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Paul Sperry: The FBI Team That Ran Crossfire Hurricane -- Currently Under Investigation by IG John Durham -- Is of Course the Team That Ran the Mar-a-Lago Raid
Why shouldn't they be.
Why shouldn't they be.The FBI division overseeing the investigation of former President Trump's handling of classified material at his Mar-a-Lago residence is also a focus of Special Counsel John Durham's investigation of the bureau's alleged abuses of power and political bias during its years-long Russiagate probe of Trump. The FBI's nine-hour, 30-agent raid of the former president's Florida estate is part of a counterintelligence case run out of Washington -- not Miami, as has been widely reported -- according to FBI case documents and sources with knowledge of the matter. The bureau's counterintelligence division led the 2016-2017 Russia "collusion" investigation of Trump, codenamed "Crossfire Hurricane." Although the former head of Crossfire Hurricane, Peter Strzok, was fired after the disclosure of his vitriolic anti-Trump tweets, several members of his team remain working in the counterintelligence unit, the sources say, even though they are under active investigation by both Durham and the bureau's disciplinary arm, the Office of Professional Responsibility. The FBI declined to respond to questions about any role they may be taking in the Mar-a-Lago case. In addition, a key member of the Crossfire team -- Supervisory Intelligence Analyst Brian Auten -- has continued to be involved in politically sensitive investigations, including the ongoing federal probe of potentially incriminating content found on the abandoned laptop of President Biden's son Hunter Biden, according to recent correspondence between the Senate Judiciary Committee and FBI Director Christopher Wray. FBI whistleblowers have alleged that Auten tried to falsely discredit derogatory evidence against Hunter Biden during the 2020 campaign by labeling it Russian "disinformation," an assessment that caused investigative activity to cease. Auten has been allowed to work on sensitive cases even though he has been under internal investigation since 2019, when Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz referred him for disciplinary review for his role in vetting a Hillary Clinton campaign-funded dossier used by the FBI to obtain a series of wiretap warrants to spy on former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page. Horowitz singled out Auten for cutting a number of corners in the verification process and even allowing information he knew to be incorrect slip into warrant affidavits and mislead the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act court. In congressional testimony this month, Wray confirmed that "a number of" former Crossfire Hurricane team members are still employed at the bureau while undergoing disciplinary review. In the meantime, Wray has walled off the former Russiagate investigators only from participating in FISA wiretap applications, according to the sources.Hey guys -- don't criticize the Smug Twitter Liberals with Guns. It's too dangerous for them. We'll just have to stop criticizing our clearly corrupt government. It's The American Way Now (TM). At American Greatness, Adam Mill disagrees that this is The American Way Now (TM). After recounting the FBI's illegal and corrupt stormtrooper behavior over the past six years -- and its absurd claims that it cannot make its affidavits and warrants public, as that would expose "sources and methods," as it leaks like crazy to all of its favorite leftwing corporate media stenographers, he thinks it's time instead to criticize them more stingingly.
Speaking of sources, the FBI appears to have activated its many allies, including some Republicans, to come to its defense. Former Vice President Mike Pence, according to the Times, "called on Republicans to stop attacking the nation's top law enforcement agencies over the F.B.I.'s search of Mar-a-Lago." Other "moderates," says the Times, "chastised their colleagues for the broadsides against law enforcement." That's absurd. The FBI must feel the hot sting of public condemnation or the abuses will continue to escalate. There are many peaceful and legal avenues the public can and should take to push back against the FBI. Further, we should pay close attention to the names of Republicans who feel a mysterious compulsion to defend this clearly indefensible raid. It might be worth asking whether any FBI personnel contacted any public official to lobby for public relations support and whether anything was said to help motivate these public figures.Updated: I don't know if that's necessary. The standard braindead Don't Know What Time It Is conservazombie is still possessed by a slavish leathergimp fetishization of anything having to do with authority, even when that authority is being used to crush them. Because Tradition. Because that's the way things were 20 years ago, when things were completely different. Because while leftwing NPCs get their coding updated from Central Processing Command every week or ten days, "conservative" NPCs are incapable of getting their coding updated, ever. It's all hardware, no software. It was 2003. It is 2003. It will always be 2003. He has a great last line to the column. He demands that the full affidavit be made public -- the FBI leaks from it as it finds it convenient, so might as well cut out the middleman and just make it public now -- and says, repeating the FBI's own bullshit back to it, If you have nothing to hide, why not just come clean now?
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In the clip before he is seen with MAGA cap, USCP Lieutenant Johnson can be seen entering with officers tailed by several Oath Keepers.
— Ford Fischer (@FordFischer) August 18, 2022
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"Kiddie porn raid out of the SD office? Those guys are never getting promoted unless they pass on the good stuff to my Dropshare."
-Chris Wray
-Chris Wray
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 19, 2022 12:11 PM (LvTSG)
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He demands that the full affidavit be made public -- the FBI leaks from it as it finds it convenient, so might as well cut out the middleman and just make it public now -- and says, repeating the FBI's own bullshit back to it, If you have nothing to hide, why not just come clean now?
Because that would suck for us.
Because that would suck for us.
Posted by: FBI at August 19, 2022 12:12 PM (/NCI4)
Posted by: FBI at August 19, 2022 12:12 PM (/NCI4)
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Hola
Posted by: Thanatopsis at August 19, 2022 12:12 PM (Kqk59)
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test
Posted by: Archimedes at August 19, 2022 12:12 PM (/NCI4)
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John Durham's only real job was to pretend to be doing something while he ran out the clock on any possible action being taken.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2022 12:12 PM (trdmm)
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New high! Italicans take over the entire blog. Cool.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 19, 2022 12:13 PM (OTzUX)
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6 John Durham's only real job was to pretend to be doing something while he ran out the clock on any possible action being taken.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2022 12:12 PM (trdmm)
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I like to imagine that he's going to still come up with some kind of permanent punishment for someone in the conspiracy.
I don't think it'll be earth shattering or slow down the left at all, but I like to think that someone, somewhere will be in prison for at least a month.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2022 12:12 PM (trdmm)
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I like to imagine that he's going to still come up with some kind of permanent punishment for someone in the conspiracy.
I don't think it'll be earth shattering or slow down the left at all, but I like to think that someone, somewhere will be in prison for at least a month.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 19, 2022 12:14 PM (LvTSG)
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Anybody else sick of the, "sources and methods," crap? Why does the FBI get to keep their shit secret? How can, "We the people," know if our agencies are working for us if they don't have to tell us what they're doing?
Posted by: Haimerej at August 19, 2022 12:14 PM (PKV/k)
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FBI: we're a clean as snow... yeah, yellow snow.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 19, 2022 12:14 PM (YrqGW)
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It really is incredible. Not only were they not fired, they were kept on, promoted, and moved to higher level CIA assignments.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 19, 2022 12:14 PM (CxCEK)
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John Durham's only real job was to pretend to be doing something while he ran out the clock on any possible action being taken.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2022 12:12 PM (trdmm)
He's really writing "his novel".
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2022 12:12 PM (trdmm)
He's really writing "his novel".
Posted by: BignJames at August 19, 2022 12:14 PM (AwYPR)
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Jury nullification.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 19, 2022 12:14 PM (hwoGt)
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Good Morning Ace.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 19, 2022 12:15 PM (Y+l9t)
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see the update which is really important
Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 19, 2022 12:15 PM (B3oWe)
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Operation Crossfire Boomerang.
Posted by: ShainS -- VDH-Endorsed-by-Proxy Connoisseur of Cruelty at August 19, 2022 12:15 PM (WtAgB)
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Anyone criticizing the FBI needs to be accidentally shot in the face.
Posted by: Alec Baldwin at August 19, 2022 12:15 PM (yMAlj)
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The hubris is gobsmack worthy.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2022 12:15 PM (vT4Co)
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>>How can, "We the people," know if our agencies are working for us if they don't have to tell us what they're doing?
You answered your own question. They don't want us to know what they are doing because it would show rampant corruption and spying on American citizens.
You answered your own question. They don't want us to know what they are doing because it would show rampant corruption and spying on American citizens.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 19, 2022 12:15 PM (ZLI7S)
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13 Jury nullification.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 19, 2022 12:14 PM (hwoGt)
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"This is insurrection."
-Soros DA not prosecuting anyone for anything ever
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 19, 2022 12:14 PM (hwoGt)
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"This is insurrection."
-Soros DA not prosecuting anyone for anything ever
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 19, 2022 12:15 PM (LvTSG)
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The Trump team's arguments should be "what sources and methods are they protecting? As their sources and methods have failed us on 9/11, many mass shootings, Larry Nassar, Jeffrey Epstein, and thousands of other crimes that they FBI botched. If anything those sources and methods should be exposed to the light of day to see why the FBI is failing 99.9% of the time, and maybe then it can be fixed."
Posted by: Rbastid at August 19, 2022 12:15 PM (3+cYV)
Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 19, 2022 12:16 PM (B3oWe)
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I like to imagine that he's going to still come up with some kind of permanent punishment for someone in the conspiracy.
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lol
Suuuurrrre he will.
Naiveté is cute in children, not so much in adults.
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lol
Suuuurrrre he will.
Naiveté is cute in children, not so much in adults.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 19, 2022 12:16 PM (U/8Mz)
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It has been 2 years -2 years- since we were fretting over Durham indicting before or after Labor day.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 19, 2022 12:16 PM (hwoGt)
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Journalist Sharyl Attkisson had a horror story to relate about her interaction with the FBI.
https://tinyurl.com/2hrjamnf
I think defunding may be too good for 'em.
https://tinyurl.com/2hrjamnf
I think defunding may be too good for 'em.
Posted by: Paco at August 19, 2022 12:16 PM (njExo)
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I wish Durham would move a little faster, not that anything will happen. Garland and Monaco will just ignore the facts and keep on with their Gestapo tactics.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 19, 2022 12:16 PM (VWp7G)
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I was partying like a rock start last night, and am I little hung over so maybe I'm not thinking 100% straight.
But it occurs to me: is there any point in continuing this charade? Even if we win overwhelmingly in November -- a big "if" btw -- it won't make any real difference. The entire apparatus of the federal government and many of the states' will still be intentionally, maliciously targeting us for destruction. Who cares if we control the almost powerless Congress? That's not where the real power is.
I'm beginning to wonder whether we should just say "fuck it" and mobilize our armies to meet in the streets. No holds barred. May the best side win.
Am I crazy?
But it occurs to me: is there any point in continuing this charade? Even if we win overwhelmingly in November -- a big "if" btw -- it won't make any real difference. The entire apparatus of the federal government and many of the states' will still be intentionally, maliciously targeting us for destruction. Who cares if we control the almost powerless Congress? That's not where the real power is.
I'm beginning to wonder whether we should just say "fuck it" and mobilize our armies to meet in the streets. No holds barred. May the best side win.
Am I crazy?
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 12:16 PM (iFTx/)
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I like to imagine that he's going to still come up with some kind of permanent punishment for someone in the conspiracy.
I don't think it'll be earth shattering or slow down the left at all, but I like to think that someone, somewhere will be in prison for at least a month.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 19, 2022 12:14 PM (LvTSG)
Then a Hawaiian judge will overrule the punishment, and the criminal will get reinstated with back pay.
I like to imagine that he's going to still come up with some kind of permanent punishment for someone in the conspiracy.
I don't think it'll be earth shattering or slow down the left at all, but I like to think that someone, somewhere will be in prison for at least a month.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 19, 2022 12:14 PM (LvTSG)
Then a Hawaiian judge will overrule the punishment, and the criminal will get reinstated with back pay.
Posted by: Rbastid at August 19, 2022 12:17 PM (3+cYV)
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I'm beginning to wonder whether we should just say "fuck it" and mobilize our armies to meet in the streets. No holds barred. May the best side win.
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You have an army?
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You have an army?
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 19, 2022 12:17 PM (U/8Mz)
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>>>It has been 2 years -2 years- since we were fretting over Durham indicting before or after Labor day.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
And a D.C. judge I believe basically dismissed the charges and every wrongdoer got a slap on the wrist.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
And a D.C. judge I believe basically dismissed the charges and every wrongdoer got a slap on the wrist.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 19, 2022 12:17 PM (VWp7G)
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Una patria, un estado, un Chuy! Que viva!
Posted by: Paco at August 19, 2022 12:18 PM (njExo)
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Our republic needs to have its faith in the FBI restored so the affidavits must be made public in full to reassure America that the FBI is on the up-and-up. After all, if you haven't done anything wrong, what do you have to hide?
Posted by: SFGoth at August 19, 2022 12:18 PM (KAi1n)
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Have the Capitol Police and FBI been hiding video of the "insurrection" because they know Capitol Police officers permitted "insurrectors" into the Capitol, therefore giving them permission to be there, just as the Colbert Nine supposedly had?
Cruz and Paul should be perp-walked out of congress and shunned for the rest of their miserable lives for having awarded these treasonous, murdering bastards medals of bravery.
Cruz and Paul should be perp-walked out of congress and shunned for the rest of their miserable lives for having awarded these treasonous, murdering bastards medals of bravery.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 19, 2022 12:18 PM (AW0uW)
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Una patria, un estado, un Chuy! Que viva!
Posted by: Paco at August 19, 2022 12:18 PM (njExo)
!Viva zapatos!
Posted by: Paco at August 19, 2022 12:18 PM (njExo)
!Viva zapatos!
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at August 19, 2022 12:18 PM (AiZBA)
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That's the FBI thing, keep putting the same people working against their opponents from 1 job to the next.
Posted by: Skip's phone at August 19, 2022 12:18 PM (3UzHG)
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>>>But it occurs to me: is there any point in continuing this charade? Even if we win overwhelmingly in November -- a big "if" btw -- it won't make any real difference. The entire apparatus of the federal government and many of the states' will still be intentionally, maliciously targeting us for destruction. Who cares if we control the almost powerless Congress? That's not where the real power is.
The GOP will do nothing toward the FBI, DoJ, etc. Nothing at all. They talk a good game, but does anyone here truly think they will get to the bottom of the corruption?
The GOP will do nothing toward the FBI, DoJ, etc. Nothing at all. They talk a good game, but does anyone here truly think they will get to the bottom of the corruption?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 19, 2022 12:19 PM (VWp7G)
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Maybe a compact of Republican governors can denounce the FBI and instruct state law enforcement not to cooperate with the agency?
Posted by: mr tmz at August 19, 2022 12:19 PM (rJ48h)
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The FBI must feel the hot sting of public condemnation or the abuses will continue to escalate. There are many peaceful and legal avenues the public can and should take to push back against the FBI. Further, we should pay close attention to the names of Republicans who feel a mysterious compulsion to defend this clearly indefensible raid. It might be worth asking whether any FBI personnel contacted any public official to lobby for public relations support and whether anything was said to help motivate these public figures.
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I'll bet that the FBI (and the rest of the IC, in some degree of concert) have dossiers on every important person in the country. Cross them, go down. Chuck Schumer more or less admitted it. Did the FBI demand people carry torches for them? Maybe. But then again, they probably didn't need to. The people in charge know the score and will "work towards the fuhrer" with no prompting whatsoever.
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I'll bet that the FBI (and the rest of the IC, in some degree of concert) have dossiers on every important person in the country. Cross them, go down. Chuck Schumer more or less admitted it. Did the FBI demand people carry torches for them? Maybe. But then again, they probably didn't need to. The people in charge know the score and will "work towards the fuhrer" with no prompting whatsoever.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2022 12:19 PM (WWh8n)
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Same team that no doubt helped "fortify" the election with all the vitamins and minerals a growing boy needs.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 12:19 PM (pTl+J)
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Why would they use anyone else? I mean they know with 100% certainty that all of these guys are on team democrat and won't break under pressure.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 19, 2022 12:19 PM (bVYXr)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 19, 2022 12:19 PM (AW0uW)
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Can I just declare that I was right now?
This is an intelligence op designed to recover documents that Trump has that threatens the FBI.
This is not, and never was, a legal action intended to result in Trump's indictment. In fact this has ended up ensuring Trump WON'T be indicted, and they knew that from the start.
They have completely compromised any legal avenue that was open to them.
This is an intelligence op designed to recover documents that Trump has that threatens the FBI.
This is not, and never was, a legal action intended to result in Trump's indictment. In fact this has ended up ensuring Trump WON'T be indicted, and they knew that from the start.
They have completely compromised any legal avenue that was open to them.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 19, 2022 12:19 PM (5p7BC)
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27 I was partying like a rock start last night, and am I little hung over so maybe I'm not thinking 100% straight.
But it occurs to me: is there any point in continuing this charade? Even if we win overwhelmingly in November -- a big "if" btw -- it won't make any real difference. The entire apparatus of the federal government and many of the states' will still be intentionally, maliciously targeting us for destruction. Who cares if we control the almost powerless Congress? That's not where the real power is.
I'm beginning to wonder whether we should just say "fuck it" and mobilize our armies to meet in the streets. No holds barred. May the best side win.
Am I crazy?
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 12:16 PM (iFTx/)
Gaming out a Trump win in 2024, the only way to actually change the trajectory of the country is to do something monumental. Doing something monumental would invite an in-kind response. Defunding the FBI won't end with unemployed agents simply handing over their guns and walking away. Things will either get necessarily ugly or we'll just continue to drift apace.
But it occurs to me: is there any point in continuing this charade? Even if we win overwhelmingly in November -- a big "if" btw -- it won't make any real difference. The entire apparatus of the federal government and many of the states' will still be intentionally, maliciously targeting us for destruction. Who cares if we control the almost powerless Congress? That's not where the real power is.
I'm beginning to wonder whether we should just say "fuck it" and mobilize our armies to meet in the streets. No holds barred. May the best side win.
Am I crazy?
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 12:16 PM (iFTx/)
Gaming out a Trump win in 2024, the only way to actually change the trajectory of the country is to do something monumental. Doing something monumental would invite an in-kind response. Defunding the FBI won't end with unemployed agents simply handing over their guns and walking away. Things will either get necessarily ugly or we'll just continue to drift apace.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 19, 2022 12:19 PM (KbCG3)
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Eh. Maybe. I mean, this is one of those it fits the narrative, too fgood ot check things, right? OF COURSE its the same guys.
But, Sperry has been a source of hopium "Breaking News!" since that has been a thing.
I particularly take issue with this: "The FBI division overseeing the investigation of former President Trump's handling of classified material at his Mar-a-Lago residence is also a focus of Special Counsel John Durham's investigation of the bureau's alleged abuses of power and political bias during its years-long Russiagate probe of Trump."
Yeah, right. Durham is not investigating the FBI.
But, Sperry has been a source of hopium "Breaking News!" since that has been a thing.
I particularly take issue with this: "The FBI division overseeing the investigation of former President Trump's handling of classified material at his Mar-a-Lago residence is also a focus of Special Counsel John Durham's investigation of the bureau's alleged abuses of power and political bias during its years-long Russiagate probe of Trump."
Yeah, right. Durham is not investigating the FBI.
Posted by: blaster at August 19, 2022 12:20 PM (6TxNR)
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He has a great last line to the column. He demands that the full affidavit be made public -- the FBI leaks from it as it finds it convenient, so might as well cut out the middleman and just make it public now -- and says, repeating the FBI's own bullshit back to it, If you have nothing to hide, why not just come clean now?
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They cannot allow the rubes to sap and impurify all of their precious sources and methods.
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They cannot allow the rubes to sap and impurify all of their precious sources and methods.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2022 12:20 PM (WWh8n)
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Hmmm, it is interesting how the same handful of names keeps coming up. Not sure what it means, but it is interesting.
-prime movers? (Obvious)
-where are all the other guys? (you'd think they would switch things up)
-is using the same guys part of the kink? (or do they have to?)
-almost makes you think there are one faction with this handful of guys and a lot of time servers, happy to go along
-prime movers? (Obvious)
-where are all the other guys? (you'd think they would switch things up)
-is using the same guys part of the kink? (or do they have to?)
-almost makes you think there are one faction with this handful of guys and a lot of time servers, happy to go along
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 19, 2022 12:20 PM (dNqv+)
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Pence equates negative feelings about the FIB to leftists wanting to defund the police. He's went there and will live with it comes 2024.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 19, 2022 12:20 PM (m7R0k)
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that's why the don't want videos released.
ace, can you repost that story about the fed pig ped devils raiding one trump guy and basically goading him into fighting back, what was that about.
these armed thugs show up and hold people hostage at gunpoint without any chance to get a lawyer or whatever. the same thing for MAL which is odd since there was secret service protection, how'd they avoid a shootout?
ace, can you repost that story about the fed pig ped devils raiding one trump guy and basically goading him into fighting back, what was that about.
these armed thugs show up and hold people hostage at gunpoint without any chance to get a lawyer or whatever. the same thing for MAL which is odd since there was secret service protection, how'd they avoid a shootout?
Posted by: sockamster, doctor of love at August 19, 2022 12:20 PM (OuH7W)
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Have the Capitol Police and FBI been hiding video of the "insurrection" because they know Capitol Police officers permitted "insurrectors" into the Capitol, therefore giving them permission to be there, just as the Colbert Nine supposedly had?
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No, probably not. They're probably hiding the video because they don't want to have to do a bunch of linguistic gymnastics about why one was considered "permission" and the other was considered "insurrection."
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No, probably not. They're probably hiding the video because they don't want to have to do a bunch of linguistic gymnastics about why one was considered "permission" and the other was considered "insurrection."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2022 12:21 PM (WWh8n)
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>>>I'm beginning to wonder whether we should just say "fuck it" and mobilize our armies to meet in the streets. No holds barred. May the best side win.
Am I crazy?
Posted by: Elric Blade
Partially yes, because the Gestapo would murder the army on the streets and not even blink an eye.
Am I crazy?
Posted by: Elric Blade
Partially yes, because the Gestapo would murder the army on the streets and not even blink an eye.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 19, 2022 12:21 PM (VWp7G)
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Nothing to see here. Move along. Move along. Disperse.
Posted by: Riot when we tell you to riot, and not before at August 19, 2022 12:21 PM (5kBqk)
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A Harvard and a Yale law professor wrote an editorial for the New York Times called "The Constitution is Broken and Should Not Be Reclaimed" advocating that:
More aggressively, Congress could simply pass a Congress Act, reorganizing our legislature in ways that are more fairly representative of where people actually live and vote, and perhaps even reducing the Senate to a mere “council of revision” (a term Jamelle Bouie used to describe the Canadian Senate), without the power to obstruct laws.
In so doing, Congress would be pretty openly defying the Constitution to get to a more democratic order — and for that reason would need to insulate the law from judicial review. Fundamental values like racial equality or environmental justice would be protected not by law that stands apart from politics but — as they typically are — by ordinary expressions of popular will. And the basic structure of government, like whether to elect the president by majority vote or to limit judges to fixed terms, would be decided by present electorate as opposed to one from some foggy past.
More aggressively, Congress could simply pass a Congress Act, reorganizing our legislature in ways that are more fairly representative of where people actually live and vote, and perhaps even reducing the Senate to a mere “council of revision” (a term Jamelle Bouie used to describe the Canadian Senate), without the power to obstruct laws.
In so doing, Congress would be pretty openly defying the Constitution to get to a more democratic order — and for that reason would need to insulate the law from judicial review. Fundamental values like racial equality or environmental justice would be protected not by law that stands apart from politics but — as they typically are — by ordinary expressions of popular will. And the basic structure of government, like whether to elect the president by majority vote or to limit judges to fixed terms, would be decided by present electorate as opposed to one from some foggy past.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 19, 2022 12:21 PM (I2/tG)
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Posobiec keeps twittering that he has access to the full affidavit. Wouldn't it be marvelous if that was the case?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 19, 2022 12:22 PM (Y+l9t)
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I'm sure they're just giving the appearance of running around the law with absolutely impunity because they are desperate and scared.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 12:22 PM (pTl+J)
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In about 5 years Durham will get to this too.
Posted by: fd at August 19, 2022 12:22 PM (sn5EN)
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It might be worth asking whether any FBI personnel contacted any public official to lobby for public relations support and whether anything was said to help motivate these public figures.
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"Nice home, family, & reputation you got there. Be a shame if a no-knock 4:00am SWAT raid with CNN in tow discovered planted evidence of child porn along side a large stash of fentanyl -- and you were to go bankrupt defending yourself in court against the federal mafia's lawfare division."
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"Nice home, family, & reputation you got there. Be a shame if a no-knock 4:00am SWAT raid with CNN in tow discovered planted evidence of child porn along side a large stash of fentanyl -- and you were to go bankrupt defending yourself in court against the federal mafia's lawfare division."
Posted by: ShainS -- VDH-Endorsed-by-Proxy Connoisseur of Cruelty at August 19, 2022 12:22 PM (WtAgB)
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"The FBI must feel the hot sting of public condemnation or the abuses will continue to escalate. "
Not really. The Republicans are feeling a weird sensation where their balls used to be. The FBI knows if they bully them, people like Mike Ponce will channel their brief encounter with manhood into a bullying attack on the voters.
Not really. The Republicans are feeling a weird sensation where their balls used to be. The FBI knows if they bully them, people like Mike Ponce will channel their brief encounter with manhood into a bullying attack on the voters.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 19, 2022 12:22 PM (VF4WI)
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42 Can I just declare that I was right now?
This is an intelligence op designed to recover documents that Trump has that threatens the FBI.
This is not, and never was, a legal action intended to result in Trump's indictment. In fact this has ended up ensuring Trump WON'T be indicted, and they knew that from the start.
They have completely compromised any legal avenue that was open to them.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 19, 2022 12:19 PM (5p7BC)
Which again begs the question, why now? At least with Ukraine, there was a phone call showing Trump was threatening the grift. There wasn't a hint that Trump was about to release anything. So, why now?
This is an intelligence op designed to recover documents that Trump has that threatens the FBI.
This is not, and never was, a legal action intended to result in Trump's indictment. In fact this has ended up ensuring Trump WON'T be indicted, and they knew that from the start.
They have completely compromised any legal avenue that was open to them.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 19, 2022 12:19 PM (5p7BC)
Which again begs the question, why now? At least with Ukraine, there was a phone call showing Trump was threatening the grift. There wasn't a hint that Trump was about to release anything. So, why now?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 19, 2022 12:22 PM (KbCG3)
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>>Why would they use anyone else? I mean they know with 100% certainty that all of these guys are on team democrat and won't break under pressure.
I think that's kind of the point. Not only is it the same group doing the current Trump investigation and the Russia hoax they also did the Hillary email investigation.
It is the same small cabal at FBI HQ who runs all of these scams.
I think that's kind of the point. Not only is it the same group doing the current Trump investigation and the Russia hoax they also did the Hillary email investigation.
It is the same small cabal at FBI HQ who runs all of these scams.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 19, 2022 12:22 PM (ZLI7S)
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Wouldn't it be marvelous if that was the case?
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Wouldn't have any bearing on my life one way or the other, so no.
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Wouldn't have any bearing on my life one way or the other, so no.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 19, 2022 12:22 PM (U/8Mz)
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It might be worth asking whether any FBI personnel contacted any public official to lobby for public relations support and whether anything was said to help motivate these public figures.
Lobby, or threaten? I suspect it depends on the public official.
Lobby, or threaten? I suspect it depends on the public official.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 19, 2022 12:23 PM (lTGtQ)
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This is not, and never was, a legal action intended to result in Trump's indictment. In fact this has ended up ensuring Trump WON'T be indicted, and they knew that from the start.
They have completely compromised any legal avenue that was open to them.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 19, 2022 12:19 PM (5p7BC)
Mmm, yeah, I am going to have to kinda sorta disagree with you there. They are going to indict Trump. What can stop them? Why would they stop now? Because they've been found out? THEY WANT US TO KNOW. Because they are just rubbing our noses in it.
They have completely compromised any legal avenue that was open to them.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 19, 2022 12:19 PM (5p7BC)
Mmm, yeah, I am going to have to kinda sorta disagree with you there. They are going to indict Trump. What can stop them? Why would they stop now? Because they've been found out? THEY WANT US TO KNOW. Because they are just rubbing our noses in it.
Posted by: blaster at August 19, 2022 12:23 PM (6TxNR)
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" the FBI leaks from it as it finds it convenient, so might as well cut out the middleman and just make it public now"
I doubt the "nuke secrets" part the leaked is actually in the affidavit, but they can leak false info freely as misdirection, or justification.
I doubt the "nuke secrets" part the leaked is actually in the affidavit, but they can leak false info freely as misdirection, or justification.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 19, 2022 12:23 PM (Cus5s)
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Word is the entire afadavit has been selectively leaked.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 19, 2022 12:23 PM (VF4WI)
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Am I crazy?
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 12:16 PM (iFTx/)
No.
A true 'insurrection' - one with literal millions of people flooding the streets, buildings razed to the ground and politicians swinging from lampposts - would be about the only way to finally get the attention of the thieves and traitors who rule over us.
But absent some black swan event, that simply isn't going to happen. Nazi Germany, for example, might have lasted for decades had Schickelgruber not gone to war. Soviet Russia did last for decades. A totalitarian US could run for at least another 50 years before the people who deserve it get the Ceacescu treatment.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 12:16 PM (iFTx/)
No.
A true 'insurrection' - one with literal millions of people flooding the streets, buildings razed to the ground and politicians swinging from lampposts - would be about the only way to finally get the attention of the thieves and traitors who rule over us.
But absent some black swan event, that simply isn't going to happen. Nazi Germany, for example, might have lasted for decades had Schickelgruber not gone to war. Soviet Russia did last for decades. A totalitarian US could run for at least another 50 years before the people who deserve it get the Ceacescu treatment.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 19, 2022 12:23 PM (AW0uW)
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>>I'll bet that the FBI (and the rest of the IC, in some degree of concert) have dossiers on every important person in the country. Cross them, go down.
So, who's going to be the American people's Elliot Ness leading a band of "untouchables" to our rescue? Because, if you're right, it's going to hard to find them.
So, who's going to be the American people's Elliot Ness leading a band of "untouchables" to our rescue? Because, if you're right, it's going to hard to find them.
Posted by: Boswell at August 19, 2022 12:23 PM (+Cgut)
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34. !Viva zapatos! - Napoleon XIV
Absolutely! We can't be running around barefoot if we want to start a revolution.
Absolutely! We can't be running around barefoot if we want to start a revolution.
Posted by: Paco at August 19, 2022 12:24 PM (njExo)
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Have the Capitol Police and FBI been hiding video of the "insurrection" because they know Capitol Police officers permitted "insurrectors" into the Capitol, therefore giving them permission to be there, just as the Colbert Nine supposedly had?
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To ask is to answer.
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To ask is to answer.
Posted by: ShainS -- VDH-Endorsed-by-Proxy Connoisseur of Cruelty at August 19, 2022 12:24 PM (WtAgB)
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I think it's important to note that the left and media, BIRM, don't see this as an obvious op by the FBI is because they still believe the Russian story was true.
This looks like another truth, rather than a falsehood.
They really, sincerely believe Trump was a Russian spy and stole the 2016 election.
This looks like another truth, rather than a falsehood.
They really, sincerely believe Trump was a Russian spy and stole the 2016 election.
Posted by: MJ at August 19, 2022 12:24 PM (zwDuR)
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>>>"The FBI must feel the hot sting of public condemnation or the abuses will continue to escalate. "
LOL, never gonna happen. The Democrats won't chide the Gestapo, and neither will the GOP.
LOL, never gonna happen. The Democrats won't chide the Gestapo, and neither will the GOP.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 19, 2022 12:25 PM (VWp7G)
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I don't think it'll be earth shattering or slow down the left at all, but I like to think that someone, somewhere will be in prison for at least a month.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang
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Nothing but love for you bro, (the kind of love that a bro has for a bro) but no one but Trumpers ever get jail time.
Thems the rules.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang
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Nothing but love for you bro, (the kind of love that a bro has for a bro) but no one but Trumpers ever get jail time.
Thems the rules.
Posted by: You know the rules, and so do I at August 19, 2022 12:25 PM (++ODm)
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50 >>>I'm beginning to wonder whether we should just say "fuck it" and mobilize our armies to meet in the streets. No holds barred. May the best side win.
Am I crazy?
Posted by: Elric Blade
Partially yes, because the Gestapo would murder the army on the streets and not even blink an eye.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 19, 2022 12:21 PM (VWp7G)
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The same guys who stood around with their fingers up their asses while kids got murdered in Uvalde? The same guys who couldn't win a war in Afghanistan against a bunch of 7th Century peasants? The same incompetent, cowardly hacks who screwed up literally every armed confrontation of the last 30 years?
Am I crazy?
Posted by: Elric Blade
Partially yes, because the Gestapo would murder the army on the streets and not even blink an eye.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 19, 2022 12:21 PM (VWp7G)
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The same guys who stood around with their fingers up their asses while kids got murdered in Uvalde? The same guys who couldn't win a war in Afghanistan against a bunch of 7th Century peasants? The same incompetent, cowardly hacks who screwed up literally every armed confrontation of the last 30 years?
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 12:25 PM (iFTx/)
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Pence needs to be alone with more women.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 12:25 PM (pTl+J)
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That video needs more cowbell.
Posted by: fd at August 19, 2022 12:25 PM (sn5EN)
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"[H]e thinks it's time instead to criticize them more stingingly."
Couldn't help but read that line of Ace's sarcastically. Ooh, it's time to really give them the works! We'll write an even sterner letter this time, that will show them! I call it "the Grassley ploy."
Couldn't help but read that line of Ace's sarcastically. Ooh, it's time to really give them the works! We'll write an even sterner letter this time, that will show them! I call it "the Grassley ploy."
Posted by: Rusty Trawler at August 19, 2022 12:25 PM (1gif2)
Posted by: RI Red at August 19, 2022 12:26 PM (ZVQcg)
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I doubt the "nuke secrets" part the leaked is actually in the affidavit, but they can leak false info freely as misdirection, or justification.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 19, 2022 12:23 PM (Cus5s)
That's the beauty of redactions.
Anything that isn't in the affidavit, but leaked out, can be under the redactions, right?
I mean, we can't just put our nuclear secrets at risk, that's why we had to redact them! They are in there under the black marks, really!
Posted by: illiniwek at August 19, 2022 12:23 PM (Cus5s)
That's the beauty of redactions.
Anything that isn't in the affidavit, but leaked out, can be under the redactions, right?
I mean, we can't just put our nuclear secrets at risk, that's why we had to redact them! They are in there under the black marks, really!
Posted by: blaster at August 19, 2022 12:26 PM (6TxNR)
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More aggressively, Congress could simply pass a Congress Act, reorganizing our legislature in ways that are more fairly representative of where people actually live and vote, and perhaps even reducing the Senate to a mere “council of revision” (a term Jamelle Bouie used to describe the Canadian Senate), without the power to obstruct laws.
In so doing, Congress would be pretty openly defying the Constitution to get to a more democratic order — and for that reason would need to insulate the law from judicial review. Fundamental values like racial equality or environmental justice would be protected not by law that stands apart from politics but — as they typically are — by ordinary expressions of popular will. And the basic structure of government, like whether to elect the president by majority vote or to limit judges to fixed terms, would be decided by present electorate as opposed to one from some foggy past.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 19, 2022 12:21 PM (I2/tG)
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And we could rename the President as the "general secretary," the House as the "Politburo," and the Senate as the "Central Committee," and be done with it.
In so doing, Congress would be pretty openly defying the Constitution to get to a more democratic order — and for that reason would need to insulate the law from judicial review. Fundamental values like racial equality or environmental justice would be protected not by law that stands apart from politics but — as they typically are — by ordinary expressions of popular will. And the basic structure of government, like whether to elect the president by majority vote or to limit judges to fixed terms, would be decided by present electorate as opposed to one from some foggy past.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 19, 2022 12:21 PM (I2/tG)
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And we could rename the President as the "general secretary," the House as the "Politburo," and the Senate as the "Central Committee," and be done with it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 19, 2022 12:26 PM (cE4C5)
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>>I'll bet that the FBI (and the rest of the IC, in some degree of concert) have dossiers on every important person in the country. Cross them, go down.
So, who's going to be the American people's Elliot Ness leading a band of "untouchables" to our rescue? Because, if you're right, it's going to hard to find them.
Posted by: Boswell at August 19, 2022 12:23 PM (+Cgut)
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Putin?
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So, who's going to be the American people's Elliot Ness leading a band of "untouchables" to our rescue? Because, if you're right, it's going to hard to find them.
Posted by: Boswell at August 19, 2022 12:23 PM (+Cgut)
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Putin?
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Posted by: ShainS -- VDH-Endorsed-by-Proxy Connoisseur of Cruelty at August 19, 2022 12:26 PM (WtAgB)
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... In so doing, Congress would be pretty openly defying the Constitution to get to a more democratic order — and for that reason would need to insulate the law from judicial review. Fundamental values like racial equality or environmental justice would be protected not by law that stands apart from politics but — as they typically are — by ordinary expressions of popular will. ...
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 19, 2022 12:21 PM (I2/tG)
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"Here is a roadmap to tyranny. For free!" Common Law is a good system but its fatal flaw is that it is unchecked. "Rights" can change with the winds of the time. The act of unalloyed brilliance that our founders had was the augmentation of common law with a final check (the Constitution). If the winds of the time blow differently, it's damned hard to change that final check. Not impossible, just hard. On purpose. The brilliance of an effective retarder on the whim of the moment is what makes the constitutional common law system so damned good. Of course it must be destroyed by those who know their whims are *correct* dammit!
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 19, 2022 12:21 PM (I2/tG)
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"Here is a roadmap to tyranny. For free!" Common Law is a good system but its fatal flaw is that it is unchecked. "Rights" can change with the winds of the time. The act of unalloyed brilliance that our founders had was the augmentation of common law with a final check (the Constitution). If the winds of the time blow differently, it's damned hard to change that final check. Not impossible, just hard. On purpose. The brilliance of an effective retarder on the whim of the moment is what makes the constitutional common law system so damned good. Of course it must be destroyed by those who know their whims are *correct* dammit!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2022 12:26 PM (WWh8n)
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It might be worth asking whether any FBI personnel contacted any public official to lobby for public relations support and whether anything was said to help motivate these public figures.
That's how the Hoover-era FBI kept control for years - by blackmailing public officials.
JFK came into office intending to replace Hoover - he sent RFK to have lunch with Hoover to inform him that he was going to resign.
I'm sure that a transcript of the lunch would be priceless, as Hoover explained exactly what dirt he had on the Kennedy family.
Hoover wasn't replaced.
That's how the Hoover-era FBI kept control for years - by blackmailing public officials.
JFK came into office intending to replace Hoover - he sent RFK to have lunch with Hoover to inform him that he was going to resign.
I'm sure that a transcript of the lunch would be priceless, as Hoover explained exactly what dirt he had on the Kennedy family.
Hoover wasn't replaced.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 19, 2022 12:26 PM (I2/tG)
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These people honestly must be psychotic. Trump tried to give Pence the world and this is how he repays him.
Not that I ever had many doubts that he was a POS.
Not that I ever had many doubts that he was a POS.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 12:26 PM (pTl+J)
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 19, 2022 12:27 PM (MIKMs)
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The same guys who stood around with their fingers up their asses while kids got murdered in Uvalde? The same guys who couldn't win a war in Afghanistan against a bunch of 7th Century peasants? The same incompetent, cowardly hacks who screwed up literally every armed confrontation of the last 30 years?
Posted by: Elric Blade
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You do realize it was you lawyer-types who came up with RoE during OIF/OEF, right?
Those RoEs will become null and void aganst deplorables.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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You do realize it was you lawyer-types who came up with RoE during OIF/OEF, right?
Those RoEs will become null and void aganst deplorables.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 19, 2022 12:27 PM (U/8Mz)
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>>>The same guys who stood around with their fingers up their asses while kids got murdered in Uvalde?
I believe government law enforcement would gladly shoot conservatives on the streets. The local cops likely wouldn't, but the Gestapo? Absolutely, considering how they believe they are untouchable. No pun intended.
I believe government law enforcement would gladly shoot conservatives on the streets. The local cops likely wouldn't, but the Gestapo? Absolutely, considering how they believe they are untouchable. No pun intended.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 19, 2022 12:27 PM (VWp7G)
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What's truly disheartening is that every part of our federal government is bullshit. FBI, Congress, the administrative state that epitomizes the "banality of evil" as it crushes the losers and promotes the winners...
Why would it be a surprise that the USCP as directed by the Speaker would be complicit in creating the photo op insurgency?
Sad times to be an old american and still remember the old America*
*which may be a made-up bullshit version of reality but still far better than today.
Why would it be a surprise that the USCP as directed by the Speaker would be complicit in creating the photo op insurgency?
Sad times to be an old american and still remember the old America*
*which may be a made-up bullshit version of reality but still far better than today.
Posted by: Buddy at August 19, 2022 12:28 PM (MFphb)
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Have the Capitol Police and FBI been hiding video of the "insurrection" because they know Capitol Police officers permitted "insurrectors" into the Capitol, therefore giving them permission to be there, just as the Colbert Nine supposedly had?
To ask the question is to answer it. If the video supported the insurrection narrative, you wouldn't be able to avoid seeing it.
Video made by people that day that ISN'T in the custody of the Capitol Police shows the Capitol Police opening the doors and inviting people in.
To ask the question is to answer it. If the video supported the insurrection narrative, you wouldn't be able to avoid seeing it.
Video made by people that day that ISN'T in the custody of the Capitol Police shows the Capitol Police opening the doors and inviting people in.
Posted by: blaster at August 19, 2022 12:28 PM (6TxNR)
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They really, sincerely believe Trump was a Russian spy and stole the 2016 election.
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There are plenty of mental cases who believe this. But there also many in the professional classes, who find this lie convenient, useful, rewarding, as well as entertaining. So they play along, and indulge the believers, reinforcing their delusions. Like Al Gore on the hockey stick graph. Lotta money to be made in lies.
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There are plenty of mental cases who believe this. But there also many in the professional classes, who find this lie convenient, useful, rewarding, as well as entertaining. So they play along, and indulge the believers, reinforcing their delusions. Like Al Gore on the hockey stick graph. Lotta money to be made in lies.
Posted by: Screwtape at August 19, 2022 12:28 PM (5kBqk)
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This is an intelligence op designed to recover documents that Trump has that threatens the FBI.
This is not, and never was, a legal action intended to result in Trump's indictment. In fact this has ended up ensuring Trump WON'T be indicted, and they knew that from the start.
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It can't be both?
This is not, and never was, a legal action intended to result in Trump's indictment. In fact this has ended up ensuring Trump WON'T be indicted, and they knew that from the start.
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It can't be both?
Posted by: runner at August 19, 2022 12:29 PM (KszI0)
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"You do realize it was you lawyer-types who came up with RoE during OIF/OEF, right? "
And in the process screwed up almost every op and got good men killed.
Don't forget that part.
And in the process screwed up almost every op and got good men killed.
Don't forget that part.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 19, 2022 12:29 PM (VF4WI)
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6 John Durham's only real job was to pretend to be doing something while he ran out the clock on any possible action being taken.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2022 12:12 PM (trdmm)
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"Come on, man! It sometimes takes three or four decades to put together a grand RICO case. Those I's & T's aren't gonna cross & dot themselves, you know?"
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2022 12:12 PM (trdmm)
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"Come on, man! It sometimes takes three or four decades to put together a grand RICO case. Those I's & T's aren't gonna cross & dot themselves, you know?"
Posted by: ShainS -- VDH-Endorsed-by-Proxy Connoisseur of Cruelty at August 19, 2022 12:29 PM (WtAgB)
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Blaster - The warrant itself is a blight line violation of the 4th amendment. There are numerous SCOTUS decisions that classify the warrant (ignoring the affidavit) as illegal. Everything they seized is inadmissible.
So if they indict Trump, they are going to end up with a show trial that he will win, and make them look like idiots.
It isn't a show of force unless you can make it stick.
So if they indict Trump, they are going to end up with a show trial that he will win, and make them look like idiots.
It isn't a show of force unless you can make it stick.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 19, 2022 12:29 PM (5p7BC)
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Have the Capitol Police and FBI been hiding video of the "insurrection" because they know Capitol Police officers permitted "insurrectors" into the Capitol, therefore giving them permission to be there, just as the Colbert Nine supposedly had?
There's a still of a Capitol Police Lt. wearing a MAGA hat and using a bullhorn that's been circulating today.
There's a still of a Capitol Police Lt. wearing a MAGA hat and using a bullhorn that's been circulating today.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at August 19, 2022 12:29 PM (Bd6X8)
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"Here is a roadmap to tyranny. For free!"
They're insurrectionists, but no one is going to go into their comfy faculty lounges and arrest them.
They are more open about it now - we've seen whining for years about how undemocratic the Senate is, but it would obviously take extra-Constitutional methods to change things, since small states are never going to voluntarily agree to gut the Senate.
They're insurrectionists, but no one is going to go into their comfy faculty lounges and arrest them.
They are more open about it now - we've seen whining for years about how undemocratic the Senate is, but it would obviously take extra-Constitutional methods to change things, since small states are never going to voluntarily agree to gut the Senate.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 19, 2022 12:29 PM (I2/tG)
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I'll bet that the FBI (and the rest of the IC, in some degree of concert) have dossiers on every important person in the country. Cross them, go down. Chuck Schumer more or less admitted it. Did the FBI demand people carry torches for them? Maybe. But then again, they probably didn't need to. The people in charge know the score and will "work towards the fuhrer" with no prompting whatsoever.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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Look up Farley Files way back from when Jim Farley was FDR's political fixer. The common misperception was that Farley files were only compiled on supporters. Hoover's FBI was also involved at an early age assembling informant networks to build dossiers throughout American society way back in the 30's. Wiretapping was also used along with black bag burglaries to plant microphones, etc. of those unpopular with the regime. At the state and local level, politicos used their police forces as armed goons to go after rivals.
This has been going on for a long time.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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Look up Farley Files way back from when Jim Farley was FDR's political fixer. The common misperception was that Farley files were only compiled on supporters. Hoover's FBI was also involved at an early age assembling informant networks to build dossiers throughout American society way back in the 30's. Wiretapping was also used along with black bag burglaries to plant microphones, etc. of those unpopular with the regime. At the state and local level, politicos used their police forces as armed goons to go after rivals.
This has been going on for a long time.
Posted by: whig at August 19, 2022 12:29 PM (CXr4y)
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Sure would like to see the video of John Sullivan, the one that was paid 80k by a news agency, then supposedly had it taken away by the FBI. He was the one that recorded Ashli Babbit getting shot and also had video of him telling his girlfriend "look what we got them to do" while wearing a Trump hat. All we hear about is Raymond Epps. He's small potatoes compared to what they have Sullivan recorded saying and doing.
Posted by: JROD at August 19, 2022 12:29 PM (0jZnq)
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Believe Marcus T,
I never forget.
I never forget.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 19, 2022 12:30 PM (U/8Mz)
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It has to be made clear that the reason we need to see the basis behind all FBI warrants and affidavits is precisely because we are suspicious of their "sources and methods"....
Posted by: SSBN 656(G) at August 19, 2022 12:30 PM (5AVMW)
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They could have held a few of the bad apples accountable in significant ways allowing them to maintain a modicum of confidence among Americans. That they DGAF is not lost on left, right and the middle. Except for the stage IV TDS sufferers.
Posted by: Fool Otto at August 19, 2022 12:31 PM (DB16e)
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Of course the FBI is blackmailing every politician with any kind of reach.
Hell, Hillary Clinton had over 900 FBI files delivered to her so she could also blackmail them.
Hell, Hillary Clinton had over 900 FBI files delivered to her so she could also blackmail them.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 19, 2022 12:31 PM (lTGtQ)
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A Harvard and a Yale law professor wrote an editorial for the New York Times called "The Constitution is Broken and Should Not Be Reclaimed"
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And Harvard and Yale should be seized and turned into day care centers.
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And Harvard and Yale should be seized and turned into day care centers.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 19, 2022 12:31 PM (cE4C5)
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All along we have been screwed by the other side leaking to their favorite reporters to create a narrative which they then use as a basis for their investigations.
It would be nice if it started to happen to them. There are now pretty well known media figures on our side who have been able to move the needle in our direction. I do think Posobiec has been effective because he seems to alwasy have the receipts to back up what he says.
It would be nice if it started to happen to them. There are now pretty well known media figures on our side who have been able to move the needle in our direction. I do think Posobiec has been effective because he seems to alwasy have the receipts to back up what he says.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 19, 2022 12:31 PM (Y+l9t)
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So if they indict Trump, they are going to end up with a show trial that he will win
Hardy har har.
You think we care about the law and about facts?
Hardy har har.
You think we care about the law and about facts?
Posted by: A DC Judge And A DC Jury! at August 19, 2022 12:31 PM (I2/tG)
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Testing
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 19, 2022 12:31 PM (Qhnrt)
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So, who's going to be the American people's Elliot Ness leading a band of "untouchables" to our rescue? Because, if you're right, it's going to hard to find them.
Posted by: Boswell at August 19, 2022 12:23 PM (+Cgut)
Perhaps we can start by acknowledging that no one should be "untouchable".
That may lead to a deep state that is outside of and yet above the law.
Oh wait...
Posted by: Boswell at August 19, 2022 12:23 PM (+Cgut)
Perhaps we can start by acknowledging that no one should be "untouchable".
That may lead to a deep state that is outside of and yet above the law.
Oh wait...
Posted by: Buddy at August 19, 2022 12:32 PM (MFphb)
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Anyone think the "hot sting of public condemnation" is going to stop any of this shit one iota?
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 19, 2022 12:32 PM (H8QX8)
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11 It really is incredible. Not only were they not fired, they were kept on, promoted, and moved to higher level CIA assignments.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 19, 2022 12:14 PM (CxCEK)
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If you're not getting a medal for murdering mothers holding their infants, you're not doing it right.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 19, 2022 12:14 PM (CxCEK)
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If you're not getting a medal for murdering mothers holding their infants, you're not doing it right.
Posted by: Lon Horiuchi, FBI Hero Assassin & Rock Star at August 19, 2022 12:32 PM (WtAgB)
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62 This is not, and never was, a legal action intended to result in Trump's indictment. In fact this has ended up ensuring Trump WON'T be indicted, and they knew that from the start.
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that's why the crossfire hurricane unit chose this particular judge guy thing. eh?
this was an op to get trump's trove of HRC and fbi info.
there's, as we discussed yesterday, no criminal element to any of this.
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that's why the crossfire hurricane unit chose this particular judge guy thing. eh?
this was an op to get trump's trove of HRC and fbi info.
there's, as we discussed yesterday, no criminal element to any of this.
Posted by: sockamster, doctor of love at August 19, 2022 12:32 PM (OuH7W)
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The wife was telling me that Peter Strzok is suspected of being CIA, working undercover as FBI. A way to work around them not being allowed to operiate on US soil. Bastages!
Posted by: Paladin at August 19, 2022 12:33 PM (Qb66T)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at August 19, 2022 12:33 PM (Bd6X8)
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And Harvard and Yale should be seized and turned into day care centers.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 19, 2022 12:31 PM
Like they aren't already?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 19, 2022 12:31 PM
Like they aren't already?
Posted by: David Hogg, soon-to-be-Harvard-graduate at August 19, 2022 12:33 PM (a3Q+t)
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Coming soon to the good 'ol US of A:
A Canadian armed forces veteran with a brain injury and post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) was offered medically-assisted suicide by a Veterans Affairs Canada employee while seeking treatment.
https://tinyurl.com/34j78tkr
A Canadian armed forces veteran with a brain injury and post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) was offered medically-assisted suicide by a Veterans Affairs Canada employee while seeking treatment.
https://tinyurl.com/34j78tkr
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 19, 2022 12:33 PM (hOlji)
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108 that's why the crossfire hurricane unit chose this particular judge guy thing. eh?
this was an op to get trump's trove of HRC and fbi info.
there's, as we discussed yesterday, no criminal element to any of this.
Posted by: sockamster, doctor of love at August 19, 2022 12:32 PM (OuH7W)
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Well, there's certainly a criminal element to some of it.
this was an op to get trump's trove of HRC and fbi info.
there's, as we discussed yesterday, no criminal element to any of this.
Posted by: sockamster, doctor of love at August 19, 2022 12:32 PM (OuH7W)
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Well, there's certainly a criminal element to some of it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 19, 2022 12:33 PM (LvTSG)
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You think we care about the law and about facts?
Posted by: A DC Judge And A DC Jury!
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Trial will be in South Florida and under jurisdiction of the 11th Circuit.
Posted by: A DC Judge And A DC Jury!
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Trial will be in South Florida and under jurisdiction of the 11th Circuit.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 19, 2022 12:33 PM (5p7BC)
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The oath keepers entered through a door which could only be opened with a key card.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 19, 2022 12:33 PM (hwoGt)
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People who are lawless don't care about the law. What have you seen in a Washington DC court that makes you believe this will proceed logically or constitutionally? The law enforcement is corrupt, the judges are corrupt, the prosecutors are corrupt and the juries are partial political partisans.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 19, 2022 12:33 PM (VF4WI)
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If you're not getting a medal for murdering mothers holding their infants, you're not doing it right.
Posted by: Lon Horiuchi, FBI Hero Assassin & Rock Star at August 19, 2022 12:32 PM (WtAgB)
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Step off, bitch!
Posted by: Lon Horiuchi, FBI Hero Assassin & Rock Star at August 19, 2022 12:32 PM (WtAgB)
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Step off, bitch!
Posted by: Michael Byrd, USCP Hero Assassin & Rock Star at August 19, 2022 12:33 PM (WtAgB)
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111 And Harvard and Yale should be seized and turned into day care centers.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 19, 2022 12:31 PM
Like they aren't already?
Posted by: David Hogg, soon-to-be-Harvard-graduate at August 19, 2022 12:33 PM (a3Q+t)
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One difference: Day care centers don't give out diplomas.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 19, 2022 12:31 PM
Like they aren't already?
Posted by: David Hogg, soon-to-be-Harvard-graduate at August 19, 2022 12:33 PM (a3Q+t)
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One difference: Day care centers don't give out diplomas.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 19, 2022 12:34 PM (LvTSG)
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The wife was telling me that Peter Strzok is suspected of being CIA, working undercover as FBI. A way to work around them not being allowed to operiate on US soil. Bastages!
Posted by: Paladin at August 19, 2022 12:33 PM (Qb66T)
"Suspected"? I believe he got a Service Medal from the CIA a while back...
Posted by: Paladin at August 19, 2022 12:33 PM (Qb66T)
"Suspected"? I believe he got a Service Medal from the CIA a while back...
Posted by: SSBN 656(G) at August 19, 2022 12:34 PM (5AVMW)
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Pennsylvania Democratic congresswoman Chrissy Houlahan has attributed her past electoral success to her focus on "civility" and "unity." Now, she says the Republican Party is "diseased" and must be "cleansed."
Houlahan's comments came during a May 27 appearance on the Daily Beast‘s The New Abnormal podcast, which saw the congresswoman disparage Republicans as deplorable and anti-democratic.
"This is, in my opinion, a diseased Republican Party. And it needs to be cured and cleansed," Houlahan said. "So the stakes of having a Republican, as an example, in my seat are more than just policy differences. They are democracy, in my opinion."
Houlahan's rhetoric is a far cry from 2020, when the Democrat credited her political success to her message of "civility," "decency," "unity," and "empathy." "People ask me constantly how I flipped a seat in a competitive district. One of the reasons is that I made civility and decency a core of my campaign," Houlahan said at the time. "Pennsylvanians want unity. They want leaders who rise above the fray and lead with kindness and empathy towards all Americans."
Houlahan's comments came during a May 27 appearance on the Daily Beast‘s The New Abnormal podcast, which saw the congresswoman disparage Republicans as deplorable and anti-democratic.
"This is, in my opinion, a diseased Republican Party. And it needs to be cured and cleansed," Houlahan said. "So the stakes of having a Republican, as an example, in my seat are more than just policy differences. They are democracy, in my opinion."
Houlahan's rhetoric is a far cry from 2020, when the Democrat credited her political success to her message of "civility," "decency," "unity," and "empathy." "People ask me constantly how I flipped a seat in a competitive district. One of the reasons is that I made civility and decency a core of my campaign," Houlahan said at the time. "Pennsylvanians want unity. They want leaders who rise above the fray and lead with kindness and empathy towards all Americans."
Posted by: SMOD at August 19, 2022 12:34 PM (RHGPo)
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The brazen raid of President Trump’s home in Florida, Mar-a-Lago, likely has its roots in the Russia collusion story with a particular focus on Peter Strzok and his affiliation with the CIA.
https://tinyurl.com/2r2en423
https://tinyurl.com/2r2en423
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 19, 2022 12:35 PM (hOlji)
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Anyone think the "hot sting of public condemnation" is going to stop any of this shit one iota?
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 19, 2022 12:32 PM
The what?
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 19, 2022 12:32 PM
The what?
Posted by: The Kardashians & Real Housewives Demographic at August 19, 2022 12:35 PM (a3Q+t)
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"John Durham's only real job was to pretend to be doing something while he ran out the clock on any possible action being taken."
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2022 12:12 PM (trdmm)
I don't even care about the issue of Durham actually holding anyone accountable anymore. The bottom line is, he should be punished himself for millions of dollars he's wasted by him and his team taking this long in the first place. When he does finish, we're all going to see whatever he did with the resources he had, it could have been done in couple months at most. I can't believe his whole team combined did more than 4 hours of actual work a week.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2022 12:12 PM (trdmm)
I don't even care about the issue of Durham actually holding anyone accountable anymore. The bottom line is, he should be punished himself for millions of dollars he's wasted by him and his team taking this long in the first place. When he does finish, we're all going to see whatever he did with the resources he had, it could have been done in couple months at most. I can't believe his whole team combined did more than 4 hours of actual work a week.
Posted by: lowandslow at August 19, 2022 12:35 PM (qH6FZ)
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If they can get The Raid venue transferred to Washington they can nail him there.
They can argue the documents were taken from the White House so the case lies there. Then they'll get Judge Sullivan to hear it.
Or maybe... they'll transfer Judge Sullivan to the 11th circuit.
They can argue the documents were taken from the White House so the case lies there. Then they'll get Judge Sullivan to hear it.
Or maybe... they'll transfer Judge Sullivan to the 11th circuit.
Posted by: torabora at August 19, 2022 12:35 PM (3qoBw)
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I'm beginning to wonder whether we should just say "fuck it" and mobilize our armies to meet in the streets. No holds barred. May the best side win.
Am I crazy?
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 12:16 PM (iFTx/)
Ask yourself again after a couple cups of coffee.
The answer may become clearer.
Am I crazy?
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 12:16 PM (iFTx/)
Ask yourself again after a couple cups of coffee.
The answer may become clearer.
Posted by: Buddy at August 19, 2022 12:35 PM (MFphb)
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"Trial will be in South Florida and under jurisdiction of the 11th Circuit."
Really? Where will the grand jury be empaneled? I doubt in Florida.
Really? Where will the grand jury be empaneled? I doubt in Florida.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 19, 2022 12:35 PM (VF4WI)
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78 More aggressively, Congress could simply pass a Congress Act, reorganizing our legislature in ways that are more fairly representative of where people actually live and vote, and perhaps even reducing the Senate to a mere “council of revision” (a term Jamelle Bouie used to describe the Canadian Senate), without the power to obstruct laws.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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These are fundamentally stupid people that believe that they are elite intellectuals. This is the same as wishcasting.
Essentially though our government will retain the same form but real governance does not resemble what is in the books. Bagehot in his book on the British Constitution notes that the unwritten constitution of Britain exists but essentially the form of it has little to inform the reader of where the focus of political decision making is. In Bagehot's time, it was the Cabinet. Nowadays, writing it, Bagehot would focus only on the Prime Minister.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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These are fundamentally stupid people that believe that they are elite intellectuals. This is the same as wishcasting.
Essentially though our government will retain the same form but real governance does not resemble what is in the books. Bagehot in his book on the British Constitution notes that the unwritten constitution of Britain exists but essentially the form of it has little to inform the reader of where the focus of political decision making is. In Bagehot's time, it was the Cabinet. Nowadays, writing it, Bagehot would focus only on the Prime Minister.
Posted by: whig at August 19, 2022 12:36 PM (CXr4y)
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They really, sincerely believe Trump was a Russian spy and stole the 2016 election.
Posted by: MJ at August 19, 2022 12:24 PM (zwDuR)
Who does? No one does.
Posted by: MJ at August 19, 2022 12:24 PM (zwDuR)
Who does? No one does.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 12:36 PM (pTl+J)
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 19, 2022 12:36 PM (yHsuS)
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Anyone think the "hot sting of public condemnation" is going to stop any of this shit one iota?
Posted by: Ordinary American
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Nope.
Posted by: Ordinary American
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Nope.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 19, 2022 12:36 PM (hOlji)
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JFK came into office intending to replace Hoover - he sent RFK to have lunch with Hoover to inform him that he was going to resign.
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Whatever happened to JFK?
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Whatever happened to JFK?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 19, 2022 12:36 PM (CxCEK)
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I was partying like a rock start last night, and am I little hung over so maybe I'm not thinking 100% straight.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 12:16 PM (iFTx/)
It takes great practice to do that. lol
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 12:16 PM (iFTx/)
It takes great practice to do that. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 19, 2022 12:36 PM (VwHCD)
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Hang 'em high.
Posted by: sidney at August 19, 2022 12:36 PM (Uy/WF)
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Wray has walled off the former Russiagate investigators only from participating in FISA wiretap applications, according to the sources.
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wray and rosie destroyed the trump legacy. got to hand the GopE that. Whoever vouched for them.
if it was me and it was clear that the fed devils were trying to op you, I'd have a wartime consiglieri in place in doj and fbi and clear house. But no...
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wray and rosie destroyed the trump legacy. got to hand the GopE that. Whoever vouched for them.
if it was me and it was clear that the fed devils were trying to op you, I'd have a wartime consiglieri in place in doj and fbi and clear house. But no...
Posted by: sockamster, doctor of love at August 19, 2022 12:36 PM (OuH7W)
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Am I crazy?
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 12:16 PM (iFTx/)
Not crazy, but it isn't colander time until most people literally go hungry for a while.
The smaht set in DC, NY etc don't know they've turned the most optimistic people into the most jaded in just a few years. As that thread said, people who give their kids pocket-sized laminated constitutions have been watching and expecting something to correct the course.
I expect the majority of governor candidates will be running on protecting their residents from fed over-reach. This will bewilder smaht people for quite a long time ... they are good at casting blame.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 12:16 PM (iFTx/)
Not crazy, but it isn't colander time until most people literally go hungry for a while.
The smaht set in DC, NY etc don't know they've turned the most optimistic people into the most jaded in just a few years. As that thread said, people who give their kids pocket-sized laminated constitutions have been watching and expecting something to correct the course.
I expect the majority of governor candidates will be running on protecting their residents from fed over-reach. This will bewilder smaht people for quite a long time ... they are good at casting blame.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 19, 2022 12:36 PM (44ww/)
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@116 Marcus T-C'mon are you really going to ask this question thats been asked a dozen times here? You know it will not be answered even if you ask them directly. Just trying to save you the energy.
Posted by: JROD at August 19, 2022 12:36 PM (0jZnq)
Posted by: Just Lily at August 19, 2022 12:36 PM (RLLZj)
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"Have the Capitol Police and FBI been hiding video of the "insurrection" because they know Capitol Police officers permitted "insurrectors" into the Capitol, therefore giving them permission to be there, just as the Colbert Nine supposedly had?"
How many Republicans expected to be in leadership and chairs of key committees have declared they will release all of the Capitol inside and outside video when the Republicans take-over the House and hopefully the Senate, in 4.5 months?
Bueller? Bueller?
How many Republicans expected to be in leadership and chairs of key committees have declared they will release all of the Capitol inside and outside video when the Republicans take-over the House and hopefully the Senate, in 4.5 months?
Bueller? Bueller?
Posted by: Gref at August 19, 2022 12:37 PM (AMIL/)
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So much typing. So much deleting.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 19, 2022 12:37 PM (dNqv+)
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90 "You do realize it was you lawyer-types who came up with RoE during OIF/OEF, right? "
And in the process screwed up almost every op and got good men killed.
Don't forget that part.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 19, 2022 12:29 PM (VF4WI)
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You think it was LAWYERS who lost all these wars and got men killed?? If you want to blame the plans or RoE, then fine. I won’t disagree that they were garbage. But it was the military that authorized and approved that garbage. That's all on them.
And in the process screwed up almost every op and got good men killed.
Don't forget that part.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 19, 2022 12:29 PM (VF4WI)
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You think it was LAWYERS who lost all these wars and got men killed?? If you want to blame the plans or RoE, then fine. I won’t disagree that they were garbage. But it was the military that authorized and approved that garbage. That's all on them.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 12:37 PM (iFTx/)
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131 Whatever happened to JFK?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 19, 2022 12:36 PM (CxCEK)
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He and Marylin Monroe faked their deaths and lived the rest of their lives in happy monogamy in Goa, India.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 19, 2022 12:36 PM (CxCEK)
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He and Marylin Monroe faked their deaths and lived the rest of their lives in happy monogamy in Goa, India.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 19, 2022 12:37 PM (LvTSG)
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106 Anyone think the "hot sting of public condemnation" is going to stop any of this shit one iota?
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 19, 2022 12:32 PM (H8QX
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Maybe if we put it in the form of a strongly-worded tweet?
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 19, 2022 12:32 PM (H8QX
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Maybe if we put it in the form of a strongly-worded tweet?
Posted by: Michael Byrd, USCP Hero Assassin & Rock Star at August 19, 2022 12:37 PM (WtAgB)
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The wife was telling me that Peter Strzok is suspected of being CIA, working undercover as FBI.
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Yeah, it's awkward when you sign your official documents for the FBI "Section Chief," which doesn't exist in the FBI but does in the CIA.
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Yeah, it's awkward when you sign your official documents for the FBI "Section Chief," which doesn't exist in the FBI but does in the CIA.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 19, 2022 12:37 PM (CxCEK)
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Really? Where will the grand jury be empaneled? I doubt in Florida.
There's already an empaneled grand jury in DC looking at this.
Rest assured that the criminal charges against Trump will be brought in DC, not Florida.
There's already an empaneled grand jury in DC looking at this.
Rest assured that the criminal charges against Trump will be brought in DC, not Florida.
Posted by: A DC Judge And A DC Jury! at August 19, 2022 12:37 PM (I2/tG)
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They really, sincerely believe Trump was a Russian spy and stole the 2016 election.
Posted by: MJ at August 19, 2022 12:24 PM (zwDuR)
That is just an outright lie. NONE of them believe that.
Posted by: MJ at August 19, 2022 12:24 PM (zwDuR)
That is just an outright lie. NONE of them believe that.
Posted by: SSBN 656(G) at August 19, 2022 12:37 PM (5AVMW)
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Really? Where will the grand jury be empaneled? I doubt in Florida.
Posted by: Marcus T
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6th Amendment requires a trial in the district and state where the crime is alleged to have been committed. For the documents, Trump had ultimate authority of them and arrived before Biden could take office. Therefore, any trial based on those documents would have to be based in SD of Florida and ditto for the Grand Jury. Jan. 6th events on the other hand would be based in DC presumably.
Posted by: Marcus T
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6th Amendment requires a trial in the district and state where the crime is alleged to have been committed. For the documents, Trump had ultimate authority of them and arrived before Biden could take office. Therefore, any trial based on those documents would have to be based in SD of Florida and ditto for the Grand Jury. Jan. 6th events on the other hand would be based in DC presumably.
Posted by: whig at August 19, 2022 12:38 PM (CXr4y)
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So if they indict Trump, they are going to end up with a show trial that he will win,
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 19, 2022 12:29 PM (5p7BC)
When? In March of 2025?
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 19, 2022 12:29 PM (5p7BC)
When? In March of 2025?
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 12:38 PM (pTl+J)
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There's already an empaneled grand jury in DC looking at this.
Rest assured that the criminal charges against Trump will be brought in DC, not Florida.
Posted by: A DC Judge And A DC Jury!
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look up vicinage and the 6th Amendment.
Rest assured that the criminal charges against Trump will be brought in DC, not Florida.
Posted by: A DC Judge And A DC Jury!
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look up vicinage and the 6th Amendment.
Posted by: whig at August 19, 2022 12:38 PM (CXr4y)
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92 Blaster - The warrant itself is a blight line violation of the 4th amendment. There are numerous SCOTUS decisions that classify the warrant (ignoring the affidavit) as illegal. Everything they seized is inadmissible.
If the line is so bright, how come everyone is saying it's just fine? Not just people, people in effing charge. Even the "opposition" is saying its okay.
Yeah, I know, WE aren't saying its okay. But who, exactly, is listening to us? The media? The courts?
A conviction isn't necessary. All they need is the indictment. They can get an indictment in DC district. I wouldn't doubt they can get a conviction, too.
The Feds, under Obama, indicted my Republican governor. And convicted him. He later got that overturned at SCOTUS. SCOTUS ruled what he was convicted of wasn't even a crime. Did this cause the DoJ to question the wisdom of what they are doing?
If the line is so bright, how come everyone is saying it's just fine? Not just people, people in effing charge. Even the "opposition" is saying its okay.
Yeah, I know, WE aren't saying its okay. But who, exactly, is listening to us? The media? The courts?
A conviction isn't necessary. All they need is the indictment. They can get an indictment in DC district. I wouldn't doubt they can get a conviction, too.
The Feds, under Obama, indicted my Republican governor. And convicted him. He later got that overturned at SCOTUS. SCOTUS ruled what he was convicted of wasn't even a crime. Did this cause the DoJ to question the wisdom of what they are doing?
Posted by: blaster at August 19, 2022 12:38 PM (6TxNR)
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Those RoEs will become null and void aganst deplorables.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 19, 2022 12:27 PM (U/8Mz)
This works both ways.
Those RoEs will become null and void aganst deplorables.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 19, 2022 12:27 PM (U/8Mz)
This works both ways.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 19, 2022 12:39 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 19, 2022 12:39 PM (ufFY8)
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So MSNBC is now claiming that CWII is now here because of the extreme violent rhetoric by one segment of the population, the propaganda of one network, and the actions of two people against the FBI.
Well...alrighty then!!!
Well...alrighty then!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2022 12:40 PM (vT4Co)
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What, and when was Trump going to use the supposed info he had ?
Makes me wonder if he did have damning evidence against the FIB, why has he not put it out there
Discuss ?
Makes me wonder if he did have damning evidence against the FIB, why has he not put it out there
Discuss ?
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 19, 2022 12:40 PM (M+Lyo)
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Federal Beelzibub Imps
Posted by: Eromero at August 19, 2022 12:40 PM (gktX6)
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I saw Hot Sting open for Public Condemnation at MSG in the 90s
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 12:40 PM (iFTx/)
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And a D.C. judge I believe basically dismissed the charges and every wrongdoer got a slap on the wrist.
Which of course makes it pretty much impossible to convince anyone Durham does have evidence on to provide evidence against others.
If they’re not inclined to provide evidence, there is no pressure to do so; if they are inclined to provide evidence, they know that whoever they implicate will be free to retaliate.
Which is of course part of the purpose of dismissing charges or treating them so leniently it doesn’t matter.
Which of course makes it pretty much impossible to convince anyone Durham does have evidence on to provide evidence against others.
If they’re not inclined to provide evidence, there is no pressure to do so; if they are inclined to provide evidence, they know that whoever they implicate will be free to retaliate.
Which is of course part of the purpose of dismissing charges or treating them so leniently it doesn’t matter.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 19, 2022 12:40 PM (U+Oxn)
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Stronk girls! Really messed up: Video shows NYC cabbie – a father of 4 – getting beat to death in broad daylight
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Two arrested, including a 15 year old girl, and, despite criminal histories, they're back on the street.
https://bit.ly/3Tdxrz4
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Two arrested, including a 15 year old girl, and, despite criminal histories, they're back on the street.
https://bit.ly/3Tdxrz4
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 19, 2022 12:41 PM (FVME7)
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I thought John Durham died... because this has gone nowhere.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 19, 2022 12:41 PM (NpAcC)
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Whatever happened to JFK?
Before Trump, I would have cautiously stuck to the view that Oswald was a lone gunman. After Trump, I now firmly believe that Oswald, if not a patsy, was set up by the CIA to take out JFK because they were afraid he was going to upend their applecart.
If that puts me in Oliver Stone-land, so be it. I don't give the government the benefit of the doubt anymore.
Before Trump, I would have cautiously stuck to the view that Oswald was a lone gunman. After Trump, I now firmly believe that Oswald, if not a patsy, was set up by the CIA to take out JFK because they were afraid he was going to upend their applecart.
If that puts me in Oliver Stone-land, so be it. I don't give the government the benefit of the doubt anymore.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 19, 2022 12:41 PM (AW0uW)
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You think it was LAWYERS who lost all these wars and got men killed?? If you want to blame the plans or RoE, then fine. I won’t disagree that they were garbage. But it was the military that authorized and approved that garbage. That's all on them.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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lawyers, politicians, same diff.
And considering they're what makes up the five-sided nuthouse, not surprising wars are not won anymore.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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lawyers, politicians, same diff.
And considering they're what makes up the five-sided nuthouse, not surprising wars are not won anymore.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 19, 2022 12:41 PM (hOlji)
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Sure as hell ain't warriors.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 19, 2022 12:41 PM (hOlji)
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I see the Ukes are shelling the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant.
Z-man says anything that happens is Russia's fault since they are occupying it.
Which leads me to assume the plan is to crack it open and then blame the Russians when it kills a bunch of Ukes.
Who knew the Ukes were better Palis then the Palis?
Z-man says anything that happens is Russia's fault since they are occupying it.
Which leads me to assume the plan is to crack it open and then blame the Russians when it kills a bunch of Ukes.
Who knew the Ukes were better Palis then the Palis?
Posted by: 18-1 at August 19, 2022 12:42 PM (ESjRY)
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50 I'm beginning to wonder whether we should just say "fuck it" and mobilize our armies to meet in the streets. No holds barred. May the best side win.
Am I crazy?
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 12:16 PM (iFTx/)
Er, perhaps "delusional" is a more apt term. For one thing, what "armies" do conservatives have? If you answer "millions of completely unorganized gun owners spread out over fifty states," that begs about twenty questions. The big one is, how do you organize these folks without 30 EffBeeEye dudes in Kevlar vests busting down your door in the middle of the night?
The left used to fantasize about this too, it's why they tried (and failed) to organize mass revolutions in post-World War I America. Same with radical groups like the Weathermen in the '60s-'70s. After a bunch got tossed in jail for their trouble, they came to realize there are no short cuts, and resolved to take the hard slog called "the long march" through the institutions, slowly and methodically taking over our establishments one by one. Their successes today are the result of their patience and hard work. If only the right could show the same patience and fortitude.
Am I crazy?
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 12:16 PM (iFTx/)
Er, perhaps "delusional" is a more apt term. For one thing, what "armies" do conservatives have? If you answer "millions of completely unorganized gun owners spread out over fifty states," that begs about twenty questions. The big one is, how do you organize these folks without 30 EffBeeEye dudes in Kevlar vests busting down your door in the middle of the night?
The left used to fantasize about this too, it's why they tried (and failed) to organize mass revolutions in post-World War I America. Same with radical groups like the Weathermen in the '60s-'70s. After a bunch got tossed in jail for their trouble, they came to realize there are no short cuts, and resolved to take the hard slog called "the long march" through the institutions, slowly and methodically taking over our establishments one by one. Their successes today are the result of their patience and hard work. If only the right could show the same patience and fortitude.
Posted by: Rusty Trawler at August 19, 2022 12:42 PM (1gif2)
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It has been 2 years -2 years- since we were fretting over Durham indicting before or after Labor day.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
All anyone had to do on that score was listen to me. I was right about cocksucker Barr too.
This is where all the meaning in my life comes from.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
All anyone had to do on that score was listen to me. I was right about cocksucker Barr too.
This is where all the meaning in my life comes from.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 12:42 PM (pTl+J)
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Please, folks, when observing Tater's departure from CNN, consider the advice of one of the IKEA branches in Germany:
“We deliberately avoid fries. During processing and preparation, a portion of French fries causes more than four times as much CO2 as a portion of boiled potatoes.”
“By eating consciously, everyone can contribute to the reduction of greenhouse gases.”
“We deliberately avoid fries. During processing and preparation, a portion of French fries causes more than four times as much CO2 as a portion of boiled potatoes.”
“By eating consciously, everyone can contribute to the reduction of greenhouse gases.”
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 19, 2022 12:42 PM (a3Q+t)
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@146 whig-you don't think they're going to say the crime was committed in D.C.? If you were them, isn't that what you would do?
Posted by: JROD at August 19, 2022 12:42 PM (0jZnq)
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Mike Penice denounces the video of Capital Police Tarik Kahlid Johnson and calls for the videographer to be imprisoned.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 19, 2022 12:42 PM (u4CEu)
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Not crazy, but it isn't colander time until most people literally go hungry for a while.
I expect the majority of governor candidates will be running on protecting their residents from fed over-reach. This will bewilder smaht people for quite a long time ... they are good at casting blame.
Posted by: BourbonChicken
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Historically, most revolts occur BEFORE starving occurs simply because people can anticipate events. In China, they occurred regularly when the taxation rate exceeded 50 percent of a peasant's income (usually paid in rice). The peasants revolted before starving because of the intolerable loss from the tax rates.
A revolt here might occur before if the ptb are stupid enough to eliminate fertilizers because farmers and then the people can anticipate starving from it. Bloomberg and his ilk though believe that anyone can farm (see his idiotic comment on the matter).
I expect the majority of governor candidates will be running on protecting their residents from fed over-reach. This will bewilder smaht people for quite a long time ... they are good at casting blame.
Posted by: BourbonChicken
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Historically, most revolts occur BEFORE starving occurs simply because people can anticipate events. In China, they occurred regularly when the taxation rate exceeded 50 percent of a peasant's income (usually paid in rice). The peasants revolted before starving because of the intolerable loss from the tax rates.
A revolt here might occur before if the ptb are stupid enough to eliminate fertilizers because farmers and then the people can anticipate starving from it. Bloomberg and his ilk though believe that anyone can farm (see his idiotic comment on the matter).
Posted by: whig at August 19, 2022 12:42 PM (CXr4y)
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Am I the only one that laughed out loud at the idea that the "hot sting of public condemnation" is going to do jack shit to change the FBI's behavior?
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 12:42 PM (iFTx/)
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FBI - Federal Bagmen Incorporated
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2022 12:43 PM (og9zY)
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at August 19, 2022 12:43 PM (OgrpQ)
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FBI: we're a clean as snow... yeah, yellow snow.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 19, 2022 12:14 PM (YrqGW)
Who doesn't love a snow day in Manhattan?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 19, 2022 12:14 PM (YrqGW)
Who doesn't love a snow day in Manhattan?
Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2022 12:43 PM (xhaym)
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Whatever the media says about what happened (or couldn't have happened) to JFK, believe the opposite. That will get you most of the way there.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 12:43 PM (pTl+J)
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>>>Pennsylvania Democratic congresswoman Chrissy Houlahan has attributed her past electoral success to her focus on "civility" and "unity." Now, she says the Republican Party is "diseased" and must be "cleansed."
Houlahan's comments came during a May 27 appearance on the Daily Beast‘s The New Abnormal podcast, which saw the congresswoman disparage Republicans as deplorable and anti-democratic.
"This is, in my opinion, a diseased Republican Party. And it needs to be cured and cleansed," Houlahan said. "So the stakes of having a Republican, as an example, in my seat are more than just policy differences. They are democracy, in my opinion."
Houlahan is one of the most disgusting Democratic Karens in PA. She only got elected because she ran in the suburbs of Philadelphia, which are mostly very left. She never respected the GOP. Ever. But sure Daily Beast, keep lying.
Houlahan's comments came during a May 27 appearance on the Daily Beast‘s The New Abnormal podcast, which saw the congresswoman disparage Republicans as deplorable and anti-democratic.
"This is, in my opinion, a diseased Republican Party. And it needs to be cured and cleansed," Houlahan said. "So the stakes of having a Republican, as an example, in my seat are more than just policy differences. They are democracy, in my opinion."
Houlahan is one of the most disgusting Democratic Karens in PA. She only got elected because she ran in the suburbs of Philadelphia, which are mostly very left. She never respected the GOP. Ever. But sure Daily Beast, keep lying.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 19, 2022 12:44 PM (bkUtD)
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The FBI must feel the hot sting of public condemnation or the abuses will continue to escalate.
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Fatal misapprehension of the situation. Public opinion means nothing. The government is long, long past that being any factor at all. Until that opinion is "none of us are going to work, or growing your cities' food, or driving it to you, or mining your coal, or pumping your water, or anything at all, until you pigs leave power and never return," the abuses will escalate ad infinitum.
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Fatal misapprehension of the situation. Public opinion means nothing. The government is long, long past that being any factor at all. Until that opinion is "none of us are going to work, or growing your cities' food, or driving it to you, or mining your coal, or pumping your water, or anything at all, until you pigs leave power and never return," the abuses will escalate ad infinitum.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 19, 2022 12:44 PM (IXpV7)
Posted by: 18-1 at August 19, 2022 12:44 PM (ESjRY)
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Until that opinion is "none of us are going to work, or growing your cities' food, or driving it to you, or mining your coal, or pumping your water, or anything at all, until you pigs leave power and never return," the abuses will escalate ad infinitum.
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Yep.
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Yep.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 19, 2022 12:45 PM (hOlji)
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Speaking of the Ukranians....How come the so clled President can just choose to send copious amounts of money and weapons there without any kind of Congressional permission. I thought only the House can start money flowing. Does he have some kind of emergency authority to do this?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 19, 2022 12:45 PM (Y+l9t)
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PSA - MidwayUSA has Remington Small Pistol Primers #5-1/2, Federal Small Rifle Primers #205, and CCI Percussion Caps #11.
I also scored some Starline 6.5 Grendel brass yesterday. They periodically put it on backorder when they are planning a production run, so you can score some or other calibers, when they allow you to backorder. Typically arrives within a few weeks.
I also scored some Starline 6.5 Grendel brass yesterday. They periodically put it on backorder when they are planning a production run, so you can score some or other calibers, when they allow you to backorder. Typically arrives within a few weeks.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 19, 2022 12:45 PM (yHsuS)
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I like how Democrats slowly introduce words into the light of the Overton Window.
Now we have "cleansed". That's a healthy word. Great "rhetoric".
Now we have "cleansed". That's a healthy word. Great "rhetoric".
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 12:45 PM (pTl+J)
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And Harvard and Yale should be seized and turned into day care centers.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 19, 2022 12:31 PM (cE4C5)
I think that describes their current status.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 19, 2022 12:31 PM (cE4C5)
I think that describes their current status.
Posted by: 7man at August 19, 2022 12:46 PM (qwO6y)
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166 @146 whig-you don't think they're going to say the crime was committed in D.C.? If you were them, isn't that what you would do?
Posted by: JROD
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If the DOJ is going after DJT regarding Jan 6th, it would work. If they are going after him because of records, it won't work. The records were transferred before DJT left office and due to court precedents from DC judges themselves carved out for Clinton and Obama, he retains full ownership and classification abilities until he left office. Trump left DC along with the documents before FJB became junta leader and arrived at Florida before that happened.
This was a fishing expedition to support other charges and the whole records thing was a pretext to search and seize inconvenient documents to the Feebs. It apparently failed.
Posted by: JROD
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If the DOJ is going after DJT regarding Jan 6th, it would work. If they are going after him because of records, it won't work. The records were transferred before DJT left office and due to court precedents from DC judges themselves carved out for Clinton and Obama, he retains full ownership and classification abilities until he left office. Trump left DC along with the documents before FJB became junta leader and arrived at Florida before that happened.
This was a fishing expedition to support other charges and the whole records thing was a pretext to search and seize inconvenient documents to the Feebs. It apparently failed.
Posted by: whig at August 19, 2022 12:46 PM (CXr4y)
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>>>How come the so clled President can just choose to send copious amounts of money and weapons there without any kind of Congressional permission. I thought only the House can start money flowing. Does he have some kind of emergency authority to do this?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)
Who's going to stop him? The GOP? It's a lawless administration and no one is challenging them.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)
Who's going to stop him? The GOP? It's a lawless administration and no one is challenging them.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 19, 2022 12:46 PM (bkUtD)
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sharon,
If this was a nation of laws, yeah.
But this is a post-law, post-rule land now.
Anything goes.
If this was a nation of laws, yeah.
But this is a post-law, post-rule land now.
Anything goes.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 19, 2022 12:46 PM (NhLwH)
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Not crazy, but it isn't colander time until most people literally go hungry for a while.
The latest I am getting from the lefty LIVs in my general circle is there is no Biden-flation. It is the evil shipping conglomerate keeping their goods off shore because uh...they want to be evil and lose money.
I suspect even when forced to go hungry these idiots will blame the evil farmers deciding not to ship their food to market because uh...they want to be evil.
On the plus side they will finally learn their food doesn't come from Whole Foods ultimately.
The latest I am getting from the lefty LIVs in my general circle is there is no Biden-flation. It is the evil shipping conglomerate keeping their goods off shore because uh...they want to be evil and lose money.
I suspect even when forced to go hungry these idiots will blame the evil farmers deciding not to ship their food to market because uh...they want to be evil.
On the plus side they will finally learn their food doesn't come from Whole Foods ultimately.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 19, 2022 12:47 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 19, 2022 12:47 PM (bkUtD)
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152 So MSNBC is now claiming that CWII is now here because of the extreme violent rhetoric by one segment of the population, the propaganda of one network, and the actions of two people against the FBI.
Well...alrighty then!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2022 12:40 PM (vT4Co)
Lizard Cheney said the same thing basically. I guess this is the new narrative.
Well...alrighty then!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2022 12:40 PM (vT4Co)
Lizard Cheney said the same thing basically. I guess this is the new narrative.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at August 19, 2022 12:47 PM (sI15f)
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175 The FBI must feel the hot sting of public condemnation or the abuses will continue to escalate.
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Fatal misapprehension of the situation. Public opinion means nothing. The government is long, long past that being any factor at all. Until that opinion is "none of us are going to work, or growing your cities' food, or driving it to you, or mining your coal, or pumping your water, or anything at all, until you pigs leave power and never return," the abuses will escalate ad infinitum.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 19, 2022 12:44 PM (IXpV7)
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I agree but then that means the abuses will escalate ad infinitum. Hence my "am I crazy" comment above. Judging from the comments to my comment, the consensus seems to be I might not be all that crazy. Just premature.
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Fatal misapprehension of the situation. Public opinion means nothing. The government is long, long past that being any factor at all. Until that opinion is "none of us are going to work, or growing your cities' food, or driving it to you, or mining your coal, or pumping your water, or anything at all, until you pigs leave power and never return," the abuses will escalate ad infinitum.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 19, 2022 12:44 PM (IXpV7)
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I agree but then that means the abuses will escalate ad infinitum. Hence my "am I crazy" comment above. Judging from the comments to my comment, the consensus seems to be I might not be all that crazy. Just premature.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 12:47 PM (iFTx/)
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John Durham's only real job was to pretend to be doing something while he ran out the clock on any possible action being taken.
Durham actually *did* bring a case to trial, but a DC jury will never convict the Deep State, as we saw.
Durham actually *did* bring a case to trial, but a DC jury will never convict the Deep State, as we saw.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 19, 2022 12:48 PM (ZGrMX)
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The brazen raid of President Trump’s home in Florida, Mar-a-Lago, likely has its roots in the Russia collusion story with a particular focus on Peter Strzok and his affiliation with the CIA.
https://tinyurl.com/2r2en423
Posted by: SMH at what's coming
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Huh, that could be it.
If Trump is sitting on proof that the CIA has been violating Title 10, and putting intelligence officers into the FBI counter intel to do it, then that would be something worth blowing up everything to get that proof back.
https://tinyurl.com/2r2en423
Posted by: SMH at what's coming
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Huh, that could be it.
If Trump is sitting on proof that the CIA has been violating Title 10, and putting intelligence officers into the FBI counter intel to do it, then that would be something worth blowing up everything to get that proof back.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 19, 2022 12:48 PM (5p7BC)
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I'm beginning to wonder whether we should just say "fuck it" and mobilize our armies to meet in the streets. No holds barred. May the best side win.
Am I crazy?
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 12:16 PM (iFTx/)
the minute arms go on the street, Biden and all the three letters declare insurrection and exercise extraordinary powers, and starts mass arrests and camps.
As long as we all pretend, they have to pretend to follow the rules, which slows them down and opens them to criticism.
The solution is not armed revolt. It is gradualism, slowdowns, noncompliance and finding alternate paths. It is humiliating. It feels meaningless.
However, sitting in solitary or in a work camp is humiliating and meaningless too, and you can't go out at 10pm for drunk Taco Bell.
Am I crazy?
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 12:16 PM (iFTx/)
the minute arms go on the street, Biden and all the three letters declare insurrection and exercise extraordinary powers, and starts mass arrests and camps.
As long as we all pretend, they have to pretend to follow the rules, which slows them down and opens them to criticism.
The solution is not armed revolt. It is gradualism, slowdowns, noncompliance and finding alternate paths. It is humiliating. It feels meaningless.
However, sitting in solitary or in a work camp is humiliating and meaningless too, and you can't go out at 10pm for drunk Taco Bell.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2022 12:48 PM (xhaym)
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Here's a beauty to add to the pile.
FBI agent pleads guilty to destroying evidence to frame a Trump-supporting state senator.
https://tinyurl.com/bdf37ee9
FBI agent pleads guilty to destroying evidence to frame a Trump-supporting state senator.
https://tinyurl.com/bdf37ee9
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 19, 2022 12:49 PM (H8QX8)
Posted by: wth at August 19, 2022 12:49 PM (v0R5T)
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The "hot sting of public condemnation" is reminiscent of this "accountability" I keep hearing be thrown around. Accountability is a neat word that makes the law and order folk feel all fuzzy and floppy that Steiner is indeed coming.
Steiner isn't coming. And it is not accountability that is going to get this country out of this mess.
Steiner isn't coming. And it is not accountability that is going to get this country out of this mess.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 12:49 PM (pTl+J)
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"You think it was LAWYERS who lost all these wars and got men killed?? If you want to blame the plans or RoE, then fine"
Fuck yes. If it's not clear. Fuck yes. They were a BIG part of it. Politicians may have started the war and kept it going, but they weren't making calls in the COC. Not were they shoving ROE's up the commands ass due to " legal" considerations really routed in politics.
Fuck yes. If it's not clear. Fuck yes. They were a BIG part of it. Politicians may have started the war and kept it going, but they weren't making calls in the COC. Not were they shoving ROE's up the commands ass due to " legal" considerations really routed in politics.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 19, 2022 12:49 PM (VF4WI)
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Until a GOP president is elected, then all bets are off.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp
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Unless the the tech lords are brought under control, you can kiss seeing the GOP taking the WH ever again.
And I don't see that happening anytime soon, not under this junta anyway.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp
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Unless the the tech lords are brought under control, you can kiss seeing the GOP taking the WH ever again.
And I don't see that happening anytime soon, not under this junta anyway.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 19, 2022 12:49 PM (NhLwH)
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Harvard and Yale should be seized and turned into day care centers.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 19, 2022 12:31 PM (cE4C5)
Find success on your strengths, I was always told!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 19, 2022 12:31 PM (cE4C5)
Find success on your strengths, I was always told!
Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2022 12:49 PM (xhaym)
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I expect the majority of governor candidates will be running on protecting their residents from fed over-reach. This will bewilder smaht people for quite a long time ... they are good at casting blame.
Posted by: BourbonChicken
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Just spit-balling here. I'm thinking things would be more entertaining if just a few governors were running For protection from their residents.
Posted by: BourbonChicken
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Just spit-balling here. I'm thinking things would be more entertaining if just a few governors were running For protection from their residents.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2022 12:49 PM (vT4Co)
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I like how Democrats slowly introduce words into the light of the Overton Window.
Now we have "cleansed". That's a healthy word. Great "rhetoric".
As often happens with new Leftist terminology, "cleansed" is a word extremely beloved of the kind of women who think Trump is going to come and grab their pussy if they don't put up enough IN THIS HOUSE WE BELIEVE signs. (They also spend a lot of money on Gwyneth Paltrow's products).
Now we have "cleansed". That's a healthy word. Great "rhetoric".
As often happens with new Leftist terminology, "cleansed" is a word extremely beloved of the kind of women who think Trump is going to come and grab their pussy if they don't put up enough IN THIS HOUSE WE BELIEVE signs. (They also spend a lot of money on Gwyneth Paltrow's products).
Posted by: Ian S. at August 19, 2022 12:49 PM (ZGrMX)
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Durham actually *did* bring a case to trial, but a DC jury will never convict the Deep State, as we saw.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 19, 2022 12:48 PM (ZGrMX)
Drat. Foiled again!
Guess we'll get em next time. We gave it the ol college try.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 19, 2022 12:48 PM (ZGrMX)
Drat. Foiled again!
Guess we'll get em next time. We gave it the ol college try.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 12:50 PM (pTl+J)
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has a single sitting member of Congress called for defunding/disbanding the FBI?
the first one that does will have a huge target on their back
the first one that does will have a huge target on their back
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at August 19, 2022 12:50 PM (V6W16)
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The solution is not armed revolt. It is gradualism, slowdowns, noncompliance and finding alternate paths. It is humiliating. It feels meaningless.
However, sitting in solitary or in a work camp is humiliating and meaningless too, and you can't go out at 10pm for drunk Taco Bell.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2022 12:48 PM (xhaym)
Yes. Live not by lies.
However, sitting in solitary or in a work camp is humiliating and meaningless too, and you can't go out at 10pm for drunk Taco Bell.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2022 12:48 PM (xhaym)
Yes. Live not by lies.
Posted by: 7man at August 19, 2022 12:50 PM (qwO6y)
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Stronk girls! Really messed up: Video shows NYC cabbie – a father of 4 – getting beat to death in broad daylight
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Two arrested, including a 15 year old girl, and, despite criminal histories, they're back on the street.
https://bit.ly/3Tdxrz4
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 19, 2022 12:41 PM (FVME7)
It's a good time to be a black criminal.
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Two arrested, including a 15 year old girl, and, despite criminal histories, they're back on the street.
https://bit.ly/3Tdxrz4
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 19, 2022 12:41 PM (FVME7)
It's a good time to be a black criminal.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 19, 2022 12:50 PM (u4CEu)
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The solution is not armed revolt. It is gradualism, slowdowns, noncompliance and finding alternate paths.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2022 12:48 PM (xhaym)
Agreed. Trump is providing good leadership by remaining calm through all this.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2022 12:48 PM (xhaym)
Agreed. Trump is providing good leadership by remaining calm through all this.
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 19, 2022 12:51 PM (H8QX8)
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Fatal misapprehension of the situation. Public opinion means nothing. The government is long, long past that being any factor at all. Until that opinion is "none of us are going to work, or growing your cities' food, or driving it to you, or mining your coal, or pumping your water, or anything at all, until you pigs leave power and never return," the abuses will escalate ad infinitum. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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YD, go back and read your Mao Tse Tung. The FBI has to swim in the sea of peasants. Piss off enough of the peasants and the FBI cadre has no insulation. Compared with the NKVD, Stasi, etc., the FBI is underpowered and not particularly effective due to factions within the bureaucracy itself. It is most effective acting on elites and random targets where it invents the crimes that it will charge the peasants with. As one public admin type declared, in the US, we have a semi empowered bureaucracy. As a result, it can result in horrendous injustices to its particular targets but is ineffective at restraining vast political movements. Letters of cachet and the control of the Bastille availed Louis XVI little in combating the French Revolution.
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YD, go back and read your Mao Tse Tung. The FBI has to swim in the sea of peasants. Piss off enough of the peasants and the FBI cadre has no insulation. Compared with the NKVD, Stasi, etc., the FBI is underpowered and not particularly effective due to factions within the bureaucracy itself. It is most effective acting on elites and random targets where it invents the crimes that it will charge the peasants with. As one public admin type declared, in the US, we have a semi empowered bureaucracy. As a result, it can result in horrendous injustices to its particular targets but is ineffective at restraining vast political movements. Letters of cachet and the control of the Bastille availed Louis XVI little in combating the French Revolution.
Posted by: whig at August 19, 2022 12:51 PM (CXr4y)
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Drat. Foiled again!
Guess we'll get em next time. We gave it the ol college try.
And what do you suggest be done instead? Be specific.
Guess we'll get em next time. We gave it the ol college try.
And what do you suggest be done instead? Be specific.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 19, 2022 12:51 PM (ZGrMX)
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i added this:
I don't know if that's necessary. The standard braindead Don't Know What Time It Is conservazombie is still possessed by a slavish leathergimp fetishization of anything having to do with authority, even when that authority is being used to crush them.
Because Tradition. Because that's the way things were 20 years ago, when things were completely different.
Because while leftwing NPCs get their coding updated from Central Processing Command every week or ten days, "conservative" NPCs are incapable of getting their coding updated, ever. It's all hardware, no software.
It was 2003. It is 2003. It will always be 2003.
I don't know if that's necessary. The standard braindead Don't Know What Time It Is conservazombie is still possessed by a slavish leathergimp fetishization of anything having to do with authority, even when that authority is being used to crush them.
Because Tradition. Because that's the way things were 20 years ago, when things were completely different.
Because while leftwing NPCs get their coding updated from Central Processing Command every week or ten days, "conservative" NPCs are incapable of getting their coding updated, ever. It's all hardware, no software.
It was 2003. It is 2003. It will always be 2003.
Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 19, 2022 12:51 PM (B3oWe)
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 19, 2022 12:52 PM (NhLwH)
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The solution is not armed revolt. It is gradualism, slowdowns, noncompliance and finding alternate paths.
And a focus on the future. Have lots of kids. Educate them well. Protect them from the corruption of the left. Have them do the same. This is a cultural issue, and that has to change in order for the politics to change.
And a focus on the future. Have lots of kids. Educate them well. Protect them from the corruption of the left. Have them do the same. This is a cultural issue, and that has to change in order for the politics to change.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2022 12:52 PM (Ivdso)
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It's a good time to be a black criminal.
Antifa and BLM aren't the DNC's armed wing, the black underclass is. That's the entire point of the Soros DA and Secretary of State programs.
Antifa and BLM aren't the DNC's armed wing, the black underclass is. That's the entire point of the Soros DA and Secretary of State programs.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 19, 2022 12:53 PM (ZGrMX)
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YD, go back and read your Mao Tse Tung. The FBI has to swim in the sea of peasants. Piss off enough of the peasants and the FBI cadre has no insulation. Compared with the NKVD, Stasi, etc., the FBI is underpowered and not particularly effective due to factions within the bureaucracy itself. It is most effective acting on elites and random targets where it invents the crimes that it will charge the peasants with. As one public admin type declared, in the US, we have a semi empowered bureaucracy. As a result, it can result in horrendous injustices to its particular targets but is ineffective at restraining vast political movements. Letters of cachet and the control of the Bastille availed Louis XVI little in combating the French Revolution.
Posted by: whig at August 19, 2022 12:51 PM (CXr4y)
And hence they give the IRS.
Posted by: whig at August 19, 2022 12:51 PM (CXr4y)
And hence they give the IRS.
Posted by: 7man at August 19, 2022 12:53 PM (qwO6y)
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207 Because while leftwing NPCs get their coding updated from Central Processing Command every week or ten days, "conservative" NPCs are incapable of getting their coding updated, ever. It's all hardware, no software.
It was 2003. It is 2003. It will always be 2003.
Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 19, 2022 12:51 PM (B3oWe)
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Not sure if this is accurate.
I mean...Conservative Inc wasn't saying that cutting off kids' dicks was fine if there was strong feeling behind it in 2003.
It was 2003. It is 2003. It will always be 2003.
Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 19, 2022 12:51 PM (B3oWe)
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Not sure if this is accurate.
I mean...Conservative Inc wasn't saying that cutting off kids' dicks was fine if there was strong feeling behind it in 2003.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 19, 2022 12:53 PM (LvTSG)
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They are **STILL** under investigation, years later?
Of course, so Wray can smirk and say, "Senator, you know I can't comment on things under investigation. "
Of course, so Wray can smirk and say, "Senator, you know I can't comment on things under investigation. "
Posted by: JM in Florida at August 19, 2022 12:53 PM (Zhmrx)
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The GOP will do nothing toward the FBI, DoJ, etc. Nothing at all. They talk a good game, but does anyone here truly think they will get to the bottom of the corruption?
No one here does, and apparently but more importantly, no one anywhere else does either. MAGA candidates can clean up in November but until the GOP leadership and its lickspittle minions can be purged, nothing meaningful will be accomplished.
No one here does, and apparently but more importantly, no one anywhere else does either. MAGA candidates can clean up in November but until the GOP leadership and its lickspittle minions can be purged, nothing meaningful will be accomplished.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 19, 2022 12:53 PM (8llgm)
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No offense, but I gotta laugh at all the debate over whether Trump would be indicted in DC or FL. Of course it would be DC. 100% certainty. Whether it actually BELONGS in DC is a different question, and one that I can't answer without knowing what he would be charged with. But it's an absolute certainty he would be charged in DC no matter what.
Oh and what's the remedy for being charged in the wrong district? You make a motion to change the forum of the prosecution. Where do you make that motion? Unless I am mistaken, you make it to the same court you are accusing of being the wrong forum. Anyone here think any DC judge is gonna grant any motion by Trump to transfer the case to FL???????
Oh and what's the remedy for being charged in the wrong district? You make a motion to change the forum of the prosecution. Where do you make that motion? Unless I am mistaken, you make it to the same court you are accusing of being the wrong forum. Anyone here think any DC judge is gonna grant any motion by Trump to transfer the case to FL???????
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 12:53 PM (iFTx/)
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If only the right could show the same patience and fortitude.
Posted by: Rusty Trawler at August 19, 2022 12:42 PM (1gif2)
It's not just patience and fortitude. It's treachery. And that's not in our side's nature. It is part and parcel of being a lefty.
Posted by: Rusty Trawler at August 19, 2022 12:42 PM (1gif2)
It's not just patience and fortitude. It's treachery. And that's not in our side's nature. It is part and parcel of being a lefty.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 12:53 PM (pTl+J)
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>>>Unless the the tech lords are brought under control, you can kiss seeing the GOP taking the WH ever again.
And I don't see that happening anytime soon, not under this junta anyway.
Posted by: SMH
The USPS are putting out drop boxes at election time. No cheating there. Plus F**kerberg is going to use FB to continue the steal.
And I don't see that happening anytime soon, not under this junta anyway.
Posted by: SMH
The USPS are putting out drop boxes at election time. No cheating there. Plus F**kerberg is going to use FB to continue the steal.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 19, 2022 12:53 PM (bkUtD)
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No one here does, and apparently but more importantly, no one anywhere else does either. MAGA candidates can clean up in November but until the GOP leadership and its lickspittle minions can be purged, nothing meaningful will be accomplished.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead
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This^
Nice to see you, COJ.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead
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This^
Nice to see you, COJ.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 19, 2022 12:53 PM (NhLwH)
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191 I'm beginning to wonder whether we should just say "fuck it" and mobilize our armies to meet in the streets. No holds barred. May the best side win. Am I crazy?
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 12:16 PM (iFTx/)
the minute arms go on the street, Biden and all the three letters declare insurrection and exercise extraordinary powers, and starts mass arrests and camps.
Posted by: Kindltot
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I am more afraid of what happens once a revolution/revolt begins--each one follows its own logic but the usual result is a bloodbath and a caudillo to enforce the internal peace by rigorous curtailment of any liberties.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 12:16 PM (iFTx/)
the minute arms go on the street, Biden and all the three letters declare insurrection and exercise extraordinary powers, and starts mass arrests and camps.
Posted by: Kindltot
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I am more afraid of what happens once a revolution/revolt begins--each one follows its own logic but the usual result is a bloodbath and a caudillo to enforce the internal peace by rigorous curtailment of any liberties.
Posted by: whig at August 19, 2022 12:54 PM (CXr4y)
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The USPS are putting out drop boxes at election time. No cheating there. Plus F**kerberg is going to use FB to continue the steal.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp
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Yep.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp
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Yep.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 19, 2022 12:54 PM (NhLwH)
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The standard braindead Don't Know What Time It Is conservazombie is still possessed by a slavish leathergimp fetishization of anything having to do with authority, even when that authority is being used to crush them.
I want to have Chuy's man bebes
I want to have Chuy's man bebes
Posted by: blaster at August 19, 2022 12:54 PM (6TxNR)
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214 No one here does, and apparently but more importantly, no one anywhere else does either. MAGA candidates can clean up in November but until the GOP leadership and its lickspittle minions can be purged, nothing meaningful will be accomplished.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 19, 2022 12:53 PM (8llgm)
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A reinforced MAGA Congress and a Trump WH in 2025 may (MAY) be able to start cutting budgets.
I wouldn't bet money on it, but I'd put it at a greater than 0 chance. You know. 3% chance.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 19, 2022 12:53 PM (8llgm)
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A reinforced MAGA Congress and a Trump WH in 2025 may (MAY) be able to start cutting budgets.
I wouldn't bet money on it, but I'd put it at a greater than 0 chance. You know. 3% chance.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 19, 2022 12:54 PM (LvTSG)
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The best way to deal with mules loading up drop boxes is to have a street party right next to one on election night. Put up a barbecue, lawn chairs, music, just hang out and have fun. Have cameras out.
Why do I know this works? Because I saw video of people doing just that and several cars drove up circled around a bit, and left. They don't want witnesses and cameras on them.
Why do I know this works? Because I saw video of people doing just that and several cars drove up circled around a bit, and left. They don't want witnesses and cameras on them.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2022 12:55 PM (Ivdso)
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@182 whig-I'm sure it was a fishing expedition to serve whatever purpose they want. It just smacks of them preparing to claim the records were removed from DC therefore whatever crime they can conjure up, thats where it'll be tried and I'm sure with some judges approval which would be unprecedented or illegal. We'll scream it's unfair but they'll continue on.
Now maybe I'm drifting off into fantasy, but that is their track record. Making up the rules and law as they go and as it suits their agenda.
Thanks for answering my questions.
Now maybe I'm drifting off into fantasy, but that is their track record. Making up the rules and law as they go and as it suits their agenda.
Thanks for answering my questions.
Posted by: JROD at August 19, 2022 12:55 PM (0jZnq)
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Because while leftwing NPCs get their coding updated from Central Processing Command every week or ten days, "conservative" NPCs are incapable of getting their coding updated, ever. It's all hardware, no software.
Conservative NPCs have had multiple firmware updates since 2003. Anti-Tea Party and NeverTrump are the obvious points of reference.
Conservative NPCs have had multiple firmware updates since 2003. Anti-Tea Party and NeverTrump are the obvious points of reference.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 19, 2022 12:55 PM (ZGrMX)
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>>>MAGA candidates can clean up in November but until the GOP leadership and its lickspittle minions can be purged, nothing meaningful will be accomplished.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead
Bitch McConnell said we won't win the Senate. A Speaker who hates his own party. But keep voting for him GOPe.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead
Bitch McConnell said we won't win the Senate. A Speaker who hates his own party. But keep voting for him GOPe.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 19, 2022 12:55 PM (bkUtD)
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Redactions don't work. If you hold the paper up to the light you can usually make out what's written underneath.
Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 19, 2022 12:55 PM (g1EEm)
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SMH @ 218-
I rate this 100% factual.
I rate this 100% factual.
Posted by: Eromero at August 19, 2022 12:55 PM (gktX6)
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Thought Harvard and Yale were expensive daycare facilities.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2022 12:55 PM (og9zY)
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The country needs open heart surgery.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 19, 2022 12:55 PM (+Wc1h)
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I like how Democrats slowly introduce words into the light of the Overton Window.
Now we have "cleansed". That's a healthy word. Great "rhetoric".
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 12:45 PM (pTl+J)
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Another recent one is the Orwellian "gender-affirming" care, surgery, etc. when in fact it's gender-denying (really sex-denying, since they of course earlier canceled the Male/Female binary sex distinction to further pollute the language with now 57 flavors of "gender").
Now we have "cleansed". That's a healthy word. Great "rhetoric".
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 12:45 PM (pTl+J)
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Another recent one is the Orwellian "gender-affirming" care, surgery, etc. when in fact it's gender-denying (really sex-denying, since they of course earlier canceled the Male/Female binary sex distinction to further pollute the language with now 57 flavors of "gender").
Posted by: ShainS -- VDH-Endorsed-by-Proxy Connoisseur of Cruelty at August 19, 2022 12:56 PM (WtAgB)
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>>>Conservative NPCs have had multiple firmware updates since 2003. Anti-Tea Party and NeverTrump are the obvious points of reference.
were those updates to conservative NPCs, though? Consider: The "conservative" leaders pushing that are all... liberals.
were those updates to conservative NPCs, though? Consider: The "conservative" leaders pushing that are all... liberals.
Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 19, 2022 12:56 PM (B3oWe)
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229 Thought Harvard and Yale were expensive daycare facilities.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2022 12:55 PM (og9zY)
Definitely what they are today.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2022 12:55 PM (og9zY)
Definitely what they are today.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 19, 2022 12:56 PM (b2nrj)
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Hey Eromero. : )
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 19, 2022 12:56 PM (NhLwH)
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In so doing, Congress would be pretty openly defying the Constitution to get to a more democratic order — and for that reason would need to insulate the law from judicial review"
Supposed "intellectuals" who write drivel like this never are able to understand that if you get rid of the Constitution, you get rid of the agreement that causes the States to stay in a union with each other. If he wants to guarantee the breakup of the US, this is the way to do it.
Supposed "intellectuals" who write drivel like this never are able to understand that if you get rid of the Constitution, you get rid of the agreement that causes the States to stay in a union with each other. If he wants to guarantee the breakup of the US, this is the way to do it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2022 12:56 PM (trdmm)
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>>> 178 Speaking of the Ukranians....How come the so clled President can just choose to send copious amounts of money and weapons there without any kind of Congressional permission. I thought only the House can start money flowing. Does he have some kind of emergency authority to do this?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 19, 2022 12:45 PM (Y+l9t)
*tee hee*
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 19, 2022 12:45 PM (Y+l9t)
*tee hee*
Posted by: "continuing resolutions" for the past 15 years or so at August 19, 2022 12:56 PM (llON8)
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"Durham actually *did* bring a case to trial, but a DC jury will never convict the Deep State, as we saw."
I would have still had a sliver of respect for Durham if after that he came out and said, "we'll never get a conviction on anyone, so here's my report".
I would have still had a sliver of respect for Durham if after that he came out and said, "we'll never get a conviction on anyone, so here's my report".
Posted by: lowandslow at August 19, 2022 12:57 PM (qH6FZ)
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>>>It was 2003. It is 2003. It will always be 2003.
Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 19, 2022 12:51 PM (B3oWe)
So, has David French already given away his wife? I can't remember.
Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 19, 2022 12:51 PM (B3oWe)
So, has David French already given away his wife? I can't remember.
Posted by: CNN at August 19, 2022 12:57 PM (QYPq3)
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233 229 Thought Harvard and Yale were expensive DOGGIECARE facilities.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2022 12:55 PM (og9zY)
Definitely what they are today.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 19, 2022 12:56 PM (b2nrj)
_____________________________
FIFY
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2022 12:55 PM (og9zY)
Definitely what they are today.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 19, 2022 12:56 PM (b2nrj)
_____________________________
FIFY
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 12:57 PM (iFTx/)
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Because while leftwing NPCs get their coding updated from Central Processing Command every week or ten days
Yep. It is always amazing to see some new idea pop out of the leftwing elite and almost immediately every lefty is echoing it like it was written on a ancient scroll. And often their talking point is the *exact* opposite of what is was before.
Remember when Colbert told his audience Trump fired Comey and they started cheering? Because the left didn't like Comey at that point because he admitted Hillary broke the law.
Then Colbert harangued them that this was bad because Comey was a good guy, completely on the up and up and they just lapped it up.
Yep. It is always amazing to see some new idea pop out of the leftwing elite and almost immediately every lefty is echoing it like it was written on a ancient scroll. And often their talking point is the *exact* opposite of what is was before.
Remember when Colbert told his audience Trump fired Comey and they started cheering? Because the left didn't like Comey at that point because he admitted Hillary broke the law.
Then Colbert harangued them that this was bad because Comey was a good guy, completely on the up and up and they just lapped it up.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 19, 2022 12:57 PM (ESjRY)
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It is the same small cabal at FBI HQ who runs all of these scams.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 19, 2022 12:22 PM (ZLI7S)
I'm starting to wonder if you're exactly right to be optimistic about Durham. Not because he can get much further than the Hillary Clinton campaign, but because having a "rogue" unit at the FBI is so completely dangerous to any possible rivals of Team Biden. Lots of Democrats want that brass ring: they don't want these FBI tactics used against them by President Kamala.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 19, 2022 12:22 PM (ZLI7S)
I'm starting to wonder if you're exactly right to be optimistic about Durham. Not because he can get much further than the Hillary Clinton campaign, but because having a "rogue" unit at the FBI is so completely dangerous to any possible rivals of Team Biden. Lots of Democrats want that brass ring: they don't want these FBI tactics used against them by President Kamala.
Posted by: trev006 at August 19, 2022 12:57 PM (eaaNf)
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231 I like how Democrats slowly introduce words into the light of the Overton Window.
Now we have "cleansed". That's a healthy word. Great "rhetoric".
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 12:45 PM (pTl+J)
it's the same language the Third Reich used to talk about Jews.
Now we have "cleansed". That's a healthy word. Great "rhetoric".
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 12:45 PM (pTl+J)
it's the same language the Third Reich used to talk about Jews.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2022 12:57 PM (trdmm)
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Buzz Patterson
@BuzzPatterson
21m
When Dems tell you the FBI should be immune from criticism, pull this article out.
#DefundTheFBI
Think The FBI Deserves The Benefit Of The Doubt? Think Again
https://tinyurl.com/55f82vtf
@BuzzPatterson
21m
When Dems tell you the FBI should be immune from criticism, pull this article out.
#DefundTheFBI
Think The FBI Deserves The Benefit Of The Doubt? Think Again
https://tinyurl.com/55f82vtf
Posted by: redridinghood at August 19, 2022 12:57 PM (NpAcC)
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A reinforced MAGA Congress and a Trump WH in 2025 may (MAY) be able to start cutting budgets.
I don’t give a crap about cutting budgets any more. I want to cut people, and I don’t care how much it costs in the short term.
I don’t give a crap about cutting budgets any more. I want to cut people, and I don’t care how much it costs in the short term.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 19, 2022 12:58 PM (U+Oxn)
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So, has David French already given away his wife? I can't remember.
It is not yet the Saturday. The Friday is when the Paulo has the special time with the how he say...ah yes the fair lady Jessica.
It is not yet the Saturday. The Friday is when the Paulo has the special time with the how he say...ah yes the fair lady Jessica.
Posted by: The Paulo at August 19, 2022 12:58 PM (ESjRY)
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In theory the way to deal with the party leadership is to keep electing more and more sane people who go to congress to fight for us, until they overwhelm the party structure and take over.
However, there are flaws to that, such as how people who go to congress too often are coopted and corrupted, how it takes years to get this done and every year a congressthing is in office is more likely they will go bad, and how the GOPe is very effective at destroying their own candidates to let the Dems win if that candidate threatens the party leadership.
However, there are flaws to that, such as how people who go to congress too often are coopted and corrupted, how it takes years to get this done and every year a congressthing is in office is more likely they will go bad, and how the GOPe is very effective at destroying their own candidates to let the Dems win if that candidate threatens the party leadership.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2022 12:58 PM (Ivdso)
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were those updates to conservative NPCs, though? Consider: The "conservative" leaders pushing that are all... liberals.
If I remember correctly, Thomas Sowell was one of the signatures on the infamous National Review "Against Trump" cover. There are people who aren't liberals but also don't know what time it is.
If I remember correctly, Thomas Sowell was one of the signatures on the infamous National Review "Against Trump" cover. There are people who aren't liberals but also don't know what time it is.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 19, 2022 12:58 PM (ZGrMX)
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244 A reinforced MAGA Congress and a Trump WH in 2025 may (MAY) be able to start cutting budgets.
I don’t give a crap about cutting budgets any more. I want to cut people, and I don’t care how much it costs in the short term.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 19, 2022 12:58 PM (U+Oxn)
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Cutting budgets is cutting people from the federal payroll.
I don’t give a crap about cutting budgets any more. I want to cut people, and I don’t care how much it costs in the short term.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 19, 2022 12:58 PM (U+Oxn)
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Cutting budgets is cutting people from the federal payroll.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 19, 2022 12:58 PM (LvTSG)
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Instead of arms in the street, can't we just go out separate ways?
Posted by: Motionview, a National Divorcee at August 19, 2022 12:58 PM (9xH94)
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The best way to deal with mules loading up drop boxes is to have a street party right next to one on election night. Put up a barbecue, lawn chairs, music, just hang out and have fun. Have cameras out.
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Good idea, at least in AOs where it's relatively safe.
I saw that video too.
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Good idea, at least in AOs where it's relatively safe.
I saw that video too.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 19, 2022 12:59 PM (NhLwH)
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Chuy, maybe I am naive, but I really feel like people like Schlichter, Posobiec, VDH to name a few are starting to make a difference. The Republican primary wins by Lake, Masters, Kent, Hageman, Vance, Schmidt are positive signs. Thoses are Republicans fed up. That is why the other side is in a panic. The alternative nedia is starting to make a difference. I even see you quoted more often. (-:
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 19, 2022 12:59 PM (Y+l9t)
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Supposed "intellectuals" who write drivel like this never are able to understand that if you get rid of the Constitution, you get rid of the agreement that causes the States to stay in a union with each other. If he wants to guarantee the breakup of the US, this is the way to do it. Posted by: Tom Servo
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Those who believe themselves to be Philosopher Kings never understand that any action provokes a reaction and the more extreme the action, the more extreme the reaction will be.
The British slang term 'wankers' describes them accurately.
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Those who believe themselves to be Philosopher Kings never understand that any action provokes a reaction and the more extreme the action, the more extreme the reaction will be.
The British slang term 'wankers' describes them accurately.
Posted by: whig at August 19, 2022 12:59 PM (CXr4y)
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I would have still had a sliver of respect for Durham if after that he came out and said, "we'll never get a conviction on anyone, so here's my report".
Posted by: lowandslow at August 19, 2022 12:57 PM (qH6FZ)
yep. Why go on pretending after that exposed the lie behind the entire effort? Unless the only point of him from the start was to facilitate the pretending.
Posted by: lowandslow at August 19, 2022 12:57 PM (qH6FZ)
yep. Why go on pretending after that exposed the lie behind the entire effort? Unless the only point of him from the start was to facilitate the pretending.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2022 12:59 PM (trdmm)
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However, there are flaws to that, such as how people who go to congress too often are coopted and corrupted, how it takes years to get this done and every year a congressthing is in office is more likely they will go bad, and how the GOPe is very effective at destroying their own candidates to let the Dems win if that candidate threatens the party leadership.
There also needs to be *aggressive* primarying of idiots like McConnell and Graham.
There also needs to be *aggressive* primarying of idiots like McConnell and Graham.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 19, 2022 12:59 PM (ZGrMX)
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https://youtu.be/ApfBvkql0lI
Instant classic!
Babylon Bee.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt
All the leaves are gone (All the leaves are gone)
And the stayers gay (And the stayers gay)
I've been for a walk (I've been for a walk)
In Cali Forn I A (In Cali Forn I A)
I'd be safe and warm (I'd be safe and warm)
If I weren't in L.A. (if I weren't in L.A.)
California leavin' (California leavin')
On such a winter's day
Instant classic!
Babylon Bee.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt
All the leaves are gone (All the leaves are gone)
And the stayers gay (And the stayers gay)
I've been for a walk (I've been for a walk)
In Cali Forn I A (In Cali Forn I A)
I'd be safe and warm (I'd be safe and warm)
If I weren't in L.A. (if I weren't in L.A.)
California leavin' (California leavin')
On such a winter's day
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 19, 2022 12:59 PM (FVME7)
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Anyone know what the commission that is given to a Special Counsel is? They are to deliver a confidential report to the AG. That's it. The only requirement. Oh, they can pursue other crimes discovered in the process, if they want to. Or are permitted to by the AG.
Remember, the whole world was screaming that Barr had to release Mueller's report. He did so. Anyone think that Garland will release Durham's report? Will the media demand it be so? The Congress?
Remember, the whole world was screaming that Barr had to release Mueller's report. He did so. Anyone think that Garland will release Durham's report? Will the media demand it be so? The Congress?
Posted by: blaster at August 19, 2022 12:59 PM (6TxNR)
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"Arms?!? You insensitive brute!" - Michelle Fields.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2022 12:59 PM (og9zY)
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Not sure if this is accurate.
I mean...Conservative Inc wasn't saying that cutting off kids' dicks was fine if there was strong feeling behind it in 2003.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 19, 2022 12:53 PM (LvTSG)
No but there's an element of "trust our friends on the left" to it all, which I think is what ace is referring to.
I mean...Conservative Inc wasn't saying that cutting off kids' dicks was fine if there was strong feeling behind it in 2003.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 19, 2022 12:53 PM (LvTSG)
No but there's an element of "trust our friends on the left" to it all, which I think is what ace is referring to.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 01:00 PM (pTl+J)
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99% of the FBI rank and file are good patriotic Americans!
Posted by: Sean Hannity's Lapel Pin at August 19, 2022 01:00 PM (j40lz)
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“We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” Barack Obama, 2008
“We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” Barack Obama, 2008
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 19, 2022 01:00 PM (63Dwl)
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People need to stop accusing the FBI of acting like the KGB, or they are going to start disappearing in the night.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 19, 2022 01:00 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: REDACTED at August 19, 2022 01:00 PM (us2H3)
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Cutting budgets is cutting people from the federal payroll.
Not unless it’s explicit.
And just being cut from the “federal payroll” doesn’t mean they’re cut—just ask Zuckerberg.
Not unless it’s explicit.
And just being cut from the “federal payroll” doesn’t mean they’re cut—just ask Zuckerberg.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 19, 2022 01:01 PM (U+Oxn)
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There also needs to be *aggressive* primarying of idiots like McConnell and Graham.
I am okay if trash like that is left in office but demoted to powerless basement offices and meaningless committees.
I am okay if trash like that is left in office but demoted to powerless basement offices and meaningless committees.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2022 01:01 PM (Ivdso)
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>>>If I remember correctly, Thomas Sowell was one of the signatures on the infamous National Review "Against Trump" cover. There are people who aren't liberals but also don't know what time it is.
I think there's a difference between opposing trump before he locked down the nomination and opposing him after, that is, supporting Democrats because you're determined the party will remain the property of corporate interests and urban liberal neocons or you'll just destroy it.
also, there were real questions about Trump was legitimately conservative or just a liberal with some Archie Bunker outbursts, which he may or may not have even meant. Those were later put to rest. Well, for most of us. Not for "The True Conservative" Brigade.
I think there's a difference between opposing trump before he locked down the nomination and opposing him after, that is, supporting Democrats because you're determined the party will remain the property of corporate interests and urban liberal neocons or you'll just destroy it.
also, there were real questions about Trump was legitimately conservative or just a liberal with some Archie Bunker outbursts, which he may or may not have even meant. Those were later put to rest. Well, for most of us. Not for "The True Conservative" Brigade.
Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 19, 2022 01:01 PM (B3oWe)
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>>>99% of the FBI rank and file are good patriotic Americans!
Posted by: Sean Hannity's Lapel Pin
99% are shitters who would gladly raid your home at the drop of a hat. I love how the GOP is saluting the handful of Gestapo who came forward to whine about the Trump raid.
They're. All. Corrupt.
Posted by: Sean Hannity's Lapel Pin
99% are shitters who would gladly raid your home at the drop of a hat. I love how the GOP is saluting the handful of Gestapo who came forward to whine about the Trump raid.
They're. All. Corrupt.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 19, 2022 01:01 PM (bkUtD)
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This remains one of the best comment sections in the world but the percentage of people here who know what time it is is still a lot lower than it should be.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 01:02 PM (pTl+J)
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With debt and unfunded liabilities what does it matter about cutting budgets? Plenty of reputable economists say were more than likely past the point of no return. Sure cut budgets, fine, but an inevitable collapse is coming and cutting budgets will not soften the blow. What will soften the blow is us bringing back manufacturing to this country. Jobs.
Posted by: JROD at August 19, 2022 01:02 PM (0jZnq)
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>>>257 "Arms?!? You insensitive brute!" - Michelle Fields.
Posted by: Anna Puma
good point. Some never forgave him for ripping of Michelle Fields' arm and then raping her with it.
They claimed that was "ungentlemanly."
Posted by: Anna Puma
good point. Some never forgave him for ripping of Michelle Fields' arm and then raping her with it.
They claimed that was "ungentlemanly."
Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 19, 2022 01:02 PM (B3oWe)
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I no longer trust the American Justice System
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 19, 2022 01:02 PM (FHzKS)
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99% of the FBI & IRS rank and file are good patriotic Americans!
Posted by: Sean Hannity's Lapel Pin at August 19, 2022 01:00 PM (j40lz)
Updated.
Posted by: Sean Hannity's Lapel Pin at August 19, 2022 01:00 PM (j40lz)
Updated.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 19, 2022 01:03 PM (4I/2K)
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258 Not sure if this is accurate.
I mean...Conservative Inc wasn't saying that cutting off kids' dicks was fine if there was strong feeling behind it in 2003.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 19, 2022 12:53 PM (LvTSG)
No but there's an element of "trust our friends on the left" to it all, which I think is what ace is referring to.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 01:00 PM (pTl+J)
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I think even the "20 years ago" thing is giving Conservative Inc too much credit. Even 20 years ago it was plain as the boil on that girls' back that the Deep State (before it was called that) and the letter agencies were corrupt, incompetent, and wildly out of control. Just with the FBI, there was Waco, Ruby Ridge, Pam Geller, Richard Jewell, and that poor guy they hounded for years thinking he was some kind of chemical terrorist.
I mean...Conservative Inc wasn't saying that cutting off kids' dicks was fine if there was strong feeling behind it in 2003.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 19, 2022 12:53 PM (LvTSG)
No but there's an element of "trust our friends on the left" to it all, which I think is what ace is referring to.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 01:00 PM (pTl+J)
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I think even the "20 years ago" thing is giving Conservative Inc too much credit. Even 20 years ago it was plain as the boil on that girls' back that the Deep State (before it was called that) and the letter agencies were corrupt, incompetent, and wildly out of control. Just with the FBI, there was Waco, Ruby Ridge, Pam Geller, Richard Jewell, and that poor guy they hounded for years thinking he was some kind of chemical terrorist.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 01:03 PM (iFTx/)
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249 Instead of arms in the street, can't we just go out separate ways?
Posted by: Motionview, a National Divorcee at August 19, 2022 12:58 PM (9xH94)
When you look at the red/blue map, the reason is obvious. They only own a few big cities, not whole regions. For example, why Chicago get to leave and drag the rest of Illinois with it, when the rest of Illinois doesn't want to go?
No, there will be no national divorce. Face the hard fact - one side has to win, and one side has to lose and be utterly destroyed. No other way out.
Posted by: Motionview, a National Divorcee at August 19, 2022 12:58 PM (9xH94)
When you look at the red/blue map, the reason is obvious. They only own a few big cities, not whole regions. For example, why Chicago get to leave and drag the rest of Illinois with it, when the rest of Illinois doesn't want to go?
No, there will be no national divorce. Face the hard fact - one side has to win, and one side has to lose and be utterly destroyed. No other way out.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2022 01:03 PM (trdmm)
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I am not sure that congress can specifically order people to be fired. They can cut budgets and eliminate offices that previous legislation created, but its up to the executive to decide hiring etc.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2022 01:03 PM (Ivdso)
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If I remember correctly, Thomas Sowell was one of the signatures on the infamous National Review "Against Trump" cover. There are people who aren't liberals but also don't know what time it is.
Posted by: Ian S.
Dana Loesch, too.
If I remember correctly, Thomas Sowell was one of the signatures on the infamous National Review "Against Trump" cover. There are people who aren't liberals but also don't know what time it is.
Posted by: Ian S.
Dana Loesch, too.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 19, 2022 01:04 PM (63Dwl)
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>>>If I remember correctly, Thomas Sowell was one of the signatures on the infamous National Review "Against Trump" cover. There are people who aren't liberals but also don't know what time it is.
And Dana Loesch, Glenn Beck, Ben Domenech, etc. I mean, I guess a few of them tried to make amends, but I'll never respect them for signing on to that National Review cover.
And Dana Loesch, Glenn Beck, Ben Domenech, etc. I mean, I guess a few of them tried to make amends, but I'll never respect them for signing on to that National Review cover.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 19, 2022 01:04 PM (bkUtD)
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251 Chuy, maybe I am naive, but I really feel like people like Schlichter, Posobiec, VDH to name a few are starting to make a difference. The Republican primary wins by Lake, Masters, Kent, Hageman, Vance, Schmidt are positive signs. Thoses are Republicans fed up. That is why the other side is in a panic. The alternative nedia is starting to make a difference. I even see you quoted more often. (-:
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 19, 2022 12:59 PM (Y+l9t)
It is true we have some W's (not that W) on the board, and we should savor them. But the other side is not in a panic. They are simply moving on their agenda no matter the pushback. Power does not explain. They don't have commentators going "tick tock" they just arrest people. They indicted and prosecuted Bannon in a period of 3 months. Imagine if Durham were to go after, I don't know, Jake Tapper. It's ridiculous to even consider it, right?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 19, 2022 12:59 PM (Y+l9t)
It is true we have some W's (not that W) on the board, and we should savor them. But the other side is not in a panic. They are simply moving on their agenda no matter the pushback. Power does not explain. They don't have commentators going "tick tock" they just arrest people. They indicted and prosecuted Bannon in a period of 3 months. Imagine if Durham were to go after, I don't know, Jake Tapper. It's ridiculous to even consider it, right?
Posted by: blaster at August 19, 2022 01:04 PM (6TxNR)
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I no longer trust the American Justice System
Posted by: Nevergiveup
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I trust no institution, including the military, unfortunately.
Posted by: Nevergiveup
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I trust no institution, including the military, unfortunately.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 19, 2022 01:04 PM (NhLwH)
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This remains one of the best comment sections in the world but the percentage of people here who know what time it is is still a lot lower than it should be.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 01:02 PM (pTl+J)
I am reliably informed that it is 25 or 6 to 4.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 01:02 PM (pTl+J)
I am reliably informed that it is 25 or 6 to 4.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 19, 2022 01:04 PM (4I/2K)
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265 also, there were real questions about Trump was legitimately conservative or just a liberal with some Archie Bunker outbursts, which he may or may not have even meant. Those were later put to rest. Well, for most of us. Not for "The True Conservative" Brigade.
Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 19, 2022 01:01 PM (B3oWe)
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Yeah, that thing came out around Super Tuesday. The primary was still on, and there was still some remote chance of someone else winning (not Jeb, he was out).
I don't hold anyone's contributions to that issue against them. Once he got the nomination, though, they needed to fall for their own heroine's advice and fallen in line instead of falling in love.
Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 19, 2022 01:01 PM (B3oWe)
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Yeah, that thing came out around Super Tuesday. The primary was still on, and there was still some remote chance of someone else winning (not Jeb, he was out).
I don't hold anyone's contributions to that issue against them. Once he got the nomination, though, they needed to fall for their own heroine's advice and fallen in line instead of falling in love.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 19, 2022 01:04 PM (LvTSG)
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Letters of cachet and the control of the Bastille availed Louis XVI little in combating the French Revolution.
Posted by: whig at August 19, 2022 12:51 PM
Everything you say is true, but I think we're saying the same thing. The point I was making is that until public opinion goes kinetic - in my example, general strikes, in your example, a mob baying for blood - then public opinion is useless. Our opprobrium means nothing. Power doesn't explain. Until the government is subjected to a vulgar display of power from the commoners, they'll never moderate themselves in any way.
Posted by: whig at August 19, 2022 12:51 PM
Everything you say is true, but I think we're saying the same thing. The point I was making is that until public opinion goes kinetic - in my example, general strikes, in your example, a mob baying for blood - then public opinion is useless. Our opprobrium means nothing. Power doesn't explain. Until the government is subjected to a vulgar display of power from the commoners, they'll never moderate themselves in any way.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 19, 2022 01:04 PM (IXpV7)
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"The USPS are putting out drop boxes at election time. No cheating there. Plus F**kerberg is going to use FB to continue the steal."
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 19, 2022 12:53 PM (bkUtD)
Basically did the same in the WI primary. Instead of drop boxes they used mobile "election" vans for dropping off ballots and ran ads instructing people how to drop them off at county and city offices, places unsupervised by party officials.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 19, 2022 12:53 PM (bkUtD)
Basically did the same in the WI primary. Instead of drop boxes they used mobile "election" vans for dropping off ballots and ran ads instructing people how to drop them off at county and city offices, places unsupervised by party officials.
Posted by: lowandslow at August 19, 2022 01:04 PM (qH6FZ)
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>>>I no longer trust the American Justice System
Posted by: Nevergiveup
Nor should you. Especially in blue cities and states.
Posted by: Nevergiveup
Nor should you. Especially in blue cities and states.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 19, 2022 01:04 PM (bkUtD)
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When you look at the red/blue map, the reason is obvious. They only own a few big cities, not whole regions. For example, why Chicago get to leave and drag the rest of Illinois with it, when the rest of Illinois doesn't want to go?
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This^
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This^
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 19, 2022 01:05 PM (NhLwH)
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The wonderful thing about drop boxes is they are open to anyone. If your state/city does this, then by all means drop a shit ton of Trump votes on them. Shit, back a semi trailer up to the polling station and unload them via forklift like Philly. Black ladies love to count and count and count ballots cuz ZuckerBucks.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 19, 2022 01:05 PM (HTCOy)
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Because Tradition. Because that's the way things were 20 years ago, when things were completely different.
Because while leftwing NPCs get their coding updated from Central Processing Command every week or ten days, "conservative" NPCs are incapable of getting their coding updated, ever. It's all hardware, no software.
It was 2003. It is 2003. It will always be 2003.
Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 19, 2022 12:51 PM (B3oWe)
It's not all hardware. For most, updating the software requires killing the America they love and replacing it with the unknown. That's a hell of a hard sell to a Normie. It could break a person.
Because while leftwing NPCs get their coding updated from Central Processing Command every week or ten days, "conservative" NPCs are incapable of getting their coding updated, ever. It's all hardware, no software.
It was 2003. It is 2003. It will always be 2003.
Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 19, 2022 12:51 PM (B3oWe)
It's not all hardware. For most, updating the software requires killing the America they love and replacing it with the unknown. That's a hell of a hard sell to a Normie. It could break a person.
Posted by: Buddy at August 19, 2022 01:05 PM (MFphb)
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I think there's a difference between opposing trump before he locked down the nomination and opposing him after, that is, supporting Democrats because you're determined the party will remain the property of corporate interests and urban liberal neocons or you'll just destroy it."
I agree - we forget now how we all worked through that in the Summer of 2016. I was one who thought Trump would turn out to be too liberal, but I was glad to be proved wrong.
I agree - we forget now how we all worked through that in the Summer of 2016. I was one who thought Trump would turn out to be too liberal, but I was glad to be proved wrong.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2022 01:05 PM (trdmm)
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>>> 243 Buzz Patterson
@BuzzPatterson
21m
When Dems tell you the FBI should be immune from criticism, pull this article out.
#DefundTheFBI
Think The FBI Deserves The Benefit Of The Doubt? Think Again
https://tinyurl.com/55f82vtf
Posted by: redridinghood at August 19, 2022 12:57 PM (NpAcC)
The article is subtitled A look at the FBI’s last six years shows a pattern of irredeemable corruption and is all about the Eff.Bee.EYE's efforts to get OrangeManBad. If anything Dems would be thrilled at the FBI's efforts to "fortify law enforcement". It *might* be useful for non-Dems who are stuck in 2003.
@BuzzPatterson
21m
When Dems tell you the FBI should be immune from criticism, pull this article out.
#DefundTheFBI
Think The FBI Deserves The Benefit Of The Doubt? Think Again
https://tinyurl.com/55f82vtf
Posted by: redridinghood at August 19, 2022 12:57 PM (NpAcC)
The article is subtitled A look at the FBI’s last six years shows a pattern of irredeemable corruption and is all about the Eff.Bee.EYE's efforts to get OrangeManBad. If anything Dems would be thrilled at the FBI's efforts to "fortify law enforcement". It *might* be useful for non-Dems who are stuck in 2003.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 19, 2022 01:05 PM (llON8)
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I think there's a difference between opposing trump before he locked down the nomination and opposing him after, that is, supporting Democrats because you're determined the party will remain the property of corporate interests and urban liberal neocons or you'll just destroy it.
Right. I think Sowell would have a very different take on Trump if you asked him now. I mean, Candidate Trump was talking about universal healthcare and palled around with the Clintons, it was not unreasonable to distrust and dislike the bombastic egotistical reality show host with a string of former sleazy adulteries in his past. What we know now is very different from what we knew then.
Right. I think Sowell would have a very different take on Trump if you asked him now. I mean, Candidate Trump was talking about universal healthcare and palled around with the Clintons, it was not unreasonable to distrust and dislike the bombastic egotistical reality show host with a string of former sleazy adulteries in his past. What we know now is very different from what we knew then.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2022 01:06 PM (Ivdso)
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Honestly, the HoR doesn't do jack shit. They sure as hell don't produce a budget, or control spending. They sure as hell don't craft laws, that's done by K street lobbyists. They're really just a drain on the economy. I'd like to see the next MAGA preznit call a special session and order them to submit a budget that funds the minimum essential government functions and shut everything down until they do. And when they submit a budget for the minimum essential government, everything that isn't funded goes in the crapper.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 19, 2022 01:06 PM (8llgm)
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but the percentage of people here who know what time it is is still a lot lower than it should be.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 01:02 PM
Those who fall into the "does anyone really care" percentage seems to be rising.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 01:02 PM
Those who fall into the "does anyone really care" percentage seems to be rising.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 19, 2022 01:06 PM (a3Q+t)
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“Leathergimp” makes another appearance this week.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 19, 2022 01:06 PM (5g1J4)
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This remains one of the best comment sections in the world but the percentage of people here who know what time it is is still a lot lower than it should be.
Let me guess:
Knows what time it is = Agrees with me 100% of the time.
Let me guess:
Knows what time it is = Agrees with me 100% of the time.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 19, 2022 01:06 PM (/NCI4)
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I can't tell what's going on in that video other than people chanting "USA!" and carrying a US flag into the doorway of the Capital.
I really don't know how we survived such brutality.
I really don't know how we survived such brutality.
Posted by: LASue at August 19, 2022 01:06 PM (Ed8Zd)
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290 Honestly, the HoR doesn't do jack shit. They sure as hell don't produce a budget, or control spending. They sure as hell don't craft laws, that's done by K street lobbyists. They're really just a drain on the economy. I'd like to see the next MAGA preznit call a special session and order them to submit a budget that funds the minimum essential government functions and shut everything down until they do. And when they submit a budget for the minimum essential government, everything that isn't funded goes in the crapper.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 19, 2022 01:06 PM (8llgm)
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McCarthy could do this on day one of the next Congress all on his lonesome.
He doesn't do it because he chooses not to.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 19, 2022 01:06 PM (8llgm)
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McCarthy could do this on day one of the next Congress all on his lonesome.
He doesn't do it because he chooses not to.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 19, 2022 01:06 PM (LvTSG)
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The same guys who stood around with their fingers up their asses while kids got murdered in Uvalde? The same guys who couldn't win a war in Afghanistan against a bunch of 7th Century peasants? The same incompetent, cowardly hacks who screwed up literally every armed confrontation of the last 30 years?
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 12:25 PM (iFTx/)
Hey that's not fair - they also screwed up all the diplomatic ventures in that same period too.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 12:25 PM (iFTx/)
Hey that's not fair - they also screwed up all the diplomatic ventures in that same period too.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 19, 2022 01:07 PM (eoQWY)
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No, there will be no national divorce. Face the hard fact - one side has to win, and one side has to lose and be utterly destroyed. No other way out.
I'm afraid that I'm beginning to believe that these terms are acceptable.
No, there will be no national divorce. Face the hard fact - one side has to win, and one side has to lose and be utterly destroyed. No other way out.
I'm afraid that I'm beginning to believe that these terms are acceptable.
Posted by: Motionview, a National Divorcee at August 19, 2022 01:07 PM (9xH94)
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>>> 249 Instead of arms in the street, can't we just go out separate ways?
Posted by: Motionview, a National Divorcee at August 19, 2022 12:58 PM (9xH94)
Do you really think the commies would just ignore the normals living right next to them?
Posted by: Motionview, a National Divorcee at August 19, 2022 12:58 PM (9xH94)
Do you really think the commies would just ignore the normals living right next to them?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 19, 2022 01:07 PM (llON8)
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DIVORCE . Just need to get that punt to sign the papers.
Posted by: polynikes at August 19, 2022 01:07 PM (RH1Zb)
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Those who fall into the "does anyone really care" percentage seems to be rising.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Yep.
At at this point, it's all about being entertained.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Yep.
At at this point, it's all about being entertained.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 19, 2022 01:07 PM (NhLwH)
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It's not all hardware. For most, updating the software requires killing the America they love and replacing it with the unknown. That's a hell of a hard sell to a Normie. It could break a person.
Posted by: Buddy at August 19, 2022 01:05 PM (MFphb)
The America we love is already dead, and it is guaranteed to be replaced by an unknown. So our only real choice is who's going to be in control as the unknown takes form - those who believe there's no such thing as men or women, or the rest of us?
Posted by: Buddy at August 19, 2022 01:05 PM (MFphb)
The America we love is already dead, and it is guaranteed to be replaced by an unknown. So our only real choice is who's going to be in control as the unknown takes form - those who believe there's no such thing as men or women, or the rest of us?
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2022 01:07 PM (trdmm)
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Honestly, the HoR doesn't do jack shit. They sure as hell don't produce a budget, or control spending. They sure as hell don't craft laws, that's done by K street lobbyists. They're really just a drain on the economy. I'd like to see the next MAGA preznit call a special session and order them to submit a budget that funds the minimum essential government functions and shut everything down until they do. And when they submit a budget for the minimum essential government, everything that isn't funded goes in the crapper.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 19, 2022 01:06 PM (8llgm)
We should get ponies, too.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 19, 2022 01:06 PM (8llgm)
We should get ponies, too.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 19, 2022 01:07 PM (yHsuS)
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Oh that's what I get for being slow, you answered your own question!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 19, 2022 01:07 PM (llON8)
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293 Knows what time it is = Agrees with me 100% of the time.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 19, 2022 01:06 PM (/NCI4)
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*considers mentioning Prometheus*
*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*
*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*
Posted by: Archimedes at August 19, 2022 01:06 PM (/NCI4)
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*considers mentioning Prometheus*
*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*
*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 19, 2022 01:07 PM (LvTSG)
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I think there's a difference between opposing trump before he locked down the nomination and opposing him after, that is, supporting Democrats because you're determined the party will remain the property of corporate interests and urban liberal neocons or you'll just destroy it.
That's all true. I still love the final podcast you did with Kurt Schlichter in 2016, which was definitely in that "is Trump for real?" lane.
That's all true. I still love the final podcast you did with Kurt Schlichter in 2016, which was definitely in that "is Trump for real?" lane.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 19, 2022 01:07 PM (ZGrMX)
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>>>This remains one of the best comment sections in the world but the percentage of people here who know what time it is is still a lot lower than it should be.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 01:02 PM (pTl+J)
My lefty buddy asked me last night if I thought Trump would win in 2024, which was a little surprising because we hadn't talked about whether he would even run, up to the point. When my answer was "No" he became a little concerned and then asked why. "Because we're not voting in 2024. We're not making it to 2024." He paused and then decided it was the end of the evening.
They know. They just can't accept it.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 01:02 PM (pTl+J)
My lefty buddy asked me last night if I thought Trump would win in 2024, which was a little surprising because we hadn't talked about whether he would even run, up to the point. When my answer was "No" he became a little concerned and then asked why. "Because we're not voting in 2024. We're not making it to 2024." He paused and then decided it was the end of the evening.
They know. They just can't accept it.
Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at August 19, 2022 01:08 PM (QYPq3)
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No, there will be no national divorce. Face the hard fact - one side has to win, and one side has to lose and be utterly destroyed. No other way out.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2022 01:03 PM (trdmm)
there will be only claims of winning
there will be no winning
only degrees of losing
when you reach my age, you realize this
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2022 01:03 PM (trdmm)
there will be only claims of winning
there will be no winning
only degrees of losing
when you reach my age, you realize this
Posted by: REDACTED at August 19, 2022 01:08 PM (us2H3)
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The FBI committed slews of new crimes to desperately try to overthrow an election for years. That makes them the worst terrorist threat to America by their own definition
Posted by: Who is Brandon Galt? at August 19, 2022 01:08 PM (sqiiD)
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It's not all hardware. For most, updating the software requires killing the America they love and replacing it with the unknown. That's a hell of a hard sell to a Normie. It could break a person.
Posted by: Buddy at August 19, 2022 01:05 PM (MFphb)
That's why the message has to be that the America they love is already dead.
The Azure Sky(Han Empire) is already dead!
Posted by: Buddy at August 19, 2022 01:05 PM (MFphb)
That's why the message has to be that the America they love is already dead.
The Azure Sky(Han Empire) is already dead!
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 19, 2022 01:08 PM (b2nrj)
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>>> 306 >>>This remains one of the best comment sections in the world but the percentage of people here who know what time it is is still a lot lower than it should be.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 01:02 PM (pTl+J)
My lefty buddy asked me last night if I thought Trump would win in 2024, which was a little surprising because we hadn't talked about whether he would even run, up to the point. When my answer was "No" he became a little concerned and then asked why. "Because we're not voting in 2024. We're not making it to 2024." He paused and then decided it was the end of the evening.
They know. They just can't accept it.
Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at August 19, 2022 01:08 PM (QYPq3)
Yoo hoo!
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 01:02 PM (pTl+J)
My lefty buddy asked me last night if I thought Trump would win in 2024, which was a little surprising because we hadn't talked about whether he would even run, up to the point. When my answer was "No" he became a little concerned and then asked why. "Because we're not voting in 2024. We're not making it to 2024." He paused and then decided it was the end of the evening.
They know. They just can't accept it.
Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at August 19, 2022 01:08 PM (QYPq3)
Yoo hoo!
Posted by: WEF at August 19, 2022 01:09 PM (llON8)
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Now maybe I'm drifting off into fantasy, but that is their track record. Making up the rules and law as they go and as it suits their agenda.
Posted by: JROD
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They do Calvinball type laws. The only problem is that the results are unpredictable in courts and that means more scrutiny of actions in broad daylight. Cockroaches pulling this shit delight in anonymity but hate to have their names and faces dragged into public scrutiny. Court battles between courts of appeals and interlocutory appeals do that. Any attempt to serve a DC warrant could be challenged in a local non DC court under habeas corpus alleging a 6th Amendment vicinage violation. The conspirators cannot rely on their friendly DC courts to cover their actions in that case and risk a punitive decision leading to exposure via court processes.
Pretext searches with flimsy rationales are often used in the law enforcement community for such things as asset seizures, a way to search for evidence of other crimes found in 'plain sight', or simply to punish people. This happens at the local level all the way up and is a fundamental corruption of law enforcement.
Posted by: JROD
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They do Calvinball type laws. The only problem is that the results are unpredictable in courts and that means more scrutiny of actions in broad daylight. Cockroaches pulling this shit delight in anonymity but hate to have their names and faces dragged into public scrutiny. Court battles between courts of appeals and interlocutory appeals do that. Any attempt to serve a DC warrant could be challenged in a local non DC court under habeas corpus alleging a 6th Amendment vicinage violation. The conspirators cannot rely on their friendly DC courts to cover their actions in that case and risk a punitive decision leading to exposure via court processes.
Pretext searches with flimsy rationales are often used in the law enforcement community for such things as asset seizures, a way to search for evidence of other crimes found in 'plain sight', or simply to punish people. This happens at the local level all the way up and is a fundamental corruption of law enforcement.
Posted by: whig at August 19, 2022 01:09 PM (CXr4y)
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This remains one of the best comment sections in the world but the percentage of people here who know what time it is is still a lot lower than it should be.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 01:02 PM (pTl+J)
I am reliably informed that it is 25 or 6 to 4.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 19, 2022 01:04 PM (4I/2K)
When I was a kid, before you could look stuff up on the internet, I thought they were singing about City Cross Lake, Idaho
When I found out it was Sitting Cross Legged on the Floor, I thought that made less sense.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 01:02 PM (pTl+J)
I am reliably informed that it is 25 or 6 to 4.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 19, 2022 01:04 PM (4I/2K)
When I was a kid, before you could look stuff up on the internet, I thought they were singing about City Cross Lake, Idaho
When I found out it was Sitting Cross Legged on the Floor, I thought that made less sense.
Posted by: Wally at August 19, 2022 01:09 PM (FJYfm)
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I am reliably informed that it is 25 or 6 to 4.
Incredible Kath solo at 2:58 - https://tinyurl.com/22d8hu93
Incredible Kath solo at 2:58 - https://tinyurl.com/22d8hu93
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 19, 2022 01:09 PM (Xrfse)
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there will be only claims of winning
there will be no winning
only degrees of losing
when you reach my age, you realize this
Posted by: REDACTED at August 19, 2022 01:08 PM (us2H3)
The degrees of losing matter. Franco's Spain is worlds better than Stalin's Russia.
there will be only claims of winning
there will be no winning
only degrees of losing
when you reach my age, you realize this
Posted by: REDACTED at August 19, 2022 01:08 PM (us2H3)
The degrees of losing matter. Franco's Spain is worlds better than Stalin's Russia.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 19, 2022 01:09 PM (b2nrj)
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Honestly, the HoR doesn't do jack shit.
One of the reasons liberals are in high dudgeon about SCOTUS is that Dobbs and other recent decisions are very much in the "hey, Congress, do your damn job" vein.
One of the reasons liberals are in high dudgeon about SCOTUS is that Dobbs and other recent decisions are very much in the "hey, Congress, do your damn job" vein.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 19, 2022 01:09 PM (ZGrMX)
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*the percentage of people here who know what time it is is still a lot lower than it should be.*
Now is the time and that time is now....
Now is the time and that time is now....
Posted by: The guy that moves pianos for a living at August 19, 2022 01:09 PM (7gEpo)
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there will be only claims of winning
there will be no winning
only degrees of losing
when you reach my age, you realize this
Posted by: REDACTED
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Ha!
Beat you to it by twenty years!
there will be no winning
only degrees of losing
when you reach my age, you realize this
Posted by: REDACTED
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Ha!
Beat you to it by twenty years!
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 19, 2022 01:10 PM (NhLwH)
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The same guys who stood around with their fingers up their asses while kids got murdered in Uvalde? The same guys who couldn't win a war in Afghanistan against a bunch of 7th Century peasants? The same incompetent, cowardly hacks who screwed up literally every armed confrontation of the last 30 years?
Posted by: Elric Blade
i'm with Elric in this. these worthless pieces of shit leading stuff have no clue the anger that will get unleashed
The same guys who stood around with their fingers up their asses while kids got murdered in Uvalde? The same guys who couldn't win a war in Afghanistan against a bunch of 7th Century peasants? The same incompetent, cowardly hacks who screwed up literally every armed confrontation of the last 30 years?
Posted by: Elric Blade
i'm with Elric in this. these worthless pieces of shit leading stuff have no clue the anger that will get unleashed
Posted by: BifBewalski @ (MrZQl) - at August 19, 2022 01:10 PM (MrZQl)
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Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at August 19, 2022 01:08 PM (QYPq3)
You have a Lefty buddy?
You have a Lefty buddy?
Posted by: polynikes at August 19, 2022 01:10 PM (RH1Zb)
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The more evil and psychotic the left gets, the more they violate children and destroy political opponents, the more crazy and unhinged they get like that former CIA guy yesterday... the more reasonable and justified armed response becomes on the right.
This is a serious problem we face. Only the most extreme crazy right now thinks that what the left is doing justifies killing. But the worse the left gets, the more that meter moves, if for no other reason than self defense. And nobody wants that. Nobody sane, at least, nobody with any knowledge of history.
But the more extreme you get, the more extreme the push back from people who don't agree with you. Your radical actions and rhetoric are radicalizing your opposition if for no other reason than self preservation.
This is a serious problem we face. Only the most extreme crazy right now thinks that what the left is doing justifies killing. But the worse the left gets, the more that meter moves, if for no other reason than self defense. And nobody wants that. Nobody sane, at least, nobody with any knowledge of history.
But the more extreme you get, the more extreme the push back from people who don't agree with you. Your radical actions and rhetoric are radicalizing your opposition if for no other reason than self preservation.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2022 01:10 PM (Ivdso)
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291 but the percentage of people here who know what time it is is still a lot lower than it should be.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 01:02 PM
Those who fall into the "does anyone really care" percentage seems to be rising.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 19, 2022 01:06 PM (a3Q+t)
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I've been there for a long time. I don't share the optimism of a lot of people, including many commenters here, that there is any way out of this no matter how many political elections we win or how much control we have over Congress or governorships. I think all is lost and actually has BEEN lost for decades. We only just are now seeing it clearly.
I will continue voting for the right candidates. But otherwise I'm just riding out the continued descent into leftwing hell. I hope I am wrong. I just don't think I am.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 01:02 PM
Those who fall into the "does anyone really care" percentage seems to be rising.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 19, 2022 01:06 PM (a3Q+t)
___________________________
I've been there for a long time. I don't share the optimism of a lot of people, including many commenters here, that there is any way out of this no matter how many political elections we win or how much control we have over Congress or governorships. I think all is lost and actually has BEEN lost for decades. We only just are now seeing it clearly.
I will continue voting for the right candidates. But otherwise I'm just riding out the continued descent into leftwing hell. I hope I am wrong. I just don't think I am.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 01:11 PM (iFTx/)
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The standard braindead Don't Know What Time It Is conservazombie is still possessed by a slavish leathergimp fetishization of anything having to do with authority, even when that authority is being used to crush them.
How many now? Polls bandied about around here put the FBI support at 50%. Given the giant hard-on the left currently have for the FBI, conservazombie support has to be much lower.
How many now? Polls bandied about around here put the FBI support at 50%. Given the giant hard-on the left currently have for the FBI, conservazombie support has to be much lower.
Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 19, 2022 01:11 PM (g1EEm)
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Instead of arms in the street, can't we just go out separate ways?
Posted by: Motionview, a National Divorcee at August 19, 2022 12:58 PM (9xH94)
Do you really think the commies would just ignore the normals living right next to them?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 19, 2022 01:07 PM (llON
One does not simply walk away from destroying a nation, enslaving my children and their children with debt, and/or killing/starving/grooming/raping them.
They'll be lucky if they get nothing.
Posted by: Motionview, a National Divorcee at August 19, 2022 12:58 PM (9xH94)
Do you really think the commies would just ignore the normals living right next to them?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 19, 2022 01:07 PM (llON
One does not simply walk away from destroying a nation, enslaving my children and their children with debt, and/or killing/starving/grooming/raping them.
They'll be lucky if they get nothing.
Posted by: Boromir at August 19, 2022 01:11 PM (yHsuS)
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Caught the first few minutes of Hannity a few days ago... was cooking dinner and could not get to the remote to change channels after Tucker...
For the first time, in his open, he condemned the WHOLE FBI... did not try to defend the Line guys. Why? It was a LINE AGENT who took President Trump's Passports.
When ya lost Hannity? wow...
For the first time, in his open, he condemned the WHOLE FBI... did not try to defend the Line guys. Why? It was a LINE AGENT who took President Trump's Passports.
When ya lost Hannity? wow...
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 19, 2022 01:12 PM (oHd/0)
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The biggest loser thus far is the Establishment Republican Party, no? I think the GOP edge in the midterms may start to fade if its voters realize their party leaders will not act against their political persecution and quite frankly endorse it.
Mitch McConnell all but told the rubes yesterday he doesn't care what the November results are as long as he is his so-called "party's" leader and can continue to grift. The honesty was refreshing.
Yes, take names of the kapos and call them out, and try to get rid of them. Agreed there, but the problem still remains Republican indifference/adherence to the totalitarian state.
Mitch McConnell all but told the rubes yesterday he doesn't care what the November results are as long as he is his so-called "party's" leader and can continue to grift. The honesty was refreshing.
Yes, take names of the kapos and call them out, and try to get rid of them. Agreed there, but the problem still remains Republican indifference/adherence to the totalitarian state.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 19, 2022 01:12 PM (nMx88)
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I may not know the exact time but I do know Dr. Pepper is refreshing at 10, 2 or 4.
Posted by: lowandslow at August 19, 2022 01:12 PM (qH6FZ)
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Incredible Kath solo at 2:58
I'll bet the organist and the trombonist were really embarrassed that they both wore the same ghey pink shirt.
I'll bet the organist and the trombonist were really embarrassed that they both wore the same ghey pink shirt.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 19, 2022 01:13 PM (/NCI4)
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316 *the percentage of people here who know what time it is is still a lot lower than it should be.*
Now is the time and that time is now....
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Time Has Come Today!
Now is the time and that time is now....
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Time Has Come Today!
Posted by: Chambers Brothers at August 19, 2022 01:13 PM (HTCOy)
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We must purify the movement! Off with Thomas Sowells head!!!!
Posted by: JROD at August 19, 2022 01:13 PM (0jZnq)
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At at this point, it's all about being entertained.
I think for a lot of people its not so much they're so ignorant or foolish they'd just rather watch Real Housewives of Beverly Hills than deal with the world. Its that they feel helpless and unable to do anything with the real world, so what the hell, ignore it until you cannot because you can't fix it anyway.
I think for a lot of people its not so much they're so ignorant or foolish they'd just rather watch Real Housewives of Beverly Hills than deal with the world. Its that they feel helpless and unable to do anything with the real world, so what the hell, ignore it until you cannot because you can't fix it anyway.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2022 01:13 PM (Ivdso)
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*considers mentioning Prometheus*
*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*
*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 19, 2022 01:07 PM (LvTSG)
Thank you for doing your part. 👍
*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*
*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 19, 2022 01:07 PM (LvTSG)
Thank you for doing your part. 👍
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 19, 2022 01:14 PM (4I/2K)
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>>>We're not making it to 2024.
You added an evil laugh or villainous stare, didn't you. Lie to me, if you must.
You added an evil laugh or villainous stare, didn't you. Lie to me, if you must.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 19, 2022 01:14 PM (yHsuS)
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326 I may not know the exact time but I do know Dr. Pepper is refreshing at 10, 2 or 4.
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Ever play Dr. Pepper Poker?
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Ever play Dr. Pepper Poker?
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 19, 2022 01:14 PM (HTCOy)
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Let me guess:
Knows what time it is = Agrees with me 100% of the time.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 19, 2022 01:06 PM (/NCI4)
LOL I am one of the *last* people who cares whether someone agrees with me. I get along with almost everyone, and respect people who have an independent mind. People who disagreed with me force me to look at things in another way.
I even love ace despite his gurgling bubbling "issues" with Trump. I defend Xiden FFS. So... you're way off base.
When I say "knows what time it is" I am referring to awareness of a very specific set of things/rules that are either present or missing in our world. Agreement doesn't mean shit to me.
Knows what time it is = Agrees with me 100% of the time.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 19, 2022 01:06 PM (/NCI4)
LOL I am one of the *last* people who cares whether someone agrees with me. I get along with almost everyone, and respect people who have an independent mind. People who disagreed with me force me to look at things in another way.
I even love ace despite his gurgling bubbling "issues" with Trump. I defend Xiden FFS. So... you're way off base.
When I say "knows what time it is" I am referring to awareness of a very specific set of things/rules that are either present or missing in our world. Agreement doesn't mean shit to me.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 01:14 PM (pTl+J)
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I've been there for a long time. I don't share the optimism of a lot of people, including many commenters here, that there is any way out of this no matter how many political elections we win or how much control we have over Congress or governorships. I think all is lost and actually has BEEN lost for decades. We only just are now seeing it clearly."
See I am much more optimistic - I think we are going to be able to destroy our enemies completely, and it will be glorious! Now the country itself - oh yeah, it's toast, there's no saving that. But I think we'll be in charge of the ashes. Those of us that are still around, I mean.
See I am much more optimistic - I think we are going to be able to destroy our enemies completely, and it will be glorious! Now the country itself - oh yeah, it's toast, there's no saving that. But I think we'll be in charge of the ashes. Those of us that are still around, I mean.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2022 01:14 PM (trdmm)
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Does anybody really know what time it is?
Does anybody really care, about the time?
Does anybody really care, about the time?
Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2022 01:14 PM (Vr12I)
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I think there's a difference between opposing trump before he locked down the nomination and opposing him after
Yes; Sowell explicitly supported Trump over Hillary in 2016 and Trump over Biden in 2020.
Yes; Sowell explicitly supported Trump over Hillary in 2016 and Trump over Biden in 2020.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 19, 2022 01:14 PM (U+Oxn)
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When people talk about what time it is, it's a fundamental issue. If you can't agree on that, it doesn't much matter what percentage of things you *do* agree about.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 19, 2022 01:15 PM (IXpV7)
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The article is subtitled A look at the FBI’s last six years shows a pattern of irredeemable corruption and is all about the Eff.Bee.EYE's efforts to get OrangeManBad. If anything Dems would be thrilled at the FBI's efforts to "fortify law enforcement". It *might* be useful for non-Dems who are stuck in 2003.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 19, 2022 01:05 PM (llON
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They discuss other cases that Dems might sympathize with, like Pulse nightclub, Larry Nassar, James Rosen, Martha Stewart and more.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 19, 2022 01:05 PM (llON
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They discuss other cases that Dems might sympathize with, like Pulse nightclub, Larry Nassar, James Rosen, Martha Stewart and more.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 19, 2022 01:15 PM (NpAcC)
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Right. I think Sowell would have a very different take on Trump if you asked him now. I mean, Candidate Trump was talking about universal healthcare and palled around with the Clintons, it was not unreasonable to distrust and dislike the bombastic egotistical reality show host with a string of former sleazy adulteries in his past. What we know now is very different from what we knew then.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Economists have a fundamental flaw in that homo economicus aka rational decisionmakers do not exist. Sowell, like others, have marinated in economics so long that they forget that culture comes first and politics and economics come downstream from that.
Economists have perpetually believed that economics will triumph over human behavior, international relations, and domestic politics. And every time they have been astonished as events prove that it not so. Macroeconomics is largely a matter of belief systems rather than rigorous analysis and only microeconomics has a firm base of prices as empirical support.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Economists have a fundamental flaw in that homo economicus aka rational decisionmakers do not exist. Sowell, like others, have marinated in economics so long that they forget that culture comes first and politics and economics come downstream from that.
Economists have perpetually believed that economics will triumph over human behavior, international relations, and domestic politics. And every time they have been astonished as events prove that it not so. Macroeconomics is largely a matter of belief systems rather than rigorous analysis and only microeconomics has a firm base of prices as empirical support.
Posted by: whig at August 19, 2022 01:15 PM (CXr4y)
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>>>You have a Lefty buddy?
Posted by: polynikes at August 19, 2022 01:10 PM (RH1Zb)
Indeed. We are very good friends and each knows the other would do whatever for the other. We can debate and argue, but it never gets in the way.
Posted by: polynikes at August 19, 2022 01:10 PM (RH1Zb)
Indeed. We are very good friends and each knows the other would do whatever for the other. We can debate and argue, but it never gets in the way.
Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at August 19, 2022 01:15 PM (QYPq3)
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U.S District Court Judge Steven Merryday issued a blistering rebuke of the Department of Defense and Marine Corps for refusing to grant religious accommodation requests to service members.
Merryday did so when issuing a 48-page ruling Thursday in which he granted class action status for all active and reserve U.S. Marine Corps service men and women in a lawsuit filed against the Secretary of Defense over the department's COVID-19 vaccine mandate.
He also issued a classwide preliminary injunction against the Department of Defense and the U.S. Marine Corps, prohibiting them "from enforcing against a member of the class any order, requirement, or rule to accept COVID-19 vaccination; from separating or discharging from the Marine Corps a member of the class who declines COVID-19 vaccination; and from retaliating against a member of the class for the member's asserting statutory rights under RFRA [Religious Freedom Restoration Act]."
Merryday did so when issuing a 48-page ruling Thursday in which he granted class action status for all active and reserve U.S. Marine Corps service men and women in a lawsuit filed against the Secretary of Defense over the department's COVID-19 vaccine mandate.
He also issued a classwide preliminary injunction against the Department of Defense and the U.S. Marine Corps, prohibiting them "from enforcing against a member of the class any order, requirement, or rule to accept COVID-19 vaccination; from separating or discharging from the Marine Corps a member of the class who declines COVID-19 vaccination; and from retaliating against a member of the class for the member's asserting statutory rights under RFRA [Religious Freedom Restoration Act]."
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 19, 2022 01:15 PM (5p7BC)
Posted by: Inspector Krogh at August 19, 2022 01:15 PM (v0R5T)
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Ever play Dr. Pepper Poker?
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 19, 2022 01:14 PM (HTCOy)
I'll bite, what is it?
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 19, 2022 01:14 PM (HTCOy)
I'll bite, what is it?
Posted by: lowandslow at August 19, 2022 01:15 PM (qH6FZ)
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Speaking of the Ukranians....How come the so clled President can just choose to send copious amounts of money and weapons there without any kind of Congressional permission. I thought only the House can start money flowing. Does he have some kind of emergency authority to do this?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 19, 2022 12:45 PM (Y+l9t)
Most if not all of the stuff sent was from current stocks, so you don't need money to build them, but to replace them after the fact. Some cash can be redirected from other stashes. Again a lot of the "Ukranian money" was to defense contractors in the US to replace stocks sent to Ukraine, and a good chunk of the rest was to go to NGO groups there who would likely steal the money and redirect it back to the elites here. I imagine some Ukranians got a cut, but a small one.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 19, 2022 12:45 PM (Y+l9t)
Most if not all of the stuff sent was from current stocks, so you don't need money to build them, but to replace them after the fact. Some cash can be redirected from other stashes. Again a lot of the "Ukranian money" was to defense contractors in the US to replace stocks sent to Ukraine, and a good chunk of the rest was to go to NGO groups there who would likely steal the money and redirect it back to the elites here. I imagine some Ukranians got a cut, but a small one.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 19, 2022 01:16 PM (eoQWY)
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See I am much more optimistic - I think we are going to be able to destroy our enemies completely, and it will be glorious! Now the country itself - oh yeah, it's toast, there's no saving that. But I think we'll be in charge of the ashes. Those of us that are still around, I mean.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2022 01:14 PM (trdmm)
Yeah analyzing it as a military question it's very likely the left loses. Unfortunately in most scenarios the leaders of the right then fight each other with different visions of a new country.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2022 01:14 PM (trdmm)
Yeah analyzing it as a military question it's very likely the left loses. Unfortunately in most scenarios the leaders of the right then fight each other with different visions of a new country.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 19, 2022 01:16 PM (b2nrj)
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I don't think you can fully judge a thee letter agency without looking at the positive qualities of the people in it. The FBI has a long-standing tradition of existence to its members and to the community at large.
Posted by: Christopher Wray, FBI Director at August 19, 2022 01:16 PM (4I/2K)
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344 Ever play Dr. Pepper Poker?
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 19, 2022 01:14 PM (HTCOy)
I'll bite, what is it?
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Seven card draw with 10s, 2s and 4s as wild cards. It will fuck up your head.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 19, 2022 01:14 PM (HTCOy)
I'll bite, what is it?
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Seven card draw with 10s, 2s and 4s as wild cards. It will fuck up your head.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 19, 2022 01:16 PM (HTCOy)
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The moron horde is clearly well informed. The group that constantly surprises me with their detailed knowledge of the political situation is the homeschool moms. They are on it, admittedly with fewer penis jokes.
Posted by: Motionview, a National Divorcee at August 19, 2022 01:17 PM (9xH94)
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Instead of arms in the street, can't we just go out separate ways?
Posted by: Motionview, a National Divorcee
So only their half of the boat sinks?
Posted by: Motionview, a National Divorcee
So only their half of the boat sinks?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 19, 2022 01:17 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 19, 2022 01:17 PM (sWM8x)
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@311 whig-I'm thinking you can work out a deal with ace and start charging people for your response. If I see a envelope in the mail addressed from whig with a bill inside, I won't be surprised.
Posted by: JROD at August 19, 2022 01:17 PM (0jZnq)
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337 I think there's a difference between opposing trump before he locked down the nomination and opposing him after
Yes; Sowell explicitly supported Trump over Hillary in 2016 and Trump over Biden in 2020.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 19, 2022 01:14 PM (U+Oxn)
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It may seem like 500 years ago, but MANY good solid conservatives supported Cruz over Trump in the primaries. Personally, I was on the fence. I liked them both for different reasons. At the time, there were indeed big questions as to how conservative Trump would really be.
Yes; Sowell explicitly supported Trump over Hillary in 2016 and Trump over Biden in 2020.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 19, 2022 01:14 PM (U+Oxn)
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It may seem like 500 years ago, but MANY good solid conservatives supported Cruz over Trump in the primaries. Personally, I was on the fence. I liked them both for different reasons. At the time, there were indeed big questions as to how conservative Trump would really be.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 01:17 PM (iFTx/)
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Agreement doesn't mean shit to me.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 01:14 PM (pTl+J)
I disagree.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 01:14 PM (pTl+J)
I disagree.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 19, 2022 01:17 PM (yHsuS)
Posted by: JT at August 19, 2022 01:17 PM (T4tVD)
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345 Speaking of the Ukranians....How come the so clled President can just choose to send copious amounts of money and weapons there without any kind of Congressional permission. I thought only the House can start money flowing. Does he have some kind of emergency authority to do this?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 19, 2022 12:45 PM (Y+l9t)
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Ukraine is the 51st State. The CIA says so.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 19, 2022 12:45 PM (Y+l9t)
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Ukraine is the 51st State. The CIA says so.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 19, 2022 01:17 PM (HTCOy)
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We were all doing a tour of the comments here and talking about the significance of the passage of time right. The significance of the passage of time, so when you think about it there is great significance to passage of time, there is such great significance to the passage of time when you think of a thread in the life of this blog.
Posted by: Kamala "Comma-la" Harris at August 19, 2022 01:17 PM (a3Q+t)
358
Admittedly and shamefully I'm currently in they came for the Jews and I did nothing camp . Living in Texas you don't experience quite the hell some of the Blue and Purple states do. Nothing has happened to me directly or even indirectly that is any different than the same old crap that went on 20 or 30 years ago. I just read about it mostly here.
Posted by: polynikes at August 19, 2022 01:18 PM (RH1Zb)
359
3 mile deep DMZ.
Posted by: North and South Korea Model at August 19, 2022 01:18 PM (9FBGz)
360
Nood monkeypox.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 19, 2022 01:18 PM (b2nrj)
361
Daughter is 30. She has always been an optimistic capitalist with liberal social inclinations.
She called the other night and said “when can we burn D.C. and the entire government down?”
I was pleasantly shocked. 😮
She called the other night and said “when can we burn D.C. and the entire government down?”
I was pleasantly shocked. 😮
Posted by: Carmenzoid at August 19, 2022 01:18 PM (uErkz)
362
Any parents who home school are very much more likely to be aware of events and cultural evils simply because they chose to home school. Parents who continue to send their kids to ghastly and destructive public schools despite all evidence that they are evil and ruining children are less likely to be so well informed or concerned.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2022 01:18 PM (Ivdso)
363
Does anybody really know what time it is?
Does anybody really care, about the time?
Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2022 01:14 PM (Vr12I)
Well, it keeps on slippin'
Into the future.
Does anybody really care, about the time?
Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2022 01:14 PM (Vr12I)
Well, it keeps on slippin'
Into the future.
Posted by: Steve Miller at August 19, 2022 01:18 PM (4I/2K)
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Agreement doesn't mean shit to me.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 01:14 PM (pTl+J)
I disagree.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 19, 2022 01:17 PM (yHsuS)
I always said you were an asshole who doesn't know what time it is.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 01:14 PM (pTl+J)
I disagree.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 19, 2022 01:17 PM (yHsuS)
I always said you were an asshole who doesn't know what time it is.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 01:18 PM (pTl+J)
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There are still parts of the country that know what time it is and are moving in the right direction. I refuse to believe all is lost as so many of you seem to think.
Yes, I am a glass half full girl.
On that note, going to work on my gainzzz, get my endorphins up and enjoy life.
Yes, I am a glass half full girl.
On that note, going to work on my gainzzz, get my endorphins up and enjoy life.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 19, 2022 01:19 PM (Y+l9t)
366
350 Instead of arms in the street, can't we just go out separate ways?
Posted by: Motionview, a National Divorcee
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Its the Lincoln Rule - if your wife files for divorce you are allowed to kill her to preserve the union.
Posted by: Motionview, a National Divorcee
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Its the Lincoln Rule - if your wife files for divorce you are allowed to kill her to preserve the union.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 19, 2022 01:19 PM (HTCOy)
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17 Anyone criticizing the FBI needs to be accidentally shot in the face.
Posted by: Alec Baldwin at August 19, 2022 12:15 PM (yMAlj)
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Hey, that's my line and MO !
Posted by: Alec Baldwin at August 19, 2022 12:15 PM (yMAlj)
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Hey, that's my line and MO !
Posted by: Dick Cheney at August 19, 2022 01:19 PM (qfLjt)
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Economists have perpetually believed that economics will triumph over human behavior, international relations, and domestic politics. And every time they have been astonished as events prove that it not so. Macroeconomics is largely a matter of belief systems rather than rigorous analysis and only microeconomics has a firm base of prices as empirical support.
Posted by: whig at August 19, 2022 01:15 PM (CXr4y)
I took my Econ 101 course in college in 1979. The prof got to the part "proving" that inflation and unemployment were opposites and having one meant having none of the other. At that date inflation was at some 20 percent and unemployment was spiking. I dismissed the subject as crank science and moved on.
Later I read some non-standard, better books by the Austrian school on my own but I still hear masses of garbage coming from my betters.
Economists have perpetually believed that economics will triumph over human behavior, international relations, and domestic politics. And every time they have been astonished as events prove that it not so. Macroeconomics is largely a matter of belief systems rather than rigorous analysis and only microeconomics has a firm base of prices as empirical support.
Posted by: whig at August 19, 2022 01:15 PM (CXr4y)
I took my Econ 101 course in college in 1979. The prof got to the part "proving" that inflation and unemployment were opposites and having one meant having none of the other. At that date inflation was at some 20 percent and unemployment was spiking. I dismissed the subject as crank science and moved on.
Later I read some non-standard, better books by the Austrian school on my own but I still hear masses of garbage coming from my betters.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 19, 2022 01:20 PM (eoQWY)
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>>> 329 We must purify the movement! Off with Thomas Sowells head!!!!
Posted by: JROD at August 19, 2022 01:13 PM (0jZnq)
Hey, I'm standing right here!
I never said anything beyond that I was disappointed, and I missed the rather important detail that the cover in question was from before the *2016* nomination. Back then I was wondering wtf Trump was about, so probably not that far from Sowell.
Posted by: JROD at August 19, 2022 01:13 PM (0jZnq)
Hey, I'm standing right here!
I never said anything beyond that I was disappointed, and I missed the rather important detail that the cover in question was from before the *2016* nomination. Back then I was wondering wtf Trump was about, so probably not that far from Sowell.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 19, 2022 01:20 PM (llON8)
370
The America we love is already dead, and it is guaranteed to be replaced by an unknown. So our only real choice is who's going to be in control as the unknown takes form - those who believe there's no such thing as men or women, or the rest of us?
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2022 01:07 PM (trdmm)
Your software has been updated.
But the rest of your comment is why the resistance to the update is so firm.
See that blurb about the People who Just wanted to be left Alone.
Admitting its over.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1tqndb7M_I
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2022 01:07 PM (trdmm)
Your software has been updated.
But the rest of your comment is why the resistance to the update is so firm.
See that blurb about the People who Just wanted to be left Alone.
Admitting its over.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1tqndb7M_I
Posted by: Buddy at August 19, 2022 01:20 PM (MFphb)
Posted by: polynikes at August 19, 2022 01:21 PM (RH1Zb)
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>>> 339 The article is subtitled A look at the FBI’s last six years shows a pattern of irredeemable corruption and is all about the Eff.Bee.EYE's efforts to get OrangeManBad. If anything Dems would be thrilled at the FBI's efforts to "fortify law enforcement". It *might* be useful for non-Dems who are stuck in 2003.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 19, 2022 01:05 PM (llON
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They discuss other cases that Dems might sympathize with, like Pulse nightclub, Larry Nassar, James Rosen, Martha Stewart and more.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 19, 2022 01:15 PM (NpAcC)
Are you telling me I should have read the content (instead of skimming)???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 19, 2022 01:05 PM (llON
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They discuss other cases that Dems might sympathize with, like Pulse nightclub, Larry Nassar, James Rosen, Martha Stewart and more.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 19, 2022 01:15 PM (NpAcC)
Are you telling me I should have read the content (instead of skimming)???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 19, 2022 01:22 PM (llON8)
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Time, flowing like a river
Time, beckoning me
Who knows when we shall meet again
If ever
But time
Keeps flowing like a river
To the sea
Time, beckoning me
Who knows when we shall meet again
If ever
But time
Keeps flowing like a river
To the sea
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2022 01:22 PM (Ivdso)
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312 This remains one of the best comment sections in the world but the percentage of people here who know what time it is is still a lot lower than it should be.
Posted by: ...
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Because no person in their right mind welcomes massive bloodletting that could result. And fewer still would care to put that opinion into an open forum. In the past, there has been no hot civil war in a country with nuclear weapons. In part, the dissolution of the Sov Union was probably more peaceable simply because nuclear weapons were distributed throughout the former nation. But, that has a predictive power of a single case.
In addition, the blues and reds in this case that are really becoming separate nations are more similar to the partition of India than the USSR. Then you have the mixed nature of families--a number of the commenters here have family members that are deep blue and due to geographic mobility are scattered across the US.
Posted by: ...
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Because no person in their right mind welcomes massive bloodletting that could result. And fewer still would care to put that opinion into an open forum. In the past, there has been no hot civil war in a country with nuclear weapons. In part, the dissolution of the Sov Union was probably more peaceable simply because nuclear weapons were distributed throughout the former nation. But, that has a predictive power of a single case.
In addition, the blues and reds in this case that are really becoming separate nations are more similar to the partition of India than the USSR. Then you have the mixed nature of families--a number of the commenters here have family members that are deep blue and due to geographic mobility are scattered across the US.
Posted by: whig at August 19, 2022 01:23 PM (CXr4y)
375
…but MANY good solid conservatives supported Cruz over Trump in the primaries
Not a surprise to me; I was one of them. I even supported Walker or Fiorina over Trump, and that was laughably wrong.
Not a surprise to me; I was one of them. I even supported Walker or Fiorina over Trump, and that was laughably wrong.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 19, 2022 01:23 PM (U+Oxn)
376
She called the other night and said “when can we burn D.C. and the entire government down?”
I was pleasantly shocked. 😮
Posted by: Carmenzoid at August 19, 2022 01:18 PM (uErkz)
Marriage material.
I always said you were an asshole who doesn't know what time it is.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 01:18 PM (pTl+J)
Agree to disagree.
I was pleasantly shocked. 😮
Posted by: Carmenzoid at August 19, 2022 01:18 PM (uErkz)
Marriage material.
I always said you were an asshole who doesn't know what time it is.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 01:18 PM (pTl+J)
Agree to disagree.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 19, 2022 01:24 PM (yHsuS)
377
344 Ever play Dr. Pepper Poker?
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Fours, Whores, and Mustache Growers.
Fours, queens, two jacks, and three kings are wild.
Typically called as, "Fours, Whores, and Mustache Growers. An Ace up gets you an extra card in the hole."
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Fours, Whores, and Mustache Growers.
Fours, queens, two jacks, and three kings are wild.
Typically called as, "Fours, Whores, and Mustache Growers. An Ace up gets you an extra card in the hole."
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 19, 2022 01:26 PM (sWM8x)
378
I took my Econ 101 course in college in 1979. The prof got to the part "proving" that inflation and unemployment were opposites and having one meant having none of the other. At that date inflation was at some 20 percent and unemployment was spiking. I dismissed the subject as crank science and moved on.
Later I read some non-standard, better books by the Austrian school on my own but I still hear masses of garbage coming from my betters. Posted by: Oldcat
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You should. There are very few economic historians in the field and the dominance of mathematics and theory over practice has relegated historical and non-mathematical types to the status of non-entities.
Later I read some non-standard, better books by the Austrian school on my own but I still hear masses of garbage coming from my betters. Posted by: Oldcat
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You should. There are very few economic historians in the field and the dominance of mathematics and theory over practice has relegated historical and non-mathematical types to the status of non-entities.
Posted by: whig at August 19, 2022 01:27 PM (CXr4y)
379
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 19, 2022 01:26 PM (sWM8x)
Usually takes five aces to win.
Usually takes five aces to win.
Posted by: polynikes at August 19, 2022 01:27 PM (RH1Zb)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 19, 2022 01:30 PM (sWM8x)
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Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 19, 2022 01:26 PM (sWM8x)
And I knew Dr Pepper poker as 2's 10's and 4's were wild. Those are the numbers on the Dr Pepper bottle
And I knew Dr Pepper poker as 2's 10's and 4's were wild. Those are the numbers on the Dr Pepper bottle
Posted by: polynikes at August 19, 2022 01:30 PM (RH1Zb)
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[takes dollar, looks around furtively]
Word on the street is, everything on the redacted affidavit with a black line through it, wasn't necessarily a filled-in space.
Word on the street is, everything on the redacted affidavit with a black line through it, wasn't necessarily a filled-in space.
Posted by: Johnny the Shoeshine Guy at August 19, 2022 01:30 PM (VDLxK)
383
Sowell has written extensively on cultural and historical issues, he's not a locked-in economics wonk.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2022 01:31 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2022 01:33 PM (pTl+J)
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It may seem like 500 years ago, but MANY good solid conservatives supported Cruz over Trump in the primaries. Personally, I was on the fence. I liked them both for different reasons. At the time, there were indeed big questions as to how conservative Trump would really be.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 01:17 PM (iFTx/)
I didn't support Cruz in 2016 but didn't hate him. That's all changed. I probably hate that guy more than any other Senator. He's so fake he makes me want puke.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 19, 2022 01:17 PM (iFTx/)
I didn't support Cruz in 2016 but didn't hate him. That's all changed. I probably hate that guy more than any other Senator. He's so fake he makes me want puke.
Posted by: lowandslow at August 19, 2022 01:33 PM (qH6FZ)
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And I knew Dr Pepper poker as 2's 10's and 4's were wild. Those are the numbers on the Dr Pepper bottle
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That's how we played it too. Then there's Baseball: 3's and 9's are wild and a 4 up gets you an extra card in the hole.
And don't get me started on Indian poker...
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That's how we played it too. Then there's Baseball: 3's and 9's are wild and a 4 up gets you an extra card in the hole.
And don't get me started on Indian poker...
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 19, 2022 01:34 PM (sWM8x)
387
I'm making over $13k a month working part time. I kept hearing other people tell me how much money they can make online so I decided to look into it. Well, it was all true and has totally changed my life.
This is what I do... http://www.salarycash1.com
This is what I do... http://www.salarycash1.com
Posted by: Sarah at August 19, 2022 01:35 PM (ublm2)
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383 Sowell has written extensively on cultural and historical issues, he's not a locked-in economics wonk.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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CRT, I was educated as an economist and have read Sowell's work. But, he still comes from the rational behavior type of background because that is who he is. My practical political experiences in my salad days indicate that is too limited of a perspective of human behavior.
Rothbard and believe it or not Marx were far better economic historians than is Sowell. I disagree with their conclusions but still find their histories quite useful.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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CRT, I was educated as an economist and have read Sowell's work. But, he still comes from the rational behavior type of background because that is who he is. My practical political experiences in my salad days indicate that is too limited of a perspective of human behavior.
Rothbard and believe it or not Marx were far better economic historians than is Sowell. I disagree with their conclusions but still find their histories quite useful.
Posted by: whig at August 19, 2022 01:38 PM (CXr4y)
389
Redactions don't work. If you hold the paper up to the light you can usually make out what's written underneath.
Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 19, 2022 12:55 PM (g1EEm)
My dear boy. That is why you first wield the sharpie, and then only supply a fotocopy of the marked up sheet
Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 19, 2022 12:55 PM (g1EEm)
My dear boy. That is why you first wield the sharpie, and then only supply a fotocopy of the marked up sheet
Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2022 01:42 PM (xhaym)
390
Instead of arms in the street, can't we just go out separate ways?
Posted by: Motionview, a National Divorcee at August 19, 2022 12:58 PM (9xH94)
Probably not, that will be as bloody.
I think we need a convention of states, that is the safest. everything on the table and 100% agreement for anything to pass.
Posted by: Motionview, a National Divorcee at August 19, 2022 12:58 PM (9xH94)
Probably not, that will be as bloody.
I think we need a convention of states, that is the safest. everything on the table and 100% agreement for anything to pass.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2022 01:44 PM (xhaym)
391
Awaken with JP has a funny video up about the FBI being like a bug infestation, with tips on keeping them away.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 19, 2022 01:45 PM (x6HrW)
392
In think FeeBeeEye has an image problem:
"The raid by the Federal Bureau of Investigation on former President Donald Trump’s home has damaged the agency's standing with Republican and independent voters, according to a new poll, which found that a majority agree with the idea that it has become 'Biden's Gestapo.'"
"The raid by the Federal Bureau of Investigation on former President Donald Trump’s home has damaged the agency's standing with Republican and independent voters, according to a new poll, which found that a majority agree with the idea that it has become 'Biden's Gestapo.'"
Posted by: runner at August 19, 2022 01:49 PM (KszI0)
393
The moron horde is clearly well informed. The group that constantly surprises me with their detailed knowledge of the political situation is the homeschool moms. They are on it, admittedly with fewer penis jokes.
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Guess that's strike one against the homeschooling mom's then isn't it?
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Guess that's strike one against the homeschooling mom's then isn't it?
Posted by: The morons, smugly at August 19, 2022 02:06 PM (esTr6)
394
*considers mentioning Prometheus*
I'll never understand why she didn't zag to the right or left.
I'll never understand why she didn't zag to the right or left.
Posted by: Bosk at August 19, 2022 02:12 PM (v4L7Y)
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Which again begs the question, why now? At least with Ukraine, there was a phone call showing Trump was threatening the grift. There wasn't a hint that Trump was about to release anything. So, why now?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 19, 2022 12:22 PM (KbCG3)
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Desperate people do stupid things. That's where they are now.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 19, 2022 12:22 PM (KbCG3)
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Desperate people do stupid things. That's where they are now.
Posted by: Black JEM at August 19, 2022 02:41 PM (xWZcb)
396
Let's hear more about Tarik Khalid. Sheeeeeezzze.
Posted by: mercury at August 19, 2022 03:25 PM (cT+i/)
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KUDOS to AOS for continuing to reporting on this important story. The Epoch Times just wrote my conclusion this morning to an article I'm writing on the Raid at Mar-a-Loma.
For more background see my articles at the American Thinker under the name Ron Wright.
For more background see my articles at the American Thinker under the name Ron Wright.
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