R's Posting Their L's in Leadership Positions: GOP "Leader" Kevin McCarthy Defends 13 Defectors That Supported Biden's Pork-Heavy, Social-Spending-Heavy Fake Infrastructure Bill; Claims That Paul Gosar's Posting of a <i>Meme</i> Is Just as Bad

R's Posting Their L's in Leadership Positions: GOP "Leader" Kevin McCarthy Defends 13 Defectors That Supported Biden's Pork-Heavy, Social-Spending-Heavy Fake Infrastructure Bill; Claims That Paul Gosar's Posting of a Meme Is Just as Bad

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What.

Is.

The Point.

Of voting for this party.

Chip Roy makes that exact point. He demands that McCarthy explain to him how he can make the case to his voters to vote Republican, when Republicans vote with the Democrats every. single. time.

And the leadership defends them. Every. Single. Time.

Melanie Zanona
@MZanona
NEW: During a closed door party meeting, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy urged Republicans to stick together as some in the conference vow retaliation against the 13 Rs who voted for infrastructure, saying now isn’t the time to go after fellow members, per sources in room.
McCarthy also told members he talked to Gosar about his anime video depicting violence against Dems & he took the vid down.

It was an anime featuring a cartoon super samurai hitting a giant kaiju with AOC's face in the neck with a blade.

He retweeted it.

This is the CNN wrestling video all over again, and Kevin McCarthy is, again, taking the CNN side of the "controversy."

Re: My description of the clip:

I'm confused. I thought it was an Attack on Titan parody? (Season 1 has the best anime opening song, IMO.)
Posted by: Pooky's Girl

it was, did I describe it wrong? I don't know anime. I didn't see the clip because it's CENSORED because it's SO TRIGGERING and INCITING TO VIOLENCE. I am going by vague verbal descriptions, which are also CENSORED due to being LITERALLY VIOLENCE.

He pointed out Dems havent punished their own members like Maxine Waters, who said "we've got to get more confrontational" about police brutality.
Gosar also got up at the mics to try to explain his anime video and said a threat of violence was not his intention, sources said.

No it was a dumb thing he retweeted from a supporter that meant nothing except "Yay Paul, you get that AOC!"

And everyone knows this, including the leftwing propagandists who claim Your Speech Is Violence And I Feel Unsafe.

MORE NEWS from GOP meeting: Rep. Chip Roy and McCarthy got into a heated exchange, per source.

Roy lamented that he has to now go back to his district and explain why people should bother voting Republican when they handed a victory to Dems, and argued leadership should act.

McCarthy then got up and shot back that he's had to explain to voters many times votes that Roy has taken.

Roy pressed McCarthy to name which votes he was taking about -- "Really?" said Roy -- but McCarthy didn't name any, the source said.

But the GOP will do nothing about this, because it's not a conservative party. It's an Alternate Democrat Party.

Rep. Brian Babin tells me people are really "mad" and "upset" that Republicans didn't stay unified in opposition to the infrastructure bill and is considering supporting this resolution.
Rep. Jim Jordan, a McCarthy ally, says there "ought to be a discussion" about it.

Rep. Ralph Norman, a freedom caucus member, tells me "the time is right" to pursue punishment against Katko.
But several Rs -- including some that opposed infra -- did stand up during meeting to defend the infrastructure Rs, saying everyone has a right to vote their districts.

Katko is the ranking member on the Homeland Security Committee. I'm sure he's not doing business with the Democrats on Russiagate stuff at all. And I'm sure he's a real Border Hawk.

Breitbart explains what a leftwing disaster this bill is.

Despite its moniker as a "bipartisan infrastructure bill," the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act contains no conservative victories but has many leftist carveouts.

...
Rep. Jim Banks (R-IN), the Republican Study Committee (RSC) chairman, noted that only $110 billion of the $1.2 trillion in spending would fund roads, bridges, and other projects that most Americans would consider infrastructure.
The bill would fix "racism physically built into some of our highways," as Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg has claimed.
...
The bipartisan infrastructure would also advance leftist priorities:
Defines "gender identity" as a protected class.
Doles out "digital equity" grants partly based on racial or ethnic minority status.
State-mandated carbon reduction program
Contains funding for "zero-emission vehicles"
Addresses "over-the-road bus tolling equity"
Contains the word "equity" 64 times
Provides roughly $2.5 billion to help the U.S. government expand the border processing stations used by migrants from poor Central American nations and other regions around the world.
Contains a $10 million grant to create a Vehicle Miles Travelled Tax (VMT) Pilot program, which many conservatives argue could lead to a permanent VMT tax.
A $1 million per state grant to encourage children to walk to school.

That's the only one I don't mind: everyone should walk more.

But what does that have to do with infrastructure?

Thank you, RINOs!

And thank you, McCarthy, for defending them!

Meanwhile: Both Liz Cheney and John Katko are proud to be called RINOs.

Democrat-aligned Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) and Rep. John Katko (R-NY) on Monday celebrated being publicly called "RINOs."
According to a Bloomberg reporter, Cheney and Katko passed one another outside the House chamber. Cheney shouted at Katko, "Hey, it's the RINO!"
"Takes one to know one," Katko replied, acknowledging their political opposition to American First Republicanism.

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Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at November 16, 2021 01:20 PM (8D42x)

2 and of course he does. have to keep the grift going...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at November 16, 2021 01:20 PM (8D42x)

3 corgis called

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at November 16, 2021 01:21 PM (8D42x)

4 Help us stop those big spending democrats! Donate today!!!

Posted by: GOP at November 16, 2021 01:22 PM (KmwsH)

5 Time for McCarthy to go, and not voluntarily. It's the only way to make them understand.

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2021 01:22 PM (ZsR3z)

6 Now is not the time? Huh?

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at November 16, 2021 01:22 PM (TRGyz)

7 Dem leadership is so much better at keeping their people in line and more willing to bust Dem heads to do it. They also actually mean what they say when they're making campaign promises.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 16, 2021 01:22 PM (BJKQV)

8 Help us stop those big spending democrats!

Posted by: GOP

You first.

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2021 01:22 PM (ZsR3z)

9 McCarthy, Romney....I get 'em confused all the time.

Posted by: BignJames at November 16, 2021 01:22 PM (AwYPR)

10 This is why I cannot feel hyped about the GOPe taking over in '22. They have literally taken no stand. They have advocated for nothing. They have stabbed in the back anyone who tries to go against the flow.

This is like a moral trap. You obviously do not want the Dems in power. However, the opposition is likely to look at a majority and do different bad things.

Primaries are the only option.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 16, 2021 01:23 PM (csEWM)

11 McCarthy and McConnell have to go

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2021 01:23 PM (87qwM)

12 Dem leadership is so much better at keeping their people in line and more willing to bust Dem heads to do it. They also actually mean what they say when they're making campaign promises.

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They are also willing to sacrifice people to make Dem gains.

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at November 16, 2021 01:23 PM (sX1BW)

13 Jeez. Guess I'll have to send them even more money to help them "fight Biden and Pelosi's leftist agendas"!

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at November 16, 2021 01:23 PM (z0CLa)

14 Not the hill to die on, peeple.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 16, 2021 01:24 PM (guGkK)

15 The graft must flow.

Posted by: GOPe Navigator at November 16, 2021 01:24 PM (xh83U)

16 Obligatory "vote harderer" comment

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 16, 2021 01:24 PM (cSs/W)

17 There is ONE party, not two.

McCarthy does not represent us, he represents himself.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 16, 2021 01:24 PM (XvPQV)

18 Would be better if they picked a scene from Berserk instead of AoT....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 16, 2021 01:24 PM (6FeV1)

19 The best thing is to get based Republican freshman into the House, enough that will dedicate to the idea of not having McCarthy.

Otherwise McCarthy is definitely going to be Speaker.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 16, 2021 01:24 PM (LvTSG)

20 This is why the value of the Dems are going to get wiped out narrative is, well, nil.

VOTE HARDER BISHES!

Posted by: blaster at November 16, 2021 01:24 PM (WoyGL)

21 One year ago I said I was done Voting.

This year I tore up my ballot. I'll do the same next year.

A lot of people said the same thing last year.

And they're already all in on 22.

They literally can't wait for a fresh round of betrayal.

Posted by: I mean at November 16, 2021 01:24 PM (E04R+)

22 There is no point of voting for the GOP. GOP voters should be telling Reps and Senators up for election that unless they grow a pair and throw out McBeijing and McLuntzy, and there hanger on gang of RINO Quislings, they won't bother to vote.

Just look at the string of losers we have had for Speaker since 2000....and McConnell is a world class loser.

Posted by: Dantes at November 16, 2021 01:24 PM (tpxOj)

23 Well. Marjorie Taylor Greene is running a PAC that has the sole purpose to primary turncoat Rs and RINOs.

So that is at least something.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 16, 2021 01:24 PM (TMkNt)

24 could have had the quads, but work got in the way...

and fuck mccarthy with big mikes dick

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at November 16, 2021 01:25 PM (8D42x)

25 At least they aren't using real money. Money printer go burrrrrrhhhh.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 16, 2021 01:25 PM (arc6y)

26 They literally can't wait for a fresh round of betrayal.

Posted by: I mean

We can't all be virtuous paragons like you.

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2021 01:25 PM (ZsR3z)

27 The only good thing about the MO delegation is that Blunt announced his retirement before stabbing us repeatedly in the back. The Blunt family used to have pull here. At least that's over . . .

And my rep is part of the problem. Safe as can be, and zero town halls or constituent meetings in multiple years. And no one will challenge him because he is not stupid enough to hand dems victories like the 1.2T bill.

Posted by: Catherine--who generally doesn't curse. at November 16, 2021 01:25 PM (XnnHY)

28 I rate this story as "fake news."

No way anyone could understand McCarthy cause of Luntz' dick in his mouth ...

Posted by: Lrrr at November 16, 2021 01:25 PM (pmyGb)

29 NEW: During a closed door party meeting, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy urged Republicans to stick together as some in the conference vow retaliation against the 13 Rs who voted for infrastructure, saying now isn't the time to go after fellow members, per sources in room.
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Okay, Kev. I will consider your position that unity is the most important thing to maintain minority influence, but I have a condition. In order for me to consider your position, you need to tell me when it *will* be the time to go after assholes with "R" after their names, and what they will have to do to make that response valid.

Because this is pretty bad, Kev. It was a betrayal, and a betrayal and long and virtually unbroken line of previous betrayals. So what will it take, and when will it be acceptable? You need to answer that in order for your position to even be considered instead of rejected out of hand.

But you won't answer that and you can't answer that. So I reject it out of hand. Fuck you.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2021 01:25 PM (DU+/6)

30 This is why I cannot feel hyped about the GOPe taking over in '22.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 16, 2021 01:23 PM (csEWM)

There's always more voters to betray.

Posted by: BignJames at November 16, 2021 01:25 PM (AwYPR)

31 These fucking guys....

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 16, 2021 01:25 PM (ufFY8)

32 It's perfect that McCarthy leads the House repukes. He's from California, and the California contingent of MCs is worse than useless. Everything that the GOP does in CA is failure.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 16, 2021 01:25 PM (guGkK)

33 Is he still playing house with Frank Luntz?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 16, 2021 01:25 PM (ptqGC)

34 McCarthy agrees with Liz Cheney on Trump and is annoyed that he has had to distance himself from her and hope she retains her seat.

Prove me wrong.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 16, 2021 01:25 PM (G2zl5)

35 One day you're posting anime memes, the next day you're reposting Pepe memes from 4chan and revealing the workings of the international globohomo alliance on twitter. It's a slippery slope.

Posted by: brak at November 16, 2021 01:26 PM (KmwsH)

36 Stabbed in the back again. Quelle surprise.

Posted by: Count de Monet, Unvaccinated Kulak-American at November 16, 2021 01:26 PM (4I/2K)

37 Well. Marjorie Taylor Greene is running a PAC that has the sole purpose to primary turncoat Rs and RINOs.

So that is at least something.

Thanks for letting me know. What's the name? I'll cut a check.

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2021 01:26 PM (ZsR3z)

38 >Roy pressed McCarthy to name which votes he was taking about -- "Really?" said Roy -- but McCarthy didn't name any, the source said.

"Trust me, my girlfriend from Canada says your votes are playing horribly there."

--McCarthy, probably

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 16, 2021 01:26 PM (cSs/W)

39 But... Trump said pussy! He tweeted mean things! Why are you making this so hard?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 16, 2021 01:26 PM (FUyxy)

40 The graft must flow.

Posted by: GOPe Navigator at November 16, 2021 01:24 PM (xh83U)

The worms protect the graft, making it harder for outsiders to mine.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at November 16, 2021 01:26 PM (uhPTO)

41 "Rep. Jim Jordan, a McCarthy ally,..."

This is all you need to know about that Google-grifting fool. I didn't know that he was an 'ally' before this article.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 16, 2021 01:26 PM (Wo4FI)

42 We can't all be virtuous paragons like you.

Posted by: pep at November

You love being manipulated and lied to.

Got it.

Posted by: I mean at November 16, 2021 01:26 PM (E04R+)

43 40 The graft must flow.

Posted by: GOPe Navigator at November 16, 2021 01:24 PM (xh83U)

The worms protect the graft, making it harder for outsiders to mine.
Posted by: Grudge Harbor at November 16, 2021 01:26 PM (uhPTO)

========

Just wait until people learn the true relationship between the worms and the graft.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 16, 2021 01:27 PM (LvTSG)

44 Jeez. Guess I'll have to send them even more money to help them "fight Biden and Pelosi's leftist agendas"!
Posted by: Shooter McGavin at November 16, 2021 01:23 PM (z0CLa)

PRO TIP: Always wait for the 10X matching. That way you get the most bank for your commie-fighting buck!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 16, 2021 01:27 PM (guGkK)

45 I will say that us on the right can be very emotional. We were all thrilled with the Youngkin win and other wins that night and now we are back here.

I get it but if anything has been proven it is this; you gotta take action and keep the pressure on. These people want power? Fine but you better do right by us or you will never serve again.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 16, 2021 01:27 PM (TMkNt)

46 "you make me feel unsafe"

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plz, do not attempt to weaponize your emotional inadequacy against me.

Posted by: simpering crap weasels at November 16, 2021 01:27 PM (j2QyB)

47 Well, not to worry, from a resident of NY-24, John Katko is FINISHED. There is ZERO chance he is re-elected and I'd say it's even money he retires before he even has to face a primary that already has two challengers lining up.

I'd vote for Uber Democrat Progressive Satan himself over Katko and know plenty of people who feel the same.

Hopefully Wyoming can follow suit.

Posted by: deadrody at November 16, 2021 01:27 PM (/jrmI)

48 32 It's perfect that McCarthy leads the House repukes. He's from California, and the California contingent of MCs is worse than useless. Everything that the GOP does in CA is failure.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 16, 2021 01:25 PM (guGkK)

Yup.. I'm in Commiefornia and even with all this I vote... Of course my vote never counts but I do it anyway...I am not a registered Republican but an an Independent ...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2021 01:27 PM (87qwM)

49 MTG.

McCarthy went along with Pelosis demand and kicked her off the committees.

Worthless.

Posted by: blaster at November 16, 2021 01:27 PM (WoyGL)

50 Meanwhile, Paul Mirengoff, the never-Trump squish at PowerLine, has the sadz that the Wyoming Republican Party has noticed that Liz Cheney is no longer a Republican.

In America, as opposed to one-party, totalitarian nations, "reading people out" of a movement or a party is characteristic of cults and tiny sectarian groups.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 16, 2021 01:27 PM (I2/tG)

51 Mos Eisley has nothing on the DC Cabal.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 16, 2021 01:27 PM (arc6y)

52 We are going to find out soon if state national guards can divorce themselves from the federal military.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 16, 2021 01:28 PM (FUyxy)

53 This is not a serious political party; rarely has been. I mean, I won't vote for a Democrat, but why would anyone releect a sitting Republican anymore?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2021 01:28 PM (VWp7G)

54 RINOs becoming extinct would be far superior to actual Rhinos being extinct.

Posted by: Czech Chick at November 16, 2021 01:28 PM (haWye)

55 Posted by: pep at November 16, 2021 01:26 PM (ZsR3z)

Not sure but I am sure you can DDG or Goolag it.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 16, 2021 01:28 PM (TMkNt)

56 Unexpectedly.

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! at November 16, 2021 01:28 PM (/z9fK)

57 Hopefully Wyoming can follow suit.

Just because I don't dare publicly show my face on Wyoming doesn't mean I can't run an effective reelection campaign!

Posted by: Liz! at November 16, 2021 01:28 PM (I2/tG)

58 Can't believe Don Bacon voted for that crap. Hope he has a viable primary opponent next August.

Posted by: Greyman27 at November 16, 2021 01:28 PM (RKLPC)

59 What.

Is.

The.
Point.

Of voting for this party.

Posted by: Ace at 01:20 PM

This is where I am. But I get scolded for it.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 16, 2021 01:28 PM (Ez6QX)

60 Oh, NOW we have to "stick together." I see.

Posted by: Bubba at November 16, 2021 01:29 PM (k+ZHj)

61 Yeah, okay, I guess Representative Republic means voted for stupid things, rather than looking out for the best interests of the country.

Pelosi didn't have the votes, because enough people on her side didn't have the cover needed. So, what does the GOP do, under McCarthy? Gives Dem reps the cover they needed.

And you know things had to be bad, if Pelosi couldn't get her people to unanimously toe the line.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 16, 2021 01:29 PM (IUFR3)

62 Meanwhile, Paul Mirengoff, the never-Trump squish at PowerLine, has the sadz that the Wyoming Republican Party has noticed that Liz Cheney is no longer a Republican.

Whatever happened to the Big Tent, people?

Posted by: Karl Rove at November 16, 2021 01:29 PM (guGkK)

63 Every time I see some retarded-ass "Republican" on TV these days I expect to hear the Sarah McLachlin music behind them. "For just the price of a cup of coffee a day, you too can help sponsor these poor defenseless souls. Won't you give now. Join us. Help slow down the commie takeover. Socialism bad. CRT bad. America good. Freedom fries."

Posted by: ... at November 16, 2021 01:29 PM (o7Dk/)

64 Being called a Rino is not a complement. The fact that they look and smell like actual rhinoceros's is just frosting on the cake.

Posted by: Cheri at November 16, 2021 01:29 PM (oiNtH)

65 RINOs becoming extinct would be far superior to actual Rhinos being extinct.
Posted by: Czech Chick at November 16, 2021 01:28 PM (haWye)
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Be careful what you wish for. Just in case it hasn't been made clear over the past decade, realize that *you* are the RINO, not people like McCarthy. People like him are the Real McCoy Republicans. The base are the RINOs.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2021 01:29 PM (DU+/6)

66 Allen G was a prophet. I miss his daily mantra.

Posted by: Count de Monet, Unvaccinated Kulak-American at November 16, 2021 01:29 PM (4I/2K)

67 I'm voting present.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 16, 2021 01:29 PM (arc6y)

68 Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 16, 2021 01:26 PM (Wo4FI)

A more buff and heterosexual version of Lindsay Graham.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 16, 2021 01:29 PM (TMkNt)

69 McCarthy went along with Pelosis demand and kicked her off the committees.
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Uniparty is girthy.

Posted by: Uniparty Again with the in your face evidence at November 16, 2021 01:29 PM (Mzne0)

70 To be honest, I'm all for a third party. Yes, it will take forever to win elections, but if it sends a message to the GOP - it won't - at least we can stop electing these people.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2021 01:29 PM (VWp7G)

71 Honestly, I feel like I'm the RINO. Liz Cheney represents the real Republican Party.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 16, 2021 01:29 PM (18UdP)

72 I keep saying this and apparently need to keep saying it, based on this meeting.

The House GOP better rise up and dump McCarthy as their leader. The Republicans will probably retake the House next year. The next Speaker of the House should not come from California but from an actual solid conservative district in a Red state.

This is a prerequisite to get actual conservative leadership in congress and embolden those who are willing to fight.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at November 16, 2021 01:29 PM (TNyrE)

73 But several Rs -- including some that opposed infra -- did stand up during meeting to defend the infrastructure Rs, saying everyone has a right to vote their districts.

If "voting your district" means voting with the Dems, then you're better off as a Democrat and not a Republican.

And representing the interests of your district doesn't mean being a rubber stamp for bad laws. Leadership means that you have to be willing to stand up and explain to the voters back home why the popular bill was a bad bill. They elect you to do the hard work of reading the bills, understanding the positive and negative effects, and making the tough decisions.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 16, 2021 01:30 PM (wmDcS)

74 Whatever happened to the Big Tent, people?
Posted by: Karl Rove at November 16, 2021 01:29 PM (guGkK)

It got so full of elephant shit they had to close down the circus.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 16, 2021 01:30 PM (6FeV1)

75 Woohoo -- my copy of JJ's book just arrived at my house!!

Posted by: Doof at November 16, 2021 01:30 PM (mZUr4)

76 I need my Franky.

Posted by: Frank Luntz's Roommate at November 16, 2021 01:30 PM (B0mGw)

77

The Democrats no longer have to steal elections. They stole the opposition.

Decades ago, probably.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 16, 2021 01:30 PM (s2VJv)

78 23 Well. Marjorie Taylor Greene is running a PAC that has the sole purpose to primary turncoat Rs and RINOs.

So that is at least something.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 16, 2021 01:24 PM (TMkNt)

She has no reason to do otherwise; the GOP didn't have her back when they let Pelosi take away her committee assignments. Now that she has no allegiance to McCarthy, she can do this. Let a thousand flowers bloom: this is the way to take out the GOPe. BTW, Trump should be doing this as well. If leadership is intent on 'moving on' from the Trump era, he should be looking to take out the GOPe as well. He has more than enough $ in donations to do just that.

Let the RNC donate Trump's mailing list to everyone in retaliation. One word from The Donald, and none of the base donates.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 16, 2021 01:30 PM (Wo4FI)

79 7 Dem leadership is so much better at keeping their people in line and more willing to bust Dem heads to do it. They also actually mean what they say when they're making campaign promises.
Posted by: 29Victor at November 16, 2021 01:22 PM (BJKQV)
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And - AND - they aren't above using gullible DOP dupes to pass their shit on the rare occasion that they can't keep their caucus in line. Bipartisan "iNfRaStRuCtUrE" bill included.

Tell me the last time Democrat votes were used to pass something a Republican President wanted, but couldn't get using his own party's votes ???!?!?!?

I think maybe you have to go back to either Medicare Part D or No Child Left Behind under Bush, and doesn't THAT tell you all you need to know ?

Posted by: deadrody at November 16, 2021 01:31 PM (/jrmI)

80 Anytime you hang.....never mind.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at November 16, 2021 01:31 PM (aSP4R)

81 75 Woohoo -- my copy of JJ's book just arrived at my house!!
Posted by: Doof at November 16, 2021 01:30 PM (mZUr4)

"To Doof, with love...."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 16, 2021 01:31 PM (s2VJv)

82 I'm pitching a big tent.

Posted by: Brandon at November 16, 2021 01:31 PM (arc6y)

83 "Whatever happened to the Big Tent, people?"

They're not allowed within 100 feet of schools, for starters.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 16, 2021 01:31 PM (B0mGw)

84 ...So can I ask the "keep voting" crowd- how hard do I need to vote to get shit like this to stop?

Because simply "not as bad...most of the time" is an option I no longer feel any reason to support.

Posted by: Bete at November 16, 2021 01:31 PM (F9322)

85 50 Meanwhile, Paul Mirengoff, the never-Trump squish at PowerLine, has the sadz that the Wyoming Republican Party has noticed that Liz Cheney is no longer a Republican.

In America, as opposed to one-party, totalitarian nations, "reading people out" of a movement or a party is characteristic of cults and tiny sectarian groups.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 16, 2021 01:27 PM (I2/tG)

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It's also emblematic of a political party that's trying to maintain some semblance of cohesive political ideology. WY GOP seems less worthless than DC GOP. Not bad.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 16, 2021 01:31 PM (LvTSG)

86 I keep saying this and apparently need to keep saying it, based on this meeting.

The House GOP better rise up and dump McCarthy as their leader. The Republicans will probably retake the House next year. The next Speaker of the House should not come from California but from an actual solid conservative district in a Red state.

This is a prerequisite to get actual conservative leadership in congress and embolden those who are willing to fight.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at November 16, 2021 01:29 PM (TNyrE)

And sit the fuck down, Crenshaw. You ain't it. I shall not vote for you, forevermore.

Posted by: Count de Monet, Unvaccinated Kulak-American at November 16, 2021 01:32 PM (4I/2K)

87 Meanwhile, Paul Mirengoff, the never-Trump squish at PowerLine, has the sadz that the Wyoming Republican Party has noticed that Liz Cheney is no longer a Republican.

In his article, Mirengoff literally quotes AllahPundit.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 16, 2021 01:32 PM (I2/tG)

88 Get rid of every fkin one of them.

Posted by: Skip's Phone at November 16, 2021 01:32 PM (Hjfcs)

89 i told you all, the free stuff is the worst part of these bills

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 16, 2021 01:32 PM (ZZK0E)

90 Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 16, 2021 01:30 PM (Wo4FI)

She seems like the real deal Holyfield. From that PAC to her work on J6 she been solid.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 16, 2021 01:32 PM (TMkNt)

91 In theory, I'm not opposed to letting squishes and CoC shills in marginal districts occasionally vote like squishes and CoC shills. The problem with the BIF vote is that was bad/dumb tactics.

If McCarthy could have told the thirteen, "Hey, we're going to let you vote for this ... eventually. But the smart play here is to let Biden twist in the wind for a bit. Plus, let me see if we can leverage your BIF votes for something worthwhile." But McCarthy was just like, "Whatevs. Hey Luntz, what are you cooking me for dinner tonight?"

Posted by: Match Checksout at November 16, 2021 01:32 PM (dYe5S)

92 McCarthy likes to suck more hose than Harris, and he doesn't get anything good in return for conservatives. He's got to go. He's awful.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 16, 2021 01:32 PM (DcKNO)

93 Tearing up your vote doesn't make you virtuous. Smart, maybe. But not virtuous.

Posted by: ... at November 16, 2021 01:32 PM (o7Dk/)

94 They...don't actually know what "RINO" means, do they.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 16, 2021 01:32 PM (Bmy3R)

95 >>Well. Marjorie Taylor Greene is running a PAC that has the sole purpose to primary turncoat Rs and RINOs.

So is Trump. He's already taken out Kinzinger with more on the way.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 16, 2021 01:32 PM (ZLI7S)

96 MTG was removed from committees.

Liz Cheney is still in Armed Services.

What more do you need to know?

Posted by: blaster at November 16, 2021 01:33 PM (WoyGL)

97 72 The House GOP better rise up and dump McCarthy as their leader. The Republicans will probably retake the House next year. The next Speaker of the House should not come from California but from an actual solid conservative district in a Red state.

This is a prerequisite to get actual conservative leadership in congress and embolden those who are willing to fight.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at November 16, 2021 01:29 PM (TNyrE)

==========

The current caucus would put him in if they could. The ones who won't put him there aren't there yet, if they get there at all. Our hope is the primaries.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 16, 2021 01:33 PM (LvTSG)

98 "...So can I ask the "keep voting" crowd- how hard do I need to vote to get shit like this to stop?"

@Beta

If you can assure me that your school isn't putting out CRT and your congressman isn't a lobbyist-beholden RINO and you voted for the Donald, I will concede you're probably voting hard enough.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 16, 2021 01:33 PM (B0mGw)

99 They're Republicans. We're the RINOs.

Posted by: brak at November 16, 2021 01:33 PM (KmwsH)

100 Never trust a man who would stick his dick in Renee Ellmers.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 16, 2021 01:33 PM (wmDcS)

101 What is my cut of the free shit.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 16, 2021 01:33 PM (arc6y)

102 Woohoo -- my copy of JJ's book just arrived at my house!!
Posted by: Doof at November 16, 2021 01:30 PM (mZUr4)

"To Doof, with love...."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 16, 2021 01:31 PM (s2VJv)

Thanks!! That's even better than those horde hug things the 'ettes do.

Posted by: Doof at November 16, 2021 01:33 PM (mZUr4)

103 If people had listened to Bill Kristol and Rick Wilson the GOP would be back on top again.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 16, 2021 01:33 PM (guGkK)

104 The Democrats no longer have to steal elections. They stole the opposition.

Decades ago, probably.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 16, 2021 01:30 PM (s2VJv)

They prefer the term "paid off".

Posted by: ... at November 16, 2021 01:33 PM (o7Dk/)

105 99 They're Republicans. We're the RINOs.
Posted by: brak at November 16, 2021 01:33 PM (KmwsH)

Wow. Good point!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 16, 2021 01:34 PM (s2VJv)

106 50 Meanwhile, Paul Mirengoff, the never-Trump squish at PowerLine, has the sadz that the Wyoming Republican Party has noticed that Liz Cheney is no longer a Republican.

In America, as opposed to one-party, totalitarian nations, "reading people out" of a movement or a party is characteristic of cults and tiny sectarian groups.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 16, 2021 01:27 PM (I2/tG)

BTW, I'm not giving the WY GOP any great credit on this. They probably would have been very happy to keep Cheney where she was, if not for that annoying 'base'. They needed to do what they did to keep their heads above water in that state.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 16, 2021 01:34 PM (Wo4FI)

107 >>>The House GOP better rise up and dump McCarthy as their leader. The Republicans will probably retake the House next year. The next Speaker of the House should not come from California but from an actual solid conservative district in a Red state.

Never happen. Not enough GOPers with stones to vote against McCarthy.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2021 01:34 PM (VWp7G)

108
A $1 million per state grant to encourage children to walk to school.

It's all fun and games until some geriatric 'tard jumps out of the bushes and starts sniffing their hair and tweaking the girls budding nips.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus, Vaccine and Massage Parlor at November 16, 2021 01:34 PM (dQvv7)

109 5 Time for McCarthy to go, and not voluntarily. It's the only way to make them understand.
Posted by: pep at November 16, 2021 01:22 PM (ZsR3z)

Didn't work when Boner was kicked out, won't now. The party won't understand because it is in its financial interest not to understand.

But if we try to make them understand, the usual "But the Dems will win!" crowd will start chanting, as they are happy being slowly boiled in the pot.

Posted by: Bete at November 16, 2021 01:34 PM (F9322)

110 >In America, as opposed to one-party, totalitarian nations, "reading people out" of a movement or a party is characteristic of cults and tiny sectarian groups.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 16, 2021 01:27 PM (I2/tG)

But the way that the uniparty and deep state lined up in lockstep to thwart Trump was totally normal American democracy!

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 16, 2021 01:34 PM (cSs/W)

111 I've had it. I'm leaving the GOP for good!

DO YOU HEAR ME????

Posted by: Max Boot at November 16, 2021 01:34 PM (guGkK)

112 106 BTW, I'm not giving the WY GOP any great credit on this. They probably would have been very happy to keep Cheney where she was, if not for that annoying 'base'. They needed to do what they did to keep their heads above water in that state.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 16, 2021 01:34 PM (Wo4FI)

=========

Were the WY GOP afraid of the base voting too hard?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 16, 2021 01:34 PM (LvTSG)

113 Any chance of getting King Harv to run things in DC?

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 16, 2021 01:34 PM (PFcQG)

114 Not only was this a betrayal it was done mere days after the democract disasters in Virginia, NJ, and other states. The voters in those states drummed the shit out of d-rat policies and the GOPe ignored the election results so they could suck national D-rat dick.

Posted by: Beartooth at November 16, 2021 01:34 PM (KTaZ8)

115
No matter. Because the one Left-wing faction is doing their Left-wing worst, the other Left-wing faction will find no shortage of people to support them in doing their Left-wing mediocre-est.

Because this whole thing is a joke. It's a civic religion for many, and a team sport for the rest. And so it goes, and will continue to go.

The party-faithful often describe people like me as "Let It Burn" types. Au contraire. I'm standing back and watching it burn. Voters from both parties are the ones lining up to toss another armload on the fire, every two years, like clockwork.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 16, 2021 01:34 PM (/KPLX)

116 100 Never trust a man who would stick his dick in Renee Ellmers.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 16, 2021 01:33 PM (wmDcS)

"I know, right?!"

- - Katie Throuple Thrill Hill

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 16, 2021 01:34 PM (s2VJv)

117 Wasn't Kinzinger taken out by his democrat Allie's with redistricting?

Posted by: Buzzion at November 16, 2021 01:35 PM (G2zl5)

118 Anything to help schoolgirls with their personal hygiene.

Posted by: Brandon at November 16, 2021 01:35 PM (arc6y)

119 Posted by: Count de Monet, Unvaccinated Kulak-American at November 16, 2021 01:32 PM (4I/2K)

Crenshaw has been a deep disappointment. I mean wow.

Rs need an upgrade on their messaging. Socialism bad! *insert Reagan/80s trope* I love America!

Does not fly anymore. Cool we agree on all that but what about getting back to a one income family that could afford a vacation once a year? How about protecting our kids from all sick sexual perversion and racism in schools?

Tax cuts for mega corporations is not the way anymore. Rebuild the lower and middle class.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 16, 2021 01:35 PM (TMkNt)

120 McCarthy's every bit the Deep State stooge that Boehner and Ryan are, but literally dumber than AOC. And I never said that about Boehner and Ryan. Evil? Absolutely, but not stupid. McCarthy is stupid.

Posted by: PacosMojo at November 16, 2021 01:36 PM (3ATuz)

121 Fred Upton, Liz Cheney et al. Raised in Washington DC and never left, except temporarily for the purpose of establishing residency in their districts.

They represent Washington.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 16, 2021 01:36 PM (A0cwl)

122
Eric Cantor got his ass shit-canned by Dave Brat. And yet we still have McCarthy.

Not surprising. It's a rigged club. And we ain't in it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 16, 2021 01:36 PM (s2VJv)

123 So can I ask the "keep voting" crowd- how hard do I need to vote to get shit like this to stop?

Because simply "not as bad...most of the time" is an option I no longer feel any reason to support.
==
Don't sweat it. Next year is going to be lit as Fcuk. Be lucky to still have voting on the other side.

Their fixing to fire about 25% of the healthcare work force right in the middle of flu season. Maybe more. Gonna screw up the excess death statistics, and muddy of the effect of the never ending vax/booster scheme. Not to mention economic chaos. Unemployment next year is going to be record breaking HIGHS. Exploding budgets, bailouts, panics. Cats and dogs living together.

Posted by: Science is just a cheap con, a hustle . . . a dodge to you isn't it? at November 16, 2021 01:36 PM (1JlpQ)

124 120 McCarthy's every bit the Deep State stooge that Boehner and Ryan are, but literally dumber than AOC. And I never said that about Boehner and Ryan. Evil? Absolutely, but not stupid. McCarthy is stupid.
Posted by: PacosMojo at November 16, 2021 01:36 PM (3ATuz)

==========

Any Republican who thought the party had been purged of Trump and his influence in late January of 2021 was an idiot.

Weirdly enough, pretty much the entirety of the Republican leadership thought this way.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 16, 2021 01:36 PM (LvTSG)

125 Once you get Ellmers on your dick you never get it off.

Posted by: ... at November 16, 2021 01:36 PM (o7Dk/)

126 >>>116 100 Never trust a man who would stick his dick in Renee Ellmers.

or live with noted preposterous homosexual Frank Luntz.

Posted by: ace at November 16, 2021 01:37 PM (0G13K)

127 Any chance of getting King Harv to run things in DC?
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 16, 2021 01:34 PM (PFcQG)

If Rome could transition from republic to empire then so can we. And coffee!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 16, 2021 01:37 PM (guGkK)

128 Every sitting politician belongs in chains.

Posted by: Hold My Montrachet at November 16, 2021 01:37 PM (juH8z)

129 Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2021 01:34 PM (VWp7G)

A lot of Rs running have vowed to vote out McConnell and I think McCarthy. All hope is not lost but it sure as hell is frustrating.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 16, 2021 01:37 PM (TMkNt)

130 >>preposterous homosexual

I love that phrasing.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at November 16, 2021 01:38 PM (bNf8H)

131 Were the WY GOP afraid of the base voting too hard?

No. Of voting the correct way, with a rope and a tree.

Posted by: What wind? at November 16, 2021 01:38 PM (X5Gpg)

132 or live with noted preposterous homosexual Frank Luntz.
Posted by: ace at November 16, 2021 01:37 PM (0G13K)
++++
WE'RE JUST ROOMMATES! I'M FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE!

Posted by: Kevin McCarthy at November 16, 2021 01:38 PM (DU+/6)

133 They prefer the term "paid off".
Posted by: ... at November 16, 2021 01:33 PM (o7Dk/)

The last time they even bothered to pretend to be the opposition party, Newt just became the speaker of the house. Not very long after that they found the rubber stamp and endless supply of ink.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 16, 2021 01:38 PM (wAnMi)

134 It would be nice if we had at least one American Party in DC. Just one.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 16, 2021 01:39 PM (uia9V)

135 A lot of Rs running have vowed to vote out McConnell and I think McCarthy.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 16, 2021 01:37 PM (TMkNt)

Tea Party II: The Sequel

Posted by: ... at November 16, 2021 01:39 PM (o7Dk/)

136
Nancy Mace supports pot decriminalization. So there's that...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 16, 2021 01:39 PM (s2VJv)

137 5 Time for McCarthy to go, and not voluntarily. It's the only way to make them understand.
Posted by: pep at November 16, 2021 01:22 PM (ZsR3z)

Republican politicians will fight like dogs to keep their positions, but that's about all they'll fight for. But I think that the base has realized this (thanks to Trump) and won't stand for it any more.

Fingers crossed.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 16, 2021 01:39 PM (BJKQV)

138 Jackie Speier is eighth House Democrat to announce retirement in 2022.

Posted by: Greyman27 at November 16, 2021 01:39 PM (RKLPC)

139 Let the RNC donate Trump's mailing list to everyone in retaliation. One word from The Donald, and none of the base donates.

Posted by: Darrell Harris

I would be astonished if Trump hasn't already got something like this in the works. It would be amusing as hell if he's got a YUUUUUUGGGGGE warchest, and the RNC has zip.

We keep having the same sterile arguments about supporting the traitorous GOP or not, but this is the kind of thing that will finally cut the Gordian knot.

Also, as best I can tell, MTG's PAC is called Stop Socialism Now. It's at https://www.stopsocialismnowpac.com/. However, the website is virtually empty.

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2021 01:39 PM (ZsR3z)

140 Bohner, Ryan, McCarthy.

R's posting their L's.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 16, 2021 01:39 PM (DcKNO)

141 Rebuild the lower and middle class.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 16, 2021 01:35 PM (TMkNt)

Rebuild it and they will come, Ray. It's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again. Oh... people will come Ray. People will most definitely come.

Posted by: Terrance Mann at November 16, 2021 01:40 PM (4I/2K)

142 >>>R's posting their L's.

R's Posting Their L's In Leadership Positions.

Posted by: ace at November 16, 2021 01:40 PM (0G13K)

143 McCarthy is a California Republican. That should say everything right there. A CA Rep consultant lives in my neighborhood and has talked about how much insane money she's been paid to work for the Rs out there.

WHAT, exactly, THE FUCK HAS THAT ACCOMPLISHED IN CALIFORNIA?

Which, again, goes back to my point. If the politician is from California, they should be shamed and marginalized. Same from New York. Yet both coasts are running the House.

Posted by: Mr Fabulist at November 16, 2021 01:40 PM (oK/V2)

144 >>Wasn't Kinzinger taken out by his democrat Allie's with redistricting?

Certainly didn't help. But his polling was in the toilet anyway. Just like Cheney and all the others who went against Trump. He's made it a mission to take all of them down.

The goal is not to support the same old GOP, it's to change it.

BTW, Jump Kick Guy has been identified by a radio host. He's a career criminal with a lengthy record.

Good job, Kenosha cops.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 16, 2021 01:40 PM (ZLI7S)

145 126 >>>116 100 Never trust a man who would stick his dick in Renee Ellmers.

or live with noted preposterous homosexual Frank Luntz.
Posted by: ace at November 16, 2021 01:37 PM (0G13K)

So... if her preposterous as a man, a gay man or as a Frank Luntz? As a pollster?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 16, 2021 01:40 PM (csEWM)

146 136
Nancy Mace supports pot decriminalization. So there's that...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 16, 2021 01:39 PM (s2VJv)

==========

She also voted to hold Steve Bannon in contempt.

I regret my vote for her. 2020 was the first year in a while where I actually voted for incumbent Republicans, and I hate myself for it. I won't do it again.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 16, 2021 01:40 PM (LvTSG)

147 What are the chances that Washington D.C. and the Federal Government is little more than a vast money-laundering cartel that expends the lives of it's citizens carelessly in that pursuit, and really does not give a rat's ass about the condition of the citizenry? What re the chances that voting R will change that? Not that there are any palatable options. Not a "let it burn" type either, but me and the better half are working hard at getting out of the way as much as possible. What a cluster.

Posted by: Erik in Texas at November 16, 2021 01:40 PM (180Hg)

148 >>>A lot of Rs running have vowed to vote out McConnell and I think McCarthy. All hope is not lost but it sure as hell is frustrating.
Posted by: thathalfrican

Especially because they always make the same promises and rarely deliver.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2021 01:40 PM (VWp7G)

149 VOTE MORE HARDER-ER

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 16, 2021 01:40 PM (OalnH)

150 (She wasn't incumbent, but whatever.)

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 16, 2021 01:41 PM (LvTSG)

151 I'm confused. I thought it was an Attack on Titan parody? (Season 1 has the best anime opening song, IMO.)

Posted by: pookysgirl, not otaku enough at November 16, 2021 01:41 PM (XKZwp)

152 The only people I will ever vote for again are named Trump. Or *maybe* DeSantis.

Posted by: ... at November 16, 2021 01:41 PM (o7Dk/)

153 But we knew this about McCarthy.

The next leadership vote must be different.

Posted by: Harlock at November 16, 2021 01:41 PM (CyYHl)

154 >>>The only people I will ever vote for again are named Trump. Or *maybe* DeSantis.
Posted by: ...

I'd also vote for Rand Paul if I lived in Kentucky.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 16, 2021 01:42 PM (VWp7G)

155 >>>151 I'm confused. I thought it was an Attack on Titan parody? (Season 1 has the best anime opening song, IMO.)

it was, did I describe it wrong? I don't know anime. I didn't see the clip because it's CENSORED because it's SO TRIGGERING and INCITING TO VIOLENCE. I am going by vague verbal descriptions, which are also CENSORED due to being LITERALLY VIOLENCE.

Posted by: ace at November 16, 2021 01:42 PM (0G13K)

156 The only people I will ever vote for again are named Trump. Or *maybe* DeSantis.
Posted by: ... at November 16, 2021 01:41 PM (o7Dk/)

And guys who spend their campaign war chest at Duncan Donuts and their time talking to folks.

Posted by: Count de Monet, Unvaccinated Kulak-American at November 16, 2021 01:43 PM (4I/2K)

157 If King Harv reigned, Juan Valdez would be his Transportation Secretary.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 16, 2021 01:43 PM (guGkK)

158 Which, again, goes back to my point. If the politician is from California, they should be shamed and marginalized. Same from New York. Yet both coasts are running the House.

Posted by: Mr Fabulist at November 16, 2021 01:40 PM (oK/V2)

--------

You would think McCarthy would represent the oil and farming of his district. Obviously, he doesn't.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 16, 2021 01:43 PM (IUFR3)

159 One day you're posting anime memes, the next day you're reposting Pepe memes from 4chan and revealing the workings of the international globohomo alliance on twitter. It's a slippery slope.

I mean, international globohomo is real. It's not spectacular though.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 16, 2021 01:43 PM (ZGrMX)

160 The Greeks had it right with the sacred king.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 16, 2021 01:43 PM (arc6y)

161 So can I ask the "keep voting" crowd- how hard do I need to vote to get shit like this to stop?

Because simply "not as bad...most of the time" is an option I no longer feel any reason to support.

There is only one way, and that's to take away their money and, by extension, their seats. As Darrell Harris said above, Trump and MTG can spearhead alternative places to donate, and those places will NOT be RINO friendly.

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2021 01:43 PM (ZsR3z)

162 And guys who spend their campaign war chest at Duncan Donuts and their time talking to folks.
Posted by: Count de Monet, Unvaccinated Kulak-American at November 16, 2021 01:43 PM (4I/2K)

Yes that dude is cool

Posted by: ... at November 16, 2021 01:43 PM (o7Dk/)

163 153 But we knew this about McCarthy.

The next leadership vote must be different.

Posted by: Harlock at November 16, 2021 01:41 PM (CyYHl)

Leadership is all seniority. They'll all get back in.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 16, 2021 01:43 PM (N39Ws)

164 But we knew this about McCarthy.

The next leadership vote must be different.
Posted by: Harlock at November 16, 2021 01:41 PM (CyYHl)

Of course it will be. Now kick!

Posted by: Lucy at November 16, 2021 01:43 PM (guGkK)

165 99 They're Republicans. We're the RINOs.

Woah. Mind. Blown.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 16, 2021 01:44 PM (Bmy3R)

166 At this point, the only real reason to vote for the GOP is simply to say a dem lost a race.

That's it.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 16, 2021 01:44 PM (KbCG3)

167 Fearless Leader:
What.

Is.

The Point.

Of voting for this party.

They're not dimocrap scum. Sans two horns and a tail, they get my vote if they're running against the absolute scum-of-the-Earth dimocrap FILTH

Posted by: Uncle Rick at November 16, 2021 01:44 PM (48/MM)

168 Meanwhile, Paul Mirengoff, the never-Trump squish at PowerLine, has the sadz that the Wyoming Republican Party has noticed that Liz Cheney is no longer a Republican.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 16, 2021 01:27 PM (I2/tG)

I tried to read the piece, but I'm not enough of a masochist to get very far.

Posted by: pookysgirl, not a sadist either at November 16, 2021 01:44 PM (XKZwp)

169 I wouldn't mind seeing more of MTG either.

Posted by: ... at November 16, 2021 01:44 PM (o7Dk/)

170 163 Leadership is all seniority. They'll all get back in.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 16, 2021 01:43 PM (N39Ws)

=========

Speakership is a vote by the House as a whole. It can be short-circuited.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 16, 2021 01:44 PM (LvTSG)

171 Doesn't matter who's in Congress or in the Whitehouse. They will all become corrupt in the end. The Founding Fathers knew this. It's the human condition.

That's why we need a LIMITED GOVERNMENT!

They can't be trusted. Period.

How we get back to a limited government, I don't know. But I don't know that voting will fix this.

Posted by: Just Lily at November 16, 2021 01:44 PM (vivhj)

172
Gotta love GOP homos like Kevin and Miss Lindsey. At least the other side's are fabulous. "Ours" are like a convention for accountants, but with more closeted sodomy. Also, these accountants steal the money.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 16, 2021 01:45 PM (/KPLX)

173 Now isn't the time eh?
OK...so when is the time, muthafu*ka???
McCarthy, you have no idea of the disdain and contempt you have developed among American conservatives. The pictures the Dems have of you and your fellow GOPers must be doozies.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 16, 2021 01:45 PM (axyOa)

174 I would be willing to try Duncan Donuts. As good as Dunkin Donuts?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 16, 2021 01:45 PM (csEWM)

175 Fearless Leader:
What.
Is.
The Point.
Of voting for this party.

They're not dimocrap scum. Sans two horns and a tail, they get my vote if they're running against the absolute scum-of-the-Earth dimocrap FILTH
Posted by: Uncle Rick at November 16, 2021 01:44 PM (48/MM)

And don't forget to donate!

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at November 16, 2021 01:45 PM (guGkK)

176 171 How we get back to a limited government, I don't know. But I don't know that voting will fix this.
Posted by: Just Lily at November 16, 2021 01:44 PM (vivhj)

==========

I hope voting can get this. Otherwise the leviathan just gets larger until something breaks, and that breakage will not be peaceful.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 16, 2021 01:45 PM (LvTSG)

177 well, i voted this round in VA, fully expecting it to not matter. so i got a pleasant surprise there.

but i think the take away here is, vote in your state and local elections, and for any king of federal race, unless you're lucky enough to have MTG, Bobert, etc. vote OUT the incumbent, regardless of who they are.

will it work? probably not, but it won't hurt either, and at least on a state and local level you're more directly impacting your community and life.

until the feds usurp that authority...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at November 16, 2021 01:45 PM (8D42x)

178

A California Republican...

Ok, just as Commie as an Ohio Republican.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at November 16, 2021 01:45 PM (4WPW/)

179 I can't believe the GOP and McCarthy are this dense BUT we know who they are. Fuck them.

Posted by: Winston Smith at November 16, 2021 01:45 PM (cGQ7a)

180 I was re-reading some material about Julius Caesar last night. The material had to do with Caesar's political enemies and how both conservative and liberal members of the Roman Senate plotted against Caesar because Caesar was popular with the average citizen and that Caesar showed the average citizen that both sides of the senate were corrupt and only interested in keeping the status quo in power. Even those senators who were Caesar's friend plotted against him; fearful of losing their power.

It occurred to me how similar the situation was to how Trump was treated by the establishment in D.C.

Posted by: Archer at November 16, 2021 01:45 PM (gmo/4)

181 165 99 They're Republicans. We're the RINOs.

Woah. Mind. Blown.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 16, 2021 01:44 PM (Bmy3R)

Free your mind, Quaid.
-creepy chest puppet

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 16, 2021 01:45 PM (csEWM)

182 it was, did I describe it wrong? I don't know anime. I didn't see the clip because it's CENSORED because it's SO TRIGGERING and INCITING TO VIOLENCE. I am going by vague verbal descriptions, which are also CENSORED due to being LITERALLY VIOLENCE.
Posted by: ace at November 16, 2021 01:42 PM (0G1

I don't think they're considered Kaiju. And the people fighting them aren't samurai. At least in the few clips I've seen. Never really looked like something I wanted to check out.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 16, 2021 01:46 PM (G2zl5)

183 Now isn't the time eh?
OK...so when is the time, muthafu*ka???
McCarthy, you have no idea of the disdain and contempt you have developed among American conservatives. The pictures the Dems have of you and your fellow GOPers must be doozies.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 16, 2021 01:45 PM (axyOa)

Now is not the time. The Time was years ago, come and gone.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 16, 2021 01:46 PM (6FeV1)

184 I love MTG. She's on WarRoom a lot.

And what's happening to Bannon is bullshit.

Again, where is the republican leadership to shout this shit down?

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 16, 2021 01:46 PM (DcKNO)

185 >>>Gotta love GOP homos like Kevin and Miss Lindsey

I don't think McCarthy's gay. He was cheating on his wife with Renee Ellmers. Gay guys wouldn't to that far to establish cover. No one establishes a Double-Secret Beard.

Posted by: ace at November 16, 2021 01:46 PM (0G13K)

186 Do these fuckers live in a cave?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 16, 2021 01:46 PM (A71n2)

187 If you can assure me that your school isn't putting out CRT and your congressman isn't a lobbyist-beholden RINO and you voted for the Donald, I will concede you're probably voting hard enough.
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 16, 2021 01:33 PM (B0mGw)

My Congress critter is GoPe through and through. He also makes sure no one can primary him from the right.

He has lost my vote forever, and yeah, there may be a "worse" Dem elected...but I doubt it as GoPe critter will do whatever it takes to keep the spice flowing. Literally nothing I can do about that either, other than not vote for him.

Posted by: Bete at November 16, 2021 01:46 PM (F9322)

188 Trump had 95% approval of the Republican Party in 2020. McCarthy et al can ignore that at their peril. They, not we, are the RINOs.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 16, 2021 01:46 PM (kTF2Z)

189 The Junta is floating a story that Bug-Out Joe will order a diplomatic boycott of the upcoming Beijing Winter Olympics, due to human rights issues in China . I am not sure what a diplomatic Olympic boycotts is. Best I can figure out right now is that US athletes can go and compete, but DOCTOR Jill won't go to spectate. That'll show 'em we are really serious about this one!

Posted by: Gref at November 16, 2021 01:46 PM (AMIL/)

190 How we get back to a limited government, I don't know. But I don't know that voting will fix this.
Posted by: Just Lily at November 16, 2021 01:44 PM (vivhj)

I know a way.

Posted by: Cloud William at November 16, 2021 01:46 PM (4I/2K)

191 -
Meanwhile, Paul Mirengoff, the never-Trump squish at PowerLine, has the sadz that the Wyoming Republican Party has noticed that Liz Cheney is no longer a Republican.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 16, 2021 01:27 PM -
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The mere mention of Trump makes Mirengoff's colon itch, which he feels compelled to scratch with his ears.

Posted by: irright at November 16, 2021 01:47 PM (SchQD)

192 185 >>>Gotta love GOP homos like Kevin and Miss Lindsey

I don't think McCarthy's gay. He was cheating on his wife with Renee Ellmers. Gay guys wouldn't to that far to establish cover. No one establishes a Double-Secret Beard.
Posted by: ace at November 16, 2021 01:46 PM (0G13K)

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That's the genius of it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 16, 2021 01:47 PM (LvTSG)

193 Fuck these people.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw at November 16, 2021 01:47 PM (II3Gr)

194 If 2020 proved anything....
It proved that voting means dogsh.t. Counting means everything.

Posted by: Hold My Montrachet at November 16, 2021 01:47 PM (juH8z)

195 Free your mind, Quaid.
-creepy chest puppet

Free your mind, and your ass will follow - En Vogue.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 16, 2021 01:47 PM (ZGrMX)

196 Meet Jump Kick Guy.

https://tinyurl.com/4xsyykrw

Posted by: JackStraw at November 16, 2021 01:47 PM (ZLI7S)

197 A $1 million per state grant to encourage children to walk to school.

It's all fun and games until some geriatric 'tard jumps out of the bushes and starts sniffing their hair and tweaking the girls budding nips.
Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus, Vaccine and Massage Parlor at November 16, 2021 01:34 PM (dQvv7)

only a risk in DC and Delaware...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at November 16, 2021 01:47 PM (8D42x)

198 In America, as opposed to one-party, totalitarian nations, "reading people out" of a movement or a party is characteristic of cults and tiny sectarian groups.
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Any organization that caters to its most marginal members will, in turn, become marginal.

And it is a marginal faction of the Republican Party that continues its holy war against Trump, far more fanatic in their efforts to "read him out" than even the most strident counterpart.

Fuck Paul, find a new party, with its HQ in NYC, that's more your style--75 million people voted for Trump, not your preferred "inclusive of all" suicide pact.

Posted by: Lrrr at November 16, 2021 01:48 PM (jIL4c)

199 At this point, the only real reason to vote for the GOP is simply to say a dem lost a race.

That's it.

That's silly. I'm sure Youngkin will disappoint me at times, but I'd still prefer him over McAuliffe any day. Don't let the mediocre be the enemy of the truly awful, or something.

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2021 01:48 PM (ZsR3z)

200 >>>Free your mind, and your ass will follow - En Vogue.

i think that's George Clinton.

Doesn't En Vogue say, "Free your mind and *the rest* will follow"?

Posted by: ace at November 16, 2021 01:48 PM (0G13K)

201 I have now passed a milestone. The final piece of major known maintenance on my house is complete, and I am done with everything that gets lumped in with "immediate home purchase items." From this point forward, it's all routine maintenance and dealing with failures. The last of the shit I knew about is now handled.

And my final total for everything to do with this place (moving, furniture, improvements, repairs, etc.) came in over budget, but by less than a grand. I did it. I'm pleased.

Now I get to do what every other homeowner does and wait for the other shoe to drop.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2021 01:48 PM (DU+/6)

202 He was cheating on his wife with Renee Ellmers.

Yikes... His wife must be a real beaut then

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2021 01:48 PM (87qwM)

203 Yup.. I'm in Commiefornia and even with all this I vote... Of course my vote never counts but I do it anyway...I am not a registered Republican but an an Independent ...

it's me Donna, I just had this convo with a friend up here in blue wailing NoVA.
Our county is one of the three that usually outvotes the rest of the state and made it purple, then blue.
This time, McAuliffe didn't get the percentages he needed here to overcome how strongly the red counties turned out, and it made a difference, both the strong turnout downstate, and the crossovers up here, PLUS the usuals who think their vote doesn't matter since we're in a blue county, so they make a renunciatory "statement" throwaway vote on any candidate less-than-perfect.
We didn't do the circular firing squad this time, and the usual OneTrueConservativeTMs (with often a strong whiff of Nevertrump) didn't bloviate loud and long about how they simply couldn't vote for either candidate, and it didn't matter anyway because blueblueblue.
This time it did.
I think we owe it to the rest of the state to vote, and it worked, this time in VA.
not to mention it is our duty as citizens

Posted by: barbarausa at November 16, 2021 01:48 PM (O+xKB)

204 >It occurred to me how similar the situation was to how Trump was treated by the establishment in D.C.

Posted by: Archer at November 16, 2021 01:45 PM (gmo/4)

Didn't they even stage the Julius Caesar play in NYC with a Trump-lookalike? Not very subtle.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 16, 2021 01:48 PM (cSs/W)

205 McCarthy is just the standard political class midwit whose entire life has been focused on getting elected to public office. He has no identity outside of it.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 16, 2021 01:48 PM (wmDcS)

206 I don't think McCarthy's gay. He was cheating on his wife with Renee Ellmers. Gay guys wouldn't to that far to establish cover. No one establishes a Double-Secret Beard.
Posted by: ace at November 16, 2021 01:46 PM (0G13K)

To paraquote Dirty Harry: If they were worth a damn, I wouldn't care if the whole damn dept was queer.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 16, 2021 01:48 PM (csEWM)

207 Yeah, it's why I and many others will not vote UNLESS McCarthy and McConnell step aside, and even then it is no given.

The GOP will have done absolutely not one damned thing to have done it but will pick up the House because how could they have not. Maybe even the Senate, even though that is just as undeserved, probably even more so.

Remember, any money given to the NRCC and NRSC gets funneled to maggots like Katko and Murkowski. Any vote given the GOP enables McCarthy and McConnell.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 16, 2021 01:48 PM (nMx88)

208 This green-eyed redhead would like Kevin McCarthy to explain when it *will* be the right time to go after in-party traitors:
https://is.gd/fQsUM5

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2021 01:49 PM (DU+/6)

209 i should say, he was WIDELY RUMORED to be having such an affair. I don't know if he was, I don't know him, I don't move in his circles.

Posted by: ace at November 16, 2021 01:49 PM (0G13K)

210 Saw an update at Legal Insurrection that the Rittenhouse jury has asked for 11 copies of pages 1-6 of the juror instructions. Supposedly these pages all deal with Self Defense.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 16, 2021 01:49 PM (N39Ws)

211 When are they, when will they, why won't they, if they'd only.........all questions that will be asked here at AoS by commenters for eternity about the Republican Party.

.....oh, and we just gotta....
Can't forget the same suggestions for the last four decades too!

Posted by: JROD at November 16, 2021 01:49 PM (0jZnq)

212 Doesn't En Vogue say, "Free your mind and *the rest* will follow"?

Yes, and everyone I know heard it as "your ass will follow".

Posted by: Ian S. at November 16, 2021 01:49 PM (ZGrMX)

213 I don't think McCarthy's gay. He was cheating on his wife with Renee Ellmers. Gay guys wouldn't to that far to establish cover. No one establishes a Double-Secret Beard.
Posted by: ace at November 16, 2021 01:46 PM (0G13K)

The dreaded yet legendary mock merkin . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 16, 2021 01:49 PM (s2VJv)

214 I don't think McCarthy's gay. He was cheating on his wife with Renee Ellmers. Gay guys wouldn't to that far to establish cover. No one establishes a Double-Secret Beard.
Posted by: ace at November 16, 2021 01:46 PM (0G13K)
++++
Which is why the diabolical plan is so brilliant!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2021 01:49 PM (DU+/6)

215 They're not dimocrap scum.

Other than the letter by their name what is the difference?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 16, 2021 01:50 PM (KZzsI)

216 I don't know if he was, I don't know him, I don't move in his circles.
Posted by: ace at November 16, 2021 01:49 PM (0G13K)

Yeah, you'd have to hang out at Frank Luntz's gay salon for that.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 16, 2021 01:50 PM (guGkK)

217 209 i should say, he was WIDELY RUMORED to be having such an affair. I don't know if he was, I don't know him, I don't move in his circles.
Posted by: ace at November 16, 2021 01:49 PM (0G13K)

He did not mention it at the Shelving and Ewok convention?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 16, 2021 01:50 PM (csEWM)

218 Sometimes I like Chip Roy and sometimes I don't
Here's a trip down memory lane-
"Donald Trump denounces Chip Roy's bid for U.S. House Republican leadership post: "He has not done a great job"

Roy was among a small handful of Texas Republicans who voted against overturning the election in January."

Posted by: redridinghood at November 16, 2021 01:50 PM (NpAcC)

219 You would think McCarthy would represent the oil and farming of his district. Obviously, he doesn't.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 16, 2021 01:43 PM (IUFR3)

If I recall, McCarthy raised $60 million (!!) for House Republicans so far this year. That's not coming from farmers, even IA ones.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 16, 2021 01:50 PM (Wo4FI)

220 But the GOP will do nothing about this, because it's not a conservative party.

I've been saying this for some time, but we are the RINOs.

The Republican Party is what it is. To call a Republican that votes the way the Republican Party always votes a "Republican in Name Only" because we are wishcasting that the really-really-super-real Republican is a limited-government, Constitutional Conservative, is to ignore reality.

We are not Republicans, we just vote for them for lack of another option. We are RIVOs, to be exact.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 16, 2021 01:50 PM (fSbsl)

221
Maybe McCarthy and Ellmers were just playing Scrabble. Or Chutes and Ladders . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 16, 2021 01:50 PM (s2VJv)

222 I would be willing to try Duncan Donuts. As good as Dunkin Donuts?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 16, 2021 01:45 PM (csEWM)

Even better! Look... me and the McDonald's people got this little misunderstanding. See, they're McDonald's... I'm McDowell's. They got the Golden Arches, mine is the Golden Arcs. They got the Big Mac, I got the Big Mick. We both got two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles and onions, but their buns have sesame seeds. My buns have no seeds.

Posted by: McDowell's - Home of the Big Mick at November 16, 2021 01:51 PM (4I/2K)

223 Infrastructure bill Includes breathalyzers required on all new cars in 2025.

Kevin McCarthy is the dumbest of the dumb.

Posted by: Dr Evil, formerly Loki, looking to water the Tree of Liberty with my F-15 and nukes at November 16, 2021 01:51 PM (ZW1rs)

224 On top of that...
The morality of this country is sh.t.
The VP is a coxksucker and God knows how many politicians have been caught cheating on the one person that should be able to trust them....and they're the "leaders."

Posted by: Hold My Montrachet at November 16, 2021 01:51 PM (juH8z)

225 Duck Donuts FTW!!

Posted by: Jmel at November 16, 2021 01:51 PM (RWHIh)

226 210 Saw an update at Legal Insurrection that the Rittenhouse jury has asked for 11 copies of pages 1-6 of the juror instructions. Supposedly these pages all deal with Self Defense.

Doesn't sound good.. This should be an open and shut case for self defense

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2021 01:52 PM (87qwM)

227 Wait a minute, I didn't know who she was so I looked up Renee Ellmers. Ummm, errrrr, McCarthy cheated with her???

He's dumber than I thought. And I think he's pretty fricken dumb.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 16, 2021 01:52 PM (DcKNO)

228
"Free your mind, and then spit don't swallow"

- - En Vogue Harris

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 16, 2021 01:52 PM (s2VJv)

229 You know, I am starting to wonder if Gary is late just because it is his 'thing'.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 16, 2021 01:52 PM (csEWM)

230 I'm confused-what conservative thing do the 13 traitors believe in if they can't vote against an obscene spending bill?

Posted by: Northernlurker at November 16, 2021 01:53 PM (cSyAR)

231 You missed how this bill was funded. It used COVID funds, funds destined for UI, stole from Medicare and also will use tax hikes on the energy industry- during this time of monumental energy price increases. Senator Kennedy of Louisiana actually stated the bill would raise taxes on their energy industry significantly more then the amount of money the state receives for "infrastructure".

McCarthy has to go. He's not a leader. He's Frank Luntz's pool boy in drag.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 16, 2021 01:53 PM (wtmsr)

232 If car is self driving why can't I be hammered.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 16, 2021 01:53 PM (arc6y)

233 This green-eyed redhead would like Kevin McCarthy to explain when it *will* be the right time to go after in-party traitors:
https://is.gd/fQsUM5
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2021 01:49 PM (DU+/6)

WARNING!!!
Put duct tape over the USB port for this one...soul stealing is immediate.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 16, 2021 01:53 PM (axyOa)

234 Again, where is the republican leadership to shout this shit down?

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 16, 2021 01:46 PM (DcKNO)

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Only squishes in leadership. Just a handful in both chambers willing to fight with no leadership giving them support.

The GOP once wandered in the minority desert for 40 years. Perhaps they need to return there for another 40 before they understand that we are not interested in Boehner/Ryan redux.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at November 16, 2021 01:53 PM (TNyrE)

235 226 210 Saw an update at Legal Insurrection that the Rittenhouse jury has asked for 11 copies of pages 1-6 of the juror instructions. Supposedly these pages all deal with Self Defense.

Doesn't sound good.. This should be an open and shut case for self defense
Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2021 01:52 PM (87qwM)

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FUDGE. That's horrible. It's as self-defense as it gets. We're effed if this doesn't come back as aquittal.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 16, 2021 01:53 PM (DcKNO)

236 Is he still buttfucking Luntz?

Posted by: wth at November 16, 2021 01:53 PM (v0R5T)

237 Conservatives don't like government and we don't like politicians. Not even our own.

If we want to avoid Civil War (trust me, you do) we have to change that.

We have to become more involved in primaries, etc. We can not longer accpet a binary choice in the general. We have to get involved in primaries and be strong about our beiefs and who we want. The days of letting the fat, old, on-the-take, greedy, panty-sniffing men do the selecting for us should end. Soon.

It's on you.

Posted by: Uncle Rick at November 16, 2021 01:53 PM (48/MM)

238 223 Infrastructure bill Includes breathalyzers required on all new cars in 2025.
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This will keep used car prices up. No one wants to drive their lawn mower to the bar.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 16, 2021 01:53 PM (uia9V)

239 So who makes breathalyzers? Is congress heavily invested in these companies? You betcha

Posted by: ... at November 16, 2021 01:53 PM (aoWKr)

240 The Republicans who voted for both infrastructure and also for impeachment....at least get those people. No committees. Nothing. Screw 'em.

If the GOPe hopes to get votes next year, they have to stand for something.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 16, 2021 01:54 PM (A0cwl)

241 226 210 Saw an update at Legal Insurrection that the Rittenhouse jury has asked for 11 copies of pages 1-6 of the juror instructions. Supposedly these pages all deal with Self Defense.

Doesn't sound good.. This should be an open and shut case for self defense
Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2021 01:52 PM (87qwM)

Yeah this makes no sense. The legal details are nowhere near as important as the clear fact of the matter that he was being set upon and was forced to use deadly force.

Feh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 16, 2021 01:54 PM (s2VJv)

242
The Republican Party is a crutch for the Democrats. They have been for a long time, but they no longer bother hiding it. It's just in-your-face, and has been since 2015. And they're an *important* crutch.

They keep the illusion of representative rule intact. They provide a scapegoat when needed. They always help to advance the agenda through their total inaction when in "power." And most importantly, they provide an insurmountable obstacle to the formation of an American political party. A party that would undoubtedly attract *many* of the Democrats' own voters, who would never consider voting for one of these sack-of-shit GOP clowns.

As small little peons, there is very little we can do to strike back at the Democrat power machine. But there is the *one* thing... we can kick that crutch out from under them. Just a matter of turning your back and walking away. And it's the first and absolutely necessary step toward change. Nothing else can proceed until the GOP is eliminated.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 16, 2021 01:54 PM (/KPLX)

243 Fuck the GOP.

Posted by: Winston Smith at November 16, 2021 01:54 PM (cGQ7a)

244 Remember, any money given to the NRCC and NRSC gets funneled to maggots like Katko and Murkowski. Any vote given the GOP enables McCarthy and McConnell.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 16, 2021 01:48 PM (nMx8

I don't recall if it was here or another site (Gasp!) but the NRCC & NRSC are run by congressmen and senators and not the party. They are fund raising arms by incumbents for incumbents, and not for anything else.

Posted by: Beartooth at November 16, 2021 01:55 PM (KTaZ8)

245 OK National Guard says they will not mandate the vaccine for their troops

Sec Austin says I pay your troops when they do their monthly drills, you will do as I say! Respect my authorit-aye!

OK National Guard says ???

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 16, 2021 01:55 PM (FUyxy)

246 >>>Saw an update at Legal Insurrection that the Rittenhouse jury has asked for 11 copies of pages 1-6 of the juror instructions. Supposedly these pages all deal with Self Defense.

the whole case is self defense. I can see this being them just going through each point as they take a preliminary vote.

Or as they attempt to argue with Karen Holdouts, of course.

Posted by: ace at November 16, 2021 01:55 PM (0G13K)

247 199 At this point, the only real reason to vote for the GOP is simply to say a dem lost a race.

That's it.

That's silly. I'm sure Youngkin will disappoint me at times, but I'd still prefer him over McAuliffe any day. Don't let the mediocre be the enemy of the truly awful, or something.
Posted by: pep at November 16, 2021 01:48 PM (ZsR3z)

It depends. You need to pick your spots. You keep Sen. Collins, because Maine (that said, however, what about someone giving her a good primary challenge now and again, to keep her honest). You don't want a milquetoast as leader, however. If Pelosi is on the other side, you don't want an equivocator on ours. Youngkin beats the alternative, even though he's opened a pipeline to the Heritage/Pence crowd already. It just depends.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 16, 2021 01:55 PM (Wo4FI)

248 Brat defeated Cantor, and immediately dropped his Tea Party cred to become GOPe. I think it was BIG PHARMA money that turned him. Anyway, Brat was defeated in the 2018 cycle by Spannberger, who was one of several "ex"-CIA chicks that were funded by millions of dark money dollars to win deep Red seats.

In 2020, she was defeated by a few hundred votes by Nick Freitas (this is "real" Virginia not Northern Virginia), a Republican with LOTS of statewide name recognition for his 2A stand (people may recall that was a thing in 2019) and a former US Army Special Forces soldier.

Well, defeated until they "found" a USB stick with 83000 votes on it. Every single vote on the stick was for Spannberger. Every. One.

The county elections supervisor "took responsibility." He said it was his fault, he had relabeled a USB stick because he wanted the save the taxpayers money. See, a 4 GB stick cost $135, so he reused it (yes you may pricecheck that, thank you). And then, you know, forgot about it. Until after Spannberger lost.

Posted by: blaster at November 16, 2021 01:55 PM (9VeU0)

249 Infrastructure bill Includes breathalyzers required on all new cars in 2025.
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This will keep used car prices up. No one wants to drive their lawn mower to the bar.
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 16, 2021 01:53 PM (uia9V)

Au contraire, bubba.
https://youtu.be/aGfgIQfpbWI

Posted by: Vince Gill and George Jones at November 16, 2021 01:55 PM (4I/2K)

250 This green-eyed redhead would like Kevin McCarthy to explain when it *will* be the right time to go after in-party traitors:
https://is.gd/fQsUM5
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2021 01:49 PM (DU+/6)
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whoa.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 16, 2021 01:55 PM (A0cwl)

251 At this point, the only real reason to vote for the GOP is simply to say a dem lost a race.

That's it.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 16, 2021 01:44 PM

This guy gets it. If you don't vote you are giving your vote away to a democrat.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 16, 2021 01:55 PM (bVYXr)

252 Or as they attempt to argue with Karen Holdouts, of course.
Posted by: ace at November 16, 2021 01:55 PM (0G13K)

Probably right

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2021 01:56 PM (87qwM)

253 >>Yeah this makes no sense. The legal details are nowhere near as important as the clear fact of the matter that he was being set upon and was forced to use deadly force.

You should read this about Jump Kick Guy. If you didn't hate the prosecutors enough before this will do the trick.

https://tinyurl.com/4xsyykrw

Posted by: JackStraw at November 16, 2021 01:56 PM (ZLI7S)

254 Who is still giving money to ANY national republican entity?

Haven't we learned that you only give to individual candidates and as local as possible?

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 16, 2021 01:56 PM (DcKNO)

255 We need a majority, but it needs to be the right majority. There is a chance to pick up between 60-70 seats in the House. We should make sure those people vow to NOT vote for McCarthy.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 16, 2021 01:56 PM (wtmsr)

256 A $1 million per state grant to encourage children to walk to school.

That's the only one I don't mind: everyone should walk more.
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I'm with you here, Ace, but I don't think we need 50 million dollars to bribe kids to do it. We make bus service start a little farther away. No need to spend a dime, and actually it should save money in buses and gas and drivers.

I realize that's not the current American way to get things done.

Posted by: bluebell at November 16, 2021 01:56 PM (wyw4S)

257 What difference, at this point, does it make?

Posted by: Your basic semi-engaged voter at November 16, 2021 01:57 PM (dlRv7)

258 Tens of thousands of conservatives need to show up at his . house and take a dump on his sidewalk.

Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 16, 2021 01:57 PM (2xGy+)

259 250 This green-eyed redhead would like Kevin McCarthy to explain when it *will* be the right time to go after in-party traitors:
https://is.gd/fQsUM5
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2021 01:49 PM (DU+/6)
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whoa.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 16, 2021 01:55 PM (A0cwl)

Eyes are important (especially since this does not show boobs.) She has that lazy, laconic look. Also a bit too waifish for my taste.

Still a 1.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 16, 2021 01:57 PM (csEWM)

260 With very few exceptions the entire dogshit pseudo party should toss our salads.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at November 16, 2021 01:57 PM (y7DUB)

261 Radio news said the Dems hit the road today to spread out across the land and explain to the people what a wonderful bill was just passed. Do they really have to sell it after the fact?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 16, 2021 01:57 PM (63Dwl)

262 Since I love piling on Powerline's ultimate smug RINO D-Bag Paul Mirengoff, check out his rant today about how wrong it was for the WY GOP to vote in favor of not recognizing Lizard Cheney as a Republican.

Posted by: PacosMojo at November 16, 2021 01:57 PM (uW9MW)

263 At this point, the only real reason to vote for the GOP is simply to say a dem lost a race.

That's it.

That's silly. I'm sure Youngkin will disappoint me at times, but I'd still prefer him over McAuliffe any day. Don't let the mediocre be the enemy of the truly awful, or something.
Posted by: pep at November 16, 2021 01:48 PM (ZsR3z)

I'm not trying to be combative here but this is the attitude that allows people like McCarthy to thrive.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 16, 2021 01:57 PM (KbCG3)

264 Shaming me to try to eat the shit sammich that you eagerly gobble up doesn't work.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 16, 2021 01:57 PM (cSs/W)

265 I was reading McCarthy's plan for what the Republicans will do with a majority. It's like The Contract with America, only that was real and I just made this up. McCarthy doesn't have a plan.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 16, 2021 01:57 PM (wtmsr)

266 Well, defeated until they "found" a USB stick with 83000 votes on it. Every single vote on the stick was for Spannberger. Every. One.

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So no lawyer pointed out that is statistically impossible?

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 16, 2021 01:58 PM (DcKNO)

267 Chip Roy thought Trump should be impeached for trying to pressure Pence on the elector count, but voted against impeachment because he didn't like how the Dems wrote up the articles.

Posted by: Mark1971 at November 16, 2021 01:58 PM (xPl2J)

268 It depends. You need to pick your spots. You keep Sen. Collins, because Maine (that said, however, what about someone giving her a good primary challenge now and again, to keep her honest). You don't want a milquetoast as leader, however. If Pelosi is on the other side, you don't want an equivocator on ours. Youngkin beats the alternative, even though he's opened a pipeline to the Heritage/Pence crowd already. It just depends.

Agree entirely.

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2021 01:58 PM (ZsR3z)

269 I thought Manchin was doing Ellmer on his houseboat? Or was that some other female Republican?

Posted by: blaster at November 16, 2021 01:58 PM (9VeU0)

270 "BTW, Jump Kick Guy has been identified by a radio host. He's a career criminal with a lengthy record.

Good job, Kenosha cops.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 16, 2021 01:40 PM (ZLI7S)"

This is a big deal for anyone who wants to pretend we still have rule of law, because the prosecution knew who this dude was months ago - because he approached them wanting to trade testimony for immunity in another case - and they rejected him.

This prosecution has been a complete shitshow of illegality - charges they knew were invalid, hiding or refusing to collect evidence, hiding witnesses from the defense, etc.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at November 16, 2021 01:58 PM (0BW5E)

271 "...now isn't the time..."

Democrats could have a pistol barrel behind your ear while you're standing in front of an open trench and you'd still have some GOP motherfuker whispering in your other ear "now isn't the time".

Eat a wheelbarrow full of unwashed assholes, McCarthy.

Posted by: Azathoth at November 16, 2021 01:58 PM (Yy5Bc)

272 Saw an update at Legal Insurrection that the Rittenhouse jury has asked for 11 copies of pages 1-6 of the juror instructions. Supposedly these pages all deal with Self Defense.

Doesn't sound good.. This should be an open and shut case for self defense
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Id say that's a good sign.
The instructions state the law.
The prosecution spent the entire trial lying about what the law was.
Someone on the jury has pointed that out-- the lies.

Posted by: Lrrr at November 16, 2021 01:59 PM (jIL4c)

273 Once again, the GOP is out of touch with its voters.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 16, 2021 01:59 PM (wtmsr)

274 "Saw an update at Legal Insurrection that the Rittenhouse jury has asked for 11 copies of pages 1-6 of the juror instructions. "

Sounds like Juror 8 has a long day ahead of him.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 16, 2021 01:59 PM (B0mGw)

275 "Provides roughly $2.5 billion to help the U.S. government expand the border processing stations."

I'm all for this. A phalanx of turrets, walls, and razor wire along the border to "process" illegals attempting to gain entry. Or do we have to outsource our border protection to the Polish military? (They seem to have the right mindset about it.)

Posted by: red speck at November 16, 2021 01:59 PM (gS3OW)

276 I don't think that this is that big of a deal. If the 13 didn't vote for it, then the 6 Dems who didn't vote for it would have fallen in line and voted for it. If anyone wants to die on this hill, fine. Just make sure that you also go after the 18 or 19 GOP senators who voted for it as well. No sense in just piling on the House members.

Posted by: joefl65 at November 16, 2021 02:00 PM (FcrV3)

277 Stupid is as stupid does.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 16, 2021 02:00 PM (W2Pud)

278 199 At this point, the only real reason to vote for the GOP is simply to say a dem lost a race.

That's it.

That's silly. I'm sure Youngkin will disappoint me at times, but I'd still prefer him over McAuliffe any day. Don't let the mediocre be the enemy of the truly awful, or something.
Posted by: pep at November 16, 2021 01:48 PM (ZsR3z)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

By this logic, I should still vote for John Katko, RINO king.

No. One thousand times no. I will not, under any circumstance, vote for that piece of shit again. AND I will actively vote for the Democrat if he manages to get the RINO nomination. At least I'd know what to expect from whatever Democrat POS runs, rather than getting stabbed in the back on the regular by Katko.

Posted by: deadrody at November 16, 2021 02:00 PM (/jrmI)

279
Shaming me to try to eat the shit sammich that you eagerly gobble up doesn't work.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 16, 2021 01:57 PM (cSs/W)

Yeah, not going to work. People are stuck in their ways. Not my problem anymore. If voting for the GOP is an act of faith for you, fine, but I left that cult and I'm not coming back.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 16, 2021 02:00 PM (/KPLX)

280 Since I love piling on Powerline's ultimate smug RINO D-Bag Paul Mirengoff, check out his rant today about how wrong it was for the WY GOP to vote in favor of not recognizing Lizard Cheney as a Republican.
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He's a buffoon, so, no. Hard pass.

Plus, he's wrong (whatever he said).

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 16, 2021 02:00 PM (A0cwl)

281
F.U.C.
THE
G.O.P.

Posted by: Eat The Eloi at November 16, 2021 02:01 PM (BvNzB)

282 256 A $1 million per state grant to encourage children to walk to school.

That's the only one I don't mind: everyone should walk more.
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Why do they need a million dollars to encourage walking to school?

Can't that be done by principals, school boards, etc?

People have come to think 50 million dollars is nothing.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 16, 2021 02:01 PM (DcKNO)

283 I want in on the tree money.

Here's the thing: I am an actual conservationist. That forests are expanding, not contracting, is a fantastic thing. I am all for efforts to bring green spaces, even if just a tree in a sidewalk, back into urban areas for both aesthetic and practical reasons. The most carbon capturing thingy available is a tree, after all. BUT TREE EQUITY IS JUST STUPID OMG ARRRRGGGHHH.

*waves to the Horde* 'sup?

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at November 16, 2021 02:01 PM (mf5HN)

284 "I'm all for this. A phalanx of turrets, walls, and razor wire along the border to "process" illegals attempting to gain entry. "

Do you realize how easy it would be with modern technology to get cheap 24 hour error proof monitoring and control of the border?

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 16, 2021 02:01 PM (B0mGw)

285 Then let's hope the OK National Guard says, "Alright, WE'LL pay our own troops. And, uh, forget mobilizing them for any of your pointless wars. How 'gout that, Lloyd?"

Posted by: Erik in Texas at November 16, 2021 02:01 PM (180Hg)

286 I don't think that this is that big of a deal. If the 13 didn't vote for it, then the 6 Dems who didn't vote for it would have fallen in line and voted for it. If anyone wants to die on this hill, fine. Just make sure that you also go after the 18 or 19 GOP senators who voted for it as well. No sense in just piling on the House members.
Posted by: joefl65 at November 16, 2021 02:00 PM (FcrV3)

Yeah, no biggie.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 16, 2021 02:01 PM (A71n2)

287 275 "Provides roughly $2.5 billion to help the U.S. government expand the border processing stations."

I'm all for this. A phalanx of turrets, walls, and razor wire along the border to "process" illegals attempting to gain entry. Or do we have to outsource our border protection to the Polish military? (They seem to have the right mindset about it.)
Posted by: red speck

You're forgetting land mines

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 16, 2021 02:01 PM (W2Pud)

288 I'm not trying to be combative here but this is the attitude that allows people like McCarthy to thrive.

I don't see it as combative, but I think it's worth considering that if Trump holds the campaign money, the RINOs have to come to him, hat in hand, and kiss the ring. And he listens to us.

Regardless, you go with the most conservative person who can win. I detest Collins, but Maine isn't going to elect Ted Cruz.

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2021 02:01 PM (ZsR3z)

289 I was reading McCarthy's plan for what the Republicans will do with a majority. It's like The Contract with America, only that was real and I just made this up. McCarthy doesn't have a plan.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 16, 2021 01:57 PM (wtmsr)

And this is how stupid McCarthy is. Another Contract with America like list would point out every rotten thing the dems are doing and make local races national because even dems are pissed off at what is happening.

Of course, if he tried a list it would be all dem-light things and even at that he wouldn't follow through with anything because how mean the press will be to him.

Posted by: Beartooth at November 16, 2021 02:02 PM (KTaZ8)

290
I don't think they're considered Kaiju. And the people fighting them aren't samurai. At least in the few clips I've seen. Never really looked like something I wanted to check out.
Posted by: Buzzion

Yeah, they're kaiju. Kaiju just means 'strange beast'. The titans in the title is 'kyojin,' = giant person.

No, the kids fighting the giants are like a city army.

The anime is ok, but it's very much if the genre; tedious and overwrought a lot of the time. Again, kids fighting hideous beasts - neither Shakespeare or Kubrick.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 16, 2021 02:02 PM (1t5dY)

291 Sounds like Juror 8 has a long day ahead of him.
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 16, 2021 01:59 PM (B0mGw)

If juror 8 is inclined to convict, then perhaps he needs a beating, eh?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 16, 2021 02:02 PM (ufFY8)

292 BTW I was right about stopping paying any attention to the "chaos at Lucasfilm! Kennedy out of power!" YouTubers like overlorddvd who kept pushing this narrative. She just got a three year extension on her contract.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 16, 2021 02:02 PM (SPUjx)

293 Results matter, GOP.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 16, 2021 02:02 PM (u82oZ)

294 As pointless as it is in my State I continue to vote... Many people died to give us that privilege .

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2021 02:02 PM (87qwM)

295 A $1 million per state grant to encourage children to walk to school.

That's the only one I don't mind: everyone should walk more.

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I get very angry when I see morbidly obese children (which IMHO, unless it's owing to a medical or hormonal issue, is prima facie evidence of child abuse -- same with masks and COVID "vaccinations"), and in EVERY case at least one parent and usually both are also morbidly obese.

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! at November 16, 2021 02:02 PM (SAckK)

296 I get that people don't like McConnell for plenty of valid reasons, but he's not McCarthy and not really a problem/roadblock for conservative governance.

For example, McConnell let the BIF get through the Senate with 16 GOP votes on the theory that letting Manchin (and Sinema) have BIF, they'd then be less enamored with the reconciliation bill (BBB). It's a gamble, but it was a calculated one that's sort of worked so far. McCarthy had/has no plan at all and most of those 13 reps probably never even got a call from him about their BIF vote (before or after).

Posted by: Match Checksout at November 16, 2021 02:02 PM (dYe5S)

297 "Provides roughly $2.5 billion to help the U.S. government expand the border processing stations."

I'm all for this. A phalanx of turrets, walls, and razor wire along the border to "process" illegals attempting to gain entry. Or do we have to outsource our border protection to the Polish military? (They seem to have the right mindset about it.)

Posted by: red speck at November 16, 2021 01:59 PM

Imagine the border security we could have had if biden had brought back all of the stuff he left in Afghanistan. It would have been epic!

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 16, 2021 02:02 PM (bVYXr)

298 "I don't think that this is that big of a deal. If the 13 didn't vote for it, then the 6 Dems who didn't vote for it would have fallen in line and voted for it. If anyone wants to die on this hill, fine."

I agree with this. The whole thing has the stink of backdoor deals. I think this was the concession required to tank BBB.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 16, 2021 02:02 PM (B0mGw)

299 So no lawyer pointed out that is statistically impossible?
Posted by: Seems Legit at November 16, 2021 01:58 PM (DcKNO)

How could it be impossible? It happened!

There was a guy running for the Senate against Warner. A West Point graduate who lost a leg in Iraq. I talked to him, told him to go hard on Warner, because Warner would go hard on him. He is a poli.sci. professor at a college here, and he wanted a clean election. Warner dumped on him. He got soundly defeated, and while Freitas was protesting the USB stick (and there were a couple of other races in VA with weird anomalies) he, as the "senior" candidate in the party told everyone to stand down on the cheating thing.

Posted by: blaster at November 16, 2021 02:02 PM (9VeU0)

300 the problem would be obtaining Gatling gun. The other problem would be finding a use for it.

sure there is modern stuff like mini guns. I was mostly just joking around.But in then end, the use would be the big deal in my opinion. the funny thing about Gatling guns is they never made a serious difference on any battlefield and they never affected the outcome of any war whatsoever. They are cool though, no question there.

They were so fearsome that nobody wanted to face them, that is why there was a long period of peace after the civil war. There were experiments in the 1890's of motorizing them, they actually had one that would fire 3000 rounds per minute, like a modern minigun. Eventually they went with machine guns, it wasn't until Vietnam that Gatling guns appeared in combat.

There is a commercial cranked Gatling gun available for $5,000 msrp.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 16, 2021 02:03 PM (tX+yS)

301 >>This is a big deal for anyone who wants to pretend we still have rule of law, because the prosecution knew who this dude was months ago - because he approached them wanting to trade testimony for immunity in another case - and they rejected him.

Yep.

The prosecution was completely corrupt from the start.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 16, 2021 02:03 PM (ZLI7S)

302 "That's silly. I'm sure Youngkin will disappoint me at times, but I'd still prefer him over McAuliffe any day. Don't let the mediocre be the enemy of the truly awful, or something.
Posted by: pep at November 16, 2021 01:48 PM (ZsR3z)

I'm not trying to be combative here but this is the attitude that allows people like McCarthy to thrive.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 16, 2021 01:57 PM (KbCG3)"

Agreed. And what good is Youngkin being better than McAuliffe if the GOP still does nothing but jerk off and fundraise on whining about Dems and we STILL end up where the left wants to take us anyways?

If it's going to be like that, it's better to vote straight moonbat and use their own inability to exercise restraint against them, foiling attempts to boil the frog.

30+ years of Shit Sandwich "but the GOP is better" crap has been eviscerated after 1 year of Trump campaigning, 4 years of Trump in office, and 1 year of Biden insanity. People need to just fucking stop it; IT DOES NOT WORK.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at November 16, 2021 02:03 PM (0BW5E)

303 274 "Saw an update at Legal Insurrection that the Rittenhouse jury has asked for 11 copies of pages 1-6 of the juror instructions. "

**

They'd probably still remember them if their brains weren't burned out by discount Ray Harryhausen on the prosecution team detailing three minutes of footage at every 1/1000th a second.

Posted by: Azathoth at November 16, 2021 02:03 PM (Yy5Bc)

304 If Jump Kick Guy is actually black then Kyle's guardian angel was looking out for him when he missed shooting that dude but hit ever single other person he shot at.

There is no way at all Kyle would have a chance in H.E. double toothpicks if he'd harmed a POC whether it was self defense or not.

Posted by: Just Lily at November 16, 2021 02:03 PM (vivhj)

305 $2.5B is for illegal welcome centers

Posted by: Skip's Phone at November 16, 2021 02:03 PM (Hjfcs)

306 *waves to alexthechick *

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 16, 2021 02:03 PM (W2Pud)

307 >Well, defeated until they "found" a USB stick with 83000 votes on it. Every single vote on the stick was for Spannberger. Every. One.

Posted by: blaster at November 16, 2021 01:55 PM (9VeU0)

Kim Jong-Un blushes when he hears that.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 16, 2021 02:03 PM (cSs/W)

308 A $1 million per state grant to encourage children to walk to school.

That's the only one I don't mind: everyone should walk more.

Why do they need a million dollars to encourage walking to school?
Can't that be done by principals, school boards, etc?
People have come to think 50 million dollars is nothing.
Posted by: Seems Legit

STRANGER DANGER! STRANGER DANGER!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 16, 2021 02:03 PM (da4kl)

309 the whole case is self defense. I can see this being them just going through each point as they take a preliminary vote.

Or as they attempt to argue with Karen Holdouts, of course.
Posted by: ace at November 16, 2021 01:55 PM (0G13K)

Predicting these things always is dicey, but it's the latter. I read this as a good thing because it signals some have said upfront it is self defense and will not budge from acquittal and are trying to keep the Squeaking Karens from hanging the jury. The only way to deal with Squeaking Karens is to read the instructions to them and call them fucking idiots and socially shame them. I would like to know about the men who are jurors because it is one or more of them that has announced it is self defense and they will not convict.

Of course, it could be the opposite, but think what is speculated above to be correct.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 16, 2021 02:03 PM (nMx88)

310 Rittenhouse juror's ask for definition of self defense 45 minutes into deliberations. I "THINK" ( but what do I know) a good sign

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 16, 2021 02:03 PM (oT9Vv)

311 No 265. Exactly. No plan to close the border, tame inflation by cutting the living shit out of spending, school choice, fighting censorship and cancel culture, push back against the Chinese, etc. What we will get is some BS tax break for their buddies.

Posted by: Winston at November 16, 2021 02:04 PM (OCjO7)

312

Youngkin is right because he F's up every Dem idea and every fake claim they said that VA is there's from here on out. Youngkin works because he has sent dems and media types into a rage.

I agree with Ace of course about Mccarthy. These repubs should keep getting replaced until someone finally decides we are not kidding. Cantor went down because we were sick of him. We can do the same thing to the next guy who will not fight.

Posted by: Quint at November 16, 2021 02:04 PM (NXntH)

313 The GOP isn't completely useless. Ted Cruz has some Severely Conservative statements memorized that he might repeat on the MSM Sunday shows, so long as it doesn't rock the boat too much.

Posted by: Tums Festival at November 16, 2021 02:04 PM (NsI03)

314 Most anime looks to me like the cartoonist was having a seizure.

Posted by: irright at November 16, 2021 02:04 PM (SchQD)

315 As pointless as it is in my State I continue to vote... Many people died to give us that privilege .

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2021 02:02 PM

Yep, for the 15 years we lived in Connecticut we voted in every single election even though we knew or vote would not matter.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 16, 2021 02:04 PM (bVYXr)

316 Google continues to prove the justified faith so many have in cloud computing.

https://tinyurl.com/axde4jcj

Posted by: Methos at November 16, 2021 02:04 PM (kOpft)

317 One juror has gone honey badger.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 16, 2021 02:04 PM (arc6y)

318 "I get very angry when I see morbidly obese children and in EVERY case at least one parent and usually both are also morbidly obese."

I'm not trying to start an argument, but what is to get angry about? This is self correcting. The same arguments can and have been used to justify taking children away from their parents for wrong-think.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 16, 2021 02:04 PM (B0mGw)

319 87 275 "Provides roughly $2.5 billion to help the U.S. government expand the border processing stations."

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You did not read that correctly.

It means making it more efficient to process more migrants. Not stopping them.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 16, 2021 02:04 PM (DcKNO)

320 The House whip is Steve Scalise, whose job it is to keep the Rs in line on votes.

Apparently he uses dental floss as his whip. One strand only.

And McCarthy is a Paul Ryan clone. Oh well.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 16, 2021 02:04 PM (F0YaR)

321 House Republicans define success as their ability to influence appropriations. That is it. All of their identity is tied up in that one thing. They think those of us who care about Jan 6 political prisoners, about the Bill of Rights, or about ideological strength are nutcases.

McCarthy is all about appropriations strength. He simply does not comprehend (and never will understand) why anyone would deliberately reduce the caucus size by kicking out a member, like Cheney, or Upton or Kinzinger.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 16, 2021 02:04 PM (A0cwl)

322 Grand Theft Auto: Moron City

https://bit.ly/3Czeldf

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 16, 2021 02:05 PM (FVME7)

323 276 I don't think that this is that big of a deal. If the 13 didn't vote for it, then the 6 Dems who didn't vote for it would have fallen in line and voted for it. If anyone wants to die on this hill, fine. Just make sure that you also go after the 18 or 19 GOP senators who voted for it as well. No sense in just piling on the House members.
Posted by: joefl65 at November 16, 2021 02:00 PM (FcrV3)

If McCarthy and McConnell were real leaders, they would not have let it get to the point where any R's voted for it at any time. Like I said before, the time to oppose BIF is not the day before the vote, but the months before, when it went to the House. To the LIVs, all they saw was a 'bipartisan' bill that was A-OK - just the BBB that was a problem. Leadership didn't dispute that reading. Heck, McConnell said he was happy to vote for it. Some cover there, sport.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 16, 2021 02:05 PM (Wo4FI)

324 315 As pointless as it is in my State I continue to vote... Many people died to give us that privilege .

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2021 02:02 PM

Nobody died to give you a privilege to be ruled over.

Posted by: Hold My Montrachet at November 16, 2021 02:05 PM (juH8z)

325 They're not RINOs, they're DIRCs...Democrats In Republican Clothing.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 16, 2021 02:05 PM (3lBG5)

326 "296 I get that people don't like McConnell for plenty of valid reasons, but he's not McCarthy and not really a problem/roadblock for conservative governance.

Posted by: Match Checksout at November 16, 2021 02:02 PM (dYe5S)"

If turtle's reported statements on Jan 6th are legit, then that's a crock of shit and he's every bit of an obstacle as the nuttiest Dem senators.

Look, the GOP establishment is a bunch of shills, sellouts, and frauds. People need to just deal with it and move on.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at November 16, 2021 02:05 PM (0BW5E)

327 Nobody died to give you a privilege to be ruled over.
Posted by: Hold My Montrachet at November 16, 2021 02:05 PM (juH8z)

You have your opinion and I have mine...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2021 02:05 PM (87qwM)

328 One juror has gone honey badger.
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 16, 2021 02:04 PM (arc6y)

What does that mean?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 16, 2021 02:06 PM (oT9Vv)

329 Just make sure that you also go after the 18 or 19 GOP senators who voted for it as well. No sense in just piling on the House members.
Posted by: joefl65 at November 16, 2021 02:00 PM (FcrV3)

Your terms are acceptable.

Posted by: blaster at November 16, 2021 02:06 PM (9VeU0)

330 What.

Is.

The Point.

Of voting for this party.
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You're preaching to the wrong choir here Ace. The vast majority of commenters just can't wait to vote in that big Red Wave, wherein "we" take back the House, as if "we" have a party. In a way I get the idea because voting is the last thing we can do short of uh, other stuff, but these fucking guys show us who they are over and over and over and over yet we keep pulling the lever for these fucks. Who can blame them for holding us in such contempt?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 16, 2021 02:06 PM (MFphb)

331 288 I'm not trying to be combative here but this is the attitude that allows people like McCarthy to thrive.

I don't see it as combative, but I think it's worth considering that if Trump holds the campaign money, the RINOs have to come to him, hat in hand, and kiss the ring. And he listens to us.

Regardless, you go with the most conservative person who can win. I detest Collins, but Maine isn't going to elect Ted Cruz.
Posted by: pep at November 16, 2021 02:01 PM (ZsR3z)

If the RINOs were concerned at all about Trump, they would've never voted for this.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 16, 2021 02:06 PM (KbCG3)

332 Want to encourage kids to walk to school? Quit providing bussing! Simple and it will save money, not cost money.

Are kids still going to public school? Maybe the parents should also rethink that part of the equation.

Posted by: Bonnie Blue - the anti-DOTE at November 16, 2021 02:06 PM (hlxe7)

333 319 87 275 "Provides roughly $2.5 billion to help the U.S. government expand the border processing stations."

That's to help border agents hand out bus tickets and EBT cards more efficiently.

Posted by: brak at November 16, 2021 02:06 PM (KmwsH)

334 2.5 billion seems steep for the Holy Wood Chipper of Antioch.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 16, 2021 02:06 PM (arc6y)

335
BTW, Jump Kick Guy has been identified by a radio host. He's a career criminal with a lengthy record.

I'm trying to figure out why all these guys involved in the Kenosha riot with long rap sheets would want to burn down a courthouse with their records inside, but I'm drawing a blank.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus, Vaccine and Massage Parlor at November 16, 2021 02:06 PM (dQvv7)

336 Grand Theft Auto: Moron City

https://bit.ly/3Czeldf
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 16, 2021 02:05 PM (FVME7)
++++
Ah, Denver. Awesome.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2021 02:06 PM (DU+/6)

337 One juror has gone honey badger.
Posted by: Boss Moss

What does that mean?
Posted by: Nevergiveup

It's a badger. Made entirely from honey.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 16, 2021 02:06 PM (B0mGw)

338 Who is still giving money to ANY national republican entity?

Haven't we learned that you only give to individual candidates and as local as possible?

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 16, 2021 01:56 PM (DcKNO)

The only problem with that is when fake conservatives like Josh Mandel decide that getting a quickie divorce from his wife in a far away hush hush county is more important than continuing his campaign against Sherrod Brown, he can take his war chest and leave a replacement candidate up shit creek. And now he can't understand why the base isn't happy with him running to replace Rob Portman.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at November 16, 2021 02:06 PM (y7DUB)

339 *waves to nurse ratched*

Bee bringing the thunder: https://tinyurl.com/j3mp2rmy

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at November 16, 2021 02:06 PM (mf5HN)

340 Agreed. And what good is Youngkin being better than McAuliffe if the GOP still does nothing but jerk off and fundraise on whining about Dems and we STILL end up where the left wants to take us anyways?

So don't send them money. Send it to Trump's PAC. Do you really think they won't notice if Trump has buckets of cash, and they can't buy gum?

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2021 02:07 PM (ZsR3z)

341 Yeah this makes no sense. The legal details are nowhere near as important as the clear fact of the matter that he was being set upon and was forced to use deadly force.

Feh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 16, 2021 01:54 PM (s2VJv)

actually it makes perfect sense, since I (and many others) predicted yesterday that the Jury was going to have a lot of trouble with the instructions because they were a big, confusing mess. That's the Judge's fault - he asked the Prosecution and the Defense to draft instructions, and rather then picking one or the other he tried to meld them both together, ending up with a big incoherent mess.

He should have written his own - he would have been better off to skip them completely and just tell them "Hey, y'all go into that room and do your thing."

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2021 02:07 PM (trdmm)

342 You have your opinion and I have mine...
Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2021 02:05 PM (87qwM)

It's not an opinion. It's a fact. Not one war was fought to make you free.

Posted by: Hold My Montrachet at November 16, 2021 02:07 PM (juH8z)

343 A lot of Rs running have vowed to vote out McConnell and I think McCarthy. All hope is not lost but it sure as hell is frustrating.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One

You know, they say a LOT of things when they are running for office. They are NOT going to vote out McConnell and McCarthy. Those two (among several others) have a vise-like grip on passing out Party money, and favors, and committee assignments.

I feel so frustrated that there appears to be nothing substantial we can do NOW to change things.
We need a Third Party, and exit the Republicans, but I don't see some kind of groundswell and leadership to make that happen.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at November 16, 2021 02:07 PM (vcOmj)

344 Why do they need a million dollars to encourage walking to school?

Can't that be done by principals, school boards, etc?

People have come to think 50 million dollars is nothing.
Posted by: Seems Legit at November 16, 2021 02:01 PM (DcKNO)

It is seed money for future commie block watchers. Soon they'll have union street corner monitors to "watch out" for kids walking home and eventually they'll be monitors of who has unclean political signs and unapproved vehicles.

Posted by: Beartooth at November 16, 2021 02:07 PM (KTaZ8)

345 30+ years of Shit Sandwich "but the GOP is better" crap has been eviscerated after 1 year of Trump campaigning, 4 years of Trump in office, and 1 year of Biden insanity. People need to just fucking stop it; IT DOES NOT WORK.
Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at November 16, 2021 02:03 PM (0BW5E)

'Let It Burn' may not be an attractive strategy - especially in the short-run - but that doesn't mean that it's not a valid strategy.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 16, 2021 02:07 PM (Wo4FI)

346 I'm sure those millions of dollars will be well spent trying to convince parents to get their kids to walk to school by themselves considering how many areas of this country your child has to sit in a booster seat in the car until he's shaving.

Posted by: Azathoth at November 16, 2021 02:07 PM (Yy5Bc)

347 "So don't send them money. Send it to Trump's PAC. Do you really think they won't notice if Trump has buckets of cash, and they can't buy gum?"

That's sexy, right there.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 16, 2021 02:07 PM (B0mGw)

348 only someone not from Virginia could think Youngkin vs Terry is a tossup. There is real crap. You want one, the state ABC bans guns, even by those licensed by the state to carry. They ban legal carrying though they themselves issue the licenses. That was don by the governor, a leftist Dem and purported racist. He did that out of spite because he wanted to hurt people and found that loophole.

I could give twenty other examples but I don't want to.

Posted by: Quint at November 16, 2021 02:07 PM (NXntH)

349 "but that doesn't mean that it's not a valid strategy."

It's not.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 16, 2021 02:08 PM (B0mGw)

350 Mirengoff is a panty-waisted whiner.

Posted by: 496 at November 16, 2021 02:08 PM (U1eOr)

351 Chip Roy thought...

There's always a first time.

Fuck that guy with a pineapple.

Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 16, 2021 02:09 PM (2xGy+)

352 FRONT TOWARDS ENEMY

Always a good policy.

Posted by: Archer at November 16, 2021 02:09 PM (gmo/4)

353 313....

And the Ted will voluntarily sell out the Proud Boys just to "even things up". He's as much a sellout as the rest of them.

Posted by: PacosMojo at November 16, 2021 02:09 PM (uW9MW)

354 F*ck Grassley!

Posted by: Turn Two at November 16, 2021 02:09 PM (xpwjy)

355 So don't send them money. Send it to Trump's PAC. Do you really think they won't notice if Trump has buckets of cash, and they can't buy gum?
Posted by: pep at November 16, 2021 02:07 PM (ZsR3z)

Oh, they'll be able to buy more than gum. Trump gets his small donations from the base. McCarthy/Luntz get their big donations from corporations. Asa Hutchinson-type Republicans aren't looking for post-government jobs from Bubba, but from WalMart.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 16, 2021 02:10 PM (Wo4FI)

356 "Fuck that guy with a pineapple."

Which guy with a pineapple?

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 16, 2021 02:10 PM (B0mGw)

357 337 One juror has gone honey badger.
Posted by: Boss Moss

What does that mean?
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Honey Badger don't give a shit.

This is why it's very possible that there will be a hung jury - all it takes is for one juror, either way, to decide he or she (Karen) is pissed off at the rest of them and is gonna tank the whole thing.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2021 02:10 PM (trdmm)

358 These repubs should keep getting replaced until someone finally decides we are not kidding. Cantor went down because we were sick of him. We can do the same thing to the next guy who will not fight.

It's a good thing Lincoln didn't have the "ah well, they all suck, guess we'll give up" strategy when it came to generals.

If the RINOs were concerned at all about Trump, they would've never voted for this.

I'll grant you that they're slow learners, but when the choice is learn or go extinct, most of them will learn, and the others won't be mourned.

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2021 02:10 PM (ZsR3z)

359 People still read Mirengoff or other tools there?

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at November 16, 2021 02:10 PM (y7DUB)

360 Don't forget that back in 2010, Paul Ryan had put out some kind of Contract With America type thingy called Pledge to America. I used to have fun, for certain variants of fun, by linking it and asking those defending Ryan to name just what it was that he'd accomplished from his own published goals.

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at November 16, 2021 02:10 PM (mf5HN)

361 Want to encourage kids to walk to school? Quit providing bussing! Simple and it will save money, not cost money.

Are kids still going to public school? Maybe the parents should also rethink that part of the equation.

Posted by: Bonnie Blue - the anti-DOTE at November 16, 2021 02:06 PM

Once they make all schools go with electric buses, all of the kids are going to be walking to school anyway. Easy Peasy.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 16, 2021 02:11 PM (bVYXr)

362 Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at November 16, 2021 02:10 PM (mf5HN)

Well at least they threw his ass out

Posted by: It's me donna at November 16, 2021 02:11 PM (87qwM)

363 McCarthy is a donk, plain and simple. And China Mitch is on the foreign grift. No point voting for them, less point to donate.

Posted by: CN at November 16, 2021 02:11 PM (ONvIw)

364 30+ years of Shit Sandwich "but the GOP is better" crap has been eviscerated after 1 year of Trump campaigning, 4 years of Trump in office, and 1 year of Biden insanity. People need to just fucking stop it; IT DOES NOT WORK.
Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa

The "Lesser of Two Evils" political philosophy. The Democrats want to drive 110 mph into the progressive future. The Republicans want to keep it in the speed limit of 65 mph.
There are huge barriers to actually created a Third Party, but anything can be overcome. Leadership and money is needed.
Where do we start?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at November 16, 2021 02:11 PM (vcOmj)

365 McCarthy then got up and shot back that he's had to explain to voters many times votes that Roy has taken.

--

What a fantastical lie on McCarthy's part. I don't believe it for a second. My G*d, the Republican Party needs a Jupiter-sized Massengil douche to rid us of these traitorous, weakling simps.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 16, 2021 02:11 PM (sVtYq)

366 I need an audible version of AoSHQ. I have things to do and can't stay in front of the screen. If I had Audible Ace, I could wrap my Christmas gifts and still keep up.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 16, 2021 02:11 PM (45fpk)

367 I'll grant you that they're slow learners, but when the choice is learn or go extinct, most of them will learn, and the others won't be mourned.
Posted by: pep at November 16, 2021 02:10 PM (ZsR3z)

Just going to say, I disagree in the extreme but I appreciate your optimism. Here's to hoping you're very right and I'm very wrong.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 16, 2021 02:12 PM (KbCG3)

368 I watched an interview with Victor Davis Hanson re his new book "The Dying Citizen". I think that we have witnessed the bureaucratic elite at work for the past several decades. As witnessed most visibly during the past administration, what the bureaucracy wants they get. These people are the reason that voting probably doesn't really matter.

Eventually they will run out of paper and or ink in order to print money.

Smarter minds once said 'burn, scatter and salt'.

Posted by: UsedtoCould at November 16, 2021 02:12 PM (LRa30)

369 "So don't send them money. Send it to Trump's PAC. Do you really think they won't notice if Trump has buckets of cash, and they can't buy gum?"

I don't send money. Period.
I'm not sending my hard earned cash to someone who can grift more in one day than I make in a year. Sorry. Not happening. And I am a die hard Trump backer. But the dude has $3 BILLION dollars. He doesn't need my $25 bucks.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 16, 2021 02:12 PM (da4kl)

370 Seeing a whole bunch of new nics on here urging people to not vote because it won't make a difference.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 16, 2021 02:12 PM (bVYXr)

371 Blaster -- yeah, a 4 GB USB drive is under $5.

Posted by: FriscoYoda at November 16, 2021 02:12 PM (+56GQ)

372 F*ck Grassley!
Posted by: Turn Two at November 16, 2021 02:09 PM (xpwjy)

Hey! They guy is 88 and running for re-election, Why he is practically a spring chicken. And did you see the lovely cursive hand writing he has! Who cares if he was born before WW II, he can keep up with the best of them after his daily 6 hour nap.

Posted by: Beartooth at November 16, 2021 02:13 PM (KTaZ8)

373 -- That's the only one I don't mind: everyone should walk more.

Rooming (Roaming). This is the new extreme sport White Nationalists (like my Pro White Self) are doing. You drive to where your cell phone roams or should roam. Turn it off or leave it at home. Take dog if you have one. Start walking. Observe nature. Take notes. Wave to people and smile. Continue roaming. Catch a sunset. Look at stars Have a snack. Start a race war (ok I'm kidding about that one). Go until tired. Do it again next day or next free time. Encourage frens to Roam before Roaming with you in the future.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at November 16, 2021 02:13 PM (RdebE)

374 332 Want to encourage kids to walk to school? Quit providing bussing! Simple and it will save money, not cost money.

Are kids still going to public school? Maybe the parents should also rethink that part of the equation.

Posted by: Bonnie Blue - the anti-DOTE at November 16, 2021 02:06 PM (hlxe7)

The US would cut its carbon emissions in half simply by finding ways to keep millions of moms from idling for 45 minutes waiting to pick up a kid from school, five afternoons a week. Idling is required to keep the a/c or heat working non-stop.

Posted by: Gref at November 16, 2021 02:13 PM (AMIL/)

375 >>354 F*ck Grassley!

I say that every time my small engines gunk up with ethaslime.

Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 16, 2021 02:13 PM (2xGy+)

376 The assumption of power will be a rocky one for McCarthy but , thank God, he has Mitch to guide him thru the conservative roadblocks

Posted by: REDACTED at November 16, 2021 02:13 PM (us2H3)

377 Just going to say, I disagree in the extreme but I appreciate your optimism. Here's to hoping you're very right and I'm very wrong.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer

After Youngkin, I'm on a winning streak of one, so I hope I'm right too.

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2021 02:13 PM (ZsR3z)

378 It's not an opinion. It's a fact. Not one war was fought to make you free.

Posted by: Hold My Montrachet at November 16, 2021 02:07 PM

Then what was the Revolutionary War fought for? I understand it started over taxes and guns, but freedom from the Crown was a big part of it.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 16, 2021 02:14 PM (bVYXr)

379 ... there is very little we can do to strike back at the Democrat power machine. But there is the *one* thing... we can kick that crutch out from under them. Just a matter of turning your back and walking away. And it's the first and absolutely necessary step toward change. Nothing else can proceed until the GOP is eliminated.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 16, 2021 01:54 PM (/KPLX)

Totally understand frustration with the GOP. But I would change that last word from "eliminated" to "transformed." The right needs to do to the Republican Party what the left did to the Democrats -- take it over and wear it like a skin suit.

Trying to eliminate the only significant opposition party to the Democrats/Left is pure suicide. But they are in the process of transforming into a more conservative, more working-class party. Yes, the leadership continues to be dominated by Chamber of Commerce types. But they are gradually aging out and retiring, and new blood is slowly being added in their place. We need to accelerate this process. Start by not giving money to the GOP, but directly to the right candidates.

Posted by: Rusty Trawler at November 16, 2021 02:14 PM (1gif2)

380 I need an audible version of AoSHQ. I have things to do and can't stay in front of the screen. If I had Audible Ace, I could wrap my Christmas gifts and still keep up.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 16, 2021 02:11 PM (45fpk)

Someone set me up a Patreon and I'll be the Designated AoSHQ reader.

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at November 16, 2021 02:14 PM (mf5HN)

381 Rooming (Roaming). This is the new extreme sport White Nationalists (like my Pro White Self) are doing. You drive to where your cell phone roams or should roam. Turn it off or leave it at home. Take dog if you have one. Start walking. Observe nature. Take notes. Wave to people and smile. Continue roaming. Catch a sunset. Look at stars Have a snack. Start a race war (ok I'm kidding about that one). Go until tired. Do it again next day or next free time. Encourage frens to Roam before Roaming with you in the future.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at November 16, 2021 02:13 PM (RdebE)
++++
I like having my phone with me because then I can listen to music while roaming and earbuds are easy to remove when you see another reprobate in the area.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2021 02:14 PM (DU+/6)

382 377 Just going to say, I disagree in the extreme but I appreciate your optimism. Here's to hoping you're very right and I'm very wrong.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer

After Youngkin, I'm on a winning streak of one, so I hope I'm right too.
Posted by: pep at November 16, 2021 02:13 PM (ZsR3z)

Haha, he hasn't done anything yet. If he's 80% of what DeSantis is, I owe you a moderately priced beverage of your choosing.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 16, 2021 02:14 PM (KbCG3)

383 Great. Now drunk illegal aliens driving stolen cars will run down more children going to school on foot.

Just unbelievable...

Posted by: torabora at November 16, 2021 02:15 PM (Y274z)

384 Someone set me up a Patreon and I'll be the Designated AoSHQ reader.

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at November 16, 2021 02:14 PM (mf5HN)

That's kind. Thank you.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 16, 2021 02:15 PM (45fpk)

385 Someone set me up a Patreon and I'll be the Designated AoSHQ reader.
Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at November 16, 2021 02:14 PM (mf5HN)
++++
Would we get bonus snark?

"Comment 284. That idiot Mannix wrote:
...
What a maroon."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2021 02:15 PM (DU+/6)

386 That's kind. Thank you.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 16, 2021 02:15 PM (45fpk)

I'll even do different voices for different commenters.

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at November 16, 2021 02:15 PM (mf5HN)

387 I weep to think how different our lives would be right now if Trump only hadn't said pussy.

Posted by: 496 at November 16, 2021 02:15 PM (U1eOr)

388 "I don't send money. Period.
I'm not sending my hard earned cash to someone who can grift more in one day than I make in a year. Sorry. Not happening. And I am a die hard Trump backer. But the dude has $3 BILLION dollars. He doesn't need my $25 bucks."

Yeah! What he said! Tell it brother!

Posted by: The Democrat National Committee at November 16, 2021 02:16 PM (ifUkZ)

389 I weep to think how different our lives would be right now if Trump only hadn't said pussy.
Posted by: 496 at November 16, 2021 02:15 PM (U1eOr)
++++
The *only* difference is that one meme would be different.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2021 02:16 PM (DU+/6)

390 I'll even do different voices for different commenters.

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at November 16, 2021 02:15 PM (mf5HN)

Do Zod first.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 16, 2021 02:16 PM (45fpk)

391 It's a good thing Lincoln didn't have the "ah well, they all suck, guess we'll give up" strategy when it came to generals.
----

Lincoln had the advantage of being Commander In Chief, so he held their careers in his hand. He could move them as he saw fit. Big difference in power between that and a voter who gets ignored the day after the election.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 16, 2021 02:16 PM (MFphb)

392 Would we get bonus snark?

"Comment 284. That idiot Mannix wrote:
...
What a maroon."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2021 02:15 PM (DU+/6)

I am sure I can set up different tiers. Platinum with Chubacabra clusters gets you not only Audible Ace with different voices for different commenters but daily postings of the VT.

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at November 16, 2021 02:17 PM (mf5HN)

393 How come when the dims have the house, they have a speaker from a very blue state

and the GOP

Hastert, IL

Ryan, WI

McCarthy, CA

it's total BS

Posted by: REDACTED at November 16, 2021 02:17 PM (us2H3)

394 387 I weep to think how different our lives would be right now if Trump only hadn't said pussy.
Posted by: 496 at November 16, 2021 02:15 PM (U1eOr)

-------

Or

If only we would have had legit vote counts in several key states.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 16, 2021 02:17 PM (DcKNO)

395 If Mitch values comity so much he should make Grassley balance Leahy's exit. The FBI laughs at the senile oaf anyway.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at November 16, 2021 02:17 PM (y7DUB)

396 The Republicans may drive me crazy sometimes, but the Democrat party is f*cking insane.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 16, 2021 02:18 PM (NpAcC)

397 390 I'll even do different voices for different commenters.

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at November 16, 2021 02:15 PM (mf5HN)

Do Zod first.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 16, 2021 02:16 PM (45fpk)

Oh! Oh! Do it in a John Cleese voice!

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2021 02:18 PM (trdmm)

398 Oh, they'll be able to buy more than gum. Trump gets his small donations from the base. McCarthy/Luntz get their big donations from corporations. Asa Hutchinson-type Republicans aren't looking for post-government jobs from Bubba, but from WalMart.

It's not quite as clearcut as that.

https://tinyurl.com/byxtpa28

In any case, I'd think twice about voting for a GOP candidate for House or Senate here in VA if that was the state of their funding. So far as I know, that is not the case.

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2021 02:18 PM (ZsR3z)

399 Great. Now drunk illegal aliens driving stolen cars will run down more children going to school on foot.

Just unbelievable...
Posted by: torabora

"Free Candy" vans at every intersection.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 16, 2021 02:18 PM (da4kl)

400 Trump should find a chump to run against McCarthy and fund them well. WGAS if he wins or loses, it'll siphon off enough so Luntz's girlfriend is gone.

Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 16, 2021 02:18 PM (2xGy+)

401 366 I need an audible version of AoSHQ. I have things to do and can't stay in front of the screen. If I had Audible Ace, I could wrap my Christmas gifts and still keep up.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 16, 2021 02:11 PM (45fpk)

If you're using Windows, just turn on the narrator. Crapple and Goolag probably have something similar.

Posted by: Tums Festival at November 16, 2021 02:19 PM (NsI03)

402 Insane vs self-serving backstabbers.

Six of one, half a dozen of another.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 16, 2021 02:19 PM (DcKNO)

403 Once they make all schools go with electric buses, all of the kids are going to be walking to school anyway. Easy Peasy.
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 16, 2021 02:11 PM (bVYXr)

The whole bus thing is really irritating to me. Here in Commiefornia they make kids ride a bus for an hour to get to school across town in the name of diversity. It is bullshit. Waste of money and definitely a big waste of time for the kids sitting on the damned bus, tired and hungry. Sure, that will improve "learning."

Posted by: Bonnie Blue - the anti-DOTE at November 16, 2021 02:19 PM (hlxe7)

404 "393 How come when the dims have the house, they have a speaker from a very blue state"

The Republicans did have Sen. Trent Lott from the Mississippi Cheer Squad.

And in the House, they once had "Newt On A Couch with Pelosi" from Georgia.

Theory blown.

Posted by: The Democrat National Committee at November 16, 2021 02:19 PM (ifUkZ)

405 I thought for sure that the Jury would be back by now

must be some blue ass hangers on the jury

fucking gun grabbers

Posted by: REDACTED at November 16, 2021 02:19 PM (us2H3)

406 296 I get that people don't like McConnell for plenty of valid reasons, but he's not McCarthy and not really a problem/roadblock for conservative governance.

For example, McConnell let the BIF get through the Senate with 16 GOP votes on the theory that letting Manchin (and Sinema) have BIF, they'd then be less enamored with the reconciliation bill (BBB). It's a gamble, but it was a calculated one that's sort of worked so far. McCarthy had/has no plan at all and most of those 13 reps probably never even got a call from him about their BIF vote (before or after).
Posted by: Match Checksout at November 16, 2021 02:02 PM (dYe5S)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Nope. If not for the idiot GOP Senators voting for the "biPaRtiSaN" bill, the $3.5 T BBB was dead on arrival, requiring not just Manchin and Sinema, but 10 more GOP Senators to pass cloture, or Manchin and Sinema to go back on their pledge not to kill the filibuster.

And I'm not sure the progressive whackos in the House were going to knuckle under and pass the small bill knowing that their grand plans for BBB were effectively dead.

Posted by: deadrody at November 16, 2021 02:19 PM (/jrmI)

407 I weep to think how different our lives would be right now if Trump only hadn't said pussy.
Posted by: 496 at November 16, 2021 02:15 PM (U1eOr)
-----Or

If only we would have had legit vote counts in several key states.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 16, 2021 02:17 PM

Why is everybody looking at me all of a sudden?

Posted by: Mike Pence at November 16, 2021 02:19 PM (dQvv7)

408 I am sure I can set up different tiers. Platinum with Chubacabra clusters gets you not only Audible Ace with different voices for different commenters but daily postings of the VT.

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at November 16, 2021 02:17 PM (mf5HN)

I'd pay to have my comments voice like the protagonist in Persona 5.

(For the non gamers, he sounds like Marseille Marso)

Posted by: Bete at November 16, 2021 02:20 PM (F9322)

409 370 Seeing a whole bunch of new nics on here urging people to not vote because it won't make a difference.
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 16, 2021 02:12 PM (bVYXr)

Indeed. If you didn't know better, you might think it was a sneaky left-wing campaign to undermine their only opposition....

If you want to punish the GOP, don't abandon them -- take them over! Just like the left did with the Democrats. Do it by not giving to the party or their campaign committees but by supporting specific candidates who align with your values. Keep pushing them to change, to get rid of the tired old leadership, inject new blood. Push them to elect a new speaker and majority leader when they retake Congress.

Posted by: Rusty Trawler at November 16, 2021 02:20 PM (1gif2)

410 I do think that Republicans gaining Congress and the presidency in 2024 could lead to a serious split in the Democratic Party.

Their coalition has been fraying for years, and a loss in 2020 would have probably led to some kind of split as everyone pointed fingers while taking control. I could easily imagine the Squad (backed by hundreds of millions of dollars) saying, "The Establishment is only interested in failure theater and not real progressive gains and governance. Fuck them. We're striking out on our own."

I still think they can do that, but 4 years of disaster from pretty much the epitome of talentless Establishment stooge Biden will just make the argument more intense and immediate. The blood will be in the water for sure, especially if it's Trump who wins in 2024.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 16, 2021 02:21 PM (LvTSG)

411 Totally understand frustration with the GOP. But I would change that last word from "eliminated" to "transformed." The right needs to do to the Republican Party what the left did to the Democrats -- take it over and wear it like a skin suit.

Trying to eliminate the only significant opposition party to the Democrats/Left is pure suicide. But they are in the process of transforming into a more conservative, more working-class party. Yes, the leadership continues to be dominated by Chamber of Commerce types. But they are gradually aging out and retiring, and new blood is slowly being added in their place. We need to accelerate this process. Start by not giving money to the GOP, but directly to the right candidates.

Agree with this.

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2021 02:21 PM (ZsR3z)

412 What we're doing is like in HS when all the cool kids got selected to run for the various offices with the uncool kids selected to actually to all the work behind the scenes.

Also ever notice how it was always the cool kids who got to be on all the committees for Homecoming, and NewYears dances and Valentines dances and of course the Prom Theme? And on the Yearbook committee? And of course many many others. And it was the same cool kids like since about 6th grade?

Yeah, but guess who did all the work come time to dress up the gym for the dances and do all the stuff needed for the Queens and Kings and for the Photog selected to select the Queens for the Yearbook Queen and who got to pick the photos sent to same photog to pick? (sometimes a celebrity. I think they sent them to a bunch and took whoever responded)

Yeah if that's what we're doing voting for the cool kids? I'm out. I'll vote for libertarians or greens or anyone else than the name parties.

Posted by: jakee308 at November 16, 2021 02:21 PM (/fsFg)

413 Oy vey. On a conference call, internal with my company, about us getting computer and networking equipment:
"When you order hardware right now, well, G-d knows when you're going to get it."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2021 02:21 PM (DU+/6)

414 Trying to eliminate the only significant opposition party to the Democrats/Left is pure suicide. But they are in the process of transforming into a more conservative, more working-class party. Yes, the leadership continues to be dominated by Chamber of Commerce types. But they are gradually aging out and retiring, and new blood is slowly being added in their place. We need to accelerate this process. Start by not giving money to the GOP, but directly to the right candidates.
Posted by: Rusty Trawler

Sorry, but that's a pipe dream. The "Inner Party", the people we don't necessarily see but control the money and other aspects, are not going to change.
I thought for a while that the Tea Party folks were going to take over the Ohio Republican Party from the inside.
What a dope I was for thinking that. Kasich said the populist Tea Party things that people wanted to hear in 2010, and then turned on his own base. Because he is a lying rat bastard.
People in the Inner Republican Party are all rat bastard rich assholes, and are NOT going to let rude rubes like you and me and us folks here take over their game.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at November 16, 2021 02:21 PM (vcOmj)

415 >>Oh, they'll be able to buy more than gum. Trump gets his small donations from the base. McCarthy/Luntz get their big donations from corporations. Asa Hutchinson-type Republicans aren't looking for post-government jobs from Bubba, but from WalMart.

Trump's PAC has raised $75 million so far. That's a lot of gum.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 16, 2021 02:21 PM (ZLI7S)

416 They can all rot in a vat of Liquid Plumber.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 16, 2021 02:21 PM (wtvvX)

417 The Republicans did have Sen. Trent Lott from the Mississippi Cheer Squad.

And in the House, they once had "Newt On A Couch with Pelosi" from Georgia.

Theory blown.
Posted by: The Democrat National Committee at November 16, 2021 02:19 PM (ifUkZ)

This IS the 21st century, ya know

Posted by: REDACTED at November 16, 2021 02:21 PM (us2H3)

418 Why is everybody looking at me all of a sudden?
Posted by: Mike Pence at November 16, 2021 02:19 PM (dQvv7)

Hint: It isn't in hopes you'll be the nominee in 24.

Posted by: Bete at November 16, 2021 02:22 PM (F9322)

419 319 87 275 "Provides roughly $2.5 billion to help the U.S. government expand the border processing stations."

That's to help border agents hand out bus tickets and EBT cards more efficiently.
Posted by: brak

Illegals are counted as refugees so therefore get Medicaid and TAMF (free money on a Debit Card to spend with restrictions like gambling, whores, alcohol, and other vices) plus get in the front of the line for jobs and free job training. And Public Housing. Women (illegals and citizens) get it too. All on On top of EBT.
Citizens who are men dont. They only get EBT. I have been helping out a few of my frens the last 2 years who are fucked because International Capital and GloboHomoPedo sez no hire White Men. Miss has taken on a few more recently as well. Strong White Men are good to have on the farm with a purpose.
They will be loyal during the Burning Times in the near future. I have helped them find purpose.
Invest in Your People. They are the future.

And that is the rest of the story.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at November 16, 2021 02:22 PM (RdebE)

420 359....

John Hinderacker actually works hard on getting the conservative message out across MN. His political organization, American Experiment, canvassed all across the state this past Summer supporting parents confronting their respective school boards. They also run a lot state-wide ad campaigns. As for the rest of the authors, they go from slightly better than useless (Steven Hayward) to worse than dog shit (Mirengoff). Scott Johnson's not as vile as Mirengoff, but he's a nutless puss.

Posted by: PacosMojo at November 16, 2021 02:22 PM (uW9MW)

421 415 >>Oh, they'll be able to buy more than gum. Trump gets his small donations from the base. McCarthy/Luntz get their big donations from corporations. Asa Hutchinson-type Republicans aren't looking for post-government jobs from Bubba, but from WalMart.

Trump's PAC has raised $75 million so far. That's a lot of gum.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 16, 2021 02:21 PM (ZLI7S)

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He should run out of gum. Then there's only one thing left to do.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 16, 2021 02:22 PM (LvTSG)

422 It's Wisconsin... I am SURE they allowed beer and bratwurst in the jury room. I wouldn't leave that room too quickly either.

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 16, 2021 02:22 PM (flINI)

423 errr....

@RebsBrannon
Some tension is growing with a few counter protesters who have arrived outside the courthouse, one chanting earlier "Black Lives Matter for pedophiles" and almost gets kicked.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 16, 2021 02:22 PM (1t5dY)

424 I'll even do different voices for different commenters.

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at November 16, 2021 02:15 PM (mf5HN)

MUMR and BEN ROETHLISBERGER comments have to get Dalek-voice.

Posted by: Methos at November 16, 2021 02:22 PM (kOpft)

425 Yeah! What he said! Tell it brother!
Posted by: The Democrat National Committee at November 16, 2021 02:16 PM (ifUkZ)

The "you're falling into the donk's trap" scam is about as effective as listening to fat chipmunks like Brian Cates about Sleepy Jeff's master plan.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at November 16, 2021 02:23 PM (y7DUB)

426 I understand the argument about damaging the opposition being bad, despite how lousy they are. But then I do wonder to myself: when have they effectively opposed? It isn't very often at all.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2021 02:23 PM (DU+/6)

427 Do Zod first.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 16, 2021 02:16 PM (45fpk)

Oh! Oh! Do it in a John Cleese voice!

Nah, he needs to be the voice of the dragon in The Hobbit (Benedict Cumberbatch, probably autotuned).

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2021 02:23 PM (ZsR3z)

428 Lincoln had the advantage of being Commander In Chief, so he held their careers in his hand. He could move them as he saw fit. Big difference in power between that and a voter who gets ignored the day after the election.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 16, 2021 02:16 PM (MFphb)

But Lincoln had to contend with the hard fact that a lot of his Generals were big political Powers back in their own states, and he had to keep them happy. Hooker did little but give his name to all the girls he let hang around his camps, but there's still a grand statue of him in front of the Massachusetts State House. Nathaniel Banks was an absolute military idiot, so he got sent far away from Washington to the Red River campaign where he did little but waste men pointlessly until the war mercifully ended.

He still went on to become Speaker of the US House.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 16, 2021 02:23 PM (trdmm)

429 Hint: It isn't in hopes you'll be the nominee in 24.
Posted by: Bete at November 16, 2021 02:22 PM (F9322)

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The power of persuasion does not exist to get me to vote for that simpering dick.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 16, 2021 02:23 PM (DcKNO)

430 "I am sure I can set up different tiers. Platinum with Chubacabra clusters gets you not only Audible Ace with different voices for different commenters but daily postings of the VT."

What do I get for a buck fifty?

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 16, 2021 02:23 PM (B0mGw)

431 Oh and to anyone saying that we can't vote them out or we'll lose? Yeah we are already losing and I've been hearing about the Republicans transforming for 40 years.

I'm not buying it anymore. Fool me 20 times, I'm finally gonna think that I'm not winning this time either.

Posted by: jakee308 at November 16, 2021 02:24 PM (/fsFg)

432 What do I get for a buck fifty?
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 16, 2021 02:23 PM (B0mGw)
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In Biden's inflation?

A stick of gum.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 16, 2021 02:24 PM (DU+/6)

433 Lincoln had the advantage of being Commander In Chief, so he held their careers in his hand. He could move them as he saw fit.
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After the Second Bull Run fiasco, John Pope was on a train to Minnesota so fast that they had to hose down the tracks to keep them from melting.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 16, 2021 02:24 PM (AlkyK)

434 Nood

Posted by: Furious George at November 16, 2021 02:24 PM (9vQJW)

435 ZOD is voiced by Gilbert Gotfried.

This is known.

The mastic must flow.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 16, 2021 02:24 PM (6FeV1)

436 I'll even do different voices for different commenters.

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria

You're a giver, that's what you are.
And there's no one else here like you.
Stand up and take some applause.
Oh, you were standing already......

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at November 16, 2021 02:24 PM (vcOmj)

437 Oy vey. On a conference call, internal with my company, about us getting computer and networking equipment:
"When you order hardware right now, well, G-d knows when you're going to get it."
Posted by: Joe Mannix

You want oy, vey?
Wait until you are on a conference call and the company doctor spouts that the majority of hospitalized covid cases are unvaxxed.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 16, 2021 02:24 PM (da4kl)

438 Sorry, but that's a pipe dream. The "Inner Party", the people we don't necessarily see but control the money and other aspects, are not going to change.

I very much doubt that Nancy Pelosi agrees with your assessment.

Posted by: pep at November 16, 2021 02:25 PM (ZsR3z)

439 Overly Caffeinated Bad Mic AtC hopped up on lemon squares reads Audible Ace for the low ballers.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at November 16, 2021 02:25 PM (RdebE)

440 MUMR and BEN ROETHLISBERGER comments have to get Dalek-voice.
Posted by: Methos at November 16, 2021 02:22 PM (kOpft)

I read them as Bobcat Goldthwaite.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 16, 2021 02:25 PM (6FeV1)

441 400 Trump should find a chump to run against McCarthy and fund them well. WGAS if he wins or loses, it'll siphon off enough so Luntz's girlfriend is gone.
Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 16, 2021 02:18 PM (2xGy+)

This. If the L(incoln)OLGF Project can fundraise off sabotaging Republican candidates, we can do the same for GOPe ones.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 16, 2021 02:25 PM (Wo4FI)

442 I get a dozen emails a day from "Republicans" begging me for money.

I'd rather give my money to a good hooker who will at least fuck me over like I WANT to be fucked.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 16, 2021 02:25 PM (wtvvX)

443 Nood CRT

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 16, 2021 02:25 PM (W2Pud)

444 Great. Now drunk illegal aliens driving stolen cars will run down more children going to school on foot.

Just unbelievable...
Posted by: torabora at November 16, 2021 02:15 PM (Y274z)

Pretty much daily the local bay area news has some snippet about some hit and run or somebody being run over with the occasional shoot if you missed 'em as well. Strangely, police are asking for your help, but even with all of those witnesses, "he looka like a man".

A local Asian education activist loved by the community was recently run over in the middle of the day, the school district mourns, there's a giant make-shift memorial (how can you tell them apart at this point?) yet, nobody knows what the perp looked like. Please help!

AB-60 really did help make the roads safer, just like Jerry Brown said! (Why I've installed front/rear dashcams - to prove there really was a lawn mower falling off that truck in the middle of the freeway).

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 16, 2021 02:26 PM (wAnMi)

445 If my comments were being narrated, I'd like to sound like Marilyn Monroe when she was singing happy birthday to JFK.

Word on the street is you have the assets to pull that off, although it might be more effective as a video rendition.

Posted by: Just Lily at November 16, 2021 02:26 PM (o9+F/)

446 Keep pushing them to change, to get rid of the tired old leadership, inject new blood. Push them to elect a new speaker and majority leader when they retake Congress.
Posted by: Rusty Trawler at November 16, 2021 02:20 PM (1gif2)

Yes, of course. Sternly worded letters and emails, folks. Maybe even a phone call to an intern. That'll push them to be, uh, mumblesumthing and then all will be well.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 16, 2021 02:27 PM (MFphb)

447 I'll even do different voices for different commenters.

What would Lace Wigs for Sale sound like?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 16, 2021 02:27 PM (ESjRY)

448 Do Zod first.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 16, 2021 02:16 PM (45fpk)

Are we, or are we not, doing phrasing?

Posted by: blaster at November 16, 2021 02:27 PM (9VeU0)

449
People in the Inner Republican Party are all rat bastard rich assholes, and are NOT going to let rude rubes like you and me and us folks here take over their game.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at November 16, 2021 02:21 PM (vcOmj)

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The GOP has been making this abundantly clear since Reagan tried to crack their rice bowl in the 80s. It's gotten more and more and more blatant since then.

Somewhere along the line, we got to the point where Mitch McConnell was openly canvassing Democrats in MS to cross the line and vote for Cochran, because "Chris McDaniel has promised to remove voting rights for black people." We got to the point where he knifed Roy Moore. Better a Democrat than a conservative. We got to the point where the Tea Party gave the GOP House and Senate majorities and they just passed Obama's budget anyway. We got to the point of #NeverTrump. We got to the point of the 2016-2018 fake "government."

If someone can't see what's going on here, it's because they don't want to.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 16, 2021 02:27 PM (/KPLX)

450 A $1 million per state grant to encourage children to walk to school.

________________________

In fairness, this is merely a continuation of the Pedo Transgender Bathroom Exploratory Project.

Posted by: Orson at November 16, 2021 02:28 PM (A/36w)

451 Posted by: PacosMojo at November 16, 2021 02:22 PM (uW9MW)

Thanks for that response. I thought they did excellent work covering the trial of Justine Damond's murder.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at November 16, 2021 02:28 PM (y7DUB)

452 And in the House, they once had "Newt On A Couch with Pelosi" from Georgia.
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Wasnt it the drunken bollard queen?

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at November 16, 2021 02:28 PM (OeWGu)

453 How come when the dims have the house, they have a speaker from a very blue state
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Imagine what the president primary world look like if 20% of the total delegates were set aside to be allocated pro rata to the states' vote for the Republican in the prior election?

Where ID or WY have bigger sway than NH or IA.

Posted by: Lrrr at November 16, 2021 02:29 PM (jIL4c)

454 ...Just make sure that you also go after the 18 or 19 GOP senators who voted for it as well. No sense in just piling on the House members.
Posted by: joefl65 at November 16, 2021 02:00 PM (FcrV3)

Yep. Roger Wicker (Rat, MS) voted for this turd, and when he tries to run again in '24, I will be voting for his primary opponent.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 16, 2021 02:29 PM (F0YaR)

455 403 Once they make all schools go with electric buses, all of the kids are going to be walking to school anyway. Easy Peasy.
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 16, 2021 02:11 PM (bVYXr)
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The lithium ion fires are gonna be great. Beats the hell out of flushing an M80 down the shitter.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 16, 2021 02:29 PM (uia9V)

456 Yet some still say there's a problem with the economy!

Reese's is releasing a 9-inch peanut butter cup pie that weighs over 3 pounds so you can bring it to Thanksgiving and gross everyone out

https://bit.ly/3kE1osg

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 16, 2021 02:29 PM (FVME7)

457 Reese's is releasing a 9-inch peanut butter cup pie that weighs over 3 pounds so you can bring it to Thanksgiving and gross everyone out
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Reese's make good things. Did they pull the Nutrageous candy bar again?

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 16, 2021 02:30 PM (uia9V)

458 I'll even do different voices for different commenters.

Oohoohooh! Can I get Phineas from Phineas and Ferb?

Posted by: Oddbob at November 16, 2021 02:30 PM (nfrXX)

459 Reese's is releasing a 9-inch peanut butter cup pie that weighs over 3 pounds so you can bring it to Thanksgiving and gross everyone out

a small wedge might be good but too much and it might come back up in a hurry.

Posted by: Northernlurker at November 16, 2021 02:31 PM (cSyAR)

460 458 I'll even do different voices for different commenters

Peter Lorre would be good for the lurking community.

Posted by: Northernlurker at November 16, 2021 02:32 PM (cSyAR)

461 The GOP script. (1) Capitulate on every hill (2) Wheel out Lindsay's BIG gay face and have him talk about the rim job he got from Jim McGreevey and how the next time the GOP will be tough (3) Rinse and Repeat.

Posted by: Winston Smith at November 16, 2021 02:34 PM (cGQ7a)

462 Trump needs to dump McCarty hard

Posted by: Gonzotx at November 16, 2021 02:36 PM (arxua)

463 Hooker was not that bad. Sure he didn't win any major battles but did do some good stuff.He increased morale in the Army. The AOP was a political entity and most generals were scared to take the top job because they knew so many would be out to get them. Hooker was hated by the union general Halleck. Halleck wanted to take Hooker out and Hooker foolishly let him do so and it was done with ease.

No gotcha here, but is has been proven that the term hookers did not come from General Hooker. The term was used well before his time. Now side burns did come from general Burnside. Really, how could that not be the case.

btw, the hooker thing is close, I am not saying it is not controversial or disputed. Sure most of the evidence says hookers did not become a term because of this general.

Posted by: Quint at November 16, 2021 02:36 PM (NXntH)

464 VMT makes sense for the all electric cars that pay no gas tax for Highway Fund

Posted by: JM in Florida at November 16, 2021 02:36 PM (0zQ33)

465 Until people are willing to take up arms and torches and incinerate everything in DC, I feel I have no choice but to vote GOP. It's the only power I have to at least slow down this destructive spiral this country is in.

Not voting is literally a straight vote for dems. I'm going to participate to the best I can against the communists takeover of my beloved country.

Posted by: My name is Jose Jimanez at November 16, 2021 02:37 PM (Fs5vw)

466 378 It's not an opinion. It's a fact. Not one war was fought to make you free.

Posted by: Hold My Montrachet at November 16, 2021 02:07 PM

Then what was the Revolutionary War fought for? I understand it started over taxes and guns, but freedom from the Crown was a big part of it.
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 16, 2021 02:14 PM (bVYXr)
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Fought to implement a government and constitution that pretends to protect what you already had (rights) by taking them away....and to which you never consented to nor can you refuse to participate in.

You've never been free. None of us have. Ever.

Posted by: Hold My Montrachet at November 16, 2021 02:42 PM (ifVPW)

467 We got to the point where the Tea Party gave the GOP House and Senate majorities and they just passed Obama's budget anyway.
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I don't think that's accurate. Fact is, after Democrats passed the Obama "Recovery Act", they refused to pass another budget because all the graft in that stimulus bill became their baseline budget. So they just punted year after year after year.

The only thing close was the budget control act of 2011 that actually required some amount of budget CUTS

Posted by: deadrody at November 16, 2021 02:46 PM (/jrmI)

468 Not MY hill to die on, it's MY hill for THEM to die on.

Get it straight.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 16, 2021 02:51 PM (KATBx)

469 I'll even do different voices for different commenters.

Ooh, ooh, could you do the Mark Dice squeeky voice Brian Stelter mockery for me?

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 16, 2021 03:01 PM (tX+yS)

470 This is why the left always wins in end. They dont care about an election loss or a poll. They push through.Meanwhile the GOP sees one bad poll and they run to embrace the left.

Posted by: JoeXiDen - Lessko Brandon at November 16, 2021 03:05 PM (FA3l4)

471 Dems freez repubs totally OUT of crafting a mega spending Bill labeled "Infrastructure", refuse all amendments, all spending proposals, all limitations, all challenges to new programs, even admission to committee meetings drafting it., baely pass it out of the House, barely pass t out of the Senate...hold it from a confirmation vote in the house 4 full months as Hostage to an even BIGGER spending boondoggle that gets ZERO Repub input or support...and when the Dem coalition collapse, they come to Repubs asking for "Help", the answer is an immediate "Yes'? Not..."ok, NOW you need us, lets sit down and look over some of our prior objections and see what we can change for you to EARN some support"?. Holding 4 aces...and folds.

Posted by: Birddog at November 16, 2021 03:17 PM (uAI4S)

472 These Dems are Maoists, the battle cry is "FORWARD!!!"
Mao said "Advance, always advance..when you feel the steel, stop. When the steel wavers... advance"
Call it what it is, this is and has been their Battle Plan from the Git.
Claiming it is a victory to stop, or more often just "Slow" their advance, but never ever pushing them backwards. Always accepting that THEY hold the New Ground, is no victory, none at all..it is a constant retreat.

Posted by: Birddog at November 16, 2021 03:23 PM (uAI4S)

473 One problem. For example, Cocaine Mitch needs Murkowski's vote in the Senate until 2022. He has to say he's with her. When it comes time, Machiavelli would cut her guts out.

Alaskans can overcome this by voting her out in the primary. Then, Mitch can have room to maneuver.

Not similar in the House because they are in the minority, and don't have a chance until after 2022. They ought to be taking prisoners and bayoneting the wounded now.

Posted by: jeff at November 16, 2021 03:27 PM (nf4HY)

474 Kevin McCarthy is nothing more than Paul Ryan in Frank Luntz's bedroom slippers.

Posted by: Schroedinger's Cat Wears the Emperor's New Clothes at November 16, 2021 03:30 PM (bWR5k)

475 When you ask what the point is for voting for this party.

There is no point in voting for this party. They, being the Elites along with the leaders of both parties, along with various 3 letter agencies, along with the major news networks who lie, bury vital news, make up garbage news out of whole cloth who are completely controlled by the other party.

You and I are beaten. Whipped like old Indian circus elephants.
They have us whipped at the ballot box via a simple dial up to put "this party" in the review mirror.

So there you go. Gas is 3.50 a gallon so if you want to burn a buck or two to go cast a useless ballot then go get that "I voted" sticker and feel like you make a difference.

Good luck.

Posted by: Drider at November 16, 2021 03:43 PM (R/UH9)

476 Official tally in the House is 221 Democrats, 213 Republicans, and one vacancy.

Actual tally in the House is 336 Democrats, 98 Republicans, and one vacancy. We need to acknowledge this, and deal with it accordingly. We need to stop lying to ourselves as to what the political division in DC really is.

That's why the GOP never passes anything: they are outnumbered by frauds, liars, and fifth-columnists. I'm not against the GOP; I'm merely dismayed at the number of folks who call themselves Republicans, and are allowed to get away with it without challenge. I'll be more than happy to vote for Republicans - if there are real Republicans who are actually running.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at November 16, 2021 03:58 PM (K58O6)

477 I may be repeating what someone else said, but it seems that there is a lot of tap dancing here, on a historical scale. In the 1850's the ruling party for a long time was the Whigs. They were opposed by Democrats. The Whigs, after decades of get along to go along betrayal of their own base ended up not really standing for anything. That ended in 1854 when disgusted Whigs left to start the Republican Party. At that point, the Whigs had lost so much credibility about standing for or believing in anything that the new Republicans grew in a mere 6 years to take over the Presidency and both Houses of Congress.

This was, of course, the final step before the Civil War wherein the Democrats [based almost exclusively in the South] tried to abandon the Constitution. Well, kinda like Democrats today, except they are now urban-based and not southern based. It had to be fought out, was bloody, and was settled with total Confederate defeat.

There are differences with today. Our Republican-Whigs now have stifled any attempt at a working new party. Political means of change are no longer possible, because the Republicans want to side with the Democrats. END PART ONE

Posted by: Subotai Bahadur at November 16, 2021 04:44 PM (MB0cG)

478 PART TWO OF TWO:

Events move faster today. There is not time to negotiate differences, especially in our all or nothing world. Like the country reached a point where the Clausewitzian form of politics [war] was all that was left after Lincoln was elected, we are on the edge of the same remaining solution.

Now, even the act of voting cannot be trusted to give a true result of the votes cast. Which rules out conventional politics. As the master of my avatar said to the Shah of Khwarism in his declaration of war; "Only the Great Blue Sky Tengri Nor knows what the outcome will be."

Subotai Bahadur

Posted by: Subotai Bahadur at November 16, 2021 04:51 PM (MB0cG)

479 We call them Traitors

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at November 16, 2021 06:16 PM (wGqjj)

480 Kevin and Mitch are fucking McAssholes.

Posted by: Modgi at November 16, 2021 06:21 PM (cuRHM)

481 It costs 50 million dollars to encourage kids to walk to school? There's what's wrong, right there.

Posted by: leber at November 16, 2021 06:37 PM (q950r)

482 Maybe somebody needs to explain slowly to McCarthy that when we ask him to use his party to "kick ass", we actually mean the OTHER PARTY'S ass?!!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at November 16, 2021 07:01 PM (xRIgJ)

483 Maybe the GOPe should be called the Shallow State.

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