Daily Tech News 28 December 2022

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Where does your recycling actually end up? Muzaffarnagar. (Bloomberg)

Gesundheit!

Muzaffarnagar is a paper-making centre in northern India. India recycles 6 million tons of paper and cardboard a year to make new paper products, but that comes with half a million tons of other crap, mostly plastic.

Which they burn.

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HP's Dragonfly Elite Folio G3 is worse in every way than its predecessor from 2019. (Tom's Hardware)

Compared to the Dragonfly Elite G3 (not confusing at all) it's 40% heavier, has a dimmer screen, and battery life is down by five hours.

Not recommended.
Chinese CPU maker Loongson plans to introduce samples of a 32 core model next year. (Tom's Hardware)

They give SPEC 2006 benchmark estimate. Taking those at face value, it's about as fast per core as Intel's Xeon 1240v2 from 2012, which is not bad - for 2012.

In 2023 the 32 core model will be slower than a 12 core Ryzen 7900X, and less than half the speed on single-threaded tasks.

Which is not actually terrible... But not good, either.
Launch prices for MSI's B760 mid-range 13th gen Intel motherboards are cheaper than this year's B660. (WCCFTech)

That's good. Pair one of these soon-to-arrive boards with the soon-to-arrive i5-13500 and you'll have a very capable system for not a huge amount of money.
AMD's non-X Ryzen 7000 chips are reportedly launching on January 10. (WCCFTech)

These will be 65W chips with up to 12 cores. The current 12 core 7900X is rated at 170W, so expect this version to be a little slower. In fact we have a very good idea exactly how much slower because you can configure the 7900X to run a 65W if you want.

The 7900 will also be cheaper, so there's that.
There's an iPad Mini 7 coming in a year or so maybe. (WCCFTech)

Good, because it's the only small high-resolution tablet available outside China. I'm still tempted to buy the Lenovo Y700 - it's not that expensive even from an Australian importer rather than AliExpress - but I'd much rather have an official version and not one where I side-load Google Play.
The world is awash in chips after our betters cratered the global economy. (WSJ)

I'll ask my source about that. Six months ago the rule was if a chip you might need was in stock, buy all you can get because it would be gone tomorrow.

September Flowers Bring Hayfever

On September 1 the CEO of Turkish crypto exchange Thodex who fled the country with $2 billion in customer funds was caught and extradicted and faced 40,000 years in prison, the 7950X was somewhere between moderately and dramatically faster than the 5950X, and the full lineup of Zen 4 server CPUs.
On September 2 planting trees that immediately die solves nothing except for the landscapers' over, USB 4 2.0 could hit 80Gbps, flash memory prices were expected to fall sharply unless manufacturers cut production - so they did, Micron was building a $15 billion factory near Boise, and the Framework laptop came to Australia.
On September 3 Twitter had plans to fight extremism - for example anyone disagreeing with the government, USB 4 2.0 could hit 120Gbps - in one direction, and 6.1" was now a "small" phone.
On September 4 Cloudflare booted Kiwi Farms, Twitter put sensitive content warnings on its sensitive content warnings, and there were zero reviews for Amazon's $500 million Tolkien dumpster fire.
On September 5 the US and Japan signed a joint agreement on nuclear power concluding that yes, it is a thing that exists, LG was bringing NFTs to its smart TVs, and Google received DMCA takedown notices for the White House, the FBI, and the Vatican.
On September 6 we played with AI art - specifically Midjourney, QNAP AGAIN, email was broken, and the chess player who wore computer shoes.
On September 7 how Cloudflare got KiwiFarms wrong (spoiler: by being unprincipled weasels), new old Ryzen chips arrived, and a 23 year old denial of service bug was fixed in Curl.
On September 8 Twitter was flooded with bots, it was time to toss your Cisco router out the window, and performance of the new Ryzen desktop CPUs' intergrated graphics was not terrible.
On September 9 why Apple doesn't support standard text messaging, yet another Python compiler, and http://http://http://@http://http://?http://#http://.
On September 10 if you open this door a magpie will poop on your carpet, it was the perfect time to not buy a graphics card, Winamp 5.9 was here, AMD laptops really were more energy efficient than Intel, and Intel started construction on what will eventually be a $100 billion factory complex in Ohio.
On September 11 nobody knows how many books are published each year but 15% sell fewer than 12 copies, WiFi 7 was coming, and get ready to switch browsers if you want functional ad blocking.
On September 12 how to build a Greek temple, there will be a 6GHz Intel CPU at some point, working towards 2nm chips, and Coinbase funded the defense of the Tornado open-source cryptomixer against the US treasury department.
On September 13 cockatoos discovered fire, the 13700T could be fast, I cared if it scaled, and Quad9 continued to fight Sony.
On September 14 whistleblower Peiter Zatko pointed out that Twitter was run by idiots and infested with spies, six "research firms" were coincidentally paying big money for dirty on some guy named Peiter Zatko, Godel, Escher, Bach, China accused US spy agency the NSA of being a US spy agency, and OVH built a castle in the swamp.
On September 15 Patreon laid off its entire security team, seven Patreon alternatives, the Dell Inspiron 27 sucked except the 2017 model, AI researchers were training AI to cheat rather than to do anything actually useful, and running Minecraft in Minecraft.
On September 16 Uber got hacked, Ethereum merged, 1.1.1.1 joined forces with 9.9.9.9, and the MOS 7600 was indeed a microcontroller.
On September 17 Texas House Bill 20 - the "fuck Twitter and YouTube" bill - was upheld by the Fifth Circuit, EVGA wrote its own Fuck Nvidia bill, the 7900X was faster than the 5950X, and Caddy and Nginx were much the same speed.
On September 18 replacing terrible journalists with terrible GPT-3 content, Sony's PCIe 5 SSDs, AMD stomped all over Intel for software developer workstations, DO NOT ENABLE ENHANCED SPELL CHECK, Intel's NUCs shipped - 8 months after the CPUs, HP's Pavilion Plus 14 could run three external 4K displays, and the Framework laptop four - so long as you keep the lid closed.
On September 19 the Bae case was on its way, Google and Facebook only controlled 80% of online ads, the Verge turned to shit - the content was already shit but now the layout matches, refreezing the polar ice caps, and a CoCo emulator.
On September 20 after fifteen years using electric mowers I finally did the thing, Nvidia said "ethics, schmethics", society was to blame, do not read this article, Adobe offered $20 billion for competitor Figma, and each iPhone 14 Pro Max included a billion ants free of charge.
On September 21 Nvidia announced the 4080 and the 4080 and the 4090, Star Citizen's crowdfunding crossed the $500 million mark, Wintermute lost $160 million and you'll never guess how, running arbitrary code without running any code at all, the EU banned Germany, and time to stock up on floppies.
On September 22 PayPal went on a banning spree in the UK, 600,000 Python projects used the tarfile library which seems just slightly odd, Amazon's new Fire HD8 was no better than the old Fire HD8, and James Web shot Neptune.
On September 23 Nividia denied the 4080 was just a renamed 4070 with higher pricing then cancelled the 4080 and re-announced it as a very expensive 4070, green hydrogen caused brain damage, and Krea.ai was a directory of awful AI art.
On September 24 the US wanted to be a world leader in hydrogen production because the US is currently run by morons, Google to its employees: quit whining and get to work, and superconductors work by superglue.
On September 25 the 13900K wasn't the fastest CPU but it was certainly fast, Get3D was an AI 3D model generator, JavaScript web frameworks should burn, and nobody wants plant-based meat except the kind that comes from a cow.
On September 26 JMAP was IMAP with JSON, and 58 bytes of CSS to fix your website.
On September 27 Ryzen 7000 reviews were mostly positive, with the only negative factor being the overall system price, the floor was lava, and Apple started removing iPhone apps that worked too well.
On September 28 the Bae case arrived and was seriously Bae, Intel announced the 13th gen lineup and also a 34-core workstation CPU, new embedded CPUs from AMD, a hacker said oops, and there's always a catch.
On September 29 a dozen investment banks were hit by fines totalling $2 billion for being lying shitweasels, which is to say, investment banks, the Kindle Scribe had a pen, some other old literature that was not the Epic of Gilgamesh, 48GB DIMMs, and cockroach bacon.
On September 30 Stadia exited the stadium, AMD improved OpenGL performance by up to 115% with new drivers, do not fire bullets straight up, saving money on AWS by leaving, and Brave started to block those irritating cookie consent banners.

Disclaimer: The pig, if I am not mistaken;
Supplies us sausage, ham, and bacon.
Let others say his heart is big—
I call it stupid of the pig.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:00 AM

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1 G'Day everyone

Posted by: Skip at December 28, 2022 04:00 AM (xhxe8)

2 Prayer request from Jane D'oh

Dear Horde:

Would greatly appreciate prayers for the love of my life, Mr. D'oh. He is in a local ICU in very critical condition, with double pneumonia that came on suddenly this afternoon while he was leaving work.

He actually turned on the emergency flashers on his SUV and called 911. He was blue and near death when the ambulance arrived at his business and took him to the hospital.

I found out about it when I called him to find out when he planned to be home for dinner. A stranger answered his phone and told me they were pulling into the ER entrance of the hospital.

He has no signs of heart issues or blood clots, but his lungs are filled with fluid and he is intubated and mildly sedated. I've just arrived home since being in the ER with him at 6:30. He's comfortable, but the doctor said, "He is very critical."

Please pray for him if you are so moved. I'm about to try to catch a little sleep.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 28, 2022 02:06 AM

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 28, 2022 04:02 AM (ju2Fy)

3 BOING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 28, 2022 04:05 AM (IOu4z)

4 Mornin', all

Prayers for Mr. D'oh and you too, Jane.

Posted by: My Life is Insanity at December 28, 2022 04:07 AM (yXox8)

5 Wishing Mr. D'oh a speedy complete recovery. I'm no doctor but one of the first things that comes to mind is the need for massive doses of vitamin D. And with that, I'll shut up.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 28, 2022 04:10 AM (IOu4z)

6 Morning all!

Prayers up for Jane and Mr.

Posted by: Bruce at December 28, 2022 04:10 AM (vd8XM)

7 From the OMG, Them Injuns is burning plastic article...

A few children picked through the mounds, looking for discarded toys while unmasked waste pickers sifted for metal cans or intact plastic bottles that could be sold.

Can you imagine! Picking thru trash without a mask??!!!

Oh, the huge manatee.

Posted by: Bruce at December 28, 2022 04:12 AM (vd8XM)

8 I guess the plastic we think we're recycling will have to go back to dumping it in the ocean.

Posted by: Bruce at December 28, 2022 04:13 AM (vd8XM)

9 Can you imagine! Picking thru trash without a mask??!!!
-------

No problemo-- they are able to get iv*rm*ctin without hassles.

Gloves, though... ick.

Posted by: JQ at December 28, 2022 04:16 AM (o0Fxd)

10 Prayers for Mr. D'oh and Jane too.

I separate glass,tin and aluminium...food waste is composted and I burn the rest.

Happy New Year All.

Posted by: firecubed at December 28, 2022 04:17 AM (NDa78)

11 Thanks olddog for posting.

Posted by: Skip at December 28, 2022 04:24 AM (xhxe8)

12 All of our "recycling" goes into one bin. The bin gets dumped into a regular garbage truck. Supposedly the recycling gets separated at another facility....somewhere.
I believe whatever does not meet the glass or aluminum rule gets sent to India or somewhere else.

I explain that to my wife, but she still wants to rinse the plastic container that produce comes in and put it into the recycle.

Posted by: Bruce at December 28, 2022 04:25 AM (vd8XM)

13 hiya

Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 04:26 AM (T4tVD)

14 Where does your recycling actually end up? Muzaffarnagar. (Bloomberg)

I was thinking about this just yesterday, musing about the number of manhours I have put in as Recycler. Another lie from the government.

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 04:30 AM (r8enq)

15 I was thinking about this just yesterday, musing about the number of manhours I have put in as Recycler. Another lie from the government.
Posted by: m

And let us pay more taxes to offset all the carbons we are emitting and give that money to countries like...India

Posted by: Bruce at December 28, 2022 04:31 AM (vd8XM)

16 Aluminum really does get recycled; it's much cheaper than refining bauxite. That's why they'll pay you for aluminum cans.

Glass and paper are marginal.

I'm not sure if anyone genuinely recycles plastic except as a marketing ploy.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at December 28, 2022 04:34 AM (BLOW1)

17 I'm not sure if anyone genuinely recycles plastic except as a marketing ploy.
Posted by: Pixy Misa

At one time the trash/recycling company had instructions on what what plastic was recyclable.
They don't do that anymore. Like I said, it all goes somewhere to get separated or burned.

Posted by: Bruce at December 28, 2022 04:39 AM (vd8XM)

18 Long ago there was a glass company in town., my grandfather who I never knew was a real glass blower and my other grandmother worked there for years inspecting bottles.
Anyway, they actually recycled glass and paid you cash for weight of . Clear or colored was only separation.

Posted by: Skip at December 28, 2022 04:43 AM (xhxe8)

19
Where does your recycling actually end up?

As carbon dioxide ... from having been burned

SUH-PRIZE!
SUH-PRIZE!
SUH-PRIZE!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2022 04:44 AM (pNxlR)

20 As carbon dioxide ... from having been burned

SUH-PRIZE!
SUH-PRIZE!
SUH-PRIZE!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot

But, it's the good kind of carbon dioxide. The kind that is in another country

Posted by: Bruce at December 28, 2022 04:46 AM (vd8XM)

21
Clear or colored was only separation.
Posted by: Skip

We are the chorus and we agree!
We agree! We agree! We agree!

-- ~~Bored of the Rings~~ Black Lives Matter

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2022 04:47 AM (pNxlR)

22
But, it's the good kind of carbon dioxide. The kind that is in another country
Posted by: Bruce

The kind that respects borders and walls!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2022 04:48 AM (pNxlR)

23 Alas, Lego, too!

https://tinyurl.com/y9pac8wc

(Nitter)

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 28, 2022 04:50 AM (IOu4z)

24 I saw a VW commercial.
Two guys that are living together in a big house that for some reason have a sheep as a pet that also lives in the house.

Next time it's on I'll actually have to pay attention to see what man, man, sheep love has to do with VW.

Posted by: Bruce at December 28, 2022 04:53 AM (vd8XM)

25 16 I'm not sure if anyone genuinely recycles plastic except as a marketing ploy.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at December 28, 2022 04:34 AM (BLOW1)

I remember some park benches (bus stop benches?) that were made out of recycled plastic. They had brown and green slats, scored to look like wood.

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 04:54 AM (r8enq)

26 20 As carbon dioxide ... from having been burned

SUH-PRIZE!
SUH-PRIZE!
SUH-PRIZE!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot

But, it's the good kind of carbon dioxide. The kind that is in another country
Posted by: Bruce at December 28, 2022 04:46 AM (vd8XM)

LOL Bruce. You must get up really early to start caffeinating to be this clever so early on.

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 04:55 AM (r8enq)

27 I remember some park benches (bus stop benches?) that were made out of recycled plastic. They had brown and green slats, scored to look like wood.
Posted by: m

We've got some patio furniture made from (supposedly, I didn't actually check) recycled plastics. Work great. Are very sturdy and after 5 years have not faded.
But they weren't cheap

Posted by: Bruce at December 28, 2022 04:57 AM (vd8XM)

28 Why would I Pay a thome?

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 04:57 AM (r8enq)

29 28 Why would I Pay a thome?
Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 04:57 AM (r8enq)

That looks dumb now that Tom's spam has been poofed.

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 04:57 AM (r8enq)

30 Mike Miller of RedState.com is an unforced error.

Posted by: Tracy at December 28, 2022 04:58 AM (ias+u)

31
I'm not sure if anyone genuinely recycles plastic except as a marketing ploy.
Posted by: Pixy Misa

I viewed a video which claimed that plastic materials in the U. S. stamped as #1 or #2 are actually recyclable. It also stated that the plastics industry co-opted the triangle shape from the recycling symbol and cynically placed the "recycling number" within a triangle to confuzzle its own cynical recycling pitch with "true" recycling.

I do know this: that recycling anything made from polystyrene (#7, PS, for those of you who purchased a program) is damn near impossible short of maintaining a dedicated polystyrene recycling stream, and even then the foam vs hard shell container forms are mutually exclusive.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2022 04:59 AM (pNxlR)

32 Up way to early this morning. Couldn't get back to sleep.

2 cuppas in me, and some Christmas cookies.

Posted by: Bruce at December 28, 2022 04:59 AM (vd8XM)

33 I worked at a place that had park benches made out of concrete (sides) and wood (slats) and they needed lots of sanding and repainting; splintered; and chipped. So the plastic ones seemed a good idea to me.

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 05:01 AM (r8enq)

34
Two guys that are living together in a big house that for some reason have a sheep as a pet that also lives in the house.

"Um, yeah ... the sheep's our 'pet' (nudge, nudge, wink, wink)."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2022 05:02 AM (pNxlR)

35 ... and there have been some efforts--I don't know how successful--to use recycled plastic in material for road resurfacing.

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 05:03 AM (r8enq)

36 https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/12/
the end of free elections
https://tinyurl.com/4444dezy

Posted by: Skip at December 28, 2022 05:05 AM (xhxe8)

37 ... and there have been some efforts--I don't know how successful--to use recycled plastic in material for road resurfacing.
Posted by: m

I throw my plastic beer bottles out of the car while I'm driving. So, in a way, I'm coating the road in plastics.

Posted by: Bruce at December 28, 2022 05:08 AM (vd8XM)

38 Watt's Up With That? is all over the recycling and global warming news. It's such a great site.

https://wattsupwiththat.com

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 05:09 AM (r8enq)

39 The search function seems not to be working at

https://wattsupwiththat.com

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 05:11 AM (r8enq)

40 I suppose White House waste is handled differently than normal waste. Probably top secret, and handled under guard to some dump somewhere. Does Biden have a burn barrel in his back yard in Delaware, I almost bet he does.
When I was a kid, it was my job to burn the trash in the back yard. I also loved the smell on leaves burning at the curb in my town. Now they spend big bucks picking it up and burying it somewhere, all to save the planet.

Posted by: Colin at December 28, 2022 05:11 AM (4p2ug)

41 37 I throw my plastic beer bottles out of the car while I'm driving. So, in a way, I'm coating the road in plastics.
Posted by: Bruce at December 28, 2022 05:08 AM (vd8XM)

Always ahead of the curve.

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 05:13 AM (r8enq)

42 I think Maine has single stream recycling: dump it all in one can and sort it out later. NYC will sell you a brown trash can for organic waste. It is not racoon or possum proof.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at December 28, 2022 05:16 AM (Eeb9P)

43 Clear, below freezing
Should be a little warmer today

Posted by: Skip at December 28, 2022 05:17 AM (xhxe8)

44
Who bottles beer in plastic?

Aluminum cans or glass bottles or leave it alone.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2022 05:20 AM (pNxlR)

45 Clear, below freezing
Should be a little warmer today
Posted by: Skip

We'll see........

Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 05:24 AM (T4tVD)

46 Congratulations, JT, for making it onto the front page righthand sidebar.

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 05:26 AM (r8enq)

47
When I was a kid, it was my job to burn the trash in the back yard.
Posted by: Colin

Me, too. My sister hated it: "How come he gets to burn the trash and I have to do the ironing?"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2022 05:26 AM (pNxlR)

48 Who bottles beer in plastic?

Aluminum cans or glass bottles or leave it alone.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot

I haven't checked lately. But Bud and some others did plastic bottles for quarts.

Posted by: Bruce at December 28, 2022 05:30 AM (vd8XM)

49 I haven't checked lately. But Bud and some others did plastic bottles for quarts.
Posted by: Bruce

I was going to type that Bud came in quarts....but I know how the horde mind operates

Posted by: Bruce at December 28, 2022 05:31 AM (vd8XM)

50 Congratulations, JT, for making it onto the front page righthand sidebar.
Posted by: m

Thanks, but that's really CBD doing his Frank Sinatra impersonation. (at least he's not singing)

Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 05:32 AM (T4tVD)

51 50 Congratulations, JT, for making it onto the front page righthand sidebar.
Posted by: m

Thanks, but that's really CBD doing his Frank Sinatra impersonation. (at least he's not singing)
Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 05:32 AM (T4tVD)

What is a Frank Sinatra impersonation in this context?

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 05:37 AM (r8enq)

52 I always thought it was hilarious how so many liberals probably pat themselves on the back and tell themselves they're saving the world, as they waste millions of gallons of oil shipping our trash to countries where they can ignite it, since it's only the wretched poors that live there.

That's long been the way the left and their commie brethren do things though, where it's not a problem if it just kills all the undesirables.

It's also hilarious (not hilarious haha, but hilarious in it makes me want to lop off heads) that lefties will scream about plastic in oceans and they'll take away our straws to save turtles,, when the only reason the straws are in the ocean are because they sold our trash to India or the Philippines (i think Duerte got sick of this and started sending Canada all their trash back, since they were just polluting other countries while pretending they're so eco-conscious)

Like i said yesterday, the world would be much cleaner, and endangered species much more abundant, if environmentalist were never around, but it's never too late to start.

Posted by: Rbastid at December 28, 2022 05:37 AM (xTUhb)

53 Good morning morons

A prayer for Mr. D'oh's immediate and complete recovery.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 28, 2022 05:39 AM (EZebt)

54 What is a Frank Sinatra impersonation in this context?
Posted by: m

One of the MANY things Sinatra was known for was his ability to hold a grudge,

Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 05:39 AM (T4tVD)

55 54 What is a Frank Sinatra impersonation in this context?
Posted by: m

One of the MANY things Sinatra was known for was his ability to hold a grudge,
Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 05:39 AM (T4tVD)

Oh. O.k., thanks.
I thought it was funny. You're being recognized in what I think is a jocular way.

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 05:41 AM (r8enq)

56 Evening, Pixy, and morning to the rest! I like the pig 'n' bacon verse. It reminds me of the saying about the production of eggs and bacon: The chicken is involved, but the pig is committed.

'Tis 51 F. now with a high expected around 70 today. You'd never know this was the first week of true winter, would ya?

Big black kitten Stirling nuzzled and kneaded me as usual when I woke up. The little Siberian girl, Dagny, is rolling around and stretching on the carpet near me, and giving me looks. "Well? Breakfast? We must haz it."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 28, 2022 05:41 AM (KAKDL)

57 Posted by: Bruce at December 28, 2022 04:53 AM (vd8XM)

Ive seen the commercial. The idea is ther guys were out, and the sheep left its pack and jumps in their car, then freaked them out. Instead of returning it they just treat it like a dog.

The tag line is probably "Don't be a sheep, get a VW" or something along those lines.

Posted by: Rbastid at December 28, 2022 05:43 AM (xTUhb)

58 54 Heard some comic "Frank Sinatra saved my life. Two guys were beating the hell out of me in a Vegas back room, and Frank got up and said OK, I think he's had enough".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 28, 2022 05:43 AM (lz5hY)

59 TLDR but looks great:

Misperception and Amplification of Climate Risk

https://tinyurl.com/2zpbvnu7
(Watt's Up With That?)

Presumably applicable to "risk" in other circumstances.

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 05:44 AM (r8enq)

60 Oh. O.k., thanks.
I thought it was funny. You're being recognized in what I think is a jocular way.
Posted by: m

I agree !

Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 05:46 AM (T4tVD)

61 They used to, and maybe still do, sell liquor in plastic bottles on international flights in the so call duty free sales. Seemed weird, but it was probably a weight thing on airplanes. Beer might have been in plastic also..

Posted by: Colin at December 28, 2022 05:46 AM (4p2ug)

62 Jane, multiple prayers for Mr. D'Oh. He was lucky with 911 (that it exists!), and lucky to have you; so those elements are in his plus column. And they aren't minor items either.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 28, 2022 05:49 AM (KAKDL)

63 Woke up this morning with 'Dees Pater' in my head. My brain is strange.

Only problem? I have no idea what it means. It is something I have heard, but have no idea of the context, let alone the meaning. Looked it up.

Dis Pater: Roman God of the Underworld. Huh. That is odd. That does not match the vague sense of context I had, but ok.

Also, Dyeus Pater: Indo-European All Father (Like Zeus or Odin.) ALSO, does not match the context, but ok.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2022 05:49 AM (CsVWE)

64 Photo at the top of that Watt's Up With That article is really creepy. A roomful of wraithlike children; yikes.

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 05:50 AM (r8enq)

65 I saw a VW commercial.
Two guys that are living together in a big house that for some reason have a sheep as a pet that also lives in the house.

And the guys are interracial. I so hate this fucking country today.

Heard some comic "Frank Sinatra saved my life. Two guys were beating the hell out of me in a Vegas back room, and Frank got up and said OK, I think he's had enough".

Depending on whom you ask, that was either a Don Rickles or Jackie Mason joke.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 28, 2022 05:52 AM (AW0uW)

66 I would like to recognize CBD's achievement in ball-busting in the sidebar.

I haven't seen a frozen birdbath in 30 years.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 28, 2022 05:53 AM (EZebt)

67 It was either the late '60's or early 70's that Sinatra had been losing his hair and had plugs put in (a relatively new process at the time).

Columnist Mike Royko reported that he was wearing a toupee.

Sinatra wrote a letter to the editor where Royko worked and said "Okay smart guy, I've got a deal for you, you pull my hair, if it comes off, I give you a hundred dollars. If it doesn't come off, I punch you in the mouth".

Royko backed off.

Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 05:53 AM (T4tVD)

68 I would like to recognize CBD's achievement in ball-busting in the sidebar.

I haven't seen a frozen birdbath in 30 years.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

I see one every day.

Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 05:54 AM (T4tVD)

69 An episode of The Lawman, a Warners Western series from 1961, is on, set in Old West Laramie. They actually are showing cold conditions, people wearing coats and shawls, and with blowing wind effects in nearly every scene. Most of the TV oaters of those days never tried to depict the seasons; it was always S. California weather all year 'round. (Have Gun -- Will Travel as always excepted. They shot on location in Oregon and showed Paladin dealing with winter more than once.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 28, 2022 05:54 AM (KAKDL)

70
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 28, 2022 05:54 AM (ENBF0)

71 Not to bad getting here

Posted by: Skip at December 28, 2022 05:55 AM (eWwd+)

72 Really frightening:

People worry about some things more than the evidence warrants (e.g. nuclear radiation, genetically modified food), and less about other threats than the evidence warrants (e.g., obesity, using mobile phones while driving). This gap in risk perception produces social policies that protect us more from what we are afraid of than from what actually threatens us the most.

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 05:56 AM (r8enq)

73 38 minutes, good lap time

Posted by: Skip at December 28, 2022 05:57 AM (eWwd+)

74 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 28, 2022 05:57 AM (ju2Fy)

75 Well, I love hearing about frozen birdbaths, and snow, and storms, and weather and such. Its all so alien and dramatic.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 28, 2022 05:59 AM (EZebt)

76 This gap in risk perception produces social policies that protect us more from what we are afraid of than from what actually threatens us the most.
Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 05:56 AM (r8enq)

Sounds about right. See also: Racism.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2022 05:59 AM (CsVWE)

77 75 Well, I love hearing about frozen birdbaths, and snow, and storms, and weather and such. Its all so alien and dramatic.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 28, 2022 05:59 AM (EZebt)

Something that is alien to me: shit on sidewalks.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2022 06:00 AM (CsVWE)

78 It's weird. Only one of the three sites I am helping out is working this week (the others are shut down with Toyota.) It is strangely quiet.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2022 06:02 AM (CsVWE)

79 Most of the TV oaters of those days never tried to depict the seasons; it was always S. California weather all year 'round.

That was generally done so that, once a series went into syndication, episodes could be shown in any order and the viewer wouldn't be wondering why yesterday's show took place in the dead of winter, but today's in blazing summer.

That's why there was always snow on the ground in Hogan's Heroes.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 28, 2022 06:02 AM (AW0uW)

80 Covid killed recycling here. The city doesn't even ask you to put it in a separate bin.

Except aluminum cans. Everyone (e.g Boy Scouts, church youth group, even the Firemen for the burn unit) still wants aluminum cans.

One good thing to come out of this mess.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at December 28, 2022 06:02 AM (I9VC/)

81 Heard some comic "Frank Sinatra saved my life. Two guys were beating the hell out of me in a Vegas back room, and Frank got up and said OK, I think he's had enough".

Depending on whom you ask, that was either a Don Rickles or Jackie Mason joke.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

I remember that, don't remember who, though.

Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 06:02 AM (T4tVD)

82 Something that is alien to me: shit on sidewalks.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2022 06:00 AM (CsVWE)
===
Alien but not dramatic.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 28, 2022 06:05 AM (EZebt)

83 Usually not up for the tech thread when it's live...blech, insomnia and getting over a bit of illness. Anyway, a few comments:

* Looking over the year, I must formally take back any and all complaints I've made about Elon Musk prior to 2022 including Tesla subsidies. It was tax money well spent; in one fell swoop the man laid bare most of what's driving the West toward oblivion, and he's got a coalition of independent journos and normies backing him up. Respect.
* Chip and component supplies are still hosed up and will be for at least 6 months to a year. I say that as someone who works with EEs on the business end of putting chips on boards and boards in product.
* That Pikachu video was the most delightfully twisted thing I've seen in quite a while. I needed that after the last few days--thanks.

Posted by: CppThis at December 28, 2022 06:05 AM (UewuT)

84 Covid killed recycling here. The city doesn't even ask you to put it in a separate bin.

Except aluminum cans.

Your municipality was just looking for an excuse to ditch a stupid policy and the ruling narcissists could never admit that they were wrong

Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 28, 2022 06:06 AM (oibLR)

85 burning plastic in adopted coal and gas plants would be most environmentally friendly way to go

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 28, 2022 06:07 AM (BRHaw)

86 Deus Pater would be God the Father?

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at December 28, 2022 06:10 AM (I9VC/)

87 76 This gap in risk perception produces social policies that protect us more from what we are afraid of than from what actually threatens us the most.
Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 05:56 AM (r8enq)

Sounds about right. See also: Racism.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2022 05:59 AM (CsVWE)

Years ago mothers were frightened by Alar on apples for the kids. About 3 out of 5 did nit have the correct car seats for their kids.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 28, 2022 06:14 AM (BRHaw)

88 86 Deus Pater would be God the Father?
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at December 28, 2022 06:10 AM (I9VC/)

That is the easy answer as far as where I heard it, but also no. I grew up in kind of a hippie catholic church setting (even though Mom, Grandpa and Grandma were all very old school Italian Catholics.) When Mom and Dad moved to Southern Indiana, Mom chose the closest Catholic church- which just happened to be a more new wave kind of deal. Folk singers instead of choir. That kind of thing. Very Vatican II parish.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2022 06:18 AM (CsVWE)

89 Most of the TV oaters of those days never tried to depict the seasons; it was always S. California weather all year 'round.
*
That was generally done so that, once a series went into syndication, episodes could be shown in any order and the viewer wouldn't be wondering why yesterday's show took place in the dead of winter, but today's in blazing summer.

That's why there was always snow on the ground in Hogan's Heroes.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 28, 2022

***
I'd agree, MP4, except that each episode of TV shows in that time were stand-alones, not part of story arcs. We understood that the stories being shown were isolated incidents in the heroes' lives, not necessarily in day-to-day sequence. It was rare in those days (though with some exceptions) for the heroes to refer to an earlier adventure, or for a guest character to return -- and *that* might have been for the reason you mention. If Guest Girl died in episode 24, but first appeared in 19, it would be confusing if 24 were aired before 19.

Mostly I think the "eternal California" setup was due to economics. Effects for weather cost more in prep and production.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 28, 2022 06:18 AM (KAKDL)

90 Years ago mothers were frightened by Alar on apples for the kids. About 3 out of 5 did nit have the correct car seats for their kids.
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 28, 2022 06:14 AM (BRHaw)

I don't think Mom and Dad ever had a car seat for me. I just slid around on the big bench seats.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2022 06:18 AM (CsVWE)

91 Whoopi Goldberg apologizes for repeating claim Holocaust wasn't about race (just like she did last time), as Jewish groups slam The View host and ABC faces fresh calls to ax her

Please let this go on. It proves the First Amendment works because real racist stupid people get to say racist stupid stuff.
It also clearly points out the difference in real racist like Whoopi and called racist like PDT.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 28, 2022 06:19 AM (BRHaw)

92 Jane, Prayers are sent for your husband and you. Please keep us informed.

Posted by: Mrs. JTB at December 28, 2022 06:19 AM (7EjX1)

93 Mostly I think the "eternal California" setup was due to economics. Effects for weather cost more in prep and production.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 28, 2022 06:18 AM (KAKDL)

Seems to me I remember an episode of I Dream of Genie that centered around a Monsoon/Hurricane. Wait, was IDoG set in Florida? Or Texas? For some reason I always thought California.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2022 06:20 AM (CsVWE)

94 This idea of risk perception is just like "follow the science" sometimes there is no accurate way of measuring risk

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 28, 2022 06:20 AM (EZebt)

95 Wolfus, Yesterday you mentioned using Voltran. If memory serves, it may be dangerous if a cat or dog licks it. Please be careful until you can check if that it true.

Posted by: Mrs. JTB at December 28, 2022 06:22 AM (7EjX1)

96 Wolfus, Yesterday you mentioned using Voltran. If memory serves, it may be dangerous if a cat or dog licks it. Please be careful until you can check if that it true.
Posted by: Mrs. JTB

Too many volts ?

Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 06:24 AM (T4tVD)

97 Wait, was IDoG set in Florida? Or Texas? For some reason I always thought California.

Florida, because Major Nelson was attached to NASA.

I believe the show was set in Cocoa Beach.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 28, 2022 06:26 AM (AW0uW)

98 Re TV weather and location, was always amazed that South Korea was so much like the Valley in MASH.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at December 28, 2022 06:26 AM (oWBc3)

99 94 This idea of risk perception is just like "follow the science" sometimes there is no accurate way of measuring risk
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 28, 2022 06:20 AM (EZebt)

Yes on all that. It's the government manipulation that I find scary.

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 06:27 AM (r8enq)

100 100!

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 06:27 AM (r8enq)

101 Snow blind Authorities 'absolutely' could have better handled blizzard that left 33 dead: sheriff

A top Erie County official admitted Tuesday that authorities could have “absolutely’’ done a better job handling the upstate weekend blizzard that left at least 33 people dead.

Proof positive that Big Govt kills. People actually expect their Govt to tell them how to live and what to do with ZERO thoughts on taking self responsibility.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 28, 2022 06:28 AM (BRHaw)

102 Only about a third of the Covidmania that's probably stunted the whole system for the rest of the decade is rooted in government/NGO malevolence. Another third came from a complete and total failure of risk management, top to bottom, at all level of the public and private sector. The final third is the cesspit of mob mentality that is social media.

Posted by: CppThis at December 28, 2022 06:28 AM (UewuT)

103 Jane, hope that your husband heals up well. I'll make sure to include him in the nightly roundup with the Boss.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2022 06:29 AM (CsVWE)

104 Proof positive that Big Govt kills. People actually expect their Govt to tell them how to live and what to do with ZERO thoughts on taking self responsibility.
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 28, 2022 06:28 AM (BRHaw)

The people not thinking about what THEY should do and precautions THEY should take. That always ends well.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2022 06:30 AM (CsVWE)

105 Yes on all that. It's the government manipulation that I find scary.
Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 06:27 AM (r8enq)
===
This is the heart of the problem. The Administrative State has become politicized and all they do and say that was formerly "scientific" as in non-partisan, is now explicitly controlled by one party and its politics.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 28, 2022 06:31 AM (EZebt)

106 Thermal jeans are one of the proofs that God loves us and wants us to be happy. That and long underwear and even -4 was not too bad. Along with a good Carhart.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2022 06:31 AM (CsVWE)

107 MASH always looked like Southern California to me.

Because I grew up there.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at December 28, 2022 06:32 AM (I9VC/)

108 Jane, hope that your husband heals up well. I'll make sure to include him in the nightly roundup with the Boss.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

You know Bruce Springsteen ?

Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 06:32 AM (T4tVD)

109 Also, these new work boots have been pretty decent and comfortable. Double H. They are a Cowboy style work boot with non-slick soles and are surprisingly comfortable (as long as I wear either long socks or long underwear.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2022 06:33 AM (CsVWE)

110 I always figured that when the Republic was replaced by an emperor, we would get a benign Caesar like Augustus.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at December 28, 2022 06:33 AM (I9VC/)

111
You know Bruce Springsteen ?
Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 06:32 AM (T4tVD)

The Real Boss, not that straining poseur.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2022 06:33 AM (CsVWE)

112 101 People actually expect their Govt to tell them how to live and what to do with ZERO thoughts on taking self responsibility.
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 28, 2022 06:28 AM (BRHaw)

People-->SOME people

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 06:34 AM (r8enq)

113 Seems to me I remember an episode of I Dream of Genie that centered around a Monsoon/Hurricane. Wait, was IDoG set in Florida? Or Texas? For some reason I always thought California.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2022

***
Tony, Larry Hagman, was a NASA astronaut, so I'd guess either Florida or Texas.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 28, 2022 06:35 AM (KAKDL)

114 Yeah, stay out of politics if you want to keep your head. But otherwise, they took the responsibility to administer Justice seriously enough.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at December 28, 2022 06:35 AM (I9VC/)

115 110 I always figured that when the Republic was replaced by an emperor, we would get a benign Caesar like Augustus.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at December 28, 2022 06:33 AM (I9VC/)

You hope for Trajan.
You will settle for Augustus.
You'll get Elagabalus.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2022 06:35 AM (CsVWE)

116 It was Cocoa Beach!

Sheesh.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at December 28, 2022 06:35 AM (I9VC/)

117 105 Yes on all that. It's the government manipulation that I find scary.
Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 06:27 AM (r8enq)
===
This is the heart of the problem. The Administrative State has become politicized and all they do and say that was formerly "scientific" as in non-partisan, is now explicitly controlled by one party and its politics.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 28, 2022 06:31 AM (EZebt)

I shouldn't say "scary"; that lets them win.

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 06:36 AM (r8enq)

118 mornin yall. Sorry to hear about Mr D'oh and am praying for a full recovery.

Posted by: fd at December 28, 2022 06:36 AM (iayUP)

119 Wolfus, Yesterday you mentioned using Voltran. If memory serves, it may be dangerous if a cat or dog licks it. Please be careful until you can check if that it true.
Posted by: Mrs. JTB at December 28, 2022

***
Mrs. JTB, I'm putting the stuff on my lower back, which is not a cat licking area, and I wash my hands thoroughly before petting the beasts. Thanks for the reminder!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 28, 2022 06:36 AM (KAKDL)

120 102 Only about a third of the Covidmania that's probably stunted the whole system for the rest of the decade is rooted in government/NGO malevolence. Another third came from a complete and total failure of risk management, top to bottom, at all level of the public and private sector. The final third is the cesspit of mob mentality that is social media.
Posted by: CppThis at December 28, 2022 06:28 AM (UewuT)

Lotta overlap among those categories.

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 06:37 AM (r8enq)

121 You hope for Trajan.
You will settle for Augustus.
You'll get Elagabalus.

Elagabalus at least left the common people alone. We'll probably get a Nero or a Caligula.

Although, since Caligula cut a wide swath of death and terror through the upper classes, a new one for the US might not be so bad.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 28, 2022 06:38 AM (AW0uW)

122 121 You hope for Trajan.
You will settle for Augustus.
You'll get Elagabalus.

Elagabalus at least left the common people alone. We'll probably get a Nero or a Caligula.

Although, since Caligula cut a wide swath of death and terror through the upper classes, a new one for the US might not be so bad.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 28, 2022 06:38 AM (AW0uW)

How about a Clovis?

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 06:39 AM (r8enq)

123 This Title 42 bullshit is lies on top of lies. Either the pandemic farce is over or it's not. They want to have it both ways, which is typical of the left.

Posted by: fd at December 28, 2022 06:39 AM (iayUP)

124 You know Bruce Springsteen ?
Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 06:32 AM (T4tVD)

The Real Boss, not that straining poseur.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

oh.

Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 06:40 AM (T4tVD)

125 It was Cocoa Beach!

The beach is made of cocoa ?

Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 06:42 AM (T4tVD)

126 Recycling is an Op.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 28, 2022 06:42 AM (up/3i)

127
A top Erie County official admitted Tuesday that authorities could have “absolutely’’ done a better job handling the upstate weekend blizzard that left at least 33 people dead.

If only they had more funds available, right?

I live a five hour drive away from the Buffalo area and at least 24 hours before the first snowflake fell I knew they were gonna get slammed. I'm sure 100% of the adult residents of the area also knew.

But Big Brother always has to do a better job, which they could if only they had more funds.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 28, 2022 06:43 AM (enJYY)

128 Augustus was not really that benign. You look at the proscription regime that he oversaw with Marc Anthony during the second Triumvirate. The way he tried to manipulate the public with both censorship and historical revisionism. Even though after he finally was the sole ruler, he seemed to turn more benign, he was always a ruthless asshole, he just did not have to be quite so out in the open with it with regards to enemies (because most of them were already dead.)
Trajan or Vespasian were probably the best Men to ever be Emperor. They improved or stabilized the empire and both took a fairly hands off approach to direct admin. Trajan especially left it up to local authorities on how to administer their provinces. He tried to decentralize the apparatus while assholes like Hadrian or Diocletian tried to Technocrat their way into controlling every little thing.
Plus, Trajan from what I have heard, was just a Good Man. People followed him and loved him. He just pulled people with him in what he wanted to do without being heavy handed. Natural magnetic personality and deep personal charisma. Considering that I am showering praise on him almost 2000 years later, I guess he had 'It'.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2022 06:43 AM (CsVWE)

129 Where does your recycling actually end up? Muzaffarnagar. (Bloomberg)

Gesundheit!

ISWYDT Pixy !

Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 06:43 AM (T4tVD)

130 G'morning, all.

Prayers for Jane and Mr D'oh.

That's a real kick in the nuts to see as the first post on the thread.

BUT....I am very glad for the re-post.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 28, 2022 06:44 AM (1n+EO)

131 @110

>>we would get a benign Caesar like Augustus.

Instead we get the stupidest, most unworthy collection of dumbasses to rule over us.

It's a joke, it's all a joke.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 28, 2022 06:46 AM (up/3i)

132 Or Trajan just had REALLY good PR.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2022 06:46 AM (CsVWE)

133 The story of the young nurse from NC freezing in her car in Buffalo (actually carbon monoxide poisoned) is a tragedy, but it always reminds me of how I was raised moving around a lot to let's say some irregular climates. Dad would always say, you can't control your environment, but you can be prepared for it. It's not rocket science - don't cross the Mojave without water in the car, if you're driving in tornado country make note of overpasses or ditches, etc. common sense has become uncommon I guess.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at December 28, 2022 06:47 AM (oWBc3)

134 Elagabalus at least left the common people alone. We'll probably get a Nero or a Caligula.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 28, 2022 06:38 AM (AW0uW)

*turns hand sideways back and forth*

Aside from trying to turn every Temple into a Temple for Elagabal.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2022 06:49 AM (CsVWE)

135 Praying for Mr. D’oh!

Posted by: LadyS at December 28, 2022 06:50 AM (VGiJY)

136 Nero and Caligula were small time compared to who has been running this country the last 70 years or so.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at December 28, 2022 06:51 AM (oWBc3)

137 If it's gonna be so warm today, it would be smart of me to wash the car, then clay and wax a third of it -- the roof of the car is the toughest to reach. The Buick is a pretty big car and claying-and-waxing is a workout in itself. I could do another third on Thursday and the final part on Saturday or Sunday. Then the car will be set until mid-March, when I can do it again for the last time until next December. (Don't worry, I wash and spray-wax the big red beast every week in between.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 28, 2022 06:52 AM (KAKDL)

138 This Title 42 bullshit is lies on top of lies. Either the pandemic farce is over or it's not. They want to have it both ways, which is typical of the left.

You live in a post-Constitutional, post-Reason era. If lies built upon lies is the only way to get even a feeble attempt to control the border, then that is what you use.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 28, 2022 06:56 AM (oibLR)

139 So the Air Force has a small fleet of aircraft that are being heavily used to interdict drug smuggling and border crossings. They by all accounts are very effective in both rolls.

Joe Biden has a plan....

https://tinyurl.com/2cz2m5az

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 28, 2022 06:56 AM (1n+EO)

140 128 Trajan or Vespasian were probably the best Men to ever be Emperor. They improved or stabilized the empire and both took a fairly hands off approach to direct admin. Trajan especially left it up to local authorities on how to administer their provinces. He tried to decentralize the apparatus while assholes like Hadrian or Diocletian tried to Technocrat their way into controlling every little thing.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2022 06:43 AM (CsVWE)

Hadrian built territorial border walls!

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 06:56 AM (r8enq)

141 The last reason 2022 may be the worst year ever: no Chanukah donuts from Mrs. F. She must think one of us is too fat.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 28, 2022 06:59 AM (EZebt)

142 Hadrian built territorial border walls!
Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 06:56 AM (r8enq)

He was also a nancing, murderous asshole who got into arguments with REAL architects. Not to mention his attempt to culturally destroy the Jews as a people.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2022 06:59 AM (CsVWE)

143 I would prefer the Air Force to use A10s at the border.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at December 28, 2022 07:00 AM (oWBc3)

144
Erie County, NY deaths
17 were found outdoors
7 were from a lack of heat
3 were from cardiac events due to snow shoveling/blowing
3 were found in a vehicle
1 was from an EMS delay

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 28, 2022 07:01 AM (enJYY)

145 "I would prefer the Air Force to use A10s at the border."

Maybe use both. The other one for detection.
And the A-10 for removing the threat.

Win-Win

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 28, 2022 07:01 AM (1n+EO)

146 129 Where does your recycling actually end up? Muzaffarnagar. (Bloomberg)

Gesundheit!
ISWYDT Pixy !
Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 06:43 AM (T4tVD)

According to the article, Muzaffarnagar is a real place: "Muzaffarnagar, a city about 80 miles north of New Delhi"

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 07:01 AM (r8enq)

147 Stupid question.

After reading the rational behind the ruling of the Maricopa County Judge, can we demand requiring the same level of proof when someone sues a gun manufacturer for a mass shooting?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 28, 2022 07:04 AM (1n+EO)

148 Olddog, thanks for posting about Jane d'Oh's husband. How awful but thank God he had the presence of mind to call 911. Lots of prayers for both of them coming from me.

Posted by: bluebell at December 28, 2022 07:04 AM (pTb/Z)

149 My birdbath is frozen solid !

(and I read the content !)

Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 07:06 AM (T4tVD)

150 First morning above freezing here in NE Texas. Gonna hit 60 today.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 28, 2022 07:06 AM (uNylN)

151 68 I would like to recognize CBD's achievement in ball-busting in the sidebar.

I haven't seen a frozen birdbath in 30 years.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

I see one every day.
Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 05:54 AM (T4tVD)

Not EVERY day.

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 07:07 AM (r8enq)

152 Tesla owner says he had to cancel Christmas plans because car would not charge in freezing weather
The owner says he left the Tesla charging in cold weather for hours with no change

Nati said he tried contacting Tesla for customer support, but nobody responded to him. He told Insider that he ultimately canceled his holiday plans because his car only had a 19-mile range at that point and there were no available Uber or Lyft drivers.

https://fxn.ws/3C7tvsJ

BOO-YAH BABY! 19 mile range!!!

CHARGE THOSE DAMN CARS!!!!!

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at December 28, 2022 07:07 AM (txGor)

153 No one reads the content JT

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 28, 2022 07:07 AM (EZebt)

154 Thanks for the update, JT.

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 07:08 AM (r8enq)

155 "Tesla owner says he had to cancel Christmas plans because car would not charge in freezing weather"

Aww. Poor JEM.

Posted by: fd at December 28, 2022 07:09 AM (iayUP)

156 153 No one reads the content JT
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 28, 2022 07:07 AM (EZebt)

Techist!

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 07:10 AM (r8enq)

157 I haven't seen a frozen birdbath in 30 years.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

I see one every day.
Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 05:54 AM (T4tVD)

Not EVERY day.
Posted by: m

How do YOU know ? Mebbe I live above the thing...whaddyacallit ? The erotic circle !

Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 07:10 AM (T4tVD)

158 You're welcome, m !

Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 07:11 AM (T4tVD)

159 You hope for Trajan.
You will settle for Augustus.
You'll get Elagabalus.

Elagabalus at least left the common people alone. We'll probably get a Nero or a Caligula.

Although, since Caligula cut a wide swath of death and terror through the upper classes, a new one for the US might not be so bad.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 28, 2022 06:38 AM (AW0uW)

How about a Clovis?
Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 06:39 AM (r8enq)
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Diocletian is right out.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 28, 2022 07:12 AM (dRCR8)

160 No one reads the content JT
Posted by: San Franpsycho

you're gonna make pixy feel bad,

Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 07:12 AM (T4tVD)

161 Technology, like music culture and politics has passed me by.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 28, 2022 07:12 AM (EZebt)

162 I haven't seen a frozen birdbath in 30 years.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

I see one every day.
Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 05:54 AM (T4tVD)

Not EVERY day.
Posted by: m

How do YOU know ? Mebbe I live above the thing...whaddyacallit ? The erotic circle !
Posted by: JT

That'll keep the old "bird bath" hard. 😉

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at December 28, 2022 07:12 AM (txGor)

163
When my wife was in healthcare and a winter storm was approaching she always had a suitcase packed for an overnight stay. Maybe two or three times she stayed the night. Management was always glad to provide a room, which she sometimes had to share. She was even paid to sleep there overnight.

Paid to sleep, you read that correctly.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 28, 2022 07:13 AM (enJYY)

164 Paid to sleep, you read that correctly.
Posted by: Divide by Zero

Are they hiring ?

Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 07:16 AM (T4tVD)

165 @HansMahncke
So many people still don't get it. The government has no role to play in censorship. It's unconstitutional. It doesn't matter whether it's supposedly well intentioned. Once you allow the government to censor some things you give them license to censor anything under some pretext.

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 07:16 AM (r8enq)

166 I saw a video some time back on the scrapping of old ships on the shore somewhere in India. Half naked coolies hopping around these large old freighters with no shoes and blow torches cutting the ships up.

I think a few workers are killed every few days from accidents and what not.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 28, 2022 07:17 AM (UCfnM)

167 I can bust balls too right? Girl F. is marrying an Aussie so we're all good.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 28, 2022 07:17 AM (EZebt)

168 @ITGuy1959
Dec 26
If you rationalize this censorship in any way:
- "Well, we didn't know then what we know now"
- "They meant well"
- "It wasn't that bad"
- "Many people were not banned"
Etc.
Then you are a frog being boiled

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 07:18 AM (r8enq)

169 "Once you allow the government to censor some things you give them license to censor anything under some pretext.
"

Goes right along with the idea that the Government can violate your rights and ignore the Constitution only during a national emergency.

Voila...there will always be a national emergency.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 28, 2022 07:18 AM (1n+EO)

170 169 "Once you allow the government to censor some things you give them license to censor anything under some pretext."

Goes right along with the idea that the Government can violate your rights and ignore the Constitution only during a national emergency.

Voila...there will always be a national emergency.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 28, 2022 07:18 AM (1n+EO)

We have to keep saying this.

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 07:19 AM (r8enq)

171 CBD has me cracking up and up above a ceiling on a scaffold

Posted by: Skip at December 28, 2022 07:20 AM (izhfK)

172 They're going to keep saying, "Well, given what we knew at the time...."

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 07:20 AM (r8enq)

173 You mean like the climate emergency?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 28, 2022 07:21 AM (EZebt)

174 https://tinyurl.com/47rns3v3

UTEP's college basketball coach helps out 3 Pitt Panther football players.

And with that, it's off to bed. I'm in my second week of midshifts. Sadly, i'm back on days in January. I can easily stay on midshift. I think I'm part owl.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 28, 2022 07:22 AM (sAmhv)

175 I do.

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 07:22 AM (r8enq)

176 I saw a video some time back on the scrapping of old ships on the shore somewhere in India. Half naked coolies hopping around these large old freighters with no shoes and blow torches cutting the ships up.

I think a few workers are killed every few days from accidents and what not.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy

When you have a billion mouths to feed 3x a day, losing a handful a week is no big deal.

(To us, it is. Hence OSHA) Them? Nah.

Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at December 28, 2022 07:22 AM (txGor)

177 " You mean like the climate emergency?"

And the transgender mental health emergency.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 28, 2022 07:22 AM (1n+EO)

178 No one reads the content JT
Posted by: San Franpsycho

What if Ace reads that and fires Pixy ?

It'll be like the Busboy episode of Seinfeld.

Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 07:22 AM (T4tVD)

179 I do.
Posted by: m

Did you just get married ?

Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 07:23 AM (T4tVD)

180 45 going to 75 down here by Galveston Bay

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 28, 2022 07:23 AM (BRHaw)

181 In fairness, I read it. I just don't understand any of it.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 28, 2022 07:24 AM (EZebt)

182
Paid to sleep, you read that correctly.

///
Are they hiring ?

Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 07:16 AM

I'm sure there are plenty of job openings in health care right now.

There's no good reason for anyone to be on the road during a blizzard except for an emergency with life or death implications. When I was an employer during a snow event anyone was allowed to leave when they or their spouse became uncomfortable with conditions. I lived five minutes away and had four wheel drive so I was always the last to leave.

I *do* remember one snowstorm when our Governor ordered everyone off the roads except... I forget the term used now.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 28, 2022 07:24 AM (enJYY)

183 45 going to 75 down here by Galveston Bay
Posted by: rhennigantx

Can I mail ya my birdbath ?

Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 07:26 AM (T4tVD)

184 176 I saw a video some time back on the scrapping of old ships on the shore somewhere in India. Half naked coolies hopping around these large old freighters with no shoes and blow torches cutting the ships up.

I think a few workers are killed every few days from accidents and what not.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy

When you have a billion mouths to feed 3x a day, losing a handful a week is no big deal.

(To us, it is. Hence OSHA) Them? Nah.
Posted by: rickb223 Gone Galt at December 28, 2022 07:22 AM (txGor)

The safest, cleanest, most productive, most secure, and most reliable source of oil and gas is right here in our own back yards produced by hard working Americans.

And we begs lying, thieving, killing, cheating, and inhumane countries to take out money for their oil.

Just Plain Old Fucking Stupid!

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 28, 2022 07:27 AM (BRHaw)

185 165 @HansMahncke
So many people still don't get it. The government has no role to play in censorship. It's unconstitutional. It doesn't matter whether it's supposedly well intentioned. Once you allow the government to censor some things you give them license to censor anything under some pretext.
Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 07:16 AM (r8enq)

This. So Much this. Basic civics, motherfuckers!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2022 07:28 AM (CsVWE)

186 183 45 going to 75 down here by Galveston Bay
Posted by: rhennigantx

Can I mail ya my birdbath ?
Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 07:26 AM (T4tVD)

Euphemism?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 28, 2022 07:28 AM (CsVWE)

187 Can I mail ya my birdbath ?
Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 07:26 AM (T4tVD)

In case it thaws on the way check the LIQUIDS box at the USPS.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 28, 2022 07:28 AM (BRHaw)

188 Morning peeps.

I saw a video some time back on the scrapping of old ships on the shore somewhere in India.
_________

The videos of the ships being beached is also pretty cool. I assume it was part of the one referenced above. That particular part of the process actually takes some skill.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 28, 2022 07:28 AM (Q4IgG)

189 Sen. Brian Schatz (D-HI) bragged about securing $64 million for the Honolulu Rail Transit Project, a billion-dollar boondoggle that the feds were considering pulling the plug on.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 28, 2022 07:30 AM (BRHaw)

190
Wolfus, Yesterday you mentioned using Voltran. If memory serves, it may be dangerous if a cat or dog licks it. Please be careful until you can check if that it true.
Posted by: Mrs. JTB

Too many volts ?
Posted by: JT

Too many trans ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2022 07:31 AM (pNxlR)

191 The videos of the ships being beached is also pretty cool. I assume it was part of the one referenced above. That particular part of the process actually takes some skill.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 28, 2022 07:28 AM (Q4IgG)
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Yes, there have special pilots whose job it is to put the ships far enough up the beach that they won't slip back at high tide.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 28, 2022 07:34 AM (dRCR8)

192 Trans Fat.

Is it a thing?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 28, 2022 07:34 AM (1n+EO)

193 On climate charts:
Here’s climate scientists James Hansen and Makiko Sato describing why they used the 1951-1980 baseline in a study about global “warm” temperature station observations:

We choose 1951-1980 as the base period because that was the base period at the time that "global warming" began to be a public issue. Also it is the time that "baby boomers" grew up, so this choice for base period allows those people to relate today's climate to that which they remember.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 28, 2022 07:35 AM (BRHaw)

194 "Yes, there have special pilots whose job it is to put the ships far enough up the beach that they won't slip back at high tide. "

There is a Navy OOD joke in there somewhere

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 28, 2022 07:35 AM (1n+EO)

195 But wait there is more:
Here’s a team from Columbia University (also featuring Hansen and Sato) describing why they chose a 40-year 1880-1920 baseline for their review of “global temperature in 2020:”

We use 1880-1920 as baseline, i.e., as the zero-point for temperature anomalies, in part because it is the earliest period with substantial global coverage of instrumental measurements

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 28, 2022 07:36 AM (BRHaw)

196 So group A does there scientism based on FEELINGS.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 28, 2022 07:36 AM (BRHaw)

197 So group A does there scientism based on FEELINGS.
Posted by: rhennigantx

Their

Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 07:37 AM (T4tVD)

198 And Group B knows there is data before 1880 but it is hard to use as not very well organized.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 28, 2022 07:37 AM (BRHaw)

199 Thanks to glow-Ball Worming, Although our little town's average December low temp is 41 degrees, we have just finished three mornings of 16 degree lows.

24 degrees right now.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 28, 2022 07:37 AM (1n+EO)

200
Half naked coolies hopping around these large old freighters with no shoes and blow torches cutting the ships up.

Coolies - never cared for the term.

Posted by: Joe Cool at December 28, 2022 07:37 AM (enJYY)

201 Hansen and Sato will use whatever dataset is useful for their narrative. The "science" is a secondary consideration, if it's considered at all.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 28, 2022 07:38 AM (Q4IgG)

202 197 So group A does there scientism based on FEELINGS.
Posted by: rhennigantx

Their
Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 07:37 AM (T4tVD)

Feelings like I never have you again in my life

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 28, 2022 07:38 AM (BRHaw)

203 Feeling nothing moar than feelings

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 28, 2022 07:38 AM (BRHaw)

204 We chose a baseline of -12040 to -12000 because there were mile-thick ice sheets down the middle of the continent.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 28, 2022 07:39 AM (dRCR8)

205 202 197 So group A does there scientism based on FEELINGS.
Posted by: rhennigantx

Feelings like I never have you again in my life
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 28, 2022 07:38 AM (BRHaw)

LOL

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 07:39 AM (r8enq)

206 I saw Half Naked Coolies open for Bare Naked Ladies the the Red Rocks in 1999.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 28, 2022 07:40 AM (BRHaw)

207 It would seem that horse paste was both effective, and safe after all.

https://tinyurl.com/4jkeksan

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 28, 2022 07:41 AM (1n+EO)

208 Section 212(f) of the INA. Speaking of massive grants of congressional authority, section 212(f) of the INA provides that:

Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.

PDT could win 57 states by declaring this as his first Act!

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 28, 2022 07:44 AM (BRHaw)

209 Nice snark!

Amalia Cella
@amaliatweeets
Finally someone defending the government's rights.

David French
@DavidAFrench
But any discussion of the issues that doesn't seriously consider the government's interest in limiting the spread of dangerous misinformation and the government's own speech rights isn't fully engaging with the issue.

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 07:44 AM (r8enq)

210 It would seem that horse paste was both effective, and safe after all.

Toothpaste for horses ?

Does NGU know about this ?

Posted by: JT at December 28, 2022 07:45 AM (T4tVD)

211
The City of Cool is located in El Dorado County in the State of California.

Posted by: Joe Cool at December 28, 2022 07:46 AM (enJYY)

212 So if I'm correct.

1. Any level of exercise, no matter how small would reduce the likelihood and severity of Covid.

2. Horse paste had a statistically significant effect on both the likelihood and severity of Covid.

3. Dare we say that the most commonly worn masks were ineffective in reducing Covid transmission?

What could the government have done differently if they WANTED to increase the death and illness rate from Covid?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 28, 2022 07:46 AM (1n+EO)

213 JJ

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 28, 2022 07:46 AM (BRHaw)

214 212 So if I'm correct.

1. Any level of exercise, no matter how small would reduce the likelihood and severity of Covid.

2. Horse paste had a statistically significant effect on both the likelihood and severity of Covid.

3. Dare we say that the most commonly worn masks were ineffective in reducing Covid transmission?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 28, 2022 07:46 AM (1n+EO)

Also Vitamin D?

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 07:50 AM (r8enq)

215 @HansMahncke
Lockdowns were the original sin. If that hadn't happened (been allowed to happen), none of the other abuses would've happened.

Maybe?

Posted by: m at December 28, 2022 07:51 AM (r8enq)

216 Lockdowns were the original sin. If that hadn't happened (been allowed to happen), none of the other abuses would've happened.

Lockdowns were the government's Hail Mary pass. When businesses, schools, churches and people locked down. masked up and screamed that the unvaxxed needed to be thrown into camps, they learned that there is absolutely nothing they can decree in the name of 'safety' that won't be instantly obeyed.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 28, 2022 08:06 AM (AW0uW)

217 216 Lockdowns were the original sin. ...

Lockdowns were the government's Hail Mary pass.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 28, 2022 08:06 AM (AW0uW)

Nice!

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219 In 2023 the 32 core model will be slower than a 12 core Ryzen 7900X
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