV)

319 see some high school soccer kids haze raped freshman boys at camp.......

http://tinyurl.com/m22u6wa

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 31, 2013 05:42 PM (8JJ6O)

320 147 asks whether hippies are "Going the full Caligula". As it happens, today is Caligula's 2001st birthday.

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at August 31, 2013 05:42 PM (DOLwn)

321 BeamerBall!

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 31, 2013 05:42 PM (Q9qpj)

322 Mr Bezos,
Please kindly shut this excretion down.
Kind Regards,
A Human Being

Posted by: Maquis at August 31, 2013 05:42 PM (TKhAu)

323 be very weary of anyone who shows an over interest in your child....

Posted by: phoenixgirl @phxazgrl at August 31, 2013 05:43 PM (8JJ6O)

324 is idiot author a parent yet?

Posted by: thunderb at August 31, 2013 05:44 PM (zOTsN)

325
I just sent Amazon an e-mail telling them I'll never buy anything from them again.

Boycotting Amazon is how you poke WaPo in the eye.

Posted by: misanthrope at August 31, 2013 05:44 PM (YNWNJ)

326 Moar pop culture!

Posted by: Jeff B(ezos) at August 31, 2013 05:47 PM (Dwehj)

327 Lawyers have no trouble with the concept of an untrue fact.

This is one of the core design defects/features of an adversarial system. The system itself is not intended to actually unearth genuine objective truth.

Posted by: Manifesto de Purp at August 31, 2013 05:47 PM (2BHYC)

328 is idiot author a parent yet?

Idiot Author lives in DC, in a Dupont Circle studio with three cats and an occasional environmentalist.

See Idiot Author’s about page via link in nick, if you dare.

No word on whether the environmentalist has sex with the cats.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 31, 2013 05:49 PM (CeNUw)

329 On a Carolla podcast, Jim Norton talks in depth about his obsession with illicit sex. After listening to it, some questions come to mind.

If some formerly deviant act becomes permissible, does it lose its appeal? Or does an individual's ingrained perception of its past disapproval continue to luster?

Is there a plateau for him to find and avoid an unending search for ephemeral excitement in the exploration of taboos?

Posted by: adams porn reviews at August 31, 2013 05:50 PM (gQKHE)

330 catman, just found how much Kramer was making off Dragon*Con even though he was no longer in any capacity to exercise control. In 2011 he cleared $154,000 from doing nothing.

What happened was the five other founders sold all the assets of Dragon*Con to a new company. Split the proceeds and gave Kramer his portion of the buy-out.

Posted by: Chelsea Puma (+SmuD) at August 31, 2013 05:53 PM (zogjM)

331 The point is that there is a vast and extremely nuanced continuum of sexual interactions.....

This gem means we should take child rape on a case by case basis. If Catholic priests, fundamentalist preachers, Republican congressmen, or other opponents of abortion or same-sex marriage have sex with minors, it should be punished harshly. Exposing youngsters to that level of hypocrisy can be very damaging to a child's self esteem.

This is just the beginning folks. In time, the only crime will be stigmatizing sexual deviancy. And sooner than you think.

Posted by: Dr. Hackenbush at August 31, 2013 06:00 PM (ymovd)

332 318
#297
Yep. A simple argument for Congress to make : "The
last time the administration sent troops into a revolutionary state,
Libya, it resulted in the death of the US ambassador, the destruction of
the embassy, and the deaths of three US citizens. The Obama
administration referred to the event as a criminal act and sent an FBI
investigation team to examine the evidence. Why should we attack the
Syrian government, which has not killed a single American, until the FBI
has examined the alleged crime scene and then delivers its findings?"

Posted by: mrp at August 31, 2013 05:41 PM (HjPtV)
***********
Excellent. If some Congress critter makes it. Someone should, but I'm not holding my breath.

Posted by: gracepmc at August 31, 2013 06:01 PM (rznx3)

333 Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 31, 2013 05:37 PM (jE38p)

At least there is a smidgen of good news.

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 31, 2013 06:06 PM (XdnQT)

334 1. Can't let citizens exercise their Constitutional rights to keep and bear arms---for the chirren!

2. Can't forbid teachers to abuse their students sexually---for the chirren!

Good thing there is no "culture" left to take back!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 31, 2013 06:09 PM (XdnQT)

335 >>>>But the utter hysteria with which society responds to these situations...>>>>

It sucks, don't it? I spent twenty years trying to drown myself in booze and drugging myself to sleep every night, all while latching on to female versions of my rapist over and over and over, until I blew out my immune system from sheer rage and self-loathing. From the age of six until the age of forty-nine, there wasn't a single day in which I didn't think, "I know: Blow out my brains! That's the ticket!"

I'm just a silly ol' hysteric who needs to get over himself.

Oh, and go fuck yourself, Betsy. Walk in my shoes for twenty-four hours and then come back and tell me about hysteria. Experience the marvels of post-traumatic stress flashbacks, dissociation, and the knowledge that you will NEVER, EVER experience what most of the planet does, which is healthy physical love.

It's like the end of the movie The Rapture, in which Mimi Rogers recognizes that she'll stand outside the gates of heaven forever.

My "hysteria" is forever, Betsy. There's no cure. I'm ruined. So go to hell.

Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at August 31, 2013 06:16 PM (TJw7K)

336 335 - Behind progressives' claimed love and respect for people is a deep contempt and loathing. If you do not subscribe to Betsy's political beliefs she'll call you a hypocrite who only got what you wish on minorities and women. The horrendous cost of their policies is shrugged off with asinine aphorisms about omelets and eggs.

Or something equally stupid.

Hold on. The problem with choosing death is that it's irrevocable. Nobody can tell you what the purpose of your life is.

Posted by: Steve Skubinna at August 31, 2013 06:30 PM (pnUTv)

337 No one is ruined forever, Tacky. Anyone who stands outside the gates and asks to enter will NEVER be turned away. Matthew 7:6-8

You may be angry at him because you think that he let this happen to you. But he takes all the evil done to us and walks with us to transcend it, and to make you into the beautiful creation that you really are. Jeremiah 29:11

Praying for you.

Posted by: Arms Merchant at August 31, 2013 06:38 PM (+XVQe)

338 Yes, the Church stands against the Culture of Death, the Culture of the State. Bloom talked about the family as a point of resistance to the State, too. When a man acquires a family and property, he wants to keep it and protect it. He wants the State out of their lives, with just enough law to enable him to live his own life on his own terms. (Insert obligatory "this means woman too" reference.)

The other religions have already caved to PC. The church is on board with illegal immigration but is balking at the rest.

On Barky's Calendar: "Must Destroy Institutions"

Posted by: PJ at August 31, 2013 07:02 PM (ZWaLo)

339 This isn't even worth fisking, I don't know why you keep bothering to fisk an insanely risible post.

Hello people, wake up. This article is an example of what is called "link-trolling". Puffington Host, Salon and Slate, Buzzfeed etc. engage in it as a matter of course. Write an outrageous headline with an insane take on the subject du jour and outraged netizens will come in droves to be appalled and you'll be linked endlessly and with any luck your post will be a 2 day wonder with 300,000 hits. That's all that matters. However, eventually, like click-through ads, advertisers will realize eyeballs done' necessarily mean sales, and there is such a thing as a "cheap hit"- we used to design websites with hidden text of popular terms just to get hits, but they were empty hits, they didn't result in sales or even clicks on banners.

When advertisers begin to stop equating link-whoring traffic with how much they should pay to advertise on a site, it will end.

That, or when people get smart enough to see they're being trolled and stop clicking on idiot columns like this. But that may never happen.

Posted by: docweasel at August 31, 2013 07:52 PM (hlFA8)

340 58 you forgot (c) Sexual relations across a rank/power gradient between the President of the United States and an intern "What are you complaining about? It's just sex, you wingnut prudes!"

Posted by: Paul at August 31, 2013 08:47 PM (Vf6xf)

341 As a rather clever person once said (and got linked here, thank you very much, Gabriel Malor), "Nuance is the mantle intellectuals like to don when they espouse ideas that slap common sense in the face."

I think that applies here.

Posted by: itsonlywords at August 31, 2013 09:02 PM (hC07G)

342 Ace, you are a master. I am so glad I found your site.

Posted by: Miss Scarlett at August 31, 2013 09:57 PM (tWrwm)

343 This woman's rationalization of the rape and subsequent suicide of this young girl makes me ill ... and ashamed, as a woman, of this woman.

@Tacky - you are not ruined, and you are not alone. Your self___ was destroyed, by a horrible predator, when you were a little boy. You can still pick up the pieces. Take care of yourself.

Posted by: Jen at August 31, 2013 10:51 PM (d04sl)

344 @Tacky - Your self image was destroyed - is what I meant to say.

Posted by: Jen at August 31, 2013 10:52 PM (d04sl)

345 All my current friends are 14-year-old girls. We have pool parties and sometimes we massage each other.

I had a few minutes of uncontrolled laughter out of that portion of your diatribe. Good job, Ace.

Posted by: thCork at August 31, 2013 11:51 PM (I3ZHb)

346 171 I also wonder if this woman really remembers being 14.

Posted by: Texas

She's a leftist; she's always fourteen.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 31, 2013 04:30 PM Damn Straight Weft - Its like the become brain locked and can't stop thinking with their heart, and not their head.Kinda - sorta like a 14 yr old girl.

Posted by: Fox at September 01, 2013 01:34 AM (PwgpJ)

347
So... should we expect an impassionedplea from her about the terrible injustice being done to Jerry Sandusky, and the obviously horrible effects on his multiple little partners that prosecuting him entails?
Because, is there anything more beautiful and loving than a young boy taking one for.. er from the coach?
I certainly look forward to hearing more from her on this subject!

Posted by: The Weege at September 01, 2013 04:28 AM (h+bIb)

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