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How Do You Say Something You Know Isn't True And Avoid Getting Called On It? Let The Media Show You!

Suppose I want to say "Jared Loughner was inspired by a steady diet of Rush Limbaugh, episodes of Sarah Palin's Alaska, and Tea Party rallies."

What is the defect in that? Well, if you're a leftist, it's perfect in every single way: It connects a shooting to your political enemies and gives you an advantage you can't get via your policies. But the one problem with it -- which isn't a problem so much as an obstacle -- is that it's simply not true.

But it's so wonderful! It should be true; the fact that is not is more of a defect of reality than a defect of this wonderful sentence you've written in your head. Your ideology is perfect in its precision; it's reality that's messy, disordered, and off-message.

So there's this sentence. Gorgeous, really. It deserves to be written. It deserves to be carved in ten foot tall white marble megaliths.

But you can't write it. Because of that one little problem obstacle. If you write it, you will immediately have it fact-checked, and facts being stupid things, you will be forced to state it is not, in fact, true.

This is a symptom of what I mentioned yesterday, the lack of any "Phase 2" (in South Park Gnome terminology) to connect Phase 1, steal underpants/complain about rhetoric of violence from the right, with Phase 3, Profit!!! Two out of three ain't bad, liberals figure, and so what if there is nothing to connect 1 to 3? We'll just talk up 1 and 3 until we're blue in the face and assume 2.

See, assumptions and implications can't be fact-checked. You didn't actually say them, so no one can claim you said something untrue. You didn't say it; you just implied the living fuck out of it. But there's no such thing as an implication-check, now is there?

Watch Newsweek do this. Look at the headline, then look at the picture.

The Missed Warning Signs

A 2009 study warned that the rise of right-wing extremism could spur violent attacks. But the report was attacked by Republicans, including now-Speaker John Boehner.

Now-- having headlined the story about "right wing extremism" and shown a picture of Jared Lee Loughner to illustrate it, you'd think they'd go on to explain how it is Jared Lee Loughner is connected to the right, or even read a single right-leaning website at all. You'd be wrong.

Because they have no evidence of that, and if they claimed they did, they'd be fact-checked. So they don't say it. They just imply it so strongly it's as if they said it -- but better, because they didn't say it, so there's no fact-check, and no need for retraction or correction!

This is what American liberal journalism is reduced to -- lying by implication.

Here's as close as Newsweek's editors will permit this author to imply a connection:

In the wake of last weekend’s attempted assassination of Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, which left six dead and 14 wounded, the report’s warning of a lone wolf attack from someone with extremist tendencies seems prescient.

Note the headline spoke of "right wing" violence, but here, in connecting Loughner to the report, they will only say "someone with extremist tendencies." Which, by the way, is a lie, because we usually do not discuss psychopaths as "extremists," which implies a political orthodoxy.

Which Loughner didn't have -- though, to the extent he did, it was more left than right.

But they resort to that because they need to connect this up with "right wing extremists," but can't say "right wing." That is not proven. Not only is that not proven, there is no evidence at all to suggest it and a fair amount to suggest against it! So instead, they say one thing in the headline -- so you know what they mean -- and put the image of Loughner right below it, without writing a single sentence that actually links the two.

When they have the chance to write such a sentence -- they don't. Because they know it's untrue, they know it will be fact-checked. So they just continue implying it, this time by shifting the terms of discussion from the headline's "right wing extremism" to a general description of a maniac, "person with extremist tendencies."

And, at the end, their method of implying a connection is to report... that no one has found a connection. Yet, would be the operative but unstated word here.

While discussion has swirled around possible ties between accused gunman Jared Loughner and right-wing extremists, DHS on Monday said department officials “have not established any such possible link.” Levin doesn’t believe extremism was the sole driving factor. “This guy is a mentally deranged person first,” he said, and noted that the mentally ill often latch on to conspiracy theories to layer over their already “obsessive and aggressive template.”

Note how deftly the lie was there -- they admit that there is no connection to the political extremism they're talking about here, none at all, but then follow thyat up Levin doesn't believe extremism was the sole driving factor, implying that it was a factor, just not the "sole driving" one. There may be other factors; but this one, extremism, was most important.

That sentence following the last one which stated there had been NO ESTABLISHED CONNECTION to politcal extremism of any kind, left right or center.

In just ten short words, without an actual positive sentence affirming that Loughner was driven by political extremism of a recognizable sort (such as the type outlined in this Homeland Security report), the article states that he was in fact driven by just that political extremism -- by implication, of course.

Again, they can't say, so they imply it. They cannot say "Loughner was driven by political extremism of the right" -- not true -- so they say no link has been made as of yet, but political extremism was not the sole driving factor behind the crime. There may have been other factors, other than the political extremism that was the main factor.

A factor so main that Newsweek cannot cite a single person declaring that affirmatively in a positive sentence.

The rest of the article is about that Homeland Security article saying veterans will come home and murder people and how smart a report it was. There is no connection to Loughner within the article other than what I have sketched for you.

The article ends on this lie:

Aaron Mehta is a reporter for the Center for Public Integrity, a nonprofit, nonpartisan investigative reporting organization in Washington D.C.

See, that's a lie, because "nonpartisan" is a legal category meaning simply "not formally, legally associated with either party. But the media uses this to hide the ideological affiliation of leftist organizations -- yes, the organization is technically "nonpartisan" on its paperwork it files with DC. But that is not an accurate description -- a more accurate one would be "extremely leftist organization which almost exclusively champions liberal and leftist causes and the Democratic Party."

Another way to describe it is a corporate shell of George Soros' greater Marxism, Inc., via his Open Society Initiative. (page 19)

But you choose -- those interesting, informative descriptions, or Newsweek's choice of the meaningless legalism "nonpartisan."

Note to the media: If a lie is so obvious and disprovable that you are forbidden to state it directly, isn't that a sign you shouldn't imply the fuck out of it?

Isn't that both dishonest and cowardly? You won't even write the words. You know they're not true. If you know they're not true -- why are you writing them via implication?


Another Way to Put It... JackStraw notices them doing this on Hardball; I've been noticing it too. This is the new normal of "journalism." Which JackStraw describes as:

This is the new technique. Don't explicitly connect the dots, just put the dots an inch apart and let the viewer connect them.

I want to point this out, and I think it's important: They're doing this partly because they're political hacks and partly because they're pandering to their leftist partisan audience, which wants to see assertions like this -- true or not! - -and will punish them by tuning out if they're not fed a steady diet of political pornography.

Newsweek's and Matthew's viewers don't show up for the truth or facts; they show up for leftist talking points. Now, both of these having pretenses of journalistic enterprises, they cannot simply lie directly. So they don't. They just, as JackStraw says, put two dots thisclose to each other and let their hyperpartisan audiences fill them in.

And, if the public begins to subconsciously associate the two together through the cute use of Loughner's picture under headlines about "right-wing extremism," so much the better.

Let me again point out that the media is very, very concerned if the "right wing" has "misinformation" about ObamaCare -- like the "misinformation" it will increase spending -- and works overtime to correct these misunderstandings by stupid conservatives.

And boy do they. And then they make fun of us for being so stupid as to think a trillion dollars in new government spending will actually increase government spending.

But notice what happens when the left if possessed of a belief that isn't true. Do they look right into the camera and say, "Look, I know what you're thinking, but the evidence does not support that?"

No. They pander to it. Without saying it's true they imply it's true; they assume it's true; they devote articles and "news segments" to suggesting it's true.

Can't say it's true, because it's not; but the leftist audience believes it's true, and whatever you do, you must not contradict them. You must reinforce their beliefs, even if you know they're factually simply wrong.

By the leftists, of the leftists, for the leftists.

Oh: A commenter points out the Center for Public Integrity is also funded by terrorist bomb-maker and Obama political patron Bill Ayers' Annenberg Foundation (a foundation he gave Obama a nice plush job at).

Another Good Article: Someone (I forget who) noted that a blog called "Chequerboard" had also used the South Park Gnomes analogy.

The article doesn't just talk about that -- it's a long-ish recapitulation of the left's lies with lots of good quotes beating them back.


Posted by: SPADES-OF: ACE at 05:07 PM




Comments

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1 It turns out it was all conservatives' faultanyway. From a poster on Little Green Footballs:

"In fact, there is no balance—none whatsoever. Only one side has
made the rhetoric of armed revolt against an oppressive tyranny the
guiding spirit of its grassroots movement and its midterm campaign. Only
one side routinely invokes the Second Amendment as a form of swagger
and intimidation, not-so-coyly conflating rights with threats. Only one
side’s activists bring guns to democratic political gatherings. Only one
side has a popular national TV host who uses his platform to
indoctrinate viewers in the conviction that the President is an alien,
totalitarian menace to the country. Only one side fills the AM waves
with rage and incendiary falsehoods. Only one side has an iconic leader,
with a devoted grassroots following, who can’t stop using violent
imagery and dividing her countrymen into us and them, real and fake. Any
sentient American knows which side that is; to argue otherwise is
disingenuous."

Posted by: WalrusRex at January 11, 2011 05:10 PM (xxgag)

2 In retrospect, that was probably not the best dollar Sidney Harman ever spent.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at January 11, 2011 05:10 PM (b0BN0)

3 From the Center for Public Integrities Wiki page.

"Funding from George Soros
The Center has been criticized for accepting large funds from George Soros, a politically active billionaire and critic of the Bush administration.[25][28][29][30]. The Web site of one of Soros' organizations, the Open Society Institute, discloses four grants to the Center, all made before his entry into the 2004 presidential contest. They are:
A $72,400 one-year grant in 2000 supporting "an investigative journalism series on prosecutorial misconduct."[32]
A $75,000 one-year grant in 2001 supporting "an examination of wrongful convictions resulting from prosecutorial misconduct."[33]
A $100,000 one-year grant in 2002 "to investigate the political spending of the telecommunications industry on the federal, state and local levels."[34]
A $1 million three-year grant in 2002 "to support the Global Access Project."[35]
The first two grants funded what eventually became the "Harmful Error" report, which was headed by Steve Weinberg. Weinberg is a professional journalist and former director of Investigative Reporters and Editors.
The telecommunications grant supported the launch of the Center's ongoing "Well Connected" project. According to the Center's site, other funding for that endeavor has been provided by The Ford Foundation[36]. The project has won an Online News Association award for enterprise reporting[37] and the Sigma Delta Chi Award for Public Service in Online Journalism[22].
According to its Web site, the Global Access project—now known as Global Integrity—seeks to "collect and disseminate trustworthy, credible, comprehensive and timely data and information on governance and corruption trends around the world." It publishes the Global Integrity Index, "an annual ranking of 50-100 diverse countries in more than 290 indicators of openness, governance, and anti-corruption mechanisms[38]."
Despite their previous connections, the Center documented Soros' political donations during the 2004 political elections as a part of its "Silent Partners" project, which won an Online Journalism Association award for its reporting on the "527" groups that bypassed campaign finance disclosure regulations to funnel millions of dollars to both candidates[22].
[edit]Funding from Bill Moyers and the Schumann Foundation
A 1999 report in the Seattle Times raised questions about the ethical behavior of PBS journalist Bill Moyers by documenting examples of his work that featured sources whose organizations have been funded by the Schumann Foundation, a philanthropic group he heads. Among the recipients of Schumann grants featured in Moyers' journalism has been the Center's founder Charles Lewis.[citation needed]
In 2004, Moyers and the Center were further criticized by Cliff Kinkaid of Accuracy in Media[29], who emphasized that Moyers has also served on the board of the Open Society Institute[39], a foundation started by a George Soros that has itself also funded projects at the Center.

Posted by: Mr Pink at January 11, 2011 05:13 PM (h2+O0)

4 Good thing no one reads or cares about Newsweek, the $1.00 empire, any more, eh?

Posted by: Marty at January 11, 2011 05:14 PM (5aIHo)

5 Aaron Mehta is a reporter for the Center for Public Integrity, a
nonprofit, nonpartisan investigative reporting organization in
Washington D.C.

Yeah, they're nonpartisan, that's the ticket.

Posted by: John Lovitz at January 11, 2011 05:14 PM (P18+/)

6 blood libel, you'd think someone in a leadership position somewhere would swing back, bring a knife to this gunfight to punish their enemies?

Posted by: joeindc44 at January 11, 2011 05:14 PM (QxSug)

7 Newsweek: Working hard each and every day to prove it's worth a dollar.

Posted by: Cicero at January 11, 2011 05:14 PM (QKKT0)

8 As I said earlier, calling them the MFM falls short. The media has outgrown and pushed way out past m*th*r f^ck*r territory. A new label is needed.

Posted by: Follower of Cthulhu at January 11, 2011 05:14 PM (F/4zf)

9 Isn't that both dishonest and cowardly?

Why, yes, yes it is.

Posted by: Another catchphrase at January 11, 2011 05:15 PM (P18+/)

10 STOP RAISING MY BLOOD PRESSURE, ACE. GODDAMMIT.

Posted by: Jeff B. at January 11, 2011 05:15 PM (NjYDy)

11 A little off topic... we keep hearing that Loughner was an independent who didn't vote in 2010. Who did he vote for in 2008?

The media are an arm of the Left. The Left aren't stoner hippies anymore. They are the Nazi party. I can't think of any plank in the Nazi platform they don't wholeheartedly support. Propaganda was a huge part of the Nazi path to power. Destroying their enemies with libel and slander is no big deal. They consider genocide and generational theft as proper economic tools. While it is acceptable to be outraged over the media's action re: AZ shooter we shouldn't in any way be surprised.

Posted by: Chicago Jedi at January 11, 2011 05:16 PM (6ftzF)

12 From now on any article related to anyone in the media should have a headline followed up with a non-sequitur.

"Paul Krugman may be a nobel prize winner, but there sure are a lot of pedophiles who have beards."

Posted by: John J at January 11, 2011 05:16 PM (mx7p/)

13 Bill Moyers funds these jackasses too.

Posted by: Mr Pink at January 11, 2011 05:16 PM (h2+O0)

14 @1 So what side does that? He doesn't say.

Posted by: dagny at January 11, 2011 05:16 PM (+Z6ve)

15 dear msm, people aren't buying it.
signed,
reality

Posted by: joeindc44 at January 11, 2011 05:17 PM (QxSug)

16 This is the new technique. Don't explicitly connect the dots, just put the dots an inch apart and let the viewer connect them.

Matthews is doing the same damn thing right now. He is blasting Palin over and over again for her "gunsight" map and talking about the shooting but every now and then tossing out "I'm not saying that Palin is responsible but..."

Yea, sure you're not you drooling dick.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2011 05:17 PM (TMB3S)

17 And the Center for PublicIntegrity is a Soros front group.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 11, 2011 05:17 PM (TPgM8)

18 Oh fuck, now he's got Sheriff Dropkick flat out stating that Palin is responsible.

This shit is going to spin out of control.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2011 05:18 PM (TMB3S)

19 No adjectives, please.

Posted by: Cowardly Cunts at January 11, 2011 05:18 PM (FcR7P)

20 Only one side has an iconic leader, with a devoted grassroots following, who can’t stop using violent imagery and dividing her countrymen into us and them, real and fake.
...so true.

Posted by: kefka at January 11, 2011 05:18 PM (VC56G)

21 We're not saying Sarah Palin had mutliple abortions as a teenager, but studies didpredict a sharp rise in teen abortions if funding for birth control instruction was cut off by extremist right wing pressure.

Posted by: The MSM, More Clever Than You Can Ever Imagine at January 11, 2011 05:18 PM (QKKT0)

22 OMG ACE THESE FUCKERS GET FUNDING FROM THE ANNENBURG FOUNDATION


BILL FUCKING AYERS.
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

Posted by: Mr Pink at January 11, 2011 05:18 PM (h2+O0)

23 Glenn Beck just quoted Yoda. That's awesome.

Posted by: NC Ref at January 11, 2011 05:18 PM (/izg2)

24 Posted by: dagny at January 11, 2011 05:16 PM (+Z6ve)

That's because, as Ace pointed out, he can't without lying.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 11, 2011 05:20 PM (8y9MW)

25 16
This is the new technique. Don't explicitly connect the dots, just put the dots an inch apart and let the viewer connect them.

The problem is that people may connect the dots in ways you didn't intend. That's what's happening now. As my kids would say, media FAIL!

Posted by: pep at January 11, 2011 05:20 PM (P18+/)

26 At the root of the argument is a target. that's it. that's lame.

Posted by: joeindc44 at January 11, 2011 05:20 PM (QxSug)

27 Does anyone else here find it interesting that every democrat member of congress joined a conference callthe afternoon after the shooting? Funny how they and the media all have the same talking points since then.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 11, 2011 05:20 PM (yIZJ3)

28 8
Oh fuck, now he's got Sheriff Dropkick flat out stating that Palin is responsible.





This shit is going to spin out of control.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2011 05:18 PM (TMB3S)

Are you serious?

Posted by: Timbo at January 11, 2011 05:20 PM (ph9vn)

29 I'm seriously kicking around the concept of a class action by those who self-identify as members of the Tea Party for libel and defamation. Hell, Rush commented today that he couldn't sue because he's a public figure. I think that much of the media is standing right on the line even for public figures.

Posted by: alexthechick at January 11, 2011 05:21 PM (bQ5xy)

30 >>Are you serious?

Yep.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2011 05:21 PM (TMB3S)

31 They want a righty to go postal so bad it aches.

Here's another trick...employed especially effectively while the fog of news is still present. One MFM agent reports breathlessly that "So and so speculates that Mr Lunatic is disgruntled with immigration and health care." The word "speculates" keeps them clear of fact checking. Then the other MFM outlets report that "other outlets are reporting blah blah blah'. And it goes. Wash rinse repeat.

Soon, 5 or 6 "credible" MFM outlets are running the same sentence and it gains traction as a possibility the truth. By the time the facts come out, many have stopped listening and any walk backs are infinitely less passionate and effective.

I heard on multiple stations he was a "Afgan vet". How'd that work out?

Again, I'm not trying to be a bomb thrower, but the left is aching for conflict...

Posted by: The Hammer at January 11, 2011 05:21 PM (32ubA)

32

Operation Pipewrench!

*sigh*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 11, 2011 05:22 PM (TAjuH)

33 Oh fuck, now he's got Sheriff Dropkick flat out stating that Palin is responsible.



This shit is going to spin out of control.

Give me a quote, give me a link, give me something to verify this because my head is about to fucking explode if it's true.

Hey, want to know what's really funny? This shit finally has me supporting Sarah Palin! Never thought it would happen!

Posted by: Jeff B. at January 11, 2011 05:23 PM (NjYDy)

34 The mistake, here, is assuming the left gives two bloody turds about whether or not anyone thinks they're honest or dishonest. ends to a mean or means to an end. They don't f'ing care.
Honesty isn't in their vocabulary.

Posted by: tangonine at January 11, 2011 05:23 PM (x3YFz)

35 I can't think of any plank in the Nazi platform they don't wholeheartedly support

Read some of the speeches. They were very nationalist. Complete opposite of our socialists.

Posted by: t-bird at January 11, 2011 05:23 PM (FcR7P)

36 Posted by: The Hammer at January 11, 2011 05:21 PM (32ubA)

He said bomb! Run!

Posted by: NJProgressive at January 11, 2011 05:24 PM (LH6ir)

37 JackStraw -

MORE DETAILS, PLEASE. What channel? Talking to who? Any quotes?

Posted by: Jeff B. at January 11, 2011 05:24 PM (NjYDy)

38 If we ever run out of stupid people, MSM will be in serious trouble

Posted by: Juicer at January 11, 2011 05:24 PM (WJi8t)

39 Annnnnnnnd segue into Southern Poverty Law Center.

I'll tell you what, I'll tone down my rhetoric when the left stops lying.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2011 05:25 PM (TMB3S)

40 Dude the Annenburg Foundation, which helped fund Bill Ayers in the Annenburg Challenge, a fucking terrorist who tried to bomb fucking buildings, this fucking group also funds the "Center for Public Integrity".

The irony meter is about to implode and form a black hole.

Posted by: Mr Pink at January 11, 2011 05:25 PM (h2+O0)

41 "Journalism" became an activist calling at about the time that members of the profession stopped calling themselves "Reporters," replacing it with the term "Journalists."

Posted by: angler at January 11, 2011 05:25 PM (SwjAj)

42 Rush is calling him Sheriff Dipstick.

Posted by: JULIUS-OF: FLAVIUS at January 11, 2011 05:25 PM (SJ6/3)

43 12
From now on any article related to anyone in the media should have a headline followed up with a non-sequitur.

"Paul Krugman is a nobel prize winner, but despite that, my dog apparently knows more about economics than he does. Plus, he wets the bed." Damn, I'm doing it wrong.

Posted by: pep at January 11, 2011 05:25 PM (P18+/)

44 If it's Sarah Palin's fault, you must arrest her. Surely someone with Sheriff Dipstick's (sorry, Joe. Dipstick II) vast Constitutional expertise knows that.

Posted by: t-bird at January 11, 2011 05:25 PM (FcR7P)

45 "Fucking cowardly cunts."
C'mon SPADES-OF: ACE, tell us how you really feel.

I like including "worm-headed sack of monkey shit" in my rants.

Posted by: Count de Monet (40% evil) who quotes Clark Griswold at January 11, 2011 05:26 PM (XBM1t)

46 This is the new technique. Don't explicitly connect the dots, just put the dots an inch apart and let the viewer connect them.

Don't these people have the slightest respect for intellectual property rights?

Posted by: Leni Riefenstahl at January 11, 2011 05:26 PM (gQ+XA)

47 >>What channel? Talking to who? Any quotes?

Matthews, Hardball.

He is really going nuts.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2011 05:26 PM (TMB3S)

48 This shit finally has me supporting Sarah Palin! Never thought it would happen!Zee? Ve tolt you zo.

Posted by: der spiegel at January 11, 2011 05:26 PM (2rOwc)

49 How similar this is to:

[Obastard verbatim in re: Gates incident]
Now, I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role race played in that, but I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry; number two, that the Cambridge Police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home; and number three, what I think we know separate and apart from this incident is that there is a long history in this country of African Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately. That's just a fact.

One, he doesn't have all the facts; two, he nevertheless concludes the police acted stupidly despite his stated ignorance of other circumstances; three, he waves the bloody race flag pulled off his handy straw man, his one indispensable tool, despite his stated ignorance of the facts in question.

Fucking shitstain demagogue.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 11, 2011 05:26 PM (AZGON)

50 I was thinking about this and the media dishonesty, and the whole, thing and I thought of an analogy...
The media goes around saying now "there's no evidence that Loughner was a Right-Winger, but incidienary rhertoric on the right may be related to it." What is this like, How do I as a conservative perceive this.
Let me explain.
When a husband says "Honey I'm sorry, but it was your fault." What's does the wife hear? Is it
"I'm sorry,"
or "it was your fault"
or "Honey I'm a dips***, who wants a divorce for you to take the kids away from me and leave me paying child support for the next 18 years."
We all know she hear the third one. WHY? Because the But overwhelms everything else, in the same way Leftist Media, your sick twisted "analysis" screams that you think conservatives are an evil other. Guess what, we're not, we just have different opinions, but this whole conversation has revealed clearly what you think of me. And really as a result, it is depressing, because it's not the way it's supposed to be, your political opponents are supposed to be your enemies, but we're treated worse than that, as worse than terrorists. YUCK.

Posted by: Gov98 at January 11, 2011 05:27 PM (+yyD7)

51 They have nothing else, Ace. The facts are against them. The "narrative" has abandoned them. The sentiment of the American people is now strongly against them. What can they do <b><i>other</i></b> than lie, whether explicitly or implicitly?

Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at January 11, 2011 05:27 PM (FeYbR)

52 If we ever run out of stupid people, MSM will be in serious trouble
Posted by: Juicer at January 11, 2011 05:24 PM (WJi8t)

Stupid people fuck like bunnies. No chance of that

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 11, 2011 05:27 PM (0GFWk)

53 Dumbnik jst told Chris Matthews he had NO IDEA conservatives would react badly when he accused them of complicity in murder.

Posted by: dagny at January 11, 2011 05:27 PM (+Z6ve)

54 Jesus H. Christ. Have they no shred of decency left? This is agit-prop worthy of the old KGB.

Posted by: rockmom at January 11, 2011 05:27 PM (w/gVZ)

55 Facts? Never heard of them.

Posted by: Charles Gibson at January 11, 2011 05:27 PM (b6qrg)

56 It's my nature.

Posted by: the scorpion at January 11, 2011 05:27 PM (S5YRY)

57 1972 Novas are not a missed warning sign.

Posted by: GM at January 11, 2011 05:28 PM (FcR7P)

58 Matthews on Oswald: 'He wasn't a man of the left, but of the communist world.' WTF?!

Posted by: dagny at January 11, 2011 05:28 PM (+Z6ve)

59 He is really going nuts.

If this is really true, it's actually a good thing. It was already backfiring on him, and now that will accelerate.

I honestly do think this guy is flipping out because he's covering his ass.

Posted by: Jeff B. at January 11, 2011 05:28 PM (NjYDy)

60 This picture with caption is so over the top, I didn't get mad, I laughed out loud.

Posted by: Spike at January 11, 2011 05:28 PM (WLxeI)

61 But you can't write it. Because of that one little problem obstacle. If you write it, you will immediately have it fact-checked, and facts being stupid things, you will be forced to state it is not, in fact, true.

Since when does the MFM fact check? They invent shit just to suit their political agenda

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 11, 2011 05:29 PM (1Jaio)

62 Oh BTW guys Obama just called the Sheriff and thanked him for his service.

Posted by: Mr Pink at January 11, 2011 05:29 PM (h2+O0)

63 So far the comments at Newsweek's site are almost 100% calling bullshit. That's somewhat encouraging.

Posted by: rockmom at January 11, 2011 05:30 PM (w/gVZ)

64 Center for Public Integrity

Depends on what your definition of "is" is.

Words, just words?


Democrats certainly have a problem with assigning meaning to words, don't they.

Posted by: LC LaWedgie at January 11, 2011 05:30 PM (kb0wl)

65 The evil, conservative/Christian boogeyman is all they have left to keep the people scared enough to stay on the plantation. Its pitiful really.

Posted by: kefka at January 11, 2011 05:30 PM (VC56G)

66 Matthews on Oswald: 'He wasn't a man of the left, but of the communist world.' WTF?!
Posted by: dagny at January 11, 2011 05:28 PM (+Z6ve)

And if truth be told, the commies wanted nothing to do with Oswald. In the end Oswald like this Jared kid were both just bat shit crazy. Neither had anything to really do with politics

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 11, 2011 05:30 PM (0GFWk)

67 I guess the proper answer to things like what #1 posted

***"In fact, there is no balance—none whatsoever. Only one side has made the rhetoric of armed revolt against an oppressive tyranny the guiding spirit of its grassroots movement and its midterm campaign. Only one side routinely invokes the Second Amendment as a form of swagger and intimidation, not-so-coyly conflating rights with threats. Only one side’s activists bring guns to democratic political gatherings. Only one side has a popular national TV host who uses his platform to indoctrinate viewers in the conviction that the President is an alien, totalitarian menace to the country. Only one side fills the AM waves with rage and incendiary falsehoods. Only one side has an iconic leader, with a devoted grassroots following, who can’t stop using violent imagery and dividing her countrymen into us and them, real and fake. Any sentient American knows which side that is; to argue otherwise is disingenuous."***

is so?

so what? even if everything you say is true, so what? What's the next step, there is none. The guy's a UFO nut who was either a lefty or non political. So what does that have to do with anything?

Posted by: joeindc44 at January 11, 2011 05:30 PM (QxSug)

68 Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2011 05:18 PM (TMB3S)

Presuming that's true, and the other "facts" we have (multiple previous death threats, other actionable warnings, etc.) she should sue him for Defamation so fast his head spins.

When it's some pundit on the Left saying it, that's one thing. When it's the man in charge of the investigation "speculating" that's completely different.

And, since there would be no proof of what he's alleging, the "the truth is the sovereign defense" wouldn't enter into it- as a trained lawman, he should know better than to draw conclusions based on no, or (at most) spotty evidence.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 11, 2011 05:30 PM (8y9MW)

69 >>Dude the Annenburg Foundation, which helped fund Bill Ayers in the Annenburg Challenge

And just who do you think was on the Annenburg board and awarded that grant to Ayers?

Hint, he's black, with jug ears, and lives on Pennsylvania Ave in D.C.

I'm really getting tired of having everything I said would happen before Obama was elected come true.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2011 05:31 PM (TMB3S)

70 The theory that conservatives have small brains and an innatefear of new experiences has not been conclusively established by the medical evidence, but studiesstronglysuggest that brain structure plays a crucial role in certain aspects of human behavior.

Posted by: The MSM, More Clever Than You Can Ever Imagine at January 11, 2011 05:31 PM (QKKT0)

71 “What is government if words have no meaning?” … Tyranny

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at January 11, 2011 05:31 PM (tvs2p)

72 Who in the Tea Party doesn't have a rusted 1974 Chevy Nova inthe driveway?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 11, 2011 05:32 PM (b6qrg)

73 like Griswell (or whatever his name was) at the end of Plan Nine From Outer Space said, can you prove it isn't true..?
The reality-based community at work: they know that the only people who do this kind of insane act are (a) rightwingers and (b) leftists who were pushed over the edge by rightwingers and rightwing governments. No reason to prove anything beyond that... but if someone who knew Loughner came forward and said, "you know, he told me back in 2008 that he really hated Palin..." that person would be asked for rock-solid evidence as well as proof that he wasn't biased towards the rightwing...

Posted by: mallfly at January 11, 2011 05:33 PM (bJm7W)

74 65
The evil, conservative/Christian boogeyman is all they have left to keep
the people scared enough to stay on the plantation. Its pitiful
really.

Sadly, it works. There masses of asses on the left that truly believe that Palin and the "X-tan" gang are coming to take away their pron, boozes, fapping, and other liberties.

And all the while, the Left schemes to take away "bad" foods, "bad" vehicles, and even going so far as to attack video game systems for consuming too much energy, to Gaia's detriment.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 11, 2011 05:33 PM (c0A3e)

75 They are doing their best to get the public angry. It's so obvious.

Posted by: dagny at January 11, 2011 05:33 PM (+Z6ve)

76 Have they no shred of decency left? This is agit-prop worthy of the old KGB.



pfffft Like these bozos could run a gulag. It is to laugh.

Posted by: Lavrenti Beria at January 11, 2011 05:34 PM (P18+/)

77 The rest of the article is about that Homeland Security article saying
veterans will come home and murder people and how smart a report it was.
There is no connection to Loughner within the article other than what I
have sketched for you.

Did you notice how quickly they ran with the misinformation about the shooter being an veteran who had served in Afghanistan.

The second I heard that I knew this was the connection they were trying to make.

Posted by: Andy at January 11, 2011 05:34 PM (5Rurq)

78 looking at his mug shot makes me kinda sad, it's obvious he isn't there mentally , too bad he didn't get the help he needed.

Posted by: sam at January 11, 2011 05:34 PM (CnXRh)

79 That brand of rhetoric is disgusting.

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 11, 2011 05:35 PM (TPgM8)

80 This is what American liberal journalism is reduced to -- lying by implication.
And don't forget just plain outright lying, as well. They do that with increasing frequency. The mainstream media is nothing more than an amplifier pumping out Marxist feedback.

Posted by: Soap MacTavish at January 11, 2011 05:35 PM (vbh31)

81 When I saw that this horrible murder occured, but then found out I could blame this on all the cliches I put in every post, ie racist, tea-bagger, extremist, nazi, anti-semite, facists, I literally nutted in my pants. This hit every sweet spot on my body and I orgasmed right then and there. Normally I need a nice firm fist engorged to the wrist along with a dog collar, but no this time just hearing this news was good enough for me. I want to visit the crime scene and roll around in the blood.

Posted by: Charles Johnson at January 11, 2011 05:35 PM (h2+O0)

82 Newsweek bought Ingsoc and Newspeak from me for 99¢. They didn't have more than a dollar.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 11, 2011 05:35 PM (AZGON)

83 well, Newsweek is a lefty rag now, this craptastic stuff isn't a surprise.

Posted by: joeindc44 at January 11, 2011 05:36 PM (QxSug)

84 Posted by: pep at January 11, 2011 05:25 PM (P18+/)

It has been reported on at least one Military discussion group that Paul Krugman is a chronic bed-wetter. In addition it was rumored that the first evidence of this was reported to the police by a young child. How the child had the information is unknown, but it has been suggested that Krugman, who wears a full beard similar to many child molesters, has been to Thailand, which is a hotbed of pedophilia aimed at wealthy tourists from the West. Krugman earns a large salary from the NY Times, and won the Nobel Prize in economics, valued at more than $1,000,000.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at January 11, 2011 05:36 PM (LH6ir)

85 This crap has me so mad, that I decided to take a break from reading about it a little while ago and paid bills to calm me down. How sad is that? Paying bills now calms me down.

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2011 05:36 PM (VuLos)

86 Great they are using Alan Grayson and Jim Moran as voices of sanity. Ta DA! Through the looking glass.

Posted by: dagny at January 11, 2011 05:37 PM (+Z6ve)

87 Posted by: dagny at January 11, 2011 05:28 PM (+Z6ve)

Well, at least they're being less subtle about it, now.
Lefties have been trying to separate themselves from Communists in people's minds for at least the last 2 years. They know that, factually, the two ideologies are the same in virtually every particular (indeed, I doubt if they're two different ideologies), but if they can say "Left" or "Liberal" and what people hear is "Rainbows and Unicorns," they've done what they're seeking to do.

On our side, we need to push the "Liberalism = Communism" a little more strongly. Not just by saying it, but by demonstrating it. Because, as RR once quoted the head of the Communist Party USA: "The American People will never vote for Communism, but under the name of Liberalism, they will accept every one of its ideas" (rough quote, 'cause I don't remember it exactly). So, if we can make it so when the Left says "Left" or "Liberal" they hear "Communist" or "Socialist," we win.

I hate even having to think about this at the moment, but they won't stop their ideological war against us, so we can't lay down our (rhetorical) arms even to mourn the dead and pray for the living.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 11, 2011 05:37 PM (8y9MW)

88 looking at his mug shot makes me kinda sad, it's obvious he isn't there mentally, too bad he didn't get the help he needed.
There's a photo of Chris Matthews with this post, Sam? Funny--it's not showing up in Firefox. I guess I'll have to take a look using I.E.

Posted by: andycanuck at January 11, 2011 05:38 PM (2rOwc)

89 In writing "Loughner Belongs to the Insane Party," Dalrymple made two observations. 1. The Left knew the narrative they wanted to tell—that conservative politicians and
commentators were inciting violence against liberals—and were just
waiting to fill in the names and places. 2. The second reason for this eagerness to blame the Tea Party Right is
because many Leftists have, without reason, believed from the beginning that
those on the Right are irrational bigots inclined to anarchist violence.

Easy enough. You see just how far Alinsky disciples take their self-righteous dogma that they alone "deserve" the monopoly on respect, tolerance and authority to abuse; while all others "deserve" utter destruction by virtue of not fitting into the PC mandated template. Bill Ayers organized the means to indoctrinate youth; and Obama organized the facilitation of funding Ayers' educational system with tax funds as well as through private organizations. When Sen. Obama first made mention of his intent to run for POTUS, there were many who researched his past. One of those researchers was Stephen Diamond of the UC Santa Clara Law School and Labor Attorney who wrote many articles published online at the time. The Ayers/Obama connection was via this Annenberg Foundation funded Ayers' project series to convert public school systems into authoritarian indoctrination centers to target not only the youth and teachers, but ultimately entire families and ultimately communities to accept their ideology as the norm. It worked like a nasty charm in Chicago first. And as things played out in time, Loughner's Tucson high school was a participating affiliate in Ayers' Small School Workshop.

Loughner is a product of Ayers/Obama educational system that strongly influenced students' ideology and perceptions.

Posted by: maverick muse at January 11, 2011 05:38 PM (H+LJc)

90 Again, I'm not trying to be a bomb thrower, but the left is aching for conflict...
Posted by: The Hammer at January 11, 2011 05:21 PM (32ubA)

Yes. Yes they are. So don't fall for it. Our lack of physical reaction is killing them. The American people aren't buying this and they know it. They're dying.

Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2011 05:39 PM (AKOTK)

91 Oh fuck, now he's got Sheriff Dropkick flat out stating that Palin is responsible.
Posted by: JackStraw

So where's the link? Or are you just trying to keep morons in suspense?

Posted by: goldbricker esq at January 11, 2011 05:40 PM (h2t8r)

92 The second I heard that I knew this was the connection they were trying to make.
And the second I heard the word "Constitution", I knew another connection they were trying to make, attempting to tie the shooter to the right via the reading in the Houselast week.
You know, it's kind of ashame that the left can't use their abilities to solve the country's problems, that they can't comprehend facts and truth, that they waste so much time and energy incriminating the right.
It's also a shame that they're batshit crazy, but hey, that's the cards they were dealt.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 11, 2011 05:40 PM (b6qrg)

93 I agree with #85! I HAVE to stop watching/reading. I mistakenly switched over to Hard Ball for 5 minutes, and I have never been so ticked. Makes me want to use words that I never use. I read ACE so he can say what I want to.

Posted by: nlynch at January 11, 2011 05:40 PM (NFChR)

94 Paying bills now calms me down

Yeah, I'm going to suggest maybe you take up drinking instead.

Posted by: alexthechick at January 11, 2011 05:40 PM (bQ5xy)

95 Are we stragetizing correctly here? What happens if/when someone who is a Tea Partier or a Palin fan shoots someone? We're focusing pretty heavily here on the fact that there is no connection between crazy boy and the right. I think we ought to focus a little bit more on how that wouldn't matter anyway. There are crazies on the fringe of every political movement.

Not that even that really matters - there's no connection and they sling this shit at us.

And a big FU to the left for making us have to strategize about a freakin tragedy like this!

Posted by: JohnW at January 11, 2011 05:40 PM (sGD13)

96 It's almost as if they saw the polls saying most people didn't believe them and doubled down.

And why is it that we are even in this arena of debate, where we should self-censor on account of what a nut may do? As if nuts are rational and their actions flow from point to point.

Maybe, just maybe: Some on the right who want to be seen as reasonable and sensible will now realize that the whole of the left absolutely fucking hates you, they want you dead, they want your family dead, they want your friends dead, they want your dog dead, they don't view you as human, your death means nothing to them.
I mean, for crissakes, when their leader kos cheered the death of Americans in Iraq, it was pretty darn clear they hate everyone and everything on the right, and it has gotten a thousand times worse since then.

Anyone see how Tim Pawlenty keeps feeding the lefty bonfire? Thanks asshole, not that I thought you had a chance, but I'll be damned if I let you anywhere near the GOP nomination now.
http://tinyurl.com/4lutw48

And a warning to future GOP hopefuls and current GOP members: You are on notice--you either side with the truth or you allow this narrative to go forward. Pick your words in your next interview carefully. Very carefully.

Posted by: Jimmuy at January 11, 2011 05:40 PM (ets+s)

97 The Pima County Sheriff looks like Loughner will at that age. /Drudge juxtaposed

Posted by: maverick muse at January 11, 2011 05:40 PM (H+LJc)

98 Posted by: goldbricker esq at January 11, 2011 05:40 PM (h2t8r)

Pretty sure he was talking about Matthews on TV. Which many morons seem to forgo.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 11, 2011 05:41 PM (8y9MW)

99 Some continue toclaim that right-wing talk radio listeners are actually able to competently make their own decisions, but experts point out thatthere is a difference in magnitude between choosing a brand of orange juice and weighing the merits of competing political ideologies.

Posted by: The MSM, More Clever Than You Can Ever Imagine at January 11, 2011 05:41 PM (QKKT0)

100 These fearful lies from Newsweek will be soiling the coffee tables of dental offices coast to coast.

Someone might actually read one.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 11, 2011 05:41 PM (AZGON)

101 Twitter, gatewaypundit: OBAMA PHONES SHERIFF DUPNIK – Thanks Him

Posted by: dagny at January 11, 2011 05:41 PM (+Z6ve)

102
Great post, Ace. You had me at:
Fucking cowardly cunts

Posted by: runningrn at January 11, 2011 05:42 PM (ihSHD)

103 Yeah, I'm going to suggest maybe you take up drinking instead.

Posted by: alexthechick at January 11, 2011 05:40 PM (bQ5xy)
I was drinking while I was paying bills.

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2011 05:42 PM (VuLos)

104 I can't wait until the GOP, to include the bad ass Tea Party Reps, call a huge news conference to squelch some of this BS.

Posted by: REALITY:DREAMER:WAIT at January 11, 2011 05:42 PM (EL+OC)

105 Twitter, gatewaypundit: OBAMA PHONES SHERIFF DUPNIK – Thanks Him

Posted by: dagny at January 11, 2011 05:41 PM (+Z6ve)\HOLY EFFIN' SHIT!!!

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2011 05:42 PM (VuLos)

106 In a phone call this afternoon with Sheriff Dupnik, according to White House spokesman Nicholas Shapiro, the President “thanked him for his department’s efforts to respond to this incident and coordinate with the FBI and Director Mueller on the investigation.”

Posted by: dagny at January 11, 2011 05:43 PM (+Z6ve)

107 Posted by: JohnW at January 11, 2011 05:40 PM (sGD13)

Unfortunately, we need to do both. The first, because they're throwing that smear right now and it needs to be deflected. The second, because, by the law of averages (or is it the law of really big numbers?) eventually there will be a right-wing crazy.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 11, 2011 05:43 PM (8y9MW)

108 It's almost as if they saw the polls saying most people didn't believe them and doubled down

It's the Democrat way. Look at what they've done with "health care reform."

Posted by: runningrn at January 11, 2011 05:43 PM (ihSHD)

109 ...lack of any "Phase 2" (in South Park Gnome terminology) to connect Phase 1, ... ,with Phase 3, Profit!!!
Two out of three ain't bad
'Meatloaf' should have got a HT on that, Ace.
For shame. Your sacred blog honour has been deeply damaged.
Buy My Clendars!

Posted by: Charles Johans Son at January 11, 2011 05:44 PM (94WgM)

110 Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2011 05:42 PM (VuLos)

I don't drink. If I did, I'm not sure I would put those two activities together. I pay quite enough on my mortgage each month, thank you.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 11, 2011 05:44 PM (8y9MW)

111 Man there is only one thing I think of when I see that mugshot.

in ancient rome there was a poem
about a dog who had two bones
he picked at one he licked the other
he went in circles till he dropped dead

Posted by: Rocks at January 11, 2011 05:44 PM (Q1lie)

112 I was drinking while I was paying bills.
Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2011 05:42 PM (VuLos)
Tell us that some of the bills included charges for Valu-Rite purchases and the circle will be complete.

Posted by: Count de Monet (40% evil) who quotes Clark Griswold at January 11, 2011 05:45 PM (XBM1t)

113 They know exactly what they are doing, and it is working.

Posted by: Boris Yeltsin at January 11, 2011 05:45 PM (4sQwu)

114 Twitter, gatewaypundit: OBAMA PHONES SHERIFF DUPNIK – Thanks Him
I acted stupidly.

Posted by: Barack H Obama at January 11, 2011 05:45 PM (94WgM)

115 I heard on multiple stations he was a "Afgan vet". How'd that work out?

Yeah I heard that too on Saturday, then they had to drop it when the Army said hefailed the drug test,but plenty of people who tuned in right away heard the lie that he was a member of the Army served in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Boots at January 11, 2011 05:45 PM (neKzn)

116 Twitter, gatewaypundit: OBAMA PHONES SHERIFF DUPNIK – Thanks Him

Dipstick ought to be scared. Many an elected official has suffered losses as a result of Barry's tender attentions.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 11, 2011 05:45 PM (AZGON)

117 I find it hard to believe that even the state-run Pravda in the Soviet Union was full of such corrupt apparatchiks in the media. Whatever I hear from Katie Couric, Paul Krugman, et cetera, my first inclination is that whatever they are saying is 100% statist propaganda.

Posted by: nohammernosickl at January 11, 2011 05:45 PM (Z/zYN)

118 In a phone call this afternoon with Sheriff Dupnik, according to White House spokesman Nicholas Shapiro, the President “thanked him for his department’s efforts to respond to this incident and coordinate with the FBI and Director Mueller on the investigation.”

Oh Sheriff Dupeshit is coordinating with the WH all right. I'm sure they are coaching him on what to say. This tragedy is going to be exploited as much as possible by Obama. His numbers are in the pooper and he's trying everything to boost them back up. Nothing says "gravitas" and "calm steady hand" like a President applying healing balm to the nation. This is his moment to shine. (I ban myself for that last sentence.)

Posted by: runningrn at January 11, 2011 05:46 PM (ihSHD)

119 The Pima County Sheriff looks like Loughner will at that age. /Drudge juxtaposed

Grandpa. Is that you?

Posted by: Jared at January 11, 2011 05:46 PM (5Rurq)

120 It really is fucking amazing to me that these fucksticks can't seem to figure out that it's not Limbaugh or talk radio or Fox News that is inciting people, it's the unbelievably out of control administration and last Congress we just endured.

Do they really think the anger last summer when they shoved that healthcare disaster down our throats with sleazy back room deals was faked? Do they think the historic wipeout of Dems this last cycle was just an anomaly? Are these fucking people stupid or evil?

And they keep fanning the flames. I'll say it again, the media wants conflict. They live for it.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2011 05:47 PM (TMB3S)

121 Tell us that some of the bills included charges for Valu-Rite purchases and the circle will be complete.

Posted by: Count de Monet (40% evil) who quotes Clark Griswold at January 11, 2011 05:45 PM (XBM1t)
I have that set up as an automatic payment.

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2011 05:47 PM (VuLos)

122 I'm surprised they didn't "accidentally" Pshop a McCain bumper sticker or something onto that image.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at January 11, 2011 05:48 PM (tf9Ne)

123 This is his moment to shine. (I ban myself for that last sentence.)

I see what you did there.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 11, 2011 05:48 PM (AZGON)

124 It really is fucking amazing to me that these fucksticks can't seem to
figure out that it's not Limbaugh or talk radio or Fox News that is
inciting people, it's the unbelievably out of control administration and
last Congress we just endured.


They know it. They.don't.care.

Posted by: toby928™ at January 11, 2011 05:49 PM (S5YRY)

125 What are the political proclivities of the parents? I know our (allegedly) schizophrenic shooter was an independent and probably never voted for mainstream candidates in his life. I'll bet a dollar he voted for Cynthia McKinney in 2008.

I think that Giffords was the closest thing to a Republican that Jared had ever seen in his life.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2011 05:49 PM (T0NGe)

126 It's almost as if they saw the polls saying most people didn't believe them and doubled down.
Those polls show that, in the total absence of any substantiating evidence whatsoever, at least a hundred million Americans believe that "rhetoric"—understood as "stuff people like Palin say"—caused a mass murder.
That's a ripe environment. They're going to push it.
Stop thinking they're not evil, and they don't mean to hurt you. They are, and they will.

Posted by: oblig. at January 11, 2011 05:49 PM (x7Ao8)

127 "Whether [political rhetoric] caused what happened in Tucson or not,
it’ll cause the next tragedy," Rep. Brad Sherman (D-CA) predicts on FOX
News.

Un-friggin-believable.

Posted by: Rocks at January 11, 2011 05:49 PM (Q1lie)

128 Another new narrative: If violent rhetoric didn't cause this shooting, it will cause the next one

~Courtesy of Brad Sherman, Dingbat-CA

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 11, 2011 05:49 PM (EPuYQ)

129 Oh Sheriff Dupeshit is coordinating with the WH all right. I'm sure they are coaching him on what to say.

Perhaps that's why Sheriff Dipshit decided to pin blame on Rush Limbaugh? Obama's been very apt at getting proxies to do the jobs he doesn't want to do himself.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 11, 2011 05:50 PM (c0A3e)

130 As some have mentioned: Pravda had nothing on our media. The USSR had to pay millions and millions to get them to write what they knew wasn't true. Today's MFM are doing it for free.

True believers have no problems letting us all know what the Revolutionary Truth is.

Posted by: Jimmuy at January 11, 2011 05:50 PM (ets+s)

131 "Whether [political rhetoric] caused what happened in Tucson or not,
it’ll cause the next tragedy," Rep. Brad Sherman (D-CA) predicts on FOX
News.

That sounds like a threat.

Posted by: the fire next time at January 11, 2011 05:51 PM (S5YRY)

132 This is the problem with the left, since the rules don't apply to them, and are applied harshly to conservatives, there's no fear. Even if no one believes them, they think they can kick this dead horse until it become a Willie Horton style talking point.

There are no reprecussions for their lying. They think.

Remember the Wellstone Memorial, they need to be punished again. They don't need to recognize they're being punished, but the public needs to punish their bad behavior.

You can't reason with insane people, and liberalism is a pathology. You can only make your case to the people. So, right now, it seems that the only people watching Chris Mattews are conservatives getting upset over it all.

It's not working and soon it will blowback on them.

Posted by: joeindc44 at January 11, 2011 05:51 PM (QxSug)

133 right?

Posted by: joeindc44 at January 11, 2011 05:51 PM (QxSug)

134
At least some good news.....www.kake.com

The Arizona Legislature has approved emergency
legislation to head off picketing by a Topeka church at the
funeral service for a 9-year-old girl who was killed during
Saturday's shooting in Tucson.



Unanimous votes by the House and Senate on Tuesday send the bill
to Gov. Jan Brewer for her expected signature.

The bill prohibiting protests at or near funeral sites would
take effect immediately.

The Westboro Baptist Church said Monday it plans to picket
Thursday's funeral for Christina Taylor Green. She is one of six
people who were killed in the shooting that injured U.S. Rep.
Gabrielle Giffords and 13 others.

The fundamentalist church has picketed military funerals to draw
attention to its view that the deaths are God's punishment for the
nation's tolerance of homosexuality.

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2011 05:52 PM (VuLos)

135 Even if we are completely full of shit this time, we won't be next time, pinky swear.

Posted by: Lefty Douche Nozzle at January 11, 2011 05:52 PM (SJ6/3)

136 From The Arizona Republic:


"Dupnik needs to recall that he is elected to be a lawman. With each
additional comment, the Democratic sheriff of Pima County is revealing
his agenda as partisan, and, as such, every bit as recklessly
antagonistic as the talk-show hosts and politicians he chooses to decry."

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at January 11, 2011 05:52 PM (EPuYQ)

137 Not again...

Posted by: The Chicken at January 11, 2011 05:53 PM (32ubA)

138 but if they can say "Left" or "Liberal" and what people hear is "Rainbows and Unicorns," they've done what they're seeking to do.

Well, hopefully, Loughner will have to settle for brain blows and uniforms (as in orange). I don't think he'd ever see the light of a regular cell with cellmates, but if he did, I'm sure he'd have the crap kicked out of him. I bet money, he ends up in a psychiatric hospital. Like John Hinckley, he'll serve some time, but then be "cured" or cured enough to get out.

Posted by: runningrn at January 11, 2011 05:54 PM (ihSHD)

139 We're bored.

Posted by: that guy that always thinks we're bored at January 11, 2011 05:54 PM (S5YRY)

140 Kay, of WhiteNoiseInsanity(dot)com, hasn't backed off one iota of a deranged cracker. She's got a side-by-side pic matchup of Jared and Beck in a separated-at-birth type thing. Skimming her blog, she really has a hardon for Beck. She's definitely a worm-headed sack of monkey shit.

Posted by: Count de Monet (40% evil) who quotes Clark Griswold at January 11, 2011 05:54 PM (XBM1t)

141 The so-called entertainment media are piling on as well: "Inside Edition," the celebrity tabloid show, is focussing tonight on "Sarah Palin and Tucson," their lead story.

Bastards. Slanderous, libelous, lying bastards. Have they no shame? Have they no decency?

Posted by: Beverly at January 11, 2011 05:55 PM (r+s4o)

142 In the wake of thisafternoon's sharting incident which resulted in the unfortunate loss of 1 pair of Bill Blassboxer-briefs, 1 pair of Calvin Klein Size 26 trousers, and2Gold Tip socks, my Stomache's Rumblings from an impending attack from my breakfast of waffles w/maple syrup, bacon and eggs over-easy, seems almost prescient.

Posted by: Barack H Obama at January 11, 2011 05:55 PM (94WgM)

143 "Obama's Ties To Communist Organizations Unproven"

Like that?

"No Evidence Left of Obama-Emanuel Bathhouse Romps"
"No Immediate Plans For Re-education Camps"

Posted by: t-bird at January 11, 2011 05:56 PM (FcR7P)

144 Posted by: Beverly at January 11, 2011 05:55 PM (r+s4o)

Inside Edition is still on? Really?
(No, really, I didn't realize it was still on the air)

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 11, 2011 05:56 PM (8y9MW)

145 By the way, for the media paying attention, it's "Fred Phelps, Democratic activist and supporter of Al Gore's 1988 presidential campaign."

Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2011 05:56 PM (T0NGe)

146 You just know Barry will milk this like the world's largest swollen udder when he does the SOTU.

Posted by: George Orwell at January 11, 2011 05:56 PM (AZGON)

147
Let me be clear: I've ordered that federal agencies will refer to this investigation as a "Domestic Contingency Operation".

Also,
our new NASA head will make outreach to delusional unhinged loners with
skull-shrines in their backyards his top priority because of their many
important contributions to math and science. Take Ted Kaczinski, for
instance. The guy was a fuckin' math genius. Fuckin'. Math. Genius.

Posted by: The Most High, Exalted Lord and Savior Barrack Husseien Soetoro Mohammed Moses Christ Jingleheimer D at January 11, 2011 05:57 PM (IoUF1)

148 Erg, really. You're not welcome here. Seriously. Stop commenting.

Posted by: just another stupid knucklehead like you at January 11, 2011 05:58 PM (PSPud)

149 I can't wait until the GOP, to include the bad ass Tea Party Reps, call a huge news conference to squelch some of this BS.
Posted by: REALITYREAMER:WAIT at January 11, 2011 05:42 PM (EL+OC)

I hope they don't. It means they aren't even buying into the basic premise. I liked itwhen the repub leadership didn't even mention this and instead said they'd be convening the congress again next week and starting exactly where they left off. Repealing Ocare.

Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2011 05:59 PM (AKOTK)

150 MORE MEME

Posted by: 2 x 4 LEFT at January 11, 2011 05:59 PM (94WgM)

151 Making the "Taxed Enough Already" bumper sticker chrome-colored with chrome-colored lettering was a mistake. I had to stare at the picture for half an hour to even tell it was there.

Posted by: Cerebral Paul Z. at January 11, 2011 05:59 PM (XpM53)

152 Outrage on the part of the right does not have any impact on the Baghdad Bobs in the media. They believe it proves their point. However, laughter, derision, mockery, and scorn bothers them immensely. They still carry the scars from grade school, see. I learned long ago that to scoff at a lefty is more devastating to them than to smack them in the face. (Though, frankly, I'd rather smack.)

Posted by: kathysaysso at January 11, 2011 05:59 PM (LkFvf)

153 The Westboro Baptist Church said Monday it plans to picketThursday's funeral for Christina Taylor Green. She is one of sixpeople who were killed in the shooting that injured U.S. Rep.Gabrielle Giffords and 13 others.
The fundamentalist church has picketed military funerals to drawattention to its view that the deaths are God's punishment for thenation's tolerance of homosexuality.

The Westboro Church is like a cancer on the freedoms of a free Republic. How more loathesome could they be picketing the funeral of a 9 year old girl. Absolutely disgusting. Has there ever been an incident where one of those "church" members been assaulted or harmed? It's funny, but you hear about the violence endemic on the right, but right minded people haven't beaten the crap out of these disgusting attention whores. The left probably loves their protests of military funerals, so they haven't pissed them off yet. It's when the left gets angry that violence ensues. The right gets angry, and you get peaceful protests at town halls and tea party rallies. The left gets pissed and you have people's fingers bitten off and people assaulted.

Posted by: runningrn at January 11, 2011 05:59 PM (ihSHD)

154 "Aaron Mehta is a reporter for the Center for Public Integrity, a
nonprofit, nonpartisan investigative reporting organization in
Washington D.C."

Here let me fix that for yah:

Aaron Mehta is a reporter hack for the Center for Public who has no Integrity, a
nonprofit, nonpartisan partisan far left wing funded investigative reporting organization in
Washington D.C.

There all better now and is truthful!

Posted by: Oldcrow at January 11, 2011 06:00 PM (7/kgE)

155 By the way, for the media paying attention, it's "Fred Phelps, Democratic activist and supporter of Al Gore's 1988 presidential campaign."
Posted by: AmishDude at January 11, 2011 05:56 PM (T0NGe)
Or as the MFM would like you to believe, "Fred Phelps, radical church leader and founder of the Tea Party."

Posted by: ErikW at January 11, 2011 06:00 PM (dHcZk)

156 By the way, for the media paying attention, it's "Fred Phelps, Democratic activist and supporter of Al Gore's 1988 presidential campaign."
Uh...yeah. We're right on that.
*snort*

Posted by: The MSM, More Clever Than You Can Ever Imagine at January 11, 2011 06:00 PM (QKKT0)

157 There is an old black and white picture of Lee Harvey Oswald when he was a Marine eating lunch with another person while stationed in the Philippines.

Do you know who the other person was? John Wayne. Yup, The Duke himself. He was there filming a movie and decided to visit the troops. Can you imagine how batshit crazy the MFM would be about this today? They would have somehow linked John Wayne to the Kennedy assassination.

Posted by: mpfs at January 11, 2011 06:01 PM (iYbLN)

158 What is next? Are they gonna set theReichstag Capital building on fire and blame the tea party?

Posted by: Hous Bin Pharteen at January 11, 2011 06:01 PM (nRF6+)

159 I liked itwhen the repub leadership didn't even mention this and instead said they'd be convening the congress again next week and starting exactly where they left off. Repealing Ocare.
Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2011 05:59 PM (AKOTK)
Which isthe explanation forthe faux outrage of the democrats and the media (but I repeat myself)

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 11, 2011 06:02 PM (yIZJ3)

160 "George Soros is Marxist."

Totally unfair. Soros is a Nazi Collaborator.

Posted by: nostradamus' 401k at January 11, 2011 06:02 PM (S5YRY)

161 Posted by: just another stupid knucklehead like you at January 11, 2011 05:58 PM (PSPud)

It's the shits being on the wrong end of this isn't it, troll.

Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2011 06:02 PM (AKOTK)

162 wabc radio just reported the Congresswoman Giffords is breathing on her own.

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2011 06:02 PM (VuLos)

163 "George Soros is Marxist." Cracks me up every time.

Correction: George Soros was a Nazi sympathizer and collaborator.

FIFY asshole.

Posted by: mpfs at January 11, 2011 06:03 PM (iYbLN)

164 erg feels it slipping away, again.

Posted by: nostradamus' 401k at January 11, 2011 06:04 PM (S5YRY)

165 #160

We think alike.

Posted by: mpfs at January 11, 2011 06:04 PM (iYbLN)

166 January 11, 2011 05:58 PM (PSPud)

Dropped his juicebox.

Puspud?

Posted by: George Orwell at January 11, 2011 06:04 PM (AZGON)

167 Speaking of a toxic environment - has anyone discussed the nut who shot up Congress in the mid 2000s?

Was he egged on by Moveon? Kos? I don't really recall anyone looking into his political background actually. Now, what reason might that be - except for the fact the President and Congress were controlled by Republicans?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 11, 2011 06:04 PM (7BU4a)

168 This will end badly for the good sheriff. he must be bucking for a federal job, maybe at Homeland Security.

I'm really not interested in coming together with these assholes. I wish they would just leave me alone.

Posted by: dr kill at January 11, 2011 06:05 PM (le5qc)

169 @148
Run along......Go play in the Street!

Posted by: Jimi at January 11, 2011 06:06 PM (SLttp)

170 What is next? Are they gonna set theReichstag Capital building on fire and blame the tea party?
Posted by: Hous Bin Pharteen at January 11, 2011 06:01 PM (nRF6+)

Don't rule it out. This latest episode of leftard derangment indicates that they'll eventually stop at nothing to stay in power.

Posted by: Soona at January 11, 2011 06:06 PM (AKOTK)

171 A little off topic, but...I know the kid got beat up a little during his arrest but that mugshotscreams some serious meth use.

Posted by: Garfish at January 11, 2011 06:08 PM (AQ/nh)

172 @170
Now they come for the Ammunition....Next is the Guns!

Posted by: Jimi at January 11, 2011 06:09 PM (SLttp)

173 125 amish dude If I recall he registered as indep. but didnt even vote the last time according to a report I read.

Posted by: Hous Bin Pharteen at January 11, 2011 06:10 PM (nRF6+)

174 too bad the rules don't apply to dems and their protectors in the MSM, cause I am pretty sure we've gone beyond the actual malice threshold for palin...well for everyone who disagrees with them.

Posted by: joeindc44 at January 11, 2011 06:10 PM (QxSug)

175 So much for 'no more fucking in the main posts', but understandable.

What I truly don't get is what the payoff is for these "journalists". Is civil war going to sell more fucking newspapers or something? Cuz this seems to be what they are pushing.

We don't need no steenkin' facts.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 11, 2011 06:13 PM (h0RtZ)

176 The second reason for this eagerness to blame the Tea Party Right is
because many Leftists have, without reason, believed from the beginning that
those on the Right are irrational bigots inclined to anarchist violence.

Projection. The left consistently calls for political violence that they have been, so far, too cowardly to enact.

So since they consider conservatives to be evil, we must therefore be plotting far worse violence, planning it against real (liberal) people, and actually doing it.


Posted by: 18-1 at January 11, 2011 06:13 PM (7BU4a)

177 Posted by: just another stupid knucklehead like you

Really? You are playing BOTH the "Democrats don't have political agendas" and "RAAAAACIST!" cards at the same time?

I guess it's more efficient anyway.

Was that all you wanted to say, or were you going to spew more inconsequential garbage at this thread?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 11, 2011 06:13 PM (8y9MW)

178 projection
absence of counterargument
reacting to their prejudices

just pathological.

Posted by: joeindc44 at January 11, 2011 06:14 PM (QxSug)

179 I wonder how the meeting went when someone at Newsweek said, "Let's go with this article written by a Soros front group."
"Are you nuts? We're a news organization."
Or...
"Hey, good idea!"

Posted by: rdbrewer at January 11, 2011 06:18 PM (TPgM8)

180 I never knew people of conservatives values like Palin were meth heads too! I must have missed her TV shows endorsing maryjane as legal medicine. Who do I remember was a coke head, since was cured, I think.

Posted by: Hous Bin Pharteen at January 11, 2011 06:19 PM (nRF6+)

181 The science is settled, Loughner is a racist teabagger.

What? Why are you getting angry and using extreme language?

Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2011 06:21 PM (TMB3S)

182 The media are vermin.

Posted by: VADM (Red) Cuthbert Collingwood RN at January 11, 2011 06:22 PM (UL/HQ)

183 Drudge Headline sez 'Pistol Sales Surge After AZ Shooting'

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 11, 2011 06:27 PM (h0RtZ)

184 MAybe Palin should just put out a statement, easily digestible, every element of the story as reported is a lie.

Posted by: joeindc44 at January 11, 2011 06:27 PM (QxSug)

185 Arizona Gunman's Family Breaks Silence:

Family of Jared Loughner releases statement saying they 'don't understand why
this happened' but feel sympathy for victims and their families.


Scheeyeah, right you don't understand why this happened.

Posted by: Tami at January 11, 2011 06:29 PM (VuLos)

186 Liberals are getting a giant case of blue balls so bad that it hurts.

The next president of the United States (Sarah Palin) should revoke the press credentials of all the major news organizations perpetrating this fraud and go straight with New Media.

Posted by: Holger at January 11, 2011 06:34 PM (YxGud)

187
I like that. The Won SPADES-OF: ACE is a good Muslim and likes to blow goats in private.

Go ahead, prove me wrong.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at January 11, 2011 06:36 PM (1hM1d)

188 It's counterproductive to go on at great length about how the lie.
They are liars. It's obvious. Case closed.
What we should be saying is more straightforward:
1. The shooter is a nut
2. He's a left-wing nut, not a right-wing nut.
3. All of the blah blah that attempts to tie him to conservative people or speech has been proven to be lies.
4. The person responsible for anger in this country is Barack Obama. It's his MO. Here are 17 examples of how he does it and how he covers his tracks....
5. The people who lie about this are the lowest of the low to twist this human tragedy for their political gain. And they do it gleefully.
6. Conservatives never do it.
7. This situation isn't complicated. Every reader knows the truth. If you are liberal, think about the actions of the people who speak for you. If they care so little about the lives of the 6 people who died or Sarah Palin, how do you think they feel about YOUR life.

Posted by: proreason at January 11, 2011 06:38 PM (+8dSJ)

189 make a move scumbags. and like the tide carolyn mccarthy rolls out with here whiny anti gun screed when the bodies are still warm. fuck you too.

Posted by: evil libertarian at January 11, 2011 06:38 PM (HfvA9)

190 I want to be careful here: I'm not saying that Chris Matthews' descent into insanity is brought about by syphilis.
It may just be one of many contributing factors.

Posted by: Warden at January 11, 2011 06:46 PM (HzhBE)

191 Bad thing happens:
Conservative Thought Process
1) Wow, this is terrible. 2)I hope not too many people got hurt. 3) I hope they catch the asshat that did this. 4) What a bummer. 5) I sure hope this was some lone nut and not an organized thing. 6) What the hell did thatliberals just say.....?
Liberal Thought Process
1) This is terrible. 2) I bet it was those nasty right wingers. 3) We need more gun control! 4) Maybe we can BLAME Sarah Palin? 5) Maybe we can shut up conservatives? 6) It was Rush Limbaugh's fault.....

Posted by: Alaskan caribou at January 11, 2011 06:51 PM (1vG6v)

192 Hello, morons, you missed a monster thread where this lefty "journalist" blames Fox News for Jared's heinous acts, yet fails to mention anywhere in the article when or how the perp watched Fox News. I thought it rather odd how a pothead, atheist, flag-burning psychotic who worships skulls in his backyard might be inclined to set his alarm to watch Bill O'Reilly.


http://tinyurl.com/5sybt4z

Posted by: SaskMike at January 11, 2011 06:53 PM (dZW6Y)

193 Let me be Clear......Even though Chrissy loves me his decent into insanity was not brought about by syphilis, but my advisors thought maybe it was one of many contributing factors.

Posted by: President JugEars at January 11, 2011 06:53 PM (fqxV7)

194 12
From now on any article related to anyone in the media should have a headline followed up with a non-sequitur.

"Paul Krugman may be a nobel prize winner, but there sure are a lot of pedophiles who have beards."


Posted by: John J at January 11, 2011 05:16 PM (mx7p/)

I support this ONE HUNDRED PERCENT.

Posted by: MWR at January 11, 2011 06:55 PM (CA2NO)

195 The fine fellows (/semi-snark) over at HA mentioned (about the Newsweek article specifically) that it runs for 20 paragraphs, and the stuff about "not the sole driving factor..." doesn't come until paragraph 19.

This is part of the tactic as well. The well written part is the first 3 - 5 paragraphs, then they get as boring as possible to encourage you to think "I know what they're saying" and skip on to the next article. That way, they can say "we said it was only speculation" with a relatively low chance that a reader actually got to that part.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 11, 2011 06:57 PM (8y9MW)

196 The name Aaron Mehta sounds familiar; I think he's been caught peddling bullshit before. Anyone have any more information?

Posted by: Rob Crawford at January 11, 2011 06:58 PM (0onAO)

197 29
I'm seriously kicking around the concept of a class action by those who
self-identify as members of the Tea Party for libel and defamation.
Hell, Rush commented today that he couldn't sue because he's a public
figure. I think that much of the media is standing right on the line
even for public figures.


Posted by: alexthechick at January 11, 2011 05:21 PM (bQ5xy)
This has been on the tip of my tongue for the longest time, because dammit, I'm sick of the slurs directed at me and my fellows because we self-identify as Tea Partiers. LIBEL ALL OVER YO ASSES, Lefty bitches!*cough*

Posted by: MWR at January 11, 2011 06:58 PM (CA2NO)

198 Paul Krugman may be a Nobel Prize winner, but other Pedophiles with Beards claim he is a Communist.

Posted by: Dakota at January 11, 2011 06:59 PM (fqxV7)

199 As I said earlier, calling them the MFM falls short. The media has
outgrown and pushed way out past m*th*r f^ck*r territory. A new label
is needed.

At the risk of cranking the rhetoric up to 47 (on a scale of 1-10), how about "Reichstag Media"?

Posted by: Rob Crawford at January 11, 2011 06:59 PM (0onAO)

200 As I said earlier, calling them the MFM falls short. The media has
outgrown and pushed way out past m*th*r f^ck*r territory. A new label
is needed.

At the risk of cranking the rhetoric up to 47 (on a scale of 1-10), how about "Reichstag Media"?



Posted by: Rob Crawford at January 11, 2011 06:59 PM (0onAO)
Just call them the enemy. We don't need cute slogans.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 11, 2011 07:01 PM (z1N6a)

201 @199
How about "GIM" - Goebells Inspired Media
or
How about "MSM" - Modern Soviet Media
or
How about "AAM" - Anit-American Media

Posted by: Dakota at January 11, 2011 07:03 PM (fqxV7)

202 "Paul Krugman may be a nobel prize winner, but there sure are a lot of pedophiles who have beards."

The media may be a collective institution of like-minded individuals with few dissenting voices, but then so was Jonestown.

Posted by: MWR at January 11, 2011 07:07 PM (CA2NO)

203 16 This is the new technique. Don't explicitly connect the dots, just put the dots an inch apart and let the viewer connect them. [...]
Posted by: JackStraw at January 11, 2011 05:17 PM (TMB3S) I would note that Michael Moore has been doing exactly this for many years.

Posted by: Herr Blücher at January 11, 2011 07:14 PM (RgrlZ)

204 Ace, that's lying by INNUENDO:

From Wikipedia:
An innuendo is a baseless invention of thoughts or ideas. It can also be a remark or question, typically disparaging (also called insinuation), that works obliquely by allusion.
In the latter sense, the intention is often to insult or accuse someone
in such a way that one's words, taken literally, are innocent.

(heh, there's a joke abouT that --- no, in YOU endo)

Posted by: jakee308 at January 11, 2011 07:19 PM (fhTf7)

205 Keep it short:

The Big Lie Infotainment
The Big Lie Media

Posted by: jakee308 at January 11, 2011 07:24 PM (fhTf7)

206 You know who else has been listening to the right-wing hate-rhetoric? These folks.

Clearly, they are expressing their frustration at the loss of the mid-term elections and have assembled the best and brightest amongst them to define their strategy and plan their counter-attack to the culture of hate permeating from the tea-party movement.

Posted by: jmflynny at January 11, 2011 07:29 PM (piMMO)

207 @33 Jeff B. "Hey, want to know what's really funny? This shit finally has me supporting Sarah Palin! Never thought it would happen!"
Yeah, me too.

Posted by: Bitsko at January 11, 2011 07:50 PM (8/KZN)

208 Another lie in the article is that Aaron Mehta is a reporter. He isn't, he's a propagandist. Just another Soros paid shill.

Posted by: Pat in Colorado at January 11, 2011 08:10 PM (3fl3L)

209 George "Don't Think of an Elephant" Lakoff (he of the genius political argument tactic of "framing," i.e., calling shit by different names) is now out-and-out calling it a "tea party murder."

Posted by: Alex at January 11, 2011 08:19 PM (/yzYn)

210 I shall not be rendering a decision on this matter until I hear from Rosie O'Donnell.

Posted by: John the Libertarian at January 11, 2011 08:21 PM (KyVYG)

211 The MSM is now a criminal leftist group no ifs ands or buts

Posted by: bobbymike at January 11, 2011 08:30 PM (TpGmG)

212 Did someone say political pornography?

The one ___ I learned ___ week, was you cannot ____ a liberal by ________ them in the ___. It appears _______ is in ____.

Excuse me while I go slap myself.

Posted by: evil me at January 11, 2011 08:53 PM (jchJh)

213 Pardon me if someone already mentioned this, but wouldn't it have been totally awesome if the car that sits in the driveway of the shooter's house had an Obama bumper sticker on it.
I would have just shit myself laughing. Oh well. Some things just aren't meant to be.

Posted by: Jaimo at January 11, 2011 09:08 PM (7DVLt)

214 Jaimo at January 11, 2011 09:08 PM (7DVLt)

Someone. Must. Shoop.

Posted by: John the Libertarian at January 11, 2011 09:13 PM (KyVYG)

215 This is dead on. What is the MSM business model? It is to sell crap to stupid people. But how do you sort out the stupid people? Well, you provide batcrap to the moonbats. Normal, intelligent people will stop tuning in. Which is fine, they don't buy the junk being advertised. So now you have a selected audience. Create a world view for them where they are SMART, and so much more moral than those ignorant redneck inbred bible 'n gun totin' rightwingers. Feed that worldview. So they keep tuning in. And then sell them stuff. Let them max out their credit cards, get home equity loans, and buy buy buy more useless crap.

And it works.

Posted by: SunSword at January 11, 2011 09:26 PM (6IUbo)

216 Nice going, You have just realised something that every right wing pundit, and commentator from fox, and more have been doing for years. beck does this so often its a standing joke. but don't let that stop you with your new discovery.

Posted by: aaa at January 11, 2011 11:13 PM (iNbG0)

217 aaa is such a genius!

Posted by: Hand Me Another Spliff at January 12, 2011 12:41 AM (9b6FB)

218 I don't seem to recall any "right wing pundit, and commentator from fox, and more" implying the entire left wing is to blame for the actions of a solitary deranged loon.

But why let silly little things like facts get in the way of a perfectly good talking point, eh?

Posted by: Palefire at January 12, 2011 12:51 AM (FGZVZ)

219 The left simply do not care about facts or truth. It doesn't enter into their thinking. Facts aren't relevant to them, which is why they never goddamn learn.

You can lay the facts, like the long history of left-wing hate, incitement, and actual violence, and they just blink and say it's all the right's fault. Because they don't care about the facts.

Someone explain to me how that's not pathological behavior.

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Posted by: PHP at January 12, 2011 01:28 AM (m7V9o)

221 Loughner is less insane than MSM, ponder this when a lone deranged gunman kills, his pebble into the pond of society, ripples distortions from a flatsom of leftist antagonism to piss off the average Joe's with lies and mass distortion. Joe says these leftist need there meds, there words of hate will inspire us only vote in greater numbers to rid us of the vines of poison.

We need to say enough of lies.

We disagree with your thoughts.

Sherriff miss the episode, "...just the facts...".

Posted by: Laughingmyasoff at January 12, 2011 04:53 AM (cmBZs)

222 Brilliant stuff, Ace.

Posted by: Gem at January 12, 2011 07:19 AM (zw+pb)

223
You report this like its a new phenomenon. Hardly.

Lee Harvey blew off JFK's head. He did it all alone. There is no evidence-based factual dispute about that.

But, Lee Harvey was inconveniently about as lefty as they came. Marxist Commie. Soviet Union. Fair Play for Cuba, etc. The left could not reconcile those facts with the narrative they desperately wanted to be true. They needed JFK to be killed by right wing hate.

SO THEY CHANGED THE FACTS.

With that, we've been served 47 years of grassy knolls, three tramps, Oliver Stone, triangulated fire, back-and-to-the-left, Jack Ruby as CIA ninja, and a load of other factual groundless baloney all intended to change the fact that JFK got blown away by a little psycho commie acting alone; a proto Bill Ayers.

What comes next with the Tucson shooting will be to make Loughner a "patsy".

Posted by: A. Hidell at January 12, 2011 07:22 AM (u+8qs)

224
A some what off-point question.

If Loughner could not get in the Army because of his past drug use, could Barack?


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Posted by: addjian13 at January 12, 2011 09:38 AM (pzkXl)

226 MSNBC get to the truth as only they can.

Posted by: BKeyser at January 12, 2011 10:30 AM (hVSLB)

227 Bad link, sorry.

Maybe this one?

Posted by: BKeyser at January 12, 2011 10:31 AM (hVSLB)

228 What's weird is this article does all the same things it accuses the "media" of doing. It's huff and puff and no facts. Hey, why'd that guy shoot a Democrat, anyway? Oh, yeah, he's a "leftist." Huh?
He's "Peace-nic" with an automatic handgun out to kill all the Democrats who are doing to this country what Glen Beck claims they are doing... because he's liberal? Frankly, this article is plain kookie.
Wehave Arizona Senate candidates telling Americans that they'll have to resort to "2nd Ammendment" solutions if they lose this election and one of them did... in Arizona even; and you still won't face the truth that your leadership is responsible for the consequencestheir violent rhetoric.
Actually, I think you do know the truth; you just don't love America or democracy orfreedom. You love power and money. Websiteopinions like the ones in this foolish article are bought and paid for by those whom are served in misleading the people. I hope Democrats win the next election after America gets another taste of the destructive results of Republican leadership in the House.

Posted by: Russ Martocci at January 12, 2011 12:43 PM (wM6ud)

229 Heh. Russ Martocci. "Scum or racist."

This fool Loughner was a nutjob long before we'd even heard of Beck and when Palin was gov of Alaska known mostly only to Alaskans. What is, in fact, "no fact" is that there is any evidence that he was motivated by anything other than his delusional, psycho mind. Go away and spout your shit somewhere else.

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Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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