Covid: An After-Action Report

Well, that was fun!

Five days in the hospital for Wuhan flu doesn’t sound great, but I am very glad I had access to a good community hospital with good nursing and an experienced staff that has seen tons of the disease. My county has been the hardest hit in my state, so I guess I am a bit lucky.

Contrary to the ignorant reports of overwhelmed ERs (lines outside don’t mean anything), my experience was impressive. Triage was perfect. There were lots of typical ER visitors (sprains and sniffles and nausea… ) wandering around, but they were placed at the back of the line. I was seen almost immediately, and within 10 or 15 minutes was put in a private room and given a PCR test to confirm the rapid test. That took about an hour, and I was then treated with the hospital’s standard protocol and moved to the Covid wing.

Most of my crushing and awful symptoms rapidly moderated, which was impressive. And very possibly coincidence, but there is no way to know. I was left with profound fatigue, a cough from hell, and clear instructions to use the damned spirometer as much as I could. But as some of you know, hospitals are nothing if not boring and uncomfortable, so that was my entertainment! But please; don’t ask about the food!

One thing I found fascinating and not a little depressing was the real time information available to me via the much-touted electronic medical information systems that are going to revolutionize medical care. Unfortunately the systems in use where I am are an absolute catastrophe…filled with inaccurate information (in real time!) and glaringly obvious cut & pastes by physicians, nurses and clerks. Wrong data about medications, inaccurate descriptions of physical exams, time stamps that are obviously incorrect, and that was from a casual perusal over several days.

Obviously many of those errors are not specific to electronic data…doctors and nurses and clerks make mistakes regardless. But the replication of errors is made effortless by electronic records, and while a cut & paste of a physical exam that wasn’t done on Tuesday may mean nothing, one can imagine that sometimes it can be a very big deal. Any medical malpractice attorney with two functioning synapses would have a field day with these sort of errors, not to mention the undeniable fact that this simply isn’t good medicine.

The larger question for me during this experience is whether the vaccine I got 10 months before had conferred any residual immunity. Clearly, based on the data, the immune response fades over time, so was I protected at all? I have no idea, but what I am quite pleased with is being fit and of normal weight. I was far to the right on the Covid Severity graph, and there is no explanation for that other than the randomness of the disease, but I imagine I would have fared worse had I been fat and unfit.

Could have I avoided hospitalization were other therapies available to me? Perhaps. Monoclonal Antibodies were not available, but neither would they have been the first choice because of the severity of my symptoms. HCQ and Ivermectin? The data on HCQ is sort of crappy, although because it is quite safe there is no particular need for it to be strictly controlled. Ivermectin is another case entirely, with its use a disgusting political football. Other countries have had good outcomes with it, and it is undeniably a safe drug, so absent clear and convincing evidence that it does not work, there is no medical reason for its restriction.

The politics of medicine has roared to the forefront, with the vaccines presented as the Holy Grail against Covid, and Ivermectin and a few other therapies presented by an insanely partisan media as some sort of nefarious plot by the far right to undermine SCIENCE^TM.

A rational analysis of the science, without the vile politics and craven behavior of the bureaucracy in support of their partners in Pharma, or the craziness of the anti-vax purity brigade yields some pretty basic facts.

The vaccines are modestly effective but their protection fades over time.
The vaccines should be given to high-risk people first, and then to the general population.
The risk-benefit analysis strongly suggests that the vaccine should not be given to children.
The virus is rapidly mutating (as most viruses do) to a more infectious and benign form.
The current vaccines are probably not as effective against the current strains.
There are mature, very safe medications that seem to be of benefit against Covid that should be considered for use, just like the other new high-priced therapies that don’t have the safety records of the older medications.

Pharma will do what any corporation will do…maximize profit. I have no problem with that. What I have a huge problem with is the revolving door between government regulators and cushy jobs in Pharma, and even worse, the ability of regulators and our oh-so-honest politicians to profit from investments in the very companies they regulate.

Until the blatant corruption in the system is minimized we cannot trust the basic science being used in support of therapies recommended by our government medical bureaucracy. It is profoundly, irreparably corrupt, and until it is burned to the ground and rebuilt with high walls between Pharma and government we will continue to see these insane disconnects between good medicine and government action.

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM

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1 This is going to make some ill

Posted by: Skip at January 16, 2022 12:01 PM (2JoB8)

2 2nd!

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at January 16, 2022 12:04 PM (BMmaB)

3 I was left with profound fatigue, a cough from hell, and clear instructions to use the damned spirometer as much as I could.
*****

People underestimate the value of spirometers and deep breathing.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 12:04 PM (ONvIw)

4 When the money dries up, COVID goes away. Until then....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 16, 2022 12:05 PM (BFigT)

5 Glad you are doing better and now get back to work.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 16, 2022 12:05 PM (R/m4+)

6 The conclusion we can draw is that Nevergiveup is strong like bull with super immunity to everything since I shared a meal with CBD the day before and came out feeling MARVELOUS!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 12:06 PM (Irn0L)

7 This piece would be much more helpful if you actually listed the treatments you received under that hospital's "standard covid protocol". As in specific drugs prescribed to you, etc.

Posted by: Will at January 16, 2022 12:06 PM (YA4S8)

8 I am so glad I did not end up in the hospital.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 12:07 PM (KfrSF)

9 Thanks for your story CBD, your case seems better than many.
I'm still playing the odds no mask no Fake Vax.

Posted by: Skip at January 16, 2022 12:07 PM (2JoB8)

10 The conclusion we can draw is that Nevergiveup is strong like bull with super immunity to everything since I shared a meal with CBD the day before and came out feeling MARVELOUS!
Posted by: Nevergiveup
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Probably the result of well-disciplined mastication habits.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 16, 2022 12:07 PM (kFA7a)

11 Salt Lake City Tribune op-ed calls for National Guard to keep unvaccinated people in their homes

Posted by: DB at January 16, 2022 12:07 PM (geLO8)

12 NGU many stories last year of a family member getting it yet close contact didn't spread it.

Posted by: Skip at January 16, 2022 12:09 PM (2JoB8)

13 Glad you are better, CBD.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 16, 2022 12:09 PM (Xrfse)

14 A very good movie is The Hospital with George C Scott. Will make you want to avoid going at all costs.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 16, 2022 12:09 PM (RJMSR)

15 I had the horrible fatigue, and the horrible cough. But I did deep breathing and trying to cough everything out anytime I was awake. That helped. I lost my taste and smell and that hasn't returned but I've been told that can be months.

Posted by: Megthered at January 16, 2022 12:09 PM (3D8Os)

16 B"H on your healing and welcome back.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 16, 2022 12:11 PM (EZebt)

17 Well said. I am a doctor and prescribed HCQ for my children before it was demonized. My younger son refused vaccination and had covid before Christmas, which he described as "a bad cold" plus fatigue as you describe. I read Scott Atlas' book and am reading RFK Jr's book. The corruption at NIH and CDC is nauseating.

Posted by: Mike K at January 16, 2022 12:11 PM (o3Ds4)

18 I know you were vaxxed. Did you also have the booster?

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 16, 2022 12:11 PM (RJMSR)

19 Glad you've recovered, CBD.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 16, 2022 12:11 PM (U2p+3)

20 When the money dries up, COVID goes away. Until then....
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 16, 2022 12:05 PM (BFigT)

I think what we're seeing is that Pfizer is going to make Pfsure the Pfmoney never Pfdries up.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 16, 2022 12:11 PM (I4LyL)

21 Glad you are recovering, CBD. Did anyone else in your family come down with it?

Posted by: Ben Had at January 16, 2022 12:11 PM (tG7ec)

22 Wow, re: Salt Lake City tribune editorial. You just KNOW a real Karen wrote this.

Were Utah a truly civilized place, the governor's next move would be to find a way to mandate the kind of mass vaccination campaign we should have launched a year ago, going as far as to deploy the National Guard to ensure that people without proof of vaccination would not be allowed, well, anywhere.

Posted by: lizabth at January 16, 2022 12:12 PM (L3Rsz)

23 Glad you're doing OK. I imagine it's a scary time to be hospitalized... for any reason.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 16, 2022 12:12 PM (BFigT)

24 Until the blatant corruption in the system is minimized we cannot trust the basic science being used in support of therapies recommended by our government medical bureaucracy. It is profoundly, irreparably corrupt, and until it is burned to the ground and rebuilt with high walls between Pharma and government we will continue to see these insane disconnects between good medicine and government action.

Well said.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2022 12:13 PM (axyOa)

25 Salt Lake City

That is how the boneless pork rectum known as Mittels Rombley got elected to the Senate.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 16, 2022 12:13 PM (KfrSF)

26 Glad you're all bettery CBD!

Hubbymayhem and I had the delta version in late August or early September. He got monoclonal antibodies treatment because of heart issues. I got...... Nothing. Just told me to rest, Tylenol or ibuprofen for fever, OTC cold and flu meds, emergen-c, and go to the hospital if there was any difficulty breathing. Two weeks of misery and I have natural immunity. It never even caused me to cough.
I really do not understand why they didn't focus on therapeutics so fewer people would wind up in hospital or dead. This makes no sense at all.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 16, 2022 12:14 PM (Vxu+H)

27 Glad you're well CBD. My wife, who has asthma, has it now and it's just a mild head cold. I never got it, I was tested the same time as she was, she had symptoms then I did not. I'm not getting another test unless I have symptoms.

Posted by: Colonel Travis at January 16, 2022 12:14 PM (eKhRG)

28 My husband, who is immunocompromised didn't even get a cold. We aren't jabbed. Now I don't have to and he refuses.

Posted by: Megthered at January 16, 2022 12:14 PM (3D8Os)

29 "Pharma will do what any corporation will do ... maximize profit. I have no problem with that. What I have a huge problem with is the revolving door between government regulators and cushy jobs in Pharma, and even worse, the ability of regulators and our oh-so-honest politicians to profit from investments in the very companies they regulate."

Well, BigCorp buying BigGov is criminal, not just unethical. So I do have a problem with that part of maximizing profit. Especially when (hypothetically?) Ivermectin is removed from "the market" under "coercive pressure" from BigPharma.

The same with BigTech just trying to make max profit. They are in bed with DeepState (or they ARE DeepState) to undermine our Liberty, and benefit Globalists and their post America plans.

They trial run the conspiracy and sedition charges against 1/6 "activists" ... but it is DeepState with the oligarchs that are the Genuine Article.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 16, 2022 12:15 PM (Cus5s)

30
*peers at computer screen*

Says here you had a vacuum cleaner hose removed from your penis last year. How's that going? Any ongoing issues? You say that wasn't you, it's a mistake? Well I'll file for a correction to the medical record, we have a procedure.

What about the anal warts? Oh, that's wrong too? Jane, could you come over here and help me out filing a correction? Maybe get Sally, too, she knows the system.

Posted by: Healthcare Worket at January 16, 2022 12:15 PM (2iDSr)

31 CBD was in the Hospital for rich people near us.
I tried to get him transferred to ST Joseph's in Paterson with all the Arabs but he must have more pull than me?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 12:15 PM (Irn0L)

32 The EMR is not the guardian of accuracy. Glad you noticed as it gets too much praise.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 12:16 PM (ONvIw)

33 Good to hear you are feeling better.
Wifey had the WuFlu but it was the sinus infection that did her in. I never had it but got a sinus infection that I thot was going to kill me.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 16, 2022 12:16 PM (yrol0)

34 So....how's your gallbladder?

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 16, 2022 12:16 PM (Fs5vw)

35 Wow, re: Salt Lake City tribune editorial. You just KNOW a real Karen wrote this.

Were Utah a truly civilized place, the governor's next move would be to find a way to mandate the kind of mass vaccination campaign we should have launched a year ago, going as far as to deploy the National Guard to ensure that people without proof of vaccination would not be allowed, well, anywhere.
Posted by: lizabth at January 16, 2022 12:12 PM (L3Rsz)

It's too kind to call these people Karens. They're fascists. Australia is a fascist country. These people in governments all across the globe are fascists.

Calling them anything less lets them off the hook.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 16, 2022 12:16 PM (I4LyL)

36 Djokovic has been deported from Australia , the Karen country of the world.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 16, 2022 12:18 PM (RJMSR)

37 I really thought the coof would have run its course by now. I have theories as to why it hasn't but I have no desire to rehash that or subject anyone else to it. Let's just say that the last couple of years have sucked big time.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 16, 2022 12:18 PM (Xrfse)

38 Hey, who ate all our maple syrup?

Posted by: CBD's Hospital at January 16, 2022 12:18 PM (PPQdm)

39 The conclusion we can draw is that Nevergiveup is strong like bull with super immunity to everything since I shared a meal with CBD the day before and came out feeling MARVELOUS!

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 12:06 PM (Irn0L)

Sadly, this is true.

Next time I'll probably get Ebola.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 12:18 PM (Q9lwr)

40 I had covid before we knew we had covid. Not flu but coivd symptoms. Doctor said it was bronchitis and treated me with antibiotics and it would just not go away, breathing problems and persistent cough. Sent me to a lung doctor who gave me three different inhalers which didn't do much. I finally beat it about a month after I first got sick. I still have breathing problems from it.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at January 16, 2022 12:19 PM (bVYXr)

41 Well, BigCorp buying BigGov is criminal, not just unethical. So I do have a problem with that part of maximizing profit. Especially when (hypothetically?) Ivermectin is removed from "the market" under "coercive pressure" from BigPharma.

The same with BigTech just trying to make max profit. They are in bed with DeepState (or they ARE DeepState) to undermine our Liberty, and benefit Globalists and their post America plans.

They trial run the conspiracy and sedition charges against 1/6 "activists" ... but it is DeepState with the oligarchs that are the Genuine Article.
Posted by: illiniwek at January 16, 2022 12:15 PM (Cus5s)

Well, considering Big Ppharma essentially owns Big Pfmedia too, I'd say we're way past criminal too.

Fascist, totalitarian hell... we're soaking in it.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 16, 2022 12:19 PM (I4LyL)

42 It's too kind to call these people Karens. They're fascists. Australia is a fascist country. These people in governments all across the globe are fascists.

Calling them anything less lets them off the hook.
Posted by: BurtTC

For sure. I was more using that term to signify that the writer HAD to be a woman (aka real Karen), or I guess possibly a deeply feminized man. The whole piece reeks of estrogen and hysteria.

Posted by: lizabth at January 16, 2022 12:19 PM (L3Rsz)

43 Welcome back, CBD! You've been missed.

I have been leary of the electronic medical records from the git go. Not because of your experience, although I am now, but because of my paranoia about electrical failures. Yes, it is to my benefit that my preferred hospital, my personal care physician, and my many specialists are all members of the same organization. My dialysis center is independent of all medical affiliations, but cooperates with every medical organization in Omaha. So everyone involved has instant access to my medical records, which is to my benefit. But I still have large reservations about no more physical records. Of course, I'm dead any way if there is an emp attack because I am totally dependent on a dialysis machine, but even fore my kidneys wrapped out on me, I was leary. Maybe I've read too many stories about NorK ambitions or Muslim religious insanity.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- bitterly clinging to the deplorable life '70s style! at January 16, 2022 12:19 PM (N86eO)

44 37 I really thought the coof would have run its course by now. I have theories as to why it hasn't but I have no desire to rehash that or subject anyone else to it. Let's just say that the last couple of years have sucked big time.

agree

and the length makes no sense and I am happy to posit that we are getting hit with additional lab-created "variants" (hence the name they're using, because you never heard that term applied to differing influenzas etc before)

four Chinese people go to South African infected with Omicron already OKAY THAT ISN'T SUSS

Posted by: Black Orchid at January 16, 2022 12:19 PM (j9HX3)

45 Glad you noticed as it gets too much praise.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 12:16 PM (ONvIw)

It was amazingly inaccurate.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 12:19 PM (Q9lwr)

46 For sure. I was more using that term to signify that the writer HAD to be a woman (aka real Karen), or I guess possibly a deeply feminized man. The whole piece reeks of estrogen and hysteria.
Posted by: lizabth at January 16, 2022 12:19 PM (L3Rsz)

It does, but hysteria tends to be politically expedient and has slipped from the grasp of women

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 12:20 PM (ONvIw)

47 Wow, re: Salt Lake City tribune editorial. You just KNOW a real Karen wrote this.

Were Utah a truly civilized place, the governor's next move would be to find a way to mandate the kind of mass vaccination campaign we should have launched a year ago, going as far as to deploy the National Guard to ensure that people without proof of vaccination would not be allowed, well, anywhere.
Posted by: lizabth

Dear Karen
Go fuck yourself with a rusty chainsaw. Don't forget to light it on fire first!
Have a day!
Mayhem

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 16, 2022 12:21 PM (Vxu+H)

48 I think what we're seeing is that Pfizer is going to make Pfsure the Pfmoney never Pfdries up.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 16, 2022 12:11 PM

The minute the money and tax breaks ran out pfizer bailed on their deal with the City of New London to move their world headquarters there. Kelo vs. the City of New London was the decision when I knew we were totally screwed by SCOTUS. Private property can be taken and gifted to a for profit corporation and you can't do squat about it if they want your land.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at January 16, 2022 12:21 PM (bVYXr)

49 Hey, who ate all our maple syrup?

I chuckled. Never gets old.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 16, 2022 12:22 PM (Xrfse)

50 NGU must be SMR

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 16, 2022 12:22 PM (EZebt)

51 It was amazingly inaccurate.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 12:19 PM (Q9lwr)

Deliberately so, at times. Anyone decently trained in their EMR system can circumvent the time stamps and human error will always play a role in data entry. Even the scanning of a patient's bar code can be circumvented, and medical errors will happen.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 12:22 PM (ONvIw)

52 I am getting over a 12 day bout of the 'vid. Lots of coughing and fatigue, intermittent fever (low grade, never over 100.6).
I was pretty frightened over the notion of being hospitalized, but that never happened. Just lots and lots of bed rest, and making my self eat and take deep cleansing breaths, and drink a ton of liquids.

Today I feel much better, though still a little drained.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at January 16, 2022 12:22 PM (x8Wzq)

53 or the craziness of the anti-vax purity brigade

No one can show an honest accounting of the how many people experience side effects from the jabs, nor how severe they are. And this in regards to the short time affects.

We'll start to see the mid term effects soon, but the notion of injecting billions of people with a drug that had essentially no animal or human testing is insane.

And especially because this isn't a vaccine. Take small pox as a counter example - the worst the small pox vaccine could do is...give you small pox. And, it did - not surprisingly bad things happen when you rush medicine.

But an mRNA gene therapy? We literally have no idea what effects we will see 5 years from now.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 16, 2022 12:22 PM (ESjRY)

54 It does, but hysteria tends to be politically expedient and has slipped from the grasp of women
Posted by: CN...FJB

It sure is, as it speaks the Matriarch's lingo. Big voting block there, as we discussed earlier.

Nevertheless, I would wager 100 bucks that a woman penned that screed.

Posted by: lizabth at January 16, 2022 12:22 PM (L3Rsz)

55 I've been sick with mild to moderate flu-like symptoms for about 3 weeks. This is nothing like the frequent bronchitis bouts I have every other year.

The biggest impediment is the fatigue. I could sleep for days. But I can't.

At this point, even with a negative Covid test, I wonder if I really do have a mild case. I am not vaxxed and do not plan to be jabbed. But I don't want to go to a testing facility (again) and sit around a bunch of people who are most likely sick. Frankly, I don't trust the tests to begin with.

I keep saying it but none of this has ever made sense. And the political dimension to Covid is indisputable at this point.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at January 16, 2022 12:23 PM (+Kpte)

56 Excited to hear about your recovery CBD!

Posted by: Draki at January 16, 2022 12:23 PM (TGFWQ)

57 NGU must be SMR
Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 16, 2022 12:22 PM (EZebt)

Small Modular Reactor?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 12:23 PM (Irn0L)

58 I have been exposed countless times so Im still hoping my symptoms today are plain coronavirus not NOVEL CORONAVIRUS rheeeeeeeee!!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 16, 2022 12:23 PM (EZebt)

59 I really thought the coof would have run its course by now. I have theories as to why it hasn't but I have no desire to rehash that or subject anyone else to it. Let's just say that the last couple of years have sucked big time.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 16, 2022 12:18 PM (Xrfse)

If it behaves like other viruses, it will keep getting milder and milder over time. If it doesn't, then it becomes clearer this is a bioweapon.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 16, 2022 12:23 PM (I4LyL)

60 Slavic Master Race

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 16, 2022 12:23 PM (EZebt)

61 Thanks for relating your Covid experience, CBD. Hope there are no lingering effects for you.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 16, 2022 12:24 PM (4I/2K)

62 61 Thanks for relating your Covid experience, CBD. Hope there are no lingering effects for you.
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 16, 2022 12:24 PM (4I/2K)

Ah, "long covid". Why do we never get browbeaten by the concept of "long flu" which also can have sequelae and long lasting effects. One would think there were no bad outcomes from good old influenza. Such crap.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 12:25 PM (ONvIw)

63 One quibble, any of the "vaccines", prophylactic therapeutics, or whatever a semantic taffy yank would yield as the proper term, probably don't stand up to a risk/benefit analysis for the general population, and certainly not those under ..... 40? 50?

Clearly not those under 30. Special cases excepted, as always.

But on the "risk" side of the ledger for these demos C19 was less than influenza, last time I looked. "Flu shots"* are not reco'd for healthy 27 years olds, or teenagers - same with shingles shots, or pneumonia shots. For a reason.

How does precisely that same reason not apply here? Note: if these vaccine-like things do not prevent transmission, then logically there is nearly zero "public health" reason for all but the most vulnerable demos to get them.

* long suspected lack of efficacy confirmed by massive UK study on mortality, I believe.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 16, 2022 12:25 PM (OTzUX)

64 My friend just got the Novavax booster as part of the continuation of test group. He gets paid but that's crazy to be a guinea pig . At least the novoavax is not supposed to be a mRNA vax.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 16, 2022 12:26 PM (RJMSR)

65 NGU must be SMR
Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 16, 2022 12:22 PM (EZebt)

Small Modular Reactor?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 12:23 PM (Irn0L)

You're such a tease.

Posted by: Draki at January 16, 2022 12:26 PM (TGFWQ)

66 Doctors in 1947: Hey we really need to encode this list of medical ethics into law to make sure we don't repeat the abuses of European medicine again. We worked very hard to cover all the things the authoritarian regimes in Europe were doing.

Politicians in 1947: Hey come on now, no politician would ever try to mandate experimental medicines in a free country. We are NOT NAZIs for God's sake.

Politicians in 2021: Wow we really dodged a bullet back then didn't we? Thank Ba'al!

Posted by: 18-1 at January 16, 2022 12:26 PM (ESjRY)

67 I have led a normal life, going out and about without a mask since all of the Coof con started and I still haven't gotten it. And I'm also one of the wretched unvaxxed.

How can this be?

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 16, 2022 12:26 PM (Fs5vw)

68 I'm glad you have recovered. Welcome back!

I think I'll leave it at that.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 16, 2022 12:26 PM (m45I2)

69 Still no name given for the synagogue attacker.

We do know that he is "British", however.

Even though he attacked a synagogue, the FBI still has no idea what motivated him.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 16, 2022 12:27 PM (I2/tG)

70 Glad you are recovered CBD

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at January 16, 2022 12:27 PM (lCui1)

71 We don't need to hear about the food, but how was the hospital coffee?

Posted by: King Harv at January 16, 2022 12:27 PM (jYQlA)

72 Yet, people are lining up in droves to get tested... using test kits originally for "COVID Classic." How'd anyone know which viral strain they have and would it even matter?

Of course not. But teh stupid, it burns.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 16, 2022 12:28 PM (BFigT)

73 Remember the woman who stuffed her son in the trunk to save herself from his Covid Death Rays?

The judge that first heart the case declared there is no probable cause to charge her with child abuse, or anything else

https://tinyurl.com/225zxwen

The case isn't over but... this is what we're still up against on this topic.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 12:28 PM (KZzsI)

74 For sure. I was more using that term to signify that the writer HAD to be a woman (aka real Karen), or I guess possibly a deeply feminized man. The whole piece reeks of estrogen and hysteria.
Posted by: lizabth at January 16, 2022 12:19 PM (L3Rsz)

Given there are plenty of those running around (estrogen soaked males... and I don't mean the ones who claim to be male, I mean the ones with the actual chromosomes), I'm not sure how to tell the difference anymore.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 16, 2022 12:29 PM (I4LyL)

75 Djokovic has been deported from Australia , the Karen country of the world.
=====

My unreliable memory has Djokovic as a repeat winner of Aussie grand slam titles. I don't follow tennis, so I'm hesitant to mention this; but I do know that betting groups always, always, float 'disqualifying' rumors before any big meets. Like just before some big game or another one of the stars will be hit with an 'abuse' allegation.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 16, 2022 12:29 PM (MIKMs)

76 So, question I posed the other night -
Does it seem like Covid hits men harder than women?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at January 16, 2022 12:29 PM (lCui1)

77 probably don't stand up to a risk/benefit analysis for the general population

In non-clown world the government would have started at least two, large, multi-year studies, one by skeptics and one by proponents, that would determine total impact of the jabs - with severe criminal penalties for not being transparent with the underlying data.

Right now we could literally pull up a webform, enter your age, weight and other health factors, and get spit out a list of probabilities of death/injury with or from the shot and COVID.

We don't have this because the people in the government don't want it. And there are no positive answers to why they wouldn't want it.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 16, 2022 12:30 PM (ESjRY)

78 Even though he attacked a synagogue, the FBI still has no idea what motivated him.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 16, 2022 12:27 PM (I2/tG)

They will probably ask for more money from congress to figure that riddle out?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 12:30 PM (Irn0L)

79 How can this be?
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons

Clearly you are a mutant.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 16, 2022 12:30 PM (Vxu+H)

80 I have led a normal life, going out and about without a mask since all of the Coof con started and I still haven't gotten it. And I'm also one of the wretched unvaxxed.

How can this be?
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 16, 2022 12:26 PM (Fs5vw)

I got the plague in 2020 before the vax was out. It wasn't that bad, but I've got a better constitution than most. You might as well. Plus vaxes only give temporary health protection nowadays since they changed the definition.

Posted by: Draki at January 16, 2022 12:30 PM (TGFWQ)

81 We don't need to hear about the food, but how was the hospital coffee?
Posted by: King Harv at January 16, 2022 12:27 PM (jYQlA)

CBD told me the food was so bad, he'd rather eat my wife's food

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 12:31 PM (Irn0L)

82
He has been described as Pakistani.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 16, 2022 12:31 PM (2iDSr)

83 76 So, question I posed the other night -
Does it seem like Covid hits men harder than women?
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion

Wait. Covid is the ultimate Man-Cold?
Hahahahahahahahaha!

*snort*

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 16, 2022 12:31 PM (U2p+3)

84 Nurse! Take this man to a private room. He has money coming out the wazoo!

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at January 16, 2022 12:31 PM (sAXJ5)

85
The Texas synagogue attacker, that is.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 16, 2022 12:31 PM (2iDSr)

86 We do know that he is "British", however.

I presume Paki here, as many "British" muslims are.

Speaking of which, it is comical "Paki" is an insult, but "Brit" is just fine.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 16, 2022 12:32 PM (ESjRY)

87 The judge that first heart the case declared there is no probable cause to charge her with child abuse, or anything else

I sometimes long for my now-barren bag of shocked faces.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 16, 2022 12:32 PM (Xrfse)

88 I bet the editorial Karen would not feed her kids GMO foods claiming it's bad for them but will have them injected with a modified gene therapy drug.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 16, 2022 12:32 PM (RJMSR)

89 Yay ! Glad to see you back, CBD !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (9CuDT) at January 16, 2022 12:32 PM (9CuDT)

90 He has been described as Pakistani.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 16, 2022 12:31 PM (2iDSr)

A Pakistani Trump supporter with ties to the Proud Boys?

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 16, 2022 12:32 PM (H8QX8)

91 I have led a normal life, going out and about without a mask since all of the Coof con started and I still haven't gotten it. And I'm also one of the wretched unvaxxed.

How can this be?
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons
---
#metoo, except I'm supposed to wear a mask at work if not in my office. And I've made 4 major road trips and flown 4 times since this started, including trips to the DC area during "surges." According to CNN I should be dead many times over.

(Glad you are feeling better, CBD!)

Posted by: screaming in digital at January 16, 2022 12:32 PM (kTRt4)

92 The hospital ER I was in had similar records mistakes. At one point the doctor was reading someone else's chart instead of mine LOL

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at January 16, 2022 12:32 PM (lCui1)

93 I have been almost entirely unaffected by all this Wuhan Flu crap for several reasons. First, I don't get out much to begin with. My job is entirely freelance, and I was super productive the last two years, making more money by several magnitudes than previous years. I never got sick from anything, although I was certainly infected by the crud (My brother had it, and I live in the same house). The few rare times I went somewhere I wore a mask inside briefly then ripped the stupid thing off.

But I could see the effects all around me on others, like my brothers who basically were without work for months on end and got fat checks from the government for doing so (not me).

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 12:33 PM (KZzsI)

94 Glad to hear you're doing better CBD.

The cutting and pasting of physical exams by doctors is often noted by RNs who are taking care of the same patients. The majority (even if the patient's status has not changed and the physical exam showed the same) don't know how to delete the date of the exam they copied.
I always mentioned it to them and if it was a 'beginner/student' to their next up the chain.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 16, 2022 12:33 PM (CCwsu)

95 I have a third degree heart block and am pacer dependent. I asked my cardiologists about getting jabbed. They never said get it and they never said no, don't get it. It made me think that they didn't trust it but couldn't say it out loud. The entire medical establishment is completely cowed by non clinical authorities. They are threatened with not being able to practice medicine so they go along. So, they have lost credibility with most people.

Posted by: Megthered at January 16, 2022 12:33 PM (3D8Os)

96 Re: medical records.

I had an outpatient procedure Friday before last. I noticed they had to correct my first name No the pre-op board. And I've gotten stuff with the wrong first name (one letter difference. And there are thousands of them, and few of us.).

Posted by: Fox2! at January 16, 2022 12:34 PM (qyH+l)

97 They will probably ask for more money from congress to figure that riddle out?

It's reminiscent of when Obama made it sound as if the Islamist terrorists in Paris had just randomly chosen to attack a kosher supermarket without any particular religious motive, and then he slipped and referred to the supermarket as "a deli".

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 16, 2022 12:34 PM (I2/tG)

98 The more EMR you have the worse the communication is among providers, the more useless the information is and the worse the patient care is.

Posted by: Aviator at January 16, 2022 12:34 PM (HQ9Sl)

99 Speaking as someone who works in "big pharma" and yes, worked on the vaccine clinical trials - the "cushy" relationship between regulators and pharma - simply doesn't exist at my level. In fact, regulatory audits are a downright horrifying proposition. Peoples' lives and careers have been absolutely ruined because of terrible regulatory audit performance and the dreaded "notice" that the agencies like to very publicly issue.
I have an MHRA audit coming up in two weeks. I've been ensuring that all of the relevant study documentation is filed in the Trial Master File and my training (yes, even my *required* DEI training) is current. Our mock audit is next week complete with a graded mock interview. During regulatory audit interviews, we're allowed to respond in only one of three ways: "Yes." "No." "I don't know." Anything else is expressly forbidden. We have a regulatory compliance representative in the room with us during the interview, along with legal counsel.
As far as the perception that there's a revolving door between regulatory and pharma, I don't see it at my level. I know of only one person who has worked at my company who has spent time at the FDA. My 2c.

Posted by: Defenestratus at January 16, 2022 12:34 PM (pMc5z)

100 I had wuflu early on, and I suspect it was delivered by the grandson with the cold symptoms. We could not have all come down with what seemed like a painful sinus infection, with a mild fever, decreased sense of smell and cough all at the same time.

The tests were not widely available when I had it, but as we have all avoided omicron and delta, I assume we had the original thing.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 12:34 PM (ONvIw)

101 filled with inaccurate information (in real time!) and glaringly obvious cut & pastes by physicians, nurses and clerks. Wrong data about medications, inaccurate descriptions of physical exams, time stamps that are obviously incorrect, and that was from a casual perusal over several days.

Blessings of medicare! Dr Cat, you didn't click enough boxes for billing requirements! You need more physical exam elements! You need more MDM!
Instead of "Hospital day 3, CBD still feels like crap, I ordered him a blood lettin' and clove oil poultice anticipate discharge in 1 week if I can keep him out of the morgue"
You get 5 pages of CMS compliance gibberish.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 16, 2022 12:34 PM (F4b8f)

102 My unreliable memory has Djokovic as a repeat winner of Aussie grand slam titles. I don't follow tennis, so I'm hesitant to mention this; but I do know that betting groups always, always, float 'disqualifying' rumors before any big meets. Like just before some big game or another one of the stars will be hit with an 'abuse' allegation.
Posted by: mustbequantum at January 16, 2022 12:29 PM (MIKMs)

No, he's been deported. And was under house arrest before that. There had been a decision made, I don't remember who, that said he could play, then a Health Minister overruled whoever made the initial decision.

I bet the House Minister wears epaulets on his uniform. Is thinking up a secret salute to be used by all when they greet him.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 16, 2022 12:34 PM (I4LyL)

103 18-1, just looking at the available data yields the observation I made. Based on such data, "calculators" were set up (South Dakota had one, I think FL too) showing "risk" (well, the proxy we use for risk) depending on the usual parameters: age, weight, common health issues like hypertension, diabetes, etc.

But I was referring to the obvious, known, broad outlines of the data. Back when I gave up on it, C19 was causing fewer fatalities or hospitalizations for under 30 than .... average influenza.

OK, class. Take that fact, now add that the "vaccines" don't prevent transmission.

The rest is left as a logical exercise for the class.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 16, 2022 12:35 PM (OTzUX)

104 I admit that I like medical electronic records, especially if I have access to them.

It's how I got my cancer diagnosed (getting my own lab blood results - seeing them, I forced primary care to send me to my hemo onc - I didn't know what cancer it was, but I knew the warning signs)...

And it's how I finally got my food allergies into my permanent medical record. I saw my record and told my hemo that it would probably be good to have it listed in his records if I had to get chemo, so no one would give me the dairy filled protein drinks...

I want to see what the doc sees b/c I can help him (especially for mistakes and oversights)...but I can't help him if I don't know what's in the file...

Posted by: Nova local at January 16, 2022 12:35 PM (exHjb)

105 "66 Doctors in 1947: Hey we really need to encode this list of medical ethics into law to make sure we don't repeat the abuses of European medicine again. We worked very hard to cover all the things the authoritarian regimes in Europe were doing.

Politicians in 1947: Hey come on now, no politician would ever try to mandate experimental medicines in a free country. We are NOT NAZIs for God's sake.

Politicians in 2021: Wow we really dodged a bullet back then didn't we? Thank Ba'al!

Posted by: 18-1 at January 16, 2022 12:26 PM (ESjRY) "

I rate this comment as 100% spot on truth !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (9CuDT) at January 16, 2022 12:35 PM (9CuDT)

106 He has been described as Pakistani.

He is BRITISH! BRITISH, I tell you!

He went out for fish & chips every night!

Posted by: The Media! at January 16, 2022 12:35 PM (I2/tG)

107 o, question I posed the other night -
Does it seem like Covid hits men harder than women?

You do'd uderstad. It's a Man-covid...

Posted by: t-bird at January 16, 2022 12:35 PM (CTJwJ)

108 but how was the hospital coffee?

Posted by: King Harv at January 16, 2022 12:27 PM (jYQlA)

Let's put it this way: I drank tea, and I don't really like tea all that much!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 12:35 PM (Q9lwr)

109 Americans in 1962: Hey I can fit all my kids in the back of this station wagon...its great!

American governments in the 80s: If you don't have your kids seat belted THEY WILL DIE. Also, we'll arrest you.

The American government in the 2020s: You put your kid in the trunk to protect yourself the Wu Flu? You ma'am are a hero.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 16, 2022 12:35 PM (ESjRY)

110 Until the blatant corruption in the system is minimized we cannot trust the basic science being used in support of therapies recommended by our government medical bureaucracy.

Compounding this is the Entertainment-Industrial cabal that has joined forces and is pushing one single narrative while suppressing all other viewpoints.

Phizer wouldn't be as successful at the "vaccine" push and demonizing "horse paste" as they are, were it not for the willful and eager assistance by the establishment. Media, entertainment, businesses, etc all are in on the same push.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 12:36 PM (KZzsI)

111 Posted earlier. Good article about pharmacies practicing medicine and banning Ivermectin here:

https://tinyurl.com/ycyer3cd

In the words of Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry, who went after his states Pharmacy Board when they tried to scare the states pharmacists away from prescribing ivermectin by sending them threatening letters, "it is shocking that pharmacists are suddenly developing a conscience after spending the last decade handing out opiates like they were M & M's"

That's an outstanding observation.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - wondering about using horse paste or my preferred 1% liquid, read the comments at January 16, 2022 12:37 PM (jZJe9)

112 Speaking of which, it is comical "Paki" is an insult, but "Brit" is just fine.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 16, 2022 12:32 PM (ESjRY)

Spoken like the true Yank you are.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 16, 2022 12:37 PM (I4LyL)

113 this will take years to overcome all the damage

and that's if there is no after shock of the vax doing a number on peeps a year or two from now

if that happens,fuhgeddaboudit

Posted by: REDACTED at January 16, 2022 12:37 PM (us2H3)

114 Glad to hear you're mended, CBD! With the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, do you think that your hospitilization was done out of an abundance of caution or that you probably could have weathered it with prescription medications and home recuperation?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 16, 2022 12:37 PM (7keLb)

115 I know of only one person who has worked at my company who has spent time at the FDA. My 2c.
Posted by: Defenestratus at January 16, 2022 12:34 PM (pMc5z)

But plenty of pols are investors or are connected to the industry in some way. There is a big pol whose chief of staff is married to a pharma spokesperson. It would be naive to assume that this big pol gets negative info about the vax that makes the CoS' family money.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 12:37 PM (ONvIw)

116 The letter from the Israeli immunologist to his government is a simple, excoriating thing of beauty. It could be addressed to the entire world.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 16, 2022 12:37 PM (H8QX8)

117 Regarding EHR systems - my role in the vaccine trials was to facilitate the integration of EHR data directly into the Clinical Data Management Systems that house the trial data that is ultimately used for analysis. The industry and regulatory has been pushing hard to bridge the gap between EHR and CDMS systems for a long time because the EHR data is demonstrably higher data quality than transcribed data from paper case report forms that are entered into our electronic data capture (CDMS) systems by site personnel. We have the metrics to prove this definitively. What is concerning to me - is that we spend a lot of time "cleaning" the data - ensuring things like a patient doesn't have a heart attack recorded before he was born... on the entered data, but there's a push to cut back on the amount of logic checks we do on EHR integrated data. Something I don't particularly agree with. I could write books on this topic but alas it's probably all very boring.

Posted by: Defenestratus at January 16, 2022 12:38 PM (pMc5z)

118 I had an outpatient procedure Friday before last. I noticed they had to correct my first name No the pre-op board. And I've gotten stuff with the wrong first name (one letter difference. And there are thousands of them, and few of us.).

Posted by: Fox2! at January 16, 2022 12:34 PM

I had to correct my EHR four times after my wife retired and we lost Blue Cross insurance. Every time I went to any doctor it would pop back into the system and they would bill Blue Cross. It was frustrating and I can imagine how some really messed up stuff can happen with electronic records that could screw up treatment if you were in an emergency setting.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at January 16, 2022 12:38 PM (bVYXr)

119 If it behaves like other viruses, it will keep getting milder and milder over time. If it doesn't, then it becomes clearer this is a bioweapon.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 16, 2022 12:23 PM (I4LyL)

Since I believe it is and has always been the latter, that has always been my worry...that this may not act like a regular virus over time b/c we made it that way...

Posted by: Nova local at January 16, 2022 12:38 PM (exHjb)

120 Glad you are back CBD!
Have a few highly alcoholic beverages and charge them to the HQ. Ace is making money hand over fist installing shelves so he will not mind.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at January 16, 2022 12:38 PM (9OMtu)

121 Ari Hoffman @thehoffather; 12h
Biden's FBI: The Islamist terrorist, who held Jews hostage at a Texas synagogue, on Sabbath, was "singularly focused on one issue" that was not "specifically related to the Jewish community."

He then adds "We are continuing to work to find motive."

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 16, 2022 12:38 PM (UHVv4)

122 Someone a night or two ago made a great point as well.

Imagine if the feds and medical community had approached fentanyl and heroin the way we were made to think about COVID.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - wondering about using horse paste or my preferred 1% liquid, read the comments at January 16, 2022 12:38 PM (jZJe9)

123 I feel there should be more interest in rhe coming train wreck of Olympic infection coming soon.
Whats the real story of the reported bleeding disorder they have?

Posted by: The Charlie Daniels of the Torque Wrench at January 16, 2022 12:38 PM (nxd4a)

124 Oh and I still think the people on the trail of various lots of the mRNA jabs being dangerous vs others being "safe" are in fact seeing the difference in locales that report to VAERS and those that don't.

I presume the "bad lots" are in fact from places mostly reporting to VAERS as they are supposed to, and the "good lots" are in areas where medical staff are banned (informally of course) from doing so.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 16, 2022 12:39 PM (ESjRY)

125 He then adds "We are continuing to work to find motive."
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 16, 2022 12:38 PM (UHVv4)

Unreal.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 16, 2022 12:39 PM (H8QX8)

126 Rapper Wavy Navy Pooh killed in Miami shooting.

Another victim of the China Flu.

The horror, the horror.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 16, 2022 12:39 PM (R/m4+)

127 But plenty of pols are investors or are connected to the industry in some way. There is a big pol whose chief of staff is married to a pharma spokesperson. It would be naive to assume that this big pol gets negative info about the vax that makes the CoS' family money.
Posted by: CN...FJB

**

Tell me again what Fauci's wife does?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - wondering about using horse paste or my preferred 1% liquid, read the comments at January 16, 2022 12:40 PM (jZJe9)

128 " I really thought the coof would have run its course by now."

All that we did was slow the inevitable spread somewhat.
At enormous costs.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 16, 2022 12:40 PM (i0slg)

129 glad you are ok! one of mine is double vaxed and on his 3rd bout of the vid.....another of mine has had the disease 2x....he happens to be double vaxed and boostered....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 16, 2022 12:40 PM (CqHIp)

130 I am glad you got good treatment and recovered. Thank God for that.

Posted by: Evi L. Bloggerlady at January 16, 2022 12:40 PM (oykjI)

131 Even if its a bioweapon, it would behave much like normal virus' arc because that's how they survive and continue. I don't think they can or have figured out how to combat the mutations and patterns of normal virii.

The Islamist terrorist, who held Jews hostage at a Texas synagogue, on Sabbath, was "singularly focused on one issue" that was not "specifically related to the Jewish community."

He was clearly demanding bagels be made with lye again.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 12:41 PM (KZzsI)

132
He then adds "We are continuing to work to find motive."
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 16, 2022 12:38 PM (UHVv4)

Right.... Pay no attention to the fact that the terrorist chose a Synagogue and not a Baptist Church.... F**K the FIB

Posted by: It's me donna at January 16, 2022 12:41 PM (TdaKq)

133 Northern Lass @northerness; 16h
Unbelievably, one of the Australian government lawyer's main arguments is that Djokovic may become "an icon of free choice". Exact words used. Oh my.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 16, 2022 12:41 PM (UHVv4)

134 If it behaves like other viruses, it will keep getting milder and milder over time.

We actually have a pretty good example of this - the "flu" pandemic of the late 1800s is likely the source of the current corona virus we call "the common cold" - Human Coronavirus O43.

Also note, exposure to Human Coronavirus O43 gives resistance, and perhaps immunity, to COVID.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 16, 2022 12:41 PM (ESjRY)

135 There's yet another test bed out at sea. A cruise ship had ONE (1) case of the Wuhan Flu on it and locked down, its now making its way back to port on full quarantine.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 12:42 PM (KZzsI)

136 They are threatened with not being able to practice medicine so they go along. So, they have lost credibility with most people.
Posted by: Megthered at January 16, 2022 12:33 PM (3D8Os)

I worked in a medical profession for over 30 years. In my estimation, medicine lost it's credibility about 12-15 years ago. That's about when the government and corporate marketing departments took over medical care.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 16, 2022 12:42 PM (Fs5vw)

137 Djokovic may become "an icon of free choice"

As the left puts it "Fuck Your Freedoms"

Posted by: 18-1 at January 16, 2022 12:42 PM (ESjRY)

138 Glad you're back CBD.

I haven't been tracking--is OM recovered yet?

Posted by: TexasDan at January 16, 2022 12:42 PM (9PjK4)

139 " ...
Whats the real story of the reported bleeding disorder they have?

Posted by: The Charlie Daniels of the Torque Wrench at January 16, 2022 12:38 PM (nxd4a) "

We'll never know, and less than half of us would believe anything they did say. Just have to wait and see what happens.

"hope for the best, while preparing for the worst" is my advice.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (9CuDT) at January 16, 2022 12:42 PM (9CuDT)

140 The Islamist terrorist, who held Jews hostage at a Texas synagogue, on Sabbath, was "singularly focused on one issue" that was not "specifically related to the Jewish community."

**

That's such an amazing statement. The second part completely contradicts the first part (literally, the jewish community was being held hostage by the muslim), but they 100% intend for people to just nod and accept it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - wondering about using horse paste or my preferred 1% liquid, read the comments at January 16, 2022 12:42 PM (jZJe9)

141 With the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, do you think that your hospitilization was done out of an abundance of caution or that you probably could have weathered it with prescription medications and home recuperation?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 16, 2022 12:37 PM (7keLb)

Excellent question, and one that obviously can't really be answered, but...

I was getting worse, and within 12 hours of treatment I was feeling much, much better.

Could I have weathered it? I just don't know. I firmly believe that I am going to live forever and nothing can hurt me, but damn...

The day before I went to the hospital I showered and shaved. And halfway through shaving I seriously considered lying down on the bathroom floor.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 12:42 PM (Q9lwr)

142 was "singularly focused on one issue" that was not "specifically related to the Jewish community."

I think what the FBI means is that the guy was singularly focused on freeing the Al Qaeda Queen, and the FBI doesn't think that motivation is antisemitic.

The fact that the Al Qaeda Queen demanded that no Jews be on her jury, and that she blamed Israel when she was convicted, is irrelevant.

Posted by: The Media! at January 16, 2022 12:43 PM (I2/tG)

143 The Islamist terrorist, who held Jews hostage at a Texas synagogue, on Sabbath, was "singularly focused on one issue" that was not "specifically related to the Jewish community."

He was clearly demanding bagels be made with lye again.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 12:41 PM (KZzsI)

Right. His Jew hating terrorist sister. No Jewish connection at all.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 12:43 PM (ONvIw)

144 huh. That was weird. I've only had one Irish coffee. Didn't expect to be tipsy yet.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - wondering about using horse paste or my preferred 1% liquid, read the comments at January 16, 2022 12:43 PM (jZJe9)

145 This was extraordinarily fascinating in many ways.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 16, 2022 12:44 PM (9CpZF)

146 China Joe hates extremists! "There is more we will learn in the days ahead about the motivations of the hostage taker, but let me be clear to anyone who intends to spread hate -- we will stand against anti-Semitism and against the rise of extremism in this country."

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 16, 2022 12:44 PM (UHVv4)

147 Nice to have you back CBD. There was a noticable ripple in the grey box matrix with you absent.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * be ungovernable at January 16, 2022 12:44 PM (7qvSd)

148 All the hospital food was sous vide. *shudder*

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at January 16, 2022 12:45 PM (II3Gr)

149 Defenestratus, thanks for that insight from direct knowledge.

While at the very very top there is a Third World-level outrageous appearance of conflict of interest (which is the standard), such as the clown who was an FDA official and now the board of Pfizer (could be getting those details wrong, but it's essentially that type of situation) who relentlessly argued the illogical and data- and epidemiology-free line (Scott somebody), that may not really tell the story.

"Corruption" doesn't begin to explain most of the toxic behavior, by individuals and institutions. It's desperately optimistic to think so. A working majority of people actually are as (variously) ignorant, paranoid, power-mad, authoritarian, and unhinged as they appear.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 16, 2022 12:45 PM (OTzUX)

150 At one point the doctor was reading someone else's chart instead of mine LOL

Had something like that happen to me. Busted myself up pretty good when I had to lay down my motorcycle. Lots of imaging diagnostics, etc. Among other things, I was told that I urgently needed to consult with a specialist for something totally unrelated to the mishap. Turned out someone was looking at someone else's results. Oh, well...I was more relieved than pissed.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 16, 2022 12:46 PM (Xrfse)

151 The day before I went to the hospital I showered and shaved. And halfway through shaving I seriously considered lying down on the bathroom floor.

Very healthy, strong people have a hard time grasping that they have to heal and build back again after major illness or trauma. You don't just get out of bed and go running down the street again, it takes time for your body to heal and be ready to go again.

Its like emotional trauma: you cannot just go out and date again after losing your beloved wife or being dumped by the girl of your dreams. You took tremendous damage emotionally and spiritually. It takes time to heal. Give it time.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 12:46 PM (KZzsI)

152 The most important thing in the wake of the synagogue attack is to avoid muslim backlash. We could probably do it with a $5 trillion 8000 page stimulus bill, but only if we pass it by 5pm.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 16, 2022 12:47 PM (F4b8f)

153 I think we have to allow that big media demonized HCQ "fish medicine" just as a handy club against their nemesis DJT with no prodding from big pharma.

Ivermectin is not such a clear case as I think they had already cheated the senile pervert into office before most people heard of it. But even though Trump has never pushed ivermectin, and in fact pushed the vaccines, the FNM complex has decided that people who reject the vaccine narrative from government and FNM are in the "basket of deplorables" that vote for non beltway club members such as Trump and must be demonized. If vaccinated people are also getting sicker than need be, they are just collateral damage in the war on the deplorables

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 16, 2022 12:47 PM (3cGpq)

154 we will stand against anti-Semitism and against the rise of extremism in this country.

Have you noticed that Democrats are now incapable of simply denouncing anti-Semitism?

They now denounce "anti-Semitism and Islamaphobia", or "anti-Semitism and against the rise of extremism", or some other combination of things.

Anti-Semitism, by itself, isn't important enough to denounce.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 16, 2022 12:48 PM (I2/tG)

155 One of my favorite satire pieces from the Bee was a fake UK Guardian story warning against Muslim Backlash to the next Islamic terror attack.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 12:48 PM (KZzsI)

156 152 The most important thing in the wake of the synagogue attack is to avoid muslim backlash. We could probably do it with a $5 trillion 8000 page stimulus bill, but only if we pass it by 5pm.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 16, 2022 12:47 PM (F4b8f)

I'd laugh if I didn't think the Dems would try that

Posted by: It's me donna at January 16, 2022 12:48 PM (TdaKq)

157
141

I was getting worse, and within 12 hours of treatment I was feeling much, much better.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 12:42 PM (Q9lwr)

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What was the treatment, if you're willing to say.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 16, 2022 12:48 PM (2iDSr)

158 Oh yeah, EMR can cause more problems than it solves. Drop downs and autofills that don't apply, dragging along old information inappropriately, miscategorizing differential diagnoses and subsequently sending out erroneous billing...all kinds of fun stuff.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at January 16, 2022 12:48 PM (II3Gr)

159 American governments in the 80s: If you don't have your kids seat belted THEY WILL DIE. Also, we'll arrest you.
The American government in the 2020s: You put your kid in the trunk to protect yourself the Wu Flu? You ma'am are a hero.
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Learned late last year that IL has a new law that children may not be strapped into their carseats wearing winter coats. Those little scamps just slip right out of their coats and straps.

Dear Heaven.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 16, 2022 12:49 PM (MIKMs)

160 Oliver Brown @oliverbrown_tel; 8h
Australian Lawyers' Alliance not holding back on Djokovic deportation: "One of the most dangerous aspects of the matter is the preparedness of the federal government to deem someone a risk to public order simply on the basis of what it perceives that person's views might be."

[andy: Brown is head sports writer at the UK Daily Telegraph]

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 16, 2022 12:49 PM (UHVv4)

161 one of the Australian government lawyer's main arguments is that Djokovic may become "an icon of free choice"

Well, we just can't have that, can we?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 16, 2022 12:49 PM (Xrfse)

162 But plenty of pols are investors or are connected to the industry in some way. There is a big pol whose chief of staff is married to a pharma spokesperson. It would be naive to assume that this big pol gets negative info about the vax that makes the CoS' family money.
Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 12:37 PM (ONvIw)

It is the final stage of regulatory capture, with the first part creating a cartel out of the industry and winding up with the industry and government with their hands in each others' pockets

Posted by: Kindltot at January 16, 2022 12:50 PM (ZMraq)

163 Glad to hear that you are doing better, CBD.

We are in the midst of switching to a new EMR at my workplace and it is a nightmare.

Posted by: Not my usual name at January 16, 2022 12:50 PM (nEjxt)

164 Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at January 16, 2022 12:29 PM (lCui1)

Don't know. Only covid fatality I know personally was a woman. Both male and female relatives who've had it range from mild cold to bad flu with no difference by sex.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 16, 2022 12:50 PM (nC+QA)

165 I used to mostly trust doctors, but 0bamacare changed all that. I saw an industry eager to be nationalized, regardless of what that would do to the quality and availability of care. Actually, to me it seemed a great many were cheerleading for medical communism BECAUSE of what it would do to quality and availability. I've heard medicine attracts emotional defectives and this seemed to bare that out.

With Covid, my views have only crystalized. I will only see doctors who will take cash payments - no paperwork. No records.

If you're dying, I get it, but anything short of excruciating pain or severe illness is something I can live with.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 16, 2022 12:51 PM (ikIMD)

166 What was baffling to me when I had Covid was the complete loss of energy. I basically couldn't move. Couldn't lift my head off the pillow. Was not on the phone, not watching TV. Just immobile.

I didn't hurt, had no cough. But I was rapidly losing my mind, felt like. I have had a tenth of a teaspoon of what it might be like for people who remain lucid in a coma, and I don't ever want to go through it again.

Posted by: TexasDan at January 16, 2022 12:51 PM (bIw8b)

167 Well, BigCorp buying BigGov is criminal, not just unethical. So I do have a problem with that part of maximizing profit.

I'm not so keen on the part where they maximize profit by trying to keep people uninformed about the damage their jabs do, according to their own data, for the next 75 years.

Posted by: Methos at January 16, 2022 12:51 PM (kOpft)

168 Until the blatant corruption in the system is minimized we cannot trust the basic science being used in support of therapies recommended by our government medical bureaucracy. It is profoundly, irreparably corrupt,
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Government - and leftists, but I repeat myself - corrupt everything they touch.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 16, 2022 12:51 PM (BpI5R)

169 The larger question for me during this experience is whether the vaccine I got 10 months before had conferred any residual immunity.

I am more concerned that the vaxx depresses the immune system against anything other than the original strain.

I am glad you dodged the bullet.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 16, 2022 12:52 PM (yQpMk)

170 158 Oh yeah, EMR can cause more problems than it solves. Drop downs and autofills that don't apply, dragging along old information inappropriately, miscategorizing differential diagnoses and subsequently sending out erroneous billing...all kinds of fun stuff.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at January 16, 2022 12:48 PM (II3Gr

And anyone who wants to can still falsify data, like med administration times, etc.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 12:52 PM (ONvIw)

171 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 12:42 PM (Q9lwr)

Excellent situational awareness, my friend. I had the flu a few years ago and thought I'd just self medicate. Ended up in the ER and took several IVs to rehydrate, and a 12 hour stay to get the fever under control.

Glad to hear you jumped on it quickly.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 16, 2022 12:52 PM (7keLb)

172 1. SO glad you're back, and posting.
2. Thanks very much for sharing your experience. Things move at the speed of a glacier in the hospital, it seems, but unless one is taking notes, it's tough to put the events into a narrative afterward, and I appreciate that you've allowed us a look.
3. Record keeping on the facility's part - boy, oh boy, did you nail that. Getting up to date, accurate information is a challenge.
Glad that, overall, it didn't suck as badly as it might.
Good to "see" you!

Posted by: Appycay at January 16, 2022 12:52 PM (zGcp1)

173 Ignoramus - key point. I have seen zero evidence we "slowed" or in any way affected the pace or extent of transmission. Just as all real science and century of observation would have predicted.

All of the "mitigation" - every single aspect of it, everywhere on earth - has not been shown to have had *any* effect whatsoever, on any aspect of the phenomenon.

And most of the costs are related to these illiterate and ill-considered mitigation attempts.

It's a central question. Every aspect of Sweden's (and a few other jurisdictions') experience to date offers zero support for the assertion that "mitigation" did any mitigating. And there's no "signal" in any of the data showing any effect in hard-core fake public health areas, either. Hope-Simpson, regional and demographic variation, just as with other ILIs - all clicking along, everything consistent with those.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 16, 2022 12:52 PM (OTzUX)

174 126 Rapper Wavy Navy Pooh killed in Miami shooting.

I wanna click, but no. I'm not gonna click.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at January 16, 2022 12:52 PM (jYQlA)

175 Regarding the Islamic freedom fighter there is one question that I would like answered. How did a British citizen with an imprisoned Islamic terrorist sibling get into our country and arm himself with a firearm and explosives?

Posted by: Sock Monkey * be ungovernable at January 16, 2022 12:53 PM (7qvSd)

176 The infected ship is a Norwegian Cruise Line job

https://tinyurl.com/2p86ks4z

The passengers are not able to deport anywhere, which is making the cruise kind of dull (they are calling it a "nightmare" which seems shrill and ridiculous, I mean riding a mobile resort is THAT bad if you can't get off at a fancy port?)

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 12:53 PM (KZzsI)

177
What was the treatment, if you're willing to say.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 16, 2022 12:48 PM (2iDSr)

An enema, orange juice, and aspirin. Each costing $10,000 dollars.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 16, 2022 12:54 PM (Fs5vw)

178 Rapper Wavy Navy Pooh killed in Miami shooting.

I get that a lot of these guys got their nickname while in grade school but... seriously??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 12:54 PM (KZzsI)

179 The passengers are not able to deport anywhere, which is making the cruise kind of dull (they are calling it a "nightmare" which seems shrill and ridiculous, I mean riding a mobile resort is THAT bad if you can't get off at a fancy port?)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 12:53 PM (KZzsI)

If you can't leave your cabin, it kinda sucks.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 12:54 PM (ONvIw)

180 Imagine if the feds and medical community had approached fentanyl and heroin the way we were made to think about COVID.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - wondering about using horse paste or my preferred 1% liquid, read the comments at January 16, 2022 12:38 PM (jZJe9)

Mandatory suboxone treatments for everyone over the age of 5 and all hospitalizations will have a required treatment of Nalaxone

Posted by: Kindltot at January 16, 2022 12:55 PM (ZMraq)

181 The larger question for me during this experience is whether the vaccine I got 10 months before had conferred any residual immunity.

Not that long, no. They say its good for like 4-6 months. The residual reduction in your immune system is uncertain how long it lasts because everyone wants to pretend it doesn't happen and not do any studies on that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 12:55 PM (KZzsI)

182 Happy news. Get even weller!

Posted by: Biden's Dog at January 16, 2022 12:55 PM (TFA9K)

183 At one point the doctor was reading someone else's chart instead of mine LOL

Had something like that happen to me. Busted myself up pretty good when I had to lay down my motorcycle. Lots of imaging diagnostics, etc. Among other things, I was told that I urgently needed to consult with a specialist for something totally unrelated to the mishap. Turned out someone was looking at someone else's results. Oh, well...I was more relieved than pissed.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 16, 2022 12:46 PM (Xrfse)

In my own Office I am careful but when I am treating patients in a Military Treatment Facility, where the patients are being seen by many different DRs and I do not necessarily know the patients, I check, double check, and triple check the chart and the patient to be 100% sure

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 12:56 PM (Irn0L)

184
175 Regarding the Islamic freedom fighter there is one question that I would like answered. How did a British citizen with an imprisoned Islamic terrorist sibling get into our country and arm himself with a firearm and explosives?
Posted by: Sock Monkey * be ungovernable at January 16, 2022 12:53 PM (7qvSd)

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Apparently she's his 'sister in Islam,' not an actual relative.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 16, 2022 12:56 PM (2iDSr)

185 Were Utah a truly civilized place, the governor's next move would be to find a way to mandate the kind of mass vaccination campaign we should have launched a year ago, going as far as to deploy the National Guard to ensure that people without proof of vaccination would not be allowed, well, anywhere.
Posted by: lizabth at January 16, 2022 12:12 PM (L3Rsz)
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We need a bounty on Karens.

I love the opening: "Were Utah a truly civilized place,"

So ... no true Scotsmen, then?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 16, 2022 12:56 PM (BpI5R)

186 I am more concerned that the vaxx depresses the immune system against anything other than the original strain.
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Me too.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 16, 2022 12:56 PM (MIKMs)

187 @157 - I asked the same question up above. Seems odd to write a "Hey I got covid and was hospitalized but now I"m all better" article without actually saying what the treatments were that made him better.

Posted by: Will at January 16, 2022 12:57 PM (YA4S8)

188 God heals, and the Doctor sends the bill.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 16, 2022 12:57 PM (yQpMk)

189
177

An enema, orange juice, and aspirin. Each costing $10,000 dollars.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 16, 2022 12:54 PM (Fs5vw)

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I could understand not wanting to get into that.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 16, 2022 12:58 PM (2iDSr)

190 The jabcines should be *offered* to the general public. FIFY

Posted by: SFGoth at January 16, 2022 12:58 PM (KAi1n)

191 If you can't leave your cabin, it kinda sucks.
Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 12:54 PM (ONvIw)
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House arrest. On a floating jail.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 16, 2022 12:58 PM (BpI5R)

192 How did a British citizen with an imprisoned Islamic terrorist sibling get into our country and arm himself with a firearm and explosives?
Posted by: Sock Monkey * be ungovernable at January 16, 2022 12:53 PM (7qvSd)
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Three words - Eff. Bee. Eye.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 16, 2022 12:59 PM (ikIMD)

193 Regarding the Islamic freedom fighter there is one question that I would like answered. How did a British citizen with an imprisoned Islamic terrorist sibling get into our country and arm himself with a firearm and explosives?
Posted by: Sock Monkey * be ungovernable at January 16, 2022 12:53 PM (7qvSd)

Obviously the solution is, we need to lock up NRA members, and anyone who won't use the phrase "terrorist attack" to describe a bunch of hillbillies walking around inside the Capitol building.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 16, 2022 12:59 PM (I4LyL)

194 But please don't ask about the food!

CBD is going to talk about that on the Food Thread.

Fortunately, I got a sneak preview, so I can give you a head's up on CBD's topics:

Chicken Pot Pie: Michelin 3 Star Cuisine in a Cardboard Bowl

Jello Brand Chocolate Pudding: Food of the Gods And the Best Finger Paint Ever!

Who Cares About the Cost of Steak? Hospital Chicken Nuggets Will Rock Your World!

How to MacGyver an Emergency Shake Using Only Flat 7-Up, Pancake Syrup, and Cold Mashed Potatoes

Posted by: naturalfake at January 16, 2022 01:00 PM (5NkmN)

195 If you're dying, I get it, but anything short of excruciating pain or severe illness is something I can live with.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 16, 2022 12:51 PM (ikIMD)

Same here.

I refuse to join the ranks of hypochondria.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 16, 2022 01:00 PM (Fs5vw)

196 What was the treatment, if you're willing to say.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 16, 2022 12:48 PM (2iDSr)

No problem...

Steroids, Remdesivir, anti-clotting medication, Vitamin C, Zinc, Vitamin D.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 01:00 PM (Q9lwr)

197 What are the medical, or public health, rationales for "vaccinating" any normal person under 30 with a non-sterilizing vaccine against a virus that has at most flu-like risk for this demo? Logic failure. Spectacular, obvious one.

Unless I'm missing something.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 16, 2022 01:01 PM (OTzUX)

198 I love the opening: "Were Utah a truly civilized place,"

So ... no true Scotsmen, then?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 16, 2022 12:56 PM (BpI5R)

Utah is quite lovely. Lots of nice people. Salt Lake City is hell on Earth, but the rest of the state is fine.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 16, 2022 01:01 PM (I4LyL)

199 Police are investigating suspects with ties to rival rapper Charmy Army Eeyore...

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at January 16, 2022 01:01 PM (jYQlA)

200 Zinc, Vitamin D.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 01:00 PM (Q9lwr)

I've been taking Zinc and D for years

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 01:01 PM (Irn0L)

201 117. Defens.
Thanks for posting the information. The biggest issue with Covid was that the Dx, Treatment, and vaccination protocol was taken over by politicians and career bureaucrats and therefore, accuracy, trust, and ability to pivot based on science was buried in favor of political use of all three. And medicine and research has mostly been afraid to push back, albeit due to overwhelming co conspiracy of politicians and media.

Posted by: Jen the original at January 16, 2022 01:01 PM (JbOTr)

202 Is that Wavy Gravy's kid?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 16, 2022 01:02 PM (F4b8f)

203 anti-clotting medication, Vitamin C, Zinc, Vitamin D.

I already take all of those..

Posted by: It's me donna at January 16, 2022 01:02 PM (TdaKq)

204 Rapper Wavy Navy Pooh killed in Miami shooting.

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The FBI states that the shooter was "singularly focused on one issue" that was not "specifically related to the rap community." and "We are continuing to work to find motive."

Posted by: Moron Robbie - wondering about using horse paste or my preferred 1% liquid, read the comments at January 16, 2022 01:02 PM (jZJe9)

205 What are the medical, or public health, rationales for "vaccinating" any normal person under 30 with a non-sterilizing vaccine against a virus that has at most flu-like risk for this demo?

Posted by: rhomboid at January 16, 2022 01:01 PM (OTzUX)

Choice. And that is the only sane one.

Like the flu vaccine. It is modestly effective. I get it because that is my choice. But I will not be forced to get it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 01:03 PM (Q9lwr)

206 Haven't followed the actual medical side as closely, but I thought remdisivir was racking up some really bad stats, in terms of efficacy. Steroids was a key one learned during the first round, pretty important.

Some of us have been supplementing C, D, and zinc for a while (and even did so, selectively, in the past, precisely for immune system fortification).

Posted by: rhomboid at January 16, 2022 01:03 PM (OTzUX)

207 Carrots are high in vitamin C. So, obviously, doubling them in ALL chili recipes is prudent and timely.

Posted by: Tiny Tom Thumb at January 16, 2022 01:04 PM (snngm)

208 Everything I read the Jab is experimental, 2 Jabs is even more, 3 is more so.
The only thing approved was 3 card Monty game and no one got it.

Posted by: Skip at January 16, 2022 01:05 PM (2JoB8)

209 Carrots are high in vitamin C. So, obviously, doubling them in ALL chili recipes is prudent and timely.
Posted by: Tiny Tom Thumb at January 16, 2022 01:04 PM (snngm)

That goes without saying. Really. Don't say that.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 16, 2022 01:05 PM (yQpMk)

210 I thought remdisivir was racking up some really bad stats, in terms of efficacy. Steroids was a key one learned during the first round, pretty important.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 16, 2022 01:03 PM (OTzUX)

Yup. The data are mediocre. Mostly because they are using it far too frequently. Because it's $2,600 and why the fvck not!

But my anecdotal evidence is that it worked extremely well and quickly on me. The steroids don't explain the moderation of all of the other symptoms.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 01:06 PM (Q9lwr)

211 Before covid I didn't have any report of low vitamin d levels for several years. Bloodwork done a few weeks post covid was low vitamin d levels.

So did the covid deplete the vitamin d? Or did a low D situation make me more susceptible to covid? My doc couldn't answer this.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 16, 2022 01:06 PM (Vxu+H)

212 Glad to hear you're back in the game CBD and thanks for the post. I'm one of 2 in the whole family who haven't got sick, yet. Nice to see what I can expect if the wolf gets in the door.

Posted by: dartist at January 16, 2022 01:06 PM (+ya+t)

213 175 Regarding the Islamic freedom fighter there is one question that I would like answered. How did a British citizen with an imprisoned Islamic terrorist sibling get into our country and arm himself with a firearm and explosives?
Posted by: Sock Monkey * be ungovernable at January 16, 2022 12:53 PM (7qvSd)

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Apparently she's his 'sister in Islam,' not an actual relative.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 16, 2022 12:56 PM (2iDSr)

...

Maybe we should set up our no-fly lists based on the way they define relationships.

Posted by: TexasDan at January 16, 2022 01:07 PM (bIw8b)

214 199 Police are investigating suspects with ties to rival rapper Charmy Army Eeyore...
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at January 16, 2022 01:01 PM (jYQlA

Isn't he the brother of Loopy Poopy Tango? Great Czech rapper.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 16, 2022 01:07 PM (Fs5vw)

215 In my own Office I am careful but when I am treating patients in a Military Treatment Facility, where the patients are being seen by many different DRs and I do not necessarily know the patients, I check, double check, and triple check the chart and the patient to be 100% sure

From knowing you here in gray box land, I have no doubt that's the case. Kuddos. My experience was just a minor foul up. Caused a little angst for me but that's what a hot iron is for. Heh.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 16, 2022 01:07 PM (Xrfse)

216 I wish all these stupid dicks on the TV, with no data to back it up, keep saying EVERYONE will catch the WuFlu

My guess is most people who catch the shit can trace were they might have contracted the shit, if they give a good try

Posted by: REDACTED at January 16, 2022 01:07 PM (us2H3)

217 206 Haven't followed the actual medical side as closely, but I thought remdisivir was racking up some really bad stats, in terms of efficacy. Steroids was a key one learned during the first round, pretty important.

Some of us have been supplementing C, D, and zinc for a while (and even did so, selectively, in the past, precisely for immune system fortification).
Posted by: rhomboid at January 16, 2022 01:03 PM (OTzUX)

It was for original and Delta, but in blood cancer patients with Omicron, it's proving very useful...CLLSociety.org has some very recent stats...

Posted by: Nova local at January 16, 2022 01:07 PM (exHjb)

218 A question I've never had answered is that I take asthma meds twice daily, via inhaler. plus a rescue inhaler as required, which is seldom. It is a low level steroid, plus zinc, C, D3 and vitamins CO, CI and BN.

Coffee, Cigars and Bourbon.
I've not had any issues at all. Am I being accidentally protected by this regimen?

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at January 16, 2022 01:08 PM (NlVMd)

219 CBD, thanks, but I was asking what is the public health rationale for *compelling* vaccination in this instance?

"Choice" is the logical conclusion of a serious analysis of the situation, but I'm wondering what logical reasoning I'm missing that makes mandating vaccines for healthy younger people sane, in any framework. They face little risk, they get little benefit. The shots don't prevent transmission.

What's the reasoning for even suggesting, much less requiring, this demo (i.e., much of society) get the shot(s)?

And not sure about hospitalization, but I believe two very large British and Dutch studies of decades of data reveal no mortality reduction from flu shots.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 16, 2022 01:08 PM (OTzUX)

220 Kid was vaxxed and boosted and still got delta. Scratchy throat and sniffles. No fever or cough. No meds. Worked every day and did quarantine. Dealing with the county health dept sucked balls.

Posted by: nckate at January 16, 2022 01:09 PM (z5Nun)

221 Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at January 16, 2022 12:48 PM (II3Gr)

Mentioning EMR to Alex the Chick is a good way to get a lengthy rant about auto-filling parental health issues into her records when she's adopted.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 16, 2022 01:10 PM (nC+QA)

222 Direct TV, owned by ATT, just announced they will not renew the contract with One America News.

A contract that gave the Right leaning network the vast majority of its revenue.

the silencing, continues.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 16, 2022 01:10 PM (oHd/0)

223 The lab used by my PCP has a photo of the patient attached to their record. Not only do they scan the wrist band but they have a photo, and they ask for your DOB.

I was on their portal the other day as it's what they use for all medical stuff now, even requesting prescription refills. I can edit my personal info and photo.

That seems... wrong.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 16, 2022 01:10 PM (BFigT)

224 Low vitamin d makes coof worse

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 16, 2022 01:11 PM (F4b8f)

225 Celebratory haiku:

Glad you are better.
The Dildo beat the 'Rona:
A moron's journey.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at January 16, 2022 01:11 PM (SwUU0)

226 One comment on hospital food. It tends to be better M-F at breakfast and lunch when the administrators might amble over for a meal (or have it delivered to them). It sucks after 5p. If they could replace the food with Purina Patient Chow, they would, but fortunately that is not a real thing.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 01:11 PM (ONvIw)

227 Direct TV, owned by ATT, just announced they will not renew the contract with One America News.

*

I'm betting one of, if not THE, most watched news channel, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - wondering about using horse paste or my preferred 1% liquid, read the comments at January 16, 2022 01:11 PM (jZJe9)

228 Imagine if the feds and medical community had approached fentanyl and heroin the way we were made to think about COVID.

St. Floyd would still be with us. Well, in prison, but not dead, I mean.

Posted by: Methos at January 16, 2022 01:11 PM (kOpft)

229 In my own Office I am careful but when I am treating patients in a Military Treatment Facility, where the patients are being seen by many different DRs and I do not necessarily know the patients, I check, double check, and triple check the chart and the patient to be 100% sure

From knowing you here in gray box land, I have no doubt that's the case. Kuddos. My experience was just a minor foul up. Caused a little angst for me but that's what a hot iron is for. Heh.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 16, 2022 01:07 PM (Xrfse)

No I am agreeing with you. Because mistakes do happen, and all to often: Wrong site surgeries and wrong chart. THAT is why I am so careful. I like to sleep at night

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 01:12 PM (Irn0L)

230 Al "soylent" Green says people will change their positions

however, he, a card carry racist, will never change

Posted by: REDACTED at January 16, 2022 01:12 PM (us2H3)

231 Glad you are better.
The Dildo beat the 'Rona:
A moron's journey.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at January 16, 2022 01:11 PM (SwUU0)
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Well, hello there! You been busy?

Posted by: bluebell at January 16, 2022 01:13 PM (wyw4S)

232 This C19 event has unfortunately damaged the credibility of the medical profession.
Why limit inexpensive therapeutic treatments?
Why deny care to the unvaccinated (like my own HMO does)?
I never felt this way before, I don't like it.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 16, 2022 01:13 PM (jTmQV)

233 Imagine if the feds and medical community had approached fentanyl and heroin the way we were made to think about COVID.

Posted by: Methos at January 16, 2022 01:11 PM (kOpft)
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Make that "fentanyl, heroin, and AIDS."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 16, 2022 01:14 PM (BpI5R)

234 No I am agreeing with you. Because mistakes do happen, and all to often: Wrong site surgeries and wrong chart. THAT is why I am so careful. I like to sleep at night
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 01:12 PM (Irn0L)

Always pays to triple check that you have the right chart.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 01:15 PM (ONvIw)

235 Only thing I have thought are Dr Malone saying very early many were looking for any treatment possible and the powers ( no doubt Fauci among them) said We will Vax our way out, stop everything else. And from that Big Pharma was on the cash cow teats sucking in billions of tax money.

Posted by: Skip at January 16, 2022 01:16 PM (2JoB8)

236 studies have found that a sure fire immunity against the Crud is a sense of humor

Posted by: REDACTED at January 16, 2022 01:16 PM (us2H3)

237 This C19 event has unfortunately damaged the credibility of the medical profession.
Why limit inexpensive therapeutic treatments?
Why deny care to the unvaccinated (like my own HMO does)?
I never felt this way before, I don't like it.

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The restriction of off-label medication because of politics (and profits) while fully embracing off-label medication for politics such as tranny kids is what has damaged them the most to me. The article linked in comment #111 addresses it nicely, and has some really good points. The part where they say "it's not FDA approved for treating COVID" especially, since apparently that's not the FDA's role.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - wondering about using horse paste or my preferred 1% liquid, read the comments at January 16, 2022 01:16 PM (jZJe9)

238 I am glad to hear that you are no longer sous temps.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at January 16, 2022 01:17 PM (SH2Zi)

239 36 Djokovic has been deported from Australia , the Karen country of the world.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 16, 2022 12:18 PM (RJMSR)

I'm quite disappointed that some of the top players in the world didn't pull out of the tournament in solidarity. Looking at you, Rafa Nadal.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 16, 2022 01:17 PM (mdjgu)

240 Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 16, 2022 01:13 PM (jTmQV)

More, it has really shown what our Government thinks of the concept of the sovereign citizen. Rights are no longer rights, but a privilege that can be taken at whim, by those in power... apparently with no consequence.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 16, 2022 01:17 PM (oHd/0)

241 More, it has really shown what our Government thinks of the concept of the sovereign citizen. Rights are no longer rights, but a privilege that can be taken at whim, by those in power... apparently with no consequence.

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And half the country agrees.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - wondering about using horse paste or my preferred 1% liquid, read the comments at January 16, 2022 01:18 PM (jZJe9)

242
I'm quite disappointed that some of the top players in the world didn't pull out of the tournament in solidarity. Looking at you, Rafa Nadal.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 16, 2022 01:17 PM (mdjgu)

I do not think they like him and also many of them are also sheepeople

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 01:18 PM (Irn0L)

243 You're full of shit CBD.

1) The vaccines are neither safe , nor effective.
2) Ivermectin is both safe and ridiculously cheap. Over 3.7 billion with a B doses were given away to third world countries to fight parasites. Totally safe and effective.
3) The Deep State wants us dependent upon them. Freedom of choice is out of fashion.
4) Not only are the vaccines ineffective, they are dangerous. Microclots are hitting folks with strokes and myocarditis.

Getting the Omicron version has been seen to be an effective protection from the earlier, more deadly, version, e.g Delta. See Dr. John Campbell's videos on youtube.

The plandemic is effectively over. Thank you Lord that Omicron is killing it.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 16, 2022 01:19 PM (smVBh)

244 I'm quite disappointed that some of the top players in the world didn't pull out of the tournament in solidarity. Looking at you, Rafa Nadal.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 16, 2022 01:17 PM (mdjgu)

studies have shown that once tennis players get the balls in their hands, they rarely pull out

Posted by: REDACTED at January 16, 2022 01:19 PM (us2H3)

245 Make that "fentanyl, heroin, and AIDS."
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Yeah, what you said, JGuevara.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 16, 2022 01:19 PM (MIKMs)

246 It seems like the monoclonal antibodies are the hot treatment now. I get that they worked well against Delta covid strain and I have zero medical training but I wonder how much good they can do if a person has the omicron strain. I also wonder if the hospitals can even tell which strain one has to know if a patient has Delta or is just getting hit harder than usual by omicron. How costly is the test to determine exact strain? and how long does it take?

Information that I'd go to CDC website or maybe Johns Hopkins in the past to see if they have anything posted; but now I actively distrust the CDC and don't really trust Johns Hopkins et al.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 16, 2022 01:19 PM (3cGpq)

247 I'm a physician. I've been around Covid patients every day since the beginning. Never sick. Had Covid last week. Didn't need to go to the hospital. My wife was sick three days after me. This being TX limited monoclonal antibodies have been available so none of that. Both took Ivermectin.

Posted by: Aviator at January 16, 2022 01:19 PM (HQ9Sl)

248 The Tampa Bay Bradys just scored the game's first TD.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at January 16, 2022 01:20 PM (jYQlA)

249 So much for pre-existing conditions Leftists screamed about 10 years ago.

Posted by: Skip at January 16, 2022 01:20 PM (2JoB8)

250 241 More, it has really shown what our Government thinks of the concept of the sovereign citizen. Rights are no longer rights, but a privilege that can be taken at whim, by those in power... apparently with no consequence.

And half the country agrees.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - wondering about using horse paste or my preferred 1% liquid, read the comments at January 16, 2022 01:18 PM (jZJe9)

Which is exactly why the Founders gave us a Republic, not a Democracy... too bad it changed somewhere.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 16, 2022 01:20 PM (oHd/0)

251 I was asking what is the public health rationale for *compelling* vaccination in this instance?

Posted by: rhomboid at January 16, 2022 01:08 PM (OTzUX)

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"You will demonstrate compliance."

That's the 'public health rationale.'

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 16, 2022 01:21 PM (ikIMD)

252 >>>But my anecdotal evidence is that it worked extremely well and quickly on me. The steroids don't explain the moderation of all of the other symptoms.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 01:06 PM (Q9lwr)

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I began feeling better almost immediately after they started me on remdesivir, though I did not enjoy the anti-clot shots to the stomach ever 8 hours. But by far the worst was using the spirometer. That was like having someone stick an ice pick in my lungs.

Posted by: Turn Two at January 16, 2022 01:22 PM (jPtGI)

253 Let me rephrase that.

CBD, you are quite mistaken.

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Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 16, 2022 01:22 PM (smVBh)

254 Google:

site:rumble.com "Being a Pureblood is the New Win"

for a tiny minority take on experimental gene-the-rapy "vaccination."

Posted by: Marooned at January 16, 2022 01:22 PM (w6hJ9)

255 One thing I think that most of us can agree on is that Obamacare ushered in an era of rather alarming decline in medical services and care. There are, of course, exceptions. A good practitioner will always try to do what's right. Unfortunately the monstrous bureaucracy that Tooncescare spawned has been a disaster. Socialism never works, every time it's tried.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 16, 2022 01:23 PM (Xrfse)

256 The vaccines are neither safe , nor effective.

I agree that by the standards that the FDA and other worldwide organizations use, the shot is unsafe (that is, it has a rate of side effects and dangerous results that is over a given threshold). But the incidents of bad effects directly attributable to the shot are relatively few if highly publicized on right leaning sites and social media posts.

I suspect that the chances of you getting an unfortunate side effect is higher than the odds of you dying from the Wuhan Flu, but the odds of the shot killing you is about the same or less.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 01:23 PM (KZzsI)

257 253 Let me rephrase that.

CBD, you are quite mistaken.

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Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 16, 2022 01:22 PM (smVBh)

LMAO !!

Posted by: REDACTED at January 16, 2022 01:23 PM (us2H3)

258 Let me rephrase that.

CBD, you are quite mistaken.

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Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 16, 2022 01:22 PM (smVBh)

Reread your notes from Charm School? LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 01:23 PM (Irn0L)

259 I'm a physician. I've been around Covid patients every day since the beginning. Never sick. Had Covid last week. Didn't need to go to the hospital. My wife was sick three days after me. This being TX limited monoclonal antibodies have been available so none of that. Both took Ivermectin.
Posted by: Aviator

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Yeah, there was data out back in July 2020 or so showing that there was 80% natural resistance to it.

We've been taking the exact wrong approach ever since, but Trump said pussy so it's okay.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - wondering about using horse paste or my preferred 1% liquid, read the comments at January 16, 2022 01:23 PM (jZJe9)

260 The FBI states that the shooter was "singularly focused on one issue" that was not "specifically related to the rap community." and "We are continuing to work to find motive."
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And Diana Ross isn't literally his sister. He is just a defender of Motown.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 16, 2022 01:23 PM (UHVv4)

261 Good to have you back CBD!

Just got back from Costco and I'm exhausted.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at January 16, 2022 01:24 PM (nxdel)

262 ERs have always been a nightmare. My father was in his late nineties when he died. Believe me I've spent some time in the ER. You get there with your sick person at 6:30 PM, don't expect to leave before 2 or 3 AM. And while you are in that little cubicle with your sick person you will hear things from the other little cubicles. I don't know how the people who work there do it. On the upside, your sick person gets excellent treatment.

Posted by: nerdygirl at January 16, 2022 01:25 PM (+lVUW)

263 Very glad you are better. I am not part of the anti-vax purity brigade, I would take it if I thought it was a vax, I don't. The Pfizer CEO was on video saying 2 shots "offer little to no benefit". So to me, what is the point in risking an adverse effect.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 16, 2022 01:25 PM (coYBh)

264 Also, at the Rumble link above, search for "semen" for a good time.

Posted by: Marooned at January 16, 2022 01:25 PM (w6hJ9)

265 So did the covid deplete the vitamin d? Or did a low D situation make me more susceptible to covid? My doc couldn't answer this.
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We will have to cut you in half to discover the reason.

Posted by: Dr Solomon King at January 16, 2022 01:25 PM (UHVv4)

266 Information that I'd go to CDC website or maybe Johns Hopkins in the past to see if they have anything posted; but now I actively distrust the CDC and don't really trust Johns Hopkins et al.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 16, 2022 01:19 PM (3cGpq)

It's foolish to trust any Wuflu statistics. ALL of it has been corrupted.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 16, 2022 01:25 PM (Fs5vw)

267 Apropos of nothing, I now cannot imagine a time when I will believe a single thing the CDC, FDA, or NIH has to say about any subject at all.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 16, 2022 01:25 PM (yQpMk)

268 258 Let me rephrase that.

CBD, you are quite mistaken.

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Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 16, 2022 01:22 PM (smVBh)

the correct response is

Go ahead and ban me

I don't give a fuck !!

Posted by: REDACTED at January 16, 2022 01:26 PM (us2H3)

269 Good to know you're still with us.

Posted by: Grog at January 16, 2022 01:26 PM (YFj/0)

270 Let me rephrase that.

CBD,~~you are quite mistaken.~~ bless your heart.

Posted by: TexasDan at January 16, 2022 01:26 PM (bIw8b)

271 Imagine how much worse COVID would've been if we hadn't had our CDC, FDA, or NIH.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - wondering about using horse paste or my preferred 1% liquid, read the comments at January 16, 2022 01:27 PM (jZJe9)

272 Imagine how much worse COVID would've been if we hadn't had our CDC, FDA, or NIH.

We might have noticed it.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 16, 2022 01:28 PM (yQpMk)

273 32 The EMR is not the guardian of accuracy. Glad you noticed as it gets too much praise.
Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 12:16 PM (ONvIw)

My doc hates this with the heat of a thousand suns. Can't observe me/listen while typing, makes appointments last far longer than they need to, etc. We bitch about this together each time I go in.

Posted by: sal at January 16, 2022 01:28 PM (bJKUl)

274 Imagine how much worse COVID would've been if we hadn't had our CDC, FDA, or NIH.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - wondering about using horse paste or my preferred 1% liquid, read the comments at January 16, 2022 01:27 PM (jZJe9)

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All those people with heart conditions and cancer cluttering up the hospitals. Good thing we cleared them out of the way.

Posted by: TexasDan at January 16, 2022 01:28 PM (bIw8b)

275 "Go ahead and ban me"

LOL. Wouldn't be the first or second time.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 16, 2022 01:28 PM (smVBh)

276 Brady hits a guy in the mitts and he drops it

announcer says Brady isn't happy with his throws

fuck you

Posted by: REDACTED at January 16, 2022 01:29 PM (us2H3)

277 I have been unvaxxed and mask free and living normally. Going into work, interacting with people, eating out, shopping, etc. the only time I wore a mask was at the doctors/dentist office. I've been exposed many times over the last 2 years and didn't catch it.
Last Thursday came home feeling fine until about 6 and started getting a pounding headache, body aches, chills/fever, etc. I was able to get a televisit appointment on Friday at 4. She sent me for a test right afterwards at the office. I knew by 5 I had it. I am high risk because I have a stent from a heartache 5 years ago and am overweight. She tried to prescribe Paxlovid but it is not available, it must be started in the first 5 days. She also referred me for a monoclonal infusion and they gave me an appointment for Thursday as long as they have some. I started taking horse paste yesterday. I just feel fatigued and started coughing last night.

Posted by: lin-duh at January 16, 2022 01:29 PM (UUBmN)

278 LOL. Wouldn't be the first or second time.

The returnees always baffle me. Why would I want to comment somewhere that doesn't want me to comment there? You don't see me getting banned over at DU.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 16, 2022 01:29 PM (yQpMk)

279 It's foolish to trust any Wuflu statistics. ALL of it has been corrupted.

This is important to remember. This stuff has become so politicized that you can fully trust NOTHING you hear about it. Not stats, not info on how safe or danger it is, how many died or did not die, how well or poorly the vaccine works, none of it. Not one thing.

Every single main source has its bias, and the nature of this has them pushing a certain point of view to the exclusion of other points of view. Analysis like ace or CBD does or others can be totally honest and balanced as they are trying hard to be, but they are dealing with biased, dishonest sources of information.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 01:29 PM (KZzsI)

280 275 "Go ahead and ban me"

LOL. Wouldn't be the first or second time.
Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 16, 2022 01:28 PM (smVBh)

fucking rookies

Posted by: REDACTED at January 16, 2022 01:29 PM (us2H3)

281 Maybe we should have just referred to this as the Wuhan Flu from day one and not let the weirdos in D.C. get us all wound up on SARS-CoV-19, bat shit stuff and bioweapons?

Manufactured crisis, again.

I'd bet next year at this time we'll be back to chicken soup, aspirin and a box of Kleenex.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 16, 2022 01:30 PM (BFigT)

282 My doc hates this with the heat of a thousand suns. Can't observe me/listen while typing, makes appointments last far longer than they need to, etc. We bitch about this together each time I go in.
Posted by: sal at January 16, 2022 01:28 PM (bJKUl)

And there will always be, as Ron Klain puts it, work arounds.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 01:30 PM (ONvIw)

283 . I don't know how the people who work there do it. On the upside, your sick person gets excellent treatment.
Posted by: nerdygirl

My sainted mother was a RN for 50 years at the same hospital. The first 30 years of her career were in the ER. I did not fully realize what that demonstrated about her character until I listened to the praise given by so many people at her funeral. Doctors, fellow nurses, police and firefighters all had stories to tell about their experiences with her.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * be ungovernable at January 16, 2022 01:30 PM (7qvSd)

284 I was "out of line" and made offensive comments. I love this place and repented of my "getting drunk and posting stupid and nasty shit."

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 16, 2022 01:31 PM (smVBh)

285 But the incidents of bad effects directly attributable to the shot are relatively few if highly publicized on right leaning sites and social media posts.

I suspect that the chances of you getting an unfortunate side effect is higher than the odds of you dying from the Wuhan Flu, but the odds of the shot killing you is about the same or less.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 01:23 PM (KZzsI

Relatively few? This is the first time in my life that I have known people who have more than a sore arm and a blah feeling after a vaccine. My family/friends/acquaintances range from just fine to dead after the Covid shots. And I'm talking several deaths in my circles.

Posted by: Emmie -- support your local Moron at January 16, 2022 01:32 PM (6RgRK)

286 lin-duh, check with Aviator for how often to take the ivermectin.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 16, 2022 01:32 PM (tG7ec)

287 Re: supplementing vitamin C - maybe for acute reasons, but if you are regularly supplementing vitamin C, you need to change what you're eating. C is incredibly easy to get: tropical fruits, cruciferous veggies, even corn, have vitamin C. You need to be eating those, not pasta and bread except as a treat to go along with those things (you know, like a Reuben with kraut (which is fermented white cabbage, a cruciferous veggie)).

Posted by: SFGoth at January 16, 2022 01:33 PM (KAi1n)

288 I tested positive in mid Nov for covid and I really felt like crap for several days. After testing positive I was told to stay at home, drink plenty of fluids and get plenty of rest, that's it. Since recovering, I'm in the process of putting together a I-MASK+ kit in case I need it in the future (I'm getting the Ivermectin from ReliableRxPharmacy).

This whole thing stinks to high heaven with the only approach used here being the clot shot. Hopefully one day we'll see Dr Fuacia swinging from a rope.

Posted by: Kat_man at January 16, 2022 01:33 PM (0SIK0)

289 The silver lining is now you can stick your dick in covid, as Ace says.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 16, 2022 01:33 PM (coYBh)

290 The incidence of injection of the Moderna vaccine into the blood stream is 1.7 something percent. Much higher than the death rate of healthy folks getting the virus. Those folks are seriously fooked. They don't call it the "clot-shot" for nothing.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 16, 2022 01:34 PM (smVBh)

291 Relatively few? This is the first time in my life that I have known people who have more than a sore arm and a blah feeling after a vaccine. My family/friends/acquaintances range from just fine to dead after the Covid shots. And I'm talking several deaths in my circles.
Posted by: Emmie -- support your local Moron at January 16, 2022 01:32 PM (6RgRK)

You haven't known too many that got the Shingles vax, then...holy crap on that one, especially the younger you ware. There's a reason they won't go under 50 for giving it, unless you are immunocompromised...

Posted by: Nova local at January 16, 2022 01:34 PM (exHjb)

292 284 I was "out of line" and made offensive comments. I love this place and repented of my "getting drunk and posting stupid and nasty shit."
Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 16, 2022 01:31 PM (smVBh)

never repent , NEVER

Posted by: REDACTED at January 16, 2022 01:34 PM (us2H3)

293 "you are" not you ware (putting were and are together for a new word

- still weekend brain typing...

Posted by: Nova local at January 16, 2022 01:35 PM (exHjb)

294 >>Posted by: lin-duh

Very similar symptoms. Both my wife and I were much better at 5 days. The fatigue hangs on some though.

Hope you are feeling better soon.

Posted by: Aviator at January 16, 2022 01:35 PM (HQ9Sl)

295 I'm glad to hear they got that fvcking terrorist and no one else got hurt at that synagogue.

Posted by: dartist at January 16, 2022 01:35 PM (+ya+t)

296 This is the first time in my life that I have known people who have more than a sore arm and a blah feeling after a vaccine.

Well, let's put it this way. The side effects of the shot are unusual for something being labeled a vaccine, but its not unusual for a medical treatment. If you take a pill to fix something on you, chances are you'll have at least one of the side effects (diarrhea, dry mouth, dizziness, uneven tire wear, etc). Its normal to feel SOME side effects from medicine.

There's a criteria for a medicine that gets pulled and "makes you feel bad briefly or have a side effect of any sort" is not sufficient.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 01:35 PM (KZzsI)

297 Philly's punter is a tosser

Posted by: REDACTED at January 16, 2022 01:36 PM (us2H3)

298 Repent. but never apologize. Your friends don't need it and your enemies won't accept it.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 16, 2022 01:36 PM (smVBh)

299 You're full of shit CBD.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 16, 2022 01:19 PM (smVBh)

And I'll see you in a week when your time-out is over.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 01:36 PM (Q9lwr)

300 I am sure that my ISP will give me a new hash before then.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 16, 2022 01:37 PM (smVBh)

301 I am currently in Day 7 of my bout with the 'Rona. Went to the ER on Day 1 because I had rapidly spiked a 101.5 fever. Since I was dealing with injuries suffered on NYE, I wanted to make sure that they hadn't turned septic. I popped positive for the 'Vid instead. My O2 levels were normal, and I could still take deep breaths, so they gave me scrips for an inhaler and a cough suppressant to use "when needed." They didn't even ask if I was vaxxed (I'm not.) I felt perfectly fine at discharge. The head congestion hit the next day, along with the aches and fatigue. I finally developed the "Covid Cough" on Day 3, which at first was just an occasional cough. Yesterday was horrible -- I had an attack that went on for 10 minutes and I thought I was going to pass out because I couldn't catch my breath, and the fever spiked again. I am not looking forward to the next few weeks.

Posted by: goozer at January 16, 2022 01:37 PM (PtK0Q)

302 Hi, I'm Dr. Fauci and I'll be your attending physician for the duration of your stay.

Now strip off those clothes and gimme your wallet, bitch!

Posted by: Dr. Fauci at January 16, 2022 01:38 PM (6liew)

303 prod of my wife telling her Karen doc

and if I get the vax and it goes south, you're gonna make me whole

Posted by: REDACTED at January 16, 2022 01:38 PM (us2H3)

304 Hey Aviator,
Hope you're feeling all better! Did you develop a cough or fatigue?

Posted by: lin-duh at January 16, 2022 01:39 PM (UUBmN)

305 I noticed at Costco there was plenty of everything. No limit on TP and water like there was during the plandemic. I did buy the Kirklands lasagne since a moron recommended it. I can't remember who it was.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at January 16, 2022 01:39 PM (nxdel)

306 I was "out of line" and made offensive comments.
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Never apologize, it shows a sign of weakness.

J.Wayne

Posted by: dartist at January 16, 2022 01:39 PM (+ya+t)

307 Our son and his fianc�e came down with omicron last Tuesday. She was at home in SC, and they had the same symptoms. Son had severe chills and a fever of 100.7, a headache, and fatigue. I ran over and gave him Zicam, D3, quercetin, Gatorade, and lots of soup.

He was much, much better the next day, with a very mild fever and body aches, and by Thursday felt completely well, but had to quarantine.

He was double vaxxed at the VA, but I urged him not to get the booster because of the risk of mitochondrial issues, and so he didn't get the third jab.

He said the omicron was no worse than the last flu bug or really nasty cold he had.

So far, husband and I continue being busy and out and about maskless. Taking elderberry, zinc, D3, and C since the Wuhan flu hit our shores.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 16, 2022 01:39 PM (ptqGC)

308 Philly's punter is a tosser
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Isn't that a penalty??

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 16, 2022 01:40 PM (UHVv4)

309
295 I'm glad to hear they got that fvcking terrorist and no one else got hurt at that synagogue.
Posted by: dartist at January 16, 2022 01:35 PM (+ya+t)

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Nobody shot except the guy who had it coming. But being held hostage at gunpoint by an unstable nut-boy is an injury, in a way.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 16, 2022 01:40 PM (2iDSr)

310 That rest and fluids unless you get horribly ill is SOP for all cold and flu cases for decades. It kind of pisses me off that only last spring with covid did I learn that ivermectin is an antiviral. I, knock wood, have only gotten flu once or twice. But even so, I had horse wormer around 15 years ago when a flu did hit me pretty hard. And what is up with docs not telling people to take D, C and zinc along with the fluids? Do they have to worry that retards will take 10 to 20 times as much as recommended to try to super speed recovery?

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 16, 2022 01:40 PM (3cGpq)

311 218 early on in this, the French realized smokers were not getting it at the same levels, and they have a lot of them. Research on a vaccine was coming from big tobacco, ala BTI. All of that got quashed pretty quickly, but you can still find it online I suppose

My guess is it simply did not work I found it interesting and weird it just disappeared like that. I like to mention odd, real things from time to time. I got the vibe recently that someone thought I promoted tobacco use. Nothing could be further from the truth. I don't smoke and would never recommend it to anyone

Posted by: Quint at January 16, 2022 01:41 PM (k5Y2L)

312 The COOF is merely the biowarfare component of unlimited warfare being waged against the US by the elites in alliance with the Deep State and the CCP. Unlimited Warfare uses every means available to reach its objective, in this case the objective is The Great Reset. Biowarfare, Information WarfarePsychological Warfare (manifesting the Mass Formation Psychosis), Lawfare, Political Warfare, whatever it takes to affect The Great Reset.

The most evil aspect of this unlimited warfare is that creating civilian deaths are part of The Great Reset. Billions must die.

The Great Reset is The Final Solution for everybody in the world so the elites can bring about their utopia of a socialist ideal for all. You will own nothing and like it. If you are allowed to live.

Posted by: Minuteman at January 16, 2022 01:41 PM (LaNzR)

313 And after having Covid CBD has now developed a fondness for French toast with maple syrup.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 16, 2022 01:42 PM (NpAcC)

314 This is the first time in my life that I have known people who have more than a sore arm and a blah feeling after a vaccine.
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Well, let's put it this way. The side effects of the shot are unusual for something being labeled a vaccine, but its not unusual for a medical treatment....

**

And that's the part that's so bizarre to me. People just accept that it's completely normal. Old ladies at church talk about not looking forward to their boosters because they know it's going to make them feel horrible for a few days afterwards.

But there's no virus in the injection, so why is it hurting people so badly? And why are people just accepting that it's going to damage them?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - wondering about using horse paste or my preferred 1% liquid, read the comments at January 16, 2022 01:42 PM (jZJe9)

315 1st - CBD, glad you made it and are doing well.

31 CBD was in the Hospital for rich people near us.
I tried to get him transferred to ST Joseph's in Paterson with all the Arabs but he must have more pull than me?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 12:15 PM (Irn0L)
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This cannot be overemphasized. A doc who graduates last in his class is still Doctor.

Go to the doctor listing website of the best medical facility in your area and and choose a primary from that list. After you are established with a primary who has privileges at that facility you will always be referred to specialists in that facility.

You will be *in the system*. When, and you will, get sick you don't want to be sent to 'ST Joseph's in Paterson'.

Posted by: Braenyard beating a dead horse at January 16, 2022 01:42 PM (U9XSa)

316 308 Philly's punter is a tosser
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Isn't that a penalty??
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 16, 2022 01:40 PM (UHVv4)

get your cheese creamed

Posted by: REDACTED at January 16, 2022 01:42 PM (us2H3)

317 Unbelievably, one of the Australian government lawyer's main arguments is that Djokovic may become "an icon of free choice".

Posted by: andycanuck

They think deporting and banning him makes it less likely he becomes an icon?
They really don't understand human nature, do they?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at January 16, 2022 01:42 PM (lCui1)

318 The Frogs were giving their emergency workers nicotine patches early on.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 16, 2022 01:43 PM (UHVv4)

319 I check on my hospitals emr for vaccine stays on the inpatients and ER patients with COVID. Most have been vaccinated. And my wife got it after three jabs

Posted by: Avi at January 16, 2022 01:43 PM (fxFdx)

320 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 01:23 PM (KZzsI)

What you are talking about is the primary failing of Pharma and government regulators.

The only numbers that should matter are the risk/benefit analysis for every cohort.

80+ years old? Probably much better off with the vaccine.

25 years old? I doubt it is anywhere near a net benefit.

But the unholy alliance between Pharma and government has created chaos in the medical statistics, and all for profit, whether monetary or power...it doesn't really matter.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 01:43 PM (Q9lwr)

321 Lurking wasn't wrong, just uncooth. It was a single issue.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 16, 2022 01:44 PM (F4b8f)

322 Glad to see you're back to work and feeling better - more or less. Somehow I've avoided this the entire time, and am only half-vaxxed.

Hope OM is doing ok, what a crazy-ass virus this is. And sorry lin-duh managed to get it. I'll be interested to hear if the horse paste helps - although it's so hard to tell. I'm considering getting some to use as a prophylaxis. Hopefully we're on the tail end of this garbage, and our brilliant leaders are forced to move onto something else as a distraction - preferably something that doesn't involve the military.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at January 16, 2022 01:44 PM (wAnMi)

323 >>>But there's no virus in the injection, so why is it hurting people so badly? And why are people just accepting that it's going to damage them?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - wondering
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Love hurts

Posted by: Braenyard beating a dead horse at January 16, 2022 01:44 PM (U9XSa)

324 I am glad you are ok CBD. My guess is delta. I had the sore throat and fever two weeks ago. That is my second fever in 30 years. The other one was after the second jab. I pretty much had nowhere to go or test. After a few days, at least the fever was gone.

Posted by: Quint at January 16, 2022 01:45 PM (k5Y2L)

325 The Frogs were giving their emergency workers nicotine patches early on.
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 16, 2022 01:43 PM (UHVv4)

And now they're thinking that Viagra might actually help? Too bad that involves giving Pfizer money - or are we past patent time on that?

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at January 16, 2022 01:45 PM (wAnMi)

326 Never apologize, it shows a sign of weakness.

J.Wayne
Posted by: dartist

Oops. Sorry. I won't apologize again.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 16, 2022 01:45 PM (F4b8f)

327 Why were monoclonal antibodies unavailable?

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 16, 2022 01:45 PM (ikXZL)

328 Unbelievably, one of the Australian government lawyer's main arguments is that Djokovic may become "an icon of free choice".

Wish we'd just cut off diplomatic relations with the Aussies and New Zealanders. I'm more willing to do work in Russia at this point.

Posted by: The Way It Is at January 16, 2022 01:46 PM (Ny/l2)

329 >>Hey Aviator,
Hope you're feeling all better! Did you develop a cough or fatigue?
Posted by: lin-duh

Had a cough that hurt. I held a pillow to my chest like they have the open heart patients do when they cough. Still a slight cough. The fatigue sucks. I spent most of one day trying to gather the energy to take a shower. Hangs around a while.

Posted by: Aviator at January 16, 2022 01:46 PM (HQ9Sl)

330 Well, if nothing else the coof has provided us with 2+ years of "spirited debate". Heh.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 16, 2022 01:46 PM (Xrfse)

331 Why were monoclonal antibodies unavailable?

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 16, 2022 01:45 PM (ikXZL)

FJB

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 01:46 PM (Q9lwr)

332 Lurking wasn't wrong, just uncooth. It was a single issue.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 16, 2022 01:44 PM (F4b8f)

Is being cooth a requirement to be here? Because if it is, I am in deep doodoo

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 01:46 PM (Irn0L)

333 Maybe the volcano was a warning to Australia.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 16, 2022 01:46 PM (F4b8f)

334 I have to go to my nieces wedding in a couple of weeks. If I don't catch the coof it'll be because of a minor miracle and shots of booze. Just in case I made a big pot of chicken soup to freeze.

Posted by: dartist at January 16, 2022 01:46 PM (+ya+t)

335 maybe, no one should be banned, ever

Posted by: REDACTED at January 16, 2022 01:46 PM (us2H3)

336 Megthered, glad you and yours are doing well.

Posted by: Braenyard beating a dead horse at January 16, 2022 01:47 PM (U9XSa)

337 Why were monoclonal antibodies unavailable?
Posted by: Muad'dib
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Because the government controls the distribution of them and Brandon cut it off because...reasons...said because omnicrom is mild or something...

Posted by: lin-duh at January 16, 2022 01:47 PM (UUBmN)

338 I am glad you are ok CBD. My guess is delta.

Posted by: Quint at January 16, 2022 01:45 PM (k5Y2L)

That's my guess too.

But in the grand scheme of things everything went fine. I got good medical care, good nursing care, I got better quickly, and I was much better off than my room-mates!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 01:48 PM (Q9lwr)

339 CBD
Glad you're recovered.

But did they test for norms??

Were your norms not restored before discharge?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice. Asymptomatic raycist at January 16, 2022 01:48 PM (3D/fK)

340 I don't know if I'd say the vaccines are even modestly effective. And by everything Im seeing, it is basically Russian Roulette given the injuries and deaths it causes.
The scope of which is actively being covered up and/or blamed on other factors.

Posted by: David Groenier at January 16, 2022 01:48 PM (DwnPl)

341 At one point French pharma companies were banned from exporting nicotine gum. They thought it might be a strategic reserve. This was very early on so any news links would likely be two years old

Posted by: Quint at January 16, 2022 01:48 PM (k5Y2L)

342 But the unholy alliance between Pharma and government has created chaos in the medical statistics, and all for profit, whether monetary or power...it doesn't really matter.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

That's a 32 oz framing hammer hitting the nail dead square on.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * be ungovernable at January 16, 2022 01:49 PM (7qvSd)

343 Were your norms not restored before discharge?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice. Asymptomatic raycist at January 16, 2022 01:48 PM (3D/fK)

Spine removal surgery?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 01:49 PM (Q9lwr)

344 Oops. Sorry. I won't apologize again.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at January 16, 2022 01:49 PM (lCui1)

345 >FJB
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 01:46 PM (Q9lwr)

FFS

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 16, 2022 01:49 PM (ikXZL)

346 The events of last year set medicine back to the middle ages. Masks, distancing, lockdowns, vaccines, testing threw out objective reasoning and reduced medical science to superstitious belief in the pronouncements of a credentialed cotery of self serving bureaucrats.

Posted by: Minuteman at January 16, 2022 01:50 PM (LaNzR)

347 Scott Manley has a great vid of the tonga volcano. You can see the shockwave on the weather satellite. You can even see the shockwave propagate across the us on barometer stations. When yellowstone does that, it will be devastating.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 16, 2022 01:50 PM (F4b8f)

348 The only numbers that should matter are the risk/benefit analysis for every cohort.

80+ years old? Probably much better off with the vaccine.

25 years old? I doubt it is anywhere near a net benefit.

But the unholy alliance between Pharma and government has created chaos in the medical statistics, and all for profit, whether monetary or power...it doesn't really matter.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 01:43 PM (Q9lwr)

I will largely agree with this. The elderly and the immunocompromised should probably take it. As for the alliance, definitely and sometimes it's rather a subtle alliance. Not always major investors or kick backs. DC pols need to take a look at their staff's connections as they trust CoS and legislative aides and lean on them. It would be nice if they tried to hire their state's "home team", but as soon as they get to DC they hire PR people from big blue cities. They are nominally republican and rarely conservative.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 01:50 PM (ONvIw)

349 'or the craziness of the anti-vax purity brigade'

You're not helping with that BS CBD.

it should be

'or the craziness of the vax purity brigade'

That is the reality and you know it.

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at January 16, 2022 01:50 PM (Hh3y4)

350 But the unholy alliance between Pharma and government has created chaos in the medical statistics, and all for profit, whether monetary or power...it doesn't really matter.

I suspect that we'll reach a time when Big Pharma's lust for money and pushing their product will come into direct contradiction with the left's lust for power and money. And when that happens, we'll see all the facts coming out about extortion, fraud, lies, corruption, and manipulation of data in a series of investigations and congressional hearings.

Because right now, the Democrats are trying really hard to push the "we beat Covid, reelect us!" narrative, and Big Pharma is pushing the "WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE" narrative still.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 16, 2022 01:50 PM (KZzsI)

351
You will be *in the system*. When, and you will, get sick you don't want to be sent to 'ST Joseph's in Paterson'.

Now that place is a real Shiite hole

Posted by: Avi at January 16, 2022 01:50 PM (fxFdx)

352 Why were monoclonal antibodies unavailable?
Posted by: Muad'dib

Official reason is that monoclonal antibodies are ineffective against omicron

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at January 16, 2022 01:50 PM (lCui1)

353 Apparently the quercitin helps the zinc get to the virus hindering the virus replication, from what I read, on the internet, from people who do science, I guess. Maybe. Or not.

Hope that helps. Like the CDC.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 16, 2022 01:51 PM (coYBh)

354 Well, knowing you...

THAT ain't happening.

But that other thing...

With the hump..

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice. Asymptomatic raycist at January 16, 2022 01:51 PM (3D/fK)

355 I don't know if I'd say the vaccines are even modestly effective. And by everything Im seeing, it is basically Russian Roulette given the injuries and deaths it causes.

Posted by: David Groenier at January 16, 2022 01:48 PM (DwnPl)

I think it is probably worthwhile for certain cohorts, but with the rapidly evolving virus and a one-year-old vaccine based on a small bit of antigen, it's hard to argue with your point.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 01:51 PM (Q9lwr)

356 I get the fatigue thing. Been laying in bed for days now... really need a shower and to get something to eat...am on season 3 of GOT though.

Posted by: lin-duh at January 16, 2022 01:52 PM (UUBmN)

357 Counterfactuals are always bogus, but I intuit that we, as a nation, would have been better off if we had done nothing at all about the coof.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 16, 2022 01:52 PM (yQpMk)

358 331 Why were monoclonal antibodies unavailable?

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 16, 2022 01:45 PM (ikXZL)

In the lab I worked I remember signing for a 4"X10" box of monoclonal antibodies (would last our lab for about 18 months). It was worth $2,500,000.

Price might have something to do with it.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 16, 2022 01:52 PM (Fs5vw)

359 Worried about OM. Don't like hearing "it will be some time before he returns."

Posted by: redridinghood at January 16, 2022 01:53 PM (NpAcC)

360 So what treatment did they administer?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 16, 2022 01:53 PM (7F9te)

361 That is the reality and you know it.

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at January 16, 2022 01:50 PM (Hh3y4)

No, I don't. I think that the number of people, even on this blog, who are bitterly, nastily critical of anyone who entertains the notion of getting vaccinated is a testament to exactly the insanity I referred to.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 01:54 PM (Q9lwr)

362 I don't know much about football but these beagles don't have a chance

Posted by: REDACTED at January 16, 2022 01:54 PM (us2H3)

363 And now they're thinking that Viagra might actually help? Too bad that involves giving Pfizer money - or are we past patent time on that?
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I believe the patent ran out on Viagra. Makes me wonder what they're doing to make up for the loss of profits./

Posted by: dartist at January 16, 2022 01:54 PM (+ya+t)

364 Malik Faisal Akram, a 44-year-old British citizen, was the hostage taker

Nice mormon boy I see

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 01:55 PM (Irn0L)

365 What causes the fatigue? Is it lack of oxygen in the blood?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at January 16, 2022 01:55 PM (lCui1)

366 I am so out of touch with the NFL. Are all the ex-Alabama QBs in the play-offs?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 16, 2022 01:55 PM (yQpMk)

367 Plus side of Covid...you will lose weight!!

Posted by: lin-duh at January 16, 2022 01:55 PM (UUBmN)

368
321 Lurking wasn't wrong, just uncooth. It was a single issue.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 16, 2022 01:44 PM (F4b8f)

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When you're in someone else's house, best not to piss on the rug. It gets you what it gets you.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 16, 2022 01:55 PM (2iDSr)

369 Big Pharma's profits are not specifically related to the COVID community.
-Your Friendly FB...errr...CDC.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2022 01:55 PM (axyOa)

370 You can even see the shockwave propagate across the us on barometer stations.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 16, 2022 01:50 PM (F4b8f)

It's incredible to watch.

I wonder how much CO2 the Tonga eruption put into the atmosphere?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 01:56 PM (Q9lwr)

371 Kevin Hunter "the homework guy" who does car buying videos was on a vent for 57 days because of coof. Got sick in Aug, didn't come back to YT until Christmas.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 16, 2022 01:56 PM (F4b8f)

372 Were your norms not restored before discharge?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

*pictures Russel Crow Gladiator Meme, but with CBD's noggin photoshopped in*

"Are You're Norms Not Restored!"
bwahahahahahaha.

Seriously, dude. Glad you're back and better.

Posted by: BifBewalski (IJES/) - at January 16, 2022 01:56 PM (IJES/)

373 President Biden told reporters in Philadelphia earlier Sunday that the suspect had been arrested 15 years ago and was jailed for 10 years. The president also remarked that the suspect landed in the U.S. and might have stayed at a homeless shelter.

How the fuck did he ever get into America?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 01:57 PM (Irn0L)

374 Today I feel much better, though still a little drained.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at January 16, 2022 12:22 PM (x8Wzq)
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Hey, glad you are better.

Seems like many folks here have danced with the covid recently.

So glad everyone has made it.

Posted by: Braenyard beating a dead horse at January 16, 2022 01:57 PM (U9XSa)

375 What causes the fatigue? Is it lack of oxygen in the blood?
Posted by: vmom
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That might be it for some but my watch tells me mine has been fine. Constantly above 95% which is what it was before I had Covid.

Posted by: lin-duh at January 16, 2022 01:57 PM (UUBmN)

376 "*pictures Russel Crow Gladiator Meme, but with CBD's noggin photoshopped in*

"Are You're Norms Not Restored!"
bwahahahahahaha. "

Horde mind.

It's real.

And it's glorious.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice. Asymptomatic raycist at January 16, 2022 01:58 PM (3D/fK)

377 Late to the party... isn't an antigen test (the one typically done with "rapid" tests) more accurate for detecting COVID infection than the PCR test? Using a PCR to confirm.. well it sounds more like hospital protocol than science.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at January 16, 2022 01:58 PM (Wg1SU)

378 How the fuck did he ever get into America?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 01:57 PM (Irn0L)

You can't be serious, we let everybody in with minimal vetting.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 01:58 PM (ONvIw)

379 When you're in someone else's house, best not to piss on the rug. It gets you what it gets you.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 16, 2022 01:55 PM (2iDSr)

I would agree if you are talking about an 19th century Serapi

Home Depot rug, piss away

Posted by: REDACTED at January 16, 2022 01:58 PM (us2H3)

380 So what treatment did they administer?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger

He said not to ask about the food. i bet he healed himself so as to not eat that nasty crap.

Probably a hot iron and a sous vide were involved.
*sounds like a Penthouse Forums short story*

Posted by: BifBewalski (IJES/) - at January 16, 2022 01:58 PM (IJES/)

381 I wonder how much CO2 the Tonga eruption put into the atmosphere?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Probably more than humans did in all of history. Like Pinatubo.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 16, 2022 01:58 PM (F4b8f)

382 Malik Faisal Akram, a 44-year-old British citizen, was the hostage taker

Nice mormon boy I see
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022
***

He went to the synagogue because his original destination was a Baptist tent revival and the canvas walls reminds him too much of home.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2022 01:59 PM (axyOa)

383 Probably threw enough ash to cool the earth for a year.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 16, 2022 01:59 PM (F4b8f)

384 Posted by: Chairman LMAO at January 16, 2022 01:58 PM (Wg1SU)

The rapid tests are okay. The PCR tests are very accurate when done correctly. But it is also possible to keep amplifying the sample until you get the result you want.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 01:59 PM (Q9lwr)

385 How the fuck did he ever get into America?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 01:57 PM (Irn0L)

You can't be serious, we let everybody in with minimal vetting.
Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 01:58 PM (ONvIw)

Mostly rhetorical

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 16, 2022 01:59 PM (Irn0L)

386 Welcome back, CBD. You have been missed. Glad to hear you are on the mend.

Okay, now back to work!

Posted by: fly gal at January 16, 2022 02:00 PM (BeIQa)

387 Both my parents have the Vid, presumably the Omicron. Both are old and in poor health, particularly my Mother. And to add insult to injury, they are without power or heat from the ice storm. My mother is having to alternate the batteries on her oxygen generator and charge one in the car while using the other.

She does have some oxygen bottles if things get bad enough, and the neighbor has a whole house generator, so survival is mostly assured.

*crosses fingers*

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 16, 2022 02:00 PM (yQpMk)

388 Malik Akram's bro offers his "sincere apologies" rofl

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 02:01 PM (ONvIw)

389 I had the rapid antigen test with the PCR confirmation. They also tested me for flu. Good news... I don't have the flu!

Posted by: lin-duh at January 16, 2022 02:01 PM (UUBmN)

390 1ST NOOD

Posted by: Skip's Phone at January 16, 2022 02:01 PM (2JoB8)

391 375 What causes the fatigue? Is it lack of oxygen in the blood?
Posted by: vmom

Everyone should get an oximeter... You can get them at Amazon and if you don't do Amazon some drugstores

Posted by: It's me donna at January 16, 2022 02:02 PM (TdaKq)

392 My mother is having to alternate the batteries on her oxygen generator and charge one in the car while using the other.

She does have some oxygen bottles if things get bad enough, and the neighbor has a whole house generator, so survival is mostly assured.

*crosses fingers*
Posted by: G'rump928(c)

Prayers up. How far away are they from you? what region? could one of us help out?

Posted by: BifBewalski (IJES/) - at January 16, 2022 02:02 PM (IJES/)

393 really need a shower and to get something to eat...am on season 3 of GOT though.

Hah! Priorities! Cleanliness and nutrition are overrated.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 16, 2022 02:02 PM (coYBh)

394 383 Probably threw enough ash to cool the earth for a year.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 16, 2022 01:59 PM (F4b8f)

Dat ash, tho'.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at January 16, 2022 02:02 PM (II3Gr)

395 It's so good to have you back, CBD. Thanks for the COVID rundown.

Posted by: creeper - Unmasked, Unvaccinated, Unrepentant at January 16, 2022 02:02 PM (cTCuP)

396
I understand the hesitancy towards the horse paste and the HCQ; that's why I have plenty of NAC, Querectin, Zinc, Vit C, and Vit D.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at January 16, 2022 02:03 PM (++3nO)

397 G'rump928(c), prayers for your parents

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at January 16, 2022 02:03 PM (lCui1)

398 For those of you on phones, here is the link to the nood
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=396997

Posted by: BifBewalski (IJES/) - at January 16, 2022 02:03 PM (IJES/)

399
Why were monoclonal antibodies unavailable?
Posted by: Muad'dib

My guess?
There's no $$ in it. Or there's far less $$ in it.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at January 16, 2022 02:03 PM (++3nO)

400
would agree if you are talking about an 19th century Serapi

Home Depot rug, piss away
Posted by: REDACTED at January 16, 2022 01:58 PM (us2H3)

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The rug could be a repurposed burlap bag. It doesn't matter, it's not your rug.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 16, 2022 02:03 PM (2iDSr)

401 Posted by: G'rump928(c)
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Jeez that's terrible, I hope things get better quik.

Posted by: dartist at January 16, 2022 02:03 PM (+ya+t)

402 384
Yes, anything over 30 cycles is unreliable. Glad you got out of the hospital!

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at January 16, 2022 02:04 PM (Wg1SU)

403 Nood

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 16, 2022 02:04 PM (EZebt)

404 Prayers up. How far away are they from you? what region? could one of us help out?
Posted by: BifBewalski (IJES/) - at January 16, 2022 02:02 PM (IJES/)

Upstate SC, the Greenwood area.

My sister lives a few miles away, as does my niece and her family. Worst case they can take them in and they will be fine.

Thank you though.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 16, 2022 02:05 PM (yQpMk)

405 The family blames "mental health issues". of course

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 02:05 PM (ONvIw)

406 Like I said up thread... as long as the Feds are throwing money at Big Pharma there's going to be a pandemic of some sort or another. The billions of dollars available to the hospitals and medical community in general is strong motivation to keep the graft going. When (if) that money dries up this all goes away.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 16, 2022 02:05 PM (BFigT)

407 would agree if you are talking about an 19th century Serapi

Home Depot rug, piss away
Posted by: REDACTED at January 16, 2022 01:58 PM (us2H3)

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The rug could be a repurposed burlap bag. It doesn't matter, it's not your rug.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 16, 2022 02:03 PM (2iDSr)

no one with the appropriate amount of coothness would lay claim to such a thing

Posted by: REDACTED at January 16, 2022 02:05 PM (us2H3)

408
Isn't the better question: How are all these radical muslim imports (and other illegals) ending up in places such as Texas and Minnesota?

The answer is, of course, the Federal US govt is spreading the Misery and Crime all around the country to contaminate every Congressional district.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at January 16, 2022 02:06 PM (++3nO)

409 399
Why were monoclonal antibodies unavailable?
Posted by: Muad'dib

My guess?
There's no $$ in it. Or there's far less $$ in it.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at January 16, 2022 02:03 PM (++3nO)

Texas and Florida are on Bidet's "non-compliant" list and must be punished by depriving the people of effective treatments.

Posted by: Fox2! at January 16, 2022 02:06 PM (/69IP)

410 405

He was a victim of misinformation being spread in mosques.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at January 16, 2022 02:07 PM (Wg1SU)

411 Thanks for your post CBD, and I am glad to hear of your recovery. My own experience with covid was less severe but longer lasting, insofar as my symptoms were never excessive but I contracted a bronchitis from covid and that took about two months to get rid of entirely. I too was vaxed (in March) but never boosted, and I contracted covid 7 months after vaccine.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 16, 2022 02:08 PM (ikIMD)

412 He was a victim of misinformation being spread in mosques.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at January 16, 2022 02:07 PM (Wg1SU)

LOL. Oddly Mrs. Al Qaeda and her family condemn (the lack of success of) the hostage incident

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 16, 2022 02:08 PM (ONvIw)

413 He went to the synagogue because his original destination was a Baptist tent revival and the canvas walls reminds him too much of home.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2022 01:59 PM (axyOa)

More chances of being ventilated when he produced his weapon, too.

Posted by: Fox2! at January 16, 2022 02:10 PM (/69IP)

414 By the way, I am thankful that CBD and others have recovered. I've been praying for you!

Posted by: Emmie -- support your local Moron at January 16, 2022 02:13 PM (7Y7HP)

415 331 Why were monoclonal antibodies unavailable?

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 16, 2022 01:45 PM (ikXZL)

FJB
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 01:46 PM (Q9lwr)
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Ted Cruz has a bill before congress to prohibit the Fed from restricting states right to purchase monoclonal antibodies.

Posted by: Braenyard beating a dead horse at January 16, 2022 02:14 PM (U9XSa)

416 413 He went to the synagogue because his original destination was a Baptist tent revival and the canvas walls reminds him too much of home.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 16, 2022 01:59 PM (axyOa)

More chances of being ventilated when he produced his weapon, too.
Posted by: Fox2! at January 16, 2022 02:10 PM (/69IP)
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A certainty.

Posted by: Braenyard beating a dead horse at January 16, 2022 02:15 PM (U9XSa)

417 That is the reality and you know it.

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at January 16, 2022 01:50 PM (Hh3y4)

No, I don't. I think that the number of people, even on this blog, who are bitterly, nastily critical of anyone who entertains the notion of getting vaccinated is a testament to exactly the insanity I referred to.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 01:54 PM (Q9lwr)

Ok, I get your point. I guess it seems that 'anti-vax'-to me at least-anyone who questions getting the vax. Maybe I need to stop using the media's definitions regarding this entire subject.

Thx.

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at January 16, 2022 02:17 PM (Hh3y4)

418 I also had covid as I've reported here. I'm thankful it was body aches and fever for about 3-4 days, but now I have stuffiness and a bit of a cough that's lingering. But for the most part, I feel fine though a bit stir crazy.

Work released me from isolation, but now that I report a lingering cough and stuffiness, they put me back in isolation. I have no idea how I'm going to get back to work.

Posted by: InCali at January 16, 2022 02:19 PM (eFvmN)

419 4 weeks in icu and 4 weeks in a rehab hospital.for.my coof. It.was 6.days beforeninhad the stewngth to even hold a toofbrush. That was october 14. Today i am on 4 liters O2 pee minute during activity. Doc says it will be sometime in the spring before im back to normal.

My 53 year old cousin, obese, non smoker, has coof. Went down REAL QUICK. 3 weeks in Medical ICU, he is on full dialysis, with a poor prognosis. This disease is real. It spares many, hits some like.a.hammer. i was shopping and filling truck with fuel on wednesday, thursday nite my O2 was 52 and i was 6 hours from the grave. My unvaxxed wife never got a sniffle.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at January 16, 2022 02:22 PM (n/szn)

420 I'm quite conflicted on the vaccine as well. It I think there's reason to be cautious of new technology plus the outcome this winter was worse than last year. That, to me, is a signal that it's not that effective, but I have no animosity towards anyone who gets it. There's a variety of reasons - protection, job retention, being about to navigate society. It's a huge mess no doubt.

Posted by: InCali at January 16, 2022 02:24 PM (eFvmN)

421 i was shopping and filling truck with fuel on wednesday, thursday nite my O2 was 52 and i was 6 hours from the grave. ....
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at January 16, 2022 02:22 PM (n/szn)

Damn

Posted by: Braenyard beating a dead horse at January 16, 2022 02:24 PM (U9XSa)

422 "was "singularly focused on one issue" that was not "specifically related to the Jewish community."

something about carrots in chili? Longbow versus crossbow? ... heh. Really, I do wonder what his issue was, and why that is not part of the story (or maybe it is, idk).

Posted by: illiniwek at January 16, 2022 02:26 PM (Cus5s)

423 Cicero,
Wow! Glad you're on the mend. Sounds like the delta version for sure. It's crazy how it hits some so hard without rhyme or reason. The establishment has everyone thinking that they will react like you and your cousin to Covid. The fear keeps most compliant.

Posted by: lin-duh at January 16, 2022 02:28 PM (UUBmN)

424 glad u are better CBD. but honestly, i cannot understand why folks aren't following the common-sense approach to Covid immunity. its been well published for a couple years already... here it is again:

zinc: 25-30 mg per day.
vit D3: 1000-5000 IU per day.
vit C: 100-500 mg per day but only with flavinoids (like Ester-C) to avoid flushing out. Vit C is a water-soluble acid and must digest in the intestine to give optimum results. If large amounts of just the acid are ingested, it most likely will secrete out the urinary tract causing damage such as UTIs.
quercetin: any natural form (elderberry, tea, wine, okra, etc...) or as a supplement. dosage varies greatly, but the supplements sold in Walmart are good at one or two per day.

that's it. not rocket science. simple biomechanics. but, as i studied in anthropology over 30 + years ago, daily zinc uptake varies hugely by demographics. AND... zinc is the key to immune health. i've taken zinc daily since a teen, and NEVER have had the flu.
i posted this almost two years ago. just a reminder...

UPDATE: Dr Zelenko has also published his reminders about zinc at The Gateway Pundit.

Posted by: reeko at January 16, 2022 02:28 PM (AgbrQ)

425 420 I'm quite conflicted on the vaccine as well. It I think there's reason to be cautious of new technology plus the outcome this winter was worse than last year. That, to me, is a signal that it's not that effective, but I have no animosity towards anyone who gets it. There's a variety of reasons - protection, job retention, being about to navigate society. It's a huge mess no doubt.
Posted by: InCali at January 16, 2022 02:24 PM (eFvmN)

Part of it being worse is there are no more shutdowns in states (last year, only about 10 states were actually open in the winter in any real form vs almost 50 now)...I mean, of all the "mitigation", shutdowns do make it seem like you're doing "better" b/c it's hard to pass a virus if no one ever sees anyone else. And with shutdowns, any virus in the air is in lower densities so folks were getting lower exposure when they caught the disease. And lower exposure normally means lower effect.

That said, shutdowns are a delay mechanism, not an actual stoppage...so comparing any period of shutdown with openness is always going to be difficult...

Posted by: Nova local at January 16, 2022 02:32 PM (exHjb)

426 Always apologize, but ensure that it's understood that you're insincere.

Posted by: Minuteman at January 16, 2022 02:38 PM (LaNzR)

427 Vaxed and boosted, yet Omicron tore through the "protection" like tissue paper for the whole family.

@reeko: Did all that; still got it. Granted, my case was very mild, but all that is still not complete protection. Being in an airborne aluminum tube didn't help in all probability, despite the airlines' claims of HEPA filters and no recirculation.

Posted by: nerdbert at January 16, 2022 02:38 PM (mayVJ)

428 Spirometers, I hate those things. I finally had to through a bunch out. No idea why I hadn't already.

CBD, glad to see you through with it. Sorry you had to. I've been lucky, or my immune system is iron clad. Haven't had a cold that I remember.

Posted by: Javems at January 16, 2022 02:47 PM (AmoqO)

429 Has anyone seen this? Analysis of Pfizer's published data on their "vaccine".

tinyurl.com/2h66ewdu

Posted by: ChuckKuecker at January 16, 2022 02:53 PM (w0YM7)

430 nova local, your musings are reasonable, in an a priori way, but not really rigorous - and there is no real-world experience that confirms them.

Yes there is a probably insuperable problem in getting "clean" comparisons, and good (comparable) test and control groups, etc., when dealing with mass public health measures.

But there's been a century of observation and actual research including RCTs on most "mitigation" measures, none of them have ever been validated as worthwhile. And there have been large RCTs done in the present situation (including masks) that .... yield exactly the same results as decades of research and observation have done.

It's simply not the case that a *prevalent* highly transmissible virus is "mitigated" by lockdowns. There's no evidence for it, there's tons of evidence to the contrary. Sweden had the lowest "excess deaths" in western Europe, and one of the mildest winter health seasons in 20 years, while doing almost nothing. This is not an outlier, it is very on-point, and there are lots of similar smaller/dirtier stories with other jurisdictions - no "mitigation", results indistinguishable from other places, or better.

Posted by: rhomboid at January 16, 2022 02:59 PM (OTzUX)

431 No, I don't. I think that the number of people, even on this blog, who are bitterly, nastily critical of anyone who entertains the notion of getting vaccinated is a testament to exactly the insanity I referred to.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 01:54 PM (Q9lwr)

Ok, I get your point. I guess it seems that 'anti-vax'-to me at least-anyone who questions getting the vax. Maybe I need to stop using the media's definitions regarding this entire subject. Thx.
______________________
A lot of people firmly oppose vaccines being mandatory, and think they are only useful in certain populations anyway. I'm one of them. I'm over 65, and got the Moderna when it came out, but would not force anyone else to.

Other people seem to think vaccines are the work of a secret Satanic cabal, full of little pointy spikes, and are a lethal threat to our Precious Bodily Fluids.

I really don't think these categories should be lumped together under "anti-vax."

Posted by: MW at January 16, 2022 03:00 PM (u33s0)

432 To me Anti vaxx are those who will not take any vaccine and claim that all vaccines are killers or make kids autistic.

If the covid was as dangerous as they first tried to make out that it was and catching it was a 1/5 chance of dying then I'd be getting the vaxx already. That said as time goes by, ON THE CDC'S own website and VAERS reporting you can see that this vaccine is out of the ordinary as to the number deaths and injuries compared to previous vaccines and years going back quite a ways.

This means that little is being told to people on what the risks are compared to what the odds of catching the virus and having a bad result.The claim that the vaxx lessens the impact is not true. The reason so many vaxxed were not getting the virus was because they wouldn't have gotten it without the vaxx for whatever reason. Immunity or the ability to fight off a covid infection doesn't necessarily come from having a previous covid -19 infection. They 're finding that other infections can give a person a degree of immunity to the covid. The omicron is suspected of immunizing large numbers of people with mild symptoms.

Posted by: jakee308 at January 16, 2022 04:16 PM (dLws2)

433 It seems to me that in general the people who are the nastiest are the people who've been vaxxed and demand that the unvaxxed be forced to get vaxxed.

There is no scientific rationale for anyone to take the vaxx as far as any effect on someone who is already vaxxed. We see now that the vaxxed can get infected and more than once. And that they can carry a larger viral load than an unvaxxed person because they will not have as noticeable symptoms.

As I said if the covid was a killer then they wouldn't have to try to coerce people into getting the vaxx.

Posted by: jakee308 at January 16, 2022 04:20 PM (dLws2)

434 "No, I don't. I think that the number of people, even on this blog, who are bitterly, nastily critical of anyone who entertains the notion of getting vaccinated is a testament to exactly the insanity I referred to."

Bull hockey.

You can get as many jabs as you want...doesn't matter to me (or anyone I know) At. All.
Your body, your choice.

However, it's People of the Lie (mRNA gene therapy treatment re: "Vaccine's") who are the rabid ones...(45% in a recent poll believe the un-vaxed should be forced into "designated facilities")...

Maybe that's why Congress and the Senate have exempted themselves from The Jab, since Big Pharma won't reveal what's inside the vials until 75 years from now.

Posted by: Ju at January 16, 2022 04:34 PM (aTmM/)

435 To persist in referring to the injection as a vaccine promotes the propaganda.
It is like calling a starling a crow.
Very glad you made it through; the virus is no joke no matter which variant.

Posted by: Clear Eyed Killer at January 16, 2022 04:40 PM (aBBMN)

436 Great report, CBD. Several boosted relatives have had Omicron now, but it sounds to me like you got Delta.

Posted by: KT at January 16, 2022 04:45 PM (0ghg2)

437 So glad you're back in the saddle!

Posted by: m at January 16, 2022 05:05 PM (YbTYS)

438 Vitamin C, Zinc, Vitamin D.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 16, 2022 01:00 PM (Q9lwr)

Did they actually prescribe these for you or did you have to ask/demand? Or did you just sneak them in with you?

Posted by: Bonnie Blue - says FU at January 16, 2022 05:53 PM (hlxe7)

439 What was the anti-clot shot for, some condition of yours or from one of the meds?

So glad you are feeling better!

Posted by: pj at January 16, 2022 06:14 PM (G1dq6)

440 Swedes get a lot of vitamin D in their diets. kids are supplemented in day school. They eat little fishes, and a lot of fortified dairy products. Fresh air and excercise is just baked into the torta.

It probably helps.

Posted by: Sarahw at January 16, 2022 07:17 PM (g1vnC)

441 Is no one here aware of the simple things that can and should be be done as early treatment for Covid?

https://www.americanthinker.com/ articles/2022/01/how_about_a_nasal_wash _to_treat_covid.html

Posted by: javapoppa at January 16, 2022 09:47 PM (C84Ja)

442 I received the first two shots, as did my son. He got sick while he was home for Christmas and tested positive. He was pretty bad for a couple of days and then got better--not the sickest he's ever been, but probably top five.

Since I had been in almost constant contact with him and then took care of him afterward, I assumed I'd test positive and didn't bother with getting tested until he recovered. I developed a sore throat and some congestion but not even equal to a bad cold. After my son tested negative, I got tested too, just so I could quit isolating. I was negative, so I'm not sure I ever had it, but I think it was a very mild case.

The vaccines presumably reduced the severity for both of us and maybe even kept me from getting it at all. I got the booster two days ago, and I felt terrible the rest of that day and night and still had no energy for another 24 hours. I'm not getting another booster until they come up with something that lasts more than six months. I felt worse from it than I ever did taking care of my son.

Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at January 16, 2022 11:14 PM (vJCwr)

443 CBD -- Very happy you fared your ordeal week enough. I am fat and unfit, and was fat and unfit when I got the Wuhan Flu back last spring. I had horrendous gastro intestinal issues -- think Norovirus but over five days days instead of six hours. I -- thank God -- did not wind up in the emergency room. I was terribly dragass, practically immobilized tired ,for a week, exhausted for another, and just plain tired for another two weeks after that. I'm even fatter and more unfit thanks to the whole lockdown.

BTW, housing still sucks here on Idaho.

Posted by: Lee Also at January 16, 2022 11:21 PM (XamNN)

444 "I'm glad you fared your ordeal WELL enough."

Perhaps because I'd been on high-dose vitamin D for several months before I got the Wuhan Flu, and had been taking zinc, vitamin C, and quercetin when I did get, I did okay. The worst part (even worse than the copious emesis and the diarrhea that was like a six-day colonoscopy prep) was the fear that I was going to die. Thanks to the nuts in the news. I had to remind myself that the overall case fatality rate was, like, 1%, so the odds were in my favor.

And tired as I was, I had a terrible time sleeping. I had read that sleeping on your back was bad, and sleeping on your side only mildly better. I couldn't sleep because I wanted to make sure I stayed on my stomach.

I had tinitus up until recently. I actually kind of missed it when it cleared. Something also seems to have changed in my "gut flora" that is actually an improvement.

Posted by: Lee Also at January 16, 2022 11:47 PM (XamNN)

445 It's always possible that the reason your experience was on the bad side was... you were vaccinated. There's plenty of evidence to indicate that vaxxing undermines natural immunity.

I'm 69 and have just come off a five day bout with the dread Omicron. Didn't even end up bedridden but was horribly low energy for three days, low grade fever, head and body aches. Worse than a cold, much easier than a flu. I've been slamming 4000 iu D, 3,000 mg C, 50 mg zinc, 250 mg Quercetin and regularly cleansing my nostrils and gargling after being out and about as preventatives.

When I got sick I bumped up the zinc and Quercetin to 2x/day and added more C and D as well. After Day #2 I wondered whether I should start the big guns, but in the end never felt bad enough to break out the IVM, Azithromycin, or fluvoxamine I've stockpiled for my wife and I.

Could all be luck and maybe I'll get the next escape variant. Don't know, of course. What I DO know is that I'm never going to get jabbed. FTS.

Posted by: Lawrence L at January 17, 2022 03:12 PM (FAuXd)

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