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Saturday Morning Coffee Break & Prayer Revival

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Prayer Requests: 7/16 –AoSHQ Weekly Prayer List

Please submit any prayer requests to me, “Annie’s Stew” at apaslo atsign hotmail dot com. Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks unless we receive an update.

ellipse (… asked for prayers for a work friend (of 18 years) and fantastic young lady named Lauren, who has been sick and away from work for 3 months.
8/20 Update – Lauren is back at work and sounds very good and very upbeat. Thank you for your prayers.

7/18 – Emmie asked for prayers for God’s guidance and His will do be done regarding the sale of their house.
7/28 Update – The potential buyer decided it wouldn’t work for them. The house is officially listed (in a semi-rural area of Colorado). She would appreciate prayer that God would bring together the property and the people who can make good use of it.
8/24 Update – Emmie needs prayers. There are still no offers on their house, and they really need access to the money tied up in it. They did meet with an investor, expecting a lowball offer that might be somewhat reasonable, but it was ridiculous.

7/26 – Nurse Ratched asked for prayers for Ann (Empire1), who had a fall recently and is in ICU. She is recovering but has a long row to hoe.
8/1 Update – Rehab is on hold until she is more stable. Her AFIB with high heart rate and significant edema have been way too stubborn, plus they found another infection. Thanks for the continued prayers!
8/23 Update – Ann has Covid on top of everything else. Her generalized edema grows slowly worse as her heart and kidney failure progress. Nurse Ratched prays that God holds Ann in His embrace and minimizes her suffering as nature takes its course. Thank you to all Ann’s online friends for lifting her up in prayer.
8/26 Update – Ann Wilson has passed away. She so loved her AoS community! Thank you for her friendship – it meant so much to her.

7/30 – Moki asks for prayers. Her cancer surgery has been postponed for 4 months so she can go through a series of extremely invasive and even 1 dangerous test, to prove that she will wake up from anesthesia. If she refuses the tests, they refuse to perform the cancer surgery. Her cancer is renal cell carcinoma, localized to one kidney at this time.
8/15 Update - Moki is having surgery today (8/15) to remove the tumor from her kidney. Please pray that the surgeons remove every trace of cancer, and for complete healing. And also for Mr. Moki and their two children.
8/17 Update – Moki is home from the hospital, earlier than expected. Thank you for all the prayers, she knows they have helped tremendously.

8/4 – Defenestratus asks for prayers for his young cousin, who was rushed to the hospital for another case of myocarditis. It’s his second episode since he got the vaccine (after having had Covid). He’s incredibly smart, athletic, driven, as well as humble and kind.
8/20 Update – Thank you for the prayers. His cousin is out of the hospital again and into his dorm at the University of Florida.

8/9 – Fenelon Spoke asks for prayers for her church organist, Jessie, who is having pain and intestinal issues. Thanks so much!

8/10 – Aetius451AD would appreciate prayers for his aunt, who is going in for surgery for cancer. They think it has not spread and they can remove it all without chemo.

8/11 – Danger Girl asks for prayers for herself and Mr. D. They need prayers for guidance and health.

8/11 – “Ray Epps” (aka Bete?) asked for prayers, as his job hunt is about to break him. He is still dealing with cancer, too.

8/12 – Jim in Kalifornia needs prayers for his older child. He has been having issues with abdominal pain for a couple of months now and the doctors cannot find anything. Jim was looking through the lab results and just found something the doctors may have missed.

8/13 – Several people requested prayers for Donald Trump and his family.

8/13 – Mindful webworker asked for prayers for family members. Milady Jo’s health has improved a bit, but there’s still good reason to pray for longstanding problems. Daughter and her husband are still trying to conceive. SonM could use better health. SonC, his wife, and their two under-5yo children continue to refuse calls, texts, and emails. Pray for the Spirit of Truth to reach them both.

8/15 – Cosda asks for prayers for her sister, whose regularly scheduled colonoscopy revealed a problem. The sister will be having her ascending colon removed next week. It seems to be early in the cancer stage and contained. Prayers are appreciated by the family.
8/25 Update – The surgery went well, thank God. They are praying that the lab results show that they got all the cancer.

8/15 – Pug Mahon asked for prayers, as his wife was in ER with possible appendicitis.
8/20 Update – Pug and Mrs. Mahon appreciates the prayers, and she is doing fine.

8/15 – Westminsterdogshow asked for prayers. He had lost his dad today.

8/19 – mngiggle requested for prayers for his brother, who is in the ICU for pneumonia and possibly sepsis.

8/20 – Brave Sir Robin asks for prayers for Lady Robin. She was having serious lower G.I issues, and has been through medical testing from hell this week. Indicators so far are: fatty liver disease, collapsed gall bladder, thickened intestinal wall, and finally, a common but wicked virus called C.Diff. She is on antibiotics for that.

8/20 – Blake – semi lurker in marginal standing asked for prayers before his upcoming surgery (Tuesday). It involves a general anesthetic, which is where problems could occur, based on his other health issues.
8/23 Update – Surgery went well, and he came through the anesthesia okay.

8/20 – Joan asks for prayers for Gary, her husband, who has a lung infection, complicating his COPD. He is in acute rehab now with high CO2 levels, which impacts his mental state. Pray for salvation assurance and healing of the lung infection.

8/21 – Moron and on and on asks for prayers for Chuck’s Bethie. Her chemo has failed, the cancer has spread, and the doctors have nothing else. She is resigned to end stage care when it comes, but was enjoying this life. Chuck needs prayers, too, in losing a daughter.

8/22 – Romeo13’s son needs prayers. He is 31 years old, suddenly suffering from angina, after getting 3 of the clot shots.

8/23 – Javems is in pulmonary rehab for a while. It will be several hours each week.

8/25 – Sock Monkey asks for prayers for the oldest son of some dear friends. He had a promising career started as a pastor in SE Washington, that ended the day he received his second Pfizer shot. He has been on a rollercoaster of progress and neurological setbacks since then (last May). This morning he woke up confused and disoriented. His wife took him to ER, and they transferred to ICU and induced a coma. The prognosis is not good. He and his wife have two young sons; please pray for them all.

8/27 – Iowaan asks for prayers to remember his wife of 32 years, Sharon, and the light of his life. She died at age 63 last year on 10/18 from kidney failure caused malnutrition, caused by cancer on her tonsil, probably caused by 50 years of heavy smoking, which spread to a lymph node under her jaw. Radiation, chemo, and surgery left her cancer free, but with extreme difficulty swallowing. She developed several mouth and throat infections, and at the end was living on a tablespoon of soup each day.

8/27 – Reuben Hick asked for prayers for the new neighbor, whose house burned down.

8/27 – Katja asked for prayers for the court date this week, which will hopefully bring some order to the chaos for the kids.

8/27 – The_Hoser would appreciate prayers for his 10-year-old daughter to continue to get involved at the church. She and Mrs. Hoser volunteered at the church’s VBS last week, and had a blast.

8/29 – Bete asks for prayers, as he has a pre-interview screening call.

For submission guidelines and other relevant info, please contact Annie's Stew, who is managing the prayer list. You can contact her at apaslo at-sign hotmail dot com. If you see a prayer request posted in a thread comment, feel free to copy and paste it and e-mail it to Annie's Stew. She tries to keep up with the requests in the threads, but she's not here all of the time, so she may not see it unless you e-mail it to her. Please note: Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks or so unless we receive an update.


Romans 8:26-27
26 In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans. 27 And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for God’s people in accordance with the will of God.


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Enjoy this open thread and the last 3 day weekend of Summer. Be nice to one another and for heaven's sake don't run with sharp objects or running chainsaws.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 08:50 AM




Comments

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1 Good Morning All

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 03, 2022 08:52 AM (BRHaw)

2 I feel a little grey today!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 03, 2022 08:52 AM (BRHaw)

3 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at September 03, 2022 08:53 AM (2bMMK)

4 Cutting the yard? Nah, waiting for the famotidine to kick in so breakfast.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 08:54 AM (/jZjK)

5 This is really easy on the eyes.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 08:55 AM (/jZjK)

6 Oh grayt.

Posted by: fd at September 03, 2022 08:55 AM (sn5EN)

7 Good Saturday morning, horde!

Prayers for all.

Posted by: April--dash my lace wigs! at September 03, 2022 08:55 AM (OX9vb)

8 Grey is the color of my true love's hair.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 08:56 AM (/jZjK)

9 Happy International Bacon Day!

Posted by: redridinghood at September 03, 2022 08:56 AM (NpAcC)

10 Everything Turns Grey.

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 03, 2022 08:56 AM (R/m4+)

11 It's National Hummingbird Day. Mrs fd is in the kitchen cooking up a batch of sugar water. We are going to get so wasted.

Posted by: fd at September 03, 2022 08:56 AM (sn5EN)

12 Gray on Grey

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 03, 2022 08:56 AM (BOmIL)

13 Sent you something yesterday, MisHum. Did you see it.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 03, 2022 08:57 AM (7bRMQ)

14 hiya

Posted by: JT at September 03, 2022 08:58 AM (T4tVD)

15 Grey is the color of my true love's hair.
+++++++
Mine too. But she keeps it a nice shade of brunette.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at September 03, 2022 08:58 AM (dr4Q1)

16 Prayers for all. C diff is a nasty thing. My mom had it 3 times.

Love the picture up top.

Posted by: jewells45 at September 03, 2022 08:58 AM (nxdel)

17 Good Saturday morning, horde!

Prayers for all.
Posted by: April--dash my lace wigs!

seconded !

Posted by: JT at September 03, 2022 08:58 AM (T4tVD)

18 Guten Morgen Kameraden!

I'm feeling a little German today.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 03, 2022 09:00 AM (EZebt)

19 Reminders on my iPhone say today is generator maintenance day. Once a quarter, make sure it runs.

Posted by: blaster at September 03, 2022 09:00 AM (6TxNR)

20 Whoa

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 03, 2022 09:00 AM (Do5/p)

21 C.diff. Is nasty and contagious.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 03, 2022 09:01 AM (EZebt)

22 Is the HQ leading the colour revolution?

Posted by: Voter theater. at September 03, 2022 09:01 AM (w4u9V)

23 Gray, gray, my love is gray...

Posted by: Love is gray at September 03, 2022 09:01 AM (GUpWE)

24 I'm feeling a little German today.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

That's against the law !

Posted by: JT at September 03, 2022 09:01 AM (T4tVD)

25 Gray Box Day?

But better than Gay Box Day!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana! ~ at September 03, 2022 09:01 AM (hOUT3)

26 Time's up, off to nuke the sausage biscuit.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 09:02 AM (/jZjK)

27 No coffee, but have cinnamon bagel and apple pie

Posted by: Skip's phone at September 03, 2022 09:02 AM (k8B25)

28 Bete, if you are here this morning, let us know how the preliminary went. Praying hard for you to find appropriate work!

Posted by: April--dash my lace wigs! at September 03, 2022 09:02 AM (OX9vb)

29 Be nice to one another and for heaven's sake don't run with sharp objects or running chainsaws.

How about walking or jogging with running chainsaws?

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 03, 2022 09:02 AM (Do5/p)

30 Gray pride!

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 03, 2022 09:02 AM (GUpWE)

31 Be nice to one another and for heaven's sake don't run with sharp objects or running chainsaws.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 08:50 AM


Darn it, MisHum just ruined my weekend plans, just when I almost had the chainsaw running!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana! ~ at September 03, 2022 09:03 AM (hOUT3)

32 Huh. Two down, only 48 shades of gray to go.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 09:03 AM (llXky)

33 California dreamin' on such a winter's day!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 03, 2022 09:03 AM (yikp0)

34 Yer late. I am on my fourth cup of coffee.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at September 03, 2022 09:05 AM (p9hpe)

35 Strangely, bright sunlight where I'm at.

All the gray must be here.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 09:05 AM (llXky)

36 Hummingbirds must be some of the most aggressive birds. If regular sized birds did combat the way they do there would be bloodshed.

Posted by: fd at September 03, 2022 09:06 AM (sn5EN)

37 All the gray must be here.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 09:05 AM (llXky)


Wait until Brandon brings the gray...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana! ~ at September 03, 2022 09:06 AM (hOUT3)

38 No coffee, but have cinnamon bagel and apple pie
Posted by: Skip's phone at September 03, 2022 09:02 AM (k8B25)
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While we are discussing what's against the law, you can add that cinnamon bagel. So wrong. Have two slices of pie instead.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 03, 2022 09:06 AM (EZebt)

39 Police evacuate stores in Mississippi after a pilot of a ‘stolen’ aircraft threatens to crash into a Walmart

https://tinyurl.com/44syuk7h

Posted by: redridinghood at September 03, 2022 09:07 AM (NpAcC)

40 31 Be nice to one another and for heaven's sake don't run with sharp objects or running chainsaws.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 08:50 AM

Darn it, MisHum just ruined my weekend plans, just when I almost had the chainsaw running!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana! ~ at September 03, 2022 09:03 AM (hOUT3)

Go for it, set an example for the others.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 03, 2022 09:07 AM (aA3+G)

41 Is the COB a Buckeye fan? Is that what this is about?

Today I will reassemble the antenna and commence watching broadcast television for the first time since college football ended in January. No idea who is playing, I just like watching it while napping on the couch.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 09:08 AM (llXky)

42 I take cinnamon bagels for break time because they are good as is.

Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2022 09:08 AM (k8B25)

43 Be nice to one another and for heaven's sake don't run with sharp objects or running chainsaws.
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How about walking or jogging with running chainsaws?
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 03, 2022 09:02 AM (Do5/p)

If we don't run with them, how are we supposed to catch them? If our forefathers took that attitude, we never would have corralled any of them, and this world would be a much treer place.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 09:08 AM (NWBBy)

44 We are all graytful deadheads now...

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at September 03, 2022 09:08 AM (GUpWE)

45 I can kind of see being willing to die to make an important moral point: but for Walmart?

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 03, 2022 09:08 AM (r46W7)

46 I view the removal of the gray boxwes as a clear sign that I can now go run with my chainsaw!
BBL!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana! ~ at September 03, 2022 09:08 AM (hOUT3)

47 T. Rex race

https://ytube.io/3Vme

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 03, 2022 09:09 AM (yQpMk)

48 A.H. Lloyd, I am looking forward to football, too. I still like college ball.

Posted by: April--dash my lace wigs! at September 03, 2022 09:11 AM (OX9vb)

49 45 I can kind of see being willing to die to make an important moral point: but for Walmart?
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 03, 2022 09:08 AM (r46W7)

Die for something or live for nothing.

If, when you are whiteboarding this idea 'Walmart' is the top choice... I am not sure I have an appropriate pithy comment.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 03, 2022 09:11 AM (dNqv+)

50 Morning.
======================
Police evacuate stores in Mississippi after a pilot of a ‘stolen’ aircraft threatens to crash into a Walmart

https://tinyurl.com/44syuk7h
Posted by: redridinghood at September 03, 2022 09:07 AM (NpAcC)

Watch out for falling...prices?

Posted by: Robert at September 03, 2022 09:12 AM (1Yy3c)

51 "Police evacuate stores in Mississippi after a pilot of a ‘stolen’ aircraft threatens to crash into a Walmart."


Lots of cans in a WalMart. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Navin at September 03, 2022 09:13 AM (oTZbj)

52 I take cinnamon bagels for break time because they are good as is.
Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2022 09:08 AM (k8B25)
******
I like to sprinkle a cinnamon/sugar mix on top to give them an extra cinnamon flavor. Splenda works well too.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 03, 2022 09:14 AM (NpAcC)

53 I take cinnamon bagels for break time because they are good as is.
Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2022 09:08 AM (k8B25)
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Just put the cinnamon bagel down! Everything bagel ftw!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 03, 2022 09:14 AM (EZebt)

54 At DM, ex porn star bemoans her degenerate baby daddy:

"I swear to God I thought NBA players were nice guys."

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at September 03, 2022 09:14 AM (24fqN)

55 > "Police evacuate stores in Mississippi after a pilot of a ‘stolen’ aircraft threatens to crash into a Walmart."
_______________

Weirdly specific set of circumstances right there.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 03, 2022 09:14 AM (BFigT)

56 A.H. Lloyd, I am looking forward to football, too. I still like college ball.

Posted by: April--dash my lace wigs! at September 03, 2022 09:11 AM (OX9vb)
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My favorite games are the ones where I don't care who wins but they're important rivalries and such. Plus college football is so unpredictable.

Okay, that's not quite true - my favorite games are when Michigan loses. Can't get enough of those Wolverine tears.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 09:15 AM (llXky)

57 Anyone caught with a cinnamon bagel spends a night in the box.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 03, 2022 09:15 AM (EZebt)

58
If, when you are whiteboarding this idea 'Walmart' is the top choice... I am not sure I have an appropriate pithy comment.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 03, 2022 09:11 AM (dNqv+)
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Couldn't find a Kmart.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 09:16 AM (llXky)

59 This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Cinnamon Bagel at September 03, 2022 09:16 AM (GUpWE)

60 "waiting for the famotidine to kick in"

Stuff works instantly for me, but I don't swallow the pills whole; I chew em up for quick action.

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at September 03, 2022 09:17 AM (24fqN)

61 Just put the cinnamon bagel down! Everything bagel ftw!
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Cinnamon's great, as long as there are no raisins.

I like a good salt bagel. And pumpernickel. Also blueberry. Alas, no bagel shops in my small southeastern Ohio village.

Posted by: April--dash my lace wigs! at September 03, 2022 09:17 AM (OX9vb)

62 The picture up top - I woke up early this morning (about 5:30) because I heard a big bang downstairs and thought "wtf was that?" So I went down and never figured that out, but the cat was wandering around the area looking guilty. I asked what happened and she just looked at me and said "mrow".

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 03, 2022 09:17 AM (r46W7)

63 My vending machine water tastes a little fruity.
Store down the street uses a different vendor
I'll try it next time even though it's less convenient.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 09:17 AM (/jZjK)

64 Theodore Dalrymple interview

https://youtu.be/UgUIFDVesXQ

He has a wonderful style of writing and great essays.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 03, 2022 09:18 AM (ybIRR)

65 Just put the cinnamon bagel down! Everything bagel ftw!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 03, 2022 09:14 AM (EZebt)
******
I like Everything bagels for lunch topped with homemade chicken salad.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 03, 2022 09:18 AM (NpAcC)

66
I was at a Lowes a couple days ago and some sort of public service message came through the sound system, a couple of minutes long. It was then repeated in Spanish.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 03, 2022 09:19 AM (jE276)

67 My vending machine water tastes a little fruity.
Store down the street uses a different vendor
I'll try it next time even though it's less convenient.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 09:17 AM (/jZjK)
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Maybe the machine is light in the loafers.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 09:19 AM (llXky)

68 Trying to find a new scope for the M82. The old one is kaput.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 03, 2022 09:20 AM (BxH25)

69 If, when you are whiteboarding this idea 'Walmart' is the top choice... I am not sure I have an appropriate pithy comment.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 03, 2022 09:11 AM (dNqv+)

I supposed it's impossible to unravel it all now, but if one was looking at where we are now, where everything is manufactured in China, and sold to us by Walmart and Amazon, almost exclusively, we didn't just get here because of greedy unions, and evil commie Chinese.

The Republican Party was there at the start, orchestrating much of this.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 09:20 AM (NWBBy)

70 Excellent. The cinnamon bagel distraction is working...

Posted by: Pumpkin Spice Everything at September 03, 2022 09:20 AM (GUpWE)

71 >>> 62 The picture up top - I woke up early this morning (about 5:30) because I heard a big bang downstairs and thought "wtf was that?" So I went down and never figured that out, but the cat was wandering around the area looking guilty. I asked what happened and she just looked at me and said "mrow".
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 03, 2022 09:17 AM (r46W7)

I meant to roll off the top of the bookcase.

Posted by: Tom Servo's cat at September 03, 2022 09:20 AM (llON8)

72 Speaking of prayer, I never thanked the horde for prayers given last week for our friends son. Covid vax related. He was released from the hospital yesterday. He had swelling in the brain when he was admitted and they weren't confident he would survive . He and his family still need prayer . Their life has been side swiped by his vax related crap. The current plan is to sell their house and move back to this area into gis parents ( our friends) basement

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at September 03, 2022 09:20 AM (p9hpe)

73 Mornin' from work, all

Love the top pic!

Posted by: My Life is Insanity at September 03, 2022 09:20 AM (fInJv)

74 Excellent. The cinnamon bagel distraction is working...

Posted by: Pumpkin Spice Everything at September 03, 2022 09:20 AM (GUpWE)
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*ignites pilot light on flamethrower*

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 09:21 AM (llXky)

75 I was at a Lowes a couple days ago and some sort of public service message came through the sound system, a couple of minutes long. It was then repeated in Spanish.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 03, 2022 09:19 AM (jE276)

Were they apologizing for occupying Indian land?

Posted by: Robert at September 03, 2022 09:22 AM (1Yy3c)

76 I've never looked for a bagel here in NM, they'ed probably put green chili in it anyway.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 03, 2022 09:22 AM (BOmIL)

77 Before 9/11 was working about 20 miles from NY in Jersey, at a Homey Depot they had duel announcements in English and Spanish. 9/11 we had a couple guys working there that day.

Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2022 09:23 AM (k8B25)

78 Some of those Prayer requests were pretty brutal.

"Iowaan asks for prayers to remember his wife of 32 years, Sharon,"

You bet.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 03, 2022 09:23 AM (qH6FZ)

79 Excellent. The cinnamon bagel distraction is working...
Posted by: Pumpkin Spice Everything at September 03, 2022 09:20 AM (GUpWE)

All the truck stop started putting out pumpkin spice creamer.

White Girl Season is in full swing.

Posted by: Robert at September 03, 2022 09:24 AM (1Yy3c)

80 Steve Bannon's home swatted for second time.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 03, 2022 09:24 AM (H8QX8)

81 Put some Old Bay on that cinnamon bagel.

Posted by: New Orleans at September 03, 2022 09:24 AM (GUpWE)

82 Bagels around here come stacked in a bag.
In a Long Island office a person comes in with these pastries piled high with whipped cream.

I asked what they were. Bagels. Really? Of course, want one? Sure.
It wasn't whipped cream but a bagel I'd never tasted before. Delicious.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 09:24 AM (/jZjK)

83 Just pulling this over from the tech thread:

87 So the bank problem turns out to be me. I won't use Chrome or IE or any of the other big browsers. Banks are refusing to accept Pale Moon or Brave for account login.

One would assume this is to make it easier to track our financial transactions...
Posted by: creeper at September 03, 2022 06:25 AM (cTCuP)
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I've had this issue before. It's actually less sinister than you think. Basically, the bank wants to make sure your browser is compatible with their code. Unfortunately, some places only test with the popular browsers.

Anyway, they have a whitelist of browsers based on information received from the browser (basically the browser version information). Pale Moon and Brave are sometimes not on the whitelist.

That said, you can get Pale Moon and Brave to send the version info of the browser they're forked from. I forget the process, but I recall it's pretty simple (you need to manually enter some information).

Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 03, 2022 09:25 AM (RFKzk)

84 At DM, ex porn star bemoans her degenerate baby daddy:

"I swear to God I thought NBA players were nice guys."
Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at September 03, 2022 09:14 AM (24fqN)

Russian frontline soldier's June 23, 1941 DM: I swear to Karl Marx I thought German soldiers were nice guys.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 09:25 AM (NWBBy)

85 Middle daughter came home yesterday after spending two weeks treating gunshot wounds in Chicago. She's an EMT in the ANG, so that was her annual training.

She missed a day of class at college, and her original lodging fell through, so quite a bit going on, but she found a temporary place and is filling out apartment applications.

Once she get settled, only one left in the nest, a high school senior. While it was just the three of us, food consumption cut us down to only 3 meals a week. Leftovers covered the rest.

I'm liking this, especially with food prices going up.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 09:25 AM (llXky)

86 We got a weird recorded phone call yesterday. It was from Blue Cross/Blue Shield informing us of the importance of getting a "flu shot." Not a COVID shot, just the regular flu.

I'm suspicious.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 03, 2022 09:25 AM (BFigT)

87 Everything Turns Grey.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 03, 2022 08:56 AM (R/m4+)

Unless it turns loose, first.

Posted by: BignJames at September 03, 2022 09:26 AM (AwYPR)

88 >>Cinnamon's great, as long as there are no raisins.
Posted by: April--dash my lace wigs! at September 03, 2022 09:17 AM (OX9vb)

Aw geez, I was just going to say cinnamon bagels with raisins are better!

Posted by: My Life is Insanity at September 03, 2022 09:26 AM (fInJv)

89 I like a good salt bagel. And pumpernickel. Also blueberry.
Posted by: April--dash my lace wigs! at September 03, 2022 09:17 AM (OX9vb)
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Has the whole world gone insane!!!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 03, 2022 09:26 AM (EZebt)

90 Steve Bannon's home swatted for second time.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 03, 2022 09:24 AM (H8QX
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Guys like Bannon enjoy this. Great for the brand.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 09:26 AM (llXky)

91 80 Steve Bannon's home swatted for second time.
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 03, 2022 09:24 AM (H8QX
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They are going for a two'fer.
Either one of ours get shot or one of ours shoots someone. Either way they win.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 09:27 AM (/jZjK)

92 to only 3 meals a week. Leftovers covered the rest.

I'm liking this, especially with food prices going up.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

3 meals covered (7x3=21, 21-3=1 18 meals for 3 people?
A real loaves and fishes thing going on there...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 03, 2022 09:28 AM (KhQzT)

93 Guys like Bannon enjoy this. Great for the brand.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 09:26 AM (llXky)

Good for him. Make hay of it. That's probably the best attitude.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 03, 2022 09:28 AM (H8QX8)

94 We got a weird recorded phone call yesterday. It was from Blue Cross/Blue Shield informing us of the importance of getting a "flu shot." Not a COVID shot, just the regular flu.

I'm suspicious.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 03, 2022 09:25 AM (BFigT)
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Season opener in East Lansing last night. I went out to grab a pizza before the couches started burning. Tailgating was off the hook and not a mask in sight.

It's over. Real people are done with it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 09:28 AM (llXky)

95 Prayers out to those seeking them. As you seek the Lord, may he hear you and carry you upon the lighted path.

"Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires."

Romans 8:5

Posted by: Marcus T at September 03, 2022 09:28 AM (BxH25)

96 Video of the Walmart plane circling, here:

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/
1566047859920834561

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 03, 2022 09:28 AM (yikp0)

97 We got a weird recorded phone call yesterday. It was from Blue Cross/Blue Shield informing us of the importance of getting a "flu shot." Not a COVID shot, just the regular flu.

I'm suspicious.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 03, 2022 09:25 AM (BFigT)

Pfizer don't care what shot you get. Bill Gates will do his medical experiments on all of us, one way or another.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 09:29 AM (NWBBy)

98 3 meals covered (7x3=21, 21-3=1 18 meals for 3 people?
A real loaves and fishes thing going on there...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 03, 2022 09:28 AM (KhQzT)
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Our default meal size is for five people, plus leftovers. Subtract down, and it goes a lot farther. Plus, on Friday we get pizza, which is a meal, but one we don't actually prepare.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 09:30 AM (llXky)

99 (MLii mine do have raisins, shhhh don't tell anyone)

Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2022 09:30 AM (k8B25)

100 I know a very small youtuber who explained that he had a conversation with local law enforcement, saying basically "people on the internet have been known to swat, and I say things that some people don't like, so I'm telling you now that I'm not a crazed maniac."

No excuse for Tim Pool's swat, and it seems like a stunt at this point.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 03, 2022 09:31 AM (ybIRR)

101 I like a good salt bagel. And pumpernickel. Also blueberry.
Posted by: April--dash my lace wigs! at September 03, 2022 09:17 AM (OX9vb)
====

Has the whole world gone insane!!!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 03, 2022 09:26 AM (EZebt)

Things have gotten a little out of hand.

Posted by: Guy with purple hair wearing a sundress with dainty spaghetti straps at September 03, 2022 09:31 AM (1Yy3c)

102 "I swear to God I thought NBA players were nice guys."

And that turkeys could fly.

Posted by: Les Nessman at September 03, 2022 09:31 AM (GUpWE)

103 Re the swattings: As others have noted, the LE ability to find the source is common and widespread - just look at how they went after the J6 crowd. It's not even limited to the Feds anymore - any old county sheriff has access to that technology - cameras, cell phone locators, etc. Can use direct and indirect methods. The perpetrators know there's a low chance of getting caught, so these will continue.

Posted by: goatexchange at September 03, 2022 09:32 AM (APPN8)

104 I see math. The coffee must have kicked in.

Posted by: davidt at September 03, 2022 09:32 AM (oTZbj)

105 One would assume this is to make it easier to track our financial transactions...
Posted by: creeper at
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I don't do online banking. I don't give other companies my routing number. If they want to give my bank their routing number therefore my bank puts my money into their account (as it should be).

To much information sharing all around as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 09:32 AM (/jZjK)

106 Standard weekly fare at Chateau Lloyd: cooked food Sunday - Wednesday, leftovers Thursday, pizza Friday and Saturday OYO.

Now we've basically got leftovers on Wednesday and Thursday, so one less prepared meal. Leftover pizza bleeds through the week, so less lunch supplies.

Emptying nest = big savings!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 09:32 AM (llXky)

107 (MLii mine do have raisins, shhhh don't tell anyone)
Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2022 09:30 AM (k8B25)
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*points and screams like Donald Sutherland in Invasion of the Body Snatchers*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 03, 2022 09:32 AM (EZebt)

108 Our default meal size is for five people, plus leftovers. Subtract down, and it goes a lot farther. Plus, on Friday we get pizza, which is a meal, but one we don't actually prepare.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

I knew it had to do with the size of the meal prep... but, it looked 'funny'.
Sorry about the early math... or any math!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 03, 2022 09:33 AM (KhQzT)

109 I like a good salt bagel.

Posted by: April--dash my lace wigs! at September 03, 2022 09:17 AM (OX9vb)
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That is the correct answer.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 09:33 AM (llXky)

110 "8/15 – Cosda asks for prayers for her sister, whose regularly scheduled colonoscopy revealed a problem. The sister will be having her ascending colon removed next week":
*************
My sister's surgery went well and she's back home with no complications. We are still waiting on the lab results. Again thanks for all your prayers.

Posted by: Cosda at September 03, 2022 09:34 AM (kchaE)

111 The cops love the swattings

gives them a chance to put on their fancy costumes and play Rambo

Posted by: REDACTED at September 03, 2022 09:34 AM (us2H3)

112 Artemis launch update. Having same problem that cancelled the first launch earlier this week: Liquid hydrogen quick disconnect leak.

Posted by: WisRich at September 03, 2022 09:34 AM (qKfc+)

113 >> (MLii mine do have raisins, shhhh don't tell anyone)
Posted by: Skip

I knew there was a reason I liked you !

Posted by: My Life is Insanity at September 03, 2022 09:35 AM (fInJv)

114 Posted by: goatexchange at September 03, 2022 09:32 AM (APPN

So you think the LE know the source? Bannon asserts that it came directly from WH. He says the voice was electronically disguised, "very sophisticated."

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 03, 2022 09:35 AM (H8QX8)

115 Many companies will take auto-pay from credit cards.
That's much safer than a bank. They are taking money from the Card not your account, they are invested in that exchange a bank doesn't gas.


Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 09:35 AM (/jZjK)

116 https://www.danielgreenfield.org/2022/09/
biden-is-paying-osama-bin-ladens-old.html

They can't shovel money to the Afghan Taliban fast enough

Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2022 09:35 AM (k8B25)

117 Emptying nest = big savings!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 09:32 AM (llXky)

Saving people money long term is what we've been doing for years.

Posted by: Planned Parenthood at September 03, 2022 09:35 AM (1Yy3c)

118 Can use direct and indirect methods. The perpetrators know there's a low chance of getting caught, so these will continue.

Posted by: goatexchange at September 03, 2022 09:32 AM (APPN
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GOPers that live in Dem jurisdictions have made a tradeoff. They want access to power, and that comes with greater risk.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 09:36 AM (llXky)

119 Leftover pizza bleeds through the week, so less lunch supplies.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

I don't understand the phrase 'leftover pizza'...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 03, 2022 09:37 AM (KhQzT)

120 Oh! Big News from the medical community! HUGE!

According to my GP, DREs* are no longer being performed as a regular part of the over-a-certain-age male population's annual check-up!

WHY has this not been shouted from the rooftops!?!?!

*Digital Rectal Examination

Posted by: goatexchange at September 03, 2022 09:37 AM (APPN8)

121 Thanks for all the prayers for the elder child. He is doing better, anti-emetics have been allowing him to eat for the last week+, and he's able to work again. All good. He's getting a referal for an GI doc to take a peek to see if they can determine exactly why he's having his issues.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2022 09:38 AM (ynpvh)

122 111 The cops love the swattings

gives them a chance to put on their fancy costumes and play Rambo
Posted by: REDACTED at September 03, 2022 09:34 AM (us2H3)

I was witness to one at my neighbor's -- not a "swatting" exactly but a full-on SWAT Team raid of a pathetic, squalid mobile home. 40 vehicles, probably 50 officers decked out in Navy SEAL tack, SWAT vehicle the size of a garbage truck. All in rural SC. Absurd. It lasted several hours. Turned out no one was even home.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 03, 2022 09:38 AM (H8QX8)

123 120 Oh! Big News from the medical community! HUGE!

According to my GP, DREs* are no longer being performed as a regular part of the over-a-certain-age male population's annual check-up!

WHY has this not been shouted from the rooftops!?!?!

*Digital Rectal Examination

Posted by: goatexchange at September 03, 2022 09:37 AM (APPN

*Now more ANALog..

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2022 09:39 AM (ynpvh)

124 Bagel -Honorable mentions:
Onion, sesame, chocolate chip and French toast. The French toast ones are hard to find, but delicious.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 03, 2022 09:39 AM (NpAcC)

125 Again thanks for all your prayers.
Posted by: Cosda

Prayers up for 'all clear' report.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 03, 2022 09:39 AM (KhQzT)

126 A.H. Lloyd, I am looking forward to football, too. I still like college ball.
+++++
I used to have a college football team that I was a big fan of. I went to a lot of their games. Had their t-shirts, watched them on tv.

Then a couple of years ago the football players started leading black lives matter marches and having rallies on campus.
Also wearing blm stuff on their uniforms.
I don't have a favorite college football team anymore.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at September 03, 2022 09:39 AM (dr4Q1)

127 It is thought that Pumpkin Spice is the whitest flavor, but it is not. It is popular in Central America and Mexico, too.

No, the whitest flavor is Sauerkraut.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 03, 2022 09:40 AM (xhaym)

128 8 Grey is the color of my true love's hair.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 08:56 AM (/jZjK)

My Wife is sportin' the Jada Pinket Smith look. I'm glad she's such a good sport about it (and hopes it comes back like it did the first time she lost it to chemo more than a decade ago: with beatiful natural curl folks raved about).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2022 09:40 AM (ynpvh)

129 116 https://www.danielgreenfield.org/2022/09/
biden-is-paying-osama-bin-ladens-old.html

They can't shovel money to the Afghan Taliban fast enough
Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2022 09:35 AM (k8B25)
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Some of that money never leaves the States.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 09:40 AM (/jZjK)

130 I bought a couple of ignition coils for my Cheetah from Amazon and they offered me 2 day shipping if I would sign up for a free trial of Prime

so, I got my coils and now Amazon is crying to me that my card aint no good when they tried it for Prime

suckers

Posted by: REDACTED at September 03, 2022 09:40 AM (us2H3)

131 Oh! Big News from the medical community! HUGE!
According to my GP, DREs are no longer being performed as a regular part of the over-a-certain-age male population's annual check-up!
WHY has this not been shouted from the rooftops!?!?!
Digital Rectal Examination
Posted by: goatexchange at September 03, 2022 09:37 AM (APPN

When I get my 6 months check up, I demand it.

It is the only proper way to take your temperature.

More coffee...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 03, 2022 09:40 AM (R/m4+)

132 No, the whitest flavor is Sauerkraut.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 03, 2022 09:40 AM (xhaym)
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Fruit in jello. Whiter than mayonnaise.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 09:41 AM (llXky)

133 *WHY has this not been shouted from the rooftops!?!?*

We're on strike right now. We want $22 an hour.

Posted by: Rooftop Shouters local #8288 at September 03, 2022 09:41 AM (GUpWE)

134 -
*Now more ANALog..

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2022 09:39 AM -
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(golf clap)

Posted by: irright at September 03, 2022 09:41 AM (NTUk0)

135 25 Gray Box Day?

But better than Gay Box Day!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana! ~ at September 03, 2022 09:01 AM (hOUT3)

Boxing day is December 26th. When is GAY boxing day?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2022 09:41 AM (ynpvh)

136 My 25 yo son moved out earlier this summer into a rent home shared with friends. It's good to see him get out on his own feet. Even better have been the $$ savings in water, gas, electricity, and food!

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 03, 2022 09:42 AM (4I/2K)

137
*Digital Rectal Examination

Posted by: goatexchange at September 03, 2022 09:37 AM


I had exam a couple days ago by Nurse Practitioner and no mention of the DRE. She and I did not hit it off very well after she took my BP and I informed her the results were obtained outside of correct protocol. We had been discussing the vax and some politics and were disagreeing. Of course my BP was high.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 03, 2022 09:42 AM (jE276)

138 Sending prayers for all those in need.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 03, 2022 09:42 AM (NpAcC)

139
No, the whitest flavor is Sauerkraut.
Posted by: Kindltot

Kimchi lovers rejoice as they can now be accepted to Harvard.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 03, 2022 09:42 AM (KhQzT)

140 Then a couple of years ago the football players started leading black lives matter marches and having rallies on campus.
Also wearing blm stuff on their uniforms.
I don't have a favorite college football team anymore.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at September 03, 2022 09:39 AM (dr4Q1)
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Are they still doing it? Keep in mind that teams turn over very quickly, as do coaches.

A lot of schools went nuts, got punished by alumni and then decided to drop the woke crap.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 09:43 AM (llXky)

141 132 No, the whitest flavor is Sauerkraut.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 03, 2022 09:40 AM (xhaym)
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Fruit in jello. Whiter than mayonnaise.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 09:41 AM (llXky)

White bread, man. Don't get much whiter than that.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2022 09:43 AM (ynpvh)

142 Dutch must have a very big game hunting culture, they all wear orange hats and coats

Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2022 09:43 AM (k8B25)

143 62 The picture up top - I woke up early this morning (about 5:30) because I heard a big bang downstairs and thought "wtf was that?" So I went down and never figured that out, but the cat was wandering around the area looking guilty. I asked what happened and she just looked at me and said "mrow".
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 03, 2022 09:17 AM (r46W7)

Yesterday, while I'm at my desk, there was a crash inside the closet behind me and then the sound of something sliding around in there and the door swung open and a sweater deposited itself on the floor. A ... squirrel? But it was a sticky-backed hook that came loose from the inside of the closet door, bringing down the hook and the jacket that had been hooked onto it.

Posted by: m at September 03, 2022 09:44 AM (GkGYg)

144
Going to the gun show today, first time in nearly 3 years.

Of course, this will also be the first gun show since I had to move back to CA, so it's probably better to call it the Beef Jerky and Homeopathic Perfume Show (Oh, and some guns)

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 03, 2022 09:45 AM (KYKwc)

145 Agree that college football is marginally better than the pros. However, the reason we have such entitled, elitist, out of touch, and arrogant pro athletes is because it starts in grade school and is reinforced at every subsequent level.

Posted by: goatexchange at September 03, 2022 09:45 AM (APPN8)

146 144
Going to the gun show today, first time in nearly 3 years.

Of course, this will also be the first gun show since I had to move back to CA, so it's probably better to call it the Beef Jerky and Homeopathic Perfume Show (Oh, and some guns)

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 03, 2022 09:45 AM (KYKwc)

CA is the ASSHOE.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2022 09:45 AM (ynpvh)

147 Prayers for all the Horde intentions.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 03, 2022 09:46 AM (KhQzT)

148 94. Princeton is awash in vitreous masks.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 09:46 AM (Zzbjj)

149 Video of the Walmart plane circling, here:

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/
1566047859920834561
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0)

Tupelo? That's Elvis' home town!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 03, 2022 09:46 AM (FVME7)

150 Are they still doing it? Keep in mind that teams turn over very quickly, as do coaches.

A lot of schools went nuts, got punished by alumni and then decided to drop the woke crap.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022
+++++
I don't know. Haven't watched.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at September 03, 2022 09:47 AM (dr4Q1)

151 Boiled potato in salty water sauce. That's white.

Posted by: 13times at September 03, 2022 09:47 AM (a6aSK)

152 40 31 Be nice to one another and for heaven's sake don't run with sharp objects or running chainsaws.
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 08:50 AM

Darn it, MisHum just ruined my weekend plans, just when I almost had the chainsaw running!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana! ~ at September 03, 2022 09:03 AM (hOUT3)

Go for it, set an example for the others.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 03, 2022 09:07 AM (aA3+G)

How else is the chainsaw gonna get its exercise?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2022 09:47 AM (ynpvh)

153 145. Money= privilege = entitlement.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 09:47 AM (Zzbjj)

154 Dutch must have a very big game hunting culture, they all wear orange hats and coats

Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2022 09:43 AM (k8B25)
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Big Dutch population in West Michigan. Most GOP which is why Peter Meijer getting whacked in a primary was big news.

The east side is more varied, but has a pronounced Catholic component to it. Thus, east-side fundraisers tend to have liquor whereas west side are mostly beer.

This translates into party preferences: Democrats hit the hard stuff, Republicans prefer beer. I mentioned this to a veteran politician who had to blink before admitting it was true.

Also why our liquor laws are so screwed up here.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 09:48 AM (llXky)

155 My by far fav bagel is a toasted poppyseed bagel. There something about the toasting of the seeds that really makes the bagel pop

and I have lived and travel extensively in the Northeast for 30 years and had a lot of bagels

the best bagel I have ever had is from Brookside bagles in Simsbury CT

poppyseed bagel literally black from poppyseeds

Posted by: REDACTED at September 03, 2022 09:48 AM (us2H3)

156 Boiled potatoes or rice, doesn't get whiter

Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2022 09:48 AM (k8B25)

157 151 Boiled potato in salty water sauce. That's white.

Posted by: 13times at September 03, 2022 09:47 AM (a6aSK)

A good start, once drained, for making mashed potatoes. Also white.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2022 09:48 AM (ynpvh)

158 I got reminded at my annual that it's coming up on Flu season and that Walmart is offering the shots already.
As an RN I had to get them to work; but, since the Wuflu hit I haven't felt the need.
Don't know if I'll make the effort this year either.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 03, 2022 09:48 AM (KhQzT)

159 *Boiled potato in salty water sauce. That's white.*

This is about us, isn't it?

Posted by: The Irish at September 03, 2022 09:48 AM (GUpWE)

160 I tried to watch Amazon's "Rings of Power" crapola last night. I really tried.

Good God, the writing is terrible, and the actors aren't much better.

The only remotely plausible part in what I saw was when Galadriel, Warrior Princess's troops mutinied. Too bad they didn't have fragmentation grenades in the First Age, or this turkey could have been cut mercifully short.

I tapped out for good about 20 minutes in, when "Elrond" started flirting with "Galadriel". That was it. I turned it off and won't be back.

She is his mother-in-law, you fucking half-wits. These are elves, not Bidens.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 03, 2022 09:48 AM (bW8dp)

161 143. Much better than a squirrel. I'd be thankful

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 09:49 AM (Zzbjj)

162 156 Boiled potatoes or rice, doesn't get whiter

Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2022 09:48 AM (k8B25)

Don't forget the rice of color. Not all rice is white, only once it's been "white-washed", so to speak.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2022 09:49 AM (ynpvh)

163 Princeton is awash in vitreous masks.
Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 09:46 AM (Zzbjj)


Berkley is supposed to go mandatory masks for flu seasons from now on.
This is a school with a medical school and a biomedical engineering program

Posted by: Kindltot at September 03, 2022 09:49 AM (xhaym)

164 According to my GP, DREs* are no longer being performed as a regular part of the over-a-certain-age male population's annual check-up!

WHY has this not been shouted from the rooftops!?!?!

*Digital Rectal Examination

Posted by: goatexchange

Aliens giving them away for free priced the GPs out of the market.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 03, 2022 09:50 AM (FVME7)

165 159 *Boiled potato in salty water sauce. That's white.*

This is about us, isn't it?

Posted by: The Irish at September 03, 2022 09:48 AM (GUpWE)

A swipe at the Incans and all the potatoes they grew before any whiteys saw their first tuber.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2022 09:50 AM (ynpvh)

166 I was witness to one at my neighbor's -- not a "swatting" exactly but a full-on SWAT Team raid of a pathetic, squalid mobile home. 40 vehicles, probably 50 officers decked out in Navy SEAL tack, SWAT vehicle the size of a garbage truck. All in rural SC. Absurd. It lasted several hours. Turned out no one was even home.
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 03, 2022 09:38 AM (H8QX

Is the LE presence friendly and pleasant? I'm sure it would be more friendly if you convinced the mayor to sell the tank.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 03, 2022 09:50 AM (ybIRR)

167 Agree that college football is marginally better than the pros. However, the reason we have such entitled, elitist, out of touch, and arrogant pro athletes is because it starts in grade school and is reinforced at every subsequent level.

Posted by: goatexchange at September 03, 2022 09:45 AM (APPN
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I think it is much better. The vast majority of college football players will not go pro. Even in elite schools, most won't get drafted and bunch who do will get cut even then.

What that means is that the bulk of the teams (especially in the weaker schools) are there for the fun of it. People forget that part - it's a one-time chance for men to push themselves and experience competition on a big stage. They will never get anything like it.

Plus there's the secondary part of it, like cheerleaders, pep squads and bands. I wouldn't trade marching at half time for anything. Such a great (and fleeting) experience.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 09:51 AM (llXky)

168 I got it boys. Include a free coffin with each new membership.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at September 03, 2022 09:51 AM (KndtS)

169 Oh, and there were some completely unnecessary shots of child "Galadriel" against the light in a thin transparent gown. Borderline pedo shit, if you ask me.

Later there were similar shots of adult "Galadriel". Those might actually have been welcome, except frankly the actress just isn't all that hot.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 03, 2022 09:51 AM (bW8dp)

170 158. For the last 4 years I worked flu shots were mandatory, as was the idiotic sticker you had to wear on your ID badge to demonstrate your compliance. A yellow duck face? The goal was degradation

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 09:52 AM (Zzbjj)

171 Agree that college football is marginally better than the pros. However, the reason we have such entitled, elitist, out of touch, and arrogant pro athletes is because it starts in grade school and is reinforced at every subsequent level.
Posted by: goatexchange at September 03, 2022 09:45 AM (APPN

That, and part of the reason every person who sends his precious to a big football school, only to have her come back with purple hair, nose rings, and a lesbian transjenner BLM/Antifa themfriend, is because dad is paying for it through his football dollars.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 09:52 AM (NWBBy)

172 To put it another way, all sports rely on money, and there was no "golden age" when college sports were clean and pure. Before the invention of the athletic scholarship, boosters just paid players directly and the schools shrugged and said they had no authority over alumni off campus.

I think it's cool for kids to be able to say they tackled some future NFL great, or hit them in practice.

See the forest for the trees, folks.

The NFL, on the other hand, is corrupt and needs to die.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 09:52 AM (llXky)

173 I am at the job on this beautiful day and look forward to a few days off. Will actually do some work on commie voter reward day.

Posted by: Eromero at September 03, 2022 09:53 AM (oRWDD)

174 Not vitreous, virtuous! Autocorrect is asshoe

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 09:53 AM (Zzbjj)

175 natto temaki with a masu of gold infused sake

that's bright white to me

Posted by: REDACTED at September 03, 2022 09:53 AM (us2H3)

176 169 Oh, and there were some completely unnecessary shots of child "Galadriel" against the light in a thin transparent gown. Borderline pedo shit, if you ask me.

Later there were similar shots of adult "Galadriel". Those might actually have been welcome, except frankly the actress just isn't all that hot.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 03, 2022 09:51 AM (bW8dp)

Especially when you saw the outline of her penis...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2022 09:53 AM (ynpvh)

177 A yellow duck face? The goal was degradation
Posted by: CN

Reminds me of a certain yellow start...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 03, 2022 09:54 AM (KhQzT)

178 It's always about the Irish. And when it's not? Scots-Irish.

Posted by: 13times at September 03, 2022 09:54 AM (a6aSK)

179 174 Not vitreous, virtuous! Autocorrect is asshoe

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 09:53 AM (Zzbjj)

But making sure your vitreous humors flow correctly is the entire point of those masks. Now go get your leeching...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2022 09:54 AM (ynpvh)

180 Going to the gun show today, first time in nearly 3 years.

Of course, this will also be the first gun show since I had to move back to CA, so it's probably better to call it the Beef Jerky and Homeopathic Perfume Show (Oh, and some guns)

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 03, 2022 09:45 AM (KYKwc)

Pick me up some loopholes?

Posted by: BignJames at September 03, 2022 09:54 AM (AwYPR)

181 I tapped out for good about 20 minutes in, when "Elrond" started flirting with "Galadriel". That was it. I turned it off and won't be back.

She is his mother-in-law, you fucking half-wits. These are elves, not Bidens.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 03, 2022 09:48 AM (bW8dp)
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No one involved read any of the source material.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 09:55 AM (llXky)

182 163. Masks forever. Anyone who didn't get the shot for medical reasons had to wear a blue mask, and could not eat in the building.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 09:55 AM (Zzbjj)

183 Well, somebody liked it.

Pelosi: Biden's Insane Speech "Optimistic and Inspiring"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 03, 2022 09:55 AM (FVME7)

184 Nothing wrong with Digital Rectal Exams

Posted by: Pete Bootyjudge at September 03, 2022 09:55 AM (flINI)

185 That, and part of the reason every person who sends his precious to a big football school, only to have her come back with purple hair, nose rings, and a lesbian transjenner BLM/Antifa themfriend, is because dad is paying for it through his football dollars.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 09:52 AM (NWBBy)
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This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: The University of Michigan at September 03, 2022 09:56 AM (llXky)

186 It wasn't whipped cream but a bagel I'd never tasted before. Delicious.

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Brae, I think they might call that cream cheese.

Posted by: From about that time at September 03, 2022 09:56 AM (4780s)

187 Isn't "swatting" a crime? I'd like to know if the local law enforcement departments that scramble their SWAT teams for false reports look into who called it in.

Especially after the 2nd, 3rd or 4th time to the same address.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 03, 2022 09:56 AM (BFigT)

188 Vitreous masks were popular in the middle ages. But so were chastity belts.

Posted by: Just sayin' at September 03, 2022 09:56 AM (GUpWE)

189 183 Well, somebody liked it.

Pelosi: Biden's Insane Speech "Optimistic and Inspiring"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 03, 2022 09:55 AM (FVME7)

"Two Thumbs way up!"--Idi Amin
"Best start to a dictatorship"--Pol Pot

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2022 09:56 AM (ynpvh)

190 > No one involved read any of the source material.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

Supposedly they asked Peter Jackson to get involved. He said something like "send over the script, and I'll look at it".

They refused, and Jackson wisely noped the hell out of any involvement.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 03, 2022 09:56 AM (bW8dp)

191 184 Nothing wrong with Digital Rectal Exams

Posted by: Pete Bootyjudge at September 03, 2022 09:55 AM (flINI)

He gets them all the time...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2022 09:57 AM (ynpvh)

192 But Galadriel at 14 years old is really 140 years old

Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2022 09:57 AM (k8B25)

193 Anyone who didn't get the shot for medical reasons had to wear a blue mask, and could not eat in the building.
Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 09:55 AM (Zzbjj)


Just...wow.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 03, 2022 09:57 AM (pcw70)

194 Rush - Digital Man

https://youtu.be/rz-MKLcUF4g

Black Sabbath - Digital Bitch

https://youtu.be/Q7qeJctSacQ

Posted by: Robert at September 03, 2022 09:57 AM (1Yy3c)

195 177. Nah, it was just to infantalize the staff. And denigrate. They actually floated the idea of making the people with medical exemptions wear pig masks.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 09:57 AM (Zzbjj)

196 Legendary And Warner Bros. Announce Godzilla And Kong Will Be Teaming Up Against “A Colossal Undiscovered Threat” In Next Monsterverse Film

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Trumpenstein!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 03, 2022 09:57 AM (FVME7)

197
When it cones to that opening image, "hate" is too kind and sterile a word; I prefer "loathe"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at September 03, 2022 09:58 AM (pNxlR)

198 161 143. Much better than a squirrel. I'd be thankful
Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 09:49 AM (Zzbjj)
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On a hot day those dead squirrels still stink.
How long does it take for them to deteriorate.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 09:58 AM (/jZjK)

199

Der Führer Biden hat eine großartige Rede gehalten!

Posted by: Karen CheChe at September 03, 2022 09:58 AM (jE276)

200 186 It wasn't whipped cream but a bagel I'd never tasted before. Delicious.

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Brae, I think they might call that cream cheese.
Posted by: From about that time at September 03, 2022 09:56 AM (4780s)

My wife decided to try "Mexican" food in China once. They put WHIPPED CREAM on the tacos instead of SOUR CREAM. It was an...interesting...combination, she said.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2022 09:58 AM (ynpvh)

201 193. So covid bullshit is built on foundations of flu bullshit.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 09:58 AM (Zzbjj)

202 For the oldsters here.... name the Safeway house brand c1960's




Scotch-buy (red beard, kilt wearing, cheapskate character)

Posted by: 13times at September 03, 2022 09:59 AM (a6aSK)

203 Pick me up some loopholes?

Posted by: BignJames at September 03, 2022 09:54 AM (AwYPR)
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At the last show I found a guy who does .32 magnum reloads. Praise be to God! When he discovered I was a vet like him, he offered to give me a discount if I saved my brass on future orders.

Gun shows are fun - never know what you'll find.

And yes, I'm also big on the jerky/sausage/salsa/artisan cheese aspect.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 09:59 AM (llXky)

204 192 But Galadriel at 14 years old is really 140 years old

Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2022 09:57 AM (k8B25)

But not an adult.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2022 09:59 AM (ynpvh)

205
No one involved read any of the source material.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd


You mentioned the other day that you had written on the subject. Have you links to your stuff (please)?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at September 03, 2022 10:00 AM (pNxlR)

206 195 177. Nah, it was just to infantalize the staff. And denigrate. They actually floated the idea of making the people with medical exemptions wear pig masks.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 09:57 AM (Zzbjj)

I'd rather wear a plague doctor mask. Those are cool.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2022 10:00 AM (ynpvh)

207 But Galadriel at 14 years old is really 140 years old
Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2022 09:57 AM (k8B25)

This excuse only works in anime where the character is just a drawing.

"That eight year old dragon loli? She's really 10,000 years old!"

Posted by: Robert at September 03, 2022 10:00 AM (1Yy3c)

208 Swatting is only criminal when a Democrat is swatted.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 10:00 AM (/jZjK)

209 > But Galadriel at 14 years old is really 140 years old

I think one of the John Ringo/Larry Correia MHI books has something like that.

"(the elf girl) was only 70, but she looked 90" or whatever.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 03, 2022 10:00 AM (bW8dp)

210 206. A bit bulky, iirc

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 10:00 AM (Zzbjj)

211 Ted Cruz did a Dark Brandon meme: "Palpatine looks good"

Posted by: Kindltot at September 03, 2022 10:01 AM (xhaym)

212 > But Galadriel at 14 years old is really 140 years old

I don't think the child actress was 14, even. Maybe 12 at the outside.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 03, 2022 10:01 AM (bW8dp)

213 Last time I got a flu shot I got violently ill. I would have rather had the flu.

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at September 03, 2022 10:01 AM (flINI)

214 205. Is lotr in the public domain, or did the heirs prefer money over heritage?

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 10:01 AM (Zzbjj)

215 You mentioned the other day that you had written on the subject. Have you links to your stuff (please)?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at September 03, 2022 10:00 AM (pNxlR)
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https://bleedingfool.com/author/ahlloyd/

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 10:01 AM (llXky)

216 Digital rectal exam billing code:
Insertion-- $0.00
Extraction-$398.95

Posted by: Eromero at September 03, 2022 10:02 AM (oRWDD)

217 I don't think the child actress was 14, even. Maybe 12 at the outside.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 03, 2022 10:01 AM (bW8dp)

Aged to perfection.

Posted by: Jeffrey Epstein at September 03, 2022 10:02 AM (1Yy3c)

218 213. I've skipped flu shots since retirement. The only shot I've received is tetanus, I work in the yard a lot.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 10:03 AM (Zzbjj)

219 That, and part of the reason every person who sends his precious to a big football school, only to have her come back with purple hair, nose rings, and a lesbian transjenner BLM/Antifa themfriend, is because dad is paying for it through his football dollars.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 09:52 AM (NWBBy)
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This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: The University of Michigan at September 03, 2022 09:56 AM (llXky)

I don't really know what they do in Michigan. I do know Ohio State is basically Lex Wexner U., and Lex Wexner was/is/ Jeff Epstein's boss.

So in addition to funding BLM/CRT and the rest of that rot, Ohio State fans are funding the Pedophile Industrial Complex.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 10:03 AM (NWBBy)

220 > I don't think the child actress was 14, even. Maybe 12 at the outside.


13, apparently. And underdeveloped even for a 13 year old, I'd say. Think Greta Thunberg.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 03, 2022 10:03 AM (bW8dp)

221
I tapped out for good about 20 minutes in, when "Elrond" started flirting with "Galadriel". That was it. I turned it off and won't be back.

She is his mother-in-law, you fucking half-wits. These are elves, not Bidens.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia


LOL, "not Bidens"

It is a safe bet that not only will the Amazon Abomination be declared "not canon", but torches and pitchforks mobs will strive to have it fired from a cannon.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at September 03, 2022 10:04 AM (pNxlR)

222 218 213. I've skipped flu shots since retirement. The only shot I've received is tetanus, I work in the yard a lot.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 10:03 AM (Zzbjj)

that's only needed, what? Once every 10 years?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2022 10:04 AM (ynpvh)

223 sounds like some person with an airplane bought some vegies at Walmart

Posted by: REDACTED at September 03, 2022 10:04 AM (us2H3)

224 Never knew sour cream and beef went together so well until I ate at a Mexican restaurant.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 10:04 AM (/jZjK)

225 I am going to buck the crowd on the first two episodes of The Rings of Prime. It wasn't horrible for a fantasy show. But it wasn't Tolkien's story. If you can get past that, I have to say that I have seen much worse.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 03, 2022 10:04 AM (yQpMk)

226 To put it another way, all sports rely on money, and there was no "golden age" when college sports were clean and pure. Before the invention of the athletic scholarship, boosters just paid players directly and the schools shrugged and said they had no authority over alumni off campus.
+++++
Of course there has been cheating in college sports forever. But now college football is more and more like the NFL. NIL allows players to be paid. And the transfer portal allows players to change teams pretty much at will.
And the B1G has just signed a 7.5 billion dollar deal for 7 years for television rights.
More money = even more corruption.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at September 03, 2022 10:04 AM (dr4Q1)

227 Nothing wrong with Digital Rectal Exams
Posted by: Pete Bootyjudge at September 03, 2022 09:55 AM (flINI)


You missed the opportunity to say, "You can use your fist if you like"

I despise everyone in the administration

Posted by: Kindltot at September 03, 2022 10:04 AM (xhaym)

228 Is lotr in the public domain, or did the heirs prefer money over heritage?

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 10:01 AM (Zzbjj)
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Tolkien himself thought it was impossible to film, so sold the movie rights for a few thousand dollars to Saul Zaentz.

Ralph Bakshi did an interesting (but flawed) film version that got halfway there, and Peter Jackson used that is the basic for his own film (there's a youtube showing the shot-for-shot duplication).

When the new movies succeeded, Tolkien's estate decided they may as well sell the rest of the rights and supposedly safeguards were put in place. Obviously these were ignored.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 10:04 AM (llXky)

229 > Is lotr in the public domain, or did the heirs prefer money over heritage?

The latter. It's still in copyright, and the current heirs are pretty far removed from Professor T.

Christopher, the only one of his kids who really cared about his legacy, passed on a while back.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 03, 2022 10:05 AM (bW8dp)

230 *Thinks of Greta Thunberg*

*Visions of horrific violence dances through his head*

Posted by: Robert at September 03, 2022 10:05 AM (1Yy3c)

231 > So covid bullshit is built on foundations of flu bullshit.
__________

Aren't flu shots basically strains of all the known flu's up to that date? Or the strains the "experts" think will be prevalent that season? Whatever the case, will SARS-CoV-19 be part of the "generic flu" shot moving forward?

Seems relevant.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 03, 2022 10:05 AM (BFigT)

232 Is lotr in the public domain, or did the heirs prefer money over heritage?
Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 10:01 AM (Zzbjj)

The latter. They got paid. There were weak efforts to have "Tolkien scholars" involved, to tell the producers of this garbage where they were going wrong, but Amazon fired the scholars early on, and the Tolkien heirs continued to count their money.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 10:05 AM (NWBBy)

233 231 > So covid bullshit is built on foundations of flu bullshit.
__________

Aren't flu shots basically strains of all the known flu's up to that date? Or the strains the "experts" think will be prevalent that season? Whatever the case, will SARS-CoV-19 be part of the "generic flu" shot moving forward?

Seems relevant.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 03, 2022 10:05 AM (BFigT)

I thought it was best guess 9mo to a year in advance.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2022 10:06 AM (ynpvh)

234 Cardinals’ Antonio Hamilton Burns Legs & Feet In "Freak" Cooking Accident, Out At Least 4 Games

Sources told NFL Network, 98.7 FM Phoenix and Pro Football Network that the incident occurred when Hamilton spilled hot oil on himself while he was cooking at home.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 03, 2022 10:06 AM (FVME7)

235 232 Is lotr in the public domain, or did the heirs prefer money over heritage?
Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 10:01 AM (Zzbjj)

The latter. They got paid. There were weak efforts to have "Tolkien scholars" involved, to tell the producers of this garbage where they were going wrong, but Amazon fired the scholars early on, and the Tolkien heirs continued to count their money.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 10:05 AM (NWBBy)

Don't remember any LGBTQWTF characters in my readings...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2022 10:07 AM (ynpvh)

236 Of course there has been cheating in college sports forever. But now college football is more and more like the NFL. NIL allows players to be paid. And the transfer portal allows players to change teams pretty much at will.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at September 03, 2022 10:04 AM (dr4Q1)
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For years players didn't even need to be students. There are "championship" teams with players whose names are uncertain. You think the portal is bad? Players used to swap teams *during the season*.

What is different is that it is more transparent and democratized. The collectives mean that players with no hope of NFL play time still make some money. Given that football pays for the entire athletic department (thus all wimmen's sports), that's fair.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 10:07 AM (llXky)

237 Cream cheese, yes.
Used to eat cream cheese and Triscuits.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 10:08 AM (/jZjK)

238 Ohio State versus Notre Dame. Is that still college football? What ev... I'm watching it!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 03, 2022 10:08 AM (GzV24)

239 219. I made it through my years at MSU without attending a single football game. The one I did attend was prior to arriving on campus, it was a weird experience. All the women wore big white mum corsages. And after the game proceeded to area steakhouses to party further. It was not for me.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 10:08 AM (Zzbjj)

240 Never had a flu shot so knew a Covid shot even when all the rage wasn't in my future.
Someone has to be a base subject

Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2022 10:09 AM (k8B25)

241 > Peter Jackson used that is the basic for his own film (there's a youtube showing the shot-for-shot duplication).


While there are definitely problems with the Jackson films, most of the characters and events have at least SOME resemblance to the source material.

This travesty abandons any connection with the source.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 03, 2022 10:09 AM (bW8dp)

242 Brittney Griner, what entrance exam did they give her at Baylor?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 10:10 AM (/jZjK)

243 Aren't flu shots basically strains of all the known flu's up to that date? Or the strains the "experts" think will be prevalent that season? Whatever the case, will SARS-CoV-19 be part of the "generic flu" shot moving forward?
Seems relevant.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 03, 2022 10:05 AM (BFigT)


There is a really interesting argument that at least some of the strains of flu are bimodal, if they encounter one antibody they will express a different coat to get around the antibody, to avoid prior resistance

I gave up on flu shots because every year they trumpeted they had administered more shots and claimed success, and then explained they had got the strain wrong so everyone got sick anyways, fortunately it was a mild flu year.

I wish I could succeed like that.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 03, 2022 10:11 AM (xhaym)

244 The latter. It's still in copyright, and the current heirs are pretty far removed from Professor T.

Christopher, the only one of his kids who really cared about his legacy, passed on a while back.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 03, 2022 10:05 AM (bW8dp)
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Fans have a lot more invested than the family does, which is fine.

In the highly unlikely event my stuff catches on after I die, I'm fine with my kids selling it off for what they can get. The work stands on its own. If someone wants to make a gay Man of Destiny series, fine.

I'll savor my heirs and descendants not living in poverty.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 10:11 AM (llXky)

245 And after the game proceeded to area steakhouses to party further. It was not for me.
Posted by: CN
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Fuddy Duddy?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 10:11 AM (/jZjK)

246 235. I dread the day Gatsby goes public. The Lanahan clan has been pretty good at nixing prequels, sequels, and other bullshit, but I'm sure the parasitic author class has idiocy waiting in the wings.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 10:11 AM (Zzbjj)

247 54 At DM, ex porn star bemoans her degenerate baby daddy:

"I swear to God I thought NBA players were nice guys."

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at September 03, 2022 09:14 AM (24fqN)

I swear to God I thought Turkeys could fly

Posted by: Arthur Carlson at September 03, 2022 10:11 AM (ynpvh)

248 https://inchhighguy.wordpress.com
/2022/09/03/women-warriors-184/

What a lovely group this week

Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2022 10:11 AM (k8B25)

249 Brittney Griner, what entrance exam did they give her at Baylor?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 10:10 AM (/jZjK)

360 slam dunk

Posted by: BignJames at September 03, 2022 10:12 AM (AwYPR)

250 You mentioned the other day that you had written on the subject. Have you links to your stuff (please)?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at September 03, 2022 10:00 AM (pNxlR)

Forgive me for laughing, but does anyone have more links to his stuff than A. H. Lloyd?

*not a criticism, but an observation

Posted by: April--dash my lace wigs! at September 03, 2022 10:12 AM (OX9vb)

251 36 -- The hummingbirds in my yard are aggressive as all get out. There can be only one! seems to be their motto. The one will patrol the front yard, driving any other hummingbird away. Since I live east of the Rockies, all I get are the Ruby Throats.

I didn't put a feeder out this year, figuring the little monsters could graze on the butterfly bushes and lantana.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- I wasn't particularly fond of the '70s the first time around at September 03, 2022 10:13 AM (9SjWf)

252 245. Just not into the drama or the drinking. In 1975 the legal age was 18. The stadium smelled like a brewery and by the end a brewery with puke.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 10:14 AM (Zzbjj)

253 I made it through my years at MSU without attending a single football game. The one I did attend was prior to arriving on campus, it was a weird experience. All the women wore big white mum corsages. And after the game proceeded to area steakhouses to party further. It was not for me.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 10:08 AM (Zzbjj)
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I'm probably going to do the alumni game later this month. It was something that sticks with you. Hard to explain all the work you put into it and yet I still remember that first game, coming out of the tunnel to 75,000 screaming fans to trying desperately not to say "OH SHIT" and freeze in place.

Got to march at Notre Dame, Indiana, and of course Michigan. We were on a shoestring budget back then. Kids today have it too good.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 10:14 AM (llXky)

254 I wish I could succeed like that.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 03, 2022 10:11 AM (xhaym)


Heh, no kidding!

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 03, 2022 10:14 AM (pcw70)

255 I wish I could succeed like that.
Posted by: Kindltot at
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The guys back at the lab want to nail it.
But it appears to be a front office racket.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 10:15 AM (/jZjK)

256 25 Gray Box Day?

But better than Gay Box Day!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana! ~ at September 03, 2022 09:01 AM (hOUT3
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Which is better than Gay Barrel Day.

Posted by: Ciampino - very grey skies here and rain at September 03, 2022 10:16 AM (qfLjt)

257 Forgive me for laughing, but does anyone have more links to his stuff than A. H. Lloyd?

*not a criticism, but an observation

Posted by: April--dash my lace wigs! at September 03, 2022 10:12 AM (OX9vb)
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If I don't promote my work, how will anyone find it?

At first it was awkward, but now I just embrace my inner jackass. In my Guard unit, I sign retirement cards with "Best of luck, buy my books!"

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 10:17 AM (llXky)

258 253. If you love it, Enjoy it . Case hall was do close to the stadium you were overwhelmed anyway. I usually walked over to a speciality library on the far side of the campus to escape.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 10:17 AM (Zzbjj)

259 I'm off to do morning stuff. Have fun. Let those chainsaws run for a bit...they need their exercise.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2022 10:17 AM (ynpvh)

260 https://inchhighguy.wordpress.com
/2022/09/03/women-warriors-184/

What a lovely group this week
Posted by: Skip

I can hardly stand the thought of these lovelies in combat being killed and wounded physically and psychologically. I know, I know, that patriarchal hate speech.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 03, 2022 10:17 AM (FVME7)

261 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2022 09:40 AM (ynpvh)
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Prayers for your wife.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 10:18 AM (/jZjK)

262 If I don't promote my work, how will anyone find it?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 10:17 AM (llXky)

I know! It was funny to me that he never noticed.

Posted by: April--dash my lace wigs! at September 03, 2022 10:19 AM (OX9vb)

263 Doctors no longer want to actually touch you. I had one GP tell me they don't do physical exams anymore. They sit in front of the computer screen, look at test results and then prescribe pharmaceutical solutions for every possible issue they spot. This doctor prescribed two different long term meds and three different injections she thought I needed.
I fired her.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 03, 2022 10:19 AM (Y+l9t)

264 I tapped out for good about 20 minutes in, when "Elrond" started flirting with "Galadriel". That was it. I turned it off and won't be back.
***

I walked away from Jackson's LOTR in the first movie when they turned the Merry and Pippin into capering retards.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 03, 2022 10:20 AM (H8QX8)

265 > I dread the day Gatsby goes public.

Happened January 1 of this year.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 03, 2022 10:20 AM (bW8dp)

266 Thanks again for the prayer list.

And, again, thanks to you all for the prayers.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at September 03, 2022 10:21 AM (5pTK/)

267 Wow! Overslept.

But wait, I'm retired so. . . .

Mmmmmm, coffee.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 03, 2022 10:21 AM (LsEU/)

268 265. Oh, no

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 10:22 AM (Zzbjj)

269 43
If we don't run with them, how are we supposed to catch them? If our forefathers took that attitude, we never would have corralled any of them, and this world would be a much treer place.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 09:08 AM (NWBBy)
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Don't you know that trees are racyss?

Posted by: Ciampino - also state parks at September 03, 2022 10:22 AM (qfLjt)

270 263.well done .

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 10:22 AM (Zzbjj)

271
I walked away from Jackson's LOTR in the first movie when they turned the Merry and Pippin into capering retards.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 03, 2022 10:20 AM (H8QX
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That was annoying, but I held on through in part because my wife is a Super Fan and so she got me to keep going. I didn't like the second film and hated the third.

I got dragooned into going to Star Wars VII but drew the line. Refused to see VIII and even she checked out in IX. My wife is somewhat of a tomboy as are the girls - they like anime, shooter games, Star Wars, superheroes, etc.

I just write books and read Evelyn Waugh.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 10:23 AM (llXky)

272 Prayers for all on the prayer list and for all that love them.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 03, 2022 10:24 AM (LsEU/)

273 I dread the day Gatsby goes public.

Happened January 1 of this year.


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 03, 2022 10:20 AM (bW8dp)
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Austen's been out there for a while and people have done stupid things with her and good things with her.

The same will apply to other works.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 10:24 AM (llXky)

274 263 Doctors no longer want to actually touch you.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
=======================

My Primary, the whole clinic, doesn't use computers they have old fashioned files. And once a year he plays petrologist.

And if your primary is doing his job he tests for blood in the fecal matter.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 10:25 AM (/jZjK)

275 I am Grey.
I stand between the Candle and the Star.

We are Grey.
We stand between the Darkness and the Light.

Posted by: Satai Dalen at September 03, 2022 10:25 AM (Hf5HC)

276 Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 03, 2022 10:19 AM (Y+l9t)

Good for you! And as to goatexchange's comment, is there another way to diagnose prostate issues other than doing a physical exam? Blood test or something?

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 03, 2022 10:25 AM (pcw70)

277 If we don't run with them, how are we supposed to catch them? If our forefathers took that attitude, we never would have corralled any of them, and this world would be a much treer place.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 09:08 AM (NWBBy)
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Don't you know that trees are racyss?
Posted by: Ciampino - also state parks at September 03, 2022 10:22 AM (qfLjt)

Probably. Among the dumber contradictions on the left, is when the diversity crowd decided national parks are rayciss. Meanwhile, the tree huggers want everyone in the concrete jungles to buy electric cars during rolling blackout days.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 10:25 AM (NWBBy)

278 57 Anyone caught with a cinnamon bagel spends a night in the box.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 03, 2022 09:15 AM (EZebt)
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YES!
or the barrel.

Posted by: Ciampino - whose turn in the barrel? at September 03, 2022 10:26 AM (qfLjt)

279 At first it was awkward, but now I just embrace my inner jackass. In my Guard unit, I sign retirement cards with "Best of luck, buy my books!"
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

Good on ya! If you want to hit, you have to swing.

Amirite?

Posted by: Tonypete at September 03, 2022 10:26 AM (LsEU/)

280 262 If I don't promote my work, how will anyone find it?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Is this where the price bargaining starts?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 10:27 AM (/jZjK)

281 I'm pretty much independent to the Rings of Power and don't expect to be watching it.
I like LoTR a lot but I don't hold Tolkien's writing to be sacred.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 03, 2022 10:27 AM (eGTCV)

282 Indifferent not independent

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 03, 2022 10:27 AM (eGTCV)

283 Blood test or something?

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 03, 2022 10:25 AM (pcw70)

Yep...PSA...prostate specific antigen

Posted by: BignJames at September 03, 2022 10:27 AM (AwYPR)

284 When it cones to that opening image, "hate" is too kind and sterile a word; I prefer "loathe"

It is ALWAYS time for the Two-Minute Hate!

Posted by: Live From Nuremberg, It's Joe Biden! at September 03, 2022 10:29 AM (Jg92y)

285 am going to buck the crowd on the first two episodes of The Rings of Prime. It wasn't horrible for a fantasy show. But it wasn't Tolkien's story. If you can get past that, I have to say that I have seen much worse.
++++
I agree. It was visually quite beautiful and there is so little real fantasy anymore, episodes.
On the other hand, I watched the third installment of the Jurassic Park movies last night and it was....awful.
Best acting was done by the dinosaurs.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 03, 2022 10:29 AM (Y+l9t)

286 In the inevitable excuse department, Europeans are blaming their governments going along with the US in supporting sanctions against the Russians because of the Ukrainian invasion causing Russia to completely cut off their gas supply.

Yes folks ,it's "Were going to freeze to death and it's all the Yanks fault!"


Posted by: pawn at September 03, 2022 10:30 AM (wsHtO)

287 there is so little real fantasy anymore

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hmmm....hmmm

Posted by: BignJames at September 03, 2022 10:31 AM (AwYPR)

288 Minor points...as IF anything pertaining to the exactness of Drill is "minor" to the marine corps.
1)There is no approved stance where the hands are clasped in FRONT of an unarmed Marine while in any formation. Who ordered them to "pose" that way?.
2) The Official Marine Corps Drill Manual..."17. The use of gold fringe on the U.S. Flag is expressly forbidden for Marine Corps organizations."

Posted by: birddog at September 03, 2022 10:32 AM (uAI4S)

289 Well, thanks to CN, I registered for the alumni reunion.

There are three stages of alumni bandos.

Stage 1 are the recent grads who can still do the moves, and make the "kids" look bad.

Stage 2 are the guys who can't quite do it right, but give it a try for fun.

Stage 3 are the guys who don't give a crap and just phone it in. This is the stage I am at.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 10:32 AM (llXky)

290 Hiya MLiiGRAM !
(I thought you'd been kidnapped !)

Posted by: JT at September 03, 2022 10:33 AM (T4tVD)

291 I don't hold Tolkien's writing to be sacred.
Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 03, 2022 10:27 AM (eGTCV)

*Declares Jihad*

Posted by: Robert at September 03, 2022 10:33 AM (1Yy3c)

292 289. Don't blame me.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 10:33 AM (Zzbjj)

293 Just had my bagel toasted, a treat as said don't get during the week.

Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2022 10:34 AM (k8B25)

294 Yes folks ,it's "Were going to freeze to death and it's all the Yanks fault!"


Posted by: pawn at September 03, 2022 10:30 AM (wsHtO)

They have a small point though their cause and effect is slightly skewed. Biden is asking for billions more for Ukraine to keep the war going.

Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2022 10:34 AM (PmzDg)

295 253. If you love it, Enjoy it . Case hall was do close to the stadium you were overwhelmed anyway. I usually walked over to a speciality library on the far side of the campus to escape.
Posted by: CN

Ya really RAN, dint ya ?

Posted by: JT at September 03, 2022 10:35 AM (T4tVD)

296 >>Hiya MLiiGRAM !
(I thought you'd been kidnapped !)
Posted by: JT at September 03, 2022 10:33 AM (T4tVD)

Hey, JT!

No, just super busy. Burning candle at both ends, so to speak. Working all weekend, too

Posted by: My Life is Insanity at September 03, 2022 10:35 AM (fInJv)

297 ]i\ In the inevitable excuse department, Europeans are blaming their governments going along with the US in supporting sanctions against the Russians because of the Ukrainian invasion causing Russia to completely cut off their gas supply.

Yes folks ,it's "Were going to freeze to death and it's all the Yanks fault!"

In the inevitable excuse department, Europeans are blaming their governments going along with the US in supporting sanctions against the Russians because of the Ukrainian invasion causing Russia to completely cut off their gas supply.

Yes folks ,it's "Were going to freeze to death and it's all the Yanks fault!"


You can't be surprised. This is what teenagers do. Did they blame Trump?

Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2022 10:36 AM (/NCI4)

298 On to my second cup of coffee.
What to have with it?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 03, 2022 10:36 AM (Y+l9t)

299 Don't blame me.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 10:33 AM (Zzbjj)
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I'm thanking you! I'd been putting it off and needed to make a decision.

I last marched in 2019 (right after my heart issue) and it was great. I came home worn out but happy. So nice to see old friends, sing the old songs, play as a band again.

And be totally laid back about it. When you're young, it's all "MOVE! RUN! NO WALKING!" and now we just sort of amble into position and give it a half-assed try. Very chill.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 10:37 AM (llXky)

300 Echo in here?

Posted by: BignJames at September 03, 2022 10:37 AM (AwYPR)

301 They have a small point though their cause and effect is slightly skewed. Biden is asking for billions more for Ukraine to keep the war going.

No they don't. They made themselves dependent on Russian gas, despite being warned that it was folly. They chose to sneer instead. Let them shiver.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2022 10:38 AM (/NCI4)

302 I'm pretty much independent to the Rings of Power and don't expect to be watching it.
I like LoTR a lot but I don't hold Tolkien's writing to be sacred.
Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 03, 2022 10:27 AM (eGTCV)

I'm sure the cinematography is going to be great but the previews looks like girl power times ten.

Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2022 10:38 AM (PmzDg)

303 Minor points...as IF anything pertaining to the exactness of Drill is "minor" to the marine corps.
1)There is no approved stance where the hands are clasped in FRONT of an unarmed Marine while in any formation. Who ordered them to "pose" that way?.
2) The Official Marine Corps Drill Manual..."17. The use of gold fringe on the U.S. Flag is expressly forbidden for Marine Corps organizations."

Posted by: birddog at September 03, 2022 10:32 AM (uAI4S)
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Breaking the rules is part of the kink.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 10:38 AM (llXky)

304 299. Well have a great time, catch up with everyone.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 10:39 AM (Zzbjj)

305 On to my second cup of coffee.
What to have with it?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)

A Wichita Lineman ?

Posted by: JT at September 03, 2022 10:40 AM (T4tVD)

306 No they don't. They made themselves dependent on Russian gas, despite being warned that it was folly. They chose to sneer instead. Let them shiver.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2022 10:38 AM (/NCI4)
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"They bought their ticket, they knew what they were getting into1 I say, let 'em crash."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 10:40 AM (llXky)

307 I don't think they have the nerve to blame Trump. Because Trump will just run the tape of them actually laughing at him when he warned them that this could/would happen.

Posted by: pawn at September 03, 2022 10:40 AM (wsHtO)

308 'Morning JT.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 03, 2022 10:42 AM (Y+l9t)

309 Hiya Sharon !

Posted by: JT at September 03, 2022 10:43 AM (T4tVD)

310 No they don't. They made themselves dependent on Russian gas, despite being warned that it was folly. They chose to sneer instead. Let them shiver.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2022 10:38 AM (/NCI4)

I think they do. We disagree. Their government sneered. The reason it came to fruition is the Ukrainian war which we prevented an agreement to end it and are financing its continuation.

Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2022 10:43 AM (PmzDg)

311 291 I don't hold Tolkien's writing to be sacred.
Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 03, 2022 10:27 AM (eGTCV)

I hold everyone's writing to be sacred. If you wish to make something else of it, that can worked out in a mutually satisfying commercial manner. But it doesn't change what is and is not. I saw the films of Tolkien to be something other than Tolkien, and I just discarded them as meaningless to me. I'd like to think Tolkien would have done the same, if he had been open to the commercial arrangement.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 03, 2022 10:43 AM (H8QX8)

312 306, 307. They seem to want the crash. Otherwise why is dragging Zdogg to the negotiating table off limits.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 10:43 AM (Zzbjj)

313 small nearby auction has a 1930 "REPEAL the 18TH AMENDMENT' license plate

going to try to buy

very cool

Posted by: REDACTED at September 03, 2022 10:44 AM (us2H3)

314 Not to nitpick.... but... in the otherwise-fabulous "Women Warriors 184", the "Swimmer with rebreather" is wearing her Drager Lar V backwards. It is worn on the front, not on the back.

Posted by: goatexchange at September 03, 2022 10:44 AM (APPN8)

315 It's been 24 hours since Herr Biden gave his speech.
This man is now an utter disgrace and should be court martialed.

https://tinyurl.com/yt2t6d86

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 03, 2022 10:45 AM (nSdVr)

316 I think they do. We disagree. Their government sneered. The reason it came to fruition is the Ukrainian war which we prevented an agreement to end it and are financing its continuation.

But if they hadn't chosen to make themselves dependent on Russian gas, it wouldn't matter what position they took vis a vis Ukraine. You're saying it's our fault because they made their foreign policy hostage to Russia?

Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2022 10:45 AM (/NCI4)

317 I hold everyone's writing to be sacred. If you wish to make something else of it, that can worked out in a mutually satisfying commercial manner. But it doesn't change what is and is not. I saw the films of Tolkien to be something other than Tolkien, and I just discarded them as meaningless to me. I'd like to think Tolkien would have done the same, if he had been open to the commercial arrangement.
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 03, 2022 10:43 AM (H8QX

If you want to see a writer take tolkien's world and obviously have massive respect for it, but tell his own stories, pick up the Dennis L McKiernnan books. They are fun.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 03, 2022 10:45 AM (dNqv+)

318 I agree. It was visually quite beautiful and there is so little real fantasy anymore, episodes.
On the other hand, I watched the third installment of the Jurassic Park movies last night and it was....awful.
Best acting was done by the dinosaurs.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 03, 2022 10:29 AM (Y+l9t)

I've turned into one of those grumps (not our Grump) who doesn't much care for CGI computer shite in movies. The more visually stunning the graphics, the more I think about actors in warehouses, in front of green screens, miming their action of poking monsters with spears, shooting non-existent flaming arrows, and flying around with a string tied to their arses.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 10:45 AM (NWBBy)

319 Well sir, the event producer says that the Marines look too threatening standing there like that, can you have them try to look more casual, like they just hanging out?

OK, but I thought you said you wanted them because the whole idea of the setting was to look scary and threatening. There's nothing I know of more scary an a couple of Marines staring at you.

Posted by: pawn at September 03, 2022 10:46 AM (wsHtO)

320 318. I think anyone attempting to resurrect dinosaurs should be executed.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 10:47 AM (Zzbjj)

321 127 It is thought that Pumpkin Spice is the whitest flavor, but it is not. It is popular in Central America and Mexico, too.

No, the whitest flavor is Sauerkraut.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 03, 2022 09:40 AM (xhaym)

This. Yes.

Posted by: StewBurner at September 03, 2022 10:47 AM (Guh8+)

322 I've turned into one of those grumps (not our Grump) who doesn't much care for CGI computer shite in movies. The more visually stunning the graphics, the more I think about actors in warehouses, in front of green screens, miming their action of poking monsters with spears, shooting non-existent flaming arrows, and flying around with a string tied to their arses.

I get that, but it is well to remember how lame the old stuff was. Watch the opening credits for Terminator, with stop motion tanks running over skulls. It's hard to take the movie seriously after that.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2022 10:47 AM (/NCI4)

323 312
This is an excellent point. Why should Ukraine quit when we are financing their entire government ?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 03, 2022 10:48 AM (Y+l9t)

324 I went to the girl-power Tolkien item and hit the "don't show me this" button. Mercifully the huge ad for it at the top of the page stopped.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 03, 2022 10:48 AM (ybIRR)

325 The only way Biden could have made this more on the nose is to have regiments of soldiers lined up in front of him. He hit EVERY other telltale.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 03, 2022 10:49 AM (dNqv+)

326 But if they hadn't chosen to make themselves dependent on Russian gas, it wouldn't matter what position they took vis a vis Ukraine. You're saying it's our fault because they made their foreign policy hostage to Russia?
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2022 10:45 AM (/NCI4)

I'm saying part of the reason is our actions to cause that dependence to bite them in the ass. It's like saying to them if you don't wear that life preserver you're going to drown if you fall in the water and then when they fall in the water you keep pushing their head down .

Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2022 10:49 AM (PmzDg)

327 I'm saying part of the reason is our actions to cause that dependence to bite them in the ass. It's like saying to them if you don't wear that life preserver you're going to drown if you fall in the water and then when they fall in the water you keep pushing their head down .

I don't understand.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2022 10:50 AM (/NCI4)

328 311. I agree, if you want to write about an imaginary world, make your own.

And I still say a lot of utopian/ dystopia fantasy turns sinister. People here are fond of saying 1984, etc were warnings, not instruction manuals. Not for people with too much money, power, and sociopathy.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 10:51 AM (Zzbjj)

329 No they don't. They made themselves dependent on Russian gas, despite being warned that it was folly. They chose to sneer instead. Let them shiver.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2022 10:38 AM (/NCI4)

I think they do. We disagree. Their government sneered. The reason it came to fruition is the Ukrainian war which we prevented an agreement to end it and are financing its continuation.
Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2022 10:43 AM (PmzDg)

I'd love to sit back and watch it all crumble, but nukular war is on the table as an option here.

There are no good guys in any of this. None. Everyone is to blame. And everyone is going to pay for it, good and hard. Except the world's oligarchs, most of whom, even the Rooskies, live in Californica, and won't be affected by rolling blackouts across the planet in the short term, and nukular fallout in the long.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 10:51 AM (NWBBy)

330 Minor points...as IF anything pertaining to the exactness of Drill is "minor" to the marine corps.
1)There is no approved stance where the hands are clasped in FRONT of an unarmed Marine while in any formation. Who ordered them to "pose" that way?.
Posted by: birddog at September 03, 2022 10:32 AM (uAI4S)

Concur. Your DI or Platoon Sgt would be all over your ass if you pulled that crap in boot camp or the fleet.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 03, 2022 10:52 AM (R/m4+)

331 Emmie prayer request report:

Thank you so much for your prayers! We are now under contract. We should know for sure if the deal will hold up by Sept. 12. The buyer is an investor who made an offer sight-unseen and can back out if they don't like anything in the inspection report. However, they buy places to fix and flip, so maybe various inspection issues are no big deal to them. The biggest problem with the house has already been disclosed, along with a repair estimate that will be honored for the next owner.

Thanks again!

Posted by: Emmie at September 03, 2022 10:53 AM (6RgRK)

332 And I still say a lot of utopian/ dystopia fantasy turns sinister. People here are fond of saying 1984, etc were warnings, not instruction manuals. Not for people with too much money, power, and sociopathy.
Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 10:51 AM (Zzbjj)

As I have gotten older, I have noticed how much a series of books let you see 'under the hood' of the author's mind. It is actually really disturbing if you know anything about the author's private life and changes in their circumstances or decisions and then watch how the books change. In some ways and in some cases, it is REALLY off putting.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 03, 2022 10:54 AM (dNqv+)

333 The way I understand it a real dinosaur is impossible as no dn is around in any way, shape or form. But many ice age animals are possible.

Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2022 10:54 AM (k8B25)

334 Has anybody commented on the fact that the Ukraine is like the new S. Vietnam? Another corrupt state propped up by the US in a proxy war against "the Commies".

Posted by: pawn at September 03, 2022 10:54 AM (wsHtO)

335 Oh Emmie! Congratulations!! There is no better feeling. I will keep my fingers crossed that everything is smooth as glass from here on in. When is the closing?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 03, 2022 10:55 AM (Y+l9t)

336 There are no good guys in any of this. None. Everyone is to blame.

Again, I disagree, but I've avoided getting into a discussion of the war, because no opinions will be changed, including my own. That's why I'm limiting my comments to the stupidity of farming out your foreign policy to your biggest foe. It's just mindbogglingly stupid, but that's what the Euros did, because teenagers like to tweak the responsible adults who pay for everything.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2022 10:56 AM (/NCI4)

337 I get that, but it is well to remember how lame the old stuff was. Watch the opening credits for Terminator, with stop motion tanks running over skulls. It's hard to take the movie seriously after that.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2022 10:47 AM (/NCI4)

Nah, I appreciate the art of special effects, with cameras filming whatever physical creations were used. Some are better than others, obviously, but to me it's like watching modern athletes, taking PED, using modern equipment, and playing in sterile conditions, and comparing that to old film of guys playing in muddy conditions, with chewing tobacco on the ball, flimsy leather helmets, etc... I'll take the old stuff every day, even if the flashy modern athlete, with his braided hair and gold teeth could run circles around those guys.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 10:57 AM (NWBBy)

338 Concur. Your DI or Platoon Sgt would be all over your ass if you pulled that crap in boot camp or the fleet.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 03, 2022 10:52 AM (R/m4+)

Part of all of this that is so creepy is that you know there was a director (or directors) who were looking at everything and setting the 'shots' up. THIS was all planned. Someone looked at each aspect of this and thought- this is what we want to do, let's change that, hey let's do this!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 03, 2022 10:57 AM (dNqv+)

339 Stuff I didn't know about the race to the moon.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yee9WJ25TnU

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 03, 2022 10:57 AM (FVME7)

340 323. One might assume that throwing its men into the buzz saw would be a deterrent. But, it's a feature, not a bug.

I am torn about the reasoning. Who is insisting this continue and why? Does the Zelensky faction of oligarchs want this and have the goods on our pols? Are American oligarchs wanting the windfall that a Ukraine in the EU will bring? But, I am haunted by the video of McCain and Lindsey meeting with a Uke militia, promising them that 2017 would bring assaults on Russia.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 10:57 AM (Zzbjj)

341 NASA rocket launch of Artemis planned today may be another scrub.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWAA5P-iFJs

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 03, 2022 10:58 AM (nSdVr)

342 I get that, but it is well to remember how lame the old stuff was. Watch the opening credits for Terminator, with stop motion tanks running over skulls. It's hard to take the movie seriously after that.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2022 10:47 AM (/NCI4)

Nah, I appreciate the art of special effects, with cameras filming whatever physical creations were used.


That's taste, and there's no arguing with it. You like what you like.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2022 10:58 AM (/NCI4)

343 Archimedes, isn't that what we've done by letting our energy independence go, reduced to begging the Saudis and bowing down to Iran.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 03, 2022 10:58 AM (Y+l9t)

344 Thank you AoS, and special thanks the thoughtful CoB, who picked off my prayer request through comments, and not a direct email solicitation.
It worked!
Fair Lady Robin has run 2 courses of antibiotics, and is getting stronger everyday. She worked a balance of 1/2/full days last week, and will rest and get stronger this weekend.
I was shocked at how fast the infection brought her down, as she's one of the healthiest people I know. On a follow up appt w/our Doc, he said most people will end up in hospital w/C.Diff. And, the best places to get it are schools and...hospitals.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 03, 2022 10:58 AM (7Fj9P)

345 ah, I appreciate the art of special effects, with cameras filming whatever physical creations were used. Some are better than others, obviously, but to me it's like watching modern athletes, taking PED, using modern equipment, and playing in sterile conditions, and comparing that to old film of guys playing in muddy conditions, with chewing tobacco on the ball, flimsy leather helmets, etc... I'll take the old stuff every day, even if the flashy modern athlete, with his braided hair and gold teeth could run circles around those guys.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 10:57 AM (NWBBy)
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I've found that special effects were treated with greater care because they were so expensive.

So, there's no upper limit to what you can show, so there's less dramatic impact.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 10:59 AM (llXky)

346 Again, I disagree, but I've avoided getting into a discussion of the war, because no opinions will be changed, including my own. That's why I'm limiting my comments to the stupidity of farming out your foreign policy to your biggest foe. It's just mindbogglingly stupid, but that's what the Euros did, because teenagers like to tweak the responsible adults who pay for everything.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2022 10:56 AM (/NCI4)

So then just out of curiosity, who are the good guys?

Us? The Ukes? Who? I don't see any.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 10:59 AM (NWBBy)

347 Archimedes, isn't that what we've done by letting our energy independence go, reduced to begging the Saudis and bowing down to Iran.

Absolutely. If you're waiting for me to defend Biden's policies, you'd better get a cup of coffee...a big one.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2022 10:59 AM (/NCI4)

348 332. For some authors, as there are bastards in every walk of life, every group thete ever was.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 11:00 AM (Zzbjj)

349 My sister went to ER for severe reaction to fire ants (this is a new thing for her), then her doc says she has developed asthma. Almost immediately my thoughts go to "that fucking vaccine -- four fucking times for her and her ultra-prog husband -- has damaged her immune system to the point of life threatening."

Fauci, Birx, Collins and all those other grifters at NIH and FDA need humiliation and scorn heaped on their heads, then exile.

Posted by: sinmi at September 03, 2022 11:00 AM (3pr7Q)

350 So then just out of curiosity, who are the good guys?

Us? The Ukes? Who? I don't see any.

Posted by: BurtTC


I know where this discussion leads, and I'm trying to avoid the morass.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2022 11:01 AM (/NCI4)

351 341 NASA rocket launch of Artemis planned today may be another scrub.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWAA5P-iFJs
Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 03, 2022 10:58 AM (nSdVr)
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Yep. Damn quick disconnect.

Posted by: WisRich at September 03, 2022 11:01 AM (qKfc+)

352 Archimedes, no, I'm agreeing with what you said, just adding that we are just as bad and like the Europeans are paying the price. Literally paying the price.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 03, 2022 11:01 AM (Y+l9t)

353 Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 03, 2022 10:58 AM (Y+l9t)

Self awareness is a crucial trait to have. Everyone fails at that at times. Some more than others. The Left all the time.

Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2022 11:01 AM (PmzDg)

354 346. The good guys are the ones on all sides being trampled. Zelensky promised to be a good guy, but wasn't .

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 11:02 AM (Zzbjj)

355 Archimedes, no, I'm agreeing with what you said, just adding that we are just as bad and like the Europeans are paying the price. Literally paying the price.

Agree. Let's fight anyway. It's the AOSHQ way.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2022 11:02 AM (/NCI4)

356 That's taste, and there's no arguing with it. You like what you like.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2022 10:58 AM (/NCI4)

Of course it is. I'm just referring to the "hard to take it seriously" part of your statement. To me that's like saying it's hard to take the Mona Lisa seriously, because you can see the paint, when an Instagram model, taking selfies of her ass, are somehow better art.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 11:02 AM (NWBBy)

357 348 332. For some authors, as there are bastards in every walk of life, every group thete ever was.
Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 11:00 AM (Zzbjj)

I did not mean the statement to be only in the negative as it can tell you good things about an author as well.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 03, 2022 11:02 AM (dNqv+)

358 It's a theory the Fake Vax is a genetic experiment wrecking the immunity system.

Posted by: Skip at September 03, 2022 11:02 AM (k8B25)

359 349. You want to be kind to them? Exile?

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 11:03 AM (Zzbjj)

360 The only way Biden could have made this more on the nose is to have regiments of soldiers lined up in front of him. He hit EVERY other telltale.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Needed more Horst Wessel Lied.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 03, 2022 11:03 AM (FVME7)

361 With the situation in Eastern Europe, the actions of the various actors are so strange, so contrary to conventional great power politics, that it's only natural to wonder what the heck is going on behind the scenes.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 11:04 AM (llXky)

362 NASA rocket launch of Artemis planned today may be another scrub.

Launch director needs to show those engineers who is in charge and launch!

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 03, 2022 11:04 AM (KpMlc)

363 Prayers up for all in need.

Posted by: Lola at September 03, 2022 11:04 AM (NIYa7)

364 "So then just out of curiosity, who are the good guys?"

Civilians everywhere who are slow enough that they can't get out of the way of flying explosives or step on mines?

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at September 03, 2022 11:04 AM (1DgE4)

365 Shades of 1990 at the Pad again. It's amazing how much knowledge is lost in a couple of generations. This time it's only a 8 inch coupling.

Posted by: pawn at September 03, 2022 11:04 AM (wsHtO)

366 So then just out of curiosity, who are the good guys?

Us? The Ukes? Who? I don't see any.

Posted by: BurtTC

I know where this discussion leads, and I'm trying to avoid the morass.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2022 11:01 AM (/NCI4)

Ok. I don't know where it leads, and frankly I'm still perplexed as to how anyone can find good guys in any of this.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 11:05 AM (NWBBy)

367 PROFOUNDLY disagree that Ukraine is the new South Vietnam.

I don't even know where to start. The most important difference is that the govt of South Vietnam was profoundly unpopular-- a French client state we inherited. Catholic & mandarin & tainted by colonialism, in a polity that was overwhelmingly Buddhist & peasant. The ARVN, according to many of our GIs who observed it for a decade, didn't have a lot of will to fight & win.

Ukraine fights. It has the support of the populace, obviously. We're not trying to reanimate a corpse, as were in VN.

Posted by: mnw at September 03, 2022 11:05 AM (NLIak)

368 That's good news,Emmie! The first buyers backed out on the house I bought because an inspection showed termite damage. Seller agreed to pay for pest control. They found no live pests when they tested again.

I hope your deal completes and you can be on your way.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 03, 2022 11:05 AM (9WSy4)

369 364. Yep. The ones who voted for Zelensky believing his bullshit about being "a uniter". Seems a common theme.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 11:05 AM (Zzbjj)

370 The good guys are the ones on all sides being trampled. Zelensky promised to be a good guy, but wasn't .

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 11:02 AM (Zzbjj)
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He's publicly vowed to take back the Crimea. How? With what? He'd be advancing into a strategic cul-de-sac with a wide open eastern flank. Crack open a history book and see how that works out.

As I said, this is all so irrational as to require an explanation other than the one we've been given.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 11:06 AM (llXky)

371 362 NASA rocket launch of Artemis planned today may be another scrub.

Launch director needs to show those engineers who is in charge and launch!
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 03, 2022 11:04 AM (KpMlc)
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Both scrubs are due to quick disconnect. Will they have to take it back to Assembly Building? If so, yikes.

Posted by: WisRich at September 03, 2022 11:07 AM (qKfc+)

372 Good morning Hordemates.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 03, 2022 11:07 AM (4klxU)

373 320 318. I think anyone attempting to resurrect dinosaurs should be executed.
Posted by: CN
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Yes. And all this grinder stuff.
Manipulating genes to make novel life is wrong.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 11:07 AM (/jZjK)

374 Some nutcase stole a plane in Tupelo, MS and is threatening to crash it into the local Walmart.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 03, 2022 11:08 AM (nSdVr)

375 "So then just out of curiosity, who are the good guys?"
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Civilians everywhere who are slow enough that they can't get out of the way of flying explosives or step on mines?
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at September 03, 2022 11:04 AM (1DgE4)

I suppose so. As it is, always. I guess I'm talking about the players moving the pieces on the chess board, not the pawns being sacrificed along the way.

I do wonder though, since there have been hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Afghans killed by us, and in other wars, other Muzzies killed by our proxies, how many Americans look at those "innocent" Muslims as the good guys?

Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 11:08 AM (NWBBy)

376 "Never knew sour cream and beef went together so well until I ate at a Mexican restaurant."

Never had Beef Stroganoff?

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at September 03, 2022 11:08 AM (C1rbv)

377 I hope your deal completes and you can be on your way.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 03, 2022 11:05 AM (9WSy4)


I'm excited for you as well! Believe it or not, we have an unusual number of friends moving to Kansas. I guess it's because there are great deals in small towns?

Posted by: Emmie at September 03, 2022 11:09 AM (6RgRK)

378 Ukraine fights. It has the support of the populace, obviously. We're not trying to reanimate a corpse, as were in VN."

Ukes have been shelling their own citizens for years before the Russkis decided to have a go.

Killed over 14k in the years leading up to the war. So I would say that the populace of the Donbas doesnt support the drug addict comiedian.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at September 03, 2022 11:09 AM (1DgE4)

379 370. He also promised to lay off the Donbas and stop the shelling.

He'll never get Crimea, and the fact that Nikita gave it to Ukraine means nothing. And yeah, trying would lead to horror

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 11:09 AM (Zzbjj)

380 Tucker completely ignores the body count on the Left's traditional failures thru incompetency.

Posted by: DaveA at September 03, 2022 11:09 AM (FhXTo)

381 Grrl Power!

Launch Director will be 'thinking' about engineer recommendation to scrub.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 03, 2022 11:09 AM (KpMlc)

382 >>Both scrubs are due to quick disconnect.
Posted by: WisRich

Probably manufactured in China. NASA had a 20 percent off coup from Harbor Freight.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 03, 2022 11:10 AM (nSdVr)

383 373. Yep. But man wants so desperately to be God.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 11:10 AM (Zzbjj)

384 Mmmmm. Beef Stroganoff.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 03, 2022 11:10 AM (dNqv+)

385 "The good guys" are the ones laying down their lives in great numbers to prevent their country from being extinguished, & reabsorbed into the new Russian empire.

I doubt the U.S. today could fight to save itself as well as UKR is.

Posted by: mnw at September 03, 2022 11:10 AM (NLIak)

386 "I do wonder though, since there have been hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Afghans killed by us, and in other wars, other Muzzies killed by our proxies, how many Americans look at those "innocent" Muslims as the good guys?
Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 11:08 AM (NWBBy)

Inshallah.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at September 03, 2022 11:10 AM (1DgE4)

387 369 364. Yep. The ones who voted for Zelensky believing his bullshit about being "a uniter". Seems a common theme.
Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 11:05 AM (Zzbjj)

Sort of related, I saw how the other day, Jon Stewart caused himself considerable embarrassment, when he (literally?) embraced a Uke soldier who was wounded or whatever... and it turns out the soldier is a literal nazi.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 11:11 AM (NWBBy)

388 Ukraine fights. It has the support of the populace, obviously. We're not trying to reanimate a corpse, as were in VN.

Posted by: mnw at September 03, 2022 11:05 AM (NLIak)
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And yet South Vietnam fell only after we refused resupply in the face of a massive conventional mechanized attack.

The thing I find off-putting about the whole situation is how *no one* is calling for peace talks. Everyone wants a holy war against Russia. Not Putin, RUSSIA. Ban their books, their music, their language.

Annihilate all Russian things!

That's creepy as hell.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 11:11 AM (llXky)

389 BtW, we're pretty certain how my wife contracted the infection: Her 80 y/o dermatologist prescribed a daily erythromycin for some light acne she had. It worked, but, over time, also wiped her gut bacteria. This gave the infection the toe-hold it needed.
Daily use of antibiotics isn't smart.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 03, 2022 11:11 AM (7Fj9P)

390 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 11:06 AM (llXky)

Think of the Ukraine as a financial Amazon rain forest. The Amazon is the lungs of Earth, inhaling dirty CO2 and exhaling O2. Ukraine takes in your hard-earned tax dollars and puts out sweet, sweet bribes to American politicians.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at September 03, 2022 11:13 AM (Spr0s)

391 Prayers for the horde

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 03, 2022 11:13 AM (EGSGm)

392 Think of the Ukraine as a financial Amazon rain forest. The Amazon is the lungs of Earth, inhaling dirty CO2 and exhaling O2. Ukraine takes in your hard-earned tax dollars and puts out sweet, sweet bribes to American politicians.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at September 03, 2022 11:13 AM (Spr0s)

And kills thousands and thousands of "innocent" Ukes.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 11:14 AM (NWBBy)

393 One other thing: Unlike SVN, UKR isn't asking half a million U.S. soldiers to do their dying FOR them, is it?

Posted by: mnw at September 03, 2022 11:15 AM (NLIak)

394 I think the Ukrainian people want the war.
They hate the Russians and want them gone.
I don't blame them.

The corruption is a parallel issue.
It will continue Russia or no Russia.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 11:15 AM (/jZjK)

395 386. They're like the low level greenies who believe the planet will die. I feel sad for them. The WEF types are the ones I despise.

I looked through the list of US WEF fellows and found a former friend's kid. A greenie on the rise, preaching the virtues of doing with less, while raking it in and buying big houses, and flashy vehicles. It's like a religion and this kid is a disgraced televangelist in the making.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 11:15 AM (Zzbjj)

396 335 Oh Emmie! Congratulations!! There is no better feeling. I will keep my fingers crossed that everything is smooth as glass from here on in. When is the closing?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 03, 2022 10:55 AM (Y+l9t)


Thanks, Sharon! We close 9-23, just one day prior to our last obligation in this town (at least for a little while). We will be staying in a hotel or with friends the last couple of days.

Posted by: Emmie at September 03, 2022 11:16 AM (6RgRK)

397 "The good guys" are the ones laying down their lives in great numbers to prevent their country from being extinguished, & reabsorbed into the new Russian empire.

Posted by: mnw at September 03, 2022 11:10 AM (NLIak)
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Dude, please. The Ukraine historically bounced back and forth between Russian, Polish and Mongol control. Oh, and Varangians and stuff.

Under the Empire, they did great. It was the Soviets what tried to wipe them out - along with Poles, Jews, Russians, etc.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 11:16 AM (llXky)

398 Some nutcase stole a plane in Tupelo, MS and is threatening to crash it into the local Walmart.
Posted by: Maj. Healey

Stole a plane in Tupelo
waitin' for a train
feelin' near as faded as my jeans....

Posted by: JT at September 03, 2022 11:16 AM (T4tVD)

399 394. If they wanted the war he wouldn't have had to ban men from leaving the country.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 11:16 AM (Zzbjj)

400 This is an excellent point. Why should Ukraine quit when we are financing their entire government ?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 03, 2022 10:48 AM (Y+l9t)


Rather, how can the afford to quit

Posted by: Kindltot at September 03, 2022 11:18 AM (xhaym)

401 One other thing: Unlike SVN, UKR isn't asking half a million U.S. soldiers to do their dying FOR them, is it?

Posted by: mnw at September 03, 2022 11:15 AM (NLIak)

Then why does ukraine want to be part of nato then except to let someone else die for them?

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at September 03, 2022 11:18 AM (1DgE4)

402 Prayers for the horde
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion

That's better than being stabbed !

Posted by: JT at September 03, 2022 11:19 AM (T4tVD)

403 I'm really amazed at people claiming naked realpolitik is now moral.

As it: "Wow, what a deal, we can get thousands of Ukrainians to die for our geostrategic goals against Russia. All we have to do is send bodybags and bullets!"

This is not the 'own' people think it is.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 11:20 AM (llXky)

404 ukraine parliment votes themselves a pay raise. How nice to have money like that when everything is needed to buy mre's for the troops.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at September 03, 2022 11:20 AM (1DgE4)

405 392. The azov type are evil, the conscripts are dying. Bunch of azovs were feted at Disney. They wore long sleeves in August to hide the ugly telltale tats.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 11:20 AM (Zzbjj)

406 Launch Director needs to man up and send an engineer up there to reconnect that coupler.
It'll be a sacrifice but someone has to do it.

Sheesh didnt she see Bidens speach?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 03, 2022 11:20 AM (KpMlc)

407 SLS scrub.

The bright side is that the techs at the launch pad are looking at triple overtime this weekend.

Posted by: pawn at September 03, 2022 11:20 AM (wsHtO)

408 "The good guys" are the ones laying down their lives in great numbers to prevent their country from being extinguished, & reabsorbed into the new Russian empire.

Posted by: mnw at September 03, 2022 11:10 AM (NLIak)

Again, I ask the parallel question: How many here would consider Muslims to be "good guys," laying down their lives in great numbers, to prevent their countries from being extinguished and/or absorbed into an already existing and ever expanding American empire?

Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 11:21 AM (NWBBy)

409 403. No. It's not. That video of McCain still creeps me out. Meggie- moo, daddy was a bad man.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 11:21 AM (Zzbjj)

410 Then why does ukraine want to be part of nato then except to let someone else die for them?

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at September 03, 2022 11:18 AM (1DgE4)
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We have state national guard forces with more functional tanks than Germany.

But NATO must be expanded because there maybe some other state that wants to outsource its defense budget to us!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 11:21 AM (llXky)

411 Under the Empire, they did great. It was the Soviets what tried to wipe them out - along with Poles, Jews, Russians, etc.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 11:16 AM (llXky)
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Except they don't think so and it's their country.
It is their country.
And the holodomor is a meaningful reminder to all, what the Russians are about.


Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 11:22 AM (/jZjK)

412 Geez, another scrub.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at September 03, 2022 11:22 AM (CCf67)

413 At werk today and getting a headache

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 03, 2022 11:22 AM (EGSGm)

414 411. Soviets. They're gone. Inherited guilt is a monster in every case.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 11:23 AM (Zzbjj)

415 Except they don't think so and it's their country.
It is their country.
And the holodomor is a meaningful reminder to all, what the Russians are about.


Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 11:22 AM (/jZjK)
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Stalin was Georgian. He killed pretty much everyone.

And if it's 'their country' why is the US required to arm it and fund its entire budget?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 11:23 AM (llXky)

416 One other thing: Unlike SVN, UKR isn't asking half a million U.S. soldiers to do their dying FOR them, is it?

Posted by: mnw at September 03, 2022 11:15 AM (NLIak)

Not yet. Right now we're in the sending advisors/military hardware phase.

Of course, one major difference is that North Vietnam didn't have nooks.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 11:24 AM (NWBBy)

417 I remember that there were quite a number of muslims that laid down there lives for a free Iraq. iirc it was our politicians that screwed them.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 11:24 AM (/jZjK)

418 410 Swedes say doing that will save them loads

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 11:24 AM (Zzbjj)

419 Why would sum dude steal an air plane and threaten to crash it into a Wally World?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 03, 2022 11:25 AM (KpMlc)

420 I do believe the dutch donated one working tank. How thoughtful of them.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at September 03, 2022 11:26 AM (1DgE4)

421 The azov type are evil, the conscripts are dying. Bunch of azovs were feted at Disney. They wore long sleeves in August to hide the ugly telltale tats.
Posted by: CN

The telltale tats.
That was a E.A. Poe story

Or was it The Telltale Cats ?

Or The Telltale Farts ?

Posted by: JT at September 03, 2022 11:26 AM (T4tVD)

422 I am torn about the reasoning. Who is insisting this continue and why? Does the Zelensky faction of oligarchs want this and have the goods on our pols? Are American oligarchs wanting the windfall that a Ukraine in the EU will bring?[ . . . ] Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 10:57 AM (Zzbjj)

Russia is supposedly starting military tribunals in Marupol

https://tinyurl.com/3j3am8n2

Posted by: Kindltot at September 03, 2022 11:27 AM (xhaym)

423 Soon we will have Finland and Sweeden to pay for. It's only the right thing to do. The American taxpayer has plenty to go around these days.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at September 03, 2022 11:27 AM (1DgE4)

424 Not yet. Right now we're in the sending advisors/military hardware phase.

Of course, one major difference is that North Vietnam didn't have nooks.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 11:24 AM (NWBBy)
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Yes, and we have a lot of troops there doing training and such.

And last I heard, when US politicians called for our aircraft to secure Ukraine's' skies, no one in Kiev said "No, we've got this, don't risk your lives."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 11:28 AM (llXky)

425 416 of course they did! At the start, Zelensky wanted instant membership and plenty in DC were up for boots on the ground. Biden went to Poland to address the 101st.
Someone, said " no", and I thank them.

Time to turn off the dollars and stop this. No more 20 year wars.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 11:28 AM (Zzbjj)

426 I do believe the dutch donated one working tank. How thoughtful of them.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80

AOP could do better than that !

Posted by: JT at September 03, 2022 11:28 AM (T4tVD)

427 Emmie, I am so happy for you. Where are you going?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 03, 2022 11:28 AM (Y+l9t)

428 If you speak of that funny movie, ibf will get you.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at September 03, 2022 11:28 AM (NBxAd)

429 Stalin was Georgian. He killed pretty much everyone.
And if it's 'their country' why is the US required to arm it and fund its entire budget?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 11:23 AM (llXky)
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Not talking about any ancillary emotions.

Ukraine belongs to the Ukrainians.
It is their country.
The Russians invaded their country.
They hate the Russians.
They are giving their lives to get rid of the Russians.
Whether Stalin killed anyone else is moot.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 11:29 AM (/jZjK)

430 Archimedes, isn't that what we've done by letting our energy independence go, reduced to begging the Saudis and bowing down to Iran.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 03, 2022 10:58 AM (Y+l9t)


And steel and chips, and textiles, and furniture, and ceramics, and clothing, and shoes

Posted by: Kindltot at September 03, 2022 11:29 AM (xhaym)

431 424. He was demanding that we secure the air space. Fortunately Poland refused to diver the jets. And Blinken backed down

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 11:30 AM (Zzbjj)

432 Swedes say doing that will save them loads

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 11:24 AM (Zzbjj)
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I've got a copy of Jane's Armored Vehicles from the 1970s. It's fascinating to see how even small countries were producing their own weapons, building artillery and tanks. Sure, a bunch took surplus or foreign purchases, but even then it was still "a thing" to defend your own country.

Now the US will do it - and pay you for the honor!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 11:30 AM (llXky)

433 If you speak of that funny movie, ibf will get you.
Posted by: humphreyrobot

Promethius ?

Posted by: JT at September 03, 2022 11:30 AM (T4tVD)

434 One must edit himself on the altar of Pixy to complete a post.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 11:30 AM (/jZjK)

435 I know where this discussion leads, and I'm trying to avoid the morass.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 03, 2022 11:01 AM (/NCI4)

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Wait. There's morass?

Posted by: Mayor Pete at September 03, 2022 11:30 AM (Qzn2/)

436 https://alawata-rebellion.blogspot.com/

craniacs bees murdering their own for years. Poor sweet craniacs just gotta shell the donbas. poor ukie nazis just gotta do it.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at September 03, 2022 11:31 AM (1DgE4)

437 429 plenty of those "Ukrainians" were and are Russians. These days we're pretty liberal with ethnic cleansing though

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 11:31 AM (Zzbjj)

438 Ukraine belongs to the Ukrainians.
It is their country.
The Russians invaded their country.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 11:29 AM (/jZjK)
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What is the historical, immutable boundary between these two countries? Has it changed over time?

What strategic US interest is served by picking a particular line on the map?

Are we in full-on "Donbas or Death!" mode yet?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 11:31 AM (llXky)

439 And steel and chips, and textiles, and furniture, and ceramics, and clothing, and shoes
Posted by: Kindltot at September 03, 2022 11:29 AM (xhaym)

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NOT CERAMICS!!!

Posted by: Fawn Liebowitz at September 03, 2022 11:32 AM (Qzn2/)

440 Time to turn off the dollars and stop this. No more 20 year wars.
Posted by: CN
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The House controls the purse strings.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 11:32 AM (/jZjK)

441 Off to do some shooting in the woods with the guys! Have a great day morons!

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 03, 2022 11:32 AM (U2p+3)

442 436. They shell the donbas because they are not seen as " their own".

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 11:33 AM (Zzbjj)

443 {{Nurse}}
Have a great day! I get to go tomorrow. So much fun.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 03, 2022 11:33 AM (Y+l9t)

444 Are we in full-on "Donbas or Death!" mode yet?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 11:31 AM (llXky)

I think that's the end game. ukraine is the end point for so much graft and corruption that the US deep state cant let it go.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at September 03, 2022 11:34 AM (1DgE4)

445 Have fun and stay safe Nurse !

Posted by: JT at September 03, 2022 11:34 AM (T4tVD)

446 To be clear, I'm just trying to figure out what is at stake. Spare me the "moral duty to police the world" crap.

There's a ton of countries we let stew in their own juices and they're usually better off for it.

To put it another way: is there any boundary dispute we *shouldn't* get involved in? Is that what we do now?

God's Anointed Border Patrol (well, except our own).

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 11:34 AM (llXky)

447 440 and Nancy is into it for the graft.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 11:34 AM (Zzbjj)

448 441 Off to do some shooting in the woods with the guys! Have a great day morons!
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 03, 2022 11:32 AM (U2p+3)

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"With" the guys. Phew.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 03, 2022 11:34 AM (Qzn2/)

449 444. I, too, believe this is all about wealth.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 11:35 AM (Zzbjj)

450 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 11:31 AM (llXky)
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You keep bringing up tertiary arguments.

My argument is that Ukraine is sovereign.
Russia belligerently invaded Ukraine.
Ukraine has the right, and rightfully, the obligation to defend itself.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 11:36 AM (/jZjK)

451 446. We have no moral duty to Ukraine

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 11:36 AM (Zzbjj)

452 To put it another way: is there any boundary dispute we *shouldn't* get involved in? Is that what we do now?

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If a dispute erupts over Schlesweig-Holstein again we should definitely stand aside.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 03, 2022 11:36 AM (Qzn2/)

453 Ok. I don't know where it leads, and frankly I'm still perplexed as to how anyone can find good guys in any of this.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 03, 2022 11:05 AM (NWBBy)


Well, first stop looking for good guys there, and focus on what is attainable. Let's look for people who aren't murderous bastards in it for profit and power.
If that sorting comes up zero, then relax some standards and run it again.

(good guys are like that barber downtown who is a deacon of the church and volunteers at the shelter.)

Posted by: Kindltot at September 03, 2022 11:37 AM (xhaym)

454 So, a similarity between SVN and Ukraine is that DC supports what ever gets them the most money. Things never really change.

Posted by: pawn at September 03, 2022 11:37 AM (wsHtO)

455 Ukraine has the right, and rightfully, the obligation to defend itself."

Be nice if they could do it with their own money but that isn't happening is it?

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at September 03, 2022 11:38 AM (1DgE4)

456 My argument is that Ukraine is sovereign.
Russia belligerently invaded Ukraine.
Ukraine has the right, and rightfully, the obligation to defend itself.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03,
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No one disputes Ukraine's right to resist. You've beaten that straw man to pieces.

The question is why the United States needs to defend a Soviet-drawn administrative boundary.

Nations violate boundaries all the time. Why is this one - which is notoriously fluid - so important?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 11:38 AM (llXky)

457 No KT today ?

Posted by: JT at September 03, 2022 11:38 AM (T4tVD)

458 450. Did Yugoslavia have the right to toss the KLA?

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 11:38 AM (Zzbjj)

459 NOOD KT

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 03, 2022 11:39 AM (ynpvh)

460 Never had Beef Stroganoff?
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at September 03, 2022 11:08 AM (C1rbv)


Grammie made it with cottage cheese.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 03, 2022 11:39 AM (xhaym)

461 Spain has a better territorial claim on Texas than Ukraine does on the Crimea.

I guess we should fork it over, huh.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 11:39 AM (llXky)

462 461. Agree.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 11:40 AM (Zzbjj)

463 I doubt the U.S. today could fight to save itself as well as UKR is.
Posted by: mnw at September 03, 2022 11:10 AM (NLIak)


Stop looking for good guys, there aren't any.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 03, 2022 11:41 AM (xhaym)

464 No one disputes Ukraine's right to resist. You've beaten that straw man to pieces.
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Tell that to the Ukrainians on the ground.
Tell that to the Ukrainians who have family in the ground.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 11:42 AM (/jZjK)

465 They are giving their lives to get rid of the Russians.
Whether Stalin killed anyone else is moot.
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 11:29 AM (/jZjK)


There are no good people here. This isn't Real Madrid v Arsenal.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 03, 2022 11:48 AM (xhaym)

466 461 Spain has a better territorial claim on Texas than Ukraine does on the Crimea.

I guess we should fork it over, huh.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 03, 2022 11:39 AM (llXky)
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Balderdash

Now, you are confusing three arguments.
Whether Ukraine is sovereign.
Whether Ukraine should defend itself,
and whether the US should be involved.

Mixing whether the US should be involved and Ukraine's right of sovereignty confounds the argument.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 11:49 AM (/jZjK)

467 Mixing whether the US should be involved and Ukraine's right of sovereignty confounds the argument.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 11:49 AM (/jZjK)


No, that is the heart of the argument. Should the US be supporting and so enabling the war in UKR?

Without US support there would be no war. There would be negotiations.

Thank all the people sending weapons to UKR for the ability to kill more civilians and soldiers every day.
Thank the members of congress who do nothing.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 03, 2022 11:54 AM (xhaym)

468 Mixing whether the US should be involved and Ukraine's right of sovereignty confounds the argument.
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 11:49 AM (/jZjK)

You continue to avoid Ukraine's years long artillery/bombing campaign in the Donbas and the 2014 coup of a legitimately elected government that was friendly to Russia. And the coup plotters who refused to have another internationally monitored election as an alternative.

Posted by: polynikes at September 03, 2022 11:54 AM (PmzDg)

469 467 we had less right to bomb Yugoslavia over Albanians than the Russians have to protect Russians.

We have no business financing the Ukes' war.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 11:56 AM (Zzbjj)

470 468. Convenient isn't it.

Posted by: CN at September 03, 2022 11:57 AM (Zzbjj)

471 Then the argument is not whether the Ukrainians should fight but that we shouldn't be involved. But those that don't want us involved insist on bringing their personal ideologies concerning the character of the Ukrainians, their border, and other distracting opinion.

If it's our uninvolvement then make that the argument.
Impugn the American money grifters and not those trying to save their country.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 12:03 PM (/jZjK)

472 You continue to avoid Ukraine's years long artillery/bombing campaign in the Donbas and the 2014 coup of a legitimately elected government that was friendly to Russia.
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Your talking about the Russians shipped in by the train load that have been asked and told to leave for years.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 03, 2022 12:04 PM (/jZjK)

473 Your talking about the Russians shipped in by the train load that have been asked and told to leave for years.

Not our problem. We have enough of our own.

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