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Apocalypse: Deal Only Cuts $352 Million In Actual Spending
As I noted: The Democrats offered Boehner a crooked "deal" wherein they'd offer some smoke and mirrors only-in-accounting-world "cuts" and all Boehner had to do was say yes and the Democrats would play along and pretend they'd been beaten.
First Boehner announced he would not go along with such a deceit. And then he did, with the Democrats and their allies in the media playing "the Republicans won" narrative, per the agreement, until the Democrats could contain their quiet victory no longer and began announcing it. So there you go. We started this process, we thought, with $101 billion in cuts, which we only found out after the election was a promise to cut $61 billion. Then Hal Rodgers -- who must resign -- had an opening bid of around $30 billion, which the Tea Party got angry about and forced him to push a supposed $61 billion cut, but the hand was tipped, it was clear we were not only not holding out for $61 billion, but if we had our druthers, we wouldn't even start there, nevermind end there. Then some Tea Party people and the Republican Study Group pushed to get it back up to $100 billion, but leadership, including Eric Cantor, voted that down, and some in our very own party used Democratic language in defending their precious spending, saying the cutters wanted to take a "meat axe" to the budget and hurt people who depend on government. Then we started cutting every week, which turns out now to have been a scam, because we weren't cutting spending, we were cutting future spending authority which wasn't likely to be spent anyway. In essence, when I thought we were making progress, we were actually just giving the Democrats their way by funding government at the same level as usual. Then we finally agreed on $38.5 billion. Later inspection checked more closely, and determined that most of that wasn't really cuts at all, but accounting gimmicks, fake cuts, and that the real amount of cuts was around $14 billion. Then someone noticed -- actually, it's closer to $8 billion. And now the CBO looks at it. $352 million, with an m, in cuts. What the government spends in... oh, it's like $6 billion a day, so $352 million is what the government spends in about an hour and twenty minutes. That's what we fought for in November--so that we could cut the 365 days of spending of 2010 into 354 days, twenty two hours, and forty minutes worth of spending. Hal Rodgers has to go. Has to go. The party has to demand he resign from his post. There have to be consequences. Someone has to pay. The rest have to know they're next. We can't hang them all, but we can hang one of them. To encourage the others. Biggest spending cut in history, huh? GOP Leadership Lobbying for Votes: At Hot Air. F*** it all. Shut it down. Burn it down. The hell with it all. 2012? Who cares?Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: blindside at April 13, 2011 06:49 PM (x7g7t)
Posted by: Y-not at April 13, 2011 06:49 PM (pW2o8)
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I got dibs on the torch and pitchfork concession.
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at April 13, 2011 06:50 PM (6IReR)
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Over the cliff we go. Wheeeeeee!
Posted by: iowahawk at April 13, 2011 06:51 PM (veL4N)
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Now hold on. This doesn't necessarily mean that Boehner is too stupid to dress himself....
It could also mean that he's corrupt.
It could also mean that he's corrupt.
Posted by: Kasper Hauser at April 13, 2011 06:51 PM (v0pFT)
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Dibs on tar concession
Posted by: Count de Monet at April 13, 2011 06:52 PM (XBM1t)
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Someone should have told the congress you never go full retard.
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at April 13, 2011 06:52 PM (6IReR)
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If you like your old Washington business as usual, you may keep your old Washington business as usual.
Posted by: Baricolas Ruric at April 13, 2011 06:53 PM (E3JkM)
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So, who do we yell at in the GOP?
Posted by: joeindc44 at April 13, 2011 06:53 PM (QxSug)
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I need to take a news break before I fucking lose my mind.
Posted by: Geronimo at April 13, 2011 06:53 PM (KVI8B)
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 13, 2011 06:53 PM (4ZxEW)
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On the plus side, max out your credit cards, the Yellowstone caldera is even bigger than previously thought!
Posted by: Waterhouse at April 13, 2011 06:53 PM (7RwMf)
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Lemming #1:"Hey were are we going in such a hurry?"
Lemming #2: " I don't know but noone seems to be worried and everyone is having some fun so lets just go along."
Lemming #2: " I don't know but noone seems to be worried and everyone is having some fun so lets just go along."
Posted by: TheGarbone at April 13, 2011 06:54 PM (KUjSN)
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It's a trillion foot cliff but we're only going over it for 3.52 feet
Posted by: fargin iceholes at April 13, 2011 06:54 PM (jn8Kq)
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Yep, everybody should let their congresscritter know that the next few votes are damn important to their political lives, any yes votes on raising the debt ceiling need to go as well.
Posted by: Red Shirt at April 13, 2011 06:55 PM (FIDMq)
Posted by: fluffy at April 13, 2011 06:55 PM (SwkdU)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 13, 2011 06:55 PM (g73jP)
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You guys don't realize what a big fuckin deal this is. We're getting the country back on track, trimming the fat, and we will win the zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Posted by: Snoozefest Biden at April 13, 2011 06:55 PM (aa83J)
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We are officially USDA Grade AAA top-sirloin-fucked.
I had the naive belief that the only way to stop these cocksuckers is a national taxpayer strike. Now I am convinced even that wouldn't stop them; they are completely unmoored from corporeal reality, and nothing - absolutely nothing - will stop them from spending.
I had the naive belief that the only way to stop these cocksuckers is a national taxpayer strike. Now I am convinced even that wouldn't stop them; they are completely unmoored from corporeal reality, and nothing - absolutely nothing - will stop them from spending.
Posted by: iowahawk at April 13, 2011 06:55 PM (veL4N)
Posted by: the chicken at April 13, 2011 06:55 PM (pW2o8)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 13, 2011 06:56 PM (g73jP)
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Yup. I'm definitely done voting. The political class cares nothing for us, no matter what letter they have after their name.
Posted by: Rod Rescueman at April 13, 2011 06:56 PM (HwE/1)
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at April 13, 2011 06:56 PM (6IReR)
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2012? Who cares?
Change!
Change!
Posted by: The Mayans at April 13, 2011 06:56 PM (sOtz/)
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The was this French guy that warned us about this vote buying business.
Posted by: sTevo at April 13, 2011 06:56 PM (VMcEw)
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Heads need to role. Primary challenges need to pop up. And Mitt Romney needs to be mad.
Posted by: ParisParamus at April 13, 2011 06:57 PM (bgSjf)
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I spent all day buying futures in tar, feathers and rope. I am looking forward to usingthe items I invested inreal soon. Of course, I will have to pay taxes on the short terms gains, but it will be worth it. The only check I wrote to the IRS with a smile on my face.
We got butt fucked by our own party, and they sprinkled sand on the cock that was ramming us. Thanks Boner and Cantor.
We are so screwed.
We got butt fucked by our own party, and they sprinkled sand on the cock that was ramming us. Thanks Boner and Cantor.
We are so screwed.
Posted by: Andrew at April 13, 2011 06:57 PM (QddTs)
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I'll bite - who is Hal Rodgers?
Posted by: Chuckit at April 13, 2011 06:57 PM (G+sxF)
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And this dream I'm in is becoming predictable.
Tomorrow we'll learn that the deal, in fact, raises spending at least $5B.
Just watch.
And this dream I'm in is becoming predictable.
Tomorrow we'll learn that the deal, in fact, raises spending at least $5B.
Just watch.
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 13, 2011 06:57 PM (g73jP)
Posted by: Count de Monet at April 13, 2011 06:57 PM (XBM1t)
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Even if we win in 2012, the new president will have this shit sammich on his hands. And he won't be able to do dick about it at the rate we're going. Gotta go with the prevailing opinion: shut it down and keep it down for as long as possible.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 13, 2011 06:58 PM (zgZzy)
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they are completely unmoored from corporeal reality, and nothing - absolutely nothing - will stop them from spending.
Posted by: iowahawk at April 13, 2011 06:55 PM (veL4N)
Who you gonna call?
Posted by: iowahawk at April 13, 2011 06:55 PM (veL4N)
Who you gonna call?
Posted by: Ghostbusters at April 13, 2011 06:58 PM (sOtz/)
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Only in a dream would a political party with momentum and the "right side" of an issue give away the store for three magic beans.
Only in a dream would a political party with momentum and the "right side" of an issue give away the store for three magic beans.
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 13, 2011 06:58 PM (g73jP)
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Drink!
Posted by: ErikW at April 13, 2011 06:58 PM (OgDRw)
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This sounds like the Seppuku Gambit of 15-dimensional chess.
Posted by: Waterhouse at April 13, 2011 06:58 PM (7RwMf)
Posted by: jwpaine at April 13, 2011 06:58 PM (FUozQ)
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So it is clear now right? Our votes don't matter at the national level.
Posted by: lauren at April 13, 2011 06:59 PM (KRkoe)
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Hal Rodgers has to go
Along with pretty much ENTIRE republican "leadership" in both fucking houses. Kiss our asses already.Go back to being a part time job, which is a SACRIFICE you make to server your COUNTRY not your lust for power. Congress is like Oracle. You fucking service it, it doesn't service you.
Along with pretty much ENTIRE republican "leadership" in both fucking houses. Kiss our asses already.Go back to being a part time job, which is a SACRIFICE you make to server your COUNTRY not your lust for power. Congress is like Oracle. You fucking service it, it doesn't service you.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 13, 2011 06:59 PM (cniXs)
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You know how much debt the USA racked up this afternoon? About a billion dollars. So Boehner's big coup amounts to the amount of money we pissed away between 2:00 and 4:30 this afternoon. Bra-VO!
My DOOM train still has plenty of room for new passengers. Join my cult, kids. Get a free WE ARE SO BONED t-shirt! When I ask you to hold the FBI at bay at my mountain compound while I escape with all of your money, you'll understand that it's only a kind of tough love.
My DOOM train still has plenty of room for new passengers. Join my cult, kids. Get a free WE ARE SO BONED t-shirt! When I ask you to hold the FBI at bay at my mountain compound while I escape with all of your money, you'll understand that it's only a kind of tough love.
Posted by: Monty at April 13, 2011 06:59 PM (FC+dS)
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Only in a dream would a political party with momentum and the "right side" of an issue give away the store for three magic beans.
And only in a dream would said party get blamed as irrational extremists by the media. Can red states just secede?
And only in a dream would said party get blamed as irrational extremists by the media. Can red states just secede?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 13, 2011 06:59 PM (zgZzy)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 13, 2011 06:59 PM (UQjUb)
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Only in a dream would a political party with momentum and the "right
side" of an issue give away the store for three magic beans.
We're all on Chantix now.
side" of an issue give away the store for three magic beans.
We're all on Chantix now.
Posted by: Waterhouse at April 13, 2011 07:00 PM (7RwMf)
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Now I am convinced even that wouldn't stop them; they are completely unmoored from corporeal reality, and nothing - absolutely nothing - will stop them from spending.
End the Fed .
End the Fed .
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 13, 2011 07:00 PM (npr0X)
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37 So it is clear now right? Our votes don't matter at the national level.
Lauren, our votes don't really matter on the state and local levels, either.
Lauren, our votes don't really matter on the state and local levels, either.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 13, 2011 07:00 PM (zgZzy)
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"Is six feet of rope too inflammatory?"
Soak it in lighter fluid first. Nice neck burns to go with the hanging!
Soak it in lighter fluid first. Nice neck burns to go with the hanging!
Posted by: Andrew at April 13, 2011 07:00 PM (QddTs)
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F*** it all. Shut it down. Burn it down. The hell with it all.
2012? Who cares?
That's the spirit. Like I said earlier: If the worthless fucks in the GOP cared one damn bit about controlling the size and growth of government, they would have ended mandatory withholding yesterday.
That's the only way to bring this whole fucking scam to a screeching halt--when the taxpayers realize just how much damn money they are taking and then bribing you into compliance through a paltry-ass "refund" once a year, they'll scream bloody murder and run the worthless assholes out of town.
Who fucking cares indeed? It's not like one of those bastards do--they got theirs and fuck you for daring to question them.
F*** it all. Shut it down. Burn it down. The hell with it all.
2012? Who cares?
That's the spirit. Like I said earlier: If the worthless fucks in the GOP cared one damn bit about controlling the size and growth of government, they would have ended mandatory withholding yesterday.
That's the only way to bring this whole fucking scam to a screeching halt--when the taxpayers realize just how much damn money they are taking and then bribing you into compliance through a paltry-ass "refund" once a year, they'll scream bloody murder and run the worthless assholes out of town.
Who fucking cares indeed? It's not like one of those bastards do--they got theirs and fuck you for daring to question them.
Posted by: jimmuy at April 13, 2011 07:00 PM (LkNeJ)
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the new president will have this shit sammich on his hands.
At least he (or she) will be able to blame all this shit on Barrack Hussein Obama
At least he (or she) will be able to blame all this shit on Barrack Hussein Obama
Posted by: sTevo at April 13, 2011 07:00 PM (VMcEw)
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I'll bite - who is Hal Rodgers?
Don't address me in that tone. I chair the appropriations committee.
Now go fetch me a bucket of KFC.
Don't address me in that tone. I chair the appropriations committee.
Now go fetch me a bucket of KFC.
Posted by: Hal fuckin' Rodgers!! at April 13, 2011 07:00 PM (SwkdU)
Posted by: Onlooker at April 13, 2011 07:00 PM (9f7qj)
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Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Now we can see why PP, NPR, OCare and the EPA all came out unscathed. There were no cuts. There will be no cuts. They will keep blowing smoke up our asses until we all look like chimneys.
Now we can see why PP, NPR, OCare and the EPA all came out unscathed. There were no cuts. There will be no cuts. They will keep blowing smoke up our asses until we all look like chimneys.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 13, 2011 07:01 PM (ENKCw)
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Is that a high-speed DOOM train Monty?
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 13, 2011 07:01 PM (4ZxEW)
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7 Someone should have told the congress you never go full retard.
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht
No, we're going full retard.
7 Someone should have told the congress you never go full retard.
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht
No, we're going full retard.
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 13, 2011 07:01 PM (zpByr)
Posted by: Monty at April 13, 2011 07:01 PM (FC+dS)
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"Political theatre" we've heard that phrase a lot since November, and today this is pretty apt. This looks like a case of Hamlet in DC where we, all of us, are Hamlet... I leave it to everyone else to fill out the remaining cast.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at April 13, 2011 07:02 PM (9eDbm)
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I should probably update my passport.
Posted by: Tami at April 13, 2011 07:02 PM (VuLos)
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2012? Who cares?
we all do, Ace, including you. we're all fighting the best way we know how, or can. do.not.give.up.
we all do, Ace, including you. we're all fighting the best way we know how, or can. do.not.give.up.
Posted by: pitchforksandpowder at April 13, 2011 07:02 PM (GStPL)
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WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO STOP FUCKING US
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at April 13, 2011 07:02 PM (pdRb1)
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Let's all uproot and move to Texas! Build a wall and let the rest of the country go all Road Warrior.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 13, 2011 07:03 PM (zgZzy)
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> 23
Is six feet of rope too inflammatory?
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht
My special Napalm/Thermite "skin salve" isn't too inflammatory in these circumstances!
> 23
Is six feet of rope too inflammatory?
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht
My special Napalm/Thermite "skin salve" isn't too inflammatory in these circumstances!
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at April 13, 2011 07:03 PM (zpByr)
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French peasnants were at starvation levels for 14 years before somebody decided to storm the Bastille.
May as well pack it up, start storing food and ammo. We are not going to change anything simply by voting Republican.
May as well pack it up, start storing food and ammo. We are not going to change anything simply by voting Republican.
Posted by: USS Diversity at April 13, 2011 07:03 PM (gJNMj)
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Ace man, it looks like in your anger you forgot how to spell. I think you meant to say:
FUCK.IT.ALL.
I live in Cantor's district and the fucker has got to go. I swear I think when you get elected and go up there for your freshman indoctrination they give you a pill, red for R-Marxist and blue for D-Marxist but the point is, you get a pill that reprograms you into some Marxist beltway fucker.
It has to come down so we can build it back. The past week has been kabuki by both sides. Boner and Cantywaste cannot be this stoopid. It's just impossible.
FUCK.IT.ALL.
I live in Cantor's district and the fucker has got to go. I swear I think when you get elected and go up there for your freshman indoctrination they give you a pill, red for R-Marxist and blue for D-Marxist but the point is, you get a pill that reprograms you into some Marxist beltway fucker.
It has to come down so we can build it back. The past week has been kabuki by both sides. Boner and Cantywaste cannot be this stoopid. It's just impossible.
Posted by: theadmiral at April 13, 2011 07:03 PM (lUdKU)
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Said it before, gonna say it again.
The answer will be the Federal Reserve printing presses. Embrace the fiat money. It's coming. It's right behind you.
The Fed is already the primary buyer of Treasuries.
The answer will be the Federal Reserve printing presses. Embrace the fiat money. It's coming. It's right behind you.
The Fed is already the primary buyer of Treasuries.
Posted by: George Orwell at April 13, 2011 07:03 PM (+vkOU)
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This is... remarkably uncivil rhetoric.
Posted by: Randy at April 13, 2011 07:03 PM (D0PNd)
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Alternate headline: Palin was right and way out in front of the issue...again.
Do not lose hope ace. There are glimmers of hope out there like the Prosser win in a state Obama won with the left throwing all they had at it.
Gear up for a last stand in 2012.
Do not lose hope ace. There are glimmers of hope out there like the Prosser win in a state Obama won with the left throwing all they had at it.
Gear up for a last stand in 2012.
Posted by: Dan at April 13, 2011 07:03 PM (mXBxH)
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Biggest spending cut in history.
Nudge, nudge, wink, wink
Nudge, nudge, wink, wink
Posted by: Monty Python's Flying Congress at April 13, 2011 07:04 PM (wAQA5)
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Oh, and thanks, Nevada and California for Harry Reid and Barbara Boxer's re-election. A-holes.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 13, 2011 07:04 PM (zgZzy)
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28
I'll bite - who is Hal Rodgers?
Posted by: Chuckit at April 13, 2011 06:57 PM (G+sxF)
A lawyer. Seriously, behind every asshole Republican is a JD.
I'll bite - who is Hal Rodgers?
Posted by: Chuckit at April 13, 2011 06:57 PM (G+sxF)
A lawyer. Seriously, behind every asshole Republican is a JD.
Posted by: AmishDude at April 13, 2011 07:04 PM (T0NGe)
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what the government spends in about an hour and twenty minutes.
___
FUCK THEM ALL!
(with all due respect)
___
FUCK THEM ALL!
(with all due respect)
Posted by: USA at April 13, 2011 07:04 PM (YZISw)
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I like John Boehner but he's in way over his head.
He's no Newt Gingrich. Yeah, Newt got rolled a little bit by Clinton, but Newt had balls and Newt was a leader.
The difference between Newt Gingrich and John Boehner is that Newt EARNED his Speakership; he fought for it and he deserved it.
John Boehner stumbled into the Speakership by happenstance -- he happened to be at the right place at the right time. But he did no heavy lifting to get the job. We GAVE him the job -- The TEA PARTY gave him and that fuck Hal Rogers their new jobs.
now I'm getting angry...
I like John Boehner but he's in way over his head.
He's no Newt Gingrich. Yeah, Newt got rolled a little bit by Clinton, but Newt had balls and Newt was a leader.
The difference between Newt Gingrich and John Boehner is that Newt EARNED his Speakership; he fought for it and he deserved it.
John Boehner stumbled into the Speakership by happenstance -- he happened to be at the right place at the right time. But he did no heavy lifting to get the job. We GAVE him the job -- The TEA PARTY gave him and that fuck Hal Rogers their new jobs.
now I'm getting angry...
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 13, 2011 07:04 PM (UQjUb)
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...If the worthless fucks in the GOP cared one damn bit about controlling the size and growth of government, they would have ended mandatory withholding yesterday. ...
Posted by: jimmuy at April 13, 2011 07:00 PM (LkNeJ)
Cut. Jib. Newsletter.
Posted by: jimmuy at April 13, 2011 07:00 PM (LkNeJ)
Cut. Jib. Newsletter.
Posted by: Warthog at April 13, 2011 07:06 PM (k9Ylc)
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What we need now is a nasty Ewok image calling out Hal Rodgers.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at April 13, 2011 07:06 PM (9eDbm)
Posted by: apotheosis at April 13, 2011 07:06 PM (xWk3U)
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I heard Rush discussing with a caller that the repubs don't do the right thing because they can't get elected if the press makes sure everyone hates them.
My thought, we need patriots that will agree to one term. When you don't have to kiss ass to get elected you really can do the right thing.
My thought, we need patriots that will agree to one term. When you don't have to kiss ass to get elected you really can do the right thing.
Posted by: mare at April 13, 2011 07:06 PM (A98Xu)
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I'll post it again - I sent this in an email to Ace in January.
Hey, I have a bit of a different take on Bachmann and Demint. Probably not surprising as they align more closely to my view of politics than to yours I think, but hear me out.
Aside from the fact that going to immediate freakout mode anytime the MSM is telling a story about a conservative that makes one think that the conservative is doing something negative is probably a bad idea...I don't presume that Bachmann's speech on TPE is about a "look at me" action - first of all, the TPE guys laid it on a couple of weeks before Ryan was announced as the response. I am sure that Bachmann wants people who are TPE fans to see her as she is a primary Tea Party kind of candidate - but her position, and related, that of Jim Demint, does not distract from a unified message - it *backstops* that message. Think about it, the GOP isn't known as the stupid party for nothing. It would not surprise me in the least if a John Boehner led House majority were to go into negotiations with a significantly weaker Democrat minority and get totally rolled. If they come to the table with $60B in cuts as their opening bid, they might come out from behind closed doors with a deal to not increase spending by quite as much next year as it might have been, and a promise to hold a vote on some symbolic cut or another before the Labor Day break, and hear them call it a huge victory.
Let's just say I am part of the GOP's core constituency, and I don't have a lot of faith in them.
Demint's $200B opening bid isn't going to happen - but its an opening bid. And I suspect that Bachmann's speech is in support of Demint's "plan" - and essentially gives the Tea Party Caucus stamp of approval to it. It is perhaps a message to the GOP, but I think it is a stronger message to the Democrats. Yeah, we can play that game, too. I don't think the Tea Party caucus types would balk at the $60B cut, at the end of the day, they would say its a great start and move on. But when negotiating with Democrats, the GOP can take the position, yeah, hey, you are going to have to give enough ground to make my right flank accept this, and if you don't, you are going to have to pitch in enough votes to make it happen. The GOP and Dems KNOW that won't happen - so they are going to have to let the majority win.
If the GOP got rolled on it, they would be out in 2012 - there will be 3d party candidates and primaries that make 2010 look like an actual tea party with crumpets. So Bachmann et al. strengthen, not weaken, the mainstream GOP position.
Hey, I have a bit of a different take on Bachmann and Demint. Probably not surprising as they align more closely to my view of politics than to yours I think, but hear me out.
Aside from the fact that going to immediate freakout mode anytime the MSM is telling a story about a conservative that makes one think that the conservative is doing something negative is probably a bad idea...I don't presume that Bachmann's speech on TPE is about a "look at me" action - first of all, the TPE guys laid it on a couple of weeks before Ryan was announced as the response. I am sure that Bachmann wants people who are TPE fans to see her as she is a primary Tea Party kind of candidate - but her position, and related, that of Jim Demint, does not distract from a unified message - it *backstops* that message. Think about it, the GOP isn't known as the stupid party for nothing. It would not surprise me in the least if a John Boehner led House majority were to go into negotiations with a significantly weaker Democrat minority and get totally rolled. If they come to the table with $60B in cuts as their opening bid, they might come out from behind closed doors with a deal to not increase spending by quite as much next year as it might have been, and a promise to hold a vote on some symbolic cut or another before the Labor Day break, and hear them call it a huge victory.
Let's just say I am part of the GOP's core constituency, and I don't have a lot of faith in them.
Demint's $200B opening bid isn't going to happen - but its an opening bid. And I suspect that Bachmann's speech is in support of Demint's "plan" - and essentially gives the Tea Party Caucus stamp of approval to it. It is perhaps a message to the GOP, but I think it is a stronger message to the Democrats. Yeah, we can play that game, too. I don't think the Tea Party caucus types would balk at the $60B cut, at the end of the day, they would say its a great start and move on. But when negotiating with Democrats, the GOP can take the position, yeah, hey, you are going to have to give enough ground to make my right flank accept this, and if you don't, you are going to have to pitch in enough votes to make it happen. The GOP and Dems KNOW that won't happen - so they are going to have to let the majority win.
If the GOP got rolled on it, they would be out in 2012 - there will be 3d party candidates and primaries that make 2010 look like an actual tea party with crumpets. So Bachmann et al. strengthen, not weaken, the mainstream GOP position.
Posted by: blaster at April 13, 2011 07:06 PM (Fw2Gg)
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I feel like there's zero chance now of actually reining in government spending and honestly don't know what to do.
So is bankruptcy a political strategy at this point? Do you vote for Emperor Zero in 2012 and root for the Dems burn it to the ground? Would default actually stop anything?
So is bankruptcy a political strategy at this point? Do you vote for Emperor Zero in 2012 and root for the Dems burn it to the ground? Would default actually stop anything?
Posted by: Just Another Rube at April 13, 2011 07:06 PM (JEvSn)
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May as well pack it up, start storing food and ammo.
When you do, keep religion out of it, because if you don't, that would be cultic.
When you do, keep religion out of it, because if you don't, that would be cultic.
Posted by: sTevo at April 13, 2011 07:06 PM (VMcEw)
77
Engrave two tombstones. This weekend claimed both a country and the GOP. Death by suicide.
Time to start over. Wholesale purging of D.C. and every of its tentacles is an absolute need.
Time to start over. Wholesale purging of D.C. and every of its tentacles is an absolute need.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 13, 2011 07:06 PM (swuwV)
78
19 We are officially USDA Grade AAA top-sirloin-fucked.I had the naive belief that the only way to stop these cocksuckers is a national taxpayer strike. Now I am convinced even that wouldn't stop them; they are completely unmoored from corporeal reality, and nothing - absolutely nothing - will stop them from spending.
Posted by: iowahawk at April 13, 2011 06:55 PM (veL4N)
I really wonder, given the speed of the printing presses, why they bother taxing at all?
Ah, yes, the punishment factor.
Posted by: iowahawk at April 13, 2011 06:55 PM (veL4N)
I really wonder, given the speed of the printing presses, why they bother taxing at all?
Ah, yes, the punishment factor.
Posted by: Randy at April 13, 2011 07:07 PM (D0PNd)
79
All the more reason to work your rear ends off in 2012 for conservatives. That is what I plan on doing.
Posted by: Dan at April 13, 2011 07:07 PM (mXBxH)
80
Oh, and COCK!!!
Posted by: mare at April 13, 2011 07:07 PM (A98Xu)
81
Mongo Republican leadership only pawn... in game of life.
Posted by: Mongo at April 13, 2011 07:07 PM (JpFM9)
82
It's clear to most, we must vote these cocksuckers out of office and replace them with patriots. They fucked us, and we must return the fucking. And with extreme prejudice.
It's clear to most, we must vote these cocksuckers out of office and replace them with patriots. They fucked us, and we must return the fucking. And with extreme prejudice.
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at April 13, 2011 07:07 PM (ZHsNw)
83
Why Boehner, whatever do you mean? Maybe poker just isn't your game. I know, let's have a spelling contest.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 13, 2011 07:07 PM (ENKCw)
84
And still you laugh at my 2012 portent...
Posted by: Mayan Calendar at April 13, 2011 07:07 PM (xs5wK)
85
I live in Cantor's district -- JD from William and Mary
I swear I
think when you get elected and go up there for your freshman
indoctrination they give you a pill, red for R-Marxist and blue for
D-Marxist but the point is
It starts in law school, I'm telling you. That's where you fall in love with government. That's where you think of yourself as an elitist who knows better than the rest of us.
I swear I
think when you get elected and go up there for your freshman
indoctrination they give you a pill, red for R-Marxist and blue for
D-Marxist but the point is
It starts in law school, I'm telling you. That's where you fall in love with government. That's where you think of yourself as an elitist who knows better than the rest of us.
Posted by: AmishDude at April 13, 2011 07:08 PM (T0NGe)
86
57, WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO STOP FUCKING US
Actually, never, they are necropheliacs, because with the death tax the sodomizing does not end when you reach room temperature.
Actually, never, they are necropheliacs, because with the death tax the sodomizing does not end when you reach room temperature.
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at April 13, 2011 07:08 PM (cDRYC)
87
I am inclined to prefer the modern analogues to pitchforks and torches...
Posted by: goozer at April 13, 2011 07:08 PM (F1aIq)
88
Someone has to pay.
Oh, you can count that.
The rest have to know they're next. We can't hang them all, but we can hang one of them. To encourage the others.
People dependent on the government for their daily sustenance +
People dependent on affirmative action +
Union workers +
Gay rights activists +
Feminists +
Illegal immigrants +
Hard core leftists +
= A majority of America
That's your real problem.
Someone has to pay.
Oh, you can count that.
The rest have to know they're next. We can't hang them all, but we can hang one of them. To encourage the others.
People dependent on the government for their daily sustenance +
People dependent on affirmative action +
Union workers +
Gay rights activists +
Feminists +
Illegal immigrants +
Hard core leftists +
= A majority of America
That's your real problem.
Posted by: RayJ at April 13, 2011 07:08 PM (2oRAd)
89
You want to know how fucked we truly are?
Obama stands a very good chance to be re-elected.
Let that sink in.
Obama stands a very good chance to be re-elected.
Let that sink in.
Posted by: George Orwell at April 13, 2011 07:08 PM (+vkOU)
90
And only in a dream would said party get blamed as irrational extremists by the media. Can red states just secede?
I do believe that has been discussed before.
I do believe that has been discussed before.
Posted by: Randy at April 13, 2011 07:09 PM (D0PNd)
91
Hey, good news, "$226 million is cut from the southern border fence at the suggestion of Obama."
Posted by: Dr Spank at April 13, 2011 07:09 PM (4ZxEW)
92
I noted this problem around this time lat year when we were getting so excited about the election: Even when we take back the majority in the House, we still have the same leadership from the stellar 2001-2006 years.
Nothing will change with them in charge, and at this point we are running out of time for anything to change anyway. I honestly have no idea how we can fix this.
Nothing will change with them in charge, and at this point we are running out of time for anything to change anyway. I honestly have no idea how we can fix this.
Posted by: Alex #11 at April 13, 2011 07:09 PM (A2w5y)
93
Oh, and thanks, Nevada and California for Harry Reid and Barbara Boxer's re-election. A-holes.
For CA, blame the CA GOP. They're the bastards that didn't do shit to help Carly.
For CA, blame the CA GOP. They're the bastards that didn't do shit to help Carly.
Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom & Sith Apprentice at April 13, 2011 07:10 PM (YxBuk)
94
Jeebus on a motherfucking slice of white bread. I don't even know what to say. Right now I could pummel the living hell out of somebody. They can't be this damn stoopid. This was done on purpose. There's no question about it anymore. Any ignorant shit with a damn GED could have done better than this.
I'm so damn pissed off I can hearmy blood pulsing.
I'm so damn pissed off I can hearmy blood pulsing.
Posted by: Steph at April 13, 2011 07:10 PM (AkdC5)
95
WY
"Let's all uproot and move to Texas! Build a wall and let the rest of the country go all Road Warrior."
TX is going full blown wetback/scratch back. Don't put your faith there. Look at the statistics on white/black/hispanic, and then panic.
TX talks a good line, but it is changing fast.
"Let's all uproot and move to Texas! Build a wall and let the rest of the country go all Road Warrior."
TX is going full blown wetback/scratch back. Don't put your faith there. Look at the statistics on white/black/hispanic, and then panic.
TX talks a good line, but it is changing fast.
Posted by: Andrew at April 13, 2011 07:10 PM (QddTs)
96
I do not for the life of me understand why the Repub leadership is so shit-pantsed frightened of a government shutdown. I do believe that, unlike'95, there are a critical mass of people who have awakened to the fact that government workers are a pampered, arrogant, protected class, deserving of little sympathy if they are given a couple weeks 'vacation'. Add to this the fact that by the government's own planning figures, 800,000 of the fuckers are non-essential. Yes, that's right...non-essential. And given the fact that 95%+ of us are not government workers - if we can't convert that to some level of majority support from the American people then we may as well pack it all up and tell fucking Lichtenstein to take over as leader of the free world. For. Crying. Out. Loud.
Posted by: LGoPs at April 13, 2011 07:10 PM (lHn6+)
97
A lawyer. Seriously, behind every asshole Republican is a JD.
Did I say you could speak? Now hurry up with that chicken, and make sure it's the Extra Crispy kind.
Did I say you could speak? Now hurry up with that chicken, and make sure it's the Extra Crispy kind.
Posted by: Hal f'in Rogers at April 13, 2011 07:10 PM (SwkdU)
98
Since I'll end up behind barbed wire soon anyway, I'm thinking of printing my own 20 dollar bills and passing them off on naive, pimple faced clerks at Kroger.
I gotta save money somewhere, dammit!
I gotta save money somewhere, dammit!
Posted by: ErikW at April 13, 2011 07:10 PM (OgDRw)
99
You know what I saw on the way home, tonight in MA?
A red Toyota Prius...with Texas plates...
and a Ron Paul for president '08 bumper sticker.
thought it was funny...and it kinda made me think maybe Dr Paul's criticism about our spending was and is 100% right.
You know what I saw on the way home, tonight in MA?
A red Toyota Prius...with Texas plates...
and a Ron Paul for president '08 bumper sticker.
thought it was funny...and it kinda made me think maybe Dr Paul's criticism about our spending was and is 100% right.
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 13, 2011 07:10 PM (g73jP)
100
btw, last week a commenter used the "magic bean" analogy.
I used 'magic beans' a couple of weeks ago on Dwight.
I used 'magic beans' a couple of weeks ago on Dwight.
Posted by: jim halpert at April 13, 2011 07:11 PM (Y1DZt)
101
You know, I always used to laugh at idots that talked about a 3rd party.
After today? Not so much....not so much.
After today? Not so much....not so much.
Posted by: Max Power at April 13, 2011 07:11 PM (q177U)
102
OY:
From HA:
Update: NRO reports
that Boehner, Cantor, and Kevin McCarthy were still busy making the
pitch as of this morning. Freshman Tim Huelskamp, noting that $352
million is less than $2 per U.S. citizen, is unpersuaded:
From HA:
Update: NRO reports
that Boehner, Cantor, and Kevin McCarthy were still busy making the
pitch as of this morning. Freshman Tim Huelskamp, noting that $352
million is less than $2 per U.S. citizen, is unpersuaded:
Posted by: momma at April 13, 2011 07:11 PM (penCf)
103
For CA, blame the CA GOP. They're the bastards that didn't do shit to help Carly.
Figures. Screwed as a party.
Figures. Screwed as a party.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 13, 2011 07:11 PM (zgZzy)
104
We screech and holler, but yet we do nothing.
Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2011 07:11 PM (5FMhB)
105
So they were down to $14.7 yesterday by reducing rescissions, mandatory, and reserve funds. Now they're adding new military spending and it's somehow only a few hundred million? The article also mentions it isn't counting cuts that aren't immediate and dismisses anything it thinks won't provide savings.
Is it too much to ask for a list that doesn't discount things on whims?
Is it too much to ask for a list that doesn't discount things on whims?
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 07:11 PM (uVLrI)
106
Tell me again why I should vote for these Republican ass clowns. I am a libertarian. I shoudl vote that way.
Tell me again why I should vote for these Republican ass clowns. I am a libertarian. I shoudl vote that way.
Posted by: california red at April 13, 2011 07:11 PM (7uWb8)
107
They fucked us, and we must return the fucking.
Just make sure you use their dicks. Use your own, and any slight chance you may have had at 'ette ass is gone gone gone.
Just make sure you use their dicks. Use your own, and any slight chance you may have had at 'ette ass is gone gone gone.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 13, 2011 07:12 PM (cniXs)
108
Also, how is it possible to get rolled when you have the majority? If you had an honest position and strength of will it would be impossible to roll the leader. We, sadly, have neither in the House.
Posted by: Alex #11 at April 13, 2011 07:12 PM (A2w5y)
109
Since I'll end up behind barbed wire soon anyway,
I'm thinking of printing my own 20 dollar bills and passing them off on
naive, pimple faced clerks at Kroger.
I gotta save money somewhere, dammit!
Posted by: ErikW at April 13, 2011 07:10 PM (OgDRw)
High schoolers in OH just did this. But they were caught by a Wendy's clerk.
Since I'll end up behind barbed wire soon anyway,
I'm thinking of printing my own 20 dollar bills and passing them off on
naive, pimple faced clerks at Kroger.
I gotta save money somewhere, dammit!
Posted by: ErikW at April 13, 2011 07:10 PM (OgDRw)
High schoolers in OH just did this. But they were caught by a Wendy's clerk.
Posted by: momma at April 13, 2011 07:12 PM (penCf)
110
Obama stands a very good chance to be re-elected. Let that sink in.
Posted by: George Orwell at April 13, 2011 07:08 PM (+vkOU)
So I should invest in a really nice moped, helmet and orange flag?
Thanks for the head's up, yo.
Posted by: George Orwell at April 13, 2011 07:08 PM (+vkOU)
So I should invest in a really nice moped, helmet and orange flag?
Thanks for the head's up, yo.
Posted by: ErikW at April 13, 2011 07:12 PM (OgDRw)
111
Benefit of the doubt: It's a sucker's game.
Posted by: Whatever! at April 13, 2011 07:12 PM (piMMO)
112
My thought, we need patriots that will agree to one term. When you don't
have to kiss ass to get elected you really can do the right thing.
Unfortunately, the analogy here is one of a dealer giving a crackhead one big rock and telling him "this is all ya get...ever".
have to kiss ass to get elected you really can do the right thing.
Unfortunately, the analogy here is one of a dealer giving a crackhead one big rock and telling him "this is all ya get...ever".
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at April 13, 2011 07:13 PM (vbh31)
113
The Constitutional Union of American States
That's my entry for the name of the new nation. (you know there's no other solution, really)
That's my entry for the name of the new nation. (you know there's no other solution, really)
Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 13, 2011 07:13 PM (G/MYk)
114
I've said it before...
Ooh, there's no bread, let 'em eat cake
There's no end to what they'll take
Flaunt the fruits of noble birth
Wash the salt into the earth
But they're marching to Bastille Day.
La guillotine will claim her bloody prize.
Free the dungeons of the innocent
The king will kneel
And let his kingdom rise.
Ooh, there's stained velvet, dirty lace,
Naked fear on every face
See them bow their heads to die
As we would bow as they rode by
And we're marching to Bastille Day
La guillotine will claim her bloody prize
Sing, oh choirs of cacophony
The king has kneeled
To let his kingdom rise.
Lessons taught but never learned
All around us anger burns
Guide the future by the past
Long ago the mould was cast
For they marched up to Bastille Day
La guillotine claimed her bloody prize
Hear the echoes of the centuries
Power isn't all that money buys.
Ooh, there's no bread, let 'em eat cake
There's no end to what they'll take
Flaunt the fruits of noble birth
Wash the salt into the earth
But they're marching to Bastille Day.
La guillotine will claim her bloody prize.
Free the dungeons of the innocent
The king will kneel
And let his kingdom rise.
Ooh, there's stained velvet, dirty lace,
Naked fear on every face
See them bow their heads to die
As we would bow as they rode by
And we're marching to Bastille Day
La guillotine will claim her bloody prize
Sing, oh choirs of cacophony
The king has kneeled
To let his kingdom rise.
Lessons taught but never learned
All around us anger burns
Guide the future by the past
Long ago the mould was cast
For they marched up to Bastille Day
La guillotine claimed her bloody prize
Hear the echoes of the centuries
Power isn't all that money buys.
Posted by: Alex #11 at April 13, 2011 07:14 PM (A2w5y)
115
Actually isn't it worse than that because of the $$$ we are spending on bombing Libya right now?
Posted by: momma at April 13, 2011 07:14 PM (penCf)
Posted by: Kemp at April 13, 2011 07:14 PM (JpFM9)
117
101, Let the GOP put up some dipshit like Hucksterby, Romney or Santorum and yes, I could see it. We may lose, but what the fuck, either D or R we lose. I used to get crazy over a third party but if they are going to behave like Boner, FKUM.
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at April 13, 2011 07:14 PM (cDRYC)
118
The deal cut more than $200 million in border fencing. So does this mean that more than half the cuts were from border fencing?
Posted by: Jon at April 13, 2011 07:14 PM (Xt7UU)
119
I ththink at this point we need to start focusing on how to survive the collapse. It isn't going to be avoided. Any good blog posts about how to get by after the music stops?
Posted by: Todd at April 13, 2011 07:15 PM (9TcI8)
120
Leftover Soothsayers: "I like John Boehner but he's in way over his head."
You should probably stop. Liking people and then watching them fuck you over is no way to go through life. An amicable front man is not to be befriended. These people colluded on a fraud. At least with a Progressive, you know your enemy. Now we see our "allies" aren't.
Epic lying from the Dems I expected. Epic, intentional fail from the GOP I didn't. Not this time. There will be repercussions.
You should probably stop. Liking people and then watching them fuck you over is no way to go through life. An amicable front man is not to be befriended. These people colluded on a fraud. At least with a Progressive, you know your enemy. Now we see our "allies" aren't.
Epic lying from the Dems I expected. Epic, intentional fail from the GOP I didn't. Not this time. There will be repercussions.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at April 13, 2011 07:15 PM (swuwV)
121
Boehner has been all over twitter today talking about how real the cuts were and they weren't just accounting gimmicks but fuck him. I was okay with the 38 billion, and hell i was even ok with the 14 billion because a cut is a cut. But I am livid about this. How can the GOP expect to be taken seriously if all they do is cave and roll over for the dems? I half expect to find out that Ryan's budget plan actually increases spending instead of seriously curtails it.
Posted by: hueydiamondpooty at April 13, 2011 07:15 PM (YhZFe)
122
Alright, I see what they're doing here. The immediate deficit reduction impact = $352M in the CBO's opinion.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 07:15 PM (uVLrI)
123
"F*** it all. Shut it down. Burn it down. The hell with it all."
Not before the plug is irreversibly pulled on the dollar. Up until then, there's still a chance to avert disaster.
"F*** it all. Shut it down. Burn it down. The hell with it all."
Not before the plug is irreversibly pulled on the dollar. Up until then, there's still a chance to avert disaster.
Posted by: Old Sailor at April 13, 2011 07:15 PM (/Ft4q)
124
Update: NRO reports
that Boehner, Cantor, and Kevin McCarthy were still busy making the
pitch as of this morning. Freshman Tim Huelskamp, noting that $352
million is less than $2 per U.S. citizen, is unpersuaded:
Posted by: momma at April 13, 2011 07:11 PM (penCf)
It's about $1.15.....less than a 1/3 gallon of gas.
that Boehner, Cantor, and Kevin McCarthy were still busy making the
pitch as of this morning. Freshman Tim Huelskamp, noting that $352
million is less than $2 per U.S. citizen, is unpersuaded:
Posted by: momma at April 13, 2011 07:11 PM (penCf)
It's about $1.15.....less than a 1/3 gallon of gas.
Posted by: Tami at April 13, 2011 07:15 PM (VuLos)
125
Obama stands a very good chance to be re-elected.
Pretty hard to beat Obama without a challenger. So I'll go even further and say that Obama has a 99.9% probability of being reelected.
We'll get a challenger, eventually.
But the question remains: Will said challenger put up a challenge?
We have to be perfect in 2012 to beat Obama. No fuckups, no mis-steps, no kissing up to the middle or the media.
Obama stands a very good chance to be re-elected.
Pretty hard to beat Obama without a challenger. So I'll go even further and say that Obama has a 99.9% probability of being reelected.
We'll get a challenger, eventually.
But the question remains: Will said challenger put up a challenge?
We have to be perfect in 2012 to beat Obama. No fuckups, no mis-steps, no kissing up to the middle or the media.
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 13, 2011 07:15 PM (UQjUb)
126
It's clear to most, we must vote these cocksuckers out of office and replace them with patriots. They fucked us, and we must return the fucking. And with extreme prejudice.
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at April 13, 2011 07:07 PM (ZHsNw)
Meh, I don't give a fuck anymore. We just did that remember? When we do it we just go after the ones we just elected because they aren't giving us everything we want right fucking now!
If you read the article it isn't as bad as ace or the headline says it is. At worst the cuts made may not save money in the next six months. Like the highway fund money may not have been released this year but next year. Whether it's was going to be spent this year or next year now it isn't going to be spent.
On the other hand cuts to pell grants that will only save $1 Billion this year will save $40 Billion over the next ten years and those were permanent cuts.
If we are only going to give these guys three months on the job to fix 10 years of fuckups then what's the point. You are setting them up for failure so why work to elect them or replace them?
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at April 13, 2011 07:07 PM (ZHsNw)
Meh, I don't give a fuck anymore. We just did that remember? When we do it we just go after the ones we just elected because they aren't giving us everything we want right fucking now!
If you read the article it isn't as bad as ace or the headline says it is. At worst the cuts made may not save money in the next six months. Like the highway fund money may not have been released this year but next year. Whether it's was going to be spent this year or next year now it isn't going to be spent.
On the other hand cuts to pell grants that will only save $1 Billion this year will save $40 Billion over the next ten years and those were permanent cuts.
If we are only going to give these guys three months on the job to fix 10 years of fuckups then what's the point. You are setting them up for failure so why work to elect them or replace them?
Posted by: robtr at April 13, 2011 07:16 PM (MtwBb)
127
"so that we could cut the 365 days of spending of 2010 into 354 days,"
i think you want 364 there
i think you want 364 there
Posted by: newrouter at April 13, 2011 07:16 PM (6BXlQ)
128
I find your lack of faith in this Farce disturbing.
Posted by: Darth Prevaricator at April 13, 2011 07:16 PM (sJTmU)
129
And on Facebook, right fucking now, my lib friends are chatting away about CEO bonuses. Man, we're fucked.
Posted by: William at April 13, 2011 07:16 PM (77TeU)
130
Trump in 2012!
Posted by: Trump in 2012! at April 13, 2011 07:17 PM (xs5wK)
131
Wouldn't it be great if some terrorist brought a suitcase nuke into Congress and solved the government problem for us. Okay, I'm kidding, but I feel just as angry.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 13, 2011 07:17 PM (081kp)
132
121 I half expect to find out that Ryan's budget plan actually
increases spending instead of seriously curtails it.
The CBO already scored it*, as did Heritage. It doesn't.
*They also hit it with partisan analysis afterward
increases spending instead of seriously curtails it.
The CBO already scored it*, as did Heritage. It doesn't.
*They also hit it with partisan analysis afterward
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 07:17 PM (uVLrI)
133
High schoolers in OH just did this. But they were caught by a Wendy's clerk.
Posted by: momma at April 13, 2011 07:12 PM (penCf)
So, don't pass off my counterfeit loot at Wendy's?
Thanks for the tip!
pssst, I'll hook you up with some Bomb Burritos from Speedway for thedown low*wink, wink*
Posted by: momma at April 13, 2011 07:12 PM (penCf)
So, don't pass off my counterfeit loot at Wendy's?
Thanks for the tip!
pssst, I'll hook you up with some Bomb Burritos from Speedway for thedown low*wink, wink*
Posted by: ErikW at April 13, 2011 07:17 PM (OgDRw)
134
It's about $1.15.....less than a 1/3 gallon of gas.
Posted by: Tami at April 13, 2011 07:15 PM (VuLos)
Someone needs to buya new electric car!
Posted by: Tami at April 13, 2011 07:15 PM (VuLos)
Someone needs to buya new electric car!
Posted by: Randy at April 13, 2011 07:17 PM (D0PNd)
135
That's $1.14 per person in the 2010 Census. Draconian.
Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at April 13, 2011 07:17 PM (BvTwT)
136
I hate to say it but it is really getting close to third party time. The Republicans are better then the Democrats but fuck we know the Dems will stab us in the front its just that the Republicans keep stabbing us in the back.
Posted by: Drew in MO at April 13, 2011 07:17 PM (n6NRR)
137
I don't know what everyone else does for a living but every year for the past four years in mine the income column has been going down. Every day for the past four years I've been working as efficient as I can trying to keep things going. I thought maybe after November things might start turning around but with the rise in fuel cost, which effects all costs, things are only going to get worse this summer. It's like beating your head against a wall.
Then I come home and read this shit. Jesus fucking Christ, does any of those asshole actually know what the fuck is going on out here? It's a goddamn struggle every fucking day and they just don't give a shit.
Then I come home and read this shit. Jesus fucking Christ, does any of those asshole actually know what the fuck is going on out here? It's a goddamn struggle every fucking day and they just don't give a shit.
Posted by: lowandslow at April 13, 2011 07:17 PM (GZitp)
138
Did Heritage did their own score on Rogers' bill?
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 07:18 PM (uVLrI)
139
Only one way to reverse this..
Posted by: Upside to the Zombie Apocalypse at April 13, 2011 07:18 PM (gJNMj)
140
Fuck them all. Burn it down.
Posted by: P at April 13, 2011 07:18 PM (kkMCU)
141
We need fucking term limits so these fucking fucks aren't so concerned about their re-election and start concentrating on what is fucking good for this country.
Excuse my fucking language but I am fucking pissed off.
Excuse my fucking language but I am fucking pissed off.
Posted by: Geronimo at April 13, 2011 07:19 PM (KVI8B)
142
Who gives a shit if Obamma is re-elected.
Today = game over. I'm going to start stocking up on drinking water. (and toilet paper)
Today = game over. I'm going to start stocking up on drinking water. (and toilet paper)
Posted by: Max Power at April 13, 2011 07:19 PM (q177U)
143
>A lawyer. Seriously, behind every asshole >Republican is a JD.
Hey, AmishDude—did your wife run away with a lawyer or something? I mean, you're 100% sensible 99% of the time, but you're just fucking unreasonable about lawyers.
My wife is a prosecutor, and she fights the good fight just the same as you. Our side needs lawyers too.
Hey, AmishDude—did your wife run away with a lawyer or something? I mean, you're 100% sensible 99% of the time, but you're just fucking unreasonable about lawyers.
My wife is a prosecutor, and she fights the good fight just the same as you. Our side needs lawyers too.
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at April 13, 2011 07:19 PM (fjoLg)
144
141 We need fucking term limits so these fucking fucks aren't so concerned about their re-election and start concentrating on what is fucking good for this country.
Agreed, but it'll never happen. Who votes to end their own meal ticket?
Agreed, but it'll never happen. Who votes to end their own meal ticket?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 13, 2011 07:20 PM (zgZzy)
145
Could be worse. Mike Castle could be in the Senate.
Posted by: blaster at April 13, 2011 07:20 PM (Fw2Gg)
146
"so that we could cut the 365 days of spending of 2010 into 354 days,"
i think you want 364 there
It's okay. It's spread cross the 57 states so, it all evens out.
i think you want 364 there
It's okay. It's spread cross the 57 states so, it all evens out.
Posted by: Whatever! at April 13, 2011 07:20 PM (piMMO)
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36 If you depend on government to survive, please die.Oh, and fuck you.
Posted by: jwpaine at April 13, 2011 06:58 PM (FUozQ)
jwpaine 2012! I like your platform.
Posted by: jwpaine at April 13, 2011 06:58 PM (FUozQ)
jwpaine 2012! I like your platform.
Posted by: Princess Barry at April 13, 2011 07:21 PM (vIWL2)
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136, we just gotta replace more of the republicans! I am to the point where if we nominate another RINO in 2012, I am out! But I figure we give it one last stand to see if this country wants a steady decline or a return to prosperity, so I will work hard in the 2012 primaries.
Posted by: Dan at April 13, 2011 07:21 PM (mXBxH)
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The Constitutional Union of American StatesThat's my entry for the name of the new nation. (you know there's no other solution, really)
Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 13, 2011 07:13 PM (G/MYk)
I'll give 2012 a decent chance ( my hopes are diminishiing, though). If nothing changes after that and we get thesame old tired shit, then let the sucession begin. I'll be all in. We'll literally have nothing to lose at that point.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 13, 2011 07:13 PM (G/MYk)
I'll give 2012 a decent chance ( my hopes are diminishiing, though). If nothing changes after that and we get thesame old tired shit, then let the sucession begin. I'll be all in. We'll literally have nothing to lose at that point.
Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2011 07:21 PM (5FMhB)
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shit, sock fail on 147
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at April 13, 2011 07:21 PM (vIWL2)
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130
Trump in 2012!
You'll love me, I've already gone bankrupt, three/four times, I can take the country there before you can say "debtor in possession".
Did I mention I also hate guns and don't drink?
Trump in 2012!
You'll love me, I've already gone bankrupt, three/four times, I can take the country there before you can say "debtor in possession".
Did I mention I also hate guns and don't drink?
Posted by: H Ross Trump at April 13, 2011 07:21 PM (JpFM9)
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Also, GET OUT OF DEBT RIGHT NOW! The government is almost guaran-tee going to collapse now. I think we'll all survive just fine, but if you expect anything, ANYTHING from the govn'ment to keep you alive, just start fucking your ass with household objects now. Save some damn time.
Posted by: William at April 13, 2011 07:22 PM (77TeU)
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2012? I would care if I thought that the Communists would allow us to win. But we are not in a legitimate nation anymore, and the courts have held that the whims of the President/GodEmperor is more important than actual law, and the President and his co-conspirators are dyed-in-the-wool evil tyrannists (is that even a word? Nevermind, I am coining it.) dedicated to the destruction of our free society and the enslavement ("restricting rights for the betterment of the society") of all of us.
I sincerely doubt that any sham election will have any consequences. They will not allow 2010 to occur again. Ever.
So yeah, I understand, Ace.
Unfortunately, I really understand.
I sincerely doubt that any sham election will have any consequences. They will not allow 2010 to occur again. Ever.
So yeah, I understand, Ace.
Unfortunately, I really understand.
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at April 13, 2011 07:22 PM (odfEr)
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More OY: (because you know when they talk of national reconstruction they are saying 'the US needs to pay for......'
UN: Stabilization and Reconciliation Key in Ivory Coast
With the arrest on Monday of former Ivorian President Laurent Gbagbo
signaling an end to the post-election violence that has rocked the
country for the past four months, the head of the U.N.’s peacekeeping
mission in Ivory Coast, Choi Young-jin, said the challenge now will be
to restore law and order and start the process of national healing.The
envoy briefed the U.N. Security Council via a video link from his
headquarters in Abidjan. He said there are four major challenges that
need the immediate attention of President Alassane Ouattara’s
administration."The first challenge is the restoration of peace
and law and order throughout the country, particularly in Abidjan. The
second challenge is the prevention of any further human rights abuses
and violations and the delivery of humanitarian assistance - especially
in the western part of the country where several serious problems have
already been reported. The third challenge is national reconciliation.
On this score, President Ouattara has been making a very clear stance in
favor of reconciliation as opposed to retribution. The fourth and
perhaps most formidable challenge awaiting the Ivorian people, appears
to be national reconstruction - particularly with regard to the
promotion of education, creation of youth employment, addressing the
land ownership problem, poverty eradication and economic development,"
he said.
UN: Stabilization and Reconciliation Key in Ivory Coast
With the arrest on Monday of former Ivorian President Laurent Gbagbo
signaling an end to the post-election violence that has rocked the
country for the past four months, the head of the U.N.’s peacekeeping
mission in Ivory Coast, Choi Young-jin, said the challenge now will be
to restore law and order and start the process of national healing.The
envoy briefed the U.N. Security Council via a video link from his
headquarters in Abidjan. He said there are four major challenges that
need the immediate attention of President Alassane Ouattara’s
administration."The first challenge is the restoration of peace
and law and order throughout the country, particularly in Abidjan. The
second challenge is the prevention of any further human rights abuses
and violations and the delivery of humanitarian assistance - especially
in the western part of the country where several serious problems have
already been reported. The third challenge is national reconciliation.
On this score, President Ouattara has been making a very clear stance in
favor of reconciliation as opposed to retribution. The fourth and
perhaps most formidable challenge awaiting the Ivorian people, appears
to be national reconstruction - particularly with regard to the
promotion of education, creation of youth employment, addressing the
land ownership problem, poverty eradication and economic development,"
he said.
Posted by: momma at April 13, 2011 07:22 PM (penCf)
Posted by: Helen Thomas at April 13, 2011 07:22 PM (EL+OC)
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Let that sink in.
Posted by: George Orwell
(runs across the room with fingers in ears)
LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU
Posted by: George Orwell
(runs across the room with fingers in ears)
LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU
Posted by: pitchforksandpowder at April 13, 2011 07:23 PM (GStPL)
157
2 weeks ago when i suggested The Tea Party Armed Forces, i was laughed at/jeered at and partially raped.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at April 13, 2011 07:23 PM (EiH7n)
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@78 "I really wonder, given the speed of the printing presses, why they bother taxing at all?"
Absolutely spot on. Indeed, it's clear at this point that they think deficits are completely meaningless; so why the fuck should we send them taxes at all?
In fact, I say let them continue to pay their loyal, vote-casting parasites. In "dollars," a/k/a Imperial Magic Bean Credits. The rest of us can create our own private currency.
Absolutely spot on. Indeed, it's clear at this point that they think deficits are completely meaningless; so why the fuck should we send them taxes at all?
In fact, I say let them continue to pay their loyal, vote-casting parasites. In "dollars," a/k/a Imperial Magic Bean Credits. The rest of us can create our own private currency.
Posted by: iowahawk at April 13, 2011 07:24 PM (veL4N)
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How many democrats will bohner need to get this shit sandwhich passed? Cause I'm thinking the republicans rats are about to jump over board.
Yeah, I said it! RATS!
Yeah, I said it! RATS!
Posted by: Max Power yelling like that Levin guy! at April 13, 2011 07:24 PM (q177U)
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Well, at least I don't live in a country where they call me an Ivorian. I don't think I could live with that.
Posted by: LGoPs at April 13, 2011 07:24 PM (lHn6+)
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141
We need fucking term limits so these fucking fucks aren't so concerned
about their re-election and start concentrating on what is fucking good
for this country.
Excuse my fucking language but I am fucking
pissed off.
Posted by: Geronimo at April 13, 2011 07:19 PM (KVI8B)
How do you do it though? You will never get 2/3 of both houses to approve it. Do we have enough support to get 2/3 of the states to call for a Constitutional Convention? It's gotta be getting damn close.
We need fucking term limits so these fucking fucks aren't so concerned
about their re-election and start concentrating on what is fucking good
for this country.
Excuse my fucking language but I am fucking
pissed off.
Posted by: Geronimo at April 13, 2011 07:19 PM (KVI8B)
How do you do it though? You will never get 2/3 of both houses to approve it. Do we have enough support to get 2/3 of the states to call for a Constitutional Convention? It's gotta be getting damn close.
Posted by: lowandslow at April 13, 2011 07:24 PM (GZitp)
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149 The Constitutional Union of American StatesThat's my entry for the name of the new nation. (you know there's no other solution, really)
Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 13, 2011 07:13 PM (G/MYk)
Ialready have the new name selected- The People's Republic of Obamaland.My people are working on the logo.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 13, 2011 07:13 PM (G/MYk)
Ialready have the new name selected- The People's Republic of Obamaland.My people are working on the logo.
Posted by: Princess Barry at April 13, 2011 07:25 PM (vIWL2)
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>>Not before the plug is irreversibly pulled on the dollar. Up until then, there's still a chance to avert disaster
That plug has already been pulled. PIMCO shorted Treasury bonds for the first time last weekend. QE2 ends this June and the Feds will stop buying bonds. Rates are going to sky rocket and inflation will be right there with it.
We are in a slow motion death spiral. Enjoy the view.
That plug has already been pulled. PIMCO shorted Treasury bonds for the first time last weekend. QE2 ends this June and the Feds will stop buying bonds. Rates are going to sky rocket and inflation will be right there with it.
We are in a slow motion death spiral. Enjoy the view.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 13, 2011 07:25 PM (TMB3S)
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Wish I'd come up with this analogy, but it was at Books, Bikes, and Boomsticks:
"So John Q. Public is wheeled in with an arterial bleeder, and Dr. Reid
says a bandaid should fix it, while Dr. Boehner wants one of those
little 3" gauze squares. They compromised on a 2" gauze pad, but with
only one strip of tape."
"So John Q. Public is wheeled in with an arterial bleeder, and Dr. Reid
says a bandaid should fix it, while Dr. Boehner wants one of those
little 3" gauze squares. They compromised on a 2" gauze pad, but with
only one strip of tape."
Posted by: Alex at April 13, 2011 07:25 PM (/yzYn)
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144
141
We need fucking term limits so these fucking fucks aren't so concerned
about their re-election and start concentrating on what is fucking good
for this country.
Agreed, but it'll never happen. Who votes to end their own meal ticket?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 13, 2011 07:20 PM (zgZzy)
Oh yes, I know. But a girl can dream, can't she? A girl can fucking dream...
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We need fucking term limits so these fucking fucks aren't so concerned
about their re-election and start concentrating on what is fucking good
for this country.
Agreed, but it'll never happen. Who votes to end their own meal ticket?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 13, 2011 07:20 PM (zgZzy)
Oh yes, I know. But a girl can dream, can't she? A girl can fucking dream...
Posted by: Geronimo at April 13, 2011 07:25 PM (KVI8B)
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Rodgers? Fuck that. Boner must go. Primary him. Then third party him. Ditto that lying weasel Cantor.
Now, where's that Boner apologist Gabe? He has some splainin to do.
Now, where's that Boner apologist Gabe? He has some splainin to do.
Posted by: Mr Diddy Wah Diddy at April 13, 2011 07:25 PM (62eAJ)
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So will the republican elitists ass rape the new 87 members of the house, or will they be allowed to quietly return to their homes with their ball sacks attached?
So will the republican elitists ass rape the new 87 members of the house, or will they be allowed to quietly return to their homes with their ball sacks attached?
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at April 13, 2011 07:25 PM (ZHsNw)
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I'm ready for a third party now. Left the Republican Party several years ago because of shit like this. I'm more than had enough.
Posted by: g at April 13, 2011 07:25 PM (LJBsr)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 13, 2011 07:26 PM (UQjUb)
Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at April 13, 2011 07:26 PM (FYCiJ)
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The Constitutional Union of American States
That's my entry for the name of the new nation. (you know there's no other solution, really)
Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 13, 2011 07:13 PM (G/MYk)
I'm leaning more towards something like: The Constitutional Union of Fuck All the Rest Of You All.
The Constitutional Union of American States
That's my entry for the name of the new nation. (you know there's no other solution, really)
Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 13, 2011 07:13 PM (G/MYk)
I'm leaning more towards something like: The Constitutional Union of Fuck All the Rest Of You All.
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at April 13, 2011 07:26 PM (6IReR)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 13, 2011 07:26 PM (UQjUb)
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Oh yes, I know. But a girl can dream, can't she? A girl can fucking dream
Dream away!!! Better than facing reality.
Dream away!!! Better than facing reality.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 13, 2011 07:26 PM (zgZzy)
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F*** it all. Shut it down. Burn it down. The hell with it all.
I, for one, am not ready to fold the tent just yet. My visceral hatred for these Dem communist bastards and their wing-nudge GOP cohorts knows no bounds. Personally, I've made the turn and am now playing the back nine on life's golf course. By and large, I've had a good life but I have far too many loved ones and friends who are going to suffer for this shit long after I am worm food. The more these assholes try to fuck us over, the more hardened becomes my resolve. It may be the Charge of the Light Brigade on my part, but I ain't goin' down without a nasty fight. We've got to try and excise this virulent cancer from our midst. Quitting is not an option.
I, for one, am not ready to fold the tent just yet. My visceral hatred for these Dem communist bastards and their wing-nudge GOP cohorts knows no bounds. Personally, I've made the turn and am now playing the back nine on life's golf course. By and large, I've had a good life but I have far too many loved ones and friends who are going to suffer for this shit long after I am worm food. The more these assholes try to fuck us over, the more hardened becomes my resolve. It may be the Charge of the Light Brigade on my part, but I ain't goin' down without a nasty fight. We've got to try and excise this virulent cancer from our midst. Quitting is not an option.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at April 13, 2011 07:27 PM (vbh31)
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126
...If you read the article it isn't as bad as ace or the
headline says it is. At worst the cuts made may not
save money in the next six months. Like the highway fund money may not
have been released this year but next year. Whether it's was going to be
spent this year or next year now it isn't going to be
spent.
On the other hand cuts to pell grants that will only
save $1 Billion this year will save $40 Billion over the next ten years
and those were permanent cuts...
That's indeed what it says. CBO has tallied immediate savings of discretionary according to bizarre budgetary rules. I want a complete and total list of what they predict is gone but not necessary by the end of this year.
...If you read the article it isn't as bad as ace or the
headline says it is. At worst the cuts made may not
save money in the next six months. Like the highway fund money may not
have been released this year but next year. Whether it's was going to be
spent this year or next year now it isn't going to be
spent.
On the other hand cuts to pell grants that will only
save $1 Billion this year will save $40 Billion over the next ten years
and those were permanent cuts...
That's indeed what it says. CBO has tallied immediate savings of discretionary according to bizarre budgetary rules. I want a complete and total list of what they predict is gone but not necessary by the end of this year.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 07:27 PM (uVLrI)
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It is simply not possibly for the federal budget to ever shrink in a meaningful way.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at April 13, 2011 07:27 PM (ZGhSU)
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 13, 2011 07:27 PM (g73jP)
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Now, where's that Boner apologist Gabe? He has some splainin to do.
Posted by: Mr Diddy Wah Diddy at April 13, 2011 07:25 PM (62eAJ)
Bath house again?
Posted by: Mr Diddy Wah Diddy at April 13, 2011 07:25 PM (62eAJ)
Bath house again?
Posted by: Bruce at April 13, 2011 07:27 PM (EL+OC)
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We'll get a challenger, eventually.
But the question remains: Will said challenger put up a challenge?
My friendsh, you have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency.
But the question remains: Will said challenger put up a challenge?
My friendsh, you have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency.
Posted by: John Fucking McCain at April 13, 2011 07:27 PM (+vkOU)
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you're a girl?
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 13, 2011 07:26 PM (UQjUb)
And probably a girl with hooter's and stuff.
you're a girl?
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 13, 2011 07:26 PM (UQjUb)
And probably a girl with hooter's and stuff.
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at April 13, 2011 07:27 PM (ZHsNw)
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Yes Sooth, I am a girl. With huge...tracts of land.
Posted by: Geronimo at April 13, 2011 07:27 PM (KVI8B)
Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at April 13, 2011 07:28 PM (FYCiJ)
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at April 13, 2011 07:28 PM (vbh31)
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Could be worse. Mike Castle could be in the Senate.
Now that thar is what we call "gallows humor."
Now that thar is what we call "gallows humor."
Posted by: George Orwell at April 13, 2011 07:28 PM (+vkOU)
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I call BS on the MFM reporting on this.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 07:29 PM (uVLrI)
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Oh, and I'll believe there is a Republican (or any politician) with balls when they start openly talking about how Americans should just stop paying their taxes.
All they have to say is, "I don't know why most people keep paying their taxes. All that happens we politicians and bureaucrats waste and squander it. I mean really: Does anyone think they are getting a good deal for the amount of taxes they are paying?"
You thought Trump was stirring up shit?
All they have to say is, "I don't know why most people keep paying their taxes. All that happens we politicians and bureaucrats waste and squander it. I mean really: Does anyone think they are getting a good deal for the amount of taxes they are paying?"
You thought Trump was stirring up shit?
Posted by: jimmuy at April 13, 2011 07:29 PM (LkNeJ)
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America's Last Days,a novel...by Doug MacKinnon
Crappy characters, great scenario
Crappy characters, great scenario
Posted by: USS Diversity at April 13, 2011 07:29 PM (gJNMj)
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I wonder if the Romans, as the Empire was collapsing, sat around andsaid "Wow. I am witnessing the fall of the Roman Empire".
Probbly not. It took their Empire hundreds of years to fall. Longer than we've even been around.
Probbly not. It took their Empire hundreds of years to fall. Longer than we've even been around.
Posted by: LGoPs at April 13, 2011 07:29 PM (lHn6+)
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The budget cannot be fixed. The GOP knows the voters will never stand for austerity, even if the end is collapse.
They are merely taking the path of least resistance until that collapse.
They are merely taking the path of least resistance until that collapse.
Posted by: Radiant at April 13, 2011 07:29 PM (dQdrY)
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The CBO already scored it*, as did Heritage. It doesn't.*They also hit it with partisan analysis afterward
Oh I know. I actually like Ryan. I trust him and I would love to see him take the Presidential Oath of Office in 2013. But pretty much 95% of the rest can go to hell.
Oh I know. I actually like Ryan. I trust him and I would love to see him take the Presidential Oath of Office in 2013. But pretty much 95% of the rest can go to hell.
Posted by: hueydiamondpooty at April 13, 2011 07:30 PM (YhZFe)
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I'll bite - who is Hal Rodgers?
Here's a clue. Hal Rodgers Parkway used to be name Daniel Boone Parkway.
Theyshould have renamed ATM's instead.
Here's a clue. Hal Rodgers Parkway used to be name Daniel Boone Parkway.
Theyshould have renamed ATM's instead.
Posted by: Wink Dinkelman at April 13, 2011 07:30 PM (j/Hny)
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Probbly not. It took their Empire hundreds of years to fall. Longer than we've even been around.
Posted by: LGoPs at April 13, 2011 07:29 PM (lHn6+)
They had Nero, we got Toonces.
Probbly not. It took their Empire hundreds of years to fall. Longer than we've even been around.
Posted by: LGoPs at April 13, 2011 07:29 PM (lHn6+)
They had Nero, we got Toonces.
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at April 13, 2011 07:30 PM (6IReR)
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F*** it all. Shut it down. Burn it down. The hell with it all.
2012? Who cares?
I recall Ace smacking me down for saying something similar.
F*** it all. Shut it down. Burn it down. The hell with it all.
2012? Who cares?
I recall Ace smacking me down for saying something similar.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at April 13, 2011 07:30 PM (ZGhSU)
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Hey, anybody gonna finish raping me?
Posted by: humphreyrobot at April 13, 2011 07:31 PM (EiH7n)
195
And I am a bit Injun, but only a bit. Lenape tribe about five generations ago.
Posted by: Geronimo at April 13, 2011 07:31 PM (KVI8B)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 13, 2011 07:31 PM (zgZzy)
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I still can't get over the fact that John Boehner gave up the Debt Limit card in exchange of for nothing.
Actually he did get something, I'm sorry.
He got a barrage of nasty insults and ludicrous smears from the Democrats and Obama.
I still can't get over the fact that John Boehner gave up the Debt Limit card in exchange of for nothing.
Actually he did get something, I'm sorry.
He got a barrage of nasty insults and ludicrous smears from the Democrats and Obama.
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 13, 2011 07:31 PM (g73jP)
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Hal Rodgers has to go. Has to go. The party has to demand he resign from his post. There have to be consequences. Someone has to pay. F*** it all. Shut it down. Burn it down. The hell with it all.
2012? Who cares?
But see, Ace, here's the problem with that. Let's say that Rodgers doesn't "go"; then you get even more pissed and demand that our House majority ALL pay. So then you get a bunch of us to stay home in November 2012. Next day we get up and discover that not only has Obama been re-elected, and Harry Reid is still Senate Majority Leader, but Nancy Pelosi has gotten back the Speaker's gavel.
Question for you: How does that help our cause?
Who cares? YOU should. We ALL should. We HAVE to. It was just this kind of "the hell with it all" attitude in 2006 that handed the whole kit kaboodle to those Donk animals in the first place. Think we'd be looking at Debtageddon today if we'd had Boehner McConnell at the helm and Bush/McCain at the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue? Once you stop emoting, your answer will be "hell, no." But nooooo, all you tighty-righties had to take a walk on them, and we ended up with the Three Horsepersons of the Donkalypse. And now you want to do it again! It's like digging yourself into a huge hole you can't climb out of and then blaming the shovel.
The lesson you're refusing to learn? It can get worse. A lot worse. And a lot quicker. When the GOP is in power, if nothing else, it means the Dems aren't. And that can at least buy some additional time, even if only to go down, like the band on the Titanic, with some semblance of dignity.
Or maybe the economy'll collapse this summer and this budget fiasco will turn out to not have mattered.
And they say I can't be optimistic.
Hal Rodgers has to go. Has to go. The party has to demand he resign from his post. There have to be consequences. Someone has to pay. F*** it all. Shut it down. Burn it down. The hell with it all.
2012? Who cares?
But see, Ace, here's the problem with that. Let's say that Rodgers doesn't "go"; then you get even more pissed and demand that our House majority ALL pay. So then you get a bunch of us to stay home in November 2012. Next day we get up and discover that not only has Obama been re-elected, and Harry Reid is still Senate Majority Leader, but Nancy Pelosi has gotten back the Speaker's gavel.
Question for you: How does that help our cause?
Who cares? YOU should. We ALL should. We HAVE to. It was just this kind of "the hell with it all" attitude in 2006 that handed the whole kit kaboodle to those Donk animals in the first place. Think we'd be looking at Debtageddon today if we'd had Boehner McConnell at the helm and Bush/McCain at the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue? Once you stop emoting, your answer will be "hell, no." But nooooo, all you tighty-righties had to take a walk on them, and we ended up with the Three Horsepersons of the Donkalypse. And now you want to do it again! It's like digging yourself into a huge hole you can't climb out of and then blaming the shovel.
The lesson you're refusing to learn? It can get worse. A lot worse. And a lot quicker. When the GOP is in power, if nothing else, it means the Dems aren't. And that can at least buy some additional time, even if only to go down, like the band on the Titanic, with some semblance of dignity.
Or maybe the economy'll collapse this summer and this budget fiasco will turn out to not have mattered.
And they say I can't be optimistic.
Posted by: JASmius at April 13, 2011 07:31 PM (qtCHY)
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Here's a clue. Hal Rodgers Parkway used to be name Daniel Boone Parkway.
They should have renamed ATM's instead.
Perhaps they could name electronic food stamp cards after him.
They should have renamed ATM's instead.
Perhaps they could name electronic food stamp cards after him.
Posted by: George Orwell at April 13, 2011 07:31 PM (+vkOU)
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So where can I find a third party?
Posted by: Methos at April 13, 2011 07:31 PM (uqJo6)
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Two important things were accomplished here. First, a government shutdown was averted. Second, the JEF was able to go on the air before the ink was dry and claim it was historic levels of cuts and he led the way.
That's what's important. Not reality.
No wonder Pimco unloaded all their Treasuries. Bond holders will have to take a haircut soon. Just like GM bondholders. A 95% fucking haircut.
That's what's important. Not reality.
No wonder Pimco unloaded all their Treasuries. Bond holders will have to take a haircut soon. Just like GM bondholders. A 95% fucking haircut.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 13, 2011 07:32 PM (ENKCw)
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...but I ain't goin' down without a nasty fight. We've got to try and excise this virulent cancer from our midst. Quitting is not an option.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at April 13, 2011 07:27 PM (vbh31)
Yeah, but I'm damn tired of waiting to bloody some fucking noses. I want to see some gushing, mile high, arterial bleeds.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at April 13, 2011 07:27 PM (vbh31)
Yeah, but I'm damn tired of waiting to bloody some fucking noses. I want to see some gushing, mile high, arterial bleeds.
Posted by: Steph at April 13, 2011 07:32 PM (AkdC5)
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In fact, I say let them continue to pay their loyal, vote-casting parasites. In "dollars," a/k/a Imperial Magic Bean Credits. The rest of us can create our own private currency.
First they came for Chucky Cheese , then they came for Ottawahawk .
First they came for Chucky Cheese , then they came for Ottawahawk .
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at April 13, 2011 07:32 PM (npr0X)
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This is a blatant fuck you for thinking that we voters are in charge. Was this pushed by those R fucks in the House who were not targeted in primaries as payback for their fucking ass buddies who got beat in R primaries by conservatives? I would love to see every Tea Party Candidate say fuck you GOP, we are forming the Unaffiliated Party Caucus and don't ask us for dick unless you come with $1.5 trillion in cuts in one hand and a list of Rs in the leadership responsible for this trick fuck who have been punished severely. Honestly, I'd rather have the Ds back in charge so that when we have to rebuild the Republic at least the public would equate D Majorities in any chamber as toxic and unpatriotic.
Posted by: x11b1p at April 13, 2011 07:33 PM (nVLlM)
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Hey, AmishDude—did your wife run away with a lawyer
or something? I mean, you're 100% sensible 99% of the time, but you're
just fucking unreasonable about lawyers.
My wife is a prosecutor, and she fights the good fight just the same as you. Our side needs lawyers too.
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at April 13, 2011 07:19 PM (fjoLg)
It was in 2008, when we were told that Barack Obama, only by virtue of having graduated from law school, was a certified genius.Law school has no math.Law school has no dissertation.Law school has (almost) no foreign students.Nobody ever flunks out of law school (except Al Gore).
There are inanimate objects that have almost graduated from Yale due of their lack of grades.They have formed themselves into an oligarchy. Despite being an (entirely too large) 1% of the population, they are 1/3rd of the House of "Representatives", half of the Senate, all of the Judiciary and most of the executive branch. Look at Michelle Obama's job in Chicago -- lawyers are qualified for every job possible!It doesn't occur to them that they don't know everything about everything, they went to law school.
The last time a country had a perfumed, out-of-touch elite like this, they sent them to the guillotine.Lawyers are the KY jelly for corruption. You hire a lawyer to get around the law, not to enforce it. If the law were enforced properly, Lawyerbot 3000 could do all that you need. Why do you think Tom Hayden was so important to the Corleone family?
Having lawyers run government is a disaster because they don't operate like productive people. To a productive person, tedious unnecessary paperwork takes time from valuable labor. To a lawyer, tedious unnecessary paperwork is the whole point of the job -- they're paid by the hour.Don't blame me for hating lawyers, when drooling idiot graduates from journalism school look with fawning admiration toward lawyers as an intellectual elite (and, from their perspective, they're right), you can't blame me for the antipathy.
or something? I mean, you're 100% sensible 99% of the time, but you're
just fucking unreasonable about lawyers.
My wife is a prosecutor, and she fights the good fight just the same as you. Our side needs lawyers too.
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at April 13, 2011 07:19 PM (fjoLg)
It was in 2008, when we were told that Barack Obama, only by virtue of having graduated from law school, was a certified genius.Law school has no math.Law school has no dissertation.Law school has (almost) no foreign students.Nobody ever flunks out of law school (except Al Gore).
There are inanimate objects that have almost graduated from Yale due of their lack of grades.They have formed themselves into an oligarchy. Despite being an (entirely too large) 1% of the population, they are 1/3rd of the House of "Representatives", half of the Senate, all of the Judiciary and most of the executive branch. Look at Michelle Obama's job in Chicago -- lawyers are qualified for every job possible!It doesn't occur to them that they don't know everything about everything, they went to law school.
The last time a country had a perfumed, out-of-touch elite like this, they sent them to the guillotine.Lawyers are the KY jelly for corruption. You hire a lawyer to get around the law, not to enforce it. If the law were enforced properly, Lawyerbot 3000 could do all that you need. Why do you think Tom Hayden was so important to the Corleone family?
Having lawyers run government is a disaster because they don't operate like productive people. To a productive person, tedious unnecessary paperwork takes time from valuable labor. To a lawyer, tedious unnecessary paperwork is the whole point of the job -- they're paid by the hour.Don't blame me for hating lawyers, when drooling idiot graduates from journalism school look with fawning admiration toward lawyers as an intellectual elite (and, from their perspective, they're right), you can't blame me for the antipathy.
Posted by: AmishDude at April 13, 2011 07:34 PM (T0NGe)
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will the republican elitists ass rape the new 87 members of the house
Let's pray its the 87 freshman ass raping the elites.
Let's pray its the 87 freshman ass raping the elites.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at April 13, 2011 07:34 PM (cniXs)
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If the candidate of either party in 2016 is called Romulus Augustulus, I think we're just about done.
Posted by: George Orwell at April 13, 2011 07:34 PM (+vkOU)
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Oh, and I'll believe there is a Republican (or any politician) with
balls when they start openly talking about how Americans should just
stop paying their taxes.
That would be fun for a while, but I can guaran-ass-tee ya they won't be anywhere near our federal arraignments to back us up.
balls when they start openly talking about how Americans should just
stop paying their taxes.
That would be fun for a while, but I can guaran-ass-tee ya they won't be anywhere near our federal arraignments to back us up.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at April 13, 2011 07:34 PM (vbh31)
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Make that 'wink, nudge'...ugh
I kinda like "wing-nudge"...they pretend to be right wing, but they nudge the RATS and enable the looting of the peasantry.
I kinda like "wing-nudge"...they pretend to be right wing, but they nudge the RATS and enable the looting of the peasantry.
Posted by: USS Diversity at April 13, 2011 07:34 PM (gJNMj)
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The GOP knows the voters will never stand for austerity, even if the end is collapse.
You're probably right; that is indeed their thinking.
It makes no sense because they were voted for in the first place to make BIG cuts in spending. But all they want to do is please the center-left, the people who hate them.
The GOP knows the voters will never stand for austerity, even if the end is collapse.
You're probably right; that is indeed their thinking.
It makes no sense because they were voted for in the first place to make BIG cuts in spending. But all they want to do is please the center-left, the people who hate them.
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 13, 2011 07:35 PM (UQjUb)
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Here's a clue. Hal Rodgers Parkway used to be name Daniel Boone Parkway.
Theyshould have renamed ATM's instead.
I live right off of KY-80 and I voted for Rodgers opponent in November. Hell the only good thing about him is that Hal Rogers Parkway is a nice drive
Theyshould have renamed ATM's instead.
I live right off of KY-80 and I voted for Rodgers opponent in November. Hell the only good thing about him is that Hal Rogers Parkway is a nice drive
Posted by: hueydiamondpooty at April 13, 2011 07:35 PM (YhZFe)
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Question for you: How does that help our cause?
What the fuck are you talking about? Our cause is to get rid of everybody. And teach lessons. And use "primary" as a verb. And be, like, noble an' shit. Or something. Now get out of my bushes and go pre-pre-order my book.
What the fuck are you talking about? Our cause is to get rid of everybody. And teach lessons. And use "primary" as a verb. And be, like, noble an' shit. Or something. Now get out of my bushes and go pre-pre-order my book.
Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at April 13, 2011 07:36 PM (FYCiJ)
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The GOP. Party of stupid. Good lord they suck. I'm out of the party and going independent. Fuck it.
Posted by: CDR M at April 13, 2011 07:36 PM (5I8G0)
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It's like elections only have consequences for one of the parties.
Somewhere deep in my reptile brain I have to think that this is a ploy. That there is some larger 3D chess going on for our country's betterment.
Then I remember that asshole Stupak, and those fucking choads who made that possible.
Then, I lose all hope.
I hate politicians...
Somewhere deep in my reptile brain I have to think that this is a ploy. That there is some larger 3D chess going on for our country's betterment.
Then I remember that asshole Stupak, and those fucking choads who made that possible.
Then, I lose all hope.
I hate politicians...
Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at April 13, 2011 07:36 PM (iJYib)
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Not just Hal Rogers, but Boehner and Cantor have to go too. What a group of pathetic, bloody cowards.
Posted by: thirteen28 at April 13, 2011 07:36 PM (AbmsP)
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198: I'd rather see it go down on the Donk's watch. Both of the Beltway parties are to blame but the American people are so fucking dense that they still blame the party in power when shit goes bad so when the country is destroyed at least we take the fucking Marxists down for all of eternity.
Posted by: theadmiral at April 13, 2011 07:36 PM (lUdKU)
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The cut from a few big programs and agencies and that's it. They don't cut any departments, they don't cut foreign aid, they don't cut all of the bat shit taste test studies, they don't cut the farm subsidies, they don't cut the subsidies to giant corporations who don't need them, they won't consider scraping the tax system and replacing it with something even microscopically fair, they won't look at all of the redundancies on redundancies that pervades government. And then the fucking staff sizes of the congressmen themselves for cripes sakes.
The could literally cut a quarter of the governments budget and not cause a ripple in the cesspool that is Washington.
This just sucks and we are doing it to ourselves and allowing it to be done to us.
Obama gave it away in his speech yesterday when he said that "if we really do believe in creating the progressive society that we want". The motherfucker is out to destroy this country and it is his stated goal.
The cut from a few big programs and agencies and that's it. They don't cut any departments, they don't cut foreign aid, they don't cut all of the bat shit taste test studies, they don't cut the farm subsidies, they don't cut the subsidies to giant corporations who don't need them, they won't consider scraping the tax system and replacing it with something even microscopically fair, they won't look at all of the redundancies on redundancies that pervades government. And then the fucking staff sizes of the congressmen themselves for cripes sakes.
The could literally cut a quarter of the governments budget and not cause a ripple in the cesspool that is Washington.
This just sucks and we are doing it to ourselves and allowing it to be done to us.
Obama gave it away in his speech yesterday when he said that "if we really do believe in creating the progressive society that we want". The motherfucker is out to destroy this country and it is his stated goal.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 13, 2011 07:36 PM (jx2j9)
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Hey, anybody gonna finish raping me?
If you volunteer, it's not rape. And: no.
Fuckin' pervy robot.
If you volunteer, it's not rape. And: no.
Fuckin' pervy robot.
Posted by: fluffy at April 13, 2011 07:37 PM (SwkdU)
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I have to ask this: Mr. Ace of Spades, why are you freaking out so?
Maybe you aren't, and I'm just misreading it -- but it really seems like you're freaking out an awful lot lately.
Maybe you aren't, and I'm just misreading it -- but it really seems like you're freaking out an awful lot lately.
Posted by: unknown jane at April 13, 2011 07:37 PM (5/yRG)
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But I agree that, regardless of spending authority versus immediate savings, Hal Rogers has got to go. The sooner he stops walking all over everybody, the better.
Also have a few questions:
(1) When a program expires, what happens to the money? Does it go back into the system or do they just shove that money elsewhere?
(2) Anyone familiar with CBO scoring tactics?
Why are recissions, reserve funds, and mandatory spending cuts automatically excluded under budgetary scoring processes? Why does this also happen to anything that doesn't have immediate impact?
Also have a few questions:
(1) When a program expires, what happens to the money? Does it go back into the system or do they just shove that money elsewhere?
(2) Anyone familiar with CBO scoring tactics?
Why are recissions, reserve funds, and mandatory spending cuts automatically excluded under budgetary scoring processes? Why does this also happen to anything that doesn't have immediate impact?
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 07:38 PM (uVLrI)
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Yeah, but I'm damn tired of waiting to bloody some fucking noses. I want to see some gushing, mile high, arterial bleeds. Posted by: Steph at April 13, 2011 07:32 PM (AkdC5)
Would you like a cookie?We're hiring, by the way.
Would you like a cookie?We're hiring, by the way.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 13, 2011 07:38 PM (bxiXv)
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I half expect to find out that Ryan's budget plan actually increases spending instead of seriously curtails it.
Yes. It calls for spending over 20% of an implausibly grown GDP—and higher federal tax receipts than have ever been seen in American history. To do what with them? Class? What does the government do with your money? Right. Spend it.
Some people want to be boned by an accountant. I don't get it. It's a thing.
Yes. It calls for spending over 20% of an implausibly grown GDP—and higher federal tax receipts than have ever been seen in American history. To do what with them? Class? What does the government do with your money? Right. Spend it.
Some people want to be boned by an accountant. I don't get it. It's a thing.
Posted by: oblig. at April 13, 2011 07:38 PM (xvZW9)
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Over the cliff we go. Wheeeeeee!
Posted by: iowahawk at April 13, 2011 06:51 PM (veL4N)
Hands in the air for the whole ride, everyone!
Over the cliff we go. Wheeeeeee!
Posted by: iowahawk at April 13, 2011 06:51 PM (veL4N)
Hands in the air for the whole ride, everyone!
Posted by: That guy who says "Hands in the air!" at April 13, 2011 07:38 PM (QR9PP)
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Posting links on this blog is a pain in the ass, and I posted 3 over there, so I'll just post 1.
http://tinyurl.com/3pybh4l
I think it is quite illuminating, really. Buck up!Got a real stand up guy running on a tea party platform in Florida for 2012, and I think I even found Lindsay Graham's spine.
http://tinyurl.com/3pybh4l
I think it is quite illuminating, really. Buck up!Got a real stand up guy running on a tea party platform in Florida for 2012, and I think I even found Lindsay Graham's spine.
Posted by: Entropy at April 13, 2011 07:39 PM (SwWT6)
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O/T You know what's more irritating than Hannity playing Obama clips all the time?
Hannity playing the WRONG Obama clips all the time and having to listen to Teh Won's voice twice as necessary.
Hannity playing the WRONG Obama clips all the time and having to listen to Teh Won's voice twice as necessary.
Posted by: ErikW at April 13, 2011 07:39 PM (OgDRw)
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They had Nero, we got Toonces.
We need a photoshop of a kitteh with big ears playing a fiddle and Washington burning in the background.
We need a photoshop of a kitteh with big ears playing a fiddle and Washington burning in the background.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at April 13, 2011 07:39 PM (vbh31)
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Damn, after you suckers fell for it with the Obamacare accounting promises we knew we were in like Flint.
BTW anybody need a math tutor for their kids. I know some real nifty tricks.
BTW anybody need a math tutor for their kids. I know some real nifty tricks.
Posted by: P T Barnum at April 13, 2011 07:39 PM (pOC9r)
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214
It's like elections only have consequences for one of the parties.
Somewhere
deep in my reptile brain I have to think that this is a ploy. That
there is some larger 3D chess going on for our country's betterment.
Then I remember that asshole Stupak, and those fucking choads who made that possible.
Then, I lose all hope.
I hate politicians...
Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at April 13, 2011 07:36 PM (iJYib)
There's the problem...there is no 3D chess going on. The only thing these bastards care about is keeping their job and getting that nice fat paycheck and pension. They don't give two craps about you or me. We're just stupid taxpayers who keep sending them our money.
It's like elections only have consequences for one of the parties.
Somewhere
deep in my reptile brain I have to think that this is a ploy. That
there is some larger 3D chess going on for our country's betterment.
Then I remember that asshole Stupak, and those fucking choads who made that possible.
Then, I lose all hope.
I hate politicians...
Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at April 13, 2011 07:36 PM (iJYib)
There's the problem...there is no 3D chess going on. The only thing these bastards care about is keeping their job and getting that nice fat paycheck and pension. They don't give two craps about you or me. We're just stupid taxpayers who keep sending them our money.
Posted by: Geronimo at April 13, 2011 07:39 PM (KVI8B)
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holy shit, how did we not see this coming?
Enough talk about keeping our powder dry. I don't EVER want to hear that again.
brb...
holy shit, how did we not see this coming?
Enough talk about keeping our powder dry. I don't EVER want to hear that again.
brb...
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 13, 2011 07:40 PM (UQjUb)
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Little tease:
“There is nothing that I will not do to right this wrong,” Graham said. “I talked to the vice president. I made it clear to him that none of their nominees are going forward, that the squeaky wheel seems to get the oil. Well, nobody’s going forward in the Senate until we address this.”
Woh, Lindsay! Way to go to bat! Way to stick it to them and fight for us!
He wants $50k in pork.
“There is nothing that I will not do to right this wrong,” Graham said. “I talked to the vice president. I made it clear to him that none of their nominees are going forward, that the squeaky wheel seems to get the oil. Well, nobody’s going forward in the Senate until we address this.”
Woh, Lindsay! Way to go to bat! Way to stick it to them and fight for us!
He wants $50k in pork.
Posted by: Entropy at April 13, 2011 07:40 PM (SwWT6)
Posted by: Barbarian at April 13, 2011 07:40 PM (EL+OC)
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I am disheartened.
Posted by: toby928™ at April 13, 2011 07:40 PM (GTbGH)
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I have to ask this: Mr. Ace of Spades, why are you freaking out so?
Maybe you aren't, and I'm just misreading it -- but it really seems like you're freaking out an awful lot lately.
Posted by: unknown jane at April 13, 2011 07:37 PM (5/yRG)
Jane, not everyone is as self sufficient as you or I. Have you done any "sangin'" while out foraging? Here at the Boogie Southern Compound I know folks roundabouts that have done sangin' to raise a few bucks.
I have to ask this: Mr. Ace of Spades, why are you freaking out so?
Maybe you aren't, and I'm just misreading it -- but it really seems like you're freaking out an awful lot lately.
Posted by: unknown jane at April 13, 2011 07:37 PM (5/yRG)
Jane, not everyone is as self sufficient as you or I. Have you done any "sangin'" while out foraging? Here at the Boogie Southern Compound I know folks roundabouts that have done sangin' to raise a few bucks.
Posted by: That guy who says at April 13, 2011 07:41 PM (QR9PP)
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Does no one here or in the media understand the difference between obligational authority (AKA "appropriations"), obligations, and outlays? Congress grants obligational authority, not obligations or outlays.
Deficits/surplusses are the difference between revenues and outlays. Outlays lag obligations (oftenby years), and obligations lag obligational authority (usually by months). The "budget deal" pertains to obligational authority.
Does no one here or in the media understand the difference between obligational authority (AKA "appropriations"), obligations, and outlays? Congress grants obligational authority, not obligations or outlays.
Deficits/surplusses are the difference between revenues and outlays. Outlays lag obligations (oftenby years), and obligations lag obligational authority (usually by months). The "budget deal" pertains to obligational authority.
Posted by: ghostcat at April 13, 2011 07:41 PM (U2BT3)
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Enough talk about keeping our powder dry. I don't EVER want to hear that again.
Oh, hush up and keep that powder dry, honey.
Oh, hush up and keep that powder dry, honey.
Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at April 13, 2011 07:42 PM (FYCiJ)
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"To a fair degree, the lack of immediate budget-cutting punch is because
the budget year is more than half over and that cuts in new spending
authority typically are slow to register on deficit tallies."
^ This is a statement from the WaPo. I want a real, meaningful tally and not want CBO "believes".
the budget year is more than half over and that cuts in new spending
authority typically are slow to register on deficit tallies."
^ This is a statement from the WaPo. I want a real, meaningful tally and not want CBO "believes".
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 07:42 PM (uVLrI)
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For some reason the script always chops the sock back to some random length.
Posted by: K~Bob left on his dirty, dirty sock at April 13, 2011 07:42 PM (QR9PP)
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O/T You know what's more irritating than Hannity playing Obama clips all the time?
Hannity playing the WRONG Obama clips all the time and having to listen to Teh Won's voice twice as necessary.
Posted by: ErikW at April 13, 2011 07:39 PM (OgDRw)
WTF are listening to Hannity for? He's a RINO stool pusher. Fuck him and fuck the Fox PeRINO Network.
Hannity playing the WRONG Obama clips all the time and having to listen to Teh Won's voice twice as necessary.
Posted by: ErikW at April 13, 2011 07:39 PM (OgDRw)
WTF are listening to Hannity for? He's a RINO stool pusher. Fuck him and fuck the Fox PeRINO Network.
Posted by: Barbarian at April 13, 2011 07:42 PM (EL+OC)
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Does no one here or in the media understand the
difference between obligational authority (AKA "appropriations"),
obligations, and outlays? Congress grants obligational authority, not
obligations or outlays.Deficits/surplusses are the difference
between revenues and outlays. Outlays lag obligations (oftenby years),
and obligations lag obligational authority (usually by months). The
"budget deal" pertains to obligational authority.
Posted by: ghostcat at April 13, 2011 07:41 PM (U2BT3)
Huh?
difference between obligational authority (AKA "appropriations"),
obligations, and outlays? Congress grants obligational authority, not
obligations or outlays.Deficits/surplusses are the difference
between revenues and outlays. Outlays lag obligations (oftenby years),
and obligations lag obligational authority (usually by months). The
"budget deal" pertains to obligational authority.
Posted by: ghostcat at April 13, 2011 07:41 PM (U2BT3)
Huh?
Posted by: Tami at April 13, 2011 07:42 PM (VuLos)
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TRILLIONs of dollars in debt? Fuck you, poor optics.
$50,000.00 for start up the feasibility studies and such for my next big corrupt business hand out? I WILL SHUT THIS PLACE DOWN!
$50,000.00 for start up the feasibility studies and such for my next big corrupt business hand out? I WILL SHUT THIS PLACE DOWN!
Posted by: Entropy at April 13, 2011 07:43 PM (SwWT6)
Posted by: Kensington at April 13, 2011 07:43 PM (mEyVv)
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What's the over/under on Our Savior West voting for this POS?
Allen West? Ruling Class cocksucking RINO. I told you people and told you and told you and told you but you just WOULDN'T LISTEN.
What's the over/under on Our Savior West voting for this POS?
Allen West? Ruling Class cocksucking RINO. I told you people and told you and told you and told you but you just WOULDN'T LISTEN.
Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at April 13, 2011 07:43 PM (FYCiJ)
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We're hiring, by the way.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 13, 2011 07:38 PM (bxiXv)
If blood shooting out of my eyes is one of therequisite skills, I'm highly qualified.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 13, 2011 07:38 PM (bxiXv)
If blood shooting out of my eyes is one of therequisite skills, I'm highly qualified.
Posted by: Steph, Sith apprentice on bended knee at April 13, 2011 07:43 PM (AkdC5)
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They had Nero, we got Toonces.
Frankly, I'd take Caligula's near-consul horse, Incitatus, over the Indonesian horse's ass we have now. Incitatus was a member of the Roman Senate, so he's even more qualified than the Indonesian Imbecile.
Frankly, I'd take Caligula's near-consul horse, Incitatus, over the Indonesian horse's ass we have now. Incitatus was a member of the Roman Senate, so he's even more qualified than the Indonesian Imbecile.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 13, 2011 07:43 PM (G/MYk)
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Here's a clue. Hal Rodgers Parkway used to be name Daniel Boone Parkway.
Theyshould have renamed ATM's instead.
I live right off of KY-80 and I voted for Rodgers opponent in November. Hell the only good thing about him is that Hal Rogers Parkway is a nice drive
Dad is from Blue Diamond (Hazard). Did you get stuck behind that big truck haulinga 12 ton solid block of coal on the way to Mount Rushmore?
Theyshould have renamed ATM's instead.
I live right off of KY-80 and I voted for Rodgers opponent in November. Hell the only good thing about him is that Hal Rogers Parkway is a nice drive
Dad is from Blue Diamond (Hazard). Did you get stuck behind that big truck haulinga 12 ton solid block of coal on the way to Mount Rushmore?
Posted by: Wink Dinkelman at April 13, 2011 07:43 PM (j/Hny)
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Look on the bright side. We still have Cowboy Poetry in Nevada. Yeehaaa!!!
Posted by: Turd Ferguson at April 13, 2011 07:43 PM (6yyVB)
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234 Does no one here or in the media understand the difference between
obligational authority (AKA "appropriations"), obligations, and outlays?
Congress grants obligational authority, not obligations or outlays.Deficits/surplusses
are the difference between revenues and outlays. Outlays lag
obligations (oftenby years), and obligations lag obligational authority
(usually by months). The "budget deal" pertains to obligational
authority.
So how does that change this picture?
obligational authority (AKA "appropriations"), obligations, and outlays?
Congress grants obligational authority, not obligations or outlays.Deficits/surplusses
are the difference between revenues and outlays. Outlays lag
obligations (oftenby years), and obligations lag obligational authority
(usually by months). The "budget deal" pertains to obligational
authority.
So how does that change this picture?
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 07:43 PM (uVLrI)
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Does no one here or in the media understand the
difference between obligational authority (AKA "appropriations"),
obligations, and outlays? Congress grants obligational authority, not
obligations or outlays.
Classic lawyer talk.
Does no one here or in the media understand the
difference between obligational authority (AKA "appropriations"),
obligations, and outlays? Congress grants obligational authority, not
obligations or outlays.
Classic lawyer talk.
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at April 13, 2011 07:43 PM (ZHsNw)
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I am not surprised. They're all the same. Every time we vote, it doesn't actually do anything.
Throw them all out. Exile them. Burn their homes so they cannot return. Piss in their bathwater. All that.
Start anew with more stringent restrictions upon the government and tell the hangers on and bleeders to go fuck themselves. If they don't like it, they can move to Mexico or one of those Eurpoean countries which is now figuring out that, hey... socialism really doesn't work!
Throw them all out. Exile them. Burn their homes so they cannot return. Piss in their bathwater. All that.
Start anew with more stringent restrictions upon the government and tell the hangers on and bleeders to go fuck themselves. If they don't like it, they can move to Mexico or one of those Eurpoean countries which is now figuring out that, hey... socialism really doesn't work!
Posted by: soulpile is.. expendable at April 13, 2011 07:43 PM (gH+Hj)
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Well folks, I hate to be the first one to say it, but it's time to start drinking on an empty stomach.
Like you weren't doing that already, what with all the prosperity O-Dumbfuck has brought you.
Like you weren't doing that already, what with all the prosperity O-Dumbfuck has brought you.
Posted by: K~Bob took off his dirty, dirty sock at April 13, 2011 07:44 PM (QR9PP)
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Frankly,
I'd take Caligula's near-consul horse, Incitatus, over the Indonesian
horse's ass we have now. Incitatus was a member of the Roman Senate, so
he's even more qualified than the Indonesian Imbecile.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 13, 2011 07:43 PM (G/MYk)
Hell, he'd be better than the current Prezzzzzzzzident of the Senate.
I'd take Caligula's near-consul horse, Incitatus, over the Indonesian
horse's ass we have now. Incitatus was a member of the Roman Senate, so
he's even more qualified than the Indonesian Imbecile.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 13, 2011 07:43 PM (G/MYk)
Hell, he'd be better than the current Prezzzzzzzzident of the Senate.
Posted by: AmishDude at April 13, 2011 07:45 PM (T0NGe)
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(2) Anyone familiar with CBO scoring tactics? Why are recissions, reserve funds, and mandatory spending cuts automatically excluded under budgetary scoring processes? Why does this also happen to anything that doesn't have immediate impact?
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 07:38 PM (uVLrI)
The CBO scored this on how it would affect the deficit this year. So if the money doesn't go out the door in september but October it doesn't affect this years deficit. It will affect next years.
Mandatory spending is spending already athorized under previous legislation like Pell grants. There is a certain amount of money that is mandatory that it go to that department each year whether they spend it that year or not. If they didn't spend it they keep it and spend it next year. For instance you could get a pell grant in September but your tuition wouldn't be due until December, they would pay that out of last years funds.
The CBO only scored it on what checks would be written by sept. 30.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 07:38 PM (uVLrI)
The CBO scored this on how it would affect the deficit this year. So if the money doesn't go out the door in september but October it doesn't affect this years deficit. It will affect next years.
Mandatory spending is spending already athorized under previous legislation like Pell grants. There is a certain amount of money that is mandatory that it go to that department each year whether they spend it that year or not. If they didn't spend it they keep it and spend it next year. For instance you could get a pell grant in September but your tuition wouldn't be due until December, they would pay that out of last years funds.
The CBO only scored it on what checks would be written by sept. 30.
Posted by: robtr at April 13, 2011 07:45 PM (MtwBb)
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I might as well start shitting in my pants because I just no longer see the point in putting in the effort to go all the way to the bathroom.
Posted by: Spliff Menendez at April 13, 2011 07:46 PM (NHlhT)
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If there's a spending cut at all, it sure as hell isn't in discretionary spending.
FY2010 discretionary spending outlays(via the CBO)- $1,347 billionFY2011 discretionary spending outlays (via the CBO)- $1,365 billion
I may be but a public-school graduate, but the last I checked, $1,365 billion was higher than $1,347 billion, not less.
FY2010 discretionary spending outlays(via the CBO)- $1,347 billionFY2011 discretionary spending outlays (via the CBO)- $1,365 billion
I may be but a public-school graduate, but the last I checked, $1,365 billion was higher than $1,347 billion, not less.
Posted by: steveegg at April 13, 2011 07:46 PM (o44nj)
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Here's a clue. Hal Rodgers Parkway used to be name Daniel Boone Parkway.
Theyshould have renamed ATM's instead.
I'll have a little "Hal Rogers," Please
Here's a clue. Hal Rodgers Parkway used to be name Daniel Boone Parkway.
Theyshould have renamed ATM's instead.
I'll have a little "Hal Rogers," Please
Posted by: Client No. 9 at April 13, 2011 07:47 PM (QR9PP)
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Hey, AmishDude—did your wife run away with a lawyer
or something? I mean, you're 100% sensible 99% of the time, but you're
just fucking unreasonable about lawyers.
My wife is a prosecutor, and she fights the good fight just the same as you. Our side needs lawyers too.
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at April 13, 2011 07:19 PM (fjoLg)
Hey, I hate lawyers too! Don't forget me!
The purpose of a lawyer is to facilitate the transfer of all wealth from the rest of the world to lawyers. This is done by creating an unnavigable maze of laws, regulations, and rules, and requiring you to hire them to navigate it. You pay them more than any other tradesman, and if you don't you suffer fees, penalties, and then get sued on top of it all.
My Dad's a lawyer. He *hates* lawyers.
Hey, AmishDude—did your wife run away with a lawyer
or something? I mean, you're 100% sensible 99% of the time, but you're
just fucking unreasonable about lawyers.
My wife is a prosecutor, and she fights the good fight just the same as you. Our side needs lawyers too.
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at April 13, 2011 07:19 PM (fjoLg)
Hey, I hate lawyers too! Don't forget me!
The purpose of a lawyer is to facilitate the transfer of all wealth from the rest of the world to lawyers. This is done by creating an unnavigable maze of laws, regulations, and rules, and requiring you to hire them to navigate it. You pay them more than any other tradesman, and if you don't you suffer fees, penalties, and then get sued on top of it all.
My Dad's a lawyer. He *hates* lawyers.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 13, 2011 07:47 PM (bxiXv)
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Tami
Somewhat shorter version: The deficit is based on outlays. The reduction in outlays from the recent budget deal (which reduces obligations, not outlays)will occur over years.
Tami
Somewhat shorter version: The deficit is based on outlays. The reduction in outlays from the recent budget deal (which reduces obligations, not outlays)will occur over years.
Posted by: ghostcat at April 13, 2011 07:47 PM (U2BT3)
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252The CBO scored this on how it would affect the deficit
this year. So if the money doesn't go out the door in september but
October it doesn't affect this years deficit. It will affect next years.
Mandatory spending is spending already athorized under
previous legislation like Pell grants. There is a certain amount of
money that is mandatory that it go to that department each year whether
they spend it that year or not. If they didn't spend it they keep it and
spend it next year. For instance you could get a pell grant in
September but your tuition wouldn't be due until December, they would
pay that out of last years funds.
The CBO only scored it on what checks would be written
by sept. 30.
Which is what I thought, but it changes this picture from what is being reported. Immediate savings are also not equal to actual cuts.
this year. So if the money doesn't go out the door in september but
October it doesn't affect this years deficit. It will affect next years.
Mandatory spending is spending already athorized under
previous legislation like Pell grants. There is a certain amount of
money that is mandatory that it go to that department each year whether
they spend it that year or not. If they didn't spend it they keep it and
spend it next year. For instance you could get a pell grant in
September but your tuition wouldn't be due until December, they would
pay that out of last years funds.
The CBO only scored it on what checks would be written
by sept. 30.
Which is what I thought, but it changes this picture from what is being reported. Immediate savings are also not equal to actual cuts.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 07:47 PM (uVLrI)
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You know what I'd love to see? The GOP take a page from antiquity and use Sibylline negotiating tactics.
GOP: We want 100 billion in cuts.
Dems: No way, too much.
GOP: Alright. How about 110 billion?
Dems: Wait, what?
GOP: 120 billion.
Dems: You're crazy.
GOP: 130 billion.
GOP: We want 100 billion in cuts.
Dems: No way, too much.
GOP: Alright. How about 110 billion?
Dems: Wait, what?
GOP: 120 billion.
Dems: You're crazy.
GOP: 130 billion.
Posted by: Chris at April 13, 2011 07:47 PM (GT1x2)
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Play us off, keyboard cat...
Posted by: Kensington at April 13, 2011 07:48 PM (mEyVv)
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I'm voting democrat. I want it to fucking BLEEEEEEEEEEED!!!!
I want to see the piq squeel and writhe as the maggots maggotsgorge onits pustulent flesh.
I want to see the piq squeel and writhe as the maggots maggotsgorge onits pustulent flesh.
Posted by: Max Power at April 13, 2011 07:48 PM (q177U)
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WTF are listening to Hannity for? He's a RINO stool pusher. Fuck him and fuck the Fox PeRINO Network.
Posted by: Barbarian at April 13, 2011 07:42 PM (EL+OC)
Yeah, I know. I guess I like him because he seems to be a genuinely regular guy, albeit naive as hell.
That and local AM programming kinda sucks around here.
Posted by: Barbarian at April 13, 2011 07:42 PM (EL+OC)
Yeah, I know. I guess I like him because he seems to be a genuinely regular guy, albeit naive as hell.
That and local AM programming kinda sucks around here.
Posted by: ErikW at April 13, 2011 07:48 PM (OgDRw)
Posted by: Marie at April 13, 2011 07:48 PM (W7Seu)
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A Confederation of Fools. It would be accurate.
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I may be but a public-school graduate, but the last I checked, $1,365 billion was higher than $1,347 billion, not less.
Posted by: steveegg at April 13, 2011 07:46 PM (o44nj)
You just don't have those highfalutin' business school skills.
Posted by: steveegg at April 13, 2011 07:46 PM (o44nj)
You just don't have those highfalutin' business school skills.
Posted by: Steph, Sith apprentice on bended knee at April 13, 2011 07:50 PM (AkdC5)
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GOP Whip Kevin McCarthy of California:
"Our Speaker negotiated, outnumbered 3-1"
Don't you SEE? How GOOD he did against such ODDS?
There is gonna be a BIG tea party soon. The sweeping has just begun. Its gonna be a long haul, but giving up is... giving up.
Liberty or Death. I'm goin down swingin.
"Our Speaker negotiated, outnumbered 3-1"
Don't you SEE? How GOOD he did against such ODDS?
There is gonna be a BIG tea party soon. The sweeping has just begun. Its gonna be a long haul, but giving up is... giving up.
Liberty or Death. I'm goin down swingin.
Posted by: PHenry at April 13, 2011 07:50 PM (oOXkS)
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So do we fight to take this country back, or all move to Belize or wherever and kinda start from scratch like our great ancestors once did?
Posted by: MostlyRight at April 13, 2011 07:50 PM (LaqL2)
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Here's the thing, if we could trust these guys, this wouldn't be such a bad thing. The better strategy is to fight at the time of the debt limit. That's where we're on solid ground electorally.
But they've screwed us too often, we don't trust any long-term plans.
But they've screwed us too often, we don't trust any long-term plans.
Posted by: AmishDude at April 13, 2011 07:50 PM (T0NGe)
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Classic lawyer talk.
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at April 13, 2011 07:43 PM (ZHsNw)
Dazzle them with bullshit.
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at April 13, 2011 07:43 PM (ZHsNw)
Dazzle them with bullshit.
Posted by: Radiant at April 13, 2011 07:50 PM (dQdrY)
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If blood shooting out of my eyes is one of the requisite skills, I'm highly qualified. Posted by: Steph, Sith apprentice on bended knee at April 13, 2011 07:43 PM (AkdC5)
Can you make blood shoot out of other people's eyes? That would be more useful.When you shoot blood out of your eyes, does it blind people and make then run in circles and scream?Maybe that's what happened to the Honey Badger last night.
Can you make blood shoot out of other people's eyes? That would be more useful.When you shoot blood out of your eyes, does it blind people and make then run in circles and scream?Maybe that's what happened to the Honey Badger last night.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 13, 2011 07:50 PM (bxiXv)
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My Father in law uses that tactic to sell property. It works every freaking time he has to deal with a real estate putz.
Posted by: K~Bob at April 13, 2011 07:51 PM (QR9PP)
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That and local AM programming kinda sucks around here.
Posted by: ErikW at April 13, 2011 07:48 PM (OgDRw)
If you live in the Seattle area you are forgiven because nothing sucks worse than AM radio in Seattle. LOL
Posted by: ErikW at April 13, 2011 07:48 PM (OgDRw)
If you live in the Seattle area you are forgiven because nothing sucks worse than AM radio in Seattle. LOL
Posted by: Barbarian at April 13, 2011 07:51 PM (EL+OC)
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Radiant
It may sound like Greek but it's not bullshit. It's how the federal financial system works.
Radiant
It may sound like Greek but it's not bullshit. It's how the federal financial system works.
Posted by: ghostcat at April 13, 2011 07:52 PM (U2BT3)
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It makes no sense because they were voted for in the
first place to make BIG cuts in spending. But all they want to do is
please the center-left, the people who hate them.
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 13, 2011 07:35 PM (UQjUb)
They were voted in more to repeal ObamaCare, which they continue to refuse to do. They wouldn't attach that repeal to any of the CRs, nor to the budget, nor to the debt-limit bill to come (which they have pre-emptively collapsed on).(Now, I can wait for my ObamaCare thread stalker to come and try to make some snide retarded remark about the stupidity of attaching ObamaCare repeal to anything ...)
first place to make BIG cuts in spending. But all they want to do is
please the center-left, the people who hate them.
Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at April 13, 2011 07:35 PM (UQjUb)
They were voted in more to repeal ObamaCare, which they continue to refuse to do. They wouldn't attach that repeal to any of the CRs, nor to the budget, nor to the debt-limit bill to come (which they have pre-emptively collapsed on).(Now, I can wait for my ObamaCare thread stalker to come and try to make some snide retarded remark about the stupidity of attaching ObamaCare repeal to anything ...)
Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 13, 2011 07:52 PM (G/MYk)
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The sock provacateurs are out in force tonight. Heh.
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at April 13, 2011 07:53 PM (vbh31)
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Don't blame Boehner. Dear Leader gave him a WH pass for MoTown night if Boehner would juststop allthe saving-the-country crap. I mean, really.
Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2011 07:53 PM (5FMhB)
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I agree with Ace - ***k it.
Posted by: Radar at April 13, 2011 07:53 PM (8xYyJ)
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Where's that Honey Badger. I'm gonna hold it down and pop one in it's squeakhole.
Posted by: The Electorate Entire at April 13, 2011 07:53 PM (QR9PP)
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This is petty, but...
Told you so.
Told you so. Told you so. Told you so. Told you so. Told you so. Told you so.
Told you so.
Told you so. Told you so. Told you so. Told you so. Told you so. Told you so.
Posted by: AD at April 13, 2011 07:54 PM (4b8Gq)
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So how does that change this picture?
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 07:43 PM (uVLrI)
It's like the $1.5 Billion cut in High Speed Rail. Obama wanted 8 Billion. None of that money was going to be spent this year so there is no credit on the deficit for this year for the $1.5 Billion.
Next year when the money would have gone out will be $1.5 Billion less.
What the republicans did was cut from authorised spending for this year. That doesn't mean the money would have been spent this year though. The deficit is the amount of checks we write this year and the CBO is only counting that.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 07:43 PM (uVLrI)
It's like the $1.5 Billion cut in High Speed Rail. Obama wanted 8 Billion. None of that money was going to be spent this year so there is no credit on the deficit for this year for the $1.5 Billion.
Next year when the money would have gone out will be $1.5 Billion less.
What the republicans did was cut from authorised spending for this year. That doesn't mean the money would have been spent this year though. The deficit is the amount of checks we write this year and the CBO is only counting that.
Posted by: robtr at April 13, 2011 07:54 PM (MtwBb)
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"GOP: We want 100 billion in cuts.
Dems: No way, too much.
GOP: Alright. How about 110 billion?
Dems: Wait, what?
GOP: 120 billion.
Dems: You're crazy.
GOP: 130 billion."
That is my idea of how to conduct the FY 2012 budget negotiation, about every time the House effort gets rejected by the Senate or vetoed by OBummer.
ALL THE WAY to a Government shutdown, and into election season.
"GOP: We want 100 billion in cuts.
Dems: No way, too much.
GOP: Alright. How about 110 billion?
Dems: Wait, what?
GOP: 120 billion.
Dems: You're crazy.
GOP: 130 billion."
That is my idea of how to conduct the FY 2012 budget negotiation, about every time the House effort gets rejected by the Senate or vetoed by OBummer.
ALL THE WAY to a Government shutdown, and into election season.
Posted by: jwb7605 at April 13, 2011 07:55 PM (Qxe/p)
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I say we just confiscate all the wealth in the country, and spend it all on hookers and blow. An 8 ball and blow job every week for every man, woman and child in the US, until we run out. Then it's Mad Max time.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at April 13, 2011 07:56 PM (ZGhSU)
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Can you make blood shoot out of other people's eyes? That would be more useful.
When you shoot blood out of your eyes, does it blind people and make then run in circles and scream?
Maybe that's what happened to the Honey Badger last night.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 13, 2011 07:50 PM (bxiXv)
Oh, you just don't know. I'm one scary ass bitch when I'm angry. I've been known to make big ass, grown men cower in fear. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry. And, right now, I'm really, really angry.
When you shoot blood out of your eyes, does it blind people and make then run in circles and scream?
Maybe that's what happened to the Honey Badger last night.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 13, 2011 07:50 PM (bxiXv)
Oh, you just don't know. I'm one scary ass bitch when I'm angry. I've been known to make big ass, grown men cower in fear. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry. And, right now, I'm really, really angry.
Posted by: Steph, Sith apprentice on bended knee at April 13, 2011 07:56 PM (AkdC5)
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You just don't have those highfalutin' business school skills.
Posted by: Steph, Sith apprentice on bended knee at April 13, 2011 07:50 PM (AkdC5)
I'll run it by my CFO co-blogger.
Posted by: Steph, Sith apprentice on bended knee at April 13, 2011 07:50 PM (AkdC5)
I'll run it by my CFO co-blogger.
Posted by: steveegg at April 13, 2011 07:56 PM (o44nj)
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Now, I can wait for my ObamaCare thread stalker to come and try to make some snide retarded remark about the stupidity of attaching ObamaCare repeal to anything ...)
Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 13, 2011 07:52 PM (G/MYk)
They already voted to repeal Obamacare and sent it to the senate.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 13, 2011 07:52 PM (G/MYk)
They already voted to repeal Obamacare and sent it to the senate.
Posted by: robtr at April 13, 2011 07:56 PM (MtwBb)
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Boehner likes to cry. I can see it now. My size 11 up his ass, him crying like a baby.
Posted by: gus at April 13, 2011 07:57 PM (Vqruj)
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i'm wondering , are all these guys being blackmailed?
i just don't know what to think so my mind is going wild here.
i just don't know what to think so my mind is going wild here.
Posted by: mfm willow at April 13, 2011 07:57 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: John Boner at April 13, 2011 07:57 PM (mEyVv)
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i'm wondering , are all these guys being blackmailed?
i just don't know what to think so my mind is going wild here.
It's simple: they're in on the scam.
i just don't know what to think so my mind is going wild here.
It's simple: they're in on the scam.
Posted by: Farmer Joe at April 13, 2011 07:58 PM (ZGhSU)
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Fuck getting small. You know, it's just time to get blind.
Posted by: Drink The Bad Corn Likker at April 13, 2011 07:58 PM (QR9PP)
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What are our Options!!!!!!
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That's $1.14 per person in the 2010 Census. Draconian.
Well, the next time I get a fundraising letter from the NRCC, I know how much to send them.
That's $1.14 per person in the 2010 Census. Draconian.
Well, the next time I get a fundraising letter from the NRCC, I know how much to send them.
Posted by: chemjeff at April 13, 2011 07:59 PM (czcue)
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You know who this helps? Mi...oh f*ck it. Even I can't do this anymore.
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at April 13, 2011 07:59 PM (mEyVv)
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robt
Close enough for government work! (Couldn't resist.)
What the republicans did was reduce the amount of money the Executive Branch can obligate ... commit to, via various forms of contracts and grants ... in the current Fiscal Year. Outlays ... checks written ... against such contracts and grants always lag the obligations/commitments, often by several years.
robt
Close enough for government work! (Couldn't resist.)
What the republicans did was reduce the amount of money the Executive Branch can obligate ... commit to, via various forms of contracts and grants ... in the current Fiscal Year. Outlays ... checks written ... against such contracts and grants always lag the obligations/commitments, often by several years.
Posted by: ghostcat at April 13, 2011 07:59 PM (U2BT3)
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i need to drink alot more, it's said i'll become smarter.
Posted by: mfm willow at April 13, 2011 08:00 PM (h+qn8)
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Farmer Joe, that's the saddest thing I've read. we have no power, it's all fake isn't it. our vote is bllcht, they just do as they're told when they get there.
Posted by: mfm willow at April 13, 2011 08:01 PM (h+qn8)
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So how much did they cut from obligations?
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 08:02 PM (uVLrI)
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against such contracts and grants always lag the obligations/commitments, often by several years.
Posted by: ghostcat at April 13, 2011 07:59 PM (U2BT3)
Right, but the CBO scored it on what money would be actually spent this year. It's apples and oranges.
Posted by: ghostcat at April 13, 2011 07:59 PM (U2BT3)
Right, but the CBO scored it on what money would be actually spent this year. It's apples and oranges.
Posted by: robtr at April 13, 2011 08:03 PM (MtwBb)
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You'd cry too if your name was BONER and Obama owned you.
Posted by: gus at April 13, 2011 08:04 PM (Vqruj)
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By the way, Ace, there is no such term as "actual spending" in the federal financial lexicon. It's all obligational authority, obligations, and outlays. All the way down.
Posted by: ghostcat at April 13, 2011 08:05 PM (U2BT3)
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They already voted to repeal Obamacare and sent it to the senate.
Posted by: robtr at April 13, 2011 07:56 PM (MtwBb)
Yes, I know. I talked about attaching the repeal to the CRs, or budget, or debt-limit. You know, serious attempts.
Posted by: robtr at April 13, 2011 07:56 PM (MtwBb)
Yes, I know. I talked about attaching the repeal to the CRs, or budget, or debt-limit. You know, serious attempts.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 13, 2011 08:06 PM (G/MYk)
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What are our Options!!!!!!
Posted by: mfm willow at April 13, 2011 07:58 PM (h+qn
Tonight, drinking hard liquor on an empty stomach.
Tomorrow, do all the shzt Glenn Beck has been talking about (other than his bizarre posturing and love for that weasel, Huntsman, Jr.). Build up your own self-reliance.
What are our Options!!!!!!
Posted by: mfm willow at April 13, 2011 07:58 PM (h+qn
Tonight, drinking hard liquor on an empty stomach.
Tomorrow, do all the shzt Glenn Beck has been talking about (other than his bizarre posturing and love for that weasel, Huntsman, Jr.). Build up your own self-reliance.
Posted by: K~Bob at April 13, 2011 08:06 PM (QR9PP)
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Farmer Joe, that's the saddest thing I've read. we have no power, it's all fake isn't it. our vote is bllcht, they just do as they're told when they get there.
Posted by: mfm willow at April 13, 2011 08:01 PM (h+qn
Our homey Hastings:
http://tinyurl.com/3rpxr6q
Posted by: mfm willow at April 13, 2011 08:01 PM (h+qn
Our homey Hastings:
http://tinyurl.com/3rpxr6q
Posted by: ErikW at April 13, 2011 08:06 PM (OgDRw)
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laughing
my country tis of thee , sweet land of liberty of thee i sing..sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing; land where my fathers died, land of the pilgrims' pride, from every mountainside let Freedon ring.
do kids sing that anymore?
weeeeeeeeeeeeeee
my country tis of thee , sweet land of liberty of thee i sing..sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing; land where my fathers died, land of the pilgrims' pride, from every mountainside let Freedon ring.
do kids sing that anymore?
weeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Posted by: mfm willow at April 13, 2011 08:06 PM (h+qn8)
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Booger just posted this on the other thread.
Boehner just released this
Posted by: booger at April 13, 2011 08:03 PM (9RFH1)
Boehner just released this
Posted by: booger at April 13, 2011 08:03 PM (9RFH1)
Posted by: Tami at April 13, 2011 08:07 PM (VuLos)
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robt
Totally agree. Apples and oranges. With an Ugli or two thrown in.
That's why Ace's (and Rush's. And Levin's. Etc.) hysterics are so off the wall. They know not what they do, and are playing into the Dem's hands.
robt
Totally agree. Apples and oranges. With an Ugli or two thrown in.
That's why Ace's (and Rush's. And Levin's. Etc.) hysterics are so off the wall. They know not what they do, and are playing into the Dem's hands.
Posted by: ghostcat at April 13, 2011 08:08 PM (U2BT3)
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Boehner on Hannity now, tape delayed.
Posted by: ErikW at April 13, 2011 08:08 PM (OgDRw)
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Oh, you just don't know. I'm one scary ass bitch when I'm angry. I've been known to make big ass, grown men cower in fear. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry. And, right now, I'm really, really angry. Posted by: Steph, Sith apprentice on bended knee at April 13, 2011 07:56 PM (AkdC5)
Hired.
Hired.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 13, 2011 08:09 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Whatever! at April 13, 2011 08:09 PM (piMMO)
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from Boogers article cuts in bill
and will result in $315 billion worth of savings over the next decade
and will result in $315 billion worth of savings over the next decade
Posted by: mfm willow at April 13, 2011 08:09 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Soap MacTavish at April 13, 2011 08:10 PM (vbh31)
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Boehner on Hannity now, tape delayed.
Posted by: ErikW at April 13, 2011 08:08 PM (OgDRw)
Why you might care, I don't know.
Posted by: ErikW at April 13, 2011 08:08 PM (OgDRw)
Why you might care, I don't know.
Posted by: ErikW at April 13, 2011 08:10 PM (OgDRw)
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Then I remember that asshole Stupak, and those fucking choads who made that possible.and since Stewie is hanging out with Planned Parenthood, these daze, can we all NOW refer to all those little busted up skeletons, as having been STUPAKED.
to much?
to much?
Posted by: pitchforksandpowder at April 13, 2011 08:10 PM (GStPL)
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I can't believe I'm asking this but, here goes.What has Rand
said about this?
He's thinking about filibustering but he hasn't committed himself to it yet.
I can't believe I'm asking this but, here goes.What has Rand
said about this?
He's thinking about filibustering but he hasn't committed himself to it yet.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 08:10 PM (uVLrI)
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Booger just posted this on the other thread. Boehner just releasedthis
Posted by: booger at April 13, 2011 08:03 PM (9RFH1)
Posted by: Tami at April 13, 2011 08:07 PM (VuLos)
You should delete that post. Ace and a bunch of the commenters are getting their rightous rage on and ready to vote for the peace party.
You shouldn't try to stop them with actual facts or anything.
Posted by: booger at April 13, 2011 08:03 PM (9RFH1)
Posted by: Tami at April 13, 2011 08:07 PM (VuLos)
You should delete that post. Ace and a bunch of the commenters are getting their rightous rage on and ready to vote for the peace party.
You shouldn't try to stop them with actual facts or anything.
Posted by: robtr at April 13, 2011 08:11 PM (MtwBb)
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Boehner just releasedthis
Posted by: booger at April 13, 2011 08:03 PM (9RFH1)
Posted by: Tami at April 13, 2011 08:07 PM (VuLos)
Hmmmmm. Could Ace be wrong? Could the "bipartisan" CBO be blowing smoke up our asses just to get us pissed off at repubs?
Posted by: booger at April 13, 2011 08:03 PM (9RFH1)
Posted by: Tami at April 13, 2011 08:07 PM (VuLos)
Hmmmmm. Could Ace be wrong? Could the "bipartisan" CBO be blowing smoke up our asses just to get us pissed off at repubs?
Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2011 08:16 PM (5FMhB)
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The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) confirms that the spending cut agreement on the House floor tomorrow will cut spending by nearly $40 billion – or $78.5 billion less than President Obama proposed in his FY 2011 budget. These are real cuts and will result in $315 billion worth of savings over the next decade.
The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) confirms that the spending cut agreement on the House floor tomorrow will cut spending by nearly $40 billion – or $78.5 billion less than President Obama proposed in his FY 2011 budget. These are real cuts and will result in $315 billion worth of savings over the next decade.
Posted by: mfm willow at April 13, 2011 08:16 PM (h+qn8)
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My senator's comments on Obama's speech.
Posted by: Whatever! at April 13, 2011 08:18 PM (piMMO)
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I thought I understood this-- though it was awhile ago that I took classes dealing with this-- but I'm not entirely sure what was done wrong here. Money was shifted, which they always do that, but we're dealing with a fiscal year that's over sooner rather than later. Also not sure why the media is selling this the way they are. CBO scoring is also strange to me because they seem to make all this harder than it ought to be.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 08:18 PM (uVLrI)
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Is six feet of rope too inflammatory?
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at April 13, 2011 06:56 PM (6IReR)
Allahpundit only chided me for, "Hang them by their necks until they're dead." He said, 'I know you're only joking, but... " No, I'm not!
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at April 13, 2011 06:56 PM (6IReR)
Allahpundit only chided me for, "Hang them by their necks until they're dead." He said, 'I know you're only joking, but... " No, I'm not!
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 13, 2011 08:20 PM (mHQ7T)
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F*** it all. Shut it down. Burn it down. The hell with it all.
2012? Who cares?
Couldn't have said it better myself
2012? Who cares?
Couldn't have said it better myself
Posted by: brak at April 13, 2011 08:22 PM (nIoiW)
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233 Well thank you for the snarky, assholish response.
Here's the way I look at it; the options if you will:
1) primary the people in out -- that could work, or it could blow up in everyone's faces: I really don't think a Congress full of Christine O'Donnells is going to help, but if you throw in Trump as president it could make for some serious entertainment (yes, the trouble I see is people falling for whoever says the right things, at least enough people to sway an election); besides, even if you did get the very best and most patriotic people out there it could still not work (or not work as quickly as everybody wants, and then what?)
2) third party -- but honestly I'm not sure that's really workable (see above)
3) revolution, secession!!!! Ok, ok, tree of liberty and all that,but people could wind up in a helluva lot worse shape on the other side of one of those (revolutions usually don't end well, just ask the French or the Russians or even the Germans when they decided tossing the decrepit Weimar Republic, ask a few million Africans for that matter) --and secession...yeah, like the country is just going to voluntarily break apart all peacefully and shit, hahahhaa
4) massive protests -- could work, but then again firsthint of violence (even manufactured) we could have martial law declared, and then we are at #3 or the screws really get tightened down (ask the old Soviet bloc countries about how that worked), which usually doesn't end well, so it would have to be played pretty cool (which I'm not sure people are going to be capable of at this point)
5) default -- ah forget it, nobody likes that option
6) sit tight and see how this plays out
And the outlying unknown here is: a big enough terrorist attack or natural, non-man caused disaster and even the best roadmap out of this mess goes belly up along with the economy, and then the whole global house of cards goes "poof" too (which kinda makes running off to another country not such a viable option either, unless you can live in a gated community and hire your own private security firm...and evne then you never know).
Now, that's pretty grim...but freaking about it really isn't going to help one damn bit, not one. In fact, it might be playing right into the hands of the Dems (I'm beginning to believe this more and more). They want you to get really, really upset. I would advise not giving it to them.
Anyway, those are what I see as the end game options -- pick one.
Here's the way I look at it; the options if you will:
1) primary the people in out -- that could work, or it could blow up in everyone's faces: I really don't think a Congress full of Christine O'Donnells is going to help, but if you throw in Trump as president it could make for some serious entertainment (yes, the trouble I see is people falling for whoever says the right things, at least enough people to sway an election); besides, even if you did get the very best and most patriotic people out there it could still not work (or not work as quickly as everybody wants, and then what?)
2) third party -- but honestly I'm not sure that's really workable (see above)
3) revolution, secession!!!! Ok, ok, tree of liberty and all that,but people could wind up in a helluva lot worse shape on the other side of one of those (revolutions usually don't end well, just ask the French or the Russians or even the Germans when they decided tossing the decrepit Weimar Republic, ask a few million Africans for that matter) --and secession...yeah, like the country is just going to voluntarily break apart all peacefully and shit, hahahhaa
4) massive protests -- could work, but then again firsthint of violence (even manufactured) we could have martial law declared, and then we are at #3 or the screws really get tightened down (ask the old Soviet bloc countries about how that worked), which usually doesn't end well, so it would have to be played pretty cool (which I'm not sure people are going to be capable of at this point)
5) default -- ah forget it, nobody likes that option
6) sit tight and see how this plays out
And the outlying unknown here is: a big enough terrorist attack or natural, non-man caused disaster and even the best roadmap out of this mess goes belly up along with the economy, and then the whole global house of cards goes "poof" too (which kinda makes running off to another country not such a viable option either, unless you can live in a gated community and hire your own private security firm...and evne then you never know).
Now, that's pretty grim...but freaking about it really isn't going to help one damn bit, not one. In fact, it might be playing right into the hands of the Dems (I'm beginning to believe this more and more). They want you to get really, really upset. I would advise not giving it to them.
Anyway, those are what I see as the end game options -- pick one.
Posted by: unknown jane at April 13, 2011 08:31 PM (5/yRG)
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Miss'80sBaby
was wondering whatI would do, without you around, puttin some knowlege to us...i see you've decided not to take a few days off.. *thanks for all you do*
was wondering whatI would do, without you around, puttin some knowlege to us...i see you've decided not to take a few days off.. *thanks for all you do*
Posted by: pitchforksandpowder at April 13, 2011 08:33 PM (GStPL)
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Screw this shit, I'm done, it is time to leave. Who wants to join me?
Posted by: The Great State of Florida at April 13, 2011 08:34 PM (KUjSN)
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Who cares? It's going to take a systemic crash of the welfare system in the West for anything to change, and if the Republicans hold power, the hole we dig out of won't be quite as deep. It's still worthwhile to have them in power, but nothing is going to change until the credit markets impose reality upon us.
Posted by: Spike at April 13, 2011 08:37 PM (WLxeI)
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@12: "On the plus side, max out your credit cards, the Yellowstone caldera is even bigger than previously thought!"
How big is thought?
How big is thought?
Posted by: James Taranto at April 13, 2011 08:39 PM (xy9wk)
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316 Boehner just releasedthis
Posted by: booger at April 13, 2011 08:03 PM (9RFH1)
Posted by: Tami at April 13, 2011 08:07 PM (VuLos)
Hmmmmm. Could Ace be wrong? Could the "bipartisan" CBO be blowing smoke up our asses just to get us pissed off at repubs?
Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2011 08:16 PM (5FMhB)
Anyone who is reading Boehner's latest propaganda at the link... stop for a moment.
Set down the fact that we all want to believe that there is some kernel of hope for a moment. It's okay, you can pick it back up later if you choose to.
Before you go back to reading Boehner's release, keep 2 things firmly fixed in your mind:
1. He is using factcheck.org to support his argument. Yes, the same factcheck.org that has been repeatedly discredited for being left leaning and ignoring facts that do not fit their conclusions.
2. Boehner's release repeatedly cites what they have allegedly cut, compounded over 10 years. This is a budget that ends in Sept. 2011. Even if their numbers are correct, it is patently false to claim that a budget that expires in 5 months will compound over 10 years.
Now, go ahead and read the release with an objective eye and tell me if it holds any water.
Posted by: booger at April 13, 2011 08:03 PM (9RFH1)
Posted by: Tami at April 13, 2011 08:07 PM (VuLos)
Hmmmmm. Could Ace be wrong? Could the "bipartisan" CBO be blowing smoke up our asses just to get us pissed off at repubs?
Posted by: Soona at April 13, 2011 08:16 PM (5FMhB)
Anyone who is reading Boehner's latest propaganda at the link... stop for a moment.
Set down the fact that we all want to believe that there is some kernel of hope for a moment. It's okay, you can pick it back up later if you choose to.
Before you go back to reading Boehner's release, keep 2 things firmly fixed in your mind:
1. He is using factcheck.org to support his argument. Yes, the same factcheck.org that has been repeatedly discredited for being left leaning and ignoring facts that do not fit their conclusions.
2. Boehner's release repeatedly cites what they have allegedly cut, compounded over 10 years. This is a budget that ends in Sept. 2011. Even if their numbers are correct, it is patently false to claim that a budget that expires in 5 months will compound over 10 years.
Now, go ahead and read the release with an objective eye and tell me if it holds any water.
Posted by: Damiano at April 13, 2011 08:39 PM (3nrx7)
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WHAT DOES IT WILL LIKE TO BE ABANDONED BY YOUR PARENTS. Thats how I feel with this deal the GOP cut. I have been a GOP member since I registered to vote. But, they have let me down. They are democrat lite, to me. The biggest thing is were do you go from here. If the GOP elects one of the old guard to represnt us then were screwed. BHO, will get every liberal, union,minority vote. If we go with a gunslinger; like Rick Santoriem, then we're screwed; no independents and no regean/neo-conservative/bush dems. START LEARNING CHINESE
Posted by: John Musser at April 13, 2011 08:47 PM (Qbs3S)
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324 Miss'80sBaby
was wondering whatI would do, without you around, puttin some
knowlege to us...i see you've decided not to take a few days
off.. *thanks for all you do*
Thank you for the compliment.
was wondering whatI would do, without you around, puttin some
knowlege to us...i see you've decided not to take a few days
off.. *thanks for all you do*
Thank you for the compliment.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 13, 2011 08:50 PM (uVLrI)
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All of you who have your panties in a twist over this: you are being played.
Given the "sanctity" of existing contractual agreements, there is no way in hell that federalOUTLAYS could be cut by $100 billionfor the current fiscal year.
Could. Not. Legally. Be. Done.
The game is necessarily about limitingnewcontractual obligations in FY2011, thereby limiting outlays pursuant to those contracts in future years. Anybody who tells you otherwise is either uninformed or playing you.
All of you who have your panties in a twist over this: you are being played.
Given the "sanctity" of existing contractual agreements, there is no way in hell that federalOUTLAYS could be cut by $100 billionfor the current fiscal year.
Could. Not. Legally. Be. Done.
The game is necessarily about limitingnewcontractual obligations in FY2011, thereby limiting outlays pursuant to those contracts in future years. Anybody who tells you otherwise is either uninformed or playing you.
Posted by: ghostcat at April 13, 2011 09:00 PM (U2BT3)
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@19: "I had the naive belief that the only way to stop these cocksuckers is a
national taxpayer strike. Now I am convinced even that wouldn't stop
them; they are completely unmoored from corporeal reality, and nothing -
absolutely nothing - will stop them from spending."
I know something that would work....
national taxpayer strike. Now I am convinced even that wouldn't stop
them; they are completely unmoored from corporeal reality, and nothing -
absolutely nothing - will stop them from spending."
I know something that would work....
Posted by: Arnaud Amalric at April 13, 2011 09:00 PM (xy9wk)
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I'm afraid it's too late for a third party option. The problems we're facing won't be solved by voting.
Posted by: Bugler at April 13, 2011 09:00 PM (VXBR1)
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@23: "Is six feet of rope too inflammatory?"
Yes; it offers far too quick a release. Piano wire and meathooks enhance the experience so much more.
Yes; it offers far too quick a release. Piano wire and meathooks enhance the experience so much more.
Posted by: Arnaud Amalric at April 13, 2011 09:04 PM (xy9wk)
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Ah Ace, just when I think it's safe to hold you in contempt, you come out with a heater.
Welcome to the party pal!
Welcome to the party pal!
Posted by: Blacksmith8 at April 13, 2011 09:07 PM (Q1qy3)
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I read AoS because Ace is funny. So I like him.
That's why it pains me to see so much thought and so many words put into this when it could all be explained once and then everyone would understand.
They're all stealing from us.
They're all stealing our freedoms and destroying everything good.
They just use different faces to do it.
Hey, I like the puppet on the left...no, no, no the puppet on the right is more to my liking.
Change is no longer available at the ballot box. Pixels aren't going to solve the problem either.
Action is now required.
That's why it pains me to see so much thought and so many words put into this when it could all be explained once and then everyone would understand.
They're all stealing from us.
They're all stealing our freedoms and destroying everything good.
They just use different faces to do it.
Hey, I like the puppet on the left...no, no, no the puppet on the right is more to my liking.
Change is no longer available at the ballot box. Pixels aren't going to solve the problem either.
Action is now required.
Posted by: Oh, Hi Mark at April 13, 2011 09:07 PM (DoTwI)
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RINOS have no pointy horns,
And RINOS never charge,
For they have the thinnest skin,
Of any beasts that large.
And RINOS never charge,
For they have the thinnest skin,
Of any beasts that large.
Posted by: cackfinger at April 13, 2011 09:08 PM (HpG1y)
Posted by: Steph, Sith apprentice on bended knee at April 13, 2011 09:09 PM (AkdC5)
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We are the Irish locked in the steerage of the Titanic while the pols sip champers and wait for their turn in the boats. Enjoy kids.
Posted by: R. Sherman at April 13, 2011 09:09 PM (aMXGk)
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Hal Rodgers has to resign? Hell, boner has to resign. Maybe Cantor as well.
Posted by: proreason at April 13, 2011 09:11 PM (+8dSJ)
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Arriving home from work earlier, I just caught the tail end of some audio excerpt of Obie saying, "...we have to live within our means..."
What a fucking hypocritical piece of shit.
What a fucking hypocritical piece of shit.
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at April 13, 2011 09:15 PM (AB8DI)
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All that's left now is the fall and the finger pointing
Posted by: Shiggz at April 13, 2011 09:18 PM (mLAWK)
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@174: "Personally, I've made the turn and am now playing the back nine on life's golf course."
Given what's to come, an awful lot of people can probably say that now. Most of them don't know it yet, but that won't change the outcome.
Given what's to come, an awful lot of people can probably say that now. Most of them don't know it yet, but that won't change the outcome.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at April 13, 2011 09:18 PM (xy9wk)
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@198: "When the GOP is in power, if nothing else, it means the Dems aren't. And that can at least buy some additional time, even if only to go down, like the band on the Titanic, with some semblance of dignity."
Now there's one hell of a campaign slogan!
Now there's one hell of a campaign slogan!
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at April 13, 2011 09:21 PM (xy9wk)
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@205: "Law school has (almost) no foreign students.Nobody ever flunks out of law school (except Al Gore)."
And our resident taxpayer supported half-wit drags out his two favorite lines of bullshit:
1. Law schools have relatively few foreign students for a simple reason: they don't teach foreign law. Unless a foreigner wants to work in a law-related field in the US, or work back home as an expert in US law, there is no reason for them to come here.
2. Yeah, no one ever flunks out at all. There are schools that cut the entire bottom third of the class at the end of One L. I guess those folks would be happy to know that the schools were just kidding.
And while you're on about how great math is, take a wild guess about who fucked up the economy with all those new investment strategies. A bunch of math and hard science majors in the big Wall Street firms coming up with utterly shitbrained schemes.
And our resident taxpayer supported half-wit drags out his two favorite lines of bullshit:
1. Law schools have relatively few foreign students for a simple reason: they don't teach foreign law. Unless a foreigner wants to work in a law-related field in the US, or work back home as an expert in US law, there is no reason for them to come here.
2. Yeah, no one ever flunks out at all. There are schools that cut the entire bottom third of the class at the end of One L. I guess those folks would be happy to know that the schools were just kidding.
And while you're on about how great math is, take a wild guess about who fucked up the economy with all those new investment strategies. A bunch of math and hard science majors in the big Wall Street firms coming up with utterly shitbrained schemes.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at April 13, 2011 09:28 PM (xy9wk)
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342 LOL, you know what the DIs say about pointing that finger, right?
Posted by: unknown jane at April 13, 2011 09:32 PM (5/yRG)
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" What a fucking hypocritical piece of shit."
Try to understand the thought processes of your enemy.
Hypocrisy as a charge only applies to non leftists because non-leftists are the ones wrapped up in a cloak of backward "values" and the antiquated ideals of western imperialist god bothering "morality".
Leftists belong to the new age of historically inevitable social progress towards the future egalitarian utopia. Thus they have no obligation whatsoever to avoid hypocrisy or falsehood. They have no use for suck standards of behavior and see them as weapons of their enemies.
They view their own hypocrisy and deception as simple enlightened pragmatism, the true nature of which, is incomprehensible to the limited minds of their misguided or dupe critics. Their understanding that hypocrisy is not shameful is what separates them from those enslaved lesser minds that are unfit to lead the revolution.
Anything that theoretically advances the aims of the revolution is revolutionarily true even if it is not demonstrably or logically true.
Logic and even empiricism itself are merely tricks the old fat-cat masters used to bind the minds of their servants to make them more submissive to slavery . Such tricks are the bloody tools that anti-revolutionary forces use to repress the masses through conditioning and control of the language.
Anything that retards the aims of the revolution is a product of the the false consciousness that is like a shackle that binds the arms of the workers and keeps them from winning their collective freedom and natural brotherhood.
If grey needs to be purple to benefit the revolution then grey IS purple and those who see grey must be blinded or made to fear the anti-revolutionary act of revealing that they see grey and not purple. This is because they are under the control of anti-revolutionary forces that keep them from seeing the purple that would benefit the revolution.
That's how these fuckers reason. Like snakes. They see only the target and ignore, discredit, or kill anything that blocks their view of the target or might distract them from the target.
Try to understand the thought processes of your enemy.
Hypocrisy as a charge only applies to non leftists because non-leftists are the ones wrapped up in a cloak of backward "values" and the antiquated ideals of western imperialist god bothering "morality".
Leftists belong to the new age of historically inevitable social progress towards the future egalitarian utopia. Thus they have no obligation whatsoever to avoid hypocrisy or falsehood. They have no use for suck standards of behavior and see them as weapons of their enemies.
They view their own hypocrisy and deception as simple enlightened pragmatism, the true nature of which, is incomprehensible to the limited minds of their misguided or dupe critics. Their understanding that hypocrisy is not shameful is what separates them from those enslaved lesser minds that are unfit to lead the revolution.
Anything that theoretically advances the aims of the revolution is revolutionarily true even if it is not demonstrably or logically true.
Logic and even empiricism itself are merely tricks the old fat-cat masters used to bind the minds of their servants to make them more submissive to slavery . Such tricks are the bloody tools that anti-revolutionary forces use to repress the masses through conditioning and control of the language.
Anything that retards the aims of the revolution is a product of the the false consciousness that is like a shackle that binds the arms of the workers and keeps them from winning their collective freedom and natural brotherhood.
If grey needs to be purple to benefit the revolution then grey IS purple and those who see grey must be blinded or made to fear the anti-revolutionary act of revealing that they see grey and not purple. This is because they are under the control of anti-revolutionary forces that keep them from seeing the purple that would benefit the revolution.
That's how these fuckers reason. Like snakes. They see only the target and ignore, discredit, or kill anything that blocks their view of the target or might distract them from the target.
Posted by: cackfinger at April 13, 2011 09:38 PM (HpG1y)
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Posted by: Escarpins pas cher at April 13, 2011 09:45 PM (VD+oS)
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If you're really pissed and want to kick Establishment ass in both parties, the choice is clearly Sarah Palin. Nothing would piss them off more than the base rejecting their decrees that she is unelectable and putting a Rogue Conservative in the drivers seat.
Posted by: DaMav at April 13, 2011 09:47 PM (QNU76)
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The penultimate tragedy of 9/11 was that the one plane that didn't make its target was the one headed for the Capitol.
With apologies, Crew Beamer staying in their seats in exchange for sparing any of the other three would have been a no-brainer in the poker game with the Fates.
With apologies, Crew Beamer staying in their seats in exchange for sparing any of the other three would have been a no-brainer in the poker game with the Fates.
Posted by: BuddyPC at April 13, 2011 09:49 PM (N/Bgb)
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And while you're on about how great math is, take a wild guess about who fucked up the economy with all those new investment strategies. A bunch of math and hard science majors in the big Wall Street firms coming up with utterly shitbrained schemes.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at April 13, 2011 09:28 PM (xy9wk)
Sorry, but I'm going to have to go with millions of deadbeats walking away from their obligations, along with almost as many "activists" and bureaucrats making it culturally acceptable.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at April 13, 2011 09:28 PM (xy9wk)
Sorry, but I'm going to have to go with millions of deadbeats walking away from their obligations, along with almost as many "activists" and bureaucrats making it culturally acceptable.
Posted by: BuddyPC at April 13, 2011 09:52 PM (N/Bgb)
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ace:
Where do I pick up my pitchfork? Evidently, nobody in Washington will understand anything less. Honestly, something has to be done.
I expect a rollcall posted alongside your links to other blogs that shows exactly who voted for this monstrosity and who was wise enough to vote against it. Not one thin damned dime will ever grace the campaign coffers of any coward who votes in favor of this sell out.
Where do I pick up my pitchfork? Evidently, nobody in Washington will understand anything less. Honestly, something has to be done.
I expect a rollcall posted alongside your links to other blogs that shows exactly who voted for this monstrosity and who was wise enough to vote against it. Not one thin damned dime will ever grace the campaign coffers of any coward who votes in favor of this sell out.
Posted by: slackmac at April 13, 2011 09:59 PM (MiOtx)
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I urge you to have a permanent, front-page, always-on, list of the spineless congressmen who voted to accept the 350 million dollar "cuts" (which of course is not even cuts because we will spend more than the year before!) UGHHH!
Please make sure that every damned one of them is held accountable!
Please make sure that every damned one of them is held accountable!
Posted by: slackmac at April 13, 2011 10:03 PM (MiOtx)
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"Sorry, but I'm going to have to go with millions of deadbeats walking
away from their obligations, along with almost as many "activists" and
bureaucrats making it culturally acceptable."
Oh, it was that, too.
The CRA, Fannie and Freddie, etc., piled up the kindling.
But the "quants" in the financial sector doused it with gasoline.
Almost everyone was to blame - except for the non-deadbeat homeowners who did everything right but got screwed anyway.
We turned an extra tenth of the population into (nominal) homeowners over the course of about 20 years. We then created a bubble based on the delusion that the value of their (and everyone else's) homes would go up 10% or more each year, forever. No one wanted to kill the goose ... but eventually it choked on its own fat.
No One Is Innocent.
away from their obligations, along with almost as many "activists" and
bureaucrats making it culturally acceptable."
Oh, it was that, too.
The CRA, Fannie and Freddie, etc., piled up the kindling.
But the "quants" in the financial sector doused it with gasoline.
Almost everyone was to blame - except for the non-deadbeat homeowners who did everything right but got screwed anyway.
We turned an extra tenth of the population into (nominal) homeowners over the course of about 20 years. We then created a bubble based on the delusion that the value of their (and everyone else's) homes would go up 10% or more each year, forever. No one wanted to kill the goose ... but eventually it choked on its own fat.
No One Is Innocent.
Posted by: Knemon at April 13, 2011 10:11 PM (nsxc+)
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By Jove, I think that jolly old chap Ace is starting to get it.
Posted by: Rollory at April 13, 2011 10:15 PM (RutCd)
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Kudos to WSJ:in January, they warned against Boehner supporting big-spending Hal Rogers in Appropriations,.
Posted by: DieTrying at April 13, 2011 10:21 PM (+6REq)
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Ghostcat,
Great. But the Repubs promised to cut spending by 100 billion from 2010 levels. If the term spending doesn't have any governmental meaning then what did they promise?
They all can go to hell for all I care. The thieving bastards.
Great. But the Repubs promised to cut spending by 100 billion from 2010 levels. If the term spending doesn't have any governmental meaning then what did they promise?
They all can go to hell for all I care. The thieving bastards.
Posted by: Dr. Heinz Doofensmirtz at April 13, 2011 10:24 PM (jtrzE)
357
331
All of you who have your panties in a twist over this: you are being played....Could. Not. Legally. Be. Done.
Bullshit.
Laws. Can. Be. Repealed.
It's a feature of our bicameral legislature. There is NO LAW that is passed by Congress which cannot be repealed. Period.
They were supposed to do what we sent them to do. They did not, and are using the rule of thumb that you are thinking is actually Constitutional limits and making the same mistake as you are.
In short, no, they are lying and you are the one being played.
All of you who have your panties in a twist over this: you are being played....Could. Not. Legally. Be. Done.
Bullshit.
Laws. Can. Be. Repealed.
It's a feature of our bicameral legislature. There is NO LAW that is passed by Congress which cannot be repealed. Period.
They were supposed to do what we sent them to do. They did not, and are using the rule of thumb that you are thinking is actually Constitutional limits and making the same mistake as you are.
In short, no, they are lying and you are the one being played.
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at April 13, 2011 10:26 PM (odfEr)
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Posted by: The Great State of Florida at April 13, 2011 08:34 PM (KUjSN)
We're in!
Screw this shit, I'm done, it is time to leave. Who wants to join me?
Posted by: The Great State of Florida at April 13, 2011 08:34 PM (KUjSN)
We're in!
Posted by: The Great Besieged State of Arizona at April 13, 2011 10:35 PM (DRR4t)
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I saw on David Asman's show on Fox Biz that 1 Trillion of Barry's "cuts" are the old debunked "savings" from ObamaCare.
When I think of how the mountain of regulations, taxes, bureaucratic legislative authority and bureaucratic sloth, it's like looking at the Rockies, hoping to level them with a teaspoon.
Bone-age, anyone?
When I think of how the mountain of regulations, taxes, bureaucratic legislative authority and bureaucratic sloth, it's like looking at the Rockies, hoping to level them with a teaspoon.
Bone-age, anyone?
Posted by: The Great Besieged State of Arizona at April 13, 2011 10:42 PM (DRR4t)
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I hope you're not turning into one of those crazy extremists, like that awful Jeff Goldstein, Ace. I thought this was polite and genteel, yet demented company.
Can't we all just get along?
Can't we all just get along?
Posted by: Pablo at April 13, 2011 10:57 PM (1fuCG)
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Im actually sad that Ace and all you others thought this would actually work and bought into the fairy tail.
Sorry Ace but gettin played is what they teach in firstterm DC 101.
Sorry Ace but gettin played is what they teach in firstterm DC 101.
Posted by: Rich K at April 13, 2011 11:08 PM (X4l3T)
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Well ghostcat, what did the repubs promise when they promise to cut spending?
Posted by: Dr. Heinz Doofensmirtz at April 13, 2011 11:19 PM (jtrzE)
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Like most of the commenters here I am bitterly disappointed, too, but I'm not giving up just yet. I'm going all in on Paul Ryan. Holding out hope that somehow, some way, someone convinces him to run for President. And somehow, some way, he upends President Fuckwad McDouchenozzle in 2012. And somehow, some way, he can drag us kicking and screaming towards solvency.
So yeah, Paul Ryan. I'm all in.
So yeah, Paul Ryan. I'm all in.
Posted by: Killface at April 13, 2011 11:27 PM (7lAxC)
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A RINO's nose is soft and bends
To sense the shifting of the winds.
They insist they will win races
Stumbling about with measured paces.
To sense the shifting of the winds.
They insist they will win races
Stumbling about with measured paces.
Posted by: cackfinger at April 13, 2011 11:31 PM (HpG1y)
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$352 Million?GODFUCKINGDAMNITALLTOTHEBOWELSOFBLOODYHELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Stagwargatia at April 13, 2011 11:38 PM (9AHcT)
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Heinie -
The only stage of federal funding that the Legislaturecontrols is obligational authority ... permission forthe Executive to make contractualcommitmentsup to a certain dollar level. Outlays ... actual payments ... pursuant to those contracts are established by the terms of each contract. (I'm using "contract" rather loosely here.) The deficit is strictly arevenue-minus-outlay matter,and is affected by the obligational authority only in the long run. The lag can be months to years.
Heinie -
The only stage of federal funding that the Legislaturecontrols is obligational authority ... permission forthe Executive to make contractualcommitmentsup to a certain dollar level. Outlays ... actual payments ... pursuant to those contracts are established by the terms of each contract. (I'm using "contract" rather loosely here.) The deficit is strictly arevenue-minus-outlay matter,and is affected by the obligational authority only in the long run. The lag can be months to years.
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All of you who have your panties in a twist over this: you are being played....Could. Not. Legally. Be. Done.
Bullshit.
Laws. Can. Be. Repealed.
Yeah. I love how the people who write the laws complain about being bound by them.
Until they violate them, and then they're totally fucking exempt.
Almost as rich as when they fuck up their taxes, and then complain how complicated the tax laws are.
WHO THE HELL WRITES THEM THAT WAY?
Bullshit.
Laws. Can. Be. Repealed.
Yeah. I love how the people who write the laws complain about being bound by them.
Until they violate them, and then they're totally fucking exempt.
Almost as rich as when they fuck up their taxes, and then complain how complicated the tax laws are.
WHO THE HELL WRITES THEM THAT WAY?
Posted by: Entropy at April 14, 2011 12:25 AM (SwWT6)
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Procedural obscurantism.
Posted by: Entropy at April 14, 2011 12:26 AM (SwWT6)
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Kudos to WSJ:in January, they warned against Boehner supporting big-spending Hal Rogers in Appropriations,.
Wait wait wait. Wait.
Wait.
Wait.
Wait.
None of this is Boehners fault! It's all that nasty blackguard Hal Rogers. He stabbed Boehner in the back. Just because he's the leader doesn't mean you can blaim him for insubordinate subordinates!How could poor Boehner have known?
You're telling me Boehner's support put the dude in there?
Wait.
Wait.
Wait.
It'll come to me.
Just wait.
Wait wait wait. Wait.
Wait.
Wait.
Wait.
None of this is Boehners fault! It's all that nasty blackguard Hal Rogers. He stabbed Boehner in the back. Just because he's the leader doesn't mean you can blaim him for insubordinate subordinates!How could poor Boehner have known?
You're telling me Boehner's support put the dude in there?
Wait.
Wait.
Wait.
It'll come to me.
Just wait.
Posted by: Entropy at April 14, 2011 12:32 AM (SwWT6)
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And while you're on about how great math is, take a wild guess about who fucked up the economy with all those new investment strategies. A bunch of math and hard science majors in the big Wall Street firms coming up with utterly shitbrained schemes.
Right... Wallstreet is chock full of physicists and nary a lawyer in sight.
Right... Wallstreet is chock full of physicists and nary a lawyer in sight.
Posted by: Entropy at April 14, 2011 12:37 AM (SwWT6)
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I am starting to think Trump is the guy. Not only does he know how to make profits, he knows how to liquidate his losses and move on.
Trump/Busey 2012
Trump/Busey 2012
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Posted by: John Galt at April 14, 2011 01:49 AM (XGTye)
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Inspector Dipshitz -
Congress can change a law, yes
Ok, hey thanks for the personal attack and insult.
Sorry, if Congress is making contracts with vendors for periods extending beyond that Congress's Term (2 years) then, Constitutionally, those contracts are not valid after the next Congress is voted in. That's why multi-year contracts must continually be called back up in committee and reviewed during each term of Congress- but it is a usurpation of the Will of the Governed for a rule allowing a former Congress the ability to limit the power of the next Congress. It's fundamentally contrary to our system of Government. (Article 1 Section
But, they have a trick to get around that Constitutional limit. It's not a contract. It'what we've been yelling about- Mandatory expenditures and programs.
Mandatory (Medicade, etc) programs have, in their enabling legislation the trick of avoiding being put on an appropriations bill by mandating by law the funding once. That isn't a contract, and is not covered under the UCC or any contract law.
It is law itself, and can and should be repealed. At least, the "mandatory" funding part - and by passing that repeal, Congress itself cannot be sued or charged. Hell, Constitutionally, it would be completely legal for CongressmanBarney Frankto stab anyone he wants with a katanain the aisles of the House if he was on his way to vote. Or play Tetris like a fiend, or whatever those dingbats do all day in there. So the idea they are bound or likely to be punished is false - Constitutionally.
But, the Federal Government is fatally broken so I wouldn't be surprised if the Congressional herd is so out of touch with the concepts of our Federal Republic that they don't realize any of this.
Anyway, a mandatory program's funding is not actually "mandatory". It's there for convenience, but a Congress can choose to either repeal that section of the enabling legislation or it can get some balls and state, "Article 1 Section 1 vests each Congress with certain powers which cannot be shared with another body; Article 1 Section 8 clearly outlines the limits of the power of the purse to each Congress in turn. Thus, any argument that the 101st Congress can tie the hands and usurp the vested power of the 112th Congress is false. Each "mandatory" program passed by a prior Congress shall be re-authorized by each Congress as it Wills."
And there is nothing anyone can do in that case.
Inspector Dipshitz -
Congress can change a law, yes
Ok, hey thanks for the personal attack and insult.
Sorry, if Congress is making contracts with vendors for periods extending beyond that Congress's Term (2 years) then, Constitutionally, those contracts are not valid after the next Congress is voted in. That's why multi-year contracts must continually be called back up in committee and reviewed during each term of Congress- but it is a usurpation of the Will of the Governed for a rule allowing a former Congress the ability to limit the power of the next Congress. It's fundamentally contrary to our system of Government. (Article 1 Section
But, they have a trick to get around that Constitutional limit. It's not a contract. It'what we've been yelling about- Mandatory expenditures and programs.
Mandatory (Medicade, etc) programs have, in their enabling legislation the trick of avoiding being put on an appropriations bill by mandating by law the funding once. That isn't a contract, and is not covered under the UCC or any contract law.
It is law itself, and can and should be repealed. At least, the "mandatory" funding part - and by passing that repeal, Congress itself cannot be sued or charged. Hell, Constitutionally, it would be completely legal for CongressmanBarney Frankto stab anyone he wants with a katanain the aisles of the House if he was on his way to vote. Or play Tetris like a fiend, or whatever those dingbats do all day in there. So the idea they are bound or likely to be punished is false - Constitutionally.
But, the Federal Government is fatally broken so I wouldn't be surprised if the Congressional herd is so out of touch with the concepts of our Federal Republic that they don't realize any of this.
Anyway, a mandatory program's funding is not actually "mandatory". It's there for convenience, but a Congress can choose to either repeal that section of the enabling legislation or it can get some balls and state, "Article 1 Section 1 vests each Congress with certain powers which cannot be shared with another body; Article 1 Section 8 clearly outlines the limits of the power of the purse to each Congress in turn. Thus, any argument that the 101st Congress can tie the hands and usurp the vested power of the 112th Congress is false. Each "mandatory" program passed by a prior Congress shall be re-authorized by each Congress as it Wills."
And there is nothing anyone can do in that case.
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#282 is spot on. Hookers and blow(before it's too late)
Oh, good, at least I'm not the only moron advocating the Charlie Sheen Lifestyle™.
I guess this really points up the need for the government (all of them) to abide by the Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP) before actually tackling budget issues.
As my dear ol' dad used to say, numbers don't lie but liars can figure.
#282 is spot on. Hookers and blow(before it's too late)
Oh, good, at least I'm not the only moron advocating the Charlie Sheen Lifestyle™.
I guess this really points up the need for the government (all of them) to abide by the Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP) before actually tackling budget issues.
As my dear ol' dad used to say, numbers don't lie but liars can figure.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at April 14, 2011 09:08 AM (1hM1d)
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Look, IT IS OVER! So get over IT. This economic condition can only get fixed in one possible way....a complete reboot of the system. Saving or cutting from the budget the equivalent of a stick of chewing gum to you and me does not solve any problems or balance anything!. I say spend, spend, spend! The quicker this economy crashes the quicker we can remake America. I don't want a long agonizing wait for this. Let's Git-R-Dun!
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