Nancy Pelosi Signals Surrender on $3.5 Trillion Spending Plan; Will Reduce It to Appease Sinema and Manchin

The idea of reducing the number of years the budget covers has been proposed by the progressives before. This is a fake reduction of the spending amount -- instead of spending, say, $350 billion for ten years, they'll say they're spending $350 billion for seven years.

Net "savings"? Over a billion dollars.

That's obviously just an accounting trick.

But she now signals she might have to actually reduce some of the proposed trillions of welfare spending.

Why the shift? Probably one or more of three things:

1, Biden is losing support and needs something the media can call a "win." His handlers might have also realized that he's losing a lot of support with independents, and cannot afford continuing to side completely with The Squad on every issue.

2, Manchin and Sinema have signaled they are not backing down. Sinema, for example, seems no longer willing to even talk with Biden and Pelosi. She says she sometimes doesn't even bother returning the White House calls. So their Terror Campaign against her failed, and they now have to negotiate.

3, Charles Schumer attacked Republicans so nastily over their willingess to bail the Democrats out of their debt ceiling problem by punting the issue until December that Mitch McConnell declared that Republicans will offer no further help to Democrats, and that they'll have to raise the debt limit entirely by Democrat votes. This means the Democrats will need Manchin's and Sinema's vote for raising the debt limit -- and that further empowers them to demand concessions.

This is no great victory, though. The progressives set the idea of $3.5 trillion in new welfare (after trillions in covid related welfare spending). So now they'll back down to, say, $2.5 trillion.

That is still $2.5 trillion in new welfare spending, on top of the previous trillions.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says she's "very disappointed" Democrats are not sticking to the original $3.5 trillion price tag for their Build Back Better spending bill: "But whatever we do, we'll make decisions that will continue to be transformative" https://t.co/mtJYcMP4pW pic.twitter.com/23mRLtIpNB
— CBS News (@CBSNews) October 12, 2021

Posted by: Ace at 01:18 PM

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Posted by: RUReadingthis at October 12, 2021 12:18 PM (aQ25I)

2 SPONGE!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at October 12, 2021 12:18 PM (XvPQV)

3 I'll get them for just $1.2-trillion.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 12, 2021 12:19 PM (UHVv4)

4 damn, sorry Sponge

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at October 12, 2021 12:19 PM (XvPQV)

5 I'll get 'reduced' to just 3 Trillion.

A bargain!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at October 12, 2021 12:19 PM (XvPQV)

6 Yeah, you bastards were pretty successful in transforming the United States into a third world country. And in less than a year, to boot!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 12, 2021 12:19 PM (bkUtD)

7 Passenger "No Mandates" is paged at the Southwest desk at the San Diego airport. [andy: Noman Dates]
https://twitter.com/TheMarieOakes/status/
1447954554784518154

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 12, 2021 12:20 PM (UHVv4)

8 They need something before January so that Biden can tout it in his SotU.

We'll see if the Squad plays along. Right now there seems to be a three-way battle in the party between the Old Guard (Pelosi, Schumer), the Squad, and Manchin/Sinema, who are flexing their muscle.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 12, 2021 12:20 PM (jOcSX)

9 OK, big question:

What else winds up being 're-done' in the Bill besides the amount spent?

Do all the new regulatory bullshits stay in the bill, like the cryptocurrency regulations and tax regulations et cetera?

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Cryptid Anarchist at October 12, 2021 12:20 PM (DJd2D)

10 3, Charles Schumer attacked Republicans so nastily over their willingess to bail the Democrats out of their debt ceiling problem by punting the issue until December that Mitch McConnell declared that Republicans will offer no further help to Democrats, and that they'll have to raise the debt limit entirely by Democrat votes. This means the Democrats will need Manchin's and Sinema's vote for raising the debt limit -- and that further empowers them to demand concessions.

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And, of course, Mitch had said a few weeks ago that the debt limit was entirely a Democratic problem already.

And then he whipped to extend it by three months.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 12, 2021 12:20 PM (LvTSG)

11 If the $3.5 trillion was going to cost zero dollars, does that mean we'll have a surplus now?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at October 12, 2021 12:20 PM (/TTi/)

12 Ilhan Omar staffer makes a veiled threat against an independent Canadian journalist.

Michael Tracey; 2h
Strange behavior for Congressional staff
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/
1447927129371512852

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 12, 2021 12:20 PM (UHVv4)

13 Most people have no clue about any of this...like the 38% who approve of Biden's performance.

Posted by: BignJames at October 12, 2021 12:21 PM (AwYPR)

14 Liars, and probably pre-planned with Mitch and Kevvy

Posted by: CN at October 12, 2021 12:21 PM (ONvIw)

15 >>>They need something before January so that Biden can tout it in his SotU.

That will be the most entertaining SOTU in human history. Stuttering, drooling fool will make an ass out of himself again.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 12, 2021 12:21 PM (bkUtD)

16 Sigh. Remember when $2.5 trillion of additional spending when debt already exceeds GDP would be a non-starter?

It wasn't that long ago.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2021 12:21 PM (DU+/6)

17 Fuck Joe Biden, and fuck these FREAKS

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at October 12, 2021 12:21 PM (wAnMi)

18 Theater, theater,theater

Posted by: CN at October 12, 2021 12:21 PM (ONvIw)

19 Manu Raju sounds like a bad Indian Ragu knockoff.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 12, 2021 12:21 PM (QU5/8)

20 Willowed - on topic:

457 431 amusing - apparently Pelosi has admitted that the $3.5 trillion price tag is dead, it's gotta be cut. Now every moderately intelligent person already knew that, but the rad left in the House is throwing a fit. Question of the moment - will the rad left decide to make a show of their new found importance and decide to tank the entire bill, just to show Pelosi and Biden that they have to be dealt with? We can only hope!

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 12, 2021 12:12 PM (trdmm)

I am sure every Dem congresscritter is running into Nanzi's office to keep his/her personal pork barrel items from being cut. "Screw the social spending crap, Nancy! You need to keep my ghetto tree-planing program and my study of mating habits of Indonesian sand fleas in this bill!!!!!!"

Posted by: Gref at October 12, 2021 12:20 PM (AMIL/)

Posted by: Gref at October 12, 2021 12:21 PM (AMIL/)

21 And, of course, Mitch had said a few weeks ago that the debt limit was entirely a Democratic problem already.

And then he whipped to extend it by three months.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 12, 2021 12:20 PM (LvTSG)

My guess is that he was getting rumblings that a few GOP would jump ship, or was afraid that Manchin or Sinema would concede rather than endure hitting the debt limit. The longer this stretches on, the more nervous Dems seem to get about the whole $3.5 tn price tag.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 12, 2021 12:22 PM (jOcSX)

22 Let's go Brandon

Posted by: It's me donna at October 12, 2021 12:22 PM (RLGan)

23 They need something before January so that Biden can tout it in his SotU. ...
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 12, 2021 12:20 PM (jOcSX)
++++
I am embarrassed that I never considered that angle. I should have. You might be right, and they're racking up ruinous debt to pay off their cronies and themselves while accomplishing nothing just to provide a SOTU talking point.

I can think of nothing more crass or more realistic than this assessment.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2021 12:22 PM (DU+/6)

24 Sophie Zhang, a second Facebook "whistleblower," wants to testify before Congress to talk about "potential criminal violations" from the social media giant. When she was fired from Facebook last fall, she wrote a nearly 8,000 word memo accusing them of not censoring their platform enough. Like the last whistleblower, she is expected to call for more censorship. Zhang, a transgender woman, grew up in Michigan and is the daughter of parents who immigrated from China. The second Facebook whistleblower has come out and seeks to testify before Congress about the social media company's "potential criminal violations."

Posted by: SMOD at October 12, 2021 12:22 PM (RHGPo)

25 yeah, good for Sinema and Manchin on this. i'd like to off my support for Sinema, and any sorts of comforting she might need in this difficult time...

and as for manchin, after upchuck ticked him off so bad he left, in full view of the camera so it was bleeding obvious, i have to wonder if he's not SERIOUSLY considering changing sides...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at October 12, 2021 12:22 PM (8D42x)

26 21
My guess is that he was getting rumblings that a few GOP would jump ship, or was afraid that Manchin or Sinema would concede rather than endure hitting the debt limit. The longer this stretches on, the more nervous Dems seem to get about the whole $3.5 tn price tag.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 12, 2021 12:22 PM (jOcSX)

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So, his threat was empty before because he couldn't control his caucus. What makes his new threat any less empty? Can he suddenly control his caucus better now?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 12, 2021 12:23 PM (LvTSG)

27 Fuck Mush McConnell

Posted by: Fuck joe Biden at October 12, 2021 12:23 PM (YTBIQ)

28 That will be the most entertaining SOTU in human history. Stuttering, drooling fool will make an ass out of himself again.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 12, 2021 12:21 PM (bkUtD)

Nah, he'll be doped to the gills.

This is going to be his swan song. Expect him to disappear for the weeks prior, and the weeks after.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 12, 2021 12:23 PM (jOcSX)

29 Evil Bitch.

Saw a photo of her and the pretend pope together recently.

Demonic.

Posted by: Joe Mama at October 12, 2021 12:23 PM (WmGrA)

30 "actually cut some spending"

ace I know you didn't mean that in the way some might read it, and you clarified towards the end of the post that all of this is "no victory".

Meanwhile the Trump Anomaly (it increasingly appears that's all it was) looks more and more sadly a lonely outlier.

The level of "thinking" about politix and Beltway process remains so brain-dead, ignorant, and clueless that forcing the Dems to raise the debt ceiling by themselves is seen as *any* kind of political event, at all. (narrator: it isn't) 100 senators voting for the debt increase, or 51, makes no difference (nor probably should it) to 98% of voters, of all stripes. If they even hear of/understand what it is.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at October 12, 2021 12:23 PM (OTzUX)

31 Will Biden still claim this as *his* "Build Back Better Agenda" or is it now "Pelosi's Halfway Measure?"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2021 12:23 PM (DU+/6)

32 16 Sigh. Remember when $2.5 trillion of additional spending when debt already exceeds GDP would be a non-starter?

It wasn't that long ago.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2021 12:21 PM (DU+/6)

Obama's Porkulus was a tad under $900 billion.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 12, 2021 12:23 PM (CQcWG)

33 Pelosi and the "Pope" both good Catholics.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 12, 2021 12:23 PM (o2MD2)

34 It's nice to have the media on their side. How many stories have you read about the Americans still trapped in Afghanistan? Or the flooded southern border? It all went away.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 12, 2021 12:23 PM (bkUtD)

35 23 I am embarrassed that I never considered that angle. I should have. You might be right, and they're racking up ruinous debt to pay off their cronies and themselves while accomplishing nothing just to provide a SOTU talking point.

I can think of nothing more crass or more realistic than this assessment.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2021 12:22 PM (DU+/6)

=========

The 12 million people who will watch SOTU will be swayed remarkably by Biden stumbling through his list of things that the spending bill helped, surely.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 12, 2021 12:24 PM (LvTSG)

36 Manchin hasn't come off his $1.5 trillion cap. Of course it's too much, but the fun part will be watching whose programs get cut as they cut down the dollar amount. And Manchin and Sinema have both already said on the record they're not going for the stupid "lets cut down the number of years so it looks smaller" fakeout.

There is a real chance that The Squad will get so pissed off at this that they'll tank the entire bill just out of spite.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 12, 2021 12:24 PM (trdmm)

37 "Republicans pounce to redefine 'Infrastructure' to limit Democrat efforts on necessary projects". ~Brian "Tater" Stelter (probably)

Posted by: Flyguy at October 12, 2021 12:24 PM (3sOO0)

38 Leftists never surrender, they come back another day

Posted by: Skip's Phone at October 12, 2021 12:24 PM (Dn83Q)

39 36 Manchin hasn't come off his $1.5 trillion cap. Of course it's too much, but the fun part will be watching whose programs get cut as they cut down the dollar amount. And Manchin and Sinema have both already said on the record they're not going for the stupid "lets cut down the number of years so it looks smaller" fakeout.

There is a real chance that The Squad will get so pissed off at this that they'll tank the entire bill just out of spite.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 12, 2021 12:24 PM (trdmm)

===========

Fingers crossed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 12, 2021 12:24 PM (LvTSG)

40 Utopia Green New (Disney) World delayed -- because of those damn Republicans.

A fake meat chicken in every pot, an electric vehicle in every garage ... just be a good citizen and get it for free.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 12, 2021 12:25 PM (Cus5s)

41 Obama's Porkulus was a tad under $900 billion.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 12, 2021 12:23 PM (CQcWG)
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And the federal debt was well under 100% of GDP. And it nearly failed.

The first bailout *did* fail, until "Gentle Ben" Bernanke threatened the Congress with literal tanks in the streets if they didn't enable a Treasury backstop for the banks.

13 years. Not much time at all.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2021 12:25 PM (DU+/6)

42 >>>This is going to be his swan song. Expect him to disappear for the weeks prior, and the weeks after.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile

He's apparently taking every weekend in Delaware. Every one.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 12, 2021 12:25 PM (bkUtD)

43 Where are they getting all this money from? Are they printing it willy nilly?

Posted by: IC at October 12, 2021 12:25 PM (hV9ir)

44 So, his threat was empty before because he couldn't control his caucus. What makes his new threat any less empty? Can he suddenly control his caucus better now?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 12, 2021 12:23 PM (LvTSG)

Seen in this light, Grahamnesty's comment about his disappointment with the GOP Senate makes more sense.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 12, 2021 12:25 PM (CQcWG)

45 Sigh. Remember when $2.5 trillion of additional spending when debt already exceeds GDP would be a non-starter?

It wasn't that long ago.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2021 12:21 PM (DU+/6)

People have become desensitized to "trillion", as we knew they would. I can't fucking believe in just 10 years we went from billions to trillions, and people just think it's a different letter but basically the same. And suddenly, a "budget" over a trillion per year is no big deal. They're literally drunk teenagers with dad's credit cards.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at October 12, 2021 12:25 PM (wAnMi)

46 What, no Climate Corps? And I was ready to enlist.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 12, 2021 12:25 PM (UuD2k)

47 Meh, the country is toast -- bankrupt morally, intellectually, spiritually, courageously, economically, et. al.

They're just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic now as it sits at the bottom of the ocean waiting for Beijing to raise it in their own image.

Posted by: ShainS -- State-Stamped Sluggish Schizophrenic at October 12, 2021 12:25 PM (mZ3xv)

48 Sinema, for example, seems no longer willing to even talk with Biden and Pelosi. She says she sometimes doesn't even bother returning the White House calls.

They just need to deploy moar better bathroom assailants is all.

Posted by: kallisto at October 12, 2021 12:26 PM (DJFLF)

49 Whatever amount they get it will be cemented.

They'll get the rest soon enough.

It'll never be undone.

Posted by: I'll ruin the ending for you at October 12, 2021 12:26 PM (KgzRF)

50 What happened to the Kamala thread? She was going to come over and watch the video with me!

Posted by: Thirteen year old boy actor with tub of popcorn held suspiciously on his crotch at October 12, 2021 12:26 PM (Geoni)

51 Oh, anyone who thinks the Southwest CEO is a hero? The pilots union just filed a lawsuit against Southwest and the forced jab.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2021 12:26 PM (OCTRt)

52 Wasn't it that dipshit Yarmouth from Kentucky who famously said they'll keep printing money so they don't run out?

Or something to that effect. Stupid fucker.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 12, 2021 12:27 PM (BFigT)

53 Kyrsten Cinema is hot and has done more to save the republic than Paul Ryan did in his 20 years in the house.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 12, 2021 12:27 PM (8yGdD)

54 America That Was is never coming back. Pray for a peaceful divorce but I fear it will be bloody.

Posted by: Guzalot says FJB at October 12, 2021 12:27 PM (prSvo)

55 This very wealthy Communist woman, Ms. Pelosi, has my full support.

Posted by: Pope Commie-O at October 12, 2021 12:27 PM (sWM8x)

56 11 If the $3.5 trillion was going to cost zero dollars, does that mean we'll have a surplus now?
____________

We'll have a surplus of taxes, which will be passed on to consumers in the form of higher prices for everything you buy!

But we'll have more "free" college and "free" daycare and "free" phones (for drug dealers) and shit, so it's all good.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at October 12, 2021 12:27 PM (k4dH2)

57 Yarmuth... Yarmouth same thing.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 12, 2021 12:27 PM (BFigT)

58 Manchin hasn't come off his $1.5 trillion cap.
There is a real chance that The Squad will get so pissed off at this that they'll tank the entire bill just out of spite.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 12, 2021 12:24 PM (trdmm)

Fingers crossed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 12, 2021 12:24 PM (LvTSG)

Keep in mind, Ted Cruz has said that Manchin has never been the 51st vote on anything in the Senate.

Posted by: Deep State 910 at October 12, 2021 12:28 PM (HwtiA)

59 Let me tell you about a magical place. It's called space.

Posted by: Doug Henning at October 12, 2021 12:28 PM (2cfUo)

60 Nancy's power crumbling to dust (as her corpse will soon do) is a beautiful thing to watch.

Posted by: kathysaysso at October 12, 2021 12:28 PM (vkS2Z)

61 >>> Kyrsten Cinema is hot and has done more to save the republic than Paul Ryan did in his 20 years in the house.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

Fact check: Mostly true.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 12, 2021 12:28 PM (bkUtD)

62 Trump should loudly ask, "Why not a REAL budget, instead of this scam that's been running so long?"

Posted by: davidt at October 12, 2021 12:28 PM (L2a8p)

63 Even took off "indigenous people's day " too attend his nephew's wedding (to Jim Edmonds ex semi-celebrity wife).

Posted by: pahound at October 12, 2021 12:29 PM (xO0Lv)

64 49 Whatever amount they get it will be cemented.

They'll get the rest soon enough.

It'll never be undone.
Posted by: I'll ruin the ending for you at October 12, 2021 12:26 PM (KgzRF)

So true. Once the camel's nose is under the tent - even with a nominal amount of funding - the Dem/MSM machine will incessantly advocate for increased dollars down the road. It's never going to go away. Jeez - we still can't defund PBS after all these decades, for goodness sake.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 12, 2021 12:29 PM (CQcWG)

65 Ho man, that black chick teenager in the Kuala space vid is like "who bitch dis is?". Hilarious.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 12, 2021 12:29 PM (RoIW/)

66 Sigh. Remember when $2.5 trillion of additional spending when debt already exceeds GDP would be a non-starter?

It wasn't that long ago.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2021 12:21 PM (DU+/6)

------

I first noticed this in during Bubba's reign in the 90's. [Might have even been part of Dick Morris' "triangulation" strategy.]

Basically mimicking the Hegelian Dialectic. The Dems would always ask for far more than they really wanted, and with the spineless GOPee always willing to cave and compromise, would end up settling for something less -- but which would have originally seemed ridiculous.

Posted by: ShainS -- State-Stamped Sluggish Schizophrenic at October 12, 2021 12:29 PM (mZ3xv)

67 >This is going to be his swan song. Expect him to disappear for the weeks prior, and the weeks after.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile

He's apparently taking every weekend in Delaware. Every one.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp

Those fetal blood transfusions take time!

Posted by: Kermit Gosnell, IV tech at October 12, 2021 12:29 PM (WmGrA)

68 People have become desensitized to "trillion",

1 million seconds = 11 days
1 billion seconds = 31.5 years
1 trillion seconds = 31,688 years

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2021 12:30 PM (OCTRt)

69 Here is a dose of truth, which is an endangered species these days, and from a fukkin Brit, no less.

https://tinyurl.com/cj5y3946

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 12, 2021 12:30 PM (o2MD2)

70 Someone should bend Sinema over the podium and put her some knowledge.

Posted by: Capital Eff at October 12, 2021 12:30 PM (2xGy+)

71 And suddenly, a "budget" over a trillion per year is no big deal. They're literally drunk teenagers with dad's credit cards.
______________

And dad's cards have no limits, so we can spend as much as we want forever, and we never have to pay anything back!

Ain't life grand?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at October 12, 2021 12:30 PM (k4dH2)

72 Southwest has thrown away a lot of goodwill from the employees. The Frontiers of Flight Museum in Dallas has a nice southwest display. They have the Harley Davidson the employees gave Herb Kelleher after he retired. Imagine everyone chipping in to give the boss man a $30k bike. He was loved. This new guy sucks.

Posted by: Mishdog at October 12, 2021 12:30 PM (/VWLE)

73 Oh, anyone who thinks the Southwest CEO is a hero? The pilots union just filed a lawsuit against Southwest and the forced jab.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2021 12:26 PM (OCTRt)

Good. Hopefully the pilots for other airlines will do the same.

Posted by: Jordan61 at October 12, 2021 12:30 PM (Ez6QX)

74 They're just dumping money into circulation. As Venezuela or Zimbabwe how this works out.

Posted by: Guzalot says FJB at October 12, 2021 12:30 PM (prSvo)

75 This year's deficit is nearly $3 trillion.

Posted by: I mean at October 12, 2021 12:31 PM (+LyKe)

76 There's another factor (just as bad) besides the desire for an applause line in Biden's SOTU speech, and it is the growing fear about the midterm elections. Democrat consultants are telling them that the only way they can turn it around is to start showering free money on all of their "interest groups" who are becoming disenchanted. (like black voters, of course) So they're desperate to start pumping out as much free money as they can as quickly as possible, because they believe they'll buy votes that way.

They're wrong in almost every part of this estimation, but that doesn't stop them from believing it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 12, 2021 12:31 PM (trdmm)

77 Manchin's number is more along the lines of 1.5 trillion since he's wants notionally increased revenues (taxes) to match the spending and even with things like dynamic scoring and assumed better collection by the IRS (due to increased funding levels), it's tough to squeeze out much more than that without destroying yourself politically (i.e., substantially raising tax rates on nearly everyone not just billionaires). He could always cave in the end, but he certainly doesn't have to if he doesn't want to ... and if he wanted to, might as well done so before now.

Posted by: Match Checksout at October 12, 2021 12:31 PM (dYe5S)

78 A fake meat chicken in every pot, an electric vehicle in every garage ... just be a good citizen and get it for free.
Posted by: illiniwek at October 12, 2021 12:25 PM (Cus5s)

haven't you heard? they've moved on from that and are now into seafood.

ladies and gentlemen, i give you

Vrimp

the vegan shrimp substitute no one knew they wanted...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at October 12, 2021 12:31 PM (8D42x)

79 “Social justice requires that we self-moronize.”—Mark Steyn

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 12, 2021 12:31 PM (CX3cf)

80 They knocked a billion off the three trillion?

Posted by: Braenyard at October 12, 2021 12:31 PM (SnkBD)

81 Kamala always seems to have that "I need my tonsils massaged" look on her face.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 12, 2021 12:31 PM (o2MD2)

82 Seems like there's a lot of bickering ahead over shit that doesn't matter to most Americans. Meanwhile, fuel and food prices continue to rise.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at October 12, 2021 12:31 PM (uhPTO)

83 It's far worse than "de-sensitized". A working majority of people have no understanding of public finance, finance, economics, or how those intertwine with good governance, prosperity, and security.

To go along with their utter lack of comprehension of every other topic of consequence - unless it directly touches their lives or involves something they actually work on.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at October 12, 2021 12:32 PM (OTzUX)

84 It really doesn't matter at this point. The dam is breaking and what Capitol does is increasing irrelevant and divorced from reality.

Posted by: WiNO - Now Fortified with Fraud at October 12, 2021 12:32 PM (EpDzw)

85 We'll see if the Squad plays along. Right now there seems to be a three-way battle in the party between the Old Guard (Pelosi, Schumer), the Squad, and Manchin/Sinema, who are flexing their muscle.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 12, 2021 12:20 PM (jOcSX)

I keep wondering if the party fracture might do something similar in the media. Will they always carry water for the administration/old guard, or could they possibly follow their ideals? I know they'd never side with Manchin/Sinema, who are basically just soft-core socialists. I sure hope this wakes up the semi-sane democrats. It could happen.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at October 12, 2021 12:32 PM (wAnMi)

86 @53

>>Fact check: Mostly true.

The hot part is mosdef true...

https://tinyurl.com/jskw6p9r

And I am coming up with a complete blank on anything power glutes ever did that was conservative or conserved the republic.

At least Sinema seems to be principled whereas Eddie Munster was a liar and fraud.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 12, 2021 12:32 PM (8yGdD)

87 It's pretty much all monopoly money at this point anyway

Posted by: brak at October 12, 2021 12:32 PM (pMIS4)

88 This is still a huge loss for Pelosi *rolls around in it*.

Speaking of huge losses, I have never lost an argument about anything as hard as I've lost the argument about fiscal responsibility in government. Rand Paul and who else still even talks about it.

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at October 12, 2021 12:32 PM (mf5HN)

89 Brian: Well Horace, the major platforms of the two major parties in the current election differ markedly. What are they?

Horace: Well, the government thinks that the opposition, Brian, is profligate, incompetent and divided; and the opposition thinks that the government is divided, incompetent and profligate.

Brian: Correct.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2021 12:32 PM (DU+/6)

90
"That is still $2.5 trillion in new welfare spending, on top of the previous trillions."

But can't you think of the black people that Joe and the Democrats love so much?

I mean, that's where the money's going and not into the pockets of their families and other parasites.

LOL

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at October 12, 2021 12:32 PM (4WPW/)

91 POLITICO:

And with his father in office, Hunter Biden's activities no longer bear on an electoral choice between Biden and Trump. Instead, they threaten to complicate the White House's efforts to position Biden as a global anti-corruption crusader, along with its contention that "we have the highest ethical standards of any administration in history."

Posted by: SMOD at October 12, 2021 12:32 PM (RHGPo)

92 Pelosi is "very disappointed"? Her disappointment mirrors my own. The mere fact she is going to pass these bills is very sad.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 12, 2021 12:33 PM (K3WTO)

93 Smoke and mirrors and BS...

One day a real rain will come and wash Nancy and her saggy boobs away.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 12, 2021 12:33 PM (y7KuV)

94 Maybe Pelosi can ask the commie pope to sacrifice a virgin.

Posted by: Archer at October 12, 2021 12:33 PM (gmo/4)

95 So when the inevitable national divorce happens who gets stuck with the debt?

Posted by: Guzalot says FJB at October 12, 2021 12:33 PM (prSvo)

96 Yeah, if you can't trust Nancy Pelosi, who CAN you trust?

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at October 12, 2021 12:34 PM (O3En2)

97 the vegan shrimp substitute no one knew they wanted...
Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at October 12, 2021 12:31 PM (8D42x)

Not nearly as tasty as Vobster or Vrab...

Posted by: Boswell at October 12, 2021 12:34 PM (5iUNf)

98 Oh, anyone who thinks the Southwest CEO is a hero?

Did the CEO do something that people thought was heroic? Oh, I see. He said it ain’t his fault, and he’s going to enforce the non-law and hate doing it.

“This hurts me more than it hurts you.”

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 12, 2021 12:34 PM (CX3cf)

99 Harassing Sinema at the marathon only put more steel in her.

Manchin always folds.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 12, 2021 12:34 PM (SnkBD)

100 It's not just the accounting trick. Tell me an entitlement that comes to an end. Time limits are for us rubes. Only tax cuts have a time limit.

Posted by: JM in Florida - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at October 12, 2021 12:34 PM (HCeRP)

101 OT - (continued from last thread)

I hate that people think they have to justify why they got the shot. You got it because you thought the benefits were better than the risks, or you were forced to choose between being unemployable or employed.
Just remember who made you decide.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 12, 2021 12:34 PM (KbLYZ)

102 Kyrsten Cinema is hot and has done more to save the republic than Paul Ryan did in his 20 years in the house.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 12, 2021 12:27 PM (8yGdD)

yes, obviously

and also yes, but that's a REALLY low bar...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at October 12, 2021 12:34 PM (8D42x)

103 Here is a dose of truth, which is an endangered species these days, and from a fukkin Brit, no less.

https://tinyurl.com/cj5y3946
Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 12, 2021 12:30 PM (o2MD2)
++++
I think that is Daniel Hannen. He was a Euroskeptic MEP.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2021 12:34 PM (DU+/6)

104 Posted by: SMOD at October 12, 2021 12:32 PM (RHGPo)

Politico needs random drug screening.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 12, 2021 12:35 PM (UuD2k)

105 There's another factor (just as bad) besides the desire for an applause line in Biden's SOTU speech, and it is the growing fear about the midterm elections. Democrat consultants are telling them that the only way they can turn it around is to start showering free money on all of their "interest groups" who are becoming disenchanted. (like black voters, of course) So they're desperate to start pumping out as much free money as they can as quickly as possible, because they believe they'll buy votes that way.

They're wrong in almost every part of this estimation, but that doesn't stop them from believing it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 12, 2021 12:31 PM (trdmm)

It's not just an applause line. They need Biden gone so that they can try to staunch the bleeding. Passing the bill allows him to claim that his Build Back Better plan is working and that it's time to step aside and turn over the reins to Harris. The narrative will be that he successfully saved the country at a terrible cost to his health. If the bill fails, then Biden is seen as a failure, which not only makes it hard to get him to resign, but will tarnish the rest of the party.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 12, 2021 12:35 PM (jOcSX)

106 They'll spend whatever they want, and they'll spend it on whatever they want. 'Bills' and 'budgets' are performative bullshit.

Posted by: Flight Level gp Heavy Chop at October 12, 2021 12:35 PM (qpX6U)

107 willowed:

FUCKJOEBIDEN FUCKFAUCI FUCKIMDB
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at October 12, 2021 12:20 PM (wAnMi)

I think Amazon owns IMDB.
Posted by: Jordan61 at October 12, 2021 12:21 PM (Ez6QX)

You're right, they do. And I'll try to make that my last visit there. It already lost 80% of its appeal when they got rid of user comments. Hello? It's called the internet? I guess not anymore. Fucktards.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at October 12, 2021 12:35 PM (wAnMi)

108 " suddenly, a "budget" over a trillion per year is no big deal. They're literally drunk teenagers with dad's credit cards."

they are adding trillions to the debt, beyond what is already budgeted ... which already includes annual auto-increases. When they previously claimed to cut anything, it was an increase, but a little less than the planned increase. ...

And some of the emergency trillions, from what I read, are not even counted ... $5-7T to save the markets ... out of thin air? And we don't count ? $200+T in unfunded liabilities (unless maybe they can kill off those over 70 somehow)

Posted by: illiniwek at October 12, 2021 12:36 PM (Cus5s)

109 It'll never be undone.
Posted by: I'll ruin the ending for you at October 12, 2021 12:26 PM (KgzRF)

So true. Once the camel's nose is under the tent - even with a nominal amount of funding - the Dem/MSM machine will incessantly advocate for increased dollars down the road. It's never going to go away. Jeez - we still can't defund PBS after all these decades, for goodness sake.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 12, 2021 12:29 PM (CQcWG)

Oh it will be undone, but not politically - it will be undone by events. Inflation just seems bad, it's about to kick into overdrive; I was just looking at serious estimates of $200 per bbl oil in just 6 months. (double the previous record high)

The problem with printing "trillions" is that it all becomes worthless quickly, and thus does nothing except create chaos at all levels. What they're doing will be undone, but sadly the country will be wrecked in the process. I think we're already too far along for there to be any other endpoint.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 12, 2021 12:36 PM (trdmm)

110 Really did think the bathroom attack could go either way of her caving or holding fast

Posted by: Skip's Phone at October 12, 2021 12:36 PM (Dn83Q)

111 From all the darkness, a tiny sliver of light emerges:

Intel refuses to mandate jab to employees, forbids managers from even asking an employee if they got the jab:

https://tinyurl.com/yx566a2m

Posted by: kallisto at October 12, 2021 12:36 PM (DJFLF)

112 106. Has been for a while now

Posted by: CN at October 12, 2021 12:36 PM (ONvIw)

113 They already have a scallops substitute. They punch holes out of a stingray with a big hole puncher.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 12, 2021 12:36 PM (UuD2k)

114 It's not just the accounting trick. Tell me an entitlement that comes to an end. Time limits are for us rubes. Only tax cuts have a time limit.
Posted by: JM in Florida - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at October 12, 2021 12:34 PM (HCeRP)
=======================

Join us in repealing ObamaCare! This time we will get it done!

Posted by: House Republican Leader Lucy McCarthy at October 12, 2021 12:36 PM (K3WTO)

115 Hey Tall, Cool asshole in a black suit.

Fuck off.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 12, 2021 12:36 PM (RHMFE)

116 BetoMedia
@BetoMedia
1h
"If you want to debate, or argue, or fight, or FUCK with me on politics I'll take it all day long."

-Beto O'Rourke

https://tinyurl.com/3dvn2nsw

Posted by: redridinghood at October 12, 2021 12:37 PM (NpAcC)

117 Intel refuses to mandate jab to employees, forbids managers from even asking an employee if they got the jab:

https://tinyurl.com/yx566a2m
Posted by: kallisto at October 12, 2021 12:36 PM (DJFLF)
++++
Good for them. Intel, unlike most of Big Tech, still does manufacturing and still has a tangible product.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2021 12:37 PM (DU+/6)

118 Zhang, a ~~transgender woman~~ deranged faggot, grew up in Michigan and is the daughter of parents who immigrated from China. The second Facebook whistleblower has come out and seeks to testify before Congress about the social media company's "potential criminal violations."
Posted by: SMOD at October 12, 2021 12:22 PM (RHGPo)

FIFY

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 12, 2021 12:37 PM (0/GV5)

119 Posted by: Skip's Phone at October 12, 2021 12:36 PM (Dn83Q)

It's like the ladies don't like to be harassed.

Remember when Susan Collins was getting bullied over the Kavanaugh appointment? She didn't cave.

Women don't like anyone to think that they are the boss of them. If that makes any sense.

Posted by: kallisto at October 12, 2021 12:37 PM (DJFLF)

120 Yipee! It's snowing in Rapid City, SD

Posted by: Archer at October 12, 2021 12:37 PM (gmo/4)

121 Politico needs random drug screening.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 12, 2021 12:35 PM (UuD2k)

In a sane world, congress would have random drug screening, along with the executive branch, SCOTUS and all federal workers for that matter. DC would be an instant ghost town.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at October 12, 2021 12:38 PM (wAnMi)

122 POLITICO:

And with his father in office, Hunter Biden's activities no longer bear on an electoral choice between Biden and Trump. Instead, they threaten to complicate the White House's efforts to position Biden as a global anti-corruption crusader, along with its contention that "we have the highest ethical standards of any administration in history."
Posted by: SMOD at October 12, 2021 12:32 PM (RHGPo)

And there it is. All this is designed to slowly remove Dem support for Biden, making it easier to force him to retire.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 12, 2021 12:38 PM (jOcSX)

123 If the bill fails, then Biden is seen as a failure, which not only makes it hard to get him to resign, but will tarnish the rest of the party.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 12, 2021 12:35 PM (jOcSX)

Sometimes snowballs start rolling downhill and they can't be stopped, even though everyone involved knows that they should be.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 12, 2021 12:38 PM (trdmm)

124 116 BetoMedia
@BetoMedia
1h
"If you want to debate, or argue, or fight, or FUCK with me on politics I'll take it all day long."

-Beto O'Rourke

https://tinyurl.com/3dvn2nsw
Posted by: redridinghood at October 12, 2021 12:37 PM (NpAcC)

What a perv.

Posted by: IC at October 12, 2021 12:38 PM (hV9ir)

125 Chuck Schumer is a faggoty ass pussy!

Posted by: Jon Gruden at October 12, 2021 12:39 PM (kTF2Z)

126 ALT Nancy :

We'll just have to Fake the Votes we won't be able to Buy.

Posted by: garrett at October 12, 2021 12:39 PM (SVo5m)

127 Republicans, with House, Senate and Presidency: Here's a temporary tax cut that only applies to .01% of the population, best we can do.

Democrats, with House, Senate and Presidency: Here's everything we could possibly dream of, plus a few things for shits-n-giggles!!

Posted by: Lrrr at October 12, 2021 12:39 PM (jIL4c)

128 Charles Schumer attacked Republicans so nastily...that Mitch McConnell declared that Republicans will offer no further help to Democrats[/i

Yeah, I believe every word of that, Mitch.

Posted by: t-bird at October 12, 2021 12:39 PM (1vynn)

129
Amount appropriated: $1.5 trillion

Amount reaching end users: $0.87

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 12, 2021 12:39 PM (/U27+)

130 The world is screwed. The U.S. cannot afford its spending obligations without inflation to increase tax revenues with serious COLA lag on the entitlements.

But the pols at the trough have grown the debt so big that they can't afford to service it if the feds raise interest rates by much at all.

I suppose they'll hope that companies are forced to raise wages and prices without a federal interest rate increase, and they'll probably raise tax rates as well, ignoring the fact that people will reach a point of "screw this, I'm not going to bust my ass for uncle Sam to take such a big slice to give to the people they encourage to by layabouts with excessively generous welfare programs"

I wonder if we reach a point of selling Guam and American Samoa to the CCP? and swaths of federal land to individuals?

Posted by: PaleRider is simply Irredeemable at October 12, 2021 12:39 PM (pxVvf)

131 O/T: Just got THE e-mail from my company. Money graf:

we are strongly encouraging employees to receive the COVID-19 vaccination to minimize the risk of infectious disease in our workplace. We must also address Executive Orders and clients who are mandating that all of our employees in their workplace be vaccinated against the COVID-19 virus.

I e-mailed my supervisor and repeated that I was not getting the shot, and there are no Executive Orders from the scumbag in the WH. She says that she, too, is not getting the shot (which is a surprise to me), which will leave the company with only 1 transcriptionist to handle the work of 3.

I'm fortunate in that I can afford to leave. Something has got to give soon.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 12, 2021 12:39 PM (2JVJo)

132 the vegan shrimp substitute no one knew they wanted...
Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at October 12, 2021 12:31 PM (8D42x)

Not nearly as tasty as Vobster or Vrab...
Posted by: Boswell at October 12, 2021 12:34 PM (5iUNf)

the Cajun Krab dip is the best tho...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at October 12, 2021 12:39 PM (8D42x)

133 120 Yipee! It's snowing in Rapid City, SD

Posted by: Archer at October 12, 2021 12:37 PM (gmo/4)

See, that PROVES Global Warming is real! Because Global Warming is tricksy that way!

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 12, 2021 12:40 PM (trdmm)

134 The "mandate" is so much horseshit. A "mandate" that's not even written for a "vaccine" that isn't even approved. The only vaccine that is fully approved by the FDA is only available in Israel.

Posted by: pahound at October 12, 2021 12:40 PM (xO0Lv)

135
Graft is infrastructure!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 12, 2021 12:40 PM (/U27+)

136 Beto seems like that kid in school that always had his mouth open. Even with it was cold and his nose was running. With snot dribbling down into his constantly open mouth.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 12, 2021 12:40 PM (UuD2k)

137 Here is a dose of truth, which is an endangered species these days, and from a fukkin Brit, no less.

https://tinyurl.com/cj5y3946
Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 12, 2021 12:30 PM (o2MD2)
++++
I think that is Daniel Hannen. He was a Euroskeptic MEP.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2021 12:34 PM (DU+/6)

Nah, Dan Hannan is younger and skinnier.
I miss him.
Dunno who that guy is but he understands addition and subtraction at least.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at October 12, 2021 12:40 PM (XvPQV)

138 A fake meat chicken in every pot, an electric vehicle in every garage ... just be a good citizen and get it for free

An Impossible Chicken in every pot. That sounds about right for this administration.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 12, 2021 12:41 PM (QU5/8)

139 In an ideal world, the answer will be "You will nothing and you will like it."

Posted by: NR Pax at October 12, 2021 12:41 PM (4olE8)

140 Yeah, no offense intended, but I would not get too excited that the Dems are in trouble. We all know that it will eventually be 2 trillion? 3? That much of what we will be spending on supposed infrastructure, will just be ways to shore up the Dem party. Like voting bs, covid/vax/healthcare bs, student loan forgiveness programs, etc. That JFK airport, for example, will still look like a third world airport. Trump explained all this in the art of the deal, which I did not yet read. You ask for 5 trillion, and then accept 3.

Posted by: MikeM at October 12, 2021 12:41 PM (5Y7fX)

141 If dems don't get happy...they will punish us and start WWIII just as a diversion.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 12, 2021 12:41 PM (IMmgC)

142 Not nearly as tasty as Vobster or Vrab...
-------------------------------
How about Loobster(c) and Bef(c)??
-- Norm from Cheers

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 12, 2021 12:41 PM (UHVv4)

143 He's apparently taking every weekend in Delaware. Every one.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp

Those fetal blood transfusions take time!
Posted by: Kermit Gosnell, IV tech at October 12, 2021 12:29 PM (WmGrA)

someone needs to tow Delaware out to sea, and scuttle it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 12, 2021 12:41 PM (0/GV5)

144 Is Vork vegan pork or german fork?

Posted by: The Galactic Alien Council at October 12, 2021 12:42 PM (MH0eD)

145 BetoMedia
@BetoMedia
1h
"If you want to debate, or argue, or fight, or FUCK with me on politics I'll take it all day long."

-Beto O'Rourke

https://tinyurl.com/3dvn2nsw

Posted by: redridinghood at October 12, 2021 12:37 PM (NpAcC)

At least until Twitter suspends you, prole.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at October 12, 2021 12:42 PM (uhPTO)

146 @BetoMedia
"If you want to debate, or argue, or fight, or FUCK with me on politics I'll take it all day long."
Posted by: redridinghood at October 12, 2021 12:37 PM (NpAcC)
++++
Robert Francis O'Rourke is a government official. He's in Biden's shadow government.

I was promised no more mean tweets. With mean tweets coming from the government, the massive inflation, unemployment, economic stagnation, foreign policy debacles, energy crises, military defeats and domestic totalitarianism are no longer worth it...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2021 12:43 PM (DU+/6)

147 Yipee! It's snowing in Rapid City, SD

Posted by: Archer at October 12, 2021 12:37 PM (gmo/4)

You lucky monkey...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at October 12, 2021 12:43 PM (XvPQV)

148 They need to add back in the provision where Krysten Sinema sits on my face.

Posted by: milfy milkers jugs fan at October 12, 2021 12:43 PM (CNcX2)

149 I wonder if we reach a point of selling Guam and American Samoa to the CCP? and swaths of federal land to individuals?
Posted by: PaleRider

Last person off Guam, please tip it over.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2021 12:43 PM (OCTRt)

150 67 >This is going to be his swan song. Expect him to disappear for the weeks prior, and the weeks after.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile

He's apparently taking every weekend in Delaware. Every one.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp

Those fetal blood transfusions take time!

Posted by: Kermit Gosnell, IV tech at October 12, 2021 12:29 PM (WmGrA)

Not to mention nobody is tracking his visitors while away from the WH.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed - FJB at October 12, 2021 12:44 PM (N39Ws)

151 120 Yipee! It's snowing in Rapid City, SD

Posted by: Archer at October 12, 2021 12:37 PM (gmo/4)

High winds and fallow fields due to drought, here in Central Calif.

My swimming pool has actual MUD in it, so much dirt blew in over the last 36 hours.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2021 12:44 PM (oHd/0)

152 Charles Schumer attacked Republicans so nastily over their willingess to bail the Democrats out of their debt ceiling problem by punting the issue until December that Mitch McConnell declared...

What did that dunce McConnell think would happen? Chuck and the D's would be grateful?
Masters are not grateful at the duties performed by their "help".
Clue number 13,674 that crossing the aisle or considering them countrymen instead of enemies is a fools errand. Yet as always, Mitch and the GOP remain clueless.
If only We the People had an opposition party.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 12, 2021 12:45 PM (MFphb)

153 At this point, even the milk carton that had the "Have You Seen Me?" of the Congressional Republicans has gone missing ...

The GOP are so invisible in all this, scientists are convening to determine how to update the laws of physics to account for it ...

Posted by: Lrrr at October 12, 2021 12:45 PM (jIL4c)

154 I wonder if we reach a point of selling Guam and American Samoa to the CCP? and swaths of federal land to individuals?
Posted by: PaleRider

Sell it? Why? China can just take them. Who is going to stop them? Milley's military?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed - FJB at October 12, 2021 12:45 PM (N39Ws)

155 Yipee! It's snowing in Rapid City, SD

Posted by: Archer at October 12, 2021 12:37 PM (gmo/4)

You lucky monkey...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards,

That means deer for deer season will be up and moving around. Ours are still lounging around the pool.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2021 12:45 PM (OCTRt)

156 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 12, 2021 12:39 PM (2JVJo)

MP4, don't you work from home? Which makes a mandate for you doubly stupid.

Posted by: Jordan61 at October 12, 2021 12:45 PM (Ez6QX)

157 The problem with printing "trillions" is that it all becomes worthless quickly, and thus does nothing except create chaos at all levels. What they're doing will be undone, but sadly the country will be wrecked in the process. I think we're already too far along for there to be any other endpoint.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 12, 2021 12:36 PM (trdmm)

Concur. We are living on borrowed time.

Tick tock.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 12, 2021 12:45 PM (y7KuV)

158 "My swimming pool has actual MUD in it, so much dirt blew in over the last 36 hours."

Luxury!

Posted by: the sow at October 12, 2021 12:46 PM (aAP3z)

159 Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2021 12:26 PM (OCTRt)

CEO never retracted the mandate, he's just jawing about being forced by Bidet. Seems like he's willing to meet the "hesitant" half-way, but good for the pilots as they file the lawsuit.

Somewhere, somehow, one of these lawsuits will stick.

Posted by: kallisto at October 12, 2021 12:46 PM (DJFLF)

160 Yipee! It's snowing in Rapid City, SD

Posted by: Archer at October 12, 2021 12:37 PM (gmo/4)

You lucky monkey...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at October 12, 2021 12:43 PM (XvPQV)

You can come visit me. We're supposed to get snow tomorrow.

Posted by: Jordan61 at October 12, 2021 12:46 PM (Ez6QX)

161 They already have a scallops substitute. They punch holes out of a stingray with a big hole puncher.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 12, 2021 12:36 PM (UuD2k)

Or a skate. yes there is flatfish called a skate, related to sharks.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 12, 2021 12:46 PM (0/GV5)

162 I foresee another 2am vote on Christmas morning.

Posted by: Justsayin' at October 12, 2021 12:46 PM (Fs5vw)

163 Romeo we have declared your swimming pool a protected waterway. You are not allowed to clean out that mud or use pool chemicals anymore as this will disturb the birds that may decide to use your cement pond.

Posted by: The EPA at October 12, 2021 12:46 PM (pxVvf)

164 They are getting about 40" of snow in the mountains to the south of me right now.

I was biking there last week. It was 70 degrees...

Under 2 feet of snow now.

Posted by: garrett at October 12, 2021 12:47 PM (SVo5m)

165 Yeah, you bastards were pretty successful in transforming the United States into a third world country. And in less than a year, to boot!
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 12, 2021 12:19 PM (bkUtD).

That, my friend, is their immigration policy in the long run.
Make the USA into just another turd-world shithole and they'll stop coming here.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 12, 2021 12:47 PM (MFphb)

166 Wasn't there some nonsense in this bill allowing the govt to track motor vehicle usage and tax the operator?

Posted by: Orson at October 12, 2021 12:47 PM (cLnsR)

167 Asked my barber today if she's seen the fake office sets that Biden uses now for broadcasts. Nope. Guess it hasn't been reported widely. I don't think she believed me.

Posted by: Flight Level gp Heavy Chop at October 12, 2021 12:47 PM (qpX6U)

168 My swimming pool has actual MUD in it, so much dirt blew in over the last 36 hours.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2021 12:44 PM (oHd/0)

Heh. Quite damp here. Fruit trees breaking the limbs, Acorns falling out of the trees and covering the ground, the damn deer are so fucking fat they need to get some jenny Craig.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 12, 2021 12:47 PM (o2MD2)

169 Where are they getting all this money from? Are they printing it willy nilly?
Posted by: IC at October 12, 2021 12:25 PM (hV9ir)

Fiat currency, they don't even print it any more, they just state it is allowed to be more. Officially we borrow it, but we appear to borrow it from ourselves and then sell the debt as treasuries.
Think of how they handled mortgages in 2007?

Posted by: Kindltot at October 12, 2021 12:47 PM (KbLYZ)

170 You can come visit me. We're supposed to get snow tomorrow.
Posted by: Jordan61 at October 12, 2021 12:46 PM (Ez6QX)

It is about time for one last road trip before hwy 20 shuts down again

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at October 12, 2021 12:47 PM (XvPQV)

171 I wonder if we reach a point of selling Guam and American Samoa to the CCP? and swaths of federal land to individuals? Posted by: PaleRider is simply Irredeemable at October 12, 2021 12:39 PM (pxVvf)

It would be relatively simple to sell the $1 trillion+ student loan portfolio and get government out of the student lending business.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 12, 2021 12:47 PM (BMmaB)

172 Here is a dose of truth, which is an endangered species these days, and from a fukkin Brit, no less.

https://tinyurl.com/cj5y3946

He worked "moderately hard" during his life and was frugal, and yet he thought that yellow suit was a good purchase.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 12, 2021 12:47 PM (QU5/8)

173 adjusted for inflation, the previous high for oil was $175.

They used to say $100/brl was the point that high oil cost kills the economy. ... $45 gave it wings. But "electricity costs must necessarily skyrocket" (Obama) to force green tech dreams (and to kill of USA liberty).

Posted by: illiniwek at October 12, 2021 12:47 PM (Cus5s)

174 I wonder if we reach a point of selling Guam and American Samoa to the CCP? and swaths of federal land to individuals?
Posted by: PaleRider
- - - - - - - - -

I think the CCP is almost a financially fucked as the USA, they just hide it better.

Posted by: Guzalot says FJB at October 12, 2021 12:47 PM (prSvo)

175 The aphorism comparing arguments on the internet to the Special Olympics goes triple where Beth O'Rourke is involved.

Posted by: Brother Tim at October 12, 2021 12:48 PM (Nv+9A)

176 CEO never retracted the mandate, he's just jawing about being forced by Bidet. Seems like he's willing to meet the "hesitant" half-way, but good for the pilots as they file the lawsuit.

Somewhere, somehow, one of these lawsuits will stick.
Posted by: kallisto at October 12, 2021 12:46 PM (DJFLF)

Some Judges are already ruling in favor of the jab, even though only ONE of the shots has been approved. I guess that the written law, and Constitution, is now moot.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2021 12:48 PM (oHd/0)

177 He's apparently taking every weekend in Delaware. Every one.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp

Because nobody has to sign the White Basement guest list.

Posted by: t-bird at October 12, 2021 12:48 PM (9Fwwf)

178 Wasn't there some nonsense in this bill allowing the govt to track motor vehicle usage and tax the operator?
Posted by: Orson at October 12, 2021 12:47 PM (cLnsR)

i thought it was a breathalizer in every new car?

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at October 12, 2021 12:48 PM (8D42x)

179 oil prices
https://tinyurl.com/4dj92jke

Posted by: illiniwek at October 12, 2021 12:48 PM (Cus5s)

180 That, my friend, is their immigration policy in the long run.
Make the USA into just another turd-world shithole and they'll stop coming here.
Posted by: OneEyedJack

Shoot them as they cross illegally and they'll stop.
Bonus - you don't have to destroy the country in the process.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2021 12:48 PM (OCTRt)

181 98 "This hurts me more than it hurts you."
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 12, 2021 12:34 PM

Ironically, that statement may turn out to be true as his company tanks and he loses his job. I bet he earns a lot more than any individual pilot.

Posted by: That Guy at October 12, 2021 12:48 PM (Oizsv)

182 Beto not Beth. Stupid autocucumber.

Posted by: Brother Tim at October 12, 2021 12:49 PM (Nv+9A)

183 Or a skate. yes there is flatfish called a skate, related to sharks.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 12, 2021 12:46 PM

Mmmm...skate. I love that stuff. Still pretty cheap, too. The idiot foodies haven't discovered it yet.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 12, 2021 12:49 PM (m+jkK)

184 Why don't they just murder their opponents? Just gun them down in a restroom stall.

Posted by: torabora at October 12, 2021 12:49 PM (J0WdG)

185 111 From all the darkness, a tiny sliver of light emerges:

Intel refuses to mandate jab to employees, forbids managers from even asking an employee if they got the jab:

https://tinyurl.com/yx566a2m
Posted by: kallisto at October 12, 2021 12:36 PM (DJFLF)
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Read that brokerage houses are also keeping mum.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 12, 2021 12:49 PM (SnkBD)

186 The Kabuki Show is just changing venue. Same crap, just shorter time to say they reduced it. I suspect all the things they want will still be there, but Sin and Chin can then claim victory for their next election.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 12, 2021 12:49 PM (r5BVk)

187 >>Shoot them as they cross illegally and they'll stop.

Yep.

A Free Fire Zone would fix it in about 24 hours.

Posted by: garrett at October 12, 2021 12:49 PM (SVo5m)

188 "I wonder if we reach a point of selling Guam and American Samoa to the CCP? and swaths of federal land to individuals?"

They're not going to pay for stuff that's going to fall in their laps for free eventually.

Posted by: Flight Level gp Heavy Chop at October 12, 2021 12:49 PM (qpX6U)

189 153 At this point, even the milk carton that had the "Have You Seen Me?" of the Congressional Republicans has gone missing ...

The GOP are so invisible in all this, scientists are convening to determine how to update the laws of physics to account for it ...
Posted by: Lrrr at October 12, 2021 12:45 PM (jIL4c)

given that everything they do is at best annoying and at worst self defeating, having them all do absolutely nothing at all may be the best option.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 12, 2021 12:50 PM (trdmm)

190 [sips cup o' joe]

Posted by: King Harv at October 12, 2021 12:50 PM (8u/ei)

191 The problem with printing "trillions" is that it all becomes worthless quickly, and thus does nothing except create chaos at all levels.
----
Cryptocurrecy is risky cause it's all digital.

And all the "money" in your bank account is just pixels on a screen ...

Posted by: Lrrr at October 12, 2021 12:50 PM (jIL4c)

192 178 Wasn't there some nonsense in this bill allowing the govt to track motor vehicle usage and tax the operator?
Posted by: Orson at October 12, 2021 12:47 PM (cLnsR)

i thought it was a breathalizer in every new car?
Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at October 12, 2021 12:48 PM (8D42x)

Yes and yes

Posted by: blaster at October 12, 2021 12:50 PM (mbFEM)

193 Gutfeld was talking about that the other night. Hunter's got some 'racist' comments in his emails, but he gets a free pass because he does cocaine, hires hookers and sells out to China.

Posted by: SMOD at October 12, 2021 12:50 PM (RHGPo)

194 Holy crap. It is like they had a crystal ball:

https://youtu.be/E18ElOoq0QY

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2021 12:50 PM (DU+/6)

195 A working majority of people have no understanding of public finance, finance, economics, or how those intertwine with good governance, prosperity, and security.

*****

Or even numbers.

Example: My local TV news had a story about the county budget for 2022, at $230,000,000. This is an increase of some $44,000,000 over 2021. But the report said $230,000. An increase of $44,000.

As nearly as I can tell, they "rounded off" both numbers by dropping the last three zeros.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 12, 2021 12:50 PM (5Woea)

196 163 Romeo we have declared your swimming pool a protected waterway. You are not allowed to clean out that mud or use pool chemicals anymore as this will disturb the birds that may decide to use your cement pond.

Posted by: The EPA at October 12, 2021 12:46 PM (pxVvf)

LOL, I do periodically find my neighbors pet Turtle in the pool.... oh crap!

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2021 12:50 PM (oHd/0)

197 Why don't they just murder their opponents? Just gun them down in a restroom stall.
Posted by: torabora at October 12, 2021 12:49 PM (J0WdG)

give it time. i think the bill has to fail first, THEN they'll recruit some leftist and have the FIB run him and stop him AFTER the killing...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at October 12, 2021 12:51 PM (8D42x)

198 115 Hey Tall, Cool asshole in a black suit.

Fuck off.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 12, 2021 12:36 PM (RHMFE)
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He's blown his cover and won't be around much longer.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 12, 2021 12:51 PM (SnkBD)

199 123 If the bill fails, then Biden is seen as a failure, which not only makes it hard to get him to resign, but will tarnish the rest of the party.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 12, 2021 12:35 PM (jOcSX)

Sometimes snowballs start rolling downhill and they can't be stopped, even though everyone involved knows that they should be.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 12, 2021 12:38 PM (trdmm)

I hope you are right. But how does any group of Democrats get Joe to resign? Telling Joe he needs to resign for the good of the Party in the '22 mid-terms will not budge him an inch, IMHO. Even Nanzi and Chuckles publicly saying he needs to resign would only drive him deeper into seclusion from the press, and give Peppermint Patty Psaki the opportunity to set a new personal record for biggest lie.

Posted by: Gref at October 12, 2021 12:51 PM (AMIL/)

200 You know the deus ex machina I keep thinking about? Vermont. Two octogenarian senators, one of whom (Bernie) has already had a heart attack and the other (Leahy) has been in the Senate longer than any other Senator. Republican governor. He has to hold a special election to fill the seat within 6 months, but he can appoint a Republican in the meantime.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 12, 2021 12:51 PM (BMmaB)

201 "Why don't they just murder their opponents?"

That's what BLM and Antifa are for.

Posted by: Flight Level gp Heavy Chop at October 12, 2021 12:51 PM (qpX6U)

202 The real problem here isn't the funny money spending, it's how they stuff all kinds of new regulations and restrictions in a bill for spending so that noone even hears about what ridiculous banning of this or mandating of that comes next. How many of you know that the car refrigerant R-134 has now been deemed "unsafe for the environment" and will have production stopped? I am sure it's just a coincidence that the patent on it is about to expire. Remember how the horrible ozone hole that would give us all cancer and not close for 200 years made it a national crisis that the patent expiring R-12 had to be replaced? BTW the hole closed up. Apparently they hadn't been taking readings long enough to know that it opens and closes naturally yet. Very little coverage of that.

Posted by: Azjaeger at October 12, 2021 12:51 PM (3/XaG)

203 195
Example: My local TV news had a story about the county budget for 2022, at $230,000,000. This is an increase of some $44,000,000 over 2021. But the report said $230,000. An increase of $44,000.

As nearly as I can tell, they "rounded off" both numbers by dropping the last three zeros.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 12, 2021 12:50 PM (5Woea)

========

"Go fuck yourself, San Diego."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 12, 2021 12:52 PM (LvTSG)

204 Well my thinking is sell off U.S. Islands while Japan or China or someone might still buy them rather than just seize them. I'm sure doing such would break all kinds of laws. But the commiecrats are in power so they don't have to worry about laws.

Posted by: PaleRider, wrecker, vaccine resister at October 12, 2021 12:52 PM (pxVvf)

205 Tech in the USA has the mindset of Mexican drug cartels.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 12, 2021 12:52 PM (IMmgC)

206 1 billion seconds = 31.5 years

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2021 12:30 PM (OCTR

Human says, "Lemme think a second"
Nanosecond Skynet says, "Yeah. Waiting...seems like 31 years..."

Posted by: JM in Florida - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at October 12, 2021 12:52 PM (HCeRP)

207 Also, as I have been taught how to DOOM, and have been a cynic for a while, I have been cautioning against putting too much hope into Manchin/Sinema. Manchin put his ceiling at 1.5T, so if they appease HIM then the spending bill is only 1.5T on top of 1.5T. ONLY.

So sounds like they are going to meet in the middle at 2.5.

Full of win!

Posted by: blaster at October 12, 2021 12:52 PM (mbFEM)

208 So if I follow Senator Feinstein into the ladies room and yell at her that's she's a nasty girl while pissing that's okay. Amirite?

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 12, 2021 12:52 PM (yRved)

209 >>>>Women don't like anyone to think that they are the boss of them. If that makes any sense.
Posted by: kallisto at October 12, 2021 12:37 PM (DJFLF)
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Except their husband.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 12, 2021 12:53 PM (SnkBD)

210 Cryptocurrecy is risky cause it's all digital.

And all the "money" in your bank account is just pixels on a screen ...
Posted by: Lrrr

Annnnnd we are back to why gold has held it's value as a trading medium for 5,000 years.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2021 12:53 PM (OCTRt)

211 People have become desensitized to "trillion", as we knew they would. I can't fucking believe in just 10 years we went from billions to trillions, and people just think it's a different letter but basically the same. And suddenly, a "budget" over a trillion per year is no big deal. They're literally drunk teenagers with dad's credit cards.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at October 12, 2021 12:25 PM (wAnMi)
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Ask a liberal how many zeroes there are in 1 trillion.

Hilarity ensues.

Fun fact: you'd have to spend over $1 million PER DAY for every day since Jesus's crucifixion to get to $1 trillion.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 12, 2021 12:53 PM (YqDXo)

212 Another trick here is that the years don't matter. Implement Universal Pre-K or Free college for 2 years and its there forever, as Democrats (and many Republicans) will claim that once it's there it must be funded forever, and others will be too afraid to defund it.

It's another area where the GOP sucks, all Dem programs must remain forever, while Dems gut anything the GOP championed the second they get power.

Posted by: Rbastid at October 12, 2021 12:53 PM (qBzeJ)

213 208 So if I follow Senator Feinstein into the ladies room and yell at her that's she's a nasty girl while pissing that's okay. Amirite?

I have the weirdest boner right now

Posted by: Doug Henning at October 12, 2021 12:53 PM (2cfUo)

214 >>Gutfeld was talking about that the other night. Hunter's got some 'racist' comments in his emails, but he gets a free pass because he does cocaine, hires hookers and sells out to China.

Listen Fat.
Hunter is the smartest person I know...
Any one of us...
ANYONE.
Of us.
*Whispers*
We would walk a mile for VERTICAL smile, Pal. a MILE.

Not for that sideways shit.
It didn't play with CornPop and it don't play with us.

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 12, 2021 12:53 PM (SVo5m)

215 disclose tv; 8h
JUST IN -- Taiwan is part of China, says Russian FM Lavrov
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MORE -- Moscow not ruling out the temporary shutdown of all US, Russian diplomatic missions says Russian Deputy FM Ryabkov.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 12, 2021 12:53 PM (UHVv4)

216 I've never been in favor of corporations imposing that kind of a mandate. I'm not in favor that. Never have been," Kelly told "Squawk on the Street," adding "But the executive order from President Biden mandates that all federal employees and then all federal contractors, which covers all the major airlines, have to have a [vaccine] mandate ... in place by December the 8th, so we're working through that."

Bullshit. If you really felt that way, you would fight the mandate, not Abbott and your employees. Fucktwit is trying to screw his employees while acting as if he is on their side. This is the type of leadership the military had.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 12, 2021 12:54 PM (0ryfU)

217 Please don't get all in about the price tag. That is a part of the bill but not the most important part by any means. It is the straight out communism and big government that is the worse part of the bill. Fighting over the price is just communist slight of hand. Look over here while we really screw the country PERMANENTLY.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at October 12, 2021 12:54 PM (iDcra)

218 One of the worst tricks they play is to give $ to their political operatives under the guise of "helping others." So, give-or-take a trillion here or there, I'm sure they've massively funded the next generation of commie community organizers up the wazoo, with specific emphasis on "get out the (fraud) vote."

Posted by: Zek's Covid Recovered Ass at October 12, 2021 12:54 PM (OzNIz)

219 If they are sunset then they would have to be proactively reinstituted to continue. Cutting is not necessary. So if they get it it will be republicans fault if they get extended. While they are at it, cut the rest of the shit out. Balance the budget while you've still got a chance to do it the hard way. The easy way is have interest rates explode due to inflation and have the whole economy collapse, fkkihn idiots. I'm going long on wheelbarrows.

Posted by: Dirks 'Three Scoops at October 12, 2021 12:54 PM (kfcYC)

220 Please don't get all in about the price tag. That is a part of the bill but not the most important part by any means. It is the straight out communism and big government that is the worse part of the bill. Fighting over the price is just communist slight of hand. Look over here while we really screw the country PERMANENTLY.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at October 12, 2021 12:54 PM (iDcra)
++++
That's my take. The price tag is important, but the goal is way more sinister than the price.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2021 12:55 PM (DU+/6)

221 Dear Kurt...

Disclose TV; 2h
NEW -- Record high 4.3 million Americans quit their jobs in August.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 12, 2021 12:55 PM (UHVv4)

222 Example: My local TV news had a story about the county budget for 2022, at $230,000,000. This is an increase of some $44,000,000 over 2021. But the report said $230,000. An increase of $44,000.

As nearly as I can tell, they "rounded off" both numbers by dropping the last three zeros.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 12, 2021 12:50 PM (5Woea)
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Because zeroes are nothing, right? So no biggie.

Sheesh.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 12, 2021 12:55 PM (YqDXo)

223 disclose tv; 8h
JUST IN -- Taiwan is part of China, says Russian FM Lavrov
----------
MORE -- Moscow not ruling out the temporary shutdown of all US, Russian diplomatic missions says Russian Deputy FM Ryabkov.
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 12, 2021 12:53 PM (UHVv4)

oh fuck.

shit's going sideways...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at October 12, 2021 12:56 PM (8D42x)

224 >>shit's going sideways...

NO YELLOW!

Posted by: Hunter Biden at October 12, 2021 12:57 PM (SVo5m)

225 Hey Tall, Cool asshole in a black suit. Fuck off.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 12, 2021 12:36 PM

My comment was not a criticism of your decision. I was using your words you stated in your comment as an example of what we are all going to have to face soon, if we have not already.

You stated "Guess I'm not brave and tough and principled." And you are right. Those who are standing up to the mandates at the expense of the consequences to their livelihoods are brave, tough and principled.

My point is that very few of us are brave, tough and principled when faced with the decisions of losing our livelihoods and/or the livelihoods of our families. And that's the situation in every Western nation right now. This is reality for every single one of us. We are all going to face the same decision you had to face and the majority of us are going to make - or have already made - the same decision you made.

Posted by: Tall Cool Gentleman in a Black Suit at October 12, 2021 12:57 PM (Do5/p)

226 208 So if I follow Senator Feinstein into the ladies room and yell at her that's she's a nasty girl while pissing that's okay. Amirite?

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 12, 2021 12:52 PM (yRved)

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"Come on, man! That's just part of the process -- Especially if you're pissing on her ..."

Posted by: ShainS -- State-Stamped Sluggish Schizophrenic at October 12, 2021 12:57 PM (YEB6c)

227 "But the report said $230,000. "

And if you email them about the egregious error, they will just ignore it. Reporters don't give a shit. It all pays the same.

Posted by: Flight Level gp Heavy Chop at October 12, 2021 12:57 PM (qpX6U)

228 MORE -- Moscow not ruling out the temporary shutdown of all US, Russian diplomatic missions says Russian Deputy FM Ryabkov.
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 12, 2021 12:53 PM (UHVv4)

oh fuck.

shit's going sideways...
Posted by: SturmToddler

Kamala used teeth in her last hummer, didn't she?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2021 12:57 PM (OCTRt)

229 Bidet is turning out to be a bigger fuck up than Obama.

Posted by: IC at October 12, 2021 12:57 PM (hV9ir)

230 193 Gutfeld was talking about that the other night. Hunter's got some 'racist' comments in his emails, but he gets a free pass because he does cocaine, hires hookers and sells out to China.
Posted by: SMOD at October 12, 2021 12:50 PM (RHGPo)

Umm, no. This is best described without snark. Becuase he gets away with ALL of that due to his corrupt father and the media's function as a corrupt propaganda adjunct of the Democrat party,

Posted by: blaster at October 12, 2021 12:57 PM (mbFEM)

231 Yesterday, someone left a voice mail, saying maybe we were out due to "indigenous people's day" (hint- someone even has to work Christmas here). Today I get some Karen that says her dad can't get heart surgery because they don't have any empty beds and said "get vaccinated, people". I guess the Oregon nurses walking out has nothing to do with that.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at October 12, 2021 12:57 PM (5HBd1)

232 Well my thinking is sell off U.S. Islands while Japan or China or someone might still buy them rather than just seize them. I'm sure doing such would break all kinds of laws. But the commiecrats are in power so they don't have to worry about laws. Posted by: PaleRider, wrecker, vaccine resister at October 12, 2021 12:52 PM (pxVvf)

And not so long ago we were talking about buying Greenland.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 12, 2021 12:57 PM (BMmaB)

233 13 Most people have no clue about any of this...like the 38% who approve of Biden's performance.
Posted by: BignJames

Those are polls of adults. Not likely or even registered. That means Biden is down to about 30%.

Posted by: Dirks 'Three Scoops at October 12, 2021 12:57 PM (kfcYC)

234 Do we still get mandatory car breathalyzers and a giant expansion of the Taxman Service?

Posted by: ... at October 12, 2021 12:57 PM (KaHtf)

235 The same people who vote for annual trillion dollar debt-finananced budgets also think a 3% tax increase on a few dozen billionaires will pay for it all ...

Posted by: Lrrr at October 12, 2021 12:58 PM (jIL4c)

236 Example: My local TV news had a story about the county budget for 2022, at $230,000,000. This is an increase of some $44,000,000 over 2021. But the report said $230,000. An increase of $44,000.

As nearly as I can tell, they "rounded off" both numbers by dropping the last three zeros.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 12, 2021 12:50 PM (5Woea)
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Because zeroes are nothing, right? So no biggie.

Sheesh.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 12, 2021 12:55 PM (YqDXo)

that would work IF, and only IF, you're trying to make the numbers relatable to the everyday person. I've seen this done as a way to relate the budget to normal peoples budget.

but this doesn't sound like it was THAT sort of attempt...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at October 12, 2021 12:58 PM (8D42x)

237 Hey tall asshole

You don't get sarcasm then? You're dumber than you look.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 12, 2021 12:58 PM (z8U5v)

238 I think the spending is instead of 350B for 10 years, it's 175 for 5 and then dare congress to cut the spending beginning in year 6 from the budget.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at October 12, 2021 12:58 PM (/88SZ)

239 As nearly as I can tell, they "rounded off" both numbers by dropping the last three zeros.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 12, 2021 12:50 PM (5Woea)

What's a few orders of magnitude between friends?

Posted by: blaster at October 12, 2021 12:59 PM (mbFEM)

240 disclose tv; 8h
JUST IN -- Taiwan is part of China, says Russian FM Lavrov
----------
MORE -- Moscow not ruling out the temporary shutdown of all US, Russian diplomatic missions says Russian Deputy FM Ryabkov.
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 12, 2021 12:53 PM (UHVv4)
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Huh. I figured that a serious Chinese move against Taiwan was likely a couple of years out, with provocations leading up to it. This is still probably true, but getting the Russians involved strikes me as a bigger escalation.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2021 12:59 PM (DU+/6)

241 https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1447240304084594688

Posted by: SMOD at October 12, 2021 12:59 PM (RHGPo)

242 So if I follow Senator Feinstein into the ladies room and yell at her that's she's a nasty girl while pissing that's okay. Amirite?

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 12, 2021 12:52 PM (yRved)

Reminds me of a scene from Animal House. At least she'd be spared the chainsaw.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at October 12, 2021 12:59 PM (uhPTO)

243 "And not so long ago we were talking about buying Greenland."

Be careful what you pay for it. It's big, but the maps make it look way bigger than it is. Fucking cartographers.

Posted by: Flight Level gp Heavy Chop at October 12, 2021 12:59 PM (qpX6U)

244 oh fuck.

shit's going sideways...
Posted by: SturmToddler

Kamala used teeth in her last hummer, didn't she?
Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2021 12:57 PM (OCTRt)

dingy bitch chipped her teeth trying to give head to the vibrator...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at October 12, 2021 01:00 PM (8D42x)

245 Big/tall?

He had a tall dick.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 12, 2021 01:00 PM (IMmgC)

246 MP4, don't you work from home? Which makes a mandate for you doubly stupid.
Posted by: Jordan61 at October 12, 2021 12:45 PM (Ez6QX)

I do, and yes. But MA General Hospital (one client) has said all workers - even remote - have to get the jab. So screw that, I'm out.

And I repeat, I am lucky - I can quit. I am not going to hold it against anyone who gets the shot because the alternative is being fired and not being able to get another job in their chosen field.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 12, 2021 01:00 PM (2JVJo)

247 131 Mary4P request the executive order in writing and law showing it

Posted by: Skip's Phone at October 12, 2021 01:01 PM (Dn83Q)

248 The problem with printing "trillions" is that it all becomes worthless quickly, and thus does nothing except create chaos at all levels.

Here is what gets me. If gratuitously adding trillions upon trillions of new debt doesn't materially change the strength of the dollar against other currencies, then doesn't it mean that other currency issuing entities also inflating similarly?

For example, in China they are having a banking meltdown at the exact same time Europe is issuing out massive amounts of new debt at the exact same time that The Party is wanting to issue out new debt.

Is the $3.5T not only about grift for The Party, but more important to hide the catastrophe in China?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 12, 2021 01:01 PM (+LCoQ)

249 I do not see Manchin or basically anyone in a purple district approving IRS hires to inspect the bank accounts of anyone with a $600 balance or transaction, and the nationalizing of elections won't pass SC.

This sort of shit has to be passed quick. The ads will start and kill the whole thing if the votes are in a month or two.

Posted by: Dirks 'Three Scoops at October 12, 2021 01:01 PM (kfcYC)

250 Gutfeld was talking about that the other night. Hunter's got some 'racist' comments in his emails, but he gets a free pass because he does cocaine, hires hookers and sells out to China.
Posted by: SMOD at October 12, 2021 12:50 PM (RHGPo)

And he's the bag man for buying and selling influence.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 12, 2021 01:01 PM (KbLYZ)

251 I can't stand any of these people.

Posted by: Shenanigans at October 12, 2021 01:01 PM (ZR7kf)

252 Benny
@bennyjohnson
*not a child actor

https://tinyurl.com/d77kc4rh

Posted by: redridinghood at October 12, 2021 01:01 PM (NpAcC)

253 Because zeroes are nothing, right? So no biggie.

Sheesh.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 12, 2021 12:55 PM (YqDXo)

I've noticed that govt's like to put budget numbers "in thousands", but reporters are stupid and forget to put that in their articles. I've seen it a few times.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 12, 2021 01:01 PM (UuD2k)

254 *****

Or even numbers.

Example: My local TV news had a story about the county budget for 2022, at $230,000,000. This is an increase of some $44,000,000 over 2021. But the report said $230,000. An increase of $44,000.

As nearly as I can tell, they "rounded off" both numbers by dropping the last three zeros.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 12, 2021 12:50 PM (5Woea)
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Or, they do have an understanding and, again, are intentionally lying to the public.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 12, 2021 01:02 PM (SnkBD)

255 I can't stand any of these people.
Posted by: Shenanigans at October 12, 2021 01:01 PM (ZR7kf)
++++
Statement applicability: universal

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2021 01:02 PM (DU+/6)

256 This blonde with some sideboob laments that some form of this monstrous bill will pass nonetheless:
https://is.gd/5kmyuR

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2021 01:02 PM (DU+/6)

257 "And not so long ago we were talking about buying Greenland."

Be careful what you pay for it. It's big, but the maps make it look way bigger than it is. Fucking cartographers.
Posted by: Flight Level gp Heavy Chop at October 12, 2021 12:59 PM (qpX6U)

And it's not very green, anyway.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at October 12, 2021 01:03 PM (XvPQV)

258 223 disclose tv; 8h
JUST IN -- Taiwan is part of China, says Russian FM Lavrov
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MORE -- Moscow not ruling out the temporary shutdown of all US, Russian diplomatic missions says Russian Deputy FM Ryabkov.
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 12, 2021 12:53 PM (UHVv4)

oh fuck.
shit's going sideways...
Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at October 12, 2021 12:56 PM (8D42x)

This is really predictable in a game theory kind of way. It costs Russia nothing to suck up to China and get in their good graces by pitching some anti-US rhetoric, because Putin knows that Biden won't do diddly squat about it. Meanwhile, all of Europe is lining up to be Russia's bestest customer this winter, as they run out of Energy and Putin is the closest, most available supplier. The US is completely isolated, thanks to Biden.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 12, 2021 01:03 PM (trdmm)

259 Hey! No fighting in here. This is the War Room!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 12, 2021 01:03 PM (0/GV5)

260 Fucking cartographers.
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They're always projecting.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 12, 2021 01:03 PM (UHVv4)

261 Fucking cartographers.
Posted by: Flight Level gp Heavy Chop at October 12, 2021 12:59 PM (qpX6U)
++++
I'll take "Statements not uttered since the Longitude Act for $500, Alex."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2021 01:03 PM (DU+/6)

262 For the record, I have been an utter mess for weeks pondering what I am going to do when faced with this decision by my employer. I have been unemployed in the past and I almost did not survive it. 2 years from DEC 2008 through DEC 2010. Went through my entire 401(k), my entire savings, lost my home and was set to be completely broke by the end of JAN 2011. I was broken and ready to kill myself from the stress, the depression, the loneliness and the uncertainty of my future at age 35.

Miraculously, I landed a job (which I maintain today) in DEC 2010. I built myself back up and am in a good situation in my career and financial situation again. But I remember those 2 years and am deathly afraid to go through that again, especially in today's environment where hiring is limited and likely everyone will require "vaccine" mandates.

I am dreading being faced with the decision. I want to think I would fight it, especially since I can survive financially for about 2 years without income. But I know I won't survive mentally or emotionally in unemployment again.

Posted by: Tall Cool Gentleman in a Black Suit at October 12, 2021 01:04 PM (Do5/p)

263 241 https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1447240304084594688
Posted by: SMOD at October 12, 2021 12:59 PM (RHGPo)

That will be us soon won't it?

Reason number 652 why I do not post anything in public posts on FB.

Posted by: blaster at October 12, 2021 01:04 PM (mbFEM)

264 I miss the TEA party

Those were more optimistic days

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Failure happens, giving up is a choice at October 12, 2021 01:04 PM (XvPQV)

265 "getting the Russians involved strikes me as a bigger escalation."

idk, maybe they are just playing Biden ... for leverage on? whatever. Isn't the US position still that Taiwan is part of China (but separate)? I don't think we have an ambassador to Taiwan, but something else. (not really clear on that though). Lots of odd maneuvering ... Biden is moving us back into the China propaganda direction.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 12, 2021 01:04 PM (Cus5s)

266 "And it's not very green, anyway."

On my map it's purple! See what I mean? Caveat emptor.

Posted by: Flight Level gp Heavy Chop at October 12, 2021 01:04 PM (qpX6U)

267 It is all interesting in an academic way but we are so far past the fiscal event horizon that none of it matters except the timing of the monetary collapse.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 12, 2021 01:04 PM (yQpMk)

268 You know the totalitarians have gone "all in" when they pass a law against quitting your job.

Atlas Shrugged time.

Posted by: JM in Florida - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at October 12, 2021 01:05 PM (HCeRP)

269 it's not just 2.5 trillion for welfare. if only.

it's 2.5 trillion for population replacement and to effectively pre-arm the federal invasion assistance armies to arrest anyone who complains.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at October 12, 2021 01:05 PM (ZZK0E)

270 Bullshit. If you really felt that way, you would fight the mandate, not Abbott and your employees. Fucktwit is trying to screw his employees while acting as if he is on their side. This is the type of leadership the military had.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 12, 2021 12:54 PM (0ryfU)

This appears to be the only leadership there is anymore, the only place I ever worked it was different was because the owner liked having people he could scream at without fear of reprisal

Posted by: Kindltot at October 12, 2021 01:05 PM (KbLYZ)

271 Sooner or later all denizens of DC will have to be expelled, they are no longer for the people in any sense. If they all lost their jobs and had to go back to home states they might actually see how much harm they have done.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at October 12, 2021 01:06 PM (4cXAQ)

272 Can't afford the spending--though it takes opposition to stop it.
Depending on Mitch and the Washington Generals to oppose ANYthing is to believe in fairy tales.

Trump must destroy Mitch politically, through whatever legal means necessary , and get a MAGA Senator in as Majority Leader in 2022.

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at October 12, 2021 01:06 PM (FCPbW)

273 Huh. I figured that a serious Chinese move against Taiwan was likely a couple of years out, with provocations leading up to it. This is still probably true, but getting the Russians involved strikes me as a bigger escalation.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2021 12:59 PM (DU+/6)

Time to nuke up the Ukies, Poles and Baltics.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 12, 2021 01:06 PM (s2VJv)

274 Deeply off topic but apparently a British man has set a Guinness world record by visiting 51 pubs in 24 hours. I don't know if he had a pint in each.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 12, 2021 01:06 PM (cSyAR)

275 Only people that have been through an extended period of unemployment know how awful it is. I can remember watching the cars drive by on the street and wishing I was going to work. It takes a toll.

I'm still waiting for them to mandate everyone on SS get the jab. But I suspect they want to kill off the old people, so won't do that.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at October 12, 2021 01:06 PM (5HBd1)

276 I am dreading being faced with the decision. I want to think I would fight it, especially since I can survive financially for about 2 years without income. But I know I won't survive mentally or emotionally in unemployment again.
Posted by: Tall Cool Gentleman in a Black Suit at October 12, 2021 01:04 PM (Do5/p)

Time to consider the blessings of forgery.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 12, 2021 01:06 PM (0/GV5)

277 ----------
MORE -- Moscow not ruling out the temporary shutdown of all US, Russian diplomatic missions says Russian Deputy FM Ryabkov.
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 12, 2021 12:53 PM (UHVv4)
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Russia . Russia . Russia

Posted by: Braenyard at October 12, 2021 01:06 PM (SnkBD)

278 Here is what gets me. If gratuitously adding trillions upon trillions of new debt doesn't materially change the strength of the dollar against other currencies, then doesn't it mean that other currency issuing entities also inflating similarly?

I think that the dollar benefits from everyone else sucking, so that while everyone probably wants to switch to a different global currency, there is no reasonable alternative to the dollar.

If true, it means that the collapse of the dollar is potentially going to happen very quickly with little warning, because it’s going to be a global, financial preference cascade.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 12, 2021 01:06 PM (CX3cf)

279 You know the totalitarians have gone "all in" when they pass a law against quitting your job.

Atlas Shrugged time.

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it's funny, because the Biden EO on vaxxines...there's debate over whether it's real or applies to anyone outside the feds.

whatever, right. But...

they're doing the overcharge under plea thing we've seen. "oh you will get fined $100,000,000 per violation or just fire everyone (please don't sue us on this)". So employers are too scared to even figure this out.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at October 12, 2021 01:06 PM (ZZK0E)

280 The mandate for federal employees to get vaccinated by November 22nd also includes those working at home or remotely. I'm still curious how this will play out. There are a lot of feds that don't want the vax and simply firing them is going to be messy, if it comes to that.

Maybe some sort of early retirement for those near the proper age with none of the usual penalties.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 12, 2021 01:07 PM (BFigT)

281
The trillions I almost don't give a shit about anymore, insofar as mere graft is concerned.

It's the hidden power grabs and evisceration of whatever is left of the Constitution and freedom that scares me the most.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 12, 2021 01:08 PM (s2VJv)

282 MORE -- Moscow not ruling out the temporary shutdown of all US, Russian diplomatic missions says Russian Deputy FM Ryabkov.

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well, yeah, they assume their new axis of evil with China cross accepting the invasions of Ukraine and Taiwan would, in a sane world and competent America, lead to some sort of repirsal. not just Biden eating two scoops of ice cream before nap time.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at October 12, 2021 01:08 PM (ZZK0E)

283 You know the totalitarians have gone "all in" when they pass a law against quitting your job.

Atlas Shrugged time.
Posted by: JM in Florida - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at October 12, 2021 01:05 PM (HCeRP)
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I hope they do. Go for it. Watch production crater.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2021 01:08 PM (DU+/6)

284 Reminding everyone that the money is secondary to the dem's goals with these bills. Their first goal is to make fair elections a thing of the past. And to turn mandates into federal law.

Posted by: Justsayin' at October 12, 2021 01:08 PM (Fs5vw)

285 Here is what gets me. If gratuitously adding trillions upon trillions of new debt doesn't materially change the strength of the dollar against other currencies, then doesn't it mean that other currency issuing entities also inflating similarly?"

Bingo! You looked behind the curtain, you know you're not supposed to pay any attention to the men hiding back there!
They are maintaining the illusion of stability by having everyone degrade their economies and their currencies simultaneously - this was one of the biggest things Trump threatened, he wouldn't play along. So he had to go.

But it's like the spinning plates on the old Ed Sullivan show - it's an unstable system, and there are too many spinning plates, and when one starts to crash they all will, together.

and then things will really get interesting.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 12, 2021 01:08 PM (trdmm)

286 To guard against a DC mindset every Congress person should be allowed to employ and bring with them only staffers from their own state. Then at the end of their term they all go back to their home state together.

If there were a regular turnover in DC it would be much more responsive bureaucracy and more reflective of the population.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at October 12, 2021 01:09 PM (4cXAQ)

287 278 Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 12, 2021 01:06 PM (CX3cf)

And the Chi-Com economy is on a huge bubble as well.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 12, 2021 01:09 PM (s2VJv)

288 Is the $3.5T not only about grift for The Party, but more important to hide the catastrophe in China?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 12, 2021 01:01 PM (+LCoQ)

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Good point and question. I'm gonna look into things with that in mind.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at October 12, 2021 01:09 PM (iDcra)

289 It's the hidden power grabs and evisceration of whatever is left of the Constitution and freedom that scares me the most.

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and remember that even if in 2022 we get a super majority in both houses and somehow biden and kamala resign and we reinstate trump, the gOP would never fucking end these power grabs...or use them against the left.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at October 12, 2021 01:09 PM (ZZK0E)

290 BTW the hole closed up. Apparently they hadn't been taking readings long enough to know that it opens and closes naturally yet. Very little coverage of that.
Posted by: Azjaeger at October 12, 2021 12:51 PM (3/XaG)
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My theory is that the Gorbal Warmening Hoax sprang directly from the Ozone Hole Hoax. Once the elite realized how easily "scientists" could be used to spout their propaganda, it was Katy bar the door.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at October 12, 2021 01:09 PM (sWM8x)

291 The greatest trick biden ever pulled was getting people to comply with an EO he hasn't signed yet. You can't sue the government over the mandate if there is no mandate. Yet these companies can't fucking wait to cram it down their employees throats. .

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 12, 2021 01:09 PM (sJX14)

292 I just can't get over how inviting Kamala's mouth is. Think anyone else has noticed?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 12, 2021 01:10 PM (o2MD2)

293 "it's an unstable system, and there are too many spinning plates,"

It baffles me that it hasn't collapsed already. I expected it years ago.

Posted by: Flight Level gp Heavy Chop at October 12, 2021 01:10 PM (qpX6U)

294
Time to nuke up the Ukies, Poles and Baltics.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 12, 2021 01:06 PM (s2VJv)
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Tell that to DeepState

Posted by: Braenyard at October 12, 2021 01:10 PM (SnkBD)

295 >>That is still $2.5 trillion in new welfare spending, on top of the previous trillions.

Apart from the ridiculous price tag, I am terrified of all the Green New Deal and other Socialist policies are embedded in this, the first being the car mileage tax.

There are things in here designed to reshape our country. Debt may be the the least of our worries as we wake up to things like meat and dairy-killing methane taxes (you WILL be vegan and eat the bugs!), states-rights-killing national policies, and location-tracking mileage taxes.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 12, 2021 01:10 PM (bDqIh)

296 I just saw that it snowed in Flagstaff AZ. That's some global warming you got there

Posted by: Tim Riggins at October 12, 2021 01:10 PM (ZZK0E)

297 Only people that have been through an extended period of unemployment know how awful it is. I can remember watching the cars drive by on the street and wishing I was going to work. It takes a toll.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at October 12, 2021 01:06 PM (5HBd1)

Yeah, I have not missed a paycheck since 1981 though my brother went unemployed for over a year in 2009. Well, he has actually been unemployed for a couple of months right now but hopefully that is about to end.

I do not know the stresses that some of you have experienced.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 12, 2021 01:10 PM (yQpMk)

298 I'm still waiting for them to mandate everyone on SS get the jab. But I suspect they want to kill off the old people, so won't do that.
___

The way I feel about this world and its inhabitants, death, even a slow, painful one, would be preferable to continued existence in this evil world.

Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at October 12, 2021 01:10 PM (VQxmz)

299 And I'm old enough to remember when Acid Rain was going to end all life on this planet.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at October 12, 2021 01:10 PM (sWM8x)

300 It's multi trillion dollar deficits until the collapse.

No one will stop it.

Posted by: I mean at October 12, 2021 01:11 PM (4HURf)

301 I hope they do. Go for it. Watch production crater.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2021 01:08 PM (DU+/6)

Wouldn't even need to be an overt general strike. A little "work to rule" here, a little sickout there. Truck driver pulls off highway, and calls in service truck because a clearance lamp burned out, and he doesn't want to get ticketed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 12, 2021 01:11 PM (0/GV5)

302 276 I am dreading being faced with the decision. I want to think I would fight it, especially since I can survive financially for about 2 years without income. But I know I won't survive mentally or emotionally in unemployment again.
Posted by: Tall Cool Gentleman in a Black Suit at October 12, 2021 01:04 PM (Do5/p)

Time to consider the blessings of forgery.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 12, 2021 01:06 PM (0/GV5)

The CDC vaccine card is easy to fake. It's when you do things other than going to a restaurant - like flying - where the State's goons have computers to check you out that it gets problematic.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 12, 2021 01:11 PM (s2VJv)

303 299 And I'm old enough to remember when Acid Rain was going to end all life on this planet.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at October 12, 2021 01:10 PM (sWM8x)

========

That was when I was a kid.

Why do they try to scar children into environmental doom and gloom instead of letting them be children?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 12, 2021 01:11 PM (LvTSG)

304 Those ten richest counties clustered around DC are also a threat to the well-being of the whole nation. The insularity and complete disconnect from the rest of the country is what now drives the country.

They don't know us and they don't care in the least about us.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at October 12, 2021 01:12 PM (4cXAQ)

305 You guys need to relax

Posted by: Y5 at October 12, 2021 01:12 PM (coCgA)

306 Why do they try to scar children into environmental doom and gloom instead of letting them be children?
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Because a lot of parents suck.

Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at October 12, 2021 01:12 PM (VQxmz)

307 Pundits with numbers. LOL Remember this gem, "could have given every citizen a million dollars."

https://tinyurl.com/3xbyzk8d

Posted by: JM in Florida - Behold the Manchurian Candidate at October 12, 2021 01:12 PM (HCeRP)

308 I just can't get over how inviting Kamala's mouth is. Think anyone else has noticed?

Dr Jill has. How do you think kamala got the job?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 12, 2021 01:12 PM (sJX14)

309 With Biden's numbers where they are, it's going to get a lot harder to sell their next stolen election.

Posted by: Anotheranon at October 12, 2021 01:13 PM (8Ze5j)

310 306 Why do they try to scar children into environmental doom and gloom instead of letting them be children?
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Because a lot of parents suck.
Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at October 12, 2021 01:12 PM (VQxmz)

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I keep thinking about Ann Althouse's thing about how it's evil to try and scare children, especially for political purposes. And yet, she kept her Democratic support for decades.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 12, 2021 01:13 PM (LvTSG)

311 Trump must destroy Mitch politically, through whatever legal means necessary , and get a MAGA Senator in as Majority Leader in 2022.

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at October 12, 2021 01:06 PM (FCPbW

pretty tough since Mitch doesn't even stand for election again until 2026.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 12, 2021 01:14 PM (trdmm)

312 309 With Biden's numbers where they are, it's going to get a lot harder to sell their next stolen election.
Posted by: Anotheranon at October 12, 2021 01:1

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"We'll do our best."
-the GOPe of AZ and GA

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 12, 2021 01:14 PM (LvTSG)

313 The CDC vaccine card is easy to fake. It's when you do things other than going to a restaurant - like flying - where the State's goons have computers to check you out that it gets problematic.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 12, 2021 01:11 PM (s2VJv)

Might work for employer vaccine mandates. All they really want is a facade of compliance, anyway.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 12, 2021 01:14 PM (0/GV5)

314 >>With Biden's numbers where they are, it's going to get a lot harder to sell their next stolen election.

81 Million fake Votes can't be wrong.

Posted by: garrett at October 12, 2021 01:14 PM (SVo5m)

315 The way I feel about this world and its inhabitants, death, even a slow, painful one, would be preferable to continued existence in this evil world.
Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at October 12, 2021 01:10 PM (VQxmz)

**fistbump**

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 12, 2021 01:14 PM (2JVJo)

316 311 Trump must destroy Mitch politically, through whatever legal means necessary , and get a MAGA Senator in as Majority Leader in 2022.

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at October 12, 2021 01:06 PM (FCPbW

pretty tough since Mitch doesn't even stand for election again until 2026.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 12, 2021 01:14 PM (trdmm)

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To be fair, Mitch doesn't need to lose his election for Senate to lose his position as leader of the caucus in the Senate. In practical terms, he probably does, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 12, 2021 01:15 PM (LvTSG)

317 Notice how they are not counted in the Unemployment Numbers.
This is fine.

@disclosetv
NEW - Record high 4.3 million Americans quit their jobs in August.
11:51 AM Oct 12, 2021

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 12, 2021 01:15 PM (FAOA7)

318 It baffles me that it hasn't collapsed already. I expected it years ago.
Posted by: Flight Level gp Heavy Chop at October 12, 2021 01:10 PM (qpX6U)

everyone with money is invested in it, and everyone is afraid of losing their money in a smash.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 12, 2021 01:15 PM (KbLYZ)

319 291 The greatest trick biden ever pulled was getting people to comply with an EO he hasn't signed yet.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

The greatest trick biden ever pulled was finding his teeth when trying to brush them.

Posted by: Two Weeks at October 12, 2021 01:16 PM (ELnqd)

320 OT-I guess that Laramie is a leftist part of the state (?) because this 16 year old hs girl just got arrested for not
wearing a mask:

https://tinyurl.com/d2zh2ves

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 12, 2021 01:16 PM (ueGNX)

321 Whatever I do to the McChicken I just ate, it will be transformative.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at October 12, 2021 01:17 PM (vN+oL)

322 About vaccine mandates and losing your job over it, I can't for the life of me believe there aren't lawyers salivating at the chance to challenge this in court.

Or are they all bought off too?

Posted by: JoeF. at October 12, 2021 01:17 PM (mR6Gs)

323 >>OT-I guess that Laramie is a leftist part of the state (?) because this 16 year old hs girl just got arrested for not

If there is a University in the town, it is a Liberal Shithole.

Posted by: garrett at October 12, 2021 01:17 PM (SVo5m)

324 The way I feel about this world and its inhabitants, death, even a slow, painful one, would be preferable to continued existence in this evil world.
Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at October 12, 2021 01:10 PM (VQxmz)

Well, we like you and I always look forward to seeing you. And I wish I knew how to help you with dealing with this.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 12, 2021 01:17 PM (KbLYZ)

325 The forces of evil may have taken all the government, media, entertainment and academia-- but they'll never have the people.

That, they must control by force ...

Posted by: Lrrr at October 12, 2021 01:18 PM (jIL4c)

326 everyone with money is invested in it, and everyone is afraid of losing their money in a smash.

We owe trillions to China, and have huge unpayable obligations. However, China, if anything, is even worse. The only difference is that their economy has been growing, sort of. If everyone is a debtor, who exactly is holding the high cards?

Posted by: pep at October 12, 2021 01:18 PM (ZsR3z)

327 Well, we like you and I always look forward to seeing you. And I wish I knew how to help you with dealing with this.
Posted by: Kindltot
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Only the Lord can do that, and right now, He insists that I stick around and merely watch.

Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at October 12, 2021 01:19 PM (VQxmz)

328 I hate that people think they have to justify why they got the shot. You got it because you thought the benefits were better than the risks, or you were forced to choose between being unemployable or employed.
Just remember who made you decide.
Posted by: Kindltot

The guy on First ?

Posted by: JT at October 12, 2021 01:19 PM (arJlL)

329 NEW - Record high 4.3 million Americans quit their jobs in August.
11:51 AM Oct 12, 2021
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 12, 2021 01:15 PM (FAOA7)

This seems.....high. Is it all over the vaccine?
Or did they quit to take a better job?

Lots of companies are offering higher pay, bonuses and other perks.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 12, 2021 01:19 PM (mR6Gs)

330 About vaccine mandates and losing your job over it, I can't for the life of me believe there aren't lawyers salivating at the chance to challenge this in court.

Or are they all bought off too?
Posted by: JoeF.

Who's going to pay them?

Posted by: SFGoth at October 12, 2021 01:19 PM (KAi1n)

331 If everyone is a debtor, who exactly is holding the high cards?

I'd kind of like to be one of those people.

Posted by: pep at October 12, 2021 01:20 PM (ZsR3z)

332 About vaccine mandates and losing your job over it, I can't for the life of me believe there aren't lawyers salivating at the chance to challenge this in court.
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Yes, recall the lawyers who represented Trump...

Posted by: Lrrr at October 12, 2021 01:20 PM (jIL4c)

333
pretty tough since Mitch doesn't even stand for election again until 2026.

Posted by: Tom Servo
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He can be, - just another senator - .
They can elect a new leader.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 12, 2021 01:20 PM (SnkBD)

334 SMH, not the watching part, the unhappiness.

That is what steals your life while you live it.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 12, 2021 01:20 PM (KbLYZ)

335 Some of you act like a lawyer can just whip out a lawsuit whenever the gubmint overreaches. Ain't that easy.

Posted by: SFGoth at October 12, 2021 01:20 PM (KAi1n)

336 Got a news flash on phone the F-1 driver of the medical car isn't getting the Fake Vax and probably will be terminated

Posted by: Skip's Phone at October 12, 2021 01:21 PM (Dn83Q)

337 Posted by: pep at October 12, 2021 01:18 PM (ZsR3z)

*Evergande enters the chat*

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 12, 2021 01:21 PM (VhhZW)

338 As to Mollie Hemmingway's book:

I am shocked at the allegations that Democrats, members of the party that owned slaves, lynched blacks, created the KKK, championed segregation, imprisoned American citizens of Japanese decent, champions the murder of millions of babies, falsely accused Trump of Russian collusion, lost the Wars in Vietnam, and Afghanistan, can't control the border, defunds the police, threatens to pack the courts, and ignores the Constitution, would stoop to rigging an election. Say it isn't so.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at October 12, 2021 01:21 PM (JUawc)

339 I just can't get over how inviting Kamala's mouth is. Think anyone else has noticed?
Posted by: Xipe Totec

That's seen more traffic than the Long Island Expressway

Posted by: JT at October 12, 2021 01:22 PM (arJlL)

340 Some of you act like a lawyer can just whip out a lawsuit whenever the gubmint overreaches. Ain't that easy.
Posted by: SFGoth at October 12, 2021 01:20 PM (KAi1n)

True, but a lot of this has been bubbling just under the surface for awhile now.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 12, 2021 01:22 PM (mR6Gs)

341 SMH, your posts always encourage me (a fellow believer) and I'm sure others. So you aren't merely watching.

Posted by: skywch at October 12, 2021 01:22 PM (QVgqY)

342 Might work for employer vaccine mandates. All they really want is a facade of compliance, anyway.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at

Unless You work in healthcare in a zip code with 90% compliance. I'd lose not only my job, but my license as well. I can't work ANYWHERE without a license. And I'd be fined and doxxed.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 12, 2021 01:22 PM (A5rYZ)

343 338 As to Mollie Hemmingway's book:

I am shocked at the allegations that Democrats, members of the party that owned slaves, lynched blacks, created the KKK, championed segregation, imprisoned American citizens of Japanese decent, champions the murder of millions of babies, falsely accused Trump of Russian collusion, lost the Wars in Vietnam, and Afghanistan, can't control the border, defunds the police, threatens to pack the courts, and ignores the Constitution, would stoop to rigging an election. Say it isn't so.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at October 12, 2021 01:21 PM (JUawc)

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The ones who insisted that Donald Trump was literally Hitler for several years and said that they'd do absolutely anything to get him out of power because he was such a tyrant? That group of Democrats?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 12, 2021 01:22 PM (LvTSG)

344 320-and that's how lunatic some of the true mask believers are. There have been threats against her family for her not wanting to wear a mask.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 12, 2021 01:23 PM (ueGNX)

345 NEW - Record high 4.3 million Americans quit their jobs in August.
11:51 AM Oct 12, 2021
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 12, 2021 01:15 PM (FAOA7)

This seems.....high. Is it all over the vaccine?
Or did they quit to take a better job?

Lots of companies are offering higher pay, bonuses and other perks.
Posted by: JoeF.

People have literally gone on Strike. It started with Men many years ago (see Dr Helen Smith's book) and spread to Whites. How productive will Blacks and 3rd Worlders and Women be replacing the productive high IQ class.
EL OH EL

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at October 12, 2021 01:23 PM (FAOA7)

346 I just can't get over how inviting Kamala's mouth is. Think anyone else has noticed?
Posted by: Xipe Totec

That's seen more traffic than the Long Island Expressway
Posted by: JT at October 12, 2021 01:22 PM (arJlL)

And more white stuff than the Alps

Posted by: JoeF. at October 12, 2021 01:23 PM (mR6Gs)

347 Gabby Petito autopsy results coming up - presser starting in about 5 minutes.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 12, 2021 01:23 PM (Bmy3R)

348 Here's my biggest "WTF is going on here?" regarding the mandate:
No union, not one, has said "our members refuse to comply, we will strike if enforced"

I just can't see what is going on there-- That's the sine qua non of unions, FFS!

Posted by: Lrrr at October 12, 2021 01:23 PM (jIL4c)

349 hate that people think they have to justify why they got the shot. You got it because you thought the benefits were better than the risks, or you were forced to choose between being unemployable or employed.
Just remember who made you decide

This is just wrng

Posted by: Y5 at October 12, 2021 01:23 PM (coCgA)

350 Is hidden amnesty in this pig?

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 12, 2021 01:23 PM (sVtYq)

351 Some of you act like a lawyer can just whip out a lawsuit whenever the gubmint overreaches. Ain't that easy.

--

wow, man. I guess I misunderstood 2017-2021 and the new American system of governance by Hawaiian judges

Posted by: Tim Riggins at October 12, 2021 01:24 PM (ZZK0E)

352 348 Here's my biggest "WTF is going on here?" regarding the mandate:
No union, not one, has said "our members refuse to comply, we will strike if enforced"

I just can't see what is going on there-- That's the sine qua non of unions, FFS!
Posted by: Lrrr at October 12, 2021 01:23 PM (jIL4c)

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Union leadership are more interested in advancing the interests of the Democratic Party than their represented workers.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 12, 2021 01:24 PM (LvTSG)

353 Nancy is badly in need of an enema. The problem is, if they did give her one, there wouldn't be anything left of her when they got done.

Posted by: Caitlyn's Bidet at October 12, 2021 01:24 PM (wgaqE)

354 "He sat down under a solitary broom tree and prayed that he might die. "I have had enough, Lord," he said. "Take my life, for I am no better than my ancestors who have already died." - 1 Kings 19:4

Yeah, I can definitely empathize with Elijah.

Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at October 12, 2021 01:24 PM (VQxmz)

355 If everyone is a debtor, who exactly is holding the high cards?
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Bwawhahahahaha!!!

Posted by: Liechtenstein at October 12, 2021 01:24 PM (UHVv4)

356 They can elect a new leader.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 12, 2021 01:20 PM (SnkBD)i

Go look at the list of Republican Senators and tell me who it would be.

Posted by: blaster at October 12, 2021 01:25 PM (mbFEM)

357 Only the Lord can do that, and right now, He insists that I stick around and merely watch.
Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at October 12, 2021 01:19 PM (VQxmz)

I look forward to seeing you again, too! It's hard not to feel depressed watching all this crap, and it's a lot worse if there are personal considerations involved. About all one can say is that this has always been an Evil World full of Evil People doing Evil Things, and this is one of the times where it's a lot more apparent than some other times.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 12, 2021 01:25 PM (trdmm)

358 >>Gabby Petito autopsy results coming up - presser starting in about 5 minutes.

Muder by Strangulation / Asphyxiation.

Just like we guessed on day one of the story.

Posted by: garrett at October 12, 2021 01:26 PM (SVo5m)

359 356 They can elect a new leader.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 12, 2021 01:20 PM (SnkBD)i

Go look at the list of Republican Senators and tell me who it would be.
Posted by: blaster at October 12, 2021 01:25 PM

==========

Mike Crapo, obviously.

I mean...Crapo.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the West with Leone at October 12, 2021 01:26 PM (LvTSG)

360 The ones crashing our country's economy....what do they invest in? Other than coffin dancing.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 12, 2021 01:26 PM (IMmgC)

361 Muder by Strangulation / Asphyxiation.

Just like we guessed on day one of the story.
Posted by: g

Who did it?

Posted by: Y5 at October 12, 2021 01:27 PM (coCgA)

362 Yeah, I have not missed a paycheck since 1981 though my brother went unemployed for over a year in 2009. Well, he has actually been unemployed for a couple of months right now but hopefully that is about to end.

I do not know the stresses that some of you have experienced.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)

How do people do it? Serious question.
Someone tried to open a fraudulent UI claim in my name and the paperwork I got from the state said I qualified for 13 weeks.
I've been employed with my company for 32 years.
I've been gainfully employed since I was 16.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2021 01:27 PM (OCTRt)

363 Biden said $0 so make it $0 you bitch!
That is the only number I'll support.

Republicans should NOT waver one iota. hell, shut down the gubmint until after the 2022 elections and the new Congress has been sworn in.

Oh, and Fuck Joe Biden!

Posted by: The Man from Athens at October 12, 2021 01:27 PM (QMwOT)

364 299 And I'm old enough to remember when Acid Rain was going to end all life on this planet.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at October 12, 2021 01:10 PM (sWM8x)

We were told the world was going to end due to an impending ice age, but then we were supposed to die in a nuclear holocaust, until global warming came along...

My dad, who was born in 1921, never paid attention to the "crepe-hangers," as he called them. He used to tell me that mankind is always predicting the end of the world.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma Donald J. Trump is our duly elected president & covid came from a Chinese laboratory at October 12, 2021 01:27 PM (l0Cy4)

365 Who did it?
Posted by: Y5 at October 12, 2021 01:27 PM (coCgA)

Got to be Dirty Laundrie. Innocent people don't do what he's done.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 12, 2021 01:28 PM (Bmy3R)

366 >>Who did it?

You know exactly who did it. We all do.

Could it have been a Rando? Sure.

Was it? Highly unlikely.

Posted by: garrett at October 12, 2021 01:28 PM (SVo5m)

367 348 Here's my biggest "WTF is going on here?" regarding the mandate:
No union, not one, has said "our members refuse to comply, we will strike if enforced"
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Shipbuilders, iirc, yesterday said nix.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 12, 2021 01:28 PM (SnkBD)

368 People forget sometimes that those of us who don't want the shot are calling it a personal decision. That makes it a personal decision for everyone.

Some of us are stunning and brave for refusing the shot. Some of us are stunning and brave for accepting the shot in the face of doubts about it.
Some of us are stunning and brave about things utterly unrelated to covid.

The bad guys here are the officials. Not our fellows.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 12, 2021 01:28 PM (U7wke)

369 296 I just saw that it snowed in Flagstaff AZ. That's some global warming you got there
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You know Flagstaff is at higher elevation, in northern AZ, and not in the desert region, right? It's the snowiest city in the state. Averages over 100 inches a year.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at October 12, 2021 01:28 PM (k4dH2)

370 Got to be Dirty Laundrie. Innocent people don't do what he's done.
Posted by:

Is this snark?

Posted by: Y5 at October 12, 2021 01:28 PM (coCgA)

371 Here's my biggest "WTF is going on here?" regarding the mandate:
No union, not one, has said "our members refuse to comply, we will strike if enforced"

I just can't see what is going on there-- That's the sine qua non of unions, FFS!
Posted by: Lrrr

Where do you think part of that $3.5 TRILLION is going?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2021 01:29 PM (OCTRt)

372 Muder by Strangulation / Asphyxiation.

Just like we guessed on day one of the story.
Posted by: g

Who did it?
Posted by: Y5

The guy on First ?

Posted by: JT at October 12, 2021 01:29 PM (arJlL)

373 Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2021 01:27 PM (OCTRt)

I had to get a new job every 3-4 years for 25 years. I don't think I have another resume, job application, or interview in me.

Posted by: Jordan61 at October 12, 2021 01:29 PM (Ez6QX)

374 >>You know Flagstaff is at higher elevation, in northern AZ, and not in the desert region, right? It's the snowiest city in the state. Averages over 100 inches a year.

Many a year that I lived in AZ there was heavy traffic south out of Colorado and headed to Flagstaff.

When they get big snow years, the conditions there are amazing.

Posted by: garrett at October 12, 2021 01:29 PM (SVo5m)

375 FOR SMH

Dear one, I encourage you to finish the race an fight the good fight because you are important to lots of people. Here is a word of hope for you from "The Christian Post":

lhttps://tinyurl.com/ssp84umz

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 12, 2021 01:30 PM (ueGNX)

376 ome of us are stunning and brave for refusing the shot. Some of us are stunning and brave for accepting the shot in the face of doubts about it.
Some of us are stunning and brave about things utterly unrelated to covid.

The bad guys here are the officials. Not our fellows.
Posted by: I

Right, then do sports, movies, foods

Posted by: Y5 at October 12, 2021 01:30 PM (coCgA)

377 Is this snark?
Posted by: Y5 at October 12, 2021 01:28 PM (coCgA)

Um...no?

Innocent people don't act like Laundie has. Did I stutter?

Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 12, 2021 01:30 PM (Bmy3R)

378 350 Is hidden amnesty in this pig?

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dude the thing weaponizes the federal governemnt against America for the invaders. Illegals get everything, from VIP treatment once they cross the border as various "catholic charities" transfer them from safe house to safe house.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at October 12, 2021 01:30 PM (ZZK0E)

379 Kings 19:4

Yeah, I can definitely empathize with Elijah.

Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at October 12, 2021 01:24 PM (VQxmz)
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What did God do with Elijah?

Posted by: Braenyard at October 12, 2021 01:31 PM (SnkBD)

380 You know Flagstaff is at higher elevation, in northern AZ, and not in the desert region, right? It's the snowiest city in the state. Averages over 100 inches a year.

--

I wondered about that. It's still early for Flagstaff.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at October 12, 2021 01:31 PM (ZZK0E)

381 Thanks, Fen. I will read it.

I'll be okay. I'm just disgusted and tired.

Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at October 12, 2021 01:31 PM (VQxmz)

382 356 They can elect a new leader.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 12, 2021 01:20 PM (SnkBD)i

Go look at the list of Republican Senators and tell me who it would be.
Posted by: blaster at October 12, 2021 01:25 PM (mbFEM)

I would go for Ted Cruz! But, it's pretty widely known that Cruz is hated by everyone else in the Senate, especially the Republicans, for being an ass to them most of time. (well they do deserve it)

hmm, who else? Ms. Lindsey Graham? HAHAHAHA!

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 12, 2021 01:31 PM (trdmm)

383 Who did it?
Posted by: Y5 at October 12, 2021 01:27 PM (coCgA)

Its a mystery! Probably a 23 year old guy who's bald and lives in Florida with his parents, but I'd just be making a wild ass guess at this point -

but I mean, who else strangles young women and leaves them in the wilderness if not those guys? I'd hunt there first...

Posted by: Boswell at October 12, 2021 01:31 PM (5iUNf)

384
Um...no?

Innocent people don't act like Laundie has. Did I stutter?
Posted by: G

What did he do?

Have you read the Constitution?

Posted by: Y5 at October 12, 2021 01:31 PM (coCgA)

385
Innocent people don't act like Laundie has. Did I stutter?
Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 12, 2021 01:30 PM (Bmy3R)

You mean, run and hide?

Posted by: Sponge - Michael Byrd MURDERED Ashli Babbitt at October 12, 2021 01:31 PM (9gDA7)

386 When they get big snow years, the conditions there are amazing.
_____________

The winter of '72-73, Flag got over 200 inches of snow. Still the record.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at October 12, 2021 01:32 PM (k4dH2)

387 Averages over 100 inches a year.
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That is an evening with Paolo, ladies.

Posted by: paolo at October 12, 2021 01:32 PM (UHVv4)

388 Who did it?
Posted by: Y5 at October 12, 2021 01:27 PM (coCgA)
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That guy who committed suicide not far from the campsite.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 12, 2021 01:33 PM (SnkBD)

389 >>It's still early for Flagstaff.

I've had quite a few Octobers in the Sedona / Moab areas with snowfall...and both of those are not up on the Plateau.

Like I said, 40" in 48 Hours in the hills outside of Dillon, MT.
And this happens quite a bit in October. Bunch of Antelope Hunters down there aren't going anywhere for a week or so.

Posted by: garrett at October 12, 2021 01:33 PM (SVo5m)

390 I wondered about that. It's still early for Flagstaff.
Posted by: Tim Riggins at October 12, 2021 01:31 PM (ZZK0E)

Ski resort there - stayed there once...

Posted by: Boswell at October 12, 2021 01:33 PM (5iUNf)

391 You are talking about 13 weeks of state benefits. If there's high unemployment (mine was in 200

, there are Federal benefits you go through first.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at October 12, 2021 01:33 PM (5HBd1)

392 Its a mystery! Probably a 23 year old guy who's bald and lives in Florida with his parents, but I'd just be making a wild ass guess at this point -

but I mean, who else strangles young women and leaves them in the wilderness if not those guys? I'd hunt there first...
Posted by: B

Yeah I get that he is a good suspect, it is just fun to see the get a rope hanging jury of strong conservatives at the hq

Posted by: Y5 at October 12, 2021 01:33 PM (coCgA)

393 Ski resort there - stayed there once...
Posted by: Boswell at Octobe

Mt Lemmon!!!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 12, 2021 01:34 PM (gprql)

394 > Here's my biggest "WTF is going on here?" regarding the mandate:
No union, not one, has said "our members refuse to comply, we will strike if enforced"
______
Early on the USPS said, thx, no thx to the vax mandate. And, of course, members of congress, their staff and families are exempt.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 12, 2021 01:34 PM (BFigT)

395 Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at October 12, 2021 01:31 PM (VQxmz)

I can certainly relate to those feelings. Please get some rest and spend time with people and things that encourage you.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 12, 2021 01:35 PM (ueGNX)

396 379 Kings 19:4

Yeah, I can definitely empathize with Elijah.

Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at October 12, 2021 01:24 PM (VQxmz)
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What did God do with Elijah?
Posted by: Braenyard at October 12, 2021 01:31 PM (SnkBD)

My wife and I have talked about this specifically, it's a very good story that isn't widely known. God does not rebuke Elijah, doesn't tell him he's wrong, doesn't give him a pep talk. Instead, he just says (paraphrased) "yes, I know you're down and a lot of bad things have happened. But stick around a little bit more - because I'm about to do some things that nobody on this world will ever see coming!"

and then he does, and then Elijah is taken up to heaven without dying first.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 12, 2021 01:35 PM (trdmm)

397 Innocent people don't act like Laundie has. Did I stutter?
Posted by: Guy Smiley at October 12, 2021 01:30 PM (Bmy3R)

You mean, run and hide?
Posted by: Sponge

Ru-ru-ru-ru-ru-run &&&&&&&&& hi-hi-hi-hi-hide?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2021 01:35 PM (OCTRt)

398 346 I just can't get over how inviting Kamala's mouth is. Think anyone else has noticed?
Posted by: Xipe Totec

After 12 bj's the next one is free.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at October 12, 2021 01:35 PM (QMwOT)

399

Yeah I get that he is a good suspect, it is just fun to see the get a rope hanging jury of strong conservatives at the hq
Posted by: Y5 at October 12, 2021 01:33 PM (coCgA)

It's cute you think there's still a thing called "innocent until proven guilty" in this country still.......

Posted by: Sponge - Michael Byrd MURDERED Ashli Babbitt at October 12, 2021 01:35 PM (9gDA7)

400

Ru-ru-ru-ru-ru-run &&&&&&&&& hi-hi-hi-hi-hide?
Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2021 01:35 PM (OCTRt)

LMFAO

Posted by: Sponge - Michael Byrd MURDERED Ashli Babbitt at October 12, 2021 01:36 PM (9gDA7)

401 NOOD if you didn't notice......

Posted by: Sponge - Michael Byrd MURDERED Ashli Babbitt at October 12, 2021 01:37 PM (9gDA7)

402 368 People forget sometimes that those of us who don't want the shot are calling it a personal decision. That makes it a personal decision for everyone.

Some of us are stunning and brave for refusing the shot. Some of us are stunning and brave for accepting the shot in the face of doubts about it.
Some of us are stunning and brave about things utterly unrelated to covid.

The bad guys here are the officials. Not our fellows.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 12, 2021 01:28 PM (U7wke)

So everyone gets a trophy?

Posted by: Justsayin' at October 12, 2021 01:37 PM (Fs5vw)

403 And you know what else is a pain? Having dumbasses snark that "if Drumpf were still President, you'd get the shot!"

Uh, no. Just as Teh Donald wasn't my spiritual guide, he's not my PCP, either. This was a RUSHED concoction with no control group and no long-term studies. I wouldn't take it even if vampire Pola Negri promised me a night of bliss for doing so.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 12, 2021 01:37 PM (2JVJo)

404 As to the anti-vax, rolling thunder against Biden, yesterday, someone posted an excellent link elaborating this snow ball rolling down hill.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 12, 2021 01:38 PM (SnkBD)

405 It's cute you think there's still a thing called "innocent until proven guilty" in this country still.......
Posted by:

That there is somebody at the hq that is suggesting somebody exercising their rights, not talking to the cops, and convicted by the mfm is guilty is weird

Posted by: Y5 at October 12, 2021 01:38 PM (coCgA)

406 Its a mystery! Probably a 23 year old guy who's bald and lives in Florida with his parents, but I'd just be making a wild ass guess at this point -
______________

I still wanna know who thought it was a good idea for this couple, a high-strung girl with OCD and anxiety disorders, and a guy with autism and who-knows-what other emotional disorders, who were already having fights, to go on an extended road trip together in a small van, where they'd be forced to be together 24/7, in a very cramped space, in the hot summer months.

That's the kind of trip that would strain even a very stable, well-adjusted couple, which these two clearly were not.

Did no one in their families say "hey, wait a minute, this may not be the best idea for you two"?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at October 12, 2021 01:38 PM (k4dH2)

407 >>Mt Lemmon!!!

That is in Tucson.

Posted by: garrett at October 12, 2021 01:38 PM (SVo5m)

408 don't know who is a worse attention whore

John Walsh

the Dog

Posted by: REDACTED at October 12, 2021 01:40 PM (us2H3)

409
Go look at the list of Republican Senators and tell me who it would be.
Posted by: blaster at October 12, 2021 01:25 PM (mbFEM)

I would go for Ted Cruz! But, it's pretty widely known that Cruz is hated by everyone else in the Senate, especially the Republicans, for being an ass to them most of time. (well they do deserve it)

hmm, who else? Ms. Lindsey Graham? HAHAHAHA!
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 12, 2021 01:31 PM (trdmm)
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President Trump will be the influencer on that.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 12, 2021 01:42 PM (SnkBD)

410 403. Agree. Most of us were skeptical of anything Fauci was pushing within a few months of the start of the pandemic. It was not about who was in the White House.

Posted by: Rusty at October 12, 2021 01:42 PM (2w0s8)

411 hmm, who else? Ms. Lindsey Graham? HAHAHAHA!
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 12, 2021 01:31 PM (trdmm)

first split tail Majority leader

Posted by: REDACTED at October 12, 2021 01:44 PM (us2H3)

412 They just need to start the programs. They will win the funding in the long run.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at October 12, 2021 01:45 PM (GNI4j)

413 imagine being an adult and thinking any of this is real.

Posted by: nope at October 12, 2021 01:46 PM (/6px4)

414 Early on the USPS said, thx, no thx to the vax mandate. And, of course, members of congress, their staff and families are exempt.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 12, 2021 01:34 PM (BFigT)

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But we're all in this together.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at October 12, 2021 01:53 PM (4cXAQ)

415 "Note that that is the prosecutor that Loudoun County parents successfully got removed from their attempt to remove leftwing school board doxxer and intimidator Beth Barts, for conflict of interest."

What?

Posted by: Braenyard at October 12, 2021 01:56 PM (SnkBD)

416 Saying "We'll only rape half of your women & only kill half of your kids." doesn't sound much like a surrender.

Posted by: aelfheld at October 12, 2021 02:10 PM (Zy9Yy)

417 REUTERS: "There will be things that people can't get," at Christmas, White House says

Posted by: SMOD at October 12, 2021 02:20 PM (RHGPo)

418 Someone will finally get shot or beaten to death over this garbage and rightfully so.

Posted by: flounder at October 12, 2021 02:33 PM (KnJdm)

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