Wayne Allen Root: I Was Politically Targeted for an IRS Audit and I Can Prove It

The Obama critic has posted his account at Fox News.

Root was audited in 2011. He got a call from the IRS, in which the agent told him about his (Root's) political views -- something that's not supposed to happen, obviously.

He spent thousands of dollars on his defense and prevailed in Tax Court in 2012 -- at which time he was informed he was being audited again, something his tax lawyer said he'd never heard of before.

Then he began FOIA'ing the IRS to find out what was going on.

By law, the IRS has 30 days to comply. They stalled and refused for 14 months. The question is why would a government agency disobey the law for 13 months?

Now come the political and criminal revelations. The IRS is supposed to be totally nonpolitical, as it must be in a free and fair democratic society. Do you know what my IRS tax file says?

"SENSITIVE CASE."

Do you know the date "SENSITIVE CASE" was written on my tax file? The week Lois Lerner testified in Congress.

The only thing "SENSITIVE" about my case is that I'm a conservative political columnist and commentator often critical of the president. The only context where “sensitive” applies to me is “POLITICALLY SENSITIVE."

Why would a citizen’s tax file be tied to his politics? Why would the IRS know my politics? Why would a normal random audit be classified as "SENSITIVE?"

...

The reason it may have taken the IRS fourteen months to turn my IRS files over to Judicial Watch is that they state a United States senator from Oregon was involved. At the time both senators from Oregon were Democrats. But only one, Ron Wyden, was chairman of the Senate Finance Committee with oversight over...the IRS. Could Ron Wyden have been the Democrat senator involved in my case?

If so, why was a U.S. senator involved in a "normal random audit?" Why was an Oregon Senator involved in the audit of a Nevada small businessman? Since when do United States Senators get involved in IRS audits?

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But wait, we’re not done. On May 23, 2013, my case was officially closed. Recognize that date? It's the exact day that IRS official Lois Lerner was suspended and the day after she testified in front of Congress (and refused to answer questions on the grounds it might incriminate her). Coincidence?

Why was my case closed? The IRS auditor handling my case informed my tax attorney that he had just been called by a top IRS official demanding the case be closed immediately. Why would a top IRS official get involved in my case? Who asked him to make that call? Did he know the politically damaging details of this audit marked “SENSITIVE CASE"? Why did it happen the very day after Lois Lerner's testimony?

There is no debate. I am living proof that there was a widespread political witch hunt and criminal conspiracy within the IRS. It is also proof that this scandal extended beyond the IRS to high-level Democrats -- including a specific Democratic U.S. Senator. It's all in black and white in my personal IRS tax files. These are facts.

People need to go to jail.

Posted by: Ace at 11:50 AM




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1 I am Root?

Posted by: I am Root at May 05, 2015 11:51 AM (K7krX)

2 Jail?


Pfffft. For what? There is nothing in our criminal code that makes it illegal to target racists and bigots and h8ers. Your government was merely doing its civic duty in erasing these conservatives from polite society.

Or society at all, really.

/Holder-Lynch-Obama-Hillary-Warren

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at May 05, 2015 11:54 AM (fwARV)

3 They need to go to jail, but they won't.

Posted by: chiefjaybob at May 05, 2015 11:54 AM (2L77z)

4 local news story

Posted by: Roy at May 05, 2015 11:55 AM (VndSC)

5 Good grief, how many "coincidences" are we supposed to believe? If Pookette comes to me with cookie crumbs all over her mouth and the package of cookies is open and empty, am I supposed to just write it off as a coincidence?

Posted by: pookysgirl at May 05, 2015 11:55 AM (dCUzJ)

6 Since when do United States Senators get involved in IRS audits?



pffffft. Since when do they get involved in Fight Club?

Posted by: pep at May 05, 2015 11:56 AM (GMG6W)

7 4 local news story

Posted by: Roy at May 05, 2015 11:55 AM (VndSC)




Old news. We've been over that many times before. /liberal

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 05, 2015 11:56 AM (oKE6c)

8 The IRS is supposed to be totally nonpolitical, as it must be in a free and fair democratic society.

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I think wishing for a non-political executive agency is foolish. By its nature it is political. It is an executive agency - it is an agent of the President.

Posted by: SH at May 05, 2015 11:57 AM (gmeXX)

9 Yo Ace, fix your quotes bro

Posted by: xanderphife at May 05, 2015 11:57 AM (H3WNZ)

10 Good grief, how many "coincidences" are we supposed to believe?

Nobody believes it. They know the truth, they just don't care. Power is everything to these people.

Posted by: pep at May 05, 2015 11:57 AM (GMG6W)

11 Ace, there need to be quote blocks on this story... the way it looks now, it looks like YOUR tax file is being discussed

Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at May 05, 2015 11:57 AM (oerr2)

12 He was saying racist things about our beloved affirmative action hired president, so he invited it. He knew and invited his audit.... or something.

Posted by: Phil at May 05, 2015 11:58 AM (39FGM)

13 My files have been turned over to U.S. Senate investigators. I stand ready and eager to testify.

Hate to say it, but Senate GOP leadership wants the guy out of the picture almost as much as the Dems do.

Posted by: @JohnTant` at May 05, 2015 11:58 AM (PFy0L)

14 I think wishing for a non-political executive agency is foolish. By its nature it is political. It is an executive agency - it is an agent of the President.
Posted by: SH


And an agency of the permanent bureaucratic class that holds unelected power.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 05, 2015 11:59 AM (K7krX)

15 That scribbling you hear is Richard Nixon taking envy notes from the grave.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 05, 2015 11:59 AM (659DL)

16 The question is why would a government agency disobey the law for 13 months?

There's no consequences, that's why.

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 05, 2015 12:00 PM (ZKzrr)

17 The question is why would a government agency disobey the law for 13 months?

Same reason a dog licks itself.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 05, 2015 12:00 PM (W5DcG)

18 People need to go to jail.

Yeah.

People like Wayne Allen Root.

Posted by: The IRS at May 05, 2015 12:00 PM (nVPc4)

19 "Somebody should go to jail"

And the prosecutor works for the Federal Department of Justice, who works for the President of the United States who told the IRS to audit his enemies.

Posted by: Hondo Phrestrae at May 05, 2015 12:01 PM (h/jFA)

20 One should know better than to dissent against The Won.

He deserved it.

Posted by: comrade willow at May 05, 2015 12:02 PM (nqBYe)

21
obama's IRS..

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 05, 2015 12:02 PM (Ng9V+)

22 Jail? This kind of abuse of power should be a capital offense. Time to abolish the IRS.

Posted by: Ummberto Echo at May 05, 2015 12:02 PM (honA8)

23 ace, your quotes make it ... difficult to read your post.

I'm assuming when it switches to the first person "I" and "me" that those are quotes from the original source?

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:02 PM (AkOaV)

24 I wonder what the IRS does to congresscritters that talk of cutting their budget...

Posted by: Phil at May 05, 2015 12:02 PM (39FGM)

25 One should Know better than to be anything other than a card carrying member of the socialist-communist or dem party.

Posted by: comrade willow at May 05, 2015 12:02 PM (nqBYe)

26 Nobody believes it. They know the truth, they just don't care. Power is everything to these people.


Posted by: pep at May 05, 2015 11:57 AM (GMG6W)
Ignorance Is Strength, and by the way, we've always been at war with Eurasia.
/1984

Posted by: pookysgirl at May 05, 2015 12:02 PM (dCUzJ)

27 Let me guess, the IRS is going to say they were just "Rooting" around for some money.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at May 05, 2015 12:03 PM (cCxiu)

28 Everything in our society, government, judicial, etc. can only work IF the individuals follow the rules, the law, etc.
IF a government agency doesn't follow the law, and the agency overseeing it doesn't then follow the subsequent law, and the judicial branch doesn't follow the law, and the enforcement branch doesn't follow the law, we have a lawless society, with each person on their own to defend themselves and at the mercy of those who have more power than they.

We find ourselves in pretty much of a fragile, lawless society right now. It's being held together somewhat by the good will of the majority of people , willing to put up with the obscene lawlessness of a minority in order to not have a full scale insurrection occur.

The lawlessness was out of sight for a while, but came above ground with not just the election of Barack Obama, but especially when Eric Holder began instructing state AD's etc. that they did not need to enforce laws they did not agree with. When he refused to enforce federal laws he didn't agree with,such as federal immigration, marijuana laws, and the defense of marriage act.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 05, 2015 12:03 PM (EMXR7)

29 I, for one, welcome out new IRS overlords

Posted by: MikeH at May 05, 2015 12:03 PM (iUNhO)

30 2
Jail?


Pfffft. For what? There is nothing in our criminal code
that makes it illegal to target racists and bigots and h8ers. Your
government was merely doing its civic duty in erasing these
conservatives from polite society.

Or society at all, really.
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This isn't just the view of the leaders of the Democrat party, this is the view of the entire of the Democrat party.

There is no compromise with them: They want you DEAD.

Many won't have the balls to pull the trigger themselves but they'll sure as fuck sign the order, look the other way when the time comes.

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 05, 2015 12:03 PM (ZvKdv)

31 I think the scariest part of all of this is that I have no idea who this guy is.

Posted by: Lauren at May 05, 2015 12:03 PM (MYCIw)

32
..just got a craving for maple walnut ice cream

weird because I hate walnuts

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 05, 2015 12:03 PM (Ng9V+)

33 There's nothing to say, because accountability is dead.

Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at May 05, 2015 12:03 PM (oVJmc)

34 left out on my laundry list. Progressive ideals is where one must always commit ones money, time, children, personal power .

Posted by: comrade willow at May 05, 2015 12:04 PM (nqBYe)

35 And the prosecutor works for the Federal Department of Justice, who works for the President of the United States who told the IRS to audit his enemies.

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Exactly right. We demand something that cannot be under our Constitutional structure. The executive branch rests with one person.

Posted by: SH at May 05, 2015 12:04 PM (gmeXX)

36 I think the scariest part of all of this is that I have no idea who this guy is.

Posted by: Lauren at May 05, 2015 12:03 PM (MYCIw)

not necessary, The Govt knows, and that's what counts.

Posted by: comrade willow at May 05, 2015 12:04 PM (nqBYe)

37 Also, I was talking to my liberal FIL about the IRS scandal recently. He'd basically forgotten about it, but I said "this will probably end up being the biggest, longest lasting scandal of the Obama presidency. Regular, every day conservatives who politically disagree with the party in power were audited, had their lives put on hold, are out thousands of dollars... all because of who they voted for. That really changes the way conservatives look at the fed government and the bureaucracies and puts a major chill on free speech."

He thought it was no big though, because he's sure bush probably did the same thing.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:05 PM (AkOaV)

38 Many won't have the balls to pull the trigger themselves but they'll sure as fuck sign the order, look the other way when the time comes.

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 05, 2015 12:03 PM (ZvKdv)


Yup.

And the military and police? They'll carry out those orders without hesitation.

Just like they've been doing in Wisconsin.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at May 05, 2015 12:05 PM (fwARV)

39 2011?

That was like 4 years ago, dude.

Posted by: Roy at May 05, 2015 12:05 PM (VndSC)

40 People need to go to jail

but in absence of same, there are plenty of otherwise unoccupied lampposts.

Posted by: This is a Faux News Alert at May 05, 2015 12:05 PM (hKyl0)

41
The administration considers Mr. Root's charges to be superfluous, disingenuous, and typical slant from the right wing conspiracy.

Posted by: Josh Earnest, BHO Buttboy at May 05, 2015 12:05 PM (P330y)

42 what more did you guys want!?

she left her position didn't she?

look her pension amt really doesn't matter i'm sure she lives with the Guilt every day of her life.

or not.

Posted by: comrade willow at May 05, 2015 12:06 PM (nqBYe)

43 Ace, can we assume you are quoting beginning with "By law..."? It might make reading easier if you made that clearer.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at May 05, 2015 12:06 PM (RD7QR)

44 This will continue because the conservative Right is too weak to make them stop.

Sure, there were hearings, and Lois Lerner had to slink off into a paid retirement. Poor whimpering little lady.
No one will go to jail. Obama should be impeached, tried and convicted on the floor of the Senate, but nothing will happen.

Individually, I am not calling people weaklings. But as a movement, a political force, we are weak. We are getting weaker. Our supposedly natural allies in what is called the Republican Party will betray us. They're in on the fix, too. We have no political power to speak of.
Example:
Marco Rubio? Fuck that guy.

There is no reason to quit fighting, and trying to stand up for what's right, but we're going to lose.
All this brouhaha over Hillary! only means that the Media is clearing their throat to fully endorse her in 2016.

Posted by: Bossy Conservative....lost in America at May 05, 2015 12:06 PM (RFeQD)

45 He thought it was no big though, because he's sure bush probably did the same thing.

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Maybe that is good. Both sides distrust the other side and assume that the agencies headed by the other side are up to no good.

Probably a good healthy skepticism to have.

Posted by: SH at May 05, 2015 12:06 PM (gmeXX)

46 "The Govt knows, and that's what counts."

That's what makes it so scary. Who's this guy, some random columnist or something from Nevada? And yet the government went after him. We're not exactly talking Matt Drudge here. I believe that was very intentional. Make the small guys disappear. No one even knows they're gone.

Posted by: Lauren at May 05, 2015 12:07 PM (MYCIw)

47 I don't know if I'm a fan of Ace channeling Wayne Root in this article instead of the usual quotes and commentary. What do y'all think?

Posted by: Draki at May 05, 2015 12:07 PM (0eidE)

48 why would a government agency disobey the law for 13 months?

Because it's a new agency that has only existed for 13 months?

Posted by: SpongeBobSaget at May 05, 2015 12:07 PM (zauWW)

49 13
My files have been turned over to U.S. Senate investigators. I stand ready and eager to testify.



Hate to say it, but Senate GOP leadership wants the guy out of the picture almost as much as the Dems do.
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When this first broke over a year ago, I said: This leads up to and includes John Boehner. And many of you pooh-poohed that.

He knew. He fucking knew. And he saw a chance to knife conservatives in the back without getting his hands dirty.
That's the dirty version.

He fucking knew because there was at least one Congressmen who was told about this and passed the word on to him.
That's the cleaner version.

Either way: He fucking knew.

There is no other reason why not one fucking thing has been done about this. John Fucking Boehner wants it to die and is doing everything he can behind the scenes to make sure it dies.
That is why he discarded the Hastert Rule--he needs the Dems and they know it.

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 05, 2015 12:08 PM (ZvKdv)

50 @22 - I'm with you on that.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 05, 2015 12:08 PM (vg8iE)

51 my Progressive colleagues and friends believe you should be dragged from your home and jailed so you'll stop interfering with their President.
not joking

Posted by: Mr Wizard at May 05, 2015 12:08 PM (eOpVe)

52 Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at May 05, 2015 12:05 PM (fwARV)


Yep. every time a 2a issue comes to the front people say, "well look. My cousins sisters husband is in the marines, and I know *he* would never obey unconstitutional orders to confiscate peoples' guns! SO obviously the military and police would be on we the peoples side."


Yeah, right, amigos. I see zero evidence of that ever having been the case. Ever.

Not that the guys involved are bad guys, but these things have a way of snowballing before the people involved really know whats going on. And by the time they figure it out and think about it too much, it would be too late to do anything.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:08 PM (AkOaV)

53 Okay, I should have read the comments before piling on.

And yes, this is just another reason for a flat tax or national sales tax. The tax code is designed to make criminals of all of us and does that job admirably.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at May 05, 2015 12:08 PM (RD7QR)

54 I am root!

Posted by: Not Really Ace So Don't Ban Me at May 05, 2015 12:09 PM (MYCIw)

55 People need to go to jail.


Posted by: Ace at 11:50 AM


**snorts**

People need to be [redacted to prevent banning] for this, Ace.

And I'm as likely to get my wish as you yours.

Repeat after me: Nothing. Is. Going. To. Happen.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 05, 2015 12:09 PM (zF6Iw)

56 I would like to know ,
1. why our poltiical party besides a handful allowed Lois to walk?

2. Why the agencies sent to roust other Others like Walker supporters have not been dragged into hearings?

3, why true the vote and others were harrassed by osha, irs, and other agencies but NO ONE has gone to jail?

4. Where is justice?

no justice? No ....

Posted by: comrade willow at May 05, 2015 12:09 PM (nqBYe)

57 Of course, If I delayed paying my taxes for 14 months - I'd be meeting my new husband in prison WAY before that

Posted by: MikeH at May 05, 2015 12:10 PM (iUNhO)

58 #51 Agreed, they don't really care. They really support the use of government to suppress their political enemies. The good news is that they're wussy pacifists at heart.

Posted by: Draki at May 05, 2015 12:10 PM (0eidE)

59 I was audited a little over two years ago now. Not a fun experience, I'm here to tell you, and I have no proof that I was targeted because my name showed up on GOP and Tea Party donor lists, but I can't help but harbor some suspicion that my beliefs played a role.

Let me put it this way: if my name doesn't show up on the Enemies List of a government petty, paranoidand authoritarian enough to keep an Enemies List, then I'm doing it wrong.

Posted by: troyriser at May 05, 2015 12:10 PM (XHR9b)

60

Wayne Allen Root is the NRA guy?

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 05, 2015 12:10 PM (Ng9V+)

61 This will end badly. Except for rope vendors.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 05, 2015 12:10 PM (Jh0nR)

62 But can He prove it? Are these just "coincidences" like Hillary's "charity"?It will certainly be spun that way if its mentioned at all...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at May 05, 2015 12:10 PM (Bn6aD)

63 >>Maybe that is good. Both sides distrust the other side and assume that the agencies headed by the other side are up to no good.

It's not good. The bureaucracy is permanent as long as government isn't downsized. Whether anyone here believes that any individual Republican wants that the left believes every single one does and is therefore any enemy while Dems love big government so they are a natural ally.

The bureaucracy is predisposed to be against Republicans and doesn't need any direct orders from above. Nature of the beast.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 05, 2015 12:10 PM (g1DWB)

64 #53 No no! No flat tax. I thought we agreed to screw the rich since they were supporting illegal immigration.

Posted by: Draki at May 05, 2015 12:10 PM (0eidE)

65 Posted by: RoyalOil at May 05, 2015 12:08 PM (ZvKdv)

Well, it recently came out that John "Maverick" McCain was one of the Senators pushing the IRS to "investigate" the 501c3's that were sending money to TEA Party types (and were challenging McCain and the rest of the GOPe).

Email trail and everything.

So, uh, yeah, pretty clear that the GOPe is working with the Dems and the bureaucrats to shut those stupid serfs from the hinterlands up.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:10 PM (AkOaV)

66 OT. This may have been posted earlier, I'm just catching up.

Apparently Bob Beckel has entered rehab for addiction to pain killers he was taking for his back pain after recent back surgery.

It was becoming obvious the Beckel was having some kind of issues. In the last few months of his hosting on The Five, he slurred his words and seemed really out of the conversations.

Wish him well, and will wonder if he will now get to wear the same scarlet letter from the left that they pin on Limbaugh for his addiction to Oxycontin for back pain.

In other words, will Beckel be called a drug addict sleazeball , among other things by the left blogs.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 05, 2015 12:10 PM (EMXR7)

67 I'm ' still not a crook.

Posted by: Zombie Richard Nixon at May 05, 2015 12:11 PM (GGOeJ)

68 The Pentagon moved NORAD out of Cheyenne Mountain 10 yrs ago because Russia was no longer a threat. Who's the threat now that they are moving back AND upgrading?

Pentagon to spend 700 mil to shield Cheyenne Mountain Complex and make it less vulnerable to a massive electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack.


http://tinyurl.com/p2q8wls

Posted by: wrg500 at May 05, 2015 12:11 PM (S+el1)

69 Willow:

1) Because they're not "our" political party. They hate us as much, if not more, than the dems do.

2) See #1

3) See #1

4) See #1

Posted by: Lauren at May 05, 2015 12:11 PM (MYCIw)

70 Wayne Allyn Root. Not exactly a nobody - he was the Libertarian VP candidate in 2008.

Posted by: The IRS at May 05, 2015 12:11 PM (nVPc4)

71 my Progressive colleagues and friends believe you should be dragged from your home and jailed so you'll stop interfering with their President.
not joking

Posted by: Mr Wizard at May 05, 2015 12:08 PM (eOpVe)


I know more than a few people who want employment status made contingent upon your voting record. I know even more who want door-to-door weapons confiscation. An even larger group truly believes that political views with which they disagree constitute hate and are therefore bannable and punishable.

Those people are in charge.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at May 05, 2015 12:11 PM (fwARV)

72 13 and 49

I have stated many times, there will never be anything done about this because the leadership of both parties were involved.... Middle East foreign policy too...Benghazi...

Posted by: Mr Wizard at May 05, 2015 12:12 PM (eOpVe)

73
Wayne Allen Root: I Was Politically Targeted for an IRS Audit and I Can Prove It


What difference, at this point, does it make?1/1/1!!?1?!/1?!/1/?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 05, 2015 12:12 PM (HSmrB)

74 Make the small guys disappear. No one even knows they're gone.
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Que up "What I saw at the coup."


Fuuuuuuuck.

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 05, 2015 12:12 PM (ZvKdv)

75
was he part of the Allen Parsons Project??

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 05, 2015 12:12 PM (Ng9V+)

76 Just another black on white crime. Nothing to see here.

Move along, citizen. Your audit notice is in the mail coming from inside the White House.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at May 05, 2015 12:12 PM (IPdQb)

77 He thought it was no big though, because he's sure bush probably did the same thing.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:05 PM (AkOaV)


I would have said, "put up or shut up, asshole."

But that's me.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 05, 2015 12:12 PM (zF6Iw)

78 We're not exactly talking Matt Drudge here. I believe that was very intentional. Make the small guys disappear. No one even knows they're gone.
Posted by: Lauren at May 05, 2015 12:07 PM (MYCIw)

to instill fear. This is what agitators and their supporters do.

haven't we seen this throughout every aspect of govt- courts-society in the last 6 + years?

they are the brown shirts but spouting 'hope and change speech

Posted by: comrade willow at May 05, 2015 12:13 PM (nqBYe)

79 People need to go to jail

That's a nice sentiment.

Are *any* of the gop presidential hopefuls running on pound-you-in-the-ass prison time for IRS conspirators?

Posted by: Methos at May 05, 2015 12:13 PM (ZbV+0)

80 "People need to go to jail."

Not good enough any more. It won't stop the abuses. It won't even slow them down. Every leftists agitator who goes to jail for waging lawfare against us is already on Obama's out-the-door pardon list.

It will take a few high level elected officials swinging from trees and lampposts before our "betters" fear using government against us again.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at May 05, 2015 12:13 PM (tuPiK)

81 Just another straw on the camel's back.

The next two years of not having an opposition party to keep TFG in check will devolve, especially if the harassment continues. There is already open warfare, fortunately in Democrat cities but it will spread outward until martial law is declared.

Then it gets ugly.

Posted by: Gmac- Pulling in feelers in preperation... at May 05, 2015 12:14 PM (4CRfK)

82 His middle name is spelled Allyn.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot Jr. at May 05, 2015 12:14 PM (W5DcG)

83
I know even more who want door-to-door weapons confiscation.



as long as they're not the ones who have to go door to door confiscating them.

Posted by: kj at May 05, 2015 12:14 PM (lKyWE)

84 It's not good. The bureaucracy is permanent as long as government isn't downsized.

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Yes, so if both sides distrust the bureaucracy, then maybe both sides will vote to limit it.

Wishful thinking - yes.

Posted by: SH at May 05, 2015 12:14 PM (gmeXX)

85 my Progressive colleagues and friends believe you should be dragged from your home and jailed so you'll stop interfering with their President. not joking

Posted by: Mr Wizard at May 05, 2015 12:08 PM (eOpVe)


Serious question, then - why are they your friends?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 05, 2015 12:14 PM (zF6Iw)

86 "People need to go to jail."


And when they get out they become lobbyists.

Posted by: wrg500 at May 05, 2015 12:14 PM (S+el1)

87 If Pookette comes to me with cookie crumbs all over her mouth and the package of cookies is open and empty, am I supposed to just write it off as a coincidence? Posted by: pookysgirl at May 05, 2015 11:55 AM (dCUzJ)

YES!!!

Posted by: Pookette...these are not the cookies you are looking for (attempting jedi mind trick) at May 05, 2015 12:14 PM (yRwC8)

88 1. It never happened.

2. It happened, but everybody does it (or, simply, "BOOOSH!").

3. Dude, that was like, 2 months ago.

Posted by: Bob's House of Flannel Shirts and Wallet Chains at May 05, 2015 12:15 PM (vgIRn)

89 You know, conservative punditry and commentating is basically the same as yelling "Fire" in a crowded theater.


Posted by: SJW Handbook at May 05, 2015 12:15 PM (NUCTk)

90 Serious question, then - why are they your friends?

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Very good question.

Posted by: SH at May 05, 2015 12:15 PM (gmeXX)

91 #79 I don't know of any. Obviously not Huckabee, Jeb, or Rubio.

Posted by: Draki at May 05, 2015 12:15 PM (0eidE)

92 Who's the threat now that they are moving back AND upgrading?




Posted by: wrg500 at May 05, 2015 12:11 PM (S+el1)


Essentially anyone with a nuke.

Posted by: Country Singer at May 05, 2015 12:15 PM (8hctH)

93 Posted by: SH at May 05, 2015 12:06 PM (gmeXX)

Well...

No, because it's not "the government" they distrust, it's evil racist bigoted 1%er republican politicians AND voters.

And they're FINE with Obama and the IRS going after conservatives. Because fuck those backwards hicks.

And the bureaucracies (a product of progressives who got rid of the system wherein all fed employees served at the pleasure of the president) are on auto pilot, no matter who is president, and are progressing towards the glorious socialist revolution no matter who is in control.

So in other words, even if Bush had Darth Cheney call over to the IRS and say, "Hey, Lois, do some investigating in to these 'progressive' groups, will ya?" it never would have happened. The IRS would have refused and the Dems would have tried to impeach. Thats what Nixon ran in to.

With Obama -- he doesn't even need to say anything. They know what to do without him getting directly involved. And they will continue to do that no matter who is president, R or D.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:16 PM (AkOaV)

94 Also, BOOOOSH .

Posted by: SJW Handbook at May 05, 2015 12:16 PM (NUCTk)

95 85...Sun Tzu

Posted by: Mr Wizard at May 05, 2015 12:16 PM (eOpVe)

96 Would Walker want to send these guys to jail or just collect their skulls?

Posted by: Draki at May 05, 2015 12:16 PM (0eidE)

97 Bob Beckel seems like a cool enough guy to have as a neighbor or uncle, but I always hated him on The Five. Everyone on that show has an agenda and they all ride their favorite hobby horses, but Beckel alone always measured his words, and tailored his thoughts to match that day's official Democrat Party talking points.
He's a shill and a hack and nothing more.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 05, 2015 12:16 PM (GGOeJ)

98 He thought it was no big though, because he's sure bush probably did the same thing.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:05 PM (AkOaV)


Right, and the compliant MSM just hushed it up, as did the unionized workforce at the IRS.
Don't have the link, but I've read that IRS political contributions ran something like 90+% for Democrats.


Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 05, 2015 12:17 PM (oKE6c)

99 Root was the VP candidate for the Libertarian ticket in 2008. He also has been a constant critic of Obama - said he switched back to Republican in 2012 to get O defeated so I'm sure that didn't help his cred among the Libertarians. He's been a Fox News contributor for most of O's terms.

He constantly tells a story that he and O were attending Columbia at the exact same time(he didn't know who O was) and he thinks O was among the cheering crowds on campus when it was thought that Reagan was assassinated. You can bet that also caught a flag from our IRS overlords.

Posted by: arcadehero at May 05, 2015 12:17 PM (27BfC)

100 Posted by: SH at May 05, 2015 12:14 PM (gmeXX)

No, no progressives love the bureaucracy, they just hate republicans.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:17 PM (AkOaV)

101 my Progressive colleagues and friends believe you should be dragged from your home and jailed so you'll stop interfering with their President.
not joking

Posted by: Mr Wizard at May 05, 2015 12:08 PM (eOpVe)

SPOILER ALERT!!!
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They ain't your friends.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 05, 2015 12:17 PM (2Ojst)

102 hey remember when Schumer, and other Dem Senators opening asked IRS to 'investigate' conservative groups?
Yet there they all are still in power?

Posted by: comrade willow at May 05, 2015 12:17 PM (nqBYe)

103 Instapundit has a link to someone's blog that has been DAILY reporting on the IRS thing.

It gets a link like "IRS Scandal Day 720."

Once it went over 200 it was clear that not. One. Fucking. Thing. Would. Happen.

Ever.

The Left doesn't think that these guns will be brought to bear on them - they know how it works. The Bureaucracy is always Leftist.


Their question is why are there people on the Right who still haven't been audited.

Posted by: blaster at May 05, 2015 12:17 PM (nVPc4)

104 64 #53 No no! No flat tax. I thought we agreed to screw the rich since they were supporting illegal immigration.
Posted by: Draki at May 05, 2015 12:10 PM (0eidE)

Fine. National sales tax. Eliminate IRS and form a small enforcement unit. Only exception is no tax on transactions below a certain dollar limit.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at May 05, 2015 12:18 PM (RD7QR)

105 #97 Agreed Beckel was just a mouth piece. On a side note, I didn't like the Five's initial reaction to Baltimore. I thought they could have been more even handed while making fun of their racist mayor.

Posted by: Draki at May 05, 2015 12:18 PM (0eidE)

106 >>Yes, so if both sides distrust the bureaucracy, then maybe both sides will vote to limit it.

>>Wishful thinking - yes.

It is wishful thinking because they do not distrust Democrats. Democrats are the party of big government.

Lerner's husband is also a tax lawyer at a big firm that supported Obama and held registration drives for volunteers. One of the partners at the firm is now the ambassador to Singapore.

It's a myth that the bureaucracy is apolitical. They are Democrats by and large.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 05, 2015 12:19 PM (g1DWB)

107 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 05, 2015 12:12 PM (zF6Iw)

Well, I am dating / common law married (ish. lived together for 6? years now) his daughter, so...

have to keep it civil

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:19 PM (AkOaV)

108 He's a shill and a hack and nothing more.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 05, 2015 12:16 PM (GGOeJ)

Which is why The Five had him as a permenant host . He helped the "fair and balanced" meme, and provided an easy target for Gutfeld.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 05, 2015 12:19 PM (EMXR7)

109 Maybe that is good. Both sides distrust the other side and assume that the agencies headed by the other side are up to no good.

Probably a good healthy skepticism to have.



Not when the side in power uses it for justification.

Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 05, 2015 12:20 PM (YlaKl)

110 I had no mens rea...and no mens' parts.

Posted by: Ron Wyden at May 05, 2015 12:20 PM (GgxVX)

111 Someone will get a bonus for this. Not jail.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 05, 2015 12:20 PM (fWAjv)

112 He could have protected himself by not filing, after all he has a right to not incriminate himself, a right found in the fifth amendment. Duh.

Posted by: Lois "Fast" Lerner at May 05, 2015 12:20 PM (yQVAQ)

113 104
64 #53 No no! No flat tax. I thought we agreed to screw the rich since they were supporting illegal immigration.

Posted by: Draki at May 05, 2015 12:10 PM (0eidE)



Fine. National sales tax. Eliminate IRS and form a small enforcement
unit. Only exception is no tax on transactions below a certain dollar
limit.



Jeopardize my paycheck?

Surely you jest , wingnut.

Posted by: Your GOP on truth serum at May 05, 2015 12:20 PM (NUCTk)

114 Posted by: blaster at May 05, 2015 12:17 PM (nVPc4)

I don't know. I'm waiting for it.

But I've been pretty good at keeping my name off lists.

So... hopefully I'm falling through the cracks.

People who blog / comment under their real names?

Heh, good luck guys.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:20 PM (AkOaV)

115 Burn it down.

Posted by: HoboJerk, TPHSATAR at May 05, 2015 12:20 PM (FA3Z7)

116 Remember when I pointed out that Fast and Furious could only be a government conspiracy, that there was no chance it could be any thing else, and everyone was all "you're wearing a tin foil hat - the government couldn't be that corrupt - that would mean that the entire DOJ had to be in on it"?

Yeah, good times, good times.

Posted by: An Observation at May 05, 2015 12:21 PM (j6ras)

117 Obama and his stooges are laughing right now, knowing nothing will be done about it.

The first thing the GOP president should after taking oath in January 2017 is publicizing all of Obama's skeletons. All. Of. Them.

Screw trying to get jail time - that won't happen and it will just make him a martyr.

But by just putting the stuff out in the open, you make the narcissist look bad. You tarnish his reputation - which is the only thing that matters to him.

Posted by: MacGruber at May 05, 2015 12:21 PM (sWgE+)

118 anyhoo, when they IRS started asking for 'lists' from every conservative group. and the content of prayers
we lost .

Posted by: comrade willow at May 05, 2015 12:21 PM (nqBYe)

119 Simple fix folks - have the States collect and deliver Federal Taxes. If you don't live in NY, IL or CA, then you will be treated like a valued citizen. If not, then suck they big bankrupt one your fellow citizens have strapped you to.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 05, 2015 12:21 PM (oDCMR)

120 Obama would be pretty popular in jail.

Posted by: Reggie Love at May 05, 2015 12:22 PM (1RMKx)

121 Root caused this problem himself, by setting an IRS mousetrap.

Posted by: NBC at May 05, 2015 12:22 PM (FCsIb)

122 This is a HUGE scandal. Major betrayal of public trust.

People should go to jail and the entire agency should be, at a minimum, reorganized.

And we might want to collect all their arms and ammunition, too.

Posted by: Moderate Salami at May 05, 2015 12:23 PM (/Ho8c)

123 Fine. National sales tax. Eliminate IRS and form a
small enforcement unit. Only exception is no tax on transactions below a
certain dollar limit.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at May 05, 2015 12:18 PM (RD7QR)


"Get your new 2016 Nanomobile Fractions now! Only $4.95 per unit! Tax free! Buy 1000 units, and build a complete Nanomobile."

Posted by: Loopholes R Us at May 05, 2015 12:23 PM (Jh0nR)

124 64 #53 No no! No flat tax. I thought we agreed to screw the rich since they were supporting illegal immigration.
Posted by: Draki at May 05, 2015 12:10 PM

As part of the 1%, kindly go f*ck yourself, sideways, with a football. The only illegals I want on this side of the border are heads on stakes as a warning to the rest.

My nanny, groundskeeper, and house cleaner are all citizens who earn well above minimum wage, f*ck you very much.

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at May 05, 2015 12:23 PM (IPdQb)

125 Posted by: wrg500 at May 05, 2015 12:11 PM (S+el1)

They are moving back to Cheyenne mountain because it was stupid to move out in the first place.

It's hardened against a nuclear attack or an EMP.

And they're upgrading equipment, because, well, their shits probably obsolete at this point.

Wouldn't read too much in to it. As to who the threat is? Anyone with a high yield nuke. Which thanks to our buddy Obama will probably include a few more Muslim nations within the next few years.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:23 PM (AkOaV)

126 People who blog / comment under their real names?

Heh, good luck guys.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:20 PM (AkOaV)

If you're paranoid enough to believe the government is tracking and punishing conservatives for simply being conservative (and we know they are, so 'paranoid' is a poor choice of words, but whatever), then you're paranoid enough to realize that a screen name doesn't give you any anonymity at all.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at May 05, 2015 12:24 PM (fwARV)

127 OT:

Saw 3 Baltimore Orioles in NW Indiana this AM. Going out to check for damages... and lunch.

Posted by: DaveA at May 05, 2015 12:25 PM (DL2i+)

128 #117 That's a good recommendation to publicize it all. I'd like for it to be entered into court of congressional records for historians to review too.

Posted by: Draki at May 05, 2015 12:25 PM (0eidE)

129
Nothing will happen unless a couple of million of us march on D.C. And that will never happen.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 05, 2015 12:25 PM (Ng9V+)

130 then you're paranoid enough to realize that a screen name doesn't give you any anonymity at all.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards


Yep.

Posted by: Moderate Salami at May 05, 2015 12:25 PM (/Ho8c)

131 Ted Cruz proposed Fair Tax in his speech announcing he was running. He wants to abolish the IRS.

I think he has stopped short of jailing them,. though.

Posted by: blaster at May 05, 2015 12:25 PM (nVPc4)

132 As an IRS agent observed "Of course we're against conservatives - they want to get rid of our agency and put us out of work."


So no, it is not a symmetrical case; as an institution the IRS will naturally target conservatives.

Posted by: An Observation at May 05, 2015 12:25 PM (j6ras)

133 Nothing will happen unless a couple of million of us march on D.C. And that will never happen.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 05, 2015 12:25 PM (Ng9V+)


Because we've all got friggin jobs.

Of course, when the days comes that the marching occurs, we won't be asking for policy changes.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at May 05, 2015 12:26 PM (fwARV)

134 Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:23 PM (AkOaV)

Yea the article specifically mentions NK and Iran as concerns.

Posted by: wrg500 at May 05, 2015 12:26 PM (S+el1)

135 Special agents at the IRS accidentally shot their firearms 11 times between 2009 and 2011, and at least three of the cases 'may have resulted in property damage or personal injury.'


More please.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 05, 2015 12:26 PM (fWAjv)

136 'Wayne Allen Root' sounds like a serial killer's name.

Posted by: Ed Gein at May 05, 2015 12:26 PM (Ks4nX)

137 123 Fine. National sales tax. Eliminate IRS and form a
small enforcement unit. Only exception is no tax on transactions below a
certain dollar limit.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at May 05, 2015 12:18 PM (RD7QR)


"Get your new 2016 Nanomobile Fractions now! Only $4.95 per unit! Tax free! Buy 1000 units, and build a complete Nanomobile."
Posted by: Loopholes R Us at May 05, 2015 12:23 PM (Jh0nR)

Works for me! Tax evasion is the sport of freedom!

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at May 05, 2015 12:26 PM (RD7QR)

138
Wait..., is this news?

Posted by: Joe The Plumber at May 05, 2015 12:27 PM (eeTCA)

139 I love the Roots!

Posted by: Jimmeh Failin at May 05, 2015 12:27 PM (nCKKS)

140 #124 Sorry to have upset you so much. I am upset with your fellow rich compatriots like Zuckerberg, Sandberg, and Cook who love to bring in illegals. The guys bank rolling Jeb shouldn't be supported either.

Posted by: Draki at May 05, 2015 12:27 PM (0eidE)

141
Saw 3 Baltimore Orioles in NW Indiana this AM. Going out to check for damages... and lunch.

What are they doing there? They have a game tonight.

Posted by: wrg500 at May 05, 2015 12:27 PM (S+el1)

142 Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at May 05, 2015 12:24 PM (fwARV)

While I'm sure the NSA is vacuuming up all of our content, I doubt anyone is watching (for example) aoshq very closely.

I mean, its easy to get the information, but sorting through it and analyzing it takes a lot of man hours.

So I'm less worried about that then, say, a "rogue" IRS agent / twitter activist who just happens to see my name.

Which is where I think most of these audits probably come from. Political activists who happen to work for the bureaucracy who get peoples information from publicly available sources.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:27 PM (AkOaV)

143
This is but one example of how the IRS is being used as a political tool. We cannot allow a government agency the ability to do a warrantless search of our financial records, nor can we allow a government agency to lock down our financial accounts without a warrant, but that is exactly what is going on at this moment.

Any solution to this problem will have to include discontinuing an income tax, where the government has an interest in seeing your income and expenses. A consumption tax is the only answer I can see, whereby everyone's personal financial data is excluded from government oversight.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 05, 2015 12:27 PM (eGmvn)

144 Suck it comrades.

Posted by: Lois Lerner, laughingly headed for the bank at May 05, 2015 12:28 PM (eeTCA)

145 As part of the 1%, kindly go f*ck yourself, sideways, with a football. The only illegals I want on this side of the border are heads on stakes as a warning to the rest.

My nanny, groundskeeper, and house cleaner are all citizens who earn well above minimum wage, f*ck you very much.
Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at May 05, 2015 12:23 PM (IPdQb)

Come on Crank, you can't keep holding this in.

Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at May 05, 2015 12:28 PM (RD7QR)

146 Nothing will happen unless a couple of million of us march on D.C. And that will never happen.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 05, 2015 12:25 PM (Ng9V+)

If you're saying our side can't get angry enough and mount a decent protest, I'd say you're dead wrong.

But, any large scale protest like that from the right would not meet with the same respect that left-wing marches get. We would be beat by unionized police, very likely shot by more than a few of them, and the whole thing would be characterized as a "violent DC coup attempt". The media would, of course, be 100% compliant. Even good ole Fox news will get on board.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at May 05, 2015 12:29 PM (tuPiK)

147 Posted by: wrg500 at May 05, 2015 12:26 PM (S+el1)

Plus Russian Bears have been flirting with our coasts for the last few years and fucking with their European neighbors.

We have no idea if they're carrying nukes. Accidental or purposeful launch somewhere off the west coast... and yeah, I'd want to be in a hardened bunker if I were NORAD.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:29 PM (AkOaV)

148 "Nothing will happen unless a couple of million of us march on D.C. And that will never happen.
"

It's adorable you think that would matter even a tiny tiny bit.

Posted by: Yearly March For Life at May 05, 2015 12:30 PM (MYCIw)

149 Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 05, 2015 12:27 PM (eGmvn)

But, but Obamacare! Who's going to enforce the penalties?

Posted by: wrg500 at May 05, 2015 12:30 PM (S+el1)

150 The next two years of not having an opposition party to keep TFG in check will devolve, especially if the harassment continues. There is already open warfare, fortunately in Democrat cities but it will spread outward until martial law is declared.Then it gets ugly.
Posted by: Gmac- Pulling in feelers in preperation... at May 05, 2015 12:14 PM (4CRfK)


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Once again. I'm glad I live in Oklahoma. I know that we are targets also, but we're a hard-shell target. We'll be one of the last to be standing.

Posted by: Soona at May 05, 2015 12:30 PM (/HX7u)

151 Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at May 05, 2015 12:23 PM

Nice!

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 05, 2015 12:30 PM (60Vyp)

152 I think you have to ask yourself, why isn't anyone in jail? The answer to that is even more revealing.

We have a permanent political class in Washington vested in themselves. They simply use the voters to get elected, create divisions to keep the music playing and ultimately (one way or another) get people to dance.

Neither party really gives a fig about this because they are all mostly corrupt in their own way. They don't address injustice, otherwise it would be turned back on them in some manner.

There is nothing more despicable then lending your government to a bunch of people who then turn and use it against you.

In the old days, that's what the hanging trees were for. Before that the Romans used sacks and the Tiber.

Posted by: Marcus t at May 05, 2015 12:31 PM (GGCsk)

153 Posted by: Rusty Nail at May 05, 2015 12:29 PM (tuPiK)

And the media would say "well, it looks to be about 20,000 angry white men who are upset that a black man is president." then pan to some leftist plant holding a sign that says "OBAMA -- GO BACK TO KENYA YOU MUSLIM" (with appropriate misspellings).

Even if there were a million people marching, that would be the meme. Handful of angry white men, possibly neo confederate, probably loosely related to the KKK and other "hate groups" (as defined by the non partisan non ideological southern poverty law center) who hate having a black president.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:31 PM (AkOaV)

154 Hey, we could march on Lois Lerner's McMansion and scare the shit out of the old thuggish bat.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 05, 2015 12:31 PM (oDCMR)

155 31 I think the scariest part of all of this is that I have no idea who this guy is.

Posted by: Lauren at May 05, 2015 12:03 PM (MYCIw)

Wayne Allen Root went to Columbia with Obama and is a former Libertarian party presidential candidate. He quickly saw through our friend by whom we have nothing to fear.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 05, 2015 12:32 PM (nCKKS)

156 Funny, I had the same thing happen to me when Clinton's IRS started up.


Amazingly a Black IRS agent shows up demanding all my records for ten years.


Thank God my accountant was a former IRS agent and knew how to handle her. She wasted two months, didn't find any of the real stuff, settled for tax on TE expenses without receipts.


Trust me when you are in politics, the democrats will come after you.



Posted by: Nip Sip at May 05, 2015 12:32 PM (0FSuD)

157 104, don't forget, the Baltimore story broke just about the moment the riots started and Shep Smith practically pre-empted The Five and shit all over the proceedings. Bolling and Gutfeld let him have it--or tried to. No doubt a producer was whispering in their ear pieces telling them to "cool it." For whatever reason, FOX views Shep as their golden boy....

Posted by: JoeF. at May 05, 2015 12:32 PM (GGOeJ)

158 Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:29 PM (AkOaV)

Well according to our betters we are safer that we have ever been. *eye roll* It's almost like you don't believe a word this administration says. /s

Posted by: wrg500 at May 05, 2015 12:32 PM (S+el1)

159 Even good ole Fox news will get on board.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at May 05, 2015 12:29 PM (tuPiK)

Will there be cannibalism???

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 05, 2015 12:33 PM (fWAjv)

160 Special agents at the IRS accidentally shot their firearms 11 times between 2009 and 2011, and at least three of the cases 'may have resulted in property damage or
personal injury.'



Hard drives hardest hit.

Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 05, 2015 12:34 PM (YlaKl)

161 Libs and their are enablers are sociopaths who are able to rationalize any dishonorable, hypocritical action. Dealing with them directly is like naively thinking that you can have any kind of sane dealings with the Jon Lovitz character. You can't. We need to get them out of power and never be conned into letting them back in.

Posted by: Sunni LeBeouf at May 05, 2015 12:34 PM (xkSSa)

162 Will there be cannibalism???
Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 05, 2015 12:33 PM (fWAjv)

You can bet your life on it.

Posted by: Rougarou at May 05, 2015 12:34 PM (2Ojst)

163 "The Southern Poverty Law Center." What the fuck does the name mean? And why does everyone treat them as though they are the final arbiter on all things "hate?"

Posted by: JoeF. at May 05, 2015 12:34 PM (GGOeJ)

164 Posted by: wrg500 at May 05, 2015 12:32 PM (S+el1)

Well, I don't. Although I do think we are generally safe, I also think it was foolish to think that the fall of soviet union in the '90s would mean peace on earth and that we no longer needed to have people in a hardened bunker, you know... just in case.

I think it's a good idea for a country of our size to have a 'just in case' plan when it comes to EMPs and nuclear attacks. You know... just in case.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:35 PM (AkOaV)

165 I'm reaslly starting to fret that getting them out of power might not be possible.

we have millions of new voters and unions and such knock on their doors and 'help them vote'

Posted by: comrade willow at May 05, 2015 12:35 PM (nqBYe)

166 Special agents at the IRS accidentally shot their
firearms 11 times between 2009 and 2011, and at least three of the cases
'may have resulted in property damage or

personal injury.'







Hard drives hardest hit.

Posted by: rickb223


I've accidentally fired a firearm exactly 0 times in the last 15 years.

Posted by: Moderate Salami at May 05, 2015 12:35 PM (/Ho8c)

167 People need to go to jail.

Simpler to just put barbed wire around Washington.

Posted by: t-bird at May 05, 2015 12:35 PM (FcR7P)

168 The first thing the GOP president should after
taking oath in January 2017 is publicizing all of Obama's skeletons.
All. Of. Them.



Screw trying to get jail time - that won't happen and it will just make him a martyr.



But by just putting the stuff out in the open, you make the
narcissist look bad. You tarnish his reputation - which is the only
thing that matters to him.





Posted by: MacGruber at May 05, 2015 12:21 PM (sWgE+)]/i]
This is a good idea. I don't support prosecuting previous Administrations, regardless of how richly they deserve it, because that way leads us to becoming (more of) a banana republic.

But a speech with facts and figures, a la Khruschev's famous de-Stalinization speech in 1956, would go some ways toward addressing the problem.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 05, 2015 12:36 PM (oKE6c)

169 You want me on that wall! You need me on that wall!

Posted by: Lt Colonel Justin Case at May 05, 2015 12:36 PM (NF2Bf)

170 Oops.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 05, 2015 12:36 PM (oKE6c)

171 "And why does everyone treat them as though they are the final arbiter on all things "hate?""

Well, to be fair they have inspired two terrorist attacks.

Posted by: Lauren at May 05, 2015 12:36 PM (MYCIw)

172 Posted by: JoeF. at May 05, 2015 12:34 PM (GGOeJ)

They were founded in the '70s to go after the KKK and other "hate groups" in civil court.

Not much KKK'ing going on in the '70s, and they couldnt find many "hate groups" so they had to expand their definitions a little.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:36 PM (AkOaV)

173 LMAO. A teacher in DC used these math problems for 3rd graders.


My 3 friends and I were caught and tied up by 1023 screaming cannibals in a jungle last
night. Soon we were feeling terribly itchy because of the mosquitoes. We begged the
cannibals to scratch us. 219 cannibals refused because they were busy cutting vegetables. The
rest of them, however, surrounded us in equal numbers and began to scratch us with their
teeth, just like dogs. It felt good! How many cannibals scratched me?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 05, 2015 12:37 PM (fWAjv)

174 I'm now 61, and never audited in my life until Obama, when my very small C corp was pulled for an IRS audit FOUR YEARS IN A ROW. Perhaps I should mention I donated $100 each to Joe "You lie!" Wilson Scott Brown.

Posted by: Kate58 at May 05, 2015 12:37 PM (MvtKs)

175 Thank God my accountant was a former IRS agent and knew how to handle her. She wasted two months, didn't find any of the real stuff, settled for tax on TE expenses without receipts.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 05, 2015 12:32 PM (0FSuD)


So....that's a bit of an odd phraseology there. The way you have that written, one could translate "any of the real stuff" as "evidence of tax fraud."

So, in this particular case, what do you mean by "the real stuff"?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 05, 2015 12:37 PM (sbV1u)

176 Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:35 PM (AkOaV)

Yea that's the problem with the so called "Peace Dividend". It takes "Just in Case" out of the equation.

Posted by: wrg500 at May 05, 2015 12:37 PM (S+el1)

177 People need to go to jail be tared, feathered run out o town on a rail, since what first comes to mind would get me banned.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 05, 2015 12:37 PM (jMMCO)

178 174 ... Wilson "and" Scott Brown, forgot about the ampersands

Posted by: Kate58 at May 05, 2015 12:38 PM (MvtKs)

179 I think the IRS is a great organization and the people who work there are top notch, the best of the best. Oh and the NSA also.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 05, 2015 12:39 PM (rDqRv)

180 Not much KKK'ing going on in the '70s, and they couldnt find many "hate groups" so they had to expand their definitions a little.



Morris Dees needed a paycheck and didn't want to do honest work.

Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 05, 2015 12:39 PM (YlaKl)

181 Plus Russian Bears have been flirting with our coasts for the last few years and fucking with their European neighbors.



We have no idea if they're carrying nukes. Accidental or purposeful
launch somewhere off the west coast... and yeah, I'd want to be in a
hardened bunker if I were NORAD.



Remind me again - what was it John McCain said about fear and Obama as POTUS?

Gee, somebody who couldn't pass the security examination to be a contract janitor in a Federal building has control of the nuclear football - why would that trouble anyone?



Posted by: An Observation at May 05, 2015 12:39 PM (j6ras)

182 Simpler to just put barbed wire around Washington.
Posted by: t-bird at May 05, 2015 12:35 PM (FcR7P)


--------------------------------------------


That's my idea also. Siege.

Posted by: Soona at May 05, 2015 12:39 PM (/HX7u)

183 "I'm reaslly starting to fret that getting them out of power might not be possible. "

One of the problems is that there are enough Republicans in on the scam to ensure that we really don't have an effective opposition party. Either that, or the GOP is afraid of tearing down to bureacracy because they dream about taking it over someday, and want to keep the structure as-is for when/if that happens...

Posted by: JoeF. at May 05, 2015 12:39 PM (GGOeJ)

184 Nothing will happen unless a couple of million of us march on D.C. And that will never happen.
=======

Prove me wrong: The only march that will change anything in DC is one that wears combat fatigues and carries weapons.

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 05, 2015 12:39 PM (ZvKdv)

185 Jeffrey Skilling, harmed only his employees. In jail.

Lois Lerner, harming whichever private citizens happen to attract her notice by espousing political opinions she doesn't like. Unaccountable. Free.

Remember this the next time liberals try to justify moar government as the only check on corrupt capitalism. Corrupt government is infinitely worse.

Posted by: Sunni LeBeouf at May 05, 2015 12:40 PM (xkSSa)

186 I think the IRS is a great organization and the people who work there are top notch, the best of the best. Oh and the NSA also.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 05, 2015 12:39 PM (rDqRv)


Thanks for the kind words.

Posted by: Bob at the NSA at May 05, 2015 12:40 PM (S+el1)

187 Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 05, 2015 12:37 PM (fWAjv)

oooh oooh oooh!

I know!

268?

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:40 PM (AkOaV)

188 163
"The Southern Poverty Law Center." What the fuck does the name mean? And
why does everyone treat them as though they are the final arbiter on
all things "hate?"

Posted by: JoeF. at May 05, 2015 12:34 PM
------------

A: They have declared themselves the final arbiter on
all things "hate".

and

B: They are lefties.


Posted by: irright at May 05, 2015 12:40 PM (8GKDa)

189 Thanks for the kind words.

Posted by: Bob at the NSA


Dittos!

Posted by: The Other Bob at the IRS at May 05, 2015 12:41 PM (NF2Bf)

190 carries weapons.
Posted by: RoyalOil at May 05, 2015 12:39 PM (ZvKdv)

Except DC is essentially a gun free zone.

So try marching on DC armed and see what happens.

Better off hiring Cliff Claven and his gyrocopter.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:41 PM (AkOaV)

191 have no idea if this is connected.

we get asked for confirmation EVERY year by OH from which we moved 6 years ago that we don't work there. they ask for 3 years tax proof and employment. EVERY year.
they get the same shit and lose the years they've already been sent, round -round we go.

so IRS in general is just ran badly? or do they keep losing peoples information?

Posted by: comrade willow at May 05, 2015 12:42 PM (nqBYe)

192 I'm old enough to remember when the media went batshit hysterical when it was discovered that a president made a half-hearted and quickly-scuttled effort to use the IRS against his political opponents.

Now we have a president who is actively using the IRS to harass his opponents and all we get from the media is crickets.

Gee, I wonder what changed.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 05, 2015 12:42 PM (8ZskC)

193 Thanks for the kind words.
Posted by: Bob at the NSA at May 05, 2015 12:40 PM (S+el1)


Hey Bob! Long-time suspect, first time caller here. LOOOOOOOOVE your work!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 05, 2015 12:42 PM (sbV1u)

194
I think the IRS is a great organization and the people who work there are top notch, the best of the best. Oh and the NSA also.


i couldn't agree more. i don't think the men and women of the IRS get paid enough for the magnificent and heroic job they do on behalf of all of us patriotic americans

Posted by: kj at May 05, 2015 12:43 PM (lKyWE)

195 Assume every act of our government is political now. Get used to it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 05, 2015 12:43 PM (8ZskC)

196 Does the KKK even exist anymore? Oh, I imagine there's a bunch of losers parading around a field somewhere, draped in bed sheets. But really, are they still going after blacks?

Posted by: JoeF. at May 05, 2015 12:44 PM (GGOeJ)

197 Posted by: Kate58 at May 05, 2015 12:37 PM (MvtKs)

Yeah, I would avoid donating money to candidates in any kind of public way.

I think if you keep it under $50, they dont have to report to the FCC who donated it.

I dont know, might want to ask Obamas campaign what the trick is -- they seem very good at obscuring sources of campaign money.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:44 PM (AkOaV)

198 So....that's a bit of an odd phraseology there. The
way you have that written, one could translate "any of the real stuff"
as "evidence of tax fraud."



So, in this particular case, what do you mean by "the real stuff"?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 05, 2015 12:37 PM (sbV1u)

BINGO. When you own a small company a lot of things get mis-allocated on your tax returns. My accountant discovered by stupid controller, since fired, had been classifying life insurance premiums as just insurance and writing them off.
It was the only big problem we could find in our returns. IRS agent never noticed it, we got a Free and Clear letter and escaped.


Just saying, the tax code is so fcuking complex that it is impossible not to fcuk up somewhere.


Posted by: Nip Sip at May 05, 2015 12:44 PM (0FSuD)

199 Not that I love Crispy Creme Christie but every time the news refers to the politically motivated bridge closing in NJ (causing a cluster f*** traffic jam for one day) they invariably refer to it as "The Bridgegate Scandal" --just to be sure the LIV know its a "scandal"

"Questions about the Clinton Foundation" or "Questions about Lois Lerner at the IRS" not so much.

Oh, and that slug in the NYS Assembly Dean Skelos (R-Gun Control) is going to jail for corruption for wrangling jobs for his son in law. Siphoning millions from foreign governments hostile to the US, again, not so much.

Posted by: NYC Parent adding lead shielding to his bunker at May 05, 2015 12:44 PM (HEo6y)

200 193 Thanks for the kind words.
Posted by: Bob at the NSA at May 05, 2015 12:40 PM (S+el1)


Hey Bob! Long-time suspect, first time caller here. LOOOOOOOOVE your work!
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 05, 2015 12:42 PM (sbV1u)

Damn government flunkies get all the love.

Posted by: Jake, from State Farm at May 05, 2015 12:44 PM (2Ojst)

201 Prove me wrong: The only march that will change anything in DC is one that wears combat fatigues and carries weapons.

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 05, 2015 12:39 PM (ZvKdv)


I would only add: ". . .and isn't afraid to use them."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 05, 2015 12:46 PM (zF6Iw)

202 Now we have a president who is actively using the IRS to harass his opponents and all we get from the media is crickets.

Gee, I wonder what changed.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 05, 2015 12:42 PM (8ZskC)

----

One President they hated

One President they love.

In those circles, that is called OBJECTIVITY.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 05, 2015 12:46 PM (8XRCm)

203 The New York jury in the Etan Patz murder trial said Tuesday that it is unable to reach a verdict on the 15th day of deliberations, Reuters reported.

The judge told jury members to try one more time to reach a verdict, the report said. Pedro Hernandez, 54, who is on trial, made a confession in 2012. His lawyers say its false, and theyve pointed to another suspect who wasnt charged.

Patz, 6, disappeared in 1979 and was among the first missing children pictured on milk cartons.


Well that was 100% predictable since there was NO evidence except the ramblings of mentally ill man

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 05, 2015 12:46 PM (rDqRv)

204 Posted by: Jake, from State Farm at May 05, 2015 12:44 PM (2Ojst)

Well you do sound hideous, so there is that.

Posted by: Bob at the NSA at May 05, 2015 12:46 PM (S+el1)

205 Hey Bob! Long-time suspect, first time caller here. LOOOOOOOOVE your work!



That Enzyte is amazing! (waving)

Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 05, 2015 12:46 PM (YlaKl)

206 su wallen
Password:

#

Posted by: Sunni LeBeouf at May 05, 2015 12:47 PM (xkSSa)

207 Damn government flunkies get all the love.

Posted by: Jake, from State Farm at May 05, 2015 12:44 PM (2Ojst)


What are you wearing Jake, from State Farm?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 05, 2015 12:47 PM (sbV1u)

208 Posted by: JoeF. at May 05, 2015 12:44 PM (GGOeJ)

No.

There are a few hundred scattered KKK members belonging to different groups across the country. Big presence in PA and FL. And by big I mean a few dozen people.

All socialists / democrats, by the way.

I mean the problem the KKK had was that they were originally charted to keep white carpet baggers out of dixie, to make sure the blacks didnt get uppity and try to vote republican, and to keep the democrat party machine in power.

So, uh... Democrat party no longer wants them. They hate Republicans (who also don't want them anyways)... so they're kind of floating out there in no mans land.

And no, I havent heard of anyone claiming to be KKK and committing "hate crimes" in recent decades.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:47 PM (AkOaV)

209 The employees at the NSA and IRS exemplify a dedication to public service that cannot even by matched by our brave men and women in uniform.

Hip hip, Huzzah!

Posted by: Lurking Canuck at May 05, 2015 12:47 PM (NF2Bf)

210 People need to go to jail.


F*ck that noise. Firing squad.

Oh, and hola, Horde.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 05, 2015 12:47 PM (FsuaD)

211 " But really, are they still going after blacks?"

Wasn't there a story a few months ago where they were actively recruiting minorities?

Posted by: Lauren at May 05, 2015 12:47 PM (MYCIw)

212 Lois Lerner is the bravest, finest, most loveable woman I ever met.

Posted by: NYC Parent adding lead shielding to his bunker at May 05, 2015 12:47 PM (HEo6y)

213 I dont know, might want to ask Obamas campaign what the trick is -- they seem very good at obscuring sources of campaign money.

---

There is no *trick*. Jarrett just calls Lerner as says "audit those guys, ignore these guys."

Posted by: fixerupper at May 05, 2015 12:47 PM (8XRCm)

214 Damn these bastards to hell.

Every last one of 'em.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 05, 2015 12:47 PM (wtvvX)

215 Everything in our society, government, judicial, etc. can only work IF the individuals follow the rules, the law, etc.
IF a government agency doesn't follow the law, and the agency overseeing it doesn't then follow the subsequent law, and the judicial branch doesn't follow the law, and the enforcement branch doesn't follow the law, we have a lawless society, with each person on their own to defend themselves and at the mercy of those who have more power than they.


Hear that Gabe Malor? All those intricate analyses where you claim x and y can't POSSIBLY happen because they're against the law are jackass. Where there's enough of a confluence of power it's Calvinball where the only rule is "I win".

Posted by: bonhomme at May 05, 2015 12:48 PM (jhqr1)

216 I sense a business opportunity.

Pineapples wrapped in razor wire.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 05, 2015 12:49 PM (FsuaD)

217 If I were running for president...


If I were president, I'd purge the bureaucracy starting with...

Posted by: Tonic Dog at May 05, 2015 12:49 PM (n+/r/)

218 Posted by: JoeF. at May 05, 2015 12:34 PM (GGOeJ)

1) "The Southern Poverty Law Center." What the fuck
does the name mean?
They are Marxists in good standing, so the name has to reflect some type of affiliation with the "working classes" and "the poor."
2) And why does everyone treat them as though they are
the final arbiter on all things "hate?"
They are Marxists in good standing and are therefore the only "credible" source for their Marxist brethren in the MSM and government to cite.
Of course with a name like that, you'd think they do something to "help the impoverished." You'd be wrong. Just another money laundering service "charity" for the Left: http://tinyurl.com/qd4eqbg

Posted by: Country Singer at May 05, 2015 12:49 PM (8hctH)

219
Damn government flunkies get all the love.




quit whining khaki boy

Posted by: flo from progressive at May 05, 2015 12:49 PM (lKyWE)

220 Posted by: comrade willow at May 05, 2015 12:42 PM (nqBYe)

Simple answer is... who knows?

That's what makes it so insidious. No one knows why they're getting audited, if it was truly random, or what they did to piss off LaToya over at the IRS to get their file pulled up.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:50 PM (AkOaV)

221 Posted by: flo from progressive at May 05, 2015 12:49 PM (lKyWE)

Ha, Ha, Ha I get sprinkles.

Posted by: Bob at the NSA at May 05, 2015 12:51 PM (S+el1)

222 Damn government flunkies get all the love.




quit whining khaki boy
Posted by: flo from progressive at May 05, 2015 12:49 PM (lKyWE)

----

Oy say. Damn chippy the lot of you Yanks are.

Posted by: The Geico Gecko at May 05, 2015 12:51 PM (8XRCm)

223 Just saying, the tax code is so fcuking complex that it is impossible not to fcuk up somewhere.
Posted by: Nip Sip at May 05, 2015 12:44 PM (0FSuD)



I'll try remember that defense if I'm ever audited.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 05, 2015 12:51 PM (sbV1u)

224 >>If I were president, I'd purge the bureaucracy starting with...

The DOJ. When the gatekeepers are corrupt there are no gates.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 05, 2015 12:51 PM (g1DWB)

225 Posted by: Country Singer at May 05, 2015 12:49 PM (8hctH)

Yeah, if I recall, they have a $200+ million dollar endowment and just sit on the dividends from that money getting wealthy as fuck.

And calling every conservative group "hate groups".


Oh, fun fact: the FBI uses SPLC information when training new agents on "hate groups" and how to spot hate groups.

So according to the FBI, every group on the SPLC list is a hate group.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:52 PM (AkOaV)

226 208, why doesn't the KKK go after jihadists then, and leave the blacks alone?

Posted by: JoeF. at May 05, 2015 12:52 PM (GGOeJ)

227 The question is, if an R wins 2016 and the Rs clean house, will employees of MSNBC be audited? And not like this: I mean lawfully.

Posted by: Al Sharpton at May 05, 2015 12:52 PM (xkSSa)

228 Posted by: The Geico Gecko at May 05, 2015 12:51 PM (8XRCm)

You have a H1B visa? Your paperwork in order?

Posted by: Bob at the NSA at May 05, 2015 12:52 PM (S+el1)

229 I've accidentally fired a firearm exactly 0 times in the last 15 years.

Posted by: Moderate Salami


I double tapped once when I was firing a .45 with a sensitive (~3lbs) trigger. I only meant to fire one round. I can never claim never to have had an AD.

*hangs head in shame*

Posted by: bonhomme at May 05, 2015 12:53 PM (jhqr1)

230 Does Sharpton even need to be audited? Isn't it established public record that he is a tax delinquent?

Posted by: Conservative Crank's iPhone at May 05, 2015 12:53 PM (IPdQb)

231 why doesn't the KKK go after jihadists then, and leave the blacks alone?
Posted by: JoeF.



Muzzie chop and muzzie splodey.

Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 05, 2015 12:54 PM (YlaKl)

232 "So according to the FBI, every group on the SPLC list is a hate group."

Yep. So the Family Research Council is a hate group. The guy who tried to shoot up to FRC? Not a h8er.

Posted by: Lauren at May 05, 2015 12:54 PM (MYCIw)

233 227 The question is, if an R wins 2016 and the Rs clean house, will employees of MSNBC be audited? And not like this: I mean lawfully.
Posted by: Al Sharpton at May 05, 2015 12:52 PM (xkSSa)


Ha. They couldn't even fire the US attorneys last time.

Posted by: Iblis at May 05, 2015 12:54 PM (9221z)

234 #59, I was audited on my 2009 return in 2011.

You made a mistake, you owe us money.

No I don't. Turned in proof.

You're right.

Six months later they found another more extensive mistake, and told me to go fuck myself nine thousand dollars worth. No appeals, no nothing. They disallowed a fuckton of deductible medical expenses for my then-wife, to name one.

I was working my first job after the Army, and making maybe 35,000. Had to cash out my only retirement account to pay them, which of course tax-fucked me the next year too.

I will go to my grave not knowing if some IRS asshole had an axe to grind because the NSA has me on a list for what I post at the HQ or Sipsey Street Irregulars or other firearms forums and Facebook pages.

The only good thing about the last few years is the masks are off and we KNOW parts of our own government are at war with us.

Posted by: SGT Dan's Cat at May 05, 2015 12:54 PM (XN4C4)

235 Posted by: Al Sharpton at May 05, 2015 12:52 PM (xkSSa)

no, because the bureaucracies in DC are where the real progressive power structure is.

Because they can quietly behind the scenes do their thing without any accountability regardless of who is president.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:54 PM (AkOaV)

236 I can never claim never to have had an AD.

*hangs head in shame*

Posted by: bonhomme at May 05, 2015 12:53 PM (jhqr1)


Oh I know honey. BOY do I know!

Posted by: mrs. bonhomme at May 05, 2015 12:54 PM (sbV1u)

237 "The Southern Poverty Law Center."



Even the name irritates me, using as it does "Poverty" = "Black."

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 05, 2015 12:55 PM (oKE6c)

238 No democrat will serve jail time over this, unless they tried to stop it.

Posted by: Null at May 05, 2015 12:55 PM (LZood)

239 The Southern Poverty Law Center.



Jewish Yankees that moved to AL to make trouble. Now over half their revenue is government grants from you democrat friends.



Moved to AL in 1971. A TOTAL democrat front. TOTAL




http://tinyurl.com/l4upc

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 05, 2015 12:55 PM (0FSuD)

240 quit whining khaki boy

Posted by: flo from progressive at May 05, 2015 12:49 PM (lKyWE)


At least Jake is an actual person: http://tinyurl.com/p8alcy3

Posted by: Country Singer at May 05, 2015 12:55 PM (8hctH)

241 For those of you familiar with Dolan, the Knicks and Thomas get this:


Isiah Thomas is back at Madison Square Garden.
Thomas has been hired to be president of the New York Liberty of the WNBA. Thomas also will have an ownership stake in the team.
Garden CEO James Dolan, who owns the Knicks and Liberty and is an unflinchingly loyal Thomas supporter, said he began discussing the role with Thomas in the fall and he has been pleased with the results.

Good G-D some people never learn?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 05, 2015 12:56 PM (rDqRv)

242
Shocked.....gambling.......

Some assembly required.

Posted by: Captain Renault at May 05, 2015 12:56 PM (6/3TZ)

243 I double tapped once when I was firing a .45 with a sensitive (~3lbs) trigger. I only meant to fire one round. I can never claim never to have had an AD.
*hangs head in shame*



That's not an AD. You WERE shooting after all.
AD's are when you reholster, are putting it in the trunk, taking it out to clean.

Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 05, 2015 12:56 PM (YlaKl)

244 If I were president, I'd purge the bureaucracy starting with...

---

The EPA.

I want my Weed-B-Gone to actually kill weeds. I want my phosphates back so I dont have to wash my my dishes before I put them in the dishwasher. I want a car big enough I can actually stretch my legs out in. I want to be able to buy a gascan with a spout that doesnt have a fucking spring loaded whatsamathingy on it and costs less than thirty dollars, and I want to able to work on my cars AC system without running the risk of committing a fucking felony.

Too much to ask???

Posted by: The Geico Gecko at May 05, 2015 12:56 PM (8XRCm)

245 As with the illegal "John Doe Investigation" in Wisconsin... once a government is committed to the
principle of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to
go, and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until
it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country
where everyone lives in fear.

Posted by: Harry S Truman at May 05, 2015 12:56 PM (OXzvH)

246 Posted by: Lauren at May 05, 2015 12:54 PM (MYCIw)

correct.

But I mean, not to belabor the point, but it really does make me nervous that the FBI, DHS, the "fusion centers" and the DOJ proper are all saying "right wing home grown extremists" are the biggest threat to "national security."

And we all laugh it up about it, but they are really giving field agents marching orders to look out for... US. As in you and me. We're the "extremists" they're talking about.

That makes me very nervous.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:57 PM (AkOaV)

247 Just saying, the tax code is so fcuking complex that it is impossible not to fcuk up somewhere.

Posted by: Nip Sip at May 05, 2015 12:44 PM (0FSuD)/i]



For them, that's a feature, not a bug.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 05, 2015 12:57 PM (oKE6c)

248
244 is me.


Fucking lizards.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 05, 2015 12:57 PM (8XRCm)

249 You know, conservative punditry and commentating is basically the same as yelling "Fire" in a crowded theater.




Posted by: SJW Handbook at May 05, 2015 12:15 PM (NUCTk)

Yes, it is, under the exception to that rule about not shouting fire in a crowded theater - except when there actually is a fire.So yeah, there has been a fire burning since Kerry led the VVAW.

Posted by: An Observation at May 05, 2015 12:57 PM (j6ras)

250 Oops again. Damn.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at May 05, 2015 12:57 PM (oKE6c)

251 The only good thing about the last few years is the masks are off and we KNOW parts of our own government are at war with us.
Posted by: SGT Dan's Cat at May 05, 2015 12:54 PM (XN4C4)


---------------------------------------------


This is the attitude that true Americans must take concerning DC. They have declared war on us.

Posted by: Soona at May 05, 2015 12:57 PM (/HX7u)

252 199---the local papers here in NJ (Star-Ledger, The Record) have never shut up about Bridgegate, and still run two or three stories and a column or two about it. They are feasting on crumbs--and loving every minute of it. I'm sick of Christie, but the Christie-hate in NJ is all about the Public Employees. See, when he was bafely inaugurated, he rescinded a big pay raise that Scumbag Corzine gave them on the way out. That was it. That's all it is and ever was. Bridgegate was concocted to clear the way for Hillary--and it worked.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 05, 2015 12:57 PM (GGOeJ)

253 Turn on CNN, who do they call "ring wing extremists"?

Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, TEA Party members, anyone who votes for a Republican...

Listen to Obama, he regularly uses the word "extremists" when referring to his political opponents.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 12:57 PM (AkOaV)

254 I see you Jay. I see you.

Posted by: The Barrel at May 05, 2015 12:58 PM (sbV1u)

255 Too much to ask???

Posted by: The Geico Gecko at May 05, 2015 12:56 PM (8XRCm)

yes

Posted by: Bob at the NSA at May 05, 2015 12:58 PM (S+el1)

256 Posted by: Nip Sip at May 05, 2015 12:44 PM (0FSuD)




So you filed amended returns, right?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, Keeper of the Guards at May 05, 2015 12:58 PM (fwARV)

257 There are a few hundred scattered KKK members belonging to different groups across the country. Big presence in PA and FL. And by big I mean a few dozen people.

They're about 5-8K members. Probably half of those are gov't investigators and informants.

OH has a lot of them for some reason. ID too.

When I went to Boy Scout camp in Coeur d'Alene ID they told us not to wander off because there was a big skinhead training camp nearby. At the time I thought they were just using a boogeyman to keep us in line. Nope, they were telling the truth.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 05, 2015 12:59 PM (jhqr1)

258
At least Jake is an actual person:


kiss my grits hater

Posted by: flo from alice the original fake flo at May 05, 2015 01:00 PM (lKyWE)

259 KKK = four FBI agents and a retard having a rally.

Posted by: Super Creepy Eric Hoteham at May 05, 2015 01:00 PM (oDCMR)

260 When I went to Boy Scout camp in Coeur d'Alene ID they told us not to wander off because there was a big skinhead training camp nearby.


Camp Robert Byrd?

Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 05, 2015 01:00 PM (YlaKl)

261 208, why doesn't the KKK go after jihadists then, and leave the blacks alone?

Posted by: JoeF. at May 05, 2015 12:52 PM (GGOeJ)


Because jihadis might shoot back.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 05, 2015 01:00 PM (Jh0nR)

262 Wayne Allen Root went to Columbia at the same time as "missing" Obama and says he knew everybody there except "missing" Obama. Nobody knew of "missing" Obama.

That's why they went after Root. Root exposes "missing" Obama.

Forged birth certificate, missing years at Columbia.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at May 05, 2015 01:03 PM (bG5Iy)

263 #230 "Does Sharpton even need to be audited? Isn't it established public record that he is a tax delinquent?"

Yes, but he's a tax cheat with the right friends. We're just law-abiding citizens with the "wrong" ideas. So it's totes cool for our own government to hate-fuck us through the IRS.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at May 05, 2015 01:03 PM (tuPiK)

264 To hell with jail, machine gun the mofos.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 05, 2015 01:03 PM (FMbng)

265 "People need to go to jail."

At a minimum.

Posted by: flounder at May 05, 2015 01:04 PM (ecDRv)

266 Wayne Allen Root is the guy who wrote the article about how no one who was in Obama's class at Columbia remembers him, right?

I don't mean that to sound accusing or denigrating or paranoid. It was a fascinating article.

Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 05, 2015 01:04 PM (mf5HN)

267 Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at May 05, 2015 01:03 PM (bG5Iy)

If I recall, right before the 2012 elections (in the year or two leading up to it) he was making the media rounds essentially calling Obama a liar about his Colombia experience.

Which is probably what got him audited.

Not that O called the IRS, but some "rogue IRS agent" was probably like "fuck this guy insulting Dear Leader. Let's see how he feels when he's audited."

Just like how NY state audits Rush Limbaugh every year. Just to fuck with him. Because they can. He doesn't live or work in NY, but hey, why not?

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 01:04 PM (AkOaV)

268 Well, Jail is defiantly one option and I'm not talking about Club Feb either. Hard Labor, chain-gang work in the hot summers here in the South.

You wouldn't need to do this many times, throw a few of these cronies under the jail and they'd start rolling on their 'bosses.' If we don't start doing this soon, we're going to make a Banana Republic look Jeffersonian.

Posted by: ATLDiver at May 05, 2015 01:05 PM (4N7Kq)

269 Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 05, 2015 01:04 PM (mf5HN)

Yeah, essentially.

He called a bunch of his classmates from the time, no one remembers Obama.

But some do remember the crew Obama claimed to hang out with, who are were all nut job liberation theory types and/or open communists.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 01:05 PM (AkOaV)

270 Idaho is a scary place. If you go, bring your fake foreskin.

Posted by: Garrett at May 05, 2015 01:05 PM (1RMKx)

271 It continues: FCC needs to tamp down Drudge ( Brietbart) Corrupt top to bottom inside out. Before long AoS.

Posted by: just bob at May 05, 2015 01:06 PM (wkuqO)

272
I don't mean that to sound accusing or denigrating or paranoid. It was a fascinating article.

Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 05, 2015 01:04 PM (mf5HN)


Now, now, Empress, no one would ever think of you for so much as a second as, "accusing or denigrating or paranoid."

Perish the thought.

Why, that's the very reason I carry this here cattle prod!

Posted by: The Barrel at May 05, 2015 01:06 PM (sbV1u)

273 FAUX SKIN

Posted by: 2 x 4 at May 05, 2015 01:06 PM (1RMKx)

274 That's not an AD. You WERE shooting after all.
AD's are when you reholster, are putting it in the trunk, taking it out to clean.


Story time! I was armed security at Ft Lewis (contractor). One day our firearms safety instructor was in a classroom doing a demonstration. He handed his loaded weapon to his assistant in exchange for an unloaded one. Only the assistant handed him back the loaded weapon. The instructor, now handling a loaded weapon, thinking it's unloaded, then pulled the trigger. He put a round into a wall near a student's head. He resigned immediately and was allowed to pretend it never happened.

I wasn't in the room. I heard about it because I was there when he tendered his resignation over the event.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 05, 2015 01:06 PM (jhqr1)

275 270 Idaho is a scary place. If you go, bring your fake foreskin.
Posted by: Garrett at May 05, 2015 01:05 PM (1RMKx)


You don't have anything to fear, your fellow libs have moved in.

Posted by: Californicated Idaho at May 05, 2015 01:07 PM (wkuqO)

276 Idaho is a scary place. If you go, bring your fake foreskin.

Posted by: Garrett at May 05, 2015 01:05 PM (1RMKx)


There's a traumatic story there. I just know it.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 05, 2015 01:07 PM (sbV1u)

277 Posted by: bonhomme at May 05, 2015 01:06 PM (jhqr1)

I believe at least one of the rules of gun safety is operative in that situation.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 01:07 PM (AkOaV)

278 "Does Sharpton even need to be audited? Isn't it established public record that he is a tax delinquent?"

Yes, but he's a tax cheat with the right friends. We're just law-abiding citizens with the "wrong" ideas. So it's totes cool for our own government to hate-fuck us through the IRS.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at May 05, 2015 01:03 PM (tuPiK)


He is audited all the time and fined. So? he still does not pay.
It's all a game if your a progressive, especially if your a progressive race hustler and close pal of Fredo

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 05, 2015 01:08 PM (rDqRv)

279 The few times in several years I've accidentally run through a radio show or written piece affiliated with the SPLC they always throw "Morris Dees" into the mix about hundred times, to try to appear something other than a special pleader for All Things Black All the Time. Which is about as relevant and convincing as the RNC claiming to be the "Party of Lincoln."

Posted by: NYC Parent adding lead shielding to his bunker at May 05, 2015 01:08 PM (HEo6y)

280 "Not that O called the IRS, but some "rogue IRS agent" was probably like "fuck this guy insulting Dear Leader. Let's see how he feels when he's audited."
It's always like that, isn't it? Plausible deniability. The guy at the top doesn't have to always tell his sycophants what he wants them to do.
Nixon's mistake was thinking out loud....on tape.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 05, 2015 01:08 PM (GGOeJ)

281 So what fills me with equal parts rage and despair is - where do we go from here? We all know how this story ends; are we supposed to wait until certain blogs or posters or friends or colleagues are just. . .missing?

Who is our leader?

Who will fight?

What do we do?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 05, 2015 01:08 PM (zF6Iw)

282 Camp Robert Byrd?

Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger


I dunno what they called it. I looked it up on the internet a few years ago and verified its existence.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 05, 2015 01:09 PM (jhqr1)

283 Fellow libs?

You must have confused with someone who cares about things.

Posted by: Garrett at May 05, 2015 01:09 PM (1RMKx)

284
No Ace. This isn't "jail time."

This is the time to drag these tyrannical cretins from their homes, tear their clothes from their bodies, and immerse their miserable souls in boiling pitch, and then douse them in feathers.
Then burn their homes to the ground.

Posted by: Sam In Va at May 05, 2015 01:09 PM (Q52VH)

285 Ask yourself, "Who is the controlling legal authority in this situation?

Uh-huh. Let it go, brah.

Posted by: Fritz at May 05, 2015 01:09 PM (ty633)

286 snopes;


yeah i know snopes lies. but there are others that say Obama was there.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/columbia.asp

Posted by: willow at May 05, 2015 01:10 PM (nqBYe)

287 I had 7 twitter followers, then tweet 1 thing, wake up today and have 5.

Posted by: People Corp at May 05, 2015 01:10 PM (TzeLs)

288 several others and columbia itself.

Posted by: willow at May 05, 2015 01:10 PM (nqBYe)

289 http://tinyurl.com/oudccxj

Baltimore spends $7000 more than the US average on each student.

But yeah....more funding!!!1!1!11

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 05, 2015 01:10 PM (fWAjv)

290 Well, Jail is defiantly one option and I'm not talking about Club Feb either. Hard Labor, chain-gang work in the hot
summers here in the South.


Fed pen at Deer Lodge. Montana.

Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 05, 2015 01:11 PM (YlaKl)

291 I believe at least one of the rules of gun safety is operative in that situation.

Three by my count!

Posted by: bonhomme at May 05, 2015 01:11 PM (jhqr1)

292 In recent years something has become very clear to me. The Washington City government is the enemy of America and civilization. They are in league with islamists, communists, atheists, and ultimately, satan.

Posted by: Eromero at May 05, 2015 01:11 PM (go5uR)

293 Within six months of getting a facebook account and talking about Obama, i got an IRS letter stating that i owed $1300 from 2010 and had to pay or face fines. The people that do my taxes swore they were filed correctly. I called the IRS and was simply told i had underpaid and i HAD to give them $1300. I paid. I know of two more facebook friends who received similar letters, both conservatives. I even heard Anthony Cumia from opie and anthony say he received a letter about a "mistake on hus 2010 taxes" and he also had to pay even though he claimed no mistake was made. Anyone here get a similar letter?

Posted by: The Drizzle at May 05, 2015 01:11 PM (ysCLj)

294 There's a traumatic story there. I just know it.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 05, 2015 01:07 PM (sbV1u)


--------------------------------------------


A night on the town. Blind drunk. That slim bald-headed "chick" dressed in leather with the big swastika tat on the neck that took him home..........

It's all coming together now.

Posted by: Soona at May 05, 2015 01:11 PM (/HX7u)

295 OT I know but how/when will we finally get the LA Times video of Obama gushing Viva Palestina at Rasheed Khalidi's sendoff?

Posted by: NYC Parent adding lead shielding to his bunker at May 05, 2015 01:12 PM (HEo6y)

296 we can certainly say that we witnessed Obama siccing (sp) his political helpers on people like Koch openly

Posted by: willow at May 05, 2015 01:12 PM (nqBYe)

297 @267

Wayne Allen Root has been speaking out about "missing" Obama since 2008. He's been a credible source of pain for Obama. That's why they went after him.

Root even has credible classmates and professors who don't remember "missing" Obama at Columbia backing him up.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at May 05, 2015 01:12 PM (bG5Iy)

298
Yep. every time a 2a issue comes to the front people say, "well look. My cousins sisters husband is in the marines, and I know *he* would never obey unconstitutional orders to confiscate peoples' guns! SO obviously the military and police would be on we ...
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That's why they want to make military service a condition for expedited citizenship, and we saw with Boat Boy how useful that is. Here, the parents of the child he murdered will plead to keep him alive. Where he's from, they pay parents to make martyrs of their children. And we're still paying the old bitch and her extended family hundreds of thousands in welfare.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 05, 2015 01:12 PM (nCKKS)

299 So many crooks; Not enough time!

Posted by: Holy Plank of Chatisement at May 05, 2015 01:13 PM (MeuoO)

300 Idaho is a scary place. If you go, bring your fake foreskin.

Posted by: Garrett at May 05, 2015 01:05 PM (1RMKx)




----

You don't have anything to fear, your fellow libs have moved in.

Posted by: Californicated Idaho at May 05, 2015 01:07 PM (wkuqO)


Yes they have: http://tinyurl.com/pn7scde
The Coeur d'Alene area used to be a Aryan Nation/Klan stronghold, but they've pretty well been run out (or so I'm told).

Posted by: Country Singer at May 05, 2015 01:13 PM (8hctH)

301
US Trying to Free Ship Seized by Iran 'Diplomatically'

Rathke says US talking to Marshall Islands to try and return ship, won't answer if US has contacted Iran and won't list consequences to it.


Hey fuck heads, it's not the Marshall Islands that are your problem?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 05, 2015 01:13 PM (rDqRv)

302 The Marshall Islands acted stupidly.

Posted by: Obama at May 05, 2015 01:14 PM (MYCIw)

303 Root even has credible classmates and professors who don't remember "missing" Obama at Columbia backing him up.



Not for long.
--IRS

Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 05, 2015 01:14 PM (YlaKl)

304 Yes they have: http://tinyurl.com/pn7scde
The Coeur d'Alene area used to be a Aryan Nation/Klan stronghold, but they've pretty well been run out (or so I'm told).
Posted by: Country Singer at May 05, 2015 01:13 PM (8hctH)



Wait. So the progressives are fighting the Aryan Nation to overtake parts of Idaho?

I'm rooting for the grizzlies.

Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 05, 2015 01:15 PM (mf5HN)

305 one professor at columbia
Michael L. Baron, who taught the year-long honors seminar in American Foreign Policy that Barack Obama took during his senior year at Columbia and recalled in an NBC interview Obama's "easily acing" the class and receiving an A for his senior paper on the topic of nuclear negotiations with the Soviet Union

Posted by: willow at May 05, 2015 01:15 PM (nqBYe)

306 Anyone here get a similar letter?
Posted by: The Drizzle at May 05, 2015 01:11 PM (ysCLj)

No but thanks for the money. Vegas was great

Posted by: Phony IRS Scam at May 05, 2015 01:15 PM (rDqRv)

307 Someone mentioned Southern Poverty Law Center up thread and asking how they came up with that name, I was thinking the same thing. That name is just perfect for gaining authority with Liberals-

Southern -ooooooo-Poverty-ooooooYes! I'm All about Fighting southern poverty-law-CENTER!!!

Those words just hit them in their authoritarian jizz box.

No one can question something named The Southern Poverty Law Center.

And then what the hell if Pamela Geller's organization is a hate group what the hell are they calling the people that showed up with bombs to kill them?

Muslim awareness outreach?

Posted by: River Guide at May 05, 2015 01:16 PM (RJMhd)

308 293, I've called him a pussy right on the White House facebook page. I guess my IRS letter is in the queue.

Posted by: People Corp at May 05, 2015 01:16 PM (TzeLs)

309 >>Fed pen at Deer Lodge. Montana.


Great archery elk spot. Really. You need to fill out some fos, but the elk love that place.

Posted by: Garrett at May 05, 2015 01:16 PM (1RMKx)

310
pure fascism

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 05, 2015 01:16 PM (ODxAs)

311 Well Professor Baron won't ever get audited, huh?

Posted by: JoeF. at May 05, 2015 01:16 PM (GGOeJ)

312 Not that O called the IRS, but some "rogue IRS agent" was probably like "fuck this guy insulting Dear Leader. Let's see how he feels when he's audited.
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Are you shitting me? The same guy who unsealed his opponent's divorce records? You don't think he made that call? Putin read the fucking email, stupid ass jug eared MF.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 05, 2015 01:16 PM (nCKKS)

313 Wayne Allen Root went to Columbia with Obama and is a former Libertarian party presidential candidate. He quickly saw through our friend by whom we have nothing to fear.
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 05, 2015 12:32 PM (nCKKS)

Root says that neither he nor anyone no one at his 30 year reunion in 2013 remembers Obama. BHO did not attend the reunion, of course.

Posted by: baldilocks at May 05, 2015 01:17 PM (w5lP3)

314 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 05, 2015 01:08 PM (zF6Iw)

we just get ready to start having to get our news from yahoo and cbsabcnbc and not from drudge or ace.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 01:17 PM (AkOaV)

315 anyway. no idea if snopes can be trusted at all. but it does Seem others saw him at columbia. i think- maybe.

nice to be in the position everything is now suspect.

i am soon to be fitted for permanent tin foil hat

Posted by: willow at May 05, 2015 01:17 PM (nqBYe)

316 All the dems on TV talk the party line.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 05, 2015 01:18 PM (rDqRv)

317 Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at May 05, 2015 01:16 PM (nCKKS)

Why would he? He doesn't need to. The IRS agents know what to do.

I would be surprised if they weren't doing this under Bush and Clinton and HW and Reagan, too.

It's just damned near impossible to *prove* you were audited due to political beliefs. Since its "random."

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 01:18 PM (AkOaV)

318 Posted by: willow at May 05, 2015 01:17 PM (nqBYe)

Oh, my guess is that he was at Colombia but was just a loser outsider who hated on the white patriarchy and didn't hang out with most of his classmates.

But regardless...

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 01:19 PM (AkOaV)

319 WHY IS NO ONE IN FUCKING JAIL HERE???



The answer, the GOPe is happy that conservatives are being harassed. Simple as that.


If we had a real opposition party mother fuckers would be paying dearly.


Time for a second party yet?

Posted by: prescient11 at May 05, 2015 01:19 PM (q5APL)

320 Wait. So the progressives are fighting the Aryan Nation to overtake parts of Idaho?

I'm rooting for the grizzlies.

Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 05, 2015 01:15 PM (mf5HN)


What do you have against grizzlies?

Posted by: wrg500 at May 05, 2015 01:19 PM (S+el1)

321 The U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals judge who previously dismissed terror charges against one of the Garland, Texas shooters has a connection to the controversial activist group, National Council of La Raza.

Judge Mary Murguia, appointed by President Clinton and considered a potential nominee to the Supreme Court by President Obama, was the judge who dismissed government charges against Elton Simpson for suspected terrorism in 2011.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 05, 2015 01:19 PM (rDqRv)

322 135,000 dollar fine for not baking cake for ghey wedding.
You want justice? I'll give you justice.

Posted by: Judges for justice at May 05, 2015 01:20 PM (wkuqO)

323 "recalled in an NBC interview Obama's "easily acing" the class and receiving an A for his senior paper on the topic of nuclear negotiations with the Soviet Union"

Yeah, I'm going out on a limb here and saying that at least one, if not all, of those statements are total bullshit.

Posted by: Obama at May 05, 2015 01:20 PM (MYCIw)

324 /obama sock.

Posted by: Lauren at May 05, 2015 01:20 PM (MYCIw)

325 "Not that O called the IRS, but some "rogue IRS agent" was probably like
"fuck this guy insulting Dear Leader. Let's see how he feels when he's
audited."

It's always like that, isn't it? Plausible deniability. The guy at
the top doesn't have to always tell his sycophants what he wants them
to do.



There is not one scrap of paper from Nazi Germany concerning the Holocaust that has Hitler's signature on it. I'm sure had the allies captured Berlin instead of the Russians he would have tried to use the Sgt Schultz defense at Nuremberg.

Posted by: An Observation at May 05, 2015 01:20 PM (j6ras)

326 Yeh me. Just sent my renewal for my CCW. Now if I only had a gun.

Posted by: wrg500 at May 05, 2015 01:21 PM (S+el1)

327 Anyone here get a similar letter?

Posted by: The Drizzle at May 05, 2015 01:11 PM (ysCLj)


My husband's band got a visit from the state labor board. They were misapplying labor law to the band. If the labor board's claims survive the appeal, they will have spent more money investigating the band than they will be able to collect.The band is nonpolitical, but they accepted a gig playing for Magpul's "Goodbye, Colorado GunGrabbers" event.

Posted by: Mindy at May 05, 2015 01:21 PM (G7qet)

328 Is this where I am supposed to quote Allen G?
'Cuz I sure feel like it...

Posted by: chi's sandwIch (previously shredded chi) at May 05, 2015 01:21 PM (ZjzCZ)

329 Trust me when you are in politics, the democrats will come after you.

Posted by: Nip Sip
-------------------------

So..., maybe I f*cked up giving Lynch a pass?
How the hell was I supposed to know?
Anyhow..., sorry about that, but it was the right thing for my career.

Best Regards

Posted by: Thom at May 05, 2015 01:21 PM (n6Nt0)

330 Shrill harpies get Joss Whedon to quit twitter.


http://tinyurl.com/ongl5ab


Regardless of why Whedon ultimately quit, the harassment from feminists for not sufficiently adhering to their preferred feminine narratives illustrates a broader trend on the Internet: the old 'anonymity breeds sociopathy' trope.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 05, 2015 01:21 PM (fWAjv)

331 anyway. no idea if snopes can be trusted at all. but it does Seem others saw him at columbia. i think- maybe.
***
Snopes is completely narrative driven, but I've yet to see them lie about facts.


Posted by: 18-1 at May 05, 2015 01:22 PM (78TbK)

332 @306 lol. Nope, it was the actual, non scam, IRS.

Posted by: The Drizzle at May 05, 2015 01:22 PM (ysCLj)

333 305 willow

So kinda like he is doing now with Iran that deal and the paper both super secret.

That's why I think Corker had to do what he did so we could get a look at the damn thing.

There is a gulf between what the Iranians say they can do and what the Obama Administration claims has been negotiated.

Posted by: River Guide at May 05, 2015 01:22 PM (RJMhd)

334 Snopes is completely narrative driven, but I've yet to see them lie about facts.


We rate this as: Mostly true.

Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 05, 2015 01:23 PM (YlaKl)

335 I'm sure many (probably most) of the IRS' employees are fine, decent people.

Posted by: Moderate Salami at May 05, 2015 01:24 PM (/Ho8c)

336 That's why I think Corker had to do what he did so we could get a look at the damn thing.

There is a gulf between what the Iranians say they can do and what the Obama Administration claims has been negotiated.
Posted by: River Guide at May 05, 2015 01:22 PM (RJMhd)

And you think this Corker thing will solve that? Fredo specifically says that if they try to compare the Farci version with the English version he will veto it. But it's cute you think that?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 05, 2015 01:24 PM (rDqRv)

337 Southern Poverty Law Center had Dobson's Family Research Center listed as a hate group on their SPL website and was part of Floyd Corkins motivation to go and try do a shoot em up in 2013. It ended in a struggle with a security guard preventing Corkins from doing any killing but I think the guard was shot or injured in the process.

Posted by: Rex B at May 05, 2015 01:24 PM (OXzvH)

338 Why doesn't the IRS just use this?
I just got this from some scammer purporting to be my friend who doesn't know my name and has an aol address instead of their actual e-maily :

How are you,

Sorry for any inconvenience, I'm in a terrible situation. Am stranded here in Manila, Philippines since last night. I was hurt and robbed on my way to the hotel I stayed and my luggage is still in custody of the hotel management pending when I make payment on outstanding bills I owe. Am waiting for my colleagues to send me money to get back home but they have not responded and my return flight will be leaving soon. Please let me know if you can help and I will refund the money back to you as soon as I get back home.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 05, 2015 01:24 PM (MeuoO)

339 What do you have against grizzlies?
Posted by: wrg500 at May 05, 2015 01:19 PM (S+el1)


Hmmm. That is a fair point.

Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 05, 2015 01:25 PM (mf5HN)

340 My husband's band got a visit from the state labor board. They were misapplying labor law to the band. If the labor board's claims survive the appeal, they will have spent more money investigating the band than they will be able to collect.The band is nonpolitical, but they accepted a gig playing for Magpul's "Goodbye, Colorado GunGrabbers" event.
Posted by: Mindy
-----------------------------------

This merits a follow-up.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2015 01:25 PM (n6Nt0)

341 Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 05, 2015 01:04 PM (mf5HN)

Even Snopes admits that Root's article shows that Obama did nothing to stand out at Columbia. He was at best average (and at worse below average.)

Root overplays his hand I think, but it's still troublesome for the man who cultivates his image as a "light bringer" to be revealed as someone who left no impression on anyone in college.

Heck I was fairly average, but if you bummed around you could find people who remember me from undergrad.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) rogue bioethicst at May 05, 2015 01:25 PM (HDwDg)

342 I'd love to see That thesis on Russian Nuclear arms negotiations

Posted by: willow at May 05, 2015 01:27 PM (nqBYe)

343 "I've yet to see them lie about facts. "

They lie all the time. Go look at their article on IL Born Alive Infant Protection Act.

Posted by: Lauren at May 05, 2015 01:27 PM (MYCIw)

344 Please let me know if you can help and I will refund the money back to you as soon as I get back home.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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Yeah. Got an email from a 'friend', with whom I had lunch earlier, explaining that his wallet had been stolen in Scotland, and he needed money.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2015 01:27 PM (n6Nt0)

345 One thing I'd like to know: how does a senator get to check in on anyone's audit?

Especially a senator from a different state.

This openly invites screwing people over.

Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) rogue bioethicst at May 05, 2015 01:27 PM (HDwDg)

346 So kinda like he is doing now with Iran that deal and the paper both super secret. That's why I think Corker had to do what he did so we could get a look at the damn thing. There is a gulf between what the Iranians say they can do and what the Obama Administration claims has been negotiated.
Posted by: River Guide at May 05, 2015 01:22 PM (RJMhd)


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IMHO, I don't think there's been a damn thing actually written down on paper with this agreement. That's why Choomboy doesn't want anyone to "read" it.

Posted by: Soona at May 05, 2015 01:27 PM (/HX7u)

347 342 I'd love to see That thesis on Russian Nuclear arms negotiations
Posted by: willow at May 05, 2015 01:27 PM (nqBYe)


Sorry the last copy was on Hillary's email server.

Posted by: just bob at May 05, 2015 01:27 PM (wkuqO)

348 I'd love to see That thesis on Russian Nuclear arms negotiations
Posted by: willow at May 05, 2015 01:27 PM (nqBYe)

You've seen it., It is just being played out in Iran and not Russia

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 05, 2015 01:28 PM (rDqRv)

349 Knowing Wyden, I doubt he was behind the targeting of conservatives by the IRS. He's a lefty fool, but a generally good hearted guy who would be very opposed to the idea of abuse of power to lean on someone for any reason. He very likely was upset at finding out what the IRS was doing and told them to flag any possible cases of this to stop it, and that's the connection, but not the guy behind making it happen.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 05, 2015 01:28 PM (39g3+)

350 Yea, Bush needs to be in jail for lying to our Presdent of Color !!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at May 05, 2015 01:28 PM (Sd++4)

351 Yea, Bush needs to be in jail for lying to our Presdent of Color !!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at May 05, 2015 01:28 PM (Sd++4)

352 Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) rogue bioethicst at May 05, 2015 01:27 PM (HDwDg)

Well we have laws that supposedly protect tax payer information from politicians. As in, no one outside the IRS is supposed to see your tax info.

Of course, the IRS interprets those laws as meaning that they do not have to turn over any documents to the public in order to "protect tax payer info"

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 01:29 PM (AkOaV)

353 Regardless of why Whedon ultimately quit, the harassment from feminists for not sufficiently adhering to their preferred feminine narratives illustrates a broader trend on the Internet: the old 'anonymity breeds sociopathy' trope.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 05, 2015 01:21 PM (fWAjv)

**************************

I avoid his crap. Didn't he make Buffy the Vampire Slayer a lesbian? Still, nice to see the lefties are shooting their own. They've run out of victims on the right, but the bloodlust continues.

Posted by: Al Sharpton at May 05, 2015 01:29 PM (xkSSa)

354 Heck I was fairly average, but if you bummed around you could find people who remember me from undergrad.
Posted by: tsrblke
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In my case, the response would be, "What has that asshole done now?"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2015 01:29 PM (n6Nt0)

355 Yeah. Got an email from a 'friend', with whom I had lunch earlier, explaining that his wallet had been stolen in Scotland, and he needed money.
Posted by: Mike Hammer


I can help! However, my bank can only wire money to Moscow. If he can get there, I can help.

Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 05, 2015 01:29 PM (YlaKl)

356 313 Root says that neither he nor anyone no one at his 30 year reunion in 2013 remembers Obama. BHO did not attend the reunion, of course.

A police officer shot a black man at that reunion, and there are credible reports of cannibalism at the after party!

Posted by: Shemp Smith, with a Faux News Alert at May 05, 2015 01:29 PM (hKyl0)

357 Nevergiveup, well sure. But I'd actually like to see the thesis.
He recieved an A .. so i imagine Baron likes this type of secret negotiations that put the world at risk.
but especially ally's and us.

fellow traveler maybe.

Posted by: willow at May 05, 2015 01:30 PM (nqBYe)

358 Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 05, 2015 01:28 PM (39g3+)

I don't know. Wyden is against drone strikes and pro-privacy, but he's still a politician at the end of the day. And a progressive Democrat...

so...

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 01:30 PM (AkOaV)

359 Do they speak English in Color?

Posted by: kartoffel at May 05, 2015 01:30 PM (uEmgg)

360 People need to go to jail.
--
Dinesh D'souza did.

Posted by: Costanza Defense at May 05, 2015 01:30 PM (ZPrif)

361 Even Snopes admits that Root's article shows that Obama did nothing to stand out at Columbia. He was at best average (and at worse below average.)

Root overplays his hand I think, but it's still troublesome for the man who cultivates his image as a "light bringer" to be revealed as someone who left no impression on anyone in college.

Heck I was fairly average, but if you bummed around you could find people who remember me from undergrad.
Posted by: tsrblke, PhD(c) rogue bioethicst at May 05, 2015 01:25 PM (HDwDg)



I brought it up mainly because I wasn't sure if Root was the guy who wrote that article and it's way easier to Horde source things.

IIRC, Root's article was careful to note that Root wasn't denying that Obama went to Columbia, it was just noting that people who went there with him didn't remember him and didn't particularly brag about going there with him.

I knew someone who was at Princeton when Brooke Shields was there. He had a great t-shirt "Yes, I go to Princeton. No, I don't know her."

Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 05, 2015 01:31 PM (mf5HN)

362 Well I do know how The Southern Poverty Law Center has gained the authority almost unquestioned to make these declarations- do they even have a appeals process?

What the media does now is they just use the shorthand "the Southern Poverty Law Center has declared them a hate group " and the media doesn't have to offer specific proof. That's very hard to defend yourself against.

Posted by: River Guide at May 05, 2015 01:31 PM (RJMhd)

363 Dinesh D'souza did.
Posted by: Costanza Defense at May 05, 2015 01:30 PM (ZPrif)

Yeah, what the hell was HE thinking?

He made a movie critical of Obama, then proceeded to break campaign laws? Did he not think the spot light would be on him?

I would be walking on legal eggshells if I were him.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 01:32 PM (AkOaV)

364 Posted by: River Guide at May 05, 2015 01:31 PM (RJMhd)

Nope, no appeals process.

They're hardcore marxists.

And yes, the media AND the FBI / law enforcement use SPLC ratings and declarations of who is a "hate group" as gospel.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 01:33 PM (AkOaV)

365 Soona

Jesus gawd good point.

Posted by: River Guide at May 05, 2015 01:33 PM (RJMhd)

366 Snopes? Really? Snopes?

I can't post the quote here but google Wayne Allen Root and Professor Graff.

Legendary Columbia University Professor Claims That None of His Colleagues Remember Obama

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at May 05, 2015 01:34 PM (bG5Iy)

367

There is also no proof that JEF became President*.




*legitimately

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 05, 2015 01:34 PM (IXrOn)

368 #281, look up up the concept of leaderless resistance.

#293, refer to my #234 above.

Posted by: SGT Dan's Cat at May 05, 2015 01:35 PM (h3U2l)

369 362 Well I do know how The Southern Poverty Law Center has gained the authority almost unquestioned to make these declarations- do they even have a appeals process?

When I worked at a private Girls school,the library there had a subscription to a rag they put out. Read it and deep sixed every copy from then on. Librarian asked about it and I said We never received it.... Threw every copy that came away and the Librarian finally cancelled the subscription...

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at May 05, 2015 01:35 PM (Bn6aD)

370 I own a small business, and I am scared to death to publicly voice my political views.

I do not use my real name to sign up for any political groups, nor do I associate publicly with any of them.

Do you think google's push for your real names on Youtub, or Google+ during the last election cycle was just a coincidence?

Next time really read your TOS on an app that your download. You will see why the NSA/DHS no longer need search warrants.

Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at May 05, 2015 01:35 PM (VNgld)

371 The snopes.com website was founded by Barbara and David Mikkelson, who live and work in the Los Angeles area.

Two leftist in CA. That is snopes.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at May 05, 2015 01:35 PM (bG5Iy)

372 >>People need to go to jail.

YES


Root was the one who wrote the "Ghost of Columbia" article during the 2088 election cycle - about how he and none of his classmates remember Obama, even those who had the same major.

Yeah, politically motivated.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2015 01:35 PM (2TN4k)

373 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at May 05, 2015 01:36 PM (kff5f)

374 Burn it down.
Scatter the stones.
Salt the earth where it stood.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at May 05, 2015 01:36 PM (kff5f)

375 >>>I'd love to see That thesis on Russian Nuclear arms negotiations<<<

I fancy the gist is, let your Secretary of State sell your Uranium resources to your frenemies at a premium for future political favors.

Posted by: Fritz at May 05, 2015 01:38 PM (ty633)

376 as i said i do not really trust snopes I believe a couple of years ago i found an Obvious lie and i put it in my bookmarks at the time , however i lost that computer . If only i could remember what the premise was and could refind it.

Posted by: willow at May 05, 2015 01:38 PM (nqBYe)

377 IIRC, Root's article was careful to note that Root wasn't denying that Obama went to Columbia, it was just noting that people who went there with him didn't remember him and didn't particularly brag about going there with him.

Posted by: alexthechick - Oh please intervene SMOD at May 05, 2015 01:31 PM (mf5HN)

Root says that the political science class contained around 700 persons, but none who attended the reunion had any memory of Obama-- would stand out at Columbia back then for his name, race(s) and ethnic background.

Root also says that the main P.S. professor there during his time (still living; really old but with no memory problems) has no memory of BHO either. This same professor remembers all of his other famous former students.

Posted by: baldilocks at May 05, 2015 01:38 PM (w5lP3)

378 Root was the one who wrote the "Ghost of Columbia" article during the 2088 election cycle - about how he and none of his classmates remember Obama, even those who had the same major.Yeah, politically motivated.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2015 01:35 PM (2TN4k)


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You've been cruising around in Ace's time machine that he totally doesn't have, haven't you?

Posted by: Soona at May 05, 2015 01:38 PM (/HX7u)

379 What the media does now is they just use the shorthand "the Southern Poverty Law Center has declared them a hate group " and the media doesn't have to offer specific proof. That's very hard to defend yourself against.
Posted by: River Guide
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Not even that. They simply say something like, "Trackers of extremists groups report that...."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2015 01:38 PM (n6Nt0)

380 but 4 others said he was there.

so at this point ...

Posted by: willow at May 05, 2015 01:38 PM (nqBYe)

381 Wow. Usually a douche but bravo Geraldo Rivera.


NYPD Officer Brian Moore has died. Shot in the face by a violent predatory piece of shit. Doesn't his life matter? No Justice No Peace?

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 05, 2015 01:39 PM (fWAjv)

382 Posted by: Jacob's Step Stool at May 05, 2015 01:35 PM (VNgld)

Yep.

Publicly, I'm pretty quiet about politics too.

And I do my best to keep my name off any lists.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 01:39 PM (AkOaV)

383 I can't post the quote here but google Wayne Allen Root and Professor Graff.

Legendary Columbia University Professor Claims That None of His Colleagues Remember Obama
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at May 05, 2015 01:34 PM (bG5Iy)

That's the old professor I mentioned.

Posted by: baldilocks at May 05, 2015 01:39 PM (w5lP3)

384 It continues: FCC needs to tamp down Drudge ( Brietbart) Corrupt top to bottom inside out. Before long AoS.



I'm surprised this is even still here. The FCC and the FEC will surely quiet Ace shortly. Say a cease and desist order with no talk provisions like a Wisconsin John Doe raid. When we start getting 404 errors for www.ace.mu.nu we'll all know what happened.


Posted by: An Observation at May 05, 2015 01:39 PM (j6ras)

385 damn,

That officer was only 25.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at May 05, 2015 01:39 PM (OsWis)

386 I guess we know why Lerner's email will never be "found/recovered" - must be a lot of fingerprints on this entire operation.

Sen. Ron Wyden - WTF is he doing reviewing a private citizen's tax records?????

Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2015 01:40 PM (2TN4k)

387 Hey willow.

Hey baldilocks : )

Posted by: SMFH at it all at May 05, 2015 01:40 PM (OsWis)

388 yeah unfortunately my spouse signed onto a tea party list , he gets notices all the time. and of course i talk here.
so nothing much can be done now. LOL

Posted by: willow at May 05, 2015 01:40 PM (nqBYe)

389 Posted by: willow at May 05, 2015 01:38 PM (nqBYe)

Yeah I mean, he was at Colombia.

There's no reason to argue about this at THIS point.

Just like the people arguing about the Hawaii birth certificate.

I don't know, I'm not a forgery expert. All I do know is that who cares? It doesn't matter at this point. And occams razor would suggest that Obama was born in Hawaii like he said he was.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 01:40 PM (AkOaV)

390 Sen. Ron Wyden - WTF is he doing reviewing a private citizen's tax records?????

How about Harry Reed and Romney' s taxes?

Posted by: hello, it's Me Donna ....again at May 05, 2015 01:40 PM (Bn6aD)

391 374

See #328.

Posted by: chi's sandwIch (previously shredded chi) at May 05, 2015 01:41 PM (ZjzCZ)

392 SMFH, always nice to see your nic. hug

Posted by: willow at May 05, 2015 01:41 PM (nqBYe)

393 born in Hawaii...ok.

daddy not being a certain commie pervert...doubtful.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at May 05, 2015 01:41 PM (OsWis)

394 Nobody will go to jail. Liberals have conquered us because republicans are liberals themselves. Nobody will ever stand up to them. When someone does, they are destroyed and then our idiot conservative movement says they are too "damaged" so we should just move on. Don't you know this yet?

Posted by: Dan at May 05, 2015 01:41 PM (COpZ4)

395 Jail? We'll be lucky if they get the tickle chair.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at May 05, 2015 01:42 PM (kff5f)

396 Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2015 01:40 PM (2TN4k)

I don't know. WTF was John McCain doing emailing the IRS tax exempt staff demanding they crack down on 501c3's (especially those related to people primarying Republicans)?

They all work together to fuck us over.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 01:42 PM (AkOaV)

397 heya chi : )

Posted by: SMFH at it all at May 05, 2015 01:42 PM (OsWis)

398 I guess we know why Lerner's email will never be "found/recovered" - must be a lot of fingerprints on this entire operation.

Sen. Ron Wyden - WTF is he doing reviewing a private citizen's tax records?????
Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2015 01:40 PM (2TN4k)



and we can't call that email list of named names a blacklist either

because, racist

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 05, 2015 01:42 PM (IXrOn)

399 I never liked much about SPLC either, River Guide. Just wanted to remind people about some of their preferences/practices and how it inspired one nutjob to attempt mass murder. I looked again at the Family Research Council shooting again and it was in August 2012, not 2013.

Posted by: Rex B at May 05, 2015 01:42 PM (OXzvH)

400 mynewhandle, i'm only expounding on my own confusion with this.

sorry.

Posted by: willow at May 05, 2015 01:42 PM (nqBYe)

401 "like he said he was."

Sometimes. When not trying to pimp his book.

Posted by: Lauren at May 05, 2015 01:42 PM (MYCIw)

402 Posted by: SMFH at it all at May 05, 2015 01:41 PM (OsWis)

again, doesn't matter at this point.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 01:42 PM (AkOaV)

403 Mynewhandle

FBI considers them the ultimate authority too,ugh.

Didn't know that.

Posted by: River Guide at May 05, 2015 01:43 PM (RJMhd)

404 Posted by: chi's sandwIch (previously shredded chi) at May 05, 2015 01:41 PM (ZjzCZ)

Yes, the IRS is a good "it" to burn, scatter, and salt.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at May 05, 2015 01:43 PM (kff5f)

405 I am sorry, but there is no "there" there.

At most this is an "Critics SAY the IRS Targeted Dangerous Right Wing Nut Job to Ensure the Security of Americans."

If anyone's actions are questionable here, they are Mr. Root's efforts to clear his name.

How unpatriotic can you be?

Posted by: M.S. Media at May 05, 2015 01:44 PM (HqpV0)

406 Posted by: Lauren at May 05, 2015 01:42 PM (MYCIw)

Heh, well.... Yes, that was a bit awkward for the narrative that only racist haters would suggest obama was born in kenya... when even obama himself used that when he was trying to sell a book.

But, again... whatever. We're 6 years in to his presidency, it doesnt matter where he was born at this point.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 01:44 PM (AkOaV)

407 I believe recently i saw SPLC took Nation of Islam off their list.

That was rather amazing .

Posted by: willow at May 05, 2015 01:44 PM (nqBYe)

408 397
Hi, darlin'.
Beautiful day.
Wish you were here.

Posted by: chi's sandwIch (previously shredded chi) at May 05, 2015 01:45 PM (ZjzCZ)

409 >>How about Harry Reed and Romney' s taxes?

Do we have proof that Reid accessed them?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2015 01:45 PM (2TN4k)

410 Graff:

"I taught at Columbia for 46 years. I taught every significant American politician that ever studied at Columbia. I know them all. I'm proud of them all. Between American History and Diplomatic History, one way or another, they all had to come through my classes. Not Obama. I never had a student with that name in any of my classes. I never met him, never saw him, never heard of him."

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at May 05, 2015 01:45 PM (bG5Iy)

411 'through the worm hole' show strongly suggests there are differences between conservatives and liberals. Liberals use the logic part of their brain for politics and conservatives use the fight/flight/fear part of their brain.

It is science now.

Posted by: just bob at May 05, 2015 01:46 PM (wkuqO)

412 407 I believe recently i saw SPLC took Nation of Islam off their list.

That was rather amazing .
Posted by: willow at May 05, 2015 01:44 PM (nqBYe)

Still there. Which I was surprised to see.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 05, 2015 01:46 PM (fWAjv)

413 It would be a good starting point, anyway, Allen...

Posted by: chi's sandwIch (previously shredded chi) at May 05, 2015 01:46 PM (ZjzCZ)

414 Posted by: willow at May 05, 2015 01:44 PM (nqBYe)

If by "rather amazing" you mean "totally predictable."

The SPLC is one of the most racist groups currently operating in the United States.

Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) - TrueCon at May 05, 2015 01:46 PM (kff5f)

415 Govt has my DNA and prints on file, so I'm not all that concerned about my email or FB account.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at May 05, 2015 01:46 PM (OsWis)

416 Rep. Elijah Cummings also sent two harassing letters to True the Vote re: their tax status on his official Congressional letterhead.

Funny the MSM never picked that one up and inquired what business it was of his how TtV operated.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2015 01:46 PM (2TN4k)

417 Posted by: River Guide at May 05, 2015 01:43 PM (RJMhd)

oh yeah.

Which is why when the DHS and DOJ say "right wing extremists" are the biggest national security threat and you have Obama and the "experts" at the SPLC calling *us* and our beliefs "extremists" and our "issue groups" are considered "hate groups" ... well...

and combine that with the fact that Obama and others talk about "extremism" and "terrorism" as huge threats, yet will never once name "Islam"

Plus the FBI removed all mention of "islam" from their training manuals a few years back...

and yeah, who do you think they're talking about / targeting with all of these anti-terrorism laws?

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 01:46 PM (AkOaV)

418 Posted by: willow at May 05, 2015 01:44 PM (nqBYe)

I was just on their web page. It's still there along with the New Black Panthers and several Christian and catholic groups.

Posted by: wrg500 at May 05, 2015 01:46 PM (S+el1)

419 "We're 6 years in to his presidency, it doesnt matter where he was born at this point."

It matters.

Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at May 05, 2015 01:47 PM (bG5Iy)

420 we KNOW Lois used her position to target conservative groups.

We know Obama himself openly encouraged targeting of Koch Brothers.

our Party knows this yet Nothing has happened to protect our interestsas free political citizens.

Posted by: willow at May 05, 2015 01:47 PM (nqBYe)

421 Govt has my DNA and prints on file, so I'm not all that concerned about my email or FB account.
Posted by: SMFH at it all at May 05, 2015 01:46 PM (OsWis)

They have the right to seize my computers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 05, 2015 01:47 PM (rDqRv)

422 This merits a follow-up.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 05, 2015 01:25 PM (n6Nt0)
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I have no idea how to determine if the audit is related to the Magpul concert.By the way, Dana Loesch's husband Chris has a lovely voice. IIRC, he sang the national anthem for the event.

Posted by: Mindy at May 05, 2015 01:47 PM (G7qet)

423 408,

So do I.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at May 05, 2015 01:47 PM (OsWis)

424 Rex B well thanks for posting that.

If the SPLC is going to pass judgments that get people shot maybe there should at least be an appeals process.

It's actually ridiculous to think that is about the best we can holy for in the liberal media environment.

Posted by: River Guide at May 05, 2015 01:48 PM (RJMhd)

425 "and yeah, who do you think they're talking about / targeting with all of these anti-terrorism laws?"

The Ladies Republican Society of Bell County.

Posted by: Lauren at May 05, 2015 01:48 PM (MYCIw)

426 Posted by: just bob at May 05, 2015 01:46 PM (wkuqO)

Makes sense.

Us dummies with our stupid lizard brains just can't keep up with progressive geniuses like Joe Biden or Hank Johnson

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 01:48 PM (AkOaV)

427 I avoid his crap. Didn't he make Buffy the Vampire Slayer a lesbian?


No, her sidekick Willow Rosenberg was the lesbian, Buffy was straight.

Posted by: An Observation at May 05, 2015 01:49 PM (j6ras)

428 Holy should read hope- don't know how my phone came out with that one.

Posted by: River Guide at May 05, 2015 01:49 PM (RJMhd)

429
338 Why doesn't the IRS just use this?
I just got this from some scammer purporting to be my friend who doesn't know my name and has an aol address instead of their actual e-maily :

How are you,

Sorry for any inconvenience, I'm in a terrible situation. Am stranded here in Manila, Philippines since last night. I was hurt and robbed on my way to the hotel I stayed and my luggage is still in custody of the hotel management pending when I make payment on outstanding bills I owe. Am waiting for my colleagues to send me money to get back home but they have not responded and my return flight will be leaving soon. Please let me know if you can help and I will refund the money back to you as soon as I get back home.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 05, 2015 01:24 PM (MeuoO)
My wife was apparently robbed while she was in the Ukraine.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 05, 2015 01:49 PM (xNkaN)

430 Nevergiveup,

Yeah, that does suck.

Posted by: SMFH at it all at May 05, 2015 01:49 PM (OsWis)

431 >>Not Obama. I never had a student with that name in any of my classes. I never met him, never saw him, never heard of him.

What's funny is that one of Obama's law school classmates also wrote about their time together at Harvard and she said he was known as such as gasbag pontificater in class that they had a jokey Obama scale they used to measure other students' long-winded answers against him.

Yeah, a professor would remember that kind of student, eh?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2015 01:49 PM (2TN4k)

432 I think it was teh DOJ who removed the MB from the terrorist list.

Posted by: Lauren at May 05, 2015 01:49 PM (MYCIw)

433 wrg5oo ack, now i am confused so i bingd and got
http://www.bing.com/search?q=SPLC+takes+nation+of+islam+off+list&form=OPRTSD&pc=OPER

i hate that, so now i have to read all those links and find the problem with my initial thingy

Posted by: willow at May 05, 2015 01:50 PM (nqBYe)

434 Well, it's certainly a good thing that Hillary! is nearly in office

Posted by: Todd Bridges, first to go bad, last to go down at May 05, 2015 01:50 PM (3yfGn)

435 Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2015 01:45 PM (2TN4k)

No, Reid never accessed anyones taxes. He just slandered Romney from the Senate floor, since congress can say whatever they want on the House or Senate floor and it cannot be used against them in a lawsuit.

So Boehner could go out and say, "I have credible information that Harry Reid diddles boys" where as if the NYPost printed that, they could be open to a lawsuit.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 01:50 PM (AkOaV)

436 The SPLC is one of the most racist groups currently operating in the United States.

They fit all their own criteria for a "hate group."

Posted by: HR braucht ein Bier at May 05, 2015 01:50 PM (ZKzrr)

437 Pssst....GOP....maybe you should shut the fuck up about Benghazi and spend the time looking into this instead.

Pass it on....

Posted by: HUCK / AKIN 2016 at May 05, 2015 01:52 PM (0LHZx)

438 Posted by: Lauren at May 05, 2015 01:48 PM (MYCIw)

Yeah, I mean it seems silly, but...

We're definitely moving in that direction.

5-10 years ago, this stuff was funny to me.

In the last several years, it's dawned on me that the left isn't just being assholes, they're actually serious.

As in, 50% of the country, 100% of the media, and a large per centage of law enforcement thinks *I'm* a national security threat just based on my political beliefs.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 01:52 PM (AkOaV)

439 looks like Pamela geller, and robert spencer also believe they were taken off list


i dunno
i don't usually read their sites.

Posted by: willow at May 05, 2015 01:53 PM (nqBYe)

440 Not Obama. I never had a student with that name in any of my classes. I never met him, never saw him, never heard of him."
Posted by: Misfortune & Pestilence at May 05, 2015 01:45 PM (bG5Iy)
*****************************

We should all be so lucky.

Posted by: Al Sharpton at May 05, 2015 01:53 PM (xkSSa)

441 I figured that, RG. On a more positive note, there is a new Chick-fil-A out my way. Whoopie! - The FRC shooter was carrying 15 of their sandwiches to I suppose bluff his way in to do his shooting.

Posted by: Rex B at May 05, 2015 01:53 PM (OXzvH)

442 >>People need to go to jail.

we're gonna need more lampposts.

Posted by: X at May 05, 2015 01:54 PM (n5fTN)

443 >>In the last several years, it's dawned on me that the left isn't just being assholes, they're actually serious.


Yeah, that stockpiling billions of rounds of ammo and creating SWAT teams for the Dept. of Ed is not so funny. Not when they descend upon a Nevada cattle rancher for overdue grazing fees as if he's a cartel kingpin.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2015 01:55 PM (2TN4k)

444 The FRC shooter was carrying 15 of their sandwiches to I suppose bluff his way in to do his shooting.
Posted by: Rex B at May 05, 2015 01:53 PM (OXzvH)

He said he brought the "hate sandwiches" in to smear it on the faces of the corpses after he killed everyone.

Luckily a security guard took the guy down (guard got shot in the arm in the process) before it went that far.

Personally, I would have bought 15 chick fil a sandwiches, but probably showed up with only like 12. I'd be a horrible terrorist.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 01:55 PM (AkOaV)

445 The FRC shooter had those sammichs to smash into the faces of the "haters" he shot, if my memory serves correct.

Nice guy.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 05, 2015 01:55 PM (XmOA9)

446 "he FRC shooter was carrying 15 of their sandwiches to I suppose bluff his way in to do his shooting."

Oh you don't remember? That was the "best" part of his plan. He was going to shoot everyone and then stuff the sandwiches in their mouths.

Because, hate.

And yeah, mynewhandle, it really has gotten insane lately. They consider us the biggest threat. How they come to that conclusion while knowing Turtle and Orange escapes me, however.

Posted by: Lauren at May 05, 2015 01:56 PM (MYCIw)

447 bl, have to shower

Posted by: willow at May 05, 2015 01:56 PM (nqBYe)

448 Posted by: Lizzy at May 05, 2015 01:55 PM (2TN4k)

Yeah. Lots of ammo.

And going after a guy because his cattle was eating the Kings Weeds in the Kings Shitty Unpopulated Desert...

Heh.

Also, new BLM standoff brewing in Oregon at a gold mine right now if you weren't following. These people seem to have a legit legal case though, unlike Bundy.

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 01:56 PM (AkOaV)

449 This is just depressing. The leftists have made the personal political, and are using the force of government to punish people for having the wrong personal views.

Just wait, soon you will be audited if you dare to give only one star to an episode of Glee on Netflix.

Posted by: wooga at May 05, 2015 01:57 PM (sO+ca)

450 Personally, I would have bought 15 chick fil a sandwiches, but probably showed up with only like 12. I'd be a horrible terrorist.
Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 01:55 PM (AkOaV)



Exactly.

Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 05, 2015 01:57 PM (fWAjv)

451 Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 01:55

Well, it we aren't right, we are misremembering wrong together. Said Yogi Berra, or sumdood.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 05, 2015 01:58 PM (XmOA9)

452 Thanks for the info, all. Might be time to send a Chick-fil-A sand, to SPLC.

Posted by: Rex B at May 05, 2015 01:58 PM (OXzvH)

453 bl, have to shower

Posted by: willow at May 05, 2015 01:56 PM (nqBYe)


Remember to turn your web cam on

Posted by: wrg500 at May 05, 2015 01:58 PM (S+el1)

454 bl, have to shower
Posted by: willow


Bob at NSA, GET THOSE CAMERAS ON NOW!

Posted by: rickb223 Straight, Conservative Clinger at May 05, 2015 01:58 PM (YlaKl)

455
Trey Gowdy sure did ask a couple of tough questions, though, didn't he. Damn that was satisfying.

Yeah.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 05, 2015 01:58 PM (Ng9V+)

456 I just got this from some scammer purporting to be my friend who doesn't
know my name and has an aol address instead of their actual e-maily :



How are you,



Sorry for any inconvenience, I'm in a terrible situation. Am
stranded here in Manila, Philippines since last night. I was hurt and
robbed on my way to the hotel I stayed and my luggage is still in
custody of the hotel management pending when I make payment on
outstanding bills I owe. Am waiting for my colleagues to send me money
to get back home but they have not responded and my return flight will
be leaving soon. Please let me know if you can help and I will refund
the money back to you as soon as I get back home.

long story short: got this letter from the name of a sworn enemy with a bogus aol account as well...i knew it was a scam but i replied i was glad....couldn't have happened to a nicer guy......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 05, 2015 01:58 PM (0O7c5)

457 Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at May 05, 2015 01:57 PM (fWAjv)

I mean how does someone walk around with 15 chick fil a chicken sandwiches in his backpack and not get at least *tempted* to eat one or two of them?

Posted by: mynewhandle at May 05, 2015 01:59 PM (AkOaV)

458 Nood. With extra italics.

Posted by: johnd01 at May 05, 2015 01:59 PM (ukNFU)

459 Ever feel like you're standing on the edge of the pit at Babi Yar, waiting for the bullet?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 05, 2015 02:01 PM (zF6Iw)

460 Gun control was defeated. When the marine was made to stand in the rain with an umbrella holding an umbrella over the President, then a little later the President flying his dog solo on the Osprey I was relieved. Those actions were sure signs to me that the military was not going to do what Obama wanted done. Obama was telling them to F off. So there is hope. Another year and a half of crap though.

Posted by: Jack Hagan at May 05, 2015 02:03 PM (U1iMh)

461 Normally, I would agree that the administration should be held accountable for all of this lawbreaking. But, in this case, we have a non-evil white oppressor president. Some things are more important than justice.

Posted by: Old Hob at May 05, 2015 02:05 PM (/6hbU)

462 Root also says that the main P.S. professor there during his time (still living; really old but with no memory problems) has no memory of BHO either. This same professor remembers all of his other famous former students.

I think President Obama went to Columbia, but he probably didn't attend class much.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at May 05, 2015 02:07 PM (39g3+)

463 "People need to go to jail."


No. We are way beyond that now.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at May 05, 2015 02:12 PM (bc2w4)

464 "People need to go to jail.
Posted by Ace at 11:50 AM"

Close, ace. They. Need. To. Be. EXILED.

Coming off your most recent post about Pam Gellar, the only way this stuff stops is two things: all-out civil war with shooting and killing or exiling ALL of these despicable Marxists out of the country.

Posted by: ICBMMan at May 05, 2015 02:27 PM (zCVYv)

465
459 Ever feel like you're standing on the edge of the pit at Babi Yar, waiting for the bullet?

NO, because I'll fight dammit, and a hell of a lot sooner than the point where I lead my family by the hand to the train station as ordered.

Posted by: Todd Bridges, first to go bad, last to go down at May 05, 2015 02:28 PM (3yfGn)

466 464,

Better chance of shooting than an exile.

Most of the left's foot soldiers who actually have guns don't seem to know that the sights are on top for a reason.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at May 05, 2015 02:46 PM (ECUyd)

467 The people getting on Geller are doing so for one reason:

She has courage and they don't.

Posted by: Banned From LGF at May 05, 2015 02:47 PM (1Y+hH)

468 Of the two Democrat Senators from Oregon, Wyden is the least partisan and the one most likely to go against the grain of what Obama wants. Merkley, on the other hand, is a partisan hack and a tool. I'm going with Merkley, at least for now.

Posted by: Random Thought Generator at May 05, 2015 05:37 PM (wLLbf)

469 But, that doesn't let Wyden completely off the hook. Wyden graduated from the University of Oregon Law School. He never could pass the Oregon bar exam (he failed it 3 times). Some years ago he was asked by an Oregon newspaper three questions: What is the price of a dozen eggs? Who is the largest employer in the State of Oregon? And, he was asked to locate Bosnia on a world map. He was nowhere close on any of these.

Posted by: Random Thought Generator at May 05, 2015 05:43 PM (wLLbf)

470 "People need to go to jail."

I'm so tired of comments like this. Obviously, nobody is going to jail. Comments like this betray a totally unwarranted hope in the system. On top of that, a lot of republican voters that say stuff like this never vote in primaries for the guys that want to abolish the IRS like Steve Forbes and Ron Paul. You turned out in droves to give McConnell and Boehner more power. You're all idiots that vote for socialists called republicans that insult you to your face. You were warned. It's too late. The IRS decides elections now, which mean jack shit anyway, because you supported collaborators.

Posted by: Harvey at May 05, 2015 06:21 PM (5yNiz)

471 It is outrageous to think that a government agency could be used to oppress members of an opposition party. That being said, it is also an outrageous fantasy to think that anything will be done about it. Why? Because if anyone were able to get in there and do some serious digging it would probably be evident that there Republicans involved in this scandal as well. Both parties LIKE this because they know that at some point they will be able to use it against there "enemies," too.

The machinery is in place, and this corruption will continue regardless of the party in control of the executive branch. If the grassroots on the right or left should rear their ugly heads, both parties will use the full force of the government to squash their influence AND reach. We, the people, right and left, have no representatives in our government. There is only the establishment, right and left.

Posted by: Midget Magpie at May 05, 2015 11:37 PM (2/oBD)

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