Canadian PM Harper: The Price The US Pays For Canadian Oil Is About To Go Up, Up, Up, Thanks To President Ladies' Tee

I didn't know this.

Good article about how strained the relationship is between Obama and Harper (and Obama and Mexico, too).

And also, how the media hides the story here. They don't want to report another Obama failure. So they don't. They just pretend.

But Harper says Obama's Keystone decision will cost you cash money.

The Winnipeg Free Press reported that Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper warned Obama the U.S. will have to pay market prices for its Canadian oil after Obama's de facto veto of the Keystone XL pipeline. Canada is preparing to sell its oil to China.
Until now, NAFTA had shielded the U.S. from having to pay global prices for Canadian oil. That's about to change.

I didn't know that. That's always a tough thing to say, because if you're writing and people are reading, you're supposed to know at least the very basics of stuff.

But I always thought the increased cost of Canadian oil would be an indirect thing -- with no ease for Canada of selling it to us, they don't give us a price break.

But it turns out that Keystone would have directly affected the cost of Canadian oil.

And Obama chose -- chose -- for the US to pay higher prices.

Via John Sexton, writing at Breitbart's BigPeace:

PM Harper: And the truth of the matter is that, when it comes to oil in particular, we do face a significant discount on the marketplace because of the fact that we're a captive supplier. We have made it clear to the people of Canada, one of our national priorities is to make sure that we have the infrastructure and the capacity to export our energy products outside of North America.

Canada was in a poor negotiating position with us on the price of their oil, as they were a captive supplier. And, it turns out, they were nice enough to be okay with this situation. They weren't looking to change it.

But Obama has announced that Canada cannot rely on us to simply take their oil at below market prices.

And now, he says (at the link) this is irrevocable.

In terms of the second part of your question, would approval of this change our mind, uh, the answer is no. Look, the very fact that a "no" could even be said underscores to our country that we must diversify our energy export markets. But as I say we have taken a significant price hit by virtue of the fact that we're a captive supplier and that just does not make sense in terms of the broader interest of the Canadian economy.

Sexton says Solyndra is no longer Obama's biggest energy blunder.

That boondoggle cost us a mere half a billion dollars. This is going to cost us a lot more, year after year after year.

Thanks to LauraW (@laurww on Twitter).

Thus Spake Biden: Our energy policy is the very best it's ever been.

No, really.

In related news, Fisker, which got government funding to build cars in Joe Biden's Delaware, might not (brace yourself) build cars in Joe Biden's Delaware at all.

Not unless it gets additional government money (or private, they allow-- but they do mention sweet, sweet government cash).

Fisker Automotive Inc. said it is delaying production of its next-generation family sedan and may not build the vehicle in Wilmington, Del.," Detroit News reports here. "CEO Tom LaSorda," ex boss of Chrysler, said "Fisker may move production outside the United States" if it doesn't raise enough additional government or private money to build here."

Thanks to @drewmtips and Kenneth.

Status Update: Real.

Posted by: Ace at 04:55 PM

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1 Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: antisocialist at April 04, 2012 04:57 PM (j/nZn)

2 IIRC, isn't Canada the leading supplier of US oil?

Annnnnd loathing of the SCOAMT goes up again!

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 04, 2012 04:57 PM (VtjlW)

3
"This is going to cost us a lot more, year after year after year."

How many divisions has Prime Minister Harper? The oil can very easily be taken.

Posted by: Prezidizzle Obizzle at April 04, 2012 04:57 PM (FsqHK)

4 alex, I believe so. I think it's Canada, then a country I forget, and only then Saudi Arabia.

Posted by: ace at April 04, 2012 04:58 PM (nj1bB)

5
Mexico might be #2, I dunno.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 04, 2012 04:59 PM (jUytm)

6 "Trans-Pacific Partnership"

Anyone else translate that as "Transvestite - Asian gang?"

Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 04, 2012 04:59 PM (RfvTE)

7 And Obama chose -- chose -- for the US to pay higher prices.

Under my plan, energy prices will necessarily skyrocket. And if you want to build a coal plant, you can, but we're going to bankrupt you.

Posted by: Truman North at April 04, 2012 05:00 PM (I2LwF)

8 Gee. It's almost as if he's not even on our side.

Posted by: mama winger at April 04, 2012 05:00 PM (P6QsQ)

9
Top 10 Sources for U.S. Crude Oil in 2009

1. Canada – 1.94 million bpd
2. Mexico – 1.13
3. Saudi Arabia – 1.09
4. Venezuela – 1.01
5. Nigeria – 0.74
6. Angola – 0.48
7. Iraq – 0.47
8. Brazil – 0.30
9. Algeria – 0.28
10. Colombia – 0.25

Posted by: soothsayer at April 04, 2012 05:00 PM (jUytm)

10 It's Canada, Saudi Arabia, then Mexico.

http://tinyurl.com/4mrsd4e

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at April 04, 2012 05:01 PM (bjRNS)

11 This is all by design. "Green" energy only becomes viable after the usual forms of energy become very, very expensive.

Posted by: Mitchell at April 04, 2012 05:01 PM (BvNzB)

12 "How many divisions has Prime Minister Harper? The oil can very easily be taken."
You guys can't even finish off Afghanistan.
Canada isn't Iran...we can have a nuke ready by Tuesday morning.

Posted by: Doowleb at April 04, 2012 05:01 PM (r+Gn+)

13 This further demonstrates that the President has little influence over gas prices.

Posted by: The MSM Fact checking layers at April 04, 2012 05:02 PM (SY2Kh)

14
So let me get this straight, while the media is busy saying that the president doesn't affect the price of Gas (which I suppose is somewhat valid to a point) the president is going out and <i> directly affecting the price of gas!</i>

Wow, I'm floored. No I'm not. ABO Nov '12.

Posted by: tsrblke at April 04, 2012 05:02 PM (SYrwI)

15 I think it's Canada, then a country I forget, and only then Saudi Arabia.

I'm pretty sure it goes Canada, Mexico and then Saudi.
On the divisions to take it thing, I always sort of joke that isn't taking over Canada one of the potential Boy Scout merit badges. It's not like it would take more than one troop. Which is actually very sad since in WWII, the Canadian troops were some of the baddest of all badasses.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 04, 2012 05:02 PM (VtjlW)

16 Explanation on the difference between soothsayer's number's and mine. My link is to September, 2011.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at April 04, 2012 05:02 PM (bjRNS)

17 There is just nothing on the planet this dude can't fuck up miserably , is there?

Posted by: Berserker at April 04, 2012 05:03 PM (FMbng)

18 It's Canada, Saudi Arabia, then Mexico.

that's more up-to-date, yes, thanks

Posted by: soothsayer at April 04, 2012 05:03 PM (jUytm)

19 Well duh. It is the same for any business that goes offshore. You think if obama drove them away they are going to instantly come back when someone else is elected. I think he has opened peoples eyes to how unstable things can be so why come back.

Posted by: robtron at April 04, 2012 05:04 PM (gsy5B)

20 Another victory for our Glorious Leader!

Posted by: American Society of News Editors at April 04, 2012 05:04 PM (/JwbR)

21 Mommy, please make it stop. Now. Please. ~whimper, sniff, sniff~

Posted by: eureka! at April 04, 2012 05:04 PM (LQIyD)

22 Wow, I'm floored. No I'm not. ABO Nov '12.

Yeah. As much as I hate to admit it-Yeah.

Posted by: Methos at April 04, 2012 05:04 PM (6LvlL)

23 Well we will just have to round up some Finians and go take it.

Posted by: Jean at April 04, 2012 05:04 PM (46qC3)

24
@12: "Canada isn't Iran...we can have a nuke ready by Tuesday morning."

That's cute. Ihavemine ready now.

Posted by: Prezidizzle Obizzle at April 04, 2012 05:05 PM (FsqHK)

25 Just when I think Obama can't possibly become more loathsome....

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 04, 2012 05:05 PM (i0App)

26 Gweggie, EggMcNuttin, and Raykon not hit nearly hard enough...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 04, 2012 05:05 PM (JEpGb)

27 Cough ... cough .... it's Alberta , although Saskabush is getting it' act together quickly as well .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 04, 2012 05:05 PM (npr0X)

28
The sooner it goes up, the better. The 52% need to be mugged by reality.

Posted by: the new, improved arhooley -- now with 10% more cynicism! at April 04, 2012 05:05 PM (v31I6)

29 *singing*

Blame Canada!... Blame Canada!...

Posted by: SCOAMF, explaining how a Pres can no longer affect gas prices at April 04, 2012 05:05 PM (0tGb7)

30 Imagine if all else being the same, gas prices were low and with the media running full court offense and defense and refereeing for him... nearly half the country would think he was the greatest president ever.

Think about that.

Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 04, 2012 05:05 PM (RfvTE)

31 Oh Yeah?? When Barky's friends on StarTrek hear about this, they are gonna invent floating anti-grav cars and we won't need your damn dirty oil you damn Canucks! Ha!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 04, 2012 05:05 PM (f9c2L)

32 Chairman Zero...Now with the reverse Midas touch!

Posted by: Curtis, what got slapped at April 04, 2012 05:06 PM (Nym5C)

33 We aren't even seeing the tip of the iceberg that is the 'Cost of Obama'.
We'll be paying for this Historic Prediduncy for the next 100 years.

Posted by: garrett at April 04, 2012 05:06 PM (JcLYI)

34 Hey no problem these fucking clowns got everything figured out.

The republicans don't seem to care very much either.

Why are we making such a big deal about this?

It only effects EVERY FUCKING THING!!!

Posted by: McLovin at April 04, 2012 05:07 PM (j0IcY)

35 Why is Mexico racist? Why is Canada attacking us from the proverbial right? How far down this rabbit hole are we?

Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 04, 2012 05:07 PM (RfvTE)

36
Your frustration, I share it.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 04, 2012 05:08 PM (jUytm)

37 Well, looks like I can finally close my littlerestaurant then. Gas prices are just killing us. Killed us last year and we were just starting to recover when they started spiking again. I can't imagine we're not going to see it spike further this summer. I had false hope that we might be able to hold out until next year after a Republican win, but I'm not going through another meat grinder of working for free for 8 months.

Fuck these motherfuckers.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at April 04, 2012 05:08 PM (isP0N)

38
""Chairman Zero...Now with the reverse Midas touch!""

The feces touch.

Posted by: Berserker at April 04, 2012 05:08 PM (FMbng)

39 We'll be paying for this Historic Prediduncy for the next 100 years.

I have good news and bad news for you on that point.

Posted by: Collapse, depression, global war, unnatural relations between dogs and cats at April 04, 2012 05:08 PM (6LvlL)

40 We have a bunch of Closet Canadians here--

I think this actually goes back to during Obama's campaign.

The Canadians leaked something one of Obama's economic advisors told them.

Big Ole IIRC on that .

Posted by: tasker at April 04, 2012 05:09 PM (r2PLg)

41 You know we could just go and take, or liberate, if you will, the western half of Canada. You every think about that, Harper.

Posted by: toby928© at April 04, 2012 05:09 PM (GTbGH)

42 Barack Obama:

The gift that keeps fucking you in the ass whether you want it to or not.

Posted by: © Sponge at April 04, 2012 05:09 PM (UK9cE)

43 I think I get it now, Obama's economics are based on Star Trek. Money is meaningless, its about personal fulfillment.

Posted by: Jean at April 04, 2012 05:09 PM (46qC3)

44 Yeah, but did you know Romney's first name is Willard?

Posted by: ABR-tards at April 04, 2012 05:09 PM (BB0/w)

45
toby, did you notice that your heckler is heckling you in the other thread?

Posted by: soothsayer at April 04, 2012 05:09 PM (jUytm)

46 Ace!

The oil that would have been delivered to the United States which has strict anti-pollutuion laws and would have been delivered via a non-energy consuming (well, for all practical purposes anyway) method will now go to the Chinese who have no real anti-pollutiuon restrictions and it will be shipped via massive oil-burning tankers!

Don't you understand this president CARES about the environment?!?!

Posted by: Sgt. York at April 04, 2012 05:10 PM (5Y+DR)

47 >>>It only effects EVERY FUCKING THING!!!

Yup.

Posted by: mike at April 04, 2012 05:10 PM (fsTVa)

48 It's like our president is stupid or something.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 04, 2012 05:10 PM (KNvk+)

49
Thankfully I have the option of working from home, which I've been doing now for a few months only going in when I have to. So I've only filled up my gas tank about 1/month. Because it costs me nearly $40 to fill up my CHEVY AVEO. The thing has only a 12 gallon tank.

OT: There needs to be a thing that tells me stupid shit I should know, like how to use italics, and what some of the inside jokes are around here (late to the party, I know, I know.)

Posted by: tsrblke at April 04, 2012 05:10 PM (SYrwI)

50 Shit just got real expensive

Posted by: garrett at April 04, 2012 05:10 PM (JcLYI)

51 Majority of Canadians have loathed the cartton version of us their media paints for years. They also droooled all over Obama.

Somehow this is crappiest tasting and smelling shadenfreud I have ever been served. Someone send it back and fire the chef.

Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 04, 2012 05:10 PM (RfvTE)

52 >>
I think I get it now, Obama's economics are based on Star Trek. Money is meaningless, its about personal fulfillment.

Food comes from replicators, and dilithium crystals get you anywhere you need to be.

Posted by: Radish A. Radish at April 04, 2012 05:10 PM (ZKzrr)

53 It's not Obama's fault. Why would he have any concept of Supply Demand?

Posted by: krakatoa at April 04, 2012 05:11 PM (Mc/bO)

54 toby, did you notice that your heckler is heckling you in the other thread?

Who dat? I'm vaguely working right now, so I missed it.

Posted by: toby928© at April 04, 2012 05:11 PM (GTbGH)

55
official UE data willbe released tomorrow morning

if it's good, (+200K) expect Obama to take a victory lap and expect the Republicans to go mum.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 04, 2012 05:11 PM (jUytm)

56
Another dose of Hope'N'Change. How much more must we endure?
Did I mention how much I fucking hate Limeys? I thought not.

Posted by: maddogg at April 04, 2012 05:11 PM (OlN4e)

57 >>and it will be shipped via massive oil-burning tankers!

Who cleans up the spills? Canada or China?

Posted by: Radish A. Radish at April 04, 2012 05:12 PM (ZKzrr)

58 Waiting for him to claim it would be unconstitutional for Canada to raise prices...

Posted by: Mama AJ, Pasty-Hispanic at April 04, 2012 05:12 PM (pUAXu)

59 Somebody please stop the world, I wanna get off.

Posted by: Infidel at April 04, 2012 05:12 PM (O/fK8)

60 As I said this morning, it takes a lot to piss off Canada. Barky has managed to do it. Another foreign policy triumph for Barky and his commie minions.

And a stark reminder of what most of us have been saying since this worthless SOB was elected by stupid people. He is a liar. Every word out of his mouth is a lie. You can not listen to what he are his PR lords in the MFM say. You have to watch what he does.

When he says out the corner of his mouth he is trying to keep gas prices down at the same time he is blocking drilling in the Caribbean and blocking the Keystone Pipeline you get the picture.

And on a related issue, do not believe for a minute that the economy is recovering. Unemployment is actually over 20% and the GDP numbers are a lie.

The economy will not recover until he and the Democrats are completely out of power.

Posted by: Vic at April 04, 2012 05:12 PM (YdQQY)

61 A subsequently leaked memo did reveal that Obama's chief economic adviser, Austan Goldsbee, had met with Canadian officials at the Chicago consulate and told them, according to the Canadian memo, that the Illinois senator's anti-NAFTA talk should be construed as "political positioning."

http://www.thestar.com/World/Columnist/article/332041

*************

The Canadians have a big-

we tried to tell ya......here.

Posted by: tasker at April 04, 2012 05:12 PM (r2PLg)

62
Wait. What am I saying???

+200K jobs is not good, it sucks.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 04, 2012 05:12 PM (jUytm)

63 12, Canada could be a member of the 4 wrench turn nuclear club.

Posted by: Jean at April 04, 2012 05:12 PM (46qC3)

64 50
Shit just got real expensive

Posted by: garrett

You left out the.....:

Shit just got real.....expensive.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 04, 2012 05:12 PM (KNvk+)

65 Most summits are mush-mouthed affairs full of pleasantries. Tuesday's
"Three Amigos" summit was different: a litany of how President Obama has
alienated our neighbors.

More smart diplomacy from President Arrogant Prick

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 04, 2012 05:12 PM (1Jaio)

66 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) on his phone at April 04, 2012 05:12 PM (KxyHe)

67 I'm still wrapping my head around how fucking idiotic this is. Surely Bambi has advisers who told him that this would be an implication of not building the Keystone pipeline...unless...nahhh, he couldn't hate his own country THAT much, right? (Right?)

Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at April 04, 2012 05:13 PM (RD7QR)

68 And the cost of groceries will continue to skyrocket.

Low and moderate income people will be the hardest hit by higher prices for gas and groceries.

And the liberals will deal with that by continuing to generate hatred for the rich.

No class warfare my ass.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 04, 2012 05:13 PM (P7ufZ)

69 41 You know we could just go and take, or liberate, if you will, the western half of Canada. You every think about that, Harper.

Another four years of teh one and Western Canada might have Imperial thoughts of it's own .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 04, 2012 05:13 PM (npr0X)

70 It's not Obama's fault. Why would he have any concept of Supply Demand?
Posted by: krakatoa at April 04, 2012 05:11 PM (Mc/bO)

You think he'd have learned this duringhis coke years.

Posted by: garrett at April 04, 2012 05:13 PM (JcLYI)

71
Your heckler is all excited about the coming of Recovery Summer II: This Time We Mean It.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 04, 2012 05:13 PM (jUytm)

72
Canada isn't Iran...we can have a nuke ready by Tuesday morning.

Get Red Green right on it.

Posted by: nickless at April 04, 2012 05:13 PM (MMC8r)

73 Wh, wha, what... he called my bluff?

Why does everybody keep doing that?

Posted by: SCOAMF at April 04, 2012 05:13 PM (0tGb7)

74 And also, how the media hides the story here. They don't want to report
another Obama failure. So they don't. They just pretend.

Why it's almost as if the MFM has a raging bias

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 04, 2012 05:14 PM (1Jaio)

75 I think he has opened peoples eyes to how unstable things can be so why come back.

Well, China's not looking like an island of stability in the next few decades. Rather than picking winners and losers, I prefer to think that we will all lose.
Clovis, anyone?

Posted by: pep at April 04, 2012 05:14 PM (6TB1Z)

76 Elect Newt and we'll annex their ass.

Posted by: nickless at April 04, 2012 05:14 PM (MMC8r)

77 If Obama/Jarret were say radical leftists who largely disliked Americans and its culture ... how much would they be doing different?

Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 04, 2012 05:14 PM (RfvTE)

78 If you were deliberately trying to hurt America, can you think of one thing you'd do differently than Obama?

smdh!

Posted by: Tonic Dog at April 04, 2012 05:14 PM (X/+QT)

79 <<>>and it will be shipped via massive oil-burning tankers!

Who cleans up the spills? Canada or China?>>

Who cares?!?! The important thing is, it's not our problem. ENVIRONMENT SAVED!

Posted by: Sgt. York at April 04, 2012 05:15 PM (5Y+DR)

80 You all just hate the president because he's so good at diplomacy.

Posted by: passably affable at April 04, 2012 05:15 PM (t+Vmm)

81 It's not Obama's fault. Why would he have any concept of Supply Demand?

Posted by: krakatoa at April 04, 2012 05:11 PM (Mc/bO)

You think he'd have learned this duringhis coke years.

Posted by: garrett at April 04, 2012 05:13 PM (JcLYI)

For Barry it was a blow for blow arrangement

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 04, 2012 05:15 PM (1Jaio)

82 49, you might want to stay away from the overnight thread till you rub off some of the factory polish

Posted by: Jean at April 04, 2012 05:15 PM (46qC3)

83 Because it costs me nearly $40 to fill up my CHEVY AVEO. The thing has only a 12 gallon tank.
---
I have a friend with a pickup that takes 22 gallons. He broke $100 on a fill up last week. Anyone wanna guess how long that can go on, particularly once it hits folks with sedans and such, without economic consequence?

Posted by: Methos at April 04, 2012 05:15 PM (6LvlL)

84 You know we could just go and take, or liberate, if you will, the western half of Canada. You every think about that, Harper.

Posted by: toby928© at April 04, 2012 05:09 PM (GTbGH)
Hell, I don't blame Canada. They offered us a primo deal. SCOAMF told 'em to go fcuk themselves, fcuking us in the process. If I was Harper, all bets would be off.

Posted by: antisocialist at April 04, 2012 05:15 PM (j/nZn)

85
Obama and his media will just have to decree that the UE rate is 0%.

Because there's no way it's going any lower.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 04, 2012 05:15 PM (jUytm)

86 I have to give credit where its due. There is nothing, NOTHING the fucktard can't gum up. Tis a rare talent.

Posted by: maddogg at April 04, 2012 05:16 PM (OlN4e)

87 official UE data willbe released tomorrow morning

if it's good, (+200K) expect Obama to take a victory lap and expect the Republicans to go mum.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 04, 2012 05:11 PM (jUytm)

I'm guessing that won't include the 12% of it's work force that Yahoo is laying off.

Posted by: © Sponge at April 04, 2012 05:16 PM (UK9cE)

88 As I understand it (SCOAMF splained it to me) oil is a commodity, and producing oil ourselves (in Amerika) won't change the price we pay at the pump.

So how is it that, given an opportunity to buy oil at a discount doesn't translate into buying gas at a discount?

Why can SCOAMF threaten energy companies so as to run them out of business, but he can't introduce legislation that gives the savings in oil (that we or another NAFTA signatory sells) back to the buyers? And why can't he introduce legislation to pass that saving back to us directly at the pump? (Bypassing the fuckwads in Washington.)

It doesn't take a genius to come up with ideas like these. What are we paying him for, anyway?

Posted by: Jay Bee at April 04, 2012 05:16 PM (Xwgt3)

89 Posted by: Dr Spank at April 04, 2012 05:12 PM (KNvk+)

There is a serious disconnect between what I type and what is posted. If I delete anything before I hitpost, all formattingbets are off.

Posted by: garrett at April 04, 2012 05:16 PM (JcLYI)

90 Barack Obama Hates America.

Posted by: nickless at April 04, 2012 05:16 PM (MMC8r)

91 Gas prices piss me off. I'm about to rent a truck and go pick up some furniture from family in DC. Looking forward to driving around the Capitol again, not looking forward to biting my tongue around my liberal family about how much I'm spending to drive around. But they are giving me furniture, so I'll wait till election season to go all Breitbart on them.

Posted by: NC Ref at April 04, 2012 05:17 PM (/izg2)

92 Wake me up when it's Go Time.

Posted by: bad guy at April 04, 2012 05:17 PM (ligUZ)

93 67 I'm still wrapping my head around how fucking idiotic this is. Surely Bambi has advisers who told him that this would be an implication of not building the Keystone pipeline...unless...nahhh, he couldn't hate his own country THAT much, right? (Right?)
Posted by: joncelli, heartless Con and all around unpleasant guy at April 04, 2012 05:13 PM (RD7QR)
___

Keep going. You're on the right track.

Posted by: WisRich at April 04, 2012 05:18 PM (hdpay)

94 Posted by: garrett

I hear ya. My keyboard is also a piece of shit that decides some letters aren't worth it's trouble.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 04, 2012 05:18 PM (KNvk+)

95 Act now to claim the prime spots for sleeping under the overpasses.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 04, 2012 05:18 PM (4q5tP)

96
>>>I have to give credit where its due. There is nothing, NOTHING the fucktard can't gum up.

Te' mmm' 'bou' i'

Posted by: Kal Penn at April 04, 2012 05:18 PM (0tGb7)

97 OTOH, there's nothing that 2 fingers of Jameson's and a very heavy crystal tumbler can't fix.

Posted by: pep at April 04, 2012 05:18 PM (6TB1Z)

98 It's all part of the plan.

It's as simple as that.

Once you understand that all he wants is the very destruction of his own
country everything will snap into focus.

Posted by: McLovin at April 04, 2012 05:18 PM (j0IcY)

99 Geebus, this guy has to go.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 04, 2012 05:18 PM (DGIjM)

100 official UE data willbe released tomorrow morning
if it's good, (+200K) expect Obama to take a victory lap and expect the Republicans to go mum.Posted by: soothsayer

No drop in UE is going to change $16 trillion dollars of debt and another $70+ trillion of potential debt.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 04, 2012 05:19 PM (JEpGb)

101 $100 a tankful, no problem. FU52.

Posted by: NC Ref at April 04, 2012 05:19 PM (/izg2)

102 Wake me up when it's Go Time.

Time to turn it up a notch, eh?
OK...Cindy. You asked for it.
Mandelbaum! Mandelbaum! Mandelbaum!

Posted by: Izzy Mandelbaum at April 04, 2012 05:20 PM (JcLYI)

103 He can fix the relationship by giving Harper a DVD that only works in England.

Posted by: Mama AJ, Pasty-Hispanic at April 04, 2012 05:20 PM (YLeM7)

104 not looking forward to biting my tongue around my liberal family about
how much I'm spending to drive around. But they are giving me furniture,
so I'll wait till election season to go all Breitbart on them.

You are wise beyond your years.

Posted by: pep at April 04, 2012 05:20 PM (6TB1Z)

105 Per Vancouver newspaper the discount was $31 per barrel. http://tinyurl.com/6pjp22b

Posted by: Habitually Pessimistic at April 04, 2012 05:20 PM (/JwbR)

106 Thankfully I have the option of working from home,
which I've been doing now for a few months only going in when I have to.
So I've only filled up my gas tank about 1/month. Because it costs me
nearly $40 to fill up my CHEVY AVEO. The thing has only a 12 gallon
tank.

Posted by: tsrblke at April 04, 2012 05:10 PM (SYrwI)
Unfortunately it is not only about what it takes to fill up your tank, but truck drivers tanks bringing food to the grocers, anything bought had to arrive by something fueled for most part by gas. so all prices rise.

Posted by: willow at April 04, 2012 05:20 PM (TomZ9)

107 Well, lets see if Romney bothers to use this to beat Obama over the head. I'm cautiously optimistic that he will, but I've been disappointed before. It's sad that I even have to wonder whether his campaign will roll this out.

Posted by: Xander Crews at April 04, 2012 05:20 PM (/WNBU)

108 Tina at HA did a story on this yesterday afternoon and I linked it here then.

When I'm at the gas station filling up I like to mention in a loud voice "thanks Obama!". Because I'm a giver.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 04, 2012 05:21 PM (ccXZP)

109 Welcome to $6 a gallon gas.

Posted by: Annon at April 04, 2012 05:21 PM (vGlQg)

110 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at April 04, 2012 05:21 PM (7W3wI)

111 So I think if I follow the Obama trajectory--

the Obama campaign in 2008 lied about Obama lying.

Or something.

I fell dizzy.-oops! Feel dizzy.

Posted by: tasker at April 04, 2012 05:21 PM (r2PLg)

112 >>Per Vancouver newspaper the discount was $31 per barrel.

Sweet Michelle's Banned Foods List. That's almost a third of the current price.

Posted by: Radish A. Radish at April 04, 2012 05:22 PM (ZKzrr)

113 Eh. We weren't going anywhere good anyway.

Posted by: The United States Economy at April 04, 2012 05:22 PM (H84UO)

114 Barack Obama Hates America.
---
And he's a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Methos at April 04, 2012 05:22 PM (6LvlL)

115 Can't we have just a little prosperity?

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 04, 2012 05:22 PM (4q5tP)

116 It's so bad, the media isn't just trying to hide the truth from us anymore, at this point they are also are desperately trying to hide it form themselves.

It's like Ace says, if people admit they cant trust their own judgement their whole house of cards comes down.

Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 04, 2012 05:22 PM (RfvTE)

117 Well! That cleared that pesky Keystone Oil Pipeline thing off the table, didn't it?

Jugears thinks about the same of Harper as he does of Bibi.

Posted by: I am the walrus, goo goo ga joo at April 04, 2012 05:22 PM (PH+2B)

118 some good updatin'

Posted by: ace at April 04, 2012 05:23 PM (nj1bB)

119 I'm guessing that won't include the 12% of it's work force that Yahoo is laying off.

Posted by: © Sponge at April 04, 2012 05:16 PM (UK9cE)

Really? I didn't know that. Yet another company that went left with their business model and are now reaping the rewards.

Couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at April 04, 2012 05:23 PM (isP0N)

120 2013, can you believe the price of a loaf of bread, or a gallon of milk!

Posted by: willow at April 04, 2012 05:23 PM (TomZ9)

121 I'm pretty sure the networks will inform the population as per their Constitutional and patriotic duty.

Posted by: Schwalbe: The Me-262© at April 04, 2012 05:23 PM (UU0OF)

122 Under my plan, energy prices will necessarily skyrocket. And if you want to build a coal plant, you can, but we're going to bankrupt you.

So to paraphrase, Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable tyrant.

Posted by: fluffy at April 04, 2012 05:23 PM (3SvjA)

123 >>>CEO Tom LaSorda

Poor Tom ain't been the same since he got hit in the noggin' with the flying baseball bat.

Posted by: Kal Penn at April 04, 2012 05:23 PM (0tGb7)

124 [When I'm at the gas station filling up I like to mention in a loud voice "thanks Obama!". Because I'm a giver.]

Hey I like that. That will be fun. Maybe I'll wait til Sat. when the station is packed.

Posted by: Infidel at April 04, 2012 05:23 PM (O/fK8)

125 It's so bad, the media isn't just trying to hide the truth from us
anymore, at this point they are also are desperately trying to hide it
form themselves.

How very Norma Desmond of them.

Posted by: pep at April 04, 2012 05:23 PM (6TB1Z)

126 stupid formatting fail

Posted by: Infidel at April 04, 2012 05:23 PM (O/fK8)

127
just something to keep in mind for the next 4 weeks: 1st qtr 1984 GDP was 7.4%

Jobs added in 1st qtr 1984: 269K*, later revised to 363K.

*The NYT rounded it down to 250K in their reportage.

Posted by: soothsayer at April 04, 2012 05:24 PM (jUytm)

128 And the liberals will deal with that by continuing to generate hatred for the rich. No class warfare my ass.
Posted by: nerdygirl at April 04, 2012 05:13 PM (P7ufZ)
***********
And if that doesn't work, I have absolutely no problem blaming the Jooooos next.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at April 04, 2012 05:24 PM (ggRof)

129 >118
some good updatin'

Solid B+

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 04, 2012 05:24 PM (KNvk+)

130 Geez, we're going to have to work overtime to get this guy re-elected.

Oh, well. WHATEVER IT TAKES!!!

Posted by: Journalists at April 04, 2012 05:24 PM (H84UO)

131 Don't believe ANY of these UE numbers they are releasing. If they don't create at least 300K new jobs with 250K of them civilian jobs then we have more unemployment, not less.

They are no longer releasing those numbers because people have caught on.

Posted by: Vic at April 04, 2012 05:24 PM (YdQQY)

132 Woo-hoo! I got thanked for a tip (in re: Fisker)!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at April 04, 2012 05:24 PM (FcKXR)

133 So what %of our oil are we getting from Canada?

Posted by: Lauren at April 04, 2012 05:24 PM (6uFnU)

134 @112

That turns my current price for gas of $3.79 to $4.92.

$6 gas?

Shit we will be lucky if it's that low when this crew gets done!

Posted by: McLovin at April 04, 2012 05:24 PM (j0IcY)

135 Real shit just got too expensive.

Posted by: Mama AJ, Pasty-Hispanic at April 04, 2012 05:25 PM (YLeM7)

136 We actually have more people of working age unemployed now than at any time since the depression.

Posted by: Vic at April 04, 2012 05:25 PM (YdQQY)

137 Clearly, Biden meant "Our energy policy is the most audacious in 500 years".

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 04, 2012 05:25 PM (w/anX)

138 OT: it's good when your kids are old enough to cook. I get to sit upstairs and smell the onions frying. Aaaaaaaaahhh.

Posted by: pep at April 04, 2012 05:25 PM (6TB1Z)

139 @128

No they will just hate on PM Harper.

They're good with hate.

Hate is all they have.

Posted by: McLovin at April 04, 2012 05:26 PM (j0IcY)

140 I didn't read the post.
why would I read the update?

Posted by: garrett at April 04, 2012 05:26 PM (JcLYI)

141 Can't we have just a little prosperity?

If you have some cash....
I'll tax your ass!

Posted by: The Tax Man at April 04, 2012 05:26 PM (/izg2)

142 Gee. It's almost as if he's not even on our side.

Posted by: mama winger at April 04, 2012 05:00 PM (P6QsQ)

It's almost like he's actively trying to make things as bad as possible. LOL! That's crazy talk, I know. Crazy, crazy, crazy talk.

Posted by: Max Power at April 04, 2012 05:26 PM (q177U)

143 Wow. Just wow.

It's simply stunning.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at April 04, 2012 05:26 PM (JdSQO)

144 "Can't we have just a little prosperity?"
===============

At some point I think you've had enough prosperity.

Posted by: Baraka Obama at April 04, 2012 05:26 PM (H84UO)

145 We're well and truly "baracked".

Posted by: wooga at April 04, 2012 05:26 PM (vjyZP)

146 Ya...$31 more a barrel.

I'd say-the shit got so real--even Keith Olbermann might feel it.

Posted by: tasker at April 04, 2012 05:26 PM (r2PLg)

147 Pretend, just for a moment, that Obama hates America, Americans, freedom, the flag, the whole shebang.

I know, it's a wild stretch. I can barely manage it myself.

Now ask yourself:

What would he be doing differently?

Posted by: Delayna at April 04, 2012 05:27 PM (Vpydg)

148 I'm not sure how he thinks this helps him.

Posted by: nickless at April 04, 2012 05:27 PM (MMC8r)

149 Rephrased, In 2008 the media needed convince us, now in 2012 they are desperate to convince themselves.

Part of us always wants to just stand back and let leftists destroy themselves... but historically that almost never happens. Chaos comes the Soros-far left Union types put up some empty suits with "fresh" faces and take even greater control. (yes even worse then last time, and yes most of the people will fall for it)

Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 04, 2012 05:27 PM (RfvTE)

150 This is all by design. "Green" energy only becomes viable after the usual forms of energy become very, very expensive.

Posted by: Mitchell at April 04, 2012 05:01 PM (BvNzB)

Actually, it never becomes viable.

Posted by: Max Power at April 04, 2012 05:27 PM (q177U)

151
Posted by: Jean at April 04, 2012 05:15 PM (46qC3)

Pfffffftttttttttt. I come from rougher parts of the internet than this place (ok that's only half true.) but I can make my point without your fancy tags. (Also I'm never around my PC enough for the ONT, the wife is always wanting me to watch HGTV with her.)
Posted by: willow at April 04, 2012 05:20 PM (TomZ9)
I realize that's the case, but I have to cut corners wherever I can, and this is one of them. I'm thankful for the small stuff I can control (in this case my personal gas cost) and I'll deal with the shit I can't control at some other point in time.

Posted by: tsrblke at April 04, 2012 05:27 PM (SYrwI)

152 I'm seeing a lot more folks of Social Security age working the checkout registers and minimum wage type jobs in general. Hell, the whole front staff at Publix down here is geriatric now. Wasn't like that before.

Hell, wasn't even like that last year.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at April 04, 2012 05:27 PM (isP0N)

153 So I think it's safe to say that Canada is racist

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 04, 2012 05:28 PM (1Jaio)

154 I think at some point you have cockblocked enough oil production.

Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 04, 2012 05:28 PM (RfvTE)

155 why would I read the update?

Our energy needs will be fulfilled by Joe Biden splitting atoms with his mind.

Posted by: fluffy at April 04, 2012 05:28 PM (3SvjA)

156 AaaaaaaarrrrrRRRRRRGGGGGGH!!1!

It's happened. It's finally happened. I have Obama Derangement Syndrome.

I tried to vaccinate against it, but here it is.

I hate this man's guts from the bottom of my soul.

Posted by: Kensington at April 04, 2012 05:29 PM (H84UO)

157 They are no longer releasing those numbers because people have caught on.
Posted by: Vic at April 04, 2012 05:24 PM (YdQQY)

We are living in a 3rd world country. Corrupt press taking orders from the idiot n chief and deliberatly misleading info on the real numbers.

sickening.

and 43% of Americans are A-OK with it.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at April 04, 2012 05:29 PM (DGIjM)

158 Sexton says Solyndra is no longer Obama's biggest energy blunder.

Check this out, Ace--Solyndra's big brother?

http://tinyurl.com/7z4jt5o

Posted by: nickless at April 04, 2012 05:29 PM (MMC8r)

159 I'm starting to think Joe Biden is in the late stages of Alzheimer's.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 04, 2012 05:29 PM (KNvk+)

160 Once we get our algae production up and running we should be a-okay

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 04, 2012 05:30 PM (1Jaio)

161 The SCOAMT is doing exactly what he said he'd do during the 2008 campaign. I tried to tell people. They wouldn't listen. But it was all out there before they voted. Fuck you, 52%ers.

Posted by: Soona at April 04, 2012 05:30 PM (fKkxr)

162 Now you're cookin' with Algae!

Posted by: Paula Deen/Prudhomme at April 04, 2012 05:30 PM (r2PLg)

163 WHO RUNS BARTERTOWN?

Posted by: Barack H. MasterBlaster at April 04, 2012 05:30 PM (MMC8r)

164 It must also be said that PM Harper is completely correct and his logic spot-on concerning Canada's strategic need to decouple itself from an America it can not depend on.

Only when you've lost sight of basic economics, the basic numbers and dynamics of an economy and become so enveloped in the bullshit political games being played in America out of this administration can one lose sight of such fundamental truths.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at April 04, 2012 05:30 PM (JdSQO)

165 Posted by: Burn the Witch

Where's your restaurant?

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 04, 2012 05:30 PM (KNvk+)

166 Is that 31% number correct ?

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 04, 2012 05:31 PM (npr0X)

167 Part of us always wants to just stand back and let leftists destroy themselves... but historically that almost never happens.
---------------------------

Not true. It actually fails every time. The problem lies in how it fails. It is always a disaster for the population. And usually the leftest assholes that started the ball rolling abandon the country just before it collapses.

Posted by: Vic at April 04, 2012 05:31 PM (YdQQY)

168
Alternative Biden:
"Our energy policy appeases the base, which must be good, because....the enviroment and such. Energy is in now way connected to this horrible economy that President Obama inherited from the previous guys."

Posted by: tsrblke at April 04, 2012 05:31 PM (SYrwI)

169 Not to worry the 10,000 MW unicorn powered reactor will be ready in two months.

Posted by: Tjexcite at April 04, 2012 05:31 PM (ovjF+)

170 Gas prices due to his actions have risen 102% since he has been in office.

Not a complete list of his stupidity:

Passing on the Keystone XL PipelineClosing offdrilling in the ANWRClosing off drilling off the continental shelfClosing off coast lineEPA regulations shuttering refineries

Posted by: McLovin at April 04, 2012 05:32 PM (j0IcY)

171 153 So I think it's safe to say that Canada is racist
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 04, 2012 05:28 PM (1Jaio)

hurries off to find any Canadian link to white hispanic Zimmerman.

Posted by: MSM at April 04, 2012 05:32 PM (DGIjM)

172 It's happened. It's finally happened. I have Obama Derangement Syndrome.

I tried to vaccinate against it, but here it is.

Don't worry we have a stronger rectal vaccine coming to you via the Commerce Clause!

Posted by: Justice Breyer at April 04, 2012 05:32 PM (r2PLg)

173 >>>But Harper says Obama's Keystone decision will cost you cash money.

Uh-huh. Well this is only going to get worse over the summer. And if Obama is lucky enough to keep his anemic GDP growth going, it will exacerbate the problem going into November.

Gas is the albatross we need to hang around his neck. Unless the economy tanks again.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose now with dark clouds! at April 04, 2012 05:32 PM (0q2P7)

174 When even Canada is pissed at you it's time to give back all of those contributions to the re-election campaign.

Posted by: epobirs at April 04, 2012 05:33 PM (kcfmt)

175 "Please, let me face the prosperity. I can handle a little prosperity." - Sir Gallahad

"No, it's too prosperous." - Sir Barack Lancelot

"I'll bet you're gay." Sir Gallahad

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 04, 2012 05:33 PM (4q5tP)

176 I, I found this here rabbit, and I will hug him, and squeeze him, and name him George.

No. No. Not. George. That name of bad man who make things all bad for me and Barack.

Posted by: "Lenny" Biden at April 04, 2012 05:33 PM (rWv4e)

177 Obama might not be happy until we are all riding a bicycle to work and sleeping in coats in the winters.
i'm certain food will go up exponentially as well.

Posted by: willow at April 04, 2012 05:34 PM (TomZ9)

178 2M barrels per day, with a discount reports at approx $30 per barrel, that's $60M per day. That'll come to about 3 Solyndras per month. Or $70/per person per year, forever, all justfor the joy of appeasing the Greens, pissing off our former best ally, and assisting China with their fuel shortage. (Note to Greens: the oil will still get burned). That is like a hat trick of bad policy decisions.

Posted by: ZBBMcFate at April 04, 2012 05:34 PM (Hj9yW)

179 Now some people like to say that oil should be free, and nobody should have to pay anything for it, but, like I've always said, those are the false promises of the past, and I say we need to look to the future: windmill cars.

Posted by: Baraka Obama at April 04, 2012 05:34 PM (H84UO)

180 brb, fuckin' more shit up

Posted by: King Barky the Incompetent at April 04, 2012 05:34 PM (nj1bB)

181 159
I'm starting to think Joe Biden is in the late stages of Alzheimer's.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 04, 2012 05:29 PM (KNvk+)

Alzheimers? Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charles Gibson at April 04, 2012 05:34 PM (AWmfW)

182 $100 a tankful, no problem. FU52.

Posted by: NC Ref at April 04, 2012 05:19 PM (/izg2)

My rig has a 30 gallon tank. I get 10 - 12 mpg. I work 7 days a week and I have a 30 mile round trip commute to work.

I'm seriously considering buying a moped. Seriously.

I hear nice ones run about $500.

Posted by: ErikW at April 04, 2012 05:34 PM (0NZzw)

183 @167

Yes but by standing back and letting them destroy themselves they are going to take THE WHOLE FUCKING COUNTRY WITH THEM!!!

Posted by: McLovin at April 04, 2012 05:35 PM (j0IcY)

184 But Clarence said Barack's a free-market type!

Posted by: nickless at April 04, 2012 05:35 PM (MMC8r)

185 Unless the economy tanks again.

Did we become untanked at some point?

Posted by: toby928© at April 04, 2012 05:36 PM (GTbGH)

186 workers unite for free Gas and Oil!
WUABO.Local 732
workers unite against big oil

Posted by: willow at April 04, 2012 05:36 PM (TomZ9)

187 I hear nice ones run about $500.

Posted by: ErikW at April 04, 2012 05:34 PM (0NZzw)
---------------------------------

You may be able to get a used one on its last legs for that.

Posted by: Vic at April 04, 2012 05:36 PM (YdQQY)

188 The "Great I Am " has alienated Canada AND Mexico? How about going for a trifecta and annoying Saudi Arabia while he's at it.

This has got to be deliberate. He can't be that inept and stupid, can he? Well, can he?

Posted by: Minnie Rodent at April 04, 2012 05:37 PM (S3rrR)

189 166 Is that 31% number correct ?
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 04, 2012 05:31 PM (npr0X)

*********************

This is from the Vancouver Sun link left up thread by Habitually Pessimistic:

The so-called Canadian discount on crude oil jumped above $30 a barrel this month, thanks to a lack of pipeline capacity to the West Coast and a glut of oil supply at refineries in the U.S. Midwest.

That means a barrel of Western Canada heavy oil, including production from Alberta’s oilsands, is selling this month for about $75 compared to a world price of about $107 for heavy oil. Heavy oil, laden with sulphur, requires more processing than so-called light sweet crudes, which are fetching about $125 a barrel this week on world markets.

The numbers come from Scotiabank analyst Patricia Mohr’s monthly commodities index report, issued Tuesday.

Posted by: Justice Breyer at April 04, 2012 05:37 PM (r2PLg)

190 so will our only choice be to buy Petrobas ?

Posted by: willow at April 04, 2012 05:38 PM (TomZ9)

191 As an Albertan , I'm sorry this fuckup is ruining your country . The 30% increase in my standard of living is kind of nice tho .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 04, 2012 05:38 PM (npr0X)

192 'Green' technology = horse

Posted by: nickless at April 04, 2012 05:38 PM (MMC8r)

193 Pull my finger.

Posted by: the invisible hand at April 04, 2012 05:38 PM (GTbGH)

194 You may be able to get a used one on its last legs for that.

Will it keep running after you have to start putting E15 in it?

Posted by: Heorot at April 04, 2012 05:38 PM (Nq/UF)

195 I really want to know whats going on inside the Hillary dems heads. However, they saw through him before, in-spite of the media. What do they think and see now?

BTW Madmen I don't know how good of a preznit George Romney would have been but the long term trajectory difference in America of him instead of Nixon is potentially so massive its hard to get my head around.

Posted by: Shiggz RocketSurgeon at April 04, 2012 05:38 PM (RfvTE)

196 Fuck, this time of year you can get a realbike and just stop buying gas altogether.

Posted by: garrett at April 04, 2012 05:39 PM (JcLYI)

197 "i'm certain food will go up exponentially as well."
===============

I'm constantly horrified by what's been happening at the grocery store.

Remember how granola bars used to come 6 to a box? Well, now they come 5 to a box, for the same price.

Remember the big orange juice containers? Well, the price keeps going up, and the containers are now bottles, and the bottles are getting smaller and smaller.

Take a look at the potato chip bags, too. $4.50 for a bag, and the bag is half the size it was four years ago.

Grab a jar of peanut butter! Aside from the crazy price increase, turn it upside down and marvel at the huge indentation in the bottom that's making the volume smaller without being obvious about it.

Posted by: Kensington at April 04, 2012 05:39 PM (H84UO)

198 That is like a hat trick of bad policy decisions.
Posted by: ZBBMcFate at April 04, 2012 05:34 PM (Hj9yW)

******************

Finally a hockey reference.

Posted by: tasker at April 04, 2012 05:39 PM (r2PLg)

199 'Green' technology = horse

It's organic, so no need to work if horse shit gets in the drinking water supply.

Posted by: fluffy at April 04, 2012 05:41 PM (3SvjA)

200 Agents of the law
Luckless pedestrian
I know you're out there
With rage in your eyes and your megaphones
Saying all is forgiven
Mad Dog surrender
How can I answer
A man of my mind can do anything

I'm a bookkeeper's son
I don't want to shoot no one
Well I crossed my old man back in Oregon
Don't take me alive
Got a case of dynamite
I could hold out here all night
Yes I crossed my old man back in Oregon
Don't take me alive

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 04, 2012 05:41 PM (jucos)

201 Ah yes, the Karma brick.....produced in Europe with US loans. Now Fisker is threatening to take their ball and go home if we don't ladle out even more gravy.

Also, using numbers from above posts of 1.97 mbpd Canadian supplied crude to the US and $31 per barrel discount lost, that works out to ................

$21.5 billion per year

Or about 43 Solyndras per year.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 04, 2012 05:41 PM (ccXZP)

202
156AaaaaaaarrrrrRRRRRRGGGGGGH!!1!

It's happened. It's finally happened. I have Obama Derangement Syndrome.

I tried to vaccinate against it, but here it is.

I hate this man's guts from the bottom of my soul.

.

I hate the idiots who voted for this douche even more. But, I can and will get in their faces and get all hatredy in meatspace. And will continue to do so for as long as I live. I will never forget the hopeychangey cult, and will cerainly never forgive.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 04, 2012 05:41 PM (YbQJm)

203 certainly..

Posted by: model_1066 at April 04, 2012 05:41 PM (YbQJm)

204 Kensington, I know it's been difficult to keep decent food on the table.

i have stated i'm a little jealous standing behind someone with food stamp credit cards. we haven't eaten like that in a couple of years.

Posted by: willow at April 04, 2012 05:41 PM (TomZ9)

205 At my last fillup, it seemed all the drivers were just sitting in their vehicles while the pump was running. More usually, most are standing outside watching the numbers.

I think they were stunned and in shock and it was too painful to watch the numbers. Perhaps some used the seclusion for a quick cry.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 04, 2012 05:42 PM (4q5tP)

206 Going to bring a pack of post-its when I fill up.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at April 04, 2012 05:43 PM (X/+QT)

207 Yes but by standing back and letting them destroy themselves they are going to take THE WHOLE FUCKING COUNTRY WITH THEM!!!
Posted by: McLovin at April 04, 2012 05:35 PM (j0IcY)

-----------------------------------------

Like I've been saying. January 2013 is still a long time from now. The SCOAMT and his regime have all sorts of time to do as much damage as they can to us. And trust me, they will.

Posted by: Soona at April 04, 2012 05:43 PM (fKkxr)

208
Looks like extra gravy on Bill D. Cat's gravy from now on.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 04, 2012 05:43 PM (9043P)

209 >>>Or $70/per person per year,

A better way to say it is 60 cents more for every gallon of gas.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose now with dark clouds! at April 04, 2012 05:43 PM (0q2P7)

210 nwe post up

Posted by: willow at April 04, 2012 05:45 PM (TomZ9)

211 Preach it, Stephen!

(Never thought I`d see the day Canada had a more conservative leader than the USA.)

P.S. I`m eligible to apply for Canadian citizenship next year.

Posted by: logprof at April 04, 2012 05:45 PM (ykSKg)

212 >>>I think they were stunned and in shock and it was too painful to watch
the numbers. Perhaps some used the seclusion for a quick cry.

Stand to close to the gas pump and it will kick you in the balls for good measure.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose now with dark clouds! at April 04, 2012 05:46 PM (0q2P7)

213 You may be able to get a used one on its last legs for that.

Posted by: Vic at April 04, 2012 05:36 PM (YdQQY)

I'm so fucked.

Posted by: ErikW at April 04, 2012 05:46 PM (0NZzw)

214 209>>> Or $70/per person per year,

A better way to say it is 60 cents more for every gallon of gas.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose now with dark clouds! at April 04, 2012 05:43 PM (0q2P7) .I'm kinda hoping the OWS losers try to riot here in Denver....I will take out quite a bit of rage on their hides. With a pitching wedge, because I like irony.

Posted by: model_1066 at April 04, 2012 05:47 PM (YbQJm)

215 Looks like extra gravy on Bill D. Cat's gravy from now on.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 04, 2012 05:43 PM (9043P)

********

It's kinda like having poutine on your Putin.

Posted by: tasker at April 04, 2012 05:47 PM (r2PLg)

216 Gawd that was bad.

Posted by: tasker at April 04, 2012 05:48 PM (r2PLg)

217 @182 -I 'm seriously considering buying a moped. Seriously.

Whaddya bet that's exactly what they want you to do, and that's what's behind this assy Non-Energy policy? Time to do a major housecleaning in DC, boot out all the 800,000 Communist yuppies and the 600,000 neo-medievalists infesting our government, close down the EPA, ditto the Dept. of Energy and ...(suggestions ?)

Posted by: Minnie Rodent at April 04, 2012 05:50 PM (S3rrR)

218 206
Going to bring a pack of post-its when I fill up.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at April 04, 2012 05:43 PM (X/+QT)

Thanks for reminding me!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 04, 2012 05:51 PM (UOM48)

219 "Green" energy only becomes viable after the usual forms of energy become very, very expensive.

Translation: ALL energy will be expensive. It's not 'viable' it's suicide.

Posted by: joe dagostino at April 04, 2012 05:51 PM (hlZx/)

220 I go through 2-3 gallons a day commuting to work, so I fill up every single day. It just hurts less psychologically to get dinged $10-$12 every day rather than stomped in the balls by the higher amounts when I don't fill up every day.

That's one of my coping mechanisms.

Posted by: Kensington at April 04, 2012 05:51 PM (H84UO)

221 When this fucking clown came into office gas was $1.84 it's now $4.00 a gallon and we are not even in the peak fuel season it's conceivable we will be paying in excess of $6.00 dollars a gallon at some point.

It's going to get bad!

It's going to get real bad!

Posted by: McLovin at April 04, 2012 05:53 PM (j0IcY)

222 You`re about to get served, eh.

Posted by: Canada at April 04, 2012 05:54 PM (ykSKg)

223
The republicans don't seem to care very much either.

Why are we making such a big deal about this?

It only effects EVERY FUCKING THING!!!

Posted by: McLovin at April 04, 2012 05:07 PM (j0IcY)

That's not the way I roll.

Posted by: Willard Romney at April 04, 2012 05:54 PM (7+pP9)

224 Read the comments to that op-ed. I`d fucking love it if Harper fucked Baraka up the ass just before the elections with high gas prices. It would be a painful medicine for Americans, but worth it.

Posted by: logprof at April 04, 2012 05:56 PM (ykSKg)

225 When this fucking clown came into office gas was $1.84 it's now $4.00 a
gallon and we are not even in the peak fuel season it's conceivable we
will be paying in excess of $6.00 dollars a gallon at some point.

Prices will continue to rise until there's a risk of inflation.

Posted by: Teh Bernank at April 04, 2012 05:57 PM (Nq/UF)

226 The money flying around Calgary right now is unbelievable as it is right now . We have a provincial election going on at the moment that could well elect a truly right of center party . This and a thirty percent rise in what we're getting for our oil = bunk .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 04, 2012 05:58 PM (npr0X)

227 226
The money flying around Calgary right now is unbelievable as it is right
now . We have a provincial election going on at the moment that could
well elect a truly right of center party . This and a thirty percent
rise in what we're getting for our oil = bunk .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 04, 2012 05:58 PM (npr0X)

--If the tenure thing does not work out for me here and I can`t find something locally, Alberta may be the first place I target for a move. It may not be feasible if housing is too expensive, though. NB and NS are experiencing mini-booms and may be more affordable, plus the people there are really cool.

Posted by: logprof at April 04, 2012 06:02 PM (ykSKg)

228 -->You know we could just go and take, or liberate, if you will, the western half of Canada. You every think about that, Harper.

Isolate even your closest neighbor, that's part of the plan. ( see comment above )
or, create a crisis that won't go to waste, especially if Obama convinces people that it's Harper / Canada's fault. ( see comment above )
I realize comment above was said in jest, however, it will be the talking point of this administration/democrats, never- the- less.

Posted by: Carolyn at April 04, 2012 06:02 PM (u+WPA)

229 NB and NS are experiencing mini-booms and may be more affordable, plus the people there are really cool.

***********

Seriously NB is experiencing a boom?

wtf....

Potats? Hydro?

Hockey players?

Posted by: tasker at April 04, 2012 06:05 PM (r2PLg)

230 Which is actually very sad since in WWII, the Canadian troops were some of the baddest of all badasses.

Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD 2012 at April 04, 2012 05:02 PM (VtjlW)

--They`ve been pretty badass in Afghanistan.

Posted by: logprof at April 04, 2012 06:08 PM (ykSKg)

231 BTW, anyone know how to fix random fucked up formatting on a laptop I`m getting the wrong characters all over, for instance backward apostrophes (`) and instead of a question mark I get É

WTF

Posted by: logprof at April 04, 2012 06:09 PM (ykSKg)

232 logprof ,

Did the east coast trip as a young man . Nova Scotia is indeed a very cool province , beautiful as well . New Brunswick is a big fucking forest . Both are likely more affordable than Alberta though . I do like it here , moved here from Moronto in '89 and never looked back . Very different attitude from Canada in general , in a good way .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 04, 2012 06:10 PM (npr0X)

233 190 so will our only choice be to buy Petrobas ?
looking like that maybe was the plan all along

Posted by: eurw at April 04, 2012 06:12 PM (FKYKp)

234 Seriously NB is experiencing a boom?

wtf....

Potats? Hydro?

Hockey players?

Posted by: tasker at April 04, 2012 06:05 PM (r2PLg)

--Irving recently built a large LNG port in Saint John. It generally has a business-friendly government, which is sensible since it is otherwise not rich in resources --yet. (There`s supposed to be a shitload of shale oil or gas underneath.)

Posted by: logprof at April 04, 2012 06:15 PM (ykSKg)

235 Did the east coast trip as a young man . Nova Scotia
is indeed a very cool province , beautiful as well . New Brunswick is a
big fucking forest . Both are likely more affordable than Alberta
though . I do like it here , moved here from Moronto in '89 and never
looked back . Very different attitude from Canada in general , in a good
way .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 04, 2012 06:10 PM (npr0X)

--If nothing else, if I moved there it would be the first time I lived near mountains.

Posted by: logprof at April 04, 2012 06:16 PM (ykSKg)

236 So the US/Canada oil relationshipwas a monopsony? Wonder what my old econ textbooks had to say about that....

We need to go colonize Nova Scotia and rename it Moronopia.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 04, 2012 06:17 PM (Ec6wH)

237 I lost the briefing on this when I was clearing off my desk for Uhura...

Oh well...

Posted by: Baraka Obama at April 04, 2012 06:17 PM (V40IZ)

238 Let's see. Obama whispering sweet nothings to the Russians.
Canada has the Communist Russians on our Northern border. The Communist Chinese are on the closest coast to our left.
If Obama wins in November we're going to have the Communist Americans to our south.
Maybe Canada will be the free market island of the world.
I guess you could attack Canada. Remember our Commonwealth allies, England, India, Australia etc.
The Communist's of the world could unite behind their new convert...the USA

Posted by: Doowleb at April 04, 2012 06:19 PM (E/gJE)

239 You know, there are days when I think that, while Obama is off campaigning or golfing, the Oval Office gets infiltrated by "Mayhem" from the Allstate commercials...

Posted by: reason at April 04, 2012 06:20 PM (V40IZ)

240 "backward apostrophes (`) and instead of a question mark I get É"

Sounds like your keyboard setup has the French setting...set
Change it back to American English

Damn Quebec

Posted by: Doowleb at April 04, 2012 06:33 PM (E/gJE)

241 Barky laughed with Sarkozy about how he has to deal with the damn Canadians every day. And then Barky joked, condescendingly, about the "funny pseudo-Austrian they speak in Vancouver".

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at April 04, 2012 06:33 PM (X3lox)

242 @231 - If it's an HP laptop, you've triggered the French layout. Ctrl+Shift should get you out. If that fails, check your keyboard language settings. I do it all the time, it's enough to make me want to nuke Quebec.

Posted by: db at April 04, 2012 06:34 PM (AWESD)

243 Prosperity is decadent western concept, comrade. Workers find happiness toiling for the good of the state.

Posted by: Hydrocarbon Liberation Front at April 04, 2012 06:37 PM (NVu2l)

244 I do it all the time, it's enough to make me want to nuke Quebec.

I get that urge at least once daily . It usually starts when I open my eyes first thing in the morning .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 04, 2012 06:38 PM (npr0X)

245 --Irving recently built a large LNG port in Saint John. It generally has a business-friendly government, which is sensible since it is otherwise not rich in resources --yet. (There`s supposed to be a shitload of shale oil or gas underneath.)
Posted by: logprof at April 04, 2012 06:15 PM (ykSKg)

******************

(There`s supposed to be a shitload of shale oil or gas underneath.)

Wow, how fortunes turn.

Thanks for the info.

Posted by: tasker at April 04, 2012 06:38 PM (r2PLg)

246 Q: Why does the first Wookie get on top when she and Teh Won have sex?
A: Because Teh Won can only fu*k up!

Posted by: Happy Fun Ball at April 04, 2012 06:40 PM (4P4ww)

247 So what's this about Ladies Tees?

Posted by: SarMan at April 04, 2012 06:45 PM (lU19H)

248 He truly is a semi-divine being. He has achieved something no other man could have achieved. He has made the oh-so-liberal Canadians mad at a liberal U.S. President. That takes something special.

Posted by: Trimegistus at April 04, 2012 06:48 PM (w4QuJ)

249 209 If we import ~ 50% of oil, ~70% from Canada, and the loss of the discount raises the cost of that oil by ~ 30%, then at $4/gallon, that would equal about an extra 35 cents per gallon, rather than 60 cents (by my calculation and based on about 15 minutes of wasting time research on the internet). But as to your larger point, yeah, I think that is a more effective way to frame it.

Posted by: ZBBMcFate at April 04, 2012 06:50 PM (Hj9yW)

250
Do you wanna know what the saddest thing about this is?

Mitt is still going to lose to this POS in November.

Posted by: RayJ at April 04, 2012 06:57 PM (pI/IV)

251 So Canada's PM Harper is making decisions that are in Canada's best interest? That's a concept that is beyond the comprehension of our SCOAMF.

Posted by: Marmo at April 04, 2012 07:02 PM (pcgW1)

252 Obama don't need no cheap oil. He has funded Tesla Motors and SpaceX for at least half a billion so far. So we will all get a Tesla Roadster, or be shot into space if gasoline gets too expensive.

Posted by: PJ at April 04, 2012 07:10 PM (DQHjw)

253 246
Q: Why does the first Wookie get on top when she and Teh Won have sex?

A: Because Teh Won can only fu*k up!

Posted by: Happy Fun Ball at April 04, 2012 06:40 PM (4P4ww)

Posted by: Baraka at April 04, 2012 07:15 PM (ykSKg)

254 Of course Mexico doesn't like Obama. It's full of white people, afterall.

Posted by: Warden at April 04, 2012 07:16 PM (Oyv9v)

255 "$100 a tankful, no problem. FU52.

Posted by: NC Ref"

*Checks Bizzaro World Periodic Table*

FU52 - Fucktardium. The densest substance in the known universe. So dense, it causes a phenomenon known as "Black Hole Stupid", which has an Event Horizon of Ignorance so powerful that not even the tiniest particle of intelligence can penetrate it.

Posted by: FORGER - Monster Hunter at April 04, 2012 07:26 PM (HYbYx)

256 /SCOAMF sock

Posted by: logprof at April 04, 2012 07:26 PM (ykSKg)

257 At some point, in life and in politics, the cumulative effect of bad decisions based on false premises culminates in crisis. For a good example of this, read Barbara Tuchmann's book, 'The Guns of August', which describes the events leading up to WWI. For a more recent example, follow the decision/action lines radiating outward from the White House during the Obama Administration. One thing leads to another leads to another, and at some point, all lines converge. Exact outcome is uncertain given the millions of variables in play, but there is something very bad coming our way.

If President Obama wins reelection, we're truly screwed.

Posted by: troyriser at April 04, 2012 07:34 PM (YCeSE)

258 The Globe and Mail, Canada's "national paper", is now running a story about how cool of a Trekkie Obamao is.

http://tinyurl.com/ctm6utq

Comments are open, morons! :-)

Posted by: Axlectian at April 04, 2012 07:53 PM (mQkZQ)

259 242
@231 - If it's an HP laptop, you've triggered the French layout.
Ctrl+Shift should get you out. If that fails, check your keyboard
language settings. I do it all the time, it's enough to make me want to
nuke Quebec.

Posted by: db at April 04, 2012 06:34 PM (AWESD)

--It worked. (Apparently you're supposed to hold down SHIFT first then hit CTRL.) Thanks!

Posted by: logprof at April 04, 2012 07:56 PM (ykSKg)

260 258
The Globe and Mail, Canada's "national paper", is now running a story about how cool of a Trekkie Obamao is.

http://tinyurl.com/ctm6utq

Comments are open, morons! :-)

Posted by: Axlectian at April 04, 2012 07:53 PM (mQkZQ)

--I like a lot of the Globe and Mail, but their coverage of American politics is ridiculously leftarded.

Posted by: logprof at April 04, 2012 08:01 PM (ykSKg)

261 258
The Globe and Mail, Canada's "national paper", is now running a story about how cool of a Trekkie Obamao is.

http://tinyurl.com/ctm6utq

Comments are open, morons! :-)

Posted by: Axlectian at April 04, 2012 07:53 PM (mQkZQ)

--I made a comment about Me'Chelle. I wonder how long it will stand. I'm hoping for a -20+ rating from the Globots.

Posted by: logprof at April 04, 2012 08:06 PM (ykSKg)

262
I closed my business June 1, 2011. I, too, could not go any longer without a paycheck. I lost everything at age 55. I've started over and found a good job working B2B. Small businesses that I work with are in serious trouble these days and many are going to lose their businesses and have to declare bankruptcy as prices go up this summer. And we live in a state with 7.5% unemployment. It will spike over the next couple of months as the reduced tourist trade and less disposable income effect everyone. I am sick to death listening to even Shep declare the wonderful economic recovery.
No body sees it, no one is experiencing a recovery. At first people thought they, themselves, crazy or were doing something wrong because it is getting tougher and tougher to make it through a month. Now, they realize the Press and Politicians are lying and boy are they pissed.
The Neighbors next door and across the street have all of their kids back at home. Thenext door neighbor's kids are lazy and the one's across the street are definately not but they are all in a jam.I feel like the Queen ofGloom, but, really I'm not. It's just that our reality is changing andnobody talks of the same things they did just4 years ago. Now we talk about putting in gardens and how much wood to stockpile and specials on grocery. I feel robbed by the thug politicians and am convinced that if Obama wins in Nov. we are completely, thoroughly, screwed as America.

Posted by: DailyDish at April 04, 2012 08:10 PM (dPS+Y)

263 --I like a lot of the Globe and Mail, but their coverage of American politics is ridiculously leftarded.

Almost , not quite as pathetically leftarded as their coverage of Canadian politics .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 04, 2012 08:12 PM (npr0X)

264 263
--I like a lot of the Globe and Mail, but their coverage of American politics is ridiculously leftarded.

Almost , not quite as pathetically leftarded as their coverage of Canadian politics .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 04, 2012 08:12 PM (npr0X)

--Yeah, I noticed in the "related stories" one about how the XL pipeline delay is good for Canada.

Posted by: logprof at April 04, 2012 08:15 PM (ykSKg)

265
"He has made the oh-so-liberal Canadians mad at a liberal U.S. President. That takes something special."
But remember, Harper is a Conservative Canadian - and he's from the West. Those are the most pro-American Canadians in existence, and if you've lost them, then there's no hope.
I think people like Obama really don't take Canadians seriously because when we get mad we don't turn out in big, unwashed, toothless crowds and scream and dance as we burn American flags. Maybe if we did, he'd come grovelling and sniffing our butts like he does for Third World illiterates. We're quiet, but believe me, this Keystone debacle has really made a badimpression. The iron has entered our soul, and now I think a lot of Canadians don't even WANT to see it revived. I get the impression that Obama thinks that Canada is just aplain littlewallflower at the school sockhop, and we'll still be standing there waiting wistfully until the Big Man On Campus finally turns his lordly attention to us in a year or two or three. Harper sounds like he's going to move FAST on finding us other buyers, and by the time the US comes to its senses, the supply is going to be all spoken for.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at April 04, 2012 08:29 PM (KOHFD)

266 But Bush is stooooopid!!!eleventy!!11!

Posted by: MFM at April 04, 2012 08:40 PM (6kE8K)

267
Obooboo likes communist and muslim nations.
Obooboo hates democracies and allies.
Is that too hard to understand ?

Posted by: seamrog at April 04, 2012 08:43 PM (VP5xD)

268 Obooboo likes communist and muslim nations.
Obooboo hates democracies and allies.
Is that too hard to understand ?

Posted by: seamrog at April 04, 2012 08:43 PM (VP5xD)

--It's amazing that the worst thing a country can be to Baraka is an ally. Even an ally most of whose populace would happily wash his balls.

Posted by: logprof at April 04, 2012 08:47 PM (ykSKg)

269

We can thank Stephen Harper for Obama's loss in November.

I would give him a rainbow.

Posted by: Conservatives watching our back at April 04, 2012 09:00 PM (HOOye)

270 Do you ever go through the comments at the Globe logprof ? .... makes me glad I moved 2,000 miles from Moronto .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 04, 2012 09:00 PM (npr0X)

271 270
Do you ever go through the comments at the Globe logprof ? .... makes me glad I moved 2,000 miles from Moronto .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 04, 2012 09:00 PM (npr0X)

--Oh yeah, loaded with stupid. There was an inflammatory headline that pushback to the HHR Pill Mandate was an "Attack" on women. I commented, asking rhetorically but matter-of-factly, that if I refuse to comp the reporter for lunch am I "attacking" him yet still got a heavy negative rating.

Posted by: logprof at April 04, 2012 09:06 PM (ykSKg)

272 Okay, Trekkie question: What is a Denebian Slime Devil?

Posted by: logprof at April 04, 2012 09:06 PM (ykSKg)

273 Sadly , they only let me comment there for a half hour or so .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 04, 2012 09:09 PM (npr0X)

274 What I wanna know is whether or not Canada punches above its weight.

Posted by: northernlurker at April 04, 2012 09:15 PM (J0qsH)

275 Posted by: DailyDish at April 04, 2012 08:10 PM (dPS+Y)

We're seeing the same things here, in my home state of Indiana. All of this is anecdotal, of course, but we--my girlfriend and me--and all of our friends and all of our friends' friends--everyone we know--are experiencing the same things you describe: more struggle to make ends meet, more hardships piling on, no perceptible change for the better while the media crows about recovery and improving conditions. There is a large, easily perceived gap between what we're being told and what we're experiencing first-hand. It's at once infuriating and exasperating. Who are they kidding, anyway?

We're the animals in Orwell's 'Animal Farm': the pigs keep telling us how much better things are as things get steadily worse. Maybe, just maybe they're doing it because the Left truly believes reality is shaped by perceptions, and if they say there's no more Great Recession, then there's no more Great Recession.

Believe long enough and strong enough, and Tinkerbell lives.

Posted by: troyriser at April 04, 2012 09:46 PM (YCeSE)

276
268- Ally means friend or supporter, more or less.
Is there any record of King Putt having any old friends or compatriots outside of politics, beside his ass-kissers?
He was not brought up in the world we live in, and will never understand it. Who doesn't have old girlfriends or for that matter classmates that have come forward to tell a story of the old days?
He stinks to high heaven, and no one will call him on it.

Posted by: seamrog at April 04, 2012 09:47 PM (VP5xD)

277
NAFTA
Afraid
To
Fuck
Allies

Posted by: seamrog at April 04, 2012 09:50 PM (VP5xD)

278
Dyslexia
NAFTA
------------
Not
Afraid
Fuc*ing
These
Allies

Posted by: seamrog at April 04, 2012 09:57 PM (VP5xD)

279 I love all the comments here about "we'll invade Canada, then!"

*yawn*

Wake us up when you manage to take America back, first...

Posted by: Canadians at April 04, 2012 11:54 PM (xhEok)

280 As a Canadian, I was OK with selling our oil to our great friends and allies at a discount, we have derived a lot of benefit from our relationship and I don't mind if you derive benefit also. However, our much ridiculed Canadian sense of niceness only goes so far, if you spit in my eye I am totally willing to kick you in the balls.

Have a nice day eh.

Posted by: Enkidu at April 05, 2012 01:28 AM (Wcbt8)

281
Canada is a vast charity, eh? I don't think so. They're selling the oil cheap because they have no choice. Who else are they going to sell it to? Their other neighbor, . . . wait, they have no other neighbors. And China? How are they going to get the oil over the Rockies? No, it's much easier to ship it south to the refineries in LA or load it on supertankers. Harper is making empty threats.

Posted by: bjk at April 05, 2012 03:08 AM (Gq2j1)

282 @ 48. "It's like our president is stupid or something."
Posted by: Dr. Spank

Bwahahahaha.................................................! Man, that comment hit my funny bone. Wonder how many times that sentance has run across Mr. and Ms. common American's mind lately?

Posted by: Case at April 05, 2012 06:13 AM (6ffrc)

283 281 - Gee, maybe they'll just end up giving it to the U.S. for free then, huh? Oh, wait, your brilliant president won't even allow that, since he's blocked construction of the pipeline that would move it into your country. How would Canadians move oil across the Rockies? That's a puzzler, alright. You'd actually have to BUILD a pipeline through those mountains, and everyone knows that utterly impossible, even though Canadians built a railway through them 140 years ago. And Harper must be quite a bluffer if he's managed to interest the Chinese in such an obviously laughable project; guess they never learned how to read maps in Beijing, eh?

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at April 05, 2012 06:50 AM (KOHFD)

284
"Gee, maybe they'll just end up giving it to the U.S. for free then, huh? Oh, wait, your brilliant president won't even allow that, since he's blocked construction of the pipeline that would move it into your country."
It's already flowing into this country, every day, to Midwest refineries. XL is supposed to move it down to refineries in TX and LA. There is no chance of ever building a pipeline to China. Not gonna happen. Obama can block it, but if it is blocked, it will be diverted to other locations in the US, not China.

Posted by: bjk at April 05, 2012 09:41 AM (Gq2j1)

285 You're an idiot. The kind who thinks "I don't have to do anything, the world will just go on dropping lollipops into my mouth because they have no choice. America can be a stupid as it wants, it doesn't matter because we'll always be on top. It's just fate." And I notice you didn't answer my observation about the Chinese; if this is all such a ridiculous pipedream, why are they even talking to the Canadians about it? Building a pipeline to the west might be impossible for an America that can't even erect an office building at Ground Zero in 11 years, but it's the sort of project that gets Canadians excited. We've done things people say are impossible before.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at April 05, 2012 09:56 AM (KOHFD)

286
Hmm. Lots of bitter American asshole comments in this thread.
I realise that your country is caught in a whirlpool of relentless suckage, but try not to alienate one of the few friends that you have left in the world. Otherwise karma may grant you another four years of torment from Obama, and possibly eight years of Hilary after that...

Posted by: Wayward at April 05, 2012 10:39 AM (eWnkk)

287 The United States does not take orders...it gives them!

Posted by: General Zod at April 05, 2012 11:04 AM (2+bRt)

288 @Antisocialist - Its Stuttering Misinformed Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure - FIFU

Posted by: fred zeppelin at April 05, 2012 01:12 PM (zL/eJ)

289 All Americans who cannot deal with another term of Obama (you know he will win, media+minorities=elected) You are cordially welcomed to move to the booming economy of Western Canada. Our provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan are doing so well (unemployment less that 5%) we are actively looking for immigrants from ALL nations. Your American heritage will not be held against you, here in Western Canada we love Americans.
We would love to show you how to escape from socialism. It was a national struggle, liberals fight hard and dirty, but it can be done.

However, Obama voters need not apply.

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