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Jonathan Alter Is Pretty Excited About How Obama Can Profit From AZ Shooting

Underlying subtext...Imagine how awesome it would have been for Obama if only Giffords had died!

President Obama is off to a good start in his handling of what the networks are now calling “The Tragedy in Tucson.” The moment of silence he asked for on Monday at 11 a.m.—resonant for older Americans of the exact hour on November 11 each year that the World War I Armistice was once observed—is an appropriate expression of what we need right now: Less Noise.

But silence will not be enough. This horrific event offers the president a chance to show leadership qualities that he’s inexplicably hidden away in some blind trust. The shootings and the resulting debate over the climate of incivility play to his strengths as a calm and rational leader. Just as Bill Clinton’s response to the 1995 Oklahoma City bombings helped him recover from his defeat in the 1994 midterms, so this episode may help Obama change—at least in the short term--the trajectory of American politics.

..Whether or not he attends the funerals for the Tucson victims, Obama’s big chance to lead will come in his State of the Union address on January 25. He can both to speak to the moment thematically and confront the substantive concerns raised by the tragedy.

Conservatives like to argue that these are isolated incidents carried out by lunatics and therefore carry no big lessons (unless the perpetrator is Muslim, in which case it’s terrorism); liberals view them as opportunities to address various social ills. Obama is in the latter category and should act accordingly. “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste,” Rahm Emanuel famously said in 2008. The same goes for a shooting spree that gravely wounds a beloved congresswoman. Congress won’t enact gun control, as it did in the wake of the assassinations of Martin Luther King and Robert F. Kennedy in 1968, but perhaps something positive can come from this.

Yeah, those stupid conservatives, trying to draw bigger lessons from the actions connected to and motivated by the world wide movement we are at war with. Apparently we need to learn from individual crackpots whose anger toward their target predates the emergence of the individual and groups liberals blame.

Don't forget, this is exactly the kind of thing some liberals were saying Obama was going to need to rebound politically.

It's all so ghoulish and dishonest.

Here's my modest proposal, if conservatives are responsible for the attack on Giffords then from this moment forward I am blaming liberals and every elected Democrat for every sexual attack in this country. When conservatives say we want to tone down the hyper-sexualization of society, especially children, we are called prudes who want to legislate what happens in people's bedrooms. Well, Democrats by your own logic you know own responsibility for every rape and sex crime in this country.

Added: Aside from the death and injuries, the worst part of this story is how the left is dragging the right into their swamp mentality. All over righty blogs on Saturday the first reactions I was were calls for prayer and support for the victims. On the left it was to blame the right.

Since Saturday the constant fact free frenzy has only gotten worse. In a better world, we'd recognize this attack for what it is but because the left immediate politicized it with a wanton disregard for the truth, here we are having to fight back in the nastiest ways imaginable.

In my defense I'll quote Sarah Palin Barack Obama on how to properly conduct a political fight, “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,”

Posted by: DrewM. at 11:54 AM




Comments

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1 Lefty Democrat murders Republican Judge, child. Conservative Democrat and others wounded.

Posted by: my headline and I'm sticking to it at January 10, 2011 11:56 AM (S5YRY)

2 Newsweek? Is that a real magazine?

Posted by: Navin R Johnson at January 10, 2011 11:56 AM (HpT9p)

3 The left is desperately seeking their "Reichstag" moment.

Posted by: John at January 10, 2011 11:56 AM (qsaJ5)

4 Janathan Alter does not realize the the reason the Obame "hides away his leadership qualities in a blind trust" is because he has absolutely none.

Posted by: Have Blue at January 10, 2011 11:58 AM (mV+es)

5 This horrific event offers the president a chance to show leadership
qualities that he’s inexplicably hidden away in some blind trust.

They're actually only your blind faith, Jonathan.

Posted by: nickless at January 10, 2011 11:59 AM (MMC8r)

6 bwahahah!

From Gateway Pundit:

The far left representative who wants to restrict threatening language has a photo of himself wearing boxing gloves on his website.
It’s the first picture you see.

Posted by: Filly at January 10, 2011 11:59 AM (t+B38)

7 What a Tool.

Posted by: dogfish at January 10, 2011 12:01 PM (6qPsd)

8 Is it clear now why I view the Left as subhuman? People have died because one of THEIRS went off the rails (again), and the only response they're capable of is to try to use the tragedy as a Stalinist cudgel against dissent over their utopian plans.

They're pure fucking evil.

Posted by: VJay at January 10, 2011 12:01 PM (gQ+XA)

9 So... Obama's been sucking air for the past two years because... he's been saving it all up for the right moment, and the right moment is a schitzo opening fire?

Really.

Posted by: Filly at January 10, 2011 12:01 PM (t+B38)

10 liberals view them as opportunities to address various social ills.

Social ills like their political opposition.

Boy, this shows just how depraved Newsweek has become.

Posted by: nickless at January 10, 2011 12:01 PM (MMC8r)

11 Alter: "The shootings and the resulting debate over the climate of incivility play to his strengths as a calm and rational leader..."

How'd that "acting stupidly" leadership work out for Obama?

Alter is a buffoon. He's as bankrupt as his employer.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 10, 2011 12:02 PM (swuwV)

12 Posted by: Filly at January 10, 2011 12:01 PM (t+B3

You just went right over their heads.

Posted by: dogfish at January 10, 2011 12:02 PM (6qPsd)

13 Had to ask my parents which Representitve gets more threats on a regular basis: Giffords or Bachman.
Or as to the, This is all FOX's fault meme, whether anyone can find a single mention of Giffords on FOX that matches in any way any of the dozens and dozens of vile attacks against Bachman on MSNBC.

Posted by: Have Blue at January 10, 2011 12:03 PM (mV+es)

14 "gholish"? Is that Yiddish - ?

Posted by: JEANNIE - MT at January 10, 2011 12:03 PM (GdalM)

15 I think it takes blind trust - or maybe blind faith - to believe Obama has anything approaching "leadership qualities".

Posted by: rabidsquirrel at January 10, 2011 12:03 PM (RuF8n)

16 And there’s a huge contrast in the media. Listen to Rachel Maddow or Keith Olbermann, and you’ll hear a lot of caustic remarks and mockery aimed at Republicans. But you won’t hear jokes about shooting government officials or beheading a journalist at The Washington Post. Listen to Glenn Beck or Bill O’Reilly, and you will.

I don’t listen to any of these folks regularly, but “shooting government officials or beheading a journalist” ?

This is Jayson Blair territory.
I demand that Krugman give citations.
I bet he has never watched them, just got second-hand BS from his friends.
I suggest new friends.

Posted by: Barney Frank at January 10, 2011 12:03 PM (tvs2p)

17 And now you know why the MFM skanks wishcasted this Loughner loon to be a tea party member.

They will stop at nothing to retain power.

If I were Palin I would sue every single one of them into oblivion.

Posted by: Rickshaw Jack at January 10, 2011 12:03 PM (KlAWi)

18 he’s inexplicably hidden away in some blind trust
Occam's Razor weeps.

Posted by: Mama AJ at January 10, 2011 12:03 PM (XdlcF)

19 I'll buy that for a dollar.

Posted by: Sidney Harmon at January 10, 2011 12:04 PM (S5YRY)

20 from thechollajumps.wordpress:

Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office
with 22 comments

29 Votes

This is the report that Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik has been dreading since the tragic event on Saturday January 8.

The sheriff has been editorializing and politicizing the event since he took the podium to report on the incident. His blaming of radio personalities and bloggers is a pre-emptive strike because Mr. Dupnik knows this tragedy lays at his feet and his office. Six people died on his watch and he could have prevented it. He needs to step up and start apologizing to the families of the victims instead of spinning this event to serve his own political agenda.

Jared Loughner, pronounced by the Sheriff as Lock-ner, saying it was the Polish pronunciation. Of course he meant Scott or Irish but that isn’t the point. The point is he and his office have had previous contact with the alleged assailant in the past and that is how he knows how to pronounce the name.

Jared Loughner has been making death threats by phone to many people in Pima County including staff of Pima Community College, radio personalities and local bloggers. When Pima County Sheriff’s Office was informed, his deputies assured the victims that he was being well managed by the mental health system. It was also suggested that further pressing of charges would be unnecessary and probably cause more problems than it solved as Jared Loughner has a family member that works for Pima County. Amy Loughner is a Natural Resource specialist for the Pima County Parks and Recreation. My sympathies and my heart goes out to her and the rest of Mr. Loughner’s family. This tragedy must be tearing them up inside wondering if they had done the right things in trying to manage Jared’s obvious mental instability.

Every victim of his threats previously must also be wondering if this tragedy could have been prevented if they had been more aggressive in pursuing charges against Mr. Loughner. Perhaps with a felony conviction he would never have been able to lawfully by the Glock 9mm Model 19 that he used to strike down the lives of six people and decimate 14 more.

This was not an act of politics. This was an act of a mentally disturbed young man hell bent on getting his 15 minutes of infamy. The Pima County Sheriff’s Department was aware of his violent nature and they failed to act appropriately. This tragedy leads right back to Sherriff Dupnik and all the spin in the world is not going to change that fact.

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 10, 2011 12:04 PM (eOXTH)

21 Listen to Rachel Maddow or Keith Olbermann, and you’ll hear a lot of caustic remarks and mockery aimed at Republicans.

You tell 'em (hic!)!

Posted by: Randi Rhodes at January 10, 2011 12:05 PM (MMC8r)

22 Thanks to the MFM and the libtards, we constantly (as a nation) lose focus on who the real enemy is.

This country won't wake up until Islamo-fascists plant a nuke in DC and declare unequivocally that they were responsible for it..

And even then, I suspect the MFM will attempt to paint it as right-wing malitia's trying the frame the poor peace-loving Muslims.

Until then, Sarah Palin and all other conservatives are the enemy.. And if and when Barry gets his "serious crisis", we will no doubt find him sucking his thumb in the bunker 20 floors below the White House.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 10, 2011 12:05 PM (f9c2L)

23 I hope Sarah Palin has really, really great security.

Tell me, please, how the left would spin anything happening to her or her family?

God protect the Palins.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 10, 2011 12:06 PM (UOM48)

24 Get used to it, at least for another week before the story goes wobbly on the MFM. They're loading the teleprompter as we speak. Dear Leader? Probably clueless.

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2011 12:06 PM (B1tDt)

25 Posted by: Randi Rhodes

I'd hit it.

Posted by: The sidewalk at January 10, 2011 12:06 PM (S5YRY)

26 Rush is on.

Posted by: Filly at January 10, 2011 12:07 PM (t+B38)

27 This was not an act of politics. This was an act of a
mentally disturbed young man hell bent on getting his 15 minutes of
infamy. The Pima County Sheriff�s Department was aware of his violent
nature and they failed to act appropriately. This tragedy leads right
back to Sherriff Dupnik and all the spin in the world is not going to
change that fact.

Posted by: phoenixgirl
-----
Holy crap! I wonder if these facts will ever be seen on national media?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 10, 2011 12:08 PM (f9c2L)

28 Rush on now.

Posted by: jewells45 at January 10, 2011 12:08 PM (l/N7H)

29 Whoops! Barack Obama, Saul Alinsky, Fidel Castro, Che Guevara, Huo Chavez, Noam Chomsky, Mao Tse-tung, Joseph Stalin, and Yassir Arafat. [rdbrewer]
This is in the sidebar, but I can't find any evidence at the links.
Seems iffy, and maybe a big WHOOPs for the site. I would hold off on it.

Posted by: CJ at January 10, 2011 12:08 PM (9KqcB)

30 I must be an idiot. I am suprised by what the media is doing.
I know I shouldn't be, but I still can't fucking believe the continual loop of "Palin and the Tea Party" did it.

Posted by: Ben at January 10, 2011 12:08 PM (wuv1c)

31 Well, Democrats by your own logic you know own responsibility for every rape and sex crime in this country.




Wanna go up to my hotel room and talk about it?

Posted by: Bill Clinton at January 10, 2011 12:09 PM (7BU4a)

32 Peaceful Shooter A Victim of Tea Party Climate of Hate

Posted by: The best the MFM can do at January 10, 2011 12:09 PM (FcR7P)

33 Rush is on.
At 10:00 am on a week day?
The deuce, you say!

Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2011 12:10 PM (3iKLS)

34 Jared Loughner has been making death threats by phone to many people in
Pima County including staff of Pima Community College, radio
personalities and local bloggers.

holy shit

Posted by: Filly at January 10, 2011 12:10 PM (t+B38)

35 The same goes for a shooting spree that gravely wounds a beloved congresswoman.

I'm sure i'll be lambasted as a cold hearted conservative for saying this, but beloved? Did anyone outside her district know about her before this? Does anyone think of their representative, no matter how much they like them, as beloved? Somehow i doubt it.

Posted by: booger at January 10, 2011 12:10 PM (9RFH1)

36 I hope Sarah Palin has really, really great security.Tell me, please, how the left would spin anything happening to her or her family? God protect the Palins.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 10, 2011 12:06 PM (UOM4

If anything happened to Sarah Palin or her family (God forbid) the MFM would blame in on Sarah Palin and the Tea Party

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 10, 2011 12:10 PM (1Jaio)

37 Alter is despicable

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2011 12:10 PM (0GFWk)

38 Jane D'oh: "I hope Sarah Palin has really, really great security."
This. She absolutely must increase her buffers.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 10, 2011 12:11 PM (swuwV)

39
Rush is on.


At 10:00 am on a week day?

Or, even, noon on a weekday!

Posted by: Filly at January 10, 2011 12:11 PM (t+B38)

40 Tell me, please, how the left would spin anything happening to her or her family?

Tea Party activists, disgruntled because of Palin's failure to deliver the Senate during the last election...

Posted by: MFM at January 10, 2011 12:11 PM (QgmBR)

41 Or, even, noon on a weekday!
My snark is set to MST.

Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2011 12:12 PM (3iKLS)

42 Nothing bad ever happens on the golf course. You should all think about that.

Posted by: Obama, A Reader For Our Times at January 10, 2011 12:12 PM (FcR7P)

43 I know I shouldn't be, but I still can't fucking believe the continual loop of "Palin and the Tea Party" did it.

Posted by: Ben at January 10, 2011 12:08 PM (wuv1c)
Well, they turned a commie flying a plane into an IRS building into an issue of "rightwing violence" too...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 10, 2011 12:12 PM (7BU4a)

44 Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 10, 2011 12:04 PM (eOXTH)
All that is needed, for Evil to triumph, is for good Men to do nothing...
Edmund Burke?

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2011 12:13 PM (AdK6a)

45
You heard it here first on Saturday.

Giffords is the Left's Rachel Corrie.

Posted by: Soothsayer News Service at January 10, 2011 12:13 PM (uFokq)

46
Seems iffy, and maybe a big WHOOPs for the site. I would hold off on it.

-------------------------


Yeah, this could be disinformation. I think we're going to see a lot of that.

Posted by: schizuki at January 10, 2011 12:15 PM (M+lbD)

47 This horrific fortuitous event offers the president a chance to show leadership qualities styrofoam Greek columns that he’s inexplicably hidden away in some blind trust shed.

Posted by: t-bird at January 10, 2011 12:16 PM (FcR7P)

48 Seems iffy, and maybe a big WHOOPs for the site. I would hold off on it.

Posted by: CJ at January 10, 2011 12:08 PM

Follow the link, and what you find is that someone put this in their comments, citing a Facebook page which may or may not be genuine (it misspells Loughner's name).

Not trustworthy at all, IMO, and prime ammunition for a rebuttal by anyone who wants to spout conspiracy theories or assess blame where it doesn't belong.

Posted by: MrScribbler© at January 10, 2011 12:17 PM (Ulu3i)

49 As Loughner and Tierney grew closer, Tierney got used to spending the
first ten minutes or so of every day together arguing with Loughner's
"nihilist" view of the world. "By the time he was 19 or 20, he was
really fascinated with semantics and how the world is really
nothing—illusion,"
Wow - he is a lefty....

Posted by: 18-1 at January 10, 2011 12:17 PM (7BU4a)

50 Posted by: Ben at January 10, 2011 12:08 PM (wuv1c)

The most amazing thing is watching the divergence of the reporting on 'motive' from the continued harping on Palin and the tea party.

"The Reality Based Community" is simply ignoring what their own guys are reporting.

Meh, never let a crisis go to waste.

Posted by: DrewM. at January 10, 2011 12:17 PM (HicGG)

51 The mystical Armistice Day significance of that 11 AM moment of silence cannot be overstated. The fact that it's 9 AM in Tucson, the time opening businesses always choose for their moments of silence, is mere coincidence. Obama + staff = genius!

Posted by: comatus at January 10, 2011 12:17 PM (hrwMe)

52 I refuse to legitimize their argument by engaging in the they-do-it-too equivalence game. Political figures and supporters using military symbolism, metaphors, and analogies do not cause sane and rational people to commit acts of violence such as was done on Saturday. Period. End-o-discussion as far as I am concerned.

Posted by: steve at January 10, 2011 12:17 PM (UPLmD)

53 Prediction of New MSM/Administration spin.
He was clearly nuts. Therefore we need more Government oversite of the internet, and more Federal Programs to monitor these type of people..
Oh, and to continue down the Obamacare road so he would have the Health insurance needed to get the help he needed (because he was only 22, and could stay on his Mom's insurance and thus get treated).
Oh, and Psych evals for anyone who wishes to purchase a Gun.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2011 12:18 PM (AdK6a)

54 You heard it here first on Saturday.



Giffords is the Left's Rachel Corrie.

Posted by: Soothsayer News Service at January 10, 2011 12:13 PM (uFokq)
I think its going to fall flat.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 10, 2011 12:18 PM (7BU4a)

55 @20
I had been wondering why Pima Co. S.O. had not been trying to get an involuntary committal on this lunatic. If the families of the murdered and the survival victims can get a person or two previously threatened by Loughner to confirm that they had been told not to file charges, Pima County is going to have a huge wrongful-death case on their hands.
I can't even imagine givinga co-worker'srelative a pass for that kind of criminal behavior. If true, Sheriff Dupnik is even more morally corrupt than I suspected.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at January 10, 2011 12:18 PM (/pLmm)

56 Giffords is the Left's Rachel Corrie.
Posted by: Soothsayer News Service at January 10, 2011 12:13 PM (uFokq)

Nah, first of all she is not a wild radical progressive. She is alive. And the left will mover on soon enough when it becomes obvious even to their dumb asses this was not political.

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2011 12:18 PM (0GFWk)

57 This horrific event offers the president a chance to show leadership
qualities that he’s inexplicably hidden away in some blind trust.

Or, there could be another explanation. Just saying.

Posted by: Occam's razor at January 10, 2011 12:18 PM (P18+/)

58 Yeah, this could be disinformation. I think we're going to see a lot of that.
Posted by: schizuki at January 10, 2011 12:15 PM (M+lbD)

Who cares?? I say throw this shit back in their faces. Fuck 'em!

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2011 12:19 PM (B1tDt)

59 The 'Whoops!' page just got canned.

Posted by: t-bird at January 10, 2011 12:19 PM (FcR7P)

60 I'm with Booger. She wasn't beloved. She was hated on the left for being too conservative, and she was disliked on the right for being a Democrat.

Posted by: Phelps at January 10, 2011 12:20 PM (50ajE)

61 In another, Loughner complains that when he tried to join the military,
he was handed a "mini-Bible." That upset him:"I didn't write a belief
on my Army application and the recruiter wrote on the application:
None," he wrote on YouTube.

Hmm, got angry about being given a Bible...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 10, 2011 12:20 PM (7BU4a)

62 Did the President give a shout out to the Arizona Indian tribes before his moment of silence?

Posted by: Mr. Sar Kastik at January 10, 2011 12:20 PM (70v0o)

63 Fat fuck nose picking bicycle riding hearse chaser Chuckles Johnson has broken the irony meter;

"Sarah Palin deleting old Tweets and Gunsight Maps"

Yup, from Mr Memory Hole himself. Maybe she considered it bad taste to keep them up, but what would Bike Boy know about taste

Posted by: kbdabear at January 10, 2011 12:20 PM (vdfwz)

64 @18
Sorry, I didn't read the thread first. Damn, you snooze, you lose around here.

Posted by: Occam's razor at January 10, 2011 12:20 PM (P18+/)

65 Can anyone else remember when the violent actions of a lone nutball enabled the Regime to crack down on civil rights? Bueler? Bueler? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

Posted by: Giblet at January 10, 2011 12:21 PM (GvhMc)

66 60 I'm with Booger. She wasn't beloved. She was hated on the left for being too conservative, and she was disliked on the right for being a Democrat.
Posted by: Phelps at January 10, 2011 12:20 PM (50ajE)
Yeah, this is a John Kennedy kind of thing... Kennedy would have gone down as a HORRIBLE President if he had not been assasinated.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2011 12:21 PM (AdK6a)

67 Gifford's higher mental functioning is a small price to pay for the further glorification of Teh One.

Posted by: Cicero at January 10, 2011 12:23 PM (Ys0KI)

68 Yeah. I was going to call the "libs rooting for her to die" angle all weekend, but I didn't want to appear as bloodthirsty and unsympathetic as they are.

There is not a dime I wouldn't pay to have tape of some of those newsroom conversations from Saturday...

Posted by: The Mega Indepedent at January 10, 2011 12:23 PM (4ffjL)

69 Who cares?? I say throw this shit back in their faces. Fuck 'em!
Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2011 12:19 PM (B1tDt)
Yes!The monkey fling countermeasure.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 10, 2011 12:24 PM (XBM1t)

70 "Follow the link, and what you find is that someone put this in their comments, citing a Facebook page which may or may not be genuine (it misspells Loughner's name)."
The profile wasmadea very short time after the news broke. I had followed some liberal's link on twitter that said a fake facebook page had already been made they spelled the name wrong. Within an hour or so, the page was deleted by facebook. I took a look at it before it was taken down and it was very obviously fake.

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at January 10, 2011 12:24 PM (HaYO4)

71 Yeah, this is a John Kennedy kind of thing... Kennedy would have gone
down as a HORRIBLE President if he had not been assasinated.

But, Camelot!

Posted by: MFM at January 10, 2011 12:24 PM (QgmBR)

72 Its Newsweek!!
The hope that Obama will somehow step up and show some leadership has a strained wistfulquality.Delicious.

Posted by: kefka at January 10, 2011 12:25 PM (0U+Pz)

73
I'm sure i'll be lambasted as a cold hearted
conservative for saying this, but beloved? Did anyone outside her
district know about her before this? Does anyone think of their
representative, no matter how much they like them, as beloved? Somehow
i doubt it.


Posted by: booger at January 10, 2011 12:10 PM (9RFH1)

She will be sainted.
The same left that wanted her to lose her primary... is now.. totally in love with her and have always supported her.

Posted by: Timbo at January 10, 2011 12:25 PM (ph9vn)

74 And on a further note...
'Nutjob Kills 6'... that is the headline... it should not matter that one was a Judge, and one a Congresscritter.
A moment of silence.... the President involved... Congress shut down... for what is nothing more than the Murder of some Citizens.
The Media, and Administrations, double standard shows that "some animals are more equal than others'...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2011 12:26 PM (AdK6a)

75 Giffords voted against Nancy last week. Someone (Rush, Fox?) said ol' Nancy's botoxed head was swiveling wildly around as the votes were read to stare with laser-like intensity at each "no" vote.

Therefore, it can honestly be said that Nancy drove the killer to shoot Giffords.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 10, 2011 12:26 PM (UOM48)

76 Completye onspiracy theory: The Left took out Giffords. The accomplice they are looking for will turn out to be a political activist who used a crazy soul to carry out a political hit to help the Democrats.

Evidence/Motive (you know this will be scanty as I am making this up.)

1) Shooter was sort of left-wing. Communist manifesto. pot-smoker.

2) Target was not Nancy Pelosi, or some actual object of hate on the right, but some local Blue Dog Democrat who supports gun rights and made Daily Kos upset for her heresy.

I mean, if you had to take out one of your own party for evil, twisted political gain, you'd take out the most RINO of RINO people. Not only do you get "moderate" sympathy you also get rid of a stumbling block.

NOTE: THIS IS COMPLETE CLAPTRAP I JUST MADE UP FOR BULLSHIT PURPOSES. DO NOT BELIEVE.

Posted by: sexypig at January 10, 2011 12:26 PM (UmEOs)

77 Giffords is the Left's Rachel Corrie.
Posted by: Soothsayer News Service at January 10, 2011 12:13 PM (uFokq)
Isn't Rachel Corrie already the left's Rachel Corrie?

Posted by: MWR at January 10, 2011 12:27 PM (4df7R)

78 Therefore, it can honestly be said that Nancy drove the killer to shoot Giffords.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 10, 2011 12:26 PM (UOM4

Except I did not know Pelosi drove? She has a driver doesn't she?

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2011 12:27 PM (0GFWk)

79 She will be sainted.
The same left that wanted her to lose her primary... is now.. totally in love with her and have always supported her.

Posted by: Timbo at January 10, 2011 12:25 PM (ph9vn)
Wasn't she Jewish? Are there Jewish Saints???
Just sayin...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2011 12:27 PM (AdK6a)

80 Isn't Rachel Corrie already the left's Rachel Corrie?

Posted by: MWR at January 10, 2011 12:27 PM (4df7R)

Shit I got a head ache from that

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2011 12:28 PM (0GFWk)

81 Remember, these are the same people who were rooting for us to lose the Viet Nam war.

They are despicable.

Posted by: Nighthawk at January 10, 2011 12:29 PM (02uN6)

82 Alter is a slimey, dishonestlittle troll

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 10, 2011 12:29 PM (1Jaio)

83 Wasn't she Jewish? Are there Jewish Saints???
Just sayin...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2011 12:27 PM (AdK6a)

details... details....Get with the program.

Posted by: Timbo at January 10, 2011 12:29 PM (ph9vn)

84 Wasn't she Jewish? Are there Jewish Saints???

Just sayin...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2011 12:27 PM (AdK6a)


half Jewish, half Christian Scientist.

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2011 12:29 PM (0GFWk)

85 Who cares?? I say throw this shit back in their faces. Fuck 'em!

-------------------

Are you joking? What good does that do if it's fake? (and it looks like it is).

Say, are you a regular around here?

Posted by: schizuki at January 10, 2011 12:29 PM (M+lbD)

86 18-1 at 61 - I don't buy the "They gave me a bible at the recruitment center" comment for even a second. There is no way that that ever happened. Now filling in "None" if he did not make a preference known, thatI believe. Officials hate blank spaces on forms, something has to go in every block even if only N/A, just to keep something from being added later.
Thus hundreds of people have NMI listed as their middle initial on official forms. (NMI stands for "No Middle Initial")

Posted by: Have Blue at January 10, 2011 12:30 PM (mV+es)

87 Nice that Obama rushed to call for a minute's silence to honor the victims of Tucson but where was that same call when 13 US servicemen and women were slaughtered at Fort Hood ?

Posted by: David Jay at January 10, 2011 12:30 PM (wncJO)

88 Heard on Fox News Radio the army has come out and said the killer failed the drug test.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 10, 2011 12:31 PM (UOM48)

89 Thus hundreds of people have NMI listed as their middle initial on official forms. (NMI stands for "No Middle Initial")

Posted by: Have Blue at January 10, 2011 12:30 PM (mV+es)

And I've been using NMN all these years?

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2011 12:31 PM (0GFWk)

90 remember that if you are a favorite of the left its not really rape-rape ...

Posted by: Jeff at January 10, 2011 12:31 PM (A3tpD)

91 The silence you hear form the White House is due to the fact that the Office of Crisis Exploitation is still working on it's strategy. Once it's developed an announcement will be made.

In the mean time .... hold onto your wallets and liberties.

roflmao

Posted by: donabernathy at January 10, 2011 12:31 PM (V7zNr)

92 NOTE: THIS IS COMPLETE CLAPTRAP I JUST MADE UP FOR BULLSHIT PURPOSES. DO NOT BELIEVE.
Posted by: sexypig at January 10, 2011 12:26 PM (UmEOs)

But it's plausable. It's no moreoutlandish than what theMFM are saying about the Tea Party. I say run with it.

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2011 12:33 PM (B1tDt)

93 84 Wasn't she Jewish? Are there Jewish Saints??? Just sayin... Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2011 12:27 PM (AdK6a) Ugh, yeah. Like all of the apostles, Paul, Mary, Mary Magdelen, etc.

Posted by: dagny at January 10, 2011 12:33 PM (+Z6ve)

94 Wasn't she Jewish? Are there Jewish Saints???
Just sayin...
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2011 12:27 PM (AdK6a)
Well, there's always Jesus. They will make Giffords into a Christ-figure.

Posted by: MWR at January 10, 2011 12:34 PM (4df7R)

95 I am sure she is a lovely woman... good wife.. good mother.

But, beloved Congressman? She barely won re-election.


Posted by: Timbo at January 10, 2011 12:35 PM (ph9vn)

96

As to the blogger story Phoenix girl posted up..... I found a little corroboration at the Arizona Daily Star.

From an article early in the news cycle:

http://tinyurl.com/27hamen
Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik would not confirm Loughner
is the suspected shooter. He said the person arrested for the
shooting is uninjured and uncooperative.



The suspected shooter has made death threats before and been
contacted by law-enforcement officers, but the threats weren't
against Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, Dupnik said. The suspect is
unstable, Dupnik said, but the sheriff would not say he is
"insane."Emphasis mine......


Posted by: fixerupper at January 10, 2011 12:35 PM (J5Hcw)

97 18-1 at 61 - I don't buy the "They gave me a bible at the recruitment
center" comment for even a second.

What if "they" were some Gideons handing out bibles at the recruitment center?

Posted by: AmishDude at January 10, 2011 12:35 PM (T0NGe)

98 Say, are you a regular around here?
Posted by: schizuki at January 10, 2011 12:29 PM (M+lbD)

Yeah. Are you??

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2011 12:35 PM (B1tDt)

99 nevergiveup at 89 - Dn't know what they use now. No Middle Name is more accurate, but NMI was what I was told wasused by the Navy Department during WWII.
Of course folks like Harry Truman and Ulysus Grant had middle initials and no middle names.

Posted by: Have Blue at January 10, 2011 12:36 PM (mV+es)

100 Therefore, it can honestly be said that Nancy drove the killer to shoot Giffords.

Her control of grammar is absolute.

Posted by: toby928™ at January 10, 2011 12:36 PM (S5YRY)

101 If one weren't a cynic (into politics, in other words), it would be quite amazing to see how the left is able to pivot from "We have to watch our tone and what we say" in one sentence, to "This blood is all on the right's hands" the next. And do it without the slightest sense of irony. Of course, anyone that pays attention has come to expect it.

Posted by: Dave S at January 10, 2011 12:37 PM (uHiz2)

102 nevergiveup at 89 - Dn't know what they use now. No Middle Name is more accurate, but NMI was what I was told wasused by the Navy Department during WWII.

Of course folks like Harry Truman and Ulysus Grant had middle initials and no middle names.

Posted by: Have Blue at January 10, 2011 12:36 PM (mV+es)

Actually that is funny, because I am the Awards Officer for my Unit in the Navy and I am using NMN.

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2011 12:37 PM (0GFWk)

103 Romeo13@74,

Yeah, it is a bit unsavory that only select individuals are being considered. A 9-yr old child was killed which is, of course, tragic. But so are the deaths of, so far, five other individuals. No one will remember anything except the assassin, the Congresswoman, and possibly the Judge.

All the deaths were equally tragic except, according to a hierarchy of importance, only some were worthy of a media frenzy. Most victims are used just like props in an action movie.

There's so much bias and so many blinders on that I can't believe we ever gave the free press special consideration. The theory of it is infinitely better than the practice.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at January 10, 2011 12:38 PM (swuwV)

104
In March 2003 and again in September 2007 at 'peace' rallies, the leftists held banners:

"We Support Our Troops When They Shoot Their Officers"

"Fuck the Troops"

"No Gods, No Country, No Masters"

Posted by: Soothsayer News Service at January 10, 2011 12:38 PM (uFokq)

105 "half Jewish, half Christian Scientist. "
My dream of Ginger Rogers birthing Sammy Davis, Jr's baby never came true.

Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at January 10, 2011 12:38 PM (HaYO4)

106 - I don't buy the "They gave me a bible at the recruitment center"
comment for even a second. There is no way that that ever happened. Now
filling in "None" if he did not make a preference known, thatI believe.
Officials hate blank spaces on forms, something has to go in every
block even if only N/A, just to keep something from being added later.

Do I think they gave him a Bible? No. Do I think he said that to his friend who the article quotes? Yeah, the shooter was crazy.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 10, 2011 12:39 PM (7BU4a)

107 Two years, and Obama still needs a chance to show his allegedly existing leadership qualities?

Posted by: baldilocks at January 10, 2011 12:39 PM (T2/zQ)

108
Yeah. Are you??

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2011 12:35 PM (B1tDt)

WHO ARE YOU?!

Posted by: Bob Ehteridge ex congressman at January 10, 2011 12:39 PM (ph9vn)

109 If one weren't a cynic (into politics, in other words), it would be quite amazing to see how the left is able to pivot from "We have to watch our tone and what we say" in one sentence, to "This blood is all on the right's hands" the next. And do it without the slightest sense of irony. Of course, anyone that pays attention has come to expect it.I said this on Saturday, but the people screaming at Palin on her FB page "DIE!" over and over and "Blood is on your hands C!NT!" had a total disconnect with their acts of violence directed at her.Totally mad.

Posted by: ¤§EZB§¤ at January 10, 2011 12:40 PM (Ty06w)

110 I'll take Newsweek for a dollar, Alex.

Posted by: Fritz at January 10, 2011 12:40 PM (GwPRU)

111 So he's got his Oklahoma City Moment - they were waiting for that. If he doesn't use it that way I'll have to respect him more.

"..Whether or not he attends the funerals for the Tucson victims, Obama’s
big chance to lead will come in his State of the Union address on
January 25"

We already know he doesn't even call the families of fallen soldiers like Bush did, so you think he's gonna attend funerals? Only if they're in Hawaii.

Posted by: Anniee451 at January 10, 2011 12:41 PM (kwojf)

112 I'll take Newsweek for a dollar, Alex.
Posted by: Fritz at January 10, 2011 12:40 PM (GwPRU)

Your over paying

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2011 12:41 PM (0GFWk)

113 Actually that is funny, because I am the Awards Officer for my Unit in the Navy and I am using NMN.
Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2011 12:37 PM (0GFWk)

And I'm presuming that you're not insane.

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2011 12:41 PM (B1tDt)

114 We already know he doesn't even call the families of fallen soldiers like Bush did, so you think he's gonna attend funerals? Only if they're in Hawaii.
Posted by: Anniee451 at January 10, 2011 12:41 PM (kwojf)
Too good of a Photo op to pass up, and its a one time trip.
To see the familys of dead Service Members, like Bush did, would be a long term commitment.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2011 12:42 PM (AdK6a)

115 The suspect is
unstable, Dupnik said, but the sheriff would not say he is
"insane."Emphasis mine......



Posted by: fixerupper at January 10, 2011 12:35 PM

The sheriff's own mental stability is definitely coming into question

Posted by: kbdabear at January 10, 2011 12:42 PM (vdfwz)

116 nevergiveup at 102 - Bureaucracies do love their procedures and love even more changing them for incomprhensible reasons.
I believe that Truman and Grant both made up there middle initial when they joined the service. Read once (in a childrens biography) that Grant did not want UGstenciled on his footlocker when he went to the acadamy at West Point.

Posted by: Have Blue at January 10, 2011 12:42 PM (mV+es)

117 Where's our fearless, omni-sexual, Ewok Leader?

Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2011 12:42 PM (3iKLS)

118
The Rachel Corrie reference is how the Left *immediately* began to use Gifford's dying body as a political prop to advance their agenda.

Posted by: Soothsayer News Service at January 10, 2011 12:43 PM (uFokq)

119 Sheriff Dupnik and the MFM have incited violence between the posters here!


Sayin'

Posted by: SurferDoc at January 10, 2011 12:44 PM (o3bYL)

120 30, if you're the least bit surprised by the media's handling of this you obviously weren't a liberty-minded sort back in 1995 post OKC.

Posted by: ScottJ at January 10, 2011 12:44 PM (/bVuS)

121 115 The suspect is unstable, Dupnik said, but the sheriff would not say he is "insane."Emphasis mine......Posted by: fixerupper at January 10, 2011 12:35 PMThe sheriff's own mental stability is definitely coming into question
Posted by: kbdabear at January 10, 2011 12:42 PM (vdfwz)
And the Sheriff just tainted the Jury Pool for any type of insanity defense.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2011 12:44 PM (AdK6a)

122 Lets see...In response to these murders, we now have congressional democrats talking about:

Restricting free speech: 1st Amendment
More Gun Control: 2nd Amendment

I guess we can look forward to quartering soldiers soon. well, not soldiers which would be welcome, probably the gropers at the TSA watching you in the shower.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at January 10, 2011 12:44 PM (xQAv5)

123 I said this on Saturday, but the people screaming at
Palin on her FB page "DIE!" over and over and "Blood is on your hands
C!NT!" had a total disconnect with their acts of violence directed at
her.Totally mad.

Posted by: ¤§EZB§¤ at January 10, 2011 12:40 PM (Ty06w)
My take is that they don't really see conservatives as people - so violence is ok against fake people. Note the same general argument used by totalitarians everywhere.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 10, 2011 12:44 PM (7BU4a)

124 Gwen Paltry gets her star kick.

Posted by: Paltry Agency, LLC at January 10, 2011 12:45 PM (kb0wl)

125 On the Left blaming the Right for leftist lunacy gone on murderous rampage:

Fred Thompson just reviewed Byron York's reminder that Dick Morris advised Bill Clinton to utilize the ricochet affect on public opinion after the Oklahoma City bombing.

Also remember the LBJ attack book on the false charges against Goldwater after the JFK assassination, during the '64 potus campaign.

Posted by: maverick muse at January 10, 2011 12:45 PM (H+LJc)

126 I shouted out you and me killed the Kennedys
when after all it was a Marxist and a Palestinian.

Posted by: Mick Jagger at January 10, 2011 12:46 PM (V6CZ8)

127 WHO ARE YOU?!
Posted by: Bob Ehteridge ex congressman at January 10, 2011 12:39 PM (ph9vn)

I'm the guy who lives next door to the pharmacy so I don't have to walk very far to refill my meds.

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2011 12:46 PM (B1tDt)

128
self-righteous delusion

they're fighting the 'good' fight when they scream "I wish all you haters would die!!!"

Posted by: Soothsayer News Service at January 10, 2011 12:46 PM (uFokq)

129 And I'm presuming that you're not insane.

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2011 12:41 PM (B1tDt)

I wouldn't presume that

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 10, 2011 12:46 PM (0GFWk)

130 "Read once (in a childrens biography) that Grant did not want UG stenciled on his footlocker when he went to the acadamy at West Point."

In the kid-oriented bio I read in middle school, he used Simpson (his mother's maiden name) for his middle name because he had caught a raft of shit as a kid for having HUG (Hiram Ulysses Grant) as his initials.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at January 10, 2011 12:46 PM (xJVlJ)

131
Claire McCaskill was so sick of 'giving money to the rich,' she called for people to get their pitchforks.

Posted by: Soothsayer News Service at January 10, 2011 12:48 PM (uFokq)

132 Yeah. Are you??

----------

I am. That's why I asked - generally, the regular Morons don't advocate stupid-ass, counterproductive shit like playing up possible hoaxes that cause us to discredit ourselves. Not really an effective strategy.

Posted by: schizuki at January 10, 2011 12:48 PM (M+lbD)

133 This shit is all going to come to blood in the streets and the Media will have knowingly and willfully led it there. They will rejoice in the blood on their hands and call it baby's breath.

Posted by: Holger at January 10, 2011 12:48 PM (YxGud)

134
question: what does an angry mob do with pitchforks?

Hold a peace rally? Raise awareness for social justice? Or maim and kill?

Posted by: Soothsayer News Service at January 10, 2011 12:49 PM (uFokq)

135 More conspiracy thoughts...again, complete speculation and not to be considered seriously...the dude was crazy.

Why kill Giffords? Why not kill the Democrat in AZ who supported the boycott of his own state? (Griya?) He was probably farther left and pro-immigration.

Killing the blonde young female who supports the 2nd amendment means you get more media attention (works with the crazy theory too though) and also you get a nice gun control message when Giffords recovers and becomes Brady II.

Posted by: sexypig at January 10, 2011 12:49 PM (UmEOs)

136 Judy Clarke will defend Jared Loughner

Previous clients (all now serving time):
1. 9/11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui
2. "Unabomber" Theodore Kaczynski
3. Atlanta Olympics bomber Eric Rudolph
4. Susan Smith, who drowned her toddlers in 1994

Posted by: Barney Frank at January 10, 2011 12:51 PM (tvs2p)

137 Have a good day, all. I have to go to work to pay for somebody's health care. Don't get wrapped around the axle and don't let these rat bastards have us turning on each other.

Posted by: SurferDoc at January 10, 2011 12:53 PM (o3bYL)

138 you get a nice gun control message when Giffords recovers and becomes Brady II. -- or wakes up and publicly applies for a CC permit.

Posted by: Jean at January 10, 2011 12:53 PM (lnUW/)

139 I am. That's why I asked - generally, the regular Morons don't advocate stupid-ass, counterproductive shit like playing up possible hoaxes that cause us to discredit ourselves. Not really an effective strategy.
Posted by: schizuki at January 10, 2011 12:48 PM (M+lbD)

Heh.

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2011 12:53 PM (B1tDt)

140 @124 OMG! Gwyneth Poltroon is Jewish!?!

Posted by: comatus at January 10, 2011 12:53 PM (hrwMe)

141 Racist Democrat motherfuckers!

When Sarah Palin shot Tupac, they ain't had SHIT to say.
But now she kills some white woman and they all agitated.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 10, 2011 12:54 PM (TATbF)

142 Next week I'm scheduled for a rectal exam, and I'm not at all looking forward to having the sigmoidoscope shoved up my Alter.

Posted by: Sweet Lucifer Morningstar at January 10, 2011 12:54 PM (q/Y+m)

143 My take is that they don't really see conservatives as people - so
violence is ok against fake people. Note the same general argument used
by totalitarians everywhere.

Not even "fake people"--conservatives are less than animals in their minds.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 10, 2011 12:54 PM (4ucxv)

144 The typical conspiracy theory takes the "who benefits" approach.

The Tea Party already crushed the Dems in the house. Why would you need to kill a Blue Dog after you already won?

This is like assassinating Peyton Manning in March 2010 because you are a Saints fan.

So, who really benefits from this action? Why the Left of course.

Maybe Mel Gibson can take this up - he was good in that Conspiracy movie, and he knows from experience how these work.

Posted by: sexypig at January 10, 2011 12:55 PM (UmEOs)

145 you get a nice gun control message when Giffords recovers and becomes Brady II.


I can't believe they haven't taken this down yet.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 10, 2011 12:56 PM (4ucxv)

146 FRONT TOWARD LEFT at 130 - Actually that rings bells and may be the same story I read also with my muddled reflection.

Posted by: Have Blue at January 10, 2011 12:56 PM (mV+es)

147 OK, back to work. The boss doesn't pay for me to come up with crackpot theories, you know.

Maybe I need to talk to Axelrod - I hear he pays for this stuff.

Posted by: sexypig at January 10, 2011 12:57 PM (UmEOs)

148 My town paper, a lefty-McClatchy rag is there ever was one, did NOT fall for theunhinged liberal spin on this! I'm amazed and gratified. They even had an excellent article today on the gunman -- had to write it themselves, which they rarely do these days. Kudos to theOlympian.com.

Posted by: starboardhelm at January 10, 2011 12:58 PM (ctMcG)

149 I believe that Truman and Grant both made up there middle initial when they joined the service.

Truman's middle name, I believe, is actually the letter "S"-- no period initially, although he used it on official documents. Story is that both his grandfathers, both of whom had names beginning with S, wanted to be the namesake. So his mother told them both to STFU and just plopped the "S" there on behalf of both.

Posted by: Filly at January 10, 2011 12:58 PM (t+B38)

150 Conservatives like to argue that these are isolated incidents carried
out by lunatics and therefore carry no big lessons (unless the
perpetrator is Muslim, in which case it’s terrorism)

Yes, Mr. Alter, two incidents (AZ and OK City, the only incidents cited as proof of this wave of conservative violence), 16 years apart, conducted by guys whose politics appear to be, roughly speaking "nutjob", with talking points drawn from the (mainstream-ish) left and (marginalized fringe) right are "isolated incidents," with no big lessons other than "some dudes are crazy".

A thousand or so incidents conducted by guys yelling Allahu Akbar? That's kind of a "pattern".

Posted by: Brendan at January 10, 2011 12:59 PM (saRwI)

151 Alter's advise to Obama is the worst possible ... for Dems. If Obama uses the State of the Union and this tragedy to score political points, he will effectively be holding up a sign that says, "I have ceded the 2012 election to Republicans." It's such bad advise Alter is giving that I'm almost euphoric.

Here's the advise the left should give Obama: Call out the lefties who are politicizing this tragedy and compare it to how you demanded a withholding of judgment in the Fort Hood massacre. Make the connection.

If Obama were to do this, he would win BIG politically. But Dems/libs really appear too stupid to understand this. They are drunk with hatred and it's destroying them.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at January 10, 2011 01:04 PM (6SIms)

152 Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 10, 2011 12:04 PM (eOXTH)

This is exactly what eman was speculating yesterday. Appears he was right.

Posted by: Derak at January 10, 2011 01:04 PM (CjpKH)

153 When the "facts" do come to light on these murders, the story will be on the back page. I'm coming to believe, especially after this last election, that a majority of the American people know exactly what's going on here. What our responsibility has to be is to contact our representatives and tell them that we're not buying into this shit anymore. The way the dems and the MFM are handling this is just another reminder to the conservative majority as to the type of people trying to kill America.

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2011 01:04 PM (B1tDt)

154 Well, if you click on the "Loughner's lefty heroes" sidebar link, the page is now gone.

Hint: if a particularly juicy piece of too-good-to-be-true has the words "Free Republic" associated with it, best to hold off. Freepers are the Right's equivalent of DailyKos - screetchy, overly-excitable and frequently wrong.

Posted by: schizuki at January 10, 2011 01:04 PM (M+lbD)

155 I'm waiting for the NYT to release "The Protocols of the Fatcat Rednecks", detailing how conservatives murder liberal babiesand use their blood to make Super Bowl Sunday chili.

Posted by: gebrauchshund at January 10, 2011 01:06 PM (iYwUw)

156 Both sides are shamelessly using this tragedy to harden their ideological stances and demonize their ideological opponents.
Both sides claim to know what is best for the rest of us, while neither is willing to give an inch.
Both sides, knowingly or unknowingly, use The Constitution a a prop to excuse their grab for power and control over the lives of others.
Both sides practice and endorse tyranny while claiming to promote freedom.
(35, 000 new laws - restricting your freedom - last year atthe state level, alone. Hint, hint. wink, wink. Cluebat.)
...and both sides think the other should be ashamed of themselves...

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at January 10, 2011 01:09 PM (wjYaM)

157 The media is more Marxist than the Russians.

Posted by: Cherry π at January 10, 2011 01:09 PM (+sBB4)

158 Just read 'Phoenixgirl's' post (@12:04) and figured there was no necessity to wade through any later comments.

PG, thank you for your most insightful comment; while directed primarily at the reprehensible Pima County Sheriff, I think your post is applicable to the entire MSM and its rabid followers.

Posted by: alwyr at January 10, 2011 01:10 PM (w2++y)

159 As long as all sex assults are being blamed on them, lets specifically mention rape. I mean, the FUGLY POS Sandra Bernhardt wanted a couple brothers to take Palin out and rape her. So they have ACTIVELY called for violence against women. Might as well pin all the rapes in the US, and maybe around the world on lefty democrats. She is after all internationally famous actress.

democrat = douchnozzle

Posted by: todler at January 10, 2011 01:10 PM (fPOY0)

160 O/t: "Ashley Turton, ex-Congressional aide, found dead in burning car" and it's also at Huff and Puff









Posted by: curious at January 10, 2011 01:14 PM (p302b)

161 Both sides....

blah blah blah.

Newsflash, Warren. there's only one side doing this shit.

Posted by: grognard at January 10, 2011 01:14 PM (NS2Mo)

162 "(35, 000 new laws - restricting your freedom - last year atthe state level, alone. Hint, hint. wink, wink. Cluebat.)"
Yeah,one side pushes for more government intervention and more laws and regulations, while the other side pushes for less of both, but they're the same.
I think the cluebat done gave you a concussion, son.

Posted by: gebrauchshund at January 10, 2011 01:15 PM (iYwUw)

163 O/T: Director of Congressional Affairs for Progress Energy. why is progress energy ringing a bell today?

Posted by: curious at January 10, 2011 01:15 PM (p302b)

164 "Ashley Turton, ex-Congressional aide, found dead in burning car"

Sarah Palin denies involvement. Admits to striking a match once.

Posted by: Cherry π at January 10, 2011 01:18 PM (+sBB4)

165 (35, 000 new laws - restricting your freedom - last year atthe state level, alone.

How many states flipped their legislatures and/or governors from D to R in November? Quite a lot, if I recall.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 10, 2011 01:18 PM (4ucxv)

166 It's amazing how much fake/counterfit stuff about Loughnerthe Left has manufactured over this tragedy in Tuscon.
So far:
-Fake facebook site with Jared LAughner name attached
-Fake list of jared loughner's heroes
-Fake voter registration identifying Jared Loughner as a registered Republican(he first registered as an Indi in 2006 and that registration still stood in 200
Can anyone add more to the list?

Posted by: Speller at January 10, 2011 01:18 PM (J74Py)

167 163 O/T: Director of Congressional Affairs for Progress Energy. why is progress energy ringing a bell today?
Posted by: curious at January 10, 2011 01:15 PM (p302b)
Merger talks with Duke energy?
But this makes my point from above... an insider of the Political class dies in a car wreck... National News.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2011 01:19 PM (AdK6a)

168 I don't know why 2008 came up with a smiley.

Posted by: Speller at January 10, 2011 01:19 PM (J74Py)

169 An eight followed by a parentheses generates a sunglass smiley.
like so

Posted by: gebrauchshund at January 10, 2011 01:21 PM (iYwUw)

170 Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at January 10, 2011 01:09 PM (wjYaM)

Sounds like you need to adjust your eyeglasses a bit there, Warren.

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2011 01:21 PM (B1tDt)

171 DEATH to those who say Islam is violent! things we think are intemperate!

Posted by: The Left at January 10, 2011 01:23 PM (MMC8r)

172 Warren, Fuck You.

The Left started this shit by blaming the OKC Alfred P. Murrah building bombing on us. They have blamed as much shit between then and now on us. So with as little respect as possible, FOAD.

Posted by: Holger at January 10, 2011 01:24 PM (YxGud)

173 164 "Ashley Turton, ex-Congressional aide, found dead in burning car"Sarah Palin denies involvement. Admits to striking a match once.
Posted by: Cherry ð at January 10, 2011 01:18 PM (+sBB4)
We have no Proof of Sarah Palin's involvment, but Sarah Palin has been known to drive a car.

Posted by: MSM at January 10, 2011 01:25 PM (AdK6a)

174 Sarah Palin causes ace's HTML errors. The old slash i mind control trick.

Posted by: Cherry π at January 10, 2011 01:26 PM (+sBB4)

175 Mayhem, carnage!! this is my moment to shine!

Posted by: Berserk Obama at January 10, 2011 01:26 PM (K/USr)

176 The "a pox on both your houses" types tend to spring up when a Lefty meme falls flat. Funny, that.

Posted by: schizuki at January 10, 2011 01:26 PM (M+lbD)

177 Posted by: schizuki at January 10, 2011 01:26 PM (M+lbD)

Of course. They want to win. They won when we played by the rules they demanded us play by.

Posted by: Holger at January 10, 2011 01:27 PM (YxGud)

178 Wasn't Clenis's first reaction to 9/11 being upset that it didn't happen under his watch so that he could look firm and decisive? I swear my wife told me that on the day; that it was reported as he flew back from Australia iirc.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 10, 2011 01:27 PM (olKiY)

179 Bonesteel, are you still pushing that stupid bullshit? You were dumb with it yesterday and even dumber today.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 10, 2011 01:29 PM (olKiY)

180 163 O/T: Director of Congressional Affairs for Progress Energy. why is progress energy ringing a bell today?
Posted by: curious at January 10, 2011 01:15 PM (p302b)

Vic was talking about how Progress was going to merge with Duke Energy. I forget which thread it was. I meant to ask him if they planned any new nukes but never got around to it.

Posted by: joncelli at January 10, 2011 01:30 PM (RD7QR)

181 WAIT A MINUTE...

The Sheriff KNEW that he'd been making death threats to all manner of people for years, but says THIS was because of TALK RADIO?

Then he's not just spouting opinion, HE'S LYING.

Posted by: The Left at January 10, 2011 01:31 PM (MMC8r)

182 We have no Proof of Sarah Palin's involvment, but Sarah Palin has been known to drive a car.
Posted by: MSM at January 10, 2011 01:25 PM (AdK6a)

And that car would run on fossil fuel, which she endorses. And what does fossil fuel do? It "BURNS".

Posted by: MFM at January 10, 2011 01:32 PM (B1tDt)

183 If curious' prediction from last night holds true, that the dextro pundit sphere will follow Rush's lead, there will be a lot of bleeding assholes by nightfall.

Rush has been tearing them a new one for an hour and a half. I might even have to gag myself and watch Oreilly tonight.

Posted by: toby928™ at January 10, 2011 01:32 PM (S5YRY)

184 Told ya bout the sheriff.

Posted by: sifty does not dial back shit at January 10, 2011 01:34 PM (Evsno)

185 I heard Obama was really inspiring during his moment of silence. Be nice if we had two years of that. If Obama would come out and apologize for his incitements to violence, and call off his dogs on MSNBC he could become a real President. I think he won't.

Posted by: kansas at January 10, 2011 01:35 PM (mka2b)

186 Posted by: toby928™ at January 10, 2011 01:32 PM (S5YRY)

I'm going to put him on now. Was swamped today and didn't have a chance.

Posted by: curious at January 10, 2011 01:35 PM (p302b)

187 And that car would run on fossil fuel, which she endorses. And what does fossil fuel do? It "BURNS".
Posted by: MFM at January 10, 2011 01:32 PM (B1tDt)
And in unrelated News, the Obama administration announced the Ashley Turton Memorial Drilling Ban Bill, which will be fastracked through the House and Seante.

Posted by: MSM at January 10, 2011 01:36 PM (AdK6a)

188 So if Loughner had shot more 9 year old, that would have been a good thing?

Posted by: TexasJew at January 10, 2011 01:37 PM (u7MHs)

189 Rush is on a roll, going after the left for their blatent hypocrisy.
Good stuff, as usual.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 10, 2011 01:38 PM (b6qrg)

190 ADMIT NOTHING
DENY EVERYTHING
MAKE COUNTER ACCUSATIONS
the other kids started it they started calling me names first the other kids were throwing stones too

Posted by: archie bunker at January 10, 2011 01:38 PM (0YS61)

191 I might even have to gag myself and watch Oreilly tonight.

-------------------

Are you kidding? This is a perfect chance for O'Reilly to pull his "above it all on Mount Olympus" schtick.

"Look, the folks are tired of all this nonsense from both sides... They just wanna know who's lookin' out for them..."

Posted by: schizuki at January 10, 2011 01:38 PM (M+lbD)

192 The narrative turns.

john Ryan wept.

Posted by: toby928™ at January 10, 2011 01:39 PM (S5YRY)

193 Obama WILL benefit from it and Palin's value on Intrade.com fell by 50%

Posted by: archie bunker at January 10, 2011 01:39 PM (0YS61)

194 Posted by: archie bunker at January 10, 2011 01:38 PM (0YS61)
Suck your mother's balls.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 10, 2011 01:39 PM (XBM1t)

195 "Love is never having to say you lobby""White House congressional liaisons Dan Turton and Sean Kennedy work the
halls of Congress for Obamaat the same timetheir spouses are pitching
the causes ofoutside interests: Ashley Turton is a lobbyist for utility
giant Progress Energy, and Kristi Kennedy is a lobbyist with Elmendorf
Strategies, which represents banking, energy and health care interests,
among others. "

Posted by: curious at January 10, 2011 01:40 PM (p302b)

196 Palin's value on Intrade.com fell by 50%

That's funny right there. For a second I thought Good parody, and then I saw the hash, and it got even funnier.

Where's the inbeforethe inbeforethe troll guy?

Posted by: toby928™ at January 10, 2011 01:41 PM (S5YRY)

197 Hi all,

I hope everyone has their blood pressure meds stocked up. It looks like it's going to be a blood-boilingly annoying week in the MSM.

And Congress.

And I still stand by my position that they should not have suspended normal legislative work this week. All that's happening now is that the Dems have all sorts of free time on their hands to dream up completely wacky ways to regulate free speech, guns, pictures, what have you.

Posted by: Y-not at January 10, 2011 01:41 PM (pW2o8)

198 So if Loughner had shot more 9 year old, that would have been a good thing?
Posted by: TexasJew at January 10, 2011 01:37 PM (u7MHs)

It all depends on if the 9 year olds believe that polar bears are dying en masse on small ice flows drifting in the ocean.

Posted by: MFM at January 10, 2011 01:42 PM (B1tDt)

199 "Obama WILL benefit from it and Palin's value on Intrade.com fell by 50%"

One of yours committed mass murder, and you come here to trumpet the fact that your side has falsely pinned this onto Sarah Palin.

That is all I need to know.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at January 10, 2011 01:42 PM (xJVlJ)

200 Then he's not just spouting opinion, HE'S LYING.
He's a Democrat.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 10, 2011 01:43 PM (4ucxv)

201 ADMIT NOTHING
DON'T SUPINELY ACCEPT SLANDER

DENY EVERYTHING POINT OUT THE LIES

MAKE COUNTER ACCUSATIONS DEMONSTRATE YOUR ACCUSER'S SHAMELESS CAPACITY FOR PROJECTION

FIFY, assclown.

Posted by: schizuki at January 10, 2011 01:44 PM (M+lbD)

202 Sheriff Fife Dupnik: "We see one political party blocking another one from making America a better country."
My Irony Meter™ is a pink blur...and I smell smoke...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 10, 2011 01:44 PM (b6qrg)

203 Just curious, was the shooter a registered voter?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at January 10, 2011 01:46 PM (9eDbm)

204 Obama WILL benefit from it and Palin's value on Intrade.com fell by 50%

--------------------------

Congratulations, you fucking vulture. You just admitted what your side is doing.

Posted by: schizuki at January 10, 2011 01:46 PM (M+lbD)

205 If this kid Loughner is under 26, will he be tried as an Adult?

Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2011 01:46 PM (VfRL2)

206 Oops just read #166... source?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at January 10, 2011 01:46 PM (9eDbm)

207 149
I believe that Truman and Grant both made up there middle initial when they joined the service.

Grant's given name was Hiram Ulysses but his family called him by his middle name. The story about him not wanting HUG stenciled on his trunk when he arrived at West Point iss true. He reversed his initials to read UHG to avoid the inevitable hazing from the upperclassmen over his initials. When he arrived at West Point, he was on the roles as U.S. Grant because the Congress Critter who appointed him assumed Ulysses was his first name and believed that his middle name must have been his mother's maiden name, Simpson. The Army wasn't about to correct the error, hence, he is known to history as U.S. Grant. And for the hazing, he was still called "United States" and "Uncle Sam." The "Sam" stuck and was the nickname that followed him among his close friends in the Army.

Posted by: Reiver at January 10, 2011 01:47 PM (64S5N)

208 205
If this kid Loughner is under 26, will he be tried as an Adult?

Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2011 01:46 PM (VfRL2)
Well played.

Posted by: grognard at January 10, 2011 01:47 PM (NS2Mo)

209 And I still stand by my position that they should not have suspended normal legislative work this week.

While I was out for my walk this morning, I remembered how after Tim Johnson from SD suffered a stroke, the lefties went apeshit trying to figure out how that would affect votes in the Senate, if someone would be appointed, blah blah blah. They're so busy whacking off to bashing Palin/Rush/Tea Party/etc they haven't even bothered to wonder when/if Giffords will be able to return to her seat, or bitch about the GOP majority increasing, etc.

Bizzaro world.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 10, 2011 01:47 PM (4ucxv)

210 Well, if anyone thought the MFM - 1) wasn't influential, or 2) going to get back to something resembling ethical journalism anytime soon, here's your wakeup call.
Just wait for the unbelievable bullshit warning light to flash during the 2012 campaign season.
Journalist 2.0 is up and running with a vengeance.
(Sorry if this has been covered recently, I've been out of the game for a few days)

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 10, 2011 01:48 PM (fLHQe)

211 Did anyone just hear that very angry caller to Rush? guess the community is rallying around the mom? I'm so confused, people said the kid had no job so how could he be living in a separate house from his mom and be going to school, where did he get the money for that?

Posted by: curious at January 10, 2011 01:48 PM (p302b)

212 We might want to point out the leftests and their fellow travelers that while the "Right" (as well
as the "Left") engage in ugly and uncivil political speech, accusing
conservatives in general and Palin in particular of actually
encouraging violence is far Far more incendiary than that "graphic" she
posted. Liberals want to turn the political discourse into a shooting
war because they know they're intellectual bankrupt.

Posted by: Christopher at January 10, 2011 01:49 PM (lUB2b)

213 I'm so confused, people said the kid had no job so how could he be living in a separate house from his mom and be going to school, where did he get the money for that?
I dole out that sweetness, now.

Posted by: Ungle Sugar at January 10, 2011 01:50 PM (VfRL2)

214 how could he be living in a separate house from his mom and be going to school, where did he get the money for that?

Hi. Have we met?

Posted by: Federally-guaranteed Student Loans at January 10, 2011 01:50 PM (4ucxv)

215 Like I said over at PJM:

Politicizing a tragedy? Sure, I’ll take a shot. I hope that Giffords makes a complete recovery….and changes parties.

These last hours have produced abundant evidence that her fellow
Democrats would rather her dead at the hands of an “enemy” than alive by
the grace of God. They’d rather lay culpability than render prayers.
They’d rather wave a bloody shirt than work toward a just peace.

Her neurosurgeon has given us some hope for her recovery, but it
would be a horrible impairment indeed if she were left incapable of perceiving
the wrong in these disgusting antics.

Posted by: cthulhu at January 10, 2011 01:52 PM (kaalw)

216 If this kid Loughner is under 26, will he be tried as an Adult?
Posted by: garrett at January 10, 2011 01:46 PM (VfRL2)

This just reminded me of another tact that the statists will try to insinuate. This poor maladjusted boy didn't get the medical treatment he needed because of the high cost of health care. If we had only implemented Ocare sooner, maybe this wouldn't have happened.

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2011 01:52 PM (B1tDt)

217
In light of john Ryan's wet fart upthread, I suggest that whomever the GOP taps for the SOTU response have two speeches ready. If the teleprompter even hints at trying to make political hay over this mass murder and the "oh so sad state of political discourse of late," the entire response should be a full sixty minutes' exhibition of all of the nasty shit that has vomited from that fucking retard's mouth citing time place and context.

Everything from "bitter clingers" to "typical white person" to the knife/gun "Chicago way" to "between you and the pitchforks" to "don't think we're not keeping score, brother" to "whose ass to kick" to "punish your enemies."

Then, it'll be time to take about Jonathan "G-D America!" Wright and that slimy fucking Ayers weasel.

If this fucker is going to torch it all, then it's time to put down some firebreaks.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at January 10, 2011 01:52 PM (xJVlJ)

218 Burn the Witch at January 10, 2011 01:48 PM
This.

Posted by: shan2008 at January 10, 2011 01:52 PM (DB9eK)

219 Obysmal's sending in reinforcements to continue the overseas trashing.

Posted by: RushBabe at January 10, 2011 01:53 PM (urYpw)

220 FTL @217, you're dreaming. Would never happen. Should, but never will.

Posted by: ScottJ at January 10, 2011 01:55 PM (/bVuS)

221 This just reminded me of another tact that the statists will try to insinuate. This poor maladjusted boy didn't get the medical treatment he needed because of the high cost of health care. If we had only implemented Ocare sooner, maybe this wouldn't have happened.
You're right. Praise Gaia, this thing's a political gold mine!

Posted by: The Democrats at January 10, 2011 01:55 PM (QKKT0)

222 Well, Democrats by your own logic you know own responsibility for every rape and sex crime in this country.

And Certain Fucking Doomabee is responsible for paroling them early.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 10, 2011 01:55 PM (mHQ7T)

223 john Ryan would write more compelling stuff if he wrote it on the walls in poop.

Posted by: nickless at January 10, 2011 01:55 PM (MMC8r)

224 This poor maladjusted boy didn't get the medical treatment he needed because of the high cost of health care.

What? He was 21, his parents were responsible for his health insurance. That age-26 thing has already taken effect.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 10, 2011 01:57 PM (4ucxv)

225 To quote: "We are so fucking boned".

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2011 01:59 PM (B1tDt)

226 his strengths as a calm and rational leader..."


... who voted to let innocent babies who survived botched abortions suffocate in dirty linen closets, because it helped his Goddamn AmeriKKKa preacher.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 10, 2011 01:59 PM (mHQ7T)

227 I'm shocked, shocked, that lefties would be willing to exploit any opportunity, no matter how base or corrupt, to pursue their plans for utopia!

Oh, wait - no I'm not.

Posted by: mongo78 at January 10, 2011 01:59 PM (2b46R)

228 Conservatives have done nothing significant when it comes to shaping public opinion on Islam.
If you can't help reading the dozens hundreds thousands tens of thousandscountless stories recounting jihadi motivations since 2001, and I can't, they all... say... the... same... thing...They fight to make Islam superior over all other religions (all Islamic governments)and to makeGod's law (sharia) the only law followed anywhere.Yet no conclusions should be drawnregarding Islam or its teachings.
Whereas random crank shooter motivations vary between the gold standard and, of course, The Squirrels. Which both clearly implicate Sarah Palin and the Tea Party.
The MFM is parody-proof.

Posted by: Beagle at January 10, 2011 01:59 PM (sOtz/)

229 "FTL @217, you're dreaming. Would never happen. Should, but never will."

I'm sure that you're right, and that is exactly why we are where we are today.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at January 10, 2011 01:59 PM (xJVlJ)

230 About the MFM, I havea couple of questions in to see if my local cable supplier reports blocked channels to Nielsen or the FCC. If that's the case, then it's time to start blocking CNN, MSNBC, HLN en masse. I've already cancelled my subscription to the local Tribune-affilliated puppy training device newspaper.
I'll let you know what I find out.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 10, 2011 02:01 PM (b6qrg)

231 Jared Loughner fake Republican voter registration-
http://tinyurl.com/4ckncru

Posted by: Speller at January 10, 2011 02:03 PM (J74Py)

232 "FTL @217, you're dreaming. Would never happen. Should, but never will."



I'm sure that you're right, and that is exactly why we are where we are today.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at January 10, 2011 01:59 PM (xJVlJ)
Absolutely; we've got the clean toga crowd at Repuke Central afraid to do anything that will jeopardize those dinner party invites.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 10, 2011 02:03 PM (olKiY)

233 There was a time when Americans would look at all of the stupidity surounding this issue (on both sides)and dismiss it as such.
Today we must declare ourselves on one side or the other.
Stupidity won.
Be prepared

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at January 10, 2011 02:04 PM (wjYaM)

234 Oh here we fucking go. Dems will solve this problem with some good ol' hasty legislation.
"..introduce legislation making it a federal crime for a person to use language or symbols that could be perceived as threatening or inciting violence against a Member of Congress or federal official."
I'm sure this will clear the problem right up, while providing cover for some totally awesome selective enforcement.
Us=Boned
It's time to rein these fuckers in.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 10, 2011 02:06 PM (fLHQe)

235 Warren 'No Labels' Bonesteel.

Posted by: nickless at January 10, 2011 02:07 PM (MMC8r)

236 If this fucker is going to torch it all, then it's time to put down some firebreaks.
Click my handle for my effort today. I had to update it when I found Michelle Malkin's rather lengthy post (it's the last link).
We have quite a bitof ammunition, courtesy of the left's ownderangement.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 10, 2011 02:07 PM (b6qrg)

237 This just reminded me of another tact that the statists will try to insinuate. This poor maladjusted boy didn't get the medical treatment he needed because of the high cost of health care. If we had only implemented Ocare sooner, maybe this wouldn't have happened.
Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2011 01:52 PM (B1tDt)
Yeah, even though his Mom is a public employee (SEIU member? anyway to check) and he could be on her insurance as he was under 26.
But I still expect a cry for more "oversite" of people (read investigations) as they "could" have prevented this just by destroying the guys Civil Rights to privacy and due process.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2011 02:11 PM (AdK6a)

238 Oh here we fucking go. Dems will solve this problem with some good ol' hasty legislation.
"..introduce legislation making it a federal crime for a person to use language or symbols that could be perceived as threatening or inciting violence against a Member of Congress or federal official."
I'm sure this will clear the problem right up, while providing cover for some totally awesome selective enforcement.
Us=Boned
It's time to rein these fuckers in.
Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 10, 2011 02:06 PM (fLHQe)

I'm praying that cooler heads will prevail. This is a direct assault on the first amendment. This will be our downfall if this or anything like this is legislated.

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2011 02:12 PM (B1tDt)

239 Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 10, 2011 02:06 PM (fLHQe)
And is sooooo in line with the whole Equal Protection of the Law thing... pesky Constitution...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2011 02:12 PM (AdK6a)

240 I'm praying that cooler heads will prevail. This is a direct assault
on the first amendment. This will be our downfall if this or anything
like this is legislated.

Beat Kennedy!



(Oh, wait, too violent.)



Crush Kerry!



(No...)



Whip Pelosi!



(Oh, heck...)



Posted by: nickless at January 10, 2011 02:13 PM (MMC8r)

241 Wynn Miller claims to have 1 billion adherents worldwide. In interviews he agreed that he and Loughner shared beliefs on grammar and that it was possible that the latter had read his website. But he dismissed as "ridiculous" the idea that this could have inspired the mass shooting. There is no evidence thus far that Loughner knew of Wynn Miller or his beliefs.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at January 10, 2011 02:15 PM (tvs2p)

242 bonesteel

what are you talking about? the LEFT JUMPED ON THIS IMMEDIATELY....THEY DIDN'T BOTHER TO DO ANY INVESTIGATION INTO THIS NUT ....HIS OWN PEERS CAME OUT LABELING HIM A LIB WITHIN THE FIRST HOURS AND STILL THE LEFT CALLED HIM A CONSERVATIVE!!!!!!! THE PIMA COUNTY SHERIFF, WHOSE OWN DEPT KNEW OF AND ABOUT THIS GUY WENT ON NATIONAL TV AND CLAIMED IT WAS RADIO AND TV COMMENTATORS COMMENTS....IF YOU CAN'T SEE THAT THIS IS THE LEFT AND THE LEFT ALONE CREATING AND SPINNING THIS SHIT...AND THE RIGHT IS TRYING TO DEFEND THEIR HONOR...THEN YOU ARE STUCK ON STUPID

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 10, 2011 02:15 PM (eOXTH)

243 Politico has the poll "Should there be stricter gun control laws" on this page (scroll down it's on the right side of the page near the bottom)

Posted by: curious at January 10, 2011 02:16 PM (p302b)

244 Let's blame this sheriff who received numerous tips that Jared Loughner
had been making death threats by phone to many people in
Pima County including staff of Pima Community College, radio
personalities and local bloggers, but chose to ignore them, trusting
that his mother, a state Parks and Recreations employee who had no idea
her son had a camping tent in the backyard full of skulls, rotten
oranges and potting soil, had the situation firmly in hand. How about
this useless cop dummies up with a donut before he starts policing our
free speech? Before we start banning Target stores, how about Big Sis
and these overpaid bureaucrats who leech off our tax dollars start doing
their jobs?

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 10, 2011 02:16 PM (mHQ7T)

245 @231 Note that the city is misspelled as "TUSCON".

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at January 10, 2011 02:16 PM (9eDbm)

246 I don't think there is anything we can do except stand firm. These are the kind of comments on yahoo:
I'll never forget when I was watching FoxNews during the presidential campaign. Palin was giving her stump speech in some small town during the closing weeks of the campaign. Making a snide reference to the fact that Obama's black, Palin said:"He's not like you and me..." In reply, a shout rang out from the crowd:"Kill him."She smiled, and continued with her speech.Palin may not be responsible for this tragedy, but it's not for lack of trying.
These idiots are just delusional. They hear things that aren't there, they remember things that didn't happen, they link things that don't link, they are full out nuts, they are not rational. They live in a little fantasy world that doesn't even live in the same solar system as ours.

Posted by: dagny at January 10, 2011 02:17 PM (+Z6ve)

247 Conservatives like to argue that these are isolated incidents carried
out by lunatics and therefore carry no big lessons (unless the
perpetrator is Muslim, in which case it’s terrorism); liberals view them
as opportunities to address various social ills. Obama is in the latter
category and should act accordingly. “You never want a serious crisis
to go to waste,” Rahm Emanuel famously said in 2008. The same goes for a
shooting spree that gravely wounds a beloved congresswoman. Congress
won’t enact gun control, as it did in the wake of the assassinations of
Martin Luther King and Robert F. Kennedy in 1968, but perhaps something
positive can come from this.

You, sir, are an ass. Conservatives don't argue that these are isolated incidents and carry no big lessons. And we don't isolate muslims, either asshole. We argue that it's NOT GOVERNMENT'S JOB to address 'social ills' as you put it. Rahm absolutely meant that in order to take away liberties guaranteed by God and the Constitution, you need to strike while people are in fear. Exactly what would you like to see come of this tragedy? Rush Limbaugh silenced? Fox News taken off the air? Guns removed from the public shelves? What is your goal, douchebag?

Remember, an unarmed citizen is a peasant.

Posted by: Sponge © at January 10, 2011 02:17 PM (UK9cE)

248 Beat Kennedy! (Oh, wait, too violent.)Crush Kerry!(No...)Whip Pelosi!(Oh, heck...)Appropriate Neutral Terms:
Surpass
Outpoll
Elect(Republican candidate's name here)
Inspiring, eh?(not)

Posted by: Speller at January 10, 2011 02:19 PM (J74Py)

249 If there's one thing that Beck has been right about for a long time, it's the fact that the left has to goad us into acts of violence. He's said time after time that we're being set up and that the statists will keep slapping us until we finally hit back. And that's all they think theyneed to facilitate a violent revolution.

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2011 02:19 PM (B1tDt)

250 #234
So Congress willmake a law restricting content of political speech, a prior restraint if you will, based on a "could be perceived" test?
Sounds fine to us.

Posted by: Kagan and Sotomayor at January 10, 2011 02:20 PM (sOtz/)

251 I'm starting to get the impression that lefties are habitual liars, inherently criminal, and need to be locked up.

Posted by: Fritz at January 10, 2011 02:20 PM (GwPRU)

252 Somewhat OT:

Karl Denninger, non Republican financial guy at Market Ticker, has been calling out Krugman for the past few days regarding the fact that he's been blaming this on the tea party.

Today, in another stunner, Denninger links to a Michelle Malkin post on liberal hate.

Posted by: shibumi at January 10, 2011 02:21 PM (OKZrE)

253 Ya know who else seems to have a bit of a hard on over this? Charles Johnson, thats who........
You want to see full retard? step into THAT latrine....I think i may have to finally deploy my throw-away account

Posted by: dirk.steed at January 10, 2011 02:21 PM (XeBlF)

254 Ya know who else seems to have a bit of a hard on over this? Charles Johnson, thats who........
You want to see full retard? step into THAT latrine....I think i may have to finally deploy my throw-away account


I haven't been on that site in a few years. Wonder if my account is still active?

Posted by: Sponge © at January 10, 2011 02:24 PM (UK9cE)

255 Bonehead and all the "both sides do it" people can get in an ordered anarchy single file line to kiss my rebel dick.

There isn't a "both sides do it" leg to stand on here, so quit waving your Harry Potter wand around looking for one.

The blood wasn't even dry and the lefty bastards were planning the fucking campaign.

The left has a box of stories and ads that reads

"In case of mass murder, break glass"

Jesus, the funerals haven't even started.


Posted by: sifty does not dial back shit at January 10, 2011 02:25 PM (Evsno)

256 Apparently it was no secret this kid was crazy and numerous people sent up red flags, specifically thinking he was the sort of kid who might be a spree killer. The sheriff is doing the most despicable form of blame-shifting with allies in the MFM andparanoid-styled Left of course.

Posted by: Beagle at January 10, 2011 02:26 PM (sOtz/)

257 "We have quite a bit of ammunition, courtesy of the left's own derangement."

Thanks, BackwardsBoy.

As much contempt as I have for the teleprompter, I default to wanting the office that piece of shit is soiling to be strong for the good of this country.

As he makes more clear the damage that he is willing to do to this country by his own words and actions for whatever his agenda may be, the uncertain risks attending the damage the office would suffer from throwing his own words back into his face begins to look like the safer course.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at January 10, 2011 02:26 PM (xJVlJ)

258 Posted by: dagny at January 10, 2011 02:17 PM (+Z6ve)
A galaxy ofstupid awaits all who dare enter a Yahoo comments section.
Weep, republic...and all that.

Posted by: Burn the Witch at January 10, 2011 02:27 PM (fLHQe)

259 The Supreme Court has roundly rejected Prior Restraint.

I'm finishing my coffee.

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at January 10, 2011 02:27 PM (Evsno)

260 "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,”

If a conservative had said this in response to Obama, not only would lefties be howling about the violent metaphor, but they'd be screaming "racism" for reviving the stereotype of black men carrying knives.
But as it was Obama who said it, no problem on either score.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at January 10, 2011 02:27 PM (sROP7)

261 258 Not only are they insane they don't even know the difference between "there" and "their". It's like watching a train wreck.

Posted by: dagny at January 10, 2011 02:34 PM (+Z6ve)

262 @241Islamic Rage Boy link
Or grammar mind control. When I was looking for another weird crank shooter motivation to list, that one would have been handy.
Bet hewas a Truther.

Posted by: Beagle at January 10, 2011 02:38 PM (sOtz/)

263 I think, for the near future, all of this rests on what Dear Leader says. If he comes out neutral and tells everyone to wait until the investigation is done, then I will, for the first time, applaud him. If not, then I will without reserveaccuse him of trying to make this his "Reichtag" moment. The nation is as dry asdrought-blasted prairie grass right now and it would take only a spark to setthe leftards off right now. We shall see.

Posted by: Soona at January 10, 2011 02:41 PM (B1tDt)

264 Conservatives like to argue that these are isolated incidents carried out by lunatics and therefore carry no big lessons (unless the perpetrator is Muslim, in which case it’s terrorism); liberals view them as opportunities to address various social ills.

This is a typical leftist half-truth. Actually, it's a complete lie, but it's actually as close as the left can manage to come to the truth.

Conservatives judge each event by the facts of the event - whether it's a crazy shooter, explicitly politically-motivated, or whether the killer expresses a religious motivation. Which is why they (usually) don't rush to judgment and start pushing an irrelevant political response. The response is less muted in the case of Islamically-motivated violence because it happens more often and is usually "declared."

Liberals react instantaneously in pushing their agenda because they don't care about the facts of the case - the facts don't matter, it's their own agenda they care about. The "don't rush to judgment" response to obvious Islamically-motivated violence is part of the agenda of "multiculturalism" and the presumption that it's the West that's to blame. The bare coverage of leftist violence is just CYA.

Alter is part of that agenda, a dishonest purveyor, a hypocrite.

Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at January 10, 2011 03:06 PM (bxiXv)

265 I better go get me a gun.

Posted by: gunless american at January 10, 2011 03:34 PM (0AkWH)

266 This horrific event offers the president a chance to show leadership qualities that he’s inexplicably hidden away in some blind trust.


What will it take for these idiots to figure out he has no leadership qualities? What will it take for them to understand he's a child in an adult's position, a theoretician and academic out of his depth and unequipped for the job?

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at January 10, 2011 03:38 PM (61b7k)

267 This is plain old crass political opportunism

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at January 10, 2011 07:32 PM (tvs2p)

268 This article line pretty much sums up how much of a pickle Liberals are in, the only thing they can hope for to turn things around for them is a "serious tragedy" that Obama can use to turn things around.

Here is the funny thing that serious event already came and went...it was called the BP oil spill. The recipe was there for a total liberal public affairs coup.

It had everything they wanted in a serious event, an evil oil company causing a ecological disaster. This should have been XMAS the left's agenda and Obama. But he managed to screw that one up and make Him look even worse.

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