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Feds Dropped Investigation Into Hassan Because He Didn't Seem Violent; Figured, I Guess, He Would Merely Provide Al Qaeda With Military Secrets and Troop Information and the Like, So No Bigs, Really
He wasn't "likely to be violent." Um, spectacularly wrong, as it turns out; but when spies contact the enemy, do we routinely drop investigations of them based on their propensity for violence?
Most spies aren't violent. They do cause the deaths of Americans, however. But this guy got a pass. Pardon me if I believe like 75% of all Americans that was because it's apparently now illegal and unconstitutional to investigate a Muslim for criminal activity. Could produce "backlash," you see. The lesson of 9/11, it turns out, is "take a wait and see attitude." Once there are bodies on the ground, well, Detective, you've got your proof.George W. Bush just emailed me, asking where the apologies from the media are for blaming him for eight years for failing to have "connected the dots." Chris Matthews: "It's not a crime to call Al Qaeda, is it? I mean, where do you stop the guy?" Matthews spins on behalf of his wannabe-boyfriend Obama and the incompetents in the federal government. Funny, seems to me that after 9/11, National Security Concern Trolls like Chris Matthews were pretty sure we should have rolled up the Mohammad Atta cell based upon pilot-training inquiries. But now we have a guy in the army calling Al Qaeda on the phone and Chris Matthews is generally perplexed as to what we could have possibly have done to stop this. Um, in any security position, having or attempting to have communications with the enemy is a crime, or at least a cashiering-level offense, if it's not reported immediately. Since this guy, presumably, did not report to his superior officers Hey guys, by the way, and apropos of nothing, I've been drunk-dialing al-Zarqawi, just f.y.i., right there is a reason to send him to the brig. Iowahawk: Presents the news the way the leftwing media wanted to report it, and pretty much almost did. But not quite: Inevitbly, Another Soldier Snaps Investigation: Ft. Hood Killer Had Access to Fox, Talk Radio, and Right-Wing Blogs
Defiant Palin Refuses to Apologize Almost though. Incidentally, I now have a perfect defense to the crime of murder: Because I heard about this motherfucker's rampage on TV, I too have secondary PTSD by proxy. In a way, you can say that I, too, am a casualty of this illegal war of choice. And you can say that about my victim, too, if you like.
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Would YOU want to risk investigating this mutt if the odds are you would be prosecuted by that cocksucker Holder for doing so?
Would YOU want to risk investigating this mutt if the odds are you would be prosecuted by that cocksucker Holder for doing so?
Posted by: Dang Straights at November 09, 2009 09:08 PM (VTAo+)
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Words fail me
Posted by: Secundus at November 09, 2009 09:09 PM (1tgbG)
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I trust the individual(s) who declared him non-violent is probably feeling absolutely awful, so I won't pile on. I'll also trust that individual(s) and will never be allowed such decisions again.
Posted by: The Hammer at November 09, 2009 09:10 PM (YBTwf)
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I wasn't likely to be violent either.
Posted by: Ted Kaczynski at November 09, 2009 09:10 PM (4X3d1)
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Horse Pucky.
Posted by: Dale in San Antonio(Not Dave!) at November 09, 2009 09:10 PM (sXEVG)
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They had to move Hassan to a football stadium to make room for the ACLU lawyers provided by obamao to defend him.
Posted by: Mike W at November 09, 2009 09:10 PM (7QO3K)
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Great, just great.
Posted by: the plot thickens, and No One Could Have Forseen on That Day That German Ally America Would Be Led B at November 09, 2009 09:11 PM (PD1tk)
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Jamie Gorelick couldn't be reached for comment.
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 09, 2009 09:12 PM (erIg9)
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Is it insane to suggest that that the President favors a "hands off" approach to possible Muslim terrorists, so the FBI just swept it under the rug?
Or maybe Obama just hates white America so much he doesn't care who kills them.
Or maybe Obama just hates white America so much he doesn't care who kills them.
Posted by: shibumi at November 09, 2009 09:12 PM (OKZrE)
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I trust the individual(s) who declared him non-violent is probably
feeling absolutely awful, so I won't pile on. I'll also trust that
individual(s) and will never be allowed such decisions again.
No, he/she will be promoted to a Cabinet or prestigious Czar position. Actions have consequences...NOT!
feeling absolutely awful, so I won't pile on. I'll also trust that
individual(s) and will never be allowed such decisions again.
No, he/she will be promoted to a Cabinet or prestigious Czar position. Actions have consequences...NOT!
Posted by: The BEAR who eats jihadists at November 09, 2009 09:12 PM (PBGAP)
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He wasn't "likely to be violent."
Didn't they notice he was getting additional weapons training, more than you'd expect from a shrink?
From MM a few days ago:
U.S. Rep. Michael McCaul, a Republican from Austin, was briefed by
military officials and said Hasan had taken some unusual classes for
someone studying about mental health.
“He took a lot of extra classes in weapons training, which seems a little odd for a psychiatrist,” McCaul said.
Didn't they notice he was getting additional weapons training, more than you'd expect from a shrink?
From MM a few days ago:
U.S. Rep. Michael McCaul, a Republican from Austin, was briefed by
military officials and said Hasan had taken some unusual classes for
someone studying about mental health.
“He took a lot of extra classes in weapons training, which seems a little odd for a psychiatrist,” McCaul said.
Posted by: Y-not at November 09, 2009 09:12 PM (sey23)
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There has to be a paper trail on this travesty, as well as verbal testimony that could be obtained from patients he "treated.", other doctors, etc.
I want to know how this happened and who is responsible.
I want to know how this happened and who is responsible.
Posted by: Miss Marple at November 09, 2009 09:13 PM (UQado)
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Diversity demands equal representation of the enemy in the military. I just love diversity.
Posted by: General Casey at November 09, 2009 09:13 PM (nbxDI)
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I see that the investigators are already saying that he was working alone. Man, that was quick.
Posted by: Countrysquire at November 09, 2009 09:13 PM (ZIl4N)
Posted by: Dang Straights at November 09, 2009 09:13 PM (VTAo+)
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Pardon me if I believe like 75% of all Americans that was because it's
apparently now illegal and unconstitutional to investigate a Muslim for
criminal activity
Yeah, and that too.
/what if every American "claimed" to be Muslim? Would that mean that no one would ever be prosecuted? Interesting thought, isn't it?
apparently now illegal and unconstitutional to investigate a Muslim for
criminal activity
Yeah, and that too.
/what if every American "claimed" to be Muslim? Would that mean that no one would ever be prosecuted? Interesting thought, isn't it?
Posted by: shibumi at November 09, 2009 09:13 PM (OKZrE)
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What "investigation" do you need for a guy who has "Slave of Allah SWT" on his official Army visit card?
He practically came to work wearing Taliban turban and could as well show his patients beheading videos in the waiting room with every single General in charge loving him for being a living, breathing display of diversity tm.
Charge the asshole Generals with Negligent Homicide and demote them to privates. And make them pay the lawsuit from their pocket. And if ANY goverment official shoved his nose here - try him for high treason and hang him from the CN tower.
He practically came to work wearing Taliban turban and could as well show his patients beheading videos in the waiting room with every single General in charge loving him for being a living, breathing display of diversity tm.
Charge the asshole Generals with Negligent Homicide and demote them to privates. And make them pay the lawsuit from their pocket. And if ANY goverment official shoved his nose here - try him for high treason and hang him from the CN tower.
Posted by: Juicer at November 09, 2009 09:14 PM (UOGPF)
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The mind. It boggles.
Posted by: tdpwells at November 09, 2009 09:14 PM (Ei3oZ)
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*snorts* accountability...transparency...wing and a prayer..add salt to taste, you know? 
Posted by: Dale in San Antonio(Not Dave!) at November 09, 2009 09:14 PM (sXEVG)
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Once there are bodies on the ground, well, Detective, you've got your proof.
Yeah - Good luck with that, DE-tec-tive.
Yeah - Good luck with that, DE-tec-tive.
Posted by: OJ Simpson at November 09, 2009 09:14 PM (YX6i/)
Posted by: President Manchild at November 09, 2009 09:14 PM (tahIV)
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@12
Why on God's green earth was this man allowed any where near battle-fatigued soldiers when everyone around him knew he hated them for "waging a war against Islam?"
Why on God's green earth was this man allowed any where near battle-fatigued soldiers when everyone around him knew he hated them for "waging a war against Islam?"
Posted by: Y-not at November 09, 2009 09:15 PM (sey23)
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You know, sedition is still on the books. One doesn't have to be violent to be guilty of a terrible crime.
Posted by: alexthechick at November 09, 2009 09:15 PM (rfBP3)
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Let's say it one more time.... In time of war, Political Correctness causes deaths and destruction when enemies are allowed to operate without hindrance.
Posted by: exdem13 at November 09, 2009 09:15 PM (lYKj1)
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I've been getting headaches every night lately.The depression or a brain tumor?
Posted by: steevy at November 09, 2009 09:16 PM (UN89u)
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'sup Dave. LTNS
Aww..I thought I made the distinction between Dave and myself!
Aww..I thought I made the distinction between Dave and myself!
Posted by: Dale in San Antonio(Not Dave!) at November 09, 2009 09:16 PM (sXEVG)
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Do they have general population in military prisons or are the guys all housed separately?
Posted by: Y-not asking a purely innocuous question at November 09, 2009 09:16 PM (sey23)
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Posted by: jason at November 09, 2009 09:17 PM (i1eiU)
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14--Of course it was quick. It's not like they had to do any investigation after the fact, to determine his motive or anything; they KNEW all that already.
Posted by: Secundus at November 09, 2009 09:17 PM (1tgbG)
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You know, sedition is still on the books. One doesn't have to be violent to be guilty of a terrible crime.
Posted by: alexthechick at November 09, 2009 09:15 PM (rfBP3)
Oh yeah, seditions, baby!
Posted by: alexthechick at November 09, 2009 09:15 PM (rfBP3)
Oh yeah, seditions, baby!
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Posted by: In the end Capitalism will be replaced by jason at November 09, 2009 09:17 PM (sey23)
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I personnaly could give a rats ass if the investigators feel "bad" dropping the investigation. These jerkwads need to be strung up as well. This is a country gone totally jailhouse fucking nuts. How many more "sleepers" are there, serving in our military? Sweet jumpin Jesus, let's not ask, let's not probe. Israel has it right, they know who wears bombs around their waists, they know who sends their kids in strapped with bombs, they know who does this kind ofshit, and the don't play fucking games with them. We suck, and it's gunna get worse.
Posted by: Sparky at November 09, 2009 09:18 PM (mXY2a)
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All the signs are, Obama has brought us full circle right back to 9/10/2001.
If you live in a major urban area like New York, I would recommend getting the hell out in favor of out-of-the-way suburbs.
Clearly, it's only a matter of time before we read stories of why the 50,000 victims didn't have to die, if only the FBI and CIA and Pentagon had decided it was time to wonder why 19 Muslims were all taking courses on how to pilot tankers full of liquid oxygen into harbors without bothering to learn how to dock.
I'm sure there will be nifty little Blue Ribbon Reports about it and all, but Jesus: wouldn't it be nice if those 50,000 won't HAVE to die?
If you live in a major urban area like New York, I would recommend getting the hell out in favor of out-of-the-way suburbs.
Clearly, it's only a matter of time before we read stories of why the 50,000 victims didn't have to die, if only the FBI and CIA and Pentagon had decided it was time to wonder why 19 Muslims were all taking courses on how to pilot tankers full of liquid oxygen into harbors without bothering to learn how to dock.
I'm sure there will be nifty little Blue Ribbon Reports about it and all, but Jesus: wouldn't it be nice if those 50,000 won't HAVE to die?
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 09, 2009 09:18 PM (QECjC)
Posted by: the slide of civilization at November 09, 2009 09:18 PM (9X3KM)
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An Islamic radical who tries to contact al Qaeda, supports suicide bombers and the killers of Americans and went to Mosque with the 9/11 hijackers. . .
No. No potential for violence there.
No. No potential for violence there.
Posted by: Z Ryan at November 09, 2009 09:18 PM (cMo6P)
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23
You know, sedition is still on the books. One doesn't have to be violent to be guilty of a terrible crime.
Oh come on.
Those rules only apply to Republicans and their ilk.
There is no way a Democrat or a favored group (aka Muslims) will ever, EVER be tried for anything like that. EVER.
I'm waiting for the cadre of psychiatrists to come out, and declare he is utterly insane. The whole matter will be swept under the table, and the Major will be retired and sent someone nice, like Bermuda. On our dime.
You know, sedition is still on the books. One doesn't have to be violent to be guilty of a terrible crime.
Oh come on.
Those rules only apply to Republicans and their ilk.
There is no way a Democrat or a favored group (aka Muslims) will ever, EVER be tried for anything like that. EVER.
I'm waiting for the cadre of psychiatrists to come out, and declare he is utterly insane. The whole matter will be swept under the table, and the Major will be retired and sent someone nice, like Bermuda. On our dime.
Posted by: shibumi at November 09, 2009 09:19 PM (OKZrE)
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Do they have general population in military prisons or are the guys all housed separately?
Tend to think this mutt (with the admins blessing) will be tried in civilian court, rather than courts martial. In any case assuming by some miracle they actually convict, he would end up in federal prision either way. Military that f*cks up goes to federal.
Do they have general population in military prisons or are the guys all housed separately?
Tend to think this mutt (with the admins blessing) will be tried in civilian court, rather than courts martial. In any case assuming by some miracle they actually convict, he would end up in federal prision either way. Military that f*cks up goes to federal.
Posted by: Dang Straights at November 09, 2009 09:19 PM (VTAo+)
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As I posted earlier today, if this is determined a criminal action, the Army will be writing LARGE checks for negligence and lack of over-site and control measures to protect innocents.
To avoid such check-writing, they have to determine it was an act of war.
Choices are good, aren't they.
To avoid such check-writing, they have to determine it was an act of war.
Choices are good, aren't they.
Posted by: The Hammer at November 09, 2009 09:19 PM (YBTwf)
40
King Barry assured us that once the investigations were complete, steps would be taken to make sure this doesn't happen again.
You all know what those "steps" will be;
Anger management classes for all personnel
Stress counseling
Sensitivity training so that the muzzies won't get any comments or dirty looks that upset them to the point of murdering fellow service personnel
Oh, and a big fat apology to the muslim community and promises to be more understanding.
You all know what those "steps" will be;
Anger management classes for all personnel
Stress counseling
Sensitivity training so that the muzzies won't get any comments or dirty looks that upset them to the point of murdering fellow service personnel
Oh, and a big fat apology to the muslim community and promises to be more understanding.
Posted by: kbdabear at November 09, 2009 09:20 PM (sYxEE)
Posted by: Secundus at November 09, 2009 09:20 PM (1tgbG)
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Posted by: CoolCzech at November 09, 2009 09:18 PM (QECjC)
Comforting, ain't it? My dad works at one of the top ten terrorist targets.
Comforting, ain't it? My dad works at one of the top ten terrorist targets.
Posted by: tdpwells at November 09, 2009 09:20 PM (Ei3oZ)
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Where are we going?And what are we doing in this handbasket?
Posted by: Secundus at November 09, 2009 09:20 PM (1tgbG)
Paris.
Posted by: Secundus at November 09, 2009 09:20 PM (1tgbG)
Paris.
Posted by: Editor at November 09, 2009 09:21 PM (YX6i/)
44
41
Where are we going?
And what are we doing in this handbasket?
Posted by: Secundus at November 09, 2009 09:20 PM (1tgbG)
Can't quite make out this sign along the highway...
Where are we going?
And what are we doing in this handbasket?
Posted by: Secundus at November 09, 2009 09:20 PM (1tgbG)
Can't quite make out this sign along the highway...
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 09, 2009 09:21 PM (erIg9)
45
34
All the signs are, Obama has brought us full circle right back to 9/10/2001.
Actually, I think we could investigate Muslims pre 9/11. Now its pretty much against the law.
They indeed have won.
The 52% elected an appeaser who will indeed take us to hell. And that's the best case scenario.
All the signs are, Obama has brought us full circle right back to 9/10/2001.
Actually, I think we could investigate Muslims pre 9/11. Now its pretty much against the law.
They indeed have won.
The 52% elected an appeaser who will indeed take us to hell. And that's the best case scenario.
Posted by: shibumi at November 09, 2009 09:21 PM (OKZrE)
Posted by: the slide of civilization at November 09, 2009 09:21 PM (ouySy)
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The Obama administration, the DemSM, and the FBI can try all they want to convince us that this was anything but a jihadist attack, but Al Qaeda knows what it was and now knows what King Barry's reaction will be.
They now know they have nothing to fear from this empty suit after an attack on Americans anywhere, including inside America.
They now know they have nothing to fear from this empty suit after an attack on Americans anywhere, including inside America.
Posted by: kbdabear at November 09, 2009 09:22 PM (sYxEE)
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The Hammer wrote @ 3,
I trust the individual(s) who declared him non-violent is probably
feeling absolutely awful, so I won't pile on. I'll also trust that
individual(s) and will never be allowed such decisions again.
What, and start a backlash against incompetents?
I trust the individual(s) who declared him non-violent is probably
feeling absolutely awful, so I won't pile on. I'll also trust that
individual(s) and will never be allowed such decisions again.
What, and start a backlash against incompetents?
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at November 09, 2009 09:22 PM (tPZUr)
49
Where are we going?And what are we doing in this handbasket?Posted by: Secundus at November 09, 2009 09:20 PM (1tgbG)Can't quite make out this sign along the highway...
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage
It probably said "fireworks factory."
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage
It probably said "fireworks factory."
Posted by: Z Ryan at November 09, 2009 09:22 PM (cMo6P)
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So does anyone know how long this dude was on the FBI's radar? Who has the authority to call off something like that and who made the decision not to communicate this information to the military? Holder? Anyone? I don't know about you, but my blood has been boiling for days now. This P.C. crap (and that's what it is) is going to get a whole lot of people killed. It already has, and there will be more innocent victims who will be dead because of the vile agenda of the left. Thanks a lot 52%!
Posted by: runningrn at November 09, 2009 09:23 PM (qP2BK)
51
He didn't seem "violent-violent".
Posted by: Whoopi at November 09, 2009 09:24 PM (4iIhs)
52
OT but Palin is going to be up the street from me on the 20th. I'm pretty stoked, not gonna lie.
Posted by: tdpwells at November 09, 2009 09:24 PM (Ei3oZ)
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You know, sedition is still on the books. One doesn't have to be violent to be guilty of a terrible crime.
Posted by: alexthechick at November 09, 2009 09:15 PM (rfBP3)
Tell me about it.
Posted by: alexthechick at November 09, 2009 09:15 PM (rfBP3)
Tell me about it.
Posted by: Bernie Madoff at November 09, 2009 09:25 PM (VuLos)
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they have nothing to fear from this empty suit after an attack on Americans anywhere, including inside America.
This. Just a matter of when, not if.
they have nothing to fear from this empty suit after an attack on Americans anywhere, including inside America.
This. Just a matter of when, not if.
Posted by: Dang Straights at November 09, 2009 09:25 PM (VTAo+)
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if another major attack hits us i expect a total press blackout and shut down of the internet, not to mention the hit area and the relatives and friends of the dead to be quaratined for the new strain of swine flu that takes 8 years to get rid of and any reporter reporting on what happened to 3000 or more americans will be prosecuted for sedition or just being a domestic homegrown terrorist. grab your prayer mats its going to be a long three more years.
Posted by: x11b1p at November 09, 2009 09:25 PM (K3MWP)
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52
OT but Palin is going to be up the street from me on the 20th. I'm pretty stoked, not gonna lie.
Posted by: tdpwells at November 09, 2009 09:24 PM (Ei3oZ)
She's in town here on the 22nd.
OT but Palin is going to be up the street from me on the 20th. I'm pretty stoked, not gonna lie.
Posted by: tdpwells at November 09, 2009 09:24 PM (Ei3oZ)
She's in town here on the 22nd.
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 09, 2009 09:25 PM (erIg9)
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They now know they have nothing to fear from this empty suit after an attack on Americans anywhere, including inside America.
Exactly.
Once again, F.U. 52%
Exactly.
Once again, F.U. 52%
Posted by: shibumi at November 09, 2009 09:26 PM (OKZrE)
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my brother (ret'd career Army) told me that the Army didn't have the death penalty anymore.
'course they can't let the Republic of Texas handle this because it happened on a military installation. And if Holder decides this guy is a terrorist (nah, a radical islamic jihadist, ya think?), then he can try him.
the feds still have the death penalty.
or maybe he can get his swine flu shot head to GITMO.
'course they can't let the Republic of Texas handle this because it happened on a military installation. And if Holder decides this guy is a terrorist (nah, a radical islamic jihadist, ya think?), then he can try him.
the feds still have the death penalty.
or maybe he can get his swine flu shot head to GITMO.
Posted by: kelley in virginia at November 09, 2009 09:26 PM (TEIZr)
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/what if every American "claimed" to be Muslim? Would that mean that no one would ever be prosecuted? Interesting thought, isn't it?
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Hey, shibumi, at the same time we all convert to Islam so we can spy and kill with impunity, don't forget we have to go to Mexico, give up our American citizenship, stroll back across the border, and demand our free healthcare.
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Hey, shibumi, at the same time we all convert to Islam so we can spy and kill with impunity, don't forget we have to go to Mexico, give up our American citizenship, stroll back across the border, and demand our free healthcare.
Posted by: arhooley at November 09, 2009 09:26 PM (jwoys)
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Is it just my computer or has this whole site been shifted to the right side of the screen? I have to keep scrolling to the right to see the full comment.
Posted by: Tami at November 09, 2009 09:27 PM (VuLos)
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58 The military still has a death penalty.
Posted by: steevy at November 09, 2009 09:27 PM (UN89u)
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But the New York Times wants you to know that, statistically, Hasan was hardly ever homicidal.
Posted by: Truman North at November 09, 2009 09:28 PM (XH/G8)
63
I haven't had the chance to comment until now, but this whole affair is disgusting. The death of those innocent people is horribly sad, but the real outrage is that this could have been prevented if only some people had used even 2 of their brain cells.
This man who expressed such hatred for America and a willingness to do her harm was still kept AND PROMOTED in the Army. I hope the people who did not do the only sensible thing and eject this man from the Army know that they have the blood of over a dozen people on their hands.
Then you have the people who are making excuses for this scum and trying to hide the fact that this was Islamofascist terrorism. The liberal mind is truly perverted.
It is these same people that make excuses for terrorists - oh, I'm sorry - freedom fighters beheading and blowing up not just Americans but their own people while railing against members of the US military who are doing their utmost to protect lives.
The same people who are willing to sacrifice the lives of hundreds or thousands of people so that some worthless jihadist isn't slightly inconvenienced.
The same people who always take the side of the criminal, never the victim. (As long as the criminal isn't a white male, and even then the ACLU would probably be only too eager to defend him.)
Ugh.
This man who expressed such hatred for America and a willingness to do her harm was still kept AND PROMOTED in the Army. I hope the people who did not do the only sensible thing and eject this man from the Army know that they have the blood of over a dozen people on their hands.
Then you have the people who are making excuses for this scum and trying to hide the fact that this was Islamofascist terrorism. The liberal mind is truly perverted.
It is these same people that make excuses for terrorists - oh, I'm sorry - freedom fighters beheading and blowing up not just Americans but their own people while railing against members of the US military who are doing their utmost to protect lives.
The same people who are willing to sacrifice the lives of hundreds or thousands of people so that some worthless jihadist isn't slightly inconvenienced.
The same people who always take the side of the criminal, never the victim. (As long as the criminal isn't a white male, and even then the ACLU would probably be only too eager to defend him.)
Ugh.
Posted by: african chick at November 09, 2009 09:28 PM (VD/+Z)
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I feel so much better now about being delayed and searched at airports. Mustn't profile, mustn't engage brain, mustn't question...
I might be a violent threat.
I might be a violent threat.
Posted by: TSA fodder at November 09, 2009 09:28 PM (UaSIe)
65
I would have made sure this fucker couldn't get up after he went down.No info we need from him we didn't get already from his computer and history.
Posted by: steevy at November 09, 2009 09:28 PM (UN89u)
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Feds Dropped Investigation Into Hassan Because He Didn't Seem
Violent; Figured, I Guess, He Would Merely Provide Al Qaeda With
Military Secrets and Troop Information and the Like, So No Bigs, Really
WTF? Are you kidding me? Take your politically correct barrel of monkey shit and shove it in your fucking ass. These supine motherfucking assholes!
Violent; Figured, I Guess, He Would Merely Provide Al Qaeda With
Military Secrets and Troop Information and the Like, So No Bigs, Really
WTF? Are you kidding me? Take your politically correct barrel of monkey shit and shove it in your fucking ass. These supine motherfucking assholes!
Posted by: Richard Simmons at November 09, 2009 09:29 PM (GfYt/)
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the military still has the death penalty from what I read from a Jag Officer's take on this on Red State, apparently the appeals process for it is a guaranteed 20 year wait if in fact the verdict makes it that long.
Posted by: x11b1p at November 09, 2009 09:29 PM (K3MWP)
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60 Is it just my computer or has this whole site been shifted to the right side of the screen? I have to keep scrolling to the right to see the full comment.
Posted by: Tami
Oh, eyah, that always happens to me. Here is what you do:
1) take your monitor and tip it over on its left side.
2) bang the right side (which is on top) hard about three, four times.
3) Problem solved!
Posted by: Tami
Oh, eyah, that always happens to me. Here is what you do:
1) take your monitor and tip it over on its left side.
2) bang the right side (which is on top) hard about three, four times.
3) Problem solved!
Posted by: Truman North at November 09, 2009 09:29 PM (XH/G8)
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OT but Palin is going to be up the street from me on the 20th. I'm pretty stoked, not gonna lie.
Posted by: tdpwells at November 09, 2009 09:24 PM (Ei3oZ)
She's in town here on the 22nd.
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 09, 2009 09:25 PM (erIg9)
Unclefacts, could you summon some town names to these posts? 'Up the street" and 'here' are sometimes hard to find on a map.
Posted by: tdpwells at November 09, 2009 09:24 PM (Ei3oZ)
She's in town here on the 22nd.
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 09, 2009 09:25 PM (erIg9)
Unclefacts, could you summon some town names to these posts? 'Up the street" and 'here' are sometimes hard to find on a map.
Posted by: Tami at November 09, 2009 09:29 PM (VuLos)
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She's in town here on the 22nd.
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How y'all finding out about her appearances? I want to know when she's coming to my town.
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How y'all finding out about her appearances? I want to know when she's coming to my town.
Posted by: arhooley at November 09, 2009 09:30 PM (jwoys)
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Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 09, 2009 09:25 PM (erIg9)
Am totally taking the day off work to stand in line.
But back on topic...Reagan is on TV being a BAMF and showing America how it's done.
Palin is the daughter he wished he had.
Am totally taking the day off work to stand in line.
But back on topic...Reagan is on TV being a BAMF and showing America how it's done.
Palin is the daughter he wished he had.
Posted by: tdpwells at November 09, 2009 09:30 PM (Ei3oZ)
Posted by: Tami at November 09, 2009 09:30 PM (VuLos)
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arhooley, the sked is up on her facebook.
Posted by: tdpwells at November 09, 2009 09:31 PM (Ei3oZ)
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Unclefacts, could you summon some town names to these posts? 'Up the street" and 'here' are sometimes hard to find on a map.
Posted by: Tami at November 09, 2009 09:29 PM (VuLos)
You mean you people don't know where I live? I'm offended. seriously. 22nd is in Henrietta, NY.
Posted by: Tami at November 09, 2009 09:29 PM (VuLos)
You mean you people don't know where I live? I'm offended. seriously. 22nd is in Henrietta, NY.
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 09, 2009 09:31 PM (erIg9)
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What, and start a backlash against incompetents?
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at November 09, 2009 09:22 PM (tPZUr)
+1
What, and start a backlash against incompetents?
Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at November 09, 2009 09:22 PM (tPZUr)
+1
Posted by: Che Pizza at November 09, 2009 09:31 PM (4iIhs)
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Since I am a white conservative people assume I am a racist, teabagging extremist that should be pegged by Homeland Security. Okay then I am going to apply the same rules to Muslims. If you are a Muslim I am going to assume you are an Al Queda loving, Jew hating, America hating extremist/terrorist who wants to kill me and my family and quite frankly will run over you with my big SUV if I have the chance, so fuck off. If your Black or Hispanic I will assume you are are drug dealing gangbanger who will probably rob, rape and murder me the first chance you get, so fuck off. Did I cover everyone now? Let me know if I missed any ethnic group I wouldn't want anyone to feel left out.
Posted by: MPFS Indentured Fish Stick to the State at November 09, 2009 09:32 PM (PBGAP)
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I want to know how this happened and who is responsible.
Posted by: Miss Marple at November 09, 2009 09:13 PM (UQado)
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So does Joe Lieberman. But given the current climate, I think it's up to Breitbart TV rather than the U.S. Senate.
Posted by: Miss Marple at November 09, 2009 09:13 PM (UQado)
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So does Joe Lieberman. But given the current climate, I think it's up to Breitbart TV rather than the U.S. Senate.
Posted by: arhooley at November 09, 2009 09:32 PM (jwoys)
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I don't think anyplace in America is safe at this point. Sure, they'd love to hit the big cities, but now they see that they can easily get away with smaller attacks. Imagine a whole bunch of these type attacks, oh say around a holiday at various shopping malls around the US.
Tom Clancy was a future time traveler and we never knew it.
Tom Clancy was a future time traveler and we never knew it.
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at November 09, 2009 09:32 PM (RZ8pf)
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Reagan is on TV being a BAMF and showing America how it's done.
Palin is the daughter he wished he had.
Posted by: tdpwells at November 09, 2009 09:30 PM (Ei3oZ)
Instead, I got Ron, Jr.
That's what I get for doing Nancy next to the microwave.
Palin is the daughter he wished he had.
Posted by: tdpwells at November 09, 2009 09:30 PM (Ei3oZ)
Instead, I got Ron, Jr.
That's what I get for doing Nancy next to the microwave.
Posted by: Zombie Ronald Reagan at November 09, 2009 09:32 PM (QECjC)
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This hurts my brain. Seriously, what the hell is wrong with these people? He tried to contact FUCKING Al Queda. How many red flags do you need?
If you need me, I'll be in the angry dome.
If you need me, I'll be in the angry dome.
Posted by: experience smeperience at November 09, 2009 09:32 PM (Qh9s8)
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Fish Stick, I think you missed the asians that'll steal your pets for dinners.
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 09, 2009 09:33 PM (erIg9)
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I'll also trust that individual(s) and will never be allowed such decisions again.
You're more trusting than I am.
You're more trusting than I am.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 09, 2009 09:34 PM (9OFZV)
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I say we recruit pork-eating atheist lesbians to be his guards. And his execution tie-down team. And the doctor that sticks the needle in his arm.
Posted by: Secundus at November 09, 2009 09:34 PM (1tgbG)
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But the New York Times wants you to know that, statistically, Hasan was hardly ever homicidal.
Yeah. He was only homicidal for about 5 minutes. Lighten up everyone.
Yeah. He was only homicidal for about 5 minutes. Lighten up everyone.
Posted by: Che Pizza at November 09, 2009 09:34 PM (4iIhs)
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Ah thank you Unclefacts. If they touch my goldie they are dead and I mean dead.
Posted by: MPFS Indentured Fish Stick to the State at November 09, 2009 09:35 PM (PBGAP)
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Hey, shibumi, at the same time we all convert to Islam so we can spy
and kill with impunity, don't forget we have to go to Mexico, give up
our American citizenship, stroll back across the border, and demand our
free healthcare.
I like how you think arhooley!
But don't forget, we also get lifetime welfare if we become Mexicans. You totally don't want to forget that.
/wish I was being sarcastic....
and kill with impunity, don't forget we have to go to Mexico, give up
our American citizenship, stroll back across the border, and demand our
free healthcare.
I like how you think arhooley!
But don't forget, we also get lifetime welfare if we become Mexicans. You totally don't want to forget that.
/wish I was being sarcastic....
Posted by: shibumi at November 09, 2009 09:35 PM (OKZrE)
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When our actions do not, Our fears do make us traitors.
Posted by: toby92 at November 09, 2009 09:36 PM (PD1tk)
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Since we don't do color coded alerts anymore... I'd like to announce that over the last few days mine has reached "incandescent"... tea party folks are extremist, but let's not jump to conclusions about a radical muslim-- with an electronic and mosque trail even Napolitano could follow if she weren't too busy worrying about anyone but Americans being killed-- who not just tried to convert people to Islam while counseling them, then murdered our troops on home soil in cold blood. I didn't expect a whole lot from this Presidency, but really... who the fuck are these people? (pardon the language but see above noted color code.)
Posted by: jules at November 09, 2009 09:36 PM (ZA2Zb)
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Yeah, so anyways... I was thinkin' on going to the T-day parade in NYC. Anybody wanna carpool?
Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at November 09, 2009 09:37 PM (hCQG5)
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The last time we've executed a spy was the Rosenburgs in 1953.
Being kind to the cruel is cruel to the kind. We've lost our instinct for the preservation of our society.
Being kind to the cruel is cruel to the kind. We've lost our instinct for the preservation of our society.
Posted by: Cincinnatus at November 09, 2009 09:37 PM (f4sLg)
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This man who expressed such hatred for America and a willingness to do her harm was still kept AND PROMOTED in the Army.
Come on, it's not like he was watching Glen Beck or listening to Rush Limbaugh, going to Tea Parties or any other truly threatening, scary activity we have to watch.
Come on, it's not like he was watching Glen Beck or listening to Rush Limbaugh, going to Tea Parties or any other truly threatening, scary activity we have to watch.
Posted by: Pentagon Human Resources Dept at November 09, 2009 09:38 PM (sYxEE)
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It is possible that the CIA was running this guy out of sight to see where he would lead them...and it went badly wrong. Now you have ass coverage in 6th gear. Don't put anything past the guys. There are wheels within wheels and they'll never take the fall. This guy gets buried in Florence Colorado and then executed...just like McVie.
Posted by: torabora at November 09, 2009 09:38 PM (7iv2W)
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"Chris Matthews: "It's not a crime to call Al Qaeda, is it? I mean, where do you stop the guy?" "
I'm pretty sure it is, you fucking moron. But we'd have to check. How's about you, Chris Matthews, call Al Qaeda, get some pointers on what they do best, and I'll have the FBI on standby to arrest your ass? Because I can guarantee they would.
I'm pretty sure it is, you fucking moron. But we'd have to check. How's about you, Chris Matthews, call Al Qaeda, get some pointers on what they do best, and I'll have the FBI on standby to arrest your ass? Because I can guarantee they would.
Posted by: experience smeperience at November 09, 2009 09:40 PM (Qh9s8)
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Yeah, so anyways... I was thinkin' on going to the T-day parade in NYC. Anybody wanna carpool?
Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at November 09, 2009 09:37 PM (hCQG5)
Will there be a jihadist baloon this year? Must be multi-cultural.
Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at November 09, 2009 09:37 PM (hCQG5)
Will there be a jihadist baloon this year? Must be multi-cultural.
Posted by: MPFS Indentured Fish Stick to the State at November 09, 2009 09:40 PM (PBGAP)
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tea party folks are extremist, but let's not jump to conclusions about a radical muslim
Actually, he called us "tea bag people"... I shit you not. Again. I mean, for God's sake, at least have some decorum and respect for the office, you skinny baby! Argh
Actually, he called us "tea bag people"... I shit you not. Again. I mean, for God's sake, at least have some decorum and respect for the office, you skinny baby! Argh
Posted by: Truman North at November 09, 2009 09:40 PM (XH/G8)
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I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are
bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work or scared of losing
their job. The dollar buys a nickel's work, banks are going bust,
shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter.
Punks are running wild in the
street and there's nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and
there's no end to it. We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food
is unfit to eat, and we sit watching our TV's while some local
newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three
violent crimes, as if that's the way it's supposed to be. We know
things are bad - worse than bad. They're crazy. It's like everything
everywhere is going crazy, so we don't go out anymore.
We sit in the
house, and slowly the world we are living in is getting smaller, and
all we say is, 'Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms.
Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials and I
won't say anything. Just leave us alone.' Well, I'm not gonna leave you
alone. I want you to get mad! I don't want you to protest. I don't want
you to riot - I don't want you to write to your congressman because I
wouldn't know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about
the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the
street. All I know is that first you've got to get mad.
You've got to say, 'I'm a HUMAN BEING, Goddamnit! My life has VALUE!'
So I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your
chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window. Open it,
and stick your head out, and yell, [shouting]
'NO ONE COULD HAVE FORESEEN AMERICA WOULD BE LED BY MAN OF AFRICAN DESCENT!'
I want
you to get up right now, sit up, go to your windows, open them and
stick your head out and yell - 'No one could have foreseen America would be led by man of African descent!' Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta
get mad!... You've got to say, 'No one could have foreseen America would be led by man of African descent!' Then we'll figure out what to do about the
depression and the inflation and the oil crisis. But first get up out
of your chairs, open the window, stick your head out, and yell, and say
it: 'NO ONE COULD HAVE FORESEEN AMERICA WOULD BE LED BY MAN OF AFRICAN DESCENT!'
I don't have to tell you things are bad. Everybody knows things are
bad. It's a depression. Everybody's out of work or scared of losing
their job. The dollar buys a nickel's work, banks are going bust,
shopkeepers keep a gun under the counter.
Punks are running wild in the
street and there's nobody anywhere who seems to know what to do, and
there's no end to it. We know the air is unfit to breathe and our food
is unfit to eat, and we sit watching our TV's while some local
newscaster tells us that today we had fifteen homicides and sixty-three
violent crimes, as if that's the way it's supposed to be. We know
things are bad - worse than bad. They're crazy. It's like everything
everywhere is going crazy, so we don't go out anymore.
We sit in the
house, and slowly the world we are living in is getting smaller, and
all we say is, 'Please, at least leave us alone in our living rooms.
Let me have my toaster and my TV and my steel-belted radials and I
won't say anything. Just leave us alone.' Well, I'm not gonna leave you
alone. I want you to get mad! I don't want you to protest. I don't want
you to riot - I don't want you to write to your congressman because I
wouldn't know what to tell you to write. I don't know what to do about
the depression and the inflation and the Russians and the crime in the
street. All I know is that first you've got to get mad.
You've got to say, 'I'm a HUMAN BEING, Goddamnit! My life has VALUE!'
So I want you to get up now. I want all of you to get up out of your
chairs. I want you to get up right now and go to the window. Open it,
and stick your head out, and yell, [shouting]
'NO ONE COULD HAVE FORESEEN AMERICA WOULD BE LED BY MAN OF AFRICAN DESCENT!'
I want
you to get up right now, sit up, go to your windows, open them and
stick your head out and yell - 'No one could have foreseen America would be led by man of African descent!' Things have got to change. But first, you've gotta
get mad!... You've got to say, 'No one could have foreseen America would be led by man of African descent!' Then we'll figure out what to do about the
depression and the inflation and the oil crisis. But first get up out
of your chairs, open the window, stick your head out, and yell, and say
it: 'NO ONE COULD HAVE FORESEEN AMERICA WOULD BE LED BY MAN OF AFRICAN DESCENT!'
Posted by: Howard Beale at November 09, 2009 09:41 PM (ouySy)
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This mutt is either going to plead insanity (the SRM is already building that case for him) and walk outright; or the trial will drag on until 2012 and then he'll get pardoned by Barack Hussein Obama on his last day in office.
You heard it here first.
This mutt is either going to plead insanity (the SRM is already building that case for him) and walk outright; or the trial will drag on until 2012 and then he'll get pardoned by Barack Hussein Obama on his last day in office.
You heard it here first.
Posted by: Dang Straights at November 09, 2009 09:41 PM (VTAo+)
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Chris Matthews: "It's not a crime to call Al Qaeda, is it? I mean, where do you stop the guy?"
Chris Matthews is a fucking moron. And not the good kind either.
Chris Matthews is a fucking moron. And not the good kind either.
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 09, 2009 09:41 PM (erIg9)
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Think of the Mumbai attack last year. Now they know it's very easy to pull off with nothing but candlelight ceremonies for the dead and calls for tolerance of muslims. Oh, and afterwards it'll be declared "these actions were NOT terrorism"
One crew launching small boats of armed crews from a freighter in NY Bay, and they could shoot up Manhattan before anyone decided what was going on.
One crew launching small boats of armed crews from a freighter in NY Bay, and they could shoot up Manhattan before anyone decided what was going on.
Posted by: kbdabear at November 09, 2009 09:42 PM (sYxEE)
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"Come on, it's not like he was watching Glen Beck or listening to Rush Limbaugh, going to Tea Parties or any other truly threatening, scary activity we have to watch."
Hmmm, that is true. Apparently to be called an extremist after you murder a bunch of people, you have to murder the right KIND of people. Clearly a bunch of right wing extremist Army gun nuts aren't the right ones. Academy Award winners, perhaps? I suggest Clooney. There would be some true gnashing of teeth if we lost that "national treasure."
Hmmm, that is true. Apparently to be called an extremist after you murder a bunch of people, you have to murder the right KIND of people. Clearly a bunch of right wing extremist Army gun nuts aren't the right ones. Academy Award winners, perhaps? I suggest Clooney. There would be some true gnashing of teeth if we lost that "national treasure."
Posted by: experience smeperience at November 09, 2009 09:43 PM (Qh9s8)
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Sure, they'd love to hit the big cities, but now they see that they can
easily get away with smaller attacks. Imagine a whole bunch of these
type attacks, oh say around a holiday at various shopping malls around
the US.
This is what I've been predicting for a few years now. Less splashy, but with with far less risk and planning needed type attacks.
Shooting up a whole mall will get you caught - silently killing random shoppers in a parking lot via garroting, edged weapons, or with a suppressed weapon will allow you to keep killing almost indefinitely if you only do one or two per mall, then move on.
THAT would effectively cripple a large segment of the US retail economy.
easily get away with smaller attacks. Imagine a whole bunch of these
type attacks, oh say around a holiday at various shopping malls around
the US.
This is what I've been predicting for a few years now. Less splashy, but with with far less risk and planning needed type attacks.
Shooting up a whole mall will get you caught - silently killing random shoppers in a parking lot via garroting, edged weapons, or with a suppressed weapon will allow you to keep killing almost indefinitely if you only do one or two per mall, then move on.
THAT would effectively cripple a large segment of the US retail economy.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 09, 2009 09:43 PM (9OFZV)
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Purple, how long until we get our own Christmas shopping mall homicide bomber?
Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 09, 2009 09:44 PM (erIg9)
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Chris Matthews, I'm going to cockpunch you.
Posted by: Daniel Pearl at November 09, 2009 09:44 PM (YX6i/)
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I vote we throw Hasan in a cell with a 500lb guy named Francis who hasn't had a conjugal in a decade, along with a tub of bacon grease, and tell Francis that Valentine's Day just came early.
UCMJ would be down with that, right?
UCMJ would be down with that, right?
Posted by: tdpwells at November 09, 2009 09:45 PM (Ei3oZ)
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"Chris Matthews, I'm going to cockpunch you."
That would work my friend, if we could guarantee Chris Matthews had a penis. I truly doubt it at this point.
That would work my friend, if we could guarantee Chris Matthews had a penis. I truly doubt it at this point.
Posted by: experience smeperience at November 09, 2009 09:46 PM (Qh9s8)
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Islam is a religion of peace.
Posted by: DHS at November 09, 2009 09:46 PM (UN89u)
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arhooley, the sked is up on her facebook.
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Cool, thanks. I guess I'll have to become a Facebooker to follow Sarah.
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Cool, thanks. I guess I'll have to become a Facebooker to follow Sarah.
Posted by: arhooley at November 09, 2009 09:46 PM (jwoys)
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"Chris Matthews: "It's not a crime to call Al Qaeda, is it? I mean, where do you stop the guy?""
Since I no longer have MSNBS, can someone please tell me did that ignorant fool actually say this on his 2-member audience show? Thanks.
Since I no longer have MSNBS, can someone please tell me did that ignorant fool actually say this on his 2-member audience show? Thanks.
Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at November 09, 2009 09:46 PM (ACkhT)
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Remember the jihadi who shot up the ticket counter at LAX?? That wasn't a terrorist attack???
Posted by: torabora at November 09, 2009 09:47 PM (7iv2W)
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He wasn't "likely to be violent."
So the US government considers its trained Army officers incapable of violence?
Really?
That is what they're saying?
So the US government considers its trained Army officers incapable of violence?
Really?
That is what they're saying?
Posted by: Christoph at November 09, 2009 09:47 PM (56Gag)
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silently killing random shoppers in a parking lot via garroting, edged
weapons, or with a suppressed weapon will allow you to keep killing
almost indefinitely if you only do one or two per mall, then move on.
That reminds me, is that piece of shit D.C. sniper dead yet?
silently killing random shoppers in a parking lot via garroting, edged
weapons, or with a suppressed weapon will allow you to keep killing
almost indefinitely if you only do one or two per mall, then move on.
That reminds me, is that piece of shit D.C. sniper dead yet?
Posted by: Dang Straights at November 09, 2009 09:47 PM (VTAo+)
Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at November 09, 2009 09:47 PM (hCQG5)
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I feel so much better now about being delayed and searched at airports.
Yeah.
While Hasan was getting extra weapons training, having internet chats w/ AQ and engraving "SoA(SWT)" on his business cards,
the TSA was pulling my 4 year old niece (wearing an easter dress) out line for an extra examination.
Well done, PC bureaucracy. Well done.
Yeah.
While Hasan was getting extra weapons training, having internet chats w/ AQ and engraving "SoA(SWT)" on his business cards,
the TSA was pulling my 4 year old niece (wearing an easter dress) out line for an extra examination.
Well done, PC bureaucracy. Well done.
Posted by: Che Pizza at November 09, 2009 09:47 PM (4iIhs)
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Where are we going?
And what are we doing in this handbasket?
Posted by: Secundus at November 09, 2009 09:20 PM (1tgbG)
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Can't quite make out this sign along the highway...
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There's some lettering in the paving-stones, though. G o o d i n t e n t i o n s, crossed out and rewritten Why the hell pretend anymore.
And what are we doing in this handbasket?
Posted by: Secundus at November 09, 2009 09:20 PM (1tgbG)
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Can't quite make out this sign along the highway...
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There's some lettering in the paving-stones, though. G o o d i n t e n t i o n s, crossed out and rewritten Why the hell pretend anymore.
Posted by: arhooley at November 09, 2009 09:48 PM (jwoys)
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I can just see Micheal Moore making his sequel to Fahrenheit 911 and we have the first scene of Obama playing golf while Major Hasan attends his favorite Mosque and "drunk dialing" his AQ buddies. Then we see the massacre in Fort Hood and then we see Obama at his Indian meeting and follow up tear jerking shout out and statement about the worst terror attack on US soil since 9/11. We then see a Dr. Phil talking about the terrors of PTSD and especially the pre-PTSD because you saw the Star Wars Prequel trilogy AND you were Muslim. The last scene in words says Blame Bush. The End. Another Oscar Mikey.
Posted by: CDR M at November 09, 2009 09:48 PM (cvmTR)
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Purple, how long until we get our own Christmas shopping mall homicide bomber? Posted by: Unclefacts, Summoner of Bacon, Meteors, and Outrage at November 09, 2009 09:44 PM (erIg9)
The way things are going lately.........................soon.
The way things are going lately.........................soon.
Posted by: Old Hippie Vet at November 09, 2009 09:49 PM (3IZGh)
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I can't walk into a Mall anymore without thinking that it would be the perfect terror target, especially around the Christmas Season: what a way to strike a blow to the US retail economy during a key shopping season, AND a blow against a Christian holiday. Seems like the food court would be THE perfect target.
Of course, it is no long PC to wonder why the Santa ringing the bell outside the Mall is named Ahmed and keeps muttering to himself about the "Infidel" while dialing long distance to Pakistan collect from the public pay phone...
Of course, it is no long PC to wonder why the Santa ringing the bell outside the Mall is named Ahmed and keeps muttering to himself about the "Infidel" while dialing long distance to Pakistan collect from the public pay phone...
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 09, 2009 09:49 PM (QECjC)
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http://bit.ly/1iwK5t
Direct link to the announcement w/cities and dates, should have included earlier, arhooley - my bad.
Direct link to the announcement w/cities and dates, should have included earlier, arhooley - my bad.
Posted by: tdpwells at November 09, 2009 09:49 PM (Ei3oZ)
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Since I no longer have MSNBS, can someone please
tell me did that ignorant fool actually say this on his 2-member
audience show? Thanks.
Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at November 09, 2009 09:46 PM (ACkhT)
Here's the video from Newsbusters:
http://tinyurl.com/yc7nf2o
tell me did that ignorant fool actually say this on his 2-member
audience show? Thanks.
Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at November 09, 2009 09:46 PM (ACkhT)
Here's the video from Newsbusters:
http://tinyurl.com/yc7nf2o
Posted by: Tami at November 09, 2009 09:49 PM (VuLos)
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There was more outrage from the Left about Rush buying a part of the St Louis Rams than there is about a muslim terrorists going on a murder-suicide shooting spree at Ft Hood.
There was more outrage from the Left about Rush buying a part of the St Louis Rams than there is about a muslim terrorists going on a murder-suicide shooting spree at Ft Hood.
Posted by: tweet tells it like it is at November 09, 2009 09:49 PM (ouySy)
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>>
'NO ONE COULD HAVE FORESEEN AMERICA WOULD BE LED BY MAN OF AFRICAN DESCENT!'
Except for, you know, Barack Obama.
He was practicing for it in the mirror the whole time.
'NO ONE COULD HAVE FORESEEN AMERICA WOULD BE LED BY MAN OF AFRICAN DESCENT!'
Except for, you know, Barack Obama.
He was practicing for it in the mirror the whole time.
Posted by: evil midnight bomber what bombs at midnight at November 09, 2009 09:50 PM (hCQG5)
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120
There was more outrage from the Left about Rush buying a part of the St Louis Rams than there is about a muslim terrorists going on a murder-suicide shooting spree at Ft Hood.
Posted by: tweet tells it like it is at November 09, 2009 09:49 PM (ouySy)
Hassan didn't practice Hate Speech, Wingnut!
There was more outrage from the Left about Rush buying a part of the St Louis Rams than there is about a muslim terrorists going on a murder-suicide shooting spree at Ft Hood.
Posted by: tweet tells it like it is at November 09, 2009 09:49 PM (ouySy)
Hassan didn't practice Hate Speech, Wingnut!
Posted by: The Left at November 09, 2009 09:50 PM (QECjC)
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Yeah, there's a plethora of soft targets what with the holidays coming up. Macy's Thanksgiving Parade, Black Friday at shopping malls, any big hospital would be a great target, New Years Fireworks Celebrations, you name it. And yeah, we are definitely more at risk now than we were at this time last year. Fracking unbelievable. How's that hope and change working out for everybody? Once again, I'd like to thank the idiotic 52% that made all of this possible.
Posted by: runningrn at November 09, 2009 09:51 PM (qP2BK)
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"I can't walk into a Mall anymore without thinking that it would be the perfect terror target, especially around the Christmas Season: what a way to strike a blow to the US retail economy during a key shopping season, AND a blow against a Christian holiday. Seems like the food court would be THE perfect target. "
I started doing that after I was in Israel and they pointed out all the vulnerable targets we have in the US. Now I see them everywhere.
Then again, everytime I see one of those clueless college kids wearing a keffiyeh, I flinch. Sorry to the kiddos, but those aren't for fashion in most places.
I started doing that after I was in Israel and they pointed out all the vulnerable targets we have in the US. Now I see them everywhere.
Then again, everytime I see one of those clueless college kids wearing a keffiyeh, I flinch. Sorry to the kiddos, but those aren't for fashion in most places.
Posted by: experience smeperience at November 09, 2009 09:51 PM (Qh9s8)
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THAT would effectively cripple a large segment of the US retail economy.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 09, 2009 09:43 PM (9OFZV)
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Are you sure we wouldn't all be ordered back to the malls unarmed to show that we bear no ill-will?
Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 09, 2009 09:43 PM (9OFZV)
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Are you sure we wouldn't all be ordered back to the malls unarmed to show that we bear no ill-will?
Posted by: arhooley at November 09, 2009 09:51 PM (jwoys)
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There was more outrage from the Left about Rush buying a part of the St Louis Rams than there is about a muslim terrorists going on a murder-suicide shooting spree at Ft Hood. Posted by: tweet tells it like it is at November 09, 2009 09:49 PM (ouySy)
Tweet, you magnificent bastard! You are absolutely spot on!
Tweet, you magnificent bastard! You are absolutely spot on!
Posted by: runningrn at November 09, 2009 09:52 PM (qP2BK)
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Yeah, there's a plethora of soft targets what with the holidays coming up.
I thank God every day for putting me in a concealed carry state.
Yeah, there's a plethora of soft targets what with the holidays coming up.
I thank God every day for putting me in a concealed carry state.
Posted by: Dang Straights at November 09, 2009 09:53 PM (VTAo+)
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"Chris Matthews, I'm going to cockpunch you."
That would work my friend, if we could guarantee Chris Matthews had a penis. I truly doubt it at this point.
Posted by: experience smeperience at November 09, 2009 09:46 PM (Qh9s
Warning: If you click this link you will be horrified, mesmerized and see some nudity.
Chrissy Matthews penis.
http://tinyurl.com/n3cfnb
I warned you.
"Chris Matthews, I'm going to cockpunch you."
That would work my friend, if we could guarantee Chris Matthews had a penis. I truly doubt it at this point.
Posted by: experience smeperience at November 09, 2009 09:46 PM (Qh9s
Warning: If you click this link you will be horrified, mesmerized and see some nudity.
Chrissy Matthews penis.
http://tinyurl.com/n3cfnb
I warned you.
Posted by: MPFS Indentured Fish Stick to the State at November 09, 2009 09:53 PM (PBGAP)
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lets ship all these libs down to gitmo and give them a choice. pop a terrorist or take their place.
Posted by: evil libertarian at November 09, 2009 09:53 PM (7y71/)
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I'm sorry, but I am one who welcomes our new Muslim overlords.
Posted by: 52% of really stupid Americans. at November 09, 2009 09:53 PM (nxUYP)
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"120 There was more outrage from the Left about Rush buying a part of the St Louis Rams than there is about a muslim terrorists going on a murder-suicide shooting spree at Ft Hood."
I told one of my PC liberalfriends that if one more person told me that Hassan had PTSD, I'd punch them in the face. Or use my boot in an unmentionable way. He's a terrorist, plain and simple. And she's too worried about what Dick Cheney or Sarah Palin might say to worry about that.
I told one of my PC liberalfriends that if one more person told me that Hassan had PTSD, I'd punch them in the face. Or use my boot in an unmentionable way. He's a terrorist, plain and simple. And she's too worried about what Dick Cheney or Sarah Palin might say to worry about that.
Posted by: experience smeperience at November 09, 2009 09:53 PM (Qh9s8)
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Seems like the food court would be THE perfect target.
If I were planning it, that's a good choice, but I wouldn't do it with splodydopes. I think within CONUS they're probably a somewhat limited resource.
I'd take a page from the IRA and use exploding trash cans so the bomber can get away to bomb again another day.
If I were planning it, that's a good choice, but I wouldn't do it with splodydopes. I think within CONUS they're probably a somewhat limited resource.
I'd take a page from the IRA and use exploding trash cans so the bomber can get away to bomb again another day.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 09, 2009 09:54 PM (9OFZV)
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Tami, thank you. I have no words. I am just stunned. Ann Coulter is 100% correct, liberalism is indeed a disease. And I say this as someone who hated Ann Coulter up until last year, now? I look forward to hearing her opinions.
I am just stunned beyond words at this point. Who the hell are these people?
I am just stunned beyond words at this point. Who the hell are these people?
Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at November 09, 2009 09:54 PM (ACkhT)
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Crap, how about holiday traveling? That would be another primo time to hit crowded airports. I'm so glad to be flying home to Philadelphia from Seattle for Thanksgiving. Great.
Posted by: runningrn at November 09, 2009 09:54 PM (qP2BK)
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"Warning: If you click this link you will be horrified, mesmerized and see some nudity.Chrissy Matthews penis.http://tinyurl.com/n3cfnbI warned you."
There isn't enough alcohol in the world, my friend.
There isn't enough alcohol in the world, my friend.
Posted by: experience smeperience at November 09, 2009 09:54 PM (Qh9s8)
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my bad.
Posted by: tdpwells at November 09, 2009 09:49 PM (Ei3oZ)
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Dude, no bad at all. But bummer, she doesn't seem to be coming to SoCal any time soon. Anyway, I'll know where to go to keep looking.
I bet once the first week is up, she'll have a few offers to come to the OC.
Posted by: tdpwells at November 09, 2009 09:49 PM (Ei3oZ)
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Dude, no bad at all. But bummer, she doesn't seem to be coming to SoCal any time soon. Anyway, I'll know where to go to keep looking.
I bet once the first week is up, she'll have a few offers to come to the OC.
Posted by: arhooley at November 09, 2009 09:55 PM (jwoys)
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I Know!
Let's declare all Shopping Malls Gun Free Zones!
Surely THAT would make everything safe!
Let's declare all Shopping Malls Gun Free Zones!
Surely THAT would make everything safe!
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 09, 2009 09:55 PM (QECjC)
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"Funny, seems to me that after 9/11, National Security Concern Trolls like Chris Matthews were pretty sure we should have rolled up the Mohammad Atta cell based upon pilot-training inquires."
And, also, the Air Force should have been ready to shoot down four plane loads of innocent men, women and children.
But making terrorists uncomfortable is immoral.
I gotta funny that if those planes were shot down, the leftests would not have approved.
In fact, I think they would have called for the court martial of the pilots and anybody that approved of such an action.
And the impeachment of the President, of course.
As long as that President was W.
And, also, the Air Force should have been ready to shoot down four plane loads of innocent men, women and children.
But making terrorists uncomfortable is immoral.
I gotta funny that if those planes were shot down, the leftests would not have approved.
In fact, I think they would have called for the court martial of the pilots and anybody that approved of such an action.
And the impeachment of the President, of course.
As long as that President was W.
Posted by: RayJ at November 09, 2009 09:55 PM (YcjCJ)
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The Federal Bureau of Future-Crime Prevention: where all non-Muslims are assumed guilty and agents can read our stinking, racist thoughts before we even know we have them.
Posted by: Josephine at November 09, 2009 09:55 PM (u1r4L)
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Osama Bin Laden could walk into a session of congress, detonate his suicide belt, and the MSM would still say it wasn't terrorism. The MSMwon't allow terrorism to happen on Obama's shift.
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at November 09, 2009 09:56 PM (kn+jW)
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U.S. Rep. Michael McCaul, a Republican from Austin, was briefed by military officials and said Hasan had taken some unusual classes for someone studying about mental health.
What? I couldn't get extra weapons training and I was in a reconnaissance type unit attached to an infantry battalion. How did a fat Army shrink get it? Christ, I spent more time fixing broken Humvees and getting sensitivity training than I did firing live ammunition, yet Dr Halal Twinkie gets to go to the range all the time? Glad to see after 8 years of war, the Army can be just as obtuse as it was in the late '90s.
What? I couldn't get extra weapons training and I was in a reconnaissance type unit attached to an infantry battalion. How did a fat Army shrink get it? Christ, I spent more time fixing broken Humvees and getting sensitivity training than I did firing live ammunition, yet Dr Halal Twinkie gets to go to the range all the time? Glad to see after 8 years of war, the Army can be just as obtuse as it was in the late '90s.
Posted by: UGAdawg at November 09, 2009 09:56 PM (O4miG)
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OK, gotta run and make dinner. I won't have to turn the stove on, I can just cook the food on my head--my blood is absolutely boiling!
Posted by: runningrn at November 09, 2009 09:56 PM (qP2BK)
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Hey, what if something like this happened at the UN?
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at November 09, 2009 09:56 PM (shkwv)
Posted by: Deety at November 09, 2009 09:57 PM (aVzyR)
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Ann Coulter is 100% correct, liberalism is indeed a disease.
Actually... that's Michael Savage's original.
Actually... that's Michael Savage's original.
Posted by: Truman North at November 09, 2009 09:57 PM (XH/G8)
Posted by: Secundus at November 09, 2009 09:57 PM (1tgbG)
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I told one of my PC liberalfriends that if one more person told me that Hassan had PTSD...Posted by: experience smeperience at November 09, 2009 09:53 PM (Qh9s
Well, he did live in DC for a while.
Well, he did live in DC for a while.
Posted by: Tami at November 09, 2009 09:58 PM (VuLos)
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I agree, they have see how easy it would be to sudden jihad in small controlled areas. Then have MSM cover for them, apoligize for them, and call them the victims.
Come, come to my little town and they'll call you DOA stupid fucking cowards. We have concealed carry here. and we do.
Come, come to my little town and they'll call you DOA stupid fucking cowards. We have concealed carry here. and we do.
Posted by: SoFuckingAngry at November 09, 2009 10:00 PM (fCsLk)
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Haven't read all the comments, yet, so I hope this isn't being repeated.
D!ckweed of the WH appointed a devout Sunni, MuArif Alikhan as Assistant Secretary for the Office of Policy Development at the Department of Homeland Security. Part of his job is supposed to be fostering communication between departments.
No need to wonder about the spin or why nothing was done about that POS Hasan. A breakdown in communication perhaps?
Keep your powder dry morons/'ettes!
http://tiny.cc/jZjg9
D!ckweed of the WH appointed a devout Sunni, MuArif Alikhan as Assistant Secretary for the Office of Policy Development at the Department of Homeland Security. Part of his job is supposed to be fostering communication between departments.
No need to wonder about the spin or why nothing was done about that POS Hasan. A breakdown in communication perhaps?
Keep your powder dry morons/'ettes!
http://tiny.cc/jZjg9
Posted by: Steph at November 09, 2009 10:00 PM (/CtkQ)
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I remember the good ole days back in the early 80's when I was in the military. We were always free to speak our mind and didn't really give a shit who was offended. But the funny part was, all other classes of people also freely spoke their mind and I wasn't offended. Good times. Seems to me that this PC revolution started around the late 80's, not too much of a coincidence that also was when the hippies children became grownups.
Posted by: 52% of really stupid Americans. at November 09, 2009 10:00 PM (nxUYP)
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ESPN is doing a good job with these personal messages to the troops from football players for Veteran's day.
Posted by: Tami at November 09, 2009 10:00 PM (VuLos)
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I'm reading a book about Churchill during the '30s and this, from a speech given on 23 April 1933, jumped out at me:
"Nothing could do more to demoralize a people in time of difficulty than the current Government philosophy, made up of a 'vague internationalism, a squalid materialism, and the promise of impossible Utopias'."
"Nothing could do more to demoralize a people in time of difficulty than the current Government philosophy, made up of a 'vague internationalism, a squalid materialism, and the promise of impossible Utopias'."
Posted by: Retread at November 09, 2009 10:01 PM (mCZwf)
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In the Name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful,
The USA should consider itself very lucky that it's final warningwas as easy as this, if you ponder it you might see it could've been far, far, worse...
Condsider this as Allah's Graciouness and Mercy. And take heed, the next time you may not be so lucky.
7HEAVENS (Sura 2:29)
The USA should consider itself very lucky that it's final warningwas as easy as this, if you ponder it you might see it could've been far, far, worse...
Condsider this as Allah's Graciouness and Mercy. And take heed, the next time you may not be so lucky.
7HEAVENS (Sura 2:29)
Posted by: 7HEAVENS at November 09, 2009 10:01 PM (UmqLD)
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He wanted to be caught. He was screaming to be stopped. He was begging anybody who saw him to please stop him. He was arguing with patients, he was dressing in the most obvious Muslim dress, he was telling people to stop him.
He wanted people to tell him his hatred was wrong. Anybody. He wanted Muslims to tell him he was being a bad Muslim. He wanted Americans to tell him he was being a bad American or a bad soldier. He wanted people to engage him, push back. But they didn't. Muslims are cowed by their more radical brethren, who are more "authentic". The rest of us are cowed by political correctness.
And lawyers.
Am I right or am I just playing pop psychologist here?
He wanted people to tell him his hatred was wrong. Anybody. He wanted Muslims to tell him he was being a bad Muslim. He wanted Americans to tell him he was being a bad American or a bad soldier. He wanted people to engage him, push back. But they didn't. Muslims are cowed by their more radical brethren, who are more "authentic". The rest of us are cowed by political correctness.
And lawyers.
Am I right or am I just playing pop psychologist here?
Posted by: AmishDude at November 09, 2009 10:05 PM (T0NGe)
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78 -- There is no safe place in America; it hasn't been safe-safe (thank you Whoopi) for quite a long time, and it has gotten much more dangerous in the past few months. I would not be suprised if we don't see a large attack in the next six months (if not sooner) -- perhaps hitting several small targets at once in a coordinated attack; it could actually cause more panic than one large attack -- because it isn't what everyone is looking for.
While the cities are always a target, look to rural areas being on the top of the roster of "places to hit" as well -- because rural law enforcement will not be ready for it at all, and neither will rural residents.
Security in this country is a huge joke, and the citizens have not and are not taking any of this seriously -- to their potential endangerment. We learned nothing from the terrorist attacks we've already had. How many Americans can honestly say that they are the least bit situationally aware? How many of them have back up plans to get in touch with family should the worst happen? (because assuredly, there will be a cell phone and internet blackout if a major attack happens). How many really look out for suspicious behavior or things and then go to the trouble of reporting them?
While the cities are always a target, look to rural areas being on the top of the roster of "places to hit" as well -- because rural law enforcement will not be ready for it at all, and neither will rural residents.
Security in this country is a huge joke, and the citizens have not and are not taking any of this seriously -- to their potential endangerment. We learned nothing from the terrorist attacks we've already had. How many Americans can honestly say that they are the least bit situationally aware? How many of them have back up plans to get in touch with family should the worst happen? (because assuredly, there will be a cell phone and internet blackout if a major attack happens). How many really look out for suspicious behavior or things and then go to the trouble of reporting them?
Posted by: unknown jane at November 09, 2009 10:05 PM (5/yRG)
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If one really wanted to make a very powerful statement and cripple the economy it would be very easy. First you get your hands on 10 MANPADS (lot's of SA-9's down in the South American market) and then move it up through the southern border with the help of already established drug routes (remember the Muslims have been working with the Mexican cartels already). Big the 10 largest cities with very busy airports and pick say 9am on the east coast/6am on the west coast and at the top of the hour lock and shoot down 10 loaded civilian airliners. Just counting the aircrew and passengers, you may be approaching death tolls of 9/11 plus whatever collateral damage you have on the ground. You have no grounded all air travel in the US and have effectively crippled the US economy. Now comes the real easy stuff of planting IED's on the highways, in the sewer systems and at the malls. FBI and others have already arrested types that have tried to purchase these MANPADS. It's only a matter of time.
Posted by: CDR M at November 09, 2009 10:06 PM (cvmTR)
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But the funny part was, all other classes of people also freely spoke their mind and I wasn't offended.
Once or twice, I'll bet you were. But you just sucked it up because you didn't feel like you had the right to tell people what they could think or say. And if you were offended, then you had to deal with it.
Remember that "offended" is a very low bar.
Once or twice, I'll bet you were. But you just sucked it up because you didn't feel like you had the right to tell people what they could think or say. And if you were offended, then you had to deal with it.
Remember that "offended" is a very low bar.
Posted by: AmishDude at November 09, 2009 10:06 PM (T0NGe)
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Who the hell are these people?
Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at November 09, 2009 09:54 PM (ACkhT)
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Remember when Chris Matthews said "They're not bad guys!" when the dead-end Saddamists were booby-trapping dead kids with explosive devices? That's who these people are.
Posted by: johnc_recent_EX-democrat at November 09, 2009 09:54 PM (ACkhT)
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Remember when Chris Matthews said "They're not bad guys!" when the dead-end Saddamists were booby-trapping dead kids with explosive devices? That's who these people are.
Posted by: arhooley at November 09, 2009 10:10 PM (jwoys)
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Liberals are apparently trying to get us used to the dhimmitude they want us to live under. Muslims? Commit crimes? No, the only crimes committed were against Muslims, because infidels are too stupid to realise that being gunned down is the only thing infidels can hope for anyway.
After all, according to orthodox Muslims, infidels aren't really people anyway.
After all, according to orthodox Muslims, infidels aren't really people anyway.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 09, 2009 10:10 PM (eNxMU)
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I remember the good ole days back in the early 80's when I was in the military. We were always free to speak our mind and didn't really give a shit who was offended. But the funny part was, all other classes of people also freely spoke their mind and I wasn't offended. Good times. Seems to me that this PC revolution started around the late 80's, not too much of a coincidence that also was when the hippies children became grownups. Posted by: 52% of really stupid Americans. at November 09, 2009 10:00 PM (nxUYP)
I remember back in the early 70's....someone like Hassan would have had an accident and never been heard or seen from again. Those were better times.
I remember back in the early 70's....someone like Hassan would have had an accident and never been heard or seen from again. Those were better times.
Posted by: Old Hippie Vet at November 09, 2009 10:11 PM (3IZGh)
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156 -- don't discount the use of simple suicide missions with a gun or explosive in a crowd of people. Cheap, easy, effective -- and very hard to prevent.
Posted by: unknown jane at November 09, 2009 10:12 PM (5/yRG)
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Now do you guys understand why the Left wanted to preserve the privacy rights of US citizens who were calling Al Qaeda?
Posted by: sexypig at November 09, 2009 10:13 PM (3rgJv)
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154
He wanted to be caught. He was screaming to be stopped. He was
begging anybody who saw him to please stop him. He was arguing with
patients, he was dressing in the most obvious Muslim dress, he was
telling people to stop him.
He
wanted people to tell him his hatred was wrong. Anybody. He wanted
Muslims to tell him he was being a bad Muslim. He wanted Americans to
tell him he was being a bad American or a bad soldier. He wanted
people to engage him, push back. But they didn't. Muslims are cowed
by their more radical brethren, who are more "authentic". The rest of
us are cowed by political correctness.
And lawyers.
Am I right or am I just playing pop psychologist here?
Posted by: AmishDude at November 09, 2009 10:05 PM (T0NGe)
++
154
He wanted to be caught. He was screaming to be stopped. He was
begging anybody who saw him to please stop him. He was arguing with
patients, he was dressing in the most obvious Muslim dress, he was
telling people to stop him.
He
wanted people to tell him his hatred was wrong. Anybody. He wanted
Muslims to tell him he was being a bad Muslim. He wanted Americans to
tell him he was being a bad American or a bad soldier. He wanted
people to engage him, push back. But they didn't. Muslims are cowed
by their more radical brethren, who are more "authentic". The rest of
us are cowed by political correctness.
And lawyers.
Am I right or am I just playing pop psychologist here?
Posted by: AmishDude at November 09, 2009 10:05 PM (T0NGe)
++
Posted by: Juicer at November 09, 2009 10:13 PM (BON0t)
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7heavens... nice use of different color fonts... does your brethren know you're "artistic"? I guess that's your "Christmas" clue.
Posted by: jules at November 09, 2009 10:14 PM (ZA2Zb)
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I remember the military as a place were being dogged and offended was a feature and not a bug -- most equal and pc place in the world to be: "here you are all equally worthless (until you can prove otherwise -- then you might be worth just a little)".
Posted by: unknown jane at November 09, 2009 10:14 PM (5/yRG)
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Amish Dude -- I don't know about the "screaming to be stopped", but for the rest of it I think you're on target.
Posted by: unknown jane at November 09, 2009 10:16 PM (5/yRG)
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Just popped over to newsbusters to read the Chris Matthews thing. My God, that man makes the word "stupid"seem so horriblyinadequate. There has to be a different word for this level of sheer retardation.
How about "Liberalism"?
How about "Liberalism"?
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 09, 2009 10:17 PM (eNxMU)
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#152 Nice find...Mr. Churchill has always been a source of wisdom.
Posted by: torabora at November 09, 2009 10:19 PM (7iv2W)
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I'm really getting sick of this shit the world is out of its fing mind.
Posted by: SOME ASSHOLE STOLE MY PEN at November 09, 2009 10:22 PM (+d5Tk)
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@109 Remember the jihadi who shot up the ticket counter at LAX?? That wasn't a terrorist attack???
No. They are only "terrorists" when the attack is thwarted, i.e. Ft. Dix, the recent arrests in NYC, and the successful sting in Dallas. If there is an actual attack, like the El Al attack at LAX, the botched suicide bombing at the Univ. of Oklahoma, or the SUV attack in the Carolinas, they are quickly determined not to be terrorists.
@155. I was taught situational awareness by my father as a kid (he was a cop in Philly). I'm now in law enforcement myself, and am amazed at the lack of SA by the average person. I came up with a post-attack plan for my fiance (now wife) after 9/11. I was sure there would be attacks during the '01 Christmas shopping season. I updated it to include our kids.
Sometime my wife thinks I'm nuts.
No. They are only "terrorists" when the attack is thwarted, i.e. Ft. Dix, the recent arrests in NYC, and the successful sting in Dallas. If there is an actual attack, like the El Al attack at LAX, the botched suicide bombing at the Univ. of Oklahoma, or the SUV attack in the Carolinas, they are quickly determined not to be terrorists.
@155. I was taught situational awareness by my father as a kid (he was a cop in Philly). I'm now in law enforcement myself, and am amazed at the lack of SA by the average person. I came up with a post-attack plan for my fiance (now wife) after 9/11. I was sure there would be attacks during the '01 Christmas shopping season. I updated it to include our kids.
Sometime my wife thinks I'm nuts.
Posted by: elliot at November 09, 2009 10:22 PM (ephyK)
171
Someone commented earlier that the media would be frantically hoping for a white male to kill somebody so they can get this off the front page.
Well, their wish has been granted. On the Fox News website (what the hell is happening to them?!) right now--front page, picture story:
"Defiant and unapologetic, Scott Roeder, who is
accused of killing a Kansas abortion doctor, confesses to the murder in
a telephone interview from jail."
Etc.
Good work, media!
Well, their wish has been granted. On the Fox News website (what the hell is happening to them?!) right now--front page, picture story:
"Defiant and unapologetic, Scott Roeder, who is
accused of killing a Kansas abortion doctor, confesses to the murder in
a telephone interview from jail."
Etc.
Good work, media!
Posted by: Flubber at November 09, 2009 10:24 PM (VL5if)
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The Feds who dropped the ball on this bullshit "investigation" need to be FIRED!
And that goes for any of their fucking PC bosses!
And that goes for any of their fucking PC bosses!
Posted by: GarandFan at November 09, 2009 10:24 PM (ZQBnQ)
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um... not to throw fuel on the fire or anything (and apologies if someone mentioned this already), but wasn't one of the reasons Teh One was given the Nobel Peace Prize was his work reaching out to Muslim nations?
Yeah... sounds about right...
Yeah... sounds about right...
Posted by: Beth W at November 09, 2009 10:25 PM (gcRbW)
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Un-f*ing-real.
Posted by: Twinks at November 09, 2009 10:26 PM (LeFbD)
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"170 @109 Remember the jihadi who shot up the ticket counter at LAX?? That wasn't a terrorist attack???""No. They are only "terrorists" when the attack is thwarted, i.e. Ft. Dix, the recent arrests in NYC, and the successful sting in Dallas. If there is an actual attack, like the El Al attack at LAX, the botched suicide bombing at the Univ. of Oklahoma, or the SUV attack in the Carolinas, they are quickly determined not to be terrorists. "
You're both wrong. The attack at LAX was against the evil JOOOOOS so it doesn't count.
Silly geese.
You're both wrong. The attack at LAX was against the evil JOOOOOS so it doesn't count.
Silly geese.
Posted by: experience smeperience at November 09, 2009 10:31 PM (Qh9s8)
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don't discount the use of simple suicide missions with a gun or explosive in a crowd of people
Infrastructure strikes are virtually risk free with greater long term impact on the country as a whole. Derailing a train and screwing up tracks is easy. Bring down a large power transmission tower is easy. Dropping a big IED off the back of a pickup truck and blasting the I95 roadbed up would cripple commerce along the I95 corridor for a week.
The good news is, they apparently don't have any planners capable of thinking in terms of maximal effect for minimal risk. They want splashy, but that's only affects the immediate people and families who got whacked, which is bad, but not nationwide or regional. Drop a few power lines in the right places and you can darken the lives of many millions for days/weeks.
You could employ the whole US population trying to guard our infrastructure and still have gaps large enough that major hits could be made without the perps getting caught.
Infrastructure strikes are virtually risk free with greater long term impact on the country as a whole. Derailing a train and screwing up tracks is easy. Bring down a large power transmission tower is easy. Dropping a big IED off the back of a pickup truck and blasting the I95 roadbed up would cripple commerce along the I95 corridor for a week.
The good news is, they apparently don't have any planners capable of thinking in terms of maximal effect for minimal risk. They want splashy, but that's only affects the immediate people and families who got whacked, which is bad, but not nationwide or regional. Drop a few power lines in the right places and you can darken the lives of many millions for days/weeks.
You could employ the whole US population trying to guard our infrastructure and still have gaps large enough that major hits could be made without the perps getting caught.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 09, 2009 10:32 PM (9OFZV)
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"173 um... not to throw fuel on the fire or anything (and apologies if someone mentioned this already), but wasn't one of the reasons Teh One was given the Nobel Peace Prize was his work reaching out to Muslim nations? Yeah... sounds about right... "
Throw fuel on there, and light a match. How's that hopenchange working out so far?
Answer: pretty shitty. Thanks for asking.
Throw fuel on there, and light a match. How's that hopenchange working out so far?
Answer: pretty shitty. Thanks for asking.
Posted by: experience smeperience at November 09, 2009 10:33 PM (Qh9s8)
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"You could employ the whole US population trying to guard our infrastructure and still have gaps large enough that major hits could be made without the perps getting caught."
And don't forget the swiss cheese border patrol between the US and Canada. I could name you at LEAST fifty places that a person could cross the border without getting caught. And that's just in parts of Saskatchewan/Alberta and Montana/North Dakota.
And don't forget the swiss cheese border patrol between the US and Canada. I could name you at LEAST fifty places that a person could cross the border without getting caught. And that's just in parts of Saskatchewan/Alberta and Montana/North Dakota.
Posted by: experience smeperience at November 09, 2009 10:35 PM (Qh9s8)
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So is this psycho clown going to be tried on hate crimes by the psycho military against the military?
Posted by: drfredc at November 09, 2009 10:37 PM (puRnk)
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I'm not sure that infrastructure will be their main target -- I think they are out to panic people. It would shred what remains of our sense of nationhood (everyone not trusting one another) and it could do damage to our economy. Hit one big infrastructure target and you cripple our economy of a while, maybepeople get nervous for a while. Make several small hits on the population, and people are suddenly afraid to do anything, go anywhere, self-marginlization (people become afraid of their own shadows, let alone their neighbors)-- the fabric of this nation falls apart along with taking a bite out of its economy. Anyway, that's my take on it. I hope none of it comes to pass, but I'm not optimistic.
Posted by: unknown jane at November 09, 2009 10:42 PM (5/yRG)
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Events such as this make movies such as Burn After Reading seem plausible.
Posted by: Burn After Reading at November 09, 2009 10:46 PM (UaSIe)
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It's probably dawning on a whole bunch of soldiers that their commanders don't give a shit about protecting them. They are simply acceptable collateral damage in the War against Backlash.
What is this going to do to morale and confidence within the military?
What is this going to do to morale and confidence within the military?
Posted by: PJ at November 09, 2009 10:47 PM (Qpxxz)
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I saw somewhere that this "Major" was a member of a blue ribbon panel on Islamic culture from the White House. If this is true than Obama and crew had to know him to have him be an invited member, haven't seen anything since and I can't remember where I saw it.
Ironic how with all that was known about this guy, that he was still in the Army, and a member of the White House panel!
Ironic how with all that was known about this guy, that he was still in the Army, and a member of the White House panel!
Posted by: jainphx at November 09, 2009 10:48 PM (4t9Xj)
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Gorelick Wall Reborn
Posted by: Druid at November 09, 2009 10:49 PM (Gct7d)
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It's only a matter of time.
Posted by: CDR M at November 09, 2009 10:06 PM (cvmTR)
i've run through a thousand scenarios just like that....but i never could imagine a president of african decent.
think about all the soft targets...roadway dams for instance.. you have the potential to kills thousands for almost nothing by yourself. my guess is these people are afraid to kick a sleeping mentally unbalanced pit bull in the face.
Posted by: CDR M at November 09, 2009 10:06 PM (cvmTR)
i've run through a thousand scenarios just like that....but i never could imagine a president of african decent.
think about all the soft targets...roadway dams for instance.. you have the potential to kills thousands for almost nothing by yourself. my guess is these people are afraid to kick a sleeping mentally unbalanced pit bull in the face.
Posted by: evil libertarian at November 09, 2009 10:50 PM (7y71/)
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You can't prove he said Allahu Ackbar. You can't prove anything.
Posted by: Bart Simpson at November 09, 2009 11:07 PM (5I0Yr)
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Or Akbar
Posted by: Bart Simpson at November 09, 2009 11:07 PM (5I0Yr)
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Jane @ 10:42
Ordinarily, Jane, I don't disagree with you. You're savvy and you make powerful comments.
But give Americans some credit. They're stronger, more courageousand more resilient than your current anxieties are allowing you to recognize. That's all Americans - Republicans, Democrats and Independents, alike.
To be sure, we've had one crisis after another in recent months. But this country is still in great shape. Adversity makes Americans stronger, not weaker. We're a feisty bunch.
Ordinarily, Jane, I don't disagree with you. You're savvy and you make powerful comments.
But give Americans some credit. They're stronger, more courageousand more resilient than your current anxieties are allowing you to recognize. That's all Americans - Republicans, Democrats and Independents, alike.
To be sure, we've had one crisis after another in recent months. But this country is still in great shape. Adversity makes Americans stronger, not weaker. We're a feisty bunch.
Posted by: Colin at November 09, 2009 11:07 PM (Cta0m)
Posted by: Waterhouse at November 09, 2009 11:08 PM (C51o4)
Posted by: Druid at November 09, 2009 11:12 PM (Gct7d)
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188 -- I used to agree with you, but now I'm not so sure. There is still a segment of the populace that are still "fiesty", but there is a growing segment that is pretty damn soft and easily led. You wouldn't have to panic the entire herd, just a part to cause all manner of problems.
Posted by: unknown jane at November 09, 2009 11:17 PM (5/yRG)
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Am I right or am I just playing pop psychologist here?
Depends how smart the guy is. If he's a crazy dipshit, it might be like you say, or the guy might have been just casually being crazy.
If he's the serious serial killer type, he was reveling in the helplessness, denial, and silent cooperation he knew his rubbing it in everyone's faces would inspire.
Could be any of those, but psychiatrists are more likely to be dumb sadists than evil geniuses.
Depends how smart the guy is. If he's a crazy dipshit, it might be like you say, or the guy might have been just casually being crazy.
If he's the serious serial killer type, he was reveling in the helplessness, denial, and silent cooperation he knew his rubbing it in everyone's faces would inspire.
Could be any of those, but psychiatrists are more likely to be dumb sadists than evil geniuses.
Posted by: oblig. at November 09, 2009 11:25 PM (Mmhde)
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"....., but there is a growing segment that is pretty damn soft and easily led." - Jane @ 11:17
"growing"? Naw, Jane, they have always been with us, and they will continue to be with us. The rest of us have a way of compensating for them.
Just live your own life every day, so that when you get out of bed every morning, and your feet hit the floor, Satan groans, "Oh no, she's awake."
Or as my grandmother used to say, "Everything will be the same a thousand years from now, and life is too short. So don't sweat the petty sh-t." ;-)
"growing"? Naw, Jane, they have always been with us, and they will continue to be with us. The rest of us have a way of compensating for them.
Just live your own life every day, so that when you get out of bed every morning, and your feet hit the floor, Satan groans, "Oh no, she's awake."
Or as my grandmother used to say, "Everything will be the same a thousand years from now, and life is too short. So don't sweat the petty sh-t." ;-)
Posted by: Colin at November 09, 2009 11:32 PM (Cta0m)
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"Nothing to see hear, these are not the droids you're looking for"http://tiny.cc/wGNJY
Posted by: ian cormac at November 09, 2009 11:38 PM (GkYyh)
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Feed this scum to (live) to pigs... (unless of course pigs are anendangered species) ..then he can truely rot in hell.
Posted by: ericoflocke at November 10, 2009 12:26 AM (QsH79)
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#188 Colin
I have grave doubts about your list of those who are Americans. It seems to have a very questionable group in the center of that list, that can be depended upon to back our enemies in any situation.
Subotai Bahadur
I have grave doubts about your list of those who are Americans. It seems to have a very questionable group in the center of that list, that can be depended upon to back our enemies in any situation.
Subotai Bahadur
Posted by: Subotai Bahadur at November 10, 2009 12:55 AM (eAElU)
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Your "victim," Ace? You must be slipping . . . I thought your fans could at least expect the plural.
Posted by: Little Miss Attila at November 10, 2009 04:42 AM (saBHO)
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Chris Matthews: "It's not a crime to call Al Qaeda, is it? I mean, where do you stop the guy?"
Oh no, Chrissy...no crime at all. Other than treason, of course.
Oh no, Chrissy...no crime at all. Other than treason, of course.
Posted by: Chainsaw Chimp at November 10, 2009 04:59 AM (+i60o)
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Infrastructure strikes are virtually risk free with greater long term
impact on the country as a whole. Derailing a train and screwing up
tracks is easy. Bring down a large power transmission tower is easy.
Dropping a big IED off the back of a pickup truck and blasting the I95
roadbed up would cripple commerce along the I95 corridor for a week.
Gosh, tell us some more. How do you levitate cores for maximum yield? What's the best configuration for overall blast effect? Etc., etc., etc.
impact on the country as a whole. Derailing a train and screwing up
tracks is easy. Bring down a large power transmission tower is easy.
Dropping a big IED off the back of a pickup truck and blasting the I95
roadbed up would cripple commerce along the I95 corridor for a week.
Gosh, tell us some more. How do you levitate cores for maximum yield? What's the best configuration for overall blast effect? Etc., etc., etc.
Posted by: Ace's #1 Fan at November 10, 2009 09:49 AM (SHKl9)
200
Fire them all.
Posted by: ahem at November 10, 2009 11:02 AM (VGD2Y)
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#190, Druid, that's the Marines. Ten years in the Army amd I saw people in support MOS's that should have been given live ammo. Ever.
#196, yes. Most of the vocal Democrats I would have in labor camps on treason charges were it left up to me.
#200, anyone of a mind to do that sort of thing should already have the applicable technical references in front of them. I always wish for incompetent opponents.
#196, yes. Most of the vocal Democrats I would have in labor camps on treason charges were it left up to me.
#200, anyone of a mind to do that sort of thing should already have the applicable technical references in front of them. I always wish for incompetent opponents.
Posted by: SGT Dan at November 10, 2009 12:30 PM (GgXZc)
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Prosecutor: Why'd ya do it?
Defendant: It's the nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms.
Judge: Case dismissed.
Defendant: It's the nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms.
Judge: Case dismissed.
Posted by: FireHorse at November 10, 2009 01:03 PM (Vl5GH)
203
I know that in Obama's concept of National Security, Muslim terrorist attacks are a feature and not a bug. However, for the benefit of Chrissy Matthews and the stupid smears of pig smegma that decided that they had better drop the investigation of Hasan lest the White House be perturbed:
It is defined under the UCMJ as “Aiding the Enemy” in Article 104:
“Any person who—
(1) aids, or attempts to aid, the enemy with arms, ammunition, supplies, money, or other things; or
(2) without proper authority, knowingly harbors or protects or gives intelligence to or communicates or corresponds with or holds any intercourse with the enemy, either directly or indirectly; shall suffer death or such other punishment as a court-martial or military commission may direct.” [My emphasis]
When he, as has been testified to, tried to convince Muslim soldiers he was treating not to fight Muslim enemies of this country, he violated Article 82 “Solicitation”. It is long, so I won't quote the whole thing, but it comes down to, that by uttering the words, he made himself liable for a long time in prison. If any soldier followed his advice, Hasan made himself liable for the death penalty.
But to Democrats and their partners on the Left, he was making war on the REAL enemy; the United States of America and its people.
Subotai Bahadur
It is defined under the UCMJ as “Aiding the Enemy” in Article 104:
“Any person who—
(1) aids, or attempts to aid, the enemy with arms, ammunition, supplies, money, or other things; or
(2) without proper authority, knowingly harbors or protects or gives intelligence to or communicates or corresponds with or holds any intercourse with the enemy, either directly or indirectly; shall suffer death or such other punishment as a court-martial or military commission may direct.” [My emphasis]
When he, as has been testified to, tried to convince Muslim soldiers he was treating not to fight Muslim enemies of this country, he violated Article 82 “Solicitation”. It is long, so I won't quote the whole thing, but it comes down to, that by uttering the words, he made himself liable for a long time in prison. If any soldier followed his advice, Hasan made himself liable for the death penalty.
But to Democrats and their partners on the Left, he was making war on the REAL enemy; the United States of America and its people.
Subotai Bahadur
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