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CNN's Ratings Crash 44% in Post-Trump Outrage Desert

#DeathToCNN.

While January 2021 will go down in the ratings record books for CNN, the last week of the month may offer a portent of what the post-Trump era will be like for the network.

In the first week of the Biden administration, the AT&T-owned news channel saw the audiences that had been flooding into primetime recently drop precipitously on Jan. 25-29 compared with the highs of previous weeks. Meanwhile, rival Fox News Channel saw its own ratings only dip slightly after weeks of registering its own sharp declines.

Another network that has been characterized as left-leaning, MSNBC, has also seen significant declines but nowhere near as steep as what has hit CNN...

"Characterized as left-leaning."

While it's too early to conclude any longer-term direction for news ratings after just one week, the downturn could be interpreted as an indicator of what many industry observers had anticipated: With Biden in the White House, networks that have spent the last four years railing consistently against Trump have lost the main attraction that energized their audience bases, making it difficult to hold onto the elevated viewing levels.

Alas, this means that Fox will just assume that its mad dash to the left, its headlong Extreme Makeover into CNN-with-country-music, did not cause its own ratings fall. They'll revert to their previous assumption: That the dramatic fall in ratings was just a natural consequence of a demoralized audience, so they don't have to change anything.

Chris Wallace and Paul Ryan forever, yo.

Tucker Carlson had a good formulation about this: For five years, the "news" organizations' business model has simply been to gin up mass-hatred for Trump, and then get ratings by pandering to the hatred they'd created.

But Trump's gone now.

And yet, CNN and MSNBC and the networks still need ratings.

So now they're hunting anyone who supported Trump. That will be their next Ratings Generator.

As Carlson says, "Now that Trump's gone, you get to be Trump."

It's like Time Magazine chose the most hated villain in history: YOU.

But I guess that's really not the ratings draw that CNN needs it to be.

It's a non-Fox clip, so view without guilt. I have it cued to 7:13, just before he makes this particular point, but the whole opening monologue is good, as usual.

Posted by: Ace at 02:01 PM




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1 Fuck CNN.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 02, 2021 02:01 PM (KlM8i)

2 Lol, at this point all I can do is be delighted in their misery

Posted by: Mr pink at February 02, 2021 02:04 PM (zz2eN)

3 I don't even know what channel CNN is on. No need to know. I've no need of leftard propaganda. Could use more ammo though....

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 02, 2021 02:05 PM (o2MD2)

4 CNN and other media of their ilk is the schwerpunkt

They need attention, if they do not change. Look at the pre-Revolution Pravda editors. Not many survivors died of old age. All from their Left allies.

And when the Left is done, I want the Red Army in Berlin 1945 to say "Whoa. That's harsh."

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 02, 2021 02:05 PM (u82oZ)

5 Read the content!

Posted by: Cthillary, dead but dreaming at February 02, 2021 02:05 PM (FWn1L)

6 Top 10?!?

Posted by: Greyman27 at February 02, 2021 02:05 PM (RKLPC)

7 Game over, man. Game over!

Posted by: CNN Contributor Pvt Hudson at February 02, 2021 02:06 PM (4I/2K)

8 Fiery but mostly peaceful ratings decline

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at February 02, 2021 02:06 PM (ch6++)

9
When do you reckon the the DOJ will file fake charges against Marjorie Greene?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at February 02, 2021 02:06 PM (ODriZ)

10 We did it!

Posted by: Kathryn Murdoch at February 02, 2021 02:06 PM (yQpMk)

11 No one is gonna tune in for the Biden nightly felatio fest.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 02, 2021 02:06 PM (kTF2Z)

12 HAHA HA!!

Posted by: runner at February 02, 2021 02:06 PM (Iik29)

13 It must irk The Beast to know she got beat by Trump who in turn had to be cheated out of office only to be replaced by an artichoke.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 02, 2021 02:07 PM (o2MD2)

14 Out: OrangeManBad
In: Your next door neighbor is a domestic terrorist

Posted by: JebPilled at February 02, 2021 02:07 PM (QUqEV)

15 So now they're hunting anyone who supported Trump. That will be their next Ratings Generator.

-----

Or anyone who raped AOC, which could give them another 10 years of life ...

Posted by: ShainS at February 02, 2021 02:07 PM (nWht4)

16 CNN's Ratings Crash 44% in Post-Trump Outrage Desert

Is this before or after they lost the airport contracts?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 02, 2021 02:07 PM (yQpMk)

17 Burn

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 02, 2021 02:07 PM (ifmtJ)

18

"Characterized as left-leaning."

Some say

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 02, 2021 02:07 PM (63Dwl)

19 so cnn is down and faux is in free fall...so no one is watching news at all...I am not. I used to be on the News on TV all day...mostly what was then Fox. Now no news on tv ever. I get what I need from the internet

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 02, 2021 02:08 PM (85Gof)

20 Remember when Trump called out the press for their structural problems of their Trump obsession, and declared that their ratings would crash whenever he was out office and that they need him?

Yeah, about that...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2021 02:08 PM (UZVEt)

21 Left-leaning?

Hell, MSNBC isn't leaning to the left, it's horizontal.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2021 02:08 PM (c9t1s)

22 Ace isn't kidding. Trump supporters are to be labeled as domestic terrorists and hounded. Possibly imprisioned. For daring to vote.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 02, 2021 02:09 PM (ifmtJ)

23 Cthillary, dead but dreaming

Good nic!

Hillary Clinton

Ah, the really scary one has arrived. A great Old One from the outer cosmos.

Everyone make a saving throw for sanity.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 02, 2021 02:09 PM (u82oZ)

24 I guess having Karl Marx's dick dick so far down your throat it's sticking out of your ass makes you left leaning.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 02, 2021 02:09 PM (o2MD2)

25 CNN lost viewers for the same reason people stop rubbernecking traffic accidents, the carnage has been removed.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2021 02:10 PM (xfb67)

26 NGU I finally cut the cable recently, years too late, but haven't seen 15 minutes of TV "news" in 15 years, and that mostly in clips I seek out for whatever reason.

When exposed to the garbage cartoons for retards known as "news" when traveling, my wonder, and despair, at the ignorance and idiocy of our society have only grown.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 02, 2021 02:10 PM (OTzUX)

27 Well, it makes sense. The old enemy is gone so now they need a new one.

Posted by: Vanya at February 02, 2021 02:11 PM (gAFsE)

28 13 It must irk The Beast to know she got beat by Trump who in turn had to be cheated out of office only to be replaced by an artichoke.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 02, 2021 02:07 PM (o2MD2)


Reflect, for a moment, on how Hillarhoid and Algore must feel. They were found unworthy, but a Memory Care outpatient got the prize, and a curry-breath slut is in the on-deck circle.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2021 02:11 PM (c9t1s)

29 24 I guess having Karl Marx's dick dick so far down your throat it's sticking out of your ass makes you left leaning.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 02, 2021 02:09 PM (o2MD2)

Karl Marx had a small antelope?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2021 02:11 PM (xfb67)

30
It's like Time Magazine chose the most hated villain in history: YOU.

https://tinyurl.com/o8dqcwm

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 02, 2021 02:11 PM (63Dwl)

31
So just when I thought I was wrong about NY-22 being stolen (they tried), the saga continues.

The NY "judge" is still trying to steal the election and put a hold on the certification of results. The Democrat loser is demanding a full hand recount on account of, get this, voting machine irregularities.

It's lost on everyone that this is going while President Trump is about fake-convicted in the fake Senate for claiming the exact same thing as the loser Democrat in NY-22.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at February 02, 2021 02:11 PM (ODriZ)

32 22 Ace isn't kidding. Trump supporters are to be labeled as domestic terrorists and hounded. Possibly imprisioned. For daring to vote.
------------------------------------------------------

Nah, that'd never happen. Not in a million years... hey, hang on... there's someone at my door.

Posted by: 496 at February 02, 2021 02:12 PM (U1eOr)

33 Burn, CNN, burn. I hate these people so this is great news.But mostly, people are just not watching news anymore because they are slowly beginning to realize (like the Chinese population has already done) that it's just propaganda 24/7.

Posted by: charlotte the sailor The dims SUCK at February 02, 2021 02:12 PM (jMEOg)

34 New Normal

Posted by: jsg at February 02, 2021 02:12 PM (HDVbd)

35 Yeah Buddy

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at February 02, 2021 02:13 PM (R5lpX)

36 Watched the TuCa clip up until the real-life "Wolf of Wall Street" came on. If your "Wolf of Wall Street" doesn't have nekkid Margot Robbie, I aint watchin it!!!!

Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund) at February 02, 2021 02:13 PM (mZUr4)

37 When exposed to the garbage cartoons for retards known as "news" when traveling, my wonder, and despair, at the ignorance and idiocy of our society have only grown.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 02, 2021 02:10 PM (OTzUX)

I recognize that feeling

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 02, 2021 02:13 PM (ifmtJ)

38 Ace isn't kidding. Trump supporters are to be labeled as domestic terrorists and hounded. Possibly imprisioned. For daring to vote

===

Two words "Lincoln Project".

Posted by: runner at February 02, 2021 02:13 PM (Iik29)

39 AOC is a self raping entity

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 02, 2021 02:13 PM (6KlTa)

40 Schadenfreude's always appropriate, I guess, but meh.

The dumbest, worst, most alien people in the country now get to run it (again), and probably half the population or more don't care, or support it. After effectively cancelling a presidency (about which the public also knows almost nothing).

Posted by: rhomboid at February 02, 2021 02:14 PM (OTzUX)

41

Rep. Jackie Speier (D-CA) said Democrats should start labeling Republicans as terrorists in a tweet posted on Monday.

"The Republicans have been calling Democrats the radical left. Time to call Republicans the terrorist right?," she wrote on Twitter.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 02, 2021 02:14 PM (63Dwl)

42 The show trial is just payback to the media for their air cover during the election.

They def want to try Trump for treason but they also need to help the media with their next two mins of hate.

Posted by: MJ at February 02, 2021 02:14 PM (gAMkn)

43 Responce to shane

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 02, 2021 02:15 PM (6KlTa)

44 19 so cnn is down and faux is in free fall...so no one is watching news at all...I am not. I used to be on the News on TV all day...mostly what was then Fox. Now no news on tv ever. I get what I need from the internet
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 02, 2021 02:08 PM (85Gof)

Nice, I can just cut and paste.
Thx, NGU.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 02, 2021 02:15 PM (sy5kK)

45 More than the Trump Vacuum, though, there is of course more going on. All outlets:
- are the same and run the same party line
- lie to the audience, and do so in the same manner
- have a mix of 60% opinion, 38% outrage and 2% pseudo-news
- have on-air talent that looks, sounds and "thinks" the same
- are aggressive and shouty

The audience has crashed across the board for everyone, news and entertainment and movies. t means they're not serving the customer.

Something has to give. I see two possibilities:
A. People will create new news and entertainment products to appeal to an audience that actually exists.
B. They will all be consolidated as a singular, state-controlled media outlet

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2021 02:15 PM (UZVEt)

46 We can all hang together, or separately. At least together we can make a random pop culture quote before they drop the floor.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at February 02, 2021 02:15 PM (jvt6t)

47 Well they still have Trump supporters to go after. Although I don't t know how far mean girl reporters going after local granny and granpa (racists!) will get them.

Posted by: Ripley at February 02, 2021 02:15 PM (MxEKc)

48 May have miss spelld that

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at February 02, 2021 02:16 PM (6KlTa)

49 26 NGU I finally cut the cable recently, years too late, but haven't seen 15 minutes of TV "news" in 15 years, and that mostly in clips I seek out for whatever reason.

When exposed to the garbage cartoons for retards known as "news" when traveling, my wonder, and despair, at the ignorance and idiocy of our society have only grown.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 02, 2021 02:10 PM (OTzUX)


Same here. Once on the road, my family and I were subjected to national "news" in a low-rent diner. The national "news" consisted of 22 minutes of neuron-killing stories, which IIRC, comprised: the head dago accused of adultery (imagine), Asian tiger moms pushing their children to study (imagine^2), and concluding with a hard-hitting story about a grannie knitting wool caps for people of melanin.

I'm not making this up.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2021 02:16 PM (c9t1s)

50 They should immediately declare all trump supporters domestic terrorists and automatic felons and then come and collect our illegally owned firearms.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 02, 2021 02:16 PM (o2MD2)

51 CNN positioning itself to be government media.

Posted by: squid_hunt at February 02, 2021 02:16 PM (B0mGw)

52 Won't CNN viewers get sick of four years' worth of covering us domestic terrorists sitting at home.

Posted by: Ziba at February 02, 2021 02:17 PM (S1hrL)

53 It's like Time Magazine chose the most hated villain in history: YOU.

https://tinyurl.com/o8dqcwm
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 02, 2021 02:11 PM (63Dwl)
++++
When I was applying for jobs, I strongly considered putting "Time Magazine's 2006 Person of the Year" in the "other information" section. If I got a resume with that listed, I'd interview the guy. I wouldn't have any other choice. I'd have to know whether he was a moron or a lunatic or a troll or whatever...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2021 02:17 PM (UZVEt)

54 Oh shit, how am I gonna get a job there now!?!?!

*Rushes to Twitter to say how the Republican party is just like Hitler as often as possible*

Posted by: E. Erickson at February 02, 2021 02:17 PM (Ojki1)

55 Starship is fueling up.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 02, 2021 02:17 PM (yQpMk)

56 Something has to give. I see two possibilities:
A. People will create new news and entertainment products to appeal to an audience that actually exists.
B. They will all be consolidated as a singular, state-controlled media outlet
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

---

It will be option B.

For a time.

Posted by: SMH at February 02, 2021 02:17 PM (U2EjU)

57 23 Cthillary, dead but dreaming

Good nic!

Hillary Clinton

Ah, the really scary one has arrived. A great Old One from the outer cosmos.

Everyone make a saving throw for sanity.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 02, 2021 02:09 PM (u82oZ)

Biden is Azathoth - the blind idiot god

Posted by: josephistan at February 02, 2021 02:17 PM (Izzlo)

58 CNN: "Yay, president Trump is gone!"

Advertisers: "You're ratings say that without orangmanbad, you've lost 40% of your audience. We expect a discount or, we're going elsewhere."

CNN: "Uh oh." "Quick, emergency orangmanbad standin!"

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 02, 2021 02:17 PM (WEBkv)

59 House races and primaries can be over-turned for fraud and irregularities. Presidential elections, not so much. Not even when the clear constitutional process for setting the conduct of elections is brazenly ignored.

Alito, Thomas, the 3 new ones - well done!

Posted by: rhomboid at February 02, 2021 02:18 PM (OTzUX)

60 It will be option B.

For a time.
Posted by: SMH at February 02, 2021 02:17 PM (U2EjU)
++++
Yes, of course.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2021 02:18 PM (UZVEt)

61 Cutting cable was one of the best things I've done for my sanity.

Posted by: Bosk at February 02, 2021 02:18 PM (SWbVS)

62 @45 Joe Mannix
"The audience has crashed across the board for everyone, news and entertainment and movies. t means they're not serving the customer."

Joe, I agree with this 100% corporations are now telling their customers what they can and cannot have. They've forgotten the first rule of sales: The customer is always right. I think it's just another symptom of the cultural rot in America. The field is barren and it's due to central planners and their derange, obsessive control issues.

Posted by: squid_hunt at February 02, 2021 02:18 PM (B0mGw)

63 It's lost on everyone that this is going while President Trump is about fake-convicted in the fake Senate for claiming the exact same thing as the loser Democrat in NY-22.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales

-----

Governor Tank Abrams will be a future POTUS now that we have humiliation elections, but "Trump is unfit for the office."

Posted by: ShainS at February 02, 2021 02:18 PM (nWht4)

64 I still get their news flashes on my tablet.

Posted by: Skip at February 02, 2021 02:18 PM (Cxk7w)

65 Since I dumped cable TV over a decade ago, I wouldn't know who advertisers on CNN. However, I bet Mike Lindell would be willing to buy some ad time (at a steep discount).

And I'm sure the bean counters at CNN would, at the very least, have to seriously consider it, given the abyss they're falling into.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at February 02, 2021 02:19 PM (ch6++)

66 Rep. Jackie Speier (D-CA) said Democrats should start labeling Republicans as terrorists in a tweet posted on Monday.

The Democrat not even Jim Jones thought was worth killing.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2021 02:19 PM (c9t1s)

67 B. They will all be consolidated as a singular, state-controlled media outlet
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2021 02:15 PM (UZVEt)
---------------

That's already happened. But, the state didn't have to control the media outlets. They did it on their own.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 02, 2021 02:20 PM (WEBkv)

68 Do they care? Are their profits tied to ratings? I am skeptical.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 02, 2021 02:20 PM (KbCG3)

69 Karl Marx had a small antelope?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2021 02:11 PM (xfb67)

---------

Nah, you're thinking of the nyuk nyuk. They travel in threes.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 02, 2021 02:20 PM (kTF2Z)

70 I'd tell CNN staff to #LearnToCode but Bidet is going to H1 Visa or encourage outsourcing all those jobs.

Given their skill set I guess that leave #LearnToHandjob.

Posted by: Bete at February 02, 2021 02:20 PM (Ojki1)

71 With both CNN and Fox crashing
where is everyone going ?
I doubt OAN and Newsmax as they are not as accessible for many with cable.

Maybe everyone is simply tuning out of TV
and their blood pressure is lowering by the day

Posted by: McCool at February 02, 2021 02:20 PM (BqBIh)

72
It's simple. I figure they're going to use Twitter to persecute people. If you supported President Trump on twitter, the Left will find out where you work and contact your employer and demand you be fired.

The Left will find out where your kids go to school and demand the school expel your kids. If you own a business, the Left will find out who does business with you and demand they cease.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at February 02, 2021 02:20 PM (ODriZ)

73 As someone noted yesterday, CNNs actual problem is that the smartest people there are Tater and Tapper. That is their brain trust. Because it sure aint Don Lemon, Wolf Blitzer, or Fredo Cuomo.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 02, 2021 02:20 PM (rSndM)

74 34 New Normal

Posted by: jsg

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"Brave New Normal." [h/t Dan Smoot's Apprentice]

Posted by: ShainS at February 02, 2021 02:20 PM (nWht4)

75 Given their skill set I guess that leave #LearnToHandjob.
Posted by: Bete at February 02, 2021 02:20 PM (Ojki1)
++++
Given their high positions in American media, you can be sure that those skills are already acquired. Along with the other kinds of "jobs."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2021 02:21 PM (UZVEt)

76 I don't even know what channel CNN is on.

Don't have cable. For years the wife was opposed to cutting the cable. For years they added channels I didn't care about, paid more for channels I didn't care about.

Showed the wife the cable bill one day and, without hesitation, she said, "Cancel it."

Now if I could just get her to let me kill Netflix.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 02, 2021 02:21 PM (EjmvJ)

77 That never made sense to me. Trump was ratings gold for the MSM and they did all they could to get rid of him. Not just TV news either, social media, magazines, political book publishers, podcasts, etc.

They killed the golden goose 4 years early.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at February 02, 2021 02:21 PM (P1G83)

78 Hell, MSNBC isn't leaning to the left, it's horizontal.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2021 02:08 PM (c9t1s)

That was true, once. Now MSNBC appeals to gullible upper class whites trying to get on board with the neoliberal agenda. Of course, Fox appeals to low rent whites who think neocons are their bestest friends, so that might explain why cable news is increasingly cratering.

Posted by: trev006 at February 02, 2021 02:21 PM (usT3X)

79 Maybe everyone is simply tuning out of TV
and their blood pressure is lowering by the day
Posted by: McCool at February 02, 2021 02:20 PM (BqBIh)
++++
This is *probably* a lot of the story. The audience isn't necessarily shifting to other outlets, it might just be shrinking. A lot of it has gone to streaming, but likely not enough. I strongly suspect the "per-capita hours of media consumption per annum" level - if it were measurable - is dropping.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2021 02:22 PM (UZVEt)

80
Department of Unity

or Ministry of Unity

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at February 02, 2021 02:22 PM (ODriZ)

81 73 As someone noted yesterday, CNNs actual problem is that the smartest people there are Tater and Tapper. That is their brain trust. Because it sure aint Don Lemon, Wolf Blitzer, or Fredo Cuomo.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 02, 2021 02:20 PM (rSndM)

That's a powerhouse line-up. Lemon brings in the gay, Blitzer brings in chinless people with beards, and Cuomo brings in roid ragers from Jersey.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2021 02:22 PM (xfb67)

82 Unity Force.

Posted by: runner at February 02, 2021 02:23 PM (Iik29)

83 No news is good news.

Posted by: Joe Mama at February 02, 2021 02:23 PM (vD+8F)

84 CNN isn't there to make money, but if they are not influencing people that's a problem.

As people move to new venues to get their news, these will be co-opted or deleted.

Posted by: JebPilled at February 02, 2021 02:23 PM (QUqEV)

85 CREEPY JACKALOPE EYE

https://www.youtube.com
/watch?v=MCh0bLxqtHQ

Posted by: The Supersuckers at February 02, 2021 02:23 PM (DupXx)

86 What has this Marjorie Taylor Greene woman said that has everyone screaming for her head?

Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2021 02:24 PM (dR6lV)

87 All news flashes are turned off.
I care not what Tim Cook or Alphabet wants me to know.

"The news doesn't tell you what to think.
It tells you what to think about."
_Howard K. Smith

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 02, 2021 02:24 PM (9v1sv)

88

I wish I knew how to quit you, Trump.

Sometimes I miss you so much I can hardly stand it.

Posted by: broke back brian stelter at February 02, 2021 02:24 PM (iBsXG)

89 Psaki laughs about question about Space Force. Then says she will have 'The Team' will ask their Space Force contact, though she doesn't know who that might be.

Gee, Space Force is only responsible for the GPS System, and all military space-based comm, weather, and surveillance assets. Yup, it's all laughable stuff.


Posted by: Gref at February 02, 2021 02:24 PM (AMIL/)

90 @72 Soothsayer
"I figure they're going to use Twitter to persecute people."

Go anonymous. I realize there's no such thing in reality, but it's much more egregious to the public if they break into your private accounts and dox you. Although it's probably coming next.

The other strategy is to use strict discipline on posting. Never say anything privately you wouldn't say publicly and base it in rational argument.

And stand by your statements. They aren't looking for wrong-doing. They're looking for you to express guilt. If they can shame you, they win. If you have to say "I was wrong" say it, but don't give in just because someone is yelling at you. They need to break you.

Posted by: squid_hunt at February 02, 2021 02:24 PM (B0mGw)

91 Now if I could just get her to let me kill Netflix.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic


AOC to file murder charges in ....

Posted by: Joe Mama at February 02, 2021 02:24 PM (vD+8F)

92 Psaki laughs about question about Space Force. Then says she will have 'The Team' will ask their Space Force contact, though she doesn't know who that might be.

Gee, Space Force is only responsible for the GPS System, and all military space-based comm, weather, and surveillance assets. Yup, it's all laughable stuff.
Posted by: Gref at February 02, 2021 02:24 PM (AMIL/)
++++
Remember when we had a series of press secretaries who knew answers and provided them with a lot of anti-press invective? That was nice.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2021 02:25 PM (UZVEt)

93 Psaki circle jerk back to you.

Posted by: Archer at February 02, 2021 02:25 PM (gmo/4)

94 " watch this guy tell you". I love Carlson's unspoken disdain for Kimmel. Doesn't mention his name.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ne Obliviscaris at February 02, 2021 02:25 PM (p73dd)

95 It still boggles my mind that no one has stopped to go, "Wait a minute, our ratings are crashing, yet, people are stuck at home?"

A 40% share loss is probably understating the actual loss.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 02, 2021 02:25 PM (WEBkv)

96 Responce to shane

Posted by: Bill D. Cat

---

Yes, liked it -- sounds like a new 58th gender, if not life form: "I identify as a Self-Raping Entity."

Posted by: ShainS at February 02, 2021 02:25 PM (fGud3)

97 If you've ever been in a relationship that was very contentious, racked with jealousy and arguments you will likely what is happening or will be happening with your conservative friends.

Some people fight in a marriage in hopes of settling problems. Some because they enjoy the drama and dominance. Some because they sincerely feel betrayed.

On the rarest of occasions, the passionate arguing lasts forever. But in the vast majority of cases, either ones side just learns to shut up. Sometimes it's acquiescence, lest they get smacked around.

Sometimes it's because their soul is dead and they no longer care. These are the people that are opening secret bank accounts, hiding money, and are already banging someone else. And when you yell at them, you occasionally catch a glimpse of a smirk on their face. They aren't scared, they are leaving.

And this will be the way of the conservative, there is no point in arguing over what is unsalvageable.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 02, 2021 02:25 PM (nN1Di)

98 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2021 02:25 PM (UZVEt)

But ours lied. Psaki is getting true confirmation!

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at February 02, 2021 02:26 PM (a8b7P)

99 47 Well they still have Trump supporters to go after. Although I don't t know how far mean girl reporters going after local granny and granpa (racists!) will get them.
Posted by: Ripley at February 02, 2021 02:15 PM (MxEKc)


They'd have to sandwich in such reports in between their coverage of cats rescued from trees.

Srsly, why does anyone watch local news?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2021 02:26 PM (c9t1s)

100 Twitter share prices is back to almost its all time high. So much for the conservative exodus causing pain.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at February 02, 2021 02:26 PM (P1G83)

101 Big Tech will probably decide to buy up many of these MSM outlets to use as their lobbying/PR firms. No particular reason to just let movie/tv studios and cable companies keep having all the fun manipulating the public for corporate gain.

Posted by: All Just Part of the Plan at February 02, 2021 02:26 PM (dYe5S)

102 No news is good news.
Posted by: Joe Mama


I get all my news from AoSHQ. And I'm usually hours ahead of my wife.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2021 02:26 PM (lmYrx)

103 It still boggles my mind that no one has stopped to go, "Wait a minute, our ratings are crashing, yet, people are stuck at home?"

A 40% share loss is probably understating the actual loss.
Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 02, 2021 02:25 PM (WEBkv)
++++
TV shows. Movies. Sports. It all should have skyrocketed during the lockdowns. Instead, it all crashed. It crashed bigly. That ought to give the power class pause, but it won't.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2021 02:26 PM (UZVEt)

104 Remember when we had a series of press secretaries who knew answers and provided them with a lot of anti-press invective? That was nice.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2021 02:25 PM (UZVEt)
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Kayleigh was always well prepared, but, she also showed the media just how stupid they were.

Best guess: The press loves Psaki because they are now dealing with someone who is arguably dumber than they are.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 02, 2021 02:27 PM (WEBkv)

105 Who's Emmanuel Goldstein?

You are.

I am.

We are.

Big Brother Joe is not happy with us.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....Outlaw in America at February 02, 2021 02:27 PM (tjZg/)

106 93 Psaki circle jerk back to you.
Posted by: Archer at February 02, 2021 02:25 PM (gmo/4)


CircleBack Mountain.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2021 02:27 PM (c9t1s)

107 86 What has this Marjorie Taylor Greene woman said that has everyone screaming for her head?
Posted by: JoeF. at February 02, 2021 02:24 PM (dR6lV)

I believe it was that Greene said there was election fraud on Nov 3. And she didn't back down when hounded. So now the Demo-Uni-Progda machine is screaming ELEVENTY! until she resigns, or something.
And the Turtle has gotten in on slamming her. Yep, the CCP Cocaine Mitch, with his Chinese deal-making wife.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 02, 2021 02:27 PM (sy5kK)

108 100s?

Two FBI were killed and three wounded
serving a warrant at 6 A.M. this morning.

tinyurl.com/1heif3wz

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 02, 2021 02:27 PM (9v1sv)

109 @disclosetv 10m

NEW - New study that concluded conservatives have pushed "disinformation" by accusing Big Tech firms of anti-conservative bias was funded by Craig Newmark, the billionaire founder of Craigslist, who contributed $100,000 to help Joe Biden's presidential campaign (Daily Caller)

Posted by: Tami at February 02, 2021 02:28 PM (cF8AT)

110 Sometimes it's because their soul is dead and they no longer care. These are the people that are opening secret bank accounts, hiding money, and are already banging someone else. And when you yell at them, you occasionally catch a glimpse of a smirk on their face. They aren't scared, they are leaving.

And this will be the way of the conservative, there is no point in arguing over what is unsalvageable.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 02, 2021 02:25 PM (nN1Di)

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Or, you could be like my parents and live on different floors of their home for 25 years.

Posted by: SMH at February 02, 2021 02:28 PM (U2EjU)

111 Pretty much irrelevant too, of course.

Look around the country. Look at who's in office, what it's possible to say in public.

However a large % of the populace gets its "information", it's thoroughly misinformed. On top of pretty ignorant, lacking a framework, and usually unable to think critically.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 02, 2021 02:28 PM (OTzUX)

112 Best guess: The press loves Psaki because they are now dealing with someone who is arguably dumber than they are.
Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 02, 2021 02:27 PM (WEBkv)


Well, that would explain all the money changing hands whenever she says something stupid. Gotta settle up on those bets.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2021 02:28 PM (c9t1s)

113 Greene mentioned Soros so she is literally Hitler now.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at February 02, 2021 02:28 PM (P1G83)

114 Twitter shares are what the oligarchy wants them to be I think we have learned these last two weeks.
Right?

Posted by: Skip at February 02, 2021 02:29 PM (Cxk7w)

115 I strongly suspect the "per-capita hours of media consumption per annum" level - if it were measurable - is dropping.

I suspect you're correct. Insofar as "media" is concerned, the younger generation has shifted to more interactive formats.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 02, 2021 02:29 PM (EjmvJ)

116 Erick Erickson knows exactly who could save CNN's ratings.
-- Erick Erickson

Posted by: Erick Erickson at February 02, 2021 02:29 PM (786Ro)

117 I feel so much better now that all those nasty Trump tweets are gone....

Posted by: Louis Wainwright Cuckingham II, GOP pearl necklace clutcher at February 02, 2021 02:29 PM (KlM8i)

118 Two FBI were killed and three wounded
serving a warrant at 6 A.M. this morning.

tinyurl.com/1heif3wz
Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 02, 2021 02:27 PM (9v1sv)


Good riddance.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at February 02, 2021 02:30 PM (jOcSX)

119 108

Ham and eggs pay respect.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at February 02, 2021 02:30 PM (P1G83)

120 "CNN-with-country-music"


That never gets old.

Posted by: Jesus Built My Hot Rod at February 02, 2021 02:30 PM (JtRzJ)

121 However a large % of the populace gets its "information", it's thoroughly misinformed. On top of pretty ignorant, lacking a framework, and usually unable to think critically.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 02, 2021 02:28 PM (OTzUX)


A very good friend of mine - a Ph.D. scientist and professor, no less - was unaware that anyone had breathed a word of doubt about the validity of the election.

And yes, he's an avid reader of the LAT, his sole source of news.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2021 02:30 PM (c9t1s)

122 Not watching MSM news means you are uninformed (LIV's)


Watching MSM news makes you are misinformed (libs)


Seeing the MSM as fake news makes you non-brainwashed (conservatives)

Posted by: Ripley at February 02, 2021 02:30 PM (MxEKc)

123 107 LeftCoastDawg,
Marjorie is laughing all the way to the bank. She has received about 1.6 million in campaign funds from small donors. McConnell denouncing her is likely to spike that total further.

The real trick to independence from the parties in Congress is to actually try to represent people and run your own campaign finance operation. Ron Paul did the same in his day which let him go off the GOP reservation.

On a personal level, that is how McConnell keeps his caucus in line is through his affiliated leadership PAC.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 02:31 PM (pO7gM)

124 Or, you could be like my parents and live on different floors of their home for 25 years.

Posted by: SMH at February 02, 2021 02:28 PM (U2EjU)

......

Living together in hatred is another option.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 02, 2021 02:31 PM (nN1Di)

125 I get all my news from AoSHQ. And I'm usually hours ahead of my wife.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2021 02:26 PM (lmYrx)

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My hub will usually come home with "did you hear __?

"Yep, on the HQ."

Posted by: SMH at February 02, 2021 02:31 PM (U2EjU)

126 And the Turtle has gotten in on slamming her. Yep, the CCP Cocaine Mitch, with his Chinese deal-making wife.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 02, 2021 02:27 PM (sy5kK)


Supporting the Turtle has been problematic. At some point his shills have to tire of waking up bleeding from their asses and with empty wallets.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at February 02, 2021 02:31 PM (y7DUB)

127 AT&T owns CNN and they have serious debt issues along with being led by ruling class retards

Maybe Tater can get a job installing solar panels or filling in abandoned mining shafts

Posted by: kbdabear at February 02, 2021 02:31 PM (qAR6u)

128 125 I get all my news from AoSHQ. And I'm usually hours ahead of my wife.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2021 02:26 PM (lmYrx)

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My hub will usually come home with "did you hear __?

"Yep, on the HQ."
Posted by: SMH at February 02, 2021 02:31 PM (U2EjU)

About a hour ago my husband said to me, "Have you seen this white rapper who....."

Me: Yep, yesterday. Fake Woke.

Posted by: Tami at February 02, 2021 02:32 PM (cF8AT)

129 The news is the same on all the channels. No one wants to hear how awful they are from their betters. We know they are lying to us about everything anyway, so why pay them to hate us. It's bad enough that we pay the scum in DC to hate us.

Posted by: megthered at February 02, 2021 02:32 PM (SM/op)

130 126 And the Turtle has gotten in on slamming her. Yep, the CCP Cocaine Mitch, with his Chinese deal-making wife.


And backing Chaney....

Posted by: It's me donna at February 02, 2021 02:32 PM (Zmnko)

131 Two FBI were killed and three wounded
serving a warrant at 6 A.M. this morning.

tinyurl.com/1heif3wz
Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 02, 2021 02:27 PM (9v1sv)


I'll translate the article:

"injured" --> "wounded"
"deceased" --> "dead"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2021 02:32 PM (c9t1s)

132 I feel so much better now that all those nasty Trump tweets are gone....

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Oh they are still out there, in the shadows, just waiting to strike...

Posted by: Corporate Press at February 02, 2021 02:33 PM (QUqEV)

133 My hub will usually come home with "did you hear __?

"Yep, on the HQ."
Posted by: SMH at February 02, 2021 02:31 PM (U2EjU)
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I find the HQ tends to be hours, if not days, ahead of the news curve.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 02, 2021 02:33 PM (WEBkv)

134 My hub will usually come home with "did you hear __?

"Yep, on the HQ."
Posted by: SMH


LOL.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2021 02:33 PM (lmYrx)

135 I find the HQ tends to be hours, if not days, ahead of the news curve.
Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 02, 2021 02:33 PM (WEBkv)

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Yep.

Posted by: SMH at February 02, 2021 02:34 PM (U2EjU)

136 How incompetent is the government if they lose two officers and have 3 others injured just trying to hand someone a piece of paper.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 02, 2021 02:34 PM (nN1Di)

137 Won't CNN viewers get sick of four years' worth of covering us domestic terrorists sitting at home.

Posted by: Ziba

-----

They'll hire actors and write, direct, and produce false flag operations like The Storming of the Capitol by MAGA-wearing domestic terrorists.

They will likely stage a school shooting as the pretext for banning all firearms and ammo (with an exception of course for ruling class bodyguards). #Soon.

As I regularly ask now after every preposterous-sounding idea proposed or imaginable: Who is going to stop them?

Posted by: ShainS at February 02, 2021 02:34 PM (fGud3)

138 Best guess: The press loves Psaki because they are now dealing with someone who is arguably dumber than they are.
==
and don't forget: Less Prepared

that's a hard combo to find!!!

Posted by: white house press corpse at February 02, 2021 02:34 PM (vhWcP)

139 Best guess: The press loves Psaki because they are now dealing with someone who is arguably dumber than they are.
Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 02, 2021 02:27 PM (WEBkv)


Weren't she and Harf hired at State when Lurch was fucking everything up? Surely not being intellectually superior to that lantern jawed goof was the first job requirement.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at February 02, 2021 02:34 PM (y7DUB)

140 No launch yet?

Posted by: creeper at February 02, 2021 02:35 PM (XxJt1)

141 136 How incompetent is the government if they lose two officers and have 3 others injured just trying to hand someone a piece of paper.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 02, 2021 02:34 PM (nN1Di)

I think it was a search warrant for child porn. The perp supposedly killed himself.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2021 02:35 PM (xfb67)

142 Fact: Having diverse voices is important in a democracy such as ours.

Logic: Add a new tax to individual stock market investors to support CNN.

Feelings: Your feelings on this matter are irrelevant as my facts and logic are irrefutable.

Posted by: Benji at February 02, 2021 02:35 PM (EpDzw)

143 13 It must irk The Beast to know she got beat by Trump who in turn had to be cheated out of office only to be replaced by an artichoke.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 02, 2021 02:07 PM (o2MD2)

Sundown Joe isn't long for the office, and when Kameltoe takes over she'll be "convinced" that Hillary "is the most highly qualified person EVAH" to be appointed VP

At that point, Kameltoe will come down with a mystery illness, slip and fall in the shower, or mysteriously hang herself with her own pantyhose

Posted by: kbdabear at February 02, 2021 02:35 PM (qAR6u)

144 Florida not a good location for FBI agents.

Posted by: Mr.Meeseeks, Look at me at February 02, 2021 02:35 PM (kwakj)

145 And the only hope (still improbably slim as it is) - conviction of Trump in the ludicrous impeachment, part deux - won't happen. So, no GOP doing its B53 imitation and detonating at the megaton level. Just a few regular suspect idiots - Romney, Murk - joining the mob. Though if the snippet someone posted here about Cruz whining about Trump's "intemperate speech", or something along those lines, is correct, who knows. Maybe there's still "hope"?

Posted by: rhomboid at February 02, 2021 02:36 PM (OTzUX)

146 About a hour ago my husband said to me, "Have you seen this white rapper who....."

Me: Yep, yesterday. Fake Woke.
Posted by: Tami


The depth of knowledge on this place is super scary. Not just historical knowledge, but current events like only hours old. It's truly amazing and humbling.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2021 02:36 PM (lmYrx)

147 The godless commies got away with murdering Ashli Babbit. So far.

Posted by: Eromero at February 02, 2021 02:36 PM (em79L)

148 Best guess: The press loves Psaki because they are now dealing with someone who is arguably dumber than they are.
==
and don't forget: Less Prepared


Psaki must have ...skillz. She just must.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2021 02:36 PM (c9t1s)

149 A comment on the current state of national affairs in a video format.
Also known as "Biden and Kamala seen hauling the Democrat policies and platforms down main street."

https://m.___ur.com/gallery/PlXlB1K

Posted by: TSgtCiz at February 02, 2021 02:36 PM (I1oxk)

150 Psaki started out working for PIAPS in the State Dept.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 02, 2021 02:36 PM (n76+U)

151 111 rhomboid,

From public opinion research, there is a guy named Yankelovich who used to run polling operations back in the day. He noted that the masses were not asses (a popular public opinion research meme based on public ignorance demonstrated in polling results).

Instead, the masses are rationally ignorant because they have outcome preferences rather than policy preferences. A outcome preference may be something like I want a job, I want good schools, etc. but being ignorant of whether a new stimulus bill or charter school bill will actually help. But, over time, a general mass of the population can acquire an overall policy preference in what they DON'T want based on acquired experience. Basically because of loss preference avoidance by most, the burned hand shuns the fire. Yankelovich calls this coming to public judgment and the Vietnam war was an example he used in his book.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 02:37 PM (pO7gM)

152 Weren't she and Harf hired at State when Lurch was fucking everything up? Surely not being intellectually superior to that lantern jawed goof was the first job requirement.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at February 02, 2021 02:34 PM (y7DUB)
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She and Harf were probably willing in other ways, too. Remember, Lurch got some plastic surgery done about that time, also.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 02, 2021 02:37 PM (WEBkv)

153 How incompetent is the government if they lose two
officers and have 3 others injured just trying to hand someone a piece
of paper.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 02, 2021 02:34 PM (nN1Di)

You ask for a miracle, BC? I give you the F-B-I.

Posted by: 4 at February 02, 2021 02:37 PM (KnJdm)

154 CNN is owned by ATT

ATT bought Direct TV 5 years ago for 50 billion

now trying to unload, with no takers so far, for 20 billion

losses at CNN are a rounding error

Posted by: REDACTED at February 02, 2021 02:37 PM (zZxh0)

155 I think it was a search warrant for child porn. The perp supposedly killed himself.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2021 02:35 PM (xfb67)

Hunter Biden killed hisself?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 02, 2021 02:37 PM (KlM8i)

156 I think it was a search warrant for child porn. The perp supposedly killed himself.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe


Did more than just kill himself. Took two others with him.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2021 02:37 PM (lmYrx)

157 Kayleigh was always well prepared, but, she also showed the media just how stupid they were.

Best guess: The press loves Psaki because they are now dealing with someone who is arguably dumber than they are.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 02, 2021 02:27 PM (WEBkv)


Yup. Going back to her being amused by a question about Space Force - Paski and 99 percent of the press and Joe's appointments for his Administration likely couldn't list all of the designated military services, or describe at a 1st Grade level what GPS is, say why the Pentagon is called the Pentagon, or much of anything else about the US Armed Forces.

Posted by: Gref at February 02, 2021 02:38 PM (AMIL/)

158 >>>And this will be the way of the conservative, there is no point in arguing over what is unsalvageable.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 02, 2021 02:25 PM (nN1Di)
-----------------

Donald Trump
Patriot Party
Kindred spirits smash Republican Party

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 02, 2021 02:38 PM (9v1sv)

159 My hub will usually come home with "did you hear __?

"Yep, on the HQ."
Posted by: SMH at February 02, 2021 02:31 PM (U2EjU)
--------------

I find the HQ tends to be hours, if not days, ahead of the news curve.
Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 02, 2021 02:33 PM (WEBkv)

=====================

Hmm. Yeah, I guess some people visit the HQ "for the articles". Most of us just like the purty pixtures

Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund) at February 02, 2021 02:38 PM (mZUr4)

160 Maybe one day we will see The Ashli Babbit Society? Who knows? Sounds fine to me.

Posted by: Eromero at February 02, 2021 02:38 PM (em79L)

161 Some watch wrestling. Some watch CNN. Some believed everything their civics teacher said back in 1971.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at February 02, 2021 02:38 PM (Fuw/d)

162 145 And the only hope (still improbably slim as it is) - conviction of Trump in the ludicrous impeachment, part deux - won't happen.

Don't be too sure.. Seems to me Turtles backing of Liz Chaney and the bashing of Greene gives the green light for the coward Republicans' to convict Trump thinking that will get rid of him

Posted by: It's me donna at February 02, 2021 02:38 PM (Zmnko)

163 The depth of knowledge on this place is super scary. Not just historical knowledge, but current events like only hours old. It's truly amazing and humbling.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2021 02:36 PM (lmYrx)
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I find a lot of things are put into context, current and historical, during discussions, leading to some pretty conclusions being reached.

Along with the usual dating and medical advice.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 02, 2021 02:39 PM (WEBkv)

164 I still get their news flashes on my tablet.
Posted by: Skip at February 02, 2021 02:18 PM (Cxk7w)

Then you are doing something wrong.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 02, 2021 02:39 PM (mzC78)

165 I'll tell you about the importance of news on AoSHQ.

How many here, before the subject was brought up, knew that sea otters were fun, little, innocent-looking playful little furballs, while river otters were rapey, thieving, ass-pounding bastards?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 02, 2021 02:39 PM (sy5kK)

166 Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2021 02:36 PM (lmYrx)

We are a diverse bunch. In the best way.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at February 02, 2021 02:39 PM (a8b7P)

167 "136 How incompetent is the government if they lose two officers and have 3 others injured just trying to hand someone a piece of paper.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 02, 2021 02:34 PM (nN1Di)"

You're making the rather bold assumption that they were actually showing up to serve a warrant for the stated purpose, rather than just kill the guy or plant evidence.

I mean, we all know they're willing to look the other way on pedos and enable the murder of innocent peopel (either through helping terrorists commit attacks, or by just doing it themselves)

People need to let this all sink in: a huge chunk of the nation is either mocking the FBI for this, if not outright cheering, while the other half has elected office holders demanding that those who voted for their opponents be branded as terrorists.

2021 might be the year; we're getting real close.

Posted by: there are only three star wars films at February 02, 2021 02:39 PM (EEVQU)

168 "Two FBI were killed and three wounded
serving a warrant at 6 A.M. this morning."

why do I find myself reflexively cheering for the "victims" being raided, without knowing any details? -- ..(because soon they will come for patriots that own guns, and they are run by anti-American thugs?)

Posted by: illiniwek at February 02, 2021 02:39 PM (Cus5s)

169 The depth of knowledge on this place is super scary. Not just historical knowledge, but current events like only hours old. It's truly amazing and humbling.
Posted by: rickb223
---------------------------------------------
For real. Folks here are knowledgeable and damn funny.

I'm definitely stealing that line about "Can you just imagine if Carthage had won the Punic wars?"

Posted by: 496 at February 02, 2021 02:39 PM (U1eOr)

170 CNN is owned by ATT

ATT bought Direct TV 5 years ago for 50 billion

now trying to unload, with no takers so far, for 20 billion

=================

Shoulda done some of that nekkid shortin'

Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund) at February 02, 2021 02:39 PM (mZUr4)

171 think it was a search warrant for child porn. The perp supposedly killed himself.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2021 02:35 PM (xfb67)

I think the perp was probably a producer of child porn, not just in possession of it.

Posted by: Mr.Meeseeks, Look at me at February 02, 2021 02:39 PM (kwakj)

172 The financial markets are up across the board, foreign and domestic.

I wonder how many billions the Fed had to spend for this.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 02, 2021 02:40 PM (yQpMk)

173 160 Maybe one day we will see The Ashli Babbit Society? Who knows? Sounds fine to me.
Posted by: Eromero at February 02, 2021 02:38 PM (em79L)


Say her name!

And AFAIK they've never released the name of the brutha who shot her.

Imagine the races had been switched. It'd be the occasion of a non-stop "national conversation" for months.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2021 02:40 PM (c9t1s)

174 >I think it was a search warrant for child porn. The perp supposedly killed himself.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2021 02:35 PM (xfb67)

I've been sufficiently radicalized that I think that means it was a setup of some kind, since we know that the ham-and-eggers don't actually care about that particular crime, other than as a method of blackmail or to plant on someone they want to bring down.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at February 02, 2021 02:41 PM (7cERy)

175 My buddies friend, PHD, professor at a credible college, knows and accepts all the the things that Trump did are good for the Nation.

He hates Trump and voted for Biden.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 02, 2021 02:41 PM (9v1sv)

176 pretty conclusions"

pretty good conclusions.

Though, whatever floats the old canoe, I guess.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 02, 2021 02:41 PM (WEBkv)

177 I'll tell you about the importance of news on AoSHQ.

How many here, before the subject was brought up, knew that sea otters were fun, little, innocent-looking playful little furballs, while river otters were rapey, thieving, ass-pounding bastards?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg
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lmao

News to me.

Posted by: SMH at February 02, 2021 02:41 PM (U2EjU)

178 Colbert next.

Posted by: Caliban at February 02, 2021 02:41 PM (HgGBT)

179 . . . and the lamentation of their soy boyz.

Posted by: Conan, What is best in life? at February 02, 2021 02:41 PM (+nWCH)

180 172 The financial markets are up across the board, foreign and domestic.

I wonder how many billions the Fed had to spend for this.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 02, 2021 02:40 PM (yQpMk)

billions ??

how quaint


TRILLIONS

Posted by: REDACTED at February 02, 2021 02:42 PM (zZxh0)

181
I've been sufficiently radicalized that I think that means it was a setup of some kind, since we know that the ham-and-eggers don't actually care about that particular crime


You're telling me

Posted by: Hunter Biden's laptop at February 02, 2021 02:42 PM (Zmnko)

182
"Two FBI were killed and three wounded

serving a warrant at 6 A.M. this morning."

why do I find
myself reflexively cheering for the "victims" being raided, without
knowing any details? -- ..(because soon they will come for patriots that
own guns, and they are run by anti-American thugs?)


Posted by: illiniwek at February 02, 2021 02:39 PM (Cus5s)

They can both lose. Clinesmith did nothing wrong? OK then.

Posted by: 4 at February 02, 2021 02:42 PM (KnJdm)

183 I can still separate events from the organization and empathize with the individuals.

Posted by: Mr.Meeseeks, Look at me at February 02, 2021 02:42 PM (kwakj)

184 I've been sufficiently radicalized that I think that means it was a setup of some kind, since we know that the ham-and-eggers don't actually care about that particular crime, other than as a method of blackmail or to plant on someone they want to bring down.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen

it's terrible that that was also one if my first thoughts

Posted by: Herr Frau Doktor vmom Staunch Demofaszi (on gab as @vm) at February 02, 2021 02:42 PM (nUhF0)

185 Ratings are just a tool of White Supremacy!

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at February 02, 2021 02:42 PM (6VHTJ)

186 I love river otters!

Posted by: Pete BootyGig at February 02, 2021 02:43 PM (+nWCH)

187 And the only hope (still improbably slim as it is) - conviction of Trump in the ludicrous impeachment, part deux - won't happen. So, no GOP doing its B53 imitation and detonating at the megaton level. Just a few regular suspect idiots - Romney, Murk - joining the mob. Though if the snippet someone posted here about Cruz whining about Trump's "intemperate speech", or something along those lines, is correct, who knows. Maybe there's still "hope"?
Posted by: rhomboid at February 02, 2021 02:36 PM (OTzUX)
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It might be better in terms of galvanizing opposition if they actually convict him. I know they all want to. They might be afraid of exactly that outcome, though, so that is the only thing that makes me think that they might not convict.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2021 02:43 PM (UZVEt)

188 ATT bought Direct TV 5 years ago for 50 billion

now trying to unload, with no takers so far, for 20 billion

losses at CNN are a rounding error
Posted by: REDACTED at February 02, 2021 02:37 PM (zZxh0)

Meh, that's just the shareholder's money.

Time for a new round of bonuses!

Posted by: ATT E-Team at February 02, 2021 02:43 PM (gDSJf)

189 Regarding Cruz's comments. The problem with being a super smart individual is that you begin to think that no one notices what you say or do. In the internet age, everything is forever and people will notice in a politically charged atmosphere.

Cruz wants to run for president in 2024 but lacking overall charisma, has to rely on creating a donor network consisting of rich swells that are at heart Never Trumpers. Cruz is signalling them that he is not a Trumper and therefore safe to invest in for the 2024 race.

Cruz is relying on the ignorance of the public to note the difference between his actions on Jan. 6th where he joined with Hawley in challenging a state or two's electoral votes and his statements on electoral fraud. If challenged on the latter, he can simply go into the nuances of legalism and lose the audience.

It is an old litigator trick to misdirect but like a lot of lawyer tricks makes one appear to have two faces--saying one thing to one audience and something else to another one.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 02:43 PM (pO7gM)

190
I think the perp was probably a producer of child porn, not just in possession of it.
Posted by: Mr.Meeseeks, Look at me at February 02, 2021 02:39 PM (kwakj)
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I wouldn't believe it, even if the FBI showed up with the perp's laptop that had child porn on it.

I do not trust the FBI, at all.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 02, 2021 02:43 PM (WEBkv)

191 Remember, Lurch got some plastic surgery done about that time, also.
Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 02, 2021 02:37 PM (WEBkv)


I think that was right after he tried matching wits with Sarah Palin and she mocked him with "why the long face?" So he got mashed potatoes shoved into his gaping jaw cavity and looked even more hideous.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at February 02, 2021 02:44 PM (y7DUB)

192 why do I find myself reflexively cheering for the "victims" being raided, without knowing any details? -- ..(because soon they will come for patriots that own guns, and they are run by anti-American thugs?)
Posted by: illiniwek at February 02, 2021 02:39 PM (Cus5s)

Wife and I were watching the most recent season of Bosch (awesome show), which involved a group of sovereign citizens.

I will admit, I turned on Bosch pretty hard.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 02, 2021 02:44 PM (KbCG3)

193 141 136 How incompetent is the government if they lose two officers and have 3 others injured just trying to hand someone a piece of paper.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 02, 2021 02:34 PM (nN1Di)

I think it was a search warrant for child porn. The perp supposedly killed himself.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

well, if the FBI says so then I suppose it could be possible, but I doubt it. sounds more like their laptops.

Posted by: x4 at February 02, 2021 02:44 PM (oA+QO)

194 Burn it down.

Scatter the stones.

Salt the earth where it stood.

h/t AllenG

Posted by: creeper at February 02, 2021 02:44 PM (XxJt1)

195 They will find most Trump supporters are a whole lot less genteel in their responses than Trump was. As AtC says, the Tea Party was us asking politely. Trump was us asking not so politely. After Trump, we are done with asking and let the consequences be on their heads.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 02, 2021 02:44 PM (946rW)

196 Rep. Jackie Speier (D-CA) said Democrats should start labeling Republicans as terrorists in a tweet posted on Monday.

The Democrat not even Jim Jones thought was worth killing.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2021 02:19 PM (c9t1s)

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Heh, that's a good line. I first heard about her in the early 90's (I think) when she introduced a bill in the California Legislature to lower the voting age to 14 years of age. I mean, why not go with 14 days of age if you manage to survive the post-birth abortion?

It's idiocy all the way down ...

Posted by: ShainS at February 02, 2021 02:45 PM (RjT9g)

197 "Two FBI were killed and three wounded

serving a warrant at 6 A.M. this morning."

why do I find myself reflexively cheering for the "victims" being raided, without knowing any details? -- ..(because soon they will come for patriots that own guns, and they are run by anti-American thugs?)
Posted by: illiniwek

They can both lose. Clinesmith did nothing wrong? OK then.
Posted by: 4


This.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2021 02:45 PM (lmYrx)

198 I saw ass-pounding bastards defeat the British Bulldogs for the tag team championship at Wrestlemania IV

Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund) at February 02, 2021 02:45 PM (mZUr4)

199 Best guess: The press loves Psaki because they are now dealing with someone who is arguably dumber than they are.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 02, 2021 02:27 PM

Yup. Going back to her being amused by a question about Space Force - Paski and 99 percent of the press and Joe's appointments for his Administration likely couldn't list all of the designated military services, or describe at a 1st Grade level what GPS is, say why the Pentagon is called the Pentagon, or much of anything else about the US Armed Forces.
Posted by: Gref at February 02, 2021 02:38 PM

It doesn't matter who they have up at the podium: the press are now stenographers and take every utterance from the current regime at face value and absolutely refuse to do even the slightest investigation.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 02, 2021 02:45 PM (49Dnm)

200 the National.Guard in DC, the fences - probably are there to protect the oligarchs during the kangaroo court impeachment of Trump

but how loyal is the NG to the oligarchs?

Posted by: Herr Frau Doktor vmom Staunch Demofaszi (on gab as @vm) at February 02, 2021 02:45 PM (nUhF0)

201 CNN is owned by ATT

ATT bought Direct TV 5 years ago for 50 billion

now trying to unload, with no takers so far, for 20 billion

=================

I am convinced that most modern CEOs don't care about the future of their company. They only want their own bank accounts to prosper.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 02, 2021 02:45 PM (EjmvJ)

202 "But Trump's gone now."

So what? I have no talent and no intelligence, so I'll keep doing the only thing I know: Even More Hate Trump.

Posted by: Trevor Noah, Broken Records Comedy at February 02, 2021 02:45 PM (HhXSr)

203 2021 might be the year; we're getting real close.

Posted by: there are only three star wars films at February 02, 2021 02:39 PM (EEVQU)

.....

Maybe. Who knows.

I'm not fighting. I don't think a lot of people realize that much of the government oppression and overreach I have long argued about was actually on their behalf. And yet they argued with me because BLM or fag stuff or whatever.

Now that fascism has come, I will learn to look the other way as they have their skulls bashed in. I didn't just support the American ideal for me, I supported it for everyone.

I'll learn to survive in whatever country I live in. Others will not be so lucky,

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 02, 2021 02:46 PM (nN1Di)

204 Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 02:43 PM (pO7gM)

Cruz says what he means and takes positions he believes are right even if they may politically damage him. He was one of Trumps's few allies in the Senate despite Trump implying his father was involved in the Kennedy assassination.

Posted by: Mr.Meeseeks, Look at me at February 02, 2021 02:46 PM (kwakj)

205 189: Cruz coming off as a clever lawyer does him no good in 2024. You would think he would have learned that lesson in 2016. But nah.

Posted by: Revenant at February 02, 2021 02:47 PM (cOGHc)

206 Wife and I were watching the most recent season of Bosch (awesome show), which involved a group of sovereign citizens.

I will admit, I turned on Bosch pretty hard.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 02, 2021 02:44 PM (KbCG3)

=========

I really enjoyed that show but still haven't watched the latest season because of stuff I've been hearing from the Horde.

Should I actually watch the recent season???

Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund) at February 02, 2021 02:47 PM (mZUr4)

207 Joe, exactly what I've been saying - a conviction is our best chance for a near-term and serious detonation of the GOP. Which is the only way any *timely* useful change has any chance of happening in that pathetic party. It is Obama's third term. For its mostly dumbed-down and lazy "base", the GOP will now only need to scream "look at the other side! they're crazy! you MUST give us $ and vote for US!".

"Repeal O-care!" probably is now too embarrassing a farcical battle cry, even for the GOP, but they'll be something.

The worse the Dems get, the worse the GOP can/will become. Rhomboid's Law of Moribund 2-Party Systems.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 02, 2021 02:47 PM (OTzUX)

208 My buddies friend, PHD, professor at a credible college, knows and accepts all the the things that Trump did are good for the Nation.

He hates Trump and voted for Biden.

================

Trump tried to help the little guy. The folks at the top of the pyramid will never forgive him for that.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 02, 2021 02:47 PM (EjmvJ)

209
You're making the rather bold assumption that they were actually showing up to serve a warrant for the stated purpose, rather than just kill the guy or plant evidence.
I mean, we all know they're willing to look the other way on pedos and enable the murder of innocent peopel (either through helping terrorists commit attacks, or by just doing it themselves)
People need to let this all sink in: a huge chunk of the nation is either mocking the FBI for this, if not outright cheering, while the other half has elected office holders demanding that those who voted for their opponents be branded as terrorists.
2021 might be the year; we're getting real close.
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at February 02, 2021 02:39 PM (EEVQU)

Great and accurate observation. I wonder if the FBI realizes this? I have to say that if the FBI were to ever knock at my door and question me, I would only answer, "it's 2021, you're the FBI run by Comey and Wray. Do you think I am going to talk with you about anything? How stupid do you think I am?"

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 02, 2021 02:47 PM (sy5kK)

210 well, if the FBI says so then I suppose it could be possible, but I doubt it. sounds more like their laptops.

Posted by: x4 at February 02, 2021 02:44 PM (oA+QO)

I couldn't even work up a sympathetic response that 2 agents were killed and 3 other agents were injured. I certainly am not going to assume that they were the righteous ones in this story.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 02, 2021 02:47 PM (946rW)

211 Cruz wants to run for president in 2024 but lacking overall charisma, has to rely on creating a donor network consisting of rich swells that are at heart Never Trumpers.

Cruz is signalling them that he is not a Trumper and therefore safe to invest in for the 2024 race.

Posted by: whig

What no one understands, is we picked Trump BECAUSE HE WASN'T BEHOLDEN TO SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2021 02:47 PM (lmYrx)

212 I am convinced that most modern CEOs don't care about the future of their company. They only want their own bank accounts to prosper.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 02, 2021 02:45 PM (EjmvJ)
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If I were to ever start a company and then it IPO'd, I would have a corporate bylaw that 50% of the CEO's total compensation was subject to clawback if the five years following his tenure unperformed the five years prior to his departure and the cause is due to the financial or acquisition decisions made under his watch.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 02, 2021 02:47 PM (UZVEt)

213 "there'll be something"

Posted by: rhomboid at February 02, 2021 02:47 PM (OTzUX)

214 "Characterized as left-leaning."

That's everything. The media cannot stomach calling anything Leftist. Take the once good British publication, The Economist. They refer to the Canadian political party known as the NDP as "Leftish". In Canada they are HARD LEFT and The Economist cannlt bring themselves to admit that.

It's strange, really, because the media will constantly assure us that "NOTHING bad happens on the Left" yet they refuse to identify people and organizations as such.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 02, 2021 02:48 PM (49Dnm)

215 Five FBI serve search warrant a 6 A.M.
That right there is suspicious.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 02, 2021 02:48 PM (9v1sv)

216 144 Florida not a good location for FBI agents.

Posted by: Mr.Meeseeks, Look at me at February 02, 2021 02:35 PM (kwakj)


You're right about that. For example, The Miami Shootout, 1986 (IIRC); two FBI Agents killed, three more wounded.

Caused the FBI to begin to seriously explore the wounding capability of semi-auto bullets/velocities, resulting in the FBI changing to 10mm pistols instead of 9mm pistols.

Posted by: Gref at February 02, 2021 02:48 PM (AMIL/)

217 Re: Bosch - If I recall, the sovereign citizens turned out not to be the villains.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 02, 2021 02:49 PM (Dc2NZ)

218 I do not trust the FBI, at all.
Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 02, 2021 02:43 PM (WEBkv)


Fuck them. They've squandered every bit of trust since before four years ago and are now reaping the consequences. SeeBS can make all the knob polishing shows they want. Do.Not.Care.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at February 02, 2021 02:49 PM (y7DUB)

219 Should I actually watch the recent season???
Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund) at February 02, 2021 02:47 PM (mZUr4)


It's winding down--one more season and that's it. I love the series, read all the books, yada yada yada. I think almost every TV series has a season that goes off the rails a little toward the end. It's forgivable, and I'm still going to watch the next season also. I'm invested in it, and it's not IN YOUR FACE wokeness, so yeah, you should.

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at February 02, 2021 02:49 PM (6VHTJ)

220 Five FBI serve search warrant a 6 A.M.
That right there is suspicious.
Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 02, 2021 02:48 PM (9v1sv)

Concur. All BS, all the time.

Abolish the FBI.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 02, 2021 02:49 PM (KlM8i)

221 The Carthaginians came from Canaan.
The Carthaginians practiced child sacrifice as did the Canaanites.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 02, 2021 02:50 PM (9v1sv)

222 Ok Jen, here's your job description. Use a lot of words, but don't really say anything. If you get stuck, just tell them you'll circle back, but then don't. It's not like the press will investigate anything. Ok, go get em!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 02, 2021 02:50 PM (kTF2Z)

223 My buddies friend, PHD, professor at a credible college, knows and accepts all the the things that Trump did are good for the Nation.

He hates Trump and voted for Biden.

--

Not much different than blacks, who simply can't let go of their blind adherence to the Communist Democrat Party, despite its sordid history against them, and despite what that actual party has done to their race for the past 50 years. Then again, I don't know how many of them actually acknowledge what's been done to them.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 02, 2021 02:51 PM (O+I8R)

224 a happy go lucky fool like me could never prosper in this environment

Posted by: REDACTED at February 02, 2021 02:51 PM (zZxh0)

225 A vibrant Middle Class is the damper rods in a poorly designed nuclear reactor of a society.

And the Left and Right" elites" want to pull the damper rods all the way out. Because they are that stupid.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at February 02, 2021 02:51 PM (u82oZ)

226 We're all hoarders and wreckers now.

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at February 02, 2021 02:51 PM (nakwk)

227 I want to know why the FBI thinks it is necessary to serve a warrant at a residence that early in the am?

Why not wait until the person is clear of the house, grab them, then serve the warrant?

Yeah, doesn't pass the smell test.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 02, 2021 02:51 PM (WEBkv)

228 >>I find the HQ tends to be hours, if not days, ahead of the news curve.


Not to mention our Cutting Edge Medical Technologies.

Posted by: garrett at February 02, 2021 02:52 PM (DupXx)

229 It's winding down--one more season and that's it. I love the series, read all the books, yada yada yada. I think almost every TV series has a season that goes off the rails a little toward the end. It's forgivable, and I'm still going to watch the next season also. I'm invested in it, and it's not IN YOUR FACE wokeness, so yeah, you should.
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at February 02, 2021 02:49 PM (6VHTJ)
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Thanks for the response! I do feel like I'm too invested to not keep watching.

Titus Welliver is an underrated actor. Really liked him in Deadwood. Also his bit part in the not-so-great show Sons of Anarchy.

Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund) at February 02, 2021 02:52 PM (mZUr4)

230 Yeah, on the HQ being hours, even days ahead on news events....

There was a commenter, I forget who, who had the George Floyd neck stomp info suggesting how bad it was going to be..... days before they blew it up to being the game changing moment it was.

HQ is amazing.

Posted by: Derak at February 02, 2021 02:52 PM (U76bn)

231 Cruz will go no higher, and while his vote is presumably welcome on most issues, he doesn't seem inclined to use his abilities to have a larger impact. Of course as a smarter and more well informed one than most, he bears greater responsibility for under-achieving like this. Oh well.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 02, 2021 02:52 PM (OTzUX)

232 I want to know why the FBI thinks it is necessary to serve a warrant at a residence that early in the am?

Why not wait until the person is clear of the house, grab them, then serve the warrant?

Yeah, doesn't pass the smell test.
Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 02, 2021 02:51 PM (WEBkv)

And miss their opportunity to play Delta Force? Why else would they spend the money on all that tactical gear and body armor and weapons?

Posted by: Vanya at February 02, 2021 02:53 PM (gAFsE)

233 Just because the FBI said he had child porn does not in any circumstance mean he had child porn. Could just be trumped up bullshit. So maybe the guy decided not to get railroaded and take a couple scumbags with him. Then he checked out.

Possible, yeah.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 02, 2021 02:53 PM (o2MD2)

234 >>HQ is amazing.


Breitbart knew what was up.

Posted by: garrett at February 02, 2021 02:53 PM (DupXx)

235 Why are cheesy commercials always trying to sell me stuff with titanium in them?

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 02, 2021 02:53 PM (O+I8R)

236 The latest season of Bosch was good, IMHO. Yes, the sovereign citizens were whackjobs, but it was clear that while they were crazy and willing to go to violence, they were pushed there by the corruption in the FBI. Bosch was just in the middle trying to do his job and get justice.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at February 02, 2021 02:53 PM (jOcSX)

237 Lady In Black - LBJ was correct, while vulgar, in what he said about the CRA of 1964.

Posted by: Archer at February 02, 2021 02:53 PM (gmo/4)

238 https://thefederalist.com/house republicans prepare to oust liz cheney from leadership

Good

Posted by: Skip at February 02, 2021 02:53 PM (Cxk7w)

239 And miss their opportunity to play Delta Force? Why
else would they spend the money on all that tactical gear and body
armor and weapons?

Posted by: Vanya at February 02, 2021 02:53 PM (gAFsE)

Will this be a lesson to them?

Posted by: 4 at February 02, 2021 02:54 PM (KnJdm)

240 215 Five FBI serve search warrant a 6 A.M.
That right there is suspicious.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 02, 2021 02:48 PM (9v1sv)

Oh, they let them sleep in huh?

Posted by: Mr. & Mrs. Roger Stone at February 02, 2021 02:54 PM (cF8AT)

241 204 Meeseeks,
I do not agree. Cruz joined Hawley, not vice versa because he is trying to both stake out the most conservative in the 2024 field yet remain tolerable to the big donors.

The big issue with Republicans is that they consistently fall for what someone says rather than watch what they do.

Credit claiming on a bill that goes nowhere or speechifying on a red meat issue in the Senate is far too common. Give me someone that has actually run something, a corporation, a state, etc. De Santis in Fla is one such to watch, he was a relative firebrand in the House but has proven to be a good administrator. Nikki, is one that was a lousy administrator in the SC and failed upwards to the UN where she mouthed off on our nation's enemies but achieved squat. Mittens demonstrated the opposite, a decent administrator as Mass Gov. but a lousy candidate for president and a lousy senator. Different skill sets for Republican presidents are needed beyond forensic skills.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 02:54 PM (pO7gM)

242 >>Yeah, on the HQ being hours, even days ahead on news events....


The year old stories on the Front Page are merely a ruse.

Posted by: garrett at February 02, 2021 02:54 PM (DupXx)

243 And miss their opportunity to play Delta Force? Why else would they spend the money on all that tactical gear and body armor and weapons?
Posted by: Vanya at February 02, 2021 02:53 PM (gAFsE)
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FBI obviously doesn't care about the lessons of Waco, where they could have grabbed David Koresh when he went into town.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 02, 2021 02:54 PM (WEBkv)

244 Not to mention our Cutting Edge Medical Technologies.
Posted by: garrett at February 02, 2021 02:52 PM (DupXx)



Not to mention our traditional relationship and dating advice.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 02, 2021 02:54 PM (yQpMk)

245 >> https://thefederalist.com/house republicans prepare to oust liz cheney from leadership


You're gonna need a longer leaver.

Posted by: Zombie Archimedes at February 02, 2021 02:54 PM (DupXx)

246 "Five FBI serve search warrant a 6 A.M.

That right there is suspicious.

Posted by: Braenyard"

Maybe a noose was spotted by neighbors.

Posted by: Ripley at February 02, 2021 02:55 PM (MxEKc)

247 well, if the FBI says so then I suppose it could be possible, but I doubt it. sounds more like their laptops.

Posted by: x4 at February 02, 2021 02:44 PM (oA+QO)

I will believe it when I see it.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 02, 2021 02:55 PM (946rW)

248 The only thing Cruz has going for himself anymore, is that anyone shines next to Cornyn. Ted is becoming a major disappointment to a lot of us hereabouts.

Posted by: Rando East Texas Poster at February 02, 2021 02:55 PM (QZ/dC)

249 216 144 Florida not a good location for FBI agents.
Posted by: Mr.Meeseeks, Look at me at February 02, 2021 02:35 PM (kwakj)
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You're right about that. For example, The Miami Shootout, 1986 (IIRC); two FBI Agents killed, three more wounded.

Caused the FBI to begin to seriously explore the wounding capability of semi-auto bullets/velocities, resulting in the FBI changing to 10mm pistols instead of 9mm pistols.
Posted by: Gref at February 02, 2021 02:48 PM (AMIL/)
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Read several times that the agents did not follow proper procedure for their circumstance. That if they had followed procedure they would be alive and the perps dead.

However, I have never been able to find an accounting of exactly how it went down.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 02, 2021 02:55 PM (9v1sv)

250 Just because the FBI said he had child porn does not
in any circumstance mean he had child porn. Could just be trumped up
bullshit. So maybe the guy decided not to get railroaded and take a
couple scumbags with him. Then he checked out.



Possible, yeah.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 02, 2021 02:53 PM (o2MD2)

Just as plausible as Epstein killed himself.

Posted by: 4 at February 02, 2021 02:55 PM (KnJdm)

251 235 Why are cheesy commercials always trying to sell me stuff with titanium in them?
Posted by: Lady in Black at February 02, 2021 02:53 PM (O+I8R)


To each his own but I'm pretty sure I don't want titanium in my cheese.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at February 02, 2021 02:55 PM (0Dq5O)

252 The FBI will use this as an excuse to utilize SWAT teams and no knock raids.

Oops, wrong house! Sorry about your dog.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 02, 2021 02:55 PM (kTF2Z)

253 238 https://thefederalist.com/house republicans prepare to oust liz cheney from leadership


But McConnell backs her....

Posted by: It's me donna at February 02, 2021 02:55 PM (Zmnko)

254 Donald Trump said, "pussy."

Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 02, 2021 02:55 PM (03n3v)

255 Will this be a lesson to them?
Posted by: 4 at February 02, 2021 02:54 PM (KnJdm)

Ummmmmmm.....No.

The FBI will spend a few million to study this"event" and decide that zero dark thirty no knock raids only work with 10 mm pistol ammo.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 02, 2021 02:56 PM (KlM8i)

256 @218:

Agreed. If anyone's reaction to those two getting iced was something other than "good start," they haven't been paying attention.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 02, 2021 02:56 PM (puu6v)

257 235 Why are cheesy commercials always trying to sell me stuff with titanium in them?
Posted by: Lady in Black at February 02, 2021 02:53 PM (O+I8R)

Titanium most likely comes from Russia.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2021 02:56 PM (xfb67)

258 Titus Welliver is an underrated actor. Really liked him in Deadwood. Also his bit part in the not-so-great show Sons of Anarchy.
Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund) at February 02, 2021 02:52 PM (mZUr4)


Agreed. Fantastic fit for that character. His only misstep was doing commercials for Comcast. But I don't fault a brother for taking a check. I used to take checks from them, too, and I truly felt disgusted every day I went into work.

Still great show, great characters, and really great writing. I'll be bummed when it's gone.

The really shitty show out there that *tries* to be Bosch is Goliath. Seriously, it's a steaming pile of dog poo.

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at February 02, 2021 02:56 PM (6VHTJ)

259 A correction on what I wrote about the 1986 Miami Shootout - Two FBI Agents killed, FIVE wounded. There was only one un-wounded Agent out of eight at the scene during the shooting.

Two bad guys. One of whom was mostly out of the fight from the start.

Posted by: Gref at February 02, 2021 02:56 PM (AMIL/)

260 "Two FBI were killed and three wounded


serving a warrant at 6 A.M. this morning."
Some people did some things.

Posted by: Roland THTG at February 02, 2021 02:56 PM (88+cf)

261 Faith in our institutions is on the up and up!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at February 02, 2021 02:56 PM (n76+U)

262 I'm Brett Farve's Crocs.

I not only endorese Copper Curds, I'm also a client.

Posted by: Brett Farve's Crocs at February 02, 2021 02:56 PM (DupXx)

263 189 Regarding Cruz's comments. The problem with being a super smart individual is that you begin to think that no one notices what you say or do. In the internet age, everything is forever and people will notice in a politically charged atmosphere.
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Cruz has convinced me that he is another Senator that can't trusted, even if he is smart about the Constitution. Early on, before Trump, he was my choice for 2016.

He's also a backstabber. He dunked on Trump right when he could have stood tall. But he didn't. Don't need those kinds on my team.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 02, 2021 02:56 PM (sy5kK)

264 NOOD ya layabouts

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Time to sign on with the Crimson Permanent Assurance at February 02, 2021 02:57 PM (OUMaO)

265 Sen. Joe Manchin , bowed to immense pressure Tuesday and announced he would vote in favor of a budget resolution Sen. Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, brought forward Monday that should lay the groundwork for President Bidens $1.9T Covid relief package.

Manchin said he would vote in favor of the budget resolution but would continue to fight for bipartisanship in the process of negotiations.

What a preditable cunt

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 02, 2021 02:57 PM (85Gof)

266 "I'll learn to survive in whatever country I live in. Others will not be so lucky,
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 02, 2021 02:46 PM (nN1Di)"

They don't intend to let people be, and they have the means and know-how to carry out their goals as long as people aren't, at a minimum, actively monkey-wrenching them.

This isn't the 1980's USSR where you can just go through the motions, perform the correct genuflections, and be mostly unmolested. They have their dickbeaters on the panopticon, and anyone who knows what they're looking at can see their preparations for genocide.

I *don't* support the American ideal for everyone. I support it for anyone willing to honestly sign on to it. Foreign invaders that care not a whit for it and those who enable them and are busy treating our system of government as a train that you ride until your reach a destination - they can all go eat a bag of dicks.

If they pull this off, it's going to make the organizations that effected political repression in the 20th century in the Warsaw Pact and PRC look like the Girl Scouts.

Posted by: there are only three star wars films at February 02, 2021 02:57 PM (EEVQU)

267 >FBI obviously doesn't care about the lessons of Waco, where they could have grabbed David Koresh when he went into town.
Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 02, 2021 02:54 PM (WEBkv)

Same with Randy Weaver. But that wouldn't have given them a chance to snipe women and children.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at February 02, 2021 02:57 PM (7cERy)

268 FBI didn't say it was child porn.

Article said it was *related*.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 02, 2021 02:57 PM (9v1sv)

269 I kinda figured this FBI thing would become a problem for ace's comments section.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 02, 2021 02:58 PM (OTzUX)

270 hmm. about the same time of year as the Waco debacle. appropriations season.

Posted by: x4 at February 02, 2021 02:58 PM (oA+QO)

271 Not much different than blacks, who simply can't let go of their blind adherence to the Communist Democrat Party, despite its sordid history against them, and despite what that actual party has done to their race for the past 50 years.

Then again, I don't know how many of them actually acknowledge what's been done to them.
Posted by: Lady in Black


It's all Righty Whitey's fault.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2021 02:58 PM (lmYrx)

272 The FBI will use this as an excuse to utilize SWAT teams and no knock raids.



Oops, wrong house! Sorry about your dog now dead infant that you were holding in your arms. I hope the blood comes out of your shirt..

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 02, 2021 02:55 PM (kTF2Z)

Ruby Ridge fix for you Duke.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 02, 2021 02:58 PM (946rW)

273 Ed Morissey and the entire gang at HotGas is veeeery concerned that Biden is governing via EO. Almost as if the centrist pragmatic moderate they promised their rube readers did not pan out.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at February 02, 2021 02:59 PM (P1G83)

274 I don't care about Cruz angling to be the nominee, I don't care about the GOP trying to strip Liz Cheney of leadership, I don't care what GOP does. They are just as much my enemy as the Democrats. I thought there were more of us.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 02, 2021 02:59 PM (qH6FZ)

275 238 Skip, Money quote on how GOPe operates,
'Liz Cheney has spent more time working on keeping her leadership seat than she spent helping members of her conference in the last election.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 02:59 PM (pO7gM)

276 However, I have never been able to find an accounting of exactly how it went down.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 02, 2021 02:55 PM (9v1sv)


tinyurl.com/dfr1bmqg

Posted by: 4 at February 02, 2021 02:59 PM (KnJdm)

277
Too bad for this guy he or a family member didn't get elected as a Democrat first. They all could have gone for a beer. The evidence could sit in Bill Barr's desk for awhile, and nobody had to get hurt.

What a shame for all of them. My heart... it weeps.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 02, 2021 02:59 PM (Bvn1K)

278 Cruz will go no higher, and while his vote is presumably welcome on most issues, he doesn't seem inclined to use his abilities to have a larger impact. Of course as a smarter and more well informed one than most, he bears greater responsibility for under-achieving like this. Oh well.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 02, 2021 02:52 PM (OTzUX)


I voted for Cruz in the 2016 primary even though I thought he lacked a certain X factor to beat The Beast. I was ultimately glad the Golden Scalpweasel got the nomination. I think Cruz creeps out enough women to make him incapable of being President. It has nothing to do with his policies.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at February 02, 2021 03:00 PM (y7DUB)

279 "Great and accurate observation. I wonder if the FBI realizes this?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 02, 2021 02:47 PM (sy5kK)"

I have seen accounts that their morale is in the shitter and they're rather upset about being treated like lepers. But then, the people I know who work for Mordor on the Potomac are pretty enamored with dollar signs, so who knows.

Give a man a fat paycheck and nice perks and you'd be amazed at what they can justify to themselves.

Posted by: there are only three star wars films at February 02, 2021 03:00 PM (EEVQU)

280 FBI obviously doesn't care about the lessons of Waco, where they could have grabbed David Koresh when he went into town.

Nightmare inferno of a clusterfuck, same as in town.

Posted by: FBI pricing at February 02, 2021 03:01 PM (h5TKJ)

281 kbdabear: "Maybe Tater can get a job installing solar panels or filling in abandoned mining shafts"

That sack of soy operate a hand tool? Not a chance.

He might be able to fold clothes somewhere as long as there's enough lotion to protect his hands. Alternately he could be a rice ball taster at a future XiNN Food Network.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 02, 2021 03:02 PM (HhXSr)

282 Trying to be a Republican and disowning Trump, is like talking military battles in WWII in the Pacific, and not mentioning aircraft carriers as being important.
Talking nonsense over and over doesn't make it so.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 02, 2021 03:02 PM (sy5kK)

283 257 235 Why are cheesy commercials always trying to sell me stuff with titanium in them?
Posted by: Lady in Black at February 02, 2021 02:53 PM (O+I8R)

Titanium most likely comes from Russia.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2021 02:56 PM (xfb67)
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There's a YouTubber call *HYDRAULIC PRESS* in which he compresses cubes of iron, tin, copper, aluminum and titanium.

The press pushed the titanium cube into the steel base about 1/2".

He has several, If you like watching things crushed.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 02, 2021 03:03 PM (9v1sv)

284 "269 I kinda figured this FBI thing would become a problem for ace's comments section.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 02, 2021 02:58 PM (OTzUX)"

I'm quite sure a couple of generations of East Germans figured out all of the prime locations they could heap scorn on the Stasi and then did so at length, and with feeling.

Posted by: there are only three star wars films at February 02, 2021 03:03 PM (EEVQU)

285
Alternately he could be a rice ball taster at a future XiNN Food Network.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 02, 2021 03:02 PM (HhXSr)

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I'm no fan of China either, but starving them all into submission seems a little extreme.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 02, 2021 03:03 PM (Bvn1K)

286 281 kbdabear: "Maybe Tater can get a job installing solar panels or filling in abandoned mining shafts"

That sack of soy operate a hand tool? Not a chance.

He might be able to fold clothes somewhere as long as there's enough lotion to protect his hands. Alternately he could be a rice ball taster at a future XiNN Food Network.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 02, 2021 03:02 PM (HhXSr)

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There's always the abandoned land mine fields of West Virginia Kamala told me all about.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, paying for my sins on the Scorsese streets at February 02, 2021 03:03 PM (LvTSG)

287 Now everyone remember: It's only the head of the FBI that's a problem. 99.999% of the rest are honest as the day is long.

So let's be Great Americans and not be too hard on these heroic actors.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 02, 2021 03:05 PM (HhXSr)

288 >>>He might be able to fold clothes somewhere as long as there's enough lotion to protect his hands. Alternately he could be a rice ball taster at a future XiNN Food Network.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 02, 2021 03:02 PM (HhXSr)
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Funny image of him working in a Chinese laundry and boss mama giving him hell.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 02, 2021 03:06 PM (9v1sv)

289
So let's be Great Americans and not be too hard on these heroic actors.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 02, 2021 03:05 PM (HhXSr)

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Yeah! Now gimme some FGL! It's what I wanna hear! If a fed dies young, bury him in satin!

*sheds tear*

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 02, 2021 03:06 PM (Bvn1K)

290 Not much different than blacks, who simply can't let go of their blind adherence to the Communist Democrat Party, despite its sordid history against them, and despite what that actual party has done to their race for the past 50 years. Then again, I don't know how many of them actually acknowledge what's been done to them.
Posted by: Lady in Black at February 02, 2021 02:51 PM (O+I8R)


Fifty years? Try 200 years.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2021 03:12 PM (c9t1s)

291 How does this NOT end in violence?

Posted by: Guzalot at February 02, 2021 03:14 PM (Rz36l)

292 235 Why are cheesy commercials always trying to sell me stuff with titanium in them?
Posted by: Lady in Black at February 02, 2021 02:53 PM (O+I8R)


Because most people know bupkis about titanium, and hearing it mentioned in reverential terms leads them to impute particular value to it.

Titanium ~ aluminum.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 02, 2021 03:15 PM (c9t1s)

293 Five FBI serve search warrant a 6 A.M.
That right there is suspicious.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 02, 2021 02:48 PM (9v1sv)

Oh, they let them sleep in huh?
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CNN was late.

Posted by: FBI tacitical/press operations chief at February 02, 2021 04:22 PM (30NFr)

294 Just because the FBI said he had child porn does not
in any circumstance mean he had child porn. Could just be trumped up
bullshit. So maybe the guy decided not to get railroaded and take a
couple scumbags with him. Then he checked out.
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dog not barking . . . Nashville RV explosion...

Posted by: FBI tacitical/press operations chief at February 02, 2021 04:26 PM (vKHzk)

295 Watch CNN Crash and Burn it could,nt happen to a more bad off bunch of Liberal Left Propagandists

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at February 02, 2021 05:27 PM (FLiOE)

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