DNC Executive Director Taunts on Twitter: "It's Constitutional. Bitches."

Executive Director of the DNC Patrick Gaspard actually said that.

Screencap here, thanks to @slublog.

Another DNC tweet -- now deleted -- said "TAKE THAT MOTHER******S!"

That's on drudge. I don't know if the bowlderization was in the original, or who in the DNC wrote it.

Posted by: Ace at 11:29 AM

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1 Last.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at June 28, 2012 11:23 AM (CP+yl)

2 Damn.

Posted by: The Chicken at June 28, 2012 11:24 AM (Usk3+)

3 Repeal the Sixteenth Amendment, FOOLS.

Posted by: Gerry at June 28, 2012 11:24 AM (knMIa)

4 Honest to gawd--this is the headline at Yahoo-

Individual mandate survives a 6-4 vote with Roberts voting to keep it
The Ticket - 1 hr 26 mins ago
The result upended speculation after hostile-seeming oral arguments in March that the justices would overturn the law. More »Individual mandate survives a 6-4 vote with Roberts voting to keep it
Obama to speak on Supreme Court’s health care rulingObama rejected characterizing insurance mandate as a tax in …

*******

6+4=

There are TEN Supremes now?

Liberals have lost it.

http://news.yahoo.com/

catch it before they change it.

Posted by: tasker at June 28, 2012 11:25 AM (r2PLg)

5 I've got some socialist Euros around me telling me how this is not going to fail and everything is going to be great.

Anyone got a link that clearly explains what a clusterfuck this bill is and why is sucks?

Posted by: © Sponge at June 28, 2012 11:25 AM (UK9cE)

6 Whatever. Although we are not in official positions like these tweeters are I do believe our language would be similar if not worse. They have a right to gloat I guess.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 28, 2012 11:25 AM (jucos)

7 Good for them. I encourage them to continue.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at June 28, 2012 11:26 AM (JxMoP)

8 This ruling defies all logic. The law orders you to buy insurance. That is not a tax. The "punishment" for not buying it is really not a tax except by the biggest stretch of the liars imagination.

And don't count on Republicans repealing this with reconciliation.

The only available option now is an article V convention.

After that I will not say.

Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2012 11:26 AM (YdQQY)

9 Odds that Eric Holder gets his sphincter stomped until it looks like a mud hole?

100 to 1

Black idiots walk out proves what? That they're stupid AND ignorant?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at June 28, 2012 11:26 AM (CP+yl)

10 Good for them. They are happy that they won.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 28, 2012 11:26 AM (jucos)

11 Yep, socialism has "officially" arrived in the USA. And the socialists are celebrating. Congratulations to them, their children are fucked too.

They just don't realize it.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 28, 2012 11:27 AM (EtuU3)

12 We as a society deserve what we have allowed. Complete lack of decorum preceeding chaos.

Posted by: Scandia at June 28, 2012 11:27 AM (QWOh7)

13 RNC should tweet back- It's a tax bitch. Own it.

Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2012 11:27 AM (hdGdp)

14 I've never posted here. I just love to read Ace, and the occasional comment thread, but I just wanted to say that I have never donated to a political campaign of any kind in my life.

That wall has now been broken.

Posted by: David at June 28, 2012 11:27 AM (hG5pg)

15 Damnit--they just fixed it.

Posted by: tasker at June 28, 2012 11:27 AM (r2PLg)

16
HOw can the SC call it a tax when the Obama admin said that it wasn't a tax.

Fuck these double dealing douches. Fuck these rapacious public sector unions. Fuck those Dearborn MI muslim fucks, who will be given exemptions from Obama care. Fuck the low life bastards who don't work and live off the rest of us.

Posted by: Jack at June 28, 2012 11:27 AM (wUFaM)

17 Yes, these are the people I want to be in charge of our country forever.

I want to say something, but it will get Ace in a whole heap of trouble so I won't.

Posted by: EC at June 28, 2012 11:27 AM (GQ8sn)

18 I've got some socialist Euros around me telling me how this is not going to fail and everything is going to be great.

Anyone got a link that clearly explains what a clusterfuck this bill is and why is sucks?

Any site in the domain .eu?

Posted by: fluffy at June 28, 2012 11:28 AM (z9HTb)

19 John Thune is one of the idiots that thinks the healthcare bill was done with reconciliation.

Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2012 11:28 AM (YdQQY)

20 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at June 28, 2012 11:28 AM (Xb3hu)

21 13 RNC should tweet back- It's a tax bitch. Own it.
Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2012 11:27 AM (hdGdp

*****

Yep.

Posted by: tasker at June 28, 2012 11:28 AM (r2PLg)

22 Guy

The ones mouthing off will be fine. Their kids will get the same special care all Socialist Royalty get.

Posted by: Typo dynamofo at June 28, 2012 11:28 AM (FU9ql)

23 This just reminds me of the State of the Union scene in Idiocracy.

The Democrats are truly the party of ignorance and baser animal urges.

Posted by: El Kabong at June 28, 2012 11:29 AM (5pjC0)

24
And now.....The Gloatening.

Very well.
Let them gloat.
I hope they do their worst.....show us how it's done....bitches.

Posted by: wheatie at June 28, 2012 11:29 AM (0T8H7)

25
@8 After that I will not say.

Yeah, me neither.

Posted by: Jaws at June 28, 2012 11:29 AM (4I3Uo)

26 Rick James would slap this dude

Posted by: The Q at June 28, 2012 11:29 AM (B/yDO)

27 5I've got some socialist Euros around me telling me how this is not going to fail and everything is going to be great.<<<<Oh, no it won't. Trust me. I'm living with it.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 28, 2012 11:29 AM (oihrP)

28 >>>Whatever. Although we are not in official positions like these tweeters are I do believe our language would be similar if not worse. They have a right to gloat I guess.

when I'm at official events, or in a capacity where I am representing someone, I refrain from "bitches" and "motherfuckers," myself.

Posted by: ace at June 28, 2012 11:29 AM (aw5Tx)

29 Roberts says "It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices."

It's called a republic. We have a constitution because certain political choices,
even if supported by 100% of the nation, are not allowed. I hate that "if you don't like it, vote them out" argument. If that
were true, then we would have a pure democracy with no need for a
constitution. Under that view, if we vote in a theocracy, that's ok because it was democratic.

Posted by: LIGuy at June 28, 2012 11:29 AM (+usC4)

30 That wall has now been broken.

Welcome to the party, Pal.

Posted by: fluffy McClane at June 28, 2012 11:29 AM (z9HTb)

31
Anyone got a link that clearly explains what a clusterfuck this bill is and why is sucks?

You expect me to read the bill!?

Posted by: John Conyers at June 28, 2012 11:29 AM (cUmUy)

32 What about the "inadequate insurance mandate", you know for the folks who don't have the "Cadillac plans" like the public sector has, complements of TAX PAYERS? Will citizens be fined by Big Bro for not having "Cadillac Plans" while still having to pay for the Cadillac plans for public servants?

Posted by: Deli LLama at June 28, 2012 11:29 AM (uv9eO)

33 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at June 28, 2012 11:28 AM (Xb3hu)

Not so much lately steevy.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger and all that at June 28, 2012 11:29 AM (CP+yl)

34 A lot of lawmakers tweeted some pretty interesting stuff. Wish I knew how to catch those tweets. Make great campaign commercials for their republican counterparts.

Posted by: starry at June 28, 2012 11:29 AM (oZfic)

35 John Thune is one of the idiots

You could have stopped right there.

Posted by: Oldsailors Poet, Team Dagny at June 28, 2012 11:29 AM (9TTOe)

36 I'm waiting for Plan C, which is when all heck breaks loose. I'm better armed and trained than my neighbors, I'll set up a dictatorship, rule Burtlandia from my front porch.

Mandate? The mandate is, all your wimmins are mine now.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2012 11:29 AM (TOk1P)

37 >>>John Thune is one of the idiots that thinks the healthcare bill was done with reconciliation.

it was.

Posted by: ace at June 28, 2012 11:29 AM (aw5Tx)

38 Money bomb every republican with a chance to take down a dem! Take the senate!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 28, 2012 11:30 AM (piMMO)

39 I saw it.By the way,I never let anyone see me get upset over a loss.I only gloat with friends but am conciliatory around the other side.Never let them see you sweat.Smile,show them you are confident of victory in the long run.

Posted by: steevy at June 28, 2012 11:30 AM (Xb3hu)

40 Look at that smug face of Roberts on Drudge ... what a pussy.

Posted by: SoCalMe at June 28, 2012 11:30 AM (s72/N)

41 Forsaken once again! Just when I was feeling a little optimistic about things finally turning around. How can anyone think this is the right decision. It's a tax? WTH

Posted by: Brian at June 28, 2012 11:30 AM (wTSvK)

42 Yep, socialism has "officially" arrived in the USA.

Socialism arrive in the USA in the 30s and was expanded in the 60s.

This is another step in nationalizing the medical industry. It is another huge step towards communism.

Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2012 11:30 AM (YdQQY)

43 Nearly 70% of us think it's unconstitutional and/or want it gone. That's what Americans are to the Democrats. I love it when they're honest. This is what they think. We're their bitches and they, our occasionally benevolent pimps. **** them.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 28, 2012 11:30 AM (+4Ho1)

44 This spiking of the football by the Dems is making me tear up.

Posted by: John Boehner at June 28, 2012 11:30 AM (cUmUy)

45 At some point in the near future, we will have a choice. Comply with this new tax or face the consequences. Are you (am I) willing to not have insurance and not pay the "tax" and suffer the consequences? Is mass rebellion something happens now?

And most of us on here don't have a choice to make because we have insurance through our employers. So, do we just go along?

Posted by: The Hammer at June 28, 2012 11:31 AM (4kwMn)

46 I would've used the words 'lollygaggers' and 'strumpets'...also, I would've worn a monocle and a handlebar mustache.

Posted by: El Kabong at June 28, 2012 11:31 AM (5pjC0)

47 I've decided to give up my silly hobby of caring about liberty. I'm switching to alcoholism. Seriously. 9:30 am and the beer tastes pretty good.

Posted by: irright at June 28, 2012 11:31 AM (RzLbD)

48 Every normal man must be tempted at times...

Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 28, 2012 11:31 AM (+4Ho1)

49
Don’t call it a mandate — it’s a tax – Lyle Denniston

The court overturned Commerce and Necessary Constitutional arguments. The man is a fool. The face of the Democratic party

Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at June 28, 2012 11:31 AM (136wp)

50 I firmly believe that our nation is great and that we have survived many terrible things and we will make it through this.

Posted by: Ruby at June 28, 2012 11:31 AM (QAUe4)

51 6 Whatever. Although we are not in official positions like these tweeters are I do believe our language would be similar if not worse. They have a right to gloat I guess.
-------------------------------------

You are missing the point.

Boehner: "No spiking the football! ". You better not celebrate a positive ruling!!!

Our side not only fails to realize we are at war, they don't have the F*CKING STONES to fight if they did realize it.

Posted by: Win Some, Lose Some! But Mainly Lose. at June 28, 2012 11:31 AM (uXvLX)

52 I would encourage the DNC and dems to continue with this sort of rhetoric.

Posted by: willy at June 28, 2012 11:32 AM (kUCQ4)

53 Greetings, fellow slaves.

Posted by: toby928© Person of Pudge at June 28, 2012 11:32 AM (QupBk)

54
"Take that motherfuckers" is the perfect thing to say if you are a corrupt democrat.
Take that, rubes. TAX HIKE!

Posted by: Fresh at June 28, 2012 11:32 AM (O7ksG)

55 Every normal man must be tempted at times...

To spit upon his hands,

Posted by: EC at June 28, 2012 11:32 AM (GQ8sn)

56 I don't know Mr. Typo, many of Stalin's buddies got shall we say "purged".

Which in the end really is the crux of this situation, disparate treatment, no equality under the law. Sad.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 28, 2012 11:32 AM (EtuU3)

57 Look at that smug face of Roberts on Drudge ... what a pussy.

Posted by: SoCalMe at June 28, 2012 11:30 AM (s72/N)

That's exactly what my husband called him this morning.

Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2012 11:32 AM (X6akg)

58 Another thing,make them OWN this huge tax increase,that they swore wasn't a tax increase.

Posted by: steevy at June 28, 2012 11:32 AM (Xb3hu)

59 37 >>>John Thune is one of the idiots that thinks the healthcare bill was done with reconciliation.

it was.

***********

And now it can be undone with Reconciliation.

Posted by: tasker at June 28, 2012 11:32 AM (r2PLg)

60 Good read on the ruling at Volokh Conspiracy. Gives you a little hope that killing the Medicare mandate will mean serious problems for the government later. Read it.

http://tinyurl.com/dcpge

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at June 28, 2012 11:32 AM (vSiVD)

61 The Ann Coulter link in the sidebar is bad.

Posted by: Gerry at June 28, 2012 11:32 AM (knMIa)

62 I'm missing the Rapture here. The SC is referring to states, not
individuals. Seems it's up to each state now and the fed gov't can't
force any state to go along.

P.S. Isn't this Romney's ideology as well?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 28, 2012 11:32 AM (sSrfb)

63 ohn Thune is one of the idiots that thinks the healthcare bill was done with reconciliation.

it was.

Posted by: ace at June 28, 2012 11:29 AM (aw5Tx)

No it wasn't. The actual bill was passed while they still had 60 votes in the Senate on Christmas eve. The "fix" which supposedly eliminated financing abortions (for the so-called blue dogs) and giving the unions a break on the taxes on Cadillac plans was done with reconciliation.

Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2012 11:32 AM (YdQQY)

64 With no planning at all by me, The Battle Hymn Of The Republic just came up on my iPod.

Yeah.

Posted by: tsj017 at June 28, 2012 11:32 AM (4YUWF)

65 If we get the Senate.

Posted by: tasker at June 28, 2012 11:33 AM (r2PLg)

66 We need to get on message.

the ACA individual mandate was NOT upheld! It waqs struck down and redefined as a TAX INCREASE.

The SCOTUS just affirmed that Obama and the Damnocrats LIED to us over and over, and violated process in passing this.

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at June 28, 2012 11:33 AM (9VSWS)

67 Every normal man must be tempted at times...
Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 28, 2012 11:31 AM (+4Ho1)
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WORD!

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 28, 2012 11:33 AM (jucos)

68 Here's a link to the pdf: http://tinyurl.com/7bxnmq5

One of the bloggers on the SCOTUS live blog is apparently writing something now.

They put in a brief on behalf of the AARP, so they must be thrilled.

Posted by: starry at June 28, 2012 11:34 AM (oZfic)

69 Actually, the Cadillac plans that existed are going away because this bill taxes them.

I know because we had one. It was the way that my wife's non-profit made up for not paying private sector wages. Now that it is gone we are paying double or more for the same care.

Posted by: Typo dynamofo at June 28, 2012 11:34 AM (FU9ql)

70 awfully proud of their tax right now aren't they.

Posted by: california red at June 28, 2012 11:34 AM (xC7pk)

71 Don't Call it a Mandate!

Posted by: LL Cool J at June 28, 2012 11:34 AM (cUmUy)

72 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at June 28, 2012 11:34 AM (nUH8H)

73 @4 The "writers" are ignorant--products of our wonderful public education system.

As Steyn said, if we want to keep the Republic, we need to take back the institutions--academia, Hollywood, the Fourth Estate, and the Permanent Bureaucracy.

Posted by: Hank Johnson at June 28, 2012 11:34 AM (+XVQe)

74 The New Civility is sooo 2011.

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at June 28, 2012 11:34 AM (+ciOu)

75 69 Actually, the Cadillac plans that existed are going away because this bill taxes them.
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Yep.

Posted by: Y-not at June 28, 2012 11:34 AM (5H6zj)

76 new post up at my place. If the Federal Government wishes to impose tyranny, it's up to the States to protect us.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) Channeling Breitbart at June 28, 2012 11:34 AM (nUH8H)

77 Arggh, off, Sock!

Posted by: Arms Merchant at June 28, 2012 11:34 AM (+XVQe)

78 This ruling is The One's greatest accomplishment.
They have won.

ObamaCare might still be overturned.
This ruling is forever.
From here on, the government can do anything and call it a tax.
This is the Roe vs Wade of our generation and Roe Vs Wade was nothing compared to what just happened today.

I know that this sounds despondent but the fact is that Left just won a victory more important than ObamaCare and is no way to reverse it.

And one of the justices that we were counting on just joined the other side.

Posted by: RayJ at June 28, 2012 11:34 AM (pI/IV)

79 Anna Wilde Matthews at the Wall Street Journal writes, “After months of uncertainty as the federal health-care overhaul faced legal challenges, the industry—which at $2.7 trillion represents 17.9% of the nation's gross domestic product—has a clearer picture of what's in store.”

Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at June 28, 2012 11:35 AM (136wp)

80 The Dims are always so classy.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 28, 2012 11:35 AM (1Jaio)

81 from Ann Althouse, this is from Sept 2009:

STEPHANOPOULOS: t's still a tax increase.

OBAMA: No. That's not true, George. The — for us to say that you've
got to take a responsibility to get health insurance is absolutely not a
tax increase. What it's saying is, is that we're not going to have
other people carrying your burdens for you anymore than the fact that
right now everybody in America, just about, has to get auto insurance. Nobody considers that a tax increase. People say to themselves, that is a fair way to make sure that if you hit my car, that I'm not covering all the costs.

Posted by: mallfly at June 28, 2012 11:35 AM (bJm7W)

82 Remind me again how this bill lowers the cost of healthcare...

Posted by: LIGuy at June 28, 2012 11:35 AM (+usC4)

83 We need to get on message.

the ACA individual mandate was NOT upheld! It waqs struck down and redefined as a TAX INCREASE.

The SCOTUS just affirmed that Obama and the Damnocrats LIED to us over and over, and violated process in passing this.

********

Yep--we have to emphasize how they did this by hook and by crook.

Party line vote.

No debate.

Snuck through by Reconciliation to avoid debate .

Posted by: tasker at June 28, 2012 11:35 AM (r2PLg)

84 John Thune is one of the idiots that thinks the healthcare bill was done with reconciliation.

it was.

From the WIKI fwiw:

PPACA passed the Senate on December 24, 2009, by a vote of 60–39 with all Democrats and two Independents voting for, and all but one Republican voting against.[10] It passed the House of Representatives on March 21, 2010, by a vote of 219–212, with 34 Democrats and all 178 Republicans voting against the bill.[11]

the roll call: http://is.gd/IZOvN1

Posted by: toby928© Person of Pudge at June 28, 2012 11:35 AM (QupBk)

85
I saw it.By the way,I never let anyone see me get upset over a loss.I
only gloat with friends but am conciliatory around the other side.Never
let them see you sweat.Smile,show them you are confident of victory in
the long run.

Yar.

Posted by: fluffy at June 28, 2012 11:35 AM (z9HTb)

86 Overtaxation has begun

"Houston's Strip Clubs Hit by New 'Pole Tax'" in the WSJ today

Posted by: The Q at June 28, 2012 11:35 AM (B/yDO)

87 So it's a tax. I don't think the dems care. They have an enslaved 40% of the populations support baked into their cake.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 28, 2012 11:35 AM (jucos)

88 Romney to speak at 11:45....

Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2012 11:36 AM (X6akg)

89 There is only me now.

Posted by: SMOD the Merciful at June 28, 2012 11:36 AM (KM2HD)

90 I got an idea. The abortion tax. On abortion doctors. Dig it?

Posted by: DanInMN at June 28, 2012 11:36 AM (HQzCT)

91 I have to admit, I don't have a problem with the Left taking a victory lap since I was going to do it.

I will also freely admit that I never ever once considered that the mandate would be upheld as a tax.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 28, 2012 11:36 AM (VtjlW)

92
the industry—which at $2.7 trillion represents 17.9% of the nation's gross domestic product—has a clearer picture of what's in store.”

Youz a gonna get raped.

Posted by: Rape Kitty at June 28, 2012 11:36 AM (cUmUy)

93 Ed Henry tweets:

even more from CJustice Roberts: "It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.”

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 28, 2012 11:37 AM (piMMO)

94 Going to a Pat McCrory rally tonight. Will be interesting to get the feel of the troops.

It won't be good, though Pat will win the governorship in NC.

Posted by: Billy Bob, Pseudo Intellectual at June 28, 2012 11:37 AM (vSiVD)

95 A Pole Tax is racist, er, uh , nationalist!

Posted by: Gerry at June 28, 2012 11:37 AM (knMIa)

96 21 13 RNC should tweet back- It's a tax bitch. Own it.
Posted by: polynikes at June 28, 2012 11:27 AM (hdGdp

*****

Yep.

Heh, democrats don't pay their taxes anyway.

Posted by: izoneguy at June 28, 2012 11:37 AM (hbRed)

97 89 There is only me now.
Posted by: SMOD the Merciful at June 28, 2012 11:36 AM (KM2HD)

Hey, hit LA, there's a hot Levitating Mass waiting for ya!

Posted by: The Huggable Robot Devil at June 28, 2012 11:37 AM (136wp)

98 Our government can force us to buy anything it wishes. Americans are subjects. No, slaves.

Fuck this.

Posted by: Cicero at June 28, 2012 11:37 AM (5tiWJ)

99

What about....the Waivers.
Was the subject of all those Waivers to ObamaCare even brought up?

How can that possibly be constitutional? ....To grant waivers to a chosen few?

Posted by: wheatie at June 28, 2012 11:37 AM (0T8H7)

100 The SCOTUS just affirmed that Obama and the Damnocrats LIED to us over and over, and violated process in passing this.
****

This

Posted by: willy at June 28, 2012 11:37 AM (kUCQ4)

101 Shit's FUCKED UP!

Posted by: Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho at June 28, 2012 11:37 AM (bwV72)

102 78 The government could already do just about everything and call it a tax.They don't likje to call things taxes though.

Posted by: steevy at June 28, 2012 11:37 AM (Xb3hu)

103 Our side not only fails to realize we are at war

Oh, for pete's sake. Of course they know they're in a fight. What YOU fail to recognize is that you don't win a war by doing what makes you feel good, you win it by being smart. Obnoxiousness in victory is an own goal. It costs you support you will need. Boehner was right. His manhood doesn't enter into it.

Posted by: pep at June 28, 2012 11:37 AM (YXmuI)

104 Gaspard formerly of the SEIU hates us. He now runs the DNC. A political war will rain down on the Dems now thanks to the likes of him. 2010 was just a warmup.

Posted by: PJ at June 28, 2012 11:37 AM (DQHjw)

105 >>>Remind me again how this bill lowers the cost of healthcare...

Through rationing. Sarah Palin's "Death Panels".

Posted by: Typo dynamofo at June 28, 2012 11:37 AM (FU9ql)

106 I seem to recall people on here being concerned about Roberts and I thought to myself "not Roberts, Roberts was a bush appointee" but yet I still felt in my bones it wasn't going to go the way many expected. And when Ruthie was talking, when she'd never talked before, makes you know something wasn't right.

Posted by: starry at June 28, 2012 11:37 AM (oZfic)

107 Roberts says "It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices."

Ok, what is your job? (refrained from calling him a Dickhead just now).

Posted by: dogfish at June 28, 2012 11:38 AM (N2yhW)

108 Hold on to this.

In November, re-tweet "One Term, Bitches" en masse.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at June 28, 2012 11:38 AM (mg08E)

109 Serious question: has there ever been any more mangled, incomprehesible bill in both content and process ever passed?

Posted by: LIGuy at June 28, 2012 11:38 AM (+usC4)

110 Like I've been saying for the past two weeks, 5-4 SC decisions are what make American democracy great!

Posted by: chrissie matthews at June 28, 2012 11:38 AM (nrW1y)

111 I have to admit, I don't have a problem with the Left taking a victory lap since I was going to do it.

*****

But these are officials and leaders of the official organization doing it. Boehner had the class to advice otherwise.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 28, 2012 11:38 AM (piMMO)

112 Remind me again how this bill lowers the cost of healthcare...
Posted by: LIGuy at June 28, 2012 11:35 AM (+usC4)That depends...are you white and rich? If you are, well, it doesn't.

Posted by: Barakhenaten I at June 28, 2012 11:38 AM (cUmUy)

113
Say,
If a young hipster's parent don't/can't put them on their policy, because they are paying the "tax", how are these OWS types going to pay their "tax"?

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at June 28, 2012 11:38 AM (9VSWS)

114
Is John Roberts fuckin brain damaged?

Did he get his law degree at clown school?

Posted by: soothsayer at June 28, 2012 11:38 AM (x8us2)

115 advise

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 28, 2012 11:38 AM (piMMO)

116 I don't want to be a downer or a broken record, and I don't want sound
too pessimistic because at the end of the day I'm happy and optimistic,
but that's mostly because I'm prepared materially and psychologically...

However, we have bigger problems near on the horizon. The math hasn't
change. We are heading for a financial disaster never before seen in a
modern country and economy of this size and it is likely to occur before
this awful act even gets ramped up.

And I'm not sure there's anything we can do to prevent it at this point.
I'm not even sure what my message is besides advising everyone to get
prepared. I guess what I'm saying is that from my perspective, the
perspective of DOOM, this is just a pothole on the road to, eh, change,
so to speak.

Posted by: runninrebel at June 28, 2012 11:39 AM (N/1Dm)

117 GOP-led Congress, 2013:

"Everyone who does not purchase a gun is hereby taxed"

Posted by: The Q at June 28, 2012 11:39 AM (B/yDO)

118 I will also freely admit that I never ever once considered that the mandate would be upheld as a tax.

How could you not realize that the Obama Health Care Tax is a tax?

Posted by: fluffy at June 28, 2012 11:39 AM (z9HTb)

119 fuckity, fuck, fuck fuck

Posted by: phoenixgirl, team dagny at June 28, 2012 11:40 AM (Ho2rs)

120 How can the SC call it a tax when the Obama admin said that it wasn't a tax.
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Because Barry doesn't know what the hell he's talking about?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at June 28, 2012 11:40 AM (SO2Q8)

121
Chief Justice: The Backstabbening

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 28, 2012 11:40 AM (oihrP)

122 GOP Squishes and Mitten's turn on a dime...in 5..4..3..2..

Posted by: Paladin at June 28, 2012 11:40 AM (YNPwP)

123 "Take that Mother**ckers." a summary of the left's view of government.

Posted by: Adc at June 28, 2012 11:40 AM (JJJ5P)

124 Justice Roberts
PG 6:
It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.

Or: elections have consequences...bitches.

Posted by: sTevo at June 28, 2012 11:40 AM (rV+9g)

125 toby, vic:

It was passed out of the senate in an incomplete form. Then Scott Brown won the seat in Massachusetts.

Then the house passed a DIFFERENT bill. It had to be different, as the Senate's bill was unworkable.

Reconciliation was then used in the senate to pass the House's version of the bill.

Posted by: ace at June 28, 2012 11:41 AM (aw5Tx)

126 62
I'm missing the Rapture here. The SC is referring to states, not

individuals. Seems it's up to each state now and the fed gov't can't

force any state to go along.

Not sure what you're getting at. Could you explain?

Posted by: joncelli, not bothering to read the comments at June 28, 2012 11:41 AM (RD7QR)

127 Pointing out that I just tried to donate to Romney and his website has basically crashed. I suspect this is going to be an epic fundraising day.

Posted by: Jaydee77 at June 28, 2012 11:41 AM (5YMB7)

128 I think I agree with Roberts.

The SCOTUS interprets the Constitution. They struck down the application to the Commerce Clause. Americans elected the folks who did this/allowed this to be done.

It starts there.

We have been too apathetic for far too long.

This should never have made it to the SCOTUS.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 28, 2012 11:41 AM (piMMO)

129 The Offspring's take on this... http://tinyurl.com/ycch7h4

Posted by: dogfish at June 28, 2012 11:41 AM (N2yhW)

130 You don't have to go without insurance to refuse compliance, just fail to report to the Feds where you get your insurance from. Remain anonymous in your healthcare decisions.

Posted by: Serious Cat at June 28, 2012 11:41 AM (zrpqj)

131 Remember, this is a tax on poor people. Not a tax on rich people. Racists.

Posted by: Jean at June 28, 2012 11:41 AM (WkuV6)

132 @117

Seriously, the more I think about it, the more I think this ruling "proves too much." There's basically no limit on taxing based on "behavioral triggers."

So, what's to stop a Republican congress from taxing abortion doctors $10000 per procedure? Nothing in this ruling would. It wouldn't make abortion illegal under Roe v. Wade, it would just be a tax, right Justice Roberts?

Posted by: DanInMN at June 28, 2012 11:42 AM (HQzCT)

133 I have to say,I did expect this ruling to go our way and I WAS concerned it would actually hurt us by improving the economy.Take that FWIW.

Posted by: steevy at June 28, 2012 11:42 AM (Xb3hu)

134 This Nation can no longer assemble a Congress that can reverse 100 years of creeping Socialism.

Our metal is too fatigued.

It will break.

Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 11:42 AM (ejmiE)

135 Posted by: runninrebel

The 16,000,000,000,000 dollar elephant in the room

Posted by: The Debt at June 28, 2012 11:42 AM (+usC4)

136 Uh, about that headline - you realize what RT is, right?

Posted by: Gerry at June 28, 2012 11:42 AM (knMIa)

137 For those of you wondering what happens due to getting insurance thru your work, the answer is it will eventually be dropped and you will buy on your own. Companies that provide it to employees will perish with that disadvantage. This, of course, was the plan.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 28, 2012 11:42 AM (EtuU3)

138 129

I'm just a sucker with no self-esteem.

Posted by: constitutional conservatives at June 28, 2012 11:42 AM (B/yDO)

139 Michelle Bachman said the Supreme Court re wrote the law....

Posted by: starry at June 28, 2012 11:43 AM (oZfic)

140 You don't have to go without insurance to refuse compliance, just fail to report to the Feds where you get your insurance from. Remain anonymous in your healthcare decisions.
Posted by: Serious Cat at June 28, 2012 11:41 AM (zrpqj)

In MA you must report your insurance on your tax form.

Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 11:43 AM (ejmiE)

141 The Man Who Assraped Liberty.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 28, 2012 11:43 AM (oihrP)

142 You lose, shitbag.

Posted by: lol at June 28, 2012 11:43 AM (P5aEc)

143 RE: 128 I was feeling somewhat similar even though the argument that it is a tax is utterly absurd. Winning through the court is the left's way to legislate, not conservatives.

thus: "It's constitutional, bitches"...

Posted by: Adc at June 28, 2012 11:43 AM (JJJ5P)

144 When are they going to nail Holder

Posted by: Jean at June 28, 2012 11:43 AM (WkuV6)

145
From Dog-catcher to Dog-eater, if its name ends in (D) vote it out.

Posted by: Shel at June 28, 2012 11:44 AM (54BjZ)

146 I see the DNC is staying as classy as JEF.

Posted by: Infidel at June 28, 2012 11:44 AM (O/fK8)

147 We're shocked to learn they hate us? Lol.

Posted by: EeyoreRadish at June 28, 2012 11:44 AM (/kI1Q)

148 The decision is the very best insanity that only lawyers could conceive of.

Part one affirms Congress' choice not to call it a tax.

Part three says that because it can't be possible under the Commerce Clause and that "It is therefore necessary to turn to the Government’s alternative argument: that the mandate may be upheld as within Congress’s power to “lay and collect Taxes.” "

Because ! "Because “every reasonable construction must be resorted to, in order to save a statute from unconstitutionality,”

!!!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 28, 2012 11:44 AM (famk3)

149 The SCOTUS interprets the Constitution. They struck down the application
to the Commerce Clause. Americans elected the folks who did
this/allowed this to be done.

That is the nub. The Commerce Clause needs to be completely amended so that such a ridiculous interpretation can never again even be suggested. That still leaves the problem of this authorization to do anything by way of calling it a tax. I'm not sure how we solve that problem.

Posted by: pep at June 28, 2012 11:44 AM (YXmuI)

150 Here's a strange thought.

This is such a big victory for the Left, it doesn't even matter to them if Obama loses in November.

This ruling is Indelible and this law is here to stay until the end. The Left won big today.

Posted by: soothsayer at June 28, 2012 11:44 AM (uff2W)

151 "It's Constitutional. Bitches."

My that was a very bipartisan comment wasn't it.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 28, 2012 11:44 AM (tf9Ne)

152 We need to raise the minimum wage to say$35.00 and just tax the working citizens to fund it. That's constitutional now/

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at June 28, 2012 11:45 AM (mFxQX)

153 8
The only available option now is an article V convention.

After that I will not say.

Yup.

Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2012 11:45 AM (zoehZ)

154 I just replied to his tweet asking if by "bitches" did he mean "voters"?

Posted by: AndrewsDad at June 28, 2012 11:45 AM (C2//T)

155 You think Nany Pelosi orgasmed when she heard the decision?
(Okay,that was just mean and I denounce myself)

Posted by: steevy at June 28, 2012 11:45 AM (Xb3hu)

156 Question for all the Mittbots hoping to raise money from this decision: Will Mitt refuse to enforce the mandate, like Obama refuses to enforce immigration law?

I didn't think so.

Posted by: schizoid at June 28, 2012 11:45 AM (RAWKi)

157 144
When are they going to nail Holder

Posted by: Jean at June 28, 2012 11:43 AM (WkuV6)
I don't think they are. They won this decision and they will feel confident that their constituents will understand their no vote. It's smart to get them on record.

Posted by: starry at June 28, 2012 11:46 AM (oZfic)

158 Obama's two greatest accomplishments:

1. killing bin Laden with a spork.

2. the largest fucking tax increase the world has ever seen.

Posted by: Fritz at June 28, 2012 11:46 AM (/ZZCn)

159 Reconciliation was then used in the senate to pass the House's version of the bill.

Posted by: ace at June 28, 2012 11:41 AM (aw5Tx)
Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010 passed after the actual Obamscam was passed. Its intent was to fix problems with the act that was already passed
It did the followingIncreasing the tax credits to buy insurance

Eliminates several of the special deals given to senators, such as Ben Nelson's "Cornhusker Kickback"

Lowers the penalty for not buying insurance from $750 to $695

Closes the Medicare Part D "donut hole" by 2020 and gives seniors a rebate of $250.

Delays the implementation on taxing "Cadillac health-care plans" until 2018 (more union payoff)

Requires doctors who treat Medicare patients be reimbursed at the full rate

Sets up a medicare tax on the unearned incomes of families that earn more than $250,000 annually.

Offer more generous subsidies to lower income groups. Households below 150% of the federal poverty level would pay 2% to 4% of their income on premiums. Health plans would cover 94% of the cost of benefits.[18] Households with incomes from 150% to 400% of the federal poverty level ($88,200 for a family of four) would pay on a sliding scale from 4% to 9.8% of their income on premiums, rest will be covered by government advanceable, refundable tax credit. Health plans would cover 70% of the cost of the benefits.[18][19]

In 2014, if a company with more than 50 workers does not offer coverage, they will be obligated to pay $2,000 for each full time worker in the company, exempting the money due for the first 30 employees. For example, an employer with 53 workers will pay the penalty for 23 workers, or $46,000.[18]

Would increase Medicaid payment rates to primary care doctors to match Medicare payment rates, which are higher, in 2013 and 2014.[18]

The federal government would pay all of the costs of expanding Medicaid under the reform until 2016, 95% in 2017, 94% in 2018, 93% in 2019, and 90% thereafter. Some states that already insure childless adults under Medicaid would receive more federal money for covering that group through 2018.

The Medicare patients will receive 50% discount on brand-name drugs would begin in 2011. By 2020, the government would pay to provide up to 75% discount on brand-name and generic drugs, eventually closing the coverage gap.[18]

Would extend the ban on lifetime limits and rescission of coverage to all existing health plans within six months after signing into Law.[

Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2012 11:46 AM (YdQQY)

160 Bob Beckle is going to be insufferable on The Five tonight.

Posted by: Serious Cat at June 28, 2012 11:46 AM (zrpqj)

161 >>"Take that Mother**ckers." a summary of the left's view of government.

We are their livestock, to be used as they see fit.

Posted by: EeyoreRadish at June 28, 2012 11:46 AM (/kI1Q)

162
Posted by: Gerry at June 28, 2012 11:42 AM (knMIa)

the dude who thinks 10 year old memes are new doesn't get twitter, never thought of that

Posted by: The Dude at June 28, 2012 11:46 AM (tw6Ar)

163 How about 50 million Americans go on strike?

That would get the Fed's attention.

Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 11:46 AM (ejmiE)

164 Call your Senator and Congressman asking how much the IRS is going to tax you now that your employer is dropping your insurance.

Posted by: AndrewsDad at June 28, 2012 11:46 AM (C2//T)

165 ---137---
Thats of course correct. The issue though is that you would then lose the tax shielding aspect of getting it through your employer. An oversight I can only imagine was on purpose.

Posted by: Jaydee77 at June 28, 2012 11:47 AM (5YMB7)

166 It's a dessert topping AND a floor wax!

Posted by: the Butcher at June 28, 2012 11:47 AM (8g9qq)

167 >>For example, an employer with 53 workers will pay the penalty for 23 workers, or $46,000

Or, about what they would pay to ensure just two workers with spouses and children (aged 26 or younger).

Posted by: EeyoreRadish at June 28, 2012 11:47 AM (/kI1Q)

168 Even commies from FireDogLake understand this law better than Roberts:

"Wow. So, instead of raising a tax and letting the Government manage
the tax revenue, OBama instead “raised a tax” and will allow PRIVATE
FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS to manage the tax revenue.

"Welcome to Fascism. The outsourcing of Federal Taxation to Private
Industry is the biggest step backward this nation has taken in over a
hundred years. Teddy Roosevelt would be twisting in his grave about
now."

Posted by: The Q at June 28, 2012 11:47 AM (B/yDO)

169 For those of you wondering what happens due to getting insurance thru
your work, the answer is it will eventually be dropped and you will buy
on your own. Companies that provide it to employees will perish with
that disadvantage. This, of course, was the plan.

*****

My self-insured employer started finding ways to get rid those of us with health issues about 6 months ago. It took a little while for the pattern to be apparent.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 28, 2012 11:47 AM (piMMO)

170 We have the government we so richly deserve, even if we didn't vote for any of it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 28, 2012 11:47 AM (d0Tfm)

171 So, there's no good write up without me having to dig around the interwebs that explains why this bill is a huge piece of dung that will bankrupt America within 10 years.

Ok. Off to the search engines.

Posted by: © Sponge at June 28, 2012 11:47 AM (UK9cE)

172 Folks, I ain't happy with the ruling either. But John Roberts just
1) set serious limits on the Commerce clause
2) redefined Obamacare as a huge tax on the middle class, and
3) energized the tea party as well as a lot of folks who don't consider themselves tea partiers.
None of those are bad things.It may not bewhat Roberts intended to do; but I'm pretty sure he understands what the effects of this ruling will be.
Nice finesse.

Posted by: Jim in Virginia at June 28, 2012 11:47 AM (+ciOu)

173 Bob Beckle is going to be insufferable on The Five tonight.

Posted by: Serious Cat at June 28, 2012 11:46 AM (zrpqj)
You do have the option NOT to watch.....well, for the moment you have the option.

Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2012 11:48 AM (X6akg)

174 Here's a strange thought.

This is such a big victory for the Left, it doesn't even matter to them if Obama loses in November.

This ruling is Indelible and this law is here to stay until the end. The Left won big today.

Posted by: soothsayer at June 28, 2012 11:44 AM (uff2W)

True dat.

The left knows that a huge defeat in November is worth it because their Obamacare victory is practically set in stone. They will just wait until they have power again and make things even worse.

This will not end well...

Posted by: The Political Hat at June 28, 2012 11:48 AM (XYqoq)

175 Check out Redstate's piece I'm not down on Judge Roberts

http://bit.ly/MYf8Eb

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 28, 2012 11:48 AM (piMMO)

176 Remember, this is a tax on poor people. Not a tax on rich people. Racists.

Please elaborate.

Posted by: fluffy at June 28, 2012 11:48 AM (z9HTb)

177 imposing a tax and collecting[i/] a tax are two entirely different things.

Posted by: J. Gault at June 28, 2012 11:49 AM (Nj0Fd)

178 Oh hell! You're just trying to wear me out now, aren't you?

Posted by: Admiral Painter at June 28, 2012 11:49 AM (HNn1q)

179 In other SCOTUS rulings, the supremes have said that the Stolen Valor law is unconstitutional. The court has ruled in favor of a politician who claimed to be a decorated veteran, but was not.

The hits keep on coming...

Posted by: navybrat at June 28, 2012 11:49 AM (LRY2r)

180 Ahhh... Philly cheese steak makes it all better.

Posted by: dananjcon at June 28, 2012 11:49 AM (eavT+)

181 My self-insured employer started finding ways to get rid those of us with health issues about 6 months ago. It took a little while for the pattern to be apparent.

That's an ADA violation IIRC.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at June 28, 2012 11:49 AM (VtjlW)

182 93 Ed Henry tweets:

even more from CJustice Roberts: "It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.”
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Roberts is right.

Don't like my ruling? Organize, educate, and activate. Congress can levy taxes, but they can also repeal them. The choice is back on you, American citizens.

Were you fooled by the Democrats and Obama's "Hope & Change"? Shame on you, not shame me.

I like what Roberts is alluding to here.

Posted by: Win Some, Lose Some! But Mainly Lose. at June 28, 2012 11:49 AM (AxE3L)

183 This too cute by half legal tomfoolery always ends up with such predictable results, doesn't it?

Posted by: Jaws at June 28, 2012 11:49 AM (4I3Uo)

184 Let's face it, Robert's fears what the left wing zealots would do if the struck the mandate.You think he didnt read the stories on how McCains tour bus had bullet holes in it or how Bashir runs a clip blowing up Romney's bus on a national news network?
I'm sure he weighed both the left and the right and realized that the left has a free pass to follow through on violence and the right will just call him names.
He may have made the best decision for himself in fubaring the country.

Posted by: Drider at June 28, 2012 11:49 AM (HaJD9)

185 I am reminded of Ben Franklin's admonition that we have a republic if we can keep it. Well, the verdict is in, Ben, we can't keep it. It's dead. Kiss it goodbye and weep for what was. This is the last nail in the coffin. We can flail around trying to repeal this stillbirth, but it won't do any good. Zimbabwe, here we come!

Posted by: SittingShiva at June 28, 2012 11:50 AM (by8hs)

186 Nice finesse.

He can finesse all he wants to. We're still fucked.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 28, 2012 11:50 AM (d0Tfm)

187 Liberals always look worst when they let down their guard and start being honest.

Posted by: Dave S. at June 28, 2012 11:50 AM (WY3bD)

188 Remain anonymous in your healthcare decisions.
That's your right to privacy at work.

Posted by: justice baby killer at June 28, 2012 11:50 AM (nrW1y)

189 Don't forget who is exempt from this crap sandwich. Congress, Senate, Unions, Govt. Workers and everyone else who got a free ride ticket from HHS.

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at June 28, 2012 11:51 AM (pUOpM)

190 Now I will have to learn all the details of this abortion of a law to find out at what point it is most advantageous to drop my health insurance.

Crap. I hate legalese.

Posted by: toby928© Person of Pudge at June 28, 2012 11:51 AM (QupBk)

191 Romney has one chance to get it right, one chance. He should take his time.

Posted by: starry at June 28, 2012 11:51 AM (oZfic)

192 This is such a big victory for the Left, it doesn't even matter to them if Obama loses in November.

Oh please. They never stop advancing. They never stop crying and whining and lying, either. You are crazy if you think this somehow "satisfies" them. Know your enemy.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 28, 2012 11:51 AM (+4Ho1)

193
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Posted by: Thomas Jefferson at June 28, 2012 11:51 AM (pUOpM)

194 140 You don't have to go without insurance to refuse compliance, just fail to report to the Feds where you get your insurance from. Remain anonymous in your healthcare decisions.
Posted by: Serious Cat at June 28, 2012 11:41 AM (zrpqj)

In MA you must report your insurance on your tax form.

Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 11:43 AM (ejmiE)

So?

Just leave it off the form. You are still insured. I assume having legal problems with the state comptroller does not void your plan.

Posted by: Serious Cat at June 28, 2012 11:52 AM (zrpqj)

195 Posted by: Greg at June 28, 2012 11:51 AM (j+Xk7)

Fuck off Joe. Have a heart and just get the fuck out for today.

Posted by: toby928© Person of Pudge at June 28, 2012 11:52 AM (QupBk)

196 The new civility

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at June 28, 2012 11:52 AM (Y5I9o)

197
@182 "Don't like my ruling? Organize, educate, and activate. Congress can levy taxes, but they can also repeal them. The choice is back on you, American citizens. "

No, Roberts is a fool. This is supposed to be a fucking Republic - not a Democracy. That means we have fucking rules to protect ourselves from "too much Democracy."

Posted by: Jaws at June 28, 2012 11:52 AM (4I3Uo)

198 Does anyone have a list of Republican Congressional candidates with a chance to beat a Dem? We need to start a money bomb list.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 28, 2012 11:53 AM (piMMO)

199 Romney speaking now

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 28, 2012 11:54 AM (piMMO)

200 Obamacare will never go away.

Once the government takes a power, it never relinquishes it. We are all peasants now.

Our children will never know what its like to be free.

Romney will not repeal this. Republicans will not repeal it with even a super majority.

They'll all strive to "fix" it.

WE are so fucked...........

Posted by: © Sponge at June 28, 2012 11:54 AM (UK9cE)

201 @182 "Don't like my ruling? Organize, educate, and activate. Congress can levy taxes, but they can also repeal them. The choice is back on you, American citizens. "
------------------------------------------------------
And the last tax to be repealed or rolled back was.................. um....... I got nuthin'.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 28, 2012 11:54 AM (jucos)

202 There is now no line that won't be crossed, no right that can't be taken away, and no freedom.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 28, 2012 11:54 AM (d0Tfm)

203 It was all too tempting to overlook this for a while, but let's face it. Throughout the modern era the courts have simply been the Democrats' playground. Once they can get something there, they win.

Posted by: Jeroboam at June 28, 2012 11:55 AM (Tcwdq)

204 new thread

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 28, 2012 11:56 AM (piMMO)

205
The waivers. Ah the waivers that Obama granted.
If this is a tax, then those waivers are not worth the paper they were written on.

It wouldmean that the Executivecould GRANT Bills of Attainder, which are expressly forbiddenby the Constitution for Congress to pass.
So Obama's waivers are shit. I wonder how that will play out?

The SCOTUS just stabbed Obama in the back on that one. Savor that little victory.
It's a tax. Own it. Bitches.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at June 28, 2012 11:56 AM (RFeQD)

206 75
69 Actually, the Cadillac plans that existed are going away because this bill taxes them.

-----

Yep.

-------------------------------------------------------------

Not for unions. The deal was they won't get taxed on their Cadillac Plans
till 2016.

Posted by: Deli LLama at June 28, 2012 11:57 AM (uv9eO)

207 If we want to get rid of obamacare we're going to have to replace President Obama.....

Mitt Romney....

Posted by: starry at June 28, 2012 11:57 AM (oZfic)

208 " With no planning at all by me, The Battle Hymn Of The Republic just came up on my iPod."

It was written by a liberal domestic terrorist who abetted John Brown. Her husband financed him. The music was originally the song John Brown's Body.

Your iPod was being ironic in that the President who believed the Warren court didn't go far enough is enjoying the ratification of his signature legislation.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at June 28, 2012 11:59 AM (i330i)

209 Just leave it off the form. You are still insured. I assume having legal problems with the state comptroller does not void your plan.
Posted by: Serious Cat at June 28, 2012 11:52 AM (zrpqj)

If you leave it off the tax form you must pay a fine.

Posted by: eman at June 28, 2012 11:59 AM (ejmiE)

210 Are you sure this is as bad as you're making it sound? Roberts has forced the "victors" to define it as a tax. First, he has established a limit on the power of Congress via the Commerce Clause. Second, he has forced Congress to come out from behind its sanctimonious prattle about "affordable health care" and raise taxes in order to fund it. In other words, he has outed Obama. (Not that there's anything wrong with that!)

Posted by: Cricket at June 28, 2012 12:00 PM (DrC22)

211
>>Are you sure this is as bad as you're making it sound?

Yes.

Posted by: Fucked Citizens of America at June 28, 2012 12:01 PM (yPNqR)

212 "Roberts is right.

Don't like my ruling? Organize, educate, and activate."

How about impeach?

Posted by: schizoid at June 28, 2012 12:02 PM (RAWKi)

213 This would make an awesome GOP ad - spiking the football in sweary way, in the name of a widely unpopular bill?

Posted by: DRH at June 28, 2012 12:02 PM (xFoDt)

214 Oh please. They never stop advancing. They never stop crying and whining and lying, either. You are crazy if you think this somehow "satisfies" them. Know your enemy.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 28, 2012 11:51 AM (+4Ho1)

Yeah, the crazy bitch on Carlton who's husband was strumming his guitar up and down my block when this POS passed has a new sign up. She's angry it isn't single payer. They'll keep pushing.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at June 28, 2012 12:02 PM (i330i)

215 I never said it satisfies the Left.

Obamacare is only the beginning. Now the Left can do whatever they want with the Court's pre-approval. Obama is nice to have in the White House for expediency, but no longer necessary.

Today the Left won the Super Bowl.
Obama winning in November is like winning the Pro Bowl.

Posted by: soothsayer at June 28, 2012 12:02 PM (QI6D6)

216 201 @182 "Don't like my ruling? Organize, educate, and activate. Congress can levy taxes, but they can also repeal them. The choice is back on you, American citizens. "
------------------------------------------------------
And the last tax to be repealed or rolled back was.................. um....... I got nuthin'.
----------------------------------------

It's still up to the people, Truck. :-)

Posted by: Win Some, Lose Some! But Mainly Lose. at June 28, 2012 12:02 PM (sv/s3)

217 "There are TEN Supremes now"

Chicago rules; a dead guy was included.

Posted by: DRH at June 28, 2012 12:03 PM (xFoDt)

218 "We told you it wasn't a tax.

SUCKERS!!!"

Posted by: Socratease at June 28, 2012 12:04 PM (tSohG)

219 It's still up to the people, Truck. :-)

What is?

Posted by: Drider at June 28, 2012 12:04 PM (HaJD9)

220 No, Roberts is a fool."

That's exactly damn right. The constitution, which he took an oath to uphold, is now dead letter. He just put it on his backyard grill and lit it up. Buh-Bye! Gone. Just like our republic.
It was nice knowin' you folks! I'm off to . . . uh . . . Zimbabwe, no, North Korea, no, . . . um . . . someone remind me, uh,where do we gonow thatthe U.S. is a basketcase?

Posted by: SittingShiva at June 28, 2012 12:07 PM (by8hs)

221 CJ Roberts to conservatives: I'm revolting.

Conservatives to CJ Roberts: Yes, you are.

Posted by: Nash Rambler at June 28, 2012 12:09 PM (vXucy)

222 To the DNC:

It's a TAX, bitches.

You're all on record saying it's not. During a major recession, you're going to choke on the biggest tax increase in US history and die.

Good riddance.

Posted by: Furball at June 28, 2012 12:14 PM (RYuyQ)

223 Those on the left are totally devoid of any of the characteristics that are the hallmark of a mature adult. Arrested development personified.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at June 28, 2012 12:14 PM (vbh31)

224 I am sure the guys who tweeted those remarks will resign shortly. Oh, wait, they're Democrats. Guess they'll be given awards then.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 28, 2012 12:19 PM (i0App)

225
If it was constitutional they woudn't have had to change it to a tax.

Also since when do the Dems concern themselves with whether something is constitutional?

I am proud of the Republicans for not spiking the ball after the decision.

Posted by: SCOTUS at June 28, 2012 12:26 PM (VLifP)

226 Roberts undoubtedly knew it was going to be upheld 5-4 in the initial vote of justices after oral argument. By switching sides, he assured that HE would write the opinion, not someone in the liberal group (Kennedy included). It also permitted him to narrowly uphold the law on tax grounds, as others have noted.

The anger on the right should be directed at Kennedy, and those Republican senators who voted to confirm Sotomayor and Kagan.

Posted by: JWD at June 28, 2012 12:49 PM (y5bPZ)

227 You should post Gaspard's picture. He is one ugly MOFO.

Posted by: A Lynch at June 28, 2012 12:55 PM (iHEkj)

228 78 The government could already do just about everything and call it a tax.They don't likje to call things taxes though.
Posted by: steevy at June 28, 2012 11:37 AM (Xb3hu)

Yes, but now they don't need to actually call it a tax -- they can call it anything they want when passing it,and only if challenged will theyhaveto argue that it within their taxing power.

Posted by: LASue at June 28, 2012 01:15 PM (pWeX5)

229 Here's a fundamental difference between the right and the left. To the left, courts decide if something is constitutional or not. The court ruled for them, so its constitutional.

To the right, something is constitutional on its own merits, reason, and based on the founding fathers' writings and thoughts on the matter. How the court rules is irrelevant: if they rule differently than the constitution states, they're just wrong. If they rule properly, they're right. They don't decide constitutionality, only how the government perceives it.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 28, 2012 01:18 PM (r4wIV)

230 Paying the fees for a HC plan is a tax. Paying the penalty is a tax. Supreme Court just said so.But heres the thing.No policy,No problem ,because the hospital and Now the Insurance companies CAN'T refuse to give me coverage till the end of time. That penalty is nothing compared to what a full year of health insurance will cost especially for single adults. Bring on the penalty boys, I got a ferrari to save up for.

Posted by: Rich K at June 28, 2012 01:42 PM (X4l3T)

231 And all you fools with 100k student loans to repay,on top of your new HC plan costs,Good fucking luck with that.Idiots all probably voted for that P.O.S.

Posted by: Rich K at June 28, 2012 01:44 PM (X4l3T)

232 Oh, Obama will figure out a way to waive those student loans, Rich.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at June 28, 2012 02:00 PM (r4wIV)

233 It's Contempt. Bitches.

Posted by: Phelps at June 28, 2012 02:10 PM (aeg8g)

234 <i>test</i>

Posted by: gebrauchshund at June 29, 2012 05:37 PM (iYwUw)

235 test

Posted by: gebrauchshund at June 29, 2012 05:37 PM (iYwUw)

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