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Gun Thread: Night Before Christmas Edition!

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Time to dust off the Santa pic!

Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving hell did it get to be the night before Christmas?!

With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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Merry Christmas to All Y'all!!
From Weasel Family to you and your'n, Merry Christmas.

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NORAD Tracks Santa

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Want to track Santa? The official Santa tracking site of the North American Aerospace Defense Command has you covered.

Origins of this annual service (wiki)

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Cops 'n Stuff
Guns and cops and cars don't often mix, at least not very well. Here are some tips from Mas Ayoob on how not to make matters worse when stopped by the fuzz while carrying. I happen to think he is spot-on with this advice. You've been stopped and the cop doesn't need your attitude. Be deliberate, respectful and polite and take your lumps if you get a ticket. The roadside is not the place to test out your legal theories.

And while you're talking to the police, remember, don't talk to the police.

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What's on Your List?

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Giving a Firearm as a Gift?

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Here are some things to consider from our pals at Gun Tests

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Kleening Korner
Basic revolver cleaning

.38 Special Revolver Cleaning

People Cleaning
Don't be smelly for Christmas! Here are some tips on body care and grooming.

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Fundamentals
Shooting low left/right? Don't do that!

And some tips to reduce "printing".

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Our Pal the Mighty Electron

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Musical Interlude
You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch!

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Gun Basics 101
New video from the She Equips Herself gal! This week's video is Day 1 of the Twelve Days of Carry

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Cigar of the Week

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This week our pal Diogenes scores again with this excellent review of the Arturo Fuente Hemingway Short Story

Well, one cigar left from the year's supply in the variety pack Mrs D. snatched for me from Santa last Christmas. I think I have written about these before and if so, nothing has changed that a year in the humidor hasn't made better. Never underestimate the ability of the A. Fuente Hemmingway Short Story cigar to provide you with 20 minutes of smoking pleasure. Yes, it is funny looking and yes it is a small cigar. (Pictured here next to one of those airline bottles.) But it is packed with flavor and a wonderful aroma. The immediate hit is cinnamon, and pepper and they provide the background for a very smooth tobacco finish. This is the perfect cigar for when you don't have an hour to kick back, or if you are down to your last shot of whiskey to drink while smoking. Easy to light, easy draw, and an even ash throughout. One of my "Go To' favorites. I recommend it for old hands and newcomers to cigars.

Enjoy!

Excellent, Diogenes! Thank you! I really like these too!

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Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar.

Cigarsinternational.com
Cigarpage.com
Famous-smoke.com
Cigarsdaily.com
Neptunecigar.com
Smallbatchcigar.com
Bobalu Cigar Company
Cigarbid.com

A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid

Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!

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Ammo Link-O-Rama
I'm really very seriously not kidding around anymore. Buy Ammo
AmmoSeek - online ammo search tool
GunBot - online ammo search tool
SG Ammo
Palmetto State Armory
Georgia Arms
AmmoMan
Target Sports USA
Bud's Gun Shop
American Elite Ammo

***Mail Bag***

This week's mailbag entry is from our pal Fungus Boy who sends us a pretty neat-o vid.

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Please note the new and improved protonmail account gunthread at protonmail dot com. An informal Gun Thread archive can be found HERE. Future expansion plans are in the works for the site Weasel Gun Thread. If you have a question you would like to ask Gun Thread Staff offline, just send us a note and we'll do our best to answer. If you care to share the story of your favorite firearm, send a picture with your nic and tell us what you sadly lost in the tragic canoe accident. If you would like to remain completely anonymous, just say so. Lurkers are always welcome!

That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM




Comments

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1 Squib.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 24, 2023 07:01 PM (a3Q+t)

2 How to stop shooting low and left?

Don't shoot a Glock.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 24, 2023 07:03 PM (a3Q+t)

3 Merry Christmas everyone.

Posted by: whig at December 24, 2023 07:03 PM (8IKKJ)

4 I haven't done any shooting but I am watching all the John Wick movies and making a wish list.

Oooh. Nice Berneli.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 24, 2023 07:03 PM (rJ7Hd)

5 A Christmas Eve Gub thread. Does life get better than this?
Evening, Weasel!
I hope all Morons and Ettes get something Gub related in their stockings.

Posted by: RI Red at December 24, 2023 07:03 PM (U5dFd)

6 So is Santa's MAC for the good kids or "for" the bad kids, IYKWIM?

Posted by: Oddbob at December 24, 2023 07:04 PM (sNc8Y)

7 Santa carrying a Mac-10. Must be going into East St. Louis.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 24, 2023 07:04 PM (GIBR7)

8 2 How to stop shooting low and left?

Don't shoot a Glock.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 24, 2023 07:03 PM (a3Q+t

Glock shot. It's an epidemic.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 24, 2023 07:04 PM (rJ7Hd)

9 I believe I'll wait for the reviews before checking out the Body Care and Grooming video.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 24, 2023 07:05 PM (a3Q+t)

10 Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to the Weasel homestead, and additionally to all Morons of good standing! May the next year be better than the last.

Posted by: The Neon Madman at December 24, 2023 07:05 PM (yNfcm)

11 I think Santa will be very attentive to DILIT since she got a Glock (!) 44 for her birfday last month.
And it shoots high.

Posted by: RI Red at December 24, 2023 07:07 PM (U5dFd)

12 Bang X17!

Posted by: Eromero at December 24, 2023 07:08 PM (LEM+/)

13 Ok. I watched the body care and grooming.

Same as when we watched it in grade school.


Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 24, 2023 07:09 PM (rJ7Hd)

14 Howdy, all, and a very Merry Christmas to you from FOB Van Owen deep in the Shenandoah Valley! Did some shooting today and yes, now that you ask, I did shoot somewhat low and right, being a southpaw. Going upstairs in a minute to learn how to correct it.

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at December 24, 2023 07:11 PM (fnUK/)

15 Merry Christmas to all the pew pew aficionados.


Posted by: Tonypete at December 24, 2023 07:13 PM (J47y1)

16 Santa carrying a Mac-10. Must be going into East St. Louis.
Posted by: rickb223

Which, for the geography challenged, is in IL.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 24, 2023 07:14 PM (J47y1)

17 Tonight is Christmas Eve.

Remember to leave a MP5 out for St. McClane.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 24, 2023 07:14 PM (a3Q+t)

18 Ok. I watched the body care and grooming.



Short version - "Wash that stanky thing!!"

Good advice for both him and her.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 24, 2023 07:16 PM (J47y1)

19 Anyone needing black powder? Graf & Sons has bp in stock.


http://tinyurl.com/y4w2jcwe

Posted by: rickb223 at December 24, 2023 07:17 PM (GIBR7)

20 I hope all Morons and Ettes get something Gub related in their stockings.
Posted by: RI Red

Not in the stocking; but, I did get an inch-pound screwdriver after watching one of the gun cleaning videos posted by Weasel.

Thanks for *all* the gun threads Weasel!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 24, 2023 07:17 PM (i8Zf/)

21 Merry Christmas to all! I was out playing yesterday, the shop still smells of Hoppes.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 24, 2023 07:23 PM (50nRe)

22 At age 65, I've noticed that it's not a decline in muscle memory or pistol control that erodes my results at the range.

It's diminishing visual acuity which is the culprit.

Before I $pend Dollar$ on eyeball doctors, I think I'm going to try a rather wide array of "cheaters", all pretty much in the +1.75 zone, but see which maker's "grind" tends to give me the best results.

There's also the huge refractive differences between simple, clear plastic, Polycarbonate, Lexan and the newer, more exotic (and expensive) specialty optical plastics. I'll pass on glass, due to weight and fragility.

Then, various coating technologies come into play.

Might end up with a $200 set of "cheaters", but it's still gonna be le$$ than the eyeball doc.

Reminds me, of when I quit a job over a similar issue. Told the boss: "I just can't see working here anymore.", and left.

MERRY CHRISTMAS, HORDE!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 24, 2023 07:23 PM (e6UQI)

23 Reminds me, of when I quit a job over a similar issue. Told the boss: "I just can't see working here anymore.", and left.

MERRY CHRISTMAS, HORDE!

Jim

HeyOhhhhhh!!!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 24, 2023 07:24 PM (J47y1)

24 Good Sunday evening, horde. Merry Christmas Eve!

This is the first year there are no weapons for Christmas, thanks to The Incident (I will not go into it again, but two year probation is involved). No gubs. No ammo. No range time. Sob.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 24, 2023 07:24 PM (OX9vb)

25 OK, watched the video, and will try the drill tomorrow. We shall see if it pays off . . .

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at December 24, 2023 07:28 PM (fnUK/)

26 I will put in a little plug for Bobro engineering. I mentioned one of my scope mounts on my long rifle had a complete shearing of the threaded stems on one side. Couldn't figure out if it happened during the move or if I somehow screwed up the torque on the FAT wrench.

Pretty sure I didn't because the wrench was still set to the same setting as when I last mounted that scope and it was to spec. But still, all four stems sheared in half.

Anyway, they agreed to replace the mount if I just covered labor and shipping, which was a good deal since it's a hundred and fifty buck mount.

Thankfully the new design doesn't use press fit threaded stems. It's tapped and uses machine screws instead.


Kudos for a decent company and check out their mounts if you need one.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 24, 2023 07:28 PM (rJ7Hd)

27 Jim, I recently had Blepharoplasty (Gesundheit!) on both eyes and it had made a huge difference in my sight picture.

iirc - $200 out of pocket. The rest was covered by Medicare as it was medically necessary. Just something to check out.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 24, 2023 07:28 PM (J47y1)

28 Merry Christmas Eve gun threadists.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 24, 2023 07:29 PM (ju2Fy)

29 19 ... "Anyone needing black powder? Graf & Sons has bp in stock."

Just looked at the prices. Holy shit balls! 39 bucks for a pound of Swiss BP? I know it's the best black powder out there but sheesh. Makes me very happy I bought in bulk several years ago.

For those new to the hobby, Schuetzen and Grafs Classic is probably the same powder and will do a fine job. Supposedly Goex and their Olde Eynsford brand will be back in the near future. At least the ads for it have started.

Posted by: JTB at December 24, 2023 07:29 PM (7EjX1)

30 thanks to The Incident (I will not go into it again, but two year probation is involved). No gubs. No ammo. No range time. Sob.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!

Girl, I told ya, you gotta stay out of that type of place! Nothing good happens after midnight - especially when you are running with those roller derby gals!!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 24, 2023 07:30 PM (J47y1)

31 'Sup, all y'all? Merry Christmas Eve to each and every one of you!

Posted by: Weasel at December 24, 2023 07:31 PM (JwHpX)

32 Girl, I told ya, you gotta stay out of that type of place! Nothing good happens after midnight - especially when you are running with those roller derby gals!!
Posted by: Tonypete at December 24, 2023 07:30 PM (J47y1)

I know, I know! I can't help myself!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 24, 2023 07:31 PM (OX9vb)

33 Merry Christmas to the Weasel Family and to all of you gubbers.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 24, 2023 07:32 PM (V8he0)

34 Merry Christmas to all the pew pew gang. I hope Santa remembers you all.

Posted by: JTB at December 24, 2023 07:33 PM (7EjX1)

35 ..Jim, I recently had Blepharoplasty (Gesundheit!) on both eyes and it had made a huge difference in my sight picture....

Posted by: Tonypete at December 24, 2023 07:28 PM (J47y1)



My GP suggested an Optirectomy. It's a procedure where they sever the nerve that connects the asshole to the eyeball, and corrects a shitty outlook on life.

/s


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 24, 2023 07:33 PM (e6UQI)

36 Merry Christmas, gunthusiasts.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 24, 2023 07:33 PM (dec0Z)

37 I know, I know! I can't help myself!
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 24, 2023 07:31 PM (OX9vb)


Did you at least get a tattoo to remember it by?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 24, 2023 07:33 PM (rJ7Hd)

38 Just looked at the prices. Holy shit balls! 39 bucks for a pound of Swiss BP? I know it's the best black powder out there but sheesh. Makes me very happy I bought in bulk several years ago.

For those new to the hobby, Schuetzen and Grafs Classic is probably the same powder and will do a fine job. Supposedly Goex and their Olde Eynsford brand will be back in the near future. At least the ads for it have started.
Posted by: JTB


I've been running the Schuetzen waiting for Goex to come back.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 24, 2023 07:35 PM (GIBR7)

39 Weasel, you still doing spreadsheets?

Posted by: RI Red at December 24, 2023 07:36 PM (U5dFd)

40 The latest edition of Firearms News was dedicated to "Retro Guns" and had a pretty extensive article on the M10 (the company never called it a "MAC 10", although Mack Bolan seemed to favor it as a weapon of choice).

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at December 24, 2023 07:36 PM (fnUK/)

41 Did you at least get a tattoo to remember it by?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 24, 2023 07:33 PM (rJ7Hd)

F**kin' A. In three colors!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 24, 2023 07:37 PM (OX9vb)

42 Jim's on a roll tonight!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 24, 2023 07:38 PM (J47y1)

43 Good evening gub threaders and all the ships at sea!

Posted by: blaster at December 24, 2023 07:38 PM (nMiS+)

44 rickb223
What good is powder if you can't get percussion caps?

Posted by: MkY at December 24, 2023 07:39 PM (cPGH3)

45 they sever the nerve that connects the asshole to the eyeball, and corrects a shitty outlook on life.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 24, 2023 07:33 PM (e6UQI)

*snort

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 24, 2023 07:39 PM (OX9vb)

46 Sort of on topic.

Two years ago at the Texas Mo Me someone brought a bottle of Ballotin Chocolate Whiskey and it was better than it had any right to be.

Today I was in the ABC store and there was a bottle of Ballotin.

So Merry Christmas y'all!

Posted by: blaster at December 24, 2023 07:42 PM (nMiS+)

47 What good is powder if you can't get percussion caps?
Posted by: MkY


1. You make your own. #10 & #11 cap makers
http://tinyurl.com/5ftc9ee9

2. You adapt. MagSpark 209 Shot Gun Primer Adapter
http://tinyurl.com/3c2997c6

209 primers are easy to get.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 24, 2023 07:43 PM (GIBR7)

48 Somebody, somewhere, owns the old Remington plant that made #10 Remington percussion caps.
It's like owning the goose that laid the golden egg...
Is it incompetence? Ignorance? Not enough money?
Sell the damned thing, ye idjit!

Posted by: MkY at December 24, 2023 07:44 PM (cPGH3)

49 Apparently among recreational gun manufacturers (beyond 3d printing) Mac 10s are pretty popular. Apparently you can buy a kit with all the non receiver parts and if you can weld a box together you have a Mac 10.

Posted by: blaster at December 24, 2023 07:44 PM (nMiS+)

50 209 primers are easy to get.
Posted by: rickb223

Not pistol primers, rickb223.

You don't shoot bp pistols?

Posted by: MkY at December 24, 2023 07:45 PM (cPGH3)

51 Ammo supplies in the Central Texas region are beginning to dry up again.

Weasel speaks with gravitas. Do not disappoint him.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 24, 2023 07:46 PM (a3Q+t)

52 You don't shoot bp pistols?
Posted by: MkY


http://tinyurl.com/5ftc9ee9


They have kits for making #10 primers and #11 primers.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 24, 2023 07:48 PM (GIBR7)

53 ...And I'll tell you, there are workarounds. I have a kit to make my own percussion caps. They work... for about 2 months, then I get squibs (meaning they're sucking moisture).
Kid's cap guns fit on BP pistols. Very inconsistent.

Posted by: MkY at December 24, 2023 07:48 PM (cPGH3)

54 Probably won't get to the range over the holidays. They tend to be very busy with folks trying out their new toys and bringing their house guests along.

Instead I've been doing a lot of reading about reloading. I want to duplicate the load my 9mm pistols prefer in commercial ammo: a 147 grain bullet at circa 1,000 FPS. I'll be using X-Treme or Berry's plated bullets which I treat as cast, not jacketed. Also, I want to load more accurate 38 specials. I have guns capable of superb accuracy such as a K-38 and a first generation Contender but the 'historic' 148 grain wadcutter load isn't cutting it. (It could well be me.) So I'm checking on powders and charges to tweak the loads. It's a fun part of the hobby.

Posted by: JTB at December 24, 2023 07:48 PM (7EjX1)

55 Stolichnaya in front of German artillery memerobilia. Ouch.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at December 24, 2023 07:49 PM (as3uC)

56 51 Ammo supplies in the Central Texas region are beginning to dry up again.

Weasel speaks with gravitas. Do not disappoint him.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 24, 2023 07:46 PM (a3Q+t)


Those are worship words!

Posted by: blaster at December 24, 2023 07:50 PM (nMiS+)

57
Posted by: RI Red at December 24, 2023 07:36 PM (U5dFd)
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Yep. That won't slow down much until February sometime!

Posted by: Weasel at December 24, 2023 07:50 PM (JwHpX)

58 They have kits for making #10 primers and #11 primers.
Posted by: rickb223

And you answered my question with that response.
You don't shoot them.

Posted by: MkY at December 24, 2023 07:50 PM (cPGH3)

59 I have also been playing with reloading "outside of the box".

Mainly black powder shotgun loads. Solid brass shells. Hand loading. Very slow going.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 24, 2023 07:52 PM (GIBR7)

60 I have a black power rifle I've never fired.

There is usually a big shoot fest at SGT Alvin York State Historic Park in Pall Mall, TN in the spring. I'm going to run up there and see what I have and try to learn something.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 24, 2023 07:53 PM (qoGsy)

61 Those are worship words!
Posted by: blaster at December 24, 2023 07:50 PM (nMiS+)
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Ha! Merry Christmas to you and sra blaster.

Posted by: Weasel at December 24, 2023 07:53 PM (JwHpX)

62 And you answered my question with that response.
You don't shoot them.
Posted by: MkY


No. I happen to have 1k of #10. Bought them over the summer. Bird dogged all of the black powder websites daily until they came into stock. Then bought dome.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 24, 2023 07:54 PM (GIBR7)

63 I gotta try that shooting while griping the pistol with only the thumb and trigger finger drill. Of course, I'll use the 1911 in 10mm with the hot loads. What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 24, 2023 07:56 PM (yWvc2)

64 Mr. Weasel-Dude and others; greetings and felicitations at this festive season. I am looking to buy ammo, commercially, to get the most reasonable best guess accuracy. It is highly unlikely that I will be shooting at anything over 400 yards.
Weapons:
Savage 110 standard x 2; one in .243 right handed, Mrs. Bonecrusher's gun, the other is a lefty, mine, in .270; and a Thompson Encore rifle bbl, stock, in .25-06.
I have neither the time, inclination, skill level, nor $$ to sort this out from scratch.
Any help would be greatly apprectiated.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at December 24, 2023 07:57 PM (u0OdI)

65 I hate to see Santa's finger on the trigger.

Posted by: Cindy Lou Who at December 24, 2023 07:59 PM (Mzdiz)

66 Posted by: Bonecrusher at December 24, 2023 07:57 PM (u0OdI)
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Is the 110 in .308? If so, use Federal Gold Medal Match 168gr.

Posted by: Weasel at December 24, 2023 07:59 PM (JwHpX)

67 I hate to see Santa's finger on the trigger.
Posted by: Cindy Lou Who

Uh Cindy, better get Mommie or Daddie into the room with you two.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 24, 2023 08:00 PM (qoGsy)

68 44 ... "What good is powder if you can't get percussion caps?"

This is another reason I like flintlocks (besides they are just so cool). If I were a hunter and wanted a smoothbore, I would look for a flintlock fowling piece.

Actually, there are percussion caps out there but finding them requires some luck. If possible, try to buy a bulk supply. The cost will hurt but not as much as not being able to shoot.

You are right about the old Remington plant. Sell the damn thing and start up the percussion caps and primers again. There is a market.

Posted by: JTB at December 24, 2023 08:00 PM (7EjX1)

69 I guess my #64 should have been a bit more specific: what brand and bullet weight should I buy for each gun?

Posted by: Bonecrusher at December 24, 2023 08:00 PM (u0OdI)

70 Posted by: Bonecrusher at December 24, 2023 07:57 PM (u0OdI)
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Oops! Re-read the comment. I'd try the FGMM in your caliber and see how you like them.

Posted by: Weasel at December 24, 2023 08:01 PM (JwHpX)

71 You nasty!

Posted by: Cindy Lou Who at December 24, 2023 08:01 PM (Mzdiz)

72 If you're shootin low and right, aim high and left.

If you're shooting low, aim high.

If you're shooting high, stop it. Get some help.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 24, 2023 08:02 PM (rJ7Hd)

73 Ho Ho Ho
I wish I had a machine gun
A nice BAR would do

Posted by: Skip at December 24, 2023 08:02 PM (fwDg9)

74 OK, I'm oozing noobishness; what the eff is FGMM?

Posted by: Bonecrusher at December 24, 2023 08:03 PM (u0OdI)

75 69 I guess my #64 should have been a bit more specific: what brand and bullet weight should I buy for each gun?
Posted by: Bonecrusher at December 24, 2023 08:00 PM (u0OdI)
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You won't need a particularly heavy bullet to get to 400. I'd start with the FGMM in the lower end of available bullet weight options.

Posted by: Weasel at December 24, 2023 08:03 PM (JwHpX)

76 I asked Santa to put ammo in my stocking, but it tore the toe out.

That was last year.

Posted by: Cindy Lou Who at December 24, 2023 08:03 PM (Mzdiz)

77 Another reason to have the TX LTC:

Cops will never waste your time asking if you have a warrant on a stop. They already know the answer (which is: you can’t, not with an LTC).

Merry Christmas and Fröhliche Weinachten to all!

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 24, 2023 08:04 PM (e0dkU)

78 Giving a Firearm as a Gift?
How about a thread on giving your friend/loved one a clean NICS for Christmas? How to avoid fix those nasty pitfalls that will keep you forever gunless?

Also, got Liberal Tears for me and my son for Christmas. It's a gun lube. And it smells like bacon. (They must be artificially flavored, 'cause ain't no liberal that smells like bacon.)

And one of those .22 conversion kits for his AR. Which I found out after it arrived that he's having trouble with said AR. So Christmas gift might be fixing his gun.

But people are sick, having to work, etc. It's kind of an ugly Christmas. But it's still Christmas!

I have to run off to Christmas Eve Candlelight Service.
Merry Christmas to all, and to all a Gun Night!

Posted by: GWB at December 24, 2023 08:04 PM (sSx7k)

79 FGMM = Federal Gold Medal Match ammo.

Posted by: Weasel at December 24, 2023 08:04 PM (JwHpX)

80 Merry Christmas and Fröhliche Weinachten to all!

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 24, 2023 08:04 PM (e0dkU)

I wish I had a nice glass of wine right now, but rum and coke will have to do.

Posted by: Cindy Lou Who at December 24, 2023 08:06 PM (Mzdiz)

81 Is the 110 in .308? If so, use Federal Gold Medal Match 168gr.

+1

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 24, 2023 08:09 PM (V8he0)

82 Ho ho ho kids, you ever find yourself in a tight quarters situation where suppressive firepower is a must but precise accuracy might not be?

Kids in that situation the Kringle family relies on our friend the Ingram Mac-10 with Sionics suppressor, because high volume gunfire is sometimes a necessity but bothering the neighbors never is.

//S Claus

Posted by: sven at December 24, 2023 08:10 PM (X0I7i)

83 If you're shooting high, stop it. Get some help.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 24, 2023 08:02 PM (rJ7Hd)

Or grab Yes’s “Big Generator” album.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 24, 2023 08:12 PM (e0dkU)

84 Evening, folken! Miss Linda and I just had our Christmas Eve dinner, baked shrimp with brown rice-based macaroni. Yes, it was good. She is an accomplished cook, though she keeps referring to her concoctions as "gruel."

Anyway! 'Tis raining and in the mid-'60s here. We plan to go to the Christmas Eve mass at her church about 3/4 of a mile away. If the rain doesn't slacken, though, I don't know if we can do it.

Regarding cigars: I bought a tin of Romeo y Julieta cigarillos (the blue tin) earlier this year, but have not had the nerve to light one up. I figure I should do it outdoors; pipe tobacco usually smells pretty good indoors, and mild to boot, but I'm not sure about cigarillos. Anybody had these? Are they strong?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2023 08:12 PM (omVj0)

85 59 ... "Mainly black powder shotgun loads. Solid brass shells. Hand loading. Very slow going."

Those brass shells are wonderful and reloadable but aren't always available and are expensive. There are videos on reloading regular plastic shells with BP. They might be good only once but once fired shells are very cheap and the various wads are inexpensive or can be made at home. But as you said, it's a slow process although it's like using an old Lee Precision whack-a-mole 12 or 20 gauge kit. Figure about a minute per shell start to finish once you get the feel for it. Good enough for some hunting loads or the occasional round of trap or skeet.

Posted by: JTB at December 24, 2023 08:14 PM (7EjX1)

86 Weihnachtsabend! (Also the title of a fine alternate-history short story about the Third Reich winning the war, by Keith Roberts.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2023 08:14 PM (omVj0)

87 Merry Christmas Horde!

"Ammo supplies in the Central Texas region are beginning to dry up again."

Aren't you guys getting to vote to secede from the Union?

Posted by: Autumn at December 24, 2023 08:18 PM (gavCW)

88 If you're shooting high, stop it. Get some help.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at December 24, 2023 08:02 PM


Man, you're really harshing our mellow here, man.

Posted by: The Hunters, Thompson and Biden at December 24, 2023 08:21 PM (a3Q+t)

89 Those brass shells are wonderful and reloadable but aren't always available and are expensive. There are videos on reloading regular plastic shells with BP. They might be good only once but once fired shells are very cheap and the various wads are inexpensive or can be made at home. But as you said, it's a slow process although it's like using an old Lee Precision whack-a-mole 12 or 20 gauge kit. Figure about a minute per shell start to finish once you get the feel for it. Good enough for some hunting loads or the occasional round of trap or skeet.
Posted by: JTB


Ballistic Products and MidwayUSA carry the MagTech, whick semi suck because those use Large pistol primers.

You want expensive?
rockymountaincartridge.com

They turn each shell from billet brass. But those DO take 209 primers. They also make a bunch of hard to find shells.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 24, 2023 08:21 PM (GIBR7)

90 Merry Christmas all!

I have a question for Whig and anyone else who has taken a 303 British apart.

I'm trying to remove the butt stock... I finally got a screwdriver big enough for the job. My problem now is that it won't budge. If I could I'd spray some lubricant down there, but I can't so I won't.

Any suggestions on getting that screw to budge? I really don't want to keep trying and strip it.

Thanks all

Posted by: 496 at December 24, 2023 08:21 PM (9tBL+)

91 Texas is running out of ammo killing wild hogs

Posted by: Skip at December 24, 2023 08:21 PM (fwDg9)

92 No particular gun stuff today.

I did get stopped by a Georgia State Trooper yesterday and while he was checking my license I used the USCCA app to see if it was a duty to inform state and it is not. So I didn't mention it.

Btw the trooper had been an EOD guy and he saw my crab sticker on my truck and got to talking and he tore up the ticket.

Posted by: blaster at December 24, 2023 08:22 PM (nMiS+)

93 The Hunters. Bravo, Horde!

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at December 24, 2023 08:24 PM (as3uC)

94 Don't talk to the police? This should be your default position, especially if you feel like you have to explain yourself or defend yourself. If the police ask, you can tell them what you are Right Here and Right Now. Beyond that, say that you are invoking your right to remain silent. Exceptions? Sure, but use caution.

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at December 24, 2023 08:28 PM (VVlwS)

95 For the pipe smokers here and others of refinement: if you get a chance at the Cornell and Diehl Anthology 2023 limited run, buy some. It is a superb blend of several kinds of red Virginia tobaccos, including some aged Georgia red leaf. It is rich and slightly sweet (natural , not cased) and satisfying. I splurged on five tins. It should age well. It's the kind of tobacco to save for special moments. I wish it could be offered in bulk.

Yeah, I like it. In fact I've had good luck with all the C and D small batch and limited run blends.

Posted by: JTB at December 24, 2023 08:29 PM (7EjX1)

96 Tonight, in lieu of cookies I will be leaving 100 rounds of 9mm Luger out for the gentleman in red.

Delivering presents in SoCal requires preparedness.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 24, 2023 08:30 PM (bo7UB)

97 Wild hogs kill ammo?

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at December 24, 2023 08:30 PM (as3uC)

98 Wild hogs kill ammo?
Posted by: Hokey Pokey


They kill the stockpile of ammo.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 24, 2023 08:31 PM (GIBR7)

99 Remember a TV comedian long ago about a dad who went outside Christmas Eve, fired a shot, and told his kids Santa committed suicide

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at December 24, 2023 08:33 PM (Ek9cT)

100 Stolichnaya in front of German artillery memerobilia. Ouch.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at December 24, 2023 07:49 PM (as3uC)


Heh.
I didn't think of that until after I'd sent it to Weasel.
The plaque was a gift from them. I was asked to brief them after Desert Storm. In Germany 2 Artillery was always on our flank should the Rooskies ever cross the Border.
So I go brief them and there are about 100 officers there and my translator was doing a great job.
My only fu*k up was telling them for years I always was comforted by seeing them on the flank and suddenly it was the Arab corps. "You were missed."
While they appreciated it, it seems word got back to the embassy. Oops !

Posted by: Diogenes at December 24, 2023 08:33 PM (W/lyH)

101 For the pipe smokers here and others of refinement: if you get a chance at the Cornell and Diehl Anthology 2023 limited run, buy some. It is a superb blend of several kinds of red Virginia tobaccos, including some aged Georgia red leaf. It is rich and slightly sweet (natural , not cased) and satisfying. I splurged on five tins. It should age well. It's the kind of tobacco to save for special moments. I wish it could be offered in bulk.

Yeah, I like it. In fact I've had good luck with all the C and D small batch and limited run blends.
Posted by: JTB at December 24, 2023


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Doesn't it have perique in it? The few times I've tried something with that leaf (might have known it'd be something peculiar to Lousy-ana), I've found the blend far too strong. I tried some Haunted Bookshop and gave it away: too cigar-like.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2023 08:33 PM (omVj0)

102 How about shoots exactly where it's pointed? Better than the shooter could hope to.

The weapon's been doing that for every shooter who ever picked it up. My Dad gifted me with it when he could no longer use it accurately. The weapon is a 1911A1. It simply does it's assigned job with no fanfare or issues. Yearly I run it over to a very competent gunsmith for inspection and/or repair as required. Thus far function has been flawless. That HAS to be, this is my carry piece.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 24, 2023 08:34 PM (KATBx)

103 Oh Mrs D is soooooo lucky!!!
Santa scored a box of .380 for her!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 24, 2023 08:35 PM (W/lyH)

104 Remember a TV comedian long ago about a dad who went outside Christmas Eve, fired a shot, and told his kids Santa committed suicide
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at December 24, 2023


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That sounds like Rodney Dangerfield in his early, standup days, but I think the gag was on TV before him. Sid Caesar, maybe?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2023 08:35 PM (omVj0)

105 That sounds like Rodney Dangerfield in his early, standup days, but I think the gag was on TV before him. Sid Caesar, maybe?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2023 08:35 PM (omVj0)


Soupy Sales?

Posted by: Diogenes at December 24, 2023 08:37 PM (W/lyH)

106 A Christmas toast to all ye of the gub persuasion!

Posted by: Eromero at December 24, 2023 08:38 PM (NxC5+)

107 If the Who’s had a 2A, the Grinch would have been stopped by the second house

Posted by: Robm at December 24, 2023 08:39 PM (kUcoi)

108 Pipe tobacco: I've tried only two C & D blends. First was Gentleman Caller, which has deer tongue in it (no, it's an herb; no deer were harmed during the production of this blend). It sounded good in description but did nothing for me. The other was their Christmas 2021 blend Alpine Lodge, which came to me as a freebie when I bought a Peterson pipe that December. Sort of chocolate-ish and strong. I mixed it with other, milder tobaccos and made the cake last ten months. That one I wish they'd bring back.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2023 08:39 PM (omVj0)

109 The sidebar says Trump may have Haley as his VP. This is another reason for me to go with DeSantis, who is not a flashy campaigner but did everything right during Covid, gets rid of leftist, do-nothing district attorneys, knows how to get Florida infrastructure rebuilt after a hurricane, and supports 2A rights. And more.

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at December 24, 2023 08:39 PM (uGwbd)

110 Soupy Sales?
Posted by: Diogenes at December 24, 2023 08:37 PM (W/lyH)

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FWIW, Soupy Sales singlehandedly popularized the shaving cream pie.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 24, 2023 08:39 PM (bo7UB)

111 Here's the BP flintlock I'm buying this Christmas!

http://tinyurl.com/y28932mw

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at December 24, 2023 08:40 PM (2yu8s)

112 That sounds like Rodney Dangerfield in his early, standup days, but I think the gag was on TV before him. Sid Caesar, maybe?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2023
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Soupy Sales?
Posted by: Diogenes at December 24, 2023


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Maybe. But the tone of the gag has that sour, downbeat note you'd expect from somebody like Dangerfield. Sales was always an upbeat and physical comedy sort of guy, I think.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2023 08:40 PM (omVj0)

113 ‘The hell with them fellas. Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms.!
- Josey Wales

Posted by: Eromero at December 24, 2023 08:41 PM (NxC5+)

114 Bonecrusher.

Are you going to be looking for TARGET ammo, or HUNTING ammo?

You gotta be in the Right Bullet Zone as to your options, there.

Sierra does make an alternate to the Match King bullet, it's called the Game King. The literature says it's made to the same standards, and should produce very nearly the same exterior ballistics. But, the bullet is made to hold together and properly "mushroom" as it transits Mr. Deer.

Trick is, then, finding a manufacturer who might produce Match Grade Ammo, while using the Game King (or other super-premium) hunting bullets.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 24, 2023 08:42 PM (e6UQI)

115 I have a tendency to shoot low and left and just as the man says it's from squeezing the grip as I squeeze the trigger. Really have to work that out..

3 Merry Christmas everyone.

Posted by: whig at December 24, 2023 07:03 PM (8IKKJ)

Merry Christmas whig. Hope you are faring well.

Posted by: javems at December 24, 2023 08:42 PM (8I4hW)

116 Maybe. But the tone of the gag has that sour, downbeat note you'd expect from somebody like Dangerfield. Sales was always an upbeat and physical comedy sort of guy, I think.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2023


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Maybe Jackie Vernon, or Jackie Mason? Or Alan King?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2023 08:42 PM (omVj0)

117 Aren't you guys getting to vote to secede from the Union?
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Only after CA joins them!!!

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at December 24, 2023 08:43 PM (2yu8s)

118 andycanuck I have the short land pattern
It a load of fun

Posted by: Skip at December 24, 2023 08:44 PM (fwDg9)

119 As for trying new pipe tobaccos, I've bought and smoked some St. Bruno, which is moderately strong for me and which I've held down to ten or twelve minutes' puffing at one time. Tomorrow I will try my Xmas gift to myself, some Amphora Full Aroma, in a vintage Fader's paneled apple-shape pipe. Again, as I do with any new leaf, I'll limit the session until I know how it affects me.

JTB, did you want to know about Peterson's Early Morning Pipe English blend? I cracked a tin this morning. Quite nice and mild, and goes well with coffee.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2023 08:46 PM (omVj0)

120 #114 Jim in Galveston: Punching holes in paper is nifty for practice, but that gets expensive. I much prefer using that which I am going to depend upon. From what I have gathered, bullet weight - other things being constant - is the deciding factor. Barrel harmonics and other such things not withstanding.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at December 24, 2023 08:47 PM (u0OdI)

121 101 ... Good evening, Wolfus.
The Anthology 2023 doesn't have perique, it's all Virginia leaf. It has plenty of flavor and by my standards I consider it medium strength. I like a little perique in many blends, especially if it is aged, but too much overpowers the rest of the blend.

Posted by: JTB at December 24, 2023 08:47 PM (7EjX1)

122 Aren't you guys getting to vote to secede from the Union?
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Only after CA joins them!!!
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at December 24, 2023 08:43 PM (2yu8s)
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Gotta start small.
Today I seceded from the HOA.
Next week...Puyallup!
Ha! That that Native American casino owners!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 24, 2023 08:48 PM (W/lyH)

123 Here's the BP flintlock I'm buying this Christmas!

http://tinyurl.com/y28932mw
Posted by: andycanuck


Original British Early P1730 Long Land Pattern Brown Bess Flintlock Musket by Vaughan Dated 1731 with Skirted Bottom Bayonet
Regular price $59,995.00


Nice.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 24, 2023 08:49 PM (GIBR7)

124 The Anthology 2023 doesn't have perique, it's all Virginia leaf. It has plenty of flavor and by my standards I consider it medium strength. I like a little perique in many blends, especially if it is aged, but too much overpowers the rest of the blend.
Posted by: JTB at December 24, 2023


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You're right! My personal jury is still out on red Virginias, though. Peterson's Sherlock Holmes blend has that, and that leaf does not sit well with me. Maybe it's too strong and I need to mix it with a milder Virginia.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2023 08:53 PM (omVj0)

125 Christmas Eve, and I had to turn the A/C on; the air in here was getting too warm and damp. Revolting.

To the tune of "Winter Wonderland":

"Later on, we'll perspire --
'Is that A/C? Turn it higher!'
We drive and we grump
O'er potholes and bumps,
Sweating in a sticky swampy land!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2023 08:55 PM (omVj0)

126 andycanuck I have the short land pattern
It a load of fun
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Seriously though, I was wondering about a Baker rifle or the percussion-cap lookalike, Brunswick rifle!

https://militaryheritage.com/baker.htm

I understand the Sharpe series had the guys in the background using Brunswick rifles to have better ignition than true flintlocks. Especially with actors using them.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at December 24, 2023 08:55 PM (2yu8s)

127 ...From what I have gathered, bullet weight - other things being constant - is the deciding factor. Barrel harmonics and other such things not withstanding.
Posted by: Bonecrusher at December 24, 2023 08:47 PM (u0OdI)


If I'm reading you correctly, you're wanting the best possible accuracy, but with the filling of freezer, as your primary purpose. In which case, I'd advise you to avoid any "match" ammo, completely. Dive into how Hunting bullets are made, vs. Match (target) bullets.

Hunting bullets are made with a great emphasis on bonding, (mechanically, chemically or both) the lead core to the copper jacket. The jacket is often "skived", creating pre-existing failure points, so that the jacket will peel backwards on impact, creating a "mushroom" shape. This will transmit the most energy to the game, and do the most physical damage, in hopes of a Quick Kill.

Conversely, target bullets, though made with great precision and care, simply ignore any post-impact physics in their design and construction. Once they've pierced the paper, they've completed their job.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 24, 2023 08:55 PM (e6UQI)

128 #114, 120: Bullet weight at the constant velocity is the deciding factor. The degree of expansion is really important, however, a 400 yard ice pick, if well placed, will kill just as dead. Ideally, I would like lots of expansion and really accurate, predictable, and linear in its profile.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at December 24, 2023 08:55 PM (u0OdI)

129 OK, folks - I have it on good authority that Santa won't visit until we're all fast asleep. Thanks again for the thread, Weasel, and see you New Year's Eve.
Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night!

Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at December 24, 2023 08:56 PM (fnUK/)

130
***

Gotta start small.
Today I seceded from the HOA.

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PRO TIP: Now you need to ally with the French.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 24, 2023 08:56 PM (bo7UB)

131 Our little ETEX moron group, hogmartin and the Eromeros, shot yesterday on steel. We all agreed steel’s more satisfying than paper. Mrs. E shot hogmartin’s Walther and G17, my SA35, G43, and G19, and her Kimber Micro9 and G17. Good clean fun, and Chinese Christmas supper. Fa ra ra ra ra.

Posted by: Eromero at December 24, 2023 08:57 PM (NxC5+)

132 Gotta start small.
Today I seceded from the HOA.

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PRO TIP: Now you need to ally with the French.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 24, 2023 08:56 PM (bo7UB)
***

The cul-de-sac of Diogenes will stand for Liberty, Equality, and single malt scotch! And good cigars everywhere! Oh...and three round bursts.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 24, 2023 09:01 PM (W/lyH)

133 Wolfus and other pipe smokers.

Try C and D's Autumn Evening blend. It is available in tins or in bulk. I get a pound at a time. It is VERY flavorful but the strength is mild. It is my favorite C and D offering in bulk.

I haven't tried Early Morning Pipe for many years but it has a great reputation. I should pick up a tin to try it again.

I love Amphora tobaccos, especially the full aroma and original styles. I find it is best smoked slowly. Seems to let more of the taste come through without any harshness. I should try some in a churchwarden.

Posted by: JTB at December 24, 2023 09:01 PM (7EjX1)

134 #127 Jim; You are correct, our posts crossed in the stream. Sometimes I have to think of 2 legs in additon to 4. It really pains me to have to think that way, but these are the times in which we exist.

May you and yours be blessed, safe, and prosperous in the new year.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at December 24, 2023 09:01 PM (u0OdI)

135 I love Amphora tobaccos, especially the full aroma and original styles. I find it is best smoked slowly. Seems to let more of the taste come through without any harshness. I should try some in a churchwarden.
Posted by: JTB at December 24, 2023


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Slow is my plan. I am figuring to work out, eat breakfast while I dry some of the leaf on a saucer, and then give the Amphora a try.

The stuff used to be available in pouches, along with Sir Walter Raleigh, Half & Half, Sail, and Prince Albert, at your local drugstore or even grocery. Not any more. Walmart has those pipe tobacco cigars and everything else in the tobacco line, it seems, except pipe supplies.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2023 09:05 PM (omVj0)

136 To Team Weasel, shooter peeps and fellow Hordemates. May you all be blessed this Christmas and into the new year. And my you be free of misfires, canoe accidents, and shitty cigars.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 24, 2023 09:06 PM (W/lyH)

137 andycanuck recently and have yet to shoot a Thompson Center 50 cal Hawkin replica, it's not far off what a Prussian Jager rifle would be.

Posted by: Skip at December 24, 2023 09:07 PM (fwDg9)

138 Accurate hunting round. Winchester Ballistic Silvertip Supreme.

Posted by: Teej at December 24, 2023 09:07 PM (spJU8)

139 The cul-de-sac of Diogenes will stand for Liberty, Equality, and single malt scotch! And good cigars everywhere! Oh...and three round bursts.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 24, 2023 09:01 PM (W/lyH)

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Scores of freedom-lovers and drunks will rally to your flag.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 24, 2023 09:08 PM (bo7UB)

140 Mrs. E shot hogmartin’s Walther and G17, my SA35, G43, and G19, and her Kimber Micro9 and G17. Good clean fun, and Chinese Christmas supper. Fa ra ra ra ra.
Posted by: Eromero at December 24, 2023 08:57 PM


* sheds a tear at the minority representation *

Posted by: zombie J.M. Browning at December 24, 2023 09:08 PM (a3Q+t)

141 The dog is indicating it's time for her evening constitutional. If I'm not back before the ONT goes up, I hope all y'all have a lovely and merry Christmas.

Posted by: JTB at December 24, 2023 09:10 PM (7EjX1)

142 Do you have Sir Walter Raleigh in the can??

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at December 24, 2023 09:10 PM (2yu8s)

143 I wants to thank everyone thats attended the Brattleboro Gay Pride Christmass Party tonigte because it was an big success. We also gots a Email from Presdent Obama wishing all of us a Happy Holidays. What has you done to promote peece and goodwill this Christmass ???

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vt at December 24, 2023 09:11 PM (qpLSv)

144 zombie J.M. Browning @ 140-
You did hear me say Springfield Armory SA35, right?

Posted by: Eromero at December 24, 2023 09:11 PM (NxC5+)

145 Do you have Sir Walter Raleigh in the can??
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at December 24, 2023


***
King James did!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2023 09:12 PM (omVj0)

146 recently and have yet to shoot a Thompson Center 50 cal Hawkin replica, it's not far off what a Prussian Jager rifle would be.
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I'll look right now.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at December 24, 2023 09:12 PM (2yu8s)

147 I know it must be wrong but, I'm in love with Clogginstein's mom.

Posted by: Fountains of Wayne at December 24, 2023 09:13 PM (bo7UB)

148 Mary, your holiday kwanza! is day after tomorrow . Why don’t you go make up some kinda history to go along with it, yo?

Posted by: Eromero at December 24, 2023 09:15 PM (NxC5+)

149 141 The dog is indicating it's time for her evening constitutional. If I'm not back before the ONT goes up, I hope all y'all have a lovely and merry Christmas.
Posted by: JTB at December 24, 2023 09:10 PM (7EjX1)

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If you don't come back, we'd send the dog out for you, except the dog's already with you.

Posted by: Fountains of Wayne at December 24, 2023 09:16 PM (bo7UB)

150 I know it must be wrong but, I'm in love with Clogginstein's mom.
Posted by: Fountains of Wayne at December 24, 2023 09:13 PM (bo7UB)


Ahhh...the love that cannot speak its name.

So. Anyway, love my Israeli Arms Baby Eagle. I'm at the age where it is more accurate than my eyes.

Sigh...

Posted by: Diogenes at December 24, 2023 09:16 PM (W/lyH)

151 Good evening everyone and Merry Christmas to all.
Wife’s getting a very nice surprise under the tree and a couple of neat accessories in her stock. Two young men of our acquaintance are coming over tomorrow afternoon for a bit of dry practice and familiarization before a next weekend trip to the local range for some black powder experience.
Thank you Weasel for the wonderful hospitality here

Posted by: Coelacanth at December 24, 2023 09:21 PM (NqGS/)

152 Merry Christmas and Thank You! I just gifted myself a 10 visit gift card to the local indoor range at half-price. I know what my New Year Resolution will involve!

Posted by: Johnny Lanctot at December 24, 2023 09:22 PM (OrDr0)

153 You see something like "printing"
and figure that I'm strapped.
But, no, it's my colostomy
bag in which I crapped.
🤢

Sorry. Where else but here could I have posted that?!
Gotta keep up a senska humors
waiting on the wonders of modern med.....

Posted by: mindful webworker - Christmas webworks linked in nic - that's here at December 24, 2023 09:23 PM (v4x4L)

154 You did hear me say Springfield Armory SA35, right?
Posted by: Eromero at December 24, 2023 09:11 PM


I did, which is why I said minority representation, rather than no representation.

Posted by: zombie J.M. Browning at December 24, 2023 09:23 PM (a3Q+t)

155 148 Mary, your holiday kwanza! is day after tomorrow . Why don’t you go make up some kinda history to go along with it, yo?
Posted by: Eromero at December 24, 2023 09:15 PM (NxC5+)

Not Boxing Day?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 24, 2023 09:23 PM (e0dkU)

156 Wife’s getting a very nice surprise under the tree and a couple of neat accessories in her stock. Two young men of our acquaintance are coming over tomorrow afternoon for a bit of dry practice and familiarization

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The Paolo, he sees the, how do you say, the tragedy of this idea.

Posted by: The Paolo at December 24, 2023 09:25 PM (bo7UB)

157 I gave one of my sisters in law the gift of a CCW class for Christmas

Posted by: blaster at December 24, 2023 09:25 PM (nMiS+)

158 Hopefully Ace has completed his annual CoB evaluations before now, because it's gonna be tough to beat the number of Food Thread comments, unless there's a sudden rush.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 24, 2023 09:27 PM (a3Q+t)

159 I have to say not shot a HiPower in mumbly years, the SA35 made me feel like a young man again. No really, damn thing is slicker than snot and accurate. I did add an extractor and extended safety by Cylinder & Slide. Sweet shooter, either hand.

Posted by: Eromero at December 24, 2023 09:30 PM (NxC5+)

160 I gave one of my sisters in law the gift of a CCW class for Christmas
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The gift that keeps on gunning,

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at December 24, 2023 09:32 PM (2yu8s)

161 Finshed wrapping up stuff for the night. Last two items were a Ruger Security 380 (EZ coxk edition) for wifey and Canik MC9 For:Me From:Me.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 24, 2023 09:33 PM (cOq4q)

162 Evenin' Horde and Merry Christmas!

Santa isn't bringing me any gun stuff because I'm the only gun nut in the family. But I officially have funds in hand to start looking for my very own Highway Patrolman. And perhaps a 12 gauge. Maybe another 1911... But first, the Highway Patrolman!

As of Wednesday my gubs, ammo, mom, cat, and I will all be relocating to SiD (Half) Acres. I've only met one neighbor so far, but she is a gun owner. I'm gonna like this 'hood.

Posted by: screaming in digital at December 24, 2023 09:34 PM (WSDq0)

163 161 Finshed wrapping up stuff for the night. Last two items were a Ruger Security 380 (EZ coxk edition) for wifey and Canik MC9 For:Me From:Me.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 24, 2023 09:33 PM (cOq4q)

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Rats.

Posted by: Ralphie at December 24, 2023 09:34 PM (bo7UB)

164 OK, 9:35 thank you and Merry Christmas time!

Thank you and Merry Christmas!

Posted by: Weasel at December 24, 2023 09:35 PM (JwHpX)

165 Late to the gub party, but..

Yay! Gubs!

Thanks again for another great Gun Thread, Weasel. A merry Christmas to you and yours!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 24, 2023 09:35 PM (rru9C)

166 Night, Weasel. Merry Christmas to you and WW and W pets..

Posted by: RI Red at December 24, 2023 09:40 PM (U5dFd)

167 Merry Christmas SiD - I took the Missus over to the Laramie range a week ago Friday, but Roy had to attend a Christmas party so we missed him. Still had a great time though!

Good luck with your move!

Posted by: 496 at December 24, 2023 09:41 PM (SNfTR)

168 Turn on the interior light.

*BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM*
"He was trying to blind me and I was afraid for my life!"

Roll down your window.

"I detect a strong odor of marijuana and alcohol and plastic explosive. Step out of the car. NOW! STEP OUT OF THE FUCKING CAR, BITCH!"

Talk to the police a whole bunch.

"You're under arrest for murder. Put YOUR FUCKING HANDS BEHIND YOUR BACK! STOP RESISTING!!"

Anything you do and say can and will be twisted against you. This guy thinks we're living in fucking Mayberry.

Posted by: Seriously - ask for your lawyer. Shut the fuck up. at December 24, 2023 09:43 PM (YxNDc)

169 No I don’t know how fast I was going, Officer. Do you?

Posted by: Eromero at December 24, 2023 09:48 PM (NxC5+)

170 Are you asking me as to speculate what was happening in your mind when you decided to pull me over?!?

Posted by: Bonecrusher at December 24, 2023 09:50 PM (u0OdI)

171 Merry Christmas, Weasel, Mrs. Weasel, and all the Weasel Critters, great and small.

May the presents under your tree be replete with walnut, blue steel, sharp optics and even sharper blades.

And, thank YOU, sir, for the gifts of lo, these past fifty or so Gun Threads, which are surely among the finest shooty literature to be found, online or otherwise.

A New Year soon awaits. No matter what all else happens "out there", I'm certain that "in here" shall remain of the best, of the brightest and of the finest of friends, in both pixel and life.

Peace on Earth, Goodwill to Men. Amen.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 24, 2023 09:51 PM (e6UQI)

172 Peace on Earth, Goodwill to Men. Amen.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at December 24, 2023 09:51 PM

Preach it. Merry Christmas, Jim!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 24, 2023 09:53 PM (rru9C)

173 Just saw a Planned Parenthood commercial on The Outlaw Josey Wales. What the everloving…..?

Posted by: Eromero at December 24, 2023 09:55 PM (NxC5+)

174 Merry Christmas Horde.

Hope to see everyone tomorrow.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 24, 2023 09:56 PM (GIBR7)

175 Merry Christmas 496!

I have been thinking a LOT about last Christmas lately. Miss going to the range with y'all.

Posted by: screaming in digital at December 24, 2023 09:57 PM (WSDq0)

176 SiD.

You get that Highway Patrolman, and I'll send you a set of Pachymer Gripper Pro grips, to adorn that N frame goodness.

Best hand-to-grip revolver interface I've ever held and fired. And I've held and fired... how do I say... LOTS of different revolvers.

Let me know when you've tracked down and taken your 28-2 prey. I'll arrange shipping, and they'll be on their way.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 24, 2023 10:01 PM (e6UQI)

177 Many thanks, Jim, I'll certainly keep you posted. After Christmas I'll give Stinky's Daddy a call for advice.

Posted by: screaming in digital at December 24, 2023 10:07 PM (WSDq0)

178 Noodus ONT

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 24, 2023 10:26 PM (omVj0)

179 As of Wednesday my gubs, ammo, mom, cat, and I will all be relocating to SiD (Half) Acres. I've only met one neighbor so far, but she is a gun owner. I'm gonna like this 'hood.
Posted by: screaming in digital at December 24, 2023 09:34 PM (WSDq0)

I hope and pray it's a wonderful neighborhood, SiD. Merry Christmas!

Posted by: GWB at December 24, 2023 11:41 PM (sSx7k)

180 He is wrong about Michigan and the Duty to Inform...

Handing the office your weapons permit is NOT sufficient.

The first thing you need to say to the officer in Michigan during an OFFICIAL interaction like a traffic stop is:

"I am legally required to inform you that I have a Concealed Weapons Permit and that I have weapon(s) concealed about person and/or vehicle."

Michigan court decisions REQUIRE that something substantially similar to this be spoken to the officer within 30-60 seconds of the interaction starting...

Long Time Michigan CPL holder

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Posted by: Theoryman at December 25, 2023 06:08 AM (2F/df)

181 180: In TX it is highly recommended. The cops will see you have an LTC anyway once they run your license. Cops are prima donnas at best and incredibly evil assholes with an insatiable lust for power at worst, so it’s best to just given them the LTC at a traffic stop in TX.

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