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Daily Tech News 13 August 2023

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  • Some of the Hololive EN streamers have an expression: One guyed.

    It's when they're playing a game or trying to solve a technical issue and ask chat for help, and get a prompt and authoritative answer from one guy among the thousands watching that turns out to be completely wrong.

    ChatGPT is that one guy. (The Register)

    Taking a look at ChatGPT answers to Stack Overflow questions - a devil's brew of epistemic closure if I ever saw one - researchers found that ChatGPT had no better than a 50% chance of being correct, and for the best and most authoritative answers - the ones that were accepted by the questioner as definitive - ChatGPT was wrong 77% of the time.

    I've said before that the entire model of ChatGPT is building an artificial arts student, but really it seems to be building an artificial confidence trickster.


Tech News

  • Intel's 14700K has been benchmarked, and is between 5% and 20% faster than the 13700K. (Tom's Hardware)

    5% on single-threaded tasks thanks to a 200MHz speed boost; 20% on multi-threaded tasks thanks to four additional Efficiency cores.

    Nothing groundshaking but if they keep the same price it will be a worthwhile improvement.

    Big changes may be coming at the entry level, with the 14100 rumoured to have six Performance cores, up from four. If true, and if the price again remains the same, that will be a great little chip.


  • Meanwhile on the great big chip front AMD is preparing to release Epyc Siena for low-end servers and Threadripper 7000 Pro for high-end workstations. (Tom's Hardware)

    Siena will support up to 64 cores at a 200W TDP, while the new Threadrippers will offer up to 96 cores at a 350W TDP.

    The two families of chips will share the same SP6 socket, which is the same physical size but a different pin layout as the previous generation of Epyc CPUs.


  • SK Hynix has launched 24GB LPDDR5X-8500 memory... Things. (AnandTech)

    They're not modules in the sense of DIMMs, but each one contains 8 memory chips in a stack, so they're not chips either.

    Anyway, since they're 64 bits wide a laptop would need two of them, giving 48GB of RAM, which is enough even for me.


  • Mediatek's Dimensity 9300 meanwhile supports LPDDR5T-9600 memory, which is one louder. (WCCFTech)

    And has four Cortex X4 cores and four A720 cores - four fast cores and four ultra-fast cores - with no slow cores at all.

    Sounds like a good chip for a laptop, actually. Most phone chips only have one of the Cortex X series cores, which is fine for phone use but not so great in more demanding applications.


  • LPython is a Python compiler... Ish. (LPython)

    It seems to be designed primarily for type-annotated Python code, though it can run unannotated code as well, compiling it into C and thence to native code, rather like Cython.

    But it can also JIT-compile live code, rather like PyPy - or given that it uses decorators to do this, like PyPy's predecessor Psyco.

    And unlike Mojo, you can actually download it and try it out right now.


  • A look inside the Linux kernel. (Seiya)

    The Linux kernel as of version 6.5 is 36 million lines long, too much for any one human to comprehend. So this article doesn't try; it instead looks at Linux 0.01, the first public version, which is only 10,000 lines.


  • How the FBI goes after DDOS attackers. (Tech Crunch)

    Very, very slowly.


  • Dinner tonight was the spécialité de la maison: Satay kangaroo with fried rice.

    Not bad.


Disclaimer: Not great for the kangaroo though.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:00 AM




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1 G'Day everyone

Posted by: Skip at August 13, 2023 04:00 AM (MOY79)

2 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 13, 2023 04:02 AM (7vuhT)

3 G'day Skip

Posted by: Pixy Misa at August 13, 2023 04:02 AM (BLOW1)

4 Pondering do I go see if meteors are still coming down or not?

Posted by: Skip at August 13, 2023 04:02 AM (MOY79)

5 Pondering do I go see if meteors are still coming down or not?

Posted by: Skip at August 13, 2023 04:02 AM (MOY79)

You're going to watch the Perseids shower? Gee, can't they have any privacy?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 13, 2023 04:03 AM (Angsy)

6 Brave has Brave AI as first result in searches. Results can be amusing to fantastically wrong. When I'm feeling altruistic I'll give feedback and tell them their AI is retarded.

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 13, 2023 04:10 AM (7vuhT)

7 Storms cleared out but seems still overcast

Posted by: Skip at August 13, 2023 04:13 AM (MOY79)

8 Thanks for the meteor reminder, Skip. Stepped out on deck and caught 3 of them in under 10 minutes. That's about all my neck could take.

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 13, 2023 04:16 AM (7vuhT)

9 I'm at the lake and it's a beautiful clear night for star and meteor gazing. Wish I had the trampoline from when I was kid. Used to lay on that to stargaze.

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 13, 2023 04:20 AM (7vuhT)

10
I've said before that the entire model of ChatGPT is building an artificial arts student, but really it seems to be building an artificial confidence trickster.

Listening to advertisements on the radio, you'd think that every one of them has embraced the AI "technology" as a core competency of their business. Fvcking lemmings selling snake oil.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 13, 2023 04:22 AM (enJYY)

11 Ooh! LPython looks kinda nifty. Thanks for pointing it out.

I wonder just how bad it does on unannotated code? And how complete its support for the standard library stuff is? And how it compiles high-level stuff like sorts and dictionaries (calling out to a generic library vs. monomorphizing and maybe inlining, etc.)?

Of course I'll stick with good ol' C++ for performance stuff. But Python is so slow it'd be nice to see something that makes it faster.

Posted by: Bitblt at August 13, 2023 04:25 AM (DlCas)

12
I see UPS has embraced AI for inventory control:

9:44 PM Package arrived at a carrier facility.
6:44 PM Package arrived at a carrier facility.
11:19 AM Package left the carrier facility.
9:07 AM Package arrived at a carrier facility.
6:07 AM Package arrived at a carrier facility.
1:01 AM Package left the carrier facility.

Exactly 3 hours apart, twice. What are the odds?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 13, 2023 04:26 AM (enJYY)

13
Oops, I missed the day before:

11:12 PM Package arrived at a carrier facility.
8:12 PM Package arrived at a carrier facility.

Once again exactly 3 hours apart. Interesting algorithm.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 13, 2023 04:29 AM (enJYY)

14 Alright, fess up. Who fetched the otters?

https://tinyurl.com/2xxavck8

(Nitter)

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 13, 2023 04:40 AM (adINt)

15 How the FBI goes after DDOS attackers. (Tech Crunch)

Very, very slowly.



Well, it's probably the FBI doing it.

Mornin' nerdz!!

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at August 13, 2023 04:44 AM (fWTJL)

16 14 Alright, fess up. Who fetched the otters?

https://tinyurl.com/2xxavck8

(Nitter)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 13, 2023 04:40 AM (adINt)

Whoa, content warning! For otter violence.
I thought it was going to be all cute and fuzzy.

Posted by: m at August 13, 2023 04:48 AM (ASp1y)

17 ... and it was NOT all cute and fuzzy.

Posted by: m at August 13, 2023 04:49 AM (ASp1y)

18 hiya

Posted by: JT at August 13, 2023 05:31 AM (T4tVD)

19 Let's investigate where all the trans hate is coming from. Try to not laugh:

https://tinyurl.com/4m6nfwzh

(Nitter)

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 13, 2023 05:34 AM (adINt)

20 BRING OUT YOUR DEAD!

https://tinyurl.com/5n8y6hej

(Nitter)

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 13, 2023 05:50 AM (adINt)

21 But let's make AI the basis for everything!

People (and I mean this both historically and currently) are fucking stupid.

Well, let me take that back. Societies on the edge of survival are often on the straight and narrow- because of the lack of error. They emphasize duty, honor, doing things the right way, brutal discipline amongst the people assigned to protect them. THAT is the only way a society survives when they are on the edge. There is no room for tomfoolery.

Then, they start getting breathing space. And the tomfoolery starts creeping in.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 13, 2023 05:50 AM (zZu0s)

22 Was going to get up a hour ago as was just cat napping and then really fell asleep

Posted by: Skip at August 13, 2023 05:51 AM (MOY79)

23 Massive thunderstorm came thru about 230am. Lighting flickered like a strobe light but was not very noisy. Quiet and cool now.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at August 13, 2023 05:52 AM (Eeb9P)

24 19 Let's investigate where all the trans hate is coming from. Try to not laugh:

https://tinyurl.com/4m6nfwzh

(Nitter)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 13, 2023 05:34 AM (adINt)

Maybe because they are psychopaths who want to fuck kids? Maybe it's that? They are evangelizing psychopaths.

I don't want to get too crazy on a Sunday morning.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 13, 2023 05:52 AM (zZu0s)

25 Morning, Tech Peeps

Posted by: fluffy: that one guy at August 13, 2023 05:53 AM (86W+h)

26 Whackadoodle said the magic word: internalizes

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at August 13, 2023 05:53 AM (Eeb9P)

27 23 Massive thunderstorm came thru about 230am. Lighting flickered like a strobe light but was not very noisy. Quiet and cool now.
Posted by: Jamaica NYC at August 13, 2023 05:52 AM (Eeb9P)

It's actually been pretty pleasant as far as Kentucky Augusts go. Kind of cool this morning. I'll take it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 13, 2023 05:53 AM (zZu0s)

28 I don't want to get too crazy on a Sunday morning.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 13, 2023 05:52 AM (zZu0s)
-

If you watch it, you'll know that we're OK. Will put a grin on your morning startup.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 13, 2023 05:56 AM (adINt)

29 If you watch it, you'll know that we're OK. Will put a grin on your morning startup.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at August 13, 2023 05:56 AM (adINt)

*fistbump*

When I have a min. Day 10 of 12 hour shifts (and change.) Getting a bit tired.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 13, 2023 06:00 AM (zZu0s)

30 It has been cool and wet here in Queens. Last summer was hot and dry. My lawn survived but my tomatoes are not prolific

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at August 13, 2023 06:00 AM (Eeb9P)

31 KRAK OF DAWN HAS ARRIVED

Now just waiting for coffee

Posted by: Skip at August 13, 2023 06:02 AM (MOY79)

32 How many lines of code is Minx 0.8 beta?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 13, 2023 06:05 AM (geenm)

33 The thing about LLMs is they are pattern matchers. They can produce a pattern that effect i effectively mimics a response, but it does not have any linkage with the content.

So, you can ask it to swear like a sailor and (provided that hasn't been censored out) it will provide a blue haze worthy of any shop channel. And you can ask it to look at a pile of papers and tell you which ones are legal documents and it should get most of them.

But if you ask it to produce a legal reference sheet all it will do is produce a list that looks like a legal sheet should look, created on the spot from its random noise.

Posted by: Voyager at August 13, 2023 06:06 AM (E5/2l)

34 33 The thing about LLMs
Posted by: Voyager at August 13, 2023 06:06 AM (E5/2l)

LLM = large language model
I had to look that up!

Posted by: m at August 13, 2023 07:27 AM (30MvH)

35 Gee, another tech writer screaming about ChatGPT and how bad it is, lolol. Look into a fukn mirror. You millennial tech writers are defective.

Posted by: Fisht at August 13, 2023 08:58 AM (ZRarh)

36 Dinner tonight was the spécialité de la maison: Satay kangaroo with fried rice.

Not bad.


Disclaimer: Not great for the kangaroo though.


You ate Skippy!

Not that the bastard didn't have it coming.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at August 13, 2023 10:57 AM (Bd6X8)

37 >designed primarily for type-annotated Python code

It's entertaining watching web developers and other casuals slowly, painfully realize what the rest of us knew from day one of CS100: you don't write code you care about in a language that isn't statically typed, strongly typed, and compiled.

Posted by: Daniel Ream at August 13, 2023 06:50 PM (/0tPK)

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