Um: Half of Republican Caucus, Especially Leadership and Old Guard, Votes With Democrats To Block Additional $22 Billion in Cuts

This, I guess, is the new $22 billion needed to get the cuts up to the promised $100 billion, and they blocked it.

More than half of the Republican conference backed the measure in opposition to two party chiefs, Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) and Whip Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), who voted with every Democrat against it. Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) did not vote, as is traditional for Speakers.
The party’s fourth-ranking member, Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-Texas), supported the measure, as did dozens of Republican freshman. Yet there was division even among the first-term, Tea Party-backed lawmakers. Rep. Kristi Noem (R-S.D.), an elected freshman representative on the leadership team, opposed the bill, while Rep. Austin Scott (R-Ga.), the freshman class president, supported it.
Like no previous proposal, the heated debate over the amendment drew a bright line through the GOP conference, pitting conservatives pushing the deepest spending cuts against senior Republicans who denounced them as “misguided,” “indiscriminate” and, in the case of Rep. Daniel Lungren (R-Calif.), “lazy.”
Republican committee chairmen like Lungren, Appropriations chief Hal Rogers (R-Ky.) and Jo Bonner (Ala.) made a rare stand alongside Democrats, while Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind.), a former chairman of the GOP conference, spoke in strong support of the measure.

I don't even know what to say.

Read on and you will hear Rodgers, who needs to be gone as soon as possible, claiming that automatic across-the-board spending cuts are "lazy." By this, he means that this is the only fair way to make these cuts which will actually be politically palatable, and so he opposes this measure. He wants to weight each cut individually so that each constituency can come out one-by-one to demagogue the cuts and prevent them.

Okay, I give up. I wanted to give this two party system a try. Forget it. It's time for a third party, the Tea Party.

The GOP is dead to me. Hal Rodgers and posturing lying phony Eric Cantor need to be replaced.

The Republican Party

If you like your ruinous behemoth tax-parasite government, you can keep your ruinous behemoth tax-parasite government.

And that is is promise we will definitely keep. Because, in the end, that's the one thing that matters to us.

By the Way: Defunding ObamaCare was always symbolic because money has already been appropriated for that, in the last Congress, so only a positive law would stop that, and the Senate won't agree to that, and Obama would veto it.

So it was purely symbolic, for the suckers. (Chris Wallace just explained this; I wasn't in on the con.)

So the sucker thing that is pure political theater they did. The real thing, cutting other stuff, they won't do.

The Amendment... is here, it's amendment 104 offered by Mr. Jordan. You have to scroll some. It just says...

(before the short title), insert the following:
SEC. ll. (a) Each amount made available
by the following provisions of division B of
this Act (other than an amount required to
be made available by a provision of law) is
hereby reduced by the following percentage:
(1) Section 1101(a)(5) and title IX, 11 percent.
(2) All other provisions of such division
(except as provided by subsection (b)), 5.5
percent.
(b) Subsection (a) shall not apply to
amounts made available—
(1) by section 1101(a)(3) and title VI;
(2) by section 1101(a)(6) (with respect to division
E of Public Law 111–117) and title X;
and
(3) for Israel, by section 1101(a)(6) (with respect
to division F of Public Law 111–117) and
title XI.

All this crap about objecting to the OMB is a lie. It's a straighforward 11% cut to everything -- and everything has been bloated by huge amounts the last two years. It's an attempt to bring budgets back down closer to 2008 levels, and our terrific Congressmen are claiming that's impossible. As if the government was starved for cash after eight years of Bush's budget increases. As if in 2008 we were all sitting around saying "God, I sure wish we were spending more because the current level is entirely inadequate."

Well apparently some of us were saying that -- Cantor, Rogers, this Naomi sell-out, and half the rest of the House.

Posted by: Ace at 04:20 PM

Comments

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1 The Obama administration rescinded most of a federal regulation Friday designed to protect health workers who refuse to provide care they find objectionable on personal or religious grounds.The Health and Human Services Department eliminated nearly the entire rule put into effect by the administration of President George W. Bush during his final days in office that was widely interpreted as allowing such workers to opt out of a broad range of medical services, such as providing the emergency contraceptive Plan B, treating gay men and lesbians and prescribing birth control to single women.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at February 18, 2011 04:23 PM (tvs2p)

2 where's the link, ace?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 18, 2011 04:23 PM (pLTLS)

3 I just got startled by the sidebar clown picture. I about shit myself.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at February 18, 2011 04:24 PM (yQWNf)

4 Ace, don't see a story link.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 18, 2011 04:25 PM (c0A3e)

5 Don't blame me, I cast a protest vote for Tolbert - Hal Rogers opponent

Posted by: hueydiamondpooty at February 18, 2011 04:25 PM (ykkrh)

6 Okay, I give up. I wanted to give this two party system a try. Forget it. It's time for a third party, the Tea Party.
We may not even have time for that. I'm about to get on board with the "guns, gold and food insurance" crowd.

Posted by: Truman North at February 18, 2011 04:25 PM (8ay4x)

7
Damn lobbyists and hacks are a scourge to Washington.

Posted by: dolphin-safe soothsayer at February 18, 2011 04:26 PM (uFokq)

8 I added the link.

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 04:26 PM (nj1bB)

9 So we got $78 bil in cuts?

Posted by: AmishDude at February 18, 2011 04:26 PM (T0NGe)

10 Okay, I give up. I wanted to give this two party system a try. Forget it. It's time for a third party, the Tea Party.The GOP is dead to me. Hal Rodgers and posturing lying phony Eric Cantor need to be replaced.Posted by: Ace at 04:20 PM

Ace, is the GOP gonna be dead to you in the presidential race too? Or are you just talking about voting 3rd party in congressional races? Unless that bit was just sarcasm, then nevermind.

Posted by: Quicksilver Madness at February 18, 2011 04:27 PM (8V63G)

11 8
I added the link.

It doesn't work,

. At least for me.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 18, 2011 04:27 PM (c0A3e)

12 You're late to the party, Ace , but welcome you are. The GOP is nothing but Democrat turned inside-out.

Posted by: Ex-Republican genius at February 18, 2011 04:27 PM (le5qc)

13 Brought to you by a TBTF bank playing both sides of the aisle .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 18, 2011 04:28 PM (npr0X)

14 >>>So we got $78 bil in cuts?

No. They will negotiate those down to $15 billion with the Senate, because they never wanted this in the first place. We were all had. Sorry I pushed these cocksuckers.

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 04:28 PM (nj1bB)

15

The GOP is dead to me.

Drama queen.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 18, 2011 04:28 PM (IuKAf)

16 I think Ace is looking to have a fun Friday evening in the comments.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 18, 2011 04:28 PM (T0NGe)

17 Slightly off topic but not really. Illinois' gov. Quinn is asking the federal govt to guarantee the bonds he wants to sell to pay this year's pension payments. From Crains Chicago Business:

The detail was disclosed within Mr. Quinn's budget, which he released Wednesday, and was reported Friday by the New York Times.

The $3.7 billion in bonds Mr. Quinn wants to use to pay the state pension fund were supposed to go on sale Thursday, but the transaction has been scheduled for Tuesday and Wednesday. The likelihood that the federal government would back the debt is small, since Republicans have hinted that they would oppose that kind of support.

Illinois' pension-fund shortfall of about $85.57 billion is just one of the many gaps in the state's budget. Earlier this year, Mr. Quinn signed legislation that raised the state income tax rate to 5% from 3% for individuals and to 7% from 4.8% for businesses.

Posted by: Boots at February 18, 2011 04:28 PM (neKzn)

18
Obama is depending on a Third Party candidate to split the Republican party in order to win in 2012.

It's the only way Obama can win, really, if the GOP nominates a good candidate.

Posted by: dolphin-safe soothsayer at February 18, 2011 04:29 PM (uFokq)

19 Wisconsin, the State where CNN reporters can cover a demonstration and not be sexually assaulted!1!!11!!1

Posted by: Ex-Republican genius at February 18, 2011 04:29 PM (le5qc)

20 This may just be party elders putting down their feet against the young bucks. The young bucks go to the elders, kiss their ring a little bit, promise to be nice, and then propose something similar week after next in a more respectful way, and it passes. At least I hope so.

Posted by: joncelli at February 18, 2011 04:29 PM (RD7QR)

21 But we really needed that funding for NASCAR and muppets. For the children in uniform.

Posted by: pragmatic Republicans at February 18, 2011 04:29 PM (AZGON)

22 The link is no good.

Posted by: Jaynie59 at February 18, 2011 04:29 PM (/f9MS)

23 Ace,

I know you're angry, but the Tea Party would split the vote. And besides, how are Senators Christine O'Donnell, Sharron Angle, Joe Miller, and Ken Buck working out for us?

We need to primary people like Rodgers -- not split the GOP/Tea Party vote so Rodgers can be replaced by a Nancy Pelosi clone.

Posted by: Benson at February 18, 2011 04:30 PM (qzcNU)

24
But Cantor does suck. So does McConnell.

And Hal Rogers is a hack.

Posted by: dolphin-safe soothsayer at February 18, 2011 04:30 PM (uFokq)

25 I really don't see the problem here.

Posted by: Newt Gingrich at February 18, 2011 04:30 PM (AZGON)

26 Link's still empty, Ace.

Posted by: joncelli at February 18, 2011 04:30 PM (RD7QR)

27 This is depressing, but why not keep fighting? This is the only country and home I'll ever have or want, and I don't give a fuck about losing a couple battles.
Rant for a minute, then stand up and go back to work.

Posted by: Paper at February 18, 2011 04:30 PM (VoSja)

28 I think this is the story:

House rejects extra $22 billion in cuts that divided Republicans

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 18, 2011 04:30 PM (c0A3e)

29 Okay, NOW the link should work.

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 04:30 PM (nj1bB)

30 I have learned to NEVER trust the GOP establishment because when push comes to shove they will stab us in the back in their never ending quest to be loved by the media/left.

Posted by: Dan at February 18, 2011 04:30 PM (mXBxH)

31 "Rep. Kristi Noem (R-S.D.), an elected freshman representative on the leadership team, opposed the bill"

So much for the new girl.

As for Cantor and the rest of the old guard, we will primary their sorry asses one by one. We need to retire those little fruit cups or make their lives a living hell. They just wanted to stop the Tea Party momentum and we will just eventually run them over.

Posted by: Africanus at February 18, 2011 04:31 PM (EDjAd)

32 so are we allowed to call the asshole republicans that blocked it RINO'S? or is that not helpful?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at February 18, 2011 04:31 PM (Cm66w)

33 Shit. I always liked Cantor. No more.
If we can't cut 100 billion we're f*cked.
Plain and simple.

100 billion is f*cking chump change.

Posted by: Ben at February 18, 2011 04:31 PM (wuv1c)

34 poop

Posted by: joeindc44 at February 18, 2011 04:31 PM (QxSug)

35
but THIS is why Michelle Bachmann and others feel it is necessary to circumvent the GOP establishment, at times.

They just don't get it.

Posted by: dolphin-safe soothsayer at February 18, 2011 04:31 PM (uFokq)

36 Link to the Hill? I got it.
In other news, its' FIAF, so let's [insert poison here].

Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 18, 2011 04:31 PM (pLTLS)

37 17th amendment, ace. Currently, its a black hole.

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at February 18, 2011 04:31 PM (dkXRJ)

38 We stand tall and proud compared to these quivering blobs of useless protoplasm.

Posted by: jellyfish at February 18, 2011 04:32 PM (h0RtZ)

39 Lungren, chairman of the House Administration Committee, mounted an aggressive campaign against the measure, saying it would slash congressional budgets and cripple the Capitol Police’s ability to secure Congress.

You wouldn't want to see cuts in essential services. now would you?

Always scare 'em with the security thing.

Posted by: Dan Lungren at February 18, 2011 04:32 PM (AZGON)

40 27, always fight. At least we can sleep at night knowing we did the right thing.

Even if we have to fall back and regroup and counter attack.

Posted by: Dan at February 18, 2011 04:33 PM (mXBxH)

41
I know this is the House, but I hope Ace remembers this in 2012 when we primary Snowe and Brown with more conservative candidates.

Posted by: dolphin-safe soothsayer at February 18, 2011 04:33 PM (uFokq)

42 37
17th amendment, ace. Currently, its a black hole.
Racist!

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at February 18, 2011 04:33 PM (c0A3e)

43 "Okay, I give up. I wanted to give this two party system a try. Forget it. It's time for a third party, the Tea Party."
Welcome to the party pal. Bout time I might add.

Posted by: flyondawall at February 18, 2011 04:33 PM (/wdUP)

44 well, that's why there's primaries.

Posted by: joeindc44 at February 18, 2011 04:33 PM (QxSug)

45 The Republican Party : We Don't Have the Biggest Balls of Them All.

Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2011 04:33 PM (sHj00)

46 Kristi Noem opposed the bill, too.

Meanwhile, Mike Pence, who is serving is umpteenth term as Congressman, supported the bill.

Ace, explain to me how following the Tea Party is going to improve the situation.

Posted by: Benson at February 18, 2011 04:33 PM (qzcNU)

47 Blackburn and Jordan drafted a bill further cutting spending but it let the OMB decide what and where to
cut. Furthermore, Hal Rogers and Appropriations subcommittee leaders
spoke-out against the amendment because (1) they don't want to make
further cuts and (2) they likely felt slighted. A lot of fuss was also raised about the defense cuts offered by the amendment, which isn't being reported by The Hill.

Rogers co. were definitely wrong and part of this was internecine politics, but Blackburn and Jordan made some mistakes as well.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 04:35 PM (yfJ6g)

48
btw, I call these types of Republicans:

Just the Tip Republicanstm. Because they like half-measures and doing little things and compromising.

Posted by: dolphin-safe soothsayer at February 18, 2011 04:35 PM (uFokq)

49 Republican opponents of the proposal cited the across-the-board nature of the cuts, saying they dodge difficult choices and would allow the Obama administration to decide where to implement them.

“We were elected to make choices, not to run on automatic pilot,” said Rogers, the author of the underlying legislation.

Translation: "Cutting spending isn't important, but my privilege is."

Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2011 04:35 PM (AZGON)

50 31, yeah I remember her being sold as the next wave!

Posted by: Dan at February 18, 2011 04:35 PM (mXBxH)

51 Fuckity fuck.

And the clown on the sidebar is freaking me out.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2011 04:35 PM (UOM48)

52 Is this really skull-worthy?

And btw, Pennywise the Dancing Clown is creeping me out.

Posted by: toby928™ at February 18, 2011 04:35 PM (GTbGH)

53 IF ONLY I HAD VOTED FOR MIKE CASTLE THIS WOULDN'T BE HAPPENING!!

WOE IS ME!

Posted by: De R at February 18, 2011 04:36 PM (3j6OS)

54
Because when you take the Tea Party out of the equation, we cut $0 from the budget.

Posted by: dolphin-safe soothsayer at February 18, 2011 04:36 PM (uFokq)

55 I wanted to give this two party system a try. Forget it. It's time for a third party, the Tea Party.

Welcome to the party, pal.

Posted by: Flounder at February 18, 2011 04:36 PM (Kkt/i)

56 So I guess we're all going to dismiss outright the claim that the cuts were theater all along and were done slapdashsince it was obvious the additional $22 bil was a pipedream?
I mean, I'm okay with that, but cutting bait with Cantor over this, I figured might be a tough go for morons.

Posted by: spongeworthy at February 18, 2011 04:36 PM (rplL3)

57 Cantor is a self-aggrandizing, lying little bitch.

What's new?

Posted by: 98ZJUSMC at February 18, 2011 04:36 PM (RUbdB)

58 >>>Rogers & co. were definitely wrong and part of this was internecine politics, but Blackburn and Jordan made some mistakes as well.

because Rogers felt slighted?

What's everyone else's excuse? Half the party defected to the liberals.

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 04:36 PM (nj1bB)

59 21
But we really needed that funding for NASCAR and muppets.

We're not really funding NASCAR. Unless I'm wrong, this is part of the Army's recruiting budget.

NASCAR doesn't claim they'll go out of business without the Army's ads.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 18, 2011 04:37 PM (T0NGe)

60 Anyone watching Fox? There's a union douche in the WI capitol screaming in the face of the Fox reporter, "Fox lies!!!!11111!!!! Fox lies!!!1111!!!!"

I'd be hard-pressed not to punch him in his tiny, shriveled balls.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2011 04:37 PM (UOM48)

61 So if the idiot screaming "Fox Lies" is any indication of the quality of Wisconsin teachers, the kids are probably better off being as far away from their union teachers as possible.

Posted by: NC Ref at February 18, 2011 04:37 PM (/izg2)

62 Society

Posted by: Pennywise at February 18, 2011 04:37 PM (sHj00)

63 Is this their Friday news dumb tactic?

Posted by: rdbrewer at February 18, 2011 04:37 PM (gZQBG)

64 >>>So I guess we're all going to dismiss outright the claim that the cuts were theater all along and were done slapdash since it was obvious the additional $22 bil was a pipedream?

We've expanded the budget by $1 T in four years but cutting $22 billion is a pipe dream?

What is the point then? There is none. Fuckit.

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 04:38 PM (nj1bB)

65 Dumb, dump, what's the diff?

Posted by: rdbrewer at February 18, 2011 04:38 PM (gZQBG)

66 “This is a meat-ax approach on top of a meat-ax approach,” said Rep. Norm Dicks (D-Wash.), the ranking Democrat on the Appropriations Committee. “It is a double meat-ax approach.”

Sorry you little bugfucker, but what we need isn't a double meat-ax approach. We need an entire meat rendering plant on double overtime.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2011 04:38 PM (AZGON)

67 Half the party defected to the liberals.

Including Tea Party darling Kristi Noem. I don't see how just turning to a third-party version of the Tea Party is going to be any easier than reforming the GOP, if even the Tea Party is going to have people who vote with liberals on spending.

Posted by: Benson at February 18, 2011 04:38 PM (qzcNU)

68 I think there's some insider jockeying going on here that we don't see quite clearly. The complaint wasn't that they're cuts, but rather across-the-board, automatic cuts that the administration could apply on its own -- that is, to programs that we do need, like defense. I see here experienced people who understand how the system can be gamed against people who maybe don't quite see that yet.

Posted by: joncelli at February 18, 2011 04:38 PM (RD7QR)

69 Ace, welcome to the Tea Party.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2011 04:38 PM (UOM48)

70 52
Is this really skull-worthy?

Ace is trying to provoke a flame war in the comments. I think he's trying to prove a point...or something.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 18, 2011 04:38 PM (T0NGe)

71 I'm disappointed in Kristi. I shall have to find another RILF.

Funny stuff on Cavuto right now. A reporter is doing a live shot from the state house in WI and some red faced loon is shouting "Fox Lies" over and over 2 feet from the interviewer and when the reporter asks him if he would like to state his case he just keeps ranting "Fox lies".

That's no way to win the future.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 18, 2011 04:38 PM (TMB3S)

72 Fuck this, I'm done. I'm taking my toys and leaving....THE PLANET!

Posted by: Zombie-alien-dananjcon at February 18, 2011 04:38 PM (pr+up)

73 The sad part is that OBumbles has already said he will veto it, so why not stack some real cuts in there. They don't know very much about the Overton window, do they?

Don't let the bastards get you down.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 18, 2011 04:38 PM (h0RtZ)

74 so sponge we're satisfied with a trivial less than half a percent cut after four steady years of rapidly expanding spending?

All that new spending we hadn't needed in previous years -- now all of a sudden we can't get by without it? The economy will fall apart without it?

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 04:39 PM (nj1bB)

75 So, um, are RiNO's bad now?
...I'm confused

Posted by: beedubya at February 18, 2011 04:39 PM (AnTyA)

76 But we really needed that funding for NASCAR and muppets. For the children in uniform.
NASCAR? We're sponsoring a car for the Army, which has pretty good success in recruiting from the NASCAR crowd. The NASCAR funding is for Army recruitment, unless I missed something.

Posted by: Benson at February 18, 2011 04:39 PM (qzcNU)

77 Roll call vote? Anyone find it?

Posted by: Hey.Wheres.Barry at February 18, 2011 04:39 PM (hyP1j)

78 The military can have its budget cut too. Everything should be on the table, from Kermit to the recruiting arm of the Pentagon. Everything.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2011 04:40 PM (AZGON)

79 This is ridiculous. They should have been shooting for 200 billion because the Senate and Obama are going to end up cutting it in half anyway. If they really did leave the choosing cuts up to the OMB that was pretty stupid.

Posted by: Rocks at February 18, 2011 04:40 PM (Q1lie)

80 So my "attaboy" to the House from the previous thread was premature? Well knock me over with a feather.

If only the House could lead us all by not doing anything. That would be leadership we can believe in!

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 18, 2011 04:40 PM (swuwV)

81 They should have been shooting for 200 billion because the Senate and Obama are going to end up cutting it in half anyway.

Still off by an order of magnitude.

Posted by: HeatherRadish stands with Scott Walker at February 18, 2011 04:40 PM (nAOMZ)

82 Wait?? Aren't 3rd parties a disaster??
..I'm really, really confused now

Posted by: beedubya at February 18, 2011 04:41 PM (AnTyA)

83 Like I've been saying all along: the major part of our problem right now is the "as long as I get mine" mindset. It's one of the reasons that democracies never survive long-term.

Posted by: Monty at February 18, 2011 04:41 PM (4Pleu)

84 Okay, I give up. I wanted to give this two party system a try. Forget it. It's time for a third party, the Tea Party.

Fuckin'-A right!

Talk about "lazy." If they can't find a paltry $100 billion to cut out of that behemoth, they're simply not serious about the crisis we face.

Posted by: Andy at February 18, 2011 04:41 PM (5Rurq)

85
Re: the shrill "meat-ax" comments

This is why weeks we here at AoS were saying the Republicans needed to shoot for big numbers because we knew the Democrats would shit bricks at any number that was proposed.

Republicans think small; that's their problem

Posted by: dolphin-safe soothsayer at February 18, 2011 04:41 PM (uFokq)

86 Funny stuff on Cavuto right now. A reporter is
doing a live shot from the state house in WI and some red faced loon is
shouting "Fox Lies" over and over 2 feet from the interviewer and when
the reporter asks him if he would like to state his case he just keeps
ranting "Fox lies".

That's no way to win the future.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 18, 2011 04:38 PM (TMB3S)

Typical lib thug. I'll bet he's a middle or high school teacher.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2011 04:41 PM (UOM48)

87 #78

Which is great so long as we get an agreement that the military budget is cut at the same time liberals allow entitlement reform.

Until then, you're cutting the military budget while liberals block any attempt to reform the single largest budgetary problem we have.

Posted by: Benson at February 18, 2011 04:41 PM (qzcNU)

88 And I'm not trying to "start a flamewar," I am using the limited message power I have to tell these fuckers that I am officially an independent unless this is changed immediately.

No fucking way I support these assholes. They conned me.

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 04:41 PM (nj1bB)

89 Arthur is driving in theNationwide Series this year to increase listeners for NPR.

Posted by: Paper at February 18, 2011 04:41 PM (VoSja)

90 How in the FUCK can 100bn in cuts be called 'DEEP' when the government has piled on 1TRILLION in extra spending/yr beyond the 2008 levels.

How did we ever survive when the government was piling up only 2-400 billion in deficit spending every year just TWO YEARS ago.

Fuck this motherfuckers. It is ON.

Posted by: blindside at February 18, 2011 04:42 PM (x7g7t)

91 BTW, I'm more than willing to put the PBS funding on the same level as NASCAR. Let the Army buy time on PBS through their recruiting budget.

After the end of DADT, they can buy time during one of the 17,489 annual documentaries about being gay in America.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 18, 2011 04:42 PM (T0NGe)

92 That prompted an objection from Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-Tenn.), a co-sponsor of the amendment, who stood up to say she “would take issue with any member calling a member of this House lazy.
---
Blackburn said: “I know not everyone is a fan of across the board cuts, but many of us are, and so are our constituents.”

Yes.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2011 04:42 PM (AZGON)

93 58
because Rogers felt slighted?

What's everyone else's excuse? Half the party defected to the liberals.

The mistake made by Blackburn and Jordan was to let the OMB make the cuts, which was a bizarre decision. My other point was that The Hill didn't state what was in the amendment.

With regards to Hal Rogers, I've been watching him since this CR debate began, and he can go fuck himself. Boehner has had to twist his arm at every turn and he's been letting others take the heat for it. You think there is a problem now? Appropriations is going to throw a fit every time they don't get their way.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 04:42 PM (yfJ6g)

94 87 #78

Which is great so long as we get an agreement that the military budget is cut at the same time liberals allow entitlement reform.

Yes, or at least cuts in liberal darling programs. Everything on the table.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2011 04:43 PM (AZGON)

95 Obama is depending on a Third Party candidate to split the Republican party in order to win in 2012.
No he isn't.
If his next SOTU address is him putting on a Mao mask and raping a stolen fetus to death while screaming "Allahu ackbar!" he gets his 40%—plus about fifteen points of rock-ribbed conservatives who'll look past that because the Republican nominee is unHarvardian or doesn't have Bob Dylan on his iPod or his wife let their kid drink a Pibb X in public or some shit.
Love the bone. For it is life.

Posted by: oblig. at February 18, 2011 04:43 PM (xvZW9)

96 The mistake made by Blackburn and Jordan was to let the OMB make the cuts, which was a bizarre decision.

So the legislation would have allowed the Obama Administration to decide where the cuts have been made?

Posted by: Benson at February 18, 2011 04:43 PM (qzcNU)

97 They should have been shooting for 200 billion because the Senate and Obama are going to end up cutting it in half anyway.

Still off by an order of magnitude.

Now your speaking my language.

Looking for the roll call vote to find out how my congress critter voted.

Posted by: Follower of Cthulhu at February 18, 2011 04:43 PM (F/4zf)

98 Ace: "Okay, I give up. I wanted to give this two party system a try. Forget it. It's time for a third party, the Tea Party."

Seems I've heard this before and yet you'll be right back in the fold in a week. Gotta work with the system you have, not the one you wish you had yadda yadda yadda.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 18, 2011 04:43 PM (swuwV)

99 For the record, am I still crazy for having voted for Perot in '92?

Posted by: FireHorse at February 18, 2011 04:44 PM (k3RPu)

100 78
The military can have its budget cut too. Everything should be on the
table, from Kermit to the recruiting arm of the Pentagon. Everything.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2011 04:40 PM (AZGON)

I thought the military was cutting back on recruiting anyway? The hell? $7 mil. to pay for a paint job on a race car?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2011 04:44 PM (UOM48)

101 88
And I'm not trying to "start a flamewar," I am using the limited message
power I have to tell these fuckers that I am officially an independent
unless this is changed immediately.

No fucking way I support these assholes. They conned me.

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 04:41 PM (nj1bB)
You know, you really have to sell it, ace. I'm just not buying it. Even the guy on the Actor's Studio wouldn't buy it. I think you've got to maybe say that Sarah Palin should run third party or something.That will sell it.

Posted by: AmishDude at February 18, 2011 04:44 PM (T0NGe)

102 The repeal of DADT was helped after all by Bert and Ernie's presence in the stirring documentary 'A Hand inMy Ass and a Hand Saluting My Country'.

Posted by: Paper at February 18, 2011 04:44 PM (VoSja)

103 Come, join the WAR PARTY, let's see exotic lands!

Posted by: GWAR at February 18, 2011 04:44 PM (sHj00)

104 Like I've been saying all along: the major part of our problem right now is the "as long as I get mine" mindset. It's one of the reasons that democracies never survive long-term.

We don't know what you mean.

Posted by: The 101st Airborne Muppet Brigade and Amtrak Conductors' Union at February 18, 2011 04:45 PM (AZGON)

105 96
So
the legislation would have allowed the Obama Administration to decide
where the cuts have been made?

That it what was said on the floor, yes.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 04:45 PM (yfJ6g)

106 The mistake made by Blackburn and Jordan was to let the OMB make the cuts, which was a bizarre decision.

This. Don't let the executive choose the cuts. That's what Rodgers and the others are saying. People, we need to go home, get drunk, stay away from the computer, and come back fresh next week. This isn't what it seems.

Posted by: joncelli at February 18, 2011 04:45 PM (RD7QR)

107 Now, see, the economy...it's like a horse chewin' peanut butter...

*points to chart*

Posted by: Ross Perot at February 18, 2011 04:45 PM (ay6+/)

108 Like I said, either the RINO's or the Republicans will go extinct. The RINO's are still screwing over the base, so something is gonna give.

Posted by: maddogg at February 18, 2011 04:45 PM (OlN4e)

109 Posted by: Benson at February 18, 2011 04:38 PM (qzcNU)
Noem was never really a Tea Partier. She's Thune's girl, and Thune is as establishment as they come.
And "Young Gun" Eric Cantor should change his nickname to "Young Limpdick".

Posted by: RemyHair, purveyor of finest lacewigs at February 18, 2011 04:46 PM (mABIe)

110

We've expanded the budget by $1 T in four years but cutting $22 billion
is a pipe dream?

What is the point then? There is none. Fuckit.

Obama wins. He jacked the spending up to start the negotiations as far on the side of ruin as he could and the dumb assed Rep.s fell for it.
I would love to sell the bastards a used car.
Them: "Gee, I donno, isn't $100,000 dollars high for a used Fiat?"
Me : "Look I inherited this car and the price tag was on it. It does seem high but at least I didn't raise it. You could say I froze the price."
Them: "Froze it?! Well that's not gonna get it Mr! I think you are trying to pull one over on us. And we are not going to put up with it! In fact we won't give you a dime over $95,000!"
Me: "Um, Ok."

Posted by: kidney at February 18, 2011 04:46 PM (3j6OS)

111 #109 fuckin sock

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at February 18, 2011 04:46 PM (mABIe)

112 Arthur is driving in the Nationwide Series this year to increase listeners for NPR.

New keyboard, my place, 9AM.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2011 04:46 PM (AZGON)

113 No fucking way I support these assholes. They conned me.

Politicians will disappoint you. Always. A politician is a creature of the moment -- by nature, and in a democracy, by necessity. I'm not even pining for a third party now, because the libertarians have been trying it for years with little success. I will simply have take whatever cold comfort is to be had in being a stoic.

I will watch the tragedy unfold, and wish we had chosen better people to lead us. Ultimately this is our fault, not theirs. A politician, like a scorpion, cannot help being what he is; it's our fault for thinking otherwise.

Posted by: Monty at February 18, 2011 04:47 PM (4Pleu)

114 I don't think going third party is the solution. We need to clean out the Republican Party.

Posted by: KG at February 18, 2011 04:47 PM (2k/Dg)

115 Now, see, the economy...it's like a horse chewin' peanut butter...*points to chart*

Posted by: Ross Perot

That shouldn't be funny but I laughed.

Posted by: goldbricker esq at February 18, 2011 04:48 PM (S59+B)

116 Is it time to start theburning yet?

Posted by: Trashcan Man at February 18, 2011 04:48 PM (1VLfs)

117 I don't even know what to say.Okay, I give up. I wanted to give this two party system a try. Forget it. It's time for a third party, the Tea Party.The GOP is dead to me. Hal Rodgers and posturing lying phony Eric Cantor need to be replaced.

Republicans controlled the House for only 51 days before turning their back on fiscal sanity, balanced budgets, and smaller government, and ultimately the prosperity of the US. Ace I have to say, I am similarly discouraged. Apparently Republicans are not getting the message.

Reince Priebus is about to get a piece of my mind.

Posted by: MīcÞeMūß at February 18, 2011 04:48 PM (0q2P7)

118 This. Don't let the executive choose the cuts. That's what Rodgers and the others are saying. People, we need to go home, get drunk, stay away from the computer, and come back fresh next week. This isn't what it seems.
Posted by: joncelli at February 18, 2011 04:45 PM (RD7QR)
You know, I really wish you are right, but history says you are wrong.

Posted by: maddogg at February 18, 2011 04:48 PM (OlN4e)

119 Can you kindly list all the names and districts of the sellouts, Ace? This needs to be publicized.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 18, 2011 04:48 PM (ujg0T)

120 More news on members voting:

The final 147 to 281 vote saw members of the House Republican leadership
splitting their votes, with House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (Va.) and
Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (Calif.) voting against the measure and
Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (Wis.) and Republican Caucus
Chairman Jeb Hensarling (Texas) voting in favor.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 04:48 PM (yfJ6g)

121 99
For the record, am I still crazy for having voted for Perot in '92?

Posted by: FireHorse at February 18, 2011 04:44 PM (k3RPu)

Yes. But considering who I was shacking up with in '92 I'm not in a position to criticize other people's judgement.

Posted by: joncelli at February 18, 2011 04:48 PM (RD7QR)

122 Electability without reliability.
Welcome back to the real world.
It's not about party. It's about results.

Posted by: AoSHQ's worst commenter, DarkLord© at February 18, 2011 04:49 PM (GBXon)

123 Ace:

These old assholes who keep running as Republicans need to be given as many chances as possible to fail to cut spending.

The House Teapartiers need to keep hammering and hammering on these old fools until the 2012 elections. They need to be thoroughly identified in the public's eye as Obama's little pets.

If they want to side with Obama, then we need to handcuff them to him so they drown when he does.

Posted by: Kristopher at February 18, 2011 04:49 PM (atS82)

124 I want to see Kristi Noem go on t.v. and cry.

Posted by: arhooley at February 18, 2011 04:49 PM (dxHQO)

125 >>>on't let the executive choose the cuts. That's what Rodgers and the others are saying

I have a different theory. The theory is that they chose this mechanism to make it seem impartial and mechanical (and thus an easier sell politically) and it is for that reason Rogers opposes it-- the easier to sell politically part. because he wants to make this as hard as possible, because he wants to just keep appropriating.

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 04:49 PM (nj1bB)

126 Okay, it was Rep. Kingston who talked about the OMB:
Georgia Republican Rep. Jack Kingston described himself as a "proud RSC
member" who opposed the amendment because he argued that an
across-the-board cut would put Obama administration officials in charge
of the decision-making on how to cut.

I'm trying to find the text of the amendment but I'm not finding it.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 04:50 PM (yfJ6g)

127 For the record, am I still crazy for having voted for Perot in '92?

You, me, and almost ONE FUCKING THIRD of the voters knew we were going to get ask-f*cked by either the GOP or the Dems. You know what -- and this is the point that the country club republicans don't get -- I'd do it again.

Though Bill Clinton getting into office and selling our prosperity to the Chinese in return for campaign contributions makes me pause.

Posted by: Downscaled Upscale at February 18, 2011 04:50 PM (IhHdM)

128 Defunding ObamaCare was always symbolic because money has already been appropriated for that...

So the sucker thing that is pure political theater they did. The real thing, cutting other stuff, they won't do.

It is this which keeps me deeply pessimistic.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2011 04:51 PM (AZGON)

129 No fucking way I support these assholes. They conned me.
Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 04:41 PM (nj1bB)
You believed them?You're usually a pretty politically astute guy, but on this one...dayum.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at February 18, 2011 04:51 PM (A/oSU)

130 In the end, there will only be rage.
If they have any idea what this will mean for them. . . well, they must not, because if they did they wouldn't have done it.
Betrayal. Abdication of responsibility.
Cowardice.

Posted by: I Salute Kratos at February 18, 2011 04:52 PM (y5VNb)

131 Duh doh deh eh oh ohn hno hon ona ono ona nona ona nona lodo Tra tru tru tro uma umo umu mum mun mump!1!11!1!11

Posted by: Serena Benson shouts Donald Trump at February 18, 2011 04:52 PM (le5qc)

132 127
For the record, am I still crazy for having voted for Perot in '92?

Guilty.

Posted by: NC Ref at February 18, 2011 04:52 PM (/izg2)

133 Posted by: Hey.Wheres.Barry at February 18, 2011 04:39 PM (hyP1j)

Second! Anyone got a link to the roll-call? I need to know how my CongressCretin voted.

Posted by: beedubya at February 18, 2011 04:41 PM (AnTyA)

Well, the 2nd party is a disaster, too. Why not at least try something different. Definition of insanity, and all that.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 18, 2011 04:52 PM (8y9MW)

134 Where was Ryan on this?

Posted by: Passably Affable at February 18, 2011 04:52 PM (2Ukpz)

135 And just when I was thinking about ordering my copy of Young Guns.

Posted by: Dave S. at February 18, 2011 04:52 PM (UvR6d)

136 Republicans don't care about the deficit. They never did. Why is the deficit now a big deal for you, ace? You never cared about it before.

I liked it a lot better when you used to blog about the war, the glorious war, and when you used to write reviews about Will Ferrell movies.

Posted by: some murdered nuns in el salvador at February 18, 2011 04:52 PM (TdIVg)

137 How I pine for the Tar, Feather and Rails of our Forefathers.

Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2011 04:52 PM (sHj00)

138 Yes, Tea Party, but not as a 3rd party, but by taking over the rotten corpse of the GOP from township trustees and State Central committeemen on up. We're doing it in Ohio, bit by bit.

Posted by: Jeffrey Quick at February 18, 2011 04:53 PM (bijvq)

139 A politician, like a scorpion, cannot help being what he is; it's our fault for thinking otherwise.

So you're saying we shouldn't give a politician a ride on our back over a river?

Anyway, as someone said upthread, love the bone.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2011 04:53 PM (AZGON)

140 Fuck you Republicans, I voted for Perot too. Fuck you , I'll throw my vote away if I wish. Fuck the GOP.

Now back to my previous level of civility.

Posted by: dr kill at February 18, 2011 04:53 PM (le5qc)

141 Crap. Who let the shit eating, leg humping mongrel in?

Posted by: maddogg at February 18, 2011 04:53 PM (OlN4e)

142 Oh for God's sake ergie, will you optimize your infrastructure for IPv6 and shut the fuck up?

Posted by: joncelli at February 18, 2011 04:54 PM (RD7QR)

143 Traditional GOP'ers divide their time between whistling past the MFM graveyard and shrinking from their own shadows while angling for the permanent minority.
The Taxed Enuff Already Party mark the line in the sand pretty well for us tax payin' types.

That silly, perpetual smile on Cantor's face betrays a lack of intestinal fortitude, and perhaps an embarrassing failure of same.

Posted by: ontherocks at February 18, 2011 04:55 PM (HBqDo)

144 Like I've been saying all along: the major part of our problem right now is the "as long as I get mine" mindset. Monty .

You forgot the " ...at the expense of someone else....."

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 18, 2011 04:55 PM (npr0X)

145 I will simply have take whatever cold comfort is to be had in being a stoic.
Oh, noes...another stoic.
That'll teach us!!!

Posted by: RiNos at February 18, 2011 04:55 PM (AnTyA)

146 Miss 80s Baby, jonicelli, I don't mean to shoot you guys down because you seem to know more than me (so you're assets) but I'm pretty fucking angry.

Please continue offering insights or whatever it is you know. PS, how do you know this?

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 04:55 PM (nj1bB)

147 looks like another weekend binder is in the works.
I'll be back for the ONT....things are usaully more cheerful there.
**sigh**

Posted by: Zombie-alien-drunkin-dananjcon at February 18, 2011 04:55 PM (pr+up)

148 In the end, there will only be rage Federal Reserve accountants adding zeros to the books.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2011 04:55 PM (AZGON)

149 For the record, am I still crazy for having voted for Perot in '92?

Yes. Maybe not if he were to run in '12, though.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 18, 2011 04:55 PM (8y9MW)

150 Good Lord. Disgusting, but predictable, and predicted by many.
Scrap the GOP. We need a real opposition party.

Posted by: snort! at February 18, 2011 04:55 PM (K/USr)

151 Alright, I'm confused on this. I know what was said about the OMB, but a majority of RSC members voted for this. So were Kingston and his colleagues wrong? I'm now curious, since I don't trust Rogers, Latham, and his buddies as far as I can throw them.

This was what was offered:
Across-the-board cuts of 11% to Legislative Branch accounts and
5.5% to all other non-security accounts, excluding aid to Israel.

But who gets to decide? Jordan and Blackburn haven't posted it, but this isn't the 1st time I've hear the OMB argument. I want to see this.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 04:55 PM (yfJ6g)

152 For the record, am I still crazy for having voted for Perot in '92?

Nope, and neither was I. I mean *points to headline*, Ladies and Gentlemen: Your Republican Party.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 18, 2011 04:56 PM (p05LM)

153 Why is the deficit now a big deal for you, ace? You never cared about it before.
Because your Obamunist Commiecrat pals increased it several times over.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 18, 2011 04:56 PM (ujg0T)

154 I used to believe that the 3rd party was the solution, but then I realized that if a Tea Party did form and it replaced the Republican party the result would be that most of those dork wads that make the Republican party suck would then become members of the Tea Party.

Posted by: Follower of Cthulhu at February 18, 2011 04:56 PM (F/4zf)

155 This is why the RNC isn't getting donations from me.

Posted by: fluffy, IINO at February 18, 2011 04:56 PM (4Kl5M)

156 How did Allen West vote?

You're way in front of Michelle Malkin and HotAir on this one. Eager to read more.

Oh, and, DRAFT PENCE! I will give up my Christie crush if Pence runs.

For goodness sake, DRAFT PENCE!

We need to acknowledge that he's one of the few in Congress who is serious about this shit. It's not just about punishing the guys who gave us the finger, it's about replacing that tired old shit with something better.

Posted by: Y-not at February 18, 2011 04:57 PM (pW2o8)

157 >>>Can you kindly list all the names and districts of the sellouts, Ace? This needs to be publicized.

I'm sure Malkin is working on it. I just checked over there; not yet.

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 04:57 PM (nj1bB)

158 Everything is falling into place.*

*This message brought to you by the number 666 and the word "co-opt."

Posted by: Trent Lott at February 18, 2011 04:57 PM (swuwV)

159 "It's time for a third party, the Tea Party.
The GOP is dead to me."

The GOP left me a long time ago. I don't want a third party, I want the tea Party to take over the GOP.

Posted by: g at February 18, 2011 04:58 PM (yv++J)

160 134
Where was Ryan on this?

"....Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (Wis.) and Republican Caucus
Chairman Jeb Hensarling (Texas) voting in favor."

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 04:58 PM (yfJ6g)

161 Oh, and I'm against a third party. It's doomed to fail.

Posted by: Y-not at February 18, 2011 04:58 PM (pW2o8)

162 1000 comments or bust

Posted by: Techie at February 18, 2011 04:58 PM (gfg//)

163 In keeping with a proper level of civility, I'd like to gently point out to some fucking asshole up comments that country names are properly capitalized, e.g. El Salvador.

Posted by: dr kill at February 18, 2011 04:58 PM (le5qc)

164 The frakkin house is on fire and the D's are running around throwin gas on the fire. The R's are chasing behind them with a watergun shouting, "I got this! I got this!"

Posted by: kidney at February 18, 2011 04:59 PM (3j6OS)

165 No real surprise here. The Republican Party is still too full of, and run by, the Washington-based RINOs and Wobbly faux conservatives. It's going to take multiple elections to root them out. It's a lot more difficult to change the forces in D.C. than it is in state governments.

Win at the grass roots levels, meaning the state and local governments. Nationally, primary every RINO and wobbler that's in a safe district and, in questionable districts, primary those who sell out more than they stand firm. Do that for 3-4 cycles and you'll finally start to see real results.

Posted by: Just A Guy at February 18, 2011 04:59 PM (mWFwD)

166 146 Miss 80s Baby, jonicelli, I don't mean to shoot you guys down because you seem to know more than me (so you're assets) but I'm pretty fucking angry.

Please continue offering insights or whatever it is you know. PS, how do you know this?
Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 04:55 PM (nj1bB)

Read the Hill story all the way through. The details are closer to the bottom. It states that they would have delegated the cuts to the OMB, which would have taken the discretion out of Congress's hands and given it to the executive. I might be overly optimistic but I'm not ready to give up just yet.

Posted by: joncelli at February 18, 2011 04:59 PM (RD7QR)

167 Ace,

Here's the two rules to live by:

1. Don't let the motherfuckers get you down.
2. Remember, they're all motherfuckers.

Posted by: A Monkey on Crack at February 18, 2011 04:59 PM (O7Q1u)

168 Wait!!!
I'm really, really, really confused now.
I thought all that mattered was that they had an "R" listed after their names.

Posted by: beedubya at February 18, 2011 04:59 PM (AnTyA)

169 Why did you stop writing about the war, the glorious war? Isn't Obama some kind of traitor or something?

The problem I think is that you spend too much time blogging about what hot air wants you to blog about. Stop taking your cues from them! Do some totally crazy new right-wing knucklehead thing. Strike out for new territory, ace. Fuck this Johnny-come-lately debt debt debt bullshit. your heart's not in it.

Posted by: some murdered nuns in el salvador at February 18, 2011 05:00 PM (TdIVg)

170 113: I will watch the tragedy unfold, and wish we had chosen better people to lead us.
I don't want to see you disappointed, Monty, but I don't think you'll be able to watch this. American ingenuity will come up with a solution to these problems. But they won't really solve anything. They'll just delay the inevitable for another generation or two.

Posted by: FireHorse at February 18, 2011 05:00 PM (k3RPu)

171 By the way, if the objection is about the OMB procedure, they of course could have proposed an alternate way of getting there.

They didn't, because the proceduralist objection is bullshit.

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 05:00 PM (nj1bB)

172 Time to start gaming out what to do in case of default, folks. Looks like Crazy Glen Beck may have been right all along.

Posted by: kidney at February 18, 2011 05:00 PM (3j6OS)

173 ace@88, dude, this is totally how I felt back during TARP. That was my Rubicon and the GOP blew it to smithereens.

Welcome to the dark side.

To someone up-thread: I already have my guns and (a very little) gold. I'm looking at property where I can plant a big-ass garden and maybe have some cows. That's pretty much all that's left.

Smoke 'em while you got 'em.

Posted by: Ella at February 18, 2011 05:00 PM (DmnMk)

174 Kristi Noem is already a huge fucking disappointment. Too bad.

Posted by: Barbarian at February 18, 2011 05:00 PM (EL+OC)

175
Haiku Friday

Democrates eat shite
Republicans do the same
The Tea Party Saves

Posted by: sTevo at February 18, 2011 05:00 PM (vqAQ6)

176 "Sucking Whatever Comes Through the Hole Since 1854"

Posted by: The Republican Party at February 18, 2011 05:00 PM (sHj00)

177 Also, cutting the Capitol Police?

That's now replacing the "Washington Monument" strategy for me

Posted by: Techie at February 18, 2011 05:00 PM (gfg//)

178 I've been saying for a while now that the divide between the makers and the moochers is just too large, and the political class is too dependent on the moochers to just give them the finger. So some preparations for the zombie apocalypse are wise for us all.

Perhaps we need a bellwether, someone we can look to each time to see if we can trust each move or not.

I nominate Alan West for this important role. His men would follow him through hell carrying gas cans; that is the kind of reliability we need to be able to place in one person right now.

He doesn't have to be President, or Speaker; just a weather vane for the right direction to take. The babble of voices makes it hard to see a clear path.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 18, 2011 05:00 PM (h0RtZ)

179 hmm, erg comes to weep, so there must be a silver lining here

Posted by: toby928™ at February 18, 2011 05:00 PM (GTbGH)

180 I'm starting to think about just not paying taxes...reducing witholding to the minimum, and putting the extra money to canned goods and survival gear. I've probably got 3-5 years before the IRS would start looking for me, by which time the whole freakin' country will have collapsed.

Then Lord Humongous will have to come and get me, if he cares.

Posted by: nickless at February 18, 2011 05:00 PM (MMC8r)

181
"Tomorrow, I will address both the "Stand with Scott Walker" rally in Wisconsin and the Northshore Tea Party in Mandeville, La. We the People are energized and motivated to take our country back!"
From Herman Cain's FB page. Don't give up on the Repubsyet (and not just because that would guarantee the collapse of our nation).

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 18, 2011 05:01 PM (xMT+4)

182 This might be another "prodecural thing". The way I'm understanding it the ammendment would have put the actual cutting knife in Dear Leader's hand. We need to keep all sharp objects away from that asshole. Just sayin'.Perhaps some reform in the way congress does things would be in order, like making procedure more straightforward.

Posted by: Trashcan Man at February 18, 2011 05:01 PM (1VLfs)

183 I am shocked, shocked I tell you, that Republicans who were elected to stand up for taxpayers in this country would turn out to be just like the slimy low-life suckers who were voted out. Ace, come on into the waters of independence/Libertarians, it's warm and soothing.

Posted by: mikeyslaw at February 18, 2011 05:01 PM (QMGr1)

184 The GOP left me a long time ago. I don't want a third party, I want the tea Party to take over the GOP.

Amen.

Splitting the vote gets us people who vote for ObamaCare. Changing the party gets us some people who oppose bills like this one but eventually those with the testicular fortitude to make real changes.

Posted by: Benson at February 18, 2011 05:01 PM (qzcNU)

185 If my third party, The Tea Party, fails, at least I go down fighting for what I believe in.

Posted by: Dennis at February 18, 2011 05:01 PM (wwok4)

186 Some of us think it is more important that the total size of cuts remain high as possible, even if the enemy (Barry, of course) gets to have more say in what is actually cut; this is especially so because even $100 billion would still remain a mere nick on the edifice of profligacy. Yet, the larger real amount we could have proposed if the $22 billion had passed would have shown voters that we were just that much more serious. Or so the argument goes.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2011 05:01 PM (AZGON)

187 Any particular reason erg can't just get knocked outta the park with the ban stick?

Posted by: maddogg at February 18, 2011 05:01 PM (OlN4e)

188 I'm going to take up hobo farming.

Posted by: Warden at February 18, 2011 05:01 PM (HzhBE)

189 Jack Kingston is a strong supporter of the Tea Party, and a personal friend. I'll share whatever I/we hear from him.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2011 05:01 PM (UOM48)

190 146
Miss 80s Baby, jonicelli, I don't mean to shoot you guys down because
you seem to know more than me (so you're assets) but I'm pretty fucking
angry.

Please continue offering insights or whatever it is you know. PS, how
do you know this?

I don't know what to make of it because I know what was said and I know why Appropriations was against it-- Rogers is a Benedict Arnold, mark my words-- but who got to decide where the cuts were made? This was not the 1st time I heard the OMB was allowed to choose the cuts, which would make since because Jordan dislikes Rogers-- and I don't blame him. But would Ryan and Hensarling vote for this if that was the case? What it comes down to me is whether Rep. Kingston was right or not.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 05:02 PM (yfJ6g)

191 Meanwhile, Mike Pence, who is serving is umpteenth term as Congressman, supported the bill.

But he has such presidential hair!

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at February 18, 2011 05:02 PM (mHQ7T)

192 Posted by: joncelli at February 18, 2011 04:59 PM (RD7QR)

Still angry. Letting the OMB do it would have made it "politically palatable" for everybody, since they could have washed their hands of it. "Oh, it wasn't me that cut funding for that Air Base," they could say, "It was those evil bureaucrats at the OMB."

Perhaps a blanket "10% from all of last year's spending" or something like that would have been "better" (for a given value of that word), but the comments suggest that the Reps who voted against this would vote against that, too.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 18, 2011 05:02 PM (8y9MW)

193 Posted by: AmishDude at February 18, 2011 04:44 PM (T0NGe)
All she would have to do is threaten to start a third party and show them her massive donor/mailing list. I have a feeling that would snap a lot of these jackwagons back into reality.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at February 18, 2011 05:02 PM (mABIe)

194 >>>Why did you stop writing about the war, the glorious war?

because your boy Obama is murdering enough peaceful foreigners. I love me all the drone strikes he's ordering against peaceful sovereign foreigners. I love how he signed an execution warrant against a peaceful US citizen who committed no crime.

Love it, erg. Fucking love it. Do you love it? Do you love when he KILLS? Fuck, he gives me death-erections.

It's like all the killing of Cheney with none of the right-wing rudeness of it. It's so civilized. No one ever objects. I FUCKING LOVE IT!!!

Do you> Do YOU?

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 05:02 PM (nj1bB)

195 Posted by: some murdered nuns in el salvador at February 18, 2011 04:52 PM (TdIVg)

Has anyone identified this carbuncle on a crack whore's rectum?

And who do I talk to about the Troll Improvement Program? It's not working. This one can't even spell.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at February 18, 2011 05:02 PM (LH6ir)

196 I will be curious to hear Sarah Palin's comment on this vote.

Posted by: stuiec at February 18, 2011 05:02 PM (nWPRC)

197 Why did you stop writing about the war, the glorious war?
Because Iraq is essentially won.
Isn't Obama some kind of traitor or something?
Effectively yes.
Now go felalte Hugo Chavez. Like you fellated the Sandinistas.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 18, 2011 05:03 PM (ujg0T)

198 Seriously, Cantor is a token Jew, no more qualified to lead than Steele was at the RNC.
We cannot afford a 3rd party unless we have universal runoff elections.
What we can do is take over the GOP, one piece at a time. 2012 we get control of the Senate, hopefully with fresh conservative blood as a strong minority in the Majority. If we are diligent, maybe in 2014 the TP will dominate the Senate.
Every two years in the meanwhile, we can oust more Democrats in the House and make sure that the GOPer is TP-approved. We should also target select RINOs in the house each cycle.
But for Prez, we need to figure out how to get Saracuda's negatives down, because thus far she is the only bold conservative with a pack of ardent supporters. If she isn't Prez, then she needs to be the VP that keeps the Prez true to conservative principles.

Posted by: smarty at February 18, 2011 05:03 PM (cSJrw)

199 Lying cocksucking so called republicans. And to think some fuckfaced GOP shill called me the other day begging for some clams to shore up the GOP. Not one fucking red cent. They're doing it again..."Eat shit all of you republican voters. I don't give a flying fuck what you idiots want, it's what I want...got it?" I need a drink.

Posted by: Sparky at February 18, 2011 05:03 PM (MNYI+)

200 dude, this is totally how I felt back during TARP. That was my Rubicon and the GOP blew it to smithereens.

Don't even get me started.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2011 05:03 PM (AZGON)

201 >>>But he has such presidential hair!

supporting the bill means he voted for the cuts.

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 05:04 PM (nj1bB)

202 At least I can write the word REVOLUTION without being banned by Tepid Air.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2011 05:04 PM (UlUS4)

203 There's no such thing as a bad cut.

Posted by: nickless at February 18, 2011 05:04 PM (MMC8r)

204 Politicians will disappoint you.

This ain't a F*ING disappointment! These bastards just proved without a doubt they don't give a F* about this country.

We NEED as a bare minimum 500B cut out of this budget just to give this Country a *chance* of avoiding economic collapse.

Republicans open up with 100B

Then turn coats and vote with Dems to reduce it to 80B so they could keep their pork.

At this point the budget cuts are nearly worthless.
13T in debt, 1.5T in deficit, these issues need to be dealt with NOW and these guys deftly cut 0.08T from the budget.

It's more than disappointing. It's totally demoralizing.

There will be no Republican defeat of Obama if this is how they want to proceed.

Posted by: MīcÞeMūß at February 18, 2011 05:05 PM (0q2P7)

205 They'll just delay the inevitable for another generation or two.

In fairness, this is a fair statement of the people of America since at least the Civil War.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 18, 2011 05:05 PM (8y9MW)

206 What is the point then? There is none. Fuckit.

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 04:38 PM (nj1bB)
I understand your cynicism Ace, and it sucks ass that the playas keep being playas, but short of revolution (which it hopefully does not ever have to come to), just gotta keep slugging. Prison rape doesn't become less brutal just because a person stops fighting it.I try to draw hope from history. Remember Churchill's "Blood, Toil, Tears, and Sweat" speech and it's famous lines (given when France was in the midst of falling to the Germans):
We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France,

we shall fight on the seas and oceans,

we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be.

We shall fight on the beaches,

we shall fight on the landing grounds,

we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,

we shall fight in the hills;

we shall never surrender!

Posted by: The Drunken Conservative at February 18, 2011 05:05 PM (EffI7)

207 There's no such thing as a bad cut.
Posted by: nickless at February 18, 2011 05:04 PM (MMC8r)

Does the word "circumcision" ring a bell?

Posted by: nevergiveup at February 18, 2011 05:05 PM (7wmOW)

208 Eh. I'm tired of arguing. It's all a negotiating position until we take the Senate and the presidency anyway. Grab a liter of Valu-Rite and take the edge off, folks, it's too early in the year to surrender.

Posted by: joncelli at February 18, 2011 05:05 PM (RD7QR)

209 "...Cantor is a token Jew..."

"But for Prez, we need to figure out how to get Saracuda's negatives down..."

Posted by: smarty at February 18, 2011 05:03 PM (cSJrw)

You might want to work on that nickname a bit.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at February 18, 2011 05:05 PM (LH6ir)

210 I'd like to handcuff Joe Lieberman to Eric Cantor's ankle and throw 'em both in a deep mikvah.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at February 18, 2011 05:06 PM (UlUS4)

211 There will be no Republican defeat of Obama if this is how they want to proceed.

Whoa, fella. Defeat? Too radical.

Posted by: pragmatic Republicans at February 18, 2011 05:06 PM (AZGON)

212 @191
Did you misread?

"Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind.), a former chairman of the GOP conference, spoke in strong support of the measure."

Meaning, he supported the additional $22B in cuts.

Posted by: Y-not at February 18, 2011 05:06 PM (pW2o8)

213 I don't have a problem with this, as I don't like across the board cuts either.

If they come back with amendments covering additional SPECIFIC cuts totaling $22B, I will be very happy.

Posted by: Reno_Dave at February 18, 2011 05:06 PM (5dlyN)

214 This is so, so disappointing. I'm so disgusted with the GOP. I think there's a formidable push from conservatives (don't know wtf happened to Noem here), in the House and hopefully in '12, the Senate. But will it be enough...soon enough.

Man, Ace. You've got me on the ledge this week. Prezzy Dumbshit's reign has only been 2 years so far. Sweet Jesus, it feels like 10. No joke.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 18, 2011 05:07 PM (x9xik)

215 Does the word "circumcision" ring a bell?

Been there. Frankly, I needed a trim.

Posted by: nickless at February 18, 2011 05:07 PM (MMC8r)

216 @ 194 ,

This Chakra mess will take a while to clean down .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 18, 2011 05:08 PM (npr0X)

217 "Republican opponents of the proposal cited the across-the-board nature
of the cuts, saying they dodge difficult choices and would allow the
Obama administration to decide where to implement them.".
Sounds effin' reasonable to me.

Posted by: Tom at February 18, 2011 05:08 PM (MWXXs)

218 So boned.

Posted by: Farmer Joe at February 18, 2011 05:08 PM (ZGhSU)

219 It's all a negotiating position until we take the Senate and the presidency anyway.

Except for raising the debt ceiling. We own the fucking hammer of doom. Don't let any Republican say we don't.

Posted by: toby928™ at February 18, 2011 05:08 PM (GTbGH)

220 BTW, I had a feeling we were circling the drain when we decided to let Boehner and McConnel have their leadership roles back after they led us to the catastrophic losses of 2006 and 2008.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at February 18, 2011 05:09 PM (mABIe)

221 You know what also doesn't make sense? Rep. Steve King complained that his amendments weren't going to be allowed. Well, both of his ObamaCare amendments were used and the entirety of language included. He completely defunded ObamaCare, added another amendment, and 2 other amendments were added to that. So I don't understand why he was complaining.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 05:09 PM (yfJ6g)

222 Ella: "That was my Rubicon and the GOP blew it to smithereens."

Mine was Comprehensive POS aka Amnesty I. And, yes, I voted Perot back in the day, too, so my distrust of The Party began a looong time ago. But you work with what you have. If the opportunity arises, challenge it. If no other option than GOP, then go with it until you don't have to. If even dumping a RINO works for long-term strategy, then do it. Person, not Party. Parties are not to be trusted. Maybe not even some sipping TEA.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 18, 2011 05:09 PM (swuwV)

223 Hey lets be honest 100 billion is just a drop in the bucket. I mean I think this extra 22 billion was a start but it's not like that was gonna put us over the top. But it is depressing that it split the Republicans. It does not bold well for the future

Posted by: nevergiveup at February 18, 2011 05:09 PM (7wmOW)

224 194
>>>Why did you stop writing about the war, the glorious war?

because your boy Obama is murdering enough peaceful foreigners. I love
me all the drone strikes he's ordering against peaceful sovereign
foreigners. I love how he signed an execution warrant against a
peaceful US citizen who committed no crime.

Love it, erg. Fucking love it. Do you love it? Do you love when he KILLS? Fuck, he gives me death-erections.

It's like all the killing of Cheney with none of the right-wing rudeness
of it. It's so civilized. No one ever objects. I FUCKING LOVE IT!!!

Do you> Do YOU?

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 05:02 PM (nj1bB)
Damn, ace. You just gave me a major tingle. And not in my leg.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2011 05:09 PM (UOM48)

225 The economy will fall apart without it?
Thing is, it is lazy.
Say I have a deal with NASCAR for $7million to promote recruiting. I ask for the appropriation but they cut it,say, 8% as part of across-the-board cuts. Now, no deal with NASCAR.
I'm not broken-hearted about this since I think they should just kick all the money back and not spend it at all. But cutting across-the-board leaves too much on the table for the Executive to "clean up".

Posted by: spongeworthy at February 18, 2011 05:09 PM (rplL3)

226 Okay, I don't have any gold, but I'm with the small minority that says it won't matter once the collapse comes anyway- that we'll largely be on a barter economy until a new Society is established.

I do, technically, own a gun, but I don't think that's going to be enough...

On the other hand, my family owns a Farm in West Texas, and it could be made into a working farm again in very short order.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 18, 2011 05:10 PM (8y9MW)

227 There are two ways that this might be a good thing.

First, it may force the Republicans who opposed an across-the-board cut to propose specific cuts totaling the same $22 billion.

Second, it may serve as a "ratchet," where the Democrats think they've achieved a victory by stopping the $22 billion and stop fighting so hard against the other $78 billion.

Either of those would avoid this being a clusterflux.

Posted by: stuiec at February 18, 2011 05:10 PM (nWPRC)

228 If they come back with amendments covering additional SPECIFIC cuts totaling $22B, I will be very happy.
But can they do that? I thought the rules they were operating under required the cuts to be proposed at the correct part of the budget. I thought they were reading all 360-odd (?) pages of the damned thing and requiring amendments be made at the relevant part of the budget... and with the numbers to back it up (ie: how much would be saved). Isn't that why the guy who wanted to defund Obama's TOTUS had to pull his amendment (he didn't have the numbers)?

Posted by: Y-not at February 18, 2011 05:10 PM (pW2o8)

229 Anyone watching Fox? There's a union douche in the WI capitol screaming
in the face of the Fox reporter, "Fox lies!!!!11111!!!! Fox
lies!!!1111!!!!"

Some crazy teacher in the post office this afternoon at 2:30pm was screaming that the NYT, NBC and ABC lie, and you can only trust Democracy Now. He had it all down, "tax the rich" and "lie us into war." 33 years teaching science.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at February 18, 2011 05:10 PM (mHQ7T)

230 Damn guys its a beautiful day outside. Sunny nice wweather. Go outside ace cheer up. If that doesn't work go to a bar and pick up a fat chick with low self esteem you can treat like shit for a night.

Posted by: Mr Pink at February 18, 2011 05:10 PM (FL82x)

231 I cant fxckin believe this. not fer nuthin but this is why I think HRC has a shot in 16. these doofuses in the GOP Party apparatus who DO NOT GET IT.

Why are we fighting in WI if these dumbasses will not CUT what they PROMISED.

Why did we work so hard if they call us LAZY at the first real chance to show their stripes?

and Kristi Noem's 'star' is burnt out already. she traded her spine for a leadership call pretty damned fast.

Posted by: ginaswo at February 18, 2011 05:11 PM (1bUkX)

232 If that doesn't work go to a bar and pick up a fat chick with low self esteem you can treat like shit for a night.

Posted by: Mr Pink at February 18, 2011 05:10 PM (FL82x)
With my luck, it would be erg's mom.

Posted by: nickless at February 18, 2011 05:12 PM (MMC8r)

233 BTW, I had a feeling we were circling the drain when we decided to let Boehner and McConnel have their leadership roles back
Question: How many times has leadership changed hands mid session?

Don't knock it, it's a really good fantasy.

Posted by: Follower of Cthulhu at February 18, 2011 05:12 PM (F/4zf)

234 Posted by: nevergiveup at February 18, 2011 05:09 PM (7wmOW)

If you can't get the drop out of the bucket, why do you think you'll be able to siphon out the rest?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 18, 2011 05:12 PM (8y9MW)

235 230 Damn guys its a beautiful day outside. Sunny nice wweather. Go outside ace cheer up. If that doesn't work go to a bar and pick up a fat chick with low self esteem you can treat like shit for a night.
Posted by: Mr Pink at February 18, 2011 05:10 PM (FL82x)

Hey! I didn't treat her like shit! (What?)

Posted by: joncelli at February 18, 2011 05:13 PM (RD7QR)

236 I've often wondered when people would wise up to both political parties. Want to know why the GOP runs RINOs instead of true conservatives, even when a conservative could win? They're not interested in gaining majorities in order to promote conservative government. They just want to gain majorities in Congress so the special interests shovel money to them instead of the Democrats. The party in power gets the cash. That's all they want. Just. That. Simple. Thinking otherwise is foolish.

Posted by: bob at February 18, 2011 05:13 PM (quxiz)

237 Does somebody actually have the text, or are we going to keep arguing when nobody here has read the fucking amendment for themselves? I'll go for kicking ass and taking names when I've seen the bloody amendment.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 05:14 PM (yfJ6g)

238 Don't knock it, it's a really good fantasy.

It gave me a tingle.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 18, 2011 05:14 PM (8y9MW)

239 If you can't get the drop out of the bucket, why do you think you'll be able to siphon out the rest?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 18, 2011 05:12 PM (8y9MW)

Personally I'd just kick the bucket. I mean kick it over.

Posted by: nevergiveup at February 18, 2011 05:14 PM (7wmOW)

240 Go outside ace cheer up. If that doesn't work go to a bar and pick up a fat chick with low self esteem you can treat like shit for a night.
Oooh, you're taking me on a Picnic?

Posted by: Meghan McCain at February 18, 2011 05:14 PM (sHj00)

241 I'm not surprised about Noem. She's a Thune protege and was hand picked by the Establishment to run as a Tea Party type. Guess that scam is busted.

Posted by: Mr. Diddy Wah Diddy at February 18, 2011 05:14 PM (wBW0k)

242 Uh, what were the cuts? I can't jump whole hog onto the slicing bandwagon unless I know what they were? Even though I'd like to just say cut everything and start over.

Posted by: dagny at February 18, 2011 05:15 PM (l3g1A)

243 Okay. Weak joke. Going home. See you on the ONT.

Posted by: joncelli at February 18, 2011 05:15 PM (RD7QR)

244 I think it moved!

Posted by: George Costanza at February 18, 2011 05:15 PM (sHj00)

245 @240 - Sock fail. Of her many shortcomings, a lack of self-esteem does not make the list.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 18, 2011 05:15 PM (8y9MW)

246 Take it easy Ace. This sounds like inside baseball stuff. Sometimes you got to vote against something before you can vote for it.

Posted by: Stopped Being A Republican In 2005 at February 18, 2011 05:15 PM (1kwr2)

247 For goodness sake, DRAFT PENCE! We need to acknowledge that he's one of the few in Congress who is serious about this shit. It's not just about punishing the guys who gave us the finger, it's about replacing that tired old shit with something better.
Posted by: Y-not at February 18, 2011 04:57 PM (pW2o

Oh, hell yeah!!!
I don't think it was his choice not to run. It was probably the RNC who told him he needed 4 years as a governor.
Fuck all that. He's got plenty of experience, especially with his committee assignments.
Does he have kids??? Let's kidnap them and force him into it.
(Umm...I feel the need lately to have to make the statement that that was a joke)
Seriously, though?? He needs to tell the RNC to fuck off. I just know we're going to be stuck with Mittens because it's his turn.

Posted by: beedubya at February 18, 2011 05:16 PM (AnTyA)

248 After that, I wanted a beer, and we have 65 degree weather here in NYC. So, my husband and I went to a bar with a great patio, and there was this loud gay men with the creepiest Boston terriers. One was like Rachel in Pet Semetary, all deformed and crippled. It couldn't move its hind legs and had a twisted and ridged spine, poor thing. The other was fat and mean. We went out back to sip our beers, and this dog followed us and started biting at us. So, I beamed it in the face with a snowball, but it kept charging till I eventually drove it back.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at February 18, 2011 05:16 PM (mHQ7T)

249 You know what we need, more moderates like Daniels! Heck Ya!

Posted by: MJH at February 18, 2011 05:17 PM (kBLec)

250 Look at it this way, after John Boners crying act is worn out, next in line for Speaker is Eric Cantor!

If you like your weak and treacherous GOP, you can keep your weak and treacherous GOP.

Posted by: Mr. Diddy Wah Diddy at February 18, 2011 05:18 PM (wBW0k)

251 Ace is bailing way too quickly. However, I would endorse a targeted third-party run to make sure a few of these do not get another term (knee-jerk reaction would be Cantor and McCarthy, but there are likely more deserving targets). Limit everything else to primaries, but put a few high-profile heads on pikes just to make sure the point comes across. As long as conservatives maintain their majority after 2012, I think we can deal with strategically tossing a few squishes to the wolves.

Oh dear... was that uncivil?

Posted by: JSchuler at February 18, 2011 05:18 PM (yKEQc)

252 Its even worse than you say, because they are cuts from 2010 levels which are absurdly higher than 2008 levels.

They haven't really cut anything from the long term growth path... they are phonies and must be primaried.

Posted by: Doc Merlin at February 18, 2011 05:18 PM (TC/9F)

253 It would be nice, Ace, if you understood the complexities of what just occurred there. You continue to make rash assessments with only a cursory comprehension of the facts.

Posted by: Brian at February 18, 2011 05:18 PM (sYrWB)

254 Note to Eric Cantor: If you find yourself voting with Jim Moran you are doing it wrong.

Posted by: dagny at February 18, 2011 05:18 PM (l3g1A)

255 I'd love to see Paul Ryan, Mike Pence, and Chris Christie form a splinter group (The Real Republican Party or something like that). Serious fiscal conservatives, all in one place.

Posted by: Farmer Joe at February 18, 2011 05:18 PM (ZGhSU)

256 erg, do you remember when war and killing peaceful foreigners was WRONG? Don't you love, as I love, that since January 2009 it's become WONDERFULLY RIGHT to murder people?

I love that. I fucking love it. I jerk over it, erg. I love how just having your boy doing the killing makes murder all right with you.

That's the one benefit of a leftist cocksucker president -- all the other leftist cocksuckers are suddenly okay with state murder.

I.

LOVE.

IT.

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 05:19 PM (nj1bB)

257 Yeah, I need to the the amendment.

Posted by: dagny at February 18, 2011 05:19 PM (l3g1A)

258 Ace
You seem to be the only source on the "Obamacare defunding was only symbolic" thing. I looked around at the usual places and no one else seems to be taking it that way. Can you provide some sort of link?

Posted by: Y-not at February 18, 2011 05:20 PM (pW2o8)

259 Sock fail. Of her many shortcomings, a lack of self-esteem does not make the list.
Politics killed more than my Libido.

Posted by: Meghan McCain at February 18, 2011 05:20 PM (sHj00)

260 Ace is bailing way too quickly. However, I would endorse a targeted third-party run to make sure a few of these do not get another term
Sorry, no 3rd party runs. Primary challenges? Oh yah! Let's start the shitlist right now on this vote.
3rd parties? A joke.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 18, 2011 05:20 PM (ujg0T)

261 Lets primary these SOB's

Posted by: **** at February 18, 2011 05:20 PM (TC/9F)

262 >>>You seem to be the only source on the "Obamacare defunding was only symbolic" thing. I looked around at the usual places and no one else seems to be taking it that way. Can you provide some sort of link?

can't, no, chris wallace said it on fox.

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 05:21 PM (nj1bB)

263 She's a Thune protege and was hand picked by the Establishment to run as a Tea Party type.

Funny, you'd think if the tea party could have claimed some winners, they would have love Noem. I heard about her on Huffington Post when she was voted hottest freshman. Obama leads Palin by eight in South Dakota.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at February 18, 2011 05:21 PM (mHQ7T)

264 Here's the thing. Even if there is some sort of inside baseball explanation, the fucking GOP Leadership should have gotten in front on that and spared us this drama. Instead, the usual sources have gone mute and we are left with no explanation for why some voted with it and some against it.

And another thign. If it was a badly constructed amendment, the leadership should have either persuaded Jordan to rewrite it or proposed a different one. Do they control the agenda or not?

Posted by: Y-not at February 18, 2011 05:22 PM (pW2o8)

265 Because we can do socialism better than them!!

Posted by: The GOP at February 18, 2011 05:22 PM (L1TBT)

266 Hi, my pager just started vibrating. Is my table ready?

Posted by: The Apocalypse at February 18, 2011 05:23 PM (lGFXF)

267 Did I mention DRAFT PENCE?!

Posted by: Y-not at February 18, 2011 05:23 PM (pW2o8)

268 I called Mr. Jordan's office. The intern wasn't sure as to who got to make the cuts. He referred me to both the Clerk's and the RSC's website, as I told him thomas.gov was not available.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 05:23 PM (yfJ6g)

269 erg, come back and talk about how wonderful it is that Gitmo can remain an illegal prison for innocent men FOREVER and no one complains anymore.

Please tell me how YOU feel about this, all those drone strikes in peaceful villages, hot ring of superheated gas from an explosion shearing the limbs of peaceful islamic villagers engaging in folk basket-weaving and indigenous mixed-media art installations.

Do you love how much blood is on your hands? They're dripping. You know what that's good for? That's right, you jerk off with it, like I do. It's fucking AWESOME.

I can't wait until Obama executes that US Citizen (convicted of no crime with no tribunal finding anything at all against him). I'll jerk off six times that day, I vow.

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 05:24 PM (nj1bB)

270 Tea Party/third party I think not good. Take over the GOP. It's early yet, give it time....

Also.... mental image to make you smile...

just think of your 70's crush on Kristie McNicol..... ahhh... that's better... does it for me every time.

Posted by: yip at February 18, 2011 05:24 PM (SyLEU)

271 Isn't all of this, the whole budget thing, an illusion? I mean, c'mon people. Do you really think a dem. senatemajority is going to approve this, let alone Dear Leader actually signing it into law? This battle is just starting. We reallywon't have any irons in the fire until we, at least, have a senate majority.

Posted by: Soona at February 18, 2011 05:25 PM (1VLfs)

272 I don't think it was his choice not to run. It was probably the RNC who told him he needed 4 years as a governor.

See, the DNC is much better. They proudly run inexperienced, never-ran-a-lemonade-stand Marxist idiots and they're just fine with it!

I was really crushed when Pence withdrew his consideration for a 2012 run. We need him SO badly. Four years as governor, but what good will that do when we no longer have a country?

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 18, 2011 05:25 PM (x9xik)

273 Remember back in the olden days when keeping Gitmo open was a war crime? Now they're looking to hold new trials there. Weird.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 18, 2011 05:25 PM (t60fX)

274 Barack does like the UAV's.

Posted by: Michelle Obama's Landing Strip at February 18, 2011 05:25 PM (sHj00)

275 Please tell me how YOU feel about this, all those drone strikes in peaceful villages, hot ring of superheated gas from an explosion shearing the limbs of peaceful islamic villagers engaging in folk basket-weaving and indigenous mixed-media art installations.

Well, I don't know about ergie, but I'M starting to plump.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 18, 2011 05:27 PM (lGFXF)

276 If there is one thing I have observed about this Congress so far, it is that they know they are being watched.

Before we form the circular firing squad, let's let Cantor and others at least try to explain themselves. They have to know what the response to this will be. If they can't explain, then fire away!

Posted by: pep at February 18, 2011 05:27 PM (P18+/)

277 Curmudgeon, the point of the third party is not to get a third party in, but to clean out the dead weight. You take out the squishy republican incumbent, who would have to be in a conservative district anyway for this to work, by intentionally splitting the republican vote, throw in a dem benchwarmer for two years, then replace him with a real Republican conservative. As long as you have the seats to maintain your majority for those two years, you lose nothing, and you trade up at the end.

Posted by: JSchuler at February 18, 2011 05:28 PM (yKEQc)

278 Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 05:19 PM (nj1bB)
Me too.
Hey Ergie, I'm watching war-porn of drone strikes at Weasel Zippers, and I'm furiously pulling my pud to video of the mangled corpses of the "peaceful foreigners" flying through the air. Does this please you Ergie? Really, I'm beating my dick like it owes me money, Ergie. I'll be thinking about it later tonight while I'm fucking your mom too. I like to pretend my cock is a hellfire missile and she's a "peaceful foreigner" while I'm plowing her, Ergie.

Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at February 18, 2011 05:28 PM (mABIe)

279 @275

I LULZ'd.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2011 05:28 PM (AZGON)

280 Remember when Obama said he was going to have the most transparent administration in history? Now he's having lobbyists sign non-disclosure agreements. I'm having a tough time recociling the two, maybe erg can help me out with that one.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 18, 2011 05:28 PM (t60fX)

281 274 You just made me vomit. For that, imagine suckling from that beast's saggy milk duds.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at February 18, 2011 05:29 PM (mHQ7T)

282 Posted by: Soona at February 18, 2011 05:25 PM (1VLfs)

It's a bargaining position, though. If you start from "half way" then you end up 3/4 of the way. We needed to start at 0. Zero dollars for anything not absolutely necessary for the Federal Government as defined by the Constitution (Yes, that should have been the starting point: including SS, Medicare, and Medicaid). THEN we should have walked back.

However, starting at a pre-walked-back position, means they'll get most of what they want instead of just half.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 18, 2011 05:29 PM (8y9MW)

283 Put not your trust in princes. They will drive you crazy. Or imprison you. Or impoverish you. Or, worse.

Posted by: mrp at February 18, 2011 05:30 PM (HjPtV)

284 Oh hell, remember when His Earflaps first stumbled into the Oval Office? He signed that executive order preventing lobbyists from serving as WH staff... and in less than 24 hours he signed about a dozen waivers to let lobbyists in.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2011 05:31 PM (AZGON)

285 Shit, did I miss a classic troll beatdown? I'm gone for an hour and all heck breaks loose around here.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 18, 2011 05:31 PM (b6qrg)

286 Fuck, he gives me death-erections.
Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 05:02 PM (nj1bB)
I love getting those. Though as I age they come less frequently, and it takes some really grade-A killing. Afterward I like to smoke demon tobacco and eat red meat.

Posted by: Reactionary at February 18, 2011 05:31 PM (4nbyM)

287 Ok, honestly now, I give up.
I will not live under a tyranny. However, it is far too late to choose. It is a fiat accompli - we all live under a government in rebellion against the Constitution. In other words, Tyranny has already taken off its' boots and is now rummaging through your fridge and eating all the pudding cups.
This proves the government is now illegitimate and in rebellion. Every one of the dems should be deported after being found 'in rebellion' as in Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
But that's not going to happen. We're slaves.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at February 18, 2011 05:31 PM (lNoeo)

288 Let's not start cutting our wrists just yet.
First off, whatever the House bill looks like, no matter how much it proposes to cut spending- it's not getting through the Senate as-is. Even if it did, it'll get vetoed.
The spending bill is essentially a symbolic gesture, and it's not finished yet. There might well be a better way to cut $22 billion than an across the board reduction; I don't know.
Still, we should ask for as high a spending reduction as we can from a negotiation standpoint- the Dems in the Senate and Obama ain't going to give us everything we ask for.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 18, 2011 05:32 PM (SY2Kh)

289 Remember, ergie sez Reagan was out to bankrupt the country so's we evil Republicans could cut his social security which he gets for being a retard.

Of course, ergie can't explain why St. Obama is fucking the deficit to stratospheric heights. Could ergie believe the 'Obama is the next Reagan' meme somewhere in that sheep scrotum he calls a brain?

Posted by: nickless at February 18, 2011 05:32 PM (MMC8r)

290 Before we form the circular firing squad, let's let Cantor and others at least try to explain themselves.

Ummm... no. They did, indeed, have to know what the response was this was going to be. They also had to (or should have) known that this was going to be submitted as an amendment. They should have started laying the groundwork for their positions before this happened, and should have released statements within 15 minutes after the vote.

It's not very hard for an insider to come up with a plausible sounding explanation to an outsider with enough time. I bet we all do it to deflect explosions at work all the time. What's important is their immediate reaction- and that seems to be a stony silence that sounds a whole lot like: "'Shut up,' they explained."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 18, 2011 05:32 PM (8y9MW)

291 Tyranny has already taken off its' boots and is now rummaging through your fridge and eating all the pudding cups.

You don't have any beer. Get me beer. And the good stuff from Germany, not that Milwaukee swill. Get moving, mister.

Posted by: Tyranny at February 18, 2011 05:33 PM (AZGON)

292 Time for some spin.
Yes, the R leadership and half of the membership wussed-out.Maybe there are or were some political niceties to be observed, or necessary rules tactics to follow, or something.I'm not buying, but OK. Vent.
Now, Plan B.
It's clear what the American public wants, and it isn't more spending,or even a no-increases budget.Those that blocked the cuts need to be named in 2012. My guess is that the inflation of the next 12 months will get the public's attitude adjusted and a lot of incumbents will lose.
In the meantime, a lot of R's need to see exactly what "non-cooperation" means. The freshmen R's may need to tie Congress in knots, derail any D or R amendments and bills that they dislike, refuse to negotiate, maybe even shut down the government.
Get very public about who did what, and why. Leak. Force real transparency. Force the otherside to cooperate.

Posted by: Arbalest at February 18, 2011 05:34 PM (C3PB9)

293 I figured Ace's post was just an act of frustration and he wanted morons to talk him down.

This moron ain't gonna do it. Ace has the X-ray vision going right now. Clarity is valuable.

Oh and this:

No fucking way I support these assholes. They conned me.

Posted by: Mr. Diddy Wah Diddy at February 18, 2011 05:34 PM (wBW0k)

294 in less than 24 hours he signed about a dozen waivers to let lobbyists in.
Remember Us!?

Posted by: PayGo and the 111th Congress at February 18, 2011 05:34 PM (sHj00)

295 Curmudgeon, the point of the third party is not to get a third party in, but to clean out the dead weight. You take out the squishy republican incumbent, who would have to be in a conservative district anyway for this to work, by intentionally splitting the republican vote, throw in a dem benchwarmer for two years, then replace him with a real Republican conservative. As long as you have the seats to maintain your majority for those two years, you lose nothing, and you trade up at the end.
You can do the same with a primary challenge, and not waste political energy on a 3rd party. See Castle, Mike vs. O'Donnell, Christine.
Was it a general election disaster? Yep. But you bet it sent a message.
You take out the squishy republican incumbent, who would have to be in a conservative district anyway for this to work,
If you have a conservative district, then WHY NOT JUST GET A REAL CONSERVATIVE for the primary?
I say it again--3rd parties are masturbatory wastes of political capital, energy and time.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 18, 2011 05:35 PM (ujg0T)

296 I haven't read all of this but didn't they say they were going hunting in all of these folks' closets? Every time I hear that you wonder if they've been finding stuff and thus control the "narrative" and the vote.

Posted by: / at February 18, 2011 05:35 PM (p302b)

297 Posted by: nickless at February 18, 2011 05:12 PM (MMC8r)

Well, if you like anal sex that might not be bad. After all, that's how erg was conceived.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at February 18, 2011 05:35 PM (LH6ir)

298 This proves the government is now illegitimate and in rebellion. Every one of the dems should be deported after being found 'in rebellion' as in Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
But that's not going to happen. We're slaves.
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at February 18, 2011 05:31 PM (lNoeo)
Deportation is for their families. The traitors themselves need a dirt nap.

Posted by: Reactionary at February 18, 2011 05:35 PM (4nbyM)

299 Many might apply Occam's razor to this vote. Occam says we've been screwed, straight up, no kiss, no grease, no dinner.

Posted by: maddogg at February 18, 2011 05:35 PM (OlN4e)

300 Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 18, 2011 05:35 PM (ujg0T)

The other point of a 3rd party is to register your displeasure with the Party itself. Which you can't do with a Primary challenge.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 18, 2011 05:36 PM (8y9MW)

301 I haven't read all of this but didn't they say they were going hunting in all of these folks' closets? Every time I hear that you wonder if they've been finding stuff and thus control the "narrative" and the vote.
You know, it *wouldn't* surprise me if the Commiecrats had something like this.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 18, 2011 05:37 PM (ujg0T)

302 We have to pass the Congress through my gut to find out what's digestible in it.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at February 18, 2011 05:37 PM (AZGON)

303 erg,

UGGGHHHH... I've got a kill-boner now just thinking about the HUNDREDS of people murdered without so much as a finding of guilt from an international tribunal. And all the maimings. AND THE COLLATERAL DAMAGE -- they shack up with their wives and children! And we KILL THEM ALL!!!

Do you love gettin' your MURDER-ON like me?

BARACK OBAMA YOU MADE KILLING COOL AGAIN I LOVE YOU FOR THAT

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 05:37 PM (nj1bB)

304 Rep. Blackburn's staffer said Appropriations made a stand because it would have required them to go back and find more money. He also referred me to the GOP Conference's website:

Amendment No. 104—Rep. Jordan (R-OH): The amendment
would perform a 5.5 percent across-the-board cut of all accounts in
eight non-security divisions of the CR; and an 11 percent
across-the-board cut of all accounts in the Legislative Branch bill.
The amendment would not cut any funding for Israel.

But this is not the actual text, is my understanding. Anyway, he says he's been fielding a few phone calls about this issue and I can tell there is no lost love between Appropriations and the RSC.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 05:37 PM (yfJ6g)

305 I declare 2012 the year of the Libertarian. I may have to put up with dope smoking hippies, but at least they're penny-pinching dope smoking hippies.

Who's with me?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 18, 2011 05:37 PM (8y9MW)

306 Do you love gettin' your MURDER-ON like me?

It is Friday night .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 18, 2011 05:40 PM (npr0X)

307 If there's anything better than watching Ace go into full on gloat mode, I don't know what it is.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 18, 2011 05:40 PM (SY2Kh)

308 I say it again--3rd parties are masturbatory wastes of political capital, energy and time.
I still want my political draft: Um, sorry sir (or madam, as the case may be), the people have spoken. You have demonstrated your support for conservative causes on more than one occasion. For your good words, we are nominating you for President.
Whether you like it or not.
Bolton/Pence, Pence/Bolton, West/Rubio, Rubio/West, you get the idea. We're going tits up faster than I've ever seen anything happen before in my life.
Our own government has officially turned against us.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 18, 2011 05:40 PM (b6qrg)

309 Someone, somewhere, PLEASE tell a Congressperson with a lick of sense that it is very, veryfoolish to take away all hope, continuity, tradition, and expectations of liberty from over 200 million people, most of whom can hit a man-sized target at over 500 yards if it has antlers. While hungover.
Tell them that the thing to avoid is making those people feel like they have nothing more to lose.
Ask them to use their fucking imaginations.Then slap them in the face for letting it get this bad.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at February 18, 2011 05:40 PM (lNoeo)

310 Kristie McNicol

Posted by: yip at February 18, 2011 05:40 PM (SyLEU)

311 at least they're penny-pinching dope smoking hippies.

We're already high as a kite... on life! Well, on power, actually. The penny-pinching part sounds too extreme.

Posted by: Your Republican friends in DC at February 18, 2011 05:41 PM (AZGON)

312
ace, yer killin' me here. And you called Barry "boy". Heh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2011 05:41 PM (UOM48)

313 I just gotta say 'Killboner' would be a helluva name for a band.

Posted by: nickless at February 18, 2011 05:41 PM (MMC8r)

314 How extremely unusual that erg won't respond despite getting called out in Eleventy!!!Font. This is unprecedented.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 18, 2011 05:42 PM (swuwV)

315 Okay, I give up. I wanted to give this two party system a try. Forget it. It's time for a third party, the Tea Party.

Then the Democrats have won, and America will die.

Grow up, Ace.

Posted by: JASmius at February 18, 2011 05:42 PM (v+R5I)

316 276 If there is one thing I have observed about this Congress so far, it is that they know they are being watched. Before we form the circular firing squad, let's let Cantor and others at least try to explain themselves. They have to know what the response to this will be. If they can't explain, then fire away!
Posted by: pep at February 18, 2011 05:27 PM (P18+/)
I don't completely agree with you. Yeah they know they are being watched. So I think getting incredibly pissed off and willing to tell them off with a big "fuck you" is good We should not give them any slack on the leash or let up because the moment we do they're going to make a bolt for it and break the leash with the sudden tension in it.

Posted by: buzzion at February 18, 2011 05:43 PM (oVQFe)

317 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 18, 2011 05:37 PM (8y9MW)

I couldn't handle it. They are so fucking tedious. And...take a look at the broads they have at their meetings compared to some of the hot Republican chicks. Although they might put out quicker.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at February 18, 2011 05:43 PM (LH6ir)

318 pls tweet these GOP critters your displeasure so they SEE the IMMEDIATE reaction and hopefully get their shxt together.

Posted by: ginaswo at February 18, 2011 05:43 PM (1bUkX)

319 Curmudgeon, while it's possible to do it in a primary, it is much harder. In a primary challenge, you need to get 51% of all voters to back your candidate. In a third party challenge, you only need to shave off a couple percentage points off the incumbent to get him tossed out. You could do that with 1/10th of the number of voters that you'd need in a primary, and then you'd have a textbook case the next time the election rolls around for why a RINO won't win.

Sure, if you know you can do it, primary. But if not...

That's why I called for targeted third-party races.

Posted by: JSchuler at February 18, 2011 05:43 PM (yKEQc)

320 313
I just gotta say 'Killboner' would be a helluva name for a band.

Actually, it would make an excellent surname.

"Ace Killboner"

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2011 05:43 PM (UOM48)

321 Presidents' Day lets Ace have a three day murder spree. Transients beware.

Posted by: toby928™ at February 18, 2011 05:43 PM (GTbGH)

322 Mommy, Can I Go Out and Kill Tonight?

Posted by: the Misfits at February 18, 2011 05:44 PM (sHj00)

323 Suck it!

Posted by: The Ruling Class at February 18, 2011 05:44 PM (dKCBV)

324 Killboner? At least it's brief. Our name is a bit too long.

Posted by: The Magnificent Bugnutting Bonefuckers, onstage at 8PM at February 18, 2011 05:44 PM (AZGON)

325 So I guess I'm calling Rep. Kingston and the Majority Leader next, and I have a feeling what I'm going to be told. All I know is that the 2 phone calls I've made indicate there is fighting on the R side right now.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 05:44 PM (yfJ6g)

326 erg, when I'm fucking your piece of shit loser punk-ass son up the ass, steadying my ashtray between his shoulderblades, I watch compilation vids of Obama murdering children in ghoulish green nightvision.

I bust nut like a 600 pound squirrel.

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 05:44 PM (nj1bB)

327 The other point of a 3rd party is to register your displeasure with the Party itself. Which you can't do with a Primary challenge.
Oh yes, you can. See "Tea Party Movement".
3rd parties just suck. Every 20 odd years, we get some rumblings of 3rd parties. Their history is to:
1. Be co-opted by one of the other two parties.
a) AIP of 1968 by GOP, leading to bona fide Southern Republicans by 1980
b) "Progressive" and Socialist Parties by Democrats
2. Implode when the charismatic leader has feet of clay or is crazy. See Perot, Ross. (Arguably some Perot ideas were co-opted by Newt Gingrich as well).
Anglo-American electoral systems, the worst ones except for all the others, tend to enforce a 2 party system. The parliamentary Anglo systems can allow a sustained 3rd party, but the USA Presidential/Congressional system guarantees two parties.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 18, 2011 05:45 PM (ujg0T)

328 Is anyone else actually calling anyone now, or just ranting on the Interwebs?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 05:45 PM (yfJ6g)

329 It's a bargaining position, though. If you start from "half way" then you end up 3/4 of the way. We needed to start at 0. Zero dollars for anything not absolutely necessary for the Federal Government as defined by the Constitution (Yes, that should have been the starting point: including SS, Medicare, and Medicaid). THEN we should have walked back.However, starting at a pre-walked-back position, means they'll get most of what they want instead of just half.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 18, 2011 05:29 PM (8y9MW)

I understand. But my point is is that the democrats in the senate and Dear Leader aren'treally going tonegotiate. They're in beat-down mode. That's why little Nan is so confident about a government shutdown. The dem majority in the senate is going to debate this until, oh, say March 2nd, vote to remove most of the cuts, and then send it back to the House. The 2010continuing budget resolution runs out March 4. What's the House going to do then?

Posted by: Soona at February 18, 2011 05:45 PM (1VLfs)

330 326
erg, when I'm fucking your piece of shit loser punk-ass son up the ass,
steadying my ashtray between his shoulderblades, I watch compilation
vids of Obama murdering children in ghoulish green nightvision.

I bust nut like a 600 pound squirrel.

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 05:44 PM (nj1bB)

Damn, ace. I'm beyond shocked. I thought you gave up smoking.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2011 05:46 PM (UOM48)

331 So the sucker thing that is pure political theater they did. The real thing, cutting other stuff, they won't do.

Republicans lie and deceive just like Democrats.

And it doesn't win voter confidence finding out you've been snookered again.

It doesn't do America justice to promote lying. Rather, exposing the lies, as tiring as that is, matters. And never relenting to the lie matters. The truth shall set you free. It matters to insist on accuracy.

As hard as organizing a "new party" would be, is it really that much harder to simply rally behind the Ron Paul and Rand Paul economic agenda? What's the point of reinventing the Dollar, giving it up to a globalist monetary system, when the Dollar value and our strong national economy already have valid function via Austrian Economics.

Posted by: maverick muse at February 18, 2011 05:46 PM (H+LJc)

332 ahhh. happy days are here, again!

Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2011 05:46 PM (sHj00)

333 Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 05:44 PM (nj1bB)
Now that's some funny shit right there.

Posted by: maddogg at February 18, 2011 05:47 PM (OlN4e)

334 I'm still waiting for Michelle Malkin to put me some phone numbers.

A lot of these people we don't need. We primary them and if we don't win the primary we go third party ANYWAY-- we can do this tactically with 30 of them. If we lose the seats, fine, we only need 218. And we'll scare the shit out of the rest.

We can in fact afford to deliberately tank these guys. We have some latitude in our numbers.

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 05:47 PM (nj1bB)

335 328
Is anyone else actually calling anyone now, or just ranting on the Interwebs?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 05:45 PM (yfJ6g)

I'll be talking with Kingston over the weekend. Will report back.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2011 05:47 PM (UOM48)

336 I can't wait until Obama executes that US Citizen
(convicted of no crime with no tribunal finding anything at all against
him). I'll jerk off six times that day, I vow.

Posted by: ace

Taking snark to a whole new level. Holy shit Batman.

Posted by: sTevo at February 18, 2011 05:48 PM (VMcEw)

337 Ace is in rare form. I likey.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2011 05:49 PM (UOM48)

338 I bust nut like a 600 pound squirrel.

I'm putting the past tense of that on my tombstone .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 18, 2011 05:49 PM (npr0X)

339 Oh yes, you can. See "Tea Party Movement".

Yes, that's obviously working so well. It worked so well that hard-core Establishment types (representing the Party we were attempting to educate) maintained their leadership positions. Mmhm.

The 2010continuing budget resolution runs out March 4. What's the House going to do then?

You're right. So let it shut down. But, if you actually show willing to do that, and have deep enough cuts, then maybe -just maybe- enough Dems up for reelection will see the proverbial writing on the wall and actually negotiate in good faith. We only need 4 of them to do so. There are 22. Just sayin'

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 18, 2011 05:49 PM (8y9MW)

340 >>I bust nut like a 600 pound squirrel.

Technically, a 600 pound squirrel is an aardvark. Or an anteater. One or the other.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 18, 2011 05:49 PM (TMB3S)

341 Welcome to the independents -- come on in, don't be shy; the water's fiiiine.
I'm not sure a third party would help...but threatening the GOP with the looming threat of losing their core to a third party might not hurt.

Posted by: unknown jane at February 18, 2011 05:49 PM (5/yRG)

342 Killboner - Isn't that Michelle Obama's nickname?

Posted by: smarty at February 18, 2011 05:50 PM (cSJrw)

343 The Majority Leader's phone lines are busy.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 05:50 PM (yfJ6g)

344 The dem majority in the senate is going to debate this until, oh, say March 2nd, vote to remove most of the cuts, and then send it back to the House. The 2010 continuing budget resolution runs out March 4. What's the House going to do then?

Excellent question. Judging from current performance, don't bend over during the ides of March.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2011 05:50 PM (AZGON)

345 I just gotta say 'Killboner' would be a helluva name for a band.Actually, it would make an excellent surname. "Ace Killboner"
Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2011 05:43 PM (UOM4

Sounds more like a TV movie made in a joint venture of SyFy and the Playboy Channel.
LOGLINE: When a bevy of beautiful girls turn up dead in the most horrifying way, police Lt. Darla Sweaterpuppies fears that an ancient Native American prophecy has come true.

Posted by: stuiec at February 18, 2011 05:50 PM (Di3Im)

346 Old and busted: Arms are made for hugging

New Hotness: Obama killed 44 people including six children the last two months

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 05:50 PM (nj1bB)

347 A lot of these people we don't need. We primary them and if we don't win the primary we go third party ANYWAY-- we can do this tactically with 30 of them. If we lose the seats, fine, we only need 218. And we'll scare the shit out of the rest. We can in fact afford to deliberately tank these guys. We have some latitude in our numbers.
A shitlist, please. Spread to the whole dextroblogosphere.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 18, 2011 05:50 PM (ujg0T)

348 Hmmm, maybe we could get those R congress critters who were for the cuts to declare Independent? ("I didn't leave the party; it left me").

Posted by: unknown jane at February 18, 2011 05:51 PM (5/yRG)

349 Or an anteater. One or the other.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 18, 2011 05:49 PM (TMB3S)
My uncle was an anteater. My ant was a happy woman.

Posted by: stuiec at February 18, 2011 05:51 PM (Di3Im)

350 The thing I don't understand is given that Gitmo is still open for business and Obama plans to hold trials there, then why is Obama still killing foreigners at an alarming rate? Is his blood lust that great? How about capturing some of our enemies from time to time? Jeez.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 18, 2011 05:51 PM (t60fX)

351 WAR ENSEMBLE

Posted by: SLAYER! at February 18, 2011 05:51 PM (sHj00)

352 My congresswoman is re-learning how to sing "Mary Had A Little Lamb".
Giffords, ya know.
So calling her would be like yelling at a chipmunk about binary nerve gas.

Posted by: Inspector Asshole at February 18, 2011 05:51 PM (lNoeo)

353 Oh yes, you can. See "Tea Party Movement". Yes, that's obviously working so well. It worked so well that hard-core Establishment types (representing the Party we were attempting to educate) maintained their leadership positions. Mmhm.
And a masturbatory 3rd party, which will take more energy and money, will give usbetter results? Nope, it will give us worse ones.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 18, 2011 05:51 PM (ujg0T)

354 I'm putting the past tense of that on my tombstone .
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 18, 2011 05:49 PM (npr0X)
What is the past tense of 'squirrel'?

Posted by: stuiec at February 18, 2011 05:52 PM (Di3Im)

355 The Tea Party did great in 2010, same recipe, more money and planning in 2012 and 2014 and we will throw the RINO bums out of the GOP and the Socialist bums out of Washington.
Half the RINO bums are showing their true liberal colors after losing primaries anyway, so the Tea Party can just be like the enema the flushes the turds out of the body politic.
Damn I can turn a phrase.

Posted by: smarty at February 18, 2011 05:52 PM (cSJrw)

356 >>What is the past tense of 'squirrel'?

Stew.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 18, 2011 05:53 PM (t60fX)

357 >>What is the past tense of 'squirrel'?

If you're Mike Huckabee, it's last nights dinner.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 18, 2011 05:53 PM (TMB3S)

358 On Friday flaming skulls and Congressional habitual clusterfucks...

There is sexual symbolism in government, too. The male erection of the Washington Monument points right at the ovaries of the Oval Office. The word congre ... just go to a law dictionary and look up the word. Congress is a Latin word for sex. The capital building's dome is the same as the Vatican dome. Caesar ruled Rome from something called Capital Hill. Today we have "congre" on the hill. I feel there will be some very extraordinary events this year that will change the world as we know it. I am not a prophet or a great teacher, just an ordinary man fascinated with wisdom and knowledge that not many people want to know. That's who I am and that's what I do. Thanks for your interest.

Jordan Maxwell

Posted by: maverick muse at February 18, 2011 05:53 PM (H+LJc)

359 Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 18, 2011 05:51 PM (ujg0T)

Not if your point is "Republicans, change or leave." If the question is a slow collapse, or something quick, I'll take something quick.

That's the choice we seem to have between Republicans and Democrats. As long as the RNC, RNSC, Senate and House Republicans believe we're voting for The Party, they'll keep doing the same crap.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 18, 2011 05:53 PM (8y9MW)

360 this is the only fair way to make these cuts which will actually be politically palatable, and so he opposes this measure. He wants to weight each cut individually so that each constituency can come out one-by-one to demagogue the cuts and prevent them.

It's the anti-pork! Looks like pork. Smells like pork. Buys influence like pork. But it has a minus sign in front of it.

Give that man a Nobel Prize!

Posted by: Socratease at February 18, 2011 05:54 PM (Cw79V)

361 I agree O is getting a free pass for killing. If TSP got its own thread then O killing record should have on too.

Posted by: sTevo at February 18, 2011 05:54 PM (VMcEw)

362 You're getting old and slow Jack.

Posted by: Dr Spank at February 18, 2011 05:54 PM (t60fX)

363 New Hotness: Obama killed 44 people including six children the last two months
Hard to tell how many women in there unless you look under the burkas. Honestly,it's just not worth it.

Posted by: Barack Obama Mailing it In at February 18, 2011 05:55 PM (sHj00)

364
"Killboner" is the English translation from Arabic of Helen Thomas nickname.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2011 05:55 PM (UOM48)

365 Ace-It took you longer than I would have hoped-- but you are finally getting it :-)

The only path is for the Tea Party to take over the Republican party. We can't work with the establishment.

They should have been dead to us long ago.

Posted by: Dissapointing at February 18, 2011 05:55 PM (1GGKg)

366 What is the past tense of 'squirrel'?

Dead squirrel ?

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 18, 2011 05:55 PM (npr0X)

367 Sounds more like a TV movie made in a joint venture of SyFy and the Playboy Channel.

LOGLINE: When a bevy of beautiful girls turn up dead in the most horrifying way, police Lt. Darla Sweaterpuppies fears that an ancient Native American prophecy has come true.

---

Next week: When Ace Killboner pursues a famous porn star breaking probation in New Mexico, he stumbles upon a mysterious spacecraft near Area 51, containing a seductive secret. Guest Star: Adrienne Barbeau as Lyra from Planet DD.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2011 05:56 PM (AZGON)

368 As much as I'm enjoying erg getting bitch slapped, I don't think he(she?) really cares. Erg is just a poseur. He doesn't really understand or believe any of the shit he comments. Hell, I doubt the doof is registered to vote.

Posted by: toby928™ at February 18, 2011 05:56 PM (GTbGH)

369 Folks, all this means - collectively - is that they STILL haven't gotten the message. Just means that next cycle there will have to be an even BIGGER primary bloodbath, followed by an even bigger evisceration in the general. So let it be written, so let it be done. Don't get discouraged. We are making progress.Our goalwasn't going to happen over night just because we took control of half of one branch of government. Anyone who thought that was out of their mind. Don't get mad. Get even. Turn up the heat. Burn their house down.

Posted by: Abiss at February 18, 2011 05:57 PM (1ilyW)

370 Ace, just e-mailed you a link to the text of the amendment. I suck at hyperlinking.

Posted by: ATalien at February 18, 2011 05:57 PM (2p0vz)

371 I think what's being lost in this is that the Republicans did a majority of things right as-of-late. King was supposedly not going to get an amendment brought forward and he got two; we have our party dedicated now to reforming entitlements, and Ryan will; and Boehner is at least saying the right things when it comes to challenging Obama.

What's happened here is that a majority of the moderates within the GOP split from the RSC, and some of it has to do with their feelings being hurt. But why should the entire party be abandoned when a majority of others did what they thought was right? Besides, I want to hear what the Majority Leader and Rep. Kingston have to say about this-- though Cantor's lines are still busy.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 05:57 PM (yfJ6g)

372 yeah I'm going to put up a site to recruit both primary opponents and third party opponents (both) for a list of these guys, starting with Rodgers and Cantor.

Either way, they're gone.

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 05:57 PM (nj1bB)

373 If Cantor voted against it, that is some hellified poor sentence structure.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 18, 2011 05:57 PM (SJ6/3)

374 >>You're getting old and slow Jack.

True. Harsh, but true.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 18, 2011 05:58 PM (TMB3S)

375 I have a feeling that Ace just hijacked his own thread.

Posted by: Soona at February 18, 2011 05:58 PM (1VLfs)

376 If the Paki's and Afghani's would unionize.......less murdering.

Posted by: Barack Obama, Death Merchant at February 18, 2011 05:58 PM (t60fX)

377 Remember, last November was only the beginning. If this little episode proves anything, it's that there's still a lot of work left to do. We have yet to rid the party of squishes and we have a golden opportunity to take the Senate in 0'12, even if the idiot 52%'ers elect Jugears again, which I'm seriously starting to doubt.
And, by the way, Ace, I thought I could beat down a troll. I kneel to you, sire, and offer my best serving wench to you for your pleasure this evening.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 18, 2011 05:58 PM (b6qrg)

378 305
I declare 2012 the year of the Libertarian. I may have to put up with
dope smoking hippies, but at least they're penny-pinching dope smoking
hippies.Who's with me?

Pass.

Posted by: Y-not at February 18, 2011 05:59 PM (pW2o8)

379 The dem majority in the senate is going to debate this until, oh, say March 2nd, vote to remove most of the cuts, and then send it back to the House. The 2010 continuing budget resolution runs out March 4. What's the House going to do then? Excellent question. Judging from current performance, don't bend over during the ides of March.
Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2011 05:50 PM (AZGON)
I expect the House will re-pass on March 3 what it originally sent to the Senate, with all of the cuts intact. If this is a game of chicken, remember that the House is more wild-eyed and crazy than the Senate, and there are a whole lot of Democrat Senators up for re-election in 2012. Those Democrat Senators will swerve the firstest and fastest if the House majority simply gives them the chance to do so.

Posted by: stuiec at February 18, 2011 05:59 PM (Di3Im)

380 Remember, last November was only the beginning.

Unfortunately it was the beginning of the end in Clownifornia.

We never learn, here.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2011 05:59 PM (AZGON)

381 The only path is for the Tea Party to take over the Republican party. We can't work with the establishment.
It's sort of like the first of the 12 steps being "surrender" yourself

Posted by: beedubya at February 18, 2011 06:00 PM (AnTyA)

382 Disgusted Allen West to Dems: Grow Up!

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 06:01 PM (yfJ6g)

383 370
Ace, just e-mailed you a link to the text of the amendment. I suck at hyperlinking.
Posted by: ATalien at February 18, 2011 05:57 PM (2p0vz)
Just make it the url for your name. That does solve all the problems with the tiny url problems people have. Just be sure to use the http:// in front of it

Posted by: buzzion at February 18, 2011 06:01 PM (oVQFe)

384 This is what happens when you re-elect the same tired pansy Team R leadership what were running things the last time voters stripped them of their majority.

Posted by: happyfeet at February 18, 2011 06:01 PM (XY6OK)

385 Sounds more like a TV movie made in a joint venture of SyFy and the Playboy Channel. LOGLINE: When a bevy of beautiful girls turn up dead in the most horrifying way, police Lt. Darla Sweaterpuppies fears that an ancient Native American prophecy has come true. --- Next week: When Ace Killboner pursues a famous porn star breaking probation in New Mexico, he stumbles upon a mysterious spacecraft near Area 51, containing a seductive secret. Guest Star: Adrienne Barbeau as Lyra from Planet DD.
Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2011 05:56 PM (AZGON)
I see that the Kill-Boner/Ace Killboner mythology will need a bridging synthesis. Either the ancient Anasazi Kill-Boner will be transformed by a magical incantation into a mortal, Ace Killboner... or Lt. Sweaterpuppies will mate with Kill-Boner in order to destroy it, becoming in the process impregnated with its offspring, who she'll name Ace.

Posted by: stuiec at February 18, 2011 06:03 PM (Di3Im)

386 I expect the House will re-pass on March 3 what it originally sent to the Senate, with all of the cuts intact. ...there are a whole lot of Democrat Senators up for re-election in 2012. Those Democrat Senators will swerve the firstest and fastest if the House majority simply gives them the chance to do so.

So they will just play out for time? Is that why the Senate wouldn't just pass the same cuts now? Anyway, will Barry veto such a bill, with all the "enormous" cuts intact?

Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2011 06:03 PM (AZGON)

387 I had to go to tepid air to figure out how Cantor voted.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 18, 2011 06:03 PM (SJ6/3)

388 Not if your point is "Republicans, change or leave." If the question is a slow collapse, or something quick, I'll take something quick.
Sorry, no. "Destroying the city in order to save it" didn't play well in the Tet Offensive.
Losing Middle Americastill matters, especially today for the Tea Party Patriots.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 18, 2011 06:03 PM (ujg0T)

389 posturing lying phony Eric Cantor
Eric Cantor is a Jew.
That's all you need to know about his fidelity to American socio-political principles.

Posted by: Lindsey Grahamnesty licking Rahm Emanuel's salty shaven balls at February 18, 2011 06:04 PM (ItFBr)

390 Either the ancient Anasazi Kill-Boner will be transformed by a magical incantation into a mortal, Ace Killboner... or Lt. Sweaterpuppies will mate with Kill-Boner in order to destroy it, becoming in the process impregnated with its offspring, who she'll name Ace.

I sense possibilities in marketing some manga.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2011 06:04 PM (AZGON)

391 Ace, is it possible that by agreeing to scale it back from 100 (or 83 billion) to 78 billion the GOP can already say it compromised with the Democrats to get it through the Senate while reminding people that Obama said government has to live withion its means. No body gets everything that they want when Congresshas split power. Now it will be harder for teh Dems to vote against the 78 billion and shut down the govt because the GOP can say it already compromised to work with the Democrats who said they wanted fiscal responsibility.

Posted by: Chuck Norton at February 18, 2011 06:04 PM (ajy5z)

392 Christ, it reads like the last five minutes of Dr. Strangelove in here.

Let this thing play out a bit before vowing to join Glenn Beck in his apocalypse bunker full of gold, guns, and canned goods.

There are factors behind the curtain we're not quite seeing yet. I'm guessing that this is at least partially compensation for those stiff-necked establishment types who wouldn't ordinarily go along with a vote to de-fund Planned Parenthood or the offices of the presidential czars. In exchange for their votes to strip some funding--which presents the important image of party unity--they get to protect some of the pork sent back to their districts. That kind of horse-trading may be aggravating, but it's an unfortunate reality of politics. Every party has to pass out the black hats from time to time.

Also, I suspect that many Republicans would prefer to keep discretionary power over these cuts out of the opposition party's hands. We'll see if specific cuts are outlined in a replacement amendment.

Keep in mind that most of this wrangling over the budget is political theater. Democrats control the Senate and the White House. There won't be any substantial budgetary contraction as long as Harry Reid and Barack Obama have a say in it. Even if the proposed budget were slashed by $600 billion dollars, it would still be only delaying the inevitable. Entitlement reform is where the real action is. That's the brass ring. Save your political capital for the real fight. Quibbling over earmarks and discretionary funds is just posturing for the C-SPAN cameras.

You can't roll back a half-century of ingrained statism in one session of Congress. There's going to be some give-and-take.

Everyone have a smoke and relax. We'll break this thing down when the details come to light.

Posted by: Lurk Ness Monster at February 18, 2011 06:05 PM (4dDvj)

393 382
Disgusted Allen West to Dems: Grow Up!

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 06:01 PM (yfJ6g)

Allen West and Herman Cain, mmmmm, mmmmmm, mmmmm.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2011 06:06 PM (UOM48)

394 There was some Tea Party opposition to Cantor last election. Not enough to matter though.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 18, 2011 06:06 PM (SJ6/3)

395 I expect the House will re-pass on March 3 what it originally sent to the Senate, with all of the cuts intact. If this is a game of chicken, remember that the House is more wild-eyed and crazy than the Senate, and there are a whole lot of Democrat Senators up for re-election in 2012. Those Democrat Senators will swerve the firstest and fastest if the House majority simply gives them the chance to do so.
Posted by: stuiec at February 18, 2011 05:59 PM (Di3Im)

I would love to see that scenario. Put the onus of a government shutdown on the dem. senate majority and Dear Leader. Perhaps (and also a big if) theHouse can rectify the 22 billion that was voted down today to somethingall of them would vote for.

Posted by: Soona at February 18, 2011 06:07 PM (1VLfs)

396 Cantor's phone lines are still busy.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 06:07 PM (yfJ6g)

397 I don't think it is fair to blame the entire Republican party for the way some of these Congressmen voted. I mean come on, look at the alternative.

I wonder if there is some deal in the offing because of the looming government shutdown coming our way. I read that since there are only a few months left in this budget, they are balking at some of this and want to concentrate on next year when they deal with entitlements.

Hell if I know. I like to think there is some plan I don't know about that would justify this.

Posted by: Terrye at February 18, 2011 06:07 PM (9iEV2)

398

"Ace Killboner, Troll Destroyer"

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2011 06:08 PM (UOM48)

399 Fuckin A
Walker is doing a presser right now and laying down the law
hold tight guvna...there are millions and millions with you

Posted by: beedubya at February 18, 2011 06:08 PM (AnTyA)

400 I thought they were headed for a shutdown, with all the crap that got amended and all.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 18, 2011 06:09 PM (SJ6/3)

401 ace, you'd forgotten to mention renditions, (now cool),glad you mentioned the assasination of americn citizens (wpw erg what say you)?
without constitutional right and to a Trial, ERG! where's the screaming and riots
erg, doesn't mind at all Obama uppin the anty, where the DEM party actually does go after american citizens
i really miss all those protests, drooly rants from the left against Bush/cheney /rumsfield our troops and americans that supported the effort.an amazing change
erg, insincere fibbin, jerk. just like His whole party
all for show to win elections.

Posted by: willow at February 18, 2011 06:09 PM (h+qn8)

402 Ooh well. Frankly I don't know what it really means (the amendment) but my constant idea is dissolution. I just don't think the its possible to reform enough to stop the coming fiscal destruction. First step, zero out witholding, its possible to do. Second step, aggitate. When four million people march on Washington, the shit will go down. Third step, take prisoners, exile others. It'll be rough.

Posted by: Dr. Heinz Doofensmirtz at February 18, 2011 06:09 PM (a0OFk)

403 I like the Pentagon, and I like NASCAR, but the Pentagon has no business sponsoring a NASCAR team.

Posted by: Pointing out the obvious at February 18, 2011 06:09 PM (t96ln)

404 Go Walker. Fuck Barry and his goons.

Fire the striking "teachers" and replace them with out-of-work teachers here in Georgia and elsewhere.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2011 06:09 PM (UOM48)

405 389 Eric Cantor is a Jew.
That's all you need to know about his fidelity to American
socio-political principles.
We have a number of good conservative Jewish people on this blog, you anti-Semite. It's perfectly fine to criticize Cantor (and I have in the past), but acting like his religion is the sole driver in this is disgusting.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 06:10 PM (yfJ6g)

406 Using Noem as an example, how is the Tea Party team going to bring reform to the GOP? She said all the right things, was set up as new blood in a new wave, and backed by Tea Partyer monies. And now we see some fallback positions that mimic the Establishment - the same stuff that turned the GOP to mud when Bush had the reigns.

When we have talk of reforming RINOism by injecting TEA, we better be prepared to dump "new" blood, too, because we seem to be finding out it is tainted.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at February 18, 2011 06:10 PM (swuwV)

407 403 That would be like the Government sponsoring a T.V. network, no wait.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 18, 2011 06:10 PM (SJ6/3)

408 lindsey. gth.

Posted by: willow at February 18, 2011 06:11 PM (h+qn8)

409 Cleanup on aisle 389

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 18, 2011 06:11 PM (ujg0T)

410 I hate Obama, ace. He's just an ivy-league mortarboard on a knucklehead.

Oh, but the debt, the debt, ace! eight years of Cheney Bush, and not a fucking peep from you about The Debt OMG!

You're such a fucking meme-slut. When allahpundit croaks, you may as well be buried alive in his crypt, so you can wash his balls in the afterlife.

Posted by: some murdered nuns in el salvador at February 18, 2011 06:12 PM (TdIVg)

411 Dang. Walker's giving me a boner, and I'm a chick.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2011 06:12 PM (UOM48)

412 I like the Pentagon, and I like NASCAR, but the Pentagon has no business sponsoring a NASCAR team.
The military spends a lot of money on TV ads, why not advertise on a stock car? NASCAR is probably their besttarget audience.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 18, 2011 06:12 PM (b6qrg)

413 400
I thought they were headed for a shutdown, with all the crap that got
amended and all.

They still likely are and they are still debating amendments. A few hours ago they were down to 90 but people from both sides have been adding more. They likely won't vote on the resolution until around midnight maybe.

Another thing-- everyone is acting like the entire leadership sold-out here, but we have on-record that Jeb Hensarling--the #4 Republican in the House-- voted for the amendment. I haven't seen how the rest of the leadership voted and I'm going to wait and see.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 06:13 PM (yfJ6g)

414 Gov. Walker speaking on FNC. I'm getting strange stirrings in myloins listening to him.

Posted by: Soona at February 18, 2011 06:13 PM (1VLfs)

415 411 That's hawt.

Posted by: steevy at February 18, 2011 06:13 PM (THwyQ)

416 382
Disgusted Allen West to Dems: Grow Up!

Yummy -- Someone to follow. For realz.

You can vote with your feet too, you know. Move to a state where fiscal discipline is valued. Leave those Blue hellholes and let them become Detroit juniors.

PS I'm enjoying the fuck out of the erg smackdown.

Posted by: GnuBreed at February 18, 2011 06:13 PM (h0RtZ)

417 Eric Cantor is a Jew.
That's all you need to know about his fidelity to American socio-political principles.
Ah, yes. The sensible, yet soothing, sounds of the Jew Hater. Always so nice to hear. Surely Spring must be right arounnd the corner.

Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2011 06:13 PM (sHj00)

418 erg, erg, erg. Didn't your mom get back from her "date" yet to make your boxed mac 'n' cheese?

Ace was just getting warmed up.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2011 06:14 PM (UOM48)

419 Chuck norton,

That's funny, you think the Dems even give a shit?

Posted by: Dr. Heinz Doofensmirtz at February 18, 2011 06:14 PM (a0OFk)

420 Posted by: Pointing out the obvious at February 18, 2011 06:09 PM (t96ln)

No more so than it has airing TV Commercials.

Just sayin'.

If it's part of the Pentagon's recruitment budget, I'm good with it. If it's getting special funding from somewhere, kill it.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at February 18, 2011 06:15 PM (8y9MW)

421 I would love to see that scenario. Put the onus of a government shutdown on the dem. senate majority and Dear Leader. Perhaps (and also a big if) theHouse can rectify the 22 billion that was voted down today to somethingall of them would vote for.
Posted by: Soona at February 18, 2011 06:07 PM (1VLfs)
The people who voted for the $22 billion across-the-board cut and lost should loudly challenge the House leadership: "You say we're lazy? Show us how it's done, you hardworking guys with the big brass balls. Show us $22 billion in specific cuts, or shut up and vote 'yea' when we reintroduce our $22 billion across-the-board cut."
Meanwhile, yes, when the Senate tries to play chicken with the House, it won't be like when they played chicken with Pelosi over Obamacare and made her swallow their loa- I mean, version, whole and with no amendments. Pelosi and her caucus WANTED Obamacare and didn't mind losing to the Senate because they were winning on health care reform. This time, the House doesn't want what the Senate is selling; the House can simply say, "we keep sending you a bill to fund the government and you keep saying 'no'... when will you Senators do the right thing for the American people and fund the government?"

Posted by: stuiec at February 18, 2011 06:16 PM (Di3Im)

422 anyone watching the WI governor on Fox

this guy is on in prime time...and wholly impressive

should scare the crap out of "the campaign"

Posted by: curious at February 18, 2011 06:17 PM (p302b)

423 Move over Chris Christie..Walker is the real deal too

Posted by: beedubya at February 18, 2011 06:18 PM (AnTyA)

424 The whole "we'll fund the government except for ______" is kabuki. It won't happen. Defunding, defunding, defunding is loser talk for "get a veto".

They need to start passing short, simple, easy funding stuff. Fund military, post offices, national parks, fluffybunnies. Get 'em on Obama's desk and let him sign them.

Then stop.

"Oh, we ain't funded Obamacare, the entire Department of Education, the EPA, the czars? So sorry, just haven't gotten around to it.....let's see how much is left in the -- well, goshdarnit, all the money's already been spent!"

Posted by: cthulhu at February 18, 2011 06:18 PM (kaalw)

425 I sense possibilities in marketing some manga.
Posted by: George Orwell at February 18, 2011 06:04 PM (AZGON)
Hentai!!!! Arigatoo gozaimasu.

Posted by: stuiec at February 18, 2011 06:18 PM (Di3Im)

426 422 anyone watching the WI governor on Foxthis guy is on in prime time...and wholly impressiveshould scare the crap out of "the campaign"
Posted by: curious at February 18, 2011 06:17 PM (p302b)
We're probably about a week away from commenters on blogs saying he should run for president, if they haven't already. I'm guessing some have and I've just missed it.

Posted by: buzzion at February 18, 2011 06:19 PM (oVQFe)

427 I'm late to the party but fuck this shit. Primary every one of those cocksuckers. Speaking of cocksuckers, this has Rove's cum smeared fingerprints all over it; the fucking Architect of 2006 and 2008. He's all butt-hurt since his mancrush Mike Castle was sent out to pasture. The sooner he's gone the better.

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 18, 2011 06:19 PM (eh+ki)

428 You're such a fucking meme-slut.
Now that's something you should know about, erg. By the way, how is your mom?
Another thing, if you could count, you'd know that the last deficit of the Bush administration was $160B and coming down. Your fuck-buddy in the Oaffal Orifice was the one who ran it up to the trillion dollar mark in two years.
But we know you can't count.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 18, 2011 06:19 PM (b6qrg)

429 Are strongly worded letters out of the question now?

Posted by: Mr. Bone ( I am your future) at February 18, 2011 06:22 PM (FIDMq)

430 Dr. Heinz, it is not about what the Dems think, it is about what swing voters think. After all if they didn't come vote with the Tea Party we would be powerless.

Posted by: Chuck Norton at February 18, 2011 06:22 PM (ajy5z)

431 Damn! I think I've fallen in love. I'm having an ewok moment. Gov. Walker rocks!

Posted by: Soona at February 18, 2011 06:23 PM (1VLfs)

432 You know I just want to point out that the governors are the ones with the balls, the senators and congressmen/women are fans of hot potatoe

Sarah Palin, regardless of what you think of her, was the Governor of Alaska. And don't say "oh Alaska not a real state" like the libs, it's a state, she was the governor.

Posted by: curious at February 18, 2011 06:23 PM (p302b)

433

No. They will negotiate those down to $15 billion with the Senate,
because they never wanted this in the first place. We were all had.
Sorry I pushed these cocksuckers.

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 04:28 PM (nj1bB)

BAD ACE! NAUGHTY BAD ACE!

Posted by: Unclefacts, Confuse A Cat, Ltd at February 18, 2011 06:25 PM (eCAn3)

434 Yeah, I just had a huge full-body "tingle" listening to Walker.

And erg, give up while you're behind.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2011 06:25 PM (UOM48)

435 @64: "We've expanded the budget by $1 T in four years but cutting $22 billion is a pipe dream?"
Hey, I told you people years ago that all the fat had already been cut.

Posted by: Tom DeLay at February 18, 2011 06:26 PM (xy9wk)

436 If anyone wants more info on today's proceedings (since thomas.gov is being slow), you can check these two webistes:

Office of the Clerk

GOP Conference Legislative Digest

Each amendment is listed and the proceedings live-blogged.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 06:26 PM (yfJ6g)

437 Ace,
And why, why did you support Mike Castle??
And why do you support some RINOs, and not others???

Posted by: Scoob at February 18, 2011 06:26 PM (T7+JL)

438 I don't know anyone who didn't hear that news conference. The guy was impressive, we'll know how impressive if they show up at his house and start examining all his closets. I wonder if anyone got lost in chris christie's closet...?

Posted by: curious at February 18, 2011 06:26 PM (p302b)

439 I think I might have a crush on Allen West.
Whoever -- salty balls --up above: cool it with the anti-semetic crap...it'snot true,and it's paranoid Jew obsession...and quite honestly a little sicko (I question the emotional stability and mental balance of people who are that freaking obsessed over a group of people that they ascribe all manner of other worldly intentions to them).
In short, to quote my man above: Grow up.

Posted by: unknown jane at February 18, 2011 06:26 PM (5/yRG)

440 I knew I should have waited until Sunday to catch up here. I'm heading for the liquor store.

Posted by: Mr.Barky at February 18, 2011 06:27 PM (qwK3S)

441 436 That's websites.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 06:27 PM (yfJ6g)

442 Alan West, Herman Cain, Sarah Palin, John Bolton, they're all good, formidable in their own ways. But first, you republicans have to dissect them for the dems so they can get a plan to defeat them, do I have that right?

Posted by: curious at February 18, 2011 06:29 PM (p302b)

443 I don't have too much of a problem with this. I thought that the "across the board"
cuts were not the way to go. For example:

Would we support an equal and additional cut to DoD (where Gates has already made tough cuts?

Would we want to limit the cuts on Obama's high speed rail baby to a certain percentage, or just eliminate the whole thing?.

The problem with "across the board" cuts is that they punish departments, like DoD, that have come to the table with good faith cuts already in place, and reward departments that game the system - especially departments that load up during the good times.

I do not want to set a standard that encourages these departments to lard up in good times, so that they will be better situated for an across the board cutback.

I want these guys to find the lard, and cut it. I don't 5% for corporation for public broadcasting - we have 500 channels - I want deeper cuts, dammit!!

More importantly, how do we reduce headcount at some of these agencies. Gates eliminated something like 40 flag positions (and their staffs). Why aren't other departments doing the same? Why aren't the freshmen identifying which departments are overstaffed?

Posted by: cdm at February 18, 2011 06:30 PM (NTuzn)

444 326
erg, when I'm fucking your piece of shit loser punk-ass son up the ass,
steadying my ashtray between his shoulderblades, I watch compilation
vids of Obama murdering children in ghoulish green nightvision.

I bust nut like a 600 pound squirrel.
Dude, I thought I warned you about the brown Valu-Rite

Posted by: ontherocks at February 18, 2011 06:32 PM (HBqDo)

445 Whoever -- salty balls --up above: cool it with the anti-semetic crap...it'snot true,and it's paranoid Jew obsession...and quite honestly a little sicko (I question the emotional stability and mental balance of people who are that freaking obsessed over a group of people that they ascribe all manner of other worldly intentions to them).
In short, to quote my man above: Grow up.
Posted by: unknown jane at February 18, 2011 06:26 PM (5/yRG)
Actually, jane, in his case, it's not paranoia. We really do have him in our sights. His name comes up in practically every one of our weekly meetings.
If he isn't checking under his car and his bed regularly for Mossad munitions, he should.

Posted by: stuiec at February 18, 2011 06:32 PM (Di3Im)

446 @117: "Reince Priebus is about to get a piece of my mind."
It's cool if you wanna write, but let me let you in on a little secret in advance: I give not a tuppenny fuck for your opinion. Actually, that overstates the case. I give not even a ha'penny fuck.

Posted by: Reince Priebus at February 18, 2011 06:32 PM (xy9wk)

447
I want these guys to find the lard, and cut it. I don't 5% for
corporation for public broadcasting - we have 500 channels - I want
deeper cuts, dammit!!More importantly, how do we reduce
headcount at some of these agencies. Gates eliminated something like 40
flag positions (and their staffs). Why aren't other departments doing
the same? Why aren't the freshmen identifying which departments are
overstaffed?

And that is why "across the board cuts" are crap. They always come back. Terminated positions are harder to resurrect.

Posted by: kidney at February 18, 2011 06:33 PM (3j6OS)

448 Why aren't the freshmen identifying which departments are overstaffed?
Posted by: cdm at February 18, 2011 06:30 PM (NTuzn)
It would be much quicker identifying which ones arent...and the answer would probably be 0

Posted by: Mr. Bone ( I am your future) at February 18, 2011 06:34 PM (FIDMq)

449 Alan West, Herman Cain, Sarah Palin, John Bolton, they're all good, formidable in their own ways. But first, you republicans have to dissect them for the dems so they can get a plan to defeat them, do I have that right?
Posted by: curious at February 18, 2011 06:29 PM (p302b)
You know, you could put them and a few other names on a wheel of fortune, surround it with the titles of the President, Vice President and Cabinet secretaries, and spin that wheel... and wherever it landed, you'd have a pretty damn fine Administration.

Posted by: stuiec at February 18, 2011 06:34 PM (Di3Im)

450 tuppenny fuck

In my business we call that "shrinkage."

Posted by: a cheap whore at February 18, 2011 06:35 PM (AZGON)

451 Miss'80sBaby: We have a number of good conservative Jewish people on this blog, you anti-Semite.
No, we don't.
And that's precisely my point.
We have a number of Jewish pople on this blog who PRETEND to be "good conservatives", but who, just like Eric Cantor, will cut a deal and stick a knife in your back just as soon as the opportunity presents itself.
Almost none of the ostensibly "good conservative" Jews I am familiar with in American public life - Ben Stein, Jonah Goldberg, Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer - can be counted on to stand and fight with us in defense of classical American virtues.
They're all Bolsheviks in sheep's clothing - antinomianism simply isn't in their DNA.
PS: I was going to say that about the only exceptions I could think of were Horowitz Breitbart, until I just googled and stumbled upon this piece:
http://www.toqonline.com/blog/more-faux-conservative-jews/
You just can't trust them - they simply aren't like us.

Posted by: Lindsey Grahamnesty licking Rahm Emanuel's salty shaven balls at February 18, 2011 06:37 PM (ItFBr)

452 442
Alan West, Herman Cain, Sarah Palin, John Bolton, they're all good,
formidable in their own ways. But first, you republicans have to
dissect them for the dems so they can get a plan to defeat them, do I
have that right?

Posted by: curious at February 18, 2011 06:29 PM (p302b)

Yep, that about sums it up.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Confuse A Cat, Ltd at February 18, 2011 06:37 PM (eCAn3)

453 Alan West, Herman Cain, Sarah Palin, John Bolton, they're all good, formidable in their own ways. But first, you republicans have to dissect them for the dems so they can get a plan to defeat them, do I have that right?
Posted by: curious at February 18, 2011 06:29 PM (p302b)
I never buy into that garbage. If its something that gets brought up in the primary, then its something that would have come up in the general election. I'd rather have the dirty laundry aired early onso it can be cleaned before you need to wear it.

Posted by: buzzion at February 18, 2011 06:38 PM (oVQFe)

454 >>>And why, why did you support Mike Castle??

>>>And why do you support some RINOs, and not others???

It's a thing called "math." You may have heard of it. In the House we have the majority and can afford to lose a bunch of these sell-outs while retaining power. In the senate we do not have a majority and in fact are still pretty far away from one.

See, Scoob, I bother to think about things. I use simple arithmetic to make strategic choices. I don't just rant, like you, in full-blown blow-hard mode all the time, saying silly things like "we only need 30 senators if they're all like Jim DeMint." See, at 30, we dont' even have the filibuster, and therefore everything on the liberal wish-list gets passed.

Sorry if all this weighing and strategizing and *simple head-counting* strikes you as harrrrrd and stuff.

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 06:39 PM (nj1bB)

455 @161: "Oh, and I'm against a third party. It's doomed to fail."
As compared to our run of unbroken success?

Posted by: The GOP at February 18, 2011 06:39 PM (xy9wk)

456 Glad to find this blog. Linked to it from Mark Levin site. Levin's not for wimps, and apparently this blog isn't either! That's why I'm here...
Thanks for the info about McCarthy blocking the $22 billion. That vote was as important symbolically as it was monetarily. People have lost faith in the GOP, and needed to have the $100 billion promise fulfilled to help get some "cred" back.I am not from McCarthy's district, but he attended a fundraiser held at our home. He stood on a flatbed trailer in my front yard (we reek of class...) and promised deep spending cuts. So why didn't he deliver? Do we need term limits of one term to keep our guys grounded; able to remember why they are there?
I'm afraid of 3rd party. The Paulists would run roughshod, and the left is organized and funded to the teeth. We have still got a ton of house cleaning to do. Will get more squishy congressmen to climb up on that flatbed, and drive it out of town!
LOVE what I'm seeing out of Gov. Walker's office. Keep it coming!!!

Posted by: RightOnEuny at February 18, 2011 06:40 PM (gn2af)

457

"Okay, I give up. I wanted to give this two party system a try. Forget it. It's time for a third party, the Tea Party.
The GOP is dead to me. Hal Rodgers and posturing lying phony Eric Cantor need to be replaced."
Bout time you came over from the dark side. But I'm still not gonna take back all that shit I talked about you or any of those names I called you.

Posted by: dick at February 18, 2011 06:41 PM (dx6Sv)

458 Posted by: Lindsey Grahamnesty licking Rahm Emanuel's salty shaven balls at February 18, 2011 06:37 PM (ItFBr)
Go fuck yourself you anti-semitic shitbag.

Posted by: buzzion at February 18, 2011 06:41 PM (oVQFe)

459 Welcome to the righteous side, Ace. The GOP, as I've said many, many times before, does indeed suck donkey balls.

Posted by: Bugler at February 18, 2011 06:41 PM (VXBR1)

460 your services will no longer be required, Stormfront Fag.

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 06:41 PM (nj1bB)

461 fucking Hitler-Fag. Ta-ta.

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 06:41 PM (nj1bB)

462 ...us in defense of classical American virtues.

Dennis Prager
Laura Schlessinger
Michael Medved

Now go sit on a Dreidle, asshole.

Posted by: kidney at February 18, 2011 06:41 PM (3j6OS)

463 Posted by: Lindsey Grahamnesty licking Rahm Emanuel's salty shaven balls at February 18, 2011 06:37 PM (ItFBr)

Bullshit! By the way. Eichmann called and said he had a few things for you to doback in the camp.

Posted by: Soona at February 18, 2011 06:42 PM (1VLfs)

464 Anyone have a link to the vote results? I want to see whether my congressman is going to get my money and my vote in 2012.

Posted by: Republican leadership at February 18, 2011 06:42 PM (LH6ir)

465 Posted by: Lindsey Grahamnesty licking Rahm Emanuel's salty shaven balls at February 18, 2011 06:37 PM (ItFBr)

That's some impressively fucked up thinking you have there.

Posted by: Unclefacts, Confuse A Cat, Ltd at February 18, 2011 06:44 PM (eCAn3)

466 >>You just can't trust them - they simply aren't like us.

I'm not like you. I'm good with that.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 18, 2011 06:44 PM (TMB3S)

467 Go fuck yourself you anti-semitic shitbag.
Counter my position.
Name me a single Jew whom you think will stand and fight when the going gets tough.
Mark Levin?
We'll see...

Posted by: Lindsey Grahamnesty licking Rahm Emanuel's salty shaven balls at February 18, 2011 06:44 PM (ItFBr)

468 467 Dude,you've taken a left turn into nazi-nutville.

Posted by: steevy at February 18, 2011 06:45 PM (THwyQ)

469 Posted by: Lindsey Grahamnesty licking Rahm Emanuel's salty shaven balls at February 18, 2011 06:37 PM (ItFBr)

Good fucking riddance

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 18, 2011 06:46 PM (eh+ki)

470 Posted by: Lindsey Grahamnesty licking Rahm Emanuel's salty shaven balls at February 18, 2011 06:37 PM (ItFBr)

Wow. Keep votin' GOP, dude.

Posted by: Bugler at February 18, 2011 06:46 PM (VXBR1)

471 they can't even cut the 100 billion they promised, what a bunch of useless sons a bitches.
I told you Cantor was no good, he is theone to blame for this, he has always just being dying to be the "Moderate-Voice-of-Reason"

if the Virginia TEA Party does it's job Cantor can "voice-of-reason" himself right to the unemployment line with all the othermarxists and their RINO enablers!

Posted by: Shoey at February 18, 2011 06:47 PM (ehKDD)

472 447
And that is why "across the board cuts"
are crap. They always come back. Terminated positions are harder to
resurrect.

So why didn't Jordan go for something for permanent?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 06:47 PM (yfJ6g)

473 Name me a single Jew whom you think will stand and fight when the going gets tough.
Rod Carew.
Go Fuck Yourself.

Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2011 06:48 PM (sHj00)

474 Ace,
Ok Ace, pal of pals. But you support a third party??
How does that help??
What kind of strategery is that??
I think that you would be better off primarying the RINOs.
Third party ensures liberal democrat victory from here to eternity.

Posted by: Scoob at February 18, 2011 06:49 PM (T7+JL)

475 I like how the Hitlerfag ignored the 100 or so defecting Christian Republicans to zoom in obsessively on the one Jew he's pretty sure started all the trouble.

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 06:50 PM (nj1bB)

476 Currently, Rep. Jared Polis (D-CO) is trying to cut troop strength levels. I keep getting the sense he really hates the military.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 06:50 PM (yfJ6g)

477 Posted by: Lindsey Grahamnesty licking Rahm Emanuel's salty shaven balls at February 18, 2011 06:37 PM (ItFBr)

Hello cocksucker (and I mean that seriously). I'm one of those Jews you seem to think can't be trusted, apparently because I'm not like you. Well, thank God that I'm not like you, because you seem to be an incredible piece of shit, as well as rather bad at trolling, and incredibly stupid to boot.

When I was in college, and a bit more hotheaded than I am now, I kicked the shit out of one of you. It was a pleasure. I hope the guy couldn't afford the dentistry that was necessary after I knocked out three of his teeth.

Posted by: Republican leadership at February 18, 2011 06:51 PM (LH6ir)

478 Oh, that was me, in case you can't figure out the hash system.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at February 18, 2011 06:51 PM (LH6ir)

479 476 They are already being cut.20,000 Marines and 25,000 Army IIRC.Gates told his master he is willing to cut deeper.

Posted by: steevy at February 18, 2011 06:52 PM (THwyQ)

480 Ace, what the hell are you doing cleaning up the comments?
I saw Dave the other day wearing a badge and he said it was his job.

Posted by: dick at February 18, 2011 06:52 PM (dx6Sv)

481 464
Anyone have a link to the vote results? I want to see whether my
congressman is going to get my money and my vote in 2012.

It's not been posted yet, though a number of websites have stated prominent member votes.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 06:52 PM (yfJ6g)

482 just to be clear:
I dispise Cantor because he is a spineless RINO, I don't see how him being jewish even figures into it.

Posted by: Shoey at February 18, 2011 06:53 PM (ehKDD)

483 Ace,
Ok Ace, pal of pals. But you support a third party??
How does that help??
What kind of strategery is that??
I think that you would be better off primarying the RINOs.
Third party ensures liberal democrat victory from here to eternity.
Posted by: Scoob at February 18, 2011 06:49 PM (T7+JL)
Are you capable of reading scoob? Here I'll repost for you and highlight.
334 I'm still waiting for Michelle Malkin to put me some phone numbers. A lot of these people we don't need. We primary them and if we don't win the primary we go third party ANYWAY-- we can do this tactically with 30 of them. If we lose the seats, fine, we only need 218. And we'll scare the shit out of the rest. We can in fact afford to deliberately tank these guys. We have some latitude in our numbers.
Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 05:47 PM (nj1bB)
So he does want to primary them as the first option. And because we have excess since we're in the majority, we can stand to "trim the fat." Something these Republicans haven't figured out.

Posted by: buzzion at February 18, 2011 06:53 PM (oVQFe)

484 Name me a single Jew whom you think will stand and fight when the going
gets tough.
I named three. And I can show you hundreds (at least) of headstones at Arlington with Jewish Stars on them.
But you just keep on goose steppin there Heinrich.

Posted by: kidney at February 18, 2011 06:54 PM (3j6OS)

485 Whoa, whoa-- the headline @ Tepiud Air is misleading. H.R. 1 has not yet been voted upon and will likely not be for several hrs. I understand AP is differentiating between savings and actual cuts (which also ignores some other factors) but he's giving the impression they voted down the CR!

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 06:55 PM (yfJ6g)

486 Hubby just called Cantors office. Don't call the DC number. He got thru and left a lengthy message. The # is 540-825-8962. That's the Culpepper, VA office.

Posted by: jewells45 at February 18, 2011 06:55 PM (Z71Vg)

487 Currently, Rep. Jared Polis (D-CO) is trying to cut troop strength levels. I keep getting the sense he really hates the military.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 06:50 PM (yfJ6g)

The (D) by the name makes that automatic.

Posted by: Soona at February 18, 2011 06:55 PM (1VLfs)

488 The situation really is getting surreal. We have a 1.6 trillion dollar
budget deficit. Nobody is gullible enough any more to buy our treasury
bills in anything close to the numbers needed to borrow that much, so we
are just printing it every month like your friendly neighborhood Latin
American banana republic. It's okay though, because we call in
quantitative easing instead of printing money. Instead of dealing with the budget, the President is
proposing high-speed rails as a solution. We've hired 200,000 more
federal employees, like we can afford the ones we have. The Republicans
are arguing about 100 billion in cuts, and don't even have the guts to
cut totally unnecessary spending like NPR, much less roll back the clock
two years. The government is loaning money to the banks at zero
percent, which is essentially a transfer of wealth from savers to the
banks. The bankrupt banks aren't content with the free 3-4% that they
don't deserve, and are busy sowing the seeds for the next disastrous
bubble. Among other things, they are taking the free money (which they
can only borrow short-term), and they are loaning it to bankrupt
municipalities for 20 plus years. So the feds are bailing out cities'
public unions with banks skimming off a percentage, all hidden from us
suckers, and the states will be lining up for a bailout with the same
mechanism. We will need to bail the banks out again in a few years when
this blows up. Meanwhile, the federal debt spirals out of control, and
the EPA is planning on adding 50% to energy prices.

They shouldn't worry. $300/barrel oil will take care of it for them.

Yeah, Tea Party, here I come. The hell with Republicans.

Posted by: Cardin Drake at February 18, 2011 06:55 PM (8LOIL)

489 486
Hubby just called Cantors office. Don't call the DC number. He got
thru and left a lengthy message. The # is 540-825-8962. That's the
Culpepper, VA office.

That's what I keep getting too.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 06:58 PM (yfJ6g)

490 Get rid of them all. This is nonsense.

Posted by: Danny at February 18, 2011 06:58 PM (1SRLh)

491

Posted by: Lindsey Grahamnesty licking Rahm Emanuel's salty shaven balls at February 18, 2011 06:44 PM (ItFBr)
You should try pulling your enlightened foreskin over your face while jogging in traffic.Good Night and Good Luck.

Posted by: ontherocks at February 18, 2011 06:59 PM (HBqDo)

492 Why is "Israel" in the amendment?

Posted by: Chuckit at February 18, 2011 07:00 PM (fQUVn)

493 490
Get rid of them all. This is nonsense.

A number of them voted for the measure and are good conservatives who consistently get ratings of 96+.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 07:01 PM (yfJ6g)

494 Alan West, Herman Cain, Sarah Palin, John Bolton, they're all good, formidable in their own ways. But first, you republicans have to dissect them for the dems so they can get a plan to defeat them, do I have that right?
Right- we should only say nice happy things about potential nominees, and ignore any faults they have. No way would the Dems ever discover those faults without blogs thatthey don't read pointing them out.
You know what we get when we don't dissect candidates before nominating them? Shitty,unelectablecandidates.
Besides, we criticize candidates from the right, the Dems from the left- they're not going to attack our nominee because he increased spending or favors gay marriage.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 18, 2011 07:01 PM (SY2Kh)

495 Posted by: Cardin Drake at February 18, 2011 06:55 PM (8LOIL)

You expected miraculous results with one session of congress. A congress in which we only own half, excluding the presidency. The damage to this country has been generations in the making. It will take generations to correct it, if it ever will.

Posted by: Soona at February 18, 2011 07:02 PM (1VLfs)

496 Blame the Evil Juice!

Posted by: Noam Chomskey licking Andre Dworkin's Salty Shaven Labia at February 18, 2011 07:02 PM (sHj00)

497 Dear Buzzion at 483,
Nope, didn't have time to review all of Ace's crap.
Its Friday, and I'm enjoying a brew.
I just find it amazing that controlling the Senate is such a big deal in 2010. We can get that in 2012.
Ace is complaining about RINOs in the House. Castle is RINO personified. So, we should get Castle in the Senate to get control, so he can vote like the 90 or so Repubniks in the House for Six years.
I would rather purge Castle, and primary Cantor and McCarthy, and the others.

Posted by: Scoob at February 18, 2011 07:03 PM (T7+JL)

498 Noam Chomskey licking Andre Dworkin's Salty Shaven Labia at February 18, 2011 07:02 PM (sHj00)
I need to go vomit now.

Posted by: steevy at February 18, 2011 07:03 PM (THwyQ)

499 See, McCarthy has long been a sell-out and I don't understand why people aren't focusing on he and Rogers. Instead, they're slamming the people who voted for the bill! Talk about forest for the trees.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 07:05 PM (yfJ6g)

500 Why is "Israel" in the amendment?
Posted by: Chuckit at February 18, 2011 07:00 PM (fQUVn)
Like moths to a fuckin' flame...
Chuckit the Jew Hater joins the party.

Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2011 07:06 PM (sHj00)

501 I told you guys she was going to be a sell out when they gave her a committee.

Posted by: **** at February 18, 2011 07:06 PM (TC/9F)

502 sHj00

if that ain't an anti-semite tag I dunno what is. RAAAAAAAAAAAACIST!

Posted by: Unclefacts, Confuse A Cat, Ltd at February 18, 2011 07:06 PM (eCAn3)

503 It's a Kosher Hash.
Sekrit Jooos.
We need them to keep control over the media and the banks.

Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2011 07:08 PM (sHj00)

504 Charlie Brown's Dildo
Dude, that name right there has got to be un-kosher. I mean, if just a simple cheese burger brings down the Old Testament Deuteronomic wrath, your nic has to be in violation of Kashrut.

Posted by: ed at February 18, 2011 07:08 PM (Y2WVW)

505 That was interesting. So all the states where there is suddenly insurrection are states BO needs to win in 2012?

Wisconsin, Ohio.

anyways, they get off for a week? They have it as good as the teachers. Why don't they show how serious they are and stay in DC and do their jobs?

Posted by: curious at February 18, 2011 07:08 PM (p302b)

506 Well so far all I've seen is a cut to F-35.

Republicans won the House.

How to you get Democrats to make some cuts that will effect their campaign funding and piss off constituents if Republicans are Tea Party members keep surrendering or making cuts that are in traditional Republican areas.

If you win the House I would think the simple negotiation-is losers go first when it comes time to cut.

If the Tea Party is going to facilitate defense cuts-which a rarely a Dem interest-while a small faction of the electorate most interested is overseas and pretty damn busy, [and the Dems are making sure their ballots don't get to them in time.]

Why can't Democrats-the losers -suffer the consequences of the election?

Sorry I know this is going to make you mad-but across the board cuts gives them an ungained advantage-that they didn't earn.

Posted by: military dependent at February 18, 2011 07:13 PM (fqX0n)

507
It's a Kosher Hash.

Sekrit Jooos.

We need them to keep control over the media and the banks.

Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2011 07:08 PM (sHj00)

teach me the handshake!

Posted by: Unclefacts, Confuse A Cat, Ltd at February 18, 2011 07:15 PM (eCAn3)

508 This started out at 32 billion; the outrage forced more. We need to keep raising hell, voting 'em out, redirecting funds from the Party to individual conservative candidates... You can't stop hammering just because the nail bent; pull it out and keep whacking.

Anyone got a link to the full roll call results?

Posted by: DaMav at February 18, 2011 07:15 PM (QNU76)

509 It's anti Darwin.

Let's divvy up the military's resources and funding and spread it around to the constituents of the Democrats that for the most part stayed safely behind.

Posted by: military dependent at February 18, 2011 07:15 PM (fqX0n)

510 500 Why is "Israel" in the amendment?
Posted by: Chuckit at February 18, 2011 07:00 PM (fQUVn)
Like moths to a fuckin' flame...
Chuckit the Jew Hater joins the party.
Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2011 07:06 PM (sHj00)
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Now hold on a minute. Before we throw the "Jew hater" card, let's make sure it's appropriate.
First of all, why is Israel in the amendment? Does it say foreign aid to Israel is to be cut? Or does it say foreign aid to Israel will be maintained?

Posted by: ed at February 18, 2011 07:17 PM (Y2WVW)

511 teach me the handshake!
I can't teach it to you. What I can tell you is that if you can wrestle a Super Sekrit Juice Shark (now with GPS) into submission, he has to show it to you.
Heebz Honor.

Posted by: garrett sworn to sekrecy at February 18, 2011 07:19 PM (sHj00)

512 Posted by: ed at February 18, 2011 07:17 PM (Y2WVW)
chuckit loves to throw the zionist! accusation about.
He's been hounding / baitingme about / withit for a couple weeks.

Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2011 07:21 PM (sHj00)

513 Does it say foreign aid to Israel is to be cut? Or does it say foreign aid to Israel will be maintained?
As I read it in a cursory search it refers to a law limiting defunding /cuts in certain types of foreign aide (not necessarily exclusive to Israel).

Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2011 07:27 PM (sHj00)

514 495: "You expected miraculous results with one session of congress. A congress in which we only own half, excluding the presidency. The damage to this country has been generations in the making. It will take generations to correct it, if it ever will."
And now generations plus a little longer.

Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at February 18, 2011 07:32 PM (xy9wk)

515 There are many fine Jewish commenters here that I admire and I demand they be shown respect when they are present.

Now, I realize that it's hard to tell who they are, so I propose that they put a * by their nickname so we all know who they are.

/seriously, fuck you, salty ball-licker. Hope a hobo fucks you to death with a broken bottle.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at February 18, 2011 07:32 PM (caOCZ)

516 ...this Naomi sell-out...

Representatives' terms are two years, are they not?

Preparing a primary challenge would be a good move at this point.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at February 18, 2011 07:34 PM (nD3Pg)

517 445 Mossad car bombs? What? No killer bunnies, ninja squirrels, Zionist land sharks?
You people are seriously beginning to slip -- a little imagination please!

Posted by: unknown jane at February 18, 2011 07:35 PM (5/yRG)

518 If this were the shampoo bottle, we'd be on "repeat."
Don't get too upset, just keep washing until clean. Next year are the primaries all over again. See, now you have something to look forward to.
(I can smell the O'Donnel - Castle fights from here...)

Posted by: Warthog at February 18, 2011 07:38 PM (4yEXY)

519 Posted by: Noam Chomskey licking Andre Dworkin's Salty Shaven Labia at February 18, 2011 07:02 PM (sHj00)

That sock is completely uncalled for -- and I've had a bad day as it is, now this. You are indeed an evil person.

Posted by: unknown jane at February 18, 2011 07:39 PM (5/yRG)

520 Yo, seriously....how the fuck did we start talking about Jewish people? Come on, folks, it's just this one anti-semitic drive-by prick troll.

Let's go back to fulminating about that sellout shitbag Hal Rogers instead.

Posted by: Jeff B. at February 18, 2011 07:43 PM (NjYDy)

521 I can't believe I left the ultimate'a' out of 'Andrea'...

Posted by: garrett at February 18, 2011 07:43 PM (sHj00)

522 Kristi Noem, the prettiest RINO.

Posted by: KB at February 18, 2011 07:43 PM (GkYyh)

523 Damn. I came back here after dinner hoping for more hot ace on erg man-on-man butt sex.

Whateve, I'm off to bed with teh D'oh.

Later.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 18, 2011 07:44 PM (UOM48)

524 I feel obligated to point out that these GOPers who voted to block this were all 100% ELECTABLE.

You get what you pay for.

Posted by: tsj017 at February 18, 2011 07:57 PM (vOH26)

525 erg, when I'm fucking your piece of shit loser punk-ass son up the ass, steadying my ashtray between his shoulderblades, I watch compilation vids of Obama murdering children in ghoulish green nightvision. I bust nut like a 600 pound squirrel.
Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 05:44 PM (nj1bB)
Okay, I know I'm really late to this thread, but this is some of the funniest shit I've ever read. I laughed so hard I dribbled!

Posted by: Steph at February 18, 2011 07:59 PM (AkdC5)

526 Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 18, 2011 07:01 PM (SY2Kh)

I agree it will take a long time to get out of this mess, if ever. But first you have to be serious about it. The Republicans campaigned on this. $100 billion out of an almost $4T budget isn't much, and they can't even reach that. The Republicans are proving they aren't serious about our spending problems either. We can no longer finance our debt. People won't buy our bonds. We have to print money to finance this deficit. If anything should make Congress serious about our problems, it is that. They still don't get it. It is time for a Constitutional Convention. We need to make it much, much harder for our politicians to spend us into oblivion again.

Posted by: Cardin Drake at February 18, 2011 08:00 PM (Dms0S)

527 That is a little extreme there, Ace - better, instead, to work on getting the TEA Party back to DC and turn up the heat...it was always going to be like this. Until we completely defeat liberalism and score such a large conservative majority that there is way RINOism can have an effect, we're going to have this sort of thing...we just have to make the RINOs fear us more than anything else.

Posted by: Mark Noonan at February 18, 2011 08:06 PM (et2uQ)

528 This always cheers me up. Squish GOPers are Blythe.

http://tinyurl.com/b2lnyz

Posted by: Lizabth at February 18, 2011 08:10 PM (JZBti)

529 Watching Congress is like any episode of Hoarders. The hoarder spends
all day going through a single box while there are acres of waste to
eliminate.

Posted by: Valiant at February 18, 2011 08:11 PM (UKSRV)

530 "No fucking way I support these assholes. They conned me.

Posted by: ace at February 18, 2011 04:41 PM (nj1bB)"

Hello, friend! We have much in common.

Do you notice a fellow's pant creases?

Posted by: David Brooks at February 18, 2011 08:12 PM (vOH26)

531 I've got a plan if the idiot RINO's don't stop this. We organize all of the staunch conservatives in America into a group. We all move to Hawaii and take over the State House, Senate and Governors mansion. We secede and rename Hawaii Conservatopia. Then we don't let anybody in ever again.

Posted by: Big T Party at February 18, 2011 08:21 PM (12Ole)

532 Big surprise, the GOP LOSERSHIP at work again...

However, this does point out a fatal flaw in the Tea Party approach to getting budgetary problems under control -- they are asking the generals to take the front line in this battle. There is no history of any war being won by putting the generals in the front lines.

If one really wants to get Federal budgets under control, more and more of the direction of spending needs to be put in the hands of individual taxpayers via some sort of taxpayer directed budget process. It can start out small, but before long taxpayers will want more say, not less -- a reversal to unproductive spending to buy votes towards spending to promote prosperity. This is because more and more of the budget would be controlled and nation's future redirected according to the vision of the productive taxpaying sector of society, according to how much taxes they pay (not how much tax credits they receive).

Posted by: drfredc at February 18, 2011 08:25 PM (puRnk)

533 Posted by: Cardin Drake at February 18, 2011 08:00 PM (Dms0S)
No, I get it. Just pointing out that: a) The spending bil that eventually gets signed by Obama won't include as much spending reduction as the House bill. b) They're not done with the House bill yet.
That this particular amendment failed doesn't mean that a differentone with $20+ billion more in cuts isn't in the works.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 18, 2011 08:27 PM (SY2Kh)

534 Calling all Jews bad is like calling all blacks bad.

That being said, we saw how Steele, for example, was affirmative actioned into the RNC and when the going got rough he did like most blacks do- blame racism. Am I racist? Probably, but I did vote for Allan Keyes in the Primaries in Idaho, and I have an email to and response from Allen West showing that I was supporting the man before he got serious about getting into office.

For Jews, well, they are as a cultural group usually aloof from the country of their residence, generally believe in keeping religious morality separate from Gov't, and they tend to be almost as uniformly liberal as Blacks. Let's not forget the great Jewish leaders of the Communist movement, and of almost every anti-American group in the US today (Soros groups, ACLU, People for the American way....).

So should a traditional conservative WASP welcome the conservative Jew or Black? Hell yes. Elevate them to leadership because we see them as a unique example of their socio-ethinic group? Hell no,( although West stands on his own and has been proven as a man-Officer- who cares more about his men and the mission than the feelings of liberals or the enemy).
I do not fully and 110% trust the Conservative movement to someone who is a pariah in his own cultural group because the pressure will always be there and the ratchet will turn to the left over time...

I hope folks see the difference between that and the rants of the ball licker.

Posted by: Smarty at February 18, 2011 08:30 PM (JlFDm)

535 Calm down!!! Jesus H. look at all the other things the House did this week. Get a grip.

Posted by: Zeno Jones at February 18, 2011 08:34 PM (zVOB7)

536 McCarthy, Rogers, Cantor that whole bunch has to go... their religion is not relevant.

Posted by: Sgt. Batguano at February 18, 2011 08:45 PM (yCH89)

537
If Mike Castle had been sent to the Senate, he would have prevented this.

Plus, Ace made a comment upthread, in response to "erg" about Obama's stepping up of drone strikes.

How do we know the cited increase in numbers of drone strikes under Obama are any more reliable than the any of the White House budget projections have been over the past two years.

I think we'll find out at some point that we're being lied to about this as well.

Posted by: sartana at February 18, 2011 08:47 PM (+fNcw)

538 This mess is 80 years old do you think that one month into the 112th congress where Republicans only control the house that setbacks wouldn't happen?

If the House cut $1.4 trillion today only to have Obama veto it make you happy? Because it would be a meaningless gesture.

This was one election cycle we need four or five election cycles to keep weeding out the loser RINO's and the leftists at ALL LEVELS of government.

This is a long term war

Posted by: bobbymike at February 18, 2011 08:48 PM (TpGmG)

539 Pigford, Pigford, Pigford . . .

Posted by: Scoob at February 18, 2011 09:04 PM (T7+JL)

540 Jesus fucking Christ!

Can we get a fucking roll all on this already?! I can't find one anywhere.

And why are there no primary challengers for Boehner and Cantor. If we don't knock out the leadership we'll never get anywhere. I swear, Republicans are the ONLY people on the planet who believe that cowardliness and meekness will produce positive results.

Posted by: Misha at February 18, 2011 09:05 PM (WO6uQ)

541 Can we get a fucking roll all on this already?! I can't find one anywhere.

It's barely being covered out there. Bizarre.

Posted by: Y-not at February 18, 2011 09:08 PM (pW2o8)

542 //It's barely being covered out there. Bizarre.//

Yeah, I noticed that. Mark Levin acted like he was going to cover it. He noted that it's actually a pretty huge deal. But then he brought on George Allen and just sort of forgot about it. From what I can tell, the only people who give a shit about this are Ace and Allah. Yeah, I know everyone is preoccupied with Wisconsin, but this is at least as dire. This is big. The GOP may have just given the election to Obama. We need to have an organized effort to primary these idiots, and we need to get pissed. Just saying "Oh, well, at least there cutting *something*" isn't enough. Hal Rogers comes from a fucking R+16 district! You tellin' me we can't do better than him in an R+16 district?! Please! And frankly, at this point, if primarying doesn't work, I'm just not going to vote to re-elect my Congressman (assuming he voted against the amendment [which I would know if I could actually get a fucking roll coll]).

Posted by: Misha at February 18, 2011 09:16 PM (WO6uQ)

543 Welcome to the Party, pal.

Posted by: MlR at February 18, 2011 09:18 PM (uxyPr)

544 Another lesson hopefully learned:

Never fall for the hot-politician personality cult (Noem).

Our country's too important to be left to hormones.

Tea Party or Republican Party - CLEAN OUT all of the phony career politicians, with extreme prejudice. Even if you lose seats. You can't win when they aren't even attempting to sell your agenda.

Posted by: MlR at February 18, 2011 09:34 PM (uxyPr)

545 Ace your right on. The Republicans as a Party are dead. Not just to you, but millions. This was rank betrayal. The only good I see coming from this is that folks finally realize what they are up against.

No one wanted this, even crazy Canuks like me who love America as a torch on the watchtower for those who care for individual freedom.
We are watching the same process occur with our so called Conservatives. Defending Human rights censor courts, & the like. Voting in measures no one wants, particularly debt for more regulations. Bigger government. More entitlements.
None of us have the money to afford them anymore. Americans or Canadians.
Them or their political fairy tails with legacy projects. Ideology before reality. Its a fetish.
Frankly Obama is no friend of America least of all a true President. Its in every action he takes.
How could fighting ones own States using a federal hammer help but create Chaos?
God Bless America
JMO

Posted by: Revnant Dream at February 18, 2011 09:45 PM (QceIs)

546 True Colors.

This is exactly why I am not a "member" of a political party, nor do I give parties any money.

Noem is a real headskratcher, tho. Was she asleep during the campaign?

Posted by: K~Bob at February 18, 2011 09:56 PM (9b6FB)

547 @K-Bob
"Noem is a real headskratcher, tho. Was she asleep during the campaign?"

No, it was pretty obvious she was a tool of the establishment pretty quickly.

Posted by: **** at February 18, 2011 10:12 PM (TC/9F)

548 I think it's time to stop using the term "RINO" for these people. Fiscal conservatives are the RINOs; the big government Republicans are the mainstream in DC.

I have been hesitant on Sarah Palin for POTUS due to electability issues, but at this point, as of now, I officially believe anybody else would be a disaster. She may be one as well (what if she quits after 30 months?) but at least she isn't a definite disaster.

"You are our only hope, Obi Cuda!"

Posted by: Ken at February 18, 2011 10:14 PM (3ar4L)

549 I think it's time to stop using the term "RINO" for these people. Fiscal conservatives are the RINOs; the big government Republicans are the mainstream in DC.

I have been hesitant on Sarah Palin for POTUS due to electability issues, but at this point, as of now, I officially believe anybody else would be a disaster. She may be one as well (what if she quits after 30 months?) but at least she isn't a definite disaster.

"You are our only hope, Obi Cuda!"

Posted by: Ken at February 18, 2011 10:15 PM (3ar4L)

550 ALWAYS NICE TO HAVE VOLUNTEERS

Posted by: SKYNET at February 18, 2011 10:18 PM (D6Uk6)

551 The tree of liberty needs watering. To all the crapweasels who slept through the 2010 wakeup call: it's on, baby. This is war.

Posted by: Peaches at February 18, 2011 10:24 PM (zxpIo)

552 "There is no history of any war being won by putting the generals in the front lines. There is no history of any war being won by putting the generals in the front lines.

Posted by: drfredc"

These people who we elected are not generals, they are supposed to be our champions. No champion ever won a fight by cowering in the corner. Btw, in the old days a commander of an army led his men into battle, the modern day types found ways to stay in the rear with the gear. How many PC wars would we fight if President Obama or Bush/Congress itself had to fight in these wars they declare?

Posted by: Africanus at February 18, 2011 10:31 PM (EDjAd)

553 Don't abandon the GOP . . . TAKE IT. Primary the infidels.

Posted by: exdeadhead at February 18, 2011 10:58 PM (Pnk8a)

554 As sensitive as Jews are to racism, Jew-baiting comments like some of those above will literally drive and keep Jews in the Democrat party.

Thank you, to those of you who called them out for being idiots. You give me hope.

/Jewish
//WaaaAAy conservative

Posted by: Irritable Pundit at February 18, 2011 10:59 PM (Bitp4)

555 Ace's post makes me want to throw-up.

Posted by: madamex at February 18, 2011 11:04 PM (eKfWX)

556 Is there a roll-call list of all the house members? I can't find one yet.

Posted by: yambles at February 18, 2011 11:11 PM (rxaXW)

557 Welcome to the party.

The Republican Party sucks.

Let's re-up with the Tea Party, and this time branch it off as its own independent organization. First national convention in 2012. We'll win it all and save the country.

Posted by: Onlooker at February 18, 2011 11:37 PM (oB4zo)

558 People, wake the f*** up and start voting Libertarian.

Posted by: Dante at February 18, 2011 11:44 PM (mSW6F)

559 540 I don't know if anyone is going to see this, but I will proceed:

Boehner did not vote, and he's not been voting because the Speaker doesn't technically have to vote unless it's a tie-breaker.

As for a roll call, due to the number of amendments it will be some time before they release one. (A Republican staffer sent me to 2 sites earlier today and the rolls for late morning have not yet been posted.) I *can* tell you that there were two parties ...in those who voted against, those from Appropriations their ilk combined with Tea Party reps who wanted specific cuts (instead of across-the-board). As for those who voted yes, a majority of them are Republican Study Committee members, including the #4 man in the House (Rep. Jeb Hensarling) and Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 18, 2011 11:53 PM (yfJ6g)

560 The GOP is dead to me.

I wonder how Castle would have voted? Day late and a dollar short, Ace. Make that 22 billion.

Posted by: fleshbomb at February 19, 2011 01:30 AM (Ca/zm)

561 For those looking for the roll-call vote...
Read and get mad, then even

Posted by: steveegg at February 19, 2011 08:54 AM (51MkX)

562 The GOP is dead to me.
I wonder how Castle would have voted? Day late and a dollar short, Ace. Make that 22 billion.

Posted by: fleshbomb

The last action of the "only viable candidate in Delaware" was to vote for the Dream act. Go ahead and wonder. I know how that shit stain would have voted. And he would still have been in the minority in the Senate anyway, even had we listened to our betters, ignored the Democratic process and he had been anointed Senator.

Flaky long shots are just that; long shots who are flaky. Members of the ruling class are also just that. So we persist in telling ourselves that the latter will love us, didn't really mean it, and will stop hitting us if we simply act nicer, and move around them quietly.

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 19, 2011 09:31 AM (c9Ivb)

563
People, wake light something the f*** up and start voting Libertarian.

Posted by: Dante

FIFY

Posted by: Blue Hen at February 19, 2011 09:33 AM (c9Ivb)

564 Well, I for one am going to quit listening to anybody in Washington, DC. This is just stupidity on the part of the Repubs. I think we need to get rid of some of the Republican Senators, starting with Corker and Alexander of the Volunteer state. Why do we keep sending these airheads? They are not much better than Jim Sasser.

Posted by: Bill54 at February 19, 2011 10:26 AM (m7Pub)

565 "Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?"

This sound bite is from the last Sex Pistols concert at the Winterland, San Francisco, in 1979; it was Johnny Rotten's farewell taunt to the audience.

Posted by: Bill Carson at February 19, 2011 11:01 AM (feqs8)

566 To hell with all these damn Party's, and yes that include the Libertarian!

I'm froming my on Party?..... The Bubba's PARTY!!!????

IF You go a fucking GUN and know how to use it?....Your Welcome!

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Posted by: KILL A LIB at February 19, 2011 11:17 AM (k5pRn)

567

Posted by: Curtis Jewell at February 19, 2011 12:56 PM (h2xcJ)

568 Yes. Primary any idiots who stand up as willing targets and don't vote right. My state's already taken out one incumbent senator that way who was running last year (actually, he got taken out even before the primary - he was 3rd at my state's Republican party convention, and the primary is between the top 2) - arranging to take out the other one can happen if necessary next year. (I think my rep is voting sanely, I'm in that state's 3rd district.)

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Posted by: Dr.IraQ at February 19, 2011 01:24 PM (iLXG2)

570 Stay out of our TEA Party with your failed foreign policy follies, please.

Posted by: Andrea at February 19, 2011 01:58 PM (ncfgZ)

571 Jesus H. Christ...

We lost Allen West on this one. I'm not even sure how to process this. Allen West opposed an additional $22 billion in spending cuts. I don't believe it.

Here's some of the breakdown. There are 84 new Republicans in the House after November. Of them, 28 opposed the $22 billion in spending cuts. That's 33% of the newbies. Of the 158 Republicans who were already there, 64 opposed the $22 billion in cuts. That's 41% of them. 41% versus 33%, that's... not much of a gap.

I'm not sure electing more Republicans will do a hell of a lot.

Posted by: Misha at February 19, 2011 02:43 PM (WO6uQ)

572 Ros-Leitenen and West both voted against the amendment. They are solid and rational. There's got to be a reason either tactical or local to Florida of enough import to swing their votes.

Posted by: RCL at February 19, 2011 04:31 PM (gH12e)

573 BTW, my Rep., D. Hunter voted Aye. Hunter's 100% on defense so West and Leitenen can't be holding out over defense issues.

Posted by: RCL at February 19, 2011 04:34 PM (gH12e)

574 I can't say "I told you so", because I didn't predict exactly this (Vox Day and Karl Denninger did, more power to 'em), but I _can_ say (and it deserves pounding in, even given that lots of people have probably said it already) that you are getting exactly what you voted for with the big-tent stuff.

And the pre-election lectures about how we all needed to pull together, get more sure-thing Republican-label senators as opposed to trying for principled hardliners, all that stuff?

Yeah. Ok.

The interest on the national debt is going to quadruple to 20% of federal revenues over the next 10 years, assuming tax returns stay roughly constant. Social Security is broke right now: there is no actual money in the fund, in order to cover the deficit the Treasury has to issue yet more debt. The proposed cut was $100 billion; the deficit is 1.7 trillion. This doesn't come close to even predending to getting the debt under control before the interest payments become crippling. The banking sector has _still_ not been resolved, all the bad debt and fraud is still on the books at imaginary valuations, none of the executives who sold crap while being fully aware it was crap have been prosecuted. The point where the USA suffers a critical failure of one form or another is approaching ever faster - before 2020 is a reasonable estimate.

It is a joke. They are not taking any of this seriously, least of all their own responsibilities. TheAmurrikanPeepul care more about Dancing With The Stars and teenybopper singers than the sky that's about to fall on their heads. The left, at least, has the courage of its convictions: they stop work, they go on strike, they raise hell, they get in people's faces, they get the politicians good and SCARED of them. The right - even the Tea Party - gets together and has a nice polite weekend fling where everybody behaves well and gets it out of their system and then goes home quietly afterward and shows up at work on Monday and nobody has to worry about consequences.

The politicians aren't scared of you. That's why they don't listen.

"Rah rah rah we can win elections and turn this thing around" is optimistic, patriotic, American, and wrong.

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