Impromptu Garden Thread

It just occurred to me that KT mentioned last night that she was going into the hospital for a minor procedure. I didn't consider how that might impact the Saturday gardening thread, but since there isn't one in the queue, I figured I better throw something up. I don't have anything prepared, so lets start with...this:

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— ONT WTF (@OntWtf) May 8, 2021

That's my garden at the new house. I've never had a garden this large, and it was actually a struggle to fill it up. I've got tomatoes, peppers, corn, spinach, lettuce, broccoli, beans, peas, onions, squash, cukes, carrots, watermelons , cantaloupes, asparagus, cabbage and brussels sprouts growing (ETA: I forgot the berries. The lower right quadrant of the garden in the picture has berry bushes. Blueberries, blackberries, raspberries and I even plated a couple of grape vines for gits and shiggles). The brussels sprouts aren't going to make it, they got a blight. The whole thing is set up for automatic watering every day (the sprinklers on posts at the two corners), and it seems to be doing well. I can't wait until later in the year when I start harvesting stuff, I'll keep you updated.

The only other yard/garden thing I have offhand is this. I just got a pretty good deal on a Toro zero-turn mower.

I bought it from a guy selling it for a widow for $1200. I could turn around and sell it for close to $2000 easily, so I'm pretty pleased. The thing lets you mow with great precision, but it does take a bit of getting used to control wise.

Well, that's it. Pretty crappy garden thread, but next week KT will be back with a real one. Please remember her in your prayers, "minor" procedures are rarely that when it's you that's getting the work done. What's going on with your gardens, Morons?

Posted by: WeirdDave at 12:39 PM

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1 I'll fetch em

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2021 11:39 AM (Cxk7w)

2 0 turn tractor is the way to go if you can, my tractor isn't and got lots of spaces to get around.

Horde summoned as always

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2021 11:42 AM (Cxk7w)

3 If the Black Hammer made a scary movie, would that be a Black Hammer Horror?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 08, 2021 11:43 AM (PiwSw)

4 Have to love the cobs here.* That dental plan must be fantastic. 'Free' dental floss, I hear.

*I mean that sincerely.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 08, 2021 11:43 AM (lmikk)

5 That's my garden at the new house.

We'll take it!

Posted by: Black Hammer at May 08, 2021 11:44 AM (3fR4G)

6 3 If the Black Hammer made a scary movie, would that be a Black Hammer Horror?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 08, 2021 11:43 AM (PiwSw)

I would prefer Black Corman, honestly. Or Black Sidaris even more so. Large breasts.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 08, 2021 11:44 AM (lmikk)

7 Zero-turn mower? I think I'd much rather have one you can turn and change direction.

Posted by: JROD at May 08, 2021 11:45 AM (0jZnq)

8 Sister gave me a basil plant and different than the sweet basil I already have, this one she said getsbushlike and seems woody stems rather than green stems on one have have.
Other than that waiting couple weeks as it's only in 50s outside now.

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2021 11:45 AM (Cxk7w)

9 Huh. Well, that's a big garden, WD. In your climate/region, have no idea what the pitfalls are, in terms of bugs, blights, or critters - but I would think at least the leafy greens and some of the other plants, while young, will be vulnerable to consumption by rabbits.

Perimeter fence? For rabbits, chicken wire 1-ft high is plenty. They're not capable/determined attackers.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 08, 2021 11:45 AM (OTzUX)

10 Got a Cub Cadet zero turn w/steering wheel...for the wife.

Posted by: BignJames at May 08, 2021 11:45 AM (AwYPR)

11 Hey. We're cereal!! We totes mean everything we say....what you mean we can't plant Cheetos?

Posted by: Black Hammer at May 08, 2021 11:46 AM (jvt6t)

12 Was it Hadrian that just put his Zero Turn into the pond the other day?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice. Asymptomatic raycist at May 08, 2021 11:46 AM (S7VTO)

13 Hey.
I think that's Lake Palestine?

Posted by: Keith at May 08, 2021 11:47 AM (DA0nx)

14 Ok, ok. Technically, they're zero-turn-radius mowers.

I've discovered that the big advantage is in mowing straight lines. That is, you can mow nice diagonals because doing a 180 at each end is not a pain in the ass.

Posted by: t-bird at May 08, 2021 11:47 AM (lIIT7)

15 Driving a 0 turn mower has to be like driving a tank, just a lot faster.

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2021 11:48 AM (Cxk7w)

16 Tawny Kitaen is dead and we're talking about gardens?

I'm a little disappointed in you guys.

Posted by: Shoey77 at May 08, 2021 11:48 AM (fcWVN)

17 Back in the day, I purchased a brand new Toro 14 HP rider. It gave me constant issues and I couldn't wait to unload it.

Hopefully, yours will be much better.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 08, 2021 11:49 AM (jvt6t)

18 I've narrowed my food gardening to a few herbs, lettuce and a few greens, and of course tomatoes (in pots). Have found many things are easy to grow (cilantro, for example) aren't worth the trouble because you get ..... basically one crop, maybe two. That is, you used it two or three times in cooking, and it's gone, unless you grow a large amount.

Let's see what this year's mystery drama will be with basil, from seed, in containers. Been growing it for about 10 years, every year seems different, sometimes dramatically so. Seeds won't germinate until starting in July, some years. This is San Diego, where they should work starting in March.

Actually going to plant 2 more containers today, different soil, different location, see if anything comes up. Planted 2 containers more than a week ago, and, so far, bupkis.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 08, 2021 11:49 AM (OTzUX)

19 Skip, i have the worst luck with basil here. Just not enough heat i guess. I wonder if i need a mini greenhouse.

Posted by: Funsize at May 08, 2021 11:49 AM (EiPf6)

20 15 Driving a 0 turn mower has to be like driving a tank, just a lot faster.
Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2021 11:48 AM (Cxk7w)

Ahem....at 52 mph

Posted by: M1A1 Abrams at May 08, 2021 11:49 AM (jvt6t)

21 Sweet of you to remember the gardening thread and fill in for KT, WeurdDave.

Posted by: creeper at May 08, 2021 11:50 AM (XxJt1)

22 but I would think at least the leafy greens and some of the other plants, while young, will be vulnerable to consumption by rabbits.

You would think so, but to be honest, I've lived here for almost 9 months and I haven't seen a rabbit yet. No kidding. I don't know why, maybe it's the dogs. Everyone around here has dogs. If I do start to have issues I'll run up some fencing.

Posted by: Weirddave at May 08, 2021 11:50 AM (XgRlp)

23 Great garden, Dave

Posted by: CN at May 08, 2021 11:50 AM (ONvIw)

24 The Horror And The Underdeveloped Mentally Babe.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 08, 2021 11:50 AM (o89XP)

25 Actually going to plant 2 more containers today, different soil, different location, see if anything comes up.

Anybody know how to grow Doritos? Got people coming over this weekend and they're going to be hungry.

Posted by: Black Hammer at May 08, 2021 11:51 AM (AytXr)

26 Thanks, WeirdDave! KT did mention that there would be no gardening thread from her today. I appreciate your filling in.

And prayers up for KT.

Posted by: Emmie at May 08, 2021 11:52 AM (ofYez)

27 We have frost warnings here for the next few nights.. So, maybe next weekend or the weekend after that I will put in my garden.. mostly tomatoes..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 08, 2021 11:54 AM (CjFDo)

28 Definitely need a barrier fence of some kind. The rabbits will clean you out.

On the bright side, rabbit tenderloin w/ remoulade is tasty.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 08, 2021 11:54 AM (jvt6t)

29 Anybody know how to grow Doritos? Got people coming over this weekend and they're going to be hungry.

Posted by: Black Hammer at May 08, 2021 11:51 AM (AytXr)

I can teach you how to plant chickens.

Posted by: BignJames at May 08, 2021 11:54 AM (AwYPR)

30 Interesting, Dave. Cottontails here, don't know how they survive/what they eat in the desert chapparal, but they're everywhere.

This year my first lettuce starts were devoured by something that remains a mystery. Nothing on four legs, pretty sure (as shown by no impressions on smooth soil strips I made around them just for this purpose), not birds. No insect candidates, or worms (did treat with 2 things that nix those).

Guessing it was in fact 4-legged, rats, starving from the drought this past fall/winter. Normally don't treat with anything, but composted soil, so need to guard against worms. Anyway, remains a mystery, and it all stopped about March. Prime lettuce season here November thru April.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 08, 2021 11:54 AM (OTzUX)

31 garden? heck, you're in Texas now ... that would qualify (almost) as a neighborhood plot. lol
by the way, if you're looking for somewhere more interesting to ride your motorcycle ... Mena, AR is not much more than 3 or 3-1/2 hours north of you. We have a shorter version of the Blue Ridge Parkway that's fun to ride. Always ready to hop on my Wing (or Rune) and show a fellow moron or three around.
(ex-Edmonton boy living the quiet life in Arkansas and lurking here since forever.)

Posted by: Wingnut at May 08, 2021 11:55 AM (2W9Jj)

32 Duck tape on the seat of your mower tells me you're a hardcore geomorphologist.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 08, 2021 11:55 AM (2goRJ)

33 How big is your garden Dave? I'm guessing about 20 ft x 20 ft.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at May 08, 2021 11:55 AM (cCxiu)

34 What's going on with your gardens, Morons?

Very embarrassed to admit I killed a thyme plant. Which are supposed to be indestructible.

Posted by: kallisto at May 08, 2021 11:55 AM (DJFLF)

35 The only produce I grow is citrus. I have a lime tree and a Meyer lemon. They've gone nuts...setting on more flowers than leaves. Most of the little fruits will probably drop off but with luck I'll get more than last year's seven limes and one lemon.

Posted by: creeper at May 08, 2021 11:56 AM (XxJt1)

36 I think that's Lake Palestine?

No, it's a small (110 acres) private lake. Still more than big enough for lake fun, except for things that require big power boats (like waterskiing), the lake has a 9.9 hp limit on motors.

Posted by: Weirddave at May 08, 2021 11:56 AM (XgRlp)

37 At garden center a week ago they had a sign not to put basil outside yet. Even this morning my mini greenhouse was still in 60s, first few days mine was looking sad but warmed up and is doing fine.

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2021 11:56 AM (Cxk7w)

38 29 Anybody know how to grow Doritos? Got people coming over this weekend and they're going to be hungry.

Posted by: Black Hammer at May 08, 2021 11:51 AM (AytXr)

You boys know how to skin a Griz?? I know a guy....

Posted by: Jeremiah Johnson at May 08, 2021 11:57 AM (jvt6t)

39 You would think so, but to be honest, I've lived here for almost 9 months and I haven't seen a rabbit yet.

seen any raptors flying around? Great Horned owls, redtail hawk, that kind of thing?

Posted by: kallisto at May 08, 2021 11:57 AM (DJFLF)

40 Skip, i have the worst luck with basil here. Just not enough heat i guess. I wonder if i need a mini greenhouse.
Posted by: Funsize
.......

I don't know where you live, but basil does very well here in northern Illinois.. it is very hardy.

You have to prune it correctly to get it to be bushy, however.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 08, 2021 11:57 AM (CjFDo)

41 Posted by: rhomboid at May 08, 2021 11:49 AM (OTzUX)

can you post your basil lemonade recipe here?

Posted by: kallisto at May 08, 2021 11:58 AM (DJFLF)

42 You have to prune it correctly to get it to be bushy, however.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 08, 2021 11:57 AM (CjFDo)

I hear you.

Posted by: Zombie Tawny Kitaen at May 08, 2021 11:59 AM (jvt6t)

43 37 kallisto was at Wolf's the other Friday and got the plants I put in last week. They have big selection, wasn't happy having masks outside though.

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2021 12:00 PM (Cxk7w)

44 I know crap about gardening. Rosemary and thyme are easy. Basil is hit and miss. Cilantro is slug food and there is little you can do to stop it. We tried egg shells.

Mint will take over half the yard if you let it.

ask me about growing tobacco, i love to opine on that.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 12:01 PM (q+CRl)

45 43 37 kallisto was at Wolf's the other Friday and got the plants I put in last week. They have big selection, wasn't happy having masks outside though.
Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2021 12:00 PM (Cxk7w)

I love Wolff's! Haven't been there in years though if you can believe it.

They make you wear masks outdoors...lolol

they can all EABOD

Posted by: kallisto at May 08, 2021 12:02 PM (DJFLF)

46 How big is your garden Dave? I'm guessing about 20 ft x 20 ft.

40 X 30

Posted by: Weirddave at May 08, 2021 12:03 PM (XgRlp)

47 I've been going to Richardson's just over the state line in DE, nobody bothers me about no mask, not even during the height of the scamdemic.

Posted by: kallisto at May 08, 2021 12:03 PM (DJFLF)

48 brb, have to go plant some dwarf sunflowers

Posted by: kallisto at May 08, 2021 12:04 PM (DJFLF)

49 This is Texas. Where is the cattle.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 08, 2021 12:05 PM (Q9lwr)

50 seen any raptors flying around? Great Horned owls, redtail hawk, that kind of thing?

Yup, all kinds of them. Now that you mention it, that's probably it.

I also put in a half dozen fruit trees last fall. Oranges, apricots, cherries, nectarines, plumbs, peaches, avocadoes and apples. The peach tree is bearing well, I have to stake up the branches this afternoon.

Posted by: Weirddave at May 08, 2021 12:06 PM (XgRlp)

51 Nice garden, WD !

Posted by: JT at May 08, 2021 12:07 PM (arJlL)

52 I decided to try out square foot gardening. Obviously I failed math because I have 2 SF each of carrots and parsnips and 4 of bush beans.

I like parsnips but have no idea how to store them after harvest and then I read about baby parsnips being a thing. Baby carrots are great, parsnips are kinda white carrots so why not?

Posted by: all doubt removed at May 08, 2021 12:08 PM (S2eH9)

53 tobacco? I bet that would grow well here in SC.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at May 08, 2021 12:08 PM (xopIz)

54 brb, have to go plant some dwarf sunflowers
Posted by: kallisto

Why dwarves ?

I planted GIANT sunflowers !

Posted by: JT at May 08, 2021 12:09 PM (arJlL)

55 Where can I get seeds or seedlings (tobacco)?

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at May 08, 2021 12:09 PM (xopIz)

56 Got a little more in the ground this week. Hope to get more in today.

Back surgery restrictions, no bending, lifting, twisting, make for slow going. Supposed to keep spine straight between shoulders and hips, not easy but you learn how to move.

Posted by: Farmer at May 08, 2021 12:09 PM (55Qr6)

57 Nice garden, WD !
Posted by: JT

Any fish in that lake ?

Posted by: JT at May 08, 2021 12:10 PM (arJlL)

58 I like parsnips but have no idea how to store them after harvest and then I read about baby parsnips being a thing. Baby carrots are great, parsnips are kinda white carrots so why not?
Posted by: all doubt removed at May 08, 2021 12:08 PM (S2eH9)

Mason Jars are your friend. You can can anything and it's not that difficult.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 08, 2021 12:10 PM (jvt6t)

59 Wishing you a speedy recovery, KT.

Posted by: 40 Miles North at May 08, 2021 12:10 PM (uWF4x)

60 tobacco? I bet that would grow well here in SC.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at May 08, 2021 12:08 PM (xopIz)

the key is having a lot of sun. If you don't have 8 plus hours of sun, it can be a real chore. I once danced a massive tobacco plant around just to find the sun. It was a a labor of love and really a lot of fun. But it is better to have the sun.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 12:11 PM (q+CRl)

61 tobacco? I bet that would grow well here in SC.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at May 08, 2021 12:08 PM (xopIz)

must be why they have all those tobacco barns in the low country.

Posted by: BignJames at May 08, 2021 12:11 PM (AwYPR)

62 LOL. Where else? ebay.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at May 08, 2021 12:11 PM (xopIz)

63 Any fish in that lake ?

Buddy of mine caught an 8lb bass off my dock in February.

Posted by: Weirddave at May 08, 2021 12:13 PM (XgRlp)

64 > You can can anything and it's not that difficult.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 08, 2021 12:10 PM (jvt6t)

I've only ever seen fresh parsnips so didn't know they could be canned. I'll look into it. Thanks.

Posted by: all doubt removed at May 08, 2021 12:14 PM (S2eH9)

65 Caution with raspberries and blackberries, they're very invasive.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 08, 2021 12:14 PM (EZebt)

66 JTB and I wish good health and quick recovery for KT.

Posted by: Mrs. JTB at May 08, 2021 12:15 PM (7EjX1)

67 Why dwarves ?

I planted GIANT sunflowers !
Posted by: JT at May 08, 2021 12:09 PM (arJlL)

I have the big ones as well, the dwarves will sit at their feet and also in pots on my deck. If all goes well...

Posted by: kallisto at May 08, 2021 12:15 PM (DJFLF)

68 Any fish in that lake ?

Buddy of mine caught an 8lb bass off my dock in February.
Posted by: Weirddave

I bet that wasn't the only fish in the lake !

Posted by: JT at May 08, 2021 12:15 PM (arJlL)

69 Last night I got an estimate for removal of a big basswood tree from the backyard, along with pruning the Norway Maple and shaving back the neighbours' out-of-control cedar hedge that's grown so big it's squashing against our house and higher than the eavestroughs on the second floor. The guys came at 10:00 this morning, and they're busy putting all the branches through the chipper right now. The big tree is GONE, and I can't stop smiling as I look at how much light and air is in the back yard. Now my garden this year won't have these big crouching tree branches shading them all morning, and I might win the yearly fight against encroaching roots.

Actually, this is the first time since the WuFlu screwed everything up at the beginning of last spring that I feel upbeat and optimistic. I'm going to have a good garden this year! My yard is no longer neglected and overgrown! Things are looking up at last!

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at May 08, 2021 12:16 PM (85TNs)

70 Where can I get seeds or seedlings (tobacco)?

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at May 08, 2021 12:09 PM (xopIz)

you can get them online from ebay. I is legal too. But you will be shocked, those things are like pepper flakes. A good seller will give you a legit level of instruction. You start with thousands of flakes and then come down to a few really good plants. Then you pick the best ones and keep going.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 12:16 PM (q+CRl)

71 It is a lot of fun to grow tobacco in my opinion. If nothing else, it is
a nice middle finger to the gov. But i know gardeners who grow them
for various reasons. It is a natural pesticide and depending on the
plant, they can have some nice flowers.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 12:16 PM (q+CRl)

72 I love parsnips too, never planted them though. Great harvest/winter food. Nice accompaniment to pot roast.

Posted by: kallisto at May 08, 2021 12:17 PM (DJFLF)

73 Can someone explain the Duck tape on the lawn tractor?

Posted by: Cindy Munford at May 08, 2021 12:17 PM (wugIS)

74 beautiful spot for a garden!

Posted by: robert kendall at May 08, 2021 12:17 PM (+UGno)

75 WeirdDave, Thanks for the post. Great garden. Looks like you are enjoying Texas.

Posted by: Mrs. JTB at May 08, 2021 12:17 PM (7EjX1)

76 Very nice garden pic!

Still cool for my tomatoes in pots but they are getting big, over two feet high. I trundle them in and out of my garage. On cloudy days like today I may put them in early and shine my LED gooseneck lamp on them until I go to bed. But I like them to be out in the air...they got a lot of sun yesterday.

Whether I get blossoms and fruit, well, we will see.

Posted by: skywch at May 08, 2021 12:17 PM (Y/Ps0)

77 of course key with growing actual tobacco is to make sure there are no flowers. Think of pot, but the exact opposite. You want no buds to grow, you want everything to go into the leaves.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 12:18 PM (q+CRl)

78 Parsnips can be stored just like carrots, in sand in a cool place. Should keep all winter. Really good roasted. If you like them, plant the tops next year for seed. Parsnip seed has to be fresh to germinate well.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at May 08, 2021 12:18 PM (YynYJ)

79 Buddy of mine caught an 8lb bass off my dock in February.

Obligatory
Robert Earl Keen
Five Pound Bass

https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=k159YGrOQaw

Posted by: Muldoon at May 08, 2021 12:18 PM (Fc5rx)

80 Living in the Willamette valley you would think I could have a productive garden. Nope. After years of trying I pretty much gave up trying to grow vegetables. Fruits on the other hand have been great, blueberries, huckleberries, cherries, boysenberries, and raspberries.

Oddly, strawberries do shit unless they are volunteers which just pop up. Oh, my mystery apple tree does great. Once I get off my but I'll build a grape arbor for the three varieties I have in pots. Were also looking to plant some columnar apples and once I cut down the pie cherry, replace it with a freestone peach tree.

Posted by: Beartooth at May 08, 2021 12:19 PM (m5rW7)

81 I planted GIANT sunflowers !
Posted by: JT at May 08, 2021 12:09 PM (arJlL)

I have the big ones as well, the dwarves will sit at their feet and also in pots on my deck. If all goes well...
Posted by: kallisto

The first year I planted them and they matured, and I was standing there looking at it and thinking "I'll roast the sunflower seeds and give some to this person and some to that person, and while I was thinking this, I watched a squirrel chew the flower off and drag it away !

Posted by: JT at May 08, 2021 12:19 PM (arJlL)

82 I love parsnips too, never planted them though. Great harvest/winter food. Nice accompaniment to pot roast.

Posted by: kallisto at May 08, 2021 12:17 PM (DJFLF)

i agree. You hear little about them from American chefs. The best parsnip recipes come from UK chefs. I recall one with shaved parsnips and pasta from Jamie Oliver.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 12:20 PM (q+CRl)

83 It is a natural pesticide and depending on the
plant, they can have some nice flowers.
Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 12:16 PM (q+CRl)

I like the flowers on nicotiana, called flowering tobacco. The light lime green ones especially

Posted by: kallisto at May 08, 2021 12:20 PM (DJFLF)

84 I watched a squirrel chew the flower off and drag it away !
Posted by: JT at May 08, 2021 12:19 PM (arJlL)

Crafty little bugger! Goldfinches love the seed heads too.

Posted by: kallisto at May 08, 2021 12:21 PM (DJFLF)

85 https://www.youtube.com/watch? v=k159YGrOQaw
Posted by: Muldoon at May 08, 2021 12:18 PM (Fc5rx)

It looks like a toaster!

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 08, 2021 12:21 PM (jvt6t)

86 Watch out for the Blackberries becoming overgrown. My mom lives up in WA where they grow out of control in the wooded areas. When you think of brambles, this it's blackberries. Also, can the raspberries grow in east texas summers? (100 degrees out w/ 95% humidity).

Posted by: redchief at May 08, 2021 12:22 PM (mL4jt)

87
You're lucky living in Texas. Never have to deal with the freezing cold like up north.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 08, 2021 12:23 PM (2iDSr)

88 Can someone explain the Duck tape on the lawn tractor?

Beats me, the last owner put it on. The seat cushion has "slipped" a tiny bit, but the tape doesn't seem to be doing anything. I'll take a closer look at it later today.

Posted by: Weirddave at May 08, 2021 12:23 PM (XgRlp)

89 remove the space

Posted by: Muldoon at May 08, 2021 12:24 PM (Fc5rx)

90 The problem in the wer side of PNW is that it doesn't warm up early enough. And we tend to get cloudy weather up till the solstice. Don't know if we will make 60 degrees today.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at May 08, 2021 12:24 PM (YynYJ)

91 I can't grow a damn thing, black thumb.

Had a willow tree in the back yard that grew great for 15 years then just died. I would have it taken out, but some woodpeckers have been nesting in it the last few years. I let them hollow out a section and have babies, then the section eventually falls apart and throw the wood away.

I've also got a bald cypress that I planted 20 years ago, and it never grew. I keep thinking it will die, but it comes back with leaves every year. Just hasn't grown an inch since I planted it.

My magnolia on the other hand is a monster now. Going to have to hire someone to trim it finally.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 08, 2021 12:25 PM (5p7BC)

92 You're lucky living in Texas. Never have to deal with the freezing cold like up north.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 08, 2021 12:23 PM (2iDSr)

Never, ever

Posted by: BignJames at May 08, 2021 12:25 PM (AwYPR)

93 I once danced a massive tobacco plant around just to find the sun. It was a a labor of love and really a lot of fun. But it is better to have the sun.
Posted by: quint

I gotta tell ya quint : if I ever saw a guy dancing with a tobacco plant, I'd be hard pressed to come up with a reason not to call the boys in the white coats !

Posted by: JT at May 08, 2021 12:26 PM (arJlL)

94 "You're lucky living in Texas. Never have to deal with the freezing cold like up north.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 08, 2021 12:23 PM (2iDSr)"You're joking right?

Posted by: redchief at May 08, 2021 12:26 PM (mL4jt)

95 Posted by: Weirddave at May 08, 2021 12:23 PM (XgRlp) I was hoping it was some trick to stop back pain. Our tractor hurts The Husband's back, even after I had the seat replaced. Thanks for answering.

Posted by: Cindy Munford at May 08, 2021 12:27 PM (wugIS)

96 Mason bee update: I placed 102 tubes this year for my Mason bees to lay their eggs. I have three bee houses. So far they have filled 38 of the tubes. Each tube typically contains about 8 baby bees.

Sad realization was that the local Mason bees that are either native or from previous years bees that did not use the provided tubes tried to use the boarded up bee houses. I put a cover on the front of the houses to winter but there is an opening underneath. Some of these bees came out and were looking for tubes but weren't any an I found 5 female bees in the boarded up houses. Five females equates to about 200 bee babies.

Posted by: Beartooth at May 08, 2021 12:27 PM (m5rW7)

97 Had a willow tree in the back yard that grew great for 15 years then just died. I would have it taken out, but some woodpeckers have been nesting in it the last few years. I let them hollow out a section and have babies, then the section eventually falls apart and throw the wood away.

Call Nurse Ratched !

Posted by: JT at May 08, 2021 12:27 PM (arJlL)

98 My doctor told me not to come here.

Another name on my list of people to, scare the shit out of but don't kill just yet list.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 08, 2021 12:28 PM (o89XP)

99 My magnolia on the other hand is a monster now. Going to have to hire someone to trim it finally.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 08, 2021 12:25 PM (5p7BC)

Not near a drainfield/septic system is it?

Posted by: BignJames at May 08, 2021 12:28 PM (AwYPR)

100 Trip to SC years ago in back country got behind a slow tractor pulling a open wagon of massive size tobacco leaves. One blew off and we debated a bit if we wanted to stop and get it, we didn't. Could have made a cigar with that one.

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2021 12:29 PM (Cxk7w)

101 Howdy Hordelings! My contribution to the gardening thread is a song from REM...

Gardening at Night
https://youtu.be/CRvA4TFLlEk

Posted by: Doof at May 08, 2021 12:31 PM (mZUr4)

102 My gardener is good. He will live.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 08, 2021 12:31 PM (o89XP)

103 Nope, the magnolia it is on the back edge of the property which borders a swamp. No concern for roots back there.

Oddly, I've never heard the woodpeckers. But I can see their shavings on the ground all the time.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 08, 2021 12:32 PM (5p7BC)

104 I had so many critters in my yard when I was in MA, I ended up container gardening. Had great luck with jalape�os which can be pickled and kept in the fridge so no need to can. Also did Poblano peppers which was very rewarding as they are difficult to find in the grocery store. Shishitos also are great.
Weird Dave, did not see the ONT til this morning but it was very entertaining. I will make sure not to miss another Friday night.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 08, 2021 12:32 PM (sd8p8)

105 Forgot to mention that they are leaving me the tree cut up for firewood - I'll get my manual splitter out later this summer when it's dried some. Also, they're leaving me the shredded branches as bark mulch. I was surprised that they would be happy to leave the wood here, but then I realized that if I hadn't wanted to keep it, it would have meant manually hauling every piece of that big trunk and branches uphill to the front of the house and loading it on a truck to haul away. Same with the branches. So it probably saves them a lot of time and work just to leave the remains with the owner.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at May 08, 2021 12:33 PM (85TNs)

106 Where can I get seeds or seedlings (tobacco)?

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at May 08, 2021 12:09 PM (xopIz)

in SC you can probably get seedlings pretty easy. The fun is raising them from the pepper flakes. I am making it sound very hard but really it is just a process. the funny thing about tobacco is you never really know when you are done. You raise it, and one day there are some amazing plants with leaves you can imagine. Then you have to decide what to do with them when they are ripe.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 12:33 PM (q+CRl)

107
You're joking right?

Posted by: redchief at May 08, 2021 12:26 PM (mL4jt)

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A reasonable assumption.

Actually, I was idly wondering. Is the recent winter anomaly in the gulf coast a one-off freakish once-in-a-millenium event, or some sort of inflection point? I understand that only time will tell. Like in Southern CA, where we never know if a dry year is a one-off, or the start of a 20-year dry spell.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 08, 2021 12:34 PM (2iDSr)

108 WeirdDave, I hope you plan on putting up deer proof fencing. And something to keep out the bunnies. And the birds.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - The Original Fanilow (since 1974) at May 08, 2021 12:35 PM (SRRAx)

109 We used to leave peanuts in the shell for the squirrels and bluejays. The squirrels would run off with them and bury them, so that one year I discovered a couple of peanut plants growing among my geraniums! I'm surprised that roasted peanuts would grow, but a few much have still had some life in them. The plants didn't survive, unfortunately; the squirrels dug them up to eat the sprouted peanuts!

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at May 08, 2021 12:36 PM (85TNs)

110 Nice, looks like a place on Greenbriar Lake some friends in Chandler used to have.

Posted by: Only Context at May 08, 2021 12:38 PM (xEIoY)

111 The Farmers Almanac will tell you everything you need about growing zones and planting times. It's a handy bit of information.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 08, 2021 12:40 PM (jvt6t)

112 All of my summer squash seeds are finally up and I've got about a dozen tiny little cherry tomatoes. Still waiting on my paste and canning tomatoes to flower.

I started 3 winter squash (delicata) this year. I've never grown winter squash before, so we'll see how that goes. It's supposed to taste like sweet potatoes. I have doubts.

I have some serious envy over that lawn mower and lake.

Posted by: G. Gnome, Pickled Watermelon Rind Queen at May 08, 2021 12:41 PM (OQcPl)

113 Beats me, the last owner put it on. The seat cushion has "slipped" a tiny bit, but the tape doesn't seem to be doing anything. I'll take a closer look at it later today.
Posted by: Weirddave at May 08, 2021 12:23 PM (XgRlp)

It keeps you in the seat after a few beers. Just in case.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 08, 2021 12:42 PM (jvt6t)

114 you can air dry it, kiln it , or ferment it like the cigar guys do. The last option is pretty unlikely to be honest. At the least you will air dry the leaves by hanging them for quite a while. It is a real education. Even at that point, depending on the leaf, you have not gone far enough. At some point it needs to be fermented in some way. But that is part of the fun. Don't let me dissuade you. And if all else fails, you have a great plant in the garden. And if you don't harvest tobacco, you will be rewarded by thousands of seeds. shit, you can sell them on ebay.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 12:42 PM (q+CRl)

115 A reasonable assumption.

Actually, I was idly wondering. Is the recent winter anomaly in the
gulf coast a one-off freakish once-in-a-millenium event, or some sort of
inflection point? I understand that only time will tell. Like in
Southern CA, where we never know if a dry year is a one-off, or the
start of a 20-year dry spell.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 08, 2021 12:34 PM (2iDSr)
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I actually grew up in San Diego where it was always Sunny and 72 degrees out. The thing about growing up in southern CA is you don't really understand seasons because there aren't any. I moved to Tyler TX 7 months ago...and boy have I learned.

Posted by: redchief at May 08, 2021 12:43 PM (mL4jt)

116 actually grew up in San Diego where it was always
Sunny and 72 degrees out. The thing about growing up in southern CA is
you don't really understand seasons because there aren't any. I moved to
Tyler TX 7 months ago...and boy have I learned.

Posted by: redchief at May 08, 2021 12:43 PM (mL4jt)

The Rose Capital.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 12:44 PM (q+CRl)

117 actually grew up in San Diego where it was always

Sunny and 72 degrees out. The thing about growing up in southern CA is

you don't really understand seasons because there aren't any. I moved to

Tyler TX 7 months ago...and boy have I learned.
that is a huge switch. people ask me where i want to live. I say San Diego in the 1970s.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 12:45 PM (q+CRl)

118 I just came in from mowing. I still use a push mower even though I have 3 heavily wooded acres. I mow in stages.

I like the Zen of push mowing.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 08, 2021 12:46 PM (yQpMk)

119 Snowing here in southwest Montana, so plans for the garden today are on hold.

Posted by: jix at May 08, 2021 12:46 PM (mYahd)

120 wait a second. I have taken over the gardening thread?

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 12:47 PM (q+CRl)

121 I think Pixy is a great addition to the Ace. Inc..

ALL the writers here are much than those Trashy men's magazines.

Being tortured by naked Nazi babes with an M80 tied to your dick...... Boring. Use only karens not Nazis

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 08, 2021 12:49 PM (o89XP)

122 Zero-turn mower? I think I'd much rather have one you can turn and change direction.
Posted by: JROD at May 08, 2021 11:45 AM (0jZnq)

According to Eratosthenes, if you just keep going in one direction, you'll eventually end up where you started. It just may be crackpot theory, but there you go.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 08, 2021 12:50 PM (fLVm1)

123 For reference, the last time North Texas had that kind of a winter storm, Mr. TiFW had just gone up there a week earlier for a job interview while still in college.

He retired last month after 37 years.

So, yeah, it doesn't happen all that often, but when it does, we are SOL!

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - The Original Fanilow (since 1974) at May 08, 2021 12:50 PM (SRRAx)

124 Living the good life there, Dave. Happy for you and yours and continued thanks for your posts.

Posted by: SamIam at May 08, 2021 12:50 PM (oasF3)

125 According to Eratosthenes, if you just keep going in one direction, you'll eventually end up where you started. It just may be crackpot theory, but there you go.

Wherever you go, there you are. - Yogi

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 08, 2021 12:51 PM (yQpMk)

126 actually grew up in San Diego where it was always
Sunny and 72 degrees out. The thing about growing up in southern CA is
you don't really understand seasons because there aren't any. I moved to
Tyler TX 7 months ago...and boy have I learned.

Ha! Coming to Tyler from Baltimore it's been almost the opposite experience. Although the "once-in-a-generation" snow this past winter was amusing.

"Guys, it's 8" of snow, what's the big deal?"

Natives: *Muppet flail* "AAAAAAAAARRRRRRGH!"

Posted by: Weirddave at May 08, 2021 12:53 PM (XgRlp)

127 I not shit about gardening. I will shut up now and hope level heads prevail.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 12:53 PM (q+CRl)

128 that is a huge switch. people ask me where i want to live. I say San Diego in the 1970s.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 12:45 PM (q+CRl)
-----Moved away from there in '92 to go to school (lived in a city called Poway). Worst decision I ever made as I didnt realize how nice it was until after I left. Now though, SD has just become like the rest of coastal CA.

I really like Texas now. Not only because I have no problems buying guns (which will tragically be lost in a boating accident on Lake Palestine), but also because the people are just generally nice.

Posted by: redchief at May 08, 2021 12:54 PM (mL4jt)

129 Natives: *Muppet flail* "AAAAAAAAARRRRRRGH!"

Posted by: Weirddave at May 08, 2021 12:53 PM (XgRlp)

i will tell ya my Deep South snowstorm story some day.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 12:55 PM (q+CRl)

130 Here are my peppers. I planted the seeds 23 March. They've been topped once. They are Serranos, Candy Cane sweet peppers, and Txorixero sweet peppers.

https://___ur.coTxorixero Sweet Pepperm/a/mP8fH7q

Posted by: bonhomme at May 08, 2021 12:55 PM (i0wNm)

131 quint does it involve more than a inch of white stuff?

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2021 12:56 PM (Cxk7w)

132 I really like Texas now. Not only because I have no
problems buying guns (which will tragically be lost in a boating
accident on Lake Palestine), but also because the people are just
generally nice.

Posted by: redchief at May 08, 2021 12:54 PM (mL4jt)

it is a huge difference. Texas means friendly as they say. But it is not joke. You come from the coasts and it is a legit culture shock.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 12:57 PM (q+CRl)

133 >>>I figured I better throw something up

A hairball?

Posted by: m at May 08, 2021 12:57 PM (nzEdf)

134 Link fail

https://bit.ly/2Rwh3y9

Posted by: bonhomme at May 08, 2021 12:57 PM (i0wNm)

135

Wherever you go there you are going to step in a pile of shit It may be steaming, quiescent, or even frozen. But it will either squish between your toes or stick to the bottom of your shoes no matter what. Shit, you gonna step in it, track it in the house, and eat it.

Posted by: Dirty Franklin at May 08, 2021 12:57 PM (o6NKx)

136 quint does it involve more than a inch of white stuff?

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2021 12:56 PM (Cxk7w)

way more.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 12:57 PM (q+CRl)

137 i will tell ya my Deep South snowstorm story some day.

Heh. I was traveling through North Carolina a while back when they got 1/2" of snow. I was starving and it took me an hour to find an open Waffle House, because everything else was "Closed for the blizzard". I shit you not.

Posted by: Weirddave at May 08, 2021 12:57 PM (XgRlp)

138

Life sucks then you pay taxes on your life sucks.

Posted by: Dirty Franklin at May 08, 2021 12:58 PM (ofnI9)

139 I have heard horror tales in the south that fractions of a inch caused.

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2021 12:58 PM (Cxk7w)

140 See? I told you it happens

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2021 01:00 PM (Cxk7w)

141 I grew parsnip seed from the top of one I bought at the store. It was putting out some leaves so I thought I'd see how it did. They are really impressive plants and didn't require much care.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at May 08, 2021 01:00 PM (YynYJ)

142 That zero turn Weird Dave?
Beauty is that there's a place in Iowa that will sell you a replacement engine, plug and play.
I upgraded ours by about 4 hp. Less than $500 to my door.

Posted by: MkY (Lost my AR) at May 08, 2021 01:00 PM (Foq6I)

143 Ha! Coming to Tyler from Baltimore it's been almost the opposite experience. Although the "once-in-a-generation" snow this past winter was amusing.

Posted by: Weirddave at May 08, 2021 12:53 PM (XgRlp)

---

The snow we got in January? That was cool, snow. Feb though was God saying "you liked Jan? here, hold my beer".

You bought at the right time. Land/Housing is going to go up, a lot (unless you live in the north side of town). I just finally signed my divorce paperwork yesterday but won't be able to buy anything for at least another year+.

Posted by: redchief at May 08, 2021 01:01 PM (mL4jt)

144 Also...figure out which range you like for shooting?

Posted by: redchief at May 08, 2021 01:01 PM (mL4jt)

145 We've been trying to learn to grow parsnips. Here in KC area, it gets too hot for them mid-summer, but we figgered if medieval serfs could grow them, by yolly yosh, we could.
We're still learning. Got a small crop last year.

Posted by: MkY (Lost my AR) at May 08, 2021 01:02 PM (Foq6I)

146 I moved to Nevada recently from Tejas.

More culture shock in the whole country is so very much worst than Taiwan. Science there works better.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 08, 2021 01:02 PM (o89XP)

147 it is nothing exciting, I wish it was. We were were 18 year olds and coming back from Nova to South Texas. The first flickers of snow were at Fredericksburg. I thought it was pretty. The other guys were jagoffs who could not drive a stick shift, it was me, myslef and I.

We didn't get out of the massive snow 'til someplace in LA. What was a 24 hour trip on the way out was three days on the way back, and that was pushing it as hard as you can get. We didn't make it out of VA the first day. The next day we barely got passed NC. 95 was a one lane road and every hotel and restaurant was full of stranded travelers.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 01:02 PM (q+CRl)

148 Hey, thanks for filling in, WeirdDave! The garden looks great. Check with your local extension agency master gardeners about when to plant Brussels sprouts. Don't wait on harvesting broccoli.

Get you cukes on a trellis.

Posted by: KT at May 08, 2021 01:03 PM (wZWNF)

149 Quint, I didn't know tobacco had to be fermented.
Why? All that tobacco I smoke is fermented?

Posted by: MkY (Lost my AR) at May 08, 2021 01:04 PM (Foq6I)

150 it is a huge difference. Texas means friendly as
they say. But it is not joke. You come from the coasts and it is a legit
culture shock.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 12:57 PM (q+CRl)
-----It's infectious too. I've found myself saying "Sir" now to other people. I never did that before (blame being from CA).

Posted by: redchief at May 08, 2021 01:04 PM (mL4jt)

151 We found brussel sprouts real easy to grow. We could NOT keep the worms off them.

Posted by: MkY (Lost my AR) at May 08, 2021 01:04 PM (Foq6I)

152 Redchief,

Haven't found a range yet, I've just been shooting my .22 on my property. You should drop by for dinner sometime. Send me an email, my nic at gee, mail!

Posted by: Weirddave at May 08, 2021 01:05 PM (XgRlp)

153 My yard is no longer neglected and overgrown! Things are looking up at last!
Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at May 08, 2021 12:16 PM (85TNs)
It's the time to take out dead trees. We just got rid of three Arizona Ash trees. It's like we have a whole new yard. We also had grape vines, poison ivy and who knows what other weeds growing up the trees so we're poisoning everything that looks like a vine or bush and waiting before we put in new stuff. I'd hate to have poison ivy growing in our brand new vegetable garden.

Posted by: gingeroni at May 08, 2021 01:06 PM (X7FeU)

154 I remember in GA and AL, they were using bull dozers to plow the snow. All that accomplished was creating a three or four inch block of ice. I am telling you the entire South was shut down. We were dumb and my compadres were jerks. They kept pushing me to drive on lol. I don't know how we made it through there is three days. one night we tried fifteen motels. Even my dad, a serious dude, hate to reign shit on them and even then it didn't work. It was nice we were young, it was "an experience".

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 01:06 PM (q+CRl)

155 Mason bees! We have some of those guys (and gals) great little workers.

Posted by: Funsize at May 08, 2021 01:06 PM (EiPf6)

156 Beautiful garden and view!

If Jim is here, thanks for the factoids on Starlink. I had meant to ask about if Musk had planned for their destruction/return but didn't get the chance.

Posted by: LASue at May 08, 2021 01:08 PM (Ed8Zd)

157 Beartooth, choose your peach variety carefully. Most are not adapted to the Willamette Valley.

Posted by: KT at May 08, 2021 01:08 PM (wZWNF)

158 Wingnut, we are new Arkansans. There's another 'ette nearby. Maybe we should MoMe sometime?

Posted by: Emmie at May 08, 2021 01:08 PM (ofYez)

159 When you have manners, some give you that Forest Gump look.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 08, 2021 01:08 PM (o89XP)

160 Yay, KT makes an appearance! How's it going? You're in my prayers.

Posted by: Emmie at May 08, 2021 01:09 PM (ofYez)

161 Quint, I didn't know tobacco had to be fermented.

Why? All that tobacco I smoke is fermented?

Posted by: MkY (Lost my AR) at May 08, 2021 01:04 PM (Foq6I)

pretty much yes. Hogmartin and I discussed this years ago. His idea was to mix some air dried tobacco into a pipe mix. I thought it was a good idea. But yeah, tobacco is a real chore. The majority of it has to be fermented in some way. Cigar tobacco, chewing tobacco, cigs, and everything. that is why I said it is a labor of love. And then if you get the end, then you have to figure out what you want to do with it.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 01:09 PM (q+CRl)

162 I have heard horror tales in the south that fractions of a inch caused.

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2021 12:58 P

Try west of the Cascades. These fools close down if there is even a hint of a snow dusting in the forecast. Now I may be a bit jaded growing up in Montana and living in other cold weather states but the hysteria here of a possible snow storm unhinges these people.

Afterwards, to hear their war stories is simply to be astonished. You'd think they were with Jack London on the frozen Yukon river with the wolves closing in.

Posted by: Beartooth at May 08, 2021 01:10 PM (m5rW7)

163 The big drawback to zero-turn mowers is that it takes both hands to steer them, which really puts a cramp in your beer-drinking.

Any of the computer-nerd Morons want to join me in developing a computer-driven add-on electric power steer attachment for zero-steer mowers? I'll bet we could make bank selling them in the aftermarket.

Joy stick>Raspberry Pi>motor drivers>jackscrews that move levers.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 08, 2021 01:11 PM (Rns6E)

164 It's a shame more people don't try fall gardening. Cool weather crops here do better in the fall than spring. If I plant in the spring, they don't grow mush because it's too cool and cloudy. Then we get a few sunny days and they bolt.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at May 08, 2021 01:12 PM (YynYJ)

165 Beats me, the last owner put it on. The seat cushion has "slipped" a tiny bit, but the tape doesn't seem to be doing anything. I'll take a closer look at it later today.
Posted by: Weirddave at May 08, 2021 12:23 PM (XgRlp)

We have some neighbors that arrived from Cali. I have invited them over for dinner, always wave or say "hi" and it's like I'm a Jehovah's Witness trying to sell them a vacuum or something. It's been two years.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 08, 2021 01:12 PM (jvt6t)

166 Beartooth, choose your peach variety carefully. Most are not adapted to the Willamette Valley.

Posted by: KT at May 08,

Thanks for the tip KT. And get well soon! Now that there are a number of bee tubes filled I get a picture and send them into to you.

Posted by: Beartooth at May 08, 2021 01:12 PM (m5rW7)

167 Hmmm....wrong copy/paste.......

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 08, 2021 01:13 PM (jvt6t)

168 According to Eratosthenes, if you just keep going in one direction, you'll eventually end up where you started. It just may be crackpot theory, but there you go.

Chesterton said, 'There are two ways of getting home; and one of them is to stay there. The other is to walk round the whole world till we come back to the same place.'

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at May 08, 2021 01:14 PM (a4Aer)

169 quint try poppies. On TVvvvv they can grow poppies by the Missouri River. But I never hear about big DEA busts on TVvvvvv.

Information for independent living can be tricky.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 08, 2021 01:17 PM (o89XP)

170 Oh,,,I don't watch TVvvvv. I should say that.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 08, 2021 01:18 PM (o89XP)

171 It's the little things that make me hate humanity most.

Ambulance was loading up a dude at the next business in the strip mall. Dudes on a gurney, EMTs are parked perpendicular behind cars that are facing strip mall. A spot is open even with the back of the ambulance and EMTs are trying to wheel the gurney to the back of the ambulance through the empty parking spot to load the guy up and some middle-aged broad decides shes going to pull into the spot squeezing by the back of the ambulance. As she rounds the ambulance she sees gurney and EMT turns head. Lady throws her hands up like "Are you gonna move?"

EMTs start to pull gurney back up on sidewalk and then I snapped. I walked up to the broad and told her to back up. She gives me a cross look. I lost it. I said "What the f*ck is wrong with you? They are trying to load up this guy that might be f*cking dying."

She backs up and parks in the spot 100 feet away across the parking lot. EMT just gives me a "Damn. Thanks buddy" look.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 08, 2021 01:19 PM (94SgI)

172 quint try poppies. On TVvvvv they can grow poppies by the Missouri River. But I never hear about big DEA busts on TVvvvvv.

Information for independent living can be tricky.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 08, 2021 01:17 PM (o89XP)

i am old school, booze and all, think of the 70s outlaw country songs. But I have heard people have failed drug tests by eating poppy cakes or whatever they are called. too much old school going around I guess.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 01:19 PM (q+CRl)

173 San Diego in the 70's.

Oh yeah.

Posted by: pawn at May 08, 2021 01:19 PM (Cfk8j)

174 WeirdDave, if you planted squash you have no fear of an empty garden, those things sprawl everywhere. And they come back from seed.

You will start getting out of certain seasons and you can replant those areas, the spinach might bolt on you, for example, and then you can plant something else that does better in the late summer and fall, like bokchoi or Swiss chard for winter.

I have gobs of pepper seed sprouting, both a Korean type and Cayenne, and I have melons and more tomatoes sprouting too. As soon as I get some true leaves and some warmer weather I think I can plant them.

I get anxious to get plants in this time of year, but I always think it is late.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 08, 2021 01:21 PM (ZCKW7)

175 She backs up and parks in the spot 100 feet away across the parking lot. EMT just gives me a "Damn. Thanks buddy" look.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 08, 2021 01:19 PM (94SgI)

Woman was long overdue for a cnut pnut.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 08, 2021 01:25 PM (Rns6E)

176 One nice side effect of growing squash is that they can trail through your garden, and they produce such big leaves they block the sun for weeds trying to come up. They are quite effective at suppressing weeds, almost like a living mulch.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at May 08, 2021 01:27 PM (a4Aer)

177 We didn't get out of the massive snow 'til someplace
in LA. What was a 24 hour trip on the way out was three days on the way
back, and that was pushing it as hard as you can get. We didn't make it
out of VA the first day. The next day we barely got passed NC. 95 was a
one lane road and every hotel and restaurant was full of stranded
travelers.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 01:02 PM (q+CRl)

looking back, I recall that in "Quint voice". but all kidding around, it was a pretty amazing experience. We were too young to care. But I do recall pulling off every overpass and trying every hotel in around. Even at the local Stuckeys or whatever, they were all full of people with no place to go. WE were dumb so we kept going I legit tell you the interstate was a one lane road and it was us, some plows, and the cops. I recall walking in Alabama on a foot of snow with ice on top. I think it was 1988 or around that time.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 01:27 PM (q+CRl)

178 One nice side effect of growing squash is that they can trail through your garden, and they produce such big leaves they block the sun for weeds trying to come up. They are quite effective at suppressing weeds, almost like a living mulch.
Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at May 08, 2021 01:27 PM (a4Aer)

And they do a good job of consuming the hobo bodies, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 08, 2021 01:28 PM (Rns6E)

179 My next big attempt is to build a fruit dryer. I picked up a mini-chest freezer that a neighbor was going to take to the dump, and my goal is to strip it out, bleach it until it seems clean, put in a heater element and a PC fan, and build racks for it.

It might get done before August . . . .

Posted by: Kindltot at May 08, 2021 01:30 PM (ZCKW7)

180 And they do a good job of consuming the hobo bodies, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 08, 2021 01:28 PM (Rns6E)

Then you can make your own bonemeal fertilizer out of what's left. That's what I call sustainability!

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at May 08, 2021 01:30 PM (a4Aer)

181 maybe 1989

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 01:31 PM (q+CRl)

182 I would drink and did drink. Then my genetic code changed and after that there are a thousand reasons like dominoes.

I will drink at the next election or war. Whichever comes first.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 08, 2021 01:31 PM (o89XP)

183 We had a tiny bit of leftover wood fence at the corner of the house. There used to be a shed back there, and when we had the rest of the fence replaced with green chainlink, this little bit was stranded so we just left it. Now we want to finish the fence so I started taking down some of the boards, mostly to create access to that side of yard (the other side is too narrow). I took down one layer of boards (treated pine) and then started taking the shorter boards of the old original fence behind it, and I find that that old fence was made of cedar planking! Now I'm excited that I can reuse these boards to make a nice, durable compost bin.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at May 08, 2021 01:34 PM (a4Aer)

184 Well, I am going to go outside, and do something with the day. Play in the shop. Not raining at the moment, but it has been, and probably will again, soon.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 08, 2021 01:35 PM (Rns6E)

185 Is there a no fuss way to grow a bunch of wild flowers? We have some barren patches in the back yard. I was just goring to rake up the packed earth, throw some flower seeds on there and then scatter some potting soil on top and water like crazy. I don't know anything about gardening.

On a side note we are growing tomatoes in pots this year. I found some trick on YouTube where you throw sardines in the pot and cover with coffee grounds. The plants are growing at a crazy rate. Bigger every day.

Posted by: Max Power at May 08, 2021 01:38 PM (QCc6B)

186 Wow, Max...heard about coffee grounds but not the sardines. Will have to try that with my container maters.

Posted by: skywch at May 08, 2021 01:44 PM (Y/Ps0)

187 testing:

Chris Cuomo --> ᾒ

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 08, 2021 01:47 PM (PiwSw)

188 On a side note we are growing tomatoes in pots this year. I found some trick on YouTube where you throw sardines in the pot and cover with coffee grounds. The plants are growing at a crazy rate. Bigger every day.
Posted by: Max Power

Hmmm....sound like olde Indian trick. Plant corn (we call it maize) with fish. Corn grow strong and tall!

Posted by: Bozo Conservative ....fake Saturday Indian at May 08, 2021 01:47 PM (tjZg/)

189 Has anyone tried the Tertill weeders? (Aka the Roomba for gardens)

Posted by: Redchief at May 08, 2021 01:48 PM (EC6sj)

190 Not sure if you've grown them before Dave but squash, watermelon and cantaloupe will take up more space than you might think. That garden will be full for sure.

Posted by: dartist at May 08, 2021 01:49 PM (+ya+t)

191 "That's my garden at the new house."

There are bugs in that ground that will eat the roots.
Devastated my radishes and spinach.
Snails and slugs love squash.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 08, 2021 01:49 PM (JfK3f)

192 Colonial Pipeline shut down its 5,500 miles of pipeline, which runs from Texas to New York, late Friday by the operator, according to a statement.

The cyberattack forced the shutdown of one of the largest pipelines in the United States, according to the New York Times. This appeared to be a significant attempt in order to disrupt vulnerable energy infrastructure since the pipeline carries refined gasoline and jet fuel up the East Coast.

Breitbart

Posted by: SMH at May 08, 2021 01:50 PM (FdY5T)

193 Accidentally found a methane pocket or vein on my property while trying to get rid of a groundhog.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 08, 2021 01:52 PM (h2OUV)

194 Afterwards, to hear their war stories is simply to
be astonished. You'd think they were with Jack London on the frozen
Yukon river with the wolves closing in.

Posted by: Beartooth at May 08, 2021 01:10 PM (m5rW7)
don't ever move to the DC area, you will truly lose your shit. It doesn't matter that they have legit snows every few years. It doesn't matter that they have true blizzards once in a while. The place is described as "transient" So regardless, they truly go ape S ever single time. We used to have so many snow days that they planned two weeks of them into our school calendar. We thought it was great until we had to go deep into Summer to make up those snow days.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 01:53 PM (q+CRl)

195 My experience is most squash can be bothersome but worth growing, spaghetti squash will take over a garden.

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2021 01:53 PM (Cxk7w)

196 194 Accidentally found a methane pocket or vein on my property while trying to get rid of a groundhog.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 08, 2021 01:52 PM (h2OUV)

Ancient Hobo burial ground.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 08, 2021 01:53 PM (jvt6t)

197 I will drink at the next election or war. Whichever comes first.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 08, 2021 01:31 PM (o89XP)

save your cash and forget about drinking.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 01:54 PM (q+CRl)

198 Still considerable variation in coastal CA - but San Diego's slipping more and more.

Two different categories here. Most of the "issues" have nothing, or little, to do with real/imagined "leftist" "progressive" idiocies. The number of people, the development, traffic, prices - these have been going the wrong way since the days it was a military town and solidly "conservative". And those are the main negatives - so far.

The other category, of idiotic damage caused by stupid politix, affects different groups of people and different locations differently. Many, not at all - directly - and thus the "sustainability" of these pernicious trends.

And if you're not an outdoor person, an ocean person, a desert person, then the unique amazing qualities of the area, which remain essentially the same as ever, don't matter, so in that case things like income taxes, housing prices etc might be the deciding issue.

Prop 13 goes, we go. But not necessarily anywhere else in the US.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 08, 2021 01:54 PM (OTzUX)

199 Max Power, that is a no fuss way to grow weeds with a couple of wild flowers

Posted by: KT at May 08, 2021 01:55 PM (wZWNF)

200 Has anyone tried the Tertill weeders? (Aka the Roomba for gardens)

Posted by: Redchief at May 08, 2021 01:48 PM (EC6sj)

is that like this?

https://tinyurl.com/ps8yuwvn

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 01:57 PM (q+CRl)

201 My magnolia on the other hand is a monster now. Going to have to hire someone to trim it finally.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 08, 2021 12:25 PM (5p7BC)

My neighbor has a magnolia tree. For those hordlings that are from northern climes - magnolias are not really a New York loving tree - only in the most extreme heat and humidity will that not shed their very waxy large leaves - so my neighbor's magnolia weeps constantly its large waxy leaves onto my property. I can't ask him to cut it down - in the summer it reminds me of my youth in South Carolina. So I much them up with my lawn mower - but man I miss the south...

Posted by: Boswell at May 08, 2021 01:57 PM (w2LAm)

202 Max, get some flower plants that grow like weeds. Dig holes with jagged edges I'm prepared ground. Plant.

Posted by: KT at May 08, 2021 01:59 PM (wZWNF)

203 So far my gardening has been to fill a low spot with some potting soil. Smoothed it out REAL NICE! Then an animal came and dug it all up.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at May 08, 2021 02:00 PM (buTO7)

204 PET NOOD

Posted by: Skip guy who says NOOD at May 08, 2021 02:02 PM (Cxk7w)

205 They have been mapping methane closer to this area in the last few years. They said it's not down this far. But I can assure you the 4 meter flame that shot out of the ground like a blowtorch was for realz. It started killing and drying the grass last year. I thought it was bugs and a groundhog. Nope.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 08, 2021 02:02 PM (h2OUV)

206 Love Russian TV around this time - Victory Day - lots of good documentaries and interviews with (now) descendants of WWII vets (just had a program with Americans, Brits, French, AND Russians). Big parade is tonight, our time.

Theme this year - "one for all".

Was actually true, of course. Survival, self-defense, actual patriotism overcame the fear and hatred of Stalinism to deliver the victory.

And what a good, if kind of sickening, contrast, with "we're all in this together". The initial response of Americans was outstanding, truly was responsible and "patriotic" and looking out for each other. This noble move was rewarded with historic abuse from incompetent/dishonest/power-mad political authorities, and evolved into Stasi-like behavior among many.

In any case, to see a large country that still actively and aggressively celebrates or even thinks about important times in its history makes me envious.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 08, 2021 02:03 PM (OTzUX)

207 Cilantro is slug food and there is little you can do to stop it. We tried egg shells.

Mint will take over half the yard if you let it.
...
Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 12:01 PM (q+CRl)
----------------

Bought some snail and slug food at Lowe's.
Wally didn't and Homley Depot didn't have any.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 08, 2021 02:04 PM (JfK3f)

208 In the prepared ground, Max. I don't do well without a computer.

Posted by: KT at May 08, 2021 02:05 PM (wZWNF)

209 One evasive species of vine I would warn against, and you get these a lot in decorative pots of begonias and what not at the garden store, is verbena vine. Its has a wonderful purple like flower in the spring up north, and lovely striped leaves - but the vine gets into everything. And its tough to get rid of if you need to change garden plants. The vine itself is tough and hard to pull up and the it clings and gets into every bush. Avoid if you are trying to keep a tight, symmetric garden that doesn't look messy.

Posted by: Boswell at May 08, 2021 02:07 PM (w2LAm)

210 Nice info on the Mason bees, Beartooth.

Posted by: KT at May 08, 2021 02:08 PM (wZWNF)

211 Wingnut, we are new Arkansans. There's another 'ette nearby. Maybe we should MoMe sometime?
Posted by: Emmie at May 08, 2021 01:08 PM (ofYez)

Hi Emmie. I've been here now since I got retired back in '09, but mostly in Mena or Hot Springs. Did go to a (very small) MoMe at Lake of the Ozarks last fall (gave me a chance to ride new roads) so I'm certainly up for an ArMoMe. Just need enough planning time since my better half hates spending nights alone on the mountain (or at the lake). Email is p period tex period dahl atsign outlook period com

Posted by: Wingnut at May 08, 2021 02:09 PM (2W9Jj)

212 Taking a break from transplanting seedlings I've been putting off. I hope they won't be too far behind. 48 plants including 3 different tomatoes, 4 different peppers, basil, parsley and rosemary. Set up mouse traps around them to keep the little bastards from eating them. I hate those mieces to pieces!

Posted by: dartist at May 08, 2021 02:09 PM (+ya+t)

213 Posted by: rhomboid at May 08, 2021 01:54 PM (OTzUX)
it happened the same to So Cal as it did to NOVA but in So Cal it was many years prior. I am not crapping on another place but I saw it with my own eyes and so did the military folk. Crap, to be honest, there were problems in So Cal in the 80s, when it was still mainly Repub. Military people have a way of keeping a place reasonably conservative. In Nova, it didnt' take hold 'til well after the 200s. Sure it became lib, but not that kind of lib.
I recall when Nova was at least nominally Repub, yet statist. It wasn't until the last ten years when they became legit leftist weirdos. I know people who grew up here who don't recognize the place. At worst they were statist Dem bureaucrats. To deny that is to have never known the place. Now it is a leftist shit hole. The rich still live where they live and it barely touches them. But everyone else sees it and feels it. It is shocking for a former "military town" to turn into this. i know young people still want to come here. As someone who grew up there, I have to wonder why.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 02:10 PM (q+CRl)

214 KT hope their treating you well

Posted by: Skip at May 08, 2021 02:11 PM (Cxk7w)

215 Boswell, that's supposed to be reported to our extension office when we find it here. We are still fighting invasive mustard.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 08, 2021 02:13 PM (yKPAy)

216 Bought some snail and slug food at Lowe's.

Wally didn't and Homley Depot didn't have any.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 08, 2021 02:04 PM (JfK3f)
if it is Cilantro I am sure they will like it.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 02:14 PM (q+CRl)

217 Boswell, that's supposed to be reported to our extension office when we find it here. We are still fighting invasive mustard.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 08, 2021 02:13 PM (yKPAy)

Ha - I knew it - these various vines that they stick into those flowering pots should be not be sold - they are really hard to get rid of and they are like bamboo - impossible to eradicate when they take hold of a landscape.

Posted by: Boswell at May 08, 2021 02:21 PM (w2LAm)

218 Get well KT. Thanks for covering, Dave. I'll be curious how your raspberries do. I could never grow them in Texas, but I was in central Texas where the soil is alkaline and the water is hard. You're in East Texas where the soil is acidic and there is plenty of soft rainwater.

Posted by: Cumberland Astro at May 08, 2021 02:25 PM (d9Cw3)

219 Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 02:10 PM (q+CRl)

NoVa has it worse then SD/SoCal due to dc and the federal bureaucracy. Look what the median income is in the counties surrounding DC.

Posted by: redchief at May 08, 2021 02:40 PM (mL4jt)

220 I gotta tell ya quint : if I ever saw a guy dancing
with a tobacco plant, I'd be hard pressed to come up with a reason not
to call the boys in the white coats !

Posted by: JT at May 08, 2021 12:26 PM (arJlL)

i wasn't well at the time

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 02:40 PM (q+CRl)

221 Suggestions on getting rid of horsetail/snake-grass once and for all?

Posted by: redchief at May 08, 2021 02:41 PM (mL4jt)

222 NoVa has it worse then SD/SoCal due to dc and the
federal bureaucracy. Look what the median income is in the counties
surrounding DC.

Posted by: redchief at May 08, 2021 02:40 PM (mL4jt)

Loudon County used to be horse country. Now it is horse faced Karen country. They have castles that would boggle the mind, but not even one brain cell among them. I weep for VA because they have simply been overrun. You can ask them to come out, because a ton of conservatives live there, but it won't matter. The Left took over VA because it was a scalp to take. They came from worse places, and chose to make VA worse. Enough said really, that is the entire story.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 02:45 PM (q+CRl)

223 What?
No cup holder?

Posted by: Diogenes at May 08, 2021 03:10 PM (axyOa)

224 They came from worse places, and chose to make VA worse. Enough said really, that is the entire story.

Posted by: quint at May 08, 2021 02:45 PM (q+CRl)

Yes, and yes. Horrible people. Glad I'm outta there.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - #SuperStraight at May 08, 2021 03:36 PM (Mzdiz)

225 I've been procrastinating getting my tomatoes and peppers out. This is just for the space in front of the garage and screen porch (south facing, with a water faucet right there). It was mulched when the house was completed last fall, so I figured I might as well get my potted perennials in there. I'll also plant some annuals, and squash and maybe an eggplant or two. I'm hoping the deer won't come this close.
Publius has yet to plow the "real" garden, for corn and beans and okra etc. We're almost to the [planned] third planting of corn, with nary a seed down. Two procrastinators!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - #SuperStraight at May 08, 2021 03:41 PM (Mzdiz)

226 A garden without a 7 foot deer fence. How quaint.

Posted by: lonetown at May 08, 2021 04:55 PM (DBvc7)

227 I am looking into getting a little 8x10 greenhouse. Gardening in Colorado can be heartbreaking, between all the late snows, wind, hail, prairie dogs, rabbits and deer we get. The kids at the high school are making them, for the price of materials. They are not cheap, but there is a waiting list for next spring that is up to 80 people (they do about a dozen a year). If you want one this summer, you will be paying for the kids to work. Still thinking about it, but the people who have gotten them say they are wonderful and hold up very nicely to the wind. Personally I LIKE the idea of paying kids to actually do something useful during the summer.

Posted by: Nancy at 7000 ft at May 08, 2021 05:22 PM (0tmoY)

228 From Boise area: Thanks go to WeirdDave for starting the thread - prayers for KT!

Asparagus has started but is only putting up skinny ones so far. Spinach leaves are big enough to pick a few, but something else is nibbling them. Something's also nibbling baby cabbage (had to replant some). It's not eating the lettuce, though (had to replant some). 3 potato bags of German Butterball were looking great (2 per bag) but got tips frosted last night. 7 bags of fingerlings (2 per bag) growing more slowly than the Butterballs. Much trouble getting peas to germinate - got 2 plants out of 20, so replanted 18 - then got 4 more plants and had to replant 14. We'll see how those do - it's the first try growing them in the corn patch area, so maybe that's the issue.
/part 1/

Posted by: Pat* at May 08, 2021 05:33 PM (2pX/F)

229 Our tomatoes went from triumph to disaster. We planted them on Valentines Day, didn't lose any to damping off and were proud of ourselves - but suddenly, this month, all of them looked very bad. We think overwatering? So we planted them out in a hurry, with a homemade plastic tent over them. The only survivors seem to be one pair of Romas that were in the same pot, one Big Boy, and one "wish I hadn't lost the marker so we'll see what it does".

Under the tent with them are 4 colors of carrots (filled in a few bare spot in the reds section), radishes (probably planted the first batches too early, and had to replant that row), and last year's remaining onion starts, which I will let go all season to produce bulbs (they look good).

In the herb bed, the spearmint, thyme, and oregano look healthy. The lavenders suffered even though this wasn't a bitter winter - not many sprouts on them. I'd cut back half the sage, and some of the stumps are sprouting, some are not. I'll cut down the other half next spring - the plant was just getting too ugly and overgrown. The chives (in a different bed) are about to flower and are a good 2 feet tall.
/part 2/

Posted by: Pat* at May 08, 2021 05:42 PM (2pX/F)

230 Indoors, we still have 4 poblano pepper starts of various sizes. I have Miners Lettuce in a pot in the shade, which is going to seed.

2 beds of strawberries, all flowering now. 3 blueberry bushes, blooming now. Red raspberries, 2 rows, leafing out nicely. Row of chokecherries, mostly grown as a windbreak, starting to flower now.

2 old apple trees still have a few flowers despite last week's windstorm. 3 apples new last year: Golden Russet has leaves but didn't flower. Cortland leafed out - lost a cracked limb. Golden Delicious flowered well and still has a few left; also leafed out. 2 pears new this spring - Seckel covered with leaves, had a few flowers. Warren was very slow off the mark, finally getting leaf buds going. One new Elberta peach - had tiny flowers, now leafed out.

Working on flipping compost from bin to bin - one done, one almost done, 3 to go...
/part 3/

Posted by: Pat* at May 08, 2021 05:49 PM (2pX/F)

231 Crabapple dropped all petals due to mentioned windstorm, as did redbud. White dogwood still flowering, and just starting to leaf out - it's the tree furthest behind on leafing out (oak and sycamores also relatively slow).

Row of 51 lilacs at peak flower! 2 circles of Lily of the Valley also at peak - I adore that scent! Siberian Iris clumps have started flowering just in time for Mothers Day, especially ones on south side of house. The bearded iris we planted under the redbud has gone several years without flowering but has finally done so - first flower is purple, with a paler center.

Tulips are not doing anything - I replanted them all last fall and they've taken it as an excuse to have a rebuilding year. I look longingly at the displays at neighborhood entrances and shopping centers...

Once again - KT, I hope you will be perfectly healthy again soon!
/part 4, end/

Posted by: Pat* at May 08, 2021 05:58 PM (2pX/F)

232 I am a point in life where I enjoy seeing a nice garden, and dig the zero turn. I have a John Deere , as I need the puttering around trailer and stuff. I am truly blessed. God bless Texas.

Posted by: William P Donovan at May 08, 2021 06:13 PM (MaCBZ)

233 Crabapple dropped all petals due to mentioned windstorm, as did redbud...
Posted by: Pat* at May 08, 2021 05:58

Our apple tree was just loaded w/ blossoms, but like you a windstorm took care of that. Enough left and hoping this is the plentiful yr as last yr we got one apple. Seems like it it mostly alternates between a plentiful yr and a lean yr.

Posted by: Farmer at May 08, 2021 06:56 PM (55Qr6)

234 Well shoot, meant to add my best wishes for KT for a quick recovery. And thanks WD for filling in. Nice garden WD but I can tell for sure that you're a bit younger than I am to attempt such a garden. Optimism in the spring is a wonderful thing.

Posted by: Farmer at May 08, 2021 07:08 PM (55Qr6)

235 Oooo...bigger garden?
Pro tip, Don't wait 'til canning time to "hoard" the extra canning jars, seals, and bands you're gonna' need.
Get 'em now, as it's ALSO easier o figure out where/ how you're gonna' store 'em with empty jars than playing Tetris with full ones.
At WORST, it's best to find out "Crap, I'm gonna' need to build more shelves!"(or something) NOW.

Posted by: CaptDMO at May 09, 2021 05:38 AM (rpZjA)

236 No gardening today in SW OH. Dark and rainy here, only the existing plants will do well.

Posted by: exdem13 at May 09, 2021 10:12 AM (W+kMI)

237 ONTWTF pic of the garden makes me remember what the parents used to do, back in the day. Sister & I had to help out with the garden some, then they kept it up for a while after we left. Nowadays it's all flowers.

Posted by: exdem13 at May 09, 2021 10:14 AM (W+kMI)

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