Saturday Gardening, Puttering and Outdoor Adventure thread, Jan. 15

Hi, everybody! It's still winter. Had any garden or outdoor experiences, or are you dreaming for later? for those in the dreaming stage, Bluegreen Kayak sent in some information and photos:

While trying to organize ten years of digital pictures, I found these lilies from the North Dakota State University Daylily Display Garden in Fargo.
My sister showed the garden to me when I visited late in July last year. It was a wonder to me how many different varieties of day lilies there are; I mostly see the ubiquitous yellow ones that grace the new home subdivisions.
In addition to the wider range of colors, I liked the variety of petal types on display, especially the ones with a sort of frill around the edges. Some day lilies were bred to emphasize every other petal, giving them a semi-triangular shape.
Thanks again for the great pictures and plant tips you put up there for all of us - Bluegreen Kayak

These photos are impressive. And quite the daylily farm!

Bluegreen Kayak's comments give us a clue into why a lot of people are amateur daylily breeders. If you study the flowers in the photos, there really is a lot of variety! I like the flower form of the specimen above.

So double!

I am also partial to this variety. Are those student residences in the background? If so, nice view.

Which varieties do you like best?

Terraces

Preparing a hilly yard for parties, and for gardening in terraces, in Northern California:

Are you making full use of your balcony or terrace for music? As a performer or as part of an audience?

Opera is great. But there are other possibilities. 2:22

Edible Gardening

We turned our turkey coop into a greenhouse. We're in zone 6a so always seem to need an extra month for growing. Lemon tree is showing some fruit. We also took some beef steak tomato cuttings that have grown enough for 5 gallon pots. Hope they make it to spring for transplanting and get a jump start on the season.
S.Lynn, Wilder Idaho

This sounds like such a good idea. Love to see the little lemons, in Idaho!

Nerdy but Brilliant Cooking Tips Straight from Food Scientists

Here are some for produce. There are others.

When blanching vegetables (like green beans), coat them in oil as soon as they come out of the water.

Or butter. Wonder if this works for freezing?

Soak your berries in 125 F water as soon as you get home to make them last longer.

Not for long.

Gardens of The Horde

We have FOG. It is delaying some home renovations. Dogs don't want to go out.

Anything happening in your yard or garden?

If you would like to send information and/or photos for the Saturday Gardening Thread, the address is:

ktinthegarden
at that g mail dot com place

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Posted by: K.T. at 01:22 PM

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1 Very pretty. Thank you, KT

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 15, 2022 01:26 PM (fx8tj)

2 Hi, nurse ratched!

Posted by: KT at January 15, 2022 01:28 PM (0ghg2)

3 All we have is the orange day lilly. I need to get some of these.

Posted by: Bruce at January 15, 2022 01:28 PM (+EUvM)

4 50mph gusts this morning. Not a lot 'doing' in the garden/yard.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 15, 2022 01:31 PM (CCwsu)

5 Hello fellow flower peeps!

Posted by: Diogenes at January 15, 2022 01:32 PM (axyOa)

6 We have the orange-ish daylilies here. They sort of came with the joint. Bunch of them grow wild at the end of the driveway.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 15, 2022 01:36 PM (BFigT)

7 Hello green thumbs. Puttering question I have. I have a neglected plywood silhouette I took down from the driveway border to rehab. Should I put waterseal or urethane on it and then paint to achieve a bit of weather proofing?

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 15, 2022 01:37 PM (3cGpq)

8 AZ deplorable moron at January 15, 2022 01:31 PM

Wow!

Posted by: KT at January 15, 2022 01:38 PM (0ghg2)

9 Love those photos of the day lilies with their huge range of colors and subtle shapes. They are one of Mrs. JTB's favorites.

Posted by: JTB at January 15, 2022 01:38 PM (7EjX1)

10 Thank you for the day lily pictures, KT! They are lovely.

Posted by: EveR at January 15, 2022 01:39 PM (MUpk6)

11 Those daylillies look great. The orange one resembles a bearded iris. The red one with the yellow stripes is an explosion of color.

Posted by: 40 Miles North at January 15, 2022 01:39 PM (uWF4x)

12 Be in soon, out cleaning truck and yard before snow

Posted by: Skip's Phone at January 15, 2022 01:39 PM (2JoB8)

13 We are so dry and I don't water enough to make up for it for daylilies here or I'd have a bunch because they are pretty and bloom in the summer when the spring flowers are done.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 15, 2022 01:39 PM (3cGpq)

14 Newest poinsettia has dropped most of its leaves, so pruned it back this week. 2 others have been blooming since mid-December, oldest one *just now* beginning to color up.

Outdoors is cold, windy, damp. Ugh.

Garlic sprouts survived the snow-dump, yay!

No idea what else we'll grow this year. Puttering has consisted only of taking down Christmas lights.

Posted by: JQ at January 15, 2022 01:42 PM (dB4Iz)

15 I love seed catalog season! No weeding!

Posted by: Emmie at January 15, 2022 01:44 PM (6RgRK)

16 >>> 4 50mph gusts this morning. Not a lot 'doing' in the garden/yard.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 15, 2022 01:31 PM (CCwsu)

It was supposed to be partly cloudy and low-to-mid 40s here; it's mostly cloudy and 37 with 20mph gusting to ~30 wind. So much for my outside plans!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 15, 2022 01:44 PM (llON8)

17 Cool pics. And it proves there ARE trees in North Dakota... at least 10!

The plywood... I think either paint or poly, not both. Spar urethane is the outdoor one. But oil based primer, then latex will probably outlast urethane. Maybe buy some thin, thin strips for the edges, seal that and it will last longer, too.

Posted by: Mky at January 15, 2022 01:45 PM (cPGH3)

18 7 ... "I have a neglected plywood silhouette I took down from the driveway border to rehab. Should I put waterseal or urethane on it and then paint to achieve a bit of weather proofing?"

PaleRider,
It's been a long time since I tried to rehab plywood. My distant memory says to make sure it is fully dry before treatment and to make sure the edges, especially, are well covered/sealed. A thick exterior paint helped. This was on an island, so moisture was always a problem.

Posted by: JTB at January 15, 2022 01:45 PM (7EjX1)

19 I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to cage my new growing area from above and below ground level. We've got squirrels, moles, raccoons, and birds. They likely wouldn't leave anything for humans.

Posted by: Emmie at January 15, 2022 01:47 PM (6RgRK)

20 I like day lilies because even I can keep them alive.

Posted by: Ronster at January 15, 2022 01:49 PM (wCVx7)

21 I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to cage my new growing area from above and below ground level. We've got squirrels, moles, raccoons, and birds. They likely wouldn't leave anything for humans.
Posted by: Emmie

We have a deer barrier. But last year tried growing garlic in a raised bed, and a vole (?) burrowed under and got it all. I'm not hauling all that soil out just to create a barrier.
Always sumpin'

Posted by: Mky at January 15, 2022 01:50 PM (cPGH3)

22 it's cold, cloudy, and breezy today and the forecast is for snow and ice and rain. This would be a good weekend musing about gardening matters, especially since I can do it from my easy chair. No sore muscles to bring reality to the grandiose dreams.

Posted by: JTB at January 15, 2022 01:51 PM (7EjX1)

23 It was supposed to be partly cloudy and low-to-mid 40s here; it's mostly cloudy and 37 with 20mph gusting to ~30 wind. So much for my outside plans!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

It has calmed down somewhat now: 13mph/17mph gusts, 63F.
I hung some pegboard in the garage and started organizing hanging tools.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 15, 2022 01:53 PM (CCwsu)

24 I'm looking at using some of these on the turf areas with chicken wire or hardware cloth on the bottom:
https://eartheasy.com/natural-
cedar-raised-garden-beds/

And these on the veranda and patio slab:
https://www.agardenpatch.com/
the-original-self-watering-tomato-planter/

I need to protect my garden from black walnut juglone and critters. Also, I think I will need to supplement the light with these:
https://tinyurl.com/yckz32wd

Posted by: Emmie at January 15, 2022 01:55 PM (6RgRK)

25 AZ Deplorable. We've got 50 mph gusts here in central Texas too. Sunny and not too cool otherwise, but just going to the mailbox convinced me to stay inside.

Gardening-wise we took advantage of three nice days to cut back dead vegetation and trim dead tree limbs. Beds are empty now, but that actually looks better than straggly stems and dead leaves.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at January 15, 2022 01:56 PM (fTtFy)

26 One of the veggies I want to grow this season is a sweet banana pepper. We have had luck with them in the past and they are so versatile. Another item for the list of possible plants and projects for the spring (which gets longer every week).

Posted by: JTB at January 15, 2022 01:57 PM (7EjX1)

27 We have a deer barrier. But last year tried growing garlic in a raised bed, and a vole (?) burrowed under and got it all. I'm not hauling all that soil out just to create a barrier.
Always sumpin'
Posted by: Mky at January 15, 2022 01:50 PM (cPGH3)

Urg! Sorry you didn't get to enjoy the fruits of your labor. I wonder if there are any effective deterrents that would be easier to implement? I hate to see you miss out on home-grown garlic.

Posted by: Emmie at January 15, 2022 01:58 PM (6RgRK)

28 I love day lilies too but our local deer pretty much rule that out.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at January 15, 2022 01:58 PM (fTtFy)

29 I just got a tsunami alert on my phone.
Apparently there was a rather violent eruption of an underwater volcano in New Zealand.

Marine in Oki just said they haven't been told anything.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 15, 2022 01:59 PM (U2p+3)

30 Mky, sounds like you need to grow something that voles won't munch in that bed and maybe start fresh for garlic with a bed with a solid bottom.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 15, 2022 01:59 PM (3cGpq)

31 Here's a mole repellent I'll likely try:

https://pestkill.org/moles/castor-oil/

Posted by: Emmie at January 15, 2022 02:02 PM (6RgRK)

32 Hi, PaleRider! Hope you can make it to this year's Colorado Morondezvous on April 30th. I've missed you at recent ones.

Posted by: Emmie at January 15, 2022 02:04 PM (6RgRK)

33 Hawai'i got some waves and the whole west coast of the US is under warning. Puget Sound, where I live, is quite protected. I doubt we will see much of a ripple here. But it is exciting!

There's actually quite a few folks on the beach with chairs and fires going. I guess it's a watch party.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 15, 2022 02:04 PM (U2p+3)

34 Beautiful thread, KT.
It's 19 degrees here and I'm staying in.I got a Van Bourgondien spring catalog to look at. I have had success with their bulbs, but have never bought root stock from them. The echinacea collection is very appealing.

Posted by: CN at January 15, 2022 02:05 PM (ONvIw)

35 Hi Nurse. I think the tsunami from this Tonga volcano is traveling to hit the U.S. west coast, not towards Japan.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 15, 2022 02:05 PM (3cGpq)

36 Best mole repellent was my mom's tortie, Cinder. Great at her job, the pride of the neighborhood

Posted by: CN at January 15, 2022 02:06 PM (ONvIw)

37 I actually live just a few blocks away from that collection. The buildings behind it are apartment buildings, not quite student housing, but given they are primarily rented by the college students, they may as well be.

They're adjacent to test gardens run by the University, which are used to study hardiness of various varieties of perennial plants. The university also use to house a massive iris collection that was gifted to them upon the death of a local iris collector. The collection topped over a thousand iris varieties. Unfortunatly, the college...which I MUST ad, was started as an agricultural college, decided the best place to put this massive collection of irises...all of which were quite hardy for the region if cared for properly...in a DRAIN BASIN which flooded annually.

Needless to say, the collection, which would have been the largest between Minneapolis and Seattle, was completely destroyed within 5 years, because the agricultural college did not know that irises are not able to survive being submerged during spring floods, and refused to relocate them.

THE AGRICULTURAL COLLEGE was unaware of this.

Posted by: Dr_Mr_Badman at January 15, 2022 02:06 PM (A2eXZ)

38 Hi Emmie, hopefully I can make the April Morondezvous.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 15, 2022 02:08 PM (3cGpq)

39 The turf at our new home has an amazing variety of vegetation. There's some grass, of course, but also moss, violets, clover, allium, trillium, and cute but gastronomically disappointing wild strawberries. (I hope they don't affect the Mara de Bois berries I plan to cultivate.)

Posted by: Emmie at January 15, 2022 02:08 PM (6RgRK)

40 39 I adore violets, won't let them be sprayed.

Posted by: CN at January 15, 2022 02:09 PM (ONvIw)

41 Yay, PaleRider! I just hope we can make it. I don't know yet if we'll be able to break away for a trip to Colorado.

Posted by: Emmie at January 15, 2022 02:10 PM (6RgRK)

42 39 the wild strawberries with the yellow flowers?

Posted by: CN at January 15, 2022 02:10 PM (ONvIw)

43 Time to feed the horses their lunch and putter at something or other. Enjoy your afternoon Horde.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 15, 2022 02:11 PM (3cGpq)

44 Really, how can wild strawberries possibly be as tasteless as the ones growing in our yard? The ones I've foraged in the mountains are incredibly tasty.

Posted by: Emmie at January 15, 2022 02:11 PM (6RgRK)

45 THE AGRICULTURAL COLLEGE was unaware of this.
Posted by: Dr_Mr_Badman

Dean probably has a degree in Horticultural Therapy. It's everywhere.

Posted by: Mky at January 15, 2022 02:12 PM (cPGH3)

46 Only puttering is knitting. I finished 4 projects this week, and am getting busy on winding the icelandic pull skeins. They are reliably knotty.

Posted by: CN at January 15, 2022 02:13 PM (ONvIw)

47 42 39 the wild strawberries with the yellow flowers?
Posted by: CN at January 15, 2022 02:10 PM (ONvIw)

I think I remember the flowers being white but I'm not totally sure, now that you mention it.

Posted by: Emmie at January 15, 2022 02:13 PM (6RgRK)

48 44 the ones with the yellow flowers are not even enjoyed by the birds and squirrels

Posted by: CN at January 15, 2022 02:14 PM (ONvIw)

49 I am pretty sure the "inverse-squared law" applies to tsunamis. By the time it makes it to San Diego, it will be quite weak.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 15, 2022 02:14 PM (smVBh)

50 Got another wheel barrow of pine logs split up, maybe some lead melting soon.

Posted by: Skip's Phone at January 15, 2022 02:14 PM (/o13c)

51 January 15, 2022

It's been 15 days without a cigarette. The conscious mind is telling us how great this is, how healthy we are, how proud it is.

But there are murmurs in the subconscious, rumors that maybe the conscious mind is senile and unfit to lead. Moral is low, and many of subconscious thoughts are plotting a scheme to storm the conscious mind with knives and stab the eyeballs out of it and reinstitute our nicotine rations.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 15, 2022 02:16 PM (0JD4d)

52 Maybe mock strawberry, Emmie?
https://tinyurl.com/mnw6ra2j

yellow flowers

Posted by: Mky at January 15, 2022 02:16 PM (cPGH3)

53 52. That's the culprits.

Posted by: CN at January 15, 2022 02:17 PM (ONvIw)

54 Skip, do you shoot black powder pistols, or just long guns?

Posted by: Mky at January 15, 2022 02:17 PM (cPGH3)

55 Hang tough, Bitter clinger.

Posted by: Mky at January 15, 2022 02:18 PM (cPGH3)

56 Great pics and thread, as usual, KT.

Also, kudos on the preceding thread.

Not much happening at Che Blake. Today was install blinds, hang speaker bar for tv and put up drapery hooks.

No landscaping yet, as it's not the time of year for it.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at January 15, 2022 02:18 PM (5pTK/)

57 Re: garlic suggestions. Thanks all. We missed the boat this year, but are discussing a much smaller, and shallower raised bed just for the garlic. They don't need much root space, right?
Minor project for next fall that way, not a major PITA.

Posted by: Mky at January 15, 2022 02:21 PM (cPGH3)

58 Bitter Clinger, good for you! I'll pray for God's strength for you, since we know how wimpy our own strength is.

Posted by: Emmie at January 15, 2022 02:23 PM (6RgRK)

59 I've always preferred single varieties over double - that goes for just about every flower, not just lilies. Anyone else agree?

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 15, 2022 02:24 PM (Mzdiz)

60 Now that I've seen the berries on the mock strawberry plants, I think that's what's growing in my yard. I had no idea that potentilla produced berries. I just hope they can't crossbreed with fragaria.

Posted by: Emmie at January 15, 2022 02:25 PM (6RgRK)

61 to storm the conscious mind with knives and stab the eyeballs out of it and reinstitute our nicotine rations.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger

Congrats on your 2 weeks! You're weened off nicotine now you just have conquer the hand to mouth habit.
It *is* doable.
Quit in the Navy in 1973 while continuing to go to the bars nightly.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 15, 2022 02:25 PM (CCwsu)

62 59. Except roses yes .I have single roses (eglantines and dog roses) but roses need layers

Posted by: CN at January 15, 2022 02:26 PM (ONvIw)

63 Good for you, Bitter Clinger!
I love your stream of consciousness writing. Please continue.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 15, 2022 02:26 PM (U2p+3)

64 59 I've always preferred single varieties over double - that goes for just about every flower, not just lilies. Anyone else agree?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 15, 2022 02:24 PM (Mzdiz)

Yes! Except I do like lots of petals on roses. Single roses are pretty but not as spectacular.

Posted by: Emmie at January 15, 2022 02:26 PM (6RgRK)

65 January 15, 2022

It's been 15 days without a cigarette. The conscious mind is telling us how great this is, how healthy we are, how proud it is.

But there are murmurs in the subconscious, rumors that maybe the conscious mind is senile and unfit to lead. Moral is low, and many of subconscious thoughts are plotting a scheme to storm the conscious mind with knives and stab the eyeballs out of it and reinstitute our nicotine rations.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 15, 2022 02:16 PM (0JD4d)

Congratulations on your victory thus far. Nicotine is the worst. I'll be attempting my own battle sometime soon. Hang tough, and remember: "Not A Single Puff!" It helps to brush your teeth often. I don't know why, but it does. And some activity to engage your attention and your hands.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 15, 2022 02:27 PM (Mzdiz)

66 64 they do set exquisite hips in the fall, though

Posted by: CN at January 15, 2022 02:27 PM (ONvIw)

67 I have those mock strawberry's all over my yard. I also get wild grape vines that are inedible as well. Vines will kill anything it climbs up on. Surprised they haven't got into the house and snatched me from my bed.

Posted by: dartist at January 15, 2022 02:28 PM (+ya+t)

68 >> 54 Skip, do you shoot black powder pistols

Arrrr, grab a cutlass and join us, you scurvy dog.

Posted by: Black Beard at January 15, 2022 02:28 PM (uWF4x)

69 59 I've always preferred single varieties over double - that goes for just about every flower, not just lilies. Anyone else agree?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess

Not every flower. I like the single daffodils more. Daffodils are so beautiful as they are, the fluff and stuff gets too frilly.

But many of the doubles are gorgeous, I agree.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 15, 2022 02:29 PM (U2p+3)

70 Yes! Except I do like lots of petals on roses. Single roses are pretty but not as spectacular.

Posted by: Emmie at January 15, 2022 02:26 PM (6RgRK)

Agreed. Although simple wild roses are lovely, too - just not what we think of when we think "rose."

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 15, 2022 02:29 PM (Mzdiz)

71 I totally read that wrong.

Need more coffee

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 15, 2022 02:29 PM (U2p+3)

72 Also found out that ferns will take over a yard if you let them.

Posted by: dartist at January 15, 2022 02:30 PM (+ya+t)

73 Single roses come in many colors, I love the eglantines, but also have a lovely yellow Hugonis.

Posted by: CN at January 15, 2022 02:30 PM (ONvIw)

74 67 I also get wild grape vines that are inedible as well. Vines will kill anything it climbs up on. Surprised they haven't got into the house and snatched me from my bed.
Posted by: dartist at January 15, 2022 02:28 PM (+ya+t)

When we first moved into our previous house, I had to weed the bedroom. It had been vacant for awhile and bindweed tried to invade.

Posted by: Emmie at January 15, 2022 02:30 PM (6RgRK)

75 Not every flower. I like the single daffodils more. Daffodils are so beautiful as they are, the fluff and stuff gets too frilly.

But many of the doubles are gorgeous, I agree.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 15, 2022 02:29 PM (U2p+3)

Frilly, yes. I notices that on the hibiscus - the singles are absolutely gorgeous, but the doubles are just puffy.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 15, 2022 02:31 PM (Mzdiz)

76 It's been 15 days without a cigarette. The conscious mind is telling us how great this is, how healthy we are, how proud it is.
But there are murmurs in the subconscious, rumors that maybe the conscious mind is senile and unfit to lead. Moral is low, and many of subconscious thoughts are plotting a scheme to storm the conscious mind with knives and stab the eyeballs out of it and reinstitute our nicotine rations.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger

Supposedly one can reprogram the subconscious using the conscious by writing down, reading, or speaking aloud the new desired behavior, repeatedly. So get cracking and quell the troops!

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at January 15, 2022 02:31 PM (cWPjN)

77 Chew on a toothpick.

Posted by: Kojac at January 15, 2022 02:32 PM (smVBh)

78 When we first moved into our previous house, I had to weed the bedroom. It had been vacant for awhile and bindweed tried to invade.
Posted by: Emmie

I built a pole barn about 10' from where an old house set.
There's a wisteria that keeps invading. It will cross an entire bay within a season.

Posted by: Mky at January 15, 2022 02:32 PM (cPGH3)

79 >> 35 Hi Nurse. I think the tsunami from this Tonga
>> volcano is traveling to hit the U.S. west coast

Southern California was hit with the remnants of a tsunami a few years back. It was a 3 foot wave when it finally arrived. The brilliant political scientists had just finished putting up tsunami flood warning signs all over the area too.

Posted by: 40 Miles North at January 15, 2022 02:33 PM (uWF4x)

80 Just got cup of tea with lemon and mail guy shows up, I didn't want to go out again.

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 02:33 PM (2JoB8)

81 Yeah, I'm on my second cup. I need to go out and do a bit of (non-essential but desirable) shopping before the ice storm hits. I'll need to avoid the roads for the next few days.

Also have to batten down and put some things in the garage. Anticipating 20-35 mph winds tomorrow.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 15, 2022 02:34 PM (Mzdiz)

82 https://dailytimewaster.blogspot.com/2022/01/
tonga-tsunami-coming-ashore-in-santa.html

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 02:34 PM (2JoB8)

83 I think I'm going to try growing potatoes for the first time this year if I can find starts (eyes? whatever potato pieces are called). I've never bothered before, but now I hear there is a shortage.

Posted by: Emmie at January 15, 2022 02:34 PM (6RgRK)

84 3 foot wave?

Boogie boarding?

Posted by: Kojac at January 15, 2022 02:34 PM (smVBh)

85 Planning some planter boes and a 1/4 circle retaining wall for the spring. For the wall, I want to go with stone but the wife wants cedar.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 15, 2022 02:34 PM (sDfy9)

86 off Telly Savalas sock.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 15, 2022 02:34 PM (smVBh)

87 Copy whole thing

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 02:34 PM (2JoB8)

88 Also found out that ferns will take over a yard if you let them.

Not a problem here. Cacti, however...

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at January 15, 2022 02:34 PM (SchxB)

89 Some flooding in picture

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 02:35 PM (2JoB8)

90 Love the terracing in the NoCal backyard. Gotta get me some outdoor string lights this year. I say that every year.

Posted by: S.Lynn at January 15, 2022 02:36 PM (ICbXt)

91 >> 15 I love seed catalog season! No weeding!

That's true in the frigid north, but it's actually weed season in the Southwest.

Posted by: 40 Miles North at January 15, 2022 02:38 PM (uWF4x)

92
Posted by: Skip

Tidal Wave looks like it has sunk some cars.
Some of Dad's family lived on the 'high-side' of the area. We visited a couple of times when I was young.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 15, 2022 02:39 PM (CCwsu)

93 Also considering paw paw trees. They are understory trees so they won't mind a bit of shade. Also, grocery stores don't stock paw paws because they must be picked when they are ripe and don't ship well.

Posted by: Emmie at January 15, 2022 02:39 PM (6RgRK)

94 That's true in the frigid north, but it's actually weed season in the Southwest.
Posted by: 40 Miles North

Absolutely true. I'm looking at all the little green sprouts in the 2.5 acres and plotting their doom.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 15, 2022 02:40 PM (CCwsu)

95 Emmie, have you got all moved in to your new digs?

Posted by: Ronster at January 15, 2022 02:42 PM (wCVx7)

96 I think I'm going to try growing potatoes for the first time this year if I can find starts (eyes? whatever potato pieces are called). I've never bothered before, but now I hear there is a shortage.
------------
Taters are easy. I found out a 10 foot row is waaaay more than one guy can eat. Cool thing is you can dig up what you need for a meal and leave the rest in the ground. I even left some in for the winter and they grew again from what was left in the ground.

Posted by: dartist at January 15, 2022 02:42 PM (+ya+t)

97 Emmie, I'm a pawpaw aficianado.
I've bought plants, 1 yr rooted, and have some in my woods. They're self sterile, so some different genetics are helpful.
We do NOT get good crops without hand pollinating. Every year, I threaten to kill a coon to throw around each grove when flowering, cause they are pollinated by flies and "indifferent beetles", NOT bees. Kinda different.
Also the sole food of the black swallowtail, if I'm not mistaken.

Posted by: Mky at January 15, 2022 02:45 PM (cPGH3)

98 83 ... " I think I'm going to try growing potatoes for the first time this year"

I've thought about doing this, at least as an experiment. There are all sorts of videos on how to grow spuds in containers or other easy methods. Might be worth trying. At least even failing would be inexpensive. :-)

Posted by: JTB at January 15, 2022 02:46 PM (7EjX1)

99 Emmie at January 15, 2022 02:39 PM

Get named varieties of pawpaw. Not all of the wild ones are good.

Posted by: KT at January 15, 2022 02:48 PM (0ghg2)

100 2nd year doing potatoes. Pretty easy.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 15, 2022 02:48 PM (BFigT)

101 Mky at January 15, 2022 02:45 PM

It's the zebra swallowtail and pawpaws.

Posted by: KT at January 15, 2022 02:51 PM (0ghg2)

102 65 January 15, 2022

It's been 15 days without a cigarette. The conscious mind is telling us how great this is, how healthy we are, how proud it is.

But there are murmurs in the subconscious, rumors that maybe the conscious mind is senile and unfit to lead. Moral is low, and many of subconscious thoughts are plotting a scheme to storm the conscious mind with knives and stab the eyeballs out of it and reinstitute our nicotine rations.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 15, 2022 02:16 PM (0JD4d)

(This is really simplifying, but)...Great Courses addiction video mentioned that you want to replace the actual physical cig routines b/c you have dopamine releases based on expectations, and when you miss those expectations, it drags you lower than you would be otherwise...aka, if the morning cig routine was coffee and a cig at the breakfast table, move the coffee without the cig to the front porch or den...and continue...

And congrats on 15 days...when I gave up my one-a-day diet soda habit for my cancer, it was one day at a time (and a new after lunch plan, which was when I had it)...now I haven't had it in 18 months and have zero cravings for it...

Posted by: Nova local at January 15, 2022 02:51 PM (exHjb)

103 We did container potatoes after watching a Monty Don episode. It worked pretty well. I used sprouted Yukon Golds

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 15, 2022 02:51 PM (ONvIw)

104 It's the zebra swallowtail and pawpaws.
Posted by: KT

Thanks. Neighbor gets them, I haven't.

Posted by: Mky at January 15, 2022 02:53 PM (cPGH3)

105 Only ever tried a few potatoes and what came out were extremely good but golf ball size and enough for a mixed breakfast.

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 02:53 PM (2JoB8)

106 I didn't think potatoes were a possibility in Zone 9; but just read that you can plant 2 seasons mid season for fall and late winter for a spring harvest.

Now you've got me thinking (ouch!).

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 15, 2022 02:54 PM (CCwsu)

107 95 Emmie, have you got all moved in to your new digs?
Posted by: Ronster at January 15, 2022 02:42 PM (wCVx7)

Mostly. We're in Colorado now because Mr. Bassman has a concert on the 29th. (See link in nic)

Posted by: Emmie -- support your local Moron at January 15, 2022 02:55 PM (6RgRK)

108 I think a key when doing potatoes is to make sure the mounds are not packed too tight. Helps the taters grow bigger.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 15, 2022 02:56 PM (BFigT)

109 >>> 83 I think I'm going to try growing potatoes for the first time this year if I can find starts (eyes? whatever potato pieces are called). I've never bothered before, but now I hear there is a shortage.
Posted by: Emmie at January 15, 2022 02:34 PM (6RgRK)

Emmie, I bought some nice starter potatoes from the local hardware store last year, and then forgot to plant them! Grrr... I have a better idea of what and where I want to plant this year so hopefully I can start things when they're supposed to get started this time around.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 15, 2022 02:56 PM (llON8)

110 KT,
Thanks for the thread. Besides the lovely photos there are always topics that get me thinking. (Uh-Oh!!)

Posted by: JTB at January 15, 2022 02:57 PM (7EjX1)

111 Mr. Bassman has a concert on the 29th.

That's neat.

Posted by: Ronster at January 15, 2022 02:58 PM (wCVx7)

112 Agree with JTB, thank you KT!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 15, 2022 02:59 PM (CCwsu)

113 Mky, hopefully that means you are blessedly free of pesky flies!

Posted by: Emmie -- support your local Moron at January 15, 2022 03:01 PM (6RgRK)

114 I think a key when doing potatoes is to make sure the mounds are not packed too tight. Helps the taters grow bigger.
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Yep, nice loose soil to wiggle around in.

Posted by: dartist at January 15, 2022 03:01 PM (+ya+t)

115 PET NOOD

Posted by: Skip guy who says NOOD at January 15, 2022 03:01 PM (2JoB8)

116 Helena, hope you have a bounteous harvest!

Posted by: Emmie -- support your local Moron at January 15, 2022 03:01 PM (6RgRK)

117 KT and Mky, there's some hippie guy who breeds paw paws in the Ozarks. His order form is not active at the moment, so I don't know if he retired.

Posted by: Emmie -- support your local Moron at January 15, 2022 03:05 PM (6RgRK)

118 Day lilies all seem so happy to be alive.

Posted by: m at January 15, 2022 03:30 PM (SSiCQ)

119 6 We have the orange-ish daylilies here. They sort of came with the joint. Bunch of them grow wild at the end of the driveway.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 15, 2022 01:36 PM (BFigT)

FYI Day Lilies are edible!
https://honest-food.net/dining-on-daylilies/

Posted by: Bonnie Blue - says FU at January 15, 2022 03:30 PM (hlxe7)

120 Synagogue hostage-taking in TX by Moslem.

https://twitter.com/AmichaiStein1/status/
1482444390522101769

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 15, 2022 03:35 PM (UHVv4)

121 Guy from Newsmax. [Six hostages reported last.]

Logan Ratick @Logan_Ratick; 15m
ABC is reporting one suspect has taken the rabbi and three others hostage at a synagogue in Colleyville, TX. The hostage-taker is claiming to be armed and says his sister is Aafia Siddiqui, who was convicted in New York of trying to kill US military personnel (she's incarcerated)

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 15, 2022 03:42 PM (UHVv4)

122 #121 Ratick link:

https://twitter.com/Logan_Ratick/status/
1482448832088657921

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 15, 2022 03:48 PM (UHVv4)

123 I think I'm going to try growing potatoes for the first time this year if I can find starts (eyes? whatever potato pieces are called). I've never bothered before, but now I hear there is a shortage.

Posted by: Emmie at January 15, 2022 02:34 PM (6RgRK)

We used to place them on a tray to get eyes to sprout. I heard you can cut them into pieces, as long as you have a few eyes on each one.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 15, 2022 04:27 PM (Mzdiz)

124 This counts as gardening. growing flax to make linen.

https://youtu.be/3JKhhtoe9v4

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at January 15, 2022 04:39 PM (YynYJ)

125 Notsothoreau - look forward at January 15, 2022 04:39 PM

Nice video. I think flax flowers are loverly.

Posted by: KT at January 15, 2022 05:28 PM (0ghg2)

126 So, anybody else have "WTF?" gardening stories?

Today, I found a pineapple plant growing halfway up a camphor tree I was trimming (no pineapple yet, maybe one later this year if it makes it through the winter.) Critters raided my pineapples earlier this year, never did find one of the tops, until today... ;-)

Posted by: the last to post at January 15, 2022 06:10 PM (GzZvP)

127 Bonnie Blue - says FU at January 15, 2022 03:30 PM

Some daylilies are more edible than others. I would go for a species known to be edible.

Posted by: KT at January 15, 2022 08:44 PM (0ghg2)

128 the last to post at January 15, 2022 06:10 PM

Now THERE'S an unusual garden story for AoSHQ! Any idea what kind of critters they were?

Posted by: KT at January 15, 2022 08:45 PM (0ghg2)

129 From Boise area: Lows this past week 21 to 28 F, highs 34 to 39 F. No precipitation.

We canned up 10 half-pint jars of red raspberry jelly, and 7 jars of syrup, this week - all from a gallon of juice we had previously made by steam-juicing our fruit, and saved in the chest freezer. (Actually, I should say, 13 jars of jelly. A friend in WY sent us 3 jars of *her* homemade jellies last Christmas, so we refilled her jars with *our* jelly and will be sending her jars back that way. We have to say, her varieties are more interesting than ours - but there's nothing wrong with a good jar of red raspberry jelly!)

I haven't been able to get the "quail/wild bird seed blocks" that I usually buy each winter, so I've put out some wheat berries, and some of the mix I put in the seed feeder out front (hulled sunflower seeds, millet, crushed dry roasted peanuts). I'll see how the quail like each of those. Might not be full of vitamins and minerals as the seed block claims, but it's better than going hungry.

Went to the Idaho State Junior Olympics qualifying match in Twin Falls today.

Good to see S.Lynn posting - I'm behind on sending her some Email, so this was a reminder to get on it.

Posted by: Pat* at January 15, 2022 11:49 PM (2pX/F)

130 the last to post at January 15, 2022 06:10 PM

Now THERE'S an unusual garden story for AoSHQ! Any idea what kind of critters they were?

Posted by: KT at January 15, 2022 08:45 PM (0ghg2)
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Raccoons. Smart lil bastards...

Posted by: the last to post at January 16, 2022 01:03 AM (jlija)

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