The Morning Report - 11/20/20

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Good morning, kids. The weekend is here and the lead story was Team Trump's press
conference yesterday. Rudy Giuliani, Jenna Ellis and most of all Sidney Powell presented, for lack of a better expression their "opening argument" in describing what happened on Election Day and night and the weeks or perhaps even years leading up to it. I said "opening argument" was problematic because far too many in the press and even here consider this a trial, or at the very least, are castigating Team Trump for not showing the evidence in one fell swoop and then expecting like magic all the electoral votes will wind up in Trump's column. Yesterday was not the trial; it was merely the necessary public affirmation and rebuttal to the media narrative begun two weeks ago tomorrow when the press proclaimed Biden to be the winner. The most egregious example of this was none other than Tucker Carlson himself. I'm not saying Carlson is supposed to go "rah-rah, go Trump!" for him to gain my approval. But for him to not recognize the purpose of yesterday's conference is either stupidity or something else. And he's no dope. I guess now we know why he didn't jump off the rapidly sinking wreckage of Fox News. Well, to hell with him.

Getting back to the briefing, the way in which the Enemy stole the election was sophisticated, involving multiple players including foreign actors and perhaps governments as well as hundreds or even thousands of operatives handling both paper ballots as well as rigging the computer tabulations. But the one thing they didn't count on - just like in 2016 - was Trump's voters turning out en masse in a way that completely screwed up the steal. And that's when they panicked and someone sent out a signal to the six swing states to stuff the ballot boxes. That is how they got caught.

Whatever one thinks about Rudy Giuliani on a personal level, his decades of experience as both a politician in New York (a state and city not known for corruption-free politics) and as a prosecutor who pioneered the use of the RICO laws to take down the Mafia are priceless in terms of identifying patterns of corruption as was most certainly the case with this election. Both he, and Jenna Ellis also took a rhetorical sledgehammer to the propagandists for the way they acted in smearing both Trump's legal and Constitutional right to challenge this election as well as their actions on and after Election Day, which I would describe as co-conspirators before and after the fact.

But far and away, Sidney Powell is a national treasure.

"This is stunning, heartbreaking, Infuriating and the most unpatriotic acts I can even imagine for people in this country to have participated in, in any way, shape or form, and I want the American public to know right now that we will not be intimidated. American patriots are fed up with the corruption from the local level to the highest level of our government, and we are going to take this country back," she said.

"We are not going to be intimidated. We are not going to back down. We are going to clean this mess up now. President Trump won by a landslide. We are going to prove it, and we are going to reclaim the United States of America for the people who vote for freedom," Powell said.

If you heard her speak, there were a couple of times when I thought she was going to burst into tears. But it was the absolute outrage and anger for what a Globalist cabal with the Democrat Party as its spearhead did to this country that kept her composed. As I said to a friend yesterday, who G-d bless him also was nitpicking things, if you were given six months to prepare this case for trial, you'd still be under the gun in getting your ducks in a row. They have I believe until December 8th. If anyone thinks that Powell and the others are doing this to burnish their credentials for a future TV gig or a book deal, well, I don't even know what to say to that. The raw emotion in that woman's voice and the words she stated are exactly what tens of millions of us have been saying and feeling for over two weeks now. I cannot see how anyone who saw that speech can question her motives.

If we come out of this nightmare vindicated with President Trump's rightful victory restored, Sidney Powell will go down in history as a patriot. In my view, she already is. Something else to consider; the "case" as it were that is being prepared is not only intended for the courts or ultimately the Supreme Court. It is being made to the state legislators and even our side in the House should, as I suspect, the SCOTUS declines to hear it (I think they will) or if they defer to those bodies over separation of powers issues. And considering that well over 30% of Democrat voters think the election is stolen, the case being made has ramifications for the nation long after its final disposition.

I'm not going to lie to you. This is still going to be an uphill battle, not because the case and the evidence isn't or won't be rock solid and airtight. It's because we are relying on human beings, some of whom are very flawed (as well as scared shitless of winding up dead) to actually do their constitutional duty. If you're already praying for Trump and the nation, you might want to ask the Lord to give all of these people the strength and courage to do what they have to do and save this republic.

It's not over, not by a long shot. But the clock is ticking.

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1 WTFO??

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 20, 2020 07:30 AM (JFO2v)

2 thanks

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 07:31 AM (sfhL4)

3 Whoa

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 20, 2020 07:32 AM (Do5/p)

4 good morning!

Posted by: Rosasharn at November 20, 2020 07:32 AM (yEBFM)

5
https://bit.ly/331P8ZQ

Molly McCann
at_molmccann


I like at_TuckerCarlson a lot, and he has one of the best shows on television. But he sounds like a spoiled brat here. I wonder if he recalls his tepid and skeptical attitude toward Lt. General Michael Flynn in the past four years? Because I do. Sidney Powell, came to D.C. and...

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Oliver Darcy
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Tucker Carlson calls out Sidney Powell, saying he asked her for evidence to support her election fraud claims, but "she never sent us any evidence despite a lot of requests, polite requests, not a page."

"When we kept pressing she got angry and told us to stop contacting her."


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9:53 PM · Nov 19, 2020·Twitter Web App

Molly McCann
at_molmccann

9h

...tirelessly battered at the doors of the Department of Justice for over a year, all while posh D.C. mocked her as a crazy and continued to defame a war hero. She pushed through it all. It was Sidney who finally forced the DOJ to start turning over shocking documents; she...

...forced them to reveal details that not only exonerated Flynn but provided critical evidence about the attempted coup against the Trump administration by senior members of the FBI, DOJ, and crtically, Barack Obama and Joe Biden. Michael Flynn, an innocent man and a remarkable..

... patriot, would be doing jail time right now were it not for Sidney Powell's absolute conviction that he was innocent and that she could and would reveal the truth, come hell or high water. Frankly, had Sidney not come along and Flynn had gone to jail, I don't think Tucker...

...would have given it a second thought. Now, fresh off that exhausting year and half, Sidney has taken on an even more titanic struggle. She is working to prove that there is systemic, banana republic-like election fraud in our country. She says she has the evidence; she says...

...she can't send it yet... ok. So we have to be a little patient! The million-dollar question isn't why won't Sidney (who barely has time to sleep or eat) text Tucker the evidence he wants. The question is why won't Tucker text her and say, "whenever you are ready, and if you...

...choose, my platform is at your disposal to present your case to the nation, and until then good luck in the fight." Tucker's rant at Sidney tonight isn't journalistic hardball, I might add. This was just petty whining at the best of times, but all the more abrasive and...

...unimpressive given the grave stakes we are facing in this critical period in our history. Give Sidney some time and the benefit of the doubt - she has earned it...

Stop harassing an absolute warrior of a woman, who has already proven herself multiple times over, and do something constructive with your air time, Tucker.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 20, 2020 07:32 AM (Do5/p)

6 Oy.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2020 07:32 AM (oVJmc)

7 What fresh hell awaits this Friday morning?

To the content!

Posted by: Rosasharn at November 20, 2020 07:33 AM (yEBFM)

8 . The most egregious example of this was none other than Tucker Carlson himself. I'm not saying Carlson is supposed to go "rah-rah, go Trump!" for him to gain my approval. But for him to not recognize the purpose of yesterday's conference is either stupidity or something else. And he's no dope. I guess now we know why he didn't jump off the rapidly sinking wreckage of Fox News. Well, to hell with him.

yeah How dare they not give me the EVIDENCE!

wth?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 07:33 AM (sfhL4)

9 If Sidney pulls this off, she deserves a place on Mount Rushmore.

It must be a monument too large to tear down over or easily deface.

Posted by: President Elect 🐧 at November 20, 2020 07:33 AM (C+evo)

10 Warnock is a Godly man like me. We have nothing to fear with a man like him in Congress. Kudos CNN!

Posted by: Erik Errorickson at November 20, 2020 07:34 AM (O2r9j)

11 The recount shows I'm first.

Posted by: President Elect Joe Biden at November 20, 2020 07:34 AM (AutUY)

12 How obvious was the theft? So obvious that nearly a third of Democrats think it was stolen.

https://tinyurl.com/y36ph82r

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at November 20, 2020 07:34 AM (N17yv)

13 Good morning, Ultramaroons.

The wheels of justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine.

Posted by: All Hail President Eris, Benevolent Dictatrix at November 20, 2020 07:35 AM (Dc2NZ)

14 Morning Horde,

figures, i can't sleep and wake up at 5AM and JJ finally get s to sleep in on his birfday and doesn't post until his "normal" time.

now to go back and read the great writeup. thanks for all you do JJ.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2020 07:35 AM (8D42x)

15
Christiane Amanpour is a Jew-hating terrorist groupie.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 20, 2020 07:36 AM (mht8P)

16 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at November 20, 2020 07:36 AM (G0b25)

17 12 How obvious was the theft? So obvious that nearly a third of Democrats think it was stolen.

https://tinyurl.com/y36ph82r
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at November 20, 2020 07:34 AM (N17yv)


Got it in the links.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 07:37 AM (s2VJv)

18 Hey it's put up or shut up time. This evidence appears now or it is gonna be to late. I have heard a lot of talk, but so far, that is about it. Do I think they stole the election, absolutley, but we gotta prove it or go home. And prove it NOW

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2020 07:37 AM (tsZQ+)

19 Willowed I'll be in and out

JJ, I just heard that one TSA Employee has died with the coronavirus in the last year. One

Posted by: Undercover Brother is the third monkey at November 20, 2020 07:37 AM (f4uba)

20 Close game, a barn burner, early stages of the 4th quarter, and THE MOMENTUM HAS SHIFTED to the underdog team [team Trump]!

*readies more popcorn*

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 20, 2020 07:37 AM (4I/2K)

21 Christiane Amanpour is a Jew-hating terrorist groupie.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 20, 2020 07:36 AM (mht8P)

yeah a left winger. why are you repeating yourself? LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2020 07:37 AM (tsZQ+)

22 19 Willowed I'll be in and out

JJ, I just heard that one TSA Employee has died with the coronavirus in the last year. One
Posted by: Undercover Brother is the third monkey at November 20, 2020 07:37 AM (f4uba)


Oh my G-d! It's a plague!!!

Sheesh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 07:37 AM (s2VJv)

23 Sydney Powell has seen the elephant.

She is not afraid. Take courage from her and fight.

Viva La Trump!

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 20, 2020 07:37 AM (K5agK)

24 Mornin', all! Friyay . . .

What's y'all's projections on sportiness? I'm wondering if states start certifying on Monday, maybe Thanksgiving gets more interesting than usual.

Thanks, JJ, and Happy Birthday!

Posted by: Catherine at November 20, 2020 07:38 AM (ttyqM)

25 If anyone thinks that Powell and the others are doing this to burnish their credentials for a future TV gig or a book deal, well, I don't even know what to say to that.

If you haven't read this (and not sure if JJ linked it because I'm just going through the report), please red this. It tells you EXACTLY who Sidney Powell is and it is fantastic. She is a true warrior.

I Know Sidney Powell. She Is Telling the Truth
https://tinyurl.com/y2xzlg6p

Read it. What she's been through in her career, the fights she has fought for the truth. Turning down millions for the truth. A book that most likely destroys a lot of the deep state so publishers stayed away from it, yet no rebuttals by those accused like Andrew Weissman...

Really nice to read the support and truth from someone that knows her. She sounds solid. God protect her. Trump also, protect her.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 07:38 AM (sfhL4)

26
g'mornin' again, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 20, 2020 07:38 AM (kioLb)

27 Stop harassing an absolute warrior of a woman, who has already proven herself multiple times over, and do something constructive with your air time, Tucker.

This is one of the most f'd up things.

Here we have a story of the Century, and we have the number one "news journalism" guy working for a "news" organization who is demanding that a lawyer gift wrap a Pulitzer and drop it on his desk free of charge.

Here we have "news" organizations no longer to do anything more difficult than text someone demanding a full production ready product that can be wrapped up in a segment or two for ratings.

It doesn't get any more lazy and feckless than this.

J school is dead. There is no journalism.

Posted by: President Elect 🐧 at November 20, 2020 07:38 AM (C+evo)

28 Short Tucker: "Because it's true".

What's true? That she wouldn't come on your show and reveal what she said would come at a later time?

Jackass.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 20, 2020 07:39 AM (h2OUV)

29 Got it in the links.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 07:37 AM (s2VJv)

==============Found it! But it was at the end of the Wisconsin links, and not where I expected it. Sorry to repeat. I did check for it.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at November 20, 2020 07:39 AM (N17yv)

30 On the Hoaxvid front, the Ohio Senate has three bills to curb the emergency tyranny that Mini Mike DeWine has exercised, for which I sent an email to the head of the Senate commending his efforts. The diminutive dictator has promised to veto them but I'm pretty sure they have the votes to override it.

One term, Mikey, if that...

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2020 07:39 AM (y7DUB)

31 If Sidney pulls this off, she deserves a place on Mount Rushmore.



It must be a monument too large to tear down over or easily deface.

Posted by: President Elect [penguin] at November 20, 2020 07:33 AM (C+evo)

Okay, the moon it is.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 20, 2020 07:39 AM (4I/2K)

32
Woohoo

Happy birthday jj!!

Posted by: No comprende at November 20, 2020 07:40 AM (sRR1j)

33 TGIF!


Yes, Sidney is a national treasure.
Yes to everything you said in your opener, JJ!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 07:40 AM (bDqIh)

34 Moronin', Hourde!

Posted by: Hans O'Lo at November 20, 2020 07:41 AM (u7pQw)

35 I know people that maintain the line "Any method of getting rid of Trump is acceptable". Trump is, to them, the danger not the deceit dishonesty and degradation occurring with no end in sight. Not the subversion of the Constitution, not the dangers we are hurtling toward, not the increasingly likely confrontations and the attendant casualties. Trump. He's some monster threatening the idyllic peace our elites have worked SO HARD to create.
I am moving much closer to being at peace with a revolt despite the unintended consequences.

Posted by: Clean Underwear When I wear It at November 20, 2020 07:42 AM (ln5wD)

36 I haven't heard anything from Powell that sounds like evidence. The story of Dominion will get people roused up, but there has to be evidence of actual vote switching to matter. You prove it once, and then the house of cards falls down. But we need proof.
I think the statistical arguments are powerful and need to be explained clearly to the American public how absolutely unlikely were the voting patterns that occurred early Wed morning. Compare turnout numbers. Compare mail-in voting rates. Look at the fact that the only way numbers came in the way they did was because of programs and algorythms.

Posted by: iandeal at November 20, 2020 07:42 AM (vgGyZ)

37 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 20, 2020 07:42 AM (arJlL)

38 Did ya see sundown said he is not going to shut down the ecenomy, only shut down the virus? LOL

Does he have magical powers? Are these Jack's beans he is using?
What a phony dumb fuck liar. And the people who voted for this imbicile are worse

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2020 07:42 AM (tsZQ+)

39 Good morning y'all!

Posted by: tbodie at November 20, 2020 07:42 AM (2El4P)

40 Tucker is getting kind of lazy isn't he? If you want to see evidence go do some journalistic investigation of your own and have yourself s scoop, it's not they hard to find evidence of fraudulent activities in this election. Instead he wants a real busy woman to drop everything else she is doing and tell him what's happening.

Posted by: IC at November 20, 2020 07:43 AM (Nyumu)

41 "....they panicked and someone sent out a signal to the six swing states ...."

This is THE case.

You are correct JJ. THE fatal flaw....the conspirators were forced to expose themselves when the Trump legit vote tsunami overcame the embedded cheat algorithm.

Offering many millions in reward(s) will find a weak link in that 'signal' chain.

Some rather rich patriot needs to step forward and back the reward(s).

Posted by: Voter theater. at November 20, 2020 07:43 AM (WbAOU)

42 Ol' Yeller last night referred to Andy McCarthy as "my former pal". Good riddance.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2020 07:43 AM (y7DUB)

43
As Someone said earlier:

"As if lady liberty herself wrested her feet from anchor and appeared at podium at the right time"

Posted by: Who knew at November 20, 2020 07:44 AM (sRR1j)

44 Church Militant (traditional/conservative) RC site has a 30 minute program of the highlights of the Conference and analysis, and as a completely irrelevant and interesting (to me) item, within the first couple of minutes it has a tiny clip of Rudy Guiliani as prosecutor in the 1980's taking on organized crime. He was a nice looking man.:

https://tinyurl.com/y3rsun72

Pray for the Trump team lawyers!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2020 07:44 AM (WkPC9)

45 "conduct their own investigations"

whaaaa?

Posted by: Most everyone involved at November 20, 2020 07:44 AM (O2r9j)

46 I haven't heard anything from Powell that sounds like evidence. The story of Dominion will get people roused up, but there has to be evidence of actual vote switching to matter. You prove it once, and then the house of cards falls down. But we need proof.
I think the statistical arguments are powerful and need to be explained clearly to the American public how absolutely unlikely were the voting patterns that occurred early Wed morning. Compare turnout numbers. Compare mail-in voting rates. Look at the fact that the only way numbers came in the way they did was because of programs and algorythms.
Posted by: iandeal at November 20, 2020 07:42 AM (vgGyZ)


The most scary thing? She doesn't trust who took the servers. Do you think we can trust anyone other then Trump with the Servers? I'm angry about this part.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 07:44 AM (sfhL4)

47 Re: MI SoS insisting they certify the results -- someone here recommended the latest Steven Crowder video that reviews the results by precinct. It might as well read FRAUD in giant red letters. That 140+k Biden lead are all absentee and unregistered voter ballots. The votes by precinct outnumbering the eligible voters by 100+% in many places cannot be ignored, either.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 07:45 AM (bDqIh)

48 Tucker is getting kind of lazy isn't he? If you want to see evidence go do some journalistic investigation of your own and have yourself s scoop, it's not they hard to find evidence of fraudulent activities in this election. Instead he wants a real busy woman to drop everything else she is doing and tell him what's happening.
Posted by: IC at November 20, 2020 07:43 AM (Nyumu)

It's hard for Tucker to piss me off . He has an opinion show and I respect his opinion. Some opinions are not easy to take but....
Last night was cowardice.
Tucker is off my list. This , of all the times in modern history, is no time for cowardice.

Posted by: Voter theater. at November 20, 2020 07:45 AM (WbAOU)

49 Tucker is getting kind of lazy isn't he? If you want to see evidence go do some journalistic investigation of your own and have yourself s scoop, it's not they hard to find evidence of fraudulent activities in this election. Instead he wants a real busy woman to drop everything else she is doing and tell him what's happening.
Posted by: IC at November 20, 2020 07:43 AM (Nyumu)


They were firing texts at her. Clowns. She does not have time for talking heads.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 07:45 AM (sfhL4)

50 So- the same people who created the Russia Hoax, enlisted the help of our intelligence agencies, foreign agents and the FBI now have a hard time believing some of those people may be involved in manipulating our election.

Oh, and they want more proof.

Got it.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 20, 2020 07:45 AM (h2OUV)

51 If we could build an atomic bomb in 4 years in 1940, we could build the Apollo program in the 60s, we sure as hell can develop and deploy a fraud proof voting system before 2024.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2020 07:46 AM (5myV4)

52 Put the eva-dense in the car, Junior!

Posted by: Sheriff Buford T. Justice at November 20, 2020 07:48 AM (4I/2K)

53 I said "opening argument" was problematic because far too many in the press and even here consider this a trial, or at the very least, are castigating Team Trump for not showing the evidence in one fell swoop and then expecting like magic all the electoral votes will wind up in Trump's column. Yesterday was not the trial; it was merely the necessary public affirmation and rebuttal to the media narrative begun two weeks ago tomorrow when the press proclaimed Biden to be the winner.

Possibly the wisest words ever posted here, JJ.

Those here who are attorneys or those, like myself, who spent a career supporting and educating attorneys understand.

I fully understand the desire to see all the evidence dumped in real time, with Patriots getting an early preview. However; that's not the way legal trials work: Releasing everything before the proper time can sink a case before it even get to the fact-finder(s).

Posted by: Michael the Texan at November 20, 2020 07:48 AM (9IdCK)

54 The rest of Fox can sink into bankruptcy for all I care, but I do love Maria Bartiromo and Dagen McDowell. They are two outspoken, unmuzzled women -- it's as if they are not even of Fox.

Posted by: JM in Florida - I search w DuckDuckGo at November 20, 2020 07:49 AM (HCeRP)

55 on Sidney Powell


She Gave Up Everything to Expose Abusive Prosecutors

But that wasn't enough. At a huge financial sacrifice, she took time off from her practice to write a book. And self-publish it. And hire a public relations firm to get it out to people, when media ignored it. That book,
Licensed to Lie, is absolutely chilling. It shows innocent Americans, even a U.S. Senator such as Ted Stevens of Alaska, unable to defend themselves against prosecutors with vendettas. It recounts how innocent companies, like accounting firm Arthur Anderson, can be broken by biased and dishonest federal prosecutors, and left in ruins. A real-life legal horror story, the book was too disturbing for me to read it through to the end.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 07:49 AM (sfhL4)

56 51 If we could build an atomic bomb in 4 years in 1940, we could build the Apollo program in the 60s, we sure as hell can develop and deploy a fraud proof voting system before 2024.

Indeed you are currect

Posted by: Mr. Kubrick at November 20, 2020 07:49 AM (sRR1j)

57 They were firing texts at her. Clowns. She does not have time for talking heads.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 07:45 AM (sfhL4)


I am not quite sure why the anger at Tucker here (note I don't watch his show).

Powell clearly has time for talking heads. She is on Newsmax, Lou Dobbs, Maria Bartiromo....

The response from Powell seems off IF Tucker is telling the truth about how they asked her on the show.

If someone says "hey wanna explain this crazypants thing you are talking about" a strong rebuff is de rigeur.

If someone says I will give you airtime to explain the accusations you are leveling, that's entirely different.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 07:49 AM (ZfRYq)

58 They were firing texts at her. Clowns. She does not have time for talking heads.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 07:45 AM (sfhL4)


Exactly. She's working against time to put together cases and Tucker expects her to drop everything to respond to him? That's a hard to overlook bit of hubris on his part.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2020 07:49 AM (y7DUB)

59 There's a reason the dems pushed mail in voting so hard.

If you believe it had something to do with your safety, you're a complete idiot.

I fault DJT for not also pushing people HARD to vote by mail.

Posted by: MJ at November 20, 2020 07:50 AM (gAMkn)

60 The banks handle a gazillion transactions a day with very few errors. You would think handling an election would be easy compared to that.

Posted by: f'd at November 20, 2020 07:50 AM (O2r9j)

61 'not even ON Fox"

Posted by: JM in Florida - I search w DuckDuckGo at November 20, 2020 07:50 AM (HCeRP)

62 If we could build an atomic bomb in 4 years in 1940, we could build the Apollo program in the 60s, we sure as hell can develop and deploy a fraud proof voting system before 2024.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2020 07:46 AM (5myV4)

If you have the will, there is a way...unfortunetaly there is not will or desire to do that.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2020 07:50 AM (tsZQ+)

63 51 If we could build an atomic bomb in 4 years in 1940, we could build the Apollo program in the 60s, we sure as hell can develop and deploy a fraud proof voting system before 2024.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2020 07:46 AM (5myV4)


We wanted to go to the Moon.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 07:50 AM (ZfRYq)

64 Tucker just took a giant smelly Kevin Williamson in the bed. He is done for me. I think it will be worthwhile for everyone to do his best to get his ratings down to CNN levels or below.

Posted by: Steve in Greensboro at November 20, 2020 07:50 AM (Su9Le)

65 It's because we are relying on human beings, some all of whom are very flawed (as well as scared shitless of winding up dead) to actually do their constitutional duty. If you're already praying for Trump and the nation, you might want to ask the Lord to give all of these people the strength and courage to do what they have to do and save this republic.

It's not over, not by a long shot. But the clock is ticking.


FIFY

Posted by: Michael the Texan at November 20, 2020 07:51 AM (9IdCK)

66 When this is over, there needs to be a big spectacle of a trial. There is no way Biden, Perez, Schumer and Pelosi did not know about the fraud. PMITA prison for them all

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2020 07:51 AM (5myV4)

67 I think Sidney Powell is cut from classic American legal cloth. The way she weaved her words around both facts and evocations of our Republic was in the vein of Daniel Webster.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 20, 2020 07:51 AM (H8QX8)

68 Good morning all! Still praying for POTUS and our nation

Posted by: Jmel at November 20, 2020 07:51 AM (gk0Yz)

69 powell, cont

If these charges are false, their careers are finished. If defamation lawsuits get launched -- and I don't see how Dominion has any choice but to file them, or go bankrupt -- Sidney Powell could lose her house and her license to practice law. She'd be a pauper. The same is true of Ellis, Giuliani, and anyone else on the president's team. But only if the charges are unsupported and untrue.

Given the death threats to election officials in Michigan, and the doxing of their children, for refusing to certify a corrupt election, I'd say Ms. Powell is risking a lot more than money.


I think I also read on this author's twitter feed, the off the cuff comment, and they know the Clinton's are still alive...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 07:51 AM (sfhL4)

70 JJ,
Our MI House speaker quashed the impeachment of wHitler yesterday. He says it failed in DC and is not appropriate for MI.
He and our equally squishy Republican senate majority leader are meeting PDT in the White House today.

Hopefully PDT shows solid evidence of the vote fraud that has occurred in my fair state of MI, because as of now they plan to award our electors to the Democrat party.
Democrats are rushing the state certification through. If you're so sure the vote was clean, let's verify it and make PDT look stupid.

Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2020 07:53 AM (9UmRs)

71 We wanted to go to the Moon.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 07:50 AM (ZfRYq)

Pfft! Aim bigger and steal it.

Posted by: Gru at November 20, 2020 07:53 AM (4I/2K)

72 Achievement Unlocked: U.S. Navy Destroyer Shoots Down ICBM for the First Time

Scientism says you cannot hit a bullet with a bullet!

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 20, 2020 07:53 AM (JFO2v)

73 Today's letters to the" NY Post are all urging Trump to concede the election. This must be the big talking point: Trump must concede to "save our democracy". Most of the letters are from people from Manhattan including Kreg Ramone, who regularly writes to say how awful Trump is, but one is from someone in Ohio, so if you want to write to the "NY Post" saying that you think Trump should not concede, and that rigged elections will destroy our democracy e-mail to:

letters@nypost.com

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2020 07:54 AM (WkPC9)

74 Hey,

The first week was .. interesting with no cable news,
But like anything it passes - I just leave my cable box off now or on hallmark (I guess that's what the lady likes).

No tuning to fox ever again.

Unless I see hari cari (sp?) live ... then maybe


DEAD TO ME

Posted by: DIE FOX DIE SLOWLY at November 20, 2020 07:54 AM (sRR1j)

75 last post on Powell

But there Sidney stood fearlessly on television, her voice quavering a little at the enormity of the evil she has helped to uncover. Meanwhile the Vichy-conservatives over at National Review and other "squish" venues sniped at her, and at Rudolph Giuliani, who faced down the hitmen of the New York Mafia, then broke its back. One called the Trump team "unhinged," and sniffed at its lack of "dignity."

Fox News reporter Kristin Fisher called Mr. Giuliani a "liar."

Sniffy Vichy Conservatives
If you think your country's elections are being stolen, and your main concern is for keeping your "dignity," then I don't want you next to me in a foxhole. You'll switch sides if the enemy offers a chocolate bar, and a chance to save your skin.

I want someone like Sidney Powell, a whistleblower and a Christian patriot. I hope her evidence is watertight and bullet proof--and frankly, that for the next few weeks she has taken to wearing Kevlar. That's how much I trust the people who want to silence her.

Please pray for her safety and the future of our democracy.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 07:54 AM (sfhL4)

76 The mask may come off a little bit but the Democrats stealing this election is more important than me continuing my fake conservative role!

Posted by: Tucker Carlson at November 20, 2020 07:55 AM (lRrON)

77 Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2020 07:39 AM (y7DUB)

Come on over to the MoMe tomorrow in Buckeyeville. I am driving from MI.

Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2020 07:55 AM (9UmRs)

78 I hope those who venerate Cucker Carlson will get off his nut now, after he felt the need to trash Sidney Powell. This is his exact quote when he decided to trash Sidney Powell, "She never sent us any evidence despite a lot of requests--polite requests. Not a page."



Yeah, laughably this POS expected Sidney to get back with him asap after yesterday's press conference because he's somebody and she should do what he says. Fuck him. He hates Trump and Trump supporters, always has.

Posted by: Kwai Chang Mandelblit at November 20, 2020 07:55 AM (o+znz)

79 Yesterday was not the trial; it was merely the necessary public affirmation and rebuttal to the media narrative begun two weeks ago tomorrow when the press proclaimed Biden to be the winner.


The public opinion is crucial to this. The "electors" or whoever decides the final say in each state need to have overwhelming support or they will duck and hide in fear. It is crucial that this gets out and people see and believe what is really going on.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 07:57 AM (sfhL4)

80 >> I haven't heard anything from Powell that sounds like evidence.


She has affidavits from a number of Dominion people (don't know how many) including one who was there when it was created, IIRC, including the requirements that it can be used to steal elections from Chavez, and then the demonstration to him that it works. I would guess that the other Dominion whistle-blowers were either onsite on election day and witnessed the steal (such as the Detroit woman whose internet interview went viral) and possibly more involved in the programming? Rudy mentioned they had to work hard just to convince a handful of the 100's or more of people who have provided evidence from across the swing states to have their names released -- they fear the mob.

What gives me confidence is that she and Rudy named specific Dominion people, including Mark Malloch-Brown, the Venezuelan Smartmatic founder, and Eric Coomer. I doubt they would do this if they couldn't back it up, knowing how serious both Sidney and Rudy are.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 07:57 AM (bDqIh)

81 "She never sent us any evidence despite a lot of requests--polite requests. Not a page."

***
It's gone to his head. It always does -- few can pass Kipling's test. He's dwarfed by someone like Sidney Powell.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 20, 2020 07:58 AM (H8QX8)

82 @57 "Powell clearly has time for talking heads. She is on Newsmax, Lou Dobbs, Maria Bartiromo..."

This. I agree w/Tucker, and have been saying this myself for days - it's time for her to put her cards on the table.

-c

Posted by: cnation at November 20, 2020 07:58 AM (DML7G)

83
The only reason we cannot have an easily achievable, simple and virtually foolproof voting system is the Democrats spending as much energy in preventing it.

It's easy. Election Day is one day every two years. One citizen with a government issued ID gets to vote. Absentee ballots are for military or other overseas personnel or anyone who applies well in advance and with all the proper paperwork.

NO computer voting. Paper ballots only, printed like currency with serial numbers and other security measures to prevent forgery or use after the fact.

Abolish motor voter and all the other crap. Can't prepare for one day every two years? Too bad.

Federal marshalls or military police at every polling station along with observers from each party.

Etc.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 07:59 AM (s2VJv)

84 True that Sidney was on all the talk shows but what Tucker wanted from her was the court case presented to him with a pretty bow. F him. Save that for court. I was not happy with Tucker's programming this week at all and that stupid new "standing up for what's right" makes me puke. Is it a jab or a peace sign? Who knows.

Posted by: Jaimo at November 20, 2020 07:59 AM (/Kt3K)

85 There's a reason the dems pushed mail in voting so hard.

If you believe it had something to do with your safety, you're a complete idiot.

I fault DJT for not also pushing people HARD to vote by mail.



Out of sight? Leaving it to be handled by the USPS and the vote counters?

Voting in person lets everyone see the process. Lets you see your vote delivered.

Otherwise you drop it in a mailbox and who knows what happens to it after that.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2020 07:59 AM (oVJmc)

86 Our MI House speaker quashed the impeachment of wHitler yesterday. He says it failed in DC and is not appropriate for MI.

This is so GOPe and why we get sold out constantly. They are two separate issues and it's an insult to compare them. Whitmer has ignored or worked around all legal and legislative curbs on her power. If you don't have the votes to impeach her and don't have the guts to try to change that, then just admit it instead of hiding behind a spurious comparison.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2020 07:59 AM (y7DUB)

87 I guess Barky hugging up on Chavez had long term benefits.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 20, 2020 07:59 AM (kszLT)

88 Why won't Sydney Powell give me the names of the people who signed affidavits so my fellow Democrats can threaten them?

Posted by: Tucker Carlson at November 20, 2020 07:59 AM (lRrON)

89 36 I haven't heard anything from Powell that sounds like evidence. The story of Dominion will get people roused up, but there has to be evidence of actual vote switching to matter. You prove it once, and then the house of cards falls down. But we need proof.
I think the statistical arguments are powerful and need to be explained clearly to the American public how absolutely unlikely were the voting patterns that occurred early Wed morning. Compare turnout numbers. Compare mail-in voting rates. Look at the fact that the only way numbers came in the way they did was because of programs and algorythms.
Posted by: iandeal at November 20, 2020 07:42 AM (vgGyZ)

Then get your head out of your ass.

Posted by: Kwai Chang Mandelblit at November 20, 2020 08:00 AM (o+znz)

90 Today's letters to the" NY Post are all urging Trump
to concede the election. This must be the big talking point: Trump
must concede to "save our democracy". Most of the letters are from
people from Manhattan including Kreg Ramone, who regularly writes to say
how awful Trump is, but one is from someone in Ohio, so if you want to
write to the "NY Post" saying that you think Trump should not concede,
and that rigged elections will destroy our democracy e-mail to:



letters@nypost.com

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2020 07:54 AM (WkPC9)
They mean to save the lie, the corruption, the grift. It's about to erupt like a festering pustule.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 20, 2020 08:00 AM (4I/2K)

91 Any bets on which country the leadership of Dominion and Smartmatic reappear in?

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 20, 2020 08:00 AM (W+kMI)

92 What if all the states that Trump won, refuse to certify, what would happen? Would plugs win by default , or would that throw it to the house?
Just wondering if pro Trump states can do anything to help this situation?

Posted by: Spypeach at November 20, 2020 08:01 AM (Up/Jb)

93
If the GOP had a channel they would also be

DEAD TO ME

Posted by: DIE GOP DIE SLOWLY (then quick please) at November 20, 2020 08:01 AM (sRR1j)

94 @38

As has been said, if Biden get installed all they have to do/will do is jig around with testing standards, testing criteria and reporting standards and, voila, the virus goes "away."


This entire hell we are experiencing has been an op from jump street, once the op has served it's purpose, the op goes away.


Or said another way, Abra Cadabra filthy hobbits.




Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 20, 2020 08:02 AM (u/Xy6)

95 91 Any bets on which country the leadership of Dominion and Smartmatic reappear in?
Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 20, 2020 08:00 AM (W+kMI)


Hong Kong. Caracas is a war zone.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 08:02 AM (s2VJv)

96 82 @57 "Powell clearly has time for talking heads. She is on Newsmax, Lou Dobbs, Maria Bartiromo..."

This. I agree w/Tucker, and have been saying this myself for days - it's time for her to put her cards on the table.

-c
Posted by: cnation at November 20, 2020 07:58 AM (DML7G)


Once again, where have you been? Trials are not litigated through press conferences. As for any evidence she's presented? If you are not aware all you have to do is get your head out of your ass also.

Posted by: Kwai Chang Mandelblit at November 20, 2020 08:02 AM (o+znz)

97 Any bets on which country the leadership of Dominion and Smartmatic reappear in?
Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 20, 2020 08:00 AM (W+kMI)


Neighbors of Tom Hanks.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 20, 2020 08:02 AM (GHLVi)

98 Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 07:45 AM (bDqIh)

That was me that posted it this morning, Crowder's video. Someone else posted it before me, I forget who. I am extremely skeptical that the MI SoS thinks she can get away with 173,000 ballots from unregistered voters, but then I watched the video. Is Crowder reliable? Below is the video

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y3aa7a5b

Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2020 08:02 AM (9UmRs)

99 Paul Ryan: So far we've managed to get rid of most of our audience but apparently there are some bitter clingers who just won't leave.

Tucker: Hold my beer!

Posted by: Faux News at November 20, 2020 08:03 AM (lRrON)

100 Come on over to the MoMe tomorrow in Buckeyeville. I am driving from MI.
Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2020 07:55 AM (9UmRs)


Sorry, can't make it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2020 08:03 AM (y7DUB)

101 ZOD LIVES MATTER.

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 08:03 AM (xK9An)

102 Someone at /pol/ summarizes yesterday's press conference succinctly (language warning because the /pol/ people are crude):


https://gab.com/Caudill/posts

/105240560537751040

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 08:04 AM (bDqIh)

103 Thank you JJ.
I was assured by all the best people that Tucker was above reproach. The people who supported Trump when he was leading the best economy in years, for blacks, women, hispanics, leading the stock market to all time highs, etc. Who now do not support him when he is fighting for his life, and the life of this country...I have seen such people before. And I will remember.

Posted by: MikeM at November 20, 2020 08:04 AM (OqsNP)

104 88 Why won't Sydney Powell give me the names of the people who signed affidavits so my fellow Democrats can threaten them?
Posted by: Tucker Carlson at November 20, 2020 07:59 AM (lRrON)


This is delicious.

Posted by: Kwai Chang Mandelblit at November 20, 2020 08:04 AM (o+znz)

105 Good Morning. I'm old enough (under 35) to remember when men had libraries or studies in their homes instead of "man caves". I remember my dad staying up late at night to read and think when after we all went to bed. This is what men used to do, and what I still do.
Why has there been so much propaganda and cultural push away from libraries and studies at home? Why are "man caves" or "entertainment rooms" more acceptable to wives and girlfriends than libraries and studies? Why do they object to their men staying up late at night to read and think?

*early morning thought of the day*

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 20, 2020 08:05 AM (jvld5)

106 "Powell clearly has time for talking heads. She is on Newsmax, Lou Dobbs, Maria Bartiromo..."

This. I agree w/Tucker, and have been saying this myself for days - it's time for her to put her cards on the table.

-c
Posted by: cnation at November 20, 2020 07:58 AM (DML7G)


She chooses when and where.

You've got to ask yourself -

1 - how did they get her number to "text" her?
2 - how many times were they shooting texts at her while she is trying to work (and probably getting texts from important people while working)? Was his team spamming her on her phone? I bet you they were. They wanted a scoop.

She can choose who and where to talk. I bet you they did not want to come out for 90 minutes wasting precious time, but that is part of the ridiculous game.

They need to counter the monsters narrative. So they were forced to.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 08:05 AM (sfhL4)

107 98 Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 07:45 AM (bDqIh)

That was me that posted it this morning, Crowder's video. Someone else posted it before me, I forget who. I am extremely skeptical that the MI SoS thinks she can get away with 173,000 ballots from unregistered voters, but then I watched the video. Is Crowder reliable? Below is the video

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y3aa7a5b
Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2020 08:02 AM (9UmRs)

Given the direct source of the data I don't think it's so much an issue of Crowder's reliability. Clearly there's something massively wrong with what Wayne County recorded and published.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 20, 2020 08:05 AM (Zm+LZ)

108 Yeah, laughably this POS expected Sidney to get back with him asap after yesterday's press conference because he's somebody and she should do what he says. Fuck him. He hates Trump and Trump supporters, always has.
Posted by: Kwai Chang Mandelblit at November 20, 2020 07:55 AM (o+znz)

Fox delenda est

Posted by: DOJ is fat and incapable at November 20, 2020 08:06 AM (ONvIw)

109 92 - Spypeach

Some of the AGs of the various states have filed amicus briefs. But, other than that, they've done their jobs.It's now a matter for the courts (and the states they reside in) to deal with this.

This IS going to the Supreme Court, that was the plan from the get-go. Team Trump is using the Rule of Law to the fullest extent.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 20, 2020 08:06 AM (W+kMI)

110 If someone says "hey wanna explain this crazypants thing you are talking about" a strong rebuff is de rigeur.
If someone says I will give you airtime to explain the accusations you are leveling, that's entirely different.
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 07:49 AM (ZfRYq)
~~~~~

Powell was on Maria Bartiromo's show just a bit ago and said that she did give them some info/evidence to run with but didn't go further because they were so rude. When they kept pestering her, she finally told them to bug off.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 20, 2020 08:06 AM (sGotD)

111 Remember the "we deserve to see the evidence crowd" is the same crowd that gave the evidence free Russian collusion and Covid mask and lockdown crap the benefit of the doubt.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 20, 2020 08:06 AM (4thlk)

112 @92
"What if all the states that Trump won, refuse to certify, what would happen? Would plugs win by default , or would that throw it to the house?
Just wondering if pro Trump states can do anything to help this situation?"

If no candidate gets 270 certified electoral votes it goes to the House, voting by delegation (one state, one vote). In theory, that means there are more GOP votes and Trump wins. In practice: the media have prepped the political battlefield to make all Democrats and a good chunk of "Republicans" believe that Biden "really won" the vote, including a massive "popular vote" margin (not true factually, and a meaningless metric).

So Congresscritters would be faced with the wrath of the riot-prone segments of society about "stealing" their votes. And you can bet your farm, your left nut and your children on the fact that this will be racialized to the nth degree : "Trump is trying to throw out the votes of black and brown people" etc.

So the pressure on Congress would be enormous to resist the "righteous wrath" of those will claim to be "disenfranchised" by "insane dictator Trump." Will they just defect to Biden? Or will MAGA people counter protest in sufficient numbers to give them spine?

Partly depends, I think, on whether they can come up with "smoking gun" forensic evidence on massive Dominion manipulation. I think there's ample other evidence on the micro level that DJT won the election, but that alone wont carry the day from a political standpoint IMO.

So I think it comes down to:
1. The strength of evidence of the Dominion-manipulation case
2. The political mobilization of MAGA.

Posted by: Zek at November 20, 2020 08:07 AM (r4fw8)

113 All of this reminds me of Scooter Libby for some reason. We knew he had absolutely nothing to do with leaking anything, but yet he was shafted. What do you think the outcome of this is going to be? I have little hope that the right thing will be done. I know the President hasn't given up, I get that. I can probably bet you that Libby didn't give up either, look at what happened there.

Posted by: stourma at November 20, 2020 08:07 AM (bbYBJ)

114 Morning all.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2020 08:07 AM (Z+uwH)

115
As I wrote, the most monumental case in US history probably and one that would take hundreds of lawyers months to prepare has got to be ready in two weeks. And presented to the fucking Supreme Court.

And Carlson is bitching about being ignored???

The fuck.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 08:07 AM (s2VJv)

116 104 88 Why won't Sydney Powell give me the names of the people who signed affidavits so my fellow Democrats can threaten them?
Posted by: Tucker Carlson at November 20, 2020 07:59 AM (lRrON)


This is delicious.
Posted by: Kwai Chang Mandelblit at November 20, 2020 08:04 AM (o+znz)

And very true, it's exactly what he plans to do. I suspect the "missing" Bobolinski papers were destroyed and an empty envelope was mailed. Tucker was not innocent.

Posted by: DOJ is fat and incapable at November 20, 2020 08:08 AM (ONvIw)

117 Will the Vaccine Protect Against Serious Chinese COVID Cases?

**********

I'm puzzled by the underlying premise here. The author cites unnamed "vaccination experts" who ...

"... are warning that what still needs to be determined is the new vaccine's effectiveness in preventing serious cases of COVID that require hospitalizations."

The vaccine is new, and until it has been deployed in a significant sized population, for a significant length of time, there will continue to be unanswered questions.

The purpose of the fast-tracking should be to determine three things;

1. Is it safe?
2. Does it induce antibody formation?
3. Does it substantially reduce susceptibility to contracting the virus?

Check, check and check

Posted by: Muldoon at November 20, 2020 08:08 AM (m45I2)

118 I Know Sidney Powell. She Is Telling the Truth

@@@@

Nothing telegraphs "How would you like you Donkey Steak?" like Powell in Leopard print.

Posted by: Piratepatch at November 20, 2020 08:08 AM (2Xrky)

119 GOP had best be prepared to jerrymander the f*ck out of those 43 percent of House districts they own. In fact, if they're not laying the groundwork for screwing d's wherever and whenever they can, they're guilty of political malpractice.

Posted by: Sirius the Canine Pundit at November 20, 2020 08:08 AM (LBO1U)

120 >>111 Remember the "we deserve to see the evidence crowd" is the same crowd that gave the evidence free Russian collusion and Covid mask and lockdown crap the benefit of the doubt. Posted by: lowandslow at November 20, 2020 08:06 AM (4thlk)

Your net-cast is too wide. I'd like to see the evidence, and I never gave Russia/mask-mandate any credence.

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 08:08 AM (xK9An)

121 Whoa: Nearly a Third of Democrats Believe the Election Was Stolen From Trump
___________

It also showed 47% overall believe that. And that's a poll. So a majority presumably believes that, as do 35-40% of Democrats.

All my life I've noticed that we tend to get lowballed (2000 was an exception). It's been persistent. But it has gotten far worse.

And Happy Birthday JJ. This has been a big help, especially lately. Until yesterday's presser, I was sinking into despair. Now I am pissed off.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 08:09 AM (7X3UV)

122 113 All of this reminds me of Scooter Libby for some reason. We knew he had absolutely nothing to do with leaking anything, but yet he was shafted. What do you think the outcome of this is going to be? I have little hope that the right thing will be done. I know the President hasn't given up, I get that. I can probably bet you that Libby didn't give up either, look at what happened there.
Posted by: stourma at November 20, 2020 08:07 AM (bbYBJ)


Scooter Libby was set up by the DoJ/FBI and the jury heard a trumped up case.

This case is truth and fact by the megaton. With well over 73 million people agreeing with it. If the GOP in the House ignore that, well, what can I say?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 08:10 AM (s2VJv)

123 Sidney told Maria Bartiromo that Tucker "was insulting and rude." Powell also said she offered an affidavit and a witness to explain

Posted by: JM in Florida - I search w DuckDuckGo at November 20, 2020 08:10 AM (HCeRP)

124 Tucker did everyone a huge favor last night. Now, its even easier for us to cast Fauxnews into the outer darkness. Gee, thanks Tuck!

Posted by: THE Lonebadger at November 20, 2020 08:10 AM (vYL7p)

125 we deserve to see the evidence crowd

@@@@

Those are either babies (Scott Adams its not about your feelings) or opposition looking for how to fight. Loose lips sink ships. Let them sweat.

Posted by: Piratepatch at November 20, 2020 08:10 AM (2Xrky)

126 >>Is Crowder reliable?

I watched the video. I don't regularly watch Crowder, but he always posts links to any statistics/research he relies upon when discussing a topic. He encourages viewers to check out his sources and decide for themselves. So, it's not about how reliable he is, but the source of his numbers. He is reliably open about his sources and conclusions, so I trust him more than the MSM.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 08:11 AM (bDqIh)

127 ... Can't prepare for one day every two years? Too bad. ... -- J. J. Sefton 20201120

You. I like how this is talking. (it sounds better in itialian)

Posted by: 0x1E at November 20, 2020 08:11 AM (sRR1j)

128 Judges tend not to look to kindly on lawyers that choose to try their cases in the court of public opinion before they come to court.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 20, 2020 08:11 AM (kszLT)

129 Wretched Whitmer Warns of Legal Ramifications for Anyone Attempting to Disenfranchise Black Voters
___________

You know, when they came up with the term, the Romans did not consider a dictator to be a bad thing. Quite the opposite. In fact, if you had one in your family, it was something to brag about.

We may see a similar development of "governor" and "journalist".

Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 08:11 AM (7X3UV)

130 Cucker Election Day +1, "The President deserves to have his challenges heard in court, personally I don't think it's going to change the election outcome".

Just the other day, "We're not going anywhere, FFox news like's what we do and they want more of it. And we're grateful for that".

Yesterday, trash Sidney Powell for not kowtowing to him.

Lest we forget, Cucker is the pussy who ranted about Trump and his supporters to a Swiss rag. I guess he thought it wouldn't be translated and reach America, or he didn't care. Cucker fits right in with Sammon and the gang.

Posted by: Kwai Chang Mandelblit at November 20, 2020 08:12 AM (o+znz)

131 94 - Thomas Bender

I respectfully disagree. All the across the planet, The Great Reset is being RUSHED into being.

Even here, people are beginning to realize that the 'powers that be' want to turn their homes into comfy cages.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 20, 2020 08:12 AM (W+kMI)

132 60 The banks handle a gazillion transactions a day with very few errors. You would think handling an election would be easy compared to that.
Posted by: f'd at November 20, 2020 07:50

I disagree. I send out many things via cert mail. Just in the past 6 months it has taken 2-3 months to received the signed green card back. I still have some original documents languishing in some Dallas post office from the spring of 2018 that has not been delivered.

Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2020 08:12 AM (QoPXA)

133 I think PDT will reinstate his lawsuit in MI if we move to certify statewide, which is supposed to happen Monday.
Clyde Shelton has posted his findings on the hinkiness of the election in our state. Blood red counties with way higher Democrat votes in 20 than in 16.
If Detroit was so confident of being on the up and up, they would not have cut off the live stream video when they were harassing the two canvassers. We also wouldn't be rushing a certification. Make PDT look like a fool, audit Detroit.

Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2020 08:12 AM (9UmRs)

134 "Your net-cast is too wide. I'd like to see the evidence, and I never gave Russia/mask-mandate any credence."


Well you either will or you won't within a month. If that's not good enough, I don't know what to say.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 20, 2020 08:12 AM (4thlk)

135 Powell: Here is all of my evidence of fraud in 10,000 printed pages.

Dems: The evidence has been discredited.

Powell: Damn, there goes my case!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2020 08:14 AM (5myV4)

136 If we're going to debate the vaccine, perhaps the key questions should be:

1. How valid is the justification (deadliness of the virus) for fast-tracking, subsidizing development and using taxpayer funding to provide the vaccine?

2. What is the proper role of federal government in terms of public health?

Posted by: Muldoon at November 20, 2020 08:14 AM (m45I2)

137 >> If that's not good enough, I don't know what to say. Posted by: lowandslow at November 20, 2020 08:12 AM (4thlk)

You will say ten "Zod Imperials." Go forth and sin no more.

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 08:14 AM (xK9An)

138 oops f'd. I read that as the post office not the bank. Apologies. moar coffee.

Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2020 08:14 AM (QoPXA)

139 I respectfully disagree. All the across the planet, The Great Reset is being RUSHED into being.

Talking about that right now with my work bud at breakfast before we hit the road. There's a reason that the bar and restaurant industry is under attack. Its no accident.

Posted by: Always Be Lurking at November 20, 2020 08:15 AM (cWLG9)

140 Hungary Proposes Amendment to Protect Children's Biological "Sex" and "Christian" Upbringing
___________

What is their immigration policy?

(Just kidding. I hope.)

Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 08:15 AM (7X3UV)

141 Saw a headline this morning:

Thousands of New Coronavirus Cases PENDING as Ohio Curfew Begins.

Uh, what the fuck is a "pending" case?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 20, 2020 08:15 AM (vg8iE)

142 Cucker fits right in with Sammon and the gang.
Posted by: Kwai Chang Mandelblit at November 20, 2020 08:12 AM (o+znz)


Sammon gets overlooked because of more high exposure cocksuckers like Ryan but he's probably Faux's Luca Brazzi.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2020 08:16 AM (y7DUB)

143 Dear Hungary,Throw in a Second Amendment and I'll start looking at language lessons and plane tickets.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 20, 2020 08:16 AM (Z7Jj3)

144 The thing is TuCa and Hannity are not stupid. They know that if the Dems win the steal that is it for the republic, done and gone. But they are not just at Fox to earn a paycheck to support their families... they are high profile advocates supporting the party line. They are complicit in the attempted overthrow of the country.

I don't cut them any slack at all. They have enough fuck you money to walkaway but chose to stay and fight as traitors. Fuck TuCa and fuck Hannity... great American? bullshit!

Posted by: Ward at November 20, 2020 08:16 AM (mSTT+)

145 140 Hungary Proposes Amendment to Protect Children's Biological "Sex" and "Christian" Upbringing
___________

What is their immigration policy?

(Just kidding. I hope.)
Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 08:15 AM (7X3UV)


My mother did not want to teach me Hungarian because of her wartime experience. Now it might've come in handy.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 08:16 AM (s2VJv)

146 This is going to be fought in court, and legislatures the only people that need to see evidence at this point are those bodies.

But...


Trumps team needs to supply incontrovertible proof and evidence of systematic fraud and illegal activity that stole the election for Biden.


We're roughly 3.5 weeks from the first milestone date of Dec. 14th when electors need to be chosen.


So buckle up it's going to get bumpy real quick.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 20, 2020 08:16 AM (u/Xy6)

147 "It's not voter fraud, it's election official fraud."

Great comment yesterday by Jenna Ellis.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 20, 2020 08:16 AM (H8QX8)

148 Powell disputed on Baritomo's show this am Tucker's claim that she didn't send them anything. Said the subsequent texts from him were rude and so she cut off communication. Sounds to me like an underling was doing the communicating and that person misrepresented Powell to Tucker. Tucker hounding her for "evidence" tells me he is in with the "litigate this in the court of public opinion" narrative.

Posted by: itsacookbook at November 20, 2020 08:16 AM (yPxXc)

149 Prosecutor: Your honor, today the people will prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Mr. Smith murdered his wife

Defense: The evidence is discredited, I move for dismissal

Judge: I have no choice, the prosecution no longer has evidence. Case dismissed.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2020 08:16 AM (5myV4)

150 "Trump's lawyers should put all their evidence on the table and try their case in the public square."

This is probably the dumbest fucking legal advice I've ever heard.

Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at November 20, 2020 08:17 AM (lRrON)

151 143 Dear Hungary,Throw in a Second Amendment and I'll start looking at language lessons and plane tickets.
Posted by: NR Pax at November 20, 2020 08:16 AM (Z7Jj3)


Arguably one of the hardest languages on the planet. But just say "basz mag" and crack a Berlitz book.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 08:17 AM (s2VJv)

152 60 The banks handle a gazillion transactions a day with very few errors. You would think handling an election would be easy compared to that.
Posted by: f'd at November 20, 2020 07:50

I disagree. I send out many things via cert mail.
Posted by: Infidel
Private enterprise versus government shxtshow? Seems it has more to do with who is programming/handling the machines, than the machines themselves?

Posted by: MikeM at November 20, 2020 08:18 AM (OqsNP)

153 >>Jewish Group Blasts CNN

Good for them--strength to their hand. Amanpour is trash.

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 08:18 AM (xK9An)

154
Can I talk about Scott Adams for a sec ?

I like listening to him during am workouts (what else is there)

He basically single handedly got us overstocked on ventilators by blowing his load every day for a week or two (and he knows it) ... which is fine. To each their own.

But it betrays deep seated survival concerns beyond which he proclaims to portray.

That's all I'm gonna say.

Atm

Posted by: Love ya still scott at November 20, 2020 08:18 AM (sRR1j)

155 "Remote schooling is taking a toll on kids everywhere, but especially those in vulnerable domestic situations."
The Child-Neglect Pandemic
_________

I flat out disbelieve the underlying premise that kids are better off, and particularly safer, in school than at home. Riley comes across (not for the first time) as fundamentally a Deweyit. So fuck that.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 08:18 AM (7X3UV)

156 Great newspaper today. Just fantastic links. Deep in 'em.

Tucker works for Fox and they just upped his pay, apparently by a lot (given how giddy he looked). My suggestion is Just Do Not Watch. he will break your heart.

I too love Bartiromo, and I think she is the best interviewer and hard news reporter Fox has, but since I'm done with Fox I'll just have to do without.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at November 20, 2020 08:18 AM (N17yv)

157 Am I the only one who thinks Ossoff is getting paid to tank? Sorry, I just can't take this shit today.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 20, 2020 08:18 AM (7Fj9P)

158 Powell isn't trying her case in the court of Tucker Carlson. He ought to be astute enough to understand that.

The seditious leftist press has gone all-in to discredit the president's lawyers' efforts to defend his constitutional rights. These people have to be beaten on the field of battle to within an inch of their miserable lives. No one should ever be allowed to forget how this election was stolen and how the theft was covered up.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at November 20, 2020 08:19 AM (XYHTz)

159 MikeM, I was wrong. Read that as PO not bank. See above.

Posted by: Infidel at November 20, 2020 08:19 AM (QoPXA)

160 Madeleine Halfbright is appalled.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 20, 2020 08:19 AM (GHLVi)

161 If you sign anything under duress, the contract is not valid. The MI SoS is a liar.
Want to bet the MI SoS has financial ties to Soros, China, an Intel agency, or some other foreign or bad actor.

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 20, 2020 08:19 AM (jvld5)

162 I'm finally watching the presser held by Trump's legal team.

Chanel Rion asked Giuliani where the FBI has been on this matter. He laughed and asked where they've been for the last three years.

These journalists feel no shame when Rudy asks why they themselves haven't been uncovering all this evidence, and why they show no curiosity.

Posted by: All Hail President Eris, Benevolent Dictatrix at November 20, 2020 08:19 AM (Dc2NZ)

163 Trump's team needs to give incontrovertible evidence to the COURT and the court only.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 20, 2020 08:19 AM (kszLT)

164 By the way JJ I enjoyed that article on the Tejanos. I know very little about TX.

Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2020 08:20 AM (9UmRs)

165 True that Sidney was on all the talk shows but what Tucker wanted from her was the court case presented to him with a pretty bow. F him. Save that for court. I was not happy with Tucker's programming this week at all and that stupid new "standing up for what's right" makes me puke. Is it a jab or a peace sign? Who knows.
Posted by: Jaimo at November 20, 2020 07:59 AM (/Kt3K)


And what they said at the news conference is that if they had to be careful with what they discussed.

It can contaminate the jury pool. Yes.

You don't show your hand.
You don't give the enemy ammo.
If there are juries formed, there will be plenty of liars and frauds trying to get on that jury.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 08:20 AM (sfhL4)

166 157 Am I the only one who thinks Ossoff is getting paid to tank? Sorry, I just can't take this shit today.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 20, 2020 08:18 AM (7Fj9P)


I would like to hear your thoughts on this considering if the Democrats can take the Senate, especially if they get away with the White House, it's lights out America for good.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 08:20 AM (s2VJv)

167 MikeM, I was wrong. Read that as PO not bank. See above.
Posted by: Infidel
Yup, saw your coffee comment after I posted

Posted by: MikeM at November 20, 2020 08:20 AM (OqsNP)

168 140 - Eeyore

Don't laugh, I've seen YT vids of Germans who've decided that they'd rather live in Russia...a Christian country interested in protecting it's citizens (for all of it's other faults aside) rather than Merkelstan.

We live in strange times indeed...

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 20, 2020 08:20 AM (W+kMI)

169 Excellent JJ as usual. *fistbump**

My observation exactly of Sidney. Righteous outrage. Her voice cracked a couple of times and she steeled herself and went on. Tough. Brilliant. And nice jacket btw.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2020 08:20 AM (7Y5nA)

170 Tucker works for Fox and they just upped his pay, apparently by a lot (given how giddy he looked). My suggestion is Just Do Not Watch. he will break your heart.
====================
Yes to all that. But isn't he independently wealthy in his own right? Heir to Birdseye fortune or something.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 20, 2020 08:20 AM (7Fj9P)

171 Go for it, Sidney!!!!!!!!!

We need to have GOP rallies all over this country!!!!!

Posted by: JD at November 20, 2020 08:20 AM (+fjIe)

172 Anyone care to book a bet that journalists are now spending 100 x more man hours investigating the "background" of Sidney Powell than the evidence she brought out on Dominion software?

Posted by: Zek at November 20, 2020 08:21 AM (r4fw8)

173 And Michael Chertoff the Jerkoff is disappointed in us, too.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 20, 2020 08:21 AM (GHLVi)

174 Posted by: Count de Monet at November 20, 2020 08:00 AM (4I/2K)

Just fired off my letter to the "NY Post" urging Trump not to concede. I usually have a letter in there every three- four months or so, so they might publish again since I'm a regular. We'll see.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2020 08:21 AM (WkPC9)

175 If Powell puts all of her evidence on the table it gives time for the 1 million blue check mafia to discredit, obfuscate, and lie to confuse the truth. Most of these state legislators are not professional politicians and are more easily swayed by public opinion poisoned by the left.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2020 08:22 AM (5myV4)

176 168 140 - Eeyore

Don't laugh, I've seen YT vids of Germans who've decided that they'd rather live in Russia...a Christian country interested in protecting it's citizens (for all of it's other faults aside) rather than Merkelstan.

We live in strange times indeed...
Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 20, 2020 08:20 AM (W+kMI)


There is or at least used to be a sizable ethnic German population in Russia or the Ukraine. I think Stalin wiped them out in the 30s.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 08:22 AM (s2VJv)

177 I just want to say, for the record, fuck Tucker Carlson. That bow-tie wearing, silver spoon sucking sissy boy was never really on our side. The Z-Man blog had it right on him a long time ago.

Posted by: Wicklow at November 20, 2020 08:22 AM (uH65w)

178 >>164 By the way JJ I enjoyed that article on the Tejanos. I know very little about TX.
Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2020 08:20 AM (9UmRs)

If you have the time and inclination, I can heartily recommend Robert Caro's retelling of the 1948 Senate election in Texas. LBJ won, but as Caro thoroughly explains, it was through a crooked intimidation in S. Texas. The whole LBJ bio is superb, but that 1948 chapter is fascinating. I think it's in the second volume (of four).

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 08:23 AM (xK9An)

179 "Leaders in both the private and public sectors must make data privacy a priority."
Data Privacy Can Longer Be an Afterthought for Businesses or Government
___________

Absolutely. We really need to outlaw Zuckerberg's entire business model. Just forbid it.

A few years ago, Andrew Klavan ran a tape of a series of Zuck's replies - going back to his college days - when he was caught violating users' privacy. And every single one sounded exactly like the previous one. It never answered the question, beside the same boilerplate. Of course, since it's an android, and not a human being, there's no surprise that it always runs the same algorithm.

But that's no reason to put up with this.

(OTOH, I do not understand what Twitter's model is.)

Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 08:23 AM (7X3UV)

180 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 08:24 AM (Zz0t1)

181 And Michael Chertoff the Jerkoff is disappointed in us, too.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 20, 2020 08:21 AM (GHLVi)


That's my life's oeuvre, disappointing people.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 20, 2020 08:24 AM (4I/2K)

182 These journalists feel no shame when Rudy asks why they themselves haven't been uncovering all this evidence, and why they show no curiosity.
Posted by: All Hail President Eris, Benevolent Dictatrix at November 20, 2020 08:19 AM (Dc2NZ)

They're pod people.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 20, 2020 08:24 AM (H8QX8)

183 If there are juries formed, there will be plenty of liars and frauds trying to get on that jury.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 08:20 AM (sfhL4)

....and imho they were sending a warning shot. 'We have the case and if you were involved come forward now and give us your statement.'

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2020 08:24 AM (7Y5nA)

184 I am so use to be disappointed with waiting for "2 weeks" for 3.5 freakin years and nothing ever comes to fruition that I am becoming really cynical.

Sidney has such a great reputation and I want to believe, but I don't know. She can't just have someone saying the voting machines can be hacked and votes manipulated. She has to have actual proof from someone saying they helped to change votes etc. to backup what she is alleging or this is going nowhere.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2020 08:24 AM (NpAcC)

185
Mark Zuckerberg looks like a homosexual sex robot.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 08:24 AM (s2VJv)

186 figures, i finally get in early i the morning thread and work interrupts me. now i'm so far behind i might catch up about the time the Ape shows up...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2020 08:24 AM (8D42x)

187 J.J.

I agree with you, but no matter how many people voted or believe what happened, what do you truly believe the outcome is going to be here? I pray that regardless of what Party you are for, the right thing is done with this election, because the most important aspect of that press conference was their assertion that at the end of the day this wasn't about one man, but about the integrity of the system as a whole. At this point, I believe one Party could give two shits about the integrity of the system.

Posted by: stourma at November 20, 2020 08:24 AM (bbYBJ)

188 This is actually amazing. And when you realize these cost differences, then the SpaceX fleet of 8 Dragons starts to look awesome for America and the world. Glenn Reynolds says,

To launch a kilogram to orbit on the Space Shuttle cost almost $55,000.
To do the same thing on SpaceX's Falcon 9 costs a mere $2,700, roughly
one-20th as much. Musk is promising that it will be a mere $200 on his
next craft, the Starship.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at November 20, 2020 08:24 AM (N17yv)

189 Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2020 08:16 AM (y7DUB)

Isn't Luca Brazzi the guy who was stabbed in the hand?

Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2020 08:25 AM (9UmRs)

190 184 I am so use to be disappointed with waiting for "2 weeks" for 3.5 freakin years and nothing ever comes to fruition that I am becoming really cynical.

Sidney has such a great reputation and I want to believe, but I don't know. She can't just have someone saying the voting machines can be hacked and votes manipulated. She has to have actual proof from someone saying they helped to change votes etc. to backup what she is alleging or this is going nowhere.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2020 08:24 AM (NpAcC)


Bro, she is not going to lay out the actual evidence at a press conference! It will be at the trial.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 08:25 AM (s2VJv)

191 >>185 Mark Zuckerberg looks like a homosexual sex robot. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 08:24 AM (s2VJv)

That is spot-on. Bravo.

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 08:26 AM (xK9An)

192 I would like to hear your thoughts on this considering if the Democrats can take the Senate, especially if they get away with the White House, it's lights out America for good.
========================
I know. Think of the leverage we are trying to push against: Big Tech, MSM, CCP and other foreign actors. I'm amazed we've made it this far. And Ossoff only needs to be "gotten to" by one of those entities. Even if he's not complicit, what's stopping "Them" from stealing GA?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 20, 2020 08:26 AM (7Fj9P)

193 Multiple times Rudy said he could prove Trump won without using any of the evidence about the phony vote counting machines.

Rudy said:
Trump won PA by over 300k.
Trump won MI by over 50k.
There are over 60k ballots in Milwaukee alone that have to be thrown out because, under the WI constitution(?), every absentee ballot must be requested and, if there is no record of the voter request, it must be discarded.

Posted by: RoyalOil at November 20, 2020 08:26 AM (aO8Gd)

194 185
Mark Zuckerberg looks like a homosexual sex robot.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 08:24 AM (s2VJv)

At best.

Posted by: Kwai Chang Mandelblit at November 20, 2020 08:26 AM (o+znz)

195 184 I am so use to be disappointed with waiting for "2 weeks" for 3.5 freakin years and nothing ever comes to fruition that I am becoming really cynical.

Sidney has such a great reputation and I want to believe, but I don't know. She can't just have someone saying the voting machines can be hacked and votes manipulated. She has to have actual proof from someone saying they helped to change votes etc. to backup what she is alleging or this is going nowhere.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2020 08:24 AM (NpAcC)

The "young Venezuelan military officer" she's going to have testify is a starter.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 20, 2020 08:26 AM (Zm+LZ)

196 Don't laugh, I've seen YT vids of Germans who've decided that they'd rather live in Russia...a Christian country interested in protecting it's citizens (for all of it's other faults aside) rather than Merkelstan.

We live in strange times indeed...
Posted by: CPT. Charles

The late great anti-commie Bishop Fulton Sheen said back in the 60's that once Russia emerged from its socialist stupor that he believed Russia would save civilization and Christianity, that the russian had the passion, fire..the zeal..to get the job done.
That prediction may very well come to fruition

Posted by: THE Lonebadger at November 20, 2020 08:26 AM (vYL7p)

197 73
Today's letters to the" NY Post are all urging Trump to concede the
election. This must be the big talking point: Trump must concede to
"save our democracy". Most of the letters are from people from
Manhattan including Kreg Ramone, who regularly writes to say how awful
Trump is, but one is from someone in Ohio, so if you want to write to
the "NY Post" saying that you think Trump should not concede, and that
rigged elections will destroy our democracy e-mail to:



letters@nypost.com

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2020 07:54 AM (WkPC9)
*******This 'it's time to give up everyone' is clearly going to be the narrative the next couple of days.It was a little dispiriting reading the comments to Peggy Noonan's Thursday night column in the Wall Street Journal (I can't stand her ... but I always just love to read the comments that beat the shit out of her for her pomposity and arrogance). Last night's comments were different though ... tons of 'it's time for Trump to give up' bullsh*t.
If you believe the election was stolen (and I do), this is no time to throw in the towel because everyone on TV is saying that's the right thing to do. Grow a pair. Be a Patriot. Fight for what's clearly right.

Posted by: Forheremenaremen at November 20, 2020 08:26 AM (pmRSz)

198

biden is 78 years old today

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 20, 2020 08:26 AM (dgQqG)

199 ...and by GA, I mean the Senate races.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 20, 2020 08:26 AM (7Fj9P)

200 Fraud vitiates everything

Posted by: McCool at November 20, 2020 08:26 AM (0GdRL)

201 James White has video of a German scientist doing a livestream criticizing their virus policies. A swat team busts into his house, takes him to the ground and arrests him. All live.

Posted by: Tommyboy at November 20, 2020 08:27 AM (HU93f)

202 >>Isn't Luca Brazzi the guy who was stabbed in the hand? Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2020 08:25 AM (9UmRs)

Yes. And the guy who played Virgil Sollozzo is now NY's governor.

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 08:27 AM (xK9An)

203 Just fired off my letter to the "NY Post" urging
Trump not to concede. I usually have a letter in there every three- four
months or so, so they might publish again since I'm a regular. We'll
see.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2020 08:21 AM (WkPC9)

So glad you are among us. Fen is a righteous warrior.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 20, 2020 08:27 AM (4I/2K)

204 JJ, I just heard that one TSA Employee has died with the coronavirus in the last year. One
Posted by: Undercover Brother is the third monkey at November 20, 2020 07:37 AM (f4uba)

---------

And I was stunned to learn that only 2 Californians under age 18 have died of WuFlu. Out of almost 40 million Californians.

Posted by: JM in Florida - I search w DuckDuckGo at November 20, 2020 08:27 AM (rOYkz)

205 71

We wanted to go to the Moon.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 07:50 AM (ZfRYq)

Pfft! Aim bigger and steal it.

Posted by: Gru at November 20, 2020 07:53 AM

Oh yeaaaah!

Posted by: Vector at November 20, 2020 08:28 AM (Do5/p)

206 To launch a kilogram to orbit on the Space Shuttle cost almost $55,000.
To do the same thing on SpaceX's Falcon 9 costs a mere $2,700, roughly
one-20th as much.


And that's why government sucks, in a nutshell.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 20, 2020 08:28 AM (6XLoz)

207 If Powell puts all of her evidence on the table it gives time for the 1 million blue check mafia to discredit, obfuscate, and lie to confuse the truth. Most of these state legislators are not professional politicians and are more easily swayed by public opinion poisoned by the left.
----------------------------------

That is exactly what I was thinking even before Tucker requested she come on his show.

Posted by: DC at November 20, 2020 08:28 AM (onMzM)

208 Switched to duck duck go. Nice job!

Posted by: vivi at November 20, 2020 08:28 AM (USW1s)

209 187 Posted by: stourma at November 20, 2020 08:24 AM (bbYBJ)


I don't know what the outcome will be. I'm not so blind as to see that the redress is going to be incredibly difficult. I have been saying this now for over two weeks.

I am saying to have faith in Trump and his team that they will fight with all they have, and pray it is enough for those who will judge this to do the right thing.

More than that, I can't tell you.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 08:28 AM (s2VJv)

210 Did I read correctly that for the Wisconsin 'recount' .... there are going to be something like 170 observers, and only 15 are Republicans?
Is that correct?
Then once again, the fix is in.

Posted by: Forheremenaremen at November 20, 2020 08:28 AM (pmRSz)

211 196 Bishop Sheen's tv programs are available on YouTube.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 20, 2020 08:28 AM (I58tH)

212 Powell was on Maria Bartiromo's show just a bit ago and said that she did give them some info/evidence to run with but didn't go further because they were so rude. When they kept pestering her, she finally told them to bug off.
Posted by: IrishEi at November 20, 2020 08:06 AM (sGotD)


this is exactly what I imagined happen
thanks for clarifying it

she told him to stop texting her, that is not the same as I won't talk to you

baby

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 08:28 AM (sfhL4)

213 Ossoff is a nobody. He was propelled to Dem stardom by being in the right place (kind of) at the right time.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2020 08:28 AM (5myV4)

214 >>201 James White has video of a German scientist doing a livestream criticizing their virus policies. A swat team busts into his house, takes him to the ground and arrests him. All live. Posted by: Tommyboy at November 20, 2020 08:27 AM (HU93f)

He has a date with O'Brien in Room 101.

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 08:29 AM (xK9An)

215 135 Powell: Here is all of my evidence of fraud in 10,000 printed pages.

Dems: The evidence has been discredited.

Powell: Damn, there goes my case!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2020 08:14 AM (5myV4)

There is no evidence. Affidavits aren't evidence. Basic math and recorded observations aren't evidence. Breaking the rules and the law isn't evidence. Mocking and name calling is evidence.
Instead, I'll explain the definition of a legal word along with explaining The Word, which only I and The Lincoln Project understands. Repent sinners, live like a monk, send us your money, stop worshipping the false idol of politics (that is my job and how I make my money).


Posted by: Erick Erickson at November 20, 2020 08:29 AM (jvld5)

216 biden is 78 years old today
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 20, 2020 08:26 AM (dgQqG)


YOU SHIT MY PANTS!!

*blows out candles*

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 20, 2020 08:29 AM (GHLVi)

217 211 196 Bishop Sheen's tv programs are available on YouTube.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 20, 2020 08:28 AM (I58tH)


Canonical "Winning!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 08:29 AM (s2VJv)

218 My gracious hosts have MSNBC on a lot and listen to NPR. It is taking a supreme effort of will to keep from smashing things with those sources on. I gotta get outta there quick or I will lose it, but the process grinds slow.

Posted by: Brother Tim (can't let go of 10 year old memes) at November 20, 2020 08:29 AM (OUMaO)

219 Just fired off my letter to the "NY Post" urging Trump not to concede. I usually have a letter in there every three- four months or so, so they might publish again since I'm a regular. We'll see.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2020 08:21 AM (WkPC9)

Excellent Fen. Today more letters and calls to our county commissioners and legislators here in AZ to allow an audit of votes and machines. There is bad mojo here with Federal Ballots where people who cannot prove citizenship can vote.. Yep, you heard that right.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2020 08:29 AM (7Y5nA)

220 Just as an aside, a neighbor was talking last night about ammo and firearm availability.

He was shocked when I told him that I was currently seeing .22 being offered at $34.99 for a box of 50 rounds. Oh, plus shipping costs.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 20, 2020 08:30 AM (3D/fK)

221
After a half-ass "recount," biden's fake vote lead DROPS by 10% and Fake News pretends it's not significant, and they're calling it an AUDIT.

Biden lost over 1300 votes. (Or President Trump gained 1300, however you want to look at it.)

If they did a real audit, biden would lose hundred of thousands of fake votes!

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 20, 2020 08:30 AM (dgQqG)

222 Someone asked about the Crowder data was it real. I just ran a report from Wayne County

Here is an example:

City of Detroit, AVCB 110
Election Day
0
0
0
0
0
0
AV Counting Board
0
0
0
0 216
0
Total
0
0
0
0 216
0

0 registered 0 mail in votes

But 216 votes tabulated

And the Results:

City of Detroit, AVCB 110
Election Day
0
0
AV Counting Board 201 15
Total 201 Biden 15 PDT

201/216=93% Thats Sadam levels there!

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 20, 2020 08:30 AM (JFO2v)

223 "Trump's lawyers should put all their evidence on the table and try their case in the public square."

@@@

It's troll talking point with idiots helping.

Posted by: Piratepatch at November 20, 2020 08:30 AM (2Xrky)

224 Go Fen !!

Posted by: McCool at November 20, 2020 08:30 AM (0GdRL)

225 Want to bet the MI SoS has financial ties to Soros, China, an Intel agency, or some other foreign or bad actor.
Posted by: bat nationalist at November 20, 2020 08:19 AM (jvld5)

Benson was elected via Soros. She is also a former SPLC liar errrrrrrr lawyer.

Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2020 08:31 AM (9UmRs)

226 Biden's pick for chief of staff once touted a gun control program for mandatory buybacks.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2020 08:31 AM (NpAcC)

227 210 - Forheremenaremen

Where Dem's are concerned, the Rule Book is in pencil, and they hold the only eraser.

And no, you can't see what's written in in it you filthy little hobbit.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 20, 2020 08:31 AM (W+kMI)

228 185
Mark Zuckerberg looks like a homosexual sex robot.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 08:24 AM (s2VJv)

I get more of a "Reptillian" vibe from him, but there is the power of "And".

Posted by: Carpe Manana at November 20, 2020 08:32 AM (PbH71)

229 The "young Venezuelan military officer" she's going to have testify is a starter.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 20, 2020 08:26 AM (Zm+LZ)

Good. Testimony surviving a cross exam is more powerful than an affidavit.

Posted by: JM in Florida - I search w DuckDuckGo at November 20, 2020 08:32 AM (rOYkz)

230 mandatory buybacks.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2020 08:31 AM (NpAcC)

Do they use guns to get your to sell BACK you guns?

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 20, 2020 08:32 AM (JFO2v)

231 I knew Attorney Powell was serious when she switched her hairstyle from the "Daphne" to the "Velma".

Posted by: rusty shakleford at November 20, 2020 08:32 AM (yo76Z)

232 "I already canceled Thanksgiving and Christmas with my 91-year-old mother because I DON'T WANT TO KILL HER," left-wing pundit John Aravosis declared on Twitter.

*********

...besides, she smells funny." he added.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 20, 2020 08:32 AM (m45I2)

233 She's Not Alone, She's Got a Warm Bed and Caring Attendants - a limerick

Cancel Thanksgiving on grandmama's behalf!?
To listen to such nonsense is to laugh
She'll spend it COVID-free
In a puddle of her pee
Attended to by Meth-resistant staph

Posted by: Muldoon at November 20, 2020 08:32 AM (m45I2)

234 226 Biden's pick for chief of staff once touted a gun control program for mandatory buybacks.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2020 08:31 AM (NpAcC)

He'll never be chief of staff just as Biden will never be president.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 20, 2020 08:33 AM (H8QX8)

235 207 If Powell puts all of her evidence on the table it gives time for the 1 million blue check mafia to discredit, obfuscate, and lie to confuse the truth. Most of these state legislators are not professional politicians and are more easily swayed by public opinion poisoned by the left.


as I mentioned yesterday, Tucker tends to give the President HORRENDOUSLY poor advice, and in a very hectoring fashion, which is unbecoming.

would not play well at the Club, Tuck.

but in the interest of assuming he is not some sort of Judas goat, I presume that his attitude is due to his elevated upbringing - with no real negative externalities ever for him to deal with throughout his gilded lifetime - not even, say, having to own up to judgment errors that cost friends and employees their jobs and livelihoods, which even billionaire businessman Donald J Trump HAS had to face.

I myself grew up in a very wealthy household and went to very good schools. I know how it is, I know what I was like before Everything Changed. and for me, my wealthy father decided he needed a new wife and family and ditched us - I had to immediately start working myself to hold things somewhat together and pay for my mother's lawyers - while I was an undergrad. my world completely fell apart and I learned a HELL of a lot.

so I know the value of thinking twice, and the value of prudence, and of looking past your own nose.

these are things Tucker is not terribly good at. that's if he's on the up and up. which .. I mean who knows. he can learn tho. I certainly did.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 20, 2020 08:33 AM (j9HX3)

236 196 Bishop Sheen's tv programs are available on YouTube.
Posted by: bill in arkansas

And they are inspired and brilliant. His talks on communism are a MUST WATCH.
He likens communism to vultures feeding on the carcasses of dead or dying nations. Like a great cleansing fire or decimation, to bring man closer to God.

Posted by: THE Lonebadger at November 20, 2020 08:33 AM (vYL7p)

237
Ahem, twitter model is classified as a venture/bubble.

No fruit.

WHATS REALLY SCARY ??? Is

It cannot be turned off -- too many gov types rely on it -- it literally cannot be turned off now which is rather scary.

The politicians would go cookoo for Cocoa Puffs if it went away.... because ... that's how they run government now..:

Is it over? I mean, all but the tombstone.
But I'm still here and I want a tombstone too

Posted by: HEY HEY at November 20, 2020 08:33 AM (sRR1j)

238 biden is 78 years old today

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 20, 2020 08:26 AM (dgQqG)





YOU SHIT MY PANTS!!



*blows out candles*

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 20, 2020 08:29 AM (GHLVi)


Can't stop laughing.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 20, 2020 08:33 AM (4I/2K)

239 That was me that posted it this morning, Crowder's video. Someone else posted it before me, I forget who. I am extremely skeptical that the MI SoS thinks she can get away with 173,000 ballots from unregistered voters, but then I watched the video. Is Crowder reliable? Below is the video

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y3aa7a5b
Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2020 08:02 AM (9UmRs)


Thanks

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 08:33 AM (sfhL4)

240
mandatory buybacks

Um, there's another word for this. I can't remember it...

starts with a "C."

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 20, 2020 08:33 AM (dgQqG)

241 231 I knew Attorney Powell was serious when she switched her hairstyle from the "Daphne" to the "Velma".
Posted by: rusty shakleford at November 20, 2020 08:32 AM (yo76Z)


I actually found Velma somewhat alluring.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 08:33 AM (s2VJv)

242 Sidney has such a great reputation and I want to believe, but I don't know. She can't just have someone saying the voting machines can be hacked and votes manipulated. She has to have actual proof from someone saying they helped to change votes etc. to backup what she is alleging or this is going nowhere.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2020 08:24 AM (NpAcC)


Bro, she is not going to lay out the actual evidence at a press conference! It will be at the trial.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 08:25 AM (s2VJv)

What trial? When? Before or after Sundown is sworn it?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2020 08:33 AM (tsZQ+)

243 Who did Biden pick as Chief of Staff? I figured he'd go with Jarrett and give her a third term...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 08:34 AM (hYcqw)

244 242
What trial? When? Before or after Sundown is sworn it?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2020 08:33 AM (tsZQ+)


Oy, you too?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 08:34 AM (s2VJv)

245 Tucker Carlson PROVES without a doubt that the media is the ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE.

Period.

That press conference contained all the information you need to see that the anti-American, communist Democrats used Putin, Sadam, Chavez level tactics to rig the US election and he thinks they showed no evidence.

Fuck You, Tucker. #WAR

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 08:34 AM (Zz0t1)

246 Um, there's another word for this. I can't remember it...

starts with a "C."
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 20, 2020 08:33 AM (dgQqG)
+++++++++
Does it end with "untish behavior?"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 08:35 AM (hYcqw)

247 Tucker Carlson is like way too many. He values his paycheck way more than he values freedom and country.

Posted by: Justsayin' at November 20, 2020 08:35 AM (Fs5vw)

248 At this point, I believe one Party could give two shits about the integrity of the system.

I'm not convinced either party does. It's down to a few individuals trying to drag one party back to sanity while another handful drag the other down to madness.

Posted by: Brother Tim (can't let go of 10 year old memes) at November 20, 2020 08:35 AM (OUMaO)

249 Mark Zuckerberg looks like a homosexual sex robot.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 08:24 AM (s2VJv)

I get more of a "Reptillian" vibe from him, but there is the power of "And".
Posted by: Carpe Manana at November 20, 2020 08:32 AM (PbH71)


How do we know that he didn't die from CoViD and we are seeing a prototype AI borg fashioned in his image?

I think this is a rumor that is worth spreading.

Posted by: President Elect 🐧 at November 20, 2020 08:35 AM (C+evo)

250 Who did Biden pick as Chief of Staff? I figured he'd go with Jarrett and give her a third term...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 08:34 AM (hYcqw)

A guy named Ron Klain, an old sundown hanger on

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2020 08:35 AM (tsZQ+)

251 I knew Attorney Powell was serious when she switched her hairstyle from the "Daphne" to the "Velma".


And I'd have gotten away with it, too, if not for you pesky kids...

Posted by: Old Man Biden at November 20, 2020 08:35 AM (oVJmc)

252 Hey, all the homeless that were gonna die from the Wu-flu....


Whee they hiding the bodies at?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 20, 2020 08:35 AM (3D/fK)

253
Confiscation!!

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 20, 2020 08:36 AM (dgQqG)

254 @204

Well we destroyed our economy and are on the cusp of installing marxist's over a virus that has allegedly killed 0.07706 pct of the US population.

Continuing the op over the death of 0.00001 pct of 18 and unders is no skin off the Deep States nose.


It's all statistical noise and part of the ongoing op at this point.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 20, 2020 08:36 AM (u/Xy6)

255 Great Wayne Root link, JJ:

Why would Fox News be in such a rush to call Arizona for Biden? At that moment, Trump's odds crashed almost instantly from 8 to 1, back down to 2 to 1. That drop set off alarm bells. . .

It was as if someone had decided in advance to give Arizona to Biden - whether he won it, or not. It was as if the secret code was known to only a few billionaire gamblers, "Fox News awards Arizona to Biden." Six magic words. Someone was ready for that call. Someone waited until Trump was a prohibitive 8 to 1 favorite, then knew to bet millions of dollars on Biden at the longest odds of the night. Someone knew the fix was in. Someone made a fortune. . .

One more piece of the puzzle. From almost the moment that secret code "Fox News awards Arizona to Biden" was spoken, three key Midwest battleground states with Democrat Governors all decided to stop counting votes for the night, with Trump way ahead. Why? Why all three, at the same time? Like they were coordinated in advance. Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania all mysteriously quit counting around midnight. . .

They knew Arizona was going to be called way too early. They knew that fake Arizona call would trigger vote counting to stop and massive ballot fraud to begin.

I don't know what the Supreme Court will decide. But bettors all over the world know in our guts exactly what happened. The fix was in, no different than that famous NY Giants-Philadelphia Eagle fix in 1978 at the Meadowlands.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 08:36 AM (bDqIh)

256 I hope that when President Trump has WON this, the clowns at MSN (opening webpage here at work) are on the list to be SUED big time. Headline - Trump Attempt to Overturn Election Unparalleled.

This is really pissing me off - what is a good browser I can make default?

Posted by: Rosasharn at November 20, 2020 08:36 AM (yEBFM)

257 What trial? When? Before or after Sundown is sworn it?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2020 08:33 AM (tsZQ+)


Oy, you too?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 08:34 AM (s2VJv)

No I am serious here? What is the point here? To invalidate the election because of fraud right? That has to happen now, not in 6 months to 4 years

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2020 08:36 AM (tsZQ+)

258 Sidney has such a great reputation and I want to believe, but I don't know. She can't just have someone saying the voting machines can be hacked and votes manipulated. She has to have actual proof from someone saying they helped to change votes etc. to backup what she is alleging or this is going nowhere.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2020 08:24 AM (NpAcC)


Not to throw cold water but the outcome of this will be career defining for Sidney. I've read her book and a few items stood out. First, although most of the Arthur Anderson cases that Weissmann railroaded got unanimously reversed by the Supreme Court, for whatever reason her client wasn't part of that and a judgement by a lower black robed tyrant stood unchanged. Second, in her book she gave waaaaaay too much credit for how Emmett Sullivan handled the Ted Stevens case and got blindsided when defending Flynn at just how corrupt he is.

I might be judging her too harshly by bringing those up because obviously Levin respects her a great deal and he's more knowledgeable than me by far. But she isn't perfect.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 20, 2020 08:36 AM (y7DUB)

259 Posted by: HEY HEY at November 20, 2020 08:33 AM (sRR1j)

Which is why before Christmas would be a perfect time to use the internet kill switch for a week or 2. Round up all the insurrectionists, terrorists, and traitors, then turn it back on.

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 20, 2020 08:37 AM (jvld5)

260 Posted by: McCool at November 20, 2020 08:30 AM (0GdRL)

Thanks for the support, McCool!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2020 08:37 AM (WkPC9)

261 Arizona done counting yet?

Posted by: Comrade dude in MI at November 20, 2020 08:37 AM (/6GbT)

262 I didn't watch that presser yesterday in real time because of work, but I did watch all 90ish minutes of it before bed. Two major observations:
- They said they can prove outcome-changing fraud even without the potential sinkhole of corruption at Dominion and Smartmatic, which is a *very* good thing since getting to the bottom of that will likely take a year or two and could end in death sentences - but we don't have time for that.
- I have never seen a group of lawyers - all of them - more furious in my life. That kind of rage is probably deleterious to their health. I don't blame them, but it was borderline scary how angry they are, especially Powel. Ellis was more aggressive and so was Giuliani, but Powel had a much harder edge.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 08:37 AM (hYcqw)

263 Someone asked about the Crowder data was it real.

No. He's lying. Just like everyone else. Trump is a dictator. He's trying to implant himself in the White House for ever.

GOOD GRAVY some people are just fucking IMPOSSIBLE.

THE FACTS ARE OUT THERE. LOOK AT THEM.

KNOW THEY'RE FACTS.

God, SMOD or God brought SMOD, I don't care which.

End this fucking thing......we've ruined it.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 08:38 AM (Zz0t1)

264 IMO, none of these cases will reach a court room for months, if ever. Instead, Rudy and Sidney have pinned their hopes on the only possible saving grace for America and that is state legislatures in Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, and even PA. I believe these are all Republican controlled state legislatures, and a few also have GOP governors. If those legislatures can be persuaded (politically) to support Trump, that'll throw the election to Congress, where we win.


Trump needs a groundswell, which he is getting. But he also needs the press to be slightly honest, which he is not getting. FNC is the ultimate traitor here. It is the most despicable act they are doing. I hope that network dies and they are all unemployed forever more.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at November 20, 2020 08:38 AM (N17yv)

265 Thanks J.J., I do appreciate all that you do here at the HQ. I'm just a bit down at the moment after a discussion with my son yesterday. Having to wear a mask at work for 10+ hours a day is getting to him and he just wants things to get back to normal.

My faith remains strong and regardless of the outcome, His will be done, because at the end of the day, we don't know what His plan is, but the way things are looking, there's a section at the end of the good book that pretty much lays things out.

Posted by: stourma at November 20, 2020 08:38 AM (bbYBJ)

266 This should not even need a trial ... if we had a real FBI, there would have been 100s of arrests made, ballots secured, software corruption exposed ... "Trumps Wins in Landslide" headlines.


Sidney doesn't know if the good guys or bad guys got the servers (or other devices/evidence) in Frankfurt. Whoever was listening in on Gohmert/Trump ... did they decide to be "proactive" and gather the evidence? There are a couple sources claiming (that they have sources) saying that the good guys did it, and Haspel/Wray were kept out so they could not subvert the effort.


That makes some sense to me, from other sources saying there are "white hats in the Mist". Also Cash Patel replaced Esper at that time, so maybe there is hope. (and some other key security guy was fired). imo we really need the intel community to move toward our side, not keep being run from the top by the coup plotters. But whether Barr/Durham are on the status quo DeepState team or not is still to be decided.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 20, 2020 08:38 AM (Cus5s)

267 @257

It really has to happen before Dec. 14th.


State electors start casting their ballots on that date.


So if Trump is going to prevail a lot of shit needs to get sorted out and put before courts and controlling authorities, like, NOW!

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 20, 2020 08:39 AM (u/Xy6)

268 Thank God we have President Trump and his awesome team for fighting. Pray that they prevail.

Posted by: Kat_man at November 20, 2020 08:39 AM (UfYsr)

269 - I have never seen a group of lawyers - all of them - more furious in my life. That kind of rage is probably deleterious to their health. I don't blame them, but it was borderline scary how angry they are, especially Powel. Ellis was more aggressive and so was Giuliani, but Powel had a much harder edge.


I agree and that stayed with me. You cannot fake that. They have hard evidence of something HUGE.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 20, 2020 08:39 AM (j9HX3)

270 borderline scary how angry they are, especially Powel. Ellis was more aggressive and so was Giuliani, but Powel had a much harder edge.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 08:37 AM (hYcqw)

Good. If not now, when?

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 20, 2020 08:39 AM (H8QX8)

271
No I am serious here? What is the point here? To invalidate the election because of fraud right? That has to happen now, not in 6 months to 4 years
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2020 08:36 AM (tsZQ+)


Al Gore had 37 days to prove his case.

Trump MUST DO IT NOW!!!!!!!11111!!!!!!!

Jesus fucking Christ........

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 08:39 AM (Zz0t1)

272 "Remote schooling is taking a toll on kids everywhere, but especially those in vulnerable domestic situations."
The Child-Neglect Pandemic



millions of people, not kidding, should drive their children to the private schools that are open for Newsome, and all of the other elite kids

they are going to school, even pre-school as if nothing has happened

Drive your kids to the private schools, en masse

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 08:39 AM (sfhL4)

273 Nuke the moon. You gotta nuke something.

Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2020 08:39 AM (Izzlo)

274 Posted by: Muldoon at November 20, 2020 08:32 AM (m45I2


Funny AND twisted! Me likee!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2020 08:39 AM (7Y5nA)

275
Bro, she is not going to lay out the actual evidence at a press conference! It will be at the trial.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 08:25 AM (s2VJv)


They've laid out all the other evidence at press conferences and filed plenty of affidavits alleging fraud that included evidence. Why do that yet hold back Dominion evidence that would break the whole thing open?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 08:39 AM (CQ3Qb)

276 starts with a "C."
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 20, 2020 08:33 AM (dgQqG)

lying sCrunts?

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 20, 2020 08:39 AM (JFO2v)

277 Don't "Californicate" the Rest of America
___________

One policy I think would help would be a much longer delay in when you can vote in a new state. I'd say 10 years; 5 at a minimum. That would hit me hard, as I just moved at the end of August. But then, it wouldn't be the first time I supported a law that would affect my voting - I opposed the switch to 18.

Anyway, until the time period is over, you still vote in your old location. The period would entail SOME of the refugees becoming acclimatized.

Not that I think it's got a snowball's chance in Hell of being adopted. But I like the idea.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 08:40 AM (7X3UV)

278
So if Trump is going to prevail a lot of shit needs to get sorted out and put before courts and controlling authorities, like, NOW!
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 20, 2020 08:39 AM (u/Xy6)


Join his legal team and advise them THEY'RE DOING IT WRONG then.......

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 08:40 AM (Zz0t1)

279 - I have never seen a group of lawyers - all of them - more furious in my life. That kind of rage is probably deleterious to their health. I don't blame them, but it was borderline scary how angry they are, especially Powel. Ellis was more aggressive and so was Giuliani, but Powel had a much harder edge.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 08:37 AM (hYcqw)

Saw this yesterday on twitter:

@JZmirak 16h

I worked with Sidney Powell for almost a year. I know her. Her voice quavering a little at the press conference is indicative that she's absolutely convinced of her charges, and outraged at the threat to our country. God bless her and keep her strong.

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2020 08:40 AM (cF8AT)

280 "Why do that yet hold back Dominion evidence that would break the whole thing open?"

Reading between the lines I'd say that much of their Dominion direct evidence depends on one or two witnesses who are very, very skittish about being Epsteined.

Posted by: Zek at November 20, 2020 08:40 AM (r4fw8)

281 How obvious was the theft? So obvious that nearly a third of Democrats think it was stolen.

https://tinyurl.com/y36ph82r

--

I find this utterly stunning. I don't know if the globalists and the Democrat party (birm) realize it or even care, but people on both sides know what they're attempting to do...to steal this election. Some may very well not care and just want Trump gone regardless of the wreckage of a shell of a carcass it will leave our constitutional republic. But others do care. A great many others.

And to add to that, I will say that anyone who knowingly committed acts to commit voter fraud should be hung for treason. I say that not as a joke, not in hysteria. They should swing, in one way or another.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2020 08:40 AM (O+I8R)

282 273 Nuke the moon. You gotta nuke something.
Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2020 08:39 AM (Izzlo)

All we are saying is give WAR a chance!

Posted by: John fuckface Brennon at November 20, 2020 08:40 AM (JFO2v)

283 It's too late. The country has moved on. No one is going to hear this case--no court, no legislature, nobody. As Whitmer said, Biden is president, the electors will vote as the media instructed, and to do otherwise would be racist.

Posted by: beestang at November 20, 2020 08:41 AM (hCqcJ)

284 I too love Bartiromo, and I think she is the best interviewer and hard news reporter Fox has, but since I'm done with Fox I'll just have to do without.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at November 20, 2020 08:18 AM (N17yv)


just find a pirated youtube of the show
it works
just don't view one that is broadcast with Fox News attached

find a true off fox copy

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 08:41 AM (sfhL4)

285 256 - Rosasharn

I'd try Vivaldi, or Brave as an alt browser; I have both.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 20, 2020 08:41 AM (W+kMI)

286 You know, if you have a really pleasant dream, and concentrate on it as you fall asleep, sometimes you get a repeat performance. Lately, I've had one. It starts with Beto knocking on my door, saying "Hi Bill, here to pick up those guns". I won't bore you with details, but at the end I'm washing off one of those little Kubota backhoes I've always wanted.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 20, 2020 08:41 AM (I58tH)

287 Excellent commentary-as always, J.J.! Thanks for all your hard work and for all the links.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2020 08:41 AM (WkPC9)

288 Ossoff is a nobody. He was propelled to Dem stardom by being in the right place (kind of) at the right time.
========================
I'm an idiot. I thought he was the R candidate. Changing my nic back to where it belongs.
I need a nap.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin Super Spreader of Bullshit at November 20, 2020 08:41 AM (7Fj9P)

289 185 Mark Zuckerberg looks like a homosexual sex robot.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 08:24 AM (s2VJv)
---

He looks like an asexual sexbot. For when you're invited to a BYOSB party but you really just want to be a wallflower at the orgy.

Posted by: All Hail President Eris, Benevolent Dictatrix at November 20, 2020 08:41 AM (Dc2NZ)

290 No I am serious here? What is the point here? To invalidate the election because of fraud right? That has to happen now, not in 6 months to 4 years
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2020 08:36 AM (tsZQ+)
+++++++++++++
Powel spoke to this point directly, as did Giuliani. It is why they're not building their case on Dominion/Smartmatic - it would take too long and needs to involve criminal law. They have asserted that they can prove outcome-changing fraud *without* Dominion, and that they are pursuing those items extremely quickly.

I am willing to give that team the benefit of the doubt that they can move fast enough. After that, it remains to be seen whether the courts *or* the legislatures will do the right thing - but if those institutions choose to do nothing, that is not on the legal team. JJ had a very pithy quote on this yesterday, but I am having trouble finding it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 08:41 AM (hYcqw)

291 Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 08:36 AM (bDqIh)


PA is midwest? That's a bizarre perspective I can't begin to understand.

Posted by: Old Man Biden at November 20, 2020 08:41 AM (oVJmc)

292
"mandatory buyback" for guns is a Democrat euphemism for Confiscation

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 20, 2020 08:42 AM (dgQqG)

293 Posted by: rhennigantx at November 20, 2020 08:30 AM (JFO2v)Posted by: rhennigantx at November 20, 2020 08:30 AM (JFO2v)

Yeah, all those AVCB precincts in Detroit totaled 173,000 votes according to Crowder.

Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2020 08:42 AM (9UmRs)

294 286 You know, if you have a really pleasant dream, and concentrate on it as you fall asleep, sometimes you get a repeat performance. Lately, I've had one. It starts with Beto knocking on my door, saying "Hi Bill, here to pick up those guns". I won't bore you with details, but at the end I'm washing off one of those little Kubota backhoes I've always wanted.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 20, 2020 08:41 AM (I58tH)

you cannot spell beatoff without BETO

Posted by: John fuckface Brennon at November 20, 2020 08:42 AM (JFO2v)

295 207 If Powell puts all of her evidence on the table it gives time for the 1 million blue check mafia to discredit, obfuscate, and lie to confuse the truth. Most of these state legislators are not professional politicians and are more easily swayed by public opinion poisoned by the left.
----------------------------------

That is exactly what I was thinking even before Tucker requested she come on his show.
Posted by: DC at November 20, 2020 08:28 AM (onMzM)


So instead, let's leave an information vacuum.

Good plan.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 08:42 AM (ZfRYq)

296 No you can't have an abortion. But here's $100 to help raise the baby.

Posted by: Mandatory Abortion Buyback Program. at November 20, 2020 08:42 AM (r4fw8)

297 If I have this correct the Trump lawyers are currently suing individual states to not certify elections based on evidence of fraud and to get audits of vote tabulations . They are requesting states follow their election statutes For states that do not comply the back up is the SC?

Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2020 08:42 AM (Y1GDT)

298 Trump's team needs to give incontrovertible evidence to the COURT and the court only.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 20, 2020 08:19 AM (kszLT)


I think they gave the public enough yesterday. I've sounded like a broken record on the need to galvanize public will as well as win in court. Yesterday - Team Trump did that in my opinion. I suspect they'll need to do something weekly now. I thought yesterday was a success.

Posted by: Always Be Lurking at November 20, 2020 08:43 AM (cWLG9)

299 you'll know when it's over for Tucker

he'll revert back to the bow tie

Posted by: REDACTED at November 20, 2020 08:43 AM (R3uW8)

300 How obvious was the theft? So obvious that nearly a third of Democrats think it was stolen.


I wonder how many are Bernie Bros., and it's not a manifestation of centrists but the polar ends who see how they've been shut out of the process.

Posted by: Old Man Biden at November 20, 2020 08:43 AM (oVJmc)

301 280 "Why do that yet hold back Dominion evidence that would break the whole thing open?"


They're employing Breitbart strategy. Drop by drop.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 20, 2020 08:43 AM (H8QX8)

302 James White has video of a German scientist doing a livestream criticizing their virus policies. A swat team busts into his house, takes him to the ground and arrests him. All live.

Meanwhile, Omar the Bomb Maker is left unmolested in the next door apartment...

Priorities. The Government has them. And they are targeting you.

Posted by: President Elect 🐧 at November 20, 2020 08:43 AM (C+evo)

303 261 Arizona done counting yet?

Posted by: Comrade dude in MI at November 20, 2020 08:37 AM (/6GbT)

Ballots from Mexico coming up today boss!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2020 08:43 AM (7Y5nA)

304 I sock, therefore I am.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2020 08:43 AM (oVJmc)

305 >>He looks like an asexual sexbot. For when you're invited to a BYOSB party but you really just want to be a wallflower at the orgy. Posted by: All Hail President Eris, Benevolent Dictatrix at November 20, 2020 08:41 AM (Dc2NZ)

Gary Numan's "Are 'Friends' Electric?" was written for Mark Zuckerberg.

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 08:43 AM (xK9An)

306 Multiple times Rudy said he could prove Trump won without using any of the evidence about the phony vote counting machines.

@@@

My read between the lines since this started is because the real vote for Trump was so great (we did our part) the cheat was way over the top. If they could get a fair recount they could take it that way and that would be the most desirable way. If not then proceed on to the vote machines and other pathways. The key is the massive Trump turn out with out which the signal of cheating would be lost to the noise of secret balloting. There are obstacles with all the paths but we are getting the fight we deserve at least from team Trump. Also shouldn't Harris have resigned from the senate already and started picking out curtains? Is she hedging her bets?

Posted by: Piratepatch at November 20, 2020 08:44 AM (2Xrky)

307 Anyone care to book a bet that journalists are now spending 100 x more man hours investigating the "background" of Sidney Powell than the evidence she brought out on Dominion software?
Posted by: Zek at November 20, 2020 08:21 AM (r4fw


and it scares them, what they find

I Know Sidney Powell. She Is Telling the Truth
https://tinyurl.com/y2xzlg6p

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 08:44 AM (sfhL4)

308 Yeah, all those AVCB precincts in Detroit totaled 173,000 votes according to Crowder.
Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2020 08:42 AM (9UmRs)

I never did all the math. But there of page upon page of data like I cut and pasted.

Posted by: John fuckface Brennon at November 20, 2020 08:44 AM (JFO2v)

309 Don't remember the MSM demanding Mueller lay all of his cards on the table

IMMEDIATELY

Posted by: REDACTED at November 20, 2020 08:44 AM (R3uW8)

310 off warlord sox

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 20, 2020 08:44 AM (JFO2v)

311 Molly McCann works with Powell. Here's a thread she did about Tucker/Powell:

@molmccann10h

I like @TuckerCarlson a lot, and he has one of the best shows on television. But he sounds like a spoiled brat here. I wonder if he recalls his tepid and skeptical attitude toward Lt. General Michael Flynn in the past four years? Because I do. Sidney Powell, came to D.C. and...

Read the rest here. It's unrolled, so you don't have to go to twitter:

https://tinyurl.com/y3cp7who

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2020 08:45 AM (cF8AT)

312 280 - Zek

IMO, the main Dominion evidence is being held for when Team Trump gets to the Supreme Court. Don't forget, we grabbed their server in Germany.

All eyes will on the SC when that moment comes, it'll be...interesting to say the least.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 20, 2020 08:45 AM (W+kMI)

313 So instead, let's leave an information vacuum.
Good plan.
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 08:42 AM (ZfRYq)
--------------------------------------
A momentary information vacuum, yes. With the objective of winning the end game.

Posted by: DC at November 20, 2020 08:45 AM (onMzM)

314 Don't remember the MSM demanding Mueller lay all of his cards on the table

IMMEDIATELY
Posted by: REDACTED at November 20, 2020 08:44 AM (R3uW8


But everyone here is a legal scholar and mensa candidate and TRUMP MUST LISTEN TO US......

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 08:46 AM (Zz0t1)

315 >>"Hi Bill, here to pick up those guns". I won't bore you with details, but at the end I'm washing off one of those little Kubota backhoes I've always wanted.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 20, 2020 08:41 AM (I58tH)

The details.

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 08:46 AM (xK9An)

316 292
"mandatory buyback" for guns is a Democrat euphemism for Confiscation

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 20, 2020 08:42 AM (dgQqG)


They can sweeten it up a bit with "you are invited to participate in a mandatory buyback."

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2020 08:46 AM (7Y5nA)

317 I have never seen a group of lawyers - all of them - more furious in my life. That kind of rage is probably deleterious to their health. I don't blame them, but it was borderline scary how angry they are, especially Powel. Ellis was more aggressive and so was Giuliani, but Powel had a much harder edge.

--

They're in the same boat with all of us then. I've noticed a marked uptick in serious anger here and at a few other blogs I frequent. It's in the language people are using, and it's an obvious bubbling up of huge rage.

Btw, I think it was you who brought up Qwant yesterday? I like it! I can't get it to be my default in my browser in Opera, but I just have to remember to put a "q" in before my query. Seems like a good search engine, so thanks for the recommendation.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2020 08:46 AM (O+I8R)

318 They've laid out all the other evidence at press conferences and filed plenty of affidavits alleging fraud that included evidence. Why do that yet hold back Dominion evidence that would break the whole thing open?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 08:39 AM (CQ3Qb)
++++++++
Powel spoke to this directly yesterday, and Ellis did so indirectly: because pursuing Dominion right now would take too long for the purposes of disrupting the theft in time so they are prioritizing the easier case that will achieve the same outcome with fewer moving parts.

I don't get the impression that (if Trump wins, anyway) they are never going to pursue Dominion - only that they're not doing so right now for the purposes of disrupting the election theft because they have easier ways to achieve that particular goal. If Trump and his team pull this off, I expect to hear a lot about Dominion in about a year (or nothing at all - there will be no middle ground).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 08:46 AM (hYcqw)

319 173,000 ballots from unregistered voters
----

Watched the Crowder video. I agree that it's fishy that they report absentee votes separately, so that you can't tell what the overall turnout was for each precinct.

But clearly *some* people in Detroit were submitting absentee votes, right? If the walk-in turnout was less than 20%, which is what he started out showing, maybe 173,000 is a reasonable number of absentees overall?

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 20, 2020 08:46 AM (sGnvY)

320 MI Secretary of State Benson: "No Legal Avenue" for Two Republicans to Rescind Certification Vote
__________

I am neither a lawyer nor a Michigander (thank God for both!) But I find it hard to believe that there is no treatment under the law there for extorting officials by threat of violence.

I have noticed that it's become common for officials to cite just one narrow point of the law, in one section, and not cite other areas under which actions might fall.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 08:47 AM (7X3UV)

321 "Don't forget, we grabbed their server in Germany."

Some evidence of that actually happening would be helpful.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 08:47 AM (CQ3Qb)

322 Why does everybody think all 90 year old people are so emotionally fragile?. Everyone in my congregation who is over 85 is having people over for Thanksgiving. They want to see their families. I'm not asking them how many people are coming over (It's not my business) but they think all these regulations are crazy.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2020 08:47 AM (WkPC9)

323 Does the Fox-cott include FoxBusiness ?

cuz Maria and the biz folks >>> FN douchenozzles

Posted by: McCool at November 20, 2020 08:47 AM (0GdRL)

324 @312
Perhaps. But I'm not pinning my hopes on SCOTUS. Constitutionally, the easiest play would be for them to "remand" everything back to the State Legislatures per Article II.
So it's going to all come down IMO to whether the Legislatures will have the huevos to throw out a fraudulent vote in the face of race-riots.

Posted by: Mandatory Abortion Buyback Program. at November 20, 2020 08:47 AM (r4fw8)

325 "Don't forget, we grabbed their server in Germany."

Some evidence of that actually happening would be helpful.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 08:47 AM (CQ3Qb)


Yes, because unless they release all of their evidence in the court of public opinion, they'll NEVER win in ACTUAL court.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 08:48 AM (Zz0t1)

326 Btw, I think it was you who brought up Qwant yesterday? I like it! I can't get it to be my default in my browser in Opera, but I just have to remember to put a "q" in before my query. Seems like a good search engine, so thanks for the recommendation.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2020 08:46 AM (O+I8R)
++++++++++++
Sure! I am glad I could help, but I can take no credit - I learned about Qwant from some other moron.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 08:48 AM (hYcqw)

327 Math! What can't it do?!

The Arleigh Burke-class destroyer
John Finn, equipped with Aegis Baseline 9, received a track from an
external sensor through the Command and Control Battle Management
Communications network.
The ship then fired on and destroyed the target with the SM-3IIA, the release said.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at November 20, 2020 08:48 AM (N17yv)

328 Tami thanks that was a great thread by Molly McCann

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 20, 2020 08:48 AM (j9HX3)

329 Sponge, The drinks and steaks are on me!

Posted by: Ben Had at November 20, 2020 08:48 AM (kszLT)

330 Don't remember the MSM demanding Mueller lay all of his cards on the table

IMMEDIATELY
Posted by: REDACTED at November 20, 2020 08:44 AM (R3uW8

But everyone here is a legal scholar and mensa candidate and TRUMP MUST LISTEN TO US......
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect



I've been in college 7 years. Im no dummy.
---Booger, from that one 80s movie about a nerd frat or something

Posted by: THE Lonebadger at November 20, 2020 08:49 AM (vYL7p)

331 321 "Don't forget, we grabbed their server in Germany."

I hate getting grabbed by the server, especially in Germany

Posted by: REDACTED at November 20, 2020 08:49 AM (R3uW8)

332 I don't get the impression that (if Trump wins,
anyway) they are never going to pursue Dominion - only that they're not
doing so right now for the purposes of disrupting the election theft
because they have easier ways to achieve that particular goal. If Trump
and his team pull this off, I expect to hear a lot about Dominion in
about a year (or nothing at all - there will be no middle ground).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 08:46 AM (hYcqw)


That only gives credence to the idea that this Dominion story only exists as an excuse for Trump to never have to admit to losing. They can't just let these accusations float out there forever without presenting any evidence. How do those GA Senate runoff candidates get their voters to the polls when the President and his lawyers are telling them that the machines are rigged to give their vote to the Democrat anyway?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 08:49 AM (CQ3Qb)

333 {{{{Ben Had}}}}

I would LOVE that.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 08:50 AM (Zz0t1)

334 >>Everyone in my congregation who is over 85 is having people over for Thanksgiving. They want to see their families. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2020 08:47 AM (WkPC9)

These elderly will be arrested, fingerprinted, put in cells, and given a pimento cheese-on-white sandwich and a half-pint of milk. Defiance must be punished, Fen. You know this.

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 08:50 AM (xK9An)

335 >>>They can sweeten it up a bit with "you are invited to participate in a mandatory buyback."

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2020 08:46 AM (7Y5nA)

================
Followed a couple months later with "We invite you to attend the next Obama Initiative Re-Education Camp! Fun, games, campfires, executions!"

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at November 20, 2020 08:51 AM (N17yv)

336 330
I've been in college 7 years. Im no dummy.
---Booger, from that one 80s movie about a nerd frat or something
Posted by: THE Lonebadger at November 20, 2020 08:49 AM (vYL7p)

==========

7 years of college down the drain...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, going back...to the Future! at November 20, 2020 08:51 AM (LvTSG)

337
I zee the "deprogramming" isn't vorking on any of you.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 20, 2020 08:51 AM (dgQqG)

338 @278

I'm not saying they are doing it wrong all I'm saying is that there are date certains written into law...


Chief among them...

Looks at Calendar...

Looks at Gantt chart...


Adjust Task: Electors cast their ballots, 24 Days, 12/14/20.

Adjust Task: Congress certifies results, 47 Days, 1/6/21.

Adjust Task: Inauguration day, 61 Days, 1/20/21.


So uhm, yeah, shit has got to happen very quickly if Trump is to prevail.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 20, 2020 08:52 AM (qEjZn)

339 'How *Do* You Deprogram 75 Million People?' -- California Democrat Wants "Post WWII"-Type Re-Education For Conservatives
__________

Just one more example of the decline of the Left's ability to state much of anything. It is one of the elementary rules of logical argument that one start from an agreed premise. But this douchebag is typical in that he just puts forth as unquestioned highly disputable "facts" as a basis for his entire position.

Ages ago I used to like arguing with lefties, because they did understand that. There were already some disturbing signs; the ubiquitous ad hominem, for instance. But ultimately they did believe in rational discourse.

Then came Post Modernism. And all that went down the drain. Today's batch are pretty much hopeless.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 08:52 AM (7X3UV)

340 Yes, because unless they release all of their evidence in the court of public opinion, they'll NEVER win in ACTUAL court.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 08:48 AM (Zz0t1)

Just stop. The claim is that the US Army invaded Germany to seize a server that secretly controlled our Presidential election, possibly with the involvement of other countries. Claims like that can start wars. They can't show us that it even happened? Nobody can? And people believe this?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 08:52 AM (CQ3Qb)

341 321 - Brian in New Orleans

LOL...I dunno, Dominion departing their HQ in Canada without warning *might* be a clue...just say'n

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 20, 2020 08:52 AM (W+kMI)

342 >>He looks like an asexual sexbot. For when you're invited to a BYOSB party but you really just want to be a wallflower at the orgy.


Oh geez, now I'm thinking of the silly scene in "Sleeper" where Woody Allen pretended to be a robot at a sex orgy (and Zuck looked like him with that white sunscreen on his face while surfing). . LOL

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 08:52 AM (bDqIh)

343 MI Secretary of State Benson: "No Legal Avenue" for Two Republicans to Rescind Certification Vote


The circumstances make the certification illegitimate, regardless of what technicalities the SoS wants to invoke.

We're beyond the legalisms now.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2020 08:52 AM (oVJmc)

344
It really has to happen before Dec. 14th.


State electors start casting their ballots on that date.


So if Trump is going to prevail a lot of shit needs to get sorted out and put before courts and controlling authorities, like, NOW!
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 20, 2020 08:39 AM (u/Xy6)


Is December 14th a date written in the Constitution? Or is it that's the way it's always been done. If the latter, then that deadline can be waived considering the circumstances.

Posted by: Justsayin' at November 20, 2020 08:53 AM (Fs5vw)

345 >>>That only gives credence to the idea that this Dominion story only
exists as an excuse for Trump to never have to admit to losing.
================
Every one here is dumber for having read that. You are awarded zero points, and may God have mercy on your dark soul.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at November 20, 2020 08:53 AM (N17yv)

346 Perhaps. But I'm not pinning my hopes on SCOTUS. Constitutionally, the easiest play would be for them to "remand" everything back to the State Legislatures per Article II.
So it's going to all come down IMO to whether the Legislatures will have the huevos to throw out a fraudulent vote in the face of race-riots.
Posted by: Mandatory Abortion Buyback Program. at November 20, 2020 08:47 AM (r4fw

Agree completely. And my greatest fear is that the GOP-e state legislatures, when faced with the likelihood of insurrection, will back down and hand the win to Biden even though they know it's wrong.

It's hard to stay hopeful when even Tucker Carlson has shown he's on the other side.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2020 08:53 AM (V2Yro)

347 "Al Gore had 37 days to prove his case."

Gore should have been stopped much sooner, but the DEms running the machinery kept breaking rules and precedent and law, till it was finally stopped at SCOTUS.


I recall even Dem "experts" on CNN saying how this step can't work, then they gave reasons why, BUT then "a miracle would happen" and Dem corruption would win another step in the process.


This case is just the opposite ... the evil forces are all against the truth coming out, even as a landslide of evidence can't be completely buried. Good needs a big win over evil ...

Posted by: illiniwek at November 20, 2020 08:53 AM (Cus5s)

348
Are we at the stage in this farce when Dominion people tell us they've "received death threats" from Trump supporter?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 20, 2020 08:53 AM (dgQqG)

349 These elderly will be arrested, fingerprinted, put in cells, and given a pimento cheese-on-white sandwich and a half-pint of milk. Defiance must be punished, Fen. You know this.
Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 08:50 AM (xK9An)

The old ones...off to the nursing homes for them.

Posted by: Comrade dude in MI at November 20, 2020 08:53 AM (/6GbT)

350 The game is, perhaps, afoot.

Posted by: That Guy who murmurs "The game is, perhaps, afoot." at November 20, 2020 08:54 AM (FrgNp)

351 G'mornin' Horde !


I heard what you heard, JJ, in the bits of the presentation that Rush JIP'ped yesterday; that whole thing filled me with hope.
I caught myself smiling as I was driving home, and thereafter !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 TRUMP WON! at November 20, 2020 08:54 AM (6psdy)

352 Watched the Crowder video. I agree that it's fishy that they report absentee votes separately, so that you can't tell what the overall turnout was for each precinct.

But clearly *some* people in Detroit were submitting absentee votes, right? If the walk-in turnout was less than 20%, which is what he started out showing, maybe 173,000 is a reasonable number of absentees overall?
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 20, 2020 08:46 AM (sGnvY)

I posted a instance were 0 registered voters and 0 mail in ballots received voted 216 times.

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 20, 2020 08:54 AM (JFO2v)

353 Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 08:50 AM (xK9An)

That is punishment indeed-a pimento cheese on white sandwich! I think even in N.J. the cops who are off want to enjoy TG with their families, and the other ones don't want to bust down the door of the mother-in-law of the guy who used to be the local police chief. Yes;, that MIL and SIL like each other. Maybe he would want her door busted down if he didn't like her.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2020 08:54 AM (WkPC9)

354 This person is a PA legislator...

@valgaydos

UPDATE: At 10 pm last night we were informed that Dominion Voter Systems backed out of testifying before the House State Govt Comm. There will be a House press conf at 10 am TODAY to address Dominion's failure to appear.

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2020 08:55 AM (cF8AT)

355 >>339 'How *Do* You Deprogram 75 Million People?' -- California Democrat Wants "Post WWII"-Type Re-Education For Conservatives

Status: Uneducable hillbilly redneck racist homophobes.

Post-camp: Clean, docile, effeminate Eloi.

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 08:55 AM (xK9An)

356
Are we at the stage in this farce when "election officials" in Philadelphia, Atlanta, Las Vegas, and Arizona tell us, via Fake News, they're receiving death threats from Trump supporters?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 20, 2020 08:55 AM (dgQqG)

357 >>>Is December 14th a date written in the Constitution?
============
Constitution. Powell and Giuliani will never get even get a hearing in court before those dates. We need massive political pressure on state legislatures to win this.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at November 20, 2020 08:55 AM (N17yv)

358 190

Bro, she is not going to lay out the actual evidence at a press conference! It will be at the trial.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 08:25 AM

Yep, let's remember what the Left does in terms of court cases.

"Hands up, Don't Shoot" -- Lie
Everything to do with the Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman case -- Lie
George Floyd case -- Lie

The Left may have won the social media, court of public opinion battle in those cases, but, in court, under oath, with facts and evidence -- not baseless lies spewed in the media -- the Left lost every case (pending with the George Floyd case).

So again, the Left can spew all the lies they want in the media right now. What matters is the court decision. And the court case is not helped in the slightest by presenting evidence to the public. In fact, the opposite is likely the case.

No lawyer in their right mind lays out their evidence prior to the trial.

I honestly am baffled by those asking for such.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 20, 2020 08:55 AM (Do5/p)

359 And so it begins.
And so it doesn't begin.
And so it doesn't begin.

Posted by: Dominion Tabulated Nic at November 20, 2020 08:55 AM (r4fw8)

360 LOL...I dunno, Dominion departing their HQ in Canada without warning *might* be a clue...just say'n

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 20, 2020 08:52 AM (W+kMI)


I don't know what this means. Are you suggesting Dominion closed up shop and is running? That's going to be news to the people setting up Dominion machines right now for run-off elections that start today.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 08:55 AM (CQ3Qb)

361 AG Sidney Powell or SCOTUS

Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2020 08:55 AM (jd96/)

362 325 "Don't forget, we grabbed their server in Germany."

Some evidence of that actually happening would be helpful.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 08:47 AM (CQ3Qb)

Yes, because unless they release all of their evidence in the court of public opinion, they'll NEVER win in ACTUAL court.
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 08:48 AM (Zz0t1)


It seems we have hardened our epistemological positions, then.

Making a claim that is exceptional requires exceptional evidence.

And it does not seem to me that the "Special Forces took a server in Germany" thing is part of the case. If so, then the "this evidence is only for the court's eyes" is moot. Powell states that she doesn't know who took it. Yes, I get it, she has a great reputation. But, you can't just go making a claim like that and say I am not going to explain it. Especially if you want people to believe it. And extra especially if you want people to believe OTHER THINGS YOU ARE SAYING.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 08:55 AM (ZfRYq)

363 As Whitmer said, Biden is president, the electors will vote as the media instructed, and to do otherwise would be racist.
====

Who gives a shit what an overly-botoxed, shiny-faced, fetal alcohol sydrome-afflicted, power hungry rotten whore has to say about anything?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 20, 2020 08:56 AM (vg8iE)

364 That only gives credence to the idea that this Dominion story only exists as an excuse for Trump to never have to admit to losing. They can't just let these accusations float out there forever without presenting any evidence. How do those GA Senate runoff candidates get their voters to the polls when the President and his lawyers are telling them that the machines are rigged to give their vote to the Democrat anyway?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 08:49 AM (CQ3Qb)
+++++++++++++++
I would play it exactly the way they are playing it, to be honest. Dominion rats pulling up stakes and scurrying is a pretty big tell on its own. But besides the odd confluence of events post-election, I wouldn't lay out all my evidence either. If they do, the press will poison any potential jury pool they can. Laying out the case and a couple of morsels of specific evidence with precise description - though not exhibition - of what else they have gets the ball rolling without exposing too much danger to their evidence or their witnesses.

They're defending their evidence and their witnesses while trying to mollify incredibly angry people (people like me, bluntly). I think they did a pretty good job yesterday.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 08:56 AM (hYcqw)

365 The game is, perhaps, afoot.
Posted by: That Guy who murmurs "The game is, perhaps, afoot."



And so it begins.

Posted by: That Guy Who Says "And so it begins" at November 20, 2020 08:56 AM (Z+uwH)

366 Tucker was a real disappointment. Nothing wrong with wanting more info. But he clearly thinks he rules the world and should throw a bit of a snit when he doesn't get exactly what he wants from everyone. I thought he embarrassed himself last night.


First of all, it might not occur to Tucker that anyone has anything else more important to do than to appear on his almighty show. But in case he hasn't noticed, Sidney Powell is leading a team of lawyers trying to save the republic over the next three weeks. So yeah...maybe she doesn't prioritize spending an hour with the almighty Tucker Carlson.

Second, she probably just doesn't trust him. Maybe because he's on Fox, which is good enough reason. Or maybe it's because Tucker lost Hunter Biden evidence in the MAIL. Doesn't exactly instill confidence.

And finally, Powell and the others have said over and over and over again that they have to try this in a court. Where there are actual rules about procedure and fairness, and standards for judgement. There is NO benefit to them releasing their courtroom evidence in public, where it can be manipulated and misrepresented. She told us what they have seen and intend to prove in court. You can trust her or not. But Tucker is just falling into the same pattern as all the rest of the CNN, NYT, etc. Everything from the Trump side must be poked and burned with all skepticism, everything from the Dimocrat side must be accepted as holy truth. I was glad Gutfeld was on right after that to show a little fire and common sense.

Posted by: Matt at November 20, 2020 08:56 AM (3J5Re)

367 The "where's the evidence" whine (and I'm guilty of it too) is silly at this point .

All the evidence of fraud is right there, public information.

All you have to do is pick a precinct in any of these cities. Pull up the population, the voting history and 2020 results and get to work.

It's really a whine of, "why won't you do all that work for me while you're trying to build that same case over hundreds of precincts?! Oh, and while you're at it, get me a latte and a confession from all the conspirators."

There is a 4-part test that must be met to throw out election results. Someone here posted them a few times over a week ago.
The hardest one was the last one, Trump had met the 1st three. But the last one, that the fraud was enough to affect the outcome.

Yesterday, Rudy flat-out stated it was in PA, WI, MI and GA. He also said NM was likely and VA was close.

This is pure mail-in vote fraud he's talking about. Nothing to do with Dominion. But, by counting votes that were not valid under the law.

Absentee ballots are routinely rejected at 3% to 5%. No state had a mail-in rejection rate in 2020 greater than 0.005; one half of 1%.
NV rejected only .0025 of all mail-in ballots. Less than 2,000 out of 800,000 returned.

That's impossible ... if they followed the law.

Posted by: RoyalOil at November 20, 2020 08:56 AM (aO8Gd)

368 why am I messing up with 0 o and O dayum

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 20, 2020 08:56 AM (JFO2v)

369 @JZmirak 16h

I worked with Sidney Powell for almost a year. I know her. Her voice quavering a little at the press conference is indicative that she's absolutely convinced of her charges, and outraged at the threat to our country. God bless her and keep her strong.
Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2020 08:40 AM (cF8AT)


I posted is piece this morning at 25

I Know Sidney Powell. She Is Telling the Truth
https://tinyurl.com/y2xzlg6p

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 08:57 AM (sfhL4)

370 340 Yes, because unless they release all of their evidence in the court of public opinion, they'll NEVER win in ACTUAL court.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 08:48 AM (Zz0t1)

Just stop. The claim is that the US Army invaded Germany to seize a server that secretly controlled our Presidential election, possibly with the involvement of other countries. Claims like that can start wars. They can't show us that it even happened? Nobody can? And people believe this?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 08:52 AM (CQ3Qb)

This is again an inaccurate characterization. For that matter, there's not any certainty about which part of the US government did the seizing. What is asserted is that a server controlled by the US government on US government property was seized by another group, possibly also within the US government. The most common angle put forth is that the server was being used to monitor our elections by the CIA.

US army invading Germany? Really? We're got plenty of people in Germany. We spy on their prime minister, we control their intelligence agencies. Letting the Germans do anything without our permission isn't high on our priority list.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 20, 2020 08:57 AM (Zm+LZ)

371
How odd that the last incidence of a police shooting a black perp was October 26th.

If you think that's the last time the police shot a black criminal, you're as dumb as the Fake News thinks you are.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 20, 2020 08:57 AM (dgQqG)

372 As Rudi said, and there are some more specific articles above, a recount is useless if you are just re-counting invalid ballots as good ones.

It would, presumably, find those which fit Rudi's example of thrice entered votes, I suppose. But one problem with this whole caper is the fact that it is such a wide-spread and varied attack. It operates on many fronts, and many levels. Along with the rest of their tactics, this is a classic case of saturating the defense.

Rudi says they made a lot of mistakes. But they sure as hell had a good battle plan. Fortunately, it's a feature of military history that a lesser battle plan well executed usually beats an ideal one poorly conducted.

Let's hope and pray. But I cannot forget that God's plan may not involve fun for me. It might entail a tenure in Babylon.

(And I don't want to go back to the NY village I was raised in.)

Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 08:58 AM (7X3UV)

373 pimento cheese-on-white sandwich and a half-pint of milk. Defiance must be punished, Fen. You know this.

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 08:50 AM (xK9An)


Pimento cheese on white! OH THE HUMANITY!!!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2020 08:58 AM (7Y5nA)

374 348 - Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales

Press interviews of Dominion leadership are curiously absent from MSM news-feeds.

And let's not forget that Smartmatic has also gone 'POOF' as well.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 20, 2020 08:58 AM (W+kMI)

375 My faith remains strong and regardless of the outcome, His will be done, because at the end of the day, we don't know what His plan is, but the way things are looking, there's a section at the end of the good book that pretty much lays things out.
Posted by: stourma at November 20, 2020 08:38 AM (bbYBJ)

Praying right there with you brother.

Posted by: spypeach at November 20, 2020 08:58 AM (Up/Jb)

376 @danielchaitin7

Trump attorney Sidney Powell fires back: Tucker Carlson was 'insulting, demanding, and rude'

Video: (Powell on Maria's show via phone)

https://tinyurl.com/yywp9eng

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2020 08:58 AM (cF8AT)

377 And I don't want to go back to the NY village I was raised in.)

Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 08:58 AM (7X3UV)

UGH. Me neither.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2020 08:59 AM (7Y5nA)

378 'How *Do* You Deprogram 75 Million People?' -- California Democrat Wants "Post WWII"-Type Re-Education For Conservatives

Posted by: Zod



*types *deletes

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2020 08:59 AM (Z+uwH)

379 NV rejected only .0025 of all mail-in ballots. Less than 2,000 out of 800,000 returned.

That's impossible ... if they followed the law.
Posted by: RoyalOil at November 20, 2020 08:56 AM (aO8Gd)

Previous Clark Cty election was about 20% failure rate for mail in!

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 20, 2020 08:59 AM (JFO2v)

380 "At 10 pm last night we were informed that Dominion Voter Systems backed
out of testifying before the House State Govt Comm. There will be a
House press conf at 10 am TODAY to address Dominion's failure to appear."


Well that sounds perfectly normal, or something. Good grief they could have hired any lawyer in the phonebook to stall and obfuscate a state legislative hearing.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 20, 2020 08:59 AM (4thlk)

381
@valgaydos

UPDATE: At 10 pm last night we were informed that Dominion Voter Systems backed out of testifying before the House State Govt Comm. There will be a House press conf at 10 am TODAY to address Dominion's failure to appear.



Doesn't sound like they're the 'wronged party,' does it, Perino?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2020 09:00 AM (oVJmc)

382 Ah yes, clamoring for evidence gambit. Reminds me of the days and months following Sepetember 11, when the Saudis and other bad actors were all over the news asking for evidence that Muslims, Saidis were involved in the atrocity. Give it to them right there and then ! They also managed, in the same breath, to point out how Zionists did not show up for work that day. Which was totes evidence of Mossad involvement.

Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 09:00 AM (zr5Kq)

383 "So it's going to all come down IMO to whether the Legislatures will have
the huevos to throw out a fraudulent vote in the face of race-riots."

imo it will come down to hard evidence revealing a Trump Big Win ... and massive fraud changing results. IF that comes out, THEN whoever has to act (probably) will act.


That is why the complete shutdown by media and BigTech and every Dem run operative in the bureaucracy .. they drive their narrative 24/7, the Hate machine is turned up to eleventy ... as if they know they stole it ... of course the chiefs know, they've been perfecting their steals for years, infiltrating our systems ... now is their time. (and our time to stop them)

Posted by: illiniwek at November 20, 2020 09:00 AM (Cus5s)

384 Molly McCann
at_molmccann

I like at_TuckerCarlson a lot, and he has one of the best shows on television. But he sounds like a spoiled brat here. I wonder if he recalls his tepid and skeptical attitude toward Lt. General Michael Flynn in the past four years? Because I do. Sidney Powell, came to D.C. and...
___________

Tucker is, after all, a journalist. It would be unrealistic to expect him to be immune to the maladies of his profession. He's not Mollie Hemingway.

(And what is with these conservative writers named "Mollie"? Beautiful and brilliant. More, please.)

Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 09:00 AM (7X3UV)

385 Consumer Reports puts Tesla in second-to-last place for most reliable new cars
Tesla's Model Y earned just 5 points on a 100-point scale

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 20, 2020 09:01 AM (JFO2v)

386 I posted is piece this morning at 25

I Know Sidney Powell. She Is Telling the Truth
https://tinyurl.com/y2xzlg6p

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 08:57 AM (sfhL4)

Oh good! Going to read now...

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2020 09:01 AM (cF8AT)

387 maybe 173,000 is a reasonable number of absentees overall?
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 20, 2020 08:46 AM (sGnvY)

No, what Crowder is saying is that those votes came from precincts with zero registered voters.

Detroit had 2 million people at one time. Now, it's 670,000, if that. Crowder joked it's maybe 250,000. Lots of former precincts maybe never been cleared off the voter rolls?
The east side of Detroit is mostly a grassland with more pheasants than people. Very scary area, I avoid it.

Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2020 09:01 AM (9UmRs)

388 Yeah, the press now thinks that being insulting demanding and rude is "hard hitting journalism".

Its lazy, childish and....churlish.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2020 09:01 AM (7Y5nA)

389 If a party is incessantly banging for evidence in the face of overwhelming evidence...pretending that there isn't any, or "they" are not convinced....that means they are up to their necks in it.

Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 09:01 AM (zr5Kq)

390 >>*types *deletes
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2020 08:59 AM (Z+uwH)

Can you imagine a 'Full Metal Jacket'-style bootcamp run by lefties for deplorables?

"What is THIS??!! Is this an arugula and sprouts salad with low-fat vinaigrette in your footLOCKER?!"

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 09:01 AM (xK9An)

391 I posted a instance were 0 registered voters and 0 mail in ballots received voted 216 times.
----

Right, but if you look at the Detroit precincts, they report hundreds of thousands of registered voters with 0 absentee votes cast. So it seems obvious that the AVCB votes with "0 registered voters" are supposed to be from those precincts.

I agree that it's fishy that they aren't letting you see the precinct-by-precinct absentee vote numbers, but I don't see how all 173,000 could be fake, unless nobody in Detroit actually voted by mail.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 20, 2020 09:01 AM (sGnvY)

392 I trust that Powell, et al. know how arguments work, as well as the role of evidence.

I also trust that they are incredibly aware that they are up against a hostile media, narrow window of time, and a public that needs to be convinced. As J.J. wrote, this is an uphill battle, and I am sure they are moving it forward/uphill as quickly as they reasonably can.

Could any of us--without access to their information--actually make a reasonable case for doing a better job than they are doing?

Posted by: DC at November 20, 2020 09:02 AM (onMzM)

393
I like how one of the few R Senators, Grassley, who was out there speaking out just so happened to "test positive" for chinese aids at this critical time.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 20, 2020 09:02 AM (dgQqG)

394 Posted by: stourma at November 20, 2020 08:38 AM (bbYBJ)

Thanks, stourma, for your witness!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2020 09:02 AM (WkPC9)

395 I think even in N.J. the cops who are off want to enjoy TG with their families, and the other ones don't want to bust down the door

The Howell NJ police chief issued a letter saying we are not responding to calls from COVID Karen's complaining about neighbors having too many people over. dont waste our time.

Posted by: McCool at November 20, 2020 09:02 AM (0GdRL)

396 PDJT posted a link to something his sister said, but ...it's not working for me. Is it on of JJs links ??

Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 09:02 AM (zr5Kq)

397 My personal theory is that they figured it would be close enough where they could rely on the Dominion/Smartmatic "glitches" to put the rapist over the top. I bet those kick in when their guy is only down 1 or 2 percent, because it's small enough to just be dismissed as extra noise in the system.

Unfortunately, as JJ said, Trump voters came out en masse and put him far enough ahead where their ****ery would be obvious. So they fed a bunch of fraudulent ballots into the system after they closed down counting, and the "glitches" took over from there.

All of the above is SPECULATION and not backed by anything other than my guy.

Posted by: MrUNIVAC at November 20, 2020 09:03 AM (man7Q)

398 MI Secretary of State Benson: 'No Legal Avenue' for Two Republicans to Rescind Certification Vote


As soon as the election is final, either way, I expect Benson will prosecute those two Republican board members for perjury or something. Those two will not go unpunished by the crazed Witchmer and her gang of executive branch Democrat thugs.

Posted by: Gref at November 20, 2020 09:03 AM (AMIL/)

399 It seems we have hardened our epistemological positions, then.



Making a claim that is exceptional requires exceptional evidence.



And it does not seem to me that the "Special Forces took a server in
Germany" thing is part of the case. If so, then the "this evidence is
only for the court's eyes" is moot. Powell states that she doesn't know
who took it. Yes, I get it, she has a great reputation. But, you
can't just go making a claim like that and say I am not going to explain
it. Especially if you want people to believe it. And extra especially
if you want people to believe OTHER THINGS YOU ARE SAYING.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 08:55 AM (ZfRYq)

Bullshit. People who are determined not to believe it aren't going to no matter what she shows. Or they will just censor it. CNN cut away from the press conference and told their audience, literally, it was all BS. But if only she'd shown PROOF, they would have cut right back in, and then given it a fair shake in their analysis. That's so stupid. They easily filled 90 minutes detailing what they plan to present in their case. How long do you think they should have gone on? I don't expect you to believe this or anything else she is saying, because you don't seem to want to no matter what, and that's fine. You can believe that the election was 100% squeaky clean. Stop the concern troll bullshit that people can dismiss everything she says because you don't have sufficient evidence. Meanwhile, apparently no such standard, or really any standard, applies to the other side. What a joke.

Posted by: Matt at November 20, 2020 09:03 AM (3J5Re)

400 385 Consumer Reports puts Tesla in second-to-last place for most reliable new cars
Tesla's Model Y earned just 5 points on a 100-point scale

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 20, 2020 09:01 AM (JFO2v)

Well rhen, I for one am truly surprised you don't care more for THE EARTH.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2020 09:03 AM (7Y5nA)

401 That's impossible ... if they followed the law.

Posted by: RoyalOil at November 20, 2020 08:56 AM (aO8Gd)

==================
The strongest LEGAL claim Trump has in my opinion (ie, most easily supported) is that ALL of these Democrat dominated states illegally changed election laws by edict, and not by legislative changes. The Constitution gives exclusive control to state legislatures, and SecStates/Governors have no input. This election that fact was ignored.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at November 20, 2020 09:03 AM (N17yv)

402 No, what Crowder is saying is that those votes came from precincts with zero registered voters.

===



THAT IS NOT EVIDENCE OF FRAUD 11!!1!GIVE ME EVIDENCE 111!!!!1

Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 09:03 AM (zr5Kq)

403 391 I posted a instance were 0 registered voters and 0 mail in ballots received voted 216 times.
----

Right, but if you look at the Detroit precincts, they report hundreds of thousands of registered voters with 0 absentee votes cast. So it seems obvious that the AVCB votes with "0 registered voters" are supposed to be from those precincts.

I agree that it's fishy that they aren't letting you see the precinct-by-precinct absentee vote numbers, but I don't see how all 173,000 could be fake, unless nobody in Detroit actually voted by mail.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 20, 2020 09:01 AM (sGnvY)

I agree that it's almost certainly the case that they've mixed in fake and real mail-ins for those totals. However what they've done to segregate the data seems obviously intended to hide fraud.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 20, 2020 09:04 AM (Zm+LZ)

404 LOL...I dunno, Dominion departing their HQ in Canada without warning *might* be a clue...just say'n
Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 20, 2020 08:52 AM (W+kMI)


Clearing office space in the dead of night AND deleting their LinkedIn and other online footprints.

Not suspicious....

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 09:04 AM (sfhL4)

405 "Only steers and heterosexuals come from Texas, Private Cowboy, and you don't look like a steer, so that kind of narrows it down! Do you have sex with women, Private Cowboy?!"

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 09:04 AM (xK9An)

406 All of the above is SPECULATION and not backed by anything other than my guy.
Posted by: MrUNIVAC at November 20, 2020 09:03 AM (man7Q)
+++++++++++++
Hey, Univac correctly predicted the outcome of the first election in which computers were used to attempt to predict outcomes. Adds to credibility, basically...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 09:04 AM (hYcqw)

407 All over 85 you say *grin*

Posted by: Zeke Emanuel at November 20, 2020 09:04 AM (sRR1j)

408 Morning, folks. Let's be happy warriors today.

Theme music:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy6AOGRsR80

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at November 20, 2020 09:04 AM (Msrhc)

409


The MFM is for the most part ignoring yesterday's press conference and all of the evidence of voter fraud BUT they are running with Trump is trying to overturn the election. It's North Korean level propaganda.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 20, 2020 09:04 AM (q6D+1)

410 Fox is proving the old saw that there's none more zealous than a new convert. Not that their conversation is new, but at least now they can wrap themselves in a flag that they truly believe in.

Posted by: Downcast at November 20, 2020 09:04 AM (XiCUU)

411 357 >>>Is December 14th a date written in the Constitution?
============
Constitution. Powell and Giuliani will never get even get a hearing in court before those dates. We need massive political pressure on state legislatures to win this.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at November 20, 2020 08:55 AM (N17yv)


You didn't answer my question. Is Dec 14th written into the Constitution as the day votes need to be certified? Are any of the "deadline dates" written into the Constitution?

Posted by: Justsayin' at November 20, 2020 09:05 AM (Fs5vw)

412 This is again an inaccurate characterization. For that matter, there's not any certainty about which part of the US government did the seizing. What is asserted is that a server controlled by the US government on US government property was seized by another group, possibly also within the US government. The most common angle put forth is that the server was being used to monitor our elections by the CIA.

US army invading Germany? Really? We're got plenty of people in Germany. We spy on their prime minister, we control their intelligence agencies. Letting the Germans do anything without our permission isn't high on our priority list.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 20, 2020 08:57 AM (Zm+LZ)


This is a sure sign of a bullshit story, when people start backing off of the most lurid details.

Is it a fact that there was a server seized by ANY agency of the US from Germany? And if so, is it a fact that it was seized relative to the election?

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 09:05 AM (ZfRYq)

413 "Previous Clark Cty election was about 20% failure rate for mail in!"

and I bet that was before the big ballot dumps ... when 100% were fraudulent. (just guessing, I have not followed those details)

Posted by: illiniwek at November 20, 2020 09:05 AM (Cus5s)

414 18 Hey it's put up or shut up time. This evidence appears now or it is gonna be to late. I have heard a lot of talk, but so far, that is about it. Do I think they stole the election, absolutley, but we gotta prove it or go home. And prove it NOW
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2020 07:37 AM (tsZQ+)
__________

The trouble with that is you don't say to whom you want the evidence presented. The only serious venues are courts and state legislatures. Eventually, I suppose, Congress.

But just wanting them to put it out in the public forum makes little sense. For on thing, Rudi flat-out said there are affidavits he cannot release to the press. Also, the only coverage it would get that way is what it's already getting.

So I don't really get the point.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 09:05 AM (7X3UV)

415 Tucker is working on his "fair and balanced" image....yeah...go for it.

Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 09:05 AM (zr5Kq)

416 389 If a party is incessantly banging for evidence in the face of overwhelming evidence...pretending that there isn't any, or "they" are not convinced....that means they are up to their necks in it.
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 09:01 AM (zr5K

That fact that the media is hiding this story is evidence of its veracity. If they thought it made Rudy and Trump ridiculous, it would be all over the news internationally. This is the dog that didn't bark.

Posted by: DOJ is fat and incapable at November 20, 2020 09:06 AM (ONvIw)

417 that sound you here is the moving of goalposrs. griff jenkins on fox this morning switching from "still-unproven coaims" to "nothing that has been proven in court so far"

Posted by: Anachronda at November 20, 2020 09:06 AM (5br8a)

418 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 08:57 AM (sfhL4)

Good article; Thanks for posting it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2020 09:06 AM (WkPC9)

419 Rudy has turned into a punchline for a bad joke
Posted by: (Hershey Sqi)rt
++++++++++++
What about the guys - that is, the press as a whole - constantly telling the same bad joke over and over again?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 09:06 AM (hYcqw)

420
Just stop. The claim is that the US Army invaded Germany to seize a server that secretly controlled our Presidential election, possibly with the involvement of other countries. Claims like that can start wars. They can't show us that it even happened? Nobody can? And people believe this?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 08:52 AM (CQ3Qb)


And YOU don't need proof of ANY of it.

And no, Germany isn't going to go to war with us over a server collected as evidence in an international investigation.

Shit man.....I'm starting to get on board with others that you're just a troll.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 09:06 AM (Zz0t1)

421 Oh, look, shitbag Kurt who lives in a very large glass house is castintg stones.

Fuck off, asshole.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 20, 2020 09:06 AM (vg8iE)

422 This person is a PA legislator...

@valgaydos

UPDATE: At 10 pm last night we were informed that Dominion Voter Systems backed out of testifying before the House State Govt Comm. There will be a House press conf at 10 am TODAY to address Dominion's failure to appear.
Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2020 08:55 AM (cF8AT)


this is bad

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 09:06 AM (sfhL4)

423 They had 3 years to build the impeachment case against Trump.

He has 3 weeks to build the impeachment case against the whole Democrat Party.

Who are you betting on?

Posted by: RoyalOil at November 20, 2020 09:06 AM (aO8Gd)

424 Shit man.....I'm starting to get on board with others that you're just a troll.
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 09:06 AM (Zz0t1)

He is a troll, probably Soros paid

Posted by: DOJ is fat and incapable at November 20, 2020 09:07 AM (ONvIw)

425 I wasn't mad at what Tucker said last night like at all.
One thing Tucker does is hold everybody accountable and I have no problem with that.

I remember when most of us on this board wanted Trump to appoint John Bolton.

Tucker was right about Bolton and most of us were wrong.

I've been disappointed in so many people that I thought we're going to be great that turned out not to be.

Joe DiGenova, who is on Trump's team is just example of someone who has been a big disappointment.

All I can do is keep praying, make phone calls, write letters and contribute to the GA Republican candidates.






Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2020 09:08 AM (NpAcC)

426 So, after dunking a kids head in the toilet and stealing his lunch money, the middle school bully declares there is no legal avenue for the return of the lunch money because it was freely given.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2020 09:08 AM (5myV4)

427 Posted by: McCool at November 20, 2020 09:02 AM (0GdRL)

Good for them! Exactly-Don't waste their time.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2020 09:08 AM (WkPC9)

428 Babylon Bee: "New AR-15 out that glows blue when liberals are near"

Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2020 09:08 AM (Izzlo)

429 405 Rudy has turned into a punchline for a bad joke
Posted by: Kurt at November 20, 2020 09:04 AM (YsViT)


"I know, right?"

- - John Gotti, Tony Salerno, Tony Corallo, Vincent Gigante

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 09:08 AM (s2VJv)

430 They have absolutely no valid reason to protest inquiry and investigation into voter fraud. There is absolutely nothing that this inquiry and investigation damages, as far as The United States of America is concerned. They object too loudly.

Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 09:08 AM (zr5Kq)

431 Babylon Bee: "New AR-15 out that glows blue when liberals are near"
--------------------------------
Thanks. I needed a good laugh!

Posted by: DC at November 20, 2020 09:09 AM (onMzM)

432 The trouble with that is you don't say to whom you
want the evidence presented. The only serious venues are courts and
state legislatures. Eventually, I suppose, Congress.



But just wanting them to put it out in the public forum makes little
sense. For on thing, Rudi flat-out said there are affidavits he cannot
release to the press. Also, the only coverage it would get that way is
what it's already getting.



So I don't really get the point.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 09:05 AM (7X3UV)

This is as much a political process as it is a legal one. They have to convince the public too.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 09:09 AM (CQ3Qb)

433 That whole "german server" story sounds weird.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2020 09:09 AM (5myV4)

434 Nuke the moon. You gotta nuke something.
Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2020 08:39 AM (Izzlo)

It may seem silly, but I don't like
What's been coming down.
'Cause you've been looking good too long,
To change your color now.
(Oh well.)
They might test some bomb
(Oh well.)
And scar your skin.
(Oh well.)
I don't think they care, so,
I wonder when they're going to
Destroy your face?
I hope I see you in the sky
At night, when I get old.

Posted by: Canned Heat at November 20, 2020 09:09 AM (K5agK)

435 Consumer Reports puts Tesla in second-to-last place for most reliable new cars
Tesla's Model Y earned just 5 points on a 100-point scale
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 20, 2020 09:01 AM (JFO2v)


no surprise there

so many problems

quality control is awful

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 09:09 AM (sfhL4)

436 412 This is again an inaccurate characterization. For that matter, there's not any certainty about which part of the US government did the seizing. What is asserted is that a server controlled by the US government on US government property was seized by another group, possibly also within the US government. The most common angle put forth is that the server was being used to monitor our elections by the CIA.

US army invading Germany? Really? We're got plenty of people in Germany. We spy on their prime minister, we control their intelligence agencies. Letting the Germans do anything without our permission isn't high on our priority list.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 20, 2020 08:57 AM (Zm+LZ)

This is a sure sign of a bullshit story, when people start backing off of the most lurid details.

Is it a fact that there was a server seized by ANY agency of the US from Germany? And if so, is it a fact that it was seized relative to the election?

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 09:05 AM (ZfRYq)

So you can separate the story into different parts.

1. A server was seized
2. A server owned by X was seized by X
3. A server owned by X was seized by X and it relates to the elections

Most of the details regarding 2 and 3 seem to be quite clearly speculation with possible attempts to muddy the waters, because they're not consistent over multiple sources(in the IC or government etc.). 1. by comparison seems relatively likely since the claims all agree on a seizure.

You could liken it to one of those skirmishes on the China/India borders. Both sides put out a story mixed with some bullshit, but the skirmish almost certainly did happen.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 20, 2020 09:09 AM (Zm+LZ)

437

Doesn't sound like they're the 'wronged party,' does it, Perino?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2020 09:00 AM (oVJmc)


Just as soon as she gets out from under her dog.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 09:09 AM (Zz0t1)

438 I zee the "deprogramming" isn't vorking on any of you.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 20, 2020 08:51 AM (dgQqG)

"Great Reset".....year zero.

Posted by: BignJames at November 20, 2020 09:09 AM (AwYPR)

439 >>I've been disappointed in so many people that I thought were going to be great that turned out not to be. Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2020 09:08 AM (NpAcC)

You said a mouthful. One doesn't have to stick around here long to get whiplash watching the overnight hero-to-goat routine repeated.

Hopes....dashed. New hopes....dashed.

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 09:10 AM (xK9An)

440 "I know, right?"

- - John Gotti, Tony Salerno, Tony Corallo, Vincent Gigante

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 09:08 AM (s2VJv)

I spit my cawfee.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2020 09:10 AM (7Y5nA)

441 Shit man.....I'm starting to get on board with others that you're just a troll.
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 09:06 AM (Zz0t1)
++++++++++++
I don't. If he is, then he's one of the better ones and has been assigned here for a seriously long time. I think it's something different, and closer to JackStraw than a troll. Like Jack has an unshakable faith in American justice (that I do not share), I suspect Brian has an unshakable faith in American elections, at least insofar as elections are an aggregate system - not that there aren't rotten boroughs, but that the system itself is sound and must be sound. I don't believe that myself, either. He has pointed out many times now that he has been involved in elections in his home district and all they have done to combat fraud, how machinery was central to that effort, and more. I believe him. But I do not believe in that American elections in general are sound or sacrosanct. I think he does, and it guides his extremely aggressive position on this.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 09:10 AM (hYcqw)

442 Pimento cheese on white! OH THE HUMANITY!!!
Posted by: Cannibal Bob


**********

GOOD LORD!!! It's after Labor Day! Have they no decency?

Posted by: Muldoon at November 20, 2020 09:10 AM (m45I2)

443 27 Stop harassing an absolute warrior of a woman, who has already proven herself multiple times over, and do something constructive with your air time, Tucker.

This is one of the most f'd up things.

Here we have a story of the Century, and we have the number one "news journalism" guy working for a "news" organization who is demanding that a lawyer gift wrap a Pulitzer and drop it on his desk free of charge.

Here we have "news" organizations no longer to do anything more difficult than text someone demanding a full production ready product that can be wrapped up in a segment or two for ratings.

It doesn't get any more lazy and feckless than this.

J school is dead. There is no journalism.
Posted by: President Elect at November 20, 2020 07:38 AM (C+evo)
__________

It was never alive. Read older writers, including even journalists. It was always a dishonest calling. The myth that it wasn't was made up after WWII, and was absolute BS then.

We are coming out of an hallucinatory state, that is all.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 09:11 AM (7X3UV)

444
If you listened to the briefing yesterday, you heard Rudy being asked where is the FBI on all this fraud.

I know where the FBI is.
The cocksucking FBI is HERE and at other websites MONITORING US, looking for ways to interpret comments made on the internet about "threatening" or "plotting" against biden and other Democrats.

Fuck you, FBI cocksucker agents. I know you're reading this.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 20, 2020 09:11 AM (dgQqG)

445 There is no fraud! Well, just the usual amount, ok, some fraud, i guess it is widespread, but not extensive. If it was extensive fraud, it would be a problem.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2020 09:11 AM (5myV4)

446 So Tucker Carlson is mad at Sidney Powell because she didn't give him the details of the case? Has he turned into William Atherton's character in Die Hard?

Posted by: Pete in Texas at November 20, 2020 09:11 AM (wZoFp)

447 I Know Sidney Powell. She Is Telling the Truth
https://tinyurl.com/y2xzlg6p

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 08:57 AM (sfhL4)

That was great, thanks!

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2020 09:11 AM (cF8AT)

448 398 MI Secretary of State Benson: 'No Legal Avenue' for Two Republicans to Rescind Certification Vote


As soon as the election is final, either way, I expect Benson will prosecute those two Republican board members for perjury or something. Those two will not go unpunished by the crazed Witchmer and her gang of executive branch Democrat thugs.

Posted by: Gref at November 20, 2020 09:03 AM (AMIL/)


If I understand correctly, the two never signed off on the certification, just reversed themselves verbally.

In any case, I would think coercion and threat of violence would render the thing null and void?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 09:11 AM (s2VJv)

449 >>433 That whole "german server" story sounds weird. Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2020 09:09 AM (5myV4)

This needs to be added to the Zuck sex robot bit.

Mark Zuckerberg is a German server-operated homosexual sex robot.

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 09:11 AM (xK9An)

450 Babylon Bee: "New AR-15 out that glows blue when liberals are near"

lol

Or at least "an APP for that!"

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 09:11 AM (sfhL4)

451 Consumer Reports puts Tesla in second-to-last place for most reliable new cars
Tesla's Model Y earned just 5 points on a 100-point scale

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 20, 2020 09:01 AM (JFO2v)

Well rhen, I for one am truly surprised you don't care more for THE EARTH.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob



Strip mine the earth for lithium!
We'll get to the other planets later!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2020 09:11 AM (Z+uwH)

452 >>Tucker is working on his "fair and balanced" image....yeah...go for it.


"fair and balanced"

"standing up for what's right"

Posted by: Fox's Crisis Consultant who thinks she's cleverer than Trumpy rubes at November 20, 2020 09:12 AM (bDqIh)

453 No, what Crowder is saying is that those votes came from precincts with zero registered voters.



Detroit had 2 million people at one time. Now, it's 670,000, if
that. Crowder joked it's maybe 250,000. Lots of former precincts maybe
never been cleared off the voter rolls?

The east side of Detroit is mostly a grassland with more pheasants than people. Very scary area, I avoid it.

Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2020 09:01 AM (9UmRs)


Democrats inventing voters or having the dead vote?!?!? Why it's unheard of. /s

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 20, 2020 09:12 AM (q6D+1)

454 @JoeSilverman7

No purchase limits baby!

https://tinyurl.com/y59sa6ka


Ammo sale alert!

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2020 09:12 AM (cF8AT)

455 Rudy has turned into a punchline for a bad joke
Posted by: Kurt at November 20, 2020 09:04 AM (YsViT)


Because you were distracted by his sweat, you missed ALL the content provided in the presser making your side look like communist aggressors?

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 09:12 AM (Zz0t1)

456 If you needed a lawyer would you hire Sydney Powell or Tucker Carlson?

Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at November 20, 2020 09:12 AM (lRrON)

457 And, of course, Rich Lowry, has to write in the "NY Post" about Trump's "graceless exit." I hope he gets slammed for it.
And btw, the Post often has editorials that support Trump or his policies, although a number of the articles lean left. It's certainly more balanced than the other local papers-"NY Times" and "The Daily News."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2020 09:13 AM (WkPC9)

458 When you say there is a conspiracy to commit fraud that involves hundreds, or thousands, there will be some weak links who leak.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2020 09:13 AM (5myV4)

459 Babylon Bee: "New AR-15 out that glows blue when liberals are near"



TAKE MY MONEY!!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2020 09:13 AM (Z+uwH)

460 The deadlines were written by congress. They can be waived like any law nowadays.

So I'm not worried by "deadlines".

Posted by: Justsayin' at November 20, 2020 09:13 AM (Fs5vw)

461 There is no fraud! Well, just the usual amount, ok, some fraud, i guess it is widespread, but not extensive. If it was extensive fraud, it would be a problem.
====

...and only if Stacey Abrams or some other black politician ran for office and lost. Fraud and disenfranchisement. Otherwise there is no fraud.

Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 09:13 AM (zr5Kq)

462 Doesn't sound like they're the 'wronged party,' does it, Perino?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2020 09:00 AM (oVJmc)

I stopped watching Fox a year and a half ago because of her. She's rotten.

Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2020 09:13 AM (9UmRs)

463 In any case, I would think coercion and threat of violence would render the thing null and void?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 09:11 AM (s2VJv)
+++++++++++
You'd think that, wouldn't you? But a verbal agreement under duress that is later rescinded and on a matter for which pen never touched paper represents irreversible consent in Demtown.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 09:13 AM (hYcqw)

464 This person is a PA legislator...



@valgaydos



UPDATE: At 10 pm last night we were informed that Dominion Voter
Systems backed out of testifying before the House State Govt Comm.
There will be a House press conf at 10 am TODAY to address Dominion's
failure to appear.

Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2020 08:55 AM (cF8AT)


I'm sure they are as honest as the Democrat Party

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 20, 2020 09:14 AM (q6D+1)

465 Bullshit. People who are determined not to believe it aren't going to no matter what she shows. Or they will just censor it. CNN cut away from the press conference and told their audience, literally, it was all BS. But if only she'd shown PROOF, they would have cut right back in, and then given it a fair shake in their analysis. That's so stupid. They easily filled 90 minutes detailing what they plan to present in their case. How long do you think they should have gone on? I don't expect you to believe this or anything else she is saying, because you don't seem to want to no matter what, and that's fine. You can believe that the election was 100% squeaky clean. Stop the concern troll bullshit that people can dismiss everything she says because you don't have sufficient evidence. Meanwhile, apparently no such standard, or really any standard, applies to the other side. What a joke.
Posted by: Matt at November 20, 2020 09:03 AM (3J5Re)


Wait. Your position is that they don't have to prove the claim because no one would believe the proof anyway?

Matt, I woke up on the wrong side of the bed today, and a new one name nick looks a lot like a troll, so excuse me while I lay waste to your weak ass.

If I don't believe that SF troops seized a US 2020 election related server in Germany without some evidence, then I believe that the election was 100% squeaky clean? That's the stupidest fucking thing I've heard this week, and I have heard some stupid shit.

Clearly this election is a mess, and the Dems meant it to be, and they have used the mess to get away with it. They TOLD us how they were going to steal this election. Ballot stuffing? Bending rules? Shooing Republican poll watchers out? EASY TO BELIEVE, because 1, they do it all the time, and 2 we have evidence of it. Yes, we watched Republicans blocked from polling places on video. We can see where dead people requested, received, and sent absentee ballots, and even in person.

But we can't see anything related to the SF guys going in to seize a server in a foreign country. Because, reasons, and oh, you are impatient!

Fuck all that and fuck you. How do we know that aliens didn't come down and take the server? Hell, how do we know they didn't use transporter technology to just beam it up? Don't question me you are disloyal to Trump.

Just shut it. Fuck you very much.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 09:14 AM (ZfRYq)

466 Detroit had 2 million people at one time. Now, it's 670,000, if that. Crowder joked it's maybe 250,000. Lots of former precincts maybe never been cleared off the voter rolls?

Bin Laden is dead and GM is ALIVE!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 09:14 AM (Zz0t1)

467 I don't. If he is, then he's one of the better ones
and has been assigned here for a seriously long time. I think it's
something different, and closer to JackStraw than a troll. Like Jack has
an unshakable faith in American justice (that I do not share), I
suspect Brian has an unshakable faith in American elections, at least
insofar as elections are an aggregate system - not that there aren't
rotten boroughs, but that the system itself is sound and must be sound. I
don't believe that myself, either. He has pointed out many times now
that he has been involved in elections in his home district and all they
have done to combat fraud, how machinery was central to that effort,
and more. I believe him. But I do not believe in that American elections
in general are sound or sacrosanct. I think he does, and it guides his
extremely aggressive position on this.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 09:10 AM (hYcqw)


No I don't believe in the purity of elections. Fraud is everywhere. We can fight the fraud without undermining basic faith in the systems that do work. Electronic voting/tabulating has dramatically reduced fraud where it's been used. Processes are in place to prevent much of the wild claims being made. If hackery took place it should be easy to show.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 09:14 AM (CQ3Qb)

468 That whole "german server" story sounds weird.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2020 09:09 AM (5myV4)


yeah, I think the same

when Powell said she did not know if the server was "in good hands or bad hands" - I thought, then bad hands.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 09:14 AM (sfhL4)

469 "I know, right?"

- - John Gotti, Tony Salerno, Tony Corallo, Vincent Gigante

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 09:08 AM (s2VJv)

...and he got it done with Pols on the take, witnesses threatened and I cannot imagine how many threats to him and his team personally. Gees.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2020 09:14 AM (7Y5nA)

470 Babylon Bee: "New AR-15 out that glows blue when liberals are near"
Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2020 09:08 AM




Forged by elven smiths in Rock Island.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 20, 2020 09:14 AM (ejd/p)

471 439 >>I've been disappointed in so many people that I thought were going to be great that turned out not to be. Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2020 09:08 AM (NpAcC)

You said a mouthful. One doesn't have to stick around here long to get whiplash watching the overnight hero-to-goat routine repeated.

Hopes....dashed. New hopes....dashed.
Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 09:10 AM (xK9An)

I have hope-lash

Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2020 09:15 AM (Izzlo)

472 DON'T IMPUGN THE INTEGRITY OF OUR ELECTION SYSTEM!!

LOOKING FOR FRAUD IMPUGNS THE INTEGRITY OF OUR ELECTION SYSTEM!!!

STOP LOOKING FOR FRAUD IN OUR ELECTION SYSTEM!!!

YOU MIGHT FIND FRAUD, AND THAT WOULD IMPUGN INTEGRITY OF OUR ELECTION SYSTEM!!!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2020 09:15 AM (oVJmc)

473 375 My faith remains strong and regardless of the outcome, His will be done, because at the end of the day, we don't know what His plan is, but the way things are looking, there's a section at the end of the good book that pretty much lays things out.
Posted by: stourma at November 20, 2020 08:38 AM (bbYBJ)

Praying right there with you brother.
Posted by: spypeach at November 20, 2020 08:58 AM (Up/Jb)

^^I'm with you. A friend pointed out that it feels like AD70 the destruction of the Temple. God has a plan - I just hope it's the one where Trump wins and we get justice.

Posted by: Iris at November 20, 2020 09:15 AM (lSFe/)

474 Because you were distracted by his sweat, you missed
ALL the content provided in the presser making your side look like
communist aggressors?

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 09:12 AM (Zz0t1)


Kurt was distracted by all of the "work" in front of him at his gloryhole.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 20, 2020 09:16 AM (q6D+1)

475 C'mon, it's Czechoslovakia Germany. We zip in, we pick up the servers, we zip right out
again. We're not going to Moscow. It's Czechoslovakia Germany. It's like going
into Wisconsin.

Posted by: Pvt John Winger at November 20, 2020 09:16 AM (4I/2K)

476 You didn't answer my question. Is Dec 14th written
into the Constitution as the day votes need to be certified? Are any of
the "deadline dates" written into the Constitution?

Posted by: Justsayin' at November 20, 2020 09:05 AM (Fs5vw)

==================
Apologize. The only hard date in the Constitution (that I know of) is Inauguration Day. Congress, by the Constitution, sets the rest of the dates by statute. They did so long ago and are required to certify (by statute) by second Wednesday in December.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at November 20, 2020 09:16 AM (N17yv)

477 @JoeSilverman7

No purchase limits baby!

https://tinyurl.com/y59sa6ka


Ammo sale alert!
Posted by: Tami



A dollar a round? $30 a magazine?

Someone call the cops! I'm being raped!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2020 09:16 AM (Z+uwH)

478 The more they spoke of the integrity of our election system, the faster we recounted our votes.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2020 09:16 AM (oVJmc)

479 Rudy has turned into a punchline for a bad joke
Posted by: Kurt at November 20, 2020 09:04 AM (YsViT)

Because you were distracted by his sweat, you missed ALL the content provided in the presser making your side look like communist aggressors?
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 09:12 AM (Zz0t1)


He was blowing Retardo at the time.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 20, 2020 09:16 AM (GHLVi)

480 While I was not thrilled with Rudy's performance, nor how he looked, I am smart enough to understand that it is a minor distraction and the real deal is in what they are filing and moving through the legal channels. Next time I expect PDT's team to look and sound more polished on cameras.

Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 09:16 AM (zr5Kq)

481 Well rhen, I for one am truly surprised you don't care more for THE EARTH.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2020 09:03 AM (7Y5nA)

I love the Earf! I hate progressive wealth transference schemes.

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 20, 2020 09:16 AM (JFO2v)

482 If the server is in bad hands, why even go forward? You know there won't be a damn thing on it worth looking at and we can just call it the end.

Posted by: Jaimo at November 20, 2020 09:16 AM (/Kt3K)

483 >>How do we know that aliens didn't come down and take the server? Hell, how do we know they didn't use transporter technology to just beam it up? Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 09:14 AM (ZfRYq)

"Karg. This one, he knows too much. Beam down a team and...'reduce' him."

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 09:16 AM (xK9An)

484 I hope (and pray) Sidney Powell is right, but I don't blame people for asking her to produce evidence at this stage. It's getting close to the point where even smoking gun evidence can't be overturned.

I just don't really buy into the argument "she can't tell us because that would tip her hand!". If there is a conspiracy like she's alleging, the people involved are already scrambling and doing everything they can to cover it up.

I'm not making a case that there wasn't heavy fraud (there was), I'm asking why she's basically promising Trump will be made the winner.

Posted by: Blago at November 20, 2020 09:17 AM (gkdnV)

485 63 51 If we could build an atomic bomb in 4 years in 1940, we could build the Apollo program in the 60s, we sure as hell can develop and deploy a fraud proof voting system before 2024.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2020 07:46 AM (5myV4)

We wanted to go to the Moon.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 07:50 AM (ZfRYq)


I've been thinking that the re-elected President Trump should give Elon Musk a contract to design a hard-to-corrupt voting system. I am confident he'd hire good people and design a good system. Problem is, as blaster said, you have to want to do something to really do it well. And none of the Blue States would adopt the proposed hard-to-cheat system. For better or worse, I believe that is within their Constitutional States Rights for Presidential elections.

The saying that the Constitution is not a suicide pact is ever more rapidly being proven false.

Posted by: Gref at November 20, 2020 09:17 AM (AMIL/)

486 DON'T IMPUGN THE INTEGRITY OF OUR ELECTION SYSTEM!!

LOOKING FOR FRAUD IMPUGNS THE INTEGRITY OF OUR ELECTION SYSTEM!!!

STOP LOOKING FOR FRAUD IN OUR ELECTION SYSTEM!!!

YOU MIGHT FIND FRAUD, AND THAT WOULD IMPUGN INTEGRITY OF OUR ELECTION SYSTEM!!!
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2020 09:15 AM (oVJmc)

Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 09:17 AM (zr5Kq)

487 "Only steers and heterosexuals come from Texas, Private Cowboy, and you don't look like a steer, so that kind of narrows it down! Do you have sex with women, Private Cowboy?!"
Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 09:04 AM (xK9An)


I believe the saying is "Only steers and queers come from Oklahoma and I don't see no horns on you, boy."

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 09:17 AM (Zz0t1)

488 *sips cawfee*

Things are sporty here today. I hope the Art lives up to it too.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2020 09:17 AM (7Y5nA)

489 Mornin', folk,

That piece about the 1964 election: I was only 11, too young to know about such things or care. And I certainly never heard Reagan's speech, or paid attention to Goldwater's positions. But as the writer pointed out, the parallels are eerily close.

I remember LBJ ramping up the war after his election, and in about 1967 the media turning against him. And I recall worrying at age 15 during the '68 election, that if Humphrey were to be elected and continue LBJ's policies, *I* might be drafted in a few years. So I remember hoping Nixon would win.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 20, 2020 09:17 AM (rpbg1)

490 >>>"My faith remains strong and regardless of the outcome, His will be done, because at the end of the day, we don't know what His plan is"

If His plan includes China Granpa Stinkfinger, it's enough to turn anyone into an atheist.

Posted by: President Elect Lebron Horowitz at November 20, 2020 09:17 AM (UFgOG)

491 YOU MIGHT FIND FRAUD, AND THAT WOULD IMPUGN INTEGRITY OF OUR ELECTION SYSTEM!!!
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2020 09:15 AM (oVJmc)

I had a gal standing in a puddle hand me a toy sword and I AM NOW THE KING!

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 20, 2020 09:17 AM (JFO2v)

492 Al Gore had 37 days to prove his case.

Trump MUST DO IT NOW!!!!!!!11111!!!!!!!

Jesus fucking Christ........
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 08:39 AM (Zz0t1)

Sorry but all your protestations will not change the fact that we have deadlines here. Once the States certify and the electors vote, it will be to late.

No more waiting for Durham. Act or it will be to late

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2020 09:17 AM (tsZQ+)

493 >>I have hope-lash
Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2020 09:15 AM (Izzlo)

Nice. Stolen.

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 09:17 AM (xK9An)

494
He was blowing Retardo at the time.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 20, 2020 09:16 AM (GHLVi)


Explains a lot, actually.....

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 09:18 AM (Zz0t1)

495
A FRIENDLY REMINDER:

There are a few people here that are coming dangerously close to the line in terms of personal attacks.

Cool it or get a timeout.

That is all.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 09:18 AM (s2VJv)

496 414 18 Hey it's put up or shut up time. This evidence appears now or it is gonna be to late. I have heard a lot of talk, but so far, that is about it. Do I think they stole the election, absolutley, but we gotta prove it or go home. And prove it NOW
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2020 07:37 AM (tsZQ+)
************
We can't wait 2 weeks for the Kraken to come.
Next week is Thanksgiving so I don't think anything is going to happen then as a lot of people take off for the whole week

The clock s running out. So F'ing frustrated.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2020 09:18 AM (NpAcC)

497 Sorry but all your protestations will not change the fact that we have deadlines here. Once the States certify and the electors vote, it will be to late.

No more waiting for Durham. Act or it will be to late
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2020 09:17 AM (tsZQ+)


They have time.

They're 'getting their ducks in a row.'

They will get it done.

I'm pretty sure they're ALL aware how this works, despite the temperature of your panties.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 09:19 AM (Zz0t1)

498 Electronic voting/tabulating has dramatically reduced fraud where it's been used.
================
That is utter bullshit and completely unsupported. Since my business is writing software of exactly this type I believe my opinion has more merit than yours in this area, and you are (again) awarded zero points and everyone is (again) dumber for having read your opinion.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at November 20, 2020 09:19 AM (N17yv)

499 Hopes....dashed. New hopes....dashed.

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 09:10 AM (xK9An)



I have hope-lash

Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2020 09:15 AM (Izzlo)

Episode IV.5 A New Dashed Hope

Posted by: G. Lucas at November 20, 2020 09:19 AM (4I/2K)

500 I hope the Art lives up to it too.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2020 09:17 AM (7Y5nA)

Skidmarks and bacon strips are coming, hope I!

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 20, 2020 09:19 AM (JFO2v)

501 If we could build an atomic bomb in 4 years in 1940, we could build the Apollo program in the 60s, we sure as hell can develop and deploy a fraud proof voting system before 2024.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2020 07:46 AM (5myV4)
++++++++++++++
It's easy. It would take 9 months, maybe 12. I have ideas on how to do it that I think are good and all would be workable quite quickly. The comparison to the Manhattan Project or the Apollo Program are incorrect, I think. Those things were extremely difficult and expensive gambles that required enormous political and economic will to achieve. Improving elections, however, is something is fairly easy and inexpensive that requires enormous political will to achieve.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 09:19 AM (hYcqw)

502 The founding fathers were very a smart bunch. They knew from fraud. And they build the system to deal with it. If there is failure on one level, there are remedies. That is why we are a Republic. Not rule of the mob, which is what Democracy is. A point some want to forget.

Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 09:19 AM (zr5Kq)

503
I hope for Stacey Dash.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 09:19 AM (s2VJv)

504 I believe Tucker has one strike left. He has stayed at Fox. That's one. His BS (but typical of today's journalists) about Powell is two. But he's not out yet.

Not that I'll watch him given the shit station he is on.

But none of that invalidates any of the other things he's said.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 09:20 AM (7X3UV)

505
Things are sporty here today. I hope the Art lives up to it too.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2020 09:17 AM (7Y5nA)


I see a trebuchet and guillotine coming.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 09:20 AM (Zz0t1)

506 I hope for Stacey Dash.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 09:19 AM (s2VJv)


She was in Playboy.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 09:20 AM (Zz0t1)

507 For Detroiters, Monica Palmer from canvassing board in Detroit, is on WJR now. Have a listen.

Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2020 09:20 AM (9UmRs)

508 502 The founding fathers were very a smart bunch. They knew from fraud. And they build the system to deal with it. If there is failure on one level, there are remedies. That is why we are a Republic. Not rule of the mob, which is what Democracy is. A point some want to forget.
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 09:19 AM (zr5Kq)


The problem is not with the system. It's with one particular side that refuses to play by the ground rules. Intentionally so.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 09:20 AM (s2VJv)

509 I love the Earf! I hate progressive wealth transference schemes.

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 20, 2020 09:16 AM (JFO2v)

I knew that! We all love Mother Earth, when shes not being a vengeful bitch and isn't trying to kill us.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2020 09:20 AM (7Y5nA)

510 "Karg. This one, he knows too much. Beam down a team and...'reduce' him."
Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 09:16 AM (xK9An)


Aliens reduced me once.

Once.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 09:20 AM (ZfRYq)

511 Shit man.....I'm starting to get on board with others that you're just a troll.
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 09:06 AM (Zz0t1)


BiNO is defending his trade, I think. He's mentioned in passing once or twice that he's had access to voting machines. Anyone that makes a buck off electronic voting is not going to tolerate much talk about rigged electronic voting.

Posted by: Always Be Lurking at November 20, 2020 09:20 AM (cWLG9)

512 Mornin', folk,

That piece about the 1964 election: I was only 11,

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius



I was 2.
I'll be getting of your lawn toot sweet.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2020 09:21 AM (Z+uwH)

513 If we could build an atomic bomb in 4 years in 1940, we could build the Apollo program in the 60s, we sure as hell can develop and deploy a fraud proof voting system before 2024.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 20, 2020 07:46 AM (5myV4)
++++++++++++++
It's easy. It would take 9 months, maybe 12. I have ideas on how to do it that I think are good and all would be workable quite quickly. The comparison to the Manhattan Project or the Apollo Program are incorrect, I think. Those things were extremely difficult and expensive gambles that required enormous political and economic will to achieve. Improving elections, however, is something is fairly easy and inexpensive that requires enormous political will to achieve.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 09:19 AM (hYcqw)

Depend on how much resistance we get. To this day, and for 50 years, Democrats resist any check and balances on the voting system - ids, signature verification, any[/io]kind of identity verification.

Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 09:21 AM (zr5Kq)

514 People who think computer hacks are easy to trace and "demonstrate" watch too much TV.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at November 20, 2020 09:21 AM (4NtsG)

515 that was close !

Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 09:21 AM (zr5Kq)

516 We've prolly got more military in Germany than the Germans do...we've been "invaded" since '45.

Posted by: BignJames at November 20, 2020 09:21 AM (AwYPR)

517 Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 09:12 AM (Zz0t1)

"Journalists" and trolls not interested in facts or evidence. My goodness; There was some woman on the net yesterday complaining about Giuliani wearing a flashy Mets ring, which "he doesn't deserve to wear" and Kurt has a problem with Giuliani having too much sweat. Very important stuff!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2020 09:21 AM (WkPC9)

518 We could easily solve voter fraud just like we could easily solve illegal immigration. It's just a group of politicians (and voters) control enough levers that won't let it happen.

Posted by: Blago at November 20, 2020 09:21 AM (gkdnV)

519 Detroit had 2 million people at one time. Now, it's 670,000, if that. Crowder joked it's maybe 250,000.

-
Detroit: The Fox News of Michigan

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 20, 2020 09:21 AM (+y/Ru)

520 *Depends
*checks and balances

Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 09:22 AM (zr5Kq)

521
Kurt was distracted by all of the "work" in front of him at his gloryhole.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 20, 2020 09:16 AM (q6D+1)


Pappy always said you never work a day in your life if you love what you're doing.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 09:22 AM (Zz0t1)

522
No I don't believe in the purity of elections. Fraud is everywhere. We can fight the fraud without undermining basic faith in the systems that do work. Electronic voting/tabulating has dramatically reduced fraud where it's been used. Processes are in place to prevent much of the wild claims being made. If hackery took place it should be easy to show.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 09:14 AM (CQ3Qb)


You are so full of shit.

Posted by: Justsayin' at November 20, 2020 09:22 AM (Fs5vw)

523 Depend on how much resistance we get. To this day, and for 50 years, Democrats resist any check and balances on the voting system - ids, signature verification, any kind of identity verification.
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 09:21 AM (zr5Kq)
+++++++++++++
Yes, that's what I was driving it. It isn't that making elections better is actually all that hard (it is difficult and expensive, but nothing earth-shattering), it is that there are titanic political forces arrayed doing anything of the sort.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 09:22 AM (hYcqw)

524 I hope the Art lives up to it too.


Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2020 09:17 AM (7Y5nA)



Carney never disappoints.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 20, 2020 09:22 AM (q6D+1)

525 108 Yeah, laughably this POS expected Sidney to get back with him asap after yesterday's press conference because he's somebody and she should do what he says. Fuck him. He hates Trump and Trump supporters, always has.
Posted by: Kwai Chang Mandelblit at November 20, 2020 07:55 AM (o+znz)

Fox delenda est
Posted by: DOJ is fat and incapable at November 20, 2020 08:06 AM (ONvIw)
_________

Vulpes delenda est in the original. Yes, it's a pedantic point. But it's Latin; it's SUPPOSED to be pedantic.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 09:22 AM (7X3UV)

526 YOU MIGHT FIND FRAUD, AND THAT WOULD IMPUGN INTEGRITY OF OUR ELECTION SYSTEM!!!

Same argument they used re: FBI / CIA abuses..
Stop saying they're dirty !
If you prove they're dirty, people will lose faith in justice !!

Posted by: McCool at November 20, 2020 09:22 AM (0GdRL)

527
If they pull this steal off, the irony is the sophisticated plot that took months and years is not what did it but the totally hack last-minute ballot dumping that did it.

Gevalt.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 09:22 AM (s2VJv)

528
"Journalists" and trolls not interested in facts or evidence. My goodness; There was some woman on the net yesterday complaining about Giuliani wearing a flashy Mets ring, which "he doesn't deserve to wear" and Kurt has a problem with Giuliani having too much sweat. Very important stuff!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2020 09:21 AM (WkPC9)


Because THAT'S what's important.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 09:22 AM (Zz0t1)

529 I see a trebuchet and guillotine coming.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 09:20 AM (Zz0t1)


Nice. Just launch the heads...set them on fire first.
Strike fear into our enemies.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2020 09:23 AM (7Y5nA)

530 "Karg. This one, he knows too much. Beam down a team and...'reduce' him."
Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 09:16 AM (xK9An)

Aliens reduced me once.

Once.
Posted by: blaster


So that's what happened to AtC.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2020 09:23 AM (Z+uwH)

531 Electronic voting/tabulating has dramatically reduced the visibility of fraud where it's been used.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2020 09:23 AM (oVJmc)

532 >>>BiNO is defending his trade, I think. He's mentioned in passing once or twice that he's had access to voting machines. Anyone that makes a buck off electronic voting is not going to tolerate much talk about rigged electronic voting

No. He's been consistently trollish since he showed up several years ago.His concern troll act hasn't varied.

Posted by: President Elect Lebron Horowitz at November 20, 2020 09:23 AM (UFgOG)

533 512 Mornin', folk,

That piece about the 1964 election: I was only 11,

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius



I was 2.
I'll be getting of your lawn toot sweet.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2020 09:21 AM (Z+uwH)

There are many magnificent lawns from my vantage point on this here sidewalk

Posted by: Comrade dude in MI at November 20, 2020 09:23 AM (/6GbT)

534 "What is asserted is that a server controlled by the US government on US
government property was seized by another group, possibly also within
the US government. The most common angle put forth is that the server
was being used to monitor our elections by the CIA."

That Scytl company could be a front ... since Google and BigTech seem to be a front for CIA ops, why is it a surprise our Coup plotters would be involved in nefarious global activities?


The whole coup is internally run, and much is inn Europe, as we see how some of the games played out in Ukraine's "election" (which was probably a US aided coup to replace Putin's guy ... giving leverage to grifters like Biden).


Seth Rich had evidence and he got outed and murdered (allegedly) so Powell does not need to reveal all on Fox News. Hopefully Tucker just had a hissy fit exposing his ego, and maybe he gets back to his normal exposure

Posted by: illiniwek at November 20, 2020 09:23 AM (Cus5s)

535 529 I see a trebuchet and guillotine coming.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 09:20 AM (Zz0t1)


Nice. Just launch the heads...set them on fire first.
Strike fear into our enemies.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2020 09:23 AM (7Y5nA)


This would make for a fun Rube Goldberg machine.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 09:24 AM (ZfRYq)

536 519 Detroit had 2 million people at one time. Now, it's 670,000, if that. Crowder joked it's maybe 250,000.

-
Detroit: The Fox News of Michigan
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 20, 2020 09:21 AM (+y/Ru)


On VJ Day in 1945, Detroit was like the third wealthiest city in the world. The world.

15 years later, they took the poison that acted slowly then all at once...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 09:24 AM (s2VJv)

537 They have time.

They're 'getting their ducks in a row.'

They will get it done.

I'm pretty sure they're ALL aware how this works, despite the temperature of your panties.
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 09:19 AM (Zz0t1)

Unlike your personal attack I am only pointing out facts.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2020 09:24 AM (tsZQ+)

538 Kurt was distracted by all of the "work" in front of him at his gloryhole.

This is about me, isnt it ?

Posted by: Shep at November 20, 2020 09:24 AM (0GdRL)

539 There is something that I have heard now from multiple people including at yesterday's presser that astounds me more than anything else: multiple counting (batches of ballots being counted multiple times).

That should be impossible. Ballots are barcoded. They're anonymous once the envelopes are stripped, but they're still unique. Multiple counting should be impossible. It is trivially easy to avoid it - either in real time or when the database tables of the counts are reconciled and duplicates rejected. There is less than no excuse for that to be possible.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 09:24 AM (hYcqw)

540 145 140 Hungary Proposes Amendment to Protect Children's Biological "Sex" and "Christian" Upbringing
___________

What is their immigration policy?

(Just kidding. I hope.)
Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 08:15 AM (7X3UV)


My mother did not want to teach me Hungarian because of her wartime experience. Now it might've come in handy.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 08:16 AM (s2VJv)
__________

David Goldman, who is no one's idea of a JINO, wrote there was no place in Europe safer for Jews today. History matters, and that means countries change.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 09:24 AM (7X3UV)

541 I see a trebuchet and guillotine coming.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 09:20 AM (Zz0t1)


Nice. Just launch the heads...set them on fire first.
Strike fear into our enemies.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob




Pull brain out spinal column. Pack skull with cotton.
Soak in gasoline. Light. Launch.

A pre-bottle Molotov cocktail.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2020 09:25 AM (Z+uwH)

542 We could easily solve voter fraud just like we could
easily solve illegal immigration. It's just a group of politicians
(and voters) control enough levers that won't let it happen.





Posted by: Blago at November 20, 2020 09:21 AM (gkdnV)


As some smart guy once said, it is nigh impossible to convince a man of something when his very existence depends on him not believing it.

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 20, 2020 09:25 AM (4I/2K)

543 526 "YOU MIGHT FIND FRAUD, AND THAT WOULD IMPUGN INTEGRITY OF OUR ELECTION SYSTEM!!!"

Same argument they used re: FBI / CIA abuses..
Stop saying they're dirty !
If you prove they're dirty, people will lose faith in justice !!
Posted by: McCool at November 20, 2020 09:22 AM (0GdRL)

Completely ignoring the fully public historical record showing us that they're dirty.

The safe assumption to make when the NSA lied about not spying on the American people to Congress was always that the NSA was indeed spying on the American people.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 20, 2020 09:25 AM (Zm+LZ)

544 we could build the Apollo program in the 60s

-
I'm in more of a "To the moon, Alice!" mood.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 20, 2020 09:25 AM (+y/Ru)

545 That is utter bullshit and completely unsupported.
Since my business is writing software of exactly this type I believe my
opinion has more merit than yours in this area, and you are (again)
awarded zero points and everyone is (again) dumber for having read your
opinion.


Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at November 20, 2020 09:19 AM (N17yv)

No it's demonstrably true. The more humans that can be removed from a process the less chance of mistakes or opportunity for fraud exists. The key is having proper processes in place to prevent any bad actors that do have access from doing bad things. Audit trails everywhere, checks and rechecks, multiple witnesses being present at all times, etc. Every state that I've looked at has law dictating all that. I'm willing to bet that whatever irregularities exist on the electronic side can be traced to such processes not being followed. Solve the VoterID and ballot harvesting/forgery problem and most modern election fraud that still exists stops. Although no system is perfect modern voting/tabulating systems are better than the alternative.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 09:25 AM (CQ3Qb)

546 @527

Yes, it's a shitty inversion of Occam's Razor.


But we are where we are because of the plandemic and ancillary knock ops, hatched between the Deep State/Donks and a foreign adversary, China.


So there's that.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 20, 2020 09:25 AM (qEjZn)

547 Depend on how much resistance we get. To this day, and for 50 years, Democrats resist any check and balances on the voting system - ids, signature verification, any[/io]kind of identity verification.
Posted by: runner

_____________

The only hope really is the Supreme Court starts mandating safeguards, but conservative jurists have basically been running on "non-activism" for 50 years. Except when they hand the Left a victory.

I've never really seen an "activist" Supreme Court that ever helped the Right with a single cause.

Posted by: Blago at November 20, 2020 09:25 AM (gkdnV)

548 If you have not listened to the Sidney Powell clip JJ has up top, please go listen.

She IS a national treasure, a TruePatriot.

I'm glad she is on our side.

Posted by: Flyover at November 20, 2020 09:25 AM (Rbu5d)

549 Some background on Mark Malloch-Brown:

https://tinyurl.com/yxdt8epv

Still think it was noteworthy that Sidney and Rudy were naming people at Dominion, and even Soros. They don't seem like the kind of lawyers who would do that without something to back it up. Especially Soros, since that gets the 'vampire recoiling from a cross' type reaction from the MSM and Democrats, and then they go into overdrive to smear whoever mentioned him (see even Fox news).

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 09:25 AM (bDqIh)

550 470 Babylon Bee: "New AR-15 out that glows blue when liberals are near"
Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2020 09:08 AM



Forged by elven smiths in Rock Island


explains why sting has a bayonet lug

Posted by: bilbo baggins at November 20, 2020 09:25 AM (5br8a)

551 Fuck all that and fuck you. How do we know that
aliens didn't come down and take the server? Hell, how do we know they
didn't use transporter technology to just beam it up? Don't question me
you are disloyal to Trump.



Just shut it. Fuck you very much.





Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 09:14 AM (ZfRYq)

Go fuck yourself, "blaster". Sorry I'm not creative enough to come up with a middle-school video game addicts screen name like you.

Posted by: Matt at November 20, 2020 09:26 AM (3J5Re)

552 Babylon Bee: "New AR-15 out that glows blue when liberals are near"
Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2020 09:08 AM
Forged by elven smiths in Rock Island.

There's still a small problem:


"We are also working on a version for progressives that will glow red whenever there is a racist nearby," said the representative. "Unfortunately that seems to be malfunctioning because it only seems to glow around progressives. We're still working on it."

Posted by: Carpe Manana at November 20, 2020 09:26 AM (PbH71)

553 YOU MIGHT FIND FRAUD, AND THAT WOULD IMPUGN INTEGRITY OF OUR ELECTION SYSTEM!!!
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2020 09:15 AM (oVJmc)
++++++++++
Someone at the presser yesterday essentially made this point. Some press whore - I didn't catch his name or the entire question because he didn't have a mic - said something along the lines of "can the American people handle what you're describing?"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 09:26 AM (hYcqw)

554 I believe in paper ballots as the only solution to preventing voter fraud. Count them electronically if you wish, but always be prepared to recount by hand. Moreover, voter registration should never be allowed after a month prior to the election and should require proof of residency. Voter ID should be required. Absentee or mail-in ballots can be allowed but rules should require special scrutiny for anti-fraud purposes.


Any state deviating from any of these rules is expressly doing so for cheat purposes.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at November 20, 2020 09:26 AM (N17yv)

555 534
Seth Rich had evidence and he got outed and murdered (allegedly) so Powell does not need to reveal all on Fox News. Hopefully Tucker just had a hissy fit exposing his ego, and maybe he gets back to his normal exposure

Posted by: illiniwek at November 20, 2020 09:23 AM (Cus5s)


Tucker is just an example that was shown two weeks ago. The media does not run the election process. Nor does Tucker get to determine the veracity of Ms. Powell's case.

It will happen and all will be revealed in the manner and venue appropriate.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 09:26 AM (s2VJv)

556
So that's what happened to AtC.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2020 09:23 AM (Z+uwH)


Thankfully, they missed the boobs.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 09:27 AM (Zz0t1)

557 I see Brian is still riding his Dominion Brand suction cup Dildo.

Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2020 09:27 AM (OTvlX)

558 No. Fuck you!

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 09:27 AM (xK9An)

559 Pull brain out spinal column. Pack skull with cotton.
Soak in gasoline. Light. Launch.

A pre-bottle Molotov cocktail.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2020 09:25 AM (Z+uwH)

Next MOME.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 20, 2020 09:27 AM (7Y5nA)

560
Unlike your personal attack I am only pointing out facts.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 20, 2020 09:24 AM (tsZQ+)


Personal attack?

Oy vey......

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 09:27 AM (Zz0t1)

561 That should be impossible. Ballots are barcoded. They're anonymous once the envelopes are stripped, but they're still unique. Multiple counting should be impossible. It is trivially easy to avoid it - either in real time or when the database tables of the counts are reconciled and duplicates rejected. There is less than no excuse for that to be possible.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 09:24 AM (hYcqw)


Again, to prevent dupes, you would have to WANT to prevent dupes. Remind me to tell you of work I did for a school system that shall not be named, but rhymes with the school district for our nation's capital.

And what happened when I presented them with the dupes in their system.

But to the point, here is a thing we have evidence of - we have the specs and the manual for this product, and the "feature" to be able to rerun ballots is known. It's there because the people who buy voting machines wanted it there.



Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 09:27 AM (ZfRYq)

562 The problem is not with the system. It's with one particular side that refuses to play by the ground rules. Intentionally so.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 09:20 AM (s2VJv)

Absolutely, but when I say "system" that includes ALL OF IT - meaning all branches, meaning the courts, where Constitutional challenges are heard, the Supreme Court. I am not saying that they will be successful, I don't know. Bush V Gore was heard by the USSC. The avenues are there. In the back of my mind is Robert; I am bothered by how Roberts shaped the court in the last 20 years.

Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 09:27 AM (zr5Kq)

563


BLASTER and those flinging turds at each other. Stop the personal attacks.

LAST WARNING.



Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 09:28 AM (s2VJv)

564 I would be more skeptical of even the craziest shit been thrown around by our side, but the other has spent 4+ years flinging anything and everything at the wall to see if it'll stick. So bring on the crazy, whatever works.

Posted by: jhawk90 at November 20, 2020 09:28 AM (/ZYFC)

565 I just finished a lengthy history book about Europe 1600-1650. Takeaways:

1) The things they cared passionately about 400 years ago (enough to die for) seem trivial viewed from 2020.

2) A member of Europe's governing elite in 1620 would find 2020 Europe to be so strange as to be unrecognizable.

I wonder if the world in 2420 will have been transformed equally as much.

It can be useful to take a really long view.



Posted by: mnw at November 20, 2020 09:28 AM (Cssks)

566
Sorry I'm not creative enough to come up with a middle-school video game addicts screen name like you.
Posted by: Matt


Good one.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 20, 2020 09:28 AM (dgQqG)

567 185
Mark Zuckerberg looks like a homosexual sex robot.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 08:24 AM (s2VJv)
__________

Whatever it is, it's ain't human.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 09:28 AM (7X3UV)

568 They have time.
They're 'getting their ducks in a row.'
They will get it done.


I fear that the plot line is too complex for most to understand... kinda like Spy Gate
Made total sense to those of us who followed it
but too easy for MSM to dismiss.

Posted by: McCool at November 20, 2020 09:28 AM (0GdRL)

569 I Know Sidney Powell. She Is Telling the Truth
https://tinyurl.com/y2xzlg6p

---

A very heartening read.

Sidney Powell is an Evangelical Christian as well as a Texan.

The left has no clue who they're messing with.

They need a serious come to Jesus moment.

Otherwise, they'll have all of eternity to reflect, and rage.

Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2020 09:28 AM (RU4sa)

570 BiNO is defending his trade, I think. He's
mentioned in passing once or twice that he's had access to voting
machines. Anyone that makes a buck off electronic voting is not going
to tolerate much talk about rigged electronic voting.

Posted by: Always Be Lurking at November 20, 2020 09:20 AM (cWLG9)

I used to work full-time in the elections world but currently only have an adjacent role. I have access to Dominion voting machines since they're used in LA and know a lot about them and the processes in place for election day.
Louisiana is in an odd place with these machines. We were supposed to go 100% electronic after Dominion won the contract a couple years ago but there was a dispute over the bid and it has to be redone. So for the past couple years the Dominion machines are only used in Early Voting. They go back to the analog machines on Election Day. Early voting for the runoff starts today, by the way, with the Dominion systems.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 09:29 AM (CQ3Qb)

571 I hope we don't get Ottoman art today.

Posted by: spypeach at November 20, 2020 09:29 AM (Up/Jb)

572 Go fuck yourself, "blaster". Sorry I'm not creative enough to come up with a middle-school video game addicts screen name like you.
Posted by: Matt at November 20, 2020 09:26 AM (3J5Re)


And, yet, not a single shred of evidence that aliens did NOT take the SCYTL server.

Unbeliever.

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 09:29 AM (ZfRYq)

573 >>567 185 Mark Zuckerberg looks like a homosexual sex robot. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 08:24 AM (s2VJv)
__________

Whatever it is, it's ain't human.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 09:28 AM (7X3UV)

Vegan body-odor option: $300.

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 09:29 AM (xK9An)

574 All the information about Dominion and Smartmatic along with other actors involved is out there. You don't even have to dig for it.
No, I'm not posting where it can be found. It's obvious there are glowies and other bad actors who monitor and even comment on this site.
The Horde is smarter than them. There are more than enough bread crumbs to follow. Do you have the will to sit down for an hour and figure it out how and where to find these primary sourced documents? (No the MSM is rarely a primary source after Obama threw his hat in the ring in 2007).

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 20, 2020 09:30 AM (jvld5)

575 No. Fuck you!
Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 09:27 AM (xK9An)


Piss up a rope, Zod !!! You ain't the boss of me !!!

What are we talking about ?

Posted by: Always Be Lurking at November 20, 2020 09:30 AM (cWLG9)

576 * drops monkey fist of poo *

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 20, 2020 09:30 AM (4I/2K)

577 In ancient Rome, people voted by going to one place for one candidate and to another place for the other. Any cheating would've had to be a Weekend At Bernie's thing.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 20, 2020 09:30 AM (+y/Ru)

578 The only hope really is the Supreme Court starts mandating safeguards....

Posted by: Blago at November 20, 2020 09:25 AM (gkdnV)

They will absolutely not do that. They will leave that to the legislative branch. That is what Roberts' court historically been doing. And in this case, I think it's for the best.

Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 09:30 AM (zr5Kq)

579 I believe in paper ballots as the only solution to preventing voter fraud. Count them electronically if you wish, but always be prepared to recount by hand. Moreover, voter registration should never be allowed after a month prior to the election and should require proof of residency. Voter ID should be required. Absentee or mail-in ballots can be allowed but rules should require special scrutiny for anti-fraud purposes. ...
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at November 20, 2020 09:26 AM (N17yv)
++++++++++++++
This would go a long a way. What would go further:
- Destroy the voter rolls -12 months from the next midterm election. They are retained in archive for validation of the prior vote if needed, but purged from active status.
- You have until 60 days prior to the election to register. No more massive ballot surpluses.
- No more motor voter. You have to *want* to vote.
- No more vote-by-mail. You can request an absentee ballot if you have a reason to do so.
- Voter ID
- Paper ballots
- Scrutineers at every level, with a killswitch on proceedings if they see something janky
- Mandatory life sentences for election officials enabling fraud
- Ballot retention until -60 days from the next election
- Electronic tabulation systems, if used (and I think it is a good idea) must maintain an audit trail and reject duplicates

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 09:30 AM (hYcqw)

580
No I don't believe in the purity of elections. Fraud is everywhere. We can fight the fraud without undermining basic faith in the systems that do work. Electronic voting/tabulating has dramatically reduced fraud where it's been used. Processes are in place to prevent much of the wild claims being made. If hackery took place it should be easy to show.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 09:14 AM (CQ3Qb)

As I said in the last thread, I wish they'd search for fingerprints on those suspicious ballots. I think that would tell us a lot.

Posted by: Justsayin' at November 20, 2020 09:31 AM (Fs5vw)

581 I hope we don't get Ottoman art today.

Posted by: spypeach at November 20, 2020 09:29 AM (Up/Jb)


Intercourse the Turks. No one wants to look at their crap.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 20, 2020 09:31 AM (q6D+1)

582 Although no system is perfect modern voting/tabulating systems are better than the alternative.
----

I don't know. Even setting aside the Dominion/Scytl stuff, everything I've seen about voting machines these last couple of weeks has been horrifying.

- Misplaced flash drives
- Windows machines from Best Buy keeping the tallies
- AI signature matching that can be turned off

The only reason you'd even consider using the computers is if you still had the physical ballots and manual count to compare with. And at that point, what are the computers buying you?

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 20, 2020 09:31 AM (sGnvY)

583 Fuckerborg is a eunuch.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at November 20, 2020 09:31 AM (Zz0t1)

584 No it's demonstrably true.


Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 09:25 AM (CQ3Qb)

================
Again, you spout absolutely ridiculous opinion and only word vomit follows. You literally have no idea what you are talking about. No evidence exists to support your view and my entire professional experience is that software starts life as garbage in, garbage out and some systems never graduate. Scanning software and tabulating software is immensely complicated and easy to fuck up. This, sadly, I really know. So, put in familiar terms, LOLGF.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at November 20, 2020 09:31 AM (N17yv)

585 >>Piss up a rope, Zod !!! You ain't the boss of me !!!
Posted by: Always Be Lurking at November 20, 2020 09:30 AM (cWLG9)

I am the fucking boss of you! Kneel! Fuck and piss! Fuck!

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 09:31 AM (xK9An)

586 I hope that Sidney Powell as some police protection and the other lawyers too.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2020 09:31 AM (WkPC9)

587 565 I just finished a lengthy history book about Europe 1600-1650. Takeaways:

1) The things they cared passionately about 400 years ago (enough to die for) seem trivial viewed from 2020.

2) A member of Europe's governing elite in 1620 would find 2020 Europe to be so strange as to be unrecognizable.

I wonder if the world in 2420 will have been transformed equally as much.

It can be useful to take a really long view.



Posted by: mnw at November 20, 2020 09:28 AM (Cssks)

That seems like an odd perspective. That was the period of the 30 years war. Catholic France and the Ottomans weren't helping the Protestant North Germans out of the goodness of their hearts. The conflicts are superficially different but the actors and their interests are fundamentally similar.

The peasants are just unfortunate victims of the whole affair.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 20, 2020 09:32 AM (Zm+LZ)

588 Nood angel

Posted by: Iris at November 20, 2020 09:32 AM (lSFe/)

589 write your congressman
share the info far and wide
pray pray pray pray pray

/haiku

Posted by: Shenanigans at November 20, 2020 09:32 AM (ZR7kf)

590 Oops. Paste fail.

Posted by: Justsayin' at November 20, 2020 09:32 AM (Fs5vw)

591 Again, to prevent dupes, you would have to WANT to prevent dupes. ...
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 09:27 AM (ZfRYq)
++++++++++++
Yes, and this is the crux of the problem as many have pointed out (including me). It is astounding that elections officials refuse to put in to place even the *simplest* fraud-reduction measures. Well, as a correction, I *wish* it was astounding...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 09:33 AM (hYcqw)

592 Fuck Mark Zuckerberg in his sepia-toned rubbery sphincter with the lifelike "body-warmth" element upgrade!

Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 09:33 AM (xK9An)

593 My view on FOX News, Tucker and beltway conservatives is they're preparing to settle into their familiar role as the ineffective opposition. A role they're most comfortable in. Pretend to be fighting something while keeping ratings high enough to make good money and sell the same old book written a hundred times before.


I think they're mistaken if they think that's how this is going to all play out.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 20, 2020 09:33 AM (4thlk)

594 The only hope really is the Supreme Court starts mandating safeguards....

Posted by: Blago at November 20, 2020 09:25 AM (gkdnV)


They will absolutely not do that. They will leave that to the legislative branch. That is what Roberts' court historically been doing. And in this case, I think it's for the best.
Posted by: runner

_____________

Then nothing changes, most of these cities are dark blue and have zero incentive to change anything.

So we'll have another generation of a fraudulent Republic where real voters are no longer part of the process, but "muh principles".

Posted by: Blago at November 20, 2020 09:34 AM (gkdnV)

595 586 I hope that Sidney Powell as some police protection and the other lawyers too.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2020 09:31 AM (WkPC9)

---

I truly believe that the Lord is covering her 6.

We all just need to keep praying for her safety...and that we will continue to see divine justice at play here.

Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2020 09:34 AM (RU4sa)

596 December 8th is the deadline.

That's the day that, if the state's secretary of state has not certified--or under court order the certification is on hold-- then the legislature MUST pick electors.

Or none will be received by the college.

That is, federal law requires the electors slate be chosen by the close of business that day.

Posted by: RoyalOil at November 20, 2020 09:34 AM (aO8Gd)

597 For those wondering, I have used this screen name for, let's see, decades. Yes, actual decades. Nigh on to my full 29 years.

And, coincidentally, one place I used it was playing Quake multi-player. The best video game evAr fight me!

But, anyway, I used it as a screenname because it was my callsign in the Army. When I was busy defending us from the Commies in Europe.

Just a little history.

The more you know....

Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 09:34 AM (ZfRYq)

598 Can I call dibs on Rich Lowry ?

Posted by: Or is he taken at November 20, 2020 09:34 AM (sRR1j)

599 Posted by: SMH at November 20, 2020 09:34 AM (RU4sa)

Yes; We were praying for that this morning.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 20, 2020 09:36 AM (WkPC9)

600 The main overarching problem is the GOP, as usual, the reason we are here is because they have abdicated their responsibility in ensuring fair and honest election.


The Donks have been cheating since before Taminy Hall, and except for whine about, the GOP has done very little to stop or oppose it.


Hell the GOP in GA essentially handed over their elections to Stacey Abrams.


Until the GOP finds their collective balls to stop the fraud, it will continue.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 20, 2020 09:36 AM (qEjZn)

601 I am the fucking boss of you! Kneel! Fuck and piss! Fuck!
Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 09:31 AM (xK9An)


Well - shit.

*kicks rocks*

*kneels*

Posted by: Always Be Lurking at November 20, 2020 09:39 AM (cWLG9)

602 >>I truly believe that the Lord is covering her 6.

We all just need to keep praying for her safety...and that we will continue to see divine justice at play here.



Completely agree, SMH

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 09:39 AM (bDqIh)

603 Count me as one that thinks the higher the tech, the easier it is to rig the election. And people just seem to accept it because only a handful of people know what's going on.

I remember going to an ATM and it had the balance of what was clearly the wrong customer. I asked a teller at the attached bank and they said yea, it's spitting out the wrong data. This is like the largest bank in the US with an IT budget that dwarfs anything like Dominion.

If you had paper ballots, made people vote in person, show an ID and like dipped a finger in ink, you'd probably solve 99% of this better than any sort of trillion dollar .gov electronic voting system

Posted by: Blago at November 20, 2020 09:40 AM (gkdnV)

604 I've asked this before but got willowed:

I have no personal military experience, but I do know that people with varying viewpoints and opinions have to come together to carry out an objective. How does the military turn a bunch of people into a cohesive group?

And can we do that here, so that we are attacking the enemy rather than each other?

Posted by: President-elect Emmie at November 20, 2020 09:42 AM (4JM5Y)

605 Relatively speaking, elections in their simplest form: one ballot / one box / counted with witnesses present is an honest endeavor.

The 2000 election triggered the change to 'electronic' elections which are only as honest as the officials overseeing them. The tipping point was when 'closed source' electronic ballot systems were put into the mix.

The problem is not so much the hardware, it's the software with ZERO transparency, AND hardware (voting machines) NOT ISOLATED from the internet.

MI is the key example of all the negative factors coming into play...give this a listen and get back to us.

https://tinyurl.com/yyrpw2t4

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 20, 2020 09:43 AM (W+kMI)

606 604 Of course I got willowed again.....

Posted by: President-elect Emmie at November 20, 2020 09:44 AM (4JM5Y)

607 I think we're the audience for Gulliani and company, not the MSM, not the courts. And that goes for the entire process.

50-75 million who believe their vote was stolen is a huge problem for the Tricky Ds and their media allies. If Gulliani convinces us, and the MSM's reaction to all this is a 'tell' that has me more than half way there, it was stolen then Trump is only nominally in charge at that point. And the Tricky Ds know that what follows can't be controlled. Period.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at November 20, 2020 09:45 AM (DePyg)

608 And can we do that here, so that we are attacking the enemy rather than each other?
Posted by: President-elect Emmie at November 20, 2020 09:42 AM (4JM5Y)


Can't be done - we don't have the same goals or desired outcomes. Some want to save the GOP, some want to destroy it. Some want smaller govt. Others want bigger - a more ordered society rather than less. We argue because we are not, when you dig down, all on the same team. Our only unifier is a dislike of the DNC. Thats not enough to build cohesion around.

Posted by: Always Be Lurking at November 20, 2020 09:47 AM (cWLG9)

609 604 - President-elect Emmie

The simplest answer: it's a "trust-building" process.

An effective combat unit is one where the guy looks at his buddies and *knows* "he's got my back".

Trust...in your peers, your equipment, your leaders (NCO and Officers), and clarity of mission.

That's the Cliff's Notes version of a *very* extensive process that's been tuned for a couple of thousand years.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 20, 2020 09:50 AM (W+kMI)

610 Thank you for the responses, Always Be Lurking and CPT. Charles.

I just think the Horde is smart enough to avoid circular firing squads, so I hope we can work together.

Posted by: President-elect Emmie at November 20, 2020 09:52 AM (4JM5Y)

611 How does the military turn a bunch of people into a cohesive group?

Push-ups and lack of sleep, then you break down the task into small bites and noone cares about the big picture

Posted by: Jean at November 20, 2020 09:53 AM (jd96/)

612 >>I just think the Horde is smart enough to avoid circular firing squads, so I hope we can work together.


Same

Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 09:54 AM (bDqIh)

613 I think trying to track down "Mr Big" or the mysterious cabal at the center of this election fraud is a mistake, because he/they don't exist.
I'm sure there's a group, a "steering committee", that works together and coordinates with each other, but there's no formal meetings, published minutes, or written plans of action. They're not that dumb.
Rather, I think what we are seeing is the efforts of a bunch of different groups trying to "win" the election for their guy. They're stumbling over each other, which makes it all the more obvious. When you have 100%+ of registered voters in a precinct turn out to vote AND a truckload of one-candidate ballots AND people marking wrong dates on mail-in ballots, that tells me you've got more than one actor with their thumb on the scale.

If they were coordinating, they would do just enough to win.

They are the Gang That Couldn't Cheat Straight.

Posted by: p-squared at November 20, 2020 10:08 AM (0CzL1)

614 Achievement Unlocked: U.S. Navy Destroyer Shoots Down ICBM for the First Time

This is the legacy of the late great Jerry Pournelle and folks at LLNL as well as Reagans. Because he and they convinced Reagan it would work.

Far seeing men. There are few of those today.

Posted by: Loki, watering thoroughly The Tree of Liberty at November 20, 2020 10:17 AM (KqiMr)

615 I wonder if the world in 2420 will have been transformed equally as much.

It can be useful to take a really long view.



Posted by: mnw at November 20, 2020 09:28 AM (Cssks)

************

BeeDee, BeeDee, BeeDee.

I'll go find Buck and ask him. He's got the hots for Col. Deering right now, so I'm not certain he'll give us an answer right away.

Posted by: Twiki at November 20, 2020 10:32 AM (xxG/v)

616 This person is a PA legislator...

@valgaydos

UPDATE: At 10 pm last night we were informed that Dominion Voter Systems backed out of testifying before the House State Govt Comm. There will be a House press conf at 10 am TODAY to address Dominion's failure to appear.
Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2020 08:55 AM (cF8AT)

Obviously only so Trump has this excuse, I mean nothing to see here. Oh and all of the Dominion employees scrubbing their employment history isn't anything either. Just a coincidence.

Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at November 20, 2020 10:35 AM (+2xjH)

617 Just remember, whether it's companies like Chik-Fil-A, journalists like Tucker Carlson, etc.,

Put not your trust in Princes...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy 🍺 at November 20, 2020 10:36 AM (ZSK0i)

618 454 @JoeSilverman7

No purchase limits baby!

https://tinyurl.com/y59sa6ka


Ammo sale alert!
Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2020 09:12 AM (cF8AT)

Wow, buck a piece for 55gr... that's crazy.

Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at November 20, 2020 10:49 AM (+2xjH)

619 No I don't believe in the purity of elections. Fraud is everywhere. We can fight the fraud without undermining basic faith in the systems that do work. Electronic voting/tabulating has dramatically reduced fraud where it's been used. Processes are in place to prevent much of the wild claims being made. If hackery took place it should be easy to show.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 09:14 AM (CQ3Qb)

We cannot be talking about the processes that have several distinct people having to do specific tasks in specific order perfectly in order to accumulate totals accurately. Oh and they are only going to do it a couple times a year... the steps described in Georgia boggles the mind and are as close to rube goldberg as they can be. When you have groups of people doing something semi annually and/or annually it is plain stupid to implement that complicated a procedure.
This doesn't even have to be fraud, it's just dumb. what makes it fraud is it all going one way, every time.
Suspend belief all you want.. It will not be convincing to me. All the evidence you sa need to be prodused? Well I need that to convince me it's not dirty, wthout it I will never consider this election clean.

Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at November 20, 2020 10:56 AM (+2xjH)

620 The most egregious example of this was none other than Tucker Carlson himself. I'm not saying Carlson is supposed to go "rah-rah, go Trump!" for him to gain my approval. But for him to not recognize the purpose of yesterday's conference is either stupidity or something else. And he's no dope. I guess now we know why he didn't jump off the rapidly sinking wreckage of Fox News. Well, to hell with him.

Booooooooooommmmm!!!

Posted by: Gilded at November 20, 2020 10:59 AM (wGA+o)

621 It's hard to stay hopeful when even Tucker Carlson has shown he's on the other side.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 20, 2020 08:53 AM (V2Yro)

I was warming you guys about Cucker Tarlson since election night. I'm completely unsurprised he's joined his voice to the chorus of Democrats demanding Powell either waste her time or expose her witnesses to the Antifa terrorist group.

Posted by: trev006 at November 20, 2020 11:02 AM (PILQw)

622 The entire Republican Party is one huge backstabbing bitch -- with the sole exception of PDT and a few outcasts who have stuck with him.

(And if you're one if those who preen themselves on saying that PDT is not a really Republican, then the entire GOP is a Quisling asshoe. With NO exceptions.

Burn down the Republican Party. It PDT goes, they all go. FOREVER.

GOP thinks you are such a stupid fvck that you will come back.

Posted by: Gilded at November 20, 2020 11:09 AM (wGA+o)

623 Tucker is dead to me.

I still stuck with him even when I ignored the rest of Faux. Now I will find something else to do in the 5 oclock hour.

Maria Bartiromo: How did you respond to Tucker Carlson? Did you get angry with the show because they texted you and asked you to provide evidence of what youre alleging?

Sidney Powell: No, I didnt get angry with the request to provide evidence. in fact I sent an affidavit to Tucker that I had not even attached to a pleading yet to help him understand the situation and I offered him another witness who could explain the mathematics of the statistical evidence far better than I can. Im not really a numbers person. But he was very insulting, demanding and rude and I told him not to contact me again in those terms.

Posted by: Loki, watering thoroughly The Tree of Liberty at November 20, 2020 11:11 AM (KqiMr)

624 Maybe Tucker's jealous that Sidney Powell has become more of a star than he is.

Posted by: President-Elect Optimizer at November 20, 2020 11:17 AM (hOOi9)

625 Sefton, how much are you getting paid to spread this shit? What you are talking about is tossing millions of legal votes to steal a legitimate democratic election. You should be ashamed.

There is no kraken; there is no evidence at all. If there was you'd have seen it by now. You have plenty of emotion, but that's all you have. Ridiculous conspiracy theories aren't going to get it done.

Posted by: Peter Zenger at November 20, 2020 11:24 AM (WWHxh)

626 I've been warning about Vichy toucan forever.

Don't let GOP swindle you with a lie that this is something particular to Vichy Carlson. Like the lie they sell about Roberts, Romney, Bush, etc.

The problem is 100% the Republic Party that the Vichy toucan fronts for.

The voters -- against the will of the GOP! -- won the election. But GOP has been in on the coup from day 1.

GOP has murdered the Republic right before your eyes.

What would every Dem congress bribe-eater and statehouse grifter be doing all day every day if the situation were reversed?

Posted by: Gilded at November 20, 2020 11:35 AM (wGA+o)

627 Happy birthday, JJ!

Posted by: Gilded at November 20, 2020 11:36 AM (wGA+o)

628 I don't believe Sidney Powell. Not at all. I know she's peddling bullshit. I have no objection, in principle, though because (1) massive, election-changing garden-variety vote fraud did occur, and (2) after 4+ years of peddling grand Russia conspiracy theories to undermine Trump, Biden and the Democrats deserve a taste of their own medicine in double measure.

What I do have a problem with is that Powell's sensational, fact-free bullshit serves to discredit the actual vote fraud that did occur and undermines the rest of Trump's case. It also makes it much easier for Dems and the media to dismiss concerns about vote fraud going forward.

Those that excuse Powell's inability to offer any public evidence of her fantastic claims on the ground she's saving it for the court case would be wise to recognize that the Trump strategy is *not* to win in the courts (or even seriously contest the results in court), but to pressure state legislatures through public opinion--meaning, if Powell had the goods, she would have presented them in the public. Anyone familiar with the election and certification timelines understands this.

Posted by: Red Horseshoe at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (chL32)

629 "How virtue signaling and weaponizing racial discourse sabotaged the goals of the civil rights movement."

The first reply by Dunnyveg nails it. So here it is.

"The civil rights movement was a type of fraud called bait and switch. A la Hegel and the progressive movement, the civil rights movement was sold to well-meaning Americans as a chance to finally give blacks a helping hand by including them in our civilization. It was about raising blacks up to our level by thoroughly immersing them in our society. By now, even the semi-sentient are aware that this isn't true; the civil rights movement is really an excuse to destroy American civilization on the grounds that it is "offensive" to blacks and others, which is why Biden voters are destroying our history as we speak."

Civil Rights was just legalized racism, but against Whites. And most people knew this and to those who did not, affirmative action and busing proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt.

Posted by: Based&RedPilled at November 20, 2020 01:31 PM (jsNGa)

630 "This is mostly pro bono. "


Hey I do that too!

Posted by: the Toobinator at November 20, 2020 07:13 PM (ddIir)

631 Thanks, J.J. for standing up for Sidney Powell. I think she is a woman of integrity.

And on another note, of course Cuomo can say Mom isn't coming on Thanksgiving, but nobody actually believes that. She'll be driven up from wherever she lives by the
NY State police and brought in the back door of the Governor's mansion in Albany, because as with all these other elitist clowns the rules are for them not for the people they feel they rule over.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 24, 2020 08:25 AM (WkPC9)

632 Welcome new posters. I hope your enjoy your shift at trying to attack J.J. and demoralize the regular posters.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 24, 2020 08:27 AM (WkPC9)

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