Whistleblowers: One of the "Analysts" Who Declared the Hunter Biden Laptop "Russian Disinformation" Just Happened to be One of the "Analysts" In Crossfire Hurricane Who Vetted the Carter Page Warrant

Every time they have political dirtywork to be done, they turn to the same two dozen trusted partisan ringers they know will deliver the results they've all agreed to in advance and claim it's all "objective analysis."

The ICA is the "Intelligence Community Assessment," the validating document cooked up by John Brennan to validate and add a an official government veneer to the conspiracy theory which had been cooked up by Hillary Clinton that there were "suspicious contacts" between Putin and Trump.

And this same asshole -- who I guess is some kind of French Davidian "Christian" cornpone conspiracist* -- drafted that discredited hoax, and then, because he had done such stunning work there, was asked to interview Igor Danchenko, the leftwing analyst at the Brookings Institute who wanted a job in Hillary Clinton's Administration. And he found Igor Danchenko's claims... credible!

Spoiler: they were later admitted based purely on baseless speculation and rumor or entirely fabricated.

And because he had shown himself to be such a reliably credulous devourer of the sort of propaganda and conspiracy theory favored by John Brennan and Hillary Clinton, he was, of course, asked to judge the authenticity of the Hunter Biden laptop, because when you've got this kind of a track record, why not?!

And he wasn't the only ringer they brought in.

Jerry Dunleavy at the Washington Examiner:

The FBI's investigation into Hunter Biden wrongly labeled verified evidence as "disinformation," agency whistleblowers claimed.
Agents investigating President Joe Biden's son "opened an assessment which was used by an FBI headquarters team to improperly discredit negative Hunter Biden information as disinformation and caused investigative activity to cease," according to Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA). Grassley revealed the claim after his office received "a significant number of protected communications from highly credible whistleblowers" about the investigation. The Republican claimed one of the communications shows "verified and verifiable derogatory information on Hunter Biden was falsely labeled as disinformation."

FBI supervisory intelligence agent Brian Auten opened in August 2020 the assessment that was later used by the agency, according to the disclosures. One of the whistleblowers claimed the FBI assistant special agent in charge of the Washington field office, Timothy Thibault, shut down a line of inquiry into Hunter Biden in October 2020 despite some of the details being known to be true at the time.
A whistleblower also said Thibault "ordered closed" an "avenue of additional derogatory Hunter Biden reporting," according to Grassley, even though "all of the reporting was either verified or verifiable via criminal search warrants." The senator said Thibault "ordered the matter closed without providing a valid reason as required" and that FBI officials "subsequently attempted to improperly mark the matter in FBI systems so that it could not be opened in the future," according to the disclosures.
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The whistleblower disclosures "appear to indicate that there was a scheme in place among certain FBI officials to undermine derogatory information connected to Hunter Biden by falsely suggesting it was disinformation," Grassley said. The new allegations, summarized by Grassley in a Monday letter to Attorney General Merrick Garland and FBI Director Christopher Wray, were previously unknown.
The new information comes after Auten was involved in the Trump-Russia investigation, including interviewing Igor Danchenko, the alleged main source for British ex-spy Christopher Steele's dossier in 2017. Congressional sources confirmed to the Washington Examiner that Auten is the "Supervisory Intel Agent" from DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz's 2019 report on Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act abuse.

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Thibault, who investigated corruption in the nation's capital, may have violated the hosta Act over his social media posts criticizing then-President Donald Trump and then-Attorney General William Barr in 2020, according to Horowitz last month.

* Actually, he appears to just be an advisor on "ethics" in national security, who calls for the US to get rid of all of its nuclear weapons unilaterally as a matter of Christian ethics.

So of course that's the kind of leftwing Christian the Deep State would reach out to recruit as a ringer for an "analyst" in their anti-Republican/pro-Hillary, pro-Biden political dirty work.

And what's a guy whose expertise, such as it is, is in Christian ethics doing "analyzing" stuff for authenticity, which has nothing at all to do with ethics, Christian or otherwise?

Except to the extent that perhaps he felt that his leftwing conception of Jesus wanted Hillary and Joe Biden to defeat The Devil Trump?

Posted by: Ace at 06:00 PM

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1 In my expert medical opinion, I found the FBI to be very helpful.

Posted by: Dr. Larry Nasser at July 25, 2022 06:03 PM (cY9wR)

2 Also, first, as I was in the case of many of my 'patients'.

Thanks again FBI; couldn't have done it without you!

Posted by: Dr. Larry Nasser at July 25, 2022 06:04 PM (cY9wR)

3 Amazing how with 35,000 employees the FBI can't seem to find anyone else to work on cases that involve democrats committing crimes

Posted by: Ghost Pournell at July 25, 2022 06:04 PM (Raony)

4 Darn it, stopped to read the content.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 25, 2022 06:05 PM (bVYXr)

5 Actually, this is completely believable.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 25, 2022 06:06 PM (diceA)

6 "I'm shocked! Shocked! That there is gambling going on in this establishment."

Posted by: Tonypete at July 25, 2022 06:06 PM (6WCwE)

7 It's incest all the way down.

Posted by: fluffy at July 25, 2022 06:07 PM (UnQlg)

8 Oddly, I am not sure our government should have access to nukes either.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 25, 2022 06:08 PM (diceA)

9 They think they should be America's Praetorian Guard.

Posted by: rd at July 25, 2022 06:08 PM (Z32m1)

10 And of course nothing will be done about it... They have parading Grandmas to throw in jail...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2022 06:08 PM (bs+z0)

11 I wonder when someone is going to position the FBI for success, because right now, it's more toxic than Kamala.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at July 25, 2022 06:08 PM (aXxgO)

12 9 They think they should be America's Praetorian Guard.
Posted by: rd at July 25, 2022 06:08 PM (Z32m1)

The Praetorians managed to fuck up a lot of shit before they got their checks cancelled by Septimius Severus. Pertinax is one example. Selling the Imperial throne to the highest bidder is of course the highlight.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 25, 2022 06:09 PM (diceA)

13 3 Amazing how with 35,000 employees the FBI can't seem to find anyone else to work on cases that involve democrats committing crimes
Posted by: Ghost Pournel

Um, no. The FIBs have already investigated the Dem crimes, just like J Edgar Hoover taught them. They use the dirt for blackmail and extorsion.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at July 25, 2022 06:10 PM (DsA2n)

14 Thank God it wasn't a Nood Hunter...

Aw crap.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at July 25, 2022 06:10 PM (QYPq3)

15 Auten needs to be Renditioned with extreme prejudice: 24/7 Oh No Yoko music marathon.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 25, 2022 06:10 PM (yn/SF)

16 zzzzzzZZZZZZZZZ

Posted by: The NY Times at July 25, 2022 06:11 PM (guGkK)

17 Like Seven Days in May, the democrat cabal of operatives is very small. Operationally speaking, it would be easy to decapitate.

Posted by: Archer at July 25, 2022 06:11 PM (gmo/4)

18 Who was last high profile democrat to go to jail other than Epstein

Who did not kill himself

Posted by: Yo! Ultra MAGA at July 25, 2022 06:11 PM (69zJu)

19 Extortion. Extorsion.

Huh, I did not think extorsion was a real word on first glace.

Extorsion
The outward rotation of a limb or organ.
The outward divergent rotation of the upper poles of the vertical meridian of the cornea of each eye. disclination positive declination

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 25, 2022 06:12 PM (diceA)

20 "Actually, he's a "defense theorist" who calls for the US to get rid of all of its nuclear weapons unilaterally as a matter of Christian ethics."

which is like Pete Buddyplug the other day saying we need to get rid of fossil fuels so that China and India will follow our lead.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at July 25, 2022 06:12 PM (Ynyl9)

21 The Pertinax thing was the final straw. He paid good money for the purple, he should have been allowed to keep it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 25, 2022 06:13 PM (guGkK)

22 In entertainment news

Marvel is going further inclusive and woke. The X-Men are rumored to be renamed simply to The Mutants.

Can we get more generic?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 25, 2022 06:13 PM (yn/SF)

23 Traitors need to be up against the wall

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 25, 2022 06:13 PM (kf6Ak)

24 this is why I completely dismiss the FBI investigation of the Huawei cell towers near military bases.

Is there something there? Most likely.

Am I willing to trust the FBI to do their job? Not in the slightest.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at July 25, 2022 06:13 PM (5pTK/)

25 zzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZ

Posted by: CBS at July 25, 2022 06:13 PM (guGkK)

26 The low intellectual and character levels of so much of the Beltway, especially the "elite" agencies, continue to astound.

And it didn't just start recently. But we're talking big, big orders of magnitude *downwards*.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 25, 2022 06:13 PM (OTzUX)

27 Top. Men.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 25, 2022 06:13 PM (Xrfse)

28 re 18: Webb Hubble? Rostenkowski? Blago?

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at July 25, 2022 06:14 PM (Ynyl9)

29 21 The Pertinax thing was the final straw. He paid good money for the purple, he should have been allowed to keep it.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 25, 2022 06:13 PM (guGkK)

Pertinax did not pay, it was... dammit cannot remember the name of the guy who bought it from the praetorians AFTER they murdered Pertinax. Marcus... something. Dammit have to look it up.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 25, 2022 06:14 PM (diceA)

30 Assume any 3 letter agency is your enemy. I practice my Hank Kimball impersonation just in case they wish to make inquiries of me .

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at July 25, 2022 06:14 PM (BrN2r)

31 Love that new-thread smell.

Helps mask the monkeypox stench.

Posted by: Hunter at July 25, 2022 06:14 PM (WmGrA)

32 Mayor Pete is LESS likable than Kamala

Posted by: Yo! Ultra MAGA at July 25, 2022 06:14 PM (69zJu)

33 entertainment news

Marvel is going further inclusive and woke. The X-Men are rumored to be renamed simply to The Mutants.

Can we get more generic?
Posted by: Anna Puma

Is that going to be the series they are bringing back the classic Chris Claremont to do? If so that's a bummer.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 25, 2022 06:14 PM (MGB5H)

34 Marcus Didius Severus Julianus was the guy who bought it, then got executed unceremoniously by Septimius Severus' troops.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 25, 2022 06:15 PM (diceA)

35 Okay, we had a good run.

Close up shop and send everyone home.

Posted by: Zombie J. Edgar at July 25, 2022 06:16 PM (WmGrA)

36 I said it in the Summer of 2016, and everything since has convinced me I was right. Every FBI person in J. Edgar Hoover should have been reassigned to Embassies in shithole countries like Sub Saharan Africa, the Stans and Micronesia.

The ones you cannot allow out of the country should have been made Special Agent in Charge for individual Indian Reservations across the midwest and Alaska. "You keep the pay grade, now investigate all the missing Native American women and children. I expect progress if you don't want to be demoted!"

I would have set up a new federal HQ at Point Barrow Alaska and filled it up with DC denizens.

Posted by: rd at July 25, 2022 06:16 PM (Z32m1)

37 Every time they have political dirtywork to be done, they turn to the same two dozen trusted partisan ringers they know will deliver the results they've all agreed to in advance and claim it's all "objective analysis."

Build a secret police, and they'll do secret police things. Remember that, the next time a sincere, rah rah Republican starts droning on about all the great ham and eggers that serve the secret police all the same.

Posted by: Sauce for the Goose at July 25, 2022 06:16 PM (4Spql)

38 Pertinax did not pay, it was... dammit cannot remember the name of the guy who bought it from the praetorians AFTER they murdered Pertinax.

Didianus Julianus I think.

"Diddy" to his pals

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 25, 2022 06:16 PM (guGkK)

39 More entertainment news

An Eragon TV show based on the Inheritance Cycle novels is in development at Groomer+ with author Christopher Paolini attached to co-write.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 25, 2022 06:16 PM (MGB5H)

40 Wait, you mean it's all rigged and the fix was in?

Posted by: Farmer Bob at July 25, 2022 06:17 PM (JicSX)

41 It's fraud from top to bottom in DC.

Individual states' rights is the only answer. Let DC stew in it's own pudding.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at July 25, 2022 06:17 PM (Qhnrt)

42 Headline - Merrick Garland to investigate "Phony Whistleblowers" who leak sensitive information.

In other news, Brian Auten named chair of Georgetown Ethics dept. Will also be a contributor to CNN 'Reliable Sources with Brian Stelter'

Posted by: Hotel Lobby Ficus at July 25, 2022 06:17 PM (fs1hN)

43 Wait, you mean it's all rigged and the fix was in?
Posted by: Farmer Bob at July 25, 2022 06:17 PM (JicSX)

That's Disinformation Buddy. You take that back!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 25, 2022 06:18 PM (guGkK)

44 Actually, he appears to just be an advisor on "ethics" in national security, who calls for the US to get rid of all of its nuclear weapons unilaterally as a matter of Christian ethics.

Ah. An idiot.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 25, 2022 06:18 PM (ZSK0i)

45 I would have set up a new federal HQ at Point Barrow Alaska and filled it up with DC denizens.
Posted by: rd at July 25, 2022 06:16 PM (Z32m1)
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You're nicer than I am. My suggestion was relocating all of them to North Dakota with building materials in late September.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at July 25, 2022 06:18 PM (5pTK/)

46 Off, abused sock.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 25, 2022 06:18 PM (fs1hN)

47 When the VA killed 300,000 vets, the ATF trafficked guns to Mexican drug lords that were used to kill a border agent and the IRS targeted Republican groups and no one went to jail or even lost their job (early, cushy retirement doesn't count), swamp creatures realized that they could get away with pretty much anything and not get in serious trouble.

Posted by: 29Victor at July 25, 2022 06:18 PM (BJKQV)

48 * Actually, he appears to just be an advisor on "ethics" in national security, who calls for the US to get rid of all of its nuclear weapons unilaterally as a matter of Christian ethics.

So of course that's the kind of leftwing Christian the Deep State would reach out to recruit as a ringer for an "analyst" in their anti-Republican/pro-Hillary, pro-Biden political dirty work.

And what's a guy whose expertise, such as it is, is in Christian ethics doing "analyzing" stuff for authenticity, which has nothing at all to do with ethics, Christian or otherwise?

Except to the extent that perhaps he felt that his leftwing conception of Jesus wanted Hillary and Joe Biden to defeat The Devil Trump?

Posted by: Ace at 06:00 PM

He's reliably crooked?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 25, 2022 06:19 PM (b2nrj)

49 Didianus Julianus I think.

"Diddy" to his pals
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 25, 2022 06:16 PM (guGkK)

M Diddy. Lol.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 25, 2022 06:19 PM (diceA)

50 The Agean Stables were cleaner than FBI-DOJ-IC.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2022 06:19 PM (4I/2K)

51 You're nicer than I am. My suggestion was relocating all of them to North Dakota with building materials in late September.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at July 25, 2022 06:18 PM (5pTK/)

Ah, the Stalin Cannibal Island play.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 25, 2022 06:20 PM (diceA)

52 Calling Sean Hannity, come in Sean Hannity

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 25, 2022 06:20 PM (M+Lyo)

53 rhomboid: "And it didn't just start recently. But we're talking big, big orders of magnitude *downwards*."

I fear - or expect, more credibly - that this level of performance existed at conception. Perhaps one or two agencies survived purposefully for one anniversary, but that's probably the limit of my grace now. Corruption is part of the design.

Which is proof yet again of why we need so much of DC not to have any power.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at July 25, 2022 06:20 PM (aXxgO)

54 Fairly or not, the perception among the public and our enemies is that the U.S. military has become a political entity with an agenda that transcends defending the U.S. and its interests. _VDH

Posted by: Braenyard at July 25, 2022 06:20 PM (fgFKs)

55 Thibault was just trying to match Trump's mean tweets with some of his own. The BadOrangeMan made him do it.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at July 25, 2022 06:20 PM (TNyrE)

56 Marvel is going further inclusive and woke. The X-Men are rumored to be renamed simply to The Mutants.

Can we get more generic?
Posted by: Anna Puma

Why not rename them the Ex-Men? Make them all trannies. Totally woke.

Posted by: 29Victor at July 25, 2022 06:21 PM (BJKQV)

57 Fairly or not, the perception among the public and our enemies is that the U.S. military has become a political entity with an agenda that transcends defending the U.S. and its interests. _VDH

Posted by: Braenyard at July 25, 2022 06:20 PM (fgFKs)
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When did VDH become cruel?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at July 25, 2022 06:21 PM (5pTK/)

58 Six ways from Sunday, pal.

Posted by: 496 at July 25, 2022 06:21 PM (U1eOr)

59 Okay, we had a good run.

Close up shop and send everyone home.
Posted by: Zombie J. Edgar

Then nuke from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: Prime Sister at July 25, 2022 06:21 PM (tQL7r)

60 And there would be no consequences for lying, manipulation and stealing power.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at July 25, 2022 06:22 PM (V6f9+)

61 I can't wait until the GOPe takes over congress next year and hold these people accountable. And by holding them accountable I mean, acting tough in Senate and Congressional hearing.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 25, 2022 06:22 PM (qH6FZ)

62
FBI? What is that? Never heard of it!

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at July 25, 2022 06:23 PM (rXie1)

63 I fear - or expect, more credibly - that this level of performance existed at conception. Perhaps one or two agencies survived purposefully for one anniversary, but that's probably the limit of my grace now. Corruption is part of the design.

Such is bureaucracy. Meritocracy doesn't survive for long in a bureaucracy. Pure and simple.

Posted by: Sauce for the Goose at July 25, 2022 06:23 PM (4Spql)

64 There was a pretty good quote about the FBI over at Insty. Someone said, paraphrasing, "the FBI has managed to alienate the very people who would have been willing to give them the benefit of a doubt."

I count myself among those who have been alienated.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at July 25, 2022 06:23 PM (5pTK/)

65 Okay, we had a good run.

Close up shop and send everyone home.
Posted by: Zombie J. Edgar

Nice garter belt, hose, and heels ensemble, sir!

Posted by: Zombie Clyde Tolson at July 25, 2022 06:24 PM (4I/2K)

66 zzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz....

Posted by: Jeff Sessions at July 25, 2022 06:24 PM (DTX3h)

67 Didianus Julianus I think.

"Diddy" to his pals
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)

Yeah, the P got in the way between him and his fans.

Posted by: Prime Sister at July 25, 2022 06:24 PM (tQL7r)

68 lowandslow: "I can't wait until the GOPe takes over congress next year and hold these people accountable. And by holding them accountable I mean, acting tough in Senate and Congressional hearing."

Yep.

The upside of a Red Wave is the DNC is out.
The downside of a Red Wave is the GOP is in.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at July 25, 2022 06:24 PM (aXxgO)

69 When I say "nothing will happen" I mean nothing will happen.

Posted by: fd at July 25, 2022 06:25 PM (sn5EN)

70 Why not rename them the Ex-Men? Make them all trannies. Totally woke.
Posted by: 29Victor at July 25, 2022 06:21 PM (BJKQV

That will be the sequel.

Posted by: t_bodie - Lurker. Unless you are reading this. at July 25, 2022 06:25 PM (ttzpt)

71 You also have to wonder how anybody could believe that it was not authentic. Those are that sickos nude pics of himself. Not to mention outside confirmed emails with other parties. Corruption top to bottom.

But such are the times we live in, watcha gunna do?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 25, 2022 06:26 PM (8GBH4)

72 The upside of a Red Wave is the DNC is out.
The downside of a Red Wave is the GOP is in.

They'll only have the House, the Supreme Court, and maybe the Senate. What do you expect ?

*spit*

Posted by: Sauce for the Goose at July 25, 2022 06:26 PM (4Spql)

73 Playing with autocucumber on the phone again.

Posted by: You really don't want to know at July 25, 2022 06:26 PM (5Qjf9)

74 Trump's 50,000 Fed workers dismissed is low by a factor of ten. And dismissed is too kind, of course knowing they will get all their pay and benefits regardless.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at July 25, 2022 06:26 PM (oWBc3)

75 63 "I fear - or expect, more credibly - that this level of performance existed at conception. Perhaps one or two agencies survived purposefully for one anniversary, but that's probably the limit of my grace now. Corruption is part of the design."

Such is bureaucracy. Meritocracy doesn't survive for long in a bureaucracy. Pure and simple.
Posted by: Sauce for the Goose at July 25, 2022 06:23 PM (4Spql)

There is that but the recruitment pool is also a lot dumber. There was a time when elites knew how to speak Latin and were more broadly educated. The decline in our education system is so rapid now you can basically see it in real time, but it's even more shocking when viewed against people of 100 years ago.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 25, 2022 06:26 PM (b2nrj)

76 Chinese spy is my guess

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 25, 2022 06:26 PM (CsaR+)

77 Nice garter belt, hose, and heels ensemble, sir!
Posted by: Zombie Clyde Tolson

ITS FUNNY BECAUSE HOOVER LIKED TO DRESS UP LIKE A WOMAN. AND TOLSON WAS HIS MAIN SQUEEZE, ALLEGEDLY

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at July 25, 2022 06:27 PM (rXie1)

78 The Hunter Biden lapdance is a myth. It was was a pole dance.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 25, 2022 06:27 PM (atmen)

79 fd: "When I say 'nothing will happen' I mean nothing will happen."

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE HE SAYS WHAT HE MEANS AND MEANS WHAT HE SAYS.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at July 25, 2022 06:27 PM (aXxgO)

80 Where any of these FBI agents the ones Hunter had phone numbers for in his iphone contacts list?

Posted by: wodun at July 25, 2022 06:27 PM (lFga6)

81 Efram Zimbalist Jr. weeps.

Posted by: jewells45 at July 25, 2022 06:28 PM (nxdel)

82 Select locations for Federal Bureaus: - >
Nogales AZ
Nome AK

Posted by: Braenyard at July 25, 2022 06:28 PM (fgFKs)

83 The low intellectual and character levels of so much of the Beltway, especially the "elite" agencies, continue to astound.

And it didn't just start recently. But we're talking big, big orders of magnitude *downwards*.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 25, 2022 06:13 PM (OTzUX)

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I think this was the genesis of me noping my way back out of DC and politics in general. I was a wet-behind-the-ears 24 year old kid with a newly-minted degree and the thought that I was going to do big things.

Five years on and I realize that most of the people that work in both Congress and the agencies are all supremely unimpressive people, and are wholly incapable of governing this country and should be treated with suspicion if not utter contempt.

Posted by: ballistic at July 25, 2022 06:28 PM (oXNqT)

84 I would have set up a new federal HQ at Point Barrow Alaska and filled it up with DC denizens.
Posted by: rd at July 25, 2022 06:16 PM (Z32m1)
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You're nicer than I am. My suggestion was relocating all of them to North Dakota with building materials in late September.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at July 25, 2022 06:18 PM (5pTK/)

Did I say anything about housing? Think White Sea Canal Hero Project? /jk FEMA Trailers would be provided.

Stalin was bloodthirsty Tyrant. But he kept the soviet bureaucracy in check. Mostly by regularly decimating and even halving it. Yagoda did his dirty work in the Moscow Show Trials, and was rewarded by being the star of the last trial.

Posted by: rd at July 25, 2022 06:29 PM (Z32m1)

85

HI BEN!!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at July 25, 2022 06:29 PM (rXie1)

86 The decline in our education system is so rapid now you can basically see it in real time, but it's even more shocking when viewed against people of 100 years ago.

Come on. The people born in 1922 fought WWII, then voted for every government expansion from then on. Trusted in Big Gov every step of the way.

Posted by: Sauce for the Goose at July 25, 2022 06:29 PM (4Spql)

87 Yeah. Trump wins in '24. Inaugurated and immediately has all these people arrested for sedition, including D reps and Senators. Fly them to Gitmo. Forget they're there.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 25, 2022 06:29 PM (7bRMQ)

88 The low intellectual and character levels of so much of the Beltway, especially the "elite" agencies, continue to astound.
And it didn't just start recently. But we're talking big, big orders of magnitude *downwards*.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 25, 2022 06:13 PM (OTzUX)

I don't know if even went down that much. I remember back in the 1980's when there were a half dozen major Soviet spies finally brought down after years of being in the FBI, CIA, Navy, etc. They were all caught by neighbors or co-workers reporting them, often multiple times because our intelligence agencies were filled with idiots.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 25, 2022 06:30 PM (qH6FZ)

89 Is that Durham guy still a thing?

Posted by: rhomboid at July 25, 2022 06:30 PM (qLaHE)

90 Nome AK

Posted by: Braenyard at July 25, 2022 06:28 PM (fgFKs)

What is it with you guys and sending that crap up here? Do you think we need it for some reason?

Oh, and good luck getting FEMA trailers to anywhere off the highway system in AK. Not gonna happen.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at July 25, 2022 06:30 PM (okGHj)

91 Oh joy, another story the LIVs watching the nightly news will never hear about. I'm feeling better already.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 25, 2022 06:31 PM (ftFVW)

92 Relocate them all to Frostbite Falls, MN?

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2022 06:32 PM (4I/2K)

93 BEN ROETHLISBERGER: HI BEN!!

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE I'M TALKING TO ME, MYSELF, AND I, AND WE'RE THE SAME PERSON!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at July 25, 2022 06:32 PM (aXxgO)

94 lowandslow: "I can't wait until the GOPe takes over congress next year and hold these people accountable. And by holding them accountable I mean, acting tough in Senate and Congressional hearing."

Yep.

The upside of a Red Wave is the DNC is out.
The downside of a Red Wave is the GOP is in.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel

Hope upon hope that politicians, irregardless of their particular odor, will fix a problem they helped create and perpetuate. I salute your optimism.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at July 25, 2022 06:32 PM (BrN2r)

95 Is that Durham guy still a thing?
Posted by: rhomboid at July 25, 2022 06:30 PM (qLaHE)

I guess if you follow Brian Cates? Any day now...?

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at July 25, 2022 06:33 PM (Zv2q6)

96 86 "The decline in our education system is so rapid now you can basically see it in real time, but it's even more shocking when viewed against people of 100 years ago."

Come on. The people born in 1922 fought WWII, then voted for every government expansion from then on. Trusted in Big Gov every step of the way.
Posted by: Sauce for the Goose at July 25, 2022 06:29 PM (4Spql)

That's political stupidity, and they were in many ways making new mistakes rather than repeating old ones. Nixon supported a lot of bad policy but wasn't a dumb or poorly educated person.

As far as the knowledge base of people coming out of college today, history might as well have started yesterday. And we're seeing a decline in their capabilities as pertains to their specialization as well. It's one of the big negative factors for our society going forward, knowledge transfer has been crippled.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 25, 2022 06:33 PM (b2nrj)

97 Ben might have had a few happy hour priced Iron City Beers

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 25, 2022 06:33 PM (fs1hN)

98 HI BEN!!!!

Posted by: Ben Had at July 25, 2022 06:33 PM (Bq7US)

99 10 And of course nothing will be done about it... They have parading Grandmas to throw in jail...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2022 06:08 PM (bs+z0)

Of course those who REALLY parade are all getting monkeypox, so we don't have to worry about them any more. Don't think Grandma is up on buttfucking.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at July 25, 2022 06:33 PM (okGHj)

100 "Is that Durham guy still a thing?
Posted by: rhomboid"

See #69.

Posted by: fd at July 25, 2022 06:34 PM (sn5EN)

101 surreal was last year. there are no words for this $#it.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - ultra MAGA FTW ! at July 25, 2022 06:34 PM (oZtf9)

102 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE I'M TALKING TO ME, MYSELF, AND I, AND WE'RE THE SAME PERSON!
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER

Maybe time to try out they/them pronouns?

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 25, 2022 06:34 PM (ftFVW)

103 It's one of the big negative factors for our society going forward, knowledge transfer has been crippled.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 25, 2022 06:33 PM (b2nrj)

I have noticed an inability for critical thinking and logical deduction. How in hell.... never mind.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at July 25, 2022 06:34 PM (okGHj)

104 Incest is a government requirement. One way or another.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 25, 2022 06:35 PM (BFigT)

105 The FBI needs to be cleaned out (2-0 VS Republican Presidents)

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2022 06:35 PM (38JOs)

106 The USA is in the odd position of having a government in open rebellion against the people.

Posted by: The guy that moves pianos for a living at July 25, 2022 06:36 PM (JY/Jg)

107 That's political stupidity, and they were in many ways making new mistakes rather than repeating old ones. Nixon supported a lot of bad policy but wasn't a dumb or poorly educated person.

Thats historical stupidity. Stop ignoring their intentions, just because you may approve of their intentions, and look at their actions. Look at their results.

And understand, you just made the Left's case for the current group of losers in charge. They're really smart, they're just making new mistakes when confronted with really really hard problems.

Posted by: Sauce for the Goose at July 25, 2022 06:36 PM (4Spql)

108 105 The FBI needs to be cleaned out (2-0 VS Republican Presidents)
Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2022 06:35 PM (38JOs)

I'm sure a little napalm could solve this problem.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at July 25, 2022 06:36 PM (okGHj)

109 Martini Farmer: "Incest is a government requirement. One way or another."

Wait, what?

Posted by: Hunter Bidenesque at July 25, 2022 06:36 PM (aXxgO)

110 I'm more inclined to move fed departments to out of the way sea mounts, say the far south pacific.

Posted by: Beartooth at July 25, 2022 06:37 PM (u9Awk)

111 109 Martini Farmer: "Incest is a government requirement. One way or another."

Wait, what?
Posted by: Hunter Bidenesque at July 25, 2022 06:36 PM (aXxgO)

NO. The correct response is "EW!"

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at July 25, 2022 06:37 PM (okGHj)

112 Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at July 25, 2022 06:32 PM

BEN, not to be harsh or cruel, but could you hang around here more often? I've noted several times recently that TJM has stated "I don't get it.", which, as you know, is really the BEN ROETHLISBERGER Signal, but you haven't answered.

TJM, and all the Morons who love him, would appreciate it.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 25, 2022 06:38 PM (a3Q+t)

113 I'm gobsmacked at this news. In fact, my gobsmackage is boundless. I'm overwhelmed by this omnipotent, infinite gobsmackage.

Posted by: Christopher Wray at July 25, 2022 06:38 PM (sWM8x)

114 The only evidence for Hoover crossdressing or being a pervert was one doctored blurry picture and his worst enemies spreading rumors. Hoover was a power hungry man more than willing to abuse power to control everything he could but he wasn't some weirdo pervert.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2022 06:39 PM (Ivdso)

115 86 The decline in our education system is so rapid now you can basically see it in real time, but it's even more shocking when viewed against people of 100 years ago.

Come on. The people born in 1922 fought WWII, then voted for every government expansion from then on. Trusted in Big Gov every step of the way.
Posted by: Sauce for the Goose at July 25, 2022 06:29 PM (4Spql)

Wilson packed the snowball and the Greatest Generation pushed it downhill. The rest is history.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at July 25, 2022 06:39 PM (Qhnrt)

116 I have noticed an inability for critical thinking and logical deduction. How in hell.... never mind.

Now do the Depression. Burning crops and slaughtering livestock while people starved. But, they studied Latin, so geniuses.

The only thing that changes in DC is the fashion.

Posted by: Sauce for the Goose at July 25, 2022 06:39 PM (4Spql)

117 I'm more inclined to move fed departments to out of the way sea mounts, say the far south pacific.
Posted by: Beartooth at July 25, 2022 06:37 PM

Put 'em all on the west coast of Guam?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 25, 2022 06:39 PM (a3Q+t)

118 Oh, and good luck getting FEMA trailers to anywhere off the highway system in AK. Not gonna happen.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at July 25, 2022 06:30 PM (okGHj)
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Well, I guess the newly created Zeks will need to get busy if they want shelter for the winter.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at July 25, 2022 06:40 PM (5pTK/)

119 The USA is in the odd position of having a government in open rebellion against the people.
Posted by: The guy that moves pianos for a living
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It's happened before. Lincoln.

BTW, good to see your nic. It's been a while.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2022 06:40 PM (dx9uU)

120 107 "That's political stupidity, and they were in many ways making new mistakes rather than repeating old ones. Nixon supported a lot of bad policy but wasn't a dumb or poorly educated person."

Thats historical stupidity. Stop ignoring their intentions, just because you may approve of their intentions, and look at their actions. Look at their results.

And understand, you just made the Left's case for the current group of losers in charge. They're really smart, they're just making new mistakes when confronted with really really hard problems.
Posted by: Sauce for the Goose at July 25, 2022 06:36 PM (4Spql)

You can get bad results in multiple ways. Bad plan/ideas + smart/educated people will do it. Good plan/ideas + stupid person will do it. Our present elites (by which I mean not only people in government but people coming out of the colleges) have both bad plans and effectively are stupid/unknowledgeable. The US bounced back strongly after FDR because the population was in other ways competent.

There is a real erosion of human capital that isn't easily replaced.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 25, 2022 06:40 PM (b2nrj)

121 I have noticed an inability for critical thinking and logical deduction

People are not only lacking in education in rhetoric, logic, and critical thought, but they are actively educated that these things are bad and racist.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2022 06:40 PM (Ivdso)

122 I'm more inclined to move fed departments to out of the way sea mounts, say the far south pacific.
Posted by: Beartooth at July 25, 2022 06:37 PM

Put 'em all on the west coast of Guam?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 25, 2022 06:39 PM (a3Q+t)

Wake Island?

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2022 06:40 PM (4I/2K)

123 Put 'em all on the west coast of Guam?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 25, 2022 06:39 PM (a3Q+t)
________

It'll tip over!!!!

Hank Johnson (D - Science!)

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 25, 2022 06:41 PM (fs1hN)

124 It's happened before. Lincoln....and FDR.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2022 06:41 PM (dx9uU)

125 I have noticed an inability for critical thinking and logical deduction. How in hell.... never mind.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at July 25, 2022 06:34 PM (okGHj)
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Hey, the younger generation understands 3 minutes of hate, pronouns and struggle sessions extremely well.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at July 25, 2022 06:41 PM (5pTK/)

126 The FBI needs to be cleaned out (2-0 VS Republican Presidents)
Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2022 06:35 PM (38JOs)

I'm sure a little napalm could solve this problem.
Posted by: tcn in AK

I was thinking along the lines of a GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast (MOAB) but I'll work with you.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 25, 2022 06:42 PM (6WCwE)

127 Abe Yagoda loved Snickers!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at July 25, 2022 06:42 PM (yikp0)

128 History shows that corruption is the natural way of things.

The Founding Fathers tried their best to create a system of government that would resist corruption, but like rust or like rats chewing through a concrete wall, corruption never sleeps.

Posted by: davidt at July 25, 2022 06:42 PM (oTZbj)

129 89 Is that Durham guy still a thing?
Posted by: rhomboid at July 25, 2022 06:30 PM (qLaHE)

Durham has indicted Danchenko so who knows if this is related and FWIW. And, there are some whistleblowers out there who need our prayers.

Posted by: 7man at July 25, 2022 06:42 PM (qwO6y)

130 You rent an old box store in the hood. Give them second hand furniture. Make sure the AC and internet don't work. The parking lot has no security. The only surenthing is that attendance and staying there is rigorously tracked.

Posted by: WiNO at July 25, 2022 06:42 PM (+vMc+)

131 The Romans near the fall of the empire were making lots of bad decisions, but knew how to keep the plumbing working. It would be a very long time before plumbing was reinvented.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 25, 2022 06:43 PM (b2nrj)

132 I have noticed an inability for critical thinking and logical deduction

Again, we have a confusion here with intelligence, education, and wisdom.

A fool can be very well educated, there are hosts of people like that out there right now. An idiot can be very well educated as well, and there are some of those in office and in courts. They are credentialed and got grades in prestigious schools, but are too stupid to know what to do with it.

Foolish people believe things which are not so, because they wish things to be different. Stupid people believe things that are not so because they don't know any better. Educated people can believe things that are not so because they aren't smart or wise enough to understand what they've learned and how to apply it.

People were, without question, getting much, MUCH better educations in the past, even if they were fools with it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2022 06:44 PM (Ivdso)

133 The Pertinax thing was the final straw. He paid good money for the purple, he should have been allowed to keep it.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 25, 2022 06:13 PM (guGkK)

Pertinax did not pay, it was... dammit cannot remember the name of the guy who bought it from the praetorians AFTER they murdered Pertinax. Marcus... something. Dammit have to look it up.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at July 25, 2022 06:14 PM (diceA)

Didus Julianus won the auction. Then had very little time before Septimus Severus showed up and fixed his wagon and the Praetorians.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2022 06:44 PM (eoQWY)

134 Durham is doing his job of protecting the IC DOJ complex.

Posted by: WiNO at July 25, 2022 06:44 PM (+vMc+)

135 Trump had plenty of warning that he was fucking up in picking Wray.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 25, 2022 06:44 PM (es0Dj)

136 People are not only lacking in education in rhetoric, logic, and critical thought, but they are actively educated that these things are bad and racist.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

You make that sound like it's a bad thing. I'm noting this...

Posted by: CRT Scold at July 25, 2022 06:44 PM (ftFVW)

137 I'm more inclined to move fed departments to out of the way sea mounts, say the far south pacific.
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The FBI has built its new bomb training unit here, and there's talk that they'll eventually grow their presence here to 5000 people.

This used to be a pretty nice town.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 25, 2022 06:44 PM (sWM8x)

138 I have noticed an inability for critical thinking and logical deduction. How in hell.... never mind.
Now do the Depression. Burning crops and slaughtering livestock while people starved. But, they studied Latin, so geniuses.
The only thing that changes in DC is the fashion.
Posted by: Sauce for the Goose at July 25, 2022 06:39 PM (4Spql)

Starving People? What is old is NEW AGAIN. Just ask the Sri Lankans, Dutch, and Canadians. In the NAME OF CLIMATE CHANGE we will eliminate 30% of the Nitrogen Oxides from farming. That means eliminating 30% of the FERTILIZER. And 30% or more of the crop yields.

Posted by: rd at July 25, 2022 06:44 PM (Z32m1)

139 Martini Farmer: "Incest is a government requirement. One way or another."

I would add, 'lubricated with hypocrisy and greed.'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2022 06:44 PM (dx9uU)

140 There is a real erosion of human capital that isn't easily replaced.

This erosion you seem to bemoan started at least in the Wilson era, and never stopped. Except for that awful 1860s era. Except for that unfortunate incident where Pennsylvania farmers found out that they damn well would pay tax on barter whiskey.

There isn't an era in US History where the capitol wasn't compelling the majority of the populace to act against its will. Studying Latin didn't do jack shit regarding that trend.

I wish they were more stupid and lazy. They'd be less effective.

Posted by: Sauce for the Goose at July 25, 2022 06:45 PM (4Spql)

141 Oh, and good luck getting FEMA trailers to anywhere off the highway system in AK. Not gonna happen.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at July 25, 2022 06:30 PM (okGHj)
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Helicopters

Posted by: Braenyard at July 25, 2022 06:46 PM (fgFKs)

142 A Chinook Helicopter can easily position the average FEMA trailer, damn near anywhere.

Remember, the average FEMA trailer was nothing more than the cheap shell of a 36 ft. Class C RV with one slide out, and they're far lighter than any commercially available "recreation" RV of the same class and size.

The "single wide" Mobile Home FEMA trailers are a different matter, though. But, who cares? Govt. Drone will live in whatever "shelter" we deign provide, or else freeze in the N.Dakota/Alaska/Wyoming (etc) winters.

Spin 'em up, lads!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 25, 2022 06:46 PM (tkOps)

143 People were, without question, getting much, MUCH better educations in the past, even if they were fools with it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 25, 2022 06:44 PM (Ivdso)

And knowledge transfer is important to keeping things running. Societies have made colossal screw ups without enduring technological regression, but forget how to do something and it can be lost indefinitely.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 25, 2022 06:46 PM (b2nrj)

144 I love my representative (FL-1) Matt Gaetz. Whoppi Goldberg not so much, I'm guessing.

Posted by: bed head at July 25, 2022 06:46 PM (Y1sOo)

145 Put 'em all on the west coast of Guam?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 25, 2022 06:39 PM (a3Q+t)

Wake Island?
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2022 06:40 PM (4I/2K)

The Aleutian Islands.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at July 25, 2022 06:46 PM (Qhnrt)

146 "The USA is in the odd position of having a government in open rebellion against the people."

it seems odd, but it seems to be a common situation across most of the globe. They are not quite fully open about it yet, but certainly more exposed than over the last 100 years or so.

Even in tyrannical regimes they are not fully "open", it is always under pretense of some greater good.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 25, 2022 06:47 PM (Cus5s)

147 Christopher R Taylor: "A fool can be very well educated, there are hosts of people like that out there right now..."

My ears are burning. If you don't mind, I'd like to interrupt this thread to say something stupid:

Andy McCarthy

Posted by: Andy McCarthy at July 25, 2022 06:47 PM (aXxgO)

148 Spurtimax would be a good name for a new ED drug.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 25, 2022 06:47 PM (sWM8x)

149 Marianas Trench

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - ultra MAGA FTW ! at July 25, 2022 06:47 PM (oZtf9)

150 Fertilizer Ban explained (with some Canadian humor and profanity).

https://tinyurl.com/3uubm3wk

Posted by: rd at July 25, 2022 06:48 PM (Z32m1)

151 more inclined to move fed departments to out of the way sea mounts, say the far south pacific.
Posted by: Beartooth at July 25, 2022 06:37 PM

Put 'em all on the west coast of Guam?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 25, 2022 06:39 PM (a3Q+t)

Wake Island?
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2022 06:40 PM

I was thinking between New Zealand and Chile

Posted by: Beartooth at July 25, 2022 06:48 PM (u9Awk)

152 All this talk of relocating the FBI to islands and not one of you has mentioned Bikini atoll? Who are you people?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at July 25, 2022 06:48 PM (5pTK/)

153 Does *anyone* at the FBI do an honest day's work?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 25, 2022 06:49 PM (K5n5d)

154 Does *anyone* at the FBI do an honest day's work?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

Janitors?

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 25, 2022 06:50 PM (ftFVW)

155 Spurtimax would be a good name for a new ED drug.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis

The Paolo doesn't, how you say, have a need for Spurtimax.

Posted by: The Paolo at July 25, 2022 06:50 PM (6WCwE)

156 145 Put 'em all on the west coast of Guam?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 25, 2022 06:39 PM (a3Q+t)

Wake Island?
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2022 06:40 PM (4I/2K)
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We don't want to put them where they can corrupt innocent people.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 25, 2022 06:50 PM (fgFKs)

157 Don't worry. Durham is on the case!

Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2022 06:51 PM (6TxNR)

158 "Perfessor" Squirrel: "Does *anyone* at the FBI do an honest day's work?"

There was this janitor one time. He was pretty good.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at July 25, 2022 06:51 PM (aXxgO)

159 Ms. Brown is #20 in Bad Blue tonight.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at July 25, 2022 06:51 PM (oWBc3)

160 Well tear my arm off.

Posted by: Inspector Krogh at July 25, 2022 06:51 PM (v0R5T)

161 This erosion you seem to bemoan started at least in the Wilson era, and never stopped. Except for that awful 1860s era. Except for that unfortunate incident where Pennsylvania farmers found out that they damn well would pay tax on barter whiskey.

There isn't an era in US History where the capitol wasn't compelling the majority of the populace to act against its will. Studying Latin didn't do jack shit regarding that trend.

I wish they were more stupid and lazy. They'd be less effective.
Posted by: Sauce for the Goose at July 25, 2022 06:45 PM (4Spql)

Is your point that because of an undesirable totalitarian impulse, it doesn't matter if a society can build bridges(the physical infrastructure, not some metaphor)?

I would object that this loss of knowledge and competence means that even with a replacement of government, we're in for a world of hurt.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 25, 2022 06:51 PM (b2nrj)

162 Woke Island

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 25, 2022 06:51 PM (63Dwl)

163 Christopher R Taylor: "A fool can be very well educated, there are hosts of people like that out there right now..."

My ears are burning. If you don't mind, I'd like to interrupt this thread to say something stupid:

Andy McCarthy
Posted by: Andy McCarthy at July 25, 2022 06:47 PM (aXxgO)

And I raise you,
Kevin McCarthy

Posted by: rd at July 25, 2022 06:51 PM (Z32m1)

164 We don't want to put them where they can corrupt innocent people.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 25, 2022 06:50 PM (fgFKs)
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Leave 'em in DC and erect a wall around the entire district, 100 foot high. Nothing goes in. Nothing comes out.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 25, 2022 06:52 PM (K5n5d)

165 bomb training unit ?
gonna teach antifa how to up their game ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - ultra MAGA FTW ! at July 25, 2022 06:52 PM (oZtf9)

166 My AUSA Tio has no clue what is going on. Too busy with drug cases and Viejos stealing picnic benches from Federal Parks.

Posted by: Oso at July 25, 2022 06:52 PM (+m6pC)

167 She Hobbit: "Janitors?"

Dammit. Beat me by thatmuch.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at July 25, 2022 06:52 PM (aXxgO)

168 So have these two caught monkey pox yet?
You know who I am rooting for and it isn't those two.

Posted by: torabora at July 25, 2022 06:52 PM (Y274z)

169 Maybe it's time the Republicans weaponized the government in their favor.

Probably goes against their sensibilities though.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 25, 2022 06:52 PM (PY/t0)

170 I would object that this loss of knowledge and competence means that even with a replacement of government, we're in for a world of hurt.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 25, 2022 06:51 PM (b2nrj)
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I suggest we've reached the point where the malevolent intentions of Washington outweigh the loss of institutional knowledge.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at July 25, 2022 06:53 PM (5pTK/)

171 She Hobbit: "Janitors?"

Dammit. Beat me by thatmuch.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at July 25, 2022 06:52 PM (aXxgO)
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I wouldn't put too much faith in them. They can be horrible gossips and the walls have eyes/ears...They can also access material that has not been properly shredded.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 25, 2022 06:54 PM (K5n5d)

172 https://tinyurl.com/bddxwhw2
20 Tweets from Bad Blue

#20 from Alex the Chick

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2022 06:54 PM (38JOs)

173 ---
The FBI has built its new bomb training unit here, and there's talk that they'll eventually grow their presence here to 5000 people.

This used to be a pretty nice town.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis

those ATF cocksuckers are here with them. drove by their place on post today. damned cockroach vermin, they are.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (MrZQl) - at July 25, 2022 06:54 PM (MrZQl)

174 169 Maybe it's time the Republicans weaponized the government in their favor.

Probably goes against their sensibilities though.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 25, 2022 06:52 PM (PY/t0)

The trick is to get some loyalists together, establish some new agency with authority to go persecute people, and then starting getting rid of enemies with some plausible pretense that avoids alarming the full number of your intended targets.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 25, 2022 06:54 PM (b2nrj)

175 Put 'em all on the west coast of Guam?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 25, 2022 06:39 PM (a3Q+t)
Wake Island?
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 25, 2022 06:40 PM (4I/2K)
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We don't want to put them where they can corrupt innocent people.
Posted by: Braenyard at July 25, 2022 06:50 PM (fgFKs)
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The radioactive contamination of the Bikini Islands testing grounds has decayed away (mostly).

Posted by: rd at July 25, 2022 06:55 PM (Z32m1)

176 "158 "Perfessor" Squirrel: "Does *anyone* at the FBI do an honest day's work?"

There was this janitor one time. He was pretty good.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at July 25, 2022 06:51 PM (aXxgO) "

until all the other janitors conspired to get him fired because he was making them look bad.
(not joking; seen this happen)

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - ultra MAGA FTW ! at July 25, 2022 06:55 PM (oZtf9)

177 170 I would object that this loss of knowledge and competence means that even with a replacement of government, we're in for a world of hurt.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 25, 2022 06:51 PM (b2nrj)
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I suggest we've reached the point where the malevolent intentions of Washington outweigh the loss of institutional knowledge.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at July 25, 2022 06:53 PM (5pTK/)

I've been pretty open that I believe the colleges need to be destroyed.

I'm an optimist about our ability to defeat the Left otherwise. I think we need to go about it as quickly as possible because we're eating our seed corn while we wait, metaphorically speaking.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 25, 2022 06:55 PM (b2nrj)

178 until all the other janitors conspired to get him fired because he was making them look bad.
(not joking; seen this happen)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - ultra MAGA FTW ! at July 25, 2022 06:55 PM (oZtf9)

Happened to the guy from Hot Fuzz too.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 25, 2022 06:56 PM (PY/t0)

179 169 Maybe it's time the Republicans weaponized the government in their favor.

Probably goes against their sensibilities though.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 25, 2022 06:52 PM (PY/t0)

That's not who we are!

Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2022 06:56 PM (6TxNR)

180 What is to be done?

Abolish The FBI Already.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 25, 2022 06:56 PM (R/m4+)

181 Everything has been downhill once we let them hide Area 51.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 25, 2022 06:56 PM (Bq7US)

182 I don't know, the express will of the people in their policy preferences and election of representatives has never been a guarantee of government action but I think what we have seen since 2016 is different in kind from previous crises. When Trump got elected the entire federal government and the establishment of both parties started screaming NO and are still on a quest to punish the population. The closest analogy I can think of is the patricians vs the Gracchii but even the Roman Senate had the common sense to try and buy off the public with a few populist reforms. Our current shit weasels' attitude is "fuck you and you are going to like it".

Posted by: The guy that moves pianos for a living at July 25, 2022 06:56 PM (JY/Jg)

183 OT: Paul Sorvino died today. He was 83. Solid actor.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 25, 2022 06:56 PM (sAmhv)

184 Off topic for this post, but the 'Uke plane carrying weapons that went down in Greece' was from a company 'based' in Ukraine; there is no evidence it was an actual Ukrainian Government plane. The ordnance was being shipped from Serbia to Bangladesh, it was a simple, legal arms shipment using a Ukrainian-based carrier. The plane was as 'Ukrainian' as your cruise ship is 'Liberian'.
Also, Serbia will sell guns to literally anybody they possibly can. It was just a normal transaction, the plane went down. Nothing special, really.

Posted by: LenNeal at July 25, 2022 06:57 PM (U11/V)

185 >>The only evidence for Hoover crossdressing or being a pervert was one doctored blurry picture and his worst enemies spreading rumors. Hoover was a power hungry man more than willing to abuse power to control everything he could but he wasn't some weirdo pervert.

FDR was a weirdo Pervert.

Kennedy was a pervert.

1/2 the peopleinvolved in killing Kennedy would be at high risk for getting Monkeypox, today.

I am gonna er on the side of caution and guess Hoover wasn't any less a werdo perv than the others.

Posted by: garrett at July 25, 2022 06:57 PM (N5/bh)

186 Christopher R Taylor: "A fool can be very well educated, there are hosts of people like that out there right now..."
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This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Paul Krugman at July 25, 2022 06:57 PM (RCix1)

187 If this keeps up, rhinos will start to suspect the fix is in within decades!

Posted by: Jimco Industries at July 25, 2022 06:57 PM (voVcd)

188 183 OT: Paul Sorvino died today. He was 83. Solid actor.
Posted by: Puddleglum at July 25, 2022 06:56 PM (sAmhv

Apparently pretty conservative too. His last tweet was a pic of him with a shotgun telling the libs to come get it.

RIP Paulie.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 25, 2022 06:58 PM (PY/t0)

189 "A fool can be very well educated, there are hosts of people like that out there right now..."

Overeducated shitheads.

Posted by: fd at July 25, 2022 06:58 PM (sn5EN)

190 169 Maybe it's time the Republicans weaponized the government in their favor.

Probably goes against their sensibilities though.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 25, 2022 06:52 PM (PY/t0)

That's not who we are!
Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2022 06:56 PM (6TxNR)

SEND MONEY

Posted by: GOPe at July 25, 2022 06:58 PM (v0R5T)

191 "The Aleutian Islands."

Adak is a perfect location!

Posted by: Bosk at July 25, 2022 06:58 PM (v4L7Y)

192 Has this guy been frog-marched to prison yet, or is he still Auten about?

Posted by: 496 at July 25, 2022 06:59 PM (U1eOr)

193 I wish they all could be West Coat Guam girls.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at July 25, 2022 06:59 PM (yikp0)

194 Oh, and this "whistleblower" report?

It's BS - we already knew this.

They are just rubbing our noses in it.

Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2022 06:59 PM (6TxNR)

195 Long ass movie review length posts today.
Just observing.
Good stuff.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 25, 2022 06:59 PM (ufFY8)

196 Don't know if anyone mentioned yet. But Paul sorvino es mort.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 25, 2022 07:00 PM (MGB5H)

197 I've been pretty open that I believe the colleges need to be destroyed.
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The NEA needs to be strangled.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2022 07:00 PM (K25Wn)

198 oh nood

Posted by: blaster at July 25, 2022 07:01 PM (6TxNR)

199 When the USSR fell apart Ukraine had a large fleet of cargo aircraft inherited from the old days. Their Il-76s dominated the charter business, we used them a lot to move stuff around the new republics. Been a while, but unsurprising if they still do lots of air cargo business.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 25, 2022 07:01 PM (qLaHE)

200 The only evidence for Hoover crossdressing or being a pervert was one doctored blurry picture and his worst enemies spreading rumors. Hoover was a power hungry man more than willing to abuse power to control everything he could but he wasn't some weirdo pervert.
FDR was a weirdo Pervert.
Kennedy was a pervert.
1/2 the peopleinvolved in killing Kennedy would be at high risk for getting Monkeypox, today.

I am gonna er on the side of caution and guess Hoover wasn't any less a werdo perv than the others.
Posted by: garrett at July 25, 2022 06:57 PM (N5/bh)

Unconfirmed Rumor, likely vile slander. Search "Lindsay Graham Ladybugs"

Posted by: rd at July 25, 2022 07:02 PM (Z32m1)

201 Is your point that because of an undesirable totalitarian impulse, it doesn't matter if a society can build bridges(the physical infrastructure, not some metaphor)?

My point is that we are not where we are today because "of a lack of education". Because I just showed you how entire generations that you consider "better educated " - from Wilson on - collectively contributed to where we are now. The elites and masses alike.

We are not here because of a failing in education, even though education is failing. Education is not the root cause. I just demonstrated that to you. If better education is the cure, the folks you consider better educated would have opposed it. They did not.

But you like the idea of people speaking Latin. Understood.

Posted by: Sauce for the Goose at July 25, 2022 07:02 PM (4Spql)

202 I like the idea of Bikini. It would be like Gilligan's Island, only without Gilligan, you know, the smart one.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 25, 2022 07:02 PM (K25Wn)

203 "Paul Sorvino died today. He was 83. Solid actor."

He basically played the same person in every role he was in. But that's o.k., RIP.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 25, 2022 07:02 PM (qH6FZ)

204 Chucky Schwab said the normies would be very angry about what they (WEF) are doing ... but they are doing it anyway, with full support of MFM, DoJ, FIB, CIA, (and various mobsters/grifters in government).

Posted by: illiniwek at July 25, 2022 07:02 PM (Cus5s)

205 Don't know if anyone mentioned yet. But Paul sorvino es mort.

I'm sure many people here would be willing to step up and console his daughter Mira in her time of grief.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 25, 2022 07:03 PM (3hSHB)

206 You're nicer than I am. My suggestion was relocating all of them to North Dakota with building materials in late September.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at July 25, 2022 06:18 PM (5pTK/)

Are we forgetting the Great Gulf-Baja Sealevel Dignity Kanal?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 25, 2022 07:03 PM (1I6o+)

207 When the USSR fell apart Ukraine had a large fleet of cargo aircraft inherited from the old days. Their Il-76s dominated the charter business, we used them a lot to move stuff around the new republics. Been a while, but unsurprising if they still do lots of air cargo business.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 25, 2022 07:01 PM (qLaHE)

Were they made in Ukraine? Or was that just the Antonov's?

Posted by: rd at July 25, 2022 07:04 PM (Z32m1)

208
My point is that we are not where we are today because "of a lack of education". Because I just showed you how entire generations that you consider "better educated " - from Wilson on - collectively contributed to where we are now. The elites and masses alike.

We are not here because of a failing in education, even though education is failing. Education is not the root cause. I just demonstrated that to you. If better education is the cure, the folks you consider better educated would have opposed it. They did not.

But you like the idea of people speaking Latin. Understood.
Posted by: Sauce for the Goose at July 25, 2022 07:02 PM (4Spql)

I wasn't saying they're evil due to lack of education. You can scroll up if you want. Their decline is real and in some circumstances advantageous. It points to a separate problem though.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 25, 2022 07:04 PM (b2nrj)

209 I will show this post to one of my friends who insists "the authorities" looked and could find no evidence of vote count fraud in 2020. I'll point out these are his "authorities." It won't do any good other than to upset him, but cognitive dissonance is useful.

Posted by: Durak Kazyol at July 25, 2022 07:05 PM (Ou0EQ)

210 Still on the payroll, no?
We pay criminals really very well.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, partly cloudy clearing in the afternoon at July 25, 2022 07:05 PM (jTmQV)

211 The Aleutian Islands.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at July 25, 2022 06:46 PM (Qhnrt)

Nope. I said NO, and I meant it. Federal infestation is usually followed by a Superfund Cleanup.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at July 25, 2022 07:06 PM (okGHj)

212 203 Paul Sorvino's bio (I know, Wiki. Lots of friends and relatives around to make sure it's on the level) says he had choice words for Harvey Weinstein, after ol' Harv made moves on Sorvino's daughter. Words like "good thing he's going to prison 'cause I'd kill the motherfucker". RIP Paul.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 25, 2022 07:06 PM (lz5hY)

213 The FBI file guy whose job is to lose anything someone outside wants does a great job.

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2022 07:07 PM (38JOs)

214 Hildabeast's laptop? Gone without a trace

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2022 07:07 PM (38JOs)

215 On a 2x2 matrix of stupid-smart and lazy-energetic, the best combination is smart and lazy. The most dangerous is stupid and energetic.

Posted by: butch at July 25, 2022 07:09 PM (cXo0r)

216 214 Hilz' laptop? How about stuff on a huge mass murder in Las Vegas, gone like a Chicago parking ticket when your cousin is an Alderman.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 25, 2022 07:09 PM (lz5hY)

217 I wasn't saying they're evil due to lack of education. You can scroll up if you want.

There is that but the recruitment pool is also a lot dumber. There was a time when elites knew how to speak Latin and were more broadly educated.

So you agree with me, this is the nature of bureaucracy - and you're just sad that the current pricks aren't as broadly educated as the typical pricks of old ?

Just stop, man. Just. Stop.

Posted by: Sauce for the Goose at July 25, 2022 07:11 PM (4Spql)

218

Ghislaine Maxwell has been moved 1,000 miles to a soft, low-security prison in Florida — one where inmates enjoy movies, a running track and even yoga in the yard.

Federal Bureau of Prisons confirmed that the 60-year-old madam was moved Friday to FCI Tallahassee, a “low-security federal correctional institution” in Florida.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 25, 2022 07:23 PM (63Dwl)

219 Is it possible to not kill yourself doing yoga?

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2022 07:25 PM (38JOs)

220 Is it possible to not kill yourself doing yoga?
Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2022 07:25 PM (38J

Upward Dog

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 25, 2022 07:27 PM (NyLlW)

221 @115 Wilson packed the snowball and the Greatest Generation pushed it downhill. The rest is history

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Wilson packed it, but Coolidge stopped it dead, and reversed most of it.. Without Roosevelt, it wouldn't have gone anywhere.

Posted by: junior at July 25, 2022 07:28 PM (zKmn0)

222 ReligiousNews, 05/12/2017: James Comey: The fall of a Niebuhrian CAMBRIDGE, Mass. (RNS) What is the significance of the recently sacked FBI director's attachment to the leading political theologian of the 20th century?

NYTs, 2/25/01 - U.S. Charges Present a Paradox: the Pious Spy: Robert Hanson

I'm a Christian and a Democrat: FDR

5 U.S. Code S3331- An individual, except the President, elected or appointed to an office of honor or profit in the civil service or uniformed services, shall take the following oath: “I, AB, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”

Posted by: Lola at July 25, 2022 07:29 PM (NIYa7)

223 @207 Were they made in Ukraine? Or was that just the Antonov's?

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Ilyushin was a Russian company post-USSR. They were brought into the new UAC, along with the other Russian aircraft companies, and later merged with another subsidiary. The company no longer exists as Ilyushin.

Posted by: junior at July 25, 2022 07:35 PM (zKmn0)

224 The 51 intelligance "professionals" didn't think it was Russian disinformation, they knew for a fact that it was Hunter's laptop, Hunter's porn videos, Hunter's child porn, Hunter's dealing with Russian hookers, Hunter's drug use, etc, etc, etc. Joe had been a senator for almost fifty years, and he was VP of the USA for eight while all of Hunter's activity was unfolding. Hunter was one of the biggest security threats to our country, and he absolutely was being monitored by our intelligence services since the blackmail risk to Joe Biden was so flagrant. C'mon, man, he's in business with Chinese spies and our intelligence agencies are ignoring him?? They all knew, knew it was 100% true.

Posted by: murphy300 at July 25, 2022 07:38 PM (uH1e3)

225 Ghislaine Maxwell has been moved 1,000 miles to a soft, low-security prison in Florida — one where inmates enjoy movies, a running track and even yoga in the yard.

Federal Bureau of Prisons confirmed that the 60-year-old madam was moved Friday to FCI Tallahassee, a “low-security federal correctional institution” in Florida.
Posted by: B

good

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 25, 2022 08:03 PM (wCKaf)

226 in fairness, hunter was a blackmail risk to biden from the russians an now he ia a blackmail risk to biden from his insiders, resign or hunter goes to the graybar.

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 25, 2022 08:05 PM (wCKaf)

227 Find this piece of shit and beat him. Little faggote.

Posted by: Te as at July 25, 2022 08:11 PM (J0bgd)

228 There's no doubt our government & MSM is totally corrupt!

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Posted by: Sarah at July 25, 2022 09:04 PM (KiNYd)

230 By the time the truth gets its boots on a lie has put on its boots and curb-stomped the truth into a bloody smear on the pavement.

Posted by: Twainisms Updated for Our Time at July 25, 2022 09:11 PM (9RLhb)

231 After reading JM's rundown where he noted that BabeThePigBoi banged no fewer than 38 dudes in a single week, I will henceforth refer to male homosexuals as "members of the 38/7 Club."

Also... Given that male queers are only a percent or so of the total population, how the hell doesn't PigBoi run out of butts to plunder in his region really quickly? I mean, I guess he goes back for seconds and thirds of that hot, hot Monkeypox, but he most be rotating through at least a couple times a year.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 25, 2022 09:17 PM (Zhwz2)

232 This post is currently in red bold faced headline at The Liberty Daily.

Posted by: Democrats: Raping The Children We Cannot Kill Since 1973! at July 25, 2022 10:06 PM (jV+aN)

233 But nothing will be done and nobody will be punished.

Posted by: D3F1ANT at July 26, 2022 12:47 AM (IvYqx)

234 Timothy Robert Thibault: 8311 Collier Ln
Gainesville, VA 20155

Brian James Auten: 10245 Quiet Pond Ter
Burke, VA 22015

Have a nice day..

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