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The Bulwark Vs. The Dispatch: The Ruckus In the Cuckhouse
It's fun to watch fat weaklings throw girlpunches at each other. Jonah Goldberg, who is, I guess, sad and lonely with so little Internet Attention these days, drew first blood -- blood? Let's say he drew first pinkish liquid -- by insinuating that he and his fellow fat sadsack liberals at The Dispatch were not amoral grifters like those at The Bulwark, because they only write most of their articles about Trump and Trump supporters. Whereas The Bulwark features, I guess, exclusively articles attacking Trump and Trump-supporters. Before getting to that, I want to clarify something I should have more strongly clarified long ago: Some readers and voters are NeverTrump and probably feel implicated when I attack NeverTrump. I actually mean that as to the NeverTrump political leaders and " " " intellectual " " " leaders. I mean the politicians and writers, not the voters and readers. My basic position is that you don't get to resign to join the enemy and stab your once-compatriots in the backs, and then, four years later, come back to your original nation and ask for your commission back. Now, as for people who are just voters, people can vote for whoever they want, and no one owns your vote. And no one is entitled to your readership. So I have no actual animus towards NeverTrump voters. If Trump was too toxic for you to vote for -- I get that. I wondered about that my own self. But if you were a political leader or an " " " intellectual " " " leader (and note that NeverTrump "thought leaders" are dumb and lazy and chiefly just repeat what the leftwing media (and their corporate donors) tell them), you're out. You're out for good. No army ever gives a commission back to an officer who deserted, and certainly not to an officer who joined the enemy. It's incredible to me that "thought leaders" at places like National Review, who were too cowardly to actually endorse Hillary and F. Joe Biden but left readers with little doubt as to who they wanted to win, are now back, presenting themselves to conservatives, and announcing "We are willing and ready to Lead You Lesser Intellects again." Really? How big of you. And until when? When will your next defection take place? When is the next time your obvious, transparent sympathies to the left (and your desire for approval by your liberal friends and future media employers) require you to break faith with conservatives and propagandize for a filthily corrupt leftwinger, who you will claim is "moderate" and "decent"? Fuck you. Use your diminished influence to write for and represent Democrats. We got on without you for six years, and didn't notice we'd missed anything we weren't glad to be rid of. You're proud of saying you can do business with Democrats. Well, do business with them, and never darken our doors again. That point made, here's Goldberg, attempting to claim The Dispatch is not a Trump-obsessed outlet. (My Fat Dude, have you read David French lately?)
Cobra Commander XV
@cobracommandr15
The Bulwark going to War with the Dispatch is the undercard paywall-per-view for Pre-School Fight Club.
If you wake up every morning trying to argue about why Trump is bad and the people who like Trump are evil, you're just as obsessed with him as the people who wake up every morning wanting to prove that Trump is a glorious statesman and everything he does is great.Both sides! Both sides! He said the thing he says! He said Both Sides! Never Trump and pro-Trump publications, he concludes, are "two sides of the same Trump-obsessed coin." Well, this caused quite the stir at The Bulwark, who were quick to point out -- rather accurately -- that in fact The Dispatch only exists to pander to NeverTrumpers (and, I should say, the leftwing donors who think that stoking NeverTrump sentiment will help Democrats).
Jonah Goldberg's Narcissism of Small Differences In a world of trouble, why snipe at allies? by MONA CHAREN OCTOBER 13, 2021 5:30 AMGreat start. And of course-- these people are allies. They are alike in almost all ways, except for one: The people at The Bulwark have been more honest and open about simply defecting to the Democrat Party, while those at The Dispatch defected to the Democrat Party as well -- but for tactical/fundraising/branding reasons, wish to pretend that they did not.
ack in 2016, when formerly distinguished conservatives were suddenly lining up to issue glassy-eyed endorsements of a half-mad reality-TV figure, Jonah Goldberg wrote a brilliant column comparing the experience to Invasion of the Body Snatchers. He captured the sense so many of us had that nearly an entire party and, eventually, nearly an entire intellectual movement, had been lobotomized. "People would go to sleep violently opposed to Trump and everything he represented,” he recapped for Vanity Fair, "but by morning they'd start telling me how under comrade Trump, we were going to have the greatest harvest we've ever seen." If Goldberg does nothing else in his career, I will always cherish him for his indomitability when others, with less to lose, crumpled. So it's disappointing to see him falling for the narcissism of small differences. As Sigmund Freud wrote, "It is precisely the minor differences in people who are otherwise alike that form the basis of feelings of hostility between them."True. The Bulwark has branded itself as Republicans Turned Democrats, while The Dispatch is branding itself as True Republicans Aligning With Democrats Until the Republican Party Becomes True Once More. This is a very slight distinction, but that's how you win market position, by specifying the niche you wish to compete in. By the way, she links this Vanity Fair article in which the frontmen for The Dispatch make it clear that the entire reason for the outlet is NeverTrumpism. For example, it starts thus:
avid French may check off traditional Republican boxes--conservative, military veteran, evangelical Christian--yet admits he’s out of step with the party's Trumpified base and is wary about its future. "If Donald Trump doesn't win or doesn't run in 2024, but somebody who adopts the ethos of Donald Trump wins or runs as a Republican in 2024, I don't see that as an improvement," French told me. "I see that as sort of this cementing of the identity of the party behind this particular ethos." French said he fears the "angry populist" movement of the Trump era--or "the new right,” as he has also put it--will become irrevocably melded with the Republican Party. That's a future that French, and other writers at The Dispatch, hope to avoid. While the conservative-media industry largely fell in line behind Trump, some outlets and pundits considered insufficiently loyal charted a different course.So when French and Goldberg and Hayes were advertising their new venture at a leftwing outlet -- and no doubt hoping to troll for some leftwing donations -- they were quite upfront and explicit that the blog (I almost said "magazine," lol) was NeverTrump now, NeverTrump forever. But now for branding reasons, Goldberg now wants to pretend that The Dispatch is and always was above this Trump vs. NeverTrump business. Unlike those other guys. Which is precisely what Charen suggests:
Celebrating the two-year anniversary of the Dispatch, Goldberg, apparently feeling the need to do some product differentiation, tossed off a gratuitous swipe at The Bulwark. Both publications are redoubts of Trumpism-defying conservatives, and thus, you might think, allies? Compadres? Friends?Fellow travelers, I would say. Fellow grifters, I would say, perhaps more accurately. Are The Dispatch and The Bulwark competing for a shrinking pile of leftwing donations, and trying to position themselves as the one NeverTrump blog to survive? Will these Pepsi vs. Coke brand wars intensify as leftwing donors realize that, as usual, Kristol and Goldberg and Sykes and Hayes have no reach or influence that is worth renting? Let's hope! Speaking of NeverTrump: the great Lee Smith sent along a review of Tom Nichols' new " " " book " " " -- really a quickie cash-in, turning his petty twitter arguments and demands for attention into a print file -- and I gotta tell you, it's something. Oliver Traldi reviews Noted Twitter Addict and Self-Proclaimed All-Purpose Expert Tom Nichols' newest 10,000 word Twitter rant and I love it. The review, I mean.
The word "book" must only be written in quotations marks because, as befits Tom Nichols' level of intellectual seriousness and literary ambition, it seems to be yet another quickie "Here are some of the zesty Twitter comebacks I wished I'd thought of at the time I wasting hours of my life on a social media platform designed for teenagers."
I'd call it l'esprit de l'escalier (the wit of the staircase, the Jerkstore response you think of on your way out the door) but disgusting fatbody Tom Nichols would never take the escaliers.A "Never Trump conservative" whose specialty is national security and nuclear arms, Nichols has taught at Georgetown, Dartmouth, Harvard, and the U.S. Naval War College.Wow that's a lot of schools to teach at without ever being offered tenure. Let's call Nichols, as we say of journeymen baseball players dealt from one club to another, the "Much-Traveled Tom Nichols." Let me rebut this introduction: Tom Nichols is no conservative, obviously. He brands himself that because he's an intense left-Democrat partisan who knows that game of "the conservative who attacks conservative." By his own admission, he left the GOP years and years ago and only rejoined it, briefly, in 2012 to vote against Newt Gingrich in the primaries. That's his own story -- that he's a bitter liberal who really hated the conservative Newt Gingrich and so joined a political party just to vote against a conservative. That's not a conservative move. That's a leftwing partisan move. But based on that brief, insincere "joining" of the GOP -- which he would of course quit multiple times, starting in 2015 -- he brands himself a "Never Trump conservative." People should not dignify this lie by repeating it.
Oh well, one doesn't expect style or deep thinking from a Twitter Rant.
Indeed, Our Own Worst Enemy is peppered with so many internal tensions and contradictions that it's hard to believe it's not an attempt to use paradox to convey some sort of secret, true meaning. For Nichols, it's not just that the problem with democracy is democracy. It's that there's a society-threatening crisis, which is that people think there's a society-threatening crisis when there isn't. There's a bunch of people ruining our political system, and their problem is that they think there’s a bunch of people ruining our political system. Populism is a "'compelling' narrative, and like all compelling narratives, it has some elements of reality in it" -- but at the same time, "populist leaders have to ramp up white-hot rhetoric . . . lest the public doubt for a moment whether they should believe what they're hearing or seeing with their own lying eyes." So who are you gonna believe, huh? Voters who only care about their own self-interest are ruining America, but the same voters are also so driven by resentment that they can't recognize their own self-interest. Nicholas has a chapter on how corrosive narcissism and anger are, but his whole book seems spittle-flecked and he frequently breaks the flow of his exposition to narrate his own expert credentials and accomplishments. Nichols castigates people for "exchanging paranoid memes on Facebook" right after saying that "the rest of us are vigilantly scanning the horizon . . . for the shock troops of a mass movement," and right before claiming that “authoritarianism could arrive . . . on little cat feet, quietly establishing itself while the rest of us are busy watching television, staring at our phones, and speaking to our friends and family through emojis." A series of tiresome tirades written for an audience assumed to be sympathetic and admiring of Tom Nichols, Our Own Worst Enemy consists of 200 pages of bluster, with little explanation of its core assertions and little argument for the connections it makes among them. Poor editing worsens this impression: Elementary errors in spelling and grammar errors give the book the feel of an online rant. An anecdote from the first chapter is retold in the fifth chapter, with the same analysis and even the same jargon. Of his lectures on the moral failings of stupid and slovenly nonexpert Americans, he writes that he is "more reticent to deliver such sermons these days" (he means "reluctant," but reticence would have been nice). ... Is it fair to take any of this stuff seriously, or is it just mean? Nichols is a kind of virtuoso of the empty sentiment, the filler sentence. Usually this sort of sentence is a sign a writer is straining to meet a word count or a deadline, something that's palpable in many of the books I review. But Nichols writes entire books of filler
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at October 15, 2021 03:10 PM (z5Vrg)
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Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:13 PM (XHhHI)
Reporting on limp-wristed slapfights among those with atrophied gonads is no way to build readership, ace!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2021 03:13 PM (97I0d)
I guess some people get their prickly feelz addressed, and others get to suck it up.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at October 15, 2021 03:14 PM (Mzdiz)
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Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2021 03:15 PM (97I0d)
No but i know some recovered nevertrumpers who wince when I speak of NeverTrump.
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:15 PM (0G13K)
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at October 15, 2021 03:15 PM (qvjMx)
Posted by: Brother Tim has nothing much to say, lately at October 15, 2021 03:15 PM (OUMaO)
Once feculitis sets in you can't really call it a niche anymore.
Posted by: DaveA at October 15, 2021 03:15 PM (FhXTo)
Oops, I posted at the end of a dead thread. Am I banned?
Posted by: Lady in Black
Dead poster walking here!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2021 03:16 PM (97I0d)
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at October 15, 2021 03:16 PM (Mzdiz)
Not quite like this morning's painting, but close.
Posted by: t-bird at October 15, 2021 03:16 PM (DMQdU)
Let's hope!
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Well, as long as Republican Congressional leadership reads them, I'd say they probably still have influence.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:16 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: f'd at October 15, 2021 03:16 PM (Tnijr)
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Posted by: Mishdog at October 15, 2021 03:17 PM (/VWLE)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 15, 2021 03:17 PM (DU+/6)
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:15 PM (0G13K)
Well, you know, they should wince. But they're big boys and girls. Prejudices have consequences. Here in America, voting for the lesser evil is something we have to do, if we want to vote.
As it is, I voted for Trump because SMOD. And he was pretty good in that role.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at October 15, 2021 03:18 PM (Mzdiz)
Are they setting aside their monocles as they slap fight? 'Cause you know they set aside their monocles whenever they commence to get serious.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2021 03:18 PM (97I0d)
Whereas The Bulwark features, I guess, exclusively articles attacking Trump and Trump-supporters.
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Drooling Banjos
Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:18 PM (XHhHI)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 15, 2021 03:18 PM (C0WGN)
Both sides need to listen to me. That's why I always say that. Sheesh.
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at October 15, 2021 03:18 PM (cTqLg)
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at October 15, 2021 03:18 PM (TPKPX)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:18 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 15, 2021 03:18 PM (0ryfU)
Posted by: Jay Nordlinger at October 15, 2021 03:19 PM (FKHhS)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 15, 2021 03:20 PM (C0WGN)
Give it 10 years. USA #1!
Posted by: Daryl Herbert at October 15, 2021 03:20 PM (CVpUt)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:20 PM (CYnTg)
Here? Who?
Posted by: f'd
There's at least one former such, trapped in an academic backwater in MO.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2021 03:20 PM (97I0d)
Posted by: mrp at October 15, 2021 03:21 PM (Pqytn)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 15, 2021 03:21 PM (r5BVk)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 15, 2021 03:18 PM (0ryfU)
Ladybugs are a blessing. Want to trade my stinkbugs?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at October 15, 2021 03:21 PM (Mzdiz)
The Trump Card: the Trump Card is what these fake true conservatives can pull now to avoid ever having to support or defend a conservative policy for the rest of their grifting careers.
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:21 PM (JI/0U)
In the 2020 election Trump had a record of not being terrified of Putin. Joe Biden had a record of being paid off by Ukraine and China.
And on and on. There is no way a conservative could vote for Biden or suggest to someone else they do so.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 15, 2021 03:21 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 15, 2021 03:21 PM (Dxj7R)
You can expect this rivalry to become more heated as the oligarchy decides they don't really need so many useless mouths to maintain the same failed platitudes.
Posted by: trev006 at October 15, 2021 03:21 PM (Eqkqm)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 15, 2021 03:21 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 15, 2021 03:22 PM (vO+yX)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 15, 2021 03:22 PM (C0WGN)
Maybe they think your VW Bug is their queen.
I looked it up- ladybugs *do* swarm in the fall, looking for a nice warm place for the winter. Congratulations on their choice of a home!
Posted by: t-bird at October 15, 2021 03:22 PM (DMQdU)
I would suggest "The Bulwark Vs. The Dispatch: The Rumpus In the Cuckhouse"
Posted by: Chuck C at October 15, 2021 03:22 PM (EughT)
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Fuck-friends; friends with benefits.
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 15, 2021 03:23 PM (UHVv4)
It's an endearing story of men coming together with common purpose in the midst of devastating social upheaval.
Posted by: David French at October 15, 2021 03:23 PM (FKHhS)
By this time next year, they'll all be admitting they voted for Trump
Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2021 03:23 PM (mR6Gs)
Posted by: Qoheleth at October 15, 2021 03:23 PM (+NQw5)
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Here's thing that the Alleged Expert Tom Nichols and all of his fellow technocrats and technocrat wannabes always miss: the reason. Nichols' turgid exposition about the value of the expert class and his womanly lamentations about how it just doesn't get the respect it deserves are two sides of the same coin.
Eventually, Tom, you have to deliver the goods. You and your crew never have. Wanna know why you and your arrogant technocrat buddies not only aren't respected but are ignored until the rubes get around to pillorying you? It's because you're stupid. You're incompetent. You're impotent. You're wrong. You're useless. You claim to be an expert yet your track record indicates that you have trouble tying your shoes. You claim to be moral and upright yet you slavishly slobber over any manifestation of deep state trouser snake that sneaks into your cuckshed. You are worthless, and your game is over.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 15, 2021 03:23 PM (DU+/6)
Posted by: f'd at October 15, 2021 03:23 PM (Tnijr)
I don't follow either (dispatch or bullwark; marvel or DC) and so most of this is over my head. *
*Hey, I learned a new Japanese word last week - chinpunkanpun.
It means goobldygook. or "all greek to me". I think it is literally means "fine shit, chinese shit" (chin-pun-kan-pun) but I am not sure since there seems to be the spoken version and the written version and Japanese gets very complicated.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 15, 2021 03:23 PM (PEQfB)
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Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (5l6FZ)
Here? Who?
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I don't know of any who are still active but there are some who left that i miss.
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (0G13K)
******
Presented by Sinking Ship Productions
Posted by: Muldoon at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (5Woea)
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at October 15, 2021 03:21 PM (Mzdiz)
This is not a blessing. I have to wear a mask outside so I don't inhale the damn things. And we have mass numbers of stinkbugs too.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (0ryfU)
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (d9FiS)
Posted by: Qoheleth at October 15, 2021 03:23 PM (+NQw5)
Always with the burning piss jokes!
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Oooooo. I like that.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (Dxj7R)
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (0G13K)
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Come back, Gabe!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (LvTSG)
At the end of the day, one is either willing to do what it takes to win (and I'm not just talking elections) or not. The NeverTrumpers - all NeverTrumpers - are not. I've got no use for a movement that has never conserved anything other than its unjustifiably high opinion of itself.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (QU5/8)
Posted by: Count de Monet, Intermittent Faster, Unvaccinated Kulak-American at October 15, 2021 03:25 PM (4I/2K)
How can you be a thought leader when no one is following you?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy
The delicious irony is that J'noah referred to himself as being a "thought leader" two or three years ago when, to the rest of the world, that was the one thing furthest away from what he truly was.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2021 03:25 PM (97I0d)
Posted by: Pierre Omidyar at October 15, 2021 03:25 PM (FKHhS)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 15, 2021 03:25 PM (5Woea)
Who is this Mona lady, anyway? I've never heard of her. And if I've never heard of her, neither has my mom, or Steve, or David. And if we haven't heard of her, then she's the gas-station sushi of hotdog sandwich journalism.
Now, have any of you been inspired as much me by the new Bond girl? She's the silver-screen Harriet Tubman of Jackie Robinsons. I know you fellow conservatives love movies and baseball and history, so this comment is germane to all of our beliefs, and it's as funny as season five of the Simpsons.
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at October 15, 2021 03:25 PM (cTqLg)
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (d9FiS)
Real Men fold their pizza sandwiches, you hack!
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 15, 2021 03:25 PM (6FeV1)
SorryJustSayin
Posted by: Paul in Texas at October 15, 2021 03:25 PM (kYyDC)
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at October 15, 2021 03:26 PM (Mzdiz)
The "New Right"?. He needs to get his ass out of the northeast for a bit. I even know of places that serve fancily named Italian sandwiches out in flyover country.
Posted by: Javems at October 15, 2021 03:26 PM (AmoqO)
Posted by: The Nichols Fan Club at October 15, 2021 03:26 PM (XHhHI)
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Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 03:26 PM (KZzsI)
No army ever gives a commission back to an officer who deserted, and certainly not to an officer who joined the enemy.
*snort*
Posted by: Sir Henry Simmerson at October 15, 2021 03:26 PM (n+4am)
Posted by: Justsayin' at October 15, 2021 03:26 PM (Fs5vw)
Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:26 PM (RLGan)
What is there? Like 10 or something?
Posted by: jakee308 at October 15, 2021 03:27 PM (FZzni)
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at October 15, 2021 03:27 PM (d9FiS)
Oooooo. I like that.
Posted by: nurse ratched
Mount some lasers on those sharks' heads and I'm all in!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2021 03:27 PM (97I0d)
What perplexes me the most is that none of these Media Republicans (and Republican Shits in Congress) can recognize their Expiration Date is approaching soon.
How long do they think this will continue?
What do they think will happen when the Democrats hold all the elected power and it's a One Party country? What will be their "place" in that scenario?
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:27 PM (JI/0U)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:27 PM (CYnTg)
I also am fond of pointing out that an "expert" who offers his "expertise" freely is not an expert. Experts get paid.
Lawyers will not give off-the-cuff legal advice, usually. Part of that is because to really render anything like real advice, they have go through hours of getting the facts and reviewing the law. Any "advice" which is not backed by that work is not advice, it's bullshit they're saying to make you go away.
I pay for experts, when I want their advice. When I've looked up their bona fides and determined they're worth listening to.
But Tom Nichols bloviates on Twitter all day for free. He thinks his advice is worth something. But it's worth exactly what he's charging for it. It's worth literally nothing.
He's not an expert. He's a Twitter Ego Queen.
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:27 PM (0G13K)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 15, 2021 03:27 PM (vO+yX)
Posted by: The Buggles at October 15, 2021 03:27 PM (UHVv4)
Before the Trump schism, I read a couple of NWC articles by him, and all I can see is they made no impression whatsoever.
A contrast: the foremost writer on warships today (I would say "ever") is Norman Friedman. He's actually a physicist, and got into writing about ships as a hobby. A review of his first book hit him for that. A few years later, in the same pub, another review of another writer criticized that book as lacking "the Friedman touch."
Posted by: Eeyore at October 15, 2021 03:27 PM (7X3UV)
Posted by: Golfman at October 15, 2021 03:28 PM (hOMhY)
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If you call someone a "thought leader" and he doesn't deny it and/or get offended, don't trust him. I had this happen to me once. My boss, during a meeting (just the two of us) was going over where she thought I should focus me efforts. She said something like "... a great thing for our thought leaders like you to be working ..."
When she finished, I said, "That sounds fine. I'll do it - but only on the condition that you never call me a 'thought leader' ever again." She was surprised, then we talked about why.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 15, 2021 03:28 PM (DU+/6)
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 15, 2021 03:28 PM (trdmm)
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (0G13K)
Me too. The summer of 2016 was brutal. I remember you said you were going to become a Democrat because you were tired of losing. I almost cried with frustration.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at October 15, 2021 03:28 PM (Mzdiz)
Like most Americanized foreign things, it takes a failure and makes it worse.
Posted by: egads that cynical but I can't deny it at October 15, 2021 03:28 PM (H5baN)
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Just now.
Oh! No "A" there, my mistake.
Posted by: Sundown Joe Biden, needs new Depends at October 15, 2021 03:28 PM (FKHhS)
That's not what the fake twitter experts do, of course. They do not act like a real expert and listen to your intended goal and figure out how to accomplish that.
Instead, they just tell you what your goal SHOULD be.
That's the easy part. That takes no effort.
But that's all they have on offer.
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:28 PM (0G13K)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:28 PM (CYnTg)
Posted by: f'd at October 15, 2021 03:23 PM (Tnijr)
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I can't understand how any pragmatic person can't understand you block for the guy moving the chains!
It's that damn simple.
Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:28 PM (XHhHI)
"The Dispatch"
"Eugenics"
"Aether"
"Lobotomy"
Alex, What are five concepts best never heard from again?
Posted by: JEM at October 15, 2021 03:28 PM (8erNz)
What do they think will happen when the Democrats hold all the elected power and it's a One Party country? What will be their "place" in that scenario?
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:27 PM
They hope to be killed last.
Posted by: Chuck C at October 15, 2021 03:29 PM (EughT)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 03:29 PM (KZzsI)
He's not an expert. He's a Twitter Ego Queen.
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:27 PM (0G13K)
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Less than nothing. Not only is not worth paying for, if you follow his advice you'll probably end up dead in a pile of other corpses.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 15, 2021 03:29 PM (DU+/6)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 15, 2021 03:29 PM (fs1hN)
2000 hours makes one expert at sucking cock.
Posted by: Golfman at October 15, 2021 03:28 PM (hOMhY)
Way to go, Nickelodeon!
Posted by: mrp at October 15, 2021 03:29 PM (Pqytn)
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I'm with you! Ladybugs are the only bug I'll let crawl onto my fingernail bed so I can safely escort them to safety.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 15, 2021 03:29 PM (sVtYq)
Posted by: f'd at October 15, 2021 03:23 PM (Tnijr)
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Because they're class obsessed and reliant on the federal government being a graft machine for their employers.
It's not really that difficult to understand, I don't think.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:29 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (CYnTg)
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An "expert" at it, one might even say
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (FKHhS)
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (d9FiS)
Star Trek vs Star Wars
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 03:29 PM (KZzsI)
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Red Dwarf vs. Classic Doctor Who
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (RLGan)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (0ryfU)
If you can collect them and sort out the ladybugs, you could make big money. People pay for them, you know.
My goddamn cats chase stinkbugs out here on the porch and reek of stinkbugs. I like cilantro, but this is too much.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (Mzdiz)
Posted by: Justsayin' at October 15, 2021 03:26 PM (Fs5vw)
I understand what he means - it's a measure of the level of responsibility. None of our votes actually counted in the last election anyways.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (trdmm)
Should I wear an ascot or a sweater tied around my waist?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (7F9te)
If he's the All-Around All-Purpose Expert Without Portfolio he claims to be, why is he obese? Can't he quickly whip up an expert plan for weight management and adhere to it using his highly trained mind?
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (0G13K)
Breaking "news":
Adult pretender and hollywood celery Michael Caine is mort.
Just kidding. He's retiring from pretending.
Whofuckingcares.
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (JI/0U)
Posted by: Thrawn at October 15, 2021 03:31 PM (5aFbR)
But neither he nor Friedman would qualify under the standards by which Nichols earned his laurels.
Posted by: Eeyore at October 15, 2021 03:31 PM (7X3UV)
That's the easy part. That takes no effort.
But that's all they have on offer.
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:28 PM (0G13K)
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Because the whole intelligentsia is invested in the CT idea that the rabble does not know what their "best interest" is.
Once you buy that you can dismiss people on what their best interest is, you don't need to listen to them because you should be fostering their *real* best interest.
Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:31 PM (XHhHI)
yes and yes
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:31 PM (0G13K)
I'd laugh like hell if they didn't actually have a chance of pulling this out.
Beltway delenda est.
Posted by: JEM at October 15, 2021 03:31 PM (8erNz)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:31 PM (CYnTg)
And this is why Jonah Goldberg is stupid. We *did* have "the greatest harvest we've ever seen", until the plandemic hit. But Jonah hasn't recognized that. There actually *is* liberal fascism going full steam ahead, and it took exactly the form Jonah described in what is allegedly his own book. But Jonah hasn't recognized that.
It's like all he knows is theory, and even when his theory is correct and something he predicted really happens, he somehow can't recognize it.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 15, 2021 03:31 PM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: Chuck C at October 15, 2021 03:29 PM (EughT)
If they took the jab, it's moot.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at October 15, 2021 03:31 PM (Mzdiz)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 15, 2021 03:31 PM (d9FiS)
Posted by: Justsayin' at October 15, 2021 03:26 PM (Fs5vw)
I understand what he means - it's a measure of the level of responsibility. None of our votes actually counted in the last election anyways.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (trdmm)
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NeverTrump voters aren't demanding that we bow to their expertise. NeverTrump "intellectuals" are pretending like they were right for the past 5 years and that we should love them for their erudition by giving them more money and influence.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:31 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:32 PM (JI/0U)
It's that damn simple.
Posted by: Axeman "
You would think so but there has to be something else that overrides the pragmatism.
Posted by: f'd at October 15, 2021 03:32 PM (Tnijr)
I've admitted it before but not recently. I was NeverTrump until about Nov 10th sadly, though:
1. I was in a state where the outcome was never in question. Had it been, my sacred honor would have been given a middle back seat while pragmatism took over.
2. I stfu during the run up to the election because I actually did want Trump to win. I just didn't want to support him.
Anyway about Nov 10 was when the lies finally became clear. When for every other President prior even an avowed Marxist and known socialist, we had a "well the election is over we need to wait and see to see how he actually governs prior to rolling out the opposition"
But not for Trump, wherein my own side whom cut every Democrat slack during the "honeymoon" period started right in, in the days after, making public alliances with people whom were supposedly ideological and political enemies, to stop Trump before he'd done a damn thing that needed stopping.
I knew I'd been had then. I was ready to walk over hot broken glass in 2020 to vote Trump.
Posted by: mikethemoose at October 15, 2021 03:32 PM (T/vhV)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:32 PM (CYnTg)
yes and yes
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:31 PM (0G13K)
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I made a good head thing. I smert.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:32 PM (LvTSG)
Is this the Great Star Wars trek or the Great Star Trek wars?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2021 03:32 PM (97I0d)
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:24 PM (0G13K)
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Come back, Gabe!
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Cruel, but funny nonetheless.
Posted by: a smattering of polite applause at October 15, 2021 03:32 PM (9wv5x)
I posit that their gluttony is a reflection of the other greed that drives their other behaviors.
Posted by: The Rt. Rev. Yudhishthira's Dice at October 15, 2021 03:32 PM (cTqLg)
The Venn Diagram of NeverTrumpers and Faucci Followers is as close to a perfect circle as geometry and mathematical precision may allow.
Trump himself being the self-evidencing exception here, in urging the jab, all while being as Pro Trump as is humanly possible to achieve.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at October 15, 2021 03:32 PM (QzJWU)
Posted by: Thrawn at October 15, 2021 03:31 PM (5aFbR)
It's especially so when you're the one out in the kitchen making two - and only two - sandwiches.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 15, 2021 03:33 PM (6FeV1)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (7F9te)
Go sockless.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at October 15, 2021 03:33 PM (Mzdiz)
******
Any of them wearing pussy hats?
Posted by: Muldoon at October 15, 2021 03:33 PM (5Woea)
NeverTrump voters aren't demanding that we bow to their expertise. NeverTrump "intellectuals" are pretending like they were right for the past 5 years and that we should love them for their erudition by giving them more money and influence.
they're now criticizing Biden without admitting that they propagandized for him, or accounting for their own errors in doing so.
They just want you to forget their six years of grievous mistakes.
Trump has to admit every mistake, but the NeverTrumpers? Nah.
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:33 PM (0G13K)
Should I wear an ascot or a sweater tied around my waist?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (7F9te)
So you're walking into a party AND onto to a yacht?
You must be vain!
Posted by: Carly Simon at October 15, 2021 03:33 PM (mR6Gs)
Posted by: bonhomme at October 15, 2021 03:33 PM (UW2ZS)
Just kidding. He's retiring from pretending.
Whofuckingcares.
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (JI/0U)
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I kinda do. Caine is the main actor I know that could act in a total stinker and somebody asks you how the movie was and you can say "Michael Caine was good..."
You could watch Santa Claus vs. the Martians with Michael Caine as Santa and people would still go "Michael Caine did a good job".
Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:33 PM (XHhHI)
Please cite me as the man you are quoting.
Posted by: Confucius at October 15, 2021 03:34 PM (0G13K)
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It's an insurrection! Hide!
Posted by: Nanzi Pelosi at October 15, 2021 03:34 PM (FKHhS)
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 15, 2021 03:34 PM (UHVv4)
Should have insisted that she use your proper titles: Brain Lord and Idea Fuhrer.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 15, 2021 03:34 PM (QU5/8)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 15, 2021 03:34 PM (d9FiS)
Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (RLGan)
I've had a yen to watch the early eighties bomb "The Island" (the one based on the Peter Benchley book, not the Michael Bay clone one) just to see some 80s Caine.
And I know it's a bad movie. I read the book and that wasn't that great, either.
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (0G13K)
Posted by: mrp at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (Pqytn)
They'll have no other choice because things are going to be intolerable.
But they will write tortured articles about it.
Posted by: Carly Simon at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (mR6Gs)
They just want you to forget their six years of grievous mistakes.
Trump has to admit every mistake, but the NeverTrumpers? Nah.
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:33 PM (0G13K)
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They can criticize Biden all day and all night. Doesn't mean I'm re-upping my NR subscription.
Realizing reality months or years late isn't why I would subscribe to a political magazine.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:33 PM (0G13K)
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Exactly. Deception is not an intellectual value. Elusion is not an intellectual value.
Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (XHhHI)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (CYnTg)
Adult pretender and hollywood celery Michael Caine is mort.
Just kidding. He's retiring from pretending.
I loved him paired with Sean Connery in "The Man Who Would Be King".
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (97I0d)
You could watch Santa Claus vs. the Martians with Michael Caine as Santa and people would still go "Michael Caine did a good job".
Posted by: Axeman
He was in JAWS fcking 3fckingD.
btw, that shark was the size of a tangerine
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (JI/0U)
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (5l6FZ)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (fs1hN)
Wear an ascot and bring a brainy chick, a ditzy lesbian, a stoner, and a Great Dane.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 15, 2021 03:36 PM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2021 03:36 PM (mR6Gs)
ace has to be tickled to death about this development. I look forward to the mocking.
It's a fight between 2 groups of entitled obese effeminate fat gay retards.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 15, 2021 03:36 PM (JepKJ)
And I know it's a bad movie. I read the book and that wasn't that great, either.
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (0G13K)
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Tenet! Where he delivers exposition in the most haughty and high classed way possible! It's a tour de force!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:36 PM (LvTSG)
It's also notable that they don't seem to have very many differences among themselves; another feature of the American Right that NR used to trumpet. So maybe they're trying to drum up something to compare with Meyer vs Kemp, or Jaffa vs Kendall. Or lately the exchange between Anton and Gottfried at AG. It won't work; the teapot is too small.
Posted by: Eeyore at October 15, 2021 03:36 PM (7X3UV)
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What would you say she "did", exactly?
Posted by: The Bobs at October 15, 2021 03:36 PM (FKHhS)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:36 PM (CYnTg)
Mike Caine was in the original Get Carter. 1973, I think.
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:37 PM (JI/0U)
Michael Caine is the poor kid who got f'n rich as hell by working the corners of a system that didn't favor him, and never to this day overvalued himself.
Viz so many sports heroes.
Posted by: JEM at October 15, 2021 03:37 PM (8erNz)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:37 PM (CYnTg)
They'll have no other choice because things are going to be intolerable.
But they will write tortured articles about it.
Posted by: Carly Simon at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (mR6Gs)
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"On page 18, beneath a half page article about the evils of populism, we endorsed Trump with about two inches of column space without mentioning it on the cover of the volume. What else did you want?!"
-National Review
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:37 PM (LvTSG)
yeah he's always good in everything and he was good in that. But I want to see young Caine. (Or young-ish.)
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:37 PM (0G13K)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (CYnTg)
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As my father used to say, "We could kill a fifth pleasantly."
Posted by: Eeyore at October 15, 2021 03:37 PM (7X3UV)
Biden Spox: Harris 'Has Done A Tremendous Job' On The Border
An assertion offered without evidence offered to back it, I'm sure.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2021 03:37 PM (97I0d)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (LvTSG)
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The problem with these people is that they didn't SMELL ANYTHING on the campaign trail.
I did. And it STUNK.
Not knowing that Joe Biden was a lifelong braggart and OF COURSE, he would say he could do anything "better"--that's what braggarts do, is a serious strike against your case of punditry.
Being "blindsided" by 50-years-in Biden is a heck of a feat (and not in a good way).
Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:37 PM (XHhHI)
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 15, 2021 03:36 PM (JepKJ)
Isn't that a little harsh?
Oh wait..I reread it..Nope, that checks out.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 15, 2021 03:37 PM (Y5qcH)
Jim, SND
How I wish he would just SHUT UP about the clot shot already. Just never fucking mention it, if he can't speak the truth about it.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at October 15, 2021 03:37 PM (Mzdiz)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:38 PM (CYnTg)
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143 124 Jonah Goldberg: "Is it really cuckoldry if you pay for the bull that plows through your wife like Hunter Biden through cocaine?"
Please cite me as the man you are quoting.
Posted by: Confucius
hahaha, nice zing, Ace.
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:38 PM (JI/0U)
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:37 PM (0G13K)
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To Dolley, my wife, his career begins and ends with Muppet Christmas Carol.
Since I married her, I think it's the movie I've seen the most.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:38 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at October 15, 2021 03:38 PM (sWM8x)
haha, was it dreadful? Or all right?
Caine was very upfront about his choice of roles. Once a year he'd look for something good, and, in the winter, he'd look for a movie, any piece of shit would do, that paid well *and* was filming on-location in the Caribbean or Florida.
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:38 PM (0G13K)
Ace seems to really be into Alfie, but won't admit it.
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:39 PM (JI/0U)
Can anyone credibly say that Hillary would be better than Biden as things stand now? It is an interesting argument because it might have meant left of the fringy shit and just never ending grift, but I think it is a fair question.
When it comes down to it: their disdain of Trump overrode every other concern. Friends? Allies? The State of the Country? Everything was LESS important than them being seen as being even TOLERANT of Trump.
And that I do NOT have patience for.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 15, 2021 03:39 PM (kBuGL)
Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:37 PM (XHhHI)
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They weren't blindsided. They lied.
I'm happy to hear more voices in the cacophony criticizing our vegetable in chief, but they deserve no more attention than pretty much the entirety of Twitter.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:39 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:39 PM (XHhHI)
The only thing 'new' about us is that we're not taking your shit anymore.
Posted by: t-bird at October 15, 2021 03:40 PM (DMQdU)
Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 15, 2021 03:40 PM (xPJvm)
Posted by: Thrawn at October 15, 2021 03:40 PM (5aFbR)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 15, 2021 03:40 PM (QU5/8)
Whatever happened to commenter Ms. Chokesondick?
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist
She's veep now ... do try to keep up.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2021 03:40 PM (97I0d)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:40 PM (CYnTg)
I love how Jonah loves to tell the same damn joke about gas-station sushi all the time, when you know that he's not above vacuuming down five pounds of it. As if anyone believes there's some kind of comestible he'd pass up. A refrigerator case with a picture of food on it would never survive an encounter with him.
Posted by: The Rt. Rev. Yudhishthira's Dice at October 15, 2021 03:40 PM (cTqLg)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 15, 2021 03:40 PM (5Woea)
An assertion offered without evidence offered to back it, I'm sure.
She opened her 'Blowjobs, 50 Centavos' booth but didn't have Square set up to take credit and couldn't make local change.
Posted by: JEM at October 15, 2021 03:41 PM (8erNz)
i'm not saying that, really. I don't think we have anything in common any more.
I just want to be clear about who it is I think needs to stand for some accountability. It's the "influencers" and grifters and "thinkers" who gave the advice who must be held accountable, not the saps who took that advice.
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:41 PM (0G13K)
~~ Michael Caine
Posted by: Quotes that surprise at October 15, 2021 03:41 PM (FKHhS)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 15, 2021 03:40 PM (5Woea)
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Closer to a writing desk.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:41 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: carley at October 15, 2021 03:41 PM (727nS)
Posted by: mikethemoose at October 15, 2021 03:41 PM (T/vhV)
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Has she seen the Italian Job, or the Man who would be King?
Posted by: Not Joe Bob Briggs at October 15, 2021 03:41 PM (PXj+e)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 03:41 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:41 PM (JI/0U)
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Has she seen the Italian Job, or the Man who would be King?
Posted by: Not Joe Bob Briggs at October 15, 2021 03:41 PM (PXj+e)
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Are women allowed to like The Man Who Would be King?
Is that legal?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:42 PM (LvTSG)
~~ Michael Caine
Posted by: Quotes that surprise
he's pretty based.
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:42 PM (0G13K)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:31 PM (LvTSG
But who has more power? They're equal in my eyes. One writes on blogs that few people read, and others make comments that few people read. But both groups vote NeverTrump (whether the votes are counted or not). That's equity.
Posted by: Justsayin' at October 15, 2021 03:42 PM (Fs5vw)
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Dude. Like everybody here voted for McCain and Romney.
Chill.
Posted by: And you could go back further at October 15, 2021 03:42 PM (laiy4)
I'm happy to hear more voices in the cacophony criticizing our vegetable in chief, but they deserve no more attention than pretty much the entirety of Twitter.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:39 PM (LvTSG)
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Sometimes you have to argue with the case that will be presented to you. Nobody comes up and makes the case "I lied" unless they are not arguing with you but coming for contrition.
They will claim to have been blindsided by a guy who made his odiousness known for 50 years.
I don't usually need to argue with the premise that I know what is going on in somebody else's mind.
Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:43 PM (XHhHI)
Chill.
Posted by: And you could go back further at October 15, 2021 03:42 PM (laiy4)
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I did not vote for McCain.
I was living in Italy and forgot to request an absentee ballot.
So, I got that going for me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:43 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:43 PM (CYnTg)
Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:43 PM (RLGan)
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:37 PM (0G13K)
Billion Dollar Brain FTW.
Brain vs Caine.
Plus Ken Russell. 60's gold.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at October 15, 2021 03:43 PM (wAnMi)
btw, "lincolntf" was here yesterday after a very long time being shunned by Ace for criticizing Ace's squat form. Or was it Ace's carbohydrates? I forget which.
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:43 PM (JI/0U)
But if you maintain that you're a republican or conservative post-2016, calling yourself NeverTrump is simply being that guy who won't admit he's cold because he didn't think a jacket was necessary.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 15, 2021 03:43 PM (KbCG3)
I liked that
Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:43 PM (RLGan)
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Original Alfie is great.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (97I0d)
To be fair, in '08 I almost wrote in Palin for the President and McCain for VP.
Romney, though, woof.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (ZGrMX)
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Oh they like it all right, they just won't want to admit it.
Same with the Wind and the Lion
Posted by: Not Joe Bob Briggs at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (9wv5x)
Damn - never saw that coming.
Posted by: Working for Peanuts at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (eBWUj)
I sensed that Ace was "Needle in a Timestack"-curious. Has Caine done a chick flick he could dig on?
Posted by: The Rt. Rev. Yudhishthira's Dice at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (cTqLg)
They're also in the Cult of John McCain, because of course. Liberal tough-guy, tricks conservatives into agreeing with the left, what's not to like?
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (0G13K)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (LvTSG)
Was there a remake?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (vO+yX)
(may have been all lower case)
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Oh, saw that one a couple of days ago actually. Great flick.
Posted by: Not Joe Bob Briggs at October 15, 2021 03:45 PM (MJtKT)
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Ah, the tried-and-true idiocy of channeling Immanuel Kant. He should have called it Critique of Pure Expertise.
Posted by: ShainS -- State-Stamped Sluggish Schizophrenic at October 15, 2021 03:45 PM (ILUPz)
Chill.
Posted by: And you could go back further at October 15, 2021 03:42 PM (laiy4)
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Romney.
Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:45 PM (XHhHI)
The NeverTrump strand is just like the Obamacon strand, made up entirely of people drawn from the Capitol Hill / K Street nexus and the world of opinion journalism. It has no DEMOGRAPHIC weight. What's different is that people like Pierre Omidyar and Jeff Bezos have been financing them for six years.
Posted by: Art Deco at October 15, 2021 03:45 PM (1BrBu)
Trump is a white trash southern democrat populist. Which may be good or bad. He is not a economic libertarian free trade conservative like the neo-cons and never trumpers. Thanks to nixon and reagan most republican voters are populists william f buckley conservatives.
Posted by: carley
You're mostly accurate, but Donald Trump is most definitely a Northeast Republican.
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:45 PM (JI/0U)
Posted by: SFGoth at October 15, 2021 03:45 PM (KAi1n)
no i thought that looked bad. I just linked it as a something to goof on.
Caine did Blame it on Rio which has a smokin' hot chick in it.
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:45 PM (0G13K)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 15, 2021 03:45 PM (vuisn)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:46 PM (CYnTg)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 03:41 PM (KZzsI)
I don't get the "cult" accusation at all. It's just projection.
If Trump "evolved" on his immigration stand or raised taxes, his voters would have deserted him so fast,
The DEMOCRATS are the cultists because they don't THINK at about anything, just vote whoever has the (D) by his name--even if he's a dementia-riddled POS
Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2021 03:46 PM (mR6Gs)
Posted by: mikethemoose at October 15, 2021 03:41 PM (T/vhV)
Watch the rainstorm apology scene in The Train Robbers to understand what I mean here:
'What's wrong with him?'
"Not one DAMN thing!"
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 15, 2021 03:46 PM (kBuGL)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (LvTSG)
Was there a remake?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (vO+yX)
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With Jude Law. Law has, IMO, a lot of talent.
But Caine shines.
Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:46 PM (XHhHI)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 15, 2021 03:46 PM (BFigT)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (vO+yX)
Yes
Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:46 PM (RLGan)
You'll note, it is not "never energy independence," "never middle east peace' or "never full employment."
It is always "never trump."
They never complain of the policies -- not even one. They complain of Trump
That means they are shallow. That means they would rather have someone in who fits their idea of "nice" or whatever (funny, though, they never complain about people who rip up speeches on global TV or who refuses to stand up for the head of their party when he's being unjustly impeached. That strikes me as "mean," "vulgar," or whatever other adj you want to use) than to put America first.
Yeah, some of us are blunt. But it's the truth. If you'd rather be with the Kool Kids than MAGA...you're shallow.
Posted by: magaproud at October 15, 2021 03:46 PM (x5dTf)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 15, 2021 03:30 PM (7F9te)
Dress like Judge Smails in "Caddyshack" when Al Czervik sank his boat.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 15, 2021 03:46 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (vO+yX)
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With Jude Law. Law has, IMO, a lot of talent.
But Caine shines.
Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:46 PM (XHhHI
The things I learn here.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 15, 2021 03:46 PM (vO+yX)
Caine did a movie where he bangs his friends young daughter. Blame it on Rio
Posted by: steevy
Mrs Bruce Willis
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:47 PM (JI/0U)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:46 PM (CYnTg)
Michelle Johnson's perfect under-aged rack
Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2021 03:47 PM (mR6Gs)
But if you maintain that you're a republican or conservative post-2016, calling yourself NeverTrump is simply being that guy who won't admit he's cold because he didn't think a jacket was necessary.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 15, 2021 03:43 PM (KbCG3)
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Not, it wasn't. Not liking Trump, not voting for him in the primary, thing like that? Fine. That's politics. Not supporting the candidate and not voting for him in the general? Less good, but whatever.
But that isn't being "NeverTrump." That isn't insanity. That's just politics. NeverTrump is different. That is "no matter what, no matter how successful, no matter the real progress, I will never ever support him." That's pathology. There's a huge difference between "Trump-skeptical" or "I don't like him" and being "NeverTrump."
It's like during presidential campaigns and people get bumper stickers like, "Anyone but {Candidate X}." Be careful what you wish for. Did I like Hillary? No. Were there worse options? Undoubtedly. Would I vote for a worse option just to block Hillary? No.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 15, 2021 03:47 PM (DU+/6)
Posted by: The Rt. Rev. Yudhishthira's Dice at October 15, 2021 03:40 PM (cTqLg)
I'd be willing to bet he's got one of those hot dog rollers in his kitchen. He loads it up every morning.
Makes hot dog soup with the leftovers. Writes about how there's nothing better on a cold winter evening than a steaming bowl of hot dog soup, loaf of crusty sour dough bread and a box of wine.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at October 15, 2021 03:47 PM (wAnMi)
Posted by: zombie Howard Cosell at October 15, 2021 03:47 PM (UHVv4)
The DEMOCRATS are the cultists because they don't THINK at about anything, just vote whoever has the (D) by his name--even if he's a dementia-riddled POS
Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2021 03:46 PM (mR6Gs)
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If Trump seemed to "evolve" on anything, it always seemed to be more toward his conservative base. More Constitutionalist, more federalist...
Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:47 PM (XHhHI)
Posted by: Not Joe Bob Briggs at October 15, 2021 03:47 PM (9wv5x)
no i thought that looked bad. I just linked it as a something to goof on.
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Ah. I misread that and thought "really, dude?!"
But I won't goof on it. That sucker is a damned near perfect chick-flick... "a couple of high-value dudes fight a running battle across time for the love of this Amazing Woman Who Is Just Like You, The Viewer."
I wish I'd thought of that shit.
Posted by: The Rt. Rev. Yudhishthira's Dice at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM (cTqLg)
Caine and Ben Kingsley did a delightful little Sherlock Holmes comedy.
In this version Dr Watson, played by Kingsley, is the real brains behind the operation. Kingsley needed a fake Holmes because he wanted to go to a very prestigious and snooty medical college that would have rejected him if they knew about Watson's habit of moonlighting as a detective.
But that backfired on Watson. People loved Holmes, so Watson couldn't get rid of him. Additionally, Holmes is a terrible person. He's an idiot. He gambles too much. He drinks too much. He treats women badly. He chafes at the rules and requirements of Watson.
It's sort of an odd couple comedy, and I enjoyed it.
Posted by: bonhomme at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM (UW2ZS)
F*kn midwits.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM (/hXfz)
Russia claimed one of its warships on Friday forced a U.S. Navy destroyer to abandon what it said was an attempt to intrude into its territorial waters in the Sea of Japan.
Video released by the Russian ministry of defense appears to show the moment its anti-submarine vessel Admiral Tributs closed to within 60 yards of the U.S. destroyer USS Chafee in Peter the Great Gulf, to the south of Vladivostok.
But the account was disputed by U.S. officials who said the interaction was 'safe and professional,' according to Fox News.
US warship intercepted by Russian Navy while trying to sail into country's territorial waters, Moscow says amid drills with China
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM (UHVv4)
that's a good movie. The statue of the sailor you see in Lawrence Olivier's parlor was put into Knives Out as an homage.
I just googled to find out if Caine had ever been in a movie with James Mason. They were in 1974's The Destructors together aka The Marseille Connection. I might have to watch that just based on the cast.
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM (0G13K)
NTers on Twitter get *really* mad when someone suggests McCain deliberately crashed his plane to give opsec details to the communists.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: f'd at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM (Tnijr)
Posted by: bonhomme at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM (UW2ZS)
Uh, down goes Mona!!!
Um. They're both going down, folks!
Posted by: zombie Howard Cosell at October 15, 2021 03:47 PM (UHVv4)
Damn, talk about being trapped between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea...
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM (kBuGL)
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I seem to remember some Jacqueline Bisset boobage.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM (d9FiS)
Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:49 PM (RLGan)
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Ah, yes. The Trump era. March of 2020 gas in my town was 1.51. The DJI hit 29k for the first time.
My retirement accounts were going gangbusters.
Unemployment was at 3%. In my state, it was 2.1%.
Minority unemployment in October 2019 was the lowest it's ever been.
For the first time since the creation of the department of energy, the US was actually exporting energy.
There's literally nothing about David French that can't be improved by giving him a tire tool to the teeth.
Posted by: Azathoth at October 15, 2021 03:49 PM (fkgvR)
Posted by: mikethemoose at October 15, 2021 03:49 PM (T/vhV)
Posted by: f'd at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM (Tnijr)
Projection.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at October 15, 2021 03:49 PM (wAnMi)
I watched him for decades on CSPAN. He never came off as much more than a snake with legs.
Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:49 PM (XHhHI)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 15, 2021 03:50 PM (/hXfz)
no that's The Deep (with Robert Shaw)
The Deep is one of my favorite movies. I own it. Love it.
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:50 PM (0G13K)
You could watch Santa Claus vs. the Martians with Michael Caine as Santa and people would still go "Michael Caine did a good job".
Posted by: Axeman
He was in JAWS fcking 3fckingD.
btw, that shark was the size of a tangerine
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:35 PM (JI/0U)
I believe there's a story about that movie. It was universally panned, and a fan walked up to him one day and asked him why he acted in such a film. His answer was something along the lines of, "well, my fees for that film paid for a lovely house on the Riviera."
Refreshingly honest. I like Michael Caine.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 15, 2021 03:50 PM (mdjgu)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 15, 2021 03:50 PM (kBuGL)
Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (RLGan)
Ace - to understand Old School Republicans is to understand why we need The Draft.
They love the notion of a Benevolent State. Most people do. We'll accomplish big things - men on the moon, global peace through superior firepower, yada yada yada.
Most of today's political argument is all about what a Benevolent State should look like. Because a country full of independent farmers tending to their fields unbothered by politicians simply doesn't have those arguments.
Posted by: Working for Peanuts at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (eBWUj)
He didn't die retired
Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (RLGan)
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Punctuation is your friend.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM (d9FiS)
The Deep Cleavage
Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (mR6Gs)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (CYnTg)
Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (RLGan)
He died on the job?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (Y5qcH)
But that isn't being "NeverTrump." That isn't insanity. That's just politics. NeverTrump is different. That is "no matter what, no matter how successful, no matter the real progress, I will never ever support him." That's pathology. There's a huge difference between "Trump-skeptical" or "I don't like him" and being "NeverTrump."
It's like during presidential campaigns and people get bumper stickers like, "Anyone but {Candidate X}." Be careful what you wish for. Did I like Hillary? No. Were there worse options? Undoubtedly. Would I vote for a worse option just to block Hillary? No.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 15, 2021 03:47 PM (DU+/6)
You're right but the difference is simply semantics. I thought Trump was a buffoon in 2015-2016. Didn't think I could ever get behind him. Then he started to govern and boom, 180.
Yes, NeverTrump(TM) is a pathos but it was also a sentiment.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (LvTSG)
Yeah.. LOL... He retired
Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (RLGan)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Let's Go Brandon at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (OalnH)
RIP Michael Caine. You were fine in a muppet Christmas Carol and The Man who would be King.
Posted by: BourbonChicken
RIP
And he was great as the voice of Darth Vader.
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (JI/0U)
Posted by: f'd at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM (Tnijr)
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It's their compartmentalized thinking.
"You conservatives shouldn't be happy with a guy who said 'pussy'! It's so terrible that you could be okay with that!"
It's just like the Jesus-swindle they do periodically. People who don't believe that Jesus was God Incarnate, so don't have the same picture of infallibility to bring to the table, will always want to tell you what Jesus would think, being just a man.
Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (XHhHI)
yeah it's great, great, great. Great John Barry score.
And the underwater scenes are more exciting than those in Thunderball.
I always thought of it as an honorary James Bond movie.
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (0G13K)
It's sort of an odd couple comedy, and I enjoyed it.
Posted by: bonhomme at October 15, 2021 03:48 PM
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Same here.
Posted by: irright at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (SchQD)
He didn't die retired
Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (RLGan)
I hate to even say this, but this announcement has that ring of..."it won't be long."
Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (mR6Gs)
God Fucking A damnit politics.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (JepKJ)
https://bit.ly/3FU55D5
Posted by: bonhomme at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (UW2ZS)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (vO+yX)
Posted by: SFGoth at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (KAi1n)
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (0G13K)
Well, let's put it this way. Why would Mona Charen even respond, if not out of concern over losing shrinking donations?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (RLGan)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (fs1hN)
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Blame it on Rio, mate!
Posted by: Micoh Caine at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (XHhHI)
They're also in the Cult of John McCain, because of course. Liberal tough-guy, tricks conservatives into agreeing with the left, what's not to like?
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:44 PM (0G13K)
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You left out the Cult of Pierre Delecto, anti-Mormite h8r!
Posted by: ShainS -- State-Stamped Sluggish Schizophrenic at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (ILUPz)
https://is.gd/P1WMzM
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (DU+/6)
Posted by: f'd at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (Tnijr)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Leave post-it notes on bare shelves "Enjoying socialism yet?" at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (jaQXh)
"He said 'pussy'" sounds even dumber after those same wine moms declared Cardi B's "Wet Ass Pussy" as "so brave and so stunning".
Posted by: Ian S. at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (UHVv4)
I always thought of it as an honorary James Bond movie.
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (0G13K)
Damning with faint praise?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (kBuGL)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Let's Go Brandon at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (OalnH)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (vO+yX)
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Or did some serious wish-casting.
Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (XHhHI)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 15, 2021 03:51 PM (fs1hN
I dunno, the bird smuggling plot was always lame. I guess I don't like that style of animation
Posted by: Kindltot at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (KbLYZ)
I like to tell chicks that it's like going in raw.
Being a bad boy in the 2020s is gravy. All you have to do to be an outlaw is just not act like a scared retard.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (7F9te)
Chill.
For me it was more a vote for Palin and then a vote against 0bummer, but yeah.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (SchxB)
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (CaxEf)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (Y5qcH)
Paint drying is more exciting than the underwater scenes in Thunderball.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (ZGrMX)
NeverTrump is nothing more than the sentiment that Chile didn't need a Pinochet, or Spain didn't need a Franco - if Pinochet or Franco were really, really so much nicer than reality.
Posted by: Working for Peanuts at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (eBWUj)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (vO+yX)
Yeah Joe Biden has been in politics forever. He's already long been famous for doing awful things. Hunter Biden being a crackhead wasn't a big secret either.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (z5Vrg)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 15, 2021 03:47 PM (DU+/6)
> Who was and/or is worse than Hillary?
Posted by: Thesokorus at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (1ais2)
Caine did Blame it on Rio which has a smokin' hot chick in it.
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:45 PM (0G13K)
A couple of smokin' hot chicks.
Posted by: Justsayin' at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (Fs5vw)
https://bit.ly/3FU55D5
Posted by: bonhomme at October 15, 2021 03:52 PM (UW2ZS)
That is fucking creepy.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (kBuGL)
Posted by: steevy
Sounds like a TLC reality show where the addicts search for sunken treasure, which is an amazing idea now that I type it out.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (JepKJ)
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:55 PM (0G13K)
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Hey, c'mon now. This is a big Fcukin' Deal!
Posted by: Joseph Robinette Biden to a live Audience from the whitehouse podium at October 15, 2021 03:55 PM (IRuZ7)
Lebron James
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:55 PM (CYnTg)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Let's Go Brandon at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (OalnH)
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Because it should have cheesed off the evangelicals more than it did.
As if that could swing the tide for Abort-Abort-Abort Clinton.
Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:55 PM (XHhHI)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Leave post-it notes on bare shelves at October 15, 2021 03:55 PM (jaQXh)
oh right, Demi Moore
she didn't hold a candle to michelle johnson
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:55 PM (0G13K)
They have the same mental capacity as him.. That's why
Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:55 PM (RLGan)
LOL.. Because we all know kids aren't people
Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (RLGan)
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It's because kids are clean and articulate people.
Posted by: ShainS -- State-Stamped Sluggish Schizophrenic at October 15, 2021 03:55 PM (ILUPz)
Literally not a single one of them is willing to do that. They are still INSISTING that every they did was Totally Principled Conservatism.
Fuck all of them.
Posted by: DudeAbiding at October 15, 2021 03:55 PM (52QgA)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 15, 2021 03:56 PM (kBuGL)
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Hey thanks! Good idea. *starts checking for boobs*
Posted by: Not Joe Bob Briggs at October 15, 2021 03:56 PM (NZYC4)
Posted by: mrp at October 15, 2021 03:56 PM (Pqytn)
Paint drying is more exciting than the underwater scenes in Thunderball.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 15, 2021 03:54 PM (ZGrMX)
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*fistbump*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:56 PM (LvTSG)
Please tell me he didn't say that in his aggressive whisper or with his creepy grin.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 15, 2021 03:56 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 15, 2021 03:47 PM (DU+/6)
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Did the same people vote for Biden to stop Trump?
Then they're fools by their own stated goals.
Posted by: Axeman at October 15, 2021 03:57 PM (XHhHI)
Vulgarity is an anachronism.
Posted by: f'd at October 15, 2021 03:57 PM (Tnijr)
Congrats, Joe. You've just laid down the recipe for servitude.
According to your logic, the Founders should have just paid their taxes.
Posted by: Working for Peanuts at October 15, 2021 03:57 PM (eBWUj)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Leave post-it notes on bare shelves at October 15, 2021 03:57 PM (jaQXh)
And the remakes uniformly suck
By the way, the girl in Blame It On Rio was Michelle Johnson, Demi played Caine's daughter.
Its kind of a creepy movie, with teeny Michelle crushing hard on Michael Caine in his 40s or 50s. But she's not a predator, its just a schoolgirl crush that she goes way too far with.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 03:57 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: f'd at October 15, 2021 03:57 PM (Tnijr)
Posted by: The Rt. Rev. Yudhishthira's Dice at October 15, 2021 03:57 PM (cTqLg)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 15, 2021 03:57 PM (vuisn)
LOL.. Because we all know kids aren't people
Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 03:53 PM (RLGan)
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It's because kids are clean and articulate people.
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and who can't really fight back when you molest 'em.
Posted by: Joseph Robinette Biden being real man, real, get it at October 15, 2021 03:57 PM (AYreR)
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 15, 2021 03:57 PM (IMmgC)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at October 15, 2021 03:57 PM (WROfJ)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 03:58 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 15, 2021 03:57 PM (vuisn)
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"Retired"
He punched a student. It's been hush, hush, but Punctuation was just too exclamatory.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:58 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:58 PM (0G13K)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 03:58 PM (CYnTg)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 15, 2021 03:58 PM (vO+yX)
Chill.
I didn't vote in 2012. I won't vote for people like Romney who throw the game as Republicans and vote just like Progressives. I voted against Obama in 2008 and voted for Palin.
Nibbas have to earn my vote...
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 15, 2021 03:58 PM (JepKJ)
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Remember when W ran for office on privatizing social security?
Then a few years later with a Republican House and Senate we ended up with Medicare part D?
That's all you need to know about the Republican party.
Posted by: Azathoth at October 15, 2021 03:58 PM (fkgvR)
Posted by: pahound at October 15, 2021 03:58 PM (Crpt7)
Posted by: Thesokorus at October 15, 2021 03:58 PM (1ais2)
Inspiring!
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 03:59 PM (0G13K)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 03:58 PM (KZzsI)
I disagree.
There was a lot of "action" in that wet tee shirt
Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2021 03:59 PM (mR6Gs)
Posted by: Some Rat at October 15, 2021 03:59 PM (r1z5A)
According to your logic, the Founders should have just paid their taxes.
Posted by: Working for Peanuts at October 15, 2021 03:57 PM (eBWUj)
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No. I didn't say I would vote *for* Hillary. I wouldn't. But if I thought the Republican was a worse candidate, I would sit it out. I wouldn't shill for her. I also wouldn't vote for someone worse than her just to prevent her from getting it - and that's exactly what these people did to Trump twice, once with Hillary and then again with Biden.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 15, 2021 03:59 PM (DU+/6)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 03:59 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at October 15, 2021 04:00 PM (SchxB)
How about early Keanu with River's Edge?
Now that was a creepy depressing movie.
Or 80's crap with Mosquito Coast?
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 04:00 PM (JI/0U)
Bulwark Staff: "We're going to make you suck our dicks dispatch!"
Dispatch Staff: "No we're going to make you suck our dicks!"
Both call a truce and spend the night blowing each other.
Can these guys please decide to have a rumble on a sinking freighter. Better yet they can all get together, along with all the tough guy leftist, and David Reaboi can just kick all thier asses at once.
Posted by: Rbastid at October 15, 2021 04:00 PM (Wx49j)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 04:00 PM (CYnTg)
Quite magnanimous. I find the individual NeverTrump voters even more loathsome than the transparent grifters and "thought" leaders in the Never Trump movement, who at least have the excuse of greed and running a con rather than profound mental retardation. I wouldn't piss on a Never Trump voter who was afire.
"It's incredible to me that "thought leaders" at places like National Review, who were too cowardly to actually endorse Hillary and F. Joe Biden but left readers with little doubt as to who they wanted to win, are now back, presenting themselves to conservatives, and announcing "We are willing and ready to Lead You Lesser Intellects again.""
Jim and Tammy Faye Baker had better comeback prospects. If mass hypnosis even were possible, National Review would not have a snowball's chance in hell of future legitimacy. But...
The review of Nichols' pamphlet/screed was awesome.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 15, 2021 04:00 PM (nMx88)
Posted by: WiNO - Now Fortified with Fraud at October 15, 2021 04:00 PM (EpDzw)
Don't "fight me, bro". I don't care about your opinion. That is wrong.
Posted by: Working for Peanuts at October 15, 2021 04:00 PM (eBWUj)
I didn't know about that Michelle Johnson actress. She's hot.
But, I can't get over the name. One of the single most horrible people I've ever had the displeasure of knowing is named that.
Posted by: The Rt. Rev. Yudhishthira's Dice at October 15, 2021 04:00 PM (cTqLg)
Posted by: carley at October 15, 2021 03:41 PM (727nS)
Point of order, Neo-Cons are not libertarians, they are statists who only difference is they want to be able to call themselves conservatives and make money and status off of using the military.
Second point of order, your comment that Bill Buckley is a populist is akin to saying that Joseph Stalin liked small businesses. Buckley thought "the people" stunk on ice and spent his career stomping out their influence while berating them for their opinions on politics.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 15, 2021 04:00 PM (KbLYZ)
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 15, 2021 04:00 PM (IMmgC)
C'mon; who wouldn't pay to see Jonah vs. 'Tater in the octagon? 2 pastey Pillsbury doughboys in long long shorts with guinea t's, Copper-fit knee sleeves; theme from Rocky playing as they both pull into Golden Corral...
Posted by: pahound at October 15, 2021 03:58 PM -
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Four moobs enter...
Posted by: irright at October 15, 2021 04:01 PM (SchQD)
And the remakes uniformly suck
I liked the remake of True Grit.
Posted by: bonhomme at October 15, 2021 04:01 PM (UW2ZS)
Posted by: Mark1971 at October 15, 2021 04:01 PM (xPl2J)
To sniff or as an entree?
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Sexually, same as white kids.
I know there's video of him taking his mask off when he's around white people and putting it on whenever brown people get close, but I'm wondering if there's any evidence of him showing That Biden Attention to any black girls and boys.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Leave post-it notes on bare shelves at October 15, 2021 04:01 PM (jaQXh)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 04:01 PM (CYnTg)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Leave post-it notes on bare shelves at October 15, 2021 03:55 PM (jaQXh)
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Same "logic" as "Only a birthing person can have an opinion on abortion! My pussy, my choice!"
Posted by: ShainS -- State-Stamped Sluggish Schizophrenic at October 15, 2021 04:01 PM (ILUPz)
Posted by: The Rt. Rev. Yudhishthira's Dice at October 15, 2021 04:00 PM (cTqLg)
So how ya' been
Posted by: Michelle Johnson at October 15, 2021 04:02 PM (RLGan)
Posted by: Some Rat at October 15, 2021 04:02 PM (r1z5A)
Now that was a creepy depressing movie.
Yeah. Very depressing and sad, but really well done. And, this will shock you, but Crispin Glover plays a really weird, scary, crazy guy
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 04:02 PM (KZzsI)
Well, as long as Republican Congressional leadership reads them, I'd say they probably still have influence.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 15, 2021 03:16 PM (LvTSG)
North of 90 percent of elected Republicans still find National Review edgy and relevant, which explains the condition of today's GOP.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 15, 2021 04:02 PM (nMx88)
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 15, 2021 04:02 PM (UHVv4)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 04:02 PM (CYnTg)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Leave post-it notes on bare shelves at October 15, 2021 04:02 PM (jaQXh)
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Look the thing you are imagining in your head, both of the beating the crap out of each other, won't happen. In reality it ends up in tears and sweaty hugs, and finally a "grinding/shuddering" acknowledgement that heterosexuality just was never their thing.
Posted by: just sayin at October 15, 2021 04:03 PM (NZYC4)
So you're not a guy that would ever "gum up the works". Got it.
Posted by: Working for Peanuts at October 15, 2021 04:03 PM (oMc1W)
Another clueless bunch.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 15, 2021 04:03 PM (fs1hN)
"Chansgender individuals"
https://tinyurl.com/yds2n475
@TrumpJew2 17m
Who told him to shout like this?
https://tinyurl.com/ydrt9jb6
@TrumpJew2
Biden panics about forgetting his mask, puts it on, takes it off, then puts it on again
https://tinyurl.com/yjxmhsxs
Posted by: Tami at October 15, 2021 04:03 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Leave post-it notes on bare shelves saying Enjoying socialism yet? at October 15, 2021 04:03 PM (jaQXh)
Joe Biden
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 04:03 PM (CYnTg)
So did I but I was referring to the Michael Caine remakes. Get Carter with Sly Stallone was terrible.
The movie version of A Bridged Too Far was actually better than the book, for me at least. That's really rare.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 04:03 PM (KZzsI)
Biden panics about forgetting his mask, puts it on, takes it off, then puts it on again
https://tinyurl.com/yjxmhsxs
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Count how many times he touches his mouth in that clip.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Leave post-it notes on bare shelves saying Enjoying socialism yet? at October 15, 2021 04:04 PM (jaQXh)
Posted by: pahound at October 15, 2021 03:58 PM -
I picture it as the "Star Wars Kid" versus himself.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at October 15, 2021 04:04 PM (vuisn)
I agree. They did a great job, and they brought out parts of the book that the other missed but... why? Did not need remaking.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 04:04 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 15, 2021 04:04 PM (dfRN6)
Second point of order, your comment that Bill Buckley is a populist is akin to saying that Joseph Stalin liked small businesses. Buckley thought "the people" stunk on ice and spent his career stomping out their influence while berating them for their opinions on politics.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 15, 2021 04:00 PM (KbLYZ)
I would rather be governed by the first 2,000 people in the telephone directory, he said, than by the Harvard University faculty.
Not really a populist or anti-populist. Definitely anti-technocrat though. Didn't believe in blank slate equalism or a state that ran people's lives.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at October 15, 2021 04:05 PM (z5Vrg)
Posted by: f'd at October 15, 2021 04:05 PM (Tnijr)
Slapfest.
Like two girls who wave their arms but also cringe and lean away at the thought of making contact.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2021 04:05 PM (bDqIh)
The weird thing about that lady is her husband. She's this morally bankrupt, redolent pile of human filth, and he was just the nicest guy you could ever meet. I was always just like "what the hell happened here, man?"
Posted by: The Rt. Rev. Yudhishthira's Dice at October 15, 2021 04:05 PM (cTqLg)
btw, I hear they're making a new show (or movie) for macauley culking to reprise his role in Home Alone...all grown up.
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 04:05 PM (JI/0U)
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These hairless and empty ball sacks, fairly and correctly described in this post, are the parasite wing of the UniParty. If they weren't """intellectuals""" they would been part the of cabal in the Federal government that was involved with trying to overthrow the Trump presidency and once that failed are now spending their days plotting how to round citizens as """"domestic terrorists"""".
Posted by: LostInSpace at October 15, 2021 04:05 PM (ESLBo)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 04:05 PM (KZzsI)
Biden has reminded everyone today that he was once poor too while serving his first 36 years in elected office.
Posted by: Azathoth at October 15, 2021 04:06 PM (fkgvR)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 15, 2021 04:06 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 04:05 PM (JI/0U)
He's truly strange
Posted by: It's me donna at October 15, 2021 04:06 PM (RLGan)
Posted by: pahound at October 15, 2021 03:58 PM
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It could be billed as "Jonah and The Whale."
Posted by: ShainS -- State-Stamped Sluggish Schizophrenic at October 15, 2021 04:06 PM (ILUPz)
Caine and Shirley did a caper movie in the Sixties called Gambit. I need to see if I can find it on YooToob; I haven't seen it since it was new.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 15, 2021 04:06 PM (/XOcP)
Biden whispers into the mic again
https://tinyurl.com/ygdryolc
@TrumpJew2
This kid is terrified of Biden
https://tinyurl.com/ydqx9fd6
Posted by: Tami at October 15, 2021 04:06 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Same reason they remade a "New Hope". (makes cash register sound...yeah, I'm that old.)
Posted by: Some Rat at October 15, 2021 04:06 PM (r1z5A)
Posted by: Ben Had at October 15, 2021 04:06 PM (OssB6)
btw, I hear they're making a new show (or movie) for macauley culking to reprise his role in Home Alone...all grown up.
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 04:05 PM (JI/0U)
Reminds me one of my kids went to see the Jonas Brothers in concert last week. Apparently, they're doing legit, quality music these days.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 15, 2021 04:06 PM (dfRN6)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 04:06 PM (CYnTg)
Posted by: Thesokorus at October 15, 2021 04:06 PM (1ais2)
Seth Green doing the voice over while watching Jason Statham talk up some hottie, lol.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2021 04:07 PM (bDqIh)
Of the remakes, its no worse than the original in my mind, but I never thought that was a very good movie anyway. Way too weird 60s stylized.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021 04:07 PM (KZzsI)
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Which oddly enough was the theme of their wedding nights.
Posted by: Azathoth at October 15, 2021 04:07 PM (fkgvR)
Posted by: S'oothsay'er at October 15, 2021 04:08 PM (JI/0U)
Yes to the 1st marriage, no to the lesbian. She married an Aussi singer, Ben something.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 15, 2021 04:08 PM (bDqIh)
the key
to sounding
like mich'al caine
is to only say
two syllables
at a time
Posted by: ace at October 15, 2021 04:08 PM (0G13K)
I agree. They did a great job, and they brought out parts of the book that the other missed but... why? Did not need remaking.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2021
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A decent job it was. But the lack of color, actual on-screen color I mean, ruined it for me. Compare it to the JW 1969 version, and the former just bursts out at you, while the new version is cold and dreary. The contrast encapsulates the difference between movies now and those of 50-60 years back: H'wood has forgotten color.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 15, 2021 04:09 PM (/XOcP)
Posted by: irright at October 15, 2021 04:09 PM (SchQD)
Posted by: Justsayin' at October 15, 2021 04:09 PM (Fs5vw)
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The stores are not empty. Rather, they are full of Biden. Next up will be fully stocked propaganda stores that will ban """domestic terrorists""" from entering.
Posted by: LostInSpace at October 15, 2021 04:10 PM (ESLBo)
Posted by: pahound at October 15, 2021 04:10 PM (Crpt7)
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This is pretty true. I mean, it could have been a complete mess, but Bridges did a very fine job. It wasn't necessary to redo it. But, they didn't degrade the original unlike most remakes.
Posted by: Not Joe Bob Briggs at October 15, 2021 04:12 PM (IRuZ7)
Posted by: steevy at October 15, 2021 04:14 PM (CYnTg)
Hannibal Lecter led the First British into Arnhem. Moses Pray sends Johnny Hooker on a daylight bridge assault. James Bond is kinda' in charge, and kinda' not. Captain Ramsey leads the Polish Brigade - but he thinks the plan sucks. Mack and Hamm and a bunch more cartoons would like to know if they have more information about those boats.
Posted by: Working for Peanuts at October 15, 2021 04:14 PM (eBWUj)
**Flees**
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 15, 2021 04:04 PM (dfRN6)
Charlize Theron is acceptable
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at October 15, 2021 04:15 PM (BgMrQ)
I point out that if The Smart Military Blog eschews math, I can, too.
Posted by: Nancy Pelousi at October 15, 2021 04:19 PM (a3Q+t)
Oh, and Brandon plagiarized Build Back Better, too. The UN, WEF, and even Slick Willie used the term way before.
Posted by: Lola at October 15, 2021 04:58 PM (VQp1G)
I voted for Egg McMuffin (which I regret).
In 2020? Trump had 4 years; and they were not terrible years. Yeah, I voted for Trump in 2020.
Posted by: ertdfg at October 16, 2021 12:46 PM (I388C)
Posted by: FatAlbert at October 17, 2021 12:11 AM (KWbVO)
Mr. Nichol's real lament is that he rightly perceives that both sides of the political spectrum think he's full of crap.
Posted by: B Dubya at October 17, 2021 09:40 AM (aLpqZ)
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