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Sunday Overnight Open Thread - December 14, 2025 [Doof]
Howdy Hordelings! Welcome to the Sunday night ONT. Cold and snowy in my neck of the woods today. How about yours? How's the holiday season coming along for you? What's on your mind tonight? Check out the content, then jump on in to the gray boxes.
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Army Navy Game Yesterday
President Trump was there and received a very warm welcome
"I'm Big Joe. 58. Long-haul trucker.
Been driving 18-wheelers for 34 years. Sleep in my cab. Eat at truck stops. Talk on CB radio to stay awake.
Lonely job. But someone's gotta move America's stuff.
Two years ago, I'm driving through Nebraska. 2 a.m. See a car pulled over. Hazards on.
Woman standing outside. Looking scared.
I pulled over. She backed away when she saw me. I'm 6'4", 280 pounds, covered in tattoos. I get it.
"Ma'am, I'm not stopping to hurt you. I'm stopping to help. What's wrong?"
Her car died. Phone dead. She'd been there three hours. Nobody stopped.
"Where you headed?"
"Hospital. Omaha. My daughter's in emergency surgery. I have to get there."
No hesitation. "Get in. I'll take you."
"In your truck?"
"Safest vehicle on this highway."
She hesitated. Then got in.
***
Started a code. "Code Angel" we call it. When truckers see someone broken down, stranded, in trouble, we stop. We help.
Word spread. Truckers across the country joined.
Last year, we helped 1,200 people. Dead batteries. Out of gas. Medical emergencies. Domestic violence victims escaping. Runaways needing safe transport to shelters.
We've got a network now. Truckers, CB radio, truck stops. Someone needs help? We mobilize.
***
So tomorrow, if you break down, if you're stranded, if you're running from something bad,
Look for the trucks. We're watching. We're listening.
We might look rough. But we'll get you home.
Because the highway doesn't have to be lonely.
Not when 4,000 truckers refuse to drive past people in trouble."
Bravo, Big Joe - and all of you other truckers out there. Please check out the whole thing and share this story.
Last quarter I rolled out Microsoft Copilot to 4,000 employees.
$30 per seat per month.
$1.4 million annually.
I called it "digital transformation."
The board loved that phrase.
They approved it in eleven minutes.
No one asked what it would actually do.
Including me.
I told everyone it would "10x productivity."
That's not a real number.
But it sounds like one.
HR asked how we'd measure the 10x.
I said we'd "leverage analytics dashboards."
They stopped asking.
***
The CFO asked about ROI.
I showed him a graph.
The graph went up and to the right.
It measured "AI enablement."
I made that metric up.
He nodded approvingly.
We're "AI-enabled" now.
I don't know what that means.
But it's in our investor deck.
***
Adoption means mandatory training.
Training means a 45-minute webinar no one watches.
But completion will be tracked.
Completion is a metric.
Metrics go in dashboards.
Dashboards go in board presentations.
Board presentations get me promoted.
I'll be SVP by Q3.
I still don't know what Copilot does.
But I know what it's for.
It's for showing we're "investing in AI."
AI adoption is the latest way to virtue signal. By asshoes.
'Ette Couture (Courtesy of Piper)
It's that time of the week - when we turn the ONT over to our good friend Piper for a bit. Here's this week's fashion pr0n.
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Ho Ho Holy Mother of Pearl, Look at These Sweaters
Last night was the Ace of Spades HQ Club ONT Christmas party, and your faithful friend here sacrificed her retinas for you. All for you. The theme this year was apparently "You will have colored lights and you will like it!” And oh boy, they were everywhere. I arrived, as would be expected, in unimpeachable couture while surrounded by... whatever the opposite of that is.
Let us begin.
• AOP: He arrived wearing what he described as "my dress sweater" which featured Santa Claus riding a unicorn while shooting guns made of candy canes. The unicorn had googly eyes. Actual googly eyes that moved when he walked.
• Bezerker: Wore a 3D felt Christmas tree sweater with battery-powered fairy lights that pulsed like a seizure in fabric form. He kept yelling “I’m a tree, hug me!” while sequins rained off him like dandruff from a disco ball. One of the bulbs shorted out mid-evening and started smoking.
• CBD: A hand-knitted abomination that appeared to be Santa Claus wrestling Krampus while riding a flamingo. The flamingo had LED eyes that changed color every time someone said the word “eggnog.” By 10 p.m. the flamingo was strobing demonic red and CBD was yelling into the cheese tray he doesn’t even celebrate Christmas.
• Doof: A sweater with red and green stripes that somehow managed to clash with each other, paired with a light-up Rudolph nose that blinked in Morse code (I believe it was spelling out "RUSH"). He claimed it was vintage. I countered that "vintage" is not a synonym for "crime against humanity."
• J.J. Sefton: Showed up in a sweater that was 50% menorah, 50% Christmas tree, 100% war crime. It lit up to spell “OY TO THE WORLD” in alternating Hebrew and English. He claimed it was “inclusive.”
• Scampydog: I am honestly traumatized. I hope you never get the pine tree sap out of…I just can’t.
• Perfessor Squirrel: A sweater depicting cats in Santa hats playing poker, their little 3D paws were posed holding tiny felt cards with pantless ladies on them. He kept insisting it was “kitsch”. I needed three more champagnes.
• Buck Throckmorton: Wore a sweater that simply said “NAUGHTY” in glitter script across the chest, except half the glitter had fallen off so it read “AUG T”. He spent the entire night telling people it was performance art about the price of metals.
• T-Rex: A bright red sweater depicting a T-Rex trying to wrap presents. “It’s ironic”, he explained.
• Tonypete: A tasteful black turtleneck… underneath a light-up sweater vest of snowmen doing unspeakable things to each other with candy canes. When confronted, he just said “HEYoooooo”.
• MisHum: A sweater with a giant QR code on the front. When you scanned it, it rickrolled you to Frank Zappa’s Merry Christmas album.
• Nurse R: Arrived in a sweater that looked perfectly normal from the front (classic Fair Isle). From the back: a full-sized embroidered Nicolas Cage as Santa screaming “MERRY CHRISTMAS, YOU FILTHY ANIMALS.”
• JQ: A sweater covered in tiny multi color sequined felt hats. She looked like she had been attacked by a Bedazzler-wielding toddler who had recently discovered caffeine.
• Ace: A fractal reindeer sweater. Reindeer wearing sweater wearing reindeer wearing sweater, ad infinitum. He paired it with corduroy pants the color of despair and announced, “This is my formal holiday look.” I have never respected and feared a man more.
The pièce de résistance of the entire evening was when someone (I refuse to name names but his initials are Tankdemon) started an ugly sweater contest late. The voting was done by applause. There was a three-way tie for first place because everyone was too drunk to count properly. Democracy is dead.
Merry Christmas, you magnificent degenerates. Never change. Except your sweaters. Dear heavens, please change your sweaters.
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Thanks, Piper! Great time at the party last night. Special thanks to Club regular and bartender JQ for these lights she found for each of the 3 D's.
Many thanks to my fellow Club ONT hosts Dino and Doggo for their efforts with the Club! Not just last night, but week in and week out -- you guys are the best!
***
DJ Doof - Guess The Theme
Difficulty level 3 out of 5
What's the common thread / common meaning / common leitmotif?
***
Weekly commenter stats for week of 12-14-2025
AoSHQ Commenter Statistics:
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Number of comments: 24178
Number of unique hashes: 1826
Top 10 commenters:
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6 [350 comments] 'Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ '
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8 [291 comments] 'Skip '
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10 [269 comments] 'Tom Servo'
Top 10 sockpuppeteers:
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Posted by: gKWVE at December 14, 2025 10:06 PM (gKWVE)
9
I had to look up the lyrics on Marshmallow World. I heard "It's the time for play, it's a whipped cream day" as it's a wet dream day. Didn't think even Deano would sing that.
😲
10
Lotta strange and terrible stories today. The horror in Australia, the Brown shooter has been caught and identified, and now tonight, police are reporting a man and a woman found dead inside Rob Reiner’s mansion. No names yet but speculation is rampant.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 10:06 PM (k5cxK)
Posted by: 80's music fan at December 14, 2025 10:07 PM (YlWIZ)
13
"Perfessor Squirrel: A sweater depicting cats in Santa hats playing poker, their little 3D paws were posed holding tiny felt cards with pantless ladies on them."
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Heeeyyyyyooooo!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 10:07 PM (kpS4V)
Posted by: t-bird at December 14, 2025 10:09 PM (oAqqA)
20
Ok, read the content.
"Code Angel" is a great system. I hope nobody falsely accuses a trucker and ruins it. b/c presently no average joe in a shitty Hyundai will stop for a girl having trouble on the highway for that reason
Posted by: gKWVE at December 14, 2025 10:09 PM (gKWVE)
21police are reporting a man and a woman found dead inside Rob Reiner’s mansion
*side eye left*
*side eye right*
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 14, 2025 10:10 PM (8DR9B)
22
Something I've been meaning to mention: Trump went to a military school and that clearly shaped his character. While he has a free-wheeling personality, when it comes to customs and courtesies, he is still very much a young man who knows how to snap a salute.
23
I wasn't at the Christmas party. I was too busy dealing with my own. I gotta say, almost 20 people were here, a shitload of food and booze, people were all over the place and I didn't find a single frigging crumb on the floor. I was speechless.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 14, 2025 10:10 PM (snZF9)
24
Rumor is Meathead is Dead. Rob Reiner's house has two bodies, that seem to match Rob's age and I guess his wife. Someone in earlier thread thought Rob's son was involved in the murder ... nothing confirmed yet ... seems odd.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 14, 2025 10:10 PM (vbXSk)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 10:08 PM (CTokg)
Howdy SF
Posted by: Doof at December 14, 2025 10:10 PM (QMAsf)
28
I had a Filipina roommate in college who got moist when Train in Vain played on the radio. Happy memories.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 14, 2025 10:11 PM (yuFKO)
29Could I interest anyone in an arctic air mass? I'll give to you real cheap.
Posted by: publius
No, thanks- I've already got one!
Posted by: t-bird at December 14, 2025 10:11 PM (oAqqA)
30
With this being such a tragic day in so many places I was trying to be serious and respectful about that Rob Reiner story.
And then someone said “wow that Spinal Tap sequel must have really been bad.”
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 10:11 PM (k5cxK)
31yoNT
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2025 10:08 PM (IaZ7c)
Hey there, garrett. Good to see you.
Posted by: Doof at December 14, 2025 10:12 PM (QMAsf)
32
>>With this being such a tragic day in so many places I was trying to be serious and respectful about that Rob Reiner story
Hello Cleveland!
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2025 10:12 PM (IaZ7c)
33
"Could I interest anyone in an arctic air mass? I'll give to you real cheap." Posted by: publius,
Today only, will mostly be gone tomorrow. 4 degrees her right now.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 14, 2025 10:12 PM (vbXSk)
34
Good evening Horde! Thanks Disco and Piper! Love the spiffy dino-sweater!
35
Shopping @ Harbor Freight, so many things.
I'll be back.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 14, 2025 10:13 PM (/9q7d)
36 I did not know Meathead had a drug addict son. This is crazy, reporting a 78 yr old man and 68 yr old woman are dead, and it's homicide. But not mentioning if its Reiner and his wife.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 14, 2025 10:13 PM (w6EFb)
37
My kid was born when I was in the Air Force, and I remember the CDC had us watch a parenting video made by Rob Reiner. Ironic or tragic, Alanis?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 14, 2025 10:13 PM (yuFKO)
38
Piper, the Troika lighted ornaments are da bomb!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 10:13 PM (CTokg)
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2025 10:13 PM (IaZ7c)
40
With this being such a tragic day in so many places I was trying to be serious and respectful about that Rob Reiner story.
And then someone said “wow that Spinal Tap sequel must have really been bad.”
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 10:11 PM (k5cxK)
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I think it is sometime best to respond to events with silence.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 14, 2025 10:13 PM (zZu0s)
42Hey there, garrett. Good to see you.
Posted by: Doof at December 14, 2025 10:12 PM (QMAsf)
I would ask questions, Doof. He's not on the normal roster.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 14, 2025 10:14 PM (8DR9B)
43
That anthem rendition didn't have any jive bopping note bending hip hopping stuff.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 14, 2025 10:14 PM (pkeXY)
44
I did not know Meathead had a drug addict son. This is crazy, reporting a 78 yr old man and 68 yr old woman are dead, and it's homicide. But not mentioning if its Reiner and his wife.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 14, 2025 10:13 PM (w6EFb)
Too young to be Archie and Edith.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 14, 2025 10:14 PM (snZF9)
45I did not know Meathead had a drug addict son. This is crazy, reporting a 78 yr old man and 68 yr old woman are dead, and it's homicide. But not mentioning if its Reiner and his wife.
Could be anyone.
Posted by: Phil Spector at December 14, 2025 10:14 PM (8DR9B)
46Good evening Horde! Thanks Disco and Piper! Love the spiffy dino-sweater!
Posted by: TRex - fashion model dino at December 14, 2025 10:13 PM (IQ6Gq)
As Rod Stewart would say - you wear it well!
Posted by: Doof at December 14, 2025 10:15 PM (QMAsf)
47I would ask questions, Doof. He's not on the normal roster.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 14, 2025 10:14 PM (8DR9B)
That's an understatement
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 14, 2025 10:16 PM (RoO7G)
No, thanks- I've already got one!
Posted by: t-bird
I guess I should add in John Cleese's French accent: "It's very nice-a"
Posted by: t-bird at December 14, 2025 10:16 PM (oAqqA)
51
Apparently I have been subscribed to Paramount Plus for 5 years.
Never watched a thing on it.
Dang it.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 14, 2025 10:17 PM (RoO7G)
52
That anthem rendition didn't have any jive bopping note bending hip hopping stuff.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 14, 2025 10:14 PM (pkeXY)
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I hate that the Fugees version of "Killing Me Softly" has completely eclipsed Roberta Flack's which is far more polished. Wavering a tone is a bush league thing - holding a note steady is hard.
53I would ask questions, Doof. He's not on the normal roster.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 14, 2025 10:14 PM (8DR9B)
He has an older code, but it checks out
Posted by: Doof at December 14, 2025 10:18 PM (QMAsf)
54
Angle Grinder Stand, didn't know they made one till EweTube told me. $30 at Bezosville.
Mount your angle grinder on it - turns it into a cut-off saw.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 14, 2025 10:18 PM (/9q7d)
55
I feel I should interject: it's 5 degrees here.
Just the five.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 14, 2025 10:18 PM (zZu0s)
56
38 Piper, the Troika lighted ornaments are da bomb!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 10:13 PM
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Absolutely! Love 'em! Thank you JQ!!
57
I think it is sometime best to respond to events with silence…
Said No One on the Internet Ever.
(Present company excepted, of course)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 10:18 PM (k5cxK)
58 I can't remember what life was like before ONTs. How did we survive?
Posted by: mindful webworker - how how wow at December 14, 2025 10:01 PM (lbDMw)
They were dark and lonely nights. . . .
I've gotten so used to the ONTs (all better than one). The ONT is like Johnny's monologue was. Can't miss it. (Take a Bow, COBGents.)
Being a member of the Horde gives me piece of whatever mind I have left that I'm not the only sick bastard out there.
Posted by: RickZ at December 14, 2025 10:18 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 14, 2025 10:22 PM (zZu0s)
76
...and, Happy Hanukkah motherfuckers.
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2025 10:09 PM (IaZ7c)
* * * *
And to you as well!
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 14, 2025 10:22 PM (kB9dk)
77I've gotten so used to the ONTs (all better than one). The ONT is like Johnny's monologue was. Can't miss it. (Take a Bow, COBGents.)
Being a member of the Horde gives me piece of whatever mind I have left that I'm not the only sick bastard out there.
Posted by: RickZ at December 14, 2025 10:18 PM (gKDq2)
Appreciate the kind words!
Posted by: Doof at December 14, 2025 10:23 PM (QMAsf)
78
That sweater from JQ....
Are those multi-colored 9mm brass on it?
Posted by: GWB at December 14, 2025 10:23 PM (GHq+I)
Posted by: weft cut loop at December 14, 2025 10:23 PM (mlg/3)
81
>>Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 14, 2025 10:22 PM (kB9dk)
Thanks!
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2025 10:23 PM (IaZ7c)
82
I'm still typing to wrap my mind around paying $1000.00 for a pair of shoes. That seems a bit high to me. If I added up all the shoes I've bought in my life I don't think they would add up to a thousand bucks.
Posted by: Case at December 14, 2025 10:24 PM (G1OIb)
I guess Methos and I are sharing the pedantry room in the Hordemind.
Posted by: mikeski, still pedantically at December 14, 2025 10:26 PM (nhCoE)
92
An interesting sidebar about Army vs. Navy that I wasn’t aware of till I read about Hap Arnold - if Army wins, at least historically this meant a temporary relaxation of the disciplinary climate of “Beast Barracks” and bracing and all that, again at least for a little while. So that’s kind of nice, I’m sure. Go Army!
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 10:26 PM (im9tq)
93
@AZ_Intel_ 3m
BREAKING: Knife believed to have been used in attack at Rob Reiner’s mansion in Los Angeles, where two elderly people were found dead, sources say. - NYP
The ages of the deceased match those of Reiner and his wife, though victims have not yet been identified.
Posted by: weft cut loop at December 14, 2025 10:26 PM (mlg/3)
Helluva bash last night! Thanks to all y’all hanging out. Glad the karaoke machine sputtered out. Jeepers, Doof and Piper singing Those Summer Nights was a lout all I could take.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 14, 2025 10:27 PM (mT+6a)
96
Being a member of the Horde gives me piece of whatever mind I have left that I'm not the only sick bastard out there.
Posted by: RickZ at December 14, 2025 10:18 PM (gKDq2)
I’ve taken a highly scientific survey and the results were stunning. Apparently, everyone here thinks you’re the only sick bastard out there. However, there is the remote possibility most survey respondents were lying.
Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at December 14, 2025 10:27 PM (ZTJjv)
1979 was a very good year... for music.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 14, 2025 10:26 PM (syz1S)
The theme is not a year
Posted by: Doof at December 14, 2025 10:27 PM (QMAsf)
98
This video came up during Nerdrotic's Forbidden Frontier tonight, Peter Cushing plays wargames with miniatures:
https://tinyurl.com/4aa7jbpy
Posted by: Methos at December 14, 2025 10:28 PM (vSvIl)
99Jeepers, Doof and Piper singing Those Summer Nights was a lout all I could take.
Posted by: nurse ratched
I think there's some actual "AI" seeping into autocucumber.
Posted by: mikeski at December 14, 2025 10:28 PM (nhCoE)
100
Hey! Somehow I made the bottom of the sockpuppet list. Yay me. Send $2 for my secret method and a lesson in how not to get ripped off by internet scammers.
101
"I feel I should interject: it's 5 degrees here. Just the five."
I'm now up a degree, seems 4 is the low, the warming starts now. 16 by morning, 38 the high tomorrow. yahoooo. Reversal to the mean, or something.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 14, 2025 10:28 PM (vbXSk)
102
Howdy LS. I agree, Piper did an exceptionally good job tonight. I may double her usual pay.
Photo was taken by a friend this morning. We had a nice blanket of snow overnight.
Posted
Just pay your credit card bill and don’t look too closely at it.
Posted by: Piper at December 14, 2025 10:28 PM (ZdaMQ)
103
The sweater commentary was hilarious!
I'd rather spend the money on a good purse than shoes at this point. With bad knees, heels are no longer an option.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 14, 2025 10:29 PM (0KfN1)
106
82 I'm still typing to wrap my mind around paying $1000.00 for a pair of shoes.
Posted by: Case at December 14, 2025 10:24 PM
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Maybe they come with a little pouch full of Club ONT Restroom tokens?? In that case, they'd be a bargain!
107
well, Reiner did come through for decency in the wake of Kirk's death.
- oh wait, he was talking about Kimmel. In a way, leftist entertainers were the real victims of September 10.
tinyurl.com/5bevesht
Posted by: gKWVE at December 14, 2025 10:29 PM (gKWVE)
108
Piper singing Those Summer Nights was a lout all I could take.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 14, 2025 10:27 PM (mT+6a)
What happens at the ONT..,oh wait.
Posted by: Piper at December 14, 2025 10:29 PM (ZdaMQ)
109
TMZ and others were found dead and stabbed to death. Hard way to go, even for meathead. But cancer and other illnesses probably worse, as far as suffering.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 14, 2025 10:29 PM (vbXSk)
110
Weird that the greatest country song ever recorded was dine by a London punk band.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 14, 2025 10:30 PM (R256O)
111I didn't know chicks could be funny.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
You can do a lot when you don't know what you're doing.
Posted by: weft cut loop at December 14, 2025 10:30 PM (mlg/3)
112
It’s weird that I feel bad that possibly someone who wished me and my fellow travelers harm has been murdered.
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You can take solace and assuage your guilt by reflecting on the fact that the leftists are the folks who deconstructed our norms and traditions, customs and courtesies that did so much to make life a much more pleasant affair. Save your sympathy for people who actually deserve it in kind.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 10:30 PM (im9tq)
113
I'm holding a millisecond of respectful silencedone, fuck Reiner.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 14, 2025 10:30 PM (gKWVE)
114Just pay your credit card bill and don’t look too closely at it.
Posted by: Piper at December 14, 2025 10:28 PM (ZdaMQ)
Not the first time I've heard those words!
Posted by: Doof at December 14, 2025 10:30 PM (QMAsf)
115
Just pay your credit card bill and don’t look too closely at it.
Posted by: Piper
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Piper, Dino and I are going to need that Doof, CC. 39ft Dino and a phone with a calibrated keyboard are on our lists.
Posted by: scampydog - tree sap chic at December 14, 2025 10:31 PM (41CYW)
116
TMZ and other reporting Reiner found dead ... sorry, a glitch in the Matrix.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 14, 2025 10:31 PM (vbXSk)
117
Something I've been meaning to mention: Trump went to a military school and that clearly shaped his character. While he has a free-wheeling personality, when it comes to customs and courtesies, he is still very much a young man who knows how to snap a salute.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Big deal...I mean, I went to Band Camp.
Posted by: Bill Clinton at December 14, 2025 10:31 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 10:31 PM (KDPiq)
119
The ages of the deceased match those of Reiner and his wife, though victims have not yet been identified.
Posted by: weft cut loop
+++
How the hell do they know the age of the victims if they haven't been identified?
Posted by: Florida Peasant at December 14, 2025 10:31 PM (Lo97M)
120
ROB REINER & WIFE MICHELE
FOUND DEAD AT L.A. HOME ...
Wounds Consistent With A Knife
BY TMZ STAFF
Published December 14, 2025 7:20 PM PST
Comments
Rob Reiner -- the legendary director -- and his wife Michele Singer Reiner have died ... TMZ has confirmed.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2025 10:32 PM (QVuuq)
121I’ve taken a highly scientific survey and the results were stunning. Apparently, everyone here thinks you’re the only sick bastard out there. However, there is the remote possibility most survey respondents were lying.
Posted by: DJ Jazzy Mel at December 14, 2025 10:27 PM (ZTJjv)
I know the 'respondents' are lying: Unlike Ace, I read the comments here.
Posted by: RickZ at December 14, 2025 10:32 PM (gKDq2)
122
>>Weird that the greatest country song ever recorded was dine by a London punk band.
If you aren't familiar with Ween's Country LP, you should definitely check it out. "12 Golden Country Hits".
The Supersuckers also dabbled in Country on 'Must've Been High' (featuring the great Harmonica Playing of Micky Raphael).
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2025 10:32 PM (IaZ7c)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 14, 2025 10:33 PM (0KfN1)
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38 Piper, the Troika lighted ornaments are da bomb!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 10:13 PM (CTokg)
Thank you! That was one of the most fun things I have written. I was giggling out loud like a psychopath and praying those I mentioned played along. 😂
Posted by: Piper at December 14, 2025 10:33 PM (ZdaMQ)
12692 An interesting sidebar about Army vs. Navy that I wasn’t aware of till I read about Hap Arnold - if Army wins, at least historically this meant a temporary relaxation of the disciplinary climate of “Beast Barracks” and bracing and all that, again at least for a little while. So that’s kind of nice, I’m sure. Go Army!
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 10:26 PM (im9tq)
So kinda. Beast Barracks is the summer Cadet Basic training prior to the academic year. The disciplinary climate is somewhat more relaxed in the academic year.
(Back in the old days it was hard not like now! As with everything.)
If Army Beat Navy the plebes would get "fall out" until the Christmas break - and afterward back to the old grind.
Of course in the really old days the plebes didn't even go home at Christmas break. So they had things to say about later classes having it easier, too.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 14, 2025 10:33 PM (RoO7G)
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Just dropping by as the First Lady read that 2 bodies were found at Rob Reiner's property. On 70' year old man and a 60's year old women.
Could it be?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 14, 2025 10:33 PM (Zz0t1)
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Posted by: Florida Peasant at December 14, 2025 10:31 PM (Lo97M
Semantics. Authorities haven’t released the identities, just the ages.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 10:33 PM (KDPiq)
129FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 14, 2025 10:32 PM (Zz0t1)
Another appearance on one of my ONTs?? I'm honored!
Posted by: Doof at December 14, 2025 10:34 PM (QMAsf)
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Weird that the greatest country song ever recorded was dine by a London punk band.
YGBSM
Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at December 14, 2025 10:34 PM (47diA)
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>>Rob Reiner -- the legendary director -- and his wife Michele Singer Reiner have died ... TMZ has confirmed.
Sad. Doubly so to think that it may have come at the hand of their own Son on the first night of Hanukkah.
Hated the guy's guts. And, for good reason.
But that doesn't make this any less sad to see.
Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2025 10:34 PM (IaZ7c)
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She just updated that they've opened a murder investigation.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 14, 2025 10:34 PM (Zz0t1)
133
Oh, I was #2 on the commenter list...how appropriate for tonight...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 14, 2025 10:34 PM (ynpvh)
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So, my son works for Google and there is an AI thing called Gemini and he says that his team are really enjoying software development again.
So, my advice is: Don't think it is crap.
Posted by: no one at December 14, 2025 10:35 PM (W7XSX)
135
Ages without identities. Woodchipper time for the reporter.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 14, 2025 10:35 PM (0KfN1)
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Another appearance on one of my ONTs?? I'm honored!
Posted by: Doof at December 14, 2025 10:34 PM (QMAsf)
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You said I inspired a ONT idea so I check in.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 14, 2025 10:35 PM (Zz0t1)
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Just dropping by as the First Lady read that 2 bodies were found at Rob Reiner's property. On 70' year old man and a 60's year old women.
Could it be?
Posted by: Sponge
It is. Confirmed.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2025 10:36 PM (QVuuq)
138 Oh, I was #2 on the commenter list...how appropriate for tonight...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 14, 2025 10:34 PM (ynpvh)
Hey there, Jim. You have surgery tomorrow, correct? Prayers up for you.
Posted by: Doof at December 14, 2025 10:36 PM (QMAsf)
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Posted by: garrett at December 14, 2025 10:34 PM (IaZ7c)
That seems to be a difference between us and them.
RIP Reiners.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 10:36 PM (KDPiq)
140
Humidity plays a bigger role in how cold it feels than I thought, I’ve learned. If it’s 45°F. and 20% humidity, that’s not too bad. 45°F. and 80% humidity, the damp seeps into everything, reducing the warmth of clothes & bedding or insulation to a great .. degree. “I’m freezing!” Even though it ain’t.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 10:36 PM (im9tq)
I haven't seen Joyenz post this yet. Hoping she's doing well.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 14, 2025 10:38 PM (S/Y4j)
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If Reiner was murdered, seems he screwed the wrong person.
Ibwill shed no tears, but will pray for mercy on his soul.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 14, 2025 10:38 PM (Zz0t1)
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Piper, Dino and I are going to need that Doof, CC. 39ft Dino and a phone with a calibrated keyboard are on our lists.
Posted by: scampydog - tree sap chic
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Is that Hobo Santa still around? Oh, there he is....Yo, I have one over here for your naughty list....
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How can anyone NOT listen to this and feel patriotic?!
Because we're democrats. We hate hate hate America!
Posted by: DNC at December 14, 2025 10:39 PM (uQesX)
152Helluva bash last night! Thanks to all y’all hanging out. Glad the karaoke machine sputtered out. Jeepers, Doof and Piper singing Those Summer Nights was a lout all I could take.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 14, 2025 10:27 PM (mT+6a)
I offered you a swig from my ugly sweater flask - along with DDS and COMM and Rat. That was supposed to numb you to the karaoke!
Posted by: Doof at December 14, 2025 10:39 PM (QMAsf)
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If Reiner was murdered, seems he screwed the wrong person.
Ibwill shed no tears, but will pray for mercy on his soul.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer
I eill show the same level of respect that the left showed Charlie Kirk.
Yeah, I'm petty like that.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2025 10:40 PM (QVuuq)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 14, 2025 10:40 PM (0KfN1)
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". If it’s 45°F. and 20% humidity, that’s not too bad. 45°F. and 80% humidity, the damp seeps into everything, reducing the warmth of clothes & bedding or insulation to a great .. degree. “I’m freezing!” Even though it ain’t."
It's not the heat, it's the humidity. ... same goes for cold. But usually inside homes in winter, it is very dry since cold air with high RELATIVE humidity does not hold much moisture, so when warmed it makes homes very dry. My humidity inside with the wood stove going is about 20%, while it is 76% outside.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 14, 2025 10:41 PM (vbXSk)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2025 10:41 PM (looXz)
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Maybe I haven't been around enough, but has anybody got an update on Teresa in Fort Worth since her surgery?
Posted by: tankdemon at December 14, 2025 10:41 PM (R256O)
162Ha - thanks for the reminder! I'll be sure to give you a heads up when I use the idea you inspired.
Posted by: Doof at December 14, 2025 10:37 PM (QMAsf)
Don't you know ANYTHING about dating? Now he's going to go away and not come back until you tell him.
Keep him wondering, he will keep coming round.
Preserve the mystery.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 14, 2025 10:41 PM (RoO7G)
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Is that Hobo Santa still around? Oh, there he is....Yo, I have one over here for your naughty list....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 14, 2025 10:39 PM (IQ6Gq)
If he's not, I'm available to come down your chimney.
Posted by: Homo Santa at December 14, 2025 10:42 PM (LZkYC)
Posted by: mikeski at December 14, 2025 10:45 PM (nhCoE)
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161 Maybe I haven't been around enough, but has anybody got an update on Teresa in Fort Worth since her surgery?
Posted by: tankdemon at December 14, 2025 10:41 PM (R256O)
Saturday prayer and coffee thread.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, at December 14, 2025 10:45 PM (0aYVJ)
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How the hell do they know the age of the victims if they haven't been identified?
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Oh, they were identified immediately. They just aren’t announcing their names, releasing the names, or revealing who it was to us, the public. My favorite in the passive aggressive category, they’ll refuse to release the names of the perpetrators of violent crimes or murder, citing “notification of next of kin”.
Words mean things, but strangely enough the very people who actually make their living by them tend to use them in strange or needlessly complicated as well as incorrect ways, these days most stories require a certain amount of reverse-engineering to make sense.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 10:45 PM (im9tq)
Posted by: Almost Alex Jones at December 14, 2025 10:48 PM (wrs2R)
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Those truckers. Pfft. They're nothing compared to the aid we give to the needy!
Posted by: Somalia, Inc. A Democrat Party Corporation at December 14, 2025 10:48 PM (uQesX)
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Still haven’t released the identity of the Brown University shooter.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 10:47 PM (KDPiq)
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Daily Mail has it.
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 14, 2025 10:48 PM (r+pQK)
181If Reiner was murdered, seems he screwed the wrong person.
Ibwill shed no tears, but will pray for mercy on his soul.
Posted by: Sponge
I don't hold that kind of ill will. Apparently his son was very disturbed. It's not apparent if the kid was involved or not but, yeesh...
Posted by: weft cut loop at December 14, 2025 10:48 PM (mlg/3)
182 With this weather station, I'm really enjoying watching the behavior.
Last night was something just before that front blew through with the arctic mass behind it. Last night, it cooled down to about 45F just after sundown. Then it steadily warmed up, and got downright balmy, and even sprinkled a bit. Today's high was about 58F, around 4:30AM. Dew point got up to 56F. Then, the front came through around 6AM and temp and dew point starting dropping.
Dew point drop was dramatic, over 50F by 6PM. Temp had a little local low of 42F by 9AM, and then it tried to warm up with the sun, peaking at solar noon just under 50F. Dew point was falling the whole time.
And then, by sundown, temp was 32F. It's now 21F. Dew point bottomed at 2F, but it's moistened up to 6F now.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 14, 2025 10:49 PM (w6EFb)
183Still haven’t released the identity of the Brown University shooter.
...which is our clue that he's as Heartland American as a US Federal District judge.
Posted by: t-bird at December 14, 2025 10:49 PM (oAqqA)
184
Funny comment folllowing the "All In The Family" clip:
Seeing Mike in that tye dye shirt really makes you understand Archie and his dislike of him
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2025 10:49 PM (looXz)
Posted by: GigantorX at December 14, 2025 10:49 PM (2TAD7)
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Do they have that Code Angel information in Hindi and Punjab, also?
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 14, 2025 10:49 PM (RoO7G)
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I am sorry Mr. Reiner and his wife found the end of their life in such a horrific manner. I pray he reconnected with his faith in his heart. The first night of Hanukkah adds to the tragedy.
Posted by: Piper at December 14, 2025 10:49 PM (ZdaMQ)
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"Still haven’t released the identity of the Brown University shooter." Posted by: the way I see it
I think they did, but with the current mis-info trend, I could be wrong. It is a white military guy from Wisconsin. Supposedly was planning to go to Brown next year. But getting that confirmed is more difficult.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 14, 2025 10:50 PM (vbXSk)
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I had to look up the lyrics on Marshmallow World. I heard "It's the time for play, it's a whipped cream day" as it's a wet dream day. Didn't think even Deano would sing that.
😲
Posted by: mindful webworker - what? at December 14, 2025 10:06 PM (lbDMw)
Let's just pretend he never recorded it, shall we?
Posted by: The Rest of the Rat Pack, not including Peter Lawford, of course at December 14, 2025 10:50 PM (uQesX)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 14, 2025 10:50 PM (Zz0t1)
192 Erika Kirk says all livestreams 'on hold' until after private meeting with Candance Owens.
Posted by: fourseasons at December 14, 2025 10:50 PM (3ek7K)
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Flintstone footprints remind me of "Adam Purple" leaving purple footprints in the Wii hours all over the sidewalks of lower New York quite a few years ago. No one knew how all these purple footprints were left on the sidewalks and he must have done it at 3:00 in the morning or thereabouts but it finally came out that he was rolling a metal drum with sponge feet attached and that had purple paint in it so he could just leave these crazy Footprints all over the place. I bet JJ remembers this because it was in our neighborhood.
Posted by: Beverly at December 14, 2025 10:51 PM (reMys)
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Piper! Oh, wow, you actually took a picture of my horrible Christmas sweater! Gah! I must've been in the tie for 1st place, that's the gaudy-awfullest thing...
So glad you all loved your custom light strings!
<3 <3 <3
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 10:51 PM (rdVOm)
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180 Still haven’t released the identity of the Brown University shooter.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 10:47 PM (KDPiq)
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Daily Mail has it.
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 14, 2025 10:48 PM (r+pQK)
My bad. Hadn’t looked in a couple of hours. Seems American msm now reporting also.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 10:51 PM (KDPiq)
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174 Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 10:45 PM (im9tq)
Still haven’t released the identity of the Brown University shooter.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 10:47 PM (KDPiq)
NBC4 update
"New details are beginning to emerge about Benjamin Erickson, the person of interest in the Brown University mass shooting that left two dead and nine others injured.
According to NBC News, public records indicate that as of 2024, his residence was an apartment in Washington, D.C., and that he previously lived in Wisconsin. He was registered to vote in Washington, D.C., as recently as 2023, with party affiliation listed as “statehood.”
Separate Wisconsin voter registration records from 2020 listed “military” under voter information.
Initial public records searches do not indicate that he had a previous criminal record.
According to a statement from Army Spokesperson, LTC Ruth Castro: “Benjamin W. Erickson was an Infantryman (11B) in the Regular Army from May 2021 to November 2024. He has no deployments and left the Army in the rank of specialist."
Posted by: Nova Local at December 14, 2025 10:51 PM (tOcjL)
"Law enforcement officials say they are looking into what might be an extensive mental health history for Erickson. They said they are also looking into a possible connection to Brown."
Posted by: Nova Local at December 14, 2025 10:52 PM (tOcjL)
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138 Oh, I was #2 on the commenter list...how appropriate for tonight...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 14, 2025 10:34 PM (ynpvh)
Hey there, Jim. You have surgery tomorrow, correct? Prayers up for you.
Posted by: Doof at December 14, 2025 10:36 PM (QMAsf)
Indeed. Thanks!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 14, 2025 10:52 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: 496 at December 14, 2025 10:54 PM (rG5we)
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Erika Kirk says all livestreams 'on hold' until after private meeting with Candance Owens.
Posted by: fourseasons at December 14, 2025 10:50 PM (3ek7K)
I didn't realize they had that kind of control. We have to wait on that meeting till we get the next Joe Rogan Podcast?
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 14, 2025 10:54 PM (RoO7G)
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"Law enforcement officials say they are looking into what might be an extensive mental health history for Erickson. They said they are also looking into a possible connection to Brown."
Posted by: Nova Local at December 14, 2025 10:52 PM (tOcjL)
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Daily Mail says he transferred to Brown in the fall.
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 14, 2025 10:55 PM (r+pQK)
205According to NBC News, public records indicate that as of 2024, his residence was an apartment in Washington, D.C., and that he previously lived in Wisconsin. He was registered to vote in Washington, D.C., as recently as 2023, with party affiliation listed as “statehood.”
Posted by: Nova Local
Yup. Another MAGA killer.
Posted by: The MSM at December 14, 2025 10:55 PM (nhCoE)
What movie is playing at the Drive In during the opening of The Flintstones?
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 10:55 PM (KDPiq)
Gun Thread: Second December Edition!
Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!
Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be the Second December Edition? Only 11 Days until Christmas! Have you done all of your shopping for shooting stuff or are there still some things on your list? Do tell.
With that, step into the dojo and let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?
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FUNdamentals
OK, you win. Good marksmanship isn't the result of hard work, diligent practice and a focus on fundamentals. You've worn me down and I am now prepared to share the one weird trick that allows you to skip all the hard work and achieve instant and easy results. It's quite simple really, and frankly I am a little surprised you haven't figured it out already, so here it is.
Magic Beans or Shooting Crystals
That's right people. Rabbit's feet don't work. You have to source magic beans or shooting crystals and keep one or two in your pocket at the range and you're instantly a master marksman. Crazy huh? So much quicker and easier than working logically and methodically towards a goal over time and measuring progress along the way.
That's what you fundamentals deniers want, right? A quick and easy fix which allows instant gratification, or am I mistaken here?
Unfortunately, Magic Beans and Shooting Crystals aren't always easy to find, so you may have to do it the old fashioned way. If you find yourself in this position, here is a video on managing flinch and fixing bad habits.
There isn't an easy way, people. It's hard work, diligent practice and focusing on fundamentals.
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M1917 Masterclass
An excellent tutorial for anyone with a Smith & Wesson revolver.
Did you learn anything?
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$15 Gun
Heck, for $15 I'll take two.
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Christmas Decorations
11 days to Christmas, people. Have you decorated your house? Please tell me you aren't just throwing up a half-assed string of lights again this year.
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Too much? Too much you say? Well how about a nice simple train set set up around the tree?
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Our Pal The Perfect Circle Piston Ring
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Ax Weasel
Q: Weasel, are manners important?
A: Why yes, yes they are.
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Highway Patrol!
This week's episode: Human Bomb! Yikes!
Well, what can I say about an old standby? There is a reason it is an old standby which I'll discuss in a moment.
But first the cigar. The Romeo y Julieta was one of the original Cuban cigars, and politics being what they are, what we see (and buy) today is produced now in the Dominican Republic. It offers a blend of tobaccos that produces a medium to full-bodied, and full-flavored profile. It does this well! I often speak of cigars in thirds, and the first third lets you know you are smoking a good cigar. It gets your attention. The wrapper and binder are Nicaraguan leaf, with a filler mixture of Nicaraguan and Honduran tobaccos. The flavor is rich and robust, with earthy undertones and a smooth tobacco aftertaste. The second third mellows out into a fine aroma and smooth smoke. Towards the end, a peppery sweetness lingers after each puff, thanks to the thick wrapper. And I like this as it blends well with any worthy scotch or bourbon. But if you like wine with your cigars (I won't judge) go with a merlot, or a lighter cab if you can find one.
90 rating by the guy who rates things. I concur.
Standby cigars always have room in my humidor. In this last week as the rains fell here in Western Washington and I watched the rivers rise, I didn't think it was time for new or different cigar. This was a time to pull out an old reliable and face the tempest with confidence. And so I did.
At about $6-8 a pop not a wallet buster but look for sales. You can find them.
Excellent, Diogenes! Thank you very much!
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Here are some different online cigar vendors. You will find they not only carry different brands and different lines from those brands, but also varying selections of vitolas (sizes/shapes) of given lines. It's good to have options, especially if you're looking for a specific cigar.
Cigarsinternational.com Cigarpage.com Famous-smoke.com Cigarsdaily.com Neptunecigar.com Smallbatchcigar.com Bobalu Cigar Company Cigarbid.com Nicks Cigar WorldNew!A note about sources. The brick & mortar/online divide exists with cigars, as with guns, and most consumer products, with respect to price. As with guns - since both are "persecuted industries", basically - I make a conscious effort to source at least some of my cigars from my local store(s). It's a small thing, but the brick & mortar segment for both guns and tobacco are precious, and worth supporting where you can. And if you're lucky enough to have a good cigar store/lounge available, they're often a good social event with many dangerous people of the sort who own scary gunz, or read smart military blogs like this one. -rhomboid
Anyone have others to include? Perhaps a small local roller who makes a cigar you like? Send me your recommendation and a link to the site!
Please note the new and improved protonmail account gunthread at protonmail dot com. An informal Gun Thread archive can be found HERE. Future expansion plans are in the works for the site Weasel Gun Thread. If you have a question you would like to ask Gun Thread Staff offline, just send us a note and we'll do our best to answer. If you care to share the story of your favorite firearm, send a picture with your nic and tell us what you sadly lost in the tragic canoe accident. If you would like to remain completely anonymous, just say so. Lurkers are always welcome!
That's it for this week - have you been to the range?
Posted by: Coelacanth at December 14, 2025 07:03 PM (qYZiO)
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I discovered the other day that a Gurkha Park Avenue 44 pairs well with hot chocolate.
Gives the drink a mocha flavor.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 14, 2025 07:04 PM (i00+Z)
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No range report. Maybe during some vacation time I plan to take over Christmas. The new scope on the old rifle needs to be zeroed.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 14, 2025 07:04 PM (Wnv9h)
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Puttered with some gun stuff and a couple of inches of ice and global warming.
Thanks as always Weasel and blessings abounding for all of the GunHorde
Posted by: Coelacanth at December 14, 2025 07:06 PM (qYZiO)
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I need a suggestion for a gun related gift. My #2 son has a reproduction Charleville musket with a 46" barrel and needs a better cleaning rod than what he is using. Does anyone have a suggestion for a good one, one piece, and maybe some other cleaning accessories?
Posted by: fd at December 14, 2025 07:07 PM (vFG9F)
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For folks in the DC area. The Nations Gun Show has been held at the Dulles Expo Center for years. That facility has been sold. The gun show is moving to the Manassas Mall. First show is scheduled for January 2, 3, and 4.
Just FYI.
PS: I believe Ikea bought the Dulles Expo Center.
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 07:08 PM (yTvNw)
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No range report. Maybe during some vacation time I plan to take over Christmas. The new scope on the old rifle needs to be zeroed.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 14, 2025 07:04 PM (Wnv9h)
Come on up!
Posted by: RI Red at December 14, 2025 07:08 PM (4dsHO)
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I've also started a cigar journal, so I have some chance of remembering the ones I enjoyed.
There's a cigar lounge in town that has a really nice atmosphere and doesn't mind a civilized lady (or a reasonable facsimile thereof) stopping on occasionally for a stick.
Stepdad and I brainstormed a design for a cigar ashtray, and might see about putting it together over Christmas, in between out other projects. It'll involve welding.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 14, 2025 07:09 PM (i00+Z)
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In that $15 gun pic everyone is pointing their weapon at the other guy's head.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 14, 2025 07:09 PM (pkeXY)
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I'll have to look at the videos later. I have javascript turned off for comments as that sometimes generates errors from whatever adware that Ace hires out to.
That being said, AGI always has decent videos and I have quite a few on dvd for my firearms. I opened Ace's website in one of my other browsers and it started playing ok.
Do remember one thing, Both Colt and S&W made 1917 models and they are drastically different inside. What AGI video covers is only the S&W. The Colt was a militarized version of its New Service revolver.
The S&W 1917 is a simplified version of its grand Triple Lock model as the Brits and other militaries asked for a firearm suitable for trenches so the shrouded ejector and the third lock went.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 07:10 PM (WDjG6)
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fd I had to get 2 shotgun cleaning rods that connect for my Brown Bess. 1 rod isn't long enough.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 07:11 PM (Ia/+0)
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Any thoughts about Gun Jesus' negative review of the Army's selection of the M7 as its new standard infantry rifle? As I understand it, the Army is repeating the same mistake it made with the M14 rifle in that it's trying to have one platform become a "do it all" individual weapon in that it's supposed to do CQB, accurate long range fire out to 800m, suppressed, and do it in a short barreled format for ease of handing in vehicles. Trying to have it excel in everything will only increase the cost and ensure it'll fail in something critical (ammo capacity, rounds carried, etc.). The most recent serious infantry combat going on right now (Ukraine, Gaza/Middle East) tells me that 5.56mm NATO and intermediate cartridges are far from finished as a serious infantry small arm chambering.
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 07:11 PM (BCwQW)
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Good evening gubthreaders and all the ships at sea!
Hats off to you sailor types for playing a good game of football a little bit better than the good guys.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 14, 2025 07:12 PM (RoO7G)
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Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 07:08 PM (yTvNw)
You are correct. Manassas Mall is only for January, though, according to one of the veteran exhibitors I talk to.
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 07:13 PM (BCwQW)
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I did zero Gub things this week, other than presents. Got DILIT some high vis sights for her G44.
And to get “free shipping” from Midway, I may have added a stainless steel guide rod and spring for my G 21.
Time to upgrade that baby. I’m really taking a shine to .45 AC lately.
Posted by: RI Red at December 14, 2025 07:14 PM (23/y9)
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Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 07:13 PM (BCwQW)
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I remember going to a movie at Manassas Mall as a teenager and the ticket was $4.
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 07:14 PM (vt7xw)
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14 I need a suggestion for a gun related gift. My #2 son has a reproduction Charleville musket with a 46" barrel and needs a better cleaning rod than what he is using. Does anyone have a suggestion for a good one, one piece, and maybe some other cleaning accessories?
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Trackoftheworld dot com Search for ramrods.
They have nice stuff there for smokepoles.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 07:15 PM (WDjG6)
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 07:16 PM (WDjG6)
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Finally this past week bought my childhood dream, a cap and ball revolver
A Armi San Marco reproduction of a 1860 Colt in 44 cal.
from Dixon's Muzzleoading shop in Kempton PA. I also got the bullet mold he said in .457 and yesterday cast 50 bullets but not so sure they will fit. A search for the answer is many do use the bigger bullets but it's not easy to seat them it looks.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 07:17 PM (Ia/+0)
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Evening all.
Happy Hannukah
No range export but I have spent the better part of the day on X talking about the importance of guns and the second amendment. I have also already made a New Year's resolution to get a CC license.
Seeems like a good idea.
31As I understand it, the Army is repeating the same mistake it made with the M14 rifle in that it's trying to have one platform become a "do it all" individual weapon...
"One size fits all" seems to be the holy grail of military procurement in every branch. M14, F35, LCS, probably other things as well. It never works as well as they think it's going to.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 14, 2025 07:18 PM (3nLb4)
Posted by: man at December 14, 2025 07:18 PM (XuXeR)
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I improvised a truck holster for the new truck. Some sticky Velcro and one of those soft holsters designed for the inside door of a gun safe. Hope to set it up by my knee on the drivers side. Will let you know when I try it out.
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 07:19 PM (vt7xw)
Oh well
Posted by: man at December 14, 2025 07:18 PM
Thank you for catching one of my grammar pet peeves.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 14, 2025 07:19 PM (Wnv9h)
3619 Do remember one thing, Both Colt and S&W made 1917 models and they are drastically different inside. - whig
Now, there's something (among many things) I didn't know. Are the differences mainly related to cylinder lock-up, or leaf springs vs coil or what, exactly?
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 07:20 PM (2L+MU)
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 07:20 PM (sDNVV)
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If you've no place to shoot on private property, whether yours or a friend's, you are paying to go to a range.
My situation in SW FL, where I spend six months each winter and spring, is an indoor one that has pistol only for $25 an hour, and an outdoor one that's $25 per DAY, with a $35 up front fee at the beginning. Either way it's about the cost of 100 rounds of 9mm. Before you start to shoot.
Up in far NW Chicagoland where we spend part of our up north time, I can go to a place that's under two miles and two traffic lights away, and shoot indoors for $10 each 30 minutes, and it has a handgun side and a rifle side.
The rest of the up north time is spent in the Adirondack wilderness where I can shoot on the property, or on any parts of the 400,000 or more wild mountain state-owned wilderness adjacent.
What are you paying to shoot, and at what frequency?
Posted by: M. Gaga at December 14, 2025 07:21 PM (KiBMU)
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New truck? Pray tell what did you do?
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 07:20 PM (sDNVV)
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Old F-150 is kaput so I replaced it (w another f-150). Trying to keep up with Weasel Buddy Geoff!
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 07:22 PM (vt7xw)
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21 Any thoughts about Gun Jesus' negative review of the Army's selection of the M7 as its new standard infantry rifle?
Army is running into physics and coming up with the wrong answers. Simply put, you are already at crazy high pressures with the M7 but they are thinking about getting up to 100k. Unless you line your barrels with Stellite, your barrels won't last worth a damn, likewise other components.
And I blame Sig engineers for not telling the Army straight up, you can't have a very short barrel, very high pressure, and long term reliability and durability. M4 should have taught the Army that as those carbines really accelerated wear on bolts, were harsher recoiling, etc. than the older long rifles.
So instead, go for higher tech bullets if you gotta pierce armored vests up to 500 yards. High pressure and short barrels are simply not the way to do it.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 07:23 PM (WDjG6)
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Quick range report and then off to read the content:
Did accuracy drills with Bubba Fly yesterday. Bubba Fly is a Gen 4 GLock 19 that bubba (the previous owner) decided to modify with a heat gun and a sodering iron, at a guess. The grips are nicely stippled in a way that might give some people the hives...but it works. Nice double undercut in the trigger guard so it doesn't cause 'Glock Knuckle' on me. It also has a SIG Romeo Zero (I think) mounted. A good, very good, used pistol.
Accuracy was sufficent. Not as good as my CZ P07 but mostly in the 10 ring. I'm sure the few fliers were due to me not getting my trigger press right.
A few extra rounds after that with my Taurus TX-22. Which worked fine, no jams or nothing. Federal Automatch.
I noticed the Glock shot a bit high with Fioccia 115gr JHPs. It was probably zeroed for 124 grn loads.
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Do remember one thing, Both Colt and S&W made 1917 models and they are drastically different inside. - whig
Now, there's something (among many things) I didn't know. Are the differences mainly related to cylinder lock-up, or leaf springs vs coil or what, exactly?
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 07:20 PM (2L+MU)
Paco, I recommend watching C&Rsenal's videos about the M1917 (Colt) and M1917 (S&W) revolvers to understand the differences between the two. Each episode features an animated section that illustrates the internal workings of each revolver and how it all functions. Your host Othais narrates it all.
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 07:25 PM (BCwQW)
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Our range in VA is $35/mo, no lane fees. Guests can shoot with us for $15. Can spen as much time as e want unless it is holiday, the limited to 2 hours. There is a comfy lounge if we have to,wait to get lanes together..
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14 ... "I need a suggestion for a gun related gift. My #2 son has a reproduction Charleville musket with a 46" barrel and needs a better cleaning rod than what he is using. Does anyone have a suggestion for a good one, one piece, and maybe some other cleaning accessories?"
f'd,
Does he care about an authentic look or just something that works? (I assume the musket came with a ramrod.) If authenticity doesn't matter, check out Buffalo Arms. They offer a 48" cleaning rod made from some polymer with a 10/32 female ferrule in place. The rod is unbreakable and can flex.
Accessories: a tow worm that screws onto the cleaning rod. Wrap tow (the chaff from processing flax) as thickly as needed to scrub the barrel. Tow is the traditional way to clean a smoothbore and yes, it still works great.
Make sure he has a nipple pick to clear the flash hole from the pan to the chamber. Track of the Wolf will have them or it can be made from guitar wire strings.
continued ...
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 07:29 PM (yTvNw)
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MAE, that was interesting comment about changing grain weight on the Glock with the dot. I often switch between Fiocci 115 gr and Blazer 124 gr. Didn't think it would affect the dot.
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Range day: took my Walther P99 out and put about 50 rounds through it at typical defensive distances. Love the ergonomics of this gun.
Something weird happened lately, however. A couple of weeks ago, when I took the P99 out of the locker to look at it, I noticed a small hole in the backstrap. I pushed on it gently, and the whole backstrap crumbled. The gun is an LEO trade-in, and the grips always looked to be in good shape; however, research on the web indicated that some other people have had this trouble, too. Fortunately, I also have another P99, which I had bought new, and which had extra backstraps. The gun has always been kept in a climate-controlled environment, so I'm a little baffled.
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 07:30 PM (2L+MU)
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17 degrees and wind gusting to probably 20 mph, but nice and toasty in the hut!
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 07:30 PM (vt7xw)
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I went to the range Friday armed with an AR15, a super safety, and perhaps most importantly - the knowlege of how to use the super safety!
First the AR: a Franken-AR pistol, PSA lower with a 5.56 10.5 barrel upper that a guy I used to work with gave me. Holographic sight on top. It is, depending on how you look at it, the perfect platform for this fast semi-auto firing or the worst.
The super safety I bought at a gun show and its metal. Came with a modified trigger that works with the super safety. It did not work as it came took a little dremeling to perfect it.
And the knowledge - it is a cross bolt safety that replaces the safety lever in an AR. All the way left is safe. All the way right is semi. There is a center position which is super safe.
Oh my! I did not do more than 3 rounds in a magazine but wow it was fast. And fun! If I had been at an out door range I would be all out of 5.56.
Accuracy though...first round goes where you point it. After that not so much. And I was just shooting 3 rounds at a time.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 14, 2025 07:30 PM (RoO7G)
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42 Do remember one thing, Both Colt and S&W made 1917 models and they are drastically different inside. - whig
Now, there's something (among many things) I didn't know. Are the differences mainly related to cylinder lock-up, or leaf springs vs coil or what, exactly?
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 07:20 PM (2L+MU)
Paco, I recommend watching C&Rsenal's videos about the M1917 (Colt) and M1917 (S&W) revolvers to understand the differences between the two. Each episode features an animated section that illustrates the internal workings of each revolver and how it all functions. Your host Othais narrates it all.
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 07:25 PM (BCwQW)
Good episodes but...if you get a choice, buy the Smith and Wesson. Slightly better controls and quality.
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Now, there's something (among many things) I didn't know. Are the differences mainly related to cylinder lock-up, or leaf springs vs coil or what, exactly?
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Colt was famous for its bank vault lockup using its very old circa 1890's locking action which also incidentally was fine until you had timing issues. Basically Swiss watch where even messing up a slight bevel on something like the cylinder bolt could cause issues. The bank vault lockup was caused by hand (also called pawl) which positively locks the cylinder at the very time of firing. That is also what doing stupid things with Colts can get buggered up along with timing on them.
If you do fire a nib old timey Colt (which why would you), they often had the lockup just a tad late so it would wear into perfection.
And yes, Colts use V springs which is why they tend to stack a bit in double action (the v binds at the bottom of the valley in DA) but beautiful single action pull.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 07:31 PM (WDjG6)
51Paco, I recommend watching C&Rsenal's videos about the M1917 (Colt) and M1917 (S&W) revolvers to understand the differences between the two. Each episode features an animated section that illustrates the internal workings of each revolver and how it all functions. Your host Othais narrates it all. Ed L
Thanks, Ed. Will do
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 07:32 PM (2L+MU)
52Old F-150 is kaput so I replaced it (w another f-150). Trying to keep up with Weasel Buddy Geoff!
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 07:22 PM
I don't think you can possibly keep up with Geoff's truck.
I believe he has the Ford "Louis the XIV" edition of the F-150.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 14, 2025 07:32 PM (HlyYF)
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Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 14, 2025 07:30 PM (t/2Uw)
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The effect is greater with rifles at longer distance but any time you change ammo you should consider re-zeroing.
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 07:32 PM (vt7xw)
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 07:32 PM (2L+MU)
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So instead, go for higher tech bullets if you gotta pierce armored vests up to 500 yards. High pressure and short barrels are simply not the way to do it.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 07:23 PM (WDjG6)
YouTuber Banana Ballistics claims he got 5,100 FPS out of a 17 grain brass bullet in a necked down 5.56mm NATO case. The ballistics gel test had that bullet tumble through over a foot of get. See the link in the Battleswarm blog. Getting hit by a 17 grain projectile moving at 4,000+ FPS can't be good for you even if you have armor on. I've also seen test prototypes of fin stabilized discarding sabots being fired in 12 gauge cartridges. That would be interesting if we went back to smoothbores in order to use discarding sabot tech.
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 07:33 PM (BCwQW)
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West Coast Armory is $300 a year. Unlimited visits, no time restrictions, $20 guest fee. We’ve never had to wait for our own lanes.
We can shoot pistols or rifles (nothing crazy) up to 25 yards. Indoors, clean bathrooms. Staff recognizes us so most of the time they just wave us through.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 14, 2025 07:33 PM (mT+6a)
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45 MAE, that was interesting comment about changing grain weight on the Glock with the dot. I often switch between Fiocci 115 gr and Blazer 124 gr. Didn't think it would affect the dot.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 14, 2025 07:30 PM (t/2Uw)
For me, it made a shift in point of impact...rounds went a bit high. Brands and grain weight all make a difference. Oddly, my 124 JHP rounds and my 147 grn JHP seem to hit about the same in my PSA Micro Dagger. Which is cool.
58What are you paying to shoot, and at what frequency?
Posted by: M. Gaga at December 14, 2025 07:21 PM (KiBMU)
I've got 4 people on a family plan for $65/month indoor range we can all shoot there as often as we'd like.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 14, 2025 07:33 PM (RoO7G)
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I don't think you can possibly keep up with Geoff's truck.
I believe he has the Ford "Louis the XIV" edition of the F-150.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 14, 2025 07:32 PM (HlyYF)
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I'm not even allowed inside Geoff's truck!
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 07:34 PM (vt7xw)
Clean the barrel with plain water. Maybe add a few drops of dish soap. That's all that is needed. Make sure the barrel is dry then wipe down the bore with a tiny amount of gun oil to prevent rust. I use Rem Oil available on Amazon or any outdoor store like Cabela's/Bass Pro Shops.
I use 100 percent cotton or flannel patches for cleaning my BP guns.
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 07:34 PM (yTvNw)
61So instead, go for higher tech bullets if you gotta pierce armored vests up to 500 yards. High pressure and short barrels are simply not the way to do it.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 07:23 PM
If I had that task before me, I would prefer that the army issued me my own personal A-10 Warthog.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 14, 2025 07:35 PM (HlyYF)
"Ramrod, 7/16" synthetic Delrin almost unbreakable rod, over 50" length, brass tips, 10-32 and 8-32 threads on opposite ends Made in the U.S.A."
Posted by: fd at December 14, 2025 07:35 PM (vFG9F)
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40 21 Any thoughts about Gun Jesus' negative review of the Army's selection of the M7 as its new standard infantry rifle?
Army is running into physics and coming up with the wrong answers. Simply put, you are already at crazy high pressures with the M7 but they are thinking about getting up to 100k. Unless you line your barrels with Stellite, your barrels won't last worth a damn, likewise other components.
And I blame Sig engineers for not telling the Army straight up, you can't have a very short barrel, very high pressure, and long term reliability and durability. M4 should have taught the Army that as those carbines really accelerated wear on bolts, were harsher recoiling, etc. than the older long rifles.
So instead, go for higher tech bullets if you gotta pierce armored vests up to 500 yards. High pressure and short barrels are simply not the way to do it.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 07:23 PM (WDjG6)
Ian is correct. You can't do everything the M7 is designed to do. Barrel life is abyssmal and muzzle blast is prohibitive. Super bullet designs with existing hardware (AR 10 or AR 15) would be better, as you say. But nobody wants to be mean enough to design APHE rounds
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Paco, Walther still has replacement backstraps available for the P99. But with the P99 now out of production, who knows how long Walther will still make spares?
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 07:36 PM (BCwQW)
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Smiths are far easier to work with btw, and used a long action from the 1890's until the 1940's after WWII (Victory model mishap). The lockup is a bit looser than a Colt and the long action (aka speed hammer) was dropped with the hammer stud a bit higher on the frame to get quicker hammer time. When a hammer block was added to the locking mechanism, that required respositing the hammer and thus changing the trigger pull slightly .
The Smith mainspring looks very different than the old V mainspring of a Colt.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 07:37 PM (WDjG6)
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>>And I blame Sig engineers for not telling the Army straight up, you can't have a very short barrel, very high pressure, and long term reliability and durability. ”
Army got exactly what was in the spec. That is always the way it works. The idea all along was to field the weapon they asked for, then make improvements based on soldier feedback- and that’s already been done based on feedback from Ranger Battalion, and some first line airborne units. Overall the rifle is a solid platform and the improvements make it even better and more versatile.
Never trust someone who takes on the name of our Savior.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 14, 2025 07:37 PM (E/qck)
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I just remembered. So I'm here.
Weasel, in my browser, that $15 pistol" video has another one from the same channel, about the "$24 pistol that outlived...". I'll watch it later to see if it sillifies the $15 one, or vice versa.
Still no range time. (:
Posted by: GWB at December 14, 2025 07:37 PM (dznca)
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I've been shooting at West Coast Armory so long (decades at this point) that the idea of going somewhere where I'd have to pay by the hour seems weird.
I can see it. And I mostly am in and out in an hour with 150 or 200 rounds. But still...odd feeling.
WA is no longer a gun friendly state but it used to be and that legacy still lingers in places.
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Pop was a heck of a pistol shot. He was 2nd Amy, 45 cal slow fire champion one year. With a service pistol.
Posted by: javems at December 14, 2025 07:39 PM (8I4hW)
7150 If you do fire a nib old timey Colt (which why would you), they often had the lockup just a tad late so it would wear into perfection. - whig
The oldest Colt double-action I have is a nice, but garden variety, Police Positive manufactured in 1926 (chambered in Colt .38 New Police). Very tight lock-up.
Pretty interesting about making a gun so it would "wear into perfection"!
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 07:40 PM (2L+MU)
72What are you paying to shoot, and at what frequency?
There is a nearby 25 yard indoor range run by the state parks department that is $20/hr. I am mulling whether to get the $225/yr membership for a rifle range that goes to 600 yards but is an hour and half drive. I'm just not sure I'll be able to use it enough to be worth it.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 14, 2025 07:40 PM (3nLb4)
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"Does he care about an authentic look or just something that works? (I assume the musket came with a ramrod.) If authenticity doesn't matter, check out Buffalo Arms. "
He just needs good one piece rod. I'll check those out, and the tow worm.
Thanks for the suggestions. Maybe I just need to give him a gift certificate for Track of the Wolf.
Posted by: fd at December 14, 2025 07:41 PM (vFG9F)
74I believe he has the Ford "Louis the XIV" edition of the F-150.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 14, 2025 07:32 PM
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I'm not even allowed inside Geoff's truck!
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 07:34 PM
I was allowed in with soggy ammo boxes and muddy shoes during a brief downpour.
Apparently we may have to change his moniker to "PI Buddy Geoff"!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 14, 2025 07:41 PM (HlyYF)
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Any thoughts about Gun Jesus' negative review of the Army's selection of the M7 as its new standard infantry rifle?
The Army could have had a decent Designated Marksman Rifle, issued to just one man per squad. Instead, they are going to waste a lot of time and money on trying to make the M7 the standard rifle.
What the Army really needs is caseless or plastic rounds, but the technology for successfully fielding them remains stubbornly out of reach.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 14, 2025 07:41 PM (4mmkh)
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Apparently we may have to change his moniker to "PI Buddy Geoff"!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 14, 2025 07:41 PM (HlyYF)
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Well that's because you guys are twins!
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 07:41 PM (vt7xw)
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Been wanting to make a over the shoulder cartridge pouch for my Brown Bess, have the leather just haven't done it. But also at Dixons saw a fairly cheap one so got it. Now I see a pattern maybe can improve it. Can't hurt but at least now have one.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 07:42 PM (Ia/+0)
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Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 07:11 PM (BCwQW)
I would think 5.56 is a better choice than something over-powered for killing drones. Might be even better calibers, but I don't think the new 6.7 would be one.
Posted by: GWB at December 14, 2025 07:42 PM (dznca)
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The rest of the up north time is spent in the Adirondack wilderness where I can shoot on the property, or on any parts of the 400,000 or more wild mountain state-owned wilderness adjacent.
What are you paying to shoot, and at what frequency?
Posted by: M. Gaga at December 14, 2025 07:21 PM (KiBMU)
Here at home in Alberta, I can shoot .22, or shotgun on my own land, and nobody gives a damn about it.
When I am in AZ, I can either go out into the desert in one of several areas informally (and heavily) used as shooting ranges, or go as a guest to the range on Usery Pass road. For a small fee.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 07:42 PM (npFr7)
Posted by: Bulg at December 14, 2025 07:42 PM (77rzZ)
8164 Paco, Walther still has replacement backstraps available for the P99. But with the P99 now out of production, who knows how long Walther will still make spares? - Ed L
Thanks again, Ed. I'll look around and see what I can find. Would be a good idea to pick up one or two backstraps just to be on the safe side.
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 07:42 PM (2L+MU)
Apparently, I missed out on the "crack shot" gene!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 14, 2025 07:45 PM (HlyYF)
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I tend to shoot low left a lot but the last outing I was right on target. Now trying to remembrance which ammo I used. I really need to keep a notebook so I know which ammo is the best fit. I also use Syntechwhich I think is 130 grain. The only one I know for sure is that the Kimber 1911 likes the Fiocci 115 gr.
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Super bullet designs with existing hardware (AR 10 or AR 15) would be better, as you say. But nobody wants to be mean enough to design APHE rounds
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at December 14, 2025 07:36 PM (xcxpd)
The M855A1 (5.56mm NATO) and M80A1 (7.62mm NATO) are the leading edge for bullet tech at the moment. Both rounds use a steel tip in front of a copper slug for increased penetration power. However, they're meant to go through cover/concealment (car doors, interior walls, etc.). They aren't designed to go through Level 4 armor (IBA), though. The big downside for both is the increased pressure and resulting wear on bolts and barrels. But if Uncle is footing the bill on wholesale quantities of MILSPEC bolts and barrels, he can afford to shrug off the costs and replace those components more often.
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 07:46 PM (BCwQW)
Fee table
Member Spouse
Base Membership $125 +$25
Indoor Range +$50 +$25
Long Range +$175 +$50
Base gets you 25-300 yards, plus shotgun.
Long range gets you out to 1100.
Posted by: RI Red at December 14, 2025 07:46 PM (VWFmc)
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83 I bought WeaselAcres so I'd have my very own range!
Posted by: Weasel
Wait. I thought it was an organic tree farm!
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 14, 2025 07:46 PM (mT+6a)
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Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 14, 2025 07:45 PM (HlyYF)
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You and me both. He makes everything look easy.
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 07:47 PM (vt7xw)
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By the way, Army went to the soldiers and asked them exactly what they wanted. Then that was built into the spec. So was the HSIA once it was fielded. So the current improvements came through that process.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 14, 2025 07:47 PM (E/qck)
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Posted by: nurse ratched at December 14, 2025 07:46 PM (mT+6a)
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OTF with a range!
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 07:48 PM (vt7xw)
"Ramrod, 7/16" synthetic Delrin almost unbreakable rod, over 50" length, brass tips, 10-32 and 8-32 threads on opposite ends Made in the U.S.A."
Posted by: fd at December 14, 2025 07:35 PM (vFG9F)
I wonder if you could make one from a section of carbon fibre fishing rod or golf club shaft? Or maybe a ski pole?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 07:49 PM (npFr7)
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YouTuber Banana Ballistics claims he got 5,100 FPS out of a 17 grain brass bullet in a necked down 5.56mm NATO case. The ballistics gel test had that bullet tumble through over a foot of get. See the link in the Battleswarm blog. Getting hit by a 17 grain projectile moving at 4,000+ FPS can't be good for you even if you have armor on. I've also seen test prototypes of fin stabilized discarding sabots being fired in 12 gauge cartridges. That would be interesting if we went back to smoothbores in order to use discarding sabot tech.
Posted by: Ed L
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I read Battleswarm now and again. Good stuff there and the guy running it is squared away.
Not a material scientist but reloading and reading about proof, kablooey action reports, and other such problems leaves me very leary of very high pressures and component longevity.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 07:50 PM (WDjG6)
95A Armi San Marco reproduction of a 1860 Colt in 44 cal.
from Dixon's Muzzleoading shop in Kempton PA. I also got the bullet mold he said in .457 and yesterday cast 50 bullets but not so sure they will fit. A search for the answer is many do use the bigger bullets but it's not easy to seat them it looks.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 07:17 PM
Skip, you may already know this, but you want the balls oversize so that a ring of lead is sheared off as you ram the ball home. This helps seal the chamber (using some sealing lube is still a good idea, it helps keep fouling soft, and more importantly helps prevent chain fires), and provides more surface to engage the rifling.
Seat the ball in the chamber mouth with the 'sprue' bump from the casting vertically (i.e. out of contact with the barrel's rifling).
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 07:51 PM (0sNs1)
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Whig is obviously not in Army procurement re: Spears.
Or not sleeping with the hot sales reps sig has ro be using.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 14, 2025 07:51 PM (4Me4i)
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Didn't think it would affect the dot.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 14, 2025 07:30 PM (t/2Uw)
Well, it doesn't affect the dot. It affects the bullet. 124gr have more oomph behind them, (I think) making them shot further without dropping. So, if you zeroed your dot with 124gr, then switched to a bullet with less oomph, it will drop faster and hit lower on the same target at the same distance.
This will be less noticeable at really close range OR for those of us with less consistency to start with.
Posted by: GWB at December 14, 2025 07:52 PM (dznca)
98Wait. I thought it was an organic tree farm!
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 14, 2025 07:46 PM
Organic free-range tree farm.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 07:53 PM (0sNs1)
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Hats off to you sailor types for playing a good game of football a little bit better than the good guys.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat
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Odd way of saying Congrats to a hard fought win by Navy!
PI, I will make note of your new nic for future...
No range news this week, trying to thaw out...but checking the ranges near us in TN and the prices are way friendlier....
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I just remembered. So I'm here.
Weasel, in my browser, that $15 pistol" video has another one from the same channel, about the "$24 pistol that outlived...". I'll watch it later to see if it sillifies the $15 one, or vice versa.
Still no range time. (:
Posted by: GWB at December 14, 2025 07:37 PM (dznca)
That video, which I did watch all the way through, appears to be an AI product. The voice narration has weird halts and odd emphasis, e.g. "Smith ... and Wesson" (as though Smith, and Wesson were two distinct builders). And some stills weirdly inappropriate for the narrative content.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 07:54 PM (npFr7)
101Thanks again, Ed. I'll look around and see what I can find. Would be a good idea to pick up one or two backstraps just to be on the safe side.
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 07:42 PM
Consider some extra magazines, as well.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 07:54 PM (0sNs1)
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Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 14, 2025 07:41 PM (4mmkh)
The USN's sorry saga of the LCS, Ford-class carrier (electromagnetic catapults, anyone?) and now the Constellation class frigate, should be a cautionary tale of betting on unproven or "to be invented" technology to save the day, especially if you need it in a hurry.
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 07:54 PM (BCwQW)
103
And thank you Weasel for the flinching video...a problem that I've yet to totally banish, so will be watching that video repeatedly....
104
73 ... "He just needs good one piece rod. I'll check those out, and the tow worm.
Thanks for the suggestions. Maybe I just need to give him a gift certificate for Track of the Wolf."
f'd,
Does he have the correct size flints for the Charleville? TOTW will have them. Also, does he have real black powder? Flintlock guns don't do well with black powder substitutes. A 69 caliber gun would normally use 2F powder. NEVER USE MODERN SMOKELESS POWDER IN THESE GUNS. (Sorry if he already knows this.)
It is so great he wants to shoot traditional style black powder guns.
PS: Other accessories. An adjustable powder measure that can measure at least 100 grains of powder. And a powder flask or a spout that will screw onto the original powder container. Makes it easier to pour the powder into the measure.
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 07:55 PM (yTvNw)
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Be unafraid to ask questions about savings options at your local range.
My daughter shoots for free on Wednesdays at our local range because it is Lady's Day. (One of the female instructors told her about it.)
I believe she just has to buy their targets at $3 each. I think she usually warms up with one and then shoots serious on a second target.
They also have shooting leagues that are free for members and you can meet some excellent shots and/or make new friends.
They even do group or party events. The price is a little steep, because I suspect most people do that on a packed Saturday afternoon. If you want to shoot cheap with family, maybe ask one of the owners about their most common dead time, and make an offer to buy a lane then with a group. You might get a great rate if the owner understands marginal costs.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 14, 2025 07:56 PM (HlyYF)
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What a soldier wants: A "Hammer's Slammers" powergun with crew-served lasers for support.
What a soldier would settle for: Keeping the M4 for up close and personal action while getting a buttload of man-packable mini-drones for long range work.
What a soldier gets: The M7 rifle.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 14, 2025 07:57 PM (4mmkh)
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Tree farms need tending. And defending. From tree rustlers. A range is just another necessary expense, like tractors and F-150s.
Posted by: fd at December 14, 2025 07:57 PM (vFG9F)
10883 I bought WeaselAcres so I'd have my very own range!
Posted by: Weasel
I had a chance to do that, and could kick myself for not doing so. There was a 40-acre property on the delightfully-named Booger Hollar Road in Stanly County, North Carolina, which would have not only made it possible for me to shoot on my own private range, but to put on airs by telling everybody "I'm Paco, of the Booger Hollar Pacos". There's even a ghost story connected to a nearby creek.
Wound up on the coast, however; better air for Mrs. Paco's asthma, the doctor said.
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 07:57 PM (2L+MU)
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Weasel, have you discussed the likely possibility of charging the F-150's battery on the kitchen counter with WW yet?
Sometimes it's better to socialize issues before need.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 07:57 PM (0sNs1)
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The oldest Colt double-action I have is a nice, but garden variety, Police Positive manufactured in 1926 (chambered in Colt .38 New Police). Very tight lock-up.
Pretty interesting about making a gun so it would "wear into perfection"!
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I like old Colts and have several of them. That being said, there are relatively few gunsmiths that can work on them nowadays compared to a lot of folks that can work on Smiths, even back to the 1890's. Frank Glenn in Phoenix AZ is the top guru for this. Interarms has entered the field (they also do old High Standards), and I think Cylinder and Slide in Nebraska. A few others around but a dying breed. More gunsmiths work on the old Colt Single Action Army as that action is simpler to do. Few if any work on Colt Lightnings which is the transition double action revolver before the 1890's newer Colt actions.
Colt Lightnings are fragile and must be treated with care if you plan on firing them.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 07:59 PM (WDjG6)
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Posted by: fd at December 14, 2025 07:57 PM (vFG9F)
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Yes. To the untrained eye, organic tree farming looks like sitting around and goofing off and smoking cigars.
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 07:59 PM (vt7xw)
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If I had that task before me, I would prefer that the army issued me my own personal A-10 Warthog.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 14, 2025 07:35 PM (HlyYF)
You don't need the whole warthog. Just the part that goes BRRRRRRT!
Though the part with wings makes it a lot funnier to use the other part.
Posted by: GWB at December 14, 2025 07:59 PM (dznca)
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What a soldier gets: The M7 rifle.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 14, 2025 07:57 PM (4mmkh)
Well, the soldier did not get to sleep with the hot Sig rep.
I ASSUME there was chicanery here (considering the number of contracts Sig seemed to get all at once.) Getting laid is more understandable than taking a
massive bribe. But they probably took a massive bribe.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 14, 2025 08:00 PM (4Me4i)
114101 Consider some extra magazines, as well. - Duncanthrax
Oh, I have done that, brother, for sure! I believe I have half a dozen or more, between the two pistols. Guess it wouldn't hurt, though, to buy a few more.
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 08:00 PM (2L+MU)
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Tree farms need tending. And defending. From tree rustlers. A range is just another necessary expense, like tractors and F-150s.
Posted by: fd at December 14, 2025 07:57 PM (vFG9F)
And you have to be ready to ruthlessly shoot the ringleaders, should they stampede.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 08:00 PM (npFr7)
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Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 07:57 PM (0sNs1)
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I've worked diligently over the years to manage her expectations!
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 08:01 PM (vt7xw)
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Thanks JTB. He has a flask and even a uniform to go with the Charleville. The boy is into it.
Posted by: fd at December 14, 2025 08:01 PM (vFG9F)
118Posted by: RI Red at December 14, 2025 07:46 PM
Once I'm permanently in NH, I'll have to become a member.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 14, 2025 08:01 PM (Wnv9h)
119
Watch guntubers with super safeties or FRTs. They go to great pains to point out that they are shooting semi-auto. That is mainly due to the youtube monetization thing.
It is also winking at the law, kind of like our frequent canoe accidents. Or pistol braces.
At some point, the ATF is going to say, no, you cannot have nice things. Like with pistol braces (yes, they are back now - provisionally) and bump stocks.
We've had some incredible victories on the 2A front in the courts and with the administration's approach. But I am not sanguine for the future.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 14, 2025 08:01 PM (RoO7G)
120The M855A1 (5.56mm NATO) and M80A1 (7.62mm NATO) are the leading edge for bullet tech at the moment. Both rounds use a steel tip in front of a copper slug for increased penetration power. However, they're meant to go through cover/concealment (car doors, interior walls, etc.). They aren't designed to go through Level 4 armor (IBA), though. The big downside for both is the increased pressure and resulting wear on bolts and barrels. But if Uncle is footing the bill on wholesale quantities of MILSPEC bolts and barrels, he can afford to shrug off the costs and replace those components more often.
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 07:46 PM
I saw a video recently of a guy shooting that kind of stuff at some old Warsaw Pact APC armor. It made some dents, and may have spalled off a little material on the inside.
He then shot is with a 9 mm steel sabot round from his Glock. It punch a small hole clean through the plate.
If the video was not faked, then that bit of technology is an excellent starting point for defeating enemy body armor with better bullet technology, rather than chamber pressures.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 14, 2025 08:01 PM (HlyYF)
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Grateful and Sharon, I was thinking about last week’s conversation.
Would a basic “AR 15 for beginners” be a better choice? I guarantee we can get you out to 300 effectively, with emphasis on closer ranges for the real world.
I think every patriot should have a working knowledge of the AR platform (and should own one).
If you want to do long range, it really should be after AR qualification.
Posted by: RI Red at December 14, 2025 08:02 PM (bxySM)
122110 Few if any work on Colt Lightnings which is the transition double action revolver before the 1890's newer Colt actions. - whig
Isn't that the one that was referred to as "the gunsmith's favorite" because the mechanism was prone to breakage?
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 08:02 PM (2L+MU)
123Oh, I have done that, brother, for sure! I believe I have half a dozen or more, between the two pistols. Guess it wouldn't hurt, though, to buy a few more.
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 08:00 PM
Especially foreign no-longer-manufactured magazines.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 08:02 PM (0sNs1)
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Need those pointy cop killer bullets from Lethal Weapon 3.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 14, 2025 08:03 PM (4Me4i)
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 08:04 PM (sDNVV)
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I just remembered, it was not a 9mm bullet (regarding the sabot round).
He changed out the barrel on his Glock, and the cartridge he fired was necked down a little.
I apologize for adding my two cents and not even giving useful details.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 14, 2025 08:04 PM (HlyYF)
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Duncanthrax yeah I take that from reading forums since noon yesterday after I made 50 bullets and thought no way will they fit.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 08:05 PM (Ia/+0)
130
Daily Mail had a headline about the Brown University gunman and his "laser-reinforced rifle".
Is this the next-generation of "the thing that goes up"?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 08:06 PM (0sNs1)
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OK. I saw the Highguard trailer. It is a woke mess, but one thing I thought funny, yet captivating.
So this guy has a long rifle of some sort, he reloads by shoving a magazine into the side of the rifle. Like an FG-42. But he shoved it into the right side. Which seems retarded even on top of everything else. Either the casings would eject then downwards, straight up somehow, or directly into the guy shooting the gun.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 14, 2025 08:06 PM (4Me4i)
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Daily Mail had a headline about the Brown University gunman and his "laser-reinforced rifle".
Is this the next-generation of "the thing that goes up"?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 08:06 PM (0sNs1)
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I saw that. Extra skerry!
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 08:07 PM (vt7xw)
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Well, it doesn't affect the dot. It affects the bullet. 124gr have more oomph behind them, (I think) making them shot further without dropping. So, if you zeroed your dot with 124gr, then switched to a bullet with less oomph, it will drop faster and hit lower on the same target at the same distance.
Accchshully, with pistols at pistol range, lighter bullets with higher velocity hit lower on the target because they spend less time in the barrel while the pistol muzzle is climbing upwards during recoil.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 14, 2025 08:07 PM (4mmkh)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 14, 2025 08:07 PM (4Me4i)
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So, considering Ass, I am guessing the shooter is a middle eastern guy?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 14, 2025 08:08 PM (4Me4i)
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We've had some incredible victories on the 2A front in the courts and with the administration's approach. But I am not sanguine for the future.
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Eh, we can only fight the battles of our day. But people lusting after full auto and then trying every way to emulate it are going to be disappointed.
I am pretty sure that Scotus is not going to tell Fedgov/ATF that they cannot regulate full auto machine guns and likewise any attempts to get around that bar via tech tricks because of ATF latitude even now in regulations.
There is also no appetite in Congress to legalized machine guns for everyone despite teh fact that cartels or criminals don't give one shit about it and the restrictions really only affect law abiding citizens.
Intellectually, the 2A absolutist have a point but in the nitty gritty of political realism--ain't gonna happen. Take teh silencers and SBRs having their tax set to zero as a marginal victory. We might get registration killed on silencers if not SBRs soon as they become mainstream and depreciate the stupid Hollywood beliefs of phut, phut, phut on high powered rifles.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 08:09 PM (WDjG6)
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Colt was famous for its bank vault lockup using its very old circa 1890's locking action which also incidentally was fine until you had timing issues. Basically Swiss watch where even messing up a slight bevel on something like the cylinder bolt could cause issues. The bank vault lockup was caused by hand (also called pawl) which positively locks the cylinder at the very time of firing. That is also what doing stupid things with Colts can get buggered up along with timing on them.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 07:31 PM (WDjG6)
I picked up a 1914 Colt New Service in .45 Colt at the end of last month. I put two cylinders through it after cleaning it up. The finish is almost all gone, but that cylinder still has that "bank vault" lockup 111 years after it came off the line at the Hartford factory.
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 08:09 PM (BCwQW)
138You don't need the whole warthog. Just the part that goes BRRRRRRT!
Posted by: GWB at December 14, 2025 07:59 PM
I agree that is the only part I really need.
However, I have missed "arm day" enough times at the gym over that last few years that I am no longer capable of carrying the 30 mm GAU-8 Avenger rotary autocannon for extended periods of time in the field.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 14, 2025 08:09 PM (HlyYF)
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RI Red, a shotgun is more viable than an AR.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 08:04 PM (sDNVV)
Certainly, out to about 40 yards.
But limited magazine capacity and more recoil than most small adults like.
Different tools for different jobs.
Posted by: RI Red at December 14, 2025 08:10 PM (bxySM)
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Isn't that the one that was referred to as "the gunsmith's favorite" because the mechanism was prone to breakage?
Posted by: Paco
Even back in the day that was true. Now the parts are unobtanium and you either need another to rob parts from or a gunsmith talented enought to actually make replacement parts and fit them to the particular firearm.
Colts always back in the day were hand fitted and that means something a used part from another revolver won't fit yours without fitting or doing some voodoo build up and file down things.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 08:11 PM (WDjG6)
141 Duncanthrax yeah I take that from reading forums since noon yesterday after I made 50 bullets and thought no way will they fit.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 08:05 PM
.457" might actually be a little small, depending on your cylinder's chamber size(s), but it's a good place to start.
You can use Crisco for a sealant on top of the bullet to get started. I'm sure there are commercial products that are better. It's been some years since I shot any BP revolvers.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 08:11 PM (0sNs1)
142123 Especially foreign no-longer-manufactured magazines. - Duncanthrax
You know, I'm kind of wondering about that. Walther came out with what it called the "Final Edition" of the P99 in 2023 (that's the "new one" I referred to), but you still see them selling new, everywhere. Did Walther really just have a huge last manufacturing run and is the company selling from that inventory, or is it secretly continuing to make them because the Final Edition is a good marketing scheme?
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 08:12 PM (2L+MU)
143I saw a video recently of a guy shooting that kind of stuff at some old Warsaw Pact APC armor. It made some dents, and may have spalled off a little material on the inside.
He then shot is with a 9 mm steel sabot round from his Glock. It punch a small hole clean through the plate.
That would be Ian McCollum the aforementioned "Gun Jesus."
https://youtu.be/90ECrL_4GPc
Posted by: Oddbob at December 14, 2025 08:12 PM (3nLb4)
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121 Would a basic “AR 15 for beginners” be a better choice?
Posted by: RI Red at December 14, 2025 08:02 PM
127 RI Red, a shotgun is more viable than an AR.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 08:04 PM
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I have been given permission to speak on behalf of Grateful - yes, BOTH please. Thank you!
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128 I just remembered, it was not a 9mm bullet (regarding the sabot round).
He changed out the barrel on his Glock, and the cartridge he fired was necked down a little.
I apologize for adding my two cents and not even giving useful details.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 14, 2025 08:04 PM (HlyYF)
PI, you can swap out a 9 mm barrel for .357 Sig. It’s a necked-down .40 cartridge shooting a .355” round at up to 1500 fps.
Designed for penetration of car bodies. Probably effective on some body armor.
Posted by: RI Red at December 14, 2025 08:14 PM (bxySM)
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CNN expert on the gun used by the Brown University shooter.
https://is.gd/npBk3k
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 08:14 PM (L/fGl)
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RI Red, most people on a high stress situation couldn't hit the broad side of a barn at 5 yards.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 08:15 PM (sDNVV)
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Cigars? LOL. Some golf friends fire one up. I love the aroma.
The last thing I need is another vice and addiction.
But I love cigars.
Posted by: no one at December 14, 2025 08:15 PM (W7XSX)
149So, considering Ass, I am guessing the shooter is a middle eastern guy?
Doesn't sound like it. From Powerline:
SUSPECT IDENTIFIED: The person under arrest has now been identified as Benjamin Erickson, 24, of Wisconsin. He is reported to have an extensive mental health history, but what led him to commit murder at Brown is still unknown.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 14, 2025 08:16 PM (3nLb4)
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I'm sure this was discussed on other threads, and I'm going to touch on a part that is more than adjacent to guns.
The hero at the Bondi Beach shooting did NOT shoot the guy when he took the bad guy's rifle away. Some think he didn't have the mindset to shoot him, but others have wondered if he didn't know how to operate a bolt action rifle. He attacks immediately after the bad guy fires, and before he could operate the bolt, so there's an expended round in the chamber (I think). So, pulling the trigger will do nothing. And I do not believe I saw the hero operate bolt. So he's holding, as someone said, "an awkward club."
How many folks would be even LESS familiar with operating a bolt action than a semi-automatic with a manual safety?
Posted by: GWB at December 14, 2025 08:16 PM (dznca)
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Though the part with wings makes it a lot funnier to use the other part.
Posted by: GWB at December 14, 2025 07:59 PM (dznca)
"Funner"! Damn you, auto-cucumber!
Posted by: GWB at December 14, 2025 08:17 PM (dznca)
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I picked up a 1914 Colt New Service in .45 Colt at the end of last month. I put two cylinders through it after cleaning it up. The finish is almost all gone, but that cylinder still has that "bank vault" lockup 111 years after it came off the line at the Hartford factory.
Posted by: Ed L
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If you look around on firearms forum archives for a guy named Old Fuff, he has a revolver guide that was widely distributed from Usenet days that is excellent for steps in checking the action.
On old D/A Colts, make sure that you do the full trigger pull (none of that link catching bullshit used on semi autos) and a full return. You can actually skip a Colt out of time a bit if you try to trick the trigger. The New Service is so large that the V Spring does not have the bind that the smaller Official Police/Python Old Model do and those don't have the bind (causing stacking) that the Police Positive do because of teh size and geometry of the V Spring.
An unappreciated collectible in teh New Service is their Shooting Masters which simply don't have the collector interest that the snake guns nor the registered magnums/Triple Lock do for S&W.
Well worth obtaining.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 08:17 PM (WDjG6)
153Certainly, out to about 40 yards.
But limited magazine capacity and more recoil than most small adults like.
Different tools for different jobs.
Posted by: RI Red at December 14, 2025 08:10 PM
Slugs can be good to 50-60 yards. Louis Awerbuck could take them out to 100 or so, but his shotgun skills were exceptional.
That's with a smoothbore and rifled slugs. Why slugs for smoothbores are yclept "rifled" is a question I've always had.
For slugs made for rifled barrels, and with a good shotgun (Savage 212 and 220 are the only reasonable good choices for such), 150 to 200 yards are not at all unreasonable.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 08:18 PM (0sNs1)
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Isn't that the one that was referred to as "the gunsmith's favorite" because the mechanism was prone to breakage?
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 08:02 PM (2L+MU)
That might be the Colt New Army, the .38 Long Colt replacement for the SAA that didn't fare well in the minds of soldiers serving in the Philippines taking on the Moros. It's the only Colt revolver I know of that rotates counterclockwise. C&Rsenal explains in their episode about the New Army why that was problematic and why this, more so than the .38 Long Colt cartridge, paved the way for the New Army's ultimate replacement with the M1911.
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 08:18 PM (BCwQW)
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Dang it, I forgot I had a Gun Thread question.
The safety on my Savage 110 Tactical is frozen in the "fire" position. It sits in a little depression behind the bolt. Unless there is some odd mechanical failure, I suspect I got a bit of moisture in there?
(I did have it out last year for deer season during "frost forming" conditions. I wiped it down with No. 9 and put it away for the year.)
I have been putting a little Hoppe's on it, but have not yet been able to free the safety switch.
If it was a common household item, I would give it a mild rap with a punch at this point. However, I don't know what delicate parts it is connected to, so want to avoid my typical brutish repairs.
Any advice from the Morons?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 14, 2025 08:18 PM (HlyYF)
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Diogenes, not just a great cigar review but timely. That stick is on my to-try list. Have enjoyed many others from the R&j line but that one remains to be experienced.
Just finished another basic reliable cigar, a Brick House habano, on the porch. Rest of thread will have to wait while I get the mushroom gravy started.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 14, 2025 08:18 PM (w3KHJ)
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And you have to be ready to ruthlessly shoot the ringleaders, should they stampede.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 08:00 PM (npFr7)
Probably the larches. It's always the quiet ones.
Posted by: GWB at December 14, 2025 08:19 PM (dznca)
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You know, I'm kind of wondering about that. Walther came out with what it called the "Final Edition" of the P99 in 2023 (that's the "new one" I referred to), but you still see them selling new, everywhere. Did Walther really just have a huge last manufacturing run and is the company selling from that inventory, or is it secretly continuing to make them because the Final Edition is a good marketing scheme?
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Probably until parts run out including some police/etc contracts. P99 had a good run. Underappreciated firearm.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 08:19 PM (WDjG6)
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OK!
ARs are a hoot to shoot.
Weasel, RMBS, Scoobs, CBD, please take note for the Spring!
Posted by: RI Red at December 14, 2025 08:19 PM (bxySM)
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I am old enough to know how to operate a bolt action rifle.
Someone half my age, considering today's lower standards of education?
LOL
Posted by: no one at December 14, 2025 08:20 PM (W7XSX)
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Walthers are generally underappreciated. H&Ks even more so.
As that Sham-Wow pitchman said, "Those Germans, you know they make good stuff."
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 08:21 PM (0sNs1)
I have, to this day, a sweatshirt like that. It used to fit me…until I went from 5’3’’ to 5’10’’ In very short order on my way to 6’1”.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 14, 2025 08:21 PM (4786I)
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You know, I'm kind of wondering about that. Walther came out with what it called the "Final Edition" of the P99 in 2023 (that's the "new one" I referred to), but you still see them selling new, everywhere. Did Walther really just have a huge last manufacturing run and is the company selling from that inventory, or is it secretly continuing to make them because the Final Edition is a good marketing scheme?
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 08:12 PM (2L+MU)
The P99 was (and still is) adopted extensively in Europe as a police and military sidearm. Walther said that they'll continue to support their government and military customers for the P99, but commercial sales are ending.
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 08:21 PM (BCwQW)
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That might be the Colt New Army, the .38 Long Colt replacement for the SAA that didn't fare well in the minds of soldiers serving in the Philippines taking on the Moros. It's the only Colt revolver I know of that rotates counterclockwise. C&Rsenal explains in their episode about the New Army why that was problematic and why this, more so than the .38 Long Colt cartridge, paved the way for the New Army's ultimate replacement with the M1911.
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Nope, it is the Lightning. A generation earlier firearm. The New Army was of the later 1890's era locking mechanism that was derived from lessons learned from parts breakage on the Lightnings.
The 38 Long Colt was just an anemic round, archaic even then heeled bullets, and was not the short range killer for nasty guerilla wars.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 08:22 PM (WDjG6)
165He then shot it with a 9 mm steel sabot round from his Glock. It punched a small hole clean through the plate.
That would be Ian McCollum the aforementioned "Gun Jesus."
https://youtu.be/90ECrL_4GPc
Posted by: Oddbob at December 14, 2025 08:12 PM
Thanks Oddbob, I had watched a snippet from the video that you linked.
If anyone is interested, that video is an impressive example of the benefits of using sabot rounds.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 14, 2025 08:22 PM (HlyYF)
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I have an AR and a shotgun sitting arms length. If .a situation arises that I need to check I'm taking the shotgun.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 08:22 PM (sDNVV)
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I like understanding what I am shooting so yes. I have had some experience and can shoot 200 yds without a problem. I shoot better seared and stable. Have never shot prone. My limits experience with a shotgun resulted in a sore shoulder.
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Accchshully, with pistols at pistol range, lighter bullets with higher velocity hit lower on the target because they spend less time in the barrel while the pistol muzzle is climbing upwards during recoil.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 14, 2025 08:07 PM (4mmkh)
Thank you. I couldn't remember which way it would trend.
Posted by: GWB at December 14, 2025 08:24 PM (dznca)
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161 Walthers are generally underappreciated. H&Ks even more so.
As that Sham-Wow pitchman said, "Those Germans, you know they make good stuff."
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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They make some lousy firearms too just like other countries (lot of Saturday Night Special RG revolvers around). Beretta and Benelli also made good firearms (and some lousy ones) along the way despite the general attitude toward Italian manufacturing.
Firearms with a military/police pedigree are always more likely to work okay because if not, they are short lived (Colt All American 2000 anyone?).
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 08:26 PM (WDjG6)
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An unappreciated collectible in teh New Service is their Shooting Masters which simply don't have the collector interest that the snake guns nor the registered magnums/Triple Lock do for S&W.
Well worth obtaining.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 08:17 PM (WDjG6)
Thanks for the tips, whig. I tried to make sure I pulled the trigger all the way back and let it come forward again when shot my test rounds through that New Service.
I've seen a Shooting Master in person only once over the years I've gone to Chantilly. Someone else snapped it up before I could make up my mind whether to buy or not.
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 08:26 PM (BCwQW)
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147 RI Red, most people on a high stress situation couldn't hit the broad side of a barn at 5 yards.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 08:15 PM (sDNVV)
Agreed. But if you practice a lot, the muscle memory and manual of arms will stay with you and make your reaction just a little bit better.
You don’t want to be pulling out a shotgun or an AR in a high stress situation, having not been to the range in 6 months.
Practice practice, practice, fundamentals, fundamentals, fundamentals.
Posted by: RI Red at December 14, 2025 08:27 PM (bxySM)
172158 Probably until parts run out including some police/etc contracts. P99 had a good run. Underappreciated firearm. - whig
I love mine. Feels good in the hand, shoots straight, and I have never had a jam or failure to feed or eject. Disassembles very easily. Wonderful trigger, and I like the magazine release paddles or switches or whatever you call them on either side of the trigger guard. Like the decocker, too.
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 08:27 PM (2L+MU)
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Skip,
The suggested ball size for the Armi San Marco 1860 Colt is usually .454. The .457 will work but might be a little harder to ram home. Crisco or any shortening without salt can be used to seal the chamber mouth but there are plenty of other products out there designed for that. I don't do that but use wads punched from heavy felt. I soak them in a mix of beeswax and sheep tallow and let them dry on wax paper. I load the powder, the wad, then the ball on top of the wad. It works well. It's an extra step to prepare them but makes loading faster and easier and avoids some of the mess. BTW, the wads are .457". I have a smaller punch for the 36 caliber percussion revolvers.
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 08:28 PM (yTvNw)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
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Find yourself some Kroil and apply it try the safety, try a little more, try the safety. Let it sit for a day, do it some more. PB blaster is almost as good but messier. Both stink from solvents used-different odors but both stink.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 08:28 PM (WDjG6)
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Weasel, RMBS, Scoobs, CBD, please take note for the Spring!
Posted by: RI Red at December 14, 2025 08:19 PM (bxySM)
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Remind me closer to spring but I have a target AR setup. It's featured in one of the vids I made.
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 08:29 PM (cIOlQ)
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RI Red, most people on a high stress situation couldn't hit the broad side of a barn at 5 yards.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 08:15 PM (sDNVV)
Heh...I have had range days when I couldn't hit the broadside of a barn with zero stress!
177OK!
ARs are a hoot to shoot.
Weasel, RMBS, Scoobs, CBD, please take note for the Spring!
Posted by: RI Red at December 14, 2025 08:19 PM
Will bring my A2 as well as my 110 EP.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 14, 2025 08:30 PM (Wnv9h)
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but what led him to commit murder at Brown is still unknown.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 14, 2025 08:16 PM (3nLb4)
Because the fact it's Hannukah and the classroom was some kind of Jewish Studies class is entirely not related, at all. We may never know.
Posted by: GWB at December 14, 2025 08:30 PM (dznca)
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I have an AR and a shotgun sitting arms length. If a situation arises that I need to check I'm taking the shotgun.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 08:22 PM
Yay! The Shotgun versus AR-15 debate! Short range! Limited capacity! Overpenetration with "green tip" ammo indoors! Excessive recoil! Less filling! Tastes great!
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 14, 2025 08:30 PM (4mmkh)
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OK, I am back...(dinner has been served)...I have shot an AR-15 once, but never a shotgun...I am very interested in shooting both, AND learning how both work and how to clean them. I can't own something that I don't understand how it works, and can't clean myself.
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My limits experience with a shotgun resulted in a sore shoulder.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 14, 2025 08:22 PM (t/2Uw)
Sharon, did you shoot my Benelli M4? That's the softest recoiling shotgun I've ever fired. The Remington 870s and Winchester Model 12's I fired in the service really punched you in the shoulder when you fired GI 00 buckshot.
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 08:31 PM (BCwQW)
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Follow on to comment 173 ...
I use those same lubed wads under the bullets when loading black powder cartridges for 38 specials, 45 Colt, and 45-70.
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 08:31 PM (yTvNw)
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ARs are a hoot to shoot.
Posted by: RI Red at December 14, 2025 08:19 PM (bxySM)
They are indeed!
I think they are designed extremely well in terms of their ergonomics. That helps tremendously with newer shooters.
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A survey, Who here has fired on persons doing a B&E?
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 08:32 PM (sDNVV)
185169 Beretta and Benelli also made good firearms (and some lousy ones) along the way despite the general attitude toward Italian manufacturing. -
Italians make beautiful things: hats, suits, cars and guns (and actresses, too).
I only have a couple of Beretta pistols: an 81 Cheetah in .32 ACP, and an 84F in .380. Both are police surplus (the latter was, I believe, imported into the U.S. from Israel). They function very well, and they just look so elegant.
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 08:33 PM (2L+MU)
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You don’t want to be pulling out a shotgun or an AR in a high stress situation, having not been to the range in 6 months.
Practice practice, practice, fundamentals, fundamentals, fundamentals.
Posted by: RI Red at December 14, 2025 08:27 PM
A couple of months ago I saw a "Police Pursuits" video where the cops were surrounding a stopped car. One of the cops was covering the car with his AR. Too bad he had forgotten to put a magazine in it.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 14, 2025 08:33 PM (4mmkh)
187I only have a couple of Beretta pistols: an 81 Cheetah in .32 ACP, and an 84F in .380. Both are police surplus (the latter was, I believe, imported into the U.S. from Israel). They function very well, and they just look so elegant.
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 08:33 PM (2L+MU)
I like the fact that Beretta is the oldest firearms maker in business. Since the 1500s!
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 14, 2025 08:35 PM (RoO7G)
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Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 14, 2025 08:30 PM (IQ6Gq)
Grateful, I'll be happy to lend you examples of both to try if you want.
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 08:36 PM (BCwQW)
189184 A survey, Who here has fired on persons doing a B&E? - Ben Had
Closest I ever came was when I was renting a condo in Miami from a friend. A couple of hours after I went to bed, I woke up for some reason, and noticed what I took to be a shadowy figure moving by the door. I slowly reached over to the night table, took my Ruger Police Service Six in hand - and, at the last second, noticed that I was getting ready to shoot my pants (I had washed them and thrown them over the door to dry, and a floor fan was making the legs move).
So, I guess that's a long way of saying, no, I haven't fired at anybody in a B&E situation.
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 08:40 PM (2L+MU)
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Question. Remember a few weeks ago, we were talking about the rubber bullets to be used with primer only and someone posted a link? Anybody remember where that was?
Posted by: Oddbob at December 14, 2025 08:40 PM (3nLb4)
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Ed, maybe? Probably? The only one that I remember vividly is one of Blastr's that put a bruise on my bicep.For the most part I have not had a problem with recoil long range shooting. I like the stability of having something nestled into my shoulder.. it is why the first gun I fell in love with was a 22 pump action that I could shoot standing up.But I am always open to new experiences as you well know and always willing to try something new.
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@146 OK, the CNN 'expert' is scandalously confused about laser sights. But I happen to notice, a whole bunch of the critics making fun of him confuse laser sights with red dot sights, and they sure are not the same thing at all. So there is some half-cocking going on across the board.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 14, 2025 08:41 PM (zdLoL)
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 08:41 PM (sDNVV)
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Years ago I read a recommendation on the best shotgun for home defense. Get a 20 gauge autoloader.
20 gauge, for less recoil. Autoloader, so you don't have to remember to pump it for a second shot.
Plus load it with ammo from a box that has pictures of doves and bunnies on it, to ward off after-action accusations that you are a bloody-thirsty Rambo type.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 14, 2025 08:42 PM (4mmkh)
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but what led him to commit murder at Brown is still unknown.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 14, 2025 08:16 PM (3nLb4)
Because the fact it's Hannukah and the classroom was some kind of Jewish Studies class is entirely not related, at all. We may never know.
Posted by: GWB at December 14, 2025 08:30 PM (dznca)
Leftism, Furry-ism, and tranny-ism are all mental illnesses. As is islam.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 08:42 PM (npFr7)
196187 I like the fact that Beretta is the oldest firearms maker in business. Since the 1500s! - blaster
It would be nice to have something from those days to take out to the range; would be quite a conversation piece!
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 08:42 PM (2L+MU)
197188 Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 14, 2025 08:30 PM (IQ6Gq)
Grateful, I'll be happy to lend you examples of both to try if you want.
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 08:36 PM (BCwQW)
12 ga pump is quite brutal. It bruises MY shoulder. Not that I am some kind of tough guy but I know what to expect.
The M4 Benelli as Ed says is much easier to shoot. Semi-auto action takes up a lot of the recoil.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 14, 2025 08:42 PM (RoO7G)
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184 A survey, Who here has fired on persons doing a B&E?
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 08:32 PM (sDNVV)
Ben Had, I have not had the “opportunity”. It may have something to do with my driveway signage: “If you can read this sign, you are in range.”
But seriously, when you had your incident, did you shoot to dissuade, or to stop?
Posted by: RI Red at December 14, 2025 08:43 PM (bxySM)
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Handguns are good for handgun stuff. Rifles are good for rifle stuff. Shotguns are good for shotgun stuff.
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 08:44 PM (+OnsA)
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 08:45 PM (jH5TK)
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180 ... ".I have shot an AR-15 once, but never a shotgun...I am very interested in shooting both, AND learning how both work and how to clean them. I can't own something that I don't understand how it works, and can't clean myself."
Grateful,
A suggestion. Unless you need a twelve gauge for a specific purpose, look at a twenty gauge. The mechanics and cleaning are the same for both but the twenty is a lighter load with a lot less recoil. And if it would be for sport, like trap or skeet, consider a recoil pad on the butt of the gun or as part of a shooting vest. Makes things a lot more comfortable.
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 08:45 PM (yTvNw)
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194 Years ago I read a recommendation on the best shotgun for home defense. Get a 20 gauge autoloader.
20 gauge, for less recoil. Autoloader, so you don't have to remember to pump it for a second shot.
Plus load it with ammo from a box that has pictures of doves and bunnies on it, to ward off after-action accusations that you are a bloody-thirsty Rambo type.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
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Only if you maintain them. Pump actions function with little maintenance; same is not true for semi autos designed for sporting uses. The recoil inertia Benelli system though works but you don't get the recoil assistance. So does Browning's long action in his Auto 5 design, but again, changes the impulse of the recoil rather than reducing it and you have to set the friction rings correctly for whatever load you fire.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 08:45 PM (WDjG6)
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Mentioned last week that a couple of new gubs followed me home...
My first ever 9mm - full size Echelon w/green dot. Fits my clunky mitts very well, and it is a real joy to shoot. Cleaned and oiled, then put about 100 rounds downrange. Stripped, cleaned, oiled again... I'll need more practice.
Posted by: man at December 14, 2025 08:46 PM (XuXeR)
204199 Handguns are good for handgun stuff. Rifles are good for rifle stuff. Shotguns are good for shotgun stuff.
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 08:44 PM (+OnsA)
There is lead in weasel's words.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 14, 2025 08:46 PM (RoO7G)
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RI Red, I shot to let them know that this wasn't an easy target. My attorney friend met up with them after the incident and they mentioned being fired upon. Scared them shitless.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 08:46 PM (sDNVV)
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Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 14, 2025 08:41 PM (t/2Uw)
I think it was at ESS before they closed. I remember SRA Blaster mag dumping five rounds downrange with that Benelli M4 and hammering the target w/ all of those rounds (slugs). So these weren't wimpy birdshot loads. SRA Blaster said the Benelli was the only shotgun she felt comfortable with.
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 08:47 PM (BCwQW)
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From NY Post about the psychopath who committed murder at Brown University.
"A revolver — and a small handgun equipped with a special laser light — were found in Erickson’s hotel room, according to sources and CNN. Sources told The Post that the unique laser light on his handgun helped lead them to the person of interest."
What could be so unique about a laser light that could be used to as a lead here?
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions at December 14, 2025 08:47 PM (uv8gn)
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201/ We need to meet in the new year to have a chat, if you are willing...
209I think it was at ESS before they closed. I remember SRA Blaster mag dumping five rounds downrange with that Benelli M4 and hammering the target w/ all of those rounds (slugs). So these weren't wimpy birdshot loads. SRA Blaster said the Benelli was the only shotgun she felt comfortable with.
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 08:47 PM (BCwQW)
The M590 we only have one of. There's a reason for that.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 14, 2025 08:48 PM (RoO7G)
210Handguns are good for handgun stuff. Rifles are good for rifle stuff. Shotguns are good for shotgun stuff.
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 08:44 PM
^^^ This is wisdom.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 14, 2025 08:48 PM (Wnv9h)
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A suggestion. Unless you need a twelve gauge for a specific purpose, look at a twenty gauge. The mechanics and cleaning are the same for both but the twenty is a lighter load with a lot less recoil. And if it would be for sport, like trap or skeet, consider a recoil pad on the butt of the gun or as part of a shooting vest. Makes things a lot more comfortable.
Posted by: JTB
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A 20 gauge in a youth stock is about right if you have body armor at home or use a Past recoil pad shield jobbie in the field over your clothes. Plus easier to have one shotgun for the whole household including youths and females.
FWIW, a 20 gauge is equivalent in ft lbs of two 44 Magnum rounds going off at the same time.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 08:49 PM (WDjG6)
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It would be nice to have something from those days to take out to the range; would be quite a conversation piece!
Posted by: Paco
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A lighted slow match (match lock) or a wheel lock throwing off sparks would get you attention for sure.
But ouch, those stocks are not exactly ergonomic.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 08:51 PM (WDjG6)
213 What could be so unique about a laser light that could be used to as a lead here?
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
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Most are green or red, but spitballing, maybe blue?
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 08:53 PM (WDjG6)
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RI Red, honestly the 3 180 lb Wolfhounds try ing to eat them probably scared them more than anything .
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 08:53 PM (sDNVV)
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I seriously need an ammo and rifles for dummies book.....
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This is my “general” point. As soon as shotguns are mentioned, recoil avoidance comes up. With an AR it is not an issue.
It’s the old question: If I could have only one gun?
I think the AR fits the bill. Future battles are more likely to be dominated by ARs, not shotguns. Hence my admonition that every patriot own one and get real comfortable with it.
Luckily, this is the U S of A and I “may” have more than one firearm.
Posted by: RI Red at December 14, 2025 08:54 PM (bxySM)
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What could be so unique about a laser light that could be used to as a lead here?
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions at December 14, 2025 08:47 PM (uv8gn)
Are we talking a laser that is co-witnessed to the barrel, so the bullet hits whatever the laser is illuminating?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 08:55 PM (npFr7)
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Maybe CNN and the cops are talking out their ass.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 14, 2025 08:55 PM (zZu0s)
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200 Aaaaannnd my power went out.
Posted by: Weasel
Mine will prolly do that in the next 24 hours. Ground is saturated, more rain coming and some nasty south wind. Douglass Fir trees have a shallow root base and blow over pretty easy.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 14, 2025 08:55 PM (mT+6a)
220215 I seriously need an ammo and rifles for dummies book.....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 14, 2025 08:53 PM (IQ6Gq)
I can start sending you links for ARs again...
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 14, 2025 08:56 PM (RoO7G)
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So, I guess that's a long way of saying, no, I haven't fired at anybody in a B&E situation.
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 08:40 PM (2L+MU)
But, it IS so danged close to the "I shot an elephant in my pajamas" joke....
Posted by: GWB at December 14, 2025 08:57 PM (dznca)
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Are we talking a laser that is co-witnessed to the barrel, so the bullet hits whatever the laser is illuminating?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
The NY Post reported it was on his handgun - it would seem this is case.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions at December 14, 2025 08:57 PM (uv8gn)
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Maybe CNN and the cops are talking out their ass.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 14, 2025 08:55 PM (zZu0s)
Talk about shit that never happens, right?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 08:57 PM (npFr7)
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Laser guided bullets kill more people each year than 14 giraffes.
Posted by: A expert at December 14, 2025 08:57 PM (vFG9F)
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Posted by: nurse ratched at December 14, 2025 08:55 PM (mT+6a)
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Fortunately it's back on now! The wind is gusting to 35mph (and the windchill is about a bazillion below zero) and all sorts of branches are coming down.
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 08:57 PM (+OnsA)
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To be clear, I understand what everyone is saying about recoil...at this time, that is not my primary concern. I really don't know the differences and how each works...I need to experience each for myself and then understand how each works. I am in the "embrace the 'and'" camp in learning and then decide (If I have to. If not, simply embrace the "and")
227Yes. To the untrained eye, organic tree farming looks like sitting around and goofing off and smoking cigars.
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 07:59 PM (vt7xw)
If you are harvesting for lumber, there is also side-pruning, marking and thinning to avoid losing trees, and of course road and culvert maintenance.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 08:59 PM (rbvCR)
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A friend's house/farm is being taken over by great Pyrenees puppies. They rescued a boy and gal. They waffled because they did not know about breeding them. Evidently the dogs decided for them because the gal has had a couple litters. 14 puppies, cute as can be that will get to the size of small ponies.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 14, 2025 08:59 PM (zZu0s)
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For anyone shooting long arms that recoil a lot--use a recoil pad over clothing or at least something like the padded Marine shooting jacket design especially when bench shooting as it accentuates recoil.
Long chains of shotgun fire or hard recoiling rifle rounds will wear you down affecting accuray even more so with heavy buck or slug loads.
PAST makes some rigs that fit over the clothes and you can also get some shooting jackets that have a pocket for a gel recoil absorbing insert.
Re handguns,
For hand protection, shooting gloves with padded inserts can let shoot longer without pain. Those without fingers are useful as you can retain better trigger feel with those.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 09:00 PM (WDjG6)
230To be clear, I understand what everyone is saying about recoil...at this time, that is not my primary concern. I really don't know the differences and how each works...I need to experience each for myself and then understand how each works. I am in the "embrace the 'and'" camp in learning and then decide (If I have to. If not, simply embrace the "and")
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 14, 2025 08:58 PM
Knowing how your weapon works is important. Fortunately, the AR is a relatively simple platform to explain. Come to NH. We'll get you trained up.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 14, 2025 09:00 PM (Wnv9h)
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The Grateful, the recoil.from a 20 ga is not going to bother you at all.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 09:01 PM (sDNVV)
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Evidently the dogs decided for them because the gal has had a couple litters. 14 puppies, cute as can be that will get to the size of small ponies.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 14, 2025 08:59 PM (zZu0s)
Sooner or later, they will figure out what causes it...
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 09:01 PM (npFr7)
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Laser guided bullets kill more people each year than 14 giraffes.
Posted by: A expert at December 14, 2025 08:57 PM (vFG9F)
No shit.
-Tom Selleck in Runaway
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 14, 2025 09:01 PM (zZu0s)
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220/ Will sending me links for ARs teach me the differences in an elementary manner? If so, fine. If not, I'd prefer to learn first, buy later...
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It would be nice to have something from those days to take out to the range; would be quite a conversation piece!
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 08:42 PM (2L+MU)
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That's a theme of my waterlogged collecting: when you bring it to the range, do people notice? Is it just another tricked-out AR or *gasp* a Glock?
It's nice to haul out something oddball and archaic, like a Mauser Kar98 with all the markings in Chinese or perhaps a Mauser Broomhandle.
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consider a recoil pad on the butt of the gun or as part of a shooting vest.
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 08:45 PM (yTvNw)
They also make pads that you can strap to your shoulder. Midway USA is where I bought mine (that I forgot to bring to Corsicana).
Posted by: GWB at December 14, 2025 09:01 PM (dznca)
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208 ... "We need to meet in the new year to have a chat, if you are willing..."
Mrs. JTB and I would love to. I just ask that conditions are dry. I don't do slippery anymore.
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 09:02 PM (yTvNw)
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The NY Post reported it was on his handgun - it would seem this is case.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions at December 14, 2025 08:57 PM (uv8gn)
10-15 years ago, there was a company (Crimson Trace?) that sold lasers embedded in the grips of a handgun. They had lasers in the grips for a variety of handguns. Now, with Picatinny rail mounts as a standard on handguns, lights and lasers are more commonly found under the barrel on the frame. Unless I see a picture of the firearm, it could be in a couple of different places on the pistol.
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 09:02 PM (BCwQW)
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The NY Post reported it was on his handgun - it would seem this is case.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions at December 14, 2025 08:57 PM (uv8gn)
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This detail was included to make everyone think of the bar seen in Terminator.
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Sooner or later, they will figure out what causes it...
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 09:01 PM (npFr7)
They are trying to sell, them, she just keeps wanting to keep one from each litter. Then she complained that she was going through 100lbs of food every 5 days with their other dogs. I want to tell her to breed chihuahuas. Or maybe corgis.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 14, 2025 09:03 PM (zZu0s)
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215 I seriously need an ammo and rifles for dummies book.....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 14, 2025 08:53 PM (IQ6Gq
Grateful, I did a “Bangsticks for Beginners” over on my site early this year. I’m thinking an “ARs for Aspiring RiflePyrsyns” might be in order.
Posted by: RI Red at December 14, 2025 09:03 PM (bxySM)
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237/ Your conditions are more than reasonable. Thanks!
245
It's nice to haul out something oddball and archaic, like a Mauser Kar98 with all the markings in Chinese or perhaps a Mauser Broomhandle.
Broomhandles are fun to shoot.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 14, 2025 09:01 PM (ZOv7s)
Which raises the question: was the Mauser Broomhandle considered in the quest by the U.S. Army to replace the inadequate .38 cal. revolver? It's my understanding that the 7 mm Mauser cartridge is quite powerful for its day. Winston Churchill was quite fond of the model.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 09:05 PM (npFr7)
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243/ I need to make your site a regular visit....
247If anyone is interested, that video is an impressive example of the benefits of using sabot rounds.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 14, 2025 08:22 PM (HlyYF)
That was actually the new 6.5x25 round with a tungsten sabot, which IIANM is a Swedish innovation using a necked down Tokarev round.
That it can go through 1/3" armor is impressive. Tokarev's were pretty good at penetration at 7.62
I like the idea, but I was surprised it worked in a Glock, I thought it would need a locking breech like a CZ-52
Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 09:06 PM (rbvCR)
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-Tom Selleck in Runaway
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 14, 2025 09:01 PM (zZu0s)
Not to turn this into a movie thread but why doesn’t that movie get more run? From what I remember that was some decent sci-fi.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 14, 2025 09:06 PM (4786I)
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Maybe CNN and the cops are talking out their ass.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 14, 2025 08:55 PM (zZu0s)
I probably speak for everyone here when I say, "What? CNN? Talk out their ass? C'mon, man."
(It's also the only way you can talk with your head that far up your fourth point of contact.)
Posted by: GWB at December 14, 2025 09:07 PM (dznca)
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Grateful, IMO, AR's are easier to customize for your preferences. Most traditional shotguns (exceptions: Benelli M4, Beretta 1301 are examples) are "take it or leave it as is."
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 09:07 PM (BCwQW)
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226 To be clear, I understand what everyone is saying about recoil...at this time, that is not my primary concern. I really don't know the differences and how each works...I need to experience each for myself and then understand how each works. I am in the "embrace the 'and'" camp in learning and then decide (If I have to. If not, simply embrace the "and")
Posted by: The Grateful
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Two things, to get good with a shotgun, even at short distance requires practice and effective self defense loads (buckshot or slugs) not birdshot A gas operated shotgun like a Remington 1100/1187 classic or newer models will recoil a bit less than a pump action, Inertial types don't very much but they do have a different recoil feel.
For the most part, a bigger heavier person can resist the recoil of a shotgun better even if improperly shouldered. A smaller person has to use perfect technique and it is best to actually be standing when shooting and leaning forward as a shoulder muscle (trap from memory but dunno) slides up to form a pocket. That is where you want to shoulder the rifle or shotgun.
Same for youths. Overall a 20 gauge is probably the easiest for most women or youths.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 09:07 PM (WDjG6)
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Re: 20 ga for home defense. Why not a short barrel 410? Minimal recoil and at short distances they should be pretty effective. Plus if you live in an apartment you lessen the chances of unintended consequences. Thoughts?
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions at December 14, 2025 09:08 PM (uv8gn)
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Ed, I wonder - are the professionals (heh) describing a laser or a red dot?
Based on what our esteemed leadership class has uttered over the years, I'm waiting for it to be a full auto AR Glock with LASER "lights"
Posted by: man at December 14, 2025 09:08 PM (XuXeR)
Posted by: Debunked at December 14, 2025 09:09 PM (dznca)
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10-15 years ago, there was a company (Crimson Trace?) that sold lasers embedded in the grips of a handgun. They had lasers in the grips for a variety of handguns. Now, with Picatinny rail mounts as a standard on handguns, lights and lasers are more commonly found under the barrel on the frame. Unless I see a picture of the firearm, it could be in a couple of different places on the pistol.
Posted by: Ed L
Yep. Both they and Lasermax sold them for revolvers and some semi autos. Lasermax also had a laser recoil guide designed to replace the OEM one for some semi autos without picatinny rails. CT still makes laser grips for revolvers I think but not sure if Lasermax is still around or not.
CT is now owned by Smith and Wesson fwiw and got into red dot sights too.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 09:10 PM (WDjG6)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2025 09:10 PM (XeU6L)
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From what I remember that was some decent sci-fi.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 14, 2025 09:06 PM (4786I)
I figure it would probably be excruciatingly bad. I remember enough 'robotics' and future stuff to have that general sense.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 14, 2025 09:10 PM (zZu0s)
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That was actually the new 6.5x25 round with a tungsten sabot, which IIANM is a Swedish innovation using a necked down Tokarev round.
That it can go through 1/3" armor is impressive. Tokarev's were pretty good at penetration at 7.62
I like the idea, but I was surprised it worked in a Glock, I thought it would need a locking breech like a CZ-52
Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 09:06 PM (rbvCR)
Are we talking about tungsten metal, or tungsten carbide penetrators here? Tungsten carbide is very, very hard, and also very dense.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 09:10 PM (npFr7)
259234 220/ Will sending me links for ARs teach me the differences in an elementary manner? If so, fine. If not, I'd prefer to learn first, buy later...
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 14, 2025 09:01 PM (IQ6Gq)
Well that's kind of like cheating....
So the dinner we need to have can follow a range trip with an array of ARs.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 14, 2025 09:10 PM (RoO7G)
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Pretty cool video on piston rings. Perfect circle rings are still around, but are sold under the Mahle name, or are part of Mahle. Don't see them used on harleys though, usually Hastings. A lot of work to make a frigging ring, but it shows. The consistency is pretty amazing really. Every time I check a set they are always the same size out of the box. They all hover around .014 end gap when checked in the cylinder. Right where they need to be for a 3 1/2 " bore.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 14, 2025 09:11 PM (snZF9)
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Tungsten carbide is very, very hard, and also very dense."
So is the average journalist
Posted by: man at December 14, 2025 09:11 PM (XuXeR)
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Last time I had red dots, turned out to be hives.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2025 09:13 PM (XeU6L)
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Meanwhile, Palmetto State Armory is having a Christmas special on a Turkish 1911 at almost stocking stuffer prices.
5 inch barrel. Steel frame. Beavertail safety. Ambi safety. Big sights. "Bobcat" bevel on the butt. Made by Tisas.
$350 before shipping, tax, etc.
https://tinyurl.com/52k5safh
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 14, 2025 09:13 PM (4mmkh)
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Based on what our esteemed leadership class has uttered over the years, I'm waiting for it to be a full auto AR Glock with LASER "lights"
Posted by: man at December 14, 2025 09:08 PM (XuXeR)
I'm willing to wait for more info to get released by the cops. I learned a while back that if the talking heads are talking about a "mule," they could be trying (and failing) to describe just about any critter with four legs because they don't know what they're talking about.
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 09:13 PM (BCwQW)
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10-15 years ago, there was a company (Crimson Trace?) that sold lasers embedded in the grips of a handgun.
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 09:02 PM (BCwQW)
They still do.
Posted by: GWB at December 14, 2025 09:13 PM (dznca)
Posted by: RI Red at December 14, 2025 08:19 PM (bxySM)
6 pounds of Viagra.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 14, 2025 09:13 PM (snZF9)
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I think I can help further confuse the obfuscation going on here!
Because, for "patrolling the property," there's a fourth choice between handgun, rifle and shotgun, that being the pistol-based carbine. They're easy to use, cheaper than a full power rifle, more accurate than a pistol, don't kick like a shotgun, and are easier to handle in doors and hallways than long guns.
I have, well, a selection of good weaponry available, yet still keep a shortish 9mm carbine (with a cheap laser sight) as the "door gun," something I can get to quickly for flipping on the lights in the side yard. This may be its only good use, but it's good at it.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 14, 2025 09:13 PM (zdLoL)
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261 Tungsten carbide is very, very hard, and also very dense."
So is the average journalist
Posted by: man at December 14, 2025 09:11 PM (XuXeR)
No they never told us what was real, iron and coke, chromium steel...
Posted by: Eromero at December 14, 2025 09:14 PM (LHPAg)
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Which raises the question: was the Mauser Broomhandle considered in the quest by the U.S. Army to replace the inadequate .38 cal. revolver? It's my understanding that the 7 mm Mauser cartridge is quite powerful for its day. Winston Churchill was quite fond of the model.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 09:05 PM (npFr7)
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No, in the 1890s revolvers were still favored and by the time the US is looking at a new sidearm, they want a big, beefy horse-killing caliber, not a .30 caliber magnum.
Both the US and UK were biased on the side of bigger holes an opposed to higher velocity.
Fun fact: the velocity of a 7.63mm Mauser cartridge fired by the full 5.9 inch barrel is almost exactly the same as that of a 7.62mm Tokarev fired out of the pistol of the same name. Tokarev ammo is spicier, and not safe for a Broomhandle, so it's interesting that they wanted the same velocity with a shorter barrel. Also designed to run really well in SMGs.
Tokarevs are among the more punishing pistols to shoot.
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252 Re: 20 ga for home defense. Why not a short barrel 410? Minimal recoil and at short distances they should be pretty effective. Plus if you live in an apartment you lessen the chances of unintended consequences. Thoughts?
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
There is not a whole lot of difference between a 410 and a 20 gauge in felt recoil. My mother had a 410 Mossberg set up for self defense and I helped train her to shoot it. A 20 gauge though will have a better terminal effect than a 410 due to differences in the initial wound size (.62 inches versus .41). Recoil is about 10 ft lbs for a 410 defensive load and about 16 for a 20 gauge more or less.
410 is really more a specialist shotgun, not really a self defense. Same with 28 gauge and self defense loads for 16g are hard to come by.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 09:15 PM (WDjG6)
What could be so unique about a laser light that could be used to as a lead here?
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
Maybe he forgot to turn it off, and the cops just followed the light right to him?
____
Last week on the gum thread, Weasel linked to a 1930s Buck Rogers movie. Took me most of the week to watch. It was only about 1h10m, but I could only watch it in chunks of about 10 to 15m. I had to do it like that because I was so dazzled by the impressive special effects and the powerful plot and fine acting. Same way I managed to get through that whole Avatar movie.🙄
So, I don't know if I can handle this week's Strange World of Planet X with the scary monsters!!
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Not to turn this into a movie thread but why doesn’t that movie get more run? From what I remember that was some decent sci-fi.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 14, 2025 09:06 PM (4786I)
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Wow, forgot about that one. Never saw it back in the day, but it's now on my list.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 14, 2025 09:18 PM (RoO7G)
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410 is really more a specialist shotgun, not really a self defense. Same with 28 gauge and self defense loads for 16g are hard to come by.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 09:15 PM (WDjG6)
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The Ishapore 410s can take the standard SMLE bayonet. You know, just in case.
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Based on what our esteemed leadership class has uttered over the years, I'm waiting for it to be a full auto AR Glock with LASER "lights"
Posted by: man
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You left out 'assault rifle'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2025 09:18 PM (XeU6L)
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Which raises the question: was the Mauser Broomhandle considered in the quest by the U.S. Army to replace the inadequate .38 cal. revolver? It's my understanding that the 7 mm Mauser cartridge is quite powerful for its day. Winston Churchill was quite fond of the model.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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The Broomhandle was a fairly expensive firearm to make and semi auto was not really deemed useful to use in unclean environments. Revolvers were tried and true and we knew that the 45 Colt, even the shorter 45 Schofield could kill both man and horse, important in the days of calvary.
And, you also had to pass the Teddy R. test.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 09:19 PM (WDjG6)
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265 10-15 years ago, there was a company (Crimson Trace?) that sold lasers embedded in the grips of a handgun.
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 09:02 PM (BCwQW)
They still do.
Posted by: GWB at December 14, 2025 09:13 PM (dznca)
Original Glock 17 in tupperware box in about 1982
Posted by: Eromero at December 14, 2025 09:19 PM (LHPAg)
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That Perfect Circle video was fascinating to me! My last job was in the lab of a steel foundry and we did all the same types of QC testing. Neat to see the older techniques compared to the modern spectrometers etc we used. Biggest difference is we could do the chemical testing in real time so adjustments could be made before pouring into the molds, so you never wasted molds by pouring bad metal into them.
Good stuff Maynard!
Posted by: Aawlberninf350 at December 14, 2025 09:21 PM (qjy/p)
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From what I read on the Brown shooting the laser isn't the unique identifying aspect, is it?
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 14, 2025 09:21 PM (RoO7G)
Appreciate your being here tonight and participating and hope to see you again next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 09:22 PM (cIOlQ)
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The Ishapore 410s can take the standard SMLE bayonet. You know, just in case.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
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You have to either hand load short 2.5" cases for the SMLE or ream the chamber out to 2.75-3.0 inches for commercial shells. And you get one shot. Fine for a prison guard, not so good if you need a second one in a hurry.
Some South American militaries did the same, sentries carried a one cartridge shot gun. Hard to use those to launch coups, etc. They locked up the rifles in bunkers sometimes even separating rifles and their bolts.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 09:22 PM (WDjG6)
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The Ishapore 410s can take the standard SMLE bayonet. You know, just in case.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
But of course. Why is this not a standard feature on all shotguns. lol.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions at December 14, 2025 09:22 PM (uv8gn)
284Which raises the question: was the Mauser Broomhandle considered in the quest by the U.S. Army to replace the inadequate .38 cal. revolver? It's my understanding that the 7 mm Mauser cartridge is quite powerful for its day. Winston Churchill was quite fond of the model.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 09:05 PM (npFr7)
Because of the experience in the Philippines, it was determined that a.45 cartridge was best. There were a number of pistols entered, including a .45 Luger from Ludwig-Lowe, and of course the Colt-Browning and Savage. There were some smaller caliber pistols also, including some odd designs.
The .45 was decided on because it was the only bullet they found which would penetrate a horse's skull fired full on. This became much less important after WWI but that was not apparent at the time
Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 09:23 PM (rbvCR)
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Going to wind it down. Have a busy day of retirement tomorrow.
Weasel, thx as always. Got any leads on Magic Beans or Shooting Crystals?
They should make good stocking stuffers!
Posted by: RI Red at December 14, 2025 09:24 PM (bxySM)
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Which raises the question: was the Mauser Broomhandle considered in the quest by the U.S. Army to replace the inadequate .38 cal. revolver? It's my understanding that the 7 mm Mauser cartridge is quite powerful for its day. Winston Churchill was quite fond of the model.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 09:05 PM (npFr7)
AOP, the US Army acquired at least one C96 and tested it from 1898-1903. The Army ended up rejecting the Mauser because the stocked pistol's performance was inferior to the Krag carbine, the number of jams or misfires during shooting test, and its high cost compared to the revolvers it would replace.
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 09:24 PM (BCwQW)
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The Broomhandle was a fairly expensive firearm to make and semi auto was not really deemed useful to use in unclean environments. Revolvers were tried and true and we knew that the 45 Colt, even the shorter 45 Schofield could kill both man and horse, important in the days of calvary.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 09:19 PM (WDjG6)
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A surprising amount of features on the 1911 were imposed by the cavalry, which is kind of funny given how little time horses had left.
The Broomhandle was arguably the best handgun of its time, with 10 round capacity, rapid reload, and a powerful cartridge that was not unpleasant to shoot.
But it was expensive, and contracts for it were few, mostly small orders here and there. China loved them, and Spain made bank cranking out imitations that streamlined the design. Mine belonged to the KMT at some point, and came to the US during the great 80s junk sale, when China opened up the militia arsenals in a bid to raise foreign currency (sort of like Franco did 30 years before).
Glock actually built a few ARs for some military trials. Going off off memory, they were for British Special Forces, and had a couple of minor Glock-proprietary features, such as a ambi magazine release. I saw it somewhere on EweTube.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 14, 2025 09:25 PM (4mmkh)
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A survey, Who here has fired on persons doing a B&E?
Posted by: Ben Had
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Drew down on a pit bull while walking my dog but that is a different matter. Fortunately did not have to shoot the poor beastie.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 09:26 PM (WDjG6)
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 09:26 PM (BCwQW)
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Going to wind it down. Have a busy day of retirement tomorrow.
Weasel, thx as always. Got any leads on Magic Beans or Shooting Crystals?
They should make good stocking stuffers!
Posted by: RI Red
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This is just one example of why you are considered a funny man!
292Tungsten carbide is very, very hard, and also very dense.
If I remember right, carbide (it's used for cutters) had a density of 15, and pure tungsten was 19. Lead is 11.
Posted by: t-bird at December 14, 2025 09:26 PM (oAqqA)
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The Mauser C96 broomhandle was my choice.
Posted by: Han Solo at December 14, 2025 09:21 PM (XeU6L)
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That was the short-barreled version, which collectors call the "Bolo" because it was sold to the Bolsheviks in quantity after WW I.
That Tisas is on my list. I shot a friend of mine's in October. It's pretty nice and a nice shooter. He paid $650 at the gun show and that was a good discount off what it was selling for there (which was already well below list).
And now they are selling them for $500....
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 14, 2025 09:27 PM (RoO7G)
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AOP, the US Army acquired at least one C96 and tested it from 1898-1903. The Army ended up rejecting the Mauser because the stocked pistol's performance was inferior to the Krag carbine, the number of jams or misfires during shooting test, and its high cost compared to the revolvers it would replace.
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 09:24 PM (BCwQW)
Makes sense. I was wondering why it got no mention in the video above. It was available, and had been used successfully in battle against fanatic muslims, in fact.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 09:28 PM (npFr7)
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From what I read on the Brown shooting the laser isn't the unique identifying aspect, is it? Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat
Exactly, it was the cell phone. The NY Post story saying the handgun laser helped in locating this guy was a factor struck me as, WTH, how that possible? Something doesn't make sense with this. Most likely the jOuRnAlIsT didn't get something right here.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions at December 14, 2025 09:28 PM (uv8gn)
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and I forgot, the C96 Mauser, the Manlicher 1894 pistol and the 1900 Colt Browning in .38 were tried in 1900, in 1906 it was decided to hold different trials.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 09:28 PM (rbvCR)
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For a full accounting of all of the pistols tested by the US Army during the years leading up to the M1911, see Edward Scott Meadows' "US Military Automatic Pistols, 1894-1920."
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 09:29 PM (BCwQW)
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You have to either hand load short 2.5" cases for the SMLE or ream the chamber out to 2.75-3.0 inches for commercial shells. And you get one shot. Fine for a prison guard, not so good if you need a second one in a hurry.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 09:22 PM (WDjG6)
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The one I picked up ran just fine on standard commercial ammo. Maybe a previous owner worked on it.
One shot is annoying, but it is satisfying turning the bolt after dusting a clay.
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Speaking of the need to understand how a gun works and maintaining it ...
I've mentioned in the past that I have the Gun Digest Assembly/Disassembly books that cover most of my firearms. This is a series and each one covers a particular class of guns: rimfire rifles, centerfire rifles, semiauto handguns, revolvers, shotguns, etc. There is probably one for the AR platform by now. The diagrams take it down to each screw and component. They have come in handy over the years. I'm no gunsmith, but even I can follow the schematics.
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 09:30 PM (yTvNw)
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The Broomhandle was arguably the best handgun of its time, with 10 round capacity, rapid reload, and a powerful cartridge that was not unpleasant to shoot.
But it was expensive, and contracts for it were few, mostly small orders here and there. China loved them, and Spain made bank cranking out imitations that streamlined the design. Mine belonged to the KMT at some point, and came to the US during the great 80s junk sale, when China opened up the militia arsenals in a bid to raise foreign currency (sort of like Franco did 30 years before).
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
I think NIH was part of it as US was already in the courts over the 1903 Springfield violating Mauser patents and the Krag was also viewed as Not Invented Here. Plus the 1911 in 45 Auto is simply one of the great military and police firearms of all time. Loose enough to function in the slop of trench warfare, but was a definite man stopper in close in battle using military FMJ.
Changing out magazines is also easier than a fixed magazine using stripper clips which is why the Germans went mostly with the Luger in WWI rather than the Mauser.
But I agree, a 7.63 Mauser is not a weapon to sneeze at.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 09:31 PM (WDjG6)
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What could be so unique about a laser light that could be used to as a lead here?
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram
The only thing I know for sure is it's Trump’s fault.
Chris Murphy goes after Trump for Brown University shoot*ng:
“Donald Trump has been engaged in a dizzying campaign to increase violence in this country."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 09:31 PM (L/fGl)
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Makes sense. I was wondering why it got no mention in the video above. It was available, and had been used successfully in battle against fanatic muslims, in fact.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 09:28 PM (npFr7)
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British officers purchased their own sidearms, and because his mother was rich, Winston got the hottest new thing out there. It served him well, that's for sure.
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For the sabot round fired out of a pistol: it'd be crazy if depleted uranium was tried. IIRC, DU is even denser than tungsten is. Of course, the nasty aftereffects of DU after it goes through things would be a problem. DU dust inhaled into the lungs is pretty toxic.
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 09:32 PM (BCwQW)
The alleged gunman who opened fire at Brown University on Saturday, killing two people and injuring nine others, is a US Army infantry soldier with sniper training.
Well former soldier.
Interesting, maybe, tidbit from his reported LinkedIn:
The LinkedIn page further notes that he was open to volunteering opportunities - listing a variety of causes from animal welfare, civil rights, gender equity, public safety and refugee and migrant support.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 14, 2025 09:32 PM (RoO7G)
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I've mentioned in the past that I have the Gun Digest Assembly/Disassembly books that cover most of my firearms. This is a series and each one covers a particular class of guns: rimfire rifles, centerfire rifles, semiauto handguns, revolvers, shotguns, etc. There is probably one for the AR platform by now. The diagrams take it down to each screw and component. They have come in handy over the years. I'm no gunsmith, but even I can follow the schematics.
Posted by: JTB
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Gun Digest press have one for long rifles updated every couple of years, shotguns, ditto, and handguns. There are a cottage industry of AR manuals but the comic book style AR manuals is hard to beat and still available. Famous cartoonist did that one.
You will, however, see a bump off of old models and addition of newer ones. Older editions can be found online at Ebay for a modest price.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 09:33 PM (WDjG6)
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300/ [Grateful makes note of this to discuss this at subsequent gathering...]
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Thanks Weasel for the Gunthread if a bit late. Gotta go as I have a nuclear heart stress test in the early morning.
Have a good week y'all.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 09:35 PM (WDjG6)
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If I remember right, carbide (it's used for cutters) had a density of 15, and pure tungsten was 19. Lead is 11.
Posted by: t-bird at December 14, 2025 09:26 PM (oAqqA)
But to punch a hole in armor plate, your penetrator also has to be hard, and tough. Too brittle, it will shatter. Too soft, it will splatter.
Was watching a Tao Fledermaus video the other night, and they were shooting "Kylon" slugs, which had a tungsten carbide cylinder about 1/4" diameter by 3/4" long embedded in a nylon waisted pellet shape. It consistently punched holes in AR500 armor plate, taking out a little cylindrical plug of steel. The penetrator itself fractured into powder in the course of doing that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 09:35 PM (npFr7)
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305/ this may or may not be accurate...reports are there are two individuals in WI with the same name and age, and only one with military experience...
fog of war...to be continued....
311Most likely the jOuRnAlIsT didn't get something right here.
Not possible. They're experts.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 14, 2025 09:36 PM (3nLb4)
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Changing out magazines is also easier than a fixed magazine using stripper clips which is why the Germans went mostly with the Luger in WWI rather than the Mauser.
But I agree, a 7.63 Mauser is not a weapon to sneeze at.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 09:31 PM (WDjG6)
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Of course, when the Broomhandle came along, detachable box magazines were not even part of the conversation. The thing about them was that they had to be of good quality, and they were very expensive, which is why the Broomhandle soldiered on, and Steyr decided against them as well. The Steyr Hahn is another odd beast, the bastard offspring of an early Colt and Austrian engineering.
Don't push the wrong button, or instead of sending the slide forward, you'll create a shower of bullets out of the magazine.
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For the sabot round fired out of a pistol: it'd be crazy if depleted uranium was tried. IIRC, DU is even denser than tungsten is. Of course, the nasty aftereffects of DU after it goes through things would be a problem. DU dust inhaled into the lungs is pretty toxic.
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 09:32 PM (BCwQW)
Starting to see colleagues of mine from Desert Storm popping up with leukemia.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 14, 2025 09:37 PM (2WIwB)
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British officers purchased their own sidearms, and because his mother was rich, Winston got the hottest new thing out there. It served him well, that's for sure.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 14, 2025 09:32 PM (ZOv7s)
Churchill purchased a Colt Government Model (SN# C15566) and took it with him when he served in France on the Western Front. He engraved "Winston Spencer Churchill" on the right side of slide later. He continued to carry that Colt Government Model, even when he became Prime Minister during WWII.
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 09:37 PM (BCwQW)
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And, you also had to pass the Teddy R. test.
Posted by: whig at December 14, 2025 09:19 PM
In an alternate universe, TR found himself assigned as a Brigadier General of Ordnance, as a means to sideline him from politics, and was tasked to upgrade American small arms. His first act was to shut down the 1903 project and license the Mauser M98...
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 14, 2025 09:38 PM (4mmkh)
316For a full accounting of all of the pistols tested by the US Army during the years leading up to the M1911, see Edward Scott Meadows' "US Military Automatic Pistols, 1894-1920."
Posted by: Ed L at December 14, 2025 09:29 PM (BCwQW)
You can also find it in Edward C Ezell's Handguns of the World
Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 09:38 PM (rbvCR)
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Starting to see colleagues of mine from Desert Storm popping up with leukemia.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 14, 2025 09:37 PM (2WIwB)
Meant to add that there was a lot of DU flying around in that war. Even some indications of just long term handling of DU munitions was an issue.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 14, 2025 09:41 PM (2WIwB)
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@298 As I recall the history of 1890's tests, an early Luger then called a Borchardt was evaluated. Some testers were pretty excited by its potential, but it failed mud and dust trials.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 14, 2025 09:42 PM (zdLoL)
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Starting to see colleagues of mine from Desert Storm popping up with leukemia.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 14, 2025 09:37 PM (2WIwB)
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People saw the "uranium" thing and thought about radioactivity, but heavy metal toxicity is also a thing.
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I've got some sabot slugs for my shotgun. Well not technically sabot they call them "aero wads" for smoothbore.
But you get essentially a sub-caliber slug coming out of the 12 guage.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 14, 2025 09:43 PM (RoO7G)
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I don't think any army adopted the C-96. A few like the Germans used it as an alternate weapon, and the Russians used it since they seized a train-load that were being shipped to the Bolsheviks. The Spanish made it but most of the sales were to China.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 09:44 PM (rbvCR)
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OK, I think I see where the "$24 pistol" video comes in. That's the cost of building the post-WW1 A1 version of the 1911. It gets mentioned in the $15 video.
Thanks for the thread, Weasel! Thank you, Horde, for the comments! See y'all in the shooting gallery, hopefully.
Posted by: GWB at December 14, 2025 09:46 PM (dznca)
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Rob Reiner Hollywood director and actor was found dead in his home..
Posted by: weft cut loop at December 14, 2025 09:50 PM (mlg/3)
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Early in the Ukrainian War, the US was supplying some depleted uranium ordnance. The Russians made some pointed comments about how this was a form of chemical warfare. There was also a scare when some ammo dumps were blown up that may have stored DU shells.
I don't know if anything ever became of it.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 14, 2025 09:51 PM (4mmkh)
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I don't think any army adopted the C-96. A few like the Germans used it as an alternate weapon, and the Russians used it since they seized a train-load that were being shipped to the Bolsheviks. The Spanish made it but most of the sales were to China.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 09:44 PM (rbvCR)
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And yet it stayed in production until 1937 with some 700,000 units produced. Not bad.
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BREAKING: 2 elderly people found dead at Los Angeles home of film director Rob Reiner. Identities not yet confirmed. Detectives investigating - NBCLA
Posted by: weft cut loop at December 14, 2025 09:51 PM (mlg/3)
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BREAKING: 2 elderly people found dead at Los Angeles home of film director Rob Reiner. Identities not yet confirmed. Detectives investigating - NBCLA
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Bad actor not named.
Posted by: Han Solo at December 14, 2025 09:56 PM (XeU6L)
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I am not a fan of celebrating people's deaths even if it's someone I do not care for personally.
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 09:57 PM (DJPFk)
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I have not found Toks hard to shoot. They make a fireball, for sure. But .357 mag out of SP-101 or hell, full power .38 special out of an airweight is more punishing.
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Well, I guess it's time to thank Weasel, even though he may not be able to see this, what with the power and all. Still, it's the thought that counts!
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I have not found Toks hard to shoot. They make a fireball, for sure. But .357 mag out of SP-101 or hell, full power .38 special out of an airweight is more punishing.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at December 14, 2025 09:57 PM (xcxpd)
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My EDC for 20 years was a Total Titanium in .38 special, and I practiced regularly. It could be that I got a Romanian lemon, or maybe I'm just getting old.
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I just saw the news on 4chan /tv/, not confirmed it's Mr / Mrs Reiner.
Although who else would it be. The Reiners are past the Henley age where random underage girls just materialize dead and/or ODed in your home.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 14, 2025 10:03 PM (gKWVE)
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tbh, I miss Greene more. His Dorian was an excellent villain in The Mask. Greene should have done more movies.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 14, 2025 10:05 PM (gKWVE)
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I am not a fan of celebrating people's deaths even if it's someone I do not care for personally."
Indeed. I do not speak ill of the dead.
I don't have to speak kindly, either, as the case may be.
Posted by: man at December 14, 2025 10:07 PM (XuXeR)
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Signing off. Thanks for another great Gun Thread, Weasel!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 14, 2025 10:08 PM (Wnv9h)
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The problem with depleted uranium is more chemical than radiological: it’s a heavy metal poison. Of course lead is a heavy metal poison too.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 14, 2025 10:19 PM (APZWP)
Food Thread: The Unbearable Heaviness Of A Bad Yorkshire Pudding
Nothing special about that pint, except for its deliciousness and its novelty. I had never seen their cask ale before!
Well, the little Christmas tree in the background is nice, which is why I chose the photo. And I used to drink "Samuel Smith's Pale Ale" in bottles when I was a callow youth. It was expensive, so I could only have one, but as I recall it was quite good!
This one is called "Old Brewery Bitter," which amuses me, because it isn't bitter at all. I guess it's true, we are two people, separated by a common language!
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This a bit of an abbreviated Food Thread. I have a Birthday/Hanukah celebration this afternoon, and apparently I am the only person on earth who knows how to cook!
I'll be in and out, so try to keep the conversation civil, or bawdy, or silly, or....
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"Garden & Gun" is a fun Southern food and society (but in a good way) magazine that isn't too full of itself. Here is their Christmas cookie extravaganza, complete with some weird ones, but enough good, solid choices to be worth a read. "Brown Butter Sandwich Cookies with Chai Spice Buttercream" is not on my baking list, but "Ginger Molasses Cookies" and "Butter Pecan Cookies" certainly are!
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That is pork belly, and it was absolutely delicious! Unfortunately the Yorkshire Pudding was a mediocrity, and perhaps the single best example of the fall of a once great country. I think the restaurant, which has always been solid, made them too early, and they dried out. I get that it can be a challenge for the home cook to make Yorkshire Pudding, but a restaurant kitchen that touts its roasts? Sorry, that's a resounding fail.
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Lamb shoulder chops for the win! Sure, they are a bit sinewy, and can be chewy, but they are delicious and "lamby" and easy to cook. All I did was marinate them in garlic, olive oil, Rosemary, S&P, then grill them on high heat for less than 10 minutes! Delicious!
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A friend graciously gave me some genuine grown-in-the-USA garlic, and I am going to taste one clove and plant the rest, because my pathetic failure last year is an anomaly...right? I hope so, because It's in the ground (actually, a large pot), and it had better work this time!
Send all of your extra antelope to: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com.
Rumor has it that the Bourbon Bubble is bursting. I have seen no evidence of decreasing prices, but maybe the bursting started somewhere else! I think the sweet spot is $40-$60 for excellent and interesting bottles, and bumping that to $100 gets you an incremental improvement in quality, but nothing mind-blowing. More than that and I think you are paying for hype and rarity, which may look good in your liquor cabinet, but doesn't translate to more quality in the bottle.
The problem...or the solution...is to buy lots of bourbon, take tasting notes, and eventually arrive at your favorites! It should take forty or fifty years, but it is worth it!
I’d have been happy to come cook your holiday dinner. I’m not sure your guests are accustomed to a proper paella and delicately smoked meats.
At least I wouldn’t serve Brussels sprouts
Posted by: Pete Bog at December 14, 2025 04:10 PM (EU9xD)
13I’d have been happy to come cook your holiday dinner. I’m not sure your guests are accustomed to a proper paella and delicately smoked meats.
At least I wouldn’t serve Brussels sprouts
Posted by: Pete Bog at December 14, 2025 04:10 PM
On the plus side, one could easily get away with serving them NYC-sourced picante sauce.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 04:13 PM (0sNs1)
14This a bit of an abbreviated Food Thread. I have a Birthday/Hanukah celebration this afternoon, and apparently I am the only person on earth who knows how to cook!
It's a trap!
Also, once one learns how to properly cook and serve a meal, it's a constant battle to overcome one's aversion to the disappointing flaws in other people's cooking. It's even harder to eat at restaurants, where it's clear the food prep is done by people who give no figs.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 14, 2025 04:17 PM (Riz8t)
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Pork Belly is the nontraditional Hanukah choice, I take it.
Represents the Selucids getting their asses kicked.
Posted by: RS at December 14, 2025 04:19 PM (SuU/K)
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I ordered a 3 quart saucier from Misen. It hasn't arrived yet, but I'm looking forward to using it to make...sauces and reductions.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 14, 2025 04:19 PM (Riz8t)
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Supposed to freeze here tonight, so I finally brought the plants in for the winter. That includes some heavily discounted rosemary plants I picked up a few days ago; Im hoping I can put them into the ground in the spring and theyll be hearty enough to survive next year.
I have friends who had rosemary bushes literally all over their yard at their last house. But that was San Diego.
18Supposed to freeze here tonight, so I finally brought the plants in for the winter. That includes some heavily discounted rosemary plants I picked up a few days ago
Sage advice.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 14, 2025 04:22 PM (Riz8t)
22This one is called "Old Brewery Bitter," which amuses me, because it isn't bitter at all. I guess it's true, we are two people, separated by a common language!
One of the breweries I used to frequent made an English-style "Extra Special Bitter." Not bitter at all. Nor all that special, heh.
ESBs run about 30-40 IBU, which is nothing in a world run by septuple dry-hopped IPAs that are over 100. Even good-old Guinness is 45 IBU.
Posted by: mikeski at December 14, 2025 04:25 PM (nhCoE)
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So, spouse doesn't know who won the dessert contest at work, but in good news, I sent in 2 full batches of my dark chocolate sea salt brownies (the boxed ones with pluses) and not a single one remained after the party. That could not be said for many other desserts.
So, mission accomplished. Nothing came home, and apparently, my spouse's got good cooking cred marks (for something he didn't make)...
Sending the 90% product vs the cheffy one seems to have been the smart play in an area that has no idea how to home cook.
Posted by: Nova Local at December 14, 2025 04:26 PM (tOcjL)
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nurse ratched you didn't forget the carrots did you?
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 04:28 PM (Ia/+0)
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 14, 2025 04:28 PM (/HDaX)
27I have friends who had rosemary bushes literally all over their yard at their last house. But that was San Diego.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 14, 2025 04:21 PM (EXyHK)
They also grew quite well in SE New Mexico.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 14, 2025 04:30 PM (/HDaX)
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Where are you, Stephen Price Blair? Because I'm outside Bozeman MT, a mile high exactly, and my sage has lasted and grown for years. It's about 3 feet across.
Rosemary I have to pot for the winter and put out again in the spring. But it thrives in a sunny window. You just can't ever forget to water it.
Posted by: Wenda at December 14, 2025 04:31 PM (A65Zh)
In 1970ish,My mom gave me a book for young boys about manners & etiquette, entitled, "Stand Up, Shake Hands, Say How Do You Do: What Boys Need to Know About Today's Manners." Excellent book. I still remember portions of it. Bought (used) copies for my own sons.
Posted by: RS at December 14, 2025 04:32 PM (SuU/K)
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Lamb shoulder chops are a great cut. If I don't use them for a stew, I sous vide them, then sear quickly.
No major food news, but I did finish up making a nice batch of sausages for the holidays. That was something the RMBS Dad and I always did for the family. I try to keep tradition alive.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 14, 2025 04:33 PM (Wnv9h)
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No matter how carefully I wayer and feed it, I just cannot get a rosemary plant to overwinter.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 14, 2025 04:38 PM (Wnv9h)
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Speaking of cookies, I made some Almond Cherry Chocolate Chip cookies for Thanksgiving for the first time. They were a huge hit, particularly with my 14-year-old grandson.
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at December 14, 2025 04:38 PM (FEVMW)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 14, 2025 04:39 PM (Wnv9h)
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Hello hungry horde. I made cookies for church tonight. One tried and true recipe - apple cookies with maple glaze (sorry not sorry, CBD) and one new to me recipe - chewy ginger molasses. The molasses cookies taste good but if I make them again I'll put in more ginger. The recipe only called for 1/2 tsp.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 14, 2025 04:22 PM
I made hamburger chile a couple of weeks ago and to switch it up, I fixed chile dogs a couple of times. Really good and a nice change from just chile.
Posted by: huerfano at December 14, 2025 04:43 PM (98kQX)
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No matter how carefully I wayer and feed it, I just cannot get a rosemary plant to overwinter.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 14, 2025 04:38 PM (Wnv9h)
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Me neither. If I leave it outside, it dies. If I bring it inside, it dies.
Mine was even rude enough to die mid-summer this year in spite of tender treatment. I think one kind of disease got it.
I remember Rancher Bob's place has tree-sized rosemary plants. I've never seen them so enormous.
Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2025 04:46 PM (79pEw)
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I've perused the book I got from the library, "Weird Cookies: Strange and Unusual Cookies for the Adventurous Baker."
Well, I am not especially adventurous, and there are maybe three recipes I would consider trying. But they are fascinating, and some of you who like complex flavor profiles might enjoy them.
There are four main categories. The first is cookies made with somewhat unusual flavors and combos. Some examples:
Blackberry Lavender
Gorgonzola and Walnut
Lavender Shortbread
Sweet Potato and Marshmallow
Oatmeal Raisin with Bacon
43 I remember Rancher Bob's place has tree-sized rosemary plants. I've never seen them so enormous.
Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2025 04:46 PM (79pEw)
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That's because Cow Horse Queen yelled at them and told them they better grow.
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 04:48 PM (+1HQm)
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Merguez is a sausage made with uncooked lamb, beef, or a mixture stuffed into a lamb-intestine casing. It is heavily spiced with cumin and chili pepper or harissa, which give it its characteristic piquancy and red color, as well as other spices such as sumac, fennel and garlic.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 14, 2025 04:51 PM (Kt19C)
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Whatever we're having for dinner tonight it coming out of the oven. It's f-ing cold here and I need to put some heat in the house.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 14, 2025 04:51 PM (NwnyJ)
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The molasses cookies taste good but if I make them again I'll put in more ginger. The recipe only called for 1/2 tsp.
Posted by: screaming in digital at December 14, 2025 04:41 PM (UONii)
Do they also have cinnamon? I'd probably like that, my grandma's recipe wasn't ginger-heavy, and I loved them.
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I think Sam Smith's Oatmeal Stout is the runt of the line. Not that it's bad, it just falls short of expectations set by the rest of the line, which, IMO, peaks with Tadcaster...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 14, 2025 04:55 PM (nbLIj)
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Kiddo wants pizza for her birthday, which is fine by me. All I have to do is pick it up later.
Posted by: PabloD at December 14, 2025 04:55 PM (Epuwl)
Wasabi Pea and Pickle
Curry Coconut
Cardamom and Black Pepper (I would try this)
Ancho Chili and Dark Chocolate
Third part, caffeinated cookies, all made with coffee
Fourth part, cookies made with alcoholic beverages, like:
Margarita Cookies (would try)
Beer and Pretzel
Whiskey Pecan
White Russian
Fun book to look through. Author is Robert Griffith
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 14, 2025 04:53 PM (h7ZuX)
I'd give almost all the coffee and alcohol ones a try...same for all the spicy cookies except wasabi and pickle - that seems like someone's idea of a joke cookie...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 14, 2025 04:55 PM (tOcjL)
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49 Kiddo wants pizza for her birthday, which is fine by me. All I have to do is pick it up later.
Posted by: PabloD at December 14, 2025 04:55 PM (Epuwl)
Pick up strawberries and a bottle of whipped cream for the side...sneaks in more produce in a "birthday" way...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 14, 2025 04:56 PM (tOcjL)
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I'd give almost all the coffee and alcohol ones a try...same for all the spicy cookies except wasabi and pickle - that seems like someone's idea of a joke cookie...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 14, 2025 04:55 PM (tOcjL)
Yeah, some of that just would not mix with sweet, in my opinion. Would be better in a cracker type of baked good.
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Do they also have cinnamon? I'd probably like that, my grandma's recipe wasn't ginger-heavy, and I loved them.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!
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Yes, just a bit of cinnamon, cloves, nutmeg and allspice in addition to the ginger. Here is the recipe: https://tinyurl.com/6ttyrxdy
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Woohoo!!!
Haufbrau is shipping to 'Murica their Helles in cans now. Excellent bier!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 14, 2025 05:00 PM (2WIwB)
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I'd give almost all the coffee and alcohol ones a try...same for all the spicy cookies except wasabi and pickle - that seems like someone's idea of a joke cookie...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 14, 2025 04
I'm not sure I'd give Malort a try. Based on the opinions of other people.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at December 14, 2025 05:02 PM (8CIFn)
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Me neither. If I leave it outside, it dies. If I bring it inside, it dies.
Mine was even rude enough to die mid-summer this year in spite of tender treatment. I think one kind of disease got it.
I remember Rancher Bob's place has tree-sized rosemary plants. I've never seen them so enormous.
Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2025 04:46 PM
Ditto. Last year one died almost overnight mid-summer. This year I brought it in, fed it, watered it, and it repaid me by dying 3 weeks later. On the plus side, my lemon tree is doing amazingly well.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 14, 2025 05:04 PM (Wnv9h)
57Woohoo!!!
Haufbrau is shipping to 'Murica their Helles in cans now. Excellent bier!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 14, 2025 05:00 PM (2WIwB)
I'll have to give that a shot. >8^>
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 14, 2025 05:06 PM (/HDaX)
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This summer I grew catmint and brought in a plant for the winter. Oh, my. The cats came from opposite ends of the house to sample and nibbled until they passed out like drunks.
I felt like their dealer.
Posted by: Wenda at December 14, 2025 05:07 PM (A65Zh)
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>>> 57 Woohoo!!!
Haufbrau is shipping to 'Murica their Helles in cans now. Excellent bier!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 14, 2025 05:00 PM (2WIwB)
I'll have to give that a shot. >8^>
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 14, 2025 05:06 PM (/HDaX)
Looks like Total Wine carries it.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 14, 2025 05:07 PM (ULPxl)
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Would like to make cookies, chocolate chip but not sure that's possible
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 05:08 PM (Ia/+0)
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60 Would like to make cookies, chocolate chip but not sure that's possible
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 05:08 PM (Ia/+0)
How come?
Posted by: Nova Local at December 14, 2025 05:09 PM (tOcjL)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 14, 2025 05:10 PM (ULPxl)
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I would try those blackberry lavender cookies. I wonder if the booze ones actually taste boozy. I made bourbon orange biscotti and cherry almond biscotti (with amaretto) this week and while both are good, there's absolutely zero taste of the alcohol involved. And the cherry ones had half a cup of amaretto in the dough. If I make them again I would cut back on the amaretto and add a teaspoon of almond extract.
Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2025 05:11 PM (79pEw)
64Looks like Total Wine carries it.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 14, 2025 05:07 PM (ULPxl)
Good deal. I stop by there occasionally for their liquers/bitters section mainly but I'm always up for a good German bier.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 14, 2025 05:11 PM (/HDaX)
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Hi Wenda! Have you taken out the Christmas china yet?
Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2025 05:12 PM (79pEw)
66 The lovely and adventurous Mrs naturalfake had a "Christmas Cookie Exchange" with a group 0f friends this afternoon, so-
normally she brings the Rum Balls(the recipe of which can be found in "The Deplorable Gourmet") because who doesn't love cookies what can make you drunk, but-
she saw a recipe for Pistachio, Cherry, Cranberry Biscotti yesterday and decided that's what she was going to bake, even though she'd never made biscotti before.
She got up early and whipped up a batch and they were delicious, and I got my hand slapped away a few times due to "Cookie Poaching' a crime in these here parts.
She loves this sort of thing but I often feel she gets the short-end of the stick becuz- you are supposed to bring home-made cookies along with the recipes, so everyone can eat delicious cookies and expand their Cookie Making Horizons, buuuut a few of this group are lazy, lame-ass bitches who buy cookies at Costco or some such place.
I believe these LLABs should be shown the door, and pelted with their lame-ass cookies as the rest of the ladies cry "Shame!!!" at them.
However, Box Wine is a great social leveler and lubricant and they all have a good time.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 14, 2025 05:13 PM (iJfKG)
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That's because Cow Horse Queen yelled at them and told them they better grow.
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 04:48 PM (+1HQm)
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Hi Weasel! You're probably right. I wonder if she would come here and yell at my plants for me next year.
Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2025 05:14 PM (79pEw)
68but very limited locations. thpppppppt
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 14, 2025 05:10 PM (ULPxl)
Checks... not available in the Knoxville area.
However, I see a number of other Helles varieties (Weihenstepaner, Augustiner Brau, Paulaner, etc.) available to try.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 14, 2025 05:14 PM (/HDaX)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 05:17 PM (Ia/+0)
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She loves this sort of thing but I often feel she gets the short-end of the stick becuz- you are supposed to bring home-made cookies along with the recipes, so everyone can eat delicious cookies and expand their Cookie Making Horizons, buuuut a few of this group are lazy, lame-ass bitches who buy cookies at Costco or some such place.
I believe these LLABs should be shown the door, and pelted with their lame-ass cookies as the rest of the ladies cry "Shame!!!" at them.
However, Box Wine is a great social leveler and lubricant and they all have a good time.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 14, 2025 05:13 PM (iJfKG)
Nah, they at least brought something...and it's very possible the store bought cookie is wildly more edible than they could produce (so they buy b/c of embarrassment). Now, if they didn't buy or bring anything, then you kick them out...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 14, 2025 05:17 PM (tOcjL)
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I believe these LLABs should be shown the door, and pelted with their lame-ass cookies as the rest of the ladies cry "Shame!!!" at them.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 14, 2025 05:13 PM (iJfKG)
Absolutely. Anyone can buy cookies. I want cookies someone made, even if they are...checks weird cookie book....Spicy Schechuan Peppercorn and Cherry cookies.
72This summer I grew catmint and brought in a plant for the winter. Oh, my. The cats came from opposite ends of the house to sample and nibbled until they passed out like drunks.
I felt like their dealer.
Posted by: Wenda at December 14, 2025 05:07 PM (A65Zh)
I grew some for making herbal tea, and dried it without problems, but when I made tea, I spilled it. After wiping it up with a napkin I went for a towel in the kitchen and when I came back the big tom was rolling in it.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 05:18 PM (rbvCR)
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The Hofbrau site finds more options and specifies what's available:
https://shorturl.at/f6EYy
Still looks like the Helles isn't widely distributed yet.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 14, 2025 05:19 PM (ULPxl)
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Chocolate chips are incredibly expensive right now. $8 for 12 ounces! They don't even sell them in a 1 lb bag anymore!
And I bought them anyway because sending handmade truffles and fudge to my Grandmother is What I Do for Christmas!
Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 14, 2025 05:19 PM (i00+Z)
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When you combine "Yorkshire" with "first world problems" and "Monty Python" you get: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue7wM0QC5LE
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at December 14, 2025 05:19 PM (36PRH)
77 I noticed that Deshutes Jubelale has just hit the shelves.
If you've never tried it before it is absolutely a first class winter warmer and Christmas ale.
Buy some. Now! Right now!
Becuz it will disappear very rapidly and then you will be left bereft and alone and a sad specimen indeed as you try to fake a jolly Christmas Spirit.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 14, 2025 05:20 PM (iJfKG)
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I hear England has some of the best shawarma in the arab world.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 14, 2025 05:22 PM (/lPRQ)
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75 Chocolate chips are incredibly expensive right now. $8 for 12 ounces! They don't even sell them in a 1 lb bag anymore!
And I bought them anyway because sending handmade truffles and fudge to my Grandmother is What I Do for Christmas!
Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 14, 2025 05:19 PM (i00+Z)
Where did you buy? Even Trader Joe's is selling their chocolate chips for $4...
And I got a Guittard bag of really dark chocolate chips from Amazon for under $6...
I did choco chip this week, and my kid learned my secret. You vary the chips. People get tired of one chocolate, but multiple chocolate types (and enough salt) keep interest for cookie after cookie. I used Trader Joe's chips, a Coconut Sugar dark chocolate chip (so really not sweet) and a regular semi-sweet chip. I used to do white, milk, and dark chocolate, but any variation works well...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 14, 2025 05:24 PM (tOcjL)
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I wonder if she would come here and yell at my plants for me next year.
Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2025 05:14 PM
The RMBS Mom routinely reads the parable of the unfruitful fig tree to her figs during Holy Week. They grow...well. 😄
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 14, 2025 05:25 PM (Wnv9h)
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48 I think Sam Smith's Oatmeal Stout is the runt of the line. Not that it's bad, it just falls short of expectations set by the rest of the line, which, IMO, peaks with Tadcaster...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 14, 2025 04:55 PM (nbLIj)
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Do they still make the Nut Brown Ale? That was my introduction to Samuel Smith's beers.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at December 14, 2025 05:25 PM (36PRH)
But no. This is the first anniversary of my granddaughter's death two weeks before Christmas last year. Dark time here, I'm afraid.
Posted by: Wenda at December 14, 2025 05:30 PM (A65Zh)
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my daughter is a big advent calendar person, and presented me with one of tiny jars of Bonne Maman limited editions.
Some sound weird, but are delicious. Big hits with me so far are Cherry Rose and Apricot Lavender. Tonight will be Mango Ginger!
(I've been having some at breakfast, but if it is something I don't want first-thing on toast, I've been having it for dessert on a piece of shortbread, with a glass of wine. Bonus: soak the labels off the teeny weeny jars, and give to grandgirl for beads/craft stuff. She is at the love-anything-tiny stage, and is thrilled to get them, lol!)
Posted by: barbarausa at December 14, 2025 05:33 PM (enw9G)
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lame-ass bitches who buy cookies at Costco or some such place."
Well, I don't bake, so if I wanted a cookie...
Posted by: man at December 14, 2025 05:36 PM (XuXeR)
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Supper was simple but good. Been microwave potatoes, let it cool then dice it up to fry it. Much faster to get done.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 05:36 PM (Ia/+0)
Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2025 05:40 PM (cYBz/)
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I'm just beginning my Christmas cookie making this year - Rose Levy Berenbaum's Christmas cookies feature heavily. I began with her Scottish shortbread, and it is delightful! Four ingredients, long bake at a low temp, so your house smells amazing, and my taste testers proclaim it the best shortbread ever. Next up are gingerbread, almond cherry biscotti, sugar cookies and peppermint bark brownies. Not all in one day, I'm old now.
Posted by: moki at December 14, 2025 05:41 PM (wLjpr)
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Oatmeal for supper tonight as I'm still under the influence of the bad vapors.
Well - if we're being all English and shit, porridge.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2025 05:41 PM (cYBz/)
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I have a small book called "Mangled Manners", with such helpful hints as:
A tuxedo must never be worn before six, so be sure your watch is right. If you arrive at an affair before six, hide outside in back of some bushes or a THICK tree until six o'clock.
Never wear anything that is in vogue among the lower classes.
Do NOT remove your clothes at a party unless the others are doing so.
Red wine should be served if you have a red tablecloth or rug. White wine with a white tablecloth.
After a heavy meal, do not loosen your belt or remove your truss while at the table
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 05:43 PM (kpS4V)
91CBD does strike me as the guy who gets an iPad and then pours hops directly into it because it is not hoppy enough for him.
Took me a few seconds to figure out what trick autocorrupt was playing there.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 14, 2025 05:43 PM (/LGzh)
92 The RMBS Mom routinely reads the parable of the unfruitful fig tree to her figs during Holy Week. They grow...well. 😄
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 14, 2025 05:25 PM (Wnv9h)
Lol!- your mom is awesome!!
Posted by: moki at December 14, 2025 05:43 PM (wLjpr)
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Just returned from my yearly Christmas get together.
I "won" a can of Spam and a can of Spam Christmas ornament in the white elephant (although she calls it Chinese Christmas) gift exchange.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 14, 2025 05:44 PM (pkeXY)
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89 Oatmeal for supper tonight as I'm still under the influence of the bad vapors.
Well - if we're being all English and shit, porridge.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2025 05:41 PM (cYBz/)
Well, if it's English, your eating it plain with no seasoning and no taste...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 14, 2025 05:45 PM (tOcjL)
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Years ago I made these shortbread walnut (pecan?) cookies with chile powder (probably freshly ground ancho, just a tiny bit). They were fantastic. At T-giving the crowd went wild. I've had friends who had them ask me more than once if I'd make them again, or share the recipe.
I've searched forever and cannot find the recipe. Also, tragically, I didn't keep an electronic version of the recipe, which is very unusual for something that turned out to be good.
I was thinking of just doing shortbread and experimenting adding nuts and chile powder to see if I could replicate them.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 14, 2025 05:45 PM (U/Byj)
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Anybody have a good cookie recipe for a cutout cookie that will retain its shape? My sugar cookies were tasty but kind of blorphed out over the baking sheet.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 05:45 PM (kpS4V)
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CBD does strike me as the guy who gets an iPad and then pours hops directly into it because it is not hoppy enough for him.
This may in fact be the biggest dad joke growner I seen around these parts.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2025 05:45 PM (cYBz/)
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Anybody have a good cookie recipe for a cutout cookie that will retain its shape? My sugar cookies were tasty but kind of blorphed out over the baking sheet.
Posted by: All Hail Eris
Sadly, I do not. All my cookie recipes call for a modicum of blorph.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2025 05:47 PM (cYBz/)
99Sage advice.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 14, 2025 04:22 PM
And in the nick of thyme!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 05:47 PM (0sNs1)
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Moctezuma SA (Dos Equis) used to make a Christmas beer (bock beer I think) called Noche Buena. Beautiful foil labels on the bottles with poinsettias (after all, it's a Mexican weed hybridized by Carl Ecke here in Encinitas years ago to what it has become).
Limited quantities (not sure it ever made it past SoCal). Had to know where to get it. My older brothers always knew, so there was some around. Have no idea whether they still make it.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 14, 2025 05:48 PM (U/Byj)
101but kind of blorphed out over the baking sheet.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 05:45 PM
You know what helps contain blorphing?
Pants.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 05:49 PM (0sNs1)
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There's some trick to cutout cookies that retain their shape, right? Low-H2O butter? Something? Whatever it is my mother knew it, and my sister knows it. Beautiful cutout cookies with perfect shape.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 14, 2025 05:49 PM (U/Byj)
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My Czech grandmother made heavenly Yorkshire pudding, which was known in our family as popovers. Her baking repertoire included amazing Bohemian dishes and pastries. I’m not sure if she learned popovers from English immigrants, or if they are also made in the European mainland too.
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at December 14, 2025 05:50 PM (d9Cw3)
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Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 05:45 PM (kpS4V)
Rose Levy Beranbaum Sugar Cookies:
2 1/4 cup AP flour
1/2 to 1/2 tsp salt (depending on taste)
3/4 cup granulated sugar
1 1/2 sticks unsalted butter (softened)
1 egg
2 tsp orange or lemon zest (the orange is perfect for Christmas)
1 generous tsp vanilla extract
Cream butter and sugar in a mixer (stand is easier) until combined, then add egg, zest and extract. Sift together the flour and salt, then gradually add to the sugar mixture. Gather into a disc in some plastic wrap and refrigerate for 1 hour. When ready to roll, preheat oven to 350, roll dough to at least 1/8 in thickness ( I usually make it slightly thicker for a softer cookie) and cut into shapes. If desired, sprinkle with sanding sugar or sprinkles, then place on a parchment or silpat lined baking sheet leaving 1 inch between cookies, and bake for 10-12 minutes. If you don't use sugar, you can let them cool then decorate with frosting. Enjoy!
Posted by: moki at December 14, 2025 05:58 PM (wLjpr)
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I have stove top oatmeal often, this morning as well. Only milk, cinnamon, raisins and oatmeal.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 05:58 PM (Ia/+0)
Cream 1 cup softened butter with 1 cup sugar.
Mix in 1 egg, 1 teaspoon vanilla.
Mix in dry ingredients: 3 cups flour + 2 teaspoons baking powder.
400* for 8-10, depending on how thin you roll/how your oven runs.
I use parchment paper, and can make ANYTHING with this! My favorite cutter for Christmas is a full leaping reindeer about 4" from head to tail, with three-tined antlers.
This does NOT blorph at all (unless you don't fully allow the dough to come to room temp after freezing.)
Posted by: barbarausa at December 14, 2025 05:59 PM (enw9G)
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103 My Czech grandmother made heavenly Yorkshire pudding, which was known in our family as popovers. Her baking repertoire included amazing Bohemian dishes and pastries. I’m not sure if she learned popovers from English immigrants, or if they are also made in the European mainland too.
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at December 14, 2025 05:50 PM (d9Cw3)
Did she, by chance, make kolaches? The fruit kind with the crumble on top? Did she also, perhaps, leave you a recipe for the kolaches that you would be willing to share?????
Posted by: moki at December 14, 2025 05:59 PM (wLjpr)
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Eris, I do. We've been making these tea cookies for as long as I can remember.
Greek Tea Cookies
1 egg
3/4 cups sugar
2/3 cups cooking oil (nonsense, use butter)
2 Tablespoons orange juice
1 teaspoon each vanilla extract and grated orange peel
2 ¾ cups flour
1 teaspoon baking powder
½ teaspoon salt
In mixing bowl, beat 1 egg. Add sugar slowly. Add oil a little at a time, alternately with orange juice. Stir in grated orange peel and vanilla.
Add half of dry ingredients, mix until smooth. Stir in remaining dry ingredients. Turn out onto lightly floured board. Knead about five turns. Roll to 1/8 inch and cut. Bake 10-12 minutes at 350 degrees. Cool and frost. Makes 3 ½ dozen.
If you don't want them to be orange flavored, you could leave out the orange zest and juice. Probably just reduce the flour by a couple of tablespoons. Or use milk instead.
Use whatever frosting you like to decorate. I just do a glaze of orange juice and powdered sugar.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 06:02 PM (kpS4V)
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I noticed that Deshutes Jubelale has just hit the shelves.
If you've never tried it before it is absolutely a first class winter warmer and Christmas ale.
Buy some. Now! Right now!
Becuz it will disappear very rapidly and then you will be left bereft and alone and a sad specimen indeed as you try to fake a jolly Christmas Spirit.
Posted by: naturalfake
Jolly Rodger is better.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 14, 2025 06:02 PM (mT+6a)
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And thanks Barbara and Dash. A little cookie competition!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 06:04 PM (kpS4V)
123Lol!- your mom is awesome!!
Posted by: moki at December 14, 2025 05:43 PM
We think she's a keeper.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 14, 2025 06:05 PM (Wnv9h)
124Rose Levy Beranbaum Sugar Cookies
Posted by: moki at December 14, 2025 05:58 PM
Rose's cookie recipes are the best, according to Mrs. D.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 06:05 PM (0sNs1)
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Where's the tikka masala??
x.com/piersmorgan/status/2000119097405952407
Posted by: Piers Morgan at December 14, 2025 06:05 PM (gKWVE)
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Rose Levy Beranbaum Sugar Cookies
Posted by: moki at December 14, 2025 05:58 PM
I've never heard of her before. Adding her Cookie Bible to my amazon list.
If I ever meet the scum sucking bastard that invented low flush toilets I'm going to make him drink from my toilet bowl and then kick his ass.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 14, 2025 06:10 PM (2WIwB)
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Eris, after you cut out your cookies and put them on the pan, chill the pan in the fridge for at least ten minutes before you bake them. Should help with the blorphing.
Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2025 06:10 PM (79pEw)
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nurse, it's only fair for all the times I drool over your menus.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 06:11 PM (sDNVV)
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Deshutes Jubelale Would be a great name for an effete Harlem poet by day and hard-boiled private detective by night.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 06:11 PM (kpS4V)
136Gruyere/ bacon Mac and cheese today.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 05:53 PM
Om, nom, nom!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 14, 2025 06:12 PM (Wnv9h)
I did everything I was supposed to and still failed!
*runs away crying*
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 06:13 PM (kpS4V)
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But no. This is the first anniversary of my granddaughter's death two weeks before Christmas last year. Dark time here, I'm afraid.
Posted by: Wenda at December 14, 2025 05:30 PM (A65Zh)
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Oh Wenda, I'm so sorry. This must be an awful time for you. I hope you and your family are able to find some joy in the season at some point.
Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2025 06:13 PM (79pEw)
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RMBS, the little hint of rosemary in it is a nice addition.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 06:14 PM (sDNVV)
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Eris, what my kids and now granddaughter call "shape cookies" are a big thing in our family.
I have maybe a hundred cutters accumulated over the years, sorted in boxes by holiday and occasion, and maybe two dozen miniature scrap cutters, also themed.
I've used this recipe for more than 30 years and it is never-fail, plus tastes good.
One fun thing is to take a regular and a mini, and make cutout sandwich cookies (cutout on half of batch to show the jelly, marmalade or chocolate filling when assembled, so, hearts with raspberry or chocolate, stars with golden marmalade, etc)
and if this thing can handle intricate cutouts without messing up (I do have to be more careful these days as my hands aren't what they were 30+ years ago, lol), then it can do anything.
Posted by: barbarausa at December 14, 2025 06:14 PM (enw9G)
Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2025 06:17 PM (79pEw)
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My FIL (very disciplined as to diet, perhaps contributing to his 92 years!) loved the minis, because then he could have several cookies sans guilt, since each was only about an inch long or wide!
First Christmas without him
Posted by: barbarausa at December 14, 2025 06:18 PM (enw9G)
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4H Pork chops tonight. Asked the butcher to cut them 2" thick. They are tender and delicious. No sous-vide required.
Posted by: Pete Bog at December 14, 2025 06:19 PM (EU9xD)
149Her Christmas cookie cookbook is stunning! - I have one that I cook from and one that is simply for perusing, far from ingredients and messy hands!!
Posted by: moki at December 14, 2025 06:08 PM
Mrs. D also has two. The first is falling apart from use, but she won't get rid of it.
IIRC, there's a Monrovian Spice Cookie recipe in it. We had to run all over town to get the ingredients, including whole nutmeg (for which I impressed her by knowing where to get some).
They taste like gingersnaps at first. It takes two or three to begin to realize they're not, and four or five to really appreciate them. Most folks had one, and said "Nice gingersnaps".
It was decided the reward/effort ratio was insufficient for any repeats.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 06:20 PM (0sNs1)
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Bluebell, I tried a recipe off the internet that insisted Crisco would keep the cookie shape. Ha!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 06:20 PM (kpS4V)
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Did she, by chance, make kolaches? The fruit kind with the crumble on top? Did she also, perhaps, leave you a recipe for the kolaches that you would be willing to share?????
Posted by: moki at December 14, 2025 05:59 PM
Kolaches....are great, but hard to perfect.
Posted by: Idlan idlan at December 14, 2025 06:21 PM (xOTeW)
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Hey Moki: My garndmother made wonderful, yeasty kolaches. Plum butter was her most common filling, because there were plum trees on the property. She also made an amazing soup that I've been working to find a recipe among Czech communities to replicate. She called it (phonetic English pronunciation) "kuh-ponnie" soup. I would describe it as a chicken egg-drop soup that was similar to chicken noodle soup, but it was very eggy, with strands of egg instead of noodles.
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at December 14, 2025 06:21 PM (d9Cw3)
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Well, got the outside chores done. More snow-blowing, and the auger blades kept getting clogged with soggy snow. The little trailer I was going to haul to Calgary and hand off to its new owner, but didn't, because reasons, went back to its accustomed parking place, And the Avanti got started, quite easily, too, and moved back onto the hoist in the shop, where it will winter over. I will take the battery out, put a block of mouse poison on the car floor, and then raise the hoist to the point I can walk under it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 06:21 PM (npFr7)
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Meatloaf, garlic mashed potatoes, and mushroom gravy tonight. Potatoes are frozen leftovers from T-giving, meatloaf's a basic recipe I always use, and the gravy is outstanding. Pretty basic, fresh cremini and dried porcini mushrooms and cooking the shallots in bacon fat probably help it hit a higher level.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 14, 2025 06:22 PM (U/Byj)
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Oh Eris, you poor dear gullible thing, lol. There's your problem.
Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2025 06:22 PM (79pEw)
156I did everything I was supposed to and still failed!
*runs away crying*
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 06:13 PM
You know how a butterfly flapping its wings in Thailand affects the weather in the Amazon?
Don't discount the quantum effects of scofflawing Book Thread traditions.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 06:22 PM (0sNs1)
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Duncanthrax, I always go to the Latino section of the grocery (or the Latino market) for whole nutmeg, stick cinnamon, etc, because the prices are so much better than Mccormick or other name brands, and they always have the whole versions.
Nearly had a conniption in the spice aisle last week, when the only whole nutmeg was McC, at TEN DOLLARS the little bottle.
I am almost out of my little container of nuts from Badia brand , but will use it up this Christmas.
Posted by: barbarausa at December 14, 2025 06:26 PM (enw9G)
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 06:26 PM (sDNVV)
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I know it's winter but I'm working on my pistachio Gelato recipe.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 06:29 PM (sDNVV)
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My son was so impressed with these potatoes I made for him, for his T'giving brunch he comes by for (this is kind of a joke):
I quartered red potatoes, boiled them, left them in fridge overnight. Next morning smashed them in casserole dish, added butter knobs and salt, and put in oven till he got there. Just wanted something extra to serve.
"Mom, these are so good! So smooth" etc. He ate three helpings and took the rest home. I'm like "honey, they're BOILED POTATOES..." But hey, let him think I'm great. I guess I never fixed those when he lived at home.
Posted by: skywch at December 14, 2025 06:29 PM (uqhmb)
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Don't discount the quantum effects of scofflawing Book Thread traditions.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 06:22 PM (0sNs1)
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The pantsless lifestyle is MY tradition. You can't appreciate Catullus without a more relaxed sartorial style.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 06:32 PM (kpS4V)
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Mmmm, mushrooms. There was/is a restaurant in Honolulu where all the dishes were mushroom-based.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 06:35 PM (kpS4V)
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Eris,
I hope you have a peaceful
Christmas. If you want to come to Seattle, you can join me for meals and beach walks.
It will probably rain.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 14, 2025 06:36 PM (mT+6a)
Posted by: man at December 14, 2025 06:36 PM (XuXeR)
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Love the Larson cartoon! I don't believe I've ever seen that one before.
Off-topic, but rightist José Antonio Kast has defeated Communist Party candidate Jeanette Jara Roman to become Chile's new president - and by a substantial margin (58.3% to 41.7%). Crime and immigration played an important role in the election. Mrs. Paco has been celebrating via WhatsApp with her relatives in Chile - much uncorking of Champagne bottles, based on the photos.
Viva Chile!
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 06:36 PM (2L+MU)
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 14, 2025 06:36 PM (mT+6a)
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159 I know it's winter but I'm working on my pistachio Gelato recipe.
Posted by: Ben Had at December
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This would be a lovely palate cleanser after a rich holiday meal.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 06:36 PM (kpS4V)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 06:41 PM (Ia/+0)
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Off-topic, but rightist José Antonio Kast has defeated Communist Party candidate Jeanette Jara Roman to become Chile's new president - and by a substantial margin (58.3% to 41.7%). Crime and immigration played an important role in the election. Mrs. Paco has been celebrating via WhatsApp with her relatives in Chile - much uncorking of Champagne bottles, based on the photos.
Viva Chile!
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 06:36 PM (2L+MU)
I vaguely seem to remember some guy named "Jara" who was a client of Aero Pinochet. I wonder if there is any relation? Would not surprise me, because Communism runs in families.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 06:42 PM (npFr7)
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17 degrees here now. The Cigar Hut status: Deployed.
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 06:42 PM (+1HQm)
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 06:44 PM (sDNVV)
17417 degrees here now. The Cigar Hut status: Deployed.
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 06:42 PM
Headed that way here. It's been snowing on and off all day. Weather forecasters pretend to be surprised by this December weather in New England.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 14, 2025 06:46 PM (Wnv9h)
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Weasel, my weather app says the wind chill is -1. I just stepped into my garage to get some cookies for the family and it was like stepping into a walk-in freezer.
Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2025 06:46 PM (79pEw)
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> 17 degrees here now. The Cigar Hut status: Deployed.
Posted by: Weasel
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I gave up yesterday when it was, like, 12F. I have an ice fishing pop-up, but it cannot withstand the winds here.
* the ground I'd sink the anchors into isn't frosty enough.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 14, 2025 06:47 PM (NwnyJ)
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Well, I have been a luker for at least 20 years. I know I can't be accepted immediately in the comments. But it would be nice if someone, anyone acknowledge that I am here.
Posted by: Idlan idlan at December 14, 2025 06:47 PM (I22t7)
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17 degrees here now. The Cigar Hut status: Deployed.
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 06:42 PM (+1HQm)
Thaw setting in here. It has been about 34-36F all day, with a light South wind. Snow is melting.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 06:48 PM (npFr7)
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Well, I have been a luker for at least 20 years. I know I can't be accepted immediately in the comments. But it would be nice if someone, anyone acknowledge that I am here.
10 years, not 20.
Posted by: Idlan idlan at December 14, 2025 06:49 PM (I22t7)
180I vaguely seem to remember some guy named "Jara" who was a client of Aero Pinochet. I wonder if there is any relation? Would not surprise me, because Communism runs in families. - Alberta Oil Peon[.i]
There is no information available indicating that anyone in her family disappeared or was killed during the period of the military regime. It's always possible, of course, that someone else by that name may have met with an untimely end.
Mrs. Paco's family fled when Allende took power, her father having been informed that they were on a hit list.
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 06:50 PM (2L+MU)
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Hello, Idlan idlan. I suspect many people are like me, popping in periodically between eating dinner, etc. so don't be hurt that people aren't replying. Glad you delurked.
Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2025 06:50 PM (79pEw)
182But it would be nice if someone, anyone acknowledge that I am here.
Posted by: Idlan idlan
Hi hi.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 14, 2025 06:50 PM (3nLb4)
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 14, 2025 06:50 PM (NFX2v)
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I've never had Yorkshire Pudding before, but the one in that pic looks like a dried up Domino's Pizza chocolate lava cake with the lava eaten out of it.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 06:51 PM (6ydKt)
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Well, I have been a luker for at least 20 years. I know I can't be accepted immediately in the comments. But it would be nice if someone, anyone acknowledge that I am here.
Posted by: Idlan idlan at December 14, 2025 06:47 PM (I22t7)
Well, I know from nothing about kolaches, so I didn't respond to your previous comment. Welcome to the Horde! And take heart, nobody has accused you of being a troll!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 06:51 PM (npFr7)
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Posted by: Idlan idlan at December 14, 2025 06:47 PM
Well welcome stranger, shame you didn't pop in in beginning of thread. But pull up a chair and say hello on next one
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 06:52 PM (Ia/+0)
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it would be nice if someone, anyone acknowledge that I am here.
Posted by: Idlan idlan at December 14, 2025 06:47 PM (I22t7)
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Acknowledged.
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 06:52 PM (+1HQm)
Posted by: Bob at December 14, 2025 06:53 PM (YiqZD)
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>>>@95 Years ago I made these shortbread walnut (pecan?) cookies with chile powder (probably freshly ground ancho, just a tiny bit). They were fantastic. I've searched forever and cannot find the recipe ... I was thinking of just doing shortbread and experimenting adding nuts and chile powder to see if I could replicate them. Posted by: rhomboid at December 14, 2025 05:45 PM (U/Byj)
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Greetings, rhombold ... "24 LAP RECIPES" has a Facebook post (from August 2024) for Ancho Chile Shortbread Cookies which might provide a starting point for re-creating your lost recipe ... If the tinyurl link below doesn't work, you can try doing a manual search at the 24 Lap Recipes FB page.
https://tinyurl.com/95nv88h7
Posted by: Kathy at December 14, 2025 06:54 PM (zuKcR)
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Thank you!! I have enjoyed all of the articles, and especially the comments. I feel like I know you all.
Posted by: Idlan idlan at December 14, 2025 06:52 PM (I22t7)
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Careful around bluebell. She's dangerous!
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 06:54 PM (+1HQm)
Posted by: Obligatory Seinfeld Reference at December 14, 2025 07:01 PM (2Ez/1)
210Where did you buy? Even Trader Joe's is selling their chocolate chips for $4...
And I got a Guittard bag of really dark chocolate chips from Amazon for under $6...
Posted by: Nova Loca
I wanted Guittard, because they're better than Ghirardelli, but they were $7 at Winco, so I tried to buy Ghirardelli, which were only $4. And then my debit card was declined and I can't check my balance on the go because dumb phone, so I went to Rosauers and bought Ghirardelli on credit for $8.
My financial choices have not been great today.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 14, 2025 07:01 PM (i00+Z)
211
I've seen this meme so much that I've got to ask.
Who was the poor unlucky soul who piped up that they like carrots in chili?
They're getting almost as bad as TJM and Prometheus and garrett and crocs.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 07:01 PM (6ydKt)
212
There is no information available indicating that anyone in her family disappeared or was killed during the period of the military regime. It's always possible, of course, that someone else by that name may have met with an untimely end.
Mrs. Paco's family fled when Allende took power, her father having been informed that they were on a hit list.
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 06:50 PM (2L+MU)
I was thinking of the poet-folk singer-leftwing activist Victor Jara, who was shot by the military within a week or two of Pinochet's coup.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 07:03 PM (npFr7)
213
Thank you all, for acknowledging me. I have had a few rough years, and checking in on you several times a day has helped me.
I have to take care of my dogs, and make my Sunday calls to family. Have a great night.
Posted by: Idlan idlan at December 14, 2025 07:03 PM (I22t7)
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 07:03 PM (6ydKt)
215Duncanthrax, it cracks me up that you remember that car rental. It was 9 years ago, if you can believe it.
Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2025 06:59 PM
IIRC, it was the number of speeding tickets you racked up in such a short period of time that led to some of your incarcerations.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 07:03 PM (0sNs1)
Two people were found dead inside a Brentwood home owned by director and actor Rob Reiner on Sunday, December 14, 2025, according to multiple law enforcement sources and news outlets.
The Los Angeles Fire Department was called to the residence on Chadbourne Ave. around 3:30 p.m. PT, where they discovered a man, approximately 78 years old, and a woman, approximately 68 years old.
Coincidentally, Rob Reiner and his wife are 78 and 68 years old.
Posted by: t-bird at December 14, 2025 09:35 PM (oAqqA)
222Who was the poor unlucky soul who piped up that they like carrots in chili?
I think BCocharan (BCocharan1981? He had some number) was the carrots in chili guy.
Posted by: t-bird at December 14, 2025 09:38 PM (oAqqA)
First World Problems...
Is there any purpose to over-long laces? Is it some hipster code for "I bought the coolest hiking shoes?" Or is it a testament to the inability of shoe companies to use measuring equipment?
Am I supposed to double-knot, or maybe triple-knot? These things are long enough to tow a boat off the rocks!
Obviously I have to discard these shoes, and probably rebuild the closet in which they are stored. It might be easier to start over...raze the house and build new!
[1:58? A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds]
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 02:06 PM (KDPiq)
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They make the laces long to cover the most people with the least effort. Wide feet, or those with humpy, lumpy, insteps poison the shoelace market for those with slim, normal size 13 feet like me. We live in a fallen world and are in the midst of Judgement Day. The shoelace problem is just a symptom, irregardless.
Posted by: Tortured Sole at December 14, 2025 02:07 PM (oftw2)
15
My 1WP is having to go outside again, put stuff in trunk for tomorrow and clean a bit more of Global Warming off the driveway and deck
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 02:07 PM (Ia/+0)
I don't think that can be done.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
I sympathize. That unlacing and relacing can get pretty complicated. Of course you could always cut off a bit on the too long laces. But then you'd have frayed ends. As you like to say "the struggle is real."
Posted by: Tuna at December 14, 2025 02:08 PM (lJ0H4)
Some men can do it, some can't. A man who can tie knots, like, all kinds of knots, is sure to be handy and able to do lots of things.
It's a true skill. One that requires both high-IQ thinking and a good memory.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 02:09 PM (kjnCv)
18
No TV repairmen, nor cobblers, anymore. And what of the shoemaker's daughter?
Posted by: Ready To Give Her All at December 14, 2025 02:11 PM (oftw2)
19
Try the so called speed laces on my steel toes.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 14, 2025 02:11 PM (4786I)
20
Artifact from when shoe lace cord could be used in certain survival applications. On ankle high boots, there used to be a hook above the heel. You'd wrap the excess lace around the back of the boot and have cord for an emergency. Each lace was approx. 2x the necessary length. Thus, you could use one lace in an emergency, and cut the other in half and still tie your boots.
Posted by: RS at December 14, 2025 02:11 PM (SuU/K)
21 Once in a while you find an actual good, informative video on Youtube.
"What The Heck Is (Are) 4 Ways of Carrying Sheet Goods When You Are By Yourself"
https://is.gd/2ERN3R
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 02:12 PM (kjnCv)
Posted by: It Never Ends! at December 14, 2025 02:13 PM (oftw2)
23
So when itt breaks in half there is still enough to keep the shoe on your foot
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 02:13 PM (Ia/+0)
24
You could go out in public with house shoes. People do it all the time now as it is cool to go around in public looking like you just got out of bed. (This country is so full of total slobs…
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 14, 2025 02:13 PM (4786I)
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Shoe laces? You mean actually wearing shoes with laces? Why? Next thing you'll be wanting me to get out of my Mom's basement and get a job or something instead of playing video games and smoking weed all day. No thanks!
Posted by: 35 year old Sonny Drysdale, Original Monster Child at December 14, 2025 02:13 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 14, 2025 02:14 PM (2Ez/1)
28
The only time I had detention in high school, I met a neat girl who wore platform shoes that laced up her calves. Also, hot pants and a halter top. Lovely ginger with luminous skin. Hardly noticed the laces were so long.
Posted by: Depends On The Context at December 14, 2025 02:16 PM (oftw2)
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You could go out in public with house shoes. People do it all the time now as it is cool to go around in public looking like you just got out of bed. (This country is so full of total slobs…
Posted by: Cow Demon
Saw a woman with her little girl in the grocery store yesterday. The child was dressed just fine but mom had on clogs that looked like slippers and som nasty looking old pajama pants. What a world.
Posted by: Tuna at December 14, 2025 02:16 PM (lJ0H4)
30
Long laces: on work and hiking boots, long laces allow the wearer to get extra purchase on them to to pull them really tight, so the boot doesn't slop around on his foot and cause blisters. And the extra laces can be wrapped around the ankle area and tied in front.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 02:17 PM (npFr7)
31 But this is the video I wanted to show you. Here's a man who can Tie Knots and shares his knowledge.
He teaches you how to make a "Sheet Bend" knot so you can large things like a full 4x8 sheet of plywood:
https://is.gd/XWrLfu
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 02:17 PM (kjnCv)
32
Try my patented MySlippers. Comfortable suede, no laces, gel inserts. Need your help as I'm now running for MN Governor. Promo code MORON.
Posted by: Mike Lindell at December 14, 2025 02:18 PM (oftw2)
33
You could always wear Crocs. ... Ducks , runs away
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 14, 2025 02:19 PM (D+mpw)
34
Laces are too short - you should be able to wrap at least once around the boot before trying into a pretty bow knot.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 14, 2025 02:19 PM (/lPRQ)
35
Cut the laces, put 1 inch of small diameter clear, or black shrink tube on the end, hit it with a lighter or heat gun to shrink it, problem solved.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 14, 2025 02:19 PM (snZF9)
36
I've never seen ceramic tile like that in a bowling alley. Must be upscale.
Posted by: Rizzuto-Berra Bowl at December 14, 2025 02:19 PM (oftw2)
37Too much trouble to replace the long laces with shorter ones?
Posted by: Tuna
Wait...what?
I don't think that can be done.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
And how would you get the colors to match perfectly?
Posted by: mikeski at December 14, 2025 02:19 PM (nhCoE)
38 Boy Scouts are all fags, now, so no one will be able to tie knots in another generation.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 02:19 PM (kjnCv)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 14, 2025 02:20 PM (ynpvh)
41
I'm left wondering about foolish inconsistencies.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2025 02:21 PM (XeU6L)
42 The only time I had detention in high school, I met a neat girl who wore platform shoes that laced up her calves. Also, hot pants and a halter top. Lovely ginger with luminous skin. Hardly noticed the laces were so long.
Posted by: Depends On The Context
Hopefully, you meant "the first time I had detention."
And she wasn't there the next day.
Posted by: mikeski at December 14, 2025 02:22 PM (nhCoE)
43
Nice choice of tile, contrasts nicely w the shoe without stealing the show. Jaunty camera angle accentuates the craftsmanship of the shoe, while the grout lines draw the viewers eye to the FWP at hand.
Posted by: Heirloominati at December 14, 2025 02:22 PM (euPbd)
44
I cut 'em off with a knife, then seal the ends with a lighter flame.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 14, 2025 02:23 PM (Cjt/F)
45
Boy Scouts are all fags, now, so no one will be able to tie knots in another generation.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 02:19 PM (kjnCv)
From what I've seen all they do these days is sit around and tie knots. No camping, no climbing, no canoeing, or kayaks, or hiking, nada.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 14, 2025 02:23 PM (snZF9)
46
[1:58? A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds]
Posted by CBD at 01:58 PM Comments
And on the other hand, a wise consistency is a steerer of self-control.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 02:24 PM (RuTUS)
47
They're only useful if you're tying special knots known only to the Illumiknotty.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at December 14, 2025 02:24 PM (pIfcn)
48
It is not nice outside windy, snow bowing off trees
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 02:24 PM (Ia/+0)
49
Andy Warhol could’ve turned that pic into a screen print and made millions.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 02:25 PM (6ydKt)
50
shrink tube is good too, specially the kind that has a hot-melt-glue lining.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 14, 2025 02:25 PM (Cjt/F)
51
I cut 'em off with a knife, then seal the ends with a lighter flame.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 14, 2025 02:23 PM (Cjt/F)
yeah if they're the melty kind, or else you got a slow burning wick. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 14, 2025 02:25 PM (snZF9)
52And on the other hand, a wise consistency is a steerer of self-control.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 02:24 PM (RuTUS)
Is the "steerer" the one that cuts their nuts off?
Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 02:26 PM (rbvCR)
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52 And on the other hand, a wise consistency is a steerer of self-control.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 02:24 PM (RuTUS)
Is the "steerer" the one that cuts their nuts off?
Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 02:26 PM (rbvCR)
Those would be "de-steerers."
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 02:27 PM (RuTUS)
54
autocucumber deserves an FWP thread all to itself
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 14, 2025 02:27 PM (Cjt/F)
55
With hockey skates forever I'd have long laces and just wrap the extra around the achilles guard on the back of the boot before tying off. Now I get shorter laces.
Same with these nice Keen boots I use. Switched to shorter laces, no wrap-arounds.
With hockey skates question remains of waxed/unwaxed laces. Waxed will lock up nicely, preventing loosening during skating, but if you over-tighten they'll get uncomfortable.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 14, 2025 02:27 PM (U/Byj)
56 From what I've seen all they do these days is sit around and tie knots. No camping, no climbing, no canoeing, or kayaks, or hiking, nada.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 14, 2025 02:23 PM (snZF9)
As a former Boy Scout I find all this depressing.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 14, 2025 02:28 PM (4786I)
57
FWP - starting chili on a 26 degree morning only to realize you are out of half the stuff needed. 😡
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2025 02:28 PM (QVuuq)
58FWP - starting chili on a 26 degree morning only to realize you are out of half the stuff needed. 😡
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2025 02:28 PM (QVuuq)
If you have beans, carrots and cumin you are golden.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 02:29 PM (rbvCR)
59
Boy Scouts are all fags, now, so no one will be able to tie knots in another generation.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts
From what I've seen all they do these days is sit around and tie knots. No camping, no climbing, no canoeing, or kayaks, or hiking, nada.
Posted by: Berserker
And just forget about earning a 'Stalking' Merit Badge these days!!
Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2025 02:29 PM (cYBz/)
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Don't have a heat gun so maybe I'll try the torch lighter thing next time the ends of the hockey laces unravel. The laces will have 50% of their life left when this usually happens, so it's annoying.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 14, 2025 02:29 PM (U/Byj)
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" ... or else you got a slow burning wick. lol"
perfect for a matchlock or old style cannon!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 14, 2025 02:29 PM (Cjt/F)
62
It's a budget move. Instead of producing a wealth of different sized laces to accommodate some professional hiking lace techniques like "heel-lock" lacing rather than the usual pedestrian type lacing, they settled on a one size fits all. And, I can't fault them for that. Your "one size fits all" is going to be extra long to satisfy everyone.
BTW, do you own a scissors? And, do you have $6? You can get an aglet applicator with a wealth of choices from Walmart.
Posted by: Orson at December 14, 2025 02:32 PM (dIske)
63
Well, if they are true 550 para, then it just might save your life, padawan. Also, you need to hide 3 knives in your butt.
Posted by: weft cut loop at December 14, 2025 02:32 PM (mlg/3)
64
Nice shoes, CBD. How long did the doctor say you had to wear those?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 14, 2025 02:32 PM (2UnvF)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 02:35 PM (Ia/+0)
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FWP - starting chili on a 26 degree morning only to realize you are out of half the stuff needed. 😡
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2025 02:28 PM (QVuuq)
What does the outside temp have to do with it?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 14, 2025 02:35 PM (udlma)
70I can't find a Solitaire app I like for the new phone
all is lost...
Posted by: Don Black at December 14, 2025 02:34 PM (ZxPkt)
Fate is telling you to play Snake and like it.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 02:36 PM (rbvCR)
71
According to CAP CHARLES, it's a legacy of military footware. Overly long laces can be useful sometimes in the field.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 14, 2025 02:36 PM (XjTSo)
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64 Nice shoes, CBD. How long did the doctor say you had to wear those?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 14, 2025 02:32 PM
LOL
Winner!
Posted by: Heirloominati, needed that belly laugh at December 14, 2025 02:36 PM (euPbd)
73
Here's the thing about shoelaces. Just when you need them most, they fail.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 14, 2025 02:36 PM (2WIwB)
74
I have to go out an hang chicken wire on the back fence so the neighbors' chickens stop coming into my yard.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 02:37 PM (rbvCR)
75
From what I've seen all they do these days is sit around and tie knots. No camping, no climbing, no canoeing, or kayaks, or hiking, nada.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 14, 2025 02:23 PM (snZF9)
All that stuff is toxic masculinity. Sitting down, docile, is what the left wants men to become.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 14, 2025 02:37 PM (udlma)
76
Nice choice of tile, contrasts nicely w the shoe without stealing the show.
Posted by: Heirloominati at December 14, 2025 02:22 PM (euPbd)
Posted by: The Cobbler kid at December 14, 2025 02:43 PM (VF6cf)
84
68 25 degrees out, and I'm inside now
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It's 11 here, but the current wind chill makes it a breezy -2! Not going anywhere today!
Posted by: exdem13 at December 14, 2025 02:43 PM (XjTSo)
85
Here's the thing about shoelaces. Just when you need them most, they fail.
Posted by: Diogenes
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Generaly accompanied by a vulgar expletive.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2025 02:44 PM (XeU6L)
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77 Well, outside temperature has shot up, shot up, I say, to above freezing, so I shall go outside and do stuff, and not freeze my azz off.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
That's 'cuz you sent the Frozen Clipper South and East to us!
Posted by: Shiver Me Timbers! at December 14, 2025 02:44 PM (oftw2)
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at December 14, 2025 02:48 PM (DsA2n)
92
Despite it being ass-biting cold here at Little Oaxaca on the Miami, Smoke the cat went out for 3 hours earlier this morning. He's a true outdoors cat! Then he came in & complained because he could see the bottom of his food dish, like a proper cat would.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 14, 2025 02:48 PM (XjTSo)
93
Wider feet require would barely allow enough lace left to tie. This person has skinny, skinny feet.
Posted by: Victoria
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We have analyzed the photo, and ID'd this person's shoe size, and, extrapolated that to height/weight/ sex gender.
Posted by: Bob, at the NSA at December 14, 2025 02:49 PM (XeU6L)
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90 Does anyone use leather laces anymore? The kind you used to find on white soled, brown boat shoes.
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I have leather laces, but only for my moccasin house shoes (which Smoke uses as toys) or my Rennie shoes & boots.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 14, 2025 02:49 PM (XjTSo)
95 I would love to have a Washer & Dryer in the garage. And a Washer & Dryer in the Master Bedroom. And a Washer & Dryer in laundry room.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 02:50 PM (kjnCv)
96
Looking forward to another great week of news about our Trump economy !
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 14, 2025 02:51 PM (eoWeL)
97 That's 'cuz you sent the Frozen Clipper South and East to us!
Posted by: Shiver Me Timbers
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Just hope that he remembers to close the door behind him when he heads south.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2025 02:51 PM (XeU6L)
98
I thought the FWP was going to be that you don't know how to tie your shoelaces.
Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2025 02:51 PM (79pEw)
99 My grandma had a Full Kitchen in the Basement. And the Living Room? Totally off-limits. Yes, covered with plastic, too.
The Ginzos here know what I'm talking about.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 02:52 PM (kjnCv)
100
Running shoe laces nowadays take on a tiny permanent stretch each time you lace them tight. I have to buy replacement shorter laces after a couple months for my running/walking shoes. Or I end-up with huge floppy loops and long ends that I can hardly keep from hitting the ground each step, long before I wear out the shoes! ( I replace them after 4-5 months; keeps me from having arch problems.)
I do not recall having this lace-stretching problem until 5 or so years ago. Intolerable cost-cutting BS if you ask me. Damned FWP, for damn sure!
Posted by: Gref at December 14, 2025 02:52 PM (5rh/l)
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 14, 2025 02:52 PM (mT+6a)
102
I would love to have a Washer & Dryer in the garage. And a Washer & Dryer in the Master Bedroom. And a Washer & Dryer in laundry room.
Posted by: Soothsayer
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I want an all-tile bathroom that can be pressure washed.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2025 02:52 PM (XeU6L)
Nurse: We didn't forget. [pulls apart blood pressure cuff]
Morty Seinfeld: Ah! It's Velcro. I can't stand Velcro. It's that tearing sound. I used to be in raincoats. I refused to put that in any of my lines.
Posted by: Obligatory Seinfeld reference at December 14, 2025 02:54 PM (2Ez/1)
104
Yes, autocorrect would be a good subject for FWP
I just got one today "Prayers for bothering and T."
Bothering ? I didn't ask the person what "bothering" was supposed to be.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2025 02:54 PM (rZCVI)
105
From what I've seen all they do these days is sit around and tie knots. No camping, no climbing, no canoeing, or kayaks, or hiking, nada.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
My grandsons' troops do the camping, climbing, canoeing and hiking to the max. I think it depends on the leader.
Posted by: Tuna at December 14, 2025 02:54 PM (lJ0H4)
106 Yeah, all the major cooking would be done in the downstairs kitchen in Gramma's house, and the upstairs kitchen would be in Showroom condition.
Damn, I can still smell that house if I think about it...
It smelled like Love and macaroni and "gravy" (red sauce) chicken and rice and baklava.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 02:55 PM (kjnCv)
107
Running shoe laces nowadays take on a tiny permanent stretch each time you lace them tight. I have to buy replacement shorter laces after a couple months for my running/walking shoes. Or I end-up with huge floppy loops and long ends that I can hardly keep from hitting the ground each step, long before I wear out the shoes! ( I replace them after 4-5 months; keeps me from having arch problems.)
I do not recall having this lace-stretching problem until 5 or so years ago. Intolerable cost-cutting BS if you ask me. Damned FWP, for damn sure!
Posted by: Gref
Cut the excess length off and make your own aglets with shrink tubing.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2025 02:55 PM (QVuuq)
108
Better than too short laces, like the ones on my newish Skechers. No, I didn't buy new ones yet, because I so rarely leave the house in these post-Covid days.
Posted by: jocon307 at December 14, 2025 02:56 PM (EuROc)
109
You know, we should have self-cleaning toilets by now. And showers that don't collect that weird film. Where the hell are you Toto?
Posted by: weft cut loop at December 14, 2025 02:56 PM (mlg/3)
110
So you can smuggle suicide nooses into prison, duh!!!
Posted by: Adriane the Lack of Vacuum Critic. . . at December 14, 2025 02:56 PM (4ZgcQ)
111 I want an all-tile bathroom that can be pressure washed.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
Oh yeah, with industrial drains in the floor!
Didn't we discuss this before?
We decided on STAINLESS STEEL.
The whole entire house...Stainless Steel. That's my dream house.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 02:56 PM (kjnCv)
112 In a headline on Daily Mail, Underprepared police.
UNDERPREPARED?
You're the police! Being underprepared is not acceptable.
Posted by: fourseasons at December 14, 2025 02:58 PM (3ek7K)
Thank you!
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 14, 2025 02:52 PM (mT+6a)
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😊
Posted by: bluebell at December 14, 2025 02:58 PM (79pEw)
114 He wears tan shoes with pink shoelaces
A polka dot vest and man, oh, man
Tan shoes with pink shoelaces
And a big Panama with a purple hat band
Posted by: Dodie Stevens at December 14, 2025 02:58 PM (2Ez/1)
115
I rented an Airbnb in Hawaii that had washer and dryer outdoors. Which was kinda weird at first to see. But makes sense. It never gets cold enough to worry about lines freezing and eliminated the need for a dedicated laundry room. Plus if there’s ever a pipe leak or something, whatever it’s outdoors.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 14, 2025 02:59 PM (udlma)
116
Didn't we discuss this before?
We decided on STAINLESS STEEL.
The whole entire house...Stainless Steel. That's my dream house.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 02:56 PM (kjnCv)
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Careful...that's how you get stainless steel rats...
117
In a headline on Daily Mail, Underprepared police.
UNDERPREPARED?
You're the police! Being underprepared is not acceptable.
Posted by: fourseasons
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Defunding is the answer!
Posted by: Left/Liberal/Progressives/Dems at December 14, 2025 03:01 PM (XeU6L)
118
Metal aglets of all sizes are widely available at low prices. You can slice the laces at the desired length, and affix new aglets to the frayed ends.
Posted by: Sartorial Facts at December 14, 2025 03:01 PM (BI5O2)
119
Cognac was made for these kind of days
Warms the body and soul
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 03:01 PM (Ia/+0)
120I rented an Airbnb in Hawaii that had washer and dryer outdoors. Which was kinda weird at first to see. But makes sense.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
My apartment in Japan had a tiny washer on the balcony. It looked like a plastic toy washer you'd buy for your daughter. Had to hang dry everything above it.
Posted by: weft cut loop at December 14, 2025 03:01 PM (mlg/3)
121
111
I want an all-tile bathroom that can be pressure washed.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
Oh yeah, with industrial drains in the floor!
Didn't we discuss this before?
We decided on STAINLESS STEEL.
The whole entire house...Stainless Steel. That's my dream house.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 02:56 PM (kjnCv)
Inside layer of stainless steel, outside layer of stainless steel. Live inside a Faraday cage...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 14, 2025 03:02 PM (ynpvh)
122
Mossad says they warned the Aussies about a potential attack. So underprepared is that much worse.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 14, 2025 03:02 PM (udlma)
123
You can get elastic drawstring laces on Amazon (lock laces, I think we're the brand name for the one I got.) Fantastic- especially for boots.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 14, 2025 03:02 PM (zZu0s)
124
118 Metal aglets of all sizes are widely available at low prices. You can slice the laces at the desired length, and affix new aglets to the frayed ends.
Posted by: Sartorial Facts at December 14, 2025 03:01 PM (BI5O2)
If he wanted to he could roughly cut each one, tie up each end so they never come out of the shoes again. Is it any good? Naw, frayed knot.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 14, 2025 03:03 PM (ynpvh)
125
Idiot could not even flip a coin correctly at the army navy game
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 14, 2025 03:03 PM (1iTdO)
126
Metal aglets of all sizes are widely available at low prices. You can slice the laces at the desired length, and affix new aglets to the frayed ends.
Posted by: Sartorial Facts
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Ah!
[adds 'aglet-crimper' to tool wish list]
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2025 03:03 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 03:04 PM (kjnCv)
Thanks! The prep (purge) starts soon, already had my liquid lunch in prep.
Things should go well as long as there's enough intestine for each end to meet...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 14, 2025 03:06 PM (ynpvh)
131
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."
Reading this quote today made me just realize that people with OCD have been around for a LONG time.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 14, 2025 03:07 PM (HlyYF)
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at December 14, 2025 03:07 PM (XDjhC)
133
My apartment in Japan had a tiny washer on the balcony. It looked like a plastic toy washer you'd buy for your daughter. Had to hang dry everything above it.
Posted by: weft cut loop
Hand operated washing machine. You can also use it to make minute rice.
https://tinyurl.com/57w9dmdn
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2025 03:07 PM (QVuuq)
134
131 "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."
Reading this quote today made me just realize that people with OCD have been around for a LONG time.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at December 14, 2025 03:07 PM (HlyYF)
I'm down with OCD,
Yeah, you know me...
Posted by: Naughty by Nature at December 14, 2025 03:08 PM (ynpvh)
135
Shoes and laces.
1. There are no bridges in the Navy.
2. Laces go right over left on right shoe.
Laces go left over right on left shoe.
- how it was in 68
Posted by: Eromero at December 14, 2025 03:08 PM (fHsz8)
136
Another one you could do is wind the laces around your ankles after doing the crossover but before tying the knot.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 14, 2025 03:09 PM (zZu0s)
137
133 My apartment in Japan had a tiny washer on the balcony. It looked like a plastic toy washer you'd buy for your daughter. Had to hang dry everything above it.
Posted by: weft cut loop
Hand operated washing machine. You can also use it to make minute rice.
https://tinyurl.com/57w9dmdn
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2025 03:07 PM (QVuuq)
Washing clothes the hard way, one piece at a time...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 14, 2025 03:09 PM (ynpvh)
138
wind the laces around your ankles after doing the crossover but before tying the knot."
Sounds like a kinky wedding...
Posted by: man at December 14, 2025 03:10 PM (XuXeR)
139
Aetius451AD, my husband has some elastic no-tie laces (Xpand) that he loves as well.
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at December 14, 2025 03:12 PM (FEVMW)
140
Another one you could do is wind the laces around your ankles after doing the crossover but before tying the knot.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
And leather boots are still in style for manly footwear
Beads and Roman sandals won't be seen
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2025 03:13 PM (QVuuq)
141
I recently got a pair of shoes that have elastic laces, knotted on each end, so you don't tie them. I cannot tolerate them, as I have a high arch and don't like shoes to even approach squeezing my feet from any direction.
The FWP is that those elastic laces were almost perfectly color-matched. And the color is a distinct shade of brown, and I'm unable to find a lace that is an acceptable color.
Maybe I'll just have to go wild, and put in some green ones or some such.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 03:15 PM (Ia/+0)
144
And, in a moment of insight, the significance of "straitlaced", finally settles on me.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2025 03:15 PM (XeU6L)
145
I want an all-tile bathroom that can be pressure washed.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
Oh yeah, with industrial drains in the floor!
Didn't we discuss this before?
We decided on STAINLESS STEEL.
The whole entire house...Stainless Steel. That's my dream house.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 02:56 PM (kjnCv)
How soon they forget my Dymaxion bathroom!
Posted by: zombie Buckminster Fuller at December 14, 2025 03:15 PM (npFr7)
146
I like long hiking boot laces so I can double knot them.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 14, 2025 03:16 PM (3uBP9)
147
Where is the physical store, convenient to you, where you can buy all the types and colors of shoe laces, in the various shapes (round, oval, flat), tips, patterns, you would need to re-lace your shoes?
It ain't Walmart. Nor Target. Nor a discount box like DSW. It ain't anywhere near me, and I'm in a big rich metro area, Bentleys in the parking lots.
I re-laced a couple pairs of shoes recently, took out the old, measured, and got exactly what I wanted on Amazon.
Posted by: M. Gaga at December 14, 2025 03:17 PM (KiBMU)
148
Wait, did you not put both laces through the loop in the tongue? SHAME! SHAAAAAAME!
Posted by: banana Dream at December 14, 2025 03:19 PM (3uBP9)
149 How soon they forget my Dymaxion bathroom!
Posted by: zombie Buckminster Fuller
Holy obscure reference, Batman!
You forget where you are.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 03:19 PM (kjnCv)
Posted by: Jane at December 14, 2025 03:21 PM (iRNEC)
151
My feet are skinny, but long, with no humpy instep. Same FWP as CBD. My son and I were riding bikes in Kitty Hawk and had to cross NC12, six lanes wide in that location. So we're scooting across, and felt my shoe lace get caught up in the pedal, couldn't stop and with a one-speed coaster brake, you can't pedal backward to loosen it.
On the other side, I'm sitting there with my foot being strangled, too tight to get the shoe off. Neither one of us had a knife, but a passerby did and I had to slice it off.
Posted by: Profiles In Courage at December 14, 2025 03:21 PM (oftw2)
152
107 Running shoe laces nowadays take on a tiny permanent stretch each time you lace them tight. I have to buy replacement shorter laces after a couple months for my running/walking shoes. Or I end-up with huge floppy loops and long ends that I can hardly keep from hitting the ground each step, long before I wear out the shoes! ( I replace them after 4-5 months; keeps me from having arch problems.)
I do not recall having this lace-stretching problem until 5 or so years ago. Intolerable cost-cutting BS if you ask me. Damned FWP, for damn sure!
Posted by: Gref
Cut the excess length off and make your own aglets with shrink tubing.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 14, 2025 02:55 PM (QVuuq)
Perform work?????
Posted by: Gref at December 14, 2025 03:22 PM (5rh/l)
153
That shoe looked like a dead roach on this phone
Posted by: gKWVE at December 14, 2025 03:22 PM (jDwjk)
154
As others have pointed out, you're supposed to wrap them around the back of the shoe (there should be a loop back there on hiking-style boots).
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at December 14, 2025 03:23 PM (XMwZJ)
155
You've gotta use a sheepshank.
Posted by: Jane at December 14, 2025 03:21 PM (iRNEC)
Jane, best not use the s word with bluebell around…
Posted by: RI Red at December 14, 2025 03:25 PM (bnOop)
156I want an all-tile bathroom that can be pressure washed.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
FlexSeal the whole thing, except for the actual plumbing fixtures.
Posted by: mikeski at December 14, 2025 03:26 PM (nhCoE)
159
I bought a pair of shoes that had two different length laces. The left shoe was about 18" whereas the right one was 26". Bugged the crap out of me. So I bought two the same length and re-laced them.
Re-lacing, and getting them even, is an talent that I do not have.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 14, 2025 03:28 PM (NwnyJ)
160
ßeeing another video of Bondi shooting, at Legalinsurrection.com video just looking down the bridge, one Gunman leaves the bridge. A different video of his actions he gets disarmed by a bystander who then fires shots at him.
After returning to bridge goes down for good. So either bystander hits him on way back or at bridge or other return fire hits #1 then later #2 Gunman.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 03:29 PM (Ia/+0)
Posted by: IrishEi at December 14, 2025 03:31 PM (3ImbR)
162
I see a video from nux on the Australia thing.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 14, 2025 03:31 PM (zZu0s)
163
Maybe your feet are too skinny.
Posted by: IrishEi at December 14, 2025 03:31 PM (3ImbR)
I have the opposite problem. Fairly short feet but need the widest width I can fine.
Some 'wide' widths, aren't.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 14, 2025 03:32 PM (zZu0s)
164
Re leather laces. I still use them on Sperry Topsiders.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2025 03:33 PM (XeU6L)
165
Those laces are extra fat hiking laces. Yes, you're supposed to double knot them, they won't stay tied otherwise.
Posted by: Sshdft at December 14, 2025 03:34 PM (A9R2x)
166 ßeeing another video of Bondi shooting..
Posted by: Skip
How did you manage the fancy "B?"
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 03:36 PM (kjnCv)
167
Bondi shooting. I've been trying to ID the weapons from the video(s). Any thoughts?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2025 03:36 PM (XeU6L)
168
Hete is a 1WP, Legalinsurrection.com Sundowner's library donations have dried up
Guess that Biden name isn't worth a nickle now
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 03:38 PM (Ia/+0)
169
The guy at the shoestore says I have a high instep and to lace my shoes in this unusual way that does fit better, but creates loops that use up long shoelaces.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 03:39 PM (9ipOP)
170
The guy at the shoestore says I have a high instep and to lace my shoes in this unusual way that does fit better, but creates loops that use up long shoelaces.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
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Now, if we just had those foot x-ray machines, this would be easier.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2025 03:41 PM (XeU6L)
171
Read AKs but #2 Gunman who stays on bridge looks to have a shotgun, drops it, goes to far side of bridge while firing a long rifle with scope then returns to dropped weapon. From muzzle flash and smoke I think looks to be a shotgun
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 03:41 PM (Ia/+0)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 14, 2025 03:51 PM (zZu0s)
179
If #1 Gunman was killed bystander might be charged in Australia
Who knows?
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 03:53 PM (Ia/+0)
180
Well-fitting shoes are very helpful in avoiding wobbly sh*t stance.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 03:53 PM (0sNs1)
181
if you've ever failed at starting a fire by rubbing two sticks together you'd understand their importance ; )
Posted by: uglykidmoe at December 14, 2025 03:55 PM (D004a)
182
Buy some Red Wing boots with the metal hooks for the laces to go back-and-forth before tying. Problem solved! Plus, you'll look useful.
Speaking of which, one of my brothers has been buying items for his church's "giving tree". Lots of requests for unisex coats. He kept looking around and couldn't find them. A helpful employee told him the young people don't want regular coats anymore.
They want Carhartts.
Now I'm picturing fashionistas wearing an ensemble of Carhartt jacket, pijamas, and crocs.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 14, 2025 03:55 PM (TMIFi)
183
For more information on why Weasel abjures wobbly sh*t, tune in to the Gub Thread, hosted every Sunday evening right here on AoSHQ.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 03:56 PM (0sNs1)
184
" A different video of his actions he gets disarmed by a bystander who then fires shots at him.
After returning to bridge goes down for good. So either bystander hits him on way back or at bridge or other return fire hits #1 then later #2 Gunman."
The guy that disarmed one gunman was shot twice, but seemed stable. I think the guy on the bridge shot when he saw his partner in trouble.
And the Brown shooter apparently came from Wisconsin.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 14, 2025 03:56 PM (vbXSk)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 03:57 PM (0sNs1)
188
I don't know this account, but Instapundit reposted this post:
@DigitalGalX
2h
🚨 BREAKING: In a rare development, the White House has lifted a “lid” and ordered reporters to return immediately.
This move comes amid growing reports that the President may deliver an “address to the nation.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 03:59 PM (RuTUS)
189
Recently bought a long sleeve pocket Henley from Duluth Trading. Love the weight of the fabric and the long tail.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 14, 2025 03:59 PM (2Ez/1)
190
The Carharttbi bought this last time for a heavy coat is an 'Extremes' (with a weird thing on the x.) Really warm for the weight. Although today (12 out there) I wish I had gone with a thigh length instead of jacket length.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 14, 2025 04:00 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 04:01 PM (Ia/+0)
193
I've heard a rumor that knowledge and demonstration of the Style Guide is going to be more heavily-weighted in this year's Annual Commenter Review scoring.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 04:02 PM (0sNs1)
194
Duncanthrax wrote Nood in Dwarven Rhuns
Very clever
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 04:02 PM (Ia/+0)
195
Duluth Trading >>>> Carhartts
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 03:57 PM (0sNs1)
Yes.
Also...
Stormy Kromer >> LL Bean caps
My well-worn Red Wing boots >> the new Timberland crap
Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 14, 2025 04:04 PM (TMIFi)
196
The extra-long laces can be used to blouse the trousers, as a tick preventive.
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at December 14, 2025 04:29 PM (bufu1)
197
What I shall not stand for is the boot with two upper hooks for the laces that don't fucking hook! Fire those boot engineers!
Get with the program.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 14, 2025 04:58 PM (1zOXE)
Cut off the ends of the too-long laces to your specs.
Apply super glue to cut ends and let dry.
VOY-la!! Shortened and with sturdy tips!
Posted by: noam sayen at December 14, 2025 06:29 PM (dcqhI)
201
> Cut off the ends of the too-long laces to your specs.
> Apply super glue to cut ends and let dry.
It also helps to use a Bic and singe the frayed ends. Then, voy-VOY-la! Perfect.
Posted by: DrSandman at December 14, 2025 06:32 PM (iYQr2)
202
They're long because the boots don't fit you retard. Your boot is way too wide for your foot. The toe eyelets are almost touching. Get a narrower boot.
Posted by: Miken at December 14, 2025 07:25 PM (lJkMy)
203
Late to the show but I have to admit that I tie my shoes every game to be precisely right. I try to not OCD but maybe here I am. But I've never had my shoelaces come undone during a match!
Posted by: NC Ref at December 14, 2025 08:04 PM (HIRLq)
204
It is clear that you should take the remaining shuttle from the Nostromo, take off, and nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure that your stupid sneaker laces are not too long.
Alternatives:
1. Cut 'em off and flame polish the ends with a lighter.
2. Wear boots like a real man.
Posted by: Ib1netmon at December 14, 2025 08:58 PM (vTTFR)
Take Back The Language!
Our language is amazingly dense and infinitely useful. We have a larger vocabulary than any other language, and enough tenses and special constructions to explain the most complex ideas, without being burdened with much in the way of gendered or confusing multi-word nouns.
English is a glory of the Western world, which of course is why it is a target for the Woke left. As Orwell famously said:
But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought.
So let's fight back.
Don't say "partner" when you can say "husband" or "wife." Don't say "parent" when you can say "father" or "mother." Don't say "child" when you can say "boy" or "girl," "son" or "daughter." Re-sex neutered language. Be salt and light.
-- Tim Bayly
Excellent points, and a fine place to start. And I would extend it to singular and plural! There is nothing wrong with using "he" to describe an unknown. Using "they" is astoundingly confusing. "They drove the car into the bridge abutment?" How many people were driving the car? What's wrong with the general "he," which can be corrected when the sex of the subject is known. But using "he" risks misgendering, and our woke masters can't have that!
They corrupt us with this diminution of our wonderful language, and it is a simple thing to push back.
And don't get me started on "Happy Holidays!" I am happily Jewish, and I see no need for a Christian country to bowdlerize a traditional and fine greeting to be more sensitive to me. It's Christmas for the vast majority of the country...there is nothing wrong and everything wonderful about saying "Merry Christmas!"
MERRY CHRISTMAS!
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 14, 2025 12:06 PM (NwnyJ)
8Fleece Navi-blab
Posted by: weft cut loop at December 14, 2025
***
To the same tune: "Po-lice stopped my car. . . ."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 12:07 PM (wzUl9)
9 HM and I refer to someone gay's partner as their "squeeze".
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2025 12:07 PM (tgvbd)
10
Absolutely fantastic CBD. Agree on all counts… my wife and I laughed yesterday because she bought Christmas cards that say “happy holidays” and I was poking fun at her for that. I told her she’ll have to manually write the following inside each one: Merry Christmas, you filthy animal!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 14, 2025 12:07 PM (WnEm5)
11
"The Left uses language to control the narrative"
And speaking traditional American English .. they call that another trait of "White Supremacy". Just shows what zealous maniacs they are.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 14, 2025 12:07 PM (vbXSk)
12
There is no such thing as "trans". I don't and won't use it.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 12:08 PM (sDNVV)
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 14, 2025 12:09 PM (0aYVJ)
14 I actually (!) sent out cards this year and it was "Merry Christmas" in all of them.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2025 12:10 PM (tgvbd)
15A truly Confucian ideal - the Rectification of Language.
Posted by: Tom Servo
Sounds proctological.
Posted by: weft cut loop at December 14, 2025 12:10 PM (mlg/3)
16
The [Brown University shooter] man had a unique characteristic on his firearm and that firearm was found when he was taken into custody.
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?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 12:10 PM (L/fGl)
17Don't say "partner" when you can say "husband" or "wife." Don't say "parent" when you can say "father" or "mother." Don't say "child" when you can say "boy" or "girl," "son" or "daughter." Re-sex neutered language. Be salt and light.
Also, stop calling someone a "kid" when they are over 18 years old. Get back to calling people "young man" or "young woman/lady".
This is ridiculous especially in sports commentating, both college and pros. Ridiculous to hear people saying "that kid is amazing" when talking about someone 22-25 years old.
Equally ridiculous when leftists call 19-20 year-olds in the military "kids" (while at the same time saying that actual kids and tweens can make decisions about abortions and castrating themselves).
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 12:11 PM (P5BPp)
18
> "The Left uses language to control the narrative"
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While this is true, the left has managed to make certain words, such as "racist" devoid of any real meaning by its overuse. This is becoming more apparent to the unwashed masses everyday.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 14, 2025 12:11 PM (NwnyJ)
Posted by: RI Red at December 14, 2025 12:11 PM (5EblX)
20
The [Brown University shooter] man had a unique characteristic on his firearm and that firearm was found when he was taken into custody.
-
?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 12:10 PM (L/fGl)
A thing that goes up?? OH, NO!!
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 14, 2025 12:11 PM (5xuJ/)
21 I once got called out for saying "Orientals" instead of "Asians". Basically, piss on that noise.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2025 12:12 PM (tgvbd)
22
Yeah when I hear partner I want to throw something.
Did that start to accommodate gay “relationships”?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 14, 2025 12:13 PM (udlma)
23
I also avoid using the sibling. I have brothers and sisters. Far as I know, none of them sible.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 14, 2025 12:13 PM (0aYVJ)
24
The [Brown University shooter] man had a unique characteristic on his firearm and that firearm was found when he was taken into custody.
-
?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 12:10 PM
Betting it was a “Glock Switch”.
Illegal, as it converts a pistol to automatic fire. Would go with the two 30-round magazines being reported. Likely Glock 32-rounders.
Posted by: RI Red at December 14, 2025 12:14 PM (5EblX)
25
Also, stop calling someone a "kid" when they are over 18 years old. Get back to calling people "young man" or "young woman/lady".
This is ridiculous especially in sports commentating, both college and pros. Ridiculous to hear people saying "that kid is amazing" when talking about someone 22-25 years old.
—-
Doesn’t help matters when a 26 year old is considered a “child” for the purposes of health insurance. Thanks Obamacare.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 14, 2025 12:14 PM (udlma)
26
I'll go bit further on reclaiming the English language, and it might seem a contradiction: Eliminate gendered job titles. If a woman rises to a particular job title, she earned that particular title. So, she is the chairman, the assemblyman, the helmsman, etc...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 14, 2025 12:15 PM (nbLIj)
27 "Partner" is stupid. Use accurate terms. Like "catamite".
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2025 12:15 PM (tgvbd)
28
It was always a leftist ideal to change thoughts by changing language, and it went way overboard once the tranny movement got going.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 12:16 PM (k5cxK)
29
Absolutely. Try reading paragraphs in which a person is designated “they”. The disconnect does more than jar.
Posted by: RebeccaH at December 14, 2025 12:16 PM (VFung)
30
Amy Swearer
@AmySwearer
Oh. The shooting occurred in the classroom of Professor Rachel Friedberg...who is Jewish, part of the Program in Judaic Studies, and whose research focuses on the intersection of economics and Jewish Studies?
That seems like it might be incredibly relevant.
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Probably just a coincidence.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 12:16 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 14, 2025 12:17 PM (nIW6f)
34 @AmySwearer
Oh. The shooting occurred in the classroom of Professor Rachel Friedberg...who is Jewish, part of the Program in Judaic Studies, and whose research focuses on the intersection of economics and Jewish Studies?
That seems like it might be incredibly relevant.
_________
Let me amend what I said in the last thread. This story will be forgotten tomorrow.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2025 12:18 PM (tgvbd)
35Oh. The shooting occurred in the classroom of Professor Rachel Friedberg...who is Jewish, part of the Program in Judaic Studies, and whose research focuses on the intersection of economics and Jewish Studies?
That seems like it might be incredibly relevant.
The shooter also "shouted something" as he opened fire.
Can't imagine what it was.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 14, 2025 12:18 PM (xTIDn)
36
There is no such thing as transgender.
The word you're looking for is transexual.
Gender refers to possessive pronouns: his, hers or its.
Sex is either male or female.
Just like we all learned in fourth grade.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 14, 2025 12:19 PM (2Ez/1)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 12:19 PM (kpS4V)
40
Tried looking up information on Brown U shooter but it's a useless search due to Marxists Propaganda Ministry who will hide anything they can.
What class or group was target?
Name of shooter?
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 12:19 PM (Ia/+0)
41
How about no “Gay” or “Lesbian”?
Use the medical scientific term, “Homosexual”.
As for the remaining LGBTQTrans, etc., “Bat Shit Crazy”.
Posted by: RI Red at December 14, 2025 12:19 PM (5EblX)
42
I had a professor in grad school who always - without exception - referred to his wife as his spouse, as if the word "wife" somehow defined her in a subservient way.
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 12:20 PM (2L+MU)
43
I was a bit surprised, happily so, when our boss ended a Teams meeting with "Mery Christmas" and the slide showing on the screen was a Christmas card featuring a cross and the Nativity.
Wonder how that will fly with the new large company that just acquired us.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 14, 2025 12:20 PM (0aYVJ)
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Don't get me started on Happy Hanukkah. Everyone knows it's a minor nothing and the whole oil story is very sus. Somehow the Jewish kids wrangled eight days of presents out of it. Crafty, those people.
Posted by: Bah To All Holidays! at December 14, 2025 12:20 PM (oftw2)
45
16 The [Brown University shooter] man had a unique characteristic on his firearm and that firearm was found when he was taken into custody.
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Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 12:10 PM (L/fGl)
'Hey, fascist! Catch ↑ → ↓↓↓'
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 14, 2025 12:20 PM (gbOdA)
46
We may never know the motive for the Australian shooting.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 14, 2025 12:20 PM (udlma)
47Tried looking up information on Brown U shooter but it's a useless search due to Marxists Propaganda Ministry who will hide anything they can.
What class or group was target?
Name of shooter?
There are apparently more than 800 cameras on the Brown campus.
Weird that none of them got a clear picture of the shooter.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 14, 2025 12:21 PM (xTIDn)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 14, 2025 12:21 PM (nIW6f)
49
He had no further intercourse with Spirits, but lived upon the Total Abstinence Principle, ever afterwards; and it was always said of him, that he knew how to keep Christmas well, if any man alive possessed the knowledge. May that be truly said of us, and all of us! And so, as Tiny Tim observed, God bless Us, Every One!
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 14, 2025 12:21 PM (gbOdA)
50
Tried looking up information on Brown U shooter but it's a useless search due to Marxists Propaganda Ministry who will hide anything they can.
What class or group was target?
Name of shooter?
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 12:19 PM (Ia/+0)
You know the rule. If the shooter is not IDed within 10 minutes it’s a non-white male.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 14, 2025 12:22 PM (udlma)
Posted by: no one at December 14, 2025 12:23 PM (W7XSX)
5527 "Partner" is stupid. Use accurate terms. Like "catamite".
Or paramour or courtesan or mistress.
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 12:23 PM (2L+MU)
56
Byron York
@ByronYork
He entered the US illegally 7 times. Was 'convicted of raping and sodomizing a woman who has cerebral palsy.' Federal judge praises him, spares him more prison time. Prosecutors: 'The court spun his repeated illegal entries in his favor, commending his family devotion.'
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I guess the disabled need love too.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 12:24 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: no one at December 14, 2025 12:25 PM (W7XSX)
61We may never know the motive for the Australian shooting.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
Oh. The shooting occurred in the classroom of Professor Rachel Friedberg...who is Jewish, part of the Program in Judaic Studies, and whose research focuses on the intersection of economics and Jewish Studies?
That seems like it might be incredibly relevant.
https://is.gd/0hdpTM
Posted by: Archimedes at December 14, 2025 12:25 PM (Riz8t)
62
Nothing is ever federally funded.
Nothing is ever government funded.
It's all TAXPAYER funded.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 14, 2025 12:25 PM (2Ez/1)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 14, 2025 12:25 PM (nIW6f)
64
The quote in my #61 is for the shooter at Brown.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 14, 2025 12:25 PM (Riz8t)
65
My old boss had a "partner." They were lesbians.
Posted by: no one at December 14, 2025 12:26 PM (W7XSX)
66
One sight saw had
Here is the Brown U shooter
Picture was from.back and guy all dressed in dark clothing and head covered.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 12:26 PM (Ia/+0)
67
I love animals, and my wife and I have owned three dogs over the course of our 47 years together. But I absolutely hate the expression "fur babies". Also, you are not your dog's father, nor your cat's mother.
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 12:26 PM (2L+MU)
68
You're not living together.
You're shacking up.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 14, 2025 12:26 PM (2Ez/1)
69
Been saying this for years. Thank you, thank you, thank you for saying it louder!
Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 14, 2025 12:27 PM (HCKPr)
70
There were apparently four Aussie cops on scene who did nothing as the terrorists shot people for twenty minutes.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 14, 2025 12:23 PM (xTIDn)
Always back the blue amirite?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 14, 2025 12:27 PM (udlma)
Thousands gather in downtown Portland for beloved holiday tree tradition
"Holiday tree"
I was unaware Portland has such a large and vibrant Druid community.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 14, 2025 12:28 PM (Riz8t)
74
I struggle with "partner." My son has nearly grown sons. That marriage broke up years ago, and he's with a woman he clearly wants to spend the rest of his life with, but she has no children, and I think they've decided, wisely, they're better off postponing anything formal. So what is she? I've tried "inamorata" but it sounds silly.
Posted by: Wenda at December 14, 2025 12:28 PM (A65Zh)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 14, 2025 12:28 PM (nIW6f)
76 Fleece Navi-blab
Posted by: weft cut loop
***
To the same tune: "Po-lice stopped my car. . . ."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
"Re-lease my peanuts..."
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 14, 2025 12:28 PM (QVmho)
77
I love animals, and my wife and I have owned three dogs over the course of our 47 years together. But I absolutely hate the expression "fur babies". Also, you are not your dog's father, nor your cat's mother.
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 12:26 PM (2L+MU)
Agree. Also, if I don't know the sex of a critter I will use the pronoun "it." it's correct and perfectly cromulent.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 14, 2025 12:29 PM (0aYVJ)
78
The police force has always been a haven of lazy shits that never want to put themselves in the line of fire.
Posted by: no one at December 14, 2025 12:29 PM (W7XSX)
79
There was also an acid attack in Savannah on Wednesday. A poor young woman's face has been burned nearly off. I only know of one, "culture", that attacks with acid.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 14, 2025 12:29 PM (3uBP9)
80
And if you don't want to do any adulting you can stop turning nouns into verbs!
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 14, 2025 12:29 PM (2Ez/1)
81There is no such thing as transgender.
The word you're looking for is transexual.
Gender refers to possessive pronouns: his, hers or its.
Sex is either male or female.
Just like we all learned in fourth grade.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 14, 2025 12:19 PM
I would argue "transsexual" is also made up. As no one can be "across" or "beyond" sexes.
All these people who claim to be "transgender" are simply transvestites. They are dressing up like the opposite sex.
Granted, some of them are going beyond that by getting castrated and deforming their bodies. In that case, I think we say that those people have mental disorders.
So mentally disordered transvestites.
The word transvestite originates from German Transvestit, coined in 1910 by German sexologist Magnus Hirschfeld in his book Die Transvestiten (The Transvestites). It entered English around 1922.
Etymological Breakdown
It derives from Latin roots: trans- meaning "across" or "beyond" + vestire meaning "to dress" or "to clothe" (from Proto-Indo-European wes- "to clothe," related to English words like vest and wear).
Literally, it means "cross-dresser."
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 12:29 PM (P5BPp)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 14, 2025 12:30 PM (nIW6f)
87
Let me amend what I said in the last thread. This story will be forgotten tomorrow.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2025 12:18 PM (tgvbd)
What story?
Posted by: Today at December 14, 2025 12:31 PM (uQesX)
88There was also an acid attack in Savannah on Wednesday. A poor young woman's face has been burned nearly off. I only know of one, "culture", that attacks with acid.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 14, 2025 12:29 PM
Acid attacks are the norm in Muslim countries and in Europe. And now apparently becoming the norm in the USA.
National Conservative @NatCon2022
Savage, unprovoked #hatecrime acid attack at Forsyth Park in Savannah, GA.
Police say Ashley Wasielewski was left with severe, life-altering injuries after an unknown Black male snuck up behind her and dumped acid on her head.
X images: https://bit.ly/3MtNAl4
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 12:31 PM (P5BPp)
89
If Australian police were not armed but if they were.
The video I watched at Legalinsurrection.com the Jihadists were getting some return fire It seemed towards the end from two directions
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 12:31 PM (Ia/+0)
9084 The Australian shooter was subdued by a bystander. Jesus, how shitty are the cops down under?
86 An unarmed bystander.
With enormous nads.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 14, 2025 12:31 PM (Riz8t)
93 Also, you are not your dog's father, nor your cat's mother.
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 12:26 PM (2L+MU)
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Undoubtedly true, yet to them we're Mama, because we do for them all the things that their mother would do. In essence, we keep them in a kind of arrested puppydom.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2025 12:32 PM (tgvbd)
94
"Literally, it means "cross-dresser."
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 12:29 PM"
Thanks for that.
Corporal Max Klinger and I applaud you.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 14, 2025 12:32 PM (2Ez/1)
95
My father in law, who was a teetotaling Baptist deacon , always referred to his wife as “his first wife” which was quite amusing.
They ended up being married for 67 years.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 12:33 PM (k5cxK)
96
I dislike the idea of neurolinguistic programming. Language and thought influence each other, and the better tools you have to work with means finer work, both in machining and in language, but the idea that by removing sections of language to prevent bad-think is as wise and effective a plan as curing psychiatric problems via lobotomies.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 12:33 PM (rbvCR)
97 The Australian shooter was subdued by a bystander. Jesus, how shitty are the cops down under?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 14, 2025 12:30 PM (udlma)
_________
Likely they were off arresting someone for a social media post.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2025 12:33 PM (tgvbd)
98
Too bad the one holding the camera (Bondi Beach) didn't have a rifle. Don't know the range, but sure looked like a good position from which to take those guys out.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 14, 2025 12:33 PM (HCKPr)
In the US in many places, this horrific incident would have been over in seconds, as some citizen carrying would have put down the creatures quickly, or at least forced them to move and take cover.
But "gun control" has solved all problems in sad, sad Australia. So we were told.
Another thing: the clear prolonged video of the one animal shows a rifle I don't recognize, appears to be some kind of bolt action (with a red dot). He cycles it each time he shoots, though the movement of the action looks weird to me.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 14, 2025 12:39 PM (U/Byj)
116
I was teaching some Chinese students as the woke bullsh*t was raging. They would laugh out loud at the idiots. The idiots would be offended, then confused, and then, some anyway, were embarrassed.
Fun to watch.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 14, 2025 12:39 PM (2WIwB)
117
Savannah's mayor is a NYC globalist. Also Savannah government, from mayor on down to the entire public school board is run by black fraternity, sorority members. Nothing is done unless it directly benefits the members of that specific group.
Crime is as bad as it ever has been. Murder is through the roof with poor black folk being the primary recipient of the killing. While the city government works to shovel more $$$ into their own pockets.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 14, 2025 12:40 PM (3uBP9)
118
Don't use "husband" and "wife" when the "marriage partners" are same-sex. I suggest "co-fag" and "co-dyke" as alternates. And when dealing with trannies, always use the pronouns appropriate to their sex at birth, and place scare quotes around their "transname".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 12:40 PM (npFr7)
Posted by: DaveA at December 14, 2025 12:41 PM (FhXTo)
122
>>> banana dream I saw that acid attack article, poor woman will be horribly scarred for life.
I wonder how many times liberal judges let this animal walk free after earlier crimes.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 14, 2025 12:35 PM (Riz8t)
Last I read the person is still at large. Savannah is more dangerous than ATL. Do you have any idea how bad that is?
Posted by: banana Dream at December 14, 2025 12:41 PM (3uBP9)
123
I should have made clear that I am a bit in awe of my son's inamorata. She's a college professor both here and in Europe, sponsors two cat colonies there--takes them meds, fund raises. Has an impressive singing voice that can go from pure to grainy jazz. I'm not looking for a slur.
Posted by: Wenda at December 14, 2025 12:42 PM (A65Zh)
There was a mass shooting at an Oregon community college ten years ago - six minutes after 911 was called, the first two cops arrived at the school, immediately charged the shooter and wounded him, after which he killed himself.
You know, that's what cops are supposed to do.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 14, 2025 12:42 PM (xTIDn)
125
CBD: POSSLQ? Sorry? Person Of Special something? Help!
Posted by: Wenda at December 14, 2025 12:36 PM (A65Zh)
126
Person of the Opposite Sex Sharing Living Quarters - POSSLQ
We hates acronyms, doesn't we, Precious...
Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 14, 2025 12:42 PM (HCKPr)
127
The Australian shooter was subdued by a bystander. Jesus, how shitty are the cops down under?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 14, 2025 12:30 PM (udlma)
Shitty. They were probably afraid to act knowing the courts are against it, the muzzies will find them and their families later for some rape time and they were probably drunk and/or high too.
Posted by: A Clockwork Orange 2: Aussie Boogaloo at December 14, 2025 12:44 PM (R/m4+)
128
Non-political distortion/degradation of language, but the most striking example I can think of.
Use of "way" instead of "far" or "much".
Most of my life, "way" was how a 12-yr old would modify something. "Hey, wow, that homerun was way longer than the one that Smith hit yesterday". "Dad, gas is way more expensive here than that last place we stopped".
Adult versions would be "much longer" and "much more expensive". Still jarring every time I see it - which is dozens of times a day.
Today it's become universal. Seems like overnight. With digitization one could probably compare this childish use of "way" with its use 10, 20, 30 years ago. Positive it would show a curve resembling that of college tuition or health "insurance" costs.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 14, 2025 12:44 PM (U/Byj)
129
Thank you re: POSSLQ. It was spelled out in comment 32 and I was too stupid to make the connection. Thanks.
Posted by: Wenda at December 14, 2025 12:45 PM (A65Zh)
130
I'm not looking for a slur.
Posted by: Wenda at December 14, 2025 12:42 PM (A65Zh)
Use inamorata. It's classical. Or significant other, certainly not plus one.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 14, 2025 12:45 PM (uQesX)
131
“Justice System Involved Individual” just rolls off the tongue so much better than “Convicted Felon”, don’t it?
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 12:45 PM (rum8d)
Lots of libs are very upset that David Ellison might take over CNN, aka the Communist Nonsense Network. Megan McCardle commented:
The CNN angle is getting so much play because media folks and political hobbyists who read a lot of news cannot imagine how little their hobby matters to the rest of the world. Also, like I said, they are old and to them 1995 is like yesterday. They can't quite believe it's over https://is.gd/nKXYDh
I think that puts it perfectly.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 14, 2025 12:46 PM (Riz8t)
Most of my life, "way" was how a 12-yr old would modify something. "Hey, wow, that homerun was way longer than the one that Smith hit yesterday". "Dad, gas is way more expensive here than that last place we stopped".
Adult versions would be "much longer" and "much more expensive". Still jarring every time I see it - which is dozens of times a day."
Posted by: rhomboid at December 14, 2025 12:44 PM
Similarly the phrase "for free" which sounds like the vernacular of a six year old.
What happened to the phrase "free of charge?"
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 14, 2025 12:48 PM (2Ez/1)
Megan McArdle? The same Megan McArdle who said just before the 2016 election that Trump was headed for a defeat so cataclysmic that the GOP would become extinct? That Megan McArdle?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2025 12:48 PM (tgvbd)
140There were apparently four Aussie cops on scene who did nothing as the terrorists shot people for twenty minutes.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 14, 2025 12:23 PM
just following procedure
can't do anything until the command post is set up & the hierarchy of authority is established
Abbreviated decision tree:
A) Do you see a bad guy shooting innocent people? If yes, then go to B)
B) Do you have a weapon? If yes, then go to C)
C) Shoot him.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 14, 2025 12:49 PM (Riz8t)
They’re not telling you the identity of the Brown sh00ter because they want to wipe all his social media first.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 14, 2025 12:49 PM (xTIDn)
142
Well said, CBD. Thanks for the reminder that WORDS MEAN THINGS …
Posted by: Dr_No at December 14, 2025 12:50 PM (ayRl+)
143
BuddyPC, thanks for the reminder. "Liberal" is arguably the most distorted/inverted word in widespread use today.
There is nothing remotely "liberal" about the racist-totalitarian mindset afflicting America. The ideas/people thus labeled range from soft authoritarian to hardcore totalitarian. It's absurd.
And it's not academic. It reflects the ignorance and inability to think that forms the basis for most people's "politics".
Posted by: rhomboid at December 14, 2025 12:50 PM (U/Byj)
Megan McArdle? The same Megan McArdle who said just before the 2016 election that Trump was headed for a defeat so cataclysmic that the GOP would become extinct? That Megan McArdle?
The very same. When she's right, she's right.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 14, 2025 12:50 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 14, 2025 12:50 PM (nIW6f)
146
I’ll try to use clear language: 44 year old Phillip Rivers who will start at QB for the Colts today after retiring 5 years ago… he’s crazy and brave and he’ll be lucky to avoid getting hurt as their opponent today is the Seahawks who have a ferocious defense….
I hope he wins
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 14, 2025 12:51 PM (xT8gx)
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 14, 2025 12:48 PM
"Gratis"?
WTF is"gratis"?
Posted by: Al Swearengen at December 14, 2025 12:51 PM (tljrc)
148They’re not telling you the identity of the Brown sh00ter because they want to wipe all his social media first.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
I'd like to say that's a paranoid conspiracy theory, but it's all too plausible.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 14, 2025 12:51 PM (Riz8t)
149Megan McArdle? The same Megan McArdle who said just before the 2016 election that Trump was headed for a defeat so cataclysmic that the GOP would become extinct? That Megan McArdle?
The one who also said just before the 2016 election that Trump couldn't be trusted with nuclear weapons.
Just another one of the never-Trumpers who used to be influential, and are no longer.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 14, 2025 12:51 PM (xTIDn)
Most of my life, "way" was how a 12-yr old would modify something. "Hey, wow, that homerun was way longer than the one that Smith hit yesterday". "Dad, gas is way more expensive here than that last place we stopped".
Adult versions would be "much longer" and "much more expensive". Still jarring every time I see it - which is dozens of times a day."
Posted by: rhomboid at December 14, 2025 12:44 PM
"Totally" is the superior means to express this sentiment, like totally.
Posted by: banana GenX, 80s Dream - fully licensed to use "totally" at December 14, 2025 12:52 PM (3uBP9)
Posted by: Samuel Whittemore at December 14, 2025 12:53 PM (7Q0e+)
157Just another one of the never-Trumpers who used to be influential, and are no longer.
Which is, ironically, her point about CNN.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 14, 2025 12:53 PM (Riz8t)
158BuddyPC, thanks for the reminder. "Liberal" is arguably the most distorted/inverted word in widespread use today.
"Far right".
"Far right" in Europe simply means that you want to limit mass immigration.
That's it.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 14, 2025 12:53 PM (xTIDn)
159
Well yer tarded and ya talk like a fag so scro like it ain't nothin my sister is tarded and she flys a plane.
Posted by: Reforger at December 14, 2025 12:54 PM (VF6cf)
160
Dumbest distorted/meaningless term, of long standing: "activist judges."
Ridiculous. Describes/explains nothing. Might as well call them "carbon-based" or "non-vegetable" or "non-jump qualified".
Lawlessness and disregard even of their own institutions procedures and rules are not "activism". They're lawlessness and malfeasance and vandalism. Idiotic term from the start but now embedded part of the lazy lexicon of the semi-informed and expert alike.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 14, 2025 12:55 PM (U/Byj)
Posted by: Archimedes at December 14, 2025 12:55 PM (Riz8t)
163
What language term bugs me the most is that Left- Right definition. Europeans are the worst at it from the Soviets Right term are Nazis. But here as well one has to look where the person using the definition is coming from, Antifa being the Soviets best friends.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 12:56 PM (Ia/+0)
164
The Left uses language to control the narrative
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I think it’s more profound than that. If the goal by some is to demoralize and pervert human behavior (nod your head “yes” then it follows words must first be perverted. Orwell thought the idea generally was to prevent people from even thinking “bad” (good) thoughts, because the words to describe such concepts no longer even existed. You can see these wordsmiths at work every single day if you know what to look for, it is insidious.
A bunch of queers running around wearing dresses, bull dyke police chiefs, mayorettes, screeching from the pulpit, et al, lunatics in high government circles is not …. a prescription for confidence going forward. Always and ever an indication of a society in a death spiral.
Historians will search in vain for a culture that has ever come back from that, is my understanding. It’s one of the classic hallmarks shit will get very, very bad.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 12:56 PM (rum8d)
165
I’ll try to use clear language: 44 year old Phillip Rivers who will start at QB for the Colts today after retiring 5 years ago… he’s crazy and brave and he’ll be lucky to avoid getting hurt as their opponent today is the Seahawks who have a ferocious defense….
Phillip couldn't carry our jockstraps.
Posted by: Zombie Earl Morrall and George Blanda at December 14, 2025 12:56 PM (R/m4+)
166
I hate the term "zero dollars" brought to us by the piranha "Healthcare" industry.
Posted by: Zero is Jap Fighter at December 14, 2025 12:58 PM (oftw2)
167
Fantastic Achimedes, we both posted a comment connected at same time
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 12:58 PM (Ia/+0)
168
The neighborhood dog walking moms gather routinely for a gabfest in the cul de sac. They're all old enough to have teenage offspring. And yet if you were to take the word "like" out of their vocabulary and they couldn't articulate a single sentence.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 14, 2025 12:58 PM (2Ez/1)
169
I should have made clear that I am a bit in awe of my son's inamorata. She's a college professor both here and in Europe, sponsors two cat colonies there--takes them meds, fund raises. Has an impressive singing voice that can go from pure to grainy jazz. I'm not looking for a slur.
Posted by: Wenda at December 14, 2025 12:42 PM (A65Zh)
"Common-law spouse" is not a slur; it is a legal description of living status.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 12:58 PM (npFr7)
170
Rivers is suiting up again? Wow. He's tough, but come on.
Meanwhile, let's not forget the grandaddy of them all in current descent of language: "narrative". "The narrative".
Unlike with phrases like "beg the question", which refers to a real and important logical fallacy but has been reduced to the equivalent of "raise the question" by a contemporary society mostly unfamiliar with logic or critical thinking, the incredible substitution of "narrative" for many superior/more precise terms is just laziness.
I pointed this (to me) striking pattern a few years ago to a friend who gets published/interviewed a fair amount - at first he wasn't sure he knew what I was talking about. A few months later, sensitized to it, he laughed and agreed.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 14, 2025 01:02 PM (U/Byj)
171
“Registration” always kind of stuck in my craw.
How many times is that really necessary? Once! Of course. “Hey! That’s a nice Canoe you have there. You should give us fifty bucks. Here’s a cool sticker you can affix to the bow.”
So, it’s now registered. Yay! But wait! You gotta re-register every fucking year. Because reasons. I mean, they need revenue. But it’s silly to call it “registration”.
Iowa used to have personal property tax. A long time ago. Some state clown would walk through your house inspecting your furniture and things, and decide how large you were living, and demand a piece of the action, I guess.
Modern tech could make this feasible again, I’m sure.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 01:03 PM (rum8d)
172
People often distort the language because they are uncomfortable with the reality it describes.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 14, 2025 01:03 PM (HCKPr)
173“Registration” always kind of stuck in my craw.
How many times is that really necessary? Once! Of course. “Hey! That’s a nice Canoe you have there. You should give us fifty bucks. Here’s a cool sticker you can affix to the bow.”
So, it’s now registered. Yay! But wait! You gotta re-register every fucking year. Because reasons. I mean, they need revenue. But it’s silly to call it “registration”.
"Registration" sounds better than "Extortion".
Posted by: Archimedes at December 14, 2025 01:06 PM (Riz8t)
174
172 People often distort the language because they are uncomfortable with the reality it describes.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 14, 2025 01:03 PM
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I've been sitting right here the whole time.
Posted by: Euphemisms at December 14, 2025 01:06 PM (2Ez/1)
175
I sometimes use gay to mean in a great mood. That is a fun one.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 14, 2025 01:06 PM (R86kT)
176
I thought “it begs the question” is a recognition the argument being made is totally farcical on its face in the first place, so the distinction trying to be made is moot or meaningless.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 01:06 PM (rum8d)
177
Call them out for lies. Say "that's a lie" or "you are a liar". They are allowed to make stuff up and we shouldn't pretend that they don't know it is a
Iie.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 14, 2025 01:07 PM (+mUZM)
178
Registration is a right they took away from you and now lease back to you.
Posted by: Reforger at December 14, 2025 01:07 PM (VF6cf)
179
I take pride in being registered and certified down at the Institute.
Posted by: Fugitive From The Board of Mental Health at December 14, 2025 01:08 PM (oftw2)
180
So during this most wonderful time of year are we allowed to have
"gay happy meetings when friends come to call?"
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 14, 2025 01:09 PM (2Ez/1)
181
>>> I sometimes use gay to mean in a great mood. That is a fun one.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 14, 2025 01:06 PM (R86kT)
Me too, preceded by pretty and witty.
Posted by: banana Dream - would also except: stunning and entrancing at December 14, 2025 01:09 PM (3uBP9)
182
Nope. "Begs the question" is a description of the logical fallacy of petitio principii, or assuming that which is to be demonstrated.
Basically assuming the proposition that is to be proven or validated in the discussion, instead of actually proving or validating it.
A feature of 90% of arguments if you look at them with any focus.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 14, 2025 01:09 PM (U/Byj)
183
175 I sometimes use gay to mean in a great mood. That is a fun one.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 14, 2025 01:06 PM (R86kT)
I certainly had a yabba-dabba-doo gay old time!
Posted by: Fred Flinstone at December 14, 2025 01:10 PM (ynpvh)
What pronoun do we use for when AI steers a car into a bridge abutment?
With the tight integration of government within the control systems of so many connected systems, would "they" be appropriate when a NGO's wet operations targets an assassination via a "driver-less automobile" ?
† I've come to the conclusion that in the West NGOs include terror organizations that have a tax-exempt status and access to laundered government funds.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 14, 2025 01:10 PM (a4flb)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 01:10 PM (L/fGl)
186 Call them out for lies. Say "that's a lie" or "you are a liar". They are allowed to make stuff up and we shouldn't pretend that they don't know it is a
Iie.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 14, 2025 01:07 PM (+mUZM)
___________
"You're a liar, Earl!"
https://youtu.be/FrhmUGRaOwY
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2025 01:10 PM (tgvbd)
How does one objectively tell who the real 'Nazis" are?
Maybe, just maybe, if we could divide the masses into a neat two or three groups calling them the X, Y, and maybe N (for neither of the above)....
When X finds itself in political power, running the government, are they using that power of the government to round up Y?
When out of political power are they using street violence and assassinations of Y?
If yes, that is exactly what real commies, fascistd, and nazis did, and still do.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 14, 2025 01:10 PM (/lPRQ)
188
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 14, 2025 01:09 PM (2Ez/1)
Yes! And you may don your gay apparel to enhance the Christmas spirit! I am rather gay right now. Off to do some Christmas shopping.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 14, 2025 01:11 PM (R86kT)
189
182 Nope. "Begs the question" is a description of the logical fallacy of petitio principii, or assuming that which is to be demonstrated.
Basically assuming the proposition that is to be proven or validated in the discussion, instead of actually proving or validating it.
A feature of 90% of arguments if you look at them with any focus.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 14, 2025 01:09 PM (U/Byj)
So the argument pulled itself up by its own bootstraps...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 14, 2025 01:11 PM (ynpvh)
190
Back in my day we used to have a gay old time.
It was right there in the song.
Posted by: Fred Flintstone at December 14, 2025 01:11 PM (2Ez/1)
How does one objectively tell who the real 'Nazis" are?
Maybe, just maybe, if we could divide the masses into a neat two or three groups calling them the X, Y, and maybe N (for neither of the above)....
When X finds itself in political power, running the government, are they using that power of the government to round up Y?
When out of political power are they using street violence and assassinations of Y?
If yes, that is exactly what real commies, fascistd, and nazis did, and still do.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 14, 2025 01:10 PM (/lPRQ)
Words have meaning, but actions speak louder...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 14, 2025 01:12 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 01:12 PM (Ia/+0)
194Basically assuming the proposition that is to be proven or validated in the discussion, instead of actually proving or validating it.
A feature of 90% of arguments if you look at them with any focus.
I would say that 100% of the Left's rhetoric falls into this category. I can't recall any time where an accusation was attached to any receipts, examples or even a feeble attempt at logic.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 14, 2025 01:12 PM (a4flb)
195
I despise 'cute' use of language. It's merchandise, not 'merch'. I have a younger brother, that doesn't make a 'bro'. And don't try to correct me if I use oriental instead of Asian. It always meant the same thing and wasn't derogatory. (I don't say 'yellow peril' unless I'm discussing a Fu Manchu novel.) Changes to English because of some BS anti-western slant is not to be followed. Since I don't have to placate a corporation or some academic snowflake, I am free to ignore such bilge. Sometimes loudly.
I am also annoyed by sloppy usage. Presently means soon. At present means now. I recall Watergate testimony where they kept saying subsequent as happening before, not after, an event.
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 01:12 PM (yTvNw)
196 I thought “it begs the question” is a recognition the argument being made is totally farcical on its face in the first place, so the distinction trying to be made is moot or meaningless.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 01:06 PM
irregardless, it's a mute point
they'll never tow the line
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 14, 2025 01:13 PM (tljrc)
197
I certainly had a yabba-dabba-doo gay old time!
Posted by: Fred Flinstone
That's why I fired you Flintstone! Too much gay old time, not enough nose to the grindstone in the quarry!
Posted by: Mr. Slate at December 14, 2025 01:13 PM (oftw2)
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 01:15 PM (6ydKt)
204
Dude in the white pants appear to be using a pump shot gun as it loads from the bottom like an 870.
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 14, 2025 01:15 PM (gbOdA)
205 I generally use "they" or "sibling" when online because I want to anonymize family and friends in general on the off-chance they might be recognized.
Otherwise, yeah, English is precise so use it precisely.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 14, 2025 01:15 PM (iJfKG)
206 And I'm still sitting here wondering if it should be 'puppydom' or 'puppyhood'?
Posted by: [/n]SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 01:14 PM (6ydKt)
__________
Yes, it should be "puppyhood". Thank you.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2025 01:15 PM (tgvbd)
207
Today I can without ignorance wish CBD a happy Hanukkah. Although I still can't spell it
Posted by: gKWVE at December 14, 2025 01:15 PM (ueBEv)
208
White pants dude also has shell pouch like when I skeet shoot.
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 14, 2025 01:16 PM (gbOdA)
209
196
I thought “it begs the question” is a recognition the argument being made is totally farcical on its face in the first place, so the distinction trying to be made is moot or meaningless.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 01:06 PM
irregardless, it's a mute point
they'll never tow the line
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 14, 2025 01:13 PM (tljrc)
Irregardless...that's a good one.
Regard -- real word
Regardless -- real word
Irregardless --not exactly real, would mean with regard based on prefix and suffix...
Hey, but I'm no grammar nazi, or gramma nazi like Nancy P.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 14, 2025 01:16 PM (ynpvh)
210
"Yellow Peril" can mean Commie Chinese, or Russians with jaundice.
Posted by: Staunch Foe at December 14, 2025 01:16 PM (oftw2)
211I am also annoyed by sloppy usage. Presently means soon. At present means now.
I would love for you to explain for us the South African usage of "Now", "Right Now", "Just Now" and "Now Now".
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 14, 2025 01:16 PM (a4flb)
212There were apparently four Aussie cops on scene who did nothing as the terrorists shot people for twenty minutes.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
Well, no. You can't interfere with a religious ceremony
Posted by: gKWVE at December 14, 2025 01:17 PM (ueBEv)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 01:13 PM (L/fGl)
Julius! Sieze Her!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 14, 2025 01:17 PM (ynpvh)
214
How about no “Gay” or “Lesbian”?
Use the medical scientific term, “Homosexual”.
As for the remaining LGBTQTrans, etc., “Bat Shit Crazy”.
Posted by: RI Red
+++
That's a good idea. We could just refer to them as the BSC community and cover all the democrats at once.
Posted by: Florida Peasant at December 14, 2025 01:17 PM (Lo97M)
215
I sure hope there is no backlash against muslims.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 14, 2025 01:18 PM (nIW6f)
216
I’m white, that does not mean I dislike people who aren’t white. Deal with it.
Posted by: Eromero at December 14, 2025 01:18 PM (fHsz8)
217
All black pants dude has shell belt and it look like a shotgun shell.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 01:20 PM (DwGFu)
222
Am I allowed to continue using "fun bags" when referring to boobs?
Posted by: Weasel at December 14, 2025 01:21 PM (vt7xw)
223 Some state clown would walk through your house inspecting your furniture and things, and decide how large you were living, and demand a piece of the action, I guess.
What a neutered culture we have become. We will actually pay someone a salary and life-time pension to periodically open the door and allow them to case our home for robbery.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 14, 2025 01:21 PM (a4flb)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 14, 2025 01:23 PM (ynpvh)
228
210 "Yellow Peril" can mean Commie Chinese, or Russians with jaundice.
Posted by: Staunch Foe at December 14, 2025 01:16 PM (oftw2)
Urinary tract infection...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 14, 2025 01:24 PM (ynpvh)
229
Big Homo also queered the meaning of queer. It was a perfectly cromulent word in the before times.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 14, 2025 01:24 PM (6p0Jv)
230
Today I can without ignorance wish CBD a happy Hanukkah. Although I still can't spell it
Posted by: gKWVE at December 14, 2025 01:15 PM (ueBEv)
Maybe this will help:
http://tiny.cc/6wew001
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 14, 2025 01:25 PM (nbLIj)
231
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 01:06 PM
irregardless, it's a mute point
they'll never tow the line
Posted by: AltonJackson
Crap like that spreads like wildflower.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2025 01:25 PM (cYBz/)
232
I like to innocently ask event organizers if “pre-registration” differs from “registration”. I mean …
A lot of people plug words and phrases in without really understanding them. Never use a word if you can’t define it, or spell it, properly.
People who write “Per Say” should be flogged, in particular.
“Planned ahead of time” seems a little bit silly, too.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 01:25 PM (DwGFu)
For all intensive purposes, yes!
Posted by: Common Tater
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It's as if Yogi Berra has entered the chat.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2025 01:26 PM (XeU6L)
236
Thx CBD.
My local area has been filled with nasty things lately. Just south of me three people were killed on the NYS Thruway in two separate accidents. Yesterday three people died in the county north of me in a murder suicide. And on Friday a local cop was driving off duty in the county south of me and a guy came after him in a road rage incident throwing a punch through the window then pulling a knife . The cop shot him twice. Still alive unfortunately.
Happy holidays
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 14, 2025 01:26 PM (D+mpw)
Posted by: M. Gaga at December 14, 2025 01:27 PM (KiBMU)
240
Big Homo also queered the meaning of queer. It was a perfectly cromulent word in the before times.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 14, 2025 01:24 PM (6p0Jv)
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It's a good solid New England word. Queeeeahh.
Lovecraft used it a lot. As in, there's queer doin's up in the hills. T'ain't natural!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 01:28 PM (kpS4V)
241
Once you've furled your gainly umbrella take a look at this classic. It's always fun.
https://tinyurl.com/yuryyy44
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 14, 2025 01:28 PM (2Ez/1)
242
Happy holidays
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 14, 2025 01:26 PM (D+mpw)
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 14, 2025 01:28 PM (nIW6f)
245
230 Today I can without ignorance wish CBD a happy Hanukkah. Although I still can't spell it
Posted by: gKWVE at December 14, 2025 01:15 PM (ueBEv)
Maybe this will help:
http://tiny.cc/6wew001
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 14, 2025 01:25 PM (nbLIj)
The CH in Channukah is pronounced like the ch in loch, as pronounced by a Scotsman...
Posted by: Marcel Marceau at December 14, 2025 01:29 PM (ynpvh)
The cartoon:
https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/1993/01/25
Also, testing the margins
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2025 01:29 PM (XeU6L)
247
People often distort the language because they are uncomfortable with the reality it describes.
Posted by: Don in SoCo
+++
Apparently it's ok to call a woman a plus sized model.
But if you call them a fat ass, they don't like it.
Posted by: Florida Peasant at December 14, 2025 01:30 PM (Lo97M)
248
Big Homo also queered the meaning of queer. It was a perfectly cromulent word in the before times.
——
Oh, it still has retained meaning. You’re just not allowed to use it, not as defined, “Weird” is a synonym.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 01:30 PM (kEIJE)
Posted by: JSpicy at December 14, 2025 01:32 PM (pZoON)
260
Interesting post at Twitchy. Seems the Brown shooting occurred in a classroom that is for Jewish studies. Might be nothing, but given what happened on the same day it is a thing that makes you go hmmm.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 14, 2025 01:33 PM (D+mpw)
261
This year we seem to have failed to even recognize the traditional War on Christmas.
What has he fallen out once great nation?
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 14, 2025 01:33 PM (1iTdO)
262
I like the way Jon Lovitz pronounced Hanukkah-- ChhhhhhhHAHnukkkkhahhhhh.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 01:33 PM (kpS4V)
263
254 Crap like that spreads like wildflower.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 14, 2025 01:25 PM (cYBz/)
She comes down from Yellow Marigold
through a bright, flat field she rides
on a peony she named
Posted by: Michael Martin at December 14, 2025 01:31 PM (3uBP9)
Hah!
Very good, sir.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 14, 2025 01:34 PM (ynpvh)
264
Gotta go exercise the snow blower. See y’all later.
Posted by: RI Red at December 14, 2025 01:34 PM (bnOop)
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 14, 2025 01:33 PM (1iTdO)
Speaking of linguistic homicide.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 01:34 PM (6ydKt)
266
Lovecraft used it a lot. As in, there's queer doin's up in the hills. T'ain't natural!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 01:28 PM (kpS4V)
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Tolkien was also no stranger to the word.
About 30 miles N of I-10, and it's cold. 52 F right now, must find sweater...
Posted by: man at December 14, 2025 01:37 PM (XuXeR)
271
"There are strange things done in the midnight sun
By the men who moil for gold;
The Arctic trails have their secret tales
That would make your blood run cold;
The Northern Lights have seen queer sights,
But the queerest they ever did see
Was that night on the marge of Lake Lebarge
I cremated Sam McGee." - Robt. Service
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2025 01:38 PM (XeU6L)
272
About 30 miles N of I-10, and it's cold. 52 F right now, must find sweater...
Posted by: man at December 14, 2025 01:37 PM (XuXeR)
53.2 74% hum
Posted by: CCR at December 14, 2025 01:40 PM (gbOdA)
Some of you said Ann Sheridan. One said Judy Garland. Rita Hayworth was another guess.
And this: And the scene is from “The man who came to dinner”, a semi-Christmas movie that should be playing this month.
Posted by: Tom Servo
https://is.gd/gk4Mgd
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 01:44 PM (kjnCv)
276
Drone view at Revolver News makes it look like #2 Gunman might have been hit in leg as he goes down an gets up a couple times before going down before getting up to surrender
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 01:45 PM (Ia/+0)
277
I’d like to see orthographic reform in the English language. For starters:
1. Use “f” instead of “ph”
2. Use “k” instead of “c” when pronounced that way
3. Use “j” instead of “g” where appropriate
Et cetera- do any of you have similar pet peeves?
Posted by: Insensitive Clod at December 14, 2025 01:46 PM (0I5n7)
278 As I told you, I've been watching the loop-stream of Father Knows Best on Youtube.
They use "gay" a lot, in it's true meaning.
Also, they call Bud's boy friends his "boyfriends."
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 01:46 PM (kjnCv)
279
The Brown person of interest is sure being hidden. Trans, Muslim or some other protected class.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 14, 2025 01:46 PM (D+mpw)
280
Take Back The Language!
______________________
Alrighty then.... Have a Gay (Happy) Christmas!!!! Hmmmm....that sounds rather queer (odd).
Posted by: Orson at December 14, 2025 01:47 PM (dIske)
281
She comes down from Yellow Marigold
through a bright, flat field she rides
on a peony she named
Posted by: Michael Martin at December 14, 2025 01:31 PM (3uBP9)
Wild Briar?
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 14, 2025 01:48 PM (nbLIj)
282
Sure. don't say leftists, instead say " ignorant fascist tw@t waffle ", or where appropriate "waffles". So, singular and plural. As far a sex, when talking about leftists " tw@t" is accurate term for all of them.
Posted by: Edward at December 14, 2025 01:48 PM (9gg3L)
X video: https://bit.ly/4iRLreQ
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 08:32 AM (P5BPp)
wow
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 08:53 AM (RuTUS)
Six minutes of which video from an elevated position that appears to be a prime location from which to take two shots to take out the murderers. Honestly, it could have been ended within two minutes or less.
Shame that they took away Australians' rights to armed self-defense.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 14, 2025 01:48 PM (dK+Kv)
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 01:48 PM (kjnCv)
285
Powerline- shooting was in classroom of Prof Rachel Freidberg and part of the program of Judaic Studies
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 01:49 PM (Ia/+0)
286
But the queerest they ever did see
Was that night on the marge of Lake Lebarge
I cremated Sam McGee." - Robt. Service
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2025 01:38 PM (XeU6L)
Love that poem. First one I ever read in school.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 14, 2025 01:49 PM (2WIwB)
287
I’d like to see orthographic reform in the English language. For starters:
1. Use “f” instead of “ph”
2. Use “k” instead of “c” when pronounced that way
3. Use “j” instead of “g” where appropriate
Et cetera- do any of you have similar pet peeves?
Posted by: Insensitive Clod
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I've always been a bit perplexed by the the pronunciation of 'phone' vs. 'one'
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2025 01:49 PM (XeU6L)
288
It's a good solid New England word. Queeeeahh.
Lovecraft used it a lot. As in, there's queer doin's up in the hills. T'ain't natural!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 01:28 PM (kpS4V)
Pretty true for Rhode Island these days.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 01:50 PM (uWKK8)
289
Scubbing the Shooters social media before his name is announced
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 01:50 PM (Ia/+0)
290
Love that poem. First one I ever read in school.
Posted by: Diogenes
----
There was a time when I could recite 'The Shooting of Dan McGrew'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2025 01:51 PM (XeU6L)
291
Speaking of linguistic homicide.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 01:34 PM (6ydKt)
The correct response would be: what does Christmas have to do with you?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 14, 2025 01:52 PM (uQesX)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 14, 2025 01:52 PM (h4uy9)
293
285 Powerline- shooting was in classroom of Prof Rachel Freidberg and part of the program of Judaic Studies
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 01:49 PM (Ia/+0)
____________________________
And, let us not forget. a "Gun Free" zone.
Posted by: Orson at December 14, 2025 01:52 PM (dIske)
294
There's no "correct" spelling of words from foreign languages that do not share a common/similar alphabet. In that case it's transliteration, in which the sounds/pronunciation of the original are reproduced, to the extent possible, in the transliterated form.
This applies to the Jewish festival of lights.
There are conventions, but not correct or incorrect.
Take the surname of the late Libyan dictator, for example. 10,000 years ago when SNL was funny and even intelligent at times, they had a great thing where they scrolled the dozens of transliterated versions of Brother Colonel's name on the screen behind the news reader during Weekend Update. Best illustration of the point I can think of.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 14, 2025 01:52 PM (U/Byj)
295
I am a person of color since white is a color.
At some point I'm sure some ass will tell me my 23 year old white SUV is Caucasian.
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 01:53 PM (yTvNw)
296
278
As I told you, I've been watching the loop-stream of Father Knows Best on Youtube.
They use "gay" a lot, in it's true meaning.
Also, they call Bud's boy friends his "boyfriends."
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts
There are several good FKB Christmas episodes. Also the 1977 reunion movie is Christmas centered. Wyatt and Young were in their late 60s, but everyone did a nice job in it. You should watch it. And, it's in color!
Posted by: Rodney-Young Productions at December 14, 2025 01:53 PM (oftw2)
297
The CH in Channukah is pronounced like the ch in loch, as pronounced by a Scotsman...
Posted by: Marcel Marceau
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A friend of mine, not incidentally named Cohen, told me the correct way to pronounce the H/CH sound was to imagine gargling. Bring it partway up your throat then let it fall back down there.
Posted by: buddhaha at December 14, 2025 01:54 PM (jiDhR)
298 There are several good FKB Christmas episodes. Also the 1977 reunion movie is Christmas centered. Wyatt and Young were in their late 60s, but everyone did a nice job in it. You should watch it. And, it's in color!
Posted by: Rodney-Young Productions
I'm familiar, and I agree.
btw, the Latin motto Rodney-Young used, "Ars Pro Multis," got me down a rabbit hole.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 01:55 PM (kjnCv)
299
Six minutes of which video from an elevated position that appears to be a prime location from which to take two shots to take out the murderers. Honestly, it could have been ended within two minutes or less.
Shame that they took away Australians' rights to armed self-defense.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 14, 2025 01:48 PM (dK+Kv)
OK. For the sake of argument, assume the Aussies had concealed-carry laws comparable to Florida or Texas, and the guy with the camera was packing a pistol. Not knowing the range, would be possible for him to take out the gunmen without putting bystanders beyond them at risk?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 01:55 PM (npFr7)
300
Insensitive Clod, of course the classic was the spelling of fish, phonetically: ghoti. Forgot, Oscar Wilde? Or the other guy.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 14, 2025 01:56 PM (U/Byj)
301
Oh no we are going to have to hear about the Muslim hero in Australia over and over again who disarmed one of the shooters. First question that came to me was why was he at a Hanukkah celebration? He was shot twice though so likely nothing nefarious.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 01:56 PM (KDPiq)
302
AOP, I'd say absolutely yes. Harassing fire could disrupt the terrorist's operation completely, whether you hit him or not. And from that angle missed shots don't look like they'd endanger anyone.
Haven't looked at all the videos, but there's more from the front/side, across the street looks like, with a terrorist on the bridge. At one point he ducks, as if sheltering from return fire of some kind. Dunno what to make of that at this point.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 14, 2025 01:58 PM (U/Byj)
"A source told me students heard the shooter scream “ALLAHU AKBAR” before he opened fire, but the PC culture of Brown has them afraid of being called “Islamophobic”.
Source tells me Police and @FBI agents on the ground have also been instructed by Democrat officials on the ground in Rhode Island to not say the words “Muslim” or “Islamic terror”"
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2025 01:59 PM (g47mK)
304
Posted by: rhomboid at December 14, 2025 01:58 PM (U/Byj)
One of the shooters is dead and other in critical condition last I read.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 01:59 PM (KDPiq)
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There's no "correct" spelling of words from foreign languages that do not share a common/similar alphabet.
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Which is why we had Hunt's "Catsup", and Heinz "Ketchup", although I think Hunt's has waved the white flag and gone to the K version.
I always supposed that the transliteration difference was that one heard the word in Cantonese, and the other in Mandarin.
Posted by: buddhaha at December 14, 2025 02:00 PM (jiDhR)
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303 we have a long way to go : from Laura Loomer:
"A source told me students heard the shooter scream “ALLAHU AKBAR” before he opened fire, but the PC culture of Brown has them afraid of being called “Islamophobic”.
Source tells me Police and @FBI agents on the ground have also been instructed by Democrat officials on the ground in Rhode Island to not say the words “Muslim” or “Islamic terror”"
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2025 01:59 PM (g47mK)
It's not a phobia if they're trying to kill you; it's a rational fear.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 14, 2025 02:00 PM (ynpvh)
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There was a time when I could recite 'The Shooting of Dan McGrew'.
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Is that the filthy parody?
Posted by: buddhaha at December 14, 2025 02:04 PM (jiDhR)
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AOP, I'd say absolutely yes. Harassing fire could disrupt the terrorist's operation completely, whether you hit him or not. And from that angle missed shots don't look like they'd endanger anyone.
Haven't looked at all the videos, but there's more from the front/side, across the street looks like, with a terrorist on the bridge. At one point he ducks, as if sheltering from return fire of some kind. Dunno what to make of that at this point.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 14, 2025 01:58 PM (U/Byj)
Alright. Did not view the videos, so had no idea of the distances and sightlines involved.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 02:04 PM (npFr7)
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Is that the filthy parody?
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No, literal. My English teacher of the day also insisted that we learn by rote the first paragraph (?) of the prologue to The Canterbury Tales
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 14, 2025 02:15 PM (XeU6L)
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Late, I guess, so I will offer one example: I saw some clip where some chick is pushing a particular cosmetic treatment or some such and she says “Ask your provider if this can work for you.”
Really? Of what?
That stupid word, AGAIN.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 14, 2025 02:15 PM (4786I)
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Exactly. And there's nothing inherently 'gay' about homosexuality.
Posted by: SOTMHK at December 14, 2025 02:21 PM (GnY+e)
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Notsothoreau at #201,
That's perfect! She shall be my son's beloved henceforward.
(I hope I said that correctly.)
Posted by: Wenda at December 14, 2025 02:34 PM (A65Zh)
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Not knowing the range, would be possible for him to take out the gunmen without putting bystanders beyond them at risk?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 01:55 PM (npFr7)
Range is less than about 150, based on perspective, unless phone cam has really good artifact free zoom. Assuming a pistol shot, it would be a difficult shot. I might risk that shot, given the distance and decent cover and/or exit possibilities.
Assuming rifle, which is not beyond the range of reason for semi-rural, it should be cake. And that is putting aside the second guessing of murderers attacking an armed populace, which does happen here.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 14, 2025 02:49 PM (dK+Kv)
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There's no "correct" spelling of words from foreign languages that do not share a common/similar alphabet. In that case it's transliteration, in which the sounds/pronunciation of the original are reproduced, to the extent possible, in the transliterated form.
This applies to the Jewish festival of lights.
There are conventions, but not correct or incorrect.
Take the surname of the late Libyan dictator, for example. 10,000 years ago when SNL was funny and even intelligent at times, they had a great thing where they scrolled the dozens of transliterated versions of Brother Colonel's name on the screen behind the news reader during Weekend Update. Best illustration of the point I can think of.
Posted by: rhomboid
When getting new tires I always go for the Korean brand just so I can loudly say "Gook".
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In her book "Heterophobia", Daphne Patai recalls the story of a female academic who frequently referred to her "partner", supposedly to suggest a lesbian relationship, but eventually she was outed. Turned out she was married to the same man for over twenty years and they had a couple of kids together.
Posted by: clams on the half shell and roller skates, roller skates at December 14, 2025 06:26 PM (kvDvI)
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Also, don't say "sex assigned at birth." It is not assigned at birth, it is observed at birth.
Posted by: M J at December 14, 2025 10:11 PM (nyzPD)
Sunday Morning Book Thread - 12-14-2025 ["Perfessor" Squirrel]
[Please keep current events in the thread below. This thread is a lighthearted respite from the world [CBD]]
Welcome to the prestigious, internationally acclaimed, stately, and illustrious Sunday Morning Book Thread! The place where all readers are welcome, regardless of whatever View image
guilty pleasure we feel like reading. Here is where we can discuss, argue, bicker, quibble, consider, debate, confabulate, converse, and jaw about our latest fancy in reading material. As always, pants are required, unless you are wearing these pants...(HT: Nacly Dog)
So relax, find yourself a warm kitty (or warm puppy--I won't judge) to curl up in your lap, hum some Christmas tunes, and dive into a new book. What are YOU reading this fine morning?
NOTE: CBD has posted a thread below covering the horrific shooting in Australia. Why do these things keep happening right before the Sunday Morning Book Thread? (10/7 was similar, but also much, much worse.)
VIDEO NOTE
A couple of weeks ago I brought you a video about James Madison't library. Thomas Jefferson was also an avid collector and reader of books. It seemed to be the fashion at the time for the upper-class gentlemen in the American Colonies. Jefferson's method of organizing books was pretty simple--by subject and by size. Some of the folios he had are beautiful, using paper I didn't expect to see at that time in history.
READING AS PERFORMANCE ART
Gina points out a few of the more unsettling trends that have been showing up in recent years thanks to social media:
Collecting multiple editions of the same book - Within reason, I don't think this is a bad thing. However, if you have a dozen or more versions of the SAME BOOK just because you want different cover art, I'm not so sure that's a good thing. Seems like a waste of money to me. I myself have two copies of Lord of the Rings, as well as a few extra copies of select books. I don't make a huge point of getting a book just because I want THAT particular copy, though when I do find a book I really want then I might be particular about the cover.
Reading products and "hacks" - Who needs several drawers of annotation supplies? Do people really annotate each and every page of each and every book they read? Reading snack carts? That seems to be promoting unhealthy lifestyle. Also, Cheetos are the very WORST reading snack ever. Trust me. I know. I have many orange-stained pages to prove it. Also, does anyone really need twenty different Amazon products just to read a book more comfortably? Again, this seems to be promoting overconsumption of near-useless garbage. Moderation is the key.
Huge book hauls - I agree that this is very disturbing. Now, I have spent hundreds of dollars on books at once, though I don't do that anymore. I also only did it a couple of times a year when I happened to be near a Barnes and Noble bookstore. It was never a monthly habit. Even today, I generally only indulge in book hauls a couple of times a year through my local university and public library book sales. The result, of course, is that I have hundreds of books in my TBR pile and I have resigned myself to the fact that I probably won't get through them all. I don't believe that the people in these book haul videos even read their books, but it makes for easy content. It seems to be feeding into hoarding behavior. If or when these content creators move, they'll have to do something with all of their books. Not fun.
Ultimately, I suppose all of these social media "influencers" are creating a vicarious experience for those of us who cannot live that lifestyle. So it really is just a form of performance art. We watch these videos because we want to know what it's like to be able to do those things.
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LEE CHILD ON WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A WRITER (HT: OrangeEnt)
I know several of us (including myself) have read entries from Lee Child's Jack Reacher series. Here he gives us a breakdown of what it really takes to be a writer. He points out that you don't need a college degree in Fine Arts or anything like that. You do need to have the desire to pick up a pen and start writing, though. You also need to be a voracious READER. I've heard this many, many times. Most of my favorite authors turn out to have been avid readers in their youth before they ever started writing. Reading develops your vocabulary and allows you to see what's possible in storytelling. Then you can start crafting your own unique voice and style, synthesizing it from all of the authors you have read in the past.
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MORON RECOMMENDATIONS
If you're a cat lover, I think you'll enjoy Cat Tales, A History: How we learned to live with them... and they learned to live with us by Jerry D. Moore. He starts in prehistory when it was a predator/prey relationship on both sides, then on to mutually beneficial relationship of granary owner/mouser, and finally to fuzzy object d'art/slavish admirer.
He notes that there is an asymmetry in our relationships with other domesticated beasts that tips the relationship in humans' favor -- we use their meat, pelts, plumage, or power -- but not so with cats. We love their "intriguing indifference" to us humans. They don't perform as directed, and as for hunting rodents, terriers probably do a better job. So I guess we like them because they are Cool.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 07, 2025 10:53 AM (kpS4V)
Comment: If I didn't love my cats to much, I would have traded them to Gypsies in exchange for magic beans a long time ago. They do nothing around my house except eat my food, spit it back up, and shed their fur. Yet I wouldn't trade that for the world because they also bring me so much joy.
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This week I've been reading an odd one: Hellstrom's Hive, by Frank Herbert.
Apparently it was inspired by a quasi-documentary film called The Hellstrom Chronicle, which features a fictional scientist named Nils Hellstrom talking about how insects will inherit the earth. It looks as though Frank Herbert decided to create the fictional backstory for that film.
In the novel, Hellstrom is one of the leaders of a human hive hidden under a farm in Oregon. His cover is that he makes documentaries about insects. The hive and its members are pretty old -- Herbert doesn't actually explain how it began, but there are offhand references to migrations so presumably Oregon is just the latest home.
The hive is pretty damned creepy -- though since it was written in 1972 the cover copy and the non-hive characters in the book are all pretty excited about the NONSTOP SEX! in the hive. There's also a superweapon because the hive has some dudes with giant heads so it's more advanced than the rest of the Earth.
Opposing the Hive in the novel is an unnamed government agency, and Frank Herbert deliberately goes out of his way to make the Feds as unpleasant as possible, full of personal feuds, bureaucratic infighting, and some genuine totalitarian tendencies. The reader is left without anyone to "root for" which may explain the book's lackluster sales considering it was by the author of DUNE. I think Herbert was trying to depict the agency as kind of a rival hive of its own, just one without NONSTOP SEX! like Hellstrom's.
The book has all of Frank Herbert's strengths and weaknesses on display. The science is (for its time) solid, and the characters are vivid and well-drawn, if not especially likeable. It does have all his stylistic quirks -- lots of people's internal mental monologs, the viewpoint jumping from character to character within a scene, a touch of woo about evolution leading to some goal.
Worth a look -- I don't know if it's in print anymore. I got my copy from a giveaway pile at a science fiction convention a while back.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 07, 2025 09:44 AM (78a2H)
Comment: Stephen Baxter also wrote a novel about a hive-like human society--Coalescent. I wonder if he was inspired by Herbert's novel. It's the sort of thing he would do. I also wonder if we are seeing hive-like behavior among humans in society today. The "NPC" meme got started for a reason--because a certain subgroup of humanity began acting in lockstep with each other, changing their positions and views according to the whims of their leaders.
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Rather apropos, I'm currently reading Gods & Beasts: The Nazis & the Occult, by Dusty Sklar. Published in 1977 (I believe it was reprinted in 1989 just as The Nazis and the Occult), the book examines the influence of paganism (particularly Nordic mythology and Hinduism) and the occult upon the German people both before and after WWI.
I'm only about half-way through, but the book really helps put Adolf Hitler and the NSDAP into perspective. He didn't rise to power in a vacuum: the Germans were already talking about a Messiah that was going to rejuvenate Germany before Hitler came on the scene.
A fairly short book (180 pages), it has an extensive bibliography. However, there is a lack of citations. Rating = 4.5/5.0
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 07, 2025 09:44 AM (pJWtt)
Comment: People seem to be fascinated by the link between the Nazis and the occult. It shows up in a fair amount of pop-culture media. For instance, the Hellboy movie starring Ron Perlman and the Marvel Cinematic Universe both feature strong portrayals of Nazis dabbling in things they shouldn't. Raiders of the Lost Ark was an even earlier version of this trope. Is there anything to this idea? I dunno, but it makes for fun storytelling, combining two things that are generally forbidden (Nazism and occultism) in society.
A.H. Lloyd recommended this last week, so I decided to pull it off my shelf, blow the dust off it, and reread it. It's a very faithful novelization of the film, but as Lloyd pointed out there are a few additions which I think enhance the story a bit. The Emperor, Darth Vader, and Luke Skywalker have a little more dialogue in the book, as the Emperor attempts to turn Luke to the Dark Side of the Force. The idea of destroying Endor when the shield generator is destroyed adds a little more tension at the end, as Lando Calrissian races to destroy the Death Star's reactor before the Death Star can fire it's main weapon. Because this is a novel, we also get to peer inside character's heads from time to time, so we see why Darth Vader is finally redeemed at the end because he's willing to own up to his failings. Commander Jerjerrod is portrayed as a tyrannical popinjay. The classic obstructive bureaucrat.
Down the Bright Way by Robert Reed
The Makers created the Bright Way, a portal network linking a multiverse of Earth-like planets in a long chain. A million years ago, the humanoid Founders on a distant alternate Earth discovered how to travel the Bright Way. Their mission is to unite the various flavors of humanity on each of the alternate Earth's to form a utopian society that will last for aeons. Unfortunately, not every human society they discover along the Bright Way has the same goal in mind. Far, far down the Bright Way, many, many Earths from the Founder's homeworld, they encountered the UnFound, a version of humanity that knows only war and killing, determined to conquer and devour the countless Earths along the Bright Way.
I bought this many years ago when it first came out and just never got around to reading it until now. I thought it was an interesting take on the multiverse concept. It's similar in many ways to The Long Earth series by Terry Pratchett and Stephen Baxter. The technology in Down the Bright Way is vastly different, but it still relies on travelers going on a linear path up or down the Chain of Creation (as P.C. Hodgell describes it in her Kencyrath series). I like the various epigraphs that are used at the beginning of each chapter or section. They provide a lot of interesting world-building context. We get to see some of the personal journal entries of two conflicting Founders as the events in the story play out. As science fiction stories go, it's not bad. Definitely an interesting read.
Star Wars: Darksaber by Kevin J. Anderson
Jabba the Hutt died eight years ago at the hands of a few plucky Rebels. In the aftermath of his death, the Hutt criminal empire scoured the ruins of Jabba's palace to find the darkest secrets buried within. Now the Hutt seek to create their own Death Star-equivalent superweapon to put their criminal empire on a more equal footing with the New Republic. Or to destroy the fledgling Republic and take over the galaxy. You know how Hutts are (Jabba was representative of his species).
The Hutts' genius plan--and I swear I am not making this up--is to build a Death Star laser that looks like a giant Jedi lightsaber in space. Using that weapon of terror, they will force the rest of the galaxy into submission. Being Hutts, they are cheap bastards, so they hired Three Stooges, LLC, to construct their superweapon. It goes about as well as you would expect.
Meanwhile, on the other side of the galaxy (quite literally since Hutt Space and the Imperial Remnants are on opposite ends of the Star Wars Galaxy according to official maps), the Imperial Remnant is stirring up trouble, hoping to crush the Republic and restore their beloved Empire. Naturally, the original heroes from Star Wars--Luke, Han, and Leia--are caught in the middle.
Darksaber was written when the Star Wars novel publication rights were held by Bantam Spectra. The writers of that time didn't have too many original ideas, so they kept falling back on bigger and weirder superweapons for their main plots.
When the rights were purchased by Del Rey, they had the good sense to do a soft reboot of the franchise and developed The New Jedi Order series of stories, which are about a race of invading aliens from outside the galaxy who exist outside the Force somehow. Much better stories overall. The Bantam Spectra storylines are still "canon" within the Del Rey storylines, but the overall storylines tended to be much more varied and complex as the writers explored other Jedi besides the original power trio of Luke, Han, and Leia.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 08:57 AM (Ia/+0)
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Blucher Scourge of Napoleon
Campaign and Commanders series book #41 Michael V. Leggierre
At beginning of the Waterloo campaign so not much more to go.
Finally after 40 years of reading Napoleonic era history a explanation of a Saxon mutiny at this time. Only ever read short reports of it.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 09:00 AM (Ia/+0)
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 14, 2025 09:01 AM (QVmho)
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Good morning again dear horde and thanks Perfessor
"If I didn't love my cats to much, I would have traded them to Gypsies in exchange for magic beans a long time ago."
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No substitute for the love of a good pussycat.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 09:01 AM (9ipOP)
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That video is very funny. Thanks Perfesser and Orange Ent!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2025 09:02 AM (PFs9e)
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The only books where I have multiple copies are books that I believe are important to read, and want to loan to people. Those have a suspicious habit of not always making their way back to me.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 14, 2025 09:02 AM (0U5gm)
MP4 I have been meaning to ask you- have you started to feel better about the issue you posted before, about your friend & protege getting sudden success?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 14, 2025 10:03 AM (tcsrY)
Yes, I have. I've accepted that she's spent a great deal of money (which I do not have) to get what she has and that she is also more active and pushy for her career than I am.
I do wish her the best.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 10:08 AM (ufSfZ)
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Ah, here's the Book Thread! The world is back on its axis.
Posted by: Weak Geek at December 14, 2025 10:08 AM (p/isN)
Hundreds of residents of a Michigan community formed a human chain to help a local bookshop move each of its 9,100 books, one by one, to a new storefront located about a block away
X video: https://bit.ly/4qaj521
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 10:09 AM (P5BPp)
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I'm going to admit it...I used to make and wear pants like that in the '80s. They sure were comfy.
Last week I finished Anthony Horowitz's The House of Silk, a Sherlock Holmes pastiche. It differs from a lot of Holmes staories, including Doyle's, in that Holmes actually has a serious personal crisis -- he's framed for a murder and sent to prison! He escapes in a method that Harry Houdini (who knew Doyle) might have admired. Plus there is a secondary mystery allied with the main one that Holmes solves in a very neat and well-clued fashion.
I've also read one of AH's Daniel Hawthorne mysteries, one of the series where he puts himself in as not only author but participant, blurring the line between fiction and reality. Not bad, but Hawthorne is kind of a cipher -- which Horowitz is at pains to mention, and complain about.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 10:11 AM (wzUl9)
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The only books where I have multiple copies are books that I believe are important to read, and want to loan to people. Those have a suspicious habit of not always making their way back to me.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 14, 2025 09:02 AM (0U5gm)
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I long ago made it policy to buy any copy of Bored of the Rings that I came across. I already had one, but wanted other to read it and - completely predictably - this one never comes back. I have one copy at present that is not allowed to leave the house.
Posted by: dantesed at December 14, 2025 10:12 AM (Oy/m2)
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I'm finally getting around to reading moron Daniel Humphries, Paxton Locke series. I'm on book 3 of 7. It's good escapism reading. Reminds me of Larry Correia's MHI world. Would recommend.
I'm also listening to Larry Correia's Son of the Black sword.
Not a lot of reading to report -- looked over one called So We Read On, M. Corrigan's book about Gatsby.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 14, 2025 10:13 AM (q3u5l)
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I came across this in my readings. This is not a commentary on Islam, but about the nomad Bedouins. Anyway, it sounds like they have been adept at basic first aid for centuries:
"There is also many a bold spirit among the Aarab (Bedouins), of men and women, that being hurt, snatching a brand from the hearth, will sear his wounded flesh, till the fire be quenched in the suffering fibre : and they can endure pain (necessitous persons, whose livelihood is as a long punishment,) with constant fortitude."
Posted by: fd at December 14, 2025 10:13 AM (vFG9F)
Posted by: Eromero at December 14, 2025 10:14 AM (DXbAa)
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Currently I have shifted to some nonfiction. Larry McMurtry: A Life by Tracy Daugherty, a novelist himself, focuses on the life and work of the author of Lonesome Dove. While I'm not a *big* fan of McMurtry, I love many of his characters such as Gus and Capt. Call, and I'm curious about the events that shaped him and his work. I'm especially looking forward to his adventures in Hollywood.
The other nonfiction on my TBR pile is C.S. Lewis: A Life by one Alister McGrath. I know more about Lewis's works than I do about his life, and I don't know his works that well. Time to rectify that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 10:15 AM (wzUl9)
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I will admit that I have double copies of some Matt Helm books because I'm collecting the painted covers. However, not all of the books have those covers, so I've accumulated the original covers in order to have the series looking as uniform as possible.
Posted by: Weak Geek at December 14, 2025 10:15 AM (p/isN)
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So, this past week was another where I went to the used book store to help with my depression. I picked up A Village In The Third Reich by Julia Boyd, author of Travelers In The Third Reich. This latter book looks at the Bavarian village of Obserstdorf and how it dealt with the rise and fall of Hitler.
I also bought Daniel Swift's The Dream Factory: London's First Playhouse and the Making of William Shakespeare, which would be a perfect read for this snowy day if I didn't have writing to do myself.
I'm still depressed, though.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 10:15 AM (ufSfZ)
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While Winston Churchill did many notable things in his life, among them being part of the last ever British cavalry charge, one event in his youth stood out: being a prisoner of war and escaping from the Boers. Celia Sandys uses the diaries of her grandfather as well as South African accounts to retell the story in Churchill: Wanted Dead or Alive.
In November 1899, while attached as a member of the press, Churchill was on a troop train that was attacked by the Boers and derailed. Under fire, Churchill raced to the engine to see what could be done, and tried to rally the men, but was captured. After a few weeks of captivity, he chose to make a break for it over the wall; two fellow prisoners failed to make it. Wanted posters were put up and rangers searched for him, but to no avail. After holing up in a mine in the region, he snuck into a freight car on a train headed to Durban and made good his escape.
Churchill always seemed to cheat fate. A few years prior he was missed by a Cuban bullet by mere inches, he had been in fierce fighting in India, and had fought the Mahdi in Sudan, but after this escape he became a household name worldwide.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 14, 2025 10:16 AM (0U5gm)
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Read Return of the Jedi in 4th grade. I have that book somewhere here.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 14, 2025 10:16 AM (LjSYW)
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I keep a journal as I read now. If work gets me too busy to do anything and it's weeks before I get back into a book then that helps me catch up. Also I'm using it to practice my cursive. And I include little drawings and stuff in it. I read and then before I go to bed I do the journal.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 14, 2025 10:16 AM (3uBP9)
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Yay! Book Thread lives! I'm enjoying my re-read of The Hobbit, picking up more subtle humor as I go.
I should mention that we have many, many copies of Tolkien's work and the primary reason is that my father early on learned that I loved his stuff, and so for the longest time, that was his go-to present for me. Still is! He has a search on Amazon, and if a new edition or book comes up, it arrives in the mail.
We have six copies of LotR: the 1960s boxed paperback with the iconic map on the sides; a cloth-bound hardcover boxed set from the 1980s that was billed as the most accurate when it came out (heavily used), a single-volume leather and gilt edition in decorative box, single-volume paperback, 80s era boxed pocket paperback set found in my father's basement that he forgot about, 1990s three-volume version just because.
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After burning through two fantasy novels in recent weeks, I fell back into comics. Fantasy comics; "DemonWars: Trial By Fire" and "DemonWars: Eye for an Eye." Two short mini-series from the early 00's. They are prequels/side-stories to R.A. Salvatore's DemonWars novels. They star a ranger (who looks like a standard barbarian) who hunts 'demons' of various types.
The second series (Eye for an Eye) is significantly better than the first. It has a much better artist. Also, there are two writers listed (R.A. Salvatore and Scott Giencin) so I assume that Salvatore (a novelist) came up with the outline, and let Giencin turn the idea into a comic book script. The first series didn't flow well, like some story elements didn't survive the transition, while the second series felt much more like a made-for-the-comic story.
The stories were fun enough. Alas, there are no further comics. Maybe I'll pick up the novels sometime.
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 14, 2025 10:17 AM (Lhaco)
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Also on TBR pile: one of Robert Parker's Sunny Randall mysteries, Melancholy Baby; and the second of Anthony Horowitz's "autobiographical" adventures with detective Daniel Hawthorne, The Word Is Murder. The latter is mentioned various times in AH's The Twist of a Knife, the one I just finished.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 10:17 AM (wzUl9)
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It looks as if I'll wrap up this year with Bond.
Wrap. Bond. That's a joke, folks!
*ahem*
I've begun the second of the five stories in "For Your Eyes Only," and again it shows the pitfalls of being contemporary, as Bond remarks that Castro may topple Batista soon.
I've been remiss in my reading this past week, because after a day of reading at work, I devote time to the news stories I had to pass, and there is also the lure of TV (YouTube) and DVDs. Then count the time devoted to chores, church, and celebrations. That includes Christmas shopping. Things should settle after New Year's Day.
Posted by: Weak Geek at December 14, 2025 10:17 AM (p/isN)
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“The "NPC" meme got started for a reason--because a certain subgroup of humanity began acting in lockstep with each other, changing their positions and views according to the whims of their leaders.”
I don’t think that’s anything new; in fact it reminds me of my favorite quote from the opening to what I think is one of the most insightful books ever written, “Extraordinary popular delusions and the madness of crowds” by Mackay. It’s amazing to read it and see that it was written in 1841, because it could have been written yesterday with just a couple of extra chapters.
“Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.”
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 10:18 AM (k5cxK)
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We have two trade paperback versions of The Hobbit, a hardcover illustrated version and the annotated edition.
Four copies of The Silmarillion: trade paperback beaten to hell with misprinted cover, upscale 90s paperback, worn clothbound hardcover, and presentation leather boxed edition.
At one point, I decided to collect every US printing of the works of Harlan Ellison and Fritz Leiber.
Was damned close too. Could have counted the missing items on my fingers and toes, and had a few toes left over.
I was priced out of that when the specialty presses started doing limited slipcased volumes, and HE's Stalking the Nightmare came out with a printing of 26 copies in a carved wooden box as well as trade and signed slipcased. Gave up on completing the collections then, and sold most of 'em off so I wouldn't be tempted to do that again.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 14, 2025 10:19 AM (q3u5l)
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A book I picked up from the library yesterday is Twelve Churches: An Unlikely History of the Buildings That Made Christianity by the Anglican priest Fergus Butler-Gallie. It's a look at various churches and how they shaped our views of Christ as well as His teachings. It highlights the Church of the Nativity, Hagia Sophia, Canterbury and so on.
There is a chapter on the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham. This being a 2025 book as well as written by an Anglican, I am girding my loins and expecting some TDS screed. We shall see.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 10:20 AM (ufSfZ)
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“Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one.”
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 10:18 AM (k5cxK)
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Yeah, mob mentality goes back for millennia...
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A couple of lighter novels also dealt with Nazis and the occult - Kathryn Kurtz had one, focusing on an English occult group defending against a Nazi invasion. Can't recall the title, but it was pretty dark, and involved a willing sacrifice. And Barbara Hambly had one also - The Magicians of Night.
My own reading this week - plowing through Farmer's "The Other Log of Phineas Fogg" which was mentioned a couple of book threads ago. Not that impressed - a lot of tedious narration, not much description or dialog; flat and not engaging. Richard Peck's "A Long Way From Chicago" (also mentioned here) was much more enjoyable.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom at December 14, 2025 10:21 AM (Ew3fm)
40Churchill always seemed to cheat fate. A few years prior he was missed by a Cuban bullet by mere inches, he had been in fierce fighting in India, and had fought the Mahdi in Sudan, but after this escape he became a household name worldwide.
He was also nearly run over by a NYC taxi in the 1920s.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 10:22 AM (ufSfZ)
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My youngest is re-reading Lord of the Rings, and went from a fan of the Peter Jackson movies to a bitter critic of them.
Welcome to the club! I have to say that at this late date, I prefer Bakshi's flawed fragment because at least I don't have to watch elves shield-surfing their way through Helm's Deep.
The strengths of Jackson's film are its visuals, particularly sets, costumes, cast and music (though Bakshi's has some good stuff there). But the plot - taken as a plot - is incoherent. It doesn't just fail as an adaptation, it fails as a film.
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When I buy a book I've been looking for, such as the Popular Library edition of Jackson's The Haunting of Hill House, I like to try for one with the same cover as I knew before. My current copy of THoHH is falling apart -- I've had it since high school, "during the Punic Wars" -- but copies of that movie tie-in edition on AbeBooks are kind of $$.
If I replace any of my James Bond Signet paperbacks, I know I want the ones issued ca. the time of the first film, with "IAN FLEMING" in huge letters, "A James Bond Thriller" vertically down the right edge, and a small color painting above the title and below Fleming's name. Usually the image was of the girl in the adventure, but not always. Bond is shown on the cover of Casino Royale and Mr. Big on Live and Let Die, for instance.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 10:23 AM (wzUl9)
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Churchill always seemed to cheat fate. A few years prior he was missed by a Cuban bullet by mere inches, he had been in fierce fighting in India, and had fought the Mahdi in Sudan, but after this escape he became a household name worldwide.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 14, 2025 10:16 AM (0U5gm)
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You left out battalion commander on the Western Front. No risk there!
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From what I've read, Hitler himself was your basic secular unbeliever raised Catholic. But Himmler apparently never met a crazy idea he didn't like, and he was the main patron and advocate for all the "Occult Nazi" crap.
Lefties don't like to mention it, but there was a pretty strong strain of "alternative spirituality" going on in Germany even before WWI, and with the collapse of faith in society and religion after 1918, a lot of occult weirdness came bubbling up. (Not to mention the boom in Spiritualists claiming to speak with the dead, always a big business after a war.) And it's always been true that people who are into "alternative spirituality" are more likely to be into "alternative political systems" too. Like Mr. Himmler. Some of the early Bolsheviks were also advocates of a Tsarist-era woo movement called Cosmicism. And of course modern American progressives are insatiable consumers of astrology, psychic readings, wicca, and any amount of bogus Asian woo.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 14, 2025 10:24 AM (78a2H)
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I recently purchased a short comic-book-run off of ebay, and the seller gave me a freebie to go with my order; "The Best of 2000 AD," from May of 2022. While I know you can't put much story in a single anthology comic...if this is what they consider their 'best' I will not be reading anything from 2000 AD in the foreeable future.
The book lead with a Judge Dredd story, then there was a Torquemada the Chief Terminator story, a few other random shorts...I think I'm supposed to say the stories are 'satire,' or maybe 'parody,' but I can't. The stories read like mean-spirited mockery. Stupid people being stupid in a stupid setting. The stories ranged from 'bad' to 'couldn't hold my attention past the first page.'
I'm glad I didn't pay anything for this, because it's probably ending up in the recycling bin.
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 14, 2025 10:25 AM (Lhaco)
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Churchill always seemed to cheat fate. A few years prior he was missed by a Cuban bullet by mere inches, he had been in fierce fighting in India, and had fought the Mahdi in Sudan, but after this escape he became a household name worldwide.
He was also nearly run over by a NYC taxi in the 1920s.
Posted by: Mary Poppins'
When he was a boy, he was playing with friends a game like 'tag'. He found himself on a high foot bridge, with his opponents on either side. To avoid capture, he jumped from the bridge, aiming for a tree. Ended up with a broken collarbone. There are so many what ifs in his life, it is amazing he lasted until age 65, when his destiny was revealed while Dunkirk was under siege.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 14, 2025 10:26 AM (0U5gm)
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As far as my own writing is concerned, I think the release of my new Theda Bara novel is going to be long delayed. While I did finish and type up the first draft, it's really unsatisfactory and I'm not sure how to develop things. As well, the added research I need to do to get details right is, in this case, so paralyzing that it's kept me from putting pen to paper for weeks.
I discussed this with my muse, who suggested an - at first glance - radical restructuring. I've been giving it some thought and sketched out a few ideas. The problem is that I just don't have the energy or will to write (which is why I am an amateur and hack and not a pro). There's something deep inside really holding me back, but I can't put my finger on it. I can identify surface disappointments, but the central dissatisfaction remains untouched.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 10:26 AM (ufSfZ)
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I'm reading Many Dimensions by Charles Williams and at the same time going through a bunch of Wodehouse, some new some old that I enjoyed reading again. Wodehouse is like a comfort food in that I can reread his short stories quickly, in one setting, and come out of it feeling great living in his funny world.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 14, 2025 10:26 AM (3uBP9)
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Perfessor, I had to go to the store earlier, so I'm wearing pants for the Book Thread (for a change).
Honestly, it cramps my style.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 10:27 AM (kpS4V)
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Why the film version featured a uk decoding device and a vengeful greek woman
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 14, 2025 10:28 AM (bXbFr)
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From what I've read, Hitler himself was your basic secular unbeliever raised Catholic. But Himmler apparently never met a crazy idea he didn't like, and he was the main patron and advocate for all the "Occult Nazi" crap.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 14, 2025 10:24 AM (78a2H)
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He was a cultural Catholic because he was born in Austria. No real tie to the faith. If he'd been born in Bremen he'd have been Lutheran. Germany was in a nationalist ferment due to unification and there was a desire to separate its faith from all the others, hence the Kulturkampf against Catholics as well as German theologians declaring that Lutheranism was the highest form of faith. (They're the ones who cooked up the bogus 'evolution' from animism to paganism, to monotheism, etc.)
As Christianity was deconstructed, neopaganism came back in a big way and Wagner was emblematic of this.
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It's sometimes fun to see book-haul videos, but those are not replicatable in my own life. I have neither the budget nor the shelf-space to make multiple large additions to the library. When I do make additions, they need to be spaced out, to prolong the joy-of-acquisition. To say nothing of the time it takes to actually read through the new pile.
I'm also fond of library-tour-videos, again, because it's something I can't have myself, and it's fun to live vicariously through others. I watch setting-up-aquarium videos for the same reason. Which reminds me, I need to block out some time for the latest 'Tanks For Nothing' video...
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 14, 2025 10:29 AM (Lhaco)
53 I've begun the second of the five stories in "For Your Eyes Only," and again it shows the pitfalls of being contemporary, as Bond remarks that Castro may topple Batista soon. . . .
Posted by: Weak Geek at December 14, 2025
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Fleming tried to be contemporary in his background details. He just didn't let them get in the way of a good story. SMERSH, for instance, really existed; but it was a kill squad for Soviet traitors, I think, not a spy agency that operated outside the Soviet Union. And in any case it had been disbanded (or renamed into the NKVD or KGB or whatever) before Fleming started the series. The name, SMERSH, was just too good to pass up.
Mentioning Castro and Batista, like using real brand names and places, grounded the high-flying Bond stories and allowed you to believe in his adventures.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 10:29 AM (wzUl9)
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I have a couple of editions of some Lovecraft books -- my beloved old crappy paperbacks that I can't bring myself to get rid of, and some newer spiffy editions, some with scholarly notes, and a couple of the amazing illustrated versions by Francois Baranger.
And I think I've got three or four different translations of Beowulf.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 14, 2025 10:30 AM (78a2H)
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"Honest book titles " was a funny video. Thanks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2025 10:30 AM (ix8EF)
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51 From what I've read, Hitler himself was your basic secular unbeliever raised Catholic. But Himmler apparently never met a crazy idea he didn't like, and he was the main patron and advocate for all the "Occult Nazi" crap.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 14, 2025 10:24 AM (78a2H)
I remember hearing somewhat underground stories about Nazis and the Occult in the 70’s, long before Spielberg or Marvel picked up on them and popularized the idea.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 10:31 AM (k5cxK)
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>>Posted by: Sgt. Mom at December 14, 2025 10:21 AM (Ew3fm)
Sgt. Mom, the Kurtz book was Lammas Night.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 14, 2025 10:32 AM (NcvvS)
58Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 10:27 AM (kpS4V)
Eris, did you get the gift I sent you?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 10:32 AM (ufSfZ)
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If I have multiple copies of a book, it's usually by accident. Which is a problem of its own--if I buy a book, not knowing I already have it, I'm not reading what's on my shelves, am I?
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"...I myself have two copies of Lord of the Rings, as well as a few extra copies of select books..."
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Piker! I have four versions of The Hobbit alone!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 10:32 AM (kpS4V)
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I remember hearing somewhat underground stories about Nazis and the Occult in the 70’s, long before Spielberg or Marvel picked up on them and popularized the idea.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 10:31 AM (k5cxK)
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It's a fascinating topic. The British had their own version of this with the new Druids running around and of course Boadicea was strongly identified with Queen Victoria as a symbol of "true Britain," before the Romans came.
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16 Last week I finished Anthony Horowitz's The House of Silk, a Sherlock Holmes pastiche. It differs from a lot of Holmes staories, including Doyle's, in that Holmes actually has a serious personal crisis -- he's framed for a murder and sent to prison! He escapes in a method that Harry Houdini (who knew Doyle) might have admired. Plus there is a secondary mystery allied with the main one that Holmes solves in a very neat and well-clued fashion.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 10:11 AM (wzUl9)
I had not heard (or perhaps just no remembered) that Doyle actually knew Houdini. That does add some context to a story I read where a Holmes-knock-off actually studied Houdini-style escape techniques/performances...
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 14, 2025 10:33 AM (Lhaco)
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"...I myself have two copies of Lord of the Rings, as well as a few extra copies of select books..."
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Piker! I have four versions of The Hobbit alone!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 10:32 AM (kpS4V)
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I admit I could use a much better copy of The Hobbit. My only copy is an ancient paperback that's somewhat falling apart.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 14, 2025 10:35 AM (Kt19C)
66You do need to have the desire to pick up a pen and start writing, though. You also need to be a voracious READER.
Definitely so. They say you are what you eat; I think, more importantly, you are, to some extent, what you read. Reading widely gives you so much knowledge and context for forming your ideas and expressing yourself.
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 10:35 AM (2L+MU)
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" Who needs several drawers of annotation supplies? Do people really annotate each and every page of each and every book they read? "
I don't write in my books. If I want annotation, I will put it on a separate piece of paper and put it back by the glossary.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 14, 2025 10:35 AM (0U5gm)
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As I said, there was an occult strain in the Notzee party, baked in from the start. The party itself was established as a political wing by members of the Thule Society, an "occult study group" that met in Munich, run by a grifter named "Baron Seebottendorf." (The Baron, no fool, didn't stay in Germany when the Party took over and spent the war in Istanbul, drawing pay as an intelligence agent but not doing much. He killed himself when Berlin fell in 1945, or possibly was assisted in doing so).
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 14, 2025 10:36 AM (78a2H)
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Of course the news peg is subordjnate to ghe main story
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 14, 2025 10:36 AM (bXbFr)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 14, 2025 10:35 AM (Kt19C)
*comes running into the thread*
Did anyone mention shelves?
Posted by: Ace's Doppelganger at December 14, 2025 10:37 AM (iJfKG)
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Yep - that was the book. I have it on the shelves somewhere in the hall. I believe that there was a lot floating around early on (60s, 70s) about the Nazi obsession with matters occult, before Indiana Jones movies brought it to wider awareness.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom at December 14, 2025 10:38 AM (Ew3fm)
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Brian Regan did a hilarious stand-up routine about his OCD and how it affects his shelf-organization of books.
https://tinyurl.com/43pzfjcy
Posted by: Paco at December 14, 2025 10:39 AM (2L+MU)
74I had not heard (or perhaps just no remembered) that Doyle actually knew Houdini. That does add some context to a story I read where a Holmes-knock-off actually studied Houdini-style escape techniques/performances...
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 14, 2025
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Houdini wrangled with Doyle about the issue of spiritualism. Doyle had come to believe in ghosts, life after death, and the existence of creatures like fairies, while Houdini spotted the spiritualists' stage tricks and did not believe.
Doyle lived until 1930, while Houdini died only four years earlier. We think of Doyle as nineteenth-century, and HH as twentieth, but they were both born in the 1800s and died during the first third of the 1900s.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 10:39 AM (wzUl9)
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Nazis: tree huggers, occult followers, faggots in leadership, avowed socialists. But right wingers.
Got it.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 14, 2025 10:40 AM (LjSYW)
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Reading develops your vocabulary and allows you to see what's possible in storytelling. Then you can start crafting your own unique voice and style, synthesizing it from all of the authors you have read in the past.
My question about that is does reading in the past help if you read less now because of whatever reason? Like bad eyesight, lack of interest in most stuff out? I don't read as much as I used to, so does that effect my writing?
I get some feedback here and there, but I wonder if I need to read more to get better at writing.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 14, 2025 10:40 AM (uQesX)
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As to Doyle and Houdini, they were friends at first, but basically as Doyle slid more and more into Spiritualism while Houdini got more active in debunking it, their disagreement became a breach. The two main points of conflict were when Doyle's wife took down messages from Houdini's late mother via "automatic writing," which were full of errors and were _written in English_, a language Erich Weiss's mom never mastered. Doyle suggested that maybe she learned it in the afterlife. The other was when Houdini showed how to do the "miraculous feats" of spiritualist grifters via stage magic, and Doyle suggested that maybe Houdini was unconsciously using spirit aid himself.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 14, 2025 10:41 AM (78a2H)
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I finished Untrue Till Death, the second of the Master Mercurius series, by Graham Brach. Master Mercurius, undercover Catholic priest and also a Protestant minister in 17th century Reformation Holland is drafted by William of Orange to investigate the murder of one of his undercover agents snooping out a conspiracy against him in the Leiden University where Mercurius is employed as an instructor in philosophy. Like the first book, Death In Delft, this is an interesting and well written historical fiction mystery that rings of authenticity.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 10:41 AM (L/fGl)
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Reading snacks - Younger will use chopsticks to eat chips while browsing her phone or reading
Elder & I are messy
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 14, 2025 10:41 AM (gDlxJ)
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Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.
Phew! The book thread is up. I was starting withdrawal symptoms.
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 10:42 AM (yTvNw)
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I think people are fascinated by Nazis and the occult because...what if it worked?!
NONSTOP PERVITIN-BUZZED SAXON SEX! in Wewelsburg ushering in the old gods.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 10:42 AM (kpS4V)
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Houdini gave his wife a secret password so she could determine frauds when trying to contact him if he died first.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 10:42 AM (KDPiq)
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I have two copies of LOTR, a rather ordinary 70’s paperback version, plus my original set, the 1965 2nd Edition boxed set, black hardcover with the gorgeous yellow, red, and purple rings embossed on the respective covers.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 10:43 AM (k5cxK)
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Houdini would have made a good detective himself. I'd be surprised if someone hasn't written a novel or short stories with him solving a murder or two, possibly "impossible" or "locked room" ones.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 10:43 AM (wzUl9)
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Magic-using National Socialists also makes for great pulp and superhero action stories. Meanwhile the Japanese Army gets ninjas and the IJN has Godzilla.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 14, 2025 10:44 AM (78a2H)
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Didn’t read anything this week but I did get my laundry squared away. Very proud of that.
Posted by: Pudinhead at December 14, 2025 10:44 AM (u83p8)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 10:44 AM (Ia/+0)
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Lot of Jew hating former Marxists in the Nazis. Goebbels was one of them.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 10:44 AM (KDPiq)
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I have a book somewhere on how the Nazis spent quite a bit of time and money searching for the 'secrets' of the original Aryans.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 14, 2025 10:44 AM (0U5gm)
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>>My question about that is does reading in the past help if you read less now because of whatever reason?
Wondered about that. Not a writer, but thought that with retirement there would be more reading time. It's actually been less because a) lot of time spent here and b) not reading in the evenings as much because sleep happens quickly.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 14, 2025 10:45 AM (NcvvS)
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Far and away my favorite non Conan Doyle Holmes.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 10:45 AM (L/fGl)
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Houdini actually wrote and starred in a couple of silent movies in which he played a detective (Secret Service agent, I think) solving crimes. He got tied up a lot, of course.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 14, 2025 10:45 AM (78a2H)
He used to host a live radio show on lefty KPFK, "hour 25".
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 14, 2025 10:46 AM (Kt19C)
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OT Brown U:; Once again media and authorities deliberately become stammering idiots when talking about the latest mass shooting, because the facts don’t fit their oppression narrative.
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at December 14, 2025 10:46 AM (jYRYu)
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OT Brown U:; Once again media and authorities deliberately become stammering idiots when talking about the latest mass shooting, because the facts don’t fit their oppression narrative.
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at December 14, 2025 10:46 AM (jYRYu)
Did they identify the shooter yet?
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 10:47 AM (KDPiq)
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Houdini would have made a good detective himself. I'd be surprised if someone hasn't written a novel or short stories with him solving a murder or two, possibly "impossible" or "locked room" ones.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 10:43 AM (wzUl9)
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Houdini and HP Lovecraft collaborated on a few short stories. "Imprisoned with the Pharaohs" the the most famous. Features Houdini being trapped deep under a pyramid where he encounters the being that inspired the Sphinx.
97Houdini gave his wife a secret password so she could determine frauds when trying to contact him if he died first.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025
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There was a rather well-done TV-movie in the '70s, I think, with Paul Michael Glaser (Starsky and Hutch) in the title role. Since then I've always pictured HH as looking like him. I think the password business was mentioned in it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 10:47 AM (wzUl9)
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83 I have two copies of LOTR, a rather ordinary 70’s paperback version, plus my original set, the 1965 2nd Edition boxed set, black hardcover with the gorgeous yellow, red, and purple rings embossed on the respective covers.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 10:43 AM
I picked up a(nother) paperback set at Half-Price books awhile back.
Posted by: Eromero at December 14, 2025 10:48 AM (DXbAa)
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This week's Kindle read was the series "Fred the Vampire Accountant" by Drew Hayes. It's the engaging tale of Fred, a very mild-mannered accountant, who stumbles into a wild paranormal world when he is turned into a vampire.
There are nine short novels in the series and I'm working on the final one, hoping the arch-villain will finally get his comeuppance.
Minimal gore (it's an adventure, not horror, story) and sex, while mentioned, is not graphically described.
It's definitely worth your while.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 14, 2025 10:49 AM (0vB2I)
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Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 10:47 AM (wzUl9)
I think Glaser resembled him a lot more than Tony Curtis.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 10:49 AM (KDPiq)
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Started my traditional Christmas books. This week was The Christmas Cantata, one of the Liturgical Mysteries series by Mark Schweizer. An older friend, now gone, got me a signed hardcover edition as a gift. I was already a fan of the series. This one is a mystery but not a murder mystery. It is heartbreakingly poignant at times, includes his trademark humor, and is a story of redemption and acceptance. I fell in love with it on that first reading years ago and look forward to it every season.
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 10:49 AM (yTvNw)
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Nazis: tree huggers, occult followers, faggots in leadership, avowed socialists. But right wingers.
Got it.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner
And, like today, all justified by the science they believed in.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 10:50 AM (L/fGl)
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Eris, have you ever had a ‘tame’ cat?
Posted by: Eromero at December 14, 2025 10:14 AM (DXbAa)
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No. Not one. They've all been semi-wild savages who purr and cut cute capers around the house to lull me into submission.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 10:50 AM (kpS4V)
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At the moment there are very few duplicate copies on my shelves; there used to be more, especially during the Ellison-Leiber collecting years. Toss in the Kindle library and assorted PDFs and I've probably duplicated almost everything that remains of my physical book collection; if I saved the hard drive in a house fire, I'd probably lose no more than a dozen titles.
Always liked having duplicates -- somehow I was certain that I'd take a book with me somewhere and it would get mangled (seldom happened, but...). Couldn't hurt to have two.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 14, 2025 10:50 AM (q3u5l)
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I read Shroud by Adrian Tchaikovsky. I've read a lot of science fiction and I don't know how I missed this author. Shroud is a high-gravity, high-pressure, zero-oxygen moon. It is pitch black, but alive with radio activity. Due to an accident, Juna and Mai are forced to make an emergency landing there in their small, barely adequate vehicle. Unable to contact their ship, they are force to journey across land, sea, and air. Chapters alternate between the human viewpoint and the viewpoint of Shroud's dominate species as they try to understand each other. Fascinating story, interesting characters.
Posted by: Zoltan at December 14, 2025 10:51 AM (VOrDg)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 10:51 AM (kpS4V)
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I’ve been reading more non-fiction lately. A number of biographies and autobiographies mostly.
Re-read Secret Language of Color also which discusses the science of color, where it occurs in nature and the general aesthetics of color. Very interesting.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 10:52 AM (KDPiq)
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The 'these pants' selection is one of the most awkward looking items of clothing I've seen. MC Hammer has a lot to apologize for. And those shoes look they came from Bozo the Clown. They do have the benefit of pushing me back to the thread faster.
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 10:53 AM (yTvNw)
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Houdini would have made a good detective himself. I'd be surprised if someone hasn't written a novel or short stories with him solving a murder or two, possibly "impossible" or "locked room" ones.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 10:43 AM (wzUl9)
He made Haldane of the Secret Service, The Master Mystery and Terror Island in 1919 and 1920, all showing him as an investigator. The films were only partly successful, because for audiences, Houdini's 'escapes' were not suspenseful. If he was trying to get out of the Chinese Water Torture box on stage, for example, there was always the possibility he would fail. Trapped in the same box on film, there was no way to know that they didn't just stop the camera, release Houdini and then crank it up again.
Houdini's surviving films were released on DVD by Kino Lorber in 2008.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 10:53 AM (ufSfZ)
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I finally finished "Rules of the Game" re: Jutland and the British Navy. My daughter has been reading "Frankenstein" for her lit class, so I decided to pick up my own copy. I've never read it myself. We watched the recent Netflix version before she started reading the original, and now she hates the Netflix version because of all the changes Guillermo del Toro made.
Maybe I'll give her a copy of whichever MHI book is built around Agent Franks; I can't recall the title right now.
Posted by: PabloD at December 14, 2025 10:54 AM (Epuwl)
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AoSHq is 95% of my 'social media', so I'm not going to get sucked into that kind of Performance Art. My problem is that books are available so cheap that I'm always tempted when I see something interesting. (My interests are also too broad) A not entirely successful solution is using the library.
Just in the last month thanks to Library/Libby audio:
Good/great:
Path Between the Seas (DMC) about Panama Canal
Wooden by JW
MAGA Doctrine - Charlie Kirk
How to Test Negative for Stupid - John Kennedy
Winston's War - Max Hastings.
OK - Better without any politics:
Philospher in the Vallley - about Alex Karp, founder of Palantir. I knew nothing about topic, 75% of book is good, author M Steinberger is leftist idiot.
100 Rules for 100 - Dick Van Dyke - I can stand listening to a Bernie Bro if crap not pushed in my face, this was good.
Definitely not recommending:
Ed Begley Jr- made it through the book, thought about it too much after. This guy is an arrogant ass.
The Martians - D Baron about Percival Lowell & reporting on Mars from a century ago. Way too much current politics shoved into this book. Could have been good.
Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at December 14, 2025 10:54 AM (KaHlS)
You're not the only one. I don't usually comment much on news threads -- I tend to have bloodthirsty thoughts on reading the stories and I don't usually care to express them.
Book thread is my primary, almost only, online interaction time.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 14, 2025 10:55 AM (q3u5l)
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85 Magic-using National Socialists also makes for great pulp and superhero action stories. Meanwhile the Japanese Army gets ninjas and the IJN has Godzilla.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 14, 2025 10:44 AM (78a2H)
I've actually become quite jaded about nazis in pulp stories. Purely because it's been overdone. Too many writers use them, too few use other equally valid villains....and too many modern people mis-use the term and apply it to everyone they don't like.
Also, they had a relatively short reign. Not long nearly long enough to pull off the crazy feats that is required of pulp-story-villains. I read one story where they created some master-race-super-soldiers via a selective breeding program, and all I could think of how the most that program could have actually produced was a couple of nine-year-olds...
Now, if the bolsheviks had started a selective breeding program for humans....Well, they actually had the time to run that program through a few generations! But, alas, if you consider the bolsheviks to be bad, you're probably not allowed to be a mainstream writer...
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 14, 2025 10:56 AM (Lhaco)
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I received some old books from the widow of a good friend, some of which were old copies of mine that were lent back when we were all in College together. As Roger Zelazney joked, "Nobody steals your books but your friends." With those old paperbacks to start with, I have been replacing some Old Friends (beloved books from the past...) with the editions that I first read as a wee pup. I started with the Zelazney 'Amber' books in their first Avon printing, with the black and white lettering, then the rest of his works from those editions. Then the DAW editions of Moorcock's works (Yeah, not nearly as interesting at 60 as they were at 15...), Julian May's 'Many-Colored Land' books with the Whelan cover art, Stephen R. Donaldson's 'Thomas Covenant' books from the original paperback printings by Del Rey, etc. I then constructed a bookshelf so that they all fit together in one place. It's quite lovely, and, as ever, a Work in Progress. I believe my old pal would have enjoyed seeing it.
Posted by: Brewingfrog at December 14, 2025 10:56 AM (2A6DC)
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Also read Tesla vs Edison . It was like reading a better version of Wikipedia. I liked it.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 10:57 AM (KDPiq)
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Far and away my favorite non Conan Doyle Holmes.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 10:45 AM (L/fGl)
The English writer June Thompson wrote a number of Holmes pastiches, each one of the 'unreleased' cases that Watson described - the Giant Rat of Sumatra, or the adventure of The Amateur Mendicants, &c. Her characters are not really true to the Doyle canon - her Watson is particularly irritating, more Nigel Bruce than Edward Hardwicke - but her plots are very clever.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 10:57 AM (ufSfZ)
118Eris, have you ever had a ‘tame’ cat?
Posted by: Eromero at December 14, 2025 10:14 AM (DXbAa)
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No. Not one. They've all been semi-wild savages who purr and cut cute capers around the house to lull me into submission.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025
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Marie-Antoinette the Queen of All Cats came close to "tame." Sure, she caused trouble; she broke a mirror (imagine a black cat breaking a mirror!), knocked my watch to the (fortunately carpeted) floor, and other things. But she loved human attention and was always either sitting or sleeping with us, and was good-natured and adaptable to an extreme.
Of course, she passed on almost twenty years ago now, so my memory may be hazy.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 10:57 AM (wzUl9)
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Still reading my biography of Grant. So many men he fought with during the Mexican War would be on the opposite side later. James Longstreet served as best man to Ulysses when he finally married Julia; he and Grant's two groomsmen joined the Confederacy and would surrender to Grant at Appomattox.
He seemed to be universally considered by his contemporaries to be of a gentle and thoughtful temperament and highly moral, and a terrific horseman. He loved animals and hated cruelty toward them.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 10:58 AM (kpS4V)
Oh, dear. Amazon said it was delivered. Are you still at the Rochester Hills address?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 10:58 AM (ufSfZ)
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I have a couple of signed "First editions" of the same book: I am into mysteries, so if an English author i liked published something, I'd try to get the first edition published in England and then the first edition published in the US. For Batya Gur, an israeli author, I got the Hebrew first edition, the first edition of the English translation in the US, and the first edition French translation.
I'm old now, no one wants them in my family, so I'm trying to sell them. No one wants to buy them either. I thought even morbid people would want some of my signed first edition Anne Perry. Nope.
Posted by: Lee Also at December 14, 2025 10:58 AM (IrqeV)
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I want to finish Blucher Scourge of Napoleon today as I want to reread The First Russian Revolution the Decembrest Revolt of 1825 because the 200th anniversary is Dec 14 ( old style calendar 12 days behind so actually happened Dec 26 1825
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 10:58 AM (Ia/+0)
Posted by: Guy who says "ahoy bookfagz" at December 14, 2025 10:58 AM (TbWk/)
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I raised my cats ( kittens) like dogs. They didn’t turn out exactly like dogs but did pick up a lot of their good traits.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:01 AM (KDPiq)
125The Martians - D Baron about Percival Lowell & reporting on Mars from a century ago. Way too much current politics shoved into this book. Could have been good.
I read that and agree. Glad I got it from the library and didn't buy it.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 11:01 AM (ufSfZ)
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40 minute video on the substance abuse of 25 top Nazis.
https://is.gd/JljfaQ
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 10:57 AM (L/fGl)
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I look forward to watching it.
Back when it was The Hitler Channel, History Channel showed a program called "High Hitler". 😆
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 11:01 AM (kpS4V)
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Stopping by briefly as I am consumed by the news of the day but saw you had a Lee Child post.
I just finished his latest with his brother and it is really mediocre. Doesn't have any of the punch of his earlier books. Reacher ks now a killing machine instead of a man of Justice. Multiple unrelated events eventually come together in a completely unrealistic way. This story doesn't relate at all to his military background. Pretty disappointing.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 11:02 AM (kpS4V)
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He seemed to be universally considered by his contemporaries to be of a gentle and thoughtful temperament and highly moral, and a terrific horseman. He loved animals and hated cruelty toward them.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 10:58 AM (kpS4V)
I’ve thought a highly significant quote from Grant was when he said that he much preferred the company of horses and dogs to that of men.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 11:02 AM (k5cxK)
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So I finished Barnaby Rudge. I'm not terribly happy with how Barnaby managed to do a karma Houdini and avoid being hanged. The guy wasn't just guilty of rioting, he was in the forefront, knocking people off horses. Yes, he was a retard but why he gets pardoned when children were hung really irritated me. The other happy ending stuff is classic Dickens and that doesn't bother me. But Barnaby and his dumb ass mother's fate irritated me.
I'm back to Glen Cook's Black Company next and....Man...Glen Cook is my kind of writer.
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This week I finished the biography of Louis Armstrong and started The Satanic Verses. I’m only on Chapter 2 of The Satanic Verses but it looks like it will be a fantastic read.
Posted by: Who Knew at December 14, 2025 11:04 AM (TdNm+)
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He seemed to be universally considered by his contemporaries to be of a gentle and thoughtful temperament and highly moral……
One of the reasons crooked , devious men in his administration were able to take advantage of him.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:04 AM (KDPiq)
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If you want a docile cat, get a Ragdoll. We've had one for about 10 years, and about the only time she moves is when the food dish gets refilled. I much prefer a laid-back cat who tolerates being handled over the spastic, randomly scratchy and bitey variety.
Posted by: PabloD at December 14, 2025 11:04 AM (Epuwl)
134Stopping by briefly as I am consumed by the news of the day but saw you had a Lee Child post.
I just finished his latest with his brother and it is really mediocre. Doesn't have any of the punch of his earlier books. Reacher ks now a killing machine instead of a man of Justice. Multiple unrelated events eventually come together in a completely unrealistic way. This story doesn't relate at all to his military background. Pretty disappointing.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 14, 2025
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I've been avoiding the ones with "Andrew Child" on the cover, having seen similar remarks here and elsewhere about his productions not being as good.
The early Reacher stories are quite good. He's at his best when he's in a small town or outlying area rather than in NYC or Washington, DC. It seems he has more freedom of action.
The other problem I have with any of the Reachers, once I think about it, is that he has very little difficulty defeating hsi enemies. He rarely seems to get wounded or damaged in any way, though there are exceptions.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 11:05 AM (wzUl9)
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I've also been reading The Lord's Prayer by Thomas Watson, a 17th century author. I'm rather put off by two things. First, he big on predestination and the prayer is for the Elect, not you also rans. Second, there's a lot of Catholic (Papist) bashing.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 11:05 AM (L/fGl)
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Still have a number of signed books. Fortunately my daughter is interested in the sf/horror titles, so she can inherit those (Ellison, Etchison, Grant, Ramsey Campbell, Silverberg, etc). There are a couple of Isaac Bashevis Singers here and a couple of Don Robertsons and an Irwin Shaw that I'll need to find homes for at some point, but I've still got a few years left to worry about that.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 14, 2025 11:07 AM (q3u5l)
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The Lee Child video is misleading. Having run a critique group for almost a decade, no...not everyone can write. Oh no, no, no.
But you do not need a degree. You just need to read a lot of the genre you want to write and then you need to be willing to do the work....and you need the introspection to know if your work is up to the mark in quality.
Also I have 19 bookcases and would kill to have the kind of flashing libraries seen above. I just never had the time and money to hire carpenters to install floor to ceiling bookcases, so I just grab Ikea cases whenever someone has a garage sale. Still....19 is a pretty good number of full bookcases.
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35 I've also been reading The Lord's Prayer by Thomas Watson, a 17th century author. I'm rather put off by two things. First, he big on predestination and the prayer is for the Elect, not you also rans. Second, there's a lot of Catholic (Papist) bashing.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 11:05 AM (L/fGl)
There were a couple of centuries where Protestants and Catholics were at war. More political than religious.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:08 AM (KDPiq)
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122 I want to finish Blucher Scourge of Napoleon today as I want to reread The First Russian Revolution the Decembrest Revolt of 1825 because the 200th anniversary is Dec 14 ( old style calendar 12 days behind so actually happened Dec 26 1825
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 10:58 AM (Ia/+0)
Blucher.
*neigh*
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 14, 2025 11:08 AM (g8Ew8)
140 If you want a docile cat, get a Ragdoll. We've had one for about 10 years, and about the only time she moves is when the food dish gets refilled. I much prefer a laid-back cat who tolerates being handled over the spastic, randomly scratchy and bitey variety.
Posted by: PabloD at December 14, 2025
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I love the way they look and the placid, "goes limp when picked up" reputation. I'm sure purebred kittens are not cheap, though.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 11:08 AM (wzUl9)
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A couple of weeks ago CBD (bless him) used a painting by Luis Melendez on the art thread. I hadn't heard of him before. Melendez was an 18th century Spanish still life painter. I was so impressed I ordered a used copy of his works published by the National Gallery during an American tour of his works. The book is a bit oversized to allow better photographs of the paintings. Melendez's painting are so good they are almost phot-realistic. The detail, color and composition are wonderful. I can spend an hour looking at just one painting, partly in appreciation of his talent and partly trying to figure out how he achieved the work.
I have several art books put out by galleries and museums on different artists and schools of painting. They are always worth it. Archival quality printing, tons of detail about the works, and excellent photos of the paintings. I treasure them.
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 11:10 AM (yTvNw)
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In the American patent system Tesla is credited with being the inventor of the radio rather than Marconi.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:10 AM (KDPiq)
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Can't seem to focus on one book this week; I'm all over the place.
- Grant biography
-"The Madman's Daughter", a retelling of "The Island of Dr. Moreau", and its follow-on, "Her Dark Curiosity", in which one of the bad doctor's creations comes back to London and is the basis for Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde;
- "Alien: Isolation"
- "Cat Tales"
- "The Mammoth Book of Steampunk Stories"
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 11:11 AM (kpS4V)
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Eris, if you didn't get my gift (Amazon says it was delivered). please ask the Perfesser or CBD for my e-mail.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 11:12 AM (ufSfZ)
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Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 11:11 AM (kpS4V)
I can’t do that with fiction but I can have a number of non-fiction books going on at the same time.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:12 AM (KDPiq)
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If I didn't love my cats to much, I would have traded them to Gypsies in exchange for magic beans a long time ago. They do nothing around my house except eat my food, spit it back up, and shed their fur. Yet I wouldn't trade that for the world because they also bring me so much joy.
But now, after yesterday's incident, my cats are now helping Stradivarius string some violins.
Posted by: Fake Perfesser at December 14, 2025 11:13 AM (uQesX)
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But now, after yesterday's incident, my cats are now helping Stradivarius string some violins.
Posted by: Fake Perfesser at December 14, 2025 11:13 AM (uQesX)
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You're a lot closer to the mark than you suspect!
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I have to say my cats pften earn their keep by spotting and killing vermin. Stirling saved me from at least two wasps during his kittenhood, and both he and Dagny are on the assassin squad when a roach or a gecko gets into the apartment.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 11:15 AM (wzUl9)
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In the American patent system Tesla is credited with being the inventor of the radio rather than Marconi.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:10 AM (KDPiq)
But the Italian radios gained in standing because the Teslas kept catching fire.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 14, 2025 11:15 AM (g8Ew8)
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Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 11:11 AM (kpS4V)
I can’t do that with fiction but I can have a number of non-fiction books going on at the same time.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:12 AM (KDPiq)
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Yeah, I'm dual-reading a couple of books right now courtesy of Reading Roulette.
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But the Italian radios gained in standing because the Teslas kept catching fire.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 14, 2025 11:15 AM (g8Ew
Heh
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:16 AM (KDPiq)
152both he and Dagny are on the assassin squad when a roach or a gecko gets into the apartment.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 11:15 AM (wzUl9)
Hope you like your insurance rates jacked sky-high, asshole!
Posted by: The Geico Gecko at December 14, 2025 11:16 AM (ufSfZ)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 14, 2025 11:18 AM (bXbFr)
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Perfessor, what happened with your cats yesterday?
Posted by: Wenda at December 14, 2025 11:18 AM (A65Zh)
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I have several editions of LOTR. The hardcover three volume boxed set I bought in the mid 60s (which is showing the wear of the decades of use). That was the first hardcover book I bought for myself. I have a fancy one volume version and a flex cover edition that is my 'reading' copy. Also, a Kindle version. I've gone through a couple of paperback editions but they never last.
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 11:18 AM (yTvNw)
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Perfessor, what happened with your cats yesterday?
Posted by: Wenda at December 14, 2025 11:18 AM (A65Zh)
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I kept finding messes they left for me. I stepped in one of them. Not fun when wearing socks.
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The whole raiders deal with belloq was an outing of the ahneberbe
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 14, 2025 11:20 AM (bXbFr)
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Lot of Jew hating former Marxists in the Nazis. Goebbels was one of them.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 10:44 AM (KDPiq)
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And former Jew-lovers turned Jew-haters. I understand Magda Goebbels almost married a Jewish man and contemplated moving to Palestine with him. Joseph G. tried to have him assassinated to clean up Magda's dating history. I'm fuzzy on the details so dont quote me.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 11:20 AM (kpS4V)
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A few days ago my daughter and I were discussing the way you can have a brilliant idea in the middle of the night and can't remember it in the morning. Where does it go?
So we began imagining a poor little idea flitting from person to person, trying to find the right one. Silly fun.
Posted by: Wenda at December 14, 2025 11:21 AM (A65Zh)
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We got our Ragdoll from a shelter, so she was pretty cheap! I think the prior owner or a family member turned out to be allergic. They're kinda dumb, and more inbred than the British royal family, but they're sweet. Just be prepared for tumbleweeds of fur.
Posted by: PabloD at December 14, 2025 11:24 AM (Epuwl)
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Our cat decided some time ago that the litter box is a fine place for the initial part of business, but the finish belongs on a bathroom rug or in an almost inaccessible corner of the floor behind my desk. The bathroom door we can close, but my 76-yr-old carcass is having a hard time getting at that corner these days.
I've threatened to punt the cat to the Lesser Magellanic Cloud, but she doesn't believe me, and insists on parking her fuzzy carcass on my lap to mock me.
Goofy-assed animal...
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 14, 2025 11:26 AM (q3u5l)
162I understand Magda Goebbels almost married a Jewish man and contemplated moving to Palestine with him. Joseph G. tried to have him assassinated to clean up Magda's dating history. I'm fuzzy on the details so dont quote me.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 11:20 AM (kpS4V)
That's a new one on me. I know she was married previous to Goebbels and had at least two affairs (one with a younger man never identified beyond the alias "Ernest" and another with Herbert Hoover's nephew), but didn't know about the Jewish affair.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 11:27 AM (ufSfZ)
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I downloaded a few divergent tomes yesterday, “A long strange trip” by Dennis McNally, about the Grateful Dead, and George Patton’s autobiography, and another - Target: Patton - that posits George was murdered, an opening salvo in the open “Cold War” as it were. I’m a little skeptical about the latter, but ole Blood & Guts probably had a few enemies amongst the usual suspects and in any case certainly were not sorry to see him shuffle off this mortal coil. I think both McArthur and Patton would have been good alternatives for the utter chaos that followed in the 1950s and 1960s.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 11:27 AM (m+uh6)
164We got our Ragdoll from a shelter, so she was pretty cheap! I think the prior owner or a family member turned out to be allergic. They're kinda dumb, and more inbred than the British royal family, but they're sweet. Just be prepared for tumbleweeds of fur.
Posted by: PabloD at December 14, 2025
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I've rarely seen a longhair in a shelter here. Though Arizona the part-Coon came from the SPCA, and I did see a beautiful silver tabby Coon-like fellow named "Rembrandt" there a few years ago. But longhairs are thin on the ground here. It was why I widened my search, and discovered Stirling (medium-hair) in Vicksburg, four hours' drive away.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 11:27 AM (wzUl9)
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143 Can't seem to focus on one book this week; I'm all over the place.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes
Same.
The Autobiography of Malcolm X
Final Voyage, about 17th & 18th century whaling (Peter Nichols)
The Hero of Ages (third in the Mistoborn trilogy by Sanders)
A Coffin for Dimitrios (Eric Ambler)
Weird Cookies (Robert Griffith)
ABC News
@ABC
A new study from researcher in the U.K. suggests that polar bears are undergoing rapid genetic changes, and scientists believe it's due to the impacts of climate change.
https://is.gd/2yr5M6
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 11:30 AM (L/fGl)
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Eris, I just sent you an email, using the two addresses I have for you. Let me know if you get either one.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 11:32 AM (ufSfZ)
168 There's always the possibility that you have more than one copy because you just forgot you'd already bought the first. Of course, this is a far-fetched scenario.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2025 11:32 AM (tgvbd)
169 "ABC News."
Ok, I think I've found your problem.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 14, 2025 11:33 AM (2Ez/1)
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People seem to be fascinated by the link between the Nazis and the occult.
Suggested edit:
People seem to be fascinated by the link between our current leaders and the occult and perverted practices.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 14, 2025 11:33 AM (uQesX)
ABC News
@ABC
A new study from researcher in the U.K. suggests that polar bears are undergoing rapid genetic changes, and scientists believe it's due to the impacts of climate change.
https://is.gd/2yr5M6
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 11:30 AM (L/fGl)
Rapid genetic changes? Evolution at ludicrous speed. The Left always makes ‘science’ fit their current positions.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:34 AM (KDPiq)
172 Or you can have one copy for the library and one for the bathroom.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2025 11:34 AM (tgvbd)
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Polar Bears will be competing with Jaguars for food soon
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 11:35 AM (Ia/+0)
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Wolfus, my biggest problem with this new Reacher is that it takes away everything that I liked about the character. In the early books, he is all about honor. He is former military police. His job was to keep soldiers from dishonoring the uniform. He beat up the bad guys but didn't kill them. He used his investigative training to solve the mystery, it via brute force. Everything in these later books just make me dislike him. The honorable Reacher is replaced by a vigilante.
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The problem is that I just don't have the energy or will to write (which is why I am an amateur and hack and not a pro).
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 10:26 AM (ufSfZ)
Horse hockey. One sale qualifies you. You're a pro.
Meaning professional, maybe not pro-lific, but a professional author nonetheless. Amateur/hack is for those of us who've never been published.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 14, 2025 11:36 AM (uQesX)
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So if you follow the logic of cause and effect, every mammal should be undergoing rapid genetic changes.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:36 AM (KDPiq)
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Aside from LOTR, when I have multiple copies of the same book it usually involves different translations (think Canterbury Tales or the Iliad and Odyssey). Another reason would be copies of children classics with different illustrators. Wind in the Willows and Winnie the Pooh come to mind.
Since I now am willing to highlight and annotate books I'm reading I might have a 'mark up' copy to keep a better edition pristine. I have a couple of collections of poetry by Coleridge, Wordsworth and Tennyson like that.
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 11:36 AM (yTvNw)
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The right wing has always hates Jews
Globalists? Who remembers that word?
80%of American Jews vote Dem
Muslims are conservatives ant abortion anti gays anti big government super religious pro fossil fuels
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 14, 2025 11:36 AM (wOztc)
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A few days ago my daughter and I were discussing the way you can have a brilliant idea in the middle of the night and can't remember it in the morning. Where does it go?
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Music is the same way, similar to dreams. I suppose people who have been formally trained in notation can write the notes down.
You can get to a nice place playing guitar when practicing for long periods, but if you don’t record it somehow, it’s gone. I can’t explain it but have heard it a few times myself. In one of his guitar lessons online, discussing this kind of thing Jorma Kaukonnen sort of shook his head and “you better write it down, because you will not remember it”.
Keith Richards recorded the iconic “Satisfaction” guitar riff on a portable Phillips cassette player at a hotel in the middle of the night, by morning he’d completely forgotten all about it. “What’s this?” as most of the tape was him snoring.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 11:37 AM (eQfh1)
181 The Intifada was globalized in Australia yesterday.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2025 11:37 AM (tgvbd)
[A]uthorities have labeled the person detained as a “person of interest” and they are not looking for anyone else in connection with the shooting [at Brown University]. They have not yet at this time labeled him a “suspect.”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 11:38 AM (L/fGl)
183Wolfus, my biggest problem with this new Reacher is that it takes away everything that I liked about the character. In the early books, he is all about honor. He is former military police. His job was to keep soldiers from dishonoring the uniform. He beat up the bad guys but didn't kill them. He used his investigative training to solve the mystery, it via brute force. Everything in these later books just make me dislike him. The honorable Reacher is replaced by a vigilante.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 14, 2025
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Sharon, quite true. I started with the first book, The Killing Floor, and tried for a long while to read them in order. In the earliest ones, JR *notices* things and reasons from them, then acts on those conclusions. Not so much in later novels.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 11:38 AM (wzUl9)
184
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 11:37 AM (eQfh1)
Yes I was going to comment a lot of song writers keep a notebook or recorder next to their bed to save those ideas that come in the middle of the night.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:39 AM (KDPiq)
185 [A]uthorities have labeled the person detained as a “person of interest” and they are not looking for anyone else in connection with the shooting [at Brown University]. They have not yet at this time labeled him a “suspect.”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 11:38 AM (L/fGl)
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If what I think is the case, this story will vanish by Tuesday.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2025 11:39 AM (tgvbd)
186
A new study from researcher in the U.K. suggests that polar bears are undergoing rapid genetic changes, and scientists believe it's due to the impacts of climate change.“
The real point was that polar bears aren’t dying out at all, as the enviros have long claimed, they’re just adapting.
Wow you mean species can adapt and change due to environmental stimuli, and even become new species? Someone should write a book about that!
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 11:39 AM (k5cxK)
In Traveler of Worlds: Conversations with Robert Silverberg, there's a chapter where he talks about libraries, public/college and his own. Silverberg had a huge personal library and would often wind up having multiple copies of some titles, intentionally or not.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 14, 2025 11:40 AM (q3u5l)
188[A]uthorities have labeled the person detained as a “person of interest” and they are not looking for anyone else in connection with the shooting [at Brown University]. They have not yet at this time labeled him a “suspect.”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 14, 2025 11:38 AM (L/fGl)
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If what I think is the case, this story will vanish by Tuesday.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2025 11:39 AM (tgvbd)
Agreed.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 11:40 AM (ufSfZ)
On shelves, duh.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 14, 2025 10:35 AM (Kt19C)
I've noticed in that vid that all the book workers were women, except for the shelf restorer. Are men not interested in that, or has it also become a province for women exclusively?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 14, 2025 11:40 AM (uQesX)
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OK, folks, I really do need to get some writing done, even if it's only a page. I need to feel I have accomplished something!
Hope you all have a lovely day.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 11:41 AM (ufSfZ)
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Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 11:39 AM (k5cxK)
So is the Arctic Fox also undergoing rapid genetic changes?
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:41 AM (KDPiq)
192
The polar bear and the Arctic fox will eventually evolve to winged species so that they can migrate from one pole to the other as needed. Global warming will move "eventually" to the year 2032, as it speeds up because the west refuses to eliminate all energy not generated by Eddie Robinson's Soylent Green bicycle.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 14, 2025 11:45 AM (q3u5l)
193
It's actually been less because a) lot of time spent here and b) not reading in the evenings as much because sleep happens quickly.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 14, 2025 10:45 AM (NcvvS)
Yeah, either start the ONT and zonk out, or never even get to it because my eyes are closed.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 14, 2025 11:45 AM (uQesX)
194
People seem to be fascinated by the link between the Nazis and the occult.
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That’s one of the weirder aspects that becomes apparent of the OSS/CIA in the postwar era. They picked up where all those whack jobs left off in Germany.
Seances, and trying to summon demons, remote viewing, your tax dollars at work. One hypothesis is they use these practices to form cutout organizations & cults and this was largely explained by the serious wackiness in California - the Esalen institute, Process Church, an offshoot of Scientology. Jim Jones was a huge mover and shaker in California politics and speculation he was “handled” or had some nexus with the spooks.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 11:45 AM (eQfh1)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 11:46 AM (Ia/+0)
196
Jefferson gave away his DVDs to make room for more bookshelves; figured he could stream the movies any time.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 14, 2025 11:48 AM (q3u5l)
197
Where is Thomas Jefferson's DVD collection?
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 11:46 AM (Ia/+0)
Threw them away because no one had invented the DVD player yet.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:49 AM (KDPiq)
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195 Where is Thomas Jefferson's DVD collection?
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 11:46 AM
Right next to his VCR flashing "12:00."
Posted by: Docent from Monticello at December 14, 2025 11:49 AM (2Ez/1)
199
But, alas, if you consider the bolsheviks to be bad, you're probably not allowed to be a mainstream writer...
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 14, 2025 10:56 AM (Lhaco)
Crap. Burns Richard Allen stories.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 14, 2025 11:51 AM (uQesX)
200
I think it was Himmler and the SS who were the occult driver in the Nazi party .
Posted by: the way I see it at December 14, 2025 11:52 AM (KDPiq)
201
23 ... "The other nonfiction on my TBR pile is C.S. Lewis: A Life by one Alister McGrath. I know more about Lewis's works than I do about his life, and I don't know his works that well. Time to rectify that."
Wolfus,
I enjoyed that McGrath biography of Lewis. When I want to know more about an author I admire I look for collections of their correspondence. Personal letters are often as revealing as a formal biography. I have collections for Lewis, Tolkien, E.B. White, and a few others.
If you enjoy books by Louis L'Amour, his "Education of a Wandering Man: A Memoir" gives a lot of background on his writing style and topics as well as his reading habits.
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 11:53 AM (yTvNw)
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Where is Thomas Jefferson's DVD collection?
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 11:46 AM (Ia/+0)
Silly, the DVD hadn't been invented yet. His movie collection was all on Laser Disc.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 14, 2025 11:55 AM (0vB2I)
203
The Intifada was globalized in Australia yesterday.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2025 11:37 AM (tgvbd)
Yes. Exactly correct, and that phrase should be shoved down the throat of anyone in our country who utters it...starting with Mamdani.
204
Germans are prolific note-takers and documentarians. The Allies scooped everything up they could on the march across Europe, as did the Soviets. There was no thought of intellectual property or patents or copyright as was the case during the 1st world war.
One thing that became controversial was using pows and concentration camp victims as guinea pigs for cold weather and high altitude survival for pilots. I’ve read one of the not too surprising things they discovered was a life vest should be bouyant enough to keep the neck above water, things like that. The US Air Force had one of their medical centers named after the chief medical researcher involved in this sort of thing. How long does it take for someone to freeze to death in icy water? Well let’s find out!
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 11:59 AM (+oHAL)
205
I am reading the Skaith series by Leigh Bracket, I have finished The Ginger Star and I am working on the Hounds of Skaith Eric John Stark is in search of his foster father, Simon Ashton, who had disappeared on the newly discovered planet, Skaith. Skaith is a dying world circling a dimming sun who's masters, the Lords Protector, from their Citadel in the frozen north control the Wandsmen and their Farer mobs, who extract tribute from all the peoples from the icy ruins in north and drying oases in the endless deserts, to the jungled, decadent cities of the equator. Ashton had come to arrange exodus for the groups who were squeezed between the encroaching cold, the Wandsmen's tribute, and the various children of Skaith who had lost their humanity under the lash of cold, hunger and the despair under the dimming of the old sun. Stark came to rescue him in the face of the Wandsmen and prophecy naming Stark as the Dark Man.
If Brackett had written this in the 40's it would be a pastiche of Burrough's Mars books with a touch of Tarzan, as it was published in the 70's it is presented more as a Tolkien tribute, and would be a D&D campaign if it were published in the 80's.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 12:01 PM (rbvCR)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 12:01 PM (Ia/+0)
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Well, off to fail at accomplishing anything useful here at Casa Some Guy.
Perfessor, thanks for the thread.
Have a good one, gang.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 14, 2025 12:02 PM (q3u5l)
208
Target: Patton - that posits George was murdered, an opening salvo in the open “Cold War” as it were. I’m a little skeptical about the latter, but ole Blood & Guts probably had a few enemies amongst the usual suspects and in any case certainly were not sorry to see him shuffle off this mortal coil.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 11:27 AM (m+uh6)
Mark Felton covered this possibility. I wouldn't be surprised if it was true considering Patton wanted to continue straight to Moscow. Too many Red symps infesting western governments already wouldn't have allowed it.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 14, 2025 12:04 PM (uQesX)
209
Or you can have one copy for the library and one for the bathroom.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 14, 2025 11:34 AM (tgvbd)
But you repeat yourself.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 14, 2025 12:06 PM (uQesX)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 12:08 PM (kpS4V)
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41 ... "I prefer Bakshi's flawed fragment because at least I don't have to watch elves shield-surfing their way through Helm's Deep."
I never had a problem with the 'playful' moments, like the shield-surfing or Legolas taking out the Mumakil, in the LOTR movies. They were like grace notes without detracting from the action. There are moments of playful humor in the books as well.
My biggest problem with the movies is when they veer away from a character's essential personality. Aragorn was never a reluctant heir to the throne. He could have moments of doubt about his abilities to succeed but the right was never in question. Tolkien described him as determined not reluctant.
Posted by: JTB at December 14, 2025 12:09 PM (yTvNw)
212
Thanks for another fine thread, Perf!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 12:08 PM (kpS4V)
Gee, I was hoping we'd get an extra hour.
(deletes all unused book thread comments)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 14, 2025 12:13 PM (uQesX)
213I think people are fascinated by Nazis and the occult because...what if it worked?!
NONSTOP PERVITIN-BUZZED SAXON SEX! in Wewelsburg ushering in the old gods.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 10:42 AM (kpS4V)
a son of a Luftwaffe pilot told me once that Pervetin use was so widespread that they started pulling back the issue of it because troops were killing themselves from drug-impaired optimism. He also said his dad had trouble getting clean of it after the end of the war.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 12:17 PM (rbvCR)
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Enjoyed the Jefferson video Perfessor.
Maybe his movie collection was Beta?
I'll throw out a late comment on the Founders theme.
George Washington: A Life in Books by Kevin Hayes.
Recommended on this topic. GW had minimal 'formal' education, but was a life long learner. Book discusses those works specifically which are know to have been read & owned by him. (And as could be expected, he was gifted with a large quantity of books late in life)
Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at December 14, 2025 12:18 PM (KaHlS)
215
Polar Bears will be competing with Jaguars for food soon
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 11:35 AM (Ia/+0)
Jaguar is basically extinct.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 12:23 PM (npFr7)
216
As to WHY write: RAH said it best (as always):
“The acme of prose style is exemplified by that simple, graceful clause: "Pay to the order of. . . ."'"
-Robert A. Heinlein
Posted by: TANSTAAFL at December 14, 2025 12:28 PM (YpNh1)
217
Sorry I missed the thread - was shoveling snow
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 14, 2025 01:26 PM (dE3DB)
218
Maybe this has been mentioned before, but just wanted to give a shout out to British You-tuber Tom Ayling. He's a relatively new book dealer in London whose channel displays some of the most beautiful rare and precious books I've ever seen, with particular emphasis on Tolkien.
If you enjoy books as objects of art and history it is really captivating stuff.
Posted by: Gem at December 14, 2025 01:52 PM (e85zz)
"Are the Clovis tools Asian in origin? Drawing from original archaeological analysis, paleoclimatic research, and genetic studies, noted archaeologists Dennis J. Stanford and Bruce A. Bradley challenge the old narrative. They counter traditional -- and often subjective -- approaches to archaeological testing for historical relatedness by applying rigorous scholarship."
"Circling the Sun tells the story of Beryl Markham. It is a fictionalized biographical novel."
Fun read.
Who cares if it's historical fiction. Official biographies are often fictitious. One saddo reviewer called it "chick-lit," which is mean-girl speak from a wannabe writer.
Beryl stumbled through life in colonial Kenya, but did so with verve.
Posted by: 13times at December 14, 2025 04:37 PM (fnZRl)
Rampant Antisemitism In Australia Leads To Predictable Result
This is a direct result of unfettered immigration of 7th century savages who want to burn the world down, starting with the Jews.
France and Britain are just as savage in their Jew-hate, and their leaders have spouted the predicable pablum that virtue signals their "feelings."
'Horrified, not shocked': Australian Jews blame Bondi attack on ongoing 'incitement'
“This is what the current government has allowed to come into our country and go unchecked,” Tali Shine, an Australian newscaster, told The Times of Israel following the attack. “When nothing was done about the radicalized protests outside the Opera House [shortly after October 7], it set the tone [for continued attacks on the Jewish community].”
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at December 14, 2025 08:55 AM (kOluj)
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Expect the authorities in Australia to crack down even harder on online comments after this.
I know a lot on the right are still protective of the British monarchy as it's traditionalist and a bulwark against Jacobin ideals and believe it's just a figurehead anyway, but it's really interesting to me that the Anglosphere nations that have the most severe crackdowns on speech while allowing their societies to be perforated by Islamism are the UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, all of whom have that dork on their currency.
I'd say we give Prince Billy a choice -- depose your father and kick him out of the country, or when the monarchy is inevitably disposed, he and his little princes and princess can join Charles in the gibbets.
Every son needs to be ready to depose his father. I had to to save my family.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 14, 2025 08:57 AM (qwx/I)
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Also a shooting at Brown University in RI. Two killed and over 20 injured, according to early reports. University DEI prexy and local PD chief held a press conference, where we learned:
- suspect not in custody.
- no info on sex (presumed male) or ethnicity.
- over 400 cameras on campus and none of them either working or caught a glimpse of said gunman.
Brown is a gun-free university.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 08:57 AM (ufSfZ)
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Is it just me, or is there a high correlation between countries with the most severe Covid lockdowns now having the worst infestation of violent muzzies (but I repeat myself)?
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at December 14, 2025 08:57 AM (kOluj)
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Dreadful excuse for a "religion of peace" And yes, Britain is much to be despised for their kid glove handling of violent migrants. Community service for rape of a child? Time to end NATO.
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 08:58 AM (/YboP)
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Guy who disarmed shooter has an Arabic souring name:
https://tinyurl.com/wzywr2c2
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2025 08:58 AM (PFs9e)
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Impossible. Australia got rid of all of their assault weapons decades ago. That's why they don't have mass shootings like this one. /s
Posted by: Semper Why at December 14, 2025 09:00 AM (nKug+)
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4 Is it just me, or is there a high correlation between countries with the most severe Covid lockdowns now having the worst infestation of violent muzzies (but I repeat myself)?
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at December 14, 2025 08:57 AM (kOluj)
Not you, these lockdowns, like migration are integral parts of the globalist "reset". If we had any sense we'd be more worried about Brussels and Davos than Moscow.
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 09:00 AM (/YboP)
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'This is a direct result of unfettered immigration of 7th century savages who want to burn the world down, starting with the Jews.'
They really don't belong anywhere outside muslim territory, do they?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 14, 2025 09:02 AM (fd80v)
10This is a direct result of unfettered immigration of 7th century savages who want to burn the world down, starting with the Jews.
I've said it before and I'll say it again - Islam needs to be proscribed and every mosque and madrassa in this country - if not burned to the ground - need to be permanently shuttered. The Constitution provides for the free exercise of religion, but does not insist that the country absorb, promote or welcome any ideology whose tenets are in absolute opposition to the Judeo-Christian ideals that attended the founding of America. As well, any 'religion' which teaches that it is not only permissible, but praiseworthy to lie in order to conceal one's true goals is not a religion, but a pagan cult.
My only hesitation with making Islam illegal is that the left would storm the gates of heaven to make Christianity illegal if and when they ever return to power.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 09:02 AM (ufSfZ)
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They really don't belong anywhere outside muslim territory, do they?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 14, 2025 09:02 AM (fd80v)
NO, they don't and no more student visas either.
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 09:03 AM (/YboP)
12
I like the unarmed Australian man who took away the gun from one of them.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 14, 2025 09:03 AM (0U5gm)
13
not verified, I don't think, and oddly worded, but:
Australian media confirm that 43-year-old Ahmed al Ahmed was the heroic man who tackled one of the Bondi Beach shooters, risking his life.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 08:57 AM (RuTUS)
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Mrs. F. confirms, he is a shopkeeper in Bondi.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 09:04 AM (9ipOP)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 14, 2025 09:04 AM (fd80v)
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Big Fat Meanie, your explanation is better thought-out & supported than mine. But, in either case, a stark reminder as to why a citizenry should NEVER give up it's right to bear arms.
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at December 14, 2025 09:04 AM (kOluj)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2025 09:04 AM (PFs9e)
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Is it just me, or is there a high correlation between countries with the most severe Covid lockdowns now having the worst infestation of violent muzzies (but I repeat myself)?
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at December 14, 2025 08:57 AM (kOluj)
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Sweden did not lockdown.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 09:05 AM (9ipOP)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 09:06 AM (Ia/+0)
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My only hesitation with making Islam illegal is that the left would storm the gates of heaven to make Christianity illegal if and when they ever return to power.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 09:02 AM (ufSfZ)
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They're gonna do that anyway.
24
I saw 2 gunmen at the Legalinsurrection.com video which is well worth watching.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 09:07 AM (Ia/+0)
25
Is it just me, or is there a high correlation between countries with the most severe Covid lockdowns now having the worst infestation of violent muzzies (but I repeat myself)?
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher
The interesting thing I see is that the western countries have been doing two things for many years.
1. Trying to emasculate men, decrying toxic masculinity, telling women they are girl bosses who do not need men, etc.
2. Importing as fast as they can military age men from third world countries who believe that women are property, and nothing more than sexual objects.
I think the plan is clear.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 14, 2025 09:07 AM (0U5gm)
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But wait: Australia has strict gun control laws, right? Right???
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 14, 2025 09:08 AM (rQwsY)
Brave Aussie man attacks armed terrorist at Holocaust attack, disarms him. Hero:
X video: https://bit.ly/4pAA0e2
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 09:08 AM (P5BPp)
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eh, not horrified, not shocked ... this is life during wartime.
make no mistake, this is a war; one side knows it, other is just barely figuring it out now that it's almost lost.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 14, 2025 09:09 AM (Cjt/F)
29
British history is our history and should be cherished. GB or UK or whatever is nothing of its former self and is not our concern in any responsibility to manner.
Posted by: From about That Time at December 14, 2025 09:09 AM (sl73Y)
30
I got my bile vented on the Pixy thread but this bears repeating:
Anthony Albanese, you are guilty because you were warned and did nothing. You too Palestine Penny, blood on your hands!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 09:09 AM (9ipOP)
A full video of the horrific terror attack by Islam today in Australia.
Islam cannot coexist with us in the West.
It's a death cult!
X video: https://bit.ly/4iRLreQ
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 09:09 AM (P5BPp)
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2. Importing as fast as they can military age men from third world countries who believe that women are property, and nothing more than sexual objects.
I think the plan is clear.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 14, 2025 09:07 AM (0U5gm)
So illegal immigration is totes OK so long as no military aged men come over?
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 14, 2025 09:09 AM (rQwsY)
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Anyone else watching full video thing #2 gunman switched to a shotgun before he was hit but not disabled?
Noticed lots of smoke from barrel .
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 09:09 AM (Ia/+0)
34
@25 -- exactly. Importing new populations was done in ancient and classical history, which, conveniently, isn't taught much anymore.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 14, 2025 09:10 AM (qwx/I)
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They really don't belong anywhere,do they?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 14, 2025 09:02 AM (fd80v)
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FIFY
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at December 14, 2025 09:10 AM (kOluj)
36
You know no book thread as well as this one is going to upset lots of people
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 09:10 AM (Ia/+0)
37
They're gonna do that anyway.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 14, 2025 09:06 AM (ESVrU)
As they are trying in Canada and Britain. These countries should not be mistaken for allies.
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 09:11 AM (/YboP)
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36 You know no book thread as well as this one is going to upset lots of people
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 09:10 AM (Ia/+0)
[Book Thread will be posted at 9:30AM]
CBD
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 09:12 AM (RuTUS)
39
One good Arab doesn't change things Fen.
It's not nationality, it's the culture of Islam.
Posted by: From about That Time at December 14, 2025 09:12 AM (sl73Y)
40They're gonna do that anyway.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 14, 2025 09:06 AM (ESVrU)
True, but applying it to Islam specifically opens the door to legally-targeted persecution and is not a precedent I want to embrace. Something needs to be done, but no-one in the corridors of power has the moral strength not only to do it, but fight the traitors who would rise up to obstruct it and withstand the screams of MFM protest.
The world needs a Tenth Crusade, but there is not a single Christian leader who would ever call for it.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 09:13 AM (ufSfZ)
41
The muzzies in Australia had to be planning this for a while . First day of Hanukkah and at an announced celebration. I hate to say this but I think this may be the first of many more violent incidents in "globalize the Intifada". There have been smaller attacks on Jews on Europe and the US since 10/7 but this could be the beginning of an escalation. Everyone non Muslim keep your head on a swivel
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 14, 2025 09:13 AM (D+mpw)
42 So illegal immigration is totes OK so long as no military aged men come over?
Posted by: Cow Demon
I think you missed the point.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 14, 2025 09:14 AM (0U5gm)
43
Watching what the Australian government does with this will be interesting
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 09:14 AM (Ia/+0)
44
a lot on the right are still protective of the British monarchy"
I sincerely hope you mean "the right in Brit/commonwealth countries"
So illegal immigration is totes OK so long as no military aged men come over?"
Why yes, think of the children!
/WineBoxers
Posted by: man at December 14, 2025 09:15 AM (XuXeR)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 09:15 AM (9ipOP)
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The world needs a Tenth Crusade, but there is not a single Christian leader who would ever call for it.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 09:13 AM (ufSfZ)
certainly not the vile and odious Leo who has a muslim reading roo at the Vatican and says we can live together peacefully. But then he is probably charmed by the pedo tendencies of that group as he has protected pedo priests in peru
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 09:15 AM (/YboP)
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And I specifically mention "leaders." I - and I am unanimous in this (ha!) want Islam eradicated. I am sure there are many, many others like me. But we are private citizens. Our so-called leaders are not us.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 09:15 AM (ufSfZ)
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Posted by: From about That Time at December 14, 2025 09:12 AM (sl73Y)
Just reporting it. No further commentary was intended.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2025 09:15 AM (ix8EF)
Not to go way off topic, but I saw the third Knives Out movie last night and they cast a black female as the small town police chief who appeared in just about every scene wearing a Smokey The Bear state trooper hat. It just seemed so forced, when the traditional actor for that role would be a Carroll O'Connor style white male. But no, have to have a Stronk Woman.
Sorry. I know this isn't a movie thread.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 14, 2025 09:16 AM (2Ez/1)
50
and every mosque and madrassa in this country - if not burned to the ground - need to be permanently shuttered"
Not gonna happen - the old Catholic school on 2920 in Spring, TX is reopening as an "Islamic Center"
Second one in the area (the other is on W. Rayford)...
Posted by: man at December 14, 2025 09:17 AM (XuXeR)
Brown U. is a gun-free zone!
Posted by: Melissa Cuthbertson-Klein from Groton, CT
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IKR?
Posted by: That lady from Brattleboro, Vermont at December 14, 2025 09:20 AM (2Ez/1)
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Put not your faith in Princes
William is no different than chuckle when it comes to the muzzies.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 09:21 AM (sDNVV)
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54 Put not your faith in Princes
William is no different than chuckle when it comes to the muzzies.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 09:21 AM (sDNVV)
Goes to all the WEF conferences and parties
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 09:21 AM (/YboP)
I think you missed the point.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at
Missing , misdirecting the point is cow demons mission here.
Posted by: From about That Time at December 14, 2025 09:22 AM (sl73Y)
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Brown is a gun-free university.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
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Rhode island is pretty much a gun free state.
Australia confiscated "all" the guns a while back.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 14, 2025 09:23 AM (eZ5tL)
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This is the kind of day the news only gets worse and worse.
*dons emotional armor*
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 09:23 AM (9ipOP)
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52 The guy who tackled the attacker was Arab. Does anyone know if he was Muslim?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 14, 2025 09:19 AM (D+mpw)
https://tinyurl.com/bdbpr97r
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 09:23 AM (RuTUS)
65
This is what Labour MP Lola McEvoy said following the terror attack on Bondi Beach.
"We should try to detoxify the way we think of people who aren't like us, because *diversity is our strength*"
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 14, 2025 09:23 AM (0U5gm)
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>>Rhode island is pretty much a gun free state.
Not so much. The range a few minutes from my house is a pretty crowded place. Lots of hunters here too including duck hunting on the bay.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 14, 2025 09:24 AM (viF8m)
67
Prayers for all the victims and the entire Jewish community of Australia.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 14, 2025 09:24 AM (znREB)
68
Watch whole video at Legalinsurrection.com
2 gunman
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 09:25 AM (Ia/+0)
69This is what Labour MP Lola McEvoy said following the terror attack on Bondi Beach.
"We should try to detoxify the way we think of people who aren't like us, because *diversity is our strength*"
It's like they're TRYING to make themselves look ridiculous.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 14, 2025 09:25 AM (Riz8t)
70
" ... gun bans are a farce and a crime against the law abiding ... "
by intent.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 14, 2025 09:25 AM (Cjt/F)
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“Unfettered”? Looks pretty damn fettered to me from out here in the cheap seats
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 09:25 AM (ebWKH)
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This is exactly what the Australian labour party wants to happen.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 14, 2025 09:25 AM (0U5gm)
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This is what Labour MP Lola McEvoy said following the terror attack on Bondi Beach.
"We should try to detoxify the way we think of people who aren't like us, because *diversity is our strength*"
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 14, 2025 09:23 AM (0U5gm)
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She means "globalise the intifada!"
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 09:25 AM (9ipOP)
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My uncivilized reaction to the video of the guy disarming the scumbag was, shoot the motherfucker. Shoot him. Only way to be sure.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at December 14, 2025 09:26 AM (MZ+PY)
75
Does anyone else find deployment of the word 'totes' here sus?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 09:26 AM (0sNs1)
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Report: One of Sidney shooters is a Pakistani. (they should check his online activity...)
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2025 09:26 AM (g47mK)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 14, 2025 09:27 AM (D+mpw)
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61 20 The article says two, but there are two on the bridge, in addition to the one that was disarmed.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 14, 2025 09:23 AM (h7ZuX)
The white-pantsed guy on the bridge is reportedly the one who had previously been disarmed.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 09:27 AM (RuTUS)
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"We should try to detoxify the way we think of people who aren't like us, because *diversity is our strength*"
It's like they're TRYING to make themselves look ridiculous.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 14, 2025 09:25 AM (Riz8t)
They, Australian govt sound just like the WEF governments of Briain, France and Canada. I bet she calls people who don't live by the great reset "racists".
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 09:27 AM (/YboP)
80My uncivilized reaction to the video of the guy disarming the scumbag was, shoot the motherfucker. Shoot him. Only way to be sure.
I was fascinated by his reaction. He switched from "I'm gonna die gunning down everyone for Allah" to "Please don't shoot me" in the space of a few seconds.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 14, 2025 09:27 AM (Riz8t)
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RI senator Sheldon Whitehouse unavailable for comment.
Posted by: Because he's firmly ensconced in his All White beach club at December 14, 2025 09:27 AM (2Ez/1)
82
1st Gunman is down for count, 2nd gets hit, but gets back to surrender
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 09:27 AM (Ia/+0)
83
One can never be sure even wounded guy doesn't have a handgun. Cap.him to be sure he can't respond
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 09:28 AM (Ia/+0)
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My uncivilized reaction to the video of the guy disarming the scumbag was, shoot the motherfucker. Shoot him. Only way to be sure.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at December 14, 2025 09:26 AM (MZ+PY)
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Yes, he's a hero. And a fool.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 09:28 AM (9ipOP)
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74 My uncivilized reaction to the video of the guy disarming the scumbag was, shoot the motherfucker. Shoot him. Only way to be sure.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at December 14, 2025 09:26 AM (MZ+PY)
According to this article, he had no previous experience with guns.
https://tinyurl.com/bdbpr97r
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 09:29 AM (RuTUS)
86
It's like they're TRYING to make themselves look ridiculous."
There is no try....
They all too often are rediculous. And vapid. And quite timid.
That's why Islam is ascendent - it isn't timid. The "west" has become afraid of it's own shadow.
Buy ammo.
Posted by: man at December 14, 2025 09:29 AM (XuXeR)
87
Nice if we could figure out exactly why so many western governments became suicidal within the space of just a few decades.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 14, 2025 09:30 AM (q3u5l)
88My uncivilized reaction to the video of the guy disarming the scumbag was, shoot the motherfucker. Shoot him. Only way to be sure.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at December 14, 2025 09:26 AM (MZ+PY)
According to this article, he had no previous experience with guns.
https://tinyurl.com/bdbpr97r
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 09:29 AM (RuTUS)
Do you have keys? Jam them in the bastard's eyes and blind him. I carry an old-fashioned skeleton key for just such a reason.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 09:31 AM (ufSfZ)
perhaps ... but he's gonna go to work tomorrow morning, instead of get arraigned, so there's that, too
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 14, 2025 09:31 AM (Cjt/F)
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87 Nice if we could figure out exactly why so many western governments became suicidal within the space of just a few decades.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 14, 2025 09:30 AM (q3u5l)
WEF and Obamaphilia
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 09:31 AM (/YboP)
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74 My uncivilized reaction to the video of the guy disarming the scumbag was, shoot the motherfucker. Shoot him. Only way to be sure.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at December 14, 2025 09:26 AM (MZ+PY)
Same! He just leaned the gun up against the tree, and then tried to hide behind the tree. WTF?
I wanted to ask him Who Is This?
She sure is a swell looking dame:
https://is.gd/cQmgXU
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 07:43 AM (kjnCv)
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 09:33 AM (RuTUS)
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Skip. After watching the full video the murderous asshole in black keeps motioning towards the parking lot like he's looking for help. mr white pants who was disarmed and returned to the bridge to shoot additional victims wasn't in the parking lot. Were there more of them?
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 14, 2025 09:34 AM (2NHgQ)
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93 Western governments are definitely not suicidal. If only. It’s much worse that.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 09:32 AM (ebWKH)
Much. Their leaders plan to retain power and to allow the populace to be terrorized in order to achieve totalitarianism. Gates and Obama are frequent visitors at No.10 for a very serious reason.
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 09:35 AM (/YboP)
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Over 800 cameras on Brown U and they have no idea what happened!?!? Very odd///
What are they hiding 🫣 🤔
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93 Western governments are definitely not suicidal. If only. It’s much worse that.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 09:32 AM (ebWKH)
The ethnicity of the killer
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 09:35 AM (/YboP)
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75 Does anyone else find deployment of the word 'totes' here sus?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 09:26 AM (0sNs1)
Oh yeah, sez the rizzler.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 09:36 AM (k5cxK)
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Do you have keys? Jam them in the bastard's eyes and blind him. I carry an old-fashioned skeleton key for just such a reason.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 09:31 AM (ufSfZ)
Hold that gun by the barrel and swing it at the shooter's head, or something.
OK, I know the barrel is probably smoking hot by now, but surely you would at least try to pull the trigger, even if you aren't familiar with guns? Fear does weird things to people, I guess.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 09:36 AM (RuTUS)
103 why so many western governments became suicidal within the space of just a few decades.
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Here is the answer : because the elites are impervious to the effects of invasion, they do not hang out with "common" people, they pocket Qatari money and continue to live the lives of the rich and famous. They do not go to markets, or celebration on a beach where they get shot or mowed down by jihadi attack vehicles.
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2025 09:36 AM (g47mK)
I wanted to ask him Who Is This?
She sure is a swell looking dame:
https://is.gd/cQmgXU
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 07:43 AM (kjnCv)
Which lady? If you mean the first, I think it's Judy Garland.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 09:37 AM (ufSfZ)
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>>Here is the answer : because the elites are impervious to the effects of invasion, they do not hang out with "common" people, they pocket Qatari money and continue to live the lives of the rich and famous. They do not go to markets, or celebration on a beach where they get shot or mowed down by jihadi attack vehicles.
I want to hear more details about the Brown shooting. There are many children of the elite at Brown.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 14, 2025 09:38 AM (viF8m)
108and continue to live the lives of the rich and famous. They do not go to markets, or celebration on a beach where they get shot or mowed down by jihadi attack vehicles.
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2025 09:36 AM
That's not true! We welcomed our transient visitors!
Posted by: Martha's Vineyard at December 14, 2025 09:39 AM (0sNs1)
109And it's after 9:30 now!
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December 14, 2025 09:36 AM
You already donned your pants, didn't you?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 09:39 AM (0sNs1)
110
It's 9:40 a.m. Do you know where your Book Thread is?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 09:40 AM (0sNs1)
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I want to hear more details about the Brown shooting."
It's been 12+ hours. The lack of information is... telling.
Posted by: man at December 14, 2025 09:41 AM (XuXeR)
Posted by: 370H55V I/me/mine at December 14, 2025 09:41 AM (kvDvI)
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"...and continue to live the lives of the rich and famous. They do not go to markets, or celebration on a beach where they get shot or mowed down by jihadi attack vehicles."
+++
But we do send our kids to schools like Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island, so...
Posted by: The Rich And Famous at December 14, 2025 09:42 AM (2Ez/1)
And in one of the this vs that doctrinal debates within Christianity, one side makes following "love your enemies" more understandable and much easier.
Posted by: TeeJ at December 14, 2025 09:42 AM (jMlHD)
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It's been 12+ hours. The lack of information is... telling.
Posted by: man at December 14, 2025 09:41 AM (XuXeR)
Yeah, there are cameras everywhere.
Posted by: dantesed at December 14, 2025 09:42 AM (Oy/m2)
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“I want to hear more details about the Brown shooting. There are many children of the elite at Brown.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 14, 2025 09:38 AM (viF8m)”
So how do you place the odds? Jihadi, tranny, or ghetto rat?
Brown is kind of obscure outside of the privileged class, so I’m betting on one of them with a grudge.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 09:42 AM (k5cxK)
118Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 09:41 AM (kpS4V)
Eris, did you get my gift?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 09:42 AM (ufSfZ)
119
“ I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you.”
Genesis 12:3
Posted by: Marcus T at December 14, 2025 09:42 AM (S/IIZ)
1. Knew the building
2. Knew the study hall room
3. Knew the class there studying
4. Knew the time of the study hall
5. Knew most everyone in the class
And was willing to kill them.
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 14, 2025 09:43 AM (gbOdA)
'Person of interest' detained over Brown University shooting, police say
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 09:43 AM (RuTUS)
122
They are looking at links to Iran, which means they should look at Qatar too, because Qatar is sanctioned Iran's international banker. there was an escalation, string of antisemitic attacks in Australia since 10/7, where they found an Iranian connection. Isn't it time to drop a 500 ton bomb on the Ayatollah ? Make everyone, included the long suffering Persian people happy?
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2025 09:44 AM (g47mK)
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Which lady? If you mean the first, I think it's Judy Garland.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 09:37 AM (ufSfZ)
Looks more like Rita Hayworth
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 09:45 AM (/YboP)
124
It's 9:40 a.m. Do you know where your Book Thread is?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 09:40 AM (0sNs1)
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I don't think we're going to get one.
Police confirmed on Sunday a person had been detained, and an earlier order for people on the Brown campus and surrounding areas to shelter had been lifted.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 09:45 AM (RuTUS)
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But we do send our kids to schools like Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island, so...
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Funny you should say that, since the elite universities are suffering greatly from the scourge of antisemitism/anti-zionism. But somehow trade schools are not affected.
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2025 09:46 AM (g47mK)
After the person was detained on Sunday, police chief Oscar Perez confirmed officers were not looking for anyone else and were working with prosecutors to collect evidence.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 09:46 AM (RuTUS)
130
And amidst all the other horrors, American soldiers died for Syria this weekend.
Care to comment about Americans "dying in the service of a foreign power" Tucker?
Yeah, didn't think so.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 09:47 AM (A0sqA)
131 112 I think that swell dame is Ann Sheridan.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 14, 2025 09:41 AM (kpS4V)
And the scene is from “The man who came to dinner”, a semi-Christmas movie that should be playing this month.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 09:47 AM (k5cxK)
132
the loudest antisemitic voice right now is Tucker Carlson...who comes from a rather elite background and family...that sort of fits...hmmm
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2025 09:48 AM (g47mK)
133
You'd think the 'elites' would understand that they'd get eaten in the end just like the low-life peasants. "That won't happen to ME." To me, thinking that way is in effect suicidal. And it sure happened fast throughout the west.
Banning Islam and deporting a lot of Muslims on some grounds is probably going to be necessary, though I don't look for that to happen any time soon. The only thing I can think of to deter the 'lone wolves' would be almost unthinkable under US law.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 14, 2025 09:48 AM (q3u5l)
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And the scene is from “The man who came to dinner”, a semi-Christmas movie that should be playing this month.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 09:47 AM (k5cxK)
Thanks.
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 09:48 AM (/YboP)
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>>Brown is kind of obscure outside of the privileged class, so I’m betting on one of them with a grudge.
It might not be related and hard to know without more details but Brown has a relatively large Jewish undergraduate population.
The fact they caught the shooter in a hotel about 20 minutes from Brown in Coventry would seem to indicate he isn't just some scumbag from the neighborhood.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 14, 2025 09:49 AM (viF8m)
136
"Video and photos taken by a Daily Mail photographer show a gunman, later identified as Naveed Akram, 24, from Bonnyrigg in Sydney's southwest, opening fire from an elevated bridge."
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2025 09:50 AM (g47mK)
138The only thing I can think of to deter the 'lone wolves' would be almost unthinkable under US law.
I can't think of the term right now, but the Nazis used the concept of 'blood guilt,' especially after the July 1944 attempt to kill Hitler.
IOW, round up every family member, friend and acquaintance of the 'lone wolf' and execute them. In public. No appeal.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 09:50 AM (ufSfZ)
139
My blessed friends. The alert level is very high in our own country right now through the holiday season. Be vigilant and alert in public places and especially while at worship. Make sure your temple or church security has a coordinated plan, with multiple levels of security. May God be with you, and watch over you.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 14, 2025 09:51 AM (S/IIZ)
140
The larger problem of course, is that “We The People” no longer have representative government. The buttons, levers and switches are still there, giving the illusion of “participatory democracy” or whatever they call it, but they aren’t connected to anything, they don’t work. Most of the conflict we see in politics is deflection and dissembling and making mewling noises to ‘splain why they can never do what they are required to do, “can’t get there from here”, yet another iteration of “heads we win tails you lose” and you’re the problem for pointing this out and complaining.
It’s all so unspeakably outrageous I’m a little surprised it has gone this long.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 09:51 AM (ebWKH)
141
Now that I think of it, that would be an interesting concept for a murder novel - a 'lone wolf' whose real object was getting his family killed, not the murders he committed himself.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 09:51 AM (ufSfZ)
"We should try to detoxify the way we think of people who aren't like us think about us., because *diversity is our strength*"
Posted by: Thomas Paine
Fixed it for me.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 14, 2025 09:52 AM (QVmho)
143
Don't trust us to walk and chew gum at the same time?
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 09:52 AM (RG3mK)
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141 Now that I think of it, that would be an interesting concept for a murder novel - a 'lone wolf' whose real object was getting his family killed, not the murders he committed himself.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 09:51 AM (ufSfZ)
Nice one!
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 09:52 AM (RuTUS)
145
IOW, round up every family member, friend and acquaintance of the 'lone wolf' and execute them. In public. No appeal.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
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Unfortunately I don't think that would work when it comes to islam. They are happy to die for their cause.
150If we had any sense we'd be more worried about Brussels and Davos than Moscow.
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 09:00 AM (/YboP)
I've been wondering why I'm not hearing about Davos WEFfers much anymore. This gives the impression that their influence is fading.
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at December 14, 2025 09:54 AM (FMtrg)
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IOW, round up every family member, friend and acquaintance of the 'lone wolf' and execute them. In public. No appeal.
Posted by: Mary Poppins'
In the 1970s, Argentina had rampant terrorism. The solution was to target the families of the terrorists. It worked.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 14, 2025 09:54 AM (0U5gm)
152
Unfortunately I don't think that would work when it comes to islam. They are happy to die for their cause.
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December 14, 2025 09:52 AM (VCgbV)
We should try it anyway
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 09:55 AM (/YboP)
153
I thought Australia took away all the guns. Heh.
Posted by: M. Gaga at December 14, 2025 09:57 AM (KiBMU)
154
The best way to deter lone wolves is open carry for all. An armed society is a polite and peaceful society. If anyone does start shooting, it doesn’t go on for very long.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 09:57 AM (k5cxK)
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 09:57 AM (RuTUS)
156
Unfortunately I don't think that would work when it comes to islam. They are happy to die for their cause.
Posted by: lin-duh is offended
We should maybe accommodate that
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 14, 2025 09:58 AM (tcsrY)
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>>> 150 If we had any sense we'd be more worried about Brussels and Davos than Moscow.
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 09:00 AM (/YboP)
I've been wondering why I'm not hearing about Davos WEFfers much anymore. This gives the impression that their influence is fading.
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at December 14, 2025 09:54 AM (FMtrg)
I think the Brussels and Davos types are trying to act like they "didn't really mean all that stuff" - see for example, Billy Gates suddenly talking down glowball warmening - so they can regroup.
They still need to be dealt with.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 14, 2025 09:58 AM (ULPxl)
158
Imagine if one of those people taking pictures had a rifle instead.
Posted by: fd at December 14, 2025 09:58 AM (vFG9F)
159
We should try it anyway
Posted by: night lifted
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Not saying we shouldn't but given the way they think of women...
Yes. And take it a little farther. His imam and mosque, and all its members. Mass grave with pig carcasses. Anyone who tries to interfere with it goes into the hole too. They want to terrify the infidels, but the infidels aren't doing anything to terrify them. Can't see any of it stopping unless they're more terrified than the infidels.
And I don't see any chance of that happening.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 14, 2025 09:59 AM (q3u5l)
161
Here you go : "The Australian government has imported roughly 800,000 Muslims to help local employers, real estate investors, and retailers. About one in every 33 Australians are Muslim. The giveaway to businesses has hurt Australian families by spiking the cost of housing and by expanding diversity to create Muslim enclaves, such as Lakemba Station."
They also had massive celebration on 10/9/23 in front of Australia' s most famous Opera House, chanting "Gas the Jews". Fkn savages, go home to your shithole, chant whatever yo want there.
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2025 10:00 AM (g47mK)
162
Yes. And take it a little farther. His imam and mosque, and all its members
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This would probably be more effective than family!
163They still need to be dealt with.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 14, 2025 09:58 AM (ULPxl)
I agree.
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at December 14, 2025 10:01 AM (FMtrg)
164 Bonchie
@bonchieredstate
Australia is a parody at this point.
Darren Grimes
@darrengrimes
4h
The man who stomped on the head of the terror suspect in the Australian shooting spree has been arrested… I’m not sure you’ll find many willing jury participants for that one! 🙄
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 10:01 AM (RuTUS)
165
I hope we have a Book Thread today. I wanted to chat before going off to do the writing I need to do.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 14, 2025 10:02 AM (ufSfZ)
166
And I don't see any chance of that happening.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 14, 2025 09:59 AM (q3u5l)
Why not? If the Brits had guns, they'd be delighted to take out imams and mosques. We are in a much better place than the UK
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 10:02 AM (/YboP)
167
The Constitution guarantees freedom of religion as well as the right to bear arms.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 10:02 AM (sDNVV)
168
I think the Brussels and Davos types are trying to act like they "didn't really mean all that stuff" - see for example, Billy Gates suddenly talking down glowball warmening - so they can regroup.“
Bill Gates just realized that his plans require AI which will require a huge number of data farms, etc, which will require huge amounts of energy. And he, like the rest them have known all along that solar and wind will never provide much.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 10:02 AM (k5cxK)
Maybe. They're presumably happy to die for Allah -- but they seem more than willing to be taken alive.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 14, 2025 10:03 AM (q3u5l)
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Hunter Kozak, a Utah Valley University student who was the last person to speak with the conservative influencer just happened to be in the Town Hall with Charlie's widow.
If some you wake up and do not hate media, maybe this thot will get your motor running.
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 14, 2025 10:03 AM (gbOdA)
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This would probably be more effective than family!
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December 14, 2025 10:00 AM (VCgbV)
Families will wait years to avenge a death. Get rid of them, deport or whatever it takes.
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 10:03 AM (/YboP)
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MP4 I have been meaning to ask you- have you started to feel better about the issue you posted before, about your friend & protege getting sudden success?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 14, 2025 10:03 AM (tcsrY)
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You already donned your pants, didn't you?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 14, 2025 09:39 AM (0sNs1)
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'Tis the season for gay apparel!
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The Constitution guarantees freedom of religion as well as the right to bear arms.
Posted by: Ben Had
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True, and unfortunately only one religion is taking advantage of this...
Posted by: Nazdar at December 14, 2025 10:05 AM (NcvvS)
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The Constitution guarantees freedom of religion as well as the right to bear arms.
Posted by: Ben Had
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It does NOT give you the right to yell Death to America, Death to the Jews or Behead the Infidels. Islam must go.
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 10:05 AM (/YboP)
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Since Islam worships death, we should accommodate them and give death to them good, hard, and thoroughly. They are incompatible with civilized behavior, and the sooner Islam is relegated to the dustbin of history, the better off humanity will be.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at December 14, 2025 10:05 AM (MYwa9)
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And let's remember that Obama planned to stand with Muslims.
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 10:06 AM (/YboP)
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175 Re-nood books.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 14, 2025 10:05 AM (NcvvS)
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 10:07 AM (RuTUS)
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lin-duh, so true. What to do when the rule of law is failing so badly?
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 10:09 AM (sDNVV)
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 10:11 AM (RuTUS)
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Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 10:07 AM (RuTUS)
Even got first comment after the re-post. And yes, the pun was irresistible.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 14, 2025 10:12 AM (NcvvS)
183The muzzies in Australia had to be planning this for a while . First day of Hanukkah and at an announced celebration. I hate to say this but I think this may be the first of many more violent incidents in "globalize the Intifada". There have been smaller attacks on Jews on Europe and the US since 10/7 but this could be the beginning of an escalation. Everyone non Muslim keep your head on a swivel
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 14, 2025 09:13 AM
Acid attacks are also the norm in Muslim countries and in Europe. And now apparently becoming the norm in the USA.
National Conservative @NatCon2022
Savage, unprovoked #hatecrime acid attack at Forsyth Park in Savannah, GA.
Police say Ashley Wasielewski was left with severe, life-altering injuries after an unknown Black male snuck up behind her and dumped acid on her head.
X images: https://bit.ly/3MtNAl4
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 10:16 AM (P5BPp)
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"My only hesitation with making Islam illegal is that the left would storm the gates of heaven to make Christianity illegal if and when they ever return to power.
Posted by: Mary Poppins'
Instead of making Islam(not really a religion) illegal, make some of their practices illegal (already illegal). Like their efforts at insurrection, advocating terrorism, protecting terrorists ... any other way to tie them to their covert efforts to conquer.
I wonder if the mosques were directly involved in the massive move to steal government funds and send it to terrorists back home, for example.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 14, 2025 10:17 AM (vbXSk)
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Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 10:05 AM (/YboP)
You can say all those things unless the context in which you say them gives rise to immediate threat of violence. It's perfectly legal to write Death to America. It's protected speech.
The problem is the Constitution was written to govern Englishmen with an Enlightenment mindset and Christian religion (and people that could emulate them). It cannot govern Muslims. Second and third generation Muslims hate Enlightenment/Christian worldview more than the immigrants. The only solution is very ugly to contemplate, but the alternative is uglier still.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 14, 2025 10:17 AM (R86kT)
HATE CRIME: Christian woman targeted in random acid attack by a black suspect while leaving church in Georgia. Acid attacks on western women by Islamic migrants is the norm in Europe - it must not become the norm here.
X image: https://bit.ly/3KvM41d
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 10:17 AM (P5BPp)
Two senior law enforcement officials briefed on the matter say a suspect is in custody in connection with the shooting.
The man had a unique characteristic on his firearm and that firearm was found when he was taken into custody.
The person has not been identified and has not yet been charged."
Posted by: illiniwek at December 14, 2025 10:19 AM (vbXSk)
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Someone posted a photo of a beautiful old British village on Substack. I posted encouraging the to protect it especially from immigrants. And that was met by one bragging about how he would destroy it. We are reaching the point where the time for compromise and coexistence is gone. I don't welcome the brutality, but it seems to be the only thing they understand.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 14, 2025 10:20 AM (+mUZM)
190Instead of making Islam(not really a religion) illegal, make some of their practices illegal (already illegal). Like their efforts at insurrection, advocating terrorism, protecting terrorists ... any other way to tie them to their covert efforts to conquer.
I wonder if the mosques were directly involved in the massive move to steal government funds and send it to terrorists back home, for example.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 14, 2025 10:17 AM
Laws do not mean a damn thing if there is no one with the will to enforce them. And if a nation's people do not recognize the rule of law.
We have seen that over the past 2+ decades with illegal aliens. Not only do we have government not enforcing laws, we have government actively ignoring the laws and breaking the laws themselves to bring more illegal aliens to this country. On top of that, we have governments, government agencies, NGOs and religious groups all ignoring the laws and declaring "sanctuary" for illegals.
And we have the entire media covering for them. And this happens in every western nation on the planet.
Western civilization is dying by suicide.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 10:22 AM (P5BPp)
The Mayor of Providence Brett Smiley and his husband.
Does the total ineptitude in handling the search for the Brown University shooter make sense now?
X image: https://bit.ly/49b422g
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 10:29 AM (P5BPp)
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And we have the entire media covering for them. And this happens in every western nation on the planet.
Western civilization is dying by suicide.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 10:22 AM (P5BPp)
And killing their own people in order to install WEF totalitarianism. I doubt if Starmer, Blair, Macron, Schwab, Harari and any of the other left wing perverts plan to die. And yes, Blair is a pervert, Harari and Schwab were a thing, and Starmer is famous for "rent boys". Obama of course.
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 10:30 AM (/YboP)
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"@KassyAkiva 1h
After the shooter was disarmed, the hero let him walk away. The shooter then went and picked up another gun and kept shooting until police finally shot him.
https://tinyurl.com/yjzu8k8m
X link, video shows guy grabbing the rifle, then the shooter runs off with his backpack. Video does not show him grabbing another gun, but likely had on in that backpack.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 14, 2025 10:31 AM (vbXSk)
BREAKING: Brown University mass shooter yelled “Allahu Akbar” before opening fire on campus according to sources.
How come the media is suppressing eye witness testimony about how the shooter at Brown University allegedly shouted Allahu Akbar before he opened fire on campus the night before the first night of Hanukkah?
The media is only saying “he shouted something” before he opened fire.
Source tells me he yelled Allahu Akbar, but it’s being kept quiet by police and the Democrats who run Rhode Island.
TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THE TRUTH! TELL THEM WHAT WAS SHOUTED!
X video: https://bit.ly/48OCNJt
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 10:31 AM (P5BPp)
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191 Clyde, suicide or apathy?
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 10:26 AM (sDNVV)
There is no doubt that Starmer and Macron have the means to stop the migrants, but are colluding.
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 10:32 AM (/YboP)
'an unknown Black male snuck up behind her and dumped acid on her head.'
They're really burnishing their reputation as cowards.
I foresee a day where cowardice is really going to cost them.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 14, 2025 10:33 AM (fd80v)
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Video does not show him grabbing another gun, but likely had on in that backpack.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 14, 2025 10:31 AM (vbXSk)
There was another gun lying on the ground on the bridge. When the disarmed shooter (was permitted to) wandered back to the bridge, he picked that one up so he could shoot some more.
199 X video: https://bit.ly/48OCNJt
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 10:31 AM (P5BPp)
They interviewed several of those shot, but did not release details of the shooter
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 10:38 AM (/YboP)
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night lifted, I don't think they have the means any more and they surely don't have the will.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 10:39 AM (sDNVV)
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Lock clockwork, Sen. Chris Murphy blames Trump for the Brown University shooting. Even Dana Bash was taken aback by it.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 14, 2025 10:41 AM (Y1sOo)
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200 night lifted, I don't think they have the means any more and they surely don't have the will.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 10:39 AM (sDNVV)
They both have armies and navies, there is no reason not to prevent invasion. Hungary does it every damn day. But then, Orban is not a WEF Adherent. Starmer loudly proclaimed that he prefers Davos to Westminster. Another creepy Davos boy: Zelensky.
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 10:42 AM (/YboP)
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200: STarmer has said he will not use the Royal Navy against these boats. They also have complicit judges who sentence rapists to community service and attribute their crimes to "culture", the poor babies. Sound like Boasberg? Yeah
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 10:44 AM (/YboP)
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From what I've seen of the courage of the western world's population (including the US), as soon as Trump's term is over, most westerners will run away whimpering to a dark corner and just wait patiently for the enemy to kill them. I see no willingness to fight.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 14, 2025 10:44 AM (g8Ew8)
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Making it especially difficult is that is where we spent our time in Sydney. We watched the Chabad doing morning prayer at sunrise on Bondi from our apartment window.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 10:48 AM (8SdDq)
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204 From what I've seen of the courage of the western world's population (including the US), as soon as Trump's term is over, most westerners will run away whimpering to a dark corner and just wait patiently for the enemy to kill them. I see no willingness to fight.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 14, 2025 10:44 AM (g8Ew
The brits in the street tell a different story, but an unarmed, no disarmed, people can't do much. On FB they are calling for unheard of things, at least since Charles I.
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 10:49 AM (/YboP)
NEWS: ANGRY CROWDS GATHER OUTSIDE TERRORISTS HOME IN AUSTRALIA
This is going to end in more violence
People have had enough
X video: https://bit.ly/4aP8Qvw
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 10:50 AM (P5BPp)
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If it turns out Brown is also an Islamic hate attack they will delay that information as long as they can to blunt the impact of the news on the normies.
Who might otherwise draw unwanted conclusions.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 10:50 AM (8SdDq)
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Just got hee so don't know if this has been posted yet.
Apparently the classroom targeted was a Judaic studies class. Also seeing that the suspect yelled just what you would expect.
My family Hannukah party is this afternoon. This should be a joyous day. But I am afraid that this is just the beginning. Have the Islamists finally achieved the critical mass necessary to wage actual War against the West?
A Brown University professor was deported for attending the funeral of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah.
Brown hires terrorists to teach your kids.
Truly disgusting.
X: https://bit.ly/3MH9SzG
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 10:52 AM (P5BPp)
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Brit military, 181, 000 / 63.9 million population
French military, 200,00/ 68.6 million
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 10:52 AM (sDNVV)
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NEWS: ANGRY CROWDS GATHER OUTSIDE TERRORISTS HOME IN AUSTRALIA
This is going to end in more violence
People have had enough
X video: https://bit.ly/4aP8Qvw
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
Good.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 14, 2025 10:57 AM (LjSYW)
213"The Australian government has imported roughly 800,000 Muslims to help local employers, real estate investors, and retailers. About one in every 33 Australians are Muslim. The giveaway to businesses has hurt Australian families by spiking the cost of housing and by expanding diversity to create Muslim enclaves, such as Lakemba Station."
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2025 10:00 AM
According to the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) 2021 Census, there were 813,392 people identifying as Muslim, representing 3.2% of Australia's population at the time. Australia's total population as of late 2025 is estimated at around 27–27.5 million (per ABS and Worldometer data). This puts the current Muslim population likely between 850,000 and 1 million (with some projections suggesting it could reach 1 million soon due to ongoing growth). That equates to roughly 3–4% of the population — not "one in every 33" (which would be about 3%, close but not exact for 2025 estimates).
Growth in the Muslim community is driven by a combination of higher birth rates, conversions, and immigration...
Grok: https://bit.ly/4pHZ9Uk
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 11:01 AM (P5BPp)
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Yesterday was the start of Hannukah. There is no doubt in my mind that this was the trigger. It is all about the Jews. States recognizing Palestine and apologizing to terrorists are responsible for how bold Islamists have become. They are not hiding it anymore.
215And let's remember that Obama planned to stand with Muslims.
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 10:06 AM
Islam Invasion @IslamInvasion
“Islam is part of America - We are no longer a Christian nation”
Obama: United States has been enriched by Muslims. There’s a mosque in every state and over 1,200 mosques in our borders!
Still question whether he played a role in this?!
X video: https://bit.ly/4aQgUMz
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 11:06 AM (P5BPp)
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Peace is not the natural state of man. Peace is a small respite between conflicts.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 11:09 AM (sDNVV)
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'Obama: United States has been enriched by Muslims. There’s a mosque in every state and over 1,200 mosques in our borders!
Still question whether he played a role in this?!'
I am so sure he played a role that I long to see him play a role in his own public execution.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 14, 2025 11:10 AM (fd80v)
218The problem is the Constitution was written to govern Englishmen with an Enlightenment mindset and Christian religion (and people that could emulate them). It cannot govern Muslims. Second and third generation Muslims hate Enlightenment/Christian worldview more than the immigrants. The only solution is very ugly to contemplate, but the alternative is uglier still.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 14, 2025 10:17 AM
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people; it is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." -- John Adams
The USA has long stopped having a population of moral and religious people. The Constitution is now essentially a suicide pact our enemies have been using against us for decades. They already won the Long March Through the Institutions. Now they are destroying us from the inside through their control of every medium of information dissemination, especially the schools and universities.
Since the election of Obama, there has been no #winning!, there has simply been management of the decline.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 11:12 AM (P5BPp)
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 11:13 AM (/YboP)
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Growth in the Muslim community is driven by a combination of higher birth rates, conversions, and immigration...
Grok: https://bit.ly/4pHZ9Uk
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 11:01 AM (P5BPp)
Conversion. Sad but true. A particularly vile case is the author of some Islamic hero books who converted from Christianity in the days after 9/11. Takes a special sort of evil.
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 11:15 AM (/YboP)
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217 215
'Obama: United States has been enriched by Muslims. There’s a mosque in every state and over 1,200 mosques in our borders!
...
Still question whether he played a role in this?!'
...
I am so sure he played a role that I long to see him play a role in his own public execution.
It's now TOO LATE: On the 2nd day of Jeffmas True Islam sent to me... Catalyst Comet approaches... What fools these Mortals be !!! forWAR'd.
Remember who did this:
"to leave now we would send a message to terrorists and other potential adversaries around the world that they can change our policies by killing our people. It would be open season on Americans."
-- Bill Clinton '93 just before he pulled out of Somalia.
To abandon this area now -- and to rely only on efforts against alQaeda from a distance -- would significantly hamper our ability to keep the pressure on al Qaeda, and create an UNACCEPTABLE RISK -- OBAMA'09
what is the vital national interest? -- IceKingJOE enabling precisely that!
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at December 14, 2025 11:16 AM (xlxiT)
Posted by: Common Tater at December 14, 2025 11:16 AM (m+uh6)
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The long march through the institutions happened because no one stood up to stop or counter it. That never should have been a given. Bemoaning it is a pitiful excuse.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 11:17 AM (sDNVV)
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It seems like the ongoing viciousness in public discourse is ginning up a lot of violence, not just against Jews, but against defenseless young white women, masses of holiday goers, Christian worshippers, random people on trains or the street, you name it. It’s like Anger has taken over the world.
Posted by: RebeccaH at December 14, 2025 11:20 AM (VFung)
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222 “Western civilization is dying by suicide”
It wasn’t a suicide, Gus. Get that in your head.
How TRUE. By pitting Man against other men, some are making fabulous profits beyond their Dreams of Avarice... appeasing a crocodile with the vain hope it eats them last...
Isn't it time to think Different? while you still can (are free to)?
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at December 14, 2025 11:21 AM (SxL7g)
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224 It seems like the ongoing viciousness in public discourse is ginning up a lot of violence, not just against Jews, but against defenseless young white women, masses of holiday goers, Christian worshippers, random people on trains or the street, you name it. It’s like Anger has taken over the world.
Posted by: RebeccaH at December 14, 2025 11:20 AM (VFung)
A backlash is overdue. Maybe they'll do it down under, and take down the leadership (a WEF bastard).
Posted by: night lifted at December 14, 2025 11:23 AM (/YboP)
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But I am afraid that this is just the beginning. Have the Islamists finally achieved the critical mass necessary to wage actual War against the West?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 14, 2025 10:52 AM (t/2Uw)
It's looking that way. I don't think it's random that these two attacks happened when they did.
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224:...It’s like Anger has taken over the world.
Indeed. The catalyst comet approaches, a tipping point, -- changing the world forever in the hand of the few for whom Left, Right, Up, Down, and all Normal People are their playthings.
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at December 14, 2025 11:24 AM (2GBlA)
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Throwing yourselves onto the sword of Islam isn't suicide what is?
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 11:27 AM (Ia/+0)
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While it doesn't get nearly the attention of Harvard or Columbia, Brown University has a serious anti-semite problem. The Brown administration is as far left as any university.
This might not turn out to be a jihad attack but it won't be a bit surprising if it is.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 14, 2025 11:30 AM (viF8m)
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But I am afraid that this is just the beginning. Have the Islamists finally achieved the critical mass necessary to wage actual War against the West?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 14, 2025 10:52 AM (t/2Uw)
It's looking that way. I don't think it's random that these two attacks happened when they did.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 14, 2025 11:23 AM (h7ZuX)
This is how I'm seeing it. It's not coincidence.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 14, 2025 11:31 AM (g8Ew8)
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I think Islam is ascendent right now. In the UK the Muslims have essentially co-opted the government there. They hold office in many places.
You'd think they would continue to do that elsewhere. Even if it meant targeting politicians. Here, they slip into office with the help of an ignorant public and a sympathetic left. But that might not be enough for them to co-opt our government unless they start getting rid of the status quo BAMN.
Wonder how the political class will react if they're replaced in office by Muslims using violence? It's always fine when it's someone else...
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 14, 2025 11:33 AM (NwnyJ)
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229 Throwing yourselves onto the sword of Islam isn't suicide what is?
A: Having to listen to the ceaseless cackle of wuz2B/ Kamala ctHARRIS as she watches the worlds succumb to an evil the likes of which the world has never seen, rewarding the guilty, punishing the Innocent, CHAMPIONING the medicore and imprisoning her critics to who believe her performance wasn't up to the equivalent of Nero playing the violin as Rome burns.
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at December 14, 2025 11:35 AM (FKtXw)
234From what I've seen of the courage of the western world's population (including the US), as soon as Trump's term is over, most westerners will run away whimpering to a dark corner and just wait patiently for the enemy to kill them. I see no willingness to fight.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 14, 2025 10:44 AM
All Muslims needed to see was the western world's population reaction to the Plandemic. There was no fight, no resistance. Just complete obedience to all the WEF policies of masking up, "social distancing", lockdowns, etc.
And since the Marxist Left has succeeded in their takeover of Western civilization through their Long March Through the Institutions, Muslims and every other leftist radical group is emboldened since they know they will face zero consequences for their actions.
And in fact, most western nation governments will go easy on the leftist terrorists and punish the victims of the terrorism more than the perpetrators. Arresting people for defending themselves or others, throwing people in prison for social media complaints about terrorism, etc.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 11:36 AM (P5BPp)
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Brown Shooter supposedly yelled something before he began firing. Probably either “Taxation is theft!” or “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
Couldn’t have been anything ending in Wackbar.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 11:36 AM (k5cxK)
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Just got hee so don't know if this has been posted yet.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 14, 2025 10:52 AM
This reminded me of the scene in "Mickey Blue Eyes" when James Caan is trying to teach Hugh Grant how to speak New York gangster:
YouTube: https://bit.ly/4rTBvpg
"Get the hell outta hee!"
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 11:40 AM (P5BPp)
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236: This reminded me of the scene in "Mickey Blue Eyes"...
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-RememberThisWell
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-LIBsTheChickenRun
Still 10 more days of Jeffmas -- only TRUMP can end this.
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-MorallySuperiorSharks
... Even more obscene is the celebration by the Democrats of the scandal during a presidential campaign.... They would gladly sacrifice the country if only they could rule over its ruins. ...
How little has changed. What fools these mortals be!
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at December 14, 2025 11:45 AM (4MTQI)
238
Ah, yes.
A little light reading on a Sunday morning at the laundromat.
Posted by: RI Red at December 14, 2025 11:50 AM (5EblX)
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But I am afraid that this is just the beginning. Have the Islamists finally achieved the critical mass necessary to wage actual War against the West?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 14, 2025 10:52 AM (t/2Uw)
They are on the back foot. they tried militarily on 10/7 and thanks to Israeli resolve, in spite of pusillanimous pussyfooters in the West, the US under bidet, UK, France , all the ones who tripped over themselves to promote from the river to the sea, they still did what hat to be done. Now islamonazis are pushing, promoting, paying for the "influencer" war. Let's see how that works out for them....
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2025 11:50 AM (g47mK)
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Brown Shooter supposedly yelled something before he began firing. Probably either “Taxation is theft!” or “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
Couldn’t have been anything ending in Wackbar.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 11:36 AM (k5cxK)
Very close, rhymes with Fallah Rakbar.
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2025 11:52 AM (g47mK)
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My family Hannukah party is this afternoon. This should be a joyous day. But I am afraid that this is just the beginning. Have the Islamists finally achieved the critical mass necessary to wage actual War against the West?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 14, 2025 10:52 AM (t/2Uw)
I wish you all a blessed Hannukah.
These recent events should underscore the wisdom of Weasel. Head on a swivel. Kit up. Practice. The day draws near where it may be needed.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 14, 2025 11:54 AM (7v6oI)
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My autocorrect refuses to write here or so,ething(see it did it again) correctly no matter how many time I type it.
Even if they are here illegally, by the time they propagate, it’s too late to squeeze the toothpaste back into the tube. Their birthrate is a juggernaut, and it is unbeatable. The Christian values on which our beloved nation was founded will be buried and long forgotten.
Wall Street Apes @WallStreetApes
Texas Suhoor Fest, where over 10,000+ Muslims gather to celebrate
Islam is the fastest growing religion in Texas by both absolute numbers and percentage increase
It was driven by immigration and now with their high birth rates it’s exploded
X video: https://bit.ly/47SCsGo
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 11:56 AM (P5BPp)
"Over 24 hours: A Muslim killed 3 Americans in Syria. 5 Muslims arrested for plotting a massacre at a Christmas market in Germany. Paris concert cancelled due to Muslim violence. 2 Muslims murdered 12 people at a Hanukkah party in Australia. Islamophobia is getting out of control!"
We can also add Brown University murder spree to the list of Islamophobic incidents.
Posted by: runner at December 14, 2025 11:56 AM (g47mK)
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Is there any country on Earth where white Christians can move to and turn the local customs and laws in their favor and get free welfare, housing and schooling while committing petty crimes, rape, fraud and murder?
If not, why not?
Posted by: What Is To Be Done? at December 14, 2025 11:57 AM (R/m4+)
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Seems a suspect has been picked up in the Brown University shooting but it's useless to read any article from the Marxists Propaganda Ministry because they won't tell you anything unless it's a MAGA supporter
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 12:00 PM (Ia/+0)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 12:02 PM (Ia/+0)
250I think Islam is ascendent right now. In the UK the Muslims have essentially co-opted the government there. They hold office in many places.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 14, 2025 11:33 AM
Yep.
Muslim takeover of England: https://bit.ly/3ROxCBc
Mayor of London (Muslim): Sadiq Khan
Mayor of Birmingham (Muslim): Shafique Shah
Mayor of Leeds (Muslim): Asghar Khan
Mayor of Blackburn (Muslim): Parwaiz Akhtar
Mayor of Sheffield (Muslim): Magid
Mayor of Oxford (Muslim): Lubna Arshad
Mayor of Luton (Muslim): Tahmina Saleem
Mayor of Oldham (Muslim): Zahid Chauhan
Mayor of Rochdale (Muslim): Shaily Ahmed
Over 3,000 mosques and 130+ Sharia courts
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 12:05 PM (P5BPp)
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Biden, Blinken, etc. did the world no favor. How much was agreed upon well the advance?
AI, in part -
In Fall 2021, Afghans evacuated to Australia were overwhelmingly Muslim, as Islam is the predominant religion in Afghanistan (over 99% Muslim), with significant communities settling in cities like Melbourne and Sydney; most evacuees were processed through humanitarian visas, joining the existing Afghan diaspora in Australia, which is heavily concentrated in NSW and Victoria.
Religious Demographics
Islam in Afghanistan: Afghanistan is an overwhelmingly Muslim country, with over 99% of its population adhering to Islam.
Afghan Community in Australia: The existing Afghan-born population in Australia also identifies overwhelmingly as Muslim, with one source indicating 91.2% adherence to Islam within the community, says the Afghan Embassy in Australia.
Migration Context (Fall 2021)
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 14, 2025 12:13 PM (NFX2v)
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 14, 2025 12:14 PM (NFX2v)
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"I have spent well-nigh 50 years working on the history of our revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval.
If I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately:
"Men have forgotten G-d; that is why all this has happened.” Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Posted by: ju at December 14, 2025 12:15 PM (EgpoY)
254Oddly enough, Australia doesn't even rank in the Top 40:
https://x.com/kharon1900/status/1940070412354036122
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 14, 2025 11:56 AM (2Ez/1)
A shame they didn't normalize that list by population...
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 14, 2025 12:32 PM (/HDaX)
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The only solution is very ugly to contemplate, but the alternative is uglier still.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 14, 2025 10:17 AM
It's getting less ugly to me by the second. We now understand Vlad Tepes.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 14, 2025 03:56 PM (Vvh2V)
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The solution is simple and reletive to the lasts administrations payoffs, cheap. Expropriation.
Fly them wherever they want to settle or to whatever country will take them. Do not steal their possessions; make them whole.
Put Richard Grenell in charge of making them whole and Tom Homan's doppleganger in charge of boarding them out.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 14, 2025 06:09 PM (/9q7d)
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DDG AI: Are there Muslim mayors in the U.S? If there are Muslim mayors in the U.S. what are the names of the cities and what are their names?
Yes, there are Muslim mayors in the United States, and their numbers have grown significantly in recent years, particularly following the 2025 elections which marked a record milestone for Muslim American political representation.
As of late 2025, several U.S. cities have Muslim mayors, including major and smaller municipalities across multiple states.
Notable Muslim mayors and the cities they lead include:
Zohran K. Mamdani, who became the first Muslim mayor of New York City in November 2025, a historic victory given the city's size and prominence.
His election was widely celebrated as a watershed moment for Muslim representation in American urban politics.
Abdullah Hammoud, who has served as mayor of Dearborn, Michigan since 2022 and was re-elected in 2025.
Dearborn is known for its large Arab American and Muslim population, and Hammoud’s leadership reflects a broader trend of Muslim political engagement in the region.
Mo Baydoun, elected mayor of Dearborn Heights, Michigan in 2025.
continued
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 14, 2025 06:20 PM (/9q7d)
Faizul Kabir, the new mayor of College Park, Maryland.
Ted Green, mayor of East Orange, New Jersey, who was re-elected in 2025.
Additionally, Mohamed Khairullah has been the long-serving mayor of Prospect Park, New Jersey, holding office for nearly two decades.
Other New Jersey municipalities with Muslim mayors in recent years include Cranbury, Montgomery Township, Mount Laurel, Mountain Lakes, Chatham, and Washington Township in Warren County, though some of these positions are filled through council appointments rather than direct election.
The 2025 elections saw at least five Muslim mayors elected nationwide, part of a broader wave that resulted in 42 Muslim Americans winning public office across nine states, including city councils, school boards, and state legislatures.
This surge is attributed to increased civic engagement, demographic shifts, and grassroots organizing within Muslim American communities.
_DDG AI
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 14, 2025 06:20 PM (/9q7d)
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Thank Heaven the Australian government had outlawed guns for the Jewish community. Someone might have been gurt.
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at December 14, 2025 09:17 PM (Nn86z)
Because AI is not just a stochastic bullshit generator. It's a stochastic plausibility generator.
AI images? They're not art, they don't have meaning; they're just close enough to make you think they have meaning.
AI stories and essays? The same except that it's a lot worse at holding to a thread.
AI software testing? Actually useful. It might miss some test cases you would have tried, but it will also create test cases you wouldn't have thought of, and it will do it quickly.
AI software? It will be produced quickly and for any non-trivial task it won't work. But it may look like it does.
The deeper issue is psychological. The more polished the output looks, the less likely someone is to question it. Verification feels redundant when something sounds authoritative.
I side with Gnome here. The rules are actually pretty sensible. Both things I am surprised to find myself saying given the nonsense Gnome has gotten up to at times.
I would wonder whether the audience still exists but apparently the original game was released for the Nintendo Switch as recently as 2021, so apparently they still do.
Think of it this way: Having three cars instead of one bus gives you a lot more flexibility. But having 140 cars means you spend all your time managing the logistics of the cars themselves rather than driving people where they need to go.
Seven bags of bark chips deployed. Neighbour came over while I was working and complimented me on how good it looked. Which I think is only partly a comment on how bad it looked before - I live next to an overgrown vacant lot which looks even worse - because even I think the results were worth the effort.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 04:10 AM (RuTUS)
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It snowed a few inches and didn't do anything I usually do for that occasion.
Turn truck facing down hill towards road
Get my coveralls out of the truck
Snow boots out of outbuilding
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 04:10 AM (Ia/+0)
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 04:21 AM (RuTUS)
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Difference between the two events is that in the Sydney attack there is video footage capturing everything. Just watched a local hero jump one of the gunmen from behind, disarm him, and hold him at gunpoint in turn.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at December 14, 2025 04:24 AM (BLOW1)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 04:25 AM (Ia/+0)
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big shooting @ brown university too ... 20 shot, 800 cameras on campus but no video ... no suspects, nobody dunno nuffin about nuffin. (literally! lol) (video @ Insty's)
sock's prediction: it was a TPUSA meeting, shooter was a communiss. it was an op, total info blackout.
guess we'll just see what we see, ...
oh, or if you might prefer something more lighthearted, Sarah Hoyt's meme drop @ accordingtohoyt.com
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 14, 2025 04:25 AM (Cjt/F)
Officials released a video of a person of interest, a male, possibly in his 30s, wearing dark clothing. He was last seen leaving the engineering building.... Authorities believe the shooter used a handgun.... Seven of the nine wounded were listed as critical....
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 04:25 AM (RuTUS)
... a shooting at Brown University in Rhode Island that left two students dead and another nine people wounded ... The Providence university remained in lockdown several hours after a suspect with a firearm entered a building where students were taking exams. ... Investigators were not yet sure how the shooter got inside the first-floor classroom. ... The shooting occurred near the Barus & Holley building, a seven-story complex that houses the university’s school of engineering and physics department.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 04:28 AM (RuTUS)
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 05:00 AM (RuTUS)
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14 Difference between the two events is that in the Sydney attack there is video footage capturing everything. Just watched a local hero jump one of the gunmen from behind, disarm him, and hold him at gunpoint in turn.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at December 14, 2025 04:24 AM (BLOW1)
Supercool.
The shooter on the 7News clip looked like a pro.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 05:02 AM (RuTUS)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 05:09 AM (Ia/+0)
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31 M,
You ready for the impending seasonal celebration?
Went to a local holiday show last night. carols, cookies and cocoa. Lots of wholesome fun.
It’s nice living in a more normal place.
Posted by: Pete Bog at December 14, 2025 05:07 AM (Idemf)
Happy holidays! Low decoration around here due to travel plans. Also nice!
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 05:12 AM (RuTUS)
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Notebookcheck has an Amazon link for the HP Omnibook 7 Aero on their page.
They said the price on the review unit was $1200, but the Amazon link is for $529. So I had to look and see if they were selling the thing for more than 50% off.
Turns out the link goes to an HP Omnibook 5, with a Snapdragon APU. OK that’s a mistake on Notebookcheck’s part, but the interesting thing is that $529 laptop has an OLED 2K (1200p) screen in it.
I’ve never seen a $529 laptop with an OLED screen before. If anybody wants a cheap laptop, with excellent battery life and an absolutely stunning display just for watching video and surfing the web, this is a pretty good deal.
Here’s a clean Amazon link:
https://tinyurl.com/rpzth7e8
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 05:12 AM (6ydKt)
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>>> because even I think the results were worth the effort.
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When the roots take and things start to show you will be pleased. All those live decorations.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 14, 2025 05:15 AM (ONKca)
Stephen L. Miller retweeted
Brian Entin
@BrianEntin
15h
Staff Sgt. Andrew Wolfe, who was one of two National Guard members shot while patrolling in D.C., was released from the hospital.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 05:17 AM (RuTUS)
Stephen L. Miller
@redsteeze
4h
All that's happening is a bunch of these guys are seeing who the main character is on this platform day after day and being amplified by morons.
So they simply start echoing the same sentiments hoping to be amplified by the same morons. That's it. It's not hard
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 05:19 AM (RuTUS)
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Bondi Beach is pretty famous.
It’s the only beach in Oz I know the name of.
I can’t recall another terrorist attack in Australia in recent memory.
The only mass murder I recall is the Port Arthur massacre in Tasmania, but that was decades ago.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 05:24 AM (6ydKt)
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 05:30 AM (RuTUS)
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BBC has verified (presumably everything in) this report:
A verified video which has appeared on social media shows two gunmen firing from a small bridge which crosses from the carpark on Campbell Parade towards the beach itself.
The bridge is just 50m (164 feet) from the children’s park, Bondi Park Playground.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 05:33 AM (RuTUS)
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45 nineteen minutes! but worth it for an in-depth look at what Candace's talents are:
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Talents? She must be nekked.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 14, 2025 05:34 AM (ONKca)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 14, 2025 05:24 AM (ONKca)
Is that Skip!
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 05:35 AM (RuTUS)
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BBC is now reporting the hero Pixy mentioned, not yet providing a video:
An extraordinary verified video appears to show a man tackling one of the gunmen, taking his gun and turning it back on him, forcing him to retreat.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 05:39 AM (RuTUS)
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45 nineteen minutes! but worth it for an in-depth look at what Candace's talents are:
https://nitter.net/scrowder/status/
1999912078199456103
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 05:30 AM (RuTUS)
If you follow m’s link, be sure to back out the space before ‘19…’ or the browser will insert a %20 (= space) in the link and you’ll get an error,
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 05:41 AM (6ydKt)
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50 45 nineteen minutes! but worth it for an in-depth look at what Candace's talents are:
https://nitter.net/scrowder/status/
1999912078199456103
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 05:30 AM (RuTUS)
If you follow m’s link, be sure to back out the space before ‘19…’ or the browser will insert a %20 (= space) in the link and you’ll get an error,
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 05:41 AM (6ydKt)
Here's a tinyurl:
https://tinyurl.com/y3jezhhj
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 05:43 AM (RuTUS)
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 05:47 AM (RuTUS)
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Evening and morning, Sunday toilers and early risers!
I'm up only a little ahead of the alarm. I set it because I want to see the end of Sherlock Holmes and the Voice of Terror, the first (1942) of the Universal series with Rathbone and Nigel Bruce. It's partly based on Doyle's own "His Last Bow." I want to hear Rathbone delivering Holmes's famous words to Watson: "There is an east wind coming all the same . . ."
Furry thuglets? Doing fine. I'm trying to shift their feeding schedule to a time about an hour later than the current arrangement, so Stirling (theoretically) wont leap on me at four am but at five -- and I'll already be up by then. Bwa-ha-ha!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 05:48 AM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 14, 2025 06:01 AM (yNJrI)
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61 Thanks for that link to the speech on Candace, m.
I’d missed all that drama last year as it happened right after my mother died and the last thing I cared about was some internet drama.
I do find it interesting that the Groyper crew proclaim Christ is King while being total Jew-haters as if Jesus wasn’t Jewish.
I’m sure they’ve got some clever rhetorical way around that contradiction, though.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 06:00 AM (6ydKt)
cool
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 06:02 AM (RuTUS)
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Great bad guy actor Peter Greene dies at 60
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Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 14, 2025 06:02 AM (yNJrI)
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58 I could find most places ever mentioned in Europe on a map but no idea where Bondi Beach is in Australia.
Could assume on east coast
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 05:56 AM (Ia/+0)
Yes, southeast coast.
It’s close to Sydney.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 06:03 AM (6ydKt)
66Sherlock Holmes and the Voice of Terror wound up quite well, with a surprise revelation -- the villain behind the propaganda radio broadcasts was not the "Lord Haw-Haw" fellow, but someone unsuspected. And the film ends with the exact lines from Doyle's own "His Last Bow."
The "Lord Haw-Haw" radio broadcast propagandist in this film, Meade, is played by Thomas Gomez. You'll recall his work as an overweight, sleazy thug in many '40s-'50s noir films and others, such as Key Largo. He really had a fantastic voice, and from what I saw, played Meade extremely well.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 06:04 AM (wzUl9)
If I listen to that it'll stay in my brain all day.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 06:11 AM (RuTUS)
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The upside to feeding the cats later? Little Dagny La Siberienne, the aloof one, is now sitting on the arm of the sofa next to me! Three years and more, and she has never done this before.
Glad to see, Pixy, that at least one of your countrymen has the stones to go after a threat instead of cowering "sheltering in place." We should have seen that here during other shooting scenarios, where the gunman stops to reload -- a good chance for two or three people to jump him.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 06:11 AM (wzUl9)
7158 I could find most places ever mentioned in Europe on a map but no idea where Bondi Beach is in Australia.
Could assume on east coast
Posted by: Skip
Yeah, it's in Sydney, quite close to the center of the city.
And you're correct about Perth.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at December 14, 2025 06:12 AM (BLOW1)
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Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 05:47 AM (RuTUS
Amen.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2025 06:15 AM (PFs9e)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 06:16 AM (Ia/+0)
74No one lives in Perth, it's a made up town
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025
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On the edge of the Indian Ocean -- one of the most isolated large cities in the world, I understand. And with a rather Mediterranean/southern California climate because of its location in the correct latitude and position on the western edge of the continent. South Africa and a portion of Chile have the same in the Southern Hemisphere.
Two of the faculty members of my old department, a married Italian couple, accepted a job in Perth some years ago. Talk about a location change --!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 06:16 AM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Fluffy Nuggets, Jr. at December 14, 2025 06:16 AM (0VlOY)
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IIRR, at least one of the earliest Rathbone/Bruce Holmes films was set in the late 19th century. Once WWII broke out, they catapulted him into the present day so he could battle against Nazis.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 14, 2025 06:17 AM (yNJrI)
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64 Great bad guy actor Peter Greene dies at 60
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 14, 2025 06:02 AM (yNJrI)
Early photos of him, he's absolutely gorgeous.
Wikipedia:
By the time of his death, he had been given a role in an upcoming Mickey Rourke movie called "Mascots" and was involved in at least two other projects.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 06:18 AM (RuTUS)
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Why does no one live in Perth? What am I missing?
Posted by: Accomack at December 14, 2025 06:19 AM (sStKZ)
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Perth is seriously remote. If San Diego was the only city west of the Mississippi, you'd have a good idea of what Perth is like.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at December 14, 2025 06:22 AM (BLOW1)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 06:22 AM (Ia/+0)
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Wikipedia
Perth (Nyungar: Boorloo) is the capital city of Western Australia. It is the fourth-most-populous city in Australia, with a population of over 2.3 million within Greater Perth as of 2023.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 06:24 AM (RuTUS)
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Rabbi who founded the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews ( Rabbi Eckstein) on "like a breath" and Psalm 144 vs 3-4:
https://tinyurl.com/2vd64tt4
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2025 06:25 AM (PFs9e)
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Heh. That makes sense. I make the mistake of thinking Australia has American levels of water and soil fertility.
I guess not.
Posted by: Accomack at December 14, 2025 06:25 AM (sStKZ)
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Good morning Horde.
In this Christmas season , a time of peace on Earth and good will towards men , the Intifada is being globalized. Prayers for those who lost their lives and their families in Sydney .
Oh , and Aussies how's that gun confiscation working out for you?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 14, 2025 06:27 AM (D+mpw)
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84 Good morning Horde.
In this Christmas season , a time of peace on Earth and good will towards men , the Intifada is being globalized. Prayers for those who lost their lives and their families in Sydney .
Oh , and Aussies how's that gun confiscation working out for you?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 14, 2025 06:27 AM (D+mpw)
... only bad guys will have guns.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 06:28 AM (RuTUS)
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You can't get there but by plane
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 06:22 AM (Ia/+0)
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Boats would disagree.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 14, 2025 06:28 AM (yNJrI)
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Apparently, at least from what I can see in the video clip I’m looking at, a bystander rushed one of the terrorists in the beach, took his AK-47 after a brief struggle, and then shot him with his own gun.
Awesome.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 06:30 AM (6ydKt)
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Temp is 63 F., but it's raining lightly. Even with a rain jacket and cap, I hate working out in the rain. The stuff gets in my eyes.
I could go this afternoon. . . .
Oh, I crack myself up sometimes.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 06:30 AM (wzUl9)
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Heh. That makes sense. I make the mistake of thinking Australia has American levels of water and soil fertility.
I guess not.
Posted by: Accomack at December 14, 2025 06:25 AM (sStKZ)
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The pioneer paradigm of the US is that the bold pioneers bravely head west, braving savage tribes, wild animals and harsh conditions to successfully hack out a new life for themselves. In Australia, the bold pioneers bravely head into the outback and...die.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 14, 2025 06:31 AM (yNJrI)
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mornin yall. It's a cinch Naveed Akram is not Amish. Are there even Amish Australians?
Posted by: fd at December 14, 2025 06:31 AM (vFG9F)
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83 Heh. That makes sense. I make the mistake of thinking Australia has American levels of water and soil fertility.
I guess not.
Posted by: Accomack at December 14, 2025 06:25 AM (sStKZ)
It's a very arid place. That's why spitting into another's mouth is a polite greeting there.
Posted by: Australia Facts at December 14, 2025 06:32 AM (ZaBg9)
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87 Apparently, at least from what I can see in the video clip I’m looking at, a bystander rushed one of the terrorists in the beach, took his AK-47 after a brief struggle, and then shot him with his own gun.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 06:30 AM (6ydKt)
BBC disputes that "then shot him with his own gun":
The man leaps out and grapples with the gunman from behind, before wrestling the weapon off him. The gun goes off again as they struggle. He then pushes the attacker to the ground and turns the gun back on him. The attacker retreats.
The member of the public then puts the gun down and raises his hands - appearing to show police he is not one of the shooters.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 06:32 AM (RuTUS)
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90 mornin yall. It's a cinch Naveed Akram is not Amish. Are there even Amish Australians?
Posted by: fd at December 14, 2025 06:31 AM (vFG9F)
Alas, all the horses and buggies that attempted the voyage perished in the Pacific.
Posted by: Australia Facts at December 14, 2025 06:33 AM (ZaBg9)
94IIRR, at least one of the earliest Rathbone/Bruce Holmes films was set in the late 19th century. Once WWII broke out, they catapulted him into the present day so he could battle against Nazis.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 14, 2025
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Right, the first two Fox films, Hound of the Baskervilles and another, were set in Victorian England like Doyle's originals. Then Universal took over and established the series, and time-shifted Holmes and Watson to the then-present (1940s and onward), with modern clothes. I understand there is a scene in one film where Holmes is about to don the famous deerstalker cap. Watson chides him, and he puts on a fedora instead.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 06:33 AM (wzUl9)
Premier Chris Minns pays tribute to the man who was filmed wrestling with one of the attackers, taking their gun and forcing their retreat.
"That man is a genuine hero, and I've got no doubt there are many, many people alive tonight as a result of his bravery."
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 06:34 AM (RuTUS)
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One of the shooters id'ed as Naveed Akram. Definitely Irish
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 14, 2025 06:34 AM (D+mpw)
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One of the shooters id'ed as Naveed Akram. Definitely Irish
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 14, 2025 06:34 AM (D+mpw)
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Nah, he'd be Naveed McArkram if that was the case. I'd say Welsh. Can't trust those buggers.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 14, 2025 06:36 AM (yNJrI)
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Mrs Kletyman's husband was shot and killed trying to protect her.
Mrs Kletyman and her husband came to Australia from Ukraine and have two children and 11 grandchildren. And now Mr Kletyman is dead because of the savage death cult known as Islam.
Posted by: fd at December 14, 2025 06:36 AM (vFG9F)
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Bomb squad is in attendance now - apparently the terrorists came equipped to do more damage.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at December 14, 2025 06:37 AM (BLOW1)
Posted by: no one at December 14, 2025 06:37 AM (W7XSX)
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The man leaps out and grapples with the gunman from behind, before wrestling the weapon off him. The gun goes off again as they struggle. He then pushes the attacker to the ground and turns the gun back on him. The attacker retreats.
The member of the public then puts the gun down and raises his hands - appearing to show police he is not one of the shooters.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 06:32 AM (RuTUS)
Could be, but it looked to me like he pulled the trigger and that’s when the terrorist retreated, because it looked like the bystander was asking him if he wanted another one?
He’s a hero either way.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 06:39 AM (6ydKt)
The word Bondi, also spelt Bundi, Bundye, and Boondye, originates from the word for a loud thud, such as the sound of waves breaking over rocks, but is also associated with nulla nulla, or fighting sticks, which make a loud noise when they hit something.
The first record of bondi by European-ancestry Australians was made between 1899 and 1903.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 06:44 AM (RuTUS)
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I saw a 40s Sherlock movie that was set entirely on a train and Sherlock was looking for Nazis the entire time.
Can’t remember the title, but it always struck me as odd they had placed Holmes in modern times.
That’s one reason I never liked the Sherlock series with Cumberbatch.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 06:46 AM (6ydKt)
That Jackson Browne tune means only one thing: Fast Times at Ridgemont High
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 06:47 AM (9ipOP)
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I've said this before, and I hate it, but I'm surprised that since 10/7 there has not been suicide bombers or other mass attacks in the US against Jews. The protests at college have been thuggish but thankfully not mass casualty events. I hope and pray this isn't the beginning
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 14, 2025 06:48 AM (D+mpw)
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I saw Perth on a map and saw it's at the same latitude as San Diego, but under the equator. I wondered if it had similar climate.
Uh no. It get hot. The Indian Ocean isn't as refreshing as the Pacific where the current brings cold water down from Alaska.
Posted by: no one at December 14, 2025 06:48 AM (W7XSX)
112
We stayed on Campbell Parade when we were in Sydney last year.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 06:49 AM (9ipOP)
113
At least two gunmen, dressed in all black, armed to the teeth with shotguns and AK-47s, with bombs in their car, shooting up a Hanukkah event,
Not only does this look coordinated it also looks state-sponsored.
And it seems they had a much more deadly plan they didn’t get to carry out.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 06:52 AM (6ydKt)
That Jackson Browne tune means only one thing: Fast Times at Ridgemont High
Posted by: San Franpsycho
I had to hunt for a video that wasn't a clip from Fast Times at Ridgemont High.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at December 14, 2025 06:54 AM (BLOW1)
116I saw a 40s Sherlock movie that was set entirely on a train and Sherlock was looking for Nazis the entire time.
Can’t remember the title, but it always struck me as odd they had placed Holmes in modern times.
That’s one reason I never liked the Sherlock series with Cumberbatch.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025
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Except for the Robert Downey films, which are period pieces -- and while eccentric, give the proper homage to the source material -- most of the modern Holmes adaptations have been way off. They persist in painting Holmes as near-autistic or a sociopath, or maybe both.
The series with Jeremy Brett was an authentic adaptation of the original stories, with Brett possibly the finest Holmes ever. It was hard to top Rathbone, but he did it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 06:57 AM (wzUl9)
Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Here is a mellow introduction to the day.
This is the Stranglers Golden Brown with A/I use of David Brubeck's Take Five video and no funky harpsichord. https://youtu.be/2Qs1J612nZs
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 14, 2025 07:04 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 14, 2025 07:06 AM (u82oZ)
123
The photo at 8:03 looks like the good samaritan performing CPR on one of the gunmen:
https://archive.is/lQWQK
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 07:06 AM (RuTUS)
124
Sherlock hunting nazis - that sounds like one from the Basil Rathbone period, I’m sure it was from the war years and the British wanted it to boost the public morale.
Basil Rathbone was a good Sherlock, but the writers and producers of that era just liked the character, they didn’t see the need to be faithful to any of Conan Doyle’s stories.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 07:06 AM (k5cxK)
125
Australian Jewish Association
@AustralianJA
Statement from Australian Jewish Association CEO Robert Gregory:
"What happened tonight is a tragedy but entirely foreseeable.
The Albanese government was warned so many times but failed to take adequate actions to protect the Jewish community.
Tonight, many Jews are pondering whether they have a future in Australia.
Our thoughts are with our community and all the impacted, some of whom we are close to."
1:51 AM · Dec 14, 2025
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 07:08 AM (9ipOP)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 07:13 AM (Ia/+0)
128
The series with Jeremy Brett was an authentic adaptation of the original stories, with Brett possibly the finest Holmes ever. It was hard to top Rathbone, but he did it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 06:57 AM (wzUl9)
I should watch that series if I ever get the chance (my playlist is getting very long with all the stuff I should see).
I think he was in an 80s Hound of the Baskervilles TV movie I saw once. And that’s what really got me into liking Holmes and reading all of the stories.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 07:14 AM (6ydKt)
129
Always liked Jackson Browne even though he seems to be a putz. That Girl Could Sing is a great song
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 14, 2025 07:14 AM (D+mpw)
Be safe out there. Carry a cordless hole puncher with a caliber that starts with 4. Because racist and stupid fascist governments will not protect you.
Have a joyous Hanukkah.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 14, 2025 07:15 AM (u82oZ)
131
I drove home from work this morning. It is snowing, but it's not horrible. Big fluffy flakes, intermixed with sleet and rain, because this is Babylon DC and that is how winter rolls around here. Anyway, I just drove slowly. Got home fine.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at December 14, 2025 07:15 AM (sAmhv)
The Australian National Imams Council has issued a statement condemning the attack, calling on the country and the Australian Muslim community “to stand together in unity, compassion, and solidarity, rejecting violence in all its forms”.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 07:16 AM (RuTUS)
133
Mrs. F. will be very upset. Girl F. and SiL are due in Sydney this Friday.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 07:16 AM (9ipOP)
134
Presuming Doyle's Holmes lived into the 1940s -- -- he'd have been seventy or eighty. Imagine Ian Wolfe or even John Hoyt playing the elderly Holmes.
I like the idea; David McDaniel in one of his Man From U.N.C.L.E. novels of the Sixties has Solo and Illya meet the then-nearly-100 Holmes under his name of "William Escott." They never state who he must be, and neither does McDaniel, but the astute reader will know.
The Rainbow Affair also has Solo and Illya meet the Saint, Nayland Smith and Dr. Fu Manchu's daughter, possibly Tommy Hambledon, certainly Steed and Mrs. Peel, and more; and Thrush is trying to recruit Dr. Fu Manchu. "My race was already decadent, Englishman, when yours was staining yourselves blue."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 07:17 AM (wzUl9)
135
And I think I will wander off to bed. I'm tired. This weather makes me want to hibernate and it's not even that cold. 32, more or less. Upper midwest has it MUCH worse, cold wise.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at December 14, 2025 07:17 AM (sAmhv)
136
Perth is a nice city. I was there while on my third ship as part of the USS Carl Vinson battlegroup.
Besides the Shelias, my memory is of a used bookstore stuffed with works hard to get in America, right next to an LBG store. Got a funny post card there of a women with a sad tale of woe, and then an insensitive man's comment about her sexual availability. Sent it to my brother.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 14, 2025 07:19 AM (u82oZ)
137
The Australian National Imams Council has issued a statement condemning the attack, calling on the country and the Australian Muslim community “to stand together in unity, compassion, and solidarity, rejecting violence in all its forms”.
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*retches*
Sure, Jan.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 07:20 AM (9ipOP)
138
The crazies seem to be everywhere these days, empowered by the rhetoric of other crazies running for office or generating internet crap.
Stay alert horde.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 14, 2025 07:20 AM (OGBA8)
139Some poor loser was married to Amy Schumer for 7 years. She didn't even take his name. I suppose she has his balls though.
Posted by: fd at December 14, 2025 07:00 AM (vFG9F)
Maybe he insisted. Plausible deniability and all that. Wonder if he scores a sweet divorce settlement.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 14, 2025 07:20 AM (ExV1e)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 14, 2025 07:20 AM (u82oZ)
141Sherlock Holmes and the Secret Weapon (1942) was the film I was thinking about.
I was wrong about the train but it was about Nazis.
I caught it on Amazon Prime when it didn’t have ads so it must’ve been several years back when I saw it.
The film must be in the public domain because they’ve got the entire movie embedded in the Wikipedia page here:
https://tinyurl.com/453fepe5
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 07:20 AM (6ydKt)
142
Jeremy Brett has a moment in one of the episodes that showed how well he understood, and interpreted, the character. Holmes is facing the camera, while his client, behind him, exclaims how brilliant Holmes's solution is. The faintest of smiles crosses Brett's lips, to be wiped away as he turns and begins to speak again.
And Doyle had Watson tell us at least once that, while disdaining all such accolades, something in Holmes still responded positively to them.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 07:20 AM (wzUl9)
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137 The Australian National Imams Council has issued a statement condemning the attack, calling on the country and the Australian Muslim community “to stand together in unity, compassion, and solidarity, rejecting violence in all its forms”.
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*retches*
Sure, Jan.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 07:20 AM (9ipOP)
It beats some alternatives.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 07:21 AM (RuTUS)
Posted by: Islam Facts at December 14, 2025 07:23 AM (ZaBg9)
147It beats some alternatives.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025
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The proper alternative and response is "All Moslems, OUT! NOW! We don't care where you go, but you are to leave. NOW."
NZ should do the same. Let them all go to the jungles of New Guinea.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 07:23 AM (wzUl9)
148
Who could have seen it coming - Australia put so much effort into disarming its citizens, yet they ended up with a society much more violent and murderous than before.
Reminds me of something Churchill said about Chamberlain; “You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor; and you will have war.”
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 07:24 AM (k5cxK)
149
The Australian National Imams Council has issued a statement condemning the attack, particularly the part of the attack where the attackers would caught and identified, actions which make *intelligent* people suspicious of the Muslim community and hampers their efforts to fully integrate with Australian society by killing or enslaving all non-Muslims.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 14, 2025 07:24 AM (ExV1e)
150
Didn't get snow blower out front of the garage either but it doesn't do as well with wet snow. Nut probably better than shoveling it
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 07:24 AM (Ia/+0)
151
They've got a suspect under arrest in Rhode Island.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 14, 2025 07:25 AM (D+mpw)
152 Just made bacon & eggs, over easy, of course. No toast.
I make sammiches out of 'em, using hmaburger buns & cheese.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 07:25 AM (kjnCv)
153
I keep saying the problem with AI is not AI. It's with people who think the AI is authoritative and actually intelligent (because they want it to be) and will listen to it without question.
Posted by: GWB at December 14, 2025 07:25 AM (9Q9Z4)
154
The next two mornings will be pretty cold for here, so I may not be able to work out again until Wed. morning. I'll honestly *try* to go work out this afternoon. Temps should be in the fifties but dry.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 07:25 AM (wzUl9)
155
Internet blog commenter fd has issued a statement condemning the attack, calling on the Australian community reject Islam in all its forms.
Thank you for the update of Jim in California. Tell him we are pulling for him. But there are easier ways to meet nurses.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 14, 2025 07:27 AM (u82oZ)
157And partly because almost nobody is working towards intelligence, just bigger and shinier automated confidence tricksters. Because they don't know how to get actual AI. Because they think the brain is a supercomputer, not something wholly different from a calculator.
Posted by: GWB at December 14, 2025 07:27 AM (9Q9Z4)
158Just made bacon & eggs, over easy, of course. No toast.
I make sammiches out of 'em, using hmaburger buns & cheese.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025
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For me, breakfast was a scrambled seasoned egg with cheese, a beef & bean burrito, and one mini-croissant with some butter and honey.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 07:27 AM (wzUl9)
159
And Doyle had Watson tell us at least once that, while disdaining all such accolades, something in Holmes still responded positively to them.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 07:20 AM (wzUl9)
Jeremy Brett was a master at showing these fleeting emotions, only for a second before he wipes them away.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 07:28 AM (k5cxK)
160
And I think I will wander off to bed. I'm tired. This weather makes me want to hibernate and it's not even that cold. 32, more or less. Upper midwest has it MUCH worse, cold wise.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at December 14, 2025 07:17 AM (sAmhv)
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It's a balmy 5F here (south-central MO), with a wind chill of -13F.
161
Islam is a political system pretending to be a religion.
Socialism is religion pretending to be a political system. Socialism replaces God with The State.
Except for the fagophone of socialist democrats, the two are almost identical in goals and means.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 14, 2025 07:29 AM (u82oZ)
162
153 I keep saying the problem with AI is not AI. It's with people who think the AI is authoritative and actually intelligent (because they want it to be) and will listen to it without question.
Posted by: GWB at December 14, 2025 07:25 AM (9Q9Z4)
I think everyone is finding out that AI is pretty easy to trick, if you know it’s going for o be involved. It makes obvious mistakes that humans would catch in an instant.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 07:30 AM (k5cxK)
163
Either there is something wrong with my thermometer or it's 58 degrees here.
Posted by: fd at December 14, 2025 07:31 AM (vFG9F)
164
153 I keep saying the problem with AI is not AI. It's with people who think the AI is authoritative and actually intelligent (because they want it to be) and will listen to it without question.
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That's true, but it's honestly a broader problem (especially with "democracy"). Humans spent the vast bulk of their existence in a situation where 90% of people were peasants or manual laborers. Then in the 19th Century people got the bright idea that all adult men could make decisions for themselves, and in the early 20th Century this was extended to women. The NPCs have been with us ever since, gobbling down nonsense, it's just that AI produces stuff that is manifestly nonsense, and social media makes moron behavior immediately obvious as well. These are evolutionary rather than revolutionary changes. People who hand wrote letters and watched Walter Cronkite were honestly no better off.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 14, 2025 07:31 AM (UdiE9)
Ya know, the powers that be have a plan for you. In the words of that great scholar, Mike Tyson, "Every one has a plan until they get punched in the mouth."
Head on a swivel and have a SecWar Hegseth plan.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 14, 2025 07:32 AM (u82oZ)
166
The series with Jeremy Brett was an authentic adaptation of the original stories, with Brett possibly the finest Holmes ever. It was hard to top Rathbone, but he did it.
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Rathbone was the greatest and made Sherlock accessible, however 'eccentric'. I like the Cumberbatch series the best because Watson is an equal character and his friendship with the oddity makes sense. I judge by Watsons, not Holmeses.
Posted by: mustbequantum at December 14, 2025 07:32 AM (lL6v/)
167
I was promised the Polar caps would be ice free by now
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 07:32 AM (Ia/+0)
Remind me again, what's the "secret" to "fluffy" eggs?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 07:33 AM (kjnCv)
169
People who hand wrote letters and watched Walter Cronkite were honestly no better off.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 14, 2025 07:31 AM (UdiE9)
And that's the way it is...
Posted by: Zombie Walter Cronkite, closeted homosexual and communist at December 14, 2025 07:34 AM (R/m4+)
170
157
Because they don't know how to get actual AI. Because they think the brain is a supercomputer, not something wholly different from a calculator.
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True, and that's before we get to the distinction between the brain and the mind. I'm not sure that you need to believe in a soul to understand the difference, but it certainly helps, and these techno-futurists don't believe in souls. Many of them legitimately think that a person is just a certain arrangement of molecules, and if you assembled a bunch of molecules in the same way, you'd get the same person (think transporters in Star Trek).
Posted by: the lower depths at December 14, 2025 07:34 AM (UdiE9)
171Holmes's obsessive and depressive personality fascinated and frightened Brett. In many ways Holmes's personality resembled the actor's own, with outbursts of passionate energy followed by periods of lethargy. It became difficult for him to let go of Holmes after work. He had always been told that the only way for an actor to stay sane was for him to leave his part behind at the end of the day, but Brett started dreaming about Holmes, and the dreams turned into nightmares. Brett began to refer to Holmes as "You Know Who" or simply "HIM".
Terry Manners' 2001 book on Brett in the role provides some of Brett's thoughts:
"Watson describes You Know Who as a mind without a heart, which is hard to play. Hard to become. So what I have done is invent an inner life." Brett invented an imaginary life of Holmes to fill the hollowness of Holmes's "missing heart", his empty emotional life. He imagined: "... what You Know Who's nanny looked like. She was covered in starch. I don't think he saw his mother until he was about eight years old ..." etc.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Brett
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 07:34 AM (6ydKt)
172
Lovely dawn this morning, wet snow falling gently and all our trees weighed down a bit with snow. Looks like four or five inches. Coffee and a fire seems pretty civilized. Prayers up for all those in Providence and Sydney afflicted by the violent nutjobs.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 14, 2025 07:35 AM (qncWG)
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 07:35 AM (RuTUS)
174
NaCly Dog, Hope your OPM matter is resolved soon. BTW. Retirees can resolve many matters thru the OPM retirement services website. Access requires signing up.
Posted by: Mrs JTB at December 14, 2025 07:35 AM (yTvNw)
175
There are pictures on X of the Providence mayor and his 'husband". I'm not sure what it says but I doubt it's good
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 14, 2025 07:36 AM (D+mpw)
176
The most unusual Holmes movie I’ve seen is The Seven-Percent Solution (1976) where Watson takes Holmes to see Sigmund Freud who helps cure Holmes of his cocaine addiction.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 07:37 AM (6ydKt)
177 I am now downloading 41 episodes of Granada TV's "Adventures of Sherlock Holmes."
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 07:40 AM (kjnCv)
178
Sherlock Holmes Smarter Brother was a dopey movie but it had some funny bits
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 14, 2025 07:40 AM (D+mpw)
179
I thought Australia outlawed guns? How'd the headchoppers get them?
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at December 14, 2025 07:40 AM (cxFcK)
180
Most of yesterday was spent prototyping a case blender for the Quark mini Linux computer and creating aliases and zsh helper functions.
Who knew you could spend and hour figuring out how you want your backup time stamp formatted.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 14, 2025 07:41 AM (XV/Pl)
181
BBC's playing the video of the hero tackling a perp.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 07:41 AM (RuTUS)
182
Regarding Sherlock Holmes, I'll throw in my two cents:
Basil Rathbone would have been the greatest Holmes had he not been hampered with subpar scripts and Nigel Bruce's bumbling portrayal of Watson.
Jeremy Brett was great in his first season as Holmes, but he got more oddly eccentric as time went (after his wife died). The adaptations remained pretty faithful, other than two quite horrible movie length episodes called "The Eligible Bachelor" and "The Last Vampyre". But in the last season of the program Brett was so unwell that Watson and Mycroft had to solve mysteries for him (thankfully Charles Gray was a great Mycroft).
My favorite Holmes adaptations were made by the Soviet Union (though they have no Commie content). If you don't mind subtitles, try them out https://tinyurl.com/bdcs4r2m
Posted by: the lower depths at December 14, 2025 07:41 AM (UdiE9)
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181 BBC's playing the video of the hero tackling a perp.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 07:41 AM (RuTUS)
Buy that man a beer!
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 07:42 AM (RuTUS)
I wanted to ask him Who Is This?
She sure is a swell looking dame:
https://is.gd/cQmgXU
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 07:43 AM (kjnCv)
185The most unusual Holmes movie I’ve seen is The Seven-Percent Solution (1976) where Watson takes Holmes to see Sigmund Freud who helps cure Holmes of his cocaine addiction.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025
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Based on the novel by Nicholas Meyer, who would later move on to movie directing (Wrath of Khan).
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 07:44 AM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 07:44 AM (Ia/+0)
187
Yes, the snow on the trees is lovely, and snow brings to mind when our son was a little boy and he used to go sledding with his dad. Such fun!
Please say a prayer, if you would be so kind , for FenSpouse who woke up about two o'clock with gout. He had some pills and is beginning to feel a bit better but still hobbling around. Thanks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 14, 2025 07:44 AM (ix8EF)
Posted by: Just Wondering at December 14, 2025 07:45 AM (2Ez/1)
190
Our birdbath broke. Right in the middle of the column. Brokeback Birdbath.
Posted by: fd at December 14, 2025 07:46 AM (vFG9F)
191
BBC warns that the 28-second video of the hero tackling a perp "Contains some upsetting scenes."
Not really!
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 07:47 AM (RuTUS)
192 He had some pills and is beginning to feel a bit better but still hobbling around. Thanks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
Never had gout. But I know it's no fun.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 07:49 AM (kjnCv)
193
The original Magnificent Seven is on Grit at 2 pm Central today.
"Men you step aside for: None."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 07:52 AM (wzUl9)
194
Netflix has the movies with the girl from Stranger Things playing Sherlock’s long lost American sister; Enola Holmes
There is also the sequel,
I wasn’t that impressed after about 30 minutes in and never finished watching it.
I’d rather see the Robert Downey Jr. version, honestly.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 07:52 AM (6ydKt)
195
There was a rabbi among the people murdered in Sydney. Rabbi Eli Schlanger.
Bethany S. Mandel retweeted
Lahav Harkov 🎗️
@LahavHarkov
1h
The rabbi who was murdered today in Sydney
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 07:53 AM (RuTUS)
196
Based on the novel by Nicholas Meyer, who would later move on to movie directing (Wrath of Khan).
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 07:44 AM (wzUl9)
I knew it was based on the book, but had no idea he was the director of Kahn.
Probably the best ST movie ever.
They should have hired him to do the 90s series.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 07:55 AM (6ydKt)
197
Ok Mrs. F. is awake I need to get to her before she gets to her iPad.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 07:56 AM (A0sqA)
198
Guy Ritchie, who directed the Downey Holmes films, respected the source material. There are, I understand, a lot of callbacks to the original stories. Plus, his Watson, Jude Law, is shown as a young man -- which he would have been when he came back from Afghanistan -- and is smart too, as I recall.
I loved Ritchie's Man From U.N.C.L.E. film, and wish there could have been a sequel showing the organization from the TV series.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 07:57 AM (wzUl9)
199
Just looked up Nicholas Meyer. His daughter is married to Kristen Stewart, who's looking a bit haggard these days
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 14, 2025 07:58 AM (D+mpw)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 07:59 AM (A0sqA)
201 I knew it was based on the book, but had no idea he was the director of Kahn.
Probably the best ST movie ever.
They should have hired him to do the 90s series.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025
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Meyer said, I believe, that in the early '80s he wanted to branch out and do something other than Holmes stories (I *think* he wrote a sequel to Seven Per Cent; not sure). He proved to be a superb director, at least with that movie.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 07:59 AM (wzUl9)
Posted by: fd at December 14, 2025 07:59 AM (vFG9F)
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Yeah I like Jude Law’s Watson the most.
He’s a bad ass normal dude instead of a goofball second fiddle he’s been portrayed as so often.
Sherlock is the weirdo in those films.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 08:00 AM (6ydKt)
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Meyer directed both The Wrath of Khan and The Undiscovered Country. He was one of the screenwriters on The Voyage Home. Pretty good Trek bona fides
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 14, 2025 08:00 AM (D+mpw)
205
FYI on a summer Sunday Bondi Beach is packed.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 07:59 AM (A0sqA)
Probably more so today as they were celebrating the first day of Hanukkah.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 08:02 AM (6ydKt)
206
Bethany S. Mandel retweeted
Piers Morgan
@piersmorgan
2h
This was the event that was targeted - a family celebration ‘for all ages’ for the Jewish festival of Hanukkah.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 08:02 AM (RuTUS)
207
Nicholas Meyer also wrote the screenplay for Time After Time, the H.G. Wells time-travel adventure, and adapted Philip Roth's novel The Human Stain -- a very different kind of film from the SF stories and Holmes pastiches.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 08:03 AM (wzUl9)
208
Nice. The Undiscovered Country is my second fav ST film.
It’s a mystery novel masquerading as a sci-fi flick.
Meyer really should’ve been directing some of the tv series then.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 08:04 AM (6ydKt)
209
Meyer also directed Time After Time and Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 08:04 AM (wzUl9)
Hundreds of residents of a Michigan community formed a human chain to help a local bookshop move each of its 9,100 books, one by one, to a new storefront located about a block away
X video: https://bit.ly/4qaj521
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 08:09 AM (P5BPp)
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= Mrs. F., presumably.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 08:09 AM (RuTUS)
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Yeah. Something tells me the armor gets cleaned today.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 08:10 AM (A0sqA)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 08:12 AM (Ia/+0)
217 How can someone's "daughter" be "married" to kristin stewart?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 08:13 AM (kjnCv)
218
Meyer also had at least one other Holmes novel, The West End Horror. Since Jack the Ripper did his work, I think, in the eastern parts of London, I doubt that one is about Holmes vs. the Ripper.
After quick research: Yes, it has to do with London's theatre district, and features an appearance by George Bernard Shaw.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 08:13 AM (wzUl9)
219
Bonchie
@bonchieredstate
2m
You’re about to see the cowards who run Australia bend over backwards to not call a spade a spade.
Wouldn’t surprise me if the PM is talking Islamophobia by Monday.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 08:13 AM (RuTUS)
220How can someone's "daughter" be "married" to kristin stewart?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025
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Forget it, Jake, it's 2025 Hollywood.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 08:14 AM (wzUl9)
It turns out that Democrats are not only conspiring with NGOs on illegal immigration, but they are also conspiring with NGOs to sabotage elections:
Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson says voter data is a state secret — yet not only is she giving the data to NGOs, she is also paying them. All at the taxpayers’ expense.
-- Once ERIC gets the voter data, it sends it out to another nonprofit called the Center for Election Innovation & Research, or CEIR.
-- The link between ERIC and CEIR is David Becker, a liberal racketeer and their founder.
It gets worse — much worse:
In 2020, Becker’s CEIR bribes Jocelyn Benson through her own nonprofit with $12 million on the eve of the election.
The rest is history: welcome to November 3, 2020 — the day your government was overthrown.
So you see, non-governmental organizations are effectively government-funded terrorist organizations.
X video: https://bit.ly/4rWMIFI
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 08:15 AM (P5BPp)
Gunther Fehlinger-Jahn
@GunterFehlinger
Dec 13
I want a EU that strikes fear in Hearts of our enemies
A EU built by Steel & AI
A EU with a heart of Iron 5.0
A EU that lets your fire rise
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 08:15 AM (RuTUS)
223
Have another 16oz coffee, and cognac if I need it
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 08:15 AM (Ia/+0)
224
I'm sure Palestine Penny is pleased with her work.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 08:16 AM (A0sqA)
225
Gunther Fehlinger-Jahn
@GunterFehlinger
Chairman Austrian Committee for NATO enlargement
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 08:17 AM (RuTUS)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 08:17 AM (Ia/+0)
227That’s the one where HG Wells ends up in modern San Francisco and hooks up with a young and cute Mary Steenburgen.
I must’ve watched that movie 20 times as a kid.
I was fascinated by it for some reason I can’t explain now.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025
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It's exciting and well done; McDowell plays a good guy for once (I seem to recall him mostly as villains); Mary is cute; and David Warner is *very* impressive as the Ripper. (According to IMDb, the studio wanted, get this, *Mick Jagger* to play the Ripper!)
Meyer wanted Derek Jacobi, not too long after his I, Claudius triumph, to play H.G. Wells, but the studio said no; so Meyer went with McDowell.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 08:17 AM (wzUl9)
228
Gunther Fehlinger-Jahn
@GunterFehlinger
Dec 13
I want a EU that strikes fear in Hearts of our enemies
A EU built by Steel & AI
A EU with a heart of Iron 5.0
A EU that lets your fire rise
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 08:15 AM (RuTUS)
Good luck on that.
The only thing the EU will do is tax it to death, surrender it to the Caliphate, and then gag it so it can’t complain about it.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 08:19 AM (6ydKt)
229 Did you Rodney & Malcolm McDowell, whom I always thought were brothers, aren't even related? It gets worse (for me), they don't even spell their names the same!
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 08:19 AM (kjnCv)
the cocksucking electric company is working on the power lines....TODAY...
Power keeps cutting out. All week I've had to reset all the clocks. FUCKING JERKS.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 08:23 AM (kjnCv)
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They tried to turn Mick Jagger into a movie star a lot,
He plays the Aussie outlaw Ned Kelly in one film.
I know he was in a few other movie, too.
I guess it didn’t pan out so he went back to the Stones in the mid-80s.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 08:25 AM (6ydKt)
234
We'd just like to point out that nobody from our organization has been arrested today.
Posted by: University of Michigan Athletic Department at December 14, 2025 08:25 AM (8AONa)
235
Does anybody really believe that if a blue state democrat governor or mayor is arrested for violating federal immigration laws an activist judge won't dismiss the charges?
Posted by: Ordinary American at December 14, 2025 08:25 AM (WHfpM)
236
2 gunmen hit, one well before the 2nd was.
2nd wounded who when surrounded quickly raises his hands up.
Would have capped him.anyway
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 08:25 AM (Ia/+0)
237
"(Greene) was working on a documentary called "From the American People: The Withdrawal of USAID," producing and narrating it alongside Jason Alexander and Kathleen Turner."
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What a shame that project's not going forward 🙄
Posted by: jus' turrible at December 14, 2025 08:26 AM (BI5O2)
238
Ordinary American- I would put money on it a Commissar Judge would let them off.
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 08:26 AM (Ia/+0)
239
Let me guess.
1. An isolated incident
2. Violence is unacceptable
3. We really can't know the motive
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 08:28 AM (9ipOP)
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 08:29 AM (RuTUS)
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239 Let me guess.
1. An isolated incident
2. Violence is unacceptable
3. We really can't know the motive
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 08:28 AM (9ipOP)
4. Diversity is our strength.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 08:29 AM (6ydKt)
245the ... electric company is working on the power lines....TODAY...
Power keeps cutting out. All week I've had to reset all the clocks.
Expect to see a sudden rise in adverts from Generac and whole house backup generators in your emails, texts and "random" ads that appear in websites you visit.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 14, 2025 08:31 AM (a4flb)
246
Don't forget:
5. Neighbors say he was just turning his life around.
6. And was on his way to a Bible study.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 14, 2025 08:31 AM (2Ez/1)
247
"We stand with Jewish Australians at this time."
-PM Albanese
No, thanks.
Go stand over there. In the corner where you belong you sack of sh*t.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 08:32 AM (9ipOP)
https://nitter.net/TRobinsonNewEra
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 08:29 AM (RuTUS)
... in the comments under the post "Everything that happened in bondi beach"
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 08:32 AM (RuTUS)
250 Does anybody really believe that if a blue state democrat governor or mayor is arrested for violating federal immigration laws an activist judge won't dismiss the charges?
Now you are beginning to understand the evils of blue slip Senatorial vetos.
It applies not only to judges but US Attorneys. That is, it won't be tossed out by a judge because there won't even be a prosecutor to file the charges.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 14, 2025 08:33 AM (a4flb)
251
Let me guess.
1. An isolated incident
2. Violence is unacceptable
3. We really can't know the motive
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 08:28 AM (9ipOP)
4. Diversity is our strength.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 08:29 AM (6ydKt)
Don't forget:
5.) Could this attack be the fault of the Jews?
Posted by: Australian Question Askers at December 14, 2025 08:33 AM (BI5O2)
Posted by: Oliver Wendell Douglas at December 14, 2025 08:38 AM (fX1tL)
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>>We'd just like to point out that nobody from our organization has been arrested today
Give it time. It's not even 9 a.m. in Ann Arbor
Posted by: one hour sober at December 14, 2025 08:43 AM (Y1sOo)
259
I ordered a couple of things from a business in TX. I needed to make a change, and the AI customer service system kept asking for nonexistent data to complete the change.
I finally got in touch with a human, but one more email from AI and I would have cancelled the order.
I think AI has its place, but over-reliance is going to bite some companies squarely in the ass.
260
CNN article on person of interest being taken into custody in Brown shooting. What is the purpose of the last sentence:
"Video captured exclusively by CNN shows law enforcement gathered in the hotel hallway and parking lot overnight, and CNN witnessed law enforcement agents entering one of the hotel rooms.
A woman staying on the same floor of the hotel in Coventry, Rhode Island, said she was scared."
https://tinyurl.com/4hyccbj4
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 14, 2025 08:49 AM (XvL8K)
It's about 5F here this morning with a "wind chill" temperature of around -7F. There's a strange obsession to open the door and see what that feels like.
I'll resist it for now.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 14, 2025 08:51 AM (NwnyJ)
262
Performance is the one where Jagger plays a rock star
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 14, 2025 08:52 AM (+mUZM)
AI wrote it, probably.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts
_________
Must be. Seems totally rando to include such an obvious observation.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 14, 2025 08:55 AM (XvL8K)
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260 CNN article on person of interest being taken into custody in Brown shooting. What is the purpose of the last sentence:
"Video captured exclusively by CNN shows law enforcement gathered in the hotel hallway and parking lot overnight, and CNN witnessed law enforcement agents entering one of the hotel rooms.
A woman staying on the same floor of the hotel in Coventry, Rhode Island, said she was scared."
https://tinyurl.com/4hyccbj4
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 14, 2025 08:49 AM (XvL8K)
feelz
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 08:56 AM (RuTUS)
268
Expect the authorities in Australia to crack down even harder on online comments after this.
I know a lot on the right are still protective of the British monarchy as it's traditionalist and a bulwark against Jacobin ideals and believe it's just a figurehead anyway, but it's really interesting to me that the Anglosphere nations that have the most severe crackdowns on speech while allowing their societies to be perforated by Islamism are the UK, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, all of whom have that dork on their currency.
I'd say we give Prince Billy a choice -- depose your father and kick him out of the country, or when the monarchy is inevitably disposed, he and his little princes and princess can join Charles in the gibbets.
Every son needs to be ready to depose his father. I had to to save my family.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 14, 2025 08:56 AM (qwx/I)
269
There's a strange obsession to open the door and see what that feels like."
Heh. We had just moved to an area with occasional tornadoes. 4 days later there's an alert. I grab stuff and the dogs, head into sub basement.
Mrs and youngest proceed to head out the front door to, and I quote "see what the excitement is for "...
Sigh.
Posted by: man at December 14, 2025 08:56 AM (XuXeR)
270
I've watched several reports on the shooting at Brown.
They are giving zero information.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 14, 2025 08:57 AM (9ipOP)
271
not verified, I don't think, and oddly worded, but:
Australian media confirm that 43-year-old Ahmed al Ahmed was the heroic man who tackled one of the Bondi Beach shooters, risking his life.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 08:57 AM (RuTUS)
272
Bring your reading glasses and head upstairs
BOOK NOOD
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 08:58 AM (Ia/+0)
273 FBI is busy scrubbing Internet trail, and protecting familly & friends of the shooter, I suspect.
You know, the usual FBI M.O.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 14, 2025 09:00 AM (kjnCv)
274
Australian media confirm that 43-year-old Ahmed al Ahmed was the heroic man who tackled one of the Bondi Beach shooters, risking his life.
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 08:57 AM (RuTUS)
The guy in the video is big, burly, with dark hair and skin, so it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s a Muslim, too,
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 14, 2025 09:03 AM (6ydKt)
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 14, 2025 09:03 AM (2Ez/1)
276
Nood from CBD about the Australian shooting. He says the Book Thread will be along in about half an hour.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 09:06 AM (wzUl9)
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276 Nood from CBD about the Australian shooting. He says the Book Thread will be along in about half an hour.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 14, 2025 09:06 AM (wzUl9)
Thanks!
Posted by: m at December 14, 2025 09:07 AM (RuTUS)
Brave Aussie man attacks armed terrorist at Holocaust attack, disarms him. Hero:
X video: https://bit.ly/4pAA0e2
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 14, 2025 09:08 AM (P5BPp)
279
In the 50th anniversary issue of Detective comics, Batman meets Sherlock Holmes.
https://crossover.bureau42.com/zbatmanholmes.html
Posted by: Epobirs at December 14, 2025 09:10 AM (/0z9K)
280
The ability of AI to generate plausible results is probably its most dangerous attributes. In any setting with complex hardware and software interactions, it’s already difficult to keep the system from becoming a black box. Using software designed to appear accurate without adequate checks on I/O makes this much worse.
Posted by: Advo at December 14, 2025 10:17 AM (jO4mz)
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GNOME's rules also forbid Trump voters from submitting code, and you may soon have to submit proof of gayness to get PRs accepted. So don't cheer them too much.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 14, 2025 11:14 AM (Aqf1y)
Saturday Night "Club ONT" December 13, 2025 [The 3 Ds]
Welcome to the first Club ONT Christmas Party. Brought to you by a collaboration the 3D's - The Disco, The Dino, and The Doggo. Special shout out to Club friend, commenter, and bartender extraordinaire, JQ for the decorating.
We have music, ugly sweaters, questionably strong drinks, a wobbly table, snacks, and some fun content. Tonight is about good friends, good company, and making memories.
JQ spiffy'd the place up a bit. [doggo says] Please note the proper white lights have been deployed.
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[Disco says: They're nice but not as festive as colored lights. I'm not wearing freshly pressed khakis, a fine linen shirt, and penny loafers, so not sure I belong in those areas of the Club. I'll hang out where I won't be judged for wearing well-worn jeans, an ugly seater, and scuffed-up boots.]
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Hobo Santa will be setting up in one of these locations this evening. You'd think he'd be drinking a peppermint martini or hot buttered rum. Nope, straight for the bourbon. Keep the interns away if he brings up "North Pole After Hours."
Did someone pick up the Santa suit from the dry cleaners?
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Did you bring your gift? The White Elephant gift exchange will be held on the patio. Where re-gifting (which we'll talk about below) and/or stealing becomes all out warfare. Like Hunger Games. Or an MLB draft war room.
Funniest this D has seen was someone wrapped a Playgirl magazine. Which was amusing enough as a hetero guy got it first. The laughs grew (no pun - but should be) as the gifter had removed all the "special" pages. Here is a link to some pretty good ones. What about the Horde? Best White Elephant moments?
2. Dancing animatronic Christmas dolls. The weirder, the better. One year we received a be-bopping fuzzball with ogling eyes and a beak that dances and sings to the tune of "Deck the Halls" in a jazz voice.
3. A selection of Christmas Carols on 8 track or cassette tape.
4. Self-help or promotional video tapes or audio cassettes from the 1970s.
To kick off the White Elephant gift game, whoever has comment number 56, please collect the first gift (pictured below) - your very own Kamala Harris bobblehead, courtesy of the 3D's. You can keep it or select another gift from the table. (Don't mind that large present that suspiciously looks like a 39 foot dinosaur.)
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Saturday Night Jokes and Other Funnies
What is a vegan's favorite Christmas song? Soy to the World.
What do you call a Christmas themed stripper? Holly Daze.
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There was a man who worked for the Post Office whose job was to process all the mail that had illegible addresses.
One day, a letter came addressed in shaky handwriting to God with no address. He thought he should open it to see what it was about. The letter read: Dear God, I am an 83-year-old widow, living on a very small pension. Yesterday someone stole my purse. It had £100 in it, which was all the money I had until my next pension cheque. Next Sunday is Christmas, and I had invited two of my friends over for dinner. Without that money, I have nothing to buy food with. I have no family to turn to, and you are my only hope. Can you please help me? Sincerely, Edna.
The postal worker was touched. He showed the letter to all the other workers. Each one dug into his or her wallet and came up with a few pounds. By the time he made the rounds, he had collected £96, which they put into an envelope and sent to the woman. For the rest of the day, all the workers felt a warm glow, thinking of Edna and the dinner she would be able to share with her friends. Christmas came and went.
A few days later, another letter came from the same old lady to God. All the workers gathered around while the letter was opened. It read: Dear God, How can I ever thank you enough for what you did for me? Because of your gift of love, I was able to fix a glorious dinner for my friends. We had a very nice day and I told my friends of your wonderful gift. By the way, £ 4 was missing. I think it must have been those halfwits at the Post Office!
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Drinks of the Night
Tonight we proudly feature a big ol' cauldron of Jingle Juice!
Step 1
Rub rims of glasses with lime wedges. Dip into sugar until coated.
Step 2
In a punch bowl, combine Moscato, Prosecco, Cran-Apple juice, cranberries, vodka, mint, and lime rounds. Divide among prepared glasses.
Combine sparkling wine, pear nectar, and orange bitters in a punch bowl. Top with an ice ring (optional). Serve with strips of orange zest.
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Ugly Sweaters
Here's the one Disco is wearing tonight
Yes, the flask is full. Guess what bourbon is in the flask (brand and proof) and you'll win a date with Hobo Santa!
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White Elephant time again!
Comment #99 - you're up. Come collect this fine piece of fashion!
"It's a beaut, Clark!"
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A large animatronic TRex in a Christmas sweater? Of course! Those wacky Brits...
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Club ONT Christmas Party Games
Club Bingo. Take a drink any time one of the items on the grid is mentioned in the comments.
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What was the one Christmas gift you hoped and prayed would show up under the tree? And it did! What did you get?
Three Holy Grail gifts for the 3D's. Large Millennium Falcon, Labeda Mark V roller skate wheels, Big Wheel. For 3 restroom tokens, correctly match the D to their childhood obsession. Then share your best in the comments.
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Club ONT Naughty List
Is it really naughty? Or is it brilliance - regifting isn't tacky - it is efficient.
My Mom was given two adorable stuffed bears for her birthday in November by a co-worker. She thought they were cute, but she felt "silly being a 60 year old woman with stuffed animals" So they were put away and not seen again, until a year later when I opened my Xmas present. A beautiful gift basket and the basket were the bears. I almost died laughing, my reaction was "Mom?!?!? You’re a regifter????" to which she simply said, "why not, I would never have them out and I know you liked them and would display them somewhere.” She was right of course, but I was still floored, who knew Mom was a regifter? It simply wasn't possible. Not my Mom. I lost her 2 years later and those two little bears (one an Angel bear) now mean the world to me. I look at them every day and am so glad Mom was a regifter. I know that Angel bear in particular is my Mom watching over me and letting me know everything is ok. I was never a regifter, but I believe in it now.
Fess up. Who has re-gifted a Christmas present?
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Work Christmas Party horror stories? Surely there will be a few in the comments!
Confession 6: “No idea what happened, but I woke up on a train in Edinburgh (from Birmingham).”
Confession 13. “I stole my boss’s desk plant. I still have it, I’ve just never had the guts to give it back. He’s sent angry emails around and everything.”
Club ONT was brought to you by: Christmas in the 1970s
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Don't forget to pick up your 2025 Club ONT Christmas Party Commemorative Plate before you leave:
NOTICE: While the commemorative plates are free to all guests, we do need a way to help offset the cost of tonight's party. As such, The Club is offering these Limited Edition Commemorative Coins for purchase!
They are available for $20 (same as in town).
But wait - there's more!
Each coin also serves as a "master token" at Club restrooms. That's right - you'll never have to purchase a Club ONT restroom token ever again!
But we're not done yet!!
Each coin entitles the bearer to a free "Club ONT Crypto Coin"! No, those don't exist yet, but when they do - WOOHOO, you'll be sittin' pretty!
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Club ONT regrets the absence of live music for the Club ONT Christmas Party. Arrangements were made for Missile Toe and the South Pole Elves to play the party. you might know their smash hits "Batteries not Included" and "Who left the $%&@$* Legos on the floor?" Unfortunately, Missile Toe ran into transit problems and the Elves are apparently striking for more marshmallows. In related news, plays on the jukebox are free tonight.
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Does anybody else think that the only proper pose for a Kamala Harris bobblehead is in her knees?
Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:07 PM (R256O)
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Club Bingo. Take a drink any time one of the items on the grid is mentioned in the comments.
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Do you intend to overload the ER with alcohol-poisoned morons?
Posted by: clarence at December 13, 2025 10:07 PM (sdF4j)
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Fess up. Who has re-gifted a Christmas present?
Why not? You have three options: keep it and never use it and have the gifter ask where it is; throw it away unused, break it. Seems regifting is the superior option.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 10:08 PM (uQesX)
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‘ Does anybody else think that the only proper pose for a Kamala Harris bobblehead is in her knees?’
It works. You just push down on her head and her mouth opens.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 10:09 PM (fd80v)
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Nice party, Ds! The Jingle Juice is tasty. I will hang out in the colored light area with other weirdoes, hobos and odd ducks.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 10:10 PM (6p0Jv)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:12 PM (OWovX)
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Thank you for all the past year of Club ONT! The 3Ds do know how to bring it!
(Puts $1.73 in tip jar)
Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:14 PM (TfUTr)
19What was the one Christmas gift you hoped and prayed would show up under the tree? And it did! What did you get?
The Navaronne.
If your having WWII problems I feel sorry for you, son. I got 99 problems, but lack of Navaronne ain't one.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 13, 2025 10:14 PM (mFz+I)
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Kamala Harris bobblehead is the wrong suit color, it's got to be brown, gotta be a brown suit. She wore the brown pant suit all the time during the campaign. Ugh.
Posted by: Joemarine at December 13, 2025 10:15 PM (y171U)
Yeah, even the Brits know that. L3wis, the Jolly boys, and Mr. and Mrs. H say it's nowhere near as good as American cooking.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 10:15 PM (uQesX)
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They're nice but not as festive as colored lights. I'm not wearing freshly pressed khakis, a fine linen shirt, and penny loafers, so not sure I belong in those areas of the Club. I'll hang out where I won't be judged for wearing well-worn jeans, an ugly seater, and scuffed-up boots
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*side eye*
Who let him in?
/to herself
Posted by: Melissa Cutherbertson-Klein from Groton, CT at December 13, 2025 10:15 PM (OWovX)
23To kick off the White Elephant gift game, whoever has comment number 56, please collect the first gift (pictured below) - your very own Kamala Harris bobblehead
That's okay...my sister already gave me a Hilary Clinton big-assed figurine for my birthday one year...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:15 PM (ynpvh)
2410 Does anybody else think that the only proper pose for a Kamala Harris bobblehead is in her knees?
Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:07 PM (R256O)
Yes! And if it's made out of the right kind of plastic you could probably cut the feet off of the base, apply some heat to the knee region, bend the legs back to the appropriate angle, let it cool, then glue it back onto the base on it's knees. Maybe also modify the head bobble mechanism so it only bobbles forward and back.
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Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 10:16 PM (X5Jzz)
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I stayed up late just to see this, and it was well worth it. Enjoy the party, you people who can stay up later than I! Had a busy day of baking, more tomorrow.
Posted by: bluebell at December 13, 2025 10:16 PM (79pEw)
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Thanks for the dandy Club ONT Christmas Party, Disco, Doggo and Dino!
The place looks fabulous!
Par-tay!!!
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 13, 2025 10:17 PM (kB9dk)
27What was the one Christmas gift you hoped and prayed would show up under the tree? And it did! What did you get?
Golf clubs. Got the cheapest Jr set in the world (Delta? Guess they don't just make faucets). I used the hell out of them and still had the putter until a decade ago. I was mid teens when I got them (15-16).
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 10:17 PM (rii+a)
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 10:17 PM (gbOdA)
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Most of the day was spent prototyping a case in blender for the Quark Mini Linux computer and 3D printing it, and also creating terminal aliases and zsh helper functions.
Who knew you could spend an hour deciding how you want your backup time stamp formatted.
And now I am having some bourbon and sour patch gummies.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 13, 2025 10:17 PM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: Moonbeam at December 13, 2025 10:17 PM (rbKZ6)
31‘Does anybody else think that the only proper pose for a Kamala Harris bobblehead is in her knees?’
It works. You just push down on her head and her mouth opens.
Posted by: Dr. Claw
The spring should really be mounted horizontally, not vertically.
Posted by: mikeski at December 13, 2025 10:17 PM (nhCoE)
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Looking at that seventies photo I literally first thought I must have sent it in and forgot. Probably the washed out colors. But the television set helped.
I think Ive regifted only once. I generally only give gifts that the person has actually asked for or which I could imagine enjoying and using myself. A regift implies something I dont want, and Im not going to give something that I wouldnt want.
I tend to feel the same way about potlucks. I wont bring anything I wouldnt enjoy. I always wonder at people who say, oh I cant/won't eat that but I thought you guys might.
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That's okay...my sister already gave me a Hilary Clinton big-assed figurine for my birthday one year...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:15 PM (ynpvh)
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When Obama was president, my husband got our friend's daughter to surreptitiously slip an Obama chia pet kit under the tree for him. Drove our friend crazy for weeks wondering who it was from until my husband finally confessed.
Posted by: bluebell at December 13, 2025 10:19 PM (79pEw)
36
I had to send my iPad back to Apple. This is not great news. I will just sit at the bar and casually swing my legs until someone notices my shoes.
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:19 PM (ZdaMQ)
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I am way too late, but this is early for me, Merry Christmas Horde, good to see you. Thank you to JQ and the three D's, its party time!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 13, 2025 10:19 PM (0nHVk)
38 My white elephant gift is a 3/8" socket that I've marked 10mm. We'll see if anyone notices.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 13, 2025 10:20 PM (QVmho)
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"In related news, plays on the jukebox are free tonight."
Sneaks up to jukebox.
Plays "Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer."
Plays it again.
Then again.
Repeat 15 times.
Plays Lindsey Sterling's "Carol of the Bells"
Plays "Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer" five more times.
*I will not be offsetting anybody's costs for therapy.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:20 PM (R256O)
41
Thank you, Grateful! I stole a peek at the hobby thread and loved that as well.
Posted by: bluebell at December 13, 2025 10:20 PM (79pEw)
42
To kick off the White Elephant gift game, whoever has comment number 56, please collect the first gift (pictured below) - your very own Kamala Harris bobblehead
What number gets the joey biden windup toy that just wanders around the tree?
Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:20 PM (TfUTr)
43
I worked in a large office in a time where there were drunken shenanigans during the Christmas party.
It was the 80s but you young people probably think it was like Mad Men. It wasn't but we did have secretaries who typed our work.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:21 PM (OWovX)
44
Welcome in, party people! Good to see you all. Nice drop in from Bluebell - always good to have armed security. Hope everyone has fun tonight. Wanging Chung is optional.
Posted by: Doof at December 13, 2025 10:21 PM (QMAsf)
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Tonight I'm 1). pissed off someone just rear-ended my wife's van when her and kid were traveling on the highway. 2). very grateful no one was hurt at all. 2 >>>> 1
Happy Christmas party everyone. I wish I had some nog.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 10:21 PM (3uBP9)
46
good evening DDS...thanks for bringing the meatballs, they are delicious....
47
38
My white elephant gift is a 3/8" socket that I've marked 10mm. We'll see if anyone notices.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 13, 2025 10:20 PM (QVmho)
My idea of Heaven is getting a full set of 10 mm
socket
deep
open
box
box rachet
and
impact
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 10:22 PM (gbOdA)
48
I will not be offsetting anybody's costs for therapy.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:20 PM (R256O)
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As long as you don't play Christmas Shoes (shudder).
The late great Oregon Muse and I shared a great disdain for that awful thing. I miss OMuse but I'm certain that he will never have to hear that song again where he is now.
Posted by: bluebell at December 13, 2025 10:22 PM (79pEw)
49
I shoveled out the drive so I could get to church tomorrow AM. The Ward office sent everyone an email that said services tomorrow were off on account of the day's high being 10 degrees. Gonna watch from home via virtual link.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 10:23 PM (XjTSo)
50
I brought the ugly gingerbread cookies... they taste good though...
51
Wow, what a party! Thanks, 3Ds! Everything came together so nicely, too...
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:23 PM (rdVOm)
52
I figure this may be a good time to ask but wasn't there a COB who was running a predict-it contest for 2025? Did I miss the results?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:24 PM (OWovX)
53
My idea of Heaven is getting a full set of 10 mm
socket
deep
open
box
box rachet
and
impact
Posted by: rhennigantx
Hey, as long as you're gonna lose 'em, go for the whole magilla....
Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:24 PM (TfUTr)
54
41 I stole a peek at the hobby thread and loved that as well.
Posted by: bluebell at December 13, 2025 10:20 PM
***
By popular demand (mostly Ben Had demand), we're doing the same theme next week! The Hobby Thread email box is open for submissions...
Posted by: Zeera , Damn Right I voted for all of this! at December 13, 2025 10:24 PM (jvxGE)
56
*stumbling into the Club, after wrestling with Moose...carrying a half bottle of vodka and a slightly broken ornament*
Did I make it on time for the party?!
Ima gonna lurch over to that sofa and probably just lurk...
When I come up with some wittisisms, I will be sure to step back in🤪 'cause I know you all are waiting for THAT (sarc)...
Hi Horde!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 13, 2025 10:24 PM (5lbLe)
While trying to decide between watching Die Hard or a Krampus/Star Trek crossover, I was feeling a bit whelmed, for while I'm not done Christmas Shopping, and the wrapping is not done, the house is decorated with both white lights and colored lights. Earlier in the day, I was at Waffle House (or was it Buc-ee's), where the moose out front in the ugly sweater was hawking egg nog and Christmas cookies for $20 - same as in town.
Ho ho ho, and Merry Christmas!
Drink up.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 13, 2025 10:25 PM (OGOaV)
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:25 PM (rdVOm)
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45 Tonight I'm 1). pissed off someone just rear-ended my wife's van when her and kid were traveling on the highway. 2). very grateful no one was hurt at all. 2 >>>> 1
Happy Christmas party everyone. I wish I had some nog.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 10:21 PM (3uBP9)
Had to go to Costco earlier...made a left turn (two left turn lanes), guy in the lane next to me decided he really wanted to be in my lane. Fortunately I saw what he was doing, hit my brakes and honked the...Tim Walz.
No car-to-car contact.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:25 PM (ynpvh)
63
On Thursday they sent around the work party, food fest, sign-up list, I was on it in 5 seconds writing in meat and cheese tray. The easiest thing, and I got it first. Well the person that brings plates and cups might be easier but I can't go that low.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 10:26 PM (3uBP9)
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56 *stumbling into the Club, after wrestling with Moose...carrying a half bottle of vodka and a slightly broken ornament*
Did I make it on time for the party?!
Ima gonna lurch over to that sofa and probably just lurk...
When I come up with some wittisisms, I will be sure to step back in🤪 'cause I know you all are waiting for THAT (sarc)...
Hi Horde!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 13, 2025 10:24 PM (5lbLe)
Congrats on the Kumala doll...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:26 PM (ynpvh)
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52 I figure this may be a good time to ask but wasn't there a COB who was running a predict-it contest for 2025? Did I miss the results?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:24 PM
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Excellent memory. Yes, 'tis me. Results will be published after the new year. There is yet more 2025 to run...
66
Why is there a TV set on top of the bigger TV set in that 1970s Christmas photo? Were they going to watch 2 of the 3 channels at the same time?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 13, 2025 10:27 PM (Wj1DV)
67
By popular demand (mostly Ben Had demand), we're doing the same theme next week! The Hobby Thread email box is open for submissions...
Posted by: TRex - ornamental dino at December 13, 2025 10:24 PM (IQ6Gq)
Oh good! Because I have a submission I was too late to submit for today.
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:27 PM (ZdaMQ)
68
I will just sit at the bar and casually swing my legs until someone notices my shoes.
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:19 PM (ZdaMQ)
Are you wearing those elf shoes with the curly toes? Unless they are saddle shoes or have curly toes, I probably won't even realize you have feet.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:27 PM (R256O)
Posted by: Don Black at December 13, 2025 10:27 PM (ZxPkt)
70
*stumbling into the Club, after wrestling with Moose...carrying a half bottle of vodka and a slightly broken ornament*
Did I make it on time for the party?!
Ima gonna lurch over to that sofa and probably just lurk...
When I come up with some wittisisms, I will be sure to step back in🤪 'cause I know you all are waiting for THAT (sarc)...
Hi Horde!
Posted by: COMountainMarie
Dearie, your seat is reserved, stay away from the couch....JQ got her job on that couch.
(smiley face icon here)
Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:28 PM (TfUTr)
Posted by: Don Black at December 13, 2025 10:27 PM (ZxPkt)
Somehow that comment # and comment seem related...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:28 PM (ynpvh)
73
>>> *sends drone with bourbon/nog to Banana Dream*
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:25 PM (rdVOm)
I even have the perfect spiced rum for it. With a picture of a jaunty pirate and everything.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 10:28 PM (3uBP9)
74
My parents asked if Smoke the cat wanted a Christmas sweater. I laughed at the idea of stuffing Smoke into such a thing & him being anywhere close to pleased at doing so! Smoke went out to play while I shoveled snow earlier, so he is curled up on the sofa warming up.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 10:28 PM (XjTSo)
SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 15-12 SLC-4E - Vandenberg SFB - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: December 13, 2025 (PST)
Launch Time: 9:49 p.m. PST
https://youtu.be/cLpU4IDPvO8
Posted by: Joyenz at December 13, 2025 10:29 PM (2F0/Y)
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I predict San Franpsycho will be the first to dance with a lampshade on his head tonight.
I will check Pixy's thread in the morning to see if I am right.
Good night everyone! Have fun!
Posted by: bluebell at December 13, 2025 10:29 PM (79pEw)
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Why is there a TV set on top of the bigger TV set in that 1970s Christmas photo? Were they going to watch 2 of the 3 channels at the same time?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit
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DIY picture on picture. Probably a sports fanatic's house.
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:29 PM (rdVOm)
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74 My parents asked if Smoke the cat wanted a Christmas sweater. I laughed at the idea of stuffing Smoke into such a thing & him being anywhere close to pleased at doing so! Smoke went out to play while I shoveled snow earlier, so he is curled up on the sofa warming up.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 10:28 PM (XjTSo)
My sister's dog loves wearing shirts, and gets pissed if one is not put on him...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:29 PM (ynpvh)
80I worked in a large office in a time where there were drunken shenanigans during the Christmas party.
I started working at my last job around 1991, the computer department of a small private university. The department was of course even smaller, but we still had Christmas parties and there was still serious alcohol. By the time I retired those parties were much more sanitized.
81
Die Hard... man.
McCain could have learned about "No wobbly shit" from Weasel when he jumped off that roof tied to a fire hose. (Good thing that table he hid under wasn't wobbly!) And I love the scene where he writes "Ho! Ho! Ho! Now I've got a machine gun" on that dead terrorist's ugly sweater. OK, it was a sweatshirt, but that's just a sweater with the fuzz on the inside. And all of the white lights and colored lights at that helipad on the roof. And that cop would have had a lot better stuff than Twinkies if they had Buc-ees in California.
Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 10:30 PM (KC4YG)
82
so, any crazzzy office Christmas party stories ???
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2025 10:30 PM (g47mK)
83
Speaking of the Seventies Xmas photo, I also owned a wagon like that. Carried a lot of stuff around in it for a while. Then it was used to carry home & garden stuff around for a while.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 10:30 PM (XjTSo)
My idea of Heaven is getting a full set of 10 mm
socket
deep
open
box
box rachet
and
impact
Posted by: rhennigantx
Before he passed, i was visiting Dad aand stolee all of his 3/8" sockets and wrenches (he had a Harley). I replaced them with equivalent 10mm tools just to fuck with him.
The next time i visited, i put them all out at his work place when he went to the bathroom. He just glared at me. I reminded him of all the times he had me hold the sparkplug so he could check the spark on the mower. He grunted and called me a little shit.
Really miss him. Miss our annual motorcycle rides across the country. But it's the little things, like stealing his tools that make me smile.
BTW, he got me again with the sparkplug wires by turning over his Harley while I was hooking it back up after gapping it for him. He was 82 and I was old enough to know better.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 13, 2025 10:31 PM (QVmho)
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Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:28 PM
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Rat! You bastard! ***SLAP***
(you promised to never tell!)
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:31 PM (rdVOm)
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78 Why is there a TV set on top of the bigger TV set in that 1970s Christmas photo? Were they going to watch 2 of the 3 channels at the same time?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit
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DIY picture on picture. Probably a sports fanatic's house.
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:29 PM (rdVOm)
One TV with the VHF antenna, another with the UHF antenna?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:31 PM (ynpvh)
87
Congratulations, COMM. You are now the proud owner of a Kamala Harris bobblehead. It is a Major Award!
Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:31 PM (R256O)
88
32 Looking at that seventies photo I literally first thought I must have sent it in and forgot.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 13, 2025 10:17 PM (EXyHK)
Christmas photo is stereotypical 70's. Naugahyde recliner. Encyclopedias in the bookcase. Portable TV on top of console TV to pick up UHF stations. Huge rabbit ears for distant stations.
Posted by: Joemarine at December 13, 2025 10:31 PM (y171U)
89A large animatronic TRex in a Christmas sweater?
one of the entrants in the ugly sweater contest at our office holiday all-hands yesterday was a "tree rex" sweater.
Posted by: anachronda at December 13, 2025 10:32 PM (edU/H)
90
Why not? You have three options: keep it and never use it and have the gifter ask where it is; throw it away unused, break it. Seems regifting is the superior option.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 10:08 PM (uQesX)
"I'm standing right here"
-Thrift store in the next town over
Posted by: sal at December 13, 2025 10:32 PM (f+FmA)
91
My favorite cookies in the world are snowball cookies. I might make some this year. Cutting out carbs but it will be my one treat. You can make "plain" which are great but also mint, or cocoa, or orange, they are like a cookie canvas to make almost anything.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 10:33 PM (3uBP9)
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I had to send my iPad back to Apple. This is not great news. I will just sit at the bar and casually swing my legs until someone notices my shoes.
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:19 PM (ZdaMQ)
Gee! Nice shoes, Piper! I love the color-coordinated spikes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 10:33 PM (npFr7)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:33 PM (ynpvh)
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Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 13, 2025 10:25 PM (OGOaV)
Nicely done.
Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 10:34 PM (KC4YG)
95
Starting in the late 70s, my Dad would video tape each Christmas. He had these extremely bright light, and also had the camcorder hooked to the TV masquerading as furniture so we could see what was being recorded. It was kind of trippy to point the camera at the TV.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 13, 2025 10:34 PM (OGOaV)
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Are you wearing those elf shoes with the curly toes? Unless they are saddle shoes or have curly toes, I probably won't even realize you have feet.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:27 PM (R256O)
Ummm no, https://tinyurl.com/yrdrd2yz - here they are. 😀
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:35 PM (ZdaMQ)
97
People stopped asking me to Christmas parties because I always pocket the Beenie-Weenies.
Where are they?
Posted by: Hangry Hank at December 13, 2025 10:36 PM (oftw2)
four degrees out now ... I ventured out today when it was ten, and weather said my skin could freeze in a half hour. So I spent ten minutes wrapped up, clearing snow off 60% of my solar panels.
The Big Question is whether tomorrow's full sun at ten degrees max will be hot enough to melt off the rest of the snow. This is what I do for hermit excitement. Oh, and heating the house with my little woodstove is also an adventure. Makes me feel self reliant.
cheers
Posted by: illiniwek at December 13, 2025 10:36 PM (vbXSk)
99
Celebrating this virtual party with an eggnog. Not as good as Mom used to make, but tasty.
I don't have anything new to offer as a present to y'all, so I've re-wrapped this, from Christmas 2016 ICYMI:
Mindful Webworkshop Episode #16 (the last one) - Christmas
Politically Incorrect and Culturally Inappropriate pop song parodies and original tunes sure to put coal in my stocking.
🎅There are Santa Clauses
🎅Rudolfo
🎅The Terrible Christmas Song
🎅Christmas Wrap
🎅Nutcracker
🎅The All-Purpose Greeting Card Song
Eleven minutes, so you may want to just bookmark it for after the party slows down. Or just re-gift it and go on with your preferred hard metal rock.
100My favorite cookies in the world are snowball cookies.
Snowball cookies are amazing. I love them all but I found a recipe for macadamia nut ones in an old Hawaiian community cookbook a few years back that I love.
101
95 Starting in the late 70s, my Dad would video tape each Christmas. He had these extremely bright light, and also had the camcorder hooked to the TV masquerading as furniture so we could see what was being recorded. It was kind of trippy to point the camera at the TV.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 13, 2025 10:34 PM (OGOaV)
Brother was converting 8mm into VHS for my Dad. All the movies were silent so he added a soundtrack...in one, my Dad was skiing in Lake of the Ozarks to the sound of "Final Countdown". Dad was not amused.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:36 PM (ynpvh)
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99
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Posted by: mindful webworker - in jaunty Santa hat at December 13, 2025 10:36 PM (lbDMw)
Congrats on your new sweater. It's a beaut!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:37 PM (ynpvh)
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Why is there a TV set on top of the bigger TV set in that 1970s Christmas photo? Were they going to watch 2 of the 3 channels at the same time?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 13, 2025 10:27 PM (Wj1DV)
I'm guessing the big TV croaked, and they brought in the portable as backup. We tend to forget those old tube-type TV sets often developed problems that called for repair services.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 10:37 PM (npFr7)
Sorry, but since it was in the newsletter I figured it was ok....sigh, places another $1.73 in tip jar.
Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:37 PM (TfUTr)
105
Excellent memory. Yes, 'tis me. Results will be published after the new year. There is yet more 2025 to run...
Posted by: TRex - kreskin dino at December 13, 2025 10:26 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Well, I'm long the market and it hasn't collapsed, so there's that.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:38 PM (OWovX)
106
re: dryer lint. mathematician friend of mine claimed that your dryer lint was the average color of your clothes.
Posted by: anachronda at December 13, 2025 10:38 PM (edU/H)
107
Piper, are your shoes Jimmy Choo, Louboutin, or Manahlo's?
I feel certain my invitation to Berserkers Christmas Metal Extravaganza must've been lost in the mail, so it's lovey to be able to join you all this evening!
I was feeling fancy, hence the pearls and Norwegian Silver Fox coat. The pearls were a wedding gift, the fur was inherited. It is entirely too hot on top of my black velvet minidress, and thigh high leather boots, but one does one's poor best to carry on.
The fishnet stockings would've been appropriate for Betserkers event, but, alas....
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 10:38 PM (Vvh2V)
108
A friend of mine probably did the most sinister, creative and time consuming prank Christmas gift I've been honored to witness. He got his wife one of those House and Garden pots that plugs in and melts scented wax squares as an air freshener.
The bastard then bought the wax squares, which come in a plastic rectangle with slots for each square. He promptly removed the squares and melted them all down and proceeded to melt down some unscented candles he bought. With the unscented wax he made batches adding the most unpleasant scents you can imagine (Vinegar, Liniment, rotten eggs, spoiled milk). He shaped them using a mold. THEN, took the original scented squares and coated the outside. So, if you smelled them before they melted, it would seem A-OK. Then, he placed them back in the original containers. Wrapped the whole deal and put it under the tree for his wife.
This is an ongoing thing with those two. She was impressed with the effort, as were we all.
Posted by: Orson at December 13, 2025 10:39 PM (dIske)
109
Glad to see all of you here at The Club Christmas Party!
Posted by: scampydog at December 13, 2025 10:39 PM (41CYW)
110
"I'm standing right here"
-Thrift store in the next town over
Posted by: sal at December 13, 2025 10:32 PM (f+FmA)
Too much work.
(tosses gift in garbage can)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 10:39 PM (uQesX)
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91 My favorite cookies in the world are snowball cookies. I might make some this year. Cutting out carbs but it will be my one treat. You can make "plain" which are great but also mint, or cocoa, or orange, they are like a cookie canvas to make almost anything.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 10:33 PM (3uBP9)
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My favorites are Russian tea cakes, which as best I can tell are flatter versions of snowball cookies.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 13, 2025 10:39 PM (OGOaV)
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96 Ummm no, https://tinyurl.com/yrdrd2yz - here they are. 😀
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:35 PM (ZdaMQ)
As far as I am concerned, you might as well not even have feet.
Quentin Tarintino or the Manolo might have a different opinion.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:39 PM (R256O)
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The Big Question is whether tomorrow's full sun at ten degrees max will be hot enough to melt off the rest of the snow. This is what I do for hermit excitement. Oh, and heating the house with my little woodstove is also an adventure. Makes me feel self reliant.
cheers
Posted by: illiniwek at December
I hope you have cozy warm blankets!
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:40 PM (ZdaMQ)
114
Excellent memory. Yes, 'tis me. Results will be published after the new year. There is yet more 2025 to run...
Posted by: TRex - kreskin dino at December 13, 2025 10:26 PM (IQ6Gq)
My list is still around here somewhere- looking forward to it.
And, DDD's? You have outdone yourselves.
Posted by: sal at December 13, 2025 10:40 PM (f+FmA)
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As far as I am concerned, you might as well not even have feet.
Quentin Tarintino or the Manolo might have a different opinion.
Posted by: tankdemon at December
Well they are kind of small because I am height challenged.
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:41 PM (ZdaMQ)
116
The old Zenith console TV my folks had in the 70s couldn't pick up any UHF channels.
I do remember the days when a TV repairman would work on that old thing.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 10:41 PM (6p0Jv)
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106 re: dryer lint. mathematician friend of mine claimed that your dryer lint was the average color of your clothes.
Posted by: anachronda at December 13, 2025 10:38 PM (edU/H)
Nearly seems right...some clothing is fuzzier than others and contributes more lint...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:42 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:44 PM (rdVOm)
123Why is there a TV set on top of the bigger TV set in that 1970s Christmas photo? Were they going to watch 2 of the 3 channels at the same time?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit
Tube works on the bottom one, sound works on the top one?
Posted by: mikeski at December 13, 2025 10:44 PM (nhCoE)
124
Gotta get off and be a productive member of society. Merry Christmas. Thanks to the 3D's for the swell party.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:44 PM (R256O)
125
And, DDD's? You have outdone yourselves.
Posted by: sal
Truely, "God Bless us, each and everyone!"
Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:44 PM (TfUTr)
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116 The old Zenith console TV my folks had in the 70s couldn't pick up any UHF channels.
I do remember the days when a TV repairman would work on that old thing.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 10:41 PM (6p0Jv)
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Growing up, my Dad was an all-around handyman. We never had repair people in the house - no plumbers, no electricians - and never took our cars into the shop. I do remember him having a collection of tubes in the garage.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 13, 2025 10:45 PM (OGOaV)
127
I bought my niece a scoop shovel, she broke her plastic one shoveling bark dust. I bought myself a bottle corker, apparently made by Ferrari industries.
It doesn't go very fast, but on the other hand it doesn't leak oil so I figure I am winning.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 10:45 PM (rbvCR)
I put a couple of strings of these up over the jukebox *just for you*
https://tinyurl.com/mr7p2xkp
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:47 PM (rdVOm)
129 120 Well they are kind of small because I am height challenged.
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:41 PM (ZdaMQ)
$995 for shoes??!!?? You must get paid too much for your Sunday ONT work!
Posted by: Doof at December 13, 2025
I just put them on your card. It’s fine.
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:47 PM (ZdaMQ)
130
There used to be a little-known band of man-eating apes living in the Hollywood Hills. They found Californians especially to their liking, especially around the holidays.
Why? Everyone knows that Yule Gibbons ate fruits, nuts, and flakes.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 10:47 PM (IG3/x)
131
Totally OT from this festive gathering, there has been a shooting at Brown University this afternoon and I have stumbled upon the local news broadcast, which I gather has been going on for over five hours now.
In summary, the guy walked out, turned right, and has not been seen again. Nothing further at this point.
Five hours of clueless reporters, dumb ass politicians, cop officials desperate to be elsewhere, and constant unsupported about students delicate feelings, and a city changed forever.
Fascinating, hadn't watched local news in forever. It's changed, not for the better.
We at 56 yet?
Posted by: From about That Time at December 13, 2025 10:48 PM (sl73Y)
132
Ad agency I worked at gift wrapped hundreds of swag gifts, emergency flashlights with radio and a siren. We installed batteries, tuned radio to client's channel. In shipping all the siren switches clicked on. Hilarity ensued.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 10:48 PM (Kt19C)
133
Good Saturday evening, 'ettes and 'rons, and thanks for the triple-Ds for the ONT.
I remember the original intended disposition of that Kamala bobblehead from Corsicana ...
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Ha, Louboutin! Those are stunning, but my 120 days are well behind me. 85 is bad enough. And I'd ruin the velvet in half an hour.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 10:49 PM (Vvh2V)
135
I do love fruitcake, but haven't had any this year. I don't understand the hatred of it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:49 PM (ynpvh)
136
"I hope you have cozy warm blankets!" Posted by: Piper
ha, yes, I use an electric blanket for winter. And I still have the grid to depend on. But after my electric rates increased about 40% I started burning wood again. And I need the wood cutting exercise, so it's all good. Surprising that my little woodstove can heat the whole house, though back rooms stay around 60.
cheers to you Piper.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 13, 2025 10:50 PM (vbXSk)
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I predict San Franpsycho will be the first to dance with a lampshade on his head tonight.
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*takes swig of Kahlua from the bottle*
Well, here goes nothing!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:50 PM (OWovX)
Posted by: Hangry Hank. at December 13, 2025 10:50 PM (oftw2)
Heh. We'll keep the figgy pudding, let the Brit's eat their spotted dick.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:51 PM (ynpvh)
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THEN, took the original scented squares and coated the outside. So, if you smelled them before they melted, it would seem A-OK. Then, he placed them back in the original containers. Wrapped the whole deal and put it under the tree for his wife.
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This is why I love my dogs more than I'll ever love any person.
People are asshoe.
Sorry, honey.
Posted by: Cheerful Reprobate at December 13, 2025 10:51 PM (0yLoC)
142 $995 for shoes??!!?? You must get paid too much for your Sunday ONT work!
Posted by: Doof at December 13, 2025
I just put them on your card. It’s fine.
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:47 PM (ZdaMQ)
Haha! I better raise the price on those Club ONT coins.
Posted by: Doof at December 13, 2025 10:52 PM (QMAsf)
143Ad agency I worked at gift wrapped hundreds of swag gifts, emergency flashlights with radio and a siren. We installed batteries, tuned radio to client's channel. In shipping all the siren switches clicked on. Hilarity ensued.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 10:48 PM (Kt19C)
One Christmas I worked as a casual for the local USPS sorting office, and a box came through making noises. They evacuated the building and brought in the bomb squad, it was a toy that was shipped with the batteries in.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 10:52 PM (rbvCR)
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I do love fruitcake, but haven't had any this year. I don't understand the hatred of it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:49 PM (ynpvh)
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Those people must hate Christmas. And America.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:52 PM (OWovX)
I’m pooped. Stayed up until after midnight yapping with an old college buddy who contacted me kind of out of the blue. Super fun.
My ugly Christmas sweatshirt won last year. It’s a kitty wearing a Santa hat riding a T. rex with tacos and pizza slices orbiting around.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 13, 2025 10:52 PM (mT+6a)
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Im reading George William Rutlers The Stories of Hymns right now. At the end of his short summary of Edward Caswells Hark! A Thrilling Voice is Sounding he added:
Out of respect for the sensibilities of overreaching choristers, whose number is legion, Caswells opening verse was altered for its second printing in 1852 from the line first published three years before: Hark, an awful voice is sounding
147
Sleighbells ring ... Are you raaaaacists listening?
Posted by: Adriane the Not Cynical Enough Critic . . . at December 13, 2025 10:52 PM (3ZUWJ)
148Why is there a TV set on top of the bigger TV set in that 1970s Christmas photo? Were they going to watch 2 of the 3 channels at the same time?
I've seen that setup a few times. Most likely one TV had a working picture tube and the other one had a working audio circuit. Tune 'em both to the same channel and call it good.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 13, 2025 10:53 PM (lUFok)
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34 Ha, Louboutin! Those are stunning, but my 120 days are well behind me. 85 is bad enough. And I'd ruin the velvet in half an hour.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 10:49 PM (Vvh2V)
My calfskin 100s still look new, I have to take a deep breath and pray there will be seating if I wear them. 😂 85s are still nothing to sneeze at, ma’am! However, my 70s need new heel tips again, they are classic and my go to, I can run in that height!
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:53 PM (ZdaMQ)
What am I?! Chopped liver?!
Sheesh...all these years I generously shared my wobbly table...
Now I have to sit at the end of the bar on this wobbly bar stool, where it always smells like stale beer and cigs...
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 13, 2025 10:53 PM (5lbLe)
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Glad to see all of you here at The Club Christmas Party!
Posted by: scampydog
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And your tardy excuse is ?
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I don't know if we're talking about greatest Christmas Presents ever received but for me it was a Garmin 760 car GPS from my Anonymous wife. Since I'm kind of a 'map' guy it was perfect!
As a bonus I got to hear such golden oldies as 'you don't need your stupid GPS to go to the grocery store' and 'are you going to go where I tell you or where your stupid GPS tells you?'
Good times....good times....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 13, 2025 10:53 PM (QGaXH)
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The top one was color or had better reception for UHF stations.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 13, 2025 10:53 PM (R86kT)
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someone got a little TV for his own room! What a Christmas.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 10:54 PM (rbvCR)
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Posted by: From about That Time at December 13, 2025 10:48 PM (sl73Y)
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That first news conference a few hours ago was very contentless. They won't say much until they catch the guy.
My guess is frustrated Chinese engineering student.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:55 PM (OWovX)
158
Piper, those shoes look fabulous! And they cost only $5.00 short of a grand! But can you actually stand and walk about for any appreciable length of time in them? Just curious…
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 13, 2025 10:55 PM (075ei)
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And your tardy excuse is ?
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba
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Was measuring a certain cobs yard for a certain gift mentioned in the cintent.
Posted by: scampydog at December 13, 2025 10:55 PM (41CYW)
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OK, and where is this Hobo Santa? Must have heard he was going to be seated outside and thought twice about that...
Posted by: scampydog at December 13, 2025 10:57 PM (41CYW)
163 I remember the original intended disposition of that Kamala bobblehead from Corsicana ...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at December 13, 2025 10:49 PM (v23vE)
There may or may not still be plans like that for said bobblehead that may or may not be in my range bag in my basement.
Posted by: Doof at December 13, 2025 10:57 PM (QMAsf)
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What am I?! Chopped liver?!
Sheesh...all these years I generously shared my wobbly table...
Now I have to sit at the end of the bar on this wobbly bar stool, where it always smells like stale beer and cigs...
Posted by: COMountainMarie
Sweetie! See #70!
Sheesh. Nurse, DDS, go fetch Marie.
Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:57 PM (TfUTr)
We put up colored and white icicle lights on the porch this evening. We had quite a bit of snow but it has melted away. But still, it's beginning to look a lot like Christmas.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 13, 2025 10:58 PM (f7Gew)
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And your tardy excuse is ?
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba
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Was measuring a certain cobs yard for a certain gift mentioned in the cintent.
Posted by: scampydog
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Like the dogs wouldn't notice you in the yard....remember, be nice - less than 2 weeks til the big day and the Big Guy is still keeping his Nice/Naughty list, and checking it twice!
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I think my Pigalles are 100s. Strictly for the bedroom at this point.
Gianvito Rossi is my go to for pumps now, or LK Bennet. Such is life at 62! 😁
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 10:59 PM (Vvh2V)
170 10 Does anybody else think that the only proper pose for a Kamala Harris bobblehead is in her knees?
Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:07 PM
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She has to walk to the toilet to spit.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 13, 2025 11:00 PM (L78T1)
171Take a nice long break and go mingle.
Posted by: Doof
Freaking out the introverts, for $300.
Posted by: mikeski at December 13, 2025 11:00 PM (nhCoE)
172
Colored lights are for Christmas that is festive and psychedelic. White lights are for Christmas that is magical and psychedelic.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 11:01 PM (OWovX)
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All y'all who think a thousand is a lot for shoes had best not ask about handbags! 😂😂😂
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:01 PM (Vvh2V)
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10 Does anybody else think that the only proper pose for a Kamala Harris bobblehead is in her knees?
Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:07 PM
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She has to walk to the toilet to spit.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 13, 2025 11:00 PM (L78T1)
So the saying "Mean people suck; nice people swallow" is true?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 11:02 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: scampydog at December 13, 2025 11:04 PM (41CYW)
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173 All y'all who think a thousand is a lot for shoes had best not ask about handbags! 😂😂😂
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:01 PM (Vvh2V)
How many times will you use it? When my wife wanted to make a significant purchase, that was always my question.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 11:05 PM (ynpvh)
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54 By popular demand (mostly Ben Had demand), we're doing the same theme next week! The Hobby Thread email box is open for submissions...
Posted by: TRex - ornamental dino at December 13, 2025 10:24 PM (IQ6Gq)
Great! I had two more I couldn't find in time for today as we're just getting the tree decorated (drinkerated) today.
On a related note - Svengoolie is just coming on in my time zone. Dennis Hopper in 'Duel'. Apparently not a Christmas movie.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 13, 2025 11:07 PM (QGaXH)
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Well, I'm about done. Tomorrow I prep for surgery on Monday. Night all.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 11:07 PM (ynpvh)
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Whoa! I made Top 10ish Comments for the first time!
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I'll regift if it's something someone asked for specifically.
I will pass it along unwrapped with it's Origin Story in addition to my original gift if I think it's something they would enjoy.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:08 PM (Vvh2V)
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How many times will you use it? When my wife wanted to make a significant purchase, that was always my question.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
Sorta like us buying a transmission jack.
Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 11:08 PM (TfUTr)
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>>>@91 My favorite cookies in the world are snowball cookies. I might make some this year. Cutting out carbs but it will be my one treat. You can make "plain" which are great but also mint, or cocoa, or orange, they are like a cookie canvas to make almost anything. Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 10:33 PM (3uBP9)
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Greetings, banana dream ... I just finished making 9 dozen of these to take to a cookie swap tomorrow ... Because of the many steps involved -- make dough, chill dough, portion dough, roll portions into ball shapes, bake cookies, coat baked cookies with 10X sugar while warm and, finally, recoat cookies with 10X sugar once they're completely cooled -- I usually perform the tasks over two days instead of one to ensure I can carefully monitor the cookies baking and now send some freshly-baked samples through the USB port for you to enjoy tonight!
Posted by: Kathy at December 13, 2025 11:09 PM (zuKcR)
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Well, I'm about done. Tomorrow I prep for surgery on Monday. Night all.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 11:07 PM (ynpvh)
Night, Jim. May the surgery be uneventful, and successful.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 11:09 PM (npFr7)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 11:09 PM (Kt19C)
187 42 To kick off the White Elephant gift game, whoever has comment number 56, please collect the first gift (pictured below) - your very own Kamala Harris bobblehead
What number gets the joey biden windup toy that just wanders around the tree?
Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:20 PM (TfUTr)
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I remember there was a model train sold in the 60s where you could put a pellet down the locomotive smokestack to make real smoke. Maybe a Biden model where you slip a pellet inside the back of its pants?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 13, 2025 11:10 PM (L78T1)
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So, I understand I won a Kumala bobblehead.
I'm soooo excited!
Dino has my address, so I expect this ASAP!
It's everything I wanted and hoped for😛!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 13, 2025 11:10 PM (5lbLe)
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169 I think my Pigalles are 100s. Strictly for the bedroom at this point.
Gianvito Rossi is my go to for pumps now, or LK Bennet. Such is life at 62! 😁
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
Dress shoes for me are patent leather Birkenstocks.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 13, 2025 11:11 PM (mT+6a)
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169 I think my Pigalles are 100s. Strictly for the bedroom at this point.
Gianvito Rossi is my go to for pumps now, or LK Bennet. Such is life at 62! 😁
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
since your soles are unscuffed you could return them to the store
Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:14 PM (4hlpI)
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158 Piper, those shoes look fabulous! And they cost only $5.00 short of a grand! But can you actually stand and walk about for any appreciable length of time in them? Just curious…
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 13, 2025 10:55 PM (075ei)
I could only manage a 120 if they are a platform toe. 100 is my limit in a normal pump and even those I have to remind myself of the Louboutin quote- they are made to make your foot look good, not feel good!
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 11:15 PM (ZdaMQ)
Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:16 PM (4hlpI)
201"In related news, plays on the jukebox are free tonight."
Sneaks up to jukebox.
Plays "Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer."
Plays it again.
Then again.
Repeat 15 times.
Plays Lindsey Sterling's "Carol of the Bells"
Plays "Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer" five more times.
Posted by: tankdemon
Whew. After that, we can get away with anything, right? I didn't think the jukebox would even have my kind of Christmas music, but.....
https://youtu.be/emQR5uPavic
Posted by: mikeski at December 13, 2025 11:17 PM (nhCoE)
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The Christmas morning photo with the red wagon...why is there a little tv on top of the big tv?
Not a huge fan of punch, altho I own two punch bowls & ladles that I never use. Because you never know when you might need these things.
Once, on a college camping trip at the end of spring semester, SOMEONE (not me) must have put Everclear in the punch. Granted, I was there for whatever in the way of drinking (or smoking), but not much of a punch drinker, either, except at weddings where they were often non-alcoholic.
I prided myself in keeping it together drinking at parties. I was the last one standing & still cracking jokes. Not that night in the wilderness, bro. I suddenly felt harfy (which is rare), stood up,& l and almost face planted into the camp fire. Which would have been bad in any circumstance to land in a fire on your face, much less hours from a trauma center or hospital.
I lurched over a friend's truck, & for reasons unknown, went under his truck to puke.
Another friend found me there, as I guess he cared enough to look for me. I remember his face asking me why I was under the truck and I told him I had no idea.Eventually I got out from under the truck.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 11:19 PM (WONhk)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 11:19 PM (Kt19C)
204
Rhode Island will have broadsides of the Brown U. shooting suspect up at all the inns and taverns by noon tomorrow. All carriages coming out of the city of Providence will be subject to search by duly authorized peace officers until further notice. Residents of Providence and surrounding farms are advised to keep loaded muskets at hand. Further updates will be provided in the monthly Gazette.
Posted by: Wm. Peabody at December 13, 2025 11:20 PM (qUkBO)
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Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 11:05 PM (ynpvh)
That is exactly how I justify it. Some of the older bags from luxury houses were of such quality that they will likely be passed down to granddaughters. Cost per wear atvthat point will be pennies!
I'm glad I bought my bags when they quality was still there. Luxury is no longer worth the cost. Hermes is still very good quality, but I dont care for too many of their bags. I have a Kelly and a Picotin. Don't care for Birkins. I have heard very horrifying stories about how the obtain the skins for their bags, and had I heard them prior to buying mine, I would have researched more and definitely not bought them, if the rumors were true.
Not long before Covid, I was looking for another Chanel Boy bag, and could not believe the decline in quality. Strings hanging off, crooked stitching.... for the amount they charge ( more now!) that bag needs to be pristine!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:20 PM (Vvh2V)
206 169 I think my Pigalles are 100s. Strictly for the bedroom at this point.
Wait wut?
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 13, 2025 11:21 PM (RoO7G)
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Gianvito Rossi is my go to for pumps now, or LK Bennet. Such is life at 62! 😁
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
I have 1 pair of Gianvito Rossi pumps, but they are red so I don’t wear them often. I don’t wear any of them often anymore since I live in leggings and socks now. 😢
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 11:21 PM (ZdaMQ)
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Oh my gosh, it is so nice to see so many people, Grateful, I am glad that you liked the meatballs, I so enjoyed meeting you and TRex at the MoMe.
JQ, you have outdone yourself, the Santa suit was hung on a hook in the foyer to the restroom (so tastefully decorated), I notice that is missing, we need Santa to make an appearance soon.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 13, 2025 11:21 PM (0nHVk)
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If my time in AK taught me anything it is that xtratuf boots go with any attire. 😁
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 13, 2025 11:22 PM (f7Gew)
Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:24 PM (4hlpI)
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They are not unscuffed, Sir! I am not one to lie back and think of England. 😉😉😉
How have you been?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
MissTammy! We are good, how are you and Thor?
Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:25 PM (4hlpI)
216How many times will you use it? When my wife wanted to make a significant purchase, that was always my question.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
IKR? I mean, she drives a car, she uses tires all the time.
That should make a good gift, I'm thinking.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 13, 2025 11:25 PM (RoO7G)
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It was an expression of my esteem at her exploits.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 11:26 PM (OWovX)
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Good evening, miscreants. I had a mostly domestic day, though I did go out for breakfast and went to REI to get some of those traction chains for my insulated hunting boots. We haven't had snow yet, but we did get a couple of big storms last year and I like to keep warm clothes in the car in case I need to walk home.
The hell-hound is staring at me like "get off the damned iPad and take me for a walk!"
Posted by: PabloD at December 13, 2025 11:26 PM (Epuwl)
Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:27 PM (4hlpI)
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179 On a related note - Svengoolie is just coming on in my time zone. Dennis Hopper in 'Duel'. Apparently not a Christmas movie.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 13, 2025 11:07 PM (QGaXH)
Correction - Dennis Weaver not Dennis Hopper.
I don't know what I was thinking.
Apologies for any inconvenience caused.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 13, 2025 11:28 PM (QGaXH)
221211 Tapping the egg nog reserve has been approved. Repeat - more egg nog has been authorized.
Club ONT Management
Posted by: Whelmed by bountiful egg nog at December 13, 2025 11:23 PM (IQ6Gq)
Aye aye, cap'n!
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 13, 2025 11:28 PM (RoO7G)
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I didn't see this mentioned yet. News the Horde will appreciate:
National Guard member Andrew Wolfe, who was shot near the White House in Washington, D.C. in late November, has been released from the hospital, NewsNation reported.
223 That should make a good gift, I'm thinking.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 13, 2025 11:25 PM (RoO7G)
Do not do this!
Your friend,
Piper
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 11:28 PM (ZdaMQ)
224
It was an expression of my esteem at her exploits.
Posted by: San
I mean physically , how does "we" do "self"
Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:28 PM (4hlpI)
225
Ho, Ho, Ho, Merry Christmas Hodelings! Please keep the reindeer away from the moose out front - I think they were planning some type of rodeo. Let's see what we have for all the good people, and yes.. even that Disco character.
Posted by: Santa at December 13, 2025 11:28 PM (41CYW)
226
Did anyone get the Hunter Biden painting in the White Elephant yet?
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I have a few pairs in suede, Pecan is a good neutral!
But I don't wear them in the sticks. I ought to pass them on to someone who would get more use put of them, but it's kind of gross offering used shoes, even to family! 😂 And I swear, no one dresses much for work anymore. Unless you're in finance or law, I just don't see anyone dressing up.
Even at Boeing, when I worked at corporate level, unless you were VP or above, it was Business Casual.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:30 PM (Vvh2V)
Hiya Nurse R! Hiya DDS!
In fact, hiya all youz Morons! Great party! Thanks you crazy Ds!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 13, 2025 11:33 PM (5lbLe)
231
Kestrel, chex mix sounds divine, especially with the extra good stuff! Everyone nowadays seems to add sweet things, and I don't care for it.
Mine is spicy. Not overly hot, just lots of good spices and I double those ( double the butter and Worcestershire, too!) and the nuts!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:34 PM (Vvh2V)
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Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 13, 2025 11:28 PM (GvwDZ)
Thank you for sharing that, wonderful news, indeed!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:35 PM (Vvh2V)
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Were we supposed to dress for this party? I am in my nightgown. I do have a Christmas nightgown but I am not wearing it tonight.Will get my tiara.
The only Christmas party where things did go wonky was an ED party. The group of docs (about 10 of them) were known to throw these and be asked by the hotels on the beach not to return. Many had rooms there (with spouses or girlfriends). We lived on the island about 5min from this hotel. There was a DJ and dancing.
One doc was daring another doc to shots of peppermint schnapps. My husband observed me deciding to use my booze tickets (until then, champagne) to compete with my ED doc buddies. It was a sneaky deal on my system, and my husband said at one point I was dancing alone.
We decided to leave & I was feeling a bit off balance but fine. I WAS FINE I told people leaving as well. At home I collapsed into bed and he knew then I was pretty bombed. Got my make up off ( never sleep with it on as a supermodel), & changed. Asked him for a glass of milk as I was going to read for awhile.He slept in another room
Woke the next day with the lamp still on and the milk still there. With a massive headache. The last time I had a hangover.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 11:36 PM (WONhk)
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 13, 2025 11:16 PM
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Thank you! Somehow that eluded our party planning list. Wouldn't be a proper Christmas party without it!
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Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:25 PM (4hlpI)
Getting old. It's been a rough year. How are you and yours? Have you taken her back to Gotham yet?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:37 PM (Vvh2V)
236 Hiya Nurse R! Hiya DDS!
In fact, hiya all youz Morons! Great party! Thanks you crazy Ds!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 13, 2025 11:33 PM (5lbLe)
Hey there, ladies!
*removes flask from ugly sweater pouch*
Who wants a swig?
Posted by: Doof at December 13, 2025 11:38 PM (QMAsf)
237
Barkeep, I was just thinking of a flaming rum punch. Off with you know and be lively.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 13, 2025 11:38 PM (R86kT)
238 Getting old. It's been a rough year. How are you and yours? Have you taken her back to Gotham yet?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
We are there frequently, but not enough to get dinged for taxes. Mostly, we are in Houston now. Everything is good with us.
Not sure we are staying in Houston, it is nice but everything is too far from whereever you are
Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:40 PM (4hlpI)
This thing really does have all the Christmas songs.
Posted by: mikeski at December 13, 2025 11:42 PM (nhCoE)
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Barkeep, I was just thinking of a flaming rum punch. Off with you know and be lively.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson
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You know, I was just chatting with a friend this afternoon about 151 proof rum-- tastes too strong, the only thing it's really good for is floating on top of drinks and *lighting*
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 11:43 PM (rdVOm)
242You know, I was just chatting with a friend this afternoon about 151 proof rum-- tastes too strong, the only thing it's really good for is floating on top of drinks and *lighting*
Posted by: JQ
75% alcohol? It probably has uses in first aid, or as fuel.....
Posted by: mikeski at December 13, 2025 11:46 PM (nhCoE)
President Trump signed an executive order, and this is verbatim, called the "Assuring the Security of the State of Qatar." Quote: "Over the years, the United States and the State of Qatar have been bound together by close cooperation, shared interests, and the close relationship between our armed forces. The state of Qatar has hosted United States forces, enabled critical security operations, and stood as a steadfast ally in pursuit of peace, stability, and prosperity both in the Middle East and abroad, including as a mediator that has assisted the United States' attempts to resolve significant regional and global conflicts."
Listen to this: "In recognition of this history and in light of the continuing threats to the state of Qatar posed by foreign aggression, it is the policy of the U.S. to guarantee the security and territorial integrity of the State of Qatar against external attack. The United States shall regard any armed attack on the territory sovereignty or critical infrastructure of the State of Qatar as a threat to the peace and security of the United States."
It's great have another close ally in the Middle East!
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 11:47 PM (2NGiN)
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Mikeski-- well of course first aid and fuel, but as far as beverages... yeah... light it, burn it off. Heh.
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 11:48 PM (rdVOm)
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I did not bring food, but I did bring Scotch. Dalwhinnie, and I've been there on our son's tour of the Highland distilleries. I don't remember a whole lot but it was pretty and I had fun.
Does this count?
Baby,it's cold outside. But no snow to speak of...oh, sure, up in the mountains. But I need it in my yard, stat!
I am trying to make the best of it but I am super mad that states like Indiana have snow and we don't here in ski country. We need it for water next summer, so it is not simply because I am having a tantrum for a white Christmas.
My husband tells me that there's a chance. I think he's only saying this to keep me from flipping out.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 11:48 PM (WONhk)
246 It's great have another close ally in the Middle East!
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 11:47 PM (2NGiN)
First up for karaoke! ☝️
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 11:48 PM (ZdaMQ)
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The United States shall regard any armed attack on the territory sovereignty or critical infrastructure of the State of Qatar as a threat to the peace and security of the United States."
It's great have another close ally in the Middle East!
in other words he had to have an executive order to warn Israel off bombing them again.
Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:49 PM (4hlpI)
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I'm headed out to the firepit for a smoke, I'll see if Doof is still passing that flask around. Whoever made the cheese ball, it is delicious and addictive. Thank you.
{{{COMM}}} Merry Christmas friend.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 13, 2025 11:55 PM (0nHVk)
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JQ, I will have a glass of the Jingle Juice. Or is it self serve? It sounds delicious!
Anyone want to sing "We three kings" with me?...after a few more drinks...
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 13, 2025 11:56 PM (f7Gew)
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Does the red truck ever double as Santa's sleigh?
Let me think about that . . . . . . nope! It could, if any of my grandkids would come around here for Christmas!
Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at December 13, 2025 11:56 PM (47diA)
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Hang on, got a tray of jalapeno poppers to bring out...
Oh! Yum...I was hoping someone remembered those!
I love the chex mix, but I'm getting the side eye from folks because I've been stuffing my pie hole...
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 13, 2025 11:57 PM (5lbLe)
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I hate pergolas maybe more than any other structure, why even bother
Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:58 PM (4hlpI)
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Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:40 PM (4hlpI)
I think what you mean is, it's nice, but it's too fucking hot and humid! 😂😂😂
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:59 PM (Vvh2V)
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***Question for those what make Chex Mix at home***
Must one use actual Chex brand cereal? Or can one get away with store-brand imitation chex?
And, do you care to share a recipe? Mom used to make a mix she called "Nuts n Bolts" that had a several types of chex, pretzel sticks, spanish peanuts and cheerios... the recipe is gone, but I'm sure the seasonings included Worcestershire sauce & garlic powder + I don't know what else. It was great!
Thanks in advance!
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:00 AM (rdVOm)
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I want to hear Patty Smith's We Three Kings, and Robert Earle Keene's Merry Christmas From the Family!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 14, 2025 12:01 AM (Vvh2V)
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I think what you mean is, it's nice, but it's too fucking hot and humid! 😂😂😂
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
I am good with that, I am a bit disappointed in what a bunch of wuses Houstonians are. When its 105 and humid I am driving around with my windows down, air off , but the Houstonians have air on , windows up. wth
Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:01 AM (4hlpI)
Same as with chocolate chip cookies; buy a bag, follow directions.
Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:03 AM (4hlpI)
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Sorry I can't make it to the party. I'm at work. I am watching, thanks to our friends at the NSA (thanks, Bob)! Put those two sad downers at the end of the bar and give them shots of everclear. They'll quiet down soon enough. Or get arrested.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 14, 2025 12:03 AM (rii+a)
271I hate pergolas maybe more than any other structure, why even bother
Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:58 PM (4hlpI)
He was my favorite character in LOTR
Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 12:03 AM (rbvCR)
Posted by: Diogenes at December 14, 2025 12:05 AM (2WIwB)
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Chex Mix: generic "Chex" cereal is fine. Corn Chex, rice Chex, pretzels, peanuts. Sauce is melted butter, Worcestershire sauce, and seasonings. The recipe used to be on the back of the box of cereal.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 14, 2025 12:05 AM (f7Gew)
279he's a nazi , definitely
Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:04 AM (4hlpI)
Well, sure. Anyone who doesn't kick Nick Fuentes in the balls after inviting him to travel cross country to his house to talk is clearly a Natzi.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 12:06 AM (rbvCR)
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Well, sure. Anyone who doesn't kick Nick Fuentes in the balls after inviting him to travel cross country to his house to talk is clearly a Natzi.
Posted by: Kin
it is not even worth discussing , if youre not openly a nazi, youre a secret nazi
Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:07 AM (4hlpI)
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Made a loaf of banana bread tonight to use up the last couple of bananas from a bunch.
The house smells great, if not particularly Christmasy. I'll take half of it to a neighbor tomorrow so my diabetic ass isn't tempted to eat it all.
Has anyone ever tried soaking banana bread in rum? Something akin to a fruitcake?
I'll bet it would be good.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 14, 2025 12:07 AM (IG3/x)
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We need some muscle over here! Somebody please get the bouncer's attention...
(n0luA)
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:07 AM (rdVOm)
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Moose out front shoulda told you Morons there's no such thing as a Wafffle House.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 14, 2025 12:08 AM (ULPxl)
287This is my personal favorite version of We Three Kings...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrn78V0AzEY
Posted by: Joe Kidd
Uhgg.
Posted by: weft cut loop at December 14, 2025 12:10 AM (mlg/3)
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In an odd twist, the mercedes dealership in our nabe sits behind a waffle house, or vice versa
Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:10 AM (4hlpI)
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Happy Christmas Party, jolly onters!
At our work holiday dinner I indulged in irish coffee with whipped cream
Baileycious!
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 14, 2025 12:10 AM (dE3DB)
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Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 14, 2025 12:05 AM
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Thanks. I can find plenty of recipes online and can experiment. Was just wondering if anyone had a favorite variation of the original.
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:11 AM (rdVOm)
291 Thanks. I can find plenty of recipes online and can experiment. Was just wondering if anyone had a favorite variation of the original.
Posted by: JQ
go with the box, it is the smart thing.
Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:12 AM (4hlpI)
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277 This is my personal favorite version of We Three Kings...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrn78V0AzEY
Posted by: Joe Kidd
Let's sing!
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 14, 2025 12:12 AM (f7Gew)
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:00 AM (rdVOm)
This is the recipe I use. I add more Worcestershire because I like to.
https://tinyurl.com/4vw2rmfp
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 14, 2025 12:17 AM (6p0Jv)
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JQ. I must applaud your bartending skills👍!
Of course the night is young, and the crazy people haven't even shown up yet...we'll, at least not all of them(us)🤪...
I think I have a buck or two. I'll try to remember to leave you a tip💕...
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 14, 2025 12:17 AM (5lbLe)
303 210 Where can I find once ubiquitous fruitcake?
Next year in Corsicana!
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 13, 2025 11:22 PM (EXyHK)
LOL! I wonder how many readers “get it”.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 12:17 AM (k5cxK)
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it was in vented by the guys at chex to sell more chex, why would you think somebody has a more desirable recipe?
chex has more money, more research, more motivation to get the best recipe for chex mix
Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:19 AM (4hlpI)
Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:20 AM (4hlpI)
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271 I hate pergolas maybe more than any other structure, why even bother
Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:58 PM (4hlpI)
He was my favorite character in LOTR
Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 12:03 AM (rbvCR)
I admit I always thought Pergolas were pretty gay.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 12:22 AM (k5cxK)
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Here you go, JQ.
3 C each: rice, corn, wheat chex, and pretzels.
1TBS worcestershire sauce
6 TBS melted butter
1TBS seasoned salt
1/2 tsp onion powder
2/3 tsp garlic powder
1/2 TBS Frank's hot sauce
200 degree oven. Bake 1 hour, shaking/stirring every 15-20 mins
Posted by: scampydog at December 14, 2025 12:22 AM (41CYW)
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Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 14, 2025 12:17 AM
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THANK YOU!!!
*buys drink for Mary*
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:22 AM (rdVOm)
309it was in vented by the guys at chex to sell more chex, why would you think somebody has a more desirable recipe?
chex has more money, more research, more motivation to get the best recipe for chex mix
Posted by: n
Don't think outside the box. The box exists because it holds all the good answers that everyone else found.
Posted by: mikeski at December 14, 2025 12:24 AM (nhCoE)
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Don't think outside the box. The box exists because it holds all the good answers that everyone else found.
Posted by: m
Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:24 AM (4hlpI)
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Diogenes, welcome to the Club ONT Christmas Party. You called it, Wazzu going to a bowl game. Lost their coach, but going to a bowl.
Posted by: scampydog at December 14, 2025 12:16 AM (41CYW)
Yup! The potato bowl! Woohoo.
And we have a new coach and I think he's going to do well.
Hey!!! There's extra nog in this eggnog!!!
Me likey!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 14, 2025 12:25 AM (2WIwB)
Hey, I found these lights for you. Felt bad that only Dino & Disco got their own...
https://tinyurl.com/tzbzk2sb
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:25 AM (rdVOm)
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Don't think outside the box. The box exists because it holds all the good answers that everyone else found.
Posted by: m
it is chex mix, not woven square cereal made by dog food company mix, maybe they have some insight into this
smiley face
Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:26 AM (4hlpI)
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I remember in senior year of high school, among a certain crowd you could be king of cool if you secured a flask of Bacardi 151. Yeah it tasted awful but you had it, they was what counted.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 12:27 AM (k5cxK)
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Hey, I found these lights for you. Felt bad that only Dino & Disco got their own...
https://tinyurl.com/tzbzk2sb
Posted by: JQ
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Heh, those lights are awesome! Thank you.
Posted by: scampydog at December 14, 2025 12:28 AM (41CYW)
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I remember in senior year of high school, among a certain crowd you could be king of cool if you secured a flask of Bacardi 151. Yeah it tasted awful but you had it, they was what counted.
Posted by: Tom Se
janitors?
Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:30 AM (4hlpI)
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I remember in senior year of high school, among a certain crowd you could be king of cool if you secured a flask of Bacardi 151. Yeah it tasted awful but you had it, they was what counted.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Oh, I remember choking down a few swallows of same.. and then sniffing up the contents of a big black capsule.. and then going rollerskating. WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:30 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:33 AM (rdVOm)
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Let's sing!
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 14, 2025 12:12 AM (f7Gew)
The line about myrrh always gets me. It's a spice used for embalming and that part of the song is a reminder of grim mission ahead for Mary's baby. It's perfectly rendered by the singer here..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 14, 2025 12:36 AM (nbLIj)
Posted by: Archer at December 14, 2025 01:05 AM (YGRGv)
333 The line about myrrh always gets me. It's a spice used for embalming and that part of the song is a reminder of grim mission ahead for Mary's baby. It's perfectly rendered by the singer here..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 14, 2025 12:36
Yes, gold for a king, frankincense for a deity, and myrrh for a sacrifice. Almost the whole gospel story in one song.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 14, 2025 01:06 AM (f7Gew)
334This is my personal favorite version of We Three Kings...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrn78V0AzEY
Posted by: Joe Kidd
I've heard worse versions. Music was good. Vocals nice.
Something about the guitar riff in that reminded me (& MiladyJo too) of something… racked my brain, finally came up with a line that let my search hit it: Sultans of Swing!
https://youtu.be/h0ffIJ7ZO4U
Posted by: But I'm a Hero, the media says so at December 14, 2025 01:38 AM (F/35S)
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Party seems to be cooling down, before the next shift anyway. I'm going to get out of the way of all you hearty young partiers. Maybe catch you in the book thread. Maybe not. (Throws a Rwandan thousand-franc note in the tip jar. Tears off a chunk of fruitcake. Nom nom.)
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Work Christmas Party horror stories?
Has anyone else mentioned this is the wrong link?
Standards are really droppin' 'round here.
Posted by: But I'm a Hero, the media says so
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No, most of us just enjoyed the rest of the content and got on with the party, instead of insulting our hosts.
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 01:45 AM (rdVOm)
I admit to not noticing... some content is more appealing to me than other. Am sure others also pick what interests them most.
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 02:02 AM (rdVOm)
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I'm back, it was like a MoMe out there by the firepit, just having so many lovely conversations. Baby its cold outside, need some more Chivas to warm me up. I'm sorry that I missed Ben Had, but I am glad that the party is still going on.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 14, 2025 02:02 AM (0nHVk)
Welcome back! Did you SEE that silver lame sheath that Ben Had wore? Wooh! She looked so good!
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 02:04 AM (rdVOm)
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Oh, right... you missed her. Dang. She looked very festive!
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 02:05 AM (rdVOm)
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I use my Aunt Belle Chester's Chex mix recipe. It has one of the Chex cereals, Kix cereal, plain Cheerios, skinny pretzels instead of the curled kind, mixed nuts, not peanuts, and I add whole raw pecan halves, too. And of course Worcestershire sauce, butter, and all sorts of spices, including Cayenne pepper and allspice or Chinese 5 spice, and more.
So good.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 14, 2025 02:06 AM (Vvh2V)
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Am sure others also pick what interests them most.
Posted by: JQ
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All good. Some read all, some none, and between. And it's easier to copy/paste - which sometimes things get missed/errors. Better than and open tag! Those are harder to find.
Posted by: scampydog at December 14, 2025 02:12 AM (41CYW)
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LOL, Doggo. The whole ONT is awesome tonight, 3Ds really rocked it this time.
One little mistake! Bah, whatever.
Heh, reminds me of a naughty little Christmas ditty that I found earlier... nsfw...
https://youtu.be/6U2XdkBkTTk
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 02:18 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 02:23 AM (npFr7)
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Love the 70's christmas pic. I see what looks like the small spare TV on top of the console TV that probably stopped working.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 14, 2025 02:38 AM (snZF9)
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There were many guesses, as to the reason for dual-tvs, Bers. LOL
How was *your* party? I suppose it was LOUD. And fun!
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 02:40 AM (rdVOm)
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That "F... it" picture, though... some days I totally get it.
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 02:43 AM (rdVOm)
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Good night AOP, I am headed to bed too, little family Christmas get together was postponed until tomorrow. I am tired, JQ and the three D's did one heck of a job tonight. I missed Miklos tonight. Bers, I hope that your party was a blast. Sweet dreams Horde.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 14, 2025 02:46 AM (0nHVk)
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Well, my house is still standing, no food on the walls, or floors, and nobody died. I'm calling it a win. Party went good. I'm sitting on 3 1/2 cases of beer, because nobody touched the 3 cases I bought and brought a shitload of their own. Somebody brought a shit ton of mead, the good stuff from Denmark, so we consumed copious amounts. The last person just left. I'm not even tired.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 14, 2025 02:46 AM (snZF9)
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'Night, AOP and Debby. Glad you could make it!
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 02:51 AM (rdVOm)
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How was *your* party? I suppose it was LOUD. And fun!
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 02:40 AM (rdVOm)
Yeah it was pretty epic, and yeah at times loud.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 14, 2025 02:52 AM (snZF9)
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Great party, maybe I should have mingled more, but I've been hanging out with Bella & Luna talking pet thread.
Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at December 14, 2025 03:20 AM (KaHlS)
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reminds me of a med school holiday punch from back last century; Hawaiian Punch & Everclear, with blobs of cranberry sauce floating in it ....
representing serum & blood clots.
thx, g'bye
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 14, 2025 03:24 AM (Cjt/F)
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Cat stayed outside last night & it wasn't terribly cold. He caught a hot breakfast and left a helluva mess by the patio door: feathers e-v-e-r-ywhere! Had to get the blower out 'cause broom wasn't very effective. LOL.
Critters. Gotta love 'em!
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 03:26 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Skip at December 14, 2025 04:02 AM (Ia/+0)
Saturday Evening Movie Thread - 12/13/2025
Promised but Never Delivered
Movie studios have been trying to build franchises out of almost every major special effects spectacle since the 80s. It's the Star Wars and Indiana Jones influence. One film's box office gold is supposed to lead to another and another until everything just runs out of gas. And so, Hollywood is littered with purported starts to franchises that failed to go past the first entry. The Rocketeer, Lost in Space, The Dark Tower, they all ended with promises of further adventures that never came to be.
However, there are two over the past roughly fifteen years that hold special places in my heart, a pair of films so different from each other that are both considered huge box office bombs (one, the largest ever for a time) that I still yearn for sequels to. Now, just to make this clear...I do not think these sequels will ever materialize. One may...have a 1% chance of happening if lightning strikes the same spot fifteen times in a row, but otherwise, no. I don’t think these sequels will ever get made. The franchises are dead, and they will probably never be resurrected.
Those are: John Carter and King Arthur: Legend of the Sword. Both were big, wildly expensive spectacles based on tales old before any of the creatives were born. The first, based on the first of the Barsoom novels, A Princess of Mars, by Edgar Rice Burroughs, and the second a mishmash (let's be honest, every telling of King Arthur is a mishmash) of Arthurian legends. And I just...jive with them. I kind of love the former, and I really like the latter, and I've seen far worse films get sequels.
Box Office Failure
Let's get this out of the way: the tale of two studios spending way too much money on movies that they shouldn’t have spent too much on.
John Carter was the first live action feature film directed by Andrew Stanton, the PIXAR director who made Finding Nemo and WALL-E. Disney wanted a franchise to compete with the likes of Star Wars, so they gave Stanton, trusted creative, carte blanche to make a wildly expensive sci-fi adventure based on the granddaddy of sci-fi adventures. But...everything went wrong.
Stanton, with no experience in live-action films, essentially filmed the movie twice, making the film wildly, wildly expensive when it should have just had one wildly, at most. Months before the release of the film, Disney acquired the Marvel rights and were already talking to George Lucas about buying Star Wars, so the need for a boys’ adventure sci-fi series died out (and then they put Kathleen Kennedy in charge, which is another thing altogether). Stanton was given control of the marketing, and he approved some of the worst trailers for the film, selling the movie as some sort of somber experience without any real build up within the trailers themselves. Taylor Kitsch's miscasting (I think he’s...fine in the role, but he doesn't have the easy charm John Carter probably should have) became a central reason for critics to crap all over the film. And then the film is based on the granddaddy of sci-fi pulp, the kind of old story that has DNA is most modern sci-fi and fantasy today, making it decidedly old fashioned and feeling derivative.
Honestly, it doesn't surprise me that it was a box office bomb, but I fought the idea for weeks after its release, hoping against hope that there would be some great resurgence of interest in the property several weeks after release and everyone knowing it was a giant failure. My hopes were not answered.
King Arthur: Legend of the Sword is a contrasting tale of failure, though, starting with the fact that the trailers for the film are actually really good. I think they sell it well, making it look exciting and fun without any sort of misdirection towards the audience. Guy Ritchie, the director, had a history of bringing his hyperactive style to historically set films in his two Robert Downey Jr. starring Sherlock Holmes films, a connection which the trailers promote. And, it failed to make its production budget back, sources saying that Warner Bros. Lost $150 million on the movie. That's a lot of money, so the planned six film series was canceled after only one.
I think the explanation for King Arthur’s failure largely stems from the fact that mass audiences don't seem that interested in medieval fantasy films. There is one major exception in The Lord of the Rings (and The Hobbit), but medieval fantasy in general just doesn't seem to be a natural fit with mass audiences. They tend to eschew them rather them embrace them. The Chronicles of Narnia films, the first released right alongside The Lord of the Rings, steadily died out after three films. Eragon, based on a popular novel, was a huge bomb. Solomon Kane, based on the Robert E. Howard character, made no money. You can point back to the 80s and films like Excalibur, but that only made $35 million (a profit for the $11 million film, granted). The 80s were probably the height of the medieval fantasy genre's popularity across the board, and not even Conan the Barbarian hit $100 million (the modern telling, released in 2011, made about $60 million off of a $90 million budget).
I mean, I really like medieval fantasy. I jive with it. But mass audiences don't seem all that keen on it.
The Future that Never Was
So, what would have been? What if Disney hadn’t been buying Star Wars and had decided to back John Carter completely? What if Stanton had managed his set better and spent half as much money? What if audiences had just decided to give King Arthur a shot? What would we have seen?
Well, the easy one to answer is John Carter's supposed sequels. John Carter follows the basic plot of A Princess of Mars quite closely. There are additions, like the Therns gain a lot more prevalence in this early story than in Burroughs' series, and some specifics around transportation between Earth and Barsoom gets created, but in the larger plot points. It's A Princess of Mars. So, what would the second movie have been? Well, largely The Gods of Mars, the tale of what John Carter does when he returns to Barsoom ten years later. It would tell of the fight against Iss, the self-proclaimed goddess of Mars, the Black Pirates, the Therns, and Zondanga with Carter reconnecting with his friend Tars Tarkas, his wife Dejah Thoris, and meeting his son, Cathoris, as recklessly brave as his father. And then, the planned sequel would have seen the adaptation of The Warlord of Mars which sees John Carter becoming ruler of the entire planet.
I'm sure Stanton would have kept the basic narrative bones and rearranged a lot of details, but it's not hard to imagine where that series would have gone, and it would have entertained me greatly.
The more interesting question, though, is around King Arthur. As I said, any tale of King Arthur at this point is a mishmash of legend, Romance, and history, so there's no "true" telling of it. Le Morte d’Arthur by Thomas Malory disagrees in many details with Geoffrey of Monmouth's sketches in Historia Regum Britanniae. And it's a tale that’s been told by many, many people over more than a thousand years. Ritchie turning it into a cross between Conan the Barbarian and Ritchie's own low-level gangster movies was a definite creative choice to push Arthur in a new direction, but he also barely scratched the surface of the established tales while adding his own twists.
We only see Merlin once, in a flashback, and we don't even see his face. The character called Mage was originally written as Guinevere, but any mention of her being Arthur's future wife were scrubbed out of the edit and through ADR, so they could still re-introduce her. Morgan le Fay is never even mentioned. There is a character called Mordred in the beginning, killed in the prologue, but that doesn't preclude the introduction in a later edition of the traditional Mordred (Arthur’s son/nephew by way of Morgan le Fay). In terms of the Knights of the Round Table, we only get Bedivere, Percival, and Tristan. So, no Lancelot, no Gawain, and no Galahad (there are dozens more in the legends over the centuries). Really, sequels were wide open.
And the first sequel I would have liked to see might have gone something like this: Merlin and Morgan le Fay are in combat in the north, a war of mages far from Camelot. Lancelot comes from France to challenge the knights at a tourney (being a Guy Ritchie film, there would be bare-knuckle boxing). Lancelot is big, strong, and arrogant, and he is also the only man who could be Arthur’s equal in combat. They bond over beating each other up, but Lancelot has a secret that even he doesn’t know: he’s being manipulated by Morgan le Fay into acting as a distraction. Merlin sends Mage (not Guinevere) to ask for help. The second act is breaking Lancelot's spell. The third act is a big fight, ala Shadows of the Colossus where Arthur and Lancelot in particular have to climb a giant forest creature, his head and shoulders populated with trees since he's from the earth, to fight Morgan or some heavy at the top. One big, expensive action setpiece later, the knights have added a figure (maybe even Galahad in tow), and we're ready for movie #3.
Never Happening
Really, the two original films I just really enjoy watching. Patrick H. Willems described what he called "vibe movies", movies less about plot and more about just being in the world created by the filmmakers (his central film in his video was Christopher Nolan’s Tenet). And that's kind of how I feel about John Carter and King Arthur: Legend of the Sword in very different ways.
John Carter is a big, earnest, sometimes goofy, old-school adventure film. Its big heart it wearshu unironically on its sleeve as it tells the story of a rootless man finding something to fight for once more. It’s told with color and energy, and I just get on its wavelength and enjoy the somewhat silly ride.
King Arthur's Conan the Barbarian influences (its first shot is of a temple that resembles Thulsa Doom's temple in Milius' film alongside a tower that looks a lot like the Serpent's Tower in the same film, and there’s a lot of snake stuff overall, including a giant snake in the end) mixed with Ritchie's low-level gangster stuff is a weird mix, but it's something I really enjoy. The film is imperfect (the mix is sometimes not that great, a lot of the CGI is fun but feels wasteful and indulgent, and there's an emotional bit for Vortigern, the bad guy, late in the film that's just poorly established), but I still just find myself bobbing my head back and forth to Daniel Pemberton's soundtrack anyway. Structurally, it's actually surprisingly sound, even if Ritchie is throwing things in a blender within individual sequences.
And both movies, I feel, artistically deserved sequels. Mostly because, well, I liked them. And I'd rather have Hollywood spend money to entertain me than making another Fast and Furious movie.
But it was never meant to be. My tastes were always going to be more niche, and that's just the world I live in.
What movies that promised sequels that never materialized do you sometimes still yearn for? b Movies of Today
Where the Sidewalk Ends (Rating 4/4) Full Review "I mean...finally, Preminger works from a script by Ben Hecht. It’s what he needed. " [Plex]
Angel Face (Rating 3/4) Full Review "I think it's solidly good, undone by some late stage choices that grind things to a halt. However, the line on characters, the production itself, and the noirish coat of paint all make Angel Face a compelling drama that Preminger manages well, even if Howard Hughes had hired him to torture Jean Simmons." [Library]
River of No Return (Rating 2.5/4) Full Review "The overall world feels deeply incomplete, and the story itself feels underserved but with some nice payoffs to things set up earlier. It's not good, but it's surprisingly interesting in the end." [Hoopla]
Carmen Jones (Rating 3.5/4) Full Review "It's an odd duck that way, much like a good portion of Preminger's filmography. However, so much is so right that it stands near the top of his work." [Library]
The Man with the Golden Arm (Rating 3/4) Full Review "Adapting work from other mediums, Preminger is finding composed, solid success, although I feel a certain limitation on his ability to push the medium to its fullest potential." [Amazon Prime]
Email any suggestions or questions to thejamesmadison.aos at symbol gmail dot com.
I've also archived all the old posts here, by request. I'll add new posts a week after they originally post at the HQ.
My next thread will be on 1/3 and it will discuss the directing career of Otto Preminger.
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:41 PM (Ia/+0)
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I was not mad at your payers when I posted James 4.
I was just asking that as I here but a minute that the Lord know best how to answer.
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 07:42 PM (gbOdA)
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I liked "John Carter", darn it. Yes, Taylor K. With his flowing locks is not the grim John Carter with the scimitar smile, but he's an appealing actor and gets by on charm. Tars Tarkas and Woola make the movie for me, and the style of the Martian tech is right off an Amazing Stories cover.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 07:42 PM (kpS4V)
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I’ve always been a fan of the Arthurian legend. King Arthur: Legend of the Sword Didn’t do it for me and I don’t even remember why. I just remember being disappointed.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 13, 2025 07:43 PM (u73oe)
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TJM I sadly can't follow your lists of movies by directors, no way to pull movies out like that.
Really think am getting something out of your videos as never looked at movies much more than Entertainment
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:44 PM (Ia/+0)
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Of course so many films and tv shows have borrowed from princess of mars
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:44 PM (bXbFr)
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There was lots more material that a sequel to "Master and Commander" could draw on. Probably not made for the same reason medieval movies don't cut it.
Posted by: Raoul Ortega at December 13, 2025 07:44 PM (BXUnK)
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I liked John Carter; I think it was the marriage of old fashioned fantasy and sci-fi (plus all that desert) that appealed to me. Even as a bomb, it's so vastly superior to the crap Disney is turning out today.
I liked The Rocketeer, too; didn't know that one or more sequels originally had been contemplated.
Posted by: Paco at December 13, 2025 07:45 PM (2L+MU)
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I recently rewatched Excalibur. It’s more a fever dream than a movie.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 13, 2025 07:45 PM (u73oe)
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James 4 14 - 16
me
we are here and gone
so dont ask of G D
ask G D will
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 07:45 PM (gbOdA)
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You would think with guy ritchies tast for posh surtoundings
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:45 PM (bXbFr)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:46 PM (bXbFr)
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Heck Ya!... I liked the Princess of Mars (John Carter) Movie.
I never figured out why the "critics" hated on this simple Movie.
DF1
Been Creepin' on Ace for 10 years, finally had to post.
Posted by: DFrosty1 at December 13, 2025 07:46 PM (1p2AI)
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Guy Ritchie's movie sorta works if you remove all the Arthurian stuff and make it a generic/new fantasy setting.
It's the Arthurian roots that make me reject this movie. I mean, it hardly has Merlin, it makes Arthur grow up around whores and pimps (such nobility and role models!) and it has Kung Fu George. Fucking Kung Fu George in Arthurian England.
*eyetwitch*
John Carter was silly when it should have been exciting and chaste when it should have been sexy. I never have managed to finish it, I just bounce off the first half hour every time. IMO, it's just too stupid to live.
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Of course "John Carter" needed to have the costuming from the books, especially for the Princess of Mars. But then it'd would probably need an R rating.
Posted by: Raoul Ortega at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (BXUnK)
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Seriously, if Hollywood was really wholly into girlboss characters at least SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE would have done Anne McCaffery "Dragonriders of Pern", but NOOOOOOOOOO because that series had "normal" M/F relationships where each pair STRENGTHENED each other!
Sorry, real bitter that Dragonriders has never been made into a movie!
-SLV
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (e/Osv)
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'The 80s were probably the height of the medieval fantasy genre's popularity across the board'
Well, yeah. All of us Dungeons and Dragons playing teenagers liked that stuff.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (fd80v)
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Miguel, I liked the period intro, if you mean Carter's message to his nephew(?).
I didn't like the stupid trope of Carter having a wife who died in his arms. It's that "let's kill off someone for easy pathos and sympathy for the lead character" crap. And it wasn't in the book.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (kpS4V)
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It doesnt follow the book but i dont think yoi could sewuentially do so
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (bXbFr)
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My brother and I could make Vegas Vaca for hlaf the $$$
and twice the money
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 07:48 PM (gbOdA)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 07:48 PM (Kt19C)
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If they had done John Carter faithfully, it wouldn't be a family movie. Aside from the violence, there would have been bewbs everywhere - red Martian bewbs, green Martian bewbs, white Martian bewbs....
Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 07:48 PM (i85MS)
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28 Promethius and the three bears.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 07:48 PM (Kt19C)
this zenomorphe is just right
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 07:48 PM (gbOdA)
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12 TJM I sadly can't follow your lists of movies by directors, no way to pull movies out like that.
Really think am getting something out of your videos as never looked at movies much more than Entertainment
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:44 PM (Ia/+0)
A lot, but not all, of those movies can found online. Either at Archive.org, or Ok.Ru.
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:50 PM (Ia/+0)
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Probably you would need two films likd the way villeneuvr sectioned dune
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:51 PM (bXbFr)
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The common elements to these film makers are valuable
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:52 PM (bXbFr)
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16 I recently rewatched Excalibur. It’s more a fever dream than a movie.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 13, 2025 07:45 PM (u73oe
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Arrow is releasing a 4K in a few months.
Preordered.
Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 07:52 PM (GBKbO)
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I just got HD TV and it certainly has possibly I haven't explored.
Said my main channel TCM it won't let me see without a subscription now. If I had normal channel I could. Still see one of the local.movie channels in non HD
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:53 PM (Ia/+0)
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31 12 TJM I sadly can't follow your lists of movies by directors, no way to pull movies out like that.
Really think am getting something out of your videos as never looked at movies much more than Entertainment
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:44 PM (Ia/+0)
A lot, but not all, of those movies can found online. Either at Archive.org, or Ok.Ru.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at December 13, 2025 07:49Pre-ordered.
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Google leads the way.
Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 07:53 PM (GBKbO)
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22 Of course "John Carter" needed to have the costuming from the books, especially for the Princess of Mars. But then it'd would probably need an R rating.
Posted by: Raoul Ortega at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (BXUnK)
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Eh.
The original art leaned heavily towards Egyptian. Frazetta was decades later.
Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 07:54 PM (GBKbO)
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SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE would have done Anne McCaffery "Dragonriders of Pern"
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (e/Osv)
^^THIS^^
So many great books that could have been made into movies! Heck, Pern could have been a 10 year series, based on the number of books.
Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 07:54 PM (i85MS)
43John Carter was a good film if you'd read the books.
I read the first two.
I enjoyed the film.
But Disney didn't know how to market it, and most of the population had never heard of John Carter or the Princess of Mars, and it looked like a cheesy alien kids movie in the trailers.
There was also that 'Mars Curse' on Disney as Mars Needs Moms had bombed badly not too long before.
I wish they'd made a sequel to the film as the basic story is pretty interesting and the way John Carter travels to Mars so mysteriously and then comes back to Earth just as mysteriously and with decades having passed.
It could have made a decent franchise if done right, or at least a TV series.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 07:55 PM (6ydKt)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:55 PM (bXbFr)
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33 TJM, what's that FunkoPop and license plate on your bookshelf?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 07:49 PM (kpS4V)
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Funko is Doc Brown with the mind reader on his head. Junior's. A gift from a while ago.
Plate is OUTATIME, also from Back to the Future.
Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 07:55 PM (GBKbO)
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^^THIS^^
So many great books that could have been made into movies! Heck, Pern could have been a 10 year series, based on the number of books.
Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 07:54 PM (i85MS)
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Considering how Wheel of Time was butchered by Amazon, I don't trust ANY modern studio to give classic works a proper treatment on either the small or large screen.
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Yeah, there's a lot of flat-out nekkidness in the Barsoom stories, and that ain't happening onscreen.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 07:56 PM (kpS4V)
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I just watched the latest Knives Out movie, Wake Up Dead Man and quite liked it, much more than Glass Onion and even more than the original. Part of this is because I like shows about ordinary people much more than those about the rich and famous. Part because it is set in a small Catholic parish church. And the plot is an impossible murder referencing John Dickson Carr. Some may see it as sacrilegious or even blasphemous but I don't. So, recommended.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 07:57 PM (L/fGl)
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The thing about Master and Commander, it could easily have had sequels, but I never felt the need for them.
I wanted them, but the original film felt complete at the same time.
And I don't think any sequel would have matched it.
Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 07:57 PM (GBKbO)
50 I see shorts for these little Peacock and Netflix and Hulu series and in every one of them, people are screaming at each other or accusing each other of malfeasance or betrayal or infidelity. Dinners always feature some dark revelation or hatred for someone else. Nobody is polite or charitable or supportive or loving. The dialogue may be sardonic but never funny. What is it with the producers and writers of these things?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 07:58 PM (tgvbd)
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'Yeah, there's a lot of flat-out nekkidness in the Barsoom stories, and that ain't happening onscreen.'
Yeah. All the college age men would hate that.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 07:59 PM (fd80v)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:59 PM (bXbFr)
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"The Rocketeer" is a perfect movie, and unless the sequels were also perfect, I'm glad it's a one-shot.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 07:59 PM (kpS4V)
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Saw John Carter when it first came out -- kinda liked it, but would have to see it again. People hating it? Well, okay, everything is hated by somebody, but I don't recall it was anywhere near bad enough to rate the abuse it got.
The flick I'd have liked to see become a franchise was Remo Williams. Fred Ward and Joel Grey were delightful in it.
McCaffrey's Pern? Would make a NICE series of films, but what would our current crop of enlightened filmmakers do to it on its way to the screen? One shudders to think.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 08:00 PM (q3u5l)
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Considering how Wheel of Time was butchered by Amazon, I don't trust ANY modern studio to give classic works a proper treatment on either the small or large screen.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 07:56 PM (ESVrU)
Perfessor, I hate to have to agree, but you are so, so, so sadly correct. In the 80's-90's I think I would have expected the studios to do a good job (or maybe a campy job -like several of the Fantastic 4's of the time), but now, sad to say, I don't trust Hollywood, AT ALL!
-SLV
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 08:01 PM (e/Osv)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:01 PM (bXbFr)
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Yeah i like remo williams fred ward as an action star whatever joel grey was doing
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:02 PM (bXbFr)
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So glad you mentioned John Carter. I thought I was about the only one who enjoyed it. Haven't been to a movie theater since the 2003 release of Return of the King but do get DVDs now and then and this was one. Damn! What a fun movie. Old style adventure, plenty of humor but not a parody like the Batman TV series. And great special effects. The more I learned critics hated it the more I wanted to see it. Once again: my preference 1, critics 0. Lynn Collins completed the appeal.
Sorry I didn't see it on a big screen.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 08:03 PM (yTvNw)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:03 PM (bXbFr)
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Been some time now, year maybe read someone was trying for a pre-quil of Patrick O'Brian story Master and Commander. Obviously the original actors have to be replaced
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 08:04 PM (Ia/+0)
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I don't know it was the medieval setting that killed Narnia, so much as the movie makers. The first was quite good. The 2nd just wasn't; enough worse that I never bothered with the 3rd.
Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 08:04 PM (s0JqF)
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The thing about Master and Commander, it could easily have had sequels, but I never felt the need for them.
I wanted them, but the original film felt complete at the same time.
And I don't think any sequel would have matched it.
Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 07:57 PM (GBKbO)
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I agree. I love the books, but the film was meant to be an homage, and it worked wonderfully.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 13, 2025 08:04 PM (0aYVJ)
>> And I don't think any sequel would have matched it.
Well constructed films don’t need sequels.
Sequels are cash grabs in the main.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 13, 2025 08:05 PM (XV/Pl)
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For my money the sequel that ought to have been was one or more coming after Master and Commander. And there was plenty of material to work from. But I understand it lost $. Why, I don't know. It's the last movie I really liked.
Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 08:05 PM (s0JqF)
TJM is not a complete effette tool hipster when it comes to film.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:05 PM (zZu0s)
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The Trump lyes abouts my Black Presdent T shits is be back in stock.
Gets yoors befoor they be gone.
Posted by: Mary Cloggistein from Brattleboro, Vt at December 13, 2025 08:05 PM (ySHsh)
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Sequels I wanted: The Last Starfighter, Come and See, Time Bandits
Sequels I didn't want: Rocky V, Star Wars 6, Jaws 2 and 3D.
Posted by: LGBTQ+POC, ANTI RACIST HERO at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (PHmbR)
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Speaking of franchises, the Critical Drinker does Starfleet Academy.
https://is.gd/3zNZ9c
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (L/fGl)
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Also two great sets of books that could be made into a whole slew of movies or series':
The Miles Vorkosigan books from Lois McMaster Bujold. It's ... well, I can't describe it except to say he pulls a lot of shenanigans to solve problems. Pulling them off relies partly on his brains, people's tendency to mis-underestimate him, and some connection to power.
The Chanur novels of C.J. Cherryh. Her aliens are not just humans in rubber suits, but think differently. The Cuckoo's Egg could also be done, if it was done right. I doubt her Foreigner novels would translate well to film, though you might try them as animated movies.
Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (nuE1e)
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I liked John Carter as well , but yes it needed way more boobs.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (k5cxK)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:07 PM (bXbFr)
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72 John Carter was but needed to be tighter. It is hard to do and set up the story, but it drug too long on earth (and overall, honestly.)
Like the movie though.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:07 PM (zZu0s
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I'd recast Carter and eliminate the Barsoom prologue. The earth stuff i dig.
Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:08 PM (GBKbO)
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Speaking of Bewbs, I always liked the Robert Mitchum - Marilyn movie on the river. Mitchum is one of my all time favorites.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 08:08 PM (k5cxK)
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I liked John Carter as well , but yes it needed way more boobs.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (k5cxK)
In this case, I cannot think of a gal who would fit Boris' vision who would have done better. The gal in the movie is a knock out. And plays it straight with no cheese or ham.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:08 PM (zZu0s)
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Umm, so speaking of movies. I'm streaming Tubi (cut the other cord about a year ago).
So did anyone know there was a "Conan the Barbarian" movie released in 2011 starring Jason Mamoa?
-SLV
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 08:09 PM (e/Osv)
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It looks more like Starfleet Saved By The Bell.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:09 PM (6ydKt)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 13, 2025 08:10 PM (XV/Pl)
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The John Carter movie was really a very good movie, too bad it was hammered by the critics. Call it what you will, marketing is paramount, but the casting was excellent and the cinematography was top notch. It's hard to fuck up a production as well made as this was.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 13, 2025 08:10 PM (1zOXE)
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Filming movies back to back is a great way to ensure continuity, if the money is there to do it.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 08:10 PM (kpS4V)
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One of my favorite Preminger's is Anatomy of a Murder.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 08:10 PM (L/fGl)
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I'd recast Carter and eliminate the Barsoom prologue. The earth stuff i dig.
Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:08 PM (GBKbO)
Hmmm. Yeah, that could work too. Just tell it from Carter's POV? I like it. Would match the book.
But I still think even doing that that the earth stuff would drag. Cut the will part. Until the end. Reveal that the kid is reading Carters account.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:10 PM (zZu0s)
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Don't think I ever saw that particular King Arthur movie. I have seen the John Carter flick quite a few times. It grew on me. Lynn Collins is one pretty gal and that helped me watch it more than once. It's a solid action flick with a good story.
And Lynn Collins is hot!
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 08:11 PM (rii+a)
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77 Umm, so speaking of movies. I'm streaming Tubi (cut the other cord about a year ago).
So did anyone know there was a "Conan the Barbarian" movie released in 2011 starring Jason Mamoa?
-SLV
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 08:09 PM (e/Osv)
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Even mentioned it in the content.
I saw it on theaters (the dollar theater, to be honest), and i own the 3D Blu-ray.
Its...okay.
Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:11 PM (GBKbO)
The Miles Vorkosigan books from Lois McMaster Bujold.
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LOVED the Miles books!!!!!!!!
-SLV
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 08:11 PM (e/Osv)
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Considering how Wheel of Time was butchered by Amazon, I don't trust ANY modern studio to give classic works a proper treatment on either the small or large screen.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 07:56 PM (ESVrU)
I never read Wheel Of Time, so I was baffled by the complaints many had. But I will absolutely agree with your assessment.
If someone wrote ME a very large check to make Pern (or Chanur, or Miles Vorkosigan) I would certainly do it justice. I'm a visual reader and have built the scenes in my mind for years.
Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 08:11 PM (K1PX7)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:14 PM (bXbFr)
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It would have been fun to explore the other subcultures of Barsoom, like the technophile Black Martians and the polar Yellow Martians, the people living on one of the moons, and heck, toss in the Skeleton Men of Jupiter.
And the mad scientist creating men from a vat of fleshy goo or doing brain transplants would be a laff riot.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 08:15 PM (kpS4V)
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Speaking of movies, "Duel" is on Svengoolie.
Posted by: fd
For starting out as a second banana on Gunsmoke, Dennis Weaver did all right for himself.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 08:16 PM (L/fGl)
95 One of my favorite Preminger's is Anatomy of a Murder.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 08:10 PM (L/fGl)
Another good book ruined by Otto Preminger
Anatomy of a Murder: ruined
Advise and Consent: ruined
In Harm's Way: ruined
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 08:16 PM (tgvbd)
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John Carter is a mystery to me as well. I avoided in its theatrical run, based on the near-universal panning it received.
A while back it came up a suggested freebie in Amazon Prime Video. "What the hell... I can just turn it off when it starts to suck." (see: "The Rings of Power".. I rejected that one less than ten minutes in).
To my surprise, it didn't suck at all. I've seen far, far, worse F&SF movies. I completely agree that it's sequel-worthy (as you suggest, Burroughs wrote about a billion of those books, so it's not like there's a shortage of material).
In regard to Master and Commander, I think one reason it was failed to garner any awards was that it was up against the juggernaut of The Return of the King. That probably hurt it at the box office at least some, too,
A fine, fine film, which I need to watch again.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:16 PM (IG3/x)
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91 The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension needed a sequel. It was even mentioned at the end of the movie.
Posted by: MichiCanuck at December 13, 2025 08:13 PM (VoMie)
Camp-y movies of the 80-90 period were FUN, as opposed to MANY movies these days. I greatly enjoyed Buckaroo.
-SLV
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 08:16 PM (e/Osv)
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The books are tailor made for movies. Being episodic. Periodic narrative changes as this or that guy become the protagonist of a book.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:17 PM (zZu0s)
99
True, I was waiting for years for the sequel to Buckaroo Banzai.
I guess it was too far out there and didn't make enough money.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:17 PM (6ydKt)
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In regard to Master and Commander, I think one reason it was failed to garner any awards was that it was up against the juggernaut of The Return of the King. That probably hurt it at the box office at least some, too,
A fine, fine film, which I need to watch again.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:16 PM (IG3/x)
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Peter Weir is an artist, and timing killed his best chances at that Oscar.
M&C is a masterpiece. Love it so much.
Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:18 PM (GBKbO)
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Sorry I didn't see it on a big screen.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 08:03 PM (yTvNw)
That's one of the other bits. John Carter is a BIG SCREEN flick. Or it should be. Something to make vast red deserts look really vast, and 4-armed Martians leaping out from the rocks look huge and terrifying.
Pern would have to be. It's about flying dragons in the sky and dogfighting with them. If you shot it to look right on a TV, it would suffer.
Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 08:18 PM (K1PX7)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:20 PM (bXbFr)
103
Zelazny's Amber books would make a nice series of flicks.
So would Lawrence Block's Matt Scudders -- two were done, one with Jeff Bridges and the other with Liam Neeson (the better of the two). But no series of films, darn it.
So would John D. MacDonald's Travis McGees -- two were done, one with Rod Taylor and one for television with Sam Elliott. No series of films, darn it. Taylor's, Darker Than Amber, is worth a watch just for the absolutely brutal fight sequence between Taylor and William Smith at the finish. No stunt doubles.
Quite a few films from Westlake's Parker novels, but they're all over the map.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 08:20 PM (q3u5l)
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Carter of Mars was an extremely difficult project to adapt. It just was doomed from the start. Admirable failure but a failure nonetheless.
Posted by: weft cut loop at December 13, 2025 08:21 PM (mlg/3)
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Hi all,
Speaking of sequels. Did anyone watch the Spinal Tap sequel? I didn't even realized it had been made but saw something about it recently. I presume it doesn't work but maybe others differ?
Some good movies I've seen recently are TRAIN DREAMS, NOUVELLE VAGUE, SENTIMENTAL VALUE, IT WAS ONLY AN ACCIDENT, NO OTHER CHOICE and watching JAY KELLY now.
I think TRAIN DREAMS will be my #1 for the year, though there are dozens I haven't seen which I should.
Posted by: Lex at December 13, 2025 08:21 PM (y4H1r)
Posted by: Don Black at December 13, 2025 08:22 PM (ZxPkt)
115 Advice and consent was not easy to adapt
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:20 PM (bXbFr)
Allen Drury was so disgusted by what happened to his book that he refused to sell the film rights of any of his others.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 08:23 PM (tgvbd)
116
Oh, and yeah, the Martians in the books are way more nekkid than they are in the movie (this is Disney)... both men and women wear nothing but a sort of harness on which they can hang weapons and jewelry.
"And the sight which met my eyes was that of a slender, girlish figure,
similar in every detail to the earthly women of my past life. She did
not see me at first, but just as she was disappearing through the
portal of the building which was to be her prison she turned, and her
eyes met mine. Her face was oval and beautiful in the extreme, her
every feature was finely chiseled and exquisite, her eyes large and
lustrous and her head surmounted by a mass of coal black, waving hair,
caught loosely into a strange yet becoming coiffure. Her skin was of a
light reddish copper color, against which the crimson glow of her
cheeks and the ruby of her beautifully molded lips shone with a
strangely enhancing effect.
She was as destitute of clothes as the green Martians who accompanied
her; indeed, save for her highly wrought ornaments she was entirely
naked, nor could any apparel have enhanced the beauty of her perfect
and symmetrical figure."
-- A Princess of Mars
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:24 PM (IG3/x)
117
The sequel they should have made but Hollywood hates us is Dredd.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:22 PM (KDPiq)
The one with Stallone or the one with Karl Urban?
I like them both.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:24 PM (6ydKt)
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Also, the guy they had as the loyal lieutenant in Barsoom. Also was in Solomon Kane. I like that actor.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:24 PM (zZu0s)
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I really liked John Carter. Especially the ending. I can't help it that audiences don't know good movies when they see them.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:24 PM (KDPiq)
120
"Well I didn't vote for you."
Posted by: Don Black at December 13, 2025 08:22 PM (ZxPkt)
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I thought we were an autonomous collective!"
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 08:24 PM (kpS4V)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:24 PM (zZu0s)
122
Patrick Willems? I got blocked by Willems after reminding him that he said people shouldn't hate on Stars Wars Ep 8 because it is a 'children's story about space wizards' when he was losing his mind over Ep 9. Good times
Posted by: ILikeEmScurvy at December 13, 2025 08:25 PM (IMskL)
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Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:24 PM (6ydKt)
Urban.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:25 PM (KDPiq)
124The sequel they should have made but Hollywood hates us is Dredd.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:22 PM (KDPiq)
I saw that movie twice at the theater, I like it so much. And at popular viewing times.
The first time during it's opening weekend, I was the only one in the theater.
The second time, there was one other person watching the movie.
There's no way that was ever going to get a sequel.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 13, 2025 08:25 PM (iJfKG)
125Pern would have to be. It's about flying dragons in the sky and dogfighting with them and rape
Fixed it, on Anne McCaffery's behalf
Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:25 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 13, 2025 08:26 PM (Mk6+b)
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I would have liked another Riddick movie but he's too old now.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:26 PM (KDPiq)
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128 I would have liked another Riddick movie but he's too old now.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:26 PM (KDPiq
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Another one is being made, actually.
Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:27 PM (GBKbO)
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As for John Carter, I'll always wonder how come it didn't get an anime treatment.
Michael Kogge seems to be about to fill that need.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:27 PM (gKWVE)
131
Who else think Stargate and John Carter had a lot of similarities?
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:28 PM (KDPiq)
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Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:24 PM (6ydKt)
Urban.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:25 PM (KDPiq)
The darker version.
It's good for that.
The campy Stallone version with Diane Lane isn't bad either.
A sequel to Demolition Man would've been nice.
But it seems we're living through it, instead.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:28 PM (6ydKt)
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61 I don't know it was the medieval setting that killed Narnia, so much as the movie makers. The first was quite good. The 2nd just wasn't; enough worse that I never bothered with the 3rd.
Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 08:04 PM (s0JqF)
I’m surprised Hollywood even attempted it. I’m no Narnia fanboy but how they can make that series with such disdain for its Christian themes I can’t imagine. I think that is why they stopped where they did.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 08:28 PM (4786I)
I mean, it doesn't get much better than that.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:25 PM (6ydKt)
Joe Johnston was the director. He also did the first Captain America movie. You can see it when you know it. Both are genuine and play it without irony or sarcasm. A rarity these days.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:28 PM (zZu0s)
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Skip next time you're in San Diego you should visit the ship used (built?) for Master & Commander, it's part of the maritime museum down in the harbor. Actually, I should visit it too. There's a good "making of" video about that movie that discusses the ship and the realism/accuracy of many details. Definitely one of the better movies of recent decades.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2025 08:28 PM (U/Byj)
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (LHPAg)
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There was a sequel to Urban's Dredd in the works, with Urban, but apparently it died on the vine.
Posted by: davidt at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (Q+gd/)
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130 As for John Carter, I'll always wonder how come it didn't get an anime treatment.
Michael Kogge seems to be about to fill that need.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:27 PM (gKWVE)
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The earliest attempt to adapt it was in the 30s, and it would have been animated.
Theater owners convinced the producer to kill it, though. Told them people wouldn't accept something so fanciful.
It would have predated Snow White as the first feature length animated film.
Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (Mk6+b)
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Advice and consent was not easy to adapt
Posted by: Miguel cervantes
That book and movie is homophobic!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (L/fGl)
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It may be an irony (Alanis can correct me) but one reason John Carter flopped is everyone thought it was ripping off Dune, Stargate, Star Wars, and/or Flash Gordon
Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (gKWVE)
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> Zelazny's Amber books would make a nice series of flicks.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 08:20 PM (q3u5l)
We have the technology to pull those off now, but please let them not be made until the woke mania dies out.
I don't think I could handle a handicapped, retarded, transgendered Corwin of color.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (IG3/x)
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Another one is being made, actually.
Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:27 PM (GBKbO)
Lot of AI I imagine.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (KDPiq)
145
Speaking of Capra, this week we watched American Madness. Had never seen it, or even heard of it until someone mentioned it on here. I think. Good ol' Capra! YooToob has it to rent or buy, but somebody posted in for free:
https://youtu.be/PHe4AMjkozs
Also watched, last week or so, Jules, a low-key SF, almost fantasy, movie. Ben Kingsley stars as a reclusive old man with slight onset of old-timer's. Satisfying. Don't read about it, don't watch a trailer, just cue it up and watch. YooToob has it to rent or buy, but somebody posted in for free:
https://youtu.be/-CfqCY9V4DQ
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Angel Face (Rating 3/4) Full Review "I think it's solidly good, undone by some late stage choices that grind things to a halt. However, the line on characters, the production itself, and the noirish coat of paint all make Angel Face a compelling drama that Preminger manages well, even if Howard Hughes had hired him to torture Jean Simmons." [Library]
forget where/when I heard this, (perhaps a Mitchum docu?) but Otto had Mitchum slap Jean Simmons, and kept wanting him to do it, over and over. Well, after about 3rd or 4th take, Jean was crying and if IIRC, Otto wanted more takes. Mitchum said, no, no more, and if you keep pushing this, I will get you fired....that was that... I so respect Robert for doing that...
Posted by: zigggggy at December 13, 2025 08:30 PM (/Pwrg)
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118 Also, the guy they had as the loyal lieutenant in Barsoom. Also was in Solomon Kane. I like that actor.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:24 PM (zZu0s)
Hmmm, Robert E Howard's "Soloman Kane" deserves at least as much attention as his "Conan" books. Kull got a movie, but Soloman was deeper than Conan or Kull.
-SLV
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 08:30 PM (e/Osv)
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142 It may be an irony (Alanis can correct me) but one reason John Carter flopped is everyone thought it was ripping off Dune, Stargate, Star Wars, and/or Flash Gordon
Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (gKWVE)
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Disney killed it. Terrible marketing and they didn't lean on critics.
They had bought Marvel and were buying Star Wars. John Carter wasn't necessary on a corporate level anymore.
Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:31 PM (GBKbO)
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Thx TJM.
John Carter is a fun movie. Never saw that particular Arthurian movie, but anything in the he realm must be compared to Excalibur. Boorman was a very interesting director.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 08:31 PM (D+mpw)
150
Daniel Baldwin took Ben Kingsley to acting school.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 13, 2025 08:31 PM (Mk6+b)
151
Recently watched Odd Thomas. That should have been a franchise . Of course the actor died too soon.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:33 PM (KDPiq)
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"I don't think I could handle a handicapped, retarded, transgendered Corwin of color."
I'll second that. And that's what we'd probably get from the current crop of geniuses at the studios.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 08:33 PM (q3u5l)
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rhomboid I didn't know it was in the USA, think it was built in France
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 08:33 PM (Ia/+0)
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Excalibur fascinated me as a kid.
It was filmed quite beautifully.
The story is timeless.
And a young-ish Patrick Stewart as a knight in one scene.
I think that's the only thing I've seen him in before ST:TNG.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:33 PM (6ydKt)
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79 Are Bond Films sequels?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 13, 2025 08:10 PM (XV/Pl)
They are not supposed to be.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 08:34 PM (4786I)
156 Speaking of "Dune", I would've loved a David Lynch sequel to his first movie.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 13, 2025 08:34 PM (iJfKG)
157
Watched Stalag 17 again for the first time in decades (on Utoob now). Of its time, but otherwise holds up fairly well. One detail I didn't recall was how Shultz says he was a pro wrestler in Cincinnati before the war. Which was a nice historically accurate allusion to how "German" Cincinnati was.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2025 08:34 PM (U/Byj)
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What happened to my Dino de Laurentiis sequel to Flash Gordon??
Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:35 PM (gKWVE)
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I am bereft. The pawn shop quit their sales of DVD's
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 08:35 PM (sDNVV)
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First time I ever heard Carl Orff's O Fortuna and I loved it
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 08:35 PM (L/fGl)
161
Pitch Black is one of the best Sci Fi films of the 21st century.
It had proably the best sound design this side of Ghost in The Darkness.
We used to use Pitch Black to demo 5.1 surround sound.
Speaking of sound design, whatever happened to sound design?
Now all we get is loud, louder and Nolan.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 13, 2025 08:35 PM (XV/Pl)
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I rarely enjoy sequels. I regarded the original three Star Wars films to be one long movie and enjoyed them. Saw the first sequel, the one with Jar Jar Something, and never went back to the franchise. Even the Indiana Jones movies, which were decent, didn't live up to the original film. The best thing about Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade was the interplay of Ford with Sean Connery. The ones that followed Last Crusade were crap. Not bad acting, bad stories.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 08:35 PM (yTvNw)
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The music in Excalibur was used in my fraternity's formal initiation .
Prior to the movie being made.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:36 PM (KDPiq)
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And I gotta say, I kinda liked River of No Return too.
If memory serves, it used to show up on NBC Saturday Night at the Movies in the 60s. Pretty sure that's where I first saw it.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 08:36 PM (q3u5l)
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I liked his sherlock holmes wven though it was really just downey being himself with a strong steampunk element
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:36 PM (bXbFr)
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145 Speaking of Capra, this week we watched American Madness. Had never seen it, or even heard of it until someone mentioned it on here. I think. Good ol' Capra! YooToob has it to rent or buy, but somebody posted in for free:
https://youtu.be/PHe4AMjkozs
Posted by: mindful webworker - film flan at December 13, 2025 08:30 PM (lbDMw)
Oh, indeed, good ol Capra! You can see a few pre- Its a Wonderful life ideas (at the bank, and some other banker saying, your friends won't save you) and a touch of Mr Deeds goes to Town (I believe Walter Huston gives up for a time)
Posted by: zigggggy at December 13, 2025 08:36 PM (/Pwrg)
Posted by: Lex at December 13, 2025 08:36 PM (y4H1r)
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> I think that's the only thing I've seen him in before ST:TNG.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:33 PM (6ydKt)
The first thing I saw him in was as Macro in I, Claudius back in the '70s (also the first time I saw boobs on TV... apparently the local PBS outlet decided it was British, therefore Art).
I didn't know who he was at the time, of course. I watched the series again years later and had a "I know that guy" moment. Then the penny dropped. Patrick Stewart! With hair!
The series holds up quite well, by the way. Just don't expect a lot of fancy special effects, just some first-rate acting and storytelling.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:37 PM (IG3/x)
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Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2025 08:34 PM (U/Byj
Should have cut out the Christmas party dance scene. I call BS.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:37 PM (KDPiq)
170
We pretend crystal skull didnt happen in my house
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:37 PM (bXbFr)
171
I read that somehow Big Trouble in Little China took the place of the Buckaroo Bansai sequel.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 08:38 PM (k5cxK)
172142 It may be an irony (Alanis can correct me) but one reason John Carter flopped is everyone thought it was ripping off Dune, Stargate, Star Wars, and/or Flash Gordon
Posted by: gKWVE
Considering the source material pre-dates all of those, yes. Ironic.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 08:38 PM (rii+a)
173
OK, who wants to see a thread crossover, Perfesser Squirrel and TJM swapping threads? Perfesser does a bit on book-themed movies, and TJM does a bit on books that inspired movies? TJM has to actually talk about the books, though, on Sunday morning, and Perfesser has talk about the movies.
Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 08:38 PM (WMHh6)
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One sequel I found better than the original is Addams Family Values. I love that one.
My Dad heard the name "Pubert" and he just about died laughing.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 13, 2025 08:39 PM (0aYVJ)
175
There are three Indiana Jones movies and a fourth there shall never be.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 08:39 PM (4786I)
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Skip don't know where she was built, but apparently 1970, and used for training. Modified to be highly accurate replica of an 18th century Royal Navy 24-gun frigate.
Really would like to see her some time. Maritime museum prices (like so much) are high, and I no longer have workarounds from military museum where I volunteered.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2025 08:39 PM (U/Byj)
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And I saw and enjoyed "Wicked For Good", which I realize is a tad too gayballz for this crowd.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 08:40 PM (kpS4V)
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Solomon Kane i have not seen all of it. The effects were... not good, but the acting was not bad.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:40 PM (zZu0s)
That could be fun, and I'd bet TJM and the Perfessor could bring it off without even working hard.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 08:40 PM (q3u5l)
180
Finally caught the Dual of Destiny the other night. That movie was a very stupid mess.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 08:40 PM (D+mpw)
181
Bought tickets for a theatrical run (re-run?) of Scrooged on the 16th. Saw it originally in first run theater. That's how it was meant to be seen. Hope there's a good crowd.
There ought to be a Bill Murray calendar. Watch Ghostbusters in October. Watch Scrooged in December. Watch Groundhog Day in February. Watch What About Bob in the Summer. What else?
Still debating whether we want to go to the theater on Christmas Day to see It's a Wonderful Life. Could be fun, even if we do have every frame and sound memorized. (One of my regular prayers, in plaintive Zuzu's voice: "Fix it, Daddy!")
At least the theater is clean, with comfy seats. Theaters could survive and thrive if they just showed old flicks. Anyway, I've thought so for years. Glad to encourage the practice.
182
OK, who wants to see a thread crossover, Perfesser Squirrel and TJM swapping threads? Perfesser does a bit on book-themed movies, and TJM does a bit on books that inspired movies? TJM has to actually talk about the books, though, on Sunday morning, and Perfesser has talk about the movies.
Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 08:38 PM (WMHh6)
Two best book to movies IMO are The Great Santini and Captains Courageous ( even though they changed the ending)
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:41 PM (KDPiq)
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177 And I saw and enjoyed "Wicked For Good", which I realize is a tad too gayballz for this crowd.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 08:40 PM (kpS4V)
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Dolley and I went and saw it.
Neither of us liked it, but I liked it less.
I was just kind of miserable.
Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:41 PM (GBKbO)
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The sequel we really need is "Sharknado 7", or whatever number they're up to. That's a story and set of characters that really have a lot of potential left.
Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 08:41 PM (X5Jzz)
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I think that's the only thing I've seen him in before ST:TNG.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:33 PM (6ydKt)
Even younger in I, Claudius as Sejanus. Even has hair.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:42 PM (zZu0s)
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TJM has to actually talk about the books, though, on Sunday morning, and Perfesser has talk about the movies.
Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 08:38 PM (WMHh6)
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I bet TJM is much more amenable to shorty robes and togas in lieu of pants.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 08:42 PM (kpS4V)
187
Eris, with all the boob talk by the guys I've never figured out why they aren't binge watching Spartacus.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 08:42 PM (sDNVV)
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> 175 There are three Indiana Jones movies and a fourth there shall never be.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 08:39 PM (4786I)
I pretend that the movie Starship Troopers is a completely separate story that just by coincidence has the same name as a classic Heinlein novel.
They have precious little else in common.
Not even nude Denise Richards in her prime compensates for that steaming pile of shite.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:42 PM (IG3/x)
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170 We pretend crystal skull didnt happen in my house
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:37 PM (bXbFr)
You know what pissed me of most (out of many choices) in Crystal Skull? Here we have this highly advanced inter dimensional alien race who have been collecting 12,000 years (we are told) of mankind’s greatest artifacts, from every culture, but at the end the aliens just say “aw fukkit we’re outta here” and they smash everything to bits and go home.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 08:42 PM (k5cxK)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:43 PM (bXbFr)
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way I see it, absolutely. Actually that's part of what I mean by "of its time" - quite a few odd/discordant notes struck, usually related to entertainment, in what is otherwise a "dark" movie. Too many gags and not much dark humor. The character "Animal" is about 25 pounds overweight - very very unlikely by December 1944, and he had been a POW for some time.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2025 08:43 PM (U/Byj)
198
Sequel to Risky Business has to be made!
Posted by: Lex
At least his heart was in the right place.
OnlyFans model tells @outkick’s @JoeKinseyexp that [former Michigan coach] Sherrone Moore offered her season tickets for a foursome with two other only fans models, DM’ed her during halftime of games.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 08:43 PM (L/fGl)
19970 I liked John Carter as well , but yes it needed way more boobs.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (k5cxK)
Just to be clear, do you mean more women exposing their boobs, or hot Martian women with more than two boobs?
Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 08:44 PM (X5Jzz)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:44 PM (bXbFr)
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Patrick Stewart was in Lynch's Dune too iirc. As Gurney Halleck, although I think that character was better in the miniseries.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:44 PM (gKWVE)
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23 Seriously, if Hollywood was really wholly into girlboss characters at least SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE would have done Anne McCaffery "Dragonriders of Pern", but NOOOOOOOOOO because that series had "normal" M/F relationships where each pair STRENGTHENED each other!
Sorry, real bitter that Dragonriders has never been made into a movie!
-SLV
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (e/Osv)
Anne McCaffery was so against anyone touching her work that fan-sites wouldn't even host fanfiction, for fear of legal action. That annoyed me back when I was of an age when I would seek out fanfiction and fanart. But now....Not only do I understand her animosity, I fully support it.
Let Dragonriders of Pern remain as novels, unblemished by idiots trying to 'adapt' them to meet modern sensibilities and or preach today's beliefs...
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 13, 2025 08:44 PM (Lhaco)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:45 PM (zZu0s)
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I am reading Leigh Brackett's Skaith series with Eric John Stark. If it had been written in the 30's it would have been a John Carter pastiche, but when it was written it was more of a nod to Tolkien. It is, however, the basic plan for a D&D campaign, with much better prose. It is also the original "grim-dark" adventure with a possibly positive conclusion
It would make a wonderful series.
I also think Bill Adams and Cecil Brooks' completely unknown Ethan Larkspur books, The Unwound Way and The End of Fame could make a blockbuster series, though it would pretty much take James Cameron's effects crew to do the denouement.
And of course, if there ever was a need for a Logan's Run type series with a happier ending, Tanith Lee's Don't Bite the Sun books would be excellent.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 08:45 PM (rbvCR)
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Didn't Patrick Stewart play Lenin in "Fall of Eagles"? I could look it up, but I'm lazy.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 08:45 PM (kpS4V)
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>>1 Once again, no Summer School starring Mark Harmon.
Dear Lord, Duke, I saw that on TV in my misspent youth!
Posted by: Nazdar at December 13, 2025 08:46 PM (NcvvS)
TubiTV has The Last Train, with Jean Louis Trintignant and the merely cosmically lovely Romy Schneider. It's from Simenon's novel The Train, which I've not read in too long. Not a bad adaptation, from my memory of the book, but director/co-screenwriter Pierre Granier-Deferre blew the ending. His ending is probably more audience-pleasing than Simenon's darker finish, though. The flick is definitely worth a watch.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 08:46 PM (q3u5l)
208but at the end the aliens just say “aw fukkit we’re outta here” and they smash everything to bits and go home.
Posted by: Tom Servo
They watched an episode about the Prime Directive and rearranged their whole society. Thermian out front shoulda toldja.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:46 PM (gKWVE)
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Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (e/Osv)
Damn you reminded me of my most wanted sequel.
Allita : Battle Angel
My favorite girl power movie .
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:46 PM (KDPiq)
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Sort of movie-adjacent. NPR is butthurt because 1) there were fewer abortions on TV this year and 2) it was sometimes portrayed as a shameful thing.
Because of course they're butthurt. Fucking ghouls.
https://tinyurl.com/ft4jvzpj
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:47 PM (IG3/x)
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The sequel we really need is "Sharknado 7", or whatever number they're up to. That's a story and set of characters that really have a lot of potential left.
Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 08:41 PM (X5Jzz)
TweakerShark. Because of all the fentanyl now in the Gulf of America waters. Have it blow into Venezuela and wreak havoc the the commies there.
Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 08:47 PM (WMHh6)
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Didn't Patrick Stewart play Lenin in "Fall of Eagles"? I could look it up, but I'm lazy.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes
He was also Karla in the Alec Guinness "Tinker, Taylor, Soldier, Spy"
Posted by: Tuna at December 13, 2025 08:47 PM (lJ0H4)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 08:48 PM (Kt19C)
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Yeah that one would probably beva good sequel naybe even prequel fighting on zalem
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:48 PM (bXbFr)
217True, I was waiting for years for the sequel to Buckaroo Banzai.
I guess it was too far out there and didn't make enough money.
I read that the rights to Buckaroo Banzai and any sequels had been sold multiple times, and these were the full rights, not options. Drugs may have been involved - at least that was my understanding.
The rights to the IP are completely tangled, and may never be resolved.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 08:49 PM (rbvCR)
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Patrick Stewart was in Lynch's Dune too iirc. As Gurney Halleck, although I think that character was better in the miniseries.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:44 PM (gKWVE)
The part 2 of the new Dune made me revert back to liking Lynch's Dune better.
Dune part 1 was fantastic though.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:49 PM (KDPiq)
219 Didn't Patrick Stewart play Lenin in "Fall of Eagles"? I could look it up, but I'm lazy.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 08:45 PM (kpS4V)
Yes
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 08:50 PM (tgvbd)
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One of the few sequels I enjoyed was the Robert Downy Sherlock Holmes A Game of Shadows. If the third one is EVER made I would probably get the DVD. But it's been so long Holmes and Watson will need canes to get around. Maybe they would investigate a murder at their old age home.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 08:50 PM (yTvNw)
Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 08:50 PM (K1PX7)
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Book to movie? The Quran, done as a dark comedy.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 08:51 PM (Kt19C)
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The series holds up quite well, by the way. Just don't expect a lot of fancy special effects, just some first-rate acting and storytelling.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:37 PM (IG3/x)
I think it still rates as best TV miniseries ever made. The cast was incredible, a list all the way through.
The character that stands out the most to me - and I think to everyone who watches it - is John Hurt’s Caligula. This is when I first realized that Hurt was a truly great actor; several versions of Caligula have appeared over the years, but Hurt’s portrayal is do skilled, and so compelling that you can never think of that character any other way. He made it his own.
In a similar way, I think the same about Peter Ustinov’s Nero.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 08:51 PM (k5cxK)
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220 One of the few sequels I enjoyed was the Robert Downy Sherlock Holmes A Game of Shadows. If the third one is EVER made I would probably get the DVD. But it's been so long Holmes and Watson will need canes to get around. Maybe they would investigate a murder at their old age home.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 08:50 PM (yTvNw)
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I suspect all hope has been given up for a third one.
A prequel series for Prime was announced in the last couple of weeks.
Downey Jr. Is just too expensive.
Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:51 PM (GBKbO)
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I actively hated the trailers for that King Arthur movie, because it seemed the epitome of the 'wear a franchise name as a skin-suit' trope. It didn't look remotely Arthurian, it didn't look remotely Brittish... It looked like it was cut from the same cloth that D+ Willow, Netflix Witcher, or Amazon Wheel of Time, and Amazon Rings of Power would later be cut from.
You want to make a fantasy movie/tv show like that, fine. I've watched a few of them. (The Outpost was from that cloth, the Mythica movies were actually better than that cloth, and Curse of the Dragonslayer was better than anything else in the past decade) But for that, you have to sell your work on its own merits. Not by hijacking some other franchise that I already like.
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 13, 2025 08:51 PM (Lhaco)
227223 Book to movie? The Quran, done as a dark comedy.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats
Careful. Might put an eye out.
Posted by: Salman at December 13, 2025 08:52 PM (gKWVE)
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I just recently binged watched all 10 episodes of Shogun . I commented that it just confirmed my dislike of the Bushido code and a number of other Japanese cultural traditions that still exist.
On that note I also just watched Mr Baseball again with Tom Selleck. Held up great.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:55 PM (KDPiq)
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Yeah i dont think it can work without downey though
And cumberbatchs sherlock is just a sociopath
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:55 PM (bXbFr)
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I'm back home and the FYE at the mall is being liquidated. I picked up some movies for super fucking cheap.
A Star Is Born (Gaga/Cooper)
Apollo 13 (steelbook)
Bad Boys
Elizabeth/Elizabeth:The Golden Age
Exodus: Gods and Kings
Moana
Saving Mr. Banks
Thor: The Dark World
Rush Hour 2 (DVD)
The Hound Of The Baskervilles/Pursuit To Algiers (DVD)
Mind you, except for Apollo 13 and Bad Boys they're all used. $32 bucks for everything,
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 08:55 PM (1Yy3c)
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World of Warcraft. The ending sets up the sequel's whole story arc.
Why has no one tried Mary Stewart's approach to the Arthurian legend? The Crystal Cave and The Hollow Hills are solid stories.
Posted by: Galt at December 13, 2025 08:55 PM (9UnaD)
Posted by: Lex at December 13, 2025 08:36 PM (y4H1r)
I don't know...Rebecca De Mornay 42 years later, might not look quite as hot now....
Posted by: zigggggy at December 13, 2025 08:56 PM (/Pwrg)
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Watching Crown of Shadows on prime
So bad
AI slop
But there are dragons
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 13, 2025 08:56 PM (dE3DB)
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I don't think it is too early to talk about the body of work that Taylor Sheridan is producing.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 08:56 PM (sDNVV)
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I didn't realize how many Guy Ritchie movies I really liked.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:57 PM (KDPiq)
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I just recently binged watched all 10 episodes of Shogun . I commented that it just confirmed my dislike of the Bushido code and a number of other Japanese cultural traditions that still exist.
On that note I also just watched Mr Baseball again with Tom Selleck. Held up great.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:55 PM (KDPiq)
If you liked the remake you should watch the original. It's even better. The remake focuses more on the Japanese stuff but the original focuses mostly on the white guy. You won't feel like it's repetitious.
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 08:57 PM (1Yy3c)
237What's that watermelon doing there?
Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (Mk6+b)
In the book it was noted to be part of a project to make watermelons unbreakable. It was never discussed why.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 08:57 PM (rbvCR)
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Stewarts really chewing the scenery in lifeforce
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:57 PM (bXbFr)
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Always wanted a sequel to the 1999 film "Office Space."
[Never watched either the British or US TV series of the same name.]
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 13, 2025 08:58 PM (YmZuj)
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Wondered when TJM will get to Kurosawa movies, should dress up as a Samurai
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 08:59 PM (Ia/+0)
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The character that stands out the most to me - and I think to everyone who watches it - is John Hurt’s Caligula.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 08:51 PM (k5cxK)
Oh, yeah. Definitely. To shine that brightly among THAT cast is a formidable challenge, and yet he pulled it off.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 09:00 PM (IG3/x)
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240 Wondered when TJM will get to Kurosawa movies, should dress up as a Samurai
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 08:59 PM (Ia/+0)
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Gohan kudesai.
Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 09:00 PM (GBKbO)
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Oh, TJM, I was mentions to the Horde the other day you need a sign off on your videos. Ex. Jerome Weiselberry, who is female, waves and says a high pitched squeaky "Bye!" You need something like that, but manlier. Maybe like "DYNOMIIIIIIIIITE!"
Also I loved your Christmas suit.
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 09:00 PM (1Yy3c)
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Haven't seen much of Taylor Sheridan's stuff except for Hell or High Water, which was way nifty; that closing scene between Jeff Bridges and Chris Pine alone is worth five times the price of admission.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 09:00 PM (q3u5l)
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John Carter pissed me off. first, it should have been called John Carter of Mars. I understand that Princess of Mars may have implied a girly-movie to certain audiences, but you needed to at least highlight the sci-fi factor. Just calling it John Carter is...bland.
Second, this movie miss a golden opportunity for some truly subversive messaging! The Green Martians have a messed up society that produces a lot of evil people. But there was one Martain who was genuinely good hearted; Sola. And what made her good? She had parents. Not even overly sentimental parents, just parents that acknowledged her and cared for her. And that was all it took to create empathy in a society of psychopaths. That....would have been a truly inspiring message...
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 13, 2025 09:00 PM (Lhaco)
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243 Oh, TJM, I was mentions to the Horde the other day you need a sign off on your videos. Ex. Jerome Weiselberry, who is female, waves and says a high pitched squeaky "Bye!" You need something like that, but manlier. Maybe like "DYNOMIIIIIIIIITE!"
Also I loved your Christmas suit.
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 09:00 PMdudes ain't.
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I definitely need something. They just stop now.
I like the suit, too!
Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 09:01 PM (GBKbO)
247223 Book to movie? The Quran, done as a dark comedy.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 08:51 PM (Kt19C)
Coming to a theater near you : Monty Python's "Life of Achmed".
Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 09:01 PM (X5Jzz)
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232...true, but I like that all the principal actors are still alive and you could do something interesting. Lana probably became successful at something. Guido is still slumming it. All of Joel's friends could reappear. I like to think Joel became exactly what his parents were and never did say f it and make his move.
Didn't Stewart have a minor part in Excalibur too?
Posted by: Lex at December 13, 2025 09:01 PM (y4H1r)
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Oh, before I forget to mention, I was at Walmart and saw...
You know what I saw?
Tom Hanks coffee.
Let that sink in.
Tom Hanks coffee.
Start off your day with a strong cup of Tom Hanks in your mouth.
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 09:02 PM (1Yy3c)
250239 Always wanted a sequel to the 1999 film "Office Space."
[Never watched either the British or US TV series of the same name.]
Posted by: ShainS
'The Office' and 'Office Space' were two different things. I'm not aware of a British version of the movie 'Office Space', which was a Mike Judge flick (and one of my favorites).
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 09:02 PM (rii+a)
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In the future, Sheridan will be remembered as one of the greats of our time.
Plus he's strong-willed enough that he regularly manages to get non-woke material past the Hollywood screechbots.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 09:03 PM (IG3/x)
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John Carter pissed me off. first, it should have been called John Carter of Mars. I understand that Princess of Mars may have implied a girly-movie to certain audiences, but you needed to at least highlight the sci-fi factor. Just calling it John Carter is...bland.
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 13, 2025 09:00 PM (Lhaco)
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Yeah, I thought the same thing. Just adding "of Mars" would have added some important context to the title.
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Office Space', which was a Mike Judge flick (and one of my favorites).
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 09:02 PM (rii+a)
The new King of the Hill season was really good. Made me want a lot more. The story line is just how I imagined it .
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 09:04 PM (KDPiq)
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Two best book to movies IMO are The Great Santini and Captains Courageous ( even though they changed the ending)
Posted by: the way I see it
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Interesting choices. For personal reasons, I'm not a fan of Conroy, but still a good choice.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2025 09:04 PM (XeU6L)
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Yeah, I thought the same thing. Just adding "of Mars" would have added some important context to the title.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 09:04 PM (ESVrU
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Mars Needs Moms bombed, so Disney got scared of the Mars in the title, removing it, though the art is all JCM anyway, and it says John Carter of Mars at the end.
And adding the Mars would have done nothing for its box office.
Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 09:05 PM (GBKbO)
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Probably some people thought the movie was about the Noah Wyle character from ER.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 09:05 PM (IG3/x)
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Taylor Sheridan: I just couldn't get into 'Yellowstone'. I couldn't overcome my general loathing of Beth Dutton. Horrible character. On the other hand, I think Sheridan was behind 'Longmire' which was very good. Enjoyed that one a lot.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 09:06 PM (rii+a)
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Interesting choices. For personal reasons, I'm not a fan of Conroy, but still a good choice.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2025 09:04 PM (XeU6L)
I chose those two because I read the books of course and the movies didn't piss me off with how they told the story and the casting.was great.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 09:07 PM (KDPiq)
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Office Space is a delight if only for the printer scene (and who hasn't wanted to do that to a printer?). It's a movie that you should probably definitely watch if you work in IT; of course, it's also a movie that maybe you probably shouldn't watch if you work in IT.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 09:07 PM (q3u5l)
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239 Always wanted a sequel to the 1999 film "Office Space."
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The IT Crowd Brit Com is quite funny
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 13, 2025 09:07 PM (dE3DB)
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243 Oh, TJM, I was mentions to the Horde the other day you need a sign off on your videos. Ex. Jerome Weiselberry, who is female, waves and says a high pitched squeaky "Bye!" You need something like that, but manlier. Maybe like "DYNOMIIIIIIIIITE!"
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 09:00 PM (1Yy3c)
wow, somebody knows of her!!!! I feel shame for finding her kinda cute...cannot figure out her age...been doing videos for a decade or so....and her camera is like 20 years old...
Posted by: zigggggy at December 13, 2025 09:07 PM (/Pwrg)
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> I couldn't overcome my general loathing of Beth Dutton. Horrible character.
Sheridan's one weakness (and it is a SERIOUS weakness) is that he just HAS to have an obnoxious blonde woman in every show. Sometimes more than one (e.g., Landman, an otherwise outstanding show).
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 09:09 PM (IG3/x)
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'Wind River' was also a Taylor Sheridan flick (I think) and I really enjoyed that movie.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 09:09 PM (rii+a)
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While not actual sequels, films that follow because of the original's success are usually terrible. Like the first three Star Wars movies, the three LOTR film are basically one movie. Everything that followed has been mostly disappointing. The Hobbit trilogy has some of the elements the worked for LOTR but the writers got too cute with the script and stretched it out way too long. That Helm Hammerhead animation just became another girl power thing. The Amazon Rings of Power fiasco should have been buried along with the careers of the entire production staff before a frame was filmed.
I can only hope these follow-ons led folks to read the books.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 09:10 PM (yTvNw)
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Speaking of John Carter they have never made a good Tarzan movie imo. My second favorite book as a kid.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 09:11 PM (KDPiq)
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Hell or High Water was a hidden gem that I found in the Walmart DVD bin for 5 bucks.
I got it because I like jeff Bridges and Chris Pine, and I really like Ben Foster.
Great fucking movie.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 13, 2025 09:16 PM (0aYVJ)
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wow, somebody knows of her!!!! I feel shame for finding her kinda cute...cannot figure out her age...been doing videos for a decade or so....and her camera is like 20 years old...
Posted by: zigggggy at December 13, 2025 09:07 PM (/Pwrg)
You should feel deeply ashamed for finding her kinda cute. For starters, she's SUPER cute. Also..*doing his best seagull impression*...MINE!
Anywho, my guess is she's mid to late 30s. That gray streak in her hair makes her look...mmmmmmmmm...
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 09:18 PM (1Yy3c)
It was sooooooo bad, purely unnecessary, in the incorrect format, and did nothing to enhance the first film. It was sooooooo bad that there was talk that the Director and primary actor did it as a F*ck You to people who enjoyed the first one.
Posted by: Orson at December 13, 2025 09:18 PM (dIske)
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I can only hope these follow-ons led folks to read the books.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 09:10 PM (yTvNw)
Long time Tolkien fan here, and I completely agree with you as to the quality of the various things that have been tried.
What killed “the Hobbit” for me was that idiotic elf dwarf romance. Gag.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 09:19 PM (k5cxK)
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You know what, there was a remastered Blu-ray edition of the theatrical version of theLOTR trilogy. I didn't get it and I'm wondering if I should go back tomorrow and grab it. I don't have the theatrical versions.
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 09:20 PM (1Yy3c)
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TJM convinced me to rent the Guy Ritchie movie, about King Arthur.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 13, 2025 09:20 PM (ytIvj)
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I quit watching the Hobbit movies the moment I saw Doctor Who as Radagast, riding a sleigh drawn by giant bunnies. Nope nope noppeity nope.
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This is the kind of thing one ought to see while tripping on pure Sandoz, not in a big-budget movie based on Tolkien.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 09:20 PM (kpS4V)
Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 09:22 PM (XuXeR)
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Oh boy! Just saw in the NY Post that Amy Schumer is splitting from her husband. She's available and skinny.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 09:25 PM (D+mpw)
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Love everything about Excalibur. Love the actors/actresses (though the dude playing Arthur was a bit of a plank), love the music (whoever thought of using Wagner was a genius), love the sets (that final battle between Arthur and Mordred, with the blood-red sun setting in the sea, was incredible). Boorman's direction was decent.
I didn't know about the new(er) movie. Will be watching.
Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at December 13, 2025 09:26 PM (E66lT)
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Someone up thread mentioned Captains Courageous. The 1937 version is the only film where I actually like Spencer Tracy.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 09:26 PM (k5cxK)
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I always wanted a sequel to "The Once And Future King".
"Now, the problem is, how to divide five Afghans from three mules and have two Englishmen left over."
Posted by: Peachy Carnehan at December 13, 2025 09:31 PM (R/m4+)
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I just want a big budget story accurate Gor film. Rated R with the T&A intact.
I would have really liked a Speed Racer sequel too.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 13, 2025 09:32 PM (Vh9CX)
287282 Oh boy! Just saw in the NY Post that Amy Schumer is splitting from her husband. She's available and skinny.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 09:25 PM (D+mpw)
. . . and still bugshit crazy. Remember Rule #1.
Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 09:33 PM (X5Jzz)
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I'm watching Along Came Polly right now. In my top five RomCom movies.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 09:33 PM (KDPiq)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 09:34 PM (kpS4V)
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Yeah, I thought the same thing. Just adding "of Mars" would have added some important context to the title.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 09:04 PM (ESVrU)
Even though they removed 'of Mars' from the title, the movie's logo was still a (very stylized) JCM. Not only was it pig-headed executive interference, it was lazy and incomplete executive interference...
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 13, 2025 09:34 PM (Lhaco)
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***But mass audiences don't seem all that keen on it.
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One Million Years B.C. had a budget of approximately $1.2 million and grossed around $8 million at the box office. This significant return marked it as a financial success, yielding a profit that far exceeded its production costs.
Deathstalker (1983) made on a budget of $457,000, $11.9 million worldwide at the box offic
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Although, pre medeval the solution is obvious.
The problem with medieval fantasy films is too much development and not enough nekked.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 09:37 PM (ONKca)
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Benedetta, thought you said Beretta. I was looking for the parrot.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 09:40 PM (ONKca)
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233 ‘Book to movie? The Quran, done as a dark comedy.’
Which would be funnier? The movie or the unending string of terrorist attacks which would follow it?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 09:42 PM (fd80v)
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This is the kind of thing one ought to see while tripping on pure Sandoz, not in a big-budget movie based on Tolkien.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 09:20 PM (kpS4V)
LOL! Exactly right!!
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 09:43 PM (k5cxK)
Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 09:46 PM (q3u5l)
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I like John Carter of Mars and the Barsoom novels (I've read the first six so far). But my understanding is that most fans of the novels hate the movie.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 13, 2025 09:47 PM (mFz+I)
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‘ What killed “the Hobbit” for me was that idiotic elf dwarf romance. Gag.’
How did Tolkien ever write something like that?
I’m surprised he didn’t go to jail.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 09:48 PM (fd80v)
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I recorded the Army-Navy Game and just finished it. Close game!
And so...SUCK IT BIG GREEN! Ha!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 09:49 PM (kpS4V)
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296 233 ‘Book to movie? The Quran, done as a dark comedy.’
Which would be funnier? The movie or the unending string of terrorist attacks which would follow it?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 09:42 PM (fd80v)
Spoiler: The unending string of terrorist attacks happen regardless.
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 09:50 PM (1Yy3c)
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Dude...Beth Dutton has a stupendous rack. Why are you paying attention to her character?
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> I have heard that it’s difficult indeed to divide Afghans from mules.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 09:50 PM (fd80v)
Usually it's goats. I think mules qualify you as transgender under Afghan law.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 09:55 PM (IG3/x)
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‘ What killed “the Hobbit” for me was that idiotic elf dwarf romance. Gag.’
How did Tolkien ever write something like that?
I’m surprised he didn’t go to jail.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 09:48 PM (fd80v)
He didn't write that.
You can read the Hobbit in less time than it takes to watch the movie.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo
Yea, the book doesn't take long to read. Jackson could have just followed the book, for the most part, made one movie, and it would have worked fine, but nah.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 09:56 PM (rii+a)
‘You can read the Hobbit in less time than it takes to watch the movie.’
I burnt up the better part of a flight back from Europe watching it.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 09:56 PM (fd80v)
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How did Tolkien ever write something like that?
I’m surprised he didn’t go to jail.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 09:48 PM (fd80v)
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He. Did. NOT!!!
basically the story was bent over a pinball machine and sodomized by shit stains hellbent on wrecking all the things.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 13, 2025 09:58 PM (0aYVJ)
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I got to see a Q&A about storytelling back in my Sundance Film Fest era, and Stanton was one of the panelists. He's clearly brilliant, and incredibly passionate about stories. Maybe he should have started with a smaller live action movie before taking on this project. The sequels sound like they would have had cool plots!
I still don't get why films like this fail, and Avatar makes a billion with every movie. It boggles my understanding. The only thing I can think of is James Cameron understands showmanship, and how to sell a story in buzz and marketing before it hits theaters.
Maybe if it had been titled "Princess of Mars," it would have sold it better in the marketing?
Treasure Planet is another one that was so brilliant in what it did, for boy's adventure and making a pirate story sci-if, but then bombed so bad.
Boys need adventure films, and action, and princesses to save in another castle, and heroes to emulate. Hopefully that vacuum gets filled with positive stories at some point. A new Star Wars, a new indie jones. The directors Spielberg and Lucas mentored never really took up that baton.
Posted by: LizLem at December 13, 2025 10:00 PM (gWBY1)
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199 70 I liked John Carter as well , but yes it needed way more boobs.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (k5cxK)
Just to be clear, do you mean more women exposing their boobs, or hot Martian women with more than two boobs?
Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 08:44 PM (X5Jzz)
Armageddon is a good, enjoyable movie.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:43 PM (zZu0s)
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He should've gotten an Oscar for direction for the first Transformers movie. That movie is extremely well paced and expertly handles multiple story threads, better than Peter Jackson did in LOTR. I'm not even a big Bay fanboy buy I'll give credit to where credit is due.
Both Bay produced TMNT movies are great too. The first better than the second, but the opening of the second is absolutely epic.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 13, 2025 10:04 PM (Vh9CX)
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Yea, the book doesn't take long to read. Jackson could have just followed the book, for the most part, made one movie, and it would have worked fine, but nah.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 09:56 PM (rii+a)
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It was a studio greed thing, they first required a two parter then doubled down on their greed and demanded a trilogy. Del Toro then quit and Jackson had to go back into the director's chair.
That is what I recall.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 13, 2025 10:07 PM (Vh9CX)
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My hot take on the Hobbit movies: Everything about Tauriel is fanfiction. However, it is very well-written fanfiction! The self-insert character is super-competent, but still has a valid reason for feeling oppressed; she has reached the limit of her career advancement. Her king is not unkind, but still dismissive of her. The chemistry between her and Kili is natural; he's a landless and poor (despite being a prince) and he's starstruck by her beauty and her homeland. She yearns to see the world beyond her forest, and he's a charming guy who' seen all the things she dreams about...It's got everything you could ask for in a fanfic!
Unfortunately, THIS ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE FANFICTION! This is supposed to be an adaptation of The Hobbit! We only get these movies once in a generation, and you just ruined our generation's chance!
Yet another movie ruined by studio demands. If they had just waited a few years, and let Peter Jackson finish a script before filming, and not force the project into an unnecessary trilogy... There were good moments in those movies, but a lot of unnecessary nonsense, as well.
Posted by: Castle Guy at December 13, 2025 10:15 PM (Lhaco)
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Count me as a fan of "John Carter". Good script, good acting, excellent special effects. Its failure, though, came in part from having a lead who was handsome and athletic, but lacking leading-man charisma; and in part due to dreadful marketing. (It amazes me that the word "Mars" appeared nowhere.) It was fun, though, to see Ciaran Hinds and James Purefoy from "Rome" wearing kilts and swords again. Also, pulling ERB himself into the story at the end was a nice touch.
Posted by: Nemo at December 13, 2025 10:19 PM (4RPgu)
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>>> 233 ‘Book to movie? The Quran, done as a dark comedy.’
You know, that's an intriguing point. Stories from the Bible have been made and remade. Shakespeare and Austen have been redone so many ways; some of my faves where the teen romcoms I grew up on in the 90s.
Are there any beloved stories from the Quran that have blended into the fabric of literature? Been made into actual good films? Remade into a modern story? Or is the cult of Islam so strong that those stories can't be shared to the larger culture?
Posted by: LizLem at December 14, 2025 01:43 AM (gWBY1)
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>>> It's got everything you could ask for in a fanfic!
Unfortunately, THIS ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE FANFICTION!
Most of these fantasy shows and movies are fanfic of beloved properties. Had they simply made them brand new worlds, no one would care! It's that they bastardized beloved franchises instead of making their own new fantasy worlds and doing whatever they want there.
I like Tauriel. I'd adore this storyline with her and the dwarf if it was in a D&D style movie. But they put it in the hobbit.
Posted by: LizLem at December 14, 2025 02:51 AM (gWBY1)
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Soloman Kane is not medieval fantasy (he's a Puritan) and both the movies you discuss were awful.
Posted by: Rob at December 14, 2025 11:51 AM (CWXLC)
Hobby Thread - December 13, 2025 [Tannenbaum Rex]
Welcome hobbyists! Pull up a chair and sit a spell with the Horde in this little corner of the interweb. This is the mighty, mighty officially sanctioned Ace of Spades Hobby Thread. As previewed, the Ace of Spades Wheel of Hobbies (TM) landed on Christmas Ornaments.
Last week, the call went out for Horde Christmas ornament submissions. Are you thinking "I'm a grinch that did not submit an ornament, but I am eager to see what others submitted. I can't wait to get into the content!" I knew it. Enjoy.
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What are you hobbying?
As per usual Hobby Thread etiquette, keep this thread limited to hobbying. All (legal) hobbying is welcome. However, politics, current events and religious debates can live in threads elsewhere. Pants are optional. Puns are welcome and encouraged.
Play nice. Don't be a troll and do not feed the trolls.
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Christmas ornaments are more than plastic, wood, metal or glass. They may have aesthetic value but usually they are important and valued because of their origin story. Could be a special person or relative that gifted it. Could be someone that made it. Could be a treasure from travels or a family tradition. Could be the age and previous owners. Ornaments often have value because of their meaning.
Thanks much to the Horde who submitted treasures of their own. Enjoy their stories and share some of your own.
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From "Perfessor" Squirrel:
When I lived in Germany as a teenager, my parents would take us kids to the Christkindlmarkt in Bayreuth. They'd buy us each a Christmas ornament for the tree. I always wanted a giant nutcracker, but I had to make do with this little guy. He's standing on the box of the rest of my ornaments.
Unfortunate feline follow-up:
I foolishly forgot to put the Christmas ornament back in the box after I snapped a picture of it.
This morning, I discovered that the ornament had been knocked off the box onto the floor of my dining area and had broken in two. Unfortunately, I can only find the top half. If I can ever find the bottom half, there's a good chance I can glue it back together. I'm afraid the bottom half has been batted around so much it's disappeared into the void (like the countless ping pong balls I have scattered in my house).
This right here is why I don't ever have a Christmas tree.
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From JQ:
Our neighbor has a laser-cutting device and made these 3 snowflake ornaments for us last year. Pretty cool! Just slide the pieces together for 3-D effect.
The wooden ones were a farm-store find. They looked handmade at first glance, but alas, I fear they were merely assembled by hand after mass-production of the parts. Probably printed on the thin wood and die-cut, then glued together. Still, they are so cute that I bought 2 of each plus extra cows and sheep.
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From ARiK:
The folded stars in the box were made by me in Cub Scouts around 1968. The Snoopy was re-purposed from a model kit about the same time and the glass clam shells and house are survivors from my parents collection and were old in 1968.
The two Hallmark "Beagle Scout" ornaments are near and dear to my heart as an Eagle Scout and Eagle Scout dad and former adult leader.
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From Diogenes:
Mrs D purchased this when we were stationed in Germany (long ago) in Rothenburg au der Tauber. The store is called Katie Wolfharts. Known for their Christmas stuff. We have a bunch of their ornaments but this silly little thing just appeals to me.
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From Victor Tango Kilo:
We buy an ornament to commemorate every year. 2021 was the year Bravo and Charlie were born.
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From wcgreen:
My grandmother, crocheted this tree skirt when I married in 1978. We’ve placed it under our tree every year since then. The wooden tree was made by a local woodworker; it's the newest addition to my Christmas tree forest and it's keeping the skirt on the table for its photo.
I made the ornaments from a pattern in McCall's Needlework magazine in the mid-1980s. They are the first ornaments hung on our tree each year.
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From scampydog:
The cat is is scampywife's ornament from 1975, from Santa. She has one from 1978 and 1981 also. Kind of fun.
Collage: Our tradition... kids/parents each get a new ornament every year. Often tied to what is going on in life. Kids events, sports, hobbies, new job, etc., will be the ornament theme. Ma and Pa, we get things that fit our personality quirks.
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From Doof:
One of my favorite ornaments. Flintstones set from the 70s. We had a set of four. I have two and my sister has two.
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From Gratetful:
The best Hallmark ornaments were from the 1980s. This is one of them (with two sides). They were simple, heartfelt and cherished every year I put them on the tree.
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From Teresa in Fort Worth:
I made these to give as gifts to friends and family in 1996 - a "bell" made from a tiny terra cotta pot that I decorated. Got the idea from something I saw in a magazine that year.
This is a drum ornament that I made in second grade. It was a class project - each of us made one (using an empty wooden spool, some batting, a piece of fabric, and some glitter) to give to our parents to put on the tree that Christmas. My Mom put that on the tree every year, and when I set up my own house, she gave it to me to put on my Christmas tree. Our poor kids have had to hear that silly story every year when the tree gets put up.
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From Stephen Price Blair:
I'm all-in on celebrating the semiquincentennial, having started in 2023 with a series of posts on bicentennial cookbooks, then centennial cookbooks in 2024, and, this year, starting the 250th early with Samuel Young's speech on the 42nd anniversary (the meaning of life!) of the Battle of Bennington.
"All nations, from time immemorial, have had their days of commemoration. These days have marked the character of the nation itself. Among the Pagan nations they commemorate the birth day of some supposed God or Goddess. In Monarchies they commemorate the birthday of some favorite Prince or Princess. In Aristocracies they commemorate the birth day of some splendid Nobleman. But in the United States of America we commemorate the birth day of our Liberties."
So when I saw the Melania Trump 250th collection, I decided to take a chance on the star, which looked very elegant in the site's photos. It just arrived a few weeks ago, and I'm very happy with it. But I was even more pleasantly surprised - though I probably shouldn't have been surprised - to see "Made in the USA" on the side.
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From tcn in AK:
My fav is the photo ornament with a picture of my son age 2-1/2 years in his Halloween costume as a tiger.
The other one is a gorgeous Alaska ornament from The Kobuk Shop which is a historical little treasure located in the oldest building in Anchorage, also known by its original name "Kimball's Dry Goods." Every ornament on my tree is distinct. Some would say it's chaotic.
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From tRustyHudson:
The sound of Christmas in our house, a "Light and Magic" Hallmark ornament from 1989. Kringles Workshop. Plugs into your string of lights and the little elves saw and hammer, and the little gears whir and clack. We had that on our tree since I was 8. The original finally stopped working shortly before I married my wife, and damned if I didn't find another one for our first tree. And when that one gave up the ghost my wife bought another for me. I'm sure when this one goes we'll find another. Wouldn't be Christmas without this clacking in the background.
The following are the nice brass carburetor floats that I hang on our tree : 2 Carter (a WDG and WD-O) floats from Hudsons and a Rochester Q-Jet float from a old GM I can't recall. They're shiny brass.
Editor note: space constraints allowed only one of the carburetor float ornaments, but I don't know which one is pictured.
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From JuJuBee:
I bought this Hallmark ornament two months ago but it's already my all-time favorite. I didn't even put it on the tree. It's on my nightstand so I can see it frequently, and it's staying there all year.
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From Shelf of Monkeys:
Coming straight out of the early 70s and my childhood is my treasured paper mache blue cow that was given to me by my mother. The "flower power" decoration provides the finishing touch. She always is prominently displayed at eye level.
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From Tankascribe:
The first year we were married my husband and I invited our parents over to our place for Thanksgiving. I made my first turkey; my MIL asked for the turkey carcass to take home, from which she made luscious turkey noodle soup. Come Christmas, she presented me with the intact wishbone from my first turkey, spray-painted gold, covered with green fuzz and tied up with red yarn to be used as a Christmas tree ornament. That was 45 years ago and one leg of the wishbone has broken off, but it's still my favorite!
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From Margsnow:
These are two ornaments I made. They were inspired by ornaments I saw on Pinterest.
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From Lirio100:
This fish is a very sentimental favorite, the poor thing is pretty time worn. It was on my grandmother's tree when she was a child, in the early 1900's. I suspect it's even older since her family was originally from Germany and might have either brought it or have it sent. It's about five inches from mouth to tail tip, made of blown glass. The original red coloring can just be seen, while the silver mesh over the body is barely there now. I still treasure it!
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Bonus hobbying content - check out the tree skirt that Grateful made for our tree! Applique and embroidery done by hand.
This is also your reminder to stop by Club ONT later for the Christmas party!
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Did you miss the Hobby Thread last week? We did an scrounging and scavenging theme. The comments may be closed, but you can re-live the content.
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Notable comments from last week:
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Words of wisdom:
"Because despite all our troubles, when things are grim out in that wide round world of ours, that's when it's really important to have a good hobby." Posted by: tankascribe at June 22, 2024 07:41 PM (HWxAD).
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If you have trouble finding something in the content or comments that resonates with you, contribute something from your personal hobbying. We will feature a different theme next time. What are you hobbying? We love showing off Horde hobbying. Send thoughts, suggestions and photos of your hobbying to moronhobbies at protonmail dot com. Do mighty things.
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 05:31 PM (Ia/+0)
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OrangeEnt 👍
My grandmother ( dad's mother) made probably thousands in her life with a hard foam base then completely covered with sequins and things
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 05:34 PM (Ia/+0)
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Sorry for you loss, Perfessor. It's got to be hard to replace cats.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 05:34 PM (uQesX)
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Those reindeer are awfully close together. That better not be AI.
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 05:36 PM (vFG9F)
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Was this morning doing last weeks thread, processing lead scraps. Made 50 bullets and another ingot more than 10 pounds.
Should somehow weigh them.
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 05:38 PM (Ia/+0)
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OrangeEnt 👍
My grandmother ( dad's mother) made probably thousands in her life with a hard foam base then completely covered with sequins and things
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 05:34 PM (Ia/+0)
Somewhere deep in the boxes are a few handmades from school days of me and one of my bros. Wife likes new stuff, so all those and my grandparents 40s and 50s Shiny Brite ornaments are dust gathering in the garage.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 05:43 PM (uQesX)
Posted by: tRusty Hudson at December 13, 2025 05:45 PM (ZfTMG)
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Afternoon, Hobby Horde, and TRex! After freezing my azz off running the snowblower, I am seated at the desk putting coins in rolls. I found a 1944 Wheat penny!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 05:46 PM (npFr7)
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Sprue Brothers is having a 20% off sale on Dragon and Hong Kong Models.
So far resisting.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 13, 2025 05:47 PM (RQW+z)
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Props to anyone who can 'Name That Float'!
Posted by: tRusty Hudson at December 13, 2025 05:45 PM (ZfTMG)
The only one I know is "Root Beer."
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 05:47 PM (uQesX)
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Ages ago, our Christmas tree had about a dozen ornaments with various themed dioramas inside. They were not large.. maybe 2 - 5 inches tall/round. Obviously plastic.
Haven't see such since.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 05:48 PM (NwnyJ)
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Navy about to tie Army, x-tra point will put them ahead if they score
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 05:50 PM (Ia/+0)
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7 so all those and my grandparents 40s and 50s Shiny Brite ornaments are dust gathering in the garage.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 05:43 PM
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Sad trombone...
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Those reindeer are awfully close together. That better not be AI.
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Another fun Hallmark ornament from the '80s. Definitely not AI.
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Very Hispanic/Filipino area. Lots of yard decorations. Yeah, nothing says the birth of Christ like a deflated inflatable barny the dinosaur or a green grinch demon. What happened to creches and nativity scenes?
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 05:54 PM (Kt19C)
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If we could find a tree large enough for ALL of the Moron Horde Christmas ornaments, it would be the bestest Christmas tree ever!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 05:56 PM (Kt19C)
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VTK, that's a great idea, to commemorate the birth of your cats. Both of mine were born in '22, so they could share an ornament.
We had the standard ornaments when I was a kid at home. One thing we did have that was not a tree dangler was a Grumpy Santa -- a painted ceramic figure, about the size of a coin bank (and maybe he was one), that Mom had found in a downtown store like Woolworth's. She popped him atop the television -- or on a shelf after we had cats -- and she found him amusing.
I must have missed it among her things when I cleaned out her apartment after she passed. I have never seen another one, and a search for "grumpy Santa" on eBay produces zilch.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 05:56 PM (wzUl9)
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Sad trombone...
Posted by: TRex - dino is old too at December 13, 2025 05:51 PM (IQ6Gq)
A lot of them say West Germany.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 05:54 PM (uQesX)
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I have one that's a silhouette of a nativity scene carved out of olive wood. It says it was made in Bethlehem, which I thought was pretty neat.
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I have one that's a silhouette of a nativity scene carved out of olive wood. It says it was made in Bethlehem, which I thought was pretty neat.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 05:57 PM (ESVrU)
There used to be a group from Bethlehem who came around in the fall offering carved sets. Haven't seen or heard about them in years.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 05:59 PM (uQesX)
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I don't think I've ever seen car parts used as Christmas ornaments. It probably would not go over well here. Mrs fd would tell me to get my own tree.
My grandmother had some of those glass clamshell ornaments and others like them. She also had a color wheel, which makes any beautiful Christmas tree more beautifuler.
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 05:59 PM (vFG9F)
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I almost forgot, bought a lot of ceramic ornaments that were pure white then painted them, wife painted some as well. They were our first ornaments for a Christmas tree. Haven't seen light of day since 1st Christmas with kittens. Never put one up again.
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 06:00 PM (Ia/+0)
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Very Hispanic/Filipino area. Lots of yard decorations. Yeah, nothing says the birth of Christ like a deflated inflatable barny the dinosaur or a green grinch demon. What happened to creches and nativity scenes?
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 05:54 PM (Kt19C)
I don't care as much about Grinch decor, as it is a Christmas story, although subtle. Don't understand why this gnome stuff is coming out, plus dogs, cats, penguins - well, I know how that came about - or other animals that aren't associated with Christmas or winter. But, eh, what can you do?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 06:01 PM (uQesX)
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old brass carb floats for the win. love it.
and my spring boxes are "push" (compression) and "pull" (extension).
Posted by: cmeat at December 13, 2025 06:01 PM (R11M+)
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My maternal grandfather, being poor and on a small retirement income, used to make ornaments from seashells and sand dollars, spray painted and glittered. He’d drill a small hole and make a loop with fishing line to hang on the tree.
I wish some still existed. Perhaps I will make my
Own someday.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 13, 2025 06:02 PM (mT+6a)
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Back in the day, we had glass ornaments on our Christmas tree. But after they were getting lower in number by attrition, thanks to our two poodles (who would play with them, batting at those on the lower branches), we needed to change our approach.
So, way back in 1986, my parents got a set of wooden ornaments which have proven to be dog-proof (so long as they are kept out of the range of puppies).
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 06:02 PM (4786I)
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Most of the ornaments I made as a kid are on our tree. I took great care of those but blew up almost all of my GI Joe figures, trying to create authentic battles with Cobra.
Posted by: PA Dutchman at December 13, 2025 06:02 PM (31p00)
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22 I have one that's a silhouette of a nativity scene carved out of olive wood. It says it was made in Bethlehem, which I thought was pretty neat.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 05:57 PM
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Maybe sometime we'll do a nativity set theme. That could be quite interesting.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 06:06 PM (4786I)
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I have about 30 years of the Hallmark Star Trek ornaments going back to the first year they issued them. I haven't put them on a tree in years, mostly because I don't want to bother with all the work of unpacking, plugging in or replacing batteries, and repackaging at the end of the season.
Posted by: PabloD at December 13, 2025 06:08 PM (Epuwl)
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Tree lights certainly have changed often in my life time. Those big bulbs to led and many in-between
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 06:08 PM (Ia/+0)
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This would be a perfect post to like Dave in Tx and his ugly Christmas Tree essay.
It was hysterical.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 13, 2025 06:10 PM (mT+6a)
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17 If we could find a tree large enough for ALL of the Moron Horde Christmas ornaments, it would be the bestest Christmas tree ever!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 05:54 PM (ESVrU)
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That sounds very Mary Lou Who of you.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 13, 2025 06:11 PM (lCxV1)
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> This would be a perfect post to like Dave in Tx and his ugly Christmas Tree essay.
It was hysterical.
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"the crap tree"
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 06:12 PM (NwnyJ)
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 06:18 PM (LHPAg)
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old brass carb floats for the win. love it.
and my spring boxes are "push" (compression) and "pull" (extension).
Posted by: cmeat at December 13, 2025 06:01 PM (R11M+)
Heh. I have several bin boxes of both compression and tension springs. Need another for torsion and leaf springs.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 06:18 PM (npFr7)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 13, 2025 06:20 PM (9iRTe)
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number 8
You don't know a Rochester when you see one?
Posted by: MkY at December 13, 2025 06:23 PM (q6tQZ)
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I can't find my glue gun. My glue gun is missing.
I've looked everywhere but it's not there. I found the Oatmeal carton in which I stored it but only one one inch piece of glue was there.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 06:23 PM (ONKca)
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52 number 8
You don't know a Rochester when you see one?
Posted by: MkY at December 13, 2025 06:23 PM
Comin' Boss!
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 06:24 PM (LHPAg)
55Tree lights certainly have changed often in my life time. Those big bulbs to led and many in-between
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025
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I remember those big hot bulbs. They are the kind of thing that would be outdoor lights now, if those aren't LEDs too. We had a real tree every year when I lived at home, and so we never left the lights on at night or when there was not at least one person awake to watch. Never had a fire, thankfully.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 06:24 PM (wzUl9)
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We're festooning the wee vessel with Christmas lights and ornaments to celebrate the annual Christmas Boat Parade about to start in 2.5 hours. The ornaments are of the Chinese use-once-and-toss variety but I'm sure they're all biodegradable and stuff.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 13, 2025 06:25 PM (lCxV1)
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The ornaments are of the Chinese use-once-and-toss variety but I'm sure they're all biodegradable and stuff.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)
(Won't mention forever plastics)
Posted by: MkY at December 13, 2025 06:26 PM (q6tQZ)
58You don't know a Rochester when you see one?
Posted by: MkY at December 13, 2025 06:23 PM
Comin' Boss!
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025
***
Armed robber: "Your money or your life!"
Jack Benny (after one of his classic pauses): "I'm thinking, I'm thinking!"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 06:27 PM (wzUl9)
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48 I wish I had found a few painted ornaments and sent them in. I knew the topic was requested
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 06:18 PM (Ia/+0)
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Further such oversights will require a personal meeting with the Dean of Commenters and the possible loss of your cardboard-level privileges.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 13, 2025 06:27 PM (lCxV1)
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Oh, you fancy spring sorters. I guess you need something to do when it's -5 degrees outside.
In addition to two boxes of springs I have another drawer with real little springs, and shelves of bigger springs. You'd be surprised how often I have to access my cache of springs, and how important springs really are to our modern way of life.
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 06:27 PM (vFG9F)
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56 We're festooning the wee vessel with Christmas lights and ornaments to celebrate the annual Christmas Boat Parade about to start in 2.5 hours. The ornaments are of the Chinese use-once-and-toss variety but I'm sure they're all biodegradable and stuff.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 13, 2025 06:25 PM (lCxV1)
Toss over the side?
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 06:27 PM (LHPAg)
62 I can't find my glue gun. My glue gun is missing.
I've looked everywhere but it's not there. I found the Oatmeal carton in which I stored it but only one one inch piece of glue was there.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 06:23 PM (ONKca)
Who else had access to to it?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 13, 2025 06:28 PM (Wj1DV)
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Last year a local suburb had its "Jeep" Christmas parade, with Jeep owners decorating their vehicles and rolling them along a route within the town. Shatteringly loud stereos, of course -- I can imagine the passengers were partly deaf afterward -- but it was a lot of fun to see how people dolled up their off-roaders.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 06:30 PM (wzUl9)
64I can't find my glue gun. My glue gun is missing.
I've looked everywhere but it's not there. I found the Oatmeal carton in which I stored it but only one one inch piece of glue was there.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025
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Who else had access to to it?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 13, 2025
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And who had motive?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 06:30 PM (wzUl9)
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I'm seriously considering a binocular 10x and 20x stereo microscope for my electronics bench. It should help placing micro-components (SMT) on circuit boards for a couple of kit builds that I plan to start constructing soon. Hoping Santa is gracious enough to have it under the tree in a couple of weeks. I've dropped more than enough hints to one of his helpers over the last few months.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 13, 2025 06:31 PM (abIsI)
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You don't know a Rochester when you see one?
Posted by: MkY at December 13, 2025 06:23 PM
Comin' Boss!
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025
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Armed robber: "Your money or your life!"
Jack Benny (after one of his classic pauses): "I'm thinking, I'm thinking!"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 06:27 PM (wzUl9)
Note for any young(er) person who might be on the page: Jack Benny was a famous comedian who died 51 years ago. He had a butler named Rodchester. Rochester was black and I am sure the whole thing would be racist now.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 06:33 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 06:34 PM (zZu0s)
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In addition to two boxes of springs I have another drawer with real little springs, and shelves of bigger springs. You'd be surprised how often I have to access my cache of springs, and how important springs really are to our modern way of life.
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 06:27 PM (vFG9F)
The Native Americans used every bit of the spring.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 06:34 PM (uQesX)
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 06:35 PM (vFG9F)
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Our 15 year old microwave went tango uniform, had to order a new one from Lowes. Merry Christmas, so instead of steaks tonight, we are eating boiled cabbage. Praise the Lord!
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 06:36 PM (LHPAg)
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Those ornaments are wonderful, especially with all the sentimental attachments. We don't have a tree up this year and the boxes with the ornaments are buried, so no photos. We have a few very old family ornaments. They weren't new when I was born so they have some serious age on them. (I'm amazed they have survived.) We have some hand crocheted snowflakes, heavily starched, from a dear friend, now gone. So simple and so special. We also have some handmade ones: clothes pins dressed up like characters from Charles Dickens. Mrs. JTB's friends, newly married and not much money,
(like most of us back then) used what they had and used wonderful imagination. They are wonderful for their own sake and for the memories.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 06:36 PM (yTvNw)
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54 52 number 8
You don't know a Rochester when you see one?
Posted by: MkY at December 13, 2025 06:23 PM
Comin' Boss!
Not a Q-Jet... 50-50 shot now
Posted by: tRusty Hudson at December 13, 2025 06:37 PM (pDcsL)
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Note: Jack Benny had better comedic timing than anyone alive today.
Honestly, thinking about it, I cannot think of a comedian today that uses the pause.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 06:37 PM (zZu0s)
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Honestly, thinking about it, I cannot think of a comedian today that uses the pause.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 06:37 PM (zZu0s)
And apparently a very nice man.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 06:38 PM (uQesX)
(this is a good sign,
Navy won in 2024, Trump won. 2026 is looking good. that's all.)
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2025 06:38 PM (g47mK)
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The Native Americans used every bit of the spring.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 06:34 PM
And the cabbage. The heart was reserved for Ten Bears and he gave me half it.
-Outlaw Josey Wales
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 06:39 PM (LHPAg)
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Awesome ornaments and backstories, Horde. Thanks for the fun topic, Dino.
Posted by: scampydog at December 13, 2025 06:39 PM (46ZIb)
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Honestly, thinking about it, I cannot think of a comedian today that uses the pause.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 06:37 PM (zZu0s)
I can’t think of any comedians today, except for those from the 90’s that have mostly retired.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 06:39 PM (k5cxK)
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I can’t think of any comedians today, except for those from the 90’s that have mostly retired.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 06:39 PM (k5cxK)
Hmmm. Good point.
I am vaguely aware of Bill Burr and that he is a retard who sells out to Qatar.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 06:42 PM (zZu0s)
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Those reindeer are awfully close together. That better not be AI.
Posted by: fd
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Another fun Hallmark ornament from the '80s. Definitely not AI.
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba
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Reminds me of inprocessing at basic training....
Everybody! Get on that bench, sit like on a bike.
Get closer! Closer!
Dick-n-ass !!
Dick-n-ass !!
Looks around... Benches had plenty of room to sit normal
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 13, 2025 06:43 PM (/lPRQ)
8169 Don't even get me started on torsion bars.
Posted by: fd
Our new Chevy 1 ton has torsion bars for the front end. They have to be 2-2.5 inches thick. Our RV trailer also has torsion axles. Smooth as butter going down the road. Much better than a leaf spring suspension.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 13, 2025 06:45 PM (abIsI)
(this is a good sign,
Navy won in 2024, Trump won. 2026 is looking good. that's all.)
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2025 06:38 PM (g47mK)
The VF-84 Hornet themed uniform was a great touch last year. Maybe a Seabee D-8 dozer theme would have been good this year?
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 06:45 PM (LHPAg)
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Amazing how objects can bring back such clear memories and Christmas ornaments have to be near the top of the list. When we bring them out I can recall the trees from my childhood and the excitement of decorating for Christmas. Or memories of the people who gifted them. Even the original boxes that hold the pieces, now over 70 years old, evoke the memories.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 06:47 PM (yTvNw)
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Having to pick just one ornament to feature was a challenge...we have ornaments from 3 of 4 sets of grandparents, both parents, tons of friends, ones we've collected domestically and internationally, as well as handmade ones over the years...each one has it's own story...adds to the magic of the season...and Nova Local - no way in the world does this tree get decorated in 45 minutes!
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 06:50 PM (uQesX)
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Army/Navy game was down to the wire. Fun to watch. Meanwhile, it looks like Brown U. caught a case of mass-shooter this afternoon.
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 13, 2025 06:50 PM (vV6n9)
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Anyone have an aluminum Christmas tree?
Posted by: OrangeEnt
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Pains me to admit it, but yes...my mother for some unknown reason thought this would be a good idea...even came with that color wheel...offended me every single season....
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You don't know a Rochester when you see one?
Posted by: MkY
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I have a Stromberg 97 ceramic mug.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2025 06:52 PM (XeU6L)
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Before I forget, there was a bagpiper in full kit playing carols in the Lowes parking lot today. When I dropped some cash in his bucket, I almost requested Scotland The Brave, but nah, this was his show and he was doing great.
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 06:52 PM (LHPAg)
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Anyone have an aluminum Christmas tree?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 06:50 PM (uQesX)
I saw one in a home movie at my grandparents (Dad side.) To a young kid, it looked cool as hell with the color wheel.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 06:55 PM (zZu0s)
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Ah yes, the old Noma™ series string lights.. One burns out, they ALL go out.
Parents had those, when I was little. There were fancy replacement/upgrade bulbs too: snowmen, churches, trees. Mom kept the burned-out shaped ones, just 'cause they were pretty ornaments even without light.
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 06:55 PM (rdVOm)
Thank you morons for sharing all those Christmas mementos
tcn's little boy is adorable.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 06:56 PM (A0sqA)
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Thanks, TRex for the Hobby Thread, and this one was a lot of fun. Got here to late to really join in, and we got the ornaments out too late to get a photo to send. But I still enjoyed this very much.
Posted by: TecumsehTea at December 13, 2025 07:00 PM (H9K3b)
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Glad the 'bubble' candles got mentioned. I've always been curious about the fluid therein. Alcohol?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2025 07:00 PM (XeU6L)
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I do not understand these women who don't want their kid's and husband's ornaments on the tree. Get another fucking tree for your sterile, matchy-matchy tree.
And if your babies are at the age where they hang all the ornaments in tbe same place, so be it. I mean, adjust them if any are in danger of being damaged or broken, but is there anything more fun than walking into a home and being able to tell immediately that there are toddlers and wee girls and boys who helped decorate?!
You're not getting these years back, when they're so proud of thei little macaroni ornaments, and so thrilled to hang them all by themselves.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 07:01 PM (Vvh2V)
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Fun to see everyone's ornaments and the stories behind them. Thanks, Horde.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 07:01 PM (6p0Jv)
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We had a sort of aluminum tree. It was shaped like the metallic ones, but was white flocked. Mated it with red balls and tear-drops. And the color wheel, of course.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 07:01 PM (uQesX)
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I have a star tree topper that throws out a disco light effect on the ceiling. It's fun. I should have thought to send a pic.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 07:05 PM (6p0Jv)
Sharing the spirit of the season is a priceless gift.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 13, 2025 07:05 PM (kB9dk)
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We collected several large nutcrackers soldiers when we lived in Germany. They are in storage now, but when we find our retirement home they will emerge again.
Just glad that were in Germany back when it was not infested with hajjis.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 13, 2025 07:08 PM (0aYVJ)
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Just glad that were in Germany back when it was not infested with hajjis.
Posted by: Pug Mahon
Only Murcans, ammiright?
Posted by: MkY at December 13, 2025 07:11 PM (q6tQZ)
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Any chance of a ' do it again' thread for next week?
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:12 PM (sDNVV)
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Thank you so much for this thread, TRex! For the first time in my life, I didn't decorate, so our ornaments weren't out to photograph, but I hope to participate next year, should you choose to repeat the idea. I have multiple trees, full of ornaments, and yes, a few trees are somewhat themed, but if we had kids, those handmade ones would be front and center, along with the ones from my grandparent's tree, and those my mama collected for as when I was a little girl, shabby though they are.
You gawt-damned morons brought tears to my eyes with your stories. And tcn's little tiger! 🥰🥰🥰 and Viktor's kitties!
I hope you look at that ornament, and remember how cute he was, tcn...and that it helps you sane while he's doing his best to drive you insane right now!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 07:12 PM (Vvh2V)
Amy Schumer and her husband have decided to go their separate ways.
In an Instagram post shared on Friday, Dec. 12, the 44-year-old "Kinda Pregnant" star shared that she and her husband, chef Chris Fischer, have decided to split after seven years of marriage.
"Blah blah blah Chris and I have made the difficult decision to end our marriage after 7 years. We love each other very much and will continue to focus on raising our son. We would appreciate people respecting our privacy at this time," she wrote in the caption.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 13, 2025 07:12 PM (CWTWj)
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I'm the sole proprietor of the gun. Only the rats would have motive and it's too heave for them.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 07:12 PM (ONKca)
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Basically most of the day was spent prototyping a case in blender for the Quark Mini Linux computer and 3D printing it, and also creating terminal aliases and zsh helper functions.
Who knew you could spend an hour deciding how you want your backup time stamp formatted.
For moments like this, Gin helps immensely.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 13, 2025 07:13 PM (XV/Pl)
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Anybody knows what's Presdent Obama be doing foor Quanzar this yeer???
Posted by: Mary Cloggistein from Brattleboro, Vt at December 13, 2025 07:14 PM (38587)
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GRRRR. I forgot to submit. I have one of the ornaments I inherited from my maternal grandparents, the balance perished in the great tree crash of 2008. A small glass glass horn in pastels. Also, we have hubby nec's spaceman ornament that his parents gave him decades ago. Also, the hen eggs I painted and donate to a local historic site. The hen was a runt and produces eggs about a bit bigger then a quail egg.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 13, 2025 07:15 PM (2NHgQ)
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He had a butler named Rodchester. Rochester was black and I am sure the whole thing would be racist now.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone
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Also, he was part of the Amon n' Andy company.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 07:15 PM (ONKca)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 13, 2025 07:16 PM (CWTWj)
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Love that Christmas tree skirt Grateful made. And thanks to TRex for the thread. So many lovely memories that were shared.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 07:16 PM (yTvNw)
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Guy in his yard volunteered about his lit up nativity scene "we had a light in the Virgin Mary, but she burned out".
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 07:17 PM (Kt19C)
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102 Any chance of a ' do it again' thread for next week?
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:12 PM
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So it is written, so it shall be done.
Second chance for those that missed this one. Go ahead and send your ornaments. To keep it lively, the Hobby Thread mailbox will accept other Christmas decorations, crafts, nativity scenes, etc.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:19 PM (sDNVV)
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Thank you for second chances for those who were tardy, TRex.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 07:20 PM (6p0Jv)
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I love all the Horde ornaments! I don't decorate, except last year for my mom. But I have many ornaments (mine and now many of hers). I have a few from Russia. They have never made an appearance on a tree because they're definitely not cat-proof. My most treasured ornament is one that my SIL had made for Jesse and me for the only Christmas we had together. It hangs on the doorknob of my bedroom year round.
Last year we put up a little fake Charlie Brown tree, and only with non-breakable ornaments. It was up from before Thanksgiving through early February and the cat never knocked it over. A Christmas miracle :-)
11965 I'm seriously considering a binocular 10x and 20x stereo microscope for my electronics bench. It should help placing micro-components (SMT) on circuit boards for a couple of kit builds that I plan to start constructing soon. Hoping Santa is gracious enough to have it under the tree in a couple of weeks. I've dropped more than enough hints to one of his helpers over the last few months.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 13, 2025 06:31 PM (abIsI)
Please post a review if Santa comes through, that's something I'm thinking about getting. I usually stick to the larger SMT parts, 1206 or bigger, and do OK with a magnifier and lots of light, but a microscope would help my 29 year old eyes.
Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 07:21 PM (X5Jzz)
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Vinegar Syndrome sells an ornament that looks like a VHS tape.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 13, 2025 07:21 PM (CHHv1)
12170 Our 15 year old microwave went tango uniform, had to order a new one from Lowes. Merry Christmas, so instead of steaks tonight, we are eating boiled cabbage. Praise the Lord!
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 06:36 PM (LHPAg)
Please tell me you're not eating steak tonight because you're saving money to pay for the new microwave, and not because you can't cook them in the dead microwave.
Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 07:24 PM (X5Jzz)
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Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:19 PM (3ek7K)
God bless you for that, fourseasons!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 07:24 PM (Vvh2V)
The tree is up at Casa Sin Problemas, GOA. We retired the 15 Year-old tree that served us well in California. Picked up the current 4ft "spruce" from Facebook Marketplace earlier today from a local. 40 bucks and she threw in two 50-light strings and other assorted ornaments. Merry Christmas, Hoard!
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 07:25 PM (nbLIj)
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Time to say thank you before the next act takes the Ace of Spades stage. Thanks to all who contributed. We'll do this again next week with the same or similar theme (because Ben Had said so), so send in your goodies.
If you missed, please submit. If you submitted this week and have another ornament or Christmas decoration in mind, OK to send.
Amy Schumer and her husband have decided to go their separate ways.
In an Instagram post shared on Friday, Dec. 12, the 44-year-old "Kinda Pregnant" star shared that she and her husband, chef Chris Fischer, have decided to split after seven years of marriage.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 13, 2025 07:12 PM (CWTWj)
So, he married her and put up with her when she was a fat pig, and now that she's a skinny pig, she dumps him. Nice. And lucky him, to be rid of her.
Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 07:30 PM (X5Jzz)
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My old GE microwave went tits up a couple of years ago. Being on the cheap I bought one from Wally.
It's good for the money but that old GE was nice.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 07:31 PM (ONKca)
Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:31 PM (3ek7K)
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Please tell me you're not eating steak tonight because you're saving money to pay for the new microwave, and not because you can't cook them in the dead microwave.
Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 07:24 PM (X5Jzz)
Nobody cooks steaks in a microwave. We only use a hot skillet.
-Amos 'n Andy
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 07:32 PM (LHPAg)
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Well I will find some of my painted ornaments and send a picture in
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:35 PM (Ia/+0)
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Her husband looks like a fairly normal, fairly skinny dude. Not on ozempic.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 07:38 PM (zZu0s)
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Please tell me you're not eating steak tonight because you're saving money to pay for the new microwave, and not because you can't cook them in the dead microwave.
Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 07:24 PM (X5Jzz)
A microwave is no place for a steak. Frozen White Castles, maybe...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 07:39 PM (nbLIj)
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I had a medium-sized Sharp Carousel II that I got in 1986. It lasted 20 years before the keypad went wonky, but could still use "minute plus" and some of the number keys. Kept it another few years, LOL. The next one, same brand, only lasted 8? I think. Now have a Hamilton Beach unit that sometimes shuts off mid-cycle. Have had it only 4 or 5 years.
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 07:39 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:40 PM (sDNVV)
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Day after Christmas have a little historical miniature game I am making, not sure how well it will come out but will post a picture anyway.
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:40 PM (Ia/+0)
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Glad the 'bubble' candles got mentioned. I've always been curious about the fluid therein. Alcohol?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2025 07:00 PM (XeU6L)
My Dad said it was carbon tetrachloride. Alcohol + heat might end badly. Seems to me there was a little hunk of granular stuff in the bottom to nucleate the bubbles, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 07:41 PM (npFr7)
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Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:25 PM (3ek7K)
Ditto, and may our Dear Lord shower you with many blessings in this new year coming!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 07:42 PM (Vvh2V)
Hubby and I think the lockdown had a lot to do with things being crap.
Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:45 PM (3ek7K)
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Joe Kidd, you know you are at the top of my dance card so we can officially open the dance floor.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:46 PM (sDNVV)
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Heh, for those still lingering on: it was for a Carter WGD, from a '50's Hudson Big Six 308ci straight 6 with a 2-barrel carb.
Posted by: tRusty Hudson at December 13, 2025 07:46 PM (pDcsL)
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I used to decorate living room window sill with artificial branch garland, various pine/fir/spruce cones, and a set of bubble lights. Not 'old stock' lights-- I had purchased them at a Bi-Mart (discount store) in the early 2000s.
Anyway, left them on too long one afternoon and one of the bubbler thingys popped. Liquid got too hot? Stained the mini-blind with blue splatter, but no fire.
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (rdVOm)
Estate sales are great for finding old, cool stuff.
Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:43 PM (3ek7K)
Bubble lights are the best damn Christmas lights ever invented. Earliest Christmas memories included those. I think they only lasted a few years, but they made an umpression...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 07:48 PM (nbLIj)
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Got my coin rolling done. Ninety-one dollars in Canadian coins rolled, to go to the bank on Monday. I probably have a near-equal amount in U.S. coin that I will haul South with me, and feed to the Coinstar machine in WalMart. No point in rolling them.
Did a quick run to town for groceries, mail, etc. The white '99 Suburban started right up, not a moment's delay, despite having cold-soaked for several days in sub-zero weather. By the time I'd made the three miles to town, the heater was making its presence felt, and by the time I got home, it was nice and warm inside the beast. +5 F right now, and I saw what appears to be a Chinook arch in the far south, so it may warm up, as the forecast calls for.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 07:51 PM (npFr7)
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Joe Kidd, you know you are at the top of my dance card so we can officially open the dance floor.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:46 PM (sDNVV)
I'm always up for a nice waltz..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00Ig33jctXs
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 07:52 PM (nbLIj)
Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:52 PM (3ek7K)
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Mom and Dad still have a Sharp Carousel that Grandma and Grandpa got them in the 80s. Has a dial timer setting (like an egg timer.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 07:52 PM (zZu0s)
157 It was 55 degrees here in SW Wyoming today. Very strange for us, but we'll take it.
Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:54 PM (3ek7K)
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Revised forecast for tomorrow is a high of 14 and a low of 4.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 07:54 PM (zZu0s)
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Heh, for those still lingering on: it was for a Carter WGD, from a '50's Hudson Big Six 308ci straight 6 with a 2-barrel carb.
Posted by: tRusty Hudson at December 13, 2025 07:46 PM (pDcsL)
I know a guy here in Alberta who is restoring a Hudson Hornet convertible with Twin-H power. Well, it's in the queue; a couple of other high-dollar cars precede it. Rick is a very skilled and meticulous restorer. It will be done right, when it gets done.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 07:55 PM (npFr7)
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It was 55 degrees here in SW Wyoming today. Very strange for us, but we'll take it.
Posted by: fourseasons
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So, that's where the good temps went, cause they certainly aren't here...enjoy them!
5 y/o granddaughter asked today if we are going to have a brown Christmas this year, lol.
Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:56 PM (3ek7K)
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5 y/o granddaughter asked today if we are going to have a brown Christmas this year, lol.
Posted by: fourseasons
Ha! I'm sure you assured her whatever the color, all Christmases are magical and good. What a great age, enjoy your time with her!
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Pictures or it didn't happen I should take to heart. Sculpted a 15 piece Southwest nativity and didn't take picture one.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Ugh! I did that for many years....finally about 8-10 years ago I intentionally tried to take a photo of everything I made....
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Speaking of hobbies, I am going to hot up the soldering iron, and do some more work on this ancient radio I am refurbishing. It's a 1936 Canadian Westinghouse "farm radio", meant to run off dry cells or storage batteries. Uses "fat pin" tubes, 4, 5, and 6 pin tubes, with metal top caps for the grids. I have no idea if it will play, but it's kind of fun to mess with. All the wiring was rubber-insulated, and the rubber has become crisp, and falls off in strips. So replace nearly all the wires in the set. And the paper capacitors, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 08:01 PM (npFr7)
167 We had the four grandchildren, 3 to 11 y/o today so mom and dad could get everything wrapped and ready for Santa.
It was a wonderful day.
Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 08:02 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:03 PM (zZu0s)
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The Grateful, I did manage to get a friend to send me pictures of some rustic churches I did out of hunkts of wood here on the farm. I would like to submit them.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 08:04 PM (sDNVV)
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>>>I probably have a near-equal amount in U.S. coin that I will haul South with me, and feed to the Coinstar machine in WalMart. No point in rolling them.
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I go to self check out, cash machine with a pocket full of coins (best done at low traffic times). First thing, all the pocket coin goes into the machine.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (ONKca)
Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 08:07 PM (3ek7K)
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I go to self check out, cash machine with a pocket full of coins (best done at low traffic times). First thing, all the pocket coin goes into the machine.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (ONKca)
Well, that's a way to avoid the Coinstar vigorish, I guess.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 08:08 PM (npFr7)
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The bank here will take all your coins and they don't charge anything.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 08:09 PM (sDNVV)
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We have an original aluminum tree that we put up every alternate year. Manitowoc (where a lot of the trees were made) puts a bunch on display in Main Street shops every year. I would seriously love to find a pink one.
Posted by: The Neon Madman at December 13, 2025 08:15 PM (yNfcm)
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I know that Hobby Lobby has pink trees, but not sure if they are aluminum, probably just plastic
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I did manage to get a friend to send me pictures of some rustic churches I did out of hunkts of wood here on the farm. I would like to submit them.
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Would LOVE to see those!
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Love all of the ornaments! I have been collecting one (or two) a year since we got engaged in 1978. I have a lot. Plus a few antique ones from his family and mine.
My favorite is a ceramic one of two boys carrying a tree. Which is similar to one of my favorite photos I took of our boys "helping" carry the tree my brother cut on our farm. It is framed and I keep it in our bedroom in the event of fire (which is weird as I will probably forget it).
I keep meaning to paint the scene and have Christmas cards printed but I never do.
Christmas does bring back good memories and sentiment of family past and present. I wish all good memories on you all.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 08:50 PM (WONhk)
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Forgot to add: when our sons were hatched I got them a new ornament each year. Either with the date or I wrote the date and their name in sharpie on the back.
The first Christmas of their marriage I gave them each bins of these ornaments for their tree with their brides.
Now I buy an ornament (with the year!!!) for them plus our grandchildren. Often with their names and ,of course, the year. Etsy has some great artists who make them.
I confess to being an Etsy addict.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 08:54 PM (WONhk)
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5 y/o granddaughter asked today if we are going to have a brown Christmas this year, lol.
Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:56 PM (3ek7K)
You, too?
I have been praying for snow. The Mountain West is getting ripped off so far.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 08:58 PM (WONhk)
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Done soldering for a bit. Got the "A" circuit done. Time to wash dishes, and make some supper.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 09:24 PM (npFr7)
Ace of Spades Pet Thread, December 13
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Good afternoon and welcome to the almost world famous Ace of Spades Pet Thread. Thanks for stopping by. Kick back and enjoy the world of animals.
Would you like a treat?
Let's relax a little with the animals and leave the world of politics and current events outside today.
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What should you do if you see a fox in your yard?
Southern Living
Foxes are beautiful animals that you may be surprised to see in your garden. But like many wildlife species, they’ve learned to live near us. "Foxes are more commonly observed now," Robert Pierce, PhD, associate professor and state extension fisheries and wildlife specialist at the University of Missouri. "You’ll see them in urban and suburban areas because they’ve adapted to the conditions."
Most of the time, foxes are naturally shy and hide from us. "Generally, we don’t have negative interactions with them," says Sheldon Owen, PhD, wildlife extension specialist at West Virginia University. "They prefer to stay out of sight and are primarily nocturnal, although you will also see them during the day, especially if they’re hunting for their pups."
The greatest risk to people and pets with foxes is that they can carry canine distemper, fleas, ticks, and the mites that can cause mange, says Owen. Like all mammals, foxes also can carry rabies, but it’s a small number, as compared to other wildlife species such as bats, raccoons and skunks.
Typically, foxes are not a serious issue for homeowners. "Most often we get calls from people saying they have a fox family in their back yard," says Pierce. "We advise to give them their space and observe and enjoy the experience."
More at the link. And this is interesting:
Foxes may use Earth’s magnetic field to hunt, judging both direction and distance. When prey is hidden under snow, they tend to leap northeast and dive in a corkscrew motion.
Conor Pup was diagnosed with lymphoma and started chemotherapy treatment at a canine oncologist in the mid-fall. It was not an easy path for either of us, but we endeavored to persevere but as you can see, he graduated at the top of his class.
Hrothgar
Hate to hear about Conor's big challenge. You both deserve to feel a sense of gratitude and pride.
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Walking the girls around the thousands of Christmas lights downtown. They were good even though they are not very social (farm dogs). A friend made the noses for some muzzles we had. One gentleman asked how we kept the noses on until he got a closer look. Merry Christmas.
S.Lynn, Idaho
What a wonderful story! Merry Christmas, girls!
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Howdy K.T.,
Wifey and I were privileged to attend the TX MoMe a couple months ago and she took the attached photo of the playful cute dog running around the property (presumably the pet of our hosts Rancher Bob and Cow Horse Queen); I think I asked around what its name was but none of the other attendees I inquired with knew.
I think I'll just call him (or her?) "Ace" next time ... ;-)
Cheers (and thanks for hosting the Pet Thread each weekend)!
-- ShainS and "Wifey of ShainS
Prescott, AZ, USA
Howdy! Thanks for sending in a photo of such a great PetMoron!
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Next Week, Christmas-themed Pets, especially!
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Thank you for sharing your pets and animal photos and stories with us today.
If you would like to send pet and/or animal stories, links, etc. for the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, the address is:
petmorons at protonmail dot com
Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known when you comment at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.
Until next Saturday, have a great week!
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If you start feeling nostalgic, here a link to last week's Pet Thread, the Ace of Spaces Pet Thread, December 6
I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 13, 2025 03:46 PM (LjSYW)
2 What should you do if you see a fox in your yard?
I have 11 choices.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 03:46 PM (tgvbd)
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That dog at the TXMOME got a special treat from me, though not on purpose.
I had set a plate with a hamburger on it on the side tray of my lawn chair. Unfortunately, the plate wasn't very stable and fell off when I wasn't looking. Or it was helped. Not sure.
In any case, the dog was kind enough to clean up my mess.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 03:54 PM (Kt19C)
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I heard Cow Horse Queen call one of the dogs "Zip." I forget which one, though.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 13, 2025 03:55 PM (yNJrI)
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I'd love to see a fox in my yard. If I had one. We've had opossums here, and I know I've glimpsed a coyote or two in the predawn hours when I work out.
I did see foxes often in the Denver area, including ones dashing around the animal enclosures at he zoo. The staffers told me they no longer even tried to keep the foxes out; they slipped under the fences or slid between the rails. One morning in Red Rocks Park, I saw one coppery, bushy-tailed fellow on the opposite side of the road where I'd parked. He seemed totally unfazed by the presence of me or my car. I sat and watched him look around until he trotted away from the trail, intent on his own foxy pursuits.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 03:57 PM (wzUl9)
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You met Sakura last week, the stray calico weegie. Lately, she has become more affectionate and more willing to spend time indoors with me. Still freaks out at the presence of other people. She has also been joined by a smol black cat I am calling "Babymonster." Who despite being hungry and frightened is also a lot more willing to get close and even be petted than most stray khets. Sakura has become territorial about our backyard, but she lets Babymonster in.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2025 03:58 PM (f0sNM)
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Both of my furry thugs, Stirling the big black medium-hair and little gray Dagny the fluffy fireplug of a Siberian, were sleeping with me when I woke from my nap. The day is warm but not hot; I have the door open, and they are now intently watching things of interest to them through the screen door.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 03:59 PM (wzUl9)
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Woof!! Wonderful pets pals as always. Hrothgar, you are an exceptional person for doing what you did for Conor the scholar pup. Good on ya. Thanks for the pet thread K.T.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 13, 2025 04:00 PM (9W1vH)
Posted by: Joyenz at December 13, 2025 04:02 PM (2F0/Y)
11 Sakura has become territorial about our backyard, but she lets Babymonster in.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2025
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If Babymonster is a boy and Sakura is not spayed, you may have a joyful event coming. Precocious Stirling was only five months old, and Dagny the same, when he was already trying to get next to her and warm himself by her fire. We had to separate them until I could get first one and then the other docked.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 04:02 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 04:03 PM (Ia/+0)
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Pretty sure I had a family of red foxes denned up under an old truck body in the bottom corner of my lot a few years ago. Have not seen any lately. No animal tracks at all in last night's snowfall, which I just came in from clearing with the snowblower. Must be too cold. Usually plenty of bunny tracks, and deer sometimes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 04:04 PM (npFr7)
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9 Woof!! Wonderful pets pals as always. Hrothgar, you are an exceptional person for doing what you did for Conor the scholar pup. Good on ya. Thanks for the pet thread K.T.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 13, 2025 04:00 PM (9W1vH)
Here here! Conor is an extraordinary boy, to be sure, and deserves all the love, attention and care Sir Hrothgar lavishes on him!! Frankly, both are extraordinary souls!!!
Posted by: moki at December 13, 2025 04:07 PM (wLjpr)
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Rancher Bob and Cow Horse Queen's handsome fellow is a heterochrome (if I'm using the term right) -- one eye blue and the other brown?
When Miss Linda gets a look at the Christmas outfits on S. Lynn's girls, she's gonna want to devise something like it for my cats. She keeps saying, "They don't mind costumes." To which I reply, "How do you know?" She insists on putting a Santa suit on them every year and taking pictures. At that it's better than the princess cone-cap and cape she used to dress the late Marie-Antoinette in. True, Marie did not seem to mind; it meant more attention from her human servants, and that she loved.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 04:08 PM (wzUl9)
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Smash rescued a neighbor's cat from being dinner for a fox several years ago.
See them frequently enough around here to not be surprised when one passes through.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 13, 2025 04:10 PM (QVmho)
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My big tom caught a mouse and "played it to death" night before last, just before I let him in for the night. He got a treat for being a mighty hunter, but I let the mouse on the porch.
The next morning I threw it over the fence for the neighbor's chickens, and a while later I saw the youngest kitten batting it around and mock-hunting it. When she saw me watching she picked it up and trotted over to show me.
She got a treat too, and the sadly mangled mouse went in the compost heap, hopefully for good.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 04:11 PM (rbvCR)
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Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2025 03:58 PM (f0sNM)
So glad to hear you are earning their trust.
Hrothgar
So sorry your pup had to even go through that. I am glad he is doing well. We have lost several cats to lymphoma. Horrible disease.
Posted by: Joyenz at December 13, 2025 04:12 PM (2F0/Y)
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We had a fox napping in our yard all afternoon last Sunday
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 13, 2025 04:15 PM (DoBxX)
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There was an item on a thread last week about the suggestion that raccoons are becoming more domesticated. I find this hard to believe. They are smart creatures, but still wild animals. It may take a long while before they are domesticated, if ever.
Maybe they are becoming "domestic-lite," as in perfectly happy to live in proximity to humans for the food and even the entertainment value. The way cats began to take up with us.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 04:16 PM (wzUl9)
We're fortunate that neither the cat, nor the dog, nor the four "cousin" dogs visiting yesterday, care about the tree inside the house.
Daisy, our dear, sweet and sensitive Malinois, did not care for this brief, creative version of Jingle Bells. Made her whine and cry, so I stopped it before the end.
A couple years ago, had a HUGE mole/vole problem. Backyard looked like varicose veins. Noticed that a pair of foxes (assuming M/F pair) started showing up in the backyard in the EARLY morning (I generally wake up around 4:30 and grab some coffee). Within 4-6 months NO MORE MOLES/VOLES!!!!
Ya think the two might be somehow linked?????
-SLV
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 04:21 PM (e/Osv)
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There was an item on a thread last week about the suggestion that raccoons are becoming more domesticated. I find this hard to believe. They are smart creatures, but still wild animals. It may take a long while before they are domesticated, if ever.
Maybe they are becoming "domestic-lite," as in perfectly happy to live in proximity to humans for the food and even the entertainment value. The way cats began to take up with us.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 04:16 PM (wzUl9)
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I think an animal has to have a distinct useful purpose to humans before it can truly be called "domesticated." Racoons don't serve any purpose other than to be a nuisance. Acclimated to human activity, but not in danger of being domesticated any time soon.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 13, 2025 04:23 PM (mT+6a)
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I think an animal has to have a distinct useful purpose to humans before it can truly be called "domesticated." Racoons don't serve any purpose other than to be a nuisance. Acclimated to human activity, but not in danger of being domesticated any time soon.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 04:22 PM (ESVrU)
I think "acclimated" to humans is the key here. I live in the suburbs next to a reservoir, so we get ALL sorts of critters in the neighborhood. This time of year, it's 6-10 deer in the yard eating acorns and crabapples.
I go outside to warm the truck, and they may glance at me, but they don't run. I swear I have been within 15 feet of a couple. Hmm, is this where I start considering "alternate" hunting methods???
-SLV
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 04:28 PM (e/Osv)
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I've seen several foxes in my little part of Babylon DC, even as developed as it is here, for years. Fairly common siting.
Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by meow at December 13, 2025 04:31 PM (sAmhv)
28…This time of year, it's 6-10 deer in the yard eating acorns and crabapples.…
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter
We hardly ever saw deer all summer and early fall. Funny thing, as soon as hunting season starts, we get many of them here in the living area.
They drive Daisy dog crazy, mad barking and running from window to window. But so do the feral cats down the driveway. Also, squirrels, blowing leaves, and hallucinations, as far as we can tell.
29There was an item on a thread last week about the suggestion that raccoons are becoming more domesticated. I find this hard to believe.
Its pretty easy. We're not trapping or shooting 'coons, or deer, or turkey anymore.
Let the grocery store shut down a couple weeks. Then you'll hear some bangs. And then all those cute critters won't come 'round anymore. They won't be extinct ... as a species.
And you'll see some skinny, miserable people. And some people that don't look at the end of starvation. The End.
Posted by: Howdy at December 13, 2025 04:34 PM (ivXYS)
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You don't want to have foxes nearby during mating season. If you've read or heard that a vixen sounds like woman screaming, it's very true. First time I heard it I wasn't sure if I needed to call 911 because someone was in trouble.
Posted by: Vendette at December 13, 2025 04:34 PM (pJK38)
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It's snowing a lot, here at Little Oaxaca on the Miami. Smoke the Cat wanted to go out earlier. He took a couple of steps outside into the falling snow & cold...and turned around his own length and went back in!
Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 04:36 PM (XjTSo)
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A friend of mine loves black cats and recently lost one. Who knows? Maybe Babymonster will end up being one of the lucky ones who finds a home.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2025 04:37 PM (f0sNM)
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There was an item on a thread last week about the suggestion that raccoons are becoming more domesticated. I find this hard to believe.
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This was actually a topic of discussion at a work meeting. Item 5: Raccoons: Are they self-domesticating. I'm not making this up.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2025 04:38 PM (f0sNM)
34 A friend of mine loves black cats and recently lost one. Who knows? Maybe Babymonster will end up being one of the lucky ones who finds a home.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2025
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In my limited experience (three so far), black cats are the most easygoing and adaptable, and possibly the smartest, of all the coat colors.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 04:40 PM (wzUl9)
35 Award of Merit, but not Best of Breed, for The Big Dummy at today's AKC National Championship show. Her Majesty said he was a hot and tired boy.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 04:40 PM (tgvbd)
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What should you do if you see a fox in your yard?
I have 11 choices.
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The fox doesn't need my approval, he needs the approval of Smoke the yard panther.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 04:42 PM (XjTSo)
37 It's snowing a lot, here at Little Oaxaca on the Miami. Smoke the Cat wanted to go out earlier. He took a couple of steps outside into the falling snow & cold...and turned around his own length and went back in!
Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025
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Last January we had a historic (for here) snowfall. Linda got the idea to see how little Dagny the Siberian would react to conditions in her "homeland." She toted Dagny out -- and the little cat, normally silent, let out a yowl you could have heard across the street. We brought her in quick.
Last month she tried exposing Dagny to warmer and calmer conditions. Dagny did not complain at all. So it was the cold or the snow hitting her fur that bothered her before, not the vista of the scary wide open outdoors.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 04:43 PM (wzUl9)
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Someone new moved into the neighborhood and has a gorgeous Siamese long haired blue eyed beauty. She is very friendly and has an air tag on her collar.
This is not a safe place for kitties. Too many cars and coyotes, owls, eagles and yes, fox. And she doesn’t seem particularly street smart. Ugh. Makes me horribly anxious and worried for the pretty pretty girl.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 13, 2025 04:43 PM (mT+6a)
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Posted by: Maths at December 13, 2025 04:44 PM (taD4S)
40 It's snowing a lot, here at Little Oaxaca on the Miami. Smoke the Cat wanted to go out earlier. He took a couple of steps outside into the falling snow & cold...and turned around his own length and went back in!
Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025
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At Christmas time in '89, we had another historic (for here) snowfall. When I got home, I decided to let Arizona the red-and-white tabby part-Coon out into the little fenced patio, to see how he'd react to "Maine" conditions. He padded around on the snow, sniffing at everything and holding his muzzle up to feel the snow on his nose. I got cold before he did and ushered him back inside.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 04:46 PM (wzUl9)
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7 You met Sakura last week, the stray calico weegie. Lately, she has become more affectionate and more willing to spend time indoors with me. Still freaks out at the presence of other people.
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Smoke the cat sort of joined me over the period of a couple of weeks. He was part of the beggars I feed for a while, but was a little different. He was less of a fraidy-cat & more confidant. Sometime in September he realized all the food came from inside our house, so he let himself in. He stayed longer each time, and by October he was staying for good. I'm sure he was previously owned, but put outside or abandoned right after he had atrained his full growth.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 04:47 PM (XjTSo)
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If anyone wants a possum as a pet or neighbor, they can come get the one that shows up here sometimes. He's attracted by the food I put out for the beggars, so i have had to switch feeding times. I have food for cats, not for possums.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 04:50 PM (XjTSo)
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Hrothgar, Sorry to hear about Conor's cancer. Hope he is fully recovered. You are special.
Posted by: Mrs JTB at December 13, 2025 04:53 PM (yTvNw)
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We have red foxes in our neighborhood although I haven't seen one in our yard since spring. Sometimes we hear them at night. It's a very odd sound, kind of a cross between a sheep's baa and a scream.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 13, 2025 04:57 PM (3nLb4)
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In my limited experience (three so far), black cats are the most easygoing and adaptable, and possibly the smartest, of all the coat colors.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 04:40 PM (wzUl9)
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I only have one sample (Penny) but she's very much like you describe.
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I had a fox conversation a few years back. I went outside for an early morning mug of coffee, to look at some work we were having done.
The fox walked up to me and cocked his head as though to say, Do I know you? As close as any dog. I just talked to him. He nodded and went off into the garden--between me and my house--checking back every few steps. You're still here? Then wandered away.
One of the workers was already on site. I said, Did you see that? He said, Never seen anything like it. So I have a witness.
Posted by: Wenda at December 13, 2025 05:02 PM (A65Zh)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 13, 2025 05:02 PM (+mUZM)
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A few years ago--before we adopted our dog, Luna--we had two baby foxes hang out in our yard. In central Texas, these are gray foxes. One of the fairly unique qualities of our foxes is that they are great tree climbers. The two babies in our yard frequented a hollow in one of our native live oaks. They'd crawl down and play and explore in our side yard.
We christened the female "Adventure Fox" and her brother "Cautious Fox" based on their behavior. Mom fox came by to tend them frequently. We had a very entertaining spring watching them grow up but have only occasionally seen foxes in our yard since then.
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at December 13, 2025 05:03 PM (FEVMW)
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>>The fox walked up to me and cocked his head as though to say, Do I know you? As close as any dog. I just talked to him. He nodded and went off into the garden--between me and my house--checking back every few steps. You're still here? Then wandered away.
The day I moved into this house some friends came over with a bottle of champagne to celebrate. We were out on the patio having some bubbly and a fox came out of the conversation land, stopped in the yard and just watched us. He stood there for about 30 seconds and then turned and trotted through the yard. Cheeky little bugger.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2025 05:09 PM (viF8m)
I am up and about (I have always recovered fairly quickly from most surgeries that I have had), and I am giving the nursing staff kittens because I am an old lady with an old lady's bladder, and when I need to go, I NEED TO GO!!!!! I have asked them to turn off the floor alarm....(they are threatening to assign me a full-time "handler" if I don't comply with the floor alarm, because I am a "fall risk"🤣🤣🤣
It looks like the largest tumor is, for all intents and purposes, dead. However, the smaller tumors are still there, and it looks like at least 1 more has cropped up. Some lymph nodes were sent off to be biopsied to see if the cancer has spread beyond the liver, and tissue from a couple of the smaller tumors was also sent off to see if those cancer cells have mutated (a common occurrence).
Once the surgeon got into the abdominal area, it was obvious to him that there was more tumor involvement than either the CT scans or the MRIs had shown (also a common occurrence), so he made the decision - which we had talked about in advance - to leave the liver intact and install an HAI pump inside of the liver instead.
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.....They will be running a “pump test” on Monday – while I am still in the hospital – to make sure that the pump is adequately delivering medication into my liver. If it is, the doctor thinks that I should be able to be discharged on Monday.
I don’t know when they plan on starting the chemo through the pump, but it appears that I will not have to “sit through” weekly chemo sessions, as the medication is sort of time-released through the HAI pump – a couple of weeks of focused chemo, followed by a week or two off. I will also be able to continue oral chemo in addition to the concentrated internal chemo which will be given through the pump. Once we know more about potential mutations in the cancer cells, a decision will be made about what type of chemo I will need to be on going forward.
I don’t know what the side effects of the new chemo in the pump will be, nor do I know if they will be starting a different oral chemo – it’s going to depend on if they find a new mutation in the tumor tissues. If the combination of both of these treatments results in tumor shrinkage, the hope is to get me to a liver resection at some point in the near future.
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I see lots of grey foxes around here, especially when I'm going to work in the early morning.
Jane and Zip are great dogs!! I need to bring my dog to see if they'll rub off on him. Buckley is a really great dog, just needs a few rough edges smoothed out. 🤗
Posted by: lin-duh at December 13, 2025 05:12 PM (VCgbV)
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....If the new chemo(s) don’t shrink the tumors, we are hoping that at the very least I will get several months more of Progression-Free Disease (PFD).
In the meantime, “Bucket List Year #2: Electric Boogaloo” plans continue apace. First on the list is our trip to Las Vegas in February, where we will be seeing Chicago (the band), Piff the Magic Dragon, Barry Manilow, The Wizard of Oz, The Eagles, and Penn and Teller, as well as taking a nighttime limo ride down the Strip and a helicopter tour over the Grand Canyon with a sojourn over the Skywalk.
In March we have tickets to see Jeff Dunham in concert in Reno combined with a visit with our oldest daughter’s family (well really, we’re going to see the grandbabies!), followed by a George Strait Concert in Lubbock in April, and then a trip down to Galveston in May to see Jeff Foxworthy and to spend some time with my BFF from high school and her family.
Last but not least, in July we have tickets to see “Hamilton” at Bass Hall in Fort Worth. We will be going with a large-ish group of friends to see that, preceded by dinner at The Cheesescake Factory (which is right across the street from Bass Hall).
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....Then, God willing and the creek don’t rise, in October we will be driving down to Corsicana for the annual Ace of Spades Moron Meet-Up – I have promised to bring along at least one “Black Forest Cake” from The Swiss Pastry Shop in Fort Worth.
Well, that’s all for now – I would like to thank everyone for all of their prayers and well wishes, and thank goodness for the miracle of modern medicine!
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That’s fascinating about your foxes! I looked up foxes in Texas, because I know I’ve seen a red fox here in East Texas, and learned that grey foxes are indigenous, but red foxes got introduced and turned loose by somebody a while back, so there’s a lot of those around too.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 05:13 PM (k5cxK)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 05:14 PM (k5cxK)
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Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 13, 2025 05:11 PM (fV+di)
Continued prayers. Stay strong and faithful.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 05:16 PM (KDPiq)
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44 We have red foxes in our neighborhood although I haven't seen one in our yard since spring. Sometimes we hear them at night. It's a very odd sound, kind of a cross between a sheep's baa and a scream.
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Foxes can make some goofy sounds at times. I've heard them yelling during the mating season, and it makes me wonder what that noise is. Even though I know it's foxes.
Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 05:16 PM (XjTSo)
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The foxes and my cats seem to coexist with each other.
Posted by: lin-duh at December 13, 2025 05:16 PM (VCgbV)
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And while I’m not wild about “Hamilton”, I’ve been to Bass Hall a few times and I think that’s one of the best performance venues in the entire country.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 05:17 PM (k5cxK)
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I was golfing a few years ago at the local club and saw two fox pups, watching me play. They followed the ball in the air, it was cute. Then one of them nipped the other and they started chasing and playing with each other.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at December 13, 2025 05:22 PM (8NxQe)
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OT, breaking. Mass shooting at Brown University in RI. Links at Insty. Sounds bad.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 13, 2025 05:22 PM (3nLb4)
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Sitting in the car in the parking garage at Philly airport. Son's flight is delayed 3 hours. Aarrgh! And there is absolutely nowhere to go to eat or have a drink.
Posted by: IrishEi on the phone at December 13, 2025 05:25 PM (0vGzG)
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>>OT, breaking. Mass shooting at Brown University in RI. Links at Insty. Sounds bad.
Trying to get some details but seeing mixed reports. It does sound pretty bad.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2025 05:28 PM (viF8m)
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On-topic, just ran across this c/o blazingcatfur:
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 05:34 PM (Ia/+0)
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Love the pet thread. Thanks to all who send in pet pictures! I miss my doggehs.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 13, 2025 09:32 PM (t93WW)
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Our ten-year-old rescue cat needs expensive oral surgery to remove some teeth. She has resorption, which is a painful condition that can lead to severe infection. Fortunately, we caught it in time.
ChupaMate: "We should do a better job of keeping her bowls clean by running them through the dishwasher more to reduce the bacteria."
Me: "I agree we should run them through more, but remember she licks her ass."
ChupaMate: "..."
End of discussion.
Posted by: ChupaMe at December 14, 2025 02:18 PM (oh80+)
Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, Dec. 13
Happy Winter Season! Don in Kansas has something cheerful for us:
It's more winter than fall now, and there's little happening outside, or inside. However, a friend up the street has a little greenhouse in which the plants are quite active . . .
Click on the link for a few more plants, including a Bird of Paradise.
Don also posted some Romanian Folk Dances by Bartok."Some easy Bartok. His music is not all grating dissonances."
Moldova (see earlier thread) was once part of the Romanian principality, and they speak Romanian there.
The Soviet era meant that most tomatoes grown there were developed as open-pollinated strains, not as hybrids. One of these is Glory of Moldova. It's a little orange saladette tomato that gets some great reviews. I love the name. "Glory of Moldova" is a little orange tomato!
Thinking about next year's garden choices?
"Glory of Moldova" is probably in here somewhere. Romania is next door. But in addition to little orange and yellow tomatoes, big red oxhearts are prominently mentioned in the comments. Those are great, too.
1504 varieties of Romanian tomatoes at the Brussels festival! ❤️🍅
More typical winter experiences coming up for many people:
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Edible Gardening/Putting Things By
Two batches of photos from Nan in AZ:
Summer was so hot, we didn't get much at all, but went out last week and found a nice collection of veggies and lettuce volunteering all over the place.
NICE. Glad there are SOME of us getting some veggies!
WOW.
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Gardens of The Horde
Had to capture this last leaf on my weeping willow. The very top of the tree and pure defiance in the face of winter.
Diogenes
Pure Defiance!
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Hope everyone has a nice weekend. If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening Thread, the address is:
ktinthegarden at g mail dot com
Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.
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Week in Review
What has changed since last week's thread? Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, Dec. 6
Any thoughts or questions? check out the fruit tree and apple cider comments near the end of the comment section.
I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.
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I have so many tomato seeds! But I am impressed by Cherokee Purple. I didn't get any vine ripened ones, but every single one ripened in the house and they were tasty. I still have some in the fridge. I think I will use grow bags for tomatoes next year and save my limited bed space for something else. I am still trying to plan things out.
I do have some chard still alive out there. It's covered up for now and I'll see what it looks like when this cold spell clears. I want to see how long it can go.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 13, 2025 02:18 PM (+mUZM)
Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 02:20 PM (W7XSX)
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Time to cut back all my runner bean vines. All the pods have been harvested. I got about 5 beans for every bean I planted.
Soon, I will own the runner bean market.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 02:21 PM (8SdDq)
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Well, winter season has officially begun. The first seed catalog, from Jung, arrived this week. My in the ground gardening is less likely at this age but there is still hope for some container garden veggies. That keeps me focused on reality, at least to a point.
One thing I've noticed is a little more emphasis on heirloom varieties and certified organic seeds. It's a small part of their offerings but still there.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 02:24 PM (yTvNw)
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 02:25 PM (LHPAg)
6 I like using grow bags. You can position them where you want.
I grew tomatoes in them one year and they grew very well.
Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 02:25 PM (3ek7K)
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That's not a very good return for runner beans in your area. Have you thought about a different strain?
At least you got blossoms, right?
San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 02:21 PM
Posted by: KT at December 13, 2025 02:26 PM (7vIsy)
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The small NC city we've moved to always tells everyone, the night before, that school will be closed the next day. And being a Southern town, that means 3 snowflakes puts them in snow panic. (I love it here, but cannot shake my NY upbringing were attitudes to snow is concerned.)
Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 02:27 PM (s0JqF)
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I set up the terrarium and small glass containers for house plants. Using a combination of natural and grow light. This is all an experiment but none of the plants committed suicide the first few days. I'm taking that as a hopeful sign. If nothing else, getting the tiny plants in the containers was fun.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 02:30 PM (yTvNw)
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we have a glaze of ice on everything. Decided not to take the dog to the lake because I didn't want the hassle of clearing off the windshield. Fortunately, he and Mr Trouble are content to just sleep today.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 13, 2025 02:31 PM (+mUZM)
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Good afternoon Greenthumbs
Might be leaving the leaves I didn't collect yet for warmer weather.
Did notice the Anaheim peppers in my mini greenhouse only were killed off by the frost not much more than a week ago. They certainly survived in there a few frosts.
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 02:35 PM (Ia/+0)
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The small NC city we've moved to always tells everyone, the night before, that school will be closed the next day. And being a Southern town, that means 3 snowflakes puts them in snow panic. (I love it here, but cannot shake my NY upbringing were attitudes to snow is concerned.)
Posted by: Eeyore
Then you drive on the roads with them and kind of understand why.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 13, 2025 02:36 PM (LjSYW)
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Remember a couple weeks ago I posted a comment about the lore surrounding "wooly caterpillars" and predicting winter?
The bugs got it right.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 02:36 PM (NwnyJ)
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Oddly I've got tulips poking out of the ground. I think they think it's spring. Who could blame them though it was almost 80° yesterday. Looks like today will be the same. So unseasonably warm. We should be measuring feet of snow in the mountains but there are barely patches. Ski resorts are almost 100% manmade snow right now.
Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 02:37 PM (5UnvZ)
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From Boise area: lows 30-46 F, highs 46-63. Our winter air stagnation advisory season has begun.
I raked up some leaves to finish a last leaf bag, Husband took 8 to the local drop-off, and that's it for raking - after this, he'll mow-mulch. The trash got the remaining Siberian Iris leaves.
I mixed up some of my birdseed mix - still have the supplies to make the same amount again. It's been so warm for this time of year, birds haven't been going through the seeds as fast as I expected.
We'll be cutting down our blue spruce Christmas tree out in the backyard, later today. (We planted a row at double density years ago - now we can start harvesting.)
Posted by: Pat* at December 13, 2025 02:37 PM (cA4Kb)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 02:43 PM (Kt19C)
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With the weather report for this winter my gardening activity will be with houseplants. Part of that is propagating from cuttings, or trying to. It seems I just like playing in the dirt if it's seated at a table.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 02:46 PM (yTvNw)
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 03:02 PM (Ia/+0)
23I do have some chard still alive out there. It's covered up for now and I'll see what it looks like when this cold spell clears. I want to see how long it can go.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 13, 2025 02:18 PM (+mUZM)
In the end of 2020 I rigged a hoop low tunnel out of various stuff I had around and had swiss chard most of the winter. I had less luck the following year, but we didn't have an ice storm either. I have also used those big sterilite clear plastic totes I got for free since they were broken and useless for storing stuff.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 03:03 PM (rbvCR)
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I do wish I could figure out the schedule for planting daikon for winter. I figure if they can grow it in South Korea, it should be a snap, here.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 03:04 PM (rbvCR)
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 03:24 PM (Ia/+0)
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this was a mast year for the oaks in my yard. acorns galore.
Posted by: DanMan
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A term that will not be recognized by all. The bears here rely significantly on acorns. As an aside, Mast General Store, there are several in the area:
https://shorturl.at/pnc2j
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2025 03:25 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: The margins at December 13, 2025 03:29 PM (pcnhy)
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Oaks and their productivity has been the subject of lots of arguments.
Reds tend to be more predictable than whites (at least on my bit of earf) and I have no idea on the evergreen oaks.
When we have a good white oak year, it's usually good deer hunting.
Posted by: MkY at December 13, 2025 03:30 PM (q6tQZ)
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I did get hoops and row covers but didn't set them up. same thing with my cold frame. am hoping to finally get this set up right come warmer weather
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 13, 2025 03:41 PM (+mUZM)
A 1943 MGM musical with Judy Garland and Mickey Rooney, Girl Crazy, is on Movies! now. Mickey, a bit of a hell-raiser, is sent out West to a town where "There hasn't been a woman since the Civil War," according to his stern tycoon father. No doubt complications with Judy will ensue.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 03:46 PM (wzUl9)
Two U.S. Army soldiers and a civilian interpreter were killed, and three others were injured in an ambush by an ISIS gunman in Syria on Dec. 13, according to the Pentagon and U.S. Central Command.
Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell said in a statement on social media that the attack occurred in the central Syrian town of Palmyra as U.S. forces were conducting a key leader engagement in support of ongoing counter-ISIS and counterterrorism operations.
The new president of Syria, Ahmed al-Sharaa, is supposedly against ISIS, but that is a tactical disagreement. Their overall goals are the same, so this attack, which will be condemned by Syria, is in furtherance of their shared goals of the creation of a worldwide caliphate and the destruction of the West.
And we are in bed with this maniac.
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 01:01 PM (nbLIj)
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Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell said in a statement on social media that the attack occurred in the central Syrian town of Palmyra as U.S. forces were conducting a key leader engagement in support of ongoing counter-ISIS and counterterrorism operations.
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That would probably make more sense if they were with Syrian forces, who also suffered high casualties. As it reads now it sounds like they are just getting ambushed by hostile locals.
IIRC those guys killed in Niger in Trump's first term were with Nigerian forces at the time. The Nigerian Army is pretty hopeless though. Even Wagner can't do much with them. Maybe the "new" Syrian Army is the same.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 01:02 PM (UdiE9)
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One of Trump's more "unfortunate" decisions was getting involved there.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 01:08 PM (NwnyJ)
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7 One of Trump's more "unfortunate" decisions was getting involved there.
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Obama's decision, though Trump has quite obviously not reversed it.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 01:09 PM (UdiE9)
muldoon, the Knights are 6-5, Navy is 9-2. What is the Black Knights' secret weapon here?
Full disclosure - niece is USNA graduate currently serving.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 13, 2025 01:10 PM (NcvvS)
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Worldwide cinders and ashes. Raze the place into the ground.
Your caliphate will be celebrated in the annals of fake history.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 13, 2025 01:11 PM (1zOXE)
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To all the participants in the last thread: Thank you for keeping me entertained.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 01:12 PM (fd80v)
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As I wrote I the last thread, the US stationed 2000 soldiers in Syria in 2014. In June of this year, Trump announced that the US would be cutting back from 8 bases to 1.
The reason they’re there is more complicated than anyone wants to go into.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 01:12 PM (k5cxK)
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It will all be worth it for the democracy and freedom
we’re bringing to Syria.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 01:13 PM (9iyS+)
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'The reason they’re there is more complicated than anyone wants to go into.'
The only conceivable legitimate reason would be to keep ISIS from returning. And I don't think we're accomplishing that.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 01:14 PM (fd80v)
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Seems about right. Americans are sacrificing blood and treasure 6,000 miles away in Syria while somali inbred savages are running amok in Minnesota and places like Michigan and New Jerksey can't build minarets fast enough. Remember we have to fight them there so they can come here and go to Cinnabon and molest employees.
Posted by: Clown World at December 13, 2025 01:15 PM (R/m4+)
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> One of Trump's more "unfortunate" decisions was getting involved there.
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Obama's decision, though Trump has quite obviously not reversed it.
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I think Trump was lauding the "new" Syrian president earlier in his term. This term, not his first.
A president with ties to the Taliban or some other Islamic terrorist outfit. But, not the "worst" of the terrorist outfits to chose from.
Still, a poor decision IMO.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 01:16 PM (NwnyJ)
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He is a young, attractive, tough guy, this Al-Sharaa fella is.
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 01:17 PM (2NGiN)
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Weren't there some generals bragging that they had, ah, 'circumvented' Trump 1.0 orders to get out of Syria?
Posted by: Nazdar at December 13, 2025 01:18 PM (NcvvS)
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16 American troops haven't left Syria since Obama put them there. Assad only control parts of the country, so we had troops stationed in the Kurdish held areas. There was a major to-do late in Trump's term (or right after it) when officials admitted they had lied about pulling some troops out (though I'm not remembering all the details precisely).
We might be more engaged now with the new government than we were before, but in military terms this isn't a new deployment, just a re-tasking of an existing one.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 01:19 PM (UdiE9)
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Willowed: been a fun couple days in the Mud Hudson. Three people have been killed in last two days in accidents just south of me on the NYS Thruway. Today three people killed in a murder-suicide in Greene County just north of me. Merry Christmas
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 01:20 PM (D+mpw)
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To all the participants in the last thread: Thank you for keeping me entertained.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 01:12 PM (fd80v)
Don't tune out just yet. I think the "entertainment" is going to last another thread.
Posted by: Otto Q. Cumber at December 13, 2025 01:20 PM (pcnhy)
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Willowed: Influencer defined = reach + engagement. Mostly reach.
Posted by: mot at December 13, 2025 01:22 PM (fIPNY)
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Weren't there some generals bragging that they had, ah, 'circumvented' Trump 1.0 orders to get out of Syria?
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Give this man a prize. You are correct, sir.
But certain business ventures and foreign influencers have determined that Syria is of strategic value and no mere elected official,
even the highest one in the land can override their veto.
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 01:22 PM (2NGiN)
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After all the poo flinging in the last thread , a shower might be a good idea
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 01:24 PM (D+mpw)
25 The only conceivable legitimate reason would be to keep ISIS from returning. And I don't think we're accomplishing that.
Posted by: Dr. Claw
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Next step: why do we want to keep ISIS from returning? Because they'll execute an operation in the US?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 13, 2025 01:24 PM (1N/bM)
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I wouldn't be surprised to see the Russians funding these attacks in Syria against us. Payback for funding the Ukes
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 01:25 PM (D+mpw)
Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 01:26 PM (XuXeR)
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And Christmas is coming so keep you heads on a swivel.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 13, 2025 01:26 PM (2WIwB)
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The only conceivable legitimate reason would be to keep ISIS from returning. And I don't think we're accomplishing that.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 01:14 PM (fd80v
What I’ve been told by a couple guys who had worked over there is that their actual purpose is to protect Chevron’s oil concessions in Western Syria, and they were placed there after Assad’s government became too weak to do so. “Isis” is just a catch all phrase for the renegades, gangs, and clans that make much of Syria a Mad Maxistan right now. Trump is giving support to the new leader because as bad as he is, he’s still better than having the entire place become Libya 2.0
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 01:27 PM (k5cxK)
Posted by: NCKate at December 13, 2025 01:29 PM (uQzkA)
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29 - if so, my answer would be to let Chevron foot the bill for security. Let them create another Executive Outcomes or Sandline if they don't want to use an existing PMC. Rules of engagement? Geneva Suggestions? Never heard of 'em.
Posted by: PabloD at December 13, 2025 01:31 PM (Epuwl)
34if so, my answer would be to let Chevron foot the bill for security
That business model doesn't make financial sense for Chevron.
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 01:33 PM (2NGiN)
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Sad news, at least there is a adult in the White house to deal with this
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 01:34 PM (Ia/+0)
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The biggest player in Syria right now is Turkey.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 01:35 PM (sDNVV)
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I don’t believe there is any actual organized ISiS anymore, But what IS in most of Syria is thousands of homicidally insane people roaming around, kind of like “The hills have Eyes” (middle eastern version)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 01:36 PM (k5cxK)
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A nigh-futile appeal, as effective as tears in the rain:
Unfortunately, when a COB deletes a comment, all subsequent comment numbers get decremented. SO, if someone references the deleted comment, or a later one, by comment number, it won't be referencing the intended comment.
(There are perma-links to comments, but they're hidden in the comment-number links, and for tech reasons, often don't cue up if you try to use that URL.)
To be clear, it's usually best to quote-back some relevant bit of the comment to which you're replying, including the commenter nic-name. Tedious, but if you want to be sure, it's about the only way to do it.
Comments which are simply, like, "I agree" might be referencing any previous comment. It's often amusing but oftener confusing, as Li'l Abner might say.
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The biggest player in Syria right now is Turkey.
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Exactly. I think it's reason #[insert big number here] why ending the Ukraine War is so critical. Erdogan gets leverage from the West by being (mostly) very pro-Ukraine. As a result, pressure isn't put on him that otherwise would be (like regarding 'migrants' to Europe or controlling his proxies in Damascus.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 01:37 PM (UdiE9)
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Don't tune out just yet. I think the "entertainment" is going to last another thread.
Posted by: Otto Q. Cumber
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I know, I know...! Let's engage in defensive ad hominem attacks!
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2025 01:38 PM (XeU6L)
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The current Syrian government is far weaker than most seem to realize. And also in defense of Trump trying to work with them - there are no “good” choices in Syria. Only trying to figure out what is the least bad choice.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 01:39 PM (k5cxK)
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'What I’ve been told by a couple guys who had worked over there is that their actual purpose is to protect Chevron’s oil concessions in Western Syria,...'
Chevron isn't much of a rallying point for a military commitment. My understanding of the reason for killing ISIS was because it was destabilizing Iraq and was going to be a new Al Queda.
'Trump is giving support to the new leader because as bad as he is, he’s still better than having the entire place become Libya 2.0'
My memory of Libya was that they killed Qaddafi, temporarily became jihadist and let a flood of migrants through. Which of those are we afraid of with Syria?
They can't kill Qaddafi again.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 01:40 PM (fd80v)
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41 - Yup, and if we want to transition from an idealist, Wilsonian foreign policy to a more realist one (something I devoutly wish for) then we can't refuse to work with someone because of their past. Libya in 2011 was far better off under Gaddafi in spite of his lunatic terrorism in the 1980s than it has been ever since his death.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 01:42 PM (UdiE9)
U.S. Central Command said the casualties resulted from an ambush by a lone ISIS gunman, who was engaged by U.S. forces and killed.
Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 01:42 PM (RuTUS)
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You’re correct the biggest player in Syria is Turkey, and I think the worst possible option would be for Syria to collapse into anarchy to the point where Erdogan would feel free to make it Turkey’s new southern province. And then Israel could be looking at the Turkish Army setting up camp right on its northern border.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 01:42 PM (k5cxK)
Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 01:43 PM (RuTUS)
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Comments which are simply, like, "I agree" might be referencing any previous comment. It's often amusing but oftener confusing, as Li'l Abner might say.
Now, carry on however you wish, as Morons will.
Posted by: mindful webworker - next lecture-- how to link to YooToobs
Posted by: mindful webworker - next lecture-- how to link to YooToob
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Theres them that do and them that don't.
Hard to get people to change there ways.
What gets it long running conversations about 'her' or 'him'. Huh?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 01:47 PM (w5Fg+)
😄 Just part of the price we pay for not having something awful like Diksuks comments.
Okay, so as one of the troublemaking COBs who create that confusion, how about instead of deleting comments, just blank out the text and nic? (And have Pixy adjust the autobanhammers to do the same.)
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The Israelis should say screw it and carve out a Druze homeland between the Golan Heights and Damascus. The Turks and Erdogan want to recreate the Ottoman Empire by getting land from Syria. Beat them to the punch
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 01:51 PM (D+mpw)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 13, 2025 01:54 PM (LjSYW)
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46 You’re correct the biggest player in Syria is Turkey, and I think the worst possible option would be for Syria to collapse into anarchy to the point where Erdogan would feel free to make it Turkey’s new southern province. And then Israel could be looking at the Turkish Army setting up camp right on its northern border.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Some might say, Erdogan calls that a plan.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 01:57 PM (w5Fg+)
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If the "lone" Syrian gunman has any ties to any group whatsoever, up to and including the Boy Scouts of Syria, those entire organizations should be wiped off the battlefield.
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 13, 2025 01:57 PM (vV6n9)
Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 01:00 PM (3ek7K)
Either leave, or else turn the place into an explicit colony, and govern with an iron fist. Convert all the muzzies to Christianity at gunpoint, and if they refuse to convert, shoot them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 01:58 PM (npFr7)
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My grandkids are so funny. Right now they can't fix the ice cream machine because the drum passcode won't work. So there is drumming and complaining coming from the other room that is hilarious.
At least they are getting along.
Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 01:59 PM (5UnvZ)
Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 02:01 PM (5UnvZ)
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51 The Israelis should say screw it and carve out a Druze homeland between the Golan Heights and Damascus. The Turks and Erdogan want to recreate the Ottoman Empire by getting land from Syria. Beat them to the punch
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 01:51 PM (D+mpw)
I agree! One of my criticisms of Netanyahu’s government is that they’ve treated this war like some great Bug Hunt where they keep taking out “bad guys, but they’ve refused to make any serious strategic moves that would make the long term situation better. Taking Mt Herman was great, but not really difficult after the official Syrian Army collapsed and everyone ran away from their posts.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 02:01 PM (k5cxK)
63 Right now they can't fix the ice cream machine because the drum passcode won't work.
Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 01:59 PM
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What does this mean?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 13, 2025 02:02 PM (azNOR)
muldoon, the Knights are 6-5, Navy is 9-2. What is the Black Knights' secret weapon here?
Full disclosure - niece is USNA graduate currently serving.
Posted by: Nazdar
The Knights no longer have defensive lineman cadet Wilhelm from the late 70s to 81.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 13, 2025 02:03 PM (QVmho)
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If we would just reach out with love to the rattlesnakes, I'm sure they'd stop being poisonous and biting us.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 02:04 PM (L/fGl)
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'Right now they can't fix the ice cream machine because the drum passcode won't work.
What does this mean?'
It means 'The dog barks at midnight. Await further transmission.'
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 02:05 PM (fd80v)
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63 Right now they can't fix the ice cream machine because the drum passcode won't work.
Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 01:59 PM
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What does this mean?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 13, 2025 02:02 PM (azNOR)
Thank for this question!
Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 02:06 PM (RuTUS)
I agree.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2025 01:40 PM (n9ltV)
heh
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I knew it.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 02:06 PM (w5Fg+)
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65 If we would just reach out with love to the rattlesnakes, I'm sure they'd stop being poisonous and biting us.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 02:04 PM (L/fGl)
Bears, too.
Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 02:07 PM (RuTUS)
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What does this mean?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 13, 2025 02:02 PM (azNOR)
The younger one is playing "codes" on my drum set while the older one is complaing that he's not doing the right code so he can fix the imaginary ice cream machine in their pretend cafe.
Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 02:07 PM (5UnvZ)
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70 What does this mean?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 13, 2025 02:02 PM (azNOR)
The younger one is playing "codes" on my drum set while the older one is complaing that he's not doing the right code so he can fix the imaginary ice cream machine in their pretend cafe.
Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 02:07 PM (5UnvZ)
Cool granddad.
Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 02:08 PM (RuTUS)
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Cool granddad.
Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 02:08 PM (RuTUS)
I get free imaginary hot chocolate.
Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 02:09 PM (5UnvZ)
China Taxes Condoms to Spark a Baby Boom – Protection Now Comes at a Price
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I don't recall my father mentioning this in his birds and the bees talk.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 02:09 PM (L/fGl)
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Libya in 2011 was far better off under Gaddafi in spite of his lunatic terrorism in the 1980s than it has been ever since his death.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 01:42 PM (UdiE9)
I did enjoy watching Gaddafi get sodomized with that stick after they pulled him out of that storm drain then killed him.
He seemed surprised they would do such a thing.
Posted by: Lindsey Graham, Closeted Homosexual at December 13, 2025 02:10 PM (R/m4+)
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>>>Either leave, or else turn the place into an explicit colony, and govern with an iron fist. Convert all the muzzies to Christianity at gunpoint, and if they refuse to convert, shoot them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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This could be a new Homeland for all the Islamists in America. It would be theirs to make great again.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 02:10 PM (w5Fg+)
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If the West's refugee policies made any sense, the million or so Syrian military aged men in Germany would have spent the last 3 years in refugee boot camps being trained as a security service to return to their country and impose order there, instead of lounging in hotels.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 13, 2025 02:12 PM (R86kT)
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If China makes abortion as universally available/subsidized as Russia does (and has done since Soviet times) this will just lead to women using abortion as birth control. I have no idea what China's healthcare system looks like though. I'm told that in spite of being "Communist" they have less of a social 'safety net' al la social security than pretty much anywhere outside of the Third World.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 02:12 PM (UdiE9)
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74 Libya in 2011 was far better off under Gaddafi in spite of his lunatic terrorism in the 1980s than it has been ever since
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Hillary had him murdered.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 02:13 PM (w5Fg+)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 02:17 PM (w5Fg+)
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Well, it has warmed up here, for some values of "warm up". Gone from 5 below to 5 above on the F scale. And no wind to speak of. Also about 2 inches of fresh snow. I am going to get armored up in the Helly Hansens, and go run the snowblower.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 02:18 PM (npFr7)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 02:13 PM (w5Fg+)
Had to clear the way for Fiat to buy Dodge and get back into the American market.
And that murder was pretty horrible to watch. Hillary's comments afterward showed what she really is. Anyone who could watch that and say 'we got him' is benieth contempt.
Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 02:21 PM (5UnvZ)
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According to the Legalinsurrection.com article the 'lone gunman ' was taken out
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 02:23 PM (Ia/+0)
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If China makes abortion as universally available/subsidized as Russia does (and has done since Soviet times) this will just lead to women using abortion as birth control. I have no idea what China's healthcare system looks like though. I'm told that in spite of being "Communist" they have less of a social 'safety net' al la social security than pretty much anywhere outside of the Third World.
Posted by: the lower depths
Just assume TPTB are lying through their teeth, as usual. Maybe party members get good care. Everyone else - Fuck 'em.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 13, 2025 02:31 PM (LjSYW)
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It may seem remote but don't think the rest of the world is ignorant about the program for wreaths being placed on U.S. Veterans' graves today, the Army-Navy Game which Trump will be attending, and so on.
I didn't respond in time - yeah, I'm a pita - but I had received pics of young children (yes, one related to me) in a largely special needs Scout troop in GA who are helping place wreaths honoring veterans in a cemetery.
They couldn't be prouder they're now old enough to help, or more respectful in the opportunity to do so.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 13, 2025 03:24 PM (NFX2v)
The guy before him was an eye doctor. Western Educated. Wanted to Westernize Syria. Dressed Western. Talked Western.
But he may or may not have dropped Tear Gas on a riot. You know ... the same stuff I had to sniff during Boot Camp.
And for that - Trump dropped missiles on him during the first go 'round. While everyone here cheered because "Trump". Oh - and CNN gave you film of all the people choking to death while others weren't bothered at all nursing them.
Its a real mystery wrapped in an enigma why nobody in the Middle East trust the United States. A real puzzle.
Posted by: Howdy at December 13, 2025 03:32 PM (ivXYS)
The guy before him was an eye doctor. Western Educated. Wanted to Westernize Syria. Dressed Western. Talked Western.
But he may or may not have dropped Tear Gas on a riot. You know ... the same stuff I had to sniff during Boot Camp.
And for that - Trump dropped missiles on him during the first go 'round. While everyone here cheered because "Trump". Oh - and CNN gave you film of all the people choking to death while others weren't bothered at all nursing them.
Its a real mystery wrapped in an enigma why nobody in the Middle East trust the United States. A real puzzle.
Posted by: Howdy at December 13, 2025 03:32 PM (ivXYS)
this was the main reason he was so weak and nothing could save him, including russia's intervention. it also made him a conduit for iran since he was in no position to refuse them.
his father massacared hundreds of thousands of islamists, but he couldn't do it because "international law" or something.
but i'm serious, there are millions of hardcore islamists in syria now, from all over the world but mainly syria itself. even if Julani reformed (fat chance) he would never be able to contain them.
the only way to contain them is to kill them all.
Posted by: juicer at December 13, 2025 05:29 PM (RDTzD)
Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 01:00 PM (3ek7K)
Either leave, or else turn the place into an explicit colony, and govern with an iron fist. Convert all the muzzies to Christianity at gunpoint, and if they refuse to convert, shoot them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Back after 9-11 that was a plausible course of action.
And would work because they Grok "convert or die".
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 13, 2025 06:39 PM (/lPRQ)
What is an "influencer" these days?
Tiny Moldova may be the second-poorest country in Europe (Britannica) but they have fast internet speeds, a wine industry, and a strong drink museum.
And "influencers", apparently. More on that below, along with some other examples of "influencers". Culture and politics have always involved influencing people. Why, today, do we think in terms of "influencers"?
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Influencer Studios International
Walter Kirn, commenting on Nick Fuentes:
A new report from @ncri_io shows that Nick Fuentes's sudden mainstream visibility reflects a coordinated illusion instead of a grassroots surge.
According to NCRI, Fuentes's rise was driven by synchronized amplification networks, anonymous booster accounts, foreign engagement farms, and a media ecosystem that mistook manufactured noise for genuine political momentum.
Details below:
🚨BREAKING: A new report from @ncri_io shows that Nick Fuentes's sudden mainstream visibility reflects a coordinated illusion instead of a grassroots surge.
According to NCRI, Fuentes's rise was driven by synchronized amplification networks, anonymous booster accounts, foreign… pic.twitter.com/eLCff8y1hG
Influencing Politics and Culture in Moldova
Interesting conversation centered on little Moldova, a country of fewer than two and a half million people (according to Britannica), blessed with good soils and rivers (one named after a drowned hunting dog). Agriculture and a lot of other things were messed up during the Soviet era.
My first instinct when I see a politically-motivated arrest in a country is to see if USAID has set up a "Rule of Law" program there to capture its judges and prosecutors, and so far my instinct has never been wrong https://t.co/ut24inPfv5pic.twitter.com/ZnjReysynO
Who are "influencers" mentioned in this conversation? Should we call them "influencers" or something else? I kind of hate that word.
I imagine that a little money does go a long way in Moldova.
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Was Lenin an "Influencer"?
Can we think of some better words? Why Lenin Won The Red Wheel
by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Reviewed by Gary Saul Morson
A newly translated volume in Solzhenitsyn's Red Wheel series illustrates how revolutionaries seized control of Russia.
April 1917, Book 1, the seventh of eight novels in Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s story of the Russian Revolution, entitled The Red Wheel, portrays three crucial weeks that show why Lenin, with only a handful of followers, triumphed over his rivals. As the novel opens, Tsar Nicholas II has abdicated, and a Provisional Government appointed by the Duma has assumed nominal power. Everything it does must be approved by the Executive Committee (EC) of the Petrograd Soviet (or Council), a group of self-appointed intellectual representatives of the lower classes who can summon intimidating mobs.
Meanwhile, the Russian army, still at war with Imperial Germany, is disintegrating, in part because the Soviet has issued orders eliminating all discipline. Notwithstanding the impossibility of doing so, the Provisional Government, to honor Russia’s alliance with France and Britain, has promised an offensive. Solzhenitsyn portrays the Provisional Government ministers as hopelessly impractical poseurs, who rely on stirring words and dramatic gestures. He quotes a Russian proverb: “A fine gait won’t help a lame chicken.”
Why is the Provisional Government so helpless? . . .
Well, there is not one simple reason, but:
Reasoning that free people don’t require force, the Provisional Government, believe it or not, abolished the police! It also released criminals on condition that they promise to behave, and so initiated a wave of murders and robberies. “Some ask: How do you govern the country?, You don’t even have any police,” Minister of Justice Aleksandr Kerensky paraphrases the obvious question. “But, comrades, we have no need of police, because the people are with us!”
With no means of enforcement, the Provisional Government had to implore people to pay their taxes. Nobody did. Solzhenitsyn quoted one appeal after another—soldiers, don’t desert! sailors, refrain from killing your officers! peasants, please do not seize land!—but the utter failure of rule by uplifting speeches and empty reports only leads to more speeches and more reports. “We have decided to take the most stringent measures,” one minister explains. “I shall appoint a committee of inquiry.”
When the patriotic general Lavr Kornilov at last offers to put his loyal soldiers at the government’s disposal, it reacts with horror. Even while a mob was besieging the unprotected ministers, one of them proudly declares: “No! Even if armed men were to find their way into this room, we should not apply military force to defend ourselves!” Another finds still finer words: “We’d rather sacrifice our own lives than spill a single drop of others’ blood!”
Most pathetic of all is the kindly Prime Minister, Prince Georgi Lvov, who attributes the prevailing chaos “to a single cause. The impossibility of meeting everyone personally, meeting their eyes with a kindly smile.” Using “the quietest of voices … and with one of his most bewitching smiles,” he asks: “Why the drama? Why make relations worse? … Everything will come right in the end.” When it becomes apparent that Lenin’s followers, who have already shot unarmed soldiers, plan to seize power by force, Lvov explains in “dulcet tones” to Minister of Defense Aleksandr Guchkov: “Where Lenin was concerned, the government should not precipitate events, for that might give rise to conflict.”
Anybody find anything in the short segments above that reminds you of anything recent? There's much more at the link that might make some people feel uncomfortable if they were sensible.
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Beyond Counter-Ideology
Gary Saul Morson
Dostoevsky understood that people who defined themselves by ideology were capable of a unique form of evil.
Do today's Marxist college professors like being called "influencers"?
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Ideological influences on America
A well-written essay by Michael Smith to consider this weekend. Read the whole thing at the link.
The Entitlement MachineDon't stop at the Fantasy Football AnalogyHow modern progressivism caters to the worst in human behavior by cultivating outrage, infantilization, and permanent reliance.
Republicans need to recognize that they will always start any election, contest or debate from behind the sticks. It will always be first and fifteen because Democrats have a built-in advantage in elections.
Their policies cater to the worst in human nature. They reward the short term, punish the prudent, and erode the cultural preconditions of a functioning republic: responsibility, restraint, and reciprocity. Policies that indulge negative traits may feel humane in the moment but generate long-term civic fragility—and while the consequences may not be immediate, they are unavoidable.
We can debate whether it is fair or foul to have a federal income tax—and one so steeply progressive that 47 percent of income-earning Americans carry no income-tax liability. But the consequences of such a system are no longer theoretical. When nearly half the population contributes nothing to the cost of federal activity, the incentives shift in ways economists have long understood. People behave differently when they bear no financial stake in the outcomes they support. This is moral hazard dressed up as compassionate governance. . . .
Progressive policy design increasingly caters to four deeply rooted but negative human tendencies: dependency, risk displacement, infantilization, and grievance incentives. These traits are not partisan inventions—they are part of human nature. The divide exists because one side has learned to weaponize them.
Consider the latest fights over health-care subsidies. During COVID, Democrats enacted temporarily enhanced Obamacare subsidies, sold as emergency measures. But once installed, they immediately triggered predictable behavioral dynamics. What critics call “government generosity,” the public experiences as an upgrade in lifestyle. When the pre-COVID baseline was about to be restored, the reaction was not gratitude for the windfall but outrage at its removal.
This is the cycle of hedonic adaptation—people normalize benefits almost instantly—and loss aversion, the principle that losses loom larger than equivalent gains. Withdraw something that was never permanent, and the emotional response is sharper than the pleasure felt when it arrived. These tendencies feed entitlement, the belief that a conditional benefit has become an irrevocable right. The envy that follows—resentment toward anyone perceived to have “more”—becomes political jet fuel.
Of course, during the period of subsidies, health care costs also creep up, making the loss of subsidies scary for lots of folks.
But subsidies are only the surface expression of a deeper architecture of dependency. When government benefits become the central organizing principle of economic life, personal agency contracts. Systems designed to help people end up trapping them, not through malice but through structure: welfare cliffs that punish earnings, housing programs that penalize marriage, college-aid formulas that reward borrowing rather than saving. A constituency stabilized by reliance reliably votes to preserve the system that sustains it.
Layered atop dependency is risk displacement. As the state assumes responsibility for ever more dimensions of life—health care, debt burdens, housing, childcare—individuals rationally outsource decision-making to government. . .
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:16 AM (Ia/+0)
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Oh noes, you might have got me interested back into the Russian Revolution
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:19 AM (Ia/+0)
4 Aren't we all influencers? We just don't get paid, lol.
Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 11:19 AM (3ek7K)
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>>>Who are "influencers" mentioned in this conversation? Should we call them "influencers" or something else?
Paid shills works for me.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 11:20 AM (Y1sOo)
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I wanted to say something in response to the periodic eruptions of anger revolving around the use of the word "Boomer" here on AoS. I know I can do nothing about actual trolls or people who simply do not want to mature, but if I can help some people, all the better.
First, it is certainly true that Baby Boomers get blamed for things that happened because of other generations. The G.I. Generation, far from being 'great', was credulous and disinterested in cherishing the amazing position it had been gifted by our victory in WW2. Many people in that generation simply wanted to get more out of Social Security than they paid in, as they approached retirement. Many of the worst Congress Critters were and are Silent Gen, like Nancy Pelosi. My generation (Millennials) and Zoomers have lots of lost people who fall into weird traps and trends. Boomers aren't furries or trannies or "Queers for Palestine". Based on this blog, Gen Xers are mostly alright but enjoy bitching and whining too much. Younger people should remember that their generations have not reversed the trends they inherited, and show a little more leniency for older posters on this blog. We all fall short.
Continued
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 11:22 AM (UdiE9)
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:22 AM (Ia/+0)
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However, there is a strong theme in the Bible that nations and generations are judged for their sins as individuals are. Prophets pray for the Lord to avert his anger at Israel as a nation, even though the prophet himself did not partake in the relevant sins. If Clarence Thomas posted here, I doubt he would sperg out if someone posted a complaint about black crime rates or single-parent families. The ladies here do not have conniption fits when someone (perhaps jokingly?) talks about repealing the 19th Amendment. They rightly note that they and many ladies they know are not AWFLs or karens, but they also admit the truth that if women voted the way men do, the Democrats would be a tiny minority party.
Continued
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 11:23 AM (UdiE9)
Got the sprinkler system winterized. Come spring time, I'll have to dig out the drain valve and replace it as the handle broke in half just as I made the last turn to open it. Now it's broken in the open position. Also need to dig out and replace a zone control valve as the pre-shutdown inspection exposed a cracked body that was leaking.
Now off to read K.T.'s content.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 13, 2025 11:23 AM (QVmho)
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Those of us who are younger can see the photos of what America looked like when Boomers were in school. If we're a bit older as I am (I just miss the cut-off for Gen X) we remember G.I. Generation members who were founts of wisdom in old age, even if that generation was not what some make it out to be. Where are the calm and wise Silent and Boomer crowd? No doubt they exist, but even in my neighborhood, people in their 70s and 80s have no wisdom and act rather childish far too often. THIS is I think the root of the instinctive aversive many younger people have for "Boomers". If the person isn't just a troll (and they exist), younger people who feel like everything has gone to shit resent the geezers clinging on to what they have and offering nothing of value in return. For most of human history the elderly were revered, because they had wisdom to impart. I know wisdom exists. I often don't read through comments, but CTRL+F for commenters who impart what I regard as wisdom (Whig is my favorite commenter to follow). Understand that not all Boomer hate is coming from pure malice, and act as a black or female poster would on this blog.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 11:24 AM (UdiE9)
The problem a lot of people have today, with "influencers," is that those who influence are no longer concentrated among the Oligarchy of Corporate Media.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:24 AM (WF5qu)
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We set the standard for "influencers". Who knew how ahead of the curve we were?
Posted by: Macedonian Content Farmer Alliance at December 13, 2025 11:25 AM (oftw2)
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And of course, a big part of what makes Nick Fuentes so influential today, is because the people being influenced by him have parents and teachers and other members of the "adult" class harumphing at him.
He's trolling you, and your kids love it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:25 AM (WF5qu)
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I have some experience with Moldavians. The law abiding ones used to fish for northern pike minnows (aka squawfish), as they had a bounty on them. Made pretty good money at it. We let them tie up on our dock. Really entertaining to introduce them to the state DNR folks, when they came to support us in trying to keep the dock.
The not lawabiding ones wanted to be gangsters. Had one go on a rampage, claiming that he owned our property. The guy with him noticed my gun and convinced his friend to leave. We mentioned this to the lawabiding guys, who sic'ed Mama on him. Never had any issue with them again. It was an interesting time and I hope the good guys are doing all right. I suspect they are.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 13, 2025 11:25 AM (+mUZM)
Dolores!!!
Posted by: muldoon at December 13, 2025 11:26 AM (/iMjX)
Helen Hunt?
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:27 AM (WF5qu)
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How modern progressivism caters to the worst in human behavior by cultivating outrage, infantilization, and permanent reliance.
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The first of the three isn't at all unique to them. You see outrage everywhere including here. While it's been common at all times, I do think it's rising, to late 60s levels.
I have no cure, at least, no secular one.
Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 11:27 AM (s0JqF)
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> What is an "influencer" these days?
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Operative question:
"Who pays the "influencers" these days?"
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:28 AM (NwnyJ)
20According to NCRI, Fuentes's rise was driven by synchronized amplification networks, anonymous booster accounts, foreign engagement farms, and a media ecosystem that mistook manufactured noise for genuine political momentum.
One can test this theorem in person.
If you have 20 and 30-something males in your daily life, be it work, family or church, ask them who Nick Fuentes is. Then ask them who Joe Gruters is.
I think you'll find Nick's name recognition is astronomically higher, and that it isn't all bot farms.
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 11:29 AM (2NGiN)
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The Apostle Paul wrote some letters. He has influenced the lives of billions and still does so today.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 13, 2025 11:29 AM (2Ez/1)
22 Multiple US service members injured in Syria ambush attack.
FoxNews
Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 11:29 AM (3ek7K)
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So we just instinctively believe and not question what NCRI, a very left wing group, tells us? Guess who is heavily involved with this non profit? Lynne Cheney, lol.
This is the same group that freaked out about Covid “misinformation” and was all in on shutting up anyone who questioned the narrative. These are the people who see wHiTe sUpReMacY around every corner. It’s run out of NYU and Princeton and was founded in part by a RINO Denver Riggleman who, like Cheney was all in on the J6 “insurrection” bullshit.
But OK they’re totally trustworthy guyz!!
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:29 AM (9iyS+)
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"Who pays the "influencers" these days?"
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:28 AM (NwnyJ)
Your children do.
Well, you do, if you buy your kids' cell phones.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:29 AM (WF5qu)
I met the real "Mulva" at a party in Duluth, Georgia 20 or so years ago. Seemed like a nice lady.
Posted by: Brush With Greatness at December 13, 2025 11:30 AM (oftw2)
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Thx K.T.
Influencers began as young women "influencing" people to buy products. Now it's morphed into podcasters like Fuentes , Carlson and Owens. I preferred vacuous hot chicks myself
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 11:30 AM (D+mpw)
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Dave Horowitz ‘splains a lot of the revolutionary marxist ideas and theory in his book “Radical Son”; some of it I was vaguely familiar with, but a fair amount was not. They definitely get way off into the weeds in lots of areas.
What really surprised me is how so much of it has clearly been mainstreamed and incorporated into the every day atrocities perpetrated on Americans today, the rhetoric and invective, public policy, the Narrative particularly academia and elementary public schools and of course the “news” was captured by the whack jobs long ago.
This country needs an Industrial Enema, stat
Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 11:30 AM (eFKVH)
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Influencers began as young women "influencing" people to buy products. Now it's morphed into podcasters like Fuentes , Carlson and Owens. I preferred vacuous hot chicks myself
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 11:30 AM (D+mpw)
Ever heard of the Federalist Papers?
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:32 AM (WF5qu)
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What the hell are US military forces doing in Syria? What is the “compelling national interest” again?
I must have missed the prime time national address from the oval office.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 11:33 AM (eFKVH)
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This country needs an Industrial Enema, stat
Posted by: Common Tater
Just say when!
Posted by: Follow The Fleet at December 13, 2025 11:34 AM (oftw2)
Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 11:35 AM (3ek7K)
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Macedonian Content Farmer Alliance at December 13, 2025 11:25 AM
I have a FB friend who post emotional content from a site that proudly proclaims upfront that they are in "North Macedonia". Often exaggerations of content from other sites. For example, not only does a mother abandon her five year old twin daughters for the bright lights before returning for them when they are eighteen, she abandons them when they are blind newborns and their dad teaches them to sew award-winning costumes in their "own little world".
Posted by: KT at December 13, 2025 11:35 AM (7vIsy)
Posted by: Diogenes at December 13, 2025 11:35 AM (2WIwB)
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Young ladies start as Influencers then move to Fans Only and lose their Influence
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:36 AM (Ia/+0)
36
Who pays the "influencers" these days?"
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:28 AM (NwnyJ)
Companies who buy ads to be placed on their videos. It’s no different than how tv works. They just cut out a lot of the middlemen.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:36 AM (9iyS+)
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@29 I'm sure John Jay looked great in a bikini but I still prefer hot chicks
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 11:36 AM (D+mpw)
38
Nothing is real. It’s all fake and ghey in the digital world. AI is shaitan prepping the analog world for antichrist.
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 11:37 AM (fHsz8)
39A newly translated volume in Solzhenitsyn's Red Wheel series illustrates how revolutionaries seized control of Russia.
The amazing thing about Saint Petersburg is that the historic parts of the city are almost completely unchanged, so you can walk around and see all the places where the key events in the Russian Revolution took place.
Sergey Larenkov came up with a technique (since copied by others) of using a World War II picture taken in Leningrad, taking a picture of modern-day Saint Petersburg from the same location, and combining the two.
The results are often quite moving.
Posted by: Blackadder! at December 13, 2025 11:37 AM (xTIDn)
Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 11:38 AM (3ek7K)
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Companies who buy ads to be placed on their videos. It’s no different than how tv works. They just cut out a lot of the middlemen.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
Totally not fair!
Posted by: Man Formerly In The Middle at December 13, 2025 11:38 AM (oftw2)
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What the hell are US military forces doing in Syria? What is the “compelling national interest” again?
I must have missed the prime time national address from the oval office.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 11:33 AM (eFKVH)
Where don't we have troops?
But then I have to laugh at people getting all worked up about podcasters who talk to Nick Fuentes, when we had the Al Qaeda guy, who used to behead Americans, as a guest in the White House.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:38 AM (WF5qu)
43
Outfits like NCRI are also convinced that Russia stole the 2016 election with Facebook posts.
Lol
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:39 AM (9iyS+)
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42 What the hell are US military forces doing in Syria? What is the “compelling national interest” again?
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Something about fighting them there not here. Or wait no it’s to do contain communism. Wait no it’s to spread freedom and democracy. Yeah that’s the one.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:40 AM (9iyS+)
45A newly translated volume in Solzhenitsyn's Red Wheel series illustrates how revolutionaries seized control of Russia.
It's amazing that Solzhenitsyn has been dead for seventeen years, and there are still major works of his that have not been translated into English.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 13, 2025 11:40 AM (xTIDn)
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37 @29 I'm sure John Jay looked great in a bikini but I still prefer hot chicks
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 11:36 AM (D+mpw)
Me too, but the point being, influencers are not a new thing.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:40 AM (WF5qu)
47Anybody find anything in the short segments above that reminds you of anything recent? There's much more at the link that might make some people feel uncomfortable if they were sensible.
1) Europe
2) GOPe
Posted by: Archimedes at December 13, 2025 11:41 AM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Vacuous hot chicks at December 13, 2025 11:41 AM (2Ez/1)
49 But then I have to laugh at people getting all worked up about podcasters who talk to Nick Fuentes, when we had the Al Qaeda guy, who used to behead Americans, as a guest in the White House.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:38 AM (WF5qu)
Ironically, had the US not poked its nose in every country’s business Nick Fuentes would not be a thing.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:42 AM (9iyS+)
Posted by: Ok, I'll ask at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (2Ez/1)
51
>> Who pays the "influencers" these days?"
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:28 AM (NwnyJ)
Companies who buy ads to be placed on their videos. It’s no different than how tv works. They just cut out a lot of the middlemen.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:36 AM (9iyS+)
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In the case of Tucker and his ilk, it's not companies, it's countries like Qatar. Sure, he gets money from endorsing certain products, but the bulk of his monies comes from Qatar.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (NwnyJ)
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I do remember when Hardees (Carl's Jr) came out with an ad, featuring a chick eating one of their big fat cheeseburgers.
Lots of people were harumphing at that, as it was an obvious attempt by them to poke fun at the idea of hot chicks influencing people to buy stuff.
My problem with it though, is I didn't believe for a second that chick ever ate a big fat Hardees cheeseburger before in her life.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (WF5qu)
53
Only new thing about influencer is the name influencer. They’re just famous people who get paid to say or write things. It’s been happening since forever.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:44 AM (9iyS+)
54Where are the calm and wise Silent and Boomer crowd? No doubt they exist, but even in my neighborhood, people in their 70s and 80s have no wisdom and act rather childish far too often. THIS is I think the root of the instinctive aversive many younger people have for "Boomers".
It is important to remember that the media amplifies the voices of those with whom they agree. Thus, you can turn on the "news" and see lots of desiccated boomers "protesting" something which, to the average person, makes no sense. Just as during Vietnam, these people are actually a much smaller part of the Boomer cohort than they might seem.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 13, 2025 11:44 AM (Riz8t)
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What's an NCRI?
Posted by: Ok, I'll ask at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (2Ez/1)
It’s in this post. The group that says Nick Fuentes is all astroturf.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:44 AM (9iyS+)
56
What's an NCRI?
Posted by: Ok, I'll ask at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (2Ez/1)
Nambla Communists of Rhode Island?
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:44 AM (WF5qu)
57
"Sure, he gets money from endorsing certain products, but..."
Hey. We're sitting right here.
Posted by: Relief Factor, Goldline and Food Insurance at December 13, 2025 11:46 AM (2Ez/1)
Hmm. There was a time when payola was a bad thing...
Guess that's over.
Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 11:47 AM (XuXeR)
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In the case of Tucker and his ilk, it's not companies, it's countries like Qatar. Sure, he gets money from endorsing certain products, but the bulk of his monies comes from Qatar.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (NwnyJ)
I didn't think anyone really believed that. I thought it was just a dig at him, because he doesn't support wars in the Middle East.
He did a post the other day, where he was talking about how lovely Qatar is. Which, if you need it explained, was his way of giving the middle finger to all you people who claim he's a Tool of Qatar.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:48 AM (WF5qu)
60
Moldova has a 2 year “digital nomad” visa. Anyone who has a job they can work remotely can live there for 2 years. For us Yanks, there’s not much benefit other than the experience. But for the rest of the world they can live there essentially tax free. The US is one of the few countries that taxes income earned by its citizens even when they live abroad.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:48 AM (9iyS+)
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I love how anyone who has a different opinion than “the narrative” has to be paid by some nefarious groups. Here’s a crazy idea. Maybe Tucker makes money because what he says is popular with a lot of people? Nah that’s crazy talk. Has to be Qatar money .
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:50 AM (9iyS+)
Posted by: Ok, I'll ask at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (2Ez/1)
It's the same company that claims Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens are also artificially inflated by foreign bot farms.
It's interesting, in itself, that these are the three individuals they chose to focus their study on.
Almost as if it was meant for public consumption to, ironically enough, influence people's perception of the topics that they are discussing.
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 11:50 AM (2NGiN)
64Maybe Tucker makes money because what he says is popular with a lot of people? Nah that’s crazy talk. Has to be Qatar money.
Yeah, that's why Tucker is buying a house in Qatar - because he likes the climate.
Qatar spends billions in the United States on a highly successful influence campaign.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 13, 2025 11:52 AM (xTIDn)
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It's the same company that claims Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens are also artificially inflated by foreign bot farms.
It's interesting, in itself, that these are the three individuals they chose to focus their study on.
Almost as if it was meant for public consumption to, ironically enough, influence people's perception of the topics that they are discussing.
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 11:50 AM (2NGiN)
I'm not going to guess who "owns" this outfit called NCRI, which I never heard of before, but if someone wants to look into it, I bet it won't come as any surprise who's actually behind it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:52 AM (WF5qu)
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NCRI obviously never heard of the Steisand effect. Neither have any of the boomers pissing their pants about him.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:53 AM (9iyS+)
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> What's an NCRI?
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From their X account:
Network Contagion Research Institute
@ncri_io
NCRI is a neutral and independent organization whose mission is to identify and forecast cyber-social threats and report on them in a timely fashion.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:53 AM (NwnyJ)
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I'm not going to guess who "owns" this outfit called NCRI, which I never heard of before, but if someone wants to look into it, I bet it won't come as any surprise who's actually behind it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:52 AM (WF5qu)
I will say, I bet it's not Moldova.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:53 AM (WF5qu)
69
Oh great. The generation war has started. See y'all later. I'm out.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 13, 2025 11:53 AM (g8Ew8)
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I'm not going to guess who "owns" this outfit called NCRI, which I never heard of before, but if someone wants to look into it, I bet it won't come as any surprise who's actually behind it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:52 AM (WF5qu)
See my post 23.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:54 AM (9iyS+)
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> Qatar spends billions in the United States on a highly successful influence campaign.
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They gifted the US President a fucking airplane.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:54 AM (NwnyJ)
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A quarter of Moldova has declared itself independent, the so called TransDneister Republic. It has a slight Russian plurality in population . If the Ukraine - Russian war continues and the Russians head for Odessa it's believed that they will try and link up. Who'll be the influencers then?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 11:55 AM (D+mpw)
@ncri_io
NCRI is a neutral and independent organization whose mission is to identify and forecast cyber-social threats and report on them in a timely fashion.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:53 AM (NwnyJ)
Sounds EXACTLY like the Biden Admin's attempt to set up a government agency to weed out misinformation and disinformation.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:55 AM (WF5qu)
74
Oh great. The generation war has started. See y'all later. I'm out."
Yeah, no boobs, music, movies... just "I'm right, no.... I'm right"
Tiresome.
Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 11:55 AM (XuXeR)
75
The movie Red (with Bruce Willis) has a humorous reference to Moldova at the end… IIRC the sequel Red 2 has it’s opening scene in Moldova, with bombs raining down on our protagonists… that’s all I know about Moldova
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 13, 2025 11:55 AM (xT8gx)
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NCRI was started in part by a “Republican” who left the party because it wasn’t pro-gay enough. Lynne Cheney is involved with it. It’s run out of Princeton. It focuses on exposing “misinformation” like oh I dunno anti-vax stuff.
But ok let’s believe what they say. lol.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:56 AM (9iyS+)
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See my post 23.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:54 AM (9iyS+)
Lynn Cheney, eh?
Well yeah, she would have been on the list.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:57 AM (WF5qu)
Posted by: It's like I don't even know you people anymore at December 13, 2025 11:58 AM (2Ez/1)
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See my post 23.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:54 AM (9iyS+)
Lynn Cheney, eh?
Well yeah, she would have been on the list.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:57 AM (WF5qu)
Oh, Lynne, not Liz.
Same rotten fruit from the same rotten tree.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:58 AM (WF5qu)
80
Interesting that the AoS's two main contrarian schticks show up in the same thread at the same time.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 11:58 AM (Y1sOo)
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It’s honesty rather sad that the right which is always skeptical about any “non profit” (as it is should be) jumped on this Nick Fuentes NCRI thing without any skepticism.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:59 AM (9iyS+)
82"I have been criticized as being a tool of Qatar, and I just want to say – which you already know – which is I have never taken anything from your country and don’t plan to,” Carlson told the PM.
"I am, however, tomorrow buying a place in Qatar. I like the city, I think it’s beautiful, but also to make a statement that I’m an American and a free man and I’ll be wherever I want to be. I have not taken any money from Qatar, but I have now given money to Qatar.”
He's mocking your Qatar, Qatar, Qatar! narrative.
After all, it's not as if they gave him a luxury jet.
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 11:59 AM (2NGiN)
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Time to go sit on the main page and wait for a new thread.
Posted by: Otto Q. Cumber at December 13, 2025 11:59 AM (pcnhy)
Those "eastern European" areas always seemed to be quite tribal, with family/ tribe branches reaching back and forth across the "borders"... supporting these artificial nation states inevitably leads to further conflict...
Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:00 PM (XuXeR)
Yes Liz Cheney is involved with ncri. You guys remember her right? Haha. Yes that’s who wrote this Nick Fuentes report. The group who has Liz Cheney working for them.
Ok really trustworthy source right?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:01 PM (9iyS+)
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Time to go sit on the main page and wait for a new thread"
Yikes. But these people are of incredible influence. Or something.
Or not.
Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:03 PM (XuXeR)
Yes Liz Cheney is involved with ncri. You guys remember her right? Haha. Yes that’s who wrote this Nick Fuentes report. The group who has Liz Cheney working for them.
Ok really trustworthy source right?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:01 PM (9iyS+)
Is Lynne the gay one? I don't remember. Might be the old coot's wife.
Regardless. The Cheney family is completely irrelevant these days. And good riddance.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 12:03 PM (WF5qu)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:04 PM (9iyS+)
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. The Cheney family is completely irrelevant these days. And good riddance."
They followed the Bush family lead...
Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:05 PM (XuXeR)
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Follow the thread a X . There are several people who look at the financing of NCRI and it's an interesting mix. That doesn't mean that NCRI is wrong or that Fuentes isn't garbage , but "influencers" on top of influencers can be tricky
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 12:05 PM (D+mpw)
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Would not shock me if a few tens of millions in USAid money was funneled to ncri as well. If the Cheneys are involved you know there is govt money flowing to it somehow.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:06 PM (9iyS+)
93Oh great. The generation war has started. See y'all later. I'm out."
Yeah, no boobs, music, movies... just "I'm right, no.... I'm right"
Tiresome.
Posted by: man
*sotto voce*
no wait, come back...
Posted by: Archimedes at December 13, 2025 12:06 PM (Riz8t)
94I'm not going to guess who "owns" this outfit called NCRI, which I never heard of before, but if someone wants to look into it, I bet it won't come as any surprise who's actually behind it.
I will say, I bet it's not Moldova.
The NCRI was founded in 2018 as a nonprofit organization by psychologist and neuroscientist Joel Finkelstein.
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 12:07 PM (2NGiN)
95
*sotto voce*
no wait, come back...
Posted by: Archimedes at December 13, 2025 12:06 PM (Riz8t)
Where ya goin'? I was going to make espresso!
Posted by: Blind guy at December 13, 2025 12:09 PM (5xuJ/)
Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:09 PM (XuXeR)
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Here is the dog Dee of the “neutral” ncri lol. So so neutral guys.
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starts in 2016 at Princeton University, where Finkelstein was pursuing a doctorate in neuroscience psychology. The son of a rabbi, he grew up in Tyler, Texas and was seeking a contemplative, respected career as a university professor immersed in the theoretical research of the human mind.
Then the world intervened.
Finkelstein started noticing that a growing number of his friends, from both ends of the political spectrum, “were going crazy,” as he put it. “Intelligent, reasonable people who I respected … were suddenly embracing hateful identity politics. They were becoming really exclusionary.”
It was not an isolated fluke, he thought, it was happening at a time when the sociopolitical climate in America and beyond was in dramatic upheaval. “I started thinking about it: Trump had just won the presidency. Brexit had just passed. Where did that come from?”
There was one common thread: “I had this hunch that social media had something to do with it,” he said.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:09 PM (9iyS+)
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Follow the thread a X . There are several people who look at the financing of NCRI and it's an interesting mix. That doesn't mean that NCRI is wrong or that Fuentes isn't garbage , but "influencers" on top of influencers can be tricky
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 12:05 PM (D+mpw)
I was watching a vid the other day, didn't get too far into it, but the topic was that question: How did Nick F become Nick F?
And the gist of what I was seeing was that yes, he's a construct of some kind, propped up in some way by whomever. I sorta lost interest, so I guess I missed out on who or what it was that created Nick Fuentes, but the one thing I did see was how he did about a 180 turn from being an ardent MAGA Trump supporter, to becoming the Internet Troll he is today.
The irony though, as far as I'm concerned, is how so many enemies of the so-called right seem to get ALL this attention from the right, which just makes them bigger.
For example see: Crockett, Jasmine; Cortez, Sandy; and so on and so forth.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 12:10 PM (WF5qu)
Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:11 PM (XuXeR)
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he grew up in Tyler, Texas and was seeking a contemplative, respected career as a university professor immersed in the theoretical research of the human mind."
Dude should've started buc-ee's instead.
Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:12 PM (XuXeR)
101
Finkelstein and his friends basically saw Trump won and Brexit passed. And they freaked out so they started a “non profit” research group on “online hate” to make sure radical ideas like that never happen again.
Real neutral stuff right? In no way biased.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:12 PM (9iyS+)
102He did a post the other day, where he was talking about how lovely Qatar is. Which, if you need it explained, was his way of giving the middle finger to all you people who claim he's a Tool of Qatar.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:48 AM (WF5qu) No! He Is ClEaRlY aN AnTiSeMiTe WhO oNlY lOvEs PuTiN aNd DiRtY aRaBs
--NeoConBoomerInc
I recently read a quip that there are very few actual thinkers who are influential in our culture, and they act to lead their own gangs of influencers to try to get enough air to sway opinion and overawe competition. Most of the noise we hear is tribalism, repeating and amplifying scripts that others have created for them.
There are different factions in the US government, and Tucker is one area, Fuentes is another and Levin is a third.
Tucker's kid is working for JD Vance, and Levin's kid is working for DeSantis IIRC.
Tucker is not playing by the accepted rules, but find me where he is not somewhere within the policy guidelines set out by Trump.
This makes me wonder a bit about DeSantis, though.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:12 PM (rbvCR)
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OT- I thought that this question was handled pretty well from the Bible question website: "Was Jesus a refugee?"
https://tinyurl.com/4d8cut6d
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 12:13 PM (PFs9e)
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All this political nonsense forced me to cut into my panettone.
I'm not sorry.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 13, 2025 12:13 PM (cYBz/)
Posted by: Gene Wilder at December 13, 2025 12:14 PM (2Ez/1)
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and they act to lead their own gangs of influencers to try to get enough air to sway opinion and overawe competition. Most of the noise we hear is tribalism, repeating and amplifying scripts that others have created for them."
You just described media/ journalism... save for the late 20th century when they claimed neutrality... but weren't
Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:14 PM (XuXeR)
107
Solzhenitsyn's writing confirms something I've wondered about - as horrible is it was, Russia really did deserve a Stalin. He was the natural consequence of the beliefs of their elites.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:14 PM (uWKK8)
108
An nfluncer is the new word for "community organizer" of the 90s, a grifting person with no skills and no real job.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2025 12:14 PM (0N4FZ)
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The NCRI was founded in 2018 as a nonprofit organization by psychologist and neuroscientist Joel Finkelstein.
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 12:07 PM (2NGiN)
Let's look him up...
"Joel Finkelstein is a psychologist and neuroscientist known for his work in combating hate speech and extremism online."
Okie dokie then.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 12:15 PM (JHYx8)
Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:15 PM (XuXeR)
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Last time I checked, Boomers killed more commies than any other generation.
Which is why they get all the hate.
Posted by: Zombie Leonid Brezhnev, Sexy Eyebrows And All at December 13, 2025 12:15 PM (R/m4+)
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What knockers!!
Posted by: Gene Wilder at December 13, 2025 12:14 PM (2Ez/1)
Sankyou, doctor!
Posted by: Terri Garr at December 13, 2025 12:16 PM (5xuJ/)
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Anyone who thinks NF just happened one day is missing the story. He’s been around for 10 years. He didn’t just come out of nowhere. He’s also been banned by every mainstream platform until X allowed him back in. YouTube still has a ban on him. He was also debanked and put on the no fly list. Ya think he might be a little spicy over that?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:16 PM (9iyS+)
Posted by: Another punchline at December 13, 2025 12:16 PM (2Ez/1)
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But the RC church in MA still has the anti ICE display up even after the Bishop told the rector to remove it. National Catholic register site:
https://tinyurl.com/4xm27mbx
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 12:16 PM (PFs9e)
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You know, Burt, It's Go Time and Doubting Thomas would look less like third worlders getting paid by the post if they were actually responding to anyone. Instead it's just one post after another saying the same thing over and over. We get it. You don't like the source of the purported information on Fuentes. Shut up already.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:17 PM (UdiE9)
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An nfluncer is the new word for "community organizer" of the 90s, a grifting person with no skills and no real job.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2025 12:14 PM
*influencer*.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2025 12:17 PM (0N4FZ)
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10 3/3
...
Understand that not all Boomer hate is coming from pure malice, and act as a black or female poster would on this blog.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13,
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That is mostly OK, but my problem, as a Boomer who has often been denounced as "a traitor to my generation" is simply inaccuracy. The usual charges against the Boomers are simply things we were never responsible for. Unless you mean swallowing uncritically what our elders told us. THAT is a true charge.
The claim that the Boomers were "following a different drummer", or too nonconformist is 180 degrees from reality. Most were just sheep. And egotistic, greedy sheep. I figured this out fairly early, and in college took to wearing a coat and tie to class. It's fun being lectured for conformity while being the only one in the room dressed like that.
But really it is true that the bad ideas attributed to the Baby Boom were thought up by our elders. We just swallowed them whole.
Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 12:17 PM (s0JqF)
119
NCRI is the online version of SPLC.
Both are far left organizations that target anyone who questions left wing orthodoxy.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:17 PM (9iyS+)
120
You know, Burt, It's Go Time and Doubting Thomas would look less like third worlders getting paid by the post if they were actually responding to anyone. Instead it's just one post after another saying the same thing over and over. We get it. You don't like the source of the purported information on Fuentes. Shut up already.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:17 PM (UdiE9)
Ok Boomer.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (9iyS+)
121
103 OT- I thought that this question was handled pretty well from the Bible question website: "Was Jesus a refugee?"
https://tinyurl.com/4d8cut6d
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 12:13 PM (PFs9e)
Good catch, Fenelon!
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (fHsz8)
122
Got into a little tuff with a Russian on miniature forum. Brought up Gulag Archipelago and he swears Solzhenitsyn was a KGB stooge and his writing is fake.
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (Ia/+0)
123
No. Lord and tailor.
Posted by: Another punchline "
"Tiffany? I'm glad for your sake it wasn't Van Cleef and Arpel"
Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (XuXeR)
124
Tucker is not playing by the accepted rules, but find me where he is not somewhere within the policy guidelines set out by Trump.
This makes me wonder a bit about DeSantis, though.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:12 PM (rbvCR)
Tucker saying, as he repeated again just this last week, that any Christian who supports Israel and who thinks of themselves as a zionist is Evil, is NOT within the guidelines of anything Trump has ever said or supported.
Tucker saying that Maduro deserves our support is not within the guidelines either, and neither is Tucker saying that it is illegal for the US to be taking out poor innocent fishermen on the high speed drug boats.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (uWKK8)
125116 You know, Burt, It's Go Time and Doubting Thomas would look less like third worlders getting paid by the post if they were actually responding to anyone. Instead it's just one post after another saying the same thing over and over. We get it. You don't like the source of the purported information on Fuentes. Shut up already.
Damn, busted.
I hope I don't get fired by my Qatari bot farm for blowing my cover.
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 12:19 PM (2NGiN)
126
Ok Boomer.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (9iyS+)
Ok stoner.
Posted by: Old Boomer at December 13, 2025 12:20 PM (5xuJ/)
127
"Joel Finkelstein is a psychologist and neuroscientist known for his work in combating hate speech and extremism online."
Okie dokie then.
Posted by: BurtTC
Totally non-biased, neutral, non-partisan guy huh? 🤣
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:20 PM (9iyS+)
128
He also brought up Katyn murders were caused by the German Nazis so that was the end of that discussion
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 12:20 PM (Ia/+0)
129
13 And of course, a big part of what makes Nick Fuentes so influential today, is because the people being influenced by him have parents and teachers and other members of the "adult" class harumphing at him.
He's trolling you, and your kids love it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:25 AM (WF5qu)
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Absolutely. I remember talking to friends in the 70s about this. We realized that, when we got old, youngsters would start praising Nazis and the Klan, because when you're young, "Let's shock Grandma" is the Prime Directive.
The question is when does it become serious. One thing is already serious: Who dares shock the Imam?
Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 12:20 PM (s0JqF)
130
I hope I don't get fired by my Qatari bot farm for blowing my cover.
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 12:19 PM (2NGiN)
Hey I have a question about my paycheck. Do you know who I should call? Is it Ahmed in HR or Mohammed in Operations?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:21 PM (9iyS+)
Got you, you SOB. I posted on this very topic earlier in this thread (quite extensively). If you actually read comments like a normal person on this blog, you'd know that I am not a Boomer and don't even think like one.
What shit hole country do you post from? You haven't mentioned sex, so I'm leaning against India. You're a bit too grammatical for Nigeria. Probably a Gulf State then.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:22 PM (UdiE9)
135
I think I am just going to post this every time someone starts talking about boomer hate
Boomers got told the world was screwed but they were going to be ok
GenX got told the world was doomed and they were screwed
Millennials got told they were screwed
GenZ got told that people are being brought in specifically to screw them
Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:23 PM (rbvCR)
Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:24 PM (XuXeR)
137
So be it. I get it. Change is hard. I would gently request people here keep an open mind, and when you see an opinion you don't like, hurl an insult or two if you want, but recognize that this is not a monolithic echo chamber. The AoSHQ is a special place, in large part because people do NOT have to agree with each other.
Posted by: BurtTC
Sounds like something a Nigerian bot would say. 😀
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:24 PM (9iyS+)
138
35 Young ladies start as Influencers then move to Fans Only and lose their Influence
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:36 AM (Ia/+0)
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Does that mean "influence" = "virtue"?
Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 12:24 PM (s0JqF)
139Hey I have a question about my paycheck. Do you know who I should call? Is it Ahmed in HR or Mohammed in Operations?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:21 PM (9iyS+)
I'd call Ahmed, but don't forget the memo they sent out last week.
They are still withholding our jizya the rest of this year. The new No Tax on Dhimmis rule doesn't take effect until January 1.
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 12:25 PM (2NGiN)
140
I don't think Trump likes foreign wars. Nothing he has said or done indicates that he likes anything that kills people.
Unlike Trump, though, Tucker doesn't have responsibility for any promise made or have the backlash if he decides to make a hard stop
Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:25 PM (rbvCR)
141
in large part because people do NOT have to agree with each other."
Nuh huh. Die Hard IS a Christmas movie.
Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:26 PM (XuXeR)
Fen ask your son to go to indeed and search for "Rutgers Laboratory Research Assistant".
There are also postings for other research assistant positions at Rutgers
Posted by: pawn at December 13, 2025 12:26 PM (EMg+d)
143
139 Does that mean "influence" = "virtue"?
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No, but to have influence you have to at least fake virtue. Having your nudes and/or sexual activity all over the net makes it impossible for people to take you seriously.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:26 PM (UdiE9)
144
Boomer is a mentality not necessarily an age. It’s the mentality of I got mine and fuck you, you’re on your own. And also a lack of curiosity about anything outside their immediate circle of influence as well as the inability to accept new information that goes against their perceived views.
See for example ncri. All the evidence presented that shows it’s a far left wing group, but it doesn’t matter. NF is a bad guy therefore if ncri says he’s a bad guy and I think he’s a bad guy then ncri must be correct.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:27 PM (9iyS+)
145
126 Ok Boomer.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (9iyS+)
Ok stoner.
Posted by: Old Boomer at December 13, 2025 12:20 PM (5xuJ/)
This is a textbook example of ‘divide and conquer’.
Boomer here with friends among every generation since 1949. Be better, people. America, civilization, and our lives are at stake here.
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 12:27 PM (fHsz8)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 12:28 PM (PFs9e)
147
sexual activity all over the net makes it impossible for people to take you seriously."
Hmm. So, people should take me very, very seriously then...
Or not.
Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:29 PM (XuXeR)
148
None of Trump's supporters support "foreign wars". That's one of the main distinctions between us and the existing Deep State, which wanted Endless War Forever around the world. Where does Trump have troops actually risking casualties today?
But there are still international situations that are hugely corrosive to the world, and as the leading power in the world either the US addresses it or it continues to fester until it comes to our borders. Venezuela is a blight on the hemisphere that should have been taken care of 2 decades ago, but no one ever tried. Trump is not risking any soldiers, and any who understand what he's doing will understand why Maduro's government will soon fall, solving a host of bad situations simultaneously. Trump is not sending troops to war in Ukraine, and he is not sending them to war in the middle east. He has a far more rational and supportable policy than anything the US has done since Reagan was President.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:29 PM (uWKK8)
149
America, civilization, and our lives are at stake here."
Careful, you'll give our beloved host a swelled head...
Oh. Thought you meant "here", as in... here.
Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:30 PM (XuXeR)
150
I've been commenting here more than 20 years. Go back and look for my nic.
Yours is a nic I've never seen before.
Who's paying you, asshole.
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I've posted on the same threads as you for quite some time. And the length of time you posted here isn't evidence of anything. No one is claiming that Tucker got paid by Qatar for his entire career. It is interesting that you and the other contrarians disappear for lots of threads and then all show up en masse to spam on this thread on a Saturday.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:31 PM (UdiE9)
151
You know, I believe KT might have started a tiff...
Hope it doesn't become a donnybrook...
Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:33 PM (qTiDB)
152Tucker saying that Maduro deserves our support is not within the guidelines either, and neither is Tucker saying that it is illegal for the US to be taking out poor innocent fishermen on the high speed drug boats.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (uWKK
and Levin calling for the death of all arabs is within the guidelines, or silencing of his competition is?
Be very careful that you don't start down the path of "everyone who disagrees with me is a Nazi" because that is copyrighted by the Left, and you will have to pay them royalties.
And you will be proving that ass James Lindsay with his "woke right" jackassery to be right.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:33 PM (rbvCR)
153
There are times when foreign intervention is needed.
Syria though? What the actual fuck. There is ZERO justification for American troops to be there. Less than zero in fact.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:33 PM (9iyS+)
Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:34 PM (XuXeR)
155
I changed my linked in profile picture of me to one taken when I had an old fashioned mustache and muttonchops, posing with a llama who wore it much better than I did. I also changed my job description to "Digital content creator, Influencer and self-employed consultant, Consultant." I get even more messages telling me I'd be perfect as a board member of some company in India or the Ukraine ....
Posted by: JML at December 13, 2025 12:37 PM (ZAkHP)
156
Two things blew up Nick’s popularity this year. Trump not releasing the Epstein files initially and bombing Iran. Those two things which happened in close proximity to each other made a lot of young Trump supporters say fuck it I’m out. And NF was the conduit for their anger.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:37 PM (9iyS+)
157
interesting that you and the other contrarians disappear for lots of threads and then all show up en masse to spam on this thread on a Saturday.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:31 PM (UdiE9)
Interesting that you take the time to track who posts what and when. Get a life my dude.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:38 PM (9iyS+)
What's "interesting" to you is of no concern to anyone, including your mother.
Whose nudes are all over the internet.
And I banged her, champ.
Deal with it.
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Speaking of Boomerish behavior . . .
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:38 PM (UdiE9)
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So, I guess my question about the Fuentes/NCRI issue is this; is the analysis NCRI did reflective of how Fuentes became popular all of a sudden?
I get that he's been around. I first heard of him within the last couple months. And I'm no slouch to this sort of stuff.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 12:38 PM (NwnyJ)
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Syria though? What the actual fuck. There is ZERO justification for American troops to be there. Less than zero in fact.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:33 PM (9iyS+)
Fact check - America has had troops in Syria since 2014, supposedly to keep down ISIS but mainly to protect Chevron's oil concessions. (no one ever likes to talk about that part) In June of this year, Trump announced that his administration is going to cut the Syrian presence down from 8 US forward bases to just 1.
Yes, it should be zero but on this Trump is still better than any other President since Reagan.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:39 PM (uWKK8)
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>>It is interesting that you and the other contrarians disappear for lots of threads and then all show up en masse to spam on this thread on a Saturday.
You noticed that too, eh? So did I. In fact, see my #80.
Happens during the week, too. Suddenly, "both" of them show up at once and soon start blowing each other, just as they have in this thread.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 12:39 PM (Y1sOo)
162
There are two kinds of people in the world; charming and tedious.
Posted by: Oscar Wilde at December 13, 2025 12:39 PM (W7XSX)
163There are two kinds of people in the world; charming and tedious.
Posted by: Oscar Wilde at December 13, 2025 12:39 PM (W7XSX)
Charming people seem to care about what you are interested in; tedious people care about what they are interested in.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:41 PM (rbvCR)
164
Well, this thread has gone South pretty quickly. Uggh
Have a better day everyone.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 12:41 PM (7RYym)
165
So, tell me about your day, did you do anything interesting?
Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:42 PM (rbvCR)
166
166 There are two kinds of people in the world; charming and tedious.
Posted by: Oscar Wilde at December 13, 2025 12:39 PM (W7XSX)
For some reason this reminded me of this: It takes far more muscles to frown than to smile, but it doesn't take any at all to just sit there with a stupid look on your face.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:42 PM (uWKK8)
I never heard of him before a month ago and I have never read anything he said or wrote. I don't care about Tucker Carlson anymore either.
Tedious.
Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 12:42 PM (W7XSX)
169
Please don't give me "the treatment." Anything other than "the treatment."
lol
Putz..
Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 12:42 PM (Y1sOo)
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I get that he's been around. I first heard of him within the last couple months. And I'm no slouch to this sort of stuff.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 12:38 PM (NwnyJ)
The Groyper wars were several years ago. He’s been a thing for a while. He had a long public feud with Charlie Kirk for I want to say 2 years or so. He’s been out there. But his audience is actual 29 years olds, not the AoS 29 year olds.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:43 PM (9iyS+)
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165
'Happens during the week, too. Suddenly, "both" of them show up at once and soon start blowing each other, just as they have in this thread.'
Counterpoint: I pop in only from time to time because of work. Burt and MooMoo are practically always here.
I do wish they'd stop blowing each other.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 12:43 PM (fd80v)
172
Need to sentence all influencers to Moldova, then blow up their Internet.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 13, 2025 12:44 PM (RQW+z)
173
>>Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:33 PM (qTiDB)
Thinking it's escalated to a fracas.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 13, 2025 12:44 PM (NcvvS)
174
Just seeing that two U.S. servicemembers were killed in an ambush in Syria. More wounded. No details.
Posted by: Lincolntf at December 13, 2025 12:45 PM (vV6n9)
175
Weird timing. I just started reading "The Gulag Archipelago" this past week. Now I will be looking a little closer at what Solzhenitsyn is saying from the "double voicing" perspective.
Posted by: Crabby Appleton at December 13, 2025 12:46 PM (JcXec)
176
Don't flatter yourself, numbnuts. Attention whores crave attention. I give it to you.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 12:46 PM (Y1sOo)
177
Happens during the week, too. Suddenly, "both" of them show up at once and soon start blowing each other, just as they have in this thread.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 12:39 PM (Y1sOo)
Oh
My
God
Two people who share the same views post at the same time when the topic is interesting to both of them. Damn dude you got us. We’ve been exposed as Bangladeshi bots.
You’ve perfectly exemplified textbook Boomerism. Do you really not have the ability to accept that not everyone thinks like you? Holy fuck man.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:46 PM (9iyS+)
This is good evidence for what I was (politely) alluding to earlier about older generations not imparting wisdom, but behaving childishly. I know 11 year olds used to talk like this on multiplayer servers, but the only other people I know who talk like this are older (and generally overweight) know-it-all guys at least 55 or older. It's off-putting in person and hilariously out of place on forums and comment threads.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:46 PM (UdiE9)
179You noticed that too, eh? So did I. In fact, see my #80.
It's interesting that two individuals that have new nics that don't capitalize any of the words in their nics show up at the same time on the same thread calling BurtC who has been here 20 years a bot.
The other odd thing is that the only ones that seem to have been openly outed for paying people $7,000 k per post and that call meetings with Tim Poole and other influencers to discuss narratives aren't from Qatar, but from some other country over there in the Middle East.
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 12:47 PM (2NGiN)
180
2 hours and 15 minutes until the Black Knights of the Hudson initiate destruction sequence on the US Naval Academy Squids.
Prepare accordingly.
Posted by: muldoon at December 13, 2025 12:48 PM (/iMjX)
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 12:52 PM (fHsz8)
189 I saw a headline a few days about an interview Fuentes did.
He said he's a virgin and some stuff about women.
I didn't read the article cause I don't care.
Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 12:53 PM (3ek7K)
190
121 103 OT- I thought that this question was handled pretty well from the Bible question website: "Was Jesus a refugee?"
https://tinyurl.com/4d8cut6d
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 12:13 PM (PFs9e)
Good catch, Fenelon!
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (fHsz _______
The flaw with that account is (as is common today) its assumption that the Roman Empire was a unity. It wasn't. In those days, Judea was a vassal state, while Egypt had been actually taken over. We tend to assume uniformity under a given rule. That hasn't been the historical norm.
Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 12:53 PM (s0JqF)
191
I've been saying this ever since the right started losing its shit over this twerp. It's an op, and, as usual, the internet is fake and gay.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 13, 2025 12:51 PM (GvesS)
El Rushbo was botted. This bot snottin’ is nothing nes.
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 12:55 PM (fHsz8)
192
Nothing is real. It’s all fake and ghey in the digital world. AI is shaitan prepping the analog world for antichrist.
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 11:37 AM (fHsz
Absolutely this. I watched this vid on you tube last night about the harley twin cam engine. Its the biggest pile of shit lying off the wall misinformation I ever saw packaged as something serious. I worked on at least a 100 of these motors so I could see through the bullshit, but the average person wouldn't have a clue. It was a complete fantasy. They showed motors that weren't even harley, or actually harley engines they haven't made in 50 years. They claimed seal failures in areas that don't even have frigging seals, and never fail to start with, and on and on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5KBH7WwZk8
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 12:55 PM (snZF9)
193
His interview with Piers Morgan was hilarious. Piers called him an incel. And then the groypers dug around and found all sorts of material about his wife admitting she fucks other guys on the side and can’t stand to be around Piers. Poor Piers I almost (almost) felt sorry for the fucker.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:55 PM (9iyS+)
194
The flaw with that account is (as is common today) its assumption that the Roman Empire was a unity. It wasn't. In those days, Judea was a vassal state, while Egypt had been actually taken over. We tend to assume uniformity under a given rule. That hasn't been the historical norm.
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Right, but if the Bible had wanted to make some sort of "all refugees welcome" point, then the Lord would have instructed Joseph to take the Holy Family to Parthia. As it is going from Judea to Egypt was like going from Bechuanaland to a directly ruled British colony, or from the Marshall Islands to Hawaii.
So I guess we should welcome in refugees from those tiny Pacific island nations we have Free Associated status with. Given that they collectively have 100k or so people, I don't think that will be a big deal.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:56 PM (UdiE9)
195
Muldoon glad you reminded me
No dog in the fight but like to watch it
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 12:57 PM (Ia/+0)
Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 12:59 PM (W7XSX)
198
Was that "the treatment?" A mom joke stolen from the 90s internet?
lol
Putz..
Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 12:59 PM (Y1sOo)
199
144 Boomer is a mentality not necessarily an age. It’s the mentality of I got mine and fuck you, you’re on your own. And also a lack of curiosity about anything outside their immediate circle of influence as well as the inability to accept new information that goes against their perceived views.
See for example ncri. All the evidence presented that shows it’s a far left wing group, but it doesn’t matter. NF is a bad guy therefore if ncri says he’s a bad guy and I think he’s a bad guy then ncri must be correct.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:27 PM (9iyS+)
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Incoherent.
1. It makes "boomer" a useless term, whereas if used for a specific generation, it has a use.
2. The latter part is worse. It is in fact correct to say that, if Stalin says the sky is blue, then Stalin is correct, if only on this one point.
Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 01:00 PM (s0JqF)
200
Fuentes is probably a operative like many Leftists do to make Conservatives into a scape goat
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 01:00 PM (Ia/+0)
Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 01:00 PM (W7XSX)
204
Story Piers Morgan told LONG ago, on UK political party conferences:
Party conferences are wonderful things. All those drunken, vile, backbiting, hypocritical, sneering, self-interested, amoral creeps together in one heaving cesspit. And that's just the journalists. It's the one time every year when politicians confirm with their own eyes that the fourth estate, which so loves to expose their ghastly peccadillos, is just as ghastly as they are. My first conference was the Tories at Bournemouth in 1994. The News of the World, under
my new editorship, had recently exposed Alan Clark's affair with that judge's cover, and I arrived to find him haranguing
some of my executives in a disturbingly animated way. 'Alan,' I said firmly, 'I'm Piers. You can either punch me or buy me a pint.' He stared, bemused yet intrigued, for 20 seconds. 'Right, pint first, punch almost certainly later.' (cont)
Posted by: Nazdar at December 13, 2025 01:01 PM (NcvvS)
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192 Nothing is real. It’s all fake and ghey in the digital world. AI is shaitan prepping the analog world for antichrist.
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 11:37 AM (fHsz
Absolutely this. I watched this vid on you tube last night about the harley twin cam engine. Its the biggest pile of shit lying off the wall misinformation I ever saw packaged as something serious. I worked on at least a 100 of these motors so I could see through the bullshit, but the average person wouldn't have a clue. It was a complete fantasy. They showed motors that weren't even harley, or actually harley engines they haven't made in 50 years. They claimed seal failures in areas that don't even have frigging seals, and never fail to start with, and on and on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5KBH7WwZk8
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 12:55 PM (snZF9)
Side bar ewe tutes are 100% lies. Especially .military-themed.
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 01:01 PM (fHsz8)
Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 01:01 PM (XuXeR)
207When the pre-COVID baseline was about to be restored, the reaction was not gratitude for the windfall but outrage at its removal.
Speaking of COVID...
DC_Draino @DC_Draino
They kicked combat veterans out of the military for refusing the Covid vax.
They fired nurses and firefighters, people who they called heroes just months before.
Families were ripped apart at the holidays.
And for what?
A drug that now has an FDA black box warning because it can kill you?
People need to go to jail.
Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper
BREAKING: FDA intends to put a ‘black box’ warning on Covid-19 vaccines, CNN reports
The ‘black box’ is the most serious type of warning, which highlights major risks such as serious side effects and restrictions.
X: https://bit.ly/4oThblh
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 13, 2025 01:01 PM (P5BPp)
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194 The flaw with that account is (as is common today) its assumption that the Roman Empire was a unity. It wasn't. In those days, Judea was a vassal state, while Egypt had been actually taken over. We tend to assume uniformity under a given rule. That hasn't been the historical norm.
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Right, but if the Bible had wanted to make some sort of "all refugees welcome" point, then the Lord would have instructed Joseph to take the Holy Family to Parthia. As it is going from Judea to Egypt was like going from Bechuanaland to a directly ruled British colony, or from the Marshall Islands to Hawaii.
So I guess we should welcome in refugees from those tiny Pacific island nations we have Free Associated status with. Given that they collectively have 100k or so people, I don't think that will be a big deal.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:56 PM (UdiE9)
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Despite the Nood, I have to point out that you seem to have a problem reading more into people's words than they actually say. Work on it.
Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 01:02 PM (s0JqF)
209
"Influencers" = "Fetchers"? Ad Men? Hucksters?
"Internet Carnie"?
There has to be a word more reflecting the low nature of the "job."
Posted by: LASue at December 13, 2025 01:03 PM (UwBs6)
Eight pints later, he'd decided on his legal settlement. 'For the distress you've caused my wife, 10,000. For the distress you've caused me, 10,000. And for the distress you've caused my sons, 20,000. I can't look them in the face after you said I flashed my knob at gay parties.' I considered my position. 'Well, that's a bit on the pricey side, Alan. I've got a better idea. You give me 50,000, and we won't disclose the other nine women who've told us they
had affairs with you.' Long pause. 'Nine women .. God .. what were their names?'
Posted by: Nazdar at December 13, 2025 01:03 PM (NcvvS)
But 22year old college graduates aren't making high six figures in Fortune 500 companies and bedding down two new omen every night do that just proves we need to listen to that smarmy little faggot for...reasons.
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 01:06 PM (jVp5w)
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Despite the Nood, I have to point out that you seem to have a problem reading more into people's words than they actually say. Work on it.
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The original linked article concluded that Jesus was not a refugee because he never left the Roman Empire.
You noted (correctly) that Judea and Egypt were not both states as the author's comparison assumed.
I noted that Jesus would have been a refugee in the way the word is used now only if he had moved into an entirely different country, like Parthia.
Now you are butthurt. I'm not sure what your issue is either. I guess I should just not respond to in the future, like Burt and his crowd.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 01:08 PM (UdiE9)
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muldoon, the Knights are 6-5, Navy is 9-2. What is the Black Knights' secret weapon here?
Full disclosure - niece is USNA graduate currently serving.
Posted by: Nazdar at December 13, 2025 01:10 PM (NcvvS)
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 13, 2025 01:11 PM (O7YUW)
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Fun couple of days in the Mid Hudson. Three people have been killed in two separate accidents just south of me on the NYS Thruway. Today up north of me in Greene County a murder - suicide leaves three dead. Merry Christmas
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 01:11 PM (D+mpw)
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215 Fun couple of days in the Mid Hudson. Three people have been killed in two separate accidents just south of me on the NYS Thruway. Today up north of me in Greene County a murder - suicide leaves three dead. Merry Christmas
Posted by: Smell the Glove
Thruway's closed, Man!
Posted by: Arlo Guthrie at December 13, 2025 01:15 PM (oftw2)
217So we just instinctively believe and not question what NCRI, a very left wing group, tells us? Guess who is heavily involved with this non profit? Lynne Cheney, lol.
This is the same group that freaked out about Covid “misinformation” and was all in on shutting up anyone who questioned the narrative. These are the people who see wHiTe sUpReMacY around every corner. It’s run out of NYU and Princeton and was founded in part by a RINO Denver Riggleman who, like Cheney was all in on the J6 “insurrection” bullshit.
But OK they’re totally trustworthy guyz!!
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:29 AM
They most certainly are. At least for those with Gell-Mann Amnesia.
Posted by: Michael Crichton at December 13, 2025 01:15 PM (P5BPp)
218Qatar spends billions in the United States on a highly successful influence campaign.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 13, 2025 11:52 AM
Yep:
QIA ($557B fund) opened U.S. offices in New York (2015) and San Francisco.
Has poured billions into Manhattan skyscrapers, Uber, Snapchat, and Hollywood.
In May 2025, Qatar agreed to a $1.2 trillion economic exchange with the U.S.
Includes the largest Boeing widebody order in history and $500B+ in new AI and energy investment.
Americans are still blocked from owning Qatari media or strategic assets.
X: https://bit.ly/4iRO1l3
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 13, 2025 01:28 PM (P5BPp)
219I'm not going to guess who "owns" this outfit called NCRI, which I never heard of before, but if someone wants to look into it, I bet it won't come as any surprise who's actually behind it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:52 AM
Public records, tax filings, and reports indicate a diverse mix of funders, including:
Pro-Israel or Jewish community organizations → such as the Israel on Campus Coalition (ICC) ($335,000 in 2021) and the Ruderman Family Foundation ($34,750 recently).
Hindu advocacy groups → such as CoHNA (Coalition of Hindus of North America, $26,000 for research on Hinduphobia).
Tech/philanthropic foundations → such as the Motwani Jadeja Family Foundation ($125,000 recently).
Conservative-leaning sources → such as the Charles Koch Foundation/Stand Together Trust (announced support in 2020).
Other reported past support → from Open Society Foundations, philanthropist David Magerman, Rutgers University contributions, and anonymous donors.
Grok full answer: https://bit.ly/48TqBHG
Open Society Foundations = George Soros
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 13, 2025 01:34 PM (P5BPp)
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The extracts from that essay on The Entitlement Machine are exactly why what Trump is accomplishing.....is useless. Trump is trying to downsize government and save costs, but his programs are NOT addressing the real problem.
Until the mindset of running to DC for every little unexpected expense - at the individual level and the civic level and the State level - until the reflex expectation of federal bucks for every unexpected expense is broken, everything which Trump is accomplishing will be undone and undone right quickly.
Trump can succeed wildly and beyond all expectations at every one of his goals, and even get them enacted legislatively, but unless the mindset of ever-expanding entitlements is broken, it will all very quickly come to naught.
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at December 13, 2025 01:35 PM (bufu1)
Posted by: Just the punchline at December 13, 2025 12:00 PM
Gipple?
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 13, 2025 01:39 PM (P5BPp)
222Tucker's kid is working for JD Vance, and Levin's kid is working for DeSantis IIRC.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:12 PM
Via Grok:
Yes, Tucker Carlson's son, Buckley Carlson, is currently working for Vice President JD Vance as his deputy press secretary. This was widely reported in January 2025 by outlets like ABC News, Newsweek, and The Hill, after Buckley transitioned from his prior role as deputy chief of staff to Rep. Jim Banks on Capitol Hill.
Regarding Mark Levin, it's not one of his biological children (he has a son, Chase, and a daughter, Lauren). However, his stepson, David Milstein, worked as a paid consultant for Ron DeSantis's 2022 gubernatorial reelection campaign and his 2024 presidential campaign, focusing on Jewish and pro-Israel outreach. This was reported in November 2023 by Semafor and others, noting that Levin had praised DeSantis extensively on air without disclosing the family tie. The DeSantis presidential campaign ended in early 2024, so Milstein is no longer actively working for him in that capacity.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 13, 2025 01:51 PM (P5BPp)
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If NCRI is lefty, and lefty has been trying to call anyone to the right of them "Nazi" for years now, why would they act to discredit Fuentes - one of the very few to their right who actually does show signs of being a fan of the Nazis? He "proves" their point for them.
If I'm missing a point here, I'd appreciate correction.
Posted by: AB at December 13, 2025 01:59 PM (ArLSQ)
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223 If NCRI is lefty, and lefty has been trying to call anyone to the right of them "Nazi" for years now, why would they act to discredit Fuentes - one of the very few to their right who actually does show signs of being a fan of the Nazis? He "proves" their point for them.
If I'm missing a point here, I'd appreciate correction.
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No, I don't think you're missing anything. I use libtard news sources to prove a point, when that point isn't pushing their usual narrative. Mind you, citing NYT that school closures were a disaster during Covid hasn't swayed any libtards so far, but I guess that's libtards for you.
One of the best pieces of evidence that the second (more famous) Gulf of Tonkin Incident was just spooked sailors seeing things on radar scopes was that Hanoi loved to play up its attacks on Americans, and did not take credit for that "night attack". Hanoi were dirty commies, but the incentive structure meant that I believe them if they said years later that they did not attack the Maddox and the Turner Joy.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 02:07 PM (UdiE9)
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I don't believe anyone is an influencer. There are just grifters and content creators. It's all about the money.
Left, right, queer, straight, single, tradcon, blogs, X, YouTube, Rumble, Twitchy, whatever. No one really believes in anything they are selling. They are simply picking a "hot topic" of the day and using it to make money.
Case in point is this expose of "right-wing e-girl drama". These "right-wing e-girls" promote themselves as tradcons, yet behind the scenes they are a bunch of immature bitches to one another.
YouTube (hoe_math): https://bit.ly/4rWlkaR
Some of the crap these people say to one another is disgusting. And if any of it is true, it confirms what I've suspected of these right-wing "conferences" (e.g. the stuff like the upcoming "AmFest") that are nothing more than social hook-ups.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 13, 2025 02:18 PM (P5BPp)
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I despise influencers. Especially the shallow consumers.
Political influencers are cancerous. Yes, I know some of them are on "our" side, but still dangerous AF.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at December 13, 2025 02:32 PM (w6EFb)
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225 That is a really good video, Clyde. Thanks for posting it.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 02:44 PM (UdiE9)
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The founder of NCRI is a fellow named Joel Finkelstein, which just cannot be a real name. He may as well have called himself Jewey McJewface.
Either way, if you're going to ask me to choose between trusting Nick Fuentes, or Jewey McJewface, I'm on team Fuentes every time thanks.
Posted by: Exiled2Texas at December 13, 2025 04:36 PM (YINx+)
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Let's stop using this fake word. Besides, the way i know your influence is zero is when this fake word is used to refer to you. People of real influence do not need to be called that.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 04:48 PM (4786I)
230 Posted by: Exiled2Texas at December 13, 2025 04:36
You, like your hero, are a troll. A very hate-filled, bigoted one, at that.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 04:50 PM (4786I)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:38 AM (WF5qu)
Lots of places. But as nothing means shit to you, you don't want this country having a military at all.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 04:54 PM (4786I)
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"You, like your hero, are a troll. A very hate-filled, bigoted one, at that."
Joanie hates Chachi. Don't cry.
Posted by: Exiled2Texas at December 13, 2025 07:22 PM (YINx+)
The Classical Saturday Coffee Break & Prayer Revival
[H/T Thomas Paine, as in give me caffeine or give me death fame.]
Good morning boys and girls and everything in between. Before we enter the Prayer Revival just a few housekeeping matters to go over. (Rulz for those of you in Medford)
1) This is an open thread. Feel free to lurk, opine and/or bloviate.
2) Be kind, be nice. See if you are on somebody's list.
3) No. You may not run with sharp objects until the Food Thread comes around tomorrow.
4) Have a wonderful weekend.
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AoSHQ Weekly Prayer List
Please submit any prayer requests to me, “Annie’s Stew” at apaslo at-sign hotmail dot com. Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks unless we receive an update.
Prayer Requests:
11/6 - D sent an update on his wife Susan, and her battle with cancer. He sent his thanks to everyone for the prayers. They are helping and much appreciated. Susan had an infection which is being treated, but her sodium levels are bad again. She will be sent home soon, but is on restrictive fluids until this is cleared up. The good news is that she has gained some weight back and her voice is much stronger now. Thank you, and please keep up the prayers. They appreciate everyone!
11/20 Update – Susan is out of the hospital, after 2 weeks. For the first time in months, she doesn’t have any drainage tubes. Chemo is on hold for the next 2 weeks, to give her time to rest, recover, and gain some weight back. Thank you, everyone, for your prayers – please continue them!
11/15 – Smell the Glove asked for prayers for an 81 year-old aunt who has colon cancer. She is stopping chemo, since it’s not working and it’s tiring her out. Doctors will determine if any other treatment is proper.
11/29 Update – Thank you all for the prayers. The good Lord had another plan and the aunt passed away. She had taught at a Catholic school for over 20 years, raised 3 daughters and had 8 grandchildren. She also babysat Smell the Glove the first couple of years of life.
11/15 – Sponge posted an update on the “First lady”. She is doing OK from the surgery pain-wise, however it appears her compromised immune system from chemo is susceptible to viruses. She has been spiking a fever all weekend.
11/20 - Bluebell sent an update on grammie winger - good news! At her appointment, the doctor said her bloodwork is nearly perfect and her cancer cell count is dropping. She is in minimal pain. The chemo is working, thanks be to God! She will go back in 3 weeks for another round of chemo and then they will do a CT scan to see if she can have surgery to clean out the rest of the tumors. She is convinced – CONVINCED – that this is due in no small part to the treasured prayers of friends and family! They gave her weeks, and now she is looking at possible remission.
11/22 – Duke Lowell posted an update. He said that he is gradually starting to feel normal again, two months after his surgery. The main problem is that the effects of anesthesia are still suppressing his appetite.
11/22 – Commissar Hrothgar posted prayers for President Trump, to keep him safe from harm and may the many forces of evil arrayed against him and our country be made ineffective and come to naught.
11/22 – Oddbob requested prayers. He found out that his job is going away the end of December. They are a one-income family. He also requested prayers for another co-worker, who is in the same situation.
11/22 – Cosda sent an update on his wife’s condition. She started a year of immunotherapy in June for cancer. She is doing well with her treatments every three weeks, but her follow up dermatology scan found another mole with melanoma and 2 other abnormal and suspicious spots. She will be having more tissue removed from those areas for lab tests. Prayers are appreciated.
11/22 – The Walking Dude sent an update. We prayed for his mom in August, when she fell and broke her hip. She is 90 years old. She is still in the hospital but has been transferred to a better rehab run by the Masons. They are unsure if she will ever get out. Please pray for her recovery and return home.
11/24 – Bulg requested prayers for a neighbor who has cancer, and also prayers for his son and two of his friends, who are moving into a rental house in Arlington, VA on 11/28. Prayers for the 3 of them, that they may live together contentedly, and prayers for Bulg and his wife as they adjust to their son’s absence.
11/26 Update – The neighbor passed away on 11/24. Prayers are needed for the neighbor’s husband, Steve, as he grieves. They had no children.
11/29 – From about That Time asked for prayers after a lymphoma diagnosis. From about That Time has already begun chemo, and the kids and granddaughter had fun cutting off a ponytail and shaving hair in preparation.
12/1 – P received news that her 24 year old daughter has changed her name to a male name and had “top surgery”. P needs wisdom as to how to speak to her, and also how to speak with P’s other children, in a loving but honest way. Also, that God will use this to turn all their hearts back to Him.
12/3 – Teresa in Fort Worth posted an update. She had an MRI on 12/3, and will meet with the oncologist on 12/4, the surgeon on 12/8, and the surgery on 12/11. This is a good thing, because it looks like more tumors are starting to crop up in her liver. It doesn’t appear to have spread beyond there yet, thank goodness.
12/8 Update – The surgery is still planned for 12/11. Teresa will be in the hospital for 5-7 days. With doctor’s approval, they plan to travel to see family on 12/20. Thanks to everyone for their prayers!
12/11 Update – Today’s surgery to remove part of her liver is scheduled to begin at 2:30 pm (Central) and take about 3 hours. The surgeon will also be using heat ablation on the remnants of the other small tumors.
12/4 – E asked for prayers as she will be having surgery in two weeks. She is nervous, but everyone she has spoken with has nothing but good things to say about the surgeon, and she is looking forward to being on the other side of it. Please pray that all will go according to God’s will and that His name will be glorified.
12/6 – M requested prayers for Ron and Sherri. Ron has late stage Parkinson’s/dementia, and he recently fell and shattered his hip. He also requested prayers for Al, who fell through a railing and then down 12 feet, and broke seven ribs. He also punctured his lung. He is home now, recovering.
12/6 – Comrade Flounder asked for prayers for his FIL, who went to the hospital for AFIB, congestive heart, and received two stents. FIL is home now, still short of breath, and has a long road ahead. He is a kind-hearted man and a loving father. Comrade Flounder’s wife lost her mother a few years back to brain cancer, so having this go on is even more difficult during the holidays.
12/6 – neverenoughcaffeine asked for prayers for Tim, an acquaintance through church. He has prostate cancer and begins 28 days straight of radiation.
12/6 – pawn asked for prayes for a dear friend named Julia, who was told by her doctors that she has very little time to live. Julia has an incredible mind and drive. She was a Naval officer, a college professor, a competitive sailor, and a mother. She went to the hospital with pneumonia a couple of weeks ago and left with a terminal illness diagnosis. Please pray to God to give her the strength she needs in these last few days, and the peace that comes from acceptance.
For submission guidelines and other relevant info, please contact Annie's Stew, who is managing the prayer list. You can contact her at apaslo at-sign hotmail dot com. If you see a prayer request posted in a thread comment, feel free to copy and paste it and e-mail it to Annie's Stew. She tries to keep up with the requests in the threads, but she's not here all of the time, so she may not see it unless you e-mail it to her. Please note: Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks or so unless we receive an update.
2 Corinthians 4:8-9
We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair, persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed.
Posted by: dantesed at December 13, 2025 08:10 AM (Oy/m2)
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Annie’s Stew, I wanted to take the time to thank you VERY much for your persistent updates on the First Lady. I know I haven't emailed you in quite some time, but you've been adding updates from posts on the various threads on her progress.
You're wonderful and I appreciate your efforts. She feels ALL of your prayers and we are eternally grateful for your generosity. We are truly humbled.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:10 AM (IXZGh)
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 08:12 AM (Ia/+0)
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Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:10 AM (IXZGh)
How is she doing?
Posted by: dantesed at December 13, 2025 08:13 AM (Oy/m2)
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Haven't had it confirmed but my aunt and uncle from Alaska should be here. Want to go see them as soon as I can today hopefully
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 08:13 AM (Ia/+0)
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Good morning all. God is good. One caffeine infusion down with eggs and bacon. Second breakfast to come.
Posted by: PA Dutchman at December 13, 2025 08:15 AM (31p00)
10How is she doing?
Posted by: dantesed at December 13, 2025 08:13 AM (Oy/m2)
She's doing well. She's still on restrictions after her surgery last month, but things are progressing nicely. As for the cancer, the last mammogram showed clean and a meet with the surgeon this week said she likely needs to change her bra type to assist in the healing of skin around the radiation irritation.
Other than that, everything is going very well.
We are grateful to all who have been praying for her. She feels the love and support every day.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:16 AM (IXZGh)
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3) No. You may not run with sharp objects until the Food Thread comes around tomorrow.
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You are free to run around pantsless until the Sunday Morning Book Thread, however.
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Imaginary coffee (better blend than usual) raised in greeting, and a prayer up for us all.
First week of chemo like buttah, entire 2nd week in hospital dealing with side effects both major and minor. All major to me.
I say to myself, Fatt old boy, just deal with it.
I think I have, should go home today.
Posted by: From about That Time at December 13, 2025 08:20 AM (V88yL)
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I'm looking at the National Weather Service predictions for temps and precip for my AO in the next two weeks - perfect for low HVAC (provided one has a heat pump) bills! Taking time off and will get in all kinds of outdoor activities.
I'm geeked up.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 08:20 AM (a4flb)
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Greetings from the Carolinas. Nothing to report. In these troubling times, please remember Ephesians 6: 10-18.
Posted by: Going deep. Out. at December 13, 2025 08:22 AM (XqFM2)
Posted by: JSpicy at December 13, 2025 08:24 AM (pZoON)
19First week of chemo like buttah, entire 2nd week in hospital dealing with side effects both major and minor. All major to me.
I say to myself, Fatt old boy, just deal with it.
I think I have, should go home today.
Posted by: From about That Time at December 13, 2025 08:20 AM (V88yL)
Godspeed, sir. I hope the chemo does as expected. They've gotten pretty good with offsetting as much of the side effects as they can with steroids and Benadryl, so hopefully your discomfort is minimal.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:24 AM (IXZGh)
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At the local diner for breakfast and java. Life is good...
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at December 13, 2025 08:25 AM (/tk5+)
Posted by: Caffiend at December 13, 2025 08:25 AM (oftw2)
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Glory to the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is now, and will be forever. Amen.
Hail Mary, full of grace, blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.
St. Lucy, virgin, martyr, and patroness of the blind, pray for us.
I have prayed Rosaries for the intentions - both stated and unstated - of the Horde.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 13, 2025 08:25 AM (pJWtt)
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Dear Lord, grant me the grace of wonder. Surprise me, amaze me, awe me in every crevice of your universe. Each day enrapture me with your marvelous things without number. ...I do not ask to see the reason for it all: I ask only to share the wonder of it all.
Abraham Joshua Heschel
Polish American rabbi and teacher-died 1972
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 08:27 AM (vHIwP)
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Posted by: From about That Time at December 13, 2025 08:20 AM (V88yL
Sorry about the side effects. Will keep you in prayer.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 08:28 AM (vHIwP)
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Prayers to be said for all on the prayer list. Thanks Annie for adding Tim.
On a more mundane note, why do smoke detectors decide to announce that their batteries need replacing in the middle of the night? I'm too old to make it on 2 hours of sleep, never did fall back to sleep after the chirping.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 13, 2025 08:29 AM (2NHgQ)
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Good morning dear horde and thanks annie and mh and you morons for praying
Praise reports for {grammie} and {TiFW} this week
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 08:29 AM (A0sqA)
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Coffee is for closers. I have no desire this morning to put on pants and charge into the day.
Maybe I'll charge to the liquor store, and to grab supplies for a nice winter stew and/or casserole.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 13, 2025 08:29 AM (1zOXE)
And for FaTT a prayer for complete and speedy recovery
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 08:32 AM (A0sqA)
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I love that prayer, Fen. It's something like my own humble prayer to always find joy in the ordinary.
We live such hectic lives; sometimes I like to stop, and pull my focus in to something natural nearby and be amazed at its intricate design and place in the universe. Just stop and have a close look at tree bark, for instance.
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Good morning Horde,
God is good! Great to hear Grammie's prognosis is promising. Sponge's First Lady is healing up. And hopefully Teresa came through surgery well. I'm 6 weeks past cancer treatment with my hair and beard back. Prognosis looking good here as well. Believe in prayer. Believe in miracles, they exist even in this broken world.
I would ask for prayers for a dear friend's 3 week old granddaughter who is battling meningitis. Waiting on results for results on MRI.
Another friend's wife is having kidney issues. Only one kidney and it isn't functioning well.
Thank you.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 13, 2025 08:34 AM (7v6oI)
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FaTT, good news. It will be good to be home.
Posted by: Dash my
Thanks Dash, looking forward to it.
Still don't have the energy to capitalize the last two Ts in my nick.
Posted by: From about That Time at December 13, 2025 08:34 AM (V88yL)
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Posted by: From about That Time at December 13, 2025 08:20 AM (V88yL
Stay strong. It's a tough haul through chemo but keep telling yourself 2 things:
1) it's going to take more than this to bring the bear (you) down.
2) Cancer - you hit like a witch.
You can do this. You are stronger than you know.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 13, 2025 08:39 AM (7v6oI)
47I'll make a request for Mrs. F. who sprained her foot due to a fall on Maple St yesterday.
She literally hobbles in the door. So I ask, "Why didn't you call me to pick you up?"
"I took the bus," she says.
????
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025
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Darned if that doesn't sound like something Miss Linda would do. . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 08:40 AM (wzUl9)
48 Remembering daily all the Horde, especially those on the Prayer List, in my Rosary intentions and dedicating a decade to their needs.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 08:40 AM (tgvbd)
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The cats likedemand my ironclad compliance with their the clock-steady routine, though, so there's that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 08:37 AM (wzUl9)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 08:41 AM (A0sqA)
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42 Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.
Oh my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell. Lead all souls to heaven, especially those most in need of Thy mercy. Amen.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 08:38 AM (ZOv7s)
Two very simple yet powerful prayers. My favorites.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 13, 2025 08:41 AM (7v6oI)
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'Bout time I nipped out for my errands. All of you have a good day and try not to get caught doing naughty things. At least not until the Pet Thread.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 08:41 AM (wzUl9)
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Good morning Horde
Prayers for the Horde and their loved ones in need.
Army - Navy today . Always a great spectacle for our country.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 08:43 AM (D+mpw)
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Just eight more days and the daylight will start getting longer.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 13, 2025 08:44 AM (g8Ew8)
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@29 "Ye rejoice in your boastings." Not hard to find people proud of their humility!
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 13, 2025 08:45 AM (zdLoL)
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Darned if that doesn't sound like something Miss Linda would do. . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 08:40 AM (wzUl9)
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That's cray cray am I right?
She knew I was sitting at home.
And here's the cherry on top. She complained to me that the Muni removed a stop recently so she had to hobble 2 extra blocks.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 08:45 AM (A0sqA)
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First Lady is heading to NE TX to collect her dad and hit a Christmas party this evening. I am working, so I can't go, but she's looking forward to the time with our soon to be, God willing, neighbors.
She'll be back tomorrow. I'll be doing what little Christmas decorations we have while she's gone, so she'll return to some holiday cheer at home as well.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:45 AM (20K3i)
57I love coming here and seeing praise and worship from people with sardonic nics.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 08:39 AM (ZOv7s)
I do too, it shows a different side of that person's nature. I think is demonstrates the fallacy of discounting the spiritual.
If humans are merely "meat robots" and such a thing as the soul does not exist, why do we see such disparate reactions to the same stimuli?
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 13, 2025 08:46 AM (pJWtt)
58 Good morning again everyone. Today is winterize the sprinkler system day. Should be fun.
1) open the drain valve
2) close the supply valve
3) let the controller run each zone to allow everything to drain to the lowest zone where the the drain valve is
4) close the drain valve
Every so happy I learned how to service the system as a twenty something augmenting my Army pretend pay by installing them when we lived in El Paso. Rent a ditchwith on a Saturday morning for 24 hours. Rental company is closed on Sunday, so got it for 48 hours. Dig out three or four yards. Install three or four systems during the week after work.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 13, 2025 08:46 AM (QVmho)
59
Our cats have (sort of) adapted to our night-time routine.
They still insist on being let out at some ungodly hour of the morning... like 4 or 5am... but they are quiet the remainder of the night.
It's supposed to be bitterly cold tomorrow - Tuesday, so their routine will be abbreviated.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 08:46 AM (NwnyJ)
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Great time of year in N. TX, at least for low energy bills. Little bed for heat nor AC.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at December 13, 2025 08:47 AM (/tk5+)
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Saw a sign outside of a church that read... "Praise God". Simple, yet effective. What popped in to my head after reading this sign....
Father God
We give you the praise and the glory. Thank you for this life, this love, the family, the friends, the health, and the happiness with which you have blessed us. Help us to be healthy and safe so that we may enjoy these blessings for many years to come. Help us to be considered and wise in our decisions. In our beloved Savior name, amen.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 13, 2025 08:47 AM (2J/Lj)
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This seems to me to be rather ill-chosen. Are you denigrating public prayer? Or, are you denigrating people requesting prayer?
Some more context seems to be in order.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 13, 2025 08:38 AM (pJWtt)
It is James 4 15 and 16
Verse 14 put it more in context
Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 08:47 AM (gbOdA)
63FreeTime the ta-tas!! Bra- less is the best choice!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 13, 2025 08:37 AM (2J/Lj)
I am fine with this.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:48 AM (20K3i)
64 FreeTime the ta-tas!! Bra- less is the best choice!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench)
You know the rules. Pics.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 13, 2025 08:49 AM (QVmho)
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She literally hobbles in the door. So I ask, "Why didn't you call me to pick you up?"
"I took the bus," she says.
????
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 08:38 AM (A0sqA)
66
Ye rejoice in your boastings."
Not hard to find people proud of their humility!
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 13, 2025 08:45 AM (zdLoL)
Just ask them. They'll tell you they're the most humble people one will ever meet.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 13, 2025 08:49 AM (g8Ew8)
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Going to be 76 degrees today and then we get the polar vortex and it will get down to 28 degrees for a few hours tomorrow . I don’t like the big swing. I like to work into winter gradually.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:50 AM (KDPiq)
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Lord, please guide me through this and please grant me the wisdom to recognize that guidance when you provide it.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 13, 2025 08:50 AM (u73oe)
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I would like to ask prayers for our dear retired organist.,Jessie , for strength and to feel God's love. In the past month her daughter has died from cancer as have her two closest friends from church whom she had know about 85 or more years . Thanks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 08:52 AM (vHIwP)
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53 Just eight more days and the daylight will start getting longer.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons
Not enough to notice until Groundhog Day.
Posted by: Bill Murray at December 13, 2025 08:52 AM (oftw2)
71 Day 1 of the AKC National Championship in Orlando and The Big Dummy is getting shown today.
Unfortunately, we have had an unpleasant dispute with our regular handler this week and we're parting ways. Dummy's co-owner was sitting at ringside during the Hound Group on Wednesday and overheard him saying to someone outside the ring that TBD was OK but was never going to be Number 1. That's not the sort of thing you want to hear from someone who should be promoting your dog.
That's kind of the culmination of other grievances Her Majesty has had. Neither he nor his crew are very friendly. As in, won't even say good morning to you. And they regard any kind of suggestion about how to present TBD with distain.
I know that shows can be hectic and I know that some clients can be a pain in the ass, but we've always brought him good dogs, impeccably groomed, and we pay for services rendered at the end of the show. So I, for one, don't see a reason why we should put up with that.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 08:52 AM (tgvbd)
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"change her bra type to assist in the healing of skin around the radiation irritation."
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You know about the cup sizes?
Posted by: Frank Costanza at December 13, 2025 08:53 AM (2Ez/1)
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@38 change her bra type to assist in the healing
Why, it's a Christmas Miracle.
We can change any thread to a Boob Thread!
("according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself")
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 13, 2025 08:53 AM (zdLoL)
A mug of Folgers Classic Roast and a stale English muffin, but made better with ham, cheese and an egg on it.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 08:10 AM (NwnyJ)
You wouldn’t have posted that if you read last night’s ONT.😀
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:54 AM (KDPiq)
Posted by: Whether Man at December 13, 2025 08:54 AM (oftw2)
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I pray that Sherrone Moore moves to whatever South Pacific island Mel Tucker fled to and that they find happiness together.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 08:54 AM (Y1sOo)
77 I know that shows can be hectic and I know that some clients can be a pain in the ass, but we've always brought him good dogs, impeccably groomed, and we pay for services rendered at the end of the show. So I, for one, don't see a reason why we should put up with that.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 08:52 AM (tgvbd)
See, these are the stories I want to hear. I still think you should coordinate with one of the COBs to write a thread on your experiences in this world.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:54 AM (20K3i)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:55 AM (20K3i)
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My sprinkler system is typing on this keyboard.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 08:55 AM (A0sqA)
80Polar Vortex, Atmospheric Rivers, Bomb Cyclones, Oh, My!
Posted by: Whether Man at December 13, 2025 08:54 AM (oftw2)
The results of turning news and weather into entertainment.........
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:56 AM (20K3i)
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53 Just eight more days and the daylight will start getting longer.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons
My favorite day of the year. It's also the birthday of my only neice. Hubbymayhem goofs on me about this.
Tomorrow is his birthday. It's also the 16th anniversary of the day Mamamayhem passed. Yeh, that sucked for Hubbymayhem.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 13, 2025 08:57 AM (2J/Lj)
82 You wouldn’t have posted that if you read last night’s ONT.😀
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:54 AM (KDPiq)
That Folgers ad was ........ disturbing.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:57 AM (20K3i)
83It is James 4 15 and 16
Verse 14 put it more in context
Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 08:47 AM (gbOdA)
You're not really answering my question.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 13, 2025 08:57 AM (pJWtt)
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I know that shows can be hectic and I know that some clients can be a pain in the ass, but we've always brought him good dogs, impeccably groomed, and we pay for services rendered at the end of the show. So I, for one, don't see a reason why we should put up with that.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 08:52 AM (tgvbd)
Is he from Indonesia? They like their dogs fat and quiet. Makes 'em more tender.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 13, 2025 08:58 AM (g8Ew8)
85
A Polar Vortex has been a term used for decades.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:58 AM (KDPiq)
86Tomorrow is his birthday. It's also the 16th anniversary of the day Mamamayhem passed. Yeh, that sucked for Hubbymayhem.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 13, 2025 08:57 AM (2J/Lj)
Happy Birthday to him. I also have a birthday this week.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:58 AM (20K3i)
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We didn't have much of a fall this year. It went from hot to cold. The bottom is going to drop out tomorrow, down into the teens. Not looking forward to that at all.
Posted by: Case at December 13, 2025 08:59 AM (G1OIb)
88 And life is too short to put up with assholes.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:55 AM (20K3i)
It's not your ordinary customer experience. It's more like you have to keep them happy, not the other way around. They like to think they know everything and you're just some tiresome intruder. But Her Majesty knows her dog and was, before her knees gave out, among the best owner-handlers.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 08:59 AM (tgvbd)
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I know that shows can be hectic and I know that some clients can be a pain in the ass, but we've always brought him good dogs, impeccably groomed, and we pay for services rendered at the end of the show. So I, for one, don't see a reason why we should put up with that.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
Sorry for the upheaval, but I have fired employees, workmen, even doctors for that kind of mess and never regretted it. Don't make me pay for bad attitude, because I won't.
Posted by: Whether Man at December 13, 2025 08:59 AM (oftw2)
90
I think someone in Canada is missing an air mass. Please come get it.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 13, 2025 08:59 AM (2Ez/1)
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I'm out of here, got errands to run before the Polar Vortex(tm) hits.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 13, 2025 08:59 AM (pJWtt)
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My niece's dog crossed the rainbow Bridge yesterday
The family is getting together for his burial.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at December 13, 2025 09:00 AM (8CIFn)
93
Two very simple yet powerful prayers. My favorites.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 13, 2025 08:41 AM (7v6oI)
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I used to just post the Glory Be, but I realized that it went so well with the Fatima prayer that they should be kept together.
I benched a professional handler at a show in Indianapolis for waving bait in front on my dog's face during a tight, line-abreast group stack that the judge called for.
By her reaction, you'd have thought I had accused her of murder. She denied the waving of the bait thing, but unfortunately for her, I had video of it on my phone.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 09:01 AM (Y1sOo)
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60 Great time of year in N. TX, at least for low energy bills. Little bed for heat nor AC.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at December 13, 2025 08:47 AM (/tk5+)
Yes it is! We’ve finally gotten to where all the leaves are turning. I have 3 Japanese Maples in the backyard, and they are resplendent in gorgeous hues of orange, red, and burgundy. And the two pears on the side are golden from top to bottom.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 09:02 AM (k5cxK)
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> We didn't have much of a fall this year. It went from hot to cold. The bottom is going to drop out tomorrow, down into the teens. Not looking forward to that at all.
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Here in KY too. It's been overcast and cold most of November and now into December. Supposed to be near zero tomorrow night with wind chills around -10F.
The house isn't insulated for that kind of cold.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 09:03 AM (NwnyJ)
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My sprinkler system is typing on this keyboard.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
Modern technology is amazing. What nic does it post under?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 13, 2025 09:03 AM (0U5gm)
I didn't mention this at the time because frankly I was tired of thinking, talking and dealing with it. When something bad is going on, and you tell everyone, yes, you get some sympathy and prayers, but then people will ask how it is going, which forces you to think about it when you'd rather just move on to happier topics.
This is what happened when CPS was tormenting us. I only told a few people and never mentioned it here until long after it was over. I notified my Guard unit's security manager because I had to, but emphasized that it was absolutely confidential because I liked coming to drill and talking about other stuff. This request was honored.
Anyway, I've been dealing with elevated blood pressure for a year, and then in September learned that I had Type II diabetes and my blood sugar levels were really bad. My doctor at the time was a condescending pill-pusher so I fired him and got a new one who was made to understand that I call the shots, which she agreed. I had hitherto been in excellent overall health, rarely getting sick and I only got a primary doctor because I was over 29 and my wife insisted. (cont)
Frigid outside. Gonna stay inside and (try to) bake cookies.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 09:08 AM (kpS4V)
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You wouldn’t have posted that if you read last night’s ONT.😀
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:54 AM (KDPiq)
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I missed it last night, but I watched it this morning.
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“See, these are the stories I want to hear. I still think you should coordinate with one of the COBs to write a thread on your experiences in this world.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:54 AM (20K3i)”
I’m curious to know how close they are to “Best in Show.”
Well worth watching btw, if only to see Fred Willard as the Best Event Announcer Ever.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 09:11 AM (k5cxK)
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Sponge, since it turned into a boob and bra thread, I would like to suggest an Evelyn Bobbie bra for the First Lady. They're stupid expensive, but very easy wearing. Wide bands, no hooks and buckles. Feels like a gentle hug.
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Polar Vortex has been a term used for decades.
Posted by: the way I see it at
Yes, meaning a sharp sudden drop in temperature accompanied by high winds from the north or northwest.
A short term drastic change, not a calamity.
Posted by: From about That Time at December 13, 2025 09:12 AM (V88yL)
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If humans are merely "meat robots" and such a thing as the soul does not exist ….
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No no no …. They got it all wrong.
You are a soul. You have a body.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 09:14 AM (kBA/i)
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(cont) I had never had high BP before, was a regular blood donor (before Covid masking drove me away) and so the discovery of the diabeetus made sense. My theory was that upon retirement, I decided to eat whatever I wanted for the first time in decades - pop with sugar, ice cream every night, etc. What I did not realize was that while I did not have diabetes to the extent of my father or grandfather, I was still sensitive, and had augured myself in good.
I therefore went through everything I ate, cut out all the sugar I could identify, slashed carbs and did the apple cider vinegar thing while kicking up my exercise.
Just as importantly, I received the Sacrament of the Anointing of the Sick. Because my BP was scary high, I accepted a low dose of meds, and that worked. But I wanted to first see what would happen if I just cut off the sugar.
This week I met with the doctor, went over the labs and the results were spectacular. Cut the A1C by almost 50 percent to controlled levels in 90s days. Doc was impressed. The temptation is to attribute this to my efforts, but we all know that God has the final say. God be praised!
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Prayers up for all the Horde's intentions. Those asked and unasked.
Posted by: olddog in mo at December 13, 2025 09:16 AM (bQ4nt)
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Greetings, Fen ... Two suggestions for your son ... Check your area for any farm-to-table restaurants which grow their own vegetables ... Another indirect path to employment might be hydroponic systems; if there's a company in your area which sells these, he could schedule visit to learn more about the product(s) plus inquire about a job or internship.
Posted by: Kathy at December 13, 2025 09:17 AM (zuKcR)
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>>Well worth watching btw, if only to see Fred Willard as the Best Event Announcer Ever.
Much of it was ad-libbed by him, too.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 09:17 AM (Y1sOo)
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Congratulations A. H. !!! Those are marvelous results!
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 09:18 AM (k5cxK)
113
"Now tell me, which one of these dogs would you want to have as your wide receiver on your football team?"
Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 09:18 AM (Y1sOo)
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Why, it's a Christmas Miracle.
We can change any thread to a Boob Thread!
("according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself")
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 13, 2025 08:53 AM (zdLoL)
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Free the sweater puppies! Let them frolic and play!
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Another indirect path to employment might be hydroponic systems
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Dude! That’s what I’m talkin’ about!
Posted by: I Owe A Lot To Iowa Pot at December 13, 2025 09:19 AM (kBA/i)
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Prayers for all those listed intentions, and for anyone who, like me, struggles to heed this wisdom from 1 Peter 3:
8 Finally, all of you, be of one mind, sympathetic, loving toward one another, compassionate, humble. 9 Do not return evil for evil, or insult for insult; but, on the contrary, a blessing, because to this you were called, that you might inherit a blessing.
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at December 13, 2025 09:20 AM (kOluj)
High temp on Sunday will be 9°. Yes I said high temperature for the day will be 9 degrees. It's snowing right now. Temp is hovering around 30°.
Winter is just one very, very long Monday.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench)
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You must be on the other side of the Ohio River from us, here in KY. We're south-southwest of Louisville.
It's 29 here. Yesterday wasn't too bad... had some sun for the first time in what seems like months. Going to be bitterly cold tomorrow - Tuesday.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 09:20 AM (NwnyJ)
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God be praised!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 09:15 AM (ZOv7s)
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This
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 09:21 AM (9ipOP)
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I pray that Sherrone Moore moves to whatever South Pacific island Mel Tucker fled to and that they find happiness together.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 08:54 AM (Y1sOo)
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It's good that this is a slow time of year for work because a bunch of folks in my office (including me) are Spartan grads and spent most of Thursday and Friday following the scandal on various media and giving regular updates on what we found.
Best response: "Killing yourself with a butter knife? Why not go all in and use a spoon?"
120 "Free the sweater puppies! Let them frolic and play!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd"
Is this about me?
Posted by: Sue Ellen Mischke at December 13, 2025 09:24 AM (2Ez/1)
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15 Greetings from the Carolinas. Nothing to report. In these troubling times, please remember Ephesians 6: 10-18.
Posted by: Going deep. Out.
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*fistbump* I recently shared that passage with a friend who is battling cancer.
Great Plains greetings to you from a former/3-year resident of the Greenville-Spartanburg area.
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at December 13, 2025 09:27 AM (kOluj)
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Recent update: Bulg asked for prayers as his brother’s wife’s dementia took a turn for the worse and she entered a memory care facility. Prayers are needed for her, the brother, and their grown daughters. And also prayers are needed for a woman from church who was just diagnosed with cancer. She needs prayers, and so does her granddaughter, who lives with her.
Posted by: AnniesStew at December 13, 2025 09:27 AM (VEsJT)
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It's 29 here. Yesterday wasn't too bad... had some sun for the first time in what seems like months. Going to be bitterly cold tomorrow - Tuesday.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 09:20 AM (NwnyJ)
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It's 17 here. Low will be 4 overnight. Looks like late next week we get a thaw before the next round.
That's nice. Gives a chance for the first potholes of the season to open up.
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High temp on Sunday will be 9°. Yes I said high temperature for the day will be 9 degrees. It's snowing right now. Temp is hovering around 30°.
Winter is just one very, very long Monday.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench)
Just think. The coldest part of the year (last two weeks of Jan - first two weeks of Feb) isn't even here yet.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 13, 2025 09:30 AM (g8Ew8)
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Wow, I live in the Bitterroot Valley MT at 3500 feet. It was 50 degrees last night when we turned off the lights for bed. 41 right now. I don't want the polar vortex temps, commonly referred to as an Alberta Clipper when I lived in N. IN., that said, please send cooler temps.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 13, 2025 09:31 AM (2NHgQ)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 13, 2025 09:31 AM (emBoF)
127Sponge, since it turned into a boob and bra thread, I would like to suggest an Evelyn Bobbie bra for the First Lady. They're stupid expensive, but very easy wearing. Wide bands, no hooks and buckles. Feels like a gentle hug.
evelynbobbie.com
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 13, 2025 09:11 AM (h7ZuX)
I will pass that along. Thanks!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 09:33 AM (20K3i)
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Recent update: Bulg asked for prayers as his brother’s wife’s dementia took a turn for the worse and she entered a memory care facility.
Posted by: AnniesStew at December 13, 2025 09:27 AM (VEsJT)
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My stepmother was put into a facility earlier this year, and she went a long time without talking to anyone, but not long ago, she started talking a little, much to the surprise of my father. He goes every day to ensure she eats at least one meal.
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The other entertaining off-field sports story this week is as the high school team which traveled from Philadelphia to Florida. The night before the big game, 8 or 9 of them decided it would be fun to loot the local Dick’s sports store.
They and their coach were shocked when they were arrested and then told “nope this is Florida, not Philadelphia, and laws get enforced around here.”
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 09:35 AM (k5cxK)
130Free the sweater puppies! Let them frolic and play!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 09:19 AM
Right after I retire, if you promise to link the video.
Posted by: Nancy P. (D-CA) at December 13, 2025 09:35 AM (0sNs1)
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Just a reminder: the left is now wholly controlled by demons. They talk about policy concerns, but it's all cover for their acts of evil. Gov. Jabba the Hutt of Illinois just signed an "assisted suicide" law that *requires* religious hospitals to provide referrals to murder clinics.
It's never "my body, my choice," but always "You WILL offer sacrifice to the devil!"
Sounds like you're somewhat close to the Western Kentucky Parkway. I think Elizabethtown west? Been over 40 years.
One of the prettiest drives I've ever taken. Early April. On the way to Kentucky Lake. There had been an early morning rain but mid-morning and the sun had come out. The redbuds and dogwoods were blooming on the hillsides.
Posted by: TeeJ at December 13, 2025 09:38 AM (jMlHD)
134since it turned into a boob and bra thread, I would like to suggest an Evelyn Bobbie bra for the First Lady. They're stupid expensive, but very easy wearing. Wide bands, no hooks and buckles. Feels like a gentle hug.
evelynbobbie.com
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 13, 2025 09:11 AM
Do they come in the Pantone 2026 Color of the Year, Cloud Dancer?
Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Nancy P. (D-CA) at December 13, 2025 09:38 AM (0sNs1)
135 1974 Taster's Choice TV ad that you all remember:
https://is.gd/1X4eXK
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 13, 2025 09:40 AM (zlW+y)
Memory care community or neighborhood sounds so much better.
/word policing function off
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 09:49 AM (A0sqA)
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1974 Taster's Choice TV ad that you all remember:
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 13, 2025 09:40 AM (zlW+y)
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During the field exercise at the end of Basic Training, I was on guard and struggling to keep my eyes open. My solution was to tear open the coffee packet and a sugar packet and just eat it, washing it down with some water. Zing! Kept me up for the rest of my shift.
“My soul glorifies the Lord
and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for he has been mindful of the humble state of his servant.
From now on all generations will call me blessed, for the Mighty One has done great things for me—
holy is his name.”
Luke 1: 46-49
Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2025 09:53 AM (i14TE)
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 09:56 AM (Ia/+0)
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But his face fell, and he went away sad, for he had a great many open tabs.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 13, 2025 09:54 AM (2Ez/1)
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This is about Ace, isn't it?
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131 Just a reminder: the left is now wholly controlled by demons.”
There’s a good example of that in Texas, in the entertaining race for the dem nomination to run for Senator, which has now attracted national attention. No, not Jasmine Crockett, although I find that part quite amusing because I’ve been telling people for months that she was going to be the Dem nominee, and until this week all the “smart people” said that idea was crazy.
But Texas dems have decided to make it a contest between the two most absolutely loathsome candidates they could find. Her opponent, the sad white twink Talerico, who pretends to be some kind of minister, decided to bolster his cred with Democrats by saying that it would have been OK if Mary would have aborted Jesus.
I know that sounds to monstrously ridiculous for anyone to even think - but that’s true “progressive “ dogma right now.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 10:01 AM (k5cxK)
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Happy Saturday, and continued prayers for the horde!
Hope Teresa in Ft Worth's 12/11 surgery was a success, and the recovery is going smoothly.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 13, 2025 10:04 AM (NuV6c)
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Mornin' Horde and prayers up. It's going to be 63 today in lovely upstate SC. Unfortunately that means I no longer have an excuse not to work in the yard.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 13, 2025 10:05 AM (g8Ew8)
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That story gets better - the “Coach” tried to intervene at the Dick store and said “Don’t you cops have anything better to do?” and crap like that.
That wasn’t those hoodlums first rodeo either, that had that shit down to a science. Works real good in Philly, not so great in Florida.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 10:05 AM (kmhyd)
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Thanks for the Coffee Thread and Prayer Revival, Mis Hum and Annie!
Prayers up for all of God's children this holiday season.
And may God continue to bless the U.S.A. and Israel.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 13, 2025 10:06 AM (kB9dk)
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Her opponent, the sad white twink Talerico, who pretends to be some kind of minister, decided to bolster his cred with Democrats by saying that it would have been OK if Mary would have aborted Jesus.
I know that sounds to monstrously ridiculous for anyone to even think - but that’s true “progressive “ dogma right now.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 10:01 AM (k5cxK)
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The Party of Death. They want dead babies, sterile teenagers and dead grannies.
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Good morning all
Hope you all are doing okay. Any word about Teresa's surgery?
Today's plan is to ferry all the Hannukah gifts to my son's house in advance of the party tomorrow. Is it wrong that I am not the least bit unhappy that my fight with my sister that kept me from having to buy gifts for kids I hardly know has made my holiday way less stressful?
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>>, decided to bolster his cred with Democrats by saying that it would have been OK if Mary would have aborted Jesus.
OK to have aborted God's son, our savior?
There is no adequate response to such and assertion, it is that amazingly horrifying.
Abortion corrupts everything, absolutely everything -- there is nothing some people will not do or say to protect the ability to kill babies.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 13, 2025 10:08 AM (NuV6c)
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But his face fell, and he went away sad, for he had a great many open tabs.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 13, 2025 09:54 AM (2Ez/1)
LOL! And btw you are an incredibly lucky poster - you had to give up a great hash, but you got another great one in return! Most of us never even got one that’s worth remembering.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 10:08 AM (k5cxK)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 10:10 AM (L/fGl)
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Watched "The Best Christmas Pageant Ever" last weekend. Having read the book aloud for many Christmases, I had mixed feelings about a movie version. They did a good job of keeping it mostly true to the book. Must've been hard to *not* wokify it in current Hollywood.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 13, 2025 10:11 AM (NuV6c)
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Teresa posted at least a couple of times after surgery that I saw. I don't want to get any details wrong, so let me see if I can find one of her posts to share...
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But Texas dems have decided to make it a contest between the two most absolutely loathsome candidates they could find. ...
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Hold our beer.
-San Francisco Democratic Party Central Committee
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:12 AM (To7on)
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Santa has been riding a fire truck around here all morning, sure hasn't been by my house yet
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 10:13 AM (Ia/+0)
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Good morning, Horde. I ask that my wife, who is not on this smart military blog, be added to your prayers. She was diagnosed a few weeks back with inflammatory breast cancer and scheduled to start chemo on 2 December. The day after her first treatment, she spiked a 104°F fever and had to be transported to the hospital, where they discovered pneumonia. They've had her in ICU for most of the last week to get her enough oxygen and work on the pneumonia. She's improving, but slowly.
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Thanks for the Coffee Thread and Prayer Revival, Mis Hum and Annie!
Prayers up for all of God's children this holiday season.
And may God continue to bless the U.S.A. and Israel.
Yeah, buddy!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 10:14 AM (Kt19C)
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Teresa reported that surgeon decided not to resection her liver, but instead installed a port that will allow chemo medication to be directly injected in the liver.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:14 AM (To7on)
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Found this from Teresa on JJ's thread yesterday:
"I'm awake, but they just gave me a Tylenol and an oxycodone, so I may not be conscious too much longer 🤣🤣🤣 Will be seeing the surgical resident first, then Dr. Yopp will be by to see me around 8 or 9.
Apparently my liver is still intact, but I will be going home with an HAI pump. I will have to come up with a fun name for him - maybe call him "Fred". The medicine they will be putting in the pump is called FUDR - you KNOW we are going to be having fun with that acronym....
And now we get to start playing whack-a-mole with all of these pesky little tumors that didn't show up on the CT Scan or the MRI (we were told that it is not uncommon to find that once they go in).
The good news is that the pump is even MORE targeted than anything I have had before, and they can use much more medication without the worry of killing "healthy" tissue in the process.
I think the oxycodone may be kicking in now - see you guys on the other side...
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 12, 2025 07:25 AM (U5cTn)"
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OK to have aborted God's son, our savior?
There is no adequate response to such and assertion, it is that amazingly horrifying.
Abortion corrupts everything, absolutely everything -- there is nothing some people will not do or say to protect the ability to kill babies.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 13, 2025 10:08 AM (NuV6c)
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It started out as feel-good "nice" Christianity where there really is no hell, just devils we haven't made friends with yet, and since Jesus died for our sins, we can sin as much as we want. In fact, I've seen people argue that we *should* sin, otherwise that grace would just be wasted.
It may seem that the rabbit hole is pretty deep, but it's actually just about denying sin and coming up with excuses to do what you want.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 13, 2025 10:16 AM (NuV6c)
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Good morning, Horde. I ask that my wife, who is not on this smart military blog, be added to your prayers.
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A prayer for complete and speedy healing.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:16 AM (To7on)
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162 Good morning, Horde. I ask that my wife, who is not on this smart military blog, be added to your prayers.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at December 13, 2025 10:14 AM (v23vE)
Absolutely. Prayers up now, and she's in my rotation.
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161 Santa has been riding a fire truck around here all morning, sure hasn't been by my house yet
Posted by: Skip
Made some snowballs the other day when we had an inch of snow-now in freezer. Santa will get a surprise when he comes around on the pumper this year. They do it after dark here because the trucks are lit. I'm sure Santa is lit, too. IYKWIMAITYD
Posted by: Penguin Pete at December 13, 2025 10:17 AM (oftw2)
173Absolutely. Prayers up now, and she's in my rotation.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 13, 2025 10:17 AM (h7ZuX)
I can't remember if y'all talked, but she was in Corsicana with me, and helped me jealously guard the sourdough starter all the way home! I need to try making that today.
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>>. . . It may seem that the rabbit hole is pretty deep, but it's actually just about denying sin and coming up with excuses to do what you want.
Yikes. Wouldn't want people to try to be better, huh?
As my minister will say, people who reinterpret the scripture to validate/support modern culture think they are better than God - he is so judge-y and mean!
Posted by: Lizzy at December 13, 2025 10:19 AM (NuV6c)
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{{{S'puppy}}}
I know how difficult this is. My thoughts are with you. Sending hugs and much love.
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But Texas dems have decided to make it a contest between the two most absolutely loathsome candidates they could find. Her opponent, the sad white twink Talerico, who pretends to be some kind of minister, decided to bolster his cred with Democrats by saying that it would have been OK if Mary would have aborted Jesus.
I know that sounds to monstrously ridiculous for anyone to even think - but that’s true “progressive “ dogma right now.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 10:01 AM (k5cxK)
He sounds nice.
Posted by: LASue at December 13, 2025 10:24 AM (UwBs6)
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Yikes. Wouldn't want people to try to be better, huh?
As my minister will say, people who reinterpret the scripture to validate/support modern culture think they are better than God - he is so judge-y and mean!
Posted by: Lizzy at December 13, 2025 10:19 AM (NuV6c)
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I think very few people bother to actually read Milton's Paradise Lost, but much of it has been internalized by our society in terms of making the devil a sympathetic character whose lieutenants still have some virtues.
Tolkien had a much clearer grasp of the totality of evil, and how it gradually corrupts one completely, to the point where good intentions cannot even be imagined.
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It started out as feel-good "nice" Christianity where there really is no hell, just devils we haven't made friends with yet, and since Jesus died for our sins, we can sin as much as we want. In fact, I've seen people argue that we *should* sin, otherwise that grace would just be wasted.
It may seem that the rabbit hole is pretty deep, but it's actually just about denying sin and coming up with excuses to do what you want.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 10:15 AM (ZOv7s)
And people today think they’re coming up with “new ideas” and yet all of those go back to many of the gnostic heresies that began almost as soon as Christianity itself did.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 10:24 AM (k5cxK)
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In fact, I've seen people argue that we *should* sin, otherwise that grace would just be wasted.
You can't reason with people that fucking stupid.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 13, 2025 10:26 AM (LjSYW)
182As my minister will say, people who reinterpret the scripture to validate/support modern culture think they are better than God - he is so judge-y and mean!
That horse has already left the barn.
Evangelicalism, in the past fifty years has done nothing but syncretize with the worst of pop culture.
Everything from changing a few words in secular music and rolling that through the so-called "Praise & Worship Team", to the "Come As You Are" (stay as you came) "Seeker Sensitive" pop psychology as a substitute for sanctification foolishness.
Do a honest comparison of the ancient faiths (e.g. Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodox) which heavily relies on spirituality vs the highly materialistic American Religion (Free Will Dispensationalism) and you will witness how far Christianity has collapsed due to secularization.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 10:27 AM (a4flb)
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A few years back, a bunch of Yankees decided that they were mightily sick and tired of threats, aggessive posturing and all-out sedition. And they took decisive action to address those concerns. Unfortunately, they stopped short of outlawing the Democrat party and unwisely allowed that congenitally corrupt and chronically unhappy band to persist. And here we are at the same point again with a Democrat party still clinging to racist doctrine, hate and envy as the foundations of their miserable existence. Jeez.
Posted by: ErikInTexas at December 13, 2025 10:27 AM (4b7CV)
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In fact, I've seen people argue that we *should* sin, otherwise that grace would just be wasted.
It may seem that the rabbit hole is pretty deep, but it's actually just about denying sin and coming up with excuses to do what you want.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 10:15 AM (ZOv7s)
And people today think they’re coming up with “new ideas” and yet all of those go back to many of the gnostic heresies that began almost as soon as Christianity itself did.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. (Romans 6:1-4)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 10:28 AM (L/fGl)
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And people today think they’re coming up with “new ideas” and yet all of those go back to many of the gnostic heresies that began almost as soon as Christianity itself did.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 10:24 AM (k5cxK)
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It's really quite edifying to go back. Pelagianism is really a going thing these days, which goes back to the time of St. Augustine.
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169 162 Good morning, Horde. I ask that my wife, who is not on this smart military blog, be added to your prayers.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at December 13, 2025 10:14 AM (v23vE)
You got it
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 13, 2025 10:29 AM (LjSYW)
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Seems one may volunteer to ring bell for the Salvation Army.
Hmm, opportunity to skim cash? Muhuhaha.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 10:29 AM (Kt19C)
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Finally inside after 3 hours, will have to go out later to clean up my stuff
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 10:31 AM (Ia/+0)
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Actor Peter Greene died. Had a face that you know and was perfect for playing a bad guy /psycho. Was only 60, but had previous issues with addiction. RIP
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 10:31 AM (D+mpw)
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So Mike DeWine, whose father was not a mailman but in spirit the mailman lives on in the Ohio statehouse, now faces a Somalian Scam like "Special" Tim Walz.
It seems the low IQ Somalians in Ohio are smart enough to scam a bunch of money from DeWine's favorite money giveaway programs.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 13, 2025 10:32 AM (oAg81)
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I can't remember if y'all talked, but she was in Corsicana with me, and helped me jealously guard the sourdough starter all the way home! I need to try making that today.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at December 13, 2025 10:18 AM (v23vE)
We did talk, so I am happy to have her image in my mind when I pray for her. Hope your bread does well!
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Prominent Guardian columnist, George Monbiot has come out with the ultimate statement of Leftist European attitudes towards mass immigration:
The facts are stark: Europe must open the door to migrants, or face its own extinction
https://tinyurl.com/5n8e8skp
Europe is facing demographic collapse due to low birth rates, you see, so Europe needs mass immigration, and it's racist to question where those immigrants are coming from.
After all, British roast beef originally comes from the Middle East, and everything in European civilization comes from somewhere else, so there is no reason to object to turning much of England into a province of Pakistan.
Weirdly, Monbiot is Jewish, but importing millions of people who want to kill him apparently isn't a problem.
Posted by: Blackadder! at December 13, 2025 10:34 AM (xTIDn)
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Evangelicalism, in the past fifty years has done nothing but syncretize with the worst of pop culture.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 10:27 AM (a4flb)
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I disagree. There was an effort to bend the popular culture in a Christian direction and it was somewhat successful, but it was undermined by Evangelical leaders who started pushing people to withdraw from "the world" and stop contesting the popular culture.
Rod Dreher's "The Benedict Option" is the Catholic/Orthodox version of this: quit the battle, go hide, hope things turn around later.
And evil responded with a massive offensive on every front. It has been beaten back but is still seething and quite powerful. I'm pleased to see more young people flocking to Christ and more orthodox Christians taking firm stands. "Nice" Christianity is dead.
And we've also identified those who betrayed their flocks with bad advice, whether intentionally or not.
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Actor Peter Greene died. Had a face that you know and was perfect for playing a bad guy /psycho. Was only 60, but had previous issues with addiction. RIP
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 10:31 AM (D+mpw)
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Just like the great Peter Green who played for The Bluesbreakers and early Fleetwood Mac.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 13, 2025 10:35 AM (oAg81)
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At 8:30 this morning, there was bright blue sky cross crossed by a number of very large and ongoing chem trails. At 9:45, the sky is entirely white with thin cloud cover. No wonder it has been so darn cold. I am convinced that the powers that be want us back in an ice age.
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The other entertaining off-field sports story this week is as the high school team which traveled from Philadelphia to Florida. The night before the big game, 8 or 9 of them decided it would be fun to loot the local Dick’s sports store.
Those young men are the product of a poor environment. There's nothing wrong with them, I can prove it.
Posted by: Randolph Duke at December 13, 2025 10:39 AM (R/m4+)
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Well, gotta go get things done. God be with you!
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 13, 2025 10:40 AM (qwx/I)
203It may seem that the rabbit hole is pretty deep, but it's actually just about denying sin and coming up with excuses to do what you want.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
You have inspired me within the past few months to more deeply explore the ancient faiths (RC and EO in particular). Along that path one can't help but look at these State Religions and see that core to their implementation and success that they must reject or minimalize Election and more from the individual to The Church, such where a Mafioso can kill a competitor while on his way to Mass and there be no conflict.
Get Baptized into the Church, leverage Means of Grace to an ultimate destination of Theosis. This is all pretty spiritual and treats sin and grace as individual barter transactions - do some sins, confess for forgiveness, do some penance, do some Purgatory, wash rinse repeat.
Faith + Works.
The Reformed view is much more different in that Sin can only be canceled by Grace through Faith.
Evangelicals, OTOH, view Sin as a Mistake, a goof, accident - IOW, they have traded in Absolute Truth for Relative Truth.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 10:41 AM (a4flb)
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Daily Race War Update -- white woman victim of brutal acid attack in Savannah, GA. Suspect at large. Truly one of the most vile crimes imaginable.
I'm sure the AWFL community will commit to finding the assailant.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 13, 2025 10:41 AM (qwx/I)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 13, 2025 10:44 AM (dct30)
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And evil responded with a massive offensive on every front. It has been beaten back but is still seething and quite powerful. I'm pleased to see more young people flocking to Christ and more orthodox Christians taking firm stands. "Nice" Christianity is dead.
And we've also identified those who betrayed their flocks with bad advice, whether intentionally or not.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 10:34 AM (ZOv7s)
I think much of the drama swirling around TPUSA has been a well organized and well financed attempt by demonic forces to stage a takeover of the movement after the murder if one of thei greatest enemies, Charlie Kirk.
But as an example of how some good can still result from evil - a whole lot of false prophets have dropped their masks and exposed themselves.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 10:45 AM (k5cxK)
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Every time Trump does something, he gets sued. Who pays the lawyers?
We need a new rule: Whenever a lawsuit is filed the lawyers should disclose who pays them.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 13, 2025 10:46 AM (dct30)
(NOTE: USMA in this instance pronounced "You-Smay")
Posted by: muldoon at December 13, 2025 10:48 AM (/iMjX)
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I agree that nice Christianity is dead. Now we need to put a gun into the hands of every disaffected young man, every young man deprived of companionship by maniac young women, deprived of a career by multiculturalism, and deprived of meaning by toxic femininity.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 13, 2025 10:50 AM (qwx/I)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 13, 2025 10:50 AM (dct30)
212I disagree. There was an effort to bend the popular culture in a Christian direction and it was somewhat successful, but it was undermined by Evangelical leaders who started pushing people to withdraw from "the world" and stop contesting the popular culture.
That example is such a tiny slice of Evangelicalism, it may not even be Evangelicalism.
Lets be clear, while the definition of Evangelicalism is rather amorphous and not homogenous, its core characteristic is Prescient Election (which in itself is heresy). To get there, you need a certain God Is My Co-Pilot sentiment.
Take a look at pretty much any commentary on Galatians 5:22 (Fruit of the Spirit) Evangelicals have Orwelled each and every term into its secular equivalent and have totally abandoned any of the spiritual meaning (which is ironic as it is a spiritual gift).
For example, their definition of "Joy" is indistinguishable from Euphoria. "Patience" is the ability to deal with jerk drivers or someone who is dawdling. Broadly speaking its vibes that can be regulated through psychotropic pharmaceuticals.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 10:50 AM (a4flb)
213I disagree. There was an effort to bend the popular culture in a Christian direction and it was somewhat successful, but it was undermined by Evangelical leaders who started pushing people to withdraw from "the world" and stop contesting the popular culture.
I'm not sure I completely agree with that assessment.
Evangelism has a a fundamental flaw in its assessment of success. It may perhaps be akin to the western mindset that growth is numerical in nature. And while this can be true, it can also be misleading. We are called to go into the world and make disciples, not converts.
So a church that brings 1 parishioner into an ardent walk with Christ has more successfully Evangelized than 100 mega churches that have 1 million members, of which none live out their faith.
The big tent model of the western evangelical church focused more on boutique ecclesiology which reached out to non-Christian lifestyles, often sacrificing the truth in its quest for numbers (and I'm sure in some instances, land holdings and income).
It would be difficult to look at crusades like the Billy Graham ministry and say it had "withdrawn from the world".....
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 10:51 AM (2NGiN)
Sounds like you're somewhat close to the Western Kentucky Parkway. I think Elizabethtown west? Been over 40 years.
One of the prettiest drives I've ever taken. Early April. On the way to Kentucky Lake. There had been an early morning rain but mid-morning and the sun had come out. The redbuds and dogwoods were blooming on the hillsides.
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We have property and a home in WV and take the Martha Lane Pkwy east to get there. It's a beautiful drive in the spring. Sometimes in the fall too. Absolutely sucks during winter tho'.
And, yea... we're not far from E-town. Hate that place.
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Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 10:53 AM (NwnyJ)
215I think much of the drama swirling around TPUSA has been a well organized and well financed attempt by demonic forces to stage a takeover of the movement after the murder if one of their greatest enemies, Charlie Kirk.
No disagreement here.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 10:53 AM (a4flb)
Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 10:53 AM (XuXeR)
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Along that path one can't help but look at these State Religions and see that core to their implementation and success that they must reject or minimalize Election and more from the individual to The Church, such where a Mafioso can kill a competitor while on his way to Mass and there be no conflict.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 10:41 AM (a4flb)
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This is abjectly false. It is true that people pervert teachings to make a false peace with their sins, but there is nothing unique to any particular faith in that respect.
Nor is the use of the Sacraments a wash/rinse/repeat cycle, but instead an iterative path to salvation, inching along by recognizing and removing sin from one's life.
Repeatedly sinning obviates the grace of Reconciliation. Where it works is that you are forced to recognize that you are not using your free will when you sin, but becoming a slave to it, confessing the same things over and over again. Finally, you break the chain, and there is great joy in being free of that compulsion.
There is a 'corporate' aspect to faith because we are not atomized individuals but part of a larger community and our sins affect that community.
218 We are called to go into the world and make disciples, not converts.
Well said. Nothing to add there.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 10:55 AM (a4flb)
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....Instead what it appears to have done is to make "Christian" into a brand rather than a life.
The natural entailment then is to merge popular culture into ever-increasing bastardization of the church. And so we get Christian rap, lesbian pastors, pro-choice congregations and the like.
The evangelical church is often a million members wide, but only an inch of faith deep.
Having participated in many a discussion of "outreach programs" in church board meetings, rarely is it suggested that we "live more piously", but rather most suggestions are hinged on ideas that seem to be more modern or more entertaining.
I'd argue that rather than withdraw itself from society, the western evangelical church movement has sought to adopt and insert itself into society, but not in ways which confirm the church, but rather weaken its principles.
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 10:57 AM (2NGiN)
220The big tent model of the western evangelical church focused more on boutique ecclesiology which reached out to non-Christian lifestyles, often sacrificing the truth in its quest for numbers (and I'm sure in some instances, land holdings and income).
That is a broadside attack of Billy Sunday and Charles Finney.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 10:57 AM (a4flb)
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Being "Personally saved" does nothing for your neighbor, whereas acts of charity and mercy are visible signs of God's love for all to see. The greatest miracle is not healing, or even rising from the dead, but converting another to the faith.
The Church has a richness and depth and knowledge that even now, 19 years after my conversion, I am still struck by the repository of wisdom She contains.
I am also humbled by the examples of John Henry Newman, G.K. Chesterton, Evelyn Waugh and countless others who - often against their will - were drawn to the Church.
I was one of them. A Catholic-insulting jackass, raised to hold the Church in contempt and the last thing anyone ever expected was what actually happened. The people who knew me thought I was faking, or playing a prank or working an angle. Even my grandparents wondered what the "real" story was. Well, except for my mother's mother, who was Catholic, patiently taught me prayers, enforced the requirement on her wayward children and grandchildren that Christmas Mass was mandatory. She knew it would happen and had a very knowing smile when I told her.
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and helped me jealously guard the sourdough starter all the way home! I need to try making that today.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless)
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I've got a batch in process today. Sadly, since Halloween my starter has been sluggish if not downright moribund. I think it looked outside and saw the early winter sky and leafless trees and decided to hibernate. This go round I took some steps to goose it and it got a good vigorous feed. Hope yours turns out well!
Posted by: muldoon at December 13, 2025 11:02 AM (/iMjX)
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It's a beautiful drive in the spring. Sometimes in the fall too. Absolutely sucks during winter tho'."
Seconded. Spring thru there can be just lovely... but winter, from Nashville, Bowling Green, Elizabethtown, off to central WV? Yikes. Have done that twice, glad to have BS Badlands...
Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 11:03 AM (XuXeR)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2025 11:04 AM (XeU6L)
226I'd argue that rather than withdraw itself from society, the western evangelical church movement has sought to adopt and insert itself into society, but not in ways which confirm the church, but rather weaken its principles.
This gets a little weird, but I'm OK with that. As a confirmed believer in the Doctrines of Grace, unlike Finney, no one can manipulate someone's emotions into "Accepting Jesus" - that work is purely by the Paraclete.
So as for the false piety in the American Religion (aka Evangelicalism) I'm OK with that because the LORD will call out his own, and other than many Evangelicals actively hostile at "Calvinists", they are particularly ignorant of Scripture but accepting of the concept of Jesus (even though they engage in the blasphemous What Would Jesus Do vanity virtue theater).
In other words they eschew sound doctrine under the premise of "A Child Like Faith" as being an endorsement of almost total ignorance of doctrines and creeds.
I'm OK with it, because unlike the Left, they aren't trying to kill me and they pretend to be nice and "Christ like" which is a plus for civility and a high trust society.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 11:04 AM (a4flb)
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Scott Pelley of 60 Minutes claims they can’t get people on the show because of the “fear that has spread across the country."
He then praises himself for soldiering on in the face of such immense difficulty.
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Maybe change it to 60 Seconds although, in fairness, I still wouldn't watch.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 11:06 AM (L/fGl)
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It would be difficult to look at crusades like the Billy Graham ministry and say it had "withdrawn from the world".....
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 10:51 AM (2NGiN)
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I was speaking of the early 2000s and teens.
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Christmas music on, but Bing Crosby broke in with his racist slave holding Jingle Bells, now back to Christmas music
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:09 AM (Ia/+0)
231Being "Personally saved" does nothing for your neighbor, whereas acts of charity and mercy are visible signs of God's love for all to see. The greatest miracle is not healing, or even rising from the dead, but converting another to the faith.
This is absolute Gold and is what is missing in our post-modern materialistic world view. What I am greatly appreciating in the ancient faiths is the orientation towards Theosis rather than obtaining the Get Out Of Hell card.
I have a better understanding now of praying to departed Saints and how that is even possible, and the core of that is the assuming, not the essence, but the energy of God which would include Love, which too has been bastardized by Western ethics.
I'm developing on this topic as I exorcise more of the materialistic programming that has been a part of my Church history and tradition.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 11:10 AM (a4flb)
232
Maybe change it to 60 Seconds although, in fairness, I still wouldn't watch.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
I'd love to use a ball peen hammer on that stopwatch!
Posted by: Bang! Ding! Ow! at December 13, 2025 11:14 AM (oftw2)
233Okay, now I'm being compelled to log off by pressing chores. God be with you all!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
*********
Oh, come on. Exercise your free will!
😀
Posted by: muldoon at December 13, 2025 11:15 AM (/iMjX)
234
Amanda Seyfried says “socialism is a gorgeous idea” as she grapples with the current state of America:
"How about we all don’t have any kind of agendas? How about our agenda is take care of each other? I know [socialism] doesn’t work perfectly, or that people understand what the word actually means. For me, it’s taking care of each other. If I have more money, I can spend more money on other people.”
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Well, you're the 1% of the 1% now. Why don't you redistribute some of your wealth this way?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 11:16 AM (L/fGl)
Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 11:17 AM (W7XSX)
237Nor is the use of the Sacraments a wash/rinse/repeat cycle, but instead an iterative path to salvation, inching along by recognizing and removing sin from one's life.
Try to come from the perspective of Election, which is very individualistic - the Book of Life is not a hotel registry where you can walk up and write your name. Abram didn't approach God on his own volition and demand to have the Adamic covenant go through him and his seed.
But a State Religion can not survive in an Election soteriology, so it comes up with an alternative soteriology. You happen to agree with the State Religion version and there is a lot of wisdom in that view particularly in the areas where it intersects with Election.
What I am sensing is that the Reformed faith has departed too far from what you are saying so that there is less and less doctrinal overlap and commonality.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 11:17 AM (a4flb)
238
I have been rereading Jonathan Edwards where he doesn't have the ancient faith vocabulary, but is pretty close to describing in alternate terms much of the Theosis that is core to ancient faiths.
The canvas I am working on takes First Century church doctrines, sees the implementation at scale through ancient faiths, sees what happened up to the Great Schism then watch as East and West refine and syncretize the doctrines to fit in with the Greater Culture.
The nailing of the 95 Thesis to the Wittenburg door was not THE inflection point, for reformation of Rome was going on years before this event. It was inevitable. So I am trying to winnow out the chaff and restore that which has been lost independent of modern and post modern influences and traditions.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 11:24 AM (a4flb)
239
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 11:24 AM (a4flb)
You read Jonathan Edward's? That's great. The only people on here who know of Jonathan Edwards at least from what they have said only know "Sinners in the Hand of Angry God" which they read in high school or college as the example of a terrible Puritan. Since he was the most prolific religious writer of his time period, it's probably not to judge him just on that. He is one of those historical figures whom I have crush on.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 11:54 AM (PFs9e)
240So Mike DeWine, whose father was not a mailman but in spirit the mailman lives on in the Ohio statehouse, now faces a Somalian Scam like "Special" Tim Walz.
It seems the low IQ Somalians in Ohio are smart enough to scam a bunch of money from DeWine's favorite money giveaway programs.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 13, 2025 10:32 AM (oAg81)
DeWine also imported thousands of Haitians and dumped them on the hard-luck city of Springfield: somewhere around 20,000 dumped on a city of 60,000.
No way that's going to distort housing and social costs, and cost Americans jobs. /s
The Haitians promptly ate the ducks at the public parks; residents were complaining that household pets were also eaten. There were at least two deaths (a child on a school bus, and an old lady taking a trash can to the curb) due Haitians driving like maniacs.
DeWine is one of those Christians that seems to have more compassion for the poor if they were born in a foreign country, rather than born in the U.S.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 13, 2025 01:54 PM (pJWtt)
Daily Tech News 13 December 2025
Top Story
In April, District Court Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers ruled that Apple had wilfully violated her 2021 order to open up the App Store.
The Steam Machine isn't out yet, but the specs are public and they're very close to an existing AMD CPU and GPU so it is possible to build an equivalent system and test performance right now.
On indie titles like Hollow Knight: Silksong it delivers 4k at 120Hz, or close to it. That's not a particularly demanding title so it's not a huge surprise.
On big-budget titles like Baldur's Gate 3, Cyberpunk 2077, Elden Ring, and Monster Hunter Wilds you can expect 60Hz at 1440p, but at 4k only two of these titles achieved a consistent 60Hz.
And this is with graphical settings and upscaling tweaked appropriately, not with everything simply set to maximum quality. But this is not a high-end system, and isn't expected to have a high-end price. It's supposed to just work.
Will I buy one when it comes out? Maybe. Depends on the price. I just picked up that mini-PC with a faster CPU (though a slower GPU) and a lot more memory for around $600, so it would have to compare well with that.
Edit: Now that I compare those benchmark scores, the Steam Deck Machine doesn't offer me that much. The processor on my new mini-PC is 39% faster and the graphics 36% slower than the Steam Machine, and it has 64GB of shared memory rather than 16GB plus 8GB of DRAM. Since I also have a full desktop system and an Xbox (gathering dust) I think I'm good.
That doesn't seem too bad given that retail prices have increased by around 300% in the past couple of months.
Pre-built laptops and the Framework Desktop which comes with up to 128GB of RAM have not increased in price, nor have prices changed for existing pre-orders.
Needed to wait for it to rain to break up the ground where I planned this - it had been dry for a while and the soil was rock hard - and then wait for it to stop raining to get some supplies delivered. Then it rained again and that ground got covered in weeds.
So today I pulled out all those weeds, dug out some regular grass which I didn't want growing into this area, dug out some patches of native tussock-grass which is not technically a weed but which I also didn't want there, dug in some gypsum to help break up the soil and some potting mix tailored for native plants to improve it, and then dug eleven holes (hitting rocks several times and on two occasions large metal staples left behind by the builders), filled those holes with more potting mix, and planted everything but those kangaroo paws, which will go in another part of the garden.
Which will all look great in a year or so as it grows in but right now, ouch.
Need to go back and cover it with bark chips, but that will definitely be another day.
Apple Bacon Interlude
Turns out that bacon-flavoured apples taste bad. Who knew?
Musical Interlude
Song is King by Kanaria, covered by Hololive's Mori Calliope and Gawr Gura. Gura wasn't the most technically skilled vocalist in Hololive (she now streams independently but still as a fish, having found her niche there) but she has a way of putting her emotions into a song that makes her stand out.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 04:03 AM (+YRf1)
4
Maybe it's the caching logic. I could see your comment, then it disappeared, then when I poked it reappeared.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at December 13, 2025 04:04 AM (BLOW1)
5
>>>Which will all look great in a year or so as it grows in
Yay!
Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 04:05 AM (RuTUS)
6
4 Maybe it's the caching logic. I could see your comment, then it disappeared, then when I poked it reappeared.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at December 13, 2025 04:04 AM (BLOW1)
And it "knew" my comment was there, because I'm still FIRST.
Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 04:07 AM (RuTUS)
Pixy, if you have a moment to spare, I'm told Miklos has inadvertently gotten himself banned impersonating the troll raimondo again.
Miklos's hash is (N7hqt), if that helps.
Thanks for anything you can do.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 13, 2025 04:07 AM (z5QST)
8
You know what tastes fantastic? My apple bacon onion jam. Don't fuck with the apples, cook with them.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 13, 2025 04:10 AM (6Bc88)
9
In case anyone missed it: In the righthand sidebar, in the post about Megyn/Candace, the second stretch of red-highlighted text ("Candace Owens says") links to a video of a woman (I don't know who) mocking Megyn Kelly's failing to hear anything negative that Candace Owens says. I think it's very well-done.
Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 04:12 AM (RuTUS)
10
Just reading the gardening prep and planting routine made my back and shoulders sore. There can be a lot of satisfaction in gardening. But I sure don’t find it in weeding.
Especially when you can use power tools. And chemicals.
Good morning horde.
Posted by: Pete Bog at December 13, 2025 04:15 AM (EU9xD)
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 04:29 AM (rdVOm)
14 bad news: dickhead van dyke, who is a pervert shill for the Democrat party, made it to 100
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 13, 2025 04:30 AM (zlW+y)
15 Incidentally, in Australia, he's known as Dyke Von Dick, because everything is backwards there.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Amusing International Facts at December 13, 2025 04:32 AM (zlW+y)
16
Back to the Somalis. We know they are illegal more ways than one. A C-5 Galaxy set up as air bus will carry 270 passengers. Five Galaxy's is 1350 people.
Round them up at night, fly them to Somalia and leave. Let the judges argue in court why they should come back. One at a time.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 04:38 AM (OfmEX)
17 lolnvidia: "To put a number on it, the rumor mill is pointing towards the RTX 6090 having at least a 40% uplift in performance over the RTX 5090, along with the watts being pumped through it going up again in excess of 600W."
Sure. I believe the watts parts.
So all the rumor-mongers have been wrong about the 50-eries "super" models, and now they'll be wrong about the 60-series, which we probably won't see, (my guess), for another 2 years, October '27.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Amusing International Facts at December 13, 2025 04:40 AM (zlW+y)
1.1. INTRODUCTION: THERMODYNAMICS AND STATISTICAL MECHANICS OF THE PERFECT GAS
Ludwig Boltzmann, who spent much of his life studying statistical mechanics, died in 1906, by his own hand. Paul Ehrenfest, carrying on the work, died similarly in 1933. Now it is our turn to study statistical mechanics.
Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 04:43 AM (RuTUS)
19
This happened in Paris . Flashmob turns up to sing "Carol of the Bells. " Maybe there is hope for them yet:
https://tinyurl.com/2bw2he6p
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 04:45 AM (PFs9e)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 13, 2025 04:47 AM (tljrc)
21
G'Day everyone
If I didn't stay up a hour later I would have been on time
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 04:48 AM (Ia/+0)
22 Skip, I don't know how you do it. Getting up in the middle of the night on days you don't have to.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Amusing International Facts at December 13, 2025 04:50 AM (zlW+y)
23
Joy and strength in the Lord. Nehemiah 8:5-6, 8-12:
https://tinyurl.com/56pc48tw
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 04:52 AM (PFs9e)
24
What's happening to Germany should be a lesson to us but I doubt that the middlings are aware and the one's who are don't understand how close we are.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 04:55 AM (OfmEX)
25 Mr. Coffee machine killed the Percolator.
And that marked the beginning of the downfall of the USA...
Clearly a plot devised by the Kremlin, Mr. Coffee debuted in 1972 and quickly became a huge hit. Here is former Baseball player Joe Dimaggio, obviously a Soviet agent, in a TV ad for the commie coffee maker in 1974:
https://is.gd/Q3Ydzy
Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 13, 2025 05:00 AM (zlW+y)
26
Actually last night didn't get up once, that is very rare
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 05:01 AM (Ia/+0)
27
Plants bring a house to life. Before you know it you will have a wonderful view.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 05:01 AM (OfmEX)
28
I still do percolator every day, big pot today. Have a small one that makes not much more than my big cup, 24 Oz I think
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 05:04 AM (Ia/+0)
29
To me, hands down, at this time, the most sensible US news-oriented twitter account is
@bonchieredstate
He's got a top research team checking everything before it gets posted, is my guess.
Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 05:13 AM (RuTUS)
30
Bizarre Tik Tok trend using ChapGPT encourages a young woman to commit suicide. Maybe it's a really , really bad idea to use Chap GPT and " talk to the devil. " From NY Post:
https://tinyurl.com/5n8paum8
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 05:14 AM (rZCVI)
31 We have several bottlebrushes in our little garden. Bees and hummingbirds love them.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 05:17 AM (tgvbd)
32 Ludwig Boltzmann, who spent much of his life studying statistical mechanics, died in 1906, by his own hand. Paul Ehrenfest, carrying on the work, died similarly in 1933. Now it is our turn to study statistical mechanics.
Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 04:43 AM (RuTUS)
_________
I studied Stat Thermo for my P Chem course and I frequently wanted to kill myself. Because I'm no mathematician.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 05:21 AM (tgvbd)
33
Turns out that bacon-flavoured apples taste bad. Who knew?
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I refuse to believe this.
34
I think my parents had the GE Avocado green complete set of 3 appliances, toaster, percolator and combo can opener, knife sharpening & kitty cat attractor.
One problem with the Mr. Coffee style, with the water reservoir is hard water will build up scale and sediment over time. This very gradually lowers the water temperature that can be achieved and the coffee isn’t very good. The manufacturers recommend running vinegar through periodically but I could never see any results with that. A pour through does make a tastier cup.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 05:35 AM (ebWKH)
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 05:40 AM (Ia/+0)
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Good morning! I bet that backyard is gonna be great, PM. Any day working in the garden or doing landscape work is better that the best day at the office.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 13, 2025 05:44 AM (3Ope8)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 13, 2025 05:53 AM (xG4kz)
41
Frankenstein apples. What's wrong with an apple-flavored apple?
These next-gen mad scientists are dabbling in the black arts.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 13, 2025 05:54 AM (1zOXE)
42
Evening and morning, Saturday toilers and early risers! * Blinks * * Blinks again * Eleven days to Christmas Eve. How'd it get to be so late already?
Miss LInda is getting over her cold, I think. I haven't caught anything -- yet. I'm awake, partly, drinking my coffee, and trying to shift the furry thugs' feeding time down the line a bit so Stirling won't be inclined to wake me at four am.
Whassup?
("Kangaroo paws"? Got to follow Pixy's link)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 06:00 AM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at December 13, 2025 06:03 AM (cxFcK)
44One problem with the Mr. Coffee style, with the water reservoir is hard water will build up scale and sediment over time. This very gradually lowers the water temperature that can be achieved and the coffee isn’t very good. The manufacturers recommend running vinegar through periodically but I could never see any results with that. A pour through does make a tastier cup.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025
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I do the vinegar run-through when my Braun coffeemaker turns on the "Clean" light. A half-pot of white vinegar, then two full pots of fresh water. I like being able to set the whole thing up the night before. Then I get up, turn the coffee on, stumble back to the head, and when I return the coffee is ready to pour.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 06:03 AM (wzUl9)
45
I can't see a ban against Miklos's most recent IP address, so I'm not sure what happened there.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at December 13, 2025 04:21 AM (BLOW1
Thanks for checking. Sorry for the goose chase.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 13, 2025 06:04 AM (+n72I)
46Turns out that bacon-flavoured apples taste bad. Who knew?
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that, if the apple tastes bad, it doesn't taste like bacon.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 13, 2025 06:04 AM (ExV1e)
47
The Vermont Country Store still offers a coffee percolator. I've considered getting one.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 06:05 AM (wzUl9)
48bad news: dickhead van dyke, who is a pervert shill for the Democrat party, made it to 100
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 13, 2025 04:30 AM (zlW+y)
https://youtu.be/Crif5E67ar0
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 13, 2025 06:06 AM (ExV1e)
AG retweeted
@aghamilton29
Blue Georgia
@BlueATLGeorgia
Nov 8
Bill Maher: "Tucker Carlson was like the old-school country-club Republican. Then he became the world’s oldest Groyper — having on Holocaust deniers and asking, 'Who do you think were the good guys in World War II?' So now he had on this Nick Fuentes guy, and never challenged him."
Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 06:10 AM (RuTUS)
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Tucker is chasing the dragon. He's well off enough to just retire and enjoy life but there's a nagging hole in his soul driving him to be a force in this world. I used to listen to this dude but he's gone around the bend and I could give two fucks about any of his mindthoughts.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 13, 2025 06:16 AM (1zOXE)
54
Yeah, I penciled out the cost and hassle of all that vinegar, it’s cheaper to chuck the damn thing out and buy a new one.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 06:22 AM (ebWKH)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 13, 2025 06:23 AM (Cjt/F)
56
These federal judges are out of control! Who do they think we are, Trump? Go piss up a rope Judge, we got all your pictures...nice family you got there. Be a shame, ya know?
Posted by: Apple, Inc. at December 13, 2025 06:24 AM (R/m4+)
57
The word is out there Marxists want the country flooded with 3rd world people.
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 06:27 AM (Ia/+0)
58
Reg’ler Sherlock Holmes they are, they cracked the code! Extraordinary.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 06:29 AM (ebWKH)
59 The word is out there Marxists want the country flooded with 3rd world people.
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 06:27 AM (Ia/+0)
I sometimes wonder if it was an act of actual malevolence (we want to replace our native population) or just another left-wing cock-up. I mean, you could, if you were so inclined, think the Left took that "all cultures are equal" stuff seriously, combined with a total lack of understanding of the existing culture in this country.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 06:32 AM (tgvbd)
60
Lookin like we're heading for some cold wind outta the north and some much cooler temps later on today. Gah! Better break out the blankets for the patio.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 13, 2025 06:33 AM (3Ope8)
61 I loved both Statistical Mechanics and Thermodynamics, up to a point. As both were an integral part of a year-long Physical Chemistry course, they were integral parts of the virtual threshing machine that separated those who could hack it and those who could not.
Our class was almost all Chemistry majors and Chemical Engineering majors. The ChemE majors dreaded this class, so much so that I came to believe that the "duh duh duhhhh!" sound effect ought to be a mandatory teaching "aid" for the curriculum:
https://youtu.be/_zrMykBnidM
As for the instructor, Dr. Leslie Leifer, he was a curmudgeonly legend in his own right. Perhaps my favorite moment in the year happened right near the start. We were taking our first exam. During it, Dr. Leifer, who rocked a pair of coke bottle bottom eyeglasses, stopped at the desk of my roommate and asked him, "Are you in this class?" As if someone would simply drop in to have a go at a P Chem exam for shits and grins! I still laugh at the absurdity of that question.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 13, 2025 06:36 AM (xG4kz)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 13, 2025 06:40 AM (xG4kz)
63
It doesn't take much hardware by today's standards to do 4K@60Hz. That is, if you don't what looks like an upscaled PS1 game. without a specific game in mind it's a meaningless question.
Posted by: Epobirs at December 13, 2025 06:41 AM (/0z9K)
64
I sometimes wonder if it was an act of actual malevolence
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Don’t. They have explained themselves for decades, what they wanted to do, what they were going to do, and why. Malice aforethought.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 06:41 AM (ebWKH)
65 The word is out there Marxists want the country flooded with 3rd world people.
Posted by: Skip
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I sometimes wonder if it was an act of actual malevolence (we want to replace our native population) or just another left-wing cock-up. I mean, you could, if you were so inclined, think the Left took that "all cultures are equal" stuff seriously, combined with a total lack of understanding of the existing culture in this country.
Posted by: Hadrian
It's easy to look at them as though they are ignorami. I belive they honesty are stupid enough, but the hatred and evil inside them and loathing of America as founded are what cause them to do what they do.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 13, 2025 06:43 AM (QVmho)
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 06:49 AM (Ia/+0)
68 "I am Professor Harris. I work with systems where the number of particles is..." ( writes this on the chalkboard ) "... zero or one. If you want to work with systems to two or more particles, go sign up for Professor Miller's course."
-- actual "welcome to this class" statement from the UC Berkeley Chemistry graduate program in the autumn of 1976. It was a world apart.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 13, 2025 06:49 AM (xG4kz)
69Flying Down to Rio, the first pairing of Ginger Rogers and Fred Astaire, is on Movies! right now. The startling thing is that neither is the actual lead. An actor named Gene Raymond plays a pilot (thus the "flying" part of the title). I swear he sounds *exactly* like Jason Alexander!
Every time I hear his voice in this film, I think, "What is George Costanza doing in a 1933 musical . . .?"
I only know Raymond from his guest turn on a Man From U.N.C.L.E. years later.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 06:49 AM (wzUl9)
70
I am hoping to get outside asap to do some metallurgy
It's in the 20s but still Air now
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 06:50 AM (Ia/+0)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 06:52 AM (9ipOP)
72 I sometimes wonder if it was an act of actual malevolence (we want to replace our native population) or just another left-wing cock-up.
There is a substantial component of mental illness involved, else why would white people wander about and curse the existence of white people? Self-awareness approaching "zero", right there!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 13, 2025 06:53 AM (xG4kz)
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 06:58 AM (Ia/+0)
79
I think Tucker is right (hold on a second!) when he said, the other day, words to the effect of: if you disagree with how I handle a podcast guest, do your own podcast. He's intentionally not asking some questions, and he's intentionally "just asking" some other questions. Some of these choices look like revenge against the MSM and sour grapes about his being kicked out of the MSM. His audience likes what he does.
Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 07:00 AM (RuTUS)
80
Cotton candy grapes are pretty good. Not through artificial flavors but through genetics somehow.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 07:01 AM (luNjk)
81 Tucker has reverted to being the smarmy kid in grade school whose face was badly in need of a fist. His girlish glee at Ted Cruz not knowing the population of Iran was evidence enough for me to drop him to the bottom of my "listen to this" list.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 13, 2025 07:04 AM (xG4kz)
82
I'm seeing 60 F. here, expected high today in the '70s (ugh). It's true that conditions like this mean I need to run neither the A/C nor the heat; my power bill will look nice next month. But it *feels* nothing like December!
I'll run out today to feed the car, have my hair cut (all of them) and give my barber his Xmas present, pay my Internet bill, and maybe visit the library. Linda never says anything, but I'd like to think she's amazed at how I fast I can move and get errands done in a morning. It's easy out in the western suburbs, though, a big street grid. I'd hate to deal with it all in the city proper.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 07:05 AM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Plants love it. at December 13, 2025 07:08 AM (2Ez/1)
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81
Tucker has reverted to being the smarmy kid in grade school whose face was badly in need of a fist. His girlish glee at Ted Cruz not knowing the population of Iran was evidence enough for me to drop him to the bottom of my "listen to this" list.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 13, 2025 07:04 AM (xG4kz)
I'll go find that Ted Cruz thing. Meanwhile: A long-ago friend told a story about going to a kind of early speech-masters talk, live, where the speaker got really haughty and said, I think there's probably not anything you could ask me that I couldn't answer. And the guy I knew shot off, "What's the square root of [some random number]?"
Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 07:09 AM (RuTUS)
85
There was a restaurant here that had a great salad with a sweet vinaigrette dressing that was emulsified with bacon grease. And they always gave you two warm buttery croissants on top. I think Covid killed them.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 07:09 AM (luNjk)
88There was a restaurant here that had a great salad with a sweet vinaigrette dressing that was emulsified with bacon grease. And they always gave you two warm buttery croissants on top. I think Covid killed them.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025
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My morning chow included two mini-croissants, oven-toasted for a bit, with some butter and honey, along with two scrambled seasoned eggs.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 07:10 AM (wzUl9)
89
Later today I'm taking Boy F. to a Christmas party where he and 50 other Tylenol-Americans will dance like whirling dervishes for 2 hours then gorge on pizza. It is a sight to behold.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 07:11 AM (A0sqA)
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89 Later today I'm taking Boy F. to a Christmas party where he and 50 other Tylenol-Americans will dance like whirling dervishes for 2 hours then gorge on pizza. It is a sight to behold.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 07:11 AM (A0sqA)
Yay!
Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 07:12 AM (RuTUS)
Jun 18, 2025 — "I don't sit around memorising population tables," said Cruz. "They have 92 million people," Carlson responded.
Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 07:12 AM (RuTUS)
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It’s 36 here now but will get colder and by Monday be in the teens.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 07:13 AM (luNjk)
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When you grow up living a prep-school, bowtie wearing preppie childhood, having never been in a fistfight, don't be surprised if your street cred is mocked and ridiculed.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 13, 2025 07:13 AM (1zOXE)
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Fat is flavor.
Posted by: As any chef can tell you at December 13, 2025 07:12 AM (2Ez/1)
Coming soon...Lizzo Apples.
About Damn Time!
Posted by: Lizzo at December 13, 2025 07:14 AM (R/m4+)
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Kathy Griffin says Trump is disgusting to look at. This is something coming from a baboon colony one. Medusa took a look at KG and her hair fell out.
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 07:14 AM (vFG9F)
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Neo has a video take down of Tucker lying about Ted Cruz
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:15 AM (Ia/+0)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 13, 2025 07:21 AM (Cjt/F)
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"86 mornin yall. Shideh Poormoghaddam.
Posted by: Guy who always says at December 13, 2025 07:09 AM"
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Ok, I was wondering if this was some sort of Yiddish greeting so I naturally decided to ask Al Gore's Amazing Internet.
Turns out to be some flavor of female in trouble with the local constabulary:
https://tinyurl.com/mr25ts7h
Posted by: Person unafraid to ask Al Gore's Amazing Internet at December 13, 2025 07:22 AM (2Ez/1)
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>>>As if Tucker Carlson knew the population of Iran before looking it up on Wiki in preparation for the interview with Cruz.
Posted by: one hour sober
>Silly. As if Cruz is the General spearheading the operation. Cruz is a legislator approving or not approving action. Roles, people. Know your fucking role.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 13, 2025 07:23 AM (1zOXE)
29F this morning. Supposed to drop to 7F tonight and only get into the low teens tomorrow. Monday morning will be bitterly cold. Just above, or below 0F.
Add in the wind Sunday and it will "feel like" below zero.
And it's not even winter yet.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 07:24 AM (NwnyJ)
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My Christmas wish is that little fag that murdered Charlie Kirk gets his smirk kicked down his gayass throat.
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 07:24 AM (vFG9F)
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"Turns out to be some flavor of female in trouble with the local constabulary:"
I just like saying "Poormoghaddam".
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 07:26 AM (vFG9F)
Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2025 07:27 AM (u82oZ)
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You just know they have to keep him in a solitary cell, and with all sorts of extra-special (read: expensive) procedures every day. Otherwise he’d get shanked or set on fire within about 10 minutes. It is to laugh.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 07:29 AM (d6jY2)
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I think Poormoghaddam was the name of some minor character in a Tolkien novel, possibly a chambermaid. But this isn't the book thread.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 13, 2025 07:29 AM (2Ez/1)
Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 07:35 AM (W7XSX)
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"I think Poormoghaddam was the name of some minor character in a Tolkien novel, possibly a chambermaid. But this isn't the book thread.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty
She was cut from "The Silmarillion" her third DUI.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 13, 2025 07:40 AM (OTdqV)
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The heat wave of temps above freezing is going away later this afternoon.
Kills chiggers and other bad insects, so I'll take that trade,
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2025 07:43 AM (u82oZ)
127I studied Stat Thermo for my P Chem course and I frequently wanted to run away and join the US Navy. Because I'm no mathematician.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2025 07:34 AM (u82oZ)
And then you ran away and joined the US Navy.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 13, 2025 07:44 AM (ExV1e)
Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 07:47 AM (W7XSX)
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May you be thriving with someone that has some body heat to share.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2025 07:44 AM (u82oZ)
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We are dogsitting our cousin's cavapoo who is a major cuddler so there's that.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 07:47 AM (A0sqA)
133 I studied Stat Thermo for my P Chem course and I frequently wanted to run away and join the US Navy. Because I'm no mathematician.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2025 07:34 AM (u82oZ)
I went to a small college. My second semester of P Chem, where we had Stat Thermo, I was one of two people in the class. And if the other guy didn't show up, I got the full lecture anyway.
The other guy was your basic C student who graduated without any great distinction. But the professor wasn't hard on him, he was hard on me.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 07:47 AM (tgvbd)
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:49 AM (Ia/+0)
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One of the reasons Tucker was so adversarial with Ted Cruz is because his Qatari paymasters have targeted Cruz and Tom Cotton as influential Christian supporters of Israel
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 07:50 AM (A0sqA)
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It's supposed to be 68 here today but I will be ok because I just got some new thermal underwear.
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 07:51 AM (vFG9F)
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 08:05 AM (sDNVV)
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Kathy Griffin says Trump is disgusting to look at. This is something coming from a baboon colony one. Medusa took a look at KG and her hair fell out.
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She obviously doesn't own a mirror. I can't say I blame her because I've seen a recent picture of her extolling her happiness at her 4th? facelift. She looked appalling. Not that she was ever the least bit attractive, because she's never been. But she looked so, so terrible. Like an alien freak. Perhaps that's why she's always such an angry lunatic. If I looked like that, maybe I would be too...if I didn't jump out of a 10-story window beforehand just to make that mirror reflection go away.
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 13, 2025 08:05 AM (qBdHI)
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Don't the koalas and the 'roos munch on all those native plants? Is planting them an exercise in futility?
Posted by: Deer munching On Expensive Shrubbery at December 13, 2025 08:05 AM (oftw2)
150One of the reasons Tucker was so adversarial with Ted Cruz is because his Qatari paymasters have targeted Cruz and Tom Cotton as influential Christian supporters of Israel]]
I can believe that.
Ted Cruz doesn't represent Texas, he represents the best interests of Ted Cruz. If Quatar would outbid AIPAC, then Cruz and Carlson would be friends.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 08:07 AM (a4flb)
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@147/Ben Had: I always just took them to the kitchen sink, got the playable side wet with warm water, then put a bit of dishwashing solution on them, and very gently in small circles worked that in over the playable area, then rinse thoroughly and pat dry with a soft towel.
Let it dry for a while longer to the air, and (if it was just smudges) then you should be fine.
If it's scratches, you need a CD/DVD resurfacer.
Lastly, if it's the reflective layer that's starting to break up, there's no fixing that.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 13, 2025 08:07 AM (O7YUW)
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This cold spell hits most of the country and Sunday and Monday are the cold days. Snow in the same areas recently hit with snow. It does move on through and you get a warming trend through Christmas. You should watch Ryan Hall
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 13, 2025 08:07 AM (+mUZM)
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Obviously you want non-abrasive dish-washing solution. I use Sunlight. Dawn should work nicely.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 13, 2025 08:09 AM (O7YUW)
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If all else fails, slap hot iron to it and find another copy.
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 08:10 AM (vFG9F)
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>>>She obviously doesn't own a mirror. I can't say I blame her because I've seen a recent picture of her extolling her happiness at her 4th? facelift. She looked appalling. Not that she was ever the least bit attractive, because she's never been. But she looked so, so terrible. Like an alien freak. Perhaps that's why she's always such an angry lunatic. If I looked like that, maybe I would be too...if I didn't jump out of a 10-story window beforehand just to make that mirror reflection go away.
Posted by: Lady in Black
>Full confession: I've never seen the back side of Carrot Top's nutsack, but I imagine that Kathy Griffin's face resembles a gooch and testicle pouch deprived of decades of sunlight.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 13, 2025 08:12 AM (1zOXE)
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Speaking of hot iron, I ran across this in my readings:
"There is also many a bold spirit among the Aarab, of men and women, that being hurt, snatching a brand from the hearth, will sear his wounded flesh, till the fire be quenched in the suffering fibre : and they can endure pain (necessitous persons, whose livelihood is as a long punishment,) with constant fortitude"
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 08:13 AM (vFG9F)
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The hot iron thing reminds me of the scene in Braveheart
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 08:16 AM (sDNVV)
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Later today I'm taking Boy F. to a Christmas party where he and 50 other Tylenol-Americans will dance like whirling dervishes for 2 hours then gorge on pizza. It is a sight to behold.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 07:11 AM (A0sqA)
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I love your sense of humor. I hope your son has a wonderful time at the party.
Today is a big cookie baking day for me, with maybe a bit of gift wrapping thrown in. I'm looking forward to it.
Posted by: bluebell at December 13, 2025 08:18 AM (79pEw)
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142 I have a Blu-Ray DVD of a favorite film. Apparently, I wore it out. There is a place in the story that it freezes and skips over.
Nothing can be done to repair it.
Posted by: no one
Maybe Debbie just wants out of Dallas.
Posted by: Film-Flam at December 13, 2025 08:19 AM (oftw2)
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Kathy Griffin is a stupid person. What a stupid thing to say.
She is really stupid.
Posted by: Case at December 13, 2025 08:21 AM (G1OIb)
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I had a bunch of CDs that were subject to a flood in the barracks in Korea, I happened to be on leave out of country, they did not fare well in the ordeal.
The aluminium substrate suffered “pinholes” and these strange looking squiggly line voids, almost like a type of critter that eats metal. Edison cylinders and vinyl LP will still be rockin’ after the last CD has rotted away.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 08:22 AM (d6jY2)
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Ted Cruz doesn't represent Texas, he represents the best interests of Ted Cruz. If Quatar would outbid AIPAC, then Cruz and Carlson would be friends.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 08:07 AM (a4flb)
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That gives new depth of meaning to "cynicism"
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 08:23 AM (A0sqA)
The cavapoo and the boy are now snoring on the couch.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 08:25 AM (A0sqA)
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151 @147/Ben Had: I always just took them to the kitchen sink, got the playable side wet with warm water, then put a bit of dishwashing solution on them, and very gently in small circles worked that in over the playable area, then rinse thoroughly and pat dry with a soft towel.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 13, 2025 08:07 AM
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You mean like with a cloth?
Posted by: Old Lady Rodham at December 13, 2025 08:25 AM (2Ez/1)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 08:27 AM (A0sqA)
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97 Neo has a video take down of Tucker lying about Ted Cruz
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:15 AM (Ia/+0)
I don't see that on thenewneo.com, Skip.
I'll keep looking!
Her three-part essay on Tucker is worth reading, from this list:
108 here's a listing of newneo entries on Tucker:
https://thenewneo.com/?s=tucker
Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 07:26 AM (RuTUS)
Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 11:20 AM (RuTUS)
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"Can the Steam Machine really run games at 4k 60Hz as Valve claims?"
AAA sucks ass at optimizing things and has gotten lazy, assuming hardware will handle it. If they have a benchmark to design to it will help. I think Valve will eventually succeed here even if they have a headwind dealing with the console players that are basically incapable of dealing with system settings and will just run whatever out of the box.
For me - I can't guarantee hitting 60hz at 4k with my carefully built $3500 gaming rig, at least on max settings, so people will have some things to figure out to make this work.
Posted by: heya at December 13, 2025 02:10 PM (gbaE1)
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my cute little friend who is studying japanese translated the characters emblazoned across my long sleeve power puff girls t- shirt. she says it says "girl puff." now i know.
Posted by: cmeat at December 13, 2025 04:58 PM (R11M+)
Thanks For The Memories
Welcome to Friday, Morons. Let's start with some good advice:
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11 Hey WD! Do you work in the Healthcare Insurance industry? If so I have some questions on where I can find a good policy.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 10:09 PM (ynpvh)
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How's your car warranty? Our records show that it's about to expire.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2025 10:11 PM (dyewR)
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Time Travel: Just say no to Wikpedia lies
Partner: Naw, got a real one
Money is tempting, but I question the genie's definitions - maybe I _only_ get enough to sit and bask in the sun.
Health works and can be shared. I'll take it.
Posted by: RandomDave at December 12, 2025 10:12 PM (aJQbY)
Posted by: County Corker at December 12, 2025 10:17 PM (oftw2)
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I don't know if anyone has mentioned this today, but 40 years ago on this day, 248 Soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division perished when their chartered plane crashed upon takeoff at Gander Airport in Newfoundland.
They were on their way home from a peacekeeping mission in the Sinai peninsula. Their families were gathered together for a welcome home reception at Ft. Campbell when they got the tragic news.
Memorial ceremony at Ft. Campbell today:
https://tinyurl.com/3c7csdpt
Here's a link to the investigation:
https://tinyurl.com/2jp6jn6u
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at December 12, 2025 10:18 PM (22p5n)
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Back from a lovely dinner with Mrs. Meta. I mistakenly left my office door open, and my Chiweenie pup decided to drag the entire contents of an accordion folder into the family room whence she proceeded to impersonate an industrial shredder.
Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 12, 2025 10:18 PM (GTqXr)
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Those poor Canucks look so sad in that meme. Is it really that bleak?
Posted by: USA #1! at December 12, 2025 10:19 PM (oftw2)
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14 11 Hey WD! Do you work in the Healthcare Insurance industry? If so I have some questions on where I can find a good policy.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 10:09 PM (ynpvh)
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How's your car warranty? Our records show that it's about to expire.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2025 10:11 PM (dyewR)
Hah, your records are dead wrong; they expired a Looong time ago.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 10:20 PM (ynpvh)
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24 Back from a lovely dinner with Mrs. Meta. I mistakenly left my office door open, and my Chiweenie pup decided to drag the entire contents of an accordion folder into the family room whence she proceeded to impersonate an industrial shredder.
Posted by: Heavy Meta
Hopefully, just birth certificates, passports, and cash money.
Posted by: Keep On the Sunny Side at December 12, 2025 10:21 PM (oftw2)
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>25 Those poor Canucks look so sad in that meme. Is it really that bleak?
Posted by: USA #1! at December 12, 2025 10:19 PM (oftw2)
Say friend, feeling sad? Have you considered medically assisted suicide? It's free!
Your friends at the NIH.
Posted by: Canuckistan Health Service at December 12, 2025 10:21 PM (GTqXr)
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And Scardy cat had the most impressive reaction I think I've ever seen, AI or real.
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What the guys in the top pick need are rifles that can shoot the caliber of those big-a** beads around their necks. THAT would be some zen I would like to see.
Posted by: GWB at December 12, 2025 10:22 PM (GPiBi)
31My grandma used to say, a apple a day keeps the doctor away. I'm not sure if its true or if its one of granny's myths.
Posted by: Muchas buchas at December 12, 2025 10:16 PM (CDX35)
It is better than scurvy.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 10:23 PM (rbvCR)
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Worst part of the folgers commercial was the folgers.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 12, 2025 10:23 PM (snZF9)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 10:08 PM (zZu0s)
If my wife were still alive I might go for Health so I could spend the next century with her...then again, when I die I might, but in a different context.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 10:23 PM (ynpvh)
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29 And Scardy cat had the most impressive reaction I think I've ever seen, AI or real.
Posted by: mindful webworker - well, that was unexpected at December 12, 2025 10:22 PM (lbDMw)
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Can I interest you in 500 videos of porch pirates getting their just desserts?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2025 10:24 PM (dyewR)
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>Hopefully, just birth certificates, passports, and cash money.
Posted by: Keep On the Sunny Side at December 12, 2025 10:21 PM (oftw2)
Nothing I don't have digitized copies for. She was very proud of herself.
Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 12, 2025 10:24 PM (GTqXr)
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31 My grandma used to say, a apple a day keeps the doctor away. I'm not sure if its true or if its one of granny's myths.
Posted by: Muchas buchas at December 12, 2025 10:16 PM (CDX35)
It is better than scurvy.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 10:23 PM (rbvCR)
I knew somebody who said, "Eat an apple, make a turd." Maybe not as poetic...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 10:24 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Nicholas Angel at December 12, 2025 10:25 PM (mlg/3)
If you took money to let the swan it, would you have taken a swan dive? Would it end up being your swan song?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 10:26 PM (ynpvh)
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The Money option: are we assuming that we can't earn more money than to live 'medioarcheardyahdyllly'?
Posted by: Nicholas Angel at December 12, 2025 10:27 PM (mlg/3)
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I don't know if anyone has mentioned this today, but 40 years ago on this day, 248 Soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division perished when their chartered plane crashed upon takeoff at Gander Airport in Newfoundland.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at December 12, 2025 10:18 PM (22p5n)
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I remember this vividly. I was living with my grandparents when it happened, and they watched the news while eating dinner. As soon as the story broke, my grandfather got up and walked right up to the TV. I was about to say something, but my grandmother gave me a death stare and I froze.
My grandfather sat back down and said that he flew out of Gander during the war, and there were times when landings were very difficult. Very quiet meal.
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I'm really not usually squeamish, but I just couldn't bring myself to watch the burp cam bit. I think I was put off just from seeing her with that line dangling from her nostril.
Posted by: Zeera , Damn Right I voted for all of this! at December 12, 2025 10:29 PM (jvxGE)
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Teresa: still praying for you. God bless you! And Merry Christmas!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 12, 2025 10:30 PM (dhHpw)
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Those poor Canucks look so sad in that meme. Is it really that bleak?
Posted by: USA #1! at December 12, 2025 10:19 PM (oftw2)
Well, not for.16,000 of them this year.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 10:30 PM (2WIwB)
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Wow, SMH, I don't remember that crash at all. How awful. 248 soldiers, how could I have forgotten?
Posted by: Sad Anniversary, RIP at December 12, 2025 10:30 PM (oftw2)
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The Time Travel option seems to mean you would know the stock prices of all the Dow30. So that would mean more money than just 'mediocracyrhdfhauihally.'
So Time Travel obviously.
Posted by: Nicholas Angel at December 12, 2025 10:30 PM (mlg/3)
50Hey WD! Do you work in the Healthcare Insurance industry? If so I have some questions on where I can find a good policy.
I do. Send me an email(my nic at gee, mail!) and I'd be happy to help.
Posted by: Weirddave at December 12, 2025 10:31 PM (df/te)
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44 I just ordered my bags of Buc-ees nuggets for the stockings.
Mmmmmm!!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 10:26 PM (2WIwB)
Holy shit, you just reminded me that I still have an unopened bag of them from the texas mome return trip. Out of sight out of mind.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 12, 2025 10:29 PM (snZF9)
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I stand in awe of your self control.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 10:31 PM (2WIwB)
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TiFW, good to see you. I'm learning hard lesson on what you've gone through. You've been an inspiration.
Posted by: From about That Time at December 12, 2025 10:31 PM (sYWfT)
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What's even wrong with that pizza? I'm not female let alone pregnant and it looks tasty.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 12, 2025 10:32 PM (gKWVE)
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I was getting swollen tonsils every time I got allergies. And then I'd have to take steroids to get back to normal. 2-3 times a year. So a doctor was thinking about getting me into surgery to have my tonsils taken out which as an adult is a big thing. So they sent me to an ear/nose/throat spec. to check me first.
First thing the bastard did was shove one of those damned camera things down my nose and into my throat. It was one of the most horrible experiences in my life. No pain. Just constant unavoidable gagging. Gagging like you wouldn't believe. And then my stomach started playing along trying to wretch with whole body convulsive spasms. Never felt so weak and inhuman. I wanted to punch that f'er when it was over.
2 things,
That woman in the video has some very specific, unique talents.
It's good I'm straight because there is absolutely no friggan way I could be gay. Right out.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 12, 2025 10:32 PM (3uBP9)
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Teresa, I hope you are recovering from surgery and doing well.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 12, 2025 10:33 PM (6p0Jv)
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I thought the actress who played Mrs Olson was Margaret Hamilton, who portrayed a witch on the Wizard of Oz film. Maybe I’m misremembering commercials
Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 10:33 PM (p/70E)
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You are an inspiration TiFW. To your continued health and your pig-headed resilience.
*clink*
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2025 10:33 PM (dyewR)
Given the general desire for inflation, I don't believe the fourth option can be calibrated. Due to related instability, another 75 years isn't appealling. And Wikipedia is worthless woke shit these days (and I don't terribly want to go through the covid insanity again).
Posted by: Methos at December 12, 2025 10:34 PM (vSvIl)
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WTH is that Santa one? After the Irish family I can't understand what he is saying. Also, he sounds like a British Elizabethan actor, so I don't believe he's the real Santa.
Posted by: GWB at December 12, 2025 10:34 PM (GPiBi)
Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 10:35 PM (2WIwB)
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I think Margaret Hamilton was the Maxwell House lady. She did that weird Paul Lynde show too. That was a trip.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 12, 2025 10:35 PM (6p0Jv)
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Hmmm, health or time travel. Time travel is good, make an obscene amount of money with what you know. On the other had, being reset back to 25 and getting another 100 years with a 25 year old body. When I was 25 I was having fun money couldn't buy, and I can do that shit for 100 years?? Sign me the fuck up.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 12, 2025 10:35 PM (snZF9)
Just how are those four halves supposed to be distributed? Quarter chicken and mushrooms, quarter chicken and onions, quarter onions and olives, quarter olives and chicken? What if that's not how she wanted it? You'd think it would have been specified.
The Montana State BobKittuhs are beating Stephen F Austin Lumberjacks, 17-8!. GO BOBKITTUHS!! No rooting interest actually, I just like bobcats. I'm disappointed that MSU doesn't have actual bobcats playing.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 12, 2025 10:36 PM (+YRf1)
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My grandfather sat back down and said that he flew out of Gander during the war, and there were times when landings were very difficult. Very quiet meal.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 12, 2025 10:27 PM (ZOv7s)
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I flew out of there coming home from Iraq.
Don't remember much about the flight.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at December 12, 2025 10:36 PM (22p5n)
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>>> WTH is that Santa one? After the Irish family I can't understand what he is saying. Also, he sounds like a British Elizabethan actor, so I don't believe he's the real Santa.
Posted by: GWB at December 12, 2025 10:34 PM (GPiBi)
That's Jack Karlson, an Australian dude who became a meme for resisting arrest while talking back to the people arresting him. He died recently.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 12, 2025 10:37 PM (3uBP9)
68WTH is that Santa one? After the Irish family I can't understand what he is saying. Also, he sounds like a British Elizabethan actor, so I don't believe he's the real Santa.
Posted by: GWB at December 12, 2025 10:34 PM (GPiBi)
it is the "gentlemen this is democracy manifest" bit redone.
The original was supposedly a dine and dash expert being arrested, back when that was important enough thing in England to be arrested for.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 10:38 PM (rbvCR)
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Sorry I'm late, snowshovel broke. Inhad to clear the walkway with that little fireplace shovel.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 12, 2025 10:38 PM (0iZzW)
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I don't mean santa was Jack Karlson, I just mean Santa was doing the bit in the meme.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 12, 2025 10:38 PM (3uBP9)
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Last time I was in Gander was 1961, flying in a DC-6 to Norway. Idlewild to Gander to Iceland to Oslo. Icelandic Airlines, which became a hippie airline with cheap flights later in the 60s. Next time we went, 1972, SAS 747 non-stop, a different world.
Posted by: Liked The Prop Plane, Though at December 12, 2025 10:38 PM (oftw2)
72I just ordered my bags of Buc-ees nuggets for the stockings. Mmmmmm!!!!
There is a company around Schulenberg, Texas that makes the most amazing corn nuggets candy. I can only find it at one gas station in Junction, which is on my way to San Diego.
Omas Choice. They also make a pretty good single serving buttermilk pie. Good road food. And German pumpkin butter, which is not good road food but amazing. The latter somehow ended up in a gas station a half hour north of me.
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Margaret was Cora, the Maxwell House kindly Coffee Lady.
Posted by: Good To The Last Drop at December 12, 2025 10:40 PM (oftw2)
7632 Worst part of the folgers commercial was the folgers.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division Here's what I used to do. I bought a red container of Folger's. Gagged it down until it was used up. Then I went back to buying the good bagged coffee grounds and stored it in the handy Folger's container. Now I have a nice wide mouthed glass jar for my coffee grounds. So I don't have to explain to people that I don't really drink Folger's.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 12, 2025 10:40 PM (0Htd1)
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Those poor Canucks look so sad in that meme. Is it really that bleak?
Posted by: USA #1! at December 12, 2025 10:19 PM (oftw2)
Most of us are too damned comfortable, which means we put up with the evil shit our government does. California, q.v.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 10:41 PM (npFr7)
78Now I have a nice wide mouthed glass jar for my coffee grounds. So I don't have to explain to people that I don't really drink Folger's.
Posted by: nerdygirl
I buy a bag of expensive stuff and mix it with the store brand. Satisfices, as the economists say.
Posted by: Nicholas Angel at December 12, 2025 10:42 PM (mlg/3)
I'll have you know that if you find yourself in the bathroom of the down stairs Bier Garten in Munich's Hoff Brau Haus, you will witness a still working Speibecken (or Kotzbecken to you fellow heathens).
THIS is the famous PUKE BASIN.
Incidentally, I asked one of my German friends if anyone every uses it since it appeared spotless. His answer surprised me. Depends if there are any Italians or French in town. They're delicate flowers when if comes to good beer.
Posted by: Orson at December 12, 2025 10:44 PM (dIske)
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69 Sorry I'm late, snowshovel broke. Inhad to clear the walkway with that little fireplace shovel.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 12, 2025 10:38 PM (0iZzW)
Sheesh you rich folks with your shovels.
i had to clear the walkway with nothing but broken spatula.
In the dark!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 10:44 PM (2WIwB)
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There is a company around Schulenberg, Texas that makes the most amazing corn nuggets candy. I can only find it at one gas station in Junction, which is on my way to San Diego.
Oma’s Choice. They also make a pretty good single serving buttermilk pie. Good road food. And German pumpkin butter, which is not good road food but amazing. The latter somehow ended up in a gas station a half hour north of me.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 12, 2025 10:38 PM (EXyHK)
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If you are in Junction and are hungry, the Junction Burger Company is most excellent. A locals kind of place. It is a gutbomb meal, but will sustain you for hours, or a day.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 12, 2025 10:44 PM (6p0Jv)
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Last reminder - submit your ornaments of note for the Hobby Thread tomorrow and join for the fun and games at 5:30ET. Thanks much to Morons that have already made submissions!
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Mrs. Olson was married for life to character actor Fritz Feld. POP!
Posted by: And She Was Mountain Grown at December 12, 2025 10:46 PM (oftw2)
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banana Dream, did the ear, nose, and throat doctor say, "you're going to feel some pressure." Whenever they say something like that, you're in for it.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 12, 2025 10:47 PM (0Htd1)
I get it. when my wife was preggers with our first-born, her favorite food was Reese's Peanut Butter Cup ice cream floats with Sprite, and french fries.
Second son: Whole milk. Lots and lots of whole milk. But we were in Germany and we had access to high quality milk.
Women be weird, yo!
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 12, 2025 10:48 PM (0aYVJ)
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50 Hey WD! Do you work in the Healthcare Insurance industry? If so I have some questions on where I can find a good policy.
I do. Send me an email(my nic at gee, mail!) and I'd be happy to help.
Posted by: Weirddave at December 12, 2025 10:31 PM (df/te)
Thanks WD; email sent.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 10:49 PM (ynpvh)
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53 What's even wrong with that pizza? I'm not female let alone pregnant and it looks tasty.
Posted by: gKWVE
What does identifying as a woman have to do with being pregnant?!?¿°
Posted by: Dylan Mulvaney at December 12, 2025 10:49 PM (ycI94)
88If you are in Junction and are hungry, the Junction Burger Company is most excellent.
Thanks, Ill remember that. On the way out Im usually there pretty early and have filled up on kolaches from Gudes in Burnet and fritters from Mason Donuts. On the way back though, its all gas station food.
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Urinal troughs, huh?
Posted by: Orson at December 12, 2025 10:44 PM (dIske)
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Spartan Stadium has them. They line the male restroom walls, and are very efficient. I recall Michigan Stadium had gone with just peeing against the walls, which had a thin sheen of water running down them.
Presumably their fan base peed against the walls by habit, and the university adapted to it.
90Now I have a nice wide mouthed glass jar for my coffee grounds. So I don't have to explain to people that I don't really drink Folger's.
Posted by: nerdygirl
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I buy a bag of expensive stuff and mix it with the store brand. Satisfices, as the economists say.
Posted by: Nicholas Angel at December 12, 2025 10:42 PM (mlg/3)
That's like 'Let's take this here filet mignon, grind it up, mix it with hamburger and make chili'.
My theory is enjoy the good things once in a while for what they are -- good. Life's too short.
Posted by: RickZ at December 12, 2025 10:51 PM (gKDq2)
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banana Dream, did the ear, nose, and throat doctor say, "you're going to feel some pressure." Whenever they say something like that, you're in for it.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 12, 2025 10:47 PM (0Htd1)
I had the laryngoscope put up my nose and down my throat a couple of times. Was irritating, but not horrible. More of a burning sensation than a gagging one. The doc was a pro, and a very good communicator.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 10:51 PM (npFr7)
I get it. when my wife was preggers with our first-born, her favorite food was Reese's Peanut Butter Cup ice cream floats with Sprite, and french fries.
Second son: Whole milk. Lots and lots of whole milk. But we were in Germany and we had access to high quality milk.
Women be weird, yo!
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 12, 2025 10:48 PM (0aYVJ)
Mom craved Chinese food when she was carrying me; she was concerned, as she heard that every 3rd person was Chinese and thought I might come out as one. LOL.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 10:52 PM (ynpvh)
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Incidentally, I asked one of my German friends if anyone every uses it since it appeared spotless. His answer surprised me. Depends if there are any Italians or French in town. They're delicate flowers when if comes to good beer.
Posted by: Orson at December 12, 2025
Yup. True. The wine sippers can't hang when great bier is on the table.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 10:52 PM (2WIwB)
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Definitely not picking time travel. I once dreamed I traveled to December 1862 and warned Burnside not to attack Marye's Heights and he had me locked up.
Posted by: PA Dutchman at December 12, 2025 10:52 PM (31p00)
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Teresa, what a treat to see you in the comments. I hope you are doing well, and the prayers for your health continue from this end.
Hope you'll be able to attend the Club ONT Christmas party tomorrow night...everyone has been wondering how you are doing.
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94 Definitely not picking time travel. I once dreamed I traveled to December 1862 and warned Burnside not to attack Marye's Heights and he had me locked up.
Posted by: PA Dutchman at December 12, 2025 10:52 PM (31p00)
Even if you could travel back, I'd guess that fighting against the inertia of history might be difficult; small things might be adjustable, but large ones probably not. The again, a small change, given enough time, can result in a large result, like trying to move an asteroid...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 10:54 PM (ynpvh)
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93 Incidentally, I asked one of my German friends if anyone every uses it since it appeared spotless. His answer surprised me. Depends if there are any Italians or French in town. They're delicate flowers when if comes to good beer.
Posted by: Orson at December 12, 2025
Yup. True. The wine sippers can't hang when great bier is on the table.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 10:52 PM (2WIwB)
I asked a German friend if he knew what the square root of 81 was. He didn't know...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 10:55 PM (ynpvh)
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I asked a German friend if he knew what the square root of 81 was. He didn't know...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 10:55 PM (ynpvh)
heh!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 10:56 PM (npFr7)
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56 I thought the actress who played Mrs Olson was Margaret Hamilton, who portrayed a witch on the Wizard of Oz film. Maybe I’m misremembering commercials
Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 10:33 PM (p/70E)
You are correct.
She grew up in Cleveland and went to an private all girls school in Shaker Heights, called Hathaway Brown.
Posted by: browndog had a thing for the Laurel girls at December 12, 2025 10:58 PM (3sXRv)
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Good health is my pick, especially with the extends to loved ones bonus. If I croak, hubby would not do well.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 12, 2025 10:58 PM (6p0Jv)
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75 Margaret was Cora, the Maxwell House kindly Coffee Lady.
Posted by: Good To The Last Drop at December 12, 2025 10:40 PM (oftw2)
Yup, and Jane Withers was the Comet lady (Rosie?)
Posted by: Joemarine at December 12, 2025 10:59 PM (y171U)
10294 Definitely not picking time travel. I once dreamed I traveled to December 1862 and warned Burnside not to attack Marye's Heights and he had me locked up.
Posted by: PA Dutchman
I've visited Fredericksburg Battlefield a few years ago. That 'high ground' was steep, almost a cliff, yet Burnside made that call anyway. Burnside should have been court martialed for that. WTF?
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 12, 2025 11:00 PM (+YRf1)
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Sheesh you rich folks with your shovels.
i had to clear the walkway with nothing but broken spatula.
In the dark!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 10:44 PM (2WIwB)
We just waited 'till spring.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 12, 2025 11:00 PM (0aYVJ)
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103 Sheesh you rich folks with your shovels.
i had to clear the walkway with nothing but broken spatula.
In the dark!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 10:44 PM (2WIwB)
We just waited 'till spring.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 12, 2025 11:00 PM (0aYVJ)
You had a spatula?...
You had a walkway?...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:01 PM (ynpvh)
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The little school from East Texas is making this a game. SFA just scored. MSU 24- SFA 14
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 12, 2025 11:02 PM (+YRf1)
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Enjoying the bee content. Just got everything for exhibiting at the North American Honey Bee Expo in Louisville next month.
Posted by: SkinnerVic at December 12, 2025 11:02 PM (JIGPW)
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40 years ago today…something like 200 or so members of the 101st Airborne were killed when their DC-8 crashed in Gander. They were coming home from a deployment in Egypt.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 12, 2025 11:02 PM (rQwsY)
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Love the pizza order! With #1 giant son (2oz shy of 10lbs...but he pooped, so I think that counts, due to wrapping the cord around his neck twice:yay for c-sections after a day's labor). I craved Mexican food. I also oddly loved hotdogs with everything on them (I don't like hotdogs normally).
My husband dreamed HE had a c-section for triplet boys and one was blond, the other two Mexican. We did have a Navajo/Mexican college friend who came for dinner that night, so John may be the reason. His dream got two parts correct: the blond single boy and a c-section due to a large head as well as the rest of him.
I don't think I was scary, but when I was hungry, do not get in my way.
So gigantic (not from the back) that people let me in the front of the lines in stores. Got stuck in a turnstile at the airport picking up my mother (who said she got tears in her eyes seeing me).
I got tears in my eyes when frat boys mooed at me in the crosswalk near our house. They were in a convertible and I wanted to jump in and beat them but I was too big. Instead I sobbed and scared my husband until the mooing part when he laughed and then I laughed. Frat bastids.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 12, 2025 11:03 PM (WONhk)
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Time travel is an easy pick I get to be 10 years younger and one of the richest people in the world just sports betting .
Posted by: the way I see it at December 12, 2025 11:03 PM (KDPiq)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 12, 2025 11:04 PM (yEo1J)
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106 Enjoying the bee content. Just got everything for exhibiting at the North American Honey Bee Expo in Louisville next month.
Posted by: SkinnerVic at December 12, 2025 11:02 PM (JIGPW)
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Be sure to stop by my booth. I'm demonstrating cutting edge bee-milking techniques.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2025 11:06 PM (dyewR)
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I remember this vividly. I was living with my grandparents when it happened, and they watched the news while eating dinner. As soon as the story broke, my grandfather got up and walked right up to the TV. I was about to say something, but my grandmother gave me a death stare and I froze.
My grandfather sat back down and said that he flew out of Gander during the war, and there were times when landings were very difficult. Very quiet meal.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 12, 2025 10:27 PM (ZOv7s)
I do too. I was at a DYA Center afterschool in Germany, playing pool. Announced at 1600 CET on AFN Radio as near as I could tell..
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 12, 2025 11:07 PM (rQwsY)
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I got tears in my eyes when frat boys mooed at me in the crosswalk near our house. They were in a convertible and I wanted to jump in and beat them but I was too big. Instead I sobbed and scared my husband until the mooing part when he laughed and then I laughed. Frat bastids.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 12, 2025 11:03 PM (WONhk)
Well, if it were my fraternity, we'd of sung The Sweetheart of Sigma Chi to you.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 11:07 PM (2WIwB)
Health
There's no substitute for it.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 12, 2025 11:04 PM (yEo1J)
Yes but weirdly the 100 years put me off.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 12, 2025 11:08 PM (KDPiq)
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Mooing at a heavily pregnant lady is about the lowest class thing I can imagine. Their mothers should have beaten them more.
Posted by: Or, Tortured, Shot, And Sent To The Russian Front at December 12, 2025 11:08 PM (oftw2)
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Hello, Horde! 😊♥️
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 12, 2025 10:02 PM (POaKN)
I hope your doing well.
Now, for the serious question. Which topping on the cheesecake? Strawberry, raspberry, cherry, or something else?
I think raspberry is best, but I know not everyone will agree with me.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 12, 2025 11:08 PM (S/Y4j)
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That monk in the red robes has got some serious biceps for a religious guy,.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 11:10 PM (k5cxK)
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Be sure to stop by my booth. I'm demonstrating cutting edge bee-milking techniques.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2025 11:06 PM (dyewR)
Boobies ?
Posted by: the way I see it at December 12, 2025 11:10 PM (KDPiq)
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40 years ago today…something like 200 or so members of the 101st Airborne were killed when their DC-8 crashed in Gander. They were coming home from a deployment in Egypt.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 12, 2025 11:02 PM (rQwsY)
SMH posted some links up-thread. I went to the "investigation" link, but did not want to watch a 45 minute video. Aircraft was a DC8, and it crashed shortly after take-off. Engine failure? De-icing not done, or done poorly? Pilot error?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 11:11 PM (npFr7)
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it is the "gentlemen this is democracy manifest" bit redone.
The original was supposedly a dine and dash expert being arrested, back when that was important enough thing in England to be arrested for.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 10:38 PM (rbvCR)
Aha. Thank you.
Posted by: GWB at December 12, 2025 11:11 PM (GPiBi)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 12, 2025 11:12 PM (f0sNM)
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111 Be sure to stop by my booth. I'm demonstrating cutting edge bee-milking techniques.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2025 11:06 PM
That's a HARD pass. Did you learn those techniques at Amherst College per chance?
Posted by: SkinnerVic at December 12, 2025 11:12 PM (JIGPW)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 12, 2025 11:04 PM (yEo1J)
Depends if you have a good reason to be around for another century. If everybody you ever loved is gone, would that truly be the best option? Maybe go back in time a decade to spend some quality time with some of your loved ones while they were still around? 10 years isn't much, but those 10 years might be worth more than a century to you.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:14 PM (ynpvh)
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Be sure to stop by my booth. I'm demonstrating cutting edge bee-milking techniques.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2025 11:06 PM (dyewR)
Boobies ?
Posted by: the way I see it at December 12, 2025 11:10 PM (KDPiq)
Boobees
Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 11:15 PM (2WIwB)
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Boobees
Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 11:15 PM (2WIwB)
Live in the Haunted Hive.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 11:17 PM (npFr7)
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That was a pathetic burp, she doesn’t even know what burping is. One of my buddies could say the entire alphabet doing one burp, all of us could get close.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 11:17 PM (k5cxK)
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Jim, when you asked him about "nine" did he suddenly get thirsty? Because I think I see a pattern here.
16 scares 'em. And for God's sake avoid 36.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 12, 2025 11:18 PM (zdLoL)
Posted by: mot at December 12, 2025 11:18 PM (fIPNY)
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115 Mooing at a heavily pregnant lady is about the lowest class thing I can imagine. Their mothers should have beaten them more.
Posted by: Or, Tortured, Shot, And Sent To The Russian Front at December 12, 2025 11:08 PM (oftw2)
Eh, they got theirs from the hex I put on them. Little twits. I should have climbed into the car just to see what they'd do.
My husband usually walked the park with me but was puny or something and I did it alone. In labor, to attempt to speed it up, we walked it twice. That kid was not coming normally, and I am thankful for the c-section or it would have been bad for him.Back then no sonograms were done unless medically necessary.
By the time my OB mentioned a section I did not care if he came out of my ear. The epidural was great!
Scheduled section for #2 due to the big head deal from their Daddy.Far less exciting and all was well once again.All done, altho I wanted one more and hubby talked me out of it. We know it would have been another boy.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 12, 2025 11:20 PM (WONhk)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 11:27 PM (9iyS+)
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131 127 Jim, when you asked him about "nine" did he suddenly get thirsty? Because I think I see a pattern here.
16 scares 'em. And for God's sake avoid 36.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 12, 2025 11:18 PM (zdLoL)
I verbally offered him a gift, but he refused for some reason.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:23 PM (ynpvh)
I told him I made the gift especially for him, and that made him nervous...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:27 PM (ynpvh)
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It would suck to be young that long. No matter when you lived you would hate the changes to the world; politics, religion, music, culture would all pass you by. Or you would have no grounding or connection to a time.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 12, 2025 11:28 PM (R86kT)
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The health option also states that our loved ones will also have health of a 25 year old. That is nice.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 12, 2025 11:29 PM (6p0Jv)
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Couldn't watch the nasotube deal as I had it done as a college girl for sinus stuff then surgery. NOPE!
As a RN I used to put tubes into nostrils to stomachs, and was pretty good at this or shoving things into people. No longer done, but I did it when people were bleeding with ulcers and iced saline lavage. Fun times for us all!
I was in my 20's but looked 16 and somehow convinced patients I knew what I was doing (I did, but do wonder what they thought as I have always looked younger). Had my RN cap on to prove I was not a candy striper wandering in. No one died on my watch who wasn't supposed to when I was charge nurse.
I was very good at starting IV's and liked that.Could still start an IV on anything. I see forehead veins (like Markle's) and want to give it a try. I don't have a forehead vein that bulges like hers, and think it's pretty weird.
Nurses are weird this way to size up your veins in public when bored. Or, I am. I also want to advise people to get moles checked. I really should not be loose in public.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 12, 2025 11:30 PM (WONhk)
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Sorry I'm late, snowshovel broke. Inhad to clear the walkway with that little fireplace shovel.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 12, 2025 10:38 PM (0iZzW)
Shit man, did you have to clear a forest with a herring too? lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 12, 2025 11:33 PM (snZF9)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 11:27 PM (9iyS+)
Since 2016 I've lost my parents, my wife, her parents, a couple of her uncles, several of my uncles, an aunt, and at least one cousin. I could get to see them all again, even if it's just for a short time...and warn my brother not to marry wife #3...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:33 PM (ynpvh)
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>>My husband dreamed HE had a c-section for triplet boys and one was blond, the other two Mexican.
I think your husband did way more drugs than I did.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 11:34 PM (viF8m)
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Christy, I found nurses are better at starting IVs than EMTs.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 11:34 PM (rbvCR)
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138 The health option also states that our loved ones will also have health of a 25 year old. That is nice.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 12, 2025 11:29 PM (6p0Jv)
Yes, but wouldn't work on those that have already passed (unless it did, and that would be even worse)...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:34 PM (ynpvh)
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"....a small change, given enough time, can result in a large result, like trying to move an asteroid..."
The Butterfly Effect.
Posted by: Racially Ambiguous Honky at December 12, 2025 11:34 PM (zdQuL)
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Big bro could burp entire sentences.. He called it "belching in tongues" Eww. Betcha he barfed more than a few times, while practicing!
I'd rather go back in time, BUT-- 2015 was during the obastard years, so no thanks.
Thought I'd pretty much already had the "yellow pill" until hubby got sick. Mediocrity is *safe* and I'm not really an extrovert or thrill-seeker; it suits me.
Don't want to live another 100 years, even if healthy. Can barely stand "society" NOW. Heh.
F it all Friday, Horde! WOOT!
Thanks for the ONT, weirddave!
Posted by: JQ at December 12, 2025 11:35 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 12, 2025 11:36 PM (R86kT)
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Christy. Veins. I've seen family members in hospital have a bad time because their veins were hard to find. I'm glad to have.good ones for blood draws even when I'm a bit chunky.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 12, 2025 11:37 PM (6p0Jv)
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143 Christy, I found nurses are better at starting IVs than EMTs.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 11:34 PM (rbvCR)
For me last year, they had to bring out the vein-finder after I had fluid infiltration at least 3 times (which means they couldn't get a good line three times on a single IV, three times), and they had resorted to poking veins on the back of my hands. In the end, they shoved a line in my open arm into a large blood vessel.
I rate this the worst vacation I've ever had.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:37 PM (ynpvh)
150 Those poor Canucks look so sad in that meme. Is it really that bleak?
Posted by: USA #1! at December 12, 2025 10:19 PM (oftw2)
__________
Are you kidding? Millions of leftists dream of emigrating to Canada to make their fortune.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 11:38 PM (tgvbd)
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137 It would suck to be young that long. No matter when you lived you would hate the changes to the world; politics, religion, music, culture would all pass you by. Or you would have no grounding or connection to a time.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 12, 2025 11:28 PM (R86kT)
It’s the Duncan MacLeod of the Clan MacLeod problem.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 11:38 PM (k5cxK)
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 12, 2025 11:38 PM (mT+6a)
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Yes, but wouldn't work on those that have already passed (unless it did, and that would be even worse)...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:34 PM (ynpvh)
Pet Cemetery
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 11:39 PM (k5cxK)
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153 Yes, but wouldn't work on those that have already passed (unless it did, and that would be even worse)...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:34 PM (ynpvh)
Pet Cemetery
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 11:39 PM (k5cxK)
More like stuck in their coffins, buried 6ft under, not able to get out...horrible way to go. Well, wouldn't be problem for Mom as she was cremated...no idea where she is.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:40 PM (ynpvh)
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142 >>My husband dreamed HE had a c-section for triplet boys and one was blond, the other two Mexican.
I think your husband did way more drugs than I did.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 11:34 PM (viF8m)
I think he was just freaked out at how things were going. To make it more fun, the baby was 10dys late and I cried every morning he was late. He's still late for many things. I rarely cry.
The doc did not want to alarm me the way things were going, but did say the next day he was thankful the kid refused to go further as things would not have turned out so well for the King of the Baby Nursery.
My BIL, when he saw me, suddenly had pity he did not have prior. Said, "Wow, it was like you carried a 10lb of potatoes." Indeed. Women are amazing.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 12, 2025 11:41 PM (WONhk)
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Hello and happy Friday to the Horde. Hope you are all having a great Friday night, a great ONT, and will have an awesome weekend.
Oh and a great Monday too as long as I'm at it.
Love you all.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 12, 2025 11:42 PM (CHHv1)
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Yes, but wouldn't work on those that have already passed (unless it did, and that would be even worse)...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:34 PM (ynpvh)
Pet Cemetery
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 11:39 PM (k5cxK)
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Pet Cemetery is disturbing. And there was a whole season of Buffy the Vampire Season dealing with the notion.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 12, 2025 11:42 PM (6p0Jv)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 11:44 PM (OfmEX)
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I got the booze stash set up for the party tomorrow. I opened some of the bottles because for some frigging reason people don't go near unopened bottles. Me thinks I be sampling tonight. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 12, 2025 11:45 PM (snZF9)
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nurse, I sure missed chatting with him at the TxMoMe. He was a very interesting man.
Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at December 12, 2025 11:45 PM (47diA)
168Those poor Canucks look so sad in that meme. Is it really that bleak?
Probably not quite that bleak, but they appear to be further down the slope than we are. The only Canadian (who still lives there, at least) I follow is Laura Rosen Cohen. Look for Lauras Links on SteynOnline.com.
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I made you spit this afternoon. My life is complete.
Posted by: nur
we would have been fast friends fast save for that thing
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 11:45 PM (V0RQu)
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>>My BIL, when he saw me, suddenly had pity he did not have prior. Said, "Wow, it was like you carried a 10lb of potatoes." Indeed. Women are amazing.
You are fortunate to have so many kind and supportive men in your life.
Where did the Mexicans enter this situation?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 11:45 PM (viF8m)
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149 143 Christy, I found nurses are better at starting IVs than EMTs.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 11:34 PM (rbvCR)
For me last year, they had to bring out the vein-finder after I had fluid infiltration at least 3 times (which means they couldn't get a good line three times on a single IV, three times), and they had resorted to poking veins on the back of my hands. In the end, they shoved a line in my open arm into a large blood vessel.
I rate this the worst vacation I've ever had.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:37 PM (ynpvh)
Sounds like they should always bring out the vein finder. Jeez. My favorite vein is the one below your wrist (on the inside: cephalic). Most people have good pipes there and can still use their hands. In the ED they just do it in your inner elbow. We were taught to start in the lower arm to free that one for emergencies.
In my 7yrs in the newborn nursery and step down NICU I had to start tiny IV's in baby's scalps. I hated that but did it when I had to.
How are you doing? I think you were in the hospital last summer?
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 12, 2025 11:47 PM (WONhk)
So fucking stupid.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 12, 2025 11:42 PM (mT+6a)
_________
Historically, a 6 on 5 works 10-15% of the time.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 11:48 PM (tgvbd)
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OREGON: At some point we're going to have to re-claim territories.
The nursing ethics board that oversees the licensure of Oregon nurses has decided to take no action against the infamous nurse Camesha Hart, of Beaverton Oregon, who sent messages to Jews calling them “vermin” and “dogs” and saying she doesn’t treat animals.
In fact, they allowed her to renew her RN license for another two years, we found out last week.
Camesha Lynn Hart — a nurse of 22 years in Beaverton Oregon — found herself in an imbroglio of antisemitic proportions when she popped off a number of anti-Jew comments earlier this year in February and March 2025 on her Instagram page.
Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 11:49 PM (Cjcf6)
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I usually kept my pregnancy whacked-out ness to myself, but I did, with the third, shake Mr. S awake out of a sound sleep one morning, sobbing hysterically because he had not mended the hole in the wall of the nursery and ordering him to fix it RIGHT NOW, b/c I could not live in this white trash house any more.
(Why was there a hole in the wall? The older two- five and three- had drilled a hole in the wallboard with a geometry compass and my pinking shears. Just because they wanted to see what was back there.)
Posted by: sal at December 12, 2025 11:51 PM (f+FmA)
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Where did the Mexicans enter this situation?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 11:45 PM (viF8m)
The only supportive one was my husband, who feared my wrath as he got me this way.
Our college friend we'd had to dinner (tacos) is half Navajo and half Mexican. So I am pretty sure he had something to do with the dream that night, as well as me declaring I could eat Mexican food every day.
I am used to telling the men in my family what I think. We drove cross country to a new job in FL when the baby was 6wks old. Stopped on my farm in MS and my brother stuck his head in the car and asked, "Is this your milking stall?" I told him to shut up and get out of my way.
And, yes, that baby had a growth spurt and ate a lot as we drove 8hrs/day for 3dys. The truckers probably liked me as we decided we could not stop every 1.5hrs and took our chances with him briefly out of his carseat.
This was in a Sentra with the toddler in his carseat in the front passenger seat (no airbags during the Civil War times). He did get in hot water trying to mess with the gear shift going over the Rocky Mountains. It was a fun time.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 12, 2025 11:55 PM (WONhk)
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My husband dreamed HE had a c-section for triplet boys and one was blond, the other two Mexican.
I think your husband did way more drugs than I did.
Posted by: JackS
or he had some weekends in tijuana he never mentioned to you
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 11:43 PM (V0RQu)
Years ago I heard a comedian talking about dreams. He said one second you're falling down a mine shaft, the next you're in a parade. My dreams are that way. Its like being in front of a TV for hours watching different episodes of different TV series. One second I'm in a post apocalyptic hellscape trying to find a place to pee, the next I'm on a road trip with no clue where I'm going on a motorcycle I don't recognize, and the next I'm in a lumber mill, and then I'll finish off on an intergalactic cruise ship from the 5th element. WTF...
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 12, 2025 11:55 PM (snZF9)
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I'm beginning to think the refs have some money on this game. They sure like throwing flags against Montana St. Bobkittuhs still have the lead, 41-21.
Well, 41-28 now.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 12, 2025 11:57 PM (+YRf1)
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When my wife was 6 months pregnant (not huge yet) we were on a summer trip, driving through Arkansas, and she was feeling super hot and couldn’t cool down, we were at a hotel and their was ac, but not that great- so suddenly she just grabbed a scissors and cut most of her hair off.
It was kind of a Britney Spears thing, I think.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 11:57 PM (k5cxK)
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>>I am used to telling the men in my family what I think.
No way.
You're a funny lady.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 11:58 PM (viF8m)
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(Why was there a hole in the wall? The older two- five and three- had drilled a hole in the wallboard with a geometry compass and my pinking shears. Just because they wanted to see what was back there.)
Posted by: sal at December 12, 2025 11:51 PM (f+FmA)
Boys? Mine once melted a block of cheddar cheese on a lightbulb (their lamp) when I let them make a tent in their room on a rainy FL day. I smelled something burning and that's what I found with them quite pleased, as they were camping.
The toddler youngest also gave the fish in their bathroom tank a fluoride treatment once. No one wondered why they died later. One side of the tank was smeared with toothpaste.
I refer to this as the chimp era of life with boys. My husband traveled a lot and I nearly went insane at times, but managed to raise them to be responsible adults. I never was admitted to the psych unit. I did call my husband during the chickenpox quarantine to come home. The only time I did this.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 12:01 AM (WONhk)
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A really weird dream I’ve had - and I found out other people have had this too, so it must mean something - is that I’m sitting at a table , and my teeth feel funny, so I reach up and take them all out of my mouth and lay them on the table in front of me. And then I try to put them back in so they fit right, but it’s hard and pretty frustrating.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:01 AM (k5cxK)
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 12, 2025 11:38 PM (mT+6a)
yeah, I miss him too. He used to make me laugh. I guess he used to shuttle people back and forth from the airport. Every time he picked up some rock/metal musician from the east coast he would text me and asked if I knew them, or sometimes he asked if they knew me. One time they actually did, and I actually knew his brother, lol. Damn I miss him.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 12:02 AM (snZF9)
Cool. Suppressed subsonic .22 LR can actually do that.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 13, 2025 12:08 AM (xceqr)
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A really weird dream I’ve had - and I found out other people have had this too, so it must mean something - is that I’m sitting at a table , and my teeth feel funny, so I reach up and take them all out of my mouth and lay them on the table in front of me. And then I try to put them back in so they fit right, but it’s hard and pretty frustrating.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:01 AM (k5cxK)
Can't say I ever had that one. I usually can tell If I'm dreaming. If it starts to get too bizarre something in my brain pulls me out and I hear myself saying yeah, this isn't real. I would know that my teeth don't actually come out and the dream would end right there. Of course the next second I would be sorting bolts in a hardware store or some shit.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 12:08 AM (snZF9)
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184 A really weird dream I’ve had - and I found out other people have had this too, so it must mean something - is that I’m sitting at a table , and my teeth feel funny, so I reach up and take them all out of my mouth and lay them on the table in front of me. And then I try to put them back in so they fit right, but it’s hard and pretty frustrating.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:01 AM (k5cxK)
This means you're feeling powerless.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at December 13, 2025 12:11 AM (pIfcn)
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There's a few I've heard that seem to be common. Like if you dream you're being chased, it means you're avoiding something. These aren't exactly revelatory.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at December 13, 2025 12:13 AM (pIfcn)
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That Time Travel option is a sure way to go insane. You will have knowledge of thousands upon thousands of tragedies world wide.
So, does your conscience allow you to ignore each and every one of them? Some of them? None of them? Do you want to feel responsible for doing nothing to prevent that poor Ukrainian girl from being stabbed on the train?
Where do you draw the line? And, when are you going to have any free time to benefit yourself.
That one is a trap.
Posted by: Orson at December 13, 2025 12:13 AM (dIske)
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How are you doing? I think you were in the hospital last summer?
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 12, 2025 11:47 PM (WONhk)
It's been a year for me. Son had to go in back in summer (being incredibly stupid, even required an ambulance ride).
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:13 AM (ynpvh)
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Camesha Lynn Hart — a nurse of 22 years in Beaverton Oregon — found herself in an imbroglio of antisemitic proportions when she popped off a number of anti-Jew comments earlier this year in February and March 2025 on her Instagram page.
Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 11:49 PM (Cjcf6)
Gaza is looking for nurses and doctors just like her...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:14 AM (ynpvh)
190A really weird dream I’ve had - and I found out other people have had this too, so it must mean something - is that I’m sitting at a table , and my teeth feel funny, so I reach up and take them all out of my mouth and lay them on the table in front of me. And then I try to put them back in so they fit right, but it’s hard and pretty frustrating.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:01 AM (k5cxK)
Yeah, I've been having a similar dream. Except that I'm sitting at the dining room table with several people, and they all take their teeth out, and can't get them back in, but I've still got mine. Then Mrs. Paco brings in a platter of steaks. "Well, if nobody else is going to eat these..."
Posted by: Paco at December 13, 2025 12:17 AM (2L+MU)
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we were at a hotel and their was ac, but not that great- so suddenly she just grabbed a scissors and cut most of her hair off.
It was kind of a Britney Spears thing, I think.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 11:57 PM (k5cxK)
Bless her. The heat got to her. Our house was over a century old and he had to get a window unit for our bedroom. The only time I was happy that summer was in a pool. It was hideous.
My ancient car broke down one day that summer and I just left it in the street. Some men saw me leave it and pushed it out of the way. I didn't even care that I left it, but did thank them and called from somewhere to the man who supported me (I have blocked this part out). It was the old car he courted me in and proof I did not marry him for his money. His car was a stick shift and I did not learn how to drive it til we moved to FL.
It always freaked me out, when he was teaching me in the mountains, to feel the car roll a tiny bit backwards as I shifted into first gear. So I learned in FL.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 12:17 AM (WONhk)
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I dreamt once that I was Daniel Jackson from Stargate SG-1. I was somewhere very different and abstract. It was a most unsettling dream, for a variety of reasons.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 12:18 AM (6p0Jv)
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Yeah, I've been having a similar dream. Except that I'm sitting at the dining room table with several people, and they all take their teeth out, and can't get them back in, but I've still got mine. Then Mrs. Paco brings in a platter of steaks. "Well, if nobody else is going to eat these..."
Posted by: Paco at December 13, 2025 12:17 AM (2L+MU)
It means you're a gavone. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 12:19 AM (snZF9)
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It's been a year for me. Son had to go in back in summer (being incredibly stupid, even required an ambulance ride).
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:13 AM (ynpvh)
Hoping next year will be better for you and everyone but Dims, trannies and anti-semites. I could probably think of others but I need to go to bed.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 12:19 AM (WONhk)
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I dreamt once that I was Daniel Jackson from Stargate SG-1. I was somewhere very different and abstract. It was a most unsettling dream, for a variety of reasons.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 12:18 AM (6p0Jv)
I had dreams like that, but I wasn't any of the specific characters. I had a cool jaffa weapon though.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 12:21 AM (snZF9)
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192 I dreamt once that I was Daniel Jackson from Stargate SG-1. I was somewhere very different and abstract. It was a most unsettling dream, for a variety of reasons.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 12:18 AM (6p0Jv)
I have often found myself in class, or in college, having missed most of the semester without the ability to withdraw. I used to run around trying to fix as much of it as I could, but the last few years when those dreams come up, I go, "Well, too late to do anything. I'll go off somewhere else and do something not so stressful." I still do occasionally have dreams where I have to do math, although it's been a couple of years since I had to do some calculus in my dreams (find the volume of a sphere with a hole drilled from one point through the center to the other side...had to wake up to finish that one).
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:21 AM (ynpvh)
197 We're getting another stupid arctic air blast moving in Sunday, with forecast lows early Monday morning of 18F.
It's been a cold Dec. so far, avg. temp here about 40F compared to normal value for the month so far of about 46F (it's 45F for the whole month of Dec).
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 13, 2025 12:21 AM (w6EFb)
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yeahhh I'm getting a bit twisted. Sampling the booze table. Been a while since I had JD. I went back for seconds of that.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 12:23 AM (snZF9)
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I fall asleep by starting to dream. I know because if I’m really really tired but someone is keeping me up I’ll start to dream even while I’m still technically up,
Most often it’s my wife who’s more of a night person who wants to keep on talking , and she’ll asked me something she thinks is serious and I’ll do something like point at the dresser and say “yeah but we’ve got to take care of the cantaloupe patch here first”. So shell just say “okay put your head down you’re dreaming again.”
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:23 AM (k5cxK)
A federal appeals court on Friday overturned Judge Talwani’s (already halted) orders blocking Trump’s Big Beautiful Bill provision that barred funding for Planned Parenthood.
The First Circuit Court of Appeals vacated Judge Talwani’s July orders granting preliminary injunctions blocking the provision.
The three-judge panel unanimously overturned Judge Talwani’s orders.
Posted by: Crusader at December 13, 2025 12:23 AM (Cjcf6)
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194 It's been a year for me. Son had to go in back in summer (being incredibly stupid, even required an ambulance ride).
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:13 AM (ynpvh)
Hoping next year will be better for you and everyone but Dims, trannies and anti-semites. I could probably think of others but I need to go to bed.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 12:19 AM (WONhk)
That would be nice. 2025 started with the death of an uncle. I now have one uncle and one aunt left (Mom's older sister--the eldest, and her younger brother--the youngest). Still have lots of cousins, siblings, nieces and nephews, and my kids.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:24 AM (ynpvh)
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I just had the most perfect Manhattan, I think I will have another.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 13, 2025 12:26 AM (XV/Pl)
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We're getting another stupid arctic air blast moving in Sunday, with forecast lows early Monday morning of 18F.
It's been a cold Dec. so far, avg. temp here about 40F compared to normal value for the month so far of about 46F (it's 45F for the whole month of Dec).
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 13, 2025 12:21 AM (w6EFb)
It's started getting cold here again...highs have dropped into the low 70's, but should be back in the mid 70's in a few days. Lows have been in the low 50's...brrr!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:26 AM (ynpvh)
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I have often found myself in class, or in college, having missed most of the semester without the ability to withdraw. I used to run around trying to fix as much of it as I could, but the last few years when those dreams come up, I go, "Well, too late to do anything. I'll go off somewhere else and do something not so stressful." I still do occasionally have dreams where I have to do math, although it's been a couple of years since I had to do some calculus in my dreams (find the volume of a sphere with a hole drilled from one point through the center to the other side...had to wake up to finish that one).
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:21 AM (ynpvh)
Occasionally I do dream I'm back in high school, and it's always the same. I can't remember where my locker is, no clue what classes I should be in, teachers bitching at me for being late, and again, since I know when I'm dreaming I find myself saying in the dream "hey, I graduated, they can kiss my ass, not a damn thing they can do to me. lol
One time though, I was actually back in present day and spent the whole dream wandering around and looking at all the changes.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 12:27 AM (snZF9)
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Lol Tom Servo. I can have entire discussions with hubby that he won't recall the next day.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 12:27 AM (6p0Jv)
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199 I fall asleep by starting to dream. I know because if I’m really really tired but someone is keeping me up I’ll start to dream even while I’m still technically up,
Most often it’s my wife who’s more of a night person who wants to keep on talking , and she’ll asked me something she thinks is serious and I’ll do something like point at the dresser and say “yeah but we’ve got to take care of the cantaloupe patch here first”. So shell just say “okay put your head down you’re dreaming again.”
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:23 AM (k5cxK)
Wife, God rest her soul, would have more trouble than I would falling asleep. I could fall asleep in less than 30 seconds. So my wife would sometimes ask, "Honey, are you awake?", and I'd respond, "I am now."...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:28 AM (ynpvh)
207193 It means you're a gavone. - Berserker-Dragonheads Division
Nah, I'm just a, whaddayacall, a conoyzer of good food.
Posted by: Paco at December 13, 2025 12:29 AM (2L+MU)
A federal appeals court on Friday overturned Judge Talwani’s (already halted) orders blocking Trump’s Big Beautiful Bill provision that barred funding for Planned Parenthood.
The First Circuit Court of Appeals vacated Judge Talwani’s July orders granting preliminary injunctions blocking the provision.
The three-judge panel unanimously overturned Judge Talwani’s orders.
Posted by: Crusader at December 13, 2025 12:23 AM (Cjcf6)
So judges AREN'T allowed to preempt laws passed by Congress and signed by the President on a personal whim? Who would have thunk it...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:29 AM (ynpvh)
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One time though, I was actually back in present day and spent the whole dream wandering around and looking at all the changes.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 12:27 AM (snZF9)
Feels weird when that happens...I'm way too old to be around, worried that teachers will call the police on me, so I sneak out of my HS as quickly and quietly as I can...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:31 AM (ynpvh)
A federal appeals court on Friday afternoon temporarily halted Judge Boasberg’s contempt hearings in the Alien Enemies Act deportations case scheduled for next week.
Earlier Friday, Judge James Boasberg made it clear that he was not backing off from his planned contempt hearings and threatened to pierce through attorney-client privilege in his order denying the government’s motion to reconsider.
Later Friday, a three-judge panel on the DC Circuit Court of Appeals temporarily halted Boasberg’s contempt hearings.
Judges Rao (Trump), Walker (Trump) granted an administrative stay pending further order of the court.
--minimu
Its about time Boasberg is removed from office. At the minimum, its time he was brought up on "conflict of interest" charges so that he can no longer sit on cases that involve the Trump Administration. Trump clearly lives inside Boasberg's head, and if Boasberg were *ethical* he would have already withdrawn from sitting on cases involving the current Administration.
Posted by: Crusader at December 13, 2025 12:33 AM (Cjcf6)
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I fall asleep by starting to dream. I know because if I’m really really tired but someone is keeping me up I’ll start to dream even while I’m still technically up,
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:23 AM (k5cxK)
Thats how it starts with me. I'm in the dream before I'm totally asleep. I'm in the dream yet hear anything going on around me, or if I'm not in the right position and still trying to get settled. Weirder is if I happen to get up to pee I can go right back to the dream.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 12:33 AM (snZF9)
212196 I have often found myself in class, or in college, having missed most of the semester without the ability to withdraw. - jim (in Kalifornia)
Now, in all truth, that is a dream I still have fairly frequently, usually involving my graduate school days, even though I graduated 32 years ago.
Posted by: Paco at December 13, 2025 12:34 AM (2L+MU)
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207 193 It means you're a gavone. - Berserker-Dragonheads Division
Nah, I'm just a, whaddayacall, a conoyzer of good food.
Posted by: Paco at December 13, 2025 12:29 AM (2L+MU)
Food in my dreams often tastes BETTER than in real life. The corn I ate was fantastic! Buttery, intense corn flavor. Tropical fruits were excellent, beyond measure. I even ate a fruit that had a flavor I'd never encountered before.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:35 AM (ynpvh)
214 I manage to see an ISS pass yesterday morning around here at 6:35AM. And there's another one, a little bit more south and not quite as high due around 5:45AM this morning.
These are almost perfect, getting high overhead, taking a long arc from the SW to the NE. It was a cool thing to see, and I'm gonna catch the one this morning for sure.
What surprised me was how far away I could see it. When it first popped up over the horizon this morning, the thing was just coming off Mexico into the Gulf a little north of the Yucatan. That seems a long way considering how low the ISS is, but the math works out. Maximum line of sight distance can be ~1400 miles for ISS orbital height.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 13, 2025 12:35 AM (w6EFb)
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Its about time Boasberg is removed from office. At the minimum, its time he was brought up on "conflict of interest" charges so that he can no longer sit on cases that involve the Trump Administration. Trump clearly lives inside Boasberg's head, and if Boasberg were *ethical* he would have already withdrawn from sitting on cases involving the current Administration.
Posted by: Crusader at December 13, 2025 12:33 AM (Cjcf6)
That fucker needs to be reduced to washing car windows at traffic lights in NYC, or treading lava in a fucking volcano.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 12:35 AM (snZF9)
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212 196 I have often found myself in class, or in college, having missed most of the semester without the ability to withdraw. - jim (in Kalifornia)
Now, in all truth, that is a dream I still have fairly frequently, usually involving my graduate school days, even though I graduated 32 years ago.
Posted by: Paco at December 13, 2025 12:34 AM (2L+MU)
We must be close to the same age...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:36 AM (ynpvh)
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if Boasberg were *ethical* he would have already withdrawn from sitting on cases involving the current Administration.
Posted by: Crusader at December 13, 2025 12:33 AM (Cjcf6)
Yeah, that's the problem with all leftist judges, isn't it? They have no sense of shame, hypocrisy, or ethics.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:38 AM (ynpvh)
218 Trump should just pardon everyone for the contempt "offenses" and moot everything. Suck it, Boasberg.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 13, 2025 12:40 AM (w6EFb)
219
I remember at one company we had to watch a series of modules with tests at the end, including a module on ethics. I finished it, and another co-worker came to me and asked for the answers to the ethics test...well, I *believe* he was joking with me...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:41 AM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 13, 2025 12:43 AM (0nHVk)
221216 We must be close to the same age... - jim (in Kalifornia)
I'm guessing you're probably considerably younger. Desperation to find a better job finally drove me to go to graduate school, and I was older than most of my colleagues. I will remove all mystery by pleading to having turned 70 in June of this year.
Btw, I attended the American Graduate School of International Management, better known as Thunderbird, located in Glendale, AZ. It was a great school, and did, indeed, help me get out of the dreary profession of mid-level commercial banking. Sadly, Thunderbird ran into financial problems a decade or so after I graduated, and was ultimately take over by the ASU system.
Posted by: Paco at December 13, 2025 12:49 AM (2L+MU)
222
I dreamt once that I was Daniel Jackson from Stargate SG-1. I was somewhere very different and abstract. It was a most unsettling dream, for a variety of reasons.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 12:18 AM (6p0Jv)
Do you have any funny rocks in your possession?
Posted by: Methos at December 13, 2025 12:56 AM (vSvIl)
223
Ran out of things to say earlier, wandered off to the treacherous wilds of YooToob. Back to clock out.🕛
Closing with a short seasonal ditty of my own devising
The Terrible Christmas Song (video 40sec)
On a radar screen, a blip...
http://bit.ly/terrible-christmas-song
224
Posted by: Paco at December 13, 2025 12:49 AM (2L+MU)
Indeed, you are. You have a bit more than a decade over me.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:59 AM (ynpvh)
225 Speaking of removing judges:
https://is.gd/hkgyfU
A Louisiana state judge was removed from office. She lied about her military service, and looks like some insurance fraud as well.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 13, 2025 01:00 AM (w6EFb)
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222 I dreamt once that I was Daniel Jackson from Stargate SG-1. I was somewhere very different and abstract. It was a most unsettling dream, for a variety of reasons.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 12:18 AM (6p0Jv)
Do you have any funny rocks in your possession?
Posted by: Methos at December 13, 2025 12:56 AM (vSvIl)
My dad used to have a collection of radioactive ores...does that count? I'd sometimes play with them...I'm sure it didn't harm me THAT much, right?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 01:01 AM (ynpvh)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 01:01 AM (ynpvh)
228
I got my grandson's ride-on motorcycle assembled all by myself and I am rewarding myself with a beverage. It was great to see Teresa post early this evening.
Bers, I want you to take some pictures of your tree and show them to me at the next MoMe.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 13, 2025 01:05 AM (0nHVk)
229
Good night, jim, good luck with your surgery on Monday and ley us know how you are doing when you can.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 13, 2025 01:07 AM (0nHVk)
230
Evening, Horde. Company Christmas party this evening. Was nice / enjoyable. Won a countertop KitchenAid mixer. Food was Louisiana style - tried okra. Not too shabby.
Posted by: scampydog at December 13, 2025 01:16 AM (41CYW)
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Speaking of removing judges:
https://is.gd/hkgyf
A Louisiana state judge was removed from office. She lied about her military service, and looks like some insurance fraud as well.
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Good news indeed! Now let's apply it to Congress and remove, prosecute, and extradite that stupid and illegal idiot from Minnesota.
Posted by: Crusader at December 13, 2025 01:24 AM (Cjcf6)
232
A Louisiana state judge was removed from office.
Good. Now let's get a few dozen Federal Judges removed from office. We know who the assholes are.
Posted by: Case at December 13, 2025 01:38 AM (G1OIb)
We all know Ilhan Omar is an illegal alien. We all know that she has no business being in our country, much less a House rep.
But why? WHO/WHAT was behind that stupid bint coming here? WHO/WHAT greased her way to political power? WHO/WHAT said "Hey, its no problem--we'll just have her marry her brother?"
Is the Republican party just brain-dead?
Posted by: Crusader at December 13, 2025 01:46 AM (Cjcf6)
235 But why? WHO/WHAT was behind that stupid bint coming here? WHO/WHAT greased her way to political power? WHO/WHAT said "Hey, its no problem--we'll just have her marry her brother?"
Is the Republican party just brain-dead?
Posted by: Crusader
==============
I don't know which part of the onion this is, but I suspect the brusband was her/the family's own idea, just to get him out of the gay London scene and into college in America. In fact, all that happened before she got into politics.
How/why that happened is a bit mysterious. I've seen quite a few Somali politicians on social media since this came out, all of them of course bitching about this racist hellhole and a promise to elevate Somali concerns above all others. I don't know how they all figured out that getting into office is the way to go in America, but it seems to me like they did. Ilhan did hold a lesser office before she made it into Congress.
As for how (the method), there's evidence that she sent thugs around and threatened Somali householders to vote for her or get beaten up, robbed, whatever.
to be continued...
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 13, 2025 01:54 AM (1N/bM)
236
Had a long phone call w/lil bro.. he's on the road, headed to Nebraska..
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Last memorable dream I had, was me pushing hubby in his wheelchair down a long slope. There were humps in the path (it was paved) and it was rather steep... Wheee!
I controlled our speed, and we rode down the slope like it was a rollercoaster. We were laughing and having fun, and then suddenly saw the end of the slope-- needed to stop, so I dug-in my feet and sent us into a long, slow, circular slide! Round and round, stopping at the 'landing' which was a level area, on the way to this large old-fashioned building which was our destination. (We were always so goofy like that...)
But there was some time left, so I asked hubby if he wanted to "do it again" down the bumpy slope? The look on his face, said yes-- but then he said "no, we better just go on to the appointment.
A bus was coming through, so I moved us to the side-- and then the ground began crumbling from under us. I screamed for help as I held his wheelchair in one hand and grasped at the edge with the other, to keep us from falling. *****UGH!!!*****
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 01:55 AM (rdVOm)
237
Bers, I want you to take some pictures of your tree and show them to me at the next MoMe.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 13, 2025 01:05 AM (0nHVk)
I take pictures every year. Its the only way I know how to put it back up the next year. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 01:55 AM (snZF9)
238Is the Republican party just brain-dead?
Posted by: Crusader [no]
No, sir! We have our eyes on the prize!!
(Eats paste, makes poop sculptures, cowers under stairwell)
Posted by: Ohio GoPE at December 13, 2025 01:58 AM (+YRf1)
239 So I don't know if this was some outside campaign of Dems who figured "Hey, let's get some Black Muslim actual African America-haters to run for office! All white liberals know that if you don't vote for them, you're racist!" I think somehow Somalis figured it out.
As for Republicans being brain-dead, well, just look at the results. Who was eyeballing these enclaves as they were forming? Who was concerned about these low-achieving, poor, non-English-speaking refugees who weren't improving over time? Who was asking why a bunch of desert dwellers were showing up in Minnesota? Who was paying attention to their unvarying refrain of America-hatred, their blatant statements that they're more Somali than American, their preference for Sharia law if they could have it, the evidence of FGM going on in Somalia?
Well, ordinary people were, but politicians? lolol
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 13, 2025 02:01 AM (1N/bM)
240 More about Republicans being brain-dead, we all know of how AOC was recruited by the Justice Democrats. Now that is a smart organization that apparently went around quietly and ferreted out talkative, (wrongly) opinionated, charismatic people and used some expertise to get them into office. Changes are excellent that Justice Democrats got your tax dollars and mine to do their work while GOPers sat by calling for collegiality.
It's astonishing how far the Dems can push this shyte before (minimal and late) opposition from Republican lawmakers and policy makers.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 13, 2025 02:06 AM (1N/bM)
241 JQ, wow, that sounds like one meaningful dream. How is hubby these days?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 13, 2025 02:07 AM (1N/bM)
Just started watching "Beowolf", Netfux, 20 minutes... I did not realize early England was ethnically diverse so as to resemble a circus side show.... delete...
Someone should make a Shaka Zulu, five minutes is enough, with a diverse group of warriors...
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 13, 2025 02:12 AM (/lPRQ)
243
We're getting another stupid arctic air blast moving in Sunday, with forecast lows early Monday morning of 18F.
It's been a cold Dec. so far, avg. temp here about 40F compared to normal value for the month so far of about 46F (it's 45F for the whole month of Dec).
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 13, 2025 12:21 AM (w6EFb)
About 4 or 5 below here right now. May warm up a little tomorrow, better still on Sunday and Monday, according to the forecast.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 02:13 AM (npFr7)
244
Hi, Blondie. Thanks for asking. Hubs is "ok"-- for certain values of "ok"
Yeah, that dream had me crying for a few days.
Hubby still knows who/where he is (and hates it) and who I am... even though he refers to me/calls me by his XW's name. He cannot recognize unsafe situations.
I need to win the lottery, so I can hire enough help to bring him home.
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 02:14 AM (rdVOm)
245
I need to win the lottery, so I can hire enough help to bring him home.
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 02:14 AM (rdVOm)
Had a big Lotto win today! Got a free ticket on the next draw.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 02:25 AM (npFr7)
246
Yay, AOP! That's about as good as I've ever gotten, too.
Better than a kick in the teeth...
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 02:29 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 02:32 AM (rdVOm)
249
JQ, my heart aches for you, I have walked down the same road as you know. Sweet dreams Horde, I still have them sometimes, but I have had many of the JQ type too, they are unsettling.
JQ, I am picking up the Santa suit in the morning, I will get here as early as I can for the party tonight.
Hubs didn't know my name for the last two years of his life, but he knew that I was special to him. Sometimes you just cling to that raft.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 13, 2025 02:35 AM (0nHVk)
250
Hubby would've been a good Moron-- I'd read posts to him, years ago. He liked the Saturday Night Jokes (since the ol' MisHum times) and agreed with most of the political stuff, which he no longer understands of G.A.F. about...
He's just a shadow now, of the man he used to be. I miss him, though he's still 'here'
ClubONT is my escape. Sorry if some commenters consider it "threadjacking" but I *need* some sanity and this is the only place.
Fk. Sorry.
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 02:39 AM (rdVOm)
See you tomorrow in ClubONT!!! Thanks for picking up the suit!
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 02:40 AM (rdVOm)
252 JQ, no such thing as jacking the ONT. My heart aches for you, too.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 13, 2025 02:44 AM (1N/bM)
253
Sorry if some commenters consider it "threadjacking" but I *need* some sanity and this is the only place.
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You're not threadjacking in The Club, JQ. Keep being you!
Posted by: scampydog at December 13, 2025 02:44 AM (wclU6)
I saw some daywalkers complaining the other day-- they were too passive-aggressive to specify, but I wondered whether they were referring to the whole Club concept or something else?
I'm not a trouble-maker, really, and don't wish to piss anyone off. If I pop up as "bartender" in some thread, does that harm anyone?
Anyway, not sleepy so I'm here whether anyone likes it, LOL!!!
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 02:50 AM (rdVOm)
255
Hey, Doggo. You're up late! Good to see you. And thanks.
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 02:52 AM (rdVOm)
256
"Sorry if some commenters consider it "threadjacking" but I *need* some sanity and this is the only place."
Thread jacking a open thread? Interesting concept. Has anyone notified ace of this?
Posted by: Otto Q. Cumber at December 13, 2025 02:52 AM (pcnhy)
257
Like you, I dont sleep much. And very much looking forward to your Club presence for the Christmas party tomorrow night.
Posted by: scampydog at December 13, 2025 02:54 AM (wclU6)
258
I'll be here for ClubONT Christmas Party, you better believe it!
Need to email TRex about the jukebox thing...
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 02:58 AM (rdVOm)
259
Noooo that's bad advice. At 500 yards? The laws of physics and Walter Slovotsky sayeth: THOU SHALL NOT TEMPT MURPHY, for he is a vicious God who will fucketh your world up just for the lols.
Aim center mass
Posted by: Fen at December 13, 2025 02:59 AM (2S1MH)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 13, 2025 03:15 AM (z5QST)
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108 I also oddly loved hotdogs with everything on them (I don't like hotdogs normally).
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat
When she was pregnant with my older brother my mother had the cravings for hot dogs with everything.
She had it bad, real bad.
One day towards the end of the pregnancy she and my father were going out of town.
As the story goes she had my father stop at nearly every place they sold hot dogs on the way to wherever they were going.
She got two hit dogs at every stop.
By the end of the trip she’d reached a dozen hot dogs.
I’m guessing the lucky dozen satiated her but it had an unintended side effect, she got sick, real sick, ended up vomiting them all up, while swearing to herself she’d never eat another hot dog for the rest of her life. A promise she kept until her dying day.
In fact, she was so determined to keep that promise that it landed on my brother, who would not (and still won’t) eat a hot dog, or bologna, or Vienna sausages, or anything that remotely resembles tasting like a hot dog. The closest he”ll get is a sausage dog/bratwurst.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 03:25 AM (6ydKt)
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Thanks, bear with asymmetrical balls! Hope Pixy will take care of it!
I may not be here for Tech Thread.
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 03:26 AM (rdVOm)
LOL! After watching my younger siblings (as toddlers) squish vienna sausages in their tiny fists... I just can't even eat those anymore. Dad used to snack on those & kept a stash of tins in the highest cupboard. Yeeesh.
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 03:30 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 03:43 AM (RuTUS)
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I still eat Viennas occasionally.
My father loved them, he was still eating them when could up until, he passed.
I’m not as thrilled with them as I used to be as kid, though.
Dad liked eating sardines, too.
He swears I used to love eating them with him sitting on his lap as a kid, but I don’t remember that far back and I certainly don’t eat them now.
Mom ate neither and always acted like she was gagging when she’d open a can of either of them for him.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 03:51 AM (6ydKt)
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Sardines..eewww. XH liked them, with crackers. Yuck.
But I would buy them, and he would share them with our cat. She liked the ones in tomato sauce best. LOL
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 03:57 AM (rdVOm)
Australian sheep dog asks random park-goers to play Dog Biathalon, which seems to be part fetch, part hide-and-seek.
Living in a low-trust society.Cat waves bye-bye.Hanging out.
Golden retriever is very protective of the new kitten.Sneaking kisses.
Steve Inman:
Beatdown in Brazil.
Internet "prankster" attempts to provoke strong men, succeeds beyond his expectations.
"Man" shows he is very capable of beating the shit out of a woman. Against an actual man -- or against six other dudes who joined in -- not so much.Bringing a knife to a fistfight.
He brought a steel rod to a carfight.
The first two clips of motorcycle mayhem are worth the watch, because the iniquitous get some rough justice. But most of the other clips are just guys wiping out, and I can't really get into that. Attempting stunts may be stupid, but it's not immoral. I don't want to see guys get wiped just for being dopey guys. Do watch the first couple, though.
Pro wrestling heel disrespects the wrong dad's kid.
Ratchet bitch starts a fight with a woman while she has a confederate film it for TikTok. Unfortunately, she brought a nothing to a fist fight.
That said, I saw Mephitic Spheniscidae open for Flock of Seagulls at the Odeon back in '86.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 12, 2025 07:19 PM (LxER7)
8
Wow, that was short previous thread. We were just getting warmed up.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 12, 2025 07:19 PM (xceqr)
9
It is amazing how much stupid shit there is on the internet. I caught an Unsub podcast last week where they were talking about Johnny Somali. What a fucking idiot scrunt.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 07:19 PM (zZu0s)
10That said, I saw Mephitic Spheniscidae open for Flock of Seagulls at the Odeon back in '86.
Did you run far away?
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 12, 2025 07:20 PM (2GVsD)
Look up Bonnie Blue. Stupid blonde Aussie version of Kamala 'suck the garden hose' Harris who is now facing 15 years in Indonesia
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 12, 2025 07:21 PM (2GVsD)
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Perhaps TJM can use the Ferris Bueller real ending. Cut to him with a bathroom wandering into his movie room when he notices the camera is still on and he chastises the audience for still watching.
Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 07:16 PM (WDjG6)
This. This!
Just film it once and edit it into the end of every video.
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 07:22 PM (1Yy3c)
Posted by: fourseasons at December 12, 2025 07:24 PM (3ek7K)
25
Speaking of Navy - the Shawn Ryan v Dan Crenshaw slapfight is kinda emblematic of the whole Republican shit show.
Posted by: blaster at December 12, 2025 07:24 PM (RoO7G)
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>>>8 Wow, that was short previous thread. We were just getting warmed up.
i didn't think there was much to comment on with that story. To be honest, I really should have folded it into The Week In Woke, but I needed another post.
Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 07:25 PM (1wjle)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 12, 2025 07:26 PM (2GVsD)
29Sal "Waddles" Ghiaccio, il pinguino de tutti pinguini, to his henchmen: "Ya know, we could use a smart raccoon like dat in de organization. He could go far; maybe even become a made 'coon".
Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 07:27 PM (2L+MU)
There was a story of a guy at my university who did the oral defense of his thesis. In the customary ballet, he was excused after he finished and told to wait for the committee's decision.
An hour later he was still waiting and having a breakdown. Turns out his committee spent 20 seconds agreeing it was fine, then spent an hour discussing who would be the next president of the university.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 07:29 PM (tgvbd)
Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2025 07:31 PM (YwEeS)
37
have you guys all watched Nathan For You? It's on HBO. (Which I signed up for for $3/month.)
So funny. He pretends he's doing a business rescue show where he, someone who took a handful of business classes at a mediocre college and got Bs and C's, offers "business advice" to business owners, but it's always these ludicrous scams and legal loophole plays and sometimes just absurd stunts.
Like in one he has an electronic store advertise a sale for 50 inch tvs for $20, but the fine print says you must be on line at a specific time, you must be wearing formal wear (tuxedos and gowns), and you can only reach the tvs by going through a hallway in which he has placed a real live alligator.
Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 07:34 PM (1wjle)
38
Evening, Ace, and Cafe found-ins. Still colder than a tax collector's heart here.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 07:34 PM (npFr7)
39
Friday night in Texas. The air is redolent of BBQ.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 07:35 PM (sDNVV)
Posted by: fourseasons at December 12, 2025 07:36 PM (3ek7K)
43
Penguins will often enlist the aid of a prehensile patsy to perpetrate their polymorphic perversity. Racoons are a favorite choice as they easily swayed to devious deeds that would be impossible for the flippered fiends to perpetrate on their own.
Posted by: Penguin Facts at December 12, 2025 07:37 PM (vFG9F)
44
Nathan for You advises a struggling caricature artist to rebrand himself as an insult comic caricature artist, favoring gay and racist attacks on his subjects.
https://youtu.be/wUY_i5Tco68?si=i72u9xfyHALqb3Gj
Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 07:37 PM (1wjle)
Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 07:37 PM (ZxPkt)
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Friday night in Texas. The air is redolent of BBQ.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 07:35 PM (sDNVV)
Just the smell could fill you up.
Posted by: LASue at December 12, 2025 07:37 PM (UwBs6)
47have you guys all watched Nathan For You? It's on HBO. (Which I signed up for for $3/month.)
Posted by: ace
I fucking hate embarrassment humor. It's like cancer with clown makeup.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 12, 2025 07:38 PM (mlg/3)
48Like in one he has an electronic store advertise a sale for 50 inch tvs for $20, but the fine print says you must be on line at a specific time, you must be wearing formal wear (tuxedos and gowns), and you can only reach the tvs by going through a hallway in which he has placed a real live alligator.
Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 07:34 PM (1wjle)
What do you mean scams? That is totally legit!
Posted by: SXM Cancellation Department at December 12, 2025 07:39 PM (RoO7G)
How good is Arby's delivered?
Posted by: fourseasons at December 12, 2025 07:39 PM (3ek7K)
What recourse do the Door Dash customers have in a case like that?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 07:44 PM (npFr7)
63
Perhaps TJM can use the Ferris Bueller real ending. Cut to him with a bathroom wandering into his movie room when he notices the camera is still on and he chastises the audience for still watching.
Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 07:16 PM
Or better yet, just do "That's all I have for today. Go away now!" in a sarcastic sneer!
Posted by: Amy Schumer at December 12, 2025 07:44 PM (xceqr)
Posted by: fourseasons at December 12, 2025 07:46 PM (3ek7K)
7169 JackStraw, I hope Elvis has some treats left.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 07:45 PM (sDNVV)
Is that some kind of code?
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 12, 2025 07:46 PM (RoO7G)
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Criminals are really stupid . I mean you are robbing 5 men larger than you with a pea shooter and you take your eye off all of them who are a foot from you , except the one guy you’re patting down with no idea where your only protection is (not pointing at anyone ) .
He should be beaten just for being stupid.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 12, 2025 07:46 PM (KDPiq)
73
I believe that reindeer is a bit light in the loafers. I'm not judging though.
Posted by: fd at December 12, 2025 07:47 PM (vFG9F)
74
How good is Arby's delivered?
Posted by: fourseasons at December 12, 2025 07:39 PM (3ek7K)
Better than cold Taco Bell.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 07:43 PM (zZu0s)
Arbys is delivered before you eat it.
Taco Bell is delivered AFTER you eat it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2025 07:47 PM (meunJ)
75
If Arby’s is half as good as their commercials make them look, then they would be top fast food restaurant of all time.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 12, 2025 07:48 PM (KDPiq)
Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 07:50 PM (sDNVV)
82
From the Department of Things I Didn’t Know (it’s a really big department).
In 1990, the Soviets had a Miss KGB contest.
https://tinyurl.com/4uhr62z7
This occurred not long before the collapse of the Soviet Union, so Ms. Mayorova soon found herself without a job; however, she succeeded in landing a position with Penguin Facts, where she served as principal liaison with left-wing billionaire Geetus L. Mazuma, the so-called Pizza King. As previously noted, Mazuma has been donating huge sums of money to Penguin Facts for years in furtherance of his plan to corner the market on anchovies by destroying his main competitors, i.e., the entire penguin race. (The fact that people who order pizza with anchovies are also the sort of people who put cheese on their apple pie is a side issue which need not detain us from considering the more important issue of Spheniscidacide.)
Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 07:51 PM (2L+MU)
83
Rudolph the brown-nosed reindeer.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 07:49 PM (25a1J)
Speaking of, anyone who has not seen Robbie the Reindeer, it's made by the same folks who made Wallace and Gromit.
Robbie is Rudolph's son, and he must try to live up to his dad's legacy.
There's enough adult level humor to make it fun, and nothing is objectionable enough to keep kids from watching.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2025 07:52 PM (VOfD/)
84
Perhaps TJM can use the Ferris Bueller real ending. Cut to him with a bathroom wandering into his movie room when he notices the camera is still on and he chastises the audience for still watching.
Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 07:16 PM
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Dolly in a bikini bringing him a pipe and slippers FTW!
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 07:52 PM (25a1J)
85with names like Dasher Dancer Prancer and Vixen, they are required to strut - Don Black
Hmm. With names like that, one would think they'd be more likely to, er, sashay, so, yes, strutting is mandatory.
Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 07:53 PM (2L+MU)
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 12, 2025 07:54 PM (RoO7G)
87
strutting is not inherently gay the way sashay is
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 07:43 PM (EIQMg)
Nancing is.
Mincing is right out.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 07:55 PM (zZu0s)
88
Damn, asshat that wrecked the bicycle race needed a beat down. Someone that stupid needs to be nailed to a tree.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 12, 2025 07:55 PM (snZF9)
89
From the Department of Things I Didn’t Know (it’s a really big department).
In 1990, the Soviets had a Miss KGB contest.
https://tinyurl.com/4uhr62z7
This occurred not long before the collapse of the Soviet Union, so Ms. Mayorova soon found herself without a job; however, she succeeded in landing a position with Penguin Facts, where she served as principal liaison with left-wing billionaire Geetus L. Mazuma, the so-called Pizza King. As previously noted, Mazuma has been donating huge sums of money to Penguin Facts for years in furtherance of his plan to corner the market on anchovies by destroying his main competitors, i.e., the entire penguin race. (The fact that people who order pizza with anchovies are also the sort of people who put cheese on their apple pie is a side issue which need not detain us from considering the more important issue of Spheniscidacide.)
Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 07:51 PM (2L+MU)
She can bug my embassy anytime she wants!
IYKWIMAITYD
Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2025 07:55 PM (VOfD/)
Hey, I got drugs in the car. Lemme run this stop sign.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 07:58 PM (tgvbd)
94
Frigging chuckle heads screwing around on motorcycles is always amusing. They never learn.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 12, 2025 07:59 PM (snZF9)
95
Arby's, like most fast food, used to be a lot better.
I go occasionally, and I'll usually get the French dip sandwich but I've had their cheeseburger and it's not terrible. They also have a limited time hoagie-type sandwich around Thanksgiving made with deep-fried turkey that's tasty.
I used to love just getting a couple of beef & cheddars when I was a kid, but they're nowhere near as big now unless you get a double or triple.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 07:59 PM (6ydKt)
96
Frigging chuckle heads screwing around on motorcycles is always amusing. They never learn.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads
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Sometimes, that first fuckup is really instructive.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2025 08:00 PM (XeU6L)
97
Anybody read that Laura Loomer deposition about Arby's?
That's hilarious!
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 12, 2025 08:01 PM (RoO7G)
98
Gotta enjoy those Steve Inman videos. A bit of humor and a good dose of justice.
Posted by: JTB at December 12, 2025 08:02 PM (yTvNw)
99
Arby's, like most fast food, used to be a lot better.
I go occasionally, and I'll usually get the French dip sandwich but I've had their cheeseburger and it's not terrible. They also have a limited time hoagie-type sandwich around Thanksgiving made with deep-fried turkey that's tasty.
I used to love just getting a couple of beef & cheddars when I was a kid, but they're nowhere near as big now unless you get a double or triple.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 07:59 PM (6ydKt)
The Big Montana. A big pile of delicious meat on a bun with nothing else but a bit of horsey sauce. My once-a-year treat.
Posted by: LASue at December 12, 2025 08:03 PM (UwBs6)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 08:09 PM (zZu0s)
109
Jake gets a steak finger every morning. Pretty cheap as far as dog treats go.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 08:10 PM (+mUZM)
110
Updates!
1. The first batch of snow globe cookies are a fail. They stuck to the cheap parchment paper. Lesson learned.
2. I am having to restore my iPad from this ridiculous Liquid Glass update that killed it even though it’s the latest gen Air. The autocorrect on this is crazy. It keeps going back to the word it thinks you should use. Not the one you want.
3. My Mac is telling me this will take 7 hours. Screaming.
Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 08:10 PM (ZdaMQ)
111
Their gyro is not bad though, if you tell them to put extra sauce on it.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 12, 2025 08:07 PM (jc0TO)
I've been spoiled by a local deli's gyros.
I tried Arby's once, and was "WTF is this?"
Never tried it again.
I like thin roast beef or thicker roast beef on sandwiches.
I'm easy to please on the sandwich front as long as the word 'pastrami' doesn't enter the discussion.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 08:11 PM (6ydKt)
112Ace of Spades. We have the MEATS!
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 12, 2025 08:06 PM
You may beat our team, but you'll never beat our meats!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 08:11 PM (0sNs1)
113
When I was a kid, we had no Arby's. When we were in Denver that's where we'd go. We thought we were living large.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 08:11 PM (L/fGl)
114
3. My Mac is telling me this will take 7 hours. Screaming.
Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 08:10 PM (ZdaMQ)
I've never tried to restore a previous update but that sounds about right for an Apple procedure over a USB cable.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 08:12 PM (6ydKt)
115
I never heard this -- cats get mad if you mess up the spot they just cleaned with their tongue?
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Apparently they are not fond of "human stink." So they clean the spot all over again to remove your scent.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 08:14 PM (ynpvh)
123
97 Anybody read that Laura Loomer deposition about Arby's?
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Inspire owns
Arby's
Buffalo Wild Wings
Sonic Drive-In
Dunkin'
Baskin-Robbins
Jimmy John's
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 08:15 PM (imZqa)
124
Breaking News: The Austin, Texas baristas have joined the strike against Starbucks.
Many are marching with a sign that reads "Don't cross our picket line".
Easy peasy. Not even an inconvenience.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 08:15 PM (0sNs1)
125I hear the Japanese have the same problem with us dairy-loving white people.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 08:13 PM
I would be shunned like a leper then.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 12, 2025 08:15 PM (jc0TO)
126
An hour later he was still waiting and having a breakdown. Turns out his committee spent 20 seconds agreeing it was fine, then spent an hour discussing who would be the next president of the university.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 07:29 PM (tgvbd)
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Sounds about right for academia.
127
117 I member back when Hardee's had roast beef as well.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 08:13 PM (zZu0s)
Hardees was unusual for having Hot Ham & Cheese, and Big cookies.
That was my goto order at about two in the morning with the munchies after a night out in the 90s.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 08:16 PM (6ydKt)
128
"Left-wing" billionaire Geetus L. Mazuma noted in his own biography that his animosity towards penguins was due to an encounter in his early teens with an overstimulated Sphenisciforme.
Penguin Facts will point out that what was considered "Left wing" in 1990 would be quite mainstream nowadays. Shifting attitudes about the vermin currently trying to claim the moniker that actually belongs to an extinct species of sea fowl have led to a greater awareness of the mephitic menace.
Posted by: fd at December 12, 2025 08:17 PM (vFG9F)
Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 08:18 PM (Ia/+0)
133
I ordered Taco Bell after a long hiatus of … not eating there very often. It wasn’t … bad .. but the portions were small. I anticipated that and ordered a metric crapload. Too expensive for what you get, and what you get isn’t anything to jump and shout about. A good Mexican style restaurant probably still does OK
Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 08:18 PM (Wu2hV)
Posted by: Adriane the Not Cynical Enough Critic . . . at December 12, 2025 08:18 PM (3ZUWJ)
136Apparently they are not fond of "human stink." So they clean the spot all over again to remove your scent.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 08:12 PM
Wait until they encounter penguin excreta.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 08:19 PM (0sNs1)
Jack In The Crack located at Tillicum, WA had those righteous curly fries. A bacon burger rounded out the kingly repast. Right as rain, good as new by morning. Mostly
Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 08:20 PM (Wu2hV)
143
New York Post
@nypost
Meet the socialist LA leader making $240K to reign over drug-infested park as it crumbles
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Well, she's doing every bit as good a job as Big Mouf Bass.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 08:20 PM (L/fGl)
144
I ordered Taco Bell after a long hiatus of … not eating there very often. It wasn’t … bad .. but the portions were small. I anticipated that and ordered a metric crapload. Too expensive for what you get, and what you get isn’t anything to jump and shout about. A good Mexican style restaurant probably still does OK
Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 08:18 PM (Wu2hV)
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I made tacos this past week using Taco Bell seasoning mix. They tasted very close to the real deal. Although the meat was pricey, the rest of the ingredients are pretty cheap ($0.85 for the seasoning--for 10 tacos).
The proper name of the game is hide-and-go-seek. Only Commies say it the other way.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2025 08:22 PM (syz1S)
148 Many are marching with a sign that reads "Don't cross our picket line".
Easy peasy. Not even an inconvenience.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 08:15 PM (0sNs1)
_________
The only thing I enjoy from SBUX is their Strawberry and Crème Frappucino.
When I want coffee, I want some ordinary joe, not blended half-caff latte soy whip. And their ordinary joe is awful and overpriced. Better stuff at Buc-ee's at half the price.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 08:22 PM (tgvbd)
149
Cats is cool, ain't they?
Posted by: Eromero at December 12, 2025 08:19 PM (LHPAg)
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I dunno...I think of them as furry hot water bottles when they sit on my lap or curl up with me at night.
150
Going to have to take a nap tomorrow so that I can make it to Christmas party at the ONT club.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 08:23 PM (sDNVV)
151
149 Cats is cool, ain't they?
Posted by: Eromero at December 12, 2025 08:19 PM (LHPAg)
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I dunno...I think of them as furry hot water bottles when they sit on my lap or curl up with me at night.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 08:22 PM (ESVrU)
Depends how long they're trapped in the fridge or freezer...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 08:24 PM (ynpvh)
152
Before Bill Penzey had the stroke I used to order a lot of their spices. They had a good Chili powder & mix. Nice deep red color & Ancho flavah. Chili powder goes stale pretty fast unfortunately.
Tough to find good spices In quantity. McCormick ain’t it.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 08:25 PM (Wu2hV)
153 Just saw some footage of Trump honoring the Miracle on Ice hockey team for 1980.
I love these shots of him in the Oval Office. He always sits in the chair, with everyone else standing around him. This is a power move. He's Captain Kirk in The Chair. That the bridge of the USS United States. He's the captain. In the chair. The boss. The big cheese. The Big Kahuna.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 12, 2025 08:25 PM (w6EFb)
154I dunno...I think of them as furry hot water bottles when they sit on my lap or curl up with me at night.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 08:22 PM
What do they think of you?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 08:25 PM (0sNs1)
155 A good Mexican style restaurant probably still does OK
Posted by: Common Tater
I just made 6 burritos with leftover pot roast today. In the freezer ready for a quick lunch.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 12, 2025 08:26 PM (mlg/3)
156 The boss. The big cheese. The Big Kahuna.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 12, 2025 08:25 PM (w6EFb)
________
The Don
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 08:26 PM (tgvbd)
157Before Bill Penzey had the stroke I used to order a lot of their spices. They had a good Chili powder & mix. Nice deep red color & Ancho flavah. Chili powder goes stale pretty fast unfortunately.
Tough to find good spices In quantity. McCormick ain’t it.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 08:25 PM
His (I believe) sister runs the apolitical The Spice House. There's also Savory Spice. I use both.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 08:26 PM (0sNs1)
158
Taco Bell is owned by Yum! Brands
Pizza Hut
KFC
Long John Silver's
The Habit Burger Grill
A&W
WingStreet
Pizzeria Uno
They have made moves to enhance their portfolio with newer, trendy concepts, such as ghost kitchens and delivery-focused brands.
Yum! Brands continuously seeks opportunities in the fast-food market, focusing on international growth and diverse dining options.
_DDG AI
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 08:27 PM (imZqa)
159
I dunno...I think of them as furry hot water bottles when they sit on my lap or curl up with me at night.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 08:22 PM
What do they think of you?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 08:25 PM (0sNs1)
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An ice pack?
Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 08:28 PM (Ia/+0)
161
>>I ordered Taco Bell after a long hiatus of … not eating there very often. It wasn’t … bad .. but the portions were small. I anticipated that and ordered a metric crapload. Too expensive for what you get, and what you get isn’t anything to jump and shout about. A good Mexican style restaurant probably still does OK
That's what I don't get about Five Guys. The foods ok but the prices are regular restaurant not fast food and there are way too many restaurants around here with better food for similar pricing.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 08:28 PM (viF8m)
162 They have made moves to enhance their portfolio with newer, trendy concepts, such as ghost kitchens and delivery-focused brands.
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They might try improving the quality of the food.
I know, stop laughing.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 08:28 PM (tgvbd)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 12, 2025 08:28 PM (w6EFb)
164
Yeah, I cook for myself now. Too easy to get e. Coli and golly knows what else these days. Not worth the risks to eat “fast” food, since it is so crappy now and slow. But a good mom & pop restaurant can probably still crank out a good meal. Just be prepared for sticker shock.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 08:29 PM (Wu2hV)
165
That's what I don't get about Five Guys. The foods ok but the prices are regular restaurant not fast food and there are way too many restaurants around here with better food for similar pricing.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 08:28 PM (viF8m)
But where else are you going to get a 5 pound bag of fries with a pound of grease on the bottom?
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 08:29 PM (6ydKt)
166
I would hock the farm for some really good fish n chips right now.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 08:30 PM (sDNVV)
167I think of them as furry hot water bottles when they sit on my lap or curl up with me at night.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 08:22 PM
What do they think of you?
Posted by: Duncanthrax
same thing only bigger?
Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 12, 2025 08:31 PM (a+4eV)
168
Turn that $40 of Taco Bell into $80 with door dash
Posted by: NCKate at December 12, 2025 08:31 PM (uQzkA)
169
Pantone’s 2026 Color of the Year is Cloud Dancer aka White
Cloud Dancer also lands in a year when our built environment is drifting toward aesthetic sterilization, complete with more white and less friction. (The Development/Courtesy Pantone)
But Cloud Dancer’s ascent doesn’t happen in a vacuum. It lands in a moment when America’s political architecture is staging its own whitening. From the East Wing teardown to a planned paint-over of the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, the federal palette has converged on one directive: Make America White Again.
_https://www.archpaper.com
/2025/12/ pantone-2026- color-of-the-year-
cloud-dancer/
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 08:32 PM (imZqa)
170
168 Turn that $40 of Taco Bell into $80 with door dash
Posted by: NCKate at December 12, 2025 08:31 PM (uQzkA)
That's why I've used Uber or Door Dash maybe five times.
I can order stuff on my phone and drive the 1 to 5 miles to get it myself.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 08:33 PM (6ydKt)
171
Decades ago, the husband of a cow orker, who had run a fairly upscale restaurant in Steamboat Springs, moved with his wife here so she could get a real lawyer job. He took a job at Arby's but soon quit. He couldn't deal with the concept of artificial Cheese Whiz.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 08:34 PM (L/fGl)
172
>>I would hock the farm for some really good fish n chips right now.
Now that we have around here.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 08:34 PM (viF8m)
173
You old timers hoping to fill your gut on $1.25 are out of luck. I do remember buying a slice of pizza in Brooklyn for 15 cents, 1965. Thought they were gouging when it went to a quarter.
Posted by: Days Gone By at December 12, 2025 08:34 PM (oftw2)
174
I mainly cook my own meals these days. Tonight I’m baking us a butternut squash because they’re in the stores in the winter, we like them, they’re cheap, and they’re easy to bake.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 08:35 PM (k5cxK)
175Pantone’s 2026 Color of the Year is Cloud Dancer aka White
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 08:32 PM
Until the 'ettes add this to their list of fashion colors, it doesn't mean much.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 08:36 PM (0sNs1)
176
174 I mainly cook my own meals these days. Tonight I’m baking us a butternut squash because they’re in the stores in the winter, we like them, they’re cheap, and they’re easy to bake.
Posted by: Tom Servo
They are very easy to grow, plant a row and get a hundred pounds of them. Also store pretty well, save the seeds and plant them next spring.
Posted by: Squash Racket at December 12, 2025 08:39 PM (oftw2)
177The proper name of the game is hide-and-go-seek. Only Commies say it the other way.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2025 08:22 PM
Only British poofters say hide-and-go-seek. ie 'After we eat our spotted dick, let's play hide-and-go-seek.'
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 12, 2025 08:39 PM (jc0TO)
178
115 I never heard this -- cats get mad if you mess up the spot they just cleaned with their tongue?
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Apparently they are not fond of "human stink." So they clean the spot all over again to remove your scent.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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I don't think it's the smell, I think it is idea that we are "marking" them. Cats mark us as part of their territory or clan. If we then rub against them the feel dissed, thinking we are marking them. But I don't know, I don't have a cat sense of smell. Maybe they can tell but if that's the case, why would they want to live in our houses. Our whole world must smell worse than our fingers.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 12, 2025 08:40 PM (uxVjF)
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 12, 2025 08:41 PM (jc0TO)
180
I don't go to Starbucks but I have a sudden urge to...
Posted by: lin-duh at December 12, 2025 08:41 PM (VCgbV)
181
I parboil butternut squash in 1" cubes, then freeze. Good for a year. Just bake the cubes at 400 degrees for about 15 minutes. Good in soups and stews also.
Posted by: Squash Racketeer at December 12, 2025 08:45 PM (oftw2)
182
Having two cats for 17-18 years never noticed that cleaning no-no
Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 08:45 PM (Ia/+0)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 08:48 PM (k5cxK)
184
I don't go to Starbucks but I have a sudden urge to..
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Coffee is good for that, caffeine helps stimulate the bowels
Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 08:52 PM (Wu2hV)
185
172 >>I would hock the farm for some really good fish n chips right now.
Now that we have around here.
Posted by: JackStraw
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There is one seafood restaurant in town.
I left it on the table.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 08:55 PM (imZqa)
186
Remember when Arthur Treachers Fish and Chips were everywhere? I thought they were pretty good, looked them up only 3 left in the country. All in Ohio for some reason.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 08:56 PM (k5cxK)
187
Long John Silvers, worked summers between college years in mid 70's. Would love to have that exact fried fish again. We used to get to take home the leftovers if the guys cooked too much.
Posted by: skywch at December 12, 2025 08:58 PM (uqhmb)
188
Henrys was a competitor to McDonalds. Mr. Steak was a chain that wasn’t too bad.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 08:59 PM (Wu2hV)
189
>>>I never heard this -- cats get mad if you mess up the spot they just cleaned with their tongue?
Some of those had the people petting in the wrong direction. That'll piss a cat off no matter if they just cleaned it or not.
Pretty funny watching the cats get annoyed by the "dirty" touch.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2025 08:59 PM (syz1S)
190
I better turn this off
Have a good night everyone
Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 09:00 PM (Ia/+0)
191Breaking News: The Austin, Texas baristas have joined the strike against Starbucks.
Many are marching with a sign that reads "Don't cross our picket line".
Not even a "please?" F that. I'd probably go in and buy a coffee even if I didn't want one.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 12, 2025 09:00 PM (3nLb4)
192
180 I don't go to Starbucks but I have a sudden urge to...
Posted by: lin-duh
urinate?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 09:02 PM (imZqa)
193
I worked at a McDonalds in high school (just like Trump!) and they had that rule about leftover food. So if I was on closing shift and the middle aged manager was in the back room fooling around with one of the high school girls (he usually was) we’d fry up a dozen of those hot cherry pies at five minutes to 11.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 09:03 PM (k5cxK)
194He took a job at Arby's but soon quit. He couldn't deal with the concept of artificial Cheese Whiz.
You mean there's such a thing as real, all-natural cheeze whiz? Eww.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 12, 2025 09:03 PM (3nLb4)
195
Foolishly, Long John Silvers in Tuscaloosa had a Friday night all you can eat fish and chips.
19 year old college students can eat a lot of fried fish.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 12, 2025 09:03 PM (jc0TO)
196
Tom Servo, that was good planning would also love one of those cherry pies about now.
Posted by: skywch at December 12, 2025 09:05 PM (uqhmb)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2025 09:09 PM (XeU6L)
198
Now that I think about it, it wasn't Friday night, it was Sunday night, which is even worse for them as that was the only night that the school cafeterias were closed.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 12, 2025 09:09 PM (jc0TO)
199
The National Consumers League is America’s oldest consumer advocacy organization and a group trusted by the left, especially, to stand up for consumers’ interests.
But according to a review of its tax filings by the Washington Examiner, it has also become part of a web of astroturf groups shilling for the corporate interests of PhRMA, the massive drugmaker trade association that operates in Washington, DC, which donated close to $1 million to it just last year.
Posted by: SMOD at December 12, 2025 09:10 PM (GITLP)
200
Tom,
Every so often out here, MacDs puts out blueberry pies. Damn this things are like luscious little packages of crack!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 09:10 PM (2WIwB)
Does that mean that 90% of the remains 10% is also garbage? And that 90% of the still remaining 1% is garbage? Et cetera…
Posted by: Insensitive Clod at December 12, 2025 09:11 PM (hA9kl)
202
>>There is one seafood restaurant in town.
I left it on the table.
Nature of the beast. I live in the middle of some of the best seafood fishing in the northeast. Seafood restaurants are everywhere.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 09:11 PM (viF8m)
203
>I would hock the farm for some really good fish n chips right now.
Now that we have around here.
Posted by: JackStraw
Best halibut 'n chips is at the golf course where I play with the geezers. Best in all of the South Puget Sound.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 09:13 PM (2WIwB)
204
That hot cherry pie was the best thing McDonalds ever sold, especially since that was when everything was still fried in lard, not the vegetable stuff they switched to later. When they were right out of the fryer the cherry filling was molten.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 09:13 PM (k5cxK)
205
I saw Tenet. It was a decent enough action flick. I thought it was supposed to be complex and difficult to understand but it seemed pretty straight for/backward. Neil was obviously max. Which is a little sad at the end. But hopefully that was him on the stretcher before.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 12, 2025 09:14 PM (3uBP9)
206 Breaking News: The Austin, Texas baristas have joined the strike against Starbucks. Many are marching with a sign that reads "Don't cross our picket line".
Not even a "please?" F that. I'd probably go in and buy a coffee even if I didn't want one.
Posted by: Oddbob
*spits*
*crosses picket line*
*purchases cup of burnt brown piss*
*crosses picket line again*
*pours it out at their feet*
"Fuck you lefty progtard faggots, your nasty assed piss water coffee, and especially your lame assed pussy strike".
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 12, 2025 09:14 PM (QVmho)
207
I would love a blueberry pie! Well really there’s not many pies I would turn down.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 09:15 PM (k5cxK)
208
don't go to Starbucks but I have a sudden urge to...
Posted by: lin-duh
urinate?
Posted by: Braenyard
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Yep, I have 2 stents in and I'm still urinating lots of blood. But no more kidney stones for now.
Posted by: lin-duh at December 12, 2025 09:18 PM (VCgbV)
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>> I worked at a McDonalds in high school (just like Trump!) and they had that rule about leftover food. So if I was on closing shift and the middle aged manager was in the back room fooling around with one of the high school girls (he usually was) we’d fry up a dozen of those hot cherry pies at five minutes to 11.
I was trying to make some extra money for a few months before I moved to PR so I took an overnight job cleaning a McDonalds. Just me and one other guy and he was an ex-con, drug addict. A little twitchy but a pretty good guy. They let us eat whatever we wanted. He did, I couldn't even look at the stuff.
Turns out when you clean a McDonalds you don't want to eat McDonalds.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 09:18 PM (viF8m)
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I worked at a McDonalds in high school (just like Trump!) and they had that rule about leftover food. So if I was on closing shift and the middle aged manager was in the back room fooling around with one of the high school girls (he usually was) we’d fry up a dozen of those hot cherry pies at five minutes to 11.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 09:03 PM (k5cxK)
Those pies were good. Back in the 80's we had a McDonalds, a white castle, and a jack in the box all within pissing distance of each other. We would go to white castle and grab some burgers, then hit the McDonalds drive though next door for fries, a strawberry shake, and a few of those apple or cherry pies, and then feast on all of it in the parking lot. Many times we would just hit McDonalds and grab the shake, fries, and cherry pies. Its the shit that happened when you cruised around all night getting roasted. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 12, 2025 09:19 PM (snZF9)
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My grandmother used to say she only liked two kinds of pie: hot and cold.
Posted by: Wenda at December 12, 2025 09:19 PM (A65Zh)
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177 The proper name of the game is hide-and-go-seek. Only Commies say it the other way.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2025 08:22 PM
Only British poofters say hide-and-go-seek. ie 'After we eat our spotted dick, let's play hide-and-go-seek.'
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 12, 2025 08:39 PM (jc0TO)
They eat their faggots, too.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 09:20 PM (ynpvh)
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Fuck you lefty progtard faggots, your nasty assed piss water coffee, and especially your lame assed pussy strike".
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 12, 2025 09:14 PM (QVmho)
Now damn it Bif. Don't hold it in. Talk to us. Let it out. Tell us how you really feel.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 09:22 PM (2WIwB)
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>>Best halibut 'n chips is at the golf course where I play with the geezers. Best in all of the South Puget Sound.
Best lobster roll in the area is at a food truck at Southeast Lighthouse on Block Island. It's really good. Views pretty good, too.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 09:23 PM (viF8m)
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189 >>>I never heard this -- cats get mad if you mess up the spot they just cleaned with their tongue?
Some of those had the people petting in the wrong direction. That'll piss a cat off no matter if they just cleaned it or not.
Pretty funny watching the cats get annoyed by the "dirty" touch.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2025 08:59 PM (syz1S)
For some measures of "clean". I see my cats lick their a**holes and later lick their bodies...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 09:24 PM (ynpvh)
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207 I would love a blueberry pie! Well really there’s not many pies I would turn down.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 09:15 PM (k5cxK)
Their apple pie is kinda lame, but I still buy it.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 09:25 PM (2WIwB)
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189 >>>I never heard this -- cats get mad if you mess up the spot they just cleaned with their tongue?
Some of those had the people petting in the wrong direction. That'll piss a cat off no matter if they just cleaned it or not.
Pretty funny watching the cats get annoyed by the "dirty" touch.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2025 08:59 PM (syz1S)
The multiplier effect in reverse...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 09:25 PM (ynpvh)
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Yep, I have 2 stents in and I'm still urinating lots of blood. But no more kidney stones for now.
Posted by: lin-duh
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Wow! Had no idea. You sound positive. Is everything OK - going as expected?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 09:25 PM (OfmEX)
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I don't usually have the chance to get involved in daytime weekday threads (Ace's), but I followed several of them today. The pace of commenting seemed really fast to me. Is it usually so, was it just the topics, or was I moving slowly? he wondered.
And it's always sad when serious or hearty discussions are seasoned with the griping gripers who gripe. Glad I don't have to be the thread police.
220
Old hostess fried fruit pies in the waxed paper wrapper. Apple. Lemon. Cherry was ok.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 09:26 PM (zZu0s)
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N was being himself. People were being silly enough to play to him.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 09:28 PM (zZu0s)
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218 ----
Yep, I have 2 stents in and I'm still urinating lots of blood. But no more kidney stones for now.
Posted by: lin-duh
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Wow! Had no idea. You sound positive. Is everything OK - going as expected?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 09:25 PM (OfmEX)
Oof. Hope you feel better, Lin-duh. I've nevernot yet had kidney stones, but I have had some hematurias. At one point one episode was so bad that my red blood count dropped several points over a period of a week or two...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 09:29 PM (ynpvh)
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I worked at a McDonalds in high school (just like Trump!) and they had that rule about leftover food. So if I was on closing shift and the middle aged manager was in the back room fooling around with one of the high school girls (he usually was) we’d fry up a dozen of those hot cherry pies at five minutes to 11.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 09:03 PM (k5cxK)
Back when McD's pies retained the heat of a dying star and taking the first bite required courage.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 12, 2025 09:29 PM (GvesS)
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221 N was being himself. People were being silly enough to play to him.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 09:28 PM (zZu0s)
Did 'ee get 'is 5 quid?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 09:30 PM (ynpvh)
225
When I was in Alaska I got some great halibut. But, since then, the best halibut fish and chips was in Bandon, Oregon.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 12, 2025 09:31 PM (0aYVJ)
226 When I was in Alaska I got some great halibut. But, since then, the best halibut fish and chips was in Bandon, Oregon.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 12, 2025 09:31 PM (0aYVJ)
_________
Where can I get schrod?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 09:32 PM (tgvbd)
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With an assist from Prime Minister of Malaysia, Anwar Ibrahim, President Trump has achieved a ceasefire between the Thais and the Cambodians.
Settling Thais that the Cambodian roadside bomb killing Thai civilians was an accident.
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It appears that Cambodians are odd man out in the region. Or as others would put it - Cambodia is asshoe.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 09:34 PM (OfmEX)
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204 That hot cherry pie was the best thing McDonalds ever sold, especially since that was when everything was still fried in lard, not the vegetable stuff they switched to later. When they were right out of the fryer the cherry filling was molten.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 09:13 PM (k5cxK)
The cherry pie and the McDonaldland cookies. does anyone know why they stopped selling them? It seems like a lot of people remember them fondly.
Posted by: moki at December 12, 2025 09:35 PM (wLjpr)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 12, 2025 09:36 PM (LjSYW)
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228 204 That hot cherry pie was the best thing McDonalds ever sold, especially since that was when everything was still fried in lard, not the vegetable stuff they switched to later. When they were right out of the fryer the cherry filling was molten.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 09:13 PM (k5cxK)
The cherry pie and the McDonaldland cookies. does anyone know why they stopped selling them? It seems like a lot of people remember them fondly.
Posted by: moki at December 12, 2025 09:35 PM (wLjpr)
Jolli-Bee (a Filipino fried chicken place) has mango pies that they sell; they're pretty good.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 09:36 PM (ynpvh)
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191 Breaking News: The Austin, Texas baristas have joined the strike against Starbucks.
Many are marching with a sign that reads "Don't cross our picket line".
Posted by: Oddbob
For the press. Was in Center City Philadelphia today & saw no Starbuck's picketing on Walnut Street, South Broad, yada yada, and business was brisk.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 12, 2025 09:36 PM (NFX2v)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 12, 2025 09:38 PM (LjSYW)
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226
When I was in Alaska I got some great halibut. But, since then, the best halibut fish and chips was in Bandon, Oregon.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 12, 2025 09:31 PM (0aYVJ)
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Where can I get schrod?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 09:32 PM (tgvbd)
Gonna make some lutefisk?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 09:38 PM (ynpvh)
237 Jolli-Bee (a Filipino fried chicken place) has mango pies that they sell; they're pretty good.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 09:36 PM (ynpvh)
That sounds really good! I was in Thailand for a conference and the McDonald there fried their fries in coconut oil, and had fried pineapple pies - oh my goodness!!!!
Posted by: moki at December 12, 2025 09:39 PM (wLjpr)
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237
Jolli-Bee (a Filipino fried chicken place) has mango pies that they sell; they're pretty good.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 09:36 PM (ynpvh)
That sounds really good! I was in Thailand for a conference and the McDonald there fried their fries in coconut oil, and had fried pineapple pies - oh my goodness!!!!
Posted by: moki at December 12, 2025 09:39 PM (wLjpr)
McD's and Jolli-Bee's pies are best when heated up...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 09:40 PM (ynpvh)
239 Now damn it Bif. Don't hold it in. Talk to us. Let it out. Tell us how you really feel.
Posted by: Diogenes
Yes, sir. I'll just go down to the motor poll and fuck with the motor warrant. You mind if I take Delta battery's BC's blazer out joy rinding? I promise to park it fucked up, with mud dripping off it at the front of the Delta battery line of vehicles where the SGM can see it when he strolls in at 1600 on Friday afternoon. I know that rat bastard did you dirty at staff call and he needs a come uppence.
#don't mess with chief's bC
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 12, 2025 09:41 PM (QVmho)
240 The cherry pie and the McDonaldland cookies. does anyone know why they stopped selling them? It seems like a lot of people remember them fondly.
Posted by: moki
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Fast Burger, here, sells a chocolate chip cookie for $2 and a brownie for $4.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 09:41 PM (OfmEX)
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The cherry pie and the McDonaldland cookies. does anyone know why they stopped selling them? It seems like a lot of people remember them fondly.
Posted by: moki at December 12, 2025 09:35 PM (wLjpr)
Jolli-Bee (a Filipino fried chicken place) has mango pies that they sell; they're pretty good.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 09:36 PM (ynpvh)
My Local McD's still sells cookies. It is up to the franchise.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 12, 2025 09:41 PM (mP0Kj)
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233 Where can I get schrod?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 09:32 PM
In before Wesley Crusher admires your usage of the past pluperfect.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 09:38 PM (0sNs1)
Eh, it's no pluperfect passive progressive.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 09:41 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2025 09:44 PM (pkeXY)
244For some measures of "clean". I see my cats lick their a**holes and later lick their bodies...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 09:24 PM (ynpvh)
and they still wind up smelling like clean laundry and happiness.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 09:45 PM (rbvCR)
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 09:46 PM (3GGcJ)
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I want a pineapple fried pie with some French Fries fried in coconut oil.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 09:46 PM (OfmEX)
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bucees has a version of apple which is pretty much the old deep fried magma which mcdonalds sold
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 09:47 PM (3GGcJ)
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and they still wind up smelling like clean laundry and happiness.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 09:45 PM (rbvCR)
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As opposed to dogs finding a pile of deer shit and rolling in it.
I'm sure they smell like angels and pumpkin spice.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 12, 2025 09:49 PM (NFX2v)
251As opposed to dogs finding a pile of deer shit and rolling in it.
I'm sure they smell like angels and pumpkin spice.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 12, 2025 09:48 PM (ZOv7s)
My niece still has the carpet in her living room tore up to the floorboards from when her beloved dog went "up the woods out back" and ate half a dead and putrefying deer, and came home to puke it up in the living room.
She may be waiting for carpet to come on sale again, or she might just like having the memory of that dog, who has since passed.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 09:52 PM (rbvCR)
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Paging F5, paging F5, impatience it waiting.
She's tapping her foot with hands on her hips.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 09:54 PM (OfmEX)
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and they still wind up smelling like clean laundry and happiness.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 09:45 PM (rbvCR)
Well, I guess what we know what to rub on kindl when he passes out.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 09:54 PM (zZu0s)
Jeff Konczak of Alpena, Michigan, along with Gun Lake Investments of Grand Rapids, Michigan, bought the rights to Hot 'n Now in October 2024. Through a partnership known as HNN Holdings, Konczak announced plans to open new Hot 'n Now locations in Alpena and Grand Rapids in 2025. The first such location was announced for opening in Wayland, Michigan in October 2025. Wayland, Michigan's location opened for business on October 13, 2025.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2025 10:02 PM (pkeXY)
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Hurry up! You're missing the NOOD ONT
https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=417687
Surprise! Maryland Governor and Candidate for Democrat Nominee for President Wes Moore Has Long History of Lying About His War Record and Academic Record
Maryland governor Wes Moore, now considered a serious prospect for the 2028 Democratic presidential nomination, got his big break in 2006. Fresh off a one-year deployment to Afghanistan, President George W. Bush awarded Moore, then 27, a White House fellowship, a prestigious, year-long internship during which he served as a special assistant to then-secretary of state Condoleezza Rice. It put Moore on the path to ultimately becoming Maryland's governor, and he won the fellowship--in the turbulent years after 9/11--claiming to be a "foremost expert" on radical Islam thanks to his academic work at Oxford University.
"As a Rhodes Scholar, I took advantage of the opportunity and examined radical Islam in the Western Hemisphere," Moore wrote in his application to serve as a White House fellow, indicating that he had graduated from Oxford in 2003 with a Master of Letters, or MLitt, in international relations. "I completed my degree with honors and my research has led me to be touted as one of the foremost experts on the threat." The White House parroted the claim in a press release announcing the 2006 fellowship class, borrowing from Moore's application to note that his Oxford thesis, which it said was titled The Rise and Ramifications of Radical Islam in the Western Hemisphere, had "earned him praise as one of the foremost experts on the topic."
That a 27-year-old could claim to be a "foremost expert" on the Islamic threat based on a year at an American military base in Afghanistan and two years at Oxford could be excused away as an ambitious young man's puffery. But on close examination, Moore's claims of expertise and of being a serious scholar completely unravel, as do his claims, also on his White House fellowship application, that he was working toward an Oxford doctorate.
The problems start with confusion--which neither Moore's staff nor Oxford's registrars were willing or able to clear up--about when Moore completed his studies, when he received his degree, whether he submitted his thesis, and what the title of the work was.
In his White House fellowship application--which is public record--Moore wrote that he graduated from Oxford in 2003. But in the résumé attached to that application, Moore reported a different graduation date: June 2004.
Asked to reconcile the two dates, a spokesman for the governor didn't provide a photograph of Moore's degree, but rather, a "degree confirmation," generated last week by Oxford's registrar's office, indicating Moore completed his graduate studies as a full-time student and "has been awarded the degree," but has not yet been issued a formal certificate. The "degree confirmation" generated by Oxford gives another contradictory date, showing that Moore completed his full-time graduate studies in November of 2005, a full four years after he began his Oxford studies, though a master's degree typically takes two years to earn.
According to Moore, by November 2005, the month when Oxford now says Moore completed his master's studies, he was serving in the 82nd Airborne Division in Afghanistan. He also says he began working as an investment banker at Deutsche Bank in London in March 2004.
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The story does fit a narrative, Moussa is right about that. But it is one that is likely to be problematic for Moore, just as it was for Minnesota governor Tim Walz (D.) when he stepped onto the national stage. The narrative, backed now by well-established matters of fact, is that when you scratch the surface of many of Moore's braggadocious claims, there is something off, something a little untruthful about them. Moore claims to have been a doctoral candidate after he received his master's degree, for example, but he and Oxford declined to provide the name of his academic adviser or any evidence he was enrolled as such.
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The mystery surrounding the title of and content of Moore's thesis could be resolved with a cursory review of the document. But that, too, poses a problem for Moore. His office could not produce a copy of the document since we began requesting it in early November.
And good luck finding it at Oxford's legendary Bodleian Library, which archives all MLitt theses from the university's graduate students. A senior librarian told the Free Beacon she couldn't find "any trace" of Moore's paper, because he never submitted it.
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The confusion about when and where Moore was when he was doing his graduate studies--along with the convenient change in the title and subject matter of his missing thesis--is part of a pattern of self-serving, self-aggrandizing, and not entirely true claims that have persistently dogged, yet heretofore not tripped up, the ambitious Democrat.
Moore has a long history of Biden-like and "Danang Dick" like embellishment of his academic record and war record.
>b?Moore claimed on his 2006 White House fellowship application, for example, to have been inducted into the Maryland College Football Hall of Fame, an organization that doesn't exist; that he received a Bronze Star for his service in Afghanistan, which he had not; and that he was born in Baltimore, which he was not.
And of course he claims to be from the 'hood but he's really the son of a comfortable middle class family.
If this Black Walter Mitty is a world-renowned expert on Islamic terrorism, why have no other terrorism experts ever heard of him?
The questions and discrepancies surrounding Moore's missing graduate thesis notwithstanding, his claim to be a "foremost expert" on the threat of radical Islam is ridiculous.
"I have never come across Gov. Moore's name in the course of my academic life," said the French political scientist Gilles Kepel, described by the New York Times as "France's most famous scholar of Islam."
Several other prominent academics in the field, including Lorenzo Vidino, the director of the Program of Extremism at George Washington University, said they've never heard of Moore in the context of any scholarly work.
"I have been studying political Islam in the West for the last 25 years and Moore's name has never popped up on my radar," Vidino told the Free Beacon. "It's a small, niche field, I'd know."
Former CIA case officer Reuel Marc Gerecht, now a scholar of Islamic terrorism at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, said he's never heard of Moore in the context of his expertise in Islamic terrorism.
"If there was an up-and-coming scholar in radical Islam, if he had written something novel, then yes, I would certainly have heard of it," Gerecht said. "This is news to me."
Posted by: Democrat Defense at December 12, 2025 06:36 PM (krQz2)
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If your going to lie make it a biggie.
Joseph Goebbles
Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 06:37 PM (sDNVV)
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Rather than whining about people like this right-wingers should just accept that Dims and their supporters are like this and lean into the situation. Be caustic when dealing with the moronic Dims you have to converse with. Make sure that you know what little shits they are and what they happily vote for.
And never, never bother debating with them. Dims are like Commies. They never 'lose' debates because they just reinvent terminology.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 12, 2025 06:37 PM (UdiE9)
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Well if watched some war movies then had nightmares about it that would qualify for some awards wouldn't it?
Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 06:37 PM (Ia/+0)
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A troll gets a first?? Really???
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 06:35 PM
OK, which one of you Morons crossed the streams?!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 06:39 PM (jdPY0)
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Moore's Law: Lie about your experience to get more votes.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 06:39 PM (ynpvh)
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Well, at least Wes Moore wasn't be going around signing youngins yearbooks and trying to get in they pants at the Orange Julius. Great googly moogly!
Posted by: Alabama Hayseed Voter at December 12, 2025 06:40 PM (R/m4+)
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For a long time I have not been a big fan of Jingle Bells.
I'll just have to remember to tell others that its racist.
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:40 PM (krQz2)
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13 A troll gets a first?? Really???
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 06:35 PM
OK, which one of you Morons crossed the streams?!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 06:39 PM (jdPY0)
Well, he ain't no 100 ft-tall StayPuff Marshmallow Man...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 06:40 PM (ynpvh)
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If your going to lie make it a biggie.
Joseph Goebbles
Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 06:37 PM
I invented the tilde.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 06:40 PM (jdPY0)
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What can you expect from a state that elects someone with the last name of “Alsobrooks?”
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 06:41 PM (77rzZ)
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16 For a long time I have not been a big fan of Jingle Bells.
I'll just have to remember to tell others that its racist.
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:40 PM (krQz2)
"White Christmas"...obviously racist and Islamophobic.
"Silent Night"...disses the deaf
...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 06:42 PM (ynpvh)
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Leave Wesley Moore alone. He's a fine man who has served his country honorably. We fought together in Vietnam.
Posted by: Dick Blumenthal at December 12, 2025 06:42 PM (98kQX)
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3 A troll gets a first?? Really???
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 06:35 PM
OK, which one of you Morons crossed the streams?!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 06:39 PM (jdPY0)
Well, he ain't no 100 ft-tall StayPuff Marshmallow Man...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 06:40 PM (ynpvh)
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Now we just need to find equally large graham crackers and a bar of chocolate...
22Moore claimed on his 2006 White House fellowship application, for example, to have been inducted into the Maryland College Football Hall of Fame, an organization that doesn't exist; that he received a Bronze Star for his service in Afghanistan, which he had not; and that he was born in Baltimore, which he was not.
No doubt that Moore is Democrat Presidential nominee material, then.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 06:42 PM (6ydKt)
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18 If your going to lie make it a biggie.
Joseph Goebbles
Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 06:37 PM
I invented the tilde.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 06:40 PM (jdPY0)
That was my parents.
Posted by: Tilda Swinton at December 12, 2025 06:43 PM (ynpvh)
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What can you expect from a state that elects someone with the last name of “Alsobrooks?”
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 06:41 PM (77rzZ)
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Albert Brooks >> Alsobrooks.
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:43 PM (krQz2)
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Now we just need to find equally large graham crackers and a bar of chocolate...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 06:42 PM
Assume a spherical marshmallow of radius R...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 06:43 PM (jdPY0)
Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 06:44 PM (sDNVV)
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Pretty fucking stupid. The precedent has already been set. Just being a Black Man qualifies him to be President. There was no need to enhance his resume. Plus he's an Authentic African American, not a pretender like the JEF.
Posted by: davidt at December 12, 2025 06:44 PM (Q+gd/)
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Can we also note Moore walked in to a surplus and now, this short time later, a deficit?
None of this will matter. Walz looks like a frog, he could be questioned about his lies. Wes Moore is handsome. Calling him out will not be allowed.
Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 06:44 PM (ZdaMQ)
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RMBS, I knew you had a flirty side.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 06:44 PM
{{{Ben Had}}}
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 06:44 PM (jdPY0)
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 06:45 PM (6ydKt)
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That's what I was thinking was ASS's criteria.
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:45 PM (krQz2)
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Asked to reconcile the two dates, a spokesman for the governor didn't provide a photograph of Moore's degree, but rather, a "degree confirmation," gene
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Echoes of Barky's birth certificate, and SS registration.
Posted by: Wes moore at December 12, 2025 06:46 PM (XeU6L)
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osted by: Alabama Hayseed Voter at December 12, 2025 06:40 PM (R/m4+)
I think I am offended by this!
Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 06:46 PM (ZdaMQ)
Pfft. I have TWO inventions to my name.
— Guy who invented the diaeresis AND the umlaut
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 06:47 PM (77rzZ)
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Man, today's posts have really been a cavalcade of gloom, betrayal, corruption and general awfulness. I don't know whether to turn my face to the wall, or grab a rifle.
Probably the latter. Might as well; Pacos been fightin' on the losin' side since the Civil War.
Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 06:47 PM (2L+MU)
38Assume a spherical marshmallow of radius R...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 06:43 PM
May we assume a STP density of 0.461 kg/m^^3?
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at December 12, 2025 06:47 PM (0sNs1)
Delivered in an almost-sad way, as if whoever is still challenging him on these long-settled issues of years gone by is a pathetic fanatic who should get a nice injection of thorazine.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 06:49 PM (1N/bM)
43
I couldn't have gone with the question mark. We'd be up to our eyes in Dr. Evil's Father socks.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 06:48 PM (jdPY0)
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You have to ask yourself what would we do without the question mark
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:49 PM (krQz2)
44Pacos been fightin' on the losin' side since the Civil War.
Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 06:47 PM
It's time to change that, and realize that Big Penguin is only using you.
Depart the misguided and mephitic Spheniscidae. For once, fight for Truth, Justice, and the American Way.
Come to the light side. We have brisket and Southern biscuits!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 06:51 PM (0sNs1)
45
I'm really starting to wonder why Michigan head coaches seem to get arrested as much as Illinois governors.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 06:51 PM (6ydKt)
Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2025 06:51 PM (YwEeS)
47
So the WH, or at least Bush's WH, does not bother to verify any details when you apply for a fellowship?
Did they at least have DO4? paperwork, did Moore even actually serve in Afghanistan or was he still at Oxford?
Posted by: PaleRider at December 12, 2025 06:51 PM (hhkIi)
48
How about the interrobang, huh? Who takes credit for THAT monstrosity?
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 06:51 PM (77rzZ)
49
"Wes moore won rafiky against the GOP candidate
Moore won with 65% of the vote. Dems are only 50% of the vote
Independents voted for him
Most GOP considered him a trump fanatic'
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Aliassmithsmith Johnson is right!
/that is some authentic frontier gibberish right there
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2025 06:52 PM (9ipOP)
50
He is a democrat of course he is lying. It's their nature.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 12, 2025 06:52 PM (0N4FZ)
51
Moore's Thesis went straight to a burn pit in Afghanistan, tended by Beau Biden, who contracted serial leprosy, which led to his demise, forcing his retard brother Hunter to become the family bagman.
Posted by: Dem Follies at December 12, 2025 06:52 PM (oftw2)
52 Stolen Valor, Stolen Curriculum Vitae
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Really raises the bar for Dem politicians. Next guy's going to have to do a quadruple toe-loop.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 06:52 PM (1N/bM)
Posted by: No Name Today at December 12, 2025 06:53 PM (8mulE)
Lipstick?
Posted by: davidt at December 12, 2025 06:55 PM (Q+gd/)
5747 Come to the light side. We have brisket and Southern biscuits! - Duncanthrax
Pshaw! I know for a fact it's just Bisquick! And I bet your green beans are crunchy, like in them ooh-la-la places CBD frequents.
Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 06:56 PM (2L+MU)
58
Moore's Thesis went straight to a burn pit in Afghanistan, tended by Beau Biden, who contracted serial leprosy, which led to his demise, forcing his retard brother Hunter to become the family bagman.
Posted by: Dem Follies at December 12, 2025 06:52 PM (oftw2)
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While I was reading your post, Beau Biden died again.
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:58 PM (krQz2)
59
"Pay no attention to the (hundreds of) men behind the curtain. I AM the Great and Powerful OZ".
Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2025 06:58 PM (vbXSk)
60
His supporters do not feel like they had none pulled over on them.
Not one of them said "oh he's a Rhodes Scholar that is why I am voting for him."
They wanted to hear how much he would lie to Republicans. And he's not going to retract or apologize.
Posted by: blaster at December 12, 2025 06:58 PM (RoO7G)
61 OMG! I just about died laughing.
Link goes to 9gag. Very vietnam.
https://9gag.com/gag/amoOZGj
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 12, 2025 06:58 PM (QVmho)
62
'If this Black Walter Mitty is a world-renowned expert on Islamic terrorism, why have no other terrorism experts ever heard of him?'
The answer's obvious: The other terrorism experts are the frauds.
I can't believe Ace is stooping to a racist attack on a Person of Color just because he's a DEI clown who's incompetent and lies all the time.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 12, 2025 06:58 PM (fd80v)
63
Pshaw! I know for a fact it's just Bisquick! And I bet your green beans are crunchy, like in them ooh-la-la places CBD frequents.
Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 06:56 PM (2L+MU)
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Where CBD was radicalized against syrup!!
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:58 PM (krQz2)
64
Paco, Duncanthrax uses White Lily flour exclusively.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 06:59 PM (sDNVV)
65 Wes Moore is handsome. Calling him out will not be allowed.
Posted by: Piper
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DEIQ
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 06:59 PM (1N/bM)
66Pshaw! I know for a fact it's just Bisquick!
Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 06:56 PM
No, we have true Southern biscuits. The ones that use the #1 ingredient required for true, fluffy Southern biscuits.
White Lily flour. Made from winter wheat. Accept no substitutes, unless you live in New York City, where picante sauce is not properly appreciated.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 07:00 PM (0sNs1)
67Pshaw! I know for a fact it's just Bisquick! And I bet your green beans are crunchy, like in them ooh-la-la places CBD frequents.
Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 06:56 PM (2L+MU)
Just Bisquick?
And I suppose your mother was just a mother.
Posted by: blaster at December 12, 2025 07:00 PM (RoO7G)
68
Wes Moore is the Claudine Gay of Joe Bidens of Tim Walzes of "Danang" Dick Blumenthals of John F'ing Kerrys of Barack Obamas of Kamala Harrises of Robert MacDonalds of John Walshes of Bette Midlers.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 07:00 PM (25a1J)
69 I have a Ph.D in Green Beret SEAL Ranger Recon. Got the Distinguished Service Cross for it too!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 07:00 PM (tgvbd)
70 Pshaw! I know for a fact it's just Bisquick! And I bet your green beans are crunchy, like in them ooh-la-la places CBD frequents.
Posted by: Paco
Ooooo. Oooooo. Bisquick!
Smash has a sausage, shreeded cheese, and bisquick recipe dhe wants to try. Baked sausage balls. I'm already calling it scheutty balls.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 12, 2025 07:01 PM (QVmho)
First, I'm really enjoying these videos. Like when I read his blog, I feel smarter afterwards.
Also, that SUIT!
But TJM needs a sign off. For example, Jerome Weiselberry waves and does a squeaky high pitched "bye!" At the end of her reviews. TJM needs something like that, but manlier.
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 07:01 PM (1Yy3c)
The sausage balls are awesome. I've made them for years.
Posted by: fourseasons at December 12, 2025 07:03 PM (3ek7K)
79White Lily flour. Made from winter wheat. Accept no substitutes, unless you live in New York City, where picante sauce is not properly appreciated.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 07:00 PM (0sNs1)
The King Biscuit Flour Hour has entered the chat.
Posted by: blaster at December 12, 2025 07:03 PM (RoO7G)
Posted by: Schweady at December 12, 2025 07:03 PM (Q+gd/)
81But TJM needs a sign off. For example, Jerome Weiselberry waves and does a squeaky high pitched "bye!" At the end of her reviews. TJM needs something like that, but manlier.
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 07:01 PM
So, jazz hands and/or uptwinkles are out?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 07:03 PM (0sNs1)
82 Where CBD was radicalized against syrup!!
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:58 PM (krQz2)
__________
He was molested by Mrs. Butterworth.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 07:03 PM (tgvbd)
83This is no disqualifier for a Democrat politician.
Imagine how he'd have no chance at all if he'd said that he fantasized about murdering the wife -- and their children in her arms -- of his political opponent.
Wait, wut?
Indeed, it's essentially a prerequisite.
Both men are now on the VP short-list for the Dem nomination in 2028 ... resume enhancers!
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 07:03 PM (25a1J)
Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 07:04 PM (sDNVV)
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And of course he claims to be from the 'hood but he's really the son of a comfortable middle class family.
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Wes Moore is the Jasmine Ratchet of Kamala Harrises?
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 07:05 PM (25a1J)
88
And never, never bother debating with them. Dims are like Commies. They never 'lose' debates because they just reinvent terminology.
Posted by: the lower depths
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This is absolutely true. My favorites hits of Dem debate style is whataboutism, goal post shifting, and motte and Bailey among others.
When all else fails, pull the emergency cord for to use accusations of racism, sexism, ableism, or some other worthless rhetorical slur designed to insult and make the opposing debater into a inhuman monster.
Aristotle taught you well in argumentation lower depths.
Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 07:05 PM (WDjG6)
89
I am pretty sure that the Dems are going to impeach Trump on a bi-weekly schedule come 2027.
Posted by: blaster at December 12, 2025 07:05 PM (RoO7G)
90
OMG! I just about died laughing.
Link goes to 9gag. Very vietnam.
https://9gag.com/gag/amoOZGj
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 12, 2025 06:58 PM (QVmho)
Holy hell, I'm dying here! LOL!
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 12, 2025 07:05 PM (0aYVJ)
91
Transcripts are overrated. *Where* your transcripts are from is what's important!
Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at December 12, 2025 07:05 PM (0sNs1)
92
Well, if Ben Had says so, I reckon I'll have to take her word. But you'll never seduce me to the anti-Penguin side, Duncanthrax, no matter how fine a table you set.
Not even if you serve apple pie. I mean, if you have apple pie. You, er, don't, do you?
Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 07:06 PM (2L+MU)
93
I saw Black Walter Mitty open for The Dream Syndicate at Rainbow Music Hall in '84.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 07:07 PM (25a1J)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 07:08 PM (npFr7)
95Not even if you serve apple pie. I mean, if you have apple pie. You, er, don't, do you?
Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 07:06 PM
Are you a straight-up apple pie man, or do you prefer a nice slice of sharp cheddar, or a scoop of Blue Bell vanilla to accompany?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 07:08 PM (0sNs1)
96
Some politician is making outrageous claims? Hey, I invented the Internet while having the bestselling novel "Love Story" written about me!
Posted by: Al Gore at December 12, 2025 07:08 PM (CSQvy)
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88 So I had my transcripts requested about 10 or so years after I left college.
How do all of these Obamaesque people get away with no transcripts?
Posted by: rhennigantx
Because they are sociopathic liars even among themselves as everything is struggle to elevate their perceived group status from teh common people.
I have copies of my thesis on disk, printed copy, one in my department's library and my dissertation is available likewise except the dissertation is stowed in the library and on abstract databases.
Have personal and electronic copies of those as well. I even have old typed papers from college if they were important to me.
So, the answer is they lie so frequently that the heuristic is just figure the Democrat (like their auxiliary Main Stream Media) is lying when their lips move.
Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 07:08 PM (WDjG6)
98
Trump releases surprise Christmas Album. Babylon Bee:
https://tinyurl.com/mvrynywt
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 07:08 PM (rZCVI)
99
It also appear he has 3 or 4 names to his fake Dissertation.
About 1998 my wife wrote her thesis and we spent about $2000 to publish 4 or 6 copies to make it legal.
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 12, 2025 07:08 PM (gbOdA)
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72
I have a Ph.D in Green Beret SEAL Ranger Recon. Got the Distinguished Service Cross for it too!
Posted by: Hadrian
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Hadrian, we hardly know ye!!!
Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 07:10 PM (WDjG6)
101Are you a straight-up apple pie man, or do you prefer a nice slice of sharp cheddar, or a scoop of Blue Bell vanilla to accompany?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 07:08 PM (0sNs1)
psst - the Blue Bell reference is a hint.
Posted by: blaster at December 12, 2025 07:10 PM (RoO7G)
102
Lol. Clown judge Bonerburger had his tantrum hearing stayed.
2 R judge to 1.
But I'm sure they will rule for him after briefing
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 07:11 PM (G6PFE)
103
I am pretty sure that the Dems are going to impeach Trump on a bi-weekly schedule come 2027
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The predicate here, is that Americans will just continue to put up with ever more and increasing levels of outrageous bullshit in perpetuity.
Is that a safe bet? Maybe. May be “Not”.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 07:11 PM (SH3As)
104
85
Where CBD was radicalized against syrup!!
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:58 PM (krQz2)
__________
He was molested by Mrs. Butterworth.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 07:03 PM (tgvbd)
Damn it, you guys! LOL!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 07:11 PM (ynpvh)
105
I can vouch for Wes Moore. He and I were in the Parachute Ski Marines together. We saved each others' lives, twice. Well, I'll never forget that time, over Macho Grande, which is seared into my memory...
Posted by: John Kerry at December 12, 2025 07:12 PM (CSQvy)
Posted by: Martin "Les" Luther Moore at December 12, 2025 07:12 PM (oftw2)
107
Aliassmithsmith Johnson is right!
/that is some authentic frontier gibberish right there
Posted by: San Franpsycho
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Hard for him to type with his mouth full and occupied.
Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 07:12 PM (WDjG6)
108
It's time to change that, and realize that Big Penguin is only using you.
Depart the misguided and mephitic Spheniscidae. For once, fight for Truth, Justice, and the American Way.
Come to the light side. We have brisket and Southern biscuits!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 06:51 PM (0sNs1)
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Do Adélie Penguins eat Andouille Sausage -- and if so, does that make them cannibals?
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 07:12 PM (25a1J)
109
For what it's worth, I'm sitting on a sold out theater waiting for the start of the live Unsubscribe Podcast. In MA. There may be hope.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 07:13 PM (jdPY0)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 07:14 PM (jdPY0)
114
But TJM needs a sign off. For example, Jerome Weiselberry waves and does a squeaky high pitched "bye!" At the end of her reviews. TJM needs something like that, but manlier.
Posted by: Robert
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Mooning the audience? Juggling chainsaws? Sword swallowing? or maybe just blowing fire at the camera?
Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 07:14 PM (WDjG6)
115
May we assume a STP density of 0.461 kg/m^^3?
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at December 12, 2025 06:47 PM (0sNs1)
This seems heavy for a marshmallow
Fuck. Now I have to look it up.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 07:14 PM (zZu0s)
11698 Are you a straight-up apple pie man, or do you prefer a nice slice of sharp cheddar, or a scoop of Blue Bell vanilla to accompany? - Duncanthrax
I'm a purist. Why, if I had ever put cheese on a piece of apple pie, the family would have accused me of puttin' on airs. And no ice cream; as good as that sounds, it's like jammin' a cork in your aorta.
Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 07:15 PM (2L+MU)
117 Dear heavens, my dissertation was a tribute to how little you can accomplish and I still get through. And this guy had to make it up out of the whole cloth?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 07:15 PM (tgvbd)
118
Perhaps TJM can use the Ferris Bueller real ending. Cut to him with a bathroom wandering into his movie room when he notices the camera is still on and he chastises the audience for still watching.
Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 07:16 PM (WDjG6)
119
He was molested by Mrs. Butterworth.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 07:03 PM (tgvbd)
Posted by: Martin "Les" Luther Moore at December 12, 2025 07:12 PM (oftw2)
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Didn't you play running back at Syracuse University ahead of Jim Brown (who won the Heisman that year) and against Joe Biden when he was playing flanker back ahead of Roger Staubach (who later won the Heisman as a quarterback)?
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 07:17 PM (25a1J)
123
117
Dear heavens, my dissertation was a tribute to how little you can accomplish and I still get through. And this guy had to make it up out of the whole cloth?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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Sort of like no one remembers Obama at Columbia, few at Occidental, and he did nothing while 'president' of Harvard Law Review.
Constitutional scholar, my ass.
Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 07:18 PM (WDjG6)
124
How do all of these Obamaesque people get away with no transcripts?
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 12, 2025 07:04 PM (gbOdA)
Well, you see, when my mom, a whore, met my dad, a drunken philanderer and ne'er-do-well, well, I was born. I pretended to be this when I was that and that when I was this. No need to look to closely at my birth certificate either. Hope and change baby! Hope and change! Let me be clear...you can keep your doctor.
Posted by: Barack Obama, Let Me Be Clear at December 12, 2025 07:18 PM (R/m4+)
125 When all else fails, pull the emergency cord for to use accusations of racism, sexism, ableism, or some other worthless rhetorical slur designed to insult and make the opposing debater into a inhuman monster.
"Debate" American Style: Our Top Orators in Action
https://youtu.be/fmO-ziHU_D8
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2025 07:19 PM (pkeXY)
126
Are you a straight-up apple pie man, or do you prefer a nice slice of sharp cheddar, or a scoop of Blue Bell vanilla to accompany?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 07:08 PM (0sNs1)
I have read about people...deeply disturbed people...who put cheddar on their apple pie.
But I prefer to believe in the innate goodness of people, and choose to think that all people understand the rightness of vanilla ice cream on apple pie.
Maryland is like Illinois with its governors
they go to jail, get indicted, what have you
Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 07:19 PM (ZxPkt)
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115 May we assume a STP density of 0.461 kg/m^^3?
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at December 12, 2025 06:47 PM (0sNs1)
This seems heavy for a marshmallow
Fuck. Now I have to look it up.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 07:14 PM (zZu0s)
Depends on whose number you use for density.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 07:20 PM (ynpvh)
129
Are you a straight-up apple pie man, or do you prefer a nice slice of sharp cheddar, or a scoop of Blue Bell vanilla to accompany?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 07:08 PM (0sNs1)
Slice of sharp Cheddar on top, then 30 seconds in the nuker to warm the pie, and melt the cheese. Perfection!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 07:20 PM (npFr7)
130
Wes Moore isn't in any sports Hall of Fame that I could find. The left knows half or more of what they say to each other isn't true. But they're on the same team and Bill Clinton paved the way for the truth and morality to have no real meaning so long as we're all wearing the same uniform.
Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 07:20 PM (TN0g+)
That's an impressive stream of inappropriate content.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 12, 2025 07:21 PM (fd80v)
132
May we assume a STP density of 0.461 kg/m^^3?
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at December 12, 2025 06:47 PM (0sNs1)
This seems heavy for a marshmallow
Fuck. Now I have to look it up.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 07:14 PM (zZu0s)
Depends on whose number you use for density.
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Perhaps the marshmallows could be explained by migration?
Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 07:21 PM (TN0g+)
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I'd have to get out the pad and paper to do the conversion factor to kg/cubic meter
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 07:16 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 07:53 PM (krQz2)
139
Maybe we need some sort of legislation that says if any part of a politician's biography is cooked up/inflated, he/she is immediately ejected from office, and barred from further public office.
Posted by: Occasional Commenter at December 12, 2025 08:04 PM (MV++E)
140
Mr Moore looks like he might be a little light in the loafers NTTAWWT
Posted by: kelly at December 13, 2025 12:24 AM (GxGGi)
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