aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com
CBD:
cbd.aoshq at gee mail.com
Buck:
buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com
joe mannix:
mannix2024 at proton.me
MisHum:
petmorons at gee mail.com
J.J. Sefton:
sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com
New York Times: Say, Let's "Fix" the Janus Decision By Empowering the Government to Directly Thieve Money Away from Public Sector Employees' Checks, and Send That Stolen Money Straight to Unions
Yes! Let's have the government turn to straight-up theft to take citizens' money to deliver it to their clients!
Let's get this Revolution started!JFC, NYT. pic.twitter.com/SP6xvRSj1s
— Sacksonville (@JohnEkdahl) June 28, 2018
And on, and on, and on.
But what is happening to the declining sums of money the unions are taking in as their membership shrinks? Aside from sizable political contributions, it appears there is a national epidemic of embezzlement by union leadership grifters. Let's take a closer look at what’s been going on around the country. First stop is New York. Meet Aaron Collington: he's the former president of the Troy, New York Police Union. Collington was accused of stealing $6,200 from the union bank account to pay his rent and was charged with third-degree grand larceny. The money he allegedly stole came from the Troy Police Benevolent Association’s bank account. Collington has pled not guilty. Moving over to Massachusetts, we find Henry Clay Green, Sr. who was the former secretary treasurer of Unite Here Local 26 between 2011 to 2016. Mr. Green has pled guilty to embezzling more than $170,000 from his union...
Perhaps you have loftier aspirations of grift. In that case, Raymond Ventrone of Pennsylvania might be your guy. Ventrone, a business manager for the International Brotherhood of Boilermakers Local 154, was charged with embezzling almost $1.5 million of union funds.... Raiding union assets is not only an East Coast phenomenon. Say hello to Edward Padilla, former secretary-treasurer and business manager for the Bakersfield, California, office of a construction workers union. Padilla, who also served as president of his union, embezzled more than $160,000 according the federal court documents....
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 28, 2018 07:06 PM (I16G8)
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at June 28, 2018 07:06 PM (fYi9j)
Jeez, you have to be pretty damn educated to be stupid enough to believe this.
Posted by: blaster at June 28, 2018 07:07 PM (DH5wZ)
Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 28, 2018 07:07 PM (I16G8)
Why not screw everyone to retain the unions power to donate to democrats.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at June 28, 2018 07:07 PM (+Dllb)
And the legal morass they'd open up? Good luck.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 28, 2018 07:08 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: IC, now with extra super elite at June 28, 2018 07:08 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: Pede at June 28, 2018 07:08 PM (uc45P)
Posted by: Ignoramus at June 28, 2018 07:08 PM (I84K6)
Dear G-d, the abject goniffing thievery is so utterly in your face it's just disgusting.
With associate justice Mark Levin taking Kennedy's seat, this too will get slapped down.
Until Pelosi goes over the fence, through the window, under the wire, down the chimney.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:09 PM (VM6ev)
Posted by: pep at June 28, 2018 07:09 PM (T6t7i)
Didn't the Janus ruling also state that .gov can't collect any dues for the union too? So no funny games with 'fees' or 'taxes' which are really dues?
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at June 28, 2018 07:09 PM (N5dam)
Posted by: Max Power at June 28, 2018 07:09 PM (q177U)
Posted by: kathysaysso at June 28, 2018 07:09 PM (yACxx)
Please Keep This In Mind: Municipalities, which are fiduciary spenders for the taxpayer, are SUPPOSED to be on the OPPOSITE SIDE of the Negotiating Table from the Unions, not in bed with them!
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at June 28, 2018 07:09 PM (0ejlr)
Posted by: Admiral John Roberts at June 28, 2018 07:09 PM (5jVnA)
Posted by: Caliban at June 28, 2018 07:09 PM (QE8X6)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 28, 2018 07:10 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: The Real Elites at June 28, 2018 07:11 PM (v/EYA)
Posted by: The New York Times at June 28, 2018 07:11 PM (0ogQG)
Posted by: Jewells45 at June 28, 2018 07:11 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: Diogenes at June 28, 2018 07:11 PM (0tfLf)
Posted by: Sam Grifter, Jesse James Union 69 Train Local President at June 28, 2018 07:11 PM (r+sAi)
So now instead of kicking back union dues to the Democrats the entire taxpaying public in each state will be shaken down?
Meh, day ending in "Y."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:11 PM (VM6ev)
So if you have a union, government job, the state takes an extra tax vs a non-government job, then deposits that money into the bank account of the union?
Talk about corruption.
Posted by: Pede at June 28, 2018 07:12 PM (uc45P)
Indeed, I have no idea why WE have yet to start a massive class action with the Huge Conflict of Interest going on with Democrat office holders and the union pals they negotiate contracts with.
Unions and Democrats are Screwing Us. Shirley, there's a case to be made here.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at June 28, 2018 07:12 PM (0ejlr)
Posted by: runner at June 28, 2018 07:12 PM (bUjCl)
Someone in the comments of some other thread talked about staying in the teacher's union because it offered protection in case they were sued by a student. Now that sounds like it could be worth something. I don't know what it costs to buy that kind of insurance on your own, but getting it as part of union membership has to be of value.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 28, 2018 07:12 PM (pvjTE)
Posted by: Fritz at June 28, 2018 07:12 PM (J7XgW)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at June 28, 2018 07:12 PM (0ejlr)
Posted by: Soothsayer
There is.
And don't call me Shirley.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 28, 2018 07:12 PM (9rIkM)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:13 PM (VM6ev)
Posted by: runner at June 28, 2018 07:13 PM (bUjCl)
Posted by: Hikaru at June 28, 2018 07:13 PM (9De+S)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 28, 2018 07:13 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 28, 2018 07:13 PM (I16G8)
Posted by: SE Cupp at June 28, 2018 07:13 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: Fritz at June 28, 2018 07:12 PM (J7XgW)
A uterus-booterus.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:13 PM (VM6ev)
Posted by: Diogenes at June 28, 2018 07:13 PM (0tfLf)
Posted by: Hillary at June 28, 2018 07:14 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Under Fire at June 28, 2018 07:14 PM (r9UYA)
Posted by: SE Cupp at June 28, 2018 07:13 PM (r9UYA)
Smash the friggin' Heidelbergs and dump the ink in the East River.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:14 PM (VM6ev)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 28, 2018 07:14 PM (2CQCl)
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2018 07:14 PM (sdi6R)
But all of that stuff immediately becomes settled law.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 28, 2018 07:14 PM (VgKNm)
Posted by: Sheanine at June 28, 2018 07:15 PM (e8VEY)
Perhaps surrounding Hahvahd and then burning it to the ground, shooting anyone trying to escape, would be a good start.
But unfortunately, it would only be a start.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 28, 2018 07:15 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 28, 2018 07:15 PM (89T5c)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 28, 2018 07:12 PM (pvjTE)
Buying your own liability insurance is cheaper than union dues.
Posted by: Emmie at June 28, 2018 07:15 PM (/A+Cl)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at June 28, 2018 07:15 PM (0ejlr)
And there is the key.
Fu*king dumbass, it comes from the people.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 28, 2018 07:15 PM (0tfLf)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 28, 2018 07:15 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 28, 2018 07:16 PM (2CQCl)
But all of that stuff immediately becomes settled law.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 28, 2018 07:14 PM (VgKNm)
Wait until the penumbra emanates in their direction, please G-d.
That said, I still want my justices to follow the Constitution.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:16 PM (VM6ev)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2018 07:16 PM (dsGGq)
The dues / fees MUST be opt-in.
This shell game he suggests is too clever by half. Plus, SCOTUS has ruled that governments cannot do by regulation or tax what they cannot otherwise do legally.
This is wishcasting by the NYT.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, AKA VA GOP Sucks at June 28, 2018 07:16 PM (++G28)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 28, 2018 07:15 PM (IqV8l)
How many billionaires in the South Bronx and Corona?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:17 PM (VM6ev)
Easier solution: How about government quit fucking with the workers? Then there'd be no need for unions.
Posted by: rickb223 Super Elite at June 28, 2018 07:17 PM (SqM8E)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at June 28, 2018 07:17 PM (KP5rU)
The Demoncrat Party is nothing more than Organized Crime.
Posted by: Hikaru at June 28, 2018 07:13 PM (9De+S)
That's for sure. And public employee unions are nothing but a way to transfer taxpayer money to the Democrat Party.
Tax revenue > Public employee pay > Union dues > Contributions to Democrats
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2018 07:17 PM (sdi6R)
who's never done any actual labor in his life.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 28, 2018 07:17 PM (nILVB)
Posted by: girldog at June 28, 2018 07:17 PM (g5YYQ)
Trump will eat them for lunch in his rally stemwinders.
He'll have We The People so full of piss and vinegar the Public Sector Mafia will have no choice but to give up on their schemes.
Ochlocracy is actually pretty cool when you're finally a member of the Ochlos.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 28, 2018 07:18 PM (BRvh1)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 28, 2018 07:15 PM (IqV8l)
************************
She wants to be POTUS.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 28, 2018 07:18 PM (PvFoN)
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 28, 2018 07:19 PM (10vO4)
Posted by: gp at June 28, 2018 07:19 PM (mk9aG)
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 28, 2018 07:19 PM (nILVB)
Naaaaahhhh. Never happen. I'm sure the union goons would only ask for a fair compensation package, and the politicians approving it would be fair stewards of the public purse.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 28, 2018 07:19 PM (wdmm9)
Hell, let's just have one big union, as the Wobblies suggested.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 28, 2018 07:19 PM (fA1SL)
They now get a whole lot more power of their union leadership.
Posted by: Pede at June 28, 2018 07:19 PM (uc45P)
A labor Expert from HARVARD said this! I thought it was the NyTimes being stupid, but it was a fvckin' expert. Top Men!
I can't even. I wouldn't have gotten outta high school with statements like that.
Zen state obliterated.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 28, 2018 07:20 PM (Axa8z)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:20 PM (39g3+)
The Demoncrat Party is nothing more than Organized Crime.
Posted by: Hikaru at June 28, 2018 07:13 PM (9De+S)
That's for sure. And public employee unions are nothing but a way to transfer taxpayer money to the Democrat Party.
Tax revenue > Public employee pay > Union dues > Contributions to Democrats
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2018 07:17 PM (sdi6R)
Even the very, very few agencies that AREN'T funded by taxpayers (and therefore, don't have to answer to the Governor) still have their pay forcefully confiscated.
Posted by: Hikaru at June 28, 2018 07:20 PM (9De+S)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 28, 2018 07:20 PM (89T5c)
One thing that I believe IS an actual issue is the protection of public sector union members such as cops. being in a situation with a mayor such as in Baltimore , where the mayor is corrupt and siccing people on members, and the now lack of atty assistance if cops should find themselves in conflict Because OF political scams such as Lynch/ re NYPD and Freddie Grey as blackmail.
police make a pretty nice salary but not good enough to withstand that onslaught.
so ..
whats the solution to this type of activity and lack of protection?
Posted by: willow at June 28, 2018 07:20 PM (dPd5y)
Posted by: saf at June 28, 2018 07:20 PM (5IHGB)
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 28, 2018 07:19 PM (10vO4)
That's what Brown grads are for.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 28, 2018 07:20 PM (BRvh1)
Posted by: Spherical Morbidly Obese Union Official Sleeping it Off at the Office at June 28, 2018 07:20 PM (0dEDB)
Someone in the comments of some other thread talked about staying in
the teacher's union because it offered protection in case they were sued
by a student. Now that sounds like it could be worth something. I don't
know what it costs to buy that kind of insurance on your own, but
getting it as part of union membership has to be of value.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 28, 2018 07:12 PM (pvjTE)
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It's a good excuse but it's bullsh*t. They stay in because of the job security, the sweet raises during recessions, and the constant raises. It's why they're a voting bloc. It's a very simple agreement, too. They know governors and government of both parties will kiss their ass to pay for their votes every few years, and the teachers will grumble and poormouth to see who gives them the best deal on their vote.
Quick, name another job where you can work the same position for thirty years, add zero additional responsibility to your employment duties, and triple your salary before retiring with full benefits.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 28, 2018 07:20 PM (VgKNm)
Posted by: weew at June 28, 2018 07:21 PM (gk7if)
Posted by: Soona at June 28, 2018 07:21 PM (fNJbX)
That strikes me as a pretty easy court case to win.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:21 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: willow at June 28, 2018 07:21 PM (dPd5y)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2018 07:21 PM (dsGGq)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 28, 2018 07:15 PM (IqV8l)
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She wants to be POTUS.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 28, 2018 07:18 PM (PvFoN)
Somebody said earlier that she used to work as a bartender.
So at age 28 she already has more private sector work experience than Obama.
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2018 07:21 PM (sdi6R)
Sounds like a Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez idea.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 28, 2018 07:15 PM (IqV8l)
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She wants to be POTUS.
Posted by: redridinghood at June 28, 2018 07:18 PM (PvFoN)
She wants to be Mao Tse Tung
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 28, 2018 07:21 PM (UsCnO)
Posted by: Paladin at June 28, 2018 07:22 PM (CC3uP)
And I thought the union's job was to negotiate on behalf of the employees. What kind of advocate are they being on behalf of those they represent when they are negotiating to rich themselves at the expense of those they represent?
It's all topsy turvy, as if everyone forgot what the original purposes of these roles.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at June 28, 2018 07:22 PM (/qEW2)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 28, 2018 07:22 PM (89T5c)
Posted by: Krystal Slider Enthusiast at June 28, 2018 07:22 PM (FOPyv)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 28, 2018 07:23 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 28, 2018 07:23 PM (oVJmc)
One thing that I believe IS an actual issue is the protection of public sector union members such as cops. being in a situation with a mayor such as in Baltimore , where the mayor is corrupt and siccing people on members, and the now lack of atty assistance if cops should find themselves in conflict Because OF political scams such as Lynch/ re NYPD and Freddie Grey as blackmail.
police make a pretty nice salary but not good enough to withstand that onslaught.
so ..
whats the solution to this type of activity and lack of protection?
Posted by: willow
___________
Screw law enforcement unions.
I've seen them fight tooth and nail alongside other state workers if anyone even talks about pension reforms.
I hope it withers and dies away.
Posted by: Pede at June 28, 2018 07:23 PM (uc45P)
She looks like Huma Abedin
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 28, 2018 07:23 PM (10vO4)
=
theh good old days..like when Reagan fired Traffic Controllers; him being a Union man hisself was a nice touch.
Posted by: runner at June 28, 2018 07:23 PM (bUjCl)
Posted by: Paul at June 28, 2018 07:23 PM (H7dia)
Then I read the actual post and omgawd how can a law expert from Harvard be that stupid?! How can anyone be that stupid?!!
Lesson: Don't actually read the Post. Just read the headline.
What is JFC?
Is it like KFC?
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 28, 2018 07:24 PM (Axa8z)
One thing that I believe IS an actual issue is the protection of public sector union members such as cops. being in a situation with a mayor such as in Baltimore , where the mayor is corrupt and siccing people on members, and the now lack of atty assistance if cops should find themselves in conflict Because OF political scams such as Lynch/ re NYPD and Freddie Grey as blackmail.
police make a pretty nice salary but not good enough to withstand that onslaught.
so ..
whats the solution to this type of activity and lack of protection?
Posted by: willow at June 28, 2018 07:20 PM (dPd5y)
Willow. It is called legal insurance. I have it and I do not belong to a union. My company offers it.
Posted by: Soona at June 28, 2018 07:24 PM (fNJbX)
I doubt the union would do anything for them. That's not what they say their job is. Example, a woman talks about the unions non-help for her in her Nursing job:
SEIU did nothing for me. I worked at the state hospital as an LPN (I'm now an RN) and had an RN coworker who did not think LPNs should work in the capacity we did. To shorten a very long story, she gave my personal info to a sex offender patient. For my birthday I got a card with a penis on the front and a heart symbolizing my vagina. The inside was signed by that nurse, my manager, my assistant manager, and several patients. I asked to transfer units. I was told no. I went to my union rep and union headquarters. I was told I would have to hire an attorney because there was nothing the union could do because I was not facing disciplinary action. They could only help if I was. So, I got a penis card from a sex offender signed by my boss for my birthday and the union couldn't even help me transfer to another unit. But they sure collected my dues.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:24 PM (39g3+)
btw, did the corrupt fbi rush to the shooting today?
Of course they did! They raced over there to do 2 things: do damage control for the Democrats, or help politicize the shooting for the Democrats.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at June 28, 2018 07:24 PM (0ejlr)
Yes there is, and don't call me Shirley.
Posted by: Paladin
Not quick enough on the draw. . . see #31
Posted by: Tonypete at June 28, 2018 07:24 PM (9rIkM)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2018 07:24 PM (dsGGq)
Posted by: gp at June 28, 2018 07:25 PM (mk9aG)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 28, 2018 07:15 PM (IqV8l)
"I *slurp*like it!"
- - Anita "Gorn" Dunn
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:25 PM (VM6ev)
Not a law expert.
Actually, in truth, the guy is really, really, stupid.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 28, 2018 07:25 PM (Axa8z)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 28, 2018 07:25 PM (89T5c)
What is JFC?
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 28, 2018 07:24 PM (Axa8z)
Jewish Fried Chicken
Posted by: Flawless Male Logic at June 28, 2018 07:25 PM (10vO4)
I know there are entire "hobby" forums given to the tracking and intel of every corporate jet and turbo-prop under FAA registration.
Bet the 4chan types could raid those databases, and let us know when the SEIU jet goes to the auction block.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at June 28, 2018 07:25 PM (QzJWU)
Posted by: runner at June 28, 2018 07:26 PM (bUjCl)
The Demoncrat Party is nothing more than Organized Crime.
--
It really is true. They're all knuckle crackers.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at June 28, 2018 07:26 PM (mQ0Mc)
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 28, 2018 07:27 PM (nILVB)
Posted by: Mallamutt at June 28, 2018 07:27 PM (MOlL1)
Posted by: runner at June 28, 2018 07:27 PM (bUjCl)
Posted by: Jewells45 at June 28, 2018 07:28 PM (dUJdY)
btw, the corrupt fbi and corrupt dept of justice and fake news announced today that "hate crimes" were charged against the white man for running over the white leftist woman.
The basis for the "hate crime" charge is....the act was racially motivated.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at June 28, 2018 07:28 PM (0ejlr)
Posted by: gp at June 28, 2018 07:25 PM (mk9aG)
Yeah, but Commies tend to shoot you in the back of the head, so it doesn't help if she's a cute chick.
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2018 07:28 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Pede at June 28, 2018 07:28 PM (uc45P)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:28 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: gp at June 28, 2018 07:25 PM (mk9aG)
Well, if you're gonna have a chica hang with the Joo-haters, she better be easy on the eyes.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:28 PM (VM6ev)
Most of the cop union guys are/were cops.
Posted by: tu3031 at June 28, 2018 07:29 PM (O5Q3r)
Posted by: Toad-O at June 28, 2018 07:29 PM (cct0t)
Second rule of democrat-fascism is you lie to the proles all the time.
The left is not even trying to hide it anymore. They are actually telling the truth about how they want to subjugate the people.
The republicans are going to romp in 2018 and Trump is going to have a huge win in 2020.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 28, 2018 07:29 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: gp at June 28, 2018 07:30 PM (mk9aG)
>>>Dont the unions also have private golf courses and resorts only for the muckity mucks?<<<
If Stormy Daniels isn't blowing me at least near the par four fifth hole, I'm thinking I want a remittance on my green fees.
Posted by: Fritz at June 28, 2018 07:31 PM (J7XgW)
Democrats sure do love funneling taxpayer money back to themselves.
Posted by: Kreplach at June 28, 2018 07:31 PM (UfMVm)
In his OFFICIAL visit to ISRAEL, William meets with hamas lite and tells them " We will never forget you" " I look forward to an enhanced relationship with the Fakestinian people.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2018 07:31 PM (dsGGq)
Also, how can the government both fund the unions *and* negotiate with the unions?
I know, I know, the NYT thinks that's a feature, not a bug. They want "the forgotten man" to financially cuckolded by rubbing his face in it.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 28, 2018 07:32 PM (W+vEI)
But I loved Jewish Fried Chicken! So I'm going with that. Unless that's offensive to Jews. Then I won't.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 28, 2018 07:32 PM (Axa8z)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Brings You Inspector General and his Electric Accordian Band! at June 28, 2018 07:32 PM (0QYMt)
Quick, name another job where you can work the same position for thirty years, add zero additional responsibility to your employment duties, and triple your salary before retiring with full benefits.
Illinois teacher. You can work 20 years as a union stooge, work one day as a substitute teacher and retire with a full teacher pension and benefits.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 28, 2018 07:32 PM (wdmm9)
IOW, the lid is going to blow off.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 28, 2018 07:32 PM (89T5c)
I didn't see a name yet. They did say white male in his 20s or 30s.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 28, 2018 07:32 PM (nILVB)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:33 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 28, 2018 07:33 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 28, 2018 07:33 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 28, 2018 07:33 PM (Axa8z)
Che was pretty, too, and he's still seducing idiots (via his t-shirts, etc.) into believing he was a revolutionary hero.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 28, 2018 07:33 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: runner at June 28, 2018 07:34 PM (bUjCl)
Posted by: Toad-O at June 28, 2018 07:34 PM (cct0t)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 28, 2018 07:34 PM (fA1SL)
I love George Costanza's "sweet fancy Moses!" oath. That one is always fun.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:34 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: TR at June 28, 2018 07:34 PM (jOSqt)
It was basically DOJ/FBI busy work as the state is already prosecuting the shit out of that guy.
Sessions is a god damned disgrace.
Pot, Car Manufacturers, College Recruiters, and people who are already being charged at the state level.
What a waste.
Posted by: Kreplach at June 28, 2018 07:35 PM (UfMVm)
I didn't see a name yet. They did say white male in his 20s or 30s.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 28, 2018 07:32 PM (nILVB)
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How come it is never Black male or hispanic male? I know. I know.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 28, 2018 07:35 PM (pw+jk)
Most of the cop union guys are/were cops.
Posted by: tu3031 at June 28, 2018 07:29 PM (O5Q3r)
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No, it doen't, but it would be pretty easy to do if you're the person who approves invoices for payment for a long period of time.
All you need is a partner to setup a business that provides "services" to the Union. However, when you finally do pull the plug, you had better head straight to the private jet that will take you to the non extradition country of your choice where you have stashed the stolen coin.
And, never come back.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 28, 2018 07:35 PM (I16G8)
Posted by: willow at June 28, 2018 07:35 PM (dPd5y)
Posted by: Fritz at June 28, 2018 07:31 PM (J7XgW)
No need for Stormy. We're the New York Times, so our staff provides that service.
Posted by: The Worst Little Whorehouse in New York at June 28, 2018 07:35 PM (59GGI)
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2018 07:35 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Anachronda at June 28, 2018 07:36 PM (xGZ+b)
Posted by: tu3031 at June 28, 2018 07:36 PM (O5Q3r)
In his OFFICIAL visit to ISRAEL, William meets with hamas lite and
tells them " We will never forget you" " I look forward to an enhanced
relationship with the Fakestinian people.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2018 07:31 PM (dsGGq)
In his defense he will one day be king of a muslim country.
Posted by: Whatever (not Ever) at June 28, 2018 07:36 PM (sXefu)
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2018 07:35 PM (sdi6R)
We hit it with lightning...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:36 PM (VM6ev)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 28, 2018 07:36 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Chiraq, every damn day at June 28, 2018 07:36 PM (W+vEI)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 28, 2018 07:36 PM (wdmm9)
I'm guilty of the JFC thing and always immediately look Heavenward and ask for forgiveness. Bad habit. I like the Jewish Fried Chicken thing though!
Posted by: Jewells45 at June 28, 2018 07:36 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: runner at June 28, 2018 07:36 PM (bUjCl)
The H stands for Herschel.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:37 PM (VM6ev)
Posted by: runner at June 28, 2018 07:37 PM (bUjCl)
I used to have a lot of respect for QE11, but she has become GBW anymore.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2018 07:37 PM (dsGGq)
Actually, that was a one-time loophole that two teachers union stooges tried to exploit, without success.
https://tinyurl.com/yaausw23
Posted by: Secret Square at June 28, 2018 07:38 PM (9WuX0)
I'm sure they'll keep this visit in mind while they're beheading him and hoisting the ISIS flag at Buckingham Palace.
Posted by: Chiraq, every damn day at June 28, 2018 07:38 PM (W+vEI)
Or why not just cut the middle man, and give the money straight to the DNC?
Posted by: George LeS at June 28, 2018 07:38 PM (59GGI)
I used to have a lot of respect for QE11, but she has become GBW anymore.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2018 07:37 PM (dsGGq)
yes. they always leaned toward the arab world. He was visiting in official capacity, too. could not go outside the mandate. I still hope that he will turn out like his mother, not his grandmother.
Posted by: runner at June 28, 2018 07:39 PM (bUjCl)
Its like Cotton Pickin'
Some guy on Fox asked a black guy also on Fox "are you out of your cotton pickin' mind???"
The usual easily-outraged suspects outraged at him saying this. Its racist you see. Cotton picking? Black?
I tried to point out that it has nothing to do with color, that its a semi-polite way of substituting for G-D and that whites picked craploads of cotton such as Johnny freaking Cash, but they had their narrative.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:40 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2018 07:40 PM (QDnY+)
Now where have I heard that idea before....on.the.tip.of.my.tongue. Think, think, think....
Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2018 07:40 PM (Enq6K)
"This is our nation's 195th mass shooting - this year."
hundreds of millions dying each day!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:40 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: The Feds at June 28, 2018 07:40 PM (Q9ugn)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 28, 2018 07:41 PM (+xnSO)
IOW, the lid is going to blow off.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 28, 2018 07:32 PM (89T5c)
Yea, I don't know how they survive that. They are so unhinged, have dialed themselves and each other to defcon eleventy...and I don't know where all that hate and fear go? I guess violence.
Also, if new SCOTUS judge gets approved, there could be an explosion then. Chris Matthews has lost his marbles over that one. He could stroke out.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 28, 2018 07:41 PM (Axa8z)
Posted by: Max Power at June 28, 2018 07:41 PM (q177U)
The "14 words" is a white supremacist slogan that goes "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."
New DHS press release is also 14 words, and is titled: "We Must Secure The Border And Build The Wall To Make America Safe Again"
FOURTEEN!!!! FOURTEEN!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:41 PM (39g3+)
Someone in the comments of some other thread talked about staying in
the teacher's union because it offered protection in case they were sued
by a student. Now that sounds like it could be worth something. I don't
know what it costs to buy that kind of insurance on your own, but
getting it as part of union membership has to be of value.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 28, 2018 07:12 PM (pvjTE)
I didn't join a union (AZ right to work) but as a Special Ed. teacher carried liability insurance. it was very reasonable. "parent advocates" (lawyers) love going after SPED teachers and district programs for "failure to educate" and students are savvy about claiming teacher is racist or a pervert just because they are pissed off at them.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 28, 2018 07:42 PM (2CQCl)
One thing that I believe IS an actual issue is the protection of public sector union members such as cops. being in a situation with a mayor such as in Baltimore , where the mayor is corrupt and siccing people on members, and the now lack of atty assistance if cops should find themselves in conflict Because OF political scams such as Lynch/ re NYPD and Freddie Grey as blackmail.
police make a pretty nice salary but not good enough to withstand that onslaught.
so ..
whats the solution to this type of activity and lack of protection?
=============
Look, the ruling did not abolish unions. It only stopped you from being forced to be in one. It now comes down to cost/benefit. If you are so worried about the above, join the union. If you're not, don't. This isn't Rocket Science.
Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at June 28, 2018 07:42 PM (iJhFW)
Uh, so will the Democrats, who will be hurtin' without their yuge union campaign donations?!?
LOL
Posted by: Lizzy at June 28, 2018 07:42 PM (W+vEI)
... Auburn/Lewistown Maine has a damn nice little Memorial Park built to their Veterans. It was a pleasure to see such a thing.
Posted by: ScoggDog at June 28, 2018 07:43 PM (DOpvX)
But it could get ugly out there. I'm from the Philly area and these unions ain't nice.
Posted by: jeannebodine at June 28, 2018 07:43 PM (ttFx9)
The "14 words" is a white supremacist slogan that goes "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."
New DHS press release is also 14 words, and is titled: "We Must Secure The Border And Build The Wall To Make America Safe Again"
FOURTEEN!!!! FOURTEEN!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:41 PM (39g3+)
That sounds like something Calypso Louie would say. He's pretty big on numerology.
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2018 07:44 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 28, 2018 07:44 PM (fA1SL)
In his OFFICIAL visit to ISRAEL, William meets with hamas lite and tells them " We will never forget you" " I look forward to an enhanced relationship with the Fakestinian people.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2018 07:31 PM (dsGGq)
Told ya so. Not you Ben, but others were very pro William thinking he was gonna be great, and I was telling them I didn't thing so and why.
And there it is. Disappointed, yes. Surprised, no.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 28, 2018 07:44 PM (Axa8z)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:36 PM (VM6ev)
Huh...so thats where the term Jewish Lightning comes from.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (2CQCl)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (dsGGq)
The "14 words" is a white supremacist slogan that goes "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."
New DHS press release is also 14 words, and is titled: "We Must Secure The Border And Build The Wall To Make America Safe Again"
FOURTEEN!!!! FOURTEEN!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:41 PM (39g3+)
Implying this wasn't done on purpose to troll the commies.
Posted by: DHS Iceback Queen at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (Q9ugn)
163 Just occurred to me. Since we Old Farts are all getting Social Security, which is money from the gummint, doesn't that mean we are employees? And therefore couldn't we fall under this wise and just rule?
are you starting a social security recipients' union?
Posted by: Anachronda at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (xGZ+b)
>>How come it is never Black male or hispanic male? I know. I know.
Seriously?!?
Posted by: Chiraq, every damn day at June 28, 2018 07:36 PM (W+vEI)
Gosh I'm sorry. When was the last time I heard in any criminal description in the media "black" or "Hispanic"?
Oh I remember White Hispanic George Zimmerman.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: Jewish fried chicken at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (UdKB7)
Public Sector Unions should definitely be outlawed as they represent an unfair arrangement for transferal of taxpayer funds from bought and paid for politicians to unions who funnel a shit ton of back to the same politicians.
You have Unions and politicians on one side colluding on how much they can swindle from the taxpayers.
There is absolutely no taxpayer representation in any of these dealings.
Posted by: Kreplach at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (UfMVm)
Posted by: runner at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (bUjCl)
++++
Eugene Volokh put up the same idea yesterday.
https://reason.com/volokh/2018/06/
27/the-limited-effects-of-the-supreme-court
But, he fails to address the first problem in deciding to reduce the wages of the union workers. That is, UNION workers work under a contract. Their wages are already set in place. Nobody, not even the Legislature, can just reduce their wages in violation of their contract.
Of course, the government can try to negotiate lower wages in the next contract, but doesn't the government already try to do that? In theory, anyway.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (pvjTE)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (IqV8l)
Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at June 28, 2018 07:42 PM (iJhFW)
-----
It was more than that. It stops Unions from being able to forcibly collect dues from non union employees, a law that had been in place for years because these employees " benefited" from Union negotiated work terms.
Posted by: Calm Mentor at June 28, 2018 07:46 PM (I16G8)
158 The H stands for Herschel.
wasn't he the guy who was around the corner from the burning bush in the noted documentary film Wholly Moses?
Posted by: Anachronda at June 28, 2018 07:47 PM (xGZ+b)
Posted by: Fritz at June 28, 2018 07:47 PM (J7XgW)
Posted by: BluesFish at June 28, 2018 07:47 PM (I4RKE)
Ancient Slavonaut theorists say yes.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 28, 2018 07:48 PM (fA1SL)
wages in the next contract, but doesn't the government already try to
do that? In theory, anyway.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (pvjTE)
====
Oh you made me laugh and laugh and laugh...
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 28, 2018 07:48 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: redridinghood at June 28, 2018 07:48 PM (PvFoN)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:41 PM (39g3+)
Leftists seem pretty well versed on white supremacy obscura. Almost as if the kkk and other white supremacist neo nazi groups were leftist organizations. Weird.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 28, 2018 07:48 PM (wdmm9)
The "14 words" is a white supremacist slogan that goes "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."
New DHS press release is also 14 words, and is titled: "We Must Secure The Border And Build The Wall To Make America Safe Again"
FOURTEEN!!!! FOURTEEN!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:41 PM (39g3+)
Oh my glockienspiel. Is this twitter or the left, including media? This is insanity land. I'm worried for them. This is what happens when people have been gaslit though. They do start to go crazy. They see conspiracy everywhere.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 28, 2018 07:48 PM (Axa8z)
for the taxpayer, are SUPPOSED to be on the OPPOSITE SIDE of the
Negotiating Table from the Unions, not in bed with them!"
^ This.
Which is why even talking about the government's collecting of union dues is a bracing breeze of the absurd reality of the true relationship (and why we have trillions of dollars of unfunded pension debt).
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at June 28, 2018 07:48 PM (vJCwr)
Posted by: vivi at June 28, 2018 07:49 PM (11H2y)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (2CQCl)
No, that was pioneered by Elijah. Check out 2 Kings 1.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 28, 2018 07:49 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at June 28, 2018 07:50 PM (eASYU)
Ancient Slavonaut theorists say yes.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 28, 2018 07:48 PM (fA1SL)
this theory need more archeo-culinary research...over vodka and vobla
Posted by: runner at June 28, 2018 07:50 PM (bUjCl)
I wouldn't laugh if the line was directed a leftist.
I might, possibly, agree with the sentiment. But I wouldn't laugh. IT IS NOT FUNNY.
Gah the world is stupid.
Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at June 28, 2018 07:50 PM (nBr1j)
My parents taught. My father, vice-presidentially, would NOT be in a room alone with a female student (or a group of them.)
Even if the union would have defended him from false harassment charges (unlikely), the accusation alone would have ended his career. And they would not have helped with any family-bankrupting civil charges.
The school did have female non-teaching employees to "help out" in class... that is, hang around so head-case female students couldn't just he-said/she-said a 'Mr. Jones touched my butt' if they didn't like their grades.
Posted by: mikeski at June 28, 2018 07:51 PM (JGBbg)
Florida man dialing 911 while gasping the hood of a late model Mercedes being driven by his girlfriend.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman at June 28, 2018 07:51 PM (VgKNm)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:36 PM (VM6ev)
Huh...so thats where the term Jewish Lightning comes from.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (2CQCl)
You should see what we can do with pot roast...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:51 PM (VM6ev)
I was reading. The SJWs and abort crowd is going to go all out on the Kennedy seat. This is going to be worse than Bork, Clarence Thomas and all the others combined.
Now, the idiot Dems gave up the filibuster by filibustering Gorsuch, which didn't affect the balance of the Court. But their lunatic base demanded it.
So, now they can't filibuster, but their lunatic base is gonna demand they go balls to the wall, somehow.
Now, remember when the Wisconsin Dems fled the state to deny a quorum in the legislature?
Well, since McStain is not going to show up, we've only got 50 Reps. If all 49 Senate Dems were to go hide, then there would be majority for Constitutional quorum for the Senate to do business.
The question is does VP Mike Pence count for quorum purposes.
You may think that's nuts, they wouldn't dare do that. But you ain't seen nothing yet. Kennedy is the hill they're going to die on.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at June 28, 2018 07:51 PM (8O3HH)
Busy telling the radio guy that:
1. There was absolutely no way that union dues would make it into the coffers of the DNC
2. This ruling would impact the DNC financially in a very bad way.
The radio host was kind enough to point out that the caller was contradicting himself.
And then hung up on him.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 28, 2018 07:51 PM (EyPfd)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 28, 2018 07:45 PM (2CQCl)
No, that was pioneered by Elijah. Check out 2 Kings 1.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 28, 2018 07:49 PM (CPk0
Pfft. Our weather controlling joo-joo is much more sophisticated.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:52 PM (VM6ev)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 28, 2018 07:52 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Dick at June 28, 2018 07:52 PM (SRarZ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:51 PM (VM6ev)
JJ...LMAO.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 28, 2018 07:52 PM (2CQCl)
If we eliminated social welfare, they would cease to exist as a party. With no more money to hand out, constituencies like the Puerto Rican's in Florida would probably go home.
Posted by: Marcus T, Jambalaya at June 28, 2018 07:52 PM (TpbP3)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:52 PM (VM6ev)
I should hope so. We've been on it for millenia now.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 28, 2018 07:53 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 28, 2018 07:53 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: 13times at June 28, 2018 07:53 PM (K3B2k)
years. You think they'll stop paying NJEA dues with that kind of
motivation?
Posted by: BluesFish at June 28, 2018 07:47 PM (I4RKE)
=====
Now look at the work time put in and adjust. In the PRoC teachers work 180 days a year, sometimes less. A normal private sector might get 3 weeks vaco and two weeks holidays which works out to 47 weeks at 5 days a week or 235 days a year. 235/180 = 1.31 multiplier. So a private worker would have to earn $157,000 per year. How many private sector workers get that? A small percentage and I bet those are working 60-80 hour weeks.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at June 28, 2018 07:53 PM (pw+jk)
IOW, the lid is going to blow off.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 28, 2018 07:32 PM (89T5c)
Yea, I don't know how they survive that. They are so unhinged, have dialed themselves and each other to defcon eleventy...and I don't know where all that hate and fear go? I guess violence.
Also, if new SCOTUS judge gets approved, there could be an explosion then. Chris Matthews has lost his marbles over that one. He could stroke out.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 28, 2018 07:41 PM (Axa8z)
Shit, they are still in the denial stage of grief, not sure they have made it to the anger stage yet
Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 28, 2018 07:53 PM (M+Lyo)
Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at June 28, 2018 07:50 PM (nBr1j)
For many leftists- who are stupid, granted- they find titillation is being horse's asses. It is the fact she called her a feckless cunt *teeheehee*, don't you know?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 28, 2018 07:53 PM (+xnSO)
John McCain approves, then again, it could be the tumor talking.
MY PRECIOUS.
Posted by: 13times at June 28, 2018 07:53 PM (K3B2k)
Posted by: John Mccain' at June 28, 2018 07:53 PM (CPk08)
John McCain approves, then again, it could be the tumor talking.
MY PRECIOUS.
Posted by: 13times at June 28, 2018 07:53 PM (K3B2k)
That tutor must be visible from space now.
Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at June 28, 2018 07:54 PM (nBr1j)
Someone who most likely has never performed actual labor being an expert in the field.
Also this tells you everything you need to know about how catastrophic the decision is for these leeches. To come up with something desperate, it tells you the entire bomb load hit dead center.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 28, 2018 07:54 PM (4ErVI)
It's not a war...we got that wrong. They are having a collective nervous breakdown. I don't know what those look like, IRL, but it seems they are slowing reaching the apex of it.
When I look at the Unhinged ad, and now this abolish ICE, and take people's money, and all the other stuff. .. Nervous Breakdown.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 28, 2018 07:54 PM (Axa8z)
Posted by: John McCain's Glioblastoma at June 28, 2018 07:54 PM (CPk08)
I wouldn't laugh if the line was directed a leftist.
I might, possibly, agree with the sentiment. But I wouldn't laugh. IT IS NOT FUNNY.
She is a "comedian" delivering a punchline. Most people will socially laugh at the appropriate timing of a punchline in a live show. Especially when the audience generally politically aligns with her and there is a giant red flashing light that says "laugh" and you have been told to laugh when the sign lights up.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 28, 2018 07:54 PM (wdmm9)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 28, 2018 07:55 PM (fA1SL)
Someone who most likely has never performed actual labor being an expert in the field.
Also this tells you everything you need to know about how catastrophic the decision is for these leeches. To come up with something desperate, it tells you the entire bomb load hit dead center.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 28, 2018 07:54 PM (4ErVI)
Wow. Just listened to Rush talking about an article that posits that every single financial, political, policy and military disaster was caused by Ivy League experts and their policies.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:55 PM (VM6ev)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:52 PM (VM6ev)
Hey, JJ, with August coming up here in Kentucky *looks side to side* what would it take to give us some lower humidity? *slides a coupon face down across the table*
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 28, 2018 07:55 PM (+xnSO)
Someone who most likely has never performed actual labor being an expert in the field.
Also this tells you everything you need to know about how catastrophic the decision is for these leeches. To come up with something desperate, it tells you the entire bomb load hit dead center.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 28, 2018 07:54 PM (4ErVI)
I think the NYT got a bit confused about what labor meant and called an obstetrician by mistake.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 28, 2018 07:56 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: Mark at June 28, 2018 07:56 PM (KGGB2)
Posted by: mr tmz at June 28, 2018 07:56 PM (m/Gc2)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:52 PM (VM6ev)
Hey, JJ, with August coming up here in Kentucky *looks side to side* what would it take to give us some lower humidity? *slides a coupon face down across the table*
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 28, 2018 07:55 PM (+xnSO)
5,000 gallons of Jacob Danielstein....
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:57 PM (VM6ev)
Yeah and that's basically true (to the extent the union did anything) but the problems started with the unions then taking that money and dumping it into the pockets of leftist politicians and activists.
Unions had two choices: stop doing that, or eventually a ruling like the one that just happened will strip them of cash.
They chose poorly.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:57 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 28, 2018 07:55 PM (fA1SL)
What a silly idea.
Posted by: Rick Hendrick at June 28, 2018 07:57 PM (DOpvX)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
But Johnny Cash was the man in black, you dogwhistling racist deplorable!
Posted by: the Left at June 28, 2018 07:57 PM (JGBbg)
Posted by: mr tmz at June 28, 2018 07:56 PM (m/Gc2)
I think its members that do the buggering...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:57 PM (VM6ev)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 28, 2018 07:57 PM (EoRCO)
exist as a party. With no more money to hand out, constituencies like
the Puerto Rican's in Florida would probably go home.
Posted by: Marcus T, Jambalaya at June 28, 2018 07:52 PM (TpbP3)
It's even more insidious than that. They require a permanent underclass. If the poor were allowed to elevate themselves from poverty there'd be no reason for Democrats to exist at all. Housing projects and the welfare system keep people in poverty by design. Get a job or get married? Less benefits. Minorities find their own way out? Import more.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 28, 2018 07:58 PM (rnXGe)
Posted by: mr tmz at June 28, 2018 07:56 PM (m/Gc2)
Yeah, well from where I'm sitting that sort of thing doesn't always work out so well for whoever is doing the buggering.
Posted by: John McCain's Glioblastoma at June 28, 2018 07:58 PM (CPk08)
I agree, they really know some arcane secrets of the white supremacist movement.
But... what's wrong with wanting to protect your kids? I mean, would they think this statement was a horrendous evil racist thing to say:
"We must secure the existence of our people and a future for Hispanic children."
or Black, or Asian, or whatever. Is that supremacist racism in action?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 07:58 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:57 PM (VM6ev)
Hah!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 28, 2018 07:58 PM (+xnSO)
Now, remember when the Wisconsin Dems fled the state to deny a quorum in the legislature?
Well, since McStain is not going to show up, we've only got 50 Reps. If all 49 Senate Dems were to go hide, then there would be majority for Constitutional quorum for the Senate to do business.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at June 28, 2018 07:51 PM (8O3HH)
If the Senate Dems flee the country to avoid a vote, can we revoke their passports?
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2018 07:58 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:52 PM
Meh. According to the highest source of truth, the CNN chyron yesterday, weather control is on the verge of being automated. First will come supplementation, & then replacement.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 28, 2018 07:59 PM (DMUuz)
I'm the union man
You can call me Rudy
Any you boys not paid up on your cards?
You know I'm pleased to meet ya
Been tryin' all day to reach ya
The union's here to help everyone of you
Rock and roll stars
Rock and roll stars
Posted by: Guy who relates everything to a Zappa song at June 28, 2018 08:00 PM (UdKB7)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 28, 2018 07:59 PM (DMUuz)
And who is designing the microchips? Hm?
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 28, 2018 08:00 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
But Johnny Cash was the man in black, you dogwhistling racist deplorable!
Posted by: the Left at June 28, 2018 07:57 PM (JGBbg)
...
I wondered aloud about this on an earlier thread.
My MIL has clear memories of riding on the sack while her mom dragged it through the fields, picking cotton.
For the last 150 years it's been something everybody does.
Maybe the black community has always considered this an insult and just never given notice anywhere that the news got to me, but I never considered that to be upsetting or offensive in any way.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 28, 2018 08:00 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 28, 2018 08:00 PM (rnXGe)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 28, 2018 08:00 PM (rnXGe)
I'll take it.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 08:01 PM (VM6ev)
MY PRECIOUS.
Posted by: 13times at June 28, 2018 07:53 PM (K3B2k)
That tutor must be visible from space now.
Posted by: Northernlurker, but call me Teem at June 28, 2018 07:54 PM (nBr1j)
When he goes, and I hope it is very soon, that there tumor should be dug out of his ass, put in a glass container and appointed to his vacant seat.
Senator Tumor, from Arizona. Has a nice ring to it.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 28, 2018 08:01 PM (EoRCO)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 28, 2018 07:57 PM (EoRCO)
No.
If I choose to bargain collectively ... I will.
Abolish some of their protections.
Posted by: ScoggDog at June 28, 2018 08:01 PM (DOpvX)
Take. The. Money.
Posted by: Your Decidedly Devious Uncle Palpatine, SMR and Ancient Slavonaut Newsletters at June 28, 2018 08:02 PM (fA1SL)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 28, 2018 08:00 PM (rnXGe)
Would it be something you would enjoy/tolerate/not hate?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 28, 2018 08:02 PM (+xnSO)
overtime...even lunch hour, for heaven's sake, and the Wire Service
Workers Union did crap for us..but our union reps would visit our office
on w. 34th st. twice a year. The guy had a custom made suit. The gal
had a fur coat.
First corporate job I ever had growing up was as a stocker in a department store back in the 70s. It was a union job (I forget which one). Union rep used to come by to glad hand everybody every couple of months. Drove a yellow El Dorado and had a diamond pinky ring the size of my fist.
Posted by: tu3031 at June 28, 2018 08:02 PM (O5Q3r)
Posted by: lin-duh at June 28, 2018 08:02 PM (kufk0)
Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2018 08:02 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2018 08:02 PM (sdi6R)
No way this nonsense continues through the fall, but ....... would be awesome.
Problem remains: will a GOP House and enhanced GOP majority in the Senate actually ..... *do* anything?*
* "but judges" - the rational person's version of the N-Trumper psychos' "but Gorsuch"
Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2018 08:02 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman
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Garbage Man?
Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at June 28, 2018 08:02 PM (+ldAm)
Senator Tumor, from Arizona. Has a nice ring to it.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 28, 2018 08:01 PM (EoRCO)
We can name it "Chuck". Senator Chuck Tumor.
Hmmmm....
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 28, 2018 08:02 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:55 PM (VM6ev)
Pretty much. Remember the Vietnam War Brain Trust? That went over really well.
You could go anywhere in the country and get someone who spent a few decades doing actual physical labor but got hurt and had to quit working and give them the title Harvard Labor Expert and the results would improve 100%
Their day would consist of sitting in classrooms and dissertation committee meetings literally saying, "You've never done this type of work before, have you?" after listening to two minutes of some budding "labor expert" with baby soft hands droning on about their research paper.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 28, 2018 08:02 PM (4ErVI)
I think its one of those urban/rural divide things, they have no context to think about it, haven't heard the term and went nuts screaming when they heard it the first time.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 08:03 PM (39g3+)
I don't think this Benjamin Sachs character has thought-through the ramifications of this one:
1) Donk politicians help themselves to employee's money
2) Piss off lots of formerly reliable Donk voters
3) ?
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 28, 2018 08:03 PM (5Yee7)
Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2018 08:03 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2018 08:03 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2018 08:03 PM (QDnY+)
Those 39 year olds! Buncha racists!
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 28, 2018 08:04 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2018 08:04 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Marcus T, Jambalaya at June 28, 2018 08:05 PM (TpbP3)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 08:01 PM (VM6ev)
But realize if I do then it will be absolutely guaranteed for the public pension crisis to implode in exactly 10 years.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 28, 2018 08:05 PM (rnXGe)
If I choose to bargain collectively ... I will.
Abolish some of their protections.
Posted by: ScoggDog at June 28, 2018 08:01 PM (DOpvX)
I'd get rid of the government unions, but otherwise I agree. Many of the things we accept as basic work stuff were hard fought for. I make jokes about putting kids to work in coal mines and paying them with cartons of cigarettes, but really I don't want to see it happen.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 28, 2018 08:05 PM (4ErVI)
Shotgun bans soon in NJ, CA, NY, MA?
I'm so confusulated. I thought the AR platform was magically evil, "weapon of war", blah blah blah. If I were smarter I'd probably figure it all out.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2018 08:05 PM (QDnY+)
Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2018 08:03 PM (Enq6K)
So they know who he is- he melted his finger tips for nothing.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 28, 2018 08:06 PM (+xnSO)
...where workers were just trash you replaced when they died from horrible working conditions while paying them pennies, which you then deduced 'expenses' from until they were in debt.
to here
...where unions crush companies by their tactics and increase the cost of living on everyone with exorbitant pay, benefits, and retirement packages all the while taking dues to funnel into leftist causes
We need the pendulum to stop wildly swaying and stabilize things. Unions and businesses, not so nuts either way.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 08:06 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 28, 2018 08:05 PM (4ErVI)
I hope not. Shouldn't smoke in a coal mine.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 28, 2018 08:06 PM (CPk08)
Please do this. Please also don't just tax the members of your state who belong to unions, either. Please tax everyone--I mean, they're Public Sector Unions, right? The whole Public benefits!
At the same time, please be sure to include raising taxes enough to covering the currently unfunded pensions for public sector union employees.
One tidy package.
We promise to resolutely uphold the principle of states rights in this matter. Pinky promise. Hell, we'll come applaud the signing of the bill.
Thanks in advance.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 28, 2018 08:07 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: rhomboid at June 28, 2018 08:05 PM (QDnY+)
They will smoothly segue over to saying all gun are inherently evil, don't you worry.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 28, 2018 08:07 PM (+xnSO)
Posted by: Regular joe at June 28, 2018 08:07 PM (7PllL)
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 28, 2018 08:00 PM (rnXGe)
Somebody will take that gig.
Stop being a dumb-ass ... and make sure that somebody is you.
Posted by: ScoggDog at June 28, 2018 08:07 PM (DOpvX)
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 28, 2018 08:00 PM
And we appreciate it, round eye.
Posted by: China 2025 at June 28, 2018 08:07 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2018 08:07 PM (Enq6K)
Stop being a dumb-ass ... and make sure that somebody is you.
Posted by: ScoggDog at June 28, 2018 08:07 PM (DOpvX)
damn straight.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 28, 2018 08:07 PM (CPk08)
====================================
You killed Black Tom Cassidy, you racist bastard!
Posted by: theATL at June 28, 2018 08:08 PM (yFgwo)
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 28, 2018 08:06 PM (CPk0
It's for the two hours off on Sundays.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 28, 2018 08:08 PM (4ErVI)
Sent threats through social media...
Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2018 08:08 PM (Enq6K)
I just walked off the job one day and never came back.
Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 28, 2018 08:08 PM (M+Lyo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLWMJORk_dA
Posted by: micky at June 28, 2018 08:09 PM (dF9Lb)
Stop being a dumb-ass ... and make sure that somebody is you.
Posted by: ScoggDog at June 28, 2018 08:07 PM (DOpvX)
Scogg does speak wisdom here (I know, right?) You can always find another job if you hate it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 28, 2018 08:09 PM (+xnSO)
Quick, name another job where you can work the same position for thirty
years, add zero additional responsibility to your employment duties, and
triple your salary before retiring with full benefits.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman
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Stormy Daniels?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 28, 2018 08:09 PM (rnXGe)
Posted by: The Gimp with a 12 inch strap on at June 28, 2018 08:10 PM (Q9ugn)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 08:10 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: tu3031 at June 28, 2018 08:02 PM (O5Q3r)
...
My FIL is/was a Teamsters politician.
Actually did time for embezzling from them.
Ended up getting re-elected. Did in fact straighten out. Ended up over two districts in the end, so gets a pension from both of them.
I'm not sure in my lifetime that my annual salary will ever rise to what that guy pulls down in retirement on two pensions.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 28, 2018 08:11 PM (yL25O)
Quick, name another job where you can work the same position for thirty
years, add zero additional responsibility to your employment duties, and
triple your salary before retiring with full benefits.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - I choose to live my life as a black woman
-------
Stormy Daniels?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at June 28, 2018 08:09 PM (rnXGe0
TBF, she's worked in any number of positions.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at June 28, 2018 08:11 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2018 08:11 PM (Enq6K)
And the ones who are globalists don't seem to have a problem with outsourcing our manufacturing to China and other countries with no real labor laws. I remember about a Chinese company that makes electronics for the American market putting up nets on their building to keep employees from committing suicide.
Posted by: rickl at June 28, 2018 08:11 PM (sdi6R)
Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2018 08:12 PM (Enq6K)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 28, 2018 08:13 PM (+xnSO)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara, now with a spark of divinity at June 28, 2018 08:13 PM (hDNQh)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2018 08:03 PM (39g3+)
...
Fits the profile.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 28, 2018 08:14 PM (yL25O)
I've seen them fight tooth and nail alongside other state workers if anyone even talks about pension reforms.
I hope it withers and dies away.
Posted by: Pede at June 28, 2018 07:23 PM (uc45P)
Not always. Ohio did some pretty revisions to the Police & Fireman's Pension Fund a few years ago in order to make sure the fund stays viable. I personally lost my COLA for a few years.
I think Ohio did a good job of communicating to the public safety community the reasoning behind the revisions and got buy-in from most people affected.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 28, 2018 08:16 PM (5Yee7)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 28, 2018 07:52 PM
About that, where do I send complaints? Um, I mean compliments?
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at June 28, 2018 08:16 PM (Axa8z)
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 28, 2018 08:17 PM (5Yee7)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 28, 2018 08:09 PM (+xnSO)
I used to take a great deal of pleasure in saying I Told You So.
Turns out ... doing anything day after day after day gets boring.
Posted by: ScoggDog at June 28, 2018 08:18 PM (DOpvX)
Fucking bullshit.
Posted by: Dang at June 28, 2018 08:28 PM (xHHR4)
Posted by: Larry at June 28, 2018 08:35 PM (K6giM)
I was a union member when I worked for UPI; we had to give up
overtime...even lunch hour, for heaven's sake, and the Wire Service
Workers Union did crap for us..but our union reps would visit our office
on w. 34th st. twice a year. The guy had a custom made suit. The gal
had a fur coat.
First corporate job I ever had growing up was as a stocker in a department store back in the 70s. It was a union job (I forget which one). Union rep used to come by to glad hand everybody every couple of months. Drove a yellow El Dorado and had a diamond pinky ring the size of my fist.
Posted by: tu3031 at June 28, 2018 08:02 PM (O5Q3r)
Had a sales guy working for our company a few years back who owned a Porsche, but whenever he did customer visits in the LA area where he lived, he'd either drive a rental or his wife's sensible mid-sized Toyota.
The LAST thing he wanted to convey to customers is that he was making boatloads of cash off of them. More than one salesperson in our industry made that mistake, driving expensive cars to customer locations.
Knew one of them who was enormously proud of his Dodge Viper (sweet ride, by the way). Nice guy, actually didn't need the sales job, he was loaded. And he lost a couple of customers when he cluelessly showed the Viper off.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 28, 2018 08:36 PM (eXA4G)
Posted by: Amy Schumer at June 28, 2018 08:40 PM (sXefu)
College tuition for the kids? Added pension benefits?
And wouldn't all those goodies then attract more people to join unions over time? And make unions more popular? And potentially reduce the cost of hiring union members to a employer, who might not have to provide those benefit gratis?
Instead they steal the money, or give it away to politicians, who blow it getting elected. No wonder it is a failed model.
Posted by: Dean Wormer at June 28, 2018 08:57 PM (fftfA)
... and that beach front property I have for sale in Albuquerque
Posted by: SMOD at June 28, 2018 09:11 PM (e8kgV)
Only a complete madman alters his fingerprints thru pain and mutilation.
Posted by: Fritz at June 28, 2018 09:13 PM (J7XgW)
This thievery was facilitated through bogus personal 'charities' whose only charitable objects were the individual UAW fat cats in control. These personal 'charities' are very popular among union fat cats for the graft they deliver, surreptitiously.
This chicanery is also occurring at the Ford and GM UAW Departments. The UAW is so badly compromised that they will be unable to deliver the votes, in Michigan, in 2018. The rank and file is stone cold furious.
Posted by: 10x25mm at June 28, 2018 11:37 PM (Kz+di)
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