The Morning Rant - Misanthropic Edition

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The workforce of the USA has been turned upside down since March 2020 due to the Chinese Kung Flu and the inept "Smart People". Yes, Anthony Fauci I'm directing that at you.

Now, the big employers are fed up and want to "return to normal". The problem is we are never going to return to normal.

Mondelez International Inc., the maker of Ritz Crackers and Trident gum, wants to start welcoming workers back to office this summer, though with a caveat -- they must be fully vaccinated against Covid-19.
It’s a thorny issue for many companies as some workers are hesitant about getting the shots, and Mondelez hasn’t finalized its plan. Yet for Chief Executive Officer Dirk Van De Put, vaccines are a way to ensure safety while restoring workplace culture and camaraderie.
“We want to create an environment where you feel comfortable and it’s like it used to be at the office,” he said in a Bloomberg Television interview April 28. “We can only do that if everybody’s vaccinated.”

When I'm not slaving away at the Ace Media Empire, AceCorp, LLC and Mis. Hum. Enterprises I work for a rather large corporation. My employer required everyone to work from home unless they were department managers and wanted to work from the office.

So the employer has come out with the following: You can return to work at the office as of July 1st if you have had been used as a guinea pig and have been vaccinated against the Kung Flu. However before entering the building you must complete a daily questionnaire and it has to be submitted to HR.

Let me describe our office, can you say open concept and cubicle farms? Sure I knew you could. The employer mandate says you do not have to wear a face diaper while at your desk. However, if you leave your desk you are supposed to follow CDC Guidelines including wearing that damn mask.

Hold on a minute, if I'm vaccinated and I answer the questionnaire that I'm healthy why in the hell should I wear a mask? Oh and by the way, should I stay 3' away from a co-worker or 6' away?

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is updating K–12 school guidance to reflect the latest science on physical distance between students in classrooms. CDC now recommends that, with universal masking, students should maintain a distance of at least 3 feet in classroom settings. CDC has updated its operational strategy to say:
In elementary schools, CDC recommends all students remain at least 3 feet apart in classrooms where mask use is universal — regardless of whether community transmission is low, moderate, substantial, or high.
In middle and high schools, CDC also recommends students should be at least 3 feet apart in classrooms where mask use is universal and in communities where transmission is low, moderate, or substantial.
Middle school students and high school students should be at least 6 feet apart in communities where transmission is high, if cohorting is not possible. Cohorting is when groups of students are kept together with the same peers and staff throughout the school day to reduce the risk for spread throughout the school. This recommendation is because COVID-19 transmission dynamics are different in older students – that is, they are more likely to be exposed to SARS-CoV-2 and spread it than younger children.
The updated Operational Strategy for K-12 Schools through Phased Prevention is part of CDC’s existing resources for K–12 schools to open and remain open for in-person instruction during the COVID-19 pandemic. Since release of the Operational Strategy on February 12, 2021, CDC has continually reviewed the evolving evidence on SARS-CoV-2 transmission in K–12 schools, as well as the latest science on the effectiveness of different prevention strategies within schools. The updated guidance complements CDC’s existing guidance, resources, and tools for K–12 schools.
Three studies, published in today’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), also address spread of SARS-CoV-2 in schools. Taken together, these studies build on evidence that physical distancing of at least 3 feet between students can safely be adopted in classroom settings where mask use is universal and other prevention measures are taken.
“CDC is committed to leading with science and updating our guidance as new evidence emerges,” said CDC Director Rochelle P. Walensky. “Safe in-person instruction gives our kids access to critical social and mental health services that prepare them for the future, in addition to the education they need to succeed. These updated recommendations provide the evidence-based roadmap to help schools reopen safely, and remain open, for in-person instruction.”
These updated recommendations are specific to students in classrooms with universal mask wearing.
CDC continues to recommend at least 6 feet of distance:
Between adults in the school building and between adults and students.
In common areas, such as school lobbies and auditoriums.

Damn, I just want to get rid of a cup of coffee to get a new one. Lot of guessing what I should do on my way to the commons area.

But is the CDC to be trusted? Or do you trust an institution of higher learning who has been researching this social distancing Bull Shit? According to MIT being 6' away from someone may not be enough. You may need 60'.

The risk of being exposed to Covid-19 indoors can be as great at 60 feet as it is at 6 feet in a room where the air is mixed — even when wearing a mask, according to a new study by Massachusetts Institute of Technology researchers who challenge social distancing guidelines adopted across the world.
MIT professors Martin Z. Bazant, who teaches chemical engineering and applied mathematics, and John W.M. Bush, who teaches applied mathematics, developed a method of calculating exposure risk to Covid-19 in an indoor setting that factors in a variety of issues that could affect transmission, including the amount of time spent inside, air filtration and circulation, immunization, variant strains, mask use, and even respiratory activity such as breathing, eating, speaking or singing.

Our company's return policy is voluntary, at least as I write this. As we get closer to the opening date who knows.

It's time to return to normal and that means sucking it up buttercups and allowing employees to return to work not wearing face diapers. It means allowing people to travel for their jobs. Sure Zoom and virtual meetings are good substitutes but there is nothing better than face to face interaction in most business settings.

Oh and speaking of our great federal government and the Kung Flu vaccine. The resident of the White House and his band of grifters are considering f*cking over Big Pharma. Hey Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson, you know those patents you have? Well, we want to suspend those.

As vaccinations continue to roll out around the world we’ve heard plenty of complaints about how some countries are lagging far behind the wealthier nations where most of these vaccines were developed and are being produced. This has resulted in understandable requests for countries like the United States to more quickly begin sending more doses to those nations that are in need. Unfortunately, we’re cranking these vaccines out about as quickly as is physically possible already. One solution that’s been proposed is to allow other companies around the world to start producing their own using the scientific breakthroughs achieved by companies like Pfizer and Moderna, but that would run afoul of their patents and intellectual property rights. Never fear, socialists. President Joe Biden is endorsing a plan put forward by the World Health Organization to simply “pause” those patents and let other companies run with the ball. The American pharmaceutical companies are not fans of the idea, to say the least.

Rule of law? Oh hell no. We are a global community and to hell with private property and intellectual property. Some might snicker about Big Pharma getting screwed over by the feds. Just remember if they can screw large corporations they certainly can screw you over.

Speaking of face diapers and virtue signaling. Fill in your own caption with this one. Perhaps, Mr. Kamala needs to block Willie breath.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 11:00 AM

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Posted by: Cosda at May 07, 2021 10:02 AM (B8xg6)

2 New ape?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 07, 2021 10:03 AM (eJn7u)

3 not first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:03 AM (LvTSG)

4 Mis Hum among the daywalkers! Happy Friday to ya!

Posted by: Doof at May 07, 2021 10:04 AM (mZUr4)

5 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. Rude ape.
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 07, 2021 10:05 AM (axyOa)

6 Same to ya, big ape.

Posted by: BignJames at May 07, 2021 10:05 AM (AwYPR)

7 The woketards on the boards wanted Trump gone, they got their way.

Time to reward them for it, keep your wallet closed.

Nice post Misanthropic H.

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:06 AM (Lzpvj)

8 Oh and speaking of our great federal government and the Kung Flu vaccine. The resident of the White House and his band of grifters are considering f*cking over Big Pharma. Hey Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson, you know those patents you have? Well, we want to suspend those.

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In terms of principle, I find this unfortunate.

In terms of the game that we're actually playing, the exercise of raw power, I find this really satisfying. Big Pharma played games right before the election to weaken Trump, and this is what they're getting from Biden?

Fuck 'em. I shall just laugh.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:06 AM (LvTSG)

9 4 Mis Hum among the daywalkers! Happy Friday to ya!
Posted by: Doof at May 07, 2021 10:04 AM (mZUr4)

I am.
Happy TGIF

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 07, 2021 10:07 AM (aA3+G)

10 "My dear your breath still smells like Willie Brown."

//The Second Fella

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:07 AM (Lzpvj)

11 In terms of principle, I find this unfortunate.

In terms of the game that we're actually playing, the exercise of raw power, I find this really satisfying. Big Pharma played games right before the election to weaken Trump, and this is what they're getting from Biden?

Fuck 'em. I shall just laugh.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:06 AM (LvTSG)

Same here, TJM.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 07, 2021 10:08 AM (Ez6QX)

12 8 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:06 AM (LvTSG)

The GOP voter has been reduced to being a firewall for the worst economic impulses of the corpo leftards' socialist pets.

The corpos want worker's paradise elections they should get their policies.

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:08 AM (Lzpvj)

13 /The Second Fella

Posted by: sven at May 07, 202

If he's the Second Gentleman who is the First Gentleman?

Posted by: Just Asking at May 07, 2021 10:08 AM (lphXC)

14 To the CDC: As an employer I'm trying to work out company messaging on covid return-to-work. I've sort of settled on something and want to know if you think I'm capturing the right tone: "Hey CDC, fuck all y'all!"

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 07, 2021 10:08 AM (3i7pT)

15 8 me too. I am in favor of denying Fauci, et al the profits. In fact, claw them back.

Posted by: CN at May 07, 2021 10:09 AM (ONvIw)

16 9 Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 07, 2021 10:07 AM (aA3+G)

Amen, the spouse pulls duty tomorrow sadly elseways I'd likely go stay in Texas for the weekend.

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:09 AM (Lzpvj)

17 Charles V. Payne is a smartass.

Charles V Payne
@cvpayne
Congratulations President Biden - you have achieved the progressive utopia. At least 7.4 million job openings but only 266,000 people got a job last month.

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That's what you get when you de-incentivise working.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 07, 2021 10:09 AM (VVEnO)

18 My wife and I kiss through the mask too if we are someplace where it is required.

Which is thankfully becoming limited to theme parks only now.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 07, 2021 10:09 AM (5p7BC)

19 "Safe in-person instruction gives our kids access to critical social and mental health services that prepare them for the future..."

Social health services.
Mental health services.
AKA indoctrination.

Glad she finally got to the oh, yes, and education, too.

Posted by: Flyover at May 07, 2021 10:09 AM (Rbu5d)

20 President Joe Biden is endorsing a plan put forward by the World Health Organization to simply "pause" those patents and let other companies run with the ball. The American pharmaceutical companies are not fans of the idea, to say the least.
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There is precedent for this, both the breaking of pharma patents *and* the US knuckling under on that topic.

Why is reimportation of drugs (say, from India) often radically cheaper and thus banned? Because of foreign state action. India (notable for doing this) will tell a manufacturer, "You sell this on the open market for $25 a dose. We'll give you $0.50 a dose. If you don't sell at that price, we'll break your patent and manufacture it domestically." So the manufacturer sells at that price, because the United States government does nothing to protect their property rights. The US should, when that happens, immediately embargo the other country or tax the shit out of all trade with them until they back down.

Instead, we let it happen. We'll let this happen, too.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 07, 2021 10:09 AM (Jsjd7)

21 13 Posted by: Just Asking at May 07, 2021 10:08 AM (lphXC)

Oh my!

//George $oro$

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:09 AM (Lzpvj)

22 I'm not sure how they can get around existing law and not make reasonable accommodation for anti-vaxxers. They make accommodations for everything else.

Posted by: Only Context at May 07, 2021 10:10 AM (xEIoY)

23 If you pay people not to work...they probably won't...just a guess.

Posted by: BignJames at May 07, 2021 10:10 AM (AwYPR)

24 Atlanta's totally woke, powerful woman thug friendly mayor has announced she is not running for election and totally has nothing to do with the crime wave she enabled and is spinning out of control. Which, BTW, is actually the fault of rural gun owners and Georgia gun laws. She will find employment at CNN or some other state media outlet no doubt and her replacement will be another inept, corrupt Dem hack. Let It Burn!

Posted by: Ripley at May 07, 2021 10:10 AM (MxEKc)

25 He got monkey finger....

Posted by: klaftern at May 07, 2021 10:10 AM (RuIsu)

26 Hey, what happened to Kamala's ugly step daughter?

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 07, 2021 10:10 AM (/MaDp)

27 I work for a very large corp; I've been getting corp propaganda to get the vaccine for a few months now. Yet for the entire last year-plus I've been going into the building 3-4 days per week because I have to ("business-essential"). Now if I've had to be on the premises over the last year unvaccinated, and all of the sudden they require a vaccine to be at work... inconsistency anyone? Also, the execs are suddenly talking about "office of the future"... in other words, they want to unload real-estate and reduce their office footprint to save dollars. So short-sighted; almost every one of my fellow employees has expressed their frustration with the current state (large percentages of co-workers at home, hard to reach, inefficiencies, etc...). These fools are going to crash the business...

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 07, 2021 10:10 AM (pcsoT)

28 And how much money does Biden propose paying these companies for this "taking"? That is after all what this is. This is millions of dollars worth of future sales being taken from the rightful owners of that IP.

Posted by: Formerly known as Skeptic at May 07, 2021 10:10 AM (FR+I0)

29 Even CNN forced to cover the "disappointing" jobs numbers.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 07, 2021 10:11 AM (UHVv4)

30 As for the vaccine, I am taking the position whenever asked that the mere question is a HIPPA violation.

I refuse to answer.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 07, 2021 10:11 AM (5p7BC)

31 26 raking in cash as a model.

Posted by: CN at May 07, 2021 10:11 AM (ONvIw)

32 I'm a special-case anti-vaxer.

Especially when immunization is not even on the table, apparently.

An "immunized" married couple kiss with masks on.

People jog, "immunized" outside, by themselves with masks on.

You can still catch Covid and die, even if "immunized".

The Dems have altered the meaning of all words, be grateful they don't alter them further.

Posted by: Axeman at May 07, 2021 10:11 AM (cI7Oj)

33 It seems that employers and employees could reach a stalemate over vaccinations, unless the feds step in and force it as a condition for receiving UE benefits. It doesn't matter if it's legal, it only matters if they can get away with it.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at May 07, 2021 10:11 AM (uhPTO)

34 17 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 07, 2021 10:09 AM (VVEnO)

The choice facing the electorate was "you are what you do" versus "you do what you are."

They allegedly chose poorly, the death of the American work ethic was a predictable byproduct.

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:11 AM (Lzpvj)

35 Hey! What's that monkey doing?!!! This is a family blog!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 07, 2021 10:11 AM (VVEnO)

36 I'm not sure how they can get around existing law and not make reasonable accommodation for anti-vaxxers. They make accommodations for everything else.
Posted by: Only Context at May 07, 2021 10:10 AM (xEIoY)
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Because they don't want to make accommodations and so they won't. The law doesn't matter.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 07, 2021 10:11 AM (Jsjd7)

37 The Second Male is blocking Willie's willie-breath.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 07, 2021 10:11 AM (HaL55)

38 30 except its not. HIPAA applies to health care workers revealing your info, not random people asking.

Posted by: CN at May 07, 2021 10:12 AM (ONvIw)

39
*Rude 'rilla*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 07, 2021 10:12 AM (n+4am)

40 My company's Queen of HR was refreshingly honest on this topic. During a recent all-employees call, she was asked whether vaccination would be mandatory. She said, "We'd like it to be, but we're not sure we can get away with that. We're looking into it."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 07, 2021 10:12 AM (Jsjd7)

41 I'm not sure how they can get around existing law and not make reasonable accommodation for anti-vaxxers. They make accommodations for everything else.

Posted by: Only Context at May 07, 2021 10:10 AM (xEIoY)

What if you just identify as someone who's been vaxxed?

Posted by: BignJames at May 07, 2021 10:12 AM (AwYPR)

42 18 Which is thankfully becoming limited to theme parks only now.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 07, 2021 10:09 AM (5p7BC)

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Dolley and I now have Universal annual passes and have gone a few times recently. The masks everywhere thing is getting really old. At Legoland, at least, they allow for no masks outside of any attraction.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:12 AM (LvTSG)

43 Go-rilla has a knife fighting scar on right arm.

See? Everyone does do it.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 07, 2021 10:13 AM (z79tQ)

44 24 Atlanta's totally woke, powerful woman thug friendly mayor has announced she is not running for election and totally has nothing to do with the crime wave she enabled and is spinning out of control. Which, BTW, is actually the fault of rural gun owners and Georgia gun laws. She will find employment at CNN or some other state media outlet no doubt and her replacement will be another inept, corrupt Dem hack. Let It Burn!
Posted by: Ripley at May 07, 2021 10:10 AM (MxEKc)

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Remember when she was being floated as a possible VP candidate for Biden?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:13 AM (LvTSG)

45 yeah, i have the distinct feeling my company is going to try this also. and my response will be, what other vaccines are required for a person to work in the office? because if it's ONLY this one, no way. if it's that's private, then it's on hell no, and if it's all of them, well, better show me that in writing with ZERO exception clauses...

but doesn't matter anyway, i'm still not getting the shot. I'm "allergic" to the flu vaccine. no way i'm taking this one.

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 07, 2021 10:13 AM (8D42x)

46 I work for a large org as well, and surprisingly flexible around a lot of this junk. Nobody is telling me to get the damn sheep dna "vaccine," and nobody worries too much if I sit in my office (which I share with 3 others) not wearing the damn mask. Around "customers?" Sure, but otherwise use your own judgement.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 07, 2021 10:13 AM (U2EjU)

47 >> At least 7.4 million job openings but only 266,000 people got a job last month.

Post Pandemic
Spring Hiring Season
...

250K Jobs added?

Talk about an epic fucking failure.

Posted by: garrett at May 07, 2021 10:13 AM (nwSdL)

48 Gee....what was that experiment back in the day?? Oh, yeah Tuskegee....well, no thanks.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 07, 2021 10:13 AM (jvt6t)

49 Once those patents are 'paused', how exactly do they get 'un-paused' after all the animals have fled the barn? Who exactly would then enforce and recompense the drug companies - oh, and by the way, the US taxpayer, who fronted the billions to incentivize the drug companies to even do the research?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 07, 2021 10:13 AM (mdjgu)

50 >>> Let me describe our office, can you say open concept and cubicle farms? Sure I knew you could. The employer mandate says you do not have to wear a face diaper while at your desk. However, if you leave your desk you are supposed to follow CDC Guidelines including wearing that damn mask.

This is how my job started in 2020. But the rule became you are required to wear your muzzle all the time even if you are completely alone at your cube and the only one in the building you must wear your muzzle at all times.

Also, they are very interested to know if I've allowed myself to be injected yet. I get questionnaires and emails asking me if I've filled out the questionnaires.

And my daughter brought home the common cold last weekend, she tested neg. for covid, but now I have what she had and since I'm sick I'll have to get the test again before I can go back into work.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 07, 2021 10:14 AM (bYTQR)

51 All Morons should read Karl D's market ticker re: these vaccines 1st.

This could end badly.

Posted by: DaveA at May 07, 2021 10:14 AM (FhXTo)

52 38 30 except its not. HIPAA applies to health care workers revealing your info, not random people asking.
Posted by: CN at May 07, 2021 10:12 AM (ONvIw)

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The whole HIPAA argument has been off base.

"Are you vaccinated?"

"That's a violation of HIPAA!"

"No, it's really not. If I ask your doctor and he tells me, that would be a violation of HIPAA."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:14 AM (LvTSG)

53 48 Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 07, 2021 10:13 AM (jvt6t)

God's sense of humor runs stone-faced and ironic, he only had to wait 75 years for the NAAZCP to go from decrying Tuskegee to demanding it.

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:14 AM (Lzpvj)

54 I work for a large corporation, with the CEO clearly pushing for a return-to-the-office (although it will probably be on a hybrid model where most employees have 2 standard WFH days a week). What they're finding out though is that employees by and large don't want to return to the office. Moreover, productivity has GONE UP over the past year+ of WFH. A smart competitor is going to move to 100% WFH (and save on the physical office overhead) and drain off talent.

So we'll see what happens.

And, as for Pfizer and Moderna, I'm sorry, fuck them both. They wanted the Biden Admin. They got what they wanted. Screw their vaccines, maybe they should have pushed other treatment options instead.

Posted by: Revenant at May 07, 2021 10:14 AM (U+s6u)

55 In terms of principle, I find this unfortunate.

In terms of the game that we're actually playing, the exercise of raw power, I find this really satisfying. Big Pharma played games right before the election to weaken Trump, and this is what they're getting from Biden?

Fuck 'em. I shall just laugh.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:06 AM (LvTSG)

right there with ya TJM. officially, i think it's a terrible idea that will have far reaching consequences.

unofficially, i'm laughing my ass off if they do this because they get what they deserve...

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 07, 2021 10:15 AM (8D42x)

56 except its not. HIPAA applies to health care workers revealing your info, not random people asking.

Posted by: CN at May 07, 2021 10:

It applies to more than HCW.

Posted by: Just Saying at May 07, 2021 10:15 AM (lphXC)

57 The Second Fella

Posted by: sven at May 07, 202

If he's the Second Gentleman who is the First Gentleman?
Posted by: Just Asking at May 07, 2021 10:08 AM (lphXC)

Mike Obama?

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 07, 2021 10:15 AM (8D42x)

58 Yeah, just keep exercising that raw power,fucktards.

The sooner you bring this country down, the sooner you fucks can be dealt with.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 07, 2021 10:15 AM (ufFY8)

59 55 right there with ya TJM. officially, i think it's a terrible idea that will have far reaching consequences.

unofficially, i'm laughing my ass off if they do this because they get what they deserve...
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 07, 2021 10:15 AM (8D42x)

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When they start asking the GOP to save them, I sure hope they find a changed GOP.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:15 AM (LvTSG)

60 So big pharma was hoping for a little more leverage in the new oligarchy system and found out that we are bypassing that for an overnight stay in fascism and we'll arrive at communism before dinner the next day?

Posted by: TexasDan at May 07, 2021 10:15 AM (ohOLP)

61 If communists want vaccine without any of those pesky IP rules, there's Sinovac and Sinopharm. 100% communist-made, bitches.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 07, 2021 10:15 AM (JZT2F)

62 Let me describe our office, can you say open concept and cubicle farms? Sure I knew you could. The employer mandate says you do not have to wear a face diaper while at your desk. However, if you leave your desk you are supposed to follow CDC Guidelines including wearing that damn mask.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 07, 2021 10:14 AM (bYTQR)
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Same in our office, before Grand Rapids, MI banned occupancy until October.

Posted by: Axeman at May 07, 2021 10:16 AM (cI7Oj)

63 like Mr Gorilla. Would hang on front door.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 07, 2021 10:16 AM (o89XP)

64 Even CNN forced to cover the "disappointing" jobs numbers.
Posted by: andycanuck

Axios
@axios
Replying to @axios
Economists were hoping for a figure roughly 1 million jobs larger - making this the biggest miss, relative to expectations, in the history of the payrolls report.

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Joe's number one! Joe's number one!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 07, 2021 10:16 AM (VVEnO)

65 Laws, Schmaws. Do as we say, peasant. That's the only law there is.

Posted by: The Ruling Class at May 07, 2021 10:16 AM (pnSY9)

66 56 except its not. HIPAA applies to health care workers revealing your info, not random people asking.

Posted by: CN at May 07, 2021 10:

It applies to more than HCW.
Posted by: Just Saying at May 07, 2021 10:15 AM (lphXC)

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Yeah, anyone with legal access to health records.

I work for a SaaS company that deals with insurance benefits, and I have to take annual HIPAA trainings.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:16 AM (LvTSG)

67 Dolley and I now have Universal annual passes and have gone a few times recently. The masks everywhere thing is getting really old. At Legoland, at least, they allow for no masks outside of any attraction.
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I'm starting to see some hope.

At Blizzard Beach, if you cross the bridge into the main area, masks are not required even in lines for the water rides.

Also stayed the weekend at one of the Disney resorts and ran every day either in the morning or evening. I didn't wear a mask an no one said a word, even the security patrols on bikes.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 07, 2021 10:16 AM (5p7BC)

68 64 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 07, 2021 10:16 AM (VVEnO)

Well kids I am disappointed so we are in lockdowns another two years!

//Joseph Plugz esq

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:17 AM (Lzpvj)

69 When they start asking the GOP to save them, I sure hope they find a changed GOP.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:15 AM (LvTSG)
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Who are you kidding?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 07, 2021 10:17 AM (Jsjd7)

70 And by the by, since there's all sorts of talk about heeroes who work at hopsitals and skewels, I'd rather show my appreciation for folks who work in restaurants, casual and fast.

These people are exposed to human detritus every freakin' day, and they have to wear masks ALL the time. I was seated at a table the other day, and the table had been cleaned off, but someone had left their tip on the table, I guess after it was cleaned. A bunch of coins. Including pennies.

People are assholes. The waitress was gracious enough about it, but I assured her I would NOT be leaving a tip in the form on coins.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 07, 2021 10:17 AM (U2EjU)

71 60 So big pharma was hoping for a little more leverage in the new oligarchy system and found out that we are bypassing that for an overnight stay in fascism and we'll arrive at communism before dinner the next day?
Posted by: TexasDan at May 07, 2021 10:15 AM (ohOLP)

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Biden may be a moderate (he's not), but his administration is populated entirely by radical leftists who want to use the power of the federal government to either enrich themselves or punish their enemies. Corporations have been enemies to the radical left for a very long time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:17 AM (LvTSG)

72 As far as the pharma IP goes?? Well, we had HCQ, Ivermectin, Vitamin D, etc. in our arsenal all along, but because it was effective and vouched for by Trump, it would have destroyed the whole scam.

So, fuck them. They lay down with dogs...enjoy the fleas.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 07, 2021 10:17 AM (jvt6t)

73 >>In terms of the game that we're actually playing, the exercise of raw power, I find this really satisfying. Big Pharma played games right before the election to weaken Trump, and this is what they're getting from Biden?

Satisfying in the short term, but no doubt damaging in the long term. Can one assume this will end up benefitting China - maybe they will manufacture these drugs after the western pharmaceuticals did all of the work developing them?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 07, 2021 10:17 AM (bDqIh)

74 To me, the Olympics is like the NBA. I stopped watching pro roundball long before the woke stuff, because the corruption in the sport sucked all the fun out of watching it. The rigging of the playoff series was the final straw for me.

Similarly, the Olympics have *always* had a corruption problem, but when they so shamelessly rigged the Beijing Games, that was it.

I can watch pro wrestling and enjoy it, because nobody is trying to pretend it's a real athletic event. The Olympics is just ersatz sports.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 07, 2021 10:17 AM (Uh2oA)

75 69 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 07, 2021 10:17 AM (Jsjd7)

Ourselves or the GOP....their pick.

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:17 AM (Lzpvj)

76 Get me out of here!

Posted by: Alice at May 07, 2021 10:18 AM (XxJt1)

77 So a sick note from your doctor is a HIPA violation?

Posted by: Axeman at May 07, 2021 10:18 AM (cI7Oj)

78 If I were forced to kiss Comme-Lay, I'd want a mask, too. Better still, an actual face condom.

I know where that mouth has been.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 07, 2021 10:18 AM (JZT2F)

79 Mondelez International Inc better lookout. There have already been > 2000 people who have died after taking that vaccine. I posted a link yesterday or the the day before.

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2021 10:18 AM (mpXpK)

80 Since we are a nation without laws these days, Zero sympathy for the pharmas, some of whom delayed announcing they had the "stuff" to hurt Trump. I hope some of their industrial knowledge for creating the vaccines jump starts a new wave of competitors in India and elsewhere.

Posted by: Only Context at May 07, 2021 10:18 AM (xEIoY)

81 69 When they start asking the GOP to save them, I sure hope they find a changed GOP.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:15 AM (LvTSG)

Cocaine is a helluva drug......

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 07, 2021 10:18 AM (jvt6t)

82 67 Also stayed the weekend at one of the Disney resorts and ran every day either in the morning or evening. I didn't wear a mask an no one said a word, even the security patrols on bikes.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 07, 2021 10:16 AM (5p7BC)

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We stayed at one of the Universal resorts, and I walked around the place without a mask all the time. No one said anything. It was only when we got into CityWalk that the Official Karens hired by Universal started making themselves wet by telling me what to do.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:18 AM (LvTSG)

83 Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
Here's GQ's @juliaioffe suggesting that the "authorities" should start considering declaring Fox News to be outside the bounds of First Amendment press freedom protections (invoking the historically ignorant fire-theater cliche to justify it). This is a "journalist" saying this!

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Fox' hard left turn is really working out for them!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 07, 2021 10:18 AM (VVEnO)

84 Forcing someone to take part in medical experiments violates the Nuremberg Code.

I don't know what federal or state laws have to say about it.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 07, 2021 10:19 AM (GDQ3B)

85 If he's the Second Gentleman who is the First Gentleman?
Posted by: Just Asking at May 07, 2021 10:08 AM (lphXC)

The first was no gentleman. That's why he was first.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 07, 2021 10:19 AM (z79tQ)

86 Reading this is why I'm glad I got hired where I am now as a remote worker.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Serving all Americans, even the Neanderthals. at May 07, 2021 10:19 AM (SchxB)

87
Julia Ioffe might be the journalist I hate more than any other. She's absolute scum, a standout in an industry where nearly every single person is hellbound.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 07, 2021 10:20 AM (Uh2oA)

88 83 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 07, 2021 10:18 AM (VVEnO)

People think people are being hyperbolic when they say Joey wants to unleash the War on terror playbook here.

DoD is on the precipice of declaring patriotism extremist.

Loyalty to the country as founded is a career detriment.

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:20 AM (Lzpvj)

89 @54 Revenant - My experience regarding WFH is that productivity plummets. But I suppose it depends on the type of work. I do engineering or large, complex systems with large teams of engineers and scientists; for this kind of project, WFH is almost a total disaster. We have to communicate effectively and Zoom/Skype just doesn't cut it...

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 07, 2021 10:20 AM (pcsoT)

90 Fox' hard left turn is really working out for them!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 07, 2021 10:18 AM (VVEnO)
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The only thing that saddens them about this is that there is some risk to their status as the official opposition. That's all, and that risk is very very modest.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 07, 2021 10:20 AM (Jsjd7)

91 Whether or not HIPPA applies, most people don't know.

I will answer questions about COVID symptoms but refuse to discuss my vax status.

The rubber meeting the road will be if my employer requires I report it. I'm probably being arrogant, but I will refuse to answer. And since I'm critical for $500M worth of business, I think I'm going to win that fight.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 07, 2021 10:21 AM (5p7BC)

92 S&P hits record, Nasdaq rallies as weak jobs data eases Fed taper worries

Yet another headline from Bizarro World.

Posted by: spindrift at May 07, 2021 10:21 AM (h5TKJ)

93 84 Posted by: callsign claymore at May 07, 2021 10:19 AM (GDQ3B)

"We won!"

//The Democrat party

Research why Eugenics was not a formal charge at the Nuremburg trials.

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:21 AM (Lzpvj)

94 >>but his administration is populated entirely by radical leftists who want to use the power of the federal government to either enrich themselves or punish their enemies

Their enemies = everything American

That includes US companies, especially those that 'perpetuate systemic racism through capitalism' and whatnot. LOLGF corporations that thought they were too woke to attack.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 07, 2021 10:21 AM (bDqIh)

95 > If he's the Second Gentleman who is the First Gentleman?

He's not even the Fiftieth Gentleman. Probably not even the Hundredth.

Commie-Lay got around, she did.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 07, 2021 10:21 AM (JZT2F)

96 87
Julia Ioffe might be the journalist I hate more than any other. She's absolute scum, a standout in an industry where nearly every single person is hellbound.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 07, 2021 10:20 AM (Uh2oA)

She was born in Russia. She takes to Biden's New America like a fish in water.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 07, 2021 10:21 AM (mdjgu)

97 Here's GQ's @juliaioffe suggesting that the "authorities" should start considering declaring Fox News to be outside the bounds of First Amendment press freedom protections (invoking the historically ignorant fire-theater cliche to justify it). This is a "journalist" saying this!

Me thinks Tucker has ruffled some feathers

Posted by: It's me donna at May 07, 2021 10:21 AM (Zmnko)

98 Mah bref smell lak Willie's pecker?

Posted by: Kumstain Kamala at May 07, 2021 10:21 AM (puJoz)

99 WWe want to create an environment where you feel comfortable and it's like it used to be at the office," he said in a Bloomberg Television interview April 28. "We can only do that if everybody's vaccinated."

The second half of that doesn't match the first half. I definitely don't remember being used as a human guinea pig being "the way it used to be" at all. Nope, not at all. Must be Newspeak.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 07, 2021 10:22 AM (Bmy3R)

100 The problem is I don't trust WHO or MIT. My first thought is "what is their angle with this information?"

Posted by: InCali at May 07, 2021 10:22 AM (ov5G+)

101 The reaction to the Minsurrection (1/6), the potential banning of Fox News, that's all in Marcuse's playbook from the 60s at Columbia's Frankfort School.

Posted by: Axeman at May 07, 2021 10:22 AM (cI7Oj)

102 If I were forced to kiss Comme-Lay, I'd want a mask, too. Better still, an actual face condom.

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One of those deep sea diving helmets.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 07, 2021 10:23 AM (VVEnO)

103 At the company I work for, I was speaking with the administrative assistant to the CIO when I was in the office for my one day onsite per week schedule I keep.

She mentioned that the company's executive team are formalizing a plan that certain groups, such as the majority of the IT organization I'm a part of, can work at home in a permanent capacity that is officially sanctioned.

Thankfully, that should keep me from having to meet any vaccination requirement. Also allows this company to avoid this potentially problematic issue, although they recommend we all go get jabbed and I'm sure most of the rank and sheeple have been complying.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at May 07, 2021 10:23 AM (cwI4U)

104 99 Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 07, 2021 10:22 AM (Bmy3R)

Someone is going to have to have the courage to ask why we did not take "all necessary steps" with HIV.

That person will be destroyed, so will the 50,000th.

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:23 AM (Lzpvj)

105 92 S&P hits record, Nasdaq rallies as weak jobs data eases Fed taper worries

Yet another headline from Bizarro World.
Posted by: spindrift at May 07, 2021 10:21 AM (h5TKJ)

Counterintuitive, but it makes sense. Wall Street thinks the bad jobs report means that the Fed spigot of cash is never going to stop flowing.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 07, 2021 10:24 AM (mdjgu)

106 Glenn Greenwald's network, if he had one, would be better than any of the MFM including Faux News.

I cannot believe I just typed those words in that order but there ya go in 2021.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 07, 2021 10:24 AM (Bmy3R)

107
Biden may be a moderate (he's not), but his administration is populated entirely by radical leftists who want to use the power of the federal government to either enrich themselves or punish their enemies. Corporations have been enemies to the radical left for a very long time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:17 AM

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We need Ben R to explain to pharma that the joke is on them.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 07, 2021 10:24 AM (ohOLP)

108 I hear unemployment has mysteriously gone up and not nearly as many jobs created as was projected. Which is weird since supposedly companies can't get enough workers which is causing supply problems , shortages and price increase. What a screwed up mess.. But all Trumps fault I'm told, nothing to to with trillions of free money,paying people to sit on their ass and scare them into not working because much too dangerous to leave the couch.

Posted by: Ripley at May 07, 2021 10:24 AM (MxEKc)

109 She was born in Russia. She takes to Biden's New America like a fish in water.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 07, 2021 10:21 AM (mdjgu)
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Sounds like Russian collusion to me.

Posted by: Axeman at May 07, 2021 10:24 AM (cI7Oj)

110 The problem is I don't trust WHO or MIT. My first thought is "what is their angle with this information?"
Posted by: InCali at May 07, 2021 10:22 AM (ov5G+)
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Replace with "WHO or MIT" with literally *anything* and it still holds up.

Zero trust is a bitch. And it's monumentally inefficient and thus expensive and limiting. These tools (or their offspring) will one day lament that they destroyed the tremendous luxury and efficiency that are possible only in high-trust civilizations.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 07, 2021 10:24 AM (Jsjd7)

111 86 Reading this is why I'm glad I got hired where I am now as a remote worker.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Serving all Americans, even the Neanderthals. at May 07, 2021 10:19 AM (SchxB)

As a remote guy. I completely understand. Although once the HQ opens up I'll be back about 6x a year. Ugh

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 07, 2021 10:24 AM (aA3+G)

112 Dems are pushing to suspend vax patents. Lolgf Pfizer. Socialism is awesome eh boys? But hey, no more mean tweets.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 07, 2021 10:25 AM (4A0e9)

113 Silly question: Are any of these big stupid corporations that require employees to be corona vaxxed going require vaccination for anything else?

Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at May 07, 2021 10:25 AM (3AD8C)

114 Good morning, sven. The Nazis cited American eugenics laws and such -- that wouldn't have looked good in American newspapers.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 07, 2021 10:25 AM (GDQ3B)

115 I'm not getting the vaccine.

And I'm not answering questions about if I have been vaccinated or not. That is private medical information, owned by me.

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 07, 2021 10:25 AM (iTXRQ)

116 >>>vaccines are a way to ensure safety

No, no they're not.

Posted by: m at May 07, 2021 10:25 AM (fVJPF)

117 108 I hear unemployment has mysteriously gone up and not nearly as many jobs created as was projected. Which is weird since supposedly companies can't get enough workers which is causing supply problems , shortages and price increase. What a screwed up mess.. But all Trumps fault I'm told, nothing to to with trillions of free money,paying people to sit on their ass and scare them into not working because much too dangerous to leave the couch.
Posted by: Ripley at May 07, 2021 10:24 AM (MxEKc)

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Either Biden is going to have to make some tough decisions about cutting off money to a large number of people, or he's going to keep the printing presses going to keep them fed.

I know which way I'm betting.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:25 AM (LvTSG)

118 >>Here's GQ's @juliaioffe suggesting that the "authorities" should start considering declaring Fox News to be outside the bounds of First Amendment press freedom protections (invoking the historically ignorant fire-theater cliche to justify it). This is a "journalist" saying this!

"This is a "journalist" saying this!"

I know he knows this, but. . . journalists are the leaders of cancel culture, and their biggest targets for cancellation are their competition. OF COURSE it is a journalist leading an effort to deplatform a huge cable news channel. See also: CNN's Oliver Darcy.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 07, 2021 10:25 AM (bDqIh)

119 I've worked at home for 6 years. Since I live in CO and the company is based in NY and FL, I'm not sure there's a lot they can do to force me. I guess they could make me scan them a vax card, but with no coworkers to "endanger" would they?

So far, they are just "encouraging" it.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 07, 2021 10:26 AM (Bmy3R)

120 Looks healthy. Doesn't need a vaccine:
https://tinyurl.com/sbwnwppx

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 07, 2021 10:26 AM (Jsjd7)

121 114 Posted by: callsign claymore at May 07, 2021 10:25 AM (GDQ3B)

It is easy to forget that this country has been since the 1890s about 35% evil at its best.

I do not say this to cast aspersions on the nation I point out that that is how warped and twisted the globe is that a 65% good is "the shining city on the hill."

We are at 65% evil now minimum.

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:26 AM (Lzpvj)

122 Instead, we let it happen. We'll let this happen, too.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 07, 2021 10:09 AM (Jsjd7)

Once upon a time it was the position of the GOP that protecting drug patents was the right thing to do. Even at the cost of overseas markets, drug companies were allowed to market their drugs in the U.S., at prices that allowed them to recoup their costs for research and development, and the border was enforced with an iron fist. No foreign imports of the ripoff versions of these drugs.

Now? I don't think Big Pharma manufactures anything here anymore. It's all foreign ripoff, just with the Big Pharma label right on the pills and bottles.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 07, 2021 10:26 AM (U2EjU)

123 S&P hits record, Nasdaq rallies as weak jobs data eases Fed taper worries

Yet another headline from Bizarro World.
Posted by: spindrift at May 07, 2021 10:21 AM

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So...they actually turned the machines back on?

Posted by: TexasDan at May 07, 2021 10:27 AM (ohOLP)

124 113 Silly question: Are any of these big stupid corporations that require employees to be corona vaxxed going require vaccination for anything else?
Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at May 07, 2021 10:25 AM (3AD8C)

First they're going to require a tattoo at the site of vaccination.

Posted by: m at May 07, 2021 10:27 AM (fVJPF)

125 The Nazis cited American eugenics laws and such -- that wouldn't have looked good in American newspapers.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 07, 2021 10:25 AM (GDQ3B)
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Madame Sanger met with Herr Hitler.

Posted by: Axeman at May 07, 2021 10:27 AM (cI7Oj)

126 I think the government threat over patents is just that, a threat. There's probably some things our masters need to keep a lid on and so we have the "that sure is a nice racket you got goin' there, I'd sure hate to see something happen to it".

Bad results from ongoing trials, bad reactions, shifty dealings with the regime and fauci, data and info linking the virus with chinas labs. Lots of things that might be making the pharms a little shaky at the knees.

So the mob junta that replaced the government is coming in and saying, "hey assholes, you need to be more afraid of me"

Posted by: banana Dream at May 07, 2021 10:27 AM (bYTQR)

127 The Dems have altered the meaning of all words, be grateful they don't alter them further.

Posted by: Axeman at May 07, 2021 10:11 AM (cI7Oj)

Exactly. Which is why I was really disappointed that no one else picked up on my joke when I said several times that the dems had gone to the Darth Vader School of Management (about CDC guidance reversing itself every two weeks).

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 07, 2021 10:27 AM (1lKRm)

128 Biden may be a moderate (he's not), but his administration is populated entirely by radical leftists who want to use the power of the federal government to either enrich themselves or punish their enemies. Corporations have been enemies to the radical left for a very long time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:17 AM

We need Ben R to explain to pharma that the joke is on them.
Posted by: TexasDan at May 07, 2021 10:24 AM (ohOLP)

I can't wait to read what The Desk of Donald J. Trump has to say about this news.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 07, 2021 10:27 AM (mdjgu)

129 125 The Nazis cited American eugenics laws and such -- that wouldn't have looked good in American newspapers.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 07, 2021 10:25 AM (GDQ3B)
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Madame Sanger met with Herr Hitler.
Posted by: Axeman at May 07, 2021 10:27 AM (cI7Oj)

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To tell him how much she, a good progressive, hated fascism, I'm sure.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:27 AM (LvTSG)

130 Stocks have been on an Uncle Sugar high for a year. Any sign of that sugar going away will tank stocks. But any sign that the sugar will keep coming is good for stocks. Bad employment numbers means more sugar means good day for stocks.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 07, 2021 10:28 AM (4A0e9)

131 > Silly question: Are any of these big stupid corporations that require employees to be corona vaxxed going require vaccination for anything else?

Oh, this is just the beginning, my friend.

Eventually you'll have to take "I will be a good boy" drugs on a daily basis.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 07, 2021 10:28 AM (JZT2F)

132 My relatively small employer is making the vax required. Added to the employee handbook and everything. In practical terms, it's now a term of employment: get the vax or get the ax. I'll do what I must to keep paying the mortgage but definitely chills my enthusiasm for the company.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 07, 2021 10:28 AM (qc+VF)

133 Counterintuitive, but it makes sense. Wall Street thinks the bad jobs report means that the Fed spigot of cash is never going to stop flowing.

Yeah, it's rational but illustrates how decoupled Wall Street now is from the economy ... the relationship is now inverted!

Posted by: spindrift at May 07, 2021 10:28 AM (h5TKJ)

134 113 Silly question: Are any of these big stupid corporations that require employees to be corona vaxxed going require vaccination for anything else?

I think there's a reason they call them vaccine passports and not vaccine wallet cards. Signs point to yes.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 07, 2021 10:28 AM (Bmy3R)

135 125 Posted by: Axeman at May 07, 2021 10:27 AM (cI7Oj)

Charming person, a vegetarian that grasps the population issue.

//Which one said it or did both?

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:28 AM (Lzpvj)

136 Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
Here's GQ's @juliaioffe suggesting that the "authorities" should start considering declaring Fox News to be outside the bounds of First Amendment press freedom protections (invoking the historically ignorant fire-theater cliche to justify it). This is a "journalist" saying this!

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Fox' hard left turn is really working out for them!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 07, 2021 10:18 AM (VVEnO)

Stop, i can only get so erect...

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 07, 2021 10:28 AM (8D42x)

137 52 it's starting to sound stupid

Posted by: CN at May 07, 2021 10:29 AM (ONvIw)

138 ... Once upon a time it was the position of the GOP that protecting drug patents was the right thing to do. Even at the cost of overseas markets, drug companies were allowed to market their drugs in the U.S., at prices that allowed them to recoup their costs for research and development, and the border was enforced with an iron fist. No foreign imports of the ripoff versions of these drugs. ...
Posted by: BurtTC at May 07, 2021 10:26 AM (U2EjU)
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That was the wrong answer to the problem. Forbidding reimportation ensured that we took it in the shorts for the misbehavior of foreign governments threatening to violate American firms' intellectual property rights. It let the pharma companies not go bankrupt and let the foreigners misbehave and it all worked out except for we Americans who got subsidize the rest of the world's misbehavior.

The right answer would have been ratcheting trade war with the foreign malefactors.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 07, 2021 10:29 AM (Jsjd7)

139 you know, I'm real sorry if you know someone who died of COVID, or had it and now can't walk up a flight of stairs without a coronary thrombosis, or whatever horror story you want to tell me.

But I'm pretty sure I had it last March, and I'm 100% sure I've been exposed to it a few times since then IF asymptomatic transmission of this virus is a thing which I'm not even convinced of.

I'm not getting vaccinated against something that can apparently barely get in the front door against my immune system, by taking a rushed, no-liability vaccine shot created by companies I don't trust at the insistence of a government I fear and despise. I'll social distance because I don't want to be that close to you anyway, and I'll wear a mask indoors so the person at Home Depot or the grocery store making $12/hr doesn't have to remind me of the store policy and feel like an asshole.

But that's it. Social niceties are as far as I'm going.

Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at May 07, 2021 10:29 AM (4v9T3)

140
My mom voted proudly for the Donald, twice. She also attended the Tree of Life synagogue until she grew up and moved out to the 'burbs, and maintains lifelong friendships with some of its congregants.

So, when Ioffe took to Twitter on the morning of the shooting there, to make her baseless, evil smear of Trump voters as being responsible for the bloodshed, she moved permanently onto my shitlist. The gall of that bitch.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 07, 2021 10:29 AM (Uh2oA)

141 Sanger is getting her wish. I hope she's smiling as she burns in hell.

Blacks were supposed to be about 35% of the US population by now. Instead, they're only 17%, and dropping.

Why? Because so many black babies are murdered before they're born.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 07, 2021 10:29 AM (JZT2F)

142 Although I guess an inverse relationship isn't really a de-coupling.

Posted by: spindrift at May 07, 2021 10:30 AM (h5TKJ)

143 And since I'm critical for $500M worth of business, I think I'm going to win that fight.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 07, 2021 10:21 AM (5p7BC)

You have clout.

What is at stake for most is something more akin to rights to privacy. Clout always gets its way.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 07, 2021 10:30 AM (z79tQ)

144 Corporate obsession with "safety" and ass covering that results in their acute sense of risk aversion is stifling.

I'll be shocked if my company EVER relaxes the pathetic mask mandate.

Worst part is, they send us all an email every time someone that was at work tests positive and claim they'll alert anyone that was "in close contact" with the Covid positive worker. Here's the thing - by definition, "close contact" requires you to be closer than 6' without a mask. Well, guess what, you're NOT ALLOWED to be closer than 6' from anyone without a mask, so, by deduction... nobody has ever been in close contact. Liability solved.

You see, it's an ironclad RULE that you never violate the "close contact" guidance, or you would be subject to discipline.

Posted by: deadrody at May 07, 2021 10:30 AM (V9901)

145 Also if you read Mein Kampf you will find that propaganda is not something that Hitler proposed, he observed its "benefits" and promoted it.

Outside of Mein Kampf, you learn that what he saw was the work of Edward Bernays for the Wilson administration.

Dems always relate the "Big Lie" to the Nazis, but the Nazis wouldn't have believed in the "Big Lie" without their advocacy for "propaganda", which they learned from American Democrats.

Posted by: Axeman at May 07, 2021 10:30 AM (cI7Oj)

146 My relatively small employer is making the vax required. Added to the employee handbook and everything. In practical terms, it's now a term of employment: get the vax or get the ax. I'll do what I must to keep paying the mortgage but definitely chills my enthusiasm for the company.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 07, 2021 10:28 AM (qc+VF)

Ugh, that sucks. I've already told my husband that if my company does that, I'm telling them to LOLGF. We'll just have to tighten our belts a bit (more).

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 07, 2021 10:31 AM (Ez6QX)

147 Look on my tits, ye mighty, and despair!

Posted by: Bruce Jenner's cleavage at May 07, 2021 10:31 AM (Tnijr)

148 So massive miss on new jobs. Any numbers on the previous months revisions? And if there are can I guess that they are all revised down like was typical under Obama, and the complete opposite under Trump.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 07, 2021 10:31 AM (G2zl5)

149 Posted by: Ripley at May 07, 2021 10:24 AM (MxEKc)

Jobs have been created but no one wants to take them. I was involuntarily retired in Jan with intention to get a stress free part time job. I would be a fool to do so right now since unemployment is paying me a ridiculous amount of money.

Posted by: Can't help myself at May 07, 2021 10:31 AM (TrOGC)

150 129 125 The Nazis cited American eugenics laws and such -- that wouldn't have looked good in American newspapers.
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Germany lead in chemistry at the turn of the century. It was the US that lead in eugenics. This was particularly true of the Ivy Leagues at the time.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 07, 2021 10:31 AM (/MaDp)

151 I've been looking at other apes but keep coming back to this one because of the col...err...the finger. Yeah, that's it, the finger.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 07, 2021 10:31 AM (axyOa)

152 66 yo here. No one jabbin my white ass over this shit.

Posted by: The Charlie Daniels of the Torque Wrench at May 07, 2021 10:31 AM (uFCZe)

153 Madame Sanger met with Herr Hitler.
Posted by: Axeman

There were big laughs at dead baby jokes.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 07, 2021 10:32 AM (VVEnO)

154
Lizzy, Oliver Darcy is also a disgusting maggot-person.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 07, 2021 10:32 AM (Uh2oA)

155 My relatively small employer is making the vax required. Added to the employee handbook and everything. In practical terms, it's now a term of employment: get the vax or get the ax. I'll do what I must to keep paying the mortgage but definitely chills my enthusiasm for the company.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 07, 2021 10:28 AM

...

I'd fake the submission form.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 07, 2021 10:32 AM (ohOLP)

156 Amazing how China has had absolutely no blowback for destroying life as we know it.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 07, 2021 10:32 AM (E+OcO)

157 I hear unemployment has mysteriously gone up and not nearly as many jobs created as was projected. Which is weird since supposedly companies can't get enough workers which is causing supply problems , shortages and price increase. What a screwed up mess.. But all Trumps fault I'm told, nothing to to with trillions of free money,paying people to sit on their ass and scare them into not working because much too dangerous to leave the couch.
Posted by: Ripley at May 07, 2021 10:24 AM (MxEKc)

I was supposed to be getting a new vehicle this month. Supposedly it was being built almost a month ago, so we were just waiting for it to arrive.

Earlier this week I was informed there's a worldwide computer chip shortage, so manufacture of my vehicle is on hold. No one knows when it'll be done.

Huh??? What the hell is wrong with this world? How are there no computer chips being made? Was there a flood? A landslide? A late freeze, so the crop of chips were all ruined?

Posted by: BurtTC at May 07, 2021 10:32 AM (U2EjU)

158 145 Also if you read Mein Kampf you will find that propaganda is not something that Hitler proposed, he observed its "benefits" and promoted it.

Outside of Mein Kampf, you learn that what he saw was the work of Edward Bernays for the Wilson administration.

Dems always relate the "Big Lie" to the Nazis, but the Nazis wouldn't have believed in the "Big Lie" without their advocacy for "propaganda", which they learned from American Democrats.
Posted by: Axeman at May 07, 2021 10:30 AM (cI7Oj)

We had the first modern propaganda ministry, known as the Committee on Public Information.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at May 07, 2021 10:32 AM (z5Vrg)

159 Regarding requiring vaccinations, OSHA recently issued guidance that companies requiring vaccinations against COVID must report adverse reactions to COVID vaccine as work related. This opens a can of liability worms for companies including workman's compensation claims, etc.

https://tinyurl.com/z356prpb

In addition, the companies may open themselves up to class action lawsuits from down the road problems with the vaccines because the vaccine is still under only emergency authorization and not FDA approved.

Posted by: whig at May 07, 2021 10:33 AM (pO7gM)

160 We're also going to need proof of your quarterly booster shots.

Tee hee

Posted by: Corporations at May 07, 2021 10:33 AM (lphXC)

161
Like many of her victims, Sanger died eight days before her birthday.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 07, 2021 10:33 AM (Uh2oA)

162 Amazing how China has had absolutely no blowback for destroying life as we know it.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 07, 2021 10:32 AM (E+OcO)

The left is protecting them by forbidding you to call it the chinese virus oer wUHAN flu or no msg

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 07, 2021 10:33 AM (GPwVZ)

163 My son in Philly called to say hes gettin 700 a week for 70 weeks between NJ and Fed. Im proud of him. Burn it down.

Posted by: The Charlie Daniels of the Torque Wrench at May 07, 2021 10:33 AM (uFCZe)

164 For those that for whatever reason, do not want to take the experimental COVID jab, here is a form to give to your employer to sign:

https://tinyurl.com/4f54bfxd

This form discusses simple things that need to be addressed IF you get sick/die at some point after the jab-- your health insurance details, life insurance, workman's comp, disability and so on. Recently, OSHA has determined that if you are required to take this injection by your job, your employer is responsible for what happens to you.

Posted by: Vyx at May 07, 2021 10:33 AM (uxqZF)

165 CDC has come to mean Clown Depot Central.

Posted by: aelfheld at May 07, 2021 10:33 AM (Zy9Yy)

166 I'm assuming most of these companies are trying limit liability. If a few people start filing suits over being forced to get the vax, it'll slow this down.

They are looking for the path of least resistance. Resist.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at May 07, 2021 10:33 AM (Wm5SB)

167 Sanger is getting her wish. I hope she's smiling as she burns in hell.

Blacks were supposed to be about 35% of the US population by now. Instead, they're only 17%, and dropping.

Why? Because so many black babies are murdered before they're born.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 07, 2021 10:29 AM (JZT2F)

Rodrigo, do you have a source for that? I'd like to use it.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 07, 2021 10:34 AM (axyOa)

168 Damn it, missed the art titties.

They were very nice.

Anyway...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 07, 2021 10:34 AM (ifmtJ)

169 People are assholes. The waitress was gracious enough about it, but I assured her I would NOT be leaving a tip in the form on coins.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 07, 2021 10:17 AM (U2EjU)

Eh. A lot of times people will leave the coin change from the bill if they were paying in cash. Now if all they're leaving is the 1.67 in change from the $28.33 bill, that's a different story.

Posted by: Buzzion at May 07, 2021 10:34 AM (G2zl5)

170
I was supposed to be getting a new vehicle this month. Supposedly it was being built almost a month ago, so we were just waiting for it to arrive.

Earlier this week I was informed there's a worldwide computer chip shortage, so manufacture of my vehicle is on hold. No one knows when it'll be done.

Huh??? What the hell is wrong with this world? How are there no computer chips being made? Was there a flood? A landslide? A late freeze, so the crop of chips were all ruined?
Posted by: BurtTC at May 07, 2021 10:32 AM (U2EjU)

My guess is that we were working through the existing supply on hand and are now hitting that period when production shut down last year.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at May 07, 2021 10:34 AM (z5Vrg)

171 As far as the pharma IP goes?? Well, we had HCQ, Ivermectin, Vitamin D, etc. in our arsenal all along, but because it was effective and vouched for by Trump, it would have destroyed the whole scam.
=====

Treatment for life and health rather than dramatic illness and death.

I am just tired and sick of the whole thing. As a severe allergy sufferer, I have now been sentenced to purgatory and wearing my leper mask or hiding in my isolated island forever.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 07, 2021 10:34 AM (MIKMs)

172 I don't want to get too much into this - yet - until we have more information.

But I have a close relative hospitalized twice in 3 weeks and was just diagnosed with a (very) serious illness, who was first hospitalized after getting her second vax shot.

The doctors say there's a "remote chance" it could be related to the vax.

Because the medical community has forced me to distrust them immensely, I heard just hear that as "there's a chance..."

Not going to go off all half-assed without knowing more and possibly scare people here but I'm saying it because it's my reason for holding off. Until we know for reasonably sure it wasn't the vax. I will say that what she has is one of the things that have been discussed as a possible bad side-effect. It was the Moderna.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 07, 2021 10:34 AM (Bmy3R)

173 The BigGov/BigCorp marriage is already down the primrose commie (Fascist/totalitarian/whatever) path. Taxpayer funded research built "private" corporations, with some payback like Google/FB spying, and political censorship under the false banner of Muh Private Company".

And the theft of property by China is protected by Bidenesque grifters at every level. And now Plandemic kneecapped half of small business ... BigUnion is being given new life, but no one wants to work, preferring the NotWork From Home free guaranteed income.

But yes, the Biden (puppet) blitzkrieg war on all our liberties (sovereign rights) is amazing/alarming ... who will stop the globalist cabal. (Who will stand in the gap? Are there any more Ezekiels, Isaiahs, Jeremiahs, or are they all turned into bullfrogs?)

Posted by: illiniwek at May 07, 2021 10:34 AM (Cus5s)

174
Huh??? What the hell is wrong with this world? How are there no computer chips being made? Was there a flood? A landslide? A late freeze, so the crop of chips were all ruined?

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=242308

Trade war with China. We're losing.

Posted by: Vyx at May 07, 2021 10:35 AM (uxqZF)

175 Bingo, Rodrigo.

If BLM actually cared about black lives, shutting down Planned Parenthood would be one of their top priorities.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 07, 2021 10:35 AM (GDQ3B)

176 I'm waiting for the Robert's court to determine stealing patents isn't a 5th Amendment violation because COVID.

Posted by: aelfheld at May 07, 2021 10:35 AM (Zy9Yy)

177 157 BurtTC, you are seeing the fruits of Just in Time inventory systems adopted worldwide. A disruption in supply of a component from one country then affects the provision of the final goods worldwide.

In addition, the governments world wide have been fueling the fire by issuing fiat money in the trillions of dollar range. Thus, more money is chasing less actual goods provided in the market which results in inflation.

Posted by: whig at May 07, 2021 10:35 AM (pO7gM)

178 150 Posted by: Puddin Head at May 07, 2021 10:31 AM (/MaDp)

"I took a trip to the Kellogg Institute in Battle Creek Michigan to get briefed on the societal risks of the wrong people rutting" was the go to defense.

Given Kellogg was a democrat in good standing upon his death it was silently tabled.

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:36 AM (Lzpvj)

179 The right answer would have been ratcheting trade war with the foreign malefactors.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 07, 2021 10:29 AM (Jsjd7)

And why, it's almost as if flooding the zone with China cash, and/or sexy Chinese "interpreters" to come work for congresscritters and oligarchs caused these people to rethink the benefits of trade wars, and learn to love the destruction of American manufacturing.

Almost.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 07, 2021 10:36 AM (U2EjU)

180 132 My relatively small employer is making the vax required. Added to the employee handbook and everything. In practical terms, it's now a term of employment: get the vax or get the ax. I'll do what I must to keep paying the mortgage but definitely chills my enthusiasm for the company.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 07, 2021 10:28 AM (qc+VF)

I'm sorry. This is horrible.

Posted by: m at May 07, 2021 10:36 AM (fVJPF)

181 C'mon guys, Hitler learned everything he knew about big government from Bismark, Lenin and Stalin. His big thought was Germans were smarter than Russians and tougher than Frenchmen. Hitler was right. His big problem was he was a compulsive gambler.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 07, 2021 10:36 AM (/MaDp)

182 If BLM actually cared about black lives, shutting down Planned Parenthood would be one of their top priorities.
Posted by: callsign claymore at May 07, 2021 10:35 AM (GDQ3B)
++++
Nah.

It's "Black *Lives* Matter" - not "Black *Clumps of Cells* Matter" ...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 07, 2021 10:36 AM (Jsjd7)

183 "We can only do that if everybody's vaccinated."

**

Cuz that's how vaccines work.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 07, 2021 10:36 AM (nMXLX)

184 Burt - I ordered a new car about a month ago. I haven't even heard when it will go into the production queue and probably will have to wait for the 2022 model year.

The chip shortage is due to a drought in Taiwan last I heard and it affecting everything that uses a processor. Ordered a new computer for my wife over a month ago, no word yet on when they will try to build it.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 07, 2021 10:37 AM (5p7BC)

185 >>Silly question: Are any of these big stupid corporations that require employees to be corona vaxxed going require vaccination for anything else?

Sure, why not -- now that this has been normalized.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 07, 2021 10:37 AM (bDqIh)

186 So the FBI person said, what's to stop us from taking you out back and harvest your organs?

I dare you to knock these delusions of grandeur off my shoulder. Double dare you.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 07, 2021 10:37 AM (o89XP)

187 "The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is updating K-12
school guidance to reflect the latest science on physical distance
between students in classrooms."

the latest science. Oddly usually seems to be worse for us than the previous latest science.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 07, 2021 10:37 AM (4a9Vv)

188 At the campus where I work, faculty and off-campus folks have been ordered back after classes are over. We are supposed to go back to on-campus classes for Fall 2021. Our "mothership" campus may have different rules and a lot of folks are still off-campus. They are renovating a space to be a major cubicle farm, but who know how many people they will let back in.

Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 07, 2021 10:37 AM (ZIoLS)

189 And why, it's almost as if flooding the zone with China cash, and/or sexy Chinese "interpreters" to come work for congresscritters and oligarchs caused these people to rethink the benefits of trade wars, and learn to love the destruction of American manufacturing.

Almost.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 07, 2021 10:36 AM (U2EjU)
++++
The only domestic manufacturing that anyone in the establishment remotely cares about is vote manufacturing.

During election and recession years, they also pretend to care about automobiles and airplanes.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 07, 2021 10:38 AM (Jsjd7)

190 DA in Aurora, CO dismisses all remaining charges against protestors who forcibly occupied a police station during a riot last summer, because the rioters acknowledge that what they did was against the law.

"Significant lines were crossed during the protest at Aurora's District One Police Station. It is not peaceful protest to tie the doors of a police station and prevent police officers from responding to calls for service. Doing so is against the law, puts our community at risk, and undermines the principles of the First Amendment. I am gratified that the five individuals, whose cases I dismiss today, say they agree with these sentiments," Mason said.

https://tinyurl.com/vwkepb36

Isn't that tantamount to a guilty plea?

Posted by: Muldoon at May 07, 2021 10:38 AM (Fc5rx)

191 Vaccination is required to continue receiving welfare benefits and Section 8 housing. Then employers can start discussing their terms.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 07, 2021 10:38 AM (nMXLX)

192 I think Nancy Reagan's advice regarding drugs applies to the COVID cocktail...just say "No".

Posted by: creeper at May 07, 2021 10:38 AM (XxJt1)

193 When is someone going to challange all the money being distributed only because of color?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 07, 2021 10:38 AM (GPwVZ)

194 I'm waiting for the Robert's court to determine stealing patents isn't a 5th Amendment violation because COVID.
Posted by: aelfheld at May 07, 2021 10:35 AM (Zy9Yy)
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I'm starting to appreciate Bolt's Thomas More and more.

Posted by: Axeman at May 07, 2021 10:38 AM (cI7Oj)

195 hiya

Posted by: JT at May 07, 2021 10:38 AM (arJlL)

196 All of my friends are getting the jab.
I feel like I'm living around crazy people.

Getting an untested vaccine for a disease that is treatable by inexpensive prescription drugs and has a 99.5% survival rate?

I....I just don't get it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 07, 2021 10:38 AM (ifmtJ)

197 Isn't that tantamount to a guilty plea?
Posted by: Muldoon at May 07, 2021 10:38 AM (Fc5rx)
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Yeah, but so what? If the past five years haven't provided enough evidence that we're post-law, I don't know what will.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 07, 2021 10:39 AM (Jsjd7)

198 Zero trust is a bitch. And it's monumentally inefficient and thus expensive and limiting. These tools (or their offspring) will one day lament that they destroyed the tremendous luxury and efficiency that are possible only in high-trust civilizations.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 07, 2021 10:24 AM (Jsjd7)

Zero-trust is the end of the road for civilizations.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 07, 2021 10:39 AM (z79tQ)

199 181 Posted by: Puddin Head at May 07, 2021 10:36 AM (/MaDp)

They learned plenty from American progressives.

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:39 AM (Lzpvj)

200 "The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is updating K-12
school guidance to reflect the latest science on physical distance
between students in classrooms."

***

All while there have been zero mass outbreaks or superspreader events since schools have been open since last September.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 07, 2021 10:39 AM (nMXLX)

201 Is anybody else having trouble with this page loading in? I can barely get all the graphics and sometimes can't click on a link.
Trying to figure out of it's my computer or something else. TIA

Posted by: pj at May 07, 2021 10:39 AM (G1dq6)

202 The university where I used to teach requires that before going onto campus, you must go online and fill out a questionnaire stating that you do not have the Chink Stink. It is sent to HR.
I never do it for the times I go in to check my faculty inbox that never has mail anymore.
Not many students there anyway.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 07, 2021 10:39 AM (axyOa)

203 People are assholes. The waitress was gracious enough about it, but I assured her I would NOT be leaving a tip in the form on coins.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 07, 2021 10:17 AM (U2EjU)

Eh. A lot of times people will leave the coin change from the bill if they were paying in cash. Now if all they're leaving is the 1.67 in change from the $28.33 bill, that's a different story.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 07, 2021 10:34 AM (G2zl5)

Bingo. More than a dollars worth of coins. No bills.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 07, 2021 10:39 AM (U2EjU)

204 RE: pharma patents, there is an interesting take on it here:

https://tinyurl.com/yta36jd3

If there is anything synthetic in your human genome, whoever owns the patent for the synthetic material may own you or part of you.

Posted by: Vyx at May 07, 2021 10:39 AM (Ve6n5)

205 Any updates on the CIA/FBI shooter? It's been two days now, right?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 07, 2021 10:40 AM (nMXLX)

206 DA in Aurora, CO dismisses all remaining charges against protestors who forcibly occupied a police station during a riot last summer, because the rioters acknowledge that what they did was against the law.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 07, 2021 10:38 AM (Fc5rx)
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Can the Capitol trespassers get that kind of deal?

"That was wrong and I will not do it again."

Posted by: Axeman at May 07, 2021 10:40 AM (cI7Oj)

207 "Huh??? What the hell is wrong with this world? How are there no
computer chips being made? Was there a flood? A landslide? A late
freeze, so the crop of chips were all ruined?"

I'm of the opinion the Corana Pandemic Hoax has become self aware, hates us and is determined to destroy humanity.

Posted by: Ripley at May 07, 2021 10:40 AM (MxEKc)

208 I was thinking about the employer corona vaxx idiocy from a different angle. How many employers require vaccination for: Hepatitus, Rotavirus, Diptheria, Polio, Measles, Tetanus, Meningococcal...?

Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at May 07, 2021 10:40 AM (3AD8C)

209 190 Posted by: Muldoon at May 07, 2021 10:38 AM (Fc5rx)

"They are young democrats it's all good bra!"

//Not the deal we will get

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:40 AM (Lzpvj)

210 The Hill
@thehill
Minnesota governor slams politicization of mask wearing: "One of the worst things that's happened to this country"

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Boy, you said it!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 07, 2021 10:40 AM (VVEnO)

211 All of my friends are getting the jab.
I feel like I'm living around crazy people.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 07, 2021 10:38 AM (ifmtJ)

Me too, Mark. It's a horrible, unsettling feeling.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 07, 2021 10:40 AM (Ez6QX)

212 >"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is updating K-12 school guidance to reflect the latest science.."

LOL suckers

Posted by: havelhavolim at May 07, 2021 10:41 AM (fLpTX)

213 How is it legal for a business to even ask about the vaccination status of their employees, never mind demand vaccinations of their employees? Doesn't this violate HIPPA?

Posted by: squeakywheel at May 07, 2021 10:41 AM (mL2J9)

214 Social distancing in public schools reduced from 6' to 3' because so many of the students in public schools can't count as high as six.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 07, 2021 10:41 AM (Fc5rx)

215 "So the employer has come out with the following: You can return to work at the office as of July 1st if ..."

Why would _anyone_ want to work in an office instead of from home?

Offices == Productivity Killers.
Meetings == Death By Futility.
Telephones == Satan's Pitchforks.
Coworkers == Concentration Inhibitors.

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at May 07, 2021 10:41 AM (qpX6U)

216
Getting an untested vaccine for a disease that is treatable by inexpensive prescription drugs and has a 99.5% survival rate?

I....I just don't get it.

Welcome to the party. I know scientists who have HAD COVID who have natural antibodies that still got the injection. Which is completely anti-science, since they do not need it. These are men from their 30's to their 70's, some of who have PhDs.

Posted by: Vyx at May 07, 2021 10:41 AM (Ve6n5)

217 Zero-trust is the end of the road for civilizations.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 07, 2021 10:39 AM (z79tQ)

Zero Year, Zero Trust, Zero Fucks.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 07, 2021 10:41 AM (jvt6t)

218 That pausing of patents just might be a tiny cheep-cheep from the canary. The Canada's not in really big trouble, but it's getting suspicious. Maybe the big boys might get a clue that putting the Biden junta into office wasn't the smartest move.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- current occupation: cat furniture at May 07, 2021 10:42 AM (efX5n)

219 213 How is it legal for a business to even ask about the vaccination status of their employees, never mind demand vaccinations of their employees? Doesn't this violate HIPPA?
Posted by: squeakywheel at May 07, 2021 10:41 AM (mL2J9)

========

No, it doesn't.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:42 AM (LvTSG)

220 Getting an untested vaccine for a disease that is treatable by inexpensive prescription drugs and has a 99.5% survival rate?

I....I just don't get it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 07, 2021 10:38 AM (ifmtJ)

Then you're missing the goal.
Which is the debasement of the individual by any means necessary.
This whole pandemic is dehumanizing. Not the virus, but the response by all who crave power.
And the point is that you are a bug, to be treated as a bug, and have life at the pleasure of your masters, of which there are many.

Most will knuckle under.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 07, 2021 10:42 AM (z79tQ)

221 172 Guy Smiley, if it is blood related or respiratory in nature, it could very well be the vaccine at fault. There is some speculation regarding the protein spike causing problems with the immune system attacking ACE2 receptors that have been blocked by the vaccine.

Above my pay grade but there is a reason for extensive medical trials of pharmaceutical products as frequently they have bad side effects only uncovered after massive adoption. In a sense, the West lacks people that are systems analysts versus technicians that solve one problem and but create another or even multiples of troubles.

Posted by: whig at May 07, 2021 10:42 AM (pO7gM)

222 Burt - I ordered a new car about a month ago. I haven't even heard when it will go into the production queue and probably will have to wait for the 2022 model year.

The chip shortage is due to a drought in Taiwan last I heard and it affecting everything that uses a processor. Ordered a new computer for my wife over a month ago, no word yet on when they will try to build it.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 07, 2021 10:37 AM (5p7BC)

So in other words, China is in the process of taking control of EVERYTHING that uses computers.

In addition to buying up massive acreage of American farmlands. And ports all around the world.

I'm sure it'll all work out just fine.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 07, 2021 10:42 AM (U2EjU)

223 Is anybody else having trouble with this page loading in?

Yeah, sometimes it loads pretty slowly but it's usually transient. The front page, however, is a different story. It is downright painful to load ace.mu.nu with JavaScript turned on.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 07, 2021 10:42 AM (qc+VF)

224 We have 6 people in my house, two 20-ish girls, both got jabbed ASAP.

3 people in total (one is a senior so...)

Posted by: Axeman at May 07, 2021 10:42 AM (cI7Oj)

225 If your employer is forcing vaccination to continue employment, does that mean they are accepting responsibility if you suffer any ill effects from the vaccine?

Posted by: EveR at May 07, 2021 10:42 AM (ZZDMQ)

226 196 the form my husband signed for each shot gave permission to report receipt of the shot to the CDC. That was at a state run clinic at a county facility. I don't know what CVS has a person sign.
People are happily doing this.

In my husband's case, he is 80 and " long term" effects don't mean as much as they would have at 40.

Posted by: CN at May 07, 2021 10:43 AM (ONvIw)

227 205 Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 07, 2021 10:40 AM (nMXLX)

Obviously a disgruntled "special" employee or politically unhelpful individual....

we will never get it reported vociferously.

https://heavy.com/news/roy-gordon-cole/

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:43 AM (Lzpvj)

228 Posted by: Oddbob at May 07, 2021 10:28 AM (qc+VF)

It's worth it... the sooner you get vaccinated, the sooner you will love Big Brother.

Posted by: 496 at May 07, 2021 10:43 AM (U1eOr)

229 All of my friends are getting the jab.
I feel like I'm living around crazy people.

Getting an untested vaccine for a disease that is treatable by inexpensive prescription drugs and has a 99.5% survival rate?

I....I just don't get it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 07, 2021 10:38 AM (ifmtJ)

My wife and two kids (both young adults with absolutely ZERO risk) got the jab as soon as they could.... I'm living in crazy town (sigh)

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 07, 2021 10:43 AM (pcsoT)

230 I drink all your anti bodies.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 07, 2021 10:43 AM (o89XP)

231 225 no.

Posted by: CN at May 07, 2021 10:43 AM (ONvIw)

232 Why would _anyone_ want to work in an office instead of from home?

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at May 07, 2021 10:41 AM (qpX6U)

I have to. My job is 90% paper-driven. When I was quarantined for two weeks and had to work from home it was a nightmare. Plus, my mom lives with me and is kind of deaf, so it's super-loud Hallmark Channel all day long.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 07, 2021 10:43 AM (Ez6QX)

233 Any updates on the CIA/FBI shooter? It's been two days now, right?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 07, 2021 10:40 AM (nMXLX)

I guess we can rule out the possibility he was white.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 07, 2021 10:44 AM (U2EjU)

234 >>> Huh??? What the hell is wrong with this world? How are there no computer chips being made? Was there a flood? A landslide? A late freeze, so the crop of chips were all ruined?
Posted by: BurtTC at May 07, 2021 10:32 AM (U2EjU)

An additional cause is Chinese crypto curr. miners are buying up the gpu resources that diminish the fungible supply of silicon used for anything including automotive chips. I think this goes for the new crypto blockchain work through storage as much as the more prevalent cpu work. Pixy's morning news covers some of this on occasion.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 07, 2021 10:44 AM (bYTQR)

235 Mark Andrew Edwards, howdy.

All of us have been browbeaten by a multi-layered psyop for over a year.

Fear, panic, worry have been deliberately stoked to stampede us into being guinea pigs for psychos and politicians.

Happy, confident people would never buy into getting the CV19 injections.

Great Reset, man. Massive population reduction and more.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 07, 2021 10:44 AM (GDQ3B)

236 My relatively small employer is making the vax required. Added to the employee handbook and everything. In practical terms, it's now a term of employment: get the vax or get the ax. I'll do what I must to keep paying the mortgage but definitely chills my enthusiasm for the company.

Make them fire you; do not quit. Right now, the injection is experimental, and forcing you to take it is against the international law. You can find a lawyer here:

https://thecovidblog.com/covidlegalusa-com/

Also... most people should not go to this blog. It is extremely disconcerting, since it has a lot of material that is being censored in places like Facebook.

Posted by: Vyx at May 07, 2021 10:44 AM (Ve6n5)

237 All Morons should read Karl D's market ticker re: these vaccines 1st.

This could end badly.

Posted by: DaveA at May 07, 2021 10:14 AM (FhXTo)
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Yup. Karl D made the point that it's one thing to voluntarily get the vaccine but, it's quite another for a company to force employees to take the vaccination, because, then, liability for any side effects reverts to the employer, not the maker of the vaccine.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at May 07, 2021 10:45 AM (2SdPm)

238 Doing so is against the law, puts our community at risk, and undermines the principles of the First Amendment. I am gratified that the five individuals, whose cases I dismiss today, say they agree with these sentiments," Mason said.

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That whole killing the Jews thing, my bad.

Posted by: Adolph "Der Gross Kraut" Hitler at May 07, 2021 10:45 AM (VVEnO)

239 Vote Harder bitches. This is what 20 Repuke Senators voted for by confirming Merrick Garland. Four Minneapolis police were indicted for depriving Saint George Floyd of his civil rights.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at May 07, 2021 10:45 AM (y7DUB)

240 I've seen my doctor a couple of times lately. He's not pushing me real hard to get the vaccine.

Posted by: gp, Standing Up For What's Too Hard To Reach Whilst Sitting at May 07, 2021 10:45 AM (qpX6U)

241 We were discussing it again a day or so ago and someone made a point that reinforced the fecal-oral route as the main method of transmission.

Food service folks follow food service guidelines, which is why you don't constantly see a lot of nasty bugs being spread on food. We haven't had any superspreader / mass outbreaks from restaurants, even though it's super contagious and asymptomatic people can spread it.

Fecal/oral is why.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 07, 2021 10:45 AM (nMXLX)

242 Zero-trust is the end of the road for civilizations.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 07, 2021 10:39 AM (z79tQ)
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Yup. And you're soaking in it (as am I, of course).

The real bitch of it is that you don't know when you're at the inflection point in real time - it's visible only in retrospect like all exponential functions (that's the "slowly at first, then suddenly" thing and it's very real).

I suspect we're at or near the inflection point, but I don't know for sure and neither does anyone else. Nor do I know which side of it we're on if we are near it. But once we cross it, things start falling apart *really* quickly.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 07, 2021 10:45 AM (Jsjd7)

243 Colorado Costanzas: "Was that wrong? Should we not have done that?"

Posted by: Axeman at May 07, 2021 10:45 AM (cI7Oj)

244 My relatively small employer is making the vax required. Added to the employee handbook and everything. In practical terms, it's now a term of employment: get the vax or get the ax. I'll do what I must to keep paying the mortgage but definitely chills my enthusiasm for the company.

You could consider pointing out to them that the pharma companies were exempted from lawsuits over the vaccines but they are not.

Probably wouldn't do any good, though.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 07, 2021 10:45 AM (EjmvJ)

245 It's the Branch COVIDians' world. We're just living in it.

Posted by: Insomniac at May 07, 2021 10:45 AM (II3Gr)

246 Hospitals have demanded flu shots, ppd tests, hepatitis shots, and whatever else infection control committees come up with for a long time now .

Posted by: CN at May 07, 2021 10:45 AM (ONvIw)

247 I am getting the jab for 3 reasons:

1) I love my job and it will eventually be mandatory given I work with feds

2) I am heavily insured and if I tap out my wife will get a nice payment from DoD

3) I am content enough with the life I have led to act as a safety pathfinder for the family.

I think I'll be fine, if not I will eventually be fine after a 5300 year stretch in purgatory.

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:46 AM (Lzpvj)

248 220 OneEyedJack,
When someone's life or health is at stake, people tend to be more cautious. This is not something like making people stop calling it China Flu.

Ironically, materialists are the most anal about it as they view their life as the only one they have.

The truth is that most government power rests on illusions that are widely adopted and not direct coercion. When the illusion shatters, massive unrest generally follows. In other words, coercion works until it doesn't and then the predators become the prey.

Posted by: whig at May 07, 2021 10:46 AM (pO7gM)

249 Zero-trust is the end of the road for civilizations.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 07, 2021 10:39 AM (z79tQ)
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Which makes Year Zero. So its a rollover function.

Posted by: Axeman at May 07, 2021 10:46 AM (cI7Oj)

250 Is anybody else having trouble with this page loading in?

No, I've been getting loaded every morning now for some time.
Oh...you mean the computer. Yeah, its a bit slow.
Like me.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 07, 2021 10:46 AM (axyOa)

251 "It's worth it... the sooner you get vaccinated, the sooner you will love Big Brother.

Posted by: 496"

Bending the knee and getting the vax will create herd immunity to conservative ideas.

Posted by: Ripley at May 07, 2021 10:46 AM (MxEKc)

252
Corporations: After chucking out all our older employees because they're a potential expense, we want to return to normal with double masking, stringent distancing and increased work demands to make up for your slacking off this last year.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 07, 2021 10:46 AM (mht8P)

253 72 As far as the pharma IP goes?? Well, we had HCQ, Ivermectin, Vitamin D, etc. in our arsenal all along, but because it was effective and vouched for by Trump, it would have destroyed the whole scam.

So, fuck them. They lay down with dogs...enjoy the fleas.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 07, 2021 10:17 AM (jvt6t)

So, we've all heard about the deaths in India due to COVID. Let's have a multiple-choice quiz.

As of today, per Bing, 21,754,947 Indian citizens have been with COVID-19. How many people have died so far?

a) 2,175,494 (10%)
b) 236,410 (1%)

I'm wondering if the prevalence of HCQ in India may be helping or hurting the totals. We haven't heard about it for some time, and I know that we're not going to be told.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 07, 2021 10:46 AM (mdjgu)

254 "Hey Pfizer, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson, you know those patents you have? Well, we want to suspend those."

Totally cool with this as long as we are watching every burn down anyways

But I cannot imagine being more mixed because on the one hand I'd love to see these evil and I mean we want emergency authorization so that we can inject 2-11 year old kids evil company to burn up in hellfire but at that same time I believe that um medicine can sometimes I dunno come in handy

But really come on who are we kidding. They will let these demons have their patents and their emergency authorization to drug up the 2-11 years olds. They will just demand sacrifices like MOAR diversity hires

Posted by: havelhavolim at May 07, 2021 10:46 AM (fLpTX)

255 Minnesota governor slams politicization of mask wearing: "One of the worst things that's happened to this country"

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Boy, you said it!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 07, 2021 10:40 AM (VVEnO)

Does he live in a fucking cave?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 07, 2021 10:47 AM (89T5c)

256 Food service folks follow food service guidelines, which is why you don't constantly see a lot of nasty bugs being spread on food.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 07, 2021 10:45 AM (nMXLX)

*cough* Chipotle *cough*

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 07, 2021 10:47 AM (Ez6QX)

257 My workplace has been back in the office since April 2020. Mask requirements came later and are still in effect.

I think the times that people came back to work are vastly different depending on your state/city/local govt.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 07, 2021 10:47 AM (1ISKN)

258 "...Willie breath..." LMAO!!! Kum 'guzzala' Harris!!!

Posted by: KD9RBN at May 07, 2021 10:47 AM (f++n4)

259 134

This is nothing new. Value of stocks is and always has been primarily based on interest rates.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 07, 2021 10:47 AM (4A0e9)

260 I've seen my doctor a couple of times lately. He's not pushing me real hard to get the vaccine.

Posted by: gp, Standing Up For What's Too Hard To Reach Whilst Sitting at May 07, 2021 10:45 AM (qpX6U)

Mine either. He's far more concerned about the pneumonia shot. He got my attention when he said not getting it will affect my short irons.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 07, 2021 10:48 AM (axyOa)

261 "You sell this on the open market for $25 a dose. We'll give you $0.50 a dose. If you don't sell at that price, we'll break your patent and manufacture it domestically." So the manufacturer sells at that price, because the United States government does nothing to protect their property rights. The US should, when that happens, immediately embargo the other country or tax the shit out of all trade with them until they back down.

Instead, we let it happen. We'll let this happen, too.

Add in Joe Mannix, that we will pull all your green cards and visas and send all your Indians and Chinese home.

Posted by: clutch at May 07, 2021 10:48 AM (9UmRs)

262 233 Posted by: BurtTC at May 07, 2021 10:44 AM (U2EjU)

I suspect not, I think he was a politically troublesome democrat employee, candidate, appointee, contractor, or person of interest.

I posted the heavy.com on him.

His social media is being scrubbed as much as there was to insulate the left from their latest fruits.

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:48 AM (Lzpvj)

263 255
Does he live in a fucking cave?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 07, 2021 10:47 AM (89T5c)

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"Hold on...I have a thought...give me a sec...where's my pen?"
-Plato

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:48 AM (LvTSG)

264 I much prefer Biden suspending the patents to the American taxpayer subsidizing vaccination across the third world.

We already subsidize enough medications across the world, as it is.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at May 07, 2021 10:48 AM (2SdPm)

265 We already subsidize enough medications across the world, as it is.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at May 07, 2021 10:48 AM (2SdPm)

And pay China to produce a lot of them.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 07, 2021 10:49 AM (1ISKN)

266 There is an argument for not getting the shot(s). The more people refuse, the harder it is to make it mandatory.

Posted by: Emmie at May 07, 2021 10:49 AM (ofYez)

267 Why would _anyone_ want to work in an office instead of from home?

Offices == Productivity Killers.
Meetings == Death By Futility.
Telephones == Satan's Pitchforks.
Coworkers == Concentration Inhibitors.
Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at May 07, 2021 10:41 AM (qpX6U)

My job is currently full-time telework. I was hired on during the lockdown, but before the kung flu hit they were already working from home three days a week. The division chief is trying to get permission for full-time telework permanently, although I've heard rumors that they'll want us in the office one day a week. That seems stupid, since there will be no way to be productive that day.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 07, 2021 10:49 AM (jOcSX)

268 Silly question: Are any of these big stupid corporations that require employees to be corona vaxxed going require vaccination for anything else?
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Remember when insurance companies attempted to require health evaluations for group coverage? If an employee was diagnosed as 'obese' they had to attend a gym and diet counseling to retain health insurance and/or their job.

Posted by: mustbequantum at May 07, 2021 10:49 AM (MIKMs)

269 >it's quite another for a company to force employees to take the vaccination,

well, it's not like they can hold you down while they forcibly jab your arm (not yet anyway)

if your boss says you gotta get the shot to work here, you can get the shot and work, or you are free to quit

This is what the lawyers will tell you

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 07, 2021 10:49 AM (iTXRQ)

270 Today's job print was the second biggest in our history. Let that sink in for a minute. Also, the fact that most of this economy is fueled by government spending, which they want more of. Inflation is rising and it won't be "transitional". A storm is brewing.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 07, 2021 10:50 AM (VpIIl)

271 This is nothing new. Value of stocks is and always has been primarily based on ~~interest rates~~ mob mentality.

Edited for accuracy.

Posted by: Oddbob at May 07, 2021 10:50 AM (qc+VF)

272 221 172 Guy Smiley, if it is blood related or respiratory in nature, it could very well be the vaccine at fault. There is some speculation regarding the protein spike causing problems with the immune system attacking ACE2 receptors that have been blocked by the vaccine.

There is some info here on it:

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=242248

The spike protein is what's hurting people. There are three studies that prove it that are linked in the article above. The injection can cause the disease. And other bad things.

Posted by: Vyx at May 07, 2021 10:50 AM (WAylS)

273 * second biggest miss

Posted by: Marcus T at May 07, 2021 10:50 AM (VpIIl)

274 *cough* Chipotle *cough*
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 07, 2021 10:47 AM (Ez6QX)

Jordan, for excessively loud Hallmark noise (and other sources) at home, I have a fan in my work area that muffles the sound pretty well, and I have used a white noise machine too (is that now racist?) I like this one (link goes to Amazon):

https://is.gd/AqVaUu

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 07, 2021 10:50 AM (PiwSw)

275 *cough* Chipotle *cough*
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 07, 2021 10:47 AM (Ez6QX)

I see these comments about Chipotle and honestly don't understand them. I eat at Chipotle *every single day* for the last decade-plus (not kidding - yeah, I'm strange) and I've never once had an issue...

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 07, 2021 10:50 AM (pcsoT)

276 Minnesota governor slams politicization of mask wearing: "One of the worst things that's happened to this country"

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Boy, you said it!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 07, 2021 10:40 AM (VVEnO)

Does he live in a fucking cave?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

Well, Walz' brain works only 3/4 time.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 07, 2021 10:50 AM (VVEnO)

277 if your boss says you gotta get the shot to work here, you can get the shot and work, or you are free to quit

This is what the lawyers will tell you
Posted by: DB- just DB at May 07, 2021 10:49 AM (iTXRQ)
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And if you point out to the lawyers the liability issue, they might just cave.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at May 07, 2021 10:50 AM (2SdPm)

278 There is an argument for not getting the shot(s). The more people refuse, the harder it is to make it mandatory.
Posted by: Emmie at May 07, 2021 10:49 AM (ofYez)

***

This is the only way forward, honestly. Our representatives don't care and are, frankly, all on the same team.

Irish democracy is the only choice.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 07, 2021 10:50 AM (nMXLX)

279 Does he live in a fucking cave?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 07, 2021 10:47 AM (89T5c)

The Dems burned through massive amounts of political, social, and economic capital over the past year, all to get rid of Orangemanbad. Now they're discovering just what the costs, and consequences of those decisions are going to be, and they are terrified.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 07, 2021 10:51 AM (jOcSX)

280 if your boss says you gotta get the shot to work here, you can get the shot and work, or you are free to quit

This is what the lawyers will tell you

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 07, 2021 10:49 AM (iTXRQ)

Just lie. Like a Clinton.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 07, 2021 10:51 AM (ufFY8)

281 279 Does he live in a fucking cave?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 07, 2021 10:47 AM (89T5c)

The Dems burned through massive amounts of political, social, and economic capital over the past year, all to get rid of Orangemanbad. Now they're discovering just what the costs, and consequences of those decisions are going to be, and they are terrified.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 07, 2021 10:51 AM (jOcSX)

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I thought voting didn't matter.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:51 AM (LvTSG)

282 "Hold on...I have a thought...give me a sec...where's my pen?"
-Plato
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:48 AM (LvTSG)
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As Plato reports (or pretends) to be mainly a scribe for Socrates, not sure you can attribute that to Plato.

Posted by: Axeman at May 07, 2021 10:51 AM (cI7Oj)

283 279 Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 07, 2021 10:51 AM (jOcSX)

One thought for you, and it is not I assure you a lecture.

Are you taking it as a matter of faith that they care that the nation is not in fact crushed?

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:52 AM (Lzpvj)

284 If you get the required shot and it causes cancer ten years from now, is that a workers comp claim?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 07, 2021 10:52 AM (nMXLX)

285 Why folks with low risk are getting the jab?

The vax has even lower risk of harm than the virus...and getting the vax can only be a help, not a hurt, for society. I mean, maybe it's useless, but then you haven't lost anything. But maybe it's not, and then you and society have gained greatly.

Not to mention, on top of the societal good and the possible "tiny" personal good for those "low risk" who get it, it's also an example of whom do you trust? The Chinese for what they say the virus is, or the US profit-based companies and scientists who say and made what the vax is?

For now, I pick capitalism and scientists/health care who jabbed themselves 1st. If they are wrong, they already have skins in the game to correct the wrongness later.

Posted by: Nova local at May 07, 2021 10:52 AM (b1h2x)

286 So if these big corps are going to require a vaccine, shouldn't they be liable if something happens to the person being forced to take it? Maybe people who don't choose to get the vaccine should have lawyer draw up something stating that the company is taking full responsibility and will be liable if there is injury or death caused by vaccine?

Posted by: spypeach at May 07, 2021 10:52 AM (Up/Jb)

287 266 There is an argument for not getting the shot(s). The more people refuse, the harder it is to make it mandatory.
Posted by: Emmie at May 07, 2021 10:49 AM (ofYez)

The argument is that this is not a vaccine. This is gene modification. Everyone who gets the "jab" is part of three experiment.

Posted by: Dandalo at May 07, 2021 10:52 AM (VMMSl)

288 I thought voting didn't matter.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:51 AM (LvTSG)

I've never said that, and I think it's bullshit. Yes, they cheated in 2020. But in order to do so they had to have a lot of tacit support from the GOP establishment, and they still almost lost. I don't think that they can pull off something like that again.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 07, 2021 10:52 AM (jOcSX)

289 if your boss says you gotta get the shot to work here, you can get the shot and work, or you are free to quit

This is what the lawyers will tell you

If you quit, you can't sue. Force them to fire you.

Posted by: Vyx at May 07, 2021 10:52 AM (WAylS)

290 Psucki to quit in the next year. It's time for a better liar to take the stage.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 07, 2021 10:53 AM (VpIIl)

291 If you've had c-19, interaction w the vaccine still seems to be an unknown. My GP told me to wait 90 days, but a friend's doc at the VA told him to wait a year. That is very disconcerting to me, that there is no known timeframe or gauge when to give it after infection.

Posted by: EveR at May 07, 2021 10:53 AM (ZZDMQ)

292 There has to be a particular and predictable amount of voting occurring in order for the cheating to also occur.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 07, 2021 10:53 AM (nMXLX)

293 285 Posted by: Nova local at May 07, 2021 10:52 AM (b1h2x)

You have a lot of trust that they were not injecting placebex, I applaud your innocence.

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:53 AM (Lzpvj)

294 >>> I see these comments about Chipotle and honestly don't understand them. I eat at Chipotle *every single day* for the last decade-plus (not kidding - yeah, I'm strange) and I've never once had an issue...
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 07, 2021 10:50 AM (pcsoT)

They did kill some people a few years ago with poopy organic vegetables. And Moe's is better anyway.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 07, 2021 10:53 AM (bYTQR)

295 So if these big corps are going to require a vaccine, shouldn't they be liable if something happens to the person being forced to take it? Maybe people who don't choose to get the vaccine should have lawyer draw up something stating that the company is taking full responsibility and will be liable if there is injury or death caused by vaccine?

See my link up thread at 164. And yes, employers are liable. OSHA has now pretty much said that. There's a link about that up thread as well.

Posted by: Vyx at May 07, 2021 10:54 AM (WAylS)

296 That is very disconcerting to me, that there is no known timeframe or gauge when to give it after infection.

***

If you've already had the COVID you have the best protection you can get.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 07, 2021 10:54 AM (nMXLX)

297 If you quit, you can't sue. Force them to fire you.
Posted by: Vyx at May 07, 2021 10:52 AM (WAylS)

That's my plan.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 07, 2021 10:54 AM (H3XYS)

298 Speaking of getting the jab I watched some execellent anal sex pron this morning. Lots of jabs.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 07, 2021 10:54 AM (/MaDp)

299 You just need to donate harder, so the GOP can continue supporting these fine corporations, proles.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 07, 2021 10:54 AM (H5knJ)

300 sven, all the CV19 injections are connected to cells from aborted kids.

Lifesitenews has a vaccine page with more info.

I'm hearing more about the mRna stuff causing bizarre menstruation in un-injected women. The injected are shedding something, probably spike proteins.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 07, 2021 10:54 AM (GDQ3B)

301 Psucki to quit in the next year. It's time for a better liar to take the stage.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 07, 2021 10:53 AM (VpIIl)

Even for the fully indoctrinated Komrades, continual lies take a toll on whatever soul they have.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 07, 2021 10:54 AM (axyOa)

302 Dems went for the Full Monty. You never go for the Full Monty, unless you can guarantee a Thousand Year Reich. The amount of crashing and burning over the next 12-18 months is going to be epic. Thank you Democrat voters.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 07, 2021 10:55 AM (VpIIl)

303 I was in an outdoor venue on Wednesday drinking a few beers. 99% of the people there had no masks on at all. Then this 20 something doof in skinnyjeans comes in and immediatelsy pulls up his gaiter. Then he kind of looks around and pulled it back down. That's the young mentality. They are easily brainwashed. And stupid.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 07, 2021 10:55 AM (jvt6t)

304 300 Posted by: callsign claymore at May 07, 2021 10:54 AM (GDQ3B)

Yes I am aware, I made my decision I love my job enough I caved on my principles.

Part of why I did an assessment of whether or not I was willing to die if need be.

I am.

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:55 AM (Lzpvj)

305 215 "So the employer has come out with the following: You can return to work at the office as of July 1st if ..."

Why would _anyone_ want to work in an office instead of from home?

what sort of job *can* work from home? sure, i'm a programmer, but i develop embedded software that runs on systems not available at home.

maybe if you're a paper pusher that pushes paper to other paper pushers, but other than that, i don't see how working at home works.

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at May 07, 2021 10:55 AM (v3pYe)

306
See my link up thread at 164. And yes, employers are liable. OSHA has now pretty much said that. There's a link about that up thread as well.
Posted by: Vyx at May 07, 2021 10:54 AM (WAylS)

Thanks

Posted by: spypeach at May 07, 2021 10:55 AM (Up/Jb)

307 I'm gonna send my grandpa on a beer run to the grocery store. Maybe he'll pick up a case of Corona while he's there!

Posted by: Muldoon at May 07, 2021 10:56 AM (Fc5rx)

308 I can picture all the lawyer TV ads 10 years from now....

Did you get Pfizer Covid vaccine? Are you now experiencing any of the following side effects? You may be entitled to a large cash settlement. Call now.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 07, 2021 10:56 AM (4A0e9)

309 Yes, they cheated in 2020. But in order to do so they had to have a lot of tacit support from the GOP establishment, and they still almost lost. I don't think that they can pull off something like that again.

Why wouldn't they pull it off again? Is the Supreme Court going to stop them? Is the military going to go against their woke generals to stop another steal? Who exactly is going to say "you did this in 2020, you can't do it again?" The GOPe? LOL.

They will do the same thing, and get the same result. And if anyone protests, their lives will be ruined and they will rot in jail.

Posted by: Vyx at May 07, 2021 10:56 AM (kFA7a)

310 Example:

Colorado has legal weed (it's the main reason the state has achieved "Shithole" status). You can legally buy possess and use pot.

But employers are free to say, 'you can smoke weed or you can work here, but you can't do both'.

(I'm no lawyer but I have seen My Cousin Vinny.)

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 07, 2021 10:56 AM (iTXRQ)

311 They did kill some people a few years ago with poopy organic vegetables. And Moe's is better anyway.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 07, 2021 10:53 AM (bYTQR)

What's Moe's??

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 07, 2021 10:56 AM (pcsoT)

312 288 I've never said that, and I think it's bullshit. Yes, they cheated in 2020. But in order to do so they had to have a lot of tacit support from the GOP establishment, and they still almost lost. I don't think that they can pull off something like that again.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 07, 2021 10:52 AM (jOcSX)

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Never said you did. I'm of the same mind.

The cheating was relegated to a handful of locations, and the presidential election allowed for focused cheating. The mail in aspect was heavily taken advantage of because of fear that won't exist next year. The GOPe was happy to go along to get rid of Trump, but they know now that they have to deliver next year if they want to continue as a going concern in the political world. There's also the base that knows it got cheated and isn't willing to pick up arms yet, hoping to see redress through the means we've become accustomed to over the past 250 years.

2022 should be a good year, especially if we can scare state level GOP legislatures to take action on election integrity in key states.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:56 AM (LvTSG)

313 Dems went for the Full Monty. You never go for the Full Monty, unless you can guarantee a Thousand Year Reich. The amount of crashing and burning over the next 12-18 months is going to be epic. Thank you Democrat voters.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 07, 2021 10:55 AM (VpIIl)
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Actual, factual Democrat voters didn't do this. They didn't deliver for the state, so the state delivered for itself. Voting for Biden is inexcusable, but not enough people actually did it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 07, 2021 10:56 AM (Jsjd7)

314 Dems went for the Full Monty. You never go for the Full Monty, unless you can guarantee a Thousand Year Reich. The amount of crashing and burning over the next 12-18 months is going to be epic. Thank you Democrat voters.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 07, 2021 10:55 AM (VpIIl)
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The GOPe is largely to blame for what has happened. Had not Paul "Lyan" Ryan, HT Karl D, reneged on his promises to take care of business, none of this would have taken place.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at May 07, 2021 10:56 AM (2SdPm)

315 Are you taking it as a matter of faith that they care that the nation is not in fact crushed?
Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:52 AM (Lzpvj)

I think that they want to keep their phony-baloney jobs and not be caught in whatever ugliness occurs when all the plates which they're trying to keep spinning come crashing down.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 07, 2021 10:57 AM (jOcSX)

316 308 Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 07, 2021 10:56 AM (4A0e9)

and it will be the first one I will happily sign on to, I assure you and I was a 90s hazmat worker.

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:57 AM (Lzpvj)

317 The Dems burned through massive amounts of political, social, and economic capital over the past year, all to get rid of Orangemanbad. Now they're discovering just what the costs, and consequences of those decisions are going to be, and they are terrified.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 07, 2021 10:51 AM (jOcSX)

The dems didn't have actual political capital, they had covid, BLM, riots, Russia, impeachments, the media narrative, and Big Tech. Follow that up with rigging an election and it just gives the appearance of political capital.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 07, 2021 10:57 AM (xfb67)

318 . .. if not I will eventually be fine after a 5300 year stretch in purgatory.
Posted by: sven

Show off!

Posted by: Tonypete at May 07, 2021 10:57 AM (Rvt88)

319 That Venus lady makes me feel funny.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at May 07, 2021 10:57 AM (X8XYH)

320 300 I'm hearing more about the mRna stuff causing bizarre menstruation in
un-injected women. The injected are shedding something, probably spike
proteins.
clearly, the injected need to wear more masks.

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at May 07, 2021 10:57 AM (sGtp+)

321 301 Even for the fully indoctrinated Komrades, continual lies take a toll on whatever soul they have.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 07, 2021 10:54 AM (axyOa)

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Or, her demo reel for MSNBC is full and she'll make more money on a dying network than in government.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:57 AM (LvTSG)

322 305

Seriously? You dont know how to run your programs on systems remotely? Lol.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 07, 2021 10:57 AM (4A0e9)

323 315 Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 07, 2021 10:57 AM (jOcSX)

I think the "great reset" has room enough in the lifeboats for maybe 15% of the "chosen."

The rest of us are f*cked.

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:58 AM (Lzpvj)

324 269 DB,
That is a distortion of at will employment law. In reality, the laws regarding personnel are a complex mix of state and federal law. As noted above, OSHA has already weighed in with guidance that makes companies requiring it as a work issue will have to report adverse consequences to the jab. Thus, you get into a complex of workmen's comp, class action lawsuits, state laws regarding what can and cannot be mandated, etc. The emergency authorization for the COVID vaccine also means that the company cannot rely on the safe harbor of FDA approval. Then, there is the ADA problem with people with known allergies and/or religious objections to the jab.

This is going to be a state by state issue, with the federal government putting its oar in, as well as local regulations.
In other words, a thicket that no sane company will do unless the laws are changed to give them safe harbor. The only exception may be the health care industry which has its own unique thicket of laws including those of conscience exemptions.

Posted by: whig at May 07, 2021 10:58 AM (pO7gM)

325 second biggest miss
Posted by: Marcus T at May 07, 2021 10:50 AM (VpIIl)

I'm surprised they just didn't lie more. It's not like they have any credibility to squander.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at May 07, 2021 10:58 AM (y7DUB)

326 I thought voting didn't matter.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:51 AM (LvTSG)

It doesn't. I don't think they're the least bit concerned.

BTW TCM has the silent "Our Dancing Daughters" on with a 24yo Crawford competing with Anita Page for the man of their dreams while dancing and drinking. F Scott adored Crawford in the role.

Posted by: CN at May 07, 2021 10:58 AM (ONvIw)

327 In my past I would have felt bad for the Big Pharma companies. Now? Screw them. They deliberately lied about common meds so they could score billions pushing the poison we are being "encouraged" to inject. They are evil and unscrupulous and deserve nothing in terms of fair play.

Posted by: Mookie at May 07, 2021 10:58 AM (u+Y3T)

328 @politicalmath was sure there was not going to be a vaccine passport; I took comfort in that; I should check to see if he's updated on that.

Posted by: m at May 07, 2021 10:58 AM (fVJPF)

329 The vax has even lower risk of harm than the virus...and getting the vax can only be a help, not a hurt, for society.

***

Except for the part where somewhere around 85%+ of that society is naturally immune, 99% don't even know they caught it, and only 0.04% suffer major effects from it.

The virus was a political tool to remove Trump. Now the vaccination is a political tool for forcing compliance.

Lists, even.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 07, 2021 10:58 AM (nMXLX)

330 293 285 Posted by: Nova local at May 07, 2021 10:52 AM (b1h2x)

You have a lot of trust that they were not injecting placebex, I applaud your innocence.
Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:53 AM (Lzpvj)

Maybe a one-off politician did, but it's unlikely most did. And yes, that was my spouse's 1st thoughts, too, but just too many people have had shots by now, and they include all the elite, for everyone to have placebo-ed.

AKA - there is truly safety in numbers, and the US is at inordinate numbers now (as is Israel, who is having great success thanks to their societal vaccination rates).

Posted by: Nova local at May 07, 2021 10:58 AM (b1h2x)

331 I'll get the vaccine after it's approved by the FDA.

The FDA is supposed to exist for a reason, right?

Posted by: Jay at May 07, 2021 10:58 AM (wwKHQ)

332 If you've already had the COVID you have the best protection you can get.

THIS. I know someone who still has antibodies after a year; her job tests her monthly. When they go away, you have long lasting t-cell immunity.

Also... if you have a Kroger, you can get antibody testing there for $25.

Posted by: Vyx at May 07, 2021 10:58 AM (kFA7a)

333 318 Posted by: Tonypete at May 07, 2021 10:57 AM (Rvt8

I had a good time, it was the 80s and early 90s.

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:58 AM (Lzpvj)

334 I'm hearing more about the mRna stuff causing bizarre menstruation in un-injected women. The injected are shedding something, probably spike proteins.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 07, 2021 10:54 AM (GDQ3B)

Oh, that's interesting. Coworker has been having a lot of problems in the department lately. Do you have any links to that I can show her?

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 07, 2021 10:58 AM (H3XYS)

335 Piss on Big Pharma. Big Government is already sticking it to us, Big Pharma helped (ie. Pfizer holding back its announcement on the vaccine until after the election). I'm not going to simp for companies that look to fuck us over.

Posted by: ejochs at May 07, 2021 10:58 AM (lSFMQ)

336 317 The dems didn't have actual political capital, they had covid, BLM, riots, Russia, impeachments, the media narrative, and Big Tech. Follow that up with rigging an election and it just gives the appearance of political capital.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 07, 2021 10:57 AM (xfb67)

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And they're acting like they have a mandate.

The American people as a whole cannot be taking this well.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:59 AM (LvTSG)

337 The chip shortage is due to a drought in Taiwan last I heard and it affecting everything that uses a processor. Ordered a new computer for my wife over a month ago, no word yet on when they will try to build it.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 07, 2021

It's just not chips. We picked out a recliner mid April and MAY see delivery this October but not a given.

Posted by: Beartooth at May 07, 2021 10:59 AM (Ugos9)

338 I assume all the Covid vaccines will be made in China in the future anyway. Its only fitting that they make the vaccines with or without a patent. After all they probably started this whole thing anyway.

Posted by: Colin at May 07, 2021 10:59 AM (oqdKM)

339 I'm retired so "returning to work" isn't in the cards. That said, I think this is a two edged sword for a lot of people. On the one hand you've got folks who bitched and moaned for years before the China Flu about working from home. Now, they've had a chance to do it and I hear some do not like it. Maybe they don't get along with their spouse, children or dog. Maybe they thought it would be different.

Then there are the insane ones who won't go back to work, in some extreme cases, ever again because they're so mentally broken by all this. And of course the Feds will throw money these retards because they've been so traumatized by it all.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 07, 2021 10:59 AM (3H9h1)

340 Dr. Fauci- "You should wear a mask, and draw a smiling face on it, that looks like you. And then you should make a small mask and put it over the mouth and nose of the face on your mask. Then you should draw a tiny smiling face on the tiny second mask, and put an even tinier mask on that face. If you will repeat this process 100,000 times, you will have a teensy tiny mask with a face the size of a corona virus particle, and you can put a mask on it. That would be cool!"

Posted by: Muldoon at May 07, 2021 10:59 AM (Fc5rx)

341 " The American pharmaceutical companies are not fans of the idea, to say the least."

The fuckers should have voted Trump if they cared about rule of law

Posted by: Jay at May 07, 2021 10:59 AM (wwKHQ)

342 The local schools just advised that anyone attending graduation will either need to be vaccinated, show proof of that vaccination or be tested and show proof for that. Graduation is outdoors, btw. They are blaming NYSDOH "guidelines". But nothing compels the school district to obey them, so it's voluntary. I'm pretty sure some pitchforks and long knives are coming out for this. There seems to be a lot of growing resistance to the vaccine, and this is just another coercion to get kids who don't need the vaccine, vaccinated. There's going to be a very big F You contingent.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 07, 2021 10:59 AM (VpIIl)

343 Manuela, on the Price is Right, is showing significant side boob, and this is good.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin at May 07, 2021 10:59 AM (I58tH)

344 Ordered a new computer for my wife over a month ago, no word yet on when they will try to build it.

Mine took ~6 weeks. They kept letting me know that it was delayed because they were being just so very careful about the covids.

I didn't respond that if not for the parts shortage I've have built the damn thing myself and saved a bundle.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at May 07, 2021 10:59 AM (EjmvJ)

345 And they're acting like they have a mandate.

***

While no supporters show up to see Joe and Karmella in person at local appearances.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 07, 2021 11:00 AM (nMXLX)

346 330 Posted by: Nova local at May 07, 2021 10:58 AM (b1h2x)

I am getting the same protocol the US Military gets, either the machine chose to kill 30+ % of the force or I'll most likely be okay.

In either event I am serene with my choice, if we are to leave the mortal coil I can think of no group I would rather leave with.

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 11:00 AM (Lzpvj)

347 You know, "We're all in this together" can work both ways.

Posted by: creeper at May 07, 2021 11:00 AM (XxJt1)

348 The Dems burned through massive amounts of political, social, and economic capital over the past year, all to get rid of Orangemanbad. Now they're discovering just what the costs, and consequences of those decisions are going to be, and they are terrified.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 07, 2021 10:51 AM (jOcSX)
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I'm not so sure. Elections don't matter, so they can remain in power for the next several cycles. If they are worried about anything, it's unrest or rebellion and I don't see that within the next five years.

Dictatorships - and that is what we have now - don't care about "political capital" in any traditional democratic sense. Dictatorships worry about unrest, rebellion and revolution. (They also do care about balancing their allies and what those allies cost, but that is a different form of political capital and the people don't enter into the equation.)

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 07, 2021 11:00 AM (Jsjd7)

349 The site is back now? I kept getting "The site can't be reached."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 07, 2021 11:01 AM (/XOcP)

350 > So if these big corps are going to require a vaccine, shouldn't they be liable if something happens to the person being forced to take it?

The company's lawyers will argue 'plaintiff agreed to take the vaccine willingly as a condition of employment; he assumed all liability'

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 07, 2021 11:01 AM (iTXRQ)

351 I'll get the vaccine after it's approved by the FDA.

Back in the day of swine flu, that vaccine killed 50 people and it was pulled immediately by the FDA.

We are at something like 3300 COVID injections related deaths according the VAERS, and tens of thousands of adverse reactions, and the FDA is silent.

/it's not about health, it's about killing everyone over 60 to save Social Security and sterilizing the remainder.

Posted by: Vyx at May 07, 2021 11:01 AM (Ve6n5)

352 348 I'm not so sure. Elections don't matter, so they can remain in power for the next several cycles. If they are worried about anything, it's unrest or rebellion and I don't see that within the next five years.

Dictatorships - and that is what we have now - don't care about "political capital" in any traditional democratic sense. Dictatorships worry about unrest, rebellion and revolution. (They also do care about balancing their allies and what those allies cost, but that is a different form of political capital and the people don't enter into the equation.)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 07, 2021 11:00 AM (Jsjd7)

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Border Democrats insisting that there is a crisis on the border tells me that Democrats don't think that voting doesn't matter anymore.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 11:01 AM (LvTSG)

353 They did kill some people a few years ago with poopy organic vegetables. And Moe's is better anyway.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 07, 2021 10:53 AM (bYTQR)

Dave's Taco trailer is better than Chipotle.....

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 07, 2021 11:01 AM (jvt6t)

354 It's just not chips. We picked out a recliner mid April and MAY see delivery this October but not a given.
Posted by: Beartooth at May 07, 2021 10:59 AM (Ugos9)
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La-Z-Boy?

I needed some couches for my new house. Their delivery dates were 4-8 months out. I went to the store to see what I could get sooner. I got the models I wanted, but compromised on color. One of them got a slipcover.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 07, 2021 11:02 AM (Jsjd7)

355 Irish democracy is the only choice.

Not to fuss too much, but there is another way. An American way. It involves active rebellion against tyranny.
The sooner we consider that option, the sooner we regain what our domestic enemies have forcibly taken from us. In reality, it's the only choice our enemies have given us.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 07, 2021 11:02 AM (HaL55)

356 Now they're discovering just what the costs, and consequences of those decisions are going to be, and they are terrified.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 07, 2021 10:51 AM (jOcSX)

They do not appear to be terrified. Yet.

Posted by: clutch at May 07, 2021 11:02 AM (9UmRs)

357 In terms of principle, I find this unfortunate.

In terms of the game that we're actually playing, the exercise of raw power, I find this really satisfying. Big Pharma played games right before the election to weaken Trump, and this is what they're getting from Biden?

Fuck 'em. I shall just laugh.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 10:06 AM (LvTSG)

The ball started rolling when Obarky (Who got a lot of less votes than the VP he felt fucks things up) screwed of GM investors. So big pharma getting (almost) instant karma when Bidet ('s handlers) decide to Pfisthem? Welcome to the facism you guys wanted. Oh you though business working hand and glove with govt would make you immune from govt taking over? Yeah, that shot doesn't work as advertised hoped. Maybe take a second dose?

Posted by: Bete at May 07, 2021 11:02 AM (Ojki1)

358 319 That Venus lady makes me feel funny.
funny weird or funny ha-ha?

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at May 07, 2021 11:02 AM (sGtp+)

359 334

Oh no no no. The very smart people at cnn and msnbc have assured me that is a conspiracy theory.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 07, 2021 11:03 AM (4A0e9)

360 "
I'm hearing more about the mRna stuff causing bizarre menstruation in
un-injected women. The injected are shedding something, probably spike
proteins.
"
Nobody knows the long term effects of the vaccine on various conditions or in concert with various medications. Anybody who says they do is demonstrably a liar. The impact on pregnant women, those taking birth control and other medications is unknown. Also for stroke/heart disease patients and those taking related medications. That's just fact.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 07, 2021 11:03 AM (VpIIl)

361 I think Pfizer has applied for FDA approval.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 07, 2021 11:04 AM (H3XYS)

362 Border Democrats insisting that there is a crisis on the border tells me that Democrats don't think that voting doesn't matter anymore.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 11:01 AM (LvTSG)
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Local elections likely still matter depending on the state. Ditto with state elections.

But President and major offices like probably Senate elections in many states? That shit doesn't matter. They'll steal it. And if they manage to lose (doubtful), they demonstrated under Trump that they'll just do what they want anyway at the Federal level.

Those "border Democrats" might indeed get voted out and lose their lucrative rice bowls (depends on the state), but it won't have any consequence on the power structure.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 07, 2021 11:04 AM (Jsjd7)

363 Well, Biden is speaking now, claims he was getting dressed while listening to commentators discussing the job numbers. Those numbers are announced at 8:30 AM. Nice to know Joe has his nose to grind stone.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at May 07, 2021 11:04 AM (Wm5SB)

364 @jeneps

President Biden says he wants "to put today's jobs report in perspective" after economy created 266,000 jobs in April, well below the 1 million predictions. "Quite frankly, we're moving more rapidly than I thought we would," he says.

Whatta buffoon.

Posted by: Tami at May 07, 2021 11:05 AM (cF8AT)

365 360 Posted by: Marcus T at May 07, 2021 11:03 AM (VpIIl)

I'll help establish whether a person with stabilized SVT Tachycardia can take the vaccine and live.

Given my family's history on the maternal woodpile of cancer and paternally of stroke I will give indications of risk there as well.

If the future is what Disney is selling I am perfectly fine with leaving the party early.

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 11:05 AM (Lzpvj)

366 I'm hearing more about the mRna stuff causing bizarre menstruation in un-injected women. The injected are shedding something, probably spike proteins.

****

Color me skeptical.

I'll probably regret asking, but what's the supposed mechanism of that?

Posted by: Muldoon at May 07, 2021 11:05 AM (Fc5rx)

367 "Well, Biden is speaking now, claims he was getting dressed while
listening to commentators discussing the job numbers. Those numbers are
announced at 8:30 AM. "
Second biggest job miss in the history of our country. Did Dementia Shit Pants mention that?

Posted by: Marcus T at May 07, 2021 11:05 AM (VpIIl)

368 So, is anyone going to challenge the legality of companies forcing you to get a shot? What if you're Christian Science? Can they force you to get an abortion if you're needed at a big conference on your due date? It all feels illegal.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 07, 2021 11:05 AM (7Fj9P)

369 I'm telling people I'm part of the control group for the vaccines. As such I may not get the vaccine or wear a mask.

I'm doing my part because I love Science!

So FAR I have not had a single other Lover of Science ask me how I know I am in "the control group".

Posted by: Just Lily. Thread-Winner Elect at May 07, 2021 11:05 AM (ATwT1)

370 Border Democrats insisting that there is a crisis on the border tells me that Democrats don't think that voting doesn't matter anymore.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 07, 2021 11:01 AM (LvTSG)
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The border democrats making a stink are democrats who live in states where they know they can lose.

CA democrats aren't saying a thing. I'm pretty sure NM democrats don't care, either.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at May 07, 2021 11:05 AM (2SdPm)

371 What Marcus said_

between my blood pressure and kidneys and cholesterol management and depression, I take a galaxy of meds daily. I'm not throwing this vaccine into the mix

I'm fucked up enough already

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 07, 2021 11:05 AM (iTXRQ)

372 Biden fucking the chicken in overdrive on the tube

Posted by: Only Context at May 07, 2021 11:06 AM (VXbIB)

373 Then there are the insane ones who won't go back to work, in some extreme cases, ever again because they're so mentally broken by all this.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 07, 2021 10:59 AM (3H9h1)

I was initially going to skoff @ this...then I remembered seeing a lady driving her car...alone...wearing a mask.

Posted by: BignJames at May 07, 2021 11:06 AM (AwYPR)

374 I had a friend ask about dangers from vaccinated people shedding the virus. Still trying to learn more but this might be helpful: https://tinyurl.com/fncj8z5z

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at May 07, 2021 11:06 AM (YynYJ)

375 Joe Mannix,

We don't have the classic dictatorship, what we have is essentially an oligarchy where several different power centers want different things. The rich oligarchs want to stay rich, the identity groups want money and power, the big biz wants profits, and so on. The incoherent governing policies that we see is hashed out inefficiently by committee. The Argentinian or Greek military dictatorships ran similarly by committee and despite their authoritarianism, failed to produce a stable and effective governing structure. A modest autocracy can last if the members restrain their appetites and work for the public good. This is not that.

Posted by: whig at May 07, 2021 11:06 AM (pO7gM)

376 President Biden says he wants "to put today's jobs report in perspective" after economy created 266,000 jobs in April, well below the 1 million predictions. "Quite frankly, we're moving more rapidly than I thought we would," he says.

Whatta buffoon.
Posted by: Tami

Joseph Goebbels' brown shirt just turned green with envy.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 07, 2021 11:07 AM (VVEnO)

377 The Dems burned through massive amounts of political, social, and economic capital over the past year, all to get rid of Orangemanbad. Now they're discovering just what the costs, and consequences of those decisions are going to be, and they are terrified.

***

(checks to see if every medical decision in the United States is still based on Obamacare that is still in place )

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 07, 2021 11:07 AM (nMXLX)

378 The FDA is supposed to exist for a reason, right?

Yup. The boot on your face will have a blue cover on it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 07, 2021 11:07 AM (HaL55)

379 Hey, Jordan61,

I'd start with lifesitenews "thousands-of-women-report-hemorrhaging"

A nurse friend has confirmed the phenomenon.

Connecting the dots, CV19 mRna hit women hard from menstruation through pregnancy to breast feeding.

There's no way that's accidental.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 07, 2021 11:07 AM (GDQ3B)

380 I came to terms about the age of 25, and never woke up a day after that caring if it was the last one. Then, V came along, and I have to give a shit again. It's a yuuuuge adjustment for me.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 07, 2021 11:07 AM (Uh2oA)

381 Well, Biden is speaking now, claims he was getting dressed while
listening to commentators discussing the job numbers. Those numbers are
announced at 8:30 AM. "

Does Fungus Brain's suit have snaps up the back?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 07, 2021 11:07 AM (cSyAR)

382 Nobody knows the long term effects of the vaccine on various conditions or in concert with various medications. Anybody who says they do is demonstrably a liar. The impact on pregnant women, those taking birth control and other medications is unknown. Also for stroke/heart disease patients and those taking related medications. That's just fact.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 07, 2021 11:03 AM (VpIIl)

Most vaccines long term effects usually show within the 1st 6 months.

And no one knows the long term effects of getting Covid. Now that it's a known gain of function virus, is it's only gain of function transmittability, or does it also have (as one example of thousands) a gain of function that allows it to exist (either in hiding or openly in the body) and to continue to attack the body periodically over the years, ala herpes simplex? Maybe the Chinese will tell us one day what they did to a simple corona virus. I'll probably be 503 when that happen.

Again, it's who do you trust? I agree it's hard to trust our science, but it's harder to trust the Chinese...and I do trust Israeli results.

Posted by: Nova local at May 07, 2021 11:08 AM (b1h2x)

383 President Biden says he wants "to put today's jobs report in perspective" after economy created 266,000 jobs in April, well below the 1 million predictions. "Quite frankly, we're moving more rapidly than I thought we would," he says.

***

I haven't looked, but it would be fantastic if Trump's worst numbers were better than this.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 07, 2021 11:08 AM (nMXLX)

384 I was initially going to skoff @ this...then I remembered seeing a lady driving her car...alone...wearing a mask.
Posted by: BignJames at May 07, 2021 11:06 AM (AwYPR)
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Where I live in CA, it's unusual to see people driving around wearing a mask. 2 hours west of here, it's unusual to see people driving around without a mask.

It's freaking bizarre.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at May 07, 2021 11:08 AM (2SdPm)

385 Zero-trust is the end of the road for civilizations.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 07, 2021 10:39 AM (z79tQ)

What irks me is the shocked ingenue act by those who've destroyed the high trust society by their own deliberate acts. The list of society-wrecking pigsnouts would probably number in the hundreds: colleges, police departments, FBI, churches, judges, big pharma, the military, every "expert" on every subject under the sun. They've ALL lied brazenly and insouciantly to get their way at every opportunity.

Yet they are shocked and outraged when the people no longer hand them the trust and respect they used to enjoy. They're ENTITLED to it, dammit! We OWE them! Treating them justly, because of their moral turpitude, is considered INjustice.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at May 07, 2021 11:08 AM (9o5Hv)

386 362

Yep. The Dems cant steal everything. And they will allow free elections for state or county positions. I mean does the junta in DC give a fuck who is county commissioner in flyover country? But for the big stuff, 2020 proved they will never lose an election again.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 07, 2021 11:08 AM (4A0e9)

387 La-Z-Boy?

I needed some couches for my new house. Their delivery dates were 4-8 months out. I went to the store to see what I could get sooner. I got the models I wanted, but compromised on color. One of them got a slipcover.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not

Yes. Lay-Z-Boy. It's a nothing special recliner. No electronics or wall hugger, just not in a color that will look good in the room it will be used.

Posted by: Beartooth at May 07, 2021 11:08 AM (Ugos9)

388 380 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 07, 2021 11:07 AM (Uh2oA)

I started making my peace with it at 11, growing up as I did near a SAC base forced me to understand implicitly the preciousness of life is in its random fragility.

The educrats expected this acceptance would make me a democrat it made me a Reagan Republican.

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 11:09 AM (Lzpvj)

389 President Biden says he wants "to put today's jobs report in perspective" after economy created 266,000 jobs in April, well below the 1 million predictions. "Quite frankly, we're moving more rapidly than I thought we would," he says.

Whatta buffoon.
Posted by: Tami at May 07, 2021 11:05 AM

He's telling the truth. However, the direction we are moving is not the direction any sane person wants.

Posted by: Chuck C at May 07, 2021 11:09 AM (awtm/)

390 364 @jeneps

President Biden says he wants "to put today's jobs report in perspective" after economy created 266,000 jobs in April, well below the 1 million predictions. "Quite frankly, we're moving more rapidly than I thought we would," he says.

Whatta buffoon.
Posted by: Tami at May 07, 2021 11:05 AM (cF8AT)

*Prepares to take the stage*

Posted by: "Unexpectedly" at May 07, 2021 11:09 AM (Ojki1)

391 And no one knows the long-term effect of getting the vaccine AND getting COVIDs.

Because apparently the vaccine doesn't do jack to stop you from getting it and transmitting it.

So now you can have both.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 07, 2021 11:09 AM (nMXLX)

392 380 I came to terms about the age of 25, and never woke up a day after that caring if it was the last one. Then, V came along, and I have to give a shit again. It's a yuuuuge adjustment for me.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 07, 2021 11:07 AM (Uh2oA)

How is your daughter?

Posted by: CN at May 07, 2021 11:09 AM (ONvIw)

393 Hope Ace posts about The Rick-engineered hit on Gov DeSantis. Those "former staffers" were very probably Rick Scott hold-overs; the same folks that thought their next GOPe gravy train, Adam Putnam, was going to be Gov, until RD, surprisingly, won the R nomination.

Posted by: EveR at May 07, 2021 11:10 AM (ZZDMQ)

394 Along the lines of "mentally broken by the 'rona," that video of the lady in the rolling box yesterday is still making me laugh.

And you know people laugh, point and stare at that nutjob wherever she goes, and she still does it anyway. Her cheese done slid all the way off the cracker.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 07, 2021 11:10 AM (Uh2oA)

395 >So, is anyone going to challenge the legality of companies forcing you to get a shot?

when you say 'force', do you mean they tackle you in the lunch room, pin you to the floor and inject you?

cuz if you mean 'force' as in they make it a 'condition of employment', the lawyers will say you have a choice

it sucks, but that's life in 'america' circa 2021

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 07, 2021 11:10 AM (iTXRQ)

396 Posted by: callsign claymore at May 07, 2021 11:07 AM (GDQ3B)

Thank you!

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 07, 2021 11:10 AM (Ez6QX)

397 President Biden says he wants "to put today's jobs report in perspective" after economy created 266,000 jobs in April, well below the 1 million predictions. "Quite frankly, we're moving more rapidly than I thought we would," he says.

Whatta buffoon.
Posted by: Tami at May 07, 2021 11:05 AM

But monorail!!

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 07, 2021 11:10 AM (jvt6t)

398
COVID Porn Science. It's where the grant $$$ are!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 07, 2021 11:10 AM (pNxlR)

399 I have "undocumented" immunity

Posted by: Jay at May 07, 2021 11:10 AM (wwKHQ)

400 I'll get the vaccine after it's approved by the FDA

***

That.

That right there.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 07, 2021 11:10 AM (nMXLX)

401 President Biden says he wants "to put today's jobs report in perspective" after economy created 266,000 jobs in April, well below the 1 million predictions. "Quite frankly, we're moving more rapidly than I thought we would," he says.

Whatta buffoon.
Posted by: Tami at May 07, 2021 11:05 AM (cF8AT)
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Old hotness: Saved or created.
New hotness: Doing better than Biden expected.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at May 07, 2021 11:10 AM (2SdPm)

402 Old and busted: "Fake News"

New hotness: "Loose Talk"

Posted by: MichiCanuck at May 07, 2021 11:10 AM (bkXu0)

403 Space Force, next DNA Police but whose side are they on?

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 07, 2021 11:11 AM (o89XP)

404 laser focus

Posted by: micky at May 07, 2021 11:11 AM (3byMq)

405 Big Joey wants to screw Big Pharma.
Well, that's what happens when one gets in bed with Big Joey.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 07, 2021 11:11 AM (g34rg)

406 376 President Biden says he wants "to put today's jobs report in perspective" after economy created 266,000 jobs in April, well below the 1 million predictions. "Quite frankly, we're moving more rapidly than I thought we would," he says.

Whatta buffoon.
Posted by: Tami

Joseph Goebbels' brown shirt just turned green with envy.

Yeah the amazing shit you can say with all media running interference for you

I still can't get over that the so called pres is quite obviously senile

Posted by: havelhavolim at May 07, 2021 11:11 AM (fLpTX)

407 The same people telling me the jabs are safe were telling me the "Trump Vaccine" was a menace to humanity and the Russian Jab, which is based on stolen American tech, is a danger.

Oh, and two years ago they were telling me vaccines caused autism and GMOs were a threat to humanity.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 07, 2021 11:11 AM (DpkTQ)

408 285 Why folks with low risk are getting the jab?
The vax has even lower risk of harm than the virus
Posted by: Nova local

This is only true for older age groups.

As you get younger the vaccine approaches the risk of covid, until its double the mortality risk for under 18 year olds

As a 55 year old fattie i got the vaccine. I would never recommend it for someone below 40. In fact I think its criminal to give it to someone under 30.

Posted by: Loki, looking to water the Tree of Liberty at May 07, 2021 11:11 AM (KqiMr)

409 405 Big Joey wants to screw Big Pharma.
Well, that's what happens when one gets in bed with Big Joey.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 07, 2021 11:11 AM (g34rg)

They deserve it, now do Big Tech

Posted by: CN at May 07, 2021 11:11 AM (ONvIw)

410 This'll be the summer of double recovery!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 07, 2021 11:11 AM (VVEnO)

411 I think the point is every person needs to individually weigh the risk. If you have certain conditions or take medications, you have to see if being the guinea pig is worth it. Nobody wants COVID, but the fact is its very survivable for a lot of people. Treatments have made it even more so. So the question becomes in an environment where lethality is declining, therapeutics are improving and the virus will recede just like past SARS- is it worth it to you personally. I think the answer to that from most who have not been vaccinated is- no, it's not. Nothing is going to compel those people into getting the vaccine, and when the lawsuits start, and trial lawyers see big payouts for companies and states trying to compel people into compliance, it's going to stop.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 07, 2021 11:11 AM (VpIIl)

412 You know how I know it's almost over...I went to the doctors office today and they no longer had someone at the door taking temps and screening before you walked in the door. They also no longer had the spots where you could drive up and get covid tests and vaccines in your car. you now have to go in, wait in line, check in and then wait...just like normal.

Posted by: lin-duh 27-4 at May 07, 2021 11:11 AM (UUBmN)

413 Hey Muldoon,

Nobody knows, as it's a new phenomenon. The only folks talking about it are some independent media and chat rooms for holistic Catholic moms -- the grapevine.

Mechanism is probably shed spike proteins.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 07, 2021 11:12 AM (GDQ3B)

414 So the media is going to get back to the routine of announcing unexpectedly high unemployment numbers.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 07, 2021 11:12 AM (cSyAR)

415 The vax has even lower risk of harm than the virus...and getting the vax can only be a help, not a hurt, for society.

Posted by: Nova local at May 07, 2021 10:52 AM (b1h2x)
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You used the word "only", but it doesn't sound like you understand it. If it can "only be a help" then the risk is 0.

Btw, I'm not afraid of either getting the jab or not getting it. I'm just damn sure that nobody's going to lie to me while forcing compliance on me.

If I can still "pass Covid" after "immunization", one of these words (like "only") doesn't fit.

Posted by: Axeman at May 07, 2021 11:12 AM (cI7Oj)

416
How is your daughter?
Posted by: CN at May 07, 2021 11:09 AM (ONvIw)

Kicking the stuffing out of it. She's about four months behind developmentally, but the doctors say that's not unexpected given her lengthy hospitalizations last year. We're working on that stuff, and making progress, though. And most importantly, she's happy as a clam. Except for the TEETH. She hates her new teeth.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 07, 2021 11:12 AM (Uh2oA)

417 Oh, and two years ago they were telling me vaccines caused autism and GMOs were a threat to humanity.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 07, 2021 11:11 AM (DpkTQ)

RFK Jr is still claiming that, and hates Gates.

Posted by: CN at May 07, 2021 11:12 AM (ONvIw)

418 Last summer the economy was creating millions of jobs a month. Literally millions. The MSM said yeah whatevs. But 266k is awesome and shows how Biden has saved America.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 07, 2021 11:12 AM (4A0e9)

419 Again, it's who do you trust? I agree it's hard to trust our science, but it's harder to trust the Chinese.

Just for fun, search "covid vaccine spike protein china."

Posted by: Vyx at May 07, 2021 11:13 AM (rEgFA)

420 Kicking the stuffing out of it. She's about four months behind developmentally, but the doctors say that's not unexpected given her lengthy hospitalizations last year. We're working on that stuff, and making progress, though. And most importantly, she's happy as a clam. Except for the TEETH. She hates her new teeth.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 07, 2021 11:12 AM (Uh2oA)

I am happy for you all!

Posted by: CN at May 07, 2021 11:13 AM (ONvIw)

421

USA Today - It's time to start shunning the 'vaccine hesitant.' They're blocking COVID herd immunity.

https://tinyurl.com/z7xc4dsp

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 07, 2021 11:13 AM (63Dwl)

422 anybody not see this: https://www.city-journal.org/
bidens-war-on-merit-puts-americas-scientific-edge-at-risk

Posted by: havelhavolim at May 07, 2021 11:13 AM (fLpTX)

423 This'll be the summer of double secret recovery!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 07, 2021 11:11 AM

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 07, 2021 11:13 AM (m+jkK)

424 399 I have "undocumented" immunity
oh? you've taken the organic free-range vaccine, have you?

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at May 07, 2021 11:13 AM (v3pYe)

425 Someone is going to have to have the courage to ask why we did not take "all necessary steps" with HIV.

That person will be destroyed, so will the 50,000th.
Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 10:23 AM (Lzpvj)

Unasked question: who is the point of intersection between HIV/AIDS and the Wuhan flu?

Posted by: Andreas Venizelos. at May 07, 2021 11:13 AM (vXVSV)

426 Yeah, it's bizarre watching the same people who insist that organic vegetables are awesome and GMO foods are evil demand that people take a shot to f*ck with their RNA.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 07, 2021 11:13 AM (nMXLX)

427 So for those of us that remember the Obama years, what's the likelihood that even these job figures will be quietly "revised downward" in a week or two?

Posted by: Axeman at May 07, 2021 11:14 AM (cI7Oj)

428 If you're already employed how can they make getting vaccinated a condition of employment. Isn't that breach of contract?

Posted by: creeper at May 07, 2021 11:14 AM (XxJt1)

429 Kicking the stuffing out of it. She's about four months behind developmentally, but the doctors say that's not unexpected given her lengthy hospitalizations last year. We're working on that stuff, and making progress, though. And most importantly, she's happy as a clam. Except for the TEETH. She hates her new teeth.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 07, 2021 11:12 AM (Uh2oA)
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Just wait, she'll make you hate her new teeth too.

*memories of kids teething and discovering how to bite dad*

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at May 07, 2021 11:14 AM (2SdPm)

430 Working from home will be the new office space. A lot of people in my company don't want to go back to the office--ever. Not because they're afraid of the virus, but because they love working at home. My employer was skeptical that we could be as productive at home, but he's been pleasantly surprised.

Posted by: Mike at May 07, 2021 11:14 AM (kxfaA)

431 A classic dictatorship (or really despotism) has a clearly defined leader who becomes the focal point of all governing actions. If the leader is competent and restrained in appetites, then the system can rock on. The first move than most dictators make if competent is to render political opposition defunct by eliminating potential rivals for power. To do that without a civil war, the dictator more or less has to side with the popular interest as the many outnumber the few. There is a reason that Stalin's terror was initially aimed at his own party members, then the secret police, dissidents, and then the military.

We don't have that here yet. What we have is a scrambled group of oligarchs that unified in getting rid of Trump but are unable to produce an effective unified vision of the future as government by committee generally fails to do.

Posted by: whig at May 07, 2021 11:14 AM (pO7gM)

432 Old hotness: Saved or created.

New hotness: Doing better than Biden expected.
There is comedy gold on this site. I hope I contribute a little.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 07, 2021 11:14 AM (pw+jk)

433 To jog your memory, in the Trump years job figures usually had to be "revised up".

Posted by: Axeman at May 07, 2021 11:14 AM (cI7Oj)

434 USA Today - It's time to start shunning the 'vaccine hesitant.' They're blocking COVID herd immunity.

***

I'm old enough to remember actual science and what herd immunity actually means.

Hint: We pretty much had it back in November 2019.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 07, 2021 11:15 AM (nMXLX)

435 425 Posted by: Andreas Venizelos. at May 07, 2021 11:13 AM (vXVSV)

The answer is "muh morality pets."

Posted by: sven at May 07, 2021 11:15 AM (Lzpvj)

436 The drive through testing sites in my area are empty. There is one right by my work place. A couple of nurses and NG sit there all day for a handful of cars.

Posted by: Quirky Bookworm at May 07, 2021 11:15 AM (EbJ6H)

437 We don't have the classic dictatorship, what we have is essentially an oligarchy where several different power centers want different things. The rich oligarchs want to stay rich, the identity groups want money and power, the big biz wants profits, and so on. The incoherent governing policies that we see is hashed out inefficiently by committee. The Argentinian or Greek military dictatorships ran similarly by committee and despite their authoritarianism, failed to produce a stable and effective governing structure. A modest autocracy can last if the members restrain their appetites and work for the public good. This is not that.
Posted by: whig at May 07, 2021 11:06 AM (pO7gM)
++++
Absolutely. It's dictatorship of a politburo rather than a strongman. And they're more interested in eating the seed grain than in the future.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 07, 2021 11:15 AM (Jsjd7)

438 419 Just for fun, search "covid vaccine spike protein china."
i saw spike and the proteins open for apocalypse x at the 3com arena back in the '90s. the best part of the show as the altavista blimp.

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at May 07, 2021 11:15 AM (sGtp+)

439 Challenge the legality of forced vaccines? Lol. You think John Roberts and his merry band of deep state cunts will rule in your favor?

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 07, 2021 11:15 AM (4A0e9)

440 Ace is NOOD

Posted by: CN at May 07, 2021 11:15 AM (ONvIw)

441 The second largest job miss in history is largely because people are getting paid to sit on their ass. Also, the economy is artificially inflated due to all the helicopter money Democrats are throwing at people. Productivity is down and there are some other troubling signs in the numbers. This is just the beginning. It's also why Democrats want to throw more government money at the problem, the music is going to stop soon.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 07, 2021 11:15 AM (VpIIl)

442 389 President Biden says he wants "to put today's jobs report in perspective" after economy created 266,000 jobs in April, well below the 1 million predictions. "Quite frankly, we're moving more rapidly than I thought we would," he says.
...
Posted by: Tami at Ma
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News, yesterday, said the market was up because of the super jobs report.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 07, 2021 11:16 AM (g34rg)

443 The drive through testing sites in my area are empty. There is one right by my work place. A couple of nurses and NG sit there all day for a handful of cars.

***

It's neat how people can't figure out why our numbers were so high.

If you have to TELL someone they're sick...

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming at May 07, 2021 11:16 AM (nMXLX)

444 Not ony were April's number 75% off but March's UE numbers were revised down.
It feels comfy being back in Obozo's inept running of the economy.... but at least no mean tweets. So we got that going for us. Which is niiiiiice.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 07, 2021 11:16 AM (pw+jk)

445 anybody not see this: https://www.city-journal.org/
bidens-war-on-merit-puts-americas-scientific-edge-at-risk

Posted by: havelhavolim at May 07, 2021 11:13 AM (fLpTX)
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I hope Xi appreciates this.

Posted by: Axeman at May 07, 2021 11:17 AM (cI7Oj)

446 The drive through testing sites in my area are empty. There is one right by my work place. A couple of nurses and NG sit there all day for a handful of cars.
Posted by: Quirky Bookworm at May 07, 2021 11:15 AM (EbJ6H)

And meanwhile, I can't go to the doctor on base any more because they are diverting all resources to vaccination efforts.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 07, 2021 11:17 AM (H3XYS)

447 If I can still "pass Covid" after "immunization", one of these words (like "only") doesn't fit.
Posted by: Axeman at May 07, 2021 11:12 AM (cI7Oj)

The current data on that says it's spectacularly unlikely, especially if you are not elderly or immuno-compromised. The CDC may not be highlighting current data, which is a problem for them.

In fact, lying for political gain has been a problem. We can be mad about that. Unlike the other party, we tend to get past emotion and dig in and see what works best for society. My spouse was and is still mad about how everything has gone down since last March...and is still going down. But he can separate anger at the system vs still doing what helps society and his family (being me and the kids).

Posted by: Nova local at May 07, 2021 11:17 AM (b1h2x)

448 We want to create an environment where you feel comfortable and it s like it used to be at the office he said in a Bloomberg Television interview April 28. We can only do that if everybody s vaccinated.
===
B. S. you aren t immune and you can still spread after vacc and you still have to wear a mask.

This isn't a news story, its a marketing spot. The business gets a free commericial and the deep state gets its propaganda.

Posted by: its an op, m'kay, ops are bad, m'kay at May 07, 2021 11:18 AM (uP+d3)

449 Again, it's who do you trust?
Traditionally vaccines are around for years before we jab a majority of the population for them.

The last time we rushed like this, with the polio vaccines, mistakes were made - in one incident they game 40K people polio by accident (oops!)

Posted by: 18-1 at May 07, 2021 11:18 AM (DpkTQ)

450 Yeah, it's bizarre watching the same people who insist that organic vegetables are awesome and GMO foods are evil demand that people take a shot to f*ck with their RNA.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Important article about what's coming

True. Same for data, their's is dirty. While watching CNN on Tvvvv they are plugged in like the matrix.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 07, 2021 11:18 AM (o89XP)

451 @bigleaguepol

Missouri House of Representatives Approves 'Rush Limbaugh Day' to Honor Conservative Talk Radio Icon

https://tinyurl.com/yhnblbyo

Posted by: Tami at May 07, 2021 11:18 AM (cF8AT)

452 What irks me is the shocked ingenue act by those who've destroyed the high trust society by their own deliberate acts. The list of society-wrecking pigsnouts would probably number in the hundreds: colleges, police departments, FBI, churches, judges, big pharma, the military, every "expert" on every subject under the sun. They've ALL lied brazenly and insouciantly to get their way at every opportunity.

Yet they are shocked and outraged when the people no longer hand them the trust and respect they used to enjoy. They're ENTITLED to it, dammit! We OWE them! Treating them justly, because of their moral turpitude, is considered INjustice.
Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at May 07, 2021 11:08 AM (9o5Hv)

Well said.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 07, 2021 11:19 AM (z79tQ)

453 Border Democrats insisting that there is a crisis on the border tells me that Democrats don't think that voting doesn't matter anymore.
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Yeah, that is a tell.

I think voting in 2022 is going to matter a great deal. There are a few seats that will be outright stolen using the same techniques, like Toomey's seat in PA. But there are a lot of house seats that are held by Dems that can't be stolen by votes in Philly.

It's early, but my gut tells me that the GOP will take the House, despite their ineptitude.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at May 07, 2021 11:19 AM (5p7BC)

454 Can any of the "Legal Eagles" here recommend a Law Firm that could take this to the Highest Court in the Land? I can not be forced to take an "Experimental Vaccine" to maintain my employment, right?

Posted by: Paladin at May 07, 2021 11:19 AM (+Ivv+)

455 The "patent waivers" is an excellent idea if you want to give China another free pass to steal from the West. And rotsa ruck getting fast development of a vaccine the next time there's a virus leak from the Chinese army labs.

P.S. Say what you will about Big Pharma, but I have an adult child who is alive today thanks to the development of miracle medicine by Big Pharma....

Posted by: pikkumatti at May 07, 2021 11:22 AM (vjH93)

456 Hope Ace posts about The Rick-engineered hit on Gov DeSantis. Those "former staffers" were very probably Rick Scott hold-overs; the same folks that thought their next GOPe gravy train, Adam Putnam, was going to be Gov, until RD, surprisingly, won the R nomination.
Posted by: EveR at May 07, 2021 11:10 AM (ZZDMQ)

Rick Scott, the fake Tea Party guy who caved to the race baiters for Saint Traytable? That Rick Scott? Definitely a Vote Harder dreamboat.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at May 07, 2021 11:23 AM (y7DUB)

457 437 Joe, we don't even have a Politburo as there was by that time a regular procedure in the Sov Union with Krushchev, Brezhnev, Andropov, Chernenko, and then Gorbachev as first among equals.

Ours is a jury rigged oligarchy more like the drift under the new Russian Republic where an alcoholic deteriorating president was unable to effectively govern because the other power centers did not agree on what was to be done--the military, revised secret police, and the financial looting oligarchs. Biden is effectively a figurehead as is his sidekick so the real struggle is behind the scenes between relatively faceless and bungling bureaucrats, identity activists, and the biz oligarchs.

Not stable in the least but most likely each group has a large component that fears what will happen if their secrets are revealed--sexual and financial corruption, treachery with China, stealing elections, etc.

Posted by: whig at May 07, 2021 11:24 AM (pO7gM)

458 Law Firm

Middle of a mafia war, better hurry before bigger chunks of the facade of balance in law fall off.

Everything on sale. Everything must go.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 07, 2021 11:24 AM (o89XP)

459 Can any of the "Legal Eagles" here recommend a Law Firm that could take this to the Highest Court in the Land? I can not be forced to take an "Experimental Vaccine" to maintain my employment, right?
Posted by: Paladin at May 07, 2021 11:19 AM (+Ivv+)

Haven't watched this yet but see if it's helpful...

@PoliceOnGuard

Please watch Constitutional Lawyer, Rocco Galati's video on your rights against mandatory medical procedures. He covers treatment without expressed informed consent in the context of Covid: Vaccines, Testing, & Masking.

https://tinyurl.com/ydv8l9yp

Posted by: Tami at May 07, 2021 11:26 AM (cF8AT)

460 454 Paladin, employment law is a hodge podge of local, state, and federal regulations. Find a good employment law firm in your state is my best advice. Martindale Hubbel used to be the gold standard to look up lawyers and did have ratings on them. Think it is online now.

Posted by: whig at May 07, 2021 11:26 AM (pO7gM)

461 The FDA better approve the vaccine if they are going to force it on a person. How can you force people to take an experimental vaccine in America??? Oh, right...

Posted by: lin-duh 27-4 at May 07, 2021 11:38 AM (UUBmN)

462 The FDA better approve the vaccine if they are going to force it on a person. How can you force people to take an experimental vaccine in America??? Oh, right...
Posted by: lin-duh 27-4

Misspelled North American Continent.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 07, 2021 11:42 AM (o89XP)

463 Even after a nap still don't feel like going in to work a four shift ...

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 07, 2021 11:49 AM (8zaaV)

464 Oddbob, Diogenes (lol), thanks I'll try to fix the java script thing.

Posted by: pj at May 07, 2021 11:51 AM (G1dq6)

465 Did Big Pharma support Grampa Stinkfinger? My Give-A-Fuck meter is pegged low.

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