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Saturday Night "Club ONT" December 13, 2025 [The 3 Ds]

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Welcome to the first Club ONT Christmas Party. Brought to you by a collaboration the 3D's - The Disco, The Dino, and The Doggo. Special shout out to Club friend, commenter, and bartender extraordinaire, JQ for the decorating.

We have music, ugly sweaters, questionably strong drinks, a wobbly table, snacks, and some fun content. Tonight is about good friends, good company, and making memories.

JQ spiffy'd the place up a bit. [doggo says] Please note the proper white lights have been deployed.

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[Disco says: They're nice but not as festive as colored lights. I'm not wearing freshly pressed khakis, a fine linen shirt, and penny loafers, so not sure I belong in those areas of the Club. I'll hang out where I won't be judged for wearing well-worn jeans, an ugly seater, and scuffed-up boots.]

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Hobo Santa will be setting up in one of these locations this evening. You'd think he'd be drinking a peppermint martini or hot buttered rum. Nope, straight for the bourbon. Keep the interns away if he brings up "North Pole After Hours."

Did someone pick up the Santa suit from the dry cleaners?

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Did you bring your gift? The White Elephant gift exchange will be held on the patio. Where re-gifting (which we'll talk about below) and/or stealing becomes all out warfare. Like Hunger Games. Or an MLB draft war room.

Funniest this D has seen was someone wrapped a Playgirl magazine. Which was amusing enough as a hetero guy got it first. The laughs grew (no pun - but should be) as the gifter had removed all the "special" pages. Here is a link to some pretty good ones. What about the Horde? Best White Elephant moments?

2. Dancing animatronic Christmas dolls. The weirder, the better. One year we received a be-bopping fuzzball with ogling eyes and a beak that dances and sings to the tune of "Deck the Halls" in a jazz voice.

3. A selection of Christmas Carols on 8 track or cassette tape.

4. Self-help or promotional video tapes or audio cassettes from the 1970s.

To kick off the White Elephant gift game, whoever has comment number 56, please collect the first gift (pictured below) - your very own Kamala Harris bobblehead, courtesy of the 3D's. You can keep it or select another gift from the table. (Don't mind that large present that suspiciously looks like a 39 foot dinosaur.)

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Saturday Night Jokes and Other Funnies

What is a vegan's favorite Christmas song? Soy to the World.

What do you call a Christmas themed stripper? Holly Daze.

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There was a man who worked for the Post Office whose job was to process all the mail that had illegible addresses.

One day, a letter came addressed in shaky handwriting to God with no address. He thought he should open it to see what it was about. The letter read: Dear God, I am an 83-year-old widow, living on a very small pension. Yesterday someone stole my purse. It had £100 in it, which was all the money I had until my next pension cheque. Next Sunday is Christmas, and I had invited two of my friends over for dinner. Without that money, I have nothing to buy food with. I have no family to turn to, and you are my only hope. Can you please help me? Sincerely, Edna.

The postal worker was touched. He showed the letter to all the other workers. Each one dug into his or her wallet and came up with a few pounds. By the time he made the rounds, he had collected £96, which they put into an envelope and sent to the woman. For the rest of the day, all the workers felt a warm glow, thinking of Edna and the dinner she would be able to share with her friends. Christmas came and went.

A few days later, another letter came from the same old lady to God. All the workers gathered around while the letter was opened. It read: Dear God, How can I ever thank you enough for what you did for me? Because of your gift of love, I was able to fix a glorious dinner for my friends. We had a very nice day and I told my friends of your wonderful gift. By the way, £ 4 was missing. I think it must have been those halfwits at the Post Office!

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Drinks of the Night

Tonight we proudly feature a big ol' cauldron of Jingle Juice!

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Step 1
Rub rims of glasses with lime wedges. Dip into sugar until coated.

Step 2
In a punch bowl, combine Moscato, Prosecco, Cran-Apple juice, cranberries, vodka, mint, and lime rounds. Divide among prepared glasses.

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For Our Patrons Who No Do Not Partake

We also have a cauldron for you! How about some Sparkling Pear & Orange Champagne Punch?

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Combine sparkling wine, pear nectar, and orange bitters in a punch bowl. Top with an ice ring (optional). Serve with strips of orange zest.

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Ugly Sweaters

Here's the one Disco is wearing tonight

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Yes, the flask is full. Guess what bourbon is in the flask (brand and proof) and you'll win a date with Hobo Santa!

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White Elephant time again!

Comment #99 - you're up. Come collect this fine piece of fashion!

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"It's a beaut, Clark!"


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A large animatronic TRex in a Christmas sweater? Of course! Those wacky Brits...

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Club ONT Christmas Party Games

Club Bingo. Take a drink any time one of the items on the grid is mentioned in the comments.

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What was the one Christmas gift you hoped and prayed would show up under the tree? And it did! What did you get?

Three Holy Grail gifts for the 3D's. Large Millennium Falcon, Labeda Mark V roller skate wheels, Big Wheel. For 3 restroom tokens, correctly match the D to their childhood obsession. Then share your best in the comments.

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Club ONT Naughty List

Is it really naughty? Or is it brilliance - regifting isn't tacky - it is efficient.

My Mom was given two adorable stuffed bears for her birthday in November by a co-worker. She thought they were cute, but she felt "silly being a 60 year old woman with stuffed animals" So they were put away and not seen again, until a year later when I opened my Xmas present. A beautiful gift basket and the basket were the bears. I almost died laughing, my reaction was "Mom?!?!? You’re a regifter????" to which she simply said, "why not, I would never have them out and I know you liked them and would display them somewhere.” She was right of course, but I was still floored, who knew Mom was a regifter? It simply wasn't possible. Not my Mom. I lost her 2 years later and those two little bears (one an Angel bear) now mean the world to me. I look at them every day and am so glad Mom was a regifter. I know that Angel bear in particular is my Mom watching over me and letting me know everything is ok. I was never a regifter, but I believe in it now.

Fess up. Who has re-gifted a Christmas present?

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Work Christmas Party horror stories? Surely there will be a few in the comments!

Confession 6: “No idea what happened, but I woke up on a train in Edinburgh (from Birmingham).”

Confession 13. “I stole my boss’s desk plant. I still have it, I’ve just never had the guts to give it back. He’s sent angry emails around and everything.”

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Club ONT Music


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Top 10ish Comments of the Week


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Club ONT was brought to you by: Christmas in the 1970s

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Don't forget to pick up your 2025 Club ONT Christmas Party Commemorative Plate before you leave:

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NOTICE: While the commemorative plates are free to all guests, we do need a way to help offset the cost of tonight's party. As such, The Club is offering these Limited Edition Commemorative Coins for purchase!

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They are available for $20 (same as in town).

But wait - there's more!

Each coin also serves as a "master token" at Club restrooms. That's right - you'll never have to purchase a Club ONT restroom token ever again!

But we're not done yet!!

Each coin entitles the bearer to a free "Club ONT Crypto Coin"! No, those don't exist yet, but when they do - WOOHOO, you'll be sittin' pretty!

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Club ONT regrets the absence of live music for the Club ONT Christmas Party. Arrangements were made for Missile Toe and the South Pole Elves to play the party. you might know their smash hits "Batteries not Included" and "Who left the $%&@$* Legos on the floor?" Unfortunately, Missile Toe ran into transit problems and the Elves are apparently striking for more marshmallows. In related news, plays on the jukebox are free tonight.

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Comments

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1 Yay, ONT!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 13, 2025 10:00 PM (lUFok)

2 Have you finished your Valentine's Day shopping yet? Only 62 days until.

Posted by: mindful webworker - the original at December 13, 2025 10:00 PM (lbDMw)

3 Yo 3D's!!! and the horde, of course

Posted by: Zeera , Damn Right I voted for all of this! at December 13, 2025 10:01 PM (jvxGE)

4 Good evening good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 13, 2025 10:02 PM (cYBz/)

5 Sorry I'm late, I forgot sprinkles on the Christmas cookies.

Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:03 PM (R256O)

6 Sprints to WT#1, saves seats for DDS, Nurse, Marie....and anybody else who would care to pick up the tab.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:04 PM (TfUTr)

7 Yo D's!

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at December 13, 2025 10:05 PM (t/66j)

8 Evenin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 10:05 PM (rii+a)

9 I had that Snoopy album!

Great stuff.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2025 10:07 PM (n9ltV)

10 Does anybody else think that the only proper pose for a Kamala Harris bobblehead is in her knees?

Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:07 PM (R256O)

11 Club Bingo. Take a drink any time one of the items on the grid is mentioned in the comments.
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Do you intend to overload the ER with alcohol-poisoned morons?

Posted by: clarence at December 13, 2025 10:07 PM (sdF4j)

12 Fess up. Who has re-gifted a Christmas present?

Why not? You have three options: keep it and never use it and have the gifter ask where it is; throw it away unused, break it. Seems regifting is the superior option.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 10:08 PM (uQesX)

13 10
‘ Does anybody else think that the only proper pose for a Kamala Harris bobblehead is in her knees?’

It works. You just push down on her head and her mouth opens.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 10:09 PM (fd80v)

14 Nice party, Ds! The Jingle Juice is tasty. I will hang out in the colored light area with other weirdoes, hobos and odd ducks.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 10:10 PM (6p0Jv)

15 Hi! I am here, finally! I made cookies.

Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:11 PM (ZdaMQ)

16 Hello all...sorry the cookies won't have sprinkles...go take it up with Tankdemon...

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 10:12 PM (IQ6Gq)

17 Good evening morons and слава тройке!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:12 PM (OWovX)

18 Thank you for all the past year of Club ONT! The 3Ds do know how to bring it!
(Puts $1.73 in tip jar)

Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:14 PM (TfUTr)

19 What was the one Christmas gift you hoped and prayed would show up under the tree? And it did! What did you get?

The Navaronne.

If your having WWII problems I feel sorry for you, son. I got 99 problems, but lack of Navaronne ain't one.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 13, 2025 10:14 PM (mFz+I)

20 Kamala Harris bobblehead is the wrong suit color, it's got to be brown, gotta be a brown suit. She wore the brown pant suit all the time during the campaign. Ugh.

Posted by: Joemarine at December 13, 2025 10:15 PM (y171U)

21 Great British cooking?

Yeah, even the Brits know that. L3wis, the Jolly boys, and Mr. and Mrs. H say it's nowhere near as good as American cooking.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 10:15 PM (uQesX)

22 They're nice but not as festive as colored lights. I'm not wearing freshly pressed khakis, a fine linen shirt, and penny loafers, so not sure I belong in those areas of the Club. I'll hang out where I won't be judged for wearing well-worn jeans, an ugly seater, and scuffed-up boots
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*side eye*
Who let him in?
/to herself

Posted by: Melissa Cutherbertson-Klein from Groton, CT at December 13, 2025 10:15 PM (OWovX)

23 To kick off the White Elephant gift game, whoever has comment number 56, please collect the first gift (pictured below) - your very own Kamala Harris bobblehead

That's okay...my sister already gave me a Hilary Clinton big-assed figurine for my birthday one year...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:15 PM (ynpvh)

24 10 Does anybody else think that the only proper pose for a Kamala Harris bobblehead is in her knees?

Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:07 PM (R256O)



Yes! And if it's made out of the right kind of plastic you could probably cut the feet off of the base, apply some heat to the knee region, bend the legs back to the appropriate angle, let it cool, then glue it back onto the base on it's knees. Maybe also modify the head bobble mechanism so it only bobbles forward and back.

>

Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 10:16 PM (X5Jzz)

25 I stayed up late just to see this, and it was well worth it. Enjoy the party, you people who can stay up later than I! Had a busy day of baking, more tomorrow.

Posted by: bluebell at December 13, 2025 10:16 PM (79pEw)

26 Thanks for the dandy Club ONT Christmas Party, Disco, Doggo and Dino!

The place looks fabulous!

Par-tay!!!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 13, 2025 10:17 PM (kB9dk)

27 What was the one Christmas gift you hoped and prayed would show up under the tree? And it did! What did you get?


Golf clubs. Got the cheapest Jr set in the world (Delta? Guess they don't just make faucets). I used the hell out of them and still had the putter until a decade ago. I was mid teens when I got them (15-16).

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 10:17 PM (rii+a)

28 There is a little Wang in the punch.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 10:17 PM (gbOdA)

29 Most of the day was spent prototyping a case in blender for the Quark Mini Linux computer and 3D printing it, and also creating terminal aliases and zsh helper functions.

Who knew you could spend an hour deciding how you want your backup time stamp formatted.

And now I am having some bourbon and sour patch gummies.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 13, 2025 10:17 PM (XV/Pl)

30 Great ONT!

Posted by: Moonbeam at December 13, 2025 10:17 PM (rbKZ6)

31 ‘Does anybody else think that the only proper pose for a Kamala Harris bobblehead is in her knees?’

It works. You just push down on her head and her mouth opens.
Posted by: Dr. Claw


The spring should really be mounted horizontally, not vertically.

Posted by: mikeski at December 13, 2025 10:17 PM (nhCoE)

32 Looking at that seventies photo I literally first thought I must have sent it in and forgot. Probably the washed out colors. But the television set helped.

I think I’ve regifted only once. I generally only give gifts that the person has actually asked for or which I could imagine enjoying and using myself. A regift implies something I don’t want, and I’m not going to give something that I wouldn’t want.

I tend to feel the same way about potlucks. I won’t bring anything I wouldn’t enjoy. I always wonder at people who say, oh I can’t/won't eat that but I thought you guys might.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 13, 2025 10:17 PM (EXyHK)

33 There is a little Wang in the punch.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 10:17 PM (gbOdA)

*spits out the Jingle Juice*

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 10:18 PM (6p0Jv)

34 Merry Christmas Bluebell! Glad to see you here. Happy baking...

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 10:19 PM (IQ6Gq)

35 That's okay...my sister already gave me a Hilary Clinton big-assed figurine for my birthday one year...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:15 PM (ynpvh)
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When Obama was president, my husband got our friend's daughter to surreptitiously slip an Obama chia pet kit under the tree for him. Drove our friend crazy for weeks wondering who it was from until my husband finally confessed.

Posted by: bluebell at December 13, 2025 10:19 PM (79pEw)

36 I had to send my iPad back to Apple. This is not great news. I will just sit at the bar and casually swing my legs until someone notices my shoes.

Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:19 PM (ZdaMQ)

37 I am way too late, but this is early for me, Merry Christmas Horde, good to see you. Thank you to JQ and the three D's, its party time!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 13, 2025 10:19 PM (0nHVk)

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My white elephant gift is a 3/8" socket that I've marked 10mm. We'll see if anyone notices.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 13, 2025 10:20 PM (QVmho)

39 "In related news, plays on the jukebox are free tonight."

Sneaks up to jukebox.

Plays "Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer."

Plays it again.

Then again.

Repeat 15 times.

Plays Lindsey Sterling's "Carol of the Bells"

Plays "Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer" five more times.


*I will not be offsetting anybody's costs for therapy.

Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:20 PM (R256O)

40 I had that Snoopy album!

I still have that album!

“Christmas bells, oh Christmas bells, ringing through the land…”

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 13, 2025 10:20 PM (EXyHK)

41 Thank you, Grateful! I stole a peek at the hobby thread and loved that as well.

Posted by: bluebell at December 13, 2025 10:20 PM (79pEw)

42 To kick off the White Elephant gift game, whoever has comment number 56, please collect the first gift (pictured below) - your very own Kamala Harris bobblehead

What number gets the joey biden windup toy that just wanders around the tree?

Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:20 PM (TfUTr)

43 I worked in a large office in a time where there were drunken shenanigans during the Christmas party.

It was the 80s but you young people probably think it was like Mad Men. It wasn't but we did have secretaries who typed our work.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:21 PM (OWovX)

44 Welcome in, party people! Good to see you all. Nice drop in from Bluebell - always good to have armed security. Hope everyone has fun tonight. Wanging Chung is optional.

Posted by: Doof at December 13, 2025 10:21 PM (QMAsf)

45 Tonight I'm 1). pissed off someone just rear-ended my wife's van when her and kid were traveling on the highway. 2). very grateful no one was hurt at all. 2 >>>> 1

Happy Christmas party everyone. I wish I had some nog.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 10:21 PM (3uBP9)

46 good evening DDS...thanks for bringing the meatballs, they are delicious....

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 10:21 PM (IQ6Gq)

47 38
My white elephant gift is a 3/8" socket that I've marked 10mm. We'll see if anyone notices.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 13, 2025 10:20 PM (QVmho)

My idea of Heaven is getting a full set of 10 mm
socket
deep
open
box
box rachet
and
impact

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 10:22 PM (gbOdA)

48 I will not be offsetting anybody's costs for therapy.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:20 PM (R256O)
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As long as you don't play Christmas Shoes (shudder).

The late great Oregon Muse and I shared a great disdain for that awful thing. I miss OMuse but I'm certain that he will never have to hear that song again where he is now.

Posted by: bluebell at December 13, 2025 10:22 PM (79pEw)

49 I shoveled out the drive so I could get to church tomorrow AM. The Ward office sent everyone an email that said services tomorrow were off on account of the day's high being 10 degrees. Gonna watch from home via virtual link.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 10:23 PM (XjTSo)

50 I brought the ugly gingerbread cookies... they taste good though...

Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December 13, 2025 10:23 PM (VCgbV)

51 Wow, what a party! Thanks, 3Ds! Everything came together so nicely, too...

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:23 PM (rdVOm)

52 I figure this may be a good time to ask but wasn't there a COB who was running a predict-it contest for 2025? Did I miss the results?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:24 PM (OWovX)

53 My idea of Heaven is getting a full set of 10 mm
socket
deep
open
box
box rachet
and
impact
Posted by: rhennigantx

Hey, as long as you're gonna lose 'em, go for the whole magilla....

Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:24 PM (TfUTr)

54 41 I stole a peek at the hobby thread and loved that as well.

Posted by: bluebell at December 13, 2025 10:20 PM
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By popular demand (mostly Ben Had demand), we're doing the same theme next week! The Hobby Thread email box is open for submissions...

Posted by: TRex - ornamental dino at December 13, 2025 10:24 PM (IQ6Gq)

55 FL putting the hurt on Dallas Stars.

I'm OK with that

Posted by: Zeera , Damn Right I voted for all of this! at December 13, 2025 10:24 PM (jvxGE)

56 *stumbling into the Club, after wrestling with Moose...carrying a half bottle of vodka and a slightly broken ornament*
Did I make it on time for the party?!
Ima gonna lurch over to that sofa and probably just lurk...
When I come up with some wittisisms, I will be sure to step back in🤪 'cause I know you all are waiting for THAT (sarc)...
Hi Horde!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 13, 2025 10:24 PM (5lbLe)

57 33 There is a little Wang in the punch.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 10:17 PM (gbOdA)

*spits out the Jingle Juice*
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Everybody Wang Chung tonight!
Everybody have fun tonight!

Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 10:25 PM (XjTSo)

58 Evenin', Horde!

While trying to decide between watching Die Hard or a Krampus/Star Trek crossover, I was feeling a bit whelmed, for while I'm not done Christmas Shopping, and the wrapping is not done, the house is decorated with both white lights and colored lights. Earlier in the day, I was at Waffle House (or was it Buc-ee's), where the moose out front in the ugly sweater was hawking egg nog and Christmas cookies for $20 - same as in town.

Ho ho ho, and Merry Christmas!

Drink up.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 13, 2025 10:25 PM (OGOaV)

59 {{{DDS!}}} You chair awaits.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:25 PM (TfUTr)

60 0 I brought the ugly gingerbread cookies... they taste good though...
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at December

I think they are adorable!

Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:25 PM (ZdaMQ)

61 *sends drone with bourbon/nog to Banana Dream*

So glad everyone's ok!

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:25 PM (rdVOm)

62 45 Tonight I'm 1). pissed off someone just rear-ended my wife's van when her and kid were traveling on the highway. 2). very grateful no one was hurt at all. 2 >>>> 1

Happy Christmas party everyone. I wish I had some nog.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 10:21 PM (3uBP9)

Had to go to Costco earlier...made a left turn (two left turn lanes), guy in the lane next to me decided he really wanted to be in my lane. Fortunately I saw what he was doing, hit my brakes and honked the...Tim Walz.
No car-to-car contact.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:25 PM (ynpvh)

63 On Thursday they sent around the work party, food fest, sign-up list, I was on it in 5 seconds writing in meat and cheese tray. The easiest thing, and I got it first. Well the person that brings plates and cups might be easier but I can't go that low.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 10:26 PM (3uBP9)

64 56 *stumbling into the Club, after wrestling with Moose...carrying a half bottle of vodka and a slightly broken ornament*
Did I make it on time for the party?!
Ima gonna lurch over to that sofa and probably just lurk...
When I come up with some wittisisms, I will be sure to step back in🤪 'cause I know you all are waiting for THAT (sarc)...
Hi Horde!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 13, 2025 10:24 PM (5lbLe)

Congrats on the Kumala doll...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:26 PM (ynpvh)

65 52 I figure this may be a good time to ask but wasn't there a COB who was running a predict-it contest for 2025? Did I miss the results?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:24 PM
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Excellent memory. Yes, 'tis me. Results will be published after the new year. There is yet more 2025 to run...

Posted by: TRex - kreskin dino at December 13, 2025 10:26 PM (IQ6Gq)

66 Why is there a TV set on top of the bigger TV set in that 1970s Christmas photo? Were they going to watch 2 of the 3 channels at the same time?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 13, 2025 10:27 PM (Wj1DV)

67 By popular demand (mostly Ben Had demand), we're doing the same theme next week! The Hobby Thread email box is open for submissions...
Posted by: TRex - ornamental dino at December 13, 2025 10:24 PM (IQ6Gq)

Oh good! Because I have a submission I was too late to submit for today.

Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:27 PM (ZdaMQ)

68 I will just sit at the bar and casually swing my legs until someone notices my shoes.
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:19 PM (ZdaMQ)

Are you wearing those elf shoes with the curly toes? Unless they are saddle shoes or have curly toes, I probably won't even realize you have feet.

Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:27 PM (R256O)

69
Have fun.

Posted by: Don Black at December 13, 2025 10:27 PM (ZxPkt)

70 *stumbling into the Club, after wrestling with Moose...carrying a half bottle of vodka and a slightly broken ornament*
Did I make it on time for the party?!
Ima gonna lurch over to that sofa and probably just lurk...
When I come up with some wittisisms, I will be sure to step back in🤪 'cause I know you all are waiting for THAT (sarc)...
Hi Horde!
Posted by: COMountainMarie

Dearie, your seat is reserved, stay away from the couch....JQ got her job on that couch.
(smiley face icon here)

Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:28 PM (TfUTr)

71 56

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 13, 2025 10:24 PM (5lbLe)

Insert zonk sound here.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 10:28 PM (uQesX)

72 69
Have fun.

Posted by: Don Black at December 13, 2025 10:27 PM (ZxPkt)

Somehow that comment # and comment seem related...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:28 PM (ynpvh)

73 >>> *sends drone with bourbon/nog to Banana Dream*
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:25 PM (rdVOm)


I even have the perfect spiced rum for it. With a picture of a jaunty pirate and everything.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 10:28 PM (3uBP9)

74 My parents asked if Smoke the cat wanted a Christmas sweater. I laughed at the idea of stuffing Smoke into such a thing & him being anywhere close to pleased at doing so! Smoke went out to play while I shoveled snow earlier, so he is curled up on the sofa warming up.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 10:28 PM (XjTSo)

75 Thanks for the ONT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 10:28 PM (h4uy9)

76 Evening all,

We have a launch in 2 hours.

SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 15-12
SLC-4E - Vandenberg SFB - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: December 13, 2025 (PST)
Launch Time: 9:49 p.m. PST

https://youtu.be/cLpU4IDPvO8

Posted by: Joyenz at December 13, 2025 10:29 PM (2F0/Y)

77 I predict San Franpsycho will be the first to dance with a lampshade on his head tonight.

I will check Pixy's thread in the morning to see if I am right.

Good night everyone! Have fun!

Posted by: bluebell at December 13, 2025 10:29 PM (79pEw)

78 Why is there a TV set on top of the bigger TV set in that 1970s Christmas photo? Were they going to watch 2 of the 3 channels at the same time?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit
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DIY picture on picture. Probably a sports fanatic's house.

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:29 PM (rdVOm)

79 74 My parents asked if Smoke the cat wanted a Christmas sweater. I laughed at the idea of stuffing Smoke into such a thing & him being anywhere close to pleased at doing so! Smoke went out to play while I shoveled snow earlier, so he is curled up on the sofa warming up.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 10:28 PM (XjTSo)

My sister's dog loves wearing shirts, and gets pissed if one is not put on him...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:29 PM (ynpvh)

80 I worked in a large office in a time where there were drunken shenanigans during the Christmas party.

I started working at my last job around 1991, the computer department of a small private university. The department was of course even smaller, but we still had Christmas parties and there was still serious alcohol. By the time I retired those parties were much more sanitized.

I swear I was not to blame.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 13, 2025 10:29 PM (EXyHK)

81 Die Hard... man.
McCain could have learned about "No wobbly shit" from Weasel when he jumped off that roof tied to a fire hose. (Good thing that table he hid under wasn't wobbly!) And I love the scene where he writes "Ho! Ho! Ho! Now I've got a machine gun" on that dead terrorist's ugly sweater. OK, it was a sweatshirt, but that's just a sweater with the fuzz on the inside. And all of the white lights and colored lights at that helipad on the roof. And that cop would have had a lot better stuff than Twinkies if they had Buc-ees in California.

Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 10:30 PM (KC4YG)

82 so, any crazzzy office Christmas party stories ???

Posted by: runner at December 13, 2025 10:30 PM (g47mK)

83 Speaking of the Seventies Xmas photo, I also owned a wagon like that. Carried a lot of stuff around in it for a while. Then it was used to carry home & garden stuff around for a while.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 10:30 PM (XjTSo)

84

My idea of Heaven is getting a full set of 10 mm
socket
deep
open
box
box rachet
and
impact
Posted by: rhennigantx

Before he passed, i was visiting Dad aand stolee all of his 3/8" sockets and wrenches (he had a Harley). I replaced them with equivalent 10mm tools just to fuck with him.

The next time i visited, i put them all out at his work place when he went to the bathroom. He just glared at me. I reminded him of all the times he had me hold the sparkplug so he could check the spark on the mower. He grunted and called me a little shit.

Really miss him. Miss our annual motorcycle rides across the country. But it's the little things, like stealing his tools that make me smile.

BTW, he got me again with the sparkplug wires by turning over his Harley while I was hooking it back up after gapping it for him. He was 82 and I was old enough to know better.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 13, 2025 10:31 PM (QVmho)

85 Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:28 PM
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Rat! You bastard! ***SLAP***

(you promised to never tell!)

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:31 PM (rdVOm)

86 78 Why is there a TV set on top of the bigger TV set in that 1970s Christmas photo? Were they going to watch 2 of the 3 channels at the same time?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit
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DIY picture on picture. Probably a sports fanatic's house.

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:29 PM (rdVOm)

One TV with the VHF antenna, another with the UHF antenna?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:31 PM (ynpvh)

87 Congratulations, COMM. You are now the proud owner of a Kamala Harris bobblehead. It is a Major Award!

Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:31 PM (R256O)

88 32 Looking at that seventies photo I literally first thought I must have sent it in and forgot.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 13, 2025 10:17 PM (EXyHK)

Christmas photo is stereotypical 70's. Naugahyde recliner. Encyclopedias in the bookcase. Portable TV on top of console TV to pick up UHF stations. Huge rabbit ears for distant stations.

Posted by: Joemarine at December 13, 2025 10:31 PM (y171U)

89 A large animatronic TRex in a Christmas sweater?

one of the entrants in the ugly sweater contest at our office holiday all-hands yesterday was a "tree rex" sweater.

Posted by: anachronda at December 13, 2025 10:32 PM (edU/H)

90 Why not? You have three options: keep it and never use it and have the gifter ask where it is; throw it away unused, break it. Seems regifting is the superior option.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 10:08 PM (uQesX)

"I'm standing right here"
-Thrift store in the next town over

Posted by: sal at December 13, 2025 10:32 PM (f+FmA)

91 My favorite cookies in the world are snowball cookies. I might make some this year. Cutting out carbs but it will be my one treat. You can make "plain" which are great but also mint, or cocoa, or orange, they are like a cookie canvas to make almost anything.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 10:33 PM (3uBP9)

92 I had to send my iPad back to Apple. This is not great news. I will just sit at the bar and casually swing my legs until someone notices my shoes.
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:19 PM (ZdaMQ)

Gee! Nice shoes, Piper! I love the color-coordinated spikes.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 10:33 PM (npFr7)

93 Who gonna get that fantastic sweater?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:33 PM (ynpvh)

94 Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 13, 2025 10:25 PM (OGOaV)

Nicely done.

Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 10:34 PM (KC4YG)

95 Starting in the late 70s, my Dad would video tape each Christmas. He had these extremely bright light, and also had the camcorder hooked to the TV masquerading as furniture so we could see what was being recorded. It was kind of trippy to point the camera at the TV.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 13, 2025 10:34 PM (OGOaV)

96 Are you wearing those elf shoes with the curly toes? Unless they are saddle shoes or have curly toes, I probably won't even realize you have feet.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:27 PM (R256O)

Ummm no, https://tinyurl.com/yrdrd2yz - here they are. 😀

Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:35 PM (ZdaMQ)

97 People stopped asking me to Christmas parties because I always pocket the Beenie-Weenies.

Where are they?

Posted by: Hangry Hank at December 13, 2025 10:36 PM (oftw2)

98 Merry Christmas ... ho Ho HO.

four degrees out now ... I ventured out today when it was ten, and weather said my skin could freeze in a half hour. So I spent ten minutes wrapped up, clearing snow off 60% of my solar panels.

The Big Question is whether tomorrow's full sun at ten degrees max will be hot enough to melt off the rest of the snow. This is what I do for hermit excitement. Oh, and heating the house with my little woodstove is also an adventure. Makes me feel self reliant.

cheers

Posted by: illiniwek at December 13, 2025 10:36 PM (vbXSk)

99 Celebrating this virtual party with an eggnog. Not as good as Mom used to make, but tasty.

I don't have anything new to offer as a present to y'all, so I've re-wrapped this, from Christmas 2016 ICYMI:

Mindful Webworkshop Episode #16 (the last one) - Christmas
Politically Incorrect and Culturally Inappropriate pop song parodies and original tunes sure to put coal in my stocking.
🎅There are Santa Clauses
🎅Rudolfo
🎅The Terrible Christmas Song
🎅Christmas Wrap
🎅Nutcracker
🎅The All-Purpose Greeting Card Song

Eleven minutes, so you may want to just bookmark it for after the party slows down. Or just re-gift it and go on with your preferred hard metal rock.

Posted by: mindful webworker - in jaunty Santa hat at December 13, 2025 10:36 PM (lbDMw)

100 My favorite cookies in the world are snowball cookies.

Snowball cookies are amazing. I love them all but I found a recipe for macadamia nut ones in an old Hawaiian community cookbook a few years back that I love.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 13, 2025 10:36 PM (EXyHK)

101 95 Starting in the late 70s, my Dad would video tape each Christmas. He had these extremely bright light, and also had the camcorder hooked to the TV masquerading as furniture so we could see what was being recorded. It was kind of trippy to point the camera at the TV.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 13, 2025 10:34 PM (OGOaV)

Brother was converting 8mm into VHS for my Dad. All the movies were silent so he added a soundtrack...in one, my Dad was skiing in Lake of the Ozarks to the sound of "Final Countdown". Dad was not amused.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:36 PM (ynpvh)

102 99
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Posted by: mindful webworker - in jaunty Santa hat at December 13, 2025 10:36 PM (lbDMw)

Congrats on your new sweater. It's a beaut!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:37 PM (ynpvh)

103 Why is there a TV set on top of the bigger TV set in that 1970s Christmas photo? Were they going to watch 2 of the 3 channels at the same time?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 13, 2025 10:27 PM (Wj1DV)

I'm guessing the big TV croaked, and they brought in the portable as backup. We tend to forget those old tube-type TV sets often developed problems that called for repair services.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 10:37 PM (npFr7)

104 (you promised to never tell!)
Posted by: JQ

Sorry, but since it was in the newsletter I figured it was ok....sigh, places another $1.73 in tip jar.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:37 PM (TfUTr)

105 Excellent memory. Yes, 'tis me. Results will be published after the new year. There is yet more 2025 to run...
Posted by: TRex - kreskin dino at December 13, 2025 10:26 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Well, I'm long the market and it hasn't collapsed, so there's that.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:38 PM (OWovX)

106 re: dryer lint. mathematician friend of mine claimed that your dryer lint was the average color of your clothes.

Posted by: anachronda at December 13, 2025 10:38 PM (edU/H)

107 Piper, are your shoes Jimmy Choo, Louboutin, or Manahlo's?

I feel certain my invitation to Berserkers Christmas Metal Extravaganza must've been lost in the mail, so it's lovey to be able to join you all this evening!

I was feeling fancy, hence the pearls and Norwegian Silver Fox coat. The pearls were a wedding gift, the fur was inherited. It is entirely too hot on top of my black velvet minidress, and thigh high leather boots, but one does one's poor best to carry on.
The fishnet stockings would've been appropriate for Betserkers event, but, alas....

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 10:38 PM (Vvh2V)

108 A friend of mine probably did the most sinister, creative and time consuming prank Christmas gift I've been honored to witness. He got his wife one of those House and Garden pots that plugs in and melts scented wax squares as an air freshener.

The bastard then bought the wax squares, which come in a plastic rectangle with slots for each square. He promptly removed the squares and melted them all down and proceeded to melt down some unscented candles he bought. With the unscented wax he made batches adding the most unpleasant scents you can imagine (Vinegar, Liniment, rotten eggs, spoiled milk). He shaped them using a mold. THEN, took the original scented squares and coated the outside. So, if you smelled them before they melted, it would seem A-OK. Then, he placed them back in the original containers. Wrapped the whole deal and put it under the tree for his wife.

This is an ongoing thing with those two. She was impressed with the effort, as were we all.

Posted by: Orson at December 13, 2025 10:39 PM (dIske)

109 Glad to see all of you here at The Club Christmas Party!

Posted by: scampydog at December 13, 2025 10:39 PM (41CYW)

110 "I'm standing right here"
-Thrift store in the next town over
Posted by: sal at December 13, 2025 10:32 PM (f+FmA)

Too much work.

(tosses gift in garbage can)

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 10:39 PM (uQesX)

111 91 My favorite cookies in the world are snowball cookies. I might make some this year. Cutting out carbs but it will be my one treat. You can make "plain" which are great but also mint, or cocoa, or orange, they are like a cookie canvas to make almost anything.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 10:33 PM (3uBP9)

------------------------------

My favorites are Russian tea cakes, which as best I can tell are flatter versions of snowball cookies.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 13, 2025 10:39 PM (OGOaV)

112 96 Ummm no, https://tinyurl.com/yrdrd2yz - here they are. 😀
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:35 PM (ZdaMQ)

As far as I am concerned, you might as well not even have feet.

Quentin Tarintino or the Manolo might have a different opinion.

Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:39 PM (R256O)

113 The Big Question is whether tomorrow's full sun at ten degrees max will be hot enough to melt off the rest of the snow. This is what I do for hermit excitement. Oh, and heating the house with my little woodstove is also an adventure. Makes me feel self reliant.

cheers
Posted by: illiniwek at December

I hope you have cozy warm blankets!

Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:40 PM (ZdaMQ)

114 Excellent memory. Yes, 'tis me. Results will be published after the new year. There is yet more 2025 to run...
Posted by: TRex - kreskin dino at December 13, 2025 10:26 PM (IQ6Gq)

My list is still around here somewhere- looking forward to it.

And, DDD's? You have outdone yourselves.

Posted by: sal at December 13, 2025 10:40 PM (f+FmA)

115 As far as I am concerned, you might as well not even have feet.

Quentin Tarintino or the Manolo might have a different opinion.
Posted by: tankdemon at December

Well they are kind of small because I am height challenged.

Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:41 PM (ZdaMQ)

116 The old Zenith console TV my folks had in the 70s couldn't pick up any UHF channels.

I do remember the days when a TV repairman would work on that old thing.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 10:41 PM (6p0Jv)

117 106 re: dryer lint. mathematician friend of mine claimed that your dryer lint was the average color of your clothes.

Posted by: anachronda at December 13, 2025 10:38 PM (edU/H)

Nearly seems right...some clothing is fuzzier than others and contributes more lint...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:42 PM (ynpvh)

118 Merry Christmas Everyone!

Just dropping in for a few seconds tho I wouldn't say no to a cold beer....

Will return later to read through all the comments.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 13, 2025 10:42 PM (QGaXH)

119 Ummm no, https://tinyurl.com/yrdrd2yz - here they are. 😀
Posted by: Piper


1) Nice shoes!

B) A grand? Someone was on the "nice" list!

Posted by: mikeski at December 13, 2025 10:43 PM (nhCoE)

120 Well they are kind of small because I am height challenged.
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:41 PM (ZdaMQ)


$995 for shoes??!!?? You must get paid too much for your Sunday ONT work!

Posted by: Doof at December 13, 2025 10:43 PM (QMAsf)

121 115 As far as I am concerned, you might as well not even have feet.

Quentin Tarintino or the Manolo might have a different opinion.
Posted by: tankdemon at December

Well they are kind of small because I am height challenged.

Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:41 PM (ZdaMQ)

My wife was only 5'-0"...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:44 PM (ynpvh)

122 *slides a cold one down the bar for ARiK*

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:44 PM (rdVOm)

123 Why is there a TV set on top of the bigger TV set in that 1970s Christmas photo? Were they going to watch 2 of the 3 channels at the same time?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit


Tube works on the bottom one, sound works on the top one?

Posted by: mikeski at December 13, 2025 10:44 PM (nhCoE)

124 Gotta get off and be a productive member of society. Merry Christmas. Thanks to the 3D's for the swell party.

Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:44 PM (R256O)

125 And, DDD's? You have outdone yourselves.
Posted by: sal

Truely, "God Bless us, each and everyone!"


Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:44 PM (TfUTr)

126 116 The old Zenith console TV my folks had in the 70s couldn't pick up any UHF channels.

I do remember the days when a TV repairman would work on that old thing.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 10:41 PM (6p0Jv)

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Growing up, my Dad was an all-around handyman. We never had repair people in the house - no plumbers, no electricians - and never took our cars into the shop. I do remember him having a collection of tubes in the garage.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 13, 2025 10:45 PM (OGOaV)

127 I bought my niece a scoop shovel, she broke her plastic one shoveling bark dust. I bought myself a bottle corker, apparently made by Ferrari industries.
It doesn't go very fast, but on the other hand it doesn't leak oil so I figure I am winning.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 10:45 PM (rbvCR)

128 DOOF!!

I put a couple of strings of these up over the jukebox *just for you*

https://tinyurl.com/mr7p2xkp

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:47 PM (rdVOm)

129
120 Well they are kind of small because I am height challenged.
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:41 PM (ZdaMQ)

$995 for shoes??!!?? You must get paid too much for your Sunday ONT work!
Posted by: Doof at December 13, 2025

I just put them on your card. It’s fine.

Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:47 PM (ZdaMQ)

130 There used to be a little-known band of man-eating apes living in the Hollywood Hills. They found Californians especially to their liking, especially around the holidays.

Why? Everyone knows that Yule Gibbons ate fruits, nuts, and flakes.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 10:47 PM (IG3/x)

131 Totally OT from this festive gathering, there has been a shooting at Brown University this afternoon and I have stumbled upon the local news broadcast, which I gather has been going on for over five hours now.
In summary, the guy walked out, turned right, and has not been seen again. Nothing further at this point.
Five hours of clueless reporters, dumb ass politicians, cop officials desperate to be elsewhere, and constant unsupported about students delicate feelings, and a city changed forever.
Fascinating, hadn't watched local news in forever. It's changed, not for the better.
We at 56 yet?

Posted by: From about That Time at December 13, 2025 10:48 PM (sl73Y)

132 Ad agency I worked at gift wrapped hundreds of swag gifts, emergency flashlights with radio and a siren. We installed batteries, tuned radio to client's channel. In shipping all the siren switches clicked on. Hilarity ensued.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 10:48 PM (Kt19C)

133 Good Saturday evening, 'ettes and 'rons, and thanks for the triple-Ds for the ONT.

I remember the original intended disposition of that Kamala bobblehead from Corsicana ...

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at December 13, 2025 10:49 PM (v23vE)

134 Ha, Louboutin! Those are stunning, but my 120 days are well behind me. 85 is bad enough. And I'd ruin the velvet in half an hour.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 10:49 PM (Vvh2V)

135 I do love fruitcake, but haven't had any this year. I don't understand the hatred of it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:49 PM (ynpvh)

136 "I hope you have cozy warm blankets!" Posted by: Piper

ha, yes, I use an electric blanket for winter. And I still have the grid to depend on. But after my electric rates increased about 40% I started burning wood again. And I need the wood cutting exercise, so it's all good. Surprising that my little woodstove can heat the whole house, though back rooms stay around 60.

cheers to you Piper.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 13, 2025 10:50 PM (vbXSk)

137 I predict San Franpsycho will be the first to dance with a lampshade on his head tonight.

====

*takes swig of Kahlua from the bottle*

Well, here goes nothing!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:50 PM (OWovX)

138 I was also hoping for some figgy pudding.

I won't go until I get some.

Posted by: Hangry Hank. at December 13, 2025 10:50 PM (oftw2)

139 Why? Everyone knows that Yule Gibbons ate fruits, nuts, and flakes.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 10:47 PM (IG3/x)

Hah!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 10:51 PM (npFr7)

140 138 I was also hoping for some figgy pudding.

I won't go until I get some.

Posted by: Hangry Hank. at December 13, 2025 10:50 PM (oftw2)

Heh. We'll keep the figgy pudding, let the Brit's eat their spotted dick.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:51 PM (ynpvh)

141 THEN, took the original scented squares and coated the outside. So, if you smelled them before they melted, it would seem A-OK. Then, he placed them back in the original containers. Wrapped the whole deal and put it under the tree for his wife.
=================
This is why I love my dogs more than I'll ever love any person.

People are asshoe.

Sorry, honey.

Posted by: Cheerful Reprobate at December 13, 2025 10:51 PM (0yLoC)

142 $995 for shoes??!!?? You must get paid too much for your Sunday ONT work!
Posted by: Doof at December 13, 2025

I just put them on your card. It’s fine.
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:47 PM (ZdaMQ)


Haha! I better raise the price on those Club ONT coins.

Posted by: Doof at December 13, 2025 10:52 PM (QMAsf)

143 Ad agency I worked at gift wrapped hundreds of swag gifts, emergency flashlights with radio and a siren. We installed batteries, tuned radio to client's channel. In shipping all the siren switches clicked on. Hilarity ensued.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 10:48 PM (Kt19C)


One Christmas I worked as a casual for the local USPS sorting office, and a box came through making noises. They evacuated the building and brought in the bomb squad, it was a toy that was shipped with the batteries in.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 10:52 PM (rbvCR)

144 I do love fruitcake, but haven't had any this year. I don't understand the hatred of it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 10:49 PM (ynpvh)
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Those people must hate Christmas. And America.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:52 PM (OWovX)

145 Howdy morons!

*plops next to Rat, gives DDS and COMM smooches*

I’m pooped. Stayed up until after midnight yapping with an old college buddy who contacted me kind of out of the blue. Super fun.

My ugly Christmas sweatshirt won last year. It’s a kitty wearing a Santa hat riding a T. rex with tacos and pizza slices orbiting around.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 13, 2025 10:52 PM (mT+6a)

146 I’m reading George William Rutler’s The Stories of Hymns right now. At the end of his short summary of Edward Caswell’s “Hark! A Thrilling Voice is Sounding” he added:

Out of respect for the sensibilities of overreaching choristers, whose number is legion, Caswell’s opening verse was altered for its second printing in 1852 from the line first published three years before: “Hark, an awful voice is sounding …”

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 13, 2025 10:52 PM (EXyHK)

147 Sleighbells ring ... Are you raaaaacists listening?

Posted by: Adriane the Not Cynical Enough Critic . . . at December 13, 2025 10:52 PM (3ZUWJ)

148 Why is there a TV set on top of the bigger TV set in that 1970s Christmas photo? Were they going to watch 2 of the 3 channels at the same time?

I've seen that setup a few times. Most likely one TV had a working picture tube and the other one had a working audio circuit. Tune 'em both to the same channel and call it good.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 13, 2025 10:53 PM (lUFok)

149 34 Ha, Louboutin! Those are stunning, but my 120 days are well behind me. 85 is bad enough. And I'd ruin the velvet in half an hour.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 10:49 PM (Vvh2V)

My calfskin 100s still look new, I have to take a deep breath and pray there will be seating if I wear them. 😂 85s are still nothing to sneeze at, ma’am! However, my 70s need new heel tips again, they are classic and my go to, I can run in that height!

Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 10:53 PM (ZdaMQ)

150 59 Some Rat

What am I?! Chopped liver?!
Sheesh...all these years I generously shared my wobbly table...
Now I have to sit at the end of the bar on this wobbly bar stool, where it always smells like stale beer and cigs...

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 13, 2025 10:53 PM (5lbLe)

151 Glad to see all of you here at The Club Christmas Party!
Posted by: scampydog
********
And your tardy excuse is ?

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 10:53 PM (IQ6Gq)

152 I don't know if we're talking about greatest Christmas Presents ever received but for me it was a Garmin 760 car GPS from my Anonymous wife. Since I'm kind of a 'map' guy it was perfect!

As a bonus I got to hear such golden oldies as 'you don't need your stupid GPS to go to the grocery store' and 'are you going to go where I tell you or where your stupid GPS tells you?'

Good times....good times....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 13, 2025 10:53 PM (QGaXH)

153 The top one was color or had better reception for UHF stations.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 13, 2025 10:53 PM (R86kT)

154 DOOF!!

I put a couple of strings of these up over the jukebox *just for you*

https://tinyurl.com/mr7p2xkp
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:47 PM (rdVOm)


Thanks, JQ! You're awesome! Take a nice long break and go mingle.

Posted by: Doof at December 13, 2025 10:54 PM (QMAsf)

155 I'm beginning to think that we can fund Club ONT for a long time by selling the contents of Piper's shoe closet.

Posted by: TRex - fund raising dino at December 13, 2025 10:54 PM (IQ6Gq)

156 someone got a little TV for his own room! What a Christmas.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 10:54 PM (rbvCR)

157 Posted by: From about That Time at December 13, 2025 10:48 PM (sl73Y)
====

That first news conference a few hours ago was very contentless. They won't say much until they catch the guy.

My guess is frustrated Chinese engineering student.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:55 PM (OWovX)

158 Piper, those shoes look fabulous! And they cost only $5.00 short of a grand! But can you actually stand and walk about for any appreciable length of time in them? Just curious…

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 13, 2025 10:55 PM (075ei)

159 And your tardy excuse is ?
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba
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Was measuring a certain cobs yard for a certain gift mentioned in the cintent.

Posted by: scampydog at December 13, 2025 10:55 PM (41CYW)

160 OK, and where is this Hobo Santa? Must have heard he was going to be seated outside and thought twice about that...

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 10:57 PM (IQ6Gq)

161 As a bonus I got to hear such golden oldies as 'you don't need your stupid GPS to go to the grocery store' …

I just used GPS to go to the grocery store yesterday. Didn’t need it, but sometimes I do. It knows the current traffic.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 13, 2025 10:57 PM (EXyHK)

162 Content. Damned phone

Posted by: scampydog at December 13, 2025 10:57 PM (41CYW)

163 I remember the original intended disposition of that Kamala bobblehead from Corsicana ...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at December 13, 2025 10:49 PM (v23vE)


There may or may not still be plans like that for said bobblehead that may or may not be in my range bag in my basement.

Posted by: Doof at December 13, 2025 10:57 PM (QMAsf)

164 What am I?! Chopped liver?!
Sheesh...all these years I generously shared my wobbly table...
Now I have to sit at the end of the bar on this wobbly bar stool, where it always smells like stale beer and cigs...
Posted by: COMountainMarie

Sweetie! See #70!
Sheesh. Nurse, DDS, go fetch Marie.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:57 PM (TfUTr)

165 Merry Christmas everyone!

Thanks to everyone who put this party together!

We put up colored and white icicle lights on the porch this evening. We had quite a bit of snow but it has melted away. But still, it's beginning to look a lot like Christmas.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 13, 2025 10:58 PM (f7Gew)

166 And your tardy excuse is ?
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba
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Was measuring a certain cobs yard for a certain gift mentioned in the cintent.
Posted by: scampydog
*********
Like the dogs wouldn't notice you in the yard....remember, be nice - less than 2 weeks til the big day and the Big Guy is still keeping his Nice/Naughty list, and checking it twice!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 10:58 PM (IQ6Gq)

167 Woo! Break time...

Thanks, Doof!

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 10:59 PM (rdVOm)

168 Dear Santa,

Please bring Doggo a new phone for Christmas. His current one has an awful keyboard.

Thank you,
TRex

Posted by: TRex - gift advocate dino at December 13, 2025 10:59 PM (IQ6Gq)

169 I think my Pigalles are 100s. Strictly for the bedroom at this point.

Gianvito Rossi is my go to for pumps now, or LK Bennet. Such is life at 62! 😁

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 10:59 PM (Vvh2V)

170
10 Does anybody else think that the only proper pose for a Kamala Harris bobblehead is in her knees?
Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:07 PM

-------

She has to walk to the toilet to spit.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 13, 2025 11:00 PM (L78T1)

171 Take a nice long break and go mingle.
Posted by: Doof


Freaking out the introverts, for $300.

Posted by: mikeski at December 13, 2025 11:00 PM (nhCoE)

172 Colored lights are for Christmas that is festive and psychedelic. White lights are for Christmas that is magical and psychedelic.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 11:01 PM (OWovX)

173 All y'all who think a thousand is a lot for shoes had best not ask about handbags! 😂😂😂

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:01 PM (Vvh2V)

174 170
10 Does anybody else think that the only proper pose for a Kamala Harris bobblehead is in her knees?
Posted by: tankdemon at December 13, 2025 10:07 PM

-------

She has to walk to the toilet to spit.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 13, 2025 11:00 PM (L78T1)

So the saying "Mean people suck; nice people swallow" is true?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 11:02 PM (ynpvh)

175 AmericanKestral!

Hello! So good to see you!

*skooches over*
Have a seat!

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 13, 2025 11:03 PM (mT+6a)

176 Madame Kestrel, how lovely to see you, and looking so fetching!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:03 PM (Vvh2V)

177 168 Dear Santa,

Please bring Doggo a new phone for Christmas. His current one has an awful keyboard.

Thank you,
TRex
Posted by: TRex - gift advocate dino
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Thank you!

Posted by: scampydog at December 13, 2025 11:04 PM (41CYW)

178 173 All y'all who think a thousand is a lot for shoes had best not ask about handbags! 😂😂😂

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:01 PM (Vvh2V)

How many times will you use it? When my wife wanted to make a significant purchase, that was always my question.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 11:05 PM (ynpvh)

179 54 By popular demand (mostly Ben Had demand), we're doing the same theme next week! The Hobby Thread email box is open for submissions...
Posted by: TRex - ornamental dino at December 13, 2025 10:24 PM (IQ6Gq)

Great! I had two more I couldn't find in time for today as we're just getting the tree decorated (drinkerated) today.

On a related note - Svengoolie is just coming on in my time zone. Dennis Hopper in 'Duel'. Apparently not a Christmas movie.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 13, 2025 11:07 PM (QGaXH)

180 Well, I'm about done. Tomorrow I prep for surgery on Monday. Night all.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 11:07 PM (ynpvh)

181 Whoa! I made Top 10ish Comments for the first time!

Musical interlude:

https://youtu.be/7YvAYIJSSZY

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 13, 2025 11:08 PM (GvwDZ)

182 I'll regift if it's something someone asked for specifically.

I will pass it along unwrapped with it's Origin Story in addition to my original gift if I think it's something they would enjoy.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:08 PM (Vvh2V)

183 How many times will you use it? When my wife wanted to make a significant purchase, that was always my question.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Sorta like us buying a transmission jack.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 11:08 PM (TfUTr)

184 >>>@91 My favorite cookies in the world are snowball cookies. I might make some this year. Cutting out carbs but it will be my one treat. You can make "plain" which are great but also mint, or cocoa, or orange, they are like a cookie canvas to make almost anything. Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 10:33 PM (3uBP9)
================
Greetings, banana dream ... I just finished making 9 dozen of these to take to a cookie swap tomorrow ... Because of the many steps involved -- make dough, chill dough, portion dough, roll portions into ball shapes, bake cookies, coat baked cookies with 10X sugar while warm and, finally, recoat cookies with 10X sugar once they're completely cooled -- I usually perform the tasks over two days instead of one to ensure I can carefully monitor the cookies baking and now send some freshly-baked samples through the USB port for you to enjoy tonight!

Posted by: Kathy at December 13, 2025 11:09 PM (zuKcR)

185 Well, I'm about done. Tomorrow I prep for surgery on Monday. Night all.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 11:07 PM (ynpvh)

Night, Jim. May the surgery be uneventful, and successful.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 11:09 PM (npFr7)

186 jim (in Kalifornia)

We're gonna split up your stuff you know.

(I keed, keed)
Good luck.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 11:09 PM (Kt19C)

187
42 To kick off the White Elephant gift game, whoever has comment number 56, please collect the first gift (pictured below) - your very own Kamala Harris bobblehead

What number gets the joey biden windup toy that just wanders around the tree?
Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 10:20 PM (TfUTr)

----

I remember there was a model train sold in the 60s where you could put a pellet down the locomotive smokestack to make real smoke. Maybe a Biden model where you slip a pellet inside the back of its pants?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 13, 2025 11:10 PM (L78T1)

188 So, I understand I won a Kumala bobblehead.
I'm soooo excited!
Dino has my address, so I expect this ASAP!
It's everything I wanted and hoped for😛!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 13, 2025 11:10 PM (5lbLe)

189 169 I think my Pigalles are 100s. Strictly for the bedroom at this point.

Gianvito Rossi is my go to for pumps now, or LK Bennet. Such is life at 62! 😁
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor

Dress shoes for me are patent leather Birkenstocks.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 13, 2025 11:11 PM (mT+6a)

190 jim (in Kalifornia)

We're gonna split up your stuff you know.

(I keed, keed)
Good luck.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats

Dibs on the transmission jack.

Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 11:11 PM (TfUTr)

191 Content. Damned phone

Posted by: scampydog at December 13, 2025 10:57 PM (41CYW)
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It is a good trait to be content with one's damned phone. Good for you!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 13, 2025 11:12 PM (GvwDZ)

192 169 I think my Pigalles are 100s. Strictly for the bedroom at this point.

Gianvito Rossi is my go to for pumps now, or LK Bennet. Such is life at 62! 😁
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor



since your soles are unscuffed you could return them to the store

Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:14 PM (4hlpI)

193 158 Piper, those shoes look fabulous! And they cost only $5.00 short of a grand! But can you actually stand and walk about for any appreciable length of time in them? Just curious…
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 13, 2025 10:55 PM (075ei)

I could only manage a 120 if they are a platform toe. 100 is my limit in a normal pump and even those I have to remind myself of the Louboutin quote- they are made to make your foot look good, not feel good!

Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 11:15 PM (ZdaMQ)

194 go to for pumps now

"Come fuck me" pumps?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 11:15 PM (Kt19C)

195 Dibs on the transmission jack.
Posted by: Some Rat at December 13, 2025 11:11 PM (TfUTr)


You can't have the transmission. And don't call him Jack.

Posted by: Doof at December 13, 2025 11:15 PM (QMAsf)

196 So the saying "Mean people suck; nice people swallow" is true?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 11:02 PM (ynpvh)


You shouldn't swallow mouth wash

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 11:16 PM (rbvCR)

197
"Come fuck me" pumps?



it is just "fuck me pumps"

Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:16 PM (4hlpI)

198 Nurse! Tammy! It's good to see you! Thanks for the seat. I intend to observe all the shenanigans and expect it will be quite entertaining.

I did bring some chex party mix, extra Worcestershire sauce and butter. Enjoy!

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 13, 2025 11:16 PM (f7Gew)

199 Merry Christmas, Hoard!

Spent a couple hours with Little to see if we could view some of the Geminid meteor shower. He saw three before the clouds rolled in..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 11:16 PM (nbLIj)

200 at this age most women are buying sump pumps

Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:16 PM (4hlpI)

201 "In related news, plays on the jukebox are free tonight."
Sneaks up to jukebox.
Plays "Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer."
Plays it again.
Then again.
Repeat 15 times.
Plays Lindsey Sterling's "Carol of the Bells"
Plays "Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer" five more times.
Posted by: tankdemon


Whew. After that, we can get away with anything, right? I didn't think the jukebox would even have my kind of Christmas music, but.....

https://youtu.be/emQR5uPavic

Posted by: mikeski at December 13, 2025 11:17 PM (nhCoE)

202 The Christmas morning photo with the red wagon...why is there a little tv on top of the big tv?

Not a huge fan of punch, altho I own two punch bowls & ladles that I never use. Because you never know when you might need these things.

Once, on a college camping trip at the end of spring semester, SOMEONE (not me) must have put Everclear in the punch. Granted, I was there for whatever in the way of drinking (or smoking), but not much of a punch drinker, either, except at weddings where they were often non-alcoholic.

I prided myself in keeping it together drinking at parties. I was the last one standing & still cracking jokes. Not that night in the wilderness, bro. I suddenly felt harfy (which is rare), stood up,& l and almost face planted into the camp fire. Which would have been bad in any circumstance to land in a fire on your face, much less hours from a trauma center or hospital.

I lurched over a friend's truck, & for reasons unknown, went under his truck to puke.

Another friend found me there, as I guess he cared enough to look for me. I remember his face asking me why I was under the truck and I told him I had no idea.Eventually I got out from under the truck.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 11:19 PM (WONhk)

203 Where can I find once ubiquitous fruitcake?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 11:19 PM (Kt19C)

204 Rhode Island will have broadsides of the Brown U. shooting suspect up at all the inns and taverns by noon tomorrow. All carriages coming out of the city of Providence will be subject to search by duly authorized peace officers until further notice. Residents of Providence and surrounding farms are advised to keep loaded muskets at hand. Further updates will be provided in the monthly Gazette.

Posted by: Wm. Peabody at December 13, 2025 11:20 PM (qUkBO)

205 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 11:05 PM (ynpvh)

That is exactly how I justify it. Some of the older bags from luxury houses were of such quality that they will likely be passed down to granddaughters. Cost per wear atvthat point will be pennies!

I'm glad I bought my bags when they quality was still there. Luxury is no longer worth the cost. Hermes is still very good quality, but I dont care for too many of their bags. I have a Kelly and a Picotin. Don't care for Birkins. I have heard very horrifying stories about how the obtain the skins for their bags, and had I heard them prior to buying mine, I would have researched more and definitely not bought them, if the rumors were true.

Not long before Covid, I was looking for another Chanel Boy bag, and could not believe the decline in quality. Strings hanging off, crooked stitching.... for the amount they charge ( more now!) that bag needs to be pristine!





Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:20 PM (Vvh2V)

206 169 I think my Pigalles are 100s. Strictly for the bedroom at this point.

Wait wut?

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 13, 2025 11:21 PM (RoO7G)

207 Gianvito Rossi is my go to for pumps now, or LK Bennet. Such is life at 62! 😁
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor

I have 1 pair of Gianvito Rossi pumps, but they are red so I don’t wear them often. I don’t wear any of them often anymore since I live in leggings and socks now. 😢

Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 11:21 PM (ZdaMQ)

208 Oh my gosh, it is so nice to see so many people, Grateful, I am glad that you liked the meatballs, I so enjoyed meeting you and TRex at the MoMe.

JQ, you have outdone yourself, the Santa suit was hung on a hook in the foyer to the restroom (so tastefully decorated), I notice that is missing, we need Santa to make an appearance soon.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 13, 2025 11:21 PM (0nHVk)

209 If my time in AK taught me anything it is that xtratuf boots go with any attire. 😁

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 13, 2025 11:22 PM (f7Gew)

210 Where can I find once ubiquitous fruitcake?

Next year in Corsicana!

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 13, 2025 11:22 PM (EXyHK)

211 Tapping the egg nog reserve has been approved. Repeat - more egg nog has been authorized.

Club ONT Management

Posted by: Whelmed by bountiful egg nog at December 13, 2025 11:23 PM (IQ6Gq)

212 Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 11:19 PM (WONhk)
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Can we take a selfie?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 11:23 PM (OWovX)

213 Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:14 PM (4hlpI)

They are not unscuffed, Sir! I am not one to lie back and think of England. 😉😉😉

How have you been?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:23 PM (Vvh2V)

214 Can we take a selfie?
Posted by: San


is that possible even?

Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:24 PM (4hlpI)

215 They are not unscuffed, Sir! I am not one to lie back and think of England. 😉😉😉

How have you been?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor


MissTammy! We are good, how are you and Thor?

Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:25 PM (4hlpI)

216 How many times will you use it? When my wife wanted to make a significant purchase, that was always my question.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)


IKR? I mean, she drives a car, she uses tires all the time.

That should make a good gift, I'm thinking.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 13, 2025 11:25 PM (RoO7G)

217 It was an expression of my esteem at her exploits.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 11:26 PM (OWovX)

218 Good evening, miscreants. I had a mostly domestic day, though I did go out for breakfast and went to REI to get some of those traction chains for my insulated hunting boots. We haven't had snow yet, but we did get a couple of big storms last year and I like to keep warm clothes in the car in case I need to walk home.

The hell-hound is staring at me like "get off the damned iPad and take me for a walk!"

Posted by: PabloD at December 13, 2025 11:26 PM (Epuwl)

219 I had a mostly domestic day,
Posted by: Pab



So fucking the maid?

Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:27 PM (4hlpI)

220 179 On a related note - Svengoolie is just coming on in my time zone. Dennis Hopper in 'Duel'. Apparently not a Christmas movie.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 13, 2025 11:07 PM (QGaXH)

Correction - Dennis Weaver not Dennis Hopper.

I don't know what I was thinking.

Apologies for any inconvenience caused.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 13, 2025 11:28 PM (QGaXH)

221 211 Tapping the egg nog reserve has been approved. Repeat - more egg nog has been authorized.

Club ONT Management
Posted by: Whelmed by bountiful egg nog at December 13, 2025 11:23 PM (IQ6Gq)


Aye aye, cap'n!

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 13, 2025 11:28 PM (RoO7G)

222 I didn't see this mentioned yet. News the Horde will appreciate:

National Guard member Andrew Wolfe, who was shot near the White House in Washington, D.C. in late November, has been released from the hospital, NewsNation reported.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 13, 2025 11:28 PM (GvwDZ)

223
That should make a good gift, I'm thinking.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 13, 2025 11:25 PM (RoO7G)

Do not do this!

Your friend,

Piper

Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 11:28 PM (ZdaMQ)

224 It was an expression of my esteem at her exploits.
Posted by: San


I mean physically , how does "we" do "self"

Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:28 PM (4hlpI)

225 Ho, Ho, Ho, Merry Christmas Hodelings! Please keep the reindeer away from the moose out front - I think they were planning some type of rodeo. Let's see what we have for all the good people, and yes.. even that Disco character.

Posted by: Santa at December 13, 2025 11:28 PM (41CYW)

226 Did anyone get the Hunter Biden painting in the White Elephant yet?

Posted by: TRex - art critic dino at December 13, 2025 11:29 PM (IQ6Gq)

227 I have a few pairs in suede, Pecan is a good neutral!

But I don't wear them in the sticks. I ought to pass them on to someone who would get more use put of them, but it's kind of gross offering used shoes, even to family! 😂 And I swear, no one dresses much for work anymore. Unless you're in finance or law, I just don't see anyone dressing up.

Even at Boeing, when I worked at corporate level, unless you were VP or above, it was Business Casual.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:30 PM (Vvh2V)

228 Do not do this!

Your friend,

Piper
Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 11:28 PM (ZdaMQ)


So where were you for her last birthday?

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 13, 2025 11:30 PM (RoO7G)

229 I mean physically , how does "we" do "self"
Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:28 PM (4hlpI

You are about to get coal, mister. 😂

Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 11:31 PM (ZdaMQ)

230 ❣❣❣{{{Rat}}}❣❣❣

Hiya Nurse R! Hiya DDS!
In fact, hiya all youz Morons! Great party! Thanks you crazy Ds!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 13, 2025 11:33 PM (5lbLe)

231 Kestrel, chex mix sounds divine, especially with the extra good stuff! Everyone nowadays seems to add sweet things, and I don't care for it.

Mine is spicy. Not overly hot, just lots of good spices and I double those ( double the butter and Worcestershire, too!) and the nuts!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:34 PM (Vvh2V)

232 Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 13, 2025 11:28 PM (GvwDZ)

Thank you for sharing that, wonderful news, indeed!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:35 PM (Vvh2V)

233 Were we supposed to dress for this party? I am in my nightgown. I do have a Christmas nightgown but I am not wearing it tonight.Will get my tiara.

The only Christmas party where things did go wonky was an ED party. The group of docs (about 10 of them) were known to throw these and be asked by the hotels on the beach not to return. Many had rooms there (with spouses or girlfriends). We lived on the island about 5min from this hotel. There was a DJ and dancing.

One doc was daring another doc to shots of peppermint schnapps. My husband observed me deciding to use my booze tickets (until then, champagne) to compete with my ED doc buddies. It was a sneaky deal on my system, and my husband said at one point I was dancing alone.

We decided to leave & I was feeling a bit off balance but fine. I WAS FINE I told people leaving as well. At home I collapsed into bed and he knew then I was pretty bombed. Got my make up off ( never sleep with it on as a supermodel), & changed. Asked him for a glass of milk as I was going to read for awhile.He slept in another room

Woke the next day with the lamp still on and the milk still there. With a massive headache. The last time I had a hangover.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 11:36 PM (WONhk)

234 198 I did bring some chex party mix,

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 13, 2025 11:16 PM
***
Thank you! Somehow that eluded our party planning list. Wouldn't be a proper Christmas party without it!

Posted by: TRex - breakfast cereal dino at December 13, 2025 11:36 PM (IQ6Gq)

235 Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:25 PM (4hlpI)

Getting old. It's been a rough year. How are you and yours? Have you taken her back to Gotham yet?

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:37 PM (Vvh2V)

236 Hiya Nurse R! Hiya DDS!
In fact, hiya all youz Morons! Great party! Thanks you crazy Ds!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 13, 2025 11:33 PM (5lbLe)


Hey there, ladies!
*removes flask from ugly sweater pouch*

Who wants a swig?

Posted by: Doof at December 13, 2025 11:38 PM (QMAsf)

237 Barkeep, I was just thinking of a flaming rum punch. Off with you know and be lively.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 13, 2025 11:38 PM (R86kT)

238
Getting old. It's been a rough year. How are you and yours? Have you taken her back to Gotham yet?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor


We are there frequently, but not enough to get dinged for taxes. Mostly, we are in Houston now. Everything is good with us.

Not sure we are staying in Houston, it is nice but everything is too far from whereever you are

Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:40 PM (4hlpI)

239 Hi, Debby! Glad you like the decorations!

Was outside giving water, carrots & oats to the reindeer (and making sure they stayed away from our moose, LOL)

Hang on, got a tray of jalapeno poppers to bring out...

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 11:41 PM (rdVOm)

240 * continues leaning on the jukebox *

https://youtu.be/FvaL7M2JE4Y

This thing really does have all the Christmas songs.

Posted by: mikeski at December 13, 2025 11:42 PM (nhCoE)

241 Barkeep, I was just thinking of a flaming rum punch. Off with you know and be lively.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson
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You know, I was just chatting with a friend this afternoon about 151 proof rum-- tastes too strong, the only thing it's really good for is floating on top of drinks and *lighting*

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 11:43 PM (rdVOm)

242 You know, I was just chatting with a friend this afternoon about 151 proof rum-- tastes too strong, the only thing it's really good for is floating on top of drinks and *lighting*
Posted by: JQ


75% alcohol? It probably has uses in first aid, or as fuel.....

Posted by: mikeski at December 13, 2025 11:46 PM (nhCoE)

243 Some good news from D.C.

President Trump signed an executive order, and this is verbatim, called the "Assuring the Security of the State of Qatar." Quote: "Over the years, the United States and the State of Qatar have been bound together by close cooperation, shared interests, and the close relationship between our armed forces. The state of Qatar has hosted United States forces, enabled critical security operations, and stood as a steadfast ally in pursuit of peace, stability, and prosperity both in the Middle East and abroad, including as a mediator that has assisted the United States' attempts to resolve significant regional and global conflicts."

Listen to this: "In recognition of this history and in light of the continuing threats to the state of Qatar posed by foreign aggression, it is the policy of the U.S. to guarantee the security and territorial integrity of the State of Qatar against external attack. The United States shall regard any armed attack on the territory sovereignty or critical infrastructure of the State of Qatar as a threat to the peace and security of the United States."

It's great have another close ally in the Middle East!

Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 11:47 PM (2NGiN)

244 Mikeski-- well of course first aid and fuel, but as far as beverages... yeah... light it, burn it off. Heh.

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 11:48 PM (rdVOm)

245 I did not bring food, but I did bring Scotch. Dalwhinnie, and I've been there on our son's tour of the Highland distilleries. I don't remember a whole lot but it was pretty and I had fun.

Does this count?

Baby,it's cold outside. But no snow to speak of...oh, sure, up in the mountains. But I need it in my yard, stat!

I am trying to make the best of it but I am super mad that states like Indiana have snow and we don't here in ski country. We need it for water next summer, so it is not simply because I am having a tantrum for a white Christmas.

My husband tells me that there's a chance. I think he's only saying this to keep me from flipping out.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 11:48 PM (WONhk)

246
It's great have another close ally in the Middle East!
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 11:47 PM (2NGiN)

First up for karaoke! ☝️

Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 11:48 PM (ZdaMQ)

247 The United States shall regard any armed attack on the territory sovereignty or critical infrastructure of the State of Qatar as a threat to the peace and security of the United States."

It's great have another close ally in the Middle East!



in other words he had to have an executive order to warn Israel off bombing them again.

Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:49 PM (4hlpI)

248 https://youtu.be/FvaL7M2JE4Y

This thing really does have all the Christmas songs.
---
Pretty melody.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 13, 2025 11:50 PM (f7Gew)

249 Jukebox is set for "free plays" for the next hour!

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 11:51 PM (rdVOm)

250 Good night everyone! It was lovely to see you! Be kind to JQ and for goodness sake, don’t use the tinsel as garnish!

Posted by: Piper at December 13, 2025 11:52 PM (ZdaMQ)

251 Spicy Chex mix sounds good. I'll add Trinidad pepper sauce to my next batch.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 13, 2025 11:52 PM (f7Gew)

252 This thing really does have all the Christmas songs.
Posted by: mikeski at December 13, 2025 11:42 PM (nhCoE)

I'll just slip this into the carousel....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARX463itqf4

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 11:52 PM (nbLIj)

253 Sorry I'm late. Had to watch the last night of the National Finals Rodeo. Unlike tankdemon's stuff, mine is true.


Nice party!

Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at December 13, 2025 11:52 PM (47diA)

254 Good night Piper

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 13, 2025 11:53 PM (f7Gew)

255 'Night, Piper! Thanks for joining us!

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 11:53 PM (rdVOm)

256 253
Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at December 13, 2025 11:52 PM
***
Does the red truck ever double as Santa's sleigh?

Posted by: TRex - curious dino at December 13, 2025 11:54 PM (IQ6Gq)

257 I'm headed out to the firepit for a smoke, I'll see if Doof is still passing that flask around. Whoever made the cheese ball, it is delicious and addictive. Thank you.

{{{COMM}}} Merry Christmas friend.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 13, 2025 11:55 PM (0nHVk)

258 JQ, I will have a glass of the Jingle Juice. Or is it self serve? It sounds delicious!

Anyone want to sing "We three kings" with me?...after a few more drinks...

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 13, 2025 11:56 PM (f7Gew)

259 Does the red truck ever double as Santa's sleigh?

Let me think about that . . . . . . nope! It could, if any of my grandkids would come around here for Christmas!

Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at December 13, 2025 11:56 PM (47diA)

260 Hang on, got a tray of jalapeno poppers to bring out...

Oh! Yum...I was hoping someone remembered those!
I love the chex mix, but I'm getting the side eye from folks because I've been stuffing my pie hole...

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 13, 2025 11:57 PM (5lbLe)

261 I hate pergolas maybe more than any other structure, why even bother

Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:58 PM (4hlpI)

262 Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:40 PM (4hlpI)

I think what you mean is, it's nice, but it's too fucking hot and humid! 😂😂😂

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 11:59 PM (Vvh2V)

263 ***Question for those what make Chex Mix at home***

Must one use actual Chex brand cereal? Or can one get away with store-brand imitation chex?

And, do you care to share a recipe? Mom used to make a mix she called "Nuts n Bolts" that had a several types of chex, pretzel sticks, spanish peanuts and cheerios... the recipe is gone, but I'm sure the seasonings included Worcestershire sauce & garlic powder + I don't know what else. It was great!

Thanks in advance!

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:00 AM (rdVOm)

264 I want to hear Patty Smith's We Three Kings, and Robert Earle Keene's Merry Christmas From the Family!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 14, 2025 12:01 AM (Vvh2V)

265 I think what you mean is, it's nice, but it's too fucking hot and humid! 😂😂😂
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor


I am good with that, I am a bit disappointed in what a bunch of wuses Houstonians are. When its 105 and humid I am driving around with my windows down, air off , but the Houstonians have air on , windows up. wth

Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:01 AM (4hlpI)

266 *a cup of Jingle Juice for Debby*

Yeah, this stuff is delicious! (hic!)

Uh-oh....

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:02 AM (rdVOm)

267 Sweet dreams Piper!

"Sending you virtual pajamas and imaginary hot cocoa.”

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 14, 2025 12:02 AM (5lbLe)

268 in other words he had to have an executive order to warn Israel off bombing them again.
Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:49 PM (4hlpI)


Or maybe . . . Just maybe, mind you . . . Trump is as antisemitic as I've been told Tucker Carlson is. [Taps chin, thoughtfully]

Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 12:02 AM (rbvCR)

269 Thanks in advance!
Posted by: JQ at


buy a box, follow the directions.

Same as with chocolate chip cookies; buy a bag, follow directions.

Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:03 AM (4hlpI)

270 Sorry I can't make it to the party. I'm at work. I am watching, thanks to our friends at the NSA (thanks, Bob)! Put those two sad downers at the end of the bar and give them shots of everclear. They'll quiet down soon enough. Or get arrested.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 14, 2025 12:03 AM (rii+a)

271 I hate pergolas maybe more than any other structure, why even bother
Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:58 PM (4hlpI)


He was my favorite character in LOTR

Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 12:03 AM (rbvCR)

272 https://youtu.be/P37xPiRz1sg?si=WBBrOxHHF0Fs4jVE

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 14, 2025 12:03 AM (Vvh2V)

273 > , but I'm sure the seasonings included Worcestershire sauce & garlic powder + I don't know what else. It was great!

Thanks in advance!
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:00 AM (rdVOm)

In my family, normal Chex mix included wash-your-sister-sauce (as we called it).

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 14, 2025 12:04 AM (IG3/x)

274 Or maybe . . . Just maybe, mind you . . . Trump is as antisemitic


he's a nazi , definitely

Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:04 AM (4hlpI)

275 He was my favorite character in LOTR
Posted by: Kin



sigh

Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:04 AM (4hlpI)

276 This is my personal favorite version of We Three Kings...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrn78V0AzEY

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 14, 2025 12:05 AM (nbLIj)

277 *peeks in*
Dang. Late again. Any eggnog left?

Posted by: Diogenes at December 14, 2025 12:05 AM (2WIwB)

278 Chex Mix: generic "Chex" cereal is fine. Corn Chex, rice Chex, pretzels, peanuts. Sauce is melted butter, Worcestershire sauce, and seasonings. The recipe used to be on the back of the box of cereal.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 14, 2025 12:05 AM (f7Gew)

279 he's a nazi , definitely
Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:04 AM (4hlpI)


Well, sure. Anyone who doesn't kick Nick Fuentes in the balls after inviting him to travel cross country to his house to talk is clearly a Natzi.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 12:06 AM (rbvCR)

280 Well, sure. Anyone who doesn't kick Nick Fuentes in the balls after inviting him to travel cross country to his house to talk is clearly a Natzi.
Posted by: Kin



it is not even worth discussing , if youre not openly a nazi, youre a secret nazi

Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:07 AM (4hlpI)

281 Made a loaf of banana bread tonight to use up the last couple of bananas from a bunch.

The house smells great, if not particularly Christmasy. I'll take half of it to a neighbor tomorrow so my diabetic ass isn't tempted to eat it all.

Has anyone ever tried soaking banana bread in rum? Something akin to a fruitcake?

I'll bet it would be good.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 14, 2025 12:07 AM (IG3/x)

282 We need some muscle over here! Somebody please get the bouncer's attention...

(n0luA)

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:07 AM (rdVOm)

283 Moose out front shoulda told you Morons there's no such thing as a Wafffle House.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 14, 2025 12:08 AM (ULPxl)

284 Any eggnog left?
Posted by: Diogenes


youre gonna have to lick it off the strippers

Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:09 AM (4hlpI)

285 Ever notice that any fucking retard who starts jabbering about the "NRA", or "Fox News" is...a fucking retard?

I don't like the NRA, sport. You know why? Because they're far too conciliatory.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 14, 2025 12:09 AM (IG3/x)

286 Did anyone get a 'bingo" yet?

Posted by: TRex - bingo was his name-oh at December 14, 2025 12:09 AM (IQ6Gq)

287 This is my personal favorite version of We Three Kings...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrn78V0AzEY
Posted by: Joe Kidd


Uhgg.

Posted by: weft cut loop at December 14, 2025 12:10 AM (mlg/3)

288 In an odd twist, the mercedes dealership in our nabe sits behind a waffle house, or vice versa

Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:10 AM (4hlpI)

289 Happy Christmas Party, jolly onters!
At our work holiday dinner I indulged in irish coffee with whipped cream
Baileycious!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 14, 2025 12:10 AM (dE3DB)

290 Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 14, 2025 12:05 AM
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Thanks. I can find plenty of recipes online and can experiment. Was just wondering if anyone had a favorite variation of the original.

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:11 AM (rdVOm)

291
Thanks. I can find plenty of recipes online and can experiment. Was just wondering if anyone had a favorite variation of the original.
Posted by: JQ


go with the box, it is the smart thing.

Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:12 AM (4hlpI)

292 277 This is my personal favorite version of We Three Kings...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrn78V0AzEY
Posted by: Joe Kidd

Let's sing!

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 14, 2025 12:12 AM (f7Gew)

293 Everyone will be a nazi for 15 min.

Posted by: zombie Andy Warhol is a nazi at December 14, 2025 12:12 AM (rii+a)

294 *buys drink for our handsome bouncer*

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:13 AM (rdVOm)

295 Welcome, vmom!

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:14 AM (rdVOm)

296 I haven’t tried it yet but there is a Chex mix in The Deplorable Gourmet.

Country Boy’s Mom’s Homemade Chex Mix, page 158.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 14, 2025 12:15 AM (EXyHK)

297 Any eggnog left?
Posted by: Diogenes


youre gonna have to lick it off the strippers
Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:09 AM (4hlpI)

***

Huh?
Is that like pin the tail on the donkey?

Posted by: Diogenes at December 14, 2025 12:15 AM (2WIwB)

298 Diogenes, welcome to the Club ONT Christmas Party. You called it, Wazzu going to a bowl game. Lost their coach, but going to a bowl.

Posted by: scampydog at December 14, 2025 12:16 AM (41CYW)

299 Was just wondering if anyone had a favorite variation of the original.
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:11 AM (rdVOm)

Soak the whole thing in rum. Strain off the rum and reserve. Drink the rum. You no longer care what the chex mix tastes like.

Posted by: GWB at December 14, 2025 12:16 AM (KC4YG)

300 Country Boy’s Mom’s Homemade Chex Mix, page 158.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair
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Thank you! I will look it up. Why didn't I consult the DG? *shrugs*

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:16 AM (rdVOm)

301 Thanks in advance!

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:00 AM (rdVOm)

This is the recipe I use. I add more Worcestershire because I like to.

https://tinyurl.com/4vw2rmfp

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 14, 2025 12:17 AM (6p0Jv)

302 JQ. I must applaud your bartending skills👍!
Of course the night is young, and the crazy people haven't even shown up yet...we'll, at least not all of them(us)🤪...
I think I have a buck or two. I'll try to remember to leave you a tip💕...

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 14, 2025 12:17 AM (5lbLe)

303
210 Where can I find once ubiquitous fruitcake?

Next year in Corsicana!
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 13, 2025 11:22 PM (EXyHK)

LOL! I wonder how many readers “get it”.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 12:17 AM (k5cxK)

304 it was in vented by the guys at chex to sell more chex, why would you think somebody has a more desirable recipe?

chex has more money, more research, more motivation to get the best recipe for chex mix

Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:19 AM (4hlpI)

305 Country Boy’s Mom’s Homemade Chex Mi


did he ever come back form the philippines?

Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:20 AM (4hlpI)

306 271 I hate pergolas maybe more than any other structure, why even bother
Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:58 PM (4hlpI)

He was my favorite character in LOTR
Posted by: Kindltot at December 14, 2025 12:03 AM (rbvCR)

I admit I always thought Pergolas were pretty gay.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 12:22 AM (k5cxK)

307 Here you go, JQ.
3 C each: rice, corn, wheat chex, and pretzels.
1TBS worcestershire sauce
6 TBS melted butter
1TBS seasoned salt
1/2 tsp onion powder
2/3 tsp garlic powder
1/2 TBS Frank's hot sauce
200 degree oven. Bake 1 hour, shaking/stirring every 15-20 mins

Posted by: scampydog at December 14, 2025 12:22 AM (41CYW)

308 Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 14, 2025 12:17 AM
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THANK YOU!!!

*buys drink for Mary*

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:22 AM (rdVOm)

309 it was in vented by the guys at chex to sell more chex, why would you think somebody has a more desirable recipe?

chex has more money, more research, more motivation to get the best recipe for chex mix
Posted by: n


Don't think outside the box. The box exists because it holds all the good answers that everyone else found.

Posted by: mikeski at December 14, 2025 12:24 AM (nhCoE)

310 Don't think outside the box. The box exists because it holds all the good answers that everyone else found.
Posted by: m




Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:24 AM (4hlpI)

311 Diogenes, welcome to the Club ONT Christmas Party. You called it, Wazzu going to a bowl game. Lost their coach, but going to a bowl.
Posted by: scampydog at December 14, 2025 12:16 AM (41CYW)


Yup! The potato bowl! Woohoo.
And we have a new coach and I think he's going to do well.
Hey!!! There's extra nog in this eggnog!!!
Me likey!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 14, 2025 12:25 AM (2WIwB)

312 Ooooo... add hot sauce...

Thanks to you too, Doggo!

Hey, I found these lights for you. Felt bad that only Dino & Disco got their own...

https://tinyurl.com/tzbzk2sb

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:25 AM (rdVOm)

313 Don't think outside the box. The box exists because it holds all the good answers that everyone else found.
Posted by: m


it is chex mix, not woven square cereal made by dog food company mix, maybe they have some insight into this




smiley face

Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:26 AM (4hlpI)

314 I remember in senior year of high school, among a certain crowd you could be king of cool if you secured a flask of Bacardi 151. Yeah it tasted awful but you had it, they was what counted.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 12:27 AM (k5cxK)

315 Hey, I found these lights for you. Felt bad that only Dino & Disco got their own...

https://tinyurl.com/tzbzk2sb
Posted by: JQ
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Heh, those lights are awesome! Thank you.

Posted by: scampydog at December 14, 2025 12:28 AM (41CYW)

316 I remember in senior year of high school, among a certain crowd you could be king of cool if you secured a flask of Bacardi 151. Yeah it tasted awful but you had it, they was what counted.
Posted by: Tom Se




janitors?

Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:30 AM (4hlpI)

317 I remember in senior year of high school, among a certain crowd you could be king of cool if you secured a flask of Bacardi 151. Yeah it tasted awful but you had it, they was what counted.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Oh, I remember choking down a few swallows of same.. and then sniffing up the contents of a big black capsule.. and then going rollerskating. WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:30 AM (rdVOm)

318 ***adds more credits to jukebox***

Free plays continue, for our lovely party!!

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:33 AM (rdVOm)

319 Let's sing!
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 14, 2025 12:12 AM (f7Gew)

The line about myrrh always gets me. It's a spice used for embalming and that part of the song is a reminder of grim mission ahead for Mary's baby. It's perfectly rendered by the singer here..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 14, 2025 12:36 AM (nbLIj)

320 ***adds more credits to jukebox***

Yeah baby! Let's dance!

*face plants on dance floor*
Woops....

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 14, 2025 12:38 AM (5lbLe)

321 ***adds more credits to jukebox***
Free plays continue, for our lovely party!!
Posted by: JQ


https://youtu.be/wIQQDYaoWpc

Posted by: mikeski at December 14, 2025 12:38 AM (nhCoE)

322 We need to add Qatar to our Christmas card list.
Pour me a double, make it neat, bartender.
Going back to lurking.

Posted by: PartyCrasher at December 14, 2025 12:38 AM (4NeXw)

323 It's not Christmas until we have the Dropkick Murphys..

https://youtu.be/qTx-sdR6Yzk

Posted by: mindful webworker - tis the season at December 14, 2025 12:41 AM (lbDMw)

324 *pours double for PartyCrasher*

Not a fan of Qatar. Don't trust. We'll see how it goes, though.

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:42 AM (rdVOm)

325 Not a fan of Qatar. Don't trust. We'll see how it goes, though.
Posted by: JQ



you have to wonder why it was necessary to have an eo now

Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:47 AM (4hlpI)

326 It's not Christmas until we have the Dropkick Murphys..

https://youtu.be/qTx-sdR6Yzk
Posted by: mindful webworker - tis the season at December 14, 2025 12:41 AM (lbDMw)

A classic. I think we're ready for some El Vez,,,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irDjAMCAxqo

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 14, 2025 12:50 AM (nbLIj)

327 I hate pergolas maybe more than any other structure, why even bother
Posted by: n at December 13, 2025 11:58 PM (4hlpI)



Wasn't Pergolas the Elf who invented composite flooring?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 12:54 AM (npFr7)

328

Wasn't Pergolas the Elf who invented composite flooring?
Posted by: Alber




smiley face

Posted by: n at December 14, 2025 12:55 AM (4hlpI)

329 LOL! I wonder how many readers “get it”.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 14, 2025 12:17 AM (k5cxK)

A famous product of the Collin Street Bakery there.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 12:59 AM (npFr7)

330 I just heard that there are some cots out back to take a "rest". I'm gonna go see. Maybe come back around comment 500...


"I drink too much. The last time I gave a urine sample it had an olive in it." - Rodney Dangerfield

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 14, 2025 01:02 AM (5lbLe)

331 Not a fan of Qatar. Don't trust. We'll see how it goes, though.
Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 12:42 AM (rdVOm)

Meh. Qatar isn't much bigger than a WalMart parking lot. It's all performative.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 01:03 AM (npFr7)

332 Navy beat Army
Rangers beat Montreal

All is right with the world

Posted by: Archer at December 14, 2025 01:05 AM (YGRGv)

333
The line about myrrh always gets me. It's a spice used for embalming and that part of the song is a reminder of grim mission ahead for Mary's baby. It's perfectly rendered by the singer here..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 14, 2025 12:36

Yes, gold for a king, frankincense for a deity, and myrrh for a sacrifice. Almost the whole gospel story in one song.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at December 14, 2025 01:06 AM (f7Gew)

334 This is my personal favorite version of We Three Kings...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrn78V0AzEY
Posted by: Joe Kidd


I've heard worse versions. Music was good. Vocals nice.

Something about the guitar riff in that reminded me (& MiladyJo too) of something… racked my brain, finally came up with a line that let my search hit it: Sultans of Swing!
https://youtu.be/h0ffIJ7ZO4U

Posted by: mindful webworker - it ain't what they call rock n roll at December 14, 2025 01:06 AM (lbDMw)

335 I'm late. What happened to the party? Did the cops come and break it up?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 14, 2025 01:10 AM (lCxV1)

336 Check out our Embalming Month specials!

Posted by: Crazy Hakkim's House of Myrrh at December 14, 2025 01:13 AM (lCxV1)

337 Fruitcake is here !!

Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 01:15 AM (sDNVV)

338 Fruitcake is here !!
Posted by: Ben Had


Raimondo was posting? The CoBs banned him fast!

Posted by: mikeski at December 14, 2025 01:18 AM (nhCoE)

339 Hi, Ben Had!

We've still got Jingle Juice punch, and extra-nog eggnog..

Or whatever you'd like to drink.

The crowd is thinning, though.

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 01:19 AM (rdVOm)

340 Rainmandodo was fixin' to put a turd in the punchbowl, but got stopped.

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 01:19 AM (rdVOm)

341 I'm fashionably late because I had to let out my silver lame sheath.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 01:20 AM (sDNVV)

342 Ooooo. Silver lame! You look stunning, Ben Had!

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 01:22 AM (rdVOm)

343 Thank you, JQ. A Balvenie please.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 01:23 AM (sDNVV)

344 It took me an hour and 20 mins (normally a 20 min drive) to get home.

It was not that bad, although the stop and go traffic meant the mustang had a bit of traction issues.

Plus, Lexington could not be bothered to do any road treatment.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 14, 2025 01:24 AM (bss/y)

345 I'm late. What happened to the party? Did the cops come and break it up?
Posted by: Cicero
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Hahaha, no... it's just gotten quiet for a bit.

Jukebox is in "Free Play" mode, why not punch in your selection?

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 01:25 AM (rdVOm)

346 *Balvenie for Ben Had*

Neat, I presume?

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 01:26 AM (rdVOm)

347 JQ, you know your stuff! Throws a 50 in the tip jar.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 01:28 AM (sDNVV)

348 Thank you very much, Ben Had!

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 01:33 AM (rdVOm)

349 https://youtu.be/-XWTOKQE8bo

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 01:34 AM (rdVOm)

350 Work Christmas Party horror stories?

Has anyone else mentioned this is the wrong link?

Standards are really droppin' 'round here.

Posted by: But I'm a Hero, the media says so at December 14, 2025 01:38 AM (F/35S)

351 Party seems to be cooling down, before the next shift anyway. I'm going to get out of the way of all you hearty young partiers. Maybe catch you in the book thread. Maybe not. (Throws a Rwandan thousand-franc note in the tip jar. Tears off a chunk of fruitcake. Nom nom.)

https://youtu.be/rgk1I-cVv7U

G'nite, y'all.

Posted by: mindful webworker - does Grok dream of breathing and bleeding? at December 14, 2025 01:41 AM (lbDMw)

352 Work Christmas Party horror stories?
Has anyone else mentioned this is the wrong link?
Standards are really droppin' 'round here.
Posted by: But I'm a Hero, the media says so
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No, most of us just enjoyed the rest of the content and got on with the party, instead of insulting our hosts.

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 01:45 AM (rdVOm)

353 Chex is Purina People Chow.

Posted by: Racially Ambiguous Honky at December 14, 2025 01:47 AM (zdQuL)

354 >>Chex is Purina People Chow.
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LMAO!

*pours drink for R.A.H.*

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 01:48 AM (rdVOm)

355 Still here, watching videos in another tab. Weird-ass shotgun slugs.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 01:49 AM (npFr7)

356 Popping back in to say
https://youtu.be/-XWTOKQE8bo
Posted by: JQ


Thanks, JQ. That was just the nightcap I needed.

G'nite again, y'all.

Posted by: mindful webworker - pour the Guiness gently, lads at December 14, 2025 01:49 AM (lbDMw)

357 'Night, mindful! Thanks for the music!

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 01:49 AM (rdVOm)

358 Hate to drink and run but there are no days off in the livestock business.

Great party!

Posted by: Ben Had at December 14, 2025 01:51 AM (sDNVV)

359 Wonder if Berserker will pop in? Bet his IRL party is... LOUD. Heh.

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 01:51 AM (rdVOm)

360 Good night, Ben Had. Thanks for coming. Sorry you hit us at a lull in the action.

Merry Christmas!

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 01:53 AM (rdVOm)

361 Standards are really droppin' 'round here.
Posted by: But I'm a Hero, the media says so
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Fixed. LOL. Thanks for reading the content!

Posted by: scampydog at December 14, 2025 01:54 AM (41CYW)

362 Nice work, Doggo!

I admit to not noticing... some content is more appealing to me than other. Am sure others also pick what interests them most.

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 02:02 AM (rdVOm)

363 I'm back, it was like a MoMe out there by the firepit, just having so many lovely conversations. Baby its cold outside, need some more Chivas to warm me up. I'm sorry that I missed Ben Had, but I am glad that the party is still going on.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 14, 2025 02:02 AM (0nHVk)

364 *Chivas rocks for Debby*

Welcome back! Did you SEE that silver lame sheath that Ben Had wore? Wooh! She looked so good!

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 02:04 AM (rdVOm)

365 Oh, right... you missed her. Dang. She looked very festive!

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 02:05 AM (rdVOm)

366 I use my Aunt Belle Chester's Chex mix recipe. It has one of the Chex cereals, Kix cereal, plain Cheerios, skinny pretzels instead of the curled kind, mixed nuts, not peanuts, and I add whole raw pecan halves, too. And of course Worcestershire sauce, butter, and all sorts of spices, including Cayenne pepper and allspice or Chinese 5 spice, and more.

So good.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 14, 2025 02:06 AM (Vvh2V)

367 Am sure others also pick what interests them most.
Posted by: JQ
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All good. Some read all, some none, and between. And it's easier to copy/paste - which sometimes things get missed/errors. Better than and open tag! Those are harder to find.

Posted by: scampydog at December 14, 2025 02:12 AM (41CYW)

368 LOL, Doggo. The whole ONT is awesome tonight, 3Ds really rocked it this time.

One little mistake! Bah, whatever.

Heh, reminds me of a naughty little Christmas ditty that I found earlier... nsfw...

https://youtu.be/6U2XdkBkTTk

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 02:18 AM (rdVOm)

369 Well, I am off to the rack. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 14, 2025 02:23 AM (npFr7)

370 Love the 70's christmas pic. I see what looks like the small spare TV on top of the console TV that probably stopped working.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 14, 2025 02:38 AM (snZF9)

371 There were many guesses, as to the reason for dual-tvs, Bers. LOL

How was *your* party? I suppose it was LOUD. And fun!

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 02:40 AM (rdVOm)

372 That "F... it" picture, though... some days I totally get it.

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 02:43 AM (rdVOm)

373 Good night AOP, I am headed to bed too, little family Christmas get together was postponed until tomorrow. I am tired, JQ and the three D's did one heck of a job tonight. I missed Miklos tonight. Bers, I hope that your party was a blast. Sweet dreams Horde.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 14, 2025 02:46 AM (0nHVk)

374 Well, my house is still standing, no food on the walls, or floors, and nobody died. I'm calling it a win. Party went good. I'm sitting on 3 1/2 cases of beer, because nobody touched the 3 cases I bought and brought a shitload of their own. Somebody brought a shit ton of mead, the good stuff from Denmark, so we consumed copious amounts. The last person just left. I'm not even tired.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 14, 2025 02:46 AM (snZF9)

375 'Night, AOP and Debby. Glad you could make it!

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 02:51 AM (rdVOm)

376 How was *your* party? I suppose it was LOUD. And fun!

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 02:40 AM (rdVOm)

Yeah it was pretty epic, and yeah at times loud.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 14, 2025 02:52 AM (snZF9)

377 https://youtu.be/n543eKIdbUI

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 02:54 AM (rdVOm)

378 Merry Christmas to all!

Posted by: Miflin at December 14, 2025 03:09 AM (aA6YN)

Posted by:
at December 14, 2025 03:12 AM (dkXMQ)

380 Great party, maybe I should have mingled more, but I've been hanging out with Bella & Luna talking pet thread.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at December 14, 2025 03:20 AM (KaHlS)

381 reminds me of a med school holiday punch from back last century; Hawaiian Punch & Everclear, with blobs of cranberry sauce floating in it ....
representing serum & blood clots.

thx, g'bye

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 14, 2025 03:24 AM (Cjt/F)

382 Cat stayed outside last night & it wasn't terribly cold. He caught a hot breakfast and left a helluva mess by the patio door: feathers e-v-e-r-ywhere! Had to get the blower out 'cause broom wasn't very effective. LOL.

Critters. Gotta love 'em!

Posted by: JQ at December 14, 2025 03:26 AM (rdVOm)

Saturday Evening Movie Thread - 12/13/2025

Promised but Never Delivered



Movie studios have been trying to build franchises out of almost every major special effects spectacle since the 80s. It's the Star Wars and Indiana Jones influence. One film's box office gold is supposed to lead to another and another until everything just runs out of gas. And so, Hollywood is littered with purported starts to franchises that failed to go past the first entry. The Rocketeer, Lost in Space, The Dark Tower, they all ended with promises of further adventures that never came to be.

However, there are two over the past roughly fifteen years that hold special places in my heart, a pair of films so different from each other that are both considered huge box office bombs (one, the largest ever for a time) that I still yearn for sequels to. Now, just to make this clear...I do not think these sequels will ever materialize. One may...have a 1% chance of happening if lightning strikes the same spot fifteen times in a row, but otherwise, no. I don’t think these sequels will ever get made. The franchises are dead, and they will probably never be resurrected.

Those are: John Carter and King Arthur: Legend of the Sword. Both were big, wildly expensive spectacles based on tales old before any of the creatives were born. The first, based on the first of the Barsoom novels, A Princess of Mars, by Edgar Rice Burroughs, and the second a mishmash (let's be honest, every telling of King Arthur is a mishmash) of Arthurian legends. And I just...jive with them. I kind of love the former, and I really like the latter, and I've seen far worse films get sequels.

Box Office Failure


Let's get this out of the way: the tale of two studios spending way too much money on movies that they shouldn’t have spent too much on.

John Carter was the first live action feature film directed by Andrew Stanton, the PIXAR director who made Finding Nemo and WALL-E. Disney wanted a franchise to compete with the likes of Star Wars, so they gave Stanton, trusted creative, carte blanche to make a wildly expensive sci-fi adventure based on the granddaddy of sci-fi adventures. But...everything went wrong.

Stanton, with no experience in live-action films, essentially filmed the movie twice, making the film wildly, wildly expensive when it should have just had one wildly, at most. Months before the release of the film, Disney acquired the Marvel rights and were already talking to George Lucas about buying Star Wars, so the need for a boys’ adventure sci-fi series died out (and then they put Kathleen Kennedy in charge, which is another thing altogether). Stanton was given control of the marketing, and he approved some of the worst trailers for the film, selling the movie as some sort of somber experience without any real build up within the trailers themselves. Taylor Kitsch's miscasting (I think he’s...fine in the role, but he doesn't have the easy charm John Carter probably should have) became a central reason for critics to crap all over the film. And then the film is based on the granddaddy of sci-fi pulp, the kind of old story that has DNA is most modern sci-fi and fantasy today, making it decidedly old fashioned and feeling derivative.

Honestly, it doesn't surprise me that it was a box office bomb, but I fought the idea for weeks after its release, hoping against hope that there would be some great resurgence of interest in the property several weeks after release and everyone knowing it was a giant failure. My hopes were not answered.

King Arthur: Legend of the Sword is a contrasting tale of failure, though, starting with the fact that the trailers for the film are actually really good. I think they sell it well, making it look exciting and fun without any sort of misdirection towards the audience. Guy Ritchie, the director, had a history of bringing his hyperactive style to historically set films in his two Robert Downey Jr. starring Sherlock Holmes films, a connection which the trailers promote. And, it failed to make its production budget back, sources saying that Warner Bros. Lost $150 million on the movie. That's a lot of money, so the planned six film series was canceled after only one.

I think the explanation for King Arthur’s failure largely stems from the fact that mass audiences don't seem that interested in medieval fantasy films. There is one major exception in The Lord of the Rings (and The Hobbit), but medieval fantasy in general just doesn't seem to be a natural fit with mass audiences. They tend to eschew them rather them embrace them. The Chronicles of Narnia films, the first released right alongside The Lord of the Rings, steadily died out after three films. Eragon, based on a popular novel, was a huge bomb. Solomon Kane, based on the Robert E. Howard character, made no money. You can point back to the 80s and films like Excalibur, but that only made $35 million (a profit for the $11 million film, granted). The 80s were probably the height of the medieval fantasy genre's popularity across the board, and not even Conan the Barbarian hit $100 million (the modern telling, released in 2011, made about $60 million off of a $90 million budget).

I mean, I really like medieval fantasy. I jive with it. But mass audiences don't seem all that keen on it.

The Future that Never Was


So, what would have been? What if Disney hadn’t been buying Star Wars and had decided to back John Carter completely? What if Stanton had managed his set better and spent half as much money? What if audiences had just decided to give King Arthur a shot? What would we have seen?

Well, the easy one to answer is John Carter's supposed sequels. John Carter follows the basic plot of A Princess of Mars quite closely. There are additions, like the Therns gain a lot more prevalence in this early story than in Burroughs' series, and some specifics around transportation between Earth and Barsoom gets created, but in the larger plot points. It's A Princess of Mars. So, what would the second movie have been? Well, largely The Gods of Mars, the tale of what John Carter does when he returns to Barsoom ten years later. It would tell of the fight against Iss, the self-proclaimed goddess of Mars, the Black Pirates, the Therns, and Zondanga with Carter reconnecting with his friend Tars Tarkas, his wife Dejah Thoris, and meeting his son, Cathoris, as recklessly brave as his father. And then, the planned sequel would have seen the adaptation of The Warlord of Mars which sees John Carter becoming ruler of the entire planet.

I'm sure Stanton would have kept the basic narrative bones and rearranged a lot of details, but it's not hard to imagine where that series would have gone, and it would have entertained me greatly.

The more interesting question, though, is around King Arthur. As I said, any tale of King Arthur at this point is a mishmash of legend, Romance, and history, so there's no "true" telling of it. Le Morte d’Arthur by Thomas Malory disagrees in many details with Geoffrey of Monmouth's sketches in Historia Regum Britanniae. And it's a tale that’s been told by many, many people over more than a thousand years. Ritchie turning it into a cross between Conan the Barbarian and Ritchie's own low-level gangster movies was a definite creative choice to push Arthur in a new direction, but he also barely scratched the surface of the established tales while adding his own twists.

We only see Merlin once, in a flashback, and we don't even see his face. The character called Mage was originally written as Guinevere, but any mention of her being Arthur's future wife were scrubbed out of the edit and through ADR, so they could still re-introduce her. Morgan le Fay is never even mentioned. There is a character called Mordred in the beginning, killed in the prologue, but that doesn't preclude the introduction in a later edition of the traditional Mordred (Arthur’s son/nephew by way of Morgan le Fay). In terms of the Knights of the Round Table, we only get Bedivere, Percival, and Tristan. So, no Lancelot, no Gawain, and no Galahad (there are dozens more in the legends over the centuries). Really, sequels were wide open.

And the first sequel I would have liked to see might have gone something like this: Merlin and Morgan le Fay are in combat in the north, a war of mages far from Camelot. Lancelot comes from France to challenge the knights at a tourney (being a Guy Ritchie film, there would be bare-knuckle boxing). Lancelot is big, strong, and arrogant, and he is also the only man who could be Arthur’s equal in combat. They bond over beating each other up, but Lancelot has a secret that even he doesn’t know: he’s being manipulated by Morgan le Fay into acting as a distraction. Merlin sends Mage (not Guinevere) to ask for help. The second act is breaking Lancelot's spell. The third act is a big fight, ala Shadows of the Colossus where Arthur and Lancelot in particular have to climb a giant forest creature, his head and shoulders populated with trees since he's from the earth, to fight Morgan or some heavy at the top. One big, expensive action setpiece later, the knights have added a figure (maybe even Galahad in tow), and we're ready for movie #3.

Never Happening


Really, the two original films I just really enjoy watching. Patrick H. Willems described what he called "vibe movies", movies less about plot and more about just being in the world created by the filmmakers (his central film in his video was Christopher Nolan’s Tenet). And that's kind of how I feel about John Carter and King Arthur: Legend of the Sword in very different ways.

John Carter is a big, earnest, sometimes goofy, old-school adventure film. Its big heart it wearshu unironically on its sleeve as it tells the story of a rootless man finding something to fight for once more. It’s told with color and energy, and I just get on its wavelength and enjoy the somewhat silly ride.

King Arthur's Conan the Barbarian influences (its first shot is of a temple that resembles Thulsa Doom's temple in Milius' film alongside a tower that looks a lot like the Serpent's Tower in the same film, and there’s a lot of snake stuff overall, including a giant snake in the end) mixed with Ritchie's low-level gangster stuff is a weird mix, but it's something I really enjoy. The film is imperfect (the mix is sometimes not that great, a lot of the CGI is fun but feels wasteful and indulgent, and there's an emotional bit for Vortigern, the bad guy, late in the film that's just poorly established), but I still just find myself bobbing my head back and forth to Daniel Pemberton's soundtrack anyway. Structurally, it's actually surprisingly sound, even if Ritchie is throwing things in a blender within individual sequences.

And both movies, I feel, artistically deserved sequels. Mostly because, well, I liked them. And I'd rather have Hollywood spend money to entertain me than making another Fast and Furious movie.

But it was never meant to be. My tastes were always going to be more niche, and that's just the world I live in.

What movies that promised sequels that never materialized do you sometimes still yearn for?
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Movies of Today

Opening in Theaters:

Benedetta

Movies I Saw This Fortnight:

Forever Amber (Rating 1.5/4) Full Review "This isn’t good. It’s mostly just kind of...dull." [YouTube]

Where the Sidewalk Ends (Rating 4/4) Full Review "I mean...finally, Preminger works from a script by Ben Hecht. It’s what he needed. " [Plex]

Angel Face (Rating 3/4) Full Review "I think it's solidly good, undone by some late stage choices that grind things to a halt. However, the line on characters, the production itself, and the noirish coat of paint all make Angel Face a compelling drama that Preminger manages well, even if Howard Hughes had hired him to torture Jean Simmons." [Library]

River of No Return (Rating 2.5/4) Full Review "The overall world feels deeply incomplete, and the story itself feels underserved but with some nice payoffs to things set up earlier. It's not good, but it's surprisingly interesting in the end." [Hoopla]

Carmen Jones (Rating 3.5/4) Full Review "It's an odd duck that way, much like a good portion of Preminger's filmography. However, so much is so right that it stands near the top of his work." [Library]

The Man with the Golden Arm (Rating 3/4) Full Review "Adapting work from other mediums, Preminger is finding composed, solid success, although I feel a certain limitation on his ability to push the medium to its fullest potential." [Amazon Prime]

The Court-Martial of Billy Mitchell (Rating 1.5/4) Full Review "Preminger...frustrates me." [YouTube]

Saint Joan (Rating 1/4) Full Review "I...did not like this film." [YouTube]

Contact

Email any suggestions or questions to thejamesmadison.aos at symbol gmail dot com.
I've also archived all the old posts here, by request. I'll add new posts a week after they originally post at the HQ.
My next thread will be on 1/3 and it will discuss the directing career of Otto Preminger.

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Comments

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1 Once again, no Summer School starring Mark Harmon.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 13, 2025 07:31 PM (u73oe)

2 The gilded age intro probably jarred the viewet out of the film

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:35 PM (bXbFr)

3 From the beginning

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:35 PM (bXbFr)

4 I too, am a fan of the John Carter movie - and not just because of Lynn Collins. Thanks for the thread, TJM.

Posted by: scampydog at December 13, 2025 07:37 PM (46ZIb)

5 2012 Dredd almost got the widely desired sequel.

Posted by: davidt at December 13, 2025 07:38 PM (Q+gd/)

6 ‘ King Arthur: Legend of the Sword is a contrasting tale of failure, though, starting with the fact that the trailers’

Maybe they should just release the trailer then.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 07:40 PM (fd80v)

7 If you make it past this barrier to barsoom you find a lot to like

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:41 PM (bXbFr)

8 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:41 PM (Ia/+0)

9 I was not mad at your payers when I posted James 4.
I was just asking that as I here but a minute that the Lord know best how to answer.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 07:42 PM (gbOdA)

10 I liked "John Carter", darn it. Yes, Taylor K. With his flowing locks is not the grim John Carter with the scimitar smile, but he's an appealing actor and gets by on charm. Tars Tarkas and Woola make the movie for me, and the style of the Martian tech is right off an Amazing Stories cover.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 07:42 PM (kpS4V)

11 I’ve always been a fan of the Arthurian legend. King Arthur: Legend of the Sword Didn’t do it for me and I don’t even remember why. I just remember being disappointed.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 13, 2025 07:43 PM (u73oe)

12 TJM I sadly can't follow your lists of movies by directors, no way to pull movies out like that.
Really think am getting something out of your videos as never looked at movies much more than Entertainment

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:44 PM (Ia/+0)

13 Of course so many films and tv shows have borrowed from princess of mars

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:44 PM (bXbFr)

14 There was lots more material that a sequel to "Master and Commander" could draw on. Probably not made for the same reason medieval movies don't cut it.

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at December 13, 2025 07:44 PM (BXUnK)

15 I liked John Carter; I think it was the marriage of old fashioned fantasy and sci-fi (plus all that desert) that appealed to me. Even as a bomb, it's so vastly superior to the crap Disney is turning out today.

I liked The Rocketeer, too; didn't know that one or more sequels originally had been contemplated.

Posted by: Paco at December 13, 2025 07:45 PM (2L+MU)

16 I recently rewatched Excalibur. It’s more a fever dream than a movie.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 13, 2025 07:45 PM (u73oe)

17 James 4 14 - 16
me
we are here and gone
so dont ask of G D
ask G D will

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 07:45 PM (gbOdA)

18 You would think with guy ritchies tast for posh surtoundings

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:45 PM (bXbFr)

19 He would direct king arthur in grand style

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:46 PM (bXbFr)

20 Heck Ya!... I liked the Princess of Mars (John Carter) Movie.

I never figured out why the "critics" hated on this simple Movie.

DF1

Been Creepin' on Ace for 10 years, finally had to post.

Posted by: DFrosty1 at December 13, 2025 07:46 PM (1p2AI)

21 Guy Ritchie's movie sorta works if you remove all the Arthurian stuff and make it a generic/new fantasy setting.

It's the Arthurian roots that make me reject this movie. I mean, it hardly has Merlin, it makes Arthur grow up around whores and pimps (such nobility and role models!) and it has Kung Fu George. Fucking Kung Fu George in Arthurian England.

*eyetwitch*

John Carter was silly when it should have been exciting and chaste when it should have been sexy. I never have managed to finish it, I just bounce off the first half hour every time. IMO, it's just too stupid to live.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at December 13, 2025 07:46 PM (xcxpd)

22 Of course "John Carter" needed to have the costuming from the books, especially for the Princess of Mars. But then it'd would probably need an R rating.

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (BXUnK)

23 Seriously, if Hollywood was really wholly into girlboss characters at least SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE would have done Anne McCaffery "Dragonriders of Pern", but NOOOOOOOOOO because that series had "normal" M/F relationships where each pair STRENGTHENED each other!

Sorry, real bitter that Dragonriders has never been made into a movie!

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (e/Osv)

24 'The 80s were probably the height of the medieval fantasy genre's popularity across the board'

Well, yeah. All of us Dungeons and Dragons playing teenagers liked that stuff.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (fd80v)

25 Miguel, I liked the period intro, if you mean Carter's message to his nephew(?).

I didn't like the stupid trope of Carter having a wife who died in his arms. It's that "let's kill off someone for easy pathos and sympathy for the lead character" crap. And it wasn't in the book.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (kpS4V)

26 It doesnt follow the book but i dont think yoi could sewuentially do so

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (bXbFr)

27 My brother and I could make Vegas Vaca for hlaf the $$$
and twice the money

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 07:48 PM (gbOdA)

28 Promethius and the three bears.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 07:48 PM (Kt19C)

29 If they had done John Carter faithfully, it wouldn't be a family movie. Aside from the violence, there would have been bewbs everywhere - red Martian bewbs, green Martian bewbs, white Martian bewbs....

Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 07:48 PM (i85MS)

30 28 Promethius and the three bears.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 07:48 PM (Kt19C)

this zenomorphe is just right

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 07:48 PM (gbOdA)

31 12 TJM I sadly can't follow your lists of movies by directors, no way to pull movies out like that.
Really think am getting something out of your videos as never looked at movies much more than Entertainment
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:44 PM (Ia/+0)

A lot, but not all, of those movies can found online. Either at Archive.org, or Ok.Ru.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at December 13, 2025 07:49 PM (xcxpd)

32 Yes that gets a little old

If you want to introduce this world to an unfamiliar audience would you do it this way

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:49 PM (bXbFr)

33 TJM, what's that FunkoPop and license plate on your bookshelf?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 07:49 PM (kpS4V)

34 The sequel I want to see is Kung Fury 2, but it may never be released. Some legal issue with the distributer.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 07:50 PM (3uBP9)

35 Generally I do like swords and sorcery movies

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:50 PM (Ia/+0)

36 Probably you would need two films likd the way villeneuvr sectioned dune

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:51 PM (bXbFr)

37 The common elements to these film makers are valuable

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:52 PM (bXbFr)

38 16 I recently rewatched Excalibur. It’s more a fever dream than a movie.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 13, 2025 07:45 PM (u73oe

=====

Arrow is releasing a 4K in a few months.

Preordered.

Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 07:52 PM (GBKbO)

39 I just got HD TV and it certainly has possibly I haven't explored.
Said my main channel TCM it won't let me see without a subscription now. If I had normal channel I could. Still see one of the local.movie channels in non HD

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:53 PM (Ia/+0)

40 31 12 TJM I sadly can't follow your lists of movies by directors, no way to pull movies out like that.
Really think am getting something out of your videos as never looked at movies much more than Entertainment
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:44 PM (Ia/+0)

A lot, but not all, of those movies can found online. Either at Archive.org, or Ok.Ru.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at December 13, 2025 07:49Pre-ordered.

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Google leads the way.

Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 07:53 PM (GBKbO)

41 22 Of course "John Carter" needed to have the costuming from the books, especially for the Princess of Mars. But then it'd would probably need an R rating.
Posted by: Raoul Ortega at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (BXUnK)

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Eh.

The original art leaned heavily towards Egyptian. Frazetta was decades later.

Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 07:54 PM (GBKbO)

42 SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE would have done Anne McCaffery "Dragonriders of Pern"
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (e/Osv)

^^THIS^^
So many great books that could have been made into movies! Heck, Pern could have been a 10 year series, based on the number of books.

Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 07:54 PM (i85MS)

43 John Carter was a good film if you'd read the books.
I read the first two.

I enjoyed the film.

But Disney didn't know how to market it, and most of the population had never heard of John Carter or the Princess of Mars, and it looked like a cheesy alien kids movie in the trailers.

There was also that 'Mars Curse' on Disney as Mars Needs Moms had bombed badly not too long before.

I wish they'd made a sequel to the film as the basic story is pretty interesting and the way John Carter travels to Mars so mysteriously and then comes back to Earth just as mysteriously and with decades having passed.

It could have made a decent franchise if done right, or at least a TV series.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 07:55 PM (6ydKt)

44 Or lack of costuming

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:55 PM (bXbFr)

45 33 TJM, what's that FunkoPop and license plate on your bookshelf?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 07:49 PM (kpS4V)


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Funko is Doc Brown with the mind reader on his head. Junior's. A gift from a while ago.

Plate is OUTATIME, also from Back to the Future.

Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 07:55 PM (GBKbO)

46 ^^THIS^^
So many great books that could have been made into movies! Heck, Pern could have been a 10 year series, based on the number of books.
Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 07:54 PM (i85MS)
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Considering how Wheel of Time was butchered by Amazon, I don't trust ANY modern studio to give classic works a proper treatment on either the small or large screen.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 07:56 PM (ESVrU)

47 Yeah, there's a lot of flat-out nekkidness in the Barsoom stories, and that ain't happening onscreen.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 07:56 PM (kpS4V)

48 I just watched the latest Knives Out movie, Wake Up Dead Man and quite liked it, much more than Glass Onion and even more than the original. Part of this is because I like shows about ordinary people much more than those about the rich and famous. Part because it is set in a small Catholic parish church. And the plot is an impossible murder referencing John Dickson Carr. Some may see it as sacrilegious or even blasphemous but I don't. So, recommended.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 07:57 PM (L/fGl)

49 The thing about Master and Commander, it could easily have had sequels, but I never felt the need for them.

I wanted them, but the original film felt complete at the same time.

And I don't think any sequel would have matched it.

Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 07:57 PM (GBKbO)

50
I see shorts for these little Peacock and Netflix and Hulu series and in every one of them, people are screaming at each other or accusing each other of malfeasance or betrayal or infidelity. Dinners always feature some dark revelation or hatred for someone else. Nobody is polite or charitable or supportive or loving. The dialogue may be sardonic but never funny. What is it with the producers and writers of these things?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 07:58 PM (tgvbd)

51 47
'Yeah, there's a lot of flat-out nekkidness in the Barsoom stories, and that ain't happening onscreen.'

Yeah. All the college age men would hate that.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 07:59 PM (fd80v)

52 Yeah amazon would mess it up maybe paramount

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 07:59 PM (bXbFr)

53 "The Rocketeer" is a perfect movie, and unless the sequels were also perfect, I'm glad it's a one-shot.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 07:59 PM (kpS4V)

54 Saw John Carter when it first came out -- kinda liked it, but would have to see it again. People hating it? Well, okay, everything is hated by somebody, but I don't recall it was anywhere near bad enough to rate the abuse it got.

The flick I'd have liked to see become a franchise was Remo Williams. Fred Ward and Joel Grey were delightful in it.

McCaffrey's Pern? Would make a NICE series of films, but what would our current crop of enlightened filmmakers do to it on its way to the screen? One shudders to think.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 08:00 PM (q3u5l)

55 Considering how Wheel of Time was butchered by Amazon, I don't trust ANY modern studio to give classic works a proper treatment on either the small or large screen.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 07:56 PM (ESVrU)

Perfessor, I hate to have to agree, but you are so, so, so sadly correct. In the 80's-90's I think I would have expected the studios to do a good job (or maybe a campy job -like several of the Fantastic 4's of the time), but now, sad to say, I don't trust Hollywood, AT ALL!

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 08:01 PM (e/Osv)

56 Thats who the writers are backbiting weasels

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:01 PM (bXbFr)

57 Yeah i like remo williams fred ward as an action star whatever joel grey was doing

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:02 PM (bXbFr)

58 So glad you mentioned John Carter. I thought I was about the only one who enjoyed it. Haven't been to a movie theater since the 2003 release of Return of the King but do get DVDs now and then and this was one. Damn! What a fun movie. Old style adventure, plenty of humor but not a parody like the Batman TV series. And great special effects. The more I learned critics hated it the more I wanted to see it. Once again: my preference 1, critics 0. Lynn Collins completed the appeal.

Sorry I didn't see it on a big screen.

Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 08:03 PM (yTvNw)

59 Look at how much has been soent on avatar

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:03 PM (bXbFr)

60 Been some time now, year maybe read someone was trying for a pre-quil of Patrick O'Brian story Master and Commander. Obviously the original actors have to be replaced

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 08:04 PM (Ia/+0)

61 I don't know it was the medieval setting that killed Narnia, so much as the movie makers. The first was quite good. The 2nd just wasn't; enough worse that I never bothered with the 3rd.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 08:04 PM (s0JqF)

62 The thing about Master and Commander, it could easily have had sequels, but I never felt the need for them.

I wanted them, but the original film felt complete at the same time.

And I don't think any sequel would have matched it.
Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 07:57 PM (GBKbO)
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I agree. I love the books, but the film was meant to be an homage, and it worked wonderfully.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 13, 2025 08:04 PM (0aYVJ)

63 @50

>> And I don't think any sequel would have matched it.

Well constructed films don’t need sequels.

Sequels are cash grabs in the main.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 13, 2025 08:05 PM (XV/Pl)

64 For my money the sequel that ought to have been was one or more coming after Master and Commander. And there was plenty of material to work from. But I understand it lost $. Why, I don't know. It's the last movie I really liked.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 08:05 PM (s0JqF)

65 Tl;dr

TJM is not a complete effette tool hipster when it comes to film.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:05 PM (zZu0s)

66 The Trump lyes abouts my Black Presdent T shits is be back in stock.


Gets yoors befoor they be gone.

Posted by: Mary Cloggistein from Brattleboro, Vt at December 13, 2025 08:05 PM (ySHsh)

67 Sequels I wanted: The Last Starfighter, Come and See, Time Bandits
Sequels I didn't want: Rocky V, Star Wars 6, Jaws 2 and 3D.

Posted by: LGBTQ+POC, ANTI RACIST HERO at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (PHmbR)

68 Speaking of franchises, the Critical Drinker does Starfleet Academy.

https://is.gd/3zNZ9c

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (L/fGl)

69 Also two great sets of books that could be made into a whole slew of movies or series':
The Miles Vorkosigan books from Lois McMaster Bujold. It's ... well, I can't describe it except to say he pulls a lot of shenanigans to solve problems. Pulling them off relies partly on his brains, people's tendency to mis-underestimate him, and some connection to power.

The Chanur novels of C.J. Cherryh. Her aliens are not just humans in rubber suits, but think differently. The Cuckoo's Egg could also be done, if it was done right. I doubt her Foreigner novels would translate well to film, though you might try them as animated movies.

Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (nuE1e)

70 I liked John Carter as well , but yes it needed way more boobs.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (k5cxK)

71 65 Tl;dr

TJM is not a complete effette tool hipster when it comes to film.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:05 PM (zZu0s

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Am an asshole, though.

Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (GBKbO)

72 John Carter was but needed to be tighter. It is hard to do and set up the story, but it drug too long on earth (and overall, honestly.)

Like the movie though.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:07 PM (zZu0s)

73 Yeah that is cringe worthy

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:07 PM (bXbFr)

74 72 John Carter was but needed to be tighter. It is hard to do and set up the story, but it drug too long on earth (and overall, honestly.)

Like the movie though.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:07 PM (zZu0s

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I'd recast Carter and eliminate the Barsoom prologue. The earth stuff i dig.

Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:08 PM (GBKbO)

75 Speaking of Bewbs, I always liked the Robert Mitchum - Marilyn movie on the river. Mitchum is one of my all time favorites.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 08:08 PM (k5cxK)

76 I liked John Carter as well , but yes it needed way more boobs.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (k5cxK)

In this case, I cannot think of a gal who would fit Boris' vision who would have done better. The gal in the movie is a knock out. And plays it straight with no cheese or ham.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:08 PM (zZu0s)

77 Umm, so speaking of movies. I'm streaming Tubi (cut the other cord about a year ago).

So did anyone know there was a "Conan the Barbarian" movie released in 2011 starring Jason Mamoa?

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 08:09 PM (e/Osv)

78 It looks more like Starfleet Saved By The Bell.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:09 PM (6ydKt)

79 Are Bond Films sequels?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 13, 2025 08:10 PM (XV/Pl)

80 The John Carter movie was really a very good movie, too bad it was hammered by the critics. Call it what you will, marketing is paramount, but the casting was excellent and the cinematography was top notch. It's hard to fuck up a production as well made as this was.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 13, 2025 08:10 PM (1zOXE)

81 Filming movies back to back is a great way to ensure continuity, if the money is there to do it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 08:10 PM (kpS4V)

82 One of my favorite Preminger's is Anatomy of a Murder.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 08:10 PM (L/fGl)

83 I'd recast Carter and eliminate the Barsoom prologue. The earth stuff i dig.
Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:08 PM (GBKbO)

Hmmm. Yeah, that could work too. Just tell it from Carter's POV? I like it. Would match the book.

But I still think even doing that that the earth stuff would drag. Cut the will part. Until the end. Reveal that the kid is reading Carters account.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:10 PM (zZu0s)

84 Don't think I ever saw that particular King Arthur movie. I have seen the John Carter flick quite a few times. It grew on me. Lynn Collins is one pretty gal and that helped me watch it more than once. It's a solid action flick with a good story.

And Lynn Collins is hot!

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 08:11 PM (rii+a)

85 77 Umm, so speaking of movies. I'm streaming Tubi (cut the other cord about a year ago).

So did anyone know there was a "Conan the Barbarian" movie released in 2011 starring Jason Mamoa?

-SLV
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 08:09 PM (e/Osv)

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Even mentioned it in the content.

I saw it on theaters (the dollar theater, to be honest), and i own the 3D Blu-ray.

Its...okay.

Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:11 PM (GBKbO)

86 @GWB

The Miles Vorkosigan books from Lois McMaster Bujold.

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LOVED the Miles books!!!!!!!!

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 08:11 PM (e/Osv)

87 Considering how Wheel of Time was butchered by Amazon, I don't trust ANY modern studio to give classic works a proper treatment on either the small or large screen.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 07:56 PM (ESVrU)

I never read Wheel Of Time, so I was baffled by the complaints many had. But I will absolutely agree with your assessment.

If someone wrote ME a very large check to make Pern (or Chanur, or Miles Vorkosigan) I would certainly do it justice. I'm a visual reader and have built the scenes in my mind for years.

Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 08:11 PM (K1PX7)

88 Svengoolie has duel

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:11 PM (bXbFr)

89 Speaking of movies, "Duel" is on Svengoolie.

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 08:12 PM (vFG9F)

90 @TJM

Jason Mamoa was better than Arn-ahld...

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 08:12 PM (e/Osv)

91 The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension needed a sequel. It was even mentioned at the end of the movie.

Posted by: MichiCanuck at December 13, 2025 08:13 PM (VoMie)

92 How would you follow that up

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:14 PM (bXbFr)

93 It would have been fun to explore the other subcultures of Barsoom, like the technophile Black Martians and the polar Yellow Martians, the people living on one of the moons, and heck, toss in the Skeleton Men of Jupiter.

And the mad scientist creating men from a vat of fleshy goo or doing brain transplants would be a laff riot.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 08:15 PM (kpS4V)

94 Speaking of movies, "Duel" is on Svengoolie.
Posted by: fd

For starting out as a second banana on Gunsmoke, Dennis Weaver did all right for himself.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 08:16 PM (L/fGl)

95
One of my favorite Preminger's is Anatomy of a Murder.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 08:10 PM (L/fGl)


Another good book ruined by Otto Preminger

Anatomy of a Murder: ruined
Advise and Consent: ruined
In Harm's Way: ruined

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 08:16 PM (tgvbd)

96 John Carter is a mystery to me as well. I avoided in its theatrical run, based on the near-universal panning it received.

A while back it came up a suggested freebie in Amazon Prime Video. "What the hell... I can just turn it off when it starts to suck." (see: "The Rings of Power".. I rejected that one less than ten minutes in).

To my surprise, it didn't suck at all. I've seen far, far, worse F&SF movies. I completely agree that it's sequel-worthy (as you suggest, Burroughs wrote about a billion of those books, so it's not like there's a shortage of material).

In regard to Master and Commander, I think one reason it was failed to garner any awards was that it was up against the juggernaut of The Return of the King. That probably hurt it at the box office at least some, too,

A fine, fine film, which I need to watch again.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:16 PM (IG3/x)

97 91 The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension needed a sequel. It was even mentioned at the end of the movie.
Posted by: MichiCanuck at December 13, 2025 08:13 PM (VoMie)

Camp-y movies of the 80-90 period were FUN, as opposed to MANY movies these days. I greatly enjoyed Buckaroo.

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 08:16 PM (e/Osv)

98 The books are tailor made for movies. Being episodic. Periodic narrative changes as this or that guy become the protagonist of a book.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:17 PM (zZu0s)

99 True, I was waiting for years for the sequel to Buckaroo Banzai.

I guess it was too far out there and didn't make enough money.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:17 PM (6ydKt)

100 96
In regard to Master and Commander, I think one reason it was failed to garner any awards was that it was up against the juggernaut of The Return of the King. That probably hurt it at the box office at least some, too,

A fine, fine film, which I need to watch again.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:16 PM (IG3/x)

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Peter Weir is an artist, and timing killed his best chances at that Oscar.

M&C is a masterpiece. Love it so much.

Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:18 PM (GBKbO)

101 Sorry I didn't see it on a big screen.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 08:03 PM (yTvNw)

That's one of the other bits. John Carter is a BIG SCREEN flick. Or it should be. Something to make vast red deserts look really vast, and 4-armed Martians leaping out from the rocks look huge and terrifying.

Pern would have to be. It's about flying dragons in the sky and dogfighting with them. If you shot it to look right on a TV, it would suffer.

Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 08:18 PM (K1PX7)

102 Advice and consent was not easy to adapt

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:20 PM (bXbFr)

103 Zelazny's Amber books would make a nice series of flicks.

So would Lawrence Block's Matt Scudders -- two were done, one with Jeff Bridges and the other with Liam Neeson (the better of the two). But no series of films, darn it.

So would John D. MacDonald's Travis McGees -- two were done, one with Rod Taylor and one for television with Sam Elliott. No series of films, darn it. Taylor's, Darker Than Amber, is worth a watch just for the absolutely brutal fight sequence between Taylor and William Smith at the finish. No stunt doubles.

Quite a few films from Westlake's Parker novels, but they're all over the map.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 08:20 PM (q3u5l)

104 Carter of Mars was an extremely difficult project to adapt. It just was doomed from the start. Admirable failure but a failure nonetheless.

Posted by: weft cut loop at December 13, 2025 08:21 PM (mlg/3)

105 Hi all,
Speaking of sequels. Did anyone watch the Spinal Tap sequel? I didn't even realized it had been made but saw something about it recently. I presume it doesn't work but maybe others differ?

Some good movies I've seen recently are TRAIN DREAMS, NOUVELLE VAGUE, SENTIMENTAL VALUE, IT WAS ONLY AN ACCIDENT, NO OTHER CHOICE and watching JAY KELLY now.

I think TRAIN DREAMS will be my #1 for the year, though there are dozens I haven't seen which I should.

Posted by: Lex at December 13, 2025 08:21 PM (y4H1r)

106
I forgot

The Cardinal: ruined

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 08:21 PM (tgvbd)

107 The effects in JC also look pretty good without being cheesy. Woola and the Green men come off surprisingly well.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:21 PM (zZu0s)

108 Master and Commander is a male-centric film.
I'm not surprised it didn't get many awards based on that alone.

The female Oscar voters watching it probably fell asleep half-way through.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:21 PM (6ydKt)

109 Strangest feeling of deja vu reading the post. Oh, yeah: it's 'cause I watched that video already.

Still have your Capra one to watch, so, yeah.

"The Rocketeer" is a perfect movie, and unless the sequels were also perfect, I'm glad it's a one-shot.
Posted by: All Hail Eris


Very much so!

Posted by: mindful webworker - film flam at December 13, 2025 08:21 PM (lbDMw)

110 On war movie reviews of realism Master and Commander often wins big marks.
I definitely put it in my top war movies

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 08:21 PM (Ia/+0)

111 I thought in harms way was good

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:21 PM (bXbFr)

112
I had trouble bringing an Otto Preminger movie to mind that I liked.

So, I checked out his filmography. Eh, i guess both "Anatomy of a Murder" and "Laura" were alright.

I guess Ol' Otsy didn't make the kind of movies I was interested in seeing.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 13, 2025 08:21 PM (iJfKG)

113 The sequel they should have made but Hollywood hates us is Dredd.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:22 PM (KDPiq)

114
"We are all Britons. And I am your king."

"Well I didn't vote for you."

Posted by: Don Black at December 13, 2025 08:22 PM (ZxPkt)

115
Advice and consent was not easy to adapt
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:20 PM (bXbFr)


Allen Drury was so disgusted by what happened to his book that he refused to sell the film rights of any of his others.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 08:23 PM (tgvbd)

116 Oh, and yeah, the Martians in the books are way more nekkid than they are in the movie (this is Disney)... both men and women wear nothing but a sort of harness on which they can hang weapons and jewelry.

"And the sight which met my eyes was that of a slender, girlish figure,
similar in every detail to the earthly women of my past life. She did
not see me at first, but just as she was disappearing through the
portal of the building which was to be her prison she turned, and her
eyes met mine. Her face was oval and beautiful in the extreme, her
every feature was finely chiseled and exquisite, her eyes large and
lustrous and her head surmounted by a mass of coal black, waving hair,
caught loosely into a strange yet becoming coiffure. Her skin was of a
light reddish copper color, against which the crimson glow of her
cheeks and the ruby of her beautifully molded lips shone with a
strangely enhancing effect.

She was as destitute of clothes as the green Martians who accompanied
her; indeed, save for her highly wrought ornaments she was entirely
naked, nor could any apparel have enhanced the beauty of her perfect
and symmetrical figure."

-- A Princess of Mars

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:24 PM (IG3/x)

117 The sequel they should have made but Hollywood hates us is Dredd.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:22 PM (KDPiq)

The one with Stallone or the one with Karl Urban?

I like them both.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:24 PM (6ydKt)

118 Also, the guy they had as the loyal lieutenant in Barsoom. Also was in Solomon Kane. I like that actor.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:24 PM (zZu0s)

119 I really liked John Carter. Especially the ending. I can't help it that audiences don't know good movies when they see them.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:24 PM (KDPiq)

120 "Well I didn't vote for you."
Posted by: Don Black at December 13, 2025 08:22 PM (ZxPkt)
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I thought we were an autonomous collective!"

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 08:24 PM (kpS4V)

121 Karl Urban's Dredd is a great movie.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:24 PM (zZu0s)

122 Patrick Willems? I got blocked by Willems after reminding him that he said people shouldn't hate on Stars Wars Ep 8 because it is a 'children's story about space wizards' when he was losing his mind over Ep 9. Good times

Posted by: ILikeEmScurvy at December 13, 2025 08:25 PM (IMskL)

123 Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:24 PM (6ydKt)

Urban.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:25 PM (KDPiq)

124 The sequel they should have made but Hollywood hates us is Dredd.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:22 PM (KDPiq)


I saw that movie twice at the theater, I like it so much. And at popular viewing times.

The first time during it's opening weekend, I was the only one in the theater.
The second time, there was one other person watching the movie.

There's no way that was ever going to get a sequel.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 13, 2025 08:25 PM (iJfKG)

125 Pern would have to be. It's about flying dragons in the sky and dogfighting with them and rape

Fixed it, on Anne McCaffery's behalf

Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:25 PM (gKWVE)

126 The Rocketeer had 1991 Jennifer Connelly.

I mean, it doesn't get much better than that.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:25 PM (6ydKt)

127 Eat My Dust

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 13, 2025 08:26 PM (Mk6+b)

128 I would have liked another Riddick movie but he's too old now.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:26 PM (KDPiq)

129 128 I would have liked another Riddick movie but he's too old now.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:26 PM (KDPiq

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Another one is being made, actually.

Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:27 PM (GBKbO)

130 As for John Carter, I'll always wonder how come it didn't get an anime treatment.
Michael Kogge seems to be about to fill that need.

Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:27 PM (gKWVE)

131 Who else think Stargate and John Carter had a lot of similarities?

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:28 PM (KDPiq)

132 Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:24 PM (6ydKt)

Urban.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:25 PM (KDPiq)

The darker version.
It's good for that.

The campy Stallone version with Diane Lane isn't bad either.

A sequel to Demolition Man would've been nice.
But it seems we're living through it, instead.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:28 PM (6ydKt)

133 61 I don't know it was the medieval setting that killed Narnia, so much as the movie makers. The first was quite good. The 2nd just wasn't; enough worse that I never bothered with the 3rd.
Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 08:04 PM (s0JqF)

I’m surprised Hollywood even attempted it. I’m no Narnia fanboy but how they can make that series with such disdain for its Christian themes I can’t imagine. I think that is why they stopped where they did.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 08:28 PM (4786I)

134 The Rocketeer had 1991 Jennifer Connelly.

I mean, it doesn't get much better than that.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:25 PM (6ydKt)

Joe Johnston was the director. He also did the first Captain America movie. You can see it when you know it. Both are genuine and play it without irony or sarcasm. A rarity these days.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:28 PM (zZu0s)

135 Skip next time you're in San Diego you should visit the ship used (built?) for Master & Commander, it's part of the maritime museum down in the harbor. Actually, I should visit it too. There's a good "making of" video about that movie that discusses the ship and the realism/accuracy of many details. Definitely one of the better movies of recent decades.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2025 08:28 PM (U/Byj)

136
I've got "Excaliber" in 4K on order.

I hope they do a great job with that one. One of my faves.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 13, 2025 08:28 PM (iJfKG)

137 Anyone mention Buckaroo Banzai yet?

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (LHPAg)

138 There was a sequel to Urban's Dredd in the works, with Urban, but apparently it died on the vine.

Posted by: davidt at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (Q+gd/)

139 130 As for John Carter, I'll always wonder how come it didn't get an anime treatment.
Michael Kogge seems to be about to fill that need.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:27 PM (gKWVE)


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The earliest attempt to adapt it was in the 30s, and it would have been animated.

Theater owners convinced the producer to kill it, though. Told them people wouldn't accept something so fanciful.

It would have predated Snow White as the first feature length animated film.

Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (GBKbO)

140 What's that watermelon doing there?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (Mk6+b)

141 Advice and consent was not easy to adapt
Posted by: Miguel cervantes

That book and movie is homophobic!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (L/fGl)

142 It may be an irony (Alanis can correct me) but one reason John Carter flopped is everyone thought it was ripping off Dune, Stargate, Star Wars, and/or Flash Gordon

Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (gKWVE)

143 > Zelazny's Amber books would make a nice series of flicks.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 08:20 PM (q3u5l)

We have the technology to pull those off now, but please let them not be made until the woke mania dies out.

I don't think I could handle a handicapped, retarded, transgendered Corwin of color.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (IG3/x)

144 Another one is being made, actually.
Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:27 PM (GBKbO)

Lot of AI I imagine.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (KDPiq)

145 Speaking of Capra, this week we watched American Madness. Had never seen it, or even heard of it until someone mentioned it on here. I think. Good ol' Capra! YooToob has it to rent or buy, but somebody posted in for free:
https://youtu.be/PHe4AMjkozs

Also watched, last week or so, Jules, a low-key SF, almost fantasy, movie. Ben Kingsley stars as a reclusive old man with slight onset of old-timer's. Satisfying. Don't read about it, don't watch a trailer, just cue it up and watch. YooToob has it to rent or buy, but somebody posted in for free:
https://youtu.be/-CfqCY9V4DQ

Posted by: mindful webworker - film flan at December 13, 2025 08:30 PM (lbDMw)

146 Angel Face (Rating 3/4) Full Review "I think it's solidly good, undone by some late stage choices that grind things to a halt. However, the line on characters, the production itself, and the noirish coat of paint all make Angel Face a compelling drama that Preminger manages well, even if Howard Hughes had hired him to torture Jean Simmons." [Library]

forget where/when I heard this, (perhaps a Mitchum docu?) but Otto had Mitchum slap Jean Simmons, and kept wanting him to do it, over and over. Well, after about 3rd or 4th take, Jean was crying and if IIRC, Otto wanted more takes. Mitchum said, no, no more, and if you keep pushing this, I will get you fired....that was that... I so respect Robert for doing that...

Posted by: zigggggy at December 13, 2025 08:30 PM (/Pwrg)

147 118 Also, the guy they had as the loyal lieutenant in Barsoom. Also was in Solomon Kane. I like that actor.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:24 PM (zZu0s)

Hmmm, Robert E Howard's "Soloman Kane" deserves at least as much attention as his "Conan" books. Kull got a movie, but Soloman was deeper than Conan or Kull.

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 08:30 PM (e/Osv)

148 142 It may be an irony (Alanis can correct me) but one reason John Carter flopped is everyone thought it was ripping off Dune, Stargate, Star Wars, and/or Flash Gordon
Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (gKWVE)

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Disney killed it. Terrible marketing and they didn't lean on critics.

They had bought Marvel and were buying Star Wars. John Carter wasn't necessary on a corporate level anymore.

Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:31 PM (GBKbO)

149 Thx TJM.
John Carter is a fun movie. Never saw that particular Arthurian movie, but anything in the he realm must be compared to Excalibur. Boorman was a very interesting director.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 08:31 PM (D+mpw)

150 Daniel Baldwin took Ben Kingsley to acting school.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 13, 2025 08:31 PM (Mk6+b)

151 Recently watched Odd Thomas. That should have been a franchise . Of course the actor died too soon.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:33 PM (KDPiq)

152 "I don't think I could handle a handicapped, retarded, transgendered Corwin of color."

I'll second that. And that's what we'd probably get from the current crop of geniuses at the studios.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 08:33 PM (q3u5l)

153 rhomboid I didn't know it was in the USA, think it was built in France

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 08:33 PM (Ia/+0)

154 Excalibur fascinated me as a kid.
It was filmed quite beautifully.
The story is timeless.

And a young-ish Patrick Stewart as a knight in one scene.

I think that's the only thing I've seen him in before ST:TNG.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:33 PM (6ydKt)

155 79 Are Bond Films sequels?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 13, 2025 08:10 PM (XV/Pl)

They are not supposed to be.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 08:34 PM (4786I)

156
Speaking of "Dune", I would've loved a David Lynch sequel to his first movie.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 13, 2025 08:34 PM (iJfKG)

157 Watched Stalag 17 again for the first time in decades (on Utoob now). Of its time, but otherwise holds up fairly well. One detail I didn't recall was how Shultz says he was a pro wrestler in Cincinnati before the war. Which was a nice historically accurate allusion to how "German" Cincinnati was.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2025 08:34 PM (U/Byj)

158 What happened to my Dino de Laurentiis sequel to Flash Gordon??

Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:35 PM (gKWVE)

159 I am bereft. The pawn shop quit their sales of DVD's

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 08:35 PM (sDNVV)

160 I've got "Excaliber" in 4K on order.

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First time I ever heard Carl Orff's O Fortuna and I loved it

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 08:35 PM (L/fGl)

161 Pitch Black is one of the best Sci Fi films of the 21st century.

It had proably the best sound design this side of Ghost in The Darkness.

We used to use Pitch Black to demo 5.1 surround sound.

Speaking of sound design, whatever happened to sound design?

Now all we get is loud, louder and Nolan.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 13, 2025 08:35 PM (XV/Pl)

162 I rarely enjoy sequels. I regarded the original three Star Wars films to be one long movie and enjoyed them. Saw the first sequel, the one with Jar Jar Something, and never went back to the franchise. Even the Indiana Jones movies, which were decent, didn't live up to the original film. The best thing about Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade was the interplay of Ford with Sean Connery. The ones that followed Last Crusade were crap. Not bad acting, bad stories.

Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 08:35 PM (yTvNw)

163 The music in Excalibur was used in my fraternity's formal initiation .

Prior to the movie being made.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:36 PM (KDPiq)

164 And I gotta say, I kinda liked River of No Return too.

If memory serves, it used to show up on NBC Saturday Night at the Movies in the 60s. Pretty sure that's where I first saw it.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 08:36 PM (q3u5l)

165 I liked his sherlock holmes wven though it was really just downey being himself with a strong steampunk element

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:36 PM (bXbFr)

166 145 Speaking of Capra, this week we watched American Madness. Had never seen it, or even heard of it until someone mentioned it on here. I think. Good ol' Capra! YooToob has it to rent or buy, but somebody posted in for free:
https://youtu.be/PHe4AMjkozs


Posted by: mindful webworker - film flan at December 13, 2025 08:30 PM (lbDMw)

Oh, indeed, good ol Capra! You can see a few pre- Its a Wonderful life ideas (at the bank, and some other banker saying, your friends won't save you) and a touch of Mr Deeds goes to Town (I believe Walter Huston gives up for a time)

Posted by: zigggggy at December 13, 2025 08:36 PM (/Pwrg)

167 Sequel to Risky Business has to be made!

Posted by: Lex at December 13, 2025 08:36 PM (y4H1r)

168 > I think that's the only thing I've seen him in before ST:TNG.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:33 PM (6ydKt)

The first thing I saw him in was as Macro in I, Claudius back in the '70s (also the first time I saw boobs on TV... apparently the local PBS outlet decided it was British, therefore Art).

I didn't know who he was at the time, of course. I watched the series again years later and had a "I know that guy" moment. Then the penny dropped. Patrick Stewart! With hair!

The series holds up quite well, by the way. Just don't expect a lot of fancy special effects, just some first-rate acting and storytelling.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:37 PM (IG3/x)

169 Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2025 08:34 PM (U/Byj

Should have cut out the Christmas party dance scene. I call BS.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:37 PM (KDPiq)

170 We pretend crystal skull didnt happen in my house

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:37 PM (bXbFr)

171 I read that somehow Big Trouble in Little China took the place of the Buckaroo Bansai sequel.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 08:38 PM (k5cxK)

172 142 It may be an irony (Alanis can correct me) but one reason John Carter flopped is everyone thought it was ripping off Dune, Stargate, Star Wars, and/or Flash Gordon
Posted by: gKWVE



Considering the source material pre-dates all of those, yes. Ironic.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 08:38 PM (rii+a)

173 OK, who wants to see a thread crossover, Perfesser Squirrel and TJM swapping threads? Perfesser does a bit on book-themed movies, and TJM does a bit on books that inspired movies? TJM has to actually talk about the books, though, on Sunday morning, and Perfesser has talk about the movies.

Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 08:38 PM (WMHh6)

174 One sequel I found better than the original is Addams Family Values. I love that one.

My Dad heard the name "Pubert" and he just about died laughing.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 13, 2025 08:39 PM (0aYVJ)

175 There are three Indiana Jones movies and a fourth there shall never be.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 08:39 PM (4786I)

176 Skip don't know where she was built, but apparently 1970, and used for training. Modified to be highly accurate replica of an 18th century Royal Navy 24-gun frigate.

Really would like to see her some time. Maritime museum prices (like so much) are high, and I no longer have workarounds from military museum where I volunteered.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2025 08:39 PM (U/Byj)

177 And I saw and enjoyed "Wicked For Good", which I realize is a tad too gayballz for this crowd.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 08:40 PM (kpS4V)

178 Solomon Kane i have not seen all of it. The effects were... not good, but the acting was not bad.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:40 PM (zZu0s)

179 GWB at 173 --

That could be fun, and I'd bet TJM and the Perfessor could bring it off without even working hard.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 08:40 PM (q3u5l)

180 Finally caught the Dual of Destiny the other night. That movie was a very stupid mess.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 08:40 PM (D+mpw)

181 Bought tickets for a theatrical run (re-run?) of Scrooged on the 16th. Saw it originally in first run theater. That's how it was meant to be seen. Hope there's a good crowd.

There ought to be a Bill Murray calendar. Watch Ghostbusters in October. Watch Scrooged in December. Watch Groundhog Day in February. Watch What About Bob in the Summer. What else?

Still debating whether we want to go to the theater on Christmas Day to see It's a Wonderful Life. Could be fun, even if we do have every frame and sound memorized. (One of my regular prayers, in plaintive Zuzu's voice: "Fix it, Daddy!")

At least the theater is clean, with comfy seats. Theaters could survive and thrive if they just showed old flicks. Anyway, I've thought so for years. Glad to encourage the practice.

Posted by: mindful webworker - flim flum at December 13, 2025 08:40 PM (lbDMw)

182 OK, who wants to see a thread crossover, Perfesser Squirrel and TJM swapping threads? Perfesser does a bit on book-themed movies, and TJM does a bit on books that inspired movies? TJM has to actually talk about the books, though, on Sunday morning, and Perfesser has talk about the movies.
Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 08:38 PM (WMHh6)

Two best book to movies IMO are The Great Santini and Captains Courageous ( even though they changed the ending)

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:41 PM (KDPiq)

183 177 And I saw and enjoyed "Wicked For Good", which I realize is a tad too gayballz for this crowd.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 08:40 PM (kpS4V)

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Dolley and I went and saw it.

Neither of us liked it, but I liked it less.

I was just kind of miserable.

Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:41 PM (GBKbO)

184 The sequel we really need is "Sharknado 7", or whatever number they're up to. That's a story and set of characters that really have a lot of potential left.

Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 08:41 PM (X5Jzz)

185 I think that's the only thing I've seen him in before ST:TNG.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 08:33 PM (6ydKt)

Even younger in I, Claudius as Sejanus. Even has hair.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:42 PM (zZu0s)

186 TJM has to actually talk about the books, though, on Sunday morning, and Perfesser has talk about the movies.
Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 08:38 PM (WMHh6)
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I bet TJM is much more amenable to shorty robes and togas in lieu of pants.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 08:42 PM (kpS4V)

187 Eris, with all the boob talk by the guys I've never figured out why they aren't binge watching Spartacus.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 08:42 PM (sDNVV)

188 > 175 There are three Indiana Jones movies and a fourth there shall never be.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 08:39 PM (4786I)

I pretend that the movie Starship Troopers is a completely separate story that just by coincidence has the same name as a classic Heinlein novel.

They have precious little else in common.

Not even nude Denise Richards in her prime compensates for that steaming pile of shite.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:42 PM (IG3/x)

189 170 We pretend crystal skull didnt happen in my house
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:37 PM (bXbFr)

You know what pissed me of most (out of many choices) in Crystal Skull? Here we have this highly advanced inter dimensional alien race who have been collecting 12,000 years (we are told) of mankind’s greatest artifacts, from every culture, but at the end the aliens just say “aw fukkit we’re outta here” and they smash everything to bits and go home.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 08:42 PM (k5cxK)

190 You must be mistaken thar film doesnt exist

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:42 PM (bXbFr)

191 Watch What About Bob in the Summer. What else?

I think Meatballs would be the summer movie.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:42 PM (KDPiq)

192 Bill Murray's "Meatballs" is perfect for July/August.

Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:42 PM (gKWVE)

193 > Even younger in I, Claudius as Sejanus. Even has hair.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:42 PM (zZu0s)

Yep, you're right. Sejanus, not Macro.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:42 PM (IG3/x)

194 I miss Michael Bay.

The Rock is a great movie.

Armageddon is a good, enjoyable movie.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:43 PM (zZu0s)

195 "The first thing I saw him in was as Macro in I, Claudius back in the '70s"

Actually he played Sejanus. I think Macro was played by John Rhys Davies.

Posted by: Tuna at December 13, 2025 08:43 PM (lJ0H4)

196 Well after they nuked the fridge

A neuralized memory

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:43 PM (bXbFr)

197 way I see it, absolutely. Actually that's part of what I mean by "of its time" - quite a few odd/discordant notes struck, usually related to entertainment, in what is otherwise a "dark" movie. Too many gags and not much dark humor. The character "Animal" is about 25 pounds overweight - very very unlikely by December 1944, and he had been a POW for some time.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 13, 2025 08:43 PM (U/Byj)

198 Sequel to Risky Business has to be made!
Posted by: Lex

At least his heart was in the right place.

OnlyFans model tells @outkick’s @JoeKinseyexp that [former Michigan coach] Sherrone Moore offered her season tickets for a foursome with two other only fans models, DM’ed her during halftime of games.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 08:43 PM (L/fGl)

199 70 I liked John Carter as well , but yes it needed way more boobs.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (k5cxK)


Just to be clear, do you mean more women exposing their boobs, or hot Martian women with more than two boobs?

Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 08:44 PM (X5Jzz)

200 How about lifeforce have done tobe hooper

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:44 PM (bXbFr)

201 Patrick Stewart was in Lynch's Dune too iirc. As Gurney Halleck, although I think that character was better in the miniseries.

Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:44 PM (gKWVE)

202 23 Seriously, if Hollywood was really wholly into girlboss characters at least SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE would have done Anne McCaffery "Dragonriders of Pern", but NOOOOOOOOOO because that series had "normal" M/F relationships where each pair STRENGTHENED each other!

Sorry, real bitter that Dragonriders has never been made into a movie!

-SLV
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (e/Osv)

Anne McCaffery was so against anyone touching her work that fan-sites wouldn't even host fanfiction, for fear of legal action. That annoyed me back when I was of an age when I would seek out fanfiction and fanart. But now....Not only do I understand her animosity, I fully support it.

Let Dragonriders of Pern remain as novels, unblemished by idiots trying to 'adapt' them to meet modern sensibilities and or preach today's beliefs...

Posted by: Castle Guy at December 13, 2025 08:44 PM (Lhaco)

203 Brian Blessed as Augustus.

You have to love that guy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:45 PM (zZu0s)

204 I am reading Leigh Brackett's Skaith series with Eric John Stark. If it had been written in the 30's it would have been a John Carter pastiche, but when it was written it was more of a nod to Tolkien. It is, however, the basic plan for a D&D campaign, with much better prose. It is also the original "grim-dark" adventure with a possibly positive conclusion
It would make a wonderful series.

I also think Bill Adams and Cecil Brooks' completely unknown Ethan Larkspur books, The Unwound Way and The End of Fame could make a blockbuster series, though it would pretty much take James Cameron's effects crew to do the denouement.

And of course, if there ever was a need for a Logan's Run type series with a happier ending, Tanith Lee's Don't Bite the Sun books would be excellent.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 08:45 PM (rbvCR)

205 Didn't Patrick Stewart play Lenin in "Fall of Eagles"? I could look it up, but I'm lazy.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 08:45 PM (kpS4V)

206 >>1 Once again, no Summer School starring Mark Harmon.

Dear Lord, Duke, I saw that on TV in my misspent youth!

Posted by: Nazdar at December 13, 2025 08:46 PM (NcvvS)

207 And re book to movie.

TubiTV has The Last Train, with Jean Louis Trintignant and the merely cosmically lovely Romy Schneider. It's from Simenon's novel The Train, which I've not read in too long. Not a bad adaptation, from my memory of the book, but director/co-screenwriter Pierre Granier-Deferre blew the ending. His ending is probably more audience-pleasing than Simenon's darker finish, though. The flick is definitely worth a watch.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 08:46 PM (q3u5l)

208 but at the end the aliens just say “aw fukkit we’re outta here” and they smash everything to bits and go home.
Posted by: Tom Servo


They watched an episode about the Prime Directive and rearranged their whole society. Thermian out front shoulda toldja.

Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:46 PM (gKWVE)

209 Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (e/Osv)

Damn you reminded me of my most wanted sequel.

Allita : Battle Angel

My favorite girl power movie .

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:46 PM (KDPiq)

210 Sort of movie-adjacent. NPR is butthurt because 1) there were fewer abortions on TV this year and 2) it was sometimes portrayed as a shameful thing.

Because of course they're butthurt. Fucking ghouls.

https://tinyurl.com/ft4jvzpj

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:47 PM (IG3/x)

211 The sequel we really need is "Sharknado 7", or whatever number they're up to. That's a story and set of characters that really have a lot of potential left.

Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 08:41 PM (X5Jzz)

TweakerShark. Because of all the fentanyl now in the Gulf of America waters. Have it blow into Venezuela and wreak havoc the the commies there.

Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 08:47 PM (WMHh6)

212 Didn't Patrick Stewart play Lenin in "Fall of Eagles"? I could look it up, but I'm lazy.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes

He was also Karla in the Alec Guinness "Tinker, Taylor, Soldier, Spy"

Posted by: Tuna at December 13, 2025 08:47 PM (lJ0H4)

213 I like John Carter

"Virginiaaaa!"

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 13, 2025 08:48 PM (gDlxJ)

214 Patrick Stewart did a great Macbeth, in a modern updating of the story.

As did Ian McKellen, in a traditional production.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:48 PM (IG3/x)

215 Spartacus

Is Boobtacus?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 08:48 PM (Kt19C)

216 Yeah that one would probably beva good sequel naybe even prequel fighting on zalem

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:48 PM (bXbFr)

217 True, I was waiting for years for the sequel to Buckaroo Banzai.

I guess it was too far out there and didn't make enough money.


I read that the rights to Buckaroo Banzai and any sequels had been sold multiple times, and these were the full rights, not options. Drugs may have been involved - at least that was my understanding.
The rights to the IP are completely tangled, and may never be resolved.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 08:49 PM (rbvCR)

218 Patrick Stewart was in Lynch's Dune too iirc. As Gurney Halleck, although I think that character was better in the miniseries.
Posted by: gKWVE at December 13, 2025 08:44 PM (gKWVE)

The part 2 of the new Dune made me revert back to liking Lynch's Dune better.

Dune part 1 was fantastic though.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:49 PM (KDPiq)

219
Didn't Patrick Stewart play Lenin in "Fall of Eagles"? I could look it up, but I'm lazy.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 08:45 PM (kpS4V)


Yes

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 08:50 PM (tgvbd)

220 One of the few sequels I enjoyed was the Robert Downy Sherlock Holmes A Game of Shadows. If the third one is EVER made I would probably get the DVD. But it's been so long Holmes and Watson will need canes to get around. Maybe they would investigate a murder at their old age home.

Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 08:50 PM (yTvNw)

221 Evening.

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 08:50 PM (1Yy3c)

222 Caddyshack for spring.

Posted by: GWB at December 13, 2025 08:50 PM (K1PX7)

223 Book to movie? The Quran, done as a dark comedy.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 08:51 PM (Kt19C)

224 The series holds up quite well, by the way. Just don't expect a lot of fancy special effects, just some first-rate acting and storytelling.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 08:37 PM (IG3/x)

I think it still rates as best TV miniseries ever made. The cast was incredible, a list all the way through.
The character that stands out the most to me - and I think to everyone who watches it - is John Hurt’s Caligula. This is when I first realized that Hurt was a truly great actor; several versions of Caligula have appeared over the years, but Hurt’s portrayal is do skilled, and so compelling that you can never think of that character any other way. He made it his own.
In a similar way, I think the same about Peter Ustinov’s Nero.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 08:51 PM (k5cxK)

225 220 One of the few sequels I enjoyed was the Robert Downy Sherlock Holmes A Game of Shadows. If the third one is EVER made I would probably get the DVD. But it's been so long Holmes and Watson will need canes to get around. Maybe they would investigate a murder at their old age home.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 08:50 PM (yTvNw)

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I suspect all hope has been given up for a third one.

A prequel series for Prime was announced in the last couple of weeks.

Downey Jr. Is just too expensive.

Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 08:51 PM (GBKbO)

226 I actively hated the trailers for that King Arthur movie, because it seemed the epitome of the 'wear a franchise name as a skin-suit' trope. It didn't look remotely Arthurian, it didn't look remotely Brittish... It looked like it was cut from the same cloth that D+ Willow, Netflix Witcher, or Amazon Wheel of Time, and Amazon Rings of Power would later be cut from.

You want to make a fantasy movie/tv show like that, fine. I've watched a few of them. (The Outpost was from that cloth, the Mythica movies were actually better than that cloth, and Curse of the Dragonslayer was better than anything else in the past decade) But for that, you have to sell your work on its own merits. Not by hijacking some other franchise that I already like.

Posted by: Castle Guy at December 13, 2025 08:51 PM (Lhaco)

227 223 Book to movie? The Quran, done as a dark comedy.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats


Careful. Might put an eye out.

Posted by: Salman at December 13, 2025 08:52 PM (gKWVE)

228 I just recently binged watched all 10 episodes of Shogun . I commented that it just confirmed my dislike of the Bushido code and a number of other Japanese cultural traditions that still exist.

On that note I also just watched Mr Baseball again with Tom Selleck. Held up great.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:55 PM (KDPiq)

229 Yeah i dont think it can work without downey though

And cumberbatchs sherlock is just a sociopath

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:55 PM (bXbFr)

230 I'm back home and the FYE at the mall is being liquidated. I picked up some movies for super fucking cheap.

A Star Is Born (Gaga/Cooper)
Apollo 13 (steelbook)
Bad Boys
Elizabeth/Elizabeth:The Golden Age
Exodus: Gods and Kings
Moana
Saving Mr. Banks
Thor: The Dark World

Rush Hour 2 (DVD)
The Hound Of The Baskervilles/Pursuit To Algiers (DVD)

Mind you, except for Apollo 13 and Bad Boys they're all used. $32 bucks for everything,

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 08:55 PM (1Yy3c)

231 World of Warcraft. The ending sets up the sequel's whole story arc.

Why has no one tried Mary Stewart's approach to the Arthurian legend? The Crystal Cave and The Hollow Hills are solid stories.

Posted by: Galt at December 13, 2025 08:55 PM (9UnaD)

232 167 Sequel to Risky Business has to be made!

Posted by: Lex at December 13, 2025 08:36 PM (y4H1r)
I don't know...Rebecca De Mornay 42 years later, might not look quite as hot now....

Posted by: zigggggy at December 13, 2025 08:56 PM (/Pwrg)

233 Watching Crown of Shadows on prime
So bad
AI slop
But there are dragons

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 13, 2025 08:56 PM (dE3DB)

234 I don't think it is too early to talk about the body of work that Taylor Sheridan is producing.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 08:56 PM (sDNVV)

235 I didn't realize how many Guy Ritchie movies I really liked.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:57 PM (KDPiq)

236 I just recently binged watched all 10 episodes of Shogun . I commented that it just confirmed my dislike of the Bushido code and a number of other Japanese cultural traditions that still exist.

On that note I also just watched Mr Baseball again with Tom Selleck. Held up great.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:55 PM (KDPiq)

If you liked the remake you should watch the original. It's even better. The remake focuses more on the Japanese stuff but the original focuses mostly on the white guy. You won't feel like it's repetitious.

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 08:57 PM (1Yy3c)

237 What's that watermelon doing there?
Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 13, 2025 08:29 PM (Mk6+b)


In the book it was noted to be part of a project to make watermelons unbreakable. It was never discussed why.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 08:57 PM (rbvCR)

238 Stewarts really chewing the scenery in lifeforce

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at December 13, 2025 08:57 PM (bXbFr)

239 Always wanted a sequel to the 1999 film "Office Space."

[Never watched either the British or US TV series of the same name.]

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 13, 2025 08:58 PM (YmZuj)

240 Wondered when TJM will get to Kurosawa movies, should dress up as a Samurai

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 08:59 PM (Ia/+0)

241 The character that stands out the most to me - and I think to everyone who watches it - is John Hurt’s Caligula.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 08:51 PM (k5cxK)

Oh, yeah. Definitely. To shine that brightly among THAT cast is a formidable challenge, and yet he pulled it off.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 09:00 PM (IG3/x)

242 240 Wondered when TJM will get to Kurosawa movies, should dress up as a Samurai
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 08:59 PM (Ia/+0)

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Gohan kudesai.

Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 09:00 PM (GBKbO)

243 Oh, TJM, I was mentions to the Horde the other day you need a sign off on your videos. Ex. Jerome Weiselberry, who is female, waves and says a high pitched squeaky "Bye!" You need something like that, but manlier. Maybe like "DYNOMIIIIIIIIITE!"

Also I loved your Christmas suit.

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 09:00 PM (1Yy3c)

244 Haven't seen much of Taylor Sheridan's stuff except for Hell or High Water, which was way nifty; that closing scene between Jeff Bridges and Chris Pine alone is worth five times the price of admission.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 09:00 PM (q3u5l)

245 John Carter pissed me off. first, it should have been called John Carter of Mars. I understand that Princess of Mars may have implied a girly-movie to certain audiences, but you needed to at least highlight the sci-fi factor. Just calling it John Carter is...bland.

Second, this movie miss a golden opportunity for some truly subversive messaging! The Green Martians have a messed up society that produces a lot of evil people. But there was one Martain who was genuinely good hearted; Sola. And what made her good? She had parents. Not even overly sentimental parents, just parents that acknowledged her and cared for her. And that was all it took to create empathy in a society of psychopaths. That....would have been a truly inspiring message...

Posted by: Castle Guy at December 13, 2025 09:00 PM (Lhaco)

246 243 Oh, TJM, I was mentions to the Horde the other day you need a sign off on your videos. Ex. Jerome Weiselberry, who is female, waves and says a high pitched squeaky "Bye!" You need something like that, but manlier. Maybe like "DYNOMIIIIIIIIITE!"

Also I loved your Christmas suit.
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 09:00 PMdudes ain't.

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I definitely need something. They just stop now.

I like the suit, too!

Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 09:01 PM (GBKbO)

247 223 Book to movie? The Quran, done as a dark comedy.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 08:51 PM (Kt19C)



Coming to a theater near you : Monty Python's "Life of Achmed".

Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 09:01 PM (X5Jzz)

248 232...true, but I like that all the principal actors are still alive and you could do something interesting. Lana probably became successful at something. Guido is still slumming it. All of Joel's friends could reappear. I like to think Joel became exactly what his parents were and never did say f it and make his move.

Didn't Stewart have a minor part in Excalibur too?

Posted by: Lex at December 13, 2025 09:01 PM (y4H1r)

249 Oh, before I forget to mention, I was at Walmart and saw...

You know what I saw?

Tom Hanks coffee.

Let that sink in.

Tom Hanks coffee.

Start off your day with a strong cup of Tom Hanks in your mouth.

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 09:02 PM (1Yy3c)

250 239 Always wanted a sequel to the 1999 film "Office Space."

[Never watched either the British or US TV series of the same name.]
Posted by: ShainS



'The Office' and 'Office Space' were two different things. I'm not aware of a British version of the movie 'Office Space', which was a Mike Judge flick (and one of my favorites).

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 09:02 PM (rii+a)

251 In the future, Sheridan will be remembered as one of the greats of our time.

Plus he's strong-willed enough that he regularly manages to get non-woke material past the Hollywood screechbots.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 09:03 PM (IG3/x)

252 John Carter pissed me off. first, it should have been called John Carter of Mars. I understand that Princess of Mars may have implied a girly-movie to certain audiences, but you needed to at least highlight the sci-fi factor. Just calling it John Carter is...bland.

Posted by: Castle Guy at December 13, 2025 09:00 PM (Lhaco)
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Yeah, I thought the same thing. Just adding "of Mars" would have added some important context to the title.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 09:04 PM (ESVrU)

253 Office Space', which was a Mike Judge flick (and one of my favorites).
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 09:02 PM (rii+a)

The new King of the Hill season was really good. Made me want a lot more. The story line is just how I imagined it .

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 09:04 PM (KDPiq)

254 Two best book to movies IMO are The Great Santini and Captains Courageous ( even though they changed the ending)
Posted by: the way I see it
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Interesting choices. For personal reasons, I'm not a fan of Conroy, but still a good choice.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2025 09:04 PM (XeU6L)

255 252 ----
Yeah, I thought the same thing. Just adding "of Mars" would have added some important context to the title.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 09:04 PM (ESVrU

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Mars Needs Moms bombed, so Disney got scared of the Mars in the title, removing it, though the art is all JCM anyway, and it says John Carter of Mars at the end.

And adding the Mars would have done nothing for its box office.

Posted by: TJM's phone at December 13, 2025 09:05 PM (GBKbO)

256 Probably some people thought the movie was about the Noah Wyle character from ER.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 09:05 PM (IG3/x)

257 Taylor Sheridan: I just couldn't get into 'Yellowstone'. I couldn't overcome my general loathing of Beth Dutton. Horrible character. On the other hand, I think Sheridan was behind 'Longmire' which was very good. Enjoyed that one a lot.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 09:06 PM (rii+a)

258 Interesting choices. For personal reasons, I'm not a fan of Conroy, but still a good choice.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2025 09:04 PM (XeU6L)

I chose those two because I read the books of course and the movies didn't piss me off with how they told the story and the casting.was great.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 09:07 PM (KDPiq)

259 Office Space is a delight if only for the printer scene (and who hasn't wanted to do that to a printer?). It's a movie that you should probably definitely watch if you work in IT; of course, it's also a movie that maybe you probably shouldn't watch if you work in IT.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 09:07 PM (q3u5l)

260 239 Always wanted a sequel to the 1999 film "Office Space."


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The IT Crowd Brit Com is quite funny

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 13, 2025 09:07 PM (dE3DB)

261 243 Oh, TJM, I was mentions to the Horde the other day you need a sign off on your videos. Ex. Jerome Weiselberry, who is female, waves and says a high pitched squeaky "Bye!" You need something like that, but manlier. Maybe like "DYNOMIIIIIIIIITE!"

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 09:00 PM (1Yy3c)

wow, somebody knows of her!!!! I feel shame for finding her kinda cute...cannot figure out her age...been doing videos for a decade or so....and her camera is like 20 years old...

Posted by: zigggggy at December 13, 2025 09:07 PM (/Pwrg)

262 > I couldn't overcome my general loathing of Beth Dutton. Horrible character.

Sheridan's one weakness (and it is a SERIOUS weakness) is that he just HAS to have an obnoxious blonde woman in every show. Sometimes more than one (e.g., Landman, an otherwise outstanding show).

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 09:09 PM (IG3/x)

263 'Wind River' was also a Taylor Sheridan flick (I think) and I really enjoyed that movie.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 09:09 PM (rii+a)

264 While not actual sequels, films that follow because of the original's success are usually terrible. Like the first three Star Wars movies, the three LOTR film are basically one movie. Everything that followed has been mostly disappointing. The Hobbit trilogy has some of the elements the worked for LOTR but the writers got too cute with the script and stretched it out way too long. That Helm Hammerhead animation just became another girl power thing. The Amazon Rings of Power fiasco should have been buried along with the careers of the entire production staff before a frame was filmed.

I can only hope these follow-ons led folks to read the books.

Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 09:10 PM (yTvNw)

265 Speaking of John Carter they have never made a good Tarzan movie imo. My second favorite book as a kid.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 09:11 PM (KDPiq)

266 you need a sign off on your videos.

TJM steps around a corner into view, dressed in a bathrobe. "Are you still here? The video's over. Go home."

Posted by: mindful webworker - TJM's Day Off at December 13, 2025 09:11 PM (lbDMw)

267 Taylor Sheridan- I like Tulsa King - it's quite ridiculous and Stallone is having so much fun hamming it uo.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 13, 2025 09:11 PM (gDlxJ)

268 I'm confused, are you talking about The Office, Office Space, or Space 1999?

Actually a mashup of all 3 would be great.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at December 13, 2025 09:12 PM (Mk6+b)

269 I think Mike Judge worked in IT though I think he has a degree in Mathematics iirc.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 09:13 PM (KDPiq)

270 263 'Wind River' was also a Taylor Sheridan flick (I think) and I really enjoyed that movie.
Posted by: Puddleglum

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I quite liked Wind River.
Reminds me of Longmire which then reminds me of Dark Winds.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 13, 2025 09:14 PM (gDlxJ)

271 Was napping this afternoon but still way past my bedtime
Don't eat too much popcorn
And have a good night everyone

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 09:15 PM (Ia/+0)

272 Sorry. The intertubes says Judge's degree is a BS in Physics.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 09:15 PM (KDPiq)

273 Hobbit trilogy has some of the elements the worked for LOTR but the writers got too cute with the script and stretched it out way too long

I quit watching the Hobbit movies the moment I saw Doctor Who as Radagast, riding a sleigh drawn by giant bunnies. Nope nope noppeity nope.

Look for the Hobbit Tolkien Edit someone did. Much better.

Posted by: mindful webworker - in a hole in the ground there lived a sequel at December 13, 2025 09:15 PM (lbDMw)

274 Hell or High Water was a hidden gem that I found in the Walmart DVD bin for 5 bucks.

I got it because I like jeff Bridges and Chris Pine, and I really like Ben Foster.

Great fucking movie.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 13, 2025 09:16 PM (0aYVJ)

275 wow, somebody knows of her!!!! I feel shame for finding her kinda cute...cannot figure out her age...been doing videos for a decade or so....and her camera is like 20 years old...
Posted by: zigggggy at December 13, 2025 09:07 PM (/Pwrg)

You should feel deeply ashamed for finding her kinda cute. For starters, she's SUPER cute. Also..*doing his best seagull impression*...MINE!

Anywho, my guess is she's mid to late 30s. That gray streak in her hair makes her look...mmmmmmmmm...

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 09:18 PM (1Yy3c)

276 I can't believe no one has mentioned:

Joker: Folie à Deux (2024)

It was sooooooo bad, purely unnecessary, in the incorrect format, and did nothing to enhance the first film. It was sooooooo bad that there was talk that the Director and primary actor did it as a F*ck You to people who enjoyed the first one.

Posted by: Orson at December 13, 2025 09:18 PM (dIske)

277 I can only hope these follow-ons led folks to read the books.
Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 09:10 PM (yTvNw)

Long time Tolkien fan here, and I completely agree with you as to the quality of the various things that have been tried.
What killed “the Hobbit” for me was that idiotic elf dwarf romance. Gag.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 09:19 PM (k5cxK)

278 You know what, there was a remastered Blu-ray edition of the theatrical version of theLOTR trilogy. I didn't get it and I'm wondering if I should go back tomorrow and grab it. I don't have the theatrical versions.

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 09:20 PM (1Yy3c)

279 TJM convinced me to rent the Guy Ritchie movie, about King Arthur.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 13, 2025 09:20 PM (ytIvj)

280 I quit watching the Hobbit movies the moment I saw Doctor Who as Radagast, riding a sleigh drawn by giant bunnies. Nope nope noppeity nope.
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This is the kind of thing one ought to see while tripping on pure Sandoz, not in a big-budget movie based on Tolkien.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 09:20 PM (kpS4V)

281 have an obnoxious blonde woman "

Redhead... but ok.

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 09:22 PM (XuXeR)

282 Oh boy! Just saw in the NY Post that Amy Schumer is splitting from her husband. She's available and skinny.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 09:25 PM (D+mpw)

283 Love everything about Excalibur. Love the actors/actresses (though the dude playing Arthur was a bit of a plank), love the music (whoever thought of using Wagner was a genius), love the sets (that final battle between Arthur and Mordred, with the blood-red sun setting in the sea, was incredible). Boorman's direction was decent.

I didn't know about the new(er) movie. Will be watching.

Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at December 13, 2025 09:26 PM (E66lT)

284 Someone up thread mentioned Captains Courageous. The 1937 version is the only film where I actually like Spencer Tracy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 09:26 PM (k5cxK)

285 I always wanted a sequel to "The Once And Future King".

"Now, the problem is, how to divide five Afghans from three mules and have two Englishmen left over."

Posted by: Peachy Carnehan at December 13, 2025 09:31 PM (R/m4+)

286 I just want a big budget story accurate Gor film. Rated R with the T&A intact.

I would have really liked a Speed Racer sequel too.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 13, 2025 09:32 PM (Vh9CX)

287 282 Oh boy! Just saw in the NY Post that Amy Schumer is splitting from her husband. She's available and skinny.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 09:25 PM (D+mpw)



. . . and still bugshit crazy. Remember Rule #1.

Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 09:33 PM (X5Jzz)

288 I'm watching Along Came Polly right now. In my top five RomCom movies.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 09:33 PM (KDPiq)

289 You mean "The Man Who Would Be King?"

Play polo withDravit's head?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 09:34 PM (kpS4V)

290 252
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Yeah, I thought the same thing. Just adding "of Mars" would have added some important context to the title.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 09:04 PM (ESVrU)

Even though they removed 'of Mars' from the title, the movie's logo was still a (very stylized) JCM. Not only was it pig-headed executive interference, it was lazy and incomplete executive interference...

Posted by: Castle Guy at December 13, 2025 09:34 PM (Lhaco)

291 Great scene from Excalibur...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAIeh0YarFs

Posted by: Lex at December 13, 2025 09:35 PM (y4H1r)

292 You mean "The Man Who Would Be King?"

Play polo withDravit's head?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 09:34 PM (kpS4V)

Oops...Yes. That's it. Thanks! Must have had King Arthur on the brain.

Posted by: Peachy Carnehan at December 13, 2025 09:36 PM (R/m4+)

293 The sequel we really need:
It's a Miserable Afterlife by Tim Burton
Clarence didn't get his wings after all.

Posted by: mindful webworker - the original at December 13, 2025 09:37 PM (lbDMw)

294 ***But mass audiences don't seem all that keen on it.
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One Million Years B.C. had a budget of approximately $1.2 million and grossed around $8 million at the box office. This significant return marked it as a financial success, yielding a profit that far exceeded its production costs.

Deathstalker (1983) made on a budget of $457,000, $11.9 million worldwide at the box offic
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Although, pre medeval the solution is obvious.
The problem with medieval fantasy films is too much development and not enough nekked.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 09:37 PM (ONKca)

295 Benedetta, thought you said Beretta. I was looking for the parrot.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 09:40 PM (ONKca)

296 233 ‘Book to movie? The Quran, done as a dark comedy.’

Which would be funnier? The movie or the unending string of terrorist attacks which would follow it?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 09:42 PM (fd80v)

297 This is the kind of thing one ought to see while tripping on pure Sandoz, not in a big-budget movie based on Tolkien.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 09:20 PM (kpS4V)

LOL! Exactly right!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 09:43 PM (k5cxK)

298 And this kid's outta here for the evening.

TJM, thanks for the thread.

Have a good one, gang.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at December 13, 2025 09:46 PM (q3u5l)

299 I like John Carter of Mars and the Barsoom novels (I've read the first six so far). But my understanding is that most fans of the novels hate the movie.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 13, 2025 09:47 PM (mFz+I)

300 277
‘ What killed “the Hobbit” for me was that idiotic elf dwarf romance. Gag.’

How did Tolkien ever write something like that?
I’m surprised he didn’t go to jail.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 09:48 PM (fd80v)

301 I recorded the Army-Navy Game and just finished it. Close game!

And so...SUCK IT BIG GREEN! Ha!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 09:49 PM (kpS4V)

302 296 233 ‘Book to movie? The Quran, done as a dark comedy.’

Which would be funnier? The movie or the unending string of terrorist attacks which would follow it?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 09:42 PM (fd80v)

Spoiler: The unending string of terrorist attacks happen regardless.

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 09:50 PM (1Yy3c)

303 Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 09:06 PM (rii+a)

Dude...Beth Dutton has a stupendous rack. Why are you paying attention to her character?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2025 09:50 PM (n9ltV)

304 285

‘Now, the problem is, how to divide five Afghans from three mules and have two Englishmen left over."


I have heard that it’s difficult indeed to divide Afghans from mules.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 09:50 PM (fd80v)

305 300 277
‘ What killed “the Hobbit” for me was that idiotic elf dwarf romance. Gag.’

How did Tolkien ever write something like that?
I’m surprised he didn’t go to jail.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 09:48 PM (fd80v)

He didn't write that.
You can read the Hobbit in less time than it takes to watch the movie.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at December 13, 2025 09:52 PM (xcxpd)

306 > I have heard that it’s difficult indeed to divide Afghans from mules.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 09:50 PM (fd80v)

Usually it's goats. I think mules qualify you as transgender under Afghan law.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 13, 2025 09:55 PM (IG3/x)

307 305 300 277
‘ What killed “the Hobbit” for me was that idiotic elf dwarf romance. Gag.’

How did Tolkien ever write something like that?
I’m surprised he didn’t go to jail.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 09:48 PM (fd80v)

He didn't write that.
You can read the Hobbit in less time than it takes to watch the movie.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo



Yea, the book doesn't take long to read. Jackson could have just followed the book, for the most part, made one movie, and it would have worked fine, but nah.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 09:56 PM (rii+a)

308 305
‘ He didn't write that’

I figured it was some Hollywood bullcrap.

‘You can read the Hobbit in less time than it takes to watch the movie.’

I burnt up the better part of a flight back from Europe watching it.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 09:56 PM (fd80v)

309 How did Tolkien ever write something like that?
I’m surprised he didn’t go to jail.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 09:48 PM (fd80v)
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He. Did. NOT!!!

basically the story was bent over a pinball machine and sodomized by shit stains hellbent on wrecking all the things.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 13, 2025 09:58 PM (0aYVJ)

310 I got to see a Q&A about storytelling back in my Sundance Film Fest era, and Stanton was one of the panelists. He's clearly brilliant, and incredibly passionate about stories. Maybe he should have started with a smaller live action movie before taking on this project. The sequels sound like they would have had cool plots!

I still don't get why films like this fail, and Avatar makes a billion with every movie. It boggles my understanding. The only thing I can think of is James Cameron understands showmanship, and how to sell a story in buzz and marketing before it hits theaters.

Maybe if it had been titled "Princess of Mars," it would have sold it better in the marketing?

Treasure Planet is another one that was so brilliant in what it did, for boy's adventure and making a pirate story sci-if, but then bombed so bad.

Boys need adventure films, and action, and princesses to save in another castle, and heroes to emulate. Hopefully that vacuum gets filled with positive stories at some point. A new Star Wars, a new indie jones. The directors Spielberg and Lucas mentored never really took up that baton.

Posted by: LizLem at December 13, 2025 10:00 PM (gWBY1)

311 199 70 I liked John Carter as well , but yes it needed way more boobs.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (k5cxK)

Just to be clear, do you mean more women exposing their boobs, or hot Martian women with more than two boobs?

Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 08:44 PM (X5Jzz)

yes

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at December 13, 2025 10:01 PM (xcxpd)

312 Movie's over. ONT club is open. Bring your party hat.
https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=417643

Posted by: mindful webworker - in Santa hat at December 13, 2025 10:01 PM (lbDMw)

313 309
‘ How did Tolkien ever write something like that?
I’m surprised he didn’t go to jail.
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He. Did. NOT!!!

basically the story was bent over a pinball machine and sodomized by shit stains hellbent on wrecking all the things.’

This was the response I was expecting. LOL.
Tolkien had too much self respect to put something this ridiculous in his stories.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 10:02 PM (fd80v)

314 194 I miss Michael Bay.

The Rock is a great movie.

Armageddon is a good, enjoyable movie.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:43 PM (zZu0s)

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He should've gotten an Oscar for direction for the first Transformers movie. That movie is extremely well paced and expertly handles multiple story threads, better than Peter Jackson did in LOTR. I'm not even a big Bay fanboy buy I'll give credit to where credit is due.

Both Bay produced TMNT movies are great too. The first better than the second, but the opening of the second is absolutely epic.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 13, 2025 10:04 PM (Vh9CX)

315 Yea, the book doesn't take long to read. Jackson could have just followed the book, for the most part, made one movie, and it would have worked fine, but nah.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 09:56 PM (rii+a)

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It was a studio greed thing, they first required a two parter then doubled down on their greed and demanded a trilogy. Del Toro then quit and Jackson had to go back into the director's chair.

That is what I recall.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 13, 2025 10:07 PM (Vh9CX)

316 My hot take on the Hobbit movies: Everything about Tauriel is fanfiction. However, it is very well-written fanfiction! The self-insert character is super-competent, but still has a valid reason for feeling oppressed; she has reached the limit of her career advancement. Her king is not unkind, but still dismissive of her. The chemistry between her and Kili is natural; he's a landless and poor (despite being a prince) and he's starstruck by her beauty and her homeland. She yearns to see the world beyond her forest, and he's a charming guy who' seen all the things she dreams about...It's got everything you could ask for in a fanfic!

Unfortunately, THIS ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE FANFICTION! This is supposed to be an adaptation of The Hobbit! We only get these movies once in a generation, and you just ruined our generation's chance!

Yet another movie ruined by studio demands. If they had just waited a few years, and let Peter Jackson finish a script before filming, and not force the project into an unnecessary trilogy... There were good moments in those movies, but a lot of unnecessary nonsense, as well.

Posted by: Castle Guy at December 13, 2025 10:15 PM (Lhaco)

317 Count me as a fan of "John Carter". Good script, good acting, excellent special effects. Its failure, though, came in part from having a lead who was handsome and athletic, but lacking leading-man charisma; and in part due to dreadful marketing. (It amazes me that the word "Mars" appeared nowhere.) It was fun, though, to see Ciaran Hinds and James Purefoy from "Rome" wearing kilts and swords again. Also, pulling ERB himself into the story at the end was a nice touch.

Posted by: Nemo at December 13, 2025 10:19 PM (4RPgu)

318 >>> 233 ‘Book to movie? The Quran, done as a dark comedy.’

You know, that's an intriguing point. Stories from the Bible have been made and remade. Shakespeare and Austen have been redone so many ways; some of my faves where the teen romcoms I grew up on in the 90s.

Are there any beloved stories from the Quran that have blended into the fabric of literature? Been made into actual good films? Remade into a modern story? Or is the cult of Islam so strong that those stories can't be shared to the larger culture?

Posted by: LizLem at December 14, 2025 01:43 AM (gWBY1)

319 >>> It's got everything you could ask for in a fanfic!
Unfortunately, THIS ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE FANFICTION!

Most of these fantasy shows and movies are fanfic of beloved properties. Had they simply made them brand new worlds, no one would care! It's that they bastardized beloved franchises instead of making their own new fantasy worlds and doing whatever they want there.

I like Tauriel. I'd adore this storyline with her and the dwarf if it was in a D&D style movie. But they put it in the hobbit.

Posted by: LizLem at December 14, 2025 02:51 AM (gWBY1)

Hobby Thread - December 13, 2025 [Tannenbaum Rex]

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Welcome hobbyists! Pull up a chair and sit a spell with the Horde in this little corner of the interweb. This is the mighty, mighty officially sanctioned Ace of Spades Hobby Thread. As previewed, the Ace of Spades Wheel of Hobbies (TM) landed on Christmas Ornaments.

Last week, the call went out for Horde Christmas ornament submissions. Are you thinking "I'm a grinch that did not submit an ornament, but I am eager to see what others submitted. I can't wait to get into the content!" I knew it. Enjoy.

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What are you hobbying?

As per usual Hobby Thread etiquette, keep this thread limited to hobbying. All (legal) hobbying is welcome. However, politics, current events and religious debates can live in threads elsewhere. Pants are optional. Puns are welcome and encouraged.

Play nice. Don't be a troll and do not feed the trolls.

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Christmas ornaments are more than plastic, wood, metal or glass. They may have aesthetic value but usually they are important and valued because of their origin story. Could be a special person or relative that gifted it. Could be someone that made it. Could be a treasure from travels or a family tradition. Could be the age and previous owners. Ornaments often have value because of their meaning.

Thanks much to the Horde who submitted treasures of their own. Enjoy their stories and share some of your own.

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From "Perfessor" Squirrel:

When I lived in Germany as a teenager, my parents would take us kids to the Christkindlmarkt in Bayreuth. They'd buy us each a Christmas ornament for the tree. I always wanted a giant nutcracker, but I had to make do with this little guy. He's standing on the box of the rest of my ornaments.

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Unfortunate feline follow-up:

I foolishly forgot to put the Christmas ornament back in the box after I snapped a picture of it.

This morning, I discovered that the ornament had been knocked off the box onto the floor of my dining area and had broken in two. Unfortunately, I can only find the top half. If I can ever find the bottom half, there's a good chance I can glue it back together. I'm afraid the bottom half has been batted around so much it's disappeared into the void (like the countless ping pong balls I have scattered in my house).

This right here is why I don't ever have a Christmas tree.

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From JQ:

Our neighbor has a laser-cutting device and made these 3 snowflake ornaments for us last year. Pretty cool! Just slide the pieces together for 3-D effect.

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The wooden ones were a farm-store find. They looked handmade at first glance, but alas, I fear they were merely assembled by hand after mass-production of the parts. Probably printed on the thin wood and die-cut, then glued together. Still, they are so cute that I bought 2 of each plus extra cows and sheep.

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From ARiK:

The folded stars in the box were made by me in Cub Scouts around 1968. The Snoopy was re-purposed from a model kit about the same time and the glass clam shells and house are survivors from my parents collection and were old in 1968.

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The two Hallmark "Beagle Scout" ornaments are near and dear to my heart as an Eagle Scout and Eagle Scout dad and former adult leader.

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From Diogenes:

Mrs D purchased this when we were stationed in Germany (long ago) in Rothenburg au der Tauber. The store is called Katie Wolfharts. Known for their Christmas stuff. We have a bunch of their ornaments but this silly little thing just appeals to me.

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From Victor Tango Kilo:

We buy an ornament to commemorate every year. 2021 was the year Bravo and Charlie were born.

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From wcgreen:

My grandmother, crocheted this tree skirt when I married in 1978.  We’ve placed it under our tree every year since then.  The wooden tree was made by a local woodworker; it's the newest addition to my Christmas tree forest and it's keeping the skirt on the table for its photo.

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I made the ornaments from a pattern in McCall's Needlework magazine in the mid-1980s.  They are the first ornaments hung on our tree each year.

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From scampydog:

The cat is is scampywife's ornament from 1975, from Santa. She has one from 1978 and 1981 also. Kind of fun.

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Collage: Our tradition... kids/parents each get a new ornament every year. Often tied to what is going on in life. Kids events, sports, hobbies, new job, etc., will be the ornament theme. Ma and Pa, we get things that fit our personality quirks.

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From Doof:

One of my favorite ornaments. Flintstones set from the 70s. We had a set of four. I have two and my sister has two.

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From Gratetful:

The best Hallmark ornaments were from the 1980s. This is one of them (with two sides). They were simple, heartfelt and cherished every year I put them on the tree.

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From Teresa in Fort Worth:

I made these to give as gifts to friends and family in 1996 - a "bell" made from a tiny terra cotta pot that I decorated. Got the idea from something I saw in a magazine that year.

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This is a drum ornament that I made in second grade. It was a class project - each of us made one (using an empty wooden spool, some batting, a piece of fabric, and some glitter) to give to our parents to put on the tree that Christmas. My Mom put that on the tree every year, and when I set up my own house, she gave it to me to put on my Christmas tree. Our poor kids have had to hear that silly story every year when the tree gets put up.

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From Stephen Price Blair:

I'm all-in on celebrating the semiquincentennial, having started in 2023 with a series of posts on bicentennial cookbooks, then centennial cookbooks in 2024, and, this year, starting the 250th early with Samuel Young's speech on the 42nd anniversary (the meaning of life!) of the Battle of Bennington.

"All nations, from time immemorial, have had their days of commemoration. These days have marked the character of the nation itself. Among the Pagan nations they commemorate the birth day of some supposed God or Goddess. In Monarchies they commemorate the birthday of some favorite Prince or Princess. In Aristocracies they commemorate the birth day of some splendid Nobleman. But in the United States of America we commemorate the birth day of our Liberties."

So when I saw the Melania Trump 250th collection, I decided to take a chance on the star, which looked very elegant in the site's photos. It just arrived a few weeks ago, and I'm very happy with it. But I was even more pleasantly surprised - though I probably shouldn't have been surprised - to see "Made in the USA" on the side.

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From tcn in AK:

My fav is the photo ornament with a picture of my son age 2-1/2 years in his Halloween costume as a tiger.

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The other one is a gorgeous Alaska ornament from The Kobuk Shop which is a historical little treasure located in the oldest building in Anchorage, also known by its original name "Kimball's Dry Goods." Every ornament on my tree is distinct. Some would say it's chaotic.

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From tRustyHudson:

The sound of Christmas in our house, a "Light and Magic" Hallmark ornament from 1989. Kringles Workshop. Plugs into your string of lights and the little elves saw and hammer, and the little gears whir and clack. We had that on our tree since I was 8. The original finally stopped working shortly before I married my wife, and damned if I didn't find another one for our first tree. And when that one gave up the ghost my wife bought another for me. I'm sure when this one goes we'll find another. Wouldn't be Christmas without this clacking in the background.

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The following are the nice brass carburetor floats that I hang on our tree : 2 Carter (a WDG and WD-O) floats from Hudsons and a Rochester Q-Jet float from a old GM I can't recall. They're shiny brass.

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Editor note: space constraints allowed only one of the carburetor float ornaments, but I don't know which one is pictured.

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From JuJuBee:

I bought this Hallmark ornament two months ago but it's already my all-time favorite. I didn't even put it on the tree. It's on my nightstand so I can see it frequently, and it's staying there all year.

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From Shelf of Monkeys:

Coming straight out of the early 70s and my childhood is my treasured paper mache blue cow that was given to me by my mother. The "flower power" decoration provides the finishing touch. She always is prominently displayed at eye level.

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From Tankascribe:

The first year we were married my husband and I invited our parents over to our place for Thanksgiving. I made my first turkey; my MIL asked for the turkey carcass to take home, from which she made luscious turkey noodle soup. Come Christmas, she presented me with the intact wishbone from my first turkey, spray-painted gold, covered with green fuzz and tied up with red yarn to be used as a Christmas tree ornament. That was 45 years ago and one leg of the wishbone has broken off, but it's still my favorite!

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From Margsnow:

These are two ornaments I made. They were inspired by ornaments I saw on Pinterest.

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From Lirio100:

This fish is a very sentimental favorite, the poor thing is pretty time worn. It was on my grandmother's tree when she was a child, in the early 1900's. I suspect it's even older since her family was originally from Germany and might have either brought it or have it sent. It's about five inches from mouth to tail tip, made of blown glass. The original red coloring can just be seen, while the silver mesh over the body is barely there now. I still treasure it!

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Bonus hobbying content - check out the tree skirt that Grateful made for our tree! Applique and embroidery done by hand.

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This is also your reminder to stop by Club ONT later for the Christmas party!

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Did you miss the Hobby Thread last week? We did an scrounging and scavenging theme. The comments may be closed, but you can re-live the content.

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Notable comments from last week:

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Words of wisdom:

"Because despite all our troubles, when things are grim out in that wide round world of ours, that's when it's really important to have a good hobby." Posted by: tankascribe at June 22, 2024 07:41 PM (HWxAD).

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If you have trouble finding something in the content or comments that resonates with you, contribute something from your personal hobbying. We will feature a different theme next time. What are you hobbying? We love showing off Horde hobbying. Send thoughts, suggestions and photos of your hobbying to moronhobbies at protonmail dot com. Do mighty things.

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1 Handmade are the best ornaments.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 05:31 PM (uQesX)

2 Welcome Hobbiests

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 05:31 PM (Ia/+0)

3 OrangeEnt 👍
My grandmother ( dad's mother) made probably thousands in her life with a hard foam base then completely covered with sequins and things

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 05:34 PM (Ia/+0)

4 Sorry for you loss, Perfessor. It's got to be hard to replace cats.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 05:34 PM (uQesX)

5 Those reindeer are awfully close together. That better not be AI.

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 05:36 PM (vFG9F)

6 Was this morning doing last weeks thread, processing lead scraps. Made 50 bullets and another ingot more than 10 pounds.
Should somehow weigh them.

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 05:38 PM (Ia/+0)

7 OrangeEnt 👍
My grandmother ( dad's mother) made probably thousands in her life with a hard foam base then completely covered with sequins and things
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 05:34 PM (Ia/+0)

Somewhere deep in the boxes are a few handmades from school days of me and one of my bros. Wife likes new stuff, so all those and my grandparents 40s and 50s Shiny Brite ornaments are dust gathering in the garage.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 05:43 PM (uQesX)

8 Props to anyone who can 'Name That Float'!

Posted by: tRusty Hudson at December 13, 2025 05:45 PM (ZfTMG)

9 Afternoon, Hobby Horde, and TRex! After freezing my azz off running the snowblower, I am seated at the desk putting coins in rolls. I found a 1944 Wheat penny!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 05:46 PM (npFr7)

10 Sprue Brothers is having a 20% off sale on Dragon and Hong Kong Models.

So far resisting.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 13, 2025 05:47 PM (RQW+z)

11 Props to anyone who can 'Name That Float'!
Posted by: tRusty Hudson at December 13, 2025 05:45 PM (ZfTMG)

The only one I know is "Root Beer."

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 05:47 PM (uQesX)

12 Ages ago, our Christmas tree had about a dozen ornaments with various themed dioramas inside. They were not large.. maybe 2 - 5 inches tall/round. Obviously plastic.

Haven't see such since.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 05:48 PM (NwnyJ)

13 Navy about to tie Army, x-tra point will put them ahead if they score

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 05:50 PM (Ia/+0)

14 7 so all those and my grandparents 40s and 50s Shiny Brite ornaments are dust gathering in the garage.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 05:43 PM
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Sad trombone...

Posted by: TRex - dino is old too at December 13, 2025 05:51 PM (IQ6Gq)

15 Those reindeer are awfully close together. That better not be AI.
Posted by: fd
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Another fun Hallmark ornament from the '80s. Definitely not AI.

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 05:51 PM (IQ6Gq)

16 Very Hispanic/Filipino area. Lots of yard decorations. Yeah, nothing says the birth of Christ like a deflated inflatable barny the dinosaur or a green grinch demon. What happened to creches and nativity scenes?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 05:54 PM (Kt19C)

17 If we could find a tree large enough for ALL of the Moron Horde Christmas ornaments, it would be the bestest Christmas tree ever!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 05:54 PM (ESVrU)

18 Sad trombone...
Posted by: TRex - dino is old too at December 13, 2025 05:51 PM (IQ6Gq)

A lot of them say West Germany.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 05:54 PM (uQesX)

19 Re: tandem bike
ace and garret, who are the others? Bath house attendants?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 05:54 PM (h4uy9)

20 'Name That Float'!

A turd?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 05:56 PM (Kt19C)

21 VTK, that's a great idea, to commemorate the birth of your cats. Both of mine were born in '22, so they could share an ornament.

We had the standard ornaments when I was a kid at home. One thing we did have that was not a tree dangler was a Grumpy Santa -- a painted ceramic figure, about the size of a coin bank (and maybe he was one), that Mom had found in a downtown store like Woolworth's. She popped him atop the television -- or on a shelf after we had cats -- and she found him amusing.

I must have missed it among her things when I cleaned out her apartment after she passed. I have never seen another one, and a search for "grumpy Santa" on eBay produces zilch.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 05:56 PM (wzUl9)

22 Sad trombone...
Posted by: TRex - dino is old too at December 13, 2025 05:51 PM (IQ6Gq)

A lot of them say West Germany.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 05:54 PM (uQesX)
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I have one that's a silhouette of a nativity scene carved out of olive wood. It says it was made in Bethlehem, which I thought was pretty neat.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 05:57 PM (ESVrU)

23 I have one that's a silhouette of a nativity scene carved out of olive wood. It says it was made in Bethlehem, which I thought was pretty neat.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 05:57 PM (ESVrU)

There used to be a group from Bethlehem who came around in the fall offering carved sets. Haven't seen or heard about them in years.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 05:59 PM (uQesX)

24 I don't think I've ever seen car parts used as Christmas ornaments. It probably would not go over well here. Mrs fd would tell me to get my own tree.

My grandmother had some of those glass clamshell ornaments and others like them. She also had a color wheel, which makes any beautiful Christmas tree more beautifuler.

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 05:59 PM (vFG9F)

25 I almost forgot, bought a lot of ceramic ornaments that were pure white then painted them, wife painted some as well. They were our first ornaments for a Christmas tree. Haven't seen light of day since 1st Christmas with kittens. Never put one up again.

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 06:00 PM (Ia/+0)

26 Very Hispanic/Filipino area. Lots of yard decorations. Yeah, nothing says the birth of Christ like a deflated inflatable barny the dinosaur or a green grinch demon. What happened to creches and nativity scenes?
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 05:54 PM (Kt19C)

I don't care as much about Grinch decor, as it is a Christmas story, although subtle. Don't understand why this gnome stuff is coming out, plus dogs, cats, penguins - well, I know how that came about - or other animals that aren't associated with Christmas or winter. But, eh, what can you do?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 06:01 PM (uQesX)

27 old brass carb floats for the win. love it.
and my spring boxes are "push" (compression) and "pull" (extension).

Posted by: cmeat at December 13, 2025 06:01 PM (R11M+)

28 My maternal grandfather, being poor and on a small retirement income, used to make ornaments from seashells and sand dollars, spray painted and glittered. He’d drill a small hole and make a loop with fishing line to hang on the tree.

I wish some still existed. Perhaps I will make my
Own someday.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 13, 2025 06:02 PM (mT+6a)

29 Back in the day, we had glass ornaments on our Christmas tree. But after they were getting lower in number by attrition, thanks to our two poodles (who would play with them, batting at those on the lower branches), we needed to change our approach.

So, way back in 1986, my parents got a set of wooden ornaments which have proven to be dog-proof (so long as they are kept out of the range of puppies).

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 06:02 PM (4786I)

30 Most of the ornaments I made as a kid are on our tree. I took great care of those but blew up almost all of my GI Joe figures, trying to create authentic battles with Cobra.

Posted by: PA Dutchman at December 13, 2025 06:02 PM (31p00)

31 22 I have one that's a silhouette of a nativity scene carved out of olive wood. It says it was made in Bethlehem, which I thought was pretty neat.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 05:57 PM
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Maybe sometime we'll do a nativity set theme. That could be quite interesting.

Posted by: TRex - dino is usually unfairly omitted from manger scenes at December 13, 2025 06:03 PM (IQ6Gq)

32 The Grinch was a man ahead of his time -- a visionary! A prophet without honor in his own country!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 06:03 PM (wzUl9)

33 32 The Grinch was a man ahead of his time -- a visionary! A prophet without honor in his own country!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 06:03 PM (wzUl9)

The Grinch is my homie. : )

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 06:05 PM (4786I)

34 i miss bubble lights on the trees.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 06:06 PM (4786I)

35 I have about 30 years of the Hallmark Star Trek ornaments going back to the first year they issued them. I haven't put them on a tree in years, mostly because I don't want to bother with all the work of unpacking, plugging in or replacing batteries, and repackaging at the end of the season.

Posted by: PabloD at December 13, 2025 06:08 PM (Epuwl)

36 Tree lights certainly have changed often in my life time. Those big bulbs to led and many in-between

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 06:08 PM (Ia/+0)

37 This would be a perfect post to like Dave in Tx and his ugly Christmas Tree essay.

It was hysterical.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 13, 2025 06:10 PM (mT+6a)

38 17 If we could find a tree large enough for ALL of the Moron Horde Christmas ornaments, it would be the bestest Christmas tree ever!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 05:54 PM (ESVrU)

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That sounds very Mary Lou Who of you.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 13, 2025 06:11 PM (lCxV1)

39 > This would be a perfect post to like Dave in Tx and his ugly Christmas Tree essay.

It was hysterical.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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"the crap tree"

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 06:12 PM (NwnyJ)

40 I miss bubble lights on the trees.

We didn’t have those. But I do miss my dad carefully going over the strands of those big incandescent bulbs to find out which ones were bad.

Pretty sure he doesn’t miss that.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 13, 2025 06:13 PM (EXyHK)

41 Great thread! As I get older, I get ever more joy at hanging an ornament that has some sentimental value to me.

Of course homemade ornaments from loved ones climb up the sentimental value track much faster.

Posted by: HappyFun at December 13, 2025 06:14 PM (d2+05)

42 Awesome Horde!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 13, 2025 06:14 PM (2WIwB)

43 i miss bubble lights on the trees.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 06:06 PM (4786I)

They're available on Amazon. Not sure about vintage ones.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 06:14 PM (uQesX)

44
And there is absolutely nowhere to go to eat or have a drink.
Posted by: IrishEi

Walk into the Marriott. Bar and restaurant on the 1st floor on the right just past the entry.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 13, 2025 06:16 PM (QVmho)

45 Navy wins 16 ,- 15

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 06:16 PM (Ia/+0)

46 Navy wins 16 ,- 15

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 06:16 PM (Ia/+0)


17-16. Hard-fought.

Posted by: Vendette at December 13, 2025 06:16 PM (pJK38)

47 Go Navy, Beat Army...Semper Fortis

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 06:17 PM (IQ6Gq)

48 I wish I had found a few painted ornaments and sent them in. I knew the topic was requested

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 06:18 PM (Ia/+0)

49 NAVY 17-16!

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 06:18 PM (LHPAg)

50 old brass carb floats for the win. love it.
and my spring boxes are "push" (compression) and "pull" (extension).
Posted by: cmeat at December 13, 2025 06:01 PM (R11M+)

Heh. I have several bin boxes of both compression and tension springs. Need another for torsion and leaf springs.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 06:18 PM (npFr7)

51 Well, that was a hard fought game.

Well played, Navy.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 13, 2025 06:20 PM (9iRTe)

52 number 8
You don't know a Rochester when you see one?

Posted by: MkY at December 13, 2025 06:23 PM (q6tQZ)

53 I can't find my glue gun. My glue gun is missing.
I've looked everywhere but it's not there. I found the Oatmeal carton in which I stored it but only one one inch piece of glue was there.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 06:23 PM (ONKca)

54 52 number 8
You don't know a Rochester when you see one?
Posted by: MkY at December 13, 2025 06:23 PM
Comin' Boss!

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 06:24 PM (LHPAg)

55 Tree lights certainly have changed often in my life time. Those big bulbs to led and many in-between
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025


***
I remember those big hot bulbs. They are the kind of thing that would be outdoor lights now, if those aren't LEDs too. We had a real tree every year when I lived at home, and so we never left the lights on at night or when there was not at least one person awake to watch. Never had a fire, thankfully.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 06:24 PM (wzUl9)

56 We're festooning the wee vessel with Christmas lights and ornaments to celebrate the annual Christmas Boat Parade about to start in 2.5 hours. The ornaments are of the Chinese use-once-and-toss variety but I'm sure they're all biodegradable and stuff.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 13, 2025 06:25 PM (lCxV1)

57 The ornaments are of the Chinese use-once-and-toss variety but I'm sure they're all biodegradable and stuff.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)

(Won't mention forever plastics)

Posted by: MkY at December 13, 2025 06:26 PM (q6tQZ)

58 You don't know a Rochester when you see one?
Posted by: MkY at December 13, 2025 06:23 PM
Comin' Boss!
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025


***
Armed robber: "Your money or your life!"
Jack Benny (after one of his classic pauses): "I'm thinking, I'm thinking!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 06:27 PM (wzUl9)

59 48 I wish I had found a few painted ornaments and sent them in. I knew the topic was requested
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 06:18 PM (Ia/+0)

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Further such oversights will require a personal meeting with the Dean of Commenters and the possible loss of your cardboard-level privileges.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 13, 2025 06:27 PM (lCxV1)

60 Oh, you fancy spring sorters. I guess you need something to do when it's -5 degrees outside.

In addition to two boxes of springs I have another drawer with real little springs, and shelves of bigger springs. You'd be surprised how often I have to access my cache of springs, and how important springs really are to our modern way of life.

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 06:27 PM (vFG9F)

61 56 We're festooning the wee vessel with Christmas lights and ornaments to celebrate the annual Christmas Boat Parade about to start in 2.5 hours. The ornaments are of the Chinese use-once-and-toss variety but I'm sure they're all biodegradable and stuff.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 13, 2025 06:25 PM (lCxV1)
Toss over the side?

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 06:27 PM (LHPAg)

62 I can't find my glue gun. My glue gun is missing.
I've looked everywhere but it's not there. I found the Oatmeal carton in which I stored it but only one one inch piece of glue was there.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 06:23 PM (ONKca)


Who else had access to to it?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 13, 2025 06:28 PM (Wj1DV)

63 Last year a local suburb had its "Jeep" Christmas parade, with Jeep owners decorating their vehicles and rolling them along a route within the town. Shatteringly loud stereos, of course -- I can imagine the passengers were partly deaf afterward -- but it was a lot of fun to see how people dolled up their off-roaders.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 06:30 PM (wzUl9)

64 I can't find my glue gun. My glue gun is missing.
I've looked everywhere but it's not there. I found the Oatmeal carton in which I stored it but only one one inch piece of glue was there.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025
*
Who else had access to to it?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 13, 2025


***
And who had motive?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 06:30 PM (wzUl9)

65 I'm seriously considering a binocular 10x and 20x stereo microscope for my electronics bench. It should help placing micro-components (SMT) on circuit boards for a couple of kit builds that I plan to start constructing soon. Hoping Santa is gracious enough to have it under the tree in a couple of weeks. I've dropped more than enough hints to one of his helpers over the last few months.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 13, 2025 06:31 PM (abIsI)

66 You don't know a Rochester when you see one?
Posted by: MkY at December 13, 2025 06:23 PM
Comin' Boss!
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025

***
Armed robber: "Your money or your life!"
Jack Benny (after one of his classic pauses): "I'm thinking, I'm thinking!"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 06:27 PM (wzUl9)

Note for any young(er) person who might be on the page: Jack Benny was a famous comedian who died 51 years ago. He had a butler named Rodchester. Rochester was black and I am sure the whole thing would be racist now.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 06:33 PM (zZu0s)

67 Did the perp lick the oatmeal container?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 06:34 PM (zZu0s)

68 In addition to two boxes of springs I have another drawer with real little springs, and shelves of bigger springs. You'd be surprised how often I have to access my cache of springs, and how important springs really are to our modern way of life.
Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 06:27 PM (vFG9F)

The Native Americans used every bit of the spring.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 06:34 PM (uQesX)

69 Don't even get me started on torsion bars.

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 06:35 PM (vFG9F)

70 Our 15 year old microwave went tango uniform, had to order a new one from Lowes. Merry Christmas, so instead of steaks tonight, we are eating boiled cabbage. Praise the Lord!

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 06:36 PM (LHPAg)

71 Those ornaments are wonderful, especially with all the sentimental attachments. We don't have a tree up this year and the boxes with the ornaments are buried, so no photos. We have a few very old family ornaments. They weren't new when I was born so they have some serious age on them. (I'm amazed they have survived.) We have some hand crocheted snowflakes, heavily starched, from a dear friend, now gone. So simple and so special. We also have some handmade ones: clothes pins dressed up like characters from Charles Dickens. Mrs. JTB's friends, newly married and not much money,
(like most of us back then) used what they had and used wonderful imagination. They are wonderful for their own sake and for the memories.

Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 06:36 PM (yTvNw)

72 54 52 number 8
You don't know a Rochester when you see one?
Posted by: MkY at December 13, 2025 06:23 PM
Comin' Boss!

Not a Q-Jet... 50-50 shot now

Posted by: tRusty Hudson at December 13, 2025 06:37 PM (pDcsL)

73 Note: Jack Benny had better comedic timing than anyone alive today.

Honestly, thinking about it, I cannot think of a comedian today that uses the pause.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 06:37 PM (zZu0s)

74 Honestly, thinking about it, I cannot think of a comedian today that uses the pause.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 06:37 PM (zZu0s)

And apparently a very nice man.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 06:38 PM (uQesX)

75

NAVY!!

⚓️

(this is a good sign,
Navy won in 2024, Trump won. 2026 is looking good. that's all.)

Posted by: runner at December 13, 2025 06:38 PM (g47mK)

76 The Native Americans used every bit of the spring.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 06:34 PM
And the cabbage. The heart was reserved for Ten Bears and he gave me half it.
-Outlaw Josey Wales

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 06:39 PM (LHPAg)

77 Awesome ornaments and backstories, Horde. Thanks for the fun topic, Dino.

Posted by: scampydog at December 13, 2025 06:39 PM (46ZIb)

78 Honestly, thinking about it, I cannot think of a comedian today that uses the pause.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 06:37 PM (zZu0s)

I can’t think of any comedians today, except for those from the 90’s that have mostly retired.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 06:39 PM (k5cxK)

79 I can’t think of any comedians today, except for those from the 90’s that have mostly retired.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 06:39 PM (k5cxK)

Hmmm. Good point.

I am vaguely aware of Bill Burr and that he is a retard who sells out to Qatar.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 06:42 PM (zZu0s)

80 Those reindeer are awfully close together. That better not be AI.
Posted by: fd
*******
Another fun Hallmark ornament from the '80s. Definitely not AI.
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba
+++++

Reminds me of inprocessing at basic training....
Everybody! Get on that bench, sit like on a bike.
Get closer! Closer!
Dick-n-ass !!
Dick-n-ass !!

Looks around... Benches had plenty of room to sit normal

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 13, 2025 06:43 PM (/lPRQ)

81 69 Don't even get me started on torsion bars.
Posted by: fd


Our new Chevy 1 ton has torsion bars for the front end. They have to be 2-2.5 inches thick. Our RV trailer also has torsion axles. Smooth as butter going down the road. Much better than a leaf spring suspension.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 13, 2025 06:45 PM (abIsI)

82 75

NAVY!!

⚓️

(this is a good sign,
Navy won in 2024, Trump won. 2026 is looking good. that's all.)
Posted by: runner at December 13, 2025 06:38 PM (g47mK)
The VF-84 Hornet themed uniform was a great touch last year. Maybe a Seabee D-8 dozer theme would have been good this year?

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 06:45 PM (LHPAg)

83 Amazing how objects can bring back such clear memories and Christmas ornaments have to be near the top of the list. When we bring them out I can recall the trees from my childhood and the excitement of decorating for Christmas. Or memories of the people who gifted them. Even the original boxes that hold the pieces, now over 70 years old, evoke the memories.

Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 06:47 PM (yTvNw)

84 Having to pick just one ornament to feature was a challenge...we have ornaments from 3 of 4 sets of grandparents, both parents, tons of friends, ones we've collected domestically and internationally, as well as handmade ones over the years...each one has it's own story...adds to the magic of the season...and Nova Local - no way in the world does this tree get decorated in 45 minutes!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 06:47 PM (IQ6Gq)

85 Anyone have an aluminum Christmas tree?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 06:50 PM (uQesX)

86 Army/Navy game was down to the wire. Fun to watch. Meanwhile, it looks like Brown U. caught a case of mass-shooter this afternoon.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 13, 2025 06:50 PM (vV6n9)

87 Anyone have an aluminum Christmas tree?
Posted by: OrangeEnt
************
Pains me to admit it, but yes...my mother for some unknown reason thought this would be a good idea...even came with that color wheel...offended me every single season....

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 06:51 PM (IQ6Gq)

88 You don't know a Rochester when you see one?
Posted by: MkY
--------

I have a Stromberg 97 ceramic mug.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2025 06:52 PM (XeU6L)

89 Before I forget, there was a bagpiper in full kit playing carols in the Lowes parking lot today. When I dropped some cash in his bucket, I almost requested Scotland The Brave, but nah, this was his show and he was doing great.

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 06:52 PM (LHPAg)

90 Anyone have an aluminum Christmas tree?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 06:50 PM (uQesX)

I saw one in a home movie at my grandparents (Dad side.) To a young kid, it looked cool as hell with the color wheel.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 06:55 PM (zZu0s)

91 Ah yes, the old Noma™ series string lights.. One burns out, they ALL go out.

Parents had those, when I was little. There were fancy replacement/upgrade bulbs too: snowmen, churches, trees. Mom kept the burned-out shaped ones, just 'cause they were pretty ornaments even without light.

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 06:55 PM (rdVOm)

92 Best hobby thread ever

Thank you morons for sharing all those Christmas mementos

tcn's little boy is adorable.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 06:56 PM (A0sqA)

93 Thanks, TRex for the Hobby Thread, and this one was a lot of fun. Got here to late to really join in, and we got the ornaments out too late to get a photo to send. But I still enjoyed this very much.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at December 13, 2025 07:00 PM (H9K3b)

94 Glad the 'bubble' candles got mentioned. I've always been curious about the fluid therein. Alcohol?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2025 07:00 PM (XeU6L)

95 I do not understand these women who don't want their kid's and husband's ornaments on the tree. Get another fucking tree for your sterile, matchy-matchy tree.

And if your babies are at the age where they hang all the ornaments in tbe same place, so be it. I mean, adjust them if any are in danger of being damaged or broken, but is there anything more fun than walking into a home and being able to tell immediately that there are toddlers and wee girls and boys who helped decorate?!
You're not getting these years back, when they're so proud of thei little macaroni ornaments, and so thrilled to hang them all by themselves.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 07:01 PM (Vvh2V)

96 Fun to see everyone's ornaments and the stories behind them. Thanks, Horde.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 07:01 PM (6p0Jv)

97 We had a sort of aluminum tree. It was shaped like the metallic ones, but was white flocked. Mated it with red balls and tear-drops. And the color wheel, of course.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 13, 2025 07:01 PM (uQesX)

98 I have a star tree topper that throws out a disco light effect on the ceiling. It's fun. I should have thought to send a pic.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 07:05 PM (6p0Jv)

99 Thanks for the Hobby Thread T-Rex!

Great ornaments and two fantastic tree skirts!

Sharing the spirit of the season is a priceless gift.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 13, 2025 07:05 PM (kB9dk)

100 We collected several large nutcrackers soldiers when we lived in Germany. They are in storage now, but when we find our retirement home they will emerge again.

Just glad that were in Germany back when it was not infested with hajjis.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 13, 2025 07:08 PM (0aYVJ)

101 Just glad that were in Germany back when it was not infested with hajjis.
Posted by: Pug Mahon

Only Murcans, ammiright?

Posted by: MkY at December 13, 2025 07:11 PM (q6tQZ)

102 Any chance of a ' do it again' thread for next week?

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:12 PM (sDNVV)

103 Thank you so much for this thread, TRex! For the first time in my life, I didn't decorate, so our ornaments weren't out to photograph, but I hope to participate next year, should you choose to repeat the idea. I have multiple trees, full of ornaments, and yes, a few trees are somewhat themed, but if we had kids, those handmade ones would be front and center, along with the ones from my grandparent's tree, and those my mama collected for as when I was a little girl, shabby though they are.

You gawt-damned morons brought tears to my eyes with your stories. And tcn's little tiger! 🥰🥰🥰 and Viktor's kitties!

I hope you look at that ornament, and remember how cute he was, tcn...and that it helps you sane while he's doing his best to drive you insane right now!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 07:12 PM (Vvh2V)

104 off topic: oh no:

Amy Schumer and her husband have decided to go their separate ways.

In an Instagram post shared on Friday, Dec. 12, the 44-year-old "Kinda Pregnant" star shared that she and her husband, chef Chris Fischer, have decided to split after seven years of marriage.

"Blah blah blah Chris and I have made the difficult decision to end our marriage after 7 years. We love each other very much and will continue to focus on raising our son. We would appreciate people respecting our privacy at this time," she wrote in the caption.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 13, 2025 07:12 PM (CWTWj)

105 I'm the sole proprietor of the gun. Only the rats would have motive and it's too heave for them.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 07:12 PM (ONKca)

106 Basically most of the day was spent prototyping a case in blender for the Quark Mini Linux computer and 3D printing it, and also creating terminal aliases and zsh helper functions.

Who knew you could spend an hour deciding how you want your backup time stamp formatted.

For moments like this, Gin helps immensely.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 13, 2025 07:13 PM (XV/Pl)

107 Anybody knows what's Presdent Obama be doing foor Quanzar this yeer???

Posted by: Mary Cloggistein from Brattleboro, Vt at December 13, 2025 07:14 PM (38587)

108 GRRRR. I forgot to submit. I have one of the ornaments I inherited from my maternal grandparents, the balance perished in the great tree crash of 2008. A small glass glass horn in pastels. Also, we have hubby nec's spaceman ornament that his parents gave him decades ago. Also, the hen eggs I painted and donate to a local historic site. The hen was a runt and produces eggs about a bit bigger then a quail egg.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 13, 2025 07:15 PM (2NHgQ)

109 He had a butler named Rodchester. Rochester was black and I am sure the whole thing would be racist now.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone
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Also, he was part of the Amon n' Andy company.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 07:15 PM (ONKca)

110 re 107: hot dog

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 13, 2025 07:16 PM (CWTWj)

111 Love that Christmas tree skirt Grateful made. And thanks to TRex for the thread. So many lovely memories that were shared.

Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 07:16 PM (yTvNw)

112 Guy in his yard volunteered about his lit up nativity scene "we had a light in the Virgin Mary, but she burned out".

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 07:17 PM (Kt19C)

113 102 Any chance of a ' do it again' thread for next week?

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:12 PM
***
So it is written, so it shall be done.

Second chance for those that missed this one. Go ahead and send your ornaments. To keep it lively, the Hobby Thread mailbox will accept other Christmas decorations, crafts, nativity scenes, etc.

Posted by: TRex - Christkindlmarkt Dino at December 13, 2025 07:18 PM (IQ6Gq)

114 re 109: and the kid from the little rascals stymie later did some episodes of 'sanford and son'

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 13, 2025 07:18 PM (CWTWj)

115
We always had our three children hang the ornaments.

Who cares if things aren't symmetrical. It is family time, not little miss perfect time.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:19 PM (3ek7K)

116 TRex, thank you.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:19 PM (sDNVV)

117 Thank you for second chances for those who were tardy, TRex.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 07:20 PM (6p0Jv)

118 I love all the Horde ornaments! I don't decorate, except last year for my mom. But I have many ornaments (mine and now many of hers). I have a few from Russia. They have never made an appearance on a tree because they're definitely not cat-proof. My most treasured ornament is one that my SIL had made for Jesse and me for the only Christmas we had together. It hangs on the doorknob of my bedroom year round.

Last year we put up a little fake Charlie Brown tree, and only with non-breakable ornaments. It was up from before Thanksgiving through early February and the cat never knocked it over. A Christmas miracle :-)

Posted by: screaming in digital at December 13, 2025 07:20 PM (UONii)

119 65 I'm seriously considering a binocular 10x and 20x stereo microscope for my electronics bench. It should help placing micro-components (SMT) on circuit boards for a couple of kit builds that I plan to start constructing soon. Hoping Santa is gracious enough to have it under the tree in a couple of weeks. I've dropped more than enough hints to one of his helpers over the last few months.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 13, 2025 06:31 PM (abIsI)



Please post a review if Santa comes through, that's something I'm thinking about getting. I usually stick to the larger SMT parts, 1206 or bigger, and do OK with a magnifier and lots of light, but a microscope would help my 29 year old eyes.

Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 07:21 PM (X5Jzz)

120 Vinegar Syndrome sells an ornament that looks like a VHS tape.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 13, 2025 07:21 PM (CHHv1)

121 70 Our 15 year old microwave went tango uniform, had to order a new one from Lowes. Merry Christmas, so instead of steaks tonight, we are eating boiled cabbage. Praise the Lord!

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 06:36 PM (LHPAg)



Please tell me you're not eating steak tonight because you're saving money to pay for the new microwave, and not because you can't cook them in the dead microwave.

Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 07:24 PM (X5Jzz)

122 Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:19 PM (3ek7K)

God bless you for that, fourseasons!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 07:24 PM (Vvh2V)

123
And right back to you Tammy!!!

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:25 PM (3ek7K)

124 Nice ornaments and great stories behind them.

The tree is up at Casa Sin Problemas, GOA. We retired the 15 Year-old tree that served us well in California. Picked up the current 4ft "spruce" from Facebook Marketplace earlier today from a local. 40 bucks and she threw in two 50-light strings and other assorted ornaments. Merry Christmas, Hoard!

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 07:25 PM (nbLIj)

125 Time to say thank you before the next act takes the Ace of Spades stage. Thanks to all who contributed. We'll do this again next week with the same or similar theme (because Ben Had said so), so send in your goodies.

If you missed, please submit. If you submitted this week and have another ornament or Christmas decoration in mind, OK to send.

See y'all at the Club ONT Christmas party later!

Posted by: TRex - nativity shy dino at December 13, 2025 07:25 PM (IQ6Gq)

126 Thank you all for sharing your ornaments and your memories - this was absolutely wonderful!!!! Merry Christmas!!!

Posted by: moki at December 13, 2025 07:28 PM (wLjpr)

127 I'm going to take a nap so I can make the party.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:28 PM (sDNVV)

128 We have so many penguin Christmas ornaments, we decorate a separate small tree with just them. Deal with it, Spheniscidaphobes!

Posted by: Paco at December 13, 2025 07:28 PM (2L+MU)

129 I hang my Yak fiber stockings on the mantle.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:30 PM (sDNVV)

130 104 off topic: oh no:

Amy Schumer and her husband have decided to go their separate ways.

In an Instagram post shared on Friday, Dec. 12, the 44-year-old "Kinda Pregnant" star shared that she and her husband, chef Chris Fischer, have decided to split after seven years of marriage.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 13, 2025 07:12 PM (CWTWj)



So, he married her and put up with her when she was a fat pig, and now that she's a skinny pig, she dumps him. Nice. And lucky him, to be rid of her.

Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 07:30 PM (X5Jzz)

131 My old GE microwave went tits up a couple of years ago. Being on the cheap I bought one from Wally.
It's good for the money but that old GE was nice.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 07:31 PM (ONKca)

132
a.moron,

Lol. You are right.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:31 PM (3ek7K)

133 Please tell me you're not eating steak tonight because you're saving money to pay for the new microwave, and not because you can't cook them in the dead microwave.
Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 07:24 PM (X5Jzz)
Nobody cooks steaks in a microwave. We only use a hot skillet.
-Amos 'n Andy

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 07:32 PM (LHPAg)

134 Well I will find some of my painted ornaments and send a picture in

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:35 PM (Ia/+0)

135 Her husband looks like a fairly normal, fairly skinny dude. Not on ozempic.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 07:38 PM (zZu0s)

136 Please tell me you're not eating steak tonight because you're saving money to pay for the new microwave, and not because you can't cook them in the dead microwave.
Posted by: a.moron at December 13, 2025 07:24 PM (X5Jzz)

A microwave is no place for a steak. Frozen White Castles, maybe...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 07:39 PM (nbLIj)

137 I had a medium-sized Sharp Carousel II that I got in 1986. It lasted 20 years before the keypad went wonky, but could still use "minute plus" and some of the number keys. Kept it another few years, LOL. The next one, same brand, only lasted 8? I think. Now have a Hamilton Beach unit that sometimes shuts off mid-cycle. Have had it only 4 or 5 years.

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 07:39 PM (rdVOm)

138 * waves to Joe Kidd*

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:40 PM (sDNVV)

139 Day after Christmas have a little historical miniature game I am making, not sure how well it will come out but will post a picture anyway.

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:40 PM (Ia/+0)

140 Glad the 'bubble' candles got mentioned. I've always been curious about the fluid therein. Alcohol?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2025 07:00 PM (XeU6L)

My Dad said it was carbon tetrachloride. Alcohol + heat might end badly. Seems to me there was a little hunk of granular stuff in the bottom to nucleate the bubbles, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 07:41 PM (npFr7)

141 Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:25 PM (3ek7K)

Ditto, and may our Dear Lord shower you with many blessings in this new year coming!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 07:42 PM (Vvh2V)

142 Mike Hammer, package coming your way.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:42 PM (sDNVV)

143 Ben Had, I'd live to see your stockings!

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 13, 2025 07:42 PM (Vvh2V)

144
I found some bubble lights at an estate sale.

Estate sales are great for finding old, cool stuff.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:43 PM (3ek7K)

145 Now have a Hamilton Beach unit that sometimes shuts off mid-cycle. Have had it only 4 or 5 years.
Posted by: JQ
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Mine too. I wondered if I had a mind gap.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 07:43 PM (ONKca)

146 Tammy, I make these things and never think to take pictures.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:44 PM (sDNVV)

147 (Raises glass to Ben Had. Waggles eyebrows...)

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 07:44 PM (nbLIj)

148
Most new stuff today is crap.

Hubby and I think the lockdown had a lot to do with things being crap.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:45 PM (3ek7K)

149 Joe Kidd, you know you are at the top of my dance card so we can officially open the dance floor.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:46 PM (sDNVV)

150 Heh, for those still lingering on: it was for a Carter WGD, from a '50's Hudson Big Six 308ci straight 6 with a 2-barrel carb.

Posted by: tRusty Hudson at December 13, 2025 07:46 PM (pDcsL)

151 I used to decorate living room window sill with artificial branch garland, various pine/fir/spruce cones, and a set of bubble lights. Not 'old stock' lights-- I had purchased them at a Bi-Mart (discount store) in the early 2000s.

Anyway, left them on too long one afternoon and one of the bubbler thingys popped. Liquid got too hot? Stained the mini-blind with blue splatter, but no fire.

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 07:47 PM (rdVOm)

152 I found some bubble lights at an estate sale.

Estate sales are great for finding old, cool stuff.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:43 PM (3ek7K)

Bubble lights are the best damn Christmas lights ever invented. Earliest Christmas memories included those. I think they only lasted a few years, but they made an umpression...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 07:48 PM (nbLIj)

153 Got my coin rolling done. Ninety-one dollars in Canadian coins rolled, to go to the bank on Monday. I probably have a near-equal amount in U.S. coin that I will haul South with me, and feed to the Coinstar machine in WalMart. No point in rolling them.

Did a quick run to town for groceries, mail, etc. The white '99 Suburban started right up, not a moment's delay, despite having cold-soaked for several days in sub-zero weather. By the time I'd made the three miles to town, the heater was making its presence felt, and by the time I got home, it was nice and warm inside the beast. +5 F right now, and I saw what appears to be a Chinook arch in the far south, so it may warm up, as the forecast calls for.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 07:51 PM (npFr7)

154 Joe Kidd, you know you are at the top of my dance card so we can officially open the dance floor.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:46 PM (sDNVV)

I'm always up for a nice waltz..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00Ig33jctXs

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 07:52 PM (nbLIj)

155
AOP,

You will be heading to warm weather soon.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:52 PM (3ek7K)

156 Mom and Dad still have a Sharp Carousel that Grandma and Grandpa got them in the 80s. Has a dial timer setting (like an egg timer.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 07:52 PM (zZu0s)

157
It was 55 degrees here in SW Wyoming today. Very strange for us, but we'll take it.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:54 PM (3ek7K)

158 Revised forecast for tomorrow is a high of 14 and a low of 4.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 07:54 PM (zZu0s)

159 Heh, for those still lingering on: it was for a Carter WGD, from a '50's Hudson Big Six 308ci straight 6 with a 2-barrel carb.
Posted by: tRusty Hudson at December 13, 2025 07:46 PM (pDcsL)

I know a guy here in Alberta who is restoring a Hudson Hornet convertible with Twin-H power. Well, it's in the queue; a couple of other high-dollar cars precede it. Rick is a very skilled and meticulous restorer. It will be done right, when it gets done.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 07:55 PM (npFr7)

160 It was 55 degrees here in SW Wyoming today. Very strange for us, but we'll take it.

Posted by: fourseasons
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So, that's where the good temps went, cause they certainly aren't here...enjoy them!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 07:55 PM (IQ6Gq)

161 AOP,

You will be heading to warm weather soon.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:52 PM (3ek7K)

Planning on it. Probably later this coming week.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 07:56 PM (npFr7)

162 Pictures or it didn't happen I should take to heart. Sculpted a 15 piece Southwest nativity and didn't take picture one.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:56 PM (sDNVV)

163
Grateful,

5 y/o granddaughter asked today if we are going to have a brown Christmas this year, lol.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:56 PM (3ek7K)

164 5 y/o granddaughter asked today if we are going to have a brown Christmas this year, lol.

Posted by: fourseasons
Ha! I'm sure you assured her whatever the color, all Christmases are magical and good. What a great age, enjoy your time with her!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 07:58 PM (IQ6Gq)

165 Pictures or it didn't happen I should take to heart. Sculpted a 15 piece Southwest nativity and didn't take picture one.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Ugh! I did that for many years....finally about 8-10 years ago I intentionally tried to take a photo of everything I made....

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 08:01 PM (IQ6Gq)

166 Speaking of hobbies, I am going to hot up the soldering iron, and do some more work on this ancient radio I am refurbishing. It's a 1936 Canadian Westinghouse "farm radio", meant to run off dry cells or storage batteries. Uses "fat pin" tubes, 4, 5, and 6 pin tubes, with metal top caps for the grids. I have no idea if it will play, but it's kind of fun to mess with. All the wiring was rubber-insulated, and the rubber has become crisp, and falls off in strips. So replace nearly all the wires in the set. And the paper capacitors, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 08:01 PM (npFr7)

167
We had the four grandchildren, 3 to 11 y/o today so mom and dad could get everything wrapped and ready for Santa.

It was a wonderful day.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 08:02 PM (3ek7K)

168 Movie thread is nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 13, 2025 08:03 PM (zZu0s)

169 The Grateful, I did manage to get a friend to send me pictures of some rustic churches I did out of hunkts of wood here on the farm. I would like to submit them.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 08:04 PM (sDNVV)

170 >>>I probably have a near-equal amount in U.S. coin that I will haul South with me, and feed to the Coinstar machine in WalMart. No point in rolling them.
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I go to self check out, cash machine with a pocket full of coins (best done at low traffic times). First thing, all the pocket coin goes into the machine.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (ONKca)

171
AOP,

I love reading about all your projects.

I'm not handy and appreciate people who are.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 08:07 PM (3ek7K)

172 I go to self check out, cash machine with a pocket full of coins (best done at low traffic times). First thing, all the pocket coin goes into the machine.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 08:06 PM (ONKca)

Well, that's a way to avoid the Coinstar vigorish, I guess.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 08:08 PM (npFr7)

173 The bank here will take all your coins and they don't charge anything.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 08:09 PM (sDNVV)

174 We have an original aluminum tree that we put up every alternate year. Manitowoc (where a lot of the trees were made) puts a bunch on display in Main Street shops every year. I would seriously love to find a pink one.

Posted by: The Neon Madman at December 13, 2025 08:15 PM (yNfcm)

175 174/
I know that Hobby Lobby has pink trees, but not sure if they are aluminum, probably just plastic

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 08:17 PM (IQ6Gq)

176 I did manage to get a friend to send me pictures of some rustic churches I did out of hunkts of wood here on the farm. I would like to submit them.
Posted by: Ben Had
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Would LOVE to see those!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 08:18 PM (IQ6Gq)

177 We had the four grandchildren, 3 to 11 y/o today so mom and dad could get everything wrapped and ready for Santa.

It was a wonderful day.
Posted by: fourseasons
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This just makes me SMILE!

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 13, 2025 08:19 PM (IQ6Gq)

178 Love all of the ornaments! I have been collecting one (or two) a year since we got engaged in 1978. I have a lot. Plus a few antique ones from his family and mine.

My favorite is a ceramic one of two boys carrying a tree. Which is similar to one of my favorite photos I took of our boys "helping" carry the tree my brother cut on our farm. It is framed and I keep it in our bedroom in the event of fire (which is weird as I will probably forget it).

I keep meaning to paint the scene and have Christmas cards printed but I never do.

Christmas does bring back good memories and sentiment of family past and present. I wish all good memories on you all.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 08:50 PM (WONhk)

179 Forgot to add: when our sons were hatched I got them a new ornament each year. Either with the date or I wrote the date and their name in sharpie on the back.

The first Christmas of their marriage I gave them each bins of these ornaments for their tree with their brides.

Now I buy an ornament (with the year!!!) for them plus our grandchildren. Often with their names and ,of course, the year. Etsy has some great artists who make them.

I confess to being an Etsy addict.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 08:54 PM (WONhk)

180 5 y/o granddaughter asked today if we are going to have a brown Christmas this year, lol.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 07:56 PM (3ek7K)

You, too?

I have been praying for snow. The Mountain West is getting ripped off so far.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 08:58 PM (WONhk)

181 Done soldering for a bit. Got the "A" circuit done. Time to wash dishes, and make some supper.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 09:24 PM (npFr7)

Ace of Spades Pet Thread, December 13

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Good afternoon and welcome to the almost world famous Ace of Spades Pet Thread. Thanks for stopping by. Kick back and enjoy the world of animals.

Would you like a treat?

Let's relax a little with the animals and leave the world of politics and current events outside today.

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What should you do if you see a fox in your yard?

Southern Living

Foxes are beautiful animals that you may be surprised to see in your garden. But like many wildlife species, they’ve learned to live near us. "Foxes are more commonly observed now," Robert Pierce, PhD, associate professor and state extension fisheries and wildlife specialist at the University of Missouri. "You’ll see them in urban and suburban areas because they’ve adapted to the conditions."

Most of the time, foxes are naturally shy and hide from us. "Generally, we don’t have negative interactions with them," says Sheldon Owen, PhD, wildlife extension specialist at West Virginia University. "They prefer to stay out of sight and are primarily nocturnal, although you will also see them during the day, especially if they’re hunting for their pups."

The greatest risk to people and pets with foxes is that they can carry canine distemper, fleas, ticks, and the mites that can cause mange, says Owen. Like all mammals, foxes also can carry rabies, but it’s a small number, as compared to other wildlife species such as bats, raccoons and skunks.

Typically, foxes are not a serious issue for homeowners. "Most often we get calls from people saying they have a fox family in their back yard," says Pierce. "We advise to give them their space and observe and enjoy the experience."

More at the link. And this is interesting:

Last week, we learned that By-Tor had raccoons at his house again. They may be more of a problem sometimes.


Or maybe not . . . . .


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Meet The PetMorons

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Conor Pup was diagnosed with lymphoma and started chemotherapy treatment at a canine oncologist in the mid-fall. It was not an easy path for either of us, but we endeavored to persevere but as you can see, he graduated at the top of his class.

Hrothgar

Hate to hear about Conor's big challenge. You both deserve to feel a sense of gratitude and pride.

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Walking the girls around the thousands of Christmas lights downtown. They were good even though they are not very social (farm dogs). A friend made the noses for some muzzles we had. One gentleman asked how we kept the noses on until he got a closer look. Merry Christmas.

S.Lynn, Idaho

What a wonderful story! Merry Christmas, girls!

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Howdy K.T.,

Wifey and I were privileged to attend the TX MoMe a couple months ago and she took the attached photo of the playful cute dog running around the property (presumably the pet of our hosts Rancher Bob and Cow Horse Queen); I think I asked around what its name was but none of the other attendees I inquired with knew.

I think I'll just call him (or her?) "Ace" next time ... ;-)

Cheers (and thanks for hosting the Pet Thread each weekend)!
-- ShainS and "Wifey of ShainS

Prescott, AZ, USA

Howdy! Thanks for sending in a photo of such a great PetMoron!


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Next Week, Christmas-themed Pets, especially!

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Thank you for sharing your pets and animal photos and stories with us today.

If you would like to send pet and/or animal stories, links, etc. for the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, the address is:

petmorons at protonmail dot com

Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known when you comment at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.

Until next Saturday, have a great week!

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If you start feeling nostalgic, here a link to last week's Pet Thread, the Ace of Spaces Pet Thread, December 6

I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.

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1 Pets!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 13, 2025 03:46 PM (LjSYW)

2
What should you do if you see a fox in your yard?

I have 11 choices.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 03:46 PM (tgvbd)

3 That dog at the TXMOME got a special treat from me, though not on purpose.

I had set a plate with a hamburger on it on the side tray of my lawn chair. Unfortunately, the plate wasn't very stable and fell off when I wasn't looking. Or it was helped. Not sure.

In any case, the dog was kind enough to clean up my mess.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 03:53 PM (ESVrU)

4 Woof.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 03:54 PM (Kt19C)

5 I heard Cow Horse Queen call one of the dogs "Zip." I forget which one, though.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 13, 2025 03:55 PM (yNJrI)

6 I'd love to see a fox in my yard. If I had one. We've had opossums here, and I know I've glimpsed a coyote or two in the predawn hours when I work out.

I did see foxes often in the Denver area, including ones dashing around the animal enclosures at he zoo. The staffers told me they no longer even tried to keep the foxes out; they slipped under the fences or slid between the rails. One morning in Red Rocks Park, I saw one coppery, bushy-tailed fellow on the opposite side of the road where I'd parked. He seemed totally unfazed by the presence of me or my car. I sat and watched him look around until he trotted away from the trail, intent on his own foxy pursuits.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 03:57 PM (wzUl9)

7 You met Sakura last week, the stray calico weegie. Lately, she has become more affectionate and more willing to spend time indoors with me. Still freaks out at the presence of other people. She has also been joined by a smol black cat I am calling "Babymonster." Who despite being hungry and frightened is also a lot more willing to get close and even be petted than most stray khets. Sakura has become territorial about our backyard, but she lets Babymonster in.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2025 03:58 PM (f0sNM)

8 Both of my furry thugs, Stirling the big black medium-hair and little gray Dagny the fluffy fireplug of a Siberian, were sleeping with me when I woke from my nap. The day is warm but not hot; I have the door open, and they are now intently watching things of interest to them through the screen door.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 03:59 PM (wzUl9)

9 Woof!! Wonderful pets pals as always. Hrothgar, you are an exceptional person for doing what you did for Conor the scholar pup. Good on ya. Thanks for the pet thread K.T.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 13, 2025 04:00 PM (9W1vH)

10 Hey guy,

Happy Caturday!

I have updated the cat blog #348

https://tinyurl.com/53vh725hsw

Posted by: Joyenz at December 13, 2025 04:02 PM (2F0/Y)

11 Sakura has become territorial about our backyard, but she lets Babymonster in.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2025


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If Babymonster is a boy and Sakura is not spayed, you may have a joyful event coming. Precocious Stirling was only five months old, and Dagny the same, when he was already trying to get next to her and warm himself by her fire. We had to separate them until I could get first one and then the other docked.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 04:02 PM (wzUl9)

12 Happy Caturday everyone

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 04:03 PM (Ia/+0)

13 Pretty sure I had a family of red foxes denned up under an old truck body in the bottom corner of my lot a few years ago. Have not seen any lately. No animal tracks at all in last night's snowfall, which I just came in from clearing with the snowblower. Must be too cold. Usually plenty of bunny tracks, and deer sometimes.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 04:04 PM (npFr7)

14 9 Woof!! Wonderful pets pals as always. Hrothgar, you are an exceptional person for doing what you did for Conor the scholar pup. Good on ya. Thanks for the pet thread K.T.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 13, 2025 04:00 PM (9W1vH)

Here here! Conor is an extraordinary boy, to be sure, and deserves all the love, attention and care Sir Hrothgar lavishes on him!! Frankly, both are extraordinary souls!!!

Posted by: moki at December 13, 2025 04:07 PM (wLjpr)

15 Rancher Bob and Cow Horse Queen's handsome fellow is a heterochrome (if I'm using the term right) -- one eye blue and the other brown?

When Miss Linda gets a look at the Christmas outfits on S. Lynn's girls, she's gonna want to devise something like it for my cats. She keeps saying, "They don't mind costumes." To which I reply, "How do you know?" She insists on putting a Santa suit on them every year and taking pictures. At that it's better than the princess cone-cap and cape she used to dress the late Marie-Antoinette in. True, Marie did not seem to mind; it meant more attention from her human servants, and that she loved.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 04:08 PM (wzUl9)

16 Smash rescued a neighbor's cat from being dinner for a fox several years ago.

See them frequently enough around here to not be surprised when one passes through.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 13, 2025 04:10 PM (QVmho)

17 My big tom caught a mouse and "played it to death" night before last, just before I let him in for the night. He got a treat for being a mighty hunter, but I let the mouse on the porch.
The next morning I threw it over the fence for the neighbor's chickens, and a while later I saw the youngest kitten batting it around and mock-hunting it. When she saw me watching she picked it up and trotted over to show me.
She got a treat too, and the sadly mangled mouse went in the compost heap, hopefully for good.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 04:11 PM (rbvCR)

18 Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2025 03:58 PM (f0sNM)

So glad to hear you are earning their trust.

Hrothgar

So sorry your pup had to even go through that. I am glad he is doing well. We have lost several cats to lymphoma. Horrible disease.

Posted by: Joyenz at December 13, 2025 04:12 PM (2F0/Y)

19 We had a fox napping in our yard all afternoon last Sunday

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 13, 2025 04:15 PM (DoBxX)

20 There was an item on a thread last week about the suggestion that raccoons are becoming more domesticated. I find this hard to believe. They are smart creatures, but still wild animals. It may take a long while before they are domesticated, if ever.

Maybe they are becoming "domestic-lite," as in perfectly happy to live in proximity to humans for the food and even the entertainment value. The way cats began to take up with us.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 04:16 PM (wzUl9)

21 Oboy. Didn't nap through the pet thread today.

We're fortunate that neither the cat, nor the dog, nor the four "cousin" dogs visiting yesterday, care about the tree inside the house.

Daisy, our dear, sweet and sensitive Malinois, did not care for this brief, creative version of Jingle Bells. Made her whine and cry, so I stopped it before the end.

https://youtu.be/fG90ZlnloAE

Posted by: mindful webworker - squeaky squeaky at December 13, 2025 04:20 PM (lbDMw)

22 So about foxes,....

A couple years ago, had a HUGE mole/vole problem. Backyard looked like varicose veins. Noticed that a pair of foxes (assuming M/F pair) started showing up in the backyard in the EARLY morning (I generally wake up around 4:30 and grab some coffee). Within 4-6 months NO MORE MOLES/VOLES!!!!

Ya think the two might be somehow linked?????

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 04:21 PM (e/Osv)

23 There was an item on a thread last week about the suggestion that raccoons are becoming more domesticated. I find this hard to believe. They are smart creatures, but still wild animals. It may take a long while before they are domesticated, if ever.

Maybe they are becoming "domestic-lite," as in perfectly happy to live in proximity to humans for the food and even the entertainment value. The way cats began to take up with us.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 04:16 PM (wzUl9)
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I think an animal has to have a distinct useful purpose to humans before it can truly be called "domesticated." Racoons don't serve any purpose other than to be a nuisance. Acclimated to human activity, but not in danger of being domesticated any time soon.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 04:22 PM (ESVrU)

24 Meow!

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by meow at December 13, 2025 04:23 PM (sAmhv)

25 The ranch doggo’s name is Jane.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 13, 2025 04:23 PM (mT+6a)

26 I think an animal has to have a distinct useful purpose to humans before it can truly be called "domesticated." Racoons don't serve any purpose other than to be a nuisance. Acclimated to human activity, but not in danger of being domesticated any time soon.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 04:22 PM (ESVrU)

I think "acclimated" to humans is the key here. I live in the suburbs next to a reservoir, so we get ALL sorts of critters in the neighborhood. This time of year, it's 6-10 deer in the yard eating acorns and crabapples.

I go outside to warm the truck, and they may glance at me, but they don't run. I swear I have been within 15 feet of a couple. Hmm, is this where I start considering "alternate" hunting methods???

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at December 13, 2025 04:28 PM (e/Osv)

27 I've seen several foxes in my little part of Babylon DC, even as developed as it is here, for years. Fairly common siting.

Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by meow at December 13, 2025 04:31 PM (sAmhv)

28 …This time of year, it's 6-10 deer in the yard eating acorns and crabapples.…
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter


We hardly ever saw deer all summer and early fall. Funny thing, as soon as hunting season starts, we get many of them here in the living area.

They drive Daisy dog crazy, mad barking and running from window to window. But so do the feral cats down the driveway. Also, squirrels, blowing leaves, and hallucinations, as far as we can tell.

Posted by: mindful webworker - almost as if they knew at December 13, 2025 04:34 PM (lbDMw)

29 There was an item on a thread last week about the suggestion that raccoons are becoming more domesticated. I find this hard to believe.

Its pretty easy. We're not trapping or shooting 'coons, or deer, or turkey anymore.

Let the grocery store shut down a couple weeks. Then you'll hear some bangs. And then all those cute critters won't come 'round anymore. They won't be extinct ... as a species.

And you'll see some skinny, miserable people. And some people that don't look at the end of starvation. The End.

Posted by: Howdy at December 13, 2025 04:34 PM (ivXYS)

30 You don't want to have foxes nearby during mating season. If you've read or heard that a vixen sounds like woman screaming, it's very true. First time I heard it I wasn't sure if I needed to call 911 because someone was in trouble.

Posted by: Vendette at December 13, 2025 04:34 PM (pJK38)

31 It's snowing a lot, here at Little Oaxaca on the Miami. Smoke the Cat wanted to go out earlier. He took a couple of steps outside into the falling snow & cold...and turned around his own length and went back in!

Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 04:36 PM (XjTSo)

32 A friend of mine loves black cats and recently lost one. Who knows? Maybe Babymonster will end up being one of the lucky ones who finds a home.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2025 04:37 PM (f0sNM)

33 There was an item on a thread last week about the suggestion that raccoons are becoming more domesticated. I find this hard to believe.
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This was actually a topic of discussion at a work meeting. Item 5: Raccoons: Are they self-domesticating. I'm not making this up.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2025 04:38 PM (f0sNM)

34 A friend of mine loves black cats and recently lost one. Who knows? Maybe Babymonster will end up being one of the lucky ones who finds a home.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 13, 2025


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In my limited experience (three so far), black cats are the most easygoing and adaptable, and possibly the smartest, of all the coat colors.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 04:40 PM (wzUl9)

35
Award of Merit, but not Best of Breed, for The Big Dummy at today's AKC National Championship show. Her Majesty said he was a hot and tired boy.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 04:40 PM (tgvbd)

36 2
What should you do if you see a fox in your yard?

I have 11 choices.
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The fox doesn't need my approval, he needs the approval of Smoke the yard panther.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 04:42 PM (XjTSo)

37 It's snowing a lot, here at Little Oaxaca on the Miami. Smoke the Cat wanted to go out earlier. He took a couple of steps outside into the falling snow & cold...and turned around his own length and went back in!
Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025


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Last January we had a historic (for here) snowfall. Linda got the idea to see how little Dagny the Siberian would react to conditions in her "homeland." She toted Dagny out -- and the little cat, normally silent, let out a yowl you could have heard across the street. We brought her in quick.

Last month she tried exposing Dagny to warmer and calmer conditions. Dagny did not complain at all. So it was the cold or the snow hitting her fur that bothered her before, not the vista of the scary wide open outdoors.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 04:43 PM (wzUl9)

38 Someone new moved into the neighborhood and has a gorgeous Siamese long haired blue eyed beauty. She is very friendly and has an air tag on her collar.

This is not a safe place for kitties. Too many cars and coyotes, owls, eagles and yes, fox. And she doesn’t seem particularly street smart. Ugh. Makes me horribly anxious and worried for the pretty pretty girl.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 13, 2025 04:43 PM (mT+6a)

39 100 Calculus 2 Problems: The Ultimate Final Exam Review Marathon

Posted by: Maths at December 13, 2025 04:44 PM (taD4S)

40 It's snowing a lot, here at Little Oaxaca on the Miami. Smoke the Cat wanted to go out earlier. He took a couple of steps outside into the falling snow & cold...and turned around his own length and went back in!
Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025


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At Christmas time in '89, we had another historic (for here) snowfall. When I got home, I decided to let Arizona the red-and-white tabby part-Coon out into the little fenced patio, to see how he'd react to "Maine" conditions. He padded around on the snow, sniffing at everything and holding his muzzle up to feel the snow on his nose. I got cold before he did and ushered him back inside.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 04:46 PM (wzUl9)

41 7 You met Sakura last week, the stray calico weegie. Lately, she has become more affectionate and more willing to spend time indoors with me. Still freaks out at the presence of other people.
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Smoke the cat sort of joined me over the period of a couple of weeks. He was part of the beggars I feed for a while, but was a little different. He was less of a fraidy-cat & more confidant. Sometime in September he realized all the food came from inside our house, so he let himself in. He stayed longer each time, and by October he was staying for good. I'm sure he was previously owned, but put outside or abandoned right after he had atrained his full growth.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 04:47 PM (XjTSo)

42 If anyone wants a possum as a pet or neighbor, they can come get the one that shows up here sometimes. He's attracted by the food I put out for the beggars, so i have had to switch feeding times. I have food for cats, not for possums.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 04:50 PM (XjTSo)

43 Hrothgar, Sorry to hear about Conor's cancer. Hope he is fully recovered. You are special.

Posted by: Mrs JTB at December 13, 2025 04:53 PM (yTvNw)

44 We have red foxes in our neighborhood although I haven't seen one in our yard since spring. Sometimes we hear them at night. It's a very odd sound, kind of a cross between a sheep's baa and a scream.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 13, 2025 04:57 PM (3nLb4)

45 In my limited experience (three so far), black cats are the most easygoing and adaptable, and possibly the smartest, of all the coat colors.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 04:40 PM (wzUl9)
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I only have one sample (Penny) but she's very much like you describe.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 04:58 PM (ESVrU)

46 I had a fox conversation a few years back. I went outside for an early morning mug of coffee, to look at some work we were having done.

The fox walked up to me and cocked his head as though to say, Do I know you? As close as any dog. I just talked to him. He nodded and went off into the garden--between me and my house--checking back every few steps. You're still here? Then wandered away.

One of the workers was already on site. I said, Did you see that? He said, Never seen anything like it. So I have a witness.

Posted by: Wenda at December 13, 2025 05:02 PM (A65Zh)

47 I have my own possums, thanks!

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 13, 2025 05:02 PM (+mUZM)

48 A few years ago--before we adopted our dog, Luna--we had two baby foxes hang out in our yard. In central Texas, these are gray foxes. One of the fairly unique qualities of our foxes is that they are great tree climbers. The two babies in our yard frequented a hollow in one of our native live oaks. They'd crawl down and play and explore in our side yard.

We christened the female "Adventure Fox" and her brother "Cautious Fox" based on their behavior. Mom fox came by to tend them frequently. We had a very entertaining spring watching them grow up but have only occasionally seen foxes in our yard since then.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at December 13, 2025 05:03 PM (FEVMW)

49 >>The fox walked up to me and cocked his head as though to say, Do I know you? As close as any dog. I just talked to him. He nodded and went off into the garden--between me and my house--checking back every few steps. You're still here? Then wandered away.

The day I moved into this house some friends came over with a bottle of champagne to celebrate. We were out on the patio having some bubbly and a fox came out of the conversation land, stopped in the yard and just watched us. He stood there for about 30 seconds and then turned and trotted through the yard. Cheeky little bugger.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2025 05:09 PM (viF8m)

50 Today's Update:

I am up and about (I have always recovered fairly quickly from most surgeries that I have had), and I am giving the nursing staff kittens because I am an old lady with an old lady's bladder, and when I need to go, I NEED TO GO!!!!! I have asked them to turn off the floor alarm....(they are threatening to assign me a full-time "handler" if I don't comply with the floor alarm, because I am a "fall risk"🤣🤣🤣

It looks like the largest tumor is, for all intents and purposes, dead. However, the smaller tumors are still there, and it looks like at least 1 more has cropped up. Some lymph nodes were sent off to be biopsied to see if the cancer has spread beyond the liver, and tissue from a couple of the smaller tumors was also sent off to see if those cancer cells have mutated (a common occurrence).

Once the surgeon got into the abdominal area, it was obvious to him that there was more tumor involvement than either the CT scans or the MRIs had shown (also a common occurrence), so he made the decision - which we had talked about in advance - to leave the liver intact and install an HAI pump inside of the liver instead.

(Continued....)

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 13, 2025 05:10 PM (fV+di)

51 .....They will be running a “pump test” on Monday – while I am still in the hospital – to make sure that the pump is adequately delivering medication into my liver. If it is, the doctor thinks that I should be able to be discharged on Monday.

I don’t know when they plan on starting the chemo through the pump, but it appears that I will not have to “sit through” weekly chemo sessions, as the medication is sort of time-released through the HAI pump – a couple of weeks of focused chemo, followed by a week or two off. I will also be able to continue oral chemo in addition to the concentrated internal chemo which will be given through the pump. Once we know more about potential mutations in the cancer cells, a decision will be made about what type of chemo I will need to be on going forward.

I don’t know what the side effects of the new chemo in the pump will be, nor do I know if they will be starting a different oral chemo – it’s going to depend on if they find a new mutation in the tumor tissues. If the combination of both of these treatments results in tumor shrinkage, the hope is to get me to a liver resection at some point in the near future.

(Continued....)

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 13, 2025 05:11 PM (fV+di)

52 I see lots of grey foxes around here, especially when I'm going to work in the early morning.

Jane and Zip are great dogs!! I need to bring my dog to see if they'll rub off on him. Buckley is a really great dog, just needs a few rough edges smoothed out. 🤗

Posted by: lin-duh at December 13, 2025 05:12 PM (VCgbV)

53 ....If the new chemo(s) don’t shrink the tumors, we are hoping that at the very least I will get several months more of Progression-Free Disease (PFD).

In the meantime, “Bucket List Year #2: Electric Boogaloo” plans continue apace. First on the list is our trip to Las Vegas in February, where we will be seeing Chicago (the band), Piff the Magic Dragon, Barry Manilow, The Wizard of Oz, The Eagles, and Penn and Teller, as well as taking a nighttime limo ride down the Strip and a helicopter tour over the Grand Canyon with a sojourn over the Skywalk.

In March we have tickets to see Jeff Dunham in concert in Reno combined with a visit with our oldest daughter’s family (well really, we’re going to see the grandbabies!), followed by a George Strait Concert in Lubbock in April, and then a trip down to Galveston in May to see Jeff Foxworthy and to spend some time with my BFF from high school and her family.

Last but not least, in July we have tickets to see “Hamilton” at Bass Hall in Fort Worth. We will be going with a large-ish group of friends to see that, preceded by dinner at The Cheesescake Factory (which is right across the street from Bass Hall).

(Continued....)

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 13, 2025 05:13 PM (fV+di)

54 ....Then, God willing and the creek don’t rise, in October we will be driving down to Corsicana for the annual Ace of Spades Moron Meet-Up – I have promised to bring along at least one “Black Forest Cake” from The Swiss Pastry Shop in Fort Worth.

Well, that’s all for now – I would like to thank everyone for all of their prayers and well wishes, and thank goodness for the miracle of modern medicine!

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 13, 2025 05:13 PM (fV+di)

55 That’s fascinating about your foxes! I looked up foxes in Texas, because I know I’ve seen a red fox here in East Texas, and learned that grey foxes are indigenous, but red foxes got introduced and turned loose by somebody a while back, so there’s a lot of those around too.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 05:13 PM (k5cxK)

56 That is wonderful Theresa!!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 05:14 PM (k5cxK)

57 Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 13, 2025 05:11 PM (fV+di)

Continued prayers. Stay strong and faithful.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 05:16 PM (KDPiq)

58 44 We have red foxes in our neighborhood although I haven't seen one in our yard since spring. Sometimes we hear them at night. It's a very odd sound, kind of a cross between a sheep's baa and a scream.
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Foxes can make some goofy sounds at times. I've heard them yelling during the mating season, and it makes me wonder what that noise is. Even though I know it's foxes.

Posted by: exdem13 at December 13, 2025 05:16 PM (XjTSo)

59 The foxes and my cats seem to coexist with each other.

Posted by: lin-duh at December 13, 2025 05:16 PM (VCgbV)

60 And while I’m not wild about “Hamilton”, I’ve been to Bass Hall a few times and I think that’s one of the best performance venues in the entire country.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 05:17 PM (k5cxK)

61 I was golfing a few years ago at the local club and saw two fox pups, watching me play. They followed the ball in the air, it was cute. Then one of them nipped the other and they started chasing and playing with each other.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at December 13, 2025 05:22 PM (8NxQe)

62 OT, breaking. Mass shooting at Brown University in RI. Links at Insty. Sounds bad.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 13, 2025 05:22 PM (3nLb4)

63 Sitting in the car in the parking garage at Philly airport. Son's flight is delayed 3 hours. Aarrgh! And there is absolutely nowhere to go to eat or have a drink.

Posted by: IrishEi on the phone at December 13, 2025 05:25 PM (0vGzG)

64 >>OT, breaking. Mass shooting at Brown University in RI. Links at Insty. Sounds bad.

Trying to get some details but seeing mixed reports. It does sound pretty bad.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 13, 2025 05:28 PM (viF8m)

65 On-topic, just ran across this c/o blazingcatfur:

https://x.com/iris_seraphina/
status/1998456615314325674

Cat saving chicken from fox
🦊🐓🐈

Says it's ring cam. Looks like maybe AI to me, dunno.

Posted by: mindful webworker - everything is virtual at December 13, 2025 05:31 PM (lbDMw)

66 Go Navy beat Army!

Posted by: Archer at December 13, 2025 05:32 PM (YGRGv)

67 Navy's down by 6

Posted by: Archer at December 13, 2025 05:34 PM (YGRGv)

68 HOBBY NOOD

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 05:34 PM (Ia/+0)

69 Love the pet thread. Thanks to all who send in pet pictures! I miss my doggehs.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 13, 2025 09:32 PM (t93WW)

Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, Dec. 13

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Happy Winter Season! Don in Kansas has something cheerful for us:

It's more winter than fall now, and there's little happening outside, or inside. However, a friend up the street has a little greenhouse in which the plants are quite active . . .

Click on the link for a few more plants, including a Bird of Paradise.

Don also posted some Romanian Folk Dances by Bartok.

"Some easy Bartok. His music is not all grating dissonances."

Moldova (see earlier thread) was once part of the Romanian principality, and they speak Romanian there.

The Soviet era meant that most tomatoes grown there were developed as open-pollinated strains, not as hybrids. One of these is Glory of Moldova. It's a little orange saladette tomato that gets some great reviews. I love the name. "Glory of Moldova" is a little orange tomato!

Thinking about next year's garden choices?

"Glory of Moldova" is probably in here somewhere. Romania is next door. But in addition to little orange and yellow tomatoes, big red oxhearts are prominently mentioned in the comments. Those are great, too.

More typical winter experiences coming up for many people:

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Edible Gardening/Putting Things By

Two batches of photos from Nan in AZ:

Summer was so hot, we didn't get much at all, but went out last week and found a nice collection of veggies and lettuce volunteering all over the place.

NICE. Glad there are SOME of us getting some veggies!

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WOW.

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Gardens of The Horde

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Had to capture this last leaf on my weeping willow. The very top of the tree and pure defiance in the face of winter.

Diogenes

Pure Defiance!

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Hope everyone has a nice weekend.


If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening Thread, the address is:

ktinthegarden at g mail dot com

Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.

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Week in Review

What has changed since last week's thread? Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, Dec. 6

Any thoughts or questions? check out the fruit tree and apple cider comments near the end of the comment section.

I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.

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1 I have so many tomato seeds! But I am impressed by Cherokee Purple. I didn't get any vine ripened ones, but every single one ripened in the house and they were tasty. I still have some in the fridge. I think I will use grow bags for tomatoes next year and save my limited bed space for something else. I am still trying to plan things out.

I do have some chard still alive out there. It's covered up for now and I'll see what it looks like when this cold spell clears. I want to see how long it can go.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 13, 2025 02:18 PM (+mUZM)

2 Hi.

Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 02:20 PM (W7XSX)

3 Time to cut back all my runner bean vines. All the pods have been harvested. I got about 5 beans for every bean I planted.

Soon, I will own the runner bean market.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 02:21 PM (8SdDq)

4 Well, winter season has officially begun. The first seed catalog, from Jung, arrived this week. My in the ground gardening is less likely at this age but there is still hope for some container garden veggies. That keeps me focused on reality, at least to a point.

One thing I've noticed is a little more emphasis on heirloom varieties and certified organic seeds. It's a small part of their offerings but still there.

Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 02:24 PM (yTvNw)

5 Commodore of USS Pure Defiance.

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 02:25 PM (LHPAg)

6
I like using grow bags. You can position them where you want.

I grew tomatoes in them one year and they grew very well.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 02:25 PM (3ek7K)

7 That's not a very good return for runner beans in your area. Have you thought about a different strain?

At least you got blossoms, right?

San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 02:21 PM

Posted by: KT at December 13, 2025 02:26 PM (7vIsy)

8 The small NC city we've moved to always tells everyone, the night before, that school will be closed the next day. And being a Southern town, that means 3 snowflakes puts them in snow panic. (I love it here, but cannot shake my NY upbringing were attitudes to snow is concerned.)

Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 02:27 PM (s0JqF)

9 I set up the terrarium and small glass containers for house plants. Using a combination of natural and grow light. This is all an experiment but none of the plants committed suicide the first few days. I'm taking that as a hopeful sign. If nothing else, getting the tiny plants in the containers was fun.

Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 02:30 PM (yTvNw)

10 we have a glaze of ice on everything. Decided not to take the dog to the lake because I didn't want the hassle of clearing off the windshield. Fortunately, he and Mr Trouble are content to just sleep today.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 13, 2025 02:31 PM (+mUZM)

11 Good afternoon Greenthumbs
Might be leaving the leaves I didn't collect yet for warmer weather.
Did notice the Anaheim peppers in my mini greenhouse only were killed off by the frost not much more than a week ago. They certainly survived in there a few frosts.

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 02:35 PM (Ia/+0)

12 The small NC city we've moved to always tells everyone, the night before, that school will be closed the next day. And being a Southern town, that means 3 snowflakes puts them in snow panic. (I love it here, but cannot shake my NY upbringing were attitudes to snow is concerned.)
Posted by: Eeyore

Then you drive on the roads with them and kind of understand why.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 13, 2025 02:36 PM (LjSYW)

13 Remember a couple weeks ago I posted a comment about the lore surrounding "wooly caterpillars" and predicting winter?

The bugs got it right.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 02:36 PM (NwnyJ)

14 Oddly I've got tulips poking out of the ground. I think they think it's spring. Who could blame them though it was almost 80° yesterday. Looks like today will be the same. So unseasonably warm. We should be measuring feet of snow in the mountains but there are barely patches. Ski resorts are almost 100% manmade snow right now.

Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 02:37 PM (5UnvZ)

15 From Boise area: lows 30-46 F, highs 46-63. Our winter air stagnation advisory season has begun.

I raked up some leaves to finish a last leaf bag, Husband took 8 to the local drop-off, and that's it for raking - after this, he'll mow-mulch. The trash got the remaining Siberian Iris leaves.

I mixed up some of my birdseed mix - still have the supplies to make the same amount again. It's been so warm for this time of year, birds haven't been going through the seeds as fast as I expected.

We'll be cutting down our blue spruce Christmas tree out in the backyard, later today. (We planted a row at double density years ago - now we can start harvesting.)

Posted by: Pat* at December 13, 2025 02:37 PM (cA4Kb)

16 Our "feels like" temp is -1 degree.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 02:42 PM (kpS4V)

17 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J3YBkOPR4aI

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 02:43 PM (Kt19C)

18 With the weather report for this winter my gardening activity will be with houseplants. Part of that is propagating from cuttings, or trying to. It seems I just like playing in the dirt if it's seated at a table.

Posted by: JTB at December 13, 2025 02:46 PM (yTvNw)

19 Might get snow here tomorrow morning

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 02:52 PM (Ia/+0)

20 Lovely photos as always; purple thing in the middle, is it eggplant?

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 02:57 PM (k5cxK)

21 Here in East Texas we’re still on the warm side of the front; 67 degrees right now. But weatherman says it’ll be 28 within 48 hours.

All the leaves have turned, my Japanese maples are gorgeous, all orange, red, and burgundy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 03:01 PM (k5cxK)

22 Army- Navy game starting

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 03:02 PM (Ia/+0)

23 I do have some chard still alive out there. It's covered up for now and I'll see what it looks like when this cold spell clears. I want to see how long it can go.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 13, 2025 02:18 PM (+mUZM)


In the end of 2020 I rigged a hoop low tunnel out of various stuff I had around and had swiss chard most of the winter. I had less luck the following year, but we didn't have an ice storm either. I have also used those big sterilite clear plastic totes I got for free since they were broken and useless for storing stuff.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 03:03 PM (rbvCR)

24 I do wish I could figure out the schedule for planting daikon for winter. I figure if they can grow it in South Korea, it should be a snap, here.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 03:04 PM (rbvCR)

25 Go Navy,
Beat Army!

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 13, 2025 03:08 PM (mT+6a)

26 If it’s chard you shouldn’t put it so close to the fire.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 13, 2025 03:10 PM (Khmwc)

27 80 deg and cloudy down here in S America, this was a mast year for the oaks in my yard. acorns galore.

Posted by: DanMan at December 13, 2025 03:11 PM (8uzBS)

28 7 Army 0 Navy

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 03:24 PM (Ia/+0)

29 this was a mast year for the oaks in my yard. acorns galore.
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A term that will not be recognized by all. The bears here rely significantly on acorns. As an aside, Mast General Store, there are several in the area:
https://shorturl.at/pnc2j

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2025 03:25 PM (XeU6L)

30 You need some pigs for all that mast!

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 03:28 PM (rbvCR)

31 *puffs ciggy*

Posted by: The margins at December 13, 2025 03:29 PM (pcnhy)

32 Oaks and their productivity has been the subject of lots of arguments.
Reds tend to be more predictable than whites (at least on my bit of earf) and I have no idea on the evergreen oaks.
When we have a good white oak year, it's usually good deer hunting.

Posted by: MkY at December 13, 2025 03:30 PM (q6tQZ)

33 I did get hoops and row covers but didn't set them up. same thing with my cold frame. am hoping to finally get this set up right come warmer weather

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 13, 2025 03:41 PM (+mUZM)

34 7 Navy - 7 Army

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 03:41 PM (Ia/+0)

35 BTW, any Morons in the KC area need a deer or two?
We're thinning the herd this month.
Archery only.

Posted by: MkY at December 13, 2025 03:41 PM (q6tQZ)

36 Afternoon, all,

A 1943 MGM musical with Judy Garland and Mickey Rooney, Girl Crazy, is on Movies! now. Mickey, a bit of a hell-raiser, is sent out West to a town where "There hasn't been a woman since the Civil War," according to his stern tycoon father. No doubt complications with Judy will ensue.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 03:46 PM (wzUl9)

37 Some pets love NOODles.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 13, 2025 04:01 PM (Khmwc)

38 It's cold and windy outside so all the more joy reading the wonderful gardening thread.

Thank you!

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 13, 2025 05:23 PM (NFX2v)

Two U.S. Soldiers Killed By ISIS Islamist In Syria

2 US Army Soldiers, Civilian Interpreter Killed by ISIS Gunman in Syria

Two U.S. Army soldiers and a civilian interpreter were killed, and three others were injured in an ambush by an ISIS gunman in Syria on Dec. 13, according to the Pentagon and U.S. Central Command.

Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell said in a statement on social media that the attack occurred in the central Syrian town of Palmyra as U.S. forces were conducting a key leader engagement in support of ongoing counter-ISIS and counterterrorism operations.

The new president of Syria, Ahmed al-Sharaa, is supposedly against ISIS, but that is a tactical disagreement. Their overall goals are the same, so this attack, which will be condemned by Syria, is in furtherance of their shared goals of the creation of a worldwide caliphate and the destruction of the West.

And we are in bed with this maniac.

Posted by: CBD at 12:56 PM




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1 Prayers up for the victims.

Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 12:59 PM (W7XSX)

2 Not first

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 12:59 PM (nbLIj)

3 Good. Mirroring No One's sentiment

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 12:59 PM (nbLIj)

4
We need to leave Syria.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 01:00 PM (3ek7K)

5 Called em

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 01:01 PM (nbLIj)

6 Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell said in a statement on social media that the attack occurred in the central Syrian town of Palmyra as U.S. forces were conducting a key leader engagement in support of ongoing counter-ISIS and counterterrorism operations.
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That would probably make more sense if they were with Syrian forces, who also suffered high casualties. As it reads now it sounds like they are just getting ambushed by hostile locals.

IIRC those guys killed in Niger in Trump's first term were with Nigerian forces at the time. The Nigerian Army is pretty hopeless though. Even Wagner can't do much with them. Maybe the "new" Syrian Army is the same.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 01:02 PM (UdiE9)

7 One of Trump's more "unfortunate" decisions was getting involved there.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 01:08 PM (NwnyJ)

8 7 One of Trump's more "unfortunate" decisions was getting involved there.
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Obama's decision, though Trump has quite obviously not reversed it.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 01:09 PM (UdiE9)

9 Willowed due to inability to tell time:

muldoon, the Knights are 6-5, Navy is 9-2. What is the Black Knights' secret weapon here?

Full disclosure - niece is USNA graduate currently serving.

Posted by: Nazdar at December 13, 2025 01:10 PM (NcvvS)

10 Worldwide cinders and ashes. Raze the place into the ground.

Your caliphate will be celebrated in the annals of fake history.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 13, 2025 01:11 PM (1zOXE)

11 To all the participants in the last thread: Thank you for keeping me entertained.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 01:12 PM (fd80v)

12 As I wrote I the last thread, the US stationed 2000 soldiers in Syria in 2014. In June of this year, Trump announced that the US would be cutting back from 8 bases to 1.
The reason they’re there is more complicated than anyone wants to go into.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 01:12 PM (k5cxK)

13 It will all be worth it for the democracy and freedom
we’re bringing to Syria.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 01:13 PM (9iyS+)

14 12
'The reason they’re there is more complicated than anyone wants to go into.'

The only conceivable legitimate reason would be to keep ISIS from returning. And I don't think we're accomplishing that.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 01:14 PM (fd80v)

15 Seems about right. Americans are sacrificing blood and treasure 6,000 miles away in Syria while somali inbred savages are running amok in Minnesota and places like Michigan and New Jerksey can't build minarets fast enough. Remember we have to fight them there so they can come here and go to Cinnabon and molest employees.

Posted by: Clown World at December 13, 2025 01:15 PM (R/m4+)

16 > One of Trump's more "unfortunate" decisions was getting involved there.
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Obama's decision, though Trump has quite obviously not reversed it.
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I think Trump was lauding the "new" Syrian president earlier in his term. This term, not his first.

A president with ties to the Taliban or some other Islamic terrorist outfit. But, not the "worst" of the terrorist outfits to chose from.

Still, a poor decision IMO.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 01:16 PM (NwnyJ)

17 He is a young, attractive, tough guy, this Al-Sharaa fella is.

Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 01:17 PM (2NGiN)

18 Weren't there some generals bragging that they had, ah, 'circumvented' Trump 1.0 orders to get out of Syria?

Posted by: Nazdar at December 13, 2025 01:18 PM (NcvvS)

19 16 American troops haven't left Syria since Obama put them there. Assad only control parts of the country, so we had troops stationed in the Kurdish held areas. There was a major to-do late in Trump's term (or right after it) when officials admitted they had lied about pulling some troops out (though I'm not remembering all the details precisely).

We might be more engaged now with the new government than we were before, but in military terms this isn't a new deployment, just a re-tasking of an existing one.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 01:19 PM (UdiE9)

20 Willowed: been a fun couple days in the Mud Hudson. Three people have been killed in last two days in accidents just south of me on the NYS Thruway. Today three people killed in a murder-suicide in Greene County just north of me. Merry Christmas

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 01:20 PM (D+mpw)

21 To all the participants in the last thread: Thank you for keeping me entertained.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 01:12 PM (fd80v)

Don't tune out just yet. I think the "entertainment" is going to last another thread.

Posted by: Otto Q. Cumber at December 13, 2025 01:20 PM (pcnhy)

22 Willowed: Influencer defined = reach + engagement. Mostly reach.

Posted by: mot at December 13, 2025 01:22 PM (fIPNY)

23 Weren't there some generals bragging that they had, ah, 'circumvented' Trump 1.0 orders to get out of Syria?

.....

Give this man a prize. You are correct, sir.

But certain business ventures and foreign influencers have determined that Syria is of strategic value and no mere elected official,
even the highest one in the land can override their veto.

Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 01:22 PM (2NGiN)

24 After all the poo flinging in the last thread , a shower might be a good idea

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 01:24 PM (D+mpw)

25
The only conceivable legitimate reason would be to keep ISIS from returning. And I don't think we're accomplishing that.
Posted by: Dr. Claw

==============

Next step: why do we want to keep ISIS from returning? Because they'll execute an operation in the US?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 13, 2025 01:24 PM (1N/bM)

26 I wouldn't be surprised to see the Russians funding these attacks in Syria against us. Payback for funding the Ukes

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 01:25 PM (D+mpw)

27 Thank you for keeping me entertained."

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 01:26 PM (XuXeR)

28 And Christmas is coming so keep you heads on a swivel.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 13, 2025 01:26 PM (2WIwB)

29 The only conceivable legitimate reason would be to keep ISIS from returning. And I don't think we're accomplishing that.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 01:14 PM (fd80v

What I’ve been told by a couple guys who had worked over there is that their actual purpose is to protect Chevron’s oil concessions in Western Syria, and they were placed there after Assad’s government became too weak to do so. “Isis” is just a catch all phrase for the renegades, gangs, and clans that make much of Syria a Mad Maxistan right now. Trump is giving support to the new leader because as bad as he is, he’s still better than having the entire place become Libya 2.0

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 01:27 PM (k5cxK)

30 Cue the boardroom meme.

CEO: American soldiers are getting killed in Syria. ideas?

Lackey 1: We could kill everyone in Syria.

Lackey 2: We could install a different Muslim

Lackey 3: We could start a 20 year land war and spend $2 trillion more dollars

Based Employee: Couldn't we just leave?

*thrown out window*

Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 01:27 PM (2NGiN)

31 I would get out of syria, but kill all the right people on the way out.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 01:29 PM (snZF9)

32 Should be raining fire

Posted by: NCKate at December 13, 2025 01:29 PM (uQzkA)

33 29 - if so, my answer would be to let Chevron foot the bill for security. Let them create another Executive Outcomes or Sandline if they don't want to use an existing PMC. Rules of engagement? Geneva Suggestions? Never heard of 'em.

Posted by: PabloD at December 13, 2025 01:31 PM (Epuwl)

34 if so, my answer would be to let Chevron foot the bill for security

That business model doesn't make financial sense for Chevron.

Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 01:33 PM (2NGiN)

35 Sad news, at least there is a adult in the White house to deal with this

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 01:34 PM (Ia/+0)

36 The biggest player in Syria right now is Turkey.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 01:35 PM (sDNVV)

37 I don’t believe there is any actual organized ISiS anymore, But what IS in most of Syria is thousands of homicidally insane people roaming around, kind of like “The hills have Eyes” (middle eastern version)

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 01:36 PM (k5cxK)

38 A nigh-futile appeal, as effective as tears in the rain:

Unfortunately, when a COB deletes a comment, all subsequent comment numbers get decremented. SO, if someone references the deleted comment, or a later one, by comment number, it won't be referencing the intended comment.

(There are perma-links to comments, but they're hidden in the comment-number links, and for tech reasons, often don't cue up if you try to use that URL.)

To be clear, it's usually best to quote-back some relevant bit of the comment to which you're replying, including the commenter nic-name. Tedious, but if you want to be sure, it's about the only way to do it.

Comments which are simply, like, "I agree" might be referencing any previous comment. It's often amusing but oftener confusing, as Li'l Abner might say.

Now, carry on however you wish, as Morons will.

Posted by: mindful webworker - next lecture-- how to link to YooToobs at December 13, 2025 01:36 PM (lbDMw)

39 36
The biggest player in Syria right now is Turkey.
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Exactly. I think it's reason #[insert big number here] why ending the Ukraine War is so critical. Erdogan gets leverage from the West by being (mostly) very pro-Ukraine. As a result, pressure isn't put on him that otherwise would be (like regarding 'migrants' to Europe or controlling his proxies in Damascus.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 01:37 PM (UdiE9)

40 Don't tune out just yet. I think the "entertainment" is going to last another thread.
Posted by: Otto Q. Cumber
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I know, I know...! Let's engage in defensive ad hominem attacks!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2025 01:38 PM (XeU6L)

41 The current Syrian government is far weaker than most seem to realize. And also in defense of Trump trying to work with them - there are no “good” choices in Syria. Only trying to figure out what is the least bad choice.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 01:39 PM (k5cxK)

42 29
'What I’ve been told by a couple guys who had worked over there is that their actual purpose is to protect Chevron’s oil concessions in Western Syria,...'

Chevron isn't much of a rallying point for a military commitment. My understanding of the reason for killing ISIS was because it was destabilizing Iraq and was going to be a new Al Queda.

'Trump is giving support to the new leader because as bad as he is, he’s still better than having the entire place become Libya 2.0'

My memory of Libya was that they killed Qaddafi, temporarily became jihadist and let a flood of migrants through. Which of those are we afraid of with Syria?
They can't kill Qaddafi again.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 01:40 PM (fd80v)

43 38

I agree.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2025 01:40 PM (n9ltV)

44 41 - Yup, and if we want to transition from an idealist, Wilsonian foreign policy to a more realist one (something I devoutly wish for) then we can't refuse to work with someone because of their past. Libya in 2011 was far better off under Gaddafi in spite of his lunatic terrorism in the 1980s than it has been ever since his death.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 01:42 PM (UdiE9)

45 about the gunman:

from the article:

U.S. Central Command said the casualties resulted from an ambush by a lone ISIS gunman, who was engaged by U.S. forces and killed.

Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 01:42 PM (RuTUS)

46 You’re correct the biggest player in Syria is Turkey, and I think the worst possible option would be for Syria to collapse into anarchy to the point where Erdogan would feel free to make it Turkey’s new southern province. And then Israel could be looking at the Turkish Army setting up camp right on its northern border.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 01:42 PM (k5cxK)

47 38
I agree.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 01:43 PM (fd80v)

48 archived site:

https://archive.is/ex7A8

Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 01:43 PM (RuTUS)

49 Comments which are simply, like, "I agree" might be referencing any previous comment. It's often amusing but oftener confusing, as Li'l Abner might say.

Now, carry on however you wish, as Morons will.
Posted by: mindful webworker - next lecture-- how to link to YooToobs
Posted by: mindful webworker - next lecture-- how to link to YooToob
---

Theres them that do and them that don't.
Hard to get people to change there ways.

What gets it long running conversations about 'her' or 'him'. Huh?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 01:47 PM (w5Fg+)

50 38
I agree.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


😄 Just part of the price we pay for not having something awful like Diksuks comments.

Okay, so as one of the troublemaking COBs who create that confusion, how about instead of deleting comments, just blank out the text and nic? (And have Pixy adjust the autobanhammers to do the same.)

Now, carry on however you wish, as COBs will.

Posted by: mindful webworker - like if you disagree at December 13, 2025 01:48 PM (lbDMw)

51 The Israelis should say screw it and carve out a Druze homeland between the Golan Heights and Damascus. The Turks and Erdogan want to recreate the Ottoman Empire by getting land from Syria. Beat them to the punch

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 01:51 PM (D+mpw)

52 43 38

I agree.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2025 01:40 PM (n9ltV)

heh

Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 01:51 PM (RuTUS)

53 Half the fun of this place lies in confusion over the comments.

Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 01:53 PM (5UnvZ)

54
Reformer,

I agree

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 01:54 PM (3ek7K)

55 Sick of this.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 13, 2025 01:54 PM (LjSYW)

56 46 You’re correct the biggest player in Syria is Turkey, and I think the worst possible option would be for Syria to collapse into anarchy to the point where Erdogan would feel free to make it Turkey’s new southern province. And then Israel could be looking at the Turkish Army setting up camp right on its northern border.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Some might say, Erdogan calls that a plan.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 01:57 PM (w5Fg+)

57 If the "lone" Syrian gunman has any ties to any group whatsoever, up to and including the Boy Scouts of Syria, those entire organizations should be wiped off the battlefield.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 13, 2025 01:57 PM (vV6n9)

58 We need to leave Syria.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 01:00 PM (3ek7K)

Either leave, or else turn the place into an explicit colony, and govern with an iron fist. Convert all the muzzies to Christianity at gunpoint, and if they refuse to convert, shoot them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 01:58 PM (npFr7)

59 My grandkids are so funny. Right now they can't fix the ice cream machine because the drum passcode won't work. So there is drumming and complaining coming from the other room that is hilarious.
At least they are getting along.

Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 01:59 PM (5UnvZ)

60 "Syria" is Arabic for "Shit Hole."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 02:01 PM (L/fGl)

61 So much for the getting along part.

Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 02:01 PM (5UnvZ)

62 51 The Israelis should say screw it and carve out a Druze homeland between the Golan Heights and Damascus. The Turks and Erdogan want to recreate the Ottoman Empire by getting land from Syria. Beat them to the punch
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 01:51 PM (D+mpw)

I agree! One of my criticisms of Netanyahu’s government is that they’ve treated this war like some great Bug Hunt where they keep taking out “bad guys, but they’ve refused to make any serious strategic moves that would make the long term situation better. Taking Mt Herman was great, but not really difficult after the official Syrian Army collapsed and everyone ran away from their posts.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 02:01 PM (k5cxK)

63
Right now they can't fix the ice cream machine because the drum passcode won't work.

Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 01:59 PM

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What does this mean?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 13, 2025 02:02 PM (azNOR)

64

muldoon, the Knights are 6-5, Navy is 9-2. What is the Black Knights' secret weapon here?
Full disclosure - niece is USNA graduate currently serving.
Posted by: Nazdar

The Knights no longer have defensive lineman cadet Wilhelm from the late 70s to 81.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 13, 2025 02:03 PM (QVmho)

65 If we would just reach out with love to the rattlesnakes, I'm sure they'd stop being poisonous and biting us.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 02:04 PM (L/fGl)

66 63
'Right now they can't fix the ice cream machine because the drum passcode won't work.


What does this mean?'

It means 'The dog barks at midnight. Await further transmission.'

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 02:05 PM (fd80v)

67 63 Right now they can't fix the ice cream machine because the drum passcode won't work.

Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 01:59 PM

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What does this mean?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 13, 2025 02:02 PM (azNOR)

Thank for this question!

Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 02:06 PM (RuTUS)

68 52 43 38

I agree.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 13, 2025 01:40 PM (n9ltV)

heh
Posted by: m
---

I knew it.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 02:06 PM (w5Fg+)

69 65 If we would just reach out with love to the rattlesnakes, I'm sure they'd stop being poisonous and biting us.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 02:04 PM (L/fGl)

Bears, too.

Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 02:07 PM (RuTUS)

70 What does this mean?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 13, 2025 02:02 PM (azNOR)

The younger one is playing "codes" on my drum set while the older one is complaing that he's not doing the right code so he can fix the imaginary ice cream machine in their pretend cafe.

Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 02:07 PM (5UnvZ)

71 70 What does this mean?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 13, 2025 02:02 PM (azNOR)

The younger one is playing "codes" on my drum set while the older one is complaing that he's not doing the right code so he can fix the imaginary ice cream machine in their pretend cafe.
Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 02:07 PM (5UnvZ)

Cool granddad.

Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 02:08 PM (RuTUS)

72 Cool granddad.
Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 02:08 PM (RuTUS)

I get free imaginary hot chocolate.

Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 02:09 PM (5UnvZ)

73 Taxes are magic.

China Taxes Condoms to Spark a Baby Boom – Protection Now Comes at a Price

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I don't recall my father mentioning this in his birds and the bees talk.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 02:09 PM (L/fGl)

74 Libya in 2011 was far better off under Gaddafi in spite of his lunatic terrorism in the 1980s than it has been ever since his death.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 01:42 PM (UdiE9)

I did enjoy watching Gaddafi get sodomized with that stick after they pulled him out of that storm drain then killed him.

He seemed surprised they would do such a thing.

Posted by: Lindsey Graham, Closeted Homosexual at December 13, 2025 02:10 PM (R/m4+)

75 >>>Either leave, or else turn the place into an explicit colony, and govern with an iron fist. Convert all the muzzies to Christianity at gunpoint, and if they refuse to convert, shoot them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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This could be a new Homeland for all the Islamists in America. It would be theirs to make great again.



Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 02:10 PM (w5Fg+)

76 If the West's refugee policies made any sense, the million or so Syrian military aged men in Germany would have spent the last 3 years in refugee boot camps being trained as a security service to return to their country and impose order there, instead of lounging in hotels.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 13, 2025 02:12 PM (R86kT)

77 73
If China makes abortion as universally available/subsidized as Russia does (and has done since Soviet times) this will just lead to women using abortion as birth control. I have no idea what China's healthcare system looks like though. I'm told that in spite of being "Communist" they have less of a social 'safety net' al la social security than pretty much anywhere outside of the Third World.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 02:12 PM (UdiE9)

78 74 Libya in 2011 was far better off under Gaddafi in spite of his lunatic terrorism in the 1980s than it has been ever since
...

Hillary had him murdered.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 02:13 PM (w5Fg+)

79 I love your face.
_Bear


nom, nom, nom

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 02:17 PM (w5Fg+)

80 Well, it has warmed up here, for some values of "warm up". Gone from 5 below to 5 above on the F scale. And no wind to speak of. Also about 2 inches of fresh snow. I am going to get armored up in the Helly Hansens, and go run the snowblower.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 02:18 PM (npFr7)

81
RIP courageous warriors.

So sad for the families, especially this time of year.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 02:19 PM (3ek7K)

82 Nood gardening

Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 02:20 PM (W7XSX)

83 Hillary had him murdered.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 02:13 PM (w5Fg+)

Had to clear the way for Fiat to buy Dodge and get back into the American market.
And that murder was pretty horrible to watch. Hillary's comments afterward showed what she really is. Anyone who could watch that and say 'we got him' is benieth contempt.

Posted by: Reforger at December 13, 2025 02:21 PM (5UnvZ)

84 According to the Legalinsurrection.com article the 'lone gunman ' was taken out

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 02:23 PM (Ia/+0)

85 If China makes abortion as universally available/subsidized as Russia does (and has done since Soviet times) this will just lead to women using abortion as birth control. I have no idea what China's healthcare system looks like though. I'm told that in spite of being "Communist" they have less of a social 'safety net' al la social security than pretty much anywhere outside of the Third World.
Posted by: the lower depths

Just assume TPTB are lying through their teeth, as usual. Maybe party members get good care. Everyone else - Fuck 'em.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 13, 2025 02:31 PM (LjSYW)

86 It may seem remote but don't think the rest of the world is ignorant about the program for wreaths being placed on U.S. Veterans' graves today, the Army-Navy Game which Trump will be attending, and so on.

I didn't respond in time - yeah, I'm a pita - but I had received pics of young children (yes, one related to me) in a largely special needs Scout troop in GA who are helping place wreaths honoring veterans in a cemetery.

They couldn't be prouder they're now old enough to help, or more respectful in the opportunity to do so.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 13, 2025 03:24 PM (NFX2v)

87 And we are in bed with this maniac.

The guy before him was an eye doctor. Western Educated. Wanted to Westernize Syria. Dressed Western. Talked Western.

But he may or may not have dropped Tear Gas on a riot. You know ... the same stuff I had to sniff during Boot Camp.

And for that - Trump dropped missiles on him during the first go 'round. While everyone here cheered because "Trump". Oh - and CNN gave you film of all the people choking to death while others weren't bothered at all nursing them.

Its a real mystery wrapped in an enigma why nobody in the Middle East trust the United States. A real puzzle.

Posted by: Howdy at December 13, 2025 03:32 PM (ivXYS)

88 Peter Greene, mort at age 60.

Zed's dead, baby.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 13, 2025 03:54 PM (/HDaX)

89

The guy before him was an eye doctor. Western Educated. Wanted to Westernize Syria. Dressed Western. Talked Western.

But he may or may not have dropped Tear Gas on a riot. You know ... the same stuff I had to sniff during Boot Camp.

And for that - Trump dropped missiles on him during the first go 'round. While everyone here cheered because "Trump". Oh - and CNN gave you film of all the people choking to death while others weren't bothered at all nursing them.

Its a real mystery wrapped in an enigma why nobody in the Middle East trust the United States. A real puzzle.
Posted by: Howdy at December 13, 2025 03:32 PM (ivXYS)

this was the main reason he was so weak and nothing could save him, including russia's intervention. it also made him a conduit for iran since he was in no position to refuse them.
his father massacared hundreds of thousands of islamists, but he couldn't do it because "international law" or something.
but i'm serious, there are millions of hardcore islamists in syria now, from all over the world but mainly syria itself. even if Julani reformed (fat chance) he would never be able to contain them.
the only way to contain them is to kill them all.

Posted by: juicer at December 13, 2025 05:29 PM (RDTzD)

90 We need to leave Syria.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 01:00 PM (3ek7K)

Either leave, or else turn the place into an explicit colony, and govern with an iron fist. Convert all the muzzies to Christianity at gunpoint, and if they refuse to convert, shoot them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Back after 9-11 that was a plausible course of action.
And would work because they Grok "convert or die".

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 13, 2025 06:39 PM (/lPRQ)

What is an "influencer" these days?

Moldova-Cultur.jpg

Tiny Moldova may be the second-poorest country in Europe (Britannica) but they have fast internet speeds, a wine industry, and a strong drink museum.

And "influencers", apparently. More on that below, along with some other examples of "influencers". Culture and politics have always involved influencing people. Why, today, do we think in terms of "influencers"?

*

Influencer Studios International

Walter Kirn, commenting on Nick Fuentes:

Told you.

Just another products of Influencer Studios Int'l.

Colin Wright:

A new report from @ncri_io shows that Nick Fuentes's sudden mainstream visibility reflects a coordinated illusion instead of a grassroots surge.

According to NCRI, Fuentes's rise was driven by synchronized amplification networks, anonymous booster accounts, foreign engagement farms, and a media ecosystem that mistook manufactured noise for genuine political momentum.

Details below:

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Influencing Politics and Culture in Moldova

Interesting conversation centered on little Moldova, a country of fewer than two and a half million people (according to Britannica), blessed with good soils and rivers (one named after a drowned hunting dog). Agriculture and a lot of other things were messed up during the Soviet era.

Who are "influencers" mentioned in this conversation? Should we call them "influencers" or something else? I kind of hate that word.

I imagine that a little money does go a long way in Moldova.

* * * * *

Was Lenin an "Influencer"?

Can we think of some better words?

Why Lenin Won

The Red Wheel
by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Reviewed by Gary Saul Morson

A newly translated volume in Solzhenitsyn's Red Wheel series illustrates how revolutionaries seized control of Russia.

April 1917, Book 1, the seventh of eight novels in Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s story of the Russian Revolution, entitled The Red Wheel, portrays three crucial weeks that show why Lenin, with only a handful of followers, triumphed over his rivals. As the novel opens, Tsar Nicholas II has abdicated, and a Provisional Government appointed by the Duma has assumed nominal power. Everything it does must be approved by the Executive Committee (EC) of the Petrograd Soviet (or Council), a group of self-appointed intellectual representatives of the lower classes who can summon intimidating mobs.

Meanwhile, the Russian army, still at war with Imperial Germany, is disintegrating, in part because the Soviet has issued orders eliminating all discipline. Notwithstanding the impossibility of doing so, the Provisional Government, to honor Russia’s alliance with France and Britain, has promised an offensive. Solzhenitsyn portrays the Provisional Government ministers as hopelessly impractical poseurs, who rely on stirring words and dramatic gestures. He quotes a Russian proverb: “A fine gait won’t help a lame chicken.”

Why is the Provisional Government so helpless? . . .

Well, there is not one simple reason, but:

Reasoning that free people don’t require force, the Provisional Government, believe it or not, abolished the police! It also released criminals on condition that they promise to behave, and so initiated a wave of murders and robberies. “Some ask: How do you govern the country?, You don’t even have any police,” Minister of Justice Aleksandr Kerensky paraphrases the obvious question. “But, comrades, we have no need of police, because the people are with us!”

With no means of enforcement, the Provisional Government had to implore people to pay their taxes. Nobody did. Solzhenitsyn quoted one appeal after another—soldiers, don’t desert! sailors, refrain from killing your officers! peasants, please do not seize land!—but the utter failure of rule by uplifting speeches and empty reports only leads to more speeches and more reports. “We have decided to take the most stringent measures,” one minister explains. “I shall appoint a committee of inquiry.”

When the patriotic general Lavr Kornilov at last offers to put his loyal soldiers at the government’s disposal, it reacts with horror. Even while a mob was besieging the unprotected ministers, one of them proudly declares: “No! Even if armed men were to find their way into this room, we should not apply military force to defend ourselves!” Another finds still finer words: “We’d rather sacrifice our own lives than spill a single drop of others’ blood!”

Most pathetic of all is the kindly Prime Minister, Prince Georgi Lvov, who attributes the prevailing chaos “to a single cause. The impossibility of meeting everyone personally, meeting their eyes with a kindly smile.” Using “the quietest of voices … and with one of his most bewitching smiles,” he asks: “Why the drama? Why make relations worse? … Everything will come right in the end.” When it becomes apparent that Lenin’s followers, who have already shot unarmed soldiers, plan to seize power by force, Lvov explains in “dulcet tones” to Minister of Defense Aleksandr Guchkov: “Where Lenin was concerned, the government should not precipitate events, for that might give rise to conflict.”

Anybody find anything in the short segments above that reminds you of anything recent? There's much more at the link that might make some people feel uncomfortable if they were sensible.

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Beyond Counter-Ideology

Gary Saul Morson

Dostoevsky understood that people who defined themselves by ideology were capable of a unique form of evil.

Do today's Marxist college professors like being called "influencers"?

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Ideological influences on America

A well-written essay by Michael Smith to consider this weekend. Read the whole thing at the link.

The Entitlement Machine

Don't stop at the Fantasy Football Analogy

How modern progressivism caters to the worst in human behavior by cultivating outrage, infantilization, and permanent reliance.

Republicans need to recognize that they will always start any election, contest or debate from behind the sticks. It will always be first and fifteen because Democrats have a built-in advantage in elections.
Their policies cater to the worst in human nature. They reward the short term, punish the prudent, and erode the cultural preconditions of a functioning republic: responsibility, restraint, and reciprocity. Policies that indulge negative traits may feel humane in the moment but generate long-term civic fragility—and while the consequences may not be immediate, they are unavoidable.

We can debate whether it is fair or foul to have a federal income tax—and one so steeply progressive that 47 percent of income-earning Americans carry no income-tax liability. But the consequences of such a system are no longer theoretical. When nearly half the population contributes nothing to the cost of federal activity, the incentives shift in ways economists have long understood. People behave differently when they bear no financial stake in the outcomes they support. This is moral hazard dressed up as compassionate governance. . . .

Progressive policy design increasingly caters to four deeply rooted but negative human tendencies: dependency, risk displacement, infantilization, and grievance incentives. These traits are not partisan inventions—they are part of human nature. The divide exists because one side has learned to weaponize them.

Consider the latest fights over health-care subsidies. During COVID, Democrats enacted temporarily enhanced Obamacare subsidies, sold as emergency measures. But once installed, they immediately triggered predictable behavioral dynamics. What critics call “government generosity,” the public experiences as an upgrade in lifestyle. When the pre-COVID baseline was about to be restored, the reaction was not gratitude for the windfall but outrage at its removal.

This is the cycle of hedonic adaptation—people normalize benefits almost instantly—and loss aversion, the principle that losses loom larger than equivalent gains. Withdraw something that was never permanent, and the emotional response is sharper than the pleasure felt when it arrived. These tendencies feed entitlement, the belief that a conditional benefit has become an irrevocable right. The envy that follows—resentment toward anyone perceived to have “more”—becomes political jet fuel.

Of course, during the period of subsidies, health care costs also creep up, making the loss of subsidies scary for lots of folks.

But subsidies are only the surface expression of a deeper architecture of dependency. When government benefits become the central organizing principle of economic life, personal agency contracts. Systems designed to help people end up trapping them, not through malice but through structure: welfare cliffs that punish earnings, housing programs that penalize marriage, college-aid formulas that reward borrowing rather than saving. A constituency stabilized by reliance reliably votes to preserve the system that sustains it.
Layered atop dependency is risk displacement. As the state assumes responsibility for ever more dimensions of life—health care, debt burdens, housing, childcare—individuals rationally outsource decision-making to government. . .

Have the Repulicans got any better ideas?


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Music

Sydney Opera House

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs


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Last week's thread, December 6, Why THIS Story NOW?

Related, h/t J.J. Sefton: To save America, support the American Revolution

Amy Comey Barrett's book, Listening to the Law. 14:30 on the video.

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

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1 What is an "influencer" these days?

$20, same as in town.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 11:16 AM (Kt19C)

2 Good morning KT

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:16 AM (Ia/+0)

3 Oh noes, you might have got me interested back into the Russian Revolution

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:19 AM (Ia/+0)

4
Aren't we all influencers? We just don't get paid, lol.


Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 11:19 AM (3ek7K)

5 >>>Who are "influencers" mentioned in this conversation? Should we call them "influencers" or something else?

Paid shills works for me.

Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 11:20 AM (Y1sOo)

6 I wanted to say something in response to the periodic eruptions of anger revolving around the use of the word "Boomer" here on AoS. I know I can do nothing about actual trolls or people who simply do not want to mature, but if I can help some people, all the better.

First, it is certainly true that Baby Boomers get blamed for things that happened because of other generations. The G.I. Generation, far from being 'great', was credulous and disinterested in cherishing the amazing position it had been gifted by our victory in WW2. Many people in that generation simply wanted to get more out of Social Security than they paid in, as they approached retirement. Many of the worst Congress Critters were and are Silent Gen, like Nancy Pelosi. My generation (Millennials) and Zoomers have lots of lost people who fall into weird traps and trends. Boomers aren't furries or trannies or "Queers for Palestine". Based on this blog, Gen Xers are mostly alright but enjoy bitching and whining too much. Younger people should remember that their generations have not reversed the trends they inherited, and show a little more leniency for older posters on this blog. We all fall short.

Continued

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 11:22 AM (UdiE9)

7 Probably AI taking over

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:22 AM (Ia/+0)

8 2/3
However, there is a strong theme in the Bible that nations and generations are judged for their sins as individuals are. Prophets pray for the Lord to avert his anger at Israel as a nation, even though the prophet himself did not partake in the relevant sins. If Clarence Thomas posted here, I doubt he would sperg out if someone posted a complaint about black crime rates or single-parent families. The ladies here do not have conniption fits when someone (perhaps jokingly?) talks about repealing the 19th Amendment. They rightly note that they and many ladies they know are not AWFLs or karens, but they also admit the truth that if women voted the way men do, the Democrats would be a tiny minority party.

Continued

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 11:23 AM (UdiE9)

9
OT.

Got the sprinkler system winterized. Come spring time, I'll have to dig out the drain valve and replace it as the handle broke in half just as I made the last turn to open it. Now it's broken in the open position. Also need to dig out and replace a zone control valve as the pre-shutdown inspection exposed a cracked body that was leaking.

Now off to read K.T.'s content.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 13, 2025 11:23 AM (QVmho)

10 3/3
Those of us who are younger can see the photos of what America looked like when Boomers were in school. If we're a bit older as I am (I just miss the cut-off for Gen X) we remember G.I. Generation members who were founts of wisdom in old age, even if that generation was not what some make it out to be. Where are the calm and wise Silent and Boomer crowd? No doubt they exist, but even in my neighborhood, people in their 70s and 80s have no wisdom and act rather childish far too often. THIS is I think the root of the instinctive aversive many younger people have for "Boomers". If the person isn't just a troll (and they exist), younger people who feel like everything has gone to shit resent the geezers clinging on to what they have and offering nothing of value in return. For most of human history the elderly were revered, because they had wisdom to impart. I know wisdom exists. I often don't read through comments, but CTRL+F for commenters who impart what I regard as wisdom (Whig is my favorite commenter to follow). Understand that not all Boomer hate is coming from pure malice, and act as a black or female poster would on this blog.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 11:24 AM (UdiE9)

11 Hey, remember newspapers? Remember wire services? Remember television? Movies? Music? Celebrity culture?

The problem a lot of people have today, with "influencers," is that those who influence are no longer concentrated among the Oligarchy of Corporate Media.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:24 AM (WF5qu)

12 We set the standard for "influencers". Who knew how ahead of the curve we were?

Posted by: Macedonian Content Farmer Alliance at December 13, 2025 11:25 AM (oftw2)

13 And of course, a big part of what makes Nick Fuentes so influential today, is because the people being influenced by him have parents and teachers and other members of the "adult" class harumphing at him.

He's trolling you, and your kids love it.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:25 AM (WF5qu)

14 I have some experience with Moldavians. The law abiding ones used to fish for northern pike minnows (aka squawfish), as they had a bounty on them. Made pretty good money at it. We let them tie up on our dock. Really entertaining to introduce them to the state DNR folks, when they came to support us in trying to keep the dock.

The not lawabiding ones wanted to be gangsters. Had one go on a rampage, claiming that he owned our property. The guy with him noticed my gun and convinced his friend to leave. We mentioned this to the lawabiding guys, who sic'ed Mama on him. Never had any issue with them again. It was an interesting time and I hope the good guys are doing all right. I suspect they are.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 13, 2025 11:25 AM (+mUZM)

15 Moldova?



Dolores!!!

Posted by: muldoon at December 13, 2025 11:26 AM (/iMjX)

16 Moldova is a bit bigger than Massachusetts

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:26 AM (Ia/+0)

17 Moldova?



Dolores!!!
Posted by: muldoon at December 13, 2025 11:26 AM (/iMjX)

Helen Hunt?

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:27 AM (WF5qu)

18 How modern progressivism caters to the worst in human behavior by cultivating outrage, infantilization, and permanent reliance.
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The first of the three isn't at all unique to them. You see outrage everywhere including here. While it's been common at all times, I do think it's rising, to late 60s levels.

I have no cure, at least, no secular one.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 11:27 AM (s0JqF)

19 > What is an "influencer" these days?
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Operative question:

"Who pays the "influencers" these days?"

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:28 AM (NwnyJ)

20 According to NCRI, Fuentes's rise was driven by synchronized amplification networks, anonymous booster accounts, foreign engagement farms, and a media ecosystem that mistook manufactured noise for genuine political momentum.

One can test this theorem in person.

If you have 20 and 30-something males in your daily life, be it work, family or church, ask them who Nick Fuentes is. Then ask them who Joe Gruters is.

I think you'll find Nick's name recognition is astronomically higher, and that it isn't all bot farms.

Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 11:29 AM (2NGiN)

21 The Apostle Paul wrote some letters. He has influenced the lives of billions and still does so today.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 13, 2025 11:29 AM (2Ez/1)

22
Multiple US service members injured in Syria ambush attack.

FoxNews

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 11:29 AM (3ek7K)

23 So we just instinctively believe and not question what NCRI, a very left wing group, tells us? Guess who is heavily involved with this non profit? Lynne Cheney, lol.

This is the same group that freaked out about Covid “misinformation” and was all in on shutting up anyone who questioned the narrative. These are the people who see wHiTe sUpReMacY around every corner. It’s run out of NYU and Princeton and was founded in part by a RINO Denver Riggleman who, like Cheney was all in on the J6 “insurrection” bullshit.

But OK they’re totally trustworthy guyz!!

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:29 AM (9iyS+)

24 "Who pays the "influencers" these days?"
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:28 AM (NwnyJ)

Your children do.

Well, you do, if you buy your kids' cell phones.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:29 AM (WF5qu)

25 Maryland is closest to Moldova in size

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:29 AM (Ia/+0)

26 15 Moldova?



Dolores!!!
Posted by: muldoon

I met the real "Mulva" at a party in Duluth, Georgia 20 or so years ago. Seemed like a nice lady.

Posted by: Brush With Greatness at December 13, 2025 11:30 AM (oftw2)

27 Thx K.T.
Influencers began as young women "influencing" people to buy products. Now it's morphed into podcasters like Fuentes , Carlson and Owens. I preferred vacuous hot chicks myself

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 11:30 AM (D+mpw)

28 Dave Horowitz ‘splains a lot of the revolutionary marxist ideas and theory in his book “Radical Son”; some of it I was vaguely familiar with, but a fair amount was not. They definitely get way off into the weeds in lots of areas.

What really surprised me is how so much of it has clearly been mainstreamed and incorporated into the every day atrocities perpetrated on Americans today, the rhetoric and invective, public policy, the Narrative particularly academia and elementary public schools and of course the “news” was captured by the whack jobs long ago.

This country needs an Industrial Enema, stat

Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 11:30 AM (eFKVH)

29 Influencers began as young women "influencing" people to buy products. Now it's morphed into podcasters like Fuentes , Carlson and Owens. I preferred vacuous hot chicks myself
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 11:30 AM (D+mpw)

Ever heard of the Federalist Papers?

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:32 AM (WF5qu)

30 What the hell are US military forces doing in Syria? What is the “compelling national interest” again?

I must have missed the prime time national address from the oval office.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 11:33 AM (eFKVH)

31 This country needs an Industrial Enema, stat
Posted by: Common Tater

Just say when!

Posted by: Follow The Fleet at December 13, 2025 11:34 AM (oftw2)

32
Tater,

I have the same question.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 11:35 AM (3ek7K)

33 Macedonian Content Farmer Alliance at December 13, 2025 11:25 AM

I have a FB friend who post emotional content from a site that proudly proclaims upfront that they are in "North Macedonia". Often exaggerations of content from other sites. For example, not only does a mother abandon her five year old twin daughters for the bright lights before returning for them when they are eighteen, she abandons them when they are blind newborns and their dad teaches them to sew award-winning costumes in their "own little world".

Posted by: KT at December 13, 2025 11:35 AM (7vIsy)

34 You lost me at "strong drink museum."

Posted by: Diogenes at December 13, 2025 11:35 AM (2WIwB)

35 Young ladies start as Influencers then move to Fans Only and lose their Influence

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:36 AM (Ia/+0)

36 Who pays the "influencers" these days?"
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:28 AM (NwnyJ)

Companies who buy ads to be placed on their videos. It’s no different than how tv works. They just cut out a lot of the middlemen.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:36 AM (9iyS+)

37 @29 I'm sure John Jay looked great in a bikini but I still prefer hot chicks

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 11:36 AM (D+mpw)

38 Nothing is real. It’s all fake and ghey in the digital world. AI is shaitan prepping the analog world for antichrist.

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 11:37 AM (fHsz8)

39 A newly translated volume in Solzhenitsyn's Red Wheel series illustrates how revolutionaries seized control of Russia.

The amazing thing about Saint Petersburg is that the historic parts of the city are almost completely unchanged, so you can walk around and see all the places where the key events in the Russian Revolution took place.

Sergey Larenkov came up with a technique (since copied by others) of using a World War II picture taken in Leningrad, taking a picture of modern-day Saint Petersburg from the same location, and combining the two.

The results are often quite moving.

Posted by: Blackadder! at December 13, 2025 11:37 AM (xTIDn)

40
Eromero,

I agree with you.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 11:38 AM (3ek7K)

41 Companies who buy ads to be placed on their videos. It’s no different than how tv works. They just cut out a lot of the middlemen.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

Totally not fair!

Posted by: Man Formerly In The Middle at December 13, 2025 11:38 AM (oftw2)

42 What the hell are US military forces doing in Syria? What is the “compelling national interest” again?

I must have missed the prime time national address from the oval office.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 11:33 AM (eFKVH)

Where don't we have troops?

But then I have to laugh at people getting all worked up about podcasters who talk to Nick Fuentes, when we had the Al Qaeda guy, who used to behead Americans, as a guest in the White House.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:38 AM (WF5qu)

43 Outfits like NCRI are also convinced that Russia stole the 2016 election with Facebook posts.

Lol

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:39 AM (9iyS+)

44 42 What the hell are US military forces doing in Syria? What is the “compelling national interest” again?



Something about fighting them there not here. Or wait no it’s to do contain communism. Wait no it’s to spread freedom and democracy. Yeah that’s the one.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:40 AM (9iyS+)

45 A newly translated volume in Solzhenitsyn's Red Wheel series illustrates how revolutionaries seized control of Russia.

It's amazing that Solzhenitsyn has been dead for seventeen years, and there are still major works of his that have not been translated into English.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 13, 2025 11:40 AM (xTIDn)

46 37 @29 I'm sure John Jay looked great in a bikini but I still prefer hot chicks
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 11:36 AM (D+mpw)

Me too, but the point being, influencers are not a new thing.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:40 AM (WF5qu)

47 Anybody find anything in the short segments above that reminds you of anything recent? There's much more at the link that might make some people feel uncomfortable if they were sensible.

1) Europe
2) GOPe

Posted by: Archimedes at December 13, 2025 11:41 AM (Riz8t)

48 Is this about us?

Posted by: Vacuous hot chicks at December 13, 2025 11:41 AM (2Ez/1)

49
But then I have to laugh at people getting all worked up about podcasters who talk to Nick Fuentes, when we had the Al Qaeda guy, who used to behead Americans, as a guest in the White House.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:38 AM (WF5qu)


Ironically, had the US not poked its nose in every country’s business Nick Fuentes would not be a thing.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:42 AM (9iyS+)

50 What's an NCRI?

Posted by: Ok, I'll ask at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (2Ez/1)

51 >> Who pays the "influencers" these days?"
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:28 AM (NwnyJ)

Companies who buy ads to be placed on their videos. It’s no different than how tv works. They just cut out a lot of the middlemen.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:36 AM (9iyS+)
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In the case of Tucker and his ilk, it's not companies, it's countries like Qatar. Sure, he gets money from endorsing certain products, but the bulk of his monies comes from Qatar.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (NwnyJ)

52 I do remember when Hardees (Carl's Jr) came out with an ad, featuring a chick eating one of their big fat cheeseburgers.

Lots of people were harumphing at that, as it was an obvious attempt by them to poke fun at the idea of hot chicks influencing people to buy stuff.

My problem with it though, is I didn't believe for a second that chick ever ate a big fat Hardees cheeseburger before in her life.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (WF5qu)

53 Only new thing about influencer is the name influencer. They’re just famous people who get paid to say or write things. It’s been happening since forever.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:44 AM (9iyS+)

54 Where are the calm and wise Silent and Boomer crowd? No doubt they exist, but even in my neighborhood, people in their 70s and 80s have no wisdom and act rather childish far too often. THIS is I think the root of the instinctive aversive many younger people have for "Boomers".

It is important to remember that the media amplifies the voices of those with whom they agree. Thus, you can turn on the "news" and see lots of desiccated boomers "protesting" something which, to the average person, makes no sense. Just as during Vietnam, these people are actually a much smaller part of the Boomer cohort than they might seem.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 13, 2025 11:44 AM (Riz8t)

55 What's an NCRI?
Posted by: Ok, I'll ask at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (2Ez/1)


It’s in this post. The group that says Nick Fuentes is all astroturf.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:44 AM (9iyS+)

56 What's an NCRI?
Posted by: Ok, I'll ask at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (2Ez/1)

Nambla Communists of Rhode Island?

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:44 AM (WF5qu)

57 "Sure, he gets money from endorsing certain products, but..."


Hey. We're sitting right here.

Posted by: Relief Factor, Goldline and Food Insurance at December 13, 2025 11:46 AM (2Ez/1)

58 What is an "influencer" these days?"

Hmm. There was a time when payola was a bad thing...

Guess that's over.

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 11:47 AM (XuXeR)

59 In the case of Tucker and his ilk, it's not companies, it's countries like Qatar. Sure, he gets money from endorsing certain products, but the bulk of his monies comes from Qatar.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (NwnyJ)

I didn't think anyone really believed that. I thought it was just a dig at him, because he doesn't support wars in the Middle East.

He did a post the other day, where he was talking about how lovely Qatar is. Which, if you need it explained, was his way of giving the middle finger to all you people who claim he's a Tool of Qatar.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:48 AM (WF5qu)

60 Moldova has a 2 year “digital nomad” visa. Anyone who has a job they can work remotely can live there for 2 years. For us Yanks, there’s not much benefit other than the experience. But for the rest of the world they can live there essentially tax free. The US is one of the few countries that taxes income earned by its citizens even when they live abroad.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:48 AM (9iyS+)

61 I love how anyone who has a different opinion than “the narrative” has to be paid by some nefarious groups. Here’s a crazy idea. Maybe Tucker makes money because what he says is popular with a lot of people? Nah that’s crazy talk. Has to be Qatar money .

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:50 AM (9iyS+)

62 What's an NCRI?"

National Cash Register Incorporated...

Heh

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 11:50 AM (XuXeR)

63 What's an NCRI?

Posted by: Ok, I'll ask at December 13, 2025 11:43 AM (2Ez/1)


It's the same company that claims Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens are also artificially inflated by foreign bot farms.

It's interesting, in itself, that these are the three individuals they chose to focus their study on.

Almost as if it was meant for public consumption to, ironically enough, influence people's perception of the topics that they are discussing.

Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 11:50 AM (2NGiN)

64 Maybe Tucker makes money because what he says is popular with a lot of people? Nah that’s crazy talk. Has to be Qatar money.

Yeah, that's why Tucker is buying a house in Qatar - because he likes the climate.

Qatar spends billions in the United States on a highly successful influence campaign.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 13, 2025 11:52 AM (xTIDn)

65 It's the same company that claims Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens are also artificially inflated by foreign bot farms.

It's interesting, in itself, that these are the three individuals they chose to focus their study on.

Almost as if it was meant for public consumption to, ironically enough, influence people's perception of the topics that they are discussing.
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 11:50 AM (2NGiN)

I'm not going to guess who "owns" this outfit called NCRI, which I never heard of before, but if someone wants to look into it, I bet it won't come as any surprise who's actually behind it.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:52 AM (WF5qu)

66 NCRI obviously never heard of the Steisand effect. Neither have any of the boomers pissing their pants about him.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:53 AM (9iyS+)

67 > What's an NCRI?
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From their X account:

Network Contagion Research Institute

@ncri_io
NCRI is a neutral and independent organization whose mission is to identify and forecast cyber-social threats and report on them in a timely fashion.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:53 AM (NwnyJ)

68 I'm not going to guess who "owns" this outfit called NCRI, which I never heard of before, but if someone wants to look into it, I bet it won't come as any surprise who's actually behind it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:52 AM (WF5qu)

I will say, I bet it's not Moldova.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:53 AM (WF5qu)

69 Oh great. The generation war has started. See y'all later. I'm out.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 13, 2025 11:53 AM (g8Ew8)

70 I'm not going to guess who "owns" this outfit called NCRI, which I never heard of before, but if someone wants to look into it, I bet it won't come as any surprise who's actually behind it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:52 AM (WF5qu)

See my post 23.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:54 AM (9iyS+)

71 > Qatar spends billions in the United States on a highly successful influence campaign.
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They gifted the US President a fucking airplane.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:54 AM (NwnyJ)

72 A quarter of Moldova has declared itself independent, the so called TransDneister Republic. It has a slight Russian plurality in population . If the Ukraine - Russian war continues and the Russians head for Odessa it's believed that they will try and link up. Who'll be the influencers then?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 11:55 AM (D+mpw)

73 Network Contagion Research Institute

@ncri_io
NCRI is a neutral and independent organization whose mission is to identify and forecast cyber-social threats and report on them in a timely fashion.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 11:53 AM (NwnyJ)


Sounds EXACTLY like the Biden Admin's attempt to set up a government agency to weed out misinformation and disinformation.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:55 AM (WF5qu)

74 Oh great. The generation war has started. See y'all later. I'm out."

Yeah, no boobs, music, movies... just "I'm right, no.... I'm right"

Tiresome.

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 11:55 AM (XuXeR)

75 The movie Red (with Bruce Willis) has a humorous reference to Moldova at the end… IIRC the sequel Red 2 has it’s opening scene in Moldova, with bombs raining down on our protagonists… that’s all I know about Moldova

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 13, 2025 11:55 AM (xT8gx)

76 NCRI was started in part by a “Republican” who left the party because it wasn’t pro-gay enough. Lynne Cheney is involved with it. It’s run out of Princeton. It focuses on exposing “misinformation” like oh I dunno anti-vax stuff.

But ok let’s believe what they say. lol.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:56 AM (9iyS+)

77 See my post 23.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:54 AM (9iyS+)

Lynn Cheney, eh?

Well yeah, she would have been on the list.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:57 AM (WF5qu)

78 What's an NCRI?
Posted by: Ok, I'll ask

---
Twenty bucks. Same as in town.

Posted by: It's like I don't even know you people anymore at December 13, 2025 11:58 AM (2Ez/1)

79 See my post 23.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:54 AM (9iyS+)

Lynn Cheney, eh?

Well yeah, she would have been on the list.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:57 AM (WF5qu)

Oh, Lynne, not Liz.

Same rotten fruit from the same rotten tree.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:58 AM (WF5qu)

80 Interesting that the AoS's two main contrarian schticks show up in the same thread at the same time.

Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 11:58 AM (Y1sOo)

81 It’s honesty rather sad that the right which is always skeptical about any “non profit” (as it is should be) jumped on this Nick Fuentes NCRI thing without any skepticism.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:59 AM (9iyS+)

82 "I have been criticized as being a tool of Qatar, and I just want to say – which you already know – which is I have never taken anything from your country and don’t plan to,” Carlson told the PM.

"I am, however, tomorrow buying a place in Qatar. I like the city, I think it’s beautiful, but also to make a statement that I’m an American and a free man and I’ll be wherever I want to be. I have not taken any money from Qatar, but I have now given money to Qatar.”



He's mocking your Qatar, Qatar, Qatar! narrative.

After all, it's not as if they gave him a luxury jet.

Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 11:59 AM (2NGiN)

83 Time to go sit on the main page and wait for a new thread.

Posted by: Otto Q. Cumber at December 13, 2025 11:59 AM (pcnhy)

84 Rhymes with a female body part.

Posted by: Just the punchline at December 13, 2025 12:00 PM (2Ez/1)

85 that’s all I know about Moldova"

Those "eastern European" areas always seemed to be quite tribal, with family/ tribe branches reaching back and forth across the "borders"... supporting these artificial nation states inevitably leads to further conflict...

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:00 PM (XuXeR)

86 Did I say Lynne? Fuck.

I meant Liz.

Yes Liz Cheney is involved with ncri. You guys remember her right? Haha. Yes that’s who wrote this Nick Fuentes report. The group who has Liz Cheney working for them.

Ok really trustworthy source right?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:01 PM (9iyS+)

87 Time to go sit on the main page and wait for a new thread"

Yikes. But these people are of incredible influence. Or something.

Or not.

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:03 PM (XuXeR)

88 Did I say Lynne? Fuck.

I meant Liz.

Yes Liz Cheney is involved with ncri. You guys remember her right? Haha. Yes that’s who wrote this Nick Fuentes report. The group who has Liz Cheney working for them.

Ok really trustworthy source right?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:01 PM (9iyS+)

Is Lynne the gay one? I don't remember. Might be the old coot's wife.

Regardless. The Cheney family is completely irrelevant these days. And good riddance.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 12:03 PM (WF5qu)

89 Lynne is Dick’s widow and the mother of Liz.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:04 PM (9iyS+)

90 . The Cheney family is completely irrelevant these days. And good riddance."

They followed the Bush family lead...

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:05 PM (XuXeR)

91 Follow the thread a X . There are several people who look at the financing of NCRI and it's an interesting mix. That doesn't mean that NCRI is wrong or that Fuentes isn't garbage , but "influencers" on top of influencers can be tricky

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 12:05 PM (D+mpw)

92 Would not shock me if a few tens of millions in USAid money was funneled to ncri as well. If the Cheneys are involved you know there is govt money flowing to it somehow.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:06 PM (9iyS+)

93 Oh great. The generation war has started. See y'all later. I'm out."

Yeah, no boobs, music, movies... just "I'm right, no.... I'm right"

Tiresome.

Posted by: man


*sotto voce*
no wait, come back...

Posted by: Archimedes at December 13, 2025 12:06 PM (Riz8t)

94 I'm not going to guess who "owns" this outfit called NCRI, which I never heard of before, but if someone wants to look into it, I bet it won't come as any surprise who's actually behind it.

I will say, I bet it's not Moldova.




The NCRI was founded in 2018 as a nonprofit organization by psychologist and neuroscientist Joel Finkelstein.

Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 12:07 PM (2NGiN)

95 *sotto voce*
no wait, come back...
Posted by: Archimedes at December 13, 2025 12:06 PM (Riz8t)

Where ya goin'? I was going to make espresso!

Posted by: Blind guy at December 13, 2025 12:09 PM (5xuJ/)

96 *sotto voce*
no wait, come back.."

I'm here. That was dr chop...

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:09 PM (XuXeR)

97 Here is the dog Dee of the “neutral” ncri lol. So so neutral guys.



starts in 2016 at Princeton University, where Finkelstein was pursuing a doctorate in neuroscience psychology. The son of a rabbi, he grew up in Tyler, Texas and was seeking a contemplative, respected career as a university professor immersed in the theoretical research of the human mind.

Then the world intervened.

Finkelstein started noticing that a growing number of his friends, from both ends of the political spectrum, “were going crazy,” as he put it. “Intelligent, reasonable people who I respected … were suddenly embracing hateful identity politics. They were becoming really exclusionary.”

It was not an isolated fluke, he thought, it was happening at a time when the sociopolitical climate in America and beyond was in dramatic upheaval. “I started thinking about it: Trump had just won the presidency. Brexit had just passed. Where did that come from?”

There was one common thread: “I had this hunch that social media had something to do with it,” he said.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:09 PM (9iyS+)

98 Follow the thread a X . There are several people who look at the financing of NCRI and it's an interesting mix. That doesn't mean that NCRI is wrong or that Fuentes isn't garbage , but "influencers" on top of influencers can be tricky
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 12:05 PM (D+mpw)

I was watching a vid the other day, didn't get too far into it, but the topic was that question: How did Nick F become Nick F?

And the gist of what I was seeing was that yes, he's a construct of some kind, propped up in some way by whomever. I sorta lost interest, so I guess I missed out on who or what it was that created Nick Fuentes, but the one thing I did see was how he did about a 180 turn from being an ardent MAGA Trump supporter, to becoming the Internet Troll he is today.

The irony though, as far as I'm concerned, is how so many enemies of the so-called right seem to get ALL this attention from the right, which just makes them bigger.

For example see: Crockett, Jasmine; Cortez, Sandy; and so on and so forth.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 12:10 PM (WF5qu)

99 Where ya goin'? I was going to make espresso"


Frau Blücher!

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:11 PM (XuXeR)

100 he grew up in Tyler, Texas and was seeking a contemplative, respected career as a university professor immersed in the theoretical research of the human mind."

Dude should've started buc-ee's instead.

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:12 PM (XuXeR)

101 Finkelstein and his friends basically saw Trump won and Brexit passed. And they freaked out so they started a “non profit” research group on “online hate” to make sure radical ideas like that never happen again.

Real neutral stuff right? In no way biased.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:12 PM (9iyS+)

102 He did a post the other day, where he was talking about how lovely Qatar is. Which, if you need it explained, was his way of giving the middle finger to all you people who claim he's a Tool of Qatar.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:48 AM (WF5qu)

No! He Is ClEaRlY aN AnTiSeMiTe WhO oNlY lOvEs PuTiN aNd DiRtY aRaBs

--NeoConBoomerInc

I recently read a quip that there are very few actual thinkers who are influential in our culture, and they act to lead their own gangs of influencers to try to get enough air to sway opinion and overawe competition. Most of the noise we hear is tribalism, repeating and amplifying scripts that others have created for them.

There are different factions in the US government, and Tucker is one area, Fuentes is another and Levin is a third.
Tucker's kid is working for JD Vance, and Levin's kid is working for DeSantis IIRC.

Tucker is not playing by the accepted rules, but find me where he is not somewhere within the policy guidelines set out by Trump.
This makes me wonder a bit about DeSantis, though.


Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:12 PM (rbvCR)

103 OT- I thought that this question was handled pretty well from the Bible question website: "Was Jesus a refugee?"

https://tinyurl.com/4d8cut6d

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 12:13 PM (PFs9e)

104 All this political nonsense forced me to cut into my panettone.

I'm not sorry.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 13, 2025 12:13 PM (cYBz/)

105 What knockers!!

Posted by: Gene Wilder at December 13, 2025 12:14 PM (2Ez/1)

106 and they act to lead their own gangs of influencers to try to get enough air to sway opinion and overawe competition. Most of the noise we hear is tribalism, repeating and amplifying scripts that others have created for them."

You just described media/ journalism... save for the late 20th century when they claimed neutrality... but weren't

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:14 PM (XuXeR)

107 Solzhenitsyn's writing confirms something I've wondered about - as horrible is it was, Russia really did deserve a Stalin. He was the natural consequence of the beliefs of their elites.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:14 PM (uWKK8)

108 An nfluncer is the new word for "community organizer" of the 90s, a grifting person with no skills and no real job.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2025 12:14 PM (0N4FZ)

109 The NCRI was founded in 2018 as a nonprofit organization by psychologist and neuroscientist Joel Finkelstein.
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 12:07 PM (2NGiN)

Let's look him up...

"Joel Finkelstein is a psychologist and neuroscientist known for his work in combating hate speech and extremism online."

Okie dokie then.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 12:15 PM (JHYx8)

110 Roll, roll, roll in the hay...

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:15 PM (XuXeR)

111 Last time I checked, Boomers killed more commies than any other generation.

Which is why they get all the hate.

Posted by: Zombie Leonid Brezhnev, Sexy Eyebrows And All at December 13, 2025 12:15 PM (R/m4+)

112 What knockers!!
Posted by: Gene Wilder at December 13, 2025 12:14 PM (2Ez/1)

Sankyou, doctor!

Posted by: Terri Garr at December 13, 2025 12:16 PM (5xuJ/)

113 Anyone who thinks NF just happened one day is missing the story. He’s been around for 10 years. He didn’t just come out of nowhere. He’s also been banned by every mainstream platform until X allowed him back in. YouTube still has a ban on him. He was also debanked and put on the no fly list. Ya think he might be a little spicy over that?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:16 PM (9iyS+)

114 Finkelstein and Jesus?

No. Lord and tailor.

Posted by: Another punchline at December 13, 2025 12:16 PM (2Ez/1)

115 But the RC church in MA still has the anti ICE display up even after the Bishop told the rector to remove it. National Catholic register site:

https://tinyurl.com/4xm27mbx

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 12:16 PM (PFs9e)

116 You know, Burt, It's Go Time and Doubting Thomas would look less like third worlders getting paid by the post if they were actually responding to anyone. Instead it's just one post after another saying the same thing over and over. We get it. You don't like the source of the purported information on Fuentes. Shut up already.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:17 PM (UdiE9)

117 An nfluncer is the new word for "community organizer" of the 90s, a grifting person with no skills and no real job.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2025 12:14 PM


*influencer*.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 13, 2025 12:17 PM (0N4FZ)

118 10 3/3
...
Understand that not all Boomer hate is coming from pure malice, and act as a black or female poster would on this blog.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13,
_______
That is mostly OK, but my problem, as a Boomer who has often been denounced as "a traitor to my generation" is simply inaccuracy. The usual charges against the Boomers are simply things we were never responsible for. Unless you mean swallowing uncritically what our elders told us. THAT is a true charge.

The claim that the Boomers were "following a different drummer", or too nonconformist is 180 degrees from reality. Most were just sheep. And egotistic, greedy sheep. I figured this out fairly early, and in college took to wearing a coat and tie to class. It's fun being lectured for conformity while being the only one in the room dressed like that.

But really it is true that the bad ideas attributed to the Baby Boom were thought up by our elders. We just swallowed them whole.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 12:17 PM (s0JqF)

119 NCRI is the online version of SPLC.
Both are far left organizations that target anyone who questions left wing orthodoxy.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:17 PM (9iyS+)

120 You know, Burt, It's Go Time and Doubting Thomas would look less like third worlders getting paid by the post if they were actually responding to anyone. Instead it's just one post after another saying the same thing over and over. We get it. You don't like the source of the purported information on Fuentes. Shut up already.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:17 PM (UdiE9)

Ok Boomer.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (9iyS+)

121 103 OT- I thought that this question was handled pretty well from the Bible question website: "Was Jesus a refugee?"

https://tinyurl.com/4d8cut6d
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 12:13 PM (PFs9e)
Good catch, Fenelon!

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (fHsz8)

122 Got into a little tuff with a Russian on miniature forum. Brought up Gulag Archipelago and he swears Solzhenitsyn was a KGB stooge and his writing is fake.

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (Ia/+0)

123 No. Lord and tailor.
Posted by: Another punchline "

"Tiffany? I'm glad for your sake it wasn't Van Cleef and Arpel"

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (XuXeR)

124 Tucker is not playing by the accepted rules, but find me where he is not somewhere within the policy guidelines set out by Trump.
This makes me wonder a bit about DeSantis, though.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:12 PM (rbvCR)

Tucker saying, as he repeated again just this last week, that any Christian who supports Israel and who thinks of themselves as a zionist is Evil, is NOT within the guidelines of anything Trump has ever said or supported.
Tucker saying that Maduro deserves our support is not within the guidelines either, and neither is Tucker saying that it is illegal for the US to be taking out poor innocent fishermen on the high speed drug boats.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (uWKK8)

125 116 You know, Burt, It's Go Time and Doubting Thomas would look less like third worlders getting paid by the post if they were actually responding to anyone. Instead it's just one post after another saying the same thing over and over. We get it. You don't like the source of the purported information on Fuentes. Shut up already.

Damn, busted.

I hope I don't get fired by my Qatari bot farm for blowing my cover.

Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 12:19 PM (2NGiN)

126 Ok Boomer.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (9iyS+)

Ok stoner.

Posted by: Old Boomer at December 13, 2025 12:20 PM (5xuJ/)

127 "Joel Finkelstein is a psychologist and neuroscientist known for his work in combating hate speech and extremism online."

Okie dokie then.
Posted by: BurtTC

Totally non-biased, neutral, non-partisan guy huh? 🤣

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:20 PM (9iyS+)

128 He also brought up Katyn murders were caused by the German Nazis so that was the end of that discussion

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 12:20 PM (Ia/+0)

129 13 And of course, a big part of what makes Nick Fuentes so influential today, is because the people being influenced by him have parents and teachers and other members of the "adult" class harumphing at him.

He's trolling you, and your kids love it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:25 AM (WF5qu)
_______
Absolutely. I remember talking to friends in the 70s about this. We realized that, when we got old, youngsters would start praising Nazis and the Klan, because when you're young, "Let's shock Grandma" is the Prime Directive.

The question is when does it become serious. One thing is already serious: Who dares shock the Imam?

Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 12:20 PM (s0JqF)

130 I hope I don't get fired by my Qatari bot farm for blowing my cover.
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 12:19 PM (2NGiN)

Hey I have a question about my paycheck. Do you know who I should call? Is it Ahmed in HR or Mohammed in Operations?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:21 PM (9iyS+)

131 Damn, busted."

Johnstown?

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:21 PM (XuXeR)

132 It's fun being lectured for conformity while being the only one in the room dressed like that.
Posted by: Eeyore

"You're just giving in to 'The Man', man. . . "

Posted by: Tonypete at December 13, 2025 12:21 PM (cYBz/)

133 Who dares shock the Imam?"

The monkey?

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:22 PM (XuXeR)

134 120

Got you, you SOB. I posted on this very topic earlier in this thread (quite extensively). If you actually read comments like a normal person on this blog, you'd know that I am not a Boomer and don't even think like one.

What shit hole country do you post from? You haven't mentioned sex, so I'm leaning against India. You're a bit too grammatical for Nigeria. Probably a Gulf State then.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:22 PM (UdiE9)

135 I think I am just going to post this every time someone starts talking about boomer hate

Boomers got told the world was screwed but they were going to be ok
GenX got told the world was doomed and they were screwed
Millennials got told they were screwed
GenZ got told that people are being brought in specifically to screw them

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:23 PM (rbvCR)

136 136,

That's a lot of screwing.

Or, we're all screwed!

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:24 PM (XuXeR)

137 So be it. I get it. Change is hard. I would gently request people here keep an open mind, and when you see an opinion you don't like, hurl an insult or two if you want, but recognize that this is not a monolithic echo chamber. The AoSHQ is a special place, in large part because people do NOT have to agree with each other.
Posted by: BurtTC

Sounds like something a Nigerian bot would say. 😀

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:24 PM (9iyS+)

138 35 Young ladies start as Influencers then move to Fans Only and lose their Influence
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:36 AM (Ia/+0)
______
Does that mean "influence" = "virtue"?

Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 12:24 PM (s0JqF)

139 Hey I have a question about my paycheck. Do you know who I should call? Is it Ahmed in HR or Mohammed in Operations?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:21 PM (9iyS+)



I'd call Ahmed, but don't forget the memo they sent out last week.

They are still withholding our jizya the rest of this year. The new No Tax on Dhimmis rule doesn't take effect until January 1.

Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 12:25 PM (2NGiN)

140 I don't think Trump likes foreign wars. Nothing he has said or done indicates that he likes anything that kills people.
Unlike Trump, though, Tucker doesn't have responsibility for any promise made or have the backlash if he decides to make a hard stop

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:25 PM (rbvCR)

141 in large part because people do NOT have to agree with each other."

Nuh huh. Die Hard IS a Christmas movie.

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:26 PM (XuXeR)

142 OT

Fen ask your son to go to indeed and search for "Rutgers Laboratory Research Assistant".

There are also postings for other research assistant positions at Rutgers

Posted by: pawn at December 13, 2025 12:26 PM (EMg+d)

143 139 Does that mean "influence" = "virtue"?
----------------
No, but to have influence you have to at least fake virtue. Having your nudes and/or sexual activity all over the net makes it impossible for people to take you seriously.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:26 PM (UdiE9)

144 Boomer is a mentality not necessarily an age. It’s the mentality of I got mine and fuck you, you’re on your own. And also a lack of curiosity about anything outside their immediate circle of influence as well as the inability to accept new information that goes against their perceived views.

See for example ncri. All the evidence presented that shows it’s a far left wing group, but it doesn’t matter. NF is a bad guy therefore if ncri says he’s a bad guy and I think he’s a bad guy then ncri must be correct.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:27 PM (9iyS+)

145 126 Ok Boomer.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (9iyS+)

Ok stoner.
Posted by: Old Boomer at December 13, 2025 12:20 PM (5xuJ/)
This is a textbook example of ‘divide and conquer’.
Boomer here with friends among every generation since 1949. Be better, people. America, civilization, and our lives are at stake here.

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 12:27 PM (fHsz8)

146 Posted by: pawn at December 13, 2025 12:26 PM

You are so kind. I will tell him. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 12:28 PM (PFs9e)

147 sexual activity all over the net makes it impossible for people to take you seriously."

Hmm. So, people should take me very, very seriously then...

Or not.

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:29 PM (XuXeR)

148 None of Trump's supporters support "foreign wars". That's one of the main distinctions between us and the existing Deep State, which wanted Endless War Forever around the world. Where does Trump have troops actually risking casualties today?

But there are still international situations that are hugely corrosive to the world, and as the leading power in the world either the US addresses it or it continues to fester until it comes to our borders. Venezuela is a blight on the hemisphere that should have been taken care of 2 decades ago, but no one ever tried. Trump is not risking any soldiers, and any who understand what he's doing will understand why Maduro's government will soon fall, solving a host of bad situations simultaneously. Trump is not sending troops to war in Ukraine, and he is not sending them to war in the middle east. He has a far more rational and supportable policy than anything the US has done since Reagan was President.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:29 PM (uWKK8)

149 America, civilization, and our lives are at stake here."

Careful, you'll give our beloved host a swelled head...


Oh. Thought you meant "here", as in... here.

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:30 PM (XuXeR)

150 I've been commenting here more than 20 years. Go back and look for my nic.

Yours is a nic I've never seen before.

Who's paying you, asshole.
----------------------------
I've posted on the same threads as you for quite some time. And the length of time you posted here isn't evidence of anything. No one is claiming that Tucker got paid by Qatar for his entire career. It is interesting that you and the other contrarians disappear for lots of threads and then all show up en masse to spam on this thread on a Saturday.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:31 PM (UdiE9)

151 You know, I believe KT might have started a tiff...

Hope it doesn't become a donnybrook...

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:33 PM (qTiDB)

152 Tucker saying that Maduro deserves our support is not within the guidelines either, and neither is Tucker saying that it is illegal for the US to be taking out poor innocent fishermen on the high speed drug boats.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (uWKK


and Levin calling for the death of all arabs is within the guidelines, or silencing of his competition is?

Be very careful that you don't start down the path of "everyone who disagrees with me is a Nazi" because that is copyrighted by the Left, and you will have to pay them royalties.
And you will be proving that ass James Lindsay with his "woke right" jackassery to be right.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:33 PM (rbvCR)

153 There are times when foreign intervention is needed.

Syria though? What the actual fuck. There is ZERO justification for American troops to be there. Less than zero in fact.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:33 PM (9iyS+)

154 Ok, that's weird... hash just changed...

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:34 PM (XuXeR)

155 I changed my linked in profile picture of me to one taken when I had an old fashioned mustache and muttonchops, posing with a llama who wore it much better than I did. I also changed my job description to "Digital content creator, Influencer and self-employed consultant, Consultant." I get even more messages telling me I'd be perfect as a board member of some company in India or the Ukraine ....

Posted by: JML at December 13, 2025 12:37 PM (ZAkHP)

156 Two things blew up Nick’s popularity this year. Trump not releasing the Epstein files initially and bombing Iran. Those two things which happened in close proximity to each other made a lot of young Trump supporters say fuck it I’m out. And NF was the conduit for their anger.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:37 PM (9iyS+)

157 interesting that you and the other contrarians disappear for lots of threads and then all show up en masse to spam on this thread on a Saturday.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:31 PM (UdiE9)

Interesting that you take the time to track who posts what and when. Get a life my dude.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:38 PM (9iyS+)

158 158

I have a job, you dimwit.

I work.

What's "interesting" to you is of no concern to anyone, including your mother.

Whose nudes are all over the internet.

And I banged her, champ.

Deal with it.
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Speaking of Boomerish behavior . . .

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:38 PM (UdiE9)

159 So, I guess my question about the Fuentes/NCRI issue is this; is the analysis NCRI did reflective of how Fuentes became popular all of a sudden?

I get that he's been around. I first heard of him within the last couple months. And I'm no slouch to this sort of stuff.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 12:38 PM (NwnyJ)

160 Syria though? What the actual fuck. There is ZERO justification for American troops to be there. Less than zero in fact.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:33 PM (9iyS+)

Fact check - America has had troops in Syria since 2014, supposedly to keep down ISIS but mainly to protect Chevron's oil concessions. (no one ever likes to talk about that part) In June of this year, Trump announced that his administration is going to cut the Syrian presence down from 8 US forward bases to just 1.

Yes, it should be zero but on this Trump is still better than any other President since Reagan.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:39 PM (uWKK8)

161 >>It is interesting that you and the other contrarians disappear for lots of threads and then all show up en masse to spam on this thread on a Saturday.

You noticed that too, eh? So did I. In fact, see my #80.

Happens during the week, too. Suddenly, "both" of them show up at once and soon start blowing each other, just as they have in this thread.

Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 12:39 PM (Y1sOo)

162 There are two kinds of people in the world; charming and tedious.

Posted by: Oscar Wilde at December 13, 2025 12:39 PM (W7XSX)

163 There are two kinds of people in the world; charming and tedious.
Posted by: Oscar Wilde at December 13, 2025 12:39 PM (W7XSX)


Charming people seem to care about what you are interested in; tedious people care about what they are interested in.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:41 PM (rbvCR)

164 Well, this thread has gone South pretty quickly. Uggh

Have a better day everyone.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 12:41 PM (7RYym)

165 So, tell me about your day, did you do anything interesting?

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:42 PM (rbvCR)

166 166 There are two kinds of people in the world; charming and tedious.
Posted by: Oscar Wilde at December 13, 2025 12:39 PM (W7XSX)

For some reason this reminded me of this: It takes far more muscles to frown than to smile, but it doesn't take any at all to just sit there with a stupid look on your face.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:42 PM (uWKK8)

167 165

It's possible they do it for free. Maybe they jack off to furry porn on the same Discord until they get summoned here.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:42 PM (UdiE9)

168 Is Nick Fuentes popular?

I never heard of him before a month ago and I have never read anything he said or wrote. I don't care about Tucker Carlson anymore either.

Tedious.

Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 12:42 PM (W7XSX)

169 Please don't give me "the treatment." Anything other than "the treatment."

lol

Putz..

Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 12:42 PM (Y1sOo)

170 I get that he's been around. I first heard of him within the last couple months. And I'm no slouch to this sort of stuff.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 12:38 PM (NwnyJ)

The Groyper wars were several years ago. He’s been a thing for a while. He had a long public feud with Charlie Kirk for I want to say 2 years or so. He’s been out there. But his audience is actual 29 years olds, not the AoS 29 year olds.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:43 PM (9iyS+)

171 165
'Happens during the week, too. Suddenly, "both" of them show up at once and soon start blowing each other, just as they have in this thread.'

Counterpoint: I pop in only from time to time because of work. Burt and MooMoo are practically always here.

I do wish they'd stop blowing each other.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 13, 2025 12:43 PM (fd80v)

172 Need to sentence all influencers to Moldova, then blow up their Internet.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 13, 2025 12:44 PM (RQW+z)

173 >>Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:33 PM (qTiDB)

Thinking it's escalated to a fracas.

Posted by: Nazdar at December 13, 2025 12:44 PM (NcvvS)

174 Just seeing that two U.S. servicemembers were killed in an ambush in Syria. More wounded. No details.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 13, 2025 12:45 PM (vV6n9)

175 Weird timing. I just started reading "The Gulag Archipelago" this past week. Now I will be looking a little closer at what Solzhenitsyn is saying from the "double voicing" perspective.

Posted by: Crabby Appleton at December 13, 2025 12:46 PM (JcXec)

176 Don't flatter yourself, numbnuts. Attention whores crave attention. I give it to you.

Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 12:46 PM (Y1sOo)

177 Happens during the week, too. Suddenly, "both" of them show up at once and soon start blowing each other, just as they have in this thread.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 12:39 PM (Y1sOo)

Oh
My
God

Two people who share the same views post at the same time when the topic is interesting to both of them. Damn dude you got us. We’ve been exposed as Bangladeshi bots.

You’ve perfectly exemplified textbook Boomerism. Do you really not have the ability to accept that not everyone thinks like you? Holy fuck man.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:46 PM (9iyS+)

178 167
169

"I fucked your Mom!"
"I'm a fucking stud!"

This is good evidence for what I was (politely) alluding to earlier about older generations not imparting wisdom, but behaving childishly. I know 11 year olds used to talk like this on multiplayer servers, but the only other people I know who talk like this are older (and generally overweight) know-it-all guys at least 55 or older. It's off-putting in person and hilariously out of place on forums and comment threads.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:46 PM (UdiE9)

179 You noticed that too, eh? So did I. In fact, see my #80.



It's interesting that two individuals that have new nics that don't capitalize any of the words in their nics show up at the same time on the same thread calling BurtC who has been here 20 years a bot.

The other odd thing is that the only ones that seem to have been openly outed for paying people $7,000 k per post and that call meetings with Tim Poole and other influencers to discuss narratives aren't from Qatar, but from some other country over there in the Middle East.

Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 12:47 PM (2NGiN)

180 2 hours and 15 minutes until the Black Knights of the Hudson initiate destruction sequence on the US Naval Academy Squids.

Prepare accordingly.

Posted by: muldoon at December 13, 2025 12:48 PM (/iMjX)

181
Hi! How's everyone today?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 12:48 PM (tgvbd)

182 Another week, another lawsuit.
A preservation group is suing Trump over the White House Ballroom demolition. Unfreaking real.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 13, 2025 12:48 PM (5xuJ/)

183 GO ARMY, BEAT NAVY! (Loser goes to Venezuela)

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 13, 2025 12:49 PM (vV6n9)

184
Army, Navy, Marines and Coast Guard family. We will be happy with whoever wins.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 12:50 PM (3ek7K)

185 Two options

1. Young people have had it with Americans sending money to foreign countries and endless wars and NF is an outlet for that viewpoint.

2. It’s all bots and everyone actually loves endless wars and can’t wait to invade Iran and Venezuela.

Hmm which is more likely?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:50 PM (9iyS+)

186 A new report from @ncri_io shows that Nick Fuentes's sudden mainstream visibility reflects a coordinated illusion instead of a grassroots surge.

I've been saying this ever since the right started losing its shit over this twerp. It's an op, and, as usual, the internet is fake and gay.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 13, 2025 12:51 PM (GvesS)

187 179

Of the four people I'd refer to as contrarians on this thread, you are literally the only one I have never seen before.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:51 PM (UdiE9)

188 It’s time for pie and coffee break.

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 12:52 PM (fHsz8)

189
I saw a headline a few days about an interview Fuentes did.

He said he's a virgin and some stuff about women.

I didn't read the article cause I don't care.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 13, 2025 12:53 PM (3ek7K)

190 121 103 OT- I thought that this question was handled pretty well from the Bible question website: "Was Jesus a refugee?"

https://tinyurl.com/4d8cut6d
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 12:13 PM (PFs9e)
Good catch, Fenelon!
Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 12:18 PM (fHsz
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The flaw with that account is (as is common today) its assumption that the Roman Empire was a unity. It wasn't. In those days, Judea was a vassal state, while Egypt had been actually taken over. We tend to assume uniformity under a given rule. That hasn't been the historical norm.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 12:53 PM (s0JqF)

191 I've been saying this ever since the right started losing its shit over this twerp. It's an op, and, as usual, the internet is fake and gay.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 13, 2025 12:51 PM (GvesS)
El Rushbo was botted. This bot snottin’ is nothing nes.

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 12:55 PM (fHsz8)

192 Nothing is real. It’s all fake and ghey in the digital world. AI is shaitan prepping the analog world for antichrist.

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 11:37 AM (fHsz

Absolutely this. I watched this vid on you tube last night about the harley twin cam engine. Its the biggest pile of shit lying off the wall misinformation I ever saw packaged as something serious. I worked on at least a 100 of these motors so I could see through the bullshit, but the average person wouldn't have a clue. It was a complete fantasy. They showed motors that weren't even harley, or actually harley engines they haven't made in 50 years. They claimed seal failures in areas that don't even have frigging seals, and never fail to start with, and on and on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5KBH7WwZk8

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 12:55 PM (snZF9)

193 His interview with Piers Morgan was hilarious. Piers called him an incel. And then the groypers dug around and found all sorts of material about his wife admitting she fucks other guys on the side and can’t stand to be around Piers. Poor Piers I almost (almost) felt sorry for the fucker.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:55 PM (9iyS+)

194 The flaw with that account is (as is common today) its assumption that the Roman Empire was a unity. It wasn't. In those days, Judea was a vassal state, while Egypt had been actually taken over. We tend to assume uniformity under a given rule. That hasn't been the historical norm.
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Right, but if the Bible had wanted to make some sort of "all refugees welcome" point, then the Lord would have instructed Joseph to take the Holy Family to Parthia. As it is going from Judea to Egypt was like going from Bechuanaland to a directly ruled British colony, or from the Marshall Islands to Hawaii.

So I guess we should welcome in refugees from those tiny Pacific island nations we have Free Associated status with. Given that they collectively have 100k or so people, I don't think that will be a big deal.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:56 PM (UdiE9)

195 Muldoon glad you reminded me
No dog in the fight but like to watch it

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 12:57 PM (Ia/+0)

196 How's everyone today"

Peachy! You?

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 12:58 PM (XuXeR)

197 Nood.

Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 12:59 PM (W7XSX)

198 Was that "the treatment?" A mom joke stolen from the 90s internet?

lol

Putz..

Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 12:59 PM (Y1sOo)

199 144 Boomer is a mentality not necessarily an age. It’s the mentality of I got mine and fuck you, you’re on your own. And also a lack of curiosity about anything outside their immediate circle of influence as well as the inability to accept new information that goes against their perceived views.

See for example ncri. All the evidence presented that shows it’s a far left wing group, but it doesn’t matter. NF is a bad guy therefore if ncri says he’s a bad guy and I think he’s a bad guy then ncri must be correct.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 12:27 PM (9iyS+)
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Incoherent.
1. It makes "boomer" a useless term, whereas if used for a specific generation, it has a use.
2. The latter part is worse. It is in fact correct to say that, if Stalin says the sky is blue, then Stalin is correct, if only on this one point.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 01:00 PM (s0JqF)

200 Fuentes is probably a operative like many Leftists do to make Conservatives into a scape goat

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 01:00 PM (Ia/+0)

201 I guess we be nood.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 01:00 PM (s0JqF)

202 NOOD. Syria is asshoe...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 13, 2025 01:00 PM (nbLIj)

203 Doesn't Navy generally win?

Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 01:00 PM (W7XSX)

204 Story Piers Morgan told LONG ago, on UK political party conferences:

Party conferences are wonderful things. All those drunken, vile, backbiting, hypocritical, sneering, self-interested, amoral creeps together in one heaving cesspit. And that's just the journalists. It's the one time every year when politicians confirm with their own eyes that the fourth estate, which so loves to expose their ghastly peccadillos, is just as ghastly as they are. My first conference was the Tories at Bournemouth in 1994. The News of the World, under
my new editorship, had recently exposed Alan Clark's affair with that judge's cover, and I arrived to find him haranguing
some of my executives in a disturbingly animated way. 'Alan,' I said firmly, 'I'm Piers. You can either punch me or buy me a pint.' He stared, bemused yet intrigued, for 20 seconds. 'Right, pint first, punch almost certainly later.' (cont)

Posted by: Nazdar at December 13, 2025 01:01 PM (NcvvS)

205 192 Nothing is real. It’s all fake and ghey in the digital world. AI is shaitan prepping the analog world for antichrist.

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 11:37 AM (fHsz

Absolutely this. I watched this vid on you tube last night about the harley twin cam engine. Its the biggest pile of shit lying off the wall misinformation I ever saw packaged as something serious. I worked on at least a 100 of these motors so I could see through the bullshit, but the average person wouldn't have a clue. It was a complete fantasy. They showed motors that weren't even harley, or actually harley engines they haven't made in 50 years. They claimed seal failures in areas that don't even have frigging seals, and never fail to start with, and on and on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5KBH7WwZk8
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 12:55 PM (snZF9)
Side bar ewe tutes are 100% lies. Especially .military-themed.

Posted by: Eromero at December 13, 2025 01:01 PM (fHsz8)

206 Well, my job is done.

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 01:01 PM (XuXeR)

207 When the pre-COVID baseline was about to be restored, the reaction was not gratitude for the windfall but outrage at its removal.

Speaking of COVID...

DC_Draino @DC_Draino

They kicked combat veterans out of the military for refusing the Covid vax.

They fired nurses and firefighters, people who they called heroes just months before.

Families were ripped apart at the holidays.

And for what?

A drug that now has an FDA black box warning because it can kill you?

People need to go to jail.

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper

BREAKING: FDA intends to put a ‘black box’ warning on Covid-19 vaccines, CNN reports

The ‘black box’ is the most serious type of warning, which highlights major risks such as serious side effects and restrictions.

X: https://bit.ly/4oThblh

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 13, 2025 01:01 PM (P5BPp)

208 194 The flaw with that account is (as is common today) its assumption that the Roman Empire was a unity. It wasn't. In those days, Judea was a vassal state, while Egypt had been actually taken over. We tend to assume uniformity under a given rule. That hasn't been the historical norm.
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Right, but if the Bible had wanted to make some sort of "all refugees welcome" point, then the Lord would have instructed Joseph to take the Holy Family to Parthia. As it is going from Judea to Egypt was like going from Bechuanaland to a directly ruled British colony, or from the Marshall Islands to Hawaii.

So I guess we should welcome in refugees from those tiny Pacific island nations we have Free Associated status with. Given that they collectively have 100k or so people, I don't think that will be a big deal.
Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 12:56 PM (UdiE9)
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Despite the Nood, I have to point out that you seem to have a problem reading more into people's words than they actually say. Work on it.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 13, 2025 01:02 PM (s0JqF)

209 "Influencers" = "Fetchers"? Ad Men? Hucksters?
"Internet Carnie"?

There has to be a word more reflecting the low nature of the "job."

Posted by: LASue at December 13, 2025 01:03 PM (UwBs6)

210 Piers, continued:

Eight pints later, he'd decided on his legal settlement. 'For the distress you've caused my wife, 10,000. For the distress you've caused me, 10,000. And for the distress you've caused my sons, 20,000. I can't look them in the face after you said I flashed my knob at gay parties.' I considered my position. 'Well, that's a bit on the pricey side, Alan. I've got a better idea. You give me 50,000, and we won't disclose the other nine women who've told us they
had affairs with you.' Long pause. 'Nine women .. God .. what were their names?'

Posted by: Nazdar at December 13, 2025 01:03 PM (NcvvS)

211 Afternoon.

Fuentes? Buying engagement? I'm shocked. Shocked!

Okay, not that shocked.

But 22year old college graduates aren't making high six figures in Fortune 500 companies and bedding down two new omen every night do that just proves we need to listen to that smarmy little faggot for...reasons.

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 13, 2025 01:06 PM (jVp5w)

212 Despite the Nood, I have to point out that you seem to have a problem reading more into people's words than they actually say. Work on it.
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The original linked article concluded that Jesus was not a refugee because he never left the Roman Empire.

You noted (correctly) that Judea and Egypt were not both states as the author's comparison assumed.

I noted that Jesus would have been a refugee in the way the word is used now only if he had moved into an entirely different country, like Parthia.

Now you are butthurt. I'm not sure what your issue is either. I guess I should just not respond to in the future, like Burt and his crowd.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 01:08 PM (UdiE9)

213 muldoon, the Knights are 6-5, Navy is 9-2. What is the Black Knights' secret weapon here?

Full disclosure - niece is USNA graduate currently serving.

Posted by: Nazdar at December 13, 2025 01:10 PM (NcvvS)

214 Moldova? Moldova sucks!

https://youtu.be/AhuHPhey7D4?t=42

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 13, 2025 01:11 PM (O7YUW)

215 Fun couple of days in the Mid Hudson. Three people have been killed in two separate accidents just south of me on the NYS Thruway. Today up north of me in Greene County a murder - suicide leaves three dead. Merry Christmas

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 01:11 PM (D+mpw)

216 215 Fun couple of days in the Mid Hudson. Three people have been killed in two separate accidents just south of me on the NYS Thruway. Today up north of me in Greene County a murder - suicide leaves three dead. Merry Christmas
Posted by: Smell the Glove

Thruway's closed, Man!

Posted by: Arlo Guthrie at December 13, 2025 01:15 PM (oftw2)

217 So we just instinctively believe and not question what NCRI, a very left wing group, tells us? Guess who is heavily involved with this non profit? Lynne Cheney, lol.

This is the same group that freaked out about Covid “misinformation” and was all in on shutting up anyone who questioned the narrative. These are the people who see wHiTe sUpReMacY around every corner. It’s run out of NYU and Princeton and was founded in part by a RINO Denver Riggleman who, like Cheney was all in on the J6 “insurrection” bullshit.

But OK they’re totally trustworthy guyz!!


Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:29 AM

They most certainly are. At least for those with Gell-Mann Amnesia.

Posted by: Michael Crichton at December 13, 2025 01:15 PM (P5BPp)

218 Qatar spends billions in the United States on a highly successful influence campaign.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 13, 2025 11:52 AM

Yep:

QIA ($557B fund) opened U.S. offices in New York (2015) and San Francisco.

Has poured billions into Manhattan skyscrapers, Uber, Snapchat, and Hollywood.

In May 2025, Qatar agreed to a $1.2 trillion economic exchange with the U.S.

Includes the largest Boeing widebody order in history and $500B+ in new AI and energy investment.

Americans are still blocked from owning Qatari media or strategic assets.

X: https://bit.ly/4iRO1l3

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 13, 2025 01:28 PM (P5BPp)

219 I'm not going to guess who "owns" this outfit called NCRI, which I never heard of before, but if someone wants to look into it, I bet it won't come as any surprise who's actually behind it.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:52 AM

Public records, tax filings, and reports indicate a diverse mix of funders, including:

Pro-Israel or Jewish community organizations → such as the Israel on Campus Coalition (ICC) ($335,000 in 2021) and the Ruderman Family Foundation ($34,750 recently).

Hindu advocacy groups → such as CoHNA (Coalition of Hindus of North America, $26,000 for research on Hinduphobia).

Tech/philanthropic foundations → such as the Motwani Jadeja Family Foundation ($125,000 recently).

Conservative-leaning sources → such as the Charles Koch Foundation/Stand Together Trust (announced support in 2020).

Other reported past support → from Open Society Foundations, philanthropist David Magerman, Rutgers University contributions, and anonymous donors.

Grok full answer: https://bit.ly/48TqBHG

Open Society Foundations = George Soros

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 13, 2025 01:34 PM (P5BPp)

220 The extracts from that essay on The Entitlement Machine are exactly why what Trump is accomplishing.....is useless. Trump is trying to downsize government and save costs, but his programs are NOT addressing the real problem.

Until the mindset of running to DC for every little unexpected expense - at the individual level and the civic level and the State level - until the reflex expectation of federal bucks for every unexpected expense is broken, everything which Trump is accomplishing will be undone and undone right quickly.

Trump can succeed wildly and beyond all expectations at every one of his goals, and even get them enacted legislatively, but unless the mindset of ever-expanding entitlements is broken, it will all very quickly come to naught.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at December 13, 2025 01:35 PM (bufu1)

221 Rhymes with a female body part.

Posted by: Just the punchline at December 13, 2025 12:00 PM

Gipple?

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 13, 2025 01:39 PM (P5BPp)

222 Tucker's kid is working for JD Vance, and Levin's kid is working for DeSantis IIRC.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 13, 2025 12:12 PM

Via Grok:

Yes, Tucker Carlson's son, Buckley Carlson, is currently working for Vice President JD Vance as his deputy press secretary. This was widely reported in January 2025 by outlets like ABC News, Newsweek, and The Hill, after Buckley transitioned from his prior role as deputy chief of staff to Rep. Jim Banks on Capitol Hill.

Regarding Mark Levin, it's not one of his biological children (he has a son, Chase, and a daughter, Lauren). However, his stepson, David Milstein, worked as a paid consultant for Ron DeSantis's 2022 gubernatorial reelection campaign and his 2024 presidential campaign, focusing on Jewish and pro-Israel outreach. This was reported in November 2023 by Semafor and others, noting that Levin had praised DeSantis extensively on air without disclosing the family tie. The DeSantis presidential campaign ended in early 2024, so Milstein is no longer actively working for him in that capacity.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 13, 2025 01:51 PM (P5BPp)

223 If NCRI is lefty, and lefty has been trying to call anyone to the right of them "Nazi" for years now, why would they act to discredit Fuentes - one of the very few to their right who actually does show signs of being a fan of the Nazis? He "proves" their point for them.

If I'm missing a point here, I'd appreciate correction.

Posted by: AB at December 13, 2025 01:59 PM (ArLSQ)

224 223 If NCRI is lefty, and lefty has been trying to call anyone to the right of them "Nazi" for years now, why would they act to discredit Fuentes - one of the very few to their right who actually does show signs of being a fan of the Nazis? He "proves" their point for them.

If I'm missing a point here, I'd appreciate correction.
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No, I don't think you're missing anything. I use libtard news sources to prove a point, when that point isn't pushing their usual narrative. Mind you, citing NYT that school closures were a disaster during Covid hasn't swayed any libtards so far, but I guess that's libtards for you.

One of the best pieces of evidence that the second (more famous) Gulf of Tonkin Incident was just spooked sailors seeing things on radar scopes was that Hanoi loved to play up its attacks on Americans, and did not take credit for that "night attack". Hanoi were dirty commies, but the incentive structure meant that I believe them if they said years later that they did not attack the Maddox and the Turner Joy.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 02:07 PM (UdiE9)

225 I don't believe anyone is an influencer. There are just grifters and content creators. It's all about the money.

Left, right, queer, straight, single, tradcon, blogs, X, YouTube, Rumble, Twitchy, whatever. No one really believes in anything they are selling. They are simply picking a "hot topic" of the day and using it to make money.

Case in point is this expose of "right-wing e-girl drama". These "right-wing e-girls" promote themselves as tradcons, yet behind the scenes they are a bunch of immature bitches to one another.

YouTube (hoe_math): https://bit.ly/4rWlkaR

Some of the crap these people say to one another is disgusting. And if any of it is true, it confirms what I've suspected of these right-wing "conferences" (e.g. the stuff like the upcoming "AmFest") that are nothing more than social hook-ups.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 13, 2025 02:18 PM (P5BPp)

226 I despise influencers. Especially the shallow consumers.

Political influencers are cancerous. Yes, I know some of them are on "our" side, but still dangerous AF.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at December 13, 2025 02:32 PM (w6EFb)

227 225 That is a really good video, Clyde. Thanks for posting it.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 13, 2025 02:44 PM (UdiE9)

228 The founder of NCRI is a fellow named Joel Finkelstein, which just cannot be a real name. He may as well have called himself Jewey McJewface.

Either way, if you're going to ask me to choose between trusting Nick Fuentes, or Jewey McJewface, I'm on team Fuentes every time thanks.

Posted by: Exiled2Texas at December 13, 2025 04:36 PM (YINx+)

229 Let's stop using this fake word. Besides, the way i know your influence is zero is when this fake word is used to refer to you. People of real influence do not need to be called that.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 04:48 PM (4786I)

230
Posted by: Exiled2Texas at December 13, 2025 04:36

You, like your hero, are a troll. A very hate-filled, bigoted one, at that.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 04:50 PM (4786I)

231 Where don't we have troops?


Posted by: BurtTC at December 13, 2025 11:38 AM (WF5qu)

Lots of places. But as nothing means shit to you, you don't want this country having a military at all.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 13, 2025 04:54 PM (4786I)

232 "You, like your hero, are a troll. A very hate-filled, bigoted one, at that."

Joanie hates Chachi. Don't cry.

Posted by: Exiled2Texas at December 13, 2025 07:22 PM (YINx+)

The Classical Saturday Coffee Break & Prayer Revival

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[H/T Thomas Paine, as in give me caffeine or give me death fame.]


Good morning boys and girls and everything in between. Before we enter the Prayer Revival just a few housekeeping matters to go over. (Rulz for those of you in Medford)

1) This is an open thread. Feel free to lurk, opine and/or bloviate.
2) Be kind, be nice. See if you are on somebody's list.
3) No. You may not run with sharp objects until the Food Thread comes around tomorrow.
4) Have a wonderful weekend.

*****



AoSHQ Weekly Prayer List

Please submit any prayer requests to me, “Annie’s Stew” at apaslo at-sign hotmail dot com. Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks unless we receive an update.

Prayer Requests:

11/6 - D sent an update on his wife Susan, and her battle with cancer. He sent his thanks to everyone for the prayers. They are helping and much appreciated. Susan had an infection which is being treated, but her sodium levels are bad again. She will be sent home soon, but is on restrictive fluids until this is cleared up. The good news is that she has gained some weight back and her voice is much stronger now. Thank you, and please keep up the prayers. They appreciate everyone!
11/20 Update – Susan is out of the hospital, after 2 weeks. For the first time in months, she doesn’t have any drainage tubes. Chemo is on hold for the next 2 weeks, to give her time to rest, recover, and gain some weight back. Thank you, everyone, for your prayers – please continue them!

11/15 – Smell the Glove asked for prayers for an 81 year-old aunt who has colon cancer. She is stopping chemo, since it’s not working and it’s tiring her out. Doctors will determine if any other treatment is proper.
11/29 Update – Thank you all for the prayers. The good Lord had another plan and the aunt passed away. She had taught at a Catholic school for over 20 years, raised 3 daughters and had 8 grandchildren. She also babysat Smell the Glove the first couple of years of life.

11/15 – Sponge posted an update on the “First lady”. She is doing OK from the surgery pain-wise, however it appears her compromised immune system from chemo is susceptible to viruses. She has been spiking a fever all weekend.

11/20 - Bluebell sent an update on grammie winger - good news! At her appointment, the doctor said her bloodwork is nearly perfect and her cancer cell count is dropping. She is in minimal pain. The chemo is working, thanks be to God! She will go back in 3 weeks for another round of chemo and then they will do a CT scan to see if she can have surgery to clean out the rest of the tumors. She is convinced – CONVINCED – that this is due in no small part to the treasured prayers of friends and family! They gave her weeks, and now she is looking at possible remission.

11/22 – Duke Lowell posted an update. He said that he is gradually starting to feel normal again, two months after his surgery. The main problem is that the effects of anesthesia are still suppressing his appetite.

11/22 – Commissar Hrothgar posted prayers for President Trump, to keep him safe from harm and may the many forces of evil arrayed against him and our country be made ineffective and come to naught.

11/22 – Oddbob requested prayers. He found out that his job is going away the end of December. They are a one-income family. He also requested prayers for another co-worker, who is in the same situation.

11/22 – Cosda sent an update on his wife’s condition. She started a year of immunotherapy in June for cancer. She is doing well with her treatments every three weeks, but her follow up dermatology scan found another mole with melanoma and 2 other abnormal and suspicious spots. She will be having more tissue removed from those areas for lab tests. Prayers are appreciated.

11/22 – The Walking Dude sent an update. We prayed for his mom in August, when she fell and broke her hip. She is 90 years old. She is still in the hospital but has been transferred to a better rehab run by the Masons. They are unsure if she will ever get out. Please pray for her recovery and return home.

11/24 – Bulg requested prayers for a neighbor who has cancer, and also prayers for his son and two of his friends, who are moving into a rental house in Arlington, VA on 11/28. Prayers for the 3 of them, that they may live together contentedly, and prayers for Bulg and his wife as they adjust to their son’s absence.
11/26 Update – The neighbor passed away on 11/24. Prayers are needed for the neighbor’s husband, Steve, as he grieves. They had no children.

11/29 – From about That Time asked for prayers after a lymphoma diagnosis. From about That Time has already begun chemo, and the kids and granddaughter had fun cutting off a ponytail and shaving hair in preparation.

12/1 – P received news that her 24 year old daughter has changed her name to a male name and had “top surgery”. P needs wisdom as to how to speak to her, and also how to speak with P’s other children, in a loving but honest way. Also, that God will use this to turn all their hearts back to Him.

12/3 – Teresa in Fort Worth posted an update. She had an MRI on 12/3, and will meet with the oncologist on 12/4, the surgeon on 12/8, and the surgery on 12/11. This is a good thing, because it looks like more tumors are starting to crop up in her liver. It doesn’t appear to have spread beyond there yet, thank goodness.
12/8 Update – The surgery is still planned for 12/11. Teresa will be in the hospital for 5-7 days. With doctor’s approval, they plan to travel to see family on 12/20. Thanks to everyone for their prayers!
12/11 Update – Today’s surgery to remove part of her liver is scheduled to begin at 2:30 pm (Central) and take about 3 hours. The surgeon will also be using heat ablation on the remnants of the other small tumors.

12/4 – E asked for prayers as she will be having surgery in two weeks. She is nervous, but everyone she has spoken with has nothing but good things to say about the surgeon, and she is looking forward to being on the other side of it. Please pray that all will go according to God’s will and that His name will be glorified.

12/6 – M requested prayers for Ron and Sherri. Ron has late stage Parkinson’s/dementia, and he recently fell and shattered his hip. He also requested prayers for Al, who fell through a railing and then down 12 feet, and broke seven ribs. He also punctured his lung. He is home now, recovering.

12/6 – Comrade Flounder asked for prayers for his FIL, who went to the hospital for AFIB, congestive heart, and received two stents. FIL is home now, still short of breath, and has a long road ahead. He is a kind-hearted man and a loving father. Comrade Flounder’s wife lost her mother a few years back to brain cancer, so having this go on is even more difficult during the holidays.

12/6 – neverenoughcaffeine asked for prayers for Tim, an acquaintance through church. He has prostate cancer and begins 28 days straight of radiation.

12/6 – pawn asked for prayes for a dear friend named Julia, who was told by her doctors that she has very little time to live. Julia has an incredible mind and drive. She was a Naval officer, a college professor, a competitive sailor, and a mother. She went to the hospital with pneumonia a couple of weeks ago and left with a terminal illness diagnosis. Please pray to God to give her the strength she needs in these last few days, and the peace that comes from acceptance.

For submission guidelines and other relevant info, please contact Annie's Stew, who is managing the prayer list. You can contact her at apaslo at-sign hotmail dot com. If you see a prayer request posted in a thread comment, feel free to copy and paste it and e-mail it to Annie's Stew. She tries to keep up with the requests in the threads, but she's not here all of the time, so she may not see it unless you e-mail it to her. Please note: Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks or so unless we receive an update.

2 Corinthians 4:8-9
We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair, persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 08:05 AM




Comments

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1 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:07 AM (IXZGh)

2 Working on an early Saturday morning. Drinking Dr. Pepper illegally instead of coffee at the moment.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:07 AM (IXZGh)

3 Yonder Horde

A mug of Folgers Classic Roast and a stale English muffin, but made better with ham, cheese and an egg on it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 08:10 AM (NwnyJ)

4 Morning, it's cold here.

Posted by: dantesed at December 13, 2025 08:10 AM (Oy/m2)

5 Annie’s Stew, I wanted to take the time to thank you VERY much for your persistent updates on the First Lady. I know I haven't emailed you in quite some time, but you've been adding updates from posts on the various threads on her progress.

You're wonderful and I appreciate your efforts. She feels ALL of your prayers and we are eternally grateful for your generosity. We are truly humbled.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:10 AM (IXZGh)

6 Good morning Mis Hum and Horde

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 08:12 AM (Ia/+0)

7 Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:10 AM (IXZGh)

How is she doing?

Posted by: dantesed at December 13, 2025 08:13 AM (Oy/m2)

8 Haven't had it confirmed but my aunt and uncle from Alaska should be here. Want to go see them as soon as I can today hopefully

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 08:13 AM (Ia/+0)

9 Good morning all. God is good. One caffeine infusion down with eggs and bacon. Second breakfast to come.

Posted by: PA Dutchman at December 13, 2025 08:15 AM (31p00)

10 How is she doing?
Posted by: dantesed at December 13, 2025 08:13 AM (Oy/m2)



She's doing well. She's still on restrictions after her surgery last month, but things are progressing nicely. As for the cancer, the last mammogram showed clean and a meet with the surgeon this week said she likely needs to change her bra type to assist in the healing of skin around the radiation irritation.

Other than that, everything is going very well.

We are grateful to all who have been praying for her. She feels the love and support every day.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:16 AM (IXZGh)

11 Good Saturday morning, horde.

Prayers for all. Hoping for good news about Teresa this morning.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 13, 2025 08:18 AM (h7ZuX)

12 3) No. You may not run with sharp objects until the Food Thread comes around tomorrow.
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You are free to run around pantsless until the Sunday Morning Book Thread, however.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 08:19 AM (ESVrU)

13 Imaginary coffee (better blend than usual) raised in greeting, and a prayer up for us all.
First week of chemo like buttah, entire 2nd week in hospital dealing with side effects both major and minor. All major to me.
I say to myself, Fatt old boy, just deal with it.
I think I have, should go home today.

Posted by: From about That Time at December 13, 2025 08:20 AM (V88yL)

14 I'm looking at the National Weather Service predictions for temps and precip for my AO in the next two weeks - perfect for low HVAC (provided one has a heat pump) bills! Taking time off and will get in all kinds of outdoor activities.

I'm geeked up.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 08:20 AM (a4flb)

15 Greetings from the Carolinas. Nothing to report. In these troubling times, please remember Ephesians 6: 10-18.

Posted by: Going deep. Out. at December 13, 2025 08:22 AM (XqFM2)

16 FaTT, good news. It will be good to be home.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 13, 2025 08:23 AM (h7ZuX)

17 It's a little chilly outside for pantless.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:23 AM (IXZGh)

18 Morning All!

Posted by: JSpicy at December 13, 2025 08:24 AM (pZoON)

19 First week of chemo like buttah, entire 2nd week in hospital dealing with side effects both major and minor. All major to me.
I say to myself, Fatt old boy, just deal with it.
I think I have, should go home today.
Posted by: From about That Time at December 13, 2025 08:20 AM (V88yL)



Godspeed, sir. I hope the chemo does as expected. They've gotten pretty good with offsetting as much of the side effects as they can with steroids and Benadryl, so hopefully your discomfort is minimal.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:24 AM (IXZGh)

20 At the local diner for breakfast and java. Life is good...

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at December 13, 2025 08:25 AM (/tk5+)

21 En mi casa toman Bustelo!

Posted by: Caffiend at December 13, 2025 08:25 AM (oftw2)

22 Glory to the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is now, and will be forever. Amen.

Hail Mary, full of grace, blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.

St. Lucy, virgin, martyr, and patroness of the blind, pray for us.

I have prayed Rosaries for the intentions - both stated and unstated - of the Horde.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 13, 2025 08:25 AM (pJWtt)

23 Dear Lord, grant me the grace of wonder. Surprise me, amaze me, awe me in every crevice of your universe. Each day enrapture me with your marvelous things without number. ...I do not ask to see the reason for it all: I ask only to share the wonder of it all.

Abraham Joshua Heschel

Polish American rabbi and teacher-died 1972

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 08:27 AM (vHIwP)

24 Posted by: From about That Time at December 13, 2025 08:20 AM (V88yL

Sorry about the side effects. Will keep you in prayer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 08:28 AM (vHIwP)

25 Prayers to be said for all on the prayer list. Thanks Annie for adding Tim.
On a more mundane note, why do smoke detectors decide to announce that their batteries need replacing in the middle of the night? I'm too old to make it on 2 hours of sleep, never did fall back to sleep after the chirping.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 13, 2025 08:29 AM (2NHgQ)

26 Good morning dear horde and thanks annie and mh and you morons for praying

Praise reports for {grammie} and {TiFW} this week

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 08:29 AM (A0sqA)

27 Coffee is for closers. I have no desire this morning to put on pants and charge into the day.

Maybe I'll charge to the liquor store, and to grab supplies for a nice winter stew and/or casserole.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 13, 2025 08:29 AM (1zOXE)

28 Ten days until Festivus

Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 08:30 AM (Y1sOo)

29 For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that.

But now you boast in your arrogance. All such boasting is evil.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 08:30 AM (gbOdA)

30 Praise report for Mrs. Sponge too iirc?

And for FaTT a prayer for complete and speedy recovery

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 08:32 AM (A0sqA)

31 I love that prayer, Fen. It's something like my own humble prayer to always find joy in the ordinary.

We live such hectic lives; sometimes I like to stop, and pull my focus in to something natural nearby and be amazed at its intricate design and place in the universe. Just stop and have a close look at tree bark, for instance.

God's creation is wondrous.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 13, 2025 08:32 AM (h7ZuX)

32 Also, Hiya JT! Still in my prayers.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 13, 2025 08:34 AM (h7ZuX)

33 Good morning Horde,
God is good! Great to hear Grammie's prognosis is promising. Sponge's First Lady is healing up. And hopefully Teresa came through surgery well. I'm 6 weeks past cancer treatment with my hair and beard back. Prognosis looking good here as well. Believe in prayer. Believe in miracles, they exist even in this broken world.

I would ask for prayers for a dear friend's 3 week old granddaughter who is battling meningitis. Waiting on results for results on MRI.

Another friend's wife is having kidney issues. Only one kidney and it isn't functioning well.

Thank you.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 13, 2025 08:34 AM (7v6oI)

34 FaTT, good news. It will be good to be home.
Posted by: Dash my

Thanks Dash, looking forward to it.
Still don't have the energy to capitalize the last two Ts in my nick.

Posted by: From about That Time at December 13, 2025 08:34 AM (V88yL)

35 Capitalization is racist.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 08:35 AM (A0sqA)

36 98 days until Spring, can't wait

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 08:35 AM (Ia/+0)

37 Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 13, 2025 08:32 AM (h7ZuX)

Wonderful thoughts. Thanks, Dash!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 08:36 AM (a2Pv6)

38 change her bra type to assist in the healing of skin around the radiation irritation.

Other than that, everything is going very well.

We are grateful to all who have been praying for her. She feels the love and support every day.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer


FreeTime the ta-tas!! Bra- less is the best choice!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 13, 2025 08:37 AM (2J/Lj)

39 Morning again, caffeinators,

I say one thing for the Wolfus man, his morning routine is rock solid.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 13, 2025


***
And dull as hell. Except for getting dressed for work, and the time at which I do it all, it hasn't changed much since, I dunno, 2006?

The cats like the clock-steady routine, though, so there's that.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 08:37 AM (wzUl9)

40 And a good morning upon the Earth for all who have passed through medical crises, including surgery.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 08:38 AM (wzUl9)

41 For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that.

But now you boast in your arrogance. All such boasting is evil.
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 08:30 AM (gbOdA)


This seems to me to be rather ill-chosen. Are you denigrating public prayer? Or, are you denigrating people requesting prayer?

Some more context seems to be in order.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 13, 2025 08:38 AM (pJWtt)

42 Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit.  As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end.  Amen.

Oh my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell.  Lead all souls to heaven, especially those most in need of Thy mercy.  Amen.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 08:38 AM (ZOv7s)

43 I'll make a request for Mrs. F. who sprained her foot due to a fall on Maple St yesterday.

She literally hobbles in the door. So I ask, "Why didn't you call me to pick you up?"

"I took the bus," she says.

????

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 08:38 AM (A0sqA)

44 "You are free to run around pantsless until the Sunday Morning Book Thread, however.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel"

Not me.I got new thermal underwears.

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 08:38 AM (vFG9F)

45 I love coming here and seeing praise and worship from people with sardonic nics.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 08:39 AM (ZOv7s)

46 Posted by: From about That Time at December 13, 2025 08:20 AM (V88yL

Stay strong. It's a tough haul through chemo but keep telling yourself 2 things:
1) it's going to take more than this to bring the bear (you) down.

2) Cancer - you hit like a witch.

You can do this. You are stronger than you know.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 13, 2025 08:39 AM (7v6oI)

47 I'll make a request for Mrs. F. who sprained her foot due to a fall on Maple St yesterday.

She literally hobbles in the door. So I ask, "Why didn't you call me to pick you up?"

"I took the bus," she says.

????
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025


***
Darned if that doesn't sound like something Miss Linda would do. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 08:40 AM (wzUl9)

48
Remembering daily all the Horde, especially those on the Prayer List, in my Rosary intentions and dedicating a decade to their needs.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 08:40 AM (tgvbd)

49 The cats like demand my ironclad compliance with their the clock-steady routine, though, so there's that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 08:37 AM (wzUl9)

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 08:41 AM (A0sqA)

50 42 Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.

Oh my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell. Lead all souls to heaven, especially those most in need of Thy mercy. Amen.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 08:38 AM (ZOv7s)

Two very simple yet powerful prayers. My favorites.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 13, 2025 08:41 AM (7v6oI)

51 'Bout time I nipped out for my errands. All of you have a good day and try not to get caught doing naughty things. At least not until the Pet Thread.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 08:41 AM (wzUl9)

52 Good morning Horde
Prayers for the Horde and their loved ones in need.
Army - Navy today . Always a great spectacle for our country.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 08:43 AM (D+mpw)

53 Just eight more days and the daylight will start getting longer.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 13, 2025 08:44 AM (g8Ew8)

54 @29 "Ye rejoice in your boastings."
Not hard to find people proud of their humility!

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 13, 2025 08:45 AM (zdLoL)

55 Darned if that doesn't sound like something Miss Linda would do. . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 08:40 AM (wzUl9)

====
That's cray cray am I right?

She knew I was sitting at home.

And here's the cherry on top. She complained to me that the Muni removed a stop recently so she had to hobble 2 extra blocks.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 08:45 AM (A0sqA)

56 First Lady is heading to NE TX to collect her dad and hit a Christmas party this evening. I am working, so I can't go, but she's looking forward to the time with our soon to be, God willing, neighbors.

She'll be back tomorrow. I'll be doing what little Christmas decorations we have while she's gone, so she'll return to some holiday cheer at home as well.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:45 AM (20K3i)

57 I love coming here and seeing praise and worship from people with sardonic nics.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 08:39 AM (ZOv7s)


I do too, it shows a different side of that person's nature. I think is demonstrates the fallacy of discounting the spiritual.

If humans are merely "meat robots" and such a thing as the soul does not exist, why do we see such disparate reactions to the same stimuli?

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 13, 2025 08:46 AM (pJWtt)

58
Good morning again everyone. Today is winterize the sprinkler system day. Should be fun.
1) open the drain valve
2) close the supply valve
3) let the controller run each zone to allow everything to drain to the lowest zone where the the drain valve is
4) close the drain valve

Every so happy I learned how to service the system as a twenty something augmenting my Army pretend pay by installing them when we lived in El Paso. Rent a ditchwith on a Saturday morning for 24 hours. Rental company is closed on Sunday, so got it for 48 hours. Dig out three or four yards. Install three or four systems during the week after work.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 13, 2025 08:46 AM (QVmho)

59 Our cats have (sort of) adapted to our night-time routine.

They still insist on being let out at some ungodly hour of the morning... like 4 or 5am... but they are quiet the remainder of the night.

It's supposed to be bitterly cold tomorrow - Tuesday, so their routine will be abbreviated.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 08:46 AM (NwnyJ)

60 Great time of year in N. TX, at least for low energy bills. Little bed for heat nor AC.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at December 13, 2025 08:47 AM (/tk5+)

61 Saw a sign outside of a church that read... "Praise God". Simple, yet effective. What popped in to my head after reading this sign....

Father God
We give you the praise and the glory. Thank you for this life, this love, the family, the friends, the health, and the happiness with which you have blessed us. Help us to be healthy and safe so that we may enjoy these blessings for many years to come. Help us to be considered and wise in our decisions. In our beloved Savior name, amen.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 13, 2025 08:47 AM (2J/Lj)

62 This seems to me to be rather ill-chosen. Are you denigrating public prayer? Or, are you denigrating people requesting prayer?

Some more context seems to be in order.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 13, 2025 08:38 AM (pJWtt)

It is James 4 15 and 16
Verse 14 put it more in context
Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 08:47 AM (gbOdA)

63 FreeTime the ta-tas!! Bra- less is the best choice!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 13, 2025 08:37 AM (2J/Lj)



I am fine with this.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:48 AM (20K3i)

64
FreeTime the ta-tas!! Bra- less is the best choice!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench)

You know the rules. Pics.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 13, 2025 08:49 AM (QVmho)

65 She literally hobbles in the door. So I ask, "Why didn't you call me to pick you up?"

"I took the bus," she says.

????
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 08:38 AM (A0sqA)

Bless her. Prayers for a quick recovery!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 13, 2025 08:49 AM (h7ZuX)

66 Ye rejoice in your boastings."
Not hard to find people proud of their humility!
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 13, 2025 08:45 AM (zdLoL)

Just ask them. They'll tell you they're the most humble people one will ever meet.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 13, 2025 08:49 AM (g8Ew8)

67 Going to be 76 degrees today and then we get the polar vortex and it will get down to 28 degrees for a few hours tomorrow . I don’t like the big swing. I like to work into winter gradually.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:50 AM (KDPiq)

68 Lord, please guide me through this and please grant me the wisdom to recognize that guidance when you provide it.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 13, 2025 08:50 AM (u73oe)

69 I would like to ask prayers for our dear retired organist.,Jessie , for strength and to feel God's love. In the past month her daughter has died from cancer as have her two closest friends from church whom she had know about 85 or more years . Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 08:52 AM (vHIwP)

70 53 Just eight more days and the daylight will start getting longer.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons

Not enough to notice until Groundhog Day.

Posted by: Bill Murray at December 13, 2025 08:52 AM (oftw2)

71
Day 1 of the AKC National Championship in Orlando and The Big Dummy is getting shown today.

Unfortunately, we have had an unpleasant dispute with our regular handler this week and we're parting ways. Dummy's co-owner was sitting at ringside during the Hound Group on Wednesday and overheard him saying to someone outside the ring that TBD was OK but was never going to be Number 1. That's not the sort of thing you want to hear from someone who should be promoting your dog.

That's kind of the culmination of other grievances Her Majesty has had. Neither he nor his crew are very friendly. As in, won't even say good morning to you. And they regard any kind of suggestion about how to present TBD with distain.

I know that shows can be hectic and I know that some clients can be a pain in the ass, but we've always brought him good dogs, impeccably groomed, and we pay for services rendered at the end of the show. So I, for one, don't see a reason why we should put up with that.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 08:52 AM (tgvbd)

72 "change her bra type to assist in the healing of skin around the radiation irritation."

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You know about the cup sizes?

Posted by: Frank Costanza at December 13, 2025 08:53 AM (2Ez/1)

73 @38 change her bra type to assist in the healing

Why, it's a Christmas Miracle.
We can change any thread to a Boob Thread!
("according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself")

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 13, 2025 08:53 AM (zdLoL)

74 Yonder Horde

A mug of Folgers Classic Roast and a stale English muffin, but made better with ham, cheese and an egg on it.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 08:10 AM (NwnyJ)

You wouldn’t have posted that if you read last night’s ONT.😀

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:54 AM (KDPiq)

75 Polar Vortex, Atmospheric Rivers, Bomb Cyclones, Oh, My!

Posted by: Whether Man at December 13, 2025 08:54 AM (oftw2)

76 I pray that Sherrone Moore moves to whatever South Pacific island Mel Tucker fled to and that they find happiness together.

Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 08:54 AM (Y1sOo)

77
I know that shows can be hectic and I know that some clients can be a pain in the ass, but we've always brought him good dogs, impeccably groomed, and we pay for services rendered at the end of the show. So I, for one, don't see a reason why we should put up with that.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 08:52 AM (tgvbd)


See, these are the stories I want to hear. I still think you should coordinate with one of the COBs to write a thread on your experiences in this world.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:54 AM (20K3i)

78 And life is too short to put up with assholes.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:55 AM (20K3i)

79 My sprinkler system is typing on this keyboard.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 08:55 AM (A0sqA)

80 Polar Vortex, Atmospheric Rivers, Bomb Cyclones, Oh, My!
Posted by: Whether Man at December 13, 2025 08:54 AM (oftw2)



The results of turning news and weather into entertainment.........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:56 AM (20K3i)

81 53 Just eight more days and the daylight will start getting longer.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons

My favorite day of the year. It's also the birthday of my only neice. Hubbymayhem goofs on me about this.

Tomorrow is his birthday. It's also the 16th anniversary of the day Mamamayhem passed. Yeh, that sucked for Hubbymayhem.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 13, 2025 08:57 AM (2J/Lj)

82
You wouldn’t have posted that if you read last night’s ONT.😀
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:54 AM (KDPiq)



That Folgers ad was ........ disturbing.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:57 AM (20K3i)

83 It is James 4 15 and 16
Verse 14 put it more in context
Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 13, 2025 08:47 AM (gbOdA)


You're not really answering my question.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 13, 2025 08:57 AM (pJWtt)

84 I know that shows can be hectic and I know that some clients can be a pain in the ass, but we've always brought him good dogs, impeccably groomed, and we pay for services rendered at the end of the show. So I, for one, don't see a reason why we should put up with that.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 08:52 AM (tgvbd)

Is he from Indonesia? They like their dogs fat and quiet. Makes 'em more tender.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 13, 2025 08:58 AM (g8Ew8)

85 A Polar Vortex has been a term used for decades.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:58 AM (KDPiq)

86 Tomorrow is his birthday. It's also the 16th anniversary of the day Mamamayhem passed. Yeh, that sucked for Hubbymayhem.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 13, 2025 08:57 AM (2J/Lj)



Happy Birthday to him. I also have a birthday this week.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:58 AM (20K3i)

87 We didn't have much of a fall this year. It went from hot to cold. The bottom is going to drop out tomorrow, down into the teens. Not looking forward to that at all.

Posted by: Case at December 13, 2025 08:59 AM (G1OIb)

88
And life is too short to put up with assholes.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:55 AM (20K3i)


It's not your ordinary customer experience. It's more like you have to keep them happy, not the other way around. They like to think they know everything and you're just some tiresome intruder. But Her Majesty knows her dog and was, before her knees gave out, among the best owner-handlers.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 08:59 AM (tgvbd)

89 I know that shows can be hectic and I know that some clients can be a pain in the ass, but we've always brought him good dogs, impeccably groomed, and we pay for services rendered at the end of the show. So I, for one, don't see a reason why we should put up with that.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Sorry for the upheaval, but I have fired employees, workmen, even doctors for that kind of mess and never regretted it. Don't make me pay for bad attitude, because I won't.

Posted by: Whether Man at December 13, 2025 08:59 AM (oftw2)

90 I think someone in Canada is missing an air mass. Please come get it.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 13, 2025 08:59 AM (2Ez/1)

91 I'm out of here, got errands to run before the Polar Vortex(tm) hits.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 13, 2025 08:59 AM (pJWtt)

92 My niece's dog crossed the rainbow Bridge yesterday
The family is getting together for his burial.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at December 13, 2025 09:00 AM (8CIFn)

93 Two very simple yet powerful prayers. My favorites.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 13, 2025 08:41 AM (7v6oI)
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I used to just post the Glory Be, but I realized that it went so well with the Fatima prayer that they should be kept together.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 09:00 AM (ZOv7s)

94 I would also to to ask prayers for my son who is looking for a job. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 09:00 AM (ZeH0U)

95 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Professional handlers can be asshoe.

I benched a professional handler at a show in Indianapolis for waving bait in front on my dog's face during a tight, line-abreast group stack that the judge called for.

By her reaction, you'd have thought I had accused her of murder. She denied the waving of the bait thing, but unfortunately for her, I had video of it on my phone.

Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 09:01 AM (Y1sOo)

96 60 Great time of year in N. TX, at least for low energy bills. Little bed for heat nor AC.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at December 13, 2025 08:47 AM (/tk5+)

Yes it is! We’ve finally gotten to where all the leaves are turning. I have 3 Japanese Maples in the backyard, and they are resplendent in gorgeous hues of orange, red, and burgundy. And the two pears on the side are golden from top to bottom.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 09:02 AM (k5cxK)

97 > We didn't have much of a fall this year. It went from hot to cold. The bottom is going to drop out tomorrow, down into the teens. Not looking forward to that at all.
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Here in KY too. It's been overcast and cold most of November and now into December. Supposed to be near zero tomorrow night with wind chills around -10F.

The house isn't insulated for that kind of cold.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 09:03 AM (NwnyJ)

98 My sprinkler system is typing on this keyboard.

Posted by: San Franpsycho



Modern technology is amazing. What nic does it post under?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 13, 2025 09:03 AM (0U5gm)

99 Southern Indiana....

High temp on Sunday will be 9°. Yes I said high temperature for the day will be 9 degrees. It's snowing right now. Temp is hovering around 30°.

Winter is just one very, very long Monday.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 13, 2025 09:04 AM (2J/Lj)

100
Professional handlers can be asshoe.

Some can be but most aren't. Or at least they manage to hide it. I doubt he's quite that distant with his top client.

The person we'd really like to have, who understands hounds and is friendly even to me, unfortunately moved to Ohio.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 09:05 AM (tgvbd)

101 Time for a little praise and joy.

I didn't mention this at the time because frankly I was tired of thinking, talking and dealing with it. When something bad is going on, and you tell everyone, yes, you get some sympathy and prayers, but then people will ask how it is going, which forces you to think about it when you'd rather just move on to happier topics.

This is what happened when CPS was tormenting us. I only told a few people and never mentioned it here until long after it was over. I notified my Guard unit's security manager because I had to, but emphasized that it was absolutely confidential because I liked coming to drill and talking about other stuff. This request was honored.

Anyway, I've been dealing with elevated blood pressure for a year, and then in September learned that I had Type II diabetes and my blood sugar levels were really bad. My doctor at the time was a condescending pill-pusher so I fired him and got a new one who was made to understand that I call the shots, which she agreed. I had hitherto been in excellent overall health, rarely getting sick and I only got a primary doctor because I was over 29 and my wife insisted. (cont)

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 09:07 AM (ZOv7s)

102 Mornin' folks.

Frigid outside. Gonna stay inside and (try to) bake cookies.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 13, 2025 09:08 AM (kpS4V)

103 You wouldn’t have posted that if you read last night’s ONT.😀
Posted by: the way I see it at December 13, 2025 08:54 AM (KDPiq)
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I missed it last night, but I watched it this morning.

It's hilarious.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 09:09 AM (ESVrU)

104 “See, these are the stories I want to hear. I still think you should coordinate with one of the COBs to write a thread on your experiences in this world.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 08:54 AM (20K3i)”

I’m curious to know how close they are to “Best in Show.”
Well worth watching btw, if only to see Fred Willard as the Best Event Announcer Ever.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 09:11 AM (k5cxK)

105 Sponge, since it turned into a boob and bra thread, I would like to suggest an Evelyn Bobbie bra for the First Lady. They're stupid expensive, but very easy wearing. Wide bands, no hooks and buckles. Feels like a gentle hug.

evelynbobbie.com

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 13, 2025 09:11 AM (h7ZuX)

106 Polar Vortex has been a term used for decades.
Posted by: the way I see it at

Yes, meaning a sharp sudden drop in temperature accompanied by high winds from the north or northwest.
A short term drastic change, not a calamity.

Posted by: From about That Time at December 13, 2025 09:12 AM (V88yL)

107 If humans are merely "meat robots" and such a thing as the soul does not exist ….
———

No no no …. They got it all wrong.

You are a soul. You have a body.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 09:14 AM (kBA/i)

108 (cont) I had never had high BP before, was a regular blood donor (before Covid masking drove me away) and so the discovery of the diabeetus made sense. My theory was that upon retirement, I decided to eat whatever I wanted for the first time in decades - pop with sugar, ice cream every night, etc. What I did not realize was that while I did not have diabetes to the extent of my father or grandfather, I was still sensitive, and had augured myself in good.

I therefore went through everything I ate, cut out all the sugar I could identify, slashed carbs and did the apple cider vinegar thing while kicking up my exercise.

Just as importantly, I received the Sacrament of the Anointing of the Sick. Because my BP was scary high, I accepted a low dose of meds, and that worked. But I wanted to first see what would happen if I just cut off the sugar.

This week I met with the doctor, went over the labs and the results were spectacular. Cut the A1C by almost 50 percent to controlled levels in 90s days. Doc was impressed. The temptation is to attribute this to my efforts, but we all know that God has the final say. God be praised!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 09:15 AM (ZOv7s)

109 Prayers up for all the Horde's intentions. Those asked and unasked.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 13, 2025 09:16 AM (bQ4nt)

110 Greetings, Fen ... Two suggestions for your son ... Check your area for any farm-to-table restaurants which grow their own vegetables ... Another indirect path to employment might be hydroponic systems; if there's a company in your area which sells these, he could schedule visit to learn more about the product(s) plus inquire about a job or internship.

Posted by: Kathy at December 13, 2025 09:17 AM (zuKcR)

111 >>Well worth watching btw, if only to see Fred Willard as the Best Event Announcer Ever.

Much of it was ad-libbed by him, too.

Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 09:17 AM (Y1sOo)

112 Congratulations A. H. !!! Those are marvelous results!

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 09:18 AM (k5cxK)

113 "Now tell me, which one of these dogs would you want to have as your wide receiver on your football team?"

Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 09:18 AM (Y1sOo)

114 Why, it's a Christmas Miracle.
We can change any thread to a Boob Thread!
("according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself")
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 13, 2025 08:53 AM (zdLoL)
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Free the sweater puppies! Let them frolic and play!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 09:19 AM (ZOv7s)

115 Another indirect path to employment might be hydroponic systems
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Dude! That’s what I’m talkin’ about!

Posted by: I Owe A Lot To Iowa Pot at December 13, 2025 09:19 AM (kBA/i)

116 Prayers for all those listed intentions, and for anyone who, like me, struggles to heed this wisdom from 1 Peter 3:

8 Finally, all of you, be of one mind, sympathetic, loving toward one another, compassionate, humble. 9 Do not return evil for evil, or insult for insult; but, on the contrary, a blessing, because to this you were called, that you might inherit a blessing.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at December 13, 2025 09:20 AM (kOluj)

117 > Southern Indiana....

High temp on Sunday will be 9°. Yes I said high temperature for the day will be 9 degrees. It's snowing right now. Temp is hovering around 30°.

Winter is just one very, very long Monday.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench)
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You must be on the other side of the Ohio River from us, here in KY. We're south-southwest of Louisville.

It's 29 here. Yesterday wasn't too bad... had some sun for the first time in what seems like months. Going to be bitterly cold tomorrow - Tuesday.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 09:20 AM (NwnyJ)

118 God be praised!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 09:15 AM (ZOv7s)
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This

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 09:21 AM (9ipOP)

119 I pray that Sherrone Moore moves to whatever South Pacific island Mel Tucker fled to and that they find happiness together.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 08:54 AM (Y1sOo)
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It's good that this is a slow time of year for work because a bunch of folks in my office (including me) are Spartan grads and spent most of Thursday and Friday following the scandal on various media and giving regular updates on what we found.

Best response: "Killing yourself with a butter knife? Why not go all in and use a spoon?"

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 09:24 AM (ZOv7s)

120
"Free the sweater puppies! Let them frolic and play!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd"


Is this about me?

Posted by: Sue Ellen Mischke at December 13, 2025 09:24 AM (2Ez/1)

121 15 Greetings from the Carolinas. Nothing to report. In these troubling times, please remember Ephesians 6: 10-18.
Posted by: Going deep. Out.

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*fistbump* I recently shared that passage with a friend who is battling cancer.

Great Plains greetings to you from a former/3-year resident of the Greenville-Spartanburg area.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at December 13, 2025 09:27 AM (kOluj)

122 Recent update: Bulg asked for prayers as his brother’s wife’s dementia took a turn for the worse and she entered a memory care facility. Prayers are needed for her, the brother, and their grown daughters. And also prayers are needed for a woman from church who was just diagnosed with cancer. She needs prayers, and so does her granddaughter, who lives with her.

Posted by: AnniesStew at December 13, 2025 09:27 AM (VEsJT)

123 It's 29 here. Yesterday wasn't too bad... had some sun for the first time in what seems like months. Going to be bitterly cold tomorrow - Tuesday.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 09:20 AM (NwnyJ)
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It's 17 here. Low will be 4 overnight. Looks like late next week we get a thaw before the next round.

That's nice. Gives a chance for the first potholes of the season to open up.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 09:28 AM (ZOv7s)

124 High temp on Sunday will be 9°. Yes I said high temperature for the day will be 9 degrees. It's snowing right now. Temp is hovering around 30°.

Winter is just one very, very long Monday.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench)

Just think. The coldest part of the year (last two weeks of Jan - first two weeks of Feb) isn't even here yet.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 13, 2025 09:30 AM (g8Ew8)

125 Wow, I live in the Bitterroot Valley MT at 3500 feet. It was 50 degrees last night when we turned off the lights for bed. 41 right now. I don't want the polar vortex temps, commonly referred to as an Alberta Clipper when I lived in N. IN., that said, please send cooler temps.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 13, 2025 09:31 AM (2NHgQ)

126 last kid is on his way home today

one month with the boys! very excited!

chili and steaks are waiting for him

VERY READY for Christmas!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 13, 2025 09:31 AM (emBoF)

127 Sponge, since it turned into a boob and bra thread, I would like to suggest an Evelyn Bobbie bra for the First Lady. They're stupid expensive, but very easy wearing. Wide bands, no hooks and buckles. Feels like a gentle hug.

evelynbobbie.com

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 13, 2025 09:11 AM (h7ZuX)



I will pass that along. Thanks!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 13, 2025 09:33 AM (20K3i)

128 Recent update: Bulg asked for prayers as his brother’s wife’s dementia took a turn for the worse and she entered a memory care facility.
Posted by: AnniesStew at December 13, 2025 09:27 AM (VEsJT)
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My stepmother was put into a facility earlier this year, and she went a long time without talking to anyone, but not long ago, she started talking a little, much to the surprise of my father. He goes every day to ensure she eats at least one meal.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 09:33 AM (ZOv7s)

129 The other entertaining off-field sports story this week is as the high school team which traveled from Philadelphia to Florida. The night before the big game, 8 or 9 of them decided it would be fun to loot the local Dick’s sports store.
They and their coach were shocked when they were arrested and then told “nope this is Florida, not Philadelphia, and laws get enforced around here.”

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 09:35 AM (k5cxK)

130 Free the sweater puppies! Let them frolic and play!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 09:19 AM


Right after I retire, if you promise to link the video.

Posted by: Nancy P. (D-CA) at December 13, 2025 09:35 AM (0sNs1)

131 Just a reminder: the left is now wholly controlled by demons. They talk about policy concerns, but it's all cover for their acts of evil. Gov. Jabba the Hutt of Illinois just signed an "assisted suicide" law that *requires* religious hospitals to provide referrals to murder clinics.

It's never "my body, my choice," but always "You WILL offer sacrifice to the devil!"

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 09:37 AM (ZOv7s)

132
If someone invented the "Chili-Steak," it would make billions.

You know, a steak made out of Chili.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 13, 2025 09:37 AM (zlW+y)

133 - @117 Martini Farmer

Sounds like you're somewhat close to the Western Kentucky Parkway. I think Elizabethtown west? Been over 40 years.
One of the prettiest drives I've ever taken. Early April. On the way to Kentucky Lake. There had been an early morning rain but mid-morning and the sun had come out. The redbuds and dogwoods were blooming on the hillsides.

Posted by: TeeJ at December 13, 2025 09:38 AM (jMlHD)

134 since it turned into a boob and bra thread, I would like to suggest an Evelyn Bobbie bra for the First Lady. They're stupid expensive, but very easy wearing. Wide bands, no hooks and buckles. Feels like a gentle hug.

evelynbobbie.com

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 13, 2025 09:11 AM


Do they come in the Pantone 2026 Color of the Year, Cloud Dancer?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Nancy P. (D-CA) at December 13, 2025 09:38 AM (0sNs1)

135
1974 Taster's Choice TV ad that you all remember:

https://is.gd/1X4eXK

Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 13, 2025 09:40 AM (zlW+y)

136 Fen,

Has your son checked for openings at Rutgers Agricultural Extension Service? I see jobs there on indeed.

Some entry level openings at the School of Environmental and Biological Sciences.

Posted by: pawn at December 13, 2025 09:42 AM (EMg+d)

137 Facility is so antiseptic.

Memory care community or neighborhood sounds so much better.
/word policing function off

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 09:49 AM (A0sqA)

138 1974 Taster's Choice TV ad that you all remember:

Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 13, 2025 09:40 AM (zlW+y)
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During the field exercise at the end of Basic Training, I was on guard and struggling to keep my eyes open. My solution was to tear open the coffee packet and a sugar packet and just eat it, washing it down with some water. Zing! Kept me up for the rest of my shift.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 09:51 AM (ZOv7s)

139 Posted by: pawn at December 13, 2025 09:42 AM (EMg+d)

Thanks very much . I think he's been sending out resumes to everything that comes up, but I will tell him. I appreciate your input.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 09:51 AM (a2Pv6)

140
And Jesus said to him, You lack one thing: Go, close all of your tabs, and you will have treasure in heaven.

But his face fell, and he went away sad, for hep had a great many open tabs.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 13, 2025 09:52 AM (2Ez/1)

141 Mornin', Horde.

Prayers are going up. Coffee is going down.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 13, 2025 09:52 AM (Wnv9h)

142 “ And Mary said:

“My soul glorifies the Lord
and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, for he has been mindful of the humble state of his servant.
From now on all generations will call me blessed, for the Mighty One has done great things for me—
holy is his name.”

Luke 1: 46-49

Posted by: Marcus T at December 13, 2025 09:53 AM (i14TE)

143 And now with less typos


And Jesus said to him, You lack one thing: Go, close all of your tabs, and you will have treasure in heaven.

But his face fell, and he went away sad, for he had a great many open tabs.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 13, 2025 09:54 AM (2Ez/1)

144 "You better keep asking questions, because it's the only thing that keeps us free."

---Charlie Kirk

Posted by: Candace at December 13, 2025 09:55 AM (2NGiN)

145 It can be break time, getting chilly outside

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 09:56 AM (Ia/+0)

146 But his face fell, and he went away sad, for he had a great many open tabs.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 13, 2025 09:54 AM (2Ez/1)
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This is about Ace, isn't it?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 09:58 AM (ZOv7s)

147 131 Just a reminder: the left is now wholly controlled by demons.”

There’s a good example of that in Texas, in the entertaining race for the dem nomination to run for Senator, which has now attracted national attention. No, not Jasmine Crockett, although I find that part quite amusing because I’ve been telling people for months that she was going to be the Dem nominee, and until this week all the “smart people” said that idea was crazy.

But Texas dems have decided to make it a contest between the two most absolutely loathsome candidates they could find. Her opponent, the sad white twink Talerico, who pretends to be some kind of minister, decided to bolster his cred with Democrats by saying that it would have been OK if Mary would have aborted Jesus.
I know that sounds to monstrously ridiculous for anyone to even think - but that’s true “progressive “ dogma right now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 10:01 AM (k5cxK)

148 Happy Saturday, and continued prayers for the horde!
Hope Teresa in Ft Worth's 12/11 surgery was a success, and the recovery is going smoothly.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 13, 2025 10:04 AM (NuV6c)

149 Mornin' Horde and prayers up. It's going to be 63 today in lovely upstate SC. Unfortunately that means I no longer have an excuse not to work in the yard.

Posted by: screaming in digital at December 13, 2025 10:05 AM (UONii)

150 I want islam to become waslam.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 13, 2025 10:05 AM (g8Ew8)

151 That story gets better - the “Coach” tried to intervene at the Dick store and said “Don’t you cops have anything better to do?” and crap like that.

That wasn’t those hoodlums first rodeo either, that had that shit down to a science. Works real good in Philly, not so great in Florida.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 10:05 AM (kmhyd)

152 Thanks for the Coffee Thread and Prayer Revival, Mis Hum and Annie!

Prayers up for all of God's children this holiday season.

And may God continue to bless the U.S.A. and Israel.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at December 13, 2025 10:06 AM (kB9dk)

153 Her opponent, the sad white twink Talerico, who pretends to be some kind of minister, decided to bolster his cred with Democrats by saying that it would have been OK if Mary would have aborted Jesus.
I know that sounds to monstrously ridiculous for anyone to even think - but that’s true “progressive “ dogma right now.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 10:01 AM (k5cxK)
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The Party of Death. They want dead babies, sterile teenagers and dead grannies.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 10:07 AM (ZOv7s)

154 Good morning all
Hope you all are doing okay. Any word about Teresa's surgery?
Today's plan is to ferry all the Hannukah gifts to my son's house in advance of the party tomorrow. Is it wrong that I am not the least bit unhappy that my fight with my sister that kept me from having to buy gifts for kids I hardly know has made my holiday way less stressful?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 13, 2025 10:07 AM (t/2Uw)

155 >>, decided to bolster his cred with Democrats by saying that it would have been OK if Mary would have aborted Jesus.


OK to have aborted God's son, our savior?
There is no adequate response to such and assertion, it is that amazingly horrifying.

Abortion corrupts everything, absolutely everything -- there is nothing some people will not do or say to protect the ability to kill babies.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 13, 2025 10:08 AM (NuV6c)

156 But his face fell, and he went away sad, for he had a great many open tabs.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 13, 2025 09:54 AM (2Ez/1)

LOL! And btw you are an incredibly lucky poster - you had to give up a great hash, but you got another great one in return! Most of us never even got one that’s worth remembering.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 10:08 AM (k5cxK)

157 Traffic jam.

https://is.gd/9VlBec

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 10:10 AM (L/fGl)

158 Watched "The Best Christmas Pageant Ever" last weekend. Having read the book aloud for many Christmases, I had mixed feelings about a movie version. They did a good job of keeping it mostly true to the book. Must've been hard to *not* wokify it in current Hollywood.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 13, 2025 10:11 AM (NuV6c)

159 Teresa posted at least a couple of times after surgery that I saw. I don't want to get any details wrong, so let me see if I can find one of her posts to share...

Posted by: screaming in digital at December 13, 2025 10:11 AM (UONii)

160 But Texas dems have decided to make it a contest between the two most absolutely loathsome candidates they could find. ...
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Hold our beer.
-San Francisco Democratic Party Central Committee

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:12 AM (To7on)

161 Santa has been riding a fire truck around here all morning, sure hasn't been by my house yet

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 10:13 AM (Ia/+0)

162 Good morning, Horde. I ask that my wife, who is not on this smart military blog, be added to your prayers. She was diagnosed a few weeks back with inflammatory breast cancer and scheduled to start chemo on 2 December. The day after her first treatment, she spiked a 104°F fever and had to be transported to the hospital, where they discovered pneumonia. They've had her in ICU for most of the last week to get her enough oxygen and work on the pneumonia. She's improving, but slowly.

Sorry to spoil the boob thread.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at December 13, 2025 10:14 AM (v23vE)

163 Thanks for the Coffee Thread and Prayer Revival, Mis Hum and Annie!
Prayers up for all of God's children this holiday season.
And may God continue to bless the U.S.A. and Israel.

Yeah, buddy!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 10:14 AM (Kt19C)

164 Teresa reported that surgeon decided not to resection her liver, but instead installed a port that will allow chemo medication to be directly injected in the liver.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:14 AM (To7on)

165 Found this from Teresa on JJ's thread yesterday:

"I'm awake, but they just gave me a Tylenol and an oxycodone, so I may not be conscious too much longer 🤣🤣🤣 Will be seeing the surgical resident first, then Dr. Yopp will be by to see me around 8 or 9.

Apparently my liver is still intact, but I will be going home with an HAI pump. I will have to come up with a fun name for him - maybe call him "Fred". The medicine they will be putting in the pump is called FUDR - you KNOW we are going to be having fun with that acronym....

And now we get to start playing whack-a-mole with all of these pesky little tumors that didn't show up on the CT Scan or the MRI (we were told that it is not uncommon to find that once they go in).

The good news is that the pump is even MORE targeted than anything I have had before, and they can use much more medication without the worry of killing "healthy" tissue in the process.

I think the oxycodone may be kicking in now - see you guys on the other side...

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 12, 2025 07:25 AM (U5cTn)"

Posted by: screaming in digital at December 13, 2025 10:14 AM (UONii)

166 OK to have aborted God's son, our savior?
There is no adequate response to such and assertion, it is that amazingly horrifying.

Abortion corrupts everything, absolutely everything -- there is nothing some people will not do or say to protect the ability to kill babies.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 13, 2025 10:08 AM (NuV6c)
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It started out as feel-good "nice" Christianity where there really is no hell, just devils we haven't made friends with yet, and since Jesus died for our sins, we can sin as much as we want. In fact, I've seen people argue that we *should* sin, otherwise that grace would just be wasted.

It may seem that the rabbit hole is pretty deep, but it's actually just about denying sin and coming up with excuses to do what you want.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 10:15 AM (ZOv7s)

167 Thanks for the update, SID!

Posted by: Lizzy at December 13, 2025 10:16 AM (NuV6c)

168 Good morning, Horde. I ask that my wife, who is not on this smart military blog, be added to your prayers.
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A prayer for complete and speedy healing.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 10:16 AM (To7on)

169 162 Good morning, Horde. I ask that my wife, who is not on this smart military blog, be added to your prayers.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at December 13, 2025 10:14 AM (v23vE)

Absolutely. Prayers up now, and she's in my rotation.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 13, 2025 10:17 AM (h7ZuX)

170 161 Santa has been riding a fire truck around here all morning, sure hasn't been by my house yet
Posted by: Skip

Made some snowballs the other day when we had an inch of snow-now in freezer. Santa will get a surprise when he comes around on the pumper this year. They do it after dark here because the trucks are lit. I'm sure Santa is lit, too. IYKWIMAITYD

Posted by: Penguin Pete at December 13, 2025 10:17 AM (oftw2)

171 a boob and bra thread

Push-up peekaboo training bra!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 10:17 AM (Kt19C)

172 S'puppy, prayers for your bride and you.

Posted by: screaming in digital at December 13, 2025 10:18 AM (UONii)

173 Absolutely. Prayers up now, and she's in my rotation.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 13, 2025 10:17 AM (h7ZuX)


I can't remember if y'all talked, but she was in Corsicana with me, and helped me jealously guard the sourdough starter all the way home! I need to try making that today.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at December 13, 2025 10:18 AM (v23vE)

174 >>. . . It may seem that the rabbit hole is pretty deep, but it's actually just about denying sin and coming up with excuses to do what you want.


Yikes. Wouldn't want people to try to be better, huh?
As my minister will say, people who reinterpret the scripture to validate/support modern culture think they are better than God - he is so judge-y and mean!

Posted by: Lizzy at December 13, 2025 10:19 AM (NuV6c)

175 {{{S'puppy}}}
I know how difficult this is. My thoughts are with you. Sending hugs and much love.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 13, 2025 10:20 AM (t/2Uw)

176 Especially this time of year, it's wonderful to see so many blessings in the Horde. Hallelujah! Prayers for those struggling and ill.

Posted by: LASue at December 13, 2025 10:21 AM (UwBs6)

177 Teresa is the bravest person I know.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 13, 2025 10:22 AM (t/2Uw)

178 But Texas dems have decided to make it a contest between the two most absolutely loathsome candidates they could find. Her opponent, the sad white twink Talerico, who pretends to be some kind of minister, decided to bolster his cred with Democrats by saying that it would have been OK if Mary would have aborted Jesus.
I know that sounds to monstrously ridiculous for anyone to even think - but that’s true “progressive “ dogma right now.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 10:01 AM (k5cxK)

He sounds nice.

Posted by: LASue at December 13, 2025 10:24 AM (UwBs6)

179 Yikes. Wouldn't want people to try to be better, huh?
As my minister will say, people who reinterpret the scripture to validate/support modern culture think they are better than God - he is so judge-y and mean!
Posted by: Lizzy at December 13, 2025 10:19 AM (NuV6c)
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I think very few people bother to actually read Milton's Paradise Lost, but much of it has been internalized by our society in terms of making the devil a sympathetic character whose lieutenants still have some virtues.

Tolkien had a much clearer grasp of the totality of evil, and how it gradually corrupts one completely, to the point where good intentions cannot even be imagined.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 10:24 AM (ZOv7s)

180 It started out as feel-good "nice" Christianity where there really is no hell, just devils we haven't made friends with yet, and since Jesus died for our sins, we can sin as much as we want. In fact, I've seen people argue that we *should* sin, otherwise that grace would just be wasted.

It may seem that the rabbit hole is pretty deep, but it's actually just about denying sin and coming up with excuses to do what you want.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 10:15 AM (ZOv7s)

And people today think they’re coming up with “new ideas” and yet all of those go back to many of the gnostic heresies that began almost as soon as Christianity itself did.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 10:24 AM (k5cxK)

181 In fact, I've seen people argue that we *should* sin, otherwise that grace would just be wasted.


You can't reason with people that fucking stupid.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 13, 2025 10:26 AM (LjSYW)

182 As my minister will say, people who reinterpret the scripture to validate/support modern culture think they are better than God - he is so judge-y and mean!

That horse has already left the barn.

Evangelicalism, in the past fifty years has done nothing but syncretize with the worst of pop culture.

Everything from changing a few words in secular music and rolling that through the so-called "Praise & Worship Team", to the "Come As You Are" (stay as you came) "Seeker Sensitive" pop psychology as a substitute for sanctification foolishness.

Do a honest comparison of the ancient faiths (e.g. Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodox) which heavily relies on spirituality vs the highly materialistic American Religion (Free Will Dispensationalism) and you will witness how far Christianity has collapsed due to secularization.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 10:27 AM (a4flb)

183 A few years back, a bunch of Yankees decided that they were mightily sick and tired of threats, aggessive posturing and all-out sedition. And they took decisive action to address those concerns. Unfortunately, they stopped short of outlawing the Democrat party and unwisely allowed that congenitally corrupt and chronically unhappy band to persist. And here we are at the same point again with a Democrat party still clinging to racist doctrine, hate and envy as the foundations of their miserable existence. Jeez.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at December 13, 2025 10:27 AM (4b7CV)

184 In fact, I've seen people argue that we *should* sin, otherwise that grace would just be wasted.

It may seem that the rabbit hole is pretty deep, but it's actually just about denying sin and coming up with excuses to do what you want.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 10:15 AM (ZOv7s)

And people today think they’re coming up with “new ideas” and yet all of those go back to many of the gnostic heresies that began almost as soon as Christianity itself did.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. (Romans 6:1-4)

Posted by: screaming in digital at December 13, 2025 10:28 AM (UONii)

185 Science!

https://is.gd/BTMYu1

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 10:28 AM (L/fGl)

186 And people today think they’re coming up with “new ideas” and yet all of those go back to many of the gnostic heresies that began almost as soon as Christianity itself did.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 10:24 AM (k5cxK)
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It's really quite edifying to go back. Pelagianism is really a going thing these days, which goes back to the time of St. Augustine.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 10:29 AM (ZOv7s)

187 169 162 Good morning, Horde. I ask that my wife, who is not on this smart military blog, be added to your prayers.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at December 13, 2025 10:14 AM (v23vE)

You got it

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 13, 2025 10:29 AM (LjSYW)

188 Seems one may volunteer to ring bell for the Salvation Army.
Hmm, opportunity to skim cash? Muhuhaha.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 13, 2025 10:29 AM (Kt19C)

189 Finally inside after 3 hours, will have to go out later to clean up my stuff

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 10:31 AM (Ia/+0)

190 Actor Peter Greene died. Had a face that you know and was perfect for playing a bad guy /psycho. Was only 60, but had previous issues with addiction. RIP

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 10:31 AM (D+mpw)

191 So Mike DeWine, whose father was not a mailman but in spirit the mailman lives on in the Ohio statehouse, now faces a Somalian Scam like "Special" Tim Walz.

It seems the low IQ Somalians in Ohio are smart enough to scam a bunch of money from DeWine's favorite money giveaway programs.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 13, 2025 10:32 AM (oAg81)

192 I can't remember if y'all talked, but she was in Corsicana with me, and helped me jealously guard the sourdough starter all the way home! I need to try making that today.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at December 13, 2025 10:18 AM (v23vE)

We did talk, so I am happy to have her image in my mind when I pray for her. Hope your bread does well!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 13, 2025 10:32 AM (h7ZuX)

193 Prominent Guardian columnist, George Monbiot has come out with the ultimate statement of Leftist European attitudes towards mass immigration:

The facts are stark: Europe must open the door to migrants, or face its own extinction

https://tinyurl.com/5n8e8skp

Europe is facing demographic collapse due to low birth rates, you see, so Europe needs mass immigration, and it's racist to question where those immigrants are coming from.

After all, British roast beef originally comes from the Middle East, and everything in European civilization comes from somewhere else, so there is no reason to object to turning much of England into a province of Pakistan.

Weirdly, Monbiot is Jewish, but importing millions of people who want to kill him apparently isn't a problem.

Posted by: Blackadder! at December 13, 2025 10:34 AM (xTIDn)

194 Evangelicalism, in the past fifty years has done nothing but syncretize with the worst of pop culture.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 10:27 AM (a4flb)
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I disagree. There was an effort to bend the popular culture in a Christian direction and it was somewhat successful, but it was undermined by Evangelical leaders who started pushing people to withdraw from "the world" and stop contesting the popular culture.

Rod Dreher's "The Benedict Option" is the Catholic/Orthodox version of this: quit the battle, go hide, hope things turn around later.

And evil responded with a massive offensive on every front. It has been beaten back but is still seething and quite powerful. I'm pleased to see more young people flocking to Christ and more orthodox Christians taking firm stands. "Nice" Christianity is dead.

And we've also identified those who betrayed their flocks with bad advice, whether intentionally or not.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 10:34 AM (ZOv7s)

195 Actor Peter Greene died. Had a face that you know and was perfect for playing a bad guy /psycho. Was only 60, but had previous issues with addiction. RIP
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 13, 2025 10:31 AM (D+mpw)
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Just like the great Peter Green who played for The Bluesbreakers and early Fleetwood Mac.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 13, 2025 10:35 AM (oAg81)

196 At 8:30 this morning, there was bright blue sky cross crossed by a number of very large and ongoing chem trails. At 9:45, the sky is entirely white with thin cloud cover. No wonder it has been so darn cold. I am convinced that the powers that be want us back in an ice age.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 13, 2025 10:36 AM (t/2Uw)

197 The other entertaining off-field sports story this week is as the high school team which traveled from Philadelphia to Florida. The night before the big game, 8 or 9 of them decided it would be fun to loot the local Dick’s sports store.

Those young men are the product of a poor environment. There's nothing wrong with them, I can prove it.

Posted by: Randolph Duke at December 13, 2025 10:39 AM (R/m4+)

198 Well, gotta go get things done. God be with you!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 10:39 AM (ZOv7s)

199 good morning MisHum, Horde

Posted by: callsign claymore at December 13, 2025 10:39 AM (pd4dZ)

200 Peter Greene also played Lightfoot in The Usual Suspects....who may or may not have existed.

Not to be confused with the Peter Steele of Type O Negative who also died young.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 13, 2025 10:39 AM (qwx/I)

201 What kind of pay do Professional Handlers get?

Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 10:40 AM (W7XSX)

202 Daily Race War Update

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 13, 2025 10:40 AM (qwx/I)

203 It may seem that the rabbit hole is pretty deep, but it's actually just about denying sin and coming up with excuses to do what you want.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd


You have inspired me within the past few months to more deeply explore the ancient faiths (RC and EO in particular). Along that path one can't help but look at these State Religions and see that core to their implementation and success that they must reject or minimalize Election and more from the individual to The Church, such where a Mafioso can kill a competitor while on his way to Mass and there be no conflict.

Get Baptized into the Church, leverage Means of Grace to an ultimate destination of Theosis. This is all pretty spiritual and treats sin and grace as individual barter transactions - do some sins, confess for forgiveness, do some penance, do some Purgatory, wash rinse repeat.

Faith + Works.

The Reformed view is much more different in that Sin can only be canceled by Grace through Faith.

Evangelicals, OTOH, view Sin as a Mistake, a goof, accident - IOW, they have traded in Absolute Truth for Relative Truth.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 10:41 AM (a4flb)

204 Daily Race War Update -- white woman victim of brutal acid attack in Savannah, GA. Suspect at large. Truly one of the most vile crimes imaginable.

I'm sure the AWFL community will commit to finding the assailant.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 13, 2025 10:41 AM (qwx/I)

205 Good morning, all.

30°F and clear blue skies in western CO.

And if it hasn't been said yet:

Go Army! Beat Navy!

Posted by: muldoon at December 13, 2025 10:42 AM (/iMjX)

206 There's a football game today?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 13, 2025 10:44 AM (dct30)

207 And evil responded with a massive offensive on every front. It has been beaten back but is still seething and quite powerful. I'm pleased to see more young people flocking to Christ and more orthodox Christians taking firm stands. "Nice" Christianity is dead.

And we've also identified those who betrayed their flocks with bad advice, whether intentionally or not.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 10:34 AM (ZOv7s)

I think much of the drama swirling around TPUSA has been a well organized and well financed attempt by demonic forces to stage a takeover of the movement after the murder if one of thei greatest enemies, Charlie Kirk.

But as an example of how some good can still result from evil - a whole lot of false prophets have dropped their masks and exposed themselves.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 10:45 AM (k5cxK)

208 Every time Trump does something, he gets sued. Who pays the lawyers?

We need a new rule: Whenever a lawsuit is filed the lawyers should disclose who pays them.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 13, 2025 10:46 AM (dct30)

209 Feel free to cheer along!

Sssssssssss Boom! Ah!
USMA rah rah!
USMA rah rah!
Hoo rah Hoo rah
ArmaY rah!
Team! Team! Team!

(NOTE: USMA in this instance pronounced "You-Smay")

Posted by: muldoon at December 13, 2025 10:48 AM (/iMjX)

210 I agree that nice Christianity is dead. Now we need to put a gun into the hands of every disaffected young man, every young man deprived of companionship by maniac young women, deprived of a career by multiculturalism, and deprived of meaning by toxic femininity.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 13, 2025 10:50 AM (qwx/I)

211 If Muldoon supports Army I will too.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 13, 2025 10:50 AM (dct30)

212 I disagree. There was an effort to bend the popular culture in a Christian direction and it was somewhat successful, but it was undermined by Evangelical leaders who started pushing people to withdraw from "the world" and stop contesting the popular culture.

That example is such a tiny slice of Evangelicalism, it may not even be Evangelicalism.

Lets be clear, while the definition of Evangelicalism is rather amorphous and not homogenous, its core characteristic is Prescient Election (which in itself is heresy). To get there, you need a certain God Is My Co-Pilot sentiment.

Take a look at pretty much any commentary on Galatians 5:22 (Fruit of the Spirit) Evangelicals have Orwelled each and every term into its secular equivalent and have totally abandoned any of the spiritual meaning (which is ironic as it is a spiritual gift).

For example, their definition of "Joy" is indistinguishable from Euphoria. "Patience" is the ability to deal with jerk drivers or someone who is dawdling. Broadly speaking its vibes that can be regulated through psychotropic pharmaceuticals.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 10:50 AM (a4flb)

213 I disagree. There was an effort to bend the popular culture in a Christian direction and it was somewhat successful, but it was undermined by Evangelical leaders who started pushing people to withdraw from "the world" and stop contesting the popular culture.


I'm not sure I completely agree with that assessment.

Evangelism has a a fundamental flaw in its assessment of success. It may perhaps be akin to the western mindset that growth is numerical in nature. And while this can be true, it can also be misleading. We are called to go into the world and make disciples, not converts.

So a church that brings 1 parishioner into an ardent walk with Christ has more successfully Evangelized than 100 mega churches that have 1 million members, of which none live out their faith.

The big tent model of the western evangelical church focused more on boutique ecclesiology which reached out to non-Christian lifestyles, often sacrificing the truth in its quest for numbers (and I'm sure in some instances, land holdings and income).

It would be difficult to look at crusades like the Billy Graham ministry and say it had "withdrawn from the world".....

Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 10:51 AM (2NGiN)

214 Martini Farmer

Sounds like you're somewhat close to the Western Kentucky Parkway. I think Elizabethtown west? Been over 40 years.
One of the prettiest drives I've ever taken. Early April. On the way to Kentucky Lake. There had been an early morning rain but mid-morning and the sun had come out. The redbuds and dogwoods were blooming on the hillsides.
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We have property and a home in WV and take the Martha Lane Pkwy east to get there. It's a beautiful drive in the spring. Sometimes in the fall too. Absolutely sucks during winter tho'.

And, yea... we're not far from E-town. Hate that place.
Posted by: TeeJ

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 10:53 AM (NwnyJ)

215 I think much of the drama swirling around TPUSA has been a well organized and well financed attempt by demonic forces to stage a takeover of the movement after the murder if one of their greatest enemies, Charlie Kirk.

No disagreement here.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 10:53 AM (a4flb)

216 There's a football game today?"

Let's go Mets!

No?

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 10:53 AM (XuXeR)

217 Along that path one can't help but look at these State Religions and see that core to their implementation and success that they must reject or minimalize Election and more from the individual to The Church, such where a Mafioso can kill a competitor while on his way to Mass and there be no conflict.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 10:41 AM (a4flb)
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This is abjectly false. It is true that people pervert teachings to make a false peace with their sins, but there is nothing unique to any particular faith in that respect.

Nor is the use of the Sacraments a wash/rinse/repeat cycle, but instead an iterative path to salvation, inching along by recognizing and removing sin from one's life.

Repeatedly sinning obviates the grace of Reconciliation. Where it works is that you are forced to recognize that you are not using your free will when you sin, but becoming a slave to it, confessing the same things over and over again. Finally, you break the chain, and there is great joy in being free of that compulsion.

There is a 'corporate' aspect to faith because we are not atomized individuals but part of a larger community and our sins affect that community.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 10:55 AM (ZOv7s)

218 We are called to go into the world and make disciples, not converts.

Well said. Nothing to add there.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 10:55 AM (a4flb)

219 ....Instead what it appears to have done is to make "Christian" into a brand rather than a life.

The natural entailment then is to merge popular culture into ever-increasing bastardization of the church. And so we get Christian rap, lesbian pastors, pro-choice congregations and the like.

The evangelical church is often a million members wide, but only an inch of faith deep.

Having participated in many a discussion of "outreach programs" in church board meetings, rarely is it suggested that we "live more piously", but rather most suggestions are hinged on ideas that seem to be more modern or more entertaining.

I'd argue that rather than withdraw itself from society, the western evangelical church movement has sought to adopt and insert itself into society, but not in ways which confirm the church, but rather weaken its principles.

Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 10:57 AM (2NGiN)

220 The big tent model of the western evangelical church focused more on boutique ecclesiology which reached out to non-Christian lifestyles, often sacrificing the truth in its quest for numbers (and I'm sure in some instances, land holdings and income).

That is a broadside attack of Billy Sunday and Charles Finney.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 10:57 AM (a4flb)

221 Being "Personally saved" does nothing for your neighbor, whereas acts of charity and mercy are visible signs of God's love for all to see. The greatest miracle is not healing, or even rising from the dead, but converting another to the faith.

The Church has a richness and depth and knowledge that even now, 19 years after my conversion, I am still struck by the repository of wisdom She contains.

I am also humbled by the examples of John Henry Newman, G.K. Chesterton, Evelyn Waugh and countless others who - often against their will - were drawn to the Church.

I was one of them. A Catholic-insulting jackass, raised to hold the Church in contempt and the last thing anyone ever expected was what actually happened. The people who knew me thought I was faking, or playing a prank or working an angle. Even my grandparents wondered what the "real" story was. Well, except for my mother's mother, who was Catholic, patiently taught me prayers, enforced the requirement on her wayward children and grandchildren that Christmas Mass was mandatory. She knew it would happen and had a very knowing smile when I told her.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 11:01 AM (ZOv7s)

222 and helped me jealously guard the sourdough starter all the way home! I need to try making that today.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless)

*********

I've got a batch in process today. Sadly, since Halloween my starter has been sluggish if not downright moribund. I think it looked outside and saw the early winter sky and leafless trees and decided to hibernate. This go round I took some steps to goose it and it got a good vigorous feed. Hope yours turns out well!

Posted by: muldoon at December 13, 2025 11:02 AM (/iMjX)

223 It's a beautiful drive in the spring. Sometimes in the fall too. Absolutely sucks during winter tho'."

Seconded. Spring thru there can be just lovely... but winter, from Nashville, Bowling Green, Elizabethtown, off to central WV? Yikes. Have done that twice, glad to have BS Badlands...

Posted by: man at December 13, 2025 11:03 AM (XuXeR)

224 Prayers for all.

Posted by: Mick at December 13, 2025 11:03 AM (HFx9z)

225 Prayers for all of those on the list.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 13, 2025 11:04 AM (XeU6L)

226 I'd argue that rather than withdraw itself from society, the western evangelical church movement has sought to adopt and insert itself into society, but not in ways which confirm the church, but rather weaken its principles.

This gets a little weird, but I'm OK with that. As a confirmed believer in the Doctrines of Grace, unlike Finney, no one can manipulate someone's emotions into "Accepting Jesus" - that work is purely by the Paraclete.

So as for the false piety in the American Religion (aka Evangelicalism) I'm OK with that because the LORD will call out his own, and other than many Evangelicals actively hostile at "Calvinists", they are particularly ignorant of Scripture but accepting of the concept of Jesus (even though they engage in the blasphemous What Would Jesus Do vanity virtue theater).

In other words they eschew sound doctrine under the premise of "A Child Like Faith" as being an endorsement of almost total ignorance of doctrines and creeds.

I'm OK with it, because unlike the Left, they aren't trying to kill me and they pretend to be nice and "Christ like" which is a plus for civility and a high trust society.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 11:04 AM (a4flb)

227 Scott Pelley of 60 Minutes claims they can’t get people on the show because of the “fear that has spread across the country."
He then praises himself for soldiering on in the face of such immense difficulty.

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Maybe change it to 60 Seconds although, in fairness, I still wouldn't watch.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 11:06 AM (L/fGl)

228 It would be difficult to look at crusades like the Billy Graham ministry and say it had "withdrawn from the world".....
Posted by: Doubting Thomas at December 13, 2025 10:51 AM (2NGiN)
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I was speaking of the early 2000s and teens.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 11:06 AM (ZOv7s)

229 Okay, now I'm being compelled to log off by pressing chores. God be with you all!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 13, 2025 11:08 AM (ZOv7s)

230 Christmas music on, but Bing Crosby broke in with his racist slave holding Jingle Bells, now back to Christmas music

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 11:09 AM (Ia/+0)

231 Being "Personally saved" does nothing for your neighbor, whereas acts of charity and mercy are visible signs of God's love for all to see. The greatest miracle is not healing, or even rising from the dead, but converting another to the faith.


This is absolute Gold and is what is missing in our post-modern materialistic world view. What I am greatly appreciating in the ancient faiths is the orientation towards Theosis rather than obtaining the Get Out Of Hell card.

I have a better understanding now of praying to departed Saints and how that is even possible, and the core of that is the assuming, not the essence, but the energy of God which would include Love, which too has been bastardized by Western ethics.

I'm developing on this topic as I exorcise more of the materialistic programming that has been a part of my Church history and tradition.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 11:10 AM (a4flb)

232 Maybe change it to 60 Seconds although, in fairness, I still wouldn't watch.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

I'd love to use a ball peen hammer on that stopwatch!

Posted by: Bang! Ding! Ow! at December 13, 2025 11:14 AM (oftw2)

233 Okay, now I'm being compelled to log off by pressing chores. God be with you all!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd


*********

Oh, come on. Exercise your free will!

😀

Posted by: muldoon at December 13, 2025 11:15 AM (/iMjX)

234 Amanda Seyfried says “socialism is a gorgeous idea” as she grapples with the current state of America:

"How about we all don’t have any kind of agendas? How about our agenda is take care of each other? I know [socialism] doesn’t work perfectly, or that people understand what the word actually means. For me, it’s taking care of each other. If I have more money, I can spend more money on other people.”

-
Well, you're the 1% of the 1% now. Why don't you redistribute some of your wealth this way?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 13, 2025 11:16 AM (L/fGl)

235 There's a football game today?"

Let's go Mets!

No?
Posted by: man

Im picking the Expos to win by 3 goals.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 13, 2025 11:17 AM (9iyS+)

236 Nood.

Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 11:17 AM (W7XSX)

237 Nor is the use of the Sacraments a wash/rinse/repeat cycle, but instead an iterative path to salvation, inching along by recognizing and removing sin from one's life.

Try to come from the perspective of Election, which is very individualistic - the Book of Life is not a hotel registry where you can walk up and write your name. Abram didn't approach God on his own volition and demand to have the Adamic covenant go through him and his seed.

But a State Religion can not survive in an Election soteriology, so it comes up with an alternative soteriology. You happen to agree with the State Religion version and there is a lot of wisdom in that view particularly in the areas where it intersects with Election.

What I am sensing is that the Reformed faith has departed too far from what you are saying so that there is less and less doctrinal overlap and commonality.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 11:17 AM (a4flb)

238 I have been rereading Jonathan Edwards where he doesn't have the ancient faith vocabulary, but is pretty close to describing in alternate terms much of the Theosis that is core to ancient faiths.

The canvas I am working on takes First Century church doctrines, sees the implementation at scale through ancient faiths, sees what happened up to the Great Schism then watch as East and West refine and syncretize the doctrines to fit in with the Greater Culture.

The nailing of the 95 Thesis to the Wittenburg door was not THE inflection point, for reformation of Rome was going on years before this event. It was inevitable. So I am trying to winnow out the chaff and restore that which has been lost independent of modern and post modern influences and traditions.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 11:24 AM (a4flb)

239 Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 11:24 AM (a4flb)

You read Jonathan Edward's? That's great. The only people on here who know of Jonathan Edwards at least from what they have said only know "Sinners in the Hand of Angry God" which they read in high school or college as the example of a terrible Puritan. Since he was the most prolific religious writer of his time period, it's probably not to judge him just on that. He is one of those historical figures whom I have crush on.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 11:54 AM (PFs9e)

240 So Mike DeWine, whose father was not a mailman but in spirit the mailman lives on in the Ohio statehouse, now faces a Somalian Scam like "Special" Tim Walz.

It seems the low IQ Somalians in Ohio are smart enough to scam a bunch of money from DeWine's favorite money giveaway programs.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 13, 2025 10:32 AM (oAg81)


DeWine also imported thousands of Haitians and dumped them on the hard-luck city of Springfield: somewhere around 20,000 dumped on a city of 60,000.

No way that's going to distort housing and social costs, and cost Americans jobs. /s

The Haitians promptly ate the ducks at the public parks; residents were complaining that household pets were also eaten. There were at least two deaths (a child on a school bus, and an old lady taking a trash can to the curb) due Haitians driving like maniacs.

DeWine is one of those Christians that seems to have more compassion for the poor if they were born in a foreign country, rather than born in the U.S.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 13, 2025 01:54 PM (pJWtt)

Daily Tech News 13 December 2025

Top Story



Tech News

  • Can the Steam Machine really run games at 4k 60Hz as Valve claims?

    In many cases, yes. (Hot Hardware)

    The Steam Machine isn't out yet, but the specs are public and they're very close to an existing AMD CPU and GPU so it is possible to build an equivalent system and test performance right now.

    On indie titles like Hollow Knight: Silksong it delivers 4k at 120Hz, or close to it. That's not a particularly demanding title so it's not a huge surprise.

    On big-budget titles like Baldur's Gate 3, Cyberpunk 2077, Elden Ring, and Monster Hunter Wilds you can expect 60Hz at 1440p, but at 4k only two of these titles achieved a consistent 60Hz.

    And this is with graphical settings and upscaling tweaked appropriately, not with everything simply set to maximum quality. But this is not a high-end system, and isn't expected to have a high-end price. It's supposed to just work.

    Will I buy one when it comes out? Maybe. Depends on the price. I just picked up that mini-PC with a faster CPU (though a slower GPU) and a lot more memory for around $600, so it would have to compare well with that.

    Edit: Now that I compare those benchmark scores, the Steam Deck Machine doesn't offer me that much. The processor on my new mini-PC is 39% faster and the graphics 36% slower than the Steam Machine, and it has 64GB of shared memory rather than 16GB plus 8GB of DRAM. Since I also have a full desktop system and an Xbox (gathering dust) I think I'm good.


  • Framework has increased memory prices by 50% on its DIY laptops. (Framework)

    That doesn't seem too bad given that retail prices have increased by around 300% in the past couple of months.

    Pre-built laptops and the Framework Desktop which comes with up to 128GB of RAM have not increased in price, nor have prices changed for existing pre-orders.


  • Russian hackers have deployed new ransomware that encrypts all of your files - with an interesting twist. (The Register)

    The twist is that the decryption key is hardcoded into the ransomware so you can just decrypt all your files youself.


  • Don't be stupid, be a smarty, come on and join the Sozialistische Einheitspartei Deutschlands. (Reclaim the Net)

    Berlin's regional government has brought back the Stasi.


  • I planted my plants. I had 16 native shrubs of various sorts sitting in pots waiting - several different bottlebrushes and grevilleas, a westringia, a boronia, and a babingtonia, plus a few kangaroo paws in various colours.

    All but the kangaroo paws got planted today.

    Needed to wait for it to rain to break up the ground where I planned this - it had been dry for a while and the soil was rock hard - and then wait for it to stop raining to get some supplies delivered. Then it rained again and that ground got covered in weeds.

    So today I pulled out all those weeds, dug out some regular grass which I didn't want growing into this area, dug out some patches of native tussock-grass which is not technically a weed but which I also didn't want there, dug in some gypsum to help break up the soil and some potting mix tailored for native plants to improve it, and then dug eleven holes (hitting rocks several times and on two occasions large metal staples left behind by the builders), filled those holes with more potting mix, and planted everything but those kangaroo paws, which will go in another part of the garden.

    Which will all look great in a year or so as it grows in but right now, ouch.

    Need to go back and cover it with bark chips, but that will definitely be another day.



Apple Bacon Interlude



Turns out that bacon-flavoured apples taste bad. Who knew?



Musical Interlude



Song is King by Kanaria, covered by Hololive's Mori Calliope and Gawr Gura. Gura wasn't the most technically skilled vocalist in Hololive (she now streams independently but still as a fish, having found her niche there) but she has a way of putting her emotions into a song that makes her stand out.


Disclaimer: Sameko Saba? Literally shark-girl mackerel?

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:00 AM




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1 w00t

Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 04:01 AM (RuTUS)

2 Poke.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at December 13, 2025 04:03 AM (BLOW1)

3 Mornin'

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 13, 2025 04:03 AM (+YRf1)

4 Maybe it's the caching logic. I could see your comment, then it disappeared, then when I poked it reappeared.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at December 13, 2025 04:04 AM (BLOW1)

5 >>>Which will all look great in a year or so as it grows in

Yay!

Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 04:05 AM (RuTUS)

6 4 Maybe it's the caching logic. I could see your comment, then it disappeared, then when I poked it reappeared.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at December 13, 2025 04:04 AM (BLOW1)

And it "knew" my comment was there, because I'm still FIRST.

Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 04:07 AM (RuTUS)

7 HALP!

Pixy, if you have a moment to spare, I'm told Miklos has inadvertently gotten himself banned impersonating the troll raimondo again.

Miklos's hash is (N7hqt), if that helps.

Thanks for anything you can do.



Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 13, 2025 04:07 AM (z5QST)

8 You know what tastes fantastic? My apple bacon onion jam. Don't fuck with the apples, cook with them.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 13, 2025 04:10 AM (6Bc88)

9 In case anyone missed it: In the righthand sidebar, in the post about Megyn/Candace, the second stretch of red-highlighted text ("Candace Owens says") links to a video of a woman (I don't know who) mocking Megyn Kelly's failing to hear anything negative that Candace Owens says. I think it's very well-done.

Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 04:12 AM (RuTUS)

10 Just reading the gardening prep and planting routine made my back and shoulders sore. There can be a lot of satisfaction in gardening. But I sure don’t find it in weeding.

Especially when you can use power tools. And chemicals.

Good morning horde.

Posted by: Pete Bog at December 13, 2025 04:15 AM (EU9xD)

11 7 HALP!

Pixy, if you have a moment to spare, I'm told Miklos has inadvertently gotten himself banned impersonating the troll raimondo again.

Miklos's hash is (N7hqt), if that helps.

Thanks for anything you can do.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls


I can't see a ban against Miklos's most recent IP address, so I'm not sure what happened there.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at December 13, 2025 04:21 AM (BLOW1)

12 I can't see a ban against Miklos's most recent IP address, so I'm not sure what happened there.
Posted by: Pixy Misa
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It happened after he socked as 'raimondo on tap'

Do we still have the "TB3K" (of olden times) here?

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 04:25 AM (rdVOm)

13 Ok, really g'night now!

Thanks, Pixy!

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 04:29 AM (rdVOm)

14
bad news: dickhead van dyke, who is a pervert shill for the Democrat party, made it to 100

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 13, 2025 04:30 AM (zlW+y)

15
Incidentally, in Australia, he's known as Dyke Von Dick, because everything is backwards there.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Amusing International Facts at December 13, 2025 04:32 AM (zlW+y)

16 Back to the Somalis. We know they are illegal more ways than one. A C-5 Galaxy set up as air bus will carry 270 passengers. Five Galaxy's is 1350 people.

Round them up at night, fly them to Somalia and leave. Let the judges argue in court why they should come back. One at a time.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 04:38 AM (OfmEX)

17
lolnvidia: "To put a number on it, the rumor mill is pointing towards the RTX 6090 having at least a 40% uplift in performance over the RTX 5090, along with the watts being pumped through it going up again in excess of 600W."

Sure. I believe the watts parts.

So all the rumor-mongers have been wrong about the 50-eries "super" models, and now they'll be wrong about the 60-series, which we probably won't see, (my guess), for another 2 years, October '27.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Amusing International Facts at December 13, 2025 04:40 AM (zlW+y)

18 haha @aelfred_D

Philosophy Of Physics @PhilosophyOfPhy

What is your favorite opening line of a book?

THERMODYNAMICS AND STATISTICAL MECHANICS

1.1. INTRODUCTION: THERMODYNAMICS AND STATISTICAL MECHANICS OF THE PERFECT GAS

Ludwig Boltzmann, who spent much of his life studying statistical mechanics, died in 1906, by his own hand. Paul Ehrenfest, carrying on the work, died similarly in 1933. Now it is our turn to study statistical mechanics.

Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 04:43 AM (RuTUS)

19 This happened in Paris . Flashmob turns up to sing "Carol of the Bells. " Maybe there is hope for them yet:

https://tinyurl.com/2bw2he6p

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 04:45 AM (PFs9e)

20
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 13, 2025 04:47 AM (tljrc)

21 G'Day everyone
If I didn't stay up a hour later I would have been on time

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 04:48 AM (Ia/+0)

22
Skip, I don't know how you do it. Getting up in the middle of the night on days you don't have to.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Amusing International Facts at December 13, 2025 04:50 AM (zlW+y)

23 Joy and strength in the Lord. Nehemiah 8:5-6, 8-12:

https://tinyurl.com/56pc48tw

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 04:52 AM (PFs9e)

24 What's happening to Germany should be a lesson to us but I doubt that the middlings are aware and the one's who are don't understand how close we are.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 04:55 AM (OfmEX)

25
Mr. Coffee machine killed the Percolator.
And that marked the beginning of the downfall of the USA...

Clearly a plot devised by the Kremlin, Mr. Coffee debuted in 1972 and quickly became a huge hit. Here is former Baseball player Joe Dimaggio, obviously a Soviet agent, in a TV ad for the commie coffee maker in 1974:

https://is.gd/Q3Ydzy

Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 13, 2025 05:00 AM (zlW+y)

26 Actually last night didn't get up once, that is very rare

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 05:01 AM (Ia/+0)

27 Plants bring a house to life. Before you know it you will have a wonderful view.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 13, 2025 05:01 AM (OfmEX)

28 I still do percolator every day, big pot today. Have a small one that makes not much more than my big cup, 24 Oz I think

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 05:04 AM (Ia/+0)

29 To me, hands down, at this time, the most sensible US news-oriented twitter account is

@bonchieredstate

He's got a top research team checking everything before it gets posted, is my guess.

Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 05:13 AM (RuTUS)

30 Bizarre Tik Tok trend using ChapGPT encourages a young woman to commit suicide. Maybe it's a really , really bad idea to use Chap GPT and " talk to the devil. " From NY Post:

https://tinyurl.com/5n8paum8

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 05:14 AM (rZCVI)

31
We have several bottlebrushes in our little garden. Bees and hummingbirds love them.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 05:17 AM (tgvbd)

32
Ludwig Boltzmann, who spent much of his life studying statistical mechanics, died in 1906, by his own hand. Paul Ehrenfest, carrying on the work, died similarly in 1933. Now it is our turn to study statistical mechanics.
Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 04:43 AM (RuTUS)

_________

I studied Stat Thermo for my P Chem course and I frequently wanted to kill myself. Because I'm no mathematician.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 05:21 AM (tgvbd)

33 Turns out that bacon-flavoured apples taste bad. Who knew?
----
I refuse to believe this.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 13, 2025 05:28 AM (ESVrU)

34 I think my parents had the GE Avocado green complete set of 3 appliances, toaster, percolator and combo can opener, knife sharpening & kitty cat attractor.

One problem with the Mr. Coffee style, with the water reservoir is hard water will build up scale and sediment over time. This very gradually lowers the water temperature that can be achieved and the coffee isn’t very good. The manufacturers recommend running vinegar through periodically but I could never see any results with that. A pour through does make a tastier cup.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 05:35 AM (ebWKH)

35 I am not one who thinks bacon can fix anything

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 05:40 AM (Ia/+0)

36 Good morning! I bet that backyard is gonna be great, PM. Any day working in the garden or doing landscape work is better that the best day at the office.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 13, 2025 05:44 AM (3Ope8)

37 G'mornin' everyone, LOL!

still using my 40 year old Melitta cone for coffee; in fact I should do so immediately!

We use strong citric acid solutions for lime scale removal, seems to work better than vinegar (typically 5% acetic acid)

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 13, 2025 05:44 AM (Cjt/F)

38 https://tinyurl.com/2ess65ez
The Democrats war room
How they get their talking points out fast and universal

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 05:50 AM (Ia/+0)

39 Yeah, the water at the AO was pretty tough, ordinary vinegar didn’t even phase it in the slightest.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 05:50 AM (ebWKH)

40
Can the Steam Machine really run games


Two "The Longest Yard" movies say, "Yes"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 13, 2025 05:53 AM (xG4kz)

41 Frankenstein apples. What's wrong with an apple-flavored apple?

These next-gen mad scientists are dabbling in the black arts.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 13, 2025 05:54 AM (1zOXE)

42 Evening and morning, Saturday toilers and early risers! * Blinks * * Blinks again * Eleven days to Christmas Eve. How'd it get to be so late already?

Miss LInda is getting over her cold, I think. I haven't caught anything -- yet. I'm awake, partly, drinking my coffee, and trying to shift the furry thugs' feeding time down the line a bit so Stirling won't be inclined to wake me at four am.

Whassup?

("Kangaroo paws"? Got to follow Pixy's link)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 06:00 AM (wzUl9)

43 I woke up laughing this morning.

I must've slept funny.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at December 13, 2025 06:03 AM (cxFcK)

44 One problem with the Mr. Coffee style, with the water reservoir is hard water will build up scale and sediment over time. This very gradually lowers the water temperature that can be achieved and the coffee isn’t very good. The manufacturers recommend running vinegar through periodically but I could never see any results with that. A pour through does make a tastier cup.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025


***
I do the vinegar run-through when my Braun coffeemaker turns on the "Clean" light. A half-pot of white vinegar, then two full pots of fresh water. I like being able to set the whole thing up the night before. Then I get up, turn the coffee on, stumble back to the head, and when I return the coffee is ready to pour.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 06:03 AM (wzUl9)

45 I can't see a ban against Miklos's most recent IP address, so I'm not sure what happened there.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at December 13, 2025 04:21 AM (BLOW1

Thanks for checking. Sorry for the goose chase.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 13, 2025 06:04 AM (+n72I)

46 Turns out that bacon-flavoured apples taste bad. Who knew?

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that, if the apple tastes bad, it doesn't taste like bacon.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 13, 2025 06:04 AM (ExV1e)

47 The Vermont Country Store still offers a coffee percolator. I've considered getting one.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 06:05 AM (wzUl9)

48 bad news: dickhead van dyke, who is a pervert shill for the Democrat party, made it to 100

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 13, 2025 04:30 AM (zlW+y)


https://youtu.be/Crif5E67ar0

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 13, 2025 06:06 AM (ExV1e)

49 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Rejoinder: Gojira = gorilla-whale

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 13, 2025 06:08 AM (yNJrI)

50 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at December 13, 2025 06:08 AM (2Ez/1)

51 Spider solitaire is evil

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 06:09 AM (Ia/+0)

52 Bill Maher?

AG retweeted
@aghamilton29
Blue Georgia
@BlueATLGeorgia
Nov 8
Bill Maher: "Tucker Carlson was like the old-school country-club Republican. Then he became the world’s oldest Groyper — having on Holocaust deniers and asking, 'Who do you think were the good guys in World War II?' So now he had on this Nick Fuentes guy, and never challenged him."

Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 06:10 AM (RuTUS)

53 Tucker is chasing the dragon. He's well off enough to just retire and enjoy life but there's a nagging hole in his soul driving him to be a force in this world. I used to listen to this dude but he's gone around the bend and I could give two fucks about any of his mindthoughts.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 13, 2025 06:16 AM (1zOXE)

54 Yeah, I penciled out the cost and hassle of all that vinegar, it’s cheaper to chuck the damn thing out and buy a new one.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 06:22 AM (ebWKH)

55 Powerline Week in Pictures is up!

also this, via Sarah Hoyt over @ Insty:

https://thelawdogfiles.substack.com/p/a-new-christmas-fable

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 13, 2025 06:23 AM (Cjt/F)

56 These federal judges are out of control! Who do they think we are, Trump? Go piss up a rope Judge, we got all your pictures...nice family you got there. Be a shame, ya know?

Posted by: Apple, Inc. at December 13, 2025 06:24 AM (R/m4+)

57 The word is out there Marxists want the country flooded with 3rd world people.

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 06:27 AM (Ia/+0)

58 Reg’ler Sherlock Holmes they are, they cracked the code! Extraordinary.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 06:29 AM (ebWKH)

59
The word is out there Marxists want the country flooded with 3rd world people.
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 06:27 AM (Ia/+0)


I sometimes wonder if it was an act of actual malevolence (we want to replace our native population) or just another left-wing cock-up. I mean, you could, if you were so inclined, think the Left took that "all cultures are equal" stuff seriously, combined with a total lack of understanding of the existing culture in this country.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 06:32 AM (tgvbd)

60 Lookin like we're heading for some cold wind outta the north and some much cooler temps later on today. Gah! Better break out the blankets for the patio.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 13, 2025 06:33 AM (3Ope8)

61
I loved both Statistical Mechanics and Thermodynamics, up to a point. As both were an integral part of a year-long Physical Chemistry course, they were integral parts of the virtual threshing machine that separated those who could hack it and those who could not.

Our class was almost all Chemistry majors and Chemical Engineering majors. The ChemE majors dreaded this class, so much so that I came to believe that the "duh duh duhhhh!" sound effect ought to be a mandatory teaching "aid" for the curriculum:

https://youtu.be/_zrMykBnidM

As for the instructor, Dr. Leslie Leifer, he was a curmudgeonly legend in his own right. Perhaps my favorite moment in the year happened right near the start. We were taking our first exam. During it, Dr. Leifer, who rocked a pair of coke bottle bottom eyeglasses, stopped at the desk of my roommate and asked him, "Are you in this class?" As if someone would simply drop in to have a go at a P Chem exam for shits and grins! I still laugh at the absurdity of that question.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 13, 2025 06:36 AM (xG4kz)

62
Please. They are Frankenapples.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 13, 2025 06:40 AM (xG4kz)

63 It doesn't take much hardware by today's standards to do 4K@60Hz. That is, if you don't what looks like an upscaled PS1 game. without a specific game in mind it's a meaningless question.

Posted by: Epobirs at December 13, 2025 06:41 AM (/0z9K)

64 I sometimes wonder if it was an act of actual malevolence
——

Don’t. They have explained themselves for decades, what they wanted to do, what they were going to do, and why. Malice aforethought.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 06:41 AM (ebWKH)

65
The word is out there Marxists want the country flooded with 3rd world people.
Posted by: Skip
-----
I sometimes wonder if it was an act of actual malevolence (we want to replace our native population) or just another left-wing cock-up. I mean, you could, if you were so inclined, think the Left took that "all cultures are equal" stuff seriously, combined with a total lack of understanding of the existing culture in this country.
Posted by: Hadrian

It's easy to look at them as though they are ignorami. I belive they honesty are stupid enough, but the hatred and evil inside them and loathing of America as founded are what cause them to do what they do.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 13, 2025 06:43 AM (QVmho)

66 well put!

malice aforethought, beyond any shadow of doubt.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 13, 2025 06:44 AM (Cjt/F)

67 A very good WiP

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 06:49 AM (Ia/+0)

68
"I am Professor Harris. I work with systems where the number of particles is..." ( writes this on the chalkboard ) "... zero or one. If you want to work with systems to two or more particles, go sign up for Professor Miller's course."

-- actual "welcome to this class" statement from the UC Berkeley Chemistry graduate program in the autumn of 1976. It was a world apart.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 13, 2025 06:49 AM (xG4kz)

69 Flying Down to Rio, the first pairing of Ginger Rogers and Fred Astaire, is on Movies! right now. The startling thing is that neither is the actual lead. An actor named Gene Raymond plays a pilot (thus the "flying" part of the title). I swear he sounds *exactly* like Jason Alexander!
Every time I hear his voice in this film, I think, "What is George Costanza doing in a 1933 musical . . .?"

I only know Raymond from his guest turn on a Man From U.N.C.L.E. years later.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 06:49 AM (wzUl9)

70 I am hoping to get outside asap to do some metallurgy
It's in the 20s but still Air now

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 06:50 AM (Ia/+0)

71 Good morning morons

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 06:52 AM (9ipOP)

72
I sometimes wonder if it was an act of actual malevolence (we want to replace our native population) or just another left-wing cock-up.


There is a substantial component of mental illness involved, else why would white people wander about and curse the existence of white people? Self-awareness approaching "zero", right there!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 13, 2025 06:53 AM (xG4kz)

73 Coming soon...Gwyneth Paltrow Apples.

Take a bite, feels so right!

Posted by: Gwyneth Paltrow at December 13, 2025 06:53 AM (R/m4+)

74
Gwyneth Paltrow Apples


"You got apple in my pussy!"

"You got pussy in my apple!"

The irony here is that G does, indeed, have a daughter named Apple.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 13, 2025 06:57 AM (xG4kz)

75
Tastes like cooter!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 13, 2025 06:57 AM (xG4kz)

76 Hi, my name is Adam, and I've come here for Gwynyth Paltrow's vagina apple.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 13, 2025 06:58 AM (1zOXE)

77 5 below zero here.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 13, 2025 06:58 AM (Cjt/F)

78 Getting one to H8 oneself is a trick.

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 06:58 AM (Ia/+0)

79 I think Tucker is right (hold on a second!) when he said, the other day, words to the effect of: if you disagree with how I handle a podcast guest, do your own podcast. He's intentionally not asking some questions, and he's intentionally "just asking" some other questions. Some of these choices look like revenge against the MSM and sour grapes about his being kicked out of the MSM. His audience likes what he does.

Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 07:00 AM (RuTUS)

80 Cotton candy grapes are pretty good. Not through artificial flavors but through genetics somehow.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 07:01 AM (luNjk)

81
Tucker has reverted to being the smarmy kid in grade school whose face was badly in need of a fist. His girlish glee at Ted Cruz not knowing the population of Iran was evidence enough for me to drop him to the bottom of my "listen to this" list.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 13, 2025 07:04 AM (xG4kz)

82 I'm seeing 60 F. here, expected high today in the '70s (ugh). It's true that conditions like this mean I need to run neither the A/C nor the heat; my power bill will look nice next month. But it *feels* nothing like December!

I'll run out today to feed the car, have my hair cut (all of them) and give my barber his Xmas present, pay my Internet bill, and maybe visit the library. Linda never says anything, but I'd like to think she's amazed at how I fast I can move and get errands done in a morning. It's easy out in the western suburbs, though, a big street grid. I'd hate to deal with it all in the city proper.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 07:05 AM (wzUl9)

83 Brawndo.

Posted by: Plants love it. at December 13, 2025 07:08 AM (2Ez/1)

84 81
Tucker has reverted to being the smarmy kid in grade school whose face was badly in need of a fist. His girlish glee at Ted Cruz not knowing the population of Iran was evidence enough for me to drop him to the bottom of my "listen to this" list.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 13, 2025 07:04 AM (xG4kz)

I'll go find that Ted Cruz thing. Meanwhile: A long-ago friend told a story about going to a kind of early speech-masters talk, live, where the speaker got really haughty and said, I think there's probably not anything you could ask me that I couldn't answer. And the guy I knew shot off, "What's the square root of [some random number]?"

Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 07:09 AM (RuTUS)

85 There was a restaurant here that had a great salad with a sweet vinaigrette dressing that was emulsified with bacon grease. And they always gave you two warm buttery croissants on top. I think Covid killed them.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 07:09 AM (luNjk)

86 mornin yall. Shideh Poormoghaddam.

Posted by: Guy who always says at December 13, 2025 07:09 AM (vFG9F)

Posted by: Guy who always says "mornin yall" at December 13, 2025 07:10 AM (vFG9F)

88 There was a restaurant here that had a great salad with a sweet vinaigrette dressing that was emulsified with bacon grease. And they always gave you two warm buttery croissants on top. I think Covid killed them.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025


***
My morning chow included two mini-croissants, oven-toasted for a bit, with some butter and honey, along with two scrambled seasoned eggs.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 07:10 AM (wzUl9)

89 Later today I'm taking Boy F. to a Christmas party where he and 50 other Tylenol-Americans will dance like whirling dervishes for 2 hours then gorge on pizza. It is a sight to behold.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 07:11 AM (A0sqA)

90 89 Later today I'm taking Boy F. to a Christmas party where he and 50 other Tylenol-Americans will dance like whirling dervishes for 2 hours then gorge on pizza. It is a sight to behold.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 07:11 AM (A0sqA)

Yay!

Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 07:12 AM (RuTUS)

91 Fat is flavor.

Posted by: As any chef can tell you at December 13, 2025 07:12 AM (2Ez/1)

92 Oh, this looks tawdry:

Jun 18, 2025 — "I don't sit around memorising population tables," said Cruz. "They have 92 million people," Carlson responded.

Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 07:12 AM (RuTUS)

93 It’s 36 here now but will get colder and by Monday be in the teens.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 13, 2025 07:13 AM (luNjk)

94 When you grow up living a prep-school, bowtie wearing preppie childhood, having never been in a fistfight, don't be surprised if your street cred is mocked and ridiculed.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 13, 2025 07:13 AM (1zOXE)

95 Fat is flavor.
Posted by: As any chef can tell you at December 13, 2025 07:12 AM (2Ez/1)

Coming soon...Lizzo Apples.

About Damn Time!

Posted by: Lizzo at December 13, 2025 07:14 AM (R/m4+)

96 Kathy Griffin says Trump is disgusting to look at. This is something coming from a baboon colony one. Medusa took a look at KG and her hair fell out.

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 07:14 AM (vFG9F)

97 Neo has a video take down of Tucker lying about Ted Cruz

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:15 AM (Ia/+0)

98 here's a clip:

Tucker Carlson clashes with Ted Cruz over Iran | REUTERS

https://youtu.be/e06RZnNfUVY

Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 07:15 AM (RuTUS)

99 As if Tucker Carlson knew the population of Iran before looking it up on Wiki in preparation for the interview with Cruz.

Posted by: one hour sober at December 13, 2025 07:19 AM (Y1sOo)

100 100

Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 07:19 AM (RuTUS)

101 97 Neo has a video take down of Tucker lying about Ted Cruz
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:15 AM (Ia/+0)

Thanks!

Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 07:20 AM (RuTUS)

102 96, LOL, truth!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 13, 2025 07:21 AM (Cjt/F)

103 "86 mornin yall. Shideh Poormoghaddam.
Posted by: Guy who always says at December 13, 2025 07:09 AM"
+++

Ok, I was wondering if this was some sort of Yiddish greeting so I naturally decided to ask Al Gore's Amazing Internet.

Turns out to be some flavor of female in trouble with the local constabulary:

https://tinyurl.com/mr25ts7h

Posted by: Person unafraid to ask Al Gore's Amazing Internet at December 13, 2025 07:22 AM (2Ez/1)

104 >>>As if Tucker Carlson knew the population of Iran before looking it up on Wiki in preparation for the interview with Cruz.

Posted by: one hour sober

>Silly. As if Cruz is the General spearheading the operation. Cruz is a legislator approving or not approving action. Roles, people. Know your fucking role.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 13, 2025 07:23 AM (1zOXE)

105 Morning peeps.

29F this morning. Supposed to drop to 7F tonight and only get into the low teens tomorrow. Monday morning will be bitterly cold. Just above, or below 0F.

Add in the wind Sunday and it will "feel like" below zero.

And it's not even winter yet.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 13, 2025 07:24 AM (NwnyJ)

106 My Christmas wish is that little fag that murdered Charlie Kirk gets his smirk kicked down his gayass throat.

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 07:24 AM (vFG9F)

107 "Turns out to be some flavor of female in trouble with the local constabulary:"

I just like saying "Poormoghaddam".

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 07:26 AM (vFG9F)

108 here's a listing of newneo entries on Tucker:

https://thenewneo.com/?s=tucker

Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 07:26 AM (RuTUS)

109 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2025 07:27 AM (u82oZ)

110 You just know they have to keep him in a solitary cell, and with all sorts of extra-special (read: expensive) procedures every day. Otherwise he’d get shanked or set on fire within about 10 minutes. It is to laugh.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 07:29 AM (d6jY2)

111 I think Poormoghaddam was the name of some minor character in a Tolkien novel, possibly a chambermaid. But this isn't the book thread.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 13, 2025 07:29 AM (2Ez/1)

112 Fox "News". It's garbage.

Posted by: Guy who always says "It's garbage"" at December 13, 2025 07:31 AM (vFG9F)

113 Time for me to clean up and shave, all.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 13, 2025 07:31 AM (wzUl9)

114 *112 Fox "News". It's garbage.*
###

That's why you turn it off.

Posted by: Person who never watches Fox News at December 13, 2025 07:33 AM (2Ez/1)

115
5 below zero here.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez


Nice.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Historical Facts at December 13, 2025 07:33 AM (zlW+y)

116 That is a Persian name.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 07:34 AM (A0sqA)

117 m

I studied Stat Thermo for my P Chem course and I frequently wanted to run away and join the US Navy. Because I'm no mathematician.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2025 07:34 AM (u82oZ)

118 Where Pixy lives reminds me of Arizona.

Caliche hard as rock, some water and it is mud.

Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 07:35 AM (W7XSX)

119 "I think Poormoghaddam was the name of some minor character in a Tolkien novel, possibly a chambermaid. But this isn't the book thread.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty

She was cut from "The Silmarillion" her third DUI.

Posted by: Guy who always says at December 13, 2025 07:35 AM (vFG9F)

120 I say one thing for the Wolfus man, his morning routine is rock solid.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 13, 2025 07:35 AM (1zOXE)

121 from your mouth to His ears, fd!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 13, 2025 07:36 AM (Cjt/F)

122 "That is a Persian name.
Posted by: San Franpsycho"

She's named after a cat?

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 07:37 AM (vFG9F)

123 "I'm told Miklos has inadvertently gotten himself banned impersonating the troll raimondo"

What have you kids been doing overnight?

Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 07:38 AM (W7XSX)

124 "5 below zero here.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez"

That is intolerable. I would have to go into a drunken hibernation.

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 07:39 AM (vFG9F)

125 Happy gardening, pixy

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at December 13, 2025 07:40 AM (OTdqV)

126 The heat wave of temps above freezing is going away later this afternoon.

Kills chiggers and other bad insects, so I'll take that trade,

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2025 07:43 AM (u82oZ)

127 I studied Stat Thermo for my P Chem course and I frequently wanted to run away and join the US Navy. Because I'm no mathematician.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2025 07:34 AM (u82oZ)


And then you ran away and joined the US Navy.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 13, 2025 07:44 AM (ExV1e)

128 Have a great day, everyone.

May you be thriving with someone that has some body heat to share.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2025 07:44 AM (u82oZ)

129 I used to have a different nic

Smartest move I ever made, except for my marriage proposal.

Blessings on you and yours.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2025 07:46 AM (u82oZ)

130 We don't get no respect.

Posted by: Chiggers and other bad insects at December 13, 2025 07:47 AM (2Ez/1)

131 Who cares what Iran's population is?

Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 07:47 AM (W7XSX)

132 May you be thriving with someone that has some body heat to share.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2025 07:44 AM (u82oZ)
====

We are dogsitting our cousin's cavapoo who is a major cuddler so there's that.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 07:47 AM (A0sqA)

133
I studied Stat Thermo for my P Chem course and I frequently wanted to run away and join the US Navy. Because I'm no mathematician.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 13, 2025 07:34 AM (u82oZ)


I went to a small college. My second semester of P Chem, where we had Stat Thermo, I was one of two people in the class. And if the other guy didn't show up, I got the full lecture anyway.

The other guy was your basic C student who graduated without any great distinction. But the professor wasn't hard on him, he was hard on me.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 07:47 AM (tgvbd)

134 23 degrees out but playing outside anyway

Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:49 AM (Ia/+0)

135 One of the reasons Tucker was so adversarial with Ted Cruz is because his Qatari paymasters have targeted Cruz and Tom Cotton as influential Christian supporters of Israel

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 07:50 AM (A0sqA)

136 It's supposed to be 68 here today but I will be ok because I just got some new thermal underwear.

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 07:51 AM (vFG9F)

137 And now there's a cavapoo in my lap.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 07:54 AM (9ipOP)

138 Anyone have a recommended method for cleaning DVD that start skipping?

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:54 AM (sDNVV)

139 Ben Had I would start by wiping it with a clean soft cloth from the center outward

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 07:56 AM (9ipOP)

140 A long standing member of Ted Cruz's staff is an Israeli that used to have a blog

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:56 AM (sDNVV)

141
Anyone have a recommended method for cleaning DVD that start skipping?
Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 07:54 AM (sDNVV)


Spray some alcohol on a soft cloth or paper. Wipe the disc straight from the center to the edge, not in a circle. That's how I did it with CDs.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 13, 2025 07:58 AM (tgvbd)

142 I have a Blu-Ray DVD of a favorite film. Apparently, I wore it out. There is a place in the story that it freezes and skips over.

Nothing can be done to repair it.

Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 07:59 AM (W7XSX)

143 Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 07:54 AM (9ipOP)

The name cavapoo makes me laugh. FenSpouse makes up pretend names for mixed breed dogs and insists we go out and get one.

Cavapoo is obviously real . Is a cavalier spaniel and what else?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 13, 2025 07:59 AM (rZCVI)

144 Oh. I messed up. I used rubbing alcohol, but I rubbed it in a circle.

Posted by: no one at December 13, 2025 08:00 AM (W7XSX)

145 I rubbed it in a circle"

That's fine.

Posted by: Nanook at December 13, 2025 08:01 AM (vFG9F)

146 Spaniel and poodle

This dog has a face that is heart-melting.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 08:02 AM (9ipOP)

147 Thank you all for the suggestions.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 08:05 AM (sDNVV)

148 Kathy Griffin says Trump is disgusting to look at. This is something coming from a baboon colony one. Medusa took a look at KG and her hair fell out.

--

She obviously doesn't own a mirror. I can't say I blame her because I've seen a recent picture of her extolling her happiness at her 4th? facelift. She looked appalling. Not that she was ever the least bit attractive, because she's never been. But she looked so, so terrible. Like an alien freak. Perhaps that's why she's always such an angry lunatic. If I looked like that, maybe I would be too...if I didn't jump out of a 10-story window beforehand just to make that mirror reflection go away.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 13, 2025 08:05 AM (qBdHI)

149 Don't the koalas and the 'roos munch on all those native plants? Is planting them an exercise in futility?

Posted by: Deer munching On Expensive Shrubbery at December 13, 2025 08:05 AM (oftw2)

150 One of the reasons Tucker was so adversarial with Ted Cruz is because his Qatari paymasters have targeted Cruz and Tom Cotton as influential Christian supporters of Israel]]

I can believe that.

Ted Cruz doesn't represent Texas, he represents the best interests of Ted Cruz. If Quatar would outbid AIPAC, then Cruz and Carlson would be friends.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 08:07 AM (a4flb)

151 @147/Ben Had: I always just took them to the kitchen sink, got the playable side wet with warm water, then put a bit of dishwashing solution on them, and very gently in small circles worked that in over the playable area, then rinse thoroughly and pat dry with a soft towel.

Let it dry for a while longer to the air, and (if it was just smudges) then you should be fine.

If it's scratches, you need a CD/DVD resurfacer.

Lastly, if it's the reflective layer that's starting to break up, there's no fixing that.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 13, 2025 08:07 AM (O7YUW)

152 This cold spell hits most of the country and Sunday and Monday are the cold days. Snow in the same areas recently hit with snow. It does move on through and you get a warming trend through Christmas. You should watch Ryan Hall

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 13, 2025 08:07 AM (+mUZM)

153 Obviously you want non-abrasive dish-washing solution. I use Sunlight. Dawn should work nicely.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 13, 2025 08:09 AM (O7YUW)

154 If all else fails, slap hot iron to it and find another copy.

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 08:10 AM (vFG9F)

155 >>>She obviously doesn't own a mirror. I can't say I blame her because I've seen a recent picture of her extolling her happiness at her 4th? facelift. She looked appalling. Not that she was ever the least bit attractive, because she's never been. But she looked so, so terrible. Like an alien freak. Perhaps that's why she's always such an angry lunatic. If I looked like that, maybe I would be too...if I didn't jump out of a 10-story window beforehand just to make that mirror reflection go away.

Posted by: Lady in Black

>Full confession: I've never seen the back side of Carrot Top's nutsack, but I imagine that Kathy Griffin's face resembles a gooch and testicle pouch deprived of decades of sunlight.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 13, 2025 08:12 AM (1zOXE)

156 Speaking of hot iron, I ran across this in my readings:

"There is also many a bold spirit among the Aarab, of men and women, that being hurt, snatching a brand from the hearth, will sear his wounded flesh, till the fire be quenched in the suffering fibre : and they can endure pain (necessitous persons, whose livelihood is as a long punishment,) with constant fortitude"

Posted by: fd at December 13, 2025 08:13 AM (vFG9F)

157 The hot iron thing reminds me of the scene in Braveheart

Posted by: Ben Had at December 13, 2025 08:16 AM (sDNVV)

158 Later today I'm taking Boy F. to a Christmas party where he and 50 other Tylenol-Americans will dance like whirling dervishes for 2 hours then gorge on pizza. It is a sight to behold.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 07:11 AM (A0sqA)
----------

I love your sense of humor. I hope your son has a wonderful time at the party.

Today is a big cookie baking day for me, with maybe a bit of gift wrapping thrown in. I'm looking forward to it.

Posted by: bluebell at December 13, 2025 08:18 AM (79pEw)

159 142 I have a Blu-Ray DVD of a favorite film. Apparently, I wore it out. There is a place in the story that it freezes and skips over.

Nothing can be done to repair it.
Posted by: no one

Maybe Debbie just wants out of Dallas.

Posted by: Film-Flam at December 13, 2025 08:19 AM (oftw2)

160 Kathy Griffin is a stupid person. What a stupid thing to say.
She is really stupid.

Posted by: Case at December 13, 2025 08:21 AM (G1OIb)

161 I had a bunch of CDs that were subject to a flood in the barracks in Korea, I happened to be on leave out of country, they did not fare well in the ordeal.

The aluminium substrate suffered “pinholes” and these strange looking squiggly line voids, almost like a type of critter that eats metal. Edison cylinders and vinyl LP will still be rockin’ after the last CD has rotted away.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 13, 2025 08:22 AM (d6jY2)

162 Ted Cruz doesn't represent Texas, he represents the best interests of Ted Cruz. If Quatar would outbid AIPAC, then Cruz and Carlson would be friends.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 13, 2025 08:07 AM (a4flb)
====
That gives new depth of meaning to "cynicism"

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 08:23 AM (A0sqA)

163 Thanks bluebell

The cavapoo and the boy are now snoring on the couch.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 08:25 AM (A0sqA)

164 151 @147/Ben Had: I always just took them to the kitchen sink, got the playable side wet with warm water, then put a bit of dishwashing solution on them, and very gently in small circles worked that in over the playable area, then rinse thoroughly and pat dry with a soft towel.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 13, 2025 08:07 AM

+++

You mean like with a cloth?

Posted by: Old Lady Rodham at December 13, 2025 08:25 AM (2Ez/1)

165 Nood

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 13, 2025 08:27 AM (A0sqA)

166 97 Neo has a video take down of Tucker lying about Ted Cruz
Posted by: Skip at December 13, 2025 07:15 AM (Ia/+0)

I don't see that on thenewneo.com, Skip.
I'll keep looking!
Her three-part essay on Tucker is worth reading, from this list:

108 here's a listing of newneo entries on Tucker:

https://thenewneo.com/?s=tucker
Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 07:26 AM (RuTUS)

Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 11:20 AM (RuTUS)

167 "Can the Steam Machine really run games at 4k 60Hz as Valve claims?"

AAA sucks ass at optimizing things and has gotten lazy, assuming hardware will handle it. If they have a benchmark to design to it will help. I think Valve will eventually succeed here even if they have a headwind dealing with the console players that are basically incapable of dealing with system settings and will just run whatever out of the box.

For me - I can't guarantee hitting 60hz at 4k with my carefully built $3500 gaming rig, at least on max settings, so people will have some things to figure out to make this work.

Posted by: heya at December 13, 2025 02:10 PM (gbaE1)

168 my cute little friend who is studying japanese translated the characters emblazoned across my long sleeve power puff girls t- shirt. she says it says "girl puff." now i know.

Posted by: cmeat at December 13, 2025 04:58 PM (R11M+)

Thanks For The Memories

Welcome to Friday, Morons. Let's start with some good advice:

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Feline Friday: Scardy cat


Historical dad joke

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A better time

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In case you were wondering about bee semen


Swan

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Why I think God loves the USA

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The best part of waking up


Season's greetings

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Dramatic pose

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Burrrrrp!


The US has stolen Canada's beloved Franklin, and the Canoeheads are hopping mad about it

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Tonight's game

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Load Sabot!


Can con

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Wingman

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This family does these skits on TikTok and they're hilarious


Bon mot

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Better just make it fellas

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Christmas meme


Will the mass importation of Indians lead to Canadian rapprochement?

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Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by beekeeping:

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1 Yay, ONT!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 12, 2025 10:01 PM (lUFok)

2 Oboy oboy oboy. Friday Night ONT is the memeiest.

Posted by: mindful webworker - it's all relatives at December 12, 2025 10:01 PM (lbDMw)

3 Late, you’re all late.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 10:01 PM (OfmEX)

4 Cool.

Posted by: mot at December 12, 2025 10:01 PM (fIPNY)

5 Blanco ftw. Off to notify the latecomers.

Posted by: mindful webworker - it's all relatives at December 12, 2025 10:02 PM (lbDMw)

6 Hello, Horde! 😊♥️

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 12, 2025 10:02 PM (POaKN)

7 TiFW! Kicking cancer's ass, I see.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 12, 2025 10:05 PM (lUFok)

8 It's the most wonderful time
To drink beer

*hic*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2025 10:07 PM (dyewR)

9 Time travel. Final answer.

Thanks for the ONT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 10:08 PM (zZu0s)

10 Hi Teresa! Hope you are feeling well!

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 10:09 PM (ZdaMQ)

11 Hey WD! Do you work in the Healthcare Insurance industry? If so I have some questions on where I can find a good policy.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 10:09 PM (ynpvh)

12 Good evening good people/

Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2025 10:11 PM (cYBz/)

13 Folgers - don't you just love* those heartwarming familial commercials!

*Platonically, of course.

Posted by: mindful webworker - well, that was unexpected at December 12, 2025 10:11 PM (lbDMw)

14 11 Hey WD! Do you work in the Healthcare Insurance industry? If so I have some questions on where I can find a good policy.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 10:09 PM (ynpvh)

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How's your car warranty? Our records show that it's about to expire.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2025 10:11 PM (dyewR)

15 Time Travel: Just say no to Wikpedia lies
Partner: Naw, got a real one
Money is tempting, but I question the genie's definitions - maybe I _only_ get enough to sit and bask in the sun.
Health works and can be shared. I'll take it.

Posted by: RandomDave at December 12, 2025 10:12 PM (aJQbY)

16 I would take Health.

Not so much for me as for those around me.

Posted by: Dr. T at December 12, 2025 10:14 PM (lHPJf)

17 Meow

Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at December 12, 2025 10:15 PM (w3u3d)

18 Evening, WD, and Ont Horde. Time for me to go cook something for supper.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 10:15 PM (npFr7)

19 Actually I'm drinking Irish whiskey but it didn't fit in the lyric.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2025 10:15 PM (dyewR)

20 I was Folgers Coffee Lady for 21 years. Times have sure changed.

Posted by: Mrs. Olson, Virginia Christine at December 12, 2025 10:15 PM (oftw2)

21 My grandma used to say, a apple a day keeps the doctor away. I'm not sure if its true or if its one of granny's myths.

Posted by: Muchas buchas at December 12, 2025 10:16 PM (CDX35)

22 Those Irishmen would be murder to live with.

Posted by: County Corker at December 12, 2025 10:17 PM (oftw2)

23 I don't know if anyone has mentioned this today, but 40 years ago on this day, 248 Soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division perished when their chartered plane crashed upon takeoff at Gander Airport in Newfoundland.

They were on their way home from a peacekeeping mission in the Sinai peninsula. Their families were gathered together for a welcome home reception at Ft. Campbell when they got the tragic news.

Memorial ceremony at Ft. Campbell today:
https://tinyurl.com/3c7csdpt

Here's a link to the investigation:
https://tinyurl.com/2jp6jn6u

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at December 12, 2025 10:18 PM (22p5n)

24 Back from a lovely dinner with Mrs. Meta. I mistakenly left my office door open, and my Chiweenie pup decided to drag the entire contents of an accordion folder into the family room whence she proceeded to impersonate an industrial shredder.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 12, 2025 10:18 PM (GTqXr)

25 Those poor Canucks look so sad in that meme. Is it really that bleak?

Posted by: USA #1! at December 12, 2025 10:19 PM (oftw2)

26 14 11 Hey WD! Do you work in the Healthcare Insurance industry? If so I have some questions on where I can find a good policy.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 10:09 PM (ynpvh)

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How's your car warranty? Our records show that it's about to expire.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2025 10:11 PM (dyewR)

Hah, your records are dead wrong; they expired a Looong time ago.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 10:20 PM (ynpvh)

27 24 Back from a lovely dinner with Mrs. Meta. I mistakenly left my office door open, and my Chiweenie pup decided to drag the entire contents of an accordion folder into the family room whence she proceeded to impersonate an industrial shredder.
Posted by: Heavy Meta

Hopefully, just birth certificates, passports, and cash money.

Posted by: Keep On the Sunny Side at December 12, 2025 10:21 PM (oftw2)

28 >25 Those poor Canucks look so sad in that meme. Is it really that bleak?

Posted by: USA #1! at December 12, 2025 10:19 PM (oftw2)

Say friend, feeling sad? Have you considered medically assisted suicide? It's free!

Your friends at the NIH.

Posted by: Canuckistan Health Service at December 12, 2025 10:21 PM (GTqXr)

29 And Scardy cat had the most impressive reaction I think I've ever seen, AI or real.

Posted by: mindful webworker - well, that was unexpected at December 12, 2025 10:22 PM (lbDMw)

30 What the guys in the top pick need are rifles that can shoot the caliber of those big-a** beads around their necks. THAT would be some zen I would like to see.

Posted by: GWB at December 12, 2025 10:22 PM (GPiBi)

31 My grandma used to say, a apple a day keeps the doctor away. I'm not sure if its true or if its one of granny's myths.
Posted by: Muchas buchas at December 12, 2025 10:16 PM (CDX35)


It is better than scurvy.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 10:23 PM (rbvCR)

32 Worst part of the folgers commercial was the folgers.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 12, 2025 10:23 PM (snZF9)

33 9 Time travel. Final answer.

Thanks for the ONT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 10:08 PM (zZu0s)

If my wife were still alive I might go for Health so I could spend the next century with her...then again, when I die I might, but in a different context.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 10:23 PM (ynpvh)

34 29 And Scardy cat had the most impressive reaction I think I've ever seen, AI or real.
Posted by: mindful webworker - well, that was unexpected at December 12, 2025 10:22 PM (lbDMw)

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Can I interest you in 500 videos of porch pirates getting their just desserts?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2025 10:24 PM (dyewR)

35 >Hopefully, just birth certificates, passports, and cash money.

Posted by: Keep On the Sunny Side at December 12, 2025 10:21 PM (oftw2)

Nothing I don't have digitized copies for. She was very proud of herself.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 12, 2025 10:24 PM (GTqXr)

36 31 My grandma used to say, a apple a day keeps the doctor away. I'm not sure if its true or if its one of granny's myths.
Posted by: Muchas buchas at December 12, 2025 10:16 PM (CDX35)

It is better than scurvy.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 10:23 PM (rbvCR)

I knew somebody who said, "Eat an apple, make a turd." Maybe not as poetic...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 10:24 PM (ynpvh)

37 SWAN~!

Posted by: Nicholas Angel at December 12, 2025 10:25 PM (mlg/3)

38 That's a JOKE.

Posted by: Muchas buchas at December 12, 2025 10:25 PM (CDX35)

39 I just ordered my bags of Buc-ees nuggets for the stockings.
Mmmmmm!!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 10:26 PM (2WIwB)

40 37 SWAN~!

Posted by: Nicholas Angel at December 12, 2025 10:25 PM (mlg/3)

If you took money to let the swan it, would you have taken a swan dive? Would it end up being your swan song?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 10:26 PM (ynpvh)

41 The Money option: are we assuming that we can't earn more money than to live 'medioarcheardyahdyllly'?

Posted by: Nicholas Angel at December 12, 2025 10:27 PM (mlg/3)

42 I don't know if anyone has mentioned this today, but 40 years ago on this day, 248 Soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division perished when their chartered plane crashed upon takeoff at Gander Airport in Newfoundland.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at December 12, 2025 10:18 PM (22p5n)
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I remember this vividly. I was living with my grandparents when it happened, and they watched the news while eating dinner. As soon as the story broke, my grandfather got up and walked right up to the TV. I was about to say something, but my grandmother gave me a death stare and I froze.

My grandfather sat back down and said that he flew out of Gander during the war, and there were times when landings were very difficult. Very quiet meal.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 12, 2025 10:27 PM (ZOv7s)

43 I'm really not usually squeamish, but I just couldn't bring myself to watch the burp cam bit. I think I was put off just from seeing her with that line dangling from her nostril.

Ma'am, would you like a tissuuuueee...ewwww.

Posted by: mindful webworker - sniffle at December 12, 2025 10:29 PM (lbDMw)

44 I just ordered my bags of Buc-ees nuggets for the stockings.
Mmmmmm!!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 10:26 PM (2WIwB)

Holy shit, you just reminded me that I still have an unopened bag of them from the texas mome return trip. Out of sight out of mind.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 12, 2025 10:29 PM (snZF9)

45 Happy Friday Reprobates!

Great content WD, much appreciated!

Posted by: Zeera , Damn Right I voted for all of this! at December 12, 2025 10:29 PM (jvxGE)

46 Teresa: still praying for you. God bless you! And Merry Christmas!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 12, 2025 10:30 PM (dhHpw)

47 Those poor Canucks look so sad in that meme. Is it really that bleak?

Posted by: USA #1! at December 12, 2025 10:19 PM (oftw2)



Well, not for.16,000 of them this year.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 10:30 PM (2WIwB)

48 Wow, SMH, I don't remember that crash at all. How awful. 248 soldiers, how could I have forgotten?

Posted by: Sad Anniversary, RIP at December 12, 2025 10:30 PM (oftw2)

49 The Time Travel option seems to mean you would know the stock prices of all the Dow30. So that would mean more money than just 'mediocracyrhdfhauihally.'

So Time Travel obviously.

Posted by: Nicholas Angel at December 12, 2025 10:30 PM (mlg/3)

50 Hey WD! Do you work in the Healthcare Insurance industry? If so I have some questions on where I can find a good policy.

I do. Send me an email(my nic at gee, mail!) and I'd be happy to help.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 12, 2025 10:31 PM (df/te)

51 44 I just ordered my bags of Buc-ees nuggets for the stockings.
Mmmmmm!!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 10:26 PM (2WIwB)

Holy shit, you just reminded me that I still have an unopened bag of them from the texas mome return trip. Out of sight out of mind.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 12, 2025 10:29 PM (snZF9)

***

I stand in awe of your self control.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 10:31 PM (2WIwB)

52 TiFW, good to see you. I'm learning hard lesson on what you've gone through. You've been an inspiration.

Posted by: From about That Time at December 12, 2025 10:31 PM (sYWfT)

53 What's even wrong with that pizza? I'm not female let alone pregnant and it looks tasty.

Posted by: gKWVE at December 12, 2025 10:32 PM (gKWVE)

54 I was getting swollen tonsils every time I got allergies. And then I'd have to take steroids to get back to normal. 2-3 times a year. So a doctor was thinking about getting me into surgery to have my tonsils taken out which as an adult is a big thing. So they sent me to an ear/nose/throat spec. to check me first.

First thing the bastard did was shove one of those damned camera things down my nose and into my throat. It was one of the most horrible experiences in my life. No pain. Just constant unavoidable gagging. Gagging like you wouldn't believe. And then my stomach started playing along trying to wretch with whole body convulsive spasms. Never felt so weak and inhuman. I wanted to punch that f'er when it was over.

2 things,
That woman in the video has some very specific, unique talents.

It's good I'm straight because there is absolutely no friggan way I could be gay. Right out.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 12, 2025 10:32 PM (3uBP9)

55 Teresa, I hope you are recovering from surgery and doing well.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 12, 2025 10:33 PM (6p0Jv)

56 I thought the actress who played Mrs Olson was Margaret Hamilton, who portrayed a witch on the Wizard of Oz film. Maybe I’m misremembering commercials

Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 10:33 PM (p/70E)

57 You are an inspiration TiFW. To your continued health and your pig-headed resilience.

*clink*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2025 10:33 PM (dyewR)

58 Partner: Tifa from FFVII Remake.

Given the general desire for inflation, I don't believe the fourth option can be calibrated. Due to related instability, another 75 years isn't appealling. And Wikipedia is worthless woke shit these days (and I don't terribly want to go through the covid insanity again).

Posted by: Methos at December 12, 2025 10:34 PM (vSvIl)

59 WTH is that Santa one? After the Irish family I can't understand what he is saying. Also, he sounds like a British Elizabethan actor, so I don't believe he's the real Santa.

Posted by: GWB at December 12, 2025 10:34 PM (GPiBi)

60 TiFW,
Great to hear from you.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 10:35 PM (2WIwB)

61 I think Margaret Hamilton was the Maxwell House lady. She did that weird Paul Lynde show too. That was a trip.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 12, 2025 10:35 PM (6p0Jv)

62 Hmmm, health or time travel. Time travel is good, make an obscene amount of money with what you know. On the other had, being reset back to 25 and getting another 100 years with a 25 year old body. When I was 25 I was having fun money couldn't buy, and I can do that shit for 100 years?? Sign me the fuck up.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 12, 2025 10:35 PM (snZF9)

63 That pizza:
Half Chicken
Half Mushrooms
Half Onions
Half Olives

Just how are those four halves supposed to be distributed? Quarter chicken and mushrooms, quarter chicken and onions, quarter onions and olives, quarter olives and chicken? What if that's not how she wanted it? You'd think it would have been specified.

Posted by: mindful webworker - sniffle at December 12, 2025 10:36 PM (lbDMw)

64 Evenin'

The Montana State BobKittuhs are beating Stephen F Austin Lumberjacks, 17-8!. GO BOBKITTUHS!! No rooting interest actually, I just like bobcats. I'm disappointed that MSU doesn't have actual bobcats playing.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 12, 2025 10:36 PM (+YRf1)

65 My grandfather sat back down and said that he flew out of Gander during the war, and there were times when landings were very difficult. Very quiet meal.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 12, 2025 10:27 PM (ZOv7s)
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I flew out of there coming home from Iraq.

Don't remember much about the flight.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at December 12, 2025 10:36 PM (22p5n)

66 >>> WTH is that Santa one? After the Irish family I can't understand what he is saying. Also, he sounds like a British Elizabethan actor, so I don't believe he's the real Santa.
Posted by: GWB at December 12, 2025 10:34 PM (GPiBi)


That's Jack Karlson, an Australian dude who became a meme for resisting arrest while talking back to the people arresting him. He died recently.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 12, 2025 10:37 PM (3uBP9)

67 Good evening Horde. Thanks WD!

Posted by: TRex - Friday night dino at December 12, 2025 10:38 PM (IQ6Gq)

68 WTH is that Santa one? After the Irish family I can't understand what he is saying. Also, he sounds like a British Elizabethan actor, so I don't believe he's the real Santa.
Posted by: GWB at December 12, 2025 10:34 PM (GPiBi)


it is the "gentlemen this is democracy manifest" bit redone.
The original was supposedly a dine and dash expert being arrested, back when that was important enough thing in England to be arrested for.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 10:38 PM (rbvCR)

69 Sorry I'm late, snowshovel broke. Inhad to clear the walkway with that little fireplace shovel.

Posted by: tankdemon at December 12, 2025 10:38 PM (0iZzW)

70 I don't mean santa was Jack Karlson, I just mean Santa was doing the bit in the meme.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 12, 2025 10:38 PM (3uBP9)

71 Last time I was in Gander was 1961, flying in a DC-6 to Norway. Idlewild to Gander to Iceland to Oslo. Icelandic Airlines, which became a hippie airline with cheap flights later in the 60s. Next time we went, 1972, SAS 747 non-stop, a different world.

Posted by: Liked The Prop Plane, Though at December 12, 2025 10:38 PM (oftw2)

72 I just ordered my bags of Buc-ees nuggets for the stockings. Mmmmmm!!!!

There is a company around Schulenberg, Texas that makes the most amazing corn nuggets candy. I can only find it at one gas station in Junction, which is on my way to San Diego.

Oma’s Choice. They also make a pretty good single serving buttermilk pie. Good road food. And German pumpkin butter, which is not good road food but amazing. The latter somehow ended up in a gas station a half hour north of me.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 12, 2025 10:38 PM (EXyHK)

73 I so want a Donald Trump watch!
Come on Santa. Don't fail me now.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 10:39 PM (2WIwB)

74 Wicked witch pours black brew for blacks.
https://youtu.be/r3uHylZHp5A

Posted by: mindful webworker - good til they at last drop at December 12, 2025 10:39 PM (lbDMw)

75 Margaret was Cora, the Maxwell House kindly Coffee Lady.

Posted by: Good To The Last Drop at December 12, 2025 10:40 PM (oftw2)

76 32 Worst part of the folgers commercial was the folgers.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

Here's what I used to do. I bought a red container of Folger's. Gagged it down until it was used up. Then I went back to buying the good bagged coffee grounds and stored it in the handy Folger's container. Now I have a nice wide mouthed glass jar for my coffee grounds. So I don't have to explain to people that I don't really drink Folger's.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 12, 2025 10:40 PM (0Htd1)

77 Those poor Canucks look so sad in that meme. Is it really that bleak?
Posted by: USA #1! at December 12, 2025 10:19 PM (oftw2)

Most of us are too damned comfortable, which means we put up with the evil shit our government does. California, q.v.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 10:41 PM (npFr7)

78 Now I have a nice wide mouthed glass jar for my coffee grounds. So I don't have to explain to people that I don't really drink Folger's.
Posted by: nerdygirl


I buy a bag of expensive stuff and mix it with the store brand. Satisfices, as the economists say.

Posted by: Nicholas Angel at December 12, 2025 10:42 PM (mlg/3)

79 Urinal troughs, huh?

I'll have you know that if you find yourself in the bathroom of the down stairs Bier Garten in Munich's Hoff Brau Haus, you will witness a still working Speibecken (or Kotzbecken to you fellow heathens).

THIS is the famous PUKE BASIN.

Incidentally, I asked one of my German friends if anyone every uses it since it appeared spotless. His answer surprised me. Depends if there are any Italians or French in town. They're delicate flowers when if comes to good beer.

Posted by: Orson at December 12, 2025 10:44 PM (dIske)

80 69 Sorry I'm late, snowshovel broke. Inhad to clear the walkway with that little fireplace shovel.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 12, 2025 10:38 PM (0iZzW)


Sheesh you rich folks with your shovels.
i had to clear the walkway with nothing but broken spatula.
In the dark!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 10:44 PM (2WIwB)

81 There is a company around Schulenberg, Texas that makes the most amazing corn nuggets candy. I can only find it at one gas station in Junction, which is on my way to San Diego.

Oma’s Choice. They also make a pretty good single serving buttermilk pie. Good road food. And German pumpkin butter, which is not good road food but amazing. The latter somehow ended up in a gas station a half hour north of me.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 12, 2025 10:38 PM (EXyHK)

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If you are in Junction and are hungry, the Junction Burger Company is most excellent. A locals kind of place. It is a gutbomb meal, but will sustain you for hours, or a day.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 12, 2025 10:44 PM (6p0Jv)

82 Last reminder - submit your ornaments of note for the Hobby Thread tomorrow and join for the fun and games at 5:30ET. Thanks much to Morons that have already made submissions!

Use the email in my nic for submissions.

Posted by: TRex - Hobby Thread MC at December 12, 2025 10:45 PM (IQ6Gq)

83 Mrs. Olson was married for life to character actor Fritz Feld. POP!

Posted by: And She Was Mountain Grown at December 12, 2025 10:46 PM (oftw2)

84 banana Dream, did the ear, nose, and throat doctor say, "you're going to feel some pressure." Whenever they say something like that, you're in for it.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 12, 2025 10:47 PM (0Htd1)

85 The crazy pizza order:

I get it. when my wife was preggers with our first-born, her favorite food was Reese's Peanut Butter Cup ice cream floats with Sprite, and french fries.

Second son: Whole milk. Lots and lots of whole milk. But we were in Germany and we had access to high quality milk.

Women be weird, yo!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 12, 2025 10:48 PM (0aYVJ)

86 50 Hey WD! Do you work in the Healthcare Insurance industry? If so I have some questions on where I can find a good policy.

I do. Send me an email(my nic at gee, mail!) and I'd be happy to help.

Posted by: Weirddave at December 12, 2025 10:31 PM (df/te)

Thanks WD; email sent.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 10:49 PM (ynpvh)

87 53 What's even wrong with that pizza? I'm not female let alone pregnant and it looks tasty.
Posted by: gKWVE

What does identifying as a woman have to do with being pregnant?!?¿°

Posted by: Dylan Mulvaney at December 12, 2025 10:49 PM (ycI94)

88 If you are in Junction and are hungry, the Junction Burger Company is most excellent.

Thanks, I’ll remember that. On the way out I’m usually there pretty early and have filled up on kolaches from Gudes in Burnet and fritters from Mason Donuts. On the way back though, it’s all gas station food.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 12, 2025 10:50 PM (EXyHK)

89 Urinal troughs, huh?
Posted by: Orson at December 12, 2025 10:44 PM (dIske)
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Spartan Stadium has them. They line the male restroom walls, and are very efficient. I recall Michigan Stadium had gone with just peeing against the walls, which had a thin sheen of water running down them.

Presumably their fan base peed against the walls by habit, and the university adapted to it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 12, 2025 10:51 PM (ZOv7s)

90 Now I have a nice wide mouthed glass jar for my coffee grounds. So I don't have to explain to people that I don't really drink Folger's.
Posted by: nerdygirl
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I buy a bag of expensive stuff and mix it with the store brand. Satisfices, as the economists say.
Posted by: Nicholas Angel at December 12, 2025 10:42 PM (mlg/3)


That's like 'Let's take this here filet mignon, grind it up, mix it with hamburger and make chili'.

My theory is enjoy the good things once in a while for what they are -- good. Life's too short.

Posted by: RickZ at December 12, 2025 10:51 PM (gKDq2)

91 banana Dream, did the ear, nose, and throat doctor say, "you're going to feel some pressure." Whenever they say something like that, you're in for it.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 12, 2025 10:47 PM (0Htd1)

I had the laryngoscope put up my nose and down my throat a couple of times. Was irritating, but not horrible. More of a burning sensation than a gagging one. The doc was a pro, and a very good communicator.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 10:51 PM (npFr7)

92 85 The crazy pizza order:

I get it. when my wife was preggers with our first-born, her favorite food was Reese's Peanut Butter Cup ice cream floats with Sprite, and french fries.

Second son: Whole milk. Lots and lots of whole milk. But we were in Germany and we had access to high quality milk.

Women be weird, yo!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 12, 2025 10:48 PM (0aYVJ)

Mom craved Chinese food when she was carrying me; she was concerned, as she heard that every 3rd person was Chinese and thought I might come out as one. LOL.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 10:52 PM (ynpvh)

93 Incidentally, I asked one of my German friends if anyone every uses it since it appeared spotless. His answer surprised me. Depends if there are any Italians or French in town. They're delicate flowers when if comes to good beer.
Posted by: Orson at December 12, 2025


Yup. True. The wine sippers can't hang when great bier is on the table.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 10:52 PM (2WIwB)

94 Definitely not picking time travel. I once dreamed I traveled to December 1862 and warned Burnside not to attack Marye's Heights and he had me locked up.

Posted by: PA Dutchman at December 12, 2025 10:52 PM (31p00)

95 Teresa, what a treat to see you in the comments. I hope you are doing well, and the prayers for your health continue from this end.
Hope you'll be able to attend the Club ONT Christmas party tomorrow night...everyone has been wondering how you are doing.

Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at December 12, 2025 10:53 PM (IQ6Gq)

96 94 Definitely not picking time travel. I once dreamed I traveled to December 1862 and warned Burnside not to attack Marye's Heights and he had me locked up.

Posted by: PA Dutchman at December 12, 2025 10:52 PM (31p00)

Even if you could travel back, I'd guess that fighting against the inertia of history might be difficult; small things might be adjustable, but large ones probably not. The again, a small change, given enough time, can result in a large result, like trying to move an asteroid...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 10:54 PM (ynpvh)

97 93 Incidentally, I asked one of my German friends if anyone every uses it since it appeared spotless. His answer surprised me. Depends if there are any Italians or French in town. They're delicate flowers when if comes to good beer.
Posted by: Orson at December 12, 2025


Yup. True. The wine sippers can't hang when great bier is on the table.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 10:52 PM (2WIwB)

I asked a German friend if he knew what the square root of 81 was. He didn't know...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 10:55 PM (ynpvh)

98 I asked a German friend if he knew what the square root of 81 was. He didn't know...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 10:55 PM (ynpvh)

heh!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 10:56 PM (npFr7)

99 56 I thought the actress who played Mrs Olson was Margaret Hamilton, who portrayed a witch on the Wizard of Oz film. Maybe I’m misremembering commercials
Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 10:33 PM (p/70E)

You are correct.

She grew up in Cleveland and went to an private all girls school in Shaker Heights, called Hathaway Brown.

Posted by: browndog had a thing for the Laurel girls at December 12, 2025 10:58 PM (3sXRv)

100 Good health is my pick, especially with the extends to loved ones bonus. If I croak, hubby would not do well.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 12, 2025 10:58 PM (6p0Jv)

101 75 Margaret was Cora, the Maxwell House kindly Coffee Lady.
Posted by: Good To The Last Drop at December 12, 2025 10:40 PM (oftw2)

Yup, and Jane Withers was the Comet lady (Rosie?)

Posted by: Joemarine at December 12, 2025 10:59 PM (y171U)

102 94 Definitely not picking time travel. I once dreamed I traveled to December 1862 and warned Burnside not to attack Marye's Heights and he had me locked up.
Posted by: PA Dutchman



I've visited Fredericksburg Battlefield a few years ago. That 'high ground' was steep, almost a cliff, yet Burnside made that call anyway. Burnside should have been court martialed for that. WTF?

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 12, 2025 11:00 PM (+YRf1)

103 Sheesh you rich folks with your shovels.
i had to clear the walkway with nothing but broken spatula.
In the dark!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 10:44 PM (2WIwB)

We just waited 'till spring.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 12, 2025 11:00 PM (0aYVJ)

104 103 Sheesh you rich folks with your shovels.
i had to clear the walkway with nothing but broken spatula.
In the dark!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 10:44 PM (2WIwB)

We just waited 'till spring.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 12, 2025 11:00 PM (0aYVJ)

You had a spatula?...
You had a walkway?...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:01 PM (ynpvh)

105 The little school from East Texas is making this a game. SFA just scored. MSU 24- SFA 14

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 12, 2025 11:02 PM (+YRf1)

106 Enjoying the bee content. Just got everything for exhibiting at the North American Honey Bee Expo in Louisville next month.

Posted by: SkinnerVic at December 12, 2025 11:02 PM (JIGPW)

107 40 years ago today…something like 200 or so members of the 101st Airborne were killed when their DC-8 crashed in Gander. They were coming home from a deployment in Egypt.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 12, 2025 11:02 PM (rQwsY)

108 Love the pizza order! With #1 giant son (2oz shy of 10lbs...but he pooped, so I think that counts, due to wrapping the cord around his neck twice:yay for c-sections after a day's labor). I craved Mexican food. I also oddly loved hotdogs with everything on them (I don't like hotdogs normally).

My husband dreamed HE had a c-section for triplet boys and one was blond, the other two Mexican. We did have a Navajo/Mexican college friend who came for dinner that night, so John may be the reason. His dream got two parts correct: the blond single boy and a c-section due to a large head as well as the rest of him.

I don't think I was scary, but when I was hungry, do not get in my way.

So gigantic (not from the back) that people let me in the front of the lines in stores. Got stuck in a turnstile at the airport picking up my mother (who said she got tears in her eyes seeing me).

I got tears in my eyes when frat boys mooed at me in the crosswalk near our house. They were in a convertible and I wanted to jump in and beat them but I was too big. Instead I sobbed and scared my husband until the mooing part when he laughed and then I laughed. Frat bastids.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 12, 2025 11:03 PM (WONhk)

109 Time travel is an easy pick I get to be 10 years younger and one of the richest people in the world just sports betting .

Posted by: the way I see it at December 12, 2025 11:03 PM (KDPiq)

110 Pick One

Health
There's no substitute for it.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 12, 2025 11:04 PM (yEo1J)

111 106 Enjoying the bee content. Just got everything for exhibiting at the North American Honey Bee Expo in Louisville next month.
Posted by: SkinnerVic at December 12, 2025 11:02 PM (JIGPW)

----------

Be sure to stop by my booth. I'm demonstrating cutting edge bee-milking techniques.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2025 11:06 PM (dyewR)

112 I remember this vividly. I was living with my grandparents when it happened, and they watched the news while eating dinner. As soon as the story broke, my grandfather got up and walked right up to the TV. I was about to say something, but my grandmother gave me a death stare and I froze.

My grandfather sat back down and said that he flew out of Gander during the war, and there were times when landings were very difficult. Very quiet meal.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 12, 2025 10:27 PM (ZOv7s)

I do too. I was at a DYA Center afterschool in Germany, playing pool. Announced at 1600 CET on AFN Radio as near as I could tell..

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 12, 2025 11:07 PM (rQwsY)

113 I got tears in my eyes when frat boys mooed at me in the crosswalk near our house. They were in a convertible and I wanted to jump in and beat them but I was too big. Instead I sobbed and scared my husband until the mooing part when he laughed and then I laughed. Frat bastids.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 12, 2025 11:03 PM (WONhk)


Well, if it were my fraternity, we'd of sung The Sweetheart of Sigma Chi to you.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 11:07 PM (2WIwB)

114 Pick One

Health
There's no substitute for it.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 12, 2025 11:04 PM (yEo1J)

Yes but weirdly the 100 years put me off.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 12, 2025 11:08 PM (KDPiq)

115 Mooing at a heavily pregnant lady is about the lowest class thing I can imagine. Their mothers should have beaten them more.

Posted by: Or, Tortured, Shot, And Sent To The Russian Front at December 12, 2025 11:08 PM (oftw2)

116 Hello, Horde! 😊♥️
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AoSHQ's Plucky Wee One - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at December 12, 2025 10:02 PM (POaKN)

I hope your doing well.

Now, for the serious question. Which topping on the cheesecake? Strawberry, raspberry, cherry, or something else?

I think raspberry is best, but I know not everyone will agree with me.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at December 12, 2025 11:08 PM (S/Y4j)

117 That monk in the red robes has got some serious biceps for a religious guy,.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 11:10 PM (k5cxK)

118 Be sure to stop by my booth. I'm demonstrating cutting edge bee-milking techniques.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2025 11:06 PM (dyewR)

Boobies ?

Posted by: the way I see it at December 12, 2025 11:10 PM (KDPiq)

119 40 years ago today…something like 200 or so members of the 101st Airborne were killed when their DC-8 crashed in Gander. They were coming home from a deployment in Egypt.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 12, 2025 11:02 PM (rQwsY)

SMH posted some links up-thread. I went to the "investigation" link, but did not want to watch a 45 minute video. Aircraft was a DC8, and it crashed shortly after take-off. Engine failure? De-icing not done, or done poorly? Pilot error?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 11:11 PM (npFr7)

120 it is the "gentlemen this is democracy manifest" bit redone.
The original was supposedly a dine and dash expert being arrested, back when that was important enough thing in England to be arrested for.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 10:38 PM (rbvCR)

Aha. Thank you.

Posted by: GWB at December 12, 2025 11:11 PM (GPiBi)

121 Icing + overweight.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 12, 2025 11:12 PM (f0sNM)

122 111 Be sure to stop by my booth. I'm demonstrating cutting edge bee-milking techniques.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2025 11:06 PM

That's a HARD pass. Did you learn those techniques at Amherst College per chance?

Posted by: SkinnerVic at December 12, 2025 11:12 PM (JIGPW)

123 110 Pick One

Health
There's no substitute for it.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 12, 2025 11:04 PM (yEo1J)

Depends if you have a good reason to be around for another century. If everybody you ever loved is gone, would that truly be the best option? Maybe go back in time a decade to spend some quality time with some of your loved ones while they were still around? 10 years isn't much, but those 10 years might be worth more than a century to you.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:14 PM (ynpvh)

124 Be sure to stop by my booth. I'm demonstrating cutting edge bee-milking techniques.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2025 11:06 PM (dyewR)

Boobies ?
Posted by: the way I see it at December 12, 2025 11:10 PM (KDPiq)


Boobees

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 11:15 PM (2WIwB)

125 Boobees
Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 11:15 PM (2WIwB)

Live in the Haunted Hive.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 11:17 PM (npFr7)

126 That was a pathetic burp, she doesn’t even know what burping is. One of my buddies could say the entire alphabet doing one burp, all of us could get close.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 11:17 PM (k5cxK)

127 Jim, when you asked him about "nine" did he suddenly get thirsty? Because I think I see a pattern here.

16 scares 'em. And for God's sake avoid 36.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 12, 2025 11:18 PM (zdLoL)

128 Beeboos

Posted by: mot at December 12, 2025 11:18 PM (fIPNY)

129 115 Mooing at a heavily pregnant lady is about the lowest class thing I can imagine. Their mothers should have beaten them more.
Posted by: Or, Tortured, Shot, And Sent To The Russian Front at December 12, 2025 11:08 PM (oftw2)

Eh, they got theirs from the hex I put on them. Little twits. I should have climbed into the car just to see what they'd do.

My husband usually walked the park with me but was puny or something and I did it alone. In labor, to attempt to speed it up, we walked it twice. That kid was not coming normally, and I am thankful for the c-section or it would have been bad for him.Back then no sonograms were done unless medically necessary.

By the time my OB mentioned a section I did not care if he came out of my ear. The epidural was great!

Scheduled section for #2 due to the big head deal from their Daddy.Far less exciting and all was well once again.All done, altho I wanted one more and hubby talked me out of it. We know it would have been another boy.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 12, 2025 11:20 PM (WONhk)

130 He shoots
He SCORES!


2-2 Kraken v elephants

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 12, 2025 11:21 PM (mT+6a)

131 127 Jim, when you asked him about "nine" did he suddenly get thirsty? Because I think I see a pattern here.

16 scares 'em. And for God's sake avoid 36.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 12, 2025 11:18 PM (zdLoL)

I verbally offered him a gift, but he refused for some reason.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:23 PM (ynpvh)

132 The health option doesn't state it but implies I'll know what I do now. If that's the truth and I have 100 years to act on it, I'll go with that.

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 11:24 PM (Cjcf6)

133 Bobkittuh's score again!

MSU 34 - SFA 14

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 12, 2025 11:25 PM (+YRf1)

134 He shoots
He SCORES!


2-2 Kraken v elephants
----

Is that soccer? You know this isn't a gay website, right?

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 11:25 PM (Cjcf6)

135 Time travel pill for sure.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 11:27 PM (9iyS+)

136 131 127 Jim, when you asked him about "nine" did he suddenly get thirsty? Because I think I see a pattern here.

16 scares 'em. And for God's sake avoid 36.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 12, 2025 11:18 PM (zdLoL)

I verbally offered him a gift, but he refused for some reason.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:23 PM (ynpvh)

I told him I made the gift especially for him, and that made him nervous...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:27 PM (ynpvh)

137 It would suck to be young that long. No matter when you lived you would hate the changes to the world; politics, religion, music, culture would all pass you by. Or you would have no grounding or connection to a time.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 12, 2025 11:28 PM (R86kT)

138 The health option also states that our loved ones will also have health of a 25 year old. That is nice.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 12, 2025 11:29 PM (6p0Jv)

139 Couldn't watch the nasotube deal as I had it done as a college girl for sinus stuff then surgery. NOPE!

As a RN I used to put tubes into nostrils to stomachs, and was pretty good at this or shoving things into people. No longer done, but I did it when people were bleeding with ulcers and iced saline lavage. Fun times for us all!

I was in my 20's but looked 16 and somehow convinced patients I knew what I was doing (I did, but do wonder what they thought as I have always looked younger). Had my RN cap on to prove I was not a candy striper wandering in. No one died on my watch who wasn't supposed to when I was charge nurse.

I was very good at starting IV's and liked that.Could still start an IV on anything. I see forehead veins (like Markle's) and want to give it a try. I don't have a forehead vein that bulges like hers, and think it's pretty weird.

Nurses are weird this way to size up your veins in public when bored. Or, I am. I also want to advise people to get moles checked. I really should not be loose in public.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 12, 2025 11:30 PM (WONhk)

140 Sorry I'm late, snowshovel broke. Inhad to clear the walkway with that little fireplace shovel.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 12, 2025 10:38 PM (0iZzW)

Shit man, did you have to clear a forest with a herring too? lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 12, 2025 11:33 PM (snZF9)

141 135 Time travel pill for sure.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 11:27 PM (9iyS+)

Since 2016 I've lost my parents, my wife, her parents, a couple of her uncles, several of my uncles, an aunt, and at least one cousin. I could get to see them all again, even if it's just for a short time...and warn my brother not to marry wife #3...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:33 PM (ynpvh)

142 >>My husband dreamed HE had a c-section for triplet boys and one was blond, the other two Mexican.

I think your husband did way more drugs than I did.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 11:34 PM (viF8m)

143 Christy, I found nurses are better at starting IVs than EMTs.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 11:34 PM (rbvCR)

144 138 The health option also states that our loved ones will also have health of a 25 year old. That is nice.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 12, 2025 11:29 PM (6p0Jv)

Yes, but wouldn't work on those that have already passed (unless it did, and that would be even worse)...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:34 PM (ynpvh)

145 "....a small change, given enough time, can result in a large result, like trying to move an asteroid..."

The Butterfly Effect.

Posted by: Racially Ambiguous Honky at December 12, 2025 11:34 PM (zdQuL)

146 Big bro could burp entire sentences.. He called it "belching in tongues" Eww. Betcha he barfed more than a few times, while practicing!

I'd rather go back in time, BUT-- 2015 was during the obastard years, so no thanks.

Thought I'd pretty much already had the "yellow pill" until hubby got sick. Mediocrity is *safe* and I'm not really an extrovert or thrill-seeker; it suits me.

Don't want to live another 100 years, even if healthy. Can barely stand "society" NOW. Heh.

F it all Friday, Horde! WOOT!

Thanks for the ONT, weirddave!

Posted by: JQ at December 12, 2025 11:35 PM (rdVOm)

147 Yellow pill is just retirement.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 12, 2025 11:36 PM (R86kT)

148 Christy. Veins. I've seen family members in hospital have a bad time because their veins were hard to find. I'm glad to have.good ones for blood draws even when I'm a bit chunky.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 12, 2025 11:37 PM (6p0Jv)

149 143 Christy, I found nurses are better at starting IVs than EMTs.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 11:34 PM (rbvCR)

For me last year, they had to bring out the vein-finder after I had fluid infiltration at least 3 times (which means they couldn't get a good line three times on a single IV, three times), and they had resorted to poking veins on the back of my hands. In the end, they shoved a line in my open arm into a large blood vessel.
I rate this the worst vacation I've ever had.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:37 PM (ynpvh)

150
Those poor Canucks look so sad in that meme. Is it really that bleak?

Posted by: USA #1! at December 12, 2025 10:19 PM (oftw2)

__________

Are you kidding? Millions of leftists dream of emigrating to Canada to make their fortune.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 11:38 PM (tgvbd)

151 137 It would suck to be young that long. No matter when you lived you would hate the changes to the world; politics, religion, music, culture would all pass you by. Or you would have no grounding or connection to a time.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 12, 2025 11:28 PM (R86kT)

It’s the Duncan MacLeod of the Clan MacLeod problem.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 11:38 PM (k5cxK)

152 I miss Jim Sunk New Dawn.

Cheers, mate!

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 12, 2025 11:38 PM (mT+6a)

153 Yes, but wouldn't work on those that have already passed (unless it did, and that would be even worse)...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:34 PM (ynpvh)

Pet Cemetery

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 11:39 PM (k5cxK)

154 153 Yes, but wouldn't work on those that have already passed (unless it did, and that would be even worse)...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:34 PM (ynpvh)

Pet Cemetery

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 11:39 PM (k5cxK)

More like stuck in their coffins, buried 6ft under, not able to get out...horrible way to go. Well, wouldn't be problem for Mom as she was cremated...no idea where she is.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:40 PM (ynpvh)

155 142 >>My husband dreamed HE had a c-section for triplet boys and one was blond, the other two Mexican.

I think your husband did way more drugs than I did.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 11:34 PM (viF8m)

I think he was just freaked out at how things were going. To make it more fun, the baby was 10dys late and I cried every morning he was late. He's still late for many things. I rarely cry.

The doc did not want to alarm me the way things were going, but did say the next day he was thankful the kid refused to go further as things would not have turned out so well for the King of the Baby Nursery.

My BIL, when he saw me, suddenly had pity he did not have prior. Said, "Wow, it was like you carried a 10lb of potatoes." Indeed. Women are amazing.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 12, 2025 11:41 PM (WONhk)

156 Hello and happy Friday to the Horde. Hope you are all having a great Friday night, a great ONT, and will have an awesome weekend.

Oh and a great Monday too as long as I'm at it.

Love you all.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 12, 2025 11:42 PM (CHHv1)

157 Yes, but wouldn't work on those that have already passed (unless it did, and that would be even worse)...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:34 PM (ynpvh)

Pet Cemetery

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 11:39 PM (k5cxK)

---
Pet Cemetery is disturbing. And there was a whole season of Buffy the Vampire Season dealing with the notion.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 12, 2025 11:42 PM (6p0Jv)

158 He shoots
He SCORES!


2-2 Kraken v elephants
Posted by: nur


everything around has gotten so fuckd some of my happiest times are when you get here. WTF man.

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 11:42 PM (V0RQu)

159 Empty net never works.

So fucking stupid.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 12, 2025 11:42 PM (mT+6a)

160 My husband dreamed HE had a c-section for triplet boys and one was blond, the other two Mexican.

I think your husband did way more drugs than I did.
Posted by: JackS

or he had some weekends in tijuana he never mentioned to you

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 11:43 PM (V0RQu)

161 n!


I made you spit this afternoon. My life is complete.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 12, 2025 11:44 PM (mT+6a)

162 My mother used to cry at that folgers ad. Sure enough, I started to well up a bit when watching that. Then I laughed my ass off. Hilarious!

Posted by: 496 at December 12, 2025 11:44 PM (oOhQ4)

163 Slayer not season. Criminy.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 12, 2025 11:44 PM (6p0Jv)

164 n!


I made you spit this afternoon. My life is complete.
Posted by: nur


smiley face

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 11:44 PM (V0RQu)

165
5.56 Christmas

https://tinyurl.com/bzmfjwj4

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 11:44 PM (OfmEX)

166 I got the booze stash set up for the party tomorrow. I opened some of the bottles because for some frigging reason people don't go near unopened bottles. Me thinks I be sampling tonight. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 12, 2025 11:45 PM (snZF9)

167 nurse, I sure missed chatting with him at the TxMoMe. He was a very interesting man.

Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at December 12, 2025 11:45 PM (47diA)

168 Those poor Canucks look so sad in that meme. Is it really that bleak?

Probably not quite that bleak, but they appear to be further down the slope than we are. The only Canadian (who still lives there, at least) I follow is Laura Rosen Cohen. Look for Laura’s Links on SteynOnline.com.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 12, 2025 11:45 PM (EXyHK)

169 I made you spit this afternoon. My life is complete.
Posted by: nur



we would have been fast friends fast save for that thing

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 11:45 PM (V0RQu)

170 >>My BIL, when he saw me, suddenly had pity he did not have prior. Said, "Wow, it was like you carried a 10lb of potatoes." Indeed. Women are amazing.

You are fortunate to have so many kind and supportive men in your life.

Where did the Mexicans enter this situation?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 11:45 PM (viF8m)

171 149 143 Christy, I found nurses are better at starting IVs than EMTs.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 11:34 PM (rbvCR)

For me last year, they had to bring out the vein-finder after I had fluid infiltration at least 3 times (which means they couldn't get a good line three times on a single IV, three times), and they had resorted to poking veins on the back of my hands. In the end, they shoved a line in my open arm into a large blood vessel.
I rate this the worst vacation I've ever had.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:37 PM (ynpvh)

Sounds like they should always bring out the vein finder. Jeez. My favorite vein is the one below your wrist (on the inside: cephalic). Most people have good pipes there and can still use their hands. In the ED they just do it in your inner elbow. We were taught to start in the lower arm to free that one for emergencies.

In my 7yrs in the newborn nursery and step down NICU I had to start tiny IV's in baby's scalps. I hated that but did it when I had to.

How are you doing? I think you were in the hospital last summer?

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 12, 2025 11:47 PM (WONhk)

172
Empty net never works.

So fucking stupid.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 12, 2025 11:42 PM (mT+6a)

_________

Historically, a 6 on 5 works 10-15% of the time.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 11:48 PM (tgvbd)

173 OREGON: At some point we're going to have to re-claim territories.

The nursing ethics board that oversees the licensure of Oregon nurses has decided to take no action against the infamous nurse Camesha Hart, of Beaverton Oregon, who sent messages to Jews calling them “vermin” and “dogs” and saying she doesn’t treat animals.

In fact, they allowed her to renew her RN license for another two years, we found out last week.

Camesha Lynn Hart — a nurse of 22 years in Beaverton Oregon — found herself in an imbroglio of antisemitic proportions when she popped off a number of anti-Jew comments earlier this year in February and March 2025 on her Instagram page.

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 11:49 PM (Cjcf6)

174 I usually kept my pregnancy whacked-out ness to myself, but I did, with the third, shake Mr. S awake out of a sound sleep one morning, sobbing hysterically because he had not mended the hole in the wall of the nursery and ordering him to fix it RIGHT NOW, b/c I could not live in this white trash house any more.

(Why was there a hole in the wall? The older two- five and three- had drilled a hole in the wallboard with a geometry compass and my pinking shears. Just because they wanted to see what was back there.)

Posted by: sal at December 12, 2025 11:51 PM (f+FmA)

175 Where did the Mexicans enter this situation?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 11:45 PM (viF8m)

The only supportive one was my husband, who feared my wrath as he got me this way.

Our college friend we'd had to dinner (tacos) is half Navajo and half Mexican. So I am pretty sure he had something to do with the dream that night, as well as me declaring I could eat Mexican food every day.

I am used to telling the men in my family what I think. We drove cross country to a new job in FL when the baby was 6wks old. Stopped on my farm in MS and my brother stuck his head in the car and asked, "Is this your milking stall?" I told him to shut up and get out of my way.

And, yes, that baby had a growth spurt and ate a lot as we drove 8hrs/day for 3dys. The truckers probably liked me as we decided we could not stop every 1.5hrs and took our chances with him briefly out of his carseat.

This was in a Sentra with the toddler in his carseat in the front passenger seat (no airbags during the Civil War times). He did get in hot water trying to mess with the gear shift going over the Rocky Mountains. It was a fun time.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 12, 2025 11:55 PM (WONhk)

176 My husband dreamed HE had a c-section for triplet boys and one was blond, the other two Mexican.

I think your husband did way more drugs than I did.
Posted by: JackS

or he had some weekends in tijuana he never mentioned to you

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 11:43 PM (V0RQu)

Years ago I heard a comedian talking about dreams. He said one second you're falling down a mine shaft, the next you're in a parade. My dreams are that way. Its like being in front of a TV for hours watching different episodes of different TV series. One second I'm in a post apocalyptic hellscape trying to find a place to pee, the next I'm on a road trip with no clue where I'm going on a motorcycle I don't recognize, and the next I'm in a lumber mill, and then I'll finish off on an intergalactic cruise ship from the 5th element. WTF...

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 12, 2025 11:55 PM (snZF9)

177 I'm beginning to think the refs have some money on this game. They sure like throwing flags against Montana St. Bobkittuhs still have the lead, 41-21.

Well, 41-28 now.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at December 12, 2025 11:57 PM (+YRf1)

178 When my wife was 6 months pregnant (not huge yet) we were on a summer trip, driving through Arkansas, and she was feeling super hot and couldn’t cool down, we were at a hotel and their was ac, but not that great- so suddenly she just grabbed a scissors and cut most of her hair off.

It was kind of a Britney Spears thing, I think.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 11:57 PM (k5cxK)

179 >>I am used to telling the men in my family what I think.

No way.

You're a funny lady.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 11:58 PM (viF8m)

180 (Why was there a hole in the wall? The older two- five and three- had drilled a hole in the wallboard with a geometry compass and my pinking shears. Just because they wanted to see what was back there.)
Posted by: sal at December 12, 2025 11:51 PM (f+FmA)

Boys? Mine once melted a block of cheddar cheese on a lightbulb (their lamp) when I let them make a tent in their room on a rainy FL day. I smelled something burning and that's what I found with them quite pleased, as they were camping.

The toddler youngest also gave the fish in their bathroom tank a fluoride treatment once. No one wondered why they died later. One side of the tank was smeared with toothpaste.

I refer to this as the chimp era of life with boys. My husband traveled a lot and I nearly went insane at times, but managed to raise them to be responsible adults. I never was admitted to the psych unit. I did call my husband during the chickenpox quarantine to come home. The only time I did this.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 12:01 AM (WONhk)

181 A really weird dream I’ve had - and I found out other people have had this too, so it must mean something - is that I’m sitting at a table , and my teeth feel funny, so I reach up and take them all out of my mouth and lay them on the table in front of me. And then I try to put them back in so they fit right, but it’s hard and pretty frustrating.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:01 AM (k5cxK)

182 I miss Jim Sunk New Dawn.

Cheers, mate!

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 12, 2025 11:38 PM (mT+6a)

yeah, I miss him too. He used to make me laugh. I guess he used to shuttle people back and forth from the airport. Every time he picked up some rock/metal musician from the east coast he would text me and asked if I knew them, or sometimes he asked if they knew me. One time they actually did, and I actually knew his brother, lol. Damn I miss him.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 12:02 AM (snZF9)

183 5.56 Christmas

https://tinyurl.com/bzmfjwj4
Posted by: Braenyard

Cool. Suppressed subsonic .22 LR can actually do that.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 13, 2025 12:08 AM (xceqr)

184 A really weird dream I’ve had - and I found out other people have had this too, so it must mean something - is that I’m sitting at a table , and my teeth feel funny, so I reach up and take them all out of my mouth and lay them on the table in front of me. And then I try to put them back in so they fit right, but it’s hard and pretty frustrating.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:01 AM (k5cxK)

Can't say I ever had that one. I usually can tell If I'm dreaming. If it starts to get too bizarre something in my brain pulls me out and I hear myself saying yeah, this isn't real. I would know that my teeth don't actually come out and the dream would end right there. Of course the next second I would be sorting bolts in a hardware store or some shit.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 12:08 AM (snZF9)

185 184 A really weird dream I’ve had - and I found out other people have had this too, so it must mean something - is that I’m sitting at a table , and my teeth feel funny, so I reach up and take them all out of my mouth and lay them on the table in front of me. And then I try to put them back in so they fit right, but it’s hard and pretty frustrating.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:01 AM (k5cxK)

This means you're feeling powerless.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at December 13, 2025 12:11 AM (pIfcn)

186 There's a few I've heard that seem to be common. Like if you dream you're being chased, it means you're avoiding something. These aren't exactly revelatory.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at December 13, 2025 12:13 AM (pIfcn)

187 That Time Travel option is a sure way to go insane. You will have knowledge of thousands upon thousands of tragedies world wide.

So, does your conscience allow you to ignore each and every one of them? Some of them? None of them? Do you want to feel responsible for doing nothing to prevent that poor Ukrainian girl from being stabbed on the train?

Where do you draw the line? And, when are you going to have any free time to benefit yourself.

That one is a trap.

Posted by: Orson at December 13, 2025 12:13 AM (dIske)

188 How are you doing? I think you were in the hospital last summer?

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 12, 2025 11:47 PM (WONhk)

It's been a year for me. Son had to go in back in summer (being incredibly stupid, even required an ambulance ride).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:13 AM (ynpvh)

189 Camesha Lynn Hart — a nurse of 22 years in Beaverton Oregon — found herself in an imbroglio of antisemitic proportions when she popped off a number of anti-Jew comments earlier this year in February and March 2025 on her Instagram page.

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 11:49 PM (Cjcf6)

Gaza is looking for nurses and doctors just like her...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:14 AM (ynpvh)

190 A really weird dream I’ve had - and I found out other people have had this too, so it must mean something - is that I’m sitting at a table , and my teeth feel funny, so I reach up and take them all out of my mouth and lay them on the table in front of me. And then I try to put them back in so they fit right, but it’s hard and pretty frustrating.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:01 AM (k5cxK)


Yeah, I've been having a similar dream. Except that I'm sitting at the dining room table with several people, and they all take their teeth out, and can't get them back in, but I've still got mine. Then Mrs. Paco brings in a platter of steaks. "Well, if nobody else is going to eat these..."

Posted by: Paco at December 13, 2025 12:17 AM (2L+MU)

191 we were at a hotel and their was ac, but not that great- so suddenly she just grabbed a scissors and cut most of her hair off.

It was kind of a Britney Spears thing, I think.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 11:57 PM (k5cxK)

Bless her. The heat got to her. Our house was over a century old and he had to get a window unit for our bedroom. The only time I was happy that summer was in a pool. It was hideous.

My ancient car broke down one day that summer and I just left it in the street. Some men saw me leave it and pushed it out of the way. I didn't even care that I left it, but did thank them and called from somewhere to the man who supported me (I have blocked this part out). It was the old car he courted me in and proof I did not marry him for his money. His car was a stick shift and I did not learn how to drive it til we moved to FL.

It always freaked me out, when he was teaching me in the mountains, to feel the car roll a tiny bit backwards as I shifted into first gear. So I learned in FL.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 12:17 AM (WONhk)

192 I dreamt once that I was Daniel Jackson from Stargate SG-1. I was somewhere very different and abstract. It was a most unsettling dream, for a variety of reasons.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 12:18 AM (6p0Jv)

193 Yeah, I've been having a similar dream. Except that I'm sitting at the dining room table with several people, and they all take their teeth out, and can't get them back in, but I've still got mine. Then Mrs. Paco brings in a platter of steaks. "Well, if nobody else is going to eat these..."

Posted by: Paco at December 13, 2025 12:17 AM (2L+MU)

It means you're a gavone. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 12:19 AM (snZF9)

194 It's been a year for me. Son had to go in back in summer (being incredibly stupid, even required an ambulance ride).
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:13 AM (ynpvh)

Hoping next year will be better for you and everyone but Dims, trannies and anti-semites. I could probably think of others but I need to go to bed.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 12:19 AM (WONhk)

195 I dreamt once that I was Daniel Jackson from Stargate SG-1. I was somewhere very different and abstract. It was a most unsettling dream, for a variety of reasons.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 12:18 AM (6p0Jv)

I had dreams like that, but I wasn't any of the specific characters. I had a cool jaffa weapon though.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 12:21 AM (snZF9)

196 192 I dreamt once that I was Daniel Jackson from Stargate SG-1. I was somewhere very different and abstract. It was a most unsettling dream, for a variety of reasons.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 12:18 AM (6p0Jv)

I have often found myself in class, or in college, having missed most of the semester without the ability to withdraw. I used to run around trying to fix as much of it as I could, but the last few years when those dreams come up, I go, "Well, too late to do anything. I'll go off somewhere else and do something not so stressful." I still do occasionally have dreams where I have to do math, although it's been a couple of years since I had to do some calculus in my dreams (find the volume of a sphere with a hole drilled from one point through the center to the other side...had to wake up to finish that one).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:21 AM (ynpvh)

197
We're getting another stupid arctic air blast moving in Sunday, with forecast lows early Monday morning of 18F.

It's been a cold Dec. so far, avg. temp here about 40F compared to normal value for the month so far of about 46F (it's 45F for the whole month of Dec).

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 13, 2025 12:21 AM (w6EFb)

198 yeahhh I'm getting a bit twisted. Sampling the booze table. Been a while since I had JD. I went back for seconds of that.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 12:23 AM (snZF9)

199 I fall asleep by starting to dream. I know because if I’m really really tired but someone is keeping me up I’ll start to dream even while I’m still technically up,
Most often it’s my wife who’s more of a night person who wants to keep on talking , and she’ll asked me something she thinks is serious and I’ll do something like point at the dresser and say “yeah but we’ve got to take care of the cantaloupe patch here first”. So shell just say “okay put your head down you’re dreaming again.”

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:23 AM (k5cxK)

200 Via GP:

Another win for the Trump Administration.

A federal appeals court on Friday overturned Judge Talwani’s (already halted) orders blocking Trump’s Big Beautiful Bill provision that barred funding for Planned Parenthood.

The First Circuit Court of Appeals vacated Judge Talwani’s July orders granting preliminary injunctions blocking the provision.

The three-judge panel unanimously overturned Judge Talwani’s orders.

Posted by: Crusader at December 13, 2025 12:23 AM (Cjcf6)

201 194 It's been a year for me. Son had to go in back in summer (being incredibly stupid, even required an ambulance ride).
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:13 AM (ynpvh)

Hoping next year will be better for you and everyone but Dims, trannies and anti-semites. I could probably think of others but I need to go to bed.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 13, 2025 12:19 AM (WONhk)

That would be nice. 2025 started with the death of an uncle. I now have one uncle and one aunt left (Mom's older sister--the eldest, and her younger brother--the youngest). Still have lots of cousins, siblings, nieces and nephews, and my kids.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:24 AM (ynpvh)

202 I just had the most perfect Manhattan, I think I will have another.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 13, 2025 12:26 AM (XV/Pl)

203 197
We're getting another stupid arctic air blast moving in Sunday, with forecast lows early Monday morning of 18F.

It's been a cold Dec. so far, avg. temp here about 40F compared to normal value for the month so far of about 46F (it's 45F for the whole month of Dec).

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 13, 2025 12:21 AM (w6EFb)

It's started getting cold here again...highs have dropped into the low 70's, but should be back in the mid 70's in a few days. Lows have been in the low 50's...brrr!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:26 AM (ynpvh)

204 I have often found myself in class, or in college, having missed most of the semester without the ability to withdraw. I used to run around trying to fix as much of it as I could, but the last few years when those dreams come up, I go, "Well, too late to do anything. I'll go off somewhere else and do something not so stressful." I still do occasionally have dreams where I have to do math, although it's been a couple of years since I had to do some calculus in my dreams (find the volume of a sphere with a hole drilled from one point through the center to the other side...had to wake up to finish that one).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:21 AM (ynpvh)

Occasionally I do dream I'm back in high school, and it's always the same. I can't remember where my locker is, no clue what classes I should be in, teachers bitching at me for being late, and again, since I know when I'm dreaming I find myself saying in the dream "hey, I graduated, they can kiss my ass, not a damn thing they can do to me. lol

One time though, I was actually back in present day and spent the whole dream wandering around and looking at all the changes.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 12:27 AM (snZF9)

205 Lol Tom Servo. I can have entire discussions with hubby that he won't recall the next day.

Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 12:27 AM (6p0Jv)

206 199 I fall asleep by starting to dream. I know because if I’m really really tired but someone is keeping me up I’ll start to dream even while I’m still technically up,
Most often it’s my wife who’s more of a night person who wants to keep on talking , and she’ll asked me something she thinks is serious and I’ll do something like point at the dresser and say “yeah but we’ve got to take care of the cantaloupe patch here first”. So shell just say “okay put your head down you’re dreaming again.”

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:23 AM (k5cxK)

Wife, God rest her soul, would have more trouble than I would falling asleep. I could fall asleep in less than 30 seconds. So my wife would sometimes ask, "Honey, are you awake?", and I'd respond, "I am now."...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:28 AM (ynpvh)

207 193 It means you're a gavone. - Berserker-Dragonheads Division

Nah, I'm just a, whaddayacall, a conoyzer of good food.

Posted by: Paco at December 13, 2025 12:29 AM (2L+MU)

208 200 Via GP:

Another win for the Trump Administration.

A federal appeals court on Friday overturned Judge Talwani’s (already halted) orders blocking Trump’s Big Beautiful Bill provision that barred funding for Planned Parenthood.

The First Circuit Court of Appeals vacated Judge Talwani’s July orders granting preliminary injunctions blocking the provision.

The three-judge panel unanimously overturned Judge Talwani’s orders.

Posted by: Crusader at December 13, 2025 12:23 AM (Cjcf6)

So judges AREN'T allowed to preempt laws passed by Congress and signed by the President on a personal whim? Who would have thunk it...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:29 AM (ynpvh)

209 One time though, I was actually back in present day and spent the whole dream wandering around and looking at all the changes.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 12:27 AM (snZF9)

Feels weird when that happens...I'm way too old to be around, worried that teachers will call the police on me, so I sneak out of my HS as quickly and quietly as I can...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:31 AM (ynpvh)

210 Via GP:

A federal appeals court on Friday afternoon temporarily halted Judge Boasberg’s contempt hearings in the Alien Enemies Act deportations case scheduled for next week.

Earlier Friday, Judge James Boasberg made it clear that he was not backing off from his planned contempt hearings and threatened to pierce through attorney-client privilege in his order denying the government’s motion to reconsider.

Later Friday, a three-judge panel on the DC Circuit Court of Appeals temporarily halted Boasberg’s contempt hearings.

Judges Rao (Trump), Walker (Trump) granted an administrative stay pending further order of the court.
--minimu

Its about time Boasberg is removed from office. At the minimum, its time he was brought up on "conflict of interest" charges so that he can no longer sit on cases that involve the Trump Administration. Trump clearly lives inside Boasberg's head, and if Boasberg were *ethical* he would have already withdrawn from sitting on cases involving the current Administration.

Posted by: Crusader at December 13, 2025 12:33 AM (Cjcf6)

211 I fall asleep by starting to dream. I know because if I’m really really tired but someone is keeping me up I’ll start to dream even while I’m still technically up,

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 13, 2025 12:23 AM (k5cxK)

Thats how it starts with me. I'm in the dream before I'm totally asleep. I'm in the dream yet hear anything going on around me, or if I'm not in the right position and still trying to get settled. Weirder is if I happen to get up to pee I can go right back to the dream.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 12:33 AM (snZF9)

212 196 I have often found myself in class, or in college, having missed most of the semester without the ability to withdraw. - jim (in Kalifornia)

Now, in all truth, that is a dream I still have fairly frequently, usually involving my graduate school days, even though I graduated 32 years ago.

Posted by: Paco at December 13, 2025 12:34 AM (2L+MU)

213 207 193 It means you're a gavone. - Berserker-Dragonheads Division

Nah, I'm just a, whaddayacall, a conoyzer of good food.

Posted by: Paco at December 13, 2025 12:29 AM (2L+MU)

Food in my dreams often tastes BETTER than in real life. The corn I ate was fantastic! Buttery, intense corn flavor. Tropical fruits were excellent, beyond measure. I even ate a fruit that had a flavor I'd never encountered before.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:35 AM (ynpvh)

214
I manage to see an ISS pass yesterday morning around here at 6:35AM. And there's another one, a little bit more south and not quite as high due around 5:45AM this morning.

These are almost perfect, getting high overhead, taking a long arc from the SW to the NE. It was a cool thing to see, and I'm gonna catch the one this morning for sure.

What surprised me was how far away I could see it. When it first popped up over the horizon this morning, the thing was just coming off Mexico into the Gulf a little north of the Yucatan. That seems a long way considering how low the ISS is, but the math works out. Maximum line of sight distance can be ~1400 miles for ISS orbital height.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 13, 2025 12:35 AM (w6EFb)

215 Its about time Boasberg is removed from office. At the minimum, its time he was brought up on "conflict of interest" charges so that he can no longer sit on cases that involve the Trump Administration. Trump clearly lives inside Boasberg's head, and if Boasberg were *ethical* he would have already withdrawn from sitting on cases involving the current Administration.

Posted by: Crusader at December 13, 2025 12:33 AM (Cjcf6)


That fucker needs to be reduced to washing car windows at traffic lights in NYC, or treading lava in a fucking volcano.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 12:35 AM (snZF9)

216 212 196 I have often found myself in class, or in college, having missed most of the semester without the ability to withdraw. - jim (in Kalifornia)

Now, in all truth, that is a dream I still have fairly frequently, usually involving my graduate school days, even though I graduated 32 years ago.

Posted by: Paco at December 13, 2025 12:34 AM (2L+MU)

We must be close to the same age...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:36 AM (ynpvh)

217 if Boasberg were *ethical* he would have already withdrawn from sitting on cases involving the current Administration.

Posted by: Crusader at December 13, 2025 12:33 AM (Cjcf6)

Yeah, that's the problem with all leftist judges, isn't it? They have no sense of shame, hypocrisy, or ethics.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:38 AM (ynpvh)

218
Trump should just pardon everyone for the contempt "offenses" and moot everything. Suck it, Boasberg.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 13, 2025 12:40 AM (w6EFb)

219 I remember at one company we had to watch a series of modules with tests at the end, including a module on ethics. I finished it, and another co-worker came to me and asked for the answers to the ethics test...well, I *believe* he was joking with me...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:41 AM (ynpvh)

220 Happy Friday Horde!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 13, 2025 12:43 AM (0nHVk)

221 216 We must be close to the same age... - jim (in Kalifornia)

I'm guessing you're probably considerably younger. Desperation to find a better job finally drove me to go to graduate school, and I was older than most of my colleagues. I will remove all mystery by pleading to having turned 70 in June of this year.

Btw, I attended the American Graduate School of International Management, better known as Thunderbird, located in Glendale, AZ. It was a great school, and did, indeed, help me get out of the dreary profession of mid-level commercial banking. Sadly, Thunderbird ran into financial problems a decade or so after I graduated, and was ultimately take over by the ASU system.

Posted by: Paco at December 13, 2025 12:49 AM (2L+MU)

222 I dreamt once that I was Daniel Jackson from Stargate SG-1. I was somewhere very different and abstract. It was a most unsettling dream, for a variety of reasons.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 12:18 AM (6p0Jv)

Do you have any funny rocks in your possession?

Posted by: Methos at December 13, 2025 12:56 AM (vSvIl)

223 Ran out of things to say earlier, wandered off to the treacherous wilds of YooToob. Back to clock out.🕛

Closing with a short seasonal ditty of my own devising
The Terrible Christmas Song (video 40sec)
On a radar screen, a blip...
http://bit.ly/terrible-christmas-song

G'nite, y'all.

Posted by: mindful webworker - seriously not at December 13, 2025 12:58 AM (lbDMw)

224 Posted by: Paco at December 13, 2025 12:49 AM (2L+MU)

Indeed, you are. You have a bit more than a decade over me.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 12:59 AM (ynpvh)

225
Speaking of removing judges:
https://is.gd/hkgyfU

A Louisiana state judge was removed from office. She lied about her military service, and looks like some insurance fraud as well.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 13, 2025 01:00 AM (w6EFb)

226 222 I dreamt once that I was Daniel Jackson from Stargate SG-1. I was somewhere very different and abstract. It was a most unsettling dream, for a variety of reasons.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at December 13, 2025 12:18 AM (6p0Jv)

Do you have any funny rocks in your possession?

Posted by: Methos at December 13, 2025 12:56 AM (vSvIl)

My dad used to have a collection of radioactive ores...does that count? I'd sometimes play with them...I'm sure it didn't harm me THAT much, right?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 01:01 AM (ynpvh)

227 Well, I'm tired, so night all.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 13, 2025 01:01 AM (ynpvh)

228 I got my grandson's ride-on motorcycle assembled all by myself and I am rewarding myself with a beverage. It was great to see Teresa post early this evening.

Bers, I want you to take some pictures of your tree and show them to me at the next MoMe.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 13, 2025 01:05 AM (0nHVk)

229 Good night, jim, good luck with your surgery on Monday and ley us know how you are doing when you can.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 13, 2025 01:07 AM (0nHVk)

230 Evening, Horde. Company Christmas party this evening. Was nice / enjoyable. Won a countertop KitchenAid mixer. Food was Louisiana style - tried okra. Not too shabby.

Posted by: scampydog at December 13, 2025 01:16 AM (41CYW)

231 Speaking of removing judges:
https://is.gd/hkgyf

A Louisiana state judge was removed from office. She lied about her military service, and looks like some insurance fraud as well.
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Good news indeed! Now let's apply it to Congress and remove, prosecute, and extradite that stupid and illegal idiot from Minnesota.

Posted by: Crusader at December 13, 2025 01:24 AM (Cjcf6)

232 A Louisiana state judge was removed from office.

Good. Now let's get a few dozen Federal Judges removed from office. We know who the assholes are.

Posted by: Case at December 13, 2025 01:38 AM (G1OIb)

233 HEALTH

I won't fuck with sleep burning the candle at both and along all the middle and get it all.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 13, 2025 01:42 AM (/lPRQ)

234 Let's peel the onion on a topic.

We all know Ilhan Omar is an illegal alien. We all know that she has no business being in our country, much less a House rep.

But why? WHO/WHAT was behind that stupid bint coming here? WHO/WHAT greased her way to political power? WHO/WHAT said "Hey, its no problem--we'll just have her marry her brother?"

Is the Republican party just brain-dead?

Posted by: Crusader at December 13, 2025 01:46 AM (Cjcf6)

235
But why? WHO/WHAT was behind that stupid bint coming here? WHO/WHAT greased her way to political power? WHO/WHAT said "Hey, its no problem--we'll just have her marry her brother?"

Is the Republican party just brain-dead?
Posted by: Crusader

==============

I don't know which part of the onion this is, but I suspect the brusband was her/the family's own idea, just to get him out of the gay London scene and into college in America. In fact, all that happened before she got into politics.

How/why that happened is a bit mysterious. I've seen quite a few Somali politicians on social media since this came out, all of them of course bitching about this racist hellhole and a promise to elevate Somali concerns above all others. I don't know how they all figured out that getting into office is the way to go in America, but it seems to me like they did. Ilhan did hold a lesser office before she made it into Congress.

As for how (the method), there's evidence that she sent thugs around and threatened Somali householders to vote for her or get beaten up, robbed, whatever.

to be continued...

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 13, 2025 01:54 AM (1N/bM)

236 Had a long phone call w/lil bro.. he's on the road, headed to Nebraska..
---------

Last memorable dream I had, was me pushing hubby in his wheelchair down a long slope. There were humps in the path (it was paved) and it was rather steep... Wheee!
I controlled our speed, and we rode down the slope like it was a rollercoaster. We were laughing and having fun, and then suddenly saw the end of the slope-- needed to stop, so I dug-in my feet and sent us into a long, slow, circular slide! Round and round, stopping at the 'landing' which was a level area, on the way to this large old-fashioned building which was our destination. (We were always so goofy like that...)
But there was some time left, so I asked hubby if he wanted to "do it again" down the bumpy slope? The look on his face, said yes-- but then he said "no, we better just go on to the appointment.
A bus was coming through, so I moved us to the side-- and then the ground began crumbling from under us. I screamed for help as I held his wheelchair in one hand and grasped at the edge with the other, to keep us from falling. *****UGH!!!*****

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 01:55 AM (rdVOm)

237 Bers, I want you to take some pictures of your tree and show them to me at the next MoMe.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 13, 2025 01:05 AM (0nHVk)

I take pictures every year. Its the only way I know how to put it back up the next year. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 13, 2025 01:55 AM (snZF9)

238 Is the Republican party just brain-dead?
Posted by: Crusader

[no]
No, sir! We have our eyes on the prize!!

(Eats paste, makes poop sculptures, cowers under stairwell)

Posted by: Ohio GoPE at December 13, 2025 01:58 AM (+YRf1)

239
So I don't know if this was some outside campaign of Dems who figured "Hey, let's get some Black Muslim actual African America-haters to run for office! All white liberals know that if you don't vote for them, you're racist!" I think somehow Somalis figured it out.

As for Republicans being brain-dead, well, just look at the results. Who was eyeballing these enclaves as they were forming? Who was concerned about these low-achieving, poor, non-English-speaking refugees who weren't improving over time? Who was asking why a bunch of desert dwellers were showing up in Minnesota? Who was paying attention to their unvarying refrain of America-hatred, their blatant statements that they're more Somali than American, their preference for Sharia law if they could have it, the evidence of FGM going on in Somalia?

Well, ordinary people were, but politicians? lolol

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 13, 2025 02:01 AM (1N/bM)

240
More about Republicans being brain-dead, we all know of how AOC was recruited by the Justice Democrats. Now that is a smart organization that apparently went around quietly and ferreted out talkative, (wrongly) opinionated, charismatic people and used some expertise to get them into office. Changes are excellent that Justice Democrats got your tax dollars and mine to do their work while GOPers sat by calling for collegiality.

It's astonishing how far the Dems can push this shyte before (minimal and late) opposition from Republican lawmakers and policy makers.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 13, 2025 02:06 AM (1N/bM)

241
JQ, wow, that sounds like one meaningful dream. How is hubby these days?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 13, 2025 02:07 AM (1N/bM)

242 JFC

Just started watching "Beowolf", Netfux, 20 minutes... I did not realize early England was ethnically diverse so as to resemble a circus side show.... delete...

Someone should make a Shaka Zulu, five minutes is enough, with a diverse group of warriors...

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 13, 2025 02:12 AM (/lPRQ)

243 We're getting another stupid arctic air blast moving in Sunday, with forecast lows early Monday morning of 18F.

It's been a cold Dec. so far, avg. temp here about 40F compared to normal value for the month so far of about 46F (it's 45F for the whole month of Dec).
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 13, 2025 12:21 AM (w6EFb)

About 4 or 5 below here right now. May warm up a little tomorrow, better still on Sunday and Monday, according to the forecast.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 02:13 AM (npFr7)

244 Hi, Blondie. Thanks for asking. Hubs is "ok"-- for certain values of "ok"

Yeah, that dream had me crying for a few days.

Hubby still knows who/where he is (and hates it) and who I am... even though he refers to me/calls me by his XW's name. He cannot recognize unsafe situations.

I need to win the lottery, so I can hire enough help to bring him home.

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 02:14 AM (rdVOm)

245 I need to win the lottery, so I can hire enough help to bring him home.
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 02:14 AM (rdVOm)



Had a big Lotto win today! Got a free ticket on the next draw.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 02:25 AM (npFr7)

246 Yay, AOP! That's about as good as I've ever gotten, too.

Better than a kick in the teeth...

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 02:29 AM (rdVOm)

247 Well, 0030 here. Time for bed. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 13, 2025 02:31 AM (npFr7)

248 'Night, AOP

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 02:32 AM (rdVOm)

249 JQ, my heart aches for you, I have walked down the same road as you know. Sweet dreams Horde, I still have them sometimes, but I have had many of the JQ type too, they are unsettling.

JQ, I am picking up the Santa suit in the morning, I will get here as early as I can for the party tonight.

Hubs didn't know my name for the last two years of his life, but he knew that I was special to him. Sometimes you just cling to that raft.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 13, 2025 02:35 AM (0nHVk)

250 Hubby would've been a good Moron-- I'd read posts to him, years ago. He liked the Saturday Night Jokes (since the ol' MisHum times) and agreed with most of the political stuff, which he no longer understands of G.A.F. about...

He's just a shadow now, of the man he used to be. I miss him, though he's still 'here'

ClubONT is my escape. Sorry if some commenters consider it "threadjacking" but I *need* some sanity and this is the only place.

Fk. Sorry.

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 02:39 AM (rdVOm)

251 Good night, Debby. I *know* you understand!!!

See you tomorrow in ClubONT!!! Thanks for picking up the suit!

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 02:40 AM (rdVOm)

252
JQ, no such thing as jacking the ONT. My heart aches for you, too.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 13, 2025 02:44 AM (1N/bM)

253 Sorry if some commenters consider it "threadjacking" but I *need* some sanity and this is the only place.
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You're not threadjacking in The Club, JQ. Keep being you!

Posted by: scampydog at December 13, 2025 02:44 AM (wclU6)

254 That's very kind of you, Blondie.

I saw some daywalkers complaining the other day-- they were too passive-aggressive to specify, but I wondered whether they were referring to the whole Club concept or something else?

I'm not a trouble-maker, really, and don't wish to piss anyone off. If I pop up as "bartender" in some thread, does that harm anyone?

Anyway, not sleepy so I'm here whether anyone likes it, LOL!!!

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 02:50 AM (rdVOm)

255 Hey, Doggo. You're up late! Good to see you. And thanks.

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 02:52 AM (rdVOm)

256 "Sorry if some commenters consider it "threadjacking" but I *need* some sanity and this is the only place."

Thread jacking a open thread? Interesting concept. Has anyone notified ace of this?

Posted by: Otto Q. Cumber at December 13, 2025 02:52 AM (pcnhy)

257 Like you, I dont sleep much. And very much looking forward to your Club presence for the Christmas party tomorrow night.

Posted by: scampydog at December 13, 2025 02:54 AM (wclU6)

258 I'll be here for ClubONT Christmas Party, you better believe it!

Need to email TRex about the jukebox thing...

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 02:58 AM (rdVOm)

259 Noooo that's bad advice. At 500 yards? The laws of physics and Walter Slovotsky sayeth: THOU SHALL NOT TEMPT MURPHY, for he is a vicious God who will fucketh your world up just for the lols.

Aim center mass

Posted by: Fen at December 13, 2025 02:59 AM (2S1MH)

260 Did Miklos get unbanned?

Posted by: scampydog at December 13, 2025 03:00 AM (wclU6)

261 Why's Miklos banned?

He spamming the HQ about goulash again?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 13, 2025 03:02 AM (z5QST)

262 >>?Did Miklos get unbanned?
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Dunno. I'm not here until late, usually. Ask CBD?

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 03:02 AM (rdVOm)

263 Miklos' "raimondo on tap" stuff, triggers the auto-ban something (TB3K?)

I'd suggest that nobody put rai...do in their "Name" box, in any form, ever.

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 03:05 AM (rdVOm)

264 263 Miklos' "raimondo on tap" stuff, triggers the auto-ban something (TB3K?)

I'd suggest that nobody put rai...do in their "Name" box, in any form, ever.
Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 03:05 AM (rdVOm)

Yeah, that's happened to me too.

I imagine Chuck will be along to let him out of gaol soon enough.

If anyone know's Miklos's hash, I'll mention it in the tech thread. I'm apparently not going to be asleep.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 13, 2025 03:09 AM (z5QST)

265 Why's Miklos banned?

He spamming the HQ about goulash again?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 13, 2025 03:02 AM (z5QST)

IIRC, he was sock puppeting Rainman-do, and Pixy's AutoAttack hamsters caught him and tore him into bloody gobbets.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 13, 2025 03:10 AM (xceqr)

266 I posted Miklos' hash a couple of times last night..

Just a minute...

(N7hqt)

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 03:12 AM (rdVOm)

267 Gotta get Miklos unbanninated by tomorrow night-- he's my co-bartender!!!!!

I can't handle the Whole Horde all by meself!

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 03:14 AM (rdVOm)

268 Thank you. I'll pass it along again.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 13, 2025 03:15 AM (z5QST)

269 108 I also oddly loved hotdogs with everything on them (I don't like hotdogs normally).

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat

When she was pregnant with my older brother my mother had the cravings for hot dogs with everything.

She had it bad, real bad.
One day towards the end of the pregnancy she and my father were going out of town.

As the story goes she had my father stop at nearly every place they sold hot dogs on the way to wherever they were going.

She got two hit dogs at every stop.
By the end of the trip she’d reached a dozen hot dogs.

I’m guessing the lucky dozen satiated her but it had an unintended side effect, she got sick, real sick, ended up vomiting them all up, while swearing to herself she’d never eat another hot dog for the rest of her life. A promise she kept until her dying day.

In fact, she was so determined to keep that promise that it landed on my brother, who would not (and still won’t) eat a hot dog, or bologna, or Vienna sausages, or anything that remotely resembles tasting like a hot dog. The closest he”ll get is a sausage dog/bratwurst.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 03:25 AM (6ydKt)

270 Thanks, bear with asymmetrical balls! Hope Pixy will take care of it!

I may not be here for Tech Thread.

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 03:26 AM (rdVOm)

271 Posted by: SpeakingOf
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LOL! After watching my younger siblings (as toddlers) squish vienna sausages in their tiny fists... I just can't even eat those anymore. Dad used to snack on those & kept a stash of tins in the highest cupboard. Yeeesh.

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 03:30 AM (rdVOm)

272 G'night, Horde!

It's dark, quiet, and not too cold outside, so I will go out to the deck with Cat & give him some rubbys before sleepytime.

It's quite foggy, yet pleasant enough, out there...

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 03:35 AM (rdVOm)

273 Do not like: Folger's commercial. YMMV

Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 03:43 AM (RuTUS)

274 I still eat Viennas occasionally.
My father loved them, he was still eating them when could up until, he passed.

I’m not as thrilled with them as I used to be as kid, though.

Dad liked eating sardines, too.
He swears I used to love eating them with him sitting on his lap as a kid, but I don’t remember that far back and I certainly don’t eat them now.

Mom ate neither and always acted like she was gagging when she’d open a can of either of them for him.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 13, 2025 03:51 AM (6ydKt)

275 Sardines..eewww. XH liked them, with crackers. Yuck.

But I would buy them, and he would share them with our cat. She liked the ones in tomato sauce best. LOL

Posted by: JQ at December 13, 2025 03:57 AM (rdVOm)

276 Pixy's up!

Posted by: m at December 13, 2025 04:01 AM (RuTUS)

Friday Night Cafe

lighthouseonoutcrop.jpg
Llanddwyn Island (Angelsea),
by Gareth Mon Jones


Australian sheep dog asks random park-goers to play Dog Biathalon, which seems to be part fetch, part hide-and-seek.

Living in a low-trust society.

Cat waves bye-bye.

Hanging out.

Golden retriever is very protective of the new kitten.

Sneaking kisses.

Steve Inman:

Beatdown in Brazil.

Internet "prankster" attempts to provoke strong men, succeeds beyond his expectations.

"Man" shows he is very capable of beating the shit out of a woman. Against an actual man -- or against six other dudes who joined in -- not so much.

Bringing a knife to a fistfight.

He brought a steel rod to a carfight.

The first two clips of motorcycle mayhem are worth the watch, because the iniquitous get some rough justice. But most of the other clips are just guys wiping out, and I can't really get into that. Attempting stunts may be stupid, but it's not immoral. I don't want to see guys get wiped just for being dopey guys. Do watch the first couple, though.

Pro wrestling heel disrespects the wrong dad's kid.

Ratchet bitch starts a fight with a woman while she has a confederate film it for TikTok. Unfortunately, she brought a nothing to a fist fight.

I never heard this -- cats get mad if you mess up the spot they just cleaned with their tongue?

Posted by: Ace at 07:15 PM




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1 First without even trying

Posted by: fd at December 12, 2025 07:15 PM (vFG9F)

2 Evening. Hope ya'll are doing well.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at December 12, 2025 07:16 PM (2VheN)

3 nyah

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 12, 2025 07:18 PM (2GVsD)

4 Evenin ', Cafe folk.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 07:18 PM (jdPY0)

5 Rudolph the red-nosed alky.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 12, 2025 07:19 PM (2GVsD)

6 I'm out for the evening. Have fun.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 07:19 PM (WDjG6)

7 Aw, man, I just missed a serious willowing....

That said, I saw Mephitic Spheniscidae open for Flock of Seagulls at the Odeon back in '86.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 12, 2025 07:19 PM (LxER7)

8 Wow, that was short previous thread. We were just getting warmed up.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 12, 2025 07:19 PM (xceqr)

9 It is amazing how much stupid shit there is on the internet. I caught an Unsub podcast last week where they were talking about Johnny Somali. What a fucking idiot scrunt.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 07:19 PM (zZu0s)

10 That said, I saw Mephitic Spheniscidae open for Flock of Seagulls at the Odeon back in '86.

Did you run far away?

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 12, 2025 07:20 PM (2GVsD)

11 Night whig.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 07:20 PM (zZu0s)

12
*enters, twirling cane*

Good evening, Hordians.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 07:20 PM (tgvbd)

13 Thanks Anna. Now I have that song in my head.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 07:21 PM (zZu0s)

14 Evening.

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 07:21 PM (1Yy3c)

15 Aetius

Look up Bonnie Blue. Stupid blonde Aussie version of Kamala 'suck the garden hose' Harris who is now facing 15 years in Indonesia

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 12, 2025 07:21 PM (2GVsD)

16 Perhaps TJM can use the Ferris Bueller real ending. Cut to him with a bathroom wandering into his movie room when he notices the camera is still on and he chastises the audience for still watching.
Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 07:16 PM (WDjG6)

This. This!

Just film it once and edit it into the end of every video.

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 07:22 PM (1Yy3c)

17 Beat Navy!

Posted by: blaster at December 12, 2025 07:22 PM (RoO7G)

18
whig is such a great asset to AOS. I learn so much by reading his comments.

Have a great night whig.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 12, 2025 07:23 PM (3ek7K)

19 I just saw a thing where a door dash gal hosed down the food she was delivering eith pepper spray.

That is not urine, you retard, they will notice.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 07:23 PM (zZu0s)

20
Rudolph the red-nosed alky.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 12, 2025 07:19 PM (2GVsD)

_________

Rudolph the white-nosed reindeer
Had a very runny nose
And if you ever saw him
You would even say he blows.

While all the other reindeer
Bought Ferraris with their loot
Rudolph the white-nosed reindeer
Spent all of his cash on toot.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 07:23 PM (tgvbd)

21 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 07:23 PM (Ia/+0)

22 Do reindeer always run kind of sideways like that? That was cute.

Posted by: bluebell at December 12, 2025 07:24 PM (79pEw)

23 Skip, you really get a weekend off?

Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 07:24 PM (sDNVV)

24
Hiya Skip.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 12, 2025 07:24 PM (3ek7K)

25 Speaking of Navy - the Shawn Ryan v Dan Crenshaw slapfight is kinda emblematic of the whole Republican shit show.

Posted by: blaster at December 12, 2025 07:24 PM (RoO7G)

26 >>>8 Wow, that was short previous thread. We were just getting warmed up.

i didn't think there was much to comment on with that story. To be honest, I really should have folded it into The Week In Woke, but I needed another post.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 07:25 PM (1wjle)

27 Hopefully the Doordash ditz gets a whiff

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 12, 2025 07:25 PM (2GVsD)

28 Wes Moore is another Da Nang Dick-head?

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 12, 2025 07:26 PM (2GVsD)

29 Sal "Waddles" Ghiaccio, il pinguino de tutti pinguini, to his henchmen: "Ya know, we could use a smart raccoon like dat in de organization. He could go far; maybe even become a made 'coon".

Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 07:27 PM (2L+MU)

30
g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 12, 2025 07:27 PM (tljrc)

31 AltonJackson, hugs darlin.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 07:28 PM (sDNVV)

32 The ratchet girl fight - I would guess meth but they don't actually look methy.

The chick in the red shirt looks like she might have been cute before the swelling and contusions.

Posted by: blaster at December 12, 2025 07:28 PM (RoO7G)

33 Posted by: Anna Puma at December 12, 2025 07:21 PM (2GVsD)

Yeah, but as I said before that seems to be more for her kinks than her search for clicks.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 07:29 PM (zZu0s)

34
Quasi-willowed

There was a story of a guy at my university who did the oral defense of his thesis. In the customary ballet, he was excused after he finished and told to wait for the committee's decision.

An hour later he was still waiting and having a breakdown. Turns out his committee spent 20 seconds agreeing it was fine, then spent an hour discussing who would be the next president of the university.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 07:29 PM (tgvbd)

35
hugs right back, Ben Had

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 12, 2025 07:30 PM (tljrc)

36 25 Crenshaw asked to be on his show

Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2025 07:31 PM (YwEeS)

37 have you guys all watched Nathan For You? It's on HBO. (Which I signed up for for $3/month.)

So funny. He pretends he's doing a business rescue show where he, someone who took a handful of business classes at a mediocre college and got Bs and C's, offers "business advice" to business owners, but it's always these ludicrous scams and legal loophole plays and sometimes just absurd stunts.

Like in one he has an electronic store advertise a sale for 50 inch tvs for $20, but the fine print says you must be on line at a specific time, you must be wearing formal wear (tuxedos and gowns), and you can only reach the tvs by going through a hallway in which he has placed a real live alligator.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 07:34 PM (1wjle)

38 Evening, Ace, and Cafe found-ins. Still colder than a tax collector's heart here.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 07:34 PM (npFr7)

39 Friday night in Texas. The air is redolent of BBQ.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 07:35 PM (sDNVV)

40 I will say that last girl could take a punch.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 12, 2025 07:36 PM (KDPiq)

41 I just saw a thing where a door dash gal hosed down the food she was delivering eith pepper spray.

That is not urine, you retard, they will notice.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 07:23 PM (zZu0s)

That's a good way for her to earn a beating.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 07:36 PM (npFr7)

42
Agree wonderful smell Ben.

To cold for that here.

Enjoy.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 12, 2025 07:36 PM (3ek7K)

43 Penguins will often enlist the aid of a prehensile patsy to perpetrate their polymorphic perversity. Racoons are a favorite choice as they easily swayed to devious deeds that would be impossible for the flippered fiends to perpetrate on their own.

Posted by: Penguin Facts at December 12, 2025 07:37 PM (vFG9F)

44 Nathan for You advises a struggling caricature artist to rebrand himself as an insult comic caricature artist, favoring gay and racist attacks on his subjects.

https://youtu.be/wUY_i5Tco68?si=i72u9xfyHALqb3Gj

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 07:37 PM (1wjle)

45 Thinking about turning on the AC

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 07:37 PM (ZxPkt)

46 Friday night in Texas. The air is redolent of BBQ.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 07:35 PM (sDNVV)

Just the smell could fill you up.

Posted by: LASue at December 12, 2025 07:37 PM (UwBs6)

47 have you guys all watched Nathan For You? It's on HBO. (Which I signed up for for $3/month.)
Posted by: ace


I fucking hate embarrassment humor. It's like cancer with clown makeup.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 12, 2025 07:38 PM (mlg/3)

48 Like in one he has an electronic store advertise a sale for 50 inch tvs for $20, but the fine print says you must be on line at a specific time, you must be wearing formal wear (tuxedos and gowns), and you can only reach the tvs by going through a hallway in which he has placed a real live alligator.
Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 07:34 PM (1wjle)


What do you mean scams? That is totally legit!

Posted by: SXM Cancellation Department at December 12, 2025 07:39 PM (RoO7G)

49
The pepper spray bitch was delivering Arby's.

How good is Arby's delivered?

Posted by: fourseasons at December 12, 2025 07:39 PM (3ek7K)

50 LASue, hope you and yours are well.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 07:39 PM (sDNVV)

51 I fucking hate embarrassment humor. It's like cancer with clown makeup.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 12, 2025 07:38 PM (mlg/3)

How do I know you aren’t a fan of The Office?

Posted by: the way I see it at December 12, 2025 07:39 PM (KDPiq)

52 Wes Moore is another Da Nang Dick-head?
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Even Wikipedia (which is far-left) has a laundry list of controversies associated with him.

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 07:39 PM (TN0g+)

53 Ooh found this old sig.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 12, 2025 07:40 PM (RoO7G)

54 Ooh found this old sig.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 12, 2025 07:40 PM (RoO7G)

55 some green beret has a podcast referring to dan "deepthroat" crenshaw, dan has to be having a hard time getting banned from junkets

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 07:40 PM (EIQMg)

56 >Do reindeer always run kind of sideways like that? That was cute.

Posted by: bluebell
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of course
with names like Dasher Dancer Prancer and Vixen, they are required to strut

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 07:41 PM (ZxPkt)

57 Fortune favors the bold

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 07:41 PM (ZxPkt)

58 How do I know you aren’t a fan of The Office?
Posted by: the way I see i


I tried watching the Brit original. My downstairs neighbor almost got a free, slightly damaged monitor.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 12, 2025 07:42 PM (mlg/3)

59 How good is Arby's delivered?
Posted by: fourseasons at December 12, 2025 07:39 PM (3ek7K)

Better than cold Taco Bell.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 07:43 PM (zZu0s)

60 strutting is not inherently gay the way sashay is

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 07:43 PM (EIQMg)

61 I've got an Arby's story that will curl your fries and not in a good way. Suffice to say I don't go to that store anymore.

Posted by: fd at December 12, 2025 07:43 PM (vFG9F)

62 The pepper spray bitch was delivering Arby's.

How good is Arby's delivered?
Posted by: fourseasons at December 12, 2025 07:39 PM (3ek7K)

What recourse do the Door Dash customers have in a case like that?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 07:44 PM (npFr7)

63 Perhaps TJM can use the Ferris Bueller real ending. Cut to him with a bathroom wandering into his movie room when he notices the camera is still on and he chastises the audience for still watching.
Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 07:16 PM

Or better yet, just do "That's all I have for today. Go away now!" in a sarcastic sneer!

Posted by: Amy Schumer at December 12, 2025 07:44 PM (xceqr)

64 Cool lighthouse.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 07:44 PM (viF8m)

65 And down goes discount Jet Li covered in Soy Pee.

Poetry. Pure poetry.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 07:44 PM (6ydKt)

66 How good is Arby's delivered?
Posted by: fourseasons at December 12, 2025 07:39 PM (3ek7K)


Start with how good is Arby's?

Work backward from there.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 12, 2025 07:45 PM (RoO7G)

67 What recourse do the Door Dash customers have in a case like that?
Posted by: Alb



have you read about door dacs girl

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 07:45 PM (EIQMg)

68 have you guys all watched Nathan For You? It's on HBO. (Which I signed up for for $3/month.)
Posted by: ace

I fucking hate embarrassment humor. It's like cancer with clown makeup.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 12, 2025 07:38 PM (mlg/3)

I got about 1:17 in, but the desire to punch, not just those two douchebags, but anyone who finds that funny overwhelmed me.

I'm trying to be a nice guy.

That doesn't help.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2025 07:45 PM (meunJ)

69 JackStraw, I hope Elvis has some treats left.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 07:45 PM (sDNVV)

70
One of my favorite groups is The Struts.

It's too bad they aren't more well known.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 12, 2025 07:46 PM (3ek7K)

71 69 JackStraw, I hope Elvis has some treats left.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 07:45 PM (sDNVV)


Is that some kind of code?

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 12, 2025 07:46 PM (RoO7G)

72 Criminals are really stupid . I mean you are robbing 5 men larger than you with a pea shooter and you take your eye off all of them who are a foot from you , except the one guy you’re patting down with no idea where your only protection is (not pointing at anyone ) .

He should be beaten just for being stupid.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 12, 2025 07:46 PM (KDPiq)

73 I believe that reindeer is a bit light in the loafers. I'm not judging though.

Posted by: fd at December 12, 2025 07:47 PM (vFG9F)

74 How good is Arby's delivered?
Posted by: fourseasons at December 12, 2025 07:39 PM (3ek7K)

Better than cold Taco Bell.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 07:43 PM (zZu0s)

Arbys is delivered before you eat it.

Taco Bell is delivered AFTER you eat it.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2025 07:47 PM (meunJ)

75 If Arby’s is half as good as their commercials make them look, then they would be top fast food restaurant of all time.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 12, 2025 07:48 PM (KDPiq)

76
Lol BurtTC

Posted by: fourseasons at December 12, 2025 07:48 PM (3ek7K)

77 door dash girl

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 07:49 PM (EIQMg)

78 >>JackStraw, I hope Elvis has some treats left.

1 to go tomorrow, Ben Had.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 07:49 PM (viF8m)

79 I believe that reindeer is a bit light in the loafers. I'm not judging though.

Posted by: fd at December 12, 2025 07:47 PM (vFG9F)

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Rudolph the brown-nosed reindeer.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 07:49 PM (25a1J)

80 Arby's couldn't cut it in Corsicana.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 07:49 PM (sDNVV)

81 JackStraw ,is that the filet or T-bone ?

Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 07:50 PM (sDNVV)

82 From the Department of Things I Didn’t Know (it’s a really big department).

In 1990, the Soviets had a Miss KGB contest.

https://tinyurl.com/4uhr62z7

This occurred not long before the collapse of the Soviet Union, so Ms. Mayorova soon found herself without a job; however, she succeeded in landing a position with Penguin Facts, where she served as principal liaison with left-wing billionaire Geetus L. Mazuma, the so-called Pizza King. As previously noted, Mazuma has been donating huge sums of money to Penguin Facts for years in furtherance of his plan to corner the market on anchovies by destroying his main competitors, i.e., the entire penguin race. (The fact that people who order pizza with anchovies are also the sort of people who put cheese on their apple pie is a side issue which need not detain us from considering the more important issue of Spheniscidacide.)

Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 07:51 PM (2L+MU)

83 Rudolph the brown-nosed reindeer.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 07:49 PM (25a1J)

Speaking of, anyone who has not seen Robbie the Reindeer, it's made by the same folks who made Wallace and Gromit.

Robbie is Rudolph's son, and he must try to live up to his dad's legacy.

There's enough adult level humor to make it fun, and nothing is objectionable enough to keep kids from watching.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2025 07:52 PM (VOfD/)

84 Perhaps TJM can use the Ferris Bueller real ending. Cut to him with a bathroom wandering into his movie room when he notices the camera is still on and he chastises the audience for still watching.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 07:16 PM

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Dolly in a bikini bringing him a pipe and slippers FTW!

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 07:52 PM (25a1J)

85 with names like Dasher Dancer Prancer and Vixen, they are required to strut - Don Black

Hmm. With names like that, one would think they'd be more likely to, er, sashay, so, yes, strutting is mandatory.

Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 07:53 PM (2L+MU)

86 In 1990, the Soviets had a Miss KGB contest.

Evenink wear...Schwim wear....

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 12, 2025 07:54 PM (RoO7G)

87 strutting is not inherently gay the way sashay is
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 07:43 PM (EIQMg)

Nancing is.

Mincing is right out.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 07:55 PM (zZu0s)

88 Damn, asshat that wrecked the bicycle race needed a beat down. Someone that stupid needs to be nailed to a tree.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 12, 2025 07:55 PM (snZF9)

89 From the Department of Things I Didn’t Know (it’s a really big department).

In 1990, the Soviets had a Miss KGB contest.

https://tinyurl.com/4uhr62z7

This occurred not long before the collapse of the Soviet Union, so Ms. Mayorova soon found herself without a job; however, she succeeded in landing a position with Penguin Facts, where she served as principal liaison with left-wing billionaire Geetus L. Mazuma, the so-called Pizza King. As previously noted, Mazuma has been donating huge sums of money to Penguin Facts for years in furtherance of his plan to corner the market on anchovies by destroying his main competitors, i.e., the entire penguin race. (The fact that people who order pizza with anchovies are also the sort of people who put cheese on their apple pie is a side issue which need not detain us from considering the more important issue of Spheniscidacide.)
Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 07:51 PM (2L+MU)

She can bug my embassy anytime she wants!

IYKWIMAITYD

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2025 07:55 PM (VOfD/)

90 >>JackStraw ,is that the filet or T-bone ?

He had steak on his birthday. Tomorrow he gets his favorite type chew bone. Yea, he's spoiled. Sue me.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 07:55 PM (viF8m)

91
He should be beaten just for being stupid.
Posted by: the way I see it
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I have a bumper sticker, 'Too Bad That Ignorance Isn't Painful'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2025 07:56 PM (XeU6L)

92 JackStraw, I salute you.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 07:56 PM (sDNVV)

93
Criminals are really stupid

_________

Hey, I got drugs in the car. Lemme run this stop sign.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 07:58 PM (tgvbd)

94 Frigging chuckle heads screwing around on motorcycles is always amusing. They never learn.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 12, 2025 07:59 PM (snZF9)

95 Arby's, like most fast food, used to be a lot better.

I go occasionally, and I'll usually get the French dip sandwich but I've had their cheeseburger and it's not terrible. They also have a limited time hoagie-type sandwich around Thanksgiving made with deep-fried turkey that's tasty.

I used to love just getting a couple of beef & cheddars when I was a kid, but they're nowhere near as big now unless you get a double or triple.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 07:59 PM (6ydKt)

96 Frigging chuckle heads screwing around on motorcycles is always amusing. They never learn.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads
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Sometimes, that first fuckup is really instructive.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2025 08:00 PM (XeU6L)

97 Anybody read that Laura Loomer deposition about Arby's?

That's hilarious!

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 12, 2025 08:01 PM (RoO7G)

98 Gotta enjoy those Steve Inman videos. A bit of humor and a good dose of justice.

Posted by: JTB at December 12, 2025 08:02 PM (yTvNw)

99 Arby's, like most fast food, used to be a lot better.

I go occasionally, and I'll usually get the French dip sandwich but I've had their cheeseburger and it's not terrible. They also have a limited time hoagie-type sandwich around Thanksgiving made with deep-fried turkey that's tasty.

I used to love just getting a couple of beef & cheddars when I was a kid, but they're nowhere near as big now unless you get a double or triple.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 07:59 PM (6ydKt)

The Big Montana. A big pile of delicious meat on a bun with nothing else but a bit of horsey sauce. My once-a-year treat.

Posted by: LASue at December 12, 2025 08:03 PM (UwBs6)

100 Even better - that deposition was about MTG!

Will Rogers (yes i'm 29 dammit) used to say "I don't belong to an organized political party. I'm a Democrat!"

I guess we have swiped it.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 12, 2025 08:03 PM (RoO7G)

101 A lot of meaty threads today, thanks Ace. I was offline a lot of the day and come back to find you dump your cache for the week.

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 12, 2025 08:05 PM (jc0TO)

102 The Big Montana. A big pile of delicious meat on a bun with nothing else but a bit of horsey sauce. My once-a-year treat.

Posted by: LASue at December 12, 2025 08:03 PM (UwBs6)

I remember the name but never got to try one.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 08:05 PM (6ydKt)

103 Ace of Spades. We have the MEATS!

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 12, 2025 08:06 PM (RoO7G)

104 Nancing is.

Mincing is right out.
Posted by: Aetius




yes

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 08:07 PM (V0RQu)

105 Arby's, like most fast food, used to be a lot better.


I have never cared for Arby's roast beef. I make a roast beef sandwich with thick slices from a chuckroast, not paper thin piles.

Their gyro is not bad though, if you tell them to put extra sauce on it.

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 12, 2025 08:07 PM (jc0TO)

106 90% of everything is garbage

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 08:08 PM (V0RQu)

107 In 1990, the Soviets had a Miss KGB contest.

-
She'll pull out your fingernails with a smile on her face.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 08:08 PM (L/fGl)

108 Potato cakes.

*mic drop*

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 08:09 PM (zZu0s)

109 Jake gets a steak finger every morning. Pretty cheap as far as dog treats go.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 08:10 PM (+mUZM)

110 Updates!
1. The first batch of snow globe cookies are a fail. They stuck to the cheap parchment paper. Lesson learned.

2. I am having to restore my iPad from this ridiculous Liquid Glass update that killed it even though it’s the latest gen Air. The autocorrect on this is crazy. It keeps going back to the word it thinks you should use. Not the one you want.

3. My Mac is telling me this will take 7 hours. Screaming.

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 08:10 PM (ZdaMQ)

111 Their gyro is not bad though, if you tell them to put extra sauce on it.

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 12, 2025 08:07 PM (jc0TO)

I've been spoiled by a local deli's gyros.

I tried Arby's once, and was "WTF is this?"
Never tried it again.

I like thin roast beef or thicker roast beef on sandwiches.
I'm easy to please on the sandwich front as long as the word 'pastrami' doesn't enter the discussion.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 08:11 PM (6ydKt)

112 Ace of Spades. We have the MEATS!
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 12, 2025 08:06 PM


You may beat our team, but you'll never beat our meats!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 08:11 PM (0sNs1)

113 When I was a kid, we had no Arby's. When we were in Denver that's where we'd go. We thought we were living large.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 08:11 PM (L/fGl)

114 3. My Mac is telling me this will take 7 hours. Screaming.

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 08:10 PM (ZdaMQ)

I've never tried to restore a previous update but that sounds about right for an Apple procedure over a USB cable.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 08:12 PM (6ydKt)

115 I never heard this -- cats get mad if you mess up the spot they just cleaned with their tongue?
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Apparently they are not fond of "human stink." So they clean the spot all over again to remove your scent.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 08:12 PM (ESVrU)

116 You may beat our team, but you'll never beat our meats!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 08:11 PM


Actual University of South Carolina tee-shirt: You Can't Lick Our Cocks.

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 12, 2025 08:13 PM (jc0TO)

117 I member back when Hardee's had roast beef as well.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 08:13 PM (zZu0s)

118 Donder and Blitzen.

Lightning and Thunder.

Don't mess with bad-ass Nazi reindeer with droning capabilities.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at December 12, 2025 08:13 PM (DsA2n)

119 Apparently they are not fond of "human stink." So they clean the spot all over again to remove your scent.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 08:12 PM (ESVrU)

I hear the Japanese have the same problem with us dairy-loving white people.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 08:13 PM (6ydKt)

120 I did that update on my old ipad. It seemed okay but I haven't updated this one. I get so tired of the spacebar not working.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 08:13 PM (+mUZM)

121 I member back when Hardee's had roast beef as well.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 08:13 PM


Our Hardees closed. It's been replaced by some kind of chicken place but it is still in a bad location.

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 12, 2025 08:14 PM (jc0TO)

122 For your pleasure, a 9-11 call...

https://youtube.com/shorts/cXLFG6e3h94

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 08:14 PM (ynpvh)

123 97 Anybody read that Laura Loomer deposition about Arby's?
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Inspire owns
Arby's
Buffalo Wild Wings
Sonic Drive-In
Dunkin'
Baskin-Robbins
Jimmy John's

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 08:15 PM (imZqa)

124 Breaking News: The Austin, Texas baristas have joined the strike against Starbucks.

Many are marching with a sign that reads "Don't cross our picket line".

Easy peasy. Not even an inconvenience.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 08:15 PM (0sNs1)

125 I hear the Japanese have the same problem with us dairy-loving white people.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 08:13 PM


I would be shunned like a leper then.

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 12, 2025 08:15 PM (jc0TO)

126 An hour later he was still waiting and having a breakdown. Turns out his committee spent 20 seconds agreeing it was fine, then spent an hour discussing who would be the next president of the university.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 07:29 PM (tgvbd)
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Sounds about right for academia.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 08:16 PM (ESVrU)

127 117 I member back when Hardee's had roast beef as well.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 08:13 PM (zZu0s)

Hardees was unusual for having Hot Ham & Cheese, and Big cookies.

That was my goto order at about two in the morning with the munchies after a night out in the 90s.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 08:16 PM (6ydKt)

128 "Left-wing" billionaire Geetus L. Mazuma noted in his own biography that his animosity towards penguins was due to an encounter in his early teens with an overstimulated Sphenisciforme.

Penguin Facts will point out that what was considered "Left wing" in 1990 would be quite mainstream nowadays. Shifting attitudes about the vermin currently trying to claim the moniker that actually belongs to an extinct species of sea fowl have led to a greater awareness of the mephitic menace.

Posted by: fd at December 12, 2025 08:17 PM (vFG9F)

129 Hmm. Drinking night in 90s?

White Castle
Steak and Shake
Dennys

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 08:17 PM (zZu0s)

130 Or taco bell

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 08:17 PM (zZu0s)

131 Actual University of South Carolina tee-shirt: You Can't Lick Our Cocks.
Posted by: toby928(c) at December 12, 2025 08:13 PM (jc0TO)


Fan poster from USC (South Carolina) v USC (Southern Cal) game - NO TROJANS CAN HOLD OUR COCKS!!

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at December 12, 2025 08:18 PM (RoO7G)

132 Idiots on motorcycles have to have 9 lives

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 08:18 PM (Ia/+0)

133 I ordered Taco Bell after a long hiatus of … not eating there very often. It wasn’t … bad .. but the portions were small. I anticipated that and ordered a metric crapload. Too expensive for what you get, and what you get isn’t anything to jump and shout about. A good Mexican style restaurant probably still does OK

Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 08:18 PM (Wu2hV)

134 90% of everything is garbage
Posted by: n


Sounds familiar.

Posted by: Theodore Sturgeon at December 12, 2025 08:18 PM (mlg/3)

135 90% of everything is garbage
Posted by: n


Sturgeon's Law ...

Posted by: Adriane the Not Cynical Enough Critic . . . at December 12, 2025 08:18 PM (3ZUWJ)

136 Apparently they are not fond of "human stink." So they clean the spot all over again to remove your scent.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 08:12 PM


Wait until they encounter penguin excreta.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 08:19 PM (0sNs1)

137 Cats is cool, ain't they?

Posted by: Eromero at December 12, 2025 08:19 PM (LHPAg)

138 Posted by: Theodore Sturgeon at December 12, 2025 08:18 PM (mlg/3)

I owe you a coke, good Sir ...

Posted by: Adriane the Not Cynical Enough Critic . . . at December 12, 2025 08:20 PM (3ZUWJ)

139 I've given Taco Bell chance after chance.
Last time I had it I got sick the next day.

Which sucks, because I liked their Mexican pizzas until about 2015.

I think everything they have is shipped in and microwaved now.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 08:20 PM (6ydKt)

140 "90% of everything is garbage
Posted by: n

Sturgeon's Law ...
Posted by: Adriane the Not Cynical Enough Critic

Words to live by.

Posted by: Guy who always says "It's garbage"" at December 12, 2025 08:20 PM (vFG9F)

141 Jasmine Crockett challenges anyone to produce a clip of Democrats invoking violence.

https://tinyurl.com/bd9rktr8

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 08:20 PM (imZqa)

142 Drinking night in 90s?
——-

Jack In The Crack located at Tillicum, WA had those righteous curly fries. A bacon burger rounded out the kingly repast. Right as rain, good as new by morning. Mostly

Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 08:20 PM (Wu2hV)

143 New York Post
@nypost
Meet the socialist LA leader making $240K to reign over drug-infested park as it crumbles

-
Well, she's doing every bit as good a job as Big Mouf Bass.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 08:20 PM (L/fGl)

144 I ordered Taco Bell after a long hiatus of … not eating there very often. It wasn’t … bad .. but the portions were small. I anticipated that and ordered a metric crapload. Too expensive for what you get, and what you get isn’t anything to jump and shout about. A good Mexican style restaurant probably still does OK
Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 08:18 PM (Wu2hV)
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I made tacos this past week using Taco Bell seasoning mix. They tasted very close to the real deal. Although the meat was pricey, the rest of the ingredients are pretty cheap ($0.85 for the seasoning--for 10 tacos).

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 08:21 PM (ESVrU)

145 141 Jasmine Crockett challenges anyone to produce a clip of Democrats invoking violence.

https://tinyurl.com/bd9rktr8

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 08:20 PM (imZqa)

Any day of the week ending in "y"...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 08:21 PM (ynpvh)

146 I think it's Anglesey, not Angelsea. But Angelsea does sound nicer.

Posted by: IrishEi at December 12, 2025 08:21 PM (3ImbR)

147 >>>hide-and-seek

The proper name of the game is hide-and-go-seek. Only Commies say it the other way.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2025 08:22 PM (syz1S)

148
Many are marching with a sign that reads "Don't cross our picket line".

Easy peasy. Not even an inconvenience.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 08:15 PM (0sNs1)

_________

The only thing I enjoy from SBUX is their Strawberry and Crème Frappucino.

When I want coffee, I want some ordinary joe, not blended half-caff latte soy whip. And their ordinary joe is awful and overpriced. Better stuff at Buc-ee's at half the price.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 08:22 PM (tgvbd)

149 Cats is cool, ain't they?
Posted by: Eromero at December 12, 2025 08:19 PM (LHPAg)
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I dunno...I think of them as furry hot water bottles when they sit on my lap or curl up with me at night.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 08:22 PM (ESVrU)

150 Going to have to take a nap tomorrow so that I can make it to Christmas party at the ONT club.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 08:23 PM (sDNVV)

151 149 Cats is cool, ain't they?
Posted by: Eromero at December 12, 2025 08:19 PM (LHPAg)
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I dunno...I think of them as furry hot water bottles when they sit on my lap or curl up with me at night.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 08:22 PM (ESVrU)

Depends how long they're trapped in the fridge or freezer...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 08:24 PM (ynpvh)

152 Before Bill Penzey had the stroke I used to order a lot of their spices. They had a good Chili powder & mix. Nice deep red color & Ancho flavah. Chili powder goes stale pretty fast unfortunately.

Tough to find good spices In quantity. McCormick ain’t it.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 08:25 PM (Wu2hV)

153
Just saw some footage of Trump honoring the Miracle on Ice hockey team for 1980.

I love these shots of him in the Oval Office. He always sits in the chair, with everyone else standing around him. This is a power move. He's Captain Kirk in The Chair. That the bridge of the USS United States. He's the captain. In the chair. The boss. The big cheese. The Big Kahuna.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 12, 2025 08:25 PM (w6EFb)

154 I dunno...I think of them as furry hot water bottles when they sit on my lap or curl up with me at night.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 08:22 PM


What do they think of you?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 08:25 PM (0sNs1)

155 A good Mexican style restaurant probably still does OK
Posted by: Common Tater


I just made 6 burritos with leftover pot roast today. In the freezer ready for a quick lunch.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 12, 2025 08:26 PM (mlg/3)

156
The boss. The big cheese. The Big Kahuna.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 12, 2025 08:25 PM (w6EFb)

________

The Don

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 08:26 PM (tgvbd)

157 Before Bill Penzey had the stroke I used to order a lot of their spices. They had a good Chili powder & mix. Nice deep red color & Ancho flavah. Chili powder goes stale pretty fast unfortunately.

Tough to find good spices In quantity. McCormick ain’t it.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 08:25 PM


His (I believe) sister runs the apolitical The Spice House. There's also Savory Spice. I use both.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 08:26 PM (0sNs1)

158 Taco Bell is owned by Yum! Brands
Pizza Hut
KFC
Long John Silver's
The Habit Burger Grill
A&W
WingStreet
Pizzeria Uno

They have made moves to enhance their portfolio with newer, trendy concepts, such as ghost kitchens and delivery-focused brands.

Yum! Brands continuously seeks opportunities in the fast-food market, focusing on international growth and diverse dining options.
_DDG AI

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 08:27 PM (imZqa)

159 I dunno...I think of them as furry hot water bottles when they sit on my lap or curl up with me at night.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 08:22 PM

What do they think of you?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 08:25 PM (0sNs1)
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An ice pack?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 08:27 PM (ESVrU)

160 Warm pillows

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 08:28 PM (Ia/+0)

161 >>I ordered Taco Bell after a long hiatus of … not eating there very often. It wasn’t … bad .. but the portions were small. I anticipated that and ordered a metric crapload. Too expensive for what you get, and what you get isn’t anything to jump and shout about. A good Mexican style restaurant probably still does OK

That's what I don't get about Five Guys. The foods ok but the prices are regular restaurant not fast food and there are way too many restaurants around here with better food for similar pricing.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 08:28 PM (viF8m)

162
They have made moves to enhance their portfolio with newer, trendy concepts, such as ghost kitchens and delivery-focused brands.

_______

They might try improving the quality of the food.

I know, stop laughing.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 08:28 PM (tgvbd)

163
My cats think of me as furniture.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 12, 2025 08:28 PM (w6EFb)

164 Yeah, I cook for myself now. Too easy to get e. Coli and golly knows what else these days. Not worth the risks to eat “fast” food, since it is so crappy now and slow. But a good mom & pop restaurant can probably still crank out a good meal. Just be prepared for sticker shock.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 08:29 PM (Wu2hV)

165 That's what I don't get about Five Guys. The foods ok but the prices are regular restaurant not fast food and there are way too many restaurants around here with better food for similar pricing.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 08:28 PM (viF8m)

But where else are you going to get a 5 pound bag of fries with a pound of grease on the bottom?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 08:29 PM (6ydKt)

166 I would hock the farm for some really good fish n chips right now.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 08:30 PM (sDNVV)

167 I think of them as furry hot water bottles when they sit on my lap or curl up with me at night.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 08:22 PM

What do they think of you?
Posted by: Duncanthrax


same thing only bigger?

Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 12, 2025 08:31 PM (a+4eV)

168 Turn that $40 of Taco Bell into $80 with door dash

Posted by: NCKate at December 12, 2025 08:31 PM (uQzkA)

169 Pantone’s 2026 Color of the Year is Cloud Dancer aka White

Cloud Dancer also lands in a year when our built environment is drifting toward aesthetic sterilization, complete with more white and less friction. (The Development/Courtesy Pantone)

But Cloud Dancer’s ascent doesn’t happen in a vacuum. It lands in a moment when America’s political architecture is staging its own whitening. From the East Wing teardown to a planned paint-over of the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, the federal palette has converged on one directive: Make America White Again.
_https://www.archpaper.com
/2025/12/ pantone-2026- color-of-the-year-
cloud-dancer/

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 08:32 PM (imZqa)

170 168 Turn that $40 of Taco Bell into $80 with door dash

Posted by: NCKate at December 12, 2025 08:31 PM (uQzkA)

That's why I've used Uber or Door Dash maybe five times.

I can order stuff on my phone and drive the 1 to 5 miles to get it myself.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 08:33 PM (6ydKt)

171 Decades ago, the husband of a cow orker, who had run a fairly upscale restaurant in Steamboat Springs, moved with his wife here so she could get a real lawyer job. He took a job at Arby's but soon quit. He couldn't deal with the concept of artificial Cheese Whiz.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 08:34 PM (L/fGl)

172 >>I would hock the farm for some really good fish n chips right now.

Now that we have around here.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 08:34 PM (viF8m)

173 You old timers hoping to fill your gut on $1.25 are out of luck. I do remember buying a slice of pizza in Brooklyn for 15 cents, 1965. Thought they were gouging when it went to a quarter.

Posted by: Days Gone By at December 12, 2025 08:34 PM (oftw2)

174 I mainly cook my own meals these days. Tonight I’m baking us a butternut squash because they’re in the stores in the winter, we like them, they’re cheap, and they’re easy to bake.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 08:35 PM (k5cxK)

175 Pantone’s 2026 Color of the Year is Cloud Dancer aka White
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 08:32 PM


Until the 'ettes add this to their list of fashion colors, it doesn't mean much.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 08:36 PM (0sNs1)

176 174 I mainly cook my own meals these days. Tonight I’m baking us a butternut squash because they’re in the stores in the winter, we like them, they’re cheap, and they’re easy to bake.
Posted by: Tom Servo

They are very easy to grow, plant a row and get a hundred pounds of them. Also store pretty well, save the seeds and plant them next spring.

Posted by: Squash Racket at December 12, 2025 08:39 PM (oftw2)

177 The proper name of the game is hide-and-go-seek. Only Commies say it the other way.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2025 08:22 PM


Only British poofters say hide-and-go-seek. ie 'After we eat our spotted dick, let's play hide-and-go-seek.'

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 12, 2025 08:39 PM (jc0TO)

178 115 I never heard this -- cats get mad if you mess up the spot they just cleaned with their tongue?
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Apparently they are not fond of "human stink." So they clean the spot all over again to remove your scent.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

---------------
I don't think it's the smell, I think it is idea that we are "marking" them. Cats mark us as part of their territory or clan. If we then rub against them the feel dissed, thinking we are marking them. But I don't know, I don't have a cat sense of smell. Maybe they can tell but if that's the case, why would they want to live in our houses. Our whole world must smell worse than our fingers.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 12, 2025 08:40 PM (uxVjF)

179 Russia's present, our future

I’m Russian. Here’s How Corruption Really Works.

https://youtu.be/0B8AyBhwasI

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 12, 2025 08:41 PM (jc0TO)

180 I don't go to Starbucks but I have a sudden urge to...

Posted by: lin-duh at December 12, 2025 08:41 PM (VCgbV)

181 I parboil butternut squash in 1" cubes, then freeze. Good for a year. Just bake the cubes at 400 degrees for about 15 minutes. Good in soups and stews also.

Posted by: Squash Racketeer at December 12, 2025 08:45 PM (oftw2)

182 Having two cats for 17-18 years never noticed that cleaning no-no

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 08:45 PM (Ia/+0)

183 Good tip squash man

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 08:48 PM (k5cxK)

184 I don't go to Starbucks but I have a sudden urge to..
——-

Coffee is good for that, caffeine helps stimulate the bowels

Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 08:52 PM (Wu2hV)

185 172 >>I would hock the farm for some really good fish n chips right now.

Now that we have around here.
Posted by: JackStraw
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There is one seafood restaurant in town.
I left it on the table.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 08:55 PM (imZqa)

186 Remember when Arthur Treachers Fish and Chips were everywhere? I thought they were pretty good, looked them up only 3 left in the country. All in Ohio for some reason.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 08:56 PM (k5cxK)

187 Long John Silvers, worked summers between college years in mid 70's. Would love to have that exact fried fish again. We used to get to take home the leftovers if the guys cooked too much.

Posted by: skywch at December 12, 2025 08:58 PM (uqhmb)

188 Henrys was a competitor to McDonalds. Mr. Steak was a chain that wasn’t too bad.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 08:59 PM (Wu2hV)

189 >>>I never heard this -- cats get mad if you mess up the spot they just cleaned with their tongue?

Some of those had the people petting in the wrong direction. That'll piss a cat off no matter if they just cleaned it or not.

Pretty funny watching the cats get annoyed by the "dirty" touch.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2025 08:59 PM (syz1S)

190 I better turn this off
Have a good night everyone

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 09:00 PM (Ia/+0)

191 Breaking News: The Austin, Texas baristas have joined the strike against Starbucks.

Many are marching with a sign that reads "Don't cross our picket line".


Not even a "please?" F that. I'd probably go in and buy a coffee even if I didn't want one.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 12, 2025 09:00 PM (3nLb4)

192 180 I don't go to Starbucks but I have a sudden urge to...
Posted by: lin-duh

urinate?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 09:02 PM (imZqa)

193 I worked at a McDonalds in high school (just like Trump!) and they had that rule about leftover food. So if I was on closing shift and the middle aged manager was in the back room fooling around with one of the high school girls (he usually was) we’d fry up a dozen of those hot cherry pies at five minutes to 11.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 09:03 PM (k5cxK)

194 He took a job at Arby's but soon quit. He couldn't deal with the concept of artificial Cheese Whiz.

You mean there's such a thing as real, all-natural cheeze whiz? Eww.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 12, 2025 09:03 PM (3nLb4)

195 Foolishly, Long John Silvers in Tuscaloosa had a Friday night all you can eat fish and chips.

19 year old college students can eat a lot of fried fish.

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 12, 2025 09:03 PM (jc0TO)

196 Tom Servo, that was good planning would also love one of those cherry pies about now.

Posted by: skywch at December 12, 2025 09:05 PM (uqhmb)

197 Defunct chains?

Lum's

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2025 09:09 PM (XeU6L)

198 Now that I think about it, it wasn't Friday night, it was Sunday night, which is even worse for them as that was the only night that the school cafeterias were closed.

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 12, 2025 09:09 PM (jc0TO)

199 The National Consumers League is America’s oldest consumer advocacy organization and a group trusted by the left, especially, to stand up for consumers’ interests.

But according to a review of its tax filings by the Washington Examiner, it has also become part of a web of astroturf groups shilling for the corporate interests of PhRMA, the massive drugmaker trade association that operates in Washington, DC, which donated close to $1 million to it just last year.

Posted by: SMOD at December 12, 2025 09:10 PM (GITLP)

200 Tom,
Every so often out here, MacDs puts out blueberry pies. Damn this things are like luscious little packages of crack!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 09:10 PM (2WIwB)

201 "90% of everything is garbage
Posted by: n

Does that mean that 90% of the remains 10% is also garbage? And that 90% of the still remaining 1% is garbage? Et cetera…

Posted by: Insensitive Clod at December 12, 2025 09:11 PM (hA9kl)

202 >>There is one seafood restaurant in town.
I left it on the table.

Nature of the beast. I live in the middle of some of the best seafood fishing in the northeast. Seafood restaurants are everywhere.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 09:11 PM (viF8m)

203 >I would hock the farm for some really good fish n chips right now.

Now that we have around here.
Posted by: JackStraw


Best halibut 'n chips is at the golf course where I play with the geezers. Best in all of the South Puget Sound.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 09:13 PM (2WIwB)

204 That hot cherry pie was the best thing McDonalds ever sold, especially since that was when everything was still fried in lard, not the vegetable stuff they switched to later. When they were right out of the fryer the cherry filling was molten.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 09:13 PM (k5cxK)

205 I saw Tenet. It was a decent enough action flick. I thought it was supposed to be complex and difficult to understand but it seemed pretty straight for/backward. Neil was obviously max. Which is a little sad at the end. But hopefully that was him on the stretcher before.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 12, 2025 09:14 PM (3uBP9)

206
Breaking News: The Austin, Texas baristas have joined the strike against Starbucks.
Many are marching with a sign that reads "Don't cross our picket line".
Not even a "please?" F that. I'd probably go in and buy a coffee even if I didn't want one.
Posted by: Oddbob

*spits*
*crosses picket line*
*purchases cup of burnt brown piss*
*crosses picket line again*
*pours it out at their feet*

"Fuck you lefty progtard faggots, your nasty assed piss water coffee, and especially your lame assed pussy strike".

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 12, 2025 09:14 PM (QVmho)

207 I would love a blueberry pie! Well really there’s not many pies I would turn down.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 09:15 PM (k5cxK)

208 don't go to Starbucks but I have a sudden urge to...
Posted by: lin-duh

urinate?

Posted by: Braenyard
----
Yep, I have 2 stents in and I'm still urinating lots of blood. But no more kidney stones for now.

Posted by: lin-duh at December 12, 2025 09:18 PM (VCgbV)

209 >> I worked at a McDonalds in high school (just like Trump!) and they had that rule about leftover food. So if I was on closing shift and the middle aged manager was in the back room fooling around with one of the high school girls (he usually was) we’d fry up a dozen of those hot cherry pies at five minutes to 11.

I was trying to make some extra money for a few months before I moved to PR so I took an overnight job cleaning a McDonalds. Just me and one other guy and he was an ex-con, drug addict. A little twitchy but a pretty good guy. They let us eat whatever we wanted. He did, I couldn't even look at the stuff.

Turns out when you clean a McDonalds you don't want to eat McDonalds.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 09:18 PM (viF8m)

210 I worked at a McDonalds in high school (just like Trump!) and they had that rule about leftover food. So if I was on closing shift and the middle aged manager was in the back room fooling around with one of the high school girls (he usually was) we’d fry up a dozen of those hot cherry pies at five minutes to 11.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 09:03 PM (k5cxK)

Those pies were good. Back in the 80's we had a McDonalds, a white castle, and a jack in the box all within pissing distance of each other. We would go to white castle and grab some burgers, then hit the McDonalds drive though next door for fries, a strawberry shake, and a few of those apple or cherry pies, and then feast on all of it in the parking lot. Many times we would just hit McDonalds and grab the shake, fries, and cherry pies. Its the shit that happened when you cruised around all night getting roasted. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 12, 2025 09:19 PM (snZF9)

211 My grandmother used to say she only liked two kinds of pie: hot and cold.

Posted by: Wenda at December 12, 2025 09:19 PM (A65Zh)

212 177 The proper name of the game is hide-and-go-seek. Only Commies say it the other way.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2025 08:22 PM

Only British poofters say hide-and-go-seek. ie 'After we eat our spotted dick, let's play hide-and-go-seek.'

Posted by: toby928(c) at December 12, 2025 08:39 PM (jc0TO)

They eat their faggots, too.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 09:20 PM (ynpvh)

213 Fuck you lefty progtard faggots, your nasty assed piss water coffee, and especially your lame assed pussy strike".
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 12, 2025 09:14 PM (QVmho)


Now damn it Bif. Don't hold it in. Talk to us. Let it out. Tell us how you really feel.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 09:22 PM (2WIwB)

214 >>Best halibut 'n chips is at the golf course where I play with the geezers. Best in all of the South Puget Sound.

Best lobster roll in the area is at a food truck at Southeast Lighthouse on Block Island. It's really good. Views pretty good, too.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 09:23 PM (viF8m)

215 189 >>>I never heard this -- cats get mad if you mess up the spot they just cleaned with their tongue?

Some of those had the people petting in the wrong direction. That'll piss a cat off no matter if they just cleaned it or not.

Pretty funny watching the cats get annoyed by the "dirty" touch.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2025 08:59 PM (syz1S)

For some measures of "clean". I see my cats lick their a**holes and later lick their bodies...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 09:24 PM (ynpvh)

216 207 I would love a blueberry pie! Well really there’s not many pies I would turn down.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 09:15 PM (k5cxK)


Their apple pie is kinda lame, but I still buy it.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 09:25 PM (2WIwB)

217 189 >>>I never heard this -- cats get mad if you mess up the spot they just cleaned with their tongue?

Some of those had the people petting in the wrong direction. That'll piss a cat off no matter if they just cleaned it or not.

Pretty funny watching the cats get annoyed by the "dirty" touch.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 12, 2025 08:59 PM (syz1S)

The multiplier effect in reverse...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 09:25 PM (ynpvh)

218 ----
Yep, I have 2 stents in and I'm still urinating lots of blood. But no more kidney stones for now.
Posted by: lin-duh
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Wow! Had no idea. You sound positive. Is everything OK - going as expected?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 09:25 PM (OfmEX)

219 I don't usually have the chance to get involved in daytime weekday threads (Ace's), but I followed several of them today. The pace of commenting seemed really fast to me. Is it usually so, was it just the topics, or was I moving slowly? he wondered.

And it's always sad when serious or hearty discussions are seasoned with the griping gripers who gripe. Glad I don't have to be the thread police.

Posted by: mindful webworker - it's all relatives at December 12, 2025 09:25 PM (lbDMw)

220 Old hostess fried fruit pies in the waxed paper wrapper. Apple. Lemon. Cherry was ok.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 09:26 PM (zZu0s)

221 N was being himself. People were being silly enough to play to him.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 09:28 PM (zZu0s)

222 218 ----
Yep, I have 2 stents in and I'm still urinating lots of blood. But no more kidney stones for now.
Posted by: lin-duh
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Wow! Had no idea. You sound positive. Is everything OK - going as expected?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 09:25 PM (OfmEX)

Oof. Hope you feel better, Lin-duh. I've never not yet had kidney stones, but I have had some hematurias. At one point one episode was so bad that my red blood count dropped several points over a period of a week or two...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 09:29 PM (ynpvh)

223 I worked at a McDonalds in high school (just like Trump!) and they had that rule about leftover food. So if I was on closing shift and the middle aged manager was in the back room fooling around with one of the high school girls (he usually was) we’d fry up a dozen of those hot cherry pies at five minutes to 11.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 09:03 PM (k5cxK)

Back when McD's pies retained the heat of a dying star and taking the first bite required courage.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 12, 2025 09:29 PM (GvesS)

224 221 N was being himself. People were being silly enough to play to him.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 09:28 PM (zZu0s)

Did 'ee get 'is 5 quid?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 09:30 PM (ynpvh)

225 When I was in Alaska I got some great halibut. But, since then, the best halibut fish and chips was in Bandon, Oregon.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 12, 2025 09:31 PM (0aYVJ)

226
When I was in Alaska I got some great halibut. But, since then, the best halibut fish and chips was in Bandon, Oregon.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 12, 2025 09:31 PM (0aYVJ)

_________

Where can I get schrod?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 09:32 PM (tgvbd)

227 With an assist from Prime Minister of Malaysia, Anwar Ibrahim, President Trump has achieved a ceasefire between the Thais and the Cambodians.
Settling Thais that the Cambodian roadside bomb killing Thai civilians was an accident.
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It appears that Cambodians are odd man out in the region. Or as others would put it - Cambodia is asshoe.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 09:34 PM (OfmEX)

228 204 That hot cherry pie was the best thing McDonalds ever sold, especially since that was when everything was still fried in lard, not the vegetable stuff they switched to later. When they were right out of the fryer the cherry filling was molten.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 09:13 PM (k5cxK)

The cherry pie and the McDonaldland cookies. does anyone know why they stopped selling them? It seems like a lot of people remember them fondly.

Posted by: moki at December 12, 2025 09:35 PM (wLjpr)

229 Good ol' Rat in the Box.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 12, 2025 09:36 PM (LjSYW)

230 228 204 That hot cherry pie was the best thing McDonalds ever sold, especially since that was when everything was still fried in lard, not the vegetable stuff they switched to later. When they were right out of the fryer the cherry filling was molten.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 09:13 PM (k5cxK)

The cherry pie and the McDonaldland cookies. does anyone know why they stopped selling them? It seems like a lot of people remember them fondly.

Posted by: moki at December 12, 2025 09:35 PM (wLjpr)

Jolli-Bee (a Filipino fried chicken place) has mango pies that they sell; they're pretty good.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 09:36 PM (ynpvh)

231 191 Breaking News: The Austin, Texas baristas have joined the strike against Starbucks.

Many are marching with a sign that reads "Don't cross our picket line".
Posted by: Oddbob

For the press. Was in Center City Philadelphia today & saw no Starbuck's picketing on Walnut Street, South Broad, yada yada, and business was brisk.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 12, 2025 09:36 PM (NFX2v)

232 229 Good ol' Rat in the Box.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 12, 2025 09:36 PM (LjSYW)

I jokingly called it "Gag in the Bag", but that would upset my wife (she worked at J in the B as a teen)...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 09:37 PM (ynpvh)

233 Where can I get schrod?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 09:32 PM


In before Wesley Crusher admires your usage of the past pluperfect.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 09:38 PM (0sNs1)

234 sbux has been overstored for quite some time, no reason not to shutter a bunch in austin

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 09:38 PM (3GGcJ)

235 Or Crap in the Box.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 12, 2025 09:38 PM (LjSYW)

236 226
When I was in Alaska I got some great halibut. But, since then, the best halibut fish and chips was in Bandon, Oregon.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 12, 2025 09:31 PM (0aYVJ)

_________

Where can I get schrod?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 09:32 PM (tgvbd)

Gonna make some lutefisk?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 09:38 PM (ynpvh)

237
Jolli-Bee (a Filipino fried chicken place) has mango pies that they sell; they're pretty good.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 09:36 PM (ynpvh)

That sounds really good! I was in Thailand for a conference and the McDonald there fried their fries in coconut oil, and had fried pineapple pies - oh my goodness!!!!

Posted by: moki at December 12, 2025 09:39 PM (wLjpr)

238 237
Jolli-Bee (a Filipino fried chicken place) has mango pies that they sell; they're pretty good.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 09:36 PM (ynpvh)

That sounds really good! I was in Thailand for a conference and the McDonald there fried their fries in coconut oil, and had fried pineapple pies - oh my goodness!!!!

Posted by: moki at December 12, 2025 09:39 PM (wLjpr)

McD's and Jolli-Bee's pies are best when heated up...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 09:40 PM (ynpvh)

239
Now damn it Bif. Don't hold it in. Talk to us. Let it out. Tell us how you really feel.
Posted by: Diogenes

Yes, sir. I'll just go down to the motor poll and fuck with the motor warrant. You mind if I take Delta battery's BC's blazer out joy rinding? I promise to park it fucked up, with mud dripping off it at the front of the Delta battery line of vehicles where the SGM can see it when he strolls in at 1600 on Friday afternoon. I know that rat bastard did you dirty at staff call and he needs a come uppence.

#don't mess with chief's bC

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 12, 2025 09:41 PM (QVmho)

240
The cherry pie and the McDonaldland cookies. does anyone know why they stopped selling them? It seems like a lot of people remember them fondly.

Posted by: moki
----

Fast Burger, here, sells a chocolate chip cookie for $2 and a brownie for $4.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 09:41 PM (OfmEX)

241 The cherry pie and the McDonaldland cookies. does anyone know why they stopped selling them? It seems like a lot of people remember them fondly.

Posted by: moki at December 12, 2025 09:35 PM (wLjpr)

Jolli-Bee (a Filipino fried chicken place) has mango pies that they sell; they're pretty good.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 09:36 PM (ynpvh)

My Local McD's still sells cookies. It is up to the franchise.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 12, 2025 09:41 PM (mP0Kj)

242 233 Where can I get schrod?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 09:32 PM

In before Wesley Crusher admires your usage of the past pluperfect.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 09:38 PM (0sNs1)

Eh, it's no pluperfect passive progressive.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 09:41 PM (ynpvh)

243
Defunct chains?

Burger Queen

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2025 09:44 PM (pkeXY)

244 For some measures of "clean". I see my cats lick their a**holes and later lick their bodies...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 09:24 PM (ynpvh)


and they still wind up smelling like clean laundry and happiness.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 09:45 PM (rbvCR)

245 Defunct chains?





alice

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 09:46 PM (3GGcJ)

246 Defunct chains?





two

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 09:46 PM (3GGcJ)

247 I want a pineapple fried pie with some French Fries fried in coconut oil.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 09:46 PM (OfmEX)

248 bucees has a version of apple which is pretty much the old deep fried magma which mcdonalds sold

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 09:47 PM (3GGcJ)

249 and they still wind up smelling like clean laundry and happiness.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 09:45 PM (rbvCR)
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As opposed to dogs finding a pile of deer shit and rolling in it.

I'm sure they smell like angels and pumpkin spice.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 12, 2025 09:48 PM (ZOv7s)

250 Llanddwyn Island (Angelsea)

Lovely. Hope it's not AI.

Good night, all!

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 12, 2025 09:49 PM (NFX2v)

251 As opposed to dogs finding a pile of deer shit and rolling in it.

I'm sure they smell like angels and pumpkin spice.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 12, 2025 09:48 PM (ZOv7s)


My niece still has the carpet in her living room tore up to the floorboards from when her beloved dog went "up the woods out back" and ate half a dead and putrefying deer, and came home to puke it up in the living room.

She may be waiting for carpet to come on sale again, or she might just like having the memory of that dog, who has since passed.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 09:52 PM (rbvCR)

252 Paging F5, paging F5, impatience it waiting.
She's tapping her foot with hands on her hips.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 09:54 PM (OfmEX)

253 and they still wind up smelling like clean laundry and happiness.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 09:45 PM (rbvCR)

Well, I guess what we know what to rub on kindl when he passes out.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 09:54 PM (zZu0s)

254 Defunct chains?

Hot 'N Now.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 12, 2025 09:57 PM (LjSYW)

255

Jeff Konczak of Alpena, Michigan, along with Gun Lake Investments of Grand Rapids, Michigan, bought the rights to Hot 'n Now in October 2024. Through a partnership known as HNN Holdings, Konczak announced plans to open new Hot 'n Now locations in Alpena and Grand Rapids in 2025. The first such location was announced for opening in Wayland, Michigan in October 2025. Wayland, Michigan's location opened for business on October 13, 2025.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2025 10:02 PM (pkeXY)

256 Hurry up! You're missing the NOOD ONT
https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=417687

Posted by: mindful webworker - come one come all at December 12, 2025 10:02 PM (lbDMw)

Surprise! Maryland Governor and Candidate for Democrat Nominee for President Wes Moore Has Long History of Lying About His War Record and Academic Record

This is no disqualifier for a Democrat politician. Indeed, it's essentially a prerequisite.


Maryland governor Wes Moore, now considered a serious prospect for the 2028 Democratic presidential nomination, got his big break in 2006. Fresh off a one-year deployment to Afghanistan, President George W. Bush awarded Moore, then 27, a White House fellowship, a prestigious, year-long internship during which he served as a special assistant to then-secretary of state Condoleezza Rice. It put Moore on the path to ultimately becoming Maryland's governor, and he won the fellowship--in the turbulent years after 9/11--claiming to be a "foremost expert" on radical Islam thanks to his academic work at Oxford University.

"As a Rhodes Scholar, I took advantage of the opportunity and examined radical Islam in the Western Hemisphere," Moore wrote in his application to serve as a White House fellow, indicating that he had graduated from Oxford in 2003 with a Master of Letters, or MLitt, in international relations. "I completed my degree with honors and my research has led me to be touted as one of the foremost experts on the threat." The White House parroted the claim in a press release announcing the 2006 fellowship class, borrowing from Moore's application to note that his Oxford thesis, which it said was titled The Rise and Ramifications of Radical Islam in the Western Hemisphere, had "earned him praise as one of the foremost experts on the topic."

That a 27-year-old could claim to be a "foremost expert" on the Islamic threat based on a year at an American military base in Afghanistan and two years at Oxford could be excused away as an ambitious young man's puffery. But on close examination, Moore's claims of expertise and of being a serious scholar completely unravel, as do his claims, also on his White House fellowship application, that he was working toward an Oxford doctorate.

The problems start with confusion--which neither Moore's staff nor Oxford's registrars were willing or able to clear up--about when Moore completed his studies, when he received his degree, whether he submitted his thesis, and what the title of the work was.

In his White House fellowship application--which is public record--Moore wrote that he graduated from Oxford in 2003. But in the résumé attached to that application, Moore reported a different graduation date: June 2004.

Asked to reconcile the two dates, a spokesman for the governor didn't provide a photograph of Moore's degree, but rather, a "degree confirmation," generated last week by Oxford's registrar's office, indicating Moore completed his graduate studies as a full-time student and "has been awarded the degree," but has not yet been issued a formal certificate. The "degree confirmation" generated by Oxford gives another contradictory date, showing that Moore completed his full-time graduate studies in November of 2005, a full four years after he began his Oxford studies, though a master's degree typically takes two years to earn.

According to Moore, by November 2005, the month when Oxford now says Moore completed his master's studies, he was serving in the 82nd Airborne Division in Afghanistan. He also says he began working as an investment banker at Deutsche Bank in London in March 2004.

...

The story does fit a narrative, Moussa is right about that. But it is one that is likely to be problematic for Moore, just as it was for Minnesota governor Tim Walz (D.) when he stepped onto the national stage. The narrative, backed now by well-established matters of fact, is that when you scratch the surface of many of Moore's braggadocious claims, there is something off, something a little untruthful about them. Moore claims to have been a doctoral candidate after he received his master's degree, for example, but he and Oxford declined to provide the name of his academic adviser or any evidence he was enrolled as such.

...

The mystery surrounding the title of and content of Moore's thesis could be resolved with a cursory review of the document. But that, too, poses a problem for Moore. His office could not produce a copy of the document since we began requesting it in early November.

And good luck finding it at Oxford's legendary Bodleian Library, which archives all MLitt theses from the university's graduate students. A senior librarian told the Free Beacon she couldn't find "any trace" of Moore's paper, because he never submitted it.

....

The confusion about when and where Moore was when he was doing his graduate studies--along with the convenient change in the title and subject matter of his missing thesis--is part of a pattern of self-serving, self-aggrandizing, and not entirely true claims that have persistently dogged, yet heretofore not tripped up, the ambitious Democrat.

Moore has a long history of Biden-like and "Danang Dick" like embellishment of his academic record and war record.


>b?Moore claimed on his 2006 White House fellowship application, for example, to have been inducted into the Maryland College Football Hall of Fame, an organization that doesn't exist; that he received a Bronze Star for his service in Afghanistan, which he had not; and that he was born in Baltimore, which he was not.

And of course he claims to be from the 'hood but he's really the son of a comfortable middle class family.

If this Black Walter Mitty is a world-renowned expert on Islamic terrorism, why have no other terrorism experts ever heard of him?


The questions and discrepancies surrounding Moore's missing graduate thesis notwithstanding, his claim to be a "foremost expert" on the threat of radical Islam is ridiculous.

"I have never come across Gov. Moore's name in the course of my academic life," said the French political scientist Gilles Kepel, described by the New York Times as "France's most famous scholar of Islam."

Several other prominent academics in the field, including Lorenzo Vidino, the director of the Program of Extremism at George Washington University, said they've never heard of Moore in the context of any scholarly work.

"I have been studying political Islam in the West for the last 25 years and Moore's name has never popped up on my radar," Vidino told the Free Beacon. "It's a small, niche field, I'd know."

Former CIA case officer Reuel Marc Gerecht, now a scholar of Islamic terrorism at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, said he's never heard of Moore in the context of his expertise in Islamic terrorism.

"If there was an up-and-coming scholar in radical Islam, if he had written something novel, then yes, I would certainly have heard of it," Gerecht said. "This is news to me."

Posted by: Ace at 06:32 PM




Comments

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1 Stolen Valor, Stolen Curriculum Vitae

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 06:35 PM (ynpvh)

2 Two of these things are not like the others

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at December 12, 2025 06:35 PM (YlWIZ)

3 Ok one of these things

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at December 12, 2025 06:35 PM (YlWIZ)

4 Heh.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 06:35 PM (zZu0s)

5 A troll gets a first?? Really???

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 06:35 PM (77rzZ)

6
* mumble mumble * Pete Hegseth!! * mumble mumble *

Posted by: Democrat Defense at December 12, 2025 06:36 PM (krQz2)

7 If your going to lie make it a biggie.
Joseph Goebbles

Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 06:37 PM (sDNVV)

8 Rather than whining about people like this right-wingers should just accept that Dims and their supporters are like this and lean into the situation. Be caustic when dealing with the moronic Dims you have to converse with. Make sure that you know what little shits they are and what they happily vote for.

And never, never bother debating with them. Dims are like Commies. They never 'lose' debates because they just reinvent terminology.

Posted by: the lower depths at December 12, 2025 06:37 PM (UdiE9)

9 Well if watched some war movies then had nightmares about it that would qualify for some awards wouldn't it?

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 06:37 PM (Ia/+0)

10 I miss Willy Don Schaefer.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 06:37 PM (77rzZ)

11 What does Robert Spencer have to say about Moore's "expertise" on Islam?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 06:37 PM (ESVrU)

12 A troll gets a first?? Really???
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 06:35 PM

OK, which one of you Morons crossed the streams?!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 06:39 PM (jdPY0)

13 Moore's Law: Lie about your experience to get more votes.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 06:39 PM (ynpvh)

14 Well, at least Wes Moore wasn't be going around signing youngins yearbooks and trying to get in they pants at the Orange Julius. Great googly moogly!

Posted by: Alabama Hayseed Voter at December 12, 2025 06:40 PM (R/m4+)

15 For a long time I have not been a big fan of Jingle Bells.

I'll just have to remember to tell others that its racist.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:40 PM (krQz2)

16 13 A troll gets a first?? Really???
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 06:35 PM

OK, which one of you Morons crossed the streams?!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 06:39 PM (jdPY0)

Well, he ain't no 100 ft-tall StayPuff Marshmallow Man...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 06:40 PM (ynpvh)

17 If your going to lie make it a biggie.
Joseph Goebbles
Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 06:37 PM

I invented the tilde.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 06:40 PM (jdPY0)

18 What can you expect from a state that elects someone with the last name of “Alsobrooks?”

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 06:41 PM (77rzZ)

19 16 For a long time I have not been a big fan of Jingle Bells.

I'll just have to remember to tell others that its racist.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:40 PM (krQz2)

"White Christmas"...obviously racist and Islamophobic.
"Silent Night"...disses the deaf
...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 06:42 PM (ynpvh)

20 Leave Wesley Moore alone. He's a fine man who has served his country honorably. We fought together in Vietnam.

Posted by: Dick Blumenthal at December 12, 2025 06:42 PM (98kQX)

21 3 A troll gets a first?? Really???
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 06:35 PM

OK, which one of you Morons crossed the streams?!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 06:39 PM (jdPY0)

Well, he ain't no 100 ft-tall StayPuff Marshmallow Man...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 06:40 PM (ynpvh)
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Now we just need to find equally large graham crackers and a bar of chocolate...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 06:42 PM (ESVrU)

22 Moore claimed on his 2006 White House fellowship application, for example, to have been inducted into the Maryland College Football Hall of Fame, an organization that doesn't exist; that he received a Bronze Star for his service in Afghanistan, which he had not; and that he was born in Baltimore, which he was not.

No doubt that Moore is Democrat Presidential nominee material, then.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 06:42 PM (6ydKt)

23 18 If your going to lie make it a biggie.
Joseph Goebbles
Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 06:37 PM

I invented the tilde.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 06:40 PM (jdPY0)

That was my parents.

Posted by: Tilda Swinton at December 12, 2025 06:43 PM (ynpvh)

24 What can you expect from a state that elects someone with the last name of “Alsobrooks?”

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 06:41 PM (77rzZ)
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Albert Brooks >> Alsobrooks.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:43 PM (krQz2)

25 Now we just need to find equally large graham crackers and a bar of chocolate...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 06:42 PM

Assume a spherical marshmallow of radius R...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 06:43 PM (jdPY0)

26 RMBS, I knew you had a flirty side.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 06:44 PM (sDNVV)

27 Pretty fucking stupid. The precedent has already been set. Just being a Black Man qualifies him to be President. There was no need to enhance his resume. Plus he's an Authentic African American, not a pretender like the JEF.

Posted by: davidt at December 12, 2025 06:44 PM (Q+gd/)

28 Can we also note Moore walked in to a surplus and now, this short time later, a deficit?

None of this will matter. Walz looks like a frog, he could be questioned about his lies. Wes Moore is handsome. Calling him out will not be allowed.

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 06:44 PM (ZdaMQ)

29 RMBS, I knew you had a flirty side.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 06:44 PM

{{{Ben Had}}}

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 06:44 PM (jdPY0)

30 Look, everybody that I know does this, ok?

Posted by: Wes moore at December 12, 2025 06:45 PM (XeU6L)

31 25 Ace
Wes Moore was elected with 6

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 12, 2025 06:43 PM (0Ph0e)


Six fingers?
Six beers?
Six wives?
Six Medal of Honors?
Six Degrees in International Relations?
Six inches?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 06:45 PM (6ydKt)

32 Six inches?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 06:45 PM (6ydKt)
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That's what I was thinking was ASS's criteria.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:45 PM (krQz2)

33 Asked to reconcile the two dates, a spokesman for the governor didn't provide a photograph of Moore's degree, but rather, a "degree confirmation," gene
------

Echoes of Barky's birth certificate, and SS registration.

Posted by: Wes moore at December 12, 2025 06:46 PM (XeU6L)

34 osted by: Alabama Hayseed Voter at December 12, 2025 06:40 PM (R/m4+)

I think I am offended by this!

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 06:46 PM (ZdaMQ)

35 35 Six inches?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 06:45 PM (6ydKt)
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That's what I was thinking was ASS's criteria.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:45 PM (krQz2)

Well, honestly, six fingers might apply as well...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 06:47 PM (ynpvh)

36 I invented the tilde.

Pfft. I have TWO inventions to my name.
— Guy who invented the diaeresis AND the umlaut

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 06:47 PM (77rzZ)

37 Man, today's posts have really been a cavalcade of gloom, betrayal, corruption and general awfulness. I don't know whether to turn my face to the wall, or grab a rifle.

Probably the latter. Might as well; Pacos been fightin' on the losin' side since the Civil War.

Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 06:47 PM (2L+MU)

38 Assume a spherical marshmallow of radius R...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 06:43 PM


May we assume a STP density of 0.461 kg/m^^3?

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at December 12, 2025 06:47 PM (0sNs1)

39 I was born a poor, black child.
-Gavin Newsom

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2025 06:48 PM (9ipOP)

40 Pfft. I have TWO inventions to my name.
— Guy who invented the diaeresis AND the umlaut
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 06:47 PM

I couldn't have gone with the question mark. We'd be up to our eyes in Dr. Evil's Father socks.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 06:48 PM (jdPY0)

41 Well, honestly, six fingers might apply as well...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 06:47 PM (ynpvh
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Of Scotch?!

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:49 PM (krQz2)

42
"We should move on."

Delivered in an almost-sad way, as if whoever is still challenging him on these long-settled issues of years gone by is a pathetic fanatic who should get a nice injection of thorazine.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 06:49 PM (1N/bM)

43 I couldn't have gone with the question mark. We'd be up to our eyes in Dr. Evil's Father socks.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 06:48 PM (jdPY0)
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You have to ask yourself what would we do without the question mark

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:49 PM (krQz2)

44 Pacos been fightin' on the losin' side since the Civil War.
Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 06:47 PM


It's time to change that, and realize that Big Penguin is only using you.

Depart the misguided and mephitic Spheniscidae. For once, fight for Truth, Justice, and the American Way.

Come to the light side. We have brisket and Southern biscuits!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 06:51 PM (0sNs1)

45 I'm really starting to wonder why Michigan head coaches seem to get arrested as much as Illinois governors.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 06:51 PM (6ydKt)

46 Oxford isn't all that prestigious anymore...

Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2025 06:51 PM (YwEeS)

47 So the WH, or at least Bush's WH, does not bother to verify any details when you apply for a fellowship?

Did they at least have DO4? paperwork, did Moore even actually serve in Afghanistan or was he still at Oxford?

Posted by: PaleRider at December 12, 2025 06:51 PM (hhkIi)

48 How about the interrobang, huh? Who takes credit for THAT monstrosity?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 06:51 PM (77rzZ)

49 "Wes moore won rafiky against the GOP candidate
Moore won with 65% of the vote. Dems are only 50% of the vote
Independents voted for him
Most GOP considered him a trump fanatic'
====

Aliassmithsmith Johnson is right!
/that is some authentic frontier gibberish right there

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2025 06:52 PM (9ipOP)

50 He is a democrat of course he is lying. It's their nature.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 12, 2025 06:52 PM (0N4FZ)

51 Moore's Thesis went straight to a burn pit in Afghanistan, tended by Beau Biden, who contracted serial leprosy, which led to his demise, forcing his retard brother Hunter to become the family bagman.

Posted by: Dem Follies at December 12, 2025 06:52 PM (oftw2)

52
Stolen Valor, Stolen Curriculum Vitae
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

===========

Really raises the bar for Dem politicians. Next guy's going to have to do a quadruple toe-loop.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 06:52 PM (1N/bM)

53 Looks like a big goof.
https://is.gd/4H9qcM

Posted by: No Name Today at December 12, 2025 06:53 PM (8mulE)

54 Oxford isn't all that prestigious anymore...
Posted by: steevy
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I still repect their comma.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2025 06:53 PM (XeU6L)

55 Hey, it worked for Blumenthal.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 06:55 PM (sDNVV)

56 56 Looks like a big goof.
https://is.gd/4H9qcM

Posted by: No Name Today at December 12, 2025 06:53 PM (8mulE)

Lipstick?

Posted by: davidt at December 12, 2025 06:55 PM (Q+gd/)

57 47 Come to the light side. We have brisket and Southern biscuits! - Duncanthrax

Pshaw! I know for a fact it's just Bisquick! And I bet your green beans are crunchy, like in them ooh-la-la places CBD frequents.

Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 06:56 PM (2L+MU)

58 Moore's Thesis went straight to a burn pit in Afghanistan, tended by Beau Biden, who contracted serial leprosy, which led to his demise, forcing his retard brother Hunter to become the family bagman.

Posted by: Dem Follies at December 12, 2025 06:52 PM (oftw2)
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While I was reading your post, Beau Biden died again.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:58 PM (krQz2)

59 "Pay no attention to the (hundreds of) men behind the curtain. I AM the Great and Powerful OZ".

Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2025 06:58 PM (vbXSk)

60 His supporters do not feel like they had none pulled over on them.

Not one of them said "oh he's a Rhodes Scholar that is why I am voting for him."

They wanted to hear how much he would lie to Republicans. And he's not going to retract or apologize.

Posted by: blaster at December 12, 2025 06:58 PM (RoO7G)

61
OMG! I just about died laughing.
Link goes to 9gag. Very vietnam.

https://9gag.com/gag/amoOZGj

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 12, 2025 06:58 PM (QVmho)

62 'If this Black Walter Mitty is a world-renowned expert on Islamic terrorism, why have no other terrorism experts ever heard of him?'

The answer's obvious: The other terrorism experts are the frauds.

I can't believe Ace is stooping to a racist attack on a Person of Color just because he's a DEI clown who's incompetent and lies all the time.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 12, 2025 06:58 PM (fd80v)

63 Pshaw! I know for a fact it's just Bisquick! And I bet your green beans are crunchy, like in them ooh-la-la places CBD frequents.

Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 06:56 PM (2L+MU)
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Where CBD was radicalized against syrup!!

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:58 PM (krQz2)

64 Paco, Duncanthrax uses White Lily flour exclusively.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 06:59 PM (sDNVV)

65
Wes Moore is handsome. Calling him out will not be allowed.
Posted by: Piper

===============

DEIQ

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 06:59 PM (1N/bM)

66 Pshaw! I know for a fact it's just Bisquick!
Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 06:56 PM


No, we have true Southern biscuits. The ones that use the #1 ingredient required for true, fluffy Southern biscuits.

White Lily flour. Made from winter wheat. Accept no substitutes, unless you live in New York City, where picante sauce is not properly appreciated.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 07:00 PM (0sNs1)

67 Pshaw! I know for a fact it's just Bisquick! And I bet your green beans are crunchy, like in them ooh-la-la places CBD frequents.
Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 06:56 PM (2L+MU)


Just Bisquick?

And I suppose your mother was just a mother.

Posted by: blaster at December 12, 2025 07:00 PM (RoO7G)

68 Wes Moore is the Claudine Gay of Joe Bidens of Tim Walzes of "Danang" Dick Blumenthals of John F'ing Kerrys of Barack Obamas of Kamala Harrises of Robert MacDonalds of John Walshes of Bette Midlers.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 07:00 PM (25a1J)

69
I have a Ph.D in Green Beret SEAL Ranger Recon. Got the Distinguished Service Cross for it too!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 07:00 PM (tgvbd)

70
Pshaw! I know for a fact it's just Bisquick! And I bet your green beans are crunchy, like in them ooh-la-la places CBD frequents.
Posted by: Paco

Ooooo. Oooooo. Bisquick!

Smash has a sausage, shreeded cheese, and bisquick recipe dhe wants to try. Baked sausage balls. I'm already calling it scheutty balls.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 12, 2025 07:01 PM (QVmho)

71 Evening.

Just watched TJM's latest video.

First, I'm really enjoying these videos. Like when I read his blog, I feel smarter afterwards.

Also, that SUIT!

But TJM needs a sign off. For example, Jerome Weiselberry waves and does a squeaky high pitched "bye!" At the end of her reviews. TJM needs something like that, but manlier.

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 07:01 PM (1Yy3c)

72
Isn't Bisquick the capital of North Dakota?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 07:02 PM (tgvbd)

73 Paco, Duncanthrax uses White Lily flour exclusively.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 06:59 PM


There is iron in Ben Had's words of life for all Morons and true Americans to see.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 07:02 PM (0sNs1)

74 Also I have blood plasma today and it came out looking like super cloudy coconut water.

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 07:02 PM (1Yy3c)

75 Where CBD was radicalized against syrup!! - Axeman

Really? Dang! Time to start insisting on loyalty oaths around here.

Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 07:02 PM (2L+MU)

76 "Here lies Wes Moore..."

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 12, 2025 07:02 PM (mlg/3)

77 Because of systemic racism and a blackface scene in a Bing Crosby movie from 85 years ago, Wes Moore needed to lie to get ahead.

Posted by: Understandable at December 12, 2025 07:02 PM (oftw2)

78
Bif,

The sausage balls are awesome. I've made them for years.

Posted by: fourseasons at December 12, 2025 07:03 PM (3ek7K)

79 White Lily flour. Made from winter wheat. Accept no substitutes, unless you live in New York City, where picante sauce is not properly appreciated.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 07:00 PM (0sNs1)


The King Biscuit Flour Hour has entered the chat.

Posted by: blaster at December 12, 2025 07:03 PM (RoO7G)

80 Balls?

Posted by: Schweady at December 12, 2025 07:03 PM (Q+gd/)

81 But TJM needs a sign off. For example, Jerome Weiselberry waves and does a squeaky high pitched "bye!" At the end of her reviews. TJM needs something like that, but manlier.
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 07:01 PM


So, jazz hands and/or uptwinkles are out?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 07:03 PM (0sNs1)

82
Where CBD was radicalized against syrup!!
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:58 PM (krQz2)

__________

He was molested by Mrs. Butterworth.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 07:03 PM (tgvbd)

83 This is no disqualifier for a Democrat politician.

Imagine how he'd have no chance at all if he'd said that he fantasized about murdering the wife -- and their children in her arms -- of his political opponent.

Wait, wut?

Indeed, it's essentially a prerequisite.

Both men are now on the VP short-list for the Dem nomination in 2028 ... resume enhancers!

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 07:03 PM (25a1J)

84 Ask your doctor if Rafiky is righty for youy.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 12, 2025 07:04 PM (mlg/3)

85 So I had my transcripts requested about 10 or so years after I left college.

How do all of these Obamaesque people get away with no transcripts?

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 12, 2025 07:04 PM (gbOdA)

86 Hadrian, I laughed way to hard at that comment

Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 07:04 PM (sDNVV)

87 And of course he claims to be from the 'hood but he's really the son of a comfortable middle class family.

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Wes Moore is the Jasmine Ratchet of Kamala Harrises?

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 07:05 PM (25a1J)

88 And never, never bother debating with them. Dims are like Commies. They never 'lose' debates because they just reinvent terminology.
Posted by: the lower depths
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This is absolutely true. My favorites hits of Dem debate style is whataboutism, goal post shifting, and motte and Bailey among others.

When all else fails, pull the emergency cord for to use accusations of racism, sexism, ableism, or some other worthless rhetorical slur designed to insult and make the opposing debater into a inhuman monster.

Aristotle taught you well in argumentation lower depths.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 07:05 PM (WDjG6)

89 I am pretty sure that the Dems are going to impeach Trump on a bi-weekly schedule come 2027.

Posted by: blaster at December 12, 2025 07:05 PM (RoO7G)

90 OMG! I just about died laughing.
Link goes to 9gag. Very vietnam.

https://9gag.com/gag/amoOZGj
Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 12, 2025 06:58 PM (QVmho)

Holy hell, I'm dying here! LOL!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 12, 2025 07:05 PM (0aYVJ)

91 Transcripts are overrated. *Where* your transcripts are from is what's important!

Posted by: David Hogg, Harvard graduate at December 12, 2025 07:05 PM (0sNs1)

92 Well, if Ben Had says so, I reckon I'll have to take her word. But you'll never seduce me to the anti-Penguin side, Duncanthrax, no matter how fine a table you set.

Not even if you serve apple pie. I mean, if you have apple pie. You, er, don't, do you?

Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 07:06 PM (2L+MU)

93 I saw Black Walter Mitty open for The Dream Syndicate at Rainbow Music Hall in '84.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 07:07 PM (25a1J)

94 Democrats: lies, lies, and Moore lies.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 07:08 PM (npFr7)

95 Not even if you serve apple pie. I mean, if you have apple pie. You, er, don't, do you?
Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 07:06 PM


Are you a straight-up apple pie man, or do you prefer a nice slice of sharp cheddar, or a scoop of Blue Bell vanilla to accompany?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 07:08 PM (0sNs1)

96 Some politician is making outrageous claims? Hey, I invented the Internet while having the bestselling novel "Love Story" written about me!

Posted by: Al Gore at December 12, 2025 07:08 PM (CSQvy)

97 88 So I had my transcripts requested about 10 or so years after I left college.

How do all of these Obamaesque people get away with no transcripts?
Posted by: rhennigantx

Because they are sociopathic liars even among themselves as everything is struggle to elevate their perceived group status from teh common people.

I have copies of my thesis on disk, printed copy, one in my department's library and my dissertation is available likewise except the dissertation is stowed in the library and on abstract databases.

Have personal and electronic copies of those as well. I even have old typed papers from college if they were important to me.

So, the answer is they lie so frequently that the heuristic is just figure the Democrat (like their auxiliary Main Stream Media) is lying when their lips move.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 07:08 PM (WDjG6)

98 Trump releases surprise Christmas Album. Babylon Bee:

https://tinyurl.com/mvrynywt

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 07:08 PM (rZCVI)

99 It also appear he has 3 or 4 names to his fake Dissertation.

About 1998 my wife wrote her thesis and we spent about $2000 to publish 4 or 6 copies to make it legal.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 12, 2025 07:08 PM (gbOdA)

100 72
I have a Ph.D in Green Beret SEAL Ranger Recon. Got the Distinguished Service Cross for it too!
Posted by: Hadrian
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Hadrian, we hardly know ye!!!

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 07:10 PM (WDjG6)

101 Are you a straight-up apple pie man, or do you prefer a nice slice of sharp cheddar, or a scoop of Blue Bell vanilla to accompany?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 07:08 PM (0sNs1)


psst - the Blue Bell reference is a hint.

Posted by: blaster at December 12, 2025 07:10 PM (RoO7G)

102 Lol. Clown judge Bonerburger had his tantrum hearing stayed.

2 R judge to 1.

But I'm sure they will rule for him after briefing

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 07:11 PM (G6PFE)

103 I am pretty sure that the Dems are going to impeach Trump on a bi-weekly schedule come 2027
———-

The predicate here, is that Americans will just continue to put up with ever more and increasing levels of outrageous bullshit in perpetuity.

Is that a safe bet? Maybe. May be “Not”.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 07:11 PM (SH3As)

104 85
Where CBD was radicalized against syrup!!
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:58 PM (krQz2)

__________

He was molested by Mrs. Butterworth.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 07:03 PM (tgvbd)

Damn it, you guys! LOL!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 07:11 PM (ynpvh)

105 I can vouch for Wes Moore. He and I were in the Parachute Ski Marines together. We saved each others' lives, twice. Well, I'll never forget that time, over Macho Grande, which is seared into my memory...

Posted by: John Kerry at December 12, 2025 07:12 PM (CSQvy)

106 I nailed my 95 Feces to the Parish door.

Posted by: Martin "Les" Luther Moore at December 12, 2025 07:12 PM (oftw2)

107 Aliassmithsmith Johnson is right!
/that is some authentic frontier gibberish right there
Posted by: San Franpsycho
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Hard for him to type with his mouth full and occupied.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 07:12 PM (WDjG6)

108 It's time to change that, and realize that Big Penguin is only using you.

Depart the misguided and mephitic Spheniscidae. For once, fight for Truth, Justice, and the American Way.

Come to the light side. We have brisket and Southern biscuits!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 06:51 PM (0sNs1)

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Do Adélie Penguins eat Andouille Sausage -- and if so, does that make them cannibals?

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 07:12 PM (25a1J)

109 For what it's worth, I'm sitting on a sold out theater waiting for the start of the live Unsubscribe Podcast. In MA. There may be hope.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 07:13 PM (jdPY0)

110 106 I nailed my 95 Feces to the Parish door.

Posted by: Martin "Les" Luther Moore at December 12, 2025 07:12 PM (oftw2)

Woulda been aliassmith if he thought of it first...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 07:13 PM (ynpvh)

111 The predicate here, is that Americans will just continue to put up with ever more and increasing levels of outrageous bullshit in perpetuity.

Is that a safe bet? Maybe. May be “Not”.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 07:11 PM (SH3As)


I live in Virginia and I can almost see Maryland from here.

I am astonished at the appetite for bullshit.

Posted by: blaster at December 12, 2025 07:14 PM (RoO7G)

112 Oxford isn't all that prestigious anymore...
Posted by: steevy at December 12, 2025 06:51 PM (YwEeS)

I'm sure they hand out mercy degrees to any student that International Globohomo asks them to favor.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 07:14 PM (npFr7)

113 "In", damn it! FU, autocucumber.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 07:14 PM (jdPY0)

114 But TJM needs a sign off. For example, Jerome Weiselberry waves and does a squeaky high pitched "bye!" At the end of her reviews. TJM needs something like that, but manlier.
Posted by: Robert
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Mooning the audience? Juggling chainsaws? Sword swallowing? or maybe just blowing fire at the camera?

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 07:14 PM (WDjG6)

115 May we assume a STP density of 0.461 kg/m^^3?
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at December 12, 2025 06:47 PM (0sNs1)

This seems heavy for a marshmallow

Fuck. Now I have to look it up.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 07:14 PM (zZu0s)

116 98 Are you a straight-up apple pie man, or do you prefer a nice slice of sharp cheddar, or a scoop of Blue Bell vanilla to accompany? - Duncanthrax

I'm a purist. Why, if I had ever put cheese on a piece of apple pie, the family would have accused me of puttin' on airs. And no ice cream; as good as that sounds, it's like jammin' a cork in your aorta.

Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 07:15 PM (2L+MU)

117
Dear heavens, my dissertation was a tribute to how little you can accomplish and I still get through. And this guy had to make it up out of the whole cloth?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 07:15 PM (tgvbd)

118 Perhaps TJM can use the Ferris Bueller real ending. Cut to him with a bathroom wandering into his movie room when he notices the camera is still on and he chastises the audience for still watching.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 07:16 PM (WDjG6)

119 He was molested by Mrs. Butterworth.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 07:03 PM (tgvbd)


You people are weird!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 12, 2025 07:16 PM (n9ltV)

120 Nood

Posted by: fd at December 12, 2025 07:16 PM (vFG9F)

121 0.25 to 0.7 grams per cubic centimeter

Per Bings copilot.

I'd have to get out the pad and paper to do the conversion factor to kg/cubic meter

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 07:16 PM (zZu0s)

122 I nailed my 95 Feces to the Parish door.

Posted by: Martin "Les" Luther Moore at December 12, 2025 07:12 PM (oftw2)

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Didn't you play running back at Syracuse University ahead of Jim Brown (who won the Heisman that year) and against Joe Biden when he was playing flanker back ahead of Roger Staubach (who later won the Heisman as a quarterback)?

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 07:17 PM (25a1J)

123 117
Dear heavens, my dissertation was a tribute to how little you can accomplish and I still get through. And this guy had to make it up out of the whole cloth?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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Sort of like no one remembers Obama at Columbia, few at Occidental, and he did nothing while 'president' of Harvard Law Review.

Constitutional scholar, my ass.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 07:18 PM (WDjG6)

124 How do all of these Obamaesque people get away with no transcripts?
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 12, 2025 07:04 PM (gbOdA)

Well, you see, when my mom, a whore, met my dad, a drunken philanderer and ne'er-do-well, well, I was born. I pretended to be this when I was that and that when I was this. No need to look to closely at my birth certificate either. Hope and change baby! Hope and change! Let me be clear...you can keep your doctor.

Posted by: Barack Obama, Let Me Be Clear at December 12, 2025 07:18 PM (R/m4+)

125
When all else fails, pull the emergency cord for to use accusations of racism, sexism, ableism, or some other worthless rhetorical slur designed to insult and make the opposing debater into a inhuman monster.

"Debate" American Style: Our Top Orators in Action

https://youtu.be/fmO-ziHU_D8

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2025 07:19 PM (pkeXY)

126 Are you a straight-up apple pie man, or do you prefer a nice slice of sharp cheddar, or a scoop of Blue Bell vanilla to accompany?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 07:08 PM (0sNs1)


I have read about people...deeply disturbed people...who put cheddar on their apple pie.

But I prefer to believe in the innate goodness of people, and choose to think that all people understand the rightness of vanilla ice cream on apple pie.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 12, 2025 07:19 PM (n9ltV)

127 So this mook is another Obamawannabe

got it

Maryland is like Illinois with its governors
they go to jail, get indicted, what have you

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 07:19 PM (ZxPkt)

128 115 May we assume a STP density of 0.461 kg/m^^3?
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at December 12, 2025 06:47 PM (0sNs1)

This seems heavy for a marshmallow

Fuck. Now I have to look it up.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 07:14 PM (zZu0s)

Depends on whose number you use for density.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 07:20 PM (ynpvh)

129 Are you a straight-up apple pie man, or do you prefer a nice slice of sharp cheddar, or a scoop of Blue Bell vanilla to accompany?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 07:08 PM (0sNs1)

Slice of sharp Cheddar on top, then 30 seconds in the nuker to warm the pie, and melt the cheese. Perfection!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 07:20 PM (npFr7)

130 Wes Moore isn't in any sports Hall of Fame that I could find. The left knows half or more of what they say to each other isn't true. But they're on the same team and Bill Clinton paved the way for the truth and morality to have no real meaning so long as we're all wearing the same uniform.

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 07:20 PM (TN0g+)

131 61
'
https://9gag.com/gag/amoOZGj'

That's an impressive stream of inappropriate content.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 12, 2025 07:21 PM (fd80v)

132 May we assume a STP density of 0.461 kg/m^^3?
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at December 12, 2025 06:47 PM (0sNs1)

This seems heavy for a marshmallow

Fuck. Now I have to look it up.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 07:14 PM (zZu0s)

Depends on whose number you use for density.
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Perhaps the marshmallows could be explained by migration?

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 07:21 PM (TN0g+)

133 I'd have to get out the pad and paper to do the conversion factor to kg/cubic meter

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 07:16 PM (zZu0s)


It should be x 10^6.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 12, 2025 07:21 PM (n9ltV)

134 74
'Also I have blood plasma today and it came out looking like super cloudy coconut water.'

That means you're probably going to die.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 12, 2025 07:25 PM (fd80v)

135 This, too, is the story of Barack Obama.

Except the military part, of course. Nobody would buy that one.

Posted by: t-bird at December 12, 2025 07:38 PM (ittVa)

136 82
Where CBD was radicalized against syrup!!
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:58 PM (krQz2)

__________

He was molested by Mrs. Butterworth.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 07:03 PM (tgvbd)

In a Log Cabin with Aunt Jemima filming it.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 07:38 PM (6ydKt)

137 Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 07:01 PM (1Yy3c)

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First it was Big Penguin who infiltrated the blog (I suspect Feds) and now Big Walrus (Feds on "AI").

Where will it end, with Big Octopi (Hydra by any other name) ...

This explains the origins of the "Octopi Wall Street" movement.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 07:42 PM (25a1J)

138 So you're telling me, ....

Wes is Moore?

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 07:53 PM (krQz2)

139 Maybe we need some sort of legislation that says if any part of a politician's biography is cooked up/inflated, he/she is immediately ejected from office, and barred from further public office.

Posted by: Occasional Commenter at December 12, 2025 08:04 PM (MV++E)

140 Mr Moore looks like he might be a little light in the loafers NTTAWWT

Posted by: kelly at December 13, 2025 12:24 AM (GxGGi)

The Week in Woke

genderstudiesprovescapitalismisafailure.jpg

candacestop.jpg


Joy Reid retweeted -- "amplified," as they say -- a race-grifter claiming "Jingle Bells" is, get this, racist.

Remember, you are the ones engaging in "racial grievance" when you say you're sick to death of being endlessly scapegoated for black failure.


Joy Reid is spending December amplifying a claim that "Jingle Bells" is racist, reposting a video to her 1.3 million followers that tries -- and fails -- to turn one of America's most familiar Christmas songs into a racial flashpoint. The clip she chose to boost offers no proof, only speculation and academic flair that collapse the moment you examine the song's history or even read the lyrics.

The video leans on the fact that composer James Lord Pierpont served in the Confederacy and had written minstrel tunes earlier in his life. But none of that makes "Jingle Bells" itself racist, and the video never demonstrates otherwise. Background isn't evidence, and Reid's repost doesn't provide any. It also highlights a Boston plaque claiming Pierpont wrote the song "to make fun of black people," and cites an assertion that its first public performance -- then titled "The One Horse Open Sleigh" -- may have taken place in blackface in 1857. Even if that performance involved blackface, that reflects the entertainers, not the content of the song.

And the content is indisputable. The original lyrics -- widely available -- aren't about race, caricature, or anything remotely tied to minstrelsy. They're about sleigh rides, winter spills, young flirtation, and the carefree joy of youth.

A new report finds that injecting people with superphysiological levels of artificial hormones increases their all-cause mortality.

Wow, I did not see that coming. I mean, yes I knew this would kill people, I just didn't think that anyone in "The Science (TM)" would dare to do any actual science about trans mutilations.


Biology in Medicine
@biologyinmed

It is not only the HHS report warning of the irreversible long term risks of Oestrogen used as a cross sex hormone.. A new study reports:

Known risks
- cardiovascular disease
-infertility
-pulmonary embolism
-stroke
Emerging 'warning signals' of increased risk
-early mortality
- pancreatitis
-testicular, thyroid and breast cancer
-autoimmune disease

Prescribing of cross sex hormones in children and young adults must be stopped.


The paper is here.

Remember that alleged study that proves we need DEI? The one cited by Justice Ketangi D-EI when arguing for DEI forever?

The study claimed that white doctors kill black babies.

That turns out to be bunk -- fake science -- but what is even more interesting is that the same study found that the death rates of white babies increased when attended by black doctors. In other words, following the logic of the "study" -- we need black doctors for black patients, but also, white patients must also not have black doctors. White patients need white doctors.

You might be thinking, Wow, I never heard anyone cite that part of the study.

That's because the "scientists" who did this study omitted that part of their findings from their published paper, because they didn't want to "undermine" the "narrative" they were trying to establish.


The August 2020 study in the prestigious Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS) concluded that the gap in mortality rates between black newborns and white newborns declines by 58% if the black newborns are under the care of black physicians. A possible driver of the phenomenon could include a "spontaneous bias" by white physicians toward the babies, the researchers wrote.

The paper's most high-profile booster was Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, who cited it as evidence for the benefits of affirmative action in her dissent in the 2023 Supreme Court ruling Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard, which found that universities that considered the race of college applicants had violated the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.

"For high-risk Black newborns, having a Black physician is tantamount to a miracle drug: it more than doubles the likelihood that the baby will live," reads an amicus brief filed by the Association of American Medical Colleges. "Yet due to the enduring and significant underrepresentation of minorities in the health professions, many minority patients will not receive care from a racially diverse team or from providers who were trained in a diverse environment."


CNN
@CNN

Black newborn babies in the US are more likely to survive childbirth if they are cared for by Black doctors, but three times more likely to die when looked after by White doctors, a study finds. https://cnn.it/347NlE1

Aug 18, 2020

But the study's methods have been called into question. A September 2024 replication effort concluded that the original study authors did not statistically control for very low birth weight newborns at the highest risk of dying. Applying that control zeroed out any statistically significant effect of racial concordance on infant mortality.

Now, evidence has emerged that the paper's lead author buried information in order to tell a tidier story than the one his methods and data originally illustrated.

A key data point was edited out of the body of the paper, apparently because it muddled the downstream policy implications of the study, according to documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act by the nonprofit Do No Harm, which opposes identity politics in medical research and clinical practice.

The study originally asserted that white babies died less frequently with white doctors.

"White newborns experience 80 deaths per 100,000 births more with a black physician than a white physician, implying a 22% fatality reduction from racial concordance," an unpublished draft reads.

But the study's lead author Brad N. Greenwood wrote in the margin: "I'd rather not focus on this. If we're telling the story from the perspective of saving black infants this undermines the narrative."

"That's not how scientists speak," Ian Kingsbury, director of research at Do No Harm, told the Daily Caller News Foundation. "It's not a smoking gun, but it's certainly suggestive they were pushing one narrative or another."

The data point was axed.

"Concordance appears to bring little benefit for White newborns," the paper reads.
While omitted in the paper's body, the data point can be found in the appendix as part of a logistic model. Unlike the linear regression highlighted in the paper, a logistic model is more appropriate for binary questions like whether a newborn survives or dies, according to Ted Frank, a senior attorney with the Hamilton Lincoln Law Institute, which filed an amicus brief in favor of Students for Fair Admissions.


Greenwood, the Maximus Corporate Partner Professor of Business at George Mason University, wrote another note to his coauthors that may indicate he had a predetermined desired conclusion, a strong correlation between physician race and clinical outcomes, the FOIA documents suggest.

...

The study has been cited 507 times in the scientific literature. But the study has made a big impact outside of academia too.

Published in August 2020 amid the Black Lives Matter protests, the study has generated more public discussion in the laypress and on social media than 99% of scientific studies published in the last five years, according to Altmetric. The study has received coverage in 340 outlets including CNN, USA Today, and the Washington Post.

Hank Johnson, the forefather of the field of Buoyant Tectonic Plate Theory -- that Guam may "tip over" if too many people immigrate there --- declares that America is, just as radical Iranian hate-mullahs say, "the Great Satan."

Guys, if we end DEI then it will be white men who suffer the most.

The Washington Post says so.

The horror:

Stacked rapper Nicky Minaj is ripping Newsom:

nickyminajnewsom.jpg


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1 1st

Posted by: GF at December 12, 2025 05:29 PM (iVUs+)

2 SPONGE is 1st, no matter what

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 05:32 PM (xcxpd)

3 That is a new low in stupidity for Joy Reid- "Jingle Bells is racist" . Nobody before she brought it up knew who wrote Jingle Bells. I guess she thinks "I'm dreaming of a white Christmas " is racist as well. You could do a whole thread on Christmas songs which mention snow being racist.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 05:32 PM (PFs9e)

4 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at December 12, 2025 05:34 PM (5IH8V)

5 Jingle Bells is the new Baby It's Cold Outside.

Just another stupid thing for the leftists to hate on.

So why do we keep losing to these retards?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 12, 2025 05:34 PM (0aYVJ)

6
Newscum attacked Elon over his "trans daughter" as well, telling Elon his "daughter" hates him. Elon, responded something like he has several actual daughters who love him, but has a mentally ill son, warped by the mind virus you ghouls push...

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 12, 2025 05:34 PM (w6EFb)

7 "Let it snow let it snow, let it snow " is all about removing people of color in society. Frosty the snowman is advocating for slavery. LOL

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 05:35 PM (PFs9e)

8 Joy Reid retweeted -- "amplified," as they say -- a race-grifter claiming "Jingle Bells" is, get this, racist.
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Well, it is about snow. And until recently, only wypipo really had snow.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:35 PM (krQz2)

9 Jingle Bells,
Joy Reid smells...


(I'll see myself out)

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 05:36 PM (Dv3i1)

10 I didn't quite catch the replacement word, but it's for sure that folks are no longer dressing up like Eskimos.

Posted by: Oglebay at December 12, 2025 05:36 PM (2ap+5)

11 You might be thinking, Wow, I never heard anyone cite that part of the study.

That's because the "scientists" who did this study omitted that part of their findings from their published paper, because they didn't want to "undermine" the "narrative" they were trying to establish.
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But hey guys--Trust the science!

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 05:36 PM (TN0g+)

12 Ah, I see we have robo ace now.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 05:36 PM (h4uy9)

13 Joy Reid is a retarded racist herself.

They should pave a road over her.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 12, 2025 05:36 PM (NwnyJ)

14 Why can't we win against the mentally ill & stupid people?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2025 05:37 PM (u82oZ)

15 Joy Reid needs to take a tour of Hamas infested Gaza.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2025 05:37 PM (u82oZ)

16 5 Jingle Bells is the new Baby It's Cold Outside.

Just another stupid thing for the leftists to hate on.

So why do we keep losing to these retards?
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 12, 2025 05:34 PM (0aYVJ)

They control the media. And they fight.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 05:37 PM (xcxpd)

17 NEWSOM: “I want to see trans kids…"
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I bet you do, Gavin. Why don't you show us your internet search history?

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 05:37 PM (TN0g+)

18 So riding in a horse sleigh is racist
?

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 05:38 PM (Ia/+0)

19 Well, Jingle Bells talks about snow, and snow is white. Any thing white is racist.

Hence: Jingle Bells is most definitely racist.

Posted by: Ralph at December 12, 2025 05:38 PM (8WZD4)

20 Nobody is--not even albinos are--"snow white".

Yes, it was stupid of Europeans to ever start the term "white".

Jesus is WS, because his job is to wash you “white as snow[!!!]”[/u[

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:38 PM (krQz2)

21 Jeez, all of this is pretty fucked up.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 05:39 PM (h4uy9)

22 the irreversible long term risks of Oestrogen used as a cross sex hormone.. A new study reports:

Seems you could have quite a career as an academic going on the internet and hearing all these "fringe" medical theories we've been discussing forever.

Posted by: t-bird at December 12, 2025 05:39 PM (ittVa)

23 Why can't we win against the mentally ill & stupid people?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2025 05:37 PM (u82oZ)
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Maybe we're outnumbered by them and the Apathetic.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:40 PM (krQz2)

24 A new report finds that injecting people with superphysiological levels of artificial hormones increases their all-cause mortality.
_______
While I know this is a harsh thing to say about anyone, I must assume there are some lawyers among the horde. What I want to know is where are the tort actions for this crap? It's got to be a gold mine, so how come the shysters - excuse me, lawyers - aren't swarming like sharks around a wounded swimmer?

I keep waiting.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 12, 2025 05:41 PM (s0JqF)

25 Look at this, a new thread.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 12, 2025 05:41 PM (q2Q7i)

26 joy Reid next:

"White Christmas is racist. Did you know Bing Crosby was involved with the KKK when he wrote that song?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 05:41 PM (PFs9e)

27 Paul's mistake was "There will come a time" part of his warning that "Men will not listen to reason."

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:41 PM (krQz2)

28 I never rode in a horse sleigh, a Troika ride would be awesome

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 05:42 PM (Ia/+0)

29 Wow.

The insanity is strong in those folks.

Or demonic possession. Never discount it my friends.

Whenever an exorcist is called in, there must be a comprehensive psychological evaluation. But when the patient is levitating four feet above the bed, send the doctors away. Get busy with the Hail Marys.

Posted by: no one at December 12, 2025 05:42 PM (W7XSX)

30 I honestly can't tell if the "LawyerAndy" in the top tweet is being sardonic or serious.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 05:42 PM (6ydKt)

31 I like White Christmas.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 12, 2025 05:42 PM (q2Q7i)

32 Nicky Minaj has a serious set.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 12, 2025 05:43 PM (s0JqF)

33 It's weird to be thinking good thoughts about Nicki Minaj, who is the living illustration of the uncanny valley.

Maturity sometimes leads to wisdom. Good for her. And also for her stance on the genocide of Christians in Africa.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 12, 2025 05:43 PM (0aYVJ)

34 Cultural Marxism is all about race, sex deviance and class warfare

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 05:44 PM (Ia/+0)

35 "Jingle Bells is the new Baby It's Cold Outside."

I loved the twist with Betty Garrett and Red Skelton.

Posted by: no one at December 12, 2025 05:44 PM (W7XSX)

36 I suspect that ‘black babies’ study is a steaming pile of dogshit. Just made up. I assume all babies of any race will have a better chance with white doctors because that will eliminate the lowest tier of Gosnell-ish butchers in shitty hospitals in the poorest neighborhoods.

Posted by: Elric the Blade at December 12, 2025 05:44 PM (osKUJ)

37 Not landing a gender studies job is a capitalist success not a failure. People don't want or need gender studies and the fact that the only gender studies jobs are in teaching that crap is proof.

Next do sociology

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 12, 2025 05:44 PM (nJthq)

38 I am constantly amazed at how absolutely tone deaf the Democrats are but even more astounded that anyone actually votes for them.
Anything to ding Trumpno matter how absurd, what lie needs to be put out there , is fine in service to the Narrative.
The one that drives me crazy is the piggy meme. The reporter's name is Peggy. Trump,obviously said Peggy. There are still Democrats claiming this is vile Trump speech. They know it is not true but they say it over and over again.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 12, 2025 05:44 PM (t/2Uw)

39 I bought some Crown Royal Miniatures with little orange drawstring bags.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 12, 2025 05:44 PM (q2Q7i)

40 Was "Lawyer Andy" being ironic? Nowadays I often can't tell.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 12, 2025 05:44 PM (s0JqF)

41 Guys, if we end DEI then it will be white men who suffer the most.
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That's risk I'm willing to take.
Deal?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 05:45 PM (HXT0k)

42 31 I like White Christmas.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 12, 2025 05:42 PM (q2Q7i)

It's great in eggnog....

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 05:45 PM (VE6XX)

43 Yes, it was stupid of Europeans to ever start the term "white".

When doing biometric enrollments in Afghanistan, the people there don't indicate ethnicity as "white" they use "wheat".

And "white"/"wheat"/"snow"/whatever is stupid to characterize ethnicity anyway. Ethnos is the Greek term for nations. Nations traditionally has been the collection of a Family, as in the Table of Nations in the Scriptures post Babel.

Babel was a separation of a whole unit of people into distinct families that acquired a new language and in the days of Peleg dispersed around the globe.

With enough Somalian (or Appalachian) styled match-making and child bearing, Mendel's Genetics pretty much explains the so-called "racial characteristics" of these resulting nations/ethnicities.

I hope this helps explain why I tire of this sophomoric nonsense of "races".

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 05:45 PM (WCaCG)

44 Willowed:
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I thought the “we should be tolerant only of that which does not further intolerance” came from Marcuse and his idea that tolerating conservatism was “repressive” but suffocating it was “liberating tolerance.”

Posted by: He learned almost too late, that Moron is a feeling creature at December 12, 2025 05:33 PM (7kSOl)
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Well, this can still be the case, since Popper's "contribution" was mainly, AIUI, two footnotes.

But, I believe Marcuse cites Popper, who had some cache as the recognized eminent theorist of SCIENCE!

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:45 PM (krQz2)

45 Every year we get a new Christmas song declared racist or sexist or something ist. Leftists are just miserable people who want everyone else to be miserable.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 12, 2025 05:45 PM (n5tGW)

46 Joy Reid is literally retarded.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 12, 2025 05:45 PM (s0JqF)

47 I like White Christmas.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 12, 2025 05:42 PM (q2Q7i)

Its a good movie. Fun.

Now Holiday Inn, otoh. It's not bad because of the blackface. Its not a good movie.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 05:46 PM (zZu0s)

48 Or demonic possession. Never discount it my friends.
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I don't. When you watch (as just one example) those videos where the abolitionist guy (abortion abolitionist) sets up his sign on a college campus and 19-year old and 22-year old girls walk buy him and sling profanity while *bragging* about the abortions they've had, I find myself wondering what kind of influence they're under. Because the college girls of my day *might* have had an abortion, but they sure weren't *proud* of it, and certainly weren't shouting about it in the public square.

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 05:46 PM (TN0g+)

49 Set you alarm clocks, iphones etc., and don't miss! "Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene will appear on The View on January 7th, shortly after resigning from Congress."

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 05:46 PM (g47mK)

50 The fact that gender study grads can't get jobs just shows that humanity hasn't completely lost their fucking mind.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 12, 2025 05:47 PM (snZF9)

51 Surprised Reid didn't claim Jingle Bells was stolen by white people from Wakanda.

Posted by: Shonkin Sag at December 12, 2025 05:47 PM (1gRc6)

52 any MTG superfans want to comment ?

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 05:47 PM (g47mK)

53 A pregnant woman was declared brain dead, but because the fetus's heart was still beating, doctors said they had to keep her on life support.

ah. an axlotl tank. we approve.

Posted by: bene tleilax at December 12, 2025 05:47 PM (v3pYe)

54 "retarded" is a pejorative. We now use the term "intellectually disabled."

Posted by: no one at December 12, 2025 05:47 PM (W7XSX)

55 34 Cultural Marxism is all about race, sex deviance and class warfare
Posted by: Skip
Perfect definition.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 12, 2025 05:47 PM (t/2Uw)

56 5 Jingle Bells is the new Baby It's Cold Outside.

Just another stupid thing for the leftists to hate on.

So why do we keep losing to these retards?
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I Have Become Comfortably Lame at December 12, 2025 05:34 PM
________
We are being led by Indiana Republicans.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 12, 2025 05:47 PM (s0JqF)

57 Those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it.

Those that do know history are doomed to repeat it by the shear weight of those that don't.

Posted by: Adriane the Not Cynical Enough Critic . . . at December 12, 2025 05:48 PM (3ZUWJ)

58 Obviously the mention of riding a bobtail bay in the song "Jingle Bells" is code for keeping a black man. down.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 05:48 PM (PFs9e)

59 51 Surprised Reid didn't claim Jingle Bells was stolen by white people from Wakanda.

sadly, we just can't achieve the rich tone that comes from making your jingle bells out of vibranium.

Posted by: anachronda at December 12, 2025 05:48 PM (v3pYe)

60 The gender studies folks used to get good paying jobs. But since PDT, and the demise of DEI, those jobs disappeared.

Posted by: no one at December 12, 2025 05:48 PM (W7XSX)

61 >Why can't we win against the mentally ill & stupid people?

Posted by: NaCly Dog
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we're out-manned

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 05:48 PM (ZxPkt)

62 Joy Reid is literally retarded.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 12, 2025 05:45 PM (s0JqF)
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You're going to make Tim Walz jealous.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:48 PM (krQz2)

63 For a Gender Studies grad, what can they do to improve the human condition? My answer: nothing.

Cause I think they are one of the roadblocks to the path of progress.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2025 05:48 PM (u82oZ)

64 It's time Gavin Newsome came out and just admit that he loves men around him, on him and in him.

Posted by: Lindsey Graham, Closeted Homosexual at December 12, 2025 05:49 PM (R/m4+)

65 When did Nikki Minaj join our team?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 05:49 PM (viF8m)

66 Lawyer Andy?

What? Is this a character on Mister Rodgers or Pee Wee's Playhouse?

Is Lawyer Andy going to sue Cowboy Curtis the next time he butchers some MF Cows?

Posted by: Orson at December 12, 2025 05:49 PM (dIske)

67 And the colleges that have a DEI program are hiding it as best they can and are certainly not hiring.

Posted by: no one at December 12, 2025 05:50 PM (W7XSX)

68 Obviously the mention of riding a bobtail bay in the song "Jingle Bells" is code for keeping a black man. down.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 05:48 PM (PFs9e)
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It also appears in Camptown Races song, a notoriously minstrel-associated song.

Double-plus ungood.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:50 PM (krQz2)

69 For a Gender Studies grad, what can they do to improve the human condition?
My answer: nothing.


Go to Canada and claim terminal illness.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 05:50 PM (NzX/y)

70 any MTG superfans want to comment ?
Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 05:47 PM (g47mK)

They seem to be taking the day off.

Posted by: Otto Q. Cumber at December 12, 2025 05:50 PM (pcnhy)

71 "I'm dreaming of a DEI Christmas"

Posted by: Joy Reid at December 12, 2025 05:50 PM (PFs9e)

72 I saw the Jingle Bells is racist several months back.

The claim was that they'd put these outrageous harness-looking thing on slaves that were prone to run away.
So that they ... could hear them if they ran?
Or some stupid shit.

And it has some silly cartoon drawing that's all Ken Burnsy faded brown paper (that's how you know it's old and authentic, see?) with this ridiculous contraption strapped to some bare-chested black.

Proof!

And not the lyrics--not the snow, not the sleigh, and certainly not the "bells on bobtails" of the horses.
Nope, nope, nope! All about slavery!!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 05:51 PM (HXT0k)

73 When did Nikki Minaj join our team?

Apparently when she got married and had a kid or 2.

Posted by: no one at December 12, 2025 05:51 PM (W7XSX)

74
[i}I don't care what da white man say ...
Joyless Reid is a black man."

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 05:51 PM (25a1J)

75 When did Nikki Minaj join our team?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 05:49 PM (viF8m)
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You mean kinda-sorta.

I believe, it was over the transing children issue.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:51 PM (krQz2)

76
The euphemism treadmill is something to see. "Retarded" came into use because the previous terms like "moron" an "imbecile" had become pejorative and not nice. So "retard" was the new nice word.

And then, because any word describing something bad or undesirable, it became an insult as well. Go figure. Just stick with the original terms.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 12, 2025 05:52 PM (w6EFb)

77 "retarded" is a pejorative. We now use the term "intellectually disabled."[

"neurodivergent"

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 05:52 PM (NzX/y)

78 Don Black

We are outnumbered. Sadly true.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2025 05:52 PM (u82oZ)

79 69 Go to Canada and claim terminal illness.

you mean like the hazeltine 1500, which used tilde instead of escape?

Posted by: anachronda at December 12, 2025 05:52 PM (v3pYe)

80 Does anyone actually vote FOR a political party nowadays? I suspect almost everyone is voting against.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 12, 2025 05:53 PM (s0JqF)

81 Joy Reid retweeted -- "amplified," as they say -- a race-grifter claiming "Jingle Bells" is, get this, racist.

Racial Maddow says what?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 05:53 PM (jdPY0)

82 >>I believe, it was over the transing children issue.

She also praised Trump publicly for his support for Christians in Nigeria.

She's got a lot of fans. I welcome converts.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 05:53 PM (viF8m)

83 77 "retarded" is a pejorative. We now use the term "intellectually disabled."[

"neurodivergent"


what if my neurons are non-binary?

Posted by: anachronda at December 12, 2025 05:53 PM (v3pYe)

84 [snip]

And not the lyrics--not the snow, not the sleigh, and certainly not the "bells on bobtails" of the horses.
Nope, nope, nope! All about slavery!!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 05:51 PM (HXT0k

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Are the horseback Border Patrol riders still whipping illegal aliens?

/

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 05:53 PM (25a1J)

85 publius,

Would you please give Her Grace a kiss on the hand for me? The rest is up to you.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2025 05:54 PM (u82oZ)

86 How dare you dream of a white Christmas!!!

Posted by: Joy Reid at December 12, 2025 05:54 PM (PFs9e)

87 I'm going to agree with Hank Johnson, the USA is a terrible place, don't come here, stay away as far as possible. Go to the Ukraine. It's nice, lots of fireworks.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 12, 2025 05:54 PM (n5tGW)

88 Actually, I'll say something for MTG: Grifter or no, the lady was one of the few to speak up for the J6 guy during the really dark days of the Biden Junta.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 05:54 PM (zZu0s)

89 Ah, I see we have robo ace now.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 05:36 PM (h4uy9)

Before you see Prometheus you need to slap a hot iron on your longbow which will cost twenty dollars same as downtown and beware of your hampster's fartclam.

Posted by: Robo Commenter at December 12, 2025 05:54 PM (CSQvy)

90
Dashing (black appropriation)
through the snow (white people)
in a one (supremacy)
horse (white animal slavery)
open (appropriation)
slay (what white people do)

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:55 PM (krQz2)

91 But the study's lead author Brad N. Greenwood wrote in the margin: "I'd rather not focus on this. If we're telling the story from the perspective of saving black infants this undermines the narrative."

Who paid for this narrative?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 05:55 PM (6ydKt)

92 Ah, I see we have robo ace now.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 05:36 PM (h4uy9)
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I'd prefer Robo-Chuy.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:55 PM (krQz2)

93 Eeyore
Sure wish the GOPe gave me a reason to vote for them. I left them, because they are losers that fail to attract my vote.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2025 05:56 PM (u82oZ)

94 Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:55 PM

LOL

Posted by: Joy Reid at December 12, 2025 05:56 PM (PFs9e)

95 "retarded" is a pejorative. We now use the term "intellectually disabled."[

"neurodivergent"

what if my neurons are non-binary?


Then they will make you the Prime Minister

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 05:56 PM (NzX/y)

96 I'm going to agree with Hank Johnson, the USA is a terrible place, don't come here, stay away as far as possible. Go to the Ukraine. It's nice, lots of fireworks.

=

Qatar is a great place! I love it , so clean, safe, orderly ! you can slap your help around and no one would say a word!

Posted by: T. Fvcker Qatarlson at December 12, 2025 05:56 PM (g47mK)

97 Whoops; Forgot to remove my sock.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 05:56 PM (PFs9e)

98 Before you see Prometheus you need to slap a hot iron on your longbow which will cost twenty dollars same as downtown and beware of your hampster's fartclam.
Posted by: Robo Commenter at December 12, 2025 05:54 PM (CSQvy)

No mention of boobs.

Fake AND Gay.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 05:57 PM (zZu0s)

99 Guys, if we end DEI then it will be white men who suffer the most.

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Are they claiming that there will less slutty women in college after they eliminate DEI? There are still plenty of majors women can choose to get their MRS degree.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 12, 2025 05:57 PM (nJthq)

100 Just got an email from HOA that Google Fiber is coming soon. Anybody here have any experience with this?

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 05:57 PM (ZxPkt)

101 Ah, I see we have robo ace now.

During the week off, does that mean we get AI ace?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 05:57 PM (NzX/y)

102 I got a degree in Gender Studies just before the Boomers off-shored all the good Gender jobs to China. I hope that Trump will use tariffs to bring good Gender jobs back to America.

Posted by: Robo Commenter at December 12, 2025 05:57 PM (CSQvy)

103 Aetius451AD work phone

Maybe he has a life outside of Twitter and the blog. Maybe it's his turn to change the diapers of the triplets.

He has good OPSEC, so I give him that.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2025 05:57 PM (u82oZ)

104 well, this is not good ..

"Iran reportedly violently arrests 2023 Nobel Peace Prize laureate Narges Mohammadi at a memorial, her supporters say."

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 05:58 PM (g47mK)

105 I realized today that most of Western Europe is lost. They are well and truly boned.

We still have a fighting chance. But the idiots have to be sent to insane asylums for us to have that chance.

Posted by: no one at December 12, 2025 05:58 PM (W7XSX)

106 I'd prefer Robo-Chuy.
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:55 PM (krQz2)

You want that authentic, Taco Bell Hispanic flair, eh?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 05:58 PM (zZu0s)

107 SICK: Rep. Julie Johnson says National Guard members were shot in the head in a terror attack "because people are frustrated and they are channeling that frustration."

Democrats never seem to believe that 'frustration' can be channeled their way.

They aren't going to like it when they find out they're not bullet proof.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 05:58 PM (6ydKt)

108 Actually, I'll say something for MTG: Grifter or no, the lady was one of the few to speak up for the J6 guy during the really dark days of the Biden Junta.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 05:54 PM (zZu0s)
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As she is a politician, I would suspect there is a backing tendency to self-promotion.

Perhaps she got flustered/confused by DC, and simply fell-back into self-promotion, which is kinda akin to grifting.

Essentially it doesn't matter, because I have no more use for her, by what she is currently doing.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:58 PM (krQz2)

109 Sometimes, ya just read through all of this stuff, make an observance and think of the deeper meanings and the shadow operatives of the insanity. . . . . . . and ya just want to unleash and spew all of the names, derisions and labels that these lower 2% scum element of our society deserve. Ya know, azzwipes, all 130 variations of the F word, all the 100 varieties of the names for whores/sluts/kunts/skanks (infinity), all of the names for the mentally deficient, names for certain deserving ethnic/Balkan groups (self-created, by the way), and on and on. But would there be just one word that describes everything that's insane and which turns to shit when touched by these vermin? Yes. It's Liberals, subset Demoncrats. Fk them for the day. . may a pox be upon them and upon their houses.

Posted by: H8 Marxist Rat Bastards & the Gender Dysphorants at December 12, 2025 05:59 PM (Vngxz)

110 I have experience with Google Fi. It's cheap and it's okay.

Posted by: no one at December 12, 2025 05:59 PM (W7XSX)

111 Jingle Bells has the word "upsot," which was a sort of Mead made at Christmas secretly by enslaved people, comprised of elderberry wine and 40/40 Malt Liquor

Posted by: Joy Reid at December 12, 2025 06:00 PM (wGerL)

112 "because people are frustrated and they are channeling that frustration."

So, that's all it takes to excuse murdering someone? Hmmm.

I'm frustrated. Maybe I could use some channeling, too.

Is that really where you want to go?

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at December 12, 2025 06:00 PM (pE12i)

113 Funny thing I saw this week was some black man with hardware all embedded about his face proclaiming that he would trust a Muslim over any Christian because Muslims never enslaved his people.

After a few hours of getting dragged in his comments about the trans-Saharan slave trade, he deleted his post.

But he really thought he was making legitimate, historically accurate commentary.

But not even actual history penetrates his bubble:
He's completely oblivious that, just within the last 30 days, Muslims raided a Christian school in Nigeria for ... slaves.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 06:00 PM (HXT0k)

114 Essentially it doesn't matter, because I have no more use for her, by what she is currently doing.
Posted by: Axeman


See also, Prince Andrew; who fought bravely in the Falklands. Currently all he does is diddle kids.
Thanks for saving those fellow countrymen from the Argentine dictatorship, seriously; but we still don't like the kid fiddling.

Posted by: gKWVE at December 12, 2025 06:00 PM (gKWVE)

115
A new report finds that injecting people with superphysiological levels of artificial hormones increases their all-cause mortality.

--------------

Just wait 'til Fauci and his Butt-Monkeys begin employing "prenatal gene editing" in human embryos ex utero and fetuses in utero.

Maybe throw in one of Musk's Neuralink chips while you're at it ... what could go wrong?

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 06:00 PM (25a1J)

116 Essentially it doesn't matter, because I have no more use for her, by what she is currently doing.
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:58 PM (krQz2)

Granted. But if she is such a drifting nut bar, why stand up for the J6 guys when they were literally hunting and arresting people they thought to be in connection to it? Note the other fuckjng fearless jackasses like eyepatch fucking stayed silent or spoke against them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 06:00 PM (zZu0s)

117 Just saw a video. Trump in a golf cart with a so,done. He says I have a play list. On comes Minaj rap song with great video of Trump and Vance and Melania. Had me rocking and I don't especially like rap.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 12, 2025 06:00 PM (t/2Uw)

118 Ah, I see we have robo ace now.

During the week off, does that mean we get AI ace?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 05:57 PM (NzX/y)
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He's diverting hampster power to his AI ace project.

Right now, he's at the stage where every Ace AI prompt is answered "Fuck off."

2026 may likely see the Dawn of AI-Ace.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:00 PM (krQz2)

119 >But would there be just one word that describes everything that's insane and which turns to shit when touched by these vermin?
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FUBAR

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 06:00 PM (ZxPkt)

120 Just got an email from HOA that Google Fiber is coming soon. Anybody here have any experience with this?

Many years ago, Google Fiber was supposed to hit Austin and because the city is built upon limestone, buried cable was a No Go, so Google requested shared space on utility poles.

The city agree, only if Google would provide free internet to ALL of the schools, government buildings, and the list kept expanding as different special interest groups got wind of the feeding frenzy and their lobbyists were dropping out of the ceiling with demands for free hook-ups and service.

Google, after looking at the long and growing list of freeloaders dropped plans to do Fiber.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 06:01 PM (xE0sV)

121 retarded" is a pejorative. We now use the term "intellectually disabled."[

"neurodivergent"

what if my neurons are non-binary?

Then they will make you the Prime Minister
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 05:56 PM (NzX/y)\

That would be retarded.

As we used to say (daily!), don't be a retard.

Posted by: LASue at December 12, 2025 06:01 PM (UwBs6)

122 Does Newsome intend to ride the trans train into the White House?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2025 06:01 PM (pkeXY)

123 Just got an email from HOA that Google Fiber is coming soon. Anybody here have any experience with this?
Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 05:57 PM

I won't use Google Fiber because I grow my own natural fiber in my garden plus good diet and exercise should prevent you from needing extra fiber in the first place.

Posted by: Robo Commenter at December 12, 2025 06:01 PM (CSQvy)

124 A pregnant woman was declared brain dead, but because the fetus's heart was still beating, doctors said they had to keep her on life support.

But hey, at least they said 'woman' instead of 'pregnant person'.

Progress.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 06:02 PM (6ydKt)

125 108 Actually, I'll say something for MTG: Grifter or no, the lady was one of the few to speak up for the J6 guy during the really dark days of the Biden Junta.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 05:54 PM (zZu0s)

sometimes the runaway hormones work out in your favor, sometimes they don't.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 06:02 PM (uWKK8)

126 "But he really thought he was making legitimate, historically accurate"

Did Howard Zinn write a history of the world?

Posted by: no one at December 12, 2025 06:02 PM (W7XSX)

127 The data point was axed.

-----------

In order to save "The Science" we had to destroy "The Science."

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 06:03 PM (25a1J)

128 Just saw a video. Trump in a golf cart with a so,done. He says I have a play list. On comes Minaj rap song with great video of Trump and Vance and Melania. Had me rocking and I don't especially like rap.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 12, 2025 06:00 PM (t/2Uw)

That man has more joy of life and wide-ranging insterests and knowledge than any one I've ever met.

Posted by: LASue at December 12, 2025 06:03 PM (UwBs6)

129 {{{ Sharon(willow's apprentice)}}}

Interesting.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2025 06:03 PM (u82oZ)

130 It's got to be a gold mine, so how come the shysters - excuse me, lawyers - aren't swarming like sharks around a wounded swimmer?

I keep waiting.
Posted by: Eeyore
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Retired law academic but,
A) most trial lawyers and judges are not well versed in statistics and juries are damn near innumerate even college educated folks.

B) most law schools are of the left just like colleges and likewise their graduates have been indoctrinated to the key tenets of leftist religion.

C) you have two types of trial lawyers--those that use threat of a trial to negotiate but almost always settle and then you have the ball busters ultra type A sorts. It takes the ball buster ultra type A sort to ignore political and community pressure in discovery motions for some really seamy relevations about the practice of medicine

D) relative likelihood of payoff. Truck accidents involving cars are boring but trucking firms have better insurance than many individuals and juries like companies less than individuals. So steady sure payoff, low risk. Challenging troonism is akin to spitting in the eye of the elites and the uncertainty of payoff means high risk in investing scarce firm time.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 06:03 PM (WDjG6)

131 Granted. But if she is such a drifting nut bar, why stand up for the J6 guys when they were literally hunting and arresting people they thought to be in connection to it? Note the other fuckjng fearless jackasses like eyepatch fucking stayed silent or spoke against them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 06:00 PM (zZu0s)
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Perhaps because "Standing alone for J6 prisoners" seemed a good way to push her brand?

I'm not saying that it was just that. It's just now, I'm having a hard time seeing the serious side of her.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:03 PM (krQz2)

132 Oh and have you heard about the Cinnabon girl?

Seems a bunch of Somalis went to the mall.
And started filming this gal.
The clip the posted was just the part where she blew up and called them the (accurate) N-word.
So she got fired.

Full clip?

They were harassing her and berating her for not covering her skin, wearing a burka like them; insulting and mocking her.

And even after the full clip is known?
The left is still going after the white girl ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 06:04 PM (HXT0k)

133 I spent 4 years studying African American Studies and racked up a six figure debt. I then went to graduate school and studied another 2 years in Gender Fluid Studies and racked up another 6 figures in debt. I am thinking my next move is a Master's Course in Front Hole/Back Hole studies and another mountain of debt but my Mom said I have to clean my room first and get my bong out of the bathroom and finally get a job but Mom has to call me "Doctor" now. I hate Trump.

Posted by: 28 Year Old American Monster Child at December 12, 2025 06:04 PM (R/m4+)

134 52 any MTG superfans want to comment ?
Posted by: runner at December 12

The code pink photo op should have been enough.

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 06:05 PM (ZdaMQ)

135 I think 'White Christmas' is the only racist Choirmasters song just based on the name, and I'm pretty sure it was written by the Joos.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 06:05 PM (6ydKt)

136 "That man has more joy of life and wide-ranging interests and knowledge than any one I've ever met."

And he sleeps with a supermodel.

Posted by: no one at December 12, 2025 06:05 PM (W7XSX)

137 Basically eeyore,
The dam will break on lawsuits once AGs pave the way like tobacco or painkillers with massive lawsuits. Then you can piggyback off of their discovery information for your own trials. And society elites will have the shit smeared over their faces about what they have done.

Same logic, I think, regarding the big Covid malpractice ball of wax. Red state governments have to start first. Then you get the trial lawyer feeding frenzy until a massive settlement occurs.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 06:05 PM (WDjG6)

138 It's just now, I'm having a hard time seeing the serious side of her.
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:03 PM (krQz2)

Co sideline how we have seen the sausage is made, seeing someone leaving congress is not crazy seeming.

Ooh, she is going on the View the next day.

She's a nut bar, but she stood up for something that needed standing up for, once.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 06:05 PM (zZu0s)

139 Why is candace owens more of a thing than huckabee meeting with pollard?

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 06:06 PM (eVkP+)

140
The data point was axed.
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They axed the question.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2025 06:06 PM (pkeXY)

141 So the head fatass for Illinois just signed the assisted suicide bill into law. Is there anything that could in theory be done at the Federal level to prevent state assisted suicide?

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 06:06 PM (TN0g+)

142 So I believe Nikki Minaj has a rather plastic posterier... I .e. she injected tons of silicone there.

Is her rack natural or "enhanced?" I know black women tend to be pretty large in the bust department, for the most part.

It's certainly a more serious discussion than whether Jingle Bells is racist!

Posted by: SimoHayha at December 12, 2025 06:06 PM (0Aoc4)

143 28 Year Old American Monster Child

Can I have your permission to post that on X?

Posted by: no one at December 12, 2025 06:06 PM (W7XSX)

144 104 well, this is not good ..

"Iran reportedly violently arrests 2023 Nobel Peace Prize laureate Narges Mohammadi at a memorial, her supporters say."

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 05:58 PM (g47mK)

The regime is running real scared right now, and is in the "execute all of our critics!" phase. Iran is a whole lot weaker than even we think - the government really is on the edge of collapse - but they're going to kill as many unarmed citizens as they can on their way down.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 06:07 PM (uWKK8)

145 Both are good, however, Holiday Inn > White Christmas, as movies go

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 06:07 PM (eVkP+)

146 She's a nut bar, but she stood up for something that needed standing up for, once.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 06:05 PM (zZu0s)
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There you go. I agree.

It's just her nutbar side won out.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:07 PM (krQz2)

147 Does Newsome intend to ride the trans train into the White House?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2025 06:01 PM (pkeXY)

The trillion dollar, non-existent, high-speed train from shithole Merced to shithole Bakersfield is more real and reliable than the trans=train.

Posted by: LASue at December 12, 2025 06:07 PM (UwBs6)

148 Federalism.

Posted by: no one at December 12, 2025 06:07 PM (W7XSX)

149 The Cinnabon girl got a gofundme and did just fine.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 12, 2025 06:07 PM (t/2Uw)

150 White Christmas >>>>>>>>>>Christmas of Color

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 06:07 PM (eVkP+)

151 1.) Jingle bells - these hang from a string or rope. A thinly veiled reference to Christmas Eve Lynchings, always popular among whites.

2.) One horse open sleigh - it was a white tradition to replace all but the lead horse with barefoot black slaves for twelve days, so they'd get horse poop in their frostbite.

3.) Laughing all the way - the whites would laugh at the slaves and call them "poopfoot."

4.) Sleighing song tonight - originally "slaying song," this is a reference to the annual holiday rendition of "Dixie" whites would sing at their Christmas Eve Lynchings.

Posted by: Joy Reid, Music Historienne at December 12, 2025 06:07 PM (BI5O2)

152 So I believe Nikki Minaj has a rather plastic posterier... I .e. she injected tons of silicone there.

Is her rack natural or "enhanced?" I know black women tend to be pretty large in the bust department, for the most part.

It's certainly a more serious discussion than whether Jingle Bells is racist!
Posted by: S


yeah however, she' hot is a scary psycho sort of way

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 06:08 PM (eVkP+)

153 > Oestrogen

Not really related to the main point, but why the fuck do the Brits insist on keeping extraneous characters in words?

"Oestrogen". "Foetus". "Colour".

For the love of God, limeys, you're speaking English, not Latin, Greek, or even French. Act like it.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 12, 2025 06:08 PM (qpyNK)

154 Many years ago, Google Fiber was supposed to hit Austin and because the city is built upon limestone, buried cable was a No Go, so Google requested shared space on utility poles.

Google, after looking at the long and growing list of freeloaders dropped plans to do Fiber.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure
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Not true! I live in Austin and was one of the earliest areas with Google Fiber. It's is all under ground in my area. It has been great. No issues, high speeds, maybe 2 outages in almost 10 years. Google fiber is everywhere in Austin.

Posted by: lin-duh at December 12, 2025 06:08 PM (VCgbV)

155 So the head fatass for Illinois just signed the assisted suicide bill into law. Is there anything that could in theory be done at the Federal level to prevent state assisted suicide?
Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 06:06 PM (TN0g+)

An order to read the Bible and truly contemplate eternity?.

Posted by: LASue at December 12, 2025 06:08 PM (UwBs6)

156 Both are good, however, Holiday Inn > White Christmas, as movies go
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 06:07 PM (eVkP+)

N, you ignorant, retarded, antagonistic, troll baiting slut.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 06:09 PM (zZu0s)

157 Posted by: Joy Reid, Music Historienne at December 12, 2025 06:07 PM (BI5O2)

I think this thread is hilarious. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 06:09 PM (rZCVI)

158 Babylon Bee: Jasmine Crockett Hits Campaign Trail To Axe For Votes

Posted by: no one at December 12, 2025 06:09 PM (W7XSX)

159 Oh and have you heard about the Cinnabon girl?
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I wanna live with a Cinnabon girl.
I could be happy for the rest of my life
With a Cinnabon girl.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:09 PM (krQz2)

160 That would be retarded.

Are you channeling Rachel Jeantel, infamous Trayvon Martin GF who couldn't read cursive?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 06:09 PM (/TiS1)

161 I don't normally, but killing a little time in a good local tap room has it's plusses.

Cheers!

*drinks*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 06:09 PM (jdPY0)

162 Both are good, however, Holiday Inn > White Christmas, as movies go
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 06:07 PM (eVkP+)

N, you ignorant, retarded, antagonistic, troll baiting slut.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 06:09 PM (zZu0s)
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Somebody needs to stop him before he mentions Prometheus!

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:10 PM (krQz2)

163 141 So the head fatass for Illinois just signed the assisted suicide bill into law. Is there anything that could in theory be done at the Federal level to prevent state assisted suicide?
Posted by: Crusader at December

Remember when everyone was rightly disgusted by Dr. Kevorkian no matter your political affiliation?

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 06:10 PM (ZdaMQ)

164 Also: Can we all agree that when Nikki Minaj, she of the Anaconda video, is saying "hold the brakes on this immoral behavior!" then you've really, really gone overboard?

Posted by: SimoHayha at December 12, 2025 06:10 PM (0Aoc4)

165 Some retards were tyring to cancel Holiday Inn a few years ago because of a black face bit & because the only black character is a housekeeper.

Was not even acknowledged that the housekeeper had share interest / profit sharing in the inn.

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 06:10 PM (eVkP+)

166 The Trans social contagion is over. There are still crazy die hards, really crazy, but the vulnerable teen population has begun to realize the physical costs. Massive percentage decrease opting out of the madness. Like anorexia and bulimia, this will pass but the repercussions will be horrendous.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 12, 2025 06:11 PM (t/2Uw)

167
When did Nikki Minaj join our team?

Posted by: JackStraw

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She was born in the Caribbean and her mother was a gospel singer (father is a drunken abuser). Raised by her grandmother for a while. So she could be one of those hard-core Black people who's far from woke on gender idiocy, which is mostly a white liberal concoction anyway. Other than that, she might be a lefty loon, I have no idea.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 06:11 PM (1N/bM)

168 The fact that Lawyer Andy hasn’t been run through a wood chipper feet first is testimony this country is fucked

Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 06:11 PM (iZlnx)

169 Both are good, however, Holiday Inn > White Christmas, as movies go
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 06:07 PM (eVkP+)

N, you ignorant, retarded, antagonistic, troll baiting slut.
Posted by: Aetius




smiley face

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 06:11 PM (eVkP+)

170 Don we now our gay aparalel.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 12, 2025 06:11 PM (q2Q7i)

171 Joy Reid retweeted -- "amplified," as they say -- a race-grifter claiming "Jingle Bells" is, get this, racist.

TBH, I laughed at the rendition "Deck the Halls" in "A Christmas Story"...it must be racist too.

https://youtu.be/sE154vtGZms

♪ Deck the Hars with Bawrs of Whorry, Fa ra ra ra ra, Ra ra ra ra...♫

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 06:11 PM (ynpvh)

172 > Posted by: Joy Reid, Music Historienne at December 12, 2025 06:07 PM (BI5O2)

Bells on bobtail ring -- "Bobtail" was an ethnic slur of the time, and the bells in question were attached to an iron collar riveted around the slave's neck, so a fugitive could be tracked by the sound.

The entire sleigh ride is a thinly-veiled narrative about loading up a sleigh with shotgun-toting rednecks to pursue and gun down fugitive blacks.

Posted by: Communist Historian, PhD at December 12, 2025 06:12 PM (qpyNK)

173 Not true! I live in Austin and was one of the earliest areas with Google Fiber. It's is all under ground in my area. It has been great. No issues, high speeds, maybe 2 outages in almost 10 years. Google fiber is everywhere in Austin.

They must have relented then. Because I remember the KLBJ PM drive time host (at that time), Jeff Ward, bitching and moaning about the whole thing.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 06:12 PM (/TiS1)

174 Wi Tu Lau.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 12, 2025 06:12 PM (q2Q7i)

175 Isn't the lede here that Nicky Minaj said something rational?

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at December 12, 2025 06:13 PM (XMwZJ)

176 Known risks
- cardiovascular disease
-infertility
-pulmonary embolism
-stroke
Emerging 'warning signals' of increased risk
-early mortality
- pancreatitis
-testicular, thyroid and breast cancer
-autoimmune disease
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But ALL that has to be weighed against the Scientific fact that they FEEL PRETTY!!

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:13 PM (krQz2)

177 I am not a fan but minaj has some skills, not merely a whore as cardi b is

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 06:13 PM (eVkP+)

178 Granted. But if she is such a drifting nut bar, why stand up for the J6 guys when they were literally hunting and arresting people they thought to be in connection to it?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone
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Politicians are opportunists as a class and by being the odd woman out after Jan 6 and a newcomer, it raised her relevance (and donations) ensuring her reelection in 2022. She latched back on to McCarthy's bandwagon to get more relevance but her outspoken defense there meant she took an L when Johnson was picked. Her actions during Johnson's speakership so far made her toxic to the GOP House leaders by trumpeting shit like Epstein at key voting times on bills like the shutdown, the BBB, etc. And she sided with Massie on issues like Iran, etc. plus her prior comments about Jews over the last several years have in fact painted a target on her back for being primaried. Atlanta has a very prominent old and Jewish business community and they were not amused by her antics and in turn that meant the state GOP was not amused.

Then she started in on Trump and after all this was amazed that he didn't support her run for gov or Senate and that the polling data did not look good

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 06:13 PM (WDjG6)

179 White Christmas has better songs. I think a better plot that is more heartwarming. Rosemary Clooney. Vera... Allen?

Hell, even Danny Kaye i like better in the role as sidekick to Bing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 06:13 PM (zZu0s)

180 They must have relented then. Because I remember the KLBJ PM drive time host (at that time), Jeff Ward, bitching and moaning about the whole thing.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 06:12 PM (/TiS1)

They do nothing but bitch and moan- I think it's required in their contract.

Posted by: LASue at December 12, 2025 06:13 PM (UwBs6)

181 177 I am not a fan but minaj has some skills, not merely a whore as cardi b is

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 06:13 PM (eVkP+)

Which one sang the song about swiping your nose like a credit card?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 06:14 PM (ynpvh)

182 Some retards were tyring to cancel Holiday Inn a few years ago because of a black face bit & because the only black character is a housekeeper.

Was not even acknowledged that the housekeeper had share interest / profit sharing in the inn.
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Yeah, well Uncle Remus was a very sympathetic character in Song of the South and yet we can't even buy a copy of that one.

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 06:14 PM (TN0g+)

183 147 Does Newsome intend to ride the trans train into the White House?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2025 06:01 PM (pkeXY)

The trillion dollar, non-existent, high-speed train from shithole Merced to shithole Bakersfield is more real and reliable than the trans=train.
Posted by: LASue at December 12, 2025 06:07 PM (UwBs6)

I keep thinking Newsome can't possibly be their nominee, but then I look at Jasmine Crockett running for the Senate and think, what other choice do Dem's have in 2028? It sure ain't gonna be Shapiro, who has the Harvey Korman problem. ("Too Jewish")
They tried to popularize Mark Kelly, and he comes off as a snarly idiot in every public statement - too straight to please the left, too left to please anybody else. It sure ain't gonna be Kamala or Walz or Bootiegieg or any of those other idiots.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 06:14 PM (uWKK8)

184 Choirmasters?

Who gave the drugs to my autocucumber?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 06:15 PM (6ydKt)

185 Just curious...

What's the difference between a hard-core and a soft-core black?

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at December 12, 2025 06:15 PM (22p5n)

186
I think that post above indicates that scholarship thing didn't take with Joy Reid.

You woulda thought some of the idea of proving your claims would have rubbed off on Reid with the time she spend in academia.

But you'd be wrong, it seems.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:15 PM (krQz2)

187 > So she could be one of those hard-core Black people who's far from woke on gender idiocy, which is mostly a white liberal concoction anyway.

I remember when gay marriage got shut down at the polls in California a decade or two ago. There was a lot of screeching about Evil White Religious Men yadda-yadda-yadda, until someone looked into the matter and figured out that the deciding difference was...black church groups. These often vote for lefty causes, but not always. Gay marriage was a bridge too far.

Oddly, the screeching shut down almost as soon as this was pointed out.

Posted by: Communist Historian, PhD at December 12, 2025 06:15 PM (qpyNK)

188 Both are good, however, there's a bunch of funny stuff between bing and astaire, when they are doing the show in the first bit of the movie. The show where they dance and sing with whats her name.

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 06:15 PM (eVkP+)

189 cardi b is
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025

Cardi B is hysterical. Maybe not bright, but she made her money. And she tried to stay married to her babies father, bless her. Except the last baby but what can you do.

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 06:16 PM (ZdaMQ)

190 >>>And mark my words, when the Boomers are gone, it will all be the Millenials fault.
Posted by: Notsothoreau
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Guilt rides heavy on their shoulders.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 06:16 PM (imZqa)

191 Tom Servo, my money is on Slotkin.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 06:16 PM (sDNVV)

192 "What's the difference between a hard-core and a soft-core black?"

Vanessa Blue is hard-core and Nikki Minaj is soft-core?

Posted by: gKWVE shouldn't have said that at December 12, 2025 06:16 PM (gKWVE)

193 Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 06:13 PM (WDjG6)

My point being we 'one of the few good ones.' I am not sure there are any, just those who are more open about their antagonism or better at hiding it. Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, whoever just sat on their hands.

While everyone contends 'she just did it for clout' then my immediate response is 'then why didnt anyone do it for principle?'

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 06:16 PM (zZu0s)

194 {{{Ben Had}}}

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at December 12, 2025 06:16 PM (22p5n)

195 Which one sang the song about swiping your nose like a credit card?


dunno

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 06:16 PM (eVkP+)

196 184 Choirmasters?

Who gave the drugs to my autocucumber?

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 06:15 PM (6ydKt)

Cardi B. knows how to handle an autocucumber, or so I hear...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 06:17 PM (ynpvh)

197 Don we now our gay aparalel.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 12, 2025 06:11 PM (q2Q7i)
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Yeah? So?!!

Posted by: Don LeMon at December 12, 2025 06:17 PM (krQz2)

198 192 "What's the difference between a hard-core and a soft-core black?"

Vanessa Blue is hard-core and Nikki Minaj is soft-core?

Posted by: gKWVE shouldn't have said that at December 12, 2025 06:16 PM (gKWVE)

I take it I shoulda been more careful before I goggled the first?...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 06:18 PM (ynpvh)

199 Candace is a certifiable nutcase. She needs to be institutionalized.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 06:18 PM (77rzZ)

200 Vanessa Blue is hard-core and Nikki Minaj is soft-core?
Posted by: gKWVE shouldn't have said that at December 12, 2025 06:16 PM (gKWVE)

Damn.

Although I think Minaj did a sextape.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 06:18 PM (zZu0s)

201 Cardi B is hysterical. Maybe not bright, but she made her money. And she tried to stay married to her babies father, bless her. Except the last baby but what can you do.
Posted by: Piper


yeah, aside from the prostitution, hyper vulgar lyrics and giving guys rufies to steal watches. She's nothing but somebody's invention.

minaj has talents

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 06:18 PM (eVkP+)

202 Essentially Aetius451A,

She forgot loyalty as to who brung ya (constituents and Trump) to the dance and wanted to dance around the room with other partners like Massie, McCarthy, lefties. And her constituents/Trump/Johnson noticed that despite bringing her to the dance, she wanted to dance with the loonies.

Now she is trying to get someone to take her home to Griftsville whether they be left, right, Islamic, or polka dot.

If you notice, Mace never went after Trump directly nor did she piss off Johnson much. Boebert, having her scandal, has kept a lower profile and voted with her caucus.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 06:18 PM (WDjG6)

203 >> Would you please give Her Grace a kiss on the hand for me?

Done!

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 12, 2025 06:18 PM (w6EFb)

204 >>>Prescribing of cross sex hormones in children and young adults must be stopped
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WRONG


Prescribing of cross sex hormones must be stopped.
Period.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 06:19 PM (imZqa)

205 Hey Bulg!

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at December 12, 2025 06:19 PM (22p5n)

206 Hey, SMH!

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 06:19 PM (77rzZ)

207 SMH, Your daughter and granddaughters are gorgeous. ⁸

Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 06:19 PM (sDNVV)

208 In clown judge Bonerburger news, the DOJ has appealed his hearing on Monday demanding DOJ attorneys break attorney-client privilege.

Recall, Noam and other DOJ wagged their asses at him and dared him to proceed with contempt by saying "we followed advice of counsel" when he demanded they tell him why they didn't turn the planes around.

What's amusing is, the language they've used is not at all deferential and barely conceals their contempt.

Bonerburger and the radical left that's encouraging him are too dull to realize the DOJ wouldn't write that if they didn't already know they were going to win.
He can't support a criminal contempt case on "followed advise of counsel."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 06:19 PM (HXT0k)

209 195 Which one sang the song about swiping your nose like a credit card?


dunno

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 06:16 PM (eVkP+)

I found it. Was Cardi B.
Song is WAP ("Wet a** P****")
I wouldn't say the lyrics are exactly poetry...starts with

"Whores in this house
There's some whores in this house
There's some whores in this house
There's some whores in this house (Hol' up)
..."

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 06:19 PM (ynpvh)

210 Which one sang the song about swiping your nose like a credit card?


dunno
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 06:16 PM

It bothers me that I remember this, but Cardi B.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 06:20 PM (jdPY0)

211 How’s the house hunt going, SMH)

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 06:20 PM (77rzZ)

212 A song about a horse sleigh ride is all about keeping slaves chained up in the snow?
Fking Cultural Marxists are mentally unstable

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 06:20 PM (Ia/+0)

213 204 >>>Prescribing of cross sex hormones in children and young adults must be stopped
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WRONG


Prescribing of cross sex hormones must be stopped.
Period.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 06:19 PM (imZqa)

Only use the happy ones.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 06:20 PM (ynpvh)

214
This is terrible. Turrible, turrible, turrible. My wallet tore up, just ripped apart at the seams, and I had to get a new one. It's all different, can't find anything the same.

I've had that wallet for 30 years, if not more. And I can't stand the change.

Why they can't make a wallet that will last 100 years, I don't know.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 12, 2025 06:20 PM (w6EFb)

215 170 Don we now our gay aparalel.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 12, 2025 06:11 PM (q2Q7i)

I didn't see Don in anything I would deem gay apparel, but hey, I haven't seen that much of him, I guess.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 12, 2025 06:20 PM (6Bc88)

216 One wonders if the congress critter will speak in such generic euphemistic terms if “frustrated” constituents start capping her or her colleagues.

Leftists apparently have this weird notion that it isn’t likely to have two-way shooting ranges. Maybe this is a faulty assumption.

The manner in which they cavalierly dismiss atrocities perpetrated in the name of progressive nonsense over the last 50 years or so makes it inevitable things are going to get unspeakably bad. It’s baked in the cake at this point.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 06:20 PM (iZlnx)

217 Which one sang the song about swiping your nose like a credit card?
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She plays the "got your nose" trick?

What adult falls for that?!

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:20 PM (krQz2)

218 Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 06:18 PM (WDjG6)

Whig, you are avoiding the question after I conceded your point: why didnt anyone besides the grifter speak up for the J6 guys?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 06:20 PM (zZu0s)

219 Both are good, however, Holiday Inn > White Christmas, as movies go
Posted by: n

I agree. Holiday Inn is my favorite Christmas movie. Bing Crosby and Fred Astaire. Can't beat that combo.

Posted by: Tuna at December 12, 2025 06:20 PM (lJ0H4)

220 Thanks Ben Had. : )

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at December 12, 2025 06:21 PM (22p5n)

221 somebody has started using the lick my pussy and my crack for some new womens product of some sort, but set to muzk

you hear the singer saying "m neck, my back" but they do not get to pussy and my crack,

bundh of fatties dancing to the sng

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 06:21 PM (eVkP+)

222 77 "retarded" is a pejorative. We now use the term "intellectually disabled."[

"neurodivergent"
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 05:52 PM (NzX/y)
______________________________

Saliva based window cleaner.

Posted by: Orson at December 12, 2025 06:22 PM (dIske)

223 Lawyer Andy there apparently has no idea how to structure a sentence, so I guess that gender studies degree didn't require English Comp 101.

And I think he misses the point of capitalism. If anybody WANTED a gender studies major working at their company, they would have hired one. Capitalism is funny that way.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 12, 2025 06:22 PM (6Bc88)

224
I agree. Holiday Inn is my favorite Christmas movie. Bing Crosby and Fred Astaire. Can't beat that combo.
Posted by: Tun


smiley face

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 06:22 PM (eVkP+)

225 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 06:19 PM (ynpvh)

I think i get the idea.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 06:22 PM (zZu0s)

226 spell the word for the color that is halfway between black and white

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 06:22 PM (ZxPkt)

227 I've had that wallet for 30 years, if not more. And I can't stand the change.

Why they can't make a wallet that will last 100 years, I don't know.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 12, 2025 06:20 PM (w6EFb)
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Hobo skins are kind of worn out to start with...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 06:22 PM (ESVrU)

228 The Left prefers their liars.

The more bald faced the liar, the more they love them.

Posted by: blaster at December 12, 2025 06:22 PM (RoO7G)

229 164 Also: Can we all agree that when Nikki Minaj, she of the Anaconda video, is saying "hold the brakes on this immoral behavior!" then you've really, really gone overboard?

Posted by: SimoHayha at December 12, 2025 06:10 PM (0Aoc4)

Blacks are a lot more 'phobic' about LGBTQ craziness than whites are.

She's just keeping it real where she's from.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 06:23 PM (6ydKt)

230 Cardi B is hysterical. Maybe not bright, but she made her money. And she tried to stay married to her babies father, bless her. Except the last baby but what can you do.
Posted by: Piper
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And what are they doing with her fucking taxes?

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:23 PM (krQz2)

231 How’s the house hunt going, SMH)
Posted by: Bulg
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Not doing much right now.

Prolly won't do much until the spring.

Besides, some of these folks on Zillow must be smoking crack, with what they're asking for.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at December 12, 2025 06:23 PM (22p5n)

232 I agree. Holiday Inn is my favorite Christmas movie. Bing Crosby and Fred Astaire. Can't beat that combo.
Posted by: Tuna at December 12, 2025 06:20 PM (lJ0H4)

You're just encouraging him.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 06:23 PM (zZu0s)

233 if youre buying houses now is the best time for buyers

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 06:23 PM (eVkP+)

234 Remember when everyone was rightly disgusted by Dr. Kevorkian no matter your political affiliation?
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For like $125, you can go see the actual van in Zac Baggins museum in Las Vegas

It is sorta creepy, seeing it

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 06:23 PM (HXT0k)

235 >> Candace is a certifiable nutcase. She needs to be institutionalized.

Deranged lunatic, she is. When I saw she went, get this, flat-earth "curious" a while back, I realized she was gone.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 12, 2025 06:23 PM (w6EFb)

236 Saliva based window cleaner.
Posted by: Orson at December 12, 2025 06:22 PM

Sherwin Williams taste tester.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 06:24 PM (jdPY0)

237 Saliva based window cleaner.
Posted by: Orson at December 12, 2025 06:22 PM (dIske)

*golfclap*

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 06:24 PM (zZu0s)

238 212 A song about a horse sleigh ride is all about keeping slaves chained up in the snow?
Fking Cultural Marxists are mentally unstable

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 06:20 PM (Ia/+0)

I think liberal arts majors and leftists have a thing for chains, slavery, and sexualization.
Had a lit prof tell me she did her thesis on the feminism and sexual inuendo of the novel "Frankenstein"...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 06:24 PM (ynpvh)

239 The Left prefers their liars.

The more bald faced the liar, the more they love them.

Posted by: blaster at December 12, 2025 06:22 PM (RoO7G)
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The left wants to "transcend reality", and if not in reality, then lie about it.

That's really their baseline. "To keep the dream alive".

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:24 PM (krQz2)

240 I thought Notre Dame was supposed to be built back exactly as it was. Of course Macron had to insert something weird. Of course. I am glad I saw it three times in the original setting, and it was beautiful.

I think I got all of my venting done below about Candyass Owens. But you never know. Something else might pop into my head.

What an evil woman. I hope her babies are being raised somewhat normally, by a nanny or a dog. Maybe her husband is/was normal and lends a hand.

I can only imagine the anger and bitterness seeping from Candace and spilling over to her babies. I read she popped out the last two quickly , but don't know and won't read about it.

I do feel badly for Mrs. Kirk having to deal with this insanity after losing her husband so violently. One does not expect this from former "friends." One does not expect this from a "conservative," or if she claims to be Christian, our Candace. No clue.

I am calling it here: she is evil and starting tonight I will pray against her and her ragged band of followers. Miserable wretch who was tossed aside by her own "true love," is how I see her. Pathetic, jealous, paranoid schizophrenic, reduced to slander.

The pain of rejection.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 12, 2025 06:24 PM (WONhk)

241 Minaj came aboard after the Nigerian Christian girls school was raided by Islamists.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 12, 2025 06:25 PM (t/2Uw)

242 I think liberal arts majors and leftists have a thing for chains, slavery, and sexualization.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 06:24 PM (ynpvh)
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Robert Mapplethorpe had a use for a bullwhip.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:25 PM (krQz2)

243 if youre buying houses now is the best time for buyers
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 06:23 PM

Not around here, yet.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 06:25 PM (jdPY0)

244 Ok. Damn, I have had this question going on 25 years. Came from a joke I heard Dennis Miller use once:

Was their a drug referred to as 'window pane' or was he trying to refer to someone as stupid? He said something like 'high on window pane.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 06:25 PM (zZu0s)

245 My point being we 'one of the few good ones.' I am not sure there are any, just those who are more open about their antagonism or better at hiding it. Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, whoever just sat on their hands.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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And now you have mastered politics of DC. The primary motivation (and this has been empirically tested btw) is to run and win reelection. A guy named Anthony Downs came up with the essential guide to two party systems. Activists are on the left or right of a bimodal distribution of voters. Activists pull candidates to the right (GOP-donors to the left now) or left (Dem donors+activists) in primaries and then candidates race toward the district, state, or even country's median voter in the general.

They view elections pragmatically as to what guarantees your reelection. What you might want to know about MTG's district is that is has a lot of old Larry McDonald's, Newt Gingriches, etc. voters and they dislike Washington as it runs with a passion. So supporting the Jan 6 played well with voters in her district, played well with Trump, and given her very junior status, helped her win a primary for reelection in 2022 after redistricting.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 06:26 PM (WDjG6)

246 if youre buying houses now is the best time for buyers
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 06:23 PM

Not around here, yet.
Posted by: R


Depends, whether you talking about absolute market bottom or before spring.

who knows when we're going to hit market bottom or where geographically.

however , now is always the best time to be a buyer, desperate sellers, no buyers.

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 06:27 PM (eVkP+)

247 Remember when everyone was rightly disgusted by Dr. Kevorkian no matter your political affiliation?
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Here in Michigan, I do not remember that.

There are plenty of people I can remember who bit into the "Right to Die".

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:27 PM (krQz2)

248 Clearly, Christmas ITSELF is RAAAAACIST!

Why? what is the most popular song of all time...

WHITE CHRISTMAS!!! See!!!! PROOF!

And Santa Claus? Not only WHITE, but also exploiting the labor of those Poor Elves!

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 12, 2025 06:27 PM (mP0Kj)

249 And what are they doing with her fucking taxes?
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:23 PM (krQz2)

Wait, they tax fucking?

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 12, 2025 06:27 PM (6Bc88)

250 Quickly glancing at that picture of Erika Kirk, I thought that it was Nicole Kidman for a second.

Beautiful lady.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 06:27 PM (77rzZ)

251 go see the actual van in Zac Baggins museum in Las Vegas

Didn't "Hardcore Pawn" reject that thing?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 12, 2025 06:27 PM (Kt19C)

252 The semi-truck driver who was arrested in a deadly crash in Washington state is an Indian illegal alien who was released into the US by the Biden Regime.

25-year-old Kamalpreet Singh killed a 29-year-old man on the morning of December 11 after he crushed the victim’s vehicle between two trucks while driving northbound on SR 167.

Singh likely obtained his CDL in Democrat hellhole of California, since he resided there. He is facing a vehicular homicide charge.

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 06:27 PM (TN0g+)

253 244


LSD

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 06:27 PM (ZxPkt)

254 For all the jokes about Minaj, I do respect she stepped forward for the Nigerians. Who else is doing this among the - say - black pastors? (Actually a nonrhetorical question, I don't know.)

Posted by: gKWVE at December 12, 2025 06:28 PM (gKWVE)

255 What you might want to know about MTG's district is that is has a lot of old Larry McDonald's, Newt Gingriches, etc. voters and they dislike Washington as it runs with a passion. So supporting the Jan 6 played well with voters in her district, played well with Trump, and given her very junior status, helped her win a primary for reelection in 2022 after redistricting.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 06:26 PM (WDjG6)
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Damn, you can learn something with every Whig post.

Thanks.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:29 PM (krQz2)

256 > Prescribing of cross sex hormones must be stopped.
Period.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 06:19 PM (imZqa)

If I remember right, there are a few (VERY few) legitimate medical uses. Some types of prostate cancer are testosterone sensitive, so blocking testosterone and/or increasing estrogen (or "oestrogen") is a valid treatment.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 12, 2025 06:29 PM (qpyNK)

257 Was their a drug referred to as 'window pane' or was he trying to refer to someone as stupid? He said something like 'high on window pane.'
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 06:25 PM (zZu0s)

Well, window pane used to refer to some kinds of acid, as in LSD. I assume that's what he meant. But I didn't hear the joke.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 12, 2025 06:29 PM (6Bc88)

258 Greenwood, the Maximus Corporate Partner Professor of Business at George Mason University, wrote another note to his coauthors that may indicate he had a predetermined desired conclusion, a strong correlation between physician race and clinical outcomes, the FOIA documents suggest.

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"My name is Maximus Decimus Corporatus, Commander of the Trannies of the North, General of the Faggot Legions, loyal servant to the true emperor, Barrackus Obamanus. Father to an aborted son, husband to a wife and her bull. And I will have My Science, in this life or in hell!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 06:29 PM (25a1J)

259 LSD
Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 06:27 PM (ZxPkt)

Ok, thanks.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 06:29 PM (zZu0s)

260 207 SMH, Your daughter and granddaughters are gorgeous. ⁸
Posted by: Ben Had at December

Look at their mama!

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 06:29 PM (ZdaMQ)

261 Newt Gingriches

Newt?
Newt the flute?
TOOT TOOT!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 12, 2025 06:30 PM (Kt19C)

262 249 And what are they doing with her fucking taxes?
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:23 PM (krQz2)

Wait, they tax fucking?

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 12, 2025 06:27 PM (6Bc8

They do, if you do it professionally...ask Nevada. Uncle Sam is more than happy to go after those who have not declared their earnings from the sex trade...does that make Uncle Sam a pimp?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 06:30 PM (ynpvh)

263 I've had that wallet for 30 years, if not more. And I can't stand the change.

Why they can't make a wallet that will last 100 years, I don't know.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 12, 2025 06:20 PM

I sympathize with you. When my cheap twenty-year old wallet finally disintegrated, I had to buy three new ones before I found one I could live with.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 12, 2025 06:30 PM (CSQvy)

264 The usual terrible people acting terribly doesn't get me down.
I'm depressed I just found out that Oliver Sacks just made up his case files.

Posted by: Pete in Texas at December 12, 2025 06:31 PM (VmB4Z)

265 And what are they doing with her fucking taxes?
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:23 PM (krQz2)

Wait, they tax fucking?
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 12, 2025 06:27 PM (6Bc8
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https://youtu.be/Oieu8d6jgJc?t=54

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:31 PM (krQz2)

266 I've had that wallet for 30 years, if not more


didn't ever get much use?

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 06:32 PM (eVkP+)

267 I sympathize with you. When my cheap twenty-year old wallet finally disintegrated, I had to buy three new ones before I found one I could live with.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 12, 2025 06:30 PM

The struggle is real.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 06:32 PM (jdPY0)

268 SICK: Rep. Julie Johnson says National Guard members were shot in the head in a terror attack "because people are frustrated and they are channeling that frustration."

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What, "Some people did some things" wasn't available?

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 06:32 PM (25a1J)

269 Old joke:

A popular mohel started saving and tanning all the foreskins. He did this for years, until he finally had enough to sew into a wallet.

Best part: when you rub it, it turns into a trunk.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 12, 2025 06:32 PM (qpyNK)

270 I sympathize with you. When my cheap twenty-year old wallet finally disintegrated, I had to buy three new ones before I found one I could live with.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 12, 2025 06:30 PM

first world problem!

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 06:32 PM (g47mK)

271 >>>241 Minaj came aboard after the Nigerian Christian girls school was raided by Islamists.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)
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Be hot time to see a raft of hot black celebrities come out against Islam.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 06:32 PM (imZqa)

272 nood


Moore

Posted by: banana Dream at December 12, 2025 06:32 PM (3uBP9)

273 One of oldest family traditions is on Christmas Day going to Grandmother's house. When we got there we would announce our arrival by belting out "Jingle Bells" while still in the front yard, gathered around her lawn jockey, and lashing it with leather straps.

Then we'd go downtown and sing "Joy to the World" while beating hobos....

... what goes on in some peoples heads....

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 12, 2025 06:33 PM (/lPRQ)

274 Channeling? Like speaking the message given during possession by a demon channeling? Otherwise it’s cosplay with civil liability and criminal exposure channeling.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at December 12, 2025 06:33 PM (YlWIZ)

275 They tax fucking? Something related to jizz ya.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 06:33 PM (sDNVV)

276 Use of the spelling “oestrogen” has been found to correlate with a high amount of gayness in laboratory animals.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 06:33 PM (77rzZ)

277 Whig, you are avoiding the question after I conceded your point: why didnt anyone besides the grifter speak up for the J6 guys?
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Long and the short of it. It played well in her district when she was primaried in 2022 by a GA GOPe type. And if you see above, not avoiding but simply cannot type that fast.

New representatives are the most like a weathervane and unpredictable. See George Santos (predictable on Cong voting but not on scandal), Lauren Boebert (a bit of scandal), Mace (toxic past relationship and past sex abuse issues), etc. Some, like the squad, were birds of a feather using their new shiny donor network (smurfed ActBlue very possible here from foreign sources), some plan to run for higher office from teh beginning, and some plan to advance in the House leadership (Stefanik for example until the gov. opportunity popped up along with a UN nomination to raise her status).

Those that take sudden u turns often have the people around them (staff etc. change) and family can also affect issues (reportedly in MTG's case but dunno if accurate). Some, like Justin Amash, have business interest that Orangeman bad threatened (tool import biz).

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 06:33 PM (WDjG6)

278 You want a dead son or a dead daughter?

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 12, 2025 06:33 PM (gbOdA)

279 Marxism - criminals are not at fault because society drove them to their actions

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 06:35 PM (Ia/+0)

280 ne of oldest family traditions is on Christmas Day going to Grandmother's house. When we got there we would announce our arrival by belting out "Jingle Bells" while still in the front yard, gathered around her lawn jockey, and lashing it with leather straps.

Then we'd go downtown and sing "Joy to the World" while beating hobos....

... what goes on in some peoples heads....
Posted by: Itin


easily has to be among the most vile, disgusting things ever written here or anywhere, you and every generation of your family, especially your grandmother, should feel deep and abiding shame, forever, for reffering to that poor man as an "it", shame

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 06:35 PM (eVkP+)

281 There's a 857 sq. ft. 2BR 1BA down the street from me listed at $900,000.

Posted by: wth at December 12, 2025 06:36 PM (v0R5T)

282 Macron under fire after green lighting a $3 million project to replace the famous stained glass windows at Notre Dame in Paris with windows depicting people of non-European decent

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Did he use the Google "AI" ChatBot Gemini to create those images?

Next you'll be telling me that the U.S. Founding Fathers were strictly black individuals and Native Americans Indigenous Peoples who wrote & signed the Declaration of Independence, fought the Revolutionary War, and wrote the U.S. Constitution.

Wait, wut?

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 06:37 PM (25a1J)

283 Thanks.
Posted by: Axeman
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FWIW, Larry MacDonald died on KAL 007 when the Russkis shot it down and was a very staunch anti communist Democrat.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 06:37 PM (WDjG6)

284 Marxism - criminals are not at fault because society drove them to their actions

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 06:35 PM (Ia/+0)
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That key part came from Owen, not Marx.

Posted by: Democrat Defense at December 12, 2025 06:38 PM (krQz2)

285 There's a 857 sq. ft. 2BR 1BA down the street from me listed at $900,000.

Posted by: wth at December 12, 2025 06:36 PM (v0R5T)

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Please tell me it's one of those empty Cosco Freight Containers.

Lie to me if you must ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 06:43 PM (25a1J)

286 Stymie played both Topsy and Uncle Tom in the Little Rascals Uncle Tom's Cabin production.

Posted by: Matthew Beard at December 12, 2025 06:45 PM (oftw2)

287 Why can't we win against the mentally ill & stupid people?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2025 05:37 PM (u82oZ)

Because it takes longer to build or rebuild than to break.

I was thinking about this fact when listening to nutcase Somalians who think somehow they're destined to be rich inheritors of the US. (I'm sure Ace covered it, but a particularly ridiculous claim is that Minnesota was promised to them in a 3000-year-old prophecy!)

They don't know how civilization works. They don't realize that when you steal money and blow it on a good time, the money doesn't keep coming. But it's going to cost a lot of time and money to fix what they damaged. The stupid bastards.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 12, 2025 06:45 PM (Io7m1)

288 Be hot time to see a raftck of hot black celebrities come out against Islam.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 06:32 PM (imZqa)
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Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:47 PM (krQz2)

289 Why can't we win against the mentally ill & stupid people?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2025 05:37 PM (u82oZ)
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Regression to the mean?

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 06:48 PM (krQz2)

290 Why can't we win against the mentally ill & stupid people?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 12, 2025 05:37 PM (u82oZ)
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Because too many of the just-trying-to-live-day-to-day types have normalcy bias, believe human beings are basically good, and are too naively kind and trusting to believe that half this insanity we talk about is even really happening?

Posted by: He learned almost too late, that Moron is a feeling creature at December 12, 2025 06:55 PM (7kSOl)

291 Google fiber? Story time. Back when I was in college, lo these *mumble* years ago, our city actually built out it's own fiber network to everywhere. It was pricey, but you could sign up for it.

Fast forward lots of years, and Google decides to start with Google Fiber. Problem is, they don't know yet how to run a company, nor do they have the equipment. So they went looking for help.

My city said, "we've got a fiber network you can buy and run! We'll charge you a dollar to buy it! Only 1 teeny, tiny problem: we lost track of where all the fiber actually is, so we have no idea where the actual lines are!"

Google took it, and thus my old college town was one of the very first Google fiber cities. Took everyone by surprise, because Provo, Utah does not sound like a place Google would be "first"

Posted by: SimoHayha at December 12, 2025 06:56 PM (0Aoc4)

292 The semi-truck driver who was arrested in a deadly crash in Washington state is an Indian illegal alien who was released into the US by the Biden Regime.

25-year-old Kamalpreet Singh killed a 29-year-old man on the morning of December 11 after he crushed the victim’s vehicle between two trucks while driving northbound on SR 167.

Singh likely obtained his CDL in Democrat hellhole of California, since he resided there. He is facing a vehicular homicide charge.
Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 20

The local news has absolutely no information about the driver of the semi. SHOCK!!!

Posted by: LASue at December 12, 2025 07:04 PM (nKjbR)

293 Fairly certain that Candace was in love with Charlie Kirk and hated that he married someone else. She's clearly acting as a woman scorned and she's making bank by doing it.

Posted by: NJRob at December 12, 2025 08:18 PM (bT8+D)

294 You mean my BA Degree in Gay Hamster Sexual Practices that I paid $200K to get will not even get me a Minimum Wage Job at Burger King ?????????

Those people at that College I went to lied to me !!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Jackson at December 12, 2025 08:58 PM (J9q9v)

295 Statistically speaking, you never want a black doctor when a white doctor is available, unless you have certifiable quality data showing you the black doctor is actually good. It is the unfortunate reality of medical schools for having enrolled many black students who had no business getting in ahead of more qualified non-black applicants. The more appalling thing to think about is that this robbed from legitimately qualified black medical students the trust of the population at large in their capabilities as a physician. DEI does mean DIE.

Posted by: Black JEM at December 13, 2025 12:26 AM (UVyKP)

296 Snow is white.

Whiteness is racism.

Therefore snow is racist.

Posted by: David Davies at December 13, 2025 12:48 PM (1p2zM)

Four Years Too Late, The New York Times Admits That Biden Pursued a Reckless Policy of Unlimited Illegal Immigration -- But Only In Service of New Narrative That Only Biden Favored Open Borders While the Rest of the Democrat Party Opposed It

Amazing. Amazing.

Big Brother is rewriting history and deleting old files and airbrushing old photos as we watch them do it.

Kind of a pattern with the propaganda media, isn't it? Admitting the Democrats were wrong -- lied, actually -- about covid and Biden's cognitive fitness and now open borders.

And then creating a new narrative absolving all Democrats of those lies going forward.


How Biden Ignored Warnings and Lost Americans' Faith in Immigration


The Democratic president and his top advisers rejected recommendations that could have eased the border crisis that helped return Donald Trump to the White House.

See, his "top advisors" -- who can be taken to represent the real Democrat Party -- warned him not to throw open the borders and plunge the country into "chaos," but Biden -- and only Biden -- was determined to impose an open borders policy on the Democrats who heroically resisted this folly.

In the weeks after Joseph R. Biden Jr. was elected president, advisers delivered a warning: His approach to immigration could prove disastrous.

Mr. Biden had pledged to treat unauthorized immigrants more humanely than President Donald J. Trump, who generated widespread backlash by separating migrant children from their parents.

But Mr. Biden was now president-elect, and his positions threatened to drastically increase border crossings, experts advising his transition team warned in a Zoom briefing in the final weeks of 2020, according to people with direct knowledge of that briefing. That jump, they said, could provoke a political crisis.

"Chaos" was the word the advisers had used in a memo during the campaign.

They offered a range of options to avert that crisis, by better deterring migrants. Mr. Biden seemed to grasp the risk. But he and his top aides failed to act on those recommendations.

The warnings came true, and then some. After Mr. Biden became president, migrant encounters at the southern border quickly doubled, then kept rising. New arrivals overwhelmed border stations, then border towns, and eventually major cities like New York and Denver.

Anger over illegal migration helped return Mr. Trump to the presidency, and he has enacted even more aggressive policies than those Mr. Biden first campaigned against. Mr. Trump has drawn outrage from Democrats by sending masked agents to target immigrants, often aided by National Guard soldiers.


Biden did All the Bad Things, you guys, single-handedly. Biden was the only thing wrong with the Democrat Party. Now that he's out, the Democrat Party is Perfect Again (TM).


Walter Kirn summed this effort up as the Democrats "trying to establish a new encyclopedia entry" on this chapter of political history so that future voters will only be able to read this version of events.

...

But a New York Times examination of Mr. Biden's record found that he and his closest advisers repeatedly rebuffed recommendations that could have addressed the border crisis faster, and eased what became a potent issue for Mr. Trump as he sought to return to the White House and justify the aggressive tactics roiling American cities today.

Former Biden administration officials told The Times that Mr. Biden and his circle of close confidants -- including Ron Klain, who was chief of staff during the president's first two years, Mike Donilon, Jennifer O'Malley Dillon and Anita Dunn -- made two crucial errors.

First, they underestimated the scale of migration that was coming. Second, they failed to appreciate the political reaction to that migration -- believing that stronger enforcement would alienate Latino and progressive voters, and also that a border surge would not be an important issue to most voters. Those calculations would later prove to be mistaken, with many voters, including Latinos, citing immigration as a reason for supporting Mr. Trump in 2024.

"Everybody was reacting to the excesses of the Trump administration," said Cecilia Muñoz, who helped shape immigration policy in the Obama administration and oversaw domestic and economic policy for the Biden transition team.

Of course -- it wasn't the Democrats' fault, it was Trump's.

Biden only embraced open borders Because Trump. This wasn't the Democrat Party position or anything.

Except... that in the Democrat primary presidential debate of 2016, scheduled by Hillary Clinton for Christmas Eve so that no one could see it, both Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders (formerly in favor of border control) vowed that no illegal aliens -- not one -- would be deported under their would-be presidencies.

I remember attempting to bring this attention to NeverTrumpers claiming Hillary Clinton was the Real Conservative Choice in 2016. They, get this, pretended she never said that.

And now the New York Times debases itself by imitating the behavior of vile NeverTrumpers in pretending that open borders was just something Biden came up with alone as a reaction to the Beast of the Apocalypse Donald Trump.

Posted by: Ace at 04:28 PM




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1 St

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 04:28 PM (MGB5H)

2 That is some highly-enriched weapons-grade bullshit, and millions of low-info voters will slurp it right down like it was hot fudge.

Posted by: Too many sheeple at December 12, 2025 04:30 PM (TbWk/)

3 It would be LOL for the NYT to claim that sundown Joe came up with or insisted on any policy position, except so many people still treat the FNM as news rather than as the propaganda arm of the commiecrat party.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 12, 2025 04:31 PM (hhkIi)

4 Four Years Too Late, The New York Times Admits That Biden Pursued a Reckless Policy of Unlimited Illegal Immigration -- But Only In Service of New Narrative That Only Biden Favored Open Borders While the Rest of the Democrat Party Opposed It
—Ace


Gavin Newsome tried. He really, REALLY tried to make Biden see reason, but gosh darn it, he just couldn't make Biden do what everyone could see needed doing. It's tragic, really.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 04:31 PM (Riz8t)

5 All while Gavin Newsom's own X account is bragging that Newsom got free healthcare for illegals.

It's almost like they have a messaging problem.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:31 PM (GBKbO)

6 "That demented Old Man Biden sure gave a black eye to the otherwise pristine Democrat Party. Good thing we dumped him so our many other patriots can get us back on course."

The Same Old Corrupt Dem Party

Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2025 04:31 PM (vbXSk)

7 Yes, it's all predictable, but it works.

The uninformed middle will fall for the Democrats lies again and again.

That's why they keep doing it.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 12, 2025 04:32 PM (cuae1)

8 I remember attempting to bring this attention to NeverTrumpers claiming Hillary Clinton was the Real Conservative Choice in 2016. They, get this, pretended she never said that.

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"She was just trying to get elected! We shouldn't believe anything she says!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:32 PM (GBKbO)

9 Saw today Tim Watz wants more Somalians, to suck up more fraud probably

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 04:32 PM (Ia/+0)

10 Guys, I think the democrats might be liars...

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 04:33 PM (MGB5H)

11 Let the underbussing commence!

Posted by: The Left at December 12, 2025 04:33 PM (nhCoE)

12 "Joe Biden shit our pants!"
-- Democrats

It's almost plausible.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 12, 2025 04:33 PM (z5QST)

13 If the rest of the Democrat Party didn't support open borders why are they now fighting so hard to keep illegals in the country?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 04:34 PM (viF8m)

14 I finally finished.

I'm taking the rest of the week off.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 04:34 PM (1wjle)

15 f the rest of the Democrat Party didn't support open borders why are they now fighting so hard to keep illegals in the country?
Posted by: JackStraw at

Shhhhhhhhhhh

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 04:34 PM (MGB5H)

16 Next up, Biden used to sneak into the Oval Office late at night and write up bizarre Executive Orders, which everybody opposed, but what could they do?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 12, 2025 04:35 PM (CSQvy)

17 14 I finally finished.

I'm taking the rest of the week off.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 04:34 PM (1wjle)

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Get back here and refile all your TPS reports with the new covers!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:35 PM (GBKbO)

18 ace, take the rest of the week off! enjoy !

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 04:35 PM (g47mK)

19 If your for ruining America raise your hand.

Posted by: Get out of my fucking shot at December 12, 2025 04:36 PM (jZ3ZM)

20 Mr. Biden had pledged to treat unauthorized immigrants more humanely than President Donald J. Trump, who generated widespread backlash by separating migrant children from their parents

WHO BUILT THE CAGES, JOE?!

Posted by: pookysgirl, quoting your favorite President at December 12, 2025 04:37 PM (Wt5PA)

21 Ex pui restact al phempt

IYKYK.

Posted by: Nazdar at December 12, 2025 04:37 PM (NcvvS)

22 14 Enjoy! Hasta pronto!

Posted by: gp at December 12, 2025 04:37 PM (GHIyr)

23 Only Biden Favored Open Borders While the Rest of the Democrat Party Opposed It

Finally. Someone explains why the Democrats are so determined to prevent Trump from dealing with the illegals. They're just so gosh darn dug in on opposing a President who wants to flood the country with illegals that they haven't noticed that an election happened.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 12, 2025 04:37 PM (ExV1e)

24 That's why we have the Prickster "protecting people of Illinois", of course.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 04:37 PM (krQz2)

25 "Immigration" != "Illegal Immigration"

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 04:38 PM (xcxpd)

26 When all the dems were screaming to tear down Trump's wall, it was all in Joe Biden's voice. They're just well meaning ventriloquists.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 12, 2025 04:38 PM (n5tGW)

27 Did anyone bring a spray can of Troll-B-Gone?

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 04:38 PM (ZxPkt)

28 Finally. Someone explains why the Democrats are so determined to prevent Trump from dealing with the illegals. They're just so gosh darn dug in on opposing a President who wants to flood the country with illegals that they haven't noticed that an election happened.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 12, 2025 04:37 PM (ExV1e)
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They've only thought to the step of clearing other Dems.

Now comes the media demanding you to not be so petty as to expect to make sense out of the rest of it.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 04:38 PM (krQz2)

29
So, I guess the take-away is...


SENILITY

The Retard Strength of Political Persuasions


Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2025 04:38 PM (iJfKG)

30 Trump has been in office for 11 months now and the DHS is reporting that 2.5 million illegals have self deported. biden let in an estimated 10-15 million illegals in his time in office.


If Trump continues to make 2.5 million illegals self deport every year he has left as president that means that he would be on the extreme low end of getting rid of what joe biden let into the country illegally.


That math ain't mathin because there were 20+ million illegals already in the country.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 12, 2025 04:39 PM (0N4FZ)

31 14 I finally finished.

I'm taking the rest of the week off.
Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 04:34 PM (1wjle)

We'll miss you.
Have some bourbon.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 04:39 PM (xcxpd)

32 I finally finished.

I'm taking the rest of the week off.
Posted by: ace

Have a great weekend, Ace.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 04:39 PM (77rzZ)

33 Runner- here is your will owed answer:
329 I accepted the role of paranormal guide for multiple reasons. As a Mechanical Engineer, I found I was able to use my skillset in tactical as well as creative ways. I was able to design, build and test new equipment for reaching the great beyond, as well as repair and understand current technology with an eye toward improvements. I was also able to work on listening comprehension as Ghosts may communicate quietly or using non traditional methods. I challenged myself to be open to new ideas, and not discount even improbable possibilities.
Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 04:38 PM (ZdaMQ)

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 04:39 PM (ZdaMQ)

34 https://x.com/BlueBoxDave/status/
1999478136745132095

@BlueBoxDave
“I went to Minnesota expecting to find anger over billions of dollars stolen from kids, but I can only find what I find, and what I found was an attitude that graft, by the right people, is almost viewed as an acceptable form of reparations.”

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:39 PM (GBKbO)

35 The Times is shocked- SHOCKED!- to find that unfettered illegal immigration was allowed!

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 04:39 PM (ZxPkt)

36 Did anyone bring a spray can of Troll-B-Gone?

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 04:38 PM (ZxPkt)

*checks purse*

All I've got is Silly String.

Posted by: pookysgirl, apparently underequipped at December 12, 2025 04:40 PM (Wt5PA)

37 >27 Did anyone bring a spray can of Troll-B-Gone?

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 04:38 PM (ZxPkt)

Only a matter of time before Zippy the Pinhead sharts all over this thread too.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 12, 2025 04:40 PM (GTqXr)

38 27 Did anyone bring a spray can of Troll-B-Gone?
Posted by: Don Black
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It helps here if you have selective blindness.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 04:40 PM (WDjG6)

39 Is this the less retarded but still stupid thread?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 04:40 PM (h4uy9)

40 They can say it all they want, but anyone with eyes open can seethat the Dems prefer illegals to citizens.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 04:40 PM (+mUZM)

41 30 Trump has been in office for 11 months now and the DHS is reporting that 2.5 million illegals have self deported. biden let in an estimated 10-15 million illegals in his time in office.


If Trump continues to make 2.5 million illegals self deport every year he has left as president that means that he would be on the extreme low end of getting rid of what joe biden let into the country illegally.


That math ain't mathin because there were 20+ million illegals already in the country.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 12, 2025 04:39 PM (0N4FZ)

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That 2.5 million is only 9 months, through the end of October, and ICE increased funding takes effect in January.

Per year, it's going to be over 3 million for the first year, and ICE is going to have more feet on the ground to push more out for the final three years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:40 PM (GBKbO)

42 >>>“I went to Minnesota expecting to find anger over billions of dollars stolen from kids, but I can only find what I find, and what I found was an attitude that graft, by the right people, is almost viewed as an acceptable form of reparations.”

I've been saying this for years. There is an idea in some minority communities that they're entitled to rob and beat up white people as a form of what I call "Street reparations." Not official reparations, but reparations taken by people through "self-help."

There are BLM figures who explicitly say that blacks are entitled to commit violence against whites.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 04:41 PM (1wjle)

43 "New encyclopedia entry" ... you mean like the one about how racists were purged from the sinless Democratic Party then joined the Republican Party? That pernicious lie?

Posted by: Coki at December 12, 2025 04:41 PM (Wkrcf)

44 42 I've been saying this for years. There is an idea in some minority communities that they're entitled to rob and beat up white people as a form of what I call "Street reparations." Not official reparations, but reparations taken by people through "self-help."

There are BLM figures who explicitly say that blacks are entitled to commit violence against whites.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 04:41 PM (1wjle)

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The attitude wasn't from black people.

It was from the white residents.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:42 PM (GBKbO)

45 There are BLM figures who explicitly say that blacks are entitled to commit violence against whites.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 04:41 PM (1wjle)

That's common communist kant at least since Lenin.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 04:42 PM (h4uy9)

46 It blows my mind that a cartoon character like Bernie Sanders is given a stage to spew his genius.

Who supports this clown? WTF?

How did he escape from his rocking chair on the back porch?

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 12, 2025 04:42 PM (1zOXE)

47
Saw today Tim Watz wants more Somalians, to suck up more fraud probably
Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 04:32 PM (Ia/+0)


SOMALIANS
The Cat's Head Biscuits For Sopping Up Tim Walz' Brown Eye Gravy of Fraud and Corruption

Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2025 04:42 PM (iJfKG)

48 > "New encyclopedia entry" ... you mean like the one about how racists were purged from the sinless Democratic Party then joined the Republican Party? That pernicious lie?

There was a Southern Strategy you guise!
One whole Dixiecrat switched sides, you guise!

Posted by: bonhomme at December 12, 2025 04:43 PM (Yp6az)

49 The attitude wasn't from black people.

It was from the white residents.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger

Don't call the cops if they break into your house. They deserve your stuff.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 04:43 PM (MGB5H)

50 Fen, if still here and your son is looking at Lab Tech jobs, another parallel job would be Sterile Processing Technician - something in the "sorta connected to science and a lab" job that can parlay into bigger things...most places will train you after hiring and get you certified (b/c the pay is subpar) and licensed. Hospitals, medical offices, etc usually all have a constant need...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2025 04:43 PM (tOcjL)

51 >The attitude wasn't from black people.

It was from the white residents.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:42 PM (GBKbO)

Minnysoda stupid trumps Minnysoda nice.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 12, 2025 04:44 PM (GTqXr)

52 It's kind of funny, in a maddening way, how often democrats throw their own kind under the bus. The scum who shot Kirk probably thought he was going to be praised as a hero, instead the media and their followers insisted he was a republican.

Posted by: fb at December 12, 2025 04:44 PM (D/cuw)

53 😂 that's great Piper!

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 04:44 PM (g47mK)

54 @BlueBoxDave
“I went to Minnesota expecting to find anger over billions of dollars stolen from kids, but I can only find what I find, and what I found was an attitude that graft, by the right people, is almost viewed as an acceptable form of reparations.”
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Easy enough to change that--frame clawing back that stolen taxpayer money from the thieves as a treasure hunt for people that report it and find the miscreants. And put on the posters of the wanted thieves--Dead or Alive reward paid.

It is also enough to consider that we apply culturally appropriate punishments to these thieves. Lopping off arms will make them easier to identify in a crowd and yet be culturally sensitive to our differences. Somalis get to pick, either adopt our ways or we treat you like you were back home in Somalia.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 04:44 PM (WDjG6)

55 And now the New York Times debases itself

i dunno. in order to debase yourself, you gotta be based to start with.

Posted by: anachronda at December 12, 2025 04:45 PM (v3pYe)

56 >>It was from the white residents.

ah yeah. I want these people forced to wear badges declaring that they grant permission to be beaten and robbed on the street. They defend this, they should mark themselves publicly as the designated victims of street violence. And the rest of us who don't consent should be left alone.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 04:45 PM (1wjle)

57 Think about this:

The leftists in all of the western countries have been doing two interrelated things for several years, if not decades.

1. Trying their hardest to emasculate men, decrying toxic masculinity, deriding those who want to serve their country (unless they are a cross dresser), insisting that women are girl bosses and that men are irrelevant, and doping boys to prevent them from behaving like boys.

2. Importing as fast as they are able a large population of military age men from countries where women are seen as property and free for the taking, and using police powers to ensure that these men are not punished for whatever they do.

I think it is pretty obvious what their plan is.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2025 04:45 PM (0U5gm)

58 The scum who shot Kirk probably thought he was going to be praised as a hero, instead the media and their followers insisted he was a republican.
Posted by: fb at December 12, 2025 04:44 PM (D/cuw)

In a way they did both. They praised the murder, but said he was one of ours. Its kind of funny when you think about it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 04:45 PM (h4uy9)

59 52 It's kind of funny, in a maddening way, how often democrats throw their own kind under the bus. The scum who shot Kirk probably thought he was going to be praised as a hero, instead the media and their followers insisted he was a republican.
Posted by: fb
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Eh, they are hardened and unrepentant lies, as the good book says, there is no truth in them.

Troon furry lover was very probably the very type to moby conservative websites. Ditto for Mangione the dickless.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 04:46 PM (WDjG6)

60 >And the rest of us who don't consent should be left alone.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 04:45 PM (1wjle)

Narrator, "You won't be left alone."

Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 12, 2025 04:46 PM (GTqXr)

61 I finally finished.

I'm taking the rest of the week off.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 04:34 PM (1wjle)

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Get back here and refile all your TPS reports with the new covers!


And have you finished the WENUS?

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 04:47 PM (Riz8t)

62 The media really does use Orwell as an instructional manual…. They are despicable

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 12, 2025 04:48 PM (xT8gx)

63 I'm taking the rest of the week off.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 04:34 PM (1wjle)

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You'll have to leave some for the rest of us.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 04:49 PM (krQz2)

64 Meanwhile Trump has fairly quietly militarized much of the southern border. Militarized is the FNM term, but the Dept of interior has turned over control of much of the land at the border to various military branches.

I don't know if this means the Navy, AF, et al are going to have bomber and A-10 practice areas on the border, but it would be fun. Throw up some muliti lingual signs "danger, bombing and strafing practice area" and have at it.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 12, 2025 04:49 PM (hhkIi)

65 @BlueBoxDave
“I went to Minnesota expecting to find anger over billions of dollars stolen from kids, but I can only find what I find, and what I found was an attitude that graft, by the right people, is almost viewed as an acceptable form of reparations.”
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Normal Person: We fed the Somalians and they killed our troops, then brought them over here because we felt so bad for them. Why do we need to pay them reparations?

Average Minnesotan Genius: They're black, pay them.

Normal Person: All blacks look alike to you?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 04:49 PM (Dv3i1)

66 And have you finished the WENUS?
Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 04:47 PM (Riz8t)

I thought that was Chandler Bing who was all concerned with the WENUS…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 12, 2025 04:49 PM (xT8gx)

67 Only Biden Favored Open Borders While the Rest of the Democrat Party Opposed It

I can hardly wait to read the NYT's revisionism w/r/t the Demonic Party's love affair with keeping illegal aliens, terrorists, murderers, child sex traffickers, drug cartels free and roaming the American streets.

And how shooting cops and assassinating conservatives is Pro American.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 04:49 PM (pawvM)

68 And the rest of us who don't consent should be left alone.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 04:45 PM (1wjle)

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"That's not how any of this works." - Cultural Consensus

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 04:50 PM (krQz2)

69
Don't call the cops if they break into your house. They deserve your stuff.
Posted by: BruceWayne

The fuck if they do. Bif wishes a motherfucker would.

In other news, made it home from Orlando. Their traffic engineers need to be hauled out and put into stock so normies can fling poo at them for the fuckery they inflict on Orlando.

Did the Big Dummy ask for a smoke after his 'collection'?

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 12, 2025 04:50 PM (QVmho)

70
All while Gavin Newsom's own X account is bragging that Newsom got free healthcare for illegals.

It's almost like they have a messaging problem.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

==============

That video of him from earlier is ... "Gavinesque" is the only word I can come up with. "It's really bad that Biden let in all those illegals, whom I am proudly supporting with free healthcare." Like, if it's bad to let them in, isn't it also kind of bad to keep them in?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 04:50 PM (1N/bM)

71 Couple shots of cognac for happy hour

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 04:50 PM (Ia/+0)

72 If you were a space alien able to observe all of this from a distance it would be hilarious.

Unfortunately for us earthlings it's dangerously retarded.

Posted by: ballistic at December 12, 2025 04:50 PM (3BwY8)

73 "Saw today Tim Watz wants more Somalians, to suck up more fraud probably"

10% for the big prancer guy?

Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2025 04:51 PM (vbXSk)

74 And have you finished the WENUS?
Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 04:47 PM (Riz8t)

I thought that was Chandler Bing who was all concerned with the WENUS…


The WENUS is universal.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 04:51 PM (Riz8t)

75 I spent most of my childhood in MN when it literally was maybe the nicest, cleanest, state, now it is getting everything it deserves because they have embraced some stupid, smug belief that they are better than everybody somehow.

It is run through the state,white collar, blue collar, everybody.

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:51 PM (Nmj5t)

76 Some days I wish I was born 50 years earlier. Like today.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2025 04:52 PM (9ipOP)

77 I have come to the conclusion with all these fkin judges letting criminals out free and clear that do your justice and let them do what they want if they catch you

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 04:52 PM (Ia/+0)

78 Some days I wish I was born 50 years earlier. Like today.
Posted by: San


so youre from 2075?

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:53 PM (Nmj5t)

79 What is the WENUS?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 04:53 PM (77rzZ)

80 I think it is pretty obvious what their plan is.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

A pretty sad video is out on X where a couple of local thugs are roughing up and attempting to steal from a woman tourist, one has a knife. The male tourist (husband or boyfriend) is seen in the background looking like he wants to intervene but is obviously to scared and seen stepping forward then back, completely ineffectual. A couple of local men eventually intervene and fight off the attackers.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 04:54 PM (Dv3i1)

81 It's at least plausible that Democrats believed throwing open the gates the third world would lock in the hispanic vote. As Universalists, it would never occur to them to go out and discuss the question with actual hispanics. As an aside, that rationale shows how transactional the Dems view their relationship with blacks - if hispanics outnumber blacks, the Dems will not hesitate to adopt policies favoring the former at the expense of the latter.

Posted by: Oglebay at December 12, 2025 04:54 PM (2ap+5)

82 Whig, are you out there?

What do you think about this idea I've been mulling over:
The "Positivist fallacy".

I think Positivism, both of Comte and Vienna School, has met enough dead-ends--and really formalistic self-reference problems--that it should be able to be dispensed with unless the writer can produce a new wrinkle.

Otherwise, we must only restrict ourselves to the objective traits of objective entities, which leaves Science little to offer as well.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 04:54 PM (krQz2)

83 I have more pressing concerns, like which pre-dinner cocktail to order; sazarac or martini (on the wet side)

Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 12, 2025 04:54 PM (GTqXr)

84 San Franpsycho then you would be long gone and miss this wild ride

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 04:54 PM (Ia/+0)

85 ah yeah. I want these people forced to wear badges declaring that they grant permission to be beaten and robbed on the street. They defend this, they should mark themselves publicly as the designated victims of street violence. And the rest of us who don't consent should be left alone.

Shouldn't be too hard. Get the Narrative around, like C19 Narratives that Trump and the War Criminal Hegseth have made a biological weapon that targets Trump's enemies.

The secret antidote/vax is massive amounts of colloidal silver.

Massive.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 04:54 PM (pawvM)

86
Some days I wish I was born 50 years earlier. Like today.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

You'd still be here, one of us. Only 29er-er.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 12, 2025 04:55 PM (QVmho)

87 Some days I wish I was born 50 years earlier. Like today.

Posted by: San Franpsycho



I'm confused. Today isn't 50 years ago.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2025 04:55 PM (0U5gm)

88
Some people did some things.
Mistakes may have been made in the enthusiasm of the moment.
What difference, at this point, does it make?
Old news.
Time to move on.

Posted by: MSM at December 12, 2025 04:55 PM (0sNs1)

89 What is the WENUS?
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 04:53 PM (77rzZ)

I don’t honestly know but there’s a scene in the old sitcom Friends where Chandler is at work he’s some kind of boss in a number crunching observation and he yells at his staff that he’s not happy with the WENUS….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 12, 2025 04:56 PM (xT8gx)

90 I'm confused. Today isn't 50 years ago.
Posted by: Thomas



hes from the future

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:56 PM (Nmj5t)

91 Exactly ace. The Dems and their propaganda ministers are providing cover for the Dems in 26 and 28. Everything will be memory holed with Biden. Of course his minions will still be allowed back, Sullivan , Blinken , Rice etc. . Oh and Barky had nothing to do with it, he's still the Light Bringer

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2025 04:56 PM (D+mpw)

92 And have you finished the WENUS?
Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 04:47 PM (Riz8t)

I thought that was Chandler Bing who was all concerned with the WENUS…

The WENUS is universal.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 04:51 PM (Riz8t)
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Pete Bootyjudge is very concerned about the allocation of the WENUS.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 04:56 PM (krQz2)

93 I'm wishing 50 years later and watch Europe under the Caliphat
Thst some misery to see

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 04:56 PM (Ia/+0)

94 Yeah. It BS.

There's clips of congress/senate folks saying to pass Biden's recommendations to fix the border.

Save those. They're going to disappear.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at December 12, 2025 04:56 PM (ItWcy)

95 I don’t honestly know but there’s a scene in the old sitcom Friends where Chandler is at work he’s some kind of boss in a number crunching observation and he yells at his staff that he’s not happy with the WENUS….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

Ah. So, like "TPS Reports" then.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 04:57 PM (77rzZ)

96
Democrats; They all look like clowns to me.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 04:57 PM (imZqa)

97 You cannot hate the media enough.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 12, 2025 04:57 PM (wtvvX)

98 Well, I have done my arguing with people on the internet today. And I have learned that you should not have kids without considering "managed risk" so that your kids don't wind up on the street and that we need quality, not quantity, when it comes to children. All of it prefaced by blaming old people for the cost of housing.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 04:58 PM (+mUZM)

99 So San Franpsycho would wish was born in 1915

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 04:58 PM (Ia/+0)

100 It was on Friends: WENUS: Weekly Estimated Net Usage Statistics.

It was a way that Friends could make penis double entendres.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 04:58 PM (krQz2)

101 What is the WENUS?
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 04:53 PM

It was just a gag on the show "Friends" where they had Chandler working in an "Office Space" situation. WENUS and TPS Cover Sheets are interchangeable.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at December 12, 2025 04:58 PM (CSQvy)

102 Well, I have done my arguing with people on the internet today. And I have learned that you should not have kids without considering "managed risk" so that your kids don't wind up on the street and that we need quality, not quantity, when it comes to children. All of it prefaced by blaming old people for the cost of housing.
Posted by: No


boomers have ruined everything

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:58 PM (V0RQu)

103 You cannot hate the media enough.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 12, 2025 04:57 PM (wtvvX)

This times one billion

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 12, 2025 04:59 PM (xT8gx)

104 Newspapers consume a great deal of chemicals, wood pulp and energy to be produced. Shut them down to save the planet.
Nothing would be lost.

Posted by: LGBTQ+POC, ANTI RACIST HERO at December 12, 2025 04:59 PM (PHmbR)

105 Well, I have done my arguing with people on the internet today. And I have learned that you should not have kids without considering "managed risk" so that your kids don't wind up on the street and that we need quality, not quantity, when it comes to children. All of it prefaced by blaming old people for the cost of housing.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 04:58 PM (+mUZM)
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Yup. That's how we have a society that can argue these things, is that we all got here by carefully-considered Pro/Con lists.

* rolls eyes *

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 04:59 PM (krQz2)

106 You cannot hate the media enough.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 12, 2025 04:57 PM (wtvvX)

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That is a unfounded slander!

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:00 PM (krQz2)

107 “Many Biden officials came to view Mr. Abbott’s campaign (busing illegals to blue cities) as the point Democrats lost the debate,” The Times notes.”

What debate?! Did the Dems have a debate with somebody? Not with Americans! No, they tried to foist a bunch of aliens on America for extra votes, and media scum like you at the NYT did their best to help them!

I gotcher debate right here, assholes!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at December 12, 2025 05:00 PM (FpP3s)

108 102 Well, I have done my arguing with people on the internet today. And I have learned that you should not have kids without considering "managed risk" so that your kids don't wind up on the street and that we need quality, not quantity, when it comes to children. All of it prefaced by blaming old people for the cost of housing.
Posted by: No


boomers have ruined everything
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:58 PM (V0RQu
Take them to a good church.
-a boomer

Posted by: Eromero at December 12, 2025 05:00 PM (o2ZRX)

109 And that is why I no longer care if young people can find jobs or buy houses. Enjoy being a minority in your own country.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 05:00 PM (+mUZM)

110
I'm halfway through the article and it's stamped all over with "political." A political crisis, a political disaster, political chaos. Political opposition was the danger.

Nowhere (yet) does the Times consider the actual danger and damage done to the country by a massive population of illegal aliens, many of whom were violent criminals with criminal intent when they crashed the border.

Nowhere do they consider whether getting rid of them now is a good idea.

Still reading...

At least in the excerpt, but I can scarcely believe I'll find this stuff if I read the whole article.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 05:00 PM (1N/bM)

111 Enjoy being a minority in your own country.
Posted by: Notsot


that is not the fault of young uns, that is the fault of boomers, literally

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:01 PM (V0RQu)

112 And that is why I no longer care if young people can find jobs or buy houses. Enjoy being a minority in your own country.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 05:00 PM (+mUZM)
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White supremacy hasn't been all that it was hyped to be.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:02 PM (krQz2)

113
*checks purse*

All I've got is Silly String.
Posted by: pookysgirl


Are you going to be on Let's Make a Deal?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2025 05:03 PM (pkeXY)

114 I'm not sure that he's considered that the people turning out kids in quantity can take everything away from the people of quality. It's just odd to have to have discussions like this.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 05:03 PM (+mUZM)

115 And that is why I no longer care if young people can find jobs or buy houses. Enjoy being a minority in your own country.

I like the retards here who think "boomer" is the term for illegal aliens.

Replace "boomer" with "illegal aliens" or "Democrats" and it makes a whole lot more sense.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 05:03 PM (9s47C)

116
Wow, that article is chock-full of signs of the civil war between the new radical socialists and the establishment Dems. “They were a little too sensitive to criticisms from the left,” Ms. Muñoz said [of advisers who wanted to deter migrants].

Heh-heh, meet your babies: the Red Guard. Good luck passing your purity tests, because these people don't care about your time-earned "wisdom" and "experience."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 05:03 PM (1N/bM)

117 Maybe not 1915, like 1925 would be good

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2025 05:03 PM (9ipOP)

118 I think Positivism, both of Comte and Vienna School, has met enough dead-ends--and really formalistic self-reference problems--that it should be able to be dispensed with unless the writer can produce a new wrinkle.

Otherwise, we must only restrict ourselves to the objective traits of objective entities, which leaves Science little to offer as well.
Posted by: Axeman
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Eh, I am frankly rusty on epistemology as I haven't taught methods course in a long while. But positivism is closely aligned with the age of Reason and materialism and subject to the same limits. Our reasoning ability is always less than perfect because we are meat puppets and we will never have omniscience. That goes for AI as it is a human tool, not sentient so far, and thus subject to the limits of its makers in reasoning and knowledge.

That being said, I was always a pragmatist and probabilistic type of empiricist. Same as the old paradox of Q: Who shaved the Spanish Barber--A: follow him around and find out.

There are always propositions not amenable to empirical analysis (and thus positivist tests) due to bad data, impossible to prove or disprove, etc. But some are to a degree.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 05:03 PM (WDjG6)

119
And that is why I no longer care if young people can find jobs or buy houses. Enjoy being a minority in your own country.
Posted by: Notsothoreau
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White supremacy hasn't been all that it was hyped to be.
Posted by: Axeman

I'd truly like my share of the white colonialist privledge.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 12, 2025 05:03 PM (QVmho)

120 Exactly ace. The Dems and their propaganda ministers are providing cover for the Dems in 26 and 28. Everything will be memory holed with Biden.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2025 04:56 PM (D+mpw)
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One thing you can say about the Democrat-media complex, they keep trying to make the Memory-hole happen.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:04 PM (krQz2)

121 I can't H8 the media enough because they are the Marxists Propaganda Ministry

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 05:04 PM (Ia/+0)

122 And the rest of us who don't consent should be left alone.
Posted by: ace


That’s why So many of us carry. They will NOT leave us alone. So.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 12, 2025 05:04 PM (W2Pud)

123 I like the retards here who think "boomer" is the term for illegal aliens.

Replace "boomer" with "illegal aliens" or "Democrats" and it makes a whole lot more sense.

It is gratuitous fun to smack boomers around, mostly because they are so snowflaky about it, but we would not have them thar illegals here but for boomer voters.

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:05 PM (fHLjf)

124 Sorry about the slow reply Axeman but I was outside tossing a ball for my doggie to play fetch. The other one was simply basking in the warm sun and watching for deer passing through the back yard.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 05:05 PM (WDjG6)

125 Who would have guessed? He promised a surge and an open border. He got elected. He delivered what he promised. Sometimes doing the right thing isn’t popular.

Dems shoot themselves in the foot way too often. Why do democrats continue to think that soft on immigration approach is necessary to keep Latino support?

It was literally trump and Republicans who stopped a border security bill. Democrats want to fix immigration. Punishing employers of undocumented immigrants (while granting the right amount of temporary visas) would be the best route. 

Also stopping mega corporations like Blackstone from mass house buying, and reasonable limit to properties owned by smaller landlords or a higher tax of some sort would help keep housing costs reasonable.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 12, 2025 05:05 PM (JCZqz)

126 that is not the fault of young uns, that is the fault of boomers, literally

that is not the fault of young uns, that is the fault of boomers illegal aliens, literally

- or even more accurately -

that is not the fault of young uns, that is the fault of boomers Democrats, literally

Its the retards who are taking the Democrats off the hook and deflecting their crimes towards the Generation that voted for Reagan once they came of age.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 05:06 PM (9s47C)

127 Also stopping mega corporations like Blackstone from mass house buying, and reasonable limit to properties owned by smaller landlords or a higher tax of some sort would help keep housing costs reasonable.




so socialism?

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:07 PM (fHLjf)

128
Nowhere (yet) does the Times consider the actual danger and damage done to the country by a massive population of illegal aliens, many of whom were violent criminals with criminal intent when they crashed the border.
--------

That is the case with every Democrat stance. Their actions are driven by socio-political self-interest, rather than the well-being of the country. True locally as it is nationally.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2025 05:07 PM (XeU6L)

129 It's the fault of Boomers only because you now want to make it cover three decades instead of two. It's all made up shit. Your birth year does not mean you are twinsies with those born in the same year. People born twenty years apart did not have the same upbringing. It's generational astrology. And mark my words, when the Boomers are gone, it will all be the Millenials fault.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 05:07 PM (+mUZM)

130 The New York Times?

The same New York Times that STILL hasn't returned the Pulitzer Prize they earned for Walter Duranty's utterly false reporting from Russia that his the Holodomor, the intentional famine that murdered 5 million Ukrainians, from the world?

Yeah, fuck those fucking fuckers.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 12, 2025 05:07 PM (/RHNq)

131 What is the WENUS?
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 04:53 PM

It was just a gag on the show "Friends" where they had Chandler working in an "Office Space" situation. WENUS and TPS Cover Sheets are interchangeable.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpUxn0tpLes

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 05:07 PM (Riz8t)

132
Maybe not 1915, like 1925 would be good
Posted by: San Franpsycho

1903 would be good. Too young for woodrow wilson's great war. But old enough to buy at&t at its lowest during the crash. I could sell off union pacific in 1939, and purchase general electric in 1947

Posted by: BifBewalski - at December 12, 2025 05:07 PM (QVmho)

133 There are always propositions not amenable to empirical analysis (and thus positivist tests) due to bad data, impossible to prove or disprove, etc. But some are to a degree.
Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 05:03 PM (WDjG6)

Sounds like you might agree with Karl Popper, Whig. I like him myself

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 12, 2025 05:07 PM (xT8gx)

134 This is an essential component of their "of course we support border control but Trump's immigration enforcement is too much, too fast and hurts too many."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 05:07 PM (HXT0k)

135
I wonder what Dr. Jill thinks of all this -- the dotard she tried to push into a second term is now deemed the reason why Trump won.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 05:08 PM (1N/bM)

136 that is not the fault of young uns, that is the fault of boomers Democrats, literally

Its the retards who are taking the Democrats off the hook and deflecting their crimes towards the Generation that voted for Reagan once they came of age.


as fond of Reagan as I am he was the guy who was giving amnesty to millions of illegals, he was voted in by boomers

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:08 PM (fHLjf)

137 Bury his head in Wilmington and his body in Scranton. Wait, what do you mean he's not quite dead yet?

Posted by: The Cemetery Sexton at December 12, 2025 05:08 PM (oftw2)

138 Now for the cutest thing in the world of cats:

My big tom killed a mouse last night before I brought him in, so I let him in and gave him a treat for being brave, and left the mouse out back.

This morning I picked it up and tossed it over the fence for the neighbor's chickens. This afternoon, the youngest kitten (6 months?) found it and played haki-mouse with it, and then when she saw me watching came trotting back with it proud as can be.
So she got a good treat for being a good huntress and I tossed the remains into the compost heap.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 05:08 PM (rbvCR)

139 a higher tax of some sort would help keep housing costs reasonable.

Bwahahaha, ha ha ha, I can't breathe, bwahahahaha
Higher taxes always bring your rent costs down, bwahahahaha

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 12, 2025 05:09 PM (n5tGW)

140 There are always propositions not amenable to empirical analysis (and thus positivist tests) due to bad data, impossible to prove or disprove, etc. But some are to a degree.
Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 05:03 PM (WDjG6)
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Well, it's taken as typical that Karl Popper, the synthesizer of the falsification demarcation of Science fell out of favor with and eventually debunked Carnap-ian positivism. (As Rudolph Carnap fathered the Vienna School).

After all, "Turing Machines" can never be instantiated if, by definition they have "unlimited tape". (Or no defined upper-bound, as I prefer).

So, how can Turing talk about machines that can't exist, right?

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:09 PM (krQz2)

141 121 I can't H8 the media enough because they are the Marxists Propaganda Ministry
Posted by: Skip

I already have high blood pressure so I simply ignore the 'news' and prefer alternative sources. If you use something like RT, Hindustan Times, and some others that probably put people on a government shit list somewhere plus X, and a few blogs, you can reasonably be knowledgeable nowadays.

I know how to find stuff, it is just I no longer want to unless it is relevant to conversations here. YMMV.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 05:09 PM (WDjG6)

142 Pot o split pea soup on the stove -- first time attempt and 1 hour in

Posted by: A dude in MI at December 12, 2025 05:09 PM (/6GbT)

143 I think Positivism, both of Comte and Vienna School, has met enough dead-ends--and really formalistic self-reference problems--that it should be able to be dispensed with unless the writer can produce a new wrinkle.

Otherwise, we must only restrict ourselves to the objective traits of objective entities, which leaves Science little to offer as well.
Posted by: Axeman
__________

You cannot derive an objective moral code from Positivism or Science. All roads lead to nihilism.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 12, 2025 05:10 PM (XvL8K)

144 "Joe Biden shit our pants!"
-- Democrats

It's almost plausible.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls



That would be a fun bumpersticker.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 12, 2025 05:11 PM (/RHNq)

145 *checks purse*

All I've got is Silly String.
Posted by: pookysgirl


Good, you can go on point, looking for trip-wires.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 05:11 PM (rbvCR)

146 I have always found split pea soup disappointing. If youre going to make some pot of something, do chili

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:11 PM (fHLjf)

147 64 "I don't know if this means the Navy, AF, et al are going to have bomber and A-10 practice areas on the border, but it would be fun."

Ever been to Yuma, Az? I pulled to the side of the road to watch the A-10s doing strafing runs. Could hear the BBBRRFFFZZT real good!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at December 12, 2025 05:11 PM (FpP3s)

148 It was just a gag on the show "Friends" where they had Chandler working in an "Office Space" situation. WENUS and TPS Cover Sheets are interchangeable.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpUxn0tpLes
Posted by: Archimedes at

WENUS-week ending net usage statistics
ANUS-annual net usage statistics

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 05:11 PM (MGB5H)

149 Sounds like you might agree with Karl Popper, Whig. I like him myself
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 12, 2025 05:07 PM (xT8gx)
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I like Popper, too. Except that he instigated this whole "Open society" concept that Soros has advanced.

Popper was an early friend of the Vienna Circle.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:11 PM (krQz2)

150 I must have missed a step. Why do we Americans owe reparations to Somalians who have only been in the US for 15 minutes?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 05:11 PM (viF8m)

151 as fond of Reagan as I am he was the guy who was giving amnesty to millions of illegals, he was voted in by boomers

I see, you are a Carter and Mondale fan.

Explain to me when X came of Age they voted for Clinton, and that is OK, or when Mills came of Age they kept voting for Obama and Biden.

But no, blame the Generation that kept voting the least damaging branch of the Uniparty.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 05:11 PM (nCgQz)

152 That is the case with every Democrat stance. Their actions are driven by socio-political self-interest, rather than the well-being of the country. True locally as it is nationally.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

Think of all the state and local government jobs we created to assist migrants to steal from the taxpayers!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 05:12 PM (Dv3i1)

153 I must have missed a step. Why do we Americans owe reparations to Somalians who have only been in the US for 15 minutes?
Posted by: JackS


we have no obligations to anybody

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:12 PM (fHLjf)

154
It was literally trump and Republicans who stopped a border security bill. Democrats want to fix immigration. Punishing employers of undocumented immigrants (while granting the right amount of temporary visas) would be the best route.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions

==============

Democrats want to fix immigration = Democrats want universal amnesty.

employers of undocumented immigrants = the evil corporations [hence Dems' call for "punishment"]

the right amount of temporary visas = 99% of applicants

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 05:12 PM (1N/bM)

155 You cannot hate the media enough.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 12, 2025 04:57 PM

To paraphrase Val Kilmer's Doc Holliday. Yup...I hate 'em.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 05:12 PM (jdPY0)

156 Heh-heh, meet your babies: the Red Guard. Good luck passing your purity tests, because these people don't care about your time-earned "wisdom" and "experience."
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
-------

I regret not buying red diaper futures back when Clinton was elected.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2025 05:12 PM (XeU6L)

157 The leaves on my oak trees are all turning rusty. Nothing is made to last anymore

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2025 05:13 PM (0U5gm)

158 150 I must have missed a step. Why do we Americans owe reparations to Somalians who have only been in the US for 15 minutes?
Posted by: JackStraw

All blacks look alike to Minnesota DFLers. See @65

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 05:13 PM (Dv3i1)

159 Because the Boomers kept the Somalias from buying houses, duh

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 05:13 PM (+mUZM)

160 I see, you are a Carter and Mondale fan.

Explain to me when X came of Age they voted for Clinton, and that is OK, or when Mills came of Age they kept voting for Obama and Biden.

But no, blame the Generation that kept voting the least damaging branch of the Uniparty.


and, does not mean they did not vote him in and it happened before younger gens? why is this hard?

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:13 PM (fHLjf)

161 150 I must have missed a step. Why do we Americans owe reparations to Somalians who have only been in the US for 15 minutes?
Posted by: JackStraw

Haven't they suffered enough!?! They're Black, they're poor, they're oppressed, and it's all because we colonized their country and destroyed it with our slave trade!!! I bet all the mining we did left lead in their water, which is why they're all neurodivergent.

Posted by: Lefty riddled with white guilt at December 12, 2025 05:14 PM (JCZqz)

162 Because the Boomers kept the Somalias from buying houses, duh
Posted by: No


boomers voted for obama who brought the somalis here

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:14 PM (fHLjf)

163 Big Brother is rewriting history and deleting old files and airbrushing old photos as we watch them do it.

Librarian: We are confused again here today. This is embarrassing. It's embarrassing to misplace things.

Jonathan E.: Misplaced some data?

Librarian: Hmmm.
[looks at a computer punch card]

Librarian: The whole of the 13th century. Misplaced the computers, several conventional computers. We can't find them. We're always moving things around, getting organized, my assistants and I. This - this is Zero's fault - Zero, he's the world's file cabinet. Pity, poor old 13th century.
[pause]
Librarian: Well, come along now, you want to get started, don't you?

Jonathan E.: Yes, sir.

Librarian: [takes Jonathan's coat and hat and puts them aside before they go to the room with Zero in it] This way! Now, we've lost those computers with all of the 13th century in them. Not much in the century, just Dante and a few corrupt Popes, but it's so distracting and annoying!

Posted by: Rollerball (1975) That's 50 years ago for those of you in Rio Linda at December 12, 2025 05:14 PM (wVcYX)

164 So, how can Turing talk about machines that can't exist, right?
Posted by: Axeman
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At some point, as an empiricist, you have to turn away from edge cases. Interesting from a philosophical viewpoint like whether we are in a simulated universe or inside a black hole but I have enough to chew on day to day without worrying about the infinite.

Popper was an interesting case as he was a bridge from the older Age of Reason cult to the newer problems that came from areas of study that rely upon really bad data--sociology, history, political science, and even economics. Never was particularly relevant in theology, cosmology, or other fields, perhaps even quantum mechanics, where we simply cannot positively prove or disprove our theories. The observational equivalence problem also appears as you would find in studies of relativity. Simply put, our frame of reference determines our reality.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 05:14 PM (WDjG6)

165 149 Sounds like you might agree with Karl Popper, Whig. I like him myself
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 12, 2025 05:07 PM (xT8gx)
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I like Popper, too. Except that he instigated this whole "Open society" concept that Soros has advanced.

Popper was an early friend of the Vienna Circle.
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I think Popper originated the whole "we must be intolerant of intolerance" crap that the left all believes now. I understand where he was coming from, being a Jew who fled the Nazis and also feared Communism, but that idea smells like rancid milk now.

I've toyed with Paul Feyerabend's ideas on science, mostly because my teaching assignment includes AP Psychology (which is mostly a joke 'science'), and I like to shock people by saying that falsification doesn't matter if everyone is testing stupid questions (and almost all social science is retarded at this point).

Posted by: The Lower Depths at December 12, 2025 05:15 PM (UdiE9)

166 Pot o split pea soup on the stove -- first time attempt and 1 hour in
Posted by: A dude in MI at December 12, 2025 05:09 PM (/6GbT)


I like it when I grate a carrot into it. It adds sweetness that can offset some of the faint bitterness of the peas.
Upper level pea soup is when you mix in both green and yellow peas, and don't try to blend it smooth

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 05:15 PM (rbvCR)

167 You cannot derive an objective moral code from Positivism or Science. All roads lead to nihilism.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 12, 2025 05:10 PM (XvL8K)
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That's because you cannot derive a moral code from the particulars of instances of moralizing behavior.

Moralizing behavior is inherent in men who wants to control what he or she cannot outside their own physical enforcement. I must enlist societal "norms".

Western Civilization introduces the idea that societal norms should not necessarily be just what they are, but have a higher standard to comply with.

This is mostly alien to the pre-WC (Christian) civilization.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:15 PM (krQz2)

168 I like Popper, too. Except that he instigated this whole "Open society" concept that Soros has advanced.

Popper was an early friend of the Vienna Circle.
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:11 PM (krQz2)

I did not know that… but his falsification ideas do make a lot of sense to me

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 12, 2025 05:15 PM (xT8gx)

169 129 It's the fault of Boomers only because you now want to make it cover three decades instead of two. It's all made up shit. Your birth year does not mean you are twinsies with those born in the same year. People born twenty years apart did not have the same upbringing. It's generational astrology. And mark my words, when the Boomers are gone, it will all be the Millenials fault.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 05:07 PM (+mUZM)

But it will never be Gen X's fault because we are fucking incredible. Unlike all you other rake-stepping slap-dick monkeyschtuppers.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 12, 2025 05:15 PM (Kv5Mj)

170 50 I must have missed a step. Why do we Americans owe reparations to Somalians who have only been in the US for 15 minutes?
Posted by: JackStraw



I am willing to consider the claim for reparations, however then they are going to have to first be slaves.

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:16 PM (fHLjf)

171 146 I have always found split pea soup disappointing. If youre going to make some pot of something, do chili
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:11 PM (fHLjf)

Had a ham bone, so thought I would see if I could replicate moms - not optimistic, but hopefully something edible

Posted by: A dude in MI at December 12, 2025 05:16 PM (/6GbT)

172 166 Pot o split pea soup on the stove -- first time attempt and 1 hour in
Posted by: A dude in MI at December 12, 2025 05:09 PM (/6GbT)

I like it when I grate a carrot into it. It adds sweetness that can offset some of the faint bitterness of the peas.
Upper level pea soup is when you mix in both green and yellow peas, and don't try to blend it smooth
Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 05:15 PM (rbvCR)

There must be ham. Or bacon.

Posted by: A pork product of some kind at December 12, 2025 05:16 PM (TbWk/)

173 "There were no open borders under The AutoPen Empire, and it's a good thing there were."

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 05:16 PM (25a1J)

174 @BlueBoxDav
“I went to Minnesota expecting to find anger over billions of dollars stolen from kids, but I can only find what I find, and what I found was an attitude that graft, by the right people, is almost viewed as an acceptable form of reparations.”

Posted by: TheJamesMadison




Sharks still follow the slave trade route from Somalia, past India, through the Straits of Malacca, across the Pacific, to Los Angeles.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 12, 2025 05:16 PM (/RHNq)

175 150 I must have missed a step. Why do we Americans owe reparations to Somalians who have only been in the US for 15 minutes?
Posted by: JackStraw

Haven't they suffered enough!?! They're Black, they're poor, they're oppressed, and it's all because we colonized their country and destroyed it with our slave trade!!! I bet all the mining we did left lead in their water, which is why they're all neurodivergent.
Posted by: Lefty riddled with white guilt at December 12, 2025 05:14 PM (JCZqz)

Plus. the whole lightbulb head shape thing, the poor dears.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 12, 2025 05:16 PM (wVcYX)

176 Boomers invented split pea soup.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2025 05:17 PM (pkeXY)

177 and, does not mean they did not vote him in and it happened before younger gens? why is this hard?

The mean and median age in Congress is 53 years old. That means the Mills and X greatly outnumber Boomers.

Explain to me why you are shilling for the Democrats by taking their sins and placing it on an age group of people who voted R more than D?

Its the younger generation that is infatuated with socialism - Boomers ended the F'ing Cold War. The Younguns are surrendering to the Savages, Terrorists and Communists.

Why is that too hard for you to see?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 05:17 PM (nCgQz)

178 Sharks still follow the slave trade route from Somalia, past India, through the Straits of Malacca, across the Pacific, to Los Angeles.



now it is all intermodal

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:17 PM (fHLjf)

179 Open Borders Czar hardest hit ... Kommie-la 2028!

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 05:17 PM (25a1J)

180 I believe it was Karl Popper who first said "everybody wang chung tonight."

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 12, 2025 05:18 PM (Kv5Mj)

181 Explain to me why you are shilling for the Democrats by taking their sins and placing it on an age group of people who voted R more than D?

Its the younger generation that is infatuated with socialism - Boomers ended the F'ing Cold War. The Younguns are surrendering to the Savages, Terrorists and Communists.

Why is that too hard for you to see?
Posted by: Unknown


I guess you're here because somebody told you there would be no math?

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:18 PM (fHLjf)

182 149 Sounds like you might agree with Karl Popper, Whig. I like him myself
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

I don't dislike him personally but his view is bounded as well to his materialistic viewpoint.

The position I take is that is useful for some ways to observe and make sense of reality, but not enough to explain or even predict all of it.

In Hamlet, Shakespeare gives us the counter argument, "There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 05:18 PM (WDjG6)

183 The leaves on my oak trees are all turning rusty. Nothing is made to last anymore
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2025 05:13 PM

Rust, like the evil of Democrats, never sleeps.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 05:18 PM (jdPY0)

184 "There is an idea in some minority communities that they're entitled to rob and beat up white people as a form of what I call "Street reparations." Not official reparations, but reparations taken by people through "self-help."

There are BLM figures who explicitly say that blacks are entitled to commit violence against whites." Posted by: ace

The American blacks might believe in such "reparations", but Somalis (and others) just know theft as a way of life. If someone opens a door, you walk through and take all you can. Any lies along the way (taqiyya?) are acceptable, even praiseworthy.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2025 05:18 PM (vbXSk)

185 Yowza people. Go look at Christmas displays or debate longbows vs crossbows or something. Even if 'boomers' skew towards Ds and genX skews MAGA (and I dont know that this is so) boomers here at the HQ like BenHad, Eremero, Mike Hammer, etc etc etc are really great people so stop bashing based on date of birth, its incredibly stupid.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 12, 2025 05:18 PM (hhkIi)

186 I have always found split pea soup disappointing. If youre going to make some pot of something, do chili
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:11 PM (fHLjf)

Had a ham bone, so thought I would see if I could replicate moms - not optimistic, but hopefully something edible

Posted by: A dude in MI


I found a recipe to make pea soup in an instant pot, and it is fantastic, the best split pea soup I have ever had.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2025 05:18 PM (0U5gm)

187 Sharks still follow the slave trade route from Somalia, past India, through the Straits of Malacca, across the Pacific, to Los Angeles.



now it is all intermodal
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:17 PM (fHLjf)

Ro-Ro-'nado!

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 12, 2025 05:19 PM (wVcYX)

188 180 I believe it was Karl Popper who first said "everybody wang chung tonight."
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
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More like you wanna popper, then you take a popper. Take enough and your heart goes boom.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 05:19 PM (WDjG6)

189 Its the younger generation that is infatuated with socialism - Boomers ended the F'ing Cold War. The Younguns are surrendering to the Savages, Terrorists and Communists.



it was the boomers that brough in the savages and started indocrinating the young uns. those you are complaining about are what boomers made

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:19 PM (fHLjf)

190 I think Popper originated the whole "we must be intolerant of intolerance" crap that the left all believes now. I understand where he was coming from, being a Jew who fled the Nazis and also feared Communism, but that idea smells like rancid milk now.

Posted by: The Lower Depths at December 12, 2025 05:15 PM (UdiE9)
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I actually found out, via a scholar on Popper, that Popper himself cannot be totally blamed for this. "Popper's" writing on intolerant tolerance apparently consists of TWO footnotes in his writing.

Thus it is mainly people taking crude notions of Popper and running with it.

Definitely either Popper did not foresee (or he simply can be ignored) people moving the "intolerance" goalposts to being increasingly intolerant of viewpoints on the basis of arguing that some other viewpoint is "intolerant". Thus bootstrapping the intolerance of actually more tolerant viewpoints.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:19 PM (krQz2)

191 boomers here at the HQ like BenHad, Eremero, Mike Hammer, etc etc etc are really great people so stop bashing based on date of birth, its incredibly stupid.
Posted by: PaleRider
___

This^^^

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at December 12, 2025 05:20 PM (22p5n)

192 Had a ham bone, so thought I would see if I could replicate moms - not optimistic, but hopefully something edible

Posted by: A dude


best of luck

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:20 PM (fHLjf)

193 Boomer Derangement Syndrome is real...but not spectacular.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 05:20 PM (ESVrU)

194 You cannot derive an objective moral code from Positivism or Science. All roads lead to nihilism.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 12, 2025 05:10 PM (XvL8K)


You can argue that morality is the formal setting out of tactics within a society that improve the possibility of success and continuation of the society, and the success of the individual within the society; though none of the moral precepts can be generated through logic, analysis of them can provide the basis of ethics, which can help leverage morality to provide greater success - hopefully providing enough understanding of the situation to determine if it is a good idea to change anything.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 05:21 PM (rbvCR)

195 Shouldn't you boomers be hitting up the golden corral for that 5 o'clock special? There will be extra pudding cups tonight. Get a good night's sleep so you'll have energy for that No Kings protest.

Posted by: Vote GOP! at December 12, 2025 05:21 PM (qAgpq)

196 Had a ham bone, so thought I would see if I could replicate moms - not optimistic, but hopefully something edible
Posted by: A dude in MI at December 12, 2025 05:16 PM

I did that the other day. Still have about a quart. Damn that's good on a cold day.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 05:22 PM (jdPY0)

197 Walter Kirn summed this effort up as the Democrats "trying to establish a new encyclopedia entry" on this chapter of political history so that future voters will only be able to read this version of events.

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American History students in a couple generations will be taught by the AI Bot Agent ZinnGPT™ that Hillary Clinton won the 2016 election and gave America it's greatest economy in history ... until achieving an even greater economy during her third term from 2025-2029.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 05:22 PM (25a1J)

198 Yowza people. Go look at Christmas displays or debate longbows vs crossbows or something. Even if 'boomers' skew towards Ds and genX skews MAGA (and I dont know that this is so) boomers here at the HQ like BenHad, Eremero, Mike Hammer, etc etc etc are really great people so stop bashing based on date of birth, its incredibly stupid.
Posted by: PaleRider

Shit stirring. But as a result, people have become so attached to muh generation that it is just a label, a heuristic that is useful in some analyses but worthless in a lot of others. I used to use demographics a lot for control variables simply because they worked and had predictive power. As well as for replicability of the study. Same for other groupings like traditionalistic, individualistic, and moralistic or religion.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 05:22 PM (WDjG6)

199
Still reading the article here, you slackers. Nowhere does it consider just who was running the country, and what role sheer dementia played in Biden's acts.

"Why Mr. Biden waited so long to effectively seal the border has become one of the defining questions of his presidency." lol, the great enigma!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 05:22 PM (1N/bM)

200 Are boomers the way they are because of Vietnam?

Posted by: Oglebay at December 12, 2025 05:22 PM (2ap+5)

201 You cannot hate the media enough.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 12, 2025 04:57 PM

To paraphrase Val Kilmer's Doc Holliday. Yup...I hate 'em.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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Gen. Sherman

“If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world, but I am sure we would be getting reports from Hell before breakfast.”


Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2025 05:23 PM (XeU6L)

202 The Internet says you are wrong. Young people put Obama in office

https://tinyurl.com/cewe2sm8

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 05:23 PM (+mUZM)

203 boomers here at the HQ like BenHad, Eremero, Mike Hammer, etc etc etc are really great people so stop bashing based on date of birth, its incredibly stupid.
Posted by: PaleRider
___

This^^^
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at December 12, 2025 05:20 PM

*plants Gen X flag*

SMH Johnson is right!

Posted by: RMBS Johnson at December 12, 2025 05:24 PM (jdPY0)

204 200 Are boomers the way they are because of Vietnam?
Posted by: Oglebay at December 12, 2025 05:22 PM (2ap+5)

Vietnam was a big slap, since some of the had to be drafted or go to college (or run like cowards).

But they were also babied, catered to, and fussed over prior to 1965 like no other generation before.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 05:24 PM (xcxpd)

205 The Internet says you are wrong. Young people put Obama in office

https://tinyurl.com/cewe2sm8
Posted by: Nots


it is done then, internet says so

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:24 PM (fHLjf)

206 *plants Gen X flag*

SMH Johnson is right!
Posted by: RMBS Johnson
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lol

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at December 12, 2025 05:24 PM (22p5n)

207 I guess you're here because somebody told you there would be no math?

That's not an answer, that is a surrender.

its OK to admit you are wrong even though your generation is fully incapable of doing it.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 05:25 PM (pawvM)

208
Next-to-last sentence in the article: “The American people deserve a federal government that puts their interests first,” read Mr. Trump’s executive order [upending Biden's border policy on his first day back in office].

Gee, I wonder if he has a point there.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 05:25 PM (1N/bM)

209 163 This - this is Zero's fault - Zero, he's the world's file cabinet.

somebody must've spilled some bubble-up in the fluidics.

Posted by: anachronda at December 12, 2025 05:25 PM (v3pYe)

210 142 Pot o split pea soup on the stove -- first time attempt and 1 hour in
Posted by: A dude in MI

As with all chilis, stews, or soups, carrots are the key to success.

Posted by: The Green Grocer at December 12, 2025 05:25 PM (oftw2)

211 Western Civilization introduces the idea that societal norms should not necessarily be just what they are, but have a higher standard to comply with.

This is mostly alien to the pre-WC (Christian) civilization.
Posted by: Axeman

These higher standards that seem like oppression to minorities and immigrants are also known as White Supremacy(TM)

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 05:25 PM (Dv3i1)

212 The Internet says you are wrong. Young people put Obama in office

https://tinyurl.com/cewe2sm8
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 05:23 PM (+mUZM)
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I, for one, welcome the new internet overlords!

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:25 PM (krQz2)

213 Are boomers the way they are because of Vietnam?
Posted by: Oglebay at December 12, 2025 05:22 PM (2ap+5)

No, it was sex, drugs, and rock-n-roll!

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 12, 2025 05:26 PM (wVcYX)

214 Yowza people. Go look at Christmas displays or debate longbows vs crossbows or something. Even if 'boomers' skew towards Ds and genX skews MAGA (and I dont know that this is so) boomers here at the HQ like BenHad, Eremero, Mike Hammer, etc etc etc are really great people so stop bashing based on date of birth, its incredibly stupid.
Posted by: PaleRider

Shit stirring. But as a result, people have become so attached to muh generation that it is just a label, a heuristic that is useful in some analyses but worthless in a lot of others. I used to use demographics a lot for control variables simply because they worked and had predictive power. As well as for replicability of the study. Same for other groupings like traditionalistic, individualistic, and moralistic or religion.
Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 05:22 PM (WDjG6)

Also known as 'Shamba lamaba ding dong' Litmus Testing

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 05:26 PM (xcxpd)

215 200 Are boomers the way they are because of Vietnam?

so it once again comes down to the perfidy of the french?

Posted by: anachronda at December 12, 2025 05:26 PM (v3pYe)

216 213 Are boomers the way they are because of Vietnam?
Posted by: Oglebay at December 12, 2025 05:22 PM (2ap+5)

No, it was sex, drugs, and rock-n-roll!
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 12, 2025 05:26 PM (wVcYX)

That also helped

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 05:26 PM (xcxpd)

217 its OK to admit you are wrong even though your generation is fully incapable of doing it.
Posted by: Unknown


I am gen x , what is more, never ever have any difficulty admitting I am wrong, indeed , I am constantly considering if I am wrong about things. You should give it a whirl

Willing to be persuaded by logic and the force of reason, ever and always

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:27 PM (fHLjf)

218 My mom once threw a pot of split pea soup at her asshole boyfriend. She never did anything like that and it was very satisfying. I helped her clean it up.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 05:27 PM (+mUZM)

219 199 "Why Mr. Biden waited so long to effectively seal the border has become one of the defining questions of his presidency." lol, the great enigma!

he was probably still playing with the knobs on the autopen.

Posted by: anachronda at December 12, 2025 05:28 PM (v3pYe)

220 Also known as 'Shamba lamaba ding dong' Litmus Testing

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at
December 12, 2025 05:26 PM (xcxpd)
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How does your light shine in the Halls of Shambalamba-ding-dong?!

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:28 PM (krQz2)

221 Its the younger generation that is infatuated with socialism - Boomers ended the F'ing Cold War. The Younguns are surrendering to the Savages, Terrorists and Communists.

Why is that too hard for you to see?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 05:17 PM (nCgQz)


Boomers got told "the world is messed up but you are going to be OK"
GenX got told "the world is messed up and you are screwed"
Millenials got told "you are screwed"
GenZ is being told, "we are importing people to screw you"

Before you start slinging crap, keep this in mind.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 05:28 PM (rbvCR)

222 "Why Mr. Biden waited so long to effectively seal the border has become one of the defining questions of his presidency." lol, the great enigma!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 05:22 PM (1N/bM)

======

Journalists always make it sound like the president is doing everything alone. He is setting policy, investigating crimes, patrolling the borders, setting Fed policy, doing the masonry work on the new ballroom, ...

But since Biden's brain has been eaten by worms, I guess we will never know why they kept the border open.

Posted by: Oglebay at December 12, 2025 05:28 PM (2ap+5)

223 177 and, does not mean they did not vote him in and it happened before younger gens? why is this hard?

It means the NEED for a Leader to follow is a weakness to overcome. There is only on thing that shapes history just as it shapes the course of each Individual's lives -- the power of IDEAS.

That good ones replace the bad ones, and those at the root of it be held to pay the ultimate prices.

That any compromise between food and poison can result in nought but death.

That the only thing necessary for Evil to prosper is for good men to do absolutely nothing. Why? Because the truely evil are abetted by the Venal and the WEAK. period.

LIBS believe they can fake History and Reality just as they would fake reality (and factually did) of IceKingJOE.

Remember who did this:
"to leave now we would send a message to terrorists ...." -- Bill Clinton '93 just before he pulled out of Somalia.

To abandon this area now -- and to rely only on efforts against alQaeda from a distance ... -- OBAMA'09

What is the vital national interest? -- JoeBiden on Retreat from Afghanistan.

Starring Agent Orange in the MissilesOfVenezuela remake during Jeffmas? What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at December 12, 2025 05:28 PM (l657C)

224 its OK to admit you are wrong even though your generation is fully incapable of doing it.
Posted by: Unknown
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I am tail-end-boomer, and I have never had a problem admitting how much they fucked things up.

That does not mean that any successive generation hasn't fallen further, though.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:29 PM (krQz2)

225 "I bet all the mining we did left lead in their water, which is why they're all neurodivergent." Posted by: Lefty riddled with white guilt

ha .... "neuraodivergent".

Perhaps "we" need to come up with our own New Vocabulary, like the left does constantly. Neurodivergent ... well that is not precise enough.

But "gender dysphoric"? Need more "marketable" terms for "anti-American", and "godless atheist", "trust fund liberal", and "DEI incompetent".

Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2025 05:29 PM (vbXSk)

226 My mom once threw a pot of split pea soup at her asshole boyfriend. She never did anything like that and it was very satisfying. I helped her clean it up.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 05:27 PM (+mUZM)

I have a story . . .

Posted by: Linda Blair as Regan at December 12, 2025 05:29 PM (wVcYX)

227 Boomers were drafted to go to Vietnam. A lot of those died. The idiots at the colleges that protested lived on.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 12, 2025 05:29 PM (+mUZM)

228 218 My mom once threw a pot of split pea soup at her asshole boyfriend. She never did anything like that and it was very satisfying. I helped her clean it up.

your mom was katie porter?

Posted by: anachronda at December 12, 2025 05:30 PM (v3pYe)

229 218 My mom once threw a pot of split pea soup at her asshole boyfriend. She never did anything like that and it was very satisfying. I helped her clean it up.
Posted by: Notsothoreau

Waste of good soup. Throw boiling water or lye.

Posted by: Ghetto Lobstuh at December 12, 2025 05:30 PM (oftw2)

230 As with all chilis, stews, or soups, carrots are the key to success.
Posted by: The Green Grocer at December 12, 2025 05:25 PM (oftw2)

Just put carrots and potatoes in. Supposed to be cooold next 2 days. Bowl of pea soup and buttered slab of sourdough...mmmmm

Posted by: A dude in MI at December 12, 2025 05:30 PM (/6GbT)

231 I am really wondering if Sundowner actually did much of anything. The minions seem to have run the shoe.

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 05:30 PM (Ia/+0)

232 220 Also known as 'Shamba lamaba ding dong' Litmus Testing

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at
December 12, 2025 05:26 PM (xcxpd)
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How does your light shine in the Halls of Shambalamba-ding-dong?!
Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:28 PM (krQz2)

Those studies were inconclusive

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 05:30 PM (xcxpd)

233 If the rest of the Democrat Party didn't support open borders why are they now fighting so hard to keep illegals in the country?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 04:34 PM (viF8m)

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Cognitive dissonance is the Dems' best feature. They can hold as many contradictory thoughts as it takes. They have wiped out logic from their universe.

Posted by: Decaf at December 12, 2025 05:31 PM (1RAfh)

234 225 "I bet all the mining we did left lead in their water, which is why they're all neurodivergent." Posted by: Lefty riddled with white guilt

ha .... "neuraodivergent".

Perhaps "we" need to come up with our own New Vocabulary, like the left does constantly. Neurodivergent ... well that is not precise enough.


ah. i got it for you. "I bet all the mining we did left lead in their water, which is why they're all 6-7".

Posted by: anachronda at December 12, 2025 05:31 PM (v3pYe)

235 Boomer Derangement Syndrome is real...but not spectacular.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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I'm still trying to figure out what I have done that is so heinous. I suppose that I ought to simply accept the wisdom, experience, and insight of those 50 years younger than myself.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2025 05:31 PM (XeU6L)

236 Our number one problem is the s*** media. If people were well-informed, 80% of them would vote against these assholes. I estimate we have about 20% hardcore lunatic left-wing totalitarians, but most Americans, if they had any idea what the f*** is going on, they would never vote for these bastards.

Our number two problem is treasonous, greedy, and quisling politicians masquerading as patriotic Americans. That's always going to be a problem because they swarm around money and power like horseflies on cow flop.

Posted by: Beverly at December 12, 2025 05:31 PM (reMys)

237 it is funny how easy it is to get boomers to go nuts over criticizing the boomers. why do you care, nothing more than a term to describe who was born when?

it is fun to watch though

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:31 PM (fHLjf)

238 231 I am really wondering if Sundowner actually did much of anything. The minions seem to have run the shoe.

nike air?

Posted by: anachronda at December 12, 2025 05:31 PM (v3pYe)

239 Cognitive dissonance is the Dems' best feature. They can hold as many contradictory thoughts as it takes. They have wiped out logic from their universe.
Posted by: Decaf

DoubleThink. It's essential to a smooth running EngSoc.

Posted by: 1984 at December 12, 2025 05:32 PM (Dv3i1)

240 Is the new ballroom ready yet. I feel like dancin'.

Posted by: Light in Loafers at December 12, 2025 05:32 PM (oftw2)

241 Nood 'week in woke'

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 05:32 PM (xcxpd)

242 And now the New York Times debases itself by imitating the behavior of vile NeverTrumpers in pretending that open borders was just something Biden came up with alone as a reaction to the Beast of the Apocalypse Donald Trump.

Posted by: Ace at 04:28 PM

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Same rationale for reversing the Evil Hitlerian Trump's "Drill Baby Drill 1.0" which gave us much cheaper energy and increased individual freedoms ... The Horror, The Horror!

[Recall:] On Day one of his "Presidency," Vegetable Puppet F. Joe Mugabe revoked approval for the Keystone XL pipeline and imposed a moratorium on oil and gas leasing on federal lands and waters (about 25% of U.S. production comes from federal areas).

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 05:32 PM (25a1J)

243
Long bows.

Amirite?

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:33 PM (krQz2)

244 Its the younger generation that is infatuated with socialism - Boomers ended the F'ing Cold War. The Younguns are surrendering to the Savages, Terrorists and Communists.

it was the boomers that brough in the savages and started indocrinating the young uns. those you are complaining about are what boomers made
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I'm going to withhold comment until someone explains Axl Roses's part in this mess.

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 05:33 PM (TN0g+)

245 The Duck and Cover drills didn't help. Neither did hearing the air raid alarm test every week.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 12, 2025 05:33 PM (wVcYX)

246 Our number one problem is the s*** media. If people were well-informed, 80% of them would vote against these assholes. I estimate we have about 20% hardcore lunatic left-wing totalitarians, but most Americans, if they had any idea what the f*** is going on, they would never vote for these bastards.

Our number two problem is treasonous, greedy, and quisling politicians masquerading as patriotic Americans. That's always going to be a problem because they swarm around money and power like horseflies on cow flop.
Posted by: Bev



it is not media, it does not matter to anybody younger than boomers, it is the lazy that do not bother to read other, varied sources.

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 05:33 PM (fHLjf)

247 I thought the “we should be tolerant only of that which does not further intolerance” came from Marcuse and his idea that tolerating conservatism was “repressive” but suffocating it was “liberating tolerance.”

Posted by: He learned almost too late, that Moron is a feeling creature at December 12, 2025 05:33 PM (7kSOl)

248 Cognitive dissonance is the Dems' best feature. They can hold as many contradictory thoughts as it takes. They have wiped out logic from their universe.
Posted by: Decaf
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“We choose truth over facts!” Joe Biden

That is to say, what they hold as 'truth'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2025 05:34 PM (XeU6L)

249
If the rest of the Democrat Party didn't support open borders why are they now fighting so hard to keep illegals in the country?
Posted by: JackStraw

================

That's one of the questions Gavin Newsom didn't address in that Ezra Klein interview (what we saw of it -- and I'm not going to watch a moment more).

It's also one of the questions the NY Times didn't raise.

Newsom better brace himself, because no amount of sanctimonious deflection will keep JD Vance's bullets of logic from piercing him.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 05:34 PM (1N/bM)

250 "roiling American cities today" = Upsetting Democrats

Fuck you. War.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 12, 2025 05:38 PM (m2lIk)

251 Get on the cart.

>>@jsolomonReports
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3m
>>Illinois Gov. Pritzker signs bill legalizing physician-assisted suicide

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 05:38 PM (viF8m)

252 Crossbows are better for fortress defense.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 12, 2025 05:39 PM (q2Q7i)

253 Newd.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 12, 2025 05:41 PM (q2Q7i)

254 I think the cut off age for boomers needs to be lowered. If you know any late boomers they are usually nothing like the early ones. While I'm thinking about it, any polices, laws, and general fuckups that helped screw this country were put in place by the the silent generation and the so called greatest generation. Boomers were too young to hold office when that shit was brewing. Well, not unless a 15 year old was able to vote to get us into vietnam. Biden, pelosi, the turtle, and all before them were not boomers.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 12, 2025 05:42 PM (snZF9)

255 I thought the “we should be tolerant only of that which does not further intolerance” came from Marcuse and his idea that tolerating conservatism was “repressive” but suffocating it was “liberating tolerance.”

Posted by: He learned almost too late, that Moron is a feeling creature at December 12, 2025 05:33 PM (7kSOl)
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Well, this can still be the case, since Popper's "contribution" was mainly, AIUI, two footnotes.

But, I believe Marcuse cites Popper, who had some cache as the premier theorist of SCIENCE!

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 05:44 PM (krQz2)

256 Berserker-Dragonheads, that is why some have come up with “Generation Jones”. My dad would, by this reckoning, be at the tail end of the Boomers, and my mom would be at the beginning of Jones. My dad was old enough to have seen the last vestiges of anti-Vietnam protests, on top of the other leftist college insanity. My mom never experienced any of that. They were only born 30 months apart.

Posted by: He learned almost too late, that Moron is a feeling creature at December 12, 2025 05:58 PM (7kSOl)

257 I thought VP Harris was the Border Czar?!?!

Posted by: Bang-a-gong at December 12, 2025 06:01 PM (SRiFu)

258 Don’t you remember? There was an NPC patch during the 2024 election season that she never was. You need to keep up with your software updates, man.

Posted by: He learned almost too late, that Moron is a feeling creature at December 12, 2025 06:03 PM (7kSOl)

259 Ace
Actually only about 1000 to 2000 degrees are given NATIONALY EACH YEAR I in the entire USA

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 12, 2025 06:17 PM (Vip4H)

260 The average number of degrees given by a department is only 9

This is one of the things that only the hard right wingers bieve, like when Trump says "we inherited the highest inflation in history" no he didn't the inflation at the end of Bidens term was
3% about what it is right now
Trump constantly lies.

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 12, 2025 06:26 PM (Vip4H)

261 Two Grimm Fairy tales

Snow-White and Rose-Red: Two peasant sisters, a grumpy dwarf, a bear (cursed prince), no evil stepmother, published in the Grimms' 1812/1815 collection.

Snow White, published 1812, evil stepmother, lots of good dwarfs, a poison apple & glass coffin.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 12, 2025 06:49 PM (NFX2v)

262 The Demonrats planted it, nirtured it, reaped it. Now live with it. They are just full of it.

Posted by: TJ Jackson at December 12, 2025 08:52 PM (bXvrr)

263 The Times article is a MASTERPIECE of revisionist history (thus propaganda.) And as many commenters have noted, EVERY other Mainstream outlet will parrot it and low-info Democrat voters will eagerly believe it, because the dumb sons of bitches believe anything the Lying Mainstream Media tells 'em.
Plus they WANT to believe it, because they don't want to believe the open-borders policy eagerly pushed by EVERY Democrat pol caused virtually every problem we're suffering with today.

Posted by: sf at December 13, 2025 11:48 AM (hohh4)

Indiana Cucks Refuse to Redraw Congressional Map Even As Democrats Attempt to Impeach Trump Again (and Will Impeach Him Once They Retake the House)

Fuck these people. Primary them all.

They fiddle as Rome burns and call themselves just for doing so.


The Republican-controlled Indiana state Senate voted Thursday to reject the redrawn redistricting map that could have potentially meant an increase of two GOP U.S. House members in the 2026 midterm elections.

The defeat of the map represents a setback to President Donald Trump who had strongly advocated for its passage by the state Senate. Also, there have been multiple visits from Vice President JD Vance and calls from Speaker of the House Mike Johnson (La.), attempting to persuade enough members of the Senate to pass the redrawn map.

Though the GOP-controlled state House had approved the map last week, according to NBC News, it failed in the state Senate by a vote of 31-19.

Republicans have a majority in the state senate, but only a minority of them voted in favor of the map. They weren't betrayed by a few rogue members -- the majority of them joined the Democrats to get Trump impeached in January 2026.

The Democrats are not hiding their plans.

The House voted on Thursday to table a motion to impeach President Donald Trump. The so-called privileged motion to force the House to act was introduced by Texas Democratic Rep. Al Green, according to The Hill.

A Republican motion to table the resolution passed by a vote of 237-140, with 47 Democrats voting present and 23 voting with the Republicans to table it. Tabling means to set it aside indefinitely without further debate.

Green has repeatedly introduced resolutions to impeach President Trump, both during his first term in office and now three times this year, since Trump's return to office.

His latest resolution has two impeachment articles. The first article is for "Abuse of Presidential Power by Calling for the Execution of Members of Congress." That was in reference to Trump's response last month to the video made by six Democrats telling members of the military that they don't have to follow unlawful orders.

Many Democrats voted for the impeachment. Some voted present and some voted to table it. But the latter Democrats only ducked the impeachment vote because they don't want the public thinking they are revenge-minded crazies before they're in a position to actually achieve their revenge-crazy impeachment.

See, they are doing what they do every two or four years, tamping down on their more extreme elements to make themselves look good for a critical election.

They want to win. We don't. Our own "representatives" are scheming with the Democrats to bring Trump down.

Posted by: Ace at 03:23 PM




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1 i noodled

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 12, 2025 03:23 PM (CWTWj)

2 and foist again, two

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 12, 2025 03:23 PM (CWTWj)

3 I hope DeSantis goes through with redistricting

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 03:23 PM (VE6XX)

4 Newbie-like read content.

Posted by: RI Red at December 12, 2025 03:24 PM (LMRVO)

5 What do you expect from a State that gave us Mike Pence

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 03:25 PM (VE6XX)

6 Yet we insist that those who vote for Democrats are "brainwashed"......

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 03:25 PM (/+FOE)

7 it is important that we not imitate the dems because it will encourage the dems to keep doing what they always do.

we must be the good guys so we can get good write ups in the ny times

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 12, 2025 03:25 PM (CWTWj)

8 I think we're settling on "The Traitorous 21".

Rep. Becky Cash, R-Zionsville (District 25)
Rep. Michael Karickhoff, R-Kokomo (District 30)
Rep. Danny Lopez, R-Carmel (District 39)
Rep. Greg Steuerwald, R-Avon (District 40)
Rep. Mark Genda, R-Frankfort (District 41)
Rep. Tim Yocum, R-Clinton (District 42)
Rep. Peggy Mayfield, R-Martinsville (District 60)
Rep. Dave Hall, R-Norman (District 62)
Rep. Edward Clere, R-New Albany (District 72)
Rep. Jennifer Meltzer, R-Shelbyville (District 73)
Rep. Stephen Bartels, R-Eckerty (District 74)
Rep. Matthew Lehman, R-Berne (District 79)

Posted by: Attn: Fellow Hoosiers at December 12, 2025 03:26 PM (JCLJi)

9 In today's episode of the Waltons, fat rose eats four pounds of butter right at the store.

Posted by: parrots at December 12, 2025 03:27 PM (Kt19C)

10 It's Indiana. Most of the people there never sober up.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 12, 2025 03:27 PM (g8Ew8)

11 In part two, flatulence ensures.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 12, 2025 03:28 PM (Kt19C)

12 Ok, so doom and despair thread eh?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 03:28 PM (zZu0s)

13 I'm drawing a blank on the rationale these scoundrels may have to explain how this helps the party they are supposedly a part of.

If they don't want to Make America Great Again they are the enemy as much as the Democrats are.

Posted by: Minuteman at December 12, 2025 03:29 PM (1SDXk)

14 "They want to win. We don't. Our own 'representatives' are scheming with the Democrats to bring Trump down."

Hence why I'm very nervous about 2026. I don't believe all the doomsaying and leftwing ops about the economy or "affordability" or whatever stupid fake buzzword they pulled out of some fag's ass. I think Trump is doing a great job, and the country is clearly improving across the board.

But I'm worried that we just don't want this badly enough. We just don't. I see no indications that we are as fired up to vote as Democraps. It's not even close. 2026 will be 100% about turnout. Whoever shows up will win. The Democraps will surely show up. Will we?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 03:29 PM (iFTx/)

15 re 8; the kind of repubs who would have preferred to see !jeb in 2016

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 12, 2025 03:29 PM (CWTWj)

16 It's Indiana. Most of the people there never sober up.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons

That explains why they elected a Senator named Birch Bayh.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 03:29 PM (77rzZ)

17 The GOPe still refuses to believe that we are on a simmering civil war. The signs are right in their faces but they get there "campaign contributions" and they're happy idiots

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2025 03:29 PM (D+mpw)

18 The Democrats play like a team - If the team wins, they all prosper, even the ones that lose elections and have to take 7 figure sinecures at NGOs or universities (or corporate boards, or law firms, or gov. agencies.)

For the Republicans it's Every Man For Himself, so they all try to profit as much as possible and get reelected. There is no team.

I don't know how to fix this, but while it happens we are losing our civilization.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 12, 2025 03:29 PM (uxVjF)

19 It is a tough fight with the Marxists

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 03:29 PM (Ia/+0)

20 12 Ok, so doom and despair thread eh?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 03:28 PM (zZu0s)

More anger for me...

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 03:30 PM (VE6XX)

21 Ok, so doom and despair thread eh?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

I can change that:

BOOBS!

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 03:30 PM (77rzZ)

22 Huh. Completely it, but i see a ewetub blurb that says the at&t girl has done onlyfans.

To counteract the doom and despair.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 03:30 PM (zZu0s)

23 >>For the Republicans it's Every Man For Himself, so they all try to profit as much as possible and get reelected. There is no team.

Trump needs to go Al Capone on them.

Enthusiasms.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 03:31 PM (viF8m)

24 The Left is deservedly gloating and dunking on Trump.

I’m taking a moment to just bask in the system working as it should. The fact that our voices made a difference.

"The system working as it should" would have never comsidered such a measure. And, as always, Fuck Trump.

This isn't a principled stand. It's just self interested opportunism. They're worried about accidentally gerrymandering themselves out of a job in the event of blue wave.

I deliberately didn’t follow this today because I feared/assumed the worst. Boy, was I wrong, and am I happy about that!!!

Lmaooooo get fucked Donald. Props to all the senate republicans that stood up to the pressure campaign. We may not always see eye to eye on the issues but I salute your courage on this.

they only did this because they're afraid of getting screwed if diluted districts trend to the left next year, which is absolutely going to happen. I wouldn't be surprised if the No votes were in those more purple proposed districts. And absolutely fuck Donald.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 12, 2025 03:31 PM (JCZqz)

25 Couple of things: Trump, as ever, has been really bad on messaging since his election. Doesn't like something? He calls it a hoax. Epstein..."Nevermind." He's not helping himself.

Second... Trump voters suck. They really do. If he's not on the ballot they stay home. So they can all suck their thumbs when he's impeached for the 3rd, 4th, 5th time. They're the reason we had no red wave in 2022. They're the reason the Dems are sweeping the off-year elections.

Posted by: SMFH at December 12, 2025 03:32 PM (112XX)

26 The GOPe still refuses to believe that we are on a simmering civil war.

It's not that they refuse to believe it. They're just on the other side.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 12, 2025 03:32 PM (z5QST)

27 Remember about 50% of Republicans are only Republicans because they were too spineless to try to win as Democrats. Start there. Another 40% are too conniving to do said same. That leaves the 10% that are merely in it for themselves, and like two people who actually agree with us.

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 03:32 PM (/+FOE)

28 Ace is feeling dark today.

Posted by: Ezra at December 12, 2025 03:32 PM (GD2xa)

29 The justifications for trying to work within the GOP are getting kinda silly at this stage.

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 12, 2025 03:32 PM (OUMaO)

30 It's a UniParty win!

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 12, 2025 03:33 PM (/lPRQ)

31 Huh. Completely it, but i see a ewetub blurb that says the at&t girl has done onlyfans.

I don't believe it. Prove me wrong. Please.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 12, 2025 03:33 PM (3nLb4)

32 Today's cheery news: Lil Pooky ate a ton of sesame chicken at the local Chinese restaurant, and the owner was laughing because we love it too.

//v/f/v/v/v/v/v//v

Posted by: pookysgirl, wrestling Lil Pooky for the keyboard at December 12, 2025 03:33 PM (Wt5PA)

33 Off damn sock.

Ace is dark post was me.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at December 12, 2025 03:33 PM (GD2xa)

34 21 House Seats in New England.

About 40% of the population votes R

0 Seats though

Because it is 100% gerrymandered

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2025 03:33 PM (sKqQm)

35 Second... Trump voters suck. They really do. If he's not on the ballot they stay home.

...have you looked at what they're being asked to vote for? Of course they stay home. I suspect they have a more realistic assessment of the situation than most.

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 12, 2025 03:33 PM (OUMaO)

36 AT&T girl is a pro-abortion nut.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 03:34 PM (77rzZ)

37 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-gnGjIRuwY

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 12, 2025 03:34 PM (Kt19C)

38 We did get Texas, which is more important than Indiana. But still, this was a gimme. Very disappointing.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 03:34 PM (iFTx/)

39 17 The GOPe still refuses to believe that we are on a simmering civil war. The signs are right in their faces but they get there "campaign contributions" and they're happy idiots
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2025 03:29 PM (D+mpw)

Don't forget the insider trading and after office sinecures in USAID NGO's

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 12, 2025 03:34 PM (XfKE0)

40 BOOBS!
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 03:30 PM (77rzZ

Sorry; it didn't do a thing for me😉

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 03:34 PM (ix8EF)

41
Second... Trump voters suck. They really do. If he's not on the ballot they stay home.
Posted by: SMFH at December 12, 2025 03:32 PM (112XX)

You nailed the exact opposite of reality. Good job.

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 03:34 PM (/+FOE)

42 Couldn't all of the criminals in Gary just overthrow the state?

Seriously, with Ohio, Illinois and Kentucky neighboring, they don't stand a chance.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 12, 2025 03:34 PM (1zOXE)

43 Today's cheery news: Lil Pooky ate a ton of sesame chicken at the local Chinese restaurant, and the owner was laughing because we love it too.
Posted by: pookysgirl

He on the football team yet?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 03:35 PM (77rzZ)

44 My point in #18 is that I think many R politicians understand that we are losing our civilization, but they figure there is nothing they can do alone, so best to make that "generational wealth" to protect their family.

Our failures are self-reinforcing.

Trump's winning is the counter to that. He has restored some vitality to the country but still many do not see our civilization as the winning team.

Over at Insty there is a post about a Chinese Spy/Professor who felt he would "always return to China" after spending life working/spying in USA.

Many Chinese immigrants in West see us as a losing civilization. They will never assimilate because, why switch to losing side?
Same with muzzies. Same with Somalians. Same with Mexicans.
You see the problem? I am saying that even Americans often see our side as ultimate losers. We have to fix that.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 12, 2025 03:35 PM (uxVjF)

45 They're the reason the Dems are sweeping the off-year elections.

They haven't quite swept them but there is an obvious pattern.

In areas with poor voter security the Dems are getting normal offyear election numbers and the Rs are getting a fraction of that.

In areas with stronger vote security both sides are getting a fraction of their off year results.

So there problem is two fold:

Conservative voters are not showing up
Leftists are printing ballots with impunity

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2025 03:35 PM (sKqQm)

46 Rinos always do their best.

To prove Elon is right about starting a third party.

Posted by: Minuteman at December 12, 2025 03:35 PM (1SDXk)

47 My point in #18 is that I think many R politicians understand that we are losing our civilization, but they figure there is nothing they can do alone, so best to make that "generational wealth" to protect their family.


I've been noting this as well, and it should be pointed out we have emails from them to each other saying this is what they are doing.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2025 03:36 PM (sKqQm)

48 >>Couple of things: Trump, as ever, has been really bad on messaging since his election. Doesn't like something? He calls it a hoax. Epstein..."Nevermind." He's not helping himself.

Have noticed that Democrats hardly mention Epstein at all lately?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 03:36 PM (viF8m)

49 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 03:34 PM (ix8EF)

Fen, how's your son doing? Any luck with the job search?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 03:37 PM (77rzZ)

50 AT&T girl is a pro-abortion nut.

Yep. Quite pretty on the outside though - and was in a really odd webseries called "Dad Feels"

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2025 03:37 PM (sKqQm)

51 24 they only did this because they're afraid of getting screwed if diluted districts trend to the left next year, which is absolutely going to happen. I wouldn't be surprised if the No votes were in those more purple proposed districts. And absolutely fuck Donald.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 12, 2025 03:31 PM (JCZqz)

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They really think it's going to be D+15 next year.

It might be D+4. Maybe.

And the amount of redistricting since 2020, including this year (and FL next year) is going to make a D+4 environment barely enough for a majority, maybe even not enough.

Jeffries might end up with a majority of like 3-5.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:37 PM (GBKbO)

52 they only did this because they're afraid of getting screwed if diluted districts trend to the left next year, which is absolutely going to happen. I wouldn't be surprised if the No votes were in those more purple proposed districts. And absolutely fuck Donald.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 12, 2025 03:31 PM (JCZqz)
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I think DU is right about this, and I've said so repeatedly. None of these slapcock dickies wanted to risk diluting their districts by even the slightest margins. That, and they're pussyfags too.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 03:37 PM (iFTx/)

53 Have noticed that Democrats hardly mention Epstein at all lately?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 03:36 PM (viF8m)

They released a photo today of Trump at a party with Epstein.. Of course Bill Clinton was in the picture too...

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 03:37 PM (VE6XX)

54 dude what's with Indiana?

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 03:38 PM (ZxPkt)

55 52
I think DU is right about this, and I've said so repeatedly. None of these slapcock dickies wanted to risk diluting their districts by even the slightest margins. That, and they're pussyfags too.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 03:37 PM (iFTx/)

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None of the new districts would have been less than R+13.

IN state senators are not freaking out because hypothetical Republicans running for the House next year might get swept up in a wave larger than 2018.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:38 PM (GBKbO)

56 Have noticed that Democrats hardly mention Epstein at all lately?/i]

Earlier this year they were arguing their were no Epstein clients outside of Epstein himself, Maxwell, and Prince Andrew and anyone that claimed otherwise was a racist conspiracy theorist.

Then the change in narrative went out and suddenly of course Trump was an Epstein client!

And as so more evidence comes out and it doesn't point to Trump but does point to various leftwing celebs and pols they'll go back to arguing it was all fake.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2025 03:39 PM (sKqQm)

57 Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 03:37 PM (77rzZ)

Thanks for asking. He was supposed to hear today about the last interview. The fact that he didn't probably means he didn't get it. Oh, well, he is applying through his university job portal for another position.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 03:39 PM (ix8EF)

58 Yes - *Epstein* is why we're "losing".

Nothing to do with the fact that the GOP are spineless, dickless, traitorous skunks who have done virtually nothing that we asked them to do.

Genius!

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 03:39 PM (/+FOE)

59 They really think it's going to be D+15 next year.

It might be D+4. Maybe.

And the amount of redistricting since 2020, including this year (and FL next year) is going to make a D+4 environment barely enough for a majority, maybe even not enough.

Jeffries might end up with a majority of like 3-5.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:37 PM (GBKbO)
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It doesn't matter what the Democrap majority is, though. If we lose the house, they'll have full control. If they have even one more seat than us, it's game over. It'll be 2018-2020 all over again.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 03:40 PM (iFTx/)

60 I suspect that if you poke at the current IN congress critters in a couple of years you'll find they or their family members will have gotten plumb no-show consulting jobs.

That's how all this stuff works as this sort of bribery is for all intents legal now

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2025 03:40 PM (sKqQm)

61 58 Yes - *Epstein* is why we're "losing".

Nothing to do with the fact that the GOP are spineless, dickless, traitorous skunks who have done virtually nothing that we asked them to do.

Genius!

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 03:39 PM (/+FOE)

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We're losing special elections because 25% turnout advantages the hyper engaged, and that's Democrats now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:40 PM (GBKbO)

62 It doesn't matter what the Democrap majority is, though. If we lose the house, they'll have full control. If they have even one more seat than us, it's game over. It'll be 2018-2020 all over again.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 03:40 PM (iFTx/)


I'm afraid you're right

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 03:40 PM (VE6XX)

63 I live in Indiana. You can trash the senators that voted this down, but the bottom line is, Indiana is impossible to gerrymander 9-0 in an off year election. It might look possible on paper, but the reality is, the results could be much worse next year with new lines drawn and you could easily have ended up with 6-3 or even 5-4 instead of the current 7-2.

Posted by: ckmeat at December 12, 2025 03:40 PM (icpM8)

64 >>They released a photo today of Trump at a party with Epstein.. Of course Bill Clinton was in the picture too...

They've moved on to Trump is a war criminal for killing terrorists too meanly.

That too will fade away soon. Most of them don't believe the crap they rant about. They just want to keep it in the news cycle for a while and then move on to the next lie.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 03:40 PM (viF8m)

65 They are all bush gop(e) republicans.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 12, 2025 03:41 PM (0N4FZ)

66 59 It doesn't matter what the Democrap majority is, though. If we lose the house, they'll have full control. If they have even one more seat than us, it's game over. It'll be 2018-2020 all over again.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 03:40 PM (iFTx/)

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Seriously...whatever.

They ran some hearings and did some pointless impeachments that didn't actually matter.

This time, though, Trump has a fully funded ICE through 2028.

Also, the vast majority of oldest House members are Democrats.

I want Democrats to win a majority of 1 on election day. And then an old House member dies before voting on the Speaker.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:41 PM (GBKbO)

67
Jeffries might end up with a majority of like 3-5.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

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A majority of 1 is all it takes.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 03:41 PM (1N/bM)

68 He on the football team yet?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 03:35 PM (77rzZ)

I think he's going to be a wrestler, given how his diaper changes go. Today I joked that we should have named him "Jacob."

Posted by: pookysgirl, part of a two-man team at December 12, 2025 03:42 PM (Wt5PA)

69 I think Trump has said he willing be going around speaking about affordability. That should help Republicans some, so I'm not ready to lament "It's all over!! Democrats will control Congress!!" When elections are still a ways off.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 03:42 PM (ix8EF)

70 Thanks for asking. He was supposed to hear today about the last interview. The fact that he didn't probably means he didn't get it. Oh, well, he is applying through his university job portal for another position.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

I really, really hate it when I interview with someone and then they just drop me. Just tell me if you don't want me. I'm a big boy, I can take it. But just ghosting interviewees seems to be the default practice these days.

Tell him to keep his chin up and hang in there.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 03:42 PM (77rzZ)

71 67
Jeffries might end up with a majority of like 3-5.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

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A majority of 1 is all it takes.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 03:41 PM (1N/bM)

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Oh, no...

Impeachment hearings that the Senate will not convict on.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:42 PM (GBKbO)

72 Indiana is jealous of mississippi , nothing worth anything in indiana other than Peaches

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 03:42 PM (Nmj5t)

73 In the next episode of the Waltons, rose cries because the store can't stock enough butter, despite war rationing being long over.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 12, 2025 03:42 PM (Kt19C)

74 We're losing special elections because 25% turnout advantages the hyper engaged, and that's Democrats now.

TBH I really don't think that's it. In my blue area turnout is and political activity is normal.

I think we are seeing the fraud infrastructure the dems have built where a bunch of votes are coming in from people they know aren't going to vote either because they are dead, phantoms that never existed, or illegals.

But practically the problem is the same if R leaning voters don't turn out this is enough in special elections and potentially off-year ones as well

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2025 03:43 PM (sKqQm)

75 29 The justifications for trying to work within the GOP are getting kinda silly at this stage.
Posted by: Brother Tim

Problem though in a single member district, first past the post election, you will only get two main political parties (see Duverget's Law). Nigel is trying to pull off Reform as killing off the Conservative party but if you notice, Labor is in charge there with a massive majority despite only getting 34 percent of the total vote. Conservatives and Reform together got 38 percent. Labor got 412 Seats, Conservative 121, Reform got 5.

So Labor is sitting on a 100 seat cushion and can do anything it wants for the next four years including flood the country with ringers, jail the opposition for social media posts, etc.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 03:43 PM (WDjG6)

76 *doom post deleted*

Expect the worst, hope for the best.

Posted by: Words to Laugh By at December 12, 2025 03:43 PM (qUkBO)

77 The only way it will be over is if R's do another rash of retirements. I wonder what will happen.

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 03:43 PM (/+FOE)

78 I think DU is right about this, and I've said so repeatedly. None of these slapcock dickies wanted to risk diluting their districts by even the slightest margins. That, and they're pussyfags too.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 03:37 PM (iFTx/)

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None of the new districts would have been less than R+13.

IN state senators are not freaking out because hypothetical Republicans running for the House next year might get swept up in a wave larger than 2018.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:38 PM (GBKbO)
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I guarantee you the state senators got lots of pressure from the current federal house reps to keep things exactly as they are. Nobody wants to lose even one point of "R+"

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 03:43 PM (iFTx/)

79 26 It's not that they refuse to believe it. They're just on the other side.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 12, 2025 03:32 PM (z5QST)

Sort of.

It's not so much that they are Democrats in Good Standing (the actual Democrats still hate them and would kill them in a second if they could get away with it... and they're pretty damn close to being able to get away with it), but that they are the kept pets currently allowed to pick at the Democrats table scraps.

Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2025 03:43 PM (UnA8+)

80 74
TBH I really don't think that's it. In my blue area turnout is and political activity is normal.

I think we are seeing the fraud infrastructure the dems have built where a bunch of votes are coming in from people they know aren't going to vote either because they are dead, phantoms that never existed, or illegals.

But practically the problem is the same if R leaning voters don't turn out this is enough in special elections and potentially off-year ones as well

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2025 03:43 PM (sKqQm)

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No...it's massively reduced turnout.

Look at the numbers.

Miami was 100,000 fewer votes than last year.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:44 PM (GBKbO)

81 Thanks for asking. He was supposed to hear today about the last interview. The fact that he didn't probably means he didn't get it. Oh, well, he is applying through his university job portal for another position.
Posted by: Fen


nobody ever gets a job that way, he has to network , same for college students

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 03:44 PM (Nmj5t)

82
One excuse that the Indiana Republicans put out for not redistricting is that Trump urging them to do so offended them, and so they stubbornly dug in their heels.

It's a lie. Trump was on their case because they'd already decided not to do it for their own selfish reasons. He couldn't talk them out of it.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 12, 2025 03:44 PM (HLgI3)

83 Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 03:42 PM (77rzZ

Yes; That is hard, isn't it? I am sorry that has happened to you and to others. I will tell him to keep his chin up, and you do as well!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 03:44 PM (ix8EF)

84 *pulls pin*
*aims at base*
*squeezes trigger*
*sweeps*


Posted by: nurse ratched at December 12, 2025 03:45 PM (W2Pud)

85 And my point in #44 is that we need a preference cascade that the USA civilization (without marxists and muzzies, etc.) can and will win.

Trump committed to that victory. He pledged his Life, Fortune, and our sacred Honor.

So don't see these R legislators as quislings or traitors, they are just not committed to the fight and we need to figure out how to change that. We need a win. Many states use war in such a situation. Just a warning/thought.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 12, 2025 03:45 PM (uxVjF)

86 I thought she moved back to "El Lay" ??

Posted by: alpine_beer at December 12, 2025 03:45 PM (van9r)

87 78
I guarantee you the state senators got lots of pressure from the current federal house reps to keep things exactly as they are. Nobody wants to lose even one point of "R+"

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 03:43 PM (iFTx/)

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And yet, TX, MO, and NC did it. And FL's gonna do it.

No, that's not it.

They just decided to thumb their noses at Trump because they're big, because they actually dislike Trump and don't want the NYT to say mean things about them.

These are the same people that applauded Pence when he folded on religious freedom.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:45 PM (GBKbO)

88 I am convinced Republicans at every level are scared of the press

this is why they talk shit but never follow thru
the papers might print mean things about them
and this could hurt re-election chances
Re-election in perpetuity is Job One

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 03:45 PM (ZxPkt)

89 Indiana is jealous of mississippi , nothing worth anything in indiana other than Peaches
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 03:42 PM (Nmj5t)

Is she your booty call?

Posted by: Doesn't Matter at December 12, 2025 03:45 PM (JCLJi)

90 So Labor is sitting on a 100 seat cushion and can do anything it wants for the next four years including flood the country with ringers, jail the opposition for social media posts, etc.
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And tax the pubs out of existence so there is no place for rural working class whites to publicly gather and talk politics.

Posted by: Words to Laugh By at December 12, 2025 03:45 PM (qUkBO)

91 AT&T girl is a pro-abortion nut.
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 03:34 PM (77rzZ)

Which means we do not feel sorry that she joined onlyfans and can enjoy her fun bags with a clear conscience.

My logic, assail it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 03:45 PM (zZu0s)

92 Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 03:44 PM (Nmj5t

Well, if a person is not much of a networker it's a skill they have to learn.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 03:46 PM (ix8EF)

93 >>> His latest resolution has two impeachment articles. The first article is for "Abuse of Presidential Power by Calling for the Execution of Members of Congress." That was in reference to Trump's response last month to the video made by six Democrats telling members of the military...

... to have a coup. Which usually involves killing the rightful leader.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 12, 2025 03:46 PM (/lPRQ)

94 Here's a question - how are the R voters in IN reacting to this?

I suspect if you had a protest with say 1000 GOP voters pledging to vote for and fund their opponents in the coming primaries in the state house they might...reassess...their decision.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2025 03:46 PM (sKqQm)

95 90 So Labor is sitting on a 100 seat cushion and can do anything it wants for the next four years including flood the country with ringers, jail the opposition for social media posts, etc.
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And tax the pubs out of existence so there is no place for rural working class whites to publicly gather and talk politics.

Posted by: Words to Laugh By at December 12, 2025 03:45 PM (qUkBO)

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Remember, Labour was the restrictionist party on immigration until, like, last year.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:46 PM (GBKbO)

96 Indiana Cucks. That should be the name the Indiana GOP adopts for their softball team...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 03:46 PM (ynpvh)

97 We have a few good Hoosier 'Ron's and ettes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 03:46 PM (zZu0s)

98 If they don't want to Make America Great Again they are the enemy as much as the Democrats are.

Actually worse because we know the Demonic Party is Hell bent on destroying Western Civilization while plundering the treasury the whole way and we can vote against them.

When the feckless GOP politician proves to be a Demonic Party member dressed as GOP we don't have a choice. (at least one that doesn't involve rooftops)

TBF, Indiana is semi-open primary and Demons can vote in the GOP primary - so we can't blame the drunken slobs that by miracle show up on election day.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 03:47 PM (+4Cf6)

99 Indiana is jealous of mississippi , nothing worth anything in indiana other than Peaches
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 03:42 PM (Nmj5t)

Is she your booty call?
Posted by: Doe


You have no idea who Peaches is?

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 03:47 PM (Nmj5t)

100 63 I live in Indiana. You can trash the senators that voted this down, but the bottom line is, Indiana is impossible to gerrymander 9-0 in an off year election. It might look possible on paper, but the reality is, the results could be much worse next year with new lines drawn and you could easily have ended up with 6-3 or even 5-4 instead of the current 7-2.
Posted by: ckmeat
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Some of those guys are going to lose their primaries soon. And y'all need to dump the Pence family as cucks and traitors plus scamsters (go back to the family oil business collapse for a look).

Indiana Senate could have always done an 8-1 map in response as the Northwest district is only D+1 anyway and surrounded by R double digit districts. They could have gotten rid of that one and left Carson alone in Indianapolis.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 03:47 PM (WDjG6)

101 97 We have a few good Hoosier 'Ron's and ettes.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 03:46 PM (zZu0s)

We shouldn't be judging them by the State they live in...

I hope you all don't blame me for California

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 03:47 PM (VE6XX)

102 I guarantee you the state senators got lots of pressure from the current federal house reps to keep things exactly as they are. Nobody wants to lose even one point of "R+"

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 03:43 PM (iFTx/)

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And yet, TX, MO, and NC did it. And FL's gonna do it.

No, that's not it.

They just decided to thumb their noses at Trump because they're big, because they actually dislike Trump and don't want the NYT to say mean things about them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:45 PM (GBKbO)
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Nah, that ain't it

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 03:48 PM (iFTx/)

103 Well, if a person is not much of a networker it's a skill they have to learn.
Posted by: Fen


It is what it is, he should get started now.

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 03:48 PM (Nmj5t)

104 .
I lived in Lafayette, IN, when I was a kid. Fuck 'em up the ass with Mike Pence riding SMoD.

Posted by: Marooned at December 12, 2025 03:48 PM (kt8QE)

105 Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 03:48 PM (Nmj5t

Whatever.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 03:48 PM (ix8EF)

106 We have a few good Hoosier 'Ron's and ettes.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Don't you live there, or were raised there? I seem to recall you have some connection to the Ft. Wayne area.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 03:48 PM (77rzZ)

107 98 If they don't want to Make America Great Again they are the enemy as much as the Democrats are.

Actually worse because we know the Demonic Party is Hell bent on destroying Western Civilization while plundering the treasury the whole way and we can vote against them.

When the feckless GOP politician proves to be a Demonic Party member dressed as GOP we don't have a choice. (at least one that doesn't involve rooftops)

TBF, Indiana is semi-open primary and Demons can vote in the GOP primary - so we can't blame the drunken slobs that by miracle show up on election day.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 03:47 PM (+4Cf6)

Yeah, that sucks. Just like jungle primaries. And Ballot collection stations. And voter rolls so filled with dead and illegal voters that the % of registered voters in those rolls exceed 100%...AND...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 03:49 PM (ynpvh)

108 hope you all don't blame me for California

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 03:47 PM (VE6XX)

Well I *didnt*.....

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 03:49 PM (/+FOE)

109 Our own "representatives" are scheming with the Democrats to bring Trump down.

But we *are* your representatives!

Sort of like a sales rep. We don't represent you, of course. That would be silly. We represent the company, have a territory, and work on commission.

Posted by: GOPe at December 12, 2025 03:49 PM (ittVa)

110 If Jingle Bells is racist, then what the hell is Jungle Primaries

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 03:49 PM (/+FOE)

111 Whatever.
Posted by: Fen


I gave you the best ever advice, does not bother me should you not embrace the advice

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 03:50 PM (Nmj5t)

112 Le Uniparty, Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite, WeBonedite.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 12, 2025 03:50 PM (n5tGW)

113 We do have a turnout problem in addition to a feckless GOP. We can stay home on principle but that gets us Democrats. We have an RNC problem- they need to get their heads out of their hind ends.

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 03:50 PM (ZdaMQ)

114 BOOBS!
Posted by: Bulg


What you thinking?
Big ol floppy knockers or a pair of teacups?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 12, 2025 03:50 PM (/lPRQ)

115 I never did trust them. Hell, I remember when Trump picked Pence, IIRC Mollie Hemingway was the only pundit who expressed my distrust.

If it weren't for the Democrats being so flamboyantly rotten, I'd have given up voting many years ago. But with very rare exceptions, I don't vote FOR Republicans, just against Democrats. Which is like picking the Mensheviks.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 12, 2025 03:50 PM (s0JqF)

116 101 97 We have a few good Hoosier 'Ron's and ettes.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 03:46 PM (zZu0s)

We shouldn't be judging them by the State they live in...

I hope you all don't blame me for California

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 03:47 PM (VE6XX)

Me neither. I vote against all the BS stuff every time my right to vote is not abridged.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 03:50 PM (ynpvh)

117 I hope you all don't blame me for California
Posted by: It's me donna

Well, not you alone. CaliGirl and Jim (in Kalifornia) get blamed, too.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 03:50 PM (77rzZ)

118 Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 03:50 PM (Nmj5t

Groovy. Bye.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 03:50 PM (ix8EF)

119 Gonna side with the Yankster on this one.

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 03:50 PM (/+FOE)

120 113 We do have a turnout problem in addition to a feckless GOP. We can stay home on principle but that gets us Democrats. We have an RNC problem- they need to get their heads out of their hind ends.

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 03:50 PM (ZdaMQ)

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90% of turnout is self-actuated. It's not GOTV of any kind, it's just people deciding to vote.

10%, the margins in most cases, is GOTV.

How do you fix the 90% when it gets too low? Obama's team had no idea, which is why they lost midterms.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:51 PM (GBKbO)

121 118 Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 03:50 PM (Nmj5t

Groovy. Bye.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 03:50 PM (ix8EF)

Fen ignore "it"

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 03:51 PM (VE6XX)

122 114 BOOBS!
Posted by: Bulg


What you thinking?
Big ol floppy knockers or a pair of teacups?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 12, 2025 03:50 PM (/lPRQ)

Boob backwards is booB...
Boobytrap backwards is partybooB...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 03:51 PM (ynpvh)

123 Groovy. Bye.
Posted by: Fen


you're so smart that you're going to ignore good advice even to the detriment of family?

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 03:51 PM (Nmj5t)

124 No we blame Caligirl

Posted by: alpine_beer at December 12, 2025 03:51 PM (van9r)

125 Fuck Indiana. I know, I live there.

Posted by: Jetto at December 12, 2025 03:51 PM (ZjOmf)

126 >108 hope you all don't blame me for California

Posted by: It's me donna
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and don't blame me for Colorado
Like Superman, I live among them, but I am not one of them.

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 03:52 PM (ZxPkt)

127 Waterboard them on tv to see what you see.

Posted by: thug dolphin at December 12, 2025 03:52 PM (EyfuW)

128 Wonder how much compromat there is out there on these Senators?

Posted by: Fritzy at December 12, 2025 03:52 PM (2GIh1)

129 I live among them, but I am not one of them.
Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 03:52 PM (ZxPkt)

Exactly

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 03:52 PM (VE6XX)

130 >>And yet, TX, MO, and NC did it. And FL's gonna do it.

How come Republicans redistricting in those states isn't a good omen but Indiana not going along portends doom?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 03:52 PM (viF8m)

131 You have to have a network to network. Some middle class kid fresh out of school isn't gonna have much of a network to tap into unless he can lean on connections of parents or family friends.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 12, 2025 03:52 PM (z5QST)

132 Fen ignore "it"
Posted by: It's


yeah have you got some good advice for her? or is it more you're brave, strong, beautiful girlish talking

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 03:53 PM (Nmj5t)

133 40 BOOBS!
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 03:30 PM (77rzZ

Sorry; it didn't do a thing for me😉
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 03:34 PM (ix8EF)
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Well, you can go to a gender clinic and get rid of them.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 12, 2025 03:53 PM (s0JqF)

134 n is not wrong about networking. but keep sending anonymous applications, your call

Posted by: alpine_beer at December 12, 2025 03:54 PM (van9r)

135 Remember, Labour was the restrictionist party on immigration until, like, last year.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I am not saying that Conservatives did not have it coming but it takes about 7-10 years for a new party to become competitive for control. Canada is another example when the Progressive Conservative Party of Mulroney went belly up in the 1993 elections and did not regain even minority control of government until Harper in 2011. It was a long slog to get even over a hundred seats for Conservatives.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 03:54 PM (WDjG6)

136 124 No we blame Caligirl
Posted by: alpine_beer at December 12, 2025 03:51 PM (van9r)

Lol, I'll shoulder the blame.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 12, 2025 03:54 PM (XfKE0)

137 You have to have a network to network. Some middle class kid fresh out of school isn't gonna have much of a network to tap into unless he can lean on connections of parents or family friends.
Posted by: bear w

Thats why you get internships, that something is hard does not mean it is wrong.

nobody gets hired for good jobs, in meaningful # through college offices

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 03:54 PM (Nmj5t)

138 Posted by: Eeyore at December 12, 2025 03:53 PM (s0JqF

I mean the mention of them didn't raise my spirits . I have no desire to get rid of my boobs.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 03:54 PM (Nx5jP)

139 130 >>And yet, TX, MO, and NC did it. And FL's gonna do it.

How come Republicans redistricting in those states isn't a good omen but Indiana not going along portends doom?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 03:52 PM (viF8m)

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People are letting special elections (which are not predictive) drive them to fear.

I actually wonder if overperformance in specials now is a unique phenomenon that actually indicates D ceilings. I'm not sure how to work it out mathematically, but the specials from 2023 and 2024 indicated huge overperformance for D's in 2024.

But D's lost.

Is it that their coalition are becoming only the super voters? That their leaners have abandoned them in the aggregate? I don't know...not enough data to really even start an analysis.

But it's an interesting idea.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:54 PM (GBKbO)

140 What do you expect from a State that gave us Mike Pence
Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 03:25 PM (VE6XX)

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Pence finally gets his revenge on the American people for not making him a president.

Posted by: Decaf at December 12, 2025 03:55 PM (1RAfh)

141 And yet, TX, MO, and NC did it. And FL's gonna do it.

How come Republicans redistricting in those states isn't a good omen but Indiana not going along portends doom?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 03:52 PM (viF8m)
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It is a good omen. It's that we had another two seats in the bag -- and we might need them -- but the Hoosier fags hosed out.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 03:55 PM (iFTx/)

142 Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 03:53 PM (Nmj5t)

Dude, chill the eff out. You gave your advice, fine. People are not mandated to follow your advice. Jeepers, go have a beer or something.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 03:55 PM (77rzZ)

143 Groovy. Bye.
Posted by: Fen


you're so smart that you're going to ignore good advice even to the detriment of family?
>>>>>Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 03:51 PM (Nmj5t)

She is too busy hunting trolls and being the blog nanny to take good advice for family.

Posted by: Same Old at December 12, 2025 03:55 PM (4dp/4)

144 101 I hope you all don't blame me for California
Posted by: It's me donna


of course not. mrs. chronda reliably informs me that everything bad that happens is *my* fault.

Posted by: anachronda at December 12, 2025 03:55 PM (v3pYe)

145 "Fuck these people. Primary them all."


Yeah - what Ace said

Posted by: Doof at December 12, 2025 03:55 PM (mWO2o)

146 just joshing CaliGirl.

Posted by: alpine_beer at December 12, 2025 03:56 PM (van9r)

147 So...thoughts on the suit?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:56 PM (GBKbO)

148 22 traitorous Republicans cucks voted with Democrats to overturn a Trump EO allowing fedgov “workers” to be fired easily.

Dems have a 1 vote majority they implement Obamacare and the Green New Deal. We have a supposed majority we can’t even get a fucking retarded govt worker fired.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 03:56 PM (9iyS+)

149
Dude, chill the eff out. You gave your advice, fine. People are not mandated to follow your advice. Jeepers, go have a beer or something.
Posted by: Bulg


shhh,nobody cares

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 03:56 PM (Nmj5t)

150 She is too busy hunting trolls and being the blog nanny to take good advice for family.
Posted by: Same Old at December 12, 2025 03:55 PM (4dp/4)

Pretty nasty and uncalled for

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 03:56 PM (VE6XX)

151 I have no desire to get rid of my boobs.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

FenSpouse will be glad to hear that.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 03:56 PM (77rzZ)

152 FWIW, it took Republicans about 8 years when the Whig party died. From 1852 to 1860 to win the presidency and Congress. Took even longer after the Federalist party died in 1808 effectively until 1840 with William Henry Harrison beating Martin Van Buren.

But the overriding statistic is when communists take control of government, whatever their label, it takes shooting, not elections to get out of it.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 03:56 PM (WDjG6)

153 of course not. mrs. chronda reliably informs me that everything bad that happens is *my* fault.
Posted by: anachronda at December 12, 2025 03:55 PM (v3pYe)

That can't be right. Per my ex everything was MY fault.

Posted by: Like whoa, deja fu man at December 12, 2025 03:57 PM (TbWk/)

154 She is too busy hunting trolls and being the blog nanny to take good advice for family.
Posted by: S

smiley face

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 03:57 PM (Nmj5t)

155 Is it that their coalition are becoming only the super voters? That their leaners have abandoned them in the aggregate? I don't know...not enough data to really even start an analysis.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:54 PM (GBKbO)
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Cemetery voters.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 03:58 PM (krQz2)

156 146 just joshing CaliGirl.
Posted by: alpine_beer at December 12, 2025 03:56 PM (van9r)

No worries.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 12, 2025 03:58 PM (XfKE0)

157 Pretty nasty and uncalled for
>>>>>Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 03:56 PM (VE6XX)

Nope. She got good advice, and her response was "whatever." That's smug and rude.

Posted by: Same Old at December 12, 2025 03:59 PM (/R1DT)

158 So...thoughts on the suit?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:56 PM (GBKbO)
_____

SantaCon is tomorrow, bruh.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 03:59 PM (iFTx/)

159 I doubt we can win in the long run. I am increasingly convinced that the dominant group on the American Right - Lockean Classical Liberals - is committed to never ever understanding those who disagree. I have seen too many attacks on us trads without a single case of really engaging. Which would be OK if the attitude were "we'll agree to disagree", but it's not. It's "You're really a totalitarian! And Un-American."

That cannot go on forever.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 12, 2025 03:59 PM (s0JqF)

160 >>People are letting special elections (which are not predictive) drive them to fear.

The TN special election was interesting. The narrative for weeks was midwest AOC was going to rock TN and flip a red seat. She lost by 9 in a R+10 district. In other words, she performed to the expected loss.

Special election have never been an indicator of anything other than a snapshot in time. Democrats are a little more motivated because they are angry and watching their power and world slip away thanks to Orange Satan.

What matters is the environment next November. If the economy starts roaring as is predicted it will be a completely different ballgame.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 03:59 PM (viF8m)

161 Nope. She got good advice, and her response was "whatever." That's smug and rude.
Posted by: Same Old

Project much?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 03:59 PM (77rzZ)

162 156 146 just joshing CaliGirl.
Posted by: alpine_beer at December 12, 2025 03:56 PM (van9r)

No worries.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 12, 2025 03:58 PM (XfKE0)

Yeah, we can't blame CBD for NJ; his FWPs are another matter, as is his restrictions on maple syrup usage...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 04:00 PM (ynpvh)

163 Yes, voting Democrats a majority in the House will totally fix things. I mean, look what they did last time. We’re still digging out from the wreckage.

Posted by: Vengeance at December 12, 2025 04:00 PM (bucPA)

164 You want: Vote integrity laws, investigations and prosecutions of Biden personnel, bar on H1Bs and further immigration, and vast cuts to the bureaucracy

You'll settle for: voter ID for Federal elections at least and maybe a few less H1bs?

You'll get: millions of more tax dollars to Ukraine

Posted by: Vote GOP! at December 12, 2025 04:00 PM (aiq/s)

165 Posted by: Same Old at December 12, 2025 03:59 PM (/R1DT)

Maybe he's been doing that.

And I just love posters who change their handles to insult me. Weenies.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 04:00 PM (Nx5jP)

166 So...thoughts on the suit?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:56 PM (GBKbO)
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Needs working LEDs so it literally lights up like a Christmas tree.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 04:00 PM (ESVrU)

167 158 So...thoughts on the suit?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:56 PM (GBKbO)
_____

SantaCon is tomorrow, bruh.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 03:59 PM (iFTx/)

=======

SantaCon is every day in your heart if you believe in it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:00 PM (GBKbO)

168 166 So...thoughts on the suit?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:56 PM (GBKbO)
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Needs working LEDs so it literally lights up like a Christmas tree.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 04:00 PM (ESVrU)

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It does. I just didn't turn them on.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:01 PM (GBKbO)

169 I actually wonder if overperformance in specials now is a unique phenomenon that actually indicates D ceilings. I'm not sure how to work it out mathematically, but the specials from 2023 and 2024 indicated huge overperformance for D's in 2024.

But D's lost.

Is it that their coalition are becoming only the super voters? That their leaners have abandoned them in the aggregate? I don't know...not enough data to really even start an analysis.

But it's an interesting idea.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Get a Cook's Report guide or alternatively the Almanac of American politics now published by Oxford Press. Use the normal vote statistic as well as turnout statistics to determine a 'swing' in the special elections. Small n problem and you would have to deal with redistricting affecting normal vote totals in a few districts so you could do a time series study.

Don't be surprised if you get two different models--one for GOP and one for Democrats though.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 04:01 PM (WDjG6)

170 Hope you all don't blame me for California. Posted by: It's me donna

And don't blame me for Colorado. Like Superman, I live among them, but I am not one of them. Posted by: Don Black

I am in New Mexico so I can report on what the Santa Fe communists are doing. That and the green chiles.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions at December 12, 2025 04:01 PM (uv8gn)

171 SantaCon is tomorrow, bruh.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December

Oh man that's a drunken floozy shit show.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 04:01 PM (MGB5H)

172 Johnson said that they have over a dozen (14? 17? I don' remember) states in the redistricting pipeline. Trump said that it was because of some head of Senate and that he will throw support behind whoever primaries him.

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 04:01 PM (g47mK)

173 167 158 So...thoughts on the suit?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:56 PM (GBKbO)
_____

SantaCon is tomorrow, bruh.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 03:59 PM (iFTx/)

=======

SantaCon is every day in your heart if you believe in it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:00 PM (GBKbO)

He's too fat to fit in the shrine with the Easter Bunny.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 04:02 PM (ynpvh)

174 147 So...thoughts on the suit?

nicely tailored.

Posted by: anachronda at December 12, 2025 04:02 PM (v3pYe)

175 I just didn't turn them on.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


That's what the Barbi twins said.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 04:02 PM (77rzZ)

176 147 So...thoughts on the suit?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:56 PM (GBKbO)

Your outfit totally rocks!

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 12, 2025 04:02 PM (XfKE0)

177 Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 04:01 PM (MGB5H)

What is a SantaCon?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 04:02 PM (Nx5jP)

178 who are you wearing ?!

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 04:02 PM (g47mK)

179 171 SantaCon is tomorrow, bruh.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December

Oh man that's a drunken floozy shit show.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 04:01 PM (MGB5H)


Just make sure they're not dyslexic Satanists...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at December 12, 2025 04:02 PM (lQzuA)

180 You have to have a network to network. Some middle class kid fresh out of school isn't gonna have much of a network to tap into unless he can lean on connections of parents or family friends.
Posted by: bear

-

1000%

Other than one exception every job I’ve had, be it full time or consulting, has been through a connection. This includes my very first part time job in HS which I got because my neighbor knew the manager of the store where I worked. First summer internship in college was at a friend’s dad’s company.

Then once my career was established it was former co-workers, former managers or former clients that hooked me up.

And I did as well. It’s a 2 way street. Scratch people’s backs they’ll catch yours as well.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 04:02 PM (9iyS+)

181 Project much?
>>>>>Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 03:59 PM (77rzZ)

Project that I am...what? A blog busybody and wannabe moderator and scold? YES! You nailed it! So perceptive.

Posted by: Same Old at December 12, 2025 04:03 PM (/R1DT)

182 I dunno. How many special elections do you write off before you take it seriously? TN should have been a way bigger margin, and Miami was a disaster. You can perhaps say that people don’t get out to vote or in Miami the number of people voting was very small. But at what point do you realize turnout is a problem, tell the RNC to get off ther asses and stop relying on only Pressler as ther entire GOTV strategy. Fail.

Posted by: Vengeance at December 12, 2025 04:03 PM (bucPA)

183 178 who are you wearing ?!

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 04:02 PM (g47mK)

necrosuit?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 04:03 PM (ynpvh)

184 Same old. New handle. LOL

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 04:03 PM (Nx5jP)

185 What do you expect from a State that gave us Mike Pence
Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 03:25 PM (VE6XX)

We shouldn't be judging them by the State they live in...
I hope you all don't blame me for California
Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 03:47 PM (VE6XX)

So which is it?

Posted by: You're Right, a Nap is Actually a Bettter Use of My Time at December 12, 2025 04:04 PM (JCLJi)

186 What is a SantaCon?
Fake Beard

Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 12, 2025 04:04 PM (vd6bO)

187 So...thoughts on the suit?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:56 PM (GBKbO)
_____

SantaCon is tomorrow, bruh.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 03:59 PM (iFTx/)

=======

SantaCon is every day in your heart if you believe in it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:00 PM (GBKbO)
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Hope not. SC has become a grundle of drunken and belligerent tourists and bridge & tunnel locusts causing havoc in Manhattan.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 04:04 PM (iFTx/)

188 Any Ohioans here? I saw a poll that has Ramaswamy losing to the dem for Governor.. Is that true. ?. And yes I know Polls are questionable but it surprised me... I have to say I'm no fan of Ramaswamy but he'd be better than a dem

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 04:04 PM (VE6XX)

189
Here's a question - how are the R voters in IN reacting to this?

They're watching the Colts and the Pacers.
But not the Fever.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2025 04:04 PM (pkeXY)

190 179 171 SantaCon is tomorrow, bruh.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December

Oh man that's a drunken floozy shit show.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 04:01 PM (MGB5H)

Just make sure they're not dyslexic Satanists...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at December 12, 2025 04:02 PM (lQzuA)

And avoid the cereal convention...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 04:04 PM (ynpvh)

191 They released a photo today of Trump at a party with Epstein.. Of course Bill Clinton was in the picture too...
Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 03:37 PM (VE6XX)

I noticed they didn't say the year - because it's common knowledge that Trump knew him socially until he threw him out of Mar a Lago in 2004.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 04:05 PM (uWKK8)

192 >> TN should have been a way bigger margin

Why? The margin was almost exactly the R+10 makeup of the electorate.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 04:05 PM (viF8m)

193 >>>>>>Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:54 PM (GBKbO)

The problem isn't Dem ascendency. It is lack of Republican energy without Trump.

Posted by: Same Old at December 12, 2025 04:05 PM (/R1DT)

194 Same old. New handle. LOL
Posted by: Fen


You're going to be able to sit at home with your kid and troll hunt if you do not take everybody's advice

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:06 PM (Nmj5t)

195 Like talking to a smartass engineer, eh, Fen? You ask a serious question, and you have to endure through five or six smartass answers before you get the real one...

Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 12, 2025 04:06 PM (vd6bO)

196 185 What do you expect from a State that gave us Mike Pence
Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 03:25 PM (VE6XX)

We shouldn't be judging them by the State they live in...
I hope you all don't blame me for California
Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 03:47 PM (VE6XX)
So which is it?


The State not the Moron/ettes who converse here




Posted by: You're Right, a Nap is Actually a Bettter Use of My Time at December 12, 2025 04:04 PM (JCLJi)

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 04:06 PM (VE6XX)

197 SantaCon is tomorrow, bruh.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December

Oh man that's a drunken floozy shit show.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 04:01 PM (MGB5H)
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Was fun back in the day, but now it's all drunken tourist retards and angry B&T bros and creeps. Real New Yorkers stay far away.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 04:06 PM (iFTx/)

198 Well, if a person is not much of a networker it's a skill they have to learn.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 03:46 PM (ix8EF)

So you endorse being a fraud and have a very dim view of friendship. Not to mention you applaud corruption and sneer at merit.

Well done.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 12, 2025 04:06 PM (rQwsY)

199 >> Why? The margin was almost exactly the R+10 makeup of the electorate.

Math, dude. Put down the bowl and look at that district, then do a relative comparison.

Posted by: Vengeance at December 12, 2025 04:07 PM (bucPA)

200 Project that I am...what? A blog busybody and wannabe moderator and scold? YES! You nailed it! So perceptive.
Posted by: Same Old

Dude, not everybody is cut out for networking. I know I'm not. With the exception of one summer job when I was in college (which was basically a lucky fluke), I've never networked to find a job.

Like I said above, go have a beer and chill out. Stop being a prick.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 04:07 PM (77rzZ)

201 182 I dunno. How many special elections do you write off before you take it seriously? TN should have been a way bigger margin, and Miami was a disaster."

Hardly a disaster - saw the background that the losing candidate had sued the city to force elections to take place a year earlier than they wanted to, and the mess of that made a lot of people dislike him. It was just a case of a bad candidate.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 04:07 PM (uWKK8)

202 195 Like talking to a smartass engineer, eh, Fen? You ask a serious question, and you have to endure through five or six smartass answers before you get the real one...

Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 12, 2025 04:06 PM (vd6bO)

Well, this IS a Smart™(ass) Blog...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 04:07 PM (ynpvh)

203 The best way to get a job is to be employed. Get something, anything. Go to temp agencies and see what they have. Not your ideal job? Got it. Keep doing it until ideal happens. Also:
1. Get your resume done professionally
2. Get connected with a recruiter and make them love you. They are the ones with connections until you make your own.
3. Look into rolls that sort of fit.
4. You should have a pretty solid understanding of what you will be asked in an interview- write your answers down and practice them. Have a situation, a response and the outcome ready.
5. Don’t say your weakness is being too kind/ smart/ hard working. Be genuine and say how you plan to counter it. Give real examples.
6. Never, ever, ever bash your old job, employer, or give any indication you may be a high touch employee.
7. Apply for everything. Not one job at a time . Work with your recruiter here.

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 04:07 PM (ZdaMQ)

204 Same old. New handle. LOL
>>>>>Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 04:03 PM (Nx5jP)

You are entirely ignorant of who I am. That you are confident in your wrongness speaks volumes about you.

Posted by: Same Old at December 12, 2025 04:07 PM (/R1DT)

205 They released a photo today of Trump at a party with Epstein.. Of course Bill Clinton was in the picture too...
Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 03:37 PM (VE6XX)


I wonder how Bill feels about the chance he is going to be thrown under the bus to attack Trump?

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 04:07 PM (rbvCR)

206 Was fun back in the day, but now it's all drunken tourist retards and angry B&T bros and creeps. Real New Yorkers stay far away.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at

Every fun thing for locals anywhere gets ruined by the locusts co opting it.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 04:07 PM (MGB5H)

207 Seriously, people, look at OH-6 from last year.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:07 PM (GBKbO)

208 Posted by: Cow Demon at December 12, 2025 04:06 PM (rQwsY)

What? I do none of those things.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 04:08 PM (Nx5jP)

209 Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 04:01 PM (MGB5H)

What is a SantaCon?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 04:02 PM (Nx5jP)
_____

Annual pub crawl where everyone is in Santa costumes. The biggest and most famous (or infamous) is in lower Manhattan.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 04:08 PM (iFTx/)

210 BOOBS!
Posted by: Bulg

Sorry; it didn't do a thing for me😉
Posted by: FenelonSpoke


PECS!

* flexes *

Posted by: Paolo at December 12, 2025 04:08 PM (nhCoE)

211 207 Seriously, people, look at OH-6 from last year.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:07 PM (GBKbO)

The kids today say it's so Ohio for some reason...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 04:08 PM (ynpvh)

212 >You ask a serious question, and you have to endure through five or six smartass answers before you get the real one...
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Like this place!
tell me I'm wrong

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 04:09 PM (ZxPkt)

213 >>Math, dude. Put down the bowl and look at that district, then do a relative comparison.

What part of it's a R+10 district and the R won by 9 do you find difficult to understand? Is that too much math for you?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 04:09 PM (viF8m)

214 I asked the other day but has anyone seen Stateless here recently ?

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 04:09 PM (VE6XX)

215 The best way to get a job is to be employed. Get something, anything. Go to temp agencies and see what they have. Not your ideal job? Got it. Keep doing it until ideal happens. Also:
1. Get your resume done professionally
2. Get connected with a recruiter and make them love you. They are the ones with connections until you make your own.
3. Look into rolls that sort of fit.
4. You should have a pretty solid understanding of what you will be asked in an interview- write your answers down and practice them. Have a situation, a response and the outcome ready.
5. Don’t say your weakness is being too kind/ smart/ hard working. Be genuine and say how you plan to counter it. Give real examples.
6. Never, ever, ever bash your old job, employer, or give any indication you may be a high touch employee.
7. Apply for everything. Not one job at a time . Work with your recruiter here.
Posted by: Piper


youre not entirely wrong, however, it is often a detriment to have a job that is too far afield from the field you desire. There are lots of guys that get hired into the field right out of college, having to explain why youre clinging coffee instead of your desired job is harder

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:09 PM (Nmj5t)

216 202 195 Like talking to a smartass engineer, eh, Fen? You ask a serious question, and you have to endure through five or six smartass answers before you get the real one...

Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 12, 2025 04:06 PM (vd6bO)

Well, this IS a Smart™(ass) Blog...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 04:07 PM (ynpvh)
...and occasionally very very vulgar.

Posted by: Elizabeth Scalia at December 12, 2025 04:10 PM (vd6bO)

217 eriously, people, look at OH-6 from last year.


what have helicopters go to do with anything?

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:11 PM (Nmj5t)

218 Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 04:07 PM (ZdaMQ)

Thanks. The last job interview he had was through a recruiter. His resume is professionally done. He has been in touch with the supervisor at his last place he worked which ended end of August.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 04:11 PM (Nx5jP)

219 118 Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 03:50 PM (Nmj5t

Groovy. Bye.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke


Why be a dismissive bitch? He’s actually giving very good advice. It isn’t about your resume or your qualifications, it’s about who you know.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 12, 2025 04:11 PM (W2Pud)

220 years for a new party to become competitive for control. Canada is another example when the Progressive Conservative Party of Mulroney went belly up in the 1993 elections and did not regain even minority control of government until Harper in 2011. It was a long slog to get even over a hundred seats for Conservatives.
Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 03:54 PM (WDjG6)

January 2006. In May 2011 the Conservatives had an outright majority.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 12, 2025 04:11 PM (rQwsY)

221 Outside of Trump and MAGA, what are Repubs even for?

It's a target rich environment for reforming the Federal government. Have they even submitted a bill to eliminate the Department of Education?

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 12, 2025 04:12 PM (Vh9CX)

222 It's just the same old (heh, see what I did there) nitwits picking on Fen, for...reasons.

Fen is like Trump, she pisses off all the right people.

Fen, I am always in your corner. Well, unless you go out and drown puppies or something. But other than that, I'm here for you.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 04:12 PM (77rzZ)

223 Why be a dismissive bitch? He’s actually giving very good advice. It isn’t about your resume or your qualifications, it’s about who you know.
Posted by: nur


spits coffee and scotch over keyboard, desk, handgun

brb

smiley face

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:12 PM (Nmj5t)

224 >>Posted by: ckmeat at December 12, 2025 03:40 PM (icpM

Indiana Republicans are GOPe to the core because the Dems are, statewide, on the outside looking in. Astonished that Braun got in as governor.

Lived in Indiana for almost 20 years. madamemayhem & Bertram Cabot may disagree.

Posted by: Nazdar at December 12, 2025 04:12 PM (NcvvS)

225 >> What part of it's a R+10 district and the R won by 9 do you find difficult to understand? Is that too much math for you?

Last election was a 22 point margin and the Democrats over-performed this time by 12+ points.
But you go girl.

Posted by: Vengeance at December 12, 2025 04:12 PM (bucPA)

226 What is a SantaCon?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 04:02 PM (Nx5jP)
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Annual pub crawl where everyone is in Santa costumes. The biggest and most famous (or infamous) is in lower Manhattan.
_-_
But like an engineer, the Blade eventually delivers.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at December 12, 2025 04:12 PM (vd6bO)

227 t's just the same old (heh, see what I did there) nitwits picking on Fen, for...reasons.

Fen is like Trump, she pisses off all the right people.

Fen, I am always in your corner. Well, unless you go out and drown puppies or something. But other than that, I'm here for you.
Posted by: Bulg a


ecause she scolds everybody about everything?

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:13 PM (Nmj5t)

228 Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 04:12 PM (77rzZ)

Thanks. Have a good rest of the day. I need to go get dinner ready.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 04:13 PM (Nx5jP)

229 >>Last election was a 22 point margin and the Democrats over-performed this time by 12+ points.
But you go girl.

Last election was when Trump was running, dumbass.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 04:13 PM (viF8m)

230 I'm out...

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 04:14 PM (VE6XX)

231 What? I do none of those things.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 04:08 PM (Nx5jP)

That previous reply to you was one of the strangest non-sequitur replies I've seen for a while here. I try not to respond to any intentional flame posts, but that one made no sense whatsoever.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 04:14 PM (uWKK8)

232 Lotsa hostility here on a Friday night when we should all be looking forward to a good weekend, no?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 04:14 PM (iFTx/)

233 Special election have never been an indicator of anything other than a snapshot in time. Democrats are a little more motivated because they are angry and watching their power and world slip away thanks to Orange Satan.

What matters is the environment next November. If the economy starts roaring as is predicted it will be a completely different ballgame.
Posted by: JackStraw

Watch for GOP House retirements (they are always higher than Dems because of cmte chair term limits) and in swing Senate states, haven't bothered to look at 2026 map. Figure in new district effects.

Then you apply the macro economics and it will be tricky to use pres approval for analysis as Trump polls bad like Clinton did but that is as much personal approval instead of political.

The joker in the deck are terror attacks during the holidays--lots of plots busted up recently but the terrorists only need one breakdown. And then Venezuela.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 04:15 PM (WDjG6)

234 Dude, not everybody is cut out for networking. I know I'm not. With the exception of one summer job when I was in college (which was basically a lucky fluke), I've never networked to find a job.

Like I said above, go have a beer and chill out. Stop being a prick.
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 04:07 PM (77rzZ)

If I wanted to network and make strategic friends to find a job, I’d go into sales or be a politician.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 12, 2025 04:15 PM (rQwsY)

235 How have we gotten sand in our blog vagina? Seems like everyone is snippy as fuck lately.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 04:15 PM (zZu0s)

236 What matters is the environment next November. If the economy starts roaring as is predicted it will be a completely different ballgame.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 03:59 PM (viF8m)

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But it could also work against MAGA, if things are good people could get complacent and not bother voting.

Posted by: Decaf at December 12, 2025 04:16 PM (1RAfh)

237 youre not entirely wrong, however, it is often a detriment to have a job that is too far afield from the field you desire. There are lots of guys that get hired into the field right out of college, having to explain why youre clinging coffee instead of your desired job is harder
Posted by: n at December 12

Friend, I was the VP of Labor and Employee Relations for a very, very big corporation and VP of HR for an equally large company. J is a CHRO. There comes a point where people wonder why no one has hired you. Most people hired into their fields had a job offer prior to graduation from campus recruiting and internships. For Fen’s son. I would be as adjacent as I could to the roll I want. Lab tech anywhere and build my soft skills.

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 04:16 PM (ZdaMQ)

238 235 How have we gotten sand in our blog vagina? Seems like everyone is snippy as fuck lately.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 04:15 PM (zZu0s)

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You'd be amazed how much better you feel after liking and subscribing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:16 PM (GBKbO)

239 Because she scolds everybody about everything?
Posted by: n

She's never scolded me. Yes, she comments, sometimes snarkily, on the Mannix girls, but that's her shtick and it's part of the fun. And often she'll post counter pictures of fully covered women that are equal to or superior to Mannix'.

Maybe, if she scolds you, you deserve scolding.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 04:16 PM (77rzZ)

240 >>>What you thinking?
Big ol floppy knockers or a pair of teacups?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

>I'm thinking about a nicely formed wine glass with a fully robust bouquet.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 12, 2025 04:16 PM (1zOXE)

241 231 What? I do none of those things.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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Could be a disrupt type troll.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 04:17 PM (WDjG6)

242 >>The joker in the deck are terror attacks during the holidays--lots of plots busted up recently but the terrorists only need one breakdown. And then Venezuela.

Wouldn't surprise me if we have one or two issues pop up between now and next November that have an impact we can't even consider right now.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 04:17 PM (viF8m)

243 The democrats are a hot, steaming, fetid pile of dog squeeze.

The GOP is a bleached white by the sun, hair encrusted, dry and cracked pile of dog squeeze.

Posted by: You Shall Know Them By The Squeeze at December 12, 2025 04:17 PM (R/m4+)

244 Lotsa hostility here on a Friday night when we should all be looking forward to a good weekend, no?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 04:14 PM (iFTx/)

I am looking at working straight through until Christmas eve and yet I seem to be a in a better mood than most.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 04:17 PM (zZu0s)

245 Lotsa hostility here on a Friday night when we should all be looking forward to a good weekend, no?
Posted by: Elric The Blade

It's not happy hour here yet.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 04:17 PM (MGB5H)

246 Dude, not everybody is cut out for networking. I know I'm not. With the exception of one summer job when I was in college (which was basically a lucky fluke), I've never networked to find a job.

Like I said above, go have a beer and chill out. Stop being a prick.
Posted by: Bulg


that somebody does not enjoy something does not mean it is not necessary, it is a bit sad suggesting he not do wht is necessary to get what he wants before his first job

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:17 PM (Nmj5t)

247 244 Lotsa hostility here on a Friday night when we should all be looking forward to a good weekend, no?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 04:14 PM (iFTx/)

I am looking at working straight through until Christmas eve and yet I seem to be a in a better mood than most.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 04:17 PM (zZu0s)

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I filmed two videos and feel kind of exhausted.

The ranking videos are super simple to edit, but they are a bitch to film.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:18 PM (GBKbO)

248 You'd be amazed how much better you feel after liking and subscribing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I did and I became positively edified. YMMV.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 04:18 PM (WDjG6)

249 >I'm thinking about a nicely formed wine glass with a fully robust bouquet.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 12, 2025 04:16 PM (1zOXE)

So you are thinking Amanda Peet in Whole Nine Yards.

Excellent choice, sir.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 04:18 PM (zZu0s)

250 248 You'd be amazed how much better you feel after liking and subscribing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I did and I became positively edified. YMMV.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 04:18 PM (WDjG6)

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See?!?!?!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:18 PM (GBKbO)

251 Being a Boob Somelier would be pretty fucking awesome.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 04:18 PM (zZu0s)

252 sockoff

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2025 04:18 PM (IaZ7c)

253 >> Last election was when Trump was running, dumbass.

Take another hit, straw dick. It was 21.9 prior election and before that above 40.

Posted by: Vengeance at December 12, 2025 04:18 PM (z0cWr)

254 So you are thinking Amanda Peet in Whole Nine Yards.

Excellent choice, sir.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 04:18 PM (zZu0s)

Surprise boobs are sometimes the best boobs.

Posted by: Nice when expected too at December 12, 2025 04:19 PM (TbWk/)

255 253 >> Last election was when Trump was running, dumbass.

Take another hit, straw dick. It was 21.9 prior election and before that above 40.

Posted by: Vengeance at December 12, 2025 04:18 PM (z0cWr)

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The 2020 election was a different congressional map.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:19 PM (GBKbO)

256 Our own "representatives" are scheming with the Democrats to bring Trump down.

They & theirs build wealth, contacts, practical governmental knowledge, and so on. They're not going to provide a "living wage," all forms of insurance from birth- to-death, worthless (keep busy) education and so on to the masses. We are. (They and theirs will stand to the side out of the fray, like ghosts, or mouth off inexplicably like MTG.)

They all want Trump to repair some of the visible Biden damage. That's all, no deeper. And then the giveaways begin again.

BTW, my local county: (Write what you know)
"According to the Court Financial Services department, the total amount of unpaid criminal fines in Delaware County from January 1, 2022 to January 1, 2024 was $20,598,484.36."
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Delco residents prepare for a 19% property tax hike - the second double-digit increase they face in two years. (The 2025 Budget increased taxes by 23%.)

We have 50501 rallies; a potential for an HRC Ordinance that allows a panel to decide fines, punishment; a prison crisis (now operated by the county vs GEO); outrageous county legal expenses; a huge, unneeded Health Department, The Family Village, etc.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 12, 2025 04:19 PM (NFX2v)

257 She's never scolded me. Yes, she comments, sometimes snarkily, on the Mannix girls, but that's her shtick and it's part of the fun. And often she'll post counter pictures of fully covered women that are equal to or superior to Mannix'.

Maybe, if she scolds you, you deserve scolding.
Posted by: Bulg


yore something of a scold /scoldette pariring, scolding is her thing, she decides to come here, bitch about vulgarity , sex talk, why?

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:19 PM (Nmj5t)

258 Lotsa hostility here on a Friday night when we should all be looking forward to a good weekend, no?
Posted by: Elric The Blade

It's just a couple of lobopodians.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 04:19 PM (77rzZ)

259 235 How have we gotten sand in our blog vagina? Seems like everyone is snippy as fuck lately.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 04:15 PM (zZu0s)

It's Festivus. The Airing of Grievances.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 12, 2025 04:19 PM (z5QST)

260 The GOPe still refuses to believe that we are on a simmering civil war. The signs are right in their faces but they get there "campaign contributions" and they're happy idiots
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Remember:
Almost no elected Republicans or their staff read or watch news outside the mainstream.
It's not just that they refuse to believe, they trust the media more than they trust their voters.
So even if you showed them the truth, they'd still dismiss it.
I mean, Trump nearly assainated, Kirk killed and ... Trumps intemperate tone is the real problem in America today, they'd scold.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 04:19 PM (aQ+cU)

261 Lotsa hostility here on a Friday night when we should all be looking forward to a good weekend, no?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 04:14 PM (iFTx/)

I am looking at working straight through until Christmas eve and yet I seem to be a in a better mood than most.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 04:17 PM (zZu0s)

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I filmed two videos and feel kind of exhausted.

The ranking videos are super simple to edit, but they are a bitch to film.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:18 PM (GBKbO)
_________

"How do you think we feel after shooting our vids?"

-- OF Girls

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 04:19 PM (iFTx/)

262 It's not happy hour here yet.
Posted by: BruceWayne
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Hour before happy hour is unhappy hour.

That is the hour of the day that the delirium tremens start. Can't take medicine until 5 for it.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 04:19 PM (WDjG6)

263 >>The 2020 election was a different congressional map.

With a multi-term incumbent.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 04:19 PM (viF8m)

264 TJM while you advocate seeing particular movies, I am sadly stuck with what's on TV movie channels

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 04:20 PM (Ia/+0)

265 Lotsa hostility here on a Friday night when we should all be looking forward to a good weekend, no?
Posted by: Elric The Blade

It's just a couple of lobopodians.
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 04:19 PM (77rzZ)
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[Golf clap]

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 04:20 PM (iFTx/)

266 Being a Boob Somelier would be pretty fucking awesome.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 04:18 PM (zZu0s)

Especially the decanting and letting them breathe.

Posted by: Fresh air is what they need and deserve at December 12, 2025 04:20 PM (TbWk/)

267 Watch for GOP House retirements (they are always higher than Dems because of cmte chair term limits) and in swing Senate states, haven't bothered to look at 2026 map. Figure in new district effects.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 04:15 PM (WDjG6)
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Always have to watch those Pubs.

Seat-fillers.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 04:20 PM (krQz2)

268 261
"How do you think we feel after shooting our vids?"

-- OF Girls

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 04:19 PM (iFTx/)

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I love Operatic Fundamentals videos, but they're probably really hard on the throat.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:20 PM (GBKbO)

269 264 TJM while you advocate seeing particular movies, I am sadly stuck with what's on TV movie channels

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 04:20 PM (Ia/+0)

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You'd be amazed what Google searches can turn up.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:21 PM (GBKbO)

270
Indiana Republicans are GOPe to the core because the Dems are, statewide, on the outside looking in. Astonished that Braun got in as governor.

Lived in Indiana for almost 20 years. madamemayhem & Bertram Cabot may disagree.
Posted by: Nazdar


No disagreement here!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2025 04:21 PM (pkeXY)

271 Especially the decanting and letting them breathe.

Posted by: Fresh air is what they need and deserve at December 12, 2025 04:20 PM (TbWk/)
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"How can they breathe under that sweater?!"

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 04:21 PM (krQz2)

272 Just got here. What's going on? It's late Friday - shouldn't we be talking Star Trek by now?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 12, 2025 04:21 PM (LxER7)

273 @RapidResponse47
·
3h
Incompetent scumbag Tim Walz says it's a "pretty hard reach" to expect the Somali community to not engage in the massive theft of tax dollars, criticizes @POTUS
for calling them out:

"Each community's got this... Donald Trump brought this to the attention... very dangerous."

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 04:21 PM (ZxPkt)

274 Being a Boob Somelier would be pretty fucking awesome.
Posted by: Aetius



who wants a job opening a bra and giving the contents to somebody else to lick and sniff and otherwise enjoy?

that is what you get without networking, simpery

smiley face

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:22 PM (Nmj5t)

275 235 How have we gotten sand in our blog vagina? Seems like everyone is snippy as fuck lately.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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You forgot it is soon Festivus. People are practicing reciting grievances.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 04:22 PM (WDjG6)

276 @AP
·
4h
BREAKING: Trump is sued by preservationists who are seeking architecture review and congressional approval over his White House ballroom project.

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 04:22 PM (ZxPkt)

277 I love Operatic Fundamentals videos, but they're probably really hard on the throat.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 04:20 PM (GBKbO)

That's what she said.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 04:22 PM (zZu0s)

278 >>>Being a Boob Somelier would be pretty fucking awesome.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone

>I'm with you. Let's go with your top 10 selections this evening.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 12, 2025 04:23 PM (1zOXE)

279 who wants a job opening a bra and giving the contents to somebody else to lick and sniff and otherwise enjoy?

David French.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 12, 2025 04:23 PM (z5QST)

280 224
My senator voted the right way. So much for my plan to punish with my vote.
Anyway, I don’t think the GOPe screwed us because they don’t understand or care about the threat the’Rats pose.
I think they’re all too aware of the threat and voted this way because they’re afraid of the ‘Rats.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 12, 2025 04:23 PM (jbnUc)

281 278 >>>Being a Boob Somelier would be pretty fucking awesome.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone

>I'm with you. Let's go with your top 10 selections this evening.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 12, 2025 04:23 PM (1zOXE)

Topless 10

Posted by: Amiright or amiright? at December 12, 2025 04:23 PM (TbWk/)

282 Just got here. What's going on? It's late Friday - shouldn't we be talking Star Trek by now?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher

Is that the one with Jar Jar Binks in it? I hate that character.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 04:23 PM (77rzZ)

283 who wants a job opening a bra and giving the contents to somebody else to lick and sniff and otherwise enjoy?

David French.
Posted by: bear w




smiley face

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:23 PM (Nmj5t)

284 Also. Why are you a barista? I accepted this role as I understand the tightness of the current labor market. While I was working toward a role more in line with my education and experience, I decided to capitalize on the time and improve areas I recognized as being ones that do not come as naturally to me. I can be introverted. This pushed me out of my comfort zone, it has challenged me to focus on customer engagement and teamwork across a wide range of personality types. I have learned the need to hustle all while ensuring I deliver on orders flawlessly. It has been a tremendous learning experience and has helped me be better equipped for larger roles.

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 04:24 PM (ZdaMQ)

285 Hoosier here. My state senator is GOPe… it’s maddening. Hasn’t had a primary challenger forever. Even my local patriot group is GOPe… they cast me out for reminding them of Marlin Stutzman’s traitorous behavior/ loyalty to Boehner. It’s hopeless. The voters are conservative but the party is infested with boomer idiots.

Posted by: Cooldawg at December 12, 2025 04:24 PM (W5L9o)

286 Is that the one with Jar Jar Binks in it? I hate that character.
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 04:23 PM (77rzZ)

Wait, I thought he was that Cylon spy?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 12, 2025 04:24 PM (LxER7)

287 Nothing I. That White House Wing was worth squat historically

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 04:24 PM (Ia/+0)

288 It's not happy hour here yet.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 04:17 PM (MGB5H)


The fuck it isn't!

I am going to pour a bourbon, come back, and pull this blog over if people don't shut the fuck up.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 12, 2025 04:25 PM (n9ltV)

289 I saw news that thimerosol (Hg compound) is out for good in USA vaccines now. That sounds like a good idea. Then I started thinking, what are they replacing it with. 2-phenoxyethanol.

Wikipedia sez "Phenoxyethanol is a vaccine preservative and potential allergen, which may result in a nodular reaction at the site of injection. Possible symptoms include rashes, eczema, and possible death."

Posted by: gp at December 12, 2025 04:25 PM (GHIyr)

290 Thinking a cognac before dinner, to warm the body and soul

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 04:25 PM (Ia/+0)

291 269 264 TJM while you advocate seeing particular movies, I am sadly stuck with what's on TV movie channels

Posted by: Skip
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Do you have internet hooked up to your tv? Several ways to do that either with a smart tv, roku box, or even some bluray players do it.

Lots of free oldish movies and old tv series on streaming channels albeit with ads and perhaps annoying time compression and editing for length.

Ditto for urban areas where you have a lot of digital subchannels with an antenna you can receive.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 04:25 PM (WDjG6)

292 Also. Why are you a barista? I accepted this role as I understand the tightness of the current labor market. While I was working toward a role more in line with my education and experience, I decided to capitalize on the time and improve areas I recognized as being ones that do not come as naturally to me. I can be introverted. This pushed me out of my comfort zone, it has challenged me to focus on customer engagement and teamwork across a wide range of personality types. I have learned the need to hustle all while ensuring I deliver on orders flawlessly. It has been a tremendous learning experience and has helped me be better equipped for larger roles.
Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 04:24 PM (ZdaMQ)

That is scary good corpo HR slop and I mean that in the best way possible. They talk like space aliens trying to be human.

Posted by: Leveraging core competencies in customer facing roles at December 12, 2025 04:26 PM (TbWk/)

293 Friend, I was the VP of Labor and Employee Relations for a very, very big corporation and VP of HR for an equally large company. J is a CHRO. There comes a point where people wonder why no one has hired you. Most people hired into their fields had a job offer prior to graduation from campus recruiting and internships. For Fen’s son. I would be as adjacent as I could to the roll I want. Lab tech anywhere and build my soft skills.
Posted by: Piper



friend, I was hired out of college straight to the top Wall Street firm and have been in top tier finance ever since. I am right.

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:26 PM (Nmj5t)

294 Phenoxyethanol is a vaccine preservative and potential allergen, which may result in a nodular reaction at the site of injection. Possible symptoms include rashes, eczema, and possible death."
Posted by: gp
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Well, we have to kill the patients in order to save the patients.

Posted by: public health service at December 12, 2025 04:26 PM (WDjG6)

295 237 I would be as adjacent as I could to the roll I want.

make mine a kaiser roll, please.

Posted by: anachronda at December 12, 2025 04:27 PM (v3pYe)

296 Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 04:24 PM (ZdaMQ)



"why were you a Paranomal Guide ?"

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 04:27 PM (g47mK)

297 It's 5 o'clock somewhere. Alan Jackson and Jimmy Buffet said so.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 12, 2025 04:27 PM (3Ope8)

298 For too long, we've avoided dealing with our Indiana Problem.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at December 12, 2025 04:27 PM (8AONa)

299 295 237 I would be as adjacent as I could to the roll I want.

make mine a kaiser roll, please.
Posted by: anachronda at December 12, 2025 04:27 PM (v3pYe)

Cinnamon. Fresh out of the oven.

Posted by: Mmmm...Cinnabon at December 12, 2025 04:27 PM (TbWk/)

300 friend, I was hired out of college straight to the top Wall Street firm and have been in top tier finance ever since.
Posted by: n


You just shot any credibility you may have had by telling us that.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 04:28 PM (77rzZ)

301 285
‘ The voters are conservative but the party is infested with boomer idiots.’

The boomer problem will sort itself out with Father Time’s help. I hope we last that long.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 12, 2025 04:28 PM (jbnUc)

302 You just shot any credibility you may have had by telling us that.
Posted by: Bulg


are you getting ready for another apology thread now?

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:29 PM (Nmj5t)

303 I am going to pour a bourbon, come back, and pull this blog over if people don't shut the fuck up.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 12, 2025 04:25 PM (n9ltV)

But Officer CBD, isn't that contra to the raison detre of a comment section?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 04:29 PM (zZu0s)

304 friend, I was hired out of college straight to the top Wall Street firm and have been in top tier finance ever since. I am right.

===

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 04:29 PM (g47mK)

305 https://is.gd/27WwB6

NSFW

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 12, 2025 04:29 PM (n9ltV)

306 "Possible symptoms include rashes, eczema, and possible death."

OK, first of all, the use of 'Possible' at the beginning of the sentence applies to the whole sentence. So, factoring out the dundancy:

"Possible symptoms include rashes, eczema, and death."

And then B, I conject that whatever preservative you put in there, you're going to die, whether you get injections or not.

Posted by: gp at December 12, 2025 04:29 PM (GHIyr)

307 I do watch YouTube movies, can watch them straight on TV.
Have to see how to get TCM back, lost it getting all HD TV

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 04:29 PM (Ia/+0)

308 296 Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 04:24 PM (ZdaMQ)



"why were you a Paranomal Guide ?"
Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 04
Last time we played this game I think I ended up writing everyone’s self assessment! It also spawned a corporate speak competition which I believe I won and someone accused me of cheating because I played at that level. Was I proud? No! It was vomit inducing non-speak! And I am on my phone because my iPad has a black screen of death so the typos would be even more hysterical.

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 04:31 PM (ZdaMQ)

309 "Well, we have to kill the patients in order to save the patients."

Old and busted: Big Mercury.
New Hotness: Big Phenoxyethanol.

Posted by: gp at December 12, 2025 04:31 PM (GHIyr)

310 are you getting ready for another apology thread now?
Posted by: n

For what, Mr. Master of the Universe?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 04:31 PM (77rzZ)

311 They are all trying to hold onto the Fed and State money having illegals in their counties bring them.

Posted by: sidney at December 12, 2025 04:31 PM (Uy/WF)

312 nood

Posted by: gp at December 12, 2025 04:31 PM (GHIyr)

313 >>Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2025 04:21 PM (pkeXY)

Bertram, here's an Illinois escapee, living in a tiny town, in a county with fewer people than the city of my third to twenty-second years. Home at last, and loving it. Cripes, Todd Young was my congressman. Been watching the pols take their turns, moving up the ladder.

Posted by: Nazdar at December 12, 2025 04:31 PM (NcvvS)

314 For what, Mr. Master of the Universe?
Posted by: Bulg


same as yesterday, go nuts, have everybody beg you to be quiet, write a half dozen apology comments.

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:32 PM (Nmj5t)

315 https://is.gd/27WwB6

NSFW
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Very nice, thanks. Do we know her name?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 04:33 PM (77rzZ)

316 friend, I was hired out of college straight to the top Wall Street firm and have been in top tier finance ever since. I am right.
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:26 PM (Nmj5t)

Not all degrees work the same, nor are all industries the same. Finance/accounting and the big 5/big Wall Street works by hiring all the brightest college kids, working them like dogs, and having 90% self-select and quit within 4 years.

That's not how other fields work. Piper is right. Fen's son needs to get a job and then while working that job (no matter what it is), work back towards his more ideal job. My graduate this year took a PT job that got her licensed, and parlayed that into a FT job after 2 months on the PT job (and then quit that). For a new college grad, it's WAY easier to get a job if you have a job (I mean, my kid needed 4 professional references for her FT job (and they all got contacted)- where would she have gotten them without her PT job, b/c she only had 2 jobs in college b/c they were multi-year, so only 2 there)...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2025 04:33 PM (tOcjL)

317 Who cares. The Dems will never convict in an impeachment.

Posted by: Prickly Pete Salmonella at December 12, 2025 04:33 PM (dFG8E)

318 315 Never mind, I see that it's Brooklyn Decker.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 04:34 PM (77rzZ)

319 That's not how other fields work. Piper is right. Fen's son needs to get a job and then while working that job (no matter what it is), work back towards his more ideal job. My graduate this year took a PT job that got her licensed, and parlayed that into a FT job after 2 months on the PT job (and then quit that). For a new college grad, it's WAY easier to get a job if you have a job (I mean, my kid needed 4 professional references for her FT job (and they all got contacted)- where would she have gotten them without her PT job, b/c she only had 2 jobs in college b/c they were multi-year, so only 2 there)...
Posted by: No


you have not read everything, it is best if he goes straight to his field,

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:34 PM (Nmj5t)

320 who wants a job opening a bra and giving the contents to somebody else to lick and sniff and otherwise enjoy?

that is what you get without networking, simpery

smiley face
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:22 PM (Nmj5t)
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You do realize that sommeliers taste and sample all of the wines before they serve them, right?

Posted by: ballistic at December 12, 2025 04:34 PM (3BwY8)

321 >>>@57 Thanks for asking. He was supposed to hear today about the last interview. The fact that he didn't probably means he didn't get it. Oh, well, he is applying through his university job portal for another position. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 03:39 PM (ix8EF)
==============
Greetings, Fen ... Lately, I've noticed a lot of advertisements for hydroponic systems ... If growing vegetables without soil is something that interests your son, maybe he could find a business in your area which sells them and chat them up about either a job or an internship.

Posted by: Kathy at December 12, 2025 04:35 PM (zuKcR)

322 It's 5 o'clock somewhere. Alan Jackson and Jimmy Buffet said so.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead



It's 10am in Russia, which amounts to the same thing.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2025 04:35 PM (0U5gm)

323 You do realize that sommeliers taste and sample all of the wines before they serve them, right?
Posted by: ba


yeah, who wants that, its basically cuckery to warm up a great set of boobs and hand them off to somebody else

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:36 PM (Nmj5t)

324 Always have to watch those Pubs.

Seat-fillers.
Posted by: Axeman

Modern GOP, like Tories, is simply not a governing party. They are basically when in power, negotiators with the Dems for a scrap of pizza crust.

Trump bewildered them in his first term because he actually meant to govern and govern well. GOP toads like McConnell, Ryan, and McCain were confused as they assumed the role of the GOP was to be a doormat to the Democrats but collect some swell grifting in consequence.

In his second term, they are grimly trying to wait him out. Same thing going on with the Eurotrash, the supposedly conservative parties are trying to wait out the popular parties and back stab them on a regular basis for muh EU, muh WEF, and muh Ukraine. Vile and evil in general (lawful evil) but cowards. Leftists are batshit crazy evil (chaotic evil).

If the Democrats were not chaotic evil and Communist and that we likely would have the last free and fair election if they win control: then I wouldn't piss on an average GOP critter in office if they were on fire.

Posted by: public health service at December 12, 2025 04:36 PM (WDjG6)

325 Off sock. I always forget to take off dirty socks.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 04:36 PM (WDjG6)

326 same as yesterday, go nuts, have everybody beg you to be quiet, write a half dozen apology comments.
Posted by: n

I did that because I started arguing theology with the Catholics here, and decided that that was inappropriate and wanted to bury the hatchet with them.

I've got nothing to apologize to you for, Dickweed.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 04:36 PM (77rzZ)

327 Greetings, Fen ... Lately, I've noticed a lot of advertisements for hydroponic systems ... If growing vegetables without soil is something that interests your son, maybe he could find a business in your area which sells them and chat them up about either a job or an internship.
Posted by: Kathy at December 12, 2025 04:35 PM (zuKcR)
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Failing a bumper crop of tomatoes he could also grow some really dank weed.

Posted by: ballistic at December 12, 2025 04:37 PM (3BwY8)

328 I did that because I started arguing theology with the Catholics here, and decided that that was inappropriate and wanted to bury the hatchet with them.

I've got nothing to apologize to you for, Dickweed.
Posted by: Bulg


it is in the thread smart guy, everybody saw what you did, why you had your apology tour.

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:37 PM (Nmj5t)

329 I accepted the role of paranormal guide for multiple reasons. As a Mechanical Engineer, I found I was able to use my skillset in tactical as well as creative ways. I was able to design, build and test new equipment for reaching the great beyond, as well as repair and understand current technology with an eye toward improvements. I was also able to work on listening comprehension as Ghosts may communicate quietly or using non traditional methods. I challenged myself to be open to new ideas, and not discount even improbable possibilities.

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 04:38 PM (ZdaMQ)

330
Delco residents prepare for a 19% property tax hike - the second double-digit increase they face in two years. (The 2025 Budget increased taxes by 23%.)

We have 50501 rallies; a potential for an HRC Ordinance that allows a panel to decide fines, punishment; a prison crisis (now operated by the county vs GEO); outrageous county legal expenses; a huge, unneeded Health Department, The Family Village, etc.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 12, 2025 04:19 PM (NFX2v)


Bulgaria's government is collapsing over riots about lower taxes than that. It may impede their entry into the EU

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 04:38 PM (rbvCR)

331 accepted the role of paranormal guide for multiple reasons. As a Mechanical Engineer, I found I was able to use my skillset in tactical as well as creative ways. I was able to design, build and test new equipment for reaching the great beyond, as well as repair and understand current technology with an eye toward improvements. I was also able to work on listening comprehension as Ghosts may communicate quietly or using non traditional methods. I challenged myself to be open to new ideas, and not discount even improbable possibilities.
Posted by: Piper


are you really a paranormal guide?

mechanical to paranormal very interesting not sure if it is totally logical or illogical, it is interesting

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:39 PM (Nmj5t)

332 I'd offer career advice but explaining how I got to be a cybersecurity guy over my career arc would just look like a drunkard yelling nonsense lol.

Posted by: ballistic at December 12, 2025 04:39 PM (3BwY8)

333 yore something of a scold /scoldette pariring, scolding is her thing, she decides to come here, bitch about vulgarity , sex talk, why?
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:19 PM (Nmj5t)


Well, you are famous about bitching that people aren't getting into enough flame wars, so fair is fair.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 04:40 PM (rbvCR)

334 Well, you are famous about bitching that people aren't getting into enough flame wars, so fair is fair.
Posted by: Kindl


yeah, however, flame wars about boobs and sex is not the same as bitching and moaning about the hq. Think of it as arguing over who the hottest whore in whorehouse, vs standing outside trying to close the whorehouse

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:41 PM (Nmj5t)

335 Wikipedia sez "Phenoxyethanol is a vaccine preservative and potential allergen, which may result in a nodular reaction at the site of injection. Possible symptoms include rashes, eczema, and possible death."
Posted by: gp at December 12, 2025 04:25 PM (GHIyr)


IT IS FOR THE CHILDREN, H8R!

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 04:44 PM (rbvCR)

336 friend, I was hired out of college straight to the top Wall Street firm and have been in top tier finance ever since. I am right.
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:26 PM (Nmj5t)



Your name is Geoffrey Epstein?

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 04:48 PM (rbvCR)

337 But wasn't Brandon opposed by all those others who took the opposite side in the debate?

Oh.

Never mind.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 12, 2025 04:49 PM (s0JqF)

338 you have not read everything, it is best if he goes straight to his field,
Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 04:34 PM (Nmj5t)


Could be, but then again he could show that he learned something outside of his field that would put him ahead of other people who have the same credentials. Like business management, customer service, equipment maintenance, or even "showing up on time every day instead of most of them" which is a big thing for new hires in starting positions.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 04:52 PM (rbvCR)

339 Farm-to-Table restaurants are another avenue Fen's son might like to explore.

Posted by: Kathy at December 12, 2025 05:12 PM (zuKcR)

340 No...it's massively reduced turnout.

Look at the numbers.

Miami was 100,000 fewer votes than last year.


Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:44 PM

Miami is also being taken over by Muslims and Saudi Arabia.

A Foreign Islamic Government Just Opened an Investment Command Center in Miami – And No One Asked the People of Florida

In February, Miami Mayor Francis Suarez proudly announced something no one in Florida voted for:

“The Saudi Investment Promotion Authority is opening its first-ever Invest Saudi office right here in Miami.”

He said this on stage at the FII Priority Summit — the Saudi state-backed investment conference often called “Davos in the Desert.”

This year, it was held on American soil - in Miami - with Donald Trump and major global power brokers applauding.

And in the middle of the ceremony, something unprecedented happened:

Saudi Arabia officially planted its first sovereign investment office in Florida – and only its second in the United States.

X: https://bit.ly/4iRO1l3

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 12, 2025 05:59 PM (P5BPp)

341 If SCOTUS gives LA clearance, Cleo Fields can go back under his rock

Posted by: hurricane567 at December 12, 2025 06:38 PM (1V/nS)

342 When is it not Christmas in December? The GOP is thoroughly laced with cucks and liberals not radical enough to garner Democrat support. They must be primaried in short order.

Posted by: Augusto Perez at December 12, 2025 08:20 PM (a5gr2)

343 Mike Pence = Mitch Daniels = Dubya = GOPe

'republicans' in Indiana OWN 4/5's of their legislature and couldn't do this?

Paymasters.

Posted by: Danimal28 at December 13, 2025 08:19 PM (iXm17)

BLM Grifter Indicted for, Get This, BLM Grifting

blmgrifterindicted.jpg


Criminals gonna crime.

A federal grand jury in Oklahoma City has delivered sweeping charges against a longtime Black Lives Matter figure, accusing her of siphoning donor money into a personal slush fund that allegedly financed Caribbean vacations, luxury shopping, and a string of real-estate purchases. According to reporting from Breitbart News, prosecutors say the case exposes how parts of the BLM movement operated far from the charitable mission donors were led to believe they were supporting.

Federal prosecutors announced Thursday that 52-year-old Tashella Sheri Amore Dickerson -- the executive director of Black Lives Matter Oklahoma City since 2016 -- now faces 25 felony counts, including twenty charges of wire fraud and five more of money laundering. U.S. Attorney Robert J. Troester confirmed the indictment, which carries maximum penalties adding up to 450 years in prison and millions in fines.

Senior Justice Department officials, speaking exclusively to Breitbart, framed the case as a test of their commitment to rooting out corruption inside organizations that have raised enormous sums under the banner of racial justice. Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche said the prosecution shows "how some in the group's leadership allegedly used donor money to bankroll their own lifestyles," adding that the department has "zero tolerance for any kind of fraud perpetrated against the American people." FBI Director Kash Patel echoed that message, telling Breitbart his agents are "following the money" wherever it leads.


...

Between June 2020 and October 2025, she allegedly deposited more than $2.35 million in returned bail checks directly into her own accounts. The DOJ says that money then financed:

Trips to Jamaica and the Dominican Republic for Dickerson and associates
"Tens of thousands" in retail shopping
Over $50,000 in food and grocery deliveries
A personal vehicle
Six Oklahoma City properties, purchased either in her name or through an entity she controlled

Prosecutors also accuse Dickerson of filing falsified annual reports with AFGJ that concealed the personal spending and claimed all funds were used for permissible charitable purposes.

...

If convicted on all counts, Dickerson could face one of the most severe fraud-related sentences in recent memory -- a dramatic fall for a figure who helped lead one of the state's most visible activist organizations during the peak of the Black Lives Matter movement.

In totally, completely, 100% unrelated news: "Tax the Rich" Socialist Socialite Alexandria Donkey-Chompers dropped $50,000 of donor money on luxury hotels and restaurants during her "vacations" from her "job."

All over a three month period!

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) dropped almost $50,000 on hotels and meals in Puerto Rico in the third quarter of this year -- as well as renting a San Juan venue where she was caught on tape grooving at an August Bad Bunny concert.

AOC's principal campaign committee shelled out $680.52 on July 28 to stay at the lavish Hotel Palacio Provincial, along with another $1,507.26 on Aug. 29 and a whopping $9,440,79 on Sept. 29, according to third quarter federal campaign finance filings -- even as the "Squad" rep on her social media accounts denounced gentrification that was taking place on the island.

The "first-class," "adults only" Palacio Provincial boasts of being "situated within an historic early 19th century building" with "transcendent hints of the structure's grand colonial past."

On Aug. 25, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for Congress also paid $3,861.20 to Hotel El Convento, another 19th century property touting its "old world charm and elegance," the Federal Election Commission filings show.


In all, the campaign forked over $15,489.77 for lodging in Puerto Rico between July 1 and Sept. 30.

At least $10,743.13 was spent on meals and catering services on Aug. 25 and Sept. 29, per the FEC filings for that period.

...

Ocasio-Cortez's campaign spent more than $23,000 on "venue rental" at the same location, the Coliseo De Puerto Rico, on June 24 and Aug. 25. It's unclear whether the expenses were related to the Bad Bunny shows.

...

Fox News first reported on the filings, and a campaign manager for the congresswoman, Oliver Hidalgo-Wohlleben, responded in a statement to the outlet that Ocasio-Cortez "regularly travels to Puerto Rico to support local causes and host events that require both staff and security."

"She is deeply proud of her investment in grassroots organizing and will continue to be active in advocating for both people on the island and the millions of Puerto Ricans in the diaspora," Hidalgo-Wohlleben added.


Throughout the third quarter, the Ocasio-Cortez campaign spent thousands of dollars more on various "boutique" hotel stays and expensive food vendors on the US mainland -- including as part of her "Fighting Oligarchy" tour with socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

Those outlays included $6,600 for stays at the Hotel Vermont in Burlington.

Ocasio-Cortez's campaign coffers also were used for $2,000 lodging at the Thompson Central Park Hotel in Manhattan -- and a $3,000 stay at the Arlo Williamsburg in Brooklyn.


Other expenses included $6,300 for a meal at Italian restaurant Ama in the capitol's Navy Yard neighborhood.

Another $11,500 was shelled out for dining in DC, Vermont, the Bronx and Latham, NY, ice cream company Mr. Ding-a-ling.

Posted by: Ace at 02:23 PM




Comments

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1 yay

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 12, 2025 02:22 PM (CWTWj)

2 BLM personnel are crooked!? Umpossible.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2025 02:23 PM (cYBz/)

3 ok, i noodled

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 12, 2025 02:24 PM (CWTWj)

4 The point of leftwing politics is to get money and power.

It should be a surprise then that leftwing activists take any opportunity they get

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2025 02:24 PM (sKqQm)

5 Were all the BLM leaders thieves or just 100% of them?

Posted by: huerfano at December 12, 2025 02:25 PM (98kQX)

6 some people think that "the producers" was a guide to business

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 12, 2025 02:25 PM (CWTWj)

7 Were all the BLM leaders thieves or just 100% of them?
Posted by: huerfano

Embrace the power of 'and'.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2025 02:25 PM (cYBz/)

8 To be fair, AOCs donors are pretty willing whores.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 02:25 PM (zZu0s)

9 from each according to his ability, to each according to his appetite

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 12, 2025 02:26 PM (CWTWj)

10 Why are all these "women" fat repulsive megafauna?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 02:26 PM (iFTx/)

11 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at December 12, 2025 02:26 PM (5IH8V)

12 Sandy best stay out the Mr. Ding-a-Ling Ice Cream Shoppe. Her caboose is getting W-I-D-E.

Posted by: Cheesecake and a Tab at December 12, 2025 02:26 PM (oftw2)

13 Tashika is too fat to be Somali

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at December 12, 2025 02:26 PM (wBaIH)

14 BLM grifter with poor trigger discipline does what?!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 02:27 PM (kgE5c)

15 Sandy best stay out the Mr. Ding-a-Ling Ice Cream Shoppe. Her caboose is getting W-I-D-E.
Posted by: Cheesecake and a Tab

It's Braums round these parts.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 02:27 PM (MGB5H)

16 Criminals gonna crime
That's not what Jasmine Crockett says!

Posted by: GWB at December 12, 2025 02:27 PM (uTeza)

17 AOC: fighting the oligarchy by being the oligarchy.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 12, 2025 02:27 PM (3/kEz)

18 All these salt of the earth types turning out to be frauds. Shocking!

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 02:27 PM (ZdaMQ)

19 Tashella Sheri Amore Dickerson

It gets better. Her sisters are named Layonda I Just Called To Say I Love You Dickerson and Shaquonda You Are The Sunshine of My Life Dickerson.

Posted by: Delurker at December 12, 2025 02:28 PM (xNHSX)

20 Tashella looks like a fella. That's a man, baby.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 02:28 PM (77rzZ)

21 She looks like a potential future vice presidential dem candidate.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 02:28 PM (uWKK8)

22 Some judge is going to...wait for it...Dismiss the charges against Tashika any minute now.


Because of...wait for it...Racism!

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 12, 2025 02:28 PM (F4p3X)

23 Sandy is eating pretty well for an ex-bartender from the Bronx Yorktown Heights.

Posted by: huerfano at December 12, 2025 02:28 PM (98kQX)

24 If she is in a Leftist jurisdiction she won't be off the street for long.
Just getting her reparations you know

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 02:28 PM (Ia/+0)

25 OK looks like it has a lot of food security at least

Posted by: NCKate at December 12, 2025 02:29 PM (uQzkA)

26 AOC didn't have to spend all that $ to see Bad Bunny , just watch the Superbowl halftime show. Elitist scum

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2025 02:29 PM (D+mpw)

27 AOC really, really has to learn how to smile without showing those chompers.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 02:29 PM (77rzZ)

28 Man, those gums.

They are downright "aquiline"

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 12, 2025 02:29 PM (uxVjF)

29 Tashella Sheri Amore Dickerson

It gets better. Her sisters are named Layonda I Just Called To Say I Love You Dickerson and Shaquonda You Are The Sunshine of My Life Dickerson.

Posted by: Delurker at December 12, 2025 02:28 PM (xNHSX)

She's had more than enough pizza pie, that much is apparent.

Posted by: That's no moon...or maybe sorta is at December 12, 2025 02:29 PM (TbWk/)

30 She's such a cutey.
So feminine.
Don't you want to hug her?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 02:29 PM (lQBYU)

31 Bails Loot Millions

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 02:29 PM (/+FOE)

32 AOC: fighting the oligarchy by being the oligarchy.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit

I get it now!! Just like "Lion of the Senate, Man of the People (Woman really, drowning in the back of his car.)"

Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2025 02:29 PM (cYBz/)

33 Even the left doesn't talk about BLM very much any more because it has been so discredited and awful.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2025 02:30 PM (dfIr7)

34 The BLM grifter is a "reverend"...because of course she is.

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 02:30 PM (TN0g+)

35 Don't you want to hug her?

Posted by: Braenyard

It would take six of us.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2025 02:30 PM (cYBz/)

36 It is astonishing to me that someone could run up a $6,300 restaurant tab in Navy Yard. It used to be that the only places in NY were surrounded by bullet proof glass.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 02:30 PM (Riz8t)

37 she is in a Leftist jurisdiction she won't be off the street for long.
Just getting her reparations you know
Posted by: Skip at December

Federal
Court in OK. That ain't left.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 02:30 PM (MGB5H)

38 28 Man, those gums.

They are downright "aquiline"
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 12, 2025 02:29 PM (uxVjF)

I was thinking "equine."

Posted by: To each their own at December 12, 2025 02:30 PM (TbWk/)

39 Yo momma so fat jokes coming

Posted by: NCKate at December 12, 2025 02:31 PM (uQzkA)

40 Whose a better actress? AOC, Jazzmine, or Candy Ovens?

Posted by: Major Award at December 12, 2025 02:31 PM (oftw2)

41 Mr. Ding a Ling ? Seriously?

Posted by: Going deep. Out. at December 12, 2025 02:31 PM (URO9T)

42 Tashella Sheri Amore Dickerson
_________________________

LMAO...there was a black kid I grew up with who used to laugh at the bizarre names some black parents chose. His name was Henry (preferred Hank). I hadn't heard from him in years, and then last year I got an email with an article attached where the black girl's name was "Methadone".

I knew right away who had sent it to me. Hank the Tank (good football player).

Posted by: Orson at December 12, 2025 02:31 PM (dIske)

43 Man, those gums.

They are downright "aquiline"


Equine?

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 02:31 PM (Riz8t)

44 She has the complexion for protection. I'm surprised she was even the subject of a grand jury investigation.

Posted by: mr tmz at December 12, 2025 02:31 PM (rJ48h)

45 Big Larceny Mama

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 02:32 PM (/+FOE)

46 Some judge is going to...wait for it...Dismiss the charges against Tashika any minute now.


Because of...wait for it...Racism!
------

She's in Oklahoma. She's going to do time.

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 02:32 PM (TN0g+)

47 Don't you get behind that gal at The Golden Corral!

Posted by: TANK ABRAMS at December 12, 2025 02:32 PM (IUmF8)

48 One mans money laundering and wire fraud is just another mans reparations. That's how a Democrat appointed federal judge will see it.

Posted by: Dave's not here at December 12, 2025 02:33 PM (kp5iD)

49 Whose a better actress? AOC, Jazzmine, or Candy Ovens?
Posted by: Major Award

Jazzmine. Cause she does all those different accents. Like Meryl Streep.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 02:33 PM (77rzZ)

50 >>>It gets better. Her sisters are named Layonda I Just Called To Say I Love You Dickerson and Shaquonda You Are The Sunshine of My Life Dickerson.

blinding wit

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 02:33 PM (1wjle)

51 Yo momma so fat jokes coming
------

When that BLM grifter sits around the house, she sits *around* the house!

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 02:33 PM (TN0g+)

52 No trigger discipline. That land whale is about to shoot her left foot.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 02:33 PM (1Nv0l)

53 Man, those gums.

They are downright "aquiline"

Equine?


Also, Megadont.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 02:33 PM (Riz8t)

54 When is AOC getting married?
She's been engaged for over 3.5 years.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 12, 2025 02:33 PM (NpAcC)

55 They are downright "aquiline"

Equine?
Posted by: Archimedes

An aquiline nose is beaked, like an eagles. (not curved, but the Roman nose that has the sharp bend.)
Her gums reminded me of an eagle's beak. Bent in the middle and sticking out.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 12, 2025 02:34 PM (uxVjF)

56 Federal prosecutors announced Thursday that 52-year-old Tashella Sheri Amore Dickerson...

My Cheri Amore, pretty little one that I adore, your the only my heart longs for....Stevie Wonder never saw this one.

$50K large for food and groceries...LOL!

Posted by: Cheri at December 12, 2025 02:34 PM (oiNtH)

57 Yo momma so fat jokes coming
------

When that BLM grifter sits around the house, she sits *around* the house!
Posted by: Crusader at Decem

When you have sex with her you have to slap her thigh and ride the wave in.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 02:34 PM (MGB5H)

58 I think I'd be spending my campaign money on certificates of deposit or gold or stocks and bonds. Certainly not hotel stays and...looks back at post...a "Bad Bunny venue rental".

Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 02:35 PM (2L+MU)

59 She's so fat she sweats gravy

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2025 02:35 PM (D+mpw)

60 I notice these socialists don't spend a lot of time at Olive Garden and the Hampton inn. Which is where my greedy private business sends me.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at December 12, 2025 02:35 PM (s/0Zp)

61 I'm torn here because I kinda think anyone giving money to BLM deserves to be swindled.

Posted by: Bobby Hugbox at December 12, 2025 02:35 PM (C24tU)

62 Burglary Larceny Murder

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 02:35 PM (1Nv0l)

63 re 54: i think aoc calls him 'spouse' when it gets them special treatment in the house of reps

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 12, 2025 02:35 PM (CWTWj)

64 Some judge is going to...wait for it...Dismiss the charges against Tashika any minute now.


Because of...wait for it...Racism!
------

She's in Oklahoma. She's going to do time.

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 02:32 PM (TN0g+)



Are you telling me that Judge Boasberg doesn't have jurisdiction there???!!! Well, if he doesn't, somebody on the left will figure out how to give it to him.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 12, 2025 02:35 PM (F4p3X)

65 She's going to do time.

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 02:32 PM (TN0g+)

No. NO!!! Please!!! Anything but that!!

Posted by: Time at December 12, 2025 02:36 PM (/+FOE)

66 Don't you get upset when they call you fat, girl. Yo bigger than that.

Posted by: Paco at December 12, 2025 02:36 PM (2L+MU)

67 Huh...
When i worked for government, I was limited to a flat hotel and meal rate. Anything beyond that was out of my pocket.
I truly despise these people.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 02:36 PM (2WIwB)

68 54 When is AOC getting married?
She's been engaged for over 3.5 years.
Posted by: redridinghood
=========
Speculation is because if she does, then her new husband would have to fill out congressional financial disclosure forms. Engaged, not so. So he can inside trade, accept payments from assholes for lobbying, etc. all without much if any disclosure.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 02:36 PM (WDjG6)

69 She has her finger on the trigger, dumbass.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 12, 2025 02:36 PM (I7V7v)

70 Trigger discipline, bitch.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 12, 2025 02:36 PM (W2Pud)

71 I'm torn here because I kinda think anyone giving money to BLM deserves to be swindled.
Posted by: Bobby Hugbox

They get swindled the swindlers go to prison. Best of both worlds.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 02:36 PM (MGB5H)

72 Keep voting like it’s a team sport and trying for one party rule. Just please wear your Kick Me and Bend Me Over, sign.

There isn’t a single thing this dunce can claim she’s done for her alleged constituents. Not one.

Posted by: Vengeance at December 12, 2025 02:36 PM (PM/iv)

73 When is Patel going to go after Cortez?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 02:36 PM (lQBYU)

74 I notice these socialists don't spend a lot of time at Olive Garden and the Hampton inn. Which is where my greedy private business sends me.
Posted by: El Mariachi

I LOVE the breakfast buffets at Hampton Inns.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 02:36 PM (77rzZ)

75 58 I think I'd be spending my campaign money on certificates of deposit or gold or stocks and bonds. Certainly not hotel stays and...looks back at post...a "Bad Bunny venue rental".
Posted by: Paco

Given reelection rates, they figure that they can spend all that they can take in because that money will keep rolling in over their career. Plus, some is probably squirrelled away in number accounts abroad or in relatives names, trusts, etc.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 02:37 PM (WDjG6)

76 Huh...
When i worked for government, I was limited to a flat hotel and meal rate. Anything beyond that was out of my pocket.
I truly despise these people.


Haven't you heard? Anyone who works for the government is a rotten, lazy burden on the taxpayers, living in luxury and lighting cigars with $100 bills.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 02:38 PM (Riz8t)

77 If she goes down Golden Corral is in trouble.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 02:38 PM (1Nv0l)

78 When i worked for government, I was limited to a flat hotel and meal rate. Anything beyond that was out of my pocket.
I truly despise these people.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 02:36 PM (2WIwB)

Some per diems are more purdy than others.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2025 02:38 PM (Vq1pX)

79 Is it even wrong to take money from gullible shitlibs? The shitlibs got what they wanted, an unearned sense of moral superiority. I don’t see the crime here.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 12, 2025 02:38 PM (RQ8Pa)

80 Federal Court in OK. That ain't left.
Posted by: BruceWayne


Maybe not, but Oklahoma City is the Minneapolis of Democatia.

Posted by: mindful webworker - in my opinionated opinion at December 12, 2025 02:38 PM (lbDMw)

81 Que up the "nothing will happen" person to tell us nothing will hapen.

Posted by: Otto Q. Cumber at December 12, 2025 02:38 PM (pcnhy)

82 If she goes down Golden Corral is in trouble.
Posted by: Don't blame the alligators

Is Golden Corral still around? I thought Covid did it in.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 02:39 PM (77rzZ)

83 Was there anyone in the leadership of BLM who did anything to help any black people but themselves and their families? Whoever coined "Big Large Mansions" was accurate .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 02:39 PM (PFs9e)

84 Why are all these "women" fat repulsive megafauna?

As El Rushbo always said, feminism is a mechanism to funnel unattractive women into the mainstream of society.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2025 02:39 PM (2ocoG)

85 She went to Golden Corral once. The next day they went out of business.

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 02:39 PM (/+FOE)

86 She could have spent a little of those millions on clothes instead of a mansion and a sports car
Assuming she actually bought those like every million dollars criminal

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 02:39 PM (Ia/+0)

87 >>> When i worked for government, I was limited to a flat hotel and meal rate. Anything beyond that was out of my pocket.
I truly despise these people.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 02:36 PM (2WIwB)


And it has to be a low average level for the area. And the per diem is the absolute max, you're not getting but a fraction of that.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 12, 2025 02:39 PM (3uBP9)

88 This is low-hanging fruit. And might actually get a conviction.

But we'll see.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 02:39 PM (krQz2)

89 When you get to prison, have the salad, fatty.

Posted by: Vengeance at December 12, 2025 02:40 PM (PM/iv)

90 I LOVE the breakfast buffets at Hampton Inns.
Posted by: Bulg

Don't you get tired of the adults wearing their PJs down there? Nothing worse than the asshole soccer teams kicking their balls around at breakfast time too. They actually expect me to give them back.

Fools!!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2025 02:40 PM (cYBz/)

91 Just remember: they had those two Somali lobopodians dead to rights on that multi-million fraud scam and the jury convicted them in about 45 minutes. Then the AWFuL judge let them walk.

Odds that this fat farm animal walks? High.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 02:40 PM (iFTx/)

92 She went to Golden Corral once. The next day they went out of business.

You been heah foah...weeks! You go now!

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 02:40 PM (Riz8t)

93 - booger hook on boom button
- flagging her own foot

That's two out of four right there.

Someone get started on engraving her Darwin Award trophy.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2025 02:40 PM (Vq1pX)

94 Years ago read, ( before Trump administration) BLM for raising billion dollars never filed a tax form

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 02:40 PM (Ia/+0)

95 Don't these people ever eat at a Denny's?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2025 02:40 PM (pkeXY)

96 67 Huh...
When i worked for government, I was limited to a flat hotel and meal rate. Anything beyond that was out of my pocket.
I truly despise these people.
Posted by: Diogenes
-------

Your previous job does not make you electable in the PNW. When you move to FL or TX it will be a bonus.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 02:41 PM (lQBYU)

97 88 This is low-hanging fruit. And might actually get a conviction.

But we'll see.
Posted by: Axeman
----------

Snort!
Threadwinner.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 12, 2025 02:41 PM (uxVjF)

98 Don't these people ever eat at a Denny's?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr

Moons Over My Hammy. Yummmmmmm

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 02:41 PM (MGB5H)

99 I'm torn here because I kinda think anyone giving money to BLM deserves to be swindled.

Same.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2025 02:41 PM (2ocoG)

100 "Between June 2020 and October 2025, she allegedly deposited more than $2.35 million in returned bail checks directly into her own accounts."

So for four years, this was all done on Joey Shitbrains' watch, and nobody did anything about it? Odd, I tells ya!

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 02:41 PM (iFTx/)

101 This is low-hanging fruit. And might actually get a conviction.

But we'll see.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 02:39 PM (krQz2)



I feel sorry for the tree that this low-hanging fruit is hanging from.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 12, 2025 02:41 PM (F4p3X)

102 Your mama's so fat she outweighs the needs of the many.

Posted by: Delurker at December 12, 2025 02:42 PM (xNHSX)

103 When i worked for government, I was limited to a flat hotel and meal rate. Anything beyond that was out of my pocket.
I truly despise these people.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 02:36 PM (2WIwB)


well, congratulations, it is still coming out of your pocket.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 02:42 PM (rbvCR)

104 Fat Lives Matter.

Until you choke on a ham sandwich or die of arterial sclerosis.

Posted by: Vengeance at December 12, 2025 02:42 PM (PM/iv)

105 Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 02:40 PM (iFTx/)

Lobopodians! More obscure critter references from Elric!

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 02:42 PM (77rzZ)

106 [ahem]

she thicc like radiation shielding!

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 02:42 PM (rbvCR)

107 57 Yo momma so fat jokes coming
------

When that BLM grifter sits around the house, she sits *around* the house!
Posted by: Crusader at Decem

When you have sex with her you have to slap her thigh and ride the wave in.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 02:34 PM (MGB5H)

Afterward you roll over three times and you're still on top of her.

Posted by: Belt Size: Equator at December 12, 2025 02:43 PM (TbWk/)

108 Seriously though, even allowing that this is the worst-case way for BLM donations to go, what did donors think was going to happen?

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2025 02:43 PM (2ocoG)

109 > Other expenses included $6,300 for a meal at Italian restaurant Ama in the capitol's Navy Yard neighborhood.

How many pounds of spaghetti can that porker pack away?

Posted by: bonhomme at December 12, 2025 02:43 PM (Yp6az)

110 This is low-hanging fruit.

This is about us, isn't it?
-- Nancy Pelosi's nipples

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 02:43 PM (77rzZ)

111 >>>Odds that this fat farm animal walks? High.
Posted by: Elric The Blade
---------

That judge that let the Somalians go, was that in Oklahoma?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 02:43 PM (lQBYU)

112 102 Your mama's so fat she outweighs the needs of the many.
Posted by: Delurker at December 12, 2025 02:42 PM (xNHSX)

Haha

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 12, 2025 02:43 PM (I7V7v)

113 102 Your mama's so fat she outweighs the needs of the many.
Posted by: Delurker at December 12, 2025 02:42 PM (xNHSX)

*adjusts monocle*
*smooths lapels*
*opera clap*

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2025 02:44 PM (Vq1pX)

114 109 > Other expenses included $6,300 for a meal at Italian restaurant Ama in the capitol's Navy Yard neighborhood.

How many pounds of spaghetti can that porker pack away?
Posted by: bonhomme at December 12, 2025 02:43 PM (Yp6az)

This makes me suspect she thinks she's a wine connoisseur.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 12, 2025 02:44 PM (I7V7v)

115 Your mama's so fat, she's got triabetes.

Your mama's so fat, during a full moon she turns into a wear-house.

Your mama's so fat. she goes out dancing in heels and comes home in flip-flops.

Posted by: Delurker at December 12, 2025 02:44 PM (xNHSX)

116 The Glock is a nice touch.

I bet you could stand 10 yards away and (a) she couldn't hit you, (b) she probably couldn't hold her arm up for more than one shot without being winded, and (c) she sure as hell can't run after you.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 12, 2025 02:44 PM (uxVjF)

117
Dan Crenshaw

I mentioned it yesterday: Youtuber Shawn Ryan is in feud the one-eyed TX Representative.

It all started when Shawn Ryan criticized Crenshaw for extravagant spending, namely hiring some ridiculously high-priced DJ.

Crenshaw made the Big Mistake of hiring a lawyer to send a STFU letter to Ryan. Now a small feud is a national story.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 12, 2025 02:45 PM (0FkWM)

118 Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 02:40 PM (iFTx/)

Lobopodians! More obscure critter references from Elric!
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 02:42 PM (77rzZ)
_______

The Blade, he has time on his hands ....

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 02:45 PM (iFTx/)

119 Yo mama so fat she should probably monitor her triglycerides seriously i worry about yo mama sometimes

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2025 02:45 PM (Vq1pX)

120 Federal Court in OK. That ain't left.
Posted by: BruceWayne

Maybe not, but Oklahoma City is the Minneapolis of Democatia.
------

You're thinking of Tulsa, not Oklahoma City. If that lardass lived in Tulsa she'd not only be a "reverend" and a BLM grifter but she'd also be mayor and head of her HOA.

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 02:45 PM (TN0g+)

121 Blood type is gravy

Never gets old

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 02:46 PM (/+FOE)

122 Fat Boy Pritzker signed MAID into law in Illinois.

Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2025 02:46 PM (UnA8+)

123 off topic, quote of the day:

Mamdani said, "We will prove that there is no problem too large for government to solve, and no concern too small for it to care about."

i think one problem he wants to solve is ending the homeless crisis by making homelessness legal. tents for all

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 12, 2025 02:46 PM (CWTWj)

124 Dan Crenshaw

I mentioned it yesterday: Youtuber Shawn Ryan is in feud the one-eyed TX Representative.

It all started when Shawn Ryan criticized Crenshaw for extravagant spending, namely hiring some ridiculously high-priced DJ.

Crenshaw made the Big Mistake of hiring a lawyer to send a STFU letter to Ryan. Now a small feud is a national story.
------

Thanks, I'll keep an eye on it.

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 02:46 PM (TN0g+)

125 Speculation is because if she does, then her new husband would have to fill out congressional financial disclosure forms. Engaged, not so. So he can inside trade, accept payments from assholes for lobbying, etc. all without much if any disclosure.
Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 02:36 PM (WDjG6)
*******
Reminds me of women that won't marry their baby-daddy so they can collect welfare even though they're living together as a couple. Vaccines.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 12, 2025 02:47 PM (NpAcC)

126 Yo momma so fat her belly button got an echo.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 02:47 PM (MGB5H)

127 Crenshaw made the Big Mistake of hiring a lawyer to send a STFU letter to Ryan. Now a small feud is a national story.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 12, 2025 02:45 PM (0FkWM)
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Dan Crenshaw is a faggot.

Thanks for your service in the SEALs, now kindly fuck off and STFU.

Posted by: Howard Johnson at December 12, 2025 02:47 PM (3BwY8)

128
You know why I think Crenshaw is fucking dumb?

Not because he stupidly said, on camera, on microphone, he'd "fucking kill" Tucker Carlson. That's not so bad because it leaves room for Reasonable Doubt.

But this Stupid Texas Shithead, right after, says, get this, "I'm not joking."

Noooooo. You fucking idiot. You literally said The Thing You're Never Supposed To Say.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 12, 2025 02:47 PM (0FkWM)

129 Mamdani said, "We will prove that there is no problem too large for government to solve, and no concern too small for it to care about."

i think one problem he wants to solve is ending the homeless crisis by making homelessness legal. tents for all
Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 12, 2025 02:46 PM (CWTWj)

The difference between tragedy and comedy is not so much time as it is proximity.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2025 02:47 PM (Vq1pX)

130 I'll note that no gun control group will ever condemn blacks for glorifying guns and gun violence ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 02:47 PM (HXT0k)

131 Other expenses included $6,300 for a meal at Italian restaurant Ama in the capitol's Navy Yard neighborhood.

How many pounds of spaghetti can that porker pack away?
Posted by: bonhomme

Hideously entitled folks di shit like this all the time. They'll order two or three of everything and may or may not take even one bite. They don't care about being wasteful - why should they? It's not their money.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2025 02:47 PM (cYBz/)

132 Someone told her the moon was made of cheese so bitch became an astronaut.

I just made that one up

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 02:48 PM (/+FOE)

133 The Glock is a nice touch.

I bet you could stand 10 yards away and (a) she couldn't hit you, (b) she probably couldn't hold her arm up for more than one shot without being winded, and (c) she sure as hell can't run after you.
-----

ABC thinks she'd be perfect as an enforcer in a show called "The Equalizer".

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 02:48 PM (TN0g+)

134 I bet you could milk that fat thing like a Holstein.

Moo.

Posted by: Vengeance at December 12, 2025 02:48 PM (PM/iv)

135 Dan Crenshaw is a faggot.

Thanks for your service in the SEALs, now kindly fuck off and STFU.
Posted by: Howard Johnson

To be honest, his military record is kinda patchy.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 02:49 PM (77rzZ)

136 Based on her mass, she'll receive multiple concurrent sentences.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 02:49 PM (1Nv0l)

137 Crenshaw made the Big Mistake of hiring a lawyer to send a STFU letter to Ryan. Now a small feud is a national story.

Crenshaw is really, really dumb. This was already known, but it's always good for it to become more known.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2025 02:50 PM (2ocoG)

138 Bad Bunny is a rapper, right? So isn't calling him a "music superstar" a category error?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 02:50 PM (npFr7)

139 To be honest, his military record is kinda patchy.
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 02:49 PM (77rzZ)
----
ISWYDT

Posted by: Howard Johnson at December 12, 2025 02:50 PM (3BwY8)

140 Crenshaw made the Big Mistake of hiring a lawyer to send a STFU letter to Ryan. Now a small feud is a national story.
Posted by: Soothsayer

I am not privy to any of the facts surrounding this but, if my sense of human nature is accurate, I'd guess that Crenshaw is monumentally jealous of Ryan and his wild successful podcast.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2025 02:50 PM (cYBz/)

141 Ryan was a SEAL too, wasn't he?

Fucking everyone's a SEAL. Hold your breath in a pool for a bit and go on a shitty camping trip for a few days and they're slapping a Roman numeral on your arm FFS.

Half of BUDS is probably just learning how to set the lighting right so your green screen looks good.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2025 02:50 PM (Vq1pX)

142 You should totally trust someone because they’re the same race as you, or they appeal to your white AWFL guilt. Totally.

Posted by: Vengeance at December 12, 2025 02:50 PM (PM/iv)

143
I'm torn here because I kinda think anyone giving money to BLM deserves to be swindled.
Posted by: Bobby Hugbox

=============

Same. If I had all the money in the world, I'd take out full-page ads or billboard ads in the corporate headquarters cities of those companies that donated millions. Maybe a split screen of their donation and the fraud it actually purchased.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 02:50 PM (1N/bM)

144 Other expenses included $6,300 for a meal at Italian restaurant Ama in the capitol's Navy Yard neighborhood.

How is this possible?
Wait, looking at her picture.......
She hasn't pushed herself away from the table too many times.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 12, 2025 02:50 PM (N39Ws)

145 Other expenses included $6,300 for a meal at Italian restaurant Ama in the capitol's Navy Yard neighborhood.

How many pounds of spaghetti can that porker pack away?
Posted by: bonhomme

Hideously entitled folks di shit like this all the time. They'll order two or three of everything and may or may not take even one bite. They don't care about being wasteful - why should they? It's not their money.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2025 02:47 PM (cYBz/)
_____

Probably a lot of people at that dinner. It's part of the reason these cocksuckers are mostly untouchable. There's dozens if not 100s of remoras floating in their orbit that will do anything to keep it that way.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 02:50 PM (iFTx/)

146 117
Dan Crenshaw

I mentioned it yesterday: Youtuber Shawn Ryan is in feud the one-eyed TX Representative.

It all started when Shawn Ryan criticized Crenshaw for extravagant spending, namely hiring some ridiculously high-priced DJ.

Crenshaw made the Big Mistake of hiring a lawyer to send a STFU letter to Ryan. Now a small feud is a national story.
Posted by: Soothsayer
=-----------

He's got an election coming up. Very good.
Hope he's got a decent opponent.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 02:51 PM (lQBYU)

147 Crenshaw made the Big Mistake of hiring a lawyer to send a STFU letter to Ryan. Now a small feud is a national story.
---
Eyepatch McCain is under a lot of stress lately since he has had his district lines re-drawn.
Might have been made easier for an actual conservative to win the primary.

IDK, but I kinda think he may be soon to retire ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 02:51 PM (HXT0k)

148 117
Dan Crenshaw

I mentioned it yesterday: Youtuber Shawn Ryan is in feud the one-eyed TX Representative.

It all started when Shawn Ryan criticized Crenshaw for extravagant spending, namely hiring some ridiculously high-priced DJ.

Crenshaw made the Big Mistake of hiring a lawyer to send a STFU letter to Ryan. Now a small feud is a national story.
Posted by: Soothsayer
========
Crenshaw must be burning down mentally. He recently got banned from foreign junkets by GOP leadership due to drunken behavior on one of them. Now he picks a fight with a joe with 5.3 million followers and the increase in wealth for Crenshaw is public record that Sean is citing.

Mebbe too much grifting ends up driving some people nuts when they realize that everyone is laughing and pointing at them. The guilty flee when no man pursueth.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 02:51 PM (WDjG6)

149 I'll note that no gun control group will ever condemn blacks for glorifying guns and gun violence ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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Nope. Nor will they acknowledge that without black gun violence, the US is pretty indistinguishable from Europe in terms of gun crime stats.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 02:51 PM (1Nv0l)

150 Money laundering? Now we know where all her soap went.

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 02:51 PM (/+FOE)

151 Crenshaw is really, really dumb. This was already known, but it's always good for it to become more known.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2025 02:50 PM (2ocoG)

Someone the other day said he was a Seal. You'd think a certain amount of common sense would be required.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 02:51 PM (zZu0s)

152 re 122: looked it up, basically a right to die law. not sure if it's the same as assisted suicide. assisted suicide would give you the right to show up at pritzker's place covered in bbq sauce

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 12, 2025 02:51 PM (CWTWj)

153 You're thinking of Tulsa, not Oklahoma City. If that lardass lived in Tulsa she'd not only be a "reverend" and a BLM grifter but she'd also be mayor and head of her HOA.
Posted by: Crusader


Tulsa certainly has its shortcomings, but OKC is worse. State capitol, big(ger) city, lefty academic surroundings. The one Dem or at least RINO congresscritter from Oklahoma is always the OKC area rep.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Okie by birth and choice at December 12, 2025 02:51 PM (lbDMw)

154 Tashika is too fat to be Somali
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at December 12, 2025 02:26 PM (wBaIH)

There's eight of them hiding inside.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 02:51 PM (npFr7)

155 Apparently no one told Crenshaw about the Streisand effect. Nice going eye patch McCain

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2025 02:52 PM (D+mpw)

156 If I had all the money in the world, I'd take out full-page ads or billboard ads in the corporate headquarters cities of those companies that donated millions. Maybe a split screen of their donation and the fraud it actually purchased.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 02:50 PM (1N/bM)


The split screens would be super funny since several of the Large Mansions bought with BLM donations burned down in the LA fires earlier this year.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2025 02:52 PM (2ocoG)

157 You would think these lunatics would be the last people you'd want to rip off!

Nah. They're pussycats if they don't get paid to get angry.

Posted by: Tashella at December 12, 2025 02:52 PM (Q7yzj)

158 141 Ryan was a SEAL too, wasn't he?

Fucking everyone's a SEAL. Hold your breath in a pool for a bit and go on a shitty camping trip for a few days and they're slapping a Roman numeral on your arm FFS.

Half of BUDS is probably just learning how to set the lighting right so your green screen looks good.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2025 02:50 PM (Vq1pX)
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How do you know if there's a Navy SEAL at your party?

Don't worry, he'll tell you.

Posted by: Howard Johnson at December 12, 2025 02:52 PM (3BwY8)

159 No, no guys. I was assured that whites commit 80% of violent crime.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 02:52 PM (zZu0s)

160 Whoo hoo the weekend is here
Thought might have to work tomorrow

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 02:52 PM (Ia/+0)

161 i woulda thought crenshaw had an eye on a senate seat

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 12, 2025 02:53 PM (CWTWj)

162 Puerto Rico is our very own Somalia. Cut it loose.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 02:53 PM (viF8m)

163 50 thou? You go girl!

Posted by: Vasco de Gamasutra at December 12, 2025 02:53 PM (qXqZm)

164
The above mentioned STFU letter, of course, prompted Shawn Ryan to share DM's.

Crenshaw told [implied] Ryan his "buddies from 6" will take care of him.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 12, 2025 02:53 PM (0FkWM)

165 Alexandria Ozempic-Cortez.

Posted by: Soon at December 12, 2025 02:53 PM (qUkBO)

166 No, no guys. I was assured that whites commit 80% of violent crime.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Jazzy Crockpot said so.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 02:53 PM (MGB5H)

167 151
Someone the other day said he was a Seal. You'd think a certain amount of common sense would be required.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 02:51 PM (zZu0s)

I'm a tight seal!!

Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at December 12, 2025 02:54 PM (N39Ws)

168 Over $50,000 in food and grocery deliveries

Talk about ample evidence!

Posted by: t-bird at December 12, 2025 02:54 PM (oAqqA)

169 Alexandria Ozempic-Cortez.
Posted by: Soon at December 12, 2025 02:53 PM (qUkBO)

Not close to skeletal enough.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 02:54 PM (zZu0s)

170 Tashella has the gun pointed at her foot and her booger-hook on the trigger. Idiot.

Posted by: nraendowment at December 12, 2025 02:54 PM (ig2DD)

171 >>Fucking everyone's a SEAL.


I know...right?

Posted by: Vegans and Crossfitters at December 12, 2025 02:54 PM (IaZ7c)

172 I once blew a seal.

Posted by: Kamala at December 12, 2025 02:55 PM (/+FOE)

173 The above mentioned STFU letter, of course, prompted Shawn Ryan to share DM's.

Crenshaw told [implied] Ryan his "buddies from 6" will take care of him.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 12, 2025 02:53 PM (0FkWM)
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Crenshaw's willingness to make overt or thinly-veiled threats on record should stand as proof that he's a complete retard.

Posted by: ballistic at December 12, 2025 02:55 PM (3BwY8)

174 Say... wasn't there some recent stories about unexpected earthquakes in Oklahoma not too long ago?

They blamed them on fracking, but I suspect it was just a coverup of this person tripping and falling down.

Posted by: SimoHayek at December 12, 2025 02:55 PM (0Aoc4)

175 I am not privy to any of the facts surrounding this but, if my sense of human nature is accurate, I'd guess that Crenshaw is monumentally jealous of Ryan and his wild successful podcast.
Posted by: Tonypete
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Link goes to X (Ryan's account)
https://tinyurl.com/y2bfvkae

Includes Crenshaw's cringe text to Ryan about his friendz at 6 notifying him that Ryan mentioned (not even by name) that Crenshaw was hiring a $150k DJ for his two 40th Birthday swank parties.

That is what started the ball rolling.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 02:55 PM (WDjG6)

176 The above mentioned STFU letter, of course, prompted Shawn Ryan to share DM's.

Crenshaw told [implied] Ryan his "buddies from 6" will take care of him.
Posted by: Soothsayer at December 12, 2025 02:53 PM (0FkWM)
___

Motel 6? Six Flags? The fags at his gay 69 orgies?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 02:55 PM (iFTx/)

177 maybe the gun fatso is holding is really dark chocolate

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 12, 2025 02:56 PM (CWTWj)

178 Neigh OC

I'm hot today.

First Derka Carlson, and now Neigh OC. I love Friday.

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 02:56 PM (/+FOE)

179
Do you which SEAL I hate the most?

Don Shipley. I hate that old queer weirdo, who spends his entire life pestering old sad sacks for "stolen valor" bullshit. Yes, I said bullshit.

Most of the guys Shitley harasses & harangues did actually serve...honorably and whatnot. But Shitley doesn't like it if they embellish a little bit at the bar or wherever. Fuck You, Donk Shitley.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 12, 2025 02:56 PM (0FkWM)

180 Oh... who was the Red Cell guy? Starts with an M, I think. I remember seeing his books in the 90s before the explosion of SEALS.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 02:56 PM (zZu0s)

181 maybe the gun fatso is holding is really dark chocolate

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 12, 2025 02:56 PM (CWTWj)

Either way, she should....

nevermind

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 02:57 PM (/+FOE)

182 I'm torn here because I kinda think anyone giving money to BLM deserves to be swindled.
Posted by: Bobby Hugbox at December 12, 2025 02:35 PM (C24tU)

I expect a lot of the stolen money was taxpayer dollars to begin with. USAID?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 02:57 PM (npFr7)

183 n executive director with Black Lives Matter allegedly used her position to steal donor money and enrich herself. She has now been charged with wire fraud and money laundering.

I would prefer to be sent to a white prison, if you would be so kind...

Posted by: Tashella Magilla at December 12, 2025 02:57 PM (ittVa)

184 What is it with adults having massive birthday parties? I don't get it. And Halloween parties. Weird.

Posted by: NCKate at December 12, 2025 02:57 PM (uQzkA)

185
I'm a tight seal!!
Posted by: Pete Buttigieg

Long ago Petey, long ago.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 12, 2025 02:57 PM (ZaZ9u)

186 Includes Crenshaw's cringe text to Ryan about his friendz at 6 notifying him that Ryan mentioned (not even by name) that Crenshaw was hiring a $150k DJ for his two 40th Birthday swank parties.

Was he using his own money or taxpayer money? If it was his own money he was spending, what the f**k business is it of anyone else?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 02:57 PM (77rzZ)

187 Motel 6?

'We'll leave the light on for you.'
-Tom Bodet

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 02:58 PM (zZu0s)

188 Lol.

Referring to devgru as "six" to threaten a guy who was actually in devgru.

What a fucking poltroon.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2025 02:58 PM (Vq1pX)

189 She thicc like Westwall fortresses!

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 02:58 PM (rbvCR)

190 161 i woulda thought crenshaw had an eye on a senate seat
Posted by: gnats local 678

I think that you may have hit upon why he is so miserable (see the drunken junket ban by House leaders plus the own goal with Sean Ryan fight).

Asshole probably was told like MTG that they had no chance to win statewide. That means all that is left for Crenshaw as he has his generational wealth is a long time sniffing backsides of House leadership.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 02:58 PM (WDjG6)

191 amusing to see two Seals engaging in mean girls behavior

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 02:58 PM (g47mK)

192 2 birthday parties is a bit cringe.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 02:58 PM (zZu0s)

193 "you said", " no I didn't , you bitch!"

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 02:59 PM (g47mK)

194 This is why Politicians don't care about their salary. They have paid office staff, free office space(tax payer paid). They can live like multimillionaires by writing off everything to campaign funds. That is where the real money is They raise millions which they can use for hotels, meals, airplane tickets, even things like haircuts. Why not go first class when you're not paying for it. They can even hire their relatives and lovers for 6 figure salaries.
That is why staying in office is everything.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 12, 2025 02:59 PM (t/2Uw)

195 Fat Boy Pritzker signed MAID into law in Illinois.
Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2025 02:46 PM (UnA8+)


Should MAID be made equivalent to murder on a nationwide scale we will all watch aghast when the discovery comes out.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 02:59 PM (rbvCR)

196 152 re 122: looked it up, basically a right to die law. not sure if it's the same as assisted suicide. assisted suicide would give you the right to show up at pritzker's place covered in bbq sauce
Posted by: gnats local

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I mean, everyone has a right to die. Not just a right, but an obligation.

If the law is involved it must mean medically assisted. So sounds like MAID. (Medical Assistance in Dying)

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 12, 2025 03:00 PM (uxVjF)

197 re 184: nothing wrong with expensive parties etc so long as it's your actual money

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 12, 2025 03:00 PM (CWTWj)

198 I am not privy to any of the facts surrounding this but, if my sense of human nature is accurate, I'd guess that Crenshaw is monumentally jealous of Ryan and his wild successful podcast.
Posted by: Tonypete
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Link goes to X (Ryan's account)
https://tinyurl.com/y2bfvkae

Includes Crenshaw's cringe text to Ryan about his friendz at 6 notifying him that Ryan mentioned (not even by name) that Crenshaw was hiring a $150k DJ for his two 40th Birthday swank parties.

That is what started the ball rolling.
Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 02:55 PM (WDjG6)
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The cringiest thing about this is that hyper-cringe poster "promo" from Crenshaw announcing the party. Holy shit. Flaming hands, exploding background, ridiculous pose and expression. Holy shit.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 03:00 PM (iFTx/)

199 I would like an exposure of political theft per week, for the next three years. It is about time that the everyday folks see just what they are supporting.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2025 03:00 PM (0U5gm)

200
Well, Bulg, I'll explain it you.

You see, it's like this: Crenshaw did spend his *own* money. But the problem, ol' chap, is HOW Crenshaw has amassed his quick fortune -- which is enough to blow $$ like he Didn't Earn It.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 12, 2025 03:00 PM (0FkWM)

201 LOL, so there's several declared to run against Crenshaw next March.

Looks like a Steve Toth, current TX House Rep out of Montgomery Co. is the strongest to run against him, esp. since the new map includes less of Harris/Houston.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 03:01 PM (HXT0k)

202 Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 12, 2025 02:59 PM (t/2Uw)

Hey, Sharon. How are you?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 03:01 PM (77rzZ)

203 Was he using his own money or taxpayer money? If it was his own money he was spending, what the f**k business is it of anyone else?
Posted by: Bulg
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Posters and fliers were distributed. Fair game just like AOC. Our elected scum think they are nobility and above all laws and criticism.

Sean explains, ". . . he had questioned how Crenshaw was able to throw an "extremely expensive party" and asked how someone "making $174,000 a year can afford that kind of a lifestyle."

And all of what Sean says is public record as to Crenshaw's amazing trading success in stocks making him a multimillionaire (IIRC in the tens of millions of bucks) all while being a full time congress critter.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 03:02 PM (WDjG6)

204 89 When you get to prison, have the salad, fatty.
Posted by: Vengeance at December 12, 2025 02:40 PM (PM/iv)

Don't sleep on the top bunk

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 12, 2025 03:02 PM (N39Ws)

205 The cringiest thing about this is that hyper-cringe poster "promo" from Crenshaw announcing the party. Holy shit. Flaming hands, exploding background, ridiculous pose and expression. Holy shit.
Posted by: Elric The Blade
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A one eyed man only sees one side of things.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 03:02 PM (WDjG6)

206 Say... wasn't there some recent stories about unexpected earthquakes in Oklahoma not too long ago?

They blamed them on fracking, but I suspect it was just a coverup of this person tripping and falling down.
Posted by: SimoHayek


Heh.

There are Okla quakes that have nothing to do with fracking, but, yeah, there were some that were, quite educational, and they quit doing that which caused quakes. So they said.

One quake years ago had me practically still asleep, bolting toward the front door to see why there was a rumbling semi-truck out front. More like a locomotive. That was a good 'n.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Madrid moved West at December 12, 2025 03:03 PM (lbDMw)

207 amusing to see two Seals engaging in mean girls behavior
Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 02:58 PM (g47mK)

Former "operators" on social media are the wettest bunch of whiny drama queens out there. Like a bunch of perimenopausal women sniping and bitching all day every day but they all have to share the same hair salon because it's the only one in town.

I swear half of them were probably never even in the military and the other half were remfs.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2025 03:03 PM (Vq1pX)

208 This bitch is so fat her alarm clock is a defibrillator.

I'm just trying stuff now.

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 03:04 PM (/+FOE)

209
True, whig.

Also...

"In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king."
-- Shih Tzu

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 12, 2025 03:04 PM (6so/y)

210 One quake years ago had me practically still asleep, bolting toward the front door to see why there was a rumbling semi-truck out front. More like a locomotive. That was a good 'n.
Posted by: mindful webworker - Madrid

I'll go to the gym or wherever and everyone is like did you feel that quake last night or this morning. And everytime I'm like nope.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 03:04 PM (MGB5H)

211 Tashella Dickerson is a product of a poor environment. There's nothing wrong with her, I can prove it.

Posted by: Randolph Duke at December 12, 2025 03:05 PM (R/m4+)

212 I would like an exposure of political theft per week, for the next three years.

The amount could be...all of it. Every freaking dime we send, plus what they print.

Posted by: t-bird at December 12, 2025 03:05 PM (ittVa)

213 Say... wasn't there some recent stories about unexpected earthquakes in Oklahoma not too long ago?

They blamed them on fracking, but I suspect it was just a coverup of this person tripping and falling down.
Posted by: SimoHayek


Earthquakes generally begin about 7 miles beneath the surface, while fracs are done just hundreds of feet down.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2025 03:06 PM (0U5gm)

214 194 This is why Politicians don't care about their salary. They have paid office staff, free office space(tax payer paid). They can live like multimillionaires by writing off everything to campaign funds. That is where the real money is They raise millions which they can use for hotels, meals, airplane tickets, even things like haircuts. Why not go first class when you're not paying for it. They can even hire their relatives and lovers for 6 figure salaries.
That is why staying in office is everything.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)

Yep. That sort of thing way back when was kept more subdued but Congress critters today are all like YOLO. They figure, like criminals, that doggone it, they worked hard to get their wealth by grifting (crime in the case of criminals).

Judge Joe Brown on his TV show had a memorable episode where the theft victim was allowed to get restitution from the thief. The thief was obviously pissed when his shit was being taken. I watched some junk tv in grad school--sue me.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 03:06 PM (WDjG6)

215 Actually BUDS doesn't include any media training. And loud/high-profile remains a recent downgrade from tradition and history of the opposite. Quiet professionals was a term that was based on something.

Can't seem to find it, but after the "guy who shot Bin Laden" disgraced himself with his tawdry publicity efforts, the commander and command master chief of Nav Special Warfare released an open letter to the force. It was a very well crafted 10-megaton smackdown on how publicity was the opposite of wise practices and tradition.

Good friend from jr. high days did 25+ years in the teams, talk with him all the time, you'll never know his background unless you ask or someone tells you. He still hasn't shared almost anything specific about what he did. Young current SEALs at the range always have to be asked if they're on the teams, in my experience, and they're sheepish when answering - but there are clues and I've always been right when I asked.

Carry on.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2025 03:06 PM (U/Byj)

216
In my first post, I was gonna tag Crenshaw as the Myopic Mariner, but I figured that was too flowery for this crowd.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 12, 2025 03:06 PM (z39dS)

217 "In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king."
-- Shih Tzu
Posted by: Soothsayer
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A one eyed man who is cross eyed sees things at a slant.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 03:06 PM (WDjG6)

218 Fat bottomed girls make the grifting world go round.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 12, 2025 03:07 PM (n5tGW)

219 In my first post, I was gonna tag Crenshaw as the Myopic Mariner, but I figured that was too flowery for this crowd.

The media/Dems were trying to claim the double-tapped drug runners were "shipwrecked mariners" so there are definitely some jokes to be made along those lines.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2025 03:07 PM (2ocoG)

220 Earthquakes generally begin about 7 miles beneath the surface, while fracs are done just hundreds of feet down.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

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So you're saying it was global warming?

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 12, 2025 03:08 PM (uxVjF)

221 Young current SEALs at the range always have to be asked if they're on the teams, in my experience, and they're sheepish when answering - but there are clues and I've always been right when I asked.

Carry on.

Posted by: rhomboid
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You rarely if ever see mentions or media sightings of Delta Force veterans nor AF pararescue.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 03:08 PM (WDjG6)

222 Politicians don't like it when you spend the money before they get it. It's like a swindlers hierarchy.

You need to be elected before you can legally swindle.

Posted by: pawn at December 12, 2025 03:08 PM (EMg+d)

223 Tulsa certainly has its shortcomings, but OKC is worse. State capitol, big(ger) city, lefty academic surroundings. The one Dem or at least RINO congresscritter from Oklahoma is always the OKC area rep.
Posted by: mindful webworker - Okie by birth and choice at December 12, 2025 02:51 PM (lbDMw)

Every university in the nation is lefty. It doesn't mean the population is. OKC has a conservative mayor and definitely helped getting a conservative governor and legislature elected. The only reason Lankford won a senate seat is that he ran as a hardcore conservative. Doubt he'll be re-elected.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 12, 2025 03:08 PM (g8Ew8)

224 How dare you observe my work. I'm spend the money the way i see fit.

Posted by: thug dolphin at December 12, 2025 03:08 PM (EyfuW)

225
Tashella Sheri Amore Dickerson.

Looks like she's carrying 60 lbs of blubber per name.

Lucky she didn't stick a "Ms" in front of her name. She'd have an instant heart attack.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2025 03:08 PM (iJfKG)

226 I think that you may have hit upon why he is so miserable (see the drunken junket ban by House leaders plus the own goal with Sean Ryan fight).

Asshole probably was told like MTG that they had no chance to win statewide. That means all that is left for Crenshaw as he has his generational wealth is a long time sniffing backsides of House leadership.
Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 02:58 PM (WDjG6)


Then Crenshaw really is a cretin, because if he wants the power and position as much as he wanted that insignia he needs to put in the time, effort and planning.
Temper tantrums don't win. They earn you time outs.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 03:09 PM (rbvCR)

227
Where did Fake News come up with "double tap?"

I know what the phrase means.

But why is Fake News using it? Is it a term used at the Pentagon?

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 12, 2025 03:09 PM (z39dS)

228 You rarely if ever see mentions or media sightings of Delta Force veterans nor AF pararescue.

Or the coolest sounding Special Forces title, Combat Controllers.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2025 03:09 PM (2ocoG)

229 I am shocked by this development.

*looks around for my winnings*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:10 PM (GBKbO)

230 Carry on.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2025 03:06 PM (U/Byj)

It's because i know that is the truth that the carnival barkers and valor theives (or worse, the valor tarnishers) amongst them piss me off so much.

And I'm just a pussy-ass civilian. I can't imagine what those quiet professionals must think about it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2025 03:10 PM (Vq1pX)

231 Earthquakes generally begin about 7 miles beneath the surface, while fracs are done just hundreds of feet down.
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While that may be true, strangely enough the earthquakes in Oklahoma stopped shortly after cracking down on certain fracking practices. The quakes were a thing...and then one day they weren't, just like an on and off switch.

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 03:11 PM (TN0g+)

232 The Odyssey prologue got leaked online.

Looks pretty neat.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:11 PM (GBKbO)

233 When I was in boot camp, they made us watch a video about SEAL training, in case any of us recruits were interested in it.

They have something called "Hell Week" where you have to stay awake for the whole week. The upside is that they feed you five times a day.

Sorry, not interested.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 03:11 PM (77rzZ)

234 Every university in the nation is lefty. It doesn't mean the population is.

People forget, the early stories of teachers going full trans with kids were from rural Texas. Education majors all come from leftist universities, and are usually among the farthest left to come from them.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2025 03:11 PM (2ocoG)

235 Or the coolest sounding Special Forces title, Combat Controllers.
Posted by: Ian S.
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Those guys too. Navy has better PR for its special forces but I think Army wants its guys in the shadows and has the Green Berets as a face for their spec ops. Pararescue and Combat Controllers are in a service run by fighter jocks.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 03:12 PM (WDjG6)

236 delta has started to get more public, which is unfortunate, but you have to wonder if dam neck has started giving training for media when they train new seals

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 03:12 PM (Nmj5t)

237 You rarely if ever see mentions or media sightings of Delta Force veterans nor AF pararescue.
Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 03:08 PM (WDjG6)

"Yeah, i was just a medic. Nothing fancy."

- typical PJ

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2025 03:12 PM (Vq1pX)

238 Doll Eyes Alex would have been better served by blowing that 50k on bunny girls and blow.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 12, 2025 03:12 PM (MeJZi)

239 Earthquakes generally begin about 7 miles beneath the surface, while fracs are done just hundreds of feet down.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2025 03:06 PM (0U5gm)


That's OK, I am also afraid of the electrical fluid leaking out of the sockets in the wall, and killing me by shocks.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 03:12 PM (rbvCR)

240 Those guys too. Navy has better PR for its special forces but I think Army wants its guys in the shadows and has the Green Berets as a face for their spec ops. Pararescue and Combat Controllers are in a service run by fighter jocks.
Posted by: w

it is stupid , having any of your specials doing anything publicly, exposes way too much information

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 03:13 PM (Nmj5t)

241 Looks pretty neat.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:11 PM (GBKbO)

That's the Nolan one, right?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 03:13 PM (zZu0s)

242 They have something called "Hell Week" where you have to stay awake for the whole week. The upside is that they feed you five times a day.

Sorry, not interested.
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 03:11 PM (77rzZ)

Hell week? That just sounds like regular grad school with less booze.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2025 03:13 PM (Vq1pX)

243
Toldya.

Toldya all that Sydney Sweeney was nothing more than Chauncy Gardener.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 12, 2025 03:13 PM (z39dS)

244 241 Looks pretty neat.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:11 PM (GBKbO)

That's the Nolan one, right?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 03:13 PM (zZu0s)

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Affirmative.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 03:13 PM (GBKbO)

245 Then Crenshaw really is a cretin, because if he wants the power and position as much as he wanted that insignia he needs to put in the time, effort and planning.
Temper tantrums don't win. They earn you time outs.
Posted by: Kindltot
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Mid life crisis when you are stuck climbing the greasy pole of power in politics. Crenshaw always struck me, even way back at the start of his career, as a person on the make. His nasty responses to any critics, now recently highlighted have probably put paid on rising further either in House leadership or for higher office.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 03:14 PM (WDjG6)

246 When you're driving westbound on I 40 the OKC limits start about 35 miles from the end. Perpetual construction, crazy traffic especially around the Tinker AFB exits. I always try to travel through there on a Saturday or Sunday morning.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 12, 2025 03:14 PM (gm9Sb)

247 You rarely if ever see mentions or media sightings of Delta Force veterans nor AF pararescue.

Or the coolest sounding Special Forces title, Combat Controllers.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2025 03:09 PM (2ocoG)
____

Commando Ninjas

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 03:14 PM (iFTx/)

248 While that may be true, strangely enough the earthquakes in Oklahoma stopped shortly after cracking down on certain fracking practices. The quakes were a thing...and then one day they weren't, just like an on and off switch.
Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 03:11 PM (TN0g+)

The comment above is pure horseshit.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 12, 2025 03:14 PM (g8Ew8)

249 'Doll Eyes Alex would have been better served by blowing...'
-Anna Puma

I read up to here and thought this should be good.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 03:15 PM (zZu0s)

250 they have started recruiting right off the street, seals, which is why they have gone south

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 03:15 PM (Nmj5t)

251 truTh: in Advertising: congresscritter sb. congressMONSTER all of them.

Eminent Monsterdom, each jocking to become the 'it' of the moment as Jeffmass sweeps the world and forWAR'd and it's consequences break down your door in a 3am raid.

Last chance.
It's Now or Never.
Save the World or Save your Self.
https://tinyurl.com/TULSI-ArmyOfONE
https://tinyurl.com/HEGSETH-PickelRICK

Doing the Right thing now, country before party will propel her to be one of the best president's since Eisenhower.

People could look back at this era of forWAR'd and wonder -- how stoopid were you to believe and do that?

https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-WhoRtheTargets
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-ctHARRIS19takedown
Not One Battle after Another; One LIB after Another.

https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-futPrezGabbardStepsUp

Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at December 12, 2025 03:15 PM (l657C)

252 The people who gave money to OKC BLM don't want Tashella prosecuted.

Posted by: Oglebay at December 12, 2025 03:15 PM (2ap+5)

253 While that may be true, strangely enough the earthquakes in Oklahoma stopped shortly after cracking down on certain fracking practices. The quakes were a thing...and then one day they weren't, just like an on and off switch.
Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 03:11 PM (TN0g+)

The comment above is pure horseshit.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons

There were earthquakes in OK long before fracking existed.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 03:15 PM (MGB5H)

254 Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 12, 2025 03:14 PM (g8Ew
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Mine, or the post above mine?

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 03:16 PM (TN0g+)

255 Then Crenshaw really is a cretin, because if he wants the power and position as much as he wanted that insignia he needs to put in the time, effort and planning.
Temper tantrums don't win. They earn you time outs.
Posted by: Kin


shawn ryan has 5 something million yt subscribers, crenshaw got 200,000 or so votes for his seat, is that a smart fight to go with

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 03:16 PM (Nmj5t)

256 Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 03:14 PM (WDjG6)

I'd say he nailed his foot in place by his comments and inaction on the J6 guys for the past five years. All of these fuckers have dropped into the toilet in my eyes. And I already had no heroes or illusions.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 03:16 PM (zZu0s)

257 Worked with a former sgt maj from Army special forces overseas. Was funny how half the people coming into the office to talk with him had beards and generic uniforms/clothing. He was in something totally different but clearly was a vet to be consulted on things.

One time a colleague texted "Jones is mad!" - we all thought someone had been killed, as literally nothing would cause Jones to show any concern or emotion. Turned out to be something else thankfully.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2025 03:16 PM (U/Byj)

258
U.S. Attorney Robert J. Troester confirmed the indictment, which carries maximum penalties adding up to 450 years in prison and millions in fines.

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With good behavior, she can cut that sentence in half.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 12, 2025 03:17 PM (HLgI3)

259 Chill, Manfred.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 03:17 PM (zZu0s)

260 There were earthquakes in OK long before fracking existed.
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But not in the numerical cluster that seemed to have showed up around...2010...and ended roughly around...2016?

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 03:17 PM (TN0g+)

261 When you're driving westbound on I 40 the OKC limits start about 35 miles from the end. Perpetual construction, crazy traffic especially around the Tinker AFB exits. I always try to travel through there on a Saturday or Sunday morning.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 12, 2025 03:14 PM (gm9Sb)

Take I-240 instead. It's on the map.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 12, 2025 03:18 PM (g8Ew8)

262 $50K in groceries?

Well, it's all right up there on the screen.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 12, 2025 03:18 PM (wzUl9)

263 "Yeah, i was just a medic. Nothing fancy."

- typical PJ
Posted by: Warai-otoko
======
I knew of a few guys that went pararescue and you are correct. Only one combat controller though who was changing fields to civil engineering (moi) due to some physical issues. Same with a former AF mechanic that wanted a post closer to family home with no jet mechanic positions available in his field at my base.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 03:18 PM (WDjG6)

264 What about all the feather Indians in OK? What are their political leanings?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 03:19 PM (77rzZ)

265 The trouble with AOC and the Chunk O Chocolate with a Glock is you cannot shame them. They absolutely positively believe they do no wrong.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 12, 2025 03:19 PM (gm9Sb)

266 While that may be true, strangely enough the earthquakes in Oklahoma stopped shortly after cracking down on certain fracking practices. The quakes were a thing...and then one day they weren't, just like an on and off switch.
Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 03:11 PM (TN0g+)

I don't think those quakes were caused by fracking. More likely deep-well injection of wastewater at very high pressure, which may have lubricated stuck faults and allowed them to move. Actual fracking is done usually at lesser depths (depends upon depth of the target formation, of course), and it deliberately causes thousands of tiny "earthquakes" that can only be detected by sensitive seismometers, which can be used to track the progress of the frac job. Once the frac job is complete, there should be no further "quakes".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 03:19 PM (npFr7)

267 I expect Crenshaw has gobs of physical pain that will get worse as he ages, but it is a bad excuse to start chewing up people who either can't respond or fight back.

I don't know who said to be nice to people on your way up, because you will surely meet them on your way back down, though I have always honored that point of view.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 03:19 PM (rbvCR)

268 What about all the feather Indians in OK? What are their political leanings?

I think the PC term is "Casino-Americans".

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2025 03:19 PM (2ocoG)

269 My fav is that people say that Obama is only worth about 70 million.

Conservatively, he has somewhere around 1B.

Not bad.

Posted by: MJ at December 12, 2025 03:20 PM (XOmY9)

270 People don't like to admit they were taken by donation money
And BLM took in hundreds of millions

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 03:20 PM (Ia/+0)

271 After 9/11 SEALs started taking civilians directly, prior had always required current service status. Even recruited some (endurance athletes for example).

Don't think the erosion in standards on publicity related to that. More a generational thing, and perfectly parallel to decline in all institutions.

Where's the idiot commenter, incredibly misinformed and driven mad by some daddy complex, who always comes and barfs up perfectly inverted generational nonsense? Well here's a potentially great example of how backwards he's got it.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2025 03:20 PM (U/Byj)

272 The trouble with AOC and the Chunk O Chocolate with a Glock is you cannot shame them. They absolutely positively believe they do no wrong.
Posted by: bi


even if they do not believe in gravity, gravity believes in them, so

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 03:20 PM (Nmj5t)

273 More likely deep-well injection of wastewater at very high pressure, which may have lubricated stuck faults and allowed them to move.
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Well put! Once you posted it I remember seeing words to that effect in the papers years ago.

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 03:20 PM (TN0g+)

274 Mine, or the post above mine?
Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 03:16 PM (TN0g+)

You need to look at it again.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 12, 2025 03:21 PM (g8Ew8)

275
There were earthquakes in OK long before fracking existed.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025


***
According to my mother, there was one in Tulsa when I was very small. We were in our apartment -- I was less than a year old -- and Mom got out of bed for something, carrying me, and the quake hit and the ceiling collapsed right onto the bed. Would have killed me if I'd still been in the bed.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 12, 2025 03:22 PM (wzUl9)

276 While that may be true, strangely enough the earthquakes in Oklahoma stopped shortly after cracking down on certain fracking practices. The quakes were a thing...and then one day they weren't, just like an on and off switch.

Posted by: Crusader


Theoretically, but not completely proven, the cracks and proppant left in the zone could be providing a type of lubrication that would make earthquakes felt more easily.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 12, 2025 03:22 PM (0U5gm)

277 According to my mother, there was one in Tulsa when I was very small. We were in our apartment -- I was less than a year old -- and Mom got out of bed for something, carrying me, and the quake hit and the ceiling collapsed right onto the bed. Would have killed me if I'd still been in the bed.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Dayum! That's crazy.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 03:22 PM (MGB5H)

278 even if they do not believe in gravity, gravity believes in them, so

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 03:20 PM (Nmj5t)

Gravity doesn't believe in Tashella so much as it's been indoctrinated

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 03:22 PM (/+FOE)

279 According to my mother, there was one in Tulsa when I was very small. We were in our apartment -- I was less than a year old -- and Mom got out of bed for something, carrying me, and the quake hit and the ceiling collapsed right onto the bed. Would have killed me if I'd still been in the bed.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Wow. That's an amazing story.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 03:22 PM (77rzZ)

280 new thread:

Indiana Cucks Refuse to Redraw Congressional Map

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 12, 2025 03:23 PM (CWTWj)

281 After 9/11 SEALs started taking civilians directly, prior had always required current service status. Even recruited some (endurance athletes for example).

Don't think the erosion in standards on publicity related to that. More a generational thing, and perfectly parallel to decline in all institutions.

Where's the idiot commenter, incredibly misinformed and driven mad by some daddy complex, who always comes and barfs up perfectly inverted generational nonsense? Well here's a potentially great example of how backwards he's got it.

Posted by: r


why would that not be a factor, its a significant difference between Army and navy sf, even seals say its a thing

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 03:23 PM (Nmj5t)

282 BLM
Buying
Large
Mansions

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 03:23 PM (xcxpd)

283 People don't like to admit they were taken by donation money
And BLM took in hundreds of millions


BLM never stated what the money was for, so what exactly did the donors think it was going to?

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2025 03:23 PM (2ocoG)

284 What about all the feather Indians in OK? What are their political leanings?

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About the same as us blue-eyed devils.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 12, 2025 03:23 PM (g8Ew8)

285
Where's the idiot commenter, incredibly misinformed and driven mad...

Posted by: rhomboid


Yes?

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 12, 2025 03:24 PM (POnfk)

286 257 Worked with a former sgt maj from Army special forces overseas. Was funny how half the people coming into the office to talk with him had beards and generic uniforms/clothing. He was in something totally different but clearly was a vet to be consulted on things.

One time a colleague texted "Jones is mad!" - we all thought someone had been killed, as literally nothing would cause Jones to show any concern or emotion. Turned out to be something else thankfully.
Posted by: rhomboid
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Close knit community. Plus OPSEC for obvious reasons even when retired.

About the same as intel op types--they never truly 'retire' and often do jobs long after their official retirement.

You can talk to one and never know what they did in the past and frankly I want it that way. Not a big one for war stories. Heard enough from several Vietnam vets as a kid that served under my father or later worked for him as he hired vets on occasion.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 03:24 PM (WDjG6)

287 "far from the charitable purposes folks thought they were funding". LOL, Sure the limousine liberals would not have donated money for this gal to buy real estate and take fancy vacations but IMO that was a better use of the money then bonding criminals out of jail on the rare occasions BLM rioters and looters were actually arrested.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 12, 2025 03:25 PM (hhkIi)

288 The only reason Lankford won a senate seat is that he ran as a hardcore conservative. Doubt he'll be re-elected.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons


From what I see on YooToob clips, Lankford still usually talks a good talk. The walk, not so much.

He would not be missed. Unless someone worse took his place. But he has the power of Incumbency on his side.

Article of mine from 2014 on Lankford v Shannon primary contest:
https://bit.ly/mw-ok-sen-2014

Posted by: mindful webworker - Once a Senator, forever a Senator at December 12, 2025 03:26 PM (lbDMw)

289 incredibly misinformed and driven mad by some daddy complex, who always comes and barfs up perfectly inverted generational nonsense? Well here's a potentially great example of how backwards he's got it.

Posted by: rhomboid
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Ah, the many nics of Scoggie Doggie. Have to ask Fenelon for whatever his current one is.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 03:26 PM (WDjG6)

290 Donkey Chompers looks like a biter.

Posted by: wth at December 12, 2025 03:26 PM (v0R5T)

291 Over $50,000 in food and grocery deliveries
......

She fat.

Posted by: wth at December 12, 2025 03:28 PM (v0R5T)

292 Ah, the many nics of Scoggie Doggie. Have to ask Fenelon for whatever his current one is.
Posted by: w


is he needing scolding or something?

Posted by: n at December 12, 2025 03:28 PM (Nmj5t)

293 BLM never stated what the money was for, so what exactly did the donors think it was going to?
Posted by: Ian S.

Protection money from public shakedowns. Jesse Jackson and later Al Sharpton among others developed this sort of protection racket long ago as a means of generational wealth by grifting.

Mafia in prison for such activities can only look on these guys with awe as they did the same thing but got charged and convicted for it.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 03:29 PM (WDjG6)

294 Heh. Political beliefs of Indians in OK. I have noticed the Choctaw Nation is striving to be traded on the S&P 500. The Cherokee Nation wants to maintain sole ownership with reinvestment of funds going into construction projects. And then you have the Pottawatomie Nation. That's just fun to say.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 12, 2025 03:29 PM (gm9Sb)

295 NOOD Indiana
https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=417673

Posted by: mindful webworker - noo noo noodling at December 12, 2025 03:30 PM (lbDMw)

296 Whoa, Black Betty, BLM-a-lam
Whoa Black Betty, BLM-a-lam
Black Betty had a fund, BLM-a-lam
That she used for fun, BLM-a-lam
Really didn't mind, BLM-a-lam
Robbin' suckers blind, BLM-a-lam
Whoa, Black Betty, BLM-a-lam
Whoa, Black Betty, BLM-a-lam

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 12, 2025 03:30 PM (wtvvX)

297 From what I see on YooToob clips, Lankford still usually talks a good talk. The walk, not so much.

He would not be missed. Unless someone worse took his place. But he has the power of Incumbency on his side.

Article of mine from 2014 on Lankford v Shannon primary contest:
https://bit.ly/mw-ok-sen-2014
Posted by: mindful webworker
======
Depends if the old camp for children scandal involving Lankford as manager comes to light again. You can do a pretty good hit ad with what Lankford said in depositions regarding the lawsuit over children being molested at that camp. And then follow with his vacant idiotic remarks on the last big bipartisan push for amnesty under Biden as McConnell's meat puppet.

But it would take a fair chunk of change to try to take out a sitting senator.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 03:32 PM (WDjG6)

298 AOC is starting to get that Latinx spread. Trying to acquire the "big booty Latina" butt that she never had.

Posted by: Kareem of Wheat at December 12, 2025 03:32 PM (vqA1l)

299 With good behavior, she can cut that sentence in half.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug

Wouldn't have good behavior right from the start resulted in no jail time at all?

I know - crazy talk.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2025 03:32 PM (cYBz/)

300 Ever seen the music video of the little darlings dancing to the Wa tusi.

Melting pot of cultures has large chunks.

Posted by: thug dolphin at December 12, 2025 03:42 PM (EyfuW)

301 With good behavior, she can cut that sentence in half.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug

Wouldn't have good behavior right from the start resulted in no jail time at all?

I know - crazy talk.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2025 03:32 PM (cYBz/)
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We live in strange times when a valid point -> "crazy talk".

But these are Crazy Times.

Posted by: Axeman at December 12, 2025 03:42 PM (krQz2)

302 .
Negroids gonna 'rhoid.

Posted by: Marooned at December 12, 2025 03:49 PM (kt8QE)

303
Former "operators" on social media are the wettest bunch of whiny drama queens out there. Like a bunch of perimenopausal women sniping and bitching all day every day but they all have to share the same hair salon because it's the only one in town.

I swear half of them were probably never even in the military and the other half were remfs.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2025 03:03 PM (Vq1pX)



There's this 'roided out douchebag on yootoob who goes by Valhalla PMS or some shit like that. It seems like the ONLY thing he posts is shitting all over every spec ops name he can look up in Wikipedia, whether they're online or not. Spare me the obvious tactical douchecanoes with their HGH/Planet Fitness muscles, tattoos, perfectly styled gay lumberjack beards and 5.11 wardrobe.

Fact is, the scariest, most deadly Delta trooper ever to serve (Mike Vining) looked like a high school Rubik's Cube champion who played trombone in the marching band.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 12, 2025 04:20 PM (y9nCu)

304 I bet she's one who Nags a lot.

Posted by: Prickly Pete Salmonella at December 12, 2025 04:35 PM (dFG8E)

Tyler Robinson Smirks and Swaggers in Court, Showing No Remorse for Murdering Charlie Kirk

It's almost as if he likes his chances at trial.

Tyler Robinson, accused in Charlie Kirk killing, smirks and chuckles during first in-person court appearance, with family in tow

...

Thursday's hearing was the first time Robinson was physically present and seen in court. Prior hearings were virtual.

Robinson looked unfazed by the grim charges he faces -- which accused him of brutally shooting the 31-year-old Kirk on Sept. 10 during a Turning Point USA talk at Utah Valley University in front of a crowd of thousands.

Why is this man smiling?

Because he knows he won't be convicted. He has leftist supporters who want to reward him for murdering Charlie Kirk, and he has members of the pseudoright -- Candace Owens acolytes -- who think he was framed by the Deep State to cover up Erika Kirk's murder of her husband.

So get ready for the acquittal. It's coming, and Tyler Robinson knows it.

And don't think "At least the acquittal will finally convince Candace Owens to stop with her insane grifting practices." No, it won't. She's smile, she'll laugh, and she'll say, "You see, I was right! The acquittal proves it was Israel and Egyptian Planes who killed Charlie Kirk!"

For months, Candace Owens has been claiming that officials at TPUSA were covering up the assassination-- because they were in on it from the start. Owens claims they're hiding video tape that only they have which would prove that the lethal shot wasn't taken by Tyler Robinson, but from someone much closer to Kirk, both in terms of physical proximity and close personal relationship. Her "mommysleuths" are obsessed with the idea that a 30-06 bullet should have been seen visibly impacting the wall behind Kirk, therefore, he wasn't killed by a rifle bullet. Must have been a pocket pistol carried in, who knows, maybe a.... purse?!

Owens has pretended she was not accusing Erika Kirk as being part of the assassination plot, even as she accused Erika of covering up the murder. But of course, only someone directly involved in her husband's murder would have any interest in covering it up.

After showing the patience of a saint and letting this diseased toxic lunatic smear her as a husband-murderer for three months, Erika Kirk has finally had enough and told Candace Owens to STOP.

The cruelty that has been heaped on Charlie Kirk's widow, Erika, since his assassination three months ago has been unrelenting.

First it was leftist ghouls cheering on his cold-blooded murder, in front of a crowd of 3,000 people at the first stop of his Turning Point USA "American Comeback Tour" outdoors on the campus of Utah Valley University on Sept. 10.

The ghouls gloried in the death of the young father of two, mimicked the instant the bullet hit his throat, created T-shirts with his image and gushes of blood to celebrate the moment his voice was silenced.

...

But what has been far worse than the leftist haters are right-wing-adjacent grifters and nuts pushing wicked conspiracy theories about Charlie's murder, pointing the finger at his colleagues, friends and even Erika herself.

These fantasies have been peddled primarily by former prominent TPUSA luminary Candace Owens on her hit podcast, which gets more than 40 million views for her wildest rants.

She has claimed Israeli Mossad agents, men in maroon shirts, the US military, Egyptian planes, Jewish donors and the French government are somehow complicit.

She also claimed some kind of Mormon cult centered around... bee worship might have had a hand in it.


She endlessly plays videos of that awful day and theorizes about the "exit wound" or lack thereof.

See, if there's no exit wound, that means that one of Charlie Kirk's own staffers must have shot him from the stage using a lower-powered pistol bullet.

Just asking questions?

Worst of all, she torments Charlie's widow by suggesting in a disingenuous "just asking questions" way that Charlie was "betrayed" by the people who loved him most.

Do you know this next part? Her "proof" that Charlie Kirk was "betrayed" by those closest to him is... a dream.

She claims that Charlie Kirk cane to her in a dream and told her to smear her friends and wife as conspiracists in his murder.

Her proof?

A dream.

"I had a very vivid dream whereupon Charlie told me that he had been betrayed."

She has thrown suspicion on Charlie's pastor, his chief of staff, his chief operating officer, his spokesman, the camera guy, you name it.


She plays clips of their reactions the moment Charlie was shot and claims they looked guilty.

She is suspicious that TPUSA supposedly won't give her their footage of Charlie's murder that she laughably claims she needs so she can "debunk all these internet conspiracies."

"Everything about this is wrong," she said.

"I helped to build that organization, so I am almost the perfect person to discern what is normal and what is abnormal."

She also claims: "I've chosen to be on the side of goodness and truth no matter what the cost is."

Her daily tantalizing drip feed of absurdities cashing in on her former friend's death has made her millions of dollars.

Finally, Erika Kirk broke her self-imposed silence -- trying to let Candace Owens' hatred, jealousy, and narcissism just burn itself out naturally, only to realize it would never burn out because the money is too good -- to tell Owens to stop.

She didn't name Owens, but it's clear who she's talking about. (Owens herself says it's clear that Erika is calling Owens out.)


Finally, on Wednesday, Erika Kirk erupted in a controlled demolition of Owens and all who amplify her toxicity.

"This is righteous anger, because this is not OK. It's not healthy. This is a mind virus," she told Harris Faulkner on Fox News' "Outnumbered" program in an appearance to promote the publication of her husband's final book, "Stop, in the Name of God."

"I want justice for my husband, for myself, for my family, more than anyone else out there. But here's my breaking point on that. Come after me, call me names, I don't care.

"Call me what you want, go down that rabbit hole, whatever."

"But when you go after ... the people that I love, and you're making hundreds and thousands of dollars, every single episode going after the people that I love [saying] because somehow they're in on this? No."

With courage and graceful intensity, she explained why she so far has remained silent in the face of ever more cruel clickbait: "My silence does not mean that somehow, Turning Point USA, and all of the handpicked staff that loved my husband -- and my husband loved them -- is somehow in on it."

Remember, she patiently allowed Candace Owens to defame her for months to let her burn it out of her, and now that silence is taken as an admission she was in on it.

At one point, Erika turned to the camera and pointedly addressed the conspiracy theorists:

"Just know that your words are very powerful, and we are human. My team are not machines, and they're not robots. We have more death threats on our team and our side than I have ever seen ... What are we supposed to do? Relive that trauma all over again?"

The best part was that Erika never mentioned the name of the woman who TPUSA insiders say is afflicted by "first wife" syndrome.

They say Owens is consumed by jealousy that Erika has been appointed CEO of TPUSA, following Charlie's express wishes to the board and colleagues and captured on video.

"She is a woman scorned," one TPUSA insider said of Owens.

"She was iced out of TPUSA ... She was not close to Charlie -- he kept her at arm's length. He knew the best tack on her was to keep her on ice ... She was not invited to Charlie's wedding."


Owens has repeatedly claimed she wants to meet with TPUSA staffers to get to the "truth" and claimed she would go anywhere and debate anyone to prove her dream of Charlie Kirk is accurate.

TPUSA agreed to a public debate -- and then Owens made excuses and said that date wouldn't work for her. And nor would any other date.


...

At first, Charlie's family and colleagues decided to ignore the bile.

But last week, his inner team, who have been running his podcast since he died, finally invited Owens to come on the show and clear the air.

They have spent all week negotiating with her but say she keeps making excuses for why she can't go to their studio in Phoenix, including that there is a ­local "cartel" that wants to assassinate her.

She has also claimed that French President Emmanuel Macron -- who is suing her for defamation over her prolonged claims that his wife, Brigitte, is really a man -- has ordered her assassination.

Of course, she claims there's an Israeli in the assassin squad.

You might think that Erika Kirk telling her to stop might make her stop.

Why would you think that?

Well, because Candace Owens said she would stop if and when Erika Kirk told her to stop.

You see, for months, when people told Candace Owens that it was rotten to smear a widow as culpable in her husband's murder, she claimed that only two people could make her stop spinning her conspiracy theories about Erika Kirk -- her husband (or "husband," as other conspiracy theories posit), or Erika Kirk herself.

So... because Candace Owens is truthful and honorable and not motivated by insane levels of narcissism, entitlement, and belief that Erika Kirk should have put Candace Owens in charge of Charlie Kirk's organization, she immediately honored her promise and agreed to no longer spread conspiracy theories about Erika Kirk being an accomplice in her husband's murder.

Just kidding!


Everyone acknowledges that Candade Owens is baselessly accusing Erika Kirk of having murdered her husband. Everyone, that is, but Megyn Kelly, who continues insisting the "brilliant" Candace Owens never said any such thing.

Owens now says it's "absurd" for Erika Kirk to whine about being smeared as a murderess.


Often-incoherent podcaster Candace Owens fired back at Erika Kirk as the widow finally addressed the conspiracy theories surrounding Charlie Kirk's death and Turning Point USA, claiming the widow "missed the mark" and accused her of using "the exact same emotional strategy deployed by BLM."

"It is a positively ABSURD notion that you cannot critique a 150 million dollar organization because the CEO says they are like a family, and are grieving," Owens railed on X.

"It is the exact same emotional strategy deployed by BLM in the wake of George Floyd's death, when I called out their shady financial dealings."

Erika Kirk has been publicly pushing back for the first time on rampant conspiracy theories flying around the internet by conservative activists about her husband's assassination -- among them Owens, a once close friend of Charlie's.

...

She's repeatedly gone after Erika, who was named CEO of Turning Point USA -- the massive conservative activist organization founded by Charlie.

Owens later attacked Erika on her podcast for not addressing the rumors publicly as the new CEO of the company, but as a mourning widow.

"It completely missed the mark for me. I am sorry. It just has. But the good news is that she is now un-murking the water in terms of her intentions with this massive political organization," Owens said on her podcast after Kirk's TV appearance.

What she means is that Erika Kirk, by telling Owens to stop defaming her, has confirmed that TPUSA was in on the murder plot all along.

This is why I have been so vitriolic about conspiracy theorists and their maniacal belief that anyone pushing back against the conspiracy theory is just further proof of the conspiracy theory being right. Every time I've railed against conspiracy theorists lately, I have been thinking of this ugly Low-IQ grifter whore.

I guess i should have said so.

When confronted by one of her own lunatic supporters about her promise to "stop" if Erika asked her to, Candace Owens, get this, prevaricates. She claims that Erika didn't tell her to stop, but to stop lying, and because she's not lying (she claims), she'll keep on doing what she does.

Except she lied right there, didn't she?

Not only is Candace Owens refusing to "stop" as she promised she would do if asked, but she's doubling down and attacking Erika Kirk more, accusing her of showing "no passion" in talking about the murder of her husband -- wink, wink -- and giving "ChatGPT answers" when accused of murder.

Another of Candace Owens' conspiracy theories is that Erika Kirk is hiding his body by not publicizing the location of his grave. Which she assumes would be immediately vandalized and desecreated by the left, forever. But no, this is further proof she is hiding the body to cover up her own involvement in his murder.

She says she is building a beautiful memorial for Charlie Kirk, which will be public. But she seems to, understandably I think, want to keep the location of his actual grave private.

Erika Kirk says she is in fact scared that the jury has been "tainted" by both left-wing support of left-wing killers and conspiracy theorists claiming that she is the Real Killer of her husband.

Erika Kirk and TPUSA haven't sued Candace Owens for defamation and intentional infliction of extreme emotional distress... yet. Owens should remember that when Alex Jones accused parents of children killed in a school shooting of pretending their kids had been killed, a jury absolutely destroyed him with a multi-billion dollar judgment. That is way too much, but Owens should keep in mind that when you accuse people who are the victims of a tragedy of being complicit in that tragedy, a jury can decide that your lies are worth billions of dollars.


Remember, Candace Owens is just "anti-Zionist" not anti-Jew you guys.

Allie Beth Stuckey
@conservmillen

Candace commented on my Instagram post saying I only disagree with her baselessly implicating Charlie's friends in his murder because my great-grandfather whom I never met was Jewish. Okay.

Also, apparently, she was Charlie's only true friend.

I have been extremely, explicitly clear that Charlie and I had a strong friendship that was completely professional. I'm grateful to be one of many that he shared stages and wisdom with over the years.

Charlie's inner circle -- his friends, his coworkers, his WIFE -- are the only ones who loved and knew him best and they are the ones we can trust to seek true justice on their behalf.


This woman had a great grandfather she never met who was Jewish so Candace Owens -- not antisemitic, mind you, just "anti-Zionist" -- accuses her of being "tribal."

Tucker Carlson decided to weigh in on the Jews Killed Charlie Kirk Conspiracy Theory, of course. The grifting potential is just too tempting.

He does his usual cowardly signalling that he likes the conspiracy theory without having the guts to sign his name to it. He says he supports Candace Owens in her search for "truth," and says that she is acting in good faith when she accuses Erika Kirk of arranging her husband's murder. Then he says he does not trust the FBI, thereby discarding the evidence against Tyler Robinson.



I used to say "No, Tucker isn't just doing this for the money, he's a Nepo Baby and heiress (yes, I said heiress) to the Swanson frozen food fortune. He doesn't need the money."

Now I'm not so sure. It can't be a coincidence that Tucker Carlson always goes where the clicks are.

And it can't be a coincidence that the guests he keeps having on to spread propaganda just happen to be paid foreign agents.

Tucker Carlson totally isn't taking money from Qatar, a country which infamously pays people off to say nice things about Qatar.

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1 BLADE IS FIRSTIEST

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 01:16 PM (iFTx/)

2 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at December 12, 2025 01:18 PM (5IH8V)

3 Why? Did they finally call in an exorcist?

@disclosetv 2m
JUST IN - U.S. removes sanctions imposed on Brazilian Supreme Court Justice Alexandre de Moraes — Bloomberg

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 12, 2025 01:18 PM (mlg/3)

4 She didn't name Owens, but it's clear who she's talking about. (Owens herself says it's clear that Erika is calling Owens out.)

==

She did directly - in the upcoming CBS Townhall. I saw the clip !

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 01:19 PM (g47mK)

5 Egyptian planes?

Known Jewish country...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 12, 2025 01:19 PM (bss/y)

6 *Get ready for the AOS groyper contingent

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 01:19 PM (g47mK)

7 En fuego!

Posted by: That Guy who shouts "En fuego!" at December 12, 2025 01:20 PM (0sNs1)

8 This guy looks like a smarmy Fag.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 12, 2025 01:20 PM (Wg6v7)

9 Moar Code of Hammurabi!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 01:21 PM (xcxpd)

10 >>>She did directly -- in the upcoming CBS Townhall. I saw the clip !

oh cool. I forgot that was coming.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 01:21 PM (1wjle)

11 There's that Tucker clip again. So it'll be a shiplap thread soon enough.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 01:21 PM (77rzZ)

12 "Owens should remember that when Alex Jones accused parents of children killed in a school shooting of pretending their kids had been killed, a jury absolutely destroyed him with a multi-billion dollar judgment."

That trial was a farce and railroad. This trial was the trial run for railroading political opponents. AJ was an easy target, sure. But of course it didn't stop there.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 01:22 PM (iFTx/)

13 Candace Owens will soon connect Charlie's death to Ancient Astronauts.

Posted by: Max Power at December 12, 2025 01:22 PM (SwyyQ)

14 She also claimed some kind of Mormon cult centered around... bee worship might have had a hand in it.

Utah -> Mormons -> Beehive State. It's all right there in front of you, sheeple!

Posted by: Oddbob at December 12, 2025 01:22 PM (3nLb4)

15 He's a rock start to the left, and he knows it; why shouldn't he smirk?
And then there are psychopaths on the so-called right like Candace swearing that he's innocent because it was really the French Foreign Legion what done it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 01:22 PM (uWKK8)

16 Have they arrested or charged Squirrel Boy yet as an accessory?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 01:23 PM (77rzZ)

17 There sure are a lot of terribly horrible people in this world.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 12, 2025 01:23 PM (wtvvX)

18 Tucker's favorite bathroom is decorated in bamboo shitlab. Discuss.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 12, 2025 01:23 PM (mlg/3)

19 I don’t know why Tucker is on the AmFest speaker list. He is buying a house in Dubai, isn’t he? Shock.

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 01:23 PM (ZdaMQ)

20 Tucker and Candace are grifting morons.

Their stupidity and mendacity is exceeded only by their supporters.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 01:24 PM (1Nv0l)

21 Owens has to be one of the biggest attention whores I've ever had the displeasure of knowing.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 12, 2025 01:25 PM (/HDaX)

22 >>>19 I don’t know why Tucker is on the AmFest speaker list. He is buying a house in Dubai, isn’t he? Shock.

I just heard that. " " " Buying " " " a house, right. He will be taking possession of it, let's leave it at that.

Another foreign government bribe for Mr. America First.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 01:25 PM (1wjle)

23 Have they arrested or charged Squirrel Boy yet as an accessory?
Posted by: Bulg
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They offered him an acorn to turn state's witness.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 01:25 PM (1Nv0l)

24 I am what is popularly referred to as a Mormon, in reality a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Gotta say, the idea that we have secret bee worship section is a new one.

Certainly the bee is one of the many symbols we use, but worship it? Um, no. And the bee symbol itself is mostly tied to Utah and pioneer history; as the Church goes worldwide the bee is fading as far as any sort of relevance goes.

That said, the word "Deseret" is translated as honeybee, so if you see Deseret, it is associated with the bee.

Posted by: SimoHayek at December 12, 2025 01:25 PM (0Aoc4)

25 My wife was a Candace Owens fan so I get to hear WAY more about her than I'd like.

Frankly unless she's being spit-roasted wearing high heels and stockings and nothing else, I don't care about her or anything she says or does.

She's a con artist, a greedy grifter and very probably mentally ill. Which means the spit roasting scene is probably also fetish porn and not just regular porn.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 01:25 PM (xcxpd)

26 I've been watching profound mental illness interviews from the 40s-70s on Youtube. Those poor people make the new Tucker and Ovens look crazy in comparison.

Posted by: Dr. Whatsamatta at December 12, 2025 01:26 PM (oftw2)

27

Didn't the Utah governor say at some point "be kind"?

The shitstain will not be convicted.

Posted by: four seasons at December 12, 2025 01:26 PM (3ek7K)

28 She's smile, she'll laugh, and she'll say, "You see, I was right! The acquittal proves it was Israel and Egyptian Planes who killed Charlie Kirk!"

I thought it was Jew Space Lasers? I can't keep these things straight.

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at December 12, 2025 01:26 PM (qIS88)

29 I thought this post was about Tyler Robinson.

Posted by: zombie at December 12, 2025 01:26 PM (oraVG)

30 Mrs. Kirk maybe should have said, "Stop before I come over to your house and kick the crap out of you," but she's too much of a lady.

Posted by: huerfano at December 12, 2025 01:26 PM (98kQX)

31 >>>21 Owens has to be one of the biggest attention whores I've ever had the displeasure of knowing.

she was always like this. She made herself some big controversy in high school and at the age of 18 or whatever gave a TED talk about her victimization. Her thirst for attention is Saharan.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 01:26 PM (1wjle)

32 He smirks like a man who knows he never could have made that shot or make it 'bounce' or whatever is currently claimed.

...but meeting someone going by "Jack Ruby" will change his expression.

Posted by: t-bird at December 12, 2025 01:26 PM (T7fic)

33 Dana Loesch has a montage of Tucker denying he knows or has met various people followed by clips of him talking with these people. Dave Rubin just pointed out that Tucker has denied knowing him while revealing that they've each appeared on the other's show and Tucker wrote the blurb for his book. Conversely, Tucker claiming he's met people whom he never has. Bill Ackman is the latest example. (Ackman calls Tucker a "soulless POS".).

Tucker has also lied about his father's role in the CIA and also about being in a plane crash in Pakistan.

The nice way to put it, he's a serial fabulist.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 12, 2025 01:26 PM (VnsnO)

34 "Tyler Robinson, accused in Charlie Kirk killing, smirks and chuckles during first in-person court appearance, with family in tow"

Why not? He doesn't think he did anything wrong. He thinks he's a hero, and incredibly tens of millions of Americans agree.

My prediction: This fudgepack beats the rap. I don't think it will even be close.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 01:27 PM (iFTx/)

35 I don’t know why Tucker is on the AmFest speaker list. He is buying a house in Dubai, isn’t he? Shock.
Posted by: Piper

Qatar.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 01:27 PM (77rzZ)

36 Once acquitted, the psycho Left will make sure Robinson will never have to work a day in his life. He's a hero to them.

Posted by: brak at December 12, 2025 01:27 PM (jGJov)

37 Also: Utah Valley, which is where Robinson's trial is being held, is absolutely NOT a hotbed of leftism. If they get a jury from Utah valley/Utah county, it should be pretty easy to get a conviction, and the state is pushing for the death penalty. And the legislature is under a lot of pressure to actually reform the appellate system so as to make sure these death penalties get carried out so someone doesn't just grow old and die in prison, as happened recently.

Posted by: SimoHayek at December 12, 2025 01:27 PM (0Aoc4)

38 I stopped watching when the Judge became 'overly concerned' the shackles on the murder were accidentally shown by a courtroom camera.

Yes of course you're right, Ace.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at December 12, 2025 01:27 PM (7BRdR)

39
Are firing squads still done in Utah?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 01:27 PM (tgvbd)

40 He will be convicted.

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 01:28 PM (/+FOE)

41 He won't be acquitted.

He *may* dodge the death penalty.

Killing someone for their beliefs ain't gonna go down well in Mormonland.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 01:28 PM (1Nv0l)

42 oh right, not dubai, but Doha, Qatar.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 01:28 PM (1wjle)

43 This shit is crazy.

Posted by: Guy who think this shit is crazy at December 12, 2025 01:28 PM (TbWk/)

44 FU Candace Owens!

Posted by: redridinghood at December 12, 2025 01:28 PM (NpAcC)

45 35 I don’t know why Tucker is on the AmFest speaker list. He is buying a house in Dubai, isn’t he? Shock.
Posted by: Piper

Qatar.
Posted by: Bulg at December

Even better. Insert eye roll.

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 01:28 PM (ZdaMQ)

46 29 I thought this post was about Tyler Robinson.
Posted by: zombie at December 12, 2025 01:26 PM (oraVG)

It started out like that but the mood all changed.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 01:28 PM (xcxpd)

47 she was always like this. She made herself some big controversy in high school and at the age of 18 or whatever gave a TED talk about her victimization. Her thirst for attention is Saharan.
Posted by: ace

Wasn't she somehow involved in the Gamergate thing, and that's what put her on the map?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 01:28 PM (77rzZ)

48 Candy O is like Major Tom floating round in a tin can far above the Moon. Planet Earth is blue and there's nothing she can do.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 01:29 PM (L/fGl)

49 Further, Robinson confessed, multiple times, to multiple people. Outside of some sort of jury nullification thing, he's gonna fry.

Posted by: SimoHayek at December 12, 2025 01:29 PM (0Aoc4)

50 She also claimed some kind of Mormon cult centered around... bee worship might have had a hand in it.
===

It can be found in the Mormon Quarter of Jerusalem.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2025 01:29 PM (9ipOP)

51 Ace, thank you for the thorough roasting of those *grifters*. I'm sick to death of the "just asking questions" crowd who pretends they're on "our" side.

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 01:30 PM (TN0g+)

52 Utah does do firing squads if the perp requests it. It's not the default, but certainly an option.

Posted by: SimoHayek at December 12, 2025 01:30 PM (0Aoc4)

53 I thought Candace Owens was insane. Now I think she is flat evil. And incredibly jealous of Erika Kirk.

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 01:30 PM (ZdaMQ)

54 I do want to see the evidence about the shot and the bullet. That one shot neck shot with no exit wound is...odd. Not impossible, Jim Cirillo has seen weirder stuff, but odd.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 01:30 PM (xcxpd)

55 Tucker is just pathetic. His justification is unreal.
He's talking out of both sides of his mouth like Gavin Newsom.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 12, 2025 01:30 PM (NpAcC)

56 50 She also claimed some kind of Mormon cult centered around... bee worship might have had a hand in it.
===

It can be found in the Mormon Quarter of Jerusalem.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2025 01:29 PM (9ipOP)

Ok, I laughed.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 01:30 PM (xcxpd)

57 I'm going to hell for asking this, but does anyone else think that Erika Kirk is ... well, strange? I don't for a minute believe that she was complicit in her husband's murder, and I cannot fathom the grief she is experiencing, but I find her speaking and mannerisms very odd in a sort of carefully calculated drama sort of way. I probably shouldn't even bring it up, but it's an observation that may or may not explain why Owens feels emboldened to defame her in such a way.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at December 12, 2025 01:30 PM (bNf8H)

58 I don't buy an acquittal, he's just a lunatic jerk. And Candace lost her mind about the time she was fired from the Daily Wire. They knew something we didn't at the time.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2025 01:30 PM (dfIr7)

59 49 Further, Robinson confessed, multiple times, to multiple people. Outside of some sort of jury nullification thing, he's gonna fry.
______

Heh, Rookie mistake.
-Zombie OJ Simpson, author of 'IF I did it'

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 01:31 PM (Dv3i1)

60 I stopped watching when the Judge became 'overly concerned' the shackles on the murder were accidentally shown by a courtroom camera.

Yes of course you're right, Ace.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day

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That's standard stuff. I believe SCOTUS weighed in on this at one point. Can't prejudice the jury.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 01:31 PM (1Nv0l)

61 That said, the word "Deseret" is translated as honeybee, so if you see Deseret, it is associated with the bee.
Posted by: SimoHayek at December 12, 2025 01:25 PM (0Aoc4)

Interesting. I always took the beehive symbol to be emblematic of industriousness...git 'er done.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 01:31 PM (npFr7)

62 >>.Wasn't she somehow involved in the Gamergate thing, and that's what put her on the map?

I don't think so. She claimed she had been doxxed or defamed or something (irony!) so she wanted to create a site called "Social Autopsy" where poeple could dox the doxxers. Two left-wing women -- one of them, IIRC, the left-wing gamergate whore Zoe Quinn -- told her that was a terrible idea, because if you create a site where people can post unvetted defamatory material about internet "harassers," of course the harassers will just use the site to dox more victims.

That was 100% right. But Owens is a low-IQ narcissist who thinks that every stupid idea she has is brilliant, so she began spiraling out claiming these left-wing women were trying to trick her into abandoning her brilliant idea.

She was a left-winger then. She says she became "right wing" because these left-wing women tried to "trick" here.

She has never been right wing. She has always been a left-wing narcissist looking for attention and fame.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 01:32 PM (1wjle)

63 It's almost as if he likes his chances at trial.

Like with Fani Willis, it depends WHERE the trial is being held...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 01:32 PM (ynpvh)

64 I predict (and I am pretty good at this, since I predicted that Carlson will be buying property in Qatar months and months ago!) that Carlson will be expanding/branching out his so called "network" to terrorist outpost and Iran's money launderer Qatar. Home of Al Jazeera btw. Where he will be fed "guests" and "opinion leaders" to propagandize further. He is a piece in Qatar outreach and influence peddling, together with ongoing "investments" in US politicians.

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 01:32 PM (g47mK)

65 Everyone acknowledges that Candade Owens is baselessly accusing Erika Kirk of having murdered her husband. Everyone, that is, but Megyn Kelly, who continues insisting the "brilliant" Candace Owens never said any such thing.
====

Done with Megyn's version of dissembling too.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2025 01:33 PM (9ipOP)

66 >>>And Candace lost her mind about the time she was fired from the Daily Wire.

she's always been a lunatic. See post 62.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 01:33 PM (1wjle)

67 I think the Judge in this case has gotten marching orders: Make sure the trial is very fair, and then give him the death penalty, with no reason for an appeal to succeed. The judge is highly regarded as a fair judge, so I think this is going to be a by the book judicial execution.

Posted by: SimoHayek at December 12, 2025 01:33 PM (0Aoc4)

68 I do want to see the evidence about the shot and the bullet. That one shot neck shot with no exit wound is...odd. Not impossible, Jim Cirillo has seen weirder stuff, but odd.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

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Oh ffs this has been addressed over and over.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 01:33 PM (1Nv0l)

69 57 I'm going to hell for asking this, but ...

Posted by: Frasier Crane

Depends, are you just asking questions?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 01:33 PM (Dv3i1)

70 It was swamp gas reflecting light from Venus off a weather balloon

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2025 01:34 PM (D+mpw)

71 Certainly the bee is one of the many symbols we use, but worship it? Um, no. And the bee symbol itself is mostly tied to Utah and pioneer history; as the Church goes worldwide the bee is fading as far as any sort of relevance goes.

That said, the word "Deseret" is translated as honeybee, so if you see Deseret, it is associated with the bee.
Posted by: SimoHayek at December 12, 2025 01:25 PM (0Aoc4)

I always liked the Beehive Highway signs.

who knew that they were signposts to secret rendevous points?

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 01:34 PM (uWKK8)

72 I do want to see the evidence about the shot and the bullet. That one shot neck shot with no exit wound is...odd. Not impossible, Jim Cirillo has seen weirder stuff, but odd.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

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Oh ffs this has been addressed over and over.
Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 01:33 PM (1Nv0l)

Go on. It's on topic.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 01:34 PM (xcxpd)

73 51 Ace, thank you for the thorough roasting of those *grifters*. I'm sick to death of the "just asking questions" crowd who pretends they're on "our" side.
Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 01:30 PM (TN0g+)

Even have one or two around here, and an apologist or two. Can't win 'em all.

Posted by: Hopefully they're seen for what the really are at December 12, 2025 01:34 PM (TbWk/)

74 Ace, thank you for the thorough roasting of those *grifters*. I'm sick to death of the "just asking questions" crowd who pretends they're on "our" side.
Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 01:30 PM (TN0g+)
*******
This^
Thank you ace!

Posted by: redridinghood at December 12, 2025 01:34 PM (NpAcC)

75 Don't forget Ben Shapiro. Same class.

Drop the charges and let nature take its course.

Posted by: connected and litigious at December 12, 2025 01:35 PM (cS1cw)

76 Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 01:32 PM (1wjle)

Thanks. So Candace was not involved in Gamergate, but the Gamergate woman was one of her "harassers." I knew there was some connection to Gamergate.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 01:35 PM (77rzZ)

77 Utah does do firing squads if the perp requests it. It's not the default, but certainly an option.
Posted by: SimoHayek at December 12, 2025 01:30 PM (0Aoc4)

Time to make wood chipper the default, then.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 01:35 PM (npFr7)

78 Bad news. In the Netherlands, the two young men who projected "WHITE LIVES MATTER" on a bridge in Rotterdam have lost their appeal and their six months prison sentence was reaffirmed. Dutch media are calling this a "light sentence".

-
Talk about a divisive message!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 01:35 PM (L/fGl)

79 What do Tucker and Megan have in common?

Both worked for FNC well past the point of knowing exactly what it was.

I pointed this out sometime ago and it was generally rarely enjoyed. But there are always clues, and sometimes they don't need Sherlock Holmes.

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 01:35 PM (/+FOE)

80 NOT THE BEES!

Posted by: Bobby Hugbox at December 12, 2025 01:35 PM (C24tU)

81 6 *Get ready for the AOS groyper contingent
Posted by: runner
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Some nics just like pulling people's chains here. That is an old AOS schtick and a tiresome one.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 01:35 PM (WDjG6)

82 ok well I agree Owens and Carlson are god-awful but I don't think Tyler believes he'll get off.

I think he's just an evil son of a whore

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 12, 2025 01:35 PM (emBoF)

83 So it just about the money and clicks with Tucker?

It's deeper. He fancies himself a daring iconoclast, someone with experience and history inside the Great Beast but who cut loose and has the guts and wherewithal to expose it. I surmise that no small part of his psychology is the fact he's an ex-alcoholic and needs the alternate "dry-drunk" fix or high supplied by his platform and rabble-rousing claims.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 12, 2025 01:35 PM (VnsnO)

84 ...but I find her speaking and mannerisms very odd in a sort of carefully calculated drama sort of way.

I haven't seen much of her speaking, not even at Charlie's memorial but how would you act if you knew someone was micro-analyzing every word and movement you made looking for something, anything, to attack you over?

Posted by: Oddbob at December 12, 2025 01:35 PM (3nLb4)

85 I used to say "No, Tucker isn't just doing this for the money, he's a Nepo Baby and heiress (yes, I said heiress) to the Swanson frozen food fortune. He doesn't need the money."

Now I'm not so sure. It can't be a coincidence that Tucker Carlson always goes where the clicks are.
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You mean Doha?

Oh sorry, I thought you said where the "bucks" are.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2025 01:36 PM (9ipOP)

86 Didn't the Utah governor say at some point "be kind"?
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The "Republican" governor of Utah asserted that the Democrat Josh Shapiro would make a fine president.

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 01:36 PM (TN0g+)

87 Isn't it strange that the "just asking questions" crowd is always "just asking" the exact same questions that leftist jerkweeds are asking, and only those questions?

Very strange, I tells ya!

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 01:36 PM (iFTx/)

88 Beehive, Bah!

Posted by: The Tinman at December 12, 2025 01:36 PM (77rzZ)

89 Is there anybody in the media that isn't insane?

Posted by: pawn at December 12, 2025 01:36 PM (EMg+d)

90 I always liked the Beehive Highway signs.

who knew that they were signposts to secret rendevous points?
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 01:34 PM (uWKK

Oh honey...

Posted by: Sticky situation ahead, 12 miles at December 12, 2025 01:36 PM (TbWk/)

91 Yes, Alberta Oil Peon: The honeybee is a symbol of industriousness, hard work, and community. Which is why the Mormon pioneers adopted it, and it is the state symbol of Utah. But the word "Deseret" is a Book of Mormon word (originally tracing to Egyptian 'dsrt') that was explicitly listed as translating to the word honeybee.

As such, the word Deseret entered the greater Utah cultural area... and the original name for the territory that wanted to become a state was the territory of Deseret. Congress changed it to "Utah." And chopped down the boundaries. The beehive was the state symbol back then and still is now. The "University of Deseret" became the University of Utah, but the Deseret News is still one of the two leading newspapers in the state.

Posted by: SimoHayek at December 12, 2025 01:36 PM (0Aoc4)

92 Dutch media are calling this a "light sentence".
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Does Dutch media know anything about Dutch prisons?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 01:36 PM (Dv3i1)

93 Guy! Owens is a piece of lefty trash grifter, like that Jasmine Crockett character !check this out : "My favorite thing about Candace is when she didn’t pay rent on her $3,550 per month luxury apartment so she got evicted… and then she decided to sue the landlord saying the apartment gave her “systematic yeast infections”… she lost and had to pay $21,300 plus legal fees.."

https://tinyurl.com/bdfv9pae

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 01:37 PM (g47mK)

94 Do not think he will be acquitted. Best he could hope for is a hung jury. He would need 3 hold outs. He is kind of ugly, so I don't see it happening.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 12, 2025 01:37 PM (wGerL)

95 . Dutch media are calling this a "light sentence".
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Racists

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 01:38 PM (/+FOE)

96 Candace worked for Ben Shapiro, who is very publicly Jewish. Candace and Ben had a big fight about something that got personal. It got so ugly that Ben said we can't work together, and being the boss he fired her.

Candace was so outraged and insulted that she decided that not only did she hate that Jew Ben Shapiro, she hated ALL Jews for All time, and she hated them so much that she decided that the "Final Solution" had actually been a pretty darn good idea. And she wanted to see it carried out.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 01:38 PM (uWKK8)

97 Oh sorry, I thought you said where the "bucks" are.
Posted by: San Franpsycho


Tell me more.
-- Pete Buttigieg

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 01:38 PM (77rzZ)

98 Not sure if the jury is going to like a defendant with a smug, holier-than-thou attitude.

If his demeanor shouts out, "Yeah, I did it. Watcha gonna do about it?" then his chances may not be as good as his cockiness would suggest.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 01:39 PM (ESVrU)

99 ***Tyler Robinson Smirks and Swaggers in Court, Showing No Remorse for Murdering Charlie Kirk
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This is why the Brits would draw and quarter people.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 01:39 PM (lQBYU)

100 I'm willing to believe, without evidence, that Candy has systematic yeast infections.

Posted by: Bobby Hugbox at December 12, 2025 01:39 PM (C24tU)

101 Go on. It's on topic.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards,

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The bullet ricocheted off one of his top vertebrae and deflected down his spine, eventually smashing C4 or C5 or thereabouts.

He was dead on impact from his neck being torn out, but even without that he would have bee dead from the spinal injury.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 01:39 PM (1Nv0l)

102 Robinson's lawyer was smiling and batting her eyelashes at him like she's a high school cheerleader and he's the star quarterback.

Posted by: American Barf Association at December 12, 2025 01:39 PM (qUkBO)

103 68 I do want to see the evidence about the shot and the bullet. That one shot neck shot with no exit wound is...odd. Not impossible, Jim Cirillo has seen weirder stuff, but odd.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

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Oh ffs this has been addressed over and over.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 01:33 PM (1Nv0l)

Indeed. Ricochet off his body armor at the edge, up into his neck. It was plain to see in the vids that very day.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 01:39 PM (ynpvh)

104 Again, this is the lefts moral vision, and they are imposing it with great enthusiasm as evidenced by this monster.

If the conservatives wish to survive and flourish, they must impose their moral vision or perish.

The time for talk is over, obviously.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 12, 2025 01:39 PM (XV/Pl)

105 So, since Ben Shapiro has been mentioned...

...did y'all know that his sister has ginormous breasts?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 01:39 PM (77rzZ)

106 Posted by: Ordinary American at December 12, 2025 01:35 PM (VnsnO)

I read that in Tucker's serious voice, then I added his goofy laugh at the end.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 01:39 PM (Dv3i1)

107 84 ...but I find her speaking and mannerisms very odd in a sort of carefully calculated drama sort of way.

I haven't seen much of her speaking, not even at Charlie's memorial but how would you act if you knew someone was micro-analyzing every word and movement you made looking for something, anything, to attack you over?
Posted by: Oddbob at December 12, 2025 01:35 PM (3nLb4)

She's naturally going to be very cautious and measured considering the circumstances, and add in she's probably being constantly coached by attorneys, PR people and crisis communication consultants for obvious reasons. So it's not going to be like a freewheeling conversation at the pub on a Friday night.

Posted by: Considering the circumstances she's doing fine at December 12, 2025 01:40 PM (TbWk/)

108 Robinson looked unfazed

I prepared him well.

Posted by: His Therapist (you know he has one) at December 12, 2025 01:40 PM (T7fic)

109 So, Erica v. Candice v. Megyn

One more and we could have a pretty watchable tag team mud wrestling event.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 12, 2025 01:40 PM (uxVjF)

110 There is a full doc on the internet, looks like 2017, and landlord response. Docket number , everything.

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 01:40 PM (g47mK)

111 I don't know if it's a great idea setting up the left's Führry as likely to get away with it. And I'm as pessimistic as the next guy, I completely understand where you're coming from. But when he's charged, and finally gets some measly manslaughter charge or something everyone will cheer, "he didn't actually get away with it!" And the truth is:

- he shouldn't have gotten away with it.
- leftists shouldn't be assassinating their opponents.
- leftists shouldn't be targeting their opponents for assassination
- leftists shouldn't be cheering the assassination of their opponents
- leftist's opponents should be free to engage in whatever debate they wish whenever and without fear of violence

But, instead, we will be glad that as we are all hunted down, one by one, and the entirety of the media cheer on their dogs, there is at least a chance a leftist somewhere will be prosecuted for it.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 12, 2025 01:40 PM (3uBP9)

112 105 So, since Ben Shapiro has been mentioned...

...did y'all know that his sister has ginormous breasts?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 01:39 PM (77rzZ)

She does?

Posted by: Kingdom of the Khazars at December 12, 2025 01:40 PM (ynpvh)

113 As far as the bullet... wasn't the idea that the bullet hit the top of Kirk's bullet proof vest and ricochet up into his neck? That would seem to rob much of the energy, and change the trajectory, so if there was an "exit hole" wasn't it in the ceiling instead of the wall behind Kirk?

I could be totally wrong, of course... I haven't followed this particular conspiracy theory except I know that leftists use it, when they aren't gloating about Kirk being murdered.

Posted by: SimoHayek at December 12, 2025 01:40 PM (0Aoc4)

114 102 Robinson's lawyer was smiling and batting her eyelashes at him like she's a high school cheerleader and he's the star quarterback.
Posted by: American Barf Associatio

I wonder what she looks like in her furry costume.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 01:40 PM (Dv3i1)

115 BTW "anti-Zionist" has been used up.

Don't bother, we know what you really mean and also you're a pussy without the courage of your convictions.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2025 01:40 PM (9ipOP)

116 Candace Owens and Jasmine Crockett, separated at birth.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 01:40 PM (lQBYU)

117 If I were a young guy I'd be embarrassed for everyone to know I sucked furry trans dick but I guess that's a popular thing to do these days.

Posted by: NCKate at December 12, 2025 01:40 PM (uQzkA)

118 >>"My favorite thing about Candace is when she didn’t pay rent on her $3,550 per month luxury apartment so she got evicted… and then she decided to sue the landlord saying the apartment gave her “systematic yeast infections”… she lost and had to pay $21,300 plus legal fees.."



Her Cup Foameth Over.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2025 01:41 PM (IaZ7c)

119 The "Republican" governor of Utah asserted that the Democrat Josh Shapiro would make a fine president.
Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 01:36 PM (TN0g+)

I saw that and he also chastised Trump

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 01:41 PM (VE6XX)

120 >>>I surmise that no small part of his psychology is the fact he's an ex-alcoholic and needs the alternate "dry-drunk" fix or high supplied by his platform and rabble-rousing claims.

i keep making the "dry drunk" point. I learned about that from Dan Riehl. I think it refers to an alcoholic who stopped drinking but who still has the quick temper his brain learned to have from being pickled for years at a time. Someone else told me it's when an alcoholic gives up the sauce but never addresses the problems that led to the alcoholism in the first place.

Remember when Andrew Sullivan went from being sexually rapt by George W. Bush to despising him? There is a type of political junkie for whom the only thing that matters is believing in some quasi-religious political ideology with a zealot's fury. It doesn't matter what is believed, just that the Believer Believes. Thus, Andrew Sullivan can go from writing "Mash Notes to Bush" on Monday to denouncing him as Satan by Saturday.

Same with Tucker Qatarlson, as Mark Levin calls him.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 01:41 PM (1wjle)

121 Bold move suing your landlord for the clap.

Me? I would probably just take the antibiotics and keep quiet.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 01:41 PM (1Nv0l)

122 Some nics just like pulling people's chains here. That is an old AOS schtick and a tiresome one.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 01:35 PM (WDjG6)



and get people in trouble, then claim to be a victim, like we say yesterday

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 01:42 PM (g47mK)

123 Miller :

"Has Charlie's murder changed how you do things or were you already locked down pretty well before that?"

Musk:

"It certainly reinforced the severity of the situation where life is on hardcore mode. You make one mistake, and you're dead, and it only takes one mistake."

youtu.be/bz5Hjk40FD4?t=758

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 01:42 PM (lQBYU)

124 Robinson's lawyer was smiling and batting her eyelashes at him like she's a high school cheerleader and he's the star quarterback.
Posted by: American Barf Association at December 12, 2025 01:39 PM (qUkBO)

Even Richard "The Nightstalker" Ramirez had groupies.

Posted by: Wimminz can be strange at December 12, 2025 01:42 PM (TbWk/)

125 If this country had any balls this dude would already had his trial, conviction, and hung by the neck. But they will drag it out for years. And don't expect a death penalty for first degree murder. Because that would be cruel.

Posted by: Case at December 12, 2025 01:42 PM (G1OIb)

126
She has claimed Israeli Mossad agents, men in maroon shirts, the US military, Egyptian planes, Jewish donors and the French government are somehow complicit.

__________

She forgot the Freemasons, the Rosicrucians, the Bilderbergers and the Elks.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 01:42 PM (tgvbd)

127 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Vincent Di Maio was America's leading gunshot pathologist and wrote the literal book on gunshot wounds used a key legal treatise on the matter. Mas and Jim Cirrillo (now deceased for about ten years) were good friends with Vincent.

Basically, high powered bullets depending on construction can do all sorts of seemingly weird twists and turns when they hit obstructions. The old Mark VII bullet from the Brits in 303 was a battlefield killer beyond its modest ballistics as is the 5.56 55 gr fmj. That is because when they hit any solid obstruction, bone, metal, even drywall in the case of 5.56, they become tumbling ass over teakettle aka keyholing--can happen internally shredding a body or by making truly large exit wounds. All depends on angle, force remaining in the bullet, force expended by entry, obstacles, etc. and meeting the requirement for enough ft pds to exit the human skin.

That is just for full metal jackets. Hunting bullets are often specifically designed to stay in teh body but cause immediate death because in and out means a long chase of a wounded animal. Considered inhumane.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 01:42 PM (WDjG6)

128 119 The "Republican" governor of Utah asserted that the Democrat Josh Shapiro would make a fine president.


Shapiro is utterly useless

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 12, 2025 01:42 PM (emBoF)

129 Speaking of Giant Breasts:

AT&T Lily is back in the News.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2025 01:43 PM (IaZ7c)

130 Erika Kirk was never a public person but has been forced to be by the assassination of her fucking husband and now she's being knocked for not being naturally at-ease in public speaking?

I just uttered a profanity I had sworn off. What the fuck is wrong with some of you?

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 01:43 PM (1wjle)

131 57 I'm going to hell for asking this, but does anyone else think that Erika Kirk is ... well, strange?
Posted by: Frasier Crane at December 12, 2025 01:30 PM (bNf8H)

Yes. At some point, the emoting needs to stop. You can be the grieving widow but not the CEO of a major organization at the same time. And calling for critics or Owens to "stop" was never going to work in Owens case nor pass muster in a free speech society. It only feeds the beast. In my view, she needs to assemble her team and calmly, impersonally, rationally expose Owens' lies and Owens herself (and how she reflects sicknesses in the culture). Also, to enunciate the qualities and virtues of her husband and by extension the value of Turning Point.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 12, 2025 01:43 PM (VnsnO)

132 My favorite thing about Candace is when she didn’t pay rent on her $3,550 per month luxury apartment so she got evicted… and then she decided to sue the landlord saying the apartment gave her “systematic yeast infections”… she lost and had to pay $21,300 plus legal fees.."



Her Cup Foameth Over.
Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2025 01:41 PM (IaZ7c)

Snizz Fizz

Posted by: That's super gross at December 12, 2025 01:43 PM (TbWk/)

133 I am officially, and completely, retired.

I feel pretty good about that.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 12, 2025 01:43 PM (ExV1e)

134 As such, the word Deseret entered the greater Utah cultural area... and the original name for the territory that wanted to become a state was the territory of Deseret. Congress changed it to "Utah." And chopped down the boundaries. The beehive was the state symbol back then and still is now. The "University of Deseret" became the University of Utah, but the Deseret News is still one of the two leading newspapers in the state.
Posted by: SimoHayek at December 12, 2025 01:36 PM (0Aoc4)

Thank you. I knew there is a Mormon connection to the word "Deseret". You see it all over Utah on various signs, and I see "Deseret Industries" on some buildings in AZ, too. I had assumed it was some antique variant of "desert", which was wrong.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 01:43 PM (npFr7)

135 Erika Kirk and TPUSA should invoke the Annie Oakley stratagem and, in the courts, go after every libelous or defamatory claim made by Candice Owens.

Being silent until now is exactly what lawyers would have recommended if that was the plan. Perhaps it is.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 12, 2025 01:43 PM (O7YUW)

136 I just uttered a profanity I had sworn off.

Gosh darn it?

Posted by: Bobby Hugbox at December 12, 2025 01:44 PM (C24tU)

137 Ace, you have to stop linking any Candace Owens videos...to make her irrelevant, you have to get folks to stop listening to her, either in support or hate. You just hit ignore to the grifter and make her useless to her payers and she'll drift away into nothingness.

For now, she keeps upping the lies and hate to our side b/c it's working to get us to respond. Our only response should be "Candace is a known grifter. She represents no one but her payers' interests."

Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2025 01:44 PM (tOcjL)

138 59 49 Heh, Rookie mistake.
-Zombie OJ Simpson, author of 'IF I did it'
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 01:31 PM (Dv3i1)

Remember the father of the young man who was kilt alongside Nicole won a yuuge civil judgement against OJ and was able to take the rights to the book and changed the title to:

if I DID IT

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 12, 2025 01:44 PM (QGaXH)

139 she was always like this. She made herself some big controversy in high school and at the age of 18 or whatever gave a TED talk about her victimization. Her thirst for attention is Saharan.
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yeah, when you see the list of websites and projects she's started---she is a serial grifter; wherever a dollar falls on the ground, Candace can be found.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 01:44 PM (HXT0k)

140
Right on Ace!!!

Let's judge people by how they handle grief.

Humanity at it's best.

Posted by: four seasons at December 12, 2025 01:44 PM (3ek7K)

141 117 If I were a young guy I'd be embarrassed for everyone to know I sucked furry trans dick but I guess that's a popular thing to do these days.
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Well, maybe he watched too much Tele Tubbies as a kid?

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 12, 2025 01:44 PM (Wg6v7)

142 Indeed. Ricochet off his body armor at the edge, up into his neck. It was plain to see in the vids that very day.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

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His bodyguard said it ricocheted of his upper vertebrae and smashed into a lower one. Not off his vest.

It looks that way too. His paralysis pose after impact isn't something you would get from the neck wound alone. It suggested spinal damage.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 01:44 PM (1Nv0l)

143 I heard the Furry boyfriend is in witness protection... I guess all the white supremacist's MAGA's want to kill him or something? I'm thinking the people who were behind this are the ones that would try to silence him... Takes off tin foil hat

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 01:44 PM (VE6XX)

144 Now I'm not so sure. It can't be a coincidence that Tucker Carlson always goes where the clicks are.

Yeah I will never believe that anyone won't do stuff for money just because they have money. Like Rockefeller said to the question how much is enough: "more."

But it doesn't have to be money, it could be ego, desire for connections and access, fame, etc. But the man has no principles and I think he's crazy too. That lunatic giggle during a funeral... dude.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 12, 2025 01:44 PM (dfIr7)

145 This is the full complaint : https://tinyurl.com/4mrm8fjc

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 01:44 PM (g47mK)

146 Candace Owens is sincerely not the hill to die on. She would watch you and your entire family burn for two penneth.

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 01:45 PM (/+FOE)

147 >>i keep making the "dry drunk" point. I learned about that from Dan Riehl. I think it refers to an alcoholic who stopped drinking but who still has the quick temper his brain learned to have from being pickled for years at a time. Someone else told me it's when an alcoholic gives up the sauce but never addresses the problems that led to the alcoholism in the first place.


I'm betting Tucker has slipped back into Pharma usage.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2025 01:45 PM (IaZ7c)

148
I am officially, and completely, retired.

I feel pretty good about that.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

_________

Did they tear your epaulets off and break your Ticonderoga #2 pencil over their knee?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 01:45 PM (tgvbd)

149 >>>118 >>"My favorite thing about Candace is when she didn’t pay rent on her $3,550 per month luxury apartment so she got evicted… and then she decided to sue the landlord saying the apartment gave her “systematic yeast infections”… she lost and had to pay $21,300 plus legal fees.."

someone just told me about this! Apparently she's always suing people or being sued by people.

except now that she married a rich homosexual I guess she's not suing people as much. (Allegedly. Though I should say it is alleged an awful lot.)

Her gay beard (allegedly) husband should probably make sure that their finances are 100% separate or else Erika Kirk will take all of his money away too.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 01:45 PM (1wjle)

150 130 Erika Kirk was never a public person but has been forced to be by the assassination of her fucking husband and now she's being knocked for not being naturally at-ease in public speaking?

I just uttered a profanity I had sworn off. What the fuck is wrong with some of you?
Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 01:43 PM (1wjle)

Ace, some posters here are also paid to demoralize us...ignore them, too.

Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2025 01:45 PM (tOcjL)

151 I am officially, and completely, retired.

I feel pretty good about that.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Congrats! What bar will you be buying us drinks at?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 01:45 PM (77rzZ)

152 142 Indeed. Ricochet off his body armor at the edge, up into his neck. It was plain to see in the vids that very day.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

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His bodyguard said it ricocheted of his upper vertebrae and smashed into a lower one. Not off his vest.

It looks that way too. His paralysis pose after impact isn't something you would get from the neck wound alone. It suggested spinal damage.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 01:44 PM (1Nv0l)

However it happened, he was assassinated by a lefty trans-loving furry.

Posted by: Kingdom of the Khazars at December 12, 2025 01:46 PM (ynpvh)

153 if the state fails, will the Feds take over ?

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 01:46 PM (g47mK)

154 Candace Owens admitted to having Stage IV Mummycunt?

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 01:46 PM (1wjle)

155 Candace’s conspiracies on plots to murder her are out and out funny. Macron and his secret assassin squad. Men in hoodies in the woods who have yet to be identified. Sharks. (Maybe I made that up). She is actually jealous she wasn’t the one murdered and wants to be murdered for attention, too! She is a narcissist and narcissists with fans and a platform are very dangerous things.

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 01:46 PM (ZdaMQ)

156 Well done, used to have nic

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 01:46 PM (/+FOE)

157 Shapiro is utterly useless
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Perfect!

Posted by: Deep State at December 12, 2025 01:46 PM (qUkBO)

158 he was not wearing a vest

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 01:46 PM (g47mK)

159 If Robinson's lawyer is batting ger eyelashes at him she's an idiot. He likes cock

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2025 01:46 PM (D+mpw)

160 I am officially, and completely, retired.

I feel pretty good about that.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

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Congrats!

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 01:46 PM (1Nv0l)

161 I like how, after the revelation that almost all of the support for Tucker, Candace, Fuentes, et al., was oversea bot farms, the response of these grifters has been ... to pretend nothing changed and ignore that their "support" is bought and paid for.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 01:46 PM (HXT0k)

162 >>...did y'all know that his sister has ginormous breasts?

Thanks, Bulg, this thread is now boob-adjacent.

Posted by: Nazdar at December 12, 2025 01:47 PM (NcvvS)

163 the autopsy report is very clear about what happened

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 01:47 PM (g47mK)

164 It's a dog park.

♪ ♫ ♬ ♪ ♩

It's a dog park.

Posted by: wth at December 12, 2025 01:47 PM (v0R5T)

165 Did they tear your epaulets off and break your Ticonderoga #2 pencil over their knee?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 01:45 PM (tgvbd)


After the tearful goodbye, I tried to turn in my access badge but the office was closed so the receptionist just deactivated it and gave it back. Then I drove home, logged into linkedin, and changed my status to retired.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 12, 2025 01:47 PM (ExV1e)

166 I used to have a different nic


Congratulations!!!

Posted by: pawn at December 12, 2025 01:47 PM (EMg+d)

167 162 >>...did y'all know that his sister has ginormous breasts?

Thanks, Bulg, this thread is now boob-adjacent.

Posted by: Nazdar at December 12, 2025 01:47 PM (NcvvS)

So this thread has been side-boobed...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 01:47 PM (ynpvh)

168 If Robinson's lawyer is batting ger eyelashes at him she's an idiot. He likes cock
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2025 01:46 PM (D+mpw)

Correction: He likes FURRY cock.

Please make a note of it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 01:48 PM (h4uy9)

169 Tucker also just did a podcast with some Islamic dude in which Tucker restated how much he personally Hates any Christian who supports Israel or who thinks of themselves as a Zionist. That was the first break point for me, where I knew I was done listening to him forever, and now he just keeps doubling down, betraying his love of Islam more and more every day.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 01:48 PM (uWKK8)

170 Re bullets.
A lot of people are listening to military types discussing terminal ballistics which is an issue. FMJ required by the Hague conventions is a different critter than hunting bullets (which are forbidden btw). Second, because most of the military bullets are designed for long range potential, you don't see the destabilizing effects (other than the original M193 55g BT) of keyholing from a bullet ballistic instability caused in part by the center of gravity as well as being boat tailed. The Mark VII got its rep from "the forward third of the bullet's interior was filled with a lighter material" with a cupro nickel and otherwise lead core. That made it unstable when it hit even skin.

Continued.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 01:48 PM (WDjG6)

171 >>>137 Ace, you have to stop linking any Candace Owens videos...to make her irrelevant, you have to get folks to stop listening to her, either in support or hate. You just hit ignore to the grifter and make her useless to her payers and she'll drift away into nothingness.

ignoring isn't working. Her stupid videos -- she's the world's first Fake Crime podcaster -- get 40 million views.

It's time to take this cunt out.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 01:48 PM (1wjle)

172 Assholes gonna be assholes, 24/365

Were I Emperor of the USA, I would decree that persons I declare to be assholes will be put in public stocks for 72 hours. A goodly supply of rotten foods shall be provided nearby, so anyone who wants can throw these at the head of the asshole. Further, an outhouse will be set-up above the head of the asshole, so anyone who wants can climb a ladder to piss and sh!t on the assholes head. And there will be more! Baseball-sized stones shall be randomly included in some of the buckets of rotten food.

Survivors of the stocks shall be locked in solitary for five to twenty years, given only bread and water, that they may think long and well about the consequences of being an asshole.

Too harsh? Not harsh enough?

Posted by: Gref at December 12, 2025 01:48 PM (5rh/l)

173 162 >>...did y'all know that his sister has ginormous breasts?

Thanks, Bulg, this thread is now boob-adjacent.
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They are spectacular.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 12, 2025 01:48 PM (Wg6v7)

174 Congrats! What bar will you be buying us drinks at?
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 01:45 PM (77rzZ)


Can you make it to Cheap Charlies Hangout Bar in Olongapo?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 12, 2025 01:49 PM (ExV1e)

175 It's too soon for me and Kirk's autopsy. I dont even like the word itself.

Posted by: connected and litigious at December 12, 2025 01:49 PM (cS1cw)

176 ignoring isn't working. Her stupid videos -- she's the world's first Fake Crime podcaster -- get 40 million views.

It's time to take this cunt out.
Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 01:48 PM (1wjle)

hear, hear

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 01:49 PM (g47mK)

177 Candace Owens admitted to having Stage IV Mummycunt?

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 01:46 PM (1wjle)

Are you saying she has a slack snapper, Mr 'Wok?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 01:49 PM (h4uy9)

178 I just uttered a profanity I had sworn off. What the fuck is wrong with some of you?
Posted by: ace

CBD already favored us with the nekkid lardass on the ottoman this morning. He must have known what was coming and punished us pre-emptively.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 01:50 PM (77rzZ)

179 STAR CHAMBER!!!

Posted by: Avi at December 12, 2025 01:50 PM (ieodf)

180 She forgot the Freemasons, the Rosicrucians, the Bilderbergers and the Elks.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 01:42 PM (tgvbd)
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And Methodists!

Posted by: Hedley Lamarr at December 12, 2025 01:50 PM (yNJrI)

181 It's almost as if these women have a completely different telos than most men. They seem to seek attention above all else.

By "women," I mean the Candice, the heiress, Megyn, MTG,...

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 12, 2025 01:50 PM (uxVjF)

182 After the tearful goodbye, I tried to turn in my access badge but the office was closed so the receptionist just deactivated it and gave it back. Then I drove home, logged into linkedin, and changed my status to retired.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 12, 2025 01:47 PM (ExV1e)
====

Mazel.

Today is the first day of the rest of your life or something.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2025 01:50 PM (9ipOP)

183 I am officially, and completely, retired.

I feel pretty good about that.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 12, 2025 01:43 PM


Congratulations! Relax hard.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 01:50 PM (kgE5c)

184
and get people in trouble, then claim to be a victim, like we say yesterday
Posted by: runner
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It takes a perverse brain to enjoy that. And possibly a danger IRL.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 01:51 PM (lQBYU)

185 180 She forgot the Freemasons, the Rosicrucians, the Bilderbergers and the Elks.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 01:42 PM (tgvbd)
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And Methodists!

Posted by: Hedley Lamarr at December 12, 2025 01:50 PM (yNJrI)

It's the Lutherans and their jello molds...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 01:51 PM (ynpvh)

186 I'm betting Tucker has slipped back into Pharma usage.
Posted by: garrett

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That would explain it.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 01:51 PM (1Nv0l)

187 A gaping gash?

A cavernous cunny?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 01:51 PM (h4uy9)

188 109 So, Erica v. Candice v. Megyn

One more and we could have a pretty watchable tag team mud wrestling event.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus)
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I think maybe this Allie Beth girl would work. If not, then that Shapiro sister. I hear she has ginormous tits.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 12, 2025 01:51 PM (uxVjF)

189 171 >>>137 Ace, you have to stop linking any Candace Owens videos...to make her irrelevant, you have to get folks to stop listening to her, either in support or hate. You just hit ignore to the grifter and make her useless to her payers and she'll drift away into nothingness.

ignoring isn't working. Her stupid videos -- she's the world's first Fake Crime podcaster -- get 40 million views.

It's time to take this cunt out.
Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 01:48 PM (1wjle)

They are fake bot views...she is irrelevant to us, and thus continue to state "she represents solely her foreign payers' interests."

Just like Drudge went from #1 by a mile to what did I say last month, 256 and irrelevance, that's the way you send Candace the same way. Start the same campaign of "ignore" - make that public - unlike, unlink, unfriend, and effectively make unimportant the feed...get Data Republican to then follow up with how few of Candace's views come from America...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2025 01:52 PM (tOcjL)

190 >>After the tearful goodbye, I tried to turn in my access badge but the office was closed so the receptionist just deactivated it and gave it back. Then I drove home, logged into linkedin, and changed my status to retired.

When I retired last Spring, the last time I had seen a colleague in person was 2019. Hadn't had a working access badge to company offices since 2009. WFH & Customer-site travel FTW!

Posted by: Nazdar at December 12, 2025 01:52 PM (NcvvS)

191 Remember the father of the young man who was kilt alongside Nicole won a yuuge civil judgement against OJ and was able to take the rights to the book and changed the title to:

if I DID IT


Punctuation matters.

"If? I did it."

Posted by: Oddbob at December 12, 2025 01:52 PM (3nLb4)

192 Derka Carlson

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 01:52 PM (/+FOE)

193 183 I am officially, and completely, retired.

I feel pretty good about that.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 12, 2025 01:43 PM
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Good show. What's your new hobby?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 01:52 PM (lQBYU)

194 >>So this thread has been side-boobed...

LOL, jim!

Posted by: Nazdar at December 12, 2025 01:53 PM (NcvvS)

195 Frankly, I need to see the aereolas to be sure on Shapiro's sister.

(I apologize)

Posted by: connected and litigious at December 12, 2025 01:53 PM (cS1cw)

196 180 She forgot the Freemasons, the Rosicrucians, the Bilderbergers and the Elks.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 01:42 PM (tgvbd)
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And Methodists!
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Never forget the Kiwanis. They sell Christmas Trees. I know.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 12, 2025 01:53 PM (Wg6v7)

197 What's your new hobby?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 01:52 PM (lQBYU)


I'm going to start by purging all traces of Microsoft from my domicile.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 12, 2025 01:53 PM (ExV1e)

198 I'm betting Tucker has slipped back into Pharma usage.
Posted by: garrett

He always stunk of fraud. Did make some funny faces though.

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 01:53 PM (/+FOE)

199 Ace you swore off at-ease? Hmmm

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2025 01:53 PM (D+mpw)

200 Correction: He likes FURRY cock.

Please make a note of it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

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Beaver, furry cock: they're all hairy animals.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 01:53 PM (1Nv0l)

201 Another one is Megyn Kelly who called Ben Shapiro a liar when he said that Owens is implicating Erika, and everyone in TPUSA in his murder and what she is doing is evil. Then Kelly defended Owens, for which Owens thanked her. Megyn Kelly is trash, and unprincipled cvnt, just like all the other youtube grifters.

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 01:54 PM (g47mK)

202 91 The beehive was the state symbol back then and still is now. The "University of Deseret" became the University of Utah, but the Deseret News is still one of the two leading newspapers in the state.
Posted by: SimoHayek at December 12, 2025 01:36 PM (0Aoc4)

You seem quite knowledgeable about all things Utah.

On a recent road trip on I-15 we observed several places off the side of the road where it seemed the residents had dug fairly large pits and pushed their old cars into them. Can you enlighten us as to what that is all about?

Some secret Mormon ritual?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 12, 2025 01:54 PM (QGaXH)

203 She forgot the Freemasons, the Rosicrucians, the Bilderbergers and the Elks.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


The Templars.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 01:54 PM (77rzZ)

204 They are fake bot views..

I tend to think this too.

Lots of inorganic astroturf, ops, and mobies out there. The Internet seems especially susceptible to this. Probably because it is a series of tubes.

Posted by: Bobby Hugbox at December 12, 2025 01:55 PM (C24tU)

205 It takes a perverse brain to enjoy that. And possibly a danger IRL.

==

something scuzzy about that one

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 01:55 PM (g47mK)

206 Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson have destroyed any credibility they had as far as I'm concerned. They could DIAFS and it wouldn't bother me at all.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at December 12, 2025 01:56 PM (H0l69)

207 The thing about Owens that always struck me was that thousand yard stare. It's like she's talking to you but trying to figure out the moon landing. Very odd.

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 01:56 PM (/+FOE)

208 What was the remark that Tucker made at Charlie's memorial service that was supposedly a swipe at the Jews.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 01:56 PM (77rzZ)

209 You're forgetting the Shriners. They pack a lot of evil into those little cars. Hide it under their fezes.

Posted by: Bobby Hugbox at December 12, 2025 01:56 PM (C24tU)

210 Megyn Kelly is trash, and unprincipled cvnt, just like all the other youtube grifters.
Posted by: runner

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I was a bit of a fan of Megyn for a while. Can't remember what she did exactly, but I realized at some point she was all-in on the grift.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 01:56 PM (1Nv0l)

211 PS - Not sure you're all following the U of Mich head coach charges, but it seems to be...
Step 1 - Have an affair with your hottie underling
Step 2 - Give her a raise with school money
Step 3 - Deny the relationship Fall 2024
Step 4 - Have her break up with you b/c you're married and she can do better
Step 5 - Fail to handle that break up and stalk her for months
Step 6 - Fire her b/c she still won't go out with you
Step 7 - Have her show the school evidence of the affair and get you fired
Step 8 - Go to her house, break in, and threaten her and yourself with a knife (and possibly also assault her) before bailing to a Church to get arrested

AKA, not a bright guy

Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2025 01:56 PM (tOcjL)

212 and get people in trouble, then claim to be a victim, like we say yesterday
Posted by: runner
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It takes a perverse brain to enjoy that. And possibly a danger IRL.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 01:51 PM (lQBYU)

Common tactic among leftists and abusers. For which there is heavy overlap.

Posted by: Checks the Venn diagram at December 12, 2025 01:57 PM (TbWk/)

213 209 You're forgetting the Shriners. They pack a lot of evil into those little cars. Hide it under their fezes.

Posted by: Bobby Hugbox at December 12, 2025 01:56 PM (C24tU)

They probably have Fez dispensers at their temples...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 01:57 PM (ynpvh)

214 208 What was the remark that Tucker made at Charlie's memorial service that was supposedly a swipe at the Jews.
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 01:56 PM (77rzZ)

Something about Humus

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 01:57 PM (VE6XX)

215 >>She forgot the Freemasons, the Rosicrucians, the Bilderbergers and the Elks.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Not to mention the Illuminati!

Posted by: Nazdar at December 12, 2025 01:57 PM (NcvvS)

216 He's smiling because he already won.

Whether or not the government convicts him or not, some low level leftist activist murdered one of the most effective leaders on the right.

The left traded a pawn for a knight. And they have millions of pawns.



Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2025 01:57 PM (sKqQm)

217 Hunting bullets, under no such Hague Convention rules, have assorted selectivity depending on what you want. Target types are thinly skinned and have an explosive effect on entry from teh jacket shedding and fragmentation (unless bonded) but penetrate relatively poorly and are diverted by hard obstacles like bone, etc. There are hunting bullets that are bullet designs for tough skinned game emphasizing penetration rather than bullet deformation aka Nosler's Partition or Remington's Core Lokt designed to mushroom and penetrate creating large wound channels. And there are intermediate type bullets for thin skinned game so the bullet is retained in the body aka deer hunting bullets. These are designed to expand within the body often giving relatively small entry wounds and often no exit wound through various designs like plastic ballistic tips, open tipped, etc.

To know terminal ballistics, a ballistician figures type of game, bullet weight, bullet design with that weight, cost, and the needed velocity to generate optimal terminal effect. Military throws in fmj (or equivalent) as another limiting factor.

So you can get odd bounces there confounding internet experts.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 01:57 PM (WDjG6)

218 I didn't know Tucker was a drunk. I like his theory about dry-drunks.

I think many drunks have an overwhelming pain when they think of something in their lives, usually some failure of some kind, and they drink to ease that pain.

So I guess a dry drunk would take extreme bullying steps to show how they are superior and not failures.

(I know this because my older brother is a drunk. He spends his spare time destroying anything I do, and calling up me and my family and harassing us. He is obsessed with how inferior he is, and of course I have tried to understand what is going on.)

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 12, 2025 01:57 PM (uxVjF)

219 I saw Systematic Yeast Infections open for Anthrax, Pestilence, and Jungle Rot at the Grim Reaper Fest in '92.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 12, 2025 01:57 PM (3uBP9)

220 I do not think Erika Kirk is strange. I think she is widow of a high profile person, a person she actually loved. So not only has her entire life been turned upside down and inside out, she is being judged for it. She still has children she has to be strong for, she has these crazies saying whatever, and there is a trial for the man who killed her husband going on, something she doesn’t want to taint. Her husband died, but life still moves on and she has to figure out navigating through it all. There is no handbook for this.

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 01:57 PM (ZdaMQ)

221 The thing about Owens that always struck me was that thousand yard stare. It's like she's talking to you but trying to figure out the moon landing.
Posted by: ...

She thinks the moon landing was faked.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 01:57 PM (77rzZ)

222 Owens , Carlson, Shapiro, and even Kelly are evidence that when your entire life is wrapped up in podcast reactions , you live by them and die by them.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2025 01:58 PM (D+mpw)

223 I just assume all the talking heads get PR money from somebody to get clicks. Qatar, CIA, Israel, China, Russia. Pick one or all.

Posted by: NCKate at December 12, 2025 01:58 PM (uQzkA)

224 I think you're misinterpreting his attitude. He's not smirking etc. because he thinks he's going to get off. He's giddy because for the first time in his life he's being acknowledged and accepted by a large group of people (albeit lunatics). I don't doubt that he's getting massive amounts of mail from supporters. And, that's something he's been trying to achieve his whole decrepit life. Inclusion, acceptance, revelry.

Lunatics have strange priorities. That was his.

Posted by: Orson at December 12, 2025 01:58 PM (dIske)

225 Honestly I assumed murdering the friend and ally of the president would have led to much of antifa being rolled up and big name Dems coordinating them facing charges.

Instead we aren't even getting a serious investigation of squirrel boy.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2025 01:58 PM (sKqQm)

226 She thinks the moon landing was faked.
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 01:57 PM (77rzZ)


The moon landing is a man! -- CandyO

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 12, 2025 01:58 PM (ExV1e)

227 I do not think Erika Kirk is strange. I think she is widow of a high profile person, a person she actually loved. So not only has her entire life been turned upside down and inside out, she is being judged for it. She still has children she has to be strong for, she has these crazies saying whatever, and there is a trial for the man who killed her husband going on, something she doesn’t want to taint. Her husband died, but life still moves on and she has to figure out navigating through it all. There is no handbook for this.
Posted by: Piper

Well said, Piper.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 01:59 PM (77rzZ)

228
ignoring isn't working. Her stupid videos -- she's the world's first Fake Crime podcaster -- get 40 million views.

It's time to take this cunt out.
Posted by: ace

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wtf?? The less sense she makes, the more views she gets. Her viewership must have morphed over to some bizarre bloc of people wandering in our midst with a single deformed finger or something.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 01:59 PM (1N/bM)

229 "ballistician"

I would date a ballistician.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 01:59 PM (1Nv0l)

230 I just assume all the talking heads get PR money from somebody to get clicks. Qatar, CIA, Israel, China, Russia. Pick one or all.
Posted by: NCKate at December 12, 2025 01:58 PM (uQzkA)


We'll be able to watch it as TJM's attitude on issues starts to change.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 12, 2025 02:00 PM (ExV1e)

231 >>Her stupid videos get 40 million views.

Is this real? How?

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 12, 2025 02:00 PM (uxVjF)

232 The oddest thing about thinking the moon landing was faked is that we've had people in space for months.

Why would it be that much harder to spend someone to the moon and back then to send someone to orbit for months and back?

The moon isn't far by astronomical standards.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2025 02:00 PM (sKqQm)

233 >>>Just like Drudge went from #1 by a mile to what did I say last month, 256 and irrelevance, that's the way you send Candace the same way. Start the same campaign of "ignore" - make that public - unlike, unlink, unfriend, and effectively make unimportant the feed...get Data Republican to then follow up with how few of Candace's views come from America...
Posted by: Nova Local
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My sentiment: She is repulsive vomit, she is NSFW; don't know which is the better way.
But there should be a way to know how many clicks are bots and how many are real. That would help make the decision.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 02:01 PM (lQBYU)

234 I hope there's a 2nd shoe to drop here

@disclosetv 2m
JUST IN - U.S. removes sanctions imposed on Brazilian Supreme Court Justice Alexandre de Moraes — Bloomberg

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 12, 2025 02:01 PM (mlg/3)

235 Shit, wrong one

@LeadingReport 5m
BREAKING: Trump administration is sending $900 bonuses to 18,000 Amtrak workers this Christmas season.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 12, 2025 02:02 PM (mlg/3)

236 Just like Drudge went from #1 by a mile to what did I say last month, 256 and irrelevance,

TBH I think the plan of the google oligarch that took over Drudge was just to make the site useless not really make it a tool for the left

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2025 02:02 PM (sKqQm)

237 Kelly went to the same law school I went to , albeit about ten years behind me. Worked with a guy who was the same year as her. He said she was awesome looking but knew it and acted like she knew it

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2025 02:02 PM (D+mpw)

238 231 >>Her stupid videos get 40 million views.

Is this real? How?
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus)
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Qatar bots?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 02:02 PM (lQBYU)

239 This is the part of Tucker's comments that I think people are referring to:

"So it's about 2,000 years ago in Jerusalem and Jesus shows up and he starts talking about the people in power.
And he starts doing the worst thing that you can do, which is telling the truth about people. And they hate it. And they just go bonkers. They hate it. And they become obsessed with making him stop. This guy's got to stop talking.
We've got to shut this guy up. And I can just sort of picture the scene in a lamplit room with a bunch of guys sitting around eating hummus, thinking about what do we do about this guy telling the truth about us. We must make him stop talking!
And there's always one guy with the bright idea, and I can just hear him say, I've got an idea, why don't we just kill him?"

Posted by: Not exactly subtle at December 12, 2025 02:02 PM (TbWk/)

240 very tangentially related, 2nd look at Brigitte Macron?

Daily Mall-
Brigitte Macron Sparks Backlash For Slamming Feminist Protesters As ‘Stupid Bitches’

Posted by: banana Dream at December 12, 2025 02:02 PM (3uBP9)

241 The oddest thing about thinking the moon landing was faked is that we've had people in space for months.

That's what they want you to think.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 12, 2025 02:02 PM (ExV1e)

242 He's giddy because for the first time in his life he's being acknowledged and accepted by a large group of people (albeit lunatics).

Orson I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 12, 2025 02:03 PM (emBoF)

243 I would date a ballistician.

This one?

https://www.youtube.com/@Boondockballistician

Posted by: Oddbob at December 12, 2025 02:03 PM (3nLb4)

244 Are the Jews responsible for the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs?

I'm just asking questions.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 02:03 PM (L/fGl)

245 Is Candice an op?

Are those 40 million views really just Chinese cell phone farms?

You remember they found one on East Coast, I imagine they have them all over the country and with them, they could easily get 40million views to something as corrosive and destructive to the West as Candice.

And I bet a lot of people (including our own politicians) would pay good money for that.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 12, 2025 02:04 PM (uxVjF)

246 Daily Mall-
Brigitte Macron Sparks Backlash For Slamming Feminist Protesters As ‘Stupid Bitches’
Posted by: banana Dream at December 12, 2025 02:02 PM (3uBP9)


Exactly what you'd expect a man to say. -- CandyO

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 12, 2025 02:04 PM (ExV1e)

247 Here is the thing, and I did not know this until Kelly herself said it - Ben Shapiro was the one who encouraged Kelly to start her network after she was dumped by ABC , or NBC , whatever. Took her out to CA where he was at the time with the Daily Wire, showed her the operation and financials, everything, and encouraged her to branch out on her own. And that is how she is - backstabber. She did something similar at Fox and implicating Roger Ailes with MeTOO garbage. He never recovered. She stabbed Trump. And he never trusted her again and kepted her at a great distance ever since.

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 02:04 PM (g47mK)

248 "The left traded a pawn for a knight. And they have millions of pawns."

Ouch. (takes calming breath)

Posted by: connected and litigious at December 12, 2025 02:04 PM (cS1cw)

249 Wait until some Fkin Comassar Judge let's him.off

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 02:04 PM (Ia/+0)

250 Wait until some Fkin Comassar Judge let's him.off

Good afternoon Ace and everyone

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 02:04 PM (Ia/+0)

251 Quote:

On a recent road trip on I-15 we observed several places off the side of the road where it seemed the residents had dug fairly large pits and pushed their old cars into them. Can you enlighten us as to what that is all about?

Some secret Mormon ritual?
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 12, 2025 01:54 PM (QGaXH)
/ End Quote

Well, Back in the day that's what we used to do with the cars that the vietnam war protestors we caught were driving..... The protestors were recycled and used for our new protein ration bars for the 72 hour kits.

Posted by: SimoHayek at December 12, 2025 02:04 PM (0Aoc4)

252 JUST IN - U.S. removes sanctions imposed on Brazilian Supreme Court Justice Alexandre de Moraes — Bloomberg

That's curious. de Moraes was the point man in the CIA's soft color revolution against Bolsonaro.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2025 02:05 PM (NztoB)

253 235 Shit, wrong one

@LeadingReport 5m
BREAKING: Trump administration is sending $900 bonuses to 18,000 Amtrak workers this Christmas season.
Posted by: weft cut-loop
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One time, Trump should try to book a trip on Amtrak.
They don't have a fucking schedule. It's a guessing game to pick when they are going or coming.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 02:05 PM (lQBYU)

254 So... When do we get to start shooting back?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Jetto at December 12, 2025 02:05 PM (HA9nr)

255 I hated her guts, then she seemed to do a mea culpa, and was on best behavior, so listed to some of her interviews before the election. But now ? Fool me once....

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 02:05 PM (g47mK)

256 Calling Owens Candy O is an insult to The Cars and a damn good album

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2025 02:05 PM (D+mpw)

257 Posted by: Braenyard -

YES!
read my #245 posted just after you

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 12, 2025 02:05 PM (uxVjF)

258 171 - I'm going to go out on a limb here and say I don't think that's really Ace posting #171 "It's time to...."

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 12, 2025 02:06 PM (QGaXH)

259 244 Are the Jews responsible for the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs?

I'm just asking questions.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 02:03 PM (L/fGl)

No. Their machine only affects weather, not space.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 02:06 PM (ynpvh)

260 Brigitte Macron Sparks Backlash For Slamming Feminist Protesters As ‘Stupid Bitches’

Gay men hating women is nothing new.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2025 02:06 PM (NztoB)

261 Not sure you're all following the U of Mich head coach charges, but it seems to be...
Step 1 - Have an affair with your hottie underling
Step 2 - Give her a raise with school money
Step 3 - Deny the relationship Fall 2024
Step 4 - Have her break up with you b/c you're married and she can do better
Step 5 - Fail to handle that break up and stalk her for months
Step 6 - Fire her b/c she still won't go out with you
Step 7 - Have her show the school evidence of the affair and get you fired
Step 8 - Go to her house, break in, and threaten her and yourself with a knife (and possibly also assault her) before bailing to a Church to get arrested

-
That's got to be a 15 yard penalty.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 02:07 PM (L/fGl)

262 I'm just asking questions.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 02:03 PM (L/fGl)

There are no dinosaurs.

Fossils are a Mossad op.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2025 02:07 PM (Vq1pX)

263 She stabbed Trump. And he never trusted her again and kepted her at a great distance ever since.
Posted by: runner

My wife speculated at the time that she and Trump had had an affair that she was butthurt about.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 02:07 PM (77rzZ)

264
I had a dream that a large hippopotamus attacked Candace Owens, and-

chewed her like a piece of bubble gum, then

spit her out and shat on the remains.

Now, I have no idea if that's going to come true or not, but fingers crossed!

Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2025 02:07 PM (iJfKG)

265 The Jews didn't kill the dinosaurs, an asteroid did
Asteroid, Hebroid what's the difference

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2025 02:08 PM (D+mpw)

266 263 She stabbed Trump. And he never trusted her again and kepted her at a great distance ever since.
Posted by: runner

My wife speculated at the time that she and Trump had had an affair that she was butthurt about.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 02:07 PM (77rzZ)

OrangeManBad does anal?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 02:08 PM (ynpvh)

267 OJ smirked too

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 02:08 PM (/+FOE)

268 Not sure you're all following the U of Mich head coach charges, but it seems to be...

Assigning a pretty young blonde woman to be an assistant to the football team feels like an unforced error on the university's part, but yes, the coach is also a piece of work.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2025 02:08 PM (NztoB)

269 Candy O is a great album

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 02:08 PM (Ia/+0)

270 . She stabbed Trump. And he never trusted her again and kepted her at a great distance ever since.
Posted by: runner
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Meghan Kelly is a true bitch.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 02:08 PM (lQBYU)

271 This one?

https://www.youtube.com/@Boondockballistician
Posted by: Oddbob at December 12, 2025 02:03 PM


Hmmm...I need to watch more of this channel to make up my mind.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 02:08 PM (kgE5c)

272 To know terminal ballistics, a ballistician figures type of game, bullet weight, bullet design with that weight, cost, and the needed velocity to generate optimal terminal effect. Military throws in fmj (or equivalent) as another limiting factor.

So you can get odd bounces there confounding internet experts.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 01:57 PM (WDjG6)


Along with the work of ballisticians, terminal effect experts perform tests of bullet designs on representative targets made of ballistic gelatin covered with animal hide, human clothing, etc., as needed. Bones, real or artificial, including spinal columns and skulls, will be included in or outside the ballistic gel. I do not know if animal carcasses are still used for such tests. They used to be the standard terminal effects targets.

Posted by: Gref at December 12, 2025 02:08 PM (5rh/l)

273 I'm going to start by purging all traces of Microsoft from my domicile.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 12, 2025 01:53 PM (ExV1e)
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**** Insert Sad Clippy emoji here ****

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 02:09 PM (ESVrU)

274 I am not saying those 40 million views are definitely bots, but....


If I was in power (China, Quatar, CAIR, Russians, Democrats,....) and this technology existed, I would use it.
- We know the technology exists. 100k phones in one location (IIRC) and you have to think there are many more of these farms.
- We know someone is using them.

So it is safe to assume our enemies are using the tech to undermine our civilization.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 12, 2025 02:09 PM (uxVjF)

275 In further Maryland Man bullshit, the clown judge has issued another illegal injunction, this time barring his detention for any immigration reason.

Which is amazing.

He has now been judicially granted immunity from all immigration law!

This clown judge has completely discarded any semblance of judicial restraint.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 02:09 PM (HXT0k)

276 Fkin judges are letting serious criminals off like they crossed the street in the middle of a block

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 02:09 PM (Ia/+0)

277 >>Are the Jews responsible for the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs?


No. The Dinosaurs were an Op.

You fell for it.

Like a stupid Goy.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2025 02:09 PM (IaZ7c)

278 different nic:

Congratulations and welcome to the club.

I just came across a possibly useful book:

How To Survive Retirement by Steven D Price

I'm not all the way thru it yet but you might want to check it out.

Best Wishes to you

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 12, 2025 02:10 PM (QGaXH)

279 The oddest thing about thinking the moon landing was faked is that we've had people in space for months.
.......

Katy Perry has been in space since the age of 12.

Posted by: wth at December 12, 2025 02:10 PM (v0R5T)

280 How strange, no Burt or Its Go Time Donald in this topic?

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 02:10 PM (TN0g+)

281 130 Erika Kirk was never a public person but has been forced to be by the assassination of her fucking husband and now she's being knocked for not being naturally at-ease in public speaking?

I just uttered a profanity I had sworn off. What the fuck is wrong with some of you?
Posted by: ace
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Society moving from high trust to low trust exhibits all kinds of costs. So basically everyone is making up lists of what sources they trust and what they don't and this allows all sorts of lunacy based on pure reasoning without evidence. And thus even the lack of evidence somehow becomes transformed into positive evidence based on nothing more than feelz (and in carny influencer shill types, money behind it).

Eurotrash want MAGA split as does Uniparty, Big corporations, China, Russia, WEF, etc.

And these evil bastards are willing to pay out the ass for influencers to "just ask questions" and shill disunity on the netz whether it is Epstein, Ham Ass/Qatar, or Charlie Kirk's killing. Just as they did regarding anything where billions and trillions of bucks are on the line.

You can tell what teh big boys want by who is being silenced officially by law, not by societal disgust.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 02:10 PM (WDjG6)

282 My wife speculated at the time that she and Trump had had an affair that she was butthurt about.
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 02:07 PM (77rzZ)

Over the top, he could do so much better, and Trump's type is well known!

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 02:10 PM (g47mK)

283 Are the Jews responsible for the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs?

No. The Mossad was training the dinosaurs to spy on Iran, so it was a big loss when they all died.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2025 02:10 PM (NztoB)

284 Hippo poop? You have got to start working on your sleep hygiene.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 12, 2025 02:10 PM (6Bc88)

285 280 How strange, no Burt or Its Go Time Donald in this topic?
Posted by: Crusader
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Candace Ovens has become a liability by making her strings apparent is my guess. Tucker too.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 02:12 PM (WDjG6)

286 12 That trial was a farce and railroad. This trial was the trial run for railroading political opponents. AJ was an easy target, sure. But of course it didn't stop there.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 01:22 PM (iFTx/)

Alex Jones, like Trump in the "bank fraud" case, didn't even get a trial. The entire court proceeding was the penalty phase. The court was not trying to determine if he had done anything wrong, but to figure out how much the the thing the judge had already decided he was guilty if was going to cost him. (BTW, I think Jones is an asshole and is best left ignored, and what he said about Sandy Hook was horrendous, but he was absolutely and undeservedly railroaded in that case.)

Posted by: tankdemon at December 12, 2025 02:12 PM (0iZzW)

287 283 Are the Jews responsible for the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs?

No. The Mossad was training the dinosaurs to spy on Iran, so it was a big loss when they all died.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2025 02:10 PM (NztoB)

snort

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 02:12 PM (xcxpd)

288 I saw Hippo Poop open for Mountain at the Fillmore East.

Posted by: Jetto at December 12, 2025 02:12 PM (HA9nr)

289 "The Jews didn't kill the dinosaurs, an asteroid did
Asteroid, Hebroid what's the difference"

Are there any Jewish joke books, a la 1000 Polish jokes with 1000 Italian jokes on the opposite page? You read it by flipping it over etc. We had one in my Polish household growing up. Jew on one side, muslim on the other could be my ticket out. Or fatwa.

Posted by: connected and litigious at December 12, 2025 02:12 PM (cS1cw)

290 How strange, no Burt or Its Go Time Donald in this topic?

I don't think Burt's paid, just a curmudgeon. IGTD I have doubts about though.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2025 02:12 PM (NztoB)

291
Candace Owens developed a fake social skin suit as she grew to adulthood. She's no more what she appears to be than a hunting decoy or a fishing lure.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 12, 2025 02:12 PM (azNOR)

292 I notice that no JEW dinosaurs were around when that asteroid hit.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 02:12 PM (77rzZ)

293 Candy O is a great album
------

Yes, it really is. And the 2 songs that end side one are Shoo Be Doo and Candy O and they were made to be played consecutively with no pause. They're epic.

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 02:13 PM (TN0g+)

294 I notice that no JEW dinosaurs were around when that asteroid hit.

You know how hard it is to circumsize a T-Rex?

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2025 02:14 PM (NztoB)

295 I probably shouldn't even bring it up, but it's an observation that may or may not explain why Owens feels emboldened to defame her in such a way.
Posted by: Frasier Crane


It really has nothing to do with how Mrs. Kirk acts.

When a vengeful woman has decided you must be destroyed - as it appears Owens has decided Erika Kirk must be destroyed - she will use anything and everything against you.

Since she's not publicly breaking down in tears, the attack line is "She's in on it and not mourning at all"
If she were publicly breaking down in tears the attack line would be any thing from "She's crying from guilt" to "she's faking it for sympathy" to "She too emotionally unstable to lead TPUSA".

Literally any stick is good enough to beat the target with, for a vengeful woman.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 12, 2025 02:14 PM (a+4eV)

296 "You know how hard it is to circumsize a T-Rex?"

See

Posted by: connected and litigious at December 12, 2025 02:14 PM (cS1cw)

297 I'm going to go out on a limb here and say I don't think that's really Ace posting #171 "It's time to...."

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at December 12, 2025 02:06 PM (QGaXH)


Nope! It's him. The IP address resolves to Endor.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 12, 2025 02:15 PM (n9ltV)

298 >>Candy O is a great album


It's not quite the worst Cars LP...but it is close.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2025 02:15 PM (IaZ7c)

299 246 Daily Mall-
Brigitte Macron Sparks Backlash For Slamming Feminist Protesters As ‘Stupid Bitches’
Posted by: banana Dream at December 12, 2025 02:02 PM (3uBP9)

Exactly what you'd expect a man to say. -- CandyO
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 12, 2025 02:04 PM (ExV1e)
********
Candace wants to be Brigitte's gynecologist.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 12, 2025 02:15 PM (NpAcC)

300 Are there any Jewish joke books, a la 1000 Polish jokes with 1000 Italian jokes on the opposite page? You read it by flipping it over etc. We had one in my Polish household growing up. Jew on one side, muslim on the other could be my ticket out. Or fatwa.
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When I was in elementary school I had a book "1001 Pickle Jokes" and my sister and I thought it was the funniest book ever written.

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 02:15 PM (TN0g+)

301 Serious queOwen's?

Why TF should I care about Candace Owens?

Anybody who follows her BS is beyond help and will not be persuaded otherwise.

Give this chick a rest.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at December 12, 2025 02:15 PM (ItWcy)

302
Posted by: Orson at December 12, 2025 01:58 PM (dIske)

===============

I agree that he's giddy over all the support he's gotten, which shows you how delusional he is right there. He might actually mistake large numbers of lunatics for the 12 jurors who will make the decision that counts.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 02:15 PM (1N/bM)

303 Candy O is a great album


It's not quite the worst Cars LP...but it is close.
Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2025 02:15 PM (IaZ7c)
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Dat album cover doh ....

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 02:16 PM (iFTx/)

304 The first two Cars albums are great.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2025 02:16 PM (D+mpw)

305 Some fkin judge let off a 2 time rapist off with parole, 1 was a teenager and was beaten severely.

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 02:16 PM (Ia/+0)

306 Hippo poop? You have got to start working on your sleep hygiene.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 12, 2025 02:10 PM


That was kind of oddly specific.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 02:17 PM (kgE5c)

307 >>Dat album cover doh ....


Oh, hell yeah. Cover Art is fantastic.

But it is actually my least favorite Cars LP.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2025 02:17 PM (IaZ7c)

308 "...men in maroon shirts, the US military,..."

She's pretty close to saying Texas A&M did it.

Posted by: Bert G at December 12, 2025 02:18 PM (VARTN)

309
I was surprised when Ol' Megs went nuts.

I suppose that I shouldn't have been, but I was.


Everyone everywhere is publicly revealing their true selves.

It's like some kind of SF end of the world scenario.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2025 02:18 PM (iJfKG)

310 I'm on Team Candy-O.

Dangerous Type, Double Life, Night Spots, that great Shoo-be-Doo/Candy-O side 1 closer. The debut is great but I probably like Candy-O a little bit more.

Posted by: Delurker at December 12, 2025 02:18 PM (xNHSX)

311 Along with the work of ballisticians, terminal effect experts perform tests of bullet designs on representative targets made of ballistic gelatin covered with animal hide, human clothing, etc., as needed. Bones, real or artificial, including spinal columns and skulls, will be included in or outside the ballistic gel. I do not know if animal carcasses are still used for such tests. They used to be the standard terminal effects targets.
Posted by: Gref
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Every hunter in the field does testing by experience as well. Live animal testing and using autopsy results from humans being shot is a pretty morbid subject involving close up pictures of damage, a knowledge of ballistics, and also of biology.

Way back in 1904, the infamous Thompson–LaGarde Tests used cattle in 1904 and some human cadavers for such testing. And we have used goats, pigs, etc. for trauma testing and training for battlefield meds for a long while.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 02:18 PM (WDjG6)

312 When I was in elementary school I had a book "1001 Pickle Jokes" and my sister and I thought it was the funniest book ever written.
Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 02:15 PM


Hmm...I wonder if I still have "101 Uses for a Dead Cat" somewhere.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 02:19 PM (kgE5c)

313 >>>199 Ace you swore off at-ease? Hmmm

I swore off using the Lord's name as an expletive, but the post that "Erika Kirk just doesn't seem to be as smooth a public speaker as the attention whore Candace Owens, so I trust Candace" posts made me say the name as a profanity.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 02:19 PM (1wjle)

314
Assigning a pretty young blonde woman to be an assistant to the football team feels like an unforced error on the university's part, but yes, the coach is also a piece of work.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 12

Wait -did you mean this? So a married man, a father, cannot be trusted to adhere to his vows? Executive Assistants from heretofore shall only be ugly girls? No. This guy stepped out on his wife. He, and only he, is to blame for that.

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 02:20 PM (ZdaMQ)

315 Here is link to guy explaining how Candice got her start with an anti-conservative website and help from NAACP

https://x.com/KeithWoodsYT/
status/1997694357567062306

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 12, 2025 02:20 PM (uxVjF)

316 I don't think I can ever totally abandon expletives !

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 02:20 PM (g47mK)

317 I agree that he's giddy over all the support he's gotten, which shows you how delusional he is right there. He might actually mistake large numbers of lunatics for the 12 jurors who will make the decision that counts.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Same asshole type like Luigi Mangione enjoying the limelight as the twisted narcissistic assholes that they are. Simply another indicator that a lot of people calling themselves Americans are not inside. BAMN lets them off the hook in their holy church of leftism.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 02:20 PM (WDjG6)

318 Hippo poop? You have got to start working on your sleep hygiene.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 12, 2025 02:10 PM

That was kind of oddly specific.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 02:17 PM (kgE5c)


Humor 101: It's the absurdity of of the specific detail that makes the joke funny.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2025 02:20 PM (iJfKG)

319 Everyone everywhere is publicly revealing their true selves.

It's like some kind of SF end of the world scenario.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2025 02:18 PM (iJfKG)

That's' Trump's Superpower. The power of unmasking.

In his presence, everyone near him feels irresistibly compelled to show their true face.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 02:21 PM (uWKK8)

320 There are 1001 pickle jokes, *and* they're all clean enough for elementary school students?

Posted by: Delurker at December 12, 2025 02:21 PM (xNHSX)

321 Thanks for the bullet info, I hadn't heard any updates in a while. Not really following this closely.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 02:21 PM (xcxpd)

322 I swore off using the Lord's name as an expletive
Posted by: ace

That's good, Ace, thank you. I try not to use it that way, too, but sometimes old habits die hard.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 02:21 PM (77rzZ)

323
Via Insty:
David M. McIntosh

@DavidMMcintosh
A former TSA Agent blows the whistle on what she saw:

Somalian immigrants flying out of Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport carrying suitcases stuffed with millions of dollars and passports.

The level of fraud goes deeper and deeper.

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 02:21 PM (TN0g+)

324 I expect Candace mistakes viewership for community. She says outrageous things because she thinks people love her for it. She is wrong, of course. I suspect most of her viewers watch the same way people watch a train wreck.

She substituted the anonymous public at arm's length for real human interaction. Of course, it isn't as satisfying, so she ups the ante every chance she gets.

She really needs a dose of reality and probably years of therapy, and some good drugs.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 12, 2025 02:22 PM (6Bc88)

325 I swore off using the Lord's name as an expletive, but the post that "Erika Kirk just doesn't seem to be as smooth a public speaker as the attention whore Candace Owens, so I trust Candace" posts made me say the name as a profanity.
Posted by: ace
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I think that sort of thing does warrant smiting and damning. Says well for you that you are not smiting someone casually.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 02:22 PM (WDjG6)

326 If Robinson's lawyer is batting ger eyelashes at him she's an idiot. He likes cock
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2025 01:46 PM (D+mpw)

Correction: He likes FURRY cock.

Please make a note of it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

And in NYC, Luigi Mangione is actually posing for the cameras inside the courtroom making all the girls swoon as they just love assassins and think that he should walk free

Posted by: Cheri at December 12, 2025 02:22 PM (oiNtH)

327 You can use alternatives ! Like..Frack ! A klassik!

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2025 02:22 PM (g47mK)

328 I swore off using the Lord's name as an expletive
Posted by: ace

That's good, Ace, thank you. I try not to use it that way, too, but sometimes old habits die hard.
----

The *best* version of me doesn't cuss, or make derisive references to Obama's sexual preferences. Sometimes I slip.

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 02:23 PM (TN0g+)

329 Wait -did you mean this? So a married man, a father, cannot be trusted to adhere to his vows? Executive Assistants from heretofore shall only be ugly girls? No. This guy stepped out on his wife. He, and only he, is to blame for that.
Posted by: Piper at December

He's a massive POS. He was DMing an OF "model" at halftime of the scUM/Suckeyes game.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 02:23 PM (MGB5H)

330 I watched the Tucker clip just now. His point was don't trust the FBI. He's preaching to the choir as far as I'm concerned. Patel and Bongino run the show but it's a big organization once proudly part of the deep state and a lot of people from the Obama/Biden regime are still there. I hope this doesn't make you think I'm a homo grifter who has unclean relationships with Nick Fuentes and Keith Olbermann because I definitely don't.

Posted by: Jerry Carroll at December 12, 2025 02:23 PM (RRQTN)

331 324 I expect Candace mistakes viewership for community. She says outrageous things because she thinks people love her for it. She is wrong, of course. I suspect most of her viewers watch the same way people watch a train wreck.

She substituted the anonymous public at arm's length for real human interaction. Of course, it isn't as satisfying, so she ups the ante every chance she gets.

She really needs a dose of reality and probably years of therapy, and some good drugs.
Posted by: tcn in AK at December 12, 2025 02:22 PM (6Bc8

I would say it's more like watching an angry chimpanzee flinging it's own poo.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 02:23 PM (uWKK8)

332 There are 1001 pickle jokes, *and* they're all clean enough for elementary school students?
Posted by: Delurker at December 12, 2025 02:21 PM


Point of order...he only said he had it in elementary school, not that it was suitable for him to have.

I can't speak to the size of the universe of pickle jokes.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 02:23 PM (kgE5c)

333 >>And in NYC, Luigi Mangione is actually posing for the cameras inside the courtroom making all the girls swoon as they just love assassins and think that he should walk free


They all think they can fix his broken dick.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2025 02:23 PM (IaZ7c)

334 Wait -did you mean this? So a married man, a father, cannot be trusted to adhere to his vows? Executive Assistants from heretofore shall only be ugly girls? No. This guy stepped out on his wife. He, and only he, is to blame for that.
Posted by: Piper at December

He's a massive POS. He was DMing an OF "model" at halftime of the scUM/Suckeyes game.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 02:23 PM (MGB5H)
______

Dude is mentally ill

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 02:24 PM (iFTx/)

335 I'm late to this but I wonder if this shitstain's smirking in court makes Erika maybe re-think her forgiveness of him?


Probably not.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 12, 2025 02:24 PM (F4p3X)

336 new thread, kids

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 12, 2025 02:24 PM (CWTWj)

337 Gay men hating women is nothing new.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2025 02:06 PM (NztoB)

Which is hilarious considering how many women went through the gay best friend thing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at December 12, 2025 02:24 PM (zZu0s)

338 No. Their machine only affects weather, not space.

Does it affect space weather?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at December 12, 2025 02:24 PM (3/kEz)

339 Candy-o, I need you sooo
But this you know.

The follow up line was not on the album track, but was sang in some live performances.

Second best ad lib to Lemmey's
I don't want to live forever
But apparently I am.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at December 12, 2025 02:25 PM (wBaIH)

340 "So get ready for the acquittal. It's coming, and Tyler Robinson knows it."

I don't get how just having supporters like Kirk-haters, Tuqatar Carlton, and Candy O is going to lead to acquittal.

If this guy did it, he should be put away for life, and that life should be very short. See him smirk that off.

Posted by: mindful webworker - in my opinionated opinion at December 12, 2025 02:25 PM (lbDMw)

341 And in NYC, Luigi Mangione is actually posing for the cameras inside the courtroom making all the girls swoon as they just love assassins and think that he should walk free


There is something seriously, seriously wrong going on in this country. Seriously fucking wrong.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at December 12, 2025 02:26 PM (F4p3X)

342 Literally any stick is good enough to beat the target with, for a vengeful woman.
Posted by: FeatherBlade

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I dipped my toe in local politics. I dipped out again just as fast. Turns out to be dominated by peri-and-post-menopausal women whose whole motivation is exacting revenge on each other for perceived slights that have been tallied from antiquity.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 02:26 PM (1Nv0l)

343 I can't speak to the size of the universe of pickle jokes.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

I can't have enough pickle jokes. I never get my dill of them.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 02:26 PM (77rzZ)

344 One round for him, Old Testament style.

Posted by: Eromero at December 12, 2025 02:26 PM (o2ZRX)

345 330 I watched the Tucker clip just now. His point was don't trust the FBI. He's preaching to the choir as far as I'm concerned. "

Well that's Tucker's entire method of attack. He pulls people in with a line he know most agree with, like "Don't Trust the FBI!" Yeah, you didn't have to tell us that, we already know.

But then he follows up with something like "and you know why? Because our entire government is run by THE JEWS!!!!" And with that he tries to get weak minded listeners to slide right along his vicious path with him.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 02:27 PM (uWKK8)

346 "Another of Candace Owens' conspiracy theories is that Erika Kirk is hiding his body by not publicizing the location of his grave. Which she assumes would be immediately vandalized and desecrated by the left, forever."

When Abraham Lincoln's body was brought and buried in Springfield, Illinois, it was originally in a ground-level tomb. But, after threats and conspiracies to dig the body up and desecrate it, a new tomb was built (which I have been in) and his body was buried 16 feet below it and encased in a thick concrete vault to prevent that.

I wouldn't be surprised if the left was not satisfied with desecrating the grave but would actually dig up the body.

Posted by: RonF at December 12, 2025 02:27 PM (NAyZt)

347 Wait -did you mean this? So a married man, a father, cannot be trusted to adhere to his vows? Executive Assistants from heretofore shall only be ugly girls? No. This guy stepped out on his wife. He, and only he, is to blame for that.

I said he's a POS. I also think it's a terrible idea to put women into mens' locker rooms. Zeke Mowatt tried to warn everyone.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 12, 2025 02:27 PM (2ocoG)

348 She really needs a dose of reality and probably years of therapy, and some good drugs.
Posted by: tcn in AK
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I don't think she is ill, she enjoys it as a sociopath. That sort of person is evil, not mentally ill and in particular this response to Erika comes from Candace being fired from any connection with Kirk's Turning Point movement back in 2019 and her slyly intimating about wanting to get back in a position running it after Charlie was murdered.

Encylopedia Brittanica, "Candace Owens resigned from Turning Point USA in 2019 after a controversy over comments she had made about Adolf Hitler."

She's evil and vile.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 02:27 PM (WDjG6)

349 291
Candace Owens developed a fake social skin suit as she grew to adulthood. She's no more what she appears to be than a hunting decoy or a fishing lure.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug
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Spot on.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 02:27 PM (lQBYU)

350 Which is hilarious considering how many women went through the gay best friend thing.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone

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We called them "fag hags" in my day.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 02:27 PM (1Nv0l)

351 This guy stepped out on his wife. He, and only he, is to blame for that.
Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 02:20 PM (ZdaMQ)

Hear hear.

Sick of all these motherfuckers given fifteen figure salaries to do bullshit and then thinking the rules of the world don't apply to them.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2025 02:28 PM (Vq1pX)

352 Finally realized why movie and TV cowboys wear two guns.
New York reload.

Posted by: parrots at December 12, 2025 02:29 PM (Kt19C)

353 This is why I have been so vitriolic about conspiracy theorists and their maniacal belief that anyone pushing back against the conspiracy theory is just further proof of the conspiracy theory being right. Every time I've railed against conspiracy theorists lately, I have been thinking of this ugly Low-IQ grifter whore.

I exactly what someone fronting for Big Lizard would say.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 02:29 PM (Riz8t)

354 244 Are the Jews responsible for the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs?

I'm just asking questions.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 02:03 PM (L/fGl)

Of course not.

Posted by: Noah at December 12, 2025 02:29 PM (6RyaQ)

355 We called them "fag hags" in my day.
Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 02:27 PM (1Nv0l)

The ultimate "I Can Fix Him" challenge.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2025 02:29 PM (Vq1pX)

356 NOOD BLM (not the geography kind)

Posted by: FeatherBlade at December 12, 2025 02:30 PM (a+4eV)

357 This guy stepped out on his wife. He, and only he, is to blame for that.

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 02:20 PM (ZdaMQ)


Bullshit. She was hot and wore short skirts, and was probably a plant from OSU!

It was her fault...not his!

Posted by: UM Fans Everywhere at December 12, 2025 02:30 PM (n9ltV)

358 When Abraham Lincoln's body was brought and buried in Springfield, Illinois, it was originally in a ground-level tomb. But, after threats and conspiracies to dig the body up and desecrate it, a new tomb was built (which I have been in) and his body was buried 16 feet below it and encased in a thick concrete vault to prevent that.
Posted by: RonF
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Actually went as far as doing graverobbing but the group had a Secret Service informant and a trap was laid:

"On the night of the attempt (Election Day evening 1876), law enforcement surrounded the tomb and waited.

The robbers broke in, sawed off the padlock, pried open the marble sarcophagus, and moved the wooden coffin about 15 inches before being interrupted.

An accidental gunshot from a detective’s weapon caused confusion, and the thieves fled the scene before they could fully remove the body.

They escaped out the east gate of the cemetery but were captured in Chicago ten days later."

Brave AI summary.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 02:30 PM (WDjG6)

359 "So get ready for the acquittal. It's coming, and Tyler Robinson knows it."


PLEASE GOD, NO!

Can we add this to the Prayer List?

Posted by: pookysgirl, wrestling Lil Pooky for the keyboard at December 12, 2025 02:31 PM (Wt5PA)

360 This is a pretty good tske down of Candace.
https://tinyurl.com/295dh6e7

Posted by: tankdemon at December 12, 2025 02:34 PM (0iZzW)

361 The shape of the earth. The infield fly rule. Jews.

It doesn't matter what the content or target of the troll is. All that matters is the troll.

Find the Make Angry button. Mash it like it's the only way to open your parachute and you just crossed five hundred feet. Bathe yourself in the fury that gets thrown at you. Cry Victim, and let slip the dogs of Just Asking Questions. Digest the adulation of your supporters.

Repeat until satisfied.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2025 02:34 PM (Vq1pX)

362 I have not listened to Tucker Carlson for years. I never really listened to Candace Owen's except brief clips of her on the internet occasionally . I don't intend to listen to them now. They both appear to be paid off nutcases and anti semetic.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 02:36 PM (PFs9e)

363 like a man who didn’t just destroy a family...
Kinda like Al Capone, showing up in court in The Untouchables.

Posted by: GWB at December 12, 2025 02:37 PM (3h62U)

364 When tallying up all the ways Kirk's widow has been attacked and smeared since his murder, don't forget the fact that she, extraordinarily, forgave the killer at Kirk's memorial ceremony, and the Left's toxic response was to claim she only did so because the killer was a White Male and she's just so gosh-darned racists she couldn't bring herself to stay mad at him.

Posted by: Harrison Bergeron at December 12, 2025 02:37 PM (JuaQi)

365 He's a massive POS. He was DMing an OF "model" at halftime of the scUM/Suckeyes game.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 02:23 PM (MGB5H)

Watching that game, I thought Moore had basically checked out of the game - like he had given up. There was no coaching that he was doing.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 12, 2025 02:49 PM (N39Ws)

366 The nice way to put it, he's a serial fabulist.
Posted by: Ordinary American at December 12, 2025 01:26 PM (VnsnO)

So, the Brian Williams of independent podcasts?

Posted by: GWB at December 12, 2025 02:55 PM (HQI1k)

367 Get this, "shannot," is too strong. I just can't.

Posted by: 80's music fan at December 12, 2025 03:06 PM (YlWIZ)

368 Not to defend Candace or Tucker in any way, but I am REALLY tired of reading/seeing these articles hysterically denouncing them while going to extreme lengths to avoid actually quoting them.

I mean, a 30 second clip of Candace and a 5 minute clip of Tucker while extensively excerpting their critics?

Posted by: MBunge at December 12, 2025 03:08 PM (2tWdQ)

369 "But then he follows up with something like "and you know why? Because our entire government is run by THE JEWS!!!!"

Tucker literally never says ANYTHING like that. I suspect you know he never says anything like that.

Posted by: MBunge at December 12, 2025 03:11 PM (2tWdQ)

370 Bravo, Ace. Agree with all you wrote, and you do it with great words and thoughts.

"Heiress to Swanson Foods" made me laugh. Tucker is so worried about they gheys now it makes me wonder about him! Maybe he's moose limb since he hates Jews and Christians.I spit in his general direction.

Candace is a special brand of insanity. I can't quite put my finger on it except paranoid schizophrenia with a ton of narcissism and borderline personality disorder swimming around.

I liked her, briefly, over a decade ago. Have never listened to her podcast as I ain't got time. Going off the deep end into a shallow pool with no water is on display. "She's too busy" for a full debate, because "her husband says so." Or something bullsharte and stinky. I add coward to all the other adjectives.

I hope Kirk's family sue her to oblivion. So weird to do what she's doing for attention (narcissism).

The fact that she was not asked to their wedding or his funeral is telling, no matter how important to Charlie Kirk she tries to tell herself she was.

She's like an unpinned grenade and I would never want her near me. I hope there is a pill for this, or electroshock therapy. Also...SHAME ON YOU!







Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 12, 2025 03:23 PM (WONhk)

371 That said, the word "Deseret" is translated as honeybee, so if you see Deseret, it is associated with the bee.

Posted by: SimoHayek at December 12, 2025 01:25 PM

Come on now, give me some sugar
Give me some sugar, little Deseret
Don't be afraid, not gonna hurt you
I wouldn't hurt my little Deseret

YouTube: https://bit.ly/4iVC12a

Posted by: Tom Petty at December 12, 2025 03:31 PM (P5BPp)

372 Also! That effin' fairy furry had better not get off for this murder! Premeditated. First degree murder.It is obvious to all but the likes of Candace!

He "thinks" in his furry mind, that he is going to be a martyr for the gay furries. Like Luigi is for whatever he's against and the murder of the CEO.

For starters, you buck-toothed, acne ridden fag, you ain't Luigi (who I find peculiar to look at with his eyebrows wagging).

Second of all, you can ponce into court like you just know you are all that.

I have news for you: You are an ugly, scrawny "man." Who, from what I read, always thought you were the smartest in the room. I have known people like you and this is what your prop is; as generally they are nothing to look at (and you sure are not).

You somehow blew a free ride to a university after one semester. This shows immatuity and your general fagginess and could not fit in.Did you miss your mommy?

You are pathetic. What is your favorite costume for ghey sex is the only question I'd ask you.

I hope you are found guilty for premeditated murder one and are thrown into gen pop to get your martyred reward.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 12, 2025 03:33 PM (WONhk)

373 "KILLING ME WON'T BRING BACK YOUR GODDAMN HONEY!"

"NOT THE BEES! NOT THE BEES! AAHHH! THEY'RE IN MY EYES! MY EYES! AAHHH! AAGH!"

YouTube: https://bit.ly/48PbAGv

Posted by: Nick Cage at December 12, 2025 03:39 PM (P5BPp)

374 Alex Jones, like Trump in the "bank fraud" case, didn't even get a trial. The entire court proceeding was the penalty phase. The court was not trying to determine if he had done anything wrong, but to figure out how much the the thing the judge had already decided he was guilty if was going to cost him. (BTW, I think Jones is an asshole and is best left ignored, and what he said about Sandy Hook was horrendous, but he was absolutely and undeservedly railroaded in that case.)

Posted by: tankdemon at December 12, 2025 02:12 PM (0iZzW)

Undeservedly is doing some heavy lifting there. The judge found him liable because he failed to respond to discovery and court orders, iirc.

The monetary award was obscene, sure, but he absolutely deserved to have to pay out some damages for defaming people.

Posted by: Sjg at December 12, 2025 03:43 PM (aqZN1)

375 I thought I had vented enough but apparently not.

Candace acts like a woman scorned by the love of her life. Let's imagine for a moment that Candace has always been jealous of Erika and blames her for being ousted as part of Kirk's inner circle. Not getting an invitation to their wedding (throws temper tantrum).

Loses job (throws hissy fits & eyeballs pop). Has babies & that is not enough for her. She was rejected, her ego! She will have revenge!

Uses Kirk's death to make up fairy tales about their "friendship." Marries some guy three years before Kirk, when he started dating Erika.No invitation.

There is a reason she was not invited to their wedding in 2021. She left Turning Point in 2019. Some say due to anti-semitism, but I don't know. Was fired from Daily Wire a year ago due to anti-semitism...so that seems to be a pattern with this hysterical beetch on wheels.

For her, in 2025, to even THINK she should be part of Kirk's funeral is insane, as is she. Fairytale thinking. Morphing truth into a narrative she alone likes. Her ego boost.

She must be a ton of fun to live with. Her husband should be careful as she can turn on a dime. I'd sleep with a weapon under my pillow.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 12, 2025 04:05 PM (WONhk)

376 PS - Not sure you're all following the U of Mich head coach charges, but it seems to be...

Step 1 - Have an affair with your hottie underling

AKA, not a bright guy


Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2025 01:56 PM

Hottie underling is a fellow Purdue grad.

Purdue's football program is gawd-awful and has gotten demolished by UM for at least the last 3+ decades.

So great job by the Boilermaker grad taking down the UM program from within. Closest Purdue will ever get to a win against the Wolverines.

Posted by: Nick Cage at December 12, 2025 04:11 PM (P5BPp)

377 Annnd, we're back

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 12, 2025 04:12 PM (P5BPp)

378 What was the remark that Tucker made at Charlie's memorial service that was supposedly a swipe at the Jews.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 01:56 PM

“Ultimately [Kirk] was a Christian evangelist, and it actually reminds me of my favorite story ever. So it’s about 2,000 years ago in Jerusalem, and Jesus shows up and he starts talking about the people in power, and he starts doing the worst thing that you can do, which is telling the truth about people, and they hate it, and they just go bonkers. They hate it, and they become obsessed with making him stop: ‘This guy’s got to stop talking. We’ve got to shut this guy up.’ And I can just sort of picture the scene in a lamp-lit room with a bunch of guys sitting around eating hummus, thinking about — what do we do about this guy telling the truth about us? We must make him stop talking! And there’s always one guy with a bright idea, and I can just hear him say, ‘I’ve got an idea. Why don’t we just kill him? That’ll shut him up, that’ll fix the problem.’ It doesn’t work that way. It doesn’t work that way.”

Grok full answer: https://bit.ly/3KUQ5MG

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 12, 2025 04:16 PM (P5BPp)

379 ignoring isn't working. Her stupid videos -- she's the world's first Fake Crime podcaster -- get 40 million views.

It's time to take this cunt out.

Posted by: ace

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wtf?? The less sense she makes, the more views she gets. Her viewership must have morphed over to some bizarre bloc of people wandering in our midst with a single deformed finger or something.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 01:59 PM

Yep. That's why she can't be "taken out". The problem is not Candace Owens. The problem is American culture is rotten.

Owens is a symptom, not the disease. She would not be popular if the American culture were not so completely rotten to make people like her popular and rich.

"Take her out" and all that will happen is some other lunatic will become popular with the rotten American culture.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 12, 2025 04:28 PM (P5BPp)

380 "The acquittal proves it was Israel and Egyptian Planes who killed Charlie Kirk!"

It sure as Hell wasn't a .30-06 bullet.

Posted by: Jerome at December 12, 2025 04:41 PM (zIg45)

381 I've considered Owens a grifter for years, and it's been surprising that Carlson and Kelly, whom I actually respect, have defended her so much. However, I equally despise the Jewish blogging fraternity, who have piled on slur after slur against these people, and all because the Jewish Right supports the State of Israel over the interests of the United States.

Owens should be given a forum to make her case and be scrutinized. Hopefully Carlson or Kelly themselves will do it. And if her claims don't hold up, she should be shunned, just as Alex Jones was. Sunlight is a great disinfectant.

Posted by: Exiled2Texas at December 12, 2025 05:12 PM (YINx+)

382 If...and probably...a certain # of people are "hate watching," or simply can't turn away from a car crash...theystill give her clicks which equal $$$. That's all she cares about along with keeping her name and weird face in the news. Attention seeking narcissist.A product of social media and hate, her words are hateful as is her entire shtick

I love to read a reddit site called Saint Meghyn Markle. Because they archive UK DM stories about her highness, the Duchass of Sucksex. She gets no clicks this way and I can snicker at the snark.

I hope someone dreams up an archive site for the people who are curious about what she spews next. That way she won't profit from her lies and slander, made up in her schizo mind.

Granted, I can't stand her, but I'd have to be hog tied with toothpicks opening my eyes to watch her podcast. And gagged to keep me from lalalala or humming against her lying voice. I don't watch her at all, fearing she's somehow making a buck from me. I also think she's evil.

Her eyes look wonky evil. I do not partake in evil and pray against it. I guess I will include her name in my prayers against esslam, trans, and evil in general. The list gets longer every day.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at December 12, 2025 06:13 PM (WONhk)

383 Let me spell it out for y’all caught up in the weeds. Tucker, Candace, et al may have been marginal at best before their recent descent into apparent insanity. In reality, they are a minor part of a huge psyop to extinguish Trump mania and conservative power by fracturing and delegitimization. I would suspect they have been all threatened with physical as well as economic destruction if they do not keep pushing more and more weird stuff. They are all but blinking SOS as they deliver the nonsense online. The best we can do is totally ignore them rather than waste time trying to deconstruct their nonsense.

Posted by: epador at December 12, 2025 06:35 PM (TRnzq)

384 All respect to Erika Kirk.

But Tyler Robinson is not the triggerman.

He just isn't. He's involved, but he did not pull the trigger that killed Charlie.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at December 12, 2025 09:57 PM (C0+hl)

385 Tucka, Candace... This is all to fracture MAGA vs. the Dragoon Bush republicans and their chicanery of 20 year wars, et al.

Where is Kirk's bullet? Why was the crime scene immediately contaminated. I haven't seen Robinson's DNA at the crime scene and I have serious questions about government employee ethics at this point. Lay out the evidence for all to see, but they aren't. Kinda like JFK.

Posted by: Danimal28 at December 13, 2025 08:27 PM (iXm17)

Gavin Newsom Admits That California Pays for Free Healthcare for Illegal Aliens

We already knew this, but Gavin Newsom admits it. As you know, in the propaganda media, no amount of evidence is ever enough to disprove a left-wing talking point. A point is only settled against a leftist if he admits it.

What is even more astounding is Regime Apologist Ezra Klein's reaction to this admission.

Newsom's admission doesn't cause Klein to say, "Well, it turns out Trump wasright when he said Democrat states pay for health care for illegals."

No, it causes him to re-assert that Trump "lies" about this, followed by praising Newsom for having the guts to make Trump's "lies" a reality.


If it's true... how is Trump "lying," Ezra?


As Charlie Cooke says: He did the meme.

It's just totally a "lie" that all Democrats plan to provide free health care to illegals.

For the left, the concept of lying is not dependent on whether or not someone tells the truth. It's not based on actions. It's based on status -- if you're an enemy of the left, you're a "liar" even when you're telling the truth. The truths you say "mislead" the public away from a Greater Truth -- race-based socialism managed by carefully-selected leftwing credentialed priests -- and are therefore "lies," in a deeper sense.

Posted by: Ace at 12:13 PM




Comments

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1 Newsome, what a maroon

Posted by: Zeera , Damn Right I voted for all of this! at December 12, 2025 12:14 PM (jvxGE)

2 Is it really a lie though?

Posted by: Costanza at December 12, 2025 12:14 PM (3uBP9)

3 "Free"

Posted by: Bobby Hugbox at December 12, 2025 12:15 PM (C24tU)

4 SPONGE!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 12:15 PM (xcxpd)

5 If I say I'm illegal can I get it free too?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 12:15 PM (ynpvh)

6 Also Purge California.

The whole West Coast frankly.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 12:15 PM (xcxpd)

7 Costanza nooded, good man

Posted by: Zeera , Damn Right I voted for all of this! at December 12, 2025 12:16 PM (jvxGE)

8 Is it really a lie though?
Posted by: Costanza at December 12, 2025 12:14 PM (3uBP9)
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It's not a lie if YOU believe it.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 12:17 PM (RnixX)

9 He does seem to be facing some...mental challenges.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 12:17 PM (Riz8t)

10
A lie can just be 'My Truth'.

Posted by: Auspex at December 12, 2025 12:17 PM (Y8DZL)

11 it's that heat map, where liberals have the warmest feelings for the most distant (foreign) people.

it's super weird. I guess it's a manifestation of self-hatred? I dunno honestly.

but THAT is another important meme. it's something to always keep in mind.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 12, 2025 12:18 PM (emBoF)

12 It's not a lie if you're a Democrat.

Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2025 12:18 PM (UnA8+)

13
Posted by: Zeera , Damn Right I voted for all of this!

So you do live in California!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 12, 2025 12:18 PM (ZaZ9u)

14 A lie can just be 'My Truth'.

A load of unbridled horses*** >>> My truth

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 12:18 PM (Riz8t)

15 Gavin Gruesome sounds hoarse and strung out. Too many drugs? He'll be sounding like RFKJ in a few years.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 12:18 PM (iFTx/)

16 It must be exhausting for one's brain do these mental jumping jacks every day to justify to yourself that you're always right and that everyone else is "lying".

Posted by: hobbitopoly at December 12, 2025 12:19 PM (k9OZB)

17
btw, I created that "meme" a very long time ago here.

I called it the Democrats Argument Template and it originally went thusly:

1. It never happened.
2. Even if it did happen, so what?
3. Republicans do it, too.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 12, 2025 12:19 PM (v6HoO)

18 I almost didn’t show up for this thread because the call was “nood Newsom” mouth vomit….. but here I am anyway playing through the pain. This admission by Hairgel is delightful

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 12, 2025 12:19 PM (YobFY)

19 I'm feeling a little purgey.

Posted by: thug dolphin at December 12, 2025 12:19 PM (EyfuW)

20 Morning.

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 12:19 PM (1Yy3c)

21 I love how Newsome says "I did that". No, you greasy buttstain, the taxpayers did that.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 12:19 PM (Riz8t)

22 Before we wrap up talking about Buckley, willowed comment:

The William F Buckley vs Gore Vidal debate proves that leftists have been calling the right Nazis forever. Nothing new under the sun.

Buckley was ruled by the media to have lost the debate when he called Vidal a Fag. But Vidal IMO had already sunk too low when he called Buckley a Nazi. Buckley flew into a rage, and while he should have kept his cool I totally understand it.

The best revenge for the right, is that gore Vidal has faded into utter irrelevancy. At one point it was required to have his books on your self if you were a proper lefty. But no one cares about him anymore.

Posted by: LizLem at December 12, 2025 12:20 PM (gWBY1)

23 Ezra Klein?

Mr. "The Constitution is like over a hundred years old"? That Ezra Klein?

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 12:20 PM (1Yy3c)

24 Michael Malice likes to say the media is factual, but not truthful. When applied to some things, that is accurate.

Then there are things that are neither factual, nor truthful.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at December 12, 2025 12:20 PM (MZ+PY)

25 Good luck getting elected on that message. The American people spend a fortune on their health care and illegals getting it free boils their blood.

Posted by: Leupold at December 12, 2025 12:20 PM (eIzlH)

26 Posted by: Zeera , Damn Right I voted for all of this!

So you do live in California!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

Worse; I'm fleeing Tampon Tim

Posted by: Zeera , Damn Right I voted for all of this! at December 12, 2025 12:20 PM (jvxGE)

27 Democrats lie. They've done so ever since Bill Clinton "moderated" the party by lying about their intentions. I'm open to arguments about the party being misguided but well-intentioned through the 1980s, but since then the Clintonian rot has been penetrated by the Obama fungus which is putrefying after Biden shat on it.

Posted by: The Lower Depths at December 12, 2025 12:21 PM (Dg7ng)

28 I pray the AWFL's don't come out in droves and elect Newsom to become POTUS.

The way things are going this just might happen.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 12, 2025 12:22 PM (NpAcC)

29 the Clintonian rot has been penetrated by the Obama fungus which is putrefying after Biden shat on it.

You really need to find a way to work corruption and moldering into that sentence.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 12:23 PM (Riz8t)

30 Doublethink (TM)

Orwell was apparently making a prophecy, not a warning.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at December 12, 2025 12:23 PM (cuae1)

31 Hairsplitting is a typical tactic. Trump lied. He said 20 million illegals came in the last four years. It's only 17 million.
Trump lied. The Haitians aren't eating the cats and dogs, just the geese and the ducks at the park.

Posted by: Eddie Baby at December 12, 2025 12:23 PM (s19xO)

32
5 cents spent on a noncitizen is 5 cents not spent on a needy American.

Of course the dude heading the San Francisco Homeless department has a fat salary and bennies and a secratery with a good salary and bennies, then the rank an file have salaries and bennies. Is it a wonder why the problem exisits?

Posted by: connected and litigious at December 12, 2025 12:23 PM (cS1cw)

33 The best revenge for the right, is that gore Vidal has faded into utter irrelevancy. At one point it was required to have his books on your self if you were a proper lefty. But no one cares about him anymore.
Posted by: LizLem at December 12, 2025 12:20 PM (gWBY1)

I’ve always thought Buckley was fantastic in that moment:
Now listen, you queer. Stop calling me a crypto-Nazi, or I’ll sock you in the goddamn face and you’ll stay plastered.

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 12, 2025 12:23 PM (YobFY)

34 Trump LIES!!!

Name one.

He said Democrats give your taxes to illegals.

But that's what they do, here are some examples.

Sure, but Trump didn't know that.

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 12:23 PM (/+FOE)

35 Getting your healthcare paid for at the ER by the government is not the same as getting your healthcare paid for by the government not at the ER.

See the difference?

Posted by: huerfano at December 12, 2025 12:23 PM (98kQX)

36 It's just totally a "lie" that all Democrats plan to provide free health care to illegals.

Bcuz it's still $20, same as in town.

Posted by: parrots at December 12, 2025 12:24 PM (Vjo66)

37 28 I pray the AWFL's don't come out in droves and elect Newsom to become POTUS.

The way things are going this just might happen.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 12, 2025 12:22 PM (NpAcC)

It's incredibly stupid, but they'll vote for him for just his hair alone.

Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2025 12:24 PM (UnA8+)

38
lolololol

Just recently that Smiling Moron "mayor" of Los Angeles was on Plastic Face's dumb podcast and laughed about how everyone is "lying" about how "violent" the city is.

Meanwhile, children in Los Angeles are literally taking entire main streets and looting stores.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 12, 2025 12:24 PM (v6HoO)

39 The lie begins with the term “undocumented immigrant”.

They are not immigrants. They are illegal aliens.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 12:24 PM (9iyS+)

40 I know he's going to run in 2028, but I don't see how is own appalling record won't sink him in the primary. The palisades fire alone should disqualify him. He and his wife opened an NGO to suck up the relief money, none of it going to the victims. They literally stole it.

But the media will carry his water, as they always do. And the lefty Karens that needo be sexually attracted to a nominee to vote for him will love his American Psycho hairgel and look.

Posted by: LizLem at December 12, 2025 12:24 PM (gWBY1)

41 16 It must be exhausting for one's brain do these mental jumping jacks every day to justify to yourself that you're always right and that everyone else is "lying".
Posted by: hobbitopoly at December 12, 2025 12:19 PM (k9OZB)

Not if you're a sociopath. Easy peasy.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at December 12, 2025 12:25 PM (MZ+PY)

42 28 I pray the AWFL's don't come out in droves and elect Newsom to become POTUS.

The way things are going this just might happen.
-------------------------
Sure, if there's 25% turnout in the next election.

A reason why I aggressively dislike doomerism about elections is that it's quite correctible. Even if a local GOP is run by morons, there are quite a lot of PACs that do GOTV efforts now. We could all join or support one to make sure voters actually vote. That's the problem we've been having with these off-year special elections this year - ultra low turnout that makes the AWFLs seem like they are replicating when they are a shrinking demographic almost by definition.

Posted by: The Lower Depths at December 12, 2025 12:25 PM (Dg7ng)

43 Thanks, I guess...

@Polymarket 15m
BREAKING: FDA adding "black box" warning on COVID-19 vaccine, warning of serious side effects including death.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 12, 2025 12:25 PM (mlg/3)

44 It’s against federal law to provide those benefits to illegal aliens. In their lawsuit against the federal government states like California actually made the argument they were not knowingly in violation of federal law for those benefits.

Dummy Newsom just blew up his states legal argument.

Posted by: Vengeance at December 12, 2025 12:25 PM (klxjG)

45
What I don't Like is the stupid Olympics in L.A. next year.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 12, 2025 12:25 PM (v6HoO)

46 Every time an illegal goes to the ER, we pay for his health care. Not just in California but anywhere.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 12:26 PM (9iyS+)

47 What I don't Like is the stupid Olympics in L.A. next year.

Posted by: Soothsayer


Good news. It's not until 2028.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 12, 2025 12:26 PM (mlg/3)

48 "If it's true... how is Trump "lying," Ezra?"

==

Communism is a cult.

Posted by: mrp at December 12, 2025 12:26 PM (rj6Yv)

49 the Clintonian rot has been penetrated by the Obama fungus which is putrefying after Biden shat on it.

cut, jib, newsletter?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 12, 2025 12:27 PM (emBoF)

50 Olympics is still a thing?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 12:27 PM (9iyS+)

51 28 I pray the AWFL's don't come out in droves and elect Newsom to become POTUS.

The way things are going this just might happen.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 12, 2025 12:22 PM (NpAcC)

It's incredibly stupid, but they'll vote for him for just his hair alone.
Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2025 12:24 PM (UnA8+)

IMHO I don’t think Hairgel has a snowball’s chance in hell of being elected prez. He don’t play outside CA… and compare him to Kamala… he’s not getting nearly as many black female votes as she did. The all time king of vote getters in that demographic: 2020 Biden… which I don’t think that level of fraud can ever happen again unless they gin up another deadly pandemic

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 12, 2025 12:27 PM (YobFY)

52 What I don't Like is the stupid Olympics in L.A. next year.
Posted by: Soothsayer

What I don't like are the stupid Olympics. Anywhere.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 12:27 PM (77rzZ)

53 The smash and grabs for the Olymipcs will be a site to behold. I fear the backlash.

Posted by: connected and litigious at December 12, 2025 12:27 PM (cS1cw)

54 I believe that Newsom's whole draw is that he is very obviously loathsome. Loathsome Newsom, that works really well actually.

But the way it works is the left truly hates Trump. Even though Trump was a bit lefty. A lefty of a few decades ago, that degree of lefty, mostly on the social liberal side. But because they hate that he now stands in their way, and hate that he is sometimes, not often, but on occasion successful in opposing them they posses an existential hatred of the man.

And like any cargo cult in that situation they have brought forward their "Trump" a person who's only feature is they know he is really truly loathsome as they loath Trump. That's it entirely

Posted by: banana Dream at December 12, 2025 12:27 PM (3uBP9)

55 They can't wait to "fail" at the border again the minute they get back into power.

Posted by: Max Power at December 12, 2025 12:28 PM (SwyyQ)

56 "Undocumented" ... so they have no documents to show they are American. They must go home to get their "free health care" (to they place where they ARE documented as citizens).

Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2025 12:29 PM (vbXSk)

57 Buckley was ruled by the media to have lost the debate when he called Vidal a Fag. But Vidal IMO had already sunk too low when he called Buckley a Nazi. Buckley flew into a rage, and while he should have kept his cool I totally understand it.

The best revenge for the right, is that gore Vidal has faded into utter irrelevancy. At one point it was required to have his books on your self if you were a proper lefty. But no one cares about him anymore.
Posted by: LizLem at December 12, 2025 12:20 PM (gWBY1)

"Call me a crypto-Nazi again, you queer, and I'll sock you in the goddamn face and you'll stay plastered."

Posted by: More or less. Great line. at December 12, 2025 12:29 PM (TbWk/)

58 Said Arabia wants to host the Olympics. Lol

Gonna be lit when the LGBTQ+++++++ athletes show up. 🤣

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 12:29 PM (9iyS+)

59 If I illegally entered Canada I would get free health care. "Bill, have you ever heard of Dr. Kavorkian? Well, we have a deal for you."

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 12, 2025 12:29 PM (gm9Sb)

60 43 Thanks, I guess...

@Polymarket 15m
BREAKING: FDA adding "black box" warning on COVID-19 vaccine, warning of serious side effects including death.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 12, 2025 12:25 PM (mlg/3)

Just in the nick of time, eh Carmine?

Posted by: John McClane, Die Hard 2 at December 12, 2025 12:30 PM (TbWk/)

61 I know he's going to run in 2028, but I don't see how is own appalling record won't sink him in the primary. The palisades fire alone should disqualify him.

Ah, I think I see the problem. You're thinking that most voters will pay at least minimal attention to actual facts and not just their feels.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 12, 2025 12:30 PM (3nLb4)

62 Siri says 14 states plus D.C. give healthcare to illegals. Trump must be lying though.

Posted by: waelse1 at December 12, 2025 12:30 PM (lfepB)

63 Even when I was a young impressionable lad, Gore Vidal came across as someone who huffs his own farts. Pompous douchebag lefty. Might have actually been one of the reasons I drifted right, lol.

Posted by: Howard Johnson at December 12, 2025 12:31 PM (3BwY8)

64 58 Said Arabia wants to host the Olympics. Lol

Gonna be lit when the LGBTQ+++++++ athletes show up. 🤣
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

You don't need a pool to do a high-dive.

Posted by: Karl Wallenda at December 12, 2025 12:32 PM (oftw2)

65
The RIGHT Way to frame what newscum admitted is this: Newscum "solves" the health insurance "affordability" issue for illegals by giving them free health care.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 12, 2025 12:32 PM (v6HoO)

66 61 I know he's going to run in 2028, but I don't see how is own appalling record won't sink him in the primary. The palisades fire alone should disqualify him.



Huh? His record is impeccable.
- MSM

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 12:32 PM (9iyS+)

67 Said Arabia wants to host the Olympics. Lol
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

Probably in NEOM, I'm guessing. That big planned city they're building in the northern part of the country.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 12:32 PM (77rzZ)

68 >>If I illegally entered Canada I would get free health care. "Bill, have you ever heard of Dr. Kavorkian? Well, we have a deal for you."

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 12, 2025 12:29 PM

Maybe, if you're white.

Posted by: huerfano at December 12, 2025 12:32 PM (98kQX)

69 IMHO I don’t think Hairgel has a snowball’s chance in hell of being elected prez. He don’t play outside CA… and compare him to Kamala…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

==

The reality is, every election is basically a coin flip.

I do agree he's not their strongest, not by a long shot. I just think CA anything is looked at negatively in the rest of the 49 states. And he is incredibly polarizing and oft putting.

I have Democrat friends in CA and even they loathe him.

If I were a Democrat, I'd find some vanilla Governor that just focused on kitchen table issues.

Posted by: Leupold at December 12, 2025 12:32 PM (eIzlH)

70 truth is whatever advances the cause.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at December 12, 2025 12:32 PM (CWTWj)

71 >>> The smash and grabs for the Olymipcs will be a site to behold. I fear the backlash.
Posted by: connected and litigious at December 12, 2025 12:27 PM (cS1cw)

I look forward to some of the new sports. The 50 yard drive by should be something to behold!

SLC is excited to have the Olympics again. But they unveiled their logo and it's not great. They are emphasizing Utah vs SLC.

Posted by: LizLem at December 12, 2025 12:33 PM (gWBY1)

72 So a lot (all?) of those $ spent on "healthcare" for illegals is federal, right?

Thus, the O-care portion, surely, is being illegally spent, as that abomination of a disaster of an unconstitutional "law" expressly prohibited it.

Which just again raises the question of why Trump's HHS, whose secretary is given unbelievable dictatorial powers under that same law, never uses those powers to strangle/destroy/dismantle that enormous anchor around the country's neck. A question raised by a few in the first term, where again nothing was done.

So has the administration moved to end/block all $ to CA and other states proportional to those funds being illegally spent on illegal aliens? And is HHS gonna do anything else using its enormous discretion under the existing law?

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2025 12:34 PM (U/Byj)

73 One of William F. Buckley's hobbies was small bore pistol shooting, and he was considered very good at it, as in would have been welcome on many teams. Gore got lucky.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 12, 2025 12:34 PM (gm9Sb)

74 Probably in NEOM, I'm guessing. That big planned city they're building in the northern part of the country.
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 12:32 PM (77rzZ)

It’s even more regarded. Neil is hosting the Asian WINTER games. Yes winter games in Saudi Arabia. Cuz why not?

They’re bidding for then 2036 summer games. Not sure which city though.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 12:34 PM (9iyS+)

75 Giving "free" healthcare to illegals is monstrously unpopular. Like 95-5%.

If only The Stupid Party took advantage of such things...

Posted by: Brewingfrog at December 12, 2025 12:35 PM (2A6DC)

76 >>> Thanks, I guess...

@Polymarket 15m
BREAKING: FDA adding "black box" warning on COVID-19 vaccine, warning of serious side effects including death.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 12, 2025 12:25 PM (mlg/3)


Only a matter of time, some changes in legal protection afforded to a few companies here and there before we start getting, tv, radio, internet, highway bulletin, ads for, "Were you effected by the side effects of COVID-19 vaccines? Call ....." I bet there is a lot of rearranging, retiring going on in pharm boards as the high ups try to limit their squeak hole's degree of liability.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 12, 2025 12:35 PM (3uBP9)

77 Interrogator: Out there it doesn't matter what time it is; in here, it's lunchtime if you and I decide that it is. The truth is sometimes what you believe it to be, and other times what you decide it to be. My task is to make you decide to believe differently, and when that happens the world will remake itself before your very eyes.
-----
This is what the Left has in mind for ALL of us.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 12:36 PM (RnixX)

78 IMHO I don’t think Hairgel has a snowball’s chance in hell of being elected prez. He don’t play outside CA… and compare him to Kamala…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt


With enough money from trans-fascists, electability is no longer an issue. It's a matter of vote-by-mail, ballot harvesting, and assorted hacking that matters. The Left doesn't care anymore about the candidate because their evil machines are the thing that wins elections now.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 12, 2025 12:36 PM (mlg/3)

79 Neom not Neil.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 12:36 PM (9iyS+)

80 Said Arabia wants to host the Olympics. Lol
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

Pretty much like the real Olympics except instead of shot put they have homo put and it's off rooftops.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 12:36 PM (L/fGl)

81 If I illegally entered Canada I would get free health care. "Bill, have you ever heard of Dr. Kavorkian? Well, we have a deal for you."
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 12, 2025 12:29 PM (gm9Sb)

No, you probably would get it. And you'd jump to the head of the line as a disadvantaged refugee.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 12:36 PM (npFr7)

82 >>> Said Arabia wants to host the Olympics. Lol
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

Apparently the World Cup is in DC this year. It was fluffed up to the most pride friendly World Cup ever. Yaaaaas Kween! Snaps!

Guess who the finalists are? Two middle eastern counties where being gay is illegal. You can't make this up.

Posted by: LizLem at December 12, 2025 12:37 PM (gWBY1)

83 Newsom only said this because he knows an audit in healthcare and SNAP is imminent. Getting caught is a weaker position than admitting it out front regardless of what was said in the past.

Posted by: Orson at December 12, 2025 12:38 PM (dIske)

84 >>> Is it really a lie though?
Posted by: Costanza

You're fired.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 12:38 PM (1wjle)

85 I know he's going to run in 2028, but I don't see how is own appalling record won't sink him in the primary.
---
You mean the party that just overwhelmingly and eagerly voted for an attorney general who wished children would get shot in the head because of their parent's politics?

It's time we stop assuming rationality on the left:
They hate America.
They hate Republicans.
They hate Trump.
They hate conservatives.

Anyone and anything that will cause those pain and suffering are their goals, no matter how destructive, vile or disgusting a vessel it comes in--as long as it hurts those they hate.

Mark my words:
They will be running an illegal in prison for a felony murder by 2028, in a safe blue seat--just to spite America and Americans.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 12:38 PM (HXT0k)

86
I can't keep up with this dude's "reasoning." How is he simultaneously proud to provide free healthcare to illegals and upset about all the illegals in the state?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 12:38 PM (1N/bM)

87 If you polled Americans and asked the question "do you think illegal aliens are getting taxpayer funded healthcare benefits?", what so you think that poll would say?

90%+ easy would say, "yes" that is happening.

nobody truly believes it's NOT happening, they might lie to influence a polling question they don't like, but they understand what's happening

Posted by: Leupold at December 12, 2025 12:39 PM (eIzlH)

88
Ezra Klein hilariously trying to do journalism.

Newsom: "We failed on the border."

Klein: "Why?"

Newsom? "Because we failed."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 12:39 PM (1N/bM)

89 Afternoon Ace. Ezra Klein of Journo List fame must be working for some other Dem. He wouldn't have put this out if he wasn't.
Newsom is now in someone's cross hairs (not involving guns of course)

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2025 12:39 PM (D+mpw)

90 Saudi Arabia and the Olympics. IIRC the host country can designate or even create a sport for competition. The All Middle East Chopping of Body Parts for Minor Offences. Big Ali gets on the team after determining he was only semi pro.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 12, 2025 12:40 PM (gm9Sb)

91 >>>Mr. "The Constitution is like over a hundred years old"? That Ezra Klein?

no i think that was one of Obama's himbos, like Tommy Vietor. Ezra Klein never *officially* worked for the Democrat apparatus. Just the media, which, you know, is totally independent of the Democrat Party.

Racist.

Just thought I'd throw that in.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 12:40 PM (1wjle)

92 >>> Ah, I think I see the problem. You're thinking that most voters will pay at least minimal attention to actual facts and not just their feels.
Posted by: Oddbob at December 12, 2025 12:30 PM (3nLb4)

I'm stupid like that! I have faith people might one day vote facts over feels. The eternal optimist.

Posted by: LizLem at December 12, 2025 12:40 PM (gWBY1)

93 Giving "free" healthcare to illegals is monstrously unpopular. Like 95-5%.

If only The Stupid Party took advantage of such things...
Posted by: Brewingfrog

==

To be fair, they did, basically stripping medicaid funds from states for this purpose. That's why they are so mad right now at this thing that was "never" happening.

Posted by: Leupold at December 12, 2025 12:40 PM (eIzlH)

94 >>>Afternoon Ace. Ezra Klein of Journo List fame must be working for some other Dem. He wouldn't have put this out if he wasn't.

Oh I forgot, yeah, he was a ringleader of -- maybe the one who started -- JournOList.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 12:41 PM (1wjle)

95
omg I'm working my way through that interview. Biden's border failure was "a reaction to Trump." Newsom literally flat-out admits that whatever Trump did, Dems did a 180.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 12:41 PM (1N/bM)

96 Please to correct.

This is not "free" healthcare.

I pay for it. You do too.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2025 12:42 PM (9ipOP)

97 And Klein is another one I've never really heard of except here. Oh well.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2025 12:42 PM (U/Byj)

98 >>> >>> Is it really a lie though?
Posted by: Costanza

You're fired.
Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 12:38 PM (1wjle)


Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? I tell you, I gotta plead ignorance on this thing, because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing is frowned upon... you know, cause I've commented at a lot of blogs, and I tell you, people do that all the time.

Posted by: Costanza at December 12, 2025 12:42 PM (3uBP9)

99 >>>Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? I tell you, I gotta plead ignorance on this thing, because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing is frowned upon... you know, cause I've commented at a lot of blogs, and I tell you, people do that all the time.

lol

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 12:43 PM (1wjle)

100 Is Leupold pronounced LEW-POLD, or LEE A POLD?

Posted by: connected and litigious at December 12, 2025 12:43 PM (cS1cw)

101 >>> Ezra Klein hilariously trying to do journalism.

Adam Carolla's two interviews with Newsome are the only time he has not been handled with kid gloves, and both were a hilarious disaster for him. It's sad when a comedian does more journalism than supposed journalists.

Forget media news anchors. I'd love Adam Cadillac to host a debate.

Posted by: LizLem at December 12, 2025 12:43 PM (gWBY1)

102 Newsom: "We failed on the border."

Klein: "Why?"

Newsom? "Because we failed."
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 12:39 PM (1N/bM)
=====

As significant as the passage of time.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2025 12:43 PM (9ipOP)

103 There ain't no such thing as a free healthcare.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2025 12:43 PM (Vq1pX)

104 Speaking of Health Care...I seem to recall at least one of us Morons is an expert in it. I've been part-time since laid off last year, mostly not working. COBRA's about used up. Any good, affordable plans still available in Kali?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 12:43 PM (ynpvh)

105 >>>omg I'm working my way through that interview. Biden's border failure was "a reaction to Trump." Newsom literally flat-out admits that whatever Trump did, Dems did a 180.

he's echoing the New York Times Narrative Shift piece that claims that. I'll be posting that later. Hooboy, it's somethin' else.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 12:44 PM (1wjle)

106 Free Shit sells well.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 12, 2025 12:44 PM (Wg6v7)

107 100 Is Leupold pronounced LEW-POLD, or LEE A POLD?
Posted by: connected and litigious at December 12, 2025 12:43 PM (cS1cw)

Ley-yoo-pold

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2025 12:44 PM (Vq1pX)

108 Forget media news anchors. I'd love Adam Cadillac to host a debate.
Posted by: LizLem


It would be a pay per view, fo' sho'.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 12, 2025 12:44 PM (mlg/3)

109 103 There ain't no such thing as a free healthcare.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2025 12:43 PM (Vq1pX)

If it's "free" you don't know the true costs...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 12:44 PM (ynpvh)

110 > I can't keep up with this dude's "reasoning." How is he simultaneously proud to provide free healthcare to illegals and upset about all the illegals in the state?
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I would imagine the illegals are still, to this day, a huge voting bloc in CA.

One comment is for local consumption. The other's for Trump.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 12, 2025 12:45 PM (NwnyJ)

111 peaking of Health Care...I seem to recall at least one of us Morons is an expert in it. I've been part-time since laid off last year, mostly not working. COBRA's about used up. Any good, affordable plans still available in Kali?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Weird Dave, who hosts the Friday ONTs.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 12:45 PM (77rzZ)

112 Oh, you mean the commenter, not the optics company.

No idea.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2025 12:45 PM (Vq1pX)

113 107 100 Is Leupold pronounced LEW-POLD, or LEE A POLD?
Posted by: connected and litigious at December 12, 2025 12:43 PM (cS1cw)

Ley-yoo-pold

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2025 12:44 PM (Vq1pX)

Loop-hold? Loop-hole?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 12:45 PM (ynpvh)

114 Way past time to burn California to the ground and start over.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 12, 2025 12:45 PM (Wg6v7)

115 111 peaking of Health Care...I seem to recall at least one of us Morons is an expert in it. I've been part-time since laid off last year, mostly not working. COBRA's about used up. Any good, affordable plans still available in Kali?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Weird Dave, who hosts the Friday ONTs.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 12:45 PM (77rzZ)

Ah, thanks.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 12:45 PM (ynpvh)

116 >>>Adam Carolla's two interviews with Newsome are the only time he has not been handled with kid gloves, and both were a hilarious disaster for him. It's sad when a comedian does more journalism than supposed journalists.

Carolla did an experiment replacing Newsom's voice with Burt Reynolds' voice in those interviews. I'm not sure what it's supposed to prove but it's funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiIt_Rb0oi0

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 12:46 PM (1wjle)

117 @Polymarket 15m
BREAKING: FDA adding "black box" warning on COVID-19 vaccine, warning of serious side effects including death.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 12, 2025 12:25 PM (mlg/3)
====

I will be a member of that class once certified.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2025 12:46 PM (9ipOP)

118
Ezra Klein of Journo List fame must be working for some other Dem. He wouldn't have put this out if he wasn't.
Newsom is now in someone's cross hairs (not involving guns of course)
Posted by: Smell the Glove

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There's another theory: Klein just co-wrote a book called "Abundance" and has developed something called "the abundance theory" (or something) in which he supposedly tackles the Democrats' eternal failure to get things done, all while making people more prosperous, not less. It seems like he's frustrated with continuing Democrat failures and he's trying to make a change in Democrat policies and the ideology itself.

He's 5% onto something, but I've seen him talk about other things and he's way too blind and stupid to make the biggest and most obvious connections.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 12:46 PM (1N/bM)

119 Whomever the GOP candidate for President in 2028 is, (and if Newsom is the Dem) they need to insist that one of the debates needs to be seated without a table so that the country can see Newsom perform the Nutcracker.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at December 12, 2025 12:46 PM (M0V4/)

120
Adam Carolla's two interviews with Newsome are the only time he has not been handled with kid gloves, and both were a hilarious disaster for him. It's sad when a comedian does more journalism than supposed journalists.

Forget media news anchors. I'd love Adam Cadillac to host a debate.
Posted by: LizLem at December 12, 2025 12:43

I love that clip and it should be played more often. I also wonder if Carolla was audited after that interview.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 12, 2025 12:46 PM (a4iX6)

121 Illegals now have to pay some small amount for healthcare in California because Newsom got the math wrong. Ooops.

Posted by: coba at December 12, 2025 12:46 PM (IuIym)

122 114 Way past time to burn California to the ground and start over.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 12, 2025 12:45 PM (Wg6v7)

With current forestry policies here, it won't take long...just wait for the next drought.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 12:46 PM (ynpvh)

123 “Undocumented Immigrants”

What a Fag. At least two lies, for the price of one.

They are not “immigrants” and they are not “undocumented”.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 12:46 PM (K0w3s)

124 111 peaking of Health Care...I seem to recall at least one of us Morons is an expert in it. I've been part-time since laid off last year, mostly not working. COBRA's about used up. Any good, affordable plans still available in Kali?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Learn to speak Spanish and go to the Emergency Room. Free Shit abounds.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 12, 2025 12:46 PM (Wg6v7)

125 Carolla did an experiment replacing Newsom's voice with Burt Reynolds' voice in those interviews. I'm not sure what it's supposed to prove but it's funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiIt_Rb0oi0
Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 12:46 PM (1wjle)
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So Gavin's words can be analyzed separately from his style and presentation.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2025 12:46 PM (9ipOP)

126 Ah, thanks.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

You're welcome. Somebody else asked about him on the last thread, too.

How're you doing?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 12:47 PM (77rzZ)

127 I thankfully have no standing to sue for covid shot.

Posted by: connected and litigious at December 12, 2025 12:47 PM (cS1cw)

128 I can't keep up with this dude's "reasoning." How is he simultaneously proud to provide free healthcare to illegals and upset about all the illegals in the state?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 12:38 PM (1N/bM)
*******
He's slick. Newsom has learned that he can get away with talking out of both sides of his mouth.
He's been doing this for years and it has gotten him elected.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 12, 2025 12:47 PM (NpAcC)

129 Posted by: Pudinhead at December 12, 2025 12:46 PM (Wg6v7)
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When your company COBRA expires the state will offer you a 3 year Cal-COBRA extension.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2025 12:48 PM (9ipOP)

130 113 107 100 Is Leupold pronounced LEW-POLD, or LEE A POLD?
Posted by: connected and litigious at December 12, 2025 12:43 PM (cS1cw)

Ley-yoo-pold

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2025 12:44 PM (Vq1pX)

Loop-hold? Loop-hole?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 12:45 PM (ynpvh)

It's pronounced "Larry." Just like it's spelled.

Posted by: Bobby Hugbox at December 12, 2025 12:48 PM (C24tU)

131 126 Ah, thanks.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

You're welcome. Somebody else asked about him on the last thread, too.

How're you doing?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 12:47 PM (77rzZ)

Okay. Surgery is Monday. Still paying for the last one, LOL. And my son's "visit" to ER in June...and for his ambulance service...and for...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 12:48 PM (ynpvh)

132 Obviously ending illegal medical $ to illegal aliens is another key move that needs to get done yesterday.

But again, it pales in comparison, in terms of impact (#s self-deporting) to the absolutely critical move, that will yield yuuuge results: turning off the magnet of employment by enforcing the law against employers.

The low-risk, low-cost, almost invisible (in public relations terms) move, which is girls' gym compared to messy raids with idiots protesting/interfering. Fifty lawyers making 5 phone calls a day to known perp firms laying out the situation - with some demonstrative raids and executive suite arrests to set the table - and the outflow of illegals will be dramatic.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2025 12:48 PM (U/Byj)

133 I'm getting ready to make chili because it's getting cold this weekend. I had stuff laid out and just noticed that one of my cans of beans was actually a can of cranberry sauce that wasn't used. That would have been bad.

So here's my philosophical, moral ethics problem:

If you had accidently used cranberry sauce, the canned jell stuff, in your chili, would you

A. Still eat it. Except your faults and embrace the outcome.
B. Throw it all out and start from scratch. Adapt and overcome.
C. ?? whatever that is

Posted by: banana Dream at December 12, 2025 12:48 PM (3uBP9)

134 >>>So Gavin's words can be analyzed separately from his style and presentation.

yeah I thought that would be too hard to explain but I see you did it very concisely.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 12:48 PM (1wjle)

135 129 Posted by: Pudinhead at December 12, 2025 12:46 PM (Wg6v7)
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When your company COBRA expires the state will offer you a 3 year Cal-COBRA extension.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2025 12:48 PM (9ipOP)

Oh? Didn't know that.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 12:48 PM (ynpvh)

136 Didn't Carolla's house burn down in the big fire? He's got every reason to go after Greasebag.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 12:48 PM (77rzZ)

137 Who was that Congressman who yelled "you lie" during Obama's SOTU speech? Remember how he was shamed for that, even if it was a breech of etiquette. He was right! When will he get an apology?

Posted by: Lex at December 12, 2025 12:49 PM (l5xX+)

138
Klein is another one I've never really heard of except here. Oh well.
Posted by: rhomboid

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Oh, you remember him. "The trouble with the Constitution is that it's, like, a hundred years old."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 12:49 PM (1N/bM)

139 Gavin Newsom's autobiography. Chapter three. The beatings in middle school.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 12, 2025 12:50 PM (gm9Sb)

140 >>>Oh, you remember him. "The trouble with the Constitution is that it's, like, a hundred years old."

no that was, I think, Tommy Vietor.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 12:50 PM (1wjle)

141
Who was that Congressman who yelled "you lie" during Obama's SOTU speech? Remember how he was shamed for that, even if it was a breech of etiquette. He was right! When will he get an apology?
Posted by: Lex

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Joe Wilson. I established a Personal Best in running time as I dashed to my computer to send him $25.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 12:50 PM (1N/bM)

142 I'm getting ready to make chili because it's getting cold this weekend. I had stuff laid out and just noticed that one of my cans of beans was actually a can of cranberry sauce that wasn't used. That would have been bad.

So here's my philosophical, moral ethics problem:

If you had accidently used cranberry sauce, the canned jell stuff, in your chili, would you

A. Still eat it. Except your faults and embrace the outcome.
B. Throw it all out and start from scratch. Adapt and overcome.
C. ?? whatever that is
Posted by: banana Dream

A. Just add carrots, it'll be fine.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 12:50 PM (77rzZ)

143 133 I'm getting ready to make chili because it's getting cold this weekend. I had stuff laid out and just noticed that one of my cans of beans was actually a can of cranberry sauce that wasn't used. That would have been bad.

So here's my philosophical, moral ethics problem:

If you had accidently used cranberry sauce, the canned jell stuff, in your chili, would you

A. Still eat it. Except your faults and embrace the outcome.
B. Throw it all out and start from scratch. Adapt and overcome.
C. ?? whatever that is
Posted by: banana Dream at December 12, 2025 12:48 PM (3uBP9)

Separate out the jelly, eat it on the side. Add beans and continue chili

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 12:50 PM (xcxpd)

144 136 Didn't Carolla's house burn down in the big fire? He's got every reason to go after Greasebag.
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 12:48 PM (77rzZ)

I think his house was spared.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 12, 2025 12:50 PM (a4iX6)

145 Didn't Carolla's house burn down in the big fire? He's got every reason to go after Greasebag.
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 12:48 PM (77rzZ)
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No it escaped.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2025 12:50 PM (9ipOP)

146 102 Newsom: "We failed on the border."

Klein: "Why?"

Newsom? "Because we failed."
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 12:39 PM (1N/bM)
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As significant as the passage of time.


TBF, he did say that they'd have to get control of the border before they can get to their holy amnesty grail. Now, since Trump has already gotten control of the border, I guess that means we can move straight to amnesty.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 12:50 PM (Riz8t)

147 Leupold pronounced

A Gun Show loophole?

Posted by: parrots at December 12, 2025 12:50 PM (DY2gD)

148 C. ?? whatever that is
Posted by: banana Dream at December 12, 2025 12:48 PM (3uBP9)

Eat it and enjoy!

There's a "recipe" that's literally just a whole can of whatever junk chili sauce you got on hand, a whole can of cranberry sauce, a bag of frozen pre-made meatballs, and a crock pot.

It sounds absurd but it's actually pretty good.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2025 12:51 PM (Vq1pX)

149 132 Obviously ending illegal medical $ to illegal aliens is another key move that needs to get done yesterday.

But again, it pales in comparison, in terms of impact (#s self-deporting) to the absolutely critical move, that will yield yuuuge results: turning off the magnet of employment by enforcing the law against employers.

The low-risk, low-cost, almost invisible (in public relations terms) move, which is girls' gym compared to messy raids with idiots protesting/interfering. Fifty lawyers making 5 phone calls a day to known perp firms laying out the situation - with some demonstrative raids and executive suite arrests to set the table - and the outflow of illegals will be dramatic.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2025 12:48 PM (U/Byj)

Moar like this

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 12:51 PM (xcxpd)

150 Just looked up Cal-Cobra. Thanks. Looks like I can get another 18 months.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 12:51 PM (ynpvh)

151 C. Beat my wife with the can of cranberry sauce.

If I'm cooking, she has failed me.

There have to be consequences.

Posted by: Bobby Hugbox at December 12, 2025 12:52 PM (C24tU)

152 141...yes, Joe Wilson! That was the end of the world to the media and Dems when it happened. And that was like 15 years ago. It's all optics and who said it; not whether it was true or right. Narrative over substance, despite what they tell us about being truth seekers and all that rot.

Posted by: Lex at December 12, 2025 12:52 PM (l5xX+)

153 Add Mayo to the chili. Everyone loves jellied cranberry. Call it a sandwich.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 12, 2025 12:52 PM (Wg6v7)

154
no that was, I think, Tommy Vietor.
Posted by: ace

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Hmm, maybe. I recall Tommy Vietor was the guy speaking to Brett Baier about internal doctoring of Benghazi coverage. "Dude. That was like two years ago."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 12:53 PM (1N/bM)

155 Who was that Congressman who yelled "you lie" during Obama's SOTU speech? Remember how he was shamed for that, even if it was a breech of etiquette. He was right! When will he get an apology?
Posted by: Lex

Obama said something about a Supreme Court case (Citizens United?) in one of his SOTUs, and even the Wide Latina was caught on camera saying something like "not true" under her breath.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 12:53 PM (77rzZ)

156

Hey, they have to own up to letting tens of millions into the country. They will get around to it.

What a greasy tapeworm this buffoon is.

Posted by: E Buzz at December 12, 2025 12:53 PM (eXp3j)

157 Gavin Newsom had the balls to announce he was cutting street cleaning in half and the result would be cleaner streets.

That takes chutzpah.

Analyzing their rhetoric is much simpler if you begin with the presumption they think you're stupid.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2025 12:53 PM (9ipOP)

158 The democrats have moved on from "spending other peoples' money" to giving away entire countries to noncitizens in order to get their votes.

Trying to figure out what they can possibly offer next.

Posted by: red speck at December 12, 2025 12:53 PM (Ve/HL)

159 The problems are not hard to fix at all. The problem is half the government wants to fundamentally transform the nation. Might even go 2/3rds.

Posted by: connected and litigious at December 12, 2025 12:53 PM (cS1cw)

160 >>>Hmm, maybe. I recall Tommy Vietor was the guy speaking to Brett Baier about internal doctoring of Benghazi coverage. "Dude. That was like two years ago."

oh maybe I'm getting it confused. I don't think Ezra Klein said the constitution was like 100 years old. Wasn't that Meghan McCain, then?

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 12:54 PM (1wjle)

161 But again, it pales in comparison, in terms of impact (#s self-deporting) to the absolutely critical move, that will yield yuuuge results: turning off the magnet of employment by enforcing the law against employers.

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You'd clear out half of them over night by not letting illegals go to public schools.

So if you live a block outside the school district you can't attend, but if you're here illegally, and you HAVE TO let them have a spot at schools?

This alone is like trillions of dollars that are being wasted.

Posted by: Leupold at December 12, 2025 12:55 PM (eIzlH)

162 This is not news. This is not a win. He has been saying this for the last three years. It was his way of begging terrorists, rapists, and drug dealers to come to his state. However, while illegals get free health care and tuition-all the way through college, CA residents must pay for their health care. The health care is $10 Billion per year that illegals get, so $30 Billion just in free health care. Remember that when they start talking about amnesty and paying a $250 fine.

Posted by: wferrin at December 12, 2025 12:55 PM (2Nm29)

163 @157 I believe him. Just like Stalin's Five Year Plan was completed in four years

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2025 12:55 PM (D+mpw)

164 even the Wide Latina was caught on camera saying something like "not true" under her breath.
Posted by: Bulg
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I think that was Roberts. Sotomayor the Stupid would never go against the lightworker.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 12:56 PM (1Nv0l)

165
Yeah, Klein was the one who said the Constitution is like 100 years old.

https://tinyurl.com/2t5rc3ua

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 12:56 PM (1N/bM)

166 Sure, I'll read everything, but did they get around to, "And besides, its all your fault," yet?

Posted by: 80's music fan at December 12, 2025 12:56 PM (YlWIZ)

167 Is Leupold pronounced LEW-POLD, or LEE A POLD?
Posted by: connected and litigious

Throat Warbler Mangrove

Posted by: Stu Podaso at December 12, 2025 12:57 PM (M0V4/)

168 >>>Yeah, Klein was the one who said the Constitution is like 100 years old.
https://tinyurl.com/2t5rc3ua

Huh.

This is why Breitbart only read the comments. I am unreliable.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 12:57 PM (1wjle)

169 oh maybe I'm getting it confused. I don't think Ezra Klein said the constitution was like 100 years old. Wasn't that Meghan McCain, then?
Posted by: ace

I think it was a chick, but I don't remember her name. Maybe some Congresswoman?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 12:57 PM (77rzZ)

170 Obama said something about a Supreme Court case (Citizens United?) in one of his SOTUs, and even the Wide Latina was caught on camera saying something like "not true" under her breath.

IIRC, that was Alito.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 12, 2025 12:58 PM (3nLb4)

171 I think that was Roberts. Sotomayor the Stupid would never go against the lightworker.
Posted by: Don't blame the alligators

I seem to remember that it was Sotomayor. That's what made it so noteworthy.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 12:58 PM (77rzZ)

172 Remember that Terra blockchain that got depegged and dumped in '22 leaving thousands holding empty bags? Probably not. Anyway, the guy running it just got sentenced to 15 years in FPMITA prison, more than anyone asked for.

Posted by: banana Dream - your humble fartcoin reporter at December 12, 2025 12:58 PM (3uBP9)

173 @160 ace, nah , Meghan McCain said the Constitution was like a 100 donuts ago

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2025 12:58 PM (D+mpw)

174 If something is true, and you mistakenly believe it's not true, but you proclaim it's true anyway, aren't you lying?

Because I can read Trump's mind. And he actually believes that Democrats don't provide health care to undocumented immigrants. Therefore he's lying when he says they do.

Posted by: Ezra at December 12, 2025 12:58 PM (GD2xa)

175 Obsma may have told YOU to check tire pressure, but I think it was just in his notes that day.

Posted by: 80's music fan at December 12, 2025 12:58 PM (YlWIZ)

176 I am unreliable.
Posted by: ace

You're never gonna get past that shelving incident, are you?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 12:59 PM (77rzZ)

177 This is why Breitbart only read the comments. I am unreliable.
Posted by: ace

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Nah, it's because we're funnier.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 12:59 PM (1Nv0l)

178 @164 actually I think it was Alito saying "not true"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2025 12:59 PM (D+mpw)

179 It's like a scene from "I, Mudd". He cannot tell the truth but he says he is lying but it must be the truth but he lies....


Posted by: Toad-0 at December 12, 2025 12:59 PM (S6jVk)

180 Yeah, Klein was the one who said the Constitution is like 100 years old.

https://tinyurl.com/2t5rc3ua
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

No math!!!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 12, 2025 12:59 PM (ZaZ9u)

181 Ezra Klein did make that statement about the Constitution

Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 12:59 PM (sDNVV)

182 "Now, since Trump has already gotten control of the border, I guess that means we can move straight to amnesty." - Archimedes

Exactly the situation. And the amnesty will be lawless and "administrative", just as Biden/Obama worst of all, but also other administrations, misused discretion to create de facto amnesty (culminating in the worst case, DACA).

Still likely that enough GOP senators will remain terrified to vote for actual amnesty (41), despite being desperate to do so - assuming a few don't do a banzai charge and retire before their next primary - so lawless abuse of power will be the only option.

Border can be opened/closed like a door. Trump 2.0 just dramatically illustrated this. Reason #1,321 why removals of illegals is an urgent matter, and the administration should play like they're 20 points behind. They are, mostly - but not in the most important area, employment.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2025 01:00 PM (U/Byj)

183 Which just again raises the question of why Trump's HHS, whose secretary is given unbelievable dictatorial powers under that same law, never uses those powers to strangle/destroy/dismantle that enormous anchor around the country's neck. A question raised by a few in the first term, where again nothing was done.

So has the administration moved to end/block all $ to CA and other states proportional to those funds being illegally spent on illegal aliens? And is HHS gonna do anything else using its enormous discretion under the existing law?
Posted by: rhomboid
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They are but DC courts. Plus, all blue states are having to be sued to get basic information on voting lists, Medicaid recipients, and so on.

Cutting off funds implicates the APA and other laws so all of that takes time including overcoming adverse lower court decisions even if the law is black letter. See Planned Parenthood cutoff ruling from a Boston district court judge despite BBB specifically cutting those funds off.

Basically legal mumbo jumbo ruling, "it ain't fair to single out PP by cutting off their funds." See Liberty interest of the 14th Amendment as quasi justification although misapplied here.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 01:00 PM (WDjG6)

184
It's so cute when You People try to remember stuff.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 12, 2025 01:00 PM (eLNVP)

185 175 Obsma may have told YOU to check tire pressure, but I think it was just in his notes that day.
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Much like Pete Buttigig, my read of Barry is that he has never changed a tire.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 12, 2025 01:00 PM (Wg6v7)

186 176 I am unreliable.
Posted by: ace

You're never gonna get past that shelving incident, are you?
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 12:59 PM (77rzZ)

And Macho Grande

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 01:00 PM (xcxpd)

187
TBF, he did say that they'd have to get control of the border before they can get to their holy amnesty grail. Now, since Trump has already gotten control of the border, I guess that means we can move straight to amnesty.
Posted by: Archimedes

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"Bravely" copping to one "mistake" so he can move quickly along to the "solution" (total amnesty) is a Stupid Politician Trick that Democrats will nod along with.

Then JD Vance will expose it in 2 seconds.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 01:01 PM (1N/bM)

188 This is why Breitbart only read the comments. I am unreliable.

Posted by: ace at December 12, 2025 12:57 PM (1wjle)

We still love you, Ace!

Posted by: pookysgirl, somewhat reliable at December 12, 2025 01:01 PM (Wt5PA)

189 Surprising no one, the left has filed a lawsuit to stop construction on the WH ballroom.

See, the construction is a violation of the Administrative Procedures Act and the National Environmental Policy Act. (lol, wut?)

Will the illegal injunction be granted today or will the clown judge wait until Monday?

LOL, these retards:
Do they realize that they've just given Trump a SCOTUS ruling that the APA is unconstitutional?

Every single lawsuit against Trump has cited violations of the APA ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 01:02 PM (HXT0k)

190 Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh

BREAKING: Nicki Minaj DECIMATES Gavin Newsom for saying "I want to see trans kids"

"Imagine being the guy running on wanting to see trans kids. Haha. Not even a trans ADULT would run on that. Normal adults wake up & think they want to see HEALTHY, SAFE, HAPPY kids. Not Gav"

Incredible things are happening. She's also been praising JD Vance.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 12, 2025 01:02 PM (NpAcC)

191 I seem to remember that it was Sotomayor. That's what made it so noteworthy.
Posted by: Bulg

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I just looked it up (cheating, I know). It was Alito. But Roberts backed him up.

It was noteworthy because Obama broke decorum with the criticism, and Alito broke decorum by responding.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 01:02 PM (1Nv0l)

192 >> This is why Breitbart only read the comments.


That guy knew the score.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2025 01:02 PM (IaZ7c)

193 It was definitely Alito who said "not true." I think that was a different SOTU than the Joe Wilson "you lie" comment. But Wilson didn't mutter it under his breath. He yelled it. And got tons of flak for it. Not because it was wrong, though. And we all know if AOC or some other ding dong yelled that at Trump it would be framed as a brave act of resistance or whatever. Like Pelosi tearing up the SOTU speech.

Posted by: Lex at December 12, 2025 01:02 PM (l5xX+)

194 Speaking of Health Care...I seem to recall at least one of us Morons is an expert in it. I've been part-time since laid off last year, mostly not working. COBRA's about used up. Any good, affordable plans still available in Kali?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 12:43 PM (ynpvh)

Go to ehealth.com all the plans are there. This goes for every state.


Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 01:03 PM (9iyS+)

195
I am unreliable.
Posted by: ace

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You're still furrier and more cuddly and likable than I am.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 01:04 PM (1N/bM)

196 >>> Incredible things are happening. She's also been praising JD Vance.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 12, 2025 01:02 PM (NpAcC)


She's been asked, and has stated she's interested in, being an ambassador or something to raise awareness of the plight of Christians being killed around the world.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 12, 2025 01:04 PM (3uBP9)

197 Thought for the day. Time always folds in upon itself like an origami chicken.

https://is.gd/1kK4Iu

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 01:05 PM (L/fGl)

198 Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh

BREAKING: Nicki Minaj DECIMATES Gavin Newsom for saying "I want to see trans kids"

"Imagine being the guy running on wanting to see trans kids. Haha. Not even a trans ADULT would run on that. Normal adults wake up & think they want to see HEALTHY, SAFE, HAPPY kids. Not Gav"

Incredible things are happening. She's also been praising JD Vance.
Posted by: redridinghood

Trump acknowledging the persecution and murder of Christianss by Muslims in Africa really opened her eyes.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 01:05 PM (MGB5H)

199 >>>BREAKING: FDA adding "black box" warning on COVID-19 vaccine, warning of serious side effects including death.

Is this verified? I feel like I've finally been vindicated after years of abuse.

Posted by: Max Power at December 12, 2025 01:06 PM (SwyyQ)

200 "I'm proud of that. I believe in universal health care."

For the entire planet, apparently. Paid for by American taxpayers.

Run Gavin, run. Please. You are so going to get smashed by JD.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 01:06 PM (1Nv0l)

201 I am a Christian.
It's almost Christmas.
I am not supposed to hate.
But, damn I come close when it comes to the dems.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 01:07 PM (2WIwB)

202 For them it's a ritual, like the 5 minute hate. Of course Trump is lying.

Posted by: PG at December 12, 2025 01:07 PM (1GUBr)

203 Making.rounds on X is a smug AWFL state senator fot KY making the case that white children should learn in school how terrible they are for having the audicity for having been born with white skin.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 01:07 PM (Dv3i1)

204 Saudi Arabia and the Olympics. IIRC the host country can designate or even create a sport for competition. The All Middle East Chopping of Body Parts for Minor Offences. Big Ali gets on the team after determining he was only semi pro.
Posted by: bill

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Waaaay back, Nat Lamp proposed 'Running Amok' as an Olympic event. They opined that the Turks would be a shoo-in.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2025 01:07 PM (XeU6L)

205 abuse after years of vindication > vindicated after years of abuse

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 01:07 PM (1Nv0l)

206 Surprising no one, the left has filed a lawsuit to stop construction on the WH ballroom.

See, the construction is a violation of the Administrative Procedures Act and the National Environmental Policy Act. (lol, wut?)

Will the illegal injunction be granted today or will the clown judge wait until Monday?

LOL, these retards:
Do they realize that they've just given Trump a SCOTUS ruling that the APA is unconstitutional?

Every single lawsuit against Trump has cited violations of the APA ....
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 01:02 PM (HXT0k)
********
These people are insane. The building has already been torn down. What do they wanna do leave it in a pile of rubble for Trump's whole term?

Posted by: redridinghood at December 12, 2025 01:08 PM (NpAcC)

207
So if you live a block outside the school district you can't attend, but if you're here illegally, and you HAVE TO let them have a spot at schools?
This alone is like trillions of dollars that are being wasted.
Posted by: Leupold

Watching the local Orlando news, they are having to consolidate and close public schools all across the region, Orlando and Orange County, due to a lack of students.

The talking heads were all "but what happened to them all?" and "what's different this year?".

Dumbasses. They are self departing and Homan is kicking the fuck out.

I voted for this.

Posted by: BifBewalski at December 12, 2025 01:09 PM (GeOin)

208 Border can be opened/closed like a door. Trump 2.0 just dramatically illustrated this. Reason #1,321 why removals of illegals is an urgent matter, and the administration should play like they're 20 points behind. They are, mostly - but not in the most important area, employment.
Posted by: rhomboid

From a public safety standpoint, removing criminals and terrorists should come first. Every American killed by an illegal criminal is one needless death.

Second, Trump is trying to keep the economy going at the same time other disruptive moves are being made---tariffs shifting countries of production, supply chains for critical goods like food and pharma, probably some quid pro quo involving Latin countries that play ball on Venezuela (foreign and domestic issue), etc.

Trump and his team are masters at economic policy even in his first term, and he is in a rush which is why all the GOPe, Dems, and black robed tyrants are out to disrupt, delay, and deny his ability to roll back the tide.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 01:09 PM (WDjG6)

209 The problems are not hard to fix at all. The problem is half the government wants to fundamentally transform the nation. Might even go 2/3rds.
---
Never forget Bill Krystol's tweet. Which basically said:
The people can choose so long as they choose what we want.

That is why we are in the most dangerous time.
Not because they are winning but because they are no longer able to win.
And so, they will destroy the country rather than give up power.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 01:09 PM (HXT0k)

210 Waaaay back, Nat Lamp proposed 'Running Amok' as an Olympic event. They opined that the Turks would be a shoo-in.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2025 01:07 PM


How about 'Jumping to Conclusions'? I'd watch that.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 01:09 PM (kgE5c)

211 Well whig then the urgency of the matter is even greater than I claimed. And of course another case in which the administration should meet the lawless "courts" with defiance - and there are often sneaky ways to do that in such matters. Just stop funding by the amount estimated (and now admitted) to being used contrary to law. Let a court try to compel disbursement.

Finally, finally, finally - start to put the judiciary back in its place. Which is far far below and much less important than it has, disastrously, been allowed to become.

There are infinite rationalizations to comply with the imaginary imperatives the Legal Cult has invented, and they lead to where we are today. Administration has a choice to be either a speed bump, or a change in direction.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2025 01:09 PM (U/Byj)

212 Thanks for setting me straight on the "not true" incident, folks.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 01:09 PM (77rzZ)

213 Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh

BREAKING: Nicki Minaj DECIMATES Gavin Newsom for saying "I want to see trans kids"

"Imagine being the guy running on wanting to see trans kids. Haha. Not even a trans ADULT would run on that. Normal adults wake up & think they want to see HEALTHY, SAFE, HAPPY kids. Not Gav"

Incredible things are happening. She's also been praising JD Vance.
Posted by: redridinghood

Trump acknowledging the persecution and murder of Christianss by Muslims in Africa really opened her eyes.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 01:05 PM (MGB5H)
_______

I would not put too much faith in Nicki Minaj, given her history, but she's been stronger on culture issues concerning children than I would have expected. I also think that blacks aren't nearly as down with the tranny movement as AWFuLs are. Trannyism seems 99% an affluent white thing.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 01:10 PM (iFTx/)

214 More and more I realize we can’t live with these people. And this includes establishment GOP.

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 01:11 PM (ZdaMQ)

215 Newsom and Klein
Gay vs Really Gay

Posted by: wth at December 12, 2025 01:11 PM (v0R5T)

216 She's been asked, and has stated she's interested in, being an ambassador or something to raise awareness of the plight of Christians being killed around the world.
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When you live in a world where an unchaste woman speaks more against the persecution of Christians than the Pope ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 01:12 PM (HXT0k)

217 How about 'Jumping to Conclusions'? I'd watch that.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

I've invented a jumping to conclusions mat. It has different conclusions and you can jump to them.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 01:12 PM (MGB5H)

218 BREAKING: Nicki Minaj DECIMATES Gavin Newsom for saying "I want to see trans kids"

She killed 1/10 of him? The other 9/10s remain dangerous, no doubt, shambling on.

I wish she would have DESTROYED him with FACTS and LOGIC instead.

Posted by: Bobby Hugbox at December 12, 2025 01:12 PM (C24tU)

219 Waaaay back, Nat Lamp proposed 'Running Amok' as an Olympic event. They opined that the Turks would be a shoo-in.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2025 01:07 PM

How about 'Jumping to Conclusions'? I'd watch that.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

No love for dildo tossing?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 01:12 PM (77rzZ)

220 >>> Border can be opened/closed like a door. Trump 2.0 just dramatically illustrated this. Reason #1,321 why removals of illegals is an urgent matter, and the administration should play like they're 20 points behind. They are, mostly - but not in the most important area, employment.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2025 01:00 PM (U/Byj)


Five seconds after they throw Trump out and the left is back in charge they will open the border wide open and then state there's simply no way to close it now as that is just the way things have always been.

And no one will question them.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 12, 2025 01:13 PM (3uBP9)

221 I also think that blacks aren't nearly as down with the tranny movement as AWFuLs are. Trannyism seems 99% an affluent white thing.
Posted by: Elric The Blade
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Just like the gay thing. There's a reason Pete Buttgig has zeropointzero support among Blacks.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 01:13 PM (1Nv0l)

222 I've invented a jumping to conclusions mat. It has different conclusions and you can jump to them.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 01:12 PM


I'm putting my money on the Jumping Jews of Jerusalem.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 01:13 PM (kgE5c)

223 Someone in the last thread asked what value health insurance companies provide and its an interesting question now...because they aren't providing insurance.

Insurance would be "this plan covers you getting hit by a car or getting brain cancer" it would not include check ups or lab work or any of that.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2025 01:13 PM (sKqQm)

224 I've invented a jumping to conclusions mat. It has different conclusions and you can jump to them.
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Its called Twister. Jan Brady and I got it on playing Twister.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 12, 2025 01:14 PM (Wg6v7)

225 BREAKING: Nicki Minaj DECIMATES Gavin Newsom for saying "I want to see trans kids"

She killed 1/10 of him? The other 9/10s remain dangerous, no doubt, shambling on.

Posted by: Bobby Hugbox

Because the meaning of words must be fixed in stone and may never, ever change.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 01:14 PM (77rzZ)

226 Gavin Newsom: "I believe in universal health care."

"So -- if aliens come here, you think we should give them all free health care?"

"Of course — I support our Hispanic community."

"No, you misunderstand -- I mean, if alien-aliens, like from outer space, come here, should we give them all free health care?"

"I did say 'universal,' didn't I?"

But seriously, if you combine No Borders + Unchecked Mass Illegal Immigration + Universal Healthcare, then we are basically providing free health to the entire world (and universe, once the UFOs land).

Posted by: zombie at December 12, 2025 01:14 PM (oraVG)

227 These people are insane. The building has already been torn down. What do they wanna do leave it in a pile of rubble for Trump's whole term?
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It's spite.
They don't care if they leave an eyesore that lingers for decades.
So long as it hurts Trump, Republicans and America.

The threat is:
Give them back their power or they will leave America in rubble.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 01:14 PM (HXT0k)

228 Saudi Arabia and the Olympics. IIRC the host country can designate or even create a sport for competition. The All Middle East Chopping of Body Parts for Minor Offences. Big Ali gets on the team after determining he was only semi pro.
Posted by: bill

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Waaaay back, Nat Lamp proposed 'Running Amok' as an Olympic event. They opined that the Turks would be a shoo-in.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2025 01:07 PM (XeU6L)

I know that's a thing in Indonesia and the south pacific. Is it a thing in Turkey too where folks just go nuts, grab a blade and start hacking away?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 01:15 PM (xcxpd)

229 We send kids to college to get a better education and prepare for a better future. But what we get is warped minds full of hate for their country and want socialism or communism to make everyone equal in their eyes. Instead of smarter they come out more stupid and dangerous to the country. They are too stupid to know they are being played. And our media applauds this.

Posted by: Case at December 12, 2025 01:15 PM (G1OIb)

230 Insurance would be "this plan covers you getting hit by a car or getting brain cancer" it would not include check ups or lab work or any of that.
Posted by: 18-1

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Obama made those plans illegal. He wanted to force people who take care of themselves to pay for the slobs.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 01:15 PM (1Nv0l)

231 Its called Twister. Jan Brady and I got it on playing Twister.
Posted by: Pudinhead

A friend of mine in elementary school had a crush on Eve Plumb, who played Jan.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 01:15 PM (77rzZ)

232 So I saw that tweet Ace posted hours ago, and I thought: ???

I simply could not parse it. He lied, by stating a true fact.

I thought there must be a word missing. As cynical as I am, I did not understand that Ace just explained.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 12, 2025 01:16 PM (uxVjF)

233 Economic rationalization for what could be a disastrously slow approach to the employment lever on mass illegal migration doesn't wash.

There are certain sectors to start with, and ways to do it, that minimize disruption - in fact both common sense and previous examples show there is a net economic benefit, and pretty quickly, to American citizens involved.

And this approach has been laid out and known since the first term. No administration can control the future or the idiocies the American people will tolerate or even embrace. But the choice between speed bump and change of direction is entirely up to the administration.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2025 01:16 PM (U/Byj)

234 Hmm. Let's see. I've got a dentist appointment this afternoon and dermatologist stitches out on Monday.
None of it is FREE. I think I've been suckered.

Posted by: wth at December 12, 2025 01:16 PM (v0R5T)

235 Monty Python had the classic Silly Olympics
Hundred yard dash for people with no sense of direction
Marathon for incontinents
100 meter swim for nonswimmers

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2025 01:16 PM (D+mpw)

236 Insurance would be "this plan covers you getting hit by a car or getting brain cancer" it would not include check ups or lab work or any of that.
Posted by: 18-1

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Obama made those plans illegal. He wanted to force people who take care of themselves to pay for the slobs.
Posted by: Don't blame the alligators

Yup I carried catastrophic coverage plan and it was glorious. It was gone immediately.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025 01:16 PM (MGB5H)

237 The day taxpayers in Guatemala give me something for free is the day I'll give them something for free.

Posted by: zombie at December 12, 2025 01:16 PM (oraVG)

238 Do they realize that they've just given Trump a SCOTUS ruling that the APA is unconstitutional?

Every single lawsuit against Trump has cited violations of the APA ....
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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NEPA is probably what will cause higher courts to reverse the ruling. Scotus precedent has narrowed it a lot.

APA is simply codification of Londoner v. Denver and BiMetallic v. Board of Equalization Scotus rulings at the turn of the century.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 01:17 PM (WDjG6)

239 "No, you misunderstand -- I mean, if alien-aliens, like from outer space, come here, should we give them all free health care?"

"I did say 'universal,' didn't I?"
.......

But they have green blood.

Posted by: wth at December 12, 2025 01:18 PM (v0R5T)

240 johnny maga
@_johnnymaga
Tim Walz is currently defending Somalis, who perpetrated one of the largest fraud schemes in history—and attacking Trump for bringing it up:

“The idea that the Somali community’s to blame for this… Trump brought this to the attention… very dangerous!”

https://tinyurl.com/2m7hhcmm

Posted by: redridinghood at December 12, 2025 01:18 PM (NpAcC)

241 Nood

Posted by: Thanatopsis at December 12, 2025 01:19 PM (5IH8V)

242 Yup I carried catastrophic coverage plan and it was glorious. It was gone immediately.
Posted by: BruceWayn
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Same. I pay a fortune for a lousy ObamaCare plan under which the Insurance company still attempts to charge me for the few morsels of preventative care I use that are supposed to be covered.

Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at December 12, 2025 01:19 PM (1Nv0l)

243 Obama made those plans illegal. He wanted to force people who take care of themselves to pay for the slobs.
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He wanted to delay adolescence to the age of 26. Healthy kids don't buy insurance. Much like the Mothers Against Drunk Driving delayed adolescence by moving the age of majority from 18 to 21. Fuck these twits.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 12, 2025 01:19 PM (Wg6v7)

244 >>> Gavin Newsom: "I believe in universal health care."

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Last spring, the large health insurance company my wife works for (I.T. side of it.) had a 10% RIF. They started with 10k stateside contractors. Today she found out her org has to reduce another 20%.

This kind of seems like the path to universal healthcare. Instability in the private sector?

Posted by: Turn 2 at December 12, 2025 01:20 PM (CyFyf)

245 217 How about 'Jumping to Conclusions'? I'd watch that.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

I've invented a jumping to conclusions mat. It has different conclusions and you can jump to them.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 12, 2025

Can we put this on a trampoline? How fun would this be?

Posted by: Piper at December 12, 2025 01:20 PM (ZdaMQ)

246 Gavin Newsom had the balls to announce he was cutting street cleaning in half and the result would be cleaner streets.

That takes chutzpah.

Analyzing their rhetoric is much simpler if you begin with the presumption they think you're stupid.
--------

Their presumption is that you will comply. And mostly, we do.

Posted by: Crusader at December 12, 2025 01:20 PM (TN0g+)

247 239 "No, you misunderstand -- I mean, if alien-aliens, like from outer space, come here, should we give them all free health care?"

"I did say 'universal,' didn't I?"
.......

But they have green blood.
Posted by: wth


California taxpayers will fund McCoy Clinics in every neighborhood, where we patch up rock-eating underground aliens with silica cement.

Posted by: zombie at December 12, 2025 01:21 PM (oraVG)

248 >>> Its called Twister. Jan Brady and I got it on playing Twister.
Posted by: Pudinhead

A friend of mine in elementary school had a crush on Eve Plumb, who played Jan.
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 01:15 PM (77rzZ)


I don't know how it happened, but the attractive dodgeball bicurious chick Christine Taylor is the original Marsha for me now. Somehow she has overwritten my brady bunch core memory location and I just have her now.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 12, 2025 01:21 PM (3uBP9)

249 The dem mentality is "never let a crisis go to waste."

Obamacare was just
- Identify something we can sell as a vital bill to pass
- Lard it full of all our grift.
- Name it something clever
- Pass bill.


Like "Inflation Reduction Act", the "Affordable Care Act" was just a name and nothing in the bill had to do with that. It was all about locking the industry into their socialist plans.

It was a negotiation between the Medical Industrial Complex and the Democrat Party over how they were going to divvy up the loot.

And what bothered the Republicans is that they were not getting any.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at December 12, 2025 01:22 PM (uxVjF)

250 225 BREAKING: Nicki Minaj DECIMATES Gavin Newsom for saying "I want to see trans kids"

She killed 1/10 of him? The other 9/10s remain dangerous, no doubt, shambling on.

Posted by: Bobby Hugbox

Because the meaning of words must be fixed in stone and may never, ever change.
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 01:14 PM (77rzZ)

They can also be misused.

But that's not really the point. The point is that this kidspeak ALLCAPS clickbait phrasing, whether DECIMATES or DESTROYED or SOMETHING ELSE is really dumb. You click on those kind of links and it's always someone who's just disagreeing with someone else in sneering Daily Show fashion without any substance. I don't disagree with what Minaj said here, but there's nothing particularly insightful or devastating about what she said. No one's mind has been changed. It's just some seals clapping on the Internet.

TL;DR version: If a solar flare destroys modern life, I won't miss this kind of inanity.

Posted by: Bobby Hugbox at December 12, 2025 01:22 PM (C24tU)

251 There are infinite rationalizations to comply with the imaginary imperatives the Legal Cult has invented, and they lead to where we are today. Administration has a choice to be either a speed bump, or a change in direction.
Posted by: rhomboid
=====
That is a Crossing the Rubicon situation and you have to consider then what will be done in a future Democrat administration.

The problem, I think, is that our ruling elite now simply are done with popular democracy and taking them on is about on par with Caesar facing the decaying Roman Republic's Senate diktats.

It is actually far easier to replace an individual tyrant than a system of tyranny unless you want to go Sulla on them. Proscriptions are required and taking their generational wealth away from them.

Then any such ruler will never be able to sleep without one eye open.

Cromwell had it easier. He only had the Royalists to fight. The Roman Civil War after Caesar died was much more prolonged and arguably act 1 happened when Sulla and his co ruler duked it out.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 01:23 PM (WDjG6)

252 "I'm proud of that. I believe in universal health care."

--

Then you're going on it too, you greasy sack of garbage. Not some special, carved out elite plan. The same damned one you want to herd the unwashed masses into.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 12, 2025 01:24 PM (qBdHI)

253 So a space alien comes into the ER with a broken arm.
Doctor says: "Well at least you still have 5 good ones."

Posted by: wth at December 12, 2025 01:24 PM (v0R5T)

254 219 Waaaay back, Nat Lamp proposed 'Running Amok' as an Olympic event. They opined that the Turks would be a shoo-in.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 12, 2025 01:07 PM

How about 'Jumping to Conclusions'? I'd watch that.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

No love for dildo tossing?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 01:12 PM (77rzZ)

https://youtu.be/9BkwnGq2yaA

New Olympic sport?...fast forward to 1:30 after the first minute...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 01:28 PM (ynpvh)

255 And what bothered the Republicans is that they were not getting any.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus)
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Eh, plenty of them actually did which is why it wasn't repealed. Big Hospital, Big Pharma (headed by former GOP Rep. Billy Tauzin), and Big Insurance all got a piece of the turkey and that continued throughout today via campaign contributions, etc. Look up Bill Cassidy's campaign contributions for example among others.

The medicine industrial complex (17.6 pct GDP) makes our defense complex (3.3) look weak politically and financially. Even the education complex is only at (5.4 pct).

American public got the bones and scraps of that spending.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 01:30 PM (WDjG6)

256 For the left, the concept of lying is not dependent on whether or not someone tells the truth.

For the left, the concept of lying is wholly dependent upon the political convenience of the moment.

That's why they are unbothered by our continual exposures of and accusations of their hypocrisy. All that means literally nothing to them. Their only cause for anything and everything boils down to "is it presently convenient?"

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at December 12, 2025 01:55 PM (bufu1)

257 aahhh, so ~biden~ closed the border and reduced immigration to a trickle without congressional help. i was way off. trunk inherited a solved problem.

Posted by: cmeat at December 12, 2025 04:04 PM (R11M+)

The “Affordability Crisis” - Home Prices and Apartment Rents Are Decreasing as Deportations Increase

Vacancies - Lots of Vacancies.png

Let’s talk some more about the “affordability crisis” that the media and President Trump’s critics are hammering him about. As I keep mentioning, it is a ridiculously unfair argument that because overall prices haven’t deflated from the runaway inflation of the Biden-era, Trump is to blame.

But some prices are actually coming down. As Ace and I have been discussing, gasoline prices are historically low thanks to Trump’s drill-baby-drill energy policy.

But the largest item in most household budgets is the mortgage or rent. So how are those prices doing? They’re coming down too.

“Home Prices Are Poised to Dip in 22 U.S. Cities Next Year, a New Analysis Says” [CBS News – 12/04/2025]

This piece mentions that inventory of homes has expanded, which would certainly impact the supply/demand equation, and that prices are returning “back down to earth” following the “frenzy” of the Covid-era.

But it also mentions that some of these metropolitan areas simply have “lighter demand” now than in recent years. Interesting. It’s almost as if there is some other force affecting supply and demand of housing units if there is suddenly lighter demand for housing.

Rental housing is also seeing rents drop and vacancies rise:

“Rent Decline Deepens as Vacancy Rates Hit Record High” [CRE Daily – 12/04/2025]

Per this article, the median national rent payment is declining, including 1% in just the past month alone. In some places the decrease is quite significant. For instance, in Austin the median rent has decreased by 6.8% in the past year. Meanwhile, the national vacancy rate for multi-family properties (e.g. apartments) just hit a record high in November, with 7.2% of units unleased.

This article offers some explanations for the decline in rents and the glut of unleased apartments, including a cooling labor market, and hundreds of thousands of new housing units coming online in the past year.

Yes, new units becoming available for lease certainly is an input into the supply/demand equation, but even in a cooling labor market, people need a place to live.

Again, it just seems that there might be another force at work here that is not being discussed.

Oh…

“Trump's second term sees 2.5 million illegal aliens leave, shattering historic records” [CBS Austin – 12/11/2025]

The Department of Homeland Security announced on Wednesday that an estimated 2.5 million illegal aliens have left the country since the start of President Donald Trump’s second term.

Over 600,000 aliens have been deported and another 1.9 million have self-deported. Those 2.5 million people were occupying a lot of housing that is now competing for new tenants.

The “affordability crisis” is a term being thrown around by those who want to sabotage the Trump presidency and help Democrats defeat Republicans in the mid-terms next November. But by causing millions of illegal aliens to depart the country, the Trump administration is actually taking powerful action to reduce the cost of housing and shelter. Coincidentally, most of the NeverTrump critics trying to kneecap the Trump agenda with the “affordability” issue are hell-bent on stopping deportations and throwing the border back open to illegal labor.

Those people parroting the “affordability crisis” talking points need to be challenged to admit that Donald Trump’s deportations and closed border are bringing down the cost of housing.

Reducing the cost of housing is the highest priority when talking about “affordability,” and President Trump’s policies are making it happen.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM




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1 St?

Posted by: Clay at December 12, 2025 11:00 AM (rIjnE)

2
ESPONJA!!!1!!11

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 12, 2025 11:00 AM (tljrc)

3 1st?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:00 AM (77rzZ)

4 Nyet.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:00 AM (77rzZ)

5 Those people parroting

Hey don't blame us, it's still $20 same as in town.

Posted by: parrots at December 12, 2025 11:02 AM (Kt19C)

6 Morning.

When does my rent go down? I want my rent to go down.

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 11:02 AM (1Yy3c)

7 You know what I want
You know what I ne ne ne need.

Posted by: Jesse Duplantis at December 12, 2025 11:02 AM (y3u3n)

8 The critics want a third world country?

Move to Venezuela.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 12, 2025 11:04 AM (MeJZi)

9 I keep seeing the 1.6M self-deportations figure, but no explanation as to its origin. I'd say a bit of caution is in order.

From Buck's cite:

the number of illegal immigrants who have self-deported is just an estimation as a vast majority of migrants leaving without informing the government. At President Donald Trump’s six-month mark in office, the Department of Homeland Security reported 150,000 deportations with a combined total of 1.6 million illegal immigrants having left the country. However, DHS only recorded roughly 13,000 migrants who have self-deported. These self-deportations were tracked by the CBP Home App created by the Department, which gave illegal immigrants a free flight and a $1,000 bonus for leaving the country.

https://is.gd/Gi0Smo

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 11:04 AM (Riz8t)

10 Robert

Probably when Tres de Aragula moves in

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 12, 2025 11:06 AM (MeJZi)

11 At this point one should assume that everyone is pushing a narrative until proven otherwise. The reason this is the only place I post is because I recognize people here, and even if I disagree with them, I know that they are just eyore-ish naturally and aren't a Nigerian bot or a paid Indian posting disinfo. Add to this the inability of Dims or 'principled' Never-Trumpers to ever admit their true motivations, and you get an internet filled with bilge.

Posted by: The Lower Depths at December 12, 2025 11:06 AM (Dg7ng)

12 Our home in Western WA dropped $6000 in the last month according to Zillow. We purchased it in 2000 for $350k, it now lists between 1M - 1.3M. Time to sell and move to the southwest where it rarely rains.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 12, 2025 11:06 AM (abIsI)

13 Goddammit. Iowahawk nearly made me choke on my coffee.

https://xcancel.com/iowahawkblog/. status/1999174078012248080

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 11:07 AM (1Yy3c)

14 Willowed:
So, I look him up and, he's just released a new movie!

Buuuuut, almost all of the critics, straight up hate it, which makes me wonder if he somehow violated some libtardian principle and that set their hair on fire.

Christian Toto gives it a middling recommendation, so we may go see it. Maybe no. Just wait for streaming.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2025 10:52 AM (iJfKG)

I will never quite understand this Brooks' popularity.

I mean, Broadcast News is fine. But, little more than that. And Hollywood loved him, and his movies made good money.

They always feel very middling to me, though I don't think I've seen As Good As It Gets all the way through.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 10:54 AM (GBKbO)


Ah, well. De gustibus and all that.

His writing is generally great. And I think his great gift is to make people feel"smart" for lack of a better word, while watching his movies filled with articulate people who still feel real, and you get to ride along.

He kind of reminds me of Paddy Chayefsky in that regard, except Ol Pads give you screaming drama instead of Ol Brooke's light comedy.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2025 11:08 AM (iJfKG)

15 I've been blown.

Posted by: The Margins at December 12, 2025 11:08 AM (Y1sOo)

16 Probably when Tres de Aragula moves in
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 12, 2025 11:06 AM (MeJZi)

Oh no...the cartels have gone full vegan!

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 11:08 AM (1Yy3c)

17 Amazing... jettison the layabout illegals who were occupying otherwise rentable or saleable properties and the housing market cools and becomes affordable.

How... odd.

- experts everywhere -

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 12, 2025 11:08 AM (NwnyJ)

18 Again, it just seems that there might be another force at work here that is not being discussed."

Let's not forget the gub's influence pushing for more multi family units, especially in those Reich wing suburbs...

Posted by: man at December 12, 2025 11:09 AM (XuXeR)

19 Free or subsidized housing for parasitic people would drive up prices and decrease availability of residences. You may be on to something Master Throckmorton.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2025 11:10 AM (pDt9x)

20 Interesting. It’s almost as if there is some other force affecting supply and demand of housing units if there is suddenly lighter demand for housing.

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Coincidentally, there have been numerous reports nationwide of less dogs and cats being eaten.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 11:10 AM (25a1J)

21 https://xcancel.com/iowahawkblog/. status/1999174078012248080
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus

I get a "Page not found."

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:11 AM (77rzZ)

22 Not saying this to upset anyone but I can't even quantify how much I hated As Good As It Gets.

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 11:11 AM (/+FOE)

23 Please deport the Somalian welfare teat suckers from Columbus. Should help rental prices there.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 11:11 AM (Dv3i1)

24 I get a "Page not found."

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:11 AM (77rzZ)

Take out the space and the period

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 11:11 AM (/+FOE)

25 Unless you own your own place and pay a mortgage, rent is the biggest scam and blight in our social existence.

Profit is one thing, homelessness is another. Do you hate your fellow man, a working citizen in the country we all love, enough to deny him a dwelling?

Interesting dilemma. YMMV.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 12, 2025 11:11 AM (1zOXE)

26 I'm blessed to not have a mortgage but Colorado policies (thanks wino moms) have made the property insurance costs crazy high. I think they made a rule for homes that the insurance company has to pay cost to replace the home instead of keeping it the home owners responsibility to pay attention and increase $ coverage as needed after the Superior fire in 2021 a few years ago left a lot of owners unable to rebuild what with Boulder county imposing costly regulations plus construction supplies still feeling a covid pinch. The people who lost their homes get no help from this after the fact rule, it just raises insurance prices. And of course illegals on the road, and the general commie mindset of "if I do something stupid and get hurt someone needs to give me $$$$" make car and liability insurance expensive.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 12, 2025 11:12 AM (hhkIi)

27 22 Not saying this to upset anyone but I can't even quantify how much I hated As Good As It Gets.
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It was the one and only time I ever watched a movie solely because other people I was acquainted to and not friends with gushed about how good it was. I found it a real chore to get through. After that I always assume that normie recommended films are shit and avoid them.

Posted by: The Lower Depths at December 12, 2025 11:13 AM (Dg7ng)

28 22 Not saying this to upset anyone but I can't even quantify how much I hated As Good As It Gets.
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Is it because the actress who plays the lady who uses a hammer to break the writer's ankles gets naked in a hot tub in this movie?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 11:13 AM (Dv3i1)

29 22 Not saying this to upset anyone but I can't even quantify how much I hated As Good As It Gets.
Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 11:11 AM (/+FOE)

Uncountably Terrible.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2025 11:13 AM (Vq1pX)

30 I get a "Page not found."
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:11 AM (77rzZ)

https://tinyurl.com/Pagentfound

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 11:13 AM (1Yy3c)

31 Posted by: Anna Puma at December 12, 2025 11:06 AM (MeJZi)

Hi Anna!

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 11:14 AM (/+FOE)

32 The trend of affordability is good news here. Maybe I can move up from this water heater carton to a full-size refrigerator carton before Spring!

Posted by: Wonderful Wino at December 12, 2025 11:14 AM (oftw2)

33 Not saying this to upset anyone but I can't even quantify how much I hated As Good As It Gets.
Posted by: ...

Is that the one with Nicholson and Helen Hunt?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:14 AM (77rzZ)

34 Probably when Tres de Aragula moves in
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 12, 2025 11:06 AM (MeJZi)

Oh no...the cartels have gone full vegan!
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 11:08 AM


Forget fentanyl, gringo, have you seen the price of arugula lately?

Posted by: TdA at December 12, 2025 11:15 AM (kgE5c)

35 As I keep mentioning, it is a ridiculously unfair argument that because overall prices haven’t deflated from the runaway inflation of the Biden-era, Trump is to blame.
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While that is absolutely correct and true, it is also beyond the grasp of most people. I've been seeing this for over 50 years. They are unshakably convinced that ending inflation entails lowering prices.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 12, 2025 11:15 AM (s0JqF)

36 Not saying this to upset anyone but I can't even quantify how much I hated As Good As It Gets.
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Is it because the actress who plays the lady who uses a hammer to break the writer's ankles gets naked in a hot tub in this movie?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 11:13 AM (Dv3i1)


Wrong movie. Isn't that something like "About Schmidt"?

But, yeah, AS is a terrible movie.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2025 11:15 AM (iJfKG)

37 I agree with all of this, of course millions of illegals plopping down in the US are going to effect rental and housing prices. Especially entry level ones. Add in groceries , food prices, cars, social services, energy etc.

But when you're talking about say 1-2% decrease in rent, I think more needs to be done on this front.

I keep saying that conservatives need to be more "populist" when it comes to Wall Street's newfound love of single family housing and owning rental properties. Also, wrangle in the short term rentals. So many starter houses have been gobbled up by investors. Make this a less appealing investment and watch a huge amount of inventory become available.

Posted by: Leupold at December 12, 2025 11:15 AM (eIzlH)

38 Not saying this to upset anyone but I can't even quantify how much I hated As Good As It Gets.
Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 11:11 AM (/+FOE)

Wails...gnashes teeth...rends garments...
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Is it because the actress who plays the lady who uses a hammer to break the writer's ankles gets naked in a hot tub in this movie?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 11:13 AM (Dv3i1)

I think you're thinking of About Schmidt. As Good As It Gets has a very delicious Helen Hunt who also happens to be in a (tasteful) state of undress.

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 11:16 AM (1Yy3c)

39 Please deport the Somalian welfare teat suckers from Columbus. Should help rental prices there.
Posted by: Chuck Martel

And turns from the extreme left lane on I270 to the northbound ramp of I71 after they have come to a complete dead stop.

They destroyed more than a few of the Westerville schools.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2025 11:16 AM (cYBz/)

40 Is it because the actress who plays the lady who uses a hammer to break the writer's ankles gets naked in a hot tub in this movie?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 11:13 AM (Dv3i1)

OMG I hated that one too!!!!

Are they not the same movie?

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 11:16 AM (/+FOE)

41 the number of illegal immigrants who have self-deported is just an estimation as a vast majority of migrants leaving without informing the government.

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I wonder if there's a way at the macro level to analyze the rate of decline in "remittances" to their home countries as a factor in helping to better determine the estimates of self-deportations?

Where's Elon and DOGE when you need them?

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 11:16 AM (25a1J)

42 At WaPo: "Robot smaller than grain of salt can ‘sense, think and act’"

Saltgrain-Sized Robot thought balloon: "Welp, this sucks balls."

Also at WaPo, news everybody can use: "Boxed wine is a pro move for holiday parties."

Posted by: gp at December 12, 2025 11:16 AM (GHIyr)

43 Is that the one with Nicholson and Helen Hunt?
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:14 AM (77rzZ)


yes.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2025 11:16 AM (iJfKG)

44 If housing prices come down, we may not need a cut in the Fed rate.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 11:17 AM (rbvCR)

45 I looked up the movie under discussion. Nearly 30 years old. Nice cast. All of them still alive, I think. Doesn’t Nicholson have dementia now?

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2025 11:17 AM (pDt9x)

46 Housing prices dropping...Isn't that one of the supposed goals of the Left? They should be cheering, right?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:17 AM (ynpvh)

47 Is this a movie thread already?? I can’t afford to go to the movies anymore… affordability crisis….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 12, 2025 11:17 AM (YobFY)

48 Is that the one with Nicholson and Helen Hunt?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:14 AM (77rzZ)

I think so

I genuinely confuse it with About Schmidt but I didn't like either one. It may be that I hated About Schmidt, and As Good As It Gets was just one I didn't like. I don't know anything anymore.

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 11:18 AM (/+FOE)

49 Is this a movie thread already?? I can’t afford to go to the movies anymore… affordability crisis….

I don't go anymore either...donwanna crisis.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 11:18 AM (Riz8t)

50 [snip]

Add to this the inability of Dims or 'principled' Never-Trumpers to ever admit their true motivations, and you get an internet filled with bilge.

Posted by: The Lower Depths at December 12, 2025 11:06 AM (Dg7ng)

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True -- and one of the reasons I love this place.

At least our future AI Overlords aren't being "trained" on all that internet bilge ... wait, wut?

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 11:18 AM (25a1J)

51 42 At WaPo: "Robot smaller than grain of salt can ‘sense, think and act’"

Saltgrain-Sized Robot thought balloon: "Welp, this sucks balls."

Also at WaPo, news everybody can use: "Boxed wine is a pro move for holiday parties."

Posted by: gp at December 12, 2025 11:16 AM (GHIyr)

I know someone, for Halloween, dressed up as a box wine. It had wine inside the box and a spigot out front at lower waist height...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:18 AM (ynpvh)

52 As I keep mentioning, it is a ridiculously unfair argument that because overall prices haven’t deflated from the runaway inflation of the Biden-era, Trump is to blame.

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From a purely optics standpoint, Trump vigorously raising tariffs early in his term was not good timing.

The biggest reason Trump got elected was because of the cost of living under Biden.

The tariffs are not responsible for why things are still expensive, but even among friends/family I have that voted Trump, they blame a lot of the new reality of high prices on "tariffs".

Posted by: Leupold at December 12, 2025 11:18 AM (eIzlH)

53 OT: Brady, Giffords and Everytown Join DOJ Against Your 2A Rights

https://tinyurl.com/49ss6cu7

Most gun friendly admin evah!!!

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 12, 2025 11:19 AM (abIsI)

54 Did Nicholson ever not have dementia ?

Posted by: alpine_beer at December 12, 2025 11:20 AM (van9r)

55 When does my rent go down? I want my rent to go down.
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 11:02 AM


At least your rent CAN go down. My mortgage payment isn't going to decrease until I have enough equity to refinance, and that assumes that will make sense at some point. Fortunately, I bought something that I could afford.

Well, pretty much, anyway.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at December 12, 2025 11:20 AM (Zst8M)

56 I wonder if there's a way at the macro level to analyze the rate of decline in "remittances" to their home countries as a factor in helping to better determine the estimates of self-deportations?

Where's Elon and DOGE when you need them?


IIRC, remittances are a very big part of Western Union's business now. The government probably has tried to get the data, but I'm not sure if any kind of legal jeopardy would attach to WU if they complied.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 11:20 AM (Riz8t)

57 Thx Buck. You want to hear commie stubbornness in housing? My home city is the first in upstate NY with rent control. The reasons are 1) a mass influx of idiot leftists from NYC and 2) illegals. There is some ridiculous formula as to when they don't apply. Recently the formula indicated that rent control might no longer be necessary. How deal with it? Consider passing a resolution to ignore the formula.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2025 11:20 AM (D+mpw)

58 53 OT: Brady, Giffords and Everytown Join DOJ Against Your 2A Rights

https://tinyurl.com/49ss6cu7

Most gun friendly admin evah!!!

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 12, 2025 11:19 AM (abIsI)

Obama was very gun-friendly, just not to US Citizens. Mexican Narcos got plenty of Fast-n-Furious guns...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:20 AM (ynpvh)

59 However, DHS only recorded roughly 13,000 migrants who have self-deported. These self-deportations were tracked by the CBP Home App created by the Department, which gave illegal immigrants a free flight and a $1,000 bonus for leaving the country.

https://is.gd/Gi0Smo
Posted by: Archimedes
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This has been correlated with worker numbers from DoL which tracks such things as native versus foreign employment.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 11:21 AM (WDjG6)

60 t WaPo: "Robot smaller than grain of salt can ‘sense, think and act’"

Saltgrain-Sized Robot thought balloon: "Welp, this sucks balls."


Oh, boo hoo.

Posted by: Capsule to be swallowed as a replacement for a colonoscopy at December 12, 2025 11:21 AM (Riz8t)

61 Everyone should have a free apartment, right? The state will pay for it. The energy for said apartment will be free to. Oh, and everyone should have a guaranteed job, and a guaranteed wage, enough to ensure their existence. There may be some inconveniences because of the system, but it is for the common good. Comrade.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2025 11:22 AM (pDt9x)

62 Did Nicholson ever not have dementia ?
Posted by: alpine_beer at December 12, 2025 11:20 AM (van9r)

he was never the same after the lobotomy.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at December 12, 2025 11:22 AM (PSEDc)

63 The movie "ET" sucked and still sucks. There, I said it.

Posted by: Peak Pique at December 12, 2025 11:22 AM (qUkBO)

64 55 When does my rent go down? I want my rent to go down.
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 11:02 AM

At least your rent CAN go down. My mortgage payment isn't going to decrease until I have enough equity to refinance, and that assumes that will make sense at some point. Fortunately, I bought something that I could afford.

Well, pretty much, anyway.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at December 12, 2025 11:20 AM (Zst8M)

My mortgage company keeps calling me and sending me mail trying to entice me to refi with a cash-out. F'em. I've told them time and time again, I don't want to take out equity from my house and end up owing more, and their fees for a refi don't make it worthwhile yet.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:22 AM (ynpvh)

65 Housing costs in my area peeked in spring of this year - before Trump's deportations started.

And this is a core thing - price is highly dependent on demand

So if you remove people that need housing prices will decline.

Supply and Demand.

Now government can ease housing restrictions as well, but people don't generally like that. In my blue area people are constantly complaining about their towns becoming cities. Well idiots if you vote to bring in tens of millions of people they have to live somewhere.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2025 11:22 AM (sKqQm)

66 Goddammit. Iowahawk nearly made me choke on my coffee.

xcancel.com/iowahawkblog/
status/1999174078012248080

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 11:07 AM (1Yy3c)

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I've never heard of "shiplap" before.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 11:22 AM (25a1J)

67 'Reducing the cost of housing is the highest priority when talking about “affordability,” and President Trump’s policies are making it happen.'

Why the scare quotes around "affordability?" Either it's a real problem that Trump's wise policies are fixing, or it's a Dem hoax to be scare-quoted. Pick one.

IMHO, things are not very affordable right now, no scare quotes needed.

Posted by: gp at December 12, 2025 11:22 AM (GHIyr)

68 63 The movie "ET" sucked and still sucks. There, I said it.

Posted by: Peak Pique at December 12, 2025 11:22 AM (qUkBO)

Kumala Whoris played ET?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:22 AM (ynpvh)

69 Well maybe job opportunity will increase as well

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2025 11:23 AM (Ffvt8)

70 I think what's driving the affordability issue more than anything is the spiraling cost of health care, which some in the media probably know but won't really do a deep dive on, since a lot of it's being driven by Obamacare.

Either way, it is a problem, and whatever the pros and cons of the tariff issue, I think (hindsight is 20/20, as always) Trump would have done better to hammer that instead. Though it's an open question whether the GOP would have given him any support.

Posted by: Dr. T at December 12, 2025 11:23 AM (lHPJf)

71 Rent, the play.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2025 11:23 AM (pDt9x)

72 Ironically, controlling Bidenflation raises housing costs in the short term.

Why?

Higher inflation rates mean higher loan rates mean fewer buyers.

So as loan rates go down there are more potential buyers and therefore higher prices.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2025 11:23 AM (sKqQm)

73 The movie "ET" sucked and still sucks. There, I said it.
Posted by: Peak Pique

Yeah, I never understood all the ballyhoo about that flick.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:24 AM (77rzZ)

74 've never heard of "shiplap" before.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 11:22 AM (25a1J)

Tell me you never watched HGTV without telling me you never watched HGTV?

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 11:24 AM (/+FOE)

75 I've never heard of "shiplap" before.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 11:22 AM (25a1J)

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You obviously don't watch HGTV.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 12, 2025 11:24 AM (DRSnL)

76 I've never heard of "shiplap" before.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe

That's the most jarring statement we've ever heard.

Posted by: Chip, Joanna at December 12, 2025 11:25 AM (oftw2)

77 Republicans in Congress have a solution.

They're going to reveal it once they've:
- passed union protections for federal workers
- extended the Obamacare subsidies
- held hearings on whether Santa Clause is a socialist threat
- passed amnesty to speedboat fishermen trying to deliver powdered "fish" to Cuba

Then, and only then, can they get around to helping American citizens.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 11:25 AM (HXT0k)

78 There are a lot of new apartments and homes coming on line in the next 12 months or so. Many were delayed for years during covid. So this is yet another market anomaly the negative effects of which you can blame on covid hysteria.

If you drive around most major cities, you'll see tons of residential construction. At least two new high-rise condos are going up around my place in Manhattan. One in particular I know was delayed 24 months due in part to covid.

These are not totally "new" apartments, as older apartment buildings were knocked down to build these, but they are bigger (more rooms) and almost certainly more high-end.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 11:25 AM (iFTx/)

79 Helen Hunt, the Amy Schumer of Sally Fields.

Posted by: Peak Pique at December 12, 2025 11:25 AM (qUkBO)

80 71 Rent, the play.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2025 11:23 AM (pDt9x)

That was gay as fk, literally. A song extolling the joys of Anal Sex? No thanks. Only watched it because wife wanted to watch it, and afterwards, never again.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:25 AM (ynpvh)

81 The best shiplap is always made of Bamboo. Lush, fast growing sustainable bamboo. Did you know that Bamboo is really grass?

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2025 11:25 AM (pDt9x)

82 From a purely optics standpoint, Trump vigorously raising tariffs early in his term was not good timing.

The biggest reason Trump got elected was because of the cost of living under Biden.

The tariffs are not responsible for why things are still expensive, but even among friends/family I have that voted Trump, they blame a lot of the new reality of high prices on "tariffs".
Posted by: Leupold at December 12, 2025 11:18 AM (eIzlH)

It was a calculated risk; the fastest way to get employment moving up and costs moving down was to rapidly repair the massive trade imbalances between the US and the rest of the world, and shaking everyone up with the tarriffs was by far the fastest way to do that.

But it risked the bad optics, as you say. So whether it pays off or not depends on whether the economy begins to noticably improve. I actually think the chances are very good.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 11:26 AM (uWKK8)

83 But some prices are actually coming down. As Ace and I have been discussing, gasoline prices are historically low thanks to Trump’s drill-baby-drill energy policy.

What does "historically low" mean? Prices are not even back to the low national averages that existed during the Obama Administration and Trump 45 Administration years.

Over 600,000 aliens have been deported and another 1.9 million have self-deported. Those 2.5 million people were occupying a lot of housing that is now competing for new tenants.

That's a great start. But considering there were about 40-50 million illegal aliens in the country -- with I think 10 million brought in under the Biden/Obama Administration from January 2021 to January 2025 -- 2.5 million is only 5% of the total and 25% of what came in under Biden/Obama.

At this rate, we'll only be rid of the 10 million brought in under Biden by the end of President Trump's 2nd term.

Which is good, of course. But not anywhere near sufficient. 100% of illegal aliens need to be deported asap. And if Democrats take over Congress in January 2027 and a MAGA Republican does not win the Presidency in 2028...

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 12, 2025 11:26 AM (P5BPp)

84 I've never heard of "shiplap" before.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 11:22 AM (25a1J)

That's because you are heterosexual and male.

I had to look it up. It's apparently a froo froo term for siding.

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 11:26 AM (1Yy3c)

85 Republicans in Congress have a solution.

They're going to reveal it once they've:
- passed union protections for federal workers
- extended the Obamacare subsidies
- held hearings on whether Santa Clause is a socialist threat
- passed amnesty to speedboat fishermen trying to deliver powdered "fish" to Cuba

Then, and only then, can they get around to helping American citizens.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 11:25 AM (HXT0k)


If by that you mean "issue a strongly worded resolution about the necessity of helping American citizens," then yes.

Posted by: Dr. T at December 12, 2025 11:26 AM (lHPJf)

86 I think what's driving the affordability issue more than anything is the spiraling cost of health care, which some in the media probably know but won't really do a deep dive on, since a lot of it's being driven by Obamacare.

All that free and reduced cost healthcare is paid for by someone. And that's why people that aren't on welfare have seen their costs explode.

Get rid of the free riders and costs will start to go down.

And this is the only significant way, outside of rationing (which Europe does) to bring costs down.

Yes you can lower paperwork (which the government/insurance companies don't want to do). Yes you can mandate price transparency. And some other small things.

But if you want to get prices down for health insurance/health care costs you need to remove all those illegals and reduce the number of Americans getting freebies as well

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2025 11:26 AM (sKqQm)

87 81 The best shiplap is always made of Bamboo. Lush, fast growing sustainable bamboo. Did you know that Bamboo is really grass?

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2025 11:25 AM (pDt9x)

Can you smoke it?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:26 AM (ynpvh)

88 "controlling Bidenflation"

Will there come a point in the next three years when the current administration can finally take responsibility for the current state of the economy?

Posted by: gp at December 12, 2025 11:27 AM (GHIyr)

89 The best shiplap is always made of Bamboo. Lush, fast growing sustainable bamboo. Did you know that Bamboo is really grass?

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2025 11:25 AM (pDt9x)

And very sensual.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 12, 2025 11:27 AM (3h4I5)

90 Everyone should have a free apartment, right? The state will pay for it. The energy for said apartment will be free to. Oh, and everyone should have a guaranteed job, and a guaranteed wage, enough to ensure their existence. There may be some inconveniences because of the system, but it is for the common good. Comrade.
Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2025 11:22 AM (pDt9x)


and we can go down and serenade our political betters with songs like Ol' Man Ribah while they sit on their verandahs and sip mint juleps on those sultry summer evenings.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 11:27 AM (rbvCR)

91 What about the trucks and cars that will be back on the market once the former owner has been deported?

Or are we going to hear a lot of whining from TriColor and the idiots that underwrote the sub-prime debt as they demand that our feckless politicians bail them out?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 11:27 AM (rgGn5)

92 I just discovered another beautiful ginger actress, whom I had never heard of before: Sarah Rafferty. Yum.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:27 AM (77rzZ)

93 TJM:

I started to watch your latest vid, saved it to one of my lists due to time constraint.

I have only one thing to say about your vid:

"It's a Wonderful Christmas Suit"

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2025 11:27 AM (dCxaZ)

94 84 I've never heard of "shiplap" before.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 11:22 AM (25a1J)

That's because you are heterosexual and male.

I had to look it up. It's apparently a froo froo term for siding.

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 11:26 AM (1Yy3c)

Shiplap is to ships as Rocky Mountain Oysters are to oysters...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:27 AM (ynpvh)

95 75 I've never heard of "shiplap" before.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 11:22 AM (25a1J)
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You obviously don't watch HGTV.
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 12, 2025 11:24 AM (DRSnL)

funny, I lived in a house with shiplap siding for 20 years or therabouts.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 11:28 AM (uWKK8)

96 I just discovered another beautiful ginger actress, whom I had never heard of before: Sarah Rafferty. Yum.

She was in Suits, but she never did much for me.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 11:28 AM (Riz8t)

97 My understanding also over the past decade (seemed to start with the Covid PsyOps but likely was even decades before that) what contributed much to skyrocketing rentals was the oligopoly asset managers like BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street buying up available homes and turning them into rentals.

Remember the old (Klaus Scwab and WEF?) "You will own nothing and you will be happy" bullshit?

Anyone know if that's still going on?

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 11:29 AM (25a1J)

98 I keep saying that conservatives need to be more "populist" when it comes to Wall Street's newfound love of single family housing and owning rental properties.
Posted by: Leupold
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Deny big institutional investors any tax deduction for interest on single family home mortgages. In a sense, the leverage that large entities get from abnormally low borrowing rates compared with individuals means they have an advantage in offering cash money on homes versus individuals in hot markets.

The other way is have localities strictly regulate rental housing. Most of the landlords like Blackrock are shitty landlords that often buy shitty new development homes that instantly require maintenance--hvac, quality of roofing, plumbing, and other such things are often subpar, which leads in turn to insta slum. Blackrock and others were essentially relying on govt subsidies like Section 8, refugee settlement, and others to fill their insta slums and like a NYC landlord, promptly ignore maintenance to goose their profit.

They enshittify areas pretty quickly while doing the legal bribery and canoodling with developers and local pols. Often affordable housing subsidies as well.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 11:29 AM (WDjG6)

99 I just discovered another beautiful ginger actress, whom I had never heard of before: Sarah Rafferty. Yum.
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:27 AM (77rzZ)


She's no Karen Gillan, but she's alright.

Posted by: Dr. T at December 12, 2025 11:29 AM (lHPJf)

100 Shiplap is a fun word because it has both "shi" and "plap" in it.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 11:29 AM (Dv3i1)

101 That's because you are heterosexual and male.

I had to look it up. It's apparently a froo froo term for siding.
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 11:26 AM (1Yy3c)


That is because you never worked in construction, remodeling or anything that didn't just require sheets of OSB

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 11:29 AM (rbvCR)

102 87 81 The best shiplap is always made of Bamboo. Lush, fast growing sustainable bamboo. Did you know that Bamboo is really grass?

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2025 11:25 AM (pDt9x)

Can you smoke it?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:26 AM (ynpvh)

Of course. Bamboo has a multitude of uses. It might be nature’s perfect plant. Life is like Bamboo, when you think about it. I need you to think about it. Everyone should contemplate Bamboo, its’ nature and purpose.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2025 11:29 AM (pDt9x)

103 The tariffs are not responsible for why things are still expensive, but even among friends/family I have that voted Trump, they blame a lot of the new reality of high prices on "tariffs".

--

I'm no economist, but I'm pretty sure that tariffs don't cause inflation. But that seems to be the leftish/Vichy Republican take.

Posted by: Tortured Eardrum Society at December 12, 2025 11:29 AM (vqA1l)

104 But if you want to get prices down for health insurance/health care costs you need to remove all those illegals and reduce the number of Americans getting freebies as well
Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2025 11:26 AM (sKqQm)

Canada has figured out to lower the cost of health care dramatically!

Kill anyone who gets sick.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 11:29 AM (uWKK8)

105 Go, Greased Lightnin', you're coasting through the shiplap trials...

Posted by: Bad Andrew at December 12, 2025 11:29 AM (MSlZp)

106 I've never heard of "shiplap" before.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 11:22 AM (25a1J)

That's because you are heterosexual and male.


Right? Men, real men, do clinker built (overlapping).

Posted by: Vikings at December 12, 2025 11:29 AM (Riz8t)

107 What about the trucks and cars that will be back on the market once the former owner has been deported? . . .
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure

That reminds me - never, and I mean never, consider a used car previously owned by an Indian person/family. The person offering it for sale will lie about every detail of it including color.

Just saying.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2025 11:30 AM (cYBz/)

108 101 That's because you are heterosexual and male.

I had to look it up. It's apparently a froo froo term for siding.
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 11:26 AM (1Yy3c)

That is because you never worked in construction, remodeling or anything that didn't just require sheets of OSB

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 11:29 AM (rbvCR)

I ain't down with OSB, yeah you know me.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:30 AM (ynpvh)

109 Oh, and everyone should have a guaranteed job

I saw some lefty pol talking about this and the reporter actually did his job once and asked, "Well what if someone doesn't want the job the government offers them?"

And the answer was textbook marxism - "well of course they'd HAVE to take that job."

All these young socialists think they will be a rapper/writer/philosopher for the government aren't going to be happy when they find out they'll be digging ditches.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2025 11:30 AM (sKqQm)

110 I wonder if there's a way at the macro level to analyze the rate of decline in "remittances" to their home countries as a factor in helping to better determine the estimates of self-deportations?

Where's Elon and DOGE when you need them?

IIRC, remittances are a very big part of Western Union's business now. The government probably has tried to get the data, but I'm not sure if any kind of legal jeopardy would attach to WU if they complied.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 11:20 AM (Riz8t)
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It's basically all of WU's business. So much so, that as soon as the recent restrictions on remittances were announced, the company made a splashy announcement that it was (suddenly!) focusing on finding new revenue streams.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 11:31 AM (iFTx/)

111 109 Oh, and everyone should have a guaranteed job

I saw some lefty pol talking about this and the reporter actually did his job once and asked, "Well what if someone doesn't want the job the government offers them?"

And the answer was textbook marxism - "well of course they'd HAVE to take that job."

All these young socialists think they will be a rapper/writer/philosopher for the government aren't going to be happy when they find out they'll be digging ditches.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2025 11:30 AM (sKqQm)

Wasn't the quote "a remunerative job"?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:31 AM (ynpvh)

112 That reminds me - never, and I mean never, consider a used car previously owned by an Indian person/family. The person offering it for sale will lie about every detail of it including color.

Just saying.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2025 11:30 AM (cYBz/)


I assume we're talking IT here, not casino.

Posted by: Dr. T at December 12, 2025 11:31 AM (lHPJf)

113 Shiplap is to ships as Rocky Mountain Oysters are to oysters...

It's a perfectly good method for building wooden boats but that ain't it in the picture of Tucker.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 12, 2025 11:32 AM (3nLb4)

114 Posted by: Chip, Joanna at December 12, 2025 11:25 AM (oftw2)

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I wish you two would eff off already.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 12, 2025 11:32 AM (DRSnL)

115 >>>Everyone should have a free apartment, right? The state will pay for it. The energy for said apartment will be free to. Oh, and everyone should have a guaranteed job, and a guaranteed wage, enough to ensure their existence. There may be some inconveniences because of the system, but it is for the common good. Comrade.

Posted by: tubal

>I like your thinking, Comrade. You may have free reign on my daughter and wife as well. A good citizen is a mindless, compliant citizen.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 12, 2025 11:32 AM (1zOXE)

116 German shiplap is the classiest siding ever, by the way

By the way, that isn't shiplap, that is beadboard.

BEADBOARD David, get your s___ together!

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 11:32 AM (rbvCR)

117 Anyone know if that's still going on?
Posted by: ShainS
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Yes. But in part because they relied on a raft of government subsidies and low cost capital to house new illegals, refugees, and Section 8 and getting breaks on zoning, etc. via affordable housing mandates.

And they are proving to be shit landlords skimping on maintenance, screwing average people on payments, late fees, etc., and so on. Basically just like big airlines degraded flying, big Tech degraded customer support, and so on.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 11:32 AM (WDjG6)

118 "Interesting. It’s almost as if there is some other force affecting supply and demand of housing units if there is suddenly lighter demand for housing. "

I thought Dems scheming, price controls and screaming about affordability or whatever is what set prices.

Posted by: Ripley at December 12, 2025 11:32 AM (GUOwU)

119 109 Oh, and everyone should have a guaranteed job

I saw some lefty pol talking about this and the reporter actually did his job once and asked, "Well what if someone doesn't want the job the government offers them?"

And the answer was textbook marxism - "well of course they'd HAVE to take that job."

All these young socialists think they will be a rapper/writer/philosopher for the government aren't going to be happy when they find out they'll be digging ditches.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2025 11:30 AM (sKqQm)

Cleaning shitters is not their dream? Oh well, there’s always Walmart stocker gig to aspire to.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2025 11:32 AM (pDt9x)

120 I understand that bamboo is damn near impossible to eradicate once it becomes established.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:33 AM (77rzZ)

121 120 I understand that bamboo is damn near impossible to eradicate once it becomes established.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:33 AM (77rzZ)

Sounds like commies in government...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:33 AM (ynpvh)

122 Decreasing number of illegal aliens. Lowering housing costs and increasing wage. Obviously not related. 🤣

Posted by: MacRadDoc at December 12, 2025 11:33 AM (+OjEW)

123 I understand that bamboo is damn near impossible to eradicate once it becomes established.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:33 AM (77rzZ)

Sounds like commies in government...


And superhero movies.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 11:34 AM (Riz8t)

124 IIRC, remittances are a very big part of Western Union's business now. The government probably has tried to get the data, but I'm not sure if any kind of legal jeopardy would attach to WU if they complied.
Posted by: Archimedes

They don't have much of a choice. Fincen regulations are pretty broad. It is just that the Eye of Donald has not turned toward remittances yet. Bessent though has them on his radar scope.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 11:34 AM (WDjG6)

125 It's basically all of WU's business. So much so, that as soon as the recent restrictions on remittances were announced, the company made a splashy announcement that it was (suddenly!) focusing on finding new revenue streams.

Second look at telegrams?

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 11:34 AM (Riz8t)

126 122 Decreasing number of illegal aliens. Lowering housing costs and increasing wage. Obviously not related. 🤣

Posted by: MacRadDoc at December 12, 2025 11:33 AM (+OjEW)

Sounds like a disaster for GOPe and Dems...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:34 AM (ynpvh)

127 It's basically all of WU's business. So much so, that as soon as the recent restrictions on remittances were announced, the company made a splashy announcement that it was (suddenly!) focusing on finding new revenue streams.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 11:31 AM (iFTx/)


The other part of it is that Jamie Dimon just admitted that JPMorgan Chase is using Crypto and Bitcoin to do bank transfers now. Very large transfers that don't use SWIFT.

Crypto means WU has no real role in the banking world.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 11:35 AM (rbvCR)

128 80
‘ Only watched it because wife wanted to watch it, and afterwards, never again.’

I let my wife watch that one on her own.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 12, 2025 11:35 AM (jbnUc)

129 120 I understand that bamboo is damn near impossible to eradicate once it becomes established.
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:33 AM (77rzZ)

Bamboo, like Life, will find a way. Bamboo has purpose, and is steadfast. We should model our lives on the Bamboo Model.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2025 11:35 AM (pDt9x)

130 Wasn't the quote "a remunerative job"?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:31 AM (ynpvh)

I'm convinced that certain words aren't meant to be spoken out loud. "Remunerative" is such a fucking clunker that it only looks intelligent written out but trying to say it makes the speaker look like a pretentious dolt.

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 11:35 AM (1Yy3c)

131 Hey, Landlord! was a 1966-67 TV series starring Will Hutchins, Sandy Baron, Michael Constantine, and the luscious Pamela Rodgers. I really liked it, but not enough USAmericans agreed with me. It was Garry Marshall's first series.

Posted by: TV Hall of Fame at December 12, 2025 11:35 AM (oftw2)

132 Crypto means WU has no real role in the banking world.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 12, 2025 11:35 AM (rbvCR)

COCKSUCKAHH!!!

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 11:35 AM (/+FOE)

133 They don't have much of a choice. Fincen regulations are pretty broad. It is just that the Eye of Donald has not turned toward remittances yet. Bessent though has them on his radar scope.
Posted by: whig

Sounds vaguely like Tolkein. Is Schiff carrying the Ring of Impeachment to Mt. Roberts in this analogy?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 11:36 AM (Dv3i1)

134 99 As much as I love gingers, I've never gotten the Karen Gillan thing. She's cute enough, but just doesn't push my buttons.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:36 AM (77rzZ)

135 123 I understand that bamboo is damn near impossible to eradicate once it becomes established.

Posted by: Bulg
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Only have it in containers. It spreads underground and requires massive effort to keep it from spreading including digging trenches around a grove and putting barriers around it.

If you keep cutting it down and killing it when new shoots emerge with brush killers, it can also do it over a long period of time.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 11:36 AM (WDjG6)

136 Doesn’t Nicholson have dementia now?

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2025 11:17 AM (pDt9x)

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Does he still sit courtside at Lakers home games with the rest of the glitteratti?

And is Queen LeBron still playing for them and taking it up the ass from Chairman "Winnie The Pooh" Xi? /rhetorical

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 11:36 AM (25a1J)

137 128 80
‘ Only watched it because wife wanted to watch it, and afterwards, never again.’

I let my wife watch that one on her own.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 12, 2025 11:35 AM (jbnUc)

I knew nothing about it beforehand. Afterwards, I was, "What in the name of all that's Good and Virtuous was that hell I just watched?"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:37 AM (ynpvh)

138
I get a "Page not found."
Posted by: Bulg


Remove the space and the adjacent period

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 12, 2025 11:37 AM (xG4kz)

139 Receptionist: How do you write women so well?

Melvin Udall: I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.

Posted by: As Good As It Gets at December 12, 2025 11:37 AM (P5BPp)

140 133 They don't have much of a choice. Fincen regulations are pretty broad. It is just that the Eye of Donald has not turned toward remittances yet. Bessent though has them on his radar scope.
Posted by: whig

Sounds vaguely like Tolkein. Is Schiff carrying the Ring of Impeachment to Mt. Roberts in this analogy?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 11:36 AM (Dv3i1)

Yes. The Trump though, he is Tricksey, Precious.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2025 11:37 AM (pDt9x)

141 I've never heard of "shiplap" before.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 11:22 AM (25a1J)

Work in home improvement and you'll start shooting anybody who mentions it. lol

Its what I call trendy ugly.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 12, 2025 11:37 AM (snZF9)

142 I don't know anything anymore.

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 11:18 AM (/+FOE)

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Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 11:37 AM (25a1J)

143 There are varieties of Bamboo that can grow 18" per day in the tropics. The Paolo should have such a problem.

Posted by: Bamboo Shoots at December 12, 2025 11:38 AM (oftw2)

144 81
‘ Did you know that Bamboo is really grass?’

No . I didn’t know that, Mr. Claven. Was that a question on Jeopardy?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 12, 2025 11:39 AM (jbnUc)

145 > I wonder if there's a way at the macro level to analyze the rate of decline in "remittances" to their home countries as a factor in helping to better determine the estimates of self-deportations?
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The bitching and moaning from Mexico's prezzy might not factor the self-deportations, but it sure sounded like it amounted to a whole lot of Mexico's GDP.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 12, 2025 11:39 AM (NwnyJ)

146 Canada has figured out to lower the cost of health care dramatically!

Kill anyone who gets sick.


That is actually an interesting talking point. Canada and every euthanasia enthusiast and abortionist has already endorsed killing people in the name of "health care".

If you are a foreigner or otherwise expecting the public to pick up the medical tab, then you get to pick your "health care" treatment plan from the Euthanasia Menu.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 11:39 AM (pUU4E)

147 As much as I love gingers, I've never gotten the Karen Gillan thing. She's cute enough, but just doesn't push my buttons.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:36 AM (77rzZ)

She is equal parts cute and sexy, that's pretty much it.

She's like if a basket full of puppies was super hot. It's weird now that I put it that way.

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 11:40 AM (/+FOE)

148 144 81
‘ Did you know that Bamboo is really grass?’

No . I didn’t know that, Mr. Claven. Was that a question on Jeopardy?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 12, 2025 11:39 AM (jbnUc)

I learned from Ryan Lizza, Philosopher.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2025 11:40 AM (pDt9x)

149 >>> Not saying this to upset anyone but I can't even quantify how much I hated As Good As It Gets.

I liked all of it but the stupid road trip with gay guy drawing her. One of the last decent grown up romantic comedies. I liked the gay guy, I liked Nicholson obviously relishing playing a detestable person with a secret heart of gold, I liked the dog, and the gay guy getting ticked his dog likes Jack. I liked Helen hunt's storyline. The harried single mom, the gay guy getting beat up, the OCD... There was a realness to the characters' lives that gets sanded off in the fluffy Romantic comedies with the teenyboppers in them. And none of them were woke or perfect. Just people. I miss Hollywood writing just people.

And of course it has one of the funniest exchanges in 90s cinematic history:

-- How do you write women so well?
-- I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.

Posted by: LizLem at December 12, 2025 11:40 AM (gWBY1)

150 147 As much as I love gingers, I've never gotten the Karen Gillan thing. She's cute enough, but just doesn't push my buttons.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:36 AM (77rzZ)

She is equal parts cute and sexy, that's pretty much it.

She's like if a basket full of puppies was super hot. It's weird now that I put it that way.

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 11:40 AM (/+FOE)

Go on...

Posted by: Sam Brinton at December 12, 2025 11:40 AM (ynpvh)

151 @134

>>As much as I love gingers, I've never gotten the Karen Gillan thing. She's cute enough, but just doesn't push my buttons.

Any man that talks about Amy Pond this way, get's a night in the box.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 12, 2025 11:41 AM (XV/Pl)

152 As much as I love gingers, I've never gotten the Karen Gillan thing. She's cute enough, but just doesn't push my buttons.
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:36 AM (77rzZ)


Sigh....
Well, she can certainly push mine.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 11:41 AM (2WIwB)

153 Sam Brinton. Wonder what that Perv is up to? Baggage handler for United?

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2025 11:41 AM (pDt9x)

154
Yes, we haven't a DC is a swamp problem.

What we have is a DC is a bamboo grove problem.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 12, 2025 11:42 AM (xG4kz)

155 * Comment archived for future use *

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 11:37 AM (25a1J)

Click the plus sign in my hash and you'll find out all about future use.

I'm just kidding I just wanted to point out my hash which says it all but not usually on Friday.

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 11:42 AM (/+FOE)

156 I need to stop commenting, I'm driving in heavy traffic right now.

I'M KIDDING! Im kidding I'm kidding I'm kidding.

I'm at home on the shitter.

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 11:42 AM (1Yy3c)

157 Sounds vaguely like Tolkein. Is Schiff carrying the Ring of Impeachment to Mt. Roberts in this analogy?
Posted by: Chuck Martel
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Well Schiff would be more like Saruman in that scenario. But I think the Donald is aware of the issue but is relying on delegation to Bessent right now instead of speaking about it publicly.

Remittances interact with Donald's foreign policy/tariff initiatives with Latin America, India, among other strategic places. JJ had a link to a story about the whole drug trade emanating from Venezuela and likely destabilizing the West Coast of Africa nations like Benin, etc. fueling Muzzie terrorism in Nigeria against Christians, etc.

Venezuela has apparently become a nexus for all sorts of bad cartels and foreign players like Russia, China, and Iran to colonize in the US backyard. Also apparently Venezuelans were still involved in the Smartmatic voting machines which licensed the technology to Dominion which is coming out. Smartmatic (or whatever they call themselves now) managers ares facing prison for bribes in the Philippine Islands regarding elections there as well.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 11:42 AM (WDjG6)

158 In the past eight months, the USA M1 money supply has grown 2.8%. Milton Friedman sez: "There's your inflation, folks."

Posted by: gp at December 12, 2025 11:43 AM (GHIyr)

159
Why are we falling for the Democrats' "affordability" Gaslighting?

We even immediately adopted their stupid buzzword "affordability."

All you need to know is by "affordability," Democrats mean "free." They Have No Plan to "lower costs." Their only "plan" is subsidize Everything.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 12, 2025 11:43 AM (b3HfZ)

160 Posted by: LizLem at December 12, 2025 11:40 AM (gWBY1)

Yeah I realized that it's About Schmidt I despised, and I just didn't like As Good As It Gets. I think.

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 11:43 AM (/+FOE)

161 104 Canada has figured out to lower the cost of health care dramatically!

Kill anyone who gets sick.


in the book moscow 2042, moscow (a city-state in the book) solved its health-care problem by deporting anyone who got sick.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_2042

Posted by: anachronda at December 12, 2025 11:43 AM (v3pYe)

162 85 Republicans in Congress have a solution.

They're going to reveal it once they've:
- passed union protections for federal workers
- extended the Obamacare subsidies
- held hearings on whether Santa Clause is a socialist threat
- passed amnesty to speedboat fishermen trying to deliver powdered "fish" to Cuba

Then, and only then, can they get around to helping American citizens.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 11:25 AM (HXT0k)


If by that you mean "issue a strongly worded resolution about the necessity of helping American citizens," then yes.
Posted by: Dr. T at December 12, 2025 11:26 AM (lHPJf)

There's a reason Johnson kept the House out 6+ weeks - there are more true Ds than true Rs there, and he can't stop discharge petitions when they happen.

Good news is none of the virtue signaling will become law, so it's pointless posturing...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2025 11:43 AM (tOcjL)

163 Speaking of housing vacancies...same holds f true in many cities (i.e. urban shitholes) for business street frontages. Over 60% of the ground level store fronts in a six square block area of downtown Seattle are shuttered. But have the rents come down?
Nope.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 11:43 AM (2WIwB)

164 I'll admit that I've never actually seen Karen Gillan on screen, just internet image searches. Maybe if I actually saw her on screen my opinion of her would be higher.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:44 AM (77rzZ)

165 Since when do Democrats give a shit about people affording stuff? What happened to Obama's energy prices that were going to "necessarily skyrocket"?

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 11:44 AM (/+FOE)

166 I've never heard of "shiplap" before.
Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 11:22 AM (25a1J)

Shiplap is boards with a rabbet facing one way on one edge, and a rabbet facing the other way on the opposite edge, so with adjacent boards the rabbets overlap.

Having said that, the wall in the photo looks like tongue and groove to me.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 11:44 AM (npFr7)

167 Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 11:36 AM (WDjG6)

I have an ornamental bamboo called nandina

it has taken longer for it to do its underground spreading routine, but it definitely is multiplying itself. But I don't mind because the red berries are so beautiful this time of year

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2025 11:44 AM (dCxaZ)

168 Newsweek: Mamdani Effect’ Is Seeing More People Moving to New York, Not Leaving It.

...brokerage firm Olshan Realty reports sales of luxury homes...were up by 31 percent in November compared with October...brokerage Douglas Elliman, reported a similar increase, saying that sales in November were up 25 percent from a month earlier.

And anyone who needs a place despite their politics would want to buy before anyone increases taxes on that transaction. I live in a different city but heard that while visiting.

While I do support many of Mamdanis policy’s, knowing that Cuomo was going to leave if Mamdani won sweetened the deal

If you're the sort of rich that they're talking about, where else are you going to go to live the sort of lifestyle that NYC provides?

His proposed millionaire's surtax is only 2% too. When you're rich enough to be clearing over 1mil annually, a little 2% ain't gonna be enough to offset the benefit of being located in NYC.

We did the same thing in MA with a 5% surtax and surprise, the rich are still here and we funded universal school lunch and a few other things with it.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 12, 2025 11:45 AM (JCZqz)

169 There is a redeeming aspect of "As Good as it Gets". A homosexual was brutally beaten by other homosexuals for no good reason, and this depiction matches reality to a great degree. Leftists have been lying to us for decades that the greatest threat to homosexuals is straight people, but normal people actually tend to leave homosexuals alone.

Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at December 12, 2025 11:45 AM (FMtrg)

170 167 Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 11:36 AM (WDjG6)

I have an ornamental bamboo called nandina

it has taken longer for it to do its underground spreading routine, but it definitely is multiplying itself. But I don't mind because the red berries are so beautiful this time of year

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2025 11:44 AM (dCxaZ)

are the berries edible?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:45 AM (ynpvh)

171 Click the plus sign in my hash and you'll find out all about future use.

I'm just kidding I just wanted to point out my hash which says it all but not usually on Friday.

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 11:42 AM (/+FOE)

FOE = Full Of Excrement?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 12, 2025 11:45 AM (3h4I5)

172 Rapidly declining in birthrates is also going to cause a drop in demand for larger house (4 or more bedrooms) in next few years. Time to sell while there are still families around with three or more kids. I'm selling as soon as my 2nd of three goes off to college in a couple years.

Posted by: Ripley at December 12, 2025 11:45 AM (GUOwU)

173 More money. Less stuff.

Print all the money. Stop making stuff. Import cheap trash you immediately throw into a landfill, and pay for it on your credit card with money that doesn't exist.

Bam.

Inflation.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2025 11:45 AM (Vq1pX)

174 Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:44 AM (77rzZ)

Images do not do the woman justice. There are just some chicks you have to see in motion. Preferably slow motion.

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 11:45 AM (/+FOE)

175
The problem with inflation is that it sets a "New Zero".

So, in theory, things will never go back to the before Biden times.

Three things helping Trump though:
1) A lot of the inflation was caused by trying top destroy the USA's cheap energy and energy production,
Lower energy costs help everything go lower.

2) Massive deportation. A lot of Biden Handlers(?) plan was to drive inflation by immigration. That's being handled though I wish more aggressively.

3) Since Clinton the Democrats have been talking about "solving the debt" through inflation. Because, then we are paying our debts with worthless money. Ha ha ha! The Chinese are getting worthless dollars! Ha ha ha! What about US citizens? Fuck'em! HA HA HA!.
That idea's no longer being used.


Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2025 11:45 AM (iJfKG)

176 FOE = Full Of Excrement?

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 12, 2025 11:45 AM (3h4I5)

It's like you've known me all my life.

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 11:46 AM (/+FOE)

177 There's two types of bamboo: the kind that clusters, and the kind that has rhizomes that grow underground and spread like roots.

The rhizomes are nearly impossible to eradicate once they spread. You have to dig deep trenches around them and and put in heavy plastic as a barrier so they don't spread.

I did my homework and planted the cluster kind of bamboo. Filled in a tough spot in my yard beautifully and quickly, never spread, easy to care for. Loved the look and the low maintenance.

Posted by: LizLem at December 12, 2025 11:46 AM (gWBY1)

178 'All you need to know is by "affordability," Democrats mean "free."'

When Republicans talk about "affordability," they mean "it's never our fault, and we can't fix any problems we inherit anyway."

Posted by: gp at December 12, 2025 11:46 AM (GHIyr)

179 104
‘ Canada has figured out to lower the cost of health care dramatically!

Kill anyone who gets sick.’

Give a man Canadian Healthcare and he’ll have medical care for the rest of his life.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 12, 2025 11:46 AM (jbnUc)

180 I’m really skeptical about the self deportation numbers. It has an air of “jobs saved or created” from the Obama years. How does the govt even know if someone self deported. It’s not like they check in and say “hey ICE just FYI I’m leaving now”. It’s all estimates and guesses which can be inflated easily.

Home prices had to start falling eventually. At some point if nobody can afford a product the product’s price has to adjust. This is Econ 101 stuff.

As for places like Austin or Phoenix a ton of people went there during Covid to escape blue state lockdowns. But then they realized they miss California or Chicago or wherever. And are moving back. Notice the article says Providence is up 5%. That’s the pattern.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 11:46 AM (9iyS+)

181 I'll admit that I've never actually seen Karen Gillan on screen, just internet image searches. Maybe if I actually saw her on screen my opinion of her would be higher.
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:44 AM (77rzZ)

***

Cute smile, red hair of course, and legs that go on for ever and ever!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 11:47 AM (2WIwB)

182 170 167 Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 11:36 AM (WDjG6)

I have an ornamental bamboo called nandina

it has taken longer for it to do its underground spreading routine, but it definitely is multiplying itself. But I don't mind because the red berries are so beautiful this time of year

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2025 11:44 AM (dCxaZ)

are the berries edible?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:45 AM (ynpvh)

Internet says berries contain cyanide, so maybe.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2025 11:47 AM (pDt9x)

183 I just discovered another beautiful ginger actress, whom I had never heard of before: Sarah Rafferty. Yum.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:27 AM

You obviously never watched the series Suits? Her character was excellent in that. And yes, quite yum.

Posted by: As Good As It Gets at December 12, 2025 11:47 AM (P5BPp)

184 182 170 167 Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 11:36 AM (WDjG6)

I have an ornamental bamboo called nandina

it has taken longer for it to do its underground spreading routine, but it definitely is multiplying itself. But I don't mind because the red berries are so beautiful this time of year

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2025 11:44 AM (dCxaZ)

are the berries edible?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:45 AM (ynpvh)

Internet says berries contain cyanide, so maybe.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2025 11:47 AM (pDt9x)

Yum, just like apple seeds!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:47 AM (ynpvh)

185 The other part of it is that Jamie Dimon just admitted that JPMorgan Chase is using Crypto and Bitcoin to do bank transfers now. Very large transfers that don't use SWIFT.

Crypto means WU has no real role in the banking world.
Posted by: Kindltot
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US has already proven it can track blockchain transactions and unwind them if necessary. A lot of the crypto hype was that it was untraceable. It isn't probably for state actors anymore than numbered accounts in the Cayman Islands are safe from monitoring.

I have come to the conclusion that privacy is dead from state actors and most commercial entitites unless you want to live like Ted Kaczynski.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 11:47 AM (WDjG6)

186 “Affordability Crisis”

It'd be amusing and maybe useful to insert a parrot squawking into these NPC OPS.

Posted by: DaveA at December 12, 2025 11:48 AM (FhXTo)

187 lol @ the shiplap retorts.

No, never watched HGTV (killed cable like two decades ago).

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 11:48 AM (25a1J)

188 Oh... and bamboo flooring was all the rage in the 2010s I think. My office redid floors and put some down. It was gorgeous...until movers trucked some dolly's in loaded down with a tin of weight, and left permanent dolly wheel grooves in the bamboo.

Do not recommend as flooring unless you get the really high end stuff.

Posted by: LizLem at December 12, 2025 11:48 AM (gWBY1)

189 162 85 Republicans in Congress have a solution.

They're going to reveal it once they've:
- passed union protections for federal workers
- extended the Obamacare subsidies


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Apparently they're holding the line on the subsidies:

WASHINGTON — The Senate on Thursday rejected legislation to extend Affordable Care Act tax credits, essentially guaranteeing that millions of Americans will see a steep rise in costs at the beginning of the year.

https://tinyurl.com/4etscewj
(AP via Spectrum News)

It seems they've got a backbone somewhere that they pull out on special occasions.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 12, 2025 11:49 AM (6ydKt)

190 186 “Affordability Crisis”

It'd be amusing and maybe useful to insert a parrot squawking into these NPC OPS.

Posted by: DaveA at December 12, 2025 11:48 AM (FhXTo)

Affordability Crisis...
Climate Crisis...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:49 AM (ynpvh)

191 ...brokerage firm Olshan Realty reports sales of luxury homes...were up by 31 percent in November compared with October...brokerage Douglas Elliman, reported a similar increase, saying that sales in November were up 25 percent from a month earlier.


See I always wonder about stats like this. Why wouldn't you compare one Nov to another. Does NYC normally see more sales in Nov then Oct?

But then also...isn't this being driven by the people who want a luxury NYC place getting in before Mammy gets his new taxes?

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2025 11:49 AM (sKqQm)

192 it has taken longer for it to do its underground spreading routine, but it definitely is multiplying itself. But I don't mind because the red berries are so beautiful this time of year

Posted by: kallisto

FWIW, if you have the original strains of heavenly bamboo aka nandina, it will spread more aggressively via new baby nandina. Rose of Sharon is another such.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 11:49 AM (WDjG6)

193 Not just housing. Less traffic. Less demand for electricity and water.

Posted by: MikeN at December 12, 2025 11:50 AM (aw6/b)

194 183 I never even heard of Suits before I looked up the lovely Sarah Rafferty.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:50 AM (77rzZ)

195 Republicans in Nov 2024: "Give us control of the WH and the Congress, and we promise to spend the next four years still blaming every fucking thing that goes wrong on Democrats."

Posted by: gp at December 12, 2025 11:50 AM (GHIyr)

196 It'd be moar amusing and maybe useful to insert a pig squealing.

Posted by: parrots at December 12, 2025 11:50 AM (Kt19C)

197 My MiL, not exactly a bundle of humor,,had the biggest laugh of her life when she saw that we SELL english ivy in this country. It's pervasive garden poison over there, she couldn't believe people here pay for it.

It's be like going to another country and seeing bundles of fire ants for sale.

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 11:51 AM (/+FOE)

198 All those trendy decor items become outdated fast. Keep it simple with traditional items. White kitchens, hardwood floors, etc. The simpler the better. It’s timeless and holds its value.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 11:51 AM (9iyS+)

199 I gotta start looking for health insurance for myself and the kids (technically part-time worker, but haven't worked much since I was laid-off last year and got sick thereafter). Any good ones out there that still exist in Kalifornia?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:51 AM (ynpvh)

200 Its’ a housing thread, its’ a movie thread, its’s a ginger thread, its’s a construction thread. Buck, you laid out a helluva Smorgasbord!

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2025 11:51 AM (pDt9x)

201 Canada has figured out to lower the cost of health care dramatically!

Kill anyone who gets sick.


Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 11:29 AM

Not to mention, kill all the white people.

From this morning's Morning Report:

Free health care for Muslim migrants. Free death for Canadian taxpayers.

Canada’s Euthanasia Kills 96% White People

LINK: https://bit.ly/4pZtI7E

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 12, 2025 11:52 AM (P5BPp)

202 197 My MiL, not exactly a bundle of humor,,had the biggest laugh of her life when she saw that we SELL english ivy in this country. It's pervasive garden poison over there, she couldn't believe people here pay for it.

It's be like going to another country and seeing bundles of fire ants for sale.

Posted by: ... at December 12, 2025 11:51 AM (/+FOE)

Give it to the neighbors you don't like, but eventually it'll end up in your yard...LOL

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:52 AM (ynpvh)

203 No, never watched HGTV (killed cable like two decades ago).
Posted by: ShainS
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HGTV is on in every doctor's office waiting room.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 11:52 AM (WDjG6)

204 >>> I'll admit that I've never actually seen Karen Gillan on screen, just internet image searches.

She was darling in Doctor who. And in the live action Jumanni film, she wears these really tiny safari shirts and is also hilarious. I think a lot of teenage boys fell in love with her in that film.

I love they cast her as the stoic Nebula character in the marvel films. She plays the serious side well, then sneaks in subtle comedic bits (it's not ripe!) that a primarily dramatic actress would have completely missed.

Posted by: LizLem at December 12, 2025 11:52 AM (gWBY1)

205 Yes. But in part because they relied on a raft of government subsidies and low cost capital to house new illegals, refugees, and Section 8 and getting breaks on zoning, etc. via affordable housing mandates.

And they are proving to be shit landlords skimping on maintenance, screwing average people on payments, late fees, etc., and so on. Basically just like big airlines degraded flying, big Tech degraded customer support, and so on.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 11:32 AM (WDjG6)

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Ah, that tracks. Thanks for putting me to some additional knowledge, per usual ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 11:53 AM (25a1J)

206 137
‘ What in the name of all that's Good and Virtuous was that hell I just watched?"’

You watched a musical that a rejected Friends episode : A bunch of assorted young NYC fags singing and whining about rent.

Wasn’t that a great concept for entertainment?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 12, 2025 11:53 AM (jbnUc)

207 then also...isn't this being driven by the people who want a luxury NYC place getting in before Mammy gets his new taxes?
Posted by: 18-1 a

I thought everyone with money was fleeing NYC to Florida.

That’s what Fox News was screaming about. Did it turn out to be bullshit after all? Here’s my shocked face. lol.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 11:54 AM (9iyS+)

208 When I posted that Iowahawk tweeet I didn't expect everyone to start talking about shiplap.

To all the hetero lurkers...I'm so very sorry.

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 11:54 AM (1Yy3c)

209 guaranteeing that millions of Americans will see a steep rise in costs at the beginning of the year.
____

Seems like maybe the Dems did the briar patch thingy on the Reps. I hope the Reps have a plan* for the midterms that blunts the obvious Dem messaging that is coming.


*No, I don't think Congressional Reps have any plans, at least ones that aren't geared towards getting back in the minority where there's money for nothing and the chicks (or boys) are free

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 11:54 AM (Dv3i1)

210 Nandina is called a bamboo, but it is not a true bamboo and does not spread like one. I use Nandina quite a bit in beds, and it is one of the best old time Southern Gardening plants, as it is drought resistant, doesn't mind heat, but doesn't die from cold either.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 12, 2025 11:54 AM (uWKK8)

211
DHS only recorded roughly 13,000 migrants who have self-deported.

Posted by: Archimedes

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I keep saying this 1 million+ number can't be provable or real. If it were true, there would be stories about little Central American towns that are being repopulated, about the Pedros and Marias who are returning to build homes and start businesses with their (SUBSTANTIAL, by local standards) American savings, to tell their stories, blah blah-bo.

Here in California, any change is invisible. I read stories from time to time about classrooms being "empty" as a "chill" settles over Hispanic residents who live in "terror" of budging outside their homes. Similar stories about Mexican groceries and small businesses losing customers who are similarly "terrified" to go outside (how are they eating, one wonders).

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 11:54 AM (1N/bM)

212 206 137
‘ What in the name of all that's Good and Virtuous was that hell I just watched?"’

You watched a musical that a rejected Friends episode : A bunch of assorted young NYC fags singing and whining about rent.

Wasn’t that a great concept for entertainment?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 12, 2025 11:53 AM (jbnUc)

It felt like I contracted AIDS watching that abortion.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 11:54 AM (ynpvh)

213 Everyone should plant Bradford Pear, Japanese Knotweed, and Wild Rose. Two years tops, no one will see your house from the road.

Posted by: Add Some Kudzu, Too. at December 12, 2025 11:55 AM (oftw2)

214 I never even heard of Suits before I looked up the lovely Sarah Rafferty.
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:50 AM (77rzZ)

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I thought everyone had heard of Suits because of Mrs. Prince Harry.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 12, 2025 11:55 AM (DRSnL)

215 "My MiL, not exactly a bundle of humor,,had the biggest laugh of her life when she saw that we SELL english ivy in this country. It's pervasive garden poison over there, she couldn't believe people here pay for it.
Posted by: ..."

It was all over one side of my backyard when I bought my current house. Took three years of tearing out and poison to get rid of it. Do not let it get started because it looks attractive.

Posted by: Ripley at December 12, 2025 11:55 AM (GUOwU)

216 Its’ a housing thread, its’ a movie thread, its’s a ginger thread, its’s a construction thread. Buck, you laid out a helluva Smorgasbord!
Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2025 11:51 AM (pDt9x)
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That's what I love about this place.

We come here for conversations about economics, but we stay here for the bewbs...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 11:55 AM (RnixX)

217 See I always wonder about stats like this. Why wouldn't you compare one Nov to another. Does NYC normally see more sales in Nov then Oct?

That would definitely be the normal way to do it, so when it's done differently, I assume the data doesn't support the pre-determined outcome.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at December 12, 2025 11:56 AM (JCZqz)

218 Free health care for Muslim migrants. Free death for Canadian taxpayers.

Canada’s Euthanasia Kills 96% White People
____

Canada will run out of gingers if this trend continues.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 11:56 AM (Dv3i1)

219 Shitlab? That's butt cancer test, right?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 12, 2025 11:56 AM (mlg/3)

220 a pig squealing.

But I haven't got a fan belt.

Posted by: DaveA at December 12, 2025 11:56 AM (FhXTo)

221 So it's been raining here in Washington State...a dreaded "atmospheric river."
Riiiigggghhhhtttt.
Here's how NBC reports it:
"Amid historic flooding from days of torrential rain, Washington state Governor Bob Ferguson is still waiting for the Trump Administration to approve his request for a disaster declaration. It comes as federal officials canceled a meeting yesterday to potentially downsize FEMA."

Fu*k NBC. What's the story here komrades? The flood? The disaster request? The fact that the guv is still waiting (it had been less than 24 hours from when the report was written)? Or FEMA cancelling a meeting?

This very story demonstrates Ferguson doesn't give a damn about the citizens of the state. Anything to trash Trump huh guv?

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 11:56 AM (2WIwB)

222 I thought everyone had heard of Suits because of Mrs. Prince Harry.
Posted by: Jordan61

Oh, Sparkles was in that? Was she any good?

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:56 AM (77rzZ)

223 I keep saying that conservatives need to be more "populist" when it comes to Wall Street's
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William F. Buckley was a nancy-boy piece of shit.

The country and the Republican Party would have been better off keeping the Birchers and jettisoning Big Business.

Corporatism is no better than communism.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 11:56 AM (HXT0k)

224 Oh, Sparkles was in that? Was she any good?
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:56 AM (77rzZ)

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I haven't watched it, myself.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 12, 2025 11:57 AM (DRSnL)

225 199 I gotta start looking for health insurance for myself and the kids (technically part-time worker, but haven't worked much since I was laid-off last year and got sick thereafter). Any good ones out there that still exist in Kalifornia?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Seems to me that we have an insurance broker here as one of the cobs. Mebbe they can help.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 11:57 AM (WDjG6)

226 HGTV is on in every doctor's office waiting room.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 11:52 AM (WDjG6)

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Aha!

Had to visit an endodontist multiple times over the past year and I noticed it they had something along those lines being broadcast (home & garden -- and also cooking).

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 11:57 AM (25a1J)

227 Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 11:56 AM (HXT0k)

Buckley was controlled opposition. That's all.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:58 AM (77rzZ)

228 I keep saying this 1 million+ number can't be provable or real. If it were true, there would be stories about little Central American towns that are being repopulated, about the Pedros and Marias who are returning to build homes and start businesses with their (SUBSTANTIAL, by local standards) American savings, to tell their stories, blah blah-bo.

Here in California, any change is invisible. I read stories from time to time about classrooms being "empty" as a "chill" settles over Hispanic residents who live in "terror" of budging outside their homes. Similar stories about Mexican groceries and small businesses losing customers who are similarly "terrified" to go outside (how are they eating, one wonders).
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 11:54 AM

Yep. It’s a bullshit number.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 11:58 AM (9iyS+)

229 Good News! The Hotel Jermyn in Pennsylvania has a few more openings after today, (well once we get all the blood & brain tissue cleaned up) Thank You for your Patience in this matter.

Posted by: Penn. Chamber of Tourism at December 12, 2025 11:58 AM (Mr2jk)

230 222 I thought everyone had heard of Suits because of Mrs. Prince Harry.
Posted by: Jordan61

Oh, Sparkles was in that? Was she any good?
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:56 AM (77rzZ)

I saw a handful of episodes. She was competent.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2025 11:58 AM (pDt9x)

231 Seems to me that we have an insurance broker here as one of the cobs. Mebbe they can help.
Posted by: whig

Weird Dave.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:58 AM (77rzZ)

232 Home prices are decreasing everywhere and at all sales price points.
Most Americans largest financial asset is their ho.e. that value is dropping most Americans would not like that to happen
Does Buck think that our shitty economy is also due to fewer hard working migrant home owners leaving ?
Lowest current gas prices are in OK $2.50
1 year ago has prices in Ok were $2.52
When Biden left office. Inflation was less than 3% just as it is now.

People no longer believe in Trump when he days things like he inherited the worst inflation in history or that the economy is doing well.
Prices are dropping but only because people are too worried about JOBS not inflation to buy
Deflation is worse than inflation

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at December 12, 2025 11:58 AM (fZpiI)

233 It felt like I contracted AIDS watching that abortion.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

I think the HOT L BALTIMORE was the forerunner in AIDS-ravaged, urban comedy.

Posted by: With The Fierstein Play-Safe Sex at December 12, 2025 11:58 AM (oftw2)

234 The public understanding is deeply flawed, reflecting the abysmal state of Economics education in the government schools.
Inflation is NOT the phenomenon of prices rising.
It's the phenomenon of debasement of the currency. When the Treasury floods trillions of dollars into the marketplace, each dollar become worth less. Thereby requiring more dollars to purchase goods.
The only was prices come down is if SUPPLY of the products increases.
Blaming higher prices on 'inflation" is like blaming your car engine for stopping when in fact you've run out of gas.

Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at December 12, 2025 11:59 AM (MNCvZ)

235 HGTV is on in every doctor's office waiting room.

Next, on Affordable Starter Homes we have Buffy and Simp who are looking to buy their first home. Buffy, a Only Fans Influencer and Simp, an intern at Arby's Drive through, have a limited budget and have chosen a simple 3200sq ft fixer-upper for only $750k.

Our team has TWO WEEKS before the city inspector come back to lift the red-tag Condemned sign from the door...

Will they be able to make the transformation in time?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at December 12, 2025 11:59 AM (pUU4E)

236 How does the govt even know if someone self deported. It’s not like they check in and say “hey ICE just FYI I’m leaving now”. It’s all estimates and guesses which can be inflated easily.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 11:46 AM (9iyS+)

CBP Home app. They're encouraging illegals to use this to notify the gub'mint of self-deportation. Yes, literally saying, "Hey ICE just FYI I'm leaving now."

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 12:00 PM (1Yy3c)

237 Comparing Nov to Oct is dumb. You compare YOY not MOM. Thats standard in any industry.

It would be like comparing candy sales in Nov vs Oct. gee it fell off a cliff. Wonder why.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 12:00 PM (9iyS+)

238 Thanks Commie Pope Leo!

(LifeSiteNews) — Multiple churches in the United States have staged politically charged Nativity scenes to protest Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) efforts to remove illegal immigrants.

At St. Susanna Catholic Church in Dedham, Massachusetts, the traditional figure of Jesus in the manger was replaced with a sign implying that Jesus would be deported by ICE.

“ICE was here,” reads the sign. “The Holy Family is safe in the Sanctuary of our Church.”

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 12:00 PM (Dv3i1)

239 DHS only recorded roughly 13,000 migrants who have self-deported.

Posted by: Archimedes

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I keep saying this 1 million+ number can't be provable or real. If it were true, there would be stories about little Central American towns that are being repopulated, about the Pedros and Marias who are returning to build homes and start businesses with their (SUBSTANTIAL, by local standards) American savings, to tell their stories, blah blah-bo.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 12, 2025 11:54 AM (1N/bM)
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I tend to agree. I think if over 1.5M people disappeared from this country in 6 months, there would be huge areas in USA that suddenly became ghost towns. Plus, I would think massive chaos at the border as over a million people suddenly fled.

Many parasites have indeed left. You can see the numbers in the employment figures and in easing of some housing and other figures. But 1.5M? I'd love for that to be true, but I'm skeptical.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at December 12, 2025 12:01 PM (iFTx/)

240 >>> This very story demonstrates Ferguson doesn't give a damn about the citizens of the state. Anything to trash Trump huh guv?

I still feel bad that the lefty voters in WA voted in a bunch of gas tax hikes in 2024 "for the children," that raised it like 50 cents. They they already have some of the highest gas prices. So while most other states are seeing a big price drop on gas, WA probably won't.

Sorry Nurse and the other Washingtonians!

Posted by: LizLem at December 12, 2025 12:01 PM (gWBY1)

241 I don't know about ICE holiday displays but I can't find a local church doing a live nativity this year (Catholic anyway). ours ALWAYS has before?!?!

maybe they were like, if we can't do a political protest one we just won't do one or something?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 12, 2025 12:01 PM (emBoF)

242 It would be like comparing candy sales in Nov vs Oct. gee it fell off a cliff. Wonder why.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 12:00 PM (9iyS+)

"I told you people that gravy flavored snickers was a terrible idea!"

-Mars Corp. Executive #54381

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 12, 2025 12:01 PM (Vq1pX)

243 So prices drop when the supply stops being artificially and unlawfully reduced? Huh. Who would have thought.

Posted by: Nobody takes Econ 101 anymore at December 12, 2025 12:02 PM (TbWk/)

244 That reminds me - never, and I mean never, consider a used car previously owned by an Indian person/family. The person offering it for sale will lie about every detail of it including color.
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Never, ever, ever private sale anything to an Arab or an Indian, either.
Doesn't matter what price you agree on, they will always try to change it after you agree.

And, if you hate money, let them test-drive without you being in the vehicle.
Because, they'll drive out of sight, sabotage it somehow, come back and demand you sell it for scrap to them.

So many Americans have no idea just how much a luxury the formerly high-trust society we had was.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 12:02 PM (HXT0k)

245 are the berries edible?
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Internet says berries contain cyanide, so maybe.


All plants are edible. Some of them only once.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 12, 2025 12:03 PM (3nLb4)

246 At St. Susanna Catholic Church in Dedham, Massachusetts, the traditional figure of Jesus in the manger was replaced with a sign implying that Jesus would be deported by ICE.

“ICE was here,” reads the sign. “The Holy Family is safe in the Sanctuary of our Church.”
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 12:00 PM (Dv3i1)

If only Mary had reproductive rights we wouldn't be forced into this conversation.

Posted by: It's fraught! Fraught I tell you! at December 12, 2025 12:04 PM (TbWk/)

247 Seems to me that we have an insurance broker here as one of the cobs. Mebbe they can help.
Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 11:57 AM (WDjG6)

That would be Weird Dave, and he should be hosting the ONT tonight. He is a good man.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2025 12:04 PM (npFr7)

248
Berries aren't berries.

I learned that last week.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 12, 2025 12:04 PM (v6HoO)

249 Will they be able to make the transformation in time?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure

The phony "deadline" makes those shows unwatchable. That and the faggotry.

Posted by: 30K Granite Countertops at December 12, 2025 12:04 PM (oftw2)

250 Less demand, more supply = lower prices.

It's like there's a law or a rule or something that dictates that...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 12:05 PM (xcxpd)

251 238 Thanks Commie Pope Leo!

(LifeSiteNews) — Multiple churches in the United States have staged politically charged Nativity scenes to protest Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) efforts to remove illegal immigrants.

At St. Susanna Catholic Church in Dedham, Massachusetts, the traditional figure of Jesus in the manger was replaced with a sign implying that Jesus would be deported by ICE.

“ICE was here,” reads the sign. “The Holy Family is safe in the Sanctuary of our Church.”

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 12:00 PM (Dv3i1)

I always found that a silly argument. If folks coming here are escaping a gov't that wants to take their lives, they can apply for asylum; those than come here for economic reasons need to do it the proper, legal way, not jump the line and pop out anchor babies once here.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 12:05 PM (ynpvh)

252 212
‘ It felt like I contracted AIDS watching that abortion.’

Second hand AIDS? I hope you get better.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 12, 2025 12:05 PM (jbnUc)

253 Many parasites have indeed left. You can see the numbers in the employment figures and in easing of some housing and other figures. But 1.5M? I'd love for that to be true, but I'm skeptical.
Posted by: Elric The Blade

If employers are sent to jail for employing illegals (and judges don't just dismiss the cases out of spite), we'll see more self-deportations. Also if a high profile deportation happens (take Ilhan Omar, please) that sends a message. Tom Homan is either a front, or is being fettered behind the scenes.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 12:05 PM (Dv3i1)

254 241 I don't know about ICE holiday displays but I can't find a local church doing a live nativity this year (Catholic anyway). ours ALWAYS has before?!?!

maybe they were like, if we can't do a political protest one we just won't do one or something?
Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 12, 2025 12:01 PM (emBoF)

It's rare for Catholic Churches to do a live nativity...only ones I've ever seen or been to (having lived in NJ, AL, TX, OH, and now VA) is at Protestant places...Catholics don't really do the "let's bring in live animals" thing...

So, the fact you ever had a Church that did one surprises me...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 12, 2025 12:06 PM (tOcjL)

255 245 are the berries edible?
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Internet says berries contain cyanide, so maybe.

All plants are edible. Some of them only once.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 12, 2025 12:03 PM (3nLb4)

edible /ĕd′ə-bəl/
adjective

Fit to be eaten, especially by humans.
"edible roots; an edible mushroom."

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 12:06 PM (ynpvh)

256 My family had to move in 1964 when a new owner bought the building in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn in 1964. Rent skyrocketed from $35 to $60 a month!

Posted by: Bay Ridge Refugee Since 1966 at December 12, 2025 12:07 PM (oftw2)

257 So many Americans have no idea just how much a luxury the formerly high-trust society we had was.
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I hate to be the guy to point this out, but a high trust society is not a “luxury” or one of those “nice things to have”. As a society this is no longer discussd.

It isn’t a luxury it is a base prerequisite to achieving and maintaining civilization. It is not possible otherwise. No chance. Get that in your head.

Posted by: Penn. Chamber of Tourism at December 12, 2025 12:07 PM (Mr2jk)

258 248
Berries aren't berries.

I learned that last week.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 12, 2025 12:04 PM (v6HoO)

Well, most things we call berries are aggregates...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 12:08 PM (ynpvh)

259 So, the fact you ever had a Church that did one surprises me...


well they don't have animals tho

the churches here all have schools and the kids love doing them - my kids used to and their schools were private catholic and the girls' school isn't doing it anymore but the boys' is. make of that what you will!

we will check out the boys school if the guys feel like going back there, which they usually do. the two schools are connected but the boys school was eons better than the girls'.. but that's a whole other story

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 12, 2025 12:08 PM (emBoF)

260 William F. Buckley was a nancy-boy piece of shit.

The country and the Republican Party would have been better off keeping the Birchers and jettisoning Big Business.

Corporatism is no better than communism.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 11:56 AM (HXT0k)

I agree. The Birchers at least loved America.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 12:08 PM (xcxpd)

261 Berries aren't berries.

I learned that last week.


There is a whole category of Youtube vids that can be described as "Everyone except me is wrong about [ thing ]."

Posted by: Oddbob at December 12, 2025 12:09 PM (3nLb4)

262 [Friday morning humor:]

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@Sassafrass_84

Well played. 🔥🔥🔥

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Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 12:09 PM (tf+dR)

263 lol maybe a protestant church is doing a live nativity but you know I'm very old school ... was taught not to go there! I think I got approval to go to a Jewish service once but I never could get approval to go to Protestant ones (back when I would ask - we were required to attend Mass weekly when I was in school).

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 12, 2025 12:10 PM (emBoF)

264 I stayed in an Air B&B in San Antonio last summer, and was amazed at the selection of updated small homes available for short term rental near downtown San Antonio and the Pearl.

It seemed to me nearly every home (early 20th century shotguns and bungaloes) where I stayed was either a short term rental or an occupied but "deferred maintenance" dwelling.

When I was ready to start a family 30 years ago, the concept of a "starter home" was something we all talked about. You could get into a good neighborhood with small homes, have your babies, and then move into something nicer when you started making real money in your late 30s.

I'm not sure that option is available to young adults anymore. The ones I talk to do not want to start families while living in a rental.

But the newly built 3BRs are expensive and crappy and remotely located. The older ones close to town are run down or else converted to short term rentals.

I actually got to meet Sec. Scott Turner last spring, who told me HUD was working on low cost home ownership for first time buyers. But it seems like a 10-20 year project and not a 5 year project.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at December 12, 2025 12:10 PM (GD2xa)

265 My husband binge watched Suits, and against my will I'd find myself dragged into the legal and personal storylines and want to find out what's happening. A really good ensemble cast with fun plot lines. Personal developments for the characters without it getting too soapy.

I think it did well on streaming reruns because it's a classic drama, not fancy but solid, and all the newer shows are dreck. It's weird to realize we lost a lot of basic competent storytellers, between the woke and the DEI and the strikes and the covid. The modern woke stuff makes suits look like it's high art.

Markle was trying to act like she was the reason it's done well in streaming. But she's such a minor character that's laughable. She can act a little though; I actually found her character likable, whereas everything about her actual persona is repellant.

Posted by: LizLem at December 12, 2025 12:10 PM (gWBY1)

266 Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Not true. I am in a swing state and yes, students are disappearing from public school rolls, traffic is lighter, rental vacancies are increasing, construction openings are increasing including shutdowns of entire developments in order to recruit new workers, ER wait times are shorter, etc. And aggregate statistics indicate that momentum is happening and the border being secured means the tap is turned off for new ones.

If you live in a blue area in a blue sanctuary state , then you won't see as much of it as blue areas in red states.

Remove the bennies, make employment uncertain, remove the criminals first, but the number are changing and it is really big but so it the US so personal observations are about as useful as figuring the weather you have is the same across the US.

Illegals distribution across the US is lumpy--they stick out in rural areas, not so much in urban and suburban and blue areas. CA,NY, and IL are epicenters of illegals that have been woven into the society of these states with their large ethnic enclaves. If you don't go to those places in your state, you won't see it whether it is waxing or waning.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 12:11 PM (WDjG6)

267 William F. Buckley was a nancy-boy piece of shit.

The country and the Republican Party would have been better off keeping the Birchers and jettisoning Big Business.

Corporatism is no better than communism.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 11:56 AM (HXT0k)

I agree. The Birchers at least loved America.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 12:08 PM (xcxpd)

I kinda halfway agree, but not fully. I think Buckley absolutely believed in conservatism and freedom and thought the new deal was a disaster… I also think he was very smart and good at debate. But… he was too nice or naive in thinking he could just “talk it out” with lefties….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 12, 2025 12:11 PM (/iXAp)

268 Yes you can lower paperwork (which the government/insurance companies don't want to do). Yes you can mandate price transparency. And some other small things.

But if you want to get prices down for health insurance/health care costs you need to remove all those illegals and reduce the number of Americans getting freebies as well
Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2025 11:26 AM (sKqQm)

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Try as I might, I have yet to understand what value health insurance companies bring to the table.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 12, 2025 12:11 PM (Vh9CX)

269 But… he was too nice or naive in thinking he could just “talk it out” with lefties….
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He didn't get the Charlie Kirk treatment, at least.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 12:12 PM (Dv3i1)

270 I think it did well on streaming reruns because it's a classic drama, not fancy but solid, and all the newer shows are dreck. It's weird to realize we lost a lot of basic competent storytellers, between the woke and the DEI and the strikes and the covid. The modern woke stuff makes suits look like it's high art.

Markle was trying to act like she was the reason it's done well in streaming. But she's such a minor character that's laughable. She can act a little though; I actually found her character likable, whereas everything about her actual persona is repellant.
Posted by: LizLem
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Suits, Psych, and Monk are some of the more beloved streaming series and still high in views. All three aired on USA Network.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 12:12 PM (WDjG6)

271 I kinda halfway agree, but not fully. I think Buckley absolutely believed in conservatism and freedom and thought the new deal was a disaster… I also think he was very smart and good at debate. But… he was too nice or naive in thinking he could just “talk it out” with lefties….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 12, 2025 12:11 PM (/iXAp)

I'll agree with that, but deciding to unperson the John Birch Society in favor of Ivy League Businessmen was a bad bargain.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 12:13 PM (xcxpd)

272
Try as I might, I have yet to understand what value health insurance companies bring to the table.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 12, 2025 12:11 PM (Vh9CX)

Pass-throughs for Gov't corruption?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 12:13 PM (ynpvh)

273 I listen to a chap on the radio who was in on the first wave of the house-flipping, HGTV thing from around 2000-08 when it went bust. He says to never let these shows touch your place as they will finish it to look pretty for the cameras and never really complete what you can't see. They are on to the next victim and will never finish it.

Posted by: Fix Your Own Mess at December 12, 2025 12:13 PM (oftw2)

274 Try as I might, I have yet to understand what value health insurance companies bring to the table.

Like casinos, they facilitate the transfer of money from a large group of people to a small group of people and take their cut off the top.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 12, 2025 12:13 PM (3nLb4)

275
Anyone want a slice of delicious DROUPE Pie?

How about a cool bowl of Aggregates?

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 12, 2025 12:13 PM (v6HoO)

276 oh whig we DEFINITELY notice the missing illegales here. for sure!

trouble is we're inundated with legal H1B immigrants ... and that seems to only be increasing ...

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 12, 2025 12:13 PM (emBoF)

277 270

Suits, Psych, and Monk are some of the more beloved streaming series and still high in views. All three aired on USA Network.
Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 12:12 PM (WDjG6)

I am partial to the series “ Chuck”.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2025 12:13 PM (pDt9x)

278 I'll agree with that, but deciding to unperson the John Birch Society in favor of Ivy League Businessmen was a bad bargain.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at December 12, 2025 12:13 PM (xcxpd)

Yes. I think we’re in agreement!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 12, 2025 12:14 PM (/iXAp)

279 "I have yet to understand what value health insurance companies bring to the table."

They are the de facto gatekeepers to the healthcare system. Most doctors simply won't see patients without insurance. This sucks.

Posted by: gp at December 12, 2025 12:15 PM (GHIyr)

280 nood


lum

Posted by: Costanza at December 12, 2025 12:15 PM (3uBP9)

281 Nood Newsome

Posted by: Zeera , Damn Right I voted for all of this! at December 12, 2025 12:15 PM (jvxGE)

282 275
Anyone want a slice of delicious DROUPE Pie?

How about a cool bowl of Aggregates?

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 12, 2025 12:13 PM (v6HoO)

My wife and I used to make some fine Blackaggregate jam. I'd remove the seeds, so just the pulp and juice. I like my jam seed-free.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 12, 2025 12:15 PM (ynpvh)

283 Birchers were declasse’, don’t you know.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2025 12:15 PM (pDt9x)

284 I've been watching Laramie and Cheyenne lately.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 12:16 PM (L/fGl)

285 The William F Buckley vs Gore Vidal debate proves that leftists have been calling the right Nazis forever. Nothing new under the sun.

Buckley was ruled by the media to have lost the debate when he called Vidal a Fag. But Vidal IMO had already sunk too low when he called Buckley a Nazi. Buckley flew into a rage, and while he should have kept his cool I totally understand it.

The best revenge for the right, is that gore Vidal has faded into utter irrelevancy. At one point it was required to have his books on your self if you were a proper lefty. But no one cares about him anymore.

Posted by: LizLem at December 12, 2025 12:16 PM (gWBY1)

286 I am partial to the series “ Chuck”.

The first couple of seasons are good where he's a hapless geek being dragged along for the ride. They lost the thread when they turned into a superhero. Still... Yvonne Strahovski.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 12, 2025 12:18 PM (3nLb4)

287 Birchers “at least” loved America?

That implies there was something wrong with the Birchere, and Buckley was correct in denying them legitimacy or whatever.

What was wrong with the Birchers? The only fault I could find was they did have a problem with flouridating the municipal water supplies.

Their general theme that the US “Lost China” and Korea, and the countries behind the Iron Curtain, and Yugoslavia and Cuba and Viet Nam .. etc. The State Department was riddled with communists, and set the stage for millions of deaths.

Like Sen. McCarthy, most people only know of the Birchers through the leftist or marxist media lens. “Red Scare” and “Witch Hunt” and “Hysteria” will be in there somewhere.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 12:18 PM (Mr2jk)

288 287 Concur.

Posted by: gp at December 12, 2025 12:19 PM (GHIyr)

289 Try as I might, I have yet to understand what value health insurance companies bring to the table.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken
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Because catastrophic health problems can arise that could and did bankrupt people. The problem became though, because of a weird quirk in labor pay rates being controlled circa 1940's during WWII, Kaiser Shipbuilding could recruit workers by offering freehealth care and the OPM (Office of Price and Management) ruled that this was not an increase in wages. So other corporations did it too.

Since health care was not ruled as compensation, then we got health insurance for routine care instead of catastrophic coverage. That meant eventually over time, due to size effects, insurance companies got reductions in what they paid providers versus those that paid cash. And from there, the system metastasized. Medicare boosted the effects when it came online because large insurance companies adopted Medicare coverage rules and based their charges on Medicare rates (medicare and medicaid created a price floor in essence). System still worked decently until Obama, you didn't earn that, decided to use big insurance to give coverage to those in the gaps on coverage.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 12:21 PM (WDjG6)

290 reminds me - never, and I mean never, consider a used car previously owned by an Indian person/family. The person offering it for sale will lie about every detail of it including color.



Same with Russians. If I see the sellers name is Vasily or some such, I move on.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 12:21 PM (9iyS+)

291 Thinking about Laramie, I looked up star Robert Fuller and found "Robert Fuller (born Leonard Leroy Lee)." So I guess he was Lee Lee Lee.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 12:22 PM (L/fGl)

292 How does the govt even know if someone self deported.
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The foreclosures are just now hitting the market.

It's kinda sad but yeah, vids of walking through the house and you can see the grabbed what they could and fled.

Funny though, 'cause all the comments are variations of "how the F did they get a FHA loan w/o proof of citizenship, and when citizens can't qualify?!"

LOL, it's getting mean out there and the Dems have no clue the mood.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 12:23 PM (HXT0k)

293 What was wrong with the Birchers? The only fault I could find was they did have a problem with flouridating the municipal water supplies.

Posted by: Common Tater
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CIA did not like them as they affronted modern liberal progressive attitudes so they used Buckley to take them down.

Tailgunner Joe was taken down in part for the same reason. No elite class members really wanted inquiry into their sordid personal lives and tangled finances/loyalties going back to school days. Joe, as an outsider, was disposable and removable because of his personal problems.

Uniparty has been running the show for a long time since WWII at the very least.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 12:24 PM (WDjG6)

294 “ICE was here,” reads the sign. “The Holy Family is safe in the Sanctuary of our Church.”
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Sounds like that's a church where the Bible is just a word and not a book they read.

Guaranteed there's a fag flag somewhere on the grounds a well.

About as Christian a church as a mosque ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 12:25 PM (HXT0k)

295 When those mortgage rates go down there will be a big turn around. Home builders/developers will kick in, they will buy in bulk and the price per sq ft should go down and less sq ft in starter home combined with lower monthly payments will make them more accessable to first time buyers.

The surge in homebuilding will be a boon to employment overall. All the various materials that go into building will increase need and productivity there. And all the crafts, skills, and trades that go into building a home and in producing and delivering the necessary goods.

This development will resonate incrementally upward. A new neighborhood needs new stores, etc., etc. This is what Powell understands and why his hate Trump is so adamant againt lowering rates.

Lowering rates is not printing more money.
Lowering rates is creating places for money to go.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 12, 2025 12:31 PM (lQBYU)

296 trouble is we're inundated with legal H1B immigrants ... and that seems to only be increasing ...
Posted by: BlackOrchid

Stats say no. Part of teh issue is that the bloated numbers above the statutory cap admitted by Biden junta are good for three years and renewable for another 3.

New restrictions kicked in requiring 100k fee per job plus other restrictions such as a minimum salary of $65k starting Sept. 21, 2025.

Stats are here for the last several years. Link goes to an H1B firm. https://tinyurl.com/mk5dttah

Biden's junta spiked admissions to 188400 for FY 25 versus the 125 k total granted (this includes spouses) for FY 26. So your kids are probably seeing the Biden spike in the job market as it can take some time for the bulge in the python to be digested.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 12:41 PM (WDjG6)

297 Norman! Please coordinate!


Posted by: Toad-0 at December 12, 2025 12:55 PM (S6jVk)

298 Cheaper gas.
Lower interest rates.
Cheaper housing.
Cheaper eggs.
Higher wages.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at December 12, 2025 02:41 PM (s/0Zp)

299 It's funny - Romney, way back in the day, proposed just this scenario - that illegals would largely self deport - you only had to make it hard for them to be here.

I recall the experts laughing about that.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at December 12, 2025 02:45 PM (s/0Zp)

300 Imagine this continues - 2.5 million per year, 4 years. That is 10 million. A solid start. Get Vance or Rubio to continue another 8 years - problem solved.

And, thing is, this could accelerate. As ICE visits more sanctuary cites. This problem is going to start solving itself very quickly. As we have fewer illegals, law enforcement can focus more and more resources on what's left. As secure border means less ICE at the border, and more to patrol and deport.

Imagine your choice - sell you shit, take you money, and leave, in an orderly manner, or get arrested and deported, and maybe losing everything you have. And not being able to find a job or get benefits. AND the feds will pay for your plane ticket. That plane ride starts looking awful good.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at December 12, 2025 02:50 PM (s/0Zp)

301 You know what Democrats don't care about anymore?

Epstein. How about that?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 03:08 PM (viF8m)

302 >>And, thing is, this could accelerate. As ICE visits more sanctuary cites.

10,000 additional ICE agents will be hitting the streets next year.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 12, 2025 03:09 PM (viF8m)

303 The "Trump Destroys Housing Equity for Middle Class Families as Home Values Plummet" articles are being written and prepped for 2026.

Posted by: Ben Sears at December 12, 2025 03:29 PM (WzTQR)

Mid-Morning Art Thread

Alpert Woman.jpg

[Do not click to embiggen]

Woman in Doorway
Samuel Halpert

Is this great art? No, but it is competently executed, the artist has obvious skill, and there is no obvious political bent to the work. And the scene is sufficiently complex that it suggests questions. What is going on? Who is the woman ascending the stairs? Why didn't John Moses Browning design a .50ACP?

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM




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1 Looks like he timed it just right - once again. . .

Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2025 09:30 AM (cYBz/)

2 Huh. Btw testing?

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 12, 2025 09:30 AM (HU4DS)

3
ESPONJA!!11!1!!11

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 12, 2025 09:30 AM (tljrc)

4 What?

Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2025 09:31 AM (cYBz/)

5 yow!

Posted by: cmeat at December 12, 2025 09:31 AM (R11M+)

6 Title checks out.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 09:31 AM (kgE5c)

7 [Do not click to embiggen]
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Seriously. DON'T!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 09:31 AM (ESVrU)

8 here to suggest noone embiggens this, worse than a rickroll.

Posted by: cmeat at December 12, 2025 09:32 AM (R11M+)

9 And who's the woman coming up the stairs in the bottom left?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 09:32 AM (L/fGl)

10 I never like going up and down steep staircases like those.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 09:32 AM (ESVrU)

11 Not bad, interesting use of space and color. Those stairs do not look safe at all, I would not use them myself.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 12, 2025 09:32 AM (WPL6O)

12 Date
1925

Classification
Paintings

Medium
Oil on canvas

Dimensions
Overall: 31 5/8 × 25 5/8in. (80.3 × 65.1 cm)

Accession number
70.1591

Credit line
Whitney Museum of American Art, New York; gift of Sidney Elliott Cohn

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 12, 2025 09:32 AM (gbOdA)

13 But why the Handmaiden LARPer lurking in the basement stairwell?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 12, 2025 09:32 AM (NuV6c)

14 Why didn't John Moses Browning design a .50ACP?

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM


Sorry.

Posted by: A Mr. Death, here about the reaping at December 12, 2025 09:32 AM (kgE5c)

15 I like the dark wood against the white walls.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 09:33 AM (lQ+/f)

16 The women were angry that day, my friends.

Posted by: George Costanza at December 12, 2025 09:33 AM (2Ez/1)

17 Like this one. Color scheme is perfect and the subject simple.
Would hang, thx CBD

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2025 09:33 AM (D+mpw)

18 Thick. Would not hang.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 12, 2025 09:34 AM (abIsI)

19 At least she is wearing sensible shoes!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 12, 2025 09:34 AM (0nHVk)

20 Well, they did make a try for the .50 GI in a 1911 a few years back, but it didn't really get off the ground.

Posted by: Robert Plant at December 12, 2025 09:34 AM (PTJlB)

21 Woman coming up the stairs needs a bra.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 12, 2025 09:34 AM (abIsI)

22 when old houses settle they can get off kilter.

Posted by: cmeat at December 12, 2025 09:34 AM (R11M+)

23 It's a bit of a challenge for a sniper to hide out in the plant on the windowsill.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 09:34 AM (ESVrU)

24 [Do not click to embiggen]
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Seriously. DON'T!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 09:31 AM (ESVrU)

Do y'all know just how much the Moron in me wants to do just that right now????

Posted by: Pug Mahon at December 12, 2025 09:34 AM (PSEDc)

25 Ottoman Man is still as nasty as ever.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 12, 2025 09:35 AM (NpAcC)

26 [Do not click to embiggen]
----
Seriously. DON'T!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel


At least once a year, he's contractually obligated to post that.

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 12, 2025 09:35 AM (OUMaO)

27 Sp the woman in blue is carrying something orange and the woman in orange is following her?

Sounds...suspicion.

Its too small for an overcoat. The woman in orange has a hat and a shirt so...stolen pants?

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2025 09:35 AM (sKqQm)

28 Chick coming up the stairs seems to have a decent rack.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 09:35 AM (77rzZ)

29 Like this one. Color scheme is perfect and the subject simple.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 12, 2025 09:33 AM (D+mpw)


Yup. Skill is more important than some rarified social philosophy that irritates most people!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 12, 2025 09:35 AM (n9ltV)

30 Meh. Boring. Some nice framing and composition, but that’s about it. TBWNH.

Posted by: Elric the Blade at December 12, 2025 09:35 AM (yhEB+)

31 "MOM!! I PROMISE I WON'T THROW THE FOOTBALL INSIDE! CAN I PLEASE HAVE IT BACK NOWWWWWW???"

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at December 12, 2025 09:35 AM (NuV6c)

32 Wide birthing hips.

Posted by: Potential suitors at December 12, 2025 09:35 AM (2Ez/1)

33 I see cankles.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 12, 2025 09:35 AM (NpAcC)

34 Harriett still refused to believe Maude when she said surprising people with a lampshade on you head is not funny.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 09:36 AM (Riz8t)

35 21 that's an old lamp on the floor in the corner under the stairs.

Posted by: cmeat at December 12, 2025 09:36 AM (R11M+)

36 Do y'all know just how much the Moron in me wants to do just that right now????

Posted by: Pug Mahon at December 12, 2025 09:34 AM (PSEDc)


No...do what you are told like a good little HotAir reader.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 12, 2025 09:36 AM (n9ltV)

37 Grandparents had a house with staircases like that. We were admonished not to play on them.

We played on them.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 12, 2025 09:37 AM (NwnyJ)

38 Harvey Weinstein may have been the model for Ottoman Man.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at December 12, 2025 09:37 AM (0nHVk)

39 21 Woman coming up the stairs needs a bra.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 12, 2025 09:34 AM
###

You know about the cup sizes?

Posted by: Frank Costanza at December 12, 2025 09:37 AM (2Ez/1)

40 When will we get back to good sensible landscape art from Kincaid?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 12, 2025 09:38 AM (abIsI)

41 I like the contrast between the white walls and the dark wood. Nice pop of green on the window sill.

Posted by: Tuna at December 12, 2025 09:38 AM (lJ0H4)

42 No...do what you are told like a good little HotAir reader.

You are using the force here. The dark side of the force.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 12, 2025 09:38 AM (sKqQm)

43
It's like the woman in the doorway is paused to hear the woman ascending the stairs, suggesting motion rather than portraying it.

I like this very much. A painting that makes you wonder.

Posted by: Auspex at December 12, 2025 09:38 AM (Y8DZL)

44 Why are the plants growing *away* from the light coming through the window?

Posted by: red speck at December 12, 2025 09:39 AM (Ve/HL)

45 Don't embiggen pic, reminds me of this -

https://youtu.be/6goQBx0zjyY

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 09:39 AM (Dv3i1)

46 >>the woman in blue is carrying something orange


MY FOOTBALL!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at December 12, 2025 09:39 AM (NuV6c)

47 Is that plant on the right a ficus?

Posted by: Jeffrey Toobin at December 12, 2025 09:39 AM (2Ez/1)

48 I never like going up and down steep staircases like those.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

The back staircase at my grandparent's farmhouse had a rise of eight feet and a run of about the same. You had to pull yourself up using the banister. Every one that used it fell up or down at least once.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2025 09:39 AM (cYBz/)

49 Painting needs a cat on the window sill.

Posted by: dantesed at December 12, 2025 09:39 AM (Oy/m2)

50 The woman in the blue dress needs better underwear.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 12, 2025 09:39 AM (NpAcC)

51 Could be the Fields Rooming House, but Hillary Brooke was the only female who lived there and she was a blonde.

Posted by: Stinky Davis at December 12, 2025 09:39 AM (oftw2)

52 >36 Do y'all know just how much the Moron in me wants to do just that right now????

Posted by: Pug Mahon at December 12, 2025 09:34 AM (PSEDc)

No...do what you are told like a good little HotAir reader.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 12, 2025 09:36 AM (n9ltV)

https://tinyurl.com/uf3ackzt

Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 12, 2025 09:39 AM (GTqXr)

53 Alt title: Sad Boobs and Buttcracks -- a Study in Red and Blue.

Posted by: red speck at December 12, 2025 09:39 AM (Ve/HL)

54 Posted by: redridinghood

What makes for a cankle (?) because the woman in the blue dress does not look like she has chubby ankles, although the right in slimmer than the left.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 09:40 AM (lQ+/f)

55 Jewish home, I think. That’s a Mezuzah in the left foreground, no?

Posted by: Elric the Blade at December 12, 2025 09:40 AM (yhEB+)

56 >53 Alt title: Sad Boobs and Buttcracks -- a Study in Red and Blue.

Posted by: red speck at December 12, 2025 09:39 AM (Ve/HL)

Speaking of flapjacks...

Posted by: Heavy Meta at December 12, 2025 09:40 AM (GTqXr)

57 This art makes me angry.

Posted by: Weasel at December 12, 2025 09:40 AM (rV4Iu)

58 here to suggest noone embiggens this, worse than a rickroll.
Posted by: cmeat at December 12, 2025 09:32 AM (R11M+)


Damn CBD's older sister!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 12, 2025 09:40 AM (ExV1e)

59 Oh man, where to start

the artist uses shading to add detail to the blue woman's butt
who's the red handmaiden at lower left?
the stairs are a mess
I rate this as Meh with oakleaf clusters
would sell to unsuspecting rube

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 09:41 AM (ZxPkt)

60 Escher: An Early Draft.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 09:41 AM (L/fGl)

61 50 The woman in the blue dress needs better underwear.
Posted by: redridinghood


Probably pantyless, to have a nooner with the super?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 12, 2025 09:41 AM (abIsI)

62 The young lady with the fruit bowl is just asking for it with her magnificent ass and tight hair.

I wouldn't hang but I would bang.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 12, 2025 09:41 AM (1zOXE)

63 "Embiggen" needs to find its way into more people's lexicons.

Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2025 09:41 AM (UnA8+)

64 The back staircase at my grandparent's farmhouse had a rise of eight feet and a run of about the same. You had to pull yourself up using the banister. Every one that used it fell up or down at least once.
Posted by: Tonypete

Look, Fat, falling upstairs three times on Air Force One is a record that will never be broken.

Posted by: Scranton Joe With Squirts at December 12, 2025 09:42 AM (oftw2)

65 50 The woman in the blue dress needs better underwear.

++++
Have her come see me.

Posted by: Sid Farkus at December 12, 2025 09:43 AM (2Ez/1)

66 I like this painting because it has a story to tell.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2025 09:43 AM (A0sqA)

67 "Embiggen" needs to find its way into more people's lexicons.
---
"A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man."

Posted by: Jebediah Springfield at December 12, 2025 09:43 AM (ESVrU)

68 Probably pantyless, to have a nooner with the super?
Posted by: Maj. Healey

I'm not the Super! I'm the Concierge!

Posted by: Ground Floor Gertie at December 12, 2025 09:43 AM (oftw2)

69
"Oh, it looks like the sun's about to set. Time to put a bowl of meat at the end of the driveway, to keep the Somalis away from the dog."

Posted by: Minnesota Housewife at December 12, 2025 09:43 AM (BI5O2)

70 > I like this painting because it has a story to tell.

Posted by: San Franpsycho
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well clue me in

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 09:44 AM (ZxPkt)

71 >66 I like this painting because it has a story to tell.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2025 09:43 AM (A0sqA)

Every picture tells a story.

Posted by: Rod Stewart at December 12, 2025 09:44 AM (GTqXr)

72 This is one of those 20th century paintings that leave me asking: "So what?" Yes, it isn't abstract. The scene is easy to imagine. But why should the audience care? However, it is better executed than his NYC cityscapes which look amateurish.

Posted by: JTB at December 12, 2025 09:44 AM (yTvNw)

73 I can smell this scene.

Posted by: The Nose Knows at December 12, 2025 09:45 AM (oftw2)

74 >>"Embiggen" needs to find its way into more people's lexicons.


I'm guessing this painting did not embiggen Samuel Halpert's wallet.

Embiggen!

Posted by: Lizzy at December 12, 2025 09:45 AM (NuV6c)

75 Why would you need a .50?

Obviously to make up for not having the finesse to rapidly place two to the chest, one to the skull in 9mm.

Heathen.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 12, 2025 09:45 AM (mT+6a)

76 That’s a Mezuzah in the left foreground, no?

No. It's the intercom, but back then they worked in semaphore instead of electricity.

Posted by: Robert Plant at December 12, 2025 09:45 AM (PTJlB)

77 >73 I can smell this scene.

Posted by: The Nose Knows at December 12, 2025 09:45 AM (oftw2)

I just crop dusted my sister.

Posted by: Gal in the blue dress at December 12, 2025 09:46 AM (GTqXr)

78 What makes for a cankle (?) because the woman in the blue dress does not look like she has chubby ankles, although the right in slimmer than the left.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 09:40 AM (lQ+
*******
Usually, it's when there's no definition between the ankle and the leg or there is swelling in the leg.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 12, 2025 09:46 AM (NpAcC)

79 I may be crazy, but I'm not stupid.

When I read "Do not click to embiggen," I think "okay."

Posted by: no one at December 12, 2025 09:47 AM (W7XSX)

80 "Embiggen" needs to find its way into more people's lexicons.
---
"A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man."
Posted by: Jebediah Springfield

“I find your attitude most deleterious to the morale of this unit.”
- Word a Day Radar O'Reilly

Posted by: Tonypete at December 12, 2025 09:47 AM (cYBz/)

81 I can also hear the creaking of the stair treads.

Posted by: Lend Me Your Ears at December 12, 2025 09:47 AM (oftw2)

82 What makes for a cankle (?) because the woman in the blue dress does not look like she has chubby ankles, although the right in slimmer than the left.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
__________

Respectfully disagree. Thems cankles.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 12, 2025 09:47 AM (XvL8K)

83
Symbolism appears when you seek it; making Weasel angry is no doubt what the artist had in mind.

Would hang.

Posted by: Auspex at December 12, 2025 09:48 AM (Y8DZL)

84 Looks like a Hopper painting!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 12, 2025 09:48 AM (wzUl9)

85 "Sad Boobs and Buttcracks" was the working title of the movie that would ultimately be released as "Bedknobs and Broomsticks" at the insistence of Angela Landsbury.

Posted by: Movie nerd at December 12, 2025 09:48 AM (2Ez/1)

86 Does the painting elicit any emotion or make you tell a story about it to yourself. Or do you just find it aesthetically pleasing beyond normal.

That’s how I personally judge whether a painting is better than good.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 12, 2025 09:48 AM (KDPiq)

87 66 >>>I like this painting because it has a story to tell.


I have Type II diabetes but I manage it well
I like this painting because it has a story to tell
I take two daily Jardiance at each day start-a-a-rt...

Shit. I have to get out more.

Posted by: red speck at December 12, 2025 09:48 AM (Ve/HL)

88
Dick head on the steps!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 12, 2025 09:48 AM (xG4kz)

89 This week's theme has been all about the elongation of body parts in paintings. Naturally, CBD selects elongated buttcracks and saggy boob for Friday.
Actual theme: The Aristocrats!?!

Posted by: Lizzy at December 12, 2025 09:49 AM (NuV6c)

90 Both these chicks were hot stuff before electricity.

Posted by: Al Czervik at December 12, 2025 09:49 AM (oftw2)

91 Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 12, 2025 09:47 AM (XvL8K)

Oh, well. She's long past being worried about what people think of her cankles.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 09:49 AM (lQ+/f)

92 84 Yes, Wolfus, I thought it was a Hopper at first.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 09:49 AM (77rzZ)

93 Painting doesn't fit with my decor.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2025 09:49 AM (sDNVV)

94 "Respectfully disagree. Thems cankles."


Is this about me?

Posted by: Old Lady Rodham at December 12, 2025 09:49 AM (2Ez/1)

95 I like the curve of the underside of the stairs. In old homes like this (like 17th-18th century, they would plaster the underside of the stairs. Always struck me as odd, but I guess it's a way to keep from having to oil/varnish the underside of the stairs.

Posted by: GWB at December 12, 2025 09:50 AM (yT3KW)

96 What devilry is this? Do not embiggen leads me to defy authority. Meh, we've seen that one before and it's no longer shocking. Would not hang today's offering.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 12, 2025 09:51 AM (2NHgQ)

97 If he would have painted a man in a gangster suit and hat coming up the stairs it would have told a better story.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 12, 2025 09:51 AM (KDPiq)

98 Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 09:49 AM (77rzZ

Yes, it does look like his style.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 09:52 AM (lQ+/f)

99
A dog would make this scene more cheerful. Not art.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 09:52 AM (tgvbd)

100
[Do not click to embiggen]
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Seriously. DON'T!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel


I LOLed.

I warned all y'all yesterday about the summoning power of certain prefixes, but would all y'all listen? Noooooo!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 12, 2025 09:52 AM (xG4kz)

101 The lack of handicap access is troubling to this modern, urban mind.

Posted by: The Gimp at December 12, 2025 09:53 AM (oftw2)

102 Needs Tommy Udo shoving an old lady down the stairs.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 12, 2025 09:53 AM (kpS4V)

103 Would hang.
Posted by: Auspex

It may not be the best painting in the world but hanging the artist seems a little extreme.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 09:53 AM (L/fGl)

104 97 If he would have painted a man in a gangster suit and hat coming up the stairs it would have told a better story.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 12, 2025 09:51 AM (KDPiq)

Samurai Armor complete with Kabuto helmet.

Posted by: XTC at December 12, 2025 09:53 AM (UnA8+)

105
"You can come up, Mabel! They're done shooting! Looks like everyone's dead."

Posted by: Chicago Housewife at December 12, 2025 09:53 AM (BI5O2)

106 Hopper has crisper lines but it does resemble the style somewhat.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 12, 2025 09:53 AM (KDPiq)

107
That is one wonky landing on that upper stairway.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 12, 2025 09:54 AM (xG4kz)

108 If he would have painted a man in a gangster suit and hat coming up the stairs it would have told a better story.
Posted by: the way I see it at December 12, 2025 09:51 AM (KDPiq)

Samurai Armor complete with Kabuto helmet.


Beau Biden naked and painted blue.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 09:54 AM (Riz8t)

109
I never like going up and down steep staircases like those.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 12, 2025 09:32 AM (ESVrU)


Our house in Ohio was built in 1869. The stairs to the basement were not only steep, but the stairs themselves were unevenly spaced.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 09:54 AM (tgvbd)

110 I embiggened, even tho CBD warned me! Aaaagh!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 12, 2025 09:54 AM (kpS4V)

111 I’m basically the entire Lot family. “Do not click to embiggen”. I am a pillar of salt now, thank you so much. Someone is going to eventually knock the little plant off the window sill.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 12, 2025 09:54 AM (3uBP9)

112 Wasn’t global warming supposed to kill winter? Someone forgot to tell Chicago. lol.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 09:55 AM (9iyS+)

113
“Do not click to embiggen”

The "Wet Paint" of the Art Thread.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 09:55 AM (tgvbd)

114 I too thought it was Hopperesque, but Hopper usually has that phosphorescent white deployed in his paintings.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 12, 2025 09:55 AM (kpS4V)

115 [Do not click to embiggen]

Is this great art? No, but it is competently executed, the artist has obvious skill, and there is no obvious political bent to the work. And the scene is sufficiently complex that it suggests questions. What is going on? Who is the woman ascending the stairs? Why didn't John Moses Browning design a .50ACP?


The two obvious unasked questions this morning:

Why didn't JMB (PBUH) jump straight to the greatest of all handgun calibers, the .41 Magnum?

Why should we not click to embiggen?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 12, 2025 09:55 AM (0sNs1)

116 A dog would make this scene more cheerful. Not art.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 09:52 AM (tgvbd)


The chick with boobs around her waist coming up the stairs fits the bill nicely.

Posted by: Typical piggish Moron at December 12, 2025 09:56 AM (n9ltV)

117 Only reason I wanted to embiggen is to see if my guess was right.

I figure the horde would tell me soon enough.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 12, 2025 09:56 AM (KDPiq)

118 Good news, everyone! Jesus is back!

Noted prosperity-gospel Televangelist Jesse Duplantis explains when you see him, you 'see the Father' and 'God incarnate.'

He later adds "you mad at me because I live in a mansion? I'm just acting like my father, because he's living in a mansion."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 09:56 AM (L/fGl)

119 I never click the Mystery Click

Until I am told not to.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2025 09:56 AM (A0sqA)

120
Wasn’t global warming supposed to kill winter? Someone forgot to tell Chicago. lol.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 09:55 AM (9iyS+)


It's "Climate Change" and it's caused by you, Mr. and Mrs. Republican!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 12, 2025 09:56 AM (tgvbd)

121 The Paolo, how you say, "embiggens" often.

Posted by: The Paolo at December 12, 2025 09:56 AM (77rzZ)

122 I've got short rib ragu simmering in the crockpot. Added Calabrian chilis to punch it up.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 12, 2025 09:56 AM (kpS4V)

123 Sad Boobs and Buttcracks Forever

Posted by: the Outlaws at December 12, 2025 09:57 AM (PSEDc)

124 What is going on? Who is the woman ascending the stairs?

**********

Tread carefully, CBD.
I've been stairing at this for a while and the scene obviously suggests more than one story but we should avoid flights of fancy just in case, or things might spiral out of control.

Posted by: muldoon at December 12, 2025 09:57 AM (/iMjX)

125 That is Taylor Swift turning her back on her boyfriend after he dropped two straight passes, right in his hands, in the 4th Q against the Texans - the second leading to a Texans pick. She is thinking "Another man I've ruined."

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at December 12, 2025 09:57 AM (Da7Vv)

126 The stairs to the attic in my grandparent's home were ridiculously steep. And of course I was warned not to ascend them, which was like waving a red cape in front of a bull.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 12, 2025 09:57 AM (n9ltV)

127 @115 aka whatever you do, do not push that red button!

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at December 12, 2025 09:57 AM (36PRH)

128 "Come on up, Ethel. I'll just be a few minutes tidying up before your next 'client' gets here."

Posted by: The Brothel Maid Service, Inc. at December 12, 2025 09:57 AM (2Ez/1)

129 That is one wonky landing on that upper stairway.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot
______

And the steps looks to be spiral, so that slope must be brutal.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 12, 2025 09:58 AM (XvL8K)

130 I embiggened, even tho CBD warned me! Aaaagh!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at December 12, 2025 09:54 AM


You also don't wear pants in the Book Thread, even tho The Perfessor warns you! (But no "Aaaagh!" from me. I report, you decide.)

Posted by: Bob from NSA at December 12, 2025 09:58 AM (0sNs1)

131 >>>[Do not click to embiggen]

Easily the cruelest of the COBs.

Posted by: No Name Today at December 12, 2025 09:58 AM (8mulE)

132
The chick with boobs around her waist coming up the stairs fits the bill nicely.
Posted by: Typical piggish Moron


Nancy Pelosi
On the stairway
With a hammer

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 12, 2025 09:58 AM (xG4kz)

133 Our house in Ohio was built in 1869. The stairs to the basement were not only steep, but the stairs themselves were unevenly spaced.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

I don't wanna go down to the basement. (There's something down there).

Posted by: Joey Ramone 1976 at December 12, 2025 09:58 AM (oftw2)

134 I've got short rib ragu simmering in the crockpot. Added Calabrian chilis to punch it up.
Posted by: All Hail Eris

Uh-oh. Calabri chilis will get you in hot water with Mario Rubio.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 09:59 AM (77rzZ)

135 That'll teach 'em!

British judge fines migrant family £1 each for stealing £1.2 million

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 09:59 AM (L/fGl)

136 Posted by: muldoon at December 12, 2025 09:57 AM (/iMjX)

You are too full of baluster to get a rise out of me!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 12, 2025 09:59 AM (n9ltV)

137 >>The lack of handicap access is troubling to this modern, urban mind.


Uh, have you met my neighbor, Christina?

Posted by: Andrew Wyeth at December 12, 2025 09:59 AM (NuV6c)

138 I um, have a GLAVIN, Debigulator, for mhay mhay anyone who needs one...

Posted by: John Frink at December 12, 2025 10:00 AM (y3u3n)

139 It’s nice how she worked the color of the bucket into the rest of her attire though.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 12, 2025 10:00 AM (3uBP9)

140 a man in a gangster suit and hat coming up the stairs
Samurai Armor complete with Kabuto helmet.

Pizza delivery guy, and we'd be here all day writing plots for it.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 12, 2025 10:00 AM (zdLoL)

141 Nancy Pelosi
On the stairway
With a hammer
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot

Hey, Nancy, that's my hammer, dammit! Give it back!
-- Paul Pelosi

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 10:00 AM (77rzZ)

142 Easily the cruelest of the COBs.
Posted by: No Name Today

He's cruel, but he's fair.

Posted by: Mostly Cruel, Though. at December 12, 2025 10:00 AM (oftw2)

143 I would hang but change title to Ma Barker Gang Meeting

Posted by: the way I see it at December 12, 2025 10:01 AM (KDPiq)

144 The stairs to the attic in my grandparent's home were ridiculously steep. And of course I was warned not to ascend them, which was like waving a red cape in front of a bull.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Or telling us not to embiggen.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 10:01 AM (L/fGl)

145 Wakes up
Scratches
Look's around
Dang. Great art! One could sit and look at it and create a whole story. Fun!
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2025 10:01 AM (2WIwB)

146 "Why didn't John Moses Browning design a .50ACP?"

So there is a sniper hidden in the background.

Posted by: tankdemon at December 12, 2025 10:02 AM (0iZzW)

147 I'm inclined to raise the bar on these puns, one step at a time.

Posted by: Oh, no... at December 12, 2025 10:03 AM (2Ez/1)

148
The cat in that dwelling will return that plant to its rightful place -- on the floor -- in short order.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 12, 2025 10:03 AM (xG4kz)

149 Or telling us not to embiggen.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 10:01 AM (L/fGl)

I'm so tempted to...

Posted by: It's me donna at December 12, 2025 10:03 AM (VE6XX)

150 Oh look, it's a future coprolite.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 10:04 AM (Riz8t)

151 Who is the woman ascending the stairs?

There are two (2) human figures in the frame, so,
somebody is about to get "ascended." It's a Rule.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 12, 2025 10:04 AM (zdLoL)

152 9 And who's the woman coming up the stairs in the bottom left?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 09:32 AM (L/fGl)

Before the internet, your NSA monitor sometimes had to make housecalls.

Posted by: tankdemon at December 12, 2025 10:04 AM (0iZzW)

153 I am doing some interactive art and putting accompanying sounds with the painting . Mini Bluetooth speaker behind the canvas.

Posted by: the way I see it at December 12, 2025 10:04 AM (KDPiq)

154 >>> "Why didn't John Moses Browning design a .50ACP?"

So there is a sniper hidden in the background.
Posted by: tankdemon at December 12, 2025 10:02 AM (0iZzW)


CBD is the sniper. Very meta.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 12, 2025 10:05 AM (3uBP9)

155 147 I'm inclined to raise the bar on these puns, one step at a time.
Posted by: Oh, no... at December 12, 2025 10:03 AM (2Ez/1)

Morons are always willing to go on flights of fancy with these puns.

Posted by: tankdemon at December 12, 2025 10:05 AM (0iZzW)

156 The woman on the stairway is sure that all that glitters is gold.

Posted by: Led Zeppelin at December 12, 2025 10:06 AM (2Ez/1)

157
"... he fixes the cable?"

-- Commentary on the Cinema of Karl Hungus

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 12, 2025 10:07 AM (xG4kz)

158 WTF

Posted by: Denny Crane - CBD is a BASTARD at December 12, 2025 10:07 AM (i49OE)

159 a noble spirit embiggens the smallest man
- Jebedaia Springfield



Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 10:07 AM (9iyS+)

160 If we deny our baser instincts then we become mutants worthy of scorn.

youtube.com/watch?v=0aY6PFccu-k&list =RD0aY6PFccu-k&start_radio=1

one space because I'm lazy

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 12, 2025 10:08 AM (1zOXE)

161 Morning.

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 10:09 AM (1Yy3c)

162 Alternate take: That is not a stairwell on the left, it's an alcove. The lady in red is not ascending, she is a severed torso propped against the wall. The woman in the dress is carrying a surgical tray full of freshly harvested organs from the traveling salesman in the bathtub upstairs, sedated and packed in ice. Sweeny Todd's Boarding House.

Too graphic?

Posted by: muldoon at December 12, 2025 10:09 AM (/iMjX)

163 159 a noble spirit embiggens the smallest man
- Jebedaia Springfield

----
“My Man Stands Out,” Julia Lee and Her Boy Friends (1950)

https://youtu.be/MrU63AFRQPk

Posted by: Double Entendre at December 12, 2025 10:09 AM (2Ez/1)

164 Air rescues in Washington state ongoing for those who failed to heed evacuation order.

Posted by: one hour sober at December 12, 2025 10:09 AM (Y1sOo)

165 40 When will we get back to good sensible landscape art from Kincaid?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at December 12, 2025 09:38 AM (abIsI)

I would have thought you already got more Kincaid than you can handle this month.

Posted by: tankdemon at December 12, 2025 10:09 AM (0iZzW)

166
It's no Stairway to Heaven, that's for sure.

Nice chenille robe, toots

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 12, 2025 10:10 AM (xG4kz)

167
Arrrrrrgh! Cankles!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 12, 2025 10:10 AM (xG4kz)

168 Crude, would not hang.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 10:11 AM (WDjG6)

169 Alternate take: That is not a stairwell on the left, it's an alcove. The lady in red is not ascending, she is a severed torso propped against the wall. The woman in the dress is carrying a surgical tray full of freshly harvested organs from the traveling salesman in the bathtub upstairs, sedated and packed in ice. Sweeny Todd's Boarding House.

Too graphic?
Posted by: muldoon at December 12, 2025 10:09 AM (/iMjX)

Cannibal Corpse would reject it for not being graphic enough.

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 10:11 AM (1Yy3c)

170 There is a formula for stair tread, riser, and length of run that allows you to build even a steep stair that has a natural feel to it. And there is another system for making a spiral-step landing. I made one once for a tricky alcove, then altered the room and did away with it and kind of miss it, it being all artsy-craftsy and all.

It almost goes without saying that you can also deliberately get that formula wrong, and Hitchcock all and sundry to their deaths.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 12, 2025 10:11 AM (zdLoL)

171 Alternate take: That is not a stairwell on the left, it's an alcove. The lady in red is not ascending, she is a severed torso propped against the wall. The woman in the dress is carrying a surgical tray full of freshly harvested organs from the traveling salesman in the bathtub upstairs, sedated and packed in ice. Sweeny Todd's Boarding House.

Too graphic?
Posted by: muldoon at December 12, 2025 10:09 AM (/iMjX)


No, that actually makes the painting better.

Posted by: Denny Crane - CBD is STILL a BASTARD at December 12, 2025 10:12 AM (i49OE)

172 135 That'll teach 'em!

British judge fines migrant family £1 each for stealing £1.2 million
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice!

I'm pretty sure in today's society rhat the number one job for a judge is to demoralize the law abiding citizen.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 10:12 AM (Dv3i1)

173 162 Alternate take: That is not a stairwell on the left, it's an alcove. The lady in red is not ascending, she is a severed torso propped against the wall. The woman in the dress is carrying a surgical tray full of freshly harvested organs from the traveling salesman in the bathtub upstairs, sedated and packed in ice. Sweeny Todd's Boarding House.

Too graphic?
Posted by: muldoon
=======
And then the murders started--

Too late?

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 10:13 AM (WDjG6)

174
That is not a stairwell on the left, it's an alcove.


There is, however, a bathroom on the right ... from which we, the viewers, are emerging.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 12, 2025 10:13 AM (xG4kz)

175 Why should we not click to embiggen?

Posted by: Duncanthrax


You really oughtta, man.

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at December 12, 2025 10:13 AM (OUMaO)

176 Has anybody seen Doof today?

Fox News: Pickleball player plunges to his death in 3-story fall after climbing over safety rail to retrieve ball

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 10:14 AM (77rzZ)

177 175 Why should we not click to embiggen?

Posted by: Duncanthrax

=========
Depends on whether you are wearing pants. Might find pants constraining if you click.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 10:15 AM (WDjG6)

178
You really oughtta, man.
Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum


Great will be your reward!

No, really! Really, really great!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 12, 2025 10:16 AM (xG4kz)

179 Many things are off in this painting. Not only the plants. The whole room. The panes of glass, the stair steps, the flooring doesn't match. No, I don't like it. It looks like it was painted in steps and the steps are not tied in together like they should be.

Posted by: Case at December 12, 2025 10:16 AM (G1OIb)

180 Self described "Black, queer, gender-fluid, associate pastor" arrested for stealing $3 million by way of Black Lives Matter.

https://is.gd/U30dEb9

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 10:16 AM (L/fGl)

181 it suggests questions.

What twinkle toed communist Hoosier GOPe cock-sucker just signed his own death warrant. Or at least failed badly enough that I have to look him up so I can not vote for him.

Posted by: DaveA at December 12, 2025 10:17 AM (FhXTo)

182
There's a woman ascending the stairs
Some say that she's always been there
And a ghost dressed in blue
Haunts the halls on Floor Two
On Floor Three, your place is a chair.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2025 10:17 AM (iJfKG)

183 180 Self described "Black, queer, gender-fluid, associate pastor" arrested for stealing $3 million by way of Black Lives Matter.

https://is.gd/U30dEb9
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 10:16 AM (L/fGl)

He’ll get a 30 day suspended sentence and promise to never do it again. But keep the money of course.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 10:18 AM (9iyS+)

184
Hello. Ned!
How do you do!
Tell me, tell me
What is new?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 12, 2025 10:19 AM (xG4kz)

185 And the scene is sufficiently complex that it suggests questions.

One might even say it insists upon itself.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 10:19 AM (Riz8t)

186 Fox News: Pickleball player plunges to his death in 3-story fall after climbing over safety rail to retrieve ball
Posted by: Bulg

More like Pickeball enthusiast arrested after violating city noise ordinance. Neighbor Gladys Kravitz explained, "That Mr. Doof was pickleballing day and night and I found it obscene because of the loud noises he was making hitting those balls hard with his partner." "Why couldn't that man pick up a decent sport like Tennis instead."

Officer Muldoon in Car 54 which responded to the call, when asked for a response said, " You can't just play pickleball wherever and whenever you feel like it. We got laws and morals in this city!"

The accused, Mr. Doof, was unavailable for comment for this story as he is currently in maximum security lockdown for trying to play solo pickleball in his cell.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 10:21 AM (WDjG6)

187 Self described "Black, queer, gender-fluid, associate pastor" arrested for stealing $3 million by way of Black Lives Matter.

So many buttons for that sweating meme guy to choose from.

Posted by: t-bird at December 12, 2025 10:22 AM (T7fic)

188 Why didn't John Moses Browning design a .50ACP?
----------------
Cuz, you'll shoot your eye out, kid.

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 12, 2025 10:23 AM (Wg6v7)

189 British judge fines migrant family £1 each for stealing £1.2 million
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 09:59 AM (L/fGl)

That's a heck of a big family!

Posted by: GWB at December 12, 2025 10:23 AM (O9D0G)

190 187 Self described "Black, queer, gender-fluid, associate pastor" arrested for stealing $3 million by way of Black Lives Matter.

So many buttons for that sweating meme guy to choose from.
Posted by: t-bird

Rewritten, "Weirdo sex pervert pastor steals millions from his own fake charity"

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 10:24 AM (WDjG6)

191 I'm pretty sure in today's society that the number one job for a “judge” is to demoralize the law abiding citizen.
——-

True enough, but it’s clear they apparently don’t have any education rooted in even a cursory look at history, because there’s only one way this kind of jiggery-pokery ever resolves. I’m thankful I’ve lived long enough to see it, I can at least go out laughing my ass off.

Posted by: Common Tater at December 12, 2025 10:25 AM (04lxq)

192 Rewritten, "Weirdo sex pervert pastor steals millions from his own fake charity"
Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 10:24 AM (WDjG6)

If it's a fake charity then was it really stealing?

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 10:25 AM (1Yy3c)

193 Was the British “judge” also a Muzzie per chance?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 10:25 AM (9iyS+)

194 >Fox News: Pickleball player plunges to his death in 3-story fall after climbing over safety rail to retrieve ball
----

what kind of ball do they use

Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 10:25 AM (ZxPkt)

195 188 Why didn't John Moses Browning design a .50ACP?

Easy, he was busy designing a 50 BMG instead. Greater length, more power, more penetration that could go the distance. Girthier and Lengthier than a mere 50 ACP.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 10:26 AM (WDjG6)

196 "Jiggery-pokery" would be a good title for a pron flick.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 10:26 AM (77rzZ)

197 Rewritten, "Weirdo sex pervert pastor steals millions from his own fake charity"
---------------
He should have called it The Fagz Global Initiative. Money would flow like wine!

Posted by: Pudinhead at December 12, 2025 10:26 AM (Wg6v7)

198 If it's a fake charity then was it really stealing?
Posted by: Robert
====
Huh, a legal conundrum that would be.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 10:27 AM (WDjG6)

199 I'm pretty sure in today's society that the number one job for a “judge” is to demoralize the law abiding citizen.
——-

True enough, but it’s clear they apparently don’t have any education rooted in even a cursory look at history, because there’s only one way this kind of jiggery-pokery ever resolves.


Their whole lives will come tumbreling down.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 12, 2025 10:27 AM (Riz8t)

200 Fox News: Pickleball player plunges to his death in 3-story fall after climbing over safety rail to retrieve ball
----

what kind of ball do they use
Posted by: Don Black at December 12, 2025 10:25 AM (ZxPkt)

I think it's a shuttlecock.

Shuttlecock.

Shuttlecock.

I don't care what anyone says that word will never stop being funny.

Shuttlecock.

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 10:27 AM (1Yy3c)

201 Pickleball was created for people who are too shitty at playing badminton and pin-pong. But it's all good.

I, on the other hand am a cornhole expert because horseshoes is too much work when I drinking.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 12, 2025 10:27 AM (1zOXE)

202 He should have called it The Fagz Global Initiative. Money would flow like wine!
Posted by: Pudinhead
======
Mebbe. Genderqueer is an all encompassing sex pervert label for deviants. It is the label for our times unfortunately. Waiting for the NYT headline--"God is Dead and We are all Genderqueer Now".

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 10:29 AM (WDjG6)

203 I, on the other hand am a cornhole expert
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 12, 2025 10:27 AM (1zOXE)

How YOU doin'?!?

Posted by: Don Lemon at December 12, 2025 10:29 AM (1Yy3c)

204 I, on the other hand am a cornhole expert because horseshoes is too much work when I drinking.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone
=======
That sport has unfortunate connotations in the Dixie meaning quite something else.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 10:30 AM (WDjG6)

205
How many times do I have to warn you to get that mannequin off the stairway? I'll just have to toss this offal out through your room's window! Enjoy the smell!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 12, 2025 10:30 AM (xG4kz)

206 Their whole lives will come tumbreling down.
Posted by: Archimedes
=======
I think that is illegal in Kentucky.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 10:31 AM (WDjG6)

207 22 house Republicans joined Democrats to pass a bill repealing a Trump EO making it easier to fire fedgov employees.

It won’t become law of course but shows how many traitorous fucks there are in the GOP house. Which is why I’m like if the Ds win it back, will anyone even notice? Answer: no.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at December 12, 2025 10:31 AM (9iyS+)

208 what kind of ball do they use
Posted by: Don Black
=======
Big ones. Bigger paddle too.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 10:32 AM (WDjG6)

209 Stalker On The Stairs vibe. I play it with my cats.

Posted by: Bad Andrew at December 12, 2025 10:32 AM (MSlZp)

210 So, now I have a dilemma. Do I 1) just toss the matching sock back in the dirty clothes bin with the dirty one, and suck up being one pair short all week? Or, 2) do I just wear the dirty one with its clean mate sometime this week, so I now have a dirty pair to wash next time?

It is well to choose, early in life, a single type and color of sock. Do not deviate from the path, grasshopper.

Such problems as described above could never arise even if one were to grab two socks at random, they will match.

Q.E.D.

Posted by: Sock It To Me! at December 12, 2025 10:33 AM (04lxq)

211 All of you are wrong. This is an upstairs brothel.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 12, 2025 10:34 AM (g8Ew8)

212 It won’t become law of course but shows how many traitorous fucks there are in the GOP house. Which is why I’m like if the Ds win it back, will anyone even notice? Answer: no.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
======
Except we will have tiresome impeachments which also go nowhere designed to disrupt government.

I just as soon have do nothing GOP types instead annoying assholes of House Dems strutting around on TV and social media.

The main blockage to anything decent is the Senate filibuster and refusal to recess so Trump can put the rest of his people in until after the next election. That is fully in control of the GOP there.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 10:35 AM (WDjG6)

213 >>>That sport has unfortunate connotations in the Dixie meaning quite something else.

Posted by: whig

>Well, here at the AOSHQ, we're granted certain allowances depending upon your membership status.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 12, 2025 10:35 AM (1zOXE)

214 Hey Peter! Mind your cornhole.

Posted by: Lawrence at December 12, 2025 10:35 AM (PSEDc)

215 If the sock isn't that dirty just wear it another day.

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 10:35 AM (1Yy3c)

216 Via Insty

81% of Somali households in Minnesota are on welfare.

https://instapundit.com/761906/


If you enter this country as an immigrant, and go on welfare, at any point in your life,

that should earn you an instant ride back home.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2025 10:35 AM (iJfKG)

217 209 Stalker On The Stairs vibe. I play it with my cats.
Posted by: Bad Andrew
======
Fun game unless you have a Siamese. Some of them will jump on you from on high with claw landing gear fully extended for maximum traction.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 10:36 AM (WDjG6)

218 That sport has unfortunate connotations in the Dixie meaning quite something else.
——

You Ain’t Never Wrong, Honkie!

Posted by: Dr. Cornhole West at December 12, 2025 10:36 AM (04lxq)

219 I like big balls and I cannot lie.

Posted by: Sir PicksALot at December 12, 2025 10:37 AM (2Ez/1)

220 [Do not click to embiggen]

-----------

lol

What, "You know what you did" wasn't available?

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 10:37 AM (25a1J)

221 212 It won’t become law of course but shows how many traitorous fucks there are in the GOP house. Which is why I’m like if the Ds win it back, will anyone even notice? Answer: no.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

Defeatist cynicism is an arrogance that we too know an outcome - we do not. Our Creator expects us to fight for good until HE ends the game, not us.

Posted by: Robert W. Pratt at December 12, 2025 10:37 AM (rQwsY)

222 If you enter this country as an immigrant, and go on welfare, at any point in your life,

that should earn you an instant ride back home.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2025 10:35 AM (iJfKG)

Congress could easily fix it with a law that says gub'mint bennies are reserved for citizens only.

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 10:38 AM (1Yy3c)

223 Well, here at the AOSHQ, we're granted certain allowances depending upon your membership status.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone
=====
FWIW, the phrase probably came into use because corn cobs were used for a certain necessary body function in lieu of pages from magazines or the Sears and Roebuck catalog.

The only way to win cornhole is not to play as WOPR (aka Joshua) said.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 10:38 AM (WDjG6)

224 At Reuters: "Romania finds two masseuses with leprosy"

Well, at least their jobs don't bring them into intimate contact with other people. So there's that.

Posted by: gp at December 12, 2025 10:39 AM (GHIyr)

225 If you enter this country as an immigrant, and go on welfare, at any point in your life,

that should earn you an instant ride back home.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2025 10:35 AM (iJfKG)

My understanding is as an immigrant, you cannot get welfare. Meaning (if true) someone is on the take.

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 12, 2025 10:39 AM (rQwsY)

226 Jemele Hill is race-baiting again over the firing of Michigan's Sherrone Moore, saying he won't get another coaching gig, whereas a number of white coaches who were fired over inappropriate relations with women all were hired again elsewhere.

Posted by: one hour sober at December 12, 2025 10:39 AM (Y1sOo)

227 Defeatist cynicism is an arrogance that we too know an outcome - we do not. Our Creator expects us to fight for good until HE ends the game, not us.
Posted by: Robert W. Pratt
======
Tis true.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 10:39 AM (WDjG6)

228 Is that a shuttlecock in your cornhole or are you just happy to see me?

Posted by: The chick on the stairs at December 12, 2025 10:40 AM (2Ez/1)

229 Thanks for the comment of Mr. Pratt.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 10:41 AM (looXz)

230 Hail Schlürpo

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 12, 2025 10:42 AM (rQwsY)

231 TV ad for phantom of the opera includes some twat in mexican gard incl Sombrero. WTF

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 12, 2025 10:42 AM (Kt19C)

232 Who is the woman ascending the stairs?

-------------

The Barbara Hershey character (Harriet Bird) who shoots the Robert Redford character (Roy Hobbs) in "The Natural."

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 10:42 AM (25a1J)

233 Gard = garb, fucking autocucumber

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 12, 2025 10:43 AM (Kt19C)

234 226 Jemele Hill is race-baiting again over the firing of Michigan's Sherrone Moore, saying he won't get another coaching gig, whereas a number of white coaches who were fired over inappropriate relations with women all were hired again elsewhere.
Posted by: one hour sober at December 12, 2025 10:39 AM (Y1sOo)

When ISN’T she race baiting?

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 12, 2025 10:43 AM (rQwsY)

235 Barbara Hershey has a great rack.

The best thing (two things, really) about Hannah and Her Sisters.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 10:44 AM (77rzZ)

236 211 All of you are wrong. This is an upstairs brothel.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons

I can't eat soup in the summertime.

Posted by: Cream of Chicken at December 12, 2025 10:44 AM (oftw2)

237 TV ad for phantom of the opera includes some twat in mexican gard incl Sombrero. WTF

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at December 12, 2025 10:42 AM (Kt19C)

------------

"Hakeem Jeffries is El Fantasma de la Ópera!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 10:44 AM (25a1J)

238 "Gard = garb"

Guarb? As in "Miss Sweeney, please drop your guarb."

Posted by: gp at December 12, 2025 10:44 AM (GHIyr)

239 >>>When ISN’T she race baiting?

On days that don't end in the letter 'y.'

Posted by: one hour sober at December 12, 2025 10:45 AM (Y1sOo)

240 176 Has anybody seen Doof today?

Fox News: Pickleball player plunges to his death in 3-story fall after climbing over safety rail to retrieve ball
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 10:14 AM (77rzZ)


Thanks for your concern! I'm alive and well.

Posted by: Doof at December 12, 2025 10:45 AM (CwUhY)

241 225 If you enter this country as an immigrant, and go on welfare, at any point in your life,

that should earn you an instant ride back home.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2025 10:35 AM (iJfKG)

My understanding is as an immigrant, you cannot get welfare. Meaning (if true) someone is on the take.
Posted by: Cow Demon

IIRC, refugees come in under separate provisions of the law. You can blame GHWB for that whole mess which also turned ME blue as well.

Refugee treaties always require people to go to the adjacent safest adjacent country, not fly them across the ocean to the US.

Our political class found refugee classification to be a useful way to bring in cheap labor for various tasks and the Democrats, welfare clients plus D voters.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 10:45 AM (WDjG6)

242 >>>FWIW, the phrase probably came into use because corn cobs were used for a certain necessary body function in lieu of pages from magazines or the Sears and Roebuck catalog.

The only way to win cornhole is not to play as WOPR (aka Joshua) said.

Posted by: whig

>Back at the bunkhouse, we always wrapped one page of the Sears and Roebuck around the corncob because it was too aggressive to crumple it up like modern-day paper.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 12, 2025 10:46 AM (1zOXE)

243 224 At Reuters: "Romania finds two masseuses with leprosy"

Well, at least their jobs don't bring them into intimate contact with other people. So there's that.
Posted by: gp
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"Have you engaged in rub and tug recently?" becomes a new screening question for doctors in Romania.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 10:47 AM (WDjG6)

244 Thanks for your concern! I'm alive and well.
Posted by: Doof

Good to hear!

I figured you were too smart to do something boneheaded like that anyway.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 10:47 AM (77rzZ)

245 215 If the sock isn't that dirty just wear it another day.
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus

Which fashion industry fag decreed that socks must match?

Posted by: Diversity Is Our Strength at December 12, 2025 10:47 AM (oftw2)

246 osted by: whig at December 12, 2025 10:39 AM (WDjG6)

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@whig

I belatedly saw your comment a couple days ago about having had "perfect pitch" (very cool!) prior to suffering from tinnitus (I now have and hate that) owing to Psoriatic Arthritis (PsA) -- which I'd never heard of (and so sorry to hear).

Anyway, you're probably already aware -- but if not (or others are not): I have a good friend who was afflicted with awful psoriasis for a couple of years (I think he was being treated with nitric oxide or something) and his skin would continuously crust up and bleed (he spend the night once and his bed sheets were all bloody).

He stumbled onto somebody (maybe Dr. Eric Berg?) who recommended 50,000 IU of Vitamin D daily -- and it quickly cured his psoriasis!

---------

[Piper responded:] "If you want to do this, please do it with your doctor. Short term, these doses under medical supervision may be okay. But VIT D toxicity is a thing, tummy upset, fatigue, etc. Plus, if you want to go at those levels, getting them in a shot form is easier."

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 10:48 AM (25a1J)

247 Isn't Doof on the disabled list with a bad knee or wheel, or something?

Posted by: I Pay Attention at December 12, 2025 10:49 AM (oftw2)

248 Which fashion industry fag decreed that socks must match?
Posted by: Diversity Is Our Strength

I've told the story here before about an extremely hot woman I used to work with. She let out a scream in the breakroom, and all the guys rushed to her rescue, only to find out that she had screamed upon discovering that her socks didn't match.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 10:50 AM (77rzZ)

249 Via Insty

81% of Somali households in Minnesota are on welfare.


Are Americans the only unserved economic refugees on this planet?

Posted by: t-bird at December 12, 2025 10:51 AM (T7fic)

250 >>> 118 Good news, everyone! Jesus is back!

Noted prosperity-gospel Televangelist Jesse Duplantis explains when you see him, you 'see the Father' and 'God incarnate.'

He later adds "you mad at me because I live in a mansion? I'm just acting like my father, because he's living in a mansion."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 09:56 AM (L/fGl)

What's the big deal?

Posted by: Anthony SCIENCE!!! Fauci at December 12, 2025 10:52 AM (ULPxl)

251
So, last night we were watching "As Good As It Gets" again, I think on Netflix, and I turns to the lovely and delightful Mrs naturalfake, and I says-

I says, "This is such a good movie. Great acting, writing, directing. I wonder why Ol' Brooks stopped making movies."

So, I look him up and, he's just released a new movie!

Buuuuut, almost all of the critics, straight up hate it, which makes me wonder if he somehow violated some libtardian principle and that set their hair on fire.

Christian Toto gives it a middling recommendation, so we may go see it. Maybe no. Just wait for streaming.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2025 10:52 AM (iJfKG)

252 Good to hear!

I figured you were too smart to do something boneheaded like that anyway.
Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 10:47 AM (77rzZ)


You give me too much credit

Posted by: Doof at December 12, 2025 10:53 AM (CwUhY)

253 "Just wait for streaming."

Always a safe choice.

Posted by: gp at December 12, 2025 10:53 AM (GHIyr)

254 . . .
He stumbled onto somebody (maybe Dr. Eric Berg?) who recommended 50,000 IU of Vitamin D daily -- and it quickly cured his psoriasis!

---------

[Piper responded:] "If you want to do this, please do it with your doctor. Short term, these doses under medical supervision may be okay. But VIT D toxicity is a thing, tummy upset, fatigue, etc. Plus, if you want to go at those levels, getting them in a shot form is easier."
Posted by: ShainS
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Thanks.
My new medication Rinvoq seems to be working at least for now. Finally got off from Cosentyx which never worked for me after insurance would not let me take Humira any longer. I will mention it to my rheumatologist but due to impending spinal surgery probably can't make any changes in meds for awhile.

I take Vitamin D3 supplements anyway as I am doubly cursed to get respiratory infections--via medication and a (genetic?) deficiency in IGG4 subtype.

FWIW, Quercetin is also a proven anti inflammatory and also anti seasonal allergen for some people. Also taken with zinc, has some anti viral applications. Took it too in the past until it interacted with one of my other meds.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 10:54 AM (WDjG6)

255 251 So, I look him up and, he's just released a new movie!

Buuuuut, almost all of the critics, straight up hate it, which makes me wonder if he somehow violated some libtardian principle and that set their hair on fire.

Christian Toto gives it a middling recommendation, so we may go see it. Maybe no. Just wait for streaming.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2025 10:52 AM (iJfKG)

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I will never quite understand this Brooks' popularity.

I mean, Broadcast News is fine. But, little more than that. And Hollywood loved him, and his movies made good money.

They always feel very middling to me, though I don't think I've seen As Good As It Gets all the way through.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 10:54 AM (GBKbO)

256
253 "Just wait for streaming."

Always a safe choice.

Posted by: gp at December 12, 2025 10:53 AM (GHIyr)

=======

"My God, Bones...what have I done?"
-Hollywood, having blown up theatrical to get Orange Man Bad

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 10:54 AM (GBKbO)

257 Isn't Doof on the disabled list with a bad knee or wheel, or something?
Posted by: I Pay Attention at December 12, 2025 10:49 AM (oftw2)


Wow, you do pay attention. Yup - haven't played in a month or so. Knee was in bad shape. But I'm on some good meds that took care of the swelling and inflammation. Probably back on the court this weekend to see how it goes.

Posted by: Doof at December 12, 2025 10:55 AM (CwUhY)

258 He later adds "you mad at me because I live in a mansion? I'm just acting like my father, because he's living in a mansion."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 12, 2025 09:56 AM (L/fGl)

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This plane I′m riding, they say it's leaving
For a place where we′ll never die
And the pilot will be my Jesus
To my mansion up in the sky

/obligatory

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 10:56 AM (25a1J)

259 Are Americans the only unserved economic refugees on this planet?
Posted by: t-bird
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Americans are viewed, even by some other Americans that should know better, as a lottery winner in the world. That means everyone in the world believes we have magic dirt and it is unfair to prevent all the world from enjoying our magic dirt.

Same as lottery winners are treated by those around them and even strangers: as a private welfare agency.

Somehow people feel they deserve what other people have in return for nothing.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 10:57 AM (WDjG6)

260 Those prosperity preachers are something else, and I don't mean that in a good way!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 10:58 AM (looXz)

261 I don't care what anyone says that word will never stop being funny.

Shuttlecock.
Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 10:27 AM


Spatchcock > shuttlecock

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 12, 2025 10:58 AM (kgE5c)

262 "Noted prosperity-gospel Televangelist Jesse Duplantis explains when you see him, you 'see the Father' and 'God incarnate.'"

Groan.

Ignore it...you will explain your own life choices to G-d, Who won't ask you anything about Jesse.

Proverbs 4:25
Let your eyes look directly forward, and your gaze be straight before you.
Phillipians 3:14
I, Paul, press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of G-d in Christ Jesus.

Posted by: ju at December 12, 2025 10:58 AM (EgpoY)

263 Those prosperity preachers are something else, and I don't mean that in a good way!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Prosperity gospel is a heresy.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 10:58 AM (77rzZ)

264 Why does it look like she has a limp?

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 12, 2025 10:59 AM (MeJZi)

265 Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 10:58 AM (77rzZ

Yes.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2025 10:59 AM (looXz)

266 258 This plane I′m riding, they say it's leaving
For a place where we′ll never die
And the pilot will be my Jesus
To my mansion up in the sky


i don't care if it rains or freezes
as long as i've got my plastic jesus
riding on the dashboard of my car

Posted by: anachronda at December 12, 2025 10:59 AM (v3pYe)

267 Prosperity preachers?

Scrooge would like a word with them.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 12, 2025 11:01 AM (MeJZi)

268 U nas yest' NOOD.

Posted by: Bulg at December 12, 2025 11:01 AM (77rzZ)

269 I don't think I've seen As Good As It Gets all the way through.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 10:54 AM (GBKbO)

Watch it. Right now. Go. Go!

Posted by: Robert, The Love Walrus at December 12, 2025 11:01 AM (1Yy3c)

270
nood Throck Buckmorton

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 12, 2025 11:01 AM (tljrc)

271 [snip]

FWIW, Quercetin is also a proven anti inflammatory and also anti seasonal allergen for some people. Also taken with zinc, has some anti viral applications. Took it too in the past until it interacted with one of my other meds.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 10:54 AM (WDjG6

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Wifey is into a long list of supplements (and apparently you need co-factor supplements along with Vitamin D3 like K2, Zinc, Magnesium Glysinate, and dietary fat -- but not with Iron as that competes with D3).

Along with a myriad of other vitamins, she's also taking DMSO, Collagen, Creatine, and straight Glycine.

Posted by: ShainS -- Bamboo Ruminant and GayFontoPhobe at December 12, 2025 11:02 AM (25a1J)

272 Remember:
Your average Republican didn't run for office because they were successful in private life.
They started life with a 99 yard head start in 100 yard dash, tripped over their feet, but found success in a single election.

I mean, not one Republican of the last 50 years had even half the fights Trump went through.

They're a bunch of faggoty ballet dancers prancing around the octagon confused at why the crowd isn't cheering for them.

"But I've rolled up my sleeves! I'm shadow punching the air! What more do you want?!"

Draw blood, bitch.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 12, 2025 11:03 AM (HXT0k)

273 Wow, you do pay attention. Yup - haven't played in a month or so. Knee was in bad shape. But I'm on some good meds that took care of the swelling and inflammation. Probably back on the court this weekend to see how it goes.
Posted by: Doof
=======
FWIW,
Warning, if you take steroid shots to the knee for pain, it can soften the cartilage for a time making it more likely to tear.

Also avoid K-flex, Levaquin, and other Fluoroquinolones as they can have the same effect of softening cartilege. Levaquin is now black labeled by the FDA because of it.

Botched ACL surgery with the initial tear possibly caused by Levaquin administration for sinus infection is what started me on my road to ruin.

Hyaluronic acid shots can also have separate side effects.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 11:03 AM (WDjG6)

274 So, I look him up and, he's just released a new movie!

Buuuuut, almost all of the critics, straight up hate it, which makes me wonder if he somehow violated some libtardian principle and that set their hair on fire.

Christian Toto gives it a middling recommendation, so we may go see it. Maybe no. Just wait for streaming.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2025 10:52 AM (iJfKG)

======

I will never quite understand this Brooks' popularity.

I mean, Broadcast News is fine. But, little more than that. And Hollywood loved him, and his movies made good money.

They always feel very middling to me, though I don't think I've seen As Good As It Gets all the way through.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, seeing life through the shadows with Otto Preminger at December 12, 2025 10:54 AM (GBKbO)


Ah, well. De gustibus and all that.

His writing is generally great. And I think his great gift is to make people feel"smart" for lack of a better word, while watching his movies filled with articulate people who still feel real, and you get to ride along.

He kind of reminds me of Paddy Chayefsky in that regard, except Ol Pads give you screaming drama instead of Ol Brooke's light comedy.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 12, 2025 11:04 AM (iJfKG)

275
Reuters: "Romania finds two masseuses with leprosy"

Well, at least their jobs don't bring them into intimate contact with other people. So there's that.
Posted by: gp


The next thing you know, Bulgaria will find three with leprosy. Balkan rivalries are serious, yo!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 12, 2025 11:05 AM (xG4kz)

276 224 At Reuters: "Romania finds two masseuses with leprosy"

Well, at least their jobs don't bring them into intimate contact with other people. So there's that.
Posted by: gp

Don't ask for the unhappy ending

Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 12, 2025 11:10 AM (Dv3i1)

277 Wifey is into a long list of supplements (and apparently you need co-factor supplements along with Vitamin D3 like K2, Zinc, Magnesium Glysinate, and dietary fat -- but not with Iron as that competes with D3).

Along with a myriad of other vitamins, she's also taking DMSO, Collagen, Creatine, and straight Glycine.
Posted by: ShainS
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Because of existing prescription meds, I am very careful about which supplements I take or even additional drugs which I keep to a minimum. Too many chances for interactions that simply are not even researched.

Basically, the psoriatic arthritis led to a condition of Ankylosing spondylitis which is in the process of fusing my spine. I take the Rinvoq as much to slow and stave out that as I do for the psoriatic arthritis. Before Rinvoq, I took Humira and then Cosentyx which are recommended for it.

The longer you have inflammatory arthritis, the more damage it does but you can and do go into remission at times. Over time, the inflammatory arthritis will pick and choose which other organs it will attack. In my case, the spine and inside one of my ears for whatever reason; in others, it will attack the heart, or other internal organs.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 11:11 AM (WDjG6)

278 His writing is generally great. And I think his great gift is to make people feel"smart" for lack of a better word, while watching his movies filled with articulate people who still feel real, and you get to ride along.

He kind of reminds me of Paddy Chayefsky in that regard, except Ol Pads give you screaming drama instead of Ol Brooke's light comedy.
Posted by: naturalfake
======
In his best films, I would agree with you. Brooks is the type that makes lemonade out of lemons in his movies which are never big on action or even much drama but are essentially snapshots into other people's lives. Even in his lesser films, his characters seem more real but flat to some because you don't get the big emotional highs or lows but instead witty urbanites muddling through.

Like Defending Your Life for example. Brooks is neither a great hero nor is he a despicable villain. He just seems average as does Meryl Streep and his trial which in other hands would seem to be dramatic, instead his character is more peevish and neurotic than dramatic. Rip Torn is the liveliest actor in that movie.

Posted by: whig at December 12, 2025 11:19 AM (WDjG6)

279 CBD asks some good questions that a "civilian" would ask...but an artist sees this work through an entirely different lens: of elements that make up the work, of tonalities, brushwork, etc.

that's why sometimes we really appreciate paintings that most of the world consider just "meh".

also, the embiggening trick was pretty good

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2025 11:26 AM (dCxaZ)

280 Live-in help using the back kitchen stairway from the an upper floor servants quarters. Somebody coming upstairs from a foyer or landing.

Posted by: LegoBrandon at December 12, 2025 01:42 PM (njAFV)

281 Because he already had the .45 ACP.

Posted by: Pooklord at December 12, 2025 05:25 PM (asU3w)

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