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As New Polls Show Biden Cruising to Victory, Two Polling Experts Say the Polls Are Wrong
I'm not going to talk about the new polls, though I'll mention a new ABC polls that claims Biden is ahead in Wisconsin... by 17 points.
That's silly. Obviously, the media, the academy, and corporations have made this is a viciously hostile environment for self-declared Trump supporters. So a lot of people will simply not talk to a pollster, or lie when they do.Researchers have also identified self-screening as the major contributing factor to the polling failures during the 2016 election cycle. For example, distrust of pollsters also leads to lower response rates for Trump supporters. Rasmussen finds that 17 percent of likely U.S. voters who "strongly approve" of the job Trump is doing say they are less likely to let others know how they intend to vote in the upcoming election. By comparison, only 8 percent of those who "strongly disapprove" of the president's performance say the same.So the polls are off by...9%? A friend keeping tabs on the "EV" -- the early vote -- in different swing states updates me that the GOP is closing the Democrat lead in EV's.
2016 EV Gap was 45,072. Yesterday gap was 53,834. Today is 49,660. Jon Ralston says Dems should be worried.Ralston is a very partisan Democrat so that's interesting. Again, it it Democrats and their media Get Out the Vote allies who pushed Democrats to vote early and vote by mail. Republicans have pushed the idea of in-person voting. And the Democrat ballot lead is falling day by day, and closing in on 2016's level. Update: Florida's Early Vote gap is shrinking down to nothing by the minute.
GOP was 2.16% off their 2016 EV gap this morning. And it's now 1.63%. This is just wild to watch in real time.
It just occurred to me that most of the NeverTrumpers have by now reclassified themselves as independents. Or Democrats. So that Republican vote does not contain many defectors.
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Polls are for Strippers.
Posted by: garrett at October 28, 2020 01:20 PM (EM4Pb)
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2nd
Posted by: Dark Helmet at October 28, 2020 01:21 PM (Oka5v)
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So the polls are off by...9%?
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Well, if they're intentionally wrong, they could be off by 20 and no one would realize it.
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Well, if they're intentionally wrong, they could be off by 20 and no one would realize it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 01:21 PM (NWM+b)
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Dang I read the content.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at October 28, 2020 01:21 PM (jk1kv)
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Top 10!
Posted by: Greyman27 at October 28, 2020 01:21 PM (RKLPC)
Posted by: filbert at October 28, 2020 01:21 PM (NiXyF)
Posted by: WitchDoktor at October 28, 2020 01:21 PM (4k/Uz)
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I've been thinking about this; are we in a bubble? We can't fathom anyone voting for Biden, but isn't it the same way the Democrats were about Nixon? Could we be wrong? I can't wait for this shit to be over.
Posted by: stourma at October 28, 2020 01:21 PM (bbYBJ)
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True Lovers of Science would round that up to 10%
Posted by: garrett at October 28, 2020 01:21 PM (EM4Pb)
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Ignore the polls and vote.
Posted by: Guzalot at October 28, 2020 01:21 PM (Rz36l)
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Why ain't he ahead by 50..huh?!?
Posted by: BignJames at October 28, 2020 01:22 PM (AwYPR)
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Weeks not over. Trick or treat, mother fuckers!
Posted by: Max Power at October 28, 2020 01:22 PM (q177U)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at October 28, 2020 01:22 PM (Zz0t1)
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In B4 the Pole Troll...
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 28, 2020 01:22 PM (416wY)
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The polls are that skewed intentionally so the Dems can claim Trump cheated when he wins 37 states.
Posted by: Greyman27 at October 28, 2020 01:22 PM (RKLPC)
Posted by: Abe Lincoln at October 28, 2020 01:22 PM (FPur3)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Is A Cockeyed Optimist! at October 28, 2020 01:22 PM (E8fen)
Posted by: Dr. T at October 28, 2020 01:22 PM (sUh98)
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I think they're flat-out cheating on the polls. The more Trump throws at Biden, the higher Biden runs in the polls? They're lying. In unison.
Posted by: squid_hunt at October 28, 2020 01:22 PM (B0mGw)
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Biden events draw a max of 25 people with at least 12 of them being media.
Trump draws 18,000 3 times a day in a single state.
Yeah. Biden is leading with voters.
Trump draws 18,000 3 times a day in a single state.
Yeah. Biden is leading with voters.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at October 28, 2020 01:22 PM (Zz0t1)
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A friend keeping tabs on the "EV" -- the early vote -- in different swing states updates me that the GOP is closing the Democrat lead in EV's.
2016 EV Gap was 45,072.
Yesterday gap was 53,834. Today is 49,660.
Jon Ralston says Dems should be worried.
Ralston is a very partisan Democrat so that's interesting.
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It's an imperfect science, but it's better than polls.
Democrats are in a hole they can't get out of already in FL and they're pretty much there in NC.
Trump is going to win.
2016 EV Gap was 45,072.
Yesterday gap was 53,834. Today is 49,660.
Jon Ralston says Dems should be worried.
Ralston is a very partisan Democrat so that's interesting.
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It's an imperfect science, but it's better than polls.
Democrats are in a hole they can't get out of already in FL and they're pretty much there in NC.
Trump is going to win.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 01:23 PM (NWM+b)
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Poles are for Strippers.
Polls are for Whores.
Posted by: Abe Lincoln at October 28, 2020 01:22 PM (FPur3)
I want that one a t-shirt.
Polls are for Whores.
Posted by: Abe Lincoln at October 28, 2020 01:22 PM (FPur3)
I want that one a t-shirt.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 28, 2020 01:23 PM (sTnpX)
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It's time to ban polling and polls, but not Poles.
Posted by: ShainS at October 28, 2020 01:23 PM (H8Mi4)
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If the Bidet +17 was close to true, PDT wouldn't have been in Wisconsin yesterday "Freezing His Ass Off"
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 28, 2020 01:23 PM (asQlL)
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The polls stopped being "scientific and accurate" long ago.
They're still "scientific" in the sense that their skewing for political effect is totally by design.
But they are in no sense representative of the true positions of the population.
(There are exceptions to this . . . Rasmussen and Trafalgar seem to be mostly legit. The rest are agitprop garbage.)
They're still "scientific" in the sense that their skewing for political effect is totally by design.
But they are in no sense representative of the true positions of the population.
(There are exceptions to this . . . Rasmussen and Trafalgar seem to be mostly legit. The rest are agitprop garbage.)
Posted by: filbert at October 28, 2020 01:23 PM (NiXyF)
Posted by: Jane D'Oh at October 28, 2020 01:23 PM (ptqGC)
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It's comical to understand that polls are driven by people who will answer the phone when an unknown number shows in the caller ID box.
Posted by: Moron Robbie's 503 cubic inches say thank you for your windmills and solar panels at October 28, 2020 01:23 PM (SDcEG)
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PROGDA is lying to us. That's all they do.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - A vote for Biden is a vote for the ChiComs at October 28, 2020 01:23 PM (HaL55)
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I think it was USC who found out that asking about voting preferences of family and friends ends up more predictive than asking about personal voting preferences.
In that measure, they said, Trump's on track to win again.
In that measure, they said, Trump's on track to win again.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 01:24 PM (NWM+b)
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19 I think they're flat-out cheating on the polls. The more Trump throws at Biden, the higher Biden runs in the polls? They're lying. In unison.
Posted by: squid_hunt at October 28, 2020 01:22 PM (B0mGw)
Agreed, just this week, after Biden said he wanted to kill the Oil Industry for good, the pollsters said that Biden's support in Texas *increased*.
Posted by: squid_hunt at October 28, 2020 01:22 PM (B0mGw)
Agreed, just this week, after Biden said he wanted to kill the Oil Industry for good, the pollsters said that Biden's support in Texas *increased*.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 28, 2020 01:24 PM (Kpl3J)
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Wish I gave a damn about the polls. As it is, I don't have the mental energy to attempt a cogent comment.
Posted by: Old Dude at October 28, 2020 01:24 PM (LGXGf)
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Ace I implore you to please, feature the new Lincoln Project commercial, at least in the sidebar. I understand the trepidation but it is a massive own goal. Also hilarious. Maybe the highlight of the campaign for me.
https://tinyurl.com/y2z3jf96
https://tinyurl.com/y2z3jf96
Posted by: ... at October 28, 2020 01:24 PM (kcYij)
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polls are for persuasion, not prediction.
Posted by: not the mama at October 28, 2020 01:24 PM (T2AaJ)
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I'm not going to talk about the new polls, though I'll mention a new
ABC polls that claims Biden is ahead in Wisconsin... by 17 points.
That's silly.
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They've gotten away with lying so long over so much that they've forgotten how to lie plausibly.
I'm not going to talk about the new polls, though I'll mention a new
ABC polls that claims Biden is ahead in Wisconsin... by 17 points.
That's silly.
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They've gotten away with lying so long over so much that they've forgotten how to lie plausibly.
Posted by: Methos at October 28, 2020 01:24 PM (kOpft)
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I think they're flat-out cheating on the polls.
Posted by: squid_hunt at October 28, 2020 01:22 PM (B0mGw)
Cheating?....how 'bout lying.
Posted by: squid_hunt at October 28, 2020 01:22 PM (B0mGw)
Cheating?....how 'bout lying.
Posted by: BignJames at October 28, 2020 01:24 PM (AwYPR)
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Also, wouldn't the Democrats need to win with something like 90% of the early votes since COVID is going to kill anyone who stands in line on election day?
Posted by: Moron Robbie's 503 cubic inches say thank you for your windmills and solar panels at October 28, 2020 01:24 PM (SDcEG)
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Rush played a clip from MSLSD earlier where a guy in Arizona asked early voters and 1 in 50 said they were voting Biden.
So yes. Biden leads nationally by 12.
So yes. Biden leads nationally by 12.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at October 28, 2020 01:24 PM (Zz0t1)
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So are the idiots who are terrified of leaving the house voting for Biden by mail? They should have already sent in their ballots, after they sterilize them first. They are counted, the rest are just the stupid who will never learn. I don't think Americans are that stupid, but I didn't think anyone would wear a mask because their overlord told them too.
Posted by: megthered at October 28, 2020 01:24 PM (SM/op)
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It will be what it will be. Vote, get others to vote, donate if you can for the post-election law suits, and standby with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence.
I am sanguine.
I am sanguine.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 28, 2020 01:24 PM (yQpMk)
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>>So a lot of people will simply not talk to a pollster,
This is simply not true.
Not 15 seconds ago I had a conversatin with a Pollster where I took great pains to tell her exactly how I would like her to suck my dick as reparations for calling me 5 times in the last 23 minutes.
This is simply not true.
Not 15 seconds ago I had a conversatin with a Pollster where I took great pains to tell her exactly how I would like her to suck my dick as reparations for calling me 5 times in the last 23 minutes.
Posted by: garrett at October 28, 2020 01:24 PM (EM4Pb)
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What is truth?
Posted by: Zombie Johnny Cash at October 28, 2020 01:25 PM (Z+IKu)
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as Rush said if all Libtards do is lie, why would they not lie about polls ??? HMMMM
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 28, 2020 01:25 PM (asQlL)
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What would the media be saying about the election and the polls if they were owned by the Chinese?
Posted by: ... at October 28, 2020 01:25 PM (kcYij)
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I don't know what to believe, poll-wise
but I'm a hardcore pessimist, so I expect to be disappointed next Tuesday
mentally preparing for it
but I'm a hardcore pessimist, so I expect to be disappointed next Tuesday
mentally preparing for it
Posted by: DB- just DB. at October 28, 2020 01:25 PM (iTXRQ)
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I'll pay attention to the poll which shows rampant, out of control dim cheating.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at October 28, 2020 01:25 PM (51WJ2)
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That ABC poll used a mix of Registered voters and Likely voters. Not sure I've seen that before.
Posted by: Tami at October 28, 2020 01:25 PM (cF8AT)
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17 points to justify the mob incitement when Trump wins WI
Posted by: Eli Cash at October 28, 2020 01:25 PM (67sg6)
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If they've got your phone number they probably have your address.
Posted by: wth at October 28, 2020 01:25 PM (v0R5T)
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you can't reconcile the polls with:
GOP voter registration edge
extreme gop voter enthusiasm
Trump 50+% approval rating
so...unless trump can't get turnout or he has defections to dnc, then the polls are fucking stupid. always ask for the D split.
didn't we see one poll with D48,R27, and I25? and that was a 13 point biden lead? well, duh, if you made it D27, R28, I45 it's trump+2.
GOP voter registration edge
extreme gop voter enthusiasm
Trump 50+% approval rating
so...unless trump can't get turnout or he has defections to dnc, then the polls are fucking stupid. always ask for the D split.
didn't we see one poll with D48,R27, and I25? and that was a 13 point biden lead? well, duh, if you made it D27, R28, I45 it's trump+2.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 01:25 PM (3XvN1)
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Just glanced at HA - Analpundit is going all Poll Troll, posting all the usual numbers showing how Trump is losing Wisconsin and Georgia.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 28, 2020 01:25 PM (Kpl3J)
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Jon Ralston says Dems should be worried.
Ralston is wrong. Dems should be wildly confident. In fact, they should be so confident that they feel no need to vote on election day.
Ralston is wrong. Dems should be wildly confident. In fact, they should be so confident that they feel no need to vote on election day.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at October 28, 2020 01:25 PM (X2Hct)
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So the polls are off by...9%?
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Which polls though? The media polls that have Joe +16, or Rasmussen who has Trump +1?
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Which polls though? The media polls that have Joe +16, or Rasmussen who has Trump +1?
Posted by: Methos at October 28, 2020 01:25 PM (kOpft)
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Grampa, Mom's stuck to the pole again.
Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby at October 28, 2020 01:25 PM (vtcmf)
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Let's just say that the window for introducing an October Surprise to destroy Trump is closing rapidly. Its like last time when they had to pull the trigger on that Access Hollywood tape early because of Hillary's Big Bollard Adventure. They had nothing left by the time it came time to influence voters.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:26 PM (KZzsI)
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Bloomberg "News" Biden is up in every state!! Early night for Trump!!!
Bloomberg "News" Biden is up in every state!! Early night for Trump!!!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 28, 2020 01:26 PM (mpeBU)
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EV = early vote, or electoral vote, or electron-volt, or electric vehicle, depending on context.
"I don't have the mental energy to attempt a cogent comment."
Never stops me from pitching in.
"I don't have the mental energy to attempt a cogent comment."
Never stops me from pitching in.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:26 PM (qpX6U)
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I like it when my niece takes my national pole.
Posted by: Hunter Biden at October 28, 2020 01:26 PM (Zz0t1)
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Meh.
Doesn't matter at all what the polls say.
Just vote. Do your job. And let the chips fall where they may.
Doesn't matter at all what the polls say.
Just vote. Do your job. And let the chips fall where they may.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 28, 2020 01:26 PM (EERbD)
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LV means different things to different pollsters. It's not like there is a universal definition. Which is why I actually trust RV polls more since everyone's definition is the same, Registered is binary, yes/no.
Now RV may not accurately reflect the actual results, but if you want to look for trends it's much better. IMHO
Now RV may not accurately reflect the actual results, but if you want to look for trends it's much better. IMHO
Posted by: Asshoes at October 28, 2020 01:26 PM (22mNy)
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WI will be close - but 17 points is ridiculous.
If that were true, Trump would be drawing Biden-size crowds.
If that were true, Trump would be drawing Biden-size crowds.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at October 28, 2020 01:26 PM (HabA/)
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It's not that we're not talking to pollsters because we're shy or scared...
it's because none of us have been polled.
kind of a big difference.
it's because none of us have been polled.
kind of a big difference.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 01:26 PM (3XvN1)
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Election results might be delayed
With the increase in voting by mail, there might be a delay in the announcement of election results. This means you could encounter unconfirmed claims that a candidate has won their race.
Find out more
Learn how voting by mail is safe and secure
We live in a world where 8chan is becoming more trustworthy than TwitterFacebookNYTWPCBSNBCetc.
Posted by: filbert at October 28, 2020 01:26 PM (NiXyF)
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Ask the Poles about the Germans.
Posted by: Archer at October 28, 2020 01:26 PM (gmo/4)
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Poles are for Strippers.
Polls are for Whores.
Posted by: Abe Lincoln at October 28, 2020 01:22 PM (FPur3)
Pols are all prostitutes
Poles are for Strippers.
Polls are for Whores.
Posted by: Abe Lincoln at October 28, 2020 01:22 PM (FPur3)
Pols are all prostitutes
Posted by: JoeF. at October 28, 2020 01:26 PM (HrMC1)
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NV update:
Dems still lead in all ballots by 50k; and are holding their 70k lead in Clark (Hillary won there by 80k)
They have a 110k lead in mail ballots
Rs lead early by 60k.
Rs lead early votes by 40k in week one; in 3.3 days of week 2 (Clark Co is the other 2/3 that has not reported Tuesday yet) and the Rs have already banked a 20k lead.
Monday saw Rs gain 4k early votes over D in Clark.
Friday of week 2 usually sees a near 90% increase over prior days; Rs should get a 50-60k lead by the end of this week.
Apply the 50/37 split of 2016 independent votes--Dems currently lead by 24k.
(Hillary won by 27k)
There are 1.8mm registered voters in NV; 835k have already voted!! 976k voted in 2016.
Looks like the Rs are on pace to counter the Dem mail vote advantage by a near equal advantage in early votes.
It'll be tied on Election Day; unless mail ballots drop off more, down 10k from Monday to Tuesday.
10/22 had 52.6% of mail ballots were Dems; 10/28 and it's down to 49.8%.
Trump has a rally outside of Las Vegas today.
Dems still lead in all ballots by 50k; and are holding their 70k lead in Clark (Hillary won there by 80k)
They have a 110k lead in mail ballots
Rs lead early by 60k.
Rs lead early votes by 40k in week one; in 3.3 days of week 2 (Clark Co is the other 2/3 that has not reported Tuesday yet) and the Rs have already banked a 20k lead.
Monday saw Rs gain 4k early votes over D in Clark.
Friday of week 2 usually sees a near 90% increase over prior days; Rs should get a 50-60k lead by the end of this week.
Apply the 50/37 split of 2016 independent votes--Dems currently lead by 24k.
(Hillary won by 27k)
There are 1.8mm registered voters in NV; 835k have already voted!! 976k voted in 2016.
Looks like the Rs are on pace to counter the Dem mail vote advantage by a near equal advantage in early votes.
It'll be tied on Election Day; unless mail ballots drop off more, down 10k from Monday to Tuesday.
10/22 had 52.6% of mail ballots were Dems; 10/28 and it's down to 49.8%.
Trump has a rally outside of Las Vegas today.
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 28, 2020 01:26 PM (aO8Gd)
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Again, it it Democrats and their media Get Out the Vote allies who pushed Democrats to vote early and vote by mail.
Republicans have pushed the idea of in-person voting.
And the Democrat ballot lead is falling day by day, and closing in on 2016's level.
Posted by: Ace at 01:19 PM
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AND...
The media has been actively terrifying its own base of COVID to the point that they thing it's a death sentence.
Something like 5% of Democrats are ready to return to normal life.
And the polls are telling them that Biden has this in the bag.
Chances that Democrats who didn't get their absentee ballots may chose to simply stay home increase with every added factor there.
They're fucked, and they're only now realizing it.
Eric Holder, yesterday, tweeted out that people need to vote in person.
Republicans have pushed the idea of in-person voting.
And the Democrat ballot lead is falling day by day, and closing in on 2016's level.
Posted by: Ace at 01:19 PM
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AND...
The media has been actively terrifying its own base of COVID to the point that they thing it's a death sentence.
Something like 5% of Democrats are ready to return to normal life.
And the polls are telling them that Biden has this in the bag.
Chances that Democrats who didn't get their absentee ballots may chose to simply stay home increase with every added factor there.
They're fucked, and they're only now realizing it.
Eric Holder, yesterday, tweeted out that people need to vote in person.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 01:26 PM (NWM+b)
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I'm re-watching that leaked all-hands funeral Google had after 2016. I hope some Googler leaks the 2020 one.
I'm re-watching that leaked all-hands funeral Google had after 2016. I hope some Googler leaks the 2020 one.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 28, 2020 01:27 PM (G51Gf)
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So, the governors in blue swing states will simply close in person voting on Election Day due to COVID concerns.
Problem solved.
Problem solved.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 28, 2020 01:27 PM (U2p+3)
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Cheeseheads are still doing laps around Stalin's coffin.
Posted by: klaftern at October 28, 2020 01:27 PM (RuIsu)
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Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 28, 2020 01:27 PM (asQlL)
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I marvel that so many on the Right are so easily demoralized, by obvious enemy propaganda. I wonder if there is some correlation between them and the Rona Fearful group?
Posted by: tubal at October 28, 2020 01:27 PM (bCLt0)
Posted by: xa4 nasal radiator at October 28, 2020 01:27 PM (xkudx)
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I predict: Pain.
Posted by: wth at October 28, 2020 01:27 PM (v0R5T)
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Turning tricks with polls...theres a joke in there somewhere.
Posted by: Mishdog at October 28, 2020 01:27 PM (5Yk8D)
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I get calls 3-4 times a week. guess that's what I get for still having a land line. I either don't answer or hang up.
Posted by: Drago at October 28, 2020 01:27 PM (2cfUo)
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Never interviewed by an exit-poll surveyer. Guess I'd say no comment, like I usually would to a survey or press inquiry.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:27 PM (qpX6U)
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from previous thread...
------------>
Jack needs the Roger Stone treatment.
no one is above the law, you know.
Also, this is about power. Twitter and the tech monopolies are saying they are above the law, what can you do? Well, trump can turn you off. that's power
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Jack needs the Roger Stone treatment.
no one is above the law, you know.
Also, this is about power. Twitter and the tech monopolies are saying they are above the law, what can you do? Well, trump can turn you off. that's power
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 01:27 PM (3XvN1)
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New Covid "data" and shut downs ARE the October surprise.
Posted by: Eli Cash at October 28, 2020 01:27 PM (67sg6)
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ABC had a poll of MN a while back where they didn't talk to a single person 30-39 years old. And there were more 18-29 yos than there were 65+ yo.
That's how you get Wisconsin at Biden +17.
That's how you get Wisconsin at Biden +17.
Posted by: Asshoes at October 28, 2020 01:28 PM (22mNy)
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48 If they've got your phone number they probably have your address.
Posted by: wth at October 28, 2020 01:25 PM (v0R5T)
Phone number leads to address.
Then they ask you to self identify.
Yes, I'm a White Male over 60...
There is only one of them at this address... sooo...
Into the database you go.
Posted by: wth at October 28, 2020 01:25 PM (v0R5T)
Phone number leads to address.
Then they ask you to self identify.
Yes, I'm a White Male over 60...
There is only one of them at this address... sooo...
Into the database you go.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 28, 2020 01:28 PM (NgKpN)
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A short story, for what it's worth. I voted absentee, but dropped it off in person at the polling place. Bozo Conservative decided to go with me and vote early. We are in RED Ohio.
I stood and talked to the poll worker for a while. A nice older gentleman. He mentioned that the biggest problem was people wearing political clothes to the polls; they would have to take them off (hats) or wear them inside out (shirts) to cover the message.
Has anyone seen people wearing Biden swag? I haven't. So I am assuming that everyone coming to vote in swag was on the Trump side. He has enthusiasm. Biden? He's in the basement.
I stood and talked to the poll worker for a while. A nice older gentleman. He mentioned that the biggest problem was people wearing political clothes to the polls; they would have to take them off (hats) or wear them inside out (shirts) to cover the message.
Has anyone seen people wearing Biden swag? I haven't. So I am assuming that everyone coming to vote in swag was on the Trump side. He has enthusiasm. Biden? He's in the basement.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 28, 2020 01:28 PM (ZCiJZ)
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I've been thinking about this; are we in a bubble? We can't fathom anyone voting for Biden, but isn't it the same way the Democrats were about Nixon? Could we be wrong? I can't wait for this shit to be over.
Posted by: stourma at October 28, 2020 01:21 PM (bbYBJ)
Are we? Most certainly, if by "bubble" we mean "limited sources of information, all of it biased in some way". What does information from outside our bubble indicate, though? For example, I have two family members who are leftists. They're not acting like people who think their guy is winning. They're acting defeated. Look at Dave in Fla's daily bullet point list of factoids, many of which are from sources independent of AoS-type information.
It looks like we're winning this. We may be wrong about that. Soon we'll know. In the meantime let's have some fun here and be happy. At the very least, being happy and joyful in the face of all this seems to annoy the shit out of leftists, which is a plus. It feels good, too.
Posted by: stourma at October 28, 2020 01:21 PM (bbYBJ)
Are we? Most certainly, if by "bubble" we mean "limited sources of information, all of it biased in some way". What does information from outside our bubble indicate, though? For example, I have two family members who are leftists. They're not acting like people who think their guy is winning. They're acting defeated. Look at Dave in Fla's daily bullet point list of factoids, many of which are from sources independent of AoS-type information.
It looks like we're winning this. We may be wrong about that. Soon we'll know. In the meantime let's have some fun here and be happy. At the very least, being happy and joyful in the face of all this seems to annoy the shit out of leftists, which is a plus. It feels good, too.
Posted by: Mostly Peaceful Grognard at October 28, 2020 01:28 PM (b3x5S)
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Has ANYONE explained how you conduct a random sample, accurate poll, when it's basically impossible to get a truly random sample?
Anyone?
Anyone?
Posted by: BurtTC at October 28, 2020 01:28 PM (hku12)
84
Were it not for the polls, what would your gut tell you about this election? Four years ago the dems ran a very unlikeable and corrupt politician against an unknown. The race was incredibly close, though Trump's electoral college numbers made it look like a comfortable win. The media have painted Trump as a racists Putin puppet for four years, but this time Trump has a track record and showed what is possible when you get the government off of people's back. Blacks and Latinos are vocally supporting him. The riots, BLM, Antifa, Portland, Chicago and now Philly burning, and dozens of other variable combining with COVID makes this time of voting highly unpredictable. Yet the polls would have us believe a guy with visible mental decline who has not campaigned is going to waltz into the WH. Of course we will know next week, but as of now, I just don't believe it.
Posted by: iandeal at October 28, 2020 01:28 PM (vgGyZ)
85
New COVID fear porn driving the markets down and hopefully for the Left, keeping Trump voters from the polls
New COVID fear porn driving the markets down and hopefully for the Left, keeping Trump voters from the polls
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 28, 2020 01:28 PM (s2VJv)
86
've been thinking about this; are we in a bubble? We can't fathom anyone voting for Biden, but isn't it the same way the Democrats were about Nixon? Could we be wrong? I can't wait for this shit to be over.
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I think it's fair to say that some group is in a bubble. Us or them. They seem very confident based on polls. We seem confident based on polls being wildly off.
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I think it's fair to say that some group is in a bubble. Us or them. They seem very confident based on polls. We seem confident based on polls being wildly off.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 28, 2020 01:28 PM (O+I8R)
87
So, the governors in blue swing states will simply close in person voting on Election Day due to COVID concerns.
Problem solved. Posted by: nurse ratched at October 28, 2020 01:27 PM (U2p+3)>>>
Gotta re-flatten that curve! And we're all in this together!*spit*
Problem solved. Posted by: nurse ratched at October 28, 2020 01:27 PM (U2p+3)>>>
Gotta re-flatten that curve! And we're all in this together!*spit*
Posted by: Old Dude at October 28, 2020 01:28 PM (LGXGf)
88
people, just fucking vote.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 01:28 PM (3XvN1)
89
The only plausible reason for pushing insanely fraudulent polls is to sow post election chaos.
Even though Wisconsin has been reliably Donk, it hasn't been 17pct Donk.
So instead of polls tightening I believe the polls are going to go wildly for Biden.
Even though Wisconsin has been reliably Donk, it hasn't been 17pct Donk.
So instead of polls tightening I believe the polls are going to go wildly for Biden.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 28, 2020 01:28 PM (tW1lH)
90
A Texas judge just invalidated Gov Abbot's mask exemption for voting ... because it is discriminatory to blacks and hispanics who are more at risk to Covid. This is silly and will be overturned by the 5th, but what a sorry state of affairs we are in in Texas. Thanks Abbot.
Posted by: That Guy (formerly SH) at October 28, 2020 01:28 PM (sX1BW)
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76 Never interviewed by an exit-poll surveyer. Guess I'd say no comment, like I usually would to a survey or press inquiry.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:27 PM (qpX6U)
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I did once. It was 2014 and I got to say that I voted for the Libertarian candidate against Graham. I got tickled at the thought of my datum artificially inflating the guy's support in the poll.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:27 PM (qpX6U)
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I did once. It was 2014 and I got to say that I voted for the Libertarian candidate against Graham. I got tickled at the thought of my datum artificially inflating the guy's support in the poll.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 01:28 PM (NWM+b)
92
Obama beat McCain by 14 points in 2008. Am I supposed to believe that Biden, of all people, is going to do better than Obama?? In 2008, when Bush's approval rating was in the 30s and the economy (according to the press) had just fallen off the cliff -- but Trump, with a great economy and approval rating in the high 40s/low 50s, is going to lose by 17?? Not buying it.
Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at October 28, 2020 01:28 PM (GZ/yK)
93
So the polls are off by...9%?
They're not off by anything. Just tell us the numbers you want to publish and we'll get your story.
They're not off by anything. Just tell us the numbers you want to publish and we'll get your story.
Posted by: Polling Companies at October 28, 2020 01:29 PM (vOGqy)
94
@49 officialredcheckmark
"GOP voter registration edge
extreme gop voter enthusiasm
Trump 50+% approval rating "
And:
Incumbent almost always wins the election
Biden campaign is extremely negative
Biden is obviously incapacitated
Dems are as hungry for an overthrow of status quo as Repubs and were cheated of their candidate
"GOP voter registration edge
extreme gop voter enthusiasm
Trump 50+% approval rating "
And:
Incumbent almost always wins the election
Biden campaign is extremely negative
Biden is obviously incapacitated
Dems are as hungry for an overthrow of status quo as Repubs and were cheated of their candidate
Posted by: squid_hunt at October 28, 2020 01:29 PM (B0mGw)
95
Do not pay attention to the polls. Do not pay attention to the poll's critics. Do not pay attention to the candidates, or their campaigns, or voters, or journalists, or your husband, or your college kid, or the neighbor who sidles up next to you and says, in an offhand manner "sheesh, what an election, huh" and then unburdens himself of his prognostication, or the chick with the beads and the magical cards that tell you if your spouse is cheating.
Pay attention to Zod. Zod knows the election's outcome. It will be told.
Pay attention to Zod. Zod knows the election's outcome. It will be told.
Posted by: Zod at October 28, 2020 01:29 PM (6J5Fm)
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Many of these polls show Biden with leads that Obama never came close to having over McCain in 2008. For these numbers to be accurate, Biden would need a historical turnout and Trump voters would basically need to stay home. Neither of these things are going to happen.
Posted by: joefl65 at October 28, 2020 01:29 PM (Zg8cW)
97
I think they're flat-out cheating on the polls.
Posted by: squid_hunt at October 28, 2020 01:22 PM (B0mGw)
Cheating?....how 'bout lying.
Posted by: BignJames at October 28, 2020 01:24 PM (AwYPR)
What about me?
Posted by: squid_hunt at October 28, 2020 01:22 PM (B0mGw)
Cheating?....how 'bout lying.
Posted by: BignJames at October 28, 2020 01:24 PM (AwYPR)
What about me?
Posted by: Stealing at October 28, 2020 01:29 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 28, 2020 01:29 PM (YA914)
99
as Rush said if all Libtards do is lie, why would they not lie about polls ??? HMMMM
They're like Terminators. They absolutely will not stop lying.
And psychologically, I wonder about anyone who seeks to control what somebody else thinks. Right, Mika?
They're like Terminators. They absolutely will not stop lying.
And psychologically, I wonder about anyone who seeks to control what somebody else thinks. Right, Mika?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - A vote for Biden is a vote for the ChiComs at October 28, 2020 01:29 PM (HaL55)
100
27 It's comical to understand that polls are driven by people who will answer the phone when an unknown number shows in the caller ID box.
Posted by: Moron Robbie's 503 cubic inches say thank you for your windmills and solar panels at October 28, 2020 01:23 PM (SDcEG)
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Actually, the pollster name does show up in caller id. Otherwise their response rates would be zero.
Posted by: Moron Robbie's 503 cubic inches say thank you for your windmills and solar panels at October 28, 2020 01:23 PM (SDcEG)
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Actually, the pollster name does show up in caller id. Otherwise their response rates would be zero.
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at October 28, 2020 01:29 PM (O6DoG)
Posted by: Azathoth at October 28, 2020 01:29 PM (Mp+Ti)
102
I voted early in person for the first time. So did many of may family members. All republicans. I voted early for two reasons:
1.
1.
Posted by: Brian at October 28, 2020 01:30 PM (eV752)
103
Im a goof. Graph is upside down.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 28, 2020 01:30 PM (pB6Gt)
104
Has ANYONE explained how you conduct a random sample, accurate poll, when it's basically impossible to get a truly random sample?
Anyone?
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You don't. And this leaves aside the issue of asking for subjective and unverifiable info like an opinion.
Anyone?
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You don't. And this leaves aside the issue of asking for subjective and unverifiable info like an opinion.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at October 28, 2020 01:30 PM (4k/Uz)
105
I've lived all over the place since I was old enough to vote. Red states, blue states, purple states. And I have never been called for a political poll.. Which I find really weird. I've kept the same cell number all these years and the area code is from a fairly competitive state. And still, nada.
It almost seems like pollsters call the same 5000 people every year.
It almost seems like pollsters call the same 5000 people every year.
Posted by: Asshoes at October 28, 2020 01:30 PM (22mNy)
Posted by: BignJames at October 28, 2020 01:30 PM (AwYPR)
107
8 I've been thinking about this; are we in a bubble? We can't fathom anyone voting for Biden, but isn't it the same way the Democrats were about Nixon? Could we be wrong? I can't wait for this shit to be over.
Posted by: stourma at October 28, 2020 01:21 PM (bbYBJ)
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I can see clearly with my own eyes tens of thousands rallying around every Beijing Biden event over the past five years while Trump only draws flies. /
Everything from the ruling class oligarchy is a disinformation opp now. The Dems are confident that they can steal it by cheating and via the courts -- and they'll use these outrageous poll numbers as "proof" that once again Putin stole the election for Trump.
You, and the collective we, are being played ... and paying for the privilege.
Posted by: stourma at October 28, 2020 01:21 PM (bbYBJ)
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I can see clearly with my own eyes tens of thousands rallying around every Beijing Biden event over the past five years while Trump only draws flies. /
Everything from the ruling class oligarchy is a disinformation opp now. The Dems are confident that they can steal it by cheating and via the courts -- and they'll use these outrageous poll numbers as "proof" that once again Putin stole the election for Trump.
You, and the collective we, are being played ... and paying for the privilege.
Posted by: ShainS at October 28, 2020 01:30 PM (mWjfg)
108
54 Let's just say that the window for introducing an October Surprise to destroy Trump is closing rapidly. Its like last time when they had to pull the trigger on that Access Hollywood tape early because of Hillary's Big Bollard Adventure. They had nothing left by the time it came time to influence voters.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:26 PM (KZzsI)
We're past the window for any more successful surprises. What we see now is what we're going to see for the next 6 days; Team Trump yelling about Biden and the Bobulinksi interview, and the MSM attempting to lock down all reporting of it until after next Tuesday. Meanwhile, they will shriek COVID! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!! as loudly as they can.
This is it, this is the endgame. We're there.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:26 PM (KZzsI)
We're past the window for any more successful surprises. What we see now is what we're going to see for the next 6 days; Team Trump yelling about Biden and the Bobulinksi interview, and the MSM attempting to lock down all reporting of it until after next Tuesday. Meanwhile, they will shriek COVID! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!! as loudly as they can.
This is it, this is the endgame. We're there.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 28, 2020 01:30 PM (Kpl3J)
109
Yep, you talk to a pollster, and they already know your name, address, political affiliation, income, and anything else they want to know about you, if they choose to look up that information.
It would be idiotic to answer their questions honestly.
It would be idiotic to answer their questions honestly.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 28, 2020 01:30 PM (I2/tG)
110
hopefully for the Left, keeping Trump voters from the polls
In 2016, people would crawl through glass to vote against Hillary.
In 2020, I believe Trump supporter will crawl through glass to support Trump.
In 2016, people would crawl through glass to vote against Hillary.
In 2020, I believe Trump supporter will crawl through glass to support Trump.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 28, 2020 01:30 PM (ZCiJZ)
111
"The only plausible reason for pushing insanely fraudulent polls is to sow post election chaos."
Well, there's money to be made in conducting polls, and in publicizing poll results. I assume that's the main reason they do it. Pollsters get paid by political parties, click-baiters get paid to get people to click poll results.
Well, there's money to be made in conducting polls, and in publicizing poll results. I assume that's the main reason they do it. Pollsters get paid by political parties, click-baiters get paid to get people to click poll results.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:30 PM (qpX6U)
112
> I marvel that so many on the Right are so easily demoralized, by obvious enemy propaganda.
sorry man- hope is a dangerous thing
it's just me- I take meds for it
sorry man- hope is a dangerous thing
it's just me- I take meds for it
Posted by: DB- just DB. at October 28, 2020 01:30 PM (iTXRQ)
113
The media is biased, media polls are biased in the same way.
The media wants to shape the world in it's own image.
Fuck the media.
The media wants to shape the world in it's own image.
Fuck the media.
Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at October 28, 2020 01:31 PM (0OmEj)
Posted by: stumck at October 28, 2020 01:31 PM (w9Wax)
115
I work at a university but I am never afraid to say I am for Trump. However, I am anti-social so the very few people I talk to are people I can stand (so at least somewhat "conservative). But I am not afraid to tell any ass who brings it up that I am for Trump.
Someone mentioned how their wife (a liberal) got a new job and made a new "friend" (who is apparently communist) and therefore must make herself align with that friend's views to keep her mental equilibrium. Does everyone, no matter how "American" their viewpoint, somehow decide, "Oh, to have friends (who are communist), I have to agree with them"? Are there no actual Americans who say, "To have friends, this person needs to align WITH ME?????!!!!"
Someone mentioned how their wife (a liberal) got a new job and made a new "friend" (who is apparently communist) and therefore must make herself align with that friend's views to keep her mental equilibrium. Does everyone, no matter how "American" their viewpoint, somehow decide, "Oh, to have friends (who are communist), I have to agree with them"? Are there no actual Americans who say, "To have friends, this person needs to align WITH ME?????!!!!"
Posted by: Brunnhilde at October 28, 2020 01:31 PM (E3FAu)
116
My baby momma uses a pole while I huff the glass cock.
Posted by: Hunter Biden at October 28, 2020 01:31 PM (Zz0t1)
117
"Hello, I'm a pollster. Would you say you support Joe Biden for president, or should we give Antifa your current address?"
I wouldn't talk to a pollster.
I wouldn't talk to a pollster.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 28, 2020 01:31 PM (E+OcO)
118
About all of my corruption and being a traitor, if you vote for me, I won't be president for more than a couple of months.
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 28, 2020 01:31 PM (pw+jk)
119
as Rush said if all Libtards do is lie, why would they not lie about polls ???
Yep. They can't get any guiltier, so why stop?
Yep. They can't get any guiltier, so why stop?
Posted by: t-bird at October 28, 2020 01:31 PM (vOGqy)
120
101 For the nth time, watch what people do not what they say.
Posted by: Azathoth at October 28, 2020 01:29 PM (Mp+Ti)
Good advice, but some cannot resist buying into " stats" and graphs, no matter how specious.
Posted by: Azathoth at October 28, 2020 01:29 PM (Mp+Ti)
Good advice, but some cannot resist buying into " stats" and graphs, no matter how specious.
Posted by: tubal at October 28, 2020 01:31 PM (bCLt0)
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108 54 Let's just say that the window for introducing an October Surprise to destroy Trump is closing rapidly. Its like last time when they had to pull the trigger on that Access Hollywood tape early because of Hillary's Big Bollard Adventure. They had nothing left by the time it came time to influence voters.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:26 PM (KZzsI)
We're past the window for any more successful surprises. What we see now is what we're going to see for the next 6 days; Team Trump yelling about Biden and the Bobulinksi interview, and the MSM attempting to lock down all reporting of it until after next Tuesday. Meanwhile, they will shriek COVID! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!! as loudly as they can.
This is it, this is the endgame. We're there.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 28, 2020 01:30 PM (Kpl3J)
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It was the tax story.
That was their silver bullet.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:26 PM (KZzsI)
We're past the window for any more successful surprises. What we see now is what we're going to see for the next 6 days; Team Trump yelling about Biden and the Bobulinksi interview, and the MSM attempting to lock down all reporting of it until after next Tuesday. Meanwhile, they will shriek COVID! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!! as loudly as they can.
This is it, this is the endgame. We're there.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 28, 2020 01:30 PM (Kpl3J)
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It was the tax story.
That was their silver bullet.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 01:31 PM (NWM+b)
122
My gut tells me it's 50/50 for a Trump victory. I like going out on a limb.
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at October 28, 2020 01:31 PM (2DOZq)
123
the polls are giving Biden 100 per cent of the fraud votes.
Posted by: Case at October 28, 2020 01:31 PM (CBO5D)
124
So Biden 58-41 in Wisconsin.
I don't see it.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 28, 2020 01:29 PM (YA914)
May as well stay home and drink.....and other stuff.
So Biden 58-41 in Wisconsin.
I don't see it.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 28, 2020 01:29 PM (YA914)
May as well stay home and drink.....and other stuff.
Posted by: Roland THTG at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (cJEnq)
125
49 you can't reconcile the polls with:
GOP voter registration edge
extreme gop voter enthusiasm
Trump 50+% approval rating"
Exactly. I am less impressed with things like crowd size and yard signs. My optimism is based more on voter registration and GOP voting in the primaries.
But if Trump was really down 17 percent in the polls, you wouldn't have Trump car and boat parades. Nobody held boat parades for Jimmy in 1980.
GOP voter registration edge
extreme gop voter enthusiasm
Trump 50+% approval rating"
Exactly. I am less impressed with things like crowd size and yard signs. My optimism is based more on voter registration and GOP voting in the primaries.
But if Trump was really down 17 percent in the polls, you wouldn't have Trump car and boat parades. Nobody held boat parades for Jimmy in 1980.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (HabA/)
126
Republicans have pushed the idea of in-person voting.
I don't know why they would do this with the promise of election day violence.
I've been thinking about this; are we in a bubble?
In short, yes. But since current polling is not reliable, there is no way for anybody to really read the tea leaves. But the nation is divided as bad as the civil war, so that likely leads to a close race.
I don't know why they would do this with the promise of election day violence.
I've been thinking about this; are we in a bubble?
In short, yes. But since current polling is not reliable, there is no way for anybody to really read the tea leaves. But the nation is divided as bad as the civil war, so that likely leads to a close race.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (r+sAi)
127
Ruh-ro. Biden now pushing people to vote "in person". You know after saying COVID would kill you if you did, and then Democrats mail-in ballot schemes being defeated in almost every court. Mostly their mail-in ballot schemes being defeated.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (VpIIl)
128
I've been thinking about this; are we in a bubble? We can't fathom
anyone voting for Biden, but isn't it the same way the Democrats were
about Nixon? Could we be wrong? I can't wait for this shit to be over.
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I can fathom people voting for Biden. What I cannot fathom is people voting in greater numbers for Biden than Hillary against an incumbent President who seems even more popular than the first time he ran.
anyone voting for Biden, but isn't it the same way the Democrats were
about Nixon? Could we be wrong? I can't wait for this shit to be over.
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I can fathom people voting for Biden. What I cannot fathom is people voting in greater numbers for Biden than Hillary against an incumbent President who seems even more popular than the first time he ran.
Posted by: That Guy (formerly SH) at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (sX1BW)
129
As with 2016, the purpose of the polls isn't to inform, it's to intimidate voters and create a "stolen election" narrative if their fraudsters can't make enough fake ballots before the courts and governors shut them down.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (psDyo)
130
It isn't so much that I'm demoralized about the election itself...I'm more demoralized about the temper tantrum the Left will throw if/when Trump wins.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (4k/Uz)
131
I voted early in person for the first time. So did many of may family members. All republicans. I voted early for two reasons:
1. live in blue state that has a propensity for shutdowns and I would not put it pas them to close the polls because the the Rona.
2. I did not want to get stuck outside in the cold for hours in an absurdly long socially distanced line on election day.
1. live in blue state that has a propensity for shutdowns and I would not put it pas them to close the polls because the the Rona.
2. I did not want to get stuck outside in the cold for hours in an absurdly long socially distanced line on election day.
Posted by: Brian at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (eV752)
132
>>"Hello, I'm a pollster. Would you say you support Joe Biden for president, or should we give Antifa your current address?"
Oh, that would be sweetness.
Oh, that would be sweetness.
Posted by: garrett at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (EM4Pb)
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102 I voted early in person for the first time. So did many of may family members. All republicans. I voted early for two reasons:
1.
Posted by: Brian at October 28, 2020 01:30 PM (eV752)
_________
2. See 1.
1.
Posted by: Brian at October 28, 2020 01:30 PM (eV752)
_________
2. See 1.
Posted by: ShainS at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (mWjfg)
134
REPENT!
Posted by: David French at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (44JhU)
Posted by: Braenyard at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (/wRdn)
136
Depends on who's counting the ballots. Maybe the people counting are giving information on the polls.
Posted by: JROD at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (0jZnq)
137
BTW, maybe the conspiracy theories are right. maybe they absconded with enough mail in ballots to completely turn everything democrat, then they can pack the court, add 20 new states, and deliver amnesty.
what are you going to do then?
what are you going to do then?
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (3XvN1)
138
I'm feel really good about Trump winning. Like a 55/45 blow out.
Then again I'm foaming at the mouth crazy for Trump.
Then again I'm foaming at the mouth crazy for Trump.
Posted by: MAGA (I got rabies for Trump) at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (eMEkg)
139
128
I can fathom people voting for Biden. What I cannot fathom is people voting in greater numbers for Biden than Hillary against an incumbent President who seems even more popular than the first time he ran.
Posted by: That Guy (formerly SH) at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (sX1BW)
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Especially since BIDEN HAS NO GROUND GAME AT ALL.
I can fathom people voting for Biden. What I cannot fathom is people voting in greater numbers for Biden than Hillary against an incumbent President who seems even more popular than the first time he ran.
Posted by: That Guy (formerly SH) at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (sX1BW)
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Especially since BIDEN HAS NO GROUND GAME AT ALL.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (NWM+b)
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>>117 "Hello, I'm a pollster. Would you say you support Joe Biden for president, or should we give Antifa your current address?" Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 28, 2020 01:31 PM (E+OcO)
(Gives pollster address of liberal neighbor, readies camera for great victory/WorldStarHipHop fame).
(Gives pollster address of liberal neighbor, readies camera for great victory/WorldStarHipHop fame).
Posted by: Zod at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (6J5Fm)
141
New Covid "data" and shut downs ARE the October surprise.
Posted by: Eli Cash at October 28, 2020 01:27 PM (67sg6)
Yup. Nothing else worked to destroy OrangeManBad so it's back to Flu Manchu is going to kill everyone and it's all Trump's fault. Wall Street as per usual goes along with the hysteria
Posted by: Eli Cash at October 28, 2020 01:27 PM (67sg6)
Yup. Nothing else worked to destroy OrangeManBad so it's back to Flu Manchu is going to kill everyone and it's all Trump's fault. Wall Street as per usual goes along with the hysteria
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 28, 2020 01:33 PM (mpeBU)
142
I'm pretty sure that I read that Democrats who vote are 5 times more likely to die of COVID than Republicans.
Democrats who don't vote die at the same rate as Republicans.
The science is settled Democrats.
Don't vote.
Democrats who don't vote die at the same rate as Republicans.
The science is settled Democrats.
Don't vote.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 28, 2020 01:33 PM (EERbD)
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>>Especially since BIDEN HAS NO GROUND GAME AT ALL. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (NWM+b)
Never get in a land war with Bai-den.
Never get in a land war with Bai-den.
Posted by: Zod at October 28, 2020 01:33 PM (6J5Fm)
144
Are we still arguing over polls?
This election is over, Trump wins.
I just caught Rich Baris podcast and he has a scoop from Pfizer. They will be releasing their vaccine under emergency use authorization on Nov 20th.
Want to know why that isn't known? Because Fauci wants Moderna to win the race.
So for those who want to know when the Covid madness ends and we return to normal?
November 20th.
This election is over, Trump wins.
I just caught Rich Baris podcast and he has a scoop from Pfizer. They will be releasing their vaccine under emergency use authorization on Nov 20th.
Want to know why that isn't known? Because Fauci wants Moderna to win the race.
So for those who want to know when the Covid madness ends and we return to normal?
November 20th.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 28, 2020 01:33 PM (5p7BC)
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It's comical to understand that polls are driven by people who will answer the phone when an unknown number shows in the caller ID box.
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Actually, the pollster name does show up in caller id. Otherwise their response rates would be zero.
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at October 28, 2020 01:29 PM (O6DoG)
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Actually I've been called by three separate polling companies without it having a name in the ID section on my Android phone.
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Actually, the pollster name does show up in caller id. Otherwise their response rates would be zero.
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at October 28, 2020 01:29 PM (O6DoG)
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Actually I've been called by three separate polling companies without it having a name in the ID section on my Android phone.
Posted by: Moron Robbie's 503 cubic inches say thank you for your windmills and solar panels at October 28, 2020 01:33 PM (SDcEG)
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The question to ask is: why would anybody think the media is telling the truth about ANYTHING when it comes to Trump?
They have been lying non-stop for 4 years about him and now they are going to be truthful?
They have been lying non-stop for 4 years about him and now they are going to be truthful?
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at October 28, 2020 01:33 PM (HabA/)
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@122 Alabaster
"My gut tells me it's 50/50 for a Trump victory. I like going out on a limb."
Trump is going to win the national popular vote and win in a landslide of EV's. It's not going to be close.
"My gut tells me it's 50/50 for a Trump victory. I like going out on a limb."
Trump is going to win the national popular vote and win in a landslide of EV's. It's not going to be close.
Posted by: squid_hunt at October 28, 2020 01:33 PM (B0mGw)
148
>>the Democrat ballot lead is falling day by day
I keep asking how we know this? It's not exit polls, it's actual ballots, I'm told.
>>the Democrat ballot lead is falling day by day
I keep asking how we know this? It's not exit polls, it's actual ballots, I'm told.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 28, 2020 01:33 PM (G51Gf)
149
I feel like Go Go before she guts the geek admirer.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 28, 2020 01:33 PM (pB6Gt)
150
"are we in a bubble?"
I know I am. I mainly read only the sites that confirm my own prejudices and opinions. I skim the MSM sites, but don't believe anything there. Some stories, I'll drill down to original sources. Yeah, I'm biased and in a bubble.
I know I am. I mainly read only the sites that confirm my own prejudices and opinions. I skim the MSM sites, but don't believe anything there. Some stories, I'll drill down to original sources. Yeah, I'm biased and in a bubble.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:34 PM (qpX6U)
151
Does everyone, no matter how "American" their viewpoint, somehow
decide, "Oh, to have friends (who are communist), I have to agree with
them"? Are there no actual Americans who say, "To have friends, this
person needs to align WITH ME?????!!!!" >>>
I'm polite with anyone. Once they start trying political litmus tests, that's over. No time for ass hoes of any political stripe.
decide, "Oh, to have friends (who are communist), I have to agree with
them"? Are there no actual Americans who say, "To have friends, this
person needs to align WITH ME?????!!!!" >>>
I'm polite with anyone. Once they start trying political litmus tests, that's over. No time for ass hoes of any political stripe.
Posted by: Old Dude at October 28, 2020 01:34 PM (LGXGf)
152
Biden is going to get boat raced and his rat ship followers may not like the reaction they get when they "protest" the outcome.
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at October 28, 2020 01:34 PM (xceTB)
153
The only plausible reason for pushing insanely fraudulent polls is to sow post election chaos."
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maybe the conspiracy theories are right. maybe they absconded with enough mail in ballots to completely turn everything democrat, then they can pack the court, add 20 new states, and deliver amnesty. Maybe that's the point.
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maybe the conspiracy theories are right. maybe they absconded with enough mail in ballots to completely turn everything democrat, then they can pack the court, add 20 new states, and deliver amnesty. Maybe that's the point.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 01:34 PM (3XvN1)
Posted by: In before the troll at October 28, 2020 01:34 PM (EGyGV)
155
Addendum: Google sucks, but that call screen feature on the latest phones is pretty damn handy.
Posted by: Moron Robbie's 503 cubic inches say thank you for your windmills and solar panels at October 28, 2020 01:34 PM (SDcEG)
156
polls are a service provided for payment
the media pay for rigged polls............so most polling outfits provide what the customer wants. For some pollsters, like teensy little colleges no one has ever heard of, these polls are Necessary Income
take note of Trafalgar and occasionally glimpse at Rasmussen.
....this year, for the first time evah, a pollster polled me. QuinnyPrick. I hung up on the first call, told them to never call me again and hung up on the second
THfDT --- Thank God for Donald Trump
the media pay for rigged polls............so most polling outfits provide what the customer wants. For some pollsters, like teensy little colleges no one has ever heard of, these polls are Necessary Income
take note of Trafalgar and occasionally glimpse at Rasmussen.
....this year, for the first time evah, a pollster polled me. QuinnyPrick. I hung up on the first call, told them to never call me again and hung up on the second
THfDT --- Thank God for Donald Trump
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at October 28, 2020 01:34 PM (8KSPd)
157
This is it, this is the endgame. We're there.
Yeah, that's my take as well. We're past the point of no return on voter reaction, especially since so many have already voted.
Yeah, that's my take as well. We're past the point of no return on voter reaction, especially since so many have already voted.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:34 PM (KZzsI)
158
So, the governors in blue swing states will simply close in person voting on Election Day due to COVID concerns.
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I honestly think if it came to that with this election in particular, there would be rioting. And not from the usual suspects.
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I honestly think if it came to that with this election in particular, there would be rioting. And not from the usual suspects.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 28, 2020 01:34 PM (O+I8R)
159
I can fathom people voting for Biden. What I cannot fathom is people voting in greater numbers for Biden than Hillary against an incumbent President who seems even more popular than the first time he ran.
Posted by: That Guy (formerly SH) at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (sX1BW)
Logic?....you can't use that here!
Posted by: That Guy (formerly SH) at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (sX1BW)
Logic?....you can't use that here!
Posted by: BignJames at October 28, 2020 01:34 PM (AwYPR)
160
148
>>the Democrat ballot lead is falling day by day
I keep asking how we know this? It's not exit polls, it's actual ballots, I'm told.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 28, 2020 01:33 PM (G51Gf)
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Ballots by party registration.
FL, NC, NV, and CO are prime examples.
>>the Democrat ballot lead is falling day by day
I keep asking how we know this? It's not exit polls, it's actual ballots, I'm told.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 28, 2020 01:33 PM (G51Gf)
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Ballots by party registration.
FL, NC, NV, and CO are prime examples.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 01:34 PM (NWM+b)
161
New COVID fear porn driving the markets down
Good, good. I'm sitting 96% cash and bond funds. Cash is making nothing, bonds are just barely moving. I want to get back into equities but I guess I will have to wait until the rally is actually underway to minimize risk.
Good, good. I'm sitting 96% cash and bond funds. Cash is making nothing, bonds are just barely moving. I want to get back into equities but I guess I will have to wait until the rally is actually underway to minimize risk.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 28, 2020 01:34 PM (yQpMk)
162
It was the tax story.
That was their silver bullet.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 01:31 PM (NWM+b)
I agree--and that's why his Ras numbers dropped that week from 52% to 44%
They are back up to 52%
That was their silver bullet.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 01:31 PM (NWM+b)
I agree--and that's why his Ras numbers dropped that week from 52% to 44%
They are back up to 52%
Posted by: JoeF. at October 28, 2020 01:34 PM (HrMC1)
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So, the governors in blue swing states will simply close in person voting on Election Day due to COVID concerns.
Problem solved. Posted by: nurse ratched at October 28, 2020 01:27 PM
I was told, on this very blog, that the states can't close the polls in a federal election. I had been told by 2 different people that they were worried about that happening, so they voted early but were worried that votes won't be counted. If they would close the polls, Trump would stay president until they were forced to open them again. Just stupid.
Problem solved. Posted by: nurse ratched at October 28, 2020 01:27 PM
I was told, on this very blog, that the states can't close the polls in a federal election. I had been told by 2 different people that they were worried about that happening, so they voted early but were worried that votes won't be counted. If they would close the polls, Trump would stay president until they were forced to open them again. Just stupid.
Posted by: megthered at October 28, 2020 01:34 PM (SM/op)
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Re 131:
I think a lot of Republicans are voting early (in person). I also think there will, therefore, be less Republicans voting on election day. As a result, I would not put any stock in the fact that Republicans are not to far behind in early voting.
I think a lot of Republicans are voting early (in person). I also think there will, therefore, be less Republicans voting on election day. As a result, I would not put any stock in the fact that Republicans are not to far behind in early voting.
Posted by: Brian at October 28, 2020 01:34 PM (eV752)
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at October 28, 2020 01:34 PM (i9bIW)
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I'm pretty sure that I read that Democrats who vote are 5 times more likely to die of COVID than Republicans.
Democrats who don't vote die at the same rate as Republicans.
The science is settled Democrats.
Don't vote.
LOL. I sometimes wish I was on Facebook so I could post things like this. I literally know Democrats who would believe this.
Democrats who don't vote die at the same rate as Republicans.
The science is settled Democrats.
Don't vote.
LOL. I sometimes wish I was on Facebook so I could post things like this. I literally know Democrats who would believe this.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 28, 2020 01:34 PM (ZCiJZ)
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Biden over here...*lays ballot on table*
Trump over there... *tosses ballot in incinerator*
Trump over there... *tosses ballot in incinerator*
Posted by: Dreadlocked Santa Cruz Co. elections clerk at October 28, 2020 01:34 PM (v0R5T)
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I'm old skool.
I only vote on Election Day. Carry my hairy ass down to the polling station and vote.
As it should be, but people are stoopid and lazy.
So we get what we have here today.....early voting, mail in voting, blah, blah, blah. All democrat tricks to steal elections.
I only vote on Election Day. Carry my hairy ass down to the polling station and vote.
As it should be, but people are stoopid and lazy.
So we get what we have here today.....early voting, mail in voting, blah, blah, blah. All democrat tricks to steal elections.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 28, 2020 01:35 PM (Z+IKu)
169
But if Trump was really down 17 percent in the polls, you wouldn't have Trump car and boat parades. Nobody held boat parades for Jimmy in 1980.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V
----->Does it feel like biden is up 17?
cue bane voice.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V
----->Does it feel like biden is up 17?
cue bane voice.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 01:35 PM (3XvN1)
170
I have to stop paying attention to any discussion regarding polls. Between Dave in Fla, and every where else it's making me bi-polar.
Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at October 28, 2020 01:35 PM (uy0w8)
171
i realize this may dox me, but while this is anecdotal, where I live we have two orthodox synagogues and most of us are voting Trump. the rest of the town will likely go Biden. However none of us will put a Trump sign on our lawn or cars. This includes the strongly Trump supporting sister of one of Trumps most trusted aide.
Posted by: Avi at October 28, 2020 01:35 PM (dHrq/)
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The actual, legitimate vote will be a landslide for Trump.
The question is how much vote fraud the Democrats can manufacture via straight-out cheating or by corrupt lawyers/judges.
The question is how much vote fraud the Democrats can manufacture via straight-out cheating or by corrupt lawyers/judges.
Posted by: filbert at October 28, 2020 01:35 PM (NiXyF)
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Are there no actual Americans who say, "To have friends, this person needs to align WITH ME?????!!!!"
Posted by: Brunnhilde at October 28, 2020 01:31 PM (E3FAu)
That is a truly Deplorable attitude.
Posted by: Brunnhilde at October 28, 2020 01:31 PM (E3FAu)
That is a truly Deplorable attitude.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 28, 2020 01:35 PM (Kpl3J)
174
I can't wait for the Hitler memes: "You told me I could win from my bunker !!"
Posted by: Zek at October 28, 2020 01:35 PM (r4fw8)
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158 So, the governors in blue swing states will simply close in person voting on Election Day due to COVID concerns.
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I honestly think if it came to that with this election in particular, there would be rioting. And not from the usual suspects.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 28, 2020 01:34 PM (O+I8R)
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If that happens, I would not be surprised if Trump invokes the Insurrection Act and starts arresting Democratic governors.
Closing down voting locations would pretty much be an unvarnished act of insurrection against the federal government.
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I honestly think if it came to that with this election in particular, there would be rioting. And not from the usual suspects.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 28, 2020 01:34 PM (O+I8R)
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If that happens, I would not be surprised if Trump invokes the Insurrection Act and starts arresting Democratic governors.
Closing down voting locations would pretty much be an unvarnished act of insurrection against the federal government.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 01:35 PM (NWM+b)
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Poles are for Strippers.
Polls are for Whores.
Posted by: Abe Lincoln at October 28, 2020 01:22 PM (FPur3)
A dog knows what to do with a poll.
Polls are for Whores.
Posted by: Abe Lincoln at October 28, 2020 01:22 PM (FPur3)
A dog knows what to do with a poll.
Posted by: zombie John Diefenbaker at October 28, 2020 01:35 PM (WGnJH)
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144 Are we still arguing over polls?
This election is over, Trump wins.
I just caught Rich Baris podcast and he has a scoop from Pfizer. They will be releasing their vaccine under emergency use authorization on Nov 20th.
Want to know why that isn't known? Because Fauci wants Moderna to win the race.
So for those who want to know when the Covid madness ends and we return to normal?
November 20th.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 28, 2020 01:33 PM (5p7BC)
Dave, you ever feel like a voice, crying in the Wilderness?? Between fearfulness, and enemy actions fueling it, it seems futile at times.
This election is over, Trump wins.
I just caught Rich Baris podcast and he has a scoop from Pfizer. They will be releasing their vaccine under emergency use authorization on Nov 20th.
Want to know why that isn't known? Because Fauci wants Moderna to win the race.
So for those who want to know when the Covid madness ends and we return to normal?
November 20th.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 28, 2020 01:33 PM (5p7BC)
Dave, you ever feel like a voice, crying in the Wilderness?? Between fearfulness, and enemy actions fueling it, it seems futile at times.
Posted by: tubal at October 28, 2020 01:35 PM (bCLt0)
178
Scott Adams thinks the polls are a Dad Joke. Men lie to pollsters because they think it's funny.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at October 28, 2020 01:35 PM (HabA/)
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130 It isn't so much that I'm demoralized about the election itself...I'm more demoralized about the temper tantrum the Left will throw if/when Trump wins.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (4k/Uz)
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I'm demoralized because for decades I've said that Democrats would vote for a turnip if it had a D after its name -- and this year they will prove me right: half the country is going to vote for a virtual vegetable for president.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (4k/Uz)
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I'm demoralized because for decades I've said that Democrats would vote for a turnip if it had a D after its name -- and this year they will prove me right: half the country is going to vote for a virtual vegetable for president.
Posted by: ShainS at October 28, 2020 01:35 PM (mWjfg)
180
Based on these polls we are supposed to believe braindead Joe fucking Biden would beat Trump, a beloved president, by more than what Obama got in 2008? GTFO. No way.
Posted by: Eli Cash at October 28, 2020 01:36 PM (67sg6)
181
maybe the conspiracy theories are right. maybe they absconded with enough mail in ballots to completely turn everything democrat, then they can pack the court, add 20 new states, and deliver amnesty.
Erase my social media history, sign up for every single government program that has ever existed, and start hoarding basic supplies.
Erase my social media history, sign up for every single government program that has ever existed, and start hoarding basic supplies.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:36 PM (KZzsI)
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Ruh-ro. Biden now pushing people to vote "in person". You know after saying COVID would kill you if you did, and then Democrats mail-in ballot schemes being defeated in almost every court. Mostly their mail-in ballot schemes being defeated.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (VpIIl)
I think it was Dan Bongino who said a couple of weeks ago that the Dims are starting to freak out about mail in voting not working out for them and people had to vote in person
Posted by: Marcus T at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (VpIIl)
I think it was Dan Bongino who said a couple of weeks ago that the Dims are starting to freak out about mail in voting not working out for them and people had to vote in person
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 28, 2020 01:36 PM (mpeBU)
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I'm glad the Left is convincing themselves and worrying us. Would not have it any other way.
Posted by: ... at October 28, 2020 01:36 PM (kcYij)
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On the subject of non-response rate. Baris is trying to take a poll of Wisconsin and is tearing his hair out in frustration.
The number of people who will abandon the poll in the middle, knowing their responses won't be counted?
10:1 Trump supporters.
The number of people who will abandon the poll in the middle, knowing their responses won't be counted?
10:1 Trump supporters.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 28, 2020 01:36 PM (5p7BC)
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i realize this may dox me, but while this is anecdotal, where I live we
have two orthodox synagogues and most of us are voting Trump. the rest
of the town will likely go Biden. However none of us will put a Trump
sign on our lawn or cars. This includes the strongly Trump supporting
sister of one of Trumps most trusted aide.
Jared?? Is that you????
have two orthodox synagogues and most of us are voting Trump. the rest
of the town will likely go Biden. However none of us will put a Trump
sign on our lawn or cars. This includes the strongly Trump supporting
sister of one of Trumps most trusted aide.
Jared?? Is that you????
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 28, 2020 01:36 PM (ZCiJZ)
186
Regarding the bubble- don't think so. The very fact that you hear their constant propaganda tolls against it. They, otoh, never hear you. They are in the bubble. Said another way, the people that always and demonstrably lie to you are lying to you.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 28, 2020 01:36 PM (Hf7hU)
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The stock market dip just prior to the election was entirely predictable.
The Democrat-globalists control enough money to crash the stock markets any time they want to.
And they now want to.
The Democrat-globalists control enough money to crash the stock markets any time they want to.
And they now want to.
Posted by: filbert at October 28, 2020 01:36 PM (NiXyF)
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>>157 This is it, this is the endgame. We're there.
(Lights cigarette, lays head on pillow, knits fingers behind head)
Waiting for the fat lady to swing.
(Lights cigarette, lays head on pillow, knits fingers behind head)
Waiting for the fat lady to swing.
Posted by: Zod at October 28, 2020 01:36 PM (6J5Fm)
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Want to know why that isn't known? Because Fauci wants Moderna to win the race.
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Hint: Buy Moderna stock
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Hint: Buy Moderna stock
Posted by: Moron Robbie's 503 cubic inches say thank you for your windmills and solar panels at October 28, 2020 01:36 PM (SDcEG)
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sorry man- hope is a dangerous thing
it's just me- I take meds for it
Posted by: DB- just DB. at October 28, 2020 01:30 PM
It's not just you. Also, I wonder how my environment is affecting me. I see lots of Biden signs about, then again, I'm in Cali.
The houses without signs, but a flag flying I usually consider a Trump voter.
Near where I live, there are a number of houses with Trump signs. I know where to run when the SHTF.
it's just me- I take meds for it
Posted by: DB- just DB. at October 28, 2020 01:30 PM
It's not just you. Also, I wonder how my environment is affecting me. I see lots of Biden signs about, then again, I'm in Cali.
The houses without signs, but a flag flying I usually consider a Trump voter.
Near where I live, there are a number of houses with Trump signs. I know where to run when the SHTF.
Posted by: InCali at October 28, 2020 01:36 PM (9AFWN)
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Has ANYONE explained how you conduct a random sample, accurate poll, when it's basically impossible to get a truly random sample?
Anyone?
Former (non-political) pollster here.
You use stratified random sampling, so you weight polling responses based on the underlying demographics of the population, which is why you need the demographics of the people you are polling.
For example, you generally get fewer people making $150,000 responding to your poll than there are in the population, so you weight the responses of people making $150,000 more heavily. You also do this for age, political affiliation, race, and anything else that you think is significant.
If you want to rig the poll, you just change the assumed demographics of the underlying population - for example, assume that there are more Democrats in the underlying population. Stratified random sampling will then weight Democrats more heavily.
Anyone?
Former (non-political) pollster here.
You use stratified random sampling, so you weight polling responses based on the underlying demographics of the population, which is why you need the demographics of the people you are polling.
For example, you generally get fewer people making $150,000 responding to your poll than there are in the population, so you weight the responses of people making $150,000 more heavily. You also do this for age, political affiliation, race, and anything else that you think is significant.
If you want to rig the poll, you just change the assumed demographics of the underlying population - for example, assume that there are more Democrats in the underlying population. Stratified random sampling will then weight Democrats more heavily.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 28, 2020 01:37 PM (I2/tG)
192
I know Jon Ralston. He is a very heavy drinker and probably an alcoholic. I have been following his tweets and he is . . . Worried. As he should be.
NV is in play. The Trump Rallys are huge here in NV. I think a lot of Latinos will vote Trump. Many people are sick of our Dem Gov, Sisolak. He has ruined this state.
NV is in play. The Trump Rallys are huge here in NV. I think a lot of Latinos will vote Trump. Many people are sick of our Dem Gov, Sisolak. He has ruined this state.
Posted by: Czech Chick at October 28, 2020 01:37 PM (haWye)
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look at what motivates the customer / client of the pollster.
Nate Silver will sell you ANYTHING if you pay the sniveling little bastard
Nate Silver will sell you ANYTHING if you pay the sniveling little bastard
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at October 28, 2020 01:37 PM (8KSPd)
194
Ok, what the hell.
Trump will win the College in a landslide. He'll win the popular vote and the GOP will take the house. Then he will set himself up as King of the Universe.
There. Fight me.
Trump will win the College in a landslide. He'll win the popular vote and the GOP will take the house. Then he will set himself up as King of the Universe.
There. Fight me.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'invite a friend for dinner' at October 28, 2020 01:37 PM (Gd3Hn)
195
If Biden does win, I propose a Samson Option.
Ask your Lefty contacts why they don't just repeal the Constitution, instead of trying to twist it, which just opens the door to it being twisted back later.
Get them thinking about it, stoke their emotional fires, make the point that it'd get rid of the Electoral College too.
Just get rid of it!
Then when they do it, that's when it's time to point and laugh.
Why is the United States a country? Because every state has ratified the Constitution.
What are we in a legal sense, without that?
50 nations with no legal connection.
Ask your Lefty contacts why they don't just repeal the Constitution, instead of trying to twist it, which just opens the door to it being twisted back later.
Get them thinking about it, stoke their emotional fires, make the point that it'd get rid of the Electoral College too.
Just get rid of it!
Then when they do it, that's when it's time to point and laugh.
Why is the United States a country? Because every state has ratified the Constitution.
What are we in a legal sense, without that?
50 nations with no legal connection.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at October 28, 2020 01:37 PM (psDyo)
196
"Again, it it Democrats and their media Get Out the Vote allies who pushed Democrats to vote early and vote by mail.
Republicans have pushed the idea of in-person voting.
And the Democrat ballot lead is falling day by day, and closing in on 2016's level.
Posted by: Ace at 01:19 PM"
I wonder how much of that "early" vote are Election Day voters being pushed into an earlier window and ergo the Election Day "surge" will be lower.
I suppose in the end that will depend on the total number of people voting, as one factor. They talk about the "early vote". But that is somewhat immaterial until the election is over and you know the total amount of people voting.
Republicans have pushed the idea of in-person voting.
And the Democrat ballot lead is falling day by day, and closing in on 2016's level.
Posted by: Ace at 01:19 PM"
I wonder how much of that "early" vote are Election Day voters being pushed into an earlier window and ergo the Election Day "surge" will be lower.
I suppose in the end that will depend on the total number of people voting, as one factor. They talk about the "early vote". But that is somewhat immaterial until the election is over and you know the total amount of people voting.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 28, 2020 01:37 PM (VpIIl)
197
Rush just said Luntz predicts if the Dodgers won the World Series the Republican wins the White House. Rush said up to now Luntz has been a China Biden winning guy.
Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2020 01:37 PM (OjZpE)
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95 Do not pay attention to the polls. Do not pay attention to the poll's critics. Do not pay attention to the candidates, or their campaigns, or voters, or journalists, or your husband, or your college kid, or the neighbor who sidles up next to you and says, in an offhand manner "sheesh, what an election, huh" and then unburdens himself of his prognostication, or the chick with the beads and the magical cards that tell you if your spouse is cheating.
Pay attention to Zod. Zod knows the election's outcome. It will be told.
Posted by: Zod at October 28, 2020 01:29 PM (6J5Fm)
so am I buying .40 ammo to ship or expecting 9mm ammo shipment?
Pay attention to Zod. Zod knows the election's outcome. It will be told.
Posted by: Zod at October 28, 2020 01:29 PM (6J5Fm)
so am I buying .40 ammo to ship or expecting 9mm ammo shipment?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at October 28, 2020 01:37 PM (ifmtJ)
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I've had caller ID show pollsters trying to call me.
usually when they get to the part of my recorded answer about, "If you're a political caller, I hope you rot in hell", they hang up.
usually when they get to the part of my recorded answer about, "If you're a political caller, I hope you rot in hell", they hang up.
Posted by: Winston dreg of society at October 28, 2020 01:37 PM (d9Irc)
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Grampa, Mom's stuck to the pole again.
Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby at October 28, 2020 01:25 PM (vtcmf)
LOL!
Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby at October 28, 2020 01:25 PM (vtcmf)
LOL!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 28, 2020 01:38 PM (WGnJH)
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Scott Adams thinks the polls are a Dad Joke. Men lie to pollsters because they think it's funny.
As silly as that sounds, I think there is more to that than not. Polling is really self-selecting these days. In the past it was considered horribly rude to just hang up on people and you'd put up with a phone call from someone.
These days its funny to hang up on people and be rude, and people tend to avoid phone calls to begin with, especially those from someone they do not know.
So the responses you get from polling attempts are incredibly self-selective. Only people who want to talk to pollsters are talking to pollsters. And of those, a fair percentage are just jerks and jokesters who want to screw with the system. What percentage? I don't know, but I'm guessing its not insignificant.
As silly as that sounds, I think there is more to that than not. Polling is really self-selecting these days. In the past it was considered horribly rude to just hang up on people and you'd put up with a phone call from someone.
These days its funny to hang up on people and be rude, and people tend to avoid phone calls to begin with, especially those from someone they do not know.
So the responses you get from polling attempts are incredibly self-selective. Only people who want to talk to pollsters are talking to pollsters. And of those, a fair percentage are just jerks and jokesters who want to screw with the system. What percentage? I don't know, but I'm guessing its not insignificant.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:38 PM (KZzsI)
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I just caught Rich Baris podcast and he has a scoop from Pfizer. They
will be releasing their vaccine under emergency use authorization on Nov
20th.
Want to know why that isn't known? Because Fauci wants Moderna to win the race.
So for those who want to know when the Covid madness ends and we return to normal?
Don't take the vaccine for at least 6 months to a year. Good friend manages drug trials. Says trials for these are effed and that people WILL die from it. Wait as long as you can before taking it.
will be releasing their vaccine under emergency use authorization on Nov
20th.
Want to know why that isn't known? Because Fauci wants Moderna to win the race.
So for those who want to know when the Covid madness ends and we return to normal?
Don't take the vaccine for at least 6 months to a year. Good friend manages drug trials. Says trials for these are effed and that people WILL die from it. Wait as long as you can before taking it.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 28, 2020 01:38 PM (ZCiJZ)
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I saw Yesterday Gap open for Joy Division in 87
Posted by: josephistan at October 28, 2020 01:38 PM (Izzlo)
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So for those who want to know when the Covid madness ends and we return to normal? November 20th.
Maybe so but probably not for those of us antisocial rubes who refuse to comply with inoculation.
Maybe so but probably not for those of us antisocial rubes who refuse to comply with inoculation.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 28, 2020 01:38 PM (vtcmf)
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Oddsmakers have Trump currently at +150, which is an implied probability of 40%.
Posted by: ... at October 28, 2020 01:38 PM (kcYij)
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90 A Texas judge just invalidated Gov Abbot's mask exemption for voting ... because it is discriminatory to blacks and hispanics who are more at risk to Covid. This is silly and will be overturned by the 5th, but what a sorry state of affairs we are in in Texas. Thanks Abbot.
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If masks really work, then how it is discriminatory to blacks and hispanics? All they have to do is wear their own masks at the polling places, and they're safe.
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If masks really work, then how it is discriminatory to blacks and hispanics? All they have to do is wear their own masks at the polling places, and they're safe.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 28, 2020 01:38 PM (k4dH2)
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long time moron, been gone a while.
I was contacted by Quinnipiac a couple of days ago and did the poll for my state, a swing state. Took about 7-10 minutes.
I would not trust the polls.
This is a politica age of Game Shows.
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https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/12/26/are-game-show-audiences-trustworthy/
I was contacted by Quinnipiac a couple of days ago and did the poll for my state, a swing state. Took about 7-10 minutes.
I would not trust the polls.
This is a politica age of Game Shows.
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https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/12/26/are-game-show-audiences-trustworthy/
Posted by: BumperStickerist at October 28, 2020 01:38 PM (n1mgo)
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Dave, you ever feel like a voice, crying in the Wilderness?? Between fearfulness, and enemy actions fueling it, it seems futile at times.
Posted by: tubal
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I'm kind of over it now. When I see the obvious errors feeding into the hair on fire, I just drop a fact bomb and move on.
Posted by: tubal
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I'm kind of over it now. When I see the obvious errors feeding into the hair on fire, I just drop a fact bomb and move on.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 28, 2020 01:38 PM (5p7BC)
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"The Democrat-globalists control enough money to crash the stock markets any time they want to."
I predicted it to happen in September. But I meant a real crash, not the blip we're seeing now. So, wrong on both points. I suck at predictions.
I predicted it to happen in September. But I meant a real crash, not the blip we're seeing now. So, wrong on both points. I suck at predictions.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:38 PM (qpX6U)
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205 Oddsmakers have Trump currently at +150, which is an implied probability of 40%.
Posted by: ... at October 28, 2020 01:38 PM (kcYij)
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"It's only 3%! Listen to MEEE!"
-Nate Silveer
Posted by: ... at October 28, 2020 01:38 PM (kcYij)
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"It's only 3%! Listen to MEEE!"
-Nate Silveer
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 01:38 PM (NWM+b)
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BTW, maybe the conspiracy theories are right. maybe they absconded with enough mail in ballots to completely turn everything democrat, then they can pack the court, add 20 new states, and deliver amnesty.
what are you going to do then?
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (3XvN1)
Improvise. Just like I have for the last mumblemumble years.
Okay, not totally improvise. But, well, OPSEC.
what are you going to do then?
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 01:32 PM (3XvN1)
Improvise. Just like I have for the last mumblemumble years.
Okay, not totally improvise. But, well, OPSEC.
Posted by: Mostly Peaceful Grognard at October 28, 2020 01:39 PM (b3x5S)
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If they've got your phone number they probably have your address.
It prolly varies by state, but registered political affiliations are a matter of pub-lick record down here. The two Pubbie Trump doorbell-ringers I've spoken to so far knew both our names. The last guy said people freak out when they find that out, I said I thought everybody knew that.
BTW, The FLaccid State has closed primaries, but there's a referendum on the ballot down here to change that. I'ma No. There's enough shenanigans already. I'd like to see nothing but voting in person with a blood sample drawn at the polling station as proof. But that's just me.
It prolly varies by state, but registered political affiliations are a matter of pub-lick record down here. The two Pubbie Trump doorbell-ringers I've spoken to so far knew both our names. The last guy said people freak out when they find that out, I said I thought everybody knew that.
BTW, The FLaccid State has closed primaries, but there's a referendum on the ballot down here to change that. I'ma No. There's enough shenanigans already. I'd like to see nothing but voting in person with a blood sample drawn at the polling station as proof. But that's just me.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - A vote for Biden is a vote for the ChiComs at October 28, 2020 01:39 PM (HaL55)
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>>so am I buying .40 ammo to ship or expecting 9mm ammo shipment? Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at October 28, 2020 01:37 PM (ifmtJ)
You will be purchasing ammunition for Zod. Because I am cruel but fair, you may welsh on the wager. I would prefer that we increase the stakes.
You will be purchasing ammunition for Zod. Because I am cruel but fair, you may welsh on the wager. I would prefer that we increase the stakes.
Posted by: Zod at October 28, 2020 01:39 PM (6J5Fm)
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I am genuinely alarmed by the prospect of how much cheating is going on. When you look at the Project Veritas videos showing ballot chasing on large volumes, how can anyone have any confidence in what happens next week. They have no qualms about stealing this, and they are actively doing it right now! Today!
Posted by: Kensington at October 28, 2020 01:39 PM (44JhU)
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What are we in a legal sense, without that?
50 nations with no legal connection.
Lefties would love that! We'd be the EU! All we'd need to be perfect would be lots of raping, raping dependent muslims and really, really high taxes!
50 nations with no legal connection.
Lefties would love that! We'd be the EU! All we'd need to be perfect would be lots of raping, raping dependent muslims and really, really high taxes!
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 28, 2020 01:39 PM (ZCiJZ)
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And did y'all see the latest rona talking points? Antibodies fade quickly, so we'll never get to heard immunity. Anybody here well versed in viruses and antibodies? Other literature says that T cells kick in to protect the body for years after recovering. Any morons able to shed light on this?
Posted by: InCali at October 28, 2020 01:39 PM (9AFWN)
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Even with an unbiased assumption, pollsters know their "science/art" has been thoroughly blown away due to changes from COVID.
You have an entirely different demographic answering phones (self selection bias) due to work from home and other variables. They can't possibly have confidence in their results.
You have an entirely different demographic answering phones (self selection bias) due to work from home and other variables. They can't possibly have confidence in their results.
Posted by: theATL at October 28, 2020 01:39 PM (3leHG)
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172 The actual, legitimate vote will be a landslide for Trump.
The question is how much vote fraud the Democrats can manufacture via straight-out cheating or by corrupt lawyers/judges.
Posted by: filbert at October 28, 2020 01:35 PM (NiXyF)
If it's a landslide, they can't steal it.
Fraud works in very close elections, not in landslides.
You won't notice if I take a pen and a paperclip from your office. You'll notice if I take the desk.
The question is how much vote fraud the Democrats can manufacture via straight-out cheating or by corrupt lawyers/judges.
Posted by: filbert at October 28, 2020 01:35 PM (NiXyF)
If it's a landslide, they can't steal it.
Fraud works in very close elections, not in landslides.
You won't notice if I take a pen and a paperclip from your office. You'll notice if I take the desk.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at October 28, 2020 01:39 PM (HabA/)
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Dave, you ever feel like a voice, crying in the Wilderness?? Between fearfulness, and enemy actions fueling it, it seems futile at times.
Posted by: tubal at October 28, 2020 01:35 PM (bCLt0)
*******
Half the posters here are clinically depressed & see a Glass Full of water as a glass that was picked & smashed on the floor
Posted by: tubal at October 28, 2020 01:35 PM (bCLt0)
*******
Half the posters here are clinically depressed & see a Glass Full of water as a glass that was picked & smashed on the floor
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 28, 2020 01:39 PM (asQlL)
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I am on a tiltawhirl - one minute positive and next minute not. In a bubble for sure. Twitter freaks me out then Fla Dave calms me down. Plus half the country are idiots. Arrgh! I just want it over with! At least in 2016 I had no hope!
Posted by: SouthernDiva at October 28, 2020 01:40 PM (THEbT)
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You use stratified random sampling, so you weight polling responses based on the underlying demographics of the population, which is why you need the demographics of the people you are polling.
And that's the key to how you do bogus polls while looking legit. You doctor the demographics or monkey with them so that you get the kind of results you desire.
And that's the key to how you do bogus polls while looking legit. You doctor the demographics or monkey with them so that you get the kind of results you desire.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:40 PM (KZzsI)
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"Scott Adams thinks the polls are a Dad Joke. Men lie to pollsters because they think it's funny."
Sometimes I think SA lies to all his followers because he thinks it's funny.
Sometimes I think SA lies to all his followers because he thinks it's funny.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:40 PM (qpX6U)
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50 Just glanced at HA - Analpundit is going all Poll Troll, posting all the usual numbers showing how Trump is losing Wisconsin and Georgia.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 28, 2020 01:25 PM (Kpl3J)
You know how people try to encourage people who fear despair to call the National Suicide Prevention hotline?
I hope on Tues Analpundits phone is out of minutes.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 28, 2020 01:25 PM (Kpl3J)
You know how people try to encourage people who fear despair to call the National Suicide Prevention hotline?
I hope on Tues Analpundits phone is out of minutes.
Posted by: Bete at October 28, 2020 01:40 PM (Ojki1)
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137 BTW, maybe the conspiracy theories are right. maybe they absconded with enough mail in ballots to completely turn everything democrat, then they can pack the court, add 20 new states, and deliver amnesty.
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Part II is live
James O'Keefe @JamesOKeefeIII
BREAKING: Ballot Chaser Reveals MASSIVE Voter Fraud To Elect @JoeBiden
'Some of my Republicans are precinct chairs that cannot be known...They want to help Biden'
"For the entire team I'm looking at...$55,000"
"$55k for 5k votes, top of the ticket, Hegar/Biden"
#RiggedElection
video here
https://tinyurl.com/y3kz86gy
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
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Part II is live
James O'Keefe @JamesOKeefeIII
BREAKING: Ballot Chaser Reveals MASSIVE Voter Fraud To Elect @JoeBiden
'Some of my Republicans are precinct chairs that cannot be known...They want to help Biden'
"For the entire team I'm looking at...$55,000"
"$55k for 5k votes, top of the ticket, Hegar/Biden"
#RiggedElection
video here
https://tinyurl.com/y3kz86gy
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
Posted by: Braenyard at October 28, 2020 01:40 PM (/wRdn)
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I talked to a few Democrats in DC today. They are very worried about Bobulinski and the energy gaffe Biden made in the debate. Their real issue on Bobulinski is that Joe said he wasn't involved in Hunter's deals. He said that emphatically. This proves beyond a doubt, he WAS involved. That's a simple fact even the most pedestrian voter understand. Further discovery only gets worse from there...
Posted by: Marcus T at October 28, 2020 01:40 PM (VpIIl)
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@205
"Oddsmakers have Trump currently at +150, which is an implied probability of 40%."
My enduring belief is that foreigners do not understand America. Americans by law are not permitted to make direct bets on US elections and so the US money is mostly in weird combination bets /small US sample. A lot of that money is foreign money, that views the US through the lens of CNN/MSNBC and "of course those Americans will want to vote socialist!"
I don't believe all markets are efficient.
"Oddsmakers have Trump currently at +150, which is an implied probability of 40%."
My enduring belief is that foreigners do not understand America. Americans by law are not permitted to make direct bets on US elections and so the US money is mostly in weird combination bets /small US sample. A lot of that money is foreign money, that views the US through the lens of CNN/MSNBC and "of course those Americans will want to vote socialist!"
I don't believe all markets are efficient.
Posted by: Zek at October 28, 2020 01:40 PM (r4fw8)
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Folks?
Market is down because big players are pulling money OUT of the market, until they see the election results, and how much chaos ensues.
How you play the market is really dependent on who wins.
Yes, you can gamble on one or the other winning, and 'may' do well....
But my money is all in cash right now.
Market is down because big players are pulling money OUT of the market, until they see the election results, and how much chaos ensues.
How you play the market is really dependent on who wins.
Yes, you can gamble on one or the other winning, and 'may' do well....
But my money is all in cash right now.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 28, 2020 01:40 PM (NgKpN)
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I think the Wisconsin poll is true and all Democrats shouldn't worry about voting, because Biden has it in the bag.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at October 28, 2020 01:40 PM (WEBkv)
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225 I talked to a few Democrats in DC today. They are very worried about Bobulinski and the energy gaffe Biden made in the debate. Their real issue on Bobulinski is that Joe said he wasn't involved in Hunter's deals. He said that emphatically. This proves beyond a doubt, he WAS involved. That's a simple fact even the most pedestrian voter understand. Further discovery only gets worse from there...
Posted by: Marcus T at October 28, 2020 01:40 PM (VpIIl)
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Weren't they all, "There's no way Biden loses" like a month ago?
Posted by: Marcus T at October 28, 2020 01:40 PM (VpIIl)
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Weren't they all, "There's no way Biden loses" like a month ago?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 01:40 PM (NWM+b)
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The thing is this is not an election of Trump vs. Biden. It is an election of Trump vs. anybody. The biden camp purposely made it a referendum on Trump, not even really campaigning, and they have been pretty successful, until this last week. So Trump love vs Trump hate is the poll you really want.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 28, 2020 01:41 PM (r+sAi)
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So, the governors in blue swing states will simply close in person voting on Election Day due to COVID concerns.
Problem solved.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 28, 2020 01:27 PM (U2p+3)
If that happens, they go before a firing squad, if the mob doesn't get them first.
Problem solved.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 28, 2020 01:27 PM (U2p+3)
If that happens, they go before a firing squad, if the mob doesn't get them first.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 28, 2020 01:41 PM (WGnJH)
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When you look at the Project Veritas videos showing ballot chasing on large volumes, how can anyone have any confidence in what happens next week.
Because they've been doing it since the 1800s. This isn't new, the only new part is that someone actually bothered to go bust them and report on it.
Because they've been doing it since the 1800s. This isn't new, the only new part is that someone actually bothered to go bust them and report on it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:41 PM (KZzsI)
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It's not who votes its who counts the votes and when
Posted by: Le Garde Vieux at October 28, 2020 01:41 PM (agkAc)
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Every* pollster, press whore, politician, pundit and academic in the country is an inveterate liar.
Ignore all of them. Do your part. Get your ass out and vote and drag like-minded people with you if possible. Beyond that, strap in and wait.
* The number for whom this is *not* true will round comfortably to zero, so I am fine with a broad brush on this.
Ignore all of them. Do your part. Get your ass out and vote and drag like-minded people with you if possible. Beyond that, strap in and wait.
* The number for whom this is *not* true will round comfortably to zero, so I am fine with a broad brush on this.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 28, 2020 01:41 PM (hYcqw)
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187 The stock market dip just prior to the election was entirely predictable.
The Democrat-globalists control enough money to crash the stock markets any time they want to.
And they now want to.
Posted by: filbert at October 28, 2020 01:36 PM (NiXyF)
They will have their BUY orders in for the opening bell on Nov. 4, to buy cheap while simultaneously helping juice-up the markets more after PDT wins.
The Democrat-globalists control enough money to crash the stock markets any time they want to.
And they now want to.
Posted by: filbert at October 28, 2020 01:36 PM (NiXyF)
They will have their BUY orders in for the opening bell on Nov. 4, to buy cheap while simultaneously helping juice-up the markets more after PDT wins.
Posted by: Gref at October 28, 2020 01:41 PM (AMIL/)
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232 When you look at the Project Veritas videos showing ballot chasing on large volumes, how can anyone have any confidence in what happens next week.
Because they've been doing it since the 1800s. This isn't new, the only new part is that someone actually bothered to go bust them and report on it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:41 PM (KZzsI)
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Recall the election scene in Gangs of New York.
Because they've been doing it since the 1800s. This isn't new, the only new part is that someone actually bothered to go bust them and report on it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:41 PM (KZzsI)
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Recall the election scene in Gangs of New York.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 01:41 PM (NWM+b)
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**shakes head**
This is feeling too much like 2012 again. The polls are wrong, the rallies are enthusiastic, the confident columns that Romney had it in the bag. . .
Sorry. I pray - I really do - that Teh Donald has a blowout that makes Reagan / Mondale look like a Podunk dog-catcher race, but I can't put my hope in it. The Democrat fraud machine is too well-oiled for me to be confident.
I will be happy to come here on November 4 and eat a big steaming plate of crow, but until then, I'm not going to give myself false hope.
This is feeling too much like 2012 again. The polls are wrong, the rallies are enthusiastic, the confident columns that Romney had it in the bag. . .
Sorry. I pray - I really do - that Teh Donald has a blowout that makes Reagan / Mondale look like a Podunk dog-catcher race, but I can't put my hope in it. The Democrat fraud machine is too well-oiled for me to be confident.
I will be happy to come here on November 4 and eat a big steaming plate of crow, but until then, I'm not going to give myself false hope.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 28, 2020 01:41 PM (2JVJo)
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Ace links to "The Hill." The comments over there are a sewer of ignorance, failed attempts at humor, leftist conspiracy theories, and juvenile name-calling. Shocking to see what "real" America is like.
Mommy, I'm afraid. My only comfort is to curl up here at AoS surrounded by the soft pillows of sanity, humor and smarts.
Mommy, I'm afraid. My only comfort is to curl up here at AoS surrounded by the soft pillows of sanity, humor and smarts.
Posted by: zombie at October 28, 2020 01:41 PM (HEEq1)
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Just listened to the Jack / Ted Cruz thing.
Either Jack really has no clue how his own company functions, or he's one big lying sack of shit.
Either Jack really has no clue how his own company functions, or he's one big lying sack of shit.
Posted by: Hunter Biden at October 28, 2020 01:41 PM (Zz0t1)
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Even though the polls seem to be saying exactly what the media imbeciles want them to say you'd think someone would acknowledge that Biden is falling apart, has run a bizarre campaign and recently appeared to have a stroke on stage.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 28, 2020 01:41 PM (lgiXo)
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Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 28, 2020 01:39 PM (asQlL)
You haven't been right about anything yet. Hopefully a Trump victory will be a first.
You haven't been right about anything yet. Hopefully a Trump victory will be a first.
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at October 28, 2020 01:41 PM (2DOZq)
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The inflated polls are not meant to be accurate; they exist to give plausibility to the coming theft.
Posted by: Atlas at October 28, 2020 01:41 PM (s6bQ5)
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Don't take the vaccine for at least 6 months to a year. Good friend manages drug trials. Says trials for these are effed and that people WILL die from it. Wait as long as you can before taking it.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World
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Check with you friend if they are talking about the Moderna trial or not. That is the reason Moderna is losing this race.
But Fauci's buddies own Moderna, so he has his thumb on the scale.
I look forward to that asshole being assigned to Alaska in November.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World
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Check with you friend if they are talking about the Moderna trial or not. That is the reason Moderna is losing this race.
But Fauci's buddies own Moderna, so he has his thumb on the scale.
I look forward to that asshole being assigned to Alaska in November.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 28, 2020 01:41 PM (5p7BC)
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Cheat by mail says Biden wins 57 states!
Posted by: Michael L Blair at October 28, 2020 01:41 PM (yiAMj)
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240 Even though the polls seem to be saying exactly what the media imbeciles want them to say you'd think someone would acknowledge that Biden is falling apart, has run a bizarre campaign and recently appeared to have a stroke on stage.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 28, 2020 01:41 PM (lgiXo)
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They'll admit it soon.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 28, 2020 01:41 PM (lgiXo)
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They'll admit it soon.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 01:42 PM (NWM+b)
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208 Thanks, Dave. I appreciate your truth bombs. They actually make all the insanity going on around us seem less...dire.
Also ,to all of you out there, send cost-effective Thanksgiving, Christmas, Hanukkah or New Year's menus to CBD!! There's a cookbook waiting for the one he likes the best, and I frankly, look forward to cooking all of these offerings!!!
Also ,to all of you out there, send cost-effective Thanksgiving, Christmas, Hanukkah or New Year's menus to CBD!! There's a cookbook waiting for the one he likes the best, and I frankly, look forward to cooking all of these offerings!!!
Posted by: moki at October 28, 2020 01:42 PM (+X9Vs)
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Seems like it might be time for Vespa Thunder to unleash one of his patented Allah tirades.
Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at October 28, 2020 01:42 PM (o2MD2)
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>>I will be happy to come here on November 4 and eat a big steaming plate of crow, but until then, I'm not going to give myself false hope.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 28, 2020 01:41 PM (2JVJo)
(wipes greasy spoon on shirttail, pulls up a stool)
If we must eat, we will eat together.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 28, 2020 01:41 PM (2JVJo)
(wipes greasy spoon on shirttail, pulls up a stool)
If we must eat, we will eat together.
Posted by: Zod at October 28, 2020 01:42 PM (6J5Fm)
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Damn crackhead sock....
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at October 28, 2020 01:43 PM (Zz0t1)
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Do I win anything if all my predictions come true? I mean I really put myself out there. My reputation as a Cannibal predictor is at stake.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'invite a friend for dinner' at October 28, 2020 01:43 PM (Gd3Hn)
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The thing is this is not an election of Trump vs. Biden. It is an election of Trump vs. anybody. The biden camp purposely made it a referendum on Trump, not even really campaigning, and they have been pretty successful, until this last week. So Trump love vs Trump hate is the poll you really want.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
---->bold strategy to repeat 2004 dnc strategy.
Trump has higher job approval than OBama or W.
so, this strategy is just donor fan service, not an actual thought out thing.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
---->bold strategy to repeat 2004 dnc strategy.
Trump has higher job approval than OBama or W.
so, this strategy is just donor fan service, not an actual thought out thing.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 01:43 PM (3XvN1)
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"I will be happy to come here on November 4 and eat a big steaming plate of crow, but until then, I'm not going to give myself false hope."
I'm just glad I voted yesterday, Makes me feel like it's over already. Handed it to The Fates.
I'm just glad I voted yesterday, Makes me feel like it's over already. Handed it to The Fates.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:43 PM (qpX6U)
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Has ANYONE explained how you conduct a random sample, accurate poll,
when it's basically impossible to get a truly random sample?
Anyone?
Posted by: BurtTC at October 28, 2020 01:28 PM (hku12)
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It's been almost 30 years since I took Communication Statistics, and I've considered this a lot. You don't want a random sample, you want an accurate sample. By definition, you can't identify patterns with random information. There's a LOT that goes into doing a poll correctly. Thinking about it from an early-1990s-methodology point of view, I really don't see how it's possible in 2020, if for no other reason than the fact that people know who's calling before they answer the phone. That alone skews every sampling nearly to the point of invalidity.
Also, I have great fun looking at modern polls, and seeing that the things pollsters do are, precisely and without fail, straight off the list of the things we were taught that pollsters should never, ever do. My Comm Stat prof, a really good guy, is probably spinning in his grave.
Has ANYONE explained how you conduct a random sample, accurate poll,
when it's basically impossible to get a truly random sample?
Anyone?
Posted by: BurtTC at October 28, 2020 01:28 PM (hku12)
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It's been almost 30 years since I took Communication Statistics, and I've considered this a lot. You don't want a random sample, you want an accurate sample. By definition, you can't identify patterns with random information. There's a LOT that goes into doing a poll correctly. Thinking about it from an early-1990s-methodology point of view, I really don't see how it's possible in 2020, if for no other reason than the fact that people know who's calling before they answer the phone. That alone skews every sampling nearly to the point of invalidity.
Also, I have great fun looking at modern polls, and seeing that the things pollsters do are, precisely and without fail, straight off the list of the things we were taught that pollsters should never, ever do. My Comm Stat prof, a really good guy, is probably spinning in his grave.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at October 28, 2020 01:43 PM (+3rQF)
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Concern level: heightened. How do we know dems turnout ON 11/3 won't be bigger than ours? If we are voting early, how can we predict that our 11/3 turnout will match 2016?
Posted by: Eli Cash at October 28, 2020 01:43 PM (67sg6)
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can't wait to gig some left friends over this. polls lied to you? again? the shame is on you, dummy.
Posted by: x at October 28, 2020 01:44 PM (0tE/i)
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"so am I buying .40 ammo to ship or expecting 9mm ammo shipment? Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at October 28, 2020 01:37 PM (ifmtJ)"
I just picked up 20 rounds of Summit .50 BMG this morning. Let's see how it shoots. Never tried it before.
I just picked up 20 rounds of Summit .50 BMG this morning. Let's see how it shoots. Never tried it before.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 28, 2020 01:44 PM (VpIIl)
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"Doesn't matter at all what the polls say.
Just vote. Do your job. And let the chips fall where they may."
Critical that you go vote. Pick the liberal you least like and go nullify their vote.
Extra incentive.
Just vote. Do your job. And let the chips fall where they may."
Critical that you go vote. Pick the liberal you least like and go nullify their vote.
Extra incentive.
Posted by: boynsea at October 28, 2020 01:44 PM (Fks5r)
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You have an entirely different demographic answering phones (self selection bias) due to work from home and other variables. They can't possibly have confidence in their results.
Posted by: theATL at October 28, 2020 01:39 PM (3leHG)
One reason why they might be hugely undercounting white blue collar voters. Dude who is welding or melding the roads is not answering his phone to talk to strangers. Soi boi techie working from home is happy to tell pollsters how much he hates Trump.
Rich Baris has spoken about how Main Line PA voters with post-grad degrees are routinely overpolled.
Posted by: theATL at October 28, 2020 01:39 PM (3leHG)
One reason why they might be hugely undercounting white blue collar voters. Dude who is welding or melding the roads is not answering his phone to talk to strangers. Soi boi techie working from home is happy to tell pollsters how much he hates Trump.
Rich Baris has spoken about how Main Line PA voters with post-grad degrees are routinely overpolled.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at October 28, 2020 01:44 PM (HabA/)
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This is feeling too much like 2012 again. The polls are wrong, the rallies are enthusiastic, the confident columns that Romney had it in the bag. . .
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it could be. But it could be 2016.
I think the voter registration edge and enthusiasm gap is real and clearly shows the polls are set up wrong.
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it could be. But it could be 2016.
I think the voter registration edge and enthusiasm gap is real and clearly shows the polls are set up wrong.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 01:44 PM (3XvN1)
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So Biden 58-41 in Wisconsin.
I don't see it.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 28, 2020 01:29 PM (YA914)
You are not looking properly, comrade.
Please to be reporting to the camps, to re-educate your eyeballs.
Immediately.
I don't see it.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 28, 2020 01:29 PM (YA914)
You are not looking properly, comrade.
Please to be reporting to the camps, to re-educate your eyeballs.
Immediately.
Posted by: American GRU at October 28, 2020 01:44 PM (hku12)
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A positive for Trump that I have observed is that hispanics do not care for the covid hysteria. I suspect they really hate all of the talk of shutting things down again.
Posted by: Brian at October 28, 2020 01:44 PM (eV752)
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Sorry. I pray - I really do - that Teh Donald has a blowout that makes Reagan / Mondale look like a Podunk dog-catcher race, but I can't put my hope in it. The Democrat fraud machine is too well-oiled for me to be confident.
I am okay with this attitude. Its fine to be down and not filled with confidence at this point. I'm in the same boat. My gut tells me Trump wins, but its been wrong before.
Because if he wins, its only upside. Thinking he'll win and finding Biden wins is crushing and miserable.
I am okay with this attitude. Its fine to be down and not filled with confidence at this point. I'm in the same boat. My gut tells me Trump wins, but its been wrong before.
Because if he wins, its only upside. Thinking he'll win and finding Biden wins is crushing and miserable.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:44 PM (KZzsI)
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I will be happy to come here on November 4 and eat a big steaming plate of crow, but until then, I'm not going to give myself false hope.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
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You better pick out some good condiments.
I love you MPPP, but on November 4th you are going to be dining.
This thing is over.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
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You better pick out some good condiments.
I love you MPPP, but on November 4th you are going to be dining.
This thing is over.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 28, 2020 01:44 PM (5p7BC)
Posted by: Diesel Jones - Temperance advocate at October 28, 2020 01:44 PM (0CeRG)
Posted by: Archer at October 28, 2020 01:45 PM (gmo/4)
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Check with you friend if they are talking about the Moderna trial or not. That is the reason Moderna is losing this race.
According to her, ALL of the accelerated trials are bad simply because they are accelerated and not following the accepted safety protocols. She is a person who gets things like the flu shot every year and she will NOT take this one. Or anything involved mrna and Bill Gates.
According to her, ALL of the accelerated trials are bad simply because they are accelerated and not following the accepted safety protocols. She is a person who gets things like the flu shot every year and she will NOT take this one. Or anything involved mrna and Bill Gates.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 28, 2020 01:45 PM (ZCiJZ)
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>>>Ace I implore you to please, feature the new Lincoln Project commercial, at least in the sidebar. I understand the trepidation but it is a massive own goal. Also hilarious. Maybe the highlight of the campaign for me.
https://tinyurl.com/y2z3jf96
Posted by: ... at October 28, 2020 01:24 PM (kcYij)
Hahahah!!! OMG!!! LOL LOL LOL!!!
It's so glorious!
https://tinyurl.com/y2z3jf96
Posted by: ... at October 28, 2020 01:24 PM (kcYij)
Hahahah!!! OMG!!! LOL LOL LOL!!!
It's so glorious!
Posted by: Max Power at October 28, 2020 01:45 PM (q177U)
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When they include the "ballot chasers', like the one in Project Veritas that collected and changed over 5,000 votes in Texas (TGP front page), maybe the ABC poll is including them.
And that ballot chaser O'Keefe found is the only one we know about. Do you think that there are no other ballot chasers out there?
Whether Soros money or BLM-Bezos-Hollywood money, these ballot chasers are getting paid bank. $55 grand for a few weeks work is good stuff for someone with no care for the law. There has got to be a lot of them out there.
Only 4 of them equal the 20,000 that come to a Trump rally.
4 of them. James O'Keefe only found one of them. Speculating there are many, many more. This is real vote stealing in action.
When they include the "ballot chasers', like the one in Project Veritas that collected and changed over 5,000 votes in Texas (TGP front page), maybe the ABC poll is including them.
And that ballot chaser O'Keefe found is the only one we know about. Do you think that there are no other ballot chasers out there?
Whether Soros money or BLM-Bezos-Hollywood money, these ballot chasers are getting paid bank. $55 grand for a few weeks work is good stuff for someone with no care for the law. There has got to be a lot of them out there.
Only 4 of them equal the 20,000 that come to a Trump rally.
4 of them. James O'Keefe only found one of them. Speculating there are many, many more. This is real vote stealing in action.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 28, 2020 01:45 PM (sy5kK)
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254 Concern level: heightened. How do we know dems turnout ON 11/3 won't be bigger than ours? If we are voting early, how can we predict that our 11/3 turnout will match 2016?
Posted by: Eli Cash at October 28, 2020 01:43 PM (67sg6)
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History and knowledge of who's voting and how they've voted in the past.
Democratic voters never turn out in as great of numbers as Republican on election day since early voting started.
And, based on past voting patterns of those left to vote, the super voters (those who have voted 4/4 in the last general elections) from the Republican side have about 35% left while Democrats have about 10%.
Democrats chewed through their high propensity voters to get where they are now. Republicans still have a lot.
Posted by: Eli Cash at October 28, 2020 01:43 PM (67sg6)
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History and knowledge of who's voting and how they've voted in the past.
Democratic voters never turn out in as great of numbers as Republican on election day since early voting started.
And, based on past voting patterns of those left to vote, the super voters (those who have voted 4/4 in the last general elections) from the Republican side have about 35% left while Democrats have about 10%.
Democrats chewed through their high propensity voters to get where they are now. Republicans still have a lot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 01:45 PM (NWM+b)
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185 i realize this may dox me, but while this is anecdotal, where I live we
have two orthodox synagogues and most of us are voting Trump. the rest
of the town will likely go Biden. However none of us will put a Trump
sign on our lawn or cars. This includes the strongly Trump supporting
sister of one of Trumps most trusted aide.
Jared?? Is that you????
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 28, 2020 01:36 PM (ZCiJZ)
shhh
he was my neighbor
have two orthodox synagogues and most of us are voting Trump. the rest
of the town will likely go Biden. However none of us will put a Trump
sign on our lawn or cars. This includes the strongly Trump supporting
sister of one of Trumps most trusted aide.
Jared?? Is that you????
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 28, 2020 01:36 PM (ZCiJZ)
shhh
he was my neighbor
Posted by: Avi at October 28, 2020 01:45 PM (dHrq/)
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We don't even know if Trump wears boxers or shorts.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 28, 2020 01:45 PM (pB6Gt)
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"I just picked up 20 rounds of Summit .50 BMG this morning. Let's see how it shoots. Never tried it before."
Save your brass. I can't believe the expensive exotic brass that some people leave behind at the range.
Save your brass. I can't believe the expensive exotic brass that some people leave behind at the range.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:45 PM (qpX6U)
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Posted by: ... at October 28, 2020 01:24 PM (kcYij)
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HAHAhHAHAHAHAH That is ridicuous. Hilarious. Sad. Pathetic.
Posted by: ... at October 28, 2020 01:24 PM (kcYij)
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HAHAhHAHAHAHAH That is ridicuous. Hilarious. Sad. Pathetic.
Posted by: Seems Legit at October 28, 2020 01:45 PM (jUVms)
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222 "Scott Adams thinks the polls are a Dad Joke. Men lie to pollsters because they think it's funny."
Sometimes I think SA lies to all his followers because he thinks it's funny.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:40 PM (qpX6U)
SA has bragged about lying to everyone because he thinks it's funny.
Sometimes I think SA lies to all his followers because he thinks it's funny.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:40 PM (qpX6U)
SA has bragged about lying to everyone because he thinks it's funny.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 28, 2020 01:45 PM (Kpl3J)
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237 Mary,
Be not afraid, when ABC is putting out 17 percent lead in WI, they know that they are putting out a lie which is no different than their lies on Covid, the Russian dossier, etc.
Devil Mouse, the parent company wants bidness with China (slave labor and as a market) as do other corporate conglomerates which happen to own or influence media properties--but it is not real.
But, like the late Soviet Union when the press was declaring that every thing was fine in the Union, the walls in East Berlin are being thrown down and the guards and secret police are scurrying for ratholes to hide in.
Be not afraid, when ABC is putting out 17 percent lead in WI, they know that they are putting out a lie which is no different than their lies on Covid, the Russian dossier, etc.
Devil Mouse, the parent company wants bidness with China (slave labor and as a market) as do other corporate conglomerates which happen to own or influence media properties--but it is not real.
But, like the late Soviet Union when the press was declaring that every thing was fine in the Union, the walls in East Berlin are being thrown down and the guards and secret police are scurrying for ratholes to hide in.
Posted by: whig at October 28, 2020 01:45 PM (pO7gM)
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"until the election is over and you know the total amount of people voting"
Wow! I didn't know we had 500 million voters in the country.
Wow! I didn't know we had 500 million voters in the country.
Posted by: Case at October 28, 2020 01:45 PM (CBO5D)
Posted by: browndog at October 28, 2020 01:46 PM (BgMrQ)
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There are tens of millions of votes already in in places like Florida and North Carolina, not only two swing states but two bellwether states. Why don't they matter more than media polls?
Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2020 01:46 PM (ZLI7S)
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DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN
Posted by: Lance McCormick, fighting an undead horse at October 28, 2020 01:46 PM (l8gTz)
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Lefties would love that! We'd be the EU! All we'd need to be perfect would be lots of raping, raping dependent muslims and really, really high taxes!
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 28, 2020 01:39 PM
We wouldn't be the EU. The EU is legally bound to each other. There'd be no alliance, trade pact, etc.
Nothing. 50 new nations created at a shot.
Start from scratch or go your own way.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 28, 2020 01:39 PM
We wouldn't be the EU. The EU is legally bound to each other. There'd be no alliance, trade pact, etc.
Nothing. 50 new nations created at a shot.
Start from scratch or go your own way.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at October 28, 2020 01:46 PM (psDyo)
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Broke: "We need to extend the lockdown indefinitely until there is a vaccine!"
Woke: "Holy fuck! Vote in person!!!"
Woke: "Holy fuck! Vote in person!!!"
Posted by: Azathoth at October 28, 2020 01:46 PM (Mp+Ti)
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@237 Mary Poppins
"This is feeling too much like 2012 again. The polls are wrong, the rallies are enthusiastic, the confident columns that Romney had it in the bag. . . "
Nobody liked Romney. Everyone was holding their nose. And the other side had a very popular incumbent. Half the country may not like Trump, but half the country does and no one likes Biden.
"This is feeling too much like 2012 again. The polls are wrong, the rallies are enthusiastic, the confident columns that Romney had it in the bag. . . "
Nobody liked Romney. Everyone was holding their nose. And the other side had a very popular incumbent. Half the country may not like Trump, but half the country does and no one likes Biden.
Posted by: squid_hunt at October 28, 2020 01:46 PM (B0mGw)
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If they're polling Madison and Milwaukee they probably can get to plus 17.
If they're polling the rest of the state no way. The rally in Waukesha brought 45000 people out.
My theory as to what is going on. Most people who will vote for Trump or who have voted for Trump are saying they're going to vote for Biden, why that'll make a Trump victory that much more satisfying than 2016. Can you imagine but Biden was supposed to be ahead in Wisconsin by plus 17. I think people are just playing the media now.
If they're polling the rest of the state no way. The rally in Waukesha brought 45000 people out.
My theory as to what is going on. Most people who will vote for Trump or who have voted for Trump are saying they're going to vote for Biden, why that'll make a Trump victory that much more satisfying than 2016. Can you imagine but Biden was supposed to be ahead in Wisconsin by plus 17. I think people are just playing the media now.
Posted by: Brat4life at October 28, 2020 01:46 PM (zhi1G)
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One reason why they might be hugely undercounting white blue collar voters. Dude who is welding or melding the roads is not answering his phone to talk to strangers. Soi boi techie working from home is happy to tell pollsters how much he hates Trump.
Exactly. Even if they were trying to get an accurate read, they can't. Its not possible given the modern situation. Which is what Rassmussen wrote about in 2012: polling doesn't work any more. Its ruined and we do not know how to make it work.
Polling is a relic from the 20th century. 20 years in we're still relying on it as if it works, and it barely worked back then.
Exactly. Even if they were trying to get an accurate read, they can't. Its not possible given the modern situation. Which is what Rassmussen wrote about in 2012: polling doesn't work any more. Its ruined and we do not know how to make it work.
Polling is a relic from the 20th century. 20 years in we're still relying on it as if it works, and it barely worked back then.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:46 PM (KZzsI)
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HAHAhHAHAHAHAH That is ridicuous. Hilarious. Sad. Pathetic.
Posted by: Seems Legit at October 28, 2020 01:45 PM (jUVms)
I remember back when they said GWB was going to appoint himself emperor for life........
Ah, the good ole days.
HAHAhHAHAHAHAH That is ridicuous. Hilarious. Sad. Pathetic.
Posted by: Seems Legit at October 28, 2020 01:45 PM (jUVms)
I remember back when they said GWB was going to appoint himself emperor for life........
Ah, the good ole days.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at October 28, 2020 01:46 PM (Zz0t1)
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254 Concern level: heightened. How do we know dems turnout ON 11/3 won't be bigger than ours? If we are voting early, how can we predict that our 11/3 turnout will match 2016?
Posted by: Eli Cash
pants shitting fear of covid will keep them home
Posted by: Eli Cash
pants shitting fear of covid will keep them home
Posted by: x at October 28, 2020 01:47 PM (0tE/i)
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Plugs is going to be making a special appearance with Gaylord in Michigan, despite having previously called a "lid" on further campaign events.
Yeah, that sounds like someone who's confident of victory, doesn't it?
Yeah, that sounds like someone who's confident of victory, doesn't it?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 28, 2020 01:47 PM (VikfB)
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Dave in Fla - you keep me sane! Please keep posting your facts!
Posted by: SouthernDiva at October 28, 2020 01:47 PM (THEbT)
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>>>Ace I implore you to please, feature the new Lincoln Project commercial, at least in the sidebar. I understand the trepidation but it is a massive own goal. Also hilarious. Maybe the highlight of the campaign for me.
https://tinyurl.com/y2z3jf96
Posted by: ... at October 28, 2020 01:24 PM (kcYij)
Hahahah!!! OMG!!! LOL LOL LOL!!!
It's so glorious!
Posted by: Max Power at October 28, 2020 01:45 PM (q177U)
It reminds me of the 2014 NARAL radio ads set in the grimdark dystopia where Cory Gardner banned birth control.
https://tinyurl.com/y2z3jf96
Posted by: ... at October 28, 2020 01:24 PM (kcYij)
Hahahah!!! OMG!!! LOL LOL LOL!!!
It's so glorious!
Posted by: Max Power at October 28, 2020 01:45 PM (q177U)
It reminds me of the 2014 NARAL radio ads set in the grimdark dystopia where Cory Gardner banned birth control.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 28, 2020 01:47 PM (t+qrx)
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OANN has story on right now that Facebook is rejecting Trump ads. While the CEO is testifying on Capitol Hill that they are not censoring Trump
Posted by: Jen the original at October 28, 2020 01:47 PM (0Qj1S)
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I think a lot of Republicans are voting early (in person). I also think there will, therefore, be less Republicans voting on election day. As a result, I would not put any stock in the fact that Republicans are not to far behind in early voting.
Posted by: Brian at October 28, 2020 01:34 PM (eV752)
I think this is wise, but remember the "polls" told us the D's were going to vote early on a 2-1 basis.
So either the polls are garbage and mean nothing... or the polls are garbage and mean nothing. There is no in between.
Posted by: Brian at October 28, 2020 01:34 PM (eV752)
I think this is wise, but remember the "polls" told us the D's were going to vote early on a 2-1 basis.
So either the polls are garbage and mean nothing... or the polls are garbage and mean nothing. There is no in between.
Posted by: ... at October 28, 2020 01:47 PM (kcYij)
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"SA has bragged about lying to everyone because he thinks it's funny."
I KNEW there was a reason I thought that.
But wait ... maybe he was lying when he bragged that.
I KNEW there was a reason I thought that.
But wait ... maybe he was lying when he bragged that.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:47 PM (qpX6U)
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"The Democrat-globalists control enough money to crash the stock markets any time they want to."
I predicted it to happen in September. But I meant a real crash, not the blip we're seeing now. So, wrong on both points. I suck at predictions.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:38 PM (qpX6U)
Y'know, I was convinced that Frau Gruppencankles would have Bill whacked out in mid-Oct 2016, just to generate the sympathy vote. But of course, she thought she had it all in the bag and just needed to coast to victory, so Bill dodged a bullet... possibly literally. So I'm not so hot at predictions either.
On the other hand, there's probably an even-money chance of Hunter having a despondent overdose or a tragic "suicide" by salad-shooter in the next couple of days. Which of course will be blamed on the New York Post and Trump.
"The Democrat-globalists control enough money to crash the stock markets any time they want to."
I predicted it to happen in September. But I meant a real crash, not the blip we're seeing now. So, wrong on both points. I suck at predictions.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:38 PM (qpX6U)
Y'know, I was convinced that Frau Gruppencankles would have Bill whacked out in mid-Oct 2016, just to generate the sympathy vote. But of course, she thought she had it all in the bag and just needed to coast to victory, so Bill dodged a bullet... possibly literally. So I'm not so hot at predictions either.
On the other hand, there's probably an even-money chance of Hunter having a despondent overdose or a tragic "suicide" by salad-shooter in the next couple of days. Which of course will be blamed on the New York Post and Trump.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 28, 2020 01:48 PM (EGyGV)
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I'm kind of over it now. When I see the obvious errors feeding into the hair on fire, I just drop a fact bomb and move on.
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I'm way less concerned with the polling being off (because I think it is, wildly). I am very concerned, otoh, with fraud. I wish I could believe they can "only cheat so much" and that it won't be enough. I can't get there when I keep seeing things like Project Veritas' latest. Not to mention Biden's Freudian slip the other day. There is a massive operation of fraud happening. That is what worries me to the core.
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I'm way less concerned with the polling being off (because I think it is, wildly). I am very concerned, otoh, with fraud. I wish I could believe they can "only cheat so much" and that it won't be enough. I can't get there when I keep seeing things like Project Veritas' latest. Not to mention Biden's Freudian slip the other day. There is a massive operation of fraud happening. That is what worries me to the core.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 28, 2020 01:48 PM (O+I8R)
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I don't think the election will be decided by November 4th. I think the cheating and lawsuits will be like Gore/Bush race on super steroids. I feel as if Trump would win if this were a legitimate election.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 28, 2020 01:48 PM (WkPC9)
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vote and make a small to medium donation to trump and a red senator up for election.
if you feel like helping, that's how you help.
if you're really feeling useful, then volunteer.
if you feel like helping, that's how you help.
if you're really feeling useful, then volunteer.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 01:48 PM (3XvN1)
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The covid, the lockdowns, and the riots are part of dem strategy I am convinced.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 28, 2020 01:48 PM (r+sAi)
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Concern level: heightened. How do we know dems turnout ON 11/3 won't be bigger than ours? If we are voting early, how can we predict that our 11/3 turnout will match 2016?
Posted by: Eli Cash
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Because we have voter files to measure who is left to vote and how often they vote in elections.
We know that they plan to vote, and that they haven't voted yet.
They still HAVE to vote, but since they always vote, its a good bet they will.
Posted by: Eli Cash
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Because we have voter files to measure who is left to vote and how often they vote in elections.
We know that they plan to vote, and that they haven't voted yet.
They still HAVE to vote, but since they always vote, its a good bet they will.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 28, 2020 01:48 PM (5p7BC)
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And did y'all see the latest rona talking points? Antibodies fade
quickly, so we'll never get to heard immunity. Anybody here well versed
in viruses and antibodies? Other literature says that T cells kick in to
protect the body for years after recovering. Any morons able to shed
light on this?
Yep. You're being lied to on purpose.
quickly, so we'll never get to heard immunity. Anybody here well versed
in viruses and antibodies? Other literature says that T cells kick in to
protect the body for years after recovering. Any morons able to shed
light on this?
Yep. You're being lied to on purpose.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - A vote for Biden is a vote for the ChiComs at October 28, 2020 01:48 PM (HaL55)
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According to her, ALL of the accelerated trials are bad simply because they are accelerated and not following the accepted safety protocols.
I think they should do the trials of this vaccine on governors and legislators first, to see if they work or you get flipper babies.
I think they should do the trials of this vaccine on governors and legislators first, to see if they work or you get flipper babies.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:48 PM (KZzsI)
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Do I win anything if all my predictions come true? I mean I really put myself out there. My reputation as a Cannibal predictor is at stake.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'invite a friend for dinner' at October 28, 2020 01:43 PM (Gd3Hn)
You are a true bellwether of the Anthropophagic-American contingent.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'invite a friend for dinner' at October 28, 2020 01:43 PM (Gd3Hn)
You are a true bellwether of the Anthropophagic-American contingent.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at October 28, 2020 01:48 PM (yQpMk)
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Are there no actual Americans who say, "To have friends, this person needs to align WITH ME?????!!!!"
Posted by: Brunnhilde at October 28, 2020 01:31 PM (E3FAu)
That is a truly Deplorable attitude.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 28, 2020 01:
I THINK this may have something to do with my anti -social attitude. I understand that people are herd animals and see what they do to stay "in the herd." But Americans are supposed to be different. And there is the problem: our forefathers thought they could create a country and a structure to insure that we, those who left a constricting, totalitarian area (Europe), would stay free-thinking and free of our government. They even tried to over-come what they KNEW was the human condition.
Poor guys. It was an impossible task. And this is why I absolutely hate people. It is actually sort of petty in a way, but I am really quite an asshole...
Posted by: Brunnhilde at October 28, 2020 01:31 PM (E3FAu)
That is a truly Deplorable attitude.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 28, 2020 01:
I THINK this may have something to do with my anti -social attitude. I understand that people are herd animals and see what they do to stay "in the herd." But Americans are supposed to be different. And there is the problem: our forefathers thought they could create a country and a structure to insure that we, those who left a constricting, totalitarian area (Europe), would stay free-thinking and free of our government. They even tried to over-come what they KNEW was the human condition.
Poor guys. It was an impossible task. And this is why I absolutely hate people. It is actually sort of petty in a way, but I am really quite an asshole...
Posted by: Brunnhilde at October 28, 2020 01:48 PM (E3FAu)
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Able to grab three boxes of Winchester 9mm Silver Tip JHP at $14.99 to add to my carry ammo stock.
Anyone shoot this?
Anyone shoot this?
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at October 28, 2020 01:48 PM (2DOZq)
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Stop citing the big crowds Trump is drawing as any reason he can win.
A) Dem voters didn't show up for Hillary rallies, by and large, and she was damn close to winning all the swing states
B) Dem voters are, by and large, hiding under their beds, and would never attend a Biden "rally" on literal pain of death, after gleefully shaming and sharing all the stories of Trump supporters getting the deadly virus at his rallies
Therefore, with a puppet candidate and a voter base that has and continues to treat covid like the Black Death, it is expected that Biden should have no crowds wherever he goes. His millions of supporters hide and vote from home.
After the weeks of counting and counting, Biden will win in a landslide as all the polls suggest.
A) Dem voters didn't show up for Hillary rallies, by and large, and she was damn close to winning all the swing states
B) Dem voters are, by and large, hiding under their beds, and would never attend a Biden "rally" on literal pain of death, after gleefully shaming and sharing all the stories of Trump supporters getting the deadly virus at his rallies
Therefore, with a puppet candidate and a voter base that has and continues to treat covid like the Black Death, it is expected that Biden should have no crowds wherever he goes. His millions of supporters hide and vote from home.
After the weeks of counting and counting, Biden will win in a landslide as all the polls suggest.
Posted by: esstah at October 28, 2020 01:49 PM (qwTxQ)
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The question is how much vote fraud the Democrats can manufacture via straight-out cheating or by corrupt lawyers/judges.
Posted by: filbert at October 28, 2020 01:35 PM (NiXyF)
What we are forgetting is that if we end up with a disputed election due to large scale fraud, Trump will NOT simply shrug his shoulders and say "too bad, see you all" the way Nixon did in '60. He'll fight and take it to the courts.
And Trump has appointed a shit ton of federal judges - plus ACB.
That's why the press keeps trying to get him to say he'll concede if he loses - and why he won't.
Posted by: filbert at October 28, 2020 01:35 PM (NiXyF)
What we are forgetting is that if we end up with a disputed election due to large scale fraud, Trump will NOT simply shrug his shoulders and say "too bad, see you all" the way Nixon did in '60. He'll fight and take it to the courts.
And Trump has appointed a shit ton of federal judges - plus ACB.
That's why the press keeps trying to get him to say he'll concede if he loses - and why he won't.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at October 28, 2020 01:49 PM (HabA/)
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LOL. The hard-Left alt-weekly in Minneapolis just went out of business. I guess some more people are going to be learning how to code.
Meanwhile, Portland still has two alt-weeklies that need to go out of business.
A sample yesterday from the more "respectable" of the two:
Where were you the night Donald Trump was elected president?
For some, that's like asking what they were doing the morning of Sept. 11, or during the Challenger explosion, or any other shared American tragedy. For others, the specifics of Nov. 8, 2016, have been blurred by time, the shock of the moment, or lots and lots of alcohol.
Meanwhile, Portland still has two alt-weeklies that need to go out of business.
A sample yesterday from the more "respectable" of the two:
Where were you the night Donald Trump was elected president?
For some, that's like asking what they were doing the morning of Sept. 11, or during the Challenger explosion, or any other shared American tragedy. For others, the specifics of Nov. 8, 2016, have been blurred by time, the shock of the moment, or lots and lots of alcohol.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 28, 2020 01:49 PM (I2/tG)
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Nobody liked Romney. Everyone was holding their nose. And the other side had a very popular incumbent. Half the country may not like Trump, but half the country does and no one likes Biden.
Posted by: squid_hunt at October 28, 2020 01:46 PM (B0mGw
If anyone believed Joe Biden is a decent man at least a few people would like him.
Posted by: squid_hunt at October 28, 2020 01:46 PM (B0mGw
If anyone believed Joe Biden is a decent man at least a few people would like him.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 28, 2020 01:49 PM (lgiXo)
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"Able to grab three boxes of Winchester 9mm Silver Tip JHP at $14.99 to add to my carry ammo stock."
Ten rounds per box? Good deal these days.
Ten rounds per box? Good deal these days.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:50 PM (qpX6U)
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259 This is feeling too much like 2012 again. The polls are wrong, the rallies are enthusiastic, the confident columns that Romney had it in the bag. .
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Except:
1. Romney gave up
2. Trump ain't Romney
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Except:
1. Romney gave up
2. Trump ain't Romney
Posted by: ... at October 28, 2020 01:50 PM (kcYij)
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B) Dem voters are, by and large, hiding under their beds, and would never attend a Biden "rally" on literal pain of death, after gleefully shaming and sharing all the stories of Trump supporters getting the deadly virus at his rallies
Therefore, with a puppet candidate and a voter base that has and continues to treat covid like the Black Death, it is expected that Biden should have no crowds wherever he goes. His millions of supporters hide and vote from home.
After the weeks of counting and counting, Biden will win in a landslide as all the polls suggest.
Posted by: esstah at October 28, 2020 01:49 PM (qwTxQ)
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And they probably didn't even ask for an absentee ballot because Biden was just so far ahead in the polls that it didn't matter.
B) Dem voters are, by and large, hiding under their beds, and would never attend a Biden "rally" on literal pain of death, after gleefully shaming and sharing all the stories of Trump supporters getting the deadly virus at his rallies
Therefore, with a puppet candidate and a voter base that has and continues to treat covid like the Black Death, it is expected that Biden should have no crowds wherever he goes. His millions of supporters hide and vote from home.
After the weeks of counting and counting, Biden will win in a landslide as all the polls suggest.
Posted by: esstah at October 28, 2020 01:49 PM (qwTxQ)
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And they probably didn't even ask for an absentee ballot because Biden was just so far ahead in the polls that it didn't matter.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 01:50 PM (NWM+b)
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304 Stop citing the big crowds Trump is drawing as any reason he can win.
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citing:
GOP voter enthusiasm
GOP registration edge over democrats
Trump job approval better than W or Obama.
Biden not campaigning
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citing:
GOP voter enthusiasm
GOP registration edge over democrats
Trump job approval better than W or Obama.
Biden not campaigning
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 01:50 PM (3XvN1)
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Not to sound like a concern troll here, but I can't tell if this cycle is going to be a repeat of 2012, a repeat of 2016, or something else all together.
The uncertainty is a bit ... concerning.
The uncertainty is a bit ... concerning.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 28, 2020 01:50 PM (cnTJD)
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> After the weeks of counting and counting, Biden will win in a landslide as all the polls suggest.
Your concern has been noted.
Your concern has been noted.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 28, 2020 01:50 PM (VikfB)
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Anyone shoot this?
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at October 28, 2020 01:48 PM (2DOZq)
Not shooting anything....hoarding.
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at October 28, 2020 01:48 PM (2DOZq)
Not shooting anything....hoarding.
Posted by: BignJames at October 28, 2020 01:50 PM (AwYPR)
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Plugs is going to be making a special appearance with Gaylord in Michigan, despite having previously called a "lid" on further campaign events.
Yeah, that sounds like someone who's confident of victory, doesn't it?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 28, 2020 01:47 PM (VikfB)
Drawing a crowd estimated in the tens, no doubt.
Meanwhile, Race Bannon is in Flint today and PDT is coming back for seconds on Friday, after several thousand supporters waited in cold rain to see him yesterday.
Yeah, that sounds like someone who's confident of victory, doesn't it?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 28, 2020 01:47 PM (VikfB)
Drawing a crowd estimated in the tens, no doubt.
Meanwhile, Race Bannon is in Flint today and PDT is coming back for seconds on Friday, after several thousand supporters waited in cold rain to see him yesterday.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 28, 2020 01:50 PM (t+qrx)
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Ace links to "The Hill." The comments over there are a sewer of ignorance, failed attempts at humor, leftist conspiracy theories, and juvenile name-calling. Shocking to see what "real" America is like.
Mommy, I'm afraid. My only comfort is to curl up here at AoS surrounded by the soft pillows of sanity, humor and smarts.
Posted by: zombie
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i mentioned up at #67 that I'm spending some time with the best and the brightest. People who speak in paragraphs, use smooth and neutral language, have terabytes of data at their fingertips, and work with 0s and 1s are part of the same "real" America. Add pillows.
Ace links to "The Hill." The comments over there are a sewer of ignorance, failed attempts at humor, leftist conspiracy theories, and juvenile name-calling. Shocking to see what "real" America is like.
Mommy, I'm afraid. My only comfort is to curl up here at AoS surrounded by the soft pillows of sanity, humor and smarts.
Posted by: zombie
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i mentioned up at #67 that I'm spending some time with the best and the brightest. People who speak in paragraphs, use smooth and neutral language, have terabytes of data at their fingertips, and work with 0s and 1s are part of the same "real" America. Add pillows.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 28, 2020 01:51 PM (G51Gf)
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311 304 Stop citing the big crowds Trump is drawing as any reason he can win.
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citing:
GOP voter enthusiasm
GOP registration edge over democrats
Trump job approval better than W or Obama.
Biden not campaigning
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 01:50 PM (3XvN1)
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And...
BIDEN HAS NO GROUND GAME AT ALL.
It's political malpractice, but it's the truth.
---->
citing:
GOP voter enthusiasm
GOP registration edge over democrats
Trump job approval better than W or Obama.
Biden not campaigning
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 01:50 PM (3XvN1)
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And...
BIDEN HAS NO GROUND GAME AT ALL.
It's political malpractice, but it's the truth.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 01:51 PM (NWM+b)
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"I'm not going to talk about the new polls, though I'll mention a new ABC polls that claims Biden is ahead in Wisconsin... by 17 points."
The only way ABC could know Biden is up by 17 points would be to to know how much the Dems are cheating by. Could they by any chance coordinating with the Dems in the cheating?
The only way ABC could know Biden is up by 17 points would be to to know how much the Dems are cheating by. Could they by any chance coordinating with the Dems in the cheating?
Posted by: Dusty at October 28, 2020 01:51 PM (Dsoqf)
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292 "SA has bragged about lying to everyone because he thinks it's funny."
I KNEW there was a reason I thought that.
But wait ... maybe he was lying when he bragged that.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:47 PM (qpX6U)
He, very subtly, plays both sides of the street.
On his subject material, he's very good.
On things outside his sphere of knowledge, he's as uninformed as the rest of us.
His takes on polling and what the polls tell us is so wrong.
I KNEW there was a reason I thought that.
But wait ... maybe he was lying when he bragged that.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:47 PM (qpX6U)
He, very subtly, plays both sides of the street.
On his subject material, he's very good.
On things outside his sphere of knowledge, he's as uninformed as the rest of us.
His takes on polling and what the polls tell us is so wrong.
Posted by: browndog at October 28, 2020 01:51 PM (BgMrQ)
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Polling is a relic from the 20th century. 20 years in we're still relying on it as if it works, and it barely worked back then.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:46 PM (KZzsI)
Pollsters are down to being code breakers. One thing says this. Another piece of data says that. Some other nugget fills in a piece of the puzzle. They could probably give decent guesses of who is leading and if it is a significant lead. But, I agree. The days of candidate X leads by Y% are done.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:46 PM (KZzsI)
Pollsters are down to being code breakers. One thing says this. Another piece of data says that. Some other nugget fills in a piece of the puzzle. They could probably give decent guesses of who is leading and if it is a significant lead. But, I agree. The days of candidate X leads by Y% are done.
Posted by: Joe B at October 28, 2020 01:51 PM (J70i0)
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A) Dem voters didn't show up for Hillary rallies, by and large, and she was damn close to winning all the swing states
Quite a few people showed up for Hillary rallies - she relied on celebrities to get turnout up.
Here rallies weren't a graveyard like Biden rallies.
Quite a few people showed up for Hillary rallies - she relied on celebrities to get turnout up.
Here rallies weren't a graveyard like Biden rallies.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 28, 2020 01:51 PM (I2/tG)
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A) Dem voters didn't show up for Hillary rallies, by and large, and she was damn close to winning all the swing states
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But she didn't.
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But she didn't.
Posted by: That Guy (formerly SH) at October 28, 2020 01:51 PM (sX1BW)
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Dem voters are, by and large, hiding under their beds, and would never attend a Biden "rally" on literal pain of death, after gleefully shaming and sharing all the stories of Trump supporters getting the deadly virus at his rallies
I think this is accurate but... even were it not true, he wouldn't pull Trump-style rallies, even with the bused people. There's just not the enthusiasm for him or Kamala.
I think this is accurate but... even were it not true, he wouldn't pull Trump-style rallies, even with the bused people. There's just not the enthusiasm for him or Kamala.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:51 PM (KZzsI)
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Plugs is going to be making a special appearance with Gaylord in Michigan, despite having previously called a "lid" on further campaign events.
*****
Shit Midas to the rescue!
*****
Shit Midas to the rescue!
Posted by: Azathoth at October 28, 2020 01:51 PM (Mp+Ti)
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@307 Northernlurker
At this point, Biden has lost the ability to mask his weaknesses and he just comes across as a dirty old man.
At this point, Biden has lost the ability to mask his weaknesses and he just comes across as a dirty old man.
Posted by: squid_hunt at October 28, 2020 01:51 PM (B0mGw)
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> 2. Trump ain't Romney
This cannot be stressed enough.
I'm so glad I didn't vote for that backstabbing cocksucker.
I still feel bad about voting for Fuckstain McCain, but at least I don't have Romney guilt.
This cannot be stressed enough.
I'm so glad I didn't vote for that backstabbing cocksucker.
I still feel bad about voting for Fuckstain McCain, but at least I don't have Romney guilt.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 28, 2020 01:51 PM (VikfB)
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83 BurtTC,
You have to use a Census approach where they take random tracts and send someone door to door to gather information. They use that to correct the known unknown problem of non response data. You use that to correct your lists and it is VERY expensive because the Census person is required to verify the information of each person in the tract.
Did surveying for the Census and Ag dept. in the day and that is how they created the gold std. You have a master list which has errors but then must verify the degree of accuracy by random tract sampling of everyone in that geographic tract with secondary verification (local FSA for AG, Post office for Census)
You have to use a Census approach where they take random tracts and send someone door to door to gather information. They use that to correct the known unknown problem of non response data. You use that to correct your lists and it is VERY expensive because the Census person is required to verify the information of each person in the tract.
Did surveying for the Census and Ag dept. in the day and that is how they created the gold std. You have a master list which has errors but then must verify the degree of accuracy by random tract sampling of everyone in that geographic tract with secondary verification (local FSA for AG, Post office for Census)
Posted by: whig at October 28, 2020 01:51 PM (pO7gM)
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"The uncertainty is a bit ... concerning."
Well then, the universe is concerning. What's certain, after all?
Well then, the universe is concerning. What's certain, after all?
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:52 PM (qpX6U)
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---->bold strategy to repeat 2004 dnc strategy.
Trump has higher job approval than OBama or W.
so, this strategy is just donor fan service, not an actual thought out thing.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 01:43 PM (3XvN1)
252 "I will be happy to come here on November 4 and eat a big steami
*******
Facts don't matter for someone who is depressed
Trump has higher job approval than OBama or W.
so, this strategy is just donor fan service, not an actual thought out thing.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 01:43 PM (3XvN1)
252 "I will be happy to come here on November 4 and eat a big steami
*******
Facts don't matter for someone who is depressed
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 28, 2020 01:52 PM (asQlL)
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Jeepers,
Do I really have to /s on an obviously sarcastic comment?
Y'all are waaaaaay too freaked. Have a cocktail. Smoke a joint.
Calm the fuck down.
Trump wants to win. And he has no intention of it being even close.
Do I really have to /s on an obviously sarcastic comment?
Y'all are waaaaaay too freaked. Have a cocktail. Smoke a joint.
Calm the fuck down.
Trump wants to win. And he has no intention of it being even close.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 28, 2020 01:52 PM (U2p+3)
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pants shitting fear of covid will keep them home
Posted by: x at October 28, 2020 01:47 PM (0tE/i)
Heh. I would go vote for Trump if I knew for a fact I would get covid.
Posted by: x at October 28, 2020 01:47 PM (0tE/i)
Heh. I would go vote for Trump if I knew for a fact I would get covid.
Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at October 28, 2020 01:52 PM (o2MD2)
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After the weeks of counting and counting, Biden will win in a landslide as all the polls suggest.
Posted by: esstah at October 28, 2020 01:49 PM (qwTxQ)
Trump has lawyers too. And judges. A lot of judges.
I truly hope we don't have that outcome. It would be terrible. But he'll fight tooth and nail if he thinks he didn't legitimately lose.
But I don't think he'll lose.
Posted by: esstah at October 28, 2020 01:49 PM (qwTxQ)
Trump has lawyers too. And judges. A lot of judges.
I truly hope we don't have that outcome. It would be terrible. But he'll fight tooth and nail if he thinks he didn't legitimately lose.
But I don't think he'll lose.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at October 28, 2020 01:52 PM (HabA/)
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Last Marquette Poll before election for WI.
Biden 48, Trump 43, Undecided 8
They're supposed to be the gold standard for WI but they got 2016 wrong didn't they.
Biden 48, Trump 43, Undecided 8
They're supposed to be the gold standard for WI but they got 2016 wrong didn't they.
Posted by: WisRich at October 28, 2020 01:52 PM (G0vdT)
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In related news, Kamala Harris is People's 'Sexiest Woman Alive.'
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 28, 2020 01:52 PM (v2c9/)
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17 point lead
Okay pollster. Why?
Why would that have occurred - use facts logic and you may even speculate a bit. I'll listen as long as it isn't magical thinking and wish fulfillment.
Okay pollster. Why?
Why would that have occurred - use facts logic and you may even speculate a bit. I'll listen as long as it isn't magical thinking and wish fulfillment.
Posted by: Dubious T. Dubious - Judge and Cleanser of Fraudulent Pollsters at October 28, 2020 01:52 PM (fZ0ny)
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After the weeks of counting and counting, Biden will win in a landslide as all the polls suggest.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 28, 2020 01:50 PM (VikfB)
1% x 50 states = 50%...yep.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 28, 2020 01:50 PM (VikfB)
1% x 50 states = 50%...yep.
Posted by: BignJames at October 28, 2020 01:52 PM (AwYPR)
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Everything out there other than the polls screams a Trump win. Awesome first term performance, job approval, voter enthusiasm, YUUUGE Biden scandal...
Concerns about it working out are:Likely voter fraudNews/social media fraud2012--I was all in on "the polls are wrong" and that one hurt...
Will the expectation for Trump voters to vastly outnumber Biden voters on Election Day pan out? Personally I voted in person early because I don't trust Governor Blackface not to declare a state of emergency on election day and shut the polls at 10 am. I wouldn't vote by mail, but early? Absolutely, because there is nothing that would change my mind in this election, so why not get it done early.
Concerns about it working out are:Likely voter fraudNews/social media fraud2012--I was all in on "the polls are wrong" and that one hurt...
Will the expectation for Trump voters to vastly outnumber Biden voters on Election Day pan out? Personally I voted in person early because I don't trust Governor Blackface not to declare a state of emergency on election day and shut the polls at 10 am. I wouldn't vote by mail, but early? Absolutely, because there is nothing that would change my mind in this election, so why not get it done early.
Posted by: Matt at October 28, 2020 01:52 PM (MUp5h)
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I don't think the election will be decided by November 4th. I think the cheating and lawsuits will be like Gore/Bush race on super steroids. I feel as if Trump would win if this were a legitimate election.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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I think you are wrong. AZ, FL, TX, and NC will be called on November 4th at the latest.
Trump will be sitting at 260 EVs and holding enough of a lead in the rust belt to get over 270. The Democrats will let it go, since they know they will lose. They won't want their election tricks exposed, because if they are then they will be forced to clean up the rolls and implement election controls. This is what happened in 2018 when they pushed to hard trying to cheat for Gillam.
Florida has cleaned up the process, and they can't cheat in SE Florida like they used to.
They will want to save it for an election where they can use it to win.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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I think you are wrong. AZ, FL, TX, and NC will be called on November 4th at the latest.
Trump will be sitting at 260 EVs and holding enough of a lead in the rust belt to get over 270. The Democrats will let it go, since they know they will lose. They won't want their election tricks exposed, because if they are then they will be forced to clean up the rolls and implement election controls. This is what happened in 2018 when they pushed to hard trying to cheat for Gillam.
Florida has cleaned up the process, and they can't cheat in SE Florida like they used to.
They will want to save it for an election where they can use it to win.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 28, 2020 01:52 PM (5p7BC)
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The covid, the lockdowns, and the riots are part of dem strategy I am convinced.
I was never in doubt that that was the case. It's the only reason for still being locked down and forced to wear a mask.
None of this is necessary and anybody with two functioning brain cells to rub together knows it. Just remember back to all the other flu epidemics we've lived through: none of this current bullshit was done or even proposed.
Seriously. We're quarantining healthy people?? RUFKM?? Who was the imbecile (or group of imbeciles) who came up with that? And WTFF is wrong with them to even think up such a thing?
I was never in doubt that that was the case. It's the only reason for still being locked down and forced to wear a mask.
None of this is necessary and anybody with two functioning brain cells to rub together knows it. Just remember back to all the other flu epidemics we've lived through: none of this current bullshit was done or even proposed.
Seriously. We're quarantining healthy people?? RUFKM?? Who was the imbecile (or group of imbeciles) who came up with that? And WTFF is wrong with them to even think up such a thing?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - A vote for Biden is a vote for the ChiComs at October 28, 2020 01:52 PM (HaL55)
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"I just picked up 20 rounds of Summit .50 BMG this morning. Let's see how it shoots. Never tried it before."
Save your brass. I can't believe the expensive exotic brass that some people leave behind at the range.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:45 PM (qpX6U)
No kidding. I went to the range for the first time in about a year last weekend. Dood next to me was shooting a 300 Win Mag boltie. Ran through about 30 rounds of good Federal ammo and left all the brass on the ground. I don't see myself reloading 300 Win Mag anytime so I didn't pick them up.
Didn't stop the range master from jumping on them.
"I just picked up 20 rounds of Summit .50 BMG this morning. Let's see how it shoots. Never tried it before."
Save your brass. I can't believe the expensive exotic brass that some people leave behind at the range.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:45 PM (qpX6U)
No kidding. I went to the range for the first time in about a year last weekend. Dood next to me was shooting a 300 Win Mag boltie. Ran through about 30 rounds of good Federal ammo and left all the brass on the ground. I don't see myself reloading 300 Win Mag anytime so I didn't pick them up.
Didn't stop the range master from jumping on them.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 28, 2020 01:53 PM (EGyGV)
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I wrote about this issue back in 2008, and what I said then remains true -- and it's a BIG issue that no one(even the poll doubters on our side) ever considers:
Polling companies ned to make thousands upon thousands upon thousands of calls just to get a few hundred answers. So it's a very time-consuking, labor-intensive process. Which means that polling companies can't pay the grunt workers who actually sit there making the calls very much per hour, otherwise it would be prohibitively expensive.
As a result, polling is a minimum wage job, and always has been.
Who applies for and takes minimum wage jobs?
Well, to be blunt: young people. College-age.
Now in he modern world, everyone knows that young people and college-age people skew WAY left. Trump voters tend to be old. Dem voters tend in general to be young.
So when you hear a young voice on the phone, you're pretty much convinced that you are talking to a liberal.
So: Who in the right mind would confess to a liberal stranger on the phone that you were a Trump voter?
Especially since you really have no idea if this really is a polling company, or just some Antifa scam to doxx "fascists."
So the very nature of polling is ALWAYS going to have a leftist skew, since the minimum wage aspect of the job means that young people, hence liberals, will be the ones making the calls.
This factor alone is enough to render any and all polls useless.
Polling companies ned to make thousands upon thousands upon thousands of calls just to get a few hundred answers. So it's a very time-consuking, labor-intensive process. Which means that polling companies can't pay the grunt workers who actually sit there making the calls very much per hour, otherwise it would be prohibitively expensive.
As a result, polling is a minimum wage job, and always has been.
Who applies for and takes minimum wage jobs?
Well, to be blunt: young people. College-age.
Now in he modern world, everyone knows that young people and college-age people skew WAY left. Trump voters tend to be old. Dem voters tend in general to be young.
So when you hear a young voice on the phone, you're pretty much convinced that you are talking to a liberal.
So: Who in the right mind would confess to a liberal stranger on the phone that you were a Trump voter?
Especially since you really have no idea if this really is a polling company, or just some Antifa scam to doxx "fascists."
So the very nature of polling is ALWAYS going to have a leftist skew, since the minimum wage aspect of the job means that young people, hence liberals, will be the ones making the calls.
This factor alone is enough to render any and all polls useless.
Posted by: zombie at October 28, 2020 01:53 PM (HEEq1)
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I switched my registration from Republican to Independent in 2016, and haven't changed back. Cuts WAY down on political junk mail. I don't much like the GOP anymore but I utterly LOATHE the demonrats.
Posted by: I Have Questions at October 28, 2020 01:53 PM (+v+zN)
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And...
BIDEN HAS NO GROUND GAME AT ALL.
It's political malpractice, but it's the truth.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 01:51 PM (NWM+b)
He has signs and that's it. I guess all of the non-graft money is going into the ballot harvesting division of the organization.
BIDEN HAS NO GROUND GAME AT ALL.
It's political malpractice, but it's the truth.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 01:51 PM (NWM+b)
He has signs and that's it. I guess all of the non-graft money is going into the ballot harvesting division of the organization.
Posted by: Joe B at October 28, 2020 01:53 PM (J70i0)
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I don't believe Biden is up by 17. Looking at things from now, I don't believe Hillary won the popular vote in 2016. Spontaneous Trump parades all over California, New York......if it weren't for fraud I think Trump actually would win them both. I believe a certain amount of fraud is baked into the cake with Democrats. As others have pointed out they're good at it and have been doing it for decades. Get up this morning and not a f'ing peep about Tony Bobulinski reminds me of who is in charge. The left is. I prefer to be optimistic, but damn........
Posted by: JROD at October 28, 2020 01:53 PM (0jZnq)
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> Shit Midas to the rescue!
Hah! Now I'm humming that to the tune of the old "Jim Dandy" song.
Shit Midas to the rescue!
Shit Midas to the rescue!
Shit Midas to the rescue!
Go, Shit Midas! Go!
Hah! Now I'm humming that to the tune of the old "Jim Dandy" song.
Shit Midas to the rescue!
Shit Midas to the rescue!
Shit Midas to the rescue!
Go, Shit Midas! Go!
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 28, 2020 01:53 PM (VikfB)
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with a puppet candidate and a voter base that has and continues to treat covid like the Black Death, it is expected that Biden should have no crowds wherever he goes. His millions of supporters hide
Posted by: esstah
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LA Dodgers supporters indicate No.
with a puppet candidate and a voter base that has and continues to treat covid like the Black Death, it is expected that Biden should have no crowds wherever he goes. His millions of supporters hide
Posted by: esstah
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LA Dodgers supporters indicate No.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 28, 2020 01:53 PM (G51Gf)
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I don't think the election will be decided by November 4th. I think the cheating and lawsuits will be like Gore/Bush race on super steroids. I feel as if Trump would win if this were a legitimate election.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 28, 2020 01:48 PM (WkPC9)
There is a threshold of votes above which they mathematically cannot cheat themselves enough votes to win. If you're sure whether he's over that threshold, then get more out to vote for him until you're sure.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 28, 2020 01:48 PM (WkPC9)
There is a threshold of votes above which they mathematically cannot cheat themselves enough votes to win. If you're sure whether he's over that threshold, then get more out to vote for him until you're sure.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 28, 2020 01:53 PM (t+qrx)
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"Save your brass. I can't believe the expensive exotic brass that some people leave behind at the range.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:45 PM (qpX6U)"
I have a giant box of .50 brass. A lot of it is once fired Barrett rounds. The only time I don't take brass is when I give it to some of the kids. They love watching the M82 shoot and they get a kick out of the .50 brass. Some day, I will learn to reload.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:45 PM (qpX6U)"
I have a giant box of .50 brass. A lot of it is once fired Barrett rounds. The only time I don't take brass is when I give it to some of the kids. They love watching the M82 shoot and they get a kick out of the .50 brass. Some day, I will learn to reload.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 28, 2020 01:53 PM (VpIIl)
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42 as Rush said if all Libtards do is lie, why would they not lie about polls ??? HMMMM
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 28, 2020 01:25 PM (asQlL)
Likewise - why should we believe that leftists wont knowingly vote for Biden regardless of whether he's a known corrupt traitor?
They voted Ted Kennedy into the senate for decades.
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 28, 2020 01:25 PM (asQlL)
Likewise - why should we believe that leftists wont knowingly vote for Biden regardless of whether he's a known corrupt traitor?
They voted Ted Kennedy into the senate for decades.
Posted by: Defenestratus at October 28, 2020 01:53 PM (9V81o)
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Not to sound like a concern troll here, but I can't tell if this cycle is going to be a repeat of 2012, a repeat of 2016, or something else all together.
If Trump wins its going to be more like 1980, I think. Not 84 or 88, but a major win. Incumbents tend to win bigger than their original election. 2016 was an aberration, it can't be realistically expected more than once a century, if that.
If Trump wins its going to be more like 1980, I think. Not 84 or 88, but a major win. Incumbents tend to win bigger than their original election. 2016 was an aberration, it can't be realistically expected more than once a century, if that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:53 PM (KZzsI)
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Maybe so but probably not for those of us antisocial rubes who refuse to comply with inoculation.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 28, 2020 01:38 PM (vtcmf)
I would consider getting a vaccine from a reliable, long-established pharma like Pfizer. But certainly not anything that Bill Gates had his greasy fingers in.
And I am willing to let others go first...
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 28, 2020 01:38 PM (vtcmf)
I would consider getting a vaccine from a reliable, long-established pharma like Pfizer. But certainly not anything that Bill Gates had his greasy fingers in.
And I am willing to let others go first...
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 28, 2020 01:53 PM (+00E3)
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Not to sound like a concern troll here, but I can't tell if this cycle is going to be a repeat of 2012, a repeat of 2016, or something else all together.
The uncertainty is a bit ... concerning.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 28, 2020 01:50 PM (cnTJD)
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It is, Harry. But There is little to do other than vote and help others on the right side do the same, and hope that Trump is as aggressive as he needs to be on fraud should it occur at scale (which I think is a certainty).
It is all broken. Everyone is a liar and in the tank. There is a huge probability of fraud. Both sides will claim fraud. It's going to be a nightmare.
I am just trying not let it spike my BP. Every single facet of the system is broken, both government and non-government. There are no limits, no Rubicons, nothing that cannot be justified. And yes, it is hair-raising.
The uncertainty is a bit ... concerning.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 28, 2020 01:50 PM (cnTJD)
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It is, Harry. But There is little to do other than vote and help others on the right side do the same, and hope that Trump is as aggressive as he needs to be on fraud should it occur at scale (which I think is a certainty).
It is all broken. Everyone is a liar and in the tank. There is a huge probability of fraud. Both sides will claim fraud. It's going to be a nightmare.
I am just trying not let it spike my BP. Every single facet of the system is broken, both government and non-government. There are no limits, no Rubicons, nothing that cannot be justified. And yes, it is hair-raising.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 28, 2020 01:53 PM (hYcqw)
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"On his subject material, he's very good."
He's a genius on the absurdity of corporate cubicle life. On his professed expertise about "persuasion techniques," I think he is completely full of shit.
He's a genius on the absurdity of corporate cubicle life. On his professed expertise about "persuasion techniques," I think he is completely full of shit.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:53 PM (qpX6U)
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I'm tellin' y'all:
Trump's gonna landslide the legit vote.
Dems have put all of their chips on cheating/stealing the election.
Their win, if it happens, will NOT be "legitimate."
No fucking way.
Trump's gonna landslide the legit vote.
Dems have put all of their chips on cheating/stealing the election.
Their win, if it happens, will NOT be "legitimate."
No fucking way.
Posted by: filbert at October 28, 2020 01:53 PM (NiXyF)
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Trump wants to win. And he has no intention of it being even close.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 28, 2020 01:52 PM (U2p+3)
this
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 28, 2020 01:52 PM (U2p+3)
this
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at October 28, 2020 01:53 PM (ifmtJ)
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And did y'all see the latest rona talking points? Antibodies fade quickly, so we'll never get to heard immunity. Anybody here well versed in viruses and antibodies? Other literature says that T cells kick in to protect the body for years after recovering. Any morons able to shed light on this?
Posted by: InCali at October 28, 2020 01:39 PM (9AFWN)
The pertinent phrase is "for the duration of the crisis". Once extreme measures are permitted as a response to some real or imagined crisis, the crisis is never allowed to end.
Posted by: InCali at October 28, 2020 01:39 PM (9AFWN)
The pertinent phrase is "for the duration of the crisis". Once extreme measures are permitted as a response to some real or imagined crisis, the crisis is never allowed to end.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at October 28, 2020 01:54 PM (psDyo)
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Will the expectation for Trump voters to vastly outnumber Biden voters on Election Day pan out?
Posted by: Matt
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They will. Trump voters will outnumber Biden voters at least 2:1.
Posted by: Matt
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They will. Trump voters will outnumber Biden voters at least 2:1.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 28, 2020 01:54 PM (5p7BC)
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Posted by: esstah at October 28, 2020 01:49 PM (qwTxQ)
if you say so.
****twirls finger about ear****
if you say so.
****twirls finger about ear****
Posted by: browndog at October 28, 2020 01:54 PM (BgMrQ)
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Anyone seen that girl? She's supposed to start my "foot rub." I really really need it.
Anyone seen that girl? She's supposed to start my "foot rub." I really really need it.
Posted by: Hunter Biden at October 28, 2020 01:54 PM (rXie1)
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It just occurred to me that most of the NeverTrumpers have by now reclassified themselves as independents. Or Democrats.
So that Republican vote does not contain many defectors.
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May contain defectors from the other side.
So that Republican vote does not contain many defectors.
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May contain defectors from the other side.
Posted by: runner at October 28, 2020 01:54 PM (dTqaU)
Posted by: Braenyard at October 28, 2020 01:54 PM (/wRdn)
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I've received a number of text poll requests from lefty organizations. I don't respond because I'm not stupid. I'm not about to help the enemy. Although, I have done a number of type/delete responses.
Posted by: Beartooth at October 28, 2020 01:54 PM (6yYEv)
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He has signs and that's it. I guess all of the non-graft money is going into the ballot harvesting division of the organization.
Which honestly isn't that expensive. This is going to be the most money ever spent by a candidate in an election for Biden and he's showing the least campaign. I don't think they're really even trying to win so much as its a gigantic grift.
Which honestly isn't that expensive. This is going to be the most money ever spent by a candidate in an election for Biden and he's showing the least campaign. I don't think they're really even trying to win so much as its a gigantic grift.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:55 PM (KZzsI)
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I'm way less concerned with the polling being off (because I think it is, wildly). I am very concerned, otoh, with fraud. I wish I could believe they can "only cheat so much" and that it won't be enough. I can't get there when I keep seeing things like Project Veritas' latest. Not to mention Biden's Freudian slip the other day. There is a massive operation of fraud happening. That is what worries me to the core.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 28, 2020 01:48 PM (O+I8R)
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Yeah, but, the DNC has to know how many votes they need to manufacture and they need time to get them manufactured.
With the polls being screwed up, those people are in the dark about how many and where, along with PDT moving to keep the DNC from counting votes after the fact.
So, in the end, screwed up polls may hinder the DNC more than help.
I'm quite sure most Trump supporters have the game figured out and will make sure they get out and vote.
I also believe PDT will move to shut down charges of "voter fraud" by letting the DNC know he's open to investigating voter fraud, which is probably a Pandora's Box the DNC would rather not open.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 28, 2020 01:48 PM (O+I8R)
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Yeah, but, the DNC has to know how many votes they need to manufacture and they need time to get them manufactured.
With the polls being screwed up, those people are in the dark about how many and where, along with PDT moving to keep the DNC from counting votes after the fact.
So, in the end, screwed up polls may hinder the DNC more than help.
I'm quite sure most Trump supporters have the game figured out and will make sure they get out and vote.
I also believe PDT will move to shut down charges of "voter fraud" by letting the DNC know he's open to investigating voter fraud, which is probably a Pandora's Box the DNC would rather not open.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at October 28, 2020 01:55 PM (WEBkv)
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266 Shibumi its possible your friend simply cannot imagine a change in protocol does not mean it is unsafe. A lot of experienced health professionals become reluctant to change or new info. It challenges them to accept that what they were taught or practiced has been invalidated with new research and many are resistant as they want to feel they always did the right thing.
Posted by: Jen the original at October 28, 2020 01:55 PM (0Qj1S)
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I've been polled twice so far - it was completely automated and I didn't actually speak to anybody. I answered the questions truthfully.
Posted by: I Have Questions at October 28, 2020 01:55 PM (+v+zN)
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osted by: nurse ratched at October 28, 2020 01:52 PM (U2p+3)
I'm really not freaked. Posts don't communicate things very well. It's too early for alcohol and I don't spoke marijuana or want any. I just think things will drag on, but I do think Trump will fight on if he thinks there's fraud.
I'm really not freaked. Posts don't communicate things very well. It's too early for alcohol and I don't spoke marijuana or want any. I just think things will drag on, but I do think Trump will fight on if he thinks there's fraud.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 28, 2020 01:55 PM (WkPC9)
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330 Jeepers,
Do I really have to /s on an obviously sarcastic comment?
Y'all are waaaaaay too freaked. Have a cocktail. Smoke a joint.
Calm the fuck down.
Trump wants to win. And he has no intention of it being even close.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 28, 2020 01:52 PM (U2p+3)
Nope, you shouldn't have to nurse, if a critic knew anything about you. And yes, Trump WANTS to win, unlike the previous Pubbie Slugs, and he will win, and you are right that he wants a popular vote win for a clear mandate.
Do I really have to /s on an obviously sarcastic comment?
Y'all are waaaaaay too freaked. Have a cocktail. Smoke a joint.
Calm the fuck down.
Trump wants to win. And he has no intention of it being even close.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 28, 2020 01:52 PM (U2p+3)
Nope, you shouldn't have to nurse, if a critic knew anything about you. And yes, Trump WANTS to win, unlike the previous Pubbie Slugs, and he will win, and you are right that he wants a popular vote win for a clear mandate.
Posted by: tubal at October 28, 2020 01:55 PM (bCLt0)
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Biden 48, Trump 43, Undecided 8
They're supposed to be the gold standard for WI but they got 2016 wrong didn't they.
*******
Now add in 9% & how much of the 8% undecided
They're supposed to be the gold standard for WI but they got 2016 wrong didn't they.
*******
Now add in 9% & how much of the 8% undecided
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 28, 2020 01:55 PM (asQlL)
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I think Never Trumpers are still mostly identifying as Republican. This is part of their shtick to be able to say they have credibility because they aren't being partisan when they smear Trump. Heck, Colin Powell still gets headlines every election when he heartily endorses the Democrat, and when is the last time he might have voted Republican? 2004...maybe?
Posted by: Matt at October 28, 2020 01:55 PM (MUp5h)
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338 Trump will be sitting at 260 EVs and holding enough of a lead in the rust belt to get over 270. The Democrats will let it go, since they know they will lose. They won't want their election tricks exposed, because if they are then they will be forced to clean up the rolls and implement election controls. This is what happened in 2018 when they pushed to hard trying to cheat for Gillam.
Florida has cleaned up the process, and they can't cheat in SE Florida like they used to.
They will want to save it for an election where they can use it to win.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 28, 2020 01:52 PM (5p7BC)
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And then Trump says, "Fuck it," and attacks the cheating anyway because he wants the world to know how much he actually won by and how big his dick really is.
Florida has cleaned up the process, and they can't cheat in SE Florida like they used to.
They will want to save it for an election where they can use it to win.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 28, 2020 01:52 PM (5p7BC)
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And then Trump says, "Fuck it," and attacks the cheating anyway because he wants the world to know how much he actually won by and how big his dick really is.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 01:55 PM (NWM+b)
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I'm kind of over it now. When I see the obvious errors feeding into the hair on fire, I just drop a fact bomb and move on.
Posted by: Dave in Fla
Well, you've kept me from jumping off a building. But what really strikes me is how much *better* Trump is at campaigning on the technical side -- it's not like Romney's ORCA. Trump's folks have tested everything and been working at this forever, and it seems like the GOP has been taking their lead from Trump or working closely with his folks. I did not realize the push was to get the low/early voters first, that is brilliant, much easier to round up the few low/early folks left on 11/3 and let the motivated get themselves to the polls. 150 million voter contacts is nuts, we've never had a Presidential campaign do that in a systematic way. ORCA this ain't.
Posted by: Dave in Fla
Well, you've kept me from jumping off a building. But what really strikes me is how much *better* Trump is at campaigning on the technical side -- it's not like Romney's ORCA. Trump's folks have tested everything and been working at this forever, and it seems like the GOP has been taking their lead from Trump or working closely with his folks. I did not realize the push was to get the low/early voters first, that is brilliant, much easier to round up the few low/early folks left on 11/3 and let the motivated get themselves to the polls. 150 million voter contacts is nuts, we've never had a Presidential campaign do that in a systematic way. ORCA this ain't.
Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at October 28, 2020 01:55 PM (GZ/yK)
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In related news, Kamala Harris is People's 'Sexiest Woman Alive.'>>>
So, they've already thrown the Mooch under the bus, eh?
So, they've already thrown the Mooch under the bus, eh?
Posted by: Old Dude at October 28, 2020 01:55 PM (LGXGf)
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Shoosh, picked up two Tim O'Brien novels for $4. Nice.
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 28, 2020 01:55 PM (Jc739)
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Think the wife and I are going to vote down here in Florida shortly. Watch for a big bounce in the Collier County numbers...
Posted by: Tofer732 at October 28, 2020 01:55 PM (n4MGB)
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Stop citing the big crowds Trump is drawing as any reason he can win.
A) Dem voters didn't show up for Hillary rallies, by and large, and she was damn close to winning all the swing states
After the weeks of counting and counting, Biden will win in a landslide as all the polls suggest.
Posted by: esstah at October 28, 2020 01:49 PM (qwTxQ)
Um.......
https://tinyurl.com/y4nml47n
A) Dem voters didn't show up for Hillary rallies, by and large, and she was damn close to winning all the swing states
After the weeks of counting and counting, Biden will win in a landslide as all the polls suggest.
Posted by: esstah at October 28, 2020 01:49 PM (qwTxQ)
Um.......
https://tinyurl.com/y4nml47n
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at October 28, 2020 01:56 PM (Zz0t1)
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two thoughts:
On the subject of perception:
The last time an incumbent lost re-election without a spoiler third party splitting the vote was Carter. The last time a President that was popular with his party (approval rating of 90% or higher) lost re-election was literally never are you crazy that doesn't make any sense of course it's never happened.
On the subject of victory:
At this point I don't just want to squeak out a win, I want a win decisive enough to secure the house and hold the Senate too.
because the 6th year of a President is always a bloodbath for the party in power. We have two years to institute genuine reforms, namely in terms of justices and voter sanctity. We need the GOP to actually work when in power for a change.
On the subject of perception:
The last time an incumbent lost re-election without a spoiler third party splitting the vote was Carter. The last time a President that was popular with his party (approval rating of 90% or higher) lost re-election was literally never are you crazy that doesn't make any sense of course it's never happened.
On the subject of victory:
At this point I don't just want to squeak out a win, I want a win decisive enough to secure the house and hold the Senate too.
because the 6th year of a President is always a bloodbath for the party in power. We have two years to institute genuine reforms, namely in terms of justices and voter sanctity. We need the GOP to actually work when in power for a change.
Posted by: Shenanigans at October 28, 2020 01:56 PM (ZR7kf)
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pants shitting fear of covid will keep them home
Who is more afraid of dying and COVID? Republicans or Democrats? My anecdotal evidence is that there are a lot of... morally vague individuals on the Left who are terrified of dying because they will get judged for their actions.
Who will that benefit in the voting booth?
Who is more afraid of dying and COVID? Republicans or Democrats? My anecdotal evidence is that there are a lot of... morally vague individuals on the Left who are terrified of dying because they will get judged for their actions.
Who will that benefit in the voting booth?
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 28, 2020 01:56 PM (ZCiJZ)
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The good thing is we all know biden winning by 17 in WI is complete and utter bullshit. I would bet my house against that.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 28, 2020 01:56 PM (r+sAi)
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"I don't see myself reloading 300 Win Mag anytime so I didn't pick them up."
OMG, grab all the brass you can! If you don't load it, you can sell it to people who do, or worst case, you can sell it for scrap. Jeez, I grab even 22LR brass if they'll let me. Some ranges won't even let me keep my OWN expended brass. So I don't shoot anything exotic there.
OMG, grab all the brass you can! If you don't load it, you can sell it to people who do, or worst case, you can sell it for scrap. Jeez, I grab even 22LR brass if they'll let me. Some ranges won't even let me keep my OWN expended brass. So I don't shoot anything exotic there.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:56 PM (qpX6U)
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Dems are COVID crashing dow
Such prics
Such prics
Posted by: CarpetheadLarro at October 28, 2020 01:56 PM (fu1JC)
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Plugs is going to be making a special appearance with Gaylord in Michigan, despite having previously called a "lid" on further campaign events.
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Barky is probably p*ssed that he can't just eat his waffle and has to go out and try to pull that shriveled carcass over the line.
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Barky is probably p*ssed that he can't just eat his waffle and has to go out and try to pull that shriveled carcass over the line.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 28, 2020 01:57 PM (O+I8R)
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353 "On his subject material, he's very good."
He's a genius on the absurdity of corporate cubicle life. On his professed expertise about "persuasion techniques," I think he is completely full of shit.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:53 PM (qpX6U)
Most of his cartoon ideas come from fans, very little is his own work.
I do notice his toons are unmasked as of last week.
He's a genius on the absurdity of corporate cubicle life. On his professed expertise about "persuasion techniques," I think he is completely full of shit.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:53 PM (qpX6U)
Most of his cartoon ideas come from fans, very little is his own work.
I do notice his toons are unmasked as of last week.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at October 28, 2020 01:57 PM (ifmtJ)
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BIDEN HAS NO GROUND GAME AT ALL.
Their ground game is covid scare tactics, and scam by mail. Plus some legal shenanigans.
Their ground game is covid scare tactics, and scam by mail. Plus some legal shenanigans.
Posted by: runner at October 28, 2020 01:57 PM (dTqaU)
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Another as Rush and probably lots of others said if the pollsters say it's China Biden and he loses they call learn to write code because the poll scam is done.
Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2020 01:57 PM (OjZpE)
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This factor alone is enough to render any and all polls useless.
Posted by: zombie at October 28, 2020 01:53 PM (HEEq1)
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Never mind the landline problem.
Prior to the explosion of "my mobile phone is my only phone" phenomenon, this was *much* easier. You knew where the phone number was. You could target your poll calls to areas (districts, neighborhoods, ZIP codes, etc.) and get answers from a subset of the people in those areas.
Landlines are dying and for a lot of people (there is a generational split, but it is shrinking) you miss *entire* demographics who not only don't have a landline but have *never* had a landline (I am in that group). Locality is shot to hell, and as a result so is targeting.
Posted by: zombie at October 28, 2020 01:53 PM (HEEq1)
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Never mind the landline problem.
Prior to the explosion of "my mobile phone is my only phone" phenomenon, this was *much* easier. You knew where the phone number was. You could target your poll calls to areas (districts, neighborhoods, ZIP codes, etc.) and get answers from a subset of the people in those areas.
Landlines are dying and for a lot of people (there is a generational split, but it is shrinking) you miss *entire* demographics who not only don't have a landline but have *never* had a landline (I am in that group). Locality is shot to hell, and as a result so is targeting.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 28, 2020 01:57 PM (hYcqw)
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OT: trial for Alek Minassian who killed ten driving a rented van on the sidewalk (for ant-woman incel reasons) is going on trial via Zoom. Let's hope Toobin isn't an expert witness or juror.
Posted by: andycanuck at October 28, 2020 01:57 PM (an7Mv)
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On his professed expertise about "persuasion techniques," I think he is completely full of shit.
I think he has some good insights into it but I wouldn't bank on what he says. He's a talented amateur in it, let's say.
I think he has some good insights into it but I wouldn't bank on what he says. He's a talented amateur in it, let's say.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:57 PM (KZzsI)
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Plugs is going to be making a special appearance with Gaylord in
Michigan, despite having previously called a "lid" on further campaign
events.
Yeah, that sounds like someone who's confident of victory, doesn't it?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 28, 2020 01:47 PM (VikfB)
Yup, they'll wear that motherfucker out. Biden will be pants down and throwing his own shit at his supporters from the stage at this rate. He'll rattle apart like an engine low on oil and well past it's red line. We'll get to see that miserable piece of grifting commie shit self destruct, and it...will..be...glorious.
Plugs is going to be making a special appearance with Gaylord in
Michigan, despite having previously called a "lid" on further campaign
events.
Yeah, that sounds like someone who's confident of victory, doesn't it?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 28, 2020 01:47 PM (VikfB)
Yup, they'll wear that motherfucker out. Biden will be pants down and throwing his own shit at his supporters from the stage at this rate. He'll rattle apart like an engine low on oil and well past it's red line. We'll get to see that miserable piece of grifting commie shit self destruct, and it...will..be...glorious.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 28, 2020 01:57 PM (9Om/r)
390
The DNC's hysteria strategy for The Vid has backfired. The Vid is now just another partisan issue. But it's the backbone of Biden's campaign. That and insulting trump. so, if you're a DNC karen, you really really care about masks just like you really really care about kids in cages. and if you're a maga you really think masks are dumb just like you're against illegals.
the middle is sick of this shit already. and biden's plan to shut us down forever cannot be a good reason to vote biden.
the middle is sick of this shit already. and biden's plan to shut us down forever cannot be a good reason to vote biden.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 01:57 PM (3XvN1)
391
Able to grab three boxes of Winchester 9mm Silver Tip JHP at $14.99 to add to my carry ammo stock."
Ten rounds per box? Good deal these days.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:50 PM (qpX6U)
20 rds box.
Ten rounds per box? Good deal these days.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:50 PM (qpX6U)
20 rds box.
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at October 28, 2020 01:57 PM (2DOZq)
392
And did y'all see the latest rona talking points? Antibodies fade quickly, so we'll never get to heard immunity. Anybody here well versed in viruses and antibodies? Other literature says that T cells kick in to protect the body for years after recovering. Any morons able to shed light on this?
Posted by: InCali at October 28, 2020 01:39 PM (9AFWN)
The pertinent phrase is "for the duration of the crisis". Once extreme measures are permitted as a response to some real or imagined crisis, the crisis is never allowed to end.
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And now they are pushing the "long-haul COVID." You know, it never goes away...it's chronic and you're gonna suffer forever.
Not only is it as deadly as cancer, it's chronic like HIV!
Posted by: InCali at October 28, 2020 01:39 PM (9AFWN)
The pertinent phrase is "for the duration of the crisis". Once extreme measures are permitted as a response to some real or imagined crisis, the crisis is never allowed to end.
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And now they are pushing the "long-haul COVID." You know, it never goes away...it's chronic and you're gonna suffer forever.
Not only is it as deadly as cancer, it's chronic like HIV!
Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 28, 2020 01:57 PM (vg8iE)
393
363 He has signs and that's it. I guess all of the non-graft money is going into the ballot harvesting division of the organization.
Which honestly isn't that expensive. This is going to be the most money ever spent by a candidate in an election for Biden and he's showing the least campaign. I don't think they're really even trying to win so much as its a gigantic grift.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:55 PM (KZzsI)
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It's a grift.
They knew they were going to lose and so they just decided to ride Orange Man Bad to the bank.
The consultants, that is.
"Oh, no...you don't need a ground game. That will make you look bad with covid. Just shovel another $50 million into my company for ads. That's better."
Which honestly isn't that expensive. This is going to be the most money ever spent by a candidate in an election for Biden and he's showing the least campaign. I don't think they're really even trying to win so much as its a gigantic grift.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:55 PM (KZzsI)
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It's a grift.
They knew they were going to lose and so they just decided to ride Orange Man Bad to the bank.
The consultants, that is.
"Oh, no...you don't need a ground game. That will make you look bad with covid. Just shovel another $50 million into my company for ads. That's better."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 01:57 PM (NWM+b)
394
No kidding. I went to the range for the first time in about a year last weekend. Dood next to me was shooting a 300 Win Mag boltie. Ran through about 30 rounds of good Federal ammo and left all the brass on the ground. I don't see myself reloading 300 Win Mag anytime so I didn't pick them up.
Didn't stop the range master from jumping on them.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
Range I used to go to, you could spot reloaders in an instant.
Range had a rule, "If it's on the ground, it belongs to the range".
You'd see bolties gently open their rifles so they didn't sling brass. You'd see semi's with elaborate brass catchers.
Didn't stop the range master from jumping on them.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur
Range I used to go to, you could spot reloaders in an instant.
Range had a rule, "If it's on the ground, it belongs to the range".
You'd see bolties gently open their rifles so they didn't sling brass. You'd see semi's with elaborate brass catchers.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2020 01:57 PM (+UWHh)
395
"Scott Adams thinks the polls are a Dad Joke. Men lie to pollsters because they think it's funny."
Sometimes I think SA lies to all his followers because he thinks it's funny.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:40 PM (qpX6U)
SA has bragged about lying to everyone because he thinks it's funny.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 28, 2020 01:45 PM (Kpl3J)
Scott Adams is a functional sociopath.
Sometimes I think SA lies to all his followers because he thinks it's funny.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:40 PM (qpX6U)
SA has bragged about lying to everyone because he thinks it's funny.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 28, 2020 01:45 PM (Kpl3J)
Scott Adams is a functional sociopath.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 28, 2020 01:58 PM (2JVJo)
396
Likewise - why should we believe that leftists wont knowingly vote for Biden regardless of whether he's a known corrupt traitor?
They voted Ted Kennedy into the senate for decades.
Posted by: Defenestratus at October 28, 2020 01:53 PM (9V81o)
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UMMM Leftists wouldn't vote for Trump 1st place, Thank You, Come Again
They voted Ted Kennedy into the senate for decades.
Posted by: Defenestratus at October 28, 2020 01:53 PM (9V81o)
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UMMM Leftists wouldn't vote for Trump 1st place, Thank You, Come Again
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 28, 2020 01:58 PM (asQlL)
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369 Biden 48, Trump 43, Undecided 8
They're supposed to be the gold standard for WI but they got 2016 wrong didn't they.
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Now add in 9% & how much of the 8% undecided
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 28, 2020 01:55 PM (asQlL)
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Just checked Marquette 2016 last poll: Hillary +6
Trump is running a point better against Biden.
They're supposed to be the gold standard for WI but they got 2016 wrong didn't they.
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Now add in 9% & how much of the 8% undecided
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 28, 2020 01:55 PM (asQlL)
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Just checked Marquette 2016 last poll: Hillary +6
Trump is running a point better against Biden.
Posted by: WisRich at October 28, 2020 01:58 PM (G0vdT)
398
Some Never-Trumpers are not Republican or Independent. We are proud Socialists!
Posted by: The Rev. Colonel David French, For Sale To Any Bidder at October 28, 2020 01:58 PM (tX2OH)
399
Markets are trying to blackmail congress to pass another trillion dollar stimulus.
Posted by: runner at October 28, 2020 01:58 PM (dTqaU)
400
Precatory thinking: if there is a Great Comeuppance, the press will persist, the HermitCrabbers will be finished, but will the Dems again vote for the San Franciscan as their Minority Leader or the other San Franciscan as their 2024 nominee/candidate?
Posted by: Eve at October 28, 2020 01:58 PM (L5yo0)
401
Biden is ahead by 17 points in Wisconsin the same way I have a permanently erect fourteen-inch dick.
Posted by: Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at October 28, 2020 01:58 PM (mWQzz)
402
Frankly, there are a lot of reasons Trump will win. But don't discount the large crowds he is drawing. That was a factor in 2016. In fact, people around the first Obama campaign cited it as a factor he would win...until Trump started drawing even bigger crowds.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 28, 2020 01:58 PM (VpIIl)
403
What surprises me is Harris is in Texas 3 times today?
What are the Dems thinking.
Trump is live now.
Taking questions.
Interesting approach...Biden should try that..
What are the Dems thinking.
Trump is live now.
Taking questions.
Interesting approach...Biden should try that..
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 28, 2020 01:58 PM (v2c9/)
404
He has signs and that's it. I guess all of the non-graft money is going into the ballot harvesting division of the organization.
Posted by: Joe B at October 28, 2020 01:53 PM (J70i0)
On Saturday, I was accosted by two drive-up canvasers...
"Abdul" pulled up in front of my house (on a private road) in his Prius and said he was from Planned Parenthood. I told him that I wasn't interested in what he had to say.
Then walking our dogs later that evening, my neighbor was being accosted by a lady who was clearly political lobbying based on the fact that as she went back to her car, she asked me if I was voting. "NOT INTERESTED"...
So Biden might not have a ground game - but his surrogates do.
Posted by: Joe B at October 28, 2020 01:53 PM (J70i0)
On Saturday, I was accosted by two drive-up canvasers...
"Abdul" pulled up in front of my house (on a private road) in his Prius and said he was from Planned Parenthood. I told him that I wasn't interested in what he had to say.
Then walking our dogs later that evening, my neighbor was being accosted by a lady who was clearly political lobbying based on the fact that as she went back to her car, she asked me if I was voting. "NOT INTERESTED"...
So Biden might not have a ground game - but his surrogates do.
Posted by: Defenestratus at October 28, 2020 01:58 PM (9V81o)
405
Some ranges won't even let me keep my OWN expended brass. So I don't shoot anything exotic there.
Yeah its a money maker for the range. Not a lot, but a steady trickle of extra cash, which is always nice.
Yeah its a money maker for the range. Not a lot, but a steady trickle of extra cash, which is always nice.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:58 PM (KZzsI)
406
The covid, the lockdowns, and the riots are part of dem strategy I am convinced.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
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Update on California: Yesterday, Newsom doubled down on keeping Disneyland out of business. I think he's in a dick-measuring contest with Disney execs. After it's all over, will they kiss and make up?
The covid, the lockdowns, and the riots are part of dem strategy I am convinced.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
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Update on California: Yesterday, Newsom doubled down on keeping Disneyland out of business. I think he's in a dick-measuring contest with Disney execs. After it's all over, will they kiss and make up?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 28, 2020 01:58 PM (G51Gf)
407
The covid, the lockdowns, and the riots are part of dem strategy I am convinced.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 28, 2020 01:48 PM (r+sAi)
The lock downs happened because Trump's economy was on fire and the left had to derail it. The riots were a result of the Dems freaking out over black support for Trump and they were trying to get the old Trump is a racist horse manure going to drive down that support.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 28, 2020 01:48 PM (r+sAi)
The lock downs happened because Trump's economy was on fire and the left had to derail it. The riots were a result of the Dems freaking out over black support for Trump and they were trying to get the old Trump is a racist horse manure going to drive down that support.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 28, 2020 01:59 PM (mpeBU)
408
Biden is ahead by 17 points in Wisconsin the same way I have a permanently erect fourteen-inch dick.
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Go on...
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Go on...
Posted by: Shep! at October 28, 2020 01:59 PM (vg8iE)
409
>>Dood next to me was shooting a 300 Win Mag boltie. Ran through about 30 rounds of good Federal ammo and left all the brass on the ground.
30 rounds!?
How long was he there?
30 rounds!?
How long was he there?
Posted by: garrett at October 28, 2020 01:59 PM (EM4Pb)
410
Ace links to "The Hill." The comments over there are a sewer of ignorance, failed attempts at humor, leftist conspiracy theories, and juvenile name-calling. Shocking to see what "real" America is like."
I don't think Hill readers are "real America." I think they reflect a certain percentage of Americans, but most people aren't commenting on political websites - either here or on leftist ones.
Just like most Americans are not on Twitter.
I don't think Hill readers are "real America." I think they reflect a certain percentage of Americans, but most people aren't commenting on political websites - either here or on leftist ones.
Just like most Americans are not on Twitter.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at October 28, 2020 01:59 PM (HabA/)
411
Shibumi its possible your friend simply cannot imagine a change in
protocol does not mean it is unsafe. A lot of experienced health
professionals become reluctant to change or new info. It challenges them
to accept that what they were taught or practiced has been invalidated
with new research and many are resistant as they want to feel they
always did the right thing.
I agree completely. But... I am not willing to take that chance with an untested vaccine. Maybe others are. I'm not. I don't know if all of the upcoming vaccines are mRNA vaccines, but mRNA vaccines have not been tested long term, and I don't want something inside me, messing with my RNA without knowing what to expect in 3, 5, 10 or 20 years down the road.
protocol does not mean it is unsafe. A lot of experienced health
professionals become reluctant to change or new info. It challenges them
to accept that what they were taught or practiced has been invalidated
with new research and many are resistant as they want to feel they
always did the right thing.
I agree completely. But... I am not willing to take that chance with an untested vaccine. Maybe others are. I'm not. I don't know if all of the upcoming vaccines are mRNA vaccines, but mRNA vaccines have not been tested long term, and I don't want something inside me, messing with my RNA without knowing what to expect in 3, 5, 10 or 20 years down the road.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 28, 2020 01:59 PM (ZCiJZ)
412
But if Democrats plan massive ballot fraud in WI, PA, and MI, wouldn't it make sense they publish their "alibis" in the form of fake polls which predict a landslide for Biden?
But if Democrats plan massive ballot fraud in WI, PA, and MI, wouldn't it make sense they publish their "alibis" in the form of fake polls which predict a landslide for Biden?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at October 28, 2020 01:59 PM (vXLpE)
413
Scott Adams thinks the polls are a Dad Joke. Men lie to pollsters because they think it's funny."
Sometimes I think SA lies to all his followers because he thinks it's funny.
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Is true.
I answer the phone with a Donald Trump voice.
When they ask me a question I say:
You're not getting a question. Your're organization is terrible!
And it keep it up until they can't handle it anymore and give up.
Sometimes I think SA lies to all his followers because he thinks it's funny.
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Is true.
I answer the phone with a Donald Trump voice.
When they ask me a question I say:
You're not getting a question. Your're organization is terrible!
And it keep it up until they can't handle it anymore and give up.
Posted by: simplemind at October 28, 2020 01:59 PM (OBoia)
414
Reuters: France poised to issue stay-at-home order.
Great line: "The new arrangement will be of finite duration but it was not clear exactly how long it would last, according to the sources."
Great line: "The new arrangement will be of finite duration but it was not clear exactly how long it would last, according to the sources."
Posted by: Let me ask my transfinite sources at October 28, 2020 01:59 PM (BBWrU)
415
17 point lead in Wisconsin? What the hell is this liars poker about the size of your dick?
Posted by: Marcus T at October 28, 2020 01:59 PM (VpIIl)
416
The last time an incumbent lost re-election without a spoiler third party splitting the vote was Carter. The last time a President that was popular with his party (approval rating of 90% or higher) lost re-election was literally never are you crazy that doesn't make any sense of course it's never happened.
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Looking at the GaryJohnson numbers...and the Dr. Jill and Egg Mcmuffin...
do you think they go trump or biden? It doesn't matter because trump already won without them but this time, the libertarians should come home and vote GOP.
and you look at states like minnesota, hillary only won by 45K while those three clowns got more than that margin.
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Looking at the GaryJohnson numbers...and the Dr. Jill and Egg Mcmuffin...
do you think they go trump or biden? It doesn't matter because trump already won without them but this time, the libertarians should come home and vote GOP.
and you look at states like minnesota, hillary only won by 45K while those three clowns got more than that margin.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 02:00 PM (3XvN1)
417
No questions. Just remarks.
All stations cut away...
All stations cut away...
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 28, 2020 02:00 PM (v2c9/)
418
Some Never-Trumpers are not Republican or Independent. We are proud Socialists!
Posted by: The Rev. Colonel David French, For Sale To Any Bidder
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With all due respect, some of us are just focused on Meile dishwashers.
Posted by: The Rev. Colonel David French, For Sale To Any Bidder
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With all due respect, some of us are just focused on Meile dishwashers.
Posted by: Jonathan V. Last, Sharon's Procurer at October 28, 2020 02:00 PM (tX2OH)
419
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In 2016, people would crawl through glass to vote against Hillary.
In 2020, I believe Trump supporter will crawl through glass to support Trump.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 28, 2020 01:30 PM
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If I knew for a fact Trump was going to win all 50 states handily AND double Biden's national vote count, I would crawl across glass just to add my personal one-hundred-fifty-millionth to Trumps victory and democrats sorrow.
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In 2016, people would crawl through glass to vote against Hillary.
In 2020, I believe Trump supporter will crawl through glass to support Trump.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 28, 2020 01:30 PM
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If I knew for a fact Trump was going to win all 50 states handily AND double Biden's national vote count, I would crawl across glass just to add my personal one-hundred-fifty-millionth to Trumps victory and democrats sorrow.
Posted by: irright at October 28, 2020 02:00 PM (SchQD)
420
the middle is sick of this shit already. and biden's plan to shut us down forever cannot be a good reason to vote biden.
This last couple weeks, Biden has been doing the opposite of campaigning. Declaring he wants to shut down fossil fuels, raise taxes, and all the rest. He's just turned into Walter Mondale with a bigger megaphone.
This last couple weeks, Biden has been doing the opposite of campaigning. Declaring he wants to shut down fossil fuels, raise taxes, and all the rest. He's just turned into Walter Mondale with a bigger megaphone.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 02:00 PM (KZzsI)
421
> May contain defectors from the other side.
I think there are more than a few Dems who are going to be secretly filling in the oval for Trump. Not a huge number, but not a tiny number, either.
They will never, ever admit this to the crazed fanatics on their team, but they're going to do it.
An elderly relative of mine, who always votes D because his daddy and grand-daddy did, has grown curiously silent about the election on Facebook of late.
The thing is, he votes D, but he hates high taxes, hates gun control, does not like abortion, and is not overly fond of illegal aliens.
I think there are more than a few Dems who are going to be secretly filling in the oval for Trump. Not a huge number, but not a tiny number, either.
They will never, ever admit this to the crazed fanatics on their team, but they're going to do it.
An elderly relative of mine, who always votes D because his daddy and grand-daddy did, has grown curiously silent about the election on Facebook of late.
The thing is, he votes D, but he hates high taxes, hates gun control, does not like abortion, and is not overly fond of illegal aliens.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 28, 2020 02:00 PM (VikfB)
422
416 Looking at the GaryJohnson numbers...and the Dr. Jill and Egg Mcmuffin...
do you think they go trump or biden? It doesn't matter because trump already won without them but this time, the libertarians should come home and vote GOP.
and you look at states like minnesota, hillary only won by 45K while those three clowns got more than that margin.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 02:00 PM (3XvN1)
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Democrats complained about Jill Stein stealing votes from Hillary in Michigan, not Gary Johnson even though Johnson got a whole lot more votes than Stein.
Democrats know where their wayward voters went, and it wasn't to Johnson.
do you think they go trump or biden? It doesn't matter because trump already won without them but this time, the libertarians should come home and vote GOP.
and you look at states like minnesota, hillary only won by 45K while those three clowns got more than that margin.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 02:00 PM (3XvN1)
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Democrats complained about Jill Stein stealing votes from Hillary in Michigan, not Gary Johnson even though Johnson got a whole lot more votes than Stein.
Democrats know where their wayward voters went, and it wasn't to Johnson.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 02:00 PM (NWM+b)
423
Has anyone anywhere seen a Biden bumpersticker?
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 28, 2020 02:01 PM (iediH)
424
Biden is +18 and NoNameSkins are in the hunt to win the NFC East. One of these statements is true.
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 28, 2020 02:01 PM (Jc739)
425
Speaking of saving brass. Many cartridges are derived from the same case. I gave my daughter a 7mm-08 for X-mas a couple of years ago. I bought one box of ammo. I didn't have any additional brass for 7mm, but I had hundreds of rounds of .243, which is the same basic case. So I annealed the case necks, and made up a set of 3 progressive neck expander dies that fit in my reloading press. I expanded the necks in 3 stages and measured the cases. Same dims as the 7mm-08 factory cases so I loaded them up. She has killed 2 bucks so far with those expanded .
243 cased reloads. I always save brass.
243 cased reloads. I always save brass.
Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at October 28, 2020 02:01 PM (o2MD2)
426
"Ten rounds per box? Good deal these days.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:50 PM (qpX6U)
20 rds box."
I was joking, thinking it was really 50/box. Congrats on finding it at any price.
How does it shoot? Depends on what you run it thru. One thing for sure: it's factory ammo, so it won't chronograph as consistently as handloads do. But that doesn't matter for self-defense ammo. All that matters is that it go bang each and every time in your particular firearm.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 01:50 PM (qpX6U)
20 rds box."
I was joking, thinking it was really 50/box. Congrats on finding it at any price.
How does it shoot? Depends on what you run it thru. One thing for sure: it's factory ammo, so it won't chronograph as consistently as handloads do. But that doesn't matter for self-defense ammo. All that matters is that it go bang each and every time in your particular firearm.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 02:01 PM (qpX6U)
427
Just checked Marquette 2016 last poll: Hillary +6
Trump is running a point better against Biden.
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cool, thanks, and there you go.
Trump is running a point better against Biden.
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cool, thanks, and there you go.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 02:01 PM (3XvN1)
428
AND...
The media has been actively terrifying its own base of COVID to the point that they thing it's a death sentence.
Something like 5% of Democrats are ready to return to normal life.
And the polls are telling them that Biden has this in the bag.
Chances that Democrats who didn't get their absentee ballots may chose to simply stay home increase with every added factor there.
They're fucked, and they're only now realizing it.
Eric Holder, yesterday, tweeted out that people need to vote in person.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 01:26 PM (NWM+b)
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TJM, I think you have hit on a HUGE point here. In this crazy year, The Democrats/Progda have used Covid as a political tool to undermine Trump in any way they can.
What they forgot is those that follow the Lefties believe the crap Progda broadcasts. I know some very liberal, but not New Leftists, that are terrified of leaving their home. Even today. Covid fear is now biting them in the butt.
Judging by the absence of masks at the MoMe, a collection of conservatives, tells me the right doesn't have this problem. They will vote however they have to.
AND...
The media has been actively terrifying its own base of COVID to the point that they thing it's a death sentence.
Something like 5% of Democrats are ready to return to normal life.
And the polls are telling them that Biden has this in the bag.
Chances that Democrats who didn't get their absentee ballots may chose to simply stay home increase with every added factor there.
They're fucked, and they're only now realizing it.
Eric Holder, yesterday, tweeted out that people need to vote in person.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 01:26 PM (NWM+b)
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TJM, I think you have hit on a HUGE point here. In this crazy year, The Democrats/Progda have used Covid as a political tool to undermine Trump in any way they can.
What they forgot is those that follow the Lefties believe the crap Progda broadcasts. I know some very liberal, but not New Leftists, that are terrified of leaving their home. Even today. Covid fear is now biting them in the butt.
Judging by the absence of masks at the MoMe, a collection of conservatives, tells me the right doesn't have this problem. They will vote however they have to.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 28, 2020 02:01 PM (sy5kK)
429
"403 What surprises me is Harris is in Texas 3 times today?
What are the Dems thinking."
downballot wishcasting, they're hoping this will somehow pull MJ Hegar forward
the same way this powdered rhino horn I ordered from China is going to increase my Male Sexual Potency 400%
What are the Dems thinking."
downballot wishcasting, they're hoping this will somehow pull MJ Hegar forward
the same way this powdered rhino horn I ordered from China is going to increase my Male Sexual Potency 400%
Posted by: Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at October 28, 2020 02:01 PM (mWQzz)
430
related news, Kamala Harris is People's 'Sexiest Woman Alive.'>>>
HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 28, 2020 02:01 PM (lgiXo)
431
>>>I don't think they're really even trying to win so much as its a gigantic grift.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:55 PM (KZzsI)
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He has some well crafted video out.
There's a Jay Leno promo with Biden and his Corvette.
Biden appears not only cogent but capable.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:55 PM (KZzsI)
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He has some well crafted video out.
There's a Jay Leno promo with Biden and his Corvette.
Biden appears not only cogent but capable.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 28, 2020 02:01 PM (/wRdn)
432
Has anyone anywhere seen a Biden bumpersticker?
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Unfortunately, I see way too many of them.
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Unfortunately, I see way too many of them.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 28, 2020 02:01 PM (vg8iE)
433
Breitbart has video of BLM in Philly attacking Jews while chanting synagogue of Satan. MSM says nothing to see here though.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 28, 2020 02:01 PM (RMKwi)
434
Trafalgar says Trump will win with about 280 EV.
NC, FL, AZ to Trump.
PA to Trump but possibility of fraud.
MI to Trump.
Less certain about WI.
NC, FL, AZ to Trump.
PA to Trump but possibility of fraud.
MI to Trump.
Less certain about WI.
Posted by: MJ at October 28, 2020 02:01 PM (gAMkn)
435
An elderly relative of mine, who always votes D because his daddy and grand-daddy did, has grown curiously silent about the election on Facebook of late.
The thing is, he votes D, but he hates high taxes, hates gun control, does not like abortion, and is not overly fond of illegal aliens.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
What's left to vote D for?
The thing is, he votes D, but he hates high taxes, hates gun control, does not like abortion, and is not overly fond of illegal aliens.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
What's left to vote D for?
Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2020 02:01 PM (+UWHh)
436
This factor alone is enough to render any and all polls useless.
Posted by: zombie
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I want to do a post explaining polling modes. This is true for direct phone polling, but there a number of different modes that can be used to correct for it.
The problem is that many pollsters won't change their methodology.
A poll that isn't using mixed modes to implement sample quotas of demographics if going to be flawed.
This is why Trafalgar is getting good results right now. They sample thousands in individual states and don't stop until they have samples from every demographic and region.
Posted by: zombie
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I want to do a post explaining polling modes. This is true for direct phone polling, but there a number of different modes that can be used to correct for it.
The problem is that many pollsters won't change their methodology.
A poll that isn't using mixed modes to implement sample quotas of demographics if going to be flawed.
This is why Trafalgar is getting good results right now. They sample thousands in individual states and don't stop until they have samples from every demographic and region.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 28, 2020 02:01 PM (5p7BC)
437
Everyone knows the Polls are absolute bullshit, to support the post-Trump Landslide lie that Trump cheated, which will support more violence in the street and an attempt to overthrow the Republic.
It's as simple as that.
It's as simple as that.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 28, 2020 02:02 PM (BM2fS)
438
428 TJM, I think you have hit on a HUGE point here. In this crazy year, The Democrats/Progda have used Covid as a political tool to undermine Trump in any way they can.
What they forgot is those that follow the Lefties believe the crap Progda broadcasts. I know some very liberal, but not New Leftists, that are terrified of leaving their home. Even today. Covid fear is now biting them in the butt.
Judging by the absence of masks at the MoMe, a collection of conservatives, tells me the right doesn't have this problem. They will vote however they have to.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 28, 2020 02:01 PM (sy5kK)
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It really wouldn't surprise me if Democratic election day vote is down significantly.
What they forgot is those that follow the Lefties believe the crap Progda broadcasts. I know some very liberal, but not New Leftists, that are terrified of leaving their home. Even today. Covid fear is now biting them in the butt.
Judging by the absence of masks at the MoMe, a collection of conservatives, tells me the right doesn't have this problem. They will vote however they have to.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 28, 2020 02:01 PM (sy5kK)
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It really wouldn't surprise me if Democratic election day vote is down significantly.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 02:02 PM (NWM+b)
439
Yeah, Dave in Florida you better be right. Otherwise I am coming to get you. I mean, how many Dave's can there be in Florida 
Posted by: Marcus T at October 28, 2020 02:02 PM (VpIIl)
440
@403 Stateless Infidel
"What surprises me is Harris is in Texas 3 times today? What are the Dems thinking."
They may be trying to staunch the flow of black voters to Repubs.
"What surprises me is Harris is in Texas 3 times today? What are the Dems thinking."
They may be trying to staunch the flow of black voters to Repubs.
Posted by: squid_hunt at October 28, 2020 02:02 PM (B0mGw)
441
17 point lead
Okay pollster. Why?
Why would that have occurred - use facts logic and you may even speculate a bit. I'll listen as long as it isn't magical thinking and wish fulfillment.
Demoralization.
Pure and simple.
Wisconsin's biggest spread in the last 5 elections was 13.9%.
0.2% D
0.4% D
13.9% D
6.9 % D
0.7% R
Trump might lose it, but 17% is absurd. I'm guessing its very close and all the gaslighting stops have been pulled.
Okay pollster. Why?
Why would that have occurred - use facts logic and you may even speculate a bit. I'll listen as long as it isn't magical thinking and wish fulfillment.
Demoralization.
Pure and simple.
Wisconsin's biggest spread in the last 5 elections was 13.9%.
0.2% D
0.4% D
13.9% D
6.9 % D
0.7% R
Trump might lose it, but 17% is absurd. I'm guessing its very close and all the gaslighting stops have been pulled.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 28, 2020 02:02 PM (YA914)
442
433
Breitbart has video of BLM in Philly attacking Jews while chanting synagogue of Satan. MSM says nothing to see here though.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 28, 2020 02:01 PM (RMKwi)
And yet Trump is the racist bigot. Go figure.
Breitbart has video of BLM in Philly attacking Jews while chanting synagogue of Satan. MSM says nothing to see here though.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 28, 2020 02:01 PM (RMKwi)
And yet Trump is the racist bigot. Go figure.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 28, 2020 02:02 PM (N39Ws)
443
We got about much chance of controlling this virus as we did with the "war on drugs"
It's all about the young people and their reckless behavior
and their lying to their parents and others about their behaviors
If they did a study on older people and their contact with younger people, it would tell them what they need to know
It's all about the young people and their reckless behavior
and their lying to their parents and others about their behaviors
If they did a study on older people and their contact with younger people, it would tell them what they need to know
Posted by: REDACTED at October 28, 2020 02:02 PM (R3uW8)
444
No Biden bumper stickers. Did just see one that said ICKY TRUMP, and I have no idea if that is an actual liberal or a parody of one.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 28, 2020 02:02 PM (RMKwi)
445
Everyone knows the Polls are absolute bullshit, to support the post-Trump Landslide lie that Trump cheated, which will support more violence in the street and an attempt to overthrow the Republic.
It's as simple as that.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 28, 2020 02:02 PM (BM2fS)
Winner,winner,chicken dinner.
It's as simple as that.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 28, 2020 02:02 PM (BM2fS)
Winner,winner,chicken dinner.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 28, 2020 02:02 PM (a1/fh)
446
My guess is there is a real nasty surprise left on Hunter's Laptop. Trump campaign knows that the Biden's know what this is and is using it to control Biden's near term reactions.
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 28, 2020 02:02 PM (Jc739)
447
>>414 Reuters: France poised to issue stay-at-home order. Posted by: Let me ask my transfinite sources at October 28, 2020 01:59 PM (BBWrU)
Regression. Decentralization. National identity collapse. City-states. Feudalism.
(rolls 1d20)
Regression. Decentralization. National identity collapse. City-states. Feudalism.
(rolls 1d20)
Posted by: Zod at October 28, 2020 02:02 PM (6J5Fm)
448
So Biden might not have a ground game - but his surrogates do.
Posted by: Defenestratus at October 28, 2020 01:58 PM (9V81o)
A young black man came to our door last week (on a rainy miserable day) and left a Trump flyer. I could read a great deal into that but it's one guy in one suburb. That's also true of the people you ran into.
From what I've read, the Trump GOTV started well before the Biden one did. The Dems are now playing catch-up.
Posted by: Defenestratus at October 28, 2020 01:58 PM (9V81o)
A young black man came to our door last week (on a rainy miserable day) and left a Trump flyer. I could read a great deal into that but it's one guy in one suburb. That's also true of the people you ran into.
From what I've read, the Trump GOTV started well before the Biden one did. The Dems are now playing catch-up.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at October 28, 2020 02:03 PM (HabA/)
449
France poised to issue stay-at-home order.
Europe has gone bananas. They've lost their heads completely, acting like the black death is on their streets. I cannot work it out, there seems to have been no trigger whatsoever, they all just agreed to on one day just go freaking batsh*t and overreact to the Wuhan Flu. Even the UK, especially Wales, has gone completely insane issuing lunatic commands about who and how often someone can leave a house even to go shopping or walk the dog.
Stores are open but all "non essentials" are walled off and taped off so they cannot be purchased. Essentials having been identified by the government, of course.
Europe has gone bananas. They've lost their heads completely, acting like the black death is on their streets. I cannot work it out, there seems to have been no trigger whatsoever, they all just agreed to on one day just go freaking batsh*t and overreact to the Wuhan Flu. Even the UK, especially Wales, has gone completely insane issuing lunatic commands about who and how often someone can leave a house even to go shopping or walk the dog.
Stores are open but all "non essentials" are walled off and taped off so they cannot be purchased. Essentials having been identified by the government, of course.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 02:03 PM (KZzsI)
450
Jon Ralston says Dems should be worried."
Less worried today?
He twatted this:
"Even if Biden is losing indies by 5-10, he's ahead in NV because of Dem leads in voter reg/turnout."
Less worried today?
He twatted this:
"Even if Biden is losing indies by 5-10, he's ahead in NV because of Dem leads in voter reg/turnout."
Posted by: Asshoes at October 28, 2020 02:03 PM (22mNy)
451
Has anyone anywhere seen a Biden bumpersticker?
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Unfortunately, I see way too many of them.
Posted by: bicentennialguy
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I finally saw one today.
On a Prius.
Going 70 in the far left lane.
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Unfortunately, I see way too many of them.
Posted by: bicentennialguy
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I finally saw one today.
On a Prius.
Going 70 in the far left lane.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 28, 2020 02:03 PM (5p7BC)
452
Trafalgar was saying yesterday that NC was closer than expected. It wasn't very reassuring.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 28, 2020 02:03 PM (VpIIl)
453
Which honestly isn't that expensive. This is going
to be the most money ever spent by a candidate in an election for Biden
and he's showing the least campaign. I don't think they're really even
trying to win so much as its a gigantic grift.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:55 PM (KZzsI)
It is hard to deny it looks like that. Biden is barely traveling. When he is traveling, the venues are small or essentially public. The number of ads is about normal and you have to figure ad rates are cheap to flat right now. I don't know how much GOTV effort there is, but that is usually spent by the party. Some campaign people have to be raking in the cash.
to be the most money ever spent by a candidate in an election for Biden
and he's showing the least campaign. I don't think they're really even
trying to win so much as its a gigantic grift.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:55 PM (KZzsI)
It is hard to deny it looks like that. Biden is barely traveling. When he is traveling, the venues are small or essentially public. The number of ads is about normal and you have to figure ad rates are cheap to flat right now. I don't know how much GOTV effort there is, but that is usually spent by the party. Some campaign people have to be raking in the cash.
Posted by: Joe B at October 28, 2020 02:03 PM (J70i0)
454
449 France poised to issue stay-at-home order.
Europe has gone bananas. They've lost their heads completely, acting like the black death is on their streets. I cannot work it out, there seems to have been no trigger whatsoever, they all just agreed to on one day just go freaking batsh*t and overreact to the Wuhan Flu. Even the UK, especially Wales, has gone completely insane issuing lunatic commands about who and how often someone can leave a house even to go shopping or walk the dog.
Stores are open but all "non essentials" are walled off and taped off so they cannot be purchased. Essentials having been identified by the government, of course.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 02:03 PM (KZzsI)
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Why do they hate science?
Europe has gone bananas. They've lost their heads completely, acting like the black death is on their streets. I cannot work it out, there seems to have been no trigger whatsoever, they all just agreed to on one day just go freaking batsh*t and overreact to the Wuhan Flu. Even the UK, especially Wales, has gone completely insane issuing lunatic commands about who and how often someone can leave a house even to go shopping or walk the dog.
Stores are open but all "non essentials" are walled off and taped off so they cannot be purchased. Essentials having been identified by the government, of course.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 02:03 PM (KZzsI)
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Why do they hate science?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 02:03 PM (NWM+b)
Posted by: Kara at October 28, 2020 02:04 PM (l3+k2)
456
401 Biden is ahead by 17 points in Wisconsin the same way I have a permanently erect fourteen-inch dick.
Posted by: Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger
I'm free tonight.
Posted by: Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger
I'm free tonight.
Posted by: zombie at October 28, 2020 02:04 PM (HEEq1)
457
I've been watching this great FLA early voting website.
Refreshing a couple of times a day to watch the Dem early advantage evaporate. Rep are already way past where they need to be as far as early voting vs Dems, to win it on election day
https://joeisdone.github.io/florida/
Refreshing a couple of times a day to watch the Dem early advantage evaporate. Rep are already way past where they need to be as far as early voting vs Dems, to win it on election day
https://joeisdone.github.io/florida/
Posted by: JoeNYC at October 28, 2020 02:04 PM (3RGRd)
458
Stores are open but all "non essentials" are walled off and taped off so they cannot be purchased. Essentials having been identified by the government, of course.
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But of course.
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But of course.
Posted by: Wretched Shitmer at October 28, 2020 02:04 PM (vg8iE)
459
a very bad year
Posted by: 2012 at October 28, 2020 02:04 PM (cNEwX)
460
It really wouldn't surprise me if Democratic election day vote is down significantly.
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I live in NOVA and the paucity of Biden signs is remarkably stark for a Dem Company Town.
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I live in NOVA and the paucity of Biden signs is remarkably stark for a Dem Company Town.
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 28, 2020 02:04 PM (Jc739)
461
Trafalgar says Trump will win with about 280 EV.
NC, FL, AZ to Trump.
PA to Trump but possibility of fraud.
MI to Trump.
Less certain about WI.
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What was Trump's margin of victory in WI in 2016? I would've automatically said PA was a harder 'get' than WI.
NC, FL, AZ to Trump.
PA to Trump but possibility of fraud.
MI to Trump.
Less certain about WI.
--
What was Trump's margin of victory in WI in 2016? I would've automatically said PA was a harder 'get' than WI.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 28, 2020 02:04 PM (O+I8R)
462
Just think
If polio was permanent
HIV is permanent, but you keep your schnecker out of joes bo
Ignorance is permanent
If polio was permanent
HIV is permanent, but you keep your schnecker out of joes bo
Ignorance is permanent
Posted by: CarpetheadLarro at October 28, 2020 02:04 PM (fu1JC)
463
I'm in the bluest blue area in the country and there's sporadic biden bumpterstickers, like the most hard core neighbor leftists. not the normals.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 02:04 PM (3XvN1)
464
An elderly relative of mine, who always votes D because his daddy and grand-daddy did, has grown curiously silent about the election on Facebook of late.
The thing is, he votes D, but he hates high taxes, hates gun control, does not like abortion, and is not overly fond of illegal aliens
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 28, 2020 02:00 PM (VikfB)
Tribalists like that are sad.
Why would you, in a representative government, vote year after year for someone who has nothing to offer you?
The thing is, he votes D, but he hates high taxes, hates gun control, does not like abortion, and is not overly fond of illegal aliens
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 28, 2020 02:00 PM (VikfB)
Tribalists like that are sad.
Why would you, in a representative government, vote year after year for someone who has nothing to offer you?
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at October 28, 2020 02:04 PM (psDyo)
465
No Biden bumper stickers. Did just see one that said ICKY TRUMP, and I have no idea if that is an actual liberal or a parody of one.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 28, 2020 02:02 PM (RMKwi
If you saw an #orangemanbad bumper sticker what would you think Honest question.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 28, 2020 02:02 PM (RMKwi
If you saw an #orangemanbad bumper sticker what would you think Honest question.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 28, 2020 02:04 PM (lgiXo)
466
Top of the hour FOX radio news.
COVID! EEK! RECORD CASES!
STOCK MARKET DOWN, NEW COVID WAVE IN EUROPE!
AMERICA IS LISTENING TO FOX NEWS!
I'm too lazy to get up and turn off the volume, Rush will be back in a few minutes.
And other than the talking heads and Gutfeld/Watters, Fox News is as corrupt as the rest of them.
Top of the hour FOX radio news.
COVID! EEK! RECORD CASES!
STOCK MARKET DOWN, NEW COVID WAVE IN EUROPE!
AMERICA IS LISTENING TO FOX NEWS!
I'm too lazy to get up and turn off the volume, Rush will be back in a few minutes.
And other than the talking heads and Gutfeld/Watters, Fox News is as corrupt as the rest of them.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 28, 2020 02:04 PM (sy5kK)
467
For "On the Scene" reporting from "The Boy in the Bubble", Scott Adams is a GoTo.
For real Left Coast News, I pull up VDH.
For real Left Coast News, I pull up VDH.
Posted by: klaftern at October 28, 2020 02:05 PM (RuIsu)
468
Last Marquette Poll before election for WI.
Biden 48, Trump 43, Undecided 8
They're supposed to be the gold standard for WI but they got 2016 wrong didn't they.
Posted by: WisRich at October 28, 2020 01:52 PM (G0vdT)
This is where it's relevant to note that the final state polls were very accurate for *Hillary's* totals last time.
So if she was ahead 47-42, she would lose the state 49-47.
You do the math.
Biden 48, Trump 43, Undecided 8
They're supposed to be the gold standard for WI but they got 2016 wrong didn't they.
Posted by: WisRich at October 28, 2020 01:52 PM (G0vdT)
This is where it's relevant to note that the final state polls were very accurate for *Hillary's* totals last time.
So if she was ahead 47-42, she would lose the state 49-47.
You do the math.
Posted by: ... at October 28, 2020 02:05 PM (kcYij)
469
-
--
Some ranges won't even let me keep my OWN expended brass. So I don't shoot anything exotic there.
Yeah its a money maker for the range. Not a lot, but a steady trickle of extra cash, which is always nice.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:58 PM
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Some of them allow a brass catcher with semi's, but "if it hits the ground, it's ours".
--
Some ranges won't even let me keep my OWN expended brass. So I don't shoot anything exotic there.
Yeah its a money maker for the range. Not a lot, but a steady trickle of extra cash, which is always nice.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 01:58 PM
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Some of them allow a brass catcher with semi's, but "if it hits the ground, it's ours".
Posted by: irright at October 28, 2020 02:05 PM (SchQD)
470
>>A young black man came to our door last week (on a rainy miserable day) and left a Trump flyer. I could read a great deal into that but it's one guy in one suburb. Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at October 28, 2020 02:03 PM (HabA/)
A Mrs. Kravitz in your neighborhood called the proper authorities. He was acquired and administratively handled.
A Mrs. Kravitz in your neighborhood called the proper authorities. He was acquired and administratively handled.
Posted by: Zod at October 28, 2020 02:05 PM (6J5Fm)
471
> They may be trying to staunch the flow of black voters to Repubs.
Right. At this stage they're probably trying to salvage a few down-ticket races.
Right. At this stage they're probably trying to salvage a few down-ticket races.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 28, 2020 02:05 PM (VikfB)
472
431 Biden was a guest on Jay Lenos Garage 4years ago. That clip is not current.
Posted by: Jen the original at October 28, 2020 02:05 PM (0Qj1S)
473
I finally saw one today.
On a Prius.
Going 70 in the far left lane.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 28, 2020 02:03 PM (5p7BC)
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I saw one and it was there with one of the Jesus fish symbols. As I told my wife, one cannot support Biden/Harris and be a Christian.
On a Prius.
Going 70 in the far left lane.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 28, 2020 02:03 PM (5p7BC)
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I saw one and it was there with one of the Jesus fish symbols. As I told my wife, one cannot support Biden/Harris and be a Christian.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at October 28, 2020 02:05 PM (WEBkv)
474
461 Trafalgar says Trump will win with about 280 EV.
NC, FL, AZ to Trump.
PA to Trump but possibility of fraud.
MI to Trump.
Less certain about WI.
--
What was Trump's margin of victory in WI in 2016? I would've automatically said PA was a harder 'get' than WI.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 28, 2020 02:04 PM (O+I8R)
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.7%
I agree with Trafalgar: WI is going to be tough for Trump.
NC, FL, AZ to Trump.
PA to Trump but possibility of fraud.
MI to Trump.
Less certain about WI.
--
What was Trump's margin of victory in WI in 2016? I would've automatically said PA was a harder 'get' than WI.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 28, 2020 02:04 PM (O+I8R)
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.7%
I agree with Trafalgar: WI is going to be tough for Trump.
Posted by: WisRich at October 28, 2020 02:06 PM (G0vdT)
475
Trump gets 330 but they steal Pennsylvania for two weeks so he ends up with 310.
Posted by: ... at October 28, 2020 02:06 PM (kcYij)
476
>>Some of them allow a brass catcher with semi's, but "if it hits the ground, it's ours".
I have never encountered this at a range and if I did, I would laugh and pick up my brass.
I have never encountered this at a range and if I did, I would laugh and pick up my brass.
Posted by: garrett at October 28, 2020 02:06 PM (EM4Pb)
477
I live in NOVA and the paucity of Biden signs is remarkably stark for a Dem Company Town.
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 28, 2020 02:04 PM (Jc739)
I live in a college town, in a student-dominated neighborhood.
More Trump signs than Biden. Vastly less than there were Beto signs.
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 28, 2020 02:04 PM (Jc739)
I live in a college town, in a student-dominated neighborhood.
More Trump signs than Biden. Vastly less than there were Beto signs.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at October 28, 2020 02:06 PM (psDyo)
478
Biden doesn't need a ground game.
The message that Trump is responsible for the utter mismanagement of covid, the sole cause for necessary lockdowns and all the job loss, because he thought it was a "scam" has permeated into public mindset and is now ensconced there as FACT.
The majority of the country had decided that Trump was to blame and had to go back in March. No further campaigning needed. Period. End of sentence.
With mail-in ballots, not only would massive fraud be easier, but all these terrified voters furious at Trump's bungling of the virus would be assured of voting if they could do so from the comfort of the floor under their beds.
Also--one factor no one has mentioned is college kids, an extremely unreliable voting bloc for Dems in the past, are probably 100% more likely to vote in this election since they are locked in their parents' homes or dorm rooms, unable to go out and party...all because of Trump's failure to "believe in science" and the virus.
The message that Trump is responsible for the utter mismanagement of covid, the sole cause for necessary lockdowns and all the job loss, because he thought it was a "scam" has permeated into public mindset and is now ensconced there as FACT.
The majority of the country had decided that Trump was to blame and had to go back in March. No further campaigning needed. Period. End of sentence.
With mail-in ballots, not only would massive fraud be easier, but all these terrified voters furious at Trump's bungling of the virus would be assured of voting if they could do so from the comfort of the floor under their beds.
Also--one factor no one has mentioned is college kids, an extremely unreliable voting bloc for Dems in the past, are probably 100% more likely to vote in this election since they are locked in their parents' homes or dorm rooms, unable to go out and party...all because of Trump's failure to "believe in science" and the virus.
Posted by: esstah at October 28, 2020 02:06 PM (qwTxQ)
479
Stores are open but all "non essentials" are walled off and taped off so they cannot be purchased. Essentials having been identified by the government, of course.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Fuck the government. Here. There. Everywhere.
If I need something, it's essential.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Fuck the government. Here. There. Everywhere.
If I need something, it's essential.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2020 02:06 PM (+UWHh)
480
454
449 France poised to issue stay-at-home order.
Europe has gone bananas. They've lost their heads completely, acting
like the black death is on their streets. I cannot work it out, there
seems to have been no trigger whatsoever, they all just agreed to on one
day just go freaking batsh*t and overreact to the Wuhan Flu. Even the
UK, especially Wales, has gone completely insane issuing lunatic
commands about who and how often someone can leave a house even to go
shopping or walk the dog.
Stores are open but all "non essentials" are walled off and taped
off so they cannot be purchased. Essentials having been identified by
the government, of course.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 02:03 PM (KZzsI)
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Why do they hate science?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 02:03 PM (NWM+b)
Don't revolts, uprisings and the like typically follow times of pestilence?
449 France poised to issue stay-at-home order.
Europe has gone bananas. They've lost their heads completely, acting
like the black death is on their streets. I cannot work it out, there
seems to have been no trigger whatsoever, they all just agreed to on one
day just go freaking batsh*t and overreact to the Wuhan Flu. Even the
UK, especially Wales, has gone completely insane issuing lunatic
commands about who and how often someone can leave a house even to go
shopping or walk the dog.
Stores are open but all "non essentials" are walled off and taped
off so they cannot be purchased. Essentials having been identified by
the government, of course.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 02:03 PM (KZzsI)
=========
Why do they hate science?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 02:03 PM (NWM+b)
Don't revolts, uprisings and the like typically follow times of pestilence?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 28, 2020 02:06 PM (N39Ws)
481
Plugs is going to be making a special appearance with Gaylord in Michigan, despite having previously called a "lid" on further campaign events.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 28, 2020 01:47 PM (VikfB)
I read that as if they were going to Gaylord, Michigan.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 28, 2020 01:47 PM (VikfB)
I read that as if they were going to Gaylord, Michigan.
Posted by: clutch at October 28, 2020 02:06 PM (9UmRs)
Posted by: Asshoes at October 28, 2020 02:06 PM (22mNy)
483
Wtf is going in in wisconsin?!
Posted by: runner at October 28, 2020 02:06 PM (dTqaU)
484
As New Polls Show Biden Cruising to Victory, Two Polling Experts Say the Polls Are Wrong
Huh, 'polling expert'. That's something you want on your business card.
Huh, 'polling expert'. That's something you want on your business card.
Posted by: t-bird at October 28, 2020 02:06 PM (DMQdU)
485
Never heard where the range keeps the brass. Even here in New Yorkistan they don't do that.
Of course, they don't want you chasing brass over the line. But that's a safety issue.
Of course, they don't want you chasing brass over the line. But that's a safety issue.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 28, 2020 02:06 PM (VpIIl)
486
This is why Trafalgar is getting good results right now. They sample thousands in individual states and don't stop until they have samples from every demographic and region.
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Trafalgar only polls states. The national polls aren't relevant.
National Review has a great hour long podcast with the guy from Trafalgar. He explains basically everything about their process and why other pollsters are so incorrect.
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Trafalgar only polls states. The national polls aren't relevant.
National Review has a great hour long podcast with the guy from Trafalgar. He explains basically everything about their process and why other pollsters are so incorrect.
Posted by: MJ at October 28, 2020 02:07 PM (gAMkn)
487
I had an Epiphany!! Just as I eschew pollsters, I should eschew poll threads, since I believe they are fundamentally bullshit. So, see y'all on a non poll thread.
Posted by: tubal at October 28, 2020 02:07 PM (bCLt0)
488
Anybody bother to looks at details?
Posted by: runner at October 28, 2020 02:07 PM (dTqaU)
489
I analyzed this myself, several days ago, and came to the exact some conclusion as "Dave in Fla".
Trump has a solid 260 Electoral Votes, and 5 different toss-up pathways to get the other 10.
I'd go so far as to say that BIDEN has always been the underdog, but I don't think DiF agrees on that part.
All media - even Fox - fed us a fantasy in 2016, and it's the same playbook in 2020, except maybe worse.
In fact, I might even go so far as to declare PA & MI for Trump at this point - a Trump win.
Trump has a solid 260 Electoral Votes, and 5 different toss-up pathways to get the other 10.
I'd go so far as to say that BIDEN has always been the underdog, but I don't think DiF agrees on that part.
All media - even Fox - fed us a fantasy in 2016, and it's the same playbook in 2020, except maybe worse.
In fact, I might even go so far as to declare PA & MI for Trump at this point - a Trump win.
Posted by: Optimizer at October 28, 2020 02:07 PM (hOOi9)
490
483 Wtf is going in in wisconsin?!
Posted by: runner at October 28, 2020 02:06 PM (dTqaU)
FUD
That's what!
Posted by: runner at October 28, 2020 02:06 PM (dTqaU)
FUD
That's what!
Posted by: browndog at October 28, 2020 02:07 PM (BgMrQ)
491
I want to curate a smallish bag of rocks to carry around, to use on folks who should be ashamed to show their faces in public after the election. (Should be ashamed now, really, but I don't want to take liberties.)
Question for the Horde: smooth rocks or rough/pointy ones?
Question for the Horde: smooth rocks or rough/pointy ones?
Posted by: Hierominous Botch at October 28, 2020 02:07 PM (YqED9)
492
Polls and Polls! What is Polls??
Polls is Controller, yes?
Posted by: Kara
As a female, I wish I didn't understand this.
Polls is Controller, yes?
Posted by: Kara
As a female, I wish I didn't understand this.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 28, 2020 02:07 PM (ZCiJZ)
493
>>I've been watching this great FLA early voting website.
Refreshing a couple of times a day to watch the Dem early advantage evaporate. Rep are already way past where they need to be as far as early voting vs Dems, to win it on election day
This is what I'm talking about. There are nearly 7 million votes in in Florida alone and they are a much better predictor than polls. Not perfect but better.
So why care what the media polls from the same people who have been lying to you and suppressing and good news for conservatives have to say?
The early voting in Florida as of right now is pointing to a big win for Trump. It can change but that's where we are now. No way in hell Trump wins Florida easily and loses any swing state by 17.
Refreshing a couple of times a day to watch the Dem early advantage evaporate. Rep are already way past where they need to be as far as early voting vs Dems, to win it on election day
This is what I'm talking about. There are nearly 7 million votes in in Florida alone and they are a much better predictor than polls. Not perfect but better.
So why care what the media polls from the same people who have been lying to you and suppressing and good news for conservatives have to say?
The early voting in Florida as of right now is pointing to a big win for Trump. It can change but that's where we are now. No way in hell Trump wins Florida easily and loses any swing state by 17.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2020 02:07 PM (ZLI7S)
494
I can state unequivocally, "The Polls Are Wrong". NOW who's the polling expert?!
Posted by: t-bird at October 28, 2020 02:07 PM (DMQdU)
495
> Why would you, in a representative government, vote year after year for someone who has nothing to offer you?
Well, as I said, because his Daddy did, and his Grand-Daddy, and...
Don't overlook the power of tradtion.
But I would bet money that he is at least considering voting for Trump this time.
As I said, he's gone curiously radio silent on politics of late, while still continuing to post the usual stuff about grand-kids and so on.
Well, as I said, because his Daddy did, and his Grand-Daddy, and...
Don't overlook the power of tradtion.
But I would bet money that he is at least considering voting for Trump this time.
As I said, he's gone curiously radio silent on politics of late, while still continuing to post the usual stuff about grand-kids and so on.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 28, 2020 02:08 PM (VikfB)
496
Heh...
Biden doesn't need a ground game.
Who's going to make sure that soft support actually shows up to the polls? An ad on a TV?
Biden doesn't need a ground game.
Who's going to make sure that soft support actually shows up to the polls? An ad on a TV?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 02:08 PM (NWM+b)
497
This "polling expert" is the head of a county GOP operation. Not sure he's quite an unbiased source of info.
Posted by: Asshoes at October 28, 2020 02:08 PM (22mNy)
498
Europe has gone bananas.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 02:03 PM (KZzsI)
I'll give you one reason. Orange Man Bad. All they hear from the US press is how horrible Kung Flu is in the US. They probably believe we have dead bodies in the streets. So, in typical Euro-weenie fashion, they are doing the opposite. Never mind that their restrictions were far tougher than ours and they are still having spikes. Germany is somewhat an exception because we imposed a federal constitution on them. They have states, like here, that have easier restrictions than other areas.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 02:03 PM (KZzsI)
I'll give you one reason. Orange Man Bad. All they hear from the US press is how horrible Kung Flu is in the US. They probably believe we have dead bodies in the streets. So, in typical Euro-weenie fashion, they are doing the opposite. Never mind that their restrictions were far tougher than ours and they are still having spikes. Germany is somewhat an exception because we imposed a federal constitution on them. They have states, like here, that have easier restrictions than other areas.
Posted by: Joe B at October 28, 2020 02:08 PM (J70i0)
499
Actually I've been called by three separate polling companies without it having a name in the ID section on my Android phone.
Posted by: Moron Robbie's 503 cubic inches say thank you for your windmills and solar panels at October 28, 2020 01:33 PM (SDcEG)
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Then they're farming stuff out to 3rd parties. Which tells you all you need to know about the quality of these polls.
Posted by: Moron Robbie's 503 cubic inches say thank you for your windmills and solar panels at October 28, 2020 01:33 PM (SDcEG)
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Then they're farming stuff out to 3rd parties. Which tells you all you need to know about the quality of these polls.
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at October 28, 2020 02:08 PM (O6DoG)
500
Question for the Horde: smooth rocks or rough/pointy ones?
Smooth. Pointy might hurt you hands as you get them out of the small leather bag.
Smooth. Pointy might hurt you hands as you get them out of the small leather bag.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 28, 2020 02:08 PM (ZCiJZ)
501
Well worn sock off.
Posted by: WOPR - Free Kyle Rittenhouse at October 28, 2020 02:08 PM (J70i0)
502
Hidin' Biden voted today, between naps. No word on who he voted for.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Tinfoil Hat Wearer at October 28, 2020 02:08 PM (tX2OH)
503
it could be true, but as a bluecheckmark tried to point out, trump's been negative approval and so forth his entire presidency...but also during the election he won. So, be careful.
again, the voter fraud could be huge and unstoppable. The DOJ has let the fraud ballots intermingle and now they can't be challenged. who knows.
again, the voter fraud could be huge and unstoppable. The DOJ has let the fraud ballots intermingle and now they can't be challenged. who knows.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 02:08 PM (3XvN1)
504
213 >>so am I buying .40 ammo to ship or expecting 9mm ammo shipment? Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at October 28, 2020 01:37 PM (ifmtJ)
You will be purchasing ammunition for Zod. Because I am cruel but fair, you may welsh on the wager. I would prefer that we increase the stakes.
Posted by: Zod at October 28, 2020 01:39 PM (6J5Fm)
Nah. I still think Trump will take it.
I'm no welsher. Frankly, if Trump loses, Zod will need more .40. If you want to go to 200 rounds instead of 100, we can raise the bet.
You will be purchasing ammunition for Zod. Because I am cruel but fair, you may welsh on the wager. I would prefer that we increase the stakes.
Posted by: Zod at October 28, 2020 01:39 PM (6J5Fm)
Nah. I still think Trump will take it.
I'm no welsher. Frankly, if Trump loses, Zod will need more .40. If you want to go to 200 rounds instead of 100, we can raise the bet.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at October 28, 2020 02:09 PM (ifmtJ)
505
Anyone who is using registered voters I stead of likely voters now does not know their job. If you want good polling data got to Big Data polling. I am a paid member there. The race is much closer than the pollsters say. Nate Silver is a fraud and can't find his rear with both hands, a flashlight and a seeing eye fog. He is grifter.
FL Trump up by 2 to 3.
NC Trump by 2 to 3
PA released: dead even. Turnout us the key. It has been trending to Trump ever since the debate. Biden the anti-fracker. Trump was behind but has caught up.
WI poll results still be updated and released tomorrow... probably dead heat
MI poll results to be released tonight... probably a dead heat.
These polls are polling several thousand people. Check it out if you want to.
Daily tracking will continue until Monday.
MN to be released Friday
FL Trump up by 2 to 3.
NC Trump by 2 to 3
PA released: dead even. Turnout us the key. It has been trending to Trump ever since the debate. Biden the anti-fracker. Trump was behind but has caught up.
WI poll results still be updated and released tomorrow... probably dead heat
MI poll results to be released tonight... probably a dead heat.
These polls are polling several thousand people. Check it out if you want to.
Daily tracking will continue until Monday.
MN to be released Friday
Posted by: Shovel 6 at October 28, 2020 02:09 PM (lYMQu)
506
On the subject of perception:
The last time an incumbent lost re-election without a spoiler third party splitting the vote was Carter. The last time a President that was popular with his party (approval rating of 90% or higher) lost re-election was literally never are you crazy that doesn't make any sense of course it's never happened.
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addendum:
The circumstances that see an election president lose after a single term are, to a one, remarkable.
George HW lost because of the strongest third party candidate in nearly a century ran. Ross Perot won almost a third of the votes, 99% of which would have ordinarily gone to the Republican.
Jimmy Carter lost because the country was at it's second-lowest point in history, in terms of morale, standing in the world, economy, foreign, you name it. Literally every possible metric was upside down. The only time things were worse...
Herbert Hoover lost because of the Great Depression.
William Howard Taft lost because of the strongest third party candidate in the history of the 2 party system. Teddy Roosevelt won almost a third of the votes, 99% of which would have ordinarily gone to the Republican.
Grover Cleveland lost because of Electoral College/House of Representative shenanigans.
After that you have to go back to the string of Democrat and Whig losers we had in the run-up to the Civil War, before you end with John Adams, who lost because he was exposed as a tyrant once he got power and Americans used to not cotton to such like.
Point being: Trump is not any of the above. There's no conditions as remarkable as the above, not even the Asian Clap, nor is there a spoiler candidate, nor any other extraordinary condition that would cause the historically cautious and slow-to-change American electorate to decide to change horses mid-race.
end of rant
The last time an incumbent lost re-election without a spoiler third party splitting the vote was Carter. The last time a President that was popular with his party (approval rating of 90% or higher) lost re-election was literally never are you crazy that doesn't make any sense of course it's never happened.
---
addendum:
The circumstances that see an election president lose after a single term are, to a one, remarkable.
George HW lost because of the strongest third party candidate in nearly a century ran. Ross Perot won almost a third of the votes, 99% of which would have ordinarily gone to the Republican.
Jimmy Carter lost because the country was at it's second-lowest point in history, in terms of morale, standing in the world, economy, foreign, you name it. Literally every possible metric was upside down. The only time things were worse...
Herbert Hoover lost because of the Great Depression.
William Howard Taft lost because of the strongest third party candidate in the history of the 2 party system. Teddy Roosevelt won almost a third of the votes, 99% of which would have ordinarily gone to the Republican.
Grover Cleveland lost because of Electoral College/House of Representative shenanigans.
After that you have to go back to the string of Democrat and Whig losers we had in the run-up to the Civil War, before you end with John Adams, who lost because he was exposed as a tyrant once he got power and Americans used to not cotton to such like.
Point being: Trump is not any of the above. There's no conditions as remarkable as the above, not even the Asian Clap, nor is there a spoiler candidate, nor any other extraordinary condition that would cause the historically cautious and slow-to-change American electorate to decide to change horses mid-race.
end of rant
Posted by: Shenanigans at October 28, 2020 02:09 PM (ZR7kf)
507
OMG - a supercut of Biden incoherence at a recent event:
https://gab.com/rixstep/posts/105113394093229105
https://gab.com/rixstep/posts/105113394093229105
Posted by: Lizzy at October 28, 2020 02:09 PM (bDqIh)
508
Why is the 220k number still thrown around when the CDC said 90+% of that number is bullshit?
Posted by: garrett at October 28, 2020 02:09 PM (EM4Pb)
509
Another round of riots in Philadelphia for the latest idiot who through his own actions got himself killed
Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2020 02:09 PM (OjZpE)
510
I wonder if Europe will blow up of they do this lockdown stuff again. There have already been many and frequent (though unreported) mass demonstrations in opposition to the 'Rona lockdowns. Add in to it the fact that lockdowns don't work (there is no correlation between lockdown speed or duration and tested infection rate) and it looks to me like they might be playing with fire.
Or at least, I kinda hope they are.
Or at least, I kinda hope they are.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 28, 2020 02:09 PM (hYcqw)
511
>>>What they forgot is those that follow the Lefties believe the crap Progda broadcasts. I know some very liberal, but not New Leftists, that are terrified of leaving their home. Even today. Covid fear is now biting them in the butt.
...
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 28, 2020 02:01 PM (sy5kK)
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Voted yesterday. The facility was well organized:
escorted to the voting area, ID'd, given finger covers and an alcohol wipe to wipe the machine. Exit from an alternate door. - no passing in the hall
Oh, and at the appropriate distance there was a black man wearing a red t-shirt saying,
'Go Red, Vote Republican'.
...
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 28, 2020 02:01 PM (sy5kK)
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Voted yesterday. The facility was well organized:
escorted to the voting area, ID'd, given finger covers and an alcohol wipe to wipe the machine. Exit from an alternate door. - no passing in the hall
Oh, and at the appropriate distance there was a black man wearing a red t-shirt saying,
'Go Red, Vote Republican'.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 28, 2020 02:09 PM (/wRdn)
512
I managed to cruise over and vote early today here in Indiana. It only took 2 1/2 hours to get it done, but mainly because I got over there about 70 minutes BEFORE the poll was supposed to open for the day. As of right now the wait in line is about 4+ hours.
Posted by: MrObvious at October 28, 2020 02:09 PM (k+h+d)
513
Europe has gone bananas. They've lost their heads completely, acting
like the black death is on their streets. I cannot work it out, there
seems to have been no trigger whatsoever, they all just agreed to on one
day just go freaking batsh*t and overreact to the Wuhan Flu. Even the
UK, especially Wales, has gone completely insane issuing lunatic
commands about who and how often someone can leave a house even to go
shopping or walk the dog.
==
There are a great many modern governments that need a serious reckoning.
Europe has gone bananas. They've lost their heads completely, acting
like the black death is on their streets. I cannot work it out, there
seems to have been no trigger whatsoever, they all just agreed to on one
day just go freaking batsh*t and overreact to the Wuhan Flu. Even the
UK, especially Wales, has gone completely insane issuing lunatic
commands about who and how often someone can leave a house even to go
shopping or walk the dog.
==
There are a great many modern governments that need a serious reckoning.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 28, 2020 02:09 PM (O+I8R)
514
it hits the ground, it's ours
Seem to remember that at a trap and skeet range in the 70s for shotty brass wether paper or plastic hulls?
Seem to remember that at a trap and skeet range in the 70s for shotty brass wether paper or plastic hulls?
Posted by: Banned at October 28, 2020 02:09 PM (cAoYG)
515
Romney didn't think he needed ground game.
Posted by: runner at October 28, 2020 02:09 PM (dTqaU)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 28, 2020 02:09 PM (sfhL4)
517
Ignore the polls. If the Dems were not scared they would not be doping up that flaccid lifeless degenerate to put him on display to yell like an angry old man.
Posted by: BluesFish at October 28, 2020 02:09 PM (WQZ1O)
518
> Posted by: esstah at October 28, 2020 02:06 PM (qwTxQ)
Once again, your concern has been noted.
Once again, your concern has been noted.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 28, 2020 02:10 PM (VikfB)
519
Biden won't travel again, until El Commandente Zero rousts him out of hte basement on Saturday. They are giving a joint rally in Michigan. That's all Biden can manage.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Tinfoil Hat Wearer at October 28, 2020 02:10 PM (tX2OH)
520
515 Romney didn't think he needed ground game.
Posted by: runner at October 28, 2020 02:09 PM (dTqaU)
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He had ORCA.
Posted by: runner at October 28, 2020 02:09 PM (dTqaU)
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He had ORCA.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 02:10 PM (NWM+b)
521
Let's see, all the polling outfits work for all of the MSM outfits that gave us 4 years of utter lies about Trump.
Anyone who believes a word from those sources is nuts.
Anyone who believes a word from those sources is nuts.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 28, 2020 02:10 PM (BM2fS)
522
In 2018 polls underestimated GOP support in the midwest and FL. And it underestimated Dem support in NV and AZ.
FWIW
FWIW
Posted by: Asshoes at October 28, 2020 02:10 PM (22mNy)
523
Anyone have any 40mm brass? I'm running low on my Bofers reloading supplies.
Posted by: Archer at October 28, 2020 02:10 PM (gmo/4)
524
The majority of the country had decided that Trump was to blame and had to go back in March
Oh, you polled the majority of the country? Nice trick.
Yet another Debbie Downer Troll. I voted already-so did everybody in my house, All Trump voters.
Oh, you polled the majority of the country? Nice trick.
Yet another Debbie Downer Troll. I voted already-so did everybody in my house, All Trump voters.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 28, 2020 02:10 PM (WkPC9)
525
Judging by the absence of masks at the MoMe, a
collection of conservatives, tells me the right doesn't have this
problem. They will vote however they have to.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 28, 2020 02:01 PM (sy5kK)
What I found interesting was the road trip to the MoMe. A lot of gas stops across the country had mask required signs on the door, but very few people were wearing them. And the ones who were wearing them ripped them off like they were a plague blanket the second they got out of the store. Even some employees weren't wearing them.
collection of conservatives, tells me the right doesn't have this
problem. They will vote however they have to.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 28, 2020 02:01 PM (sy5kK)
What I found interesting was the road trip to the MoMe. A lot of gas stops across the country had mask required signs on the door, but very few people were wearing them. And the ones who were wearing them ripped them off like they were a plague blanket the second they got out of the store. Even some employees weren't wearing them.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 28, 2020 02:10 PM (9Om/r)
526
15 Romney didn't think he needed ground game.
Posted by: runner at October 28, 2020 02:09 PM (dTqaU)
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He had ORCA.
-------------> his organization was far from what Turdblossom assembled for W. It felt weak when I tried to volunteer.
Posted by: runner at October 28, 2020 02:09 PM (dTqaU)
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He had ORCA.
-------------> his organization was far from what Turdblossom assembled for W. It felt weak when I tried to volunteer.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 02:11 PM (3XvN1)
527
European virility died 75 years ago. Dead. The only allowed reactions to any threats, real or imagined, is to hide or surrender, immediately.
Posted by: klaftern at October 28, 2020 02:11 PM (RuIsu)
528
476
>>Some of them allow a brass catcher with semi's, but "if it hits the ground, it's ours".
I have never encountered this at a range and if I did, I would laugh and pick up my brass.
Posted by: garrett at October 28, 2020 02:06 PM (EM4Pb)
Range I go to, brass is like money left on the ground. Everyone's picking it up.
>>Some of them allow a brass catcher with semi's, but "if it hits the ground, it's ours".
I have never encountered this at a range and if I did, I would laugh and pick up my brass.
Posted by: garrett at October 28, 2020 02:06 PM (EM4Pb)
Range I go to, brass is like money left on the ground. Everyone's picking it up.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 28, 2020 02:11 PM (N39Ws)
529
>>The message that Trump is responsible for the utter mismanagement of covid, the sole cause for necessary lockdowns and all the job loss, because he thought it was a "scam" has permeated into public mindset and is now ensconced there as FACT.
Only for extremely stupid people. Are you and extremely stupid person?
Only for extremely stupid people. Are you and extremely stupid person?
Posted by: JackStraw at October 28, 2020 02:11 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: runner at October 28, 2020 02:11 PM (dTqaU)
531
Ignore the polls. If the Dems were not scared they would not be doping up that flaccid lifeless degenerate to put him on display to yell like an angry old man.
Posted by: BluesFish at October 28, 2020 02:09 PM (WQZ1O)
Does Joe do anything other than angry. I know he does creepy but anything else?
Posted by: BluesFish at October 28, 2020 02:09 PM (WQZ1O)
Does Joe do anything other than angry. I know he does creepy but anything else?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 28, 2020 02:11 PM (lgiXo)
532
Not only is it as deadly as cancer, it's chronic like HIV!
Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 28, 2020 01:57 PM (vg8iE)
And even HIV really only killed the "early adopters", like my late gay friend. With the anti-retroviral cocktails they have now, HIV+ people live long and prosper.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 28, 2020 01:57 PM (vg8iE)
And even HIV really only killed the "early adopters", like my late gay friend. With the anti-retroviral cocktails they have now, HIV+ people live long and prosper.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 28, 2020 02:11 PM (9Xp6e)
533
Yeah, Dave in Florida you better be right. Otherwise I am coming to get you. I mean, how many Dave's can there be in Florida
Posted by: Marcus T
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I despise going out on a limb, especially after 2012.
But damn it, I've got the actual numbers from across the country open in multiple tabs in my browser.
There is just no way Trump loses this, unless his voters decide on Nov 2nd to not go to the polls, after months of telling everyone who will listen to them that they are going to vote for Trump on Nov 3rd and send a giant fuck you to the media.
Arizona is over.
Florida is over.
North Carolina is over.
Iowa is over.
Ohio is over.
Texas is over.
Georgia is over.
ME-2 is over.
Trump leads in MI.
Trump leads or is tied in PA.
Trump leads of is tied in WI.
Trump is tied in NH.
Trump is tied in NV.
Trump is close of tied in MN.
This election is a certain as you can possibly make it 6 days away from the election.
Posted by: Marcus T
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I despise going out on a limb, especially after 2012.
But damn it, I've got the actual numbers from across the country open in multiple tabs in my browser.
There is just no way Trump loses this, unless his voters decide on Nov 2nd to not go to the polls, after months of telling everyone who will listen to them that they are going to vote for Trump on Nov 3rd and send a giant fuck you to the media.
Arizona is over.
Florida is over.
North Carolina is over.
Iowa is over.
Ohio is over.
Texas is over.
Georgia is over.
ME-2 is over.
Trump leads in MI.
Trump leads or is tied in PA.
Trump leads of is tied in WI.
Trump is tied in NH.
Trump is tied in NV.
Trump is close of tied in MN.
This election is a certain as you can possibly make it 6 days away from the election.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 28, 2020 02:11 PM (5p7BC)
534
And did y'all see the latest rona talking points? Antibodies fade quickly, so we'll never get to heard immunity. Anybody here well versed in viruses and antibodies? Other literature says that T cells kick in to protect the body for years after recovering. Any morons able to shed light on this?
Posted by: InCali at October 28, 2020 01:39 PM (9AFWN)
T cells are the primary way apparently that the body fights Covid and it has memory so that future infections of mutated coronavirus will be weakened from the get go. Antibodies are developed as a secondary strategy with other more severe measures of the body kicking in for severe cases.
Furthermore, it seems to be obliterating the annual flu season with dramatic drops in the number of people getting the flu this year so far despite school going back (younger people ARE much more at risk from the flu and spreading it).
Fire Fauci and a lot of this crap of fear mongering goes away.
Posted by: InCali at October 28, 2020 01:39 PM (9AFWN)
T cells are the primary way apparently that the body fights Covid and it has memory so that future infections of mutated coronavirus will be weakened from the get go. Antibodies are developed as a secondary strategy with other more severe measures of the body kicking in for severe cases.
Furthermore, it seems to be obliterating the annual flu season with dramatic drops in the number of people getting the flu this year so far despite school going back (younger people ARE much more at risk from the flu and spreading it).
Fire Fauci and a lot of this crap of fear mongering goes away.
Posted by: whig at October 28, 2020 02:12 PM (pO7gM)
535
I think I'll follow Tubal's lead. Catch you on the next non poll thread.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 28, 2020 02:12 PM (WkPC9)
536
> Hidin' Biden voted today, between naps. No word on who he voted for.
I believe he wrote in Harold Stassen.
I believe he wrote in Harold Stassen.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 28, 2020 02:12 PM (VikfB)
537
The majority of the country had decided that Trump was to blame and had to go back in March
Oh, you polled the majority of the country? Nice trick.
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The Vid is just another red v blue issue now.
Oh, you polled the majority of the country? Nice trick.
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The Vid is just another red v blue issue now.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 02:12 PM (3XvN1)
538
505 Anyone who is using registered voters I stead of likely voters now does not know their job.
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Disagree. LV is where polling becomes less science and more feels/hunches. Every pollster defines what LIKELY voter means. It's about as non-scientific as it gets.
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Disagree. LV is where polling becomes less science and more feels/hunches. Every pollster defines what LIKELY voter means. It's about as non-scientific as it gets.
Posted by: Asshoes at October 28, 2020 02:12 PM (22mNy)
539
A significant factor in Trump's 2016 victory was Hatred of Hillary among Dems.
This time around Biden is the generic Dem vs the demonized Trump.
This time around Biden is the generic Dem vs the demonized Trump.
Posted by: davidt at October 28, 2020 02:12 PM (l3+k2)
540
Actually I've been called by three separate polling companies without it having a name in the ID section on my Android phone.>>>
I suspected pollsters when the caller ID had similar messages on my land line. I never answer a call when the caller's ID is not disclosed or hidden.
I suspected pollsters when the caller ID had similar messages on my land line. I never answer a call when the caller's ID is not disclosed or hidden.
Posted by: Old Dude at October 28, 2020 02:12 PM (LGXGf)
541
I mean...it's a range.
We're not gonna get into a shoot-out over it, are we? That would be against the Safety Rules.
So. I'll be taking my Brass.
Not anyone else's, mind you. Just mine.
We're not gonna get into a shoot-out over it, are we? That would be against the Safety Rules.
So. I'll be taking my Brass.
Not anyone else's, mind you. Just mine.
Posted by: garrett at October 28, 2020 02:12 PM (EM4Pb)
542
What I found interesting was the road trip to the MoMe. A lot of gas stops across the country had mask required signs on the door, but very few people were wearing them. And the ones who were wearing them ripped them off like they were a plague blanket the second they got out of the store. Even some employees weren't wearing them.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 28, 2020 02:10 PM (9Om/r)
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I noticed the same when I crossed into Iowa from Illinois at a gas station/Subway in Davenport. Nobody was wearing masks except the Subway employees.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 28, 2020 02:10 PM (9Om/r)
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I noticed the same when I crossed into Iowa from Illinois at a gas station/Subway in Davenport. Nobody was wearing masks except the Subway employees.
Posted by: Augustine at October 28, 2020 02:12 PM (Alp4m)
543
Why do they hate science?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 02:03 PM (NWM+b)
Don't revolts, uprisings and the like typically follow times of pestilence?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 28, 2020 02:06 PM (N39Ws)
Not always pestilence, but almost always after a steep rise in basic food prices.
American Revolution was the outlier, as we were on so many other standard indicators.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 02:03 PM (NWM+b)
Don't revolts, uprisings and the like typically follow times of pestilence?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 28, 2020 02:06 PM (N39Ws)
Not always pestilence, but almost always after a steep rise in basic food prices.
American Revolution was the outlier, as we were on so many other standard indicators.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 28, 2020 02:13 PM (NgKpN)
544
This election is a certain as you can possibly make it 6 days away from the election.
Posted by: Dave in Fla
I know we have given you grief, but thank you for everything that you do.
Posted by: Dave in Fla
I know we have given you grief, but thank you for everything that you do.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2020 02:13 PM (+UWHh)
545
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 28, 2020 02:11 PM (5p7BC)
Thanks for the positive news.. I'm trying to be optimistic...
Thanks for the positive news.. I'm trying to be optimistic...
Posted by: It's me donna at October 28, 2020 02:13 PM (Zmnko)
546
Nobody here blames Trump for the virus. They blame Cuomo. Especially those who had their parents killed by him.
People here are tired of the lockdowns. The only people cheering on COVID restrictions are Democrats, and even some of them are done with it.
Trump, demonstrably, has followed all the advice he was given- and then some. He used private industry like no other administration. He rebuilt the national PPE stockpile that Biden emptied and then spent the money on other things.
Nobody believes a guy who can't put his own socks on will manage this better than Trump. In fact, the fear now is Biden will shut us down again.
By the way, Biden's "plan" for the virus looks strangely like Trump's. That's because he cribbed it like everything else he does. He's a demented clown who couldn't manage a lemonade stand without dunking his dick in the ice bucket.
People here are tired of the lockdowns. The only people cheering on COVID restrictions are Democrats, and even some of them are done with it.
Trump, demonstrably, has followed all the advice he was given- and then some. He used private industry like no other administration. He rebuilt the national PPE stockpile that Biden emptied and then spent the money on other things.
Nobody believes a guy who can't put his own socks on will manage this better than Trump. In fact, the fear now is Biden will shut us down again.
By the way, Biden's "plan" for the virus looks strangely like Trump's. That's because he cribbed it like everything else he does. He's a demented clown who couldn't manage a lemonade stand without dunking his dick in the ice bucket.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 28, 2020 02:13 PM (VpIIl)
547
Unfortunately, I see way too many of them.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 28, 2020 02:01 PM (vg8iE)
I am from an area that went overwhelmingly for Hillary. I have yet to see a Biden sticker. A single one. In fact, I was wondering if they made any. I think I saw more Jill Stein lawn signs in 2016 than I've seen Biden signs this year. Neither year have I seen Trump signs in the city (seriously, you might get your house burned) but I've seen a crap load of Culp (R) signs which are almost always paired with Trump signs in the surrounding rural areas. I laugh with my friends about pollsters and what to tell them to screw with them. If web we are called. I think this is a real thing with Trump supporters like me. My sense is that we are going to see a flood of Liberal tears come the morning of Nov 4.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 28, 2020 02:01 PM (vg8iE)
I am from an area that went overwhelmingly for Hillary. I have yet to see a Biden sticker. A single one. In fact, I was wondering if they made any. I think I saw more Jill Stein lawn signs in 2016 than I've seen Biden signs this year. Neither year have I seen Trump signs in the city (seriously, you might get your house burned) but I've seen a crap load of Culp (R) signs which are almost always paired with Trump signs in the surrounding rural areas. I laugh with my friends about pollsters and what to tell them to screw with them. If web we are called. I think this is a real thing with Trump supporters like me. My sense is that we are going to see a flood of Liberal tears come the morning of Nov 4.
Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at October 28, 2020 02:13 PM (iediH)
548
So for those who want to know when the Covid madness ends and we return to normal?
November 20th.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 28, 2020 01:33 PM (5p7BC)
Fvckin Fauci was claiming yesterday the vaccines won't stop infection, merely prevent symptoms.
Wut?
November 20th.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 28, 2020 01:33 PM (5p7BC)
Fvckin Fauci was claiming yesterday the vaccines won't stop infection, merely prevent symptoms.
Wut?
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Si Vis Pacem, Pac Bellum) at October 28, 2020 02:13 PM (N3El/)
549
"Some of them allow a brass catcher with semi's, but "if it hits the ground, it's ours"."
Not mine. I asked. Brass catchers are a safety hazard sez them. So I shoot only 22LR, 223, 9mm, stuff that I have tons of. I'm not throwing away 30 carbine, 7.5 swiss, 300H&H. Nuh-uh.
When I was in the local rifle club, I'd scarf every casing I could find. Got bitched out over that too. F them.
Not mine. I asked. Brass catchers are a safety hazard sez them. So I shoot only 22LR, 223, 9mm, stuff that I have tons of. I'm not throwing away 30 carbine, 7.5 swiss, 300H&H. Nuh-uh.
When I was in the local rifle club, I'd scarf every casing I could find. Got bitched out over that too. F them.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 02:13 PM (qpX6U)
550
Why would you, in a representative government, vote year after year for someone who has nothing to offer you?
Or even lies to you to get elected, then turns around and does the exact opposite of what they said they'd do?
Or even lies to you to get elected, then turns around and does the exact opposite of what they said they'd do?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - A vote for Biden is a vote for the ChiComs at October 28, 2020 02:13 PM (HaL55)
551
Fire Fauci and a lot of this crap of fear mongering goes away.
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Nooooo!!! Who will I think about when I masturbate if he's gone??
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Nooooo!!! Who will I think about when I masturbate if he's gone??
Posted by: Maskmonger Karen at October 28, 2020 02:13 PM (vg8iE)
552
Yes, best management consulting minds created ORCA.
Posted by: runner at October 28, 2020 02:11 PM (dTqaU)
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LOL. Yep.
Posted by: runner at October 28, 2020 02:11 PM (dTqaU)
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LOL. Yep.
Posted by: Asshoes at October 28, 2020 02:13 PM (22mNy)
553
Another round of riots in Philadelphia for the latest idiot who through his own actions got himself killed
Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2020 02:09 PM (OjZpE)
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According to twatter, none of that happened. Not even the killing. Think they've learned something.
Posted by: Skip at October 28, 2020 02:09 PM (OjZpE)
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According to twatter, none of that happened. Not even the killing. Think they've learned something.
Posted by: jhawk90 at October 28, 2020 02:14 PM (xWWdO)
554
This election is a certain as you can possibly make it 6 days away from the election.
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That's the spirit.
Really what is the point of thinking otherwise. If Trump loses, at least spend the next 6 days in bliss enjoying life. If he wins, be able to say you never doubted.
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That's the spirit.
Really what is the point of thinking otherwise. If Trump loses, at least spend the next 6 days in bliss enjoying life. If he wins, be able to say you never doubted.
Posted by: That Guy (formerly SH) at October 28, 2020 02:14 PM (sX1BW)
555
Range I used to go to, you could spot reloaders in an instant.
Range had a rule, "If it's on the ground, it belongs to the range".
You'd see bolties gently open their rifles so they didn't sling brass. You'd see semi's with elaborate brass catchers.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2020 01:57 PM (+UWHh)
Seems to me, the main reason for such a rule is to keep brass scavengers from making nuisances of themselves on the firing line.
Range had a rule, "If it's on the ground, it belongs to the range".
You'd see bolties gently open their rifles so they didn't sling brass. You'd see semi's with elaborate brass catchers.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2020 01:57 PM (+UWHh)
Seems to me, the main reason for such a rule is to keep brass scavengers from making nuisances of themselves on the firing line.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 28, 2020 02:14 PM (9Xp6e)
556
> European virility died 75 years ago. Dead.
That was the final nail in the coffin, definitely, but they'd been bleeding testosterone for centuries.
WWI killed a whole generation of the best and brightest, and before that their best men had been heading off to the colonies for a very long time.
That was the final nail in the coffin, definitely, but they'd been bleeding testosterone for centuries.
WWI killed a whole generation of the best and brightest, and before that their best men had been heading off to the colonies for a very long time.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 28, 2020 02:14 PM (VikfB)
557
449 France poised to issue stay-at-home order.
Europe has gone bananas. They've lost their heads completely, acting like the black death is on their streets. I cannot work it out, there seems to have been no trigger whatsoever, they all just agreed to on one day just go freaking batsh*t and overreact to the Wuhan Flu. Even the UK, especially Wales, has gone completely insane issuing lunatic commands about who and how often someone can leave a house even to go shopping or walk the dog.
Stores are open but all "non essentials" are walled off and taped off so they cannot be purchased. Essentials having been identified by the government, of course.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
The hilarious part is trying to decipher the micro-managing rules they issue every day (and change every day) in Great Britain, applying to every obscure locality and behavior. They often go like this (not an exaggeration):
"Starting Thursday at 06:00, residents of Bigglehampton, Lower Wendworth and the Eastern Dales are not allowed to met in groups of greater than six, unless they are in a social bubble stablished prior to September 17. Attendance at Premiere League and semi-professional sporting events is prohibited, although amateur events are allowed provided no more than 50 people are in attendance. Chepstowe, Upper Wrenchester and Outer Middlesex prohibit pubs from serving after 21:30, unless they serve hot food (not including fish and chips nor chicken wings, which are classified as "pub food"), in which case they may continue serving until 23:00...."
And on and on it goes for paragraph after paragraph.
How anyone keeps it straight is beyond me.
Europe has gone bananas. They've lost their heads completely, acting like the black death is on their streets. I cannot work it out, there seems to have been no trigger whatsoever, they all just agreed to on one day just go freaking batsh*t and overreact to the Wuhan Flu. Even the UK, especially Wales, has gone completely insane issuing lunatic commands about who and how often someone can leave a house even to go shopping or walk the dog.
Stores are open but all "non essentials" are walled off and taped off so they cannot be purchased. Essentials having been identified by the government, of course.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
The hilarious part is trying to decipher the micro-managing rules they issue every day (and change every day) in Great Britain, applying to every obscure locality and behavior. They often go like this (not an exaggeration):
"Starting Thursday at 06:00, residents of Bigglehampton, Lower Wendworth and the Eastern Dales are not allowed to met in groups of greater than six, unless they are in a social bubble stablished prior to September 17. Attendance at Premiere League and semi-professional sporting events is prohibited, although amateur events are allowed provided no more than 50 people are in attendance. Chepstowe, Upper Wrenchester and Outer Middlesex prohibit pubs from serving after 21:30, unless they serve hot food (not including fish and chips nor chicken wings, which are classified as "pub food"), in which case they may continue serving until 23:00...."
And on and on it goes for paragraph after paragraph.
How anyone keeps it straight is beyond me.
Posted by: zombie at October 28, 2020 02:14 PM (HEEq1)
558
I remember reading stories about how disastrously awful and inept (or deliberately saboteurish) the organization was from people here that tried to volunteer. We already know from O'Keefe's work that at least some "GOP consultants" are actually working for Democrats.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 02:14 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Diesel Jones - Temperance advocate at October 28, 2020 02:14 PM (0CeRG)
560
"This election is a certain as you can possibly make it 6 days away from the election.
Posted by: Dave in Fla
I know we have given you grief, but thank you for everything that you do.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2020 02:13 PM (+UWHh)"
F that. Don't let Dave and TLM off the hook.
We know where you live!!
Posted by: Dave in Fla
I know we have given you grief, but thank you for everything that you do.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2020 02:13 PM (+UWHh)"
F that. Don't let Dave and TLM off the hook.
We know where you live!!
Posted by: Marcus T at October 28, 2020 02:15 PM (VpIIl)
561
In 2018 polls underestimated GOP support in the midwest and FL. And it underestimated Dem support in NV and AZ.
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So, IOW, polling is like Pin the Tail on the Donkey. You're blindfolded, spun around, and wherever your donkey tail lands is the result. Broadcast the results and pat yourself on the back.
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So, IOW, polling is like Pin the Tail on the Donkey. You're blindfolded, spun around, and wherever your donkey tail lands is the result. Broadcast the results and pat yourself on the back.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 28, 2020 02:15 PM (O+I8R)
562
The message that Trump is responsible for the utter mismanagement of covid, the sole cause for necessary lockdowns and all the job loss, because he thought it was a "scam" has permeated into public mindset and is now ensconced there as FACT.
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you see the dnc strategy of hysterical overreaction to things they imagine trump said.
1. he "knew" on Jan 23rd and waited until Jan 30 to close travel.
2. he also thought it was a "hoax"
pick one.
also, the left: "trump didn't listen to science"
Science up until March was "it's no big deal, don't worry" and "don't wear masks"
so, rethink your science. Trump assessed the threat and overruled science to be more aggressive.
Trump encountered many policy issues that stunted FDA and CDC reponse during Feb and March...causing bad tests to be made. He corrected these artifacts from the Obama/Biden H1N1 Response.
again, know things.
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you see the dnc strategy of hysterical overreaction to things they imagine trump said.
1. he "knew" on Jan 23rd and waited until Jan 30 to close travel.
2. he also thought it was a "hoax"
pick one.
also, the left: "trump didn't listen to science"
Science up until March was "it's no big deal, don't worry" and "don't wear masks"
so, rethink your science. Trump assessed the threat and overruled science to be more aggressive.
Trump encountered many policy issues that stunted FDA and CDC reponse during Feb and March...causing bad tests to be made. He corrected these artifacts from the Obama/Biden H1N1 Response.
again, know things.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 02:15 PM (3XvN1)
563
Arizona is over.
Florida is over.
North Carolina is over.
Iowa is over.
Ohio is over.
Texas is over.
Georgia is over.
ME-2 is over.
Trump leads in MI.
Trump leads or is tied in PA.
Trump leads of is tied in WI.
Trump is tied in NH.
Trump is tied in NV.
Trump is close of tied in MN.
This election is a certain as you can possibly make it 6 days away from the election.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 28, 2020 02:11 PM (5p7BC)
I told my dad last night I was certain of victory and he asked how I know and I told him Dave in FL said so.
He was like, who? Dave. In Florida.
He said okay.
Florida is over.
North Carolina is over.
Iowa is over.
Ohio is over.
Texas is over.
Georgia is over.
ME-2 is over.
Trump leads in MI.
Trump leads or is tied in PA.
Trump leads of is tied in WI.
Trump is tied in NH.
Trump is tied in NV.
Trump is close of tied in MN.
This election is a certain as you can possibly make it 6 days away from the election.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 28, 2020 02:11 PM (5p7BC)
I told my dad last night I was certain of victory and he asked how I know and I told him Dave in FL said so.
He was like, who? Dave. In Florida.
He said okay.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 28, 2020 02:15 PM (3aLWR)
564
I kind of have a thing for Marsha Blackburn. She is older than I am and a blond, but those hot librarian glasses get to me. Plus she takes no shit. Like that in a woman.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Tinfoil Hat Wearer at October 28, 2020 02:15 PM (tX2OH)
565
507 OMG - a supercut of Biden incoherence at a recent event:
https://gab.com/rixstep/posts/105113394093229105
Posted by: Lizzy at October 28, 2020 02:09 PM (bDqIh)
He's such a liar. Scranton,PA.
His father owned a car dealership in Delaware,
that's how poor he was.
https://gab.com/rixstep/posts/105113394093229105
Posted by: Lizzy at October 28, 2020 02:09 PM (bDqIh)
He's such a liar. Scranton,PA.
His father owned a car dealership in Delaware,
that's how poor he was.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 28, 2020 02:15 PM (/wRdn)
566
Just had my fourth GOP door knock this election cycle.
No dems have been here, but they sure do send in the mudslinging flyers via the mail.
No dems have been here, but they sure do send in the mudslinging flyers via the mail.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com lives again at October 28, 2020 02:15 PM (SchxB)
567
The hilarious part is trying to decipher the micro-managing rules they issue every day (and change every day) in Great Britain, applying to every obscure locality and behavior. They often go like this (not an exaggeration):
If you think she's kidding or exaggerating, she's not. It literally works like that.
The only saving grace is that almost everything in England has worked like that sine Albert the Great, so they are sort of used to it. But its nearly incomprehensible.
If you think she's kidding or exaggerating, she's not. It literally works like that.
The only saving grace is that almost everything in England has worked like that sine Albert the Great, so they are sort of used to it. But its nearly incomprehensible.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 02:15 PM (KZzsI)
568
If there's a range that won't let me collect my own brass, I like to bring my AK with steel cased ammo.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at October 28, 2020 02:16 PM (TB7HE)
569
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I mean...it's a range.
We're not gonna get into a shoot-out over it, are we? That would be against the Safety Rules.
So. I'll be taking my Brass.
Not anyone else's, mind you. Just mine.
Posted by: garrett at October 28, 2020 02:12 PM
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I doubt they'll do anything but warn you. If you persist, you won't be allowed back
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I mean...it's a range.
We're not gonna get into a shoot-out over it, are we? That would be against the Safety Rules.
So. I'll be taking my Brass.
Not anyone else's, mind you. Just mine.
Posted by: garrett at October 28, 2020 02:12 PM
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I doubt they'll do anything but warn you. If you persist, you won't be allowed back
Posted by: irright at October 28, 2020 02:16 PM (SchQD)
570
Likely voter is just the first criteria. There are a dozen more to sort through. My point you have to find out if they are likely as one key part of the poll...then you sort through many more. But using a registered voter only creates a lot more uncertainty in the poll.
Posted by: Shovel 6 at October 28, 2020 02:16 PM (lYMQu)
571
533 DaveinFla,
You also did not even mention the polling trend lines--Biden is trending downward in reliable polls (Devil Mouse's ABC polling and Faux polling are garbage). Trump is trending upward which tends to get undecideds aboard the bandwagon. That is what the outlier polls are desperately trying to prevent--to keep the RCP average talking point for the MSM that Trump will lose.
You also did not even mention the polling trend lines--Biden is trending downward in reliable polls (Devil Mouse's ABC polling and Faux polling are garbage). Trump is trending upward which tends to get undecideds aboard the bandwagon. That is what the outlier polls are desperately trying to prevent--to keep the RCP average talking point for the MSM that Trump will lose.
Posted by: whig at October 28, 2020 02:16 PM (pO7gM)
572
>>Nah. I still think Trump will take it.
I'm no welsher. Frankly, if Trump loses, Zod will need more .40. If you want to go to 200 rounds instead of 100, we can raise the bet.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at October 28, 2020 02:09 PM (ifmtJ
Well. If Trump loses, you need send Zod only the original 100 rounds. If he wins, Zod will send you 200 of 9mm, the souls of two Aztec laborers, and the key to Sinema's enclosure.
These are valuable items. I have confidence that I will not need to part with them.
I'm no welsher. Frankly, if Trump loses, Zod will need more .40. If you want to go to 200 rounds instead of 100, we can raise the bet.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at October 28, 2020 02:09 PM (ifmtJ
Well. If Trump loses, you need send Zod only the original 100 rounds. If he wins, Zod will send you 200 of 9mm, the souls of two Aztec laborers, and the key to Sinema's enclosure.
These are valuable items. I have confidence that I will not need to part with them.
Posted by: Zod at October 28, 2020 02:16 PM (6J5Fm)
573
90+% of my time at the range is spent waiting for my barrel to get cold enough to take another shot...
I have to laugh when I have guys 'sighting in' next to me and they are running through Boxes in under an hour.
I have to laugh when I have guys 'sighting in' next to me and they are running through Boxes in under an hour.
Posted by: garrett at October 28, 2020 02:16 PM (EM4Pb)
574
Furthermore, it seems to be obliterating the annual flu season with
dramatic drops in the number of people getting the flu this year so far
despite school going back (younger people ARE much more at risk from the
flu and spreading it).
People could be getting the flu, but the CDC may not be reporting it any more. Or reporting it as "COVID."
Cold= COVID. Flu= COVID. Cancer= COVID. Sinus infection=COVID. Diabetes= COVID High Blood Pressure= COVID
dramatic drops in the number of people getting the flu this year so far
despite school going back (younger people ARE much more at risk from the
flu and spreading it).
People could be getting the flu, but the CDC may not be reporting it any more. Or reporting it as "COVID."
Cold= COVID. Flu= COVID. Cancer= COVID. Sinus infection=COVID. Diabetes= COVID High Blood Pressure= COVID
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 28, 2020 02:16 PM (ZCiJZ)
575
I texted the Bobulinski news to some older liberals I regularly converse with.
None of them would even engage, except one said "I don't go to an entertainment channel (listed by the FCC as an entertainment channel) for my source of news."
I tell this to help understand how hopelessly blind they have become in the last few months, after being stuck at home and more influenced by Progda sources. All of them would have previously responded, even to slam me.
Now, mostly crickets.
I texted the Bobulinski news to some older liberals I regularly converse with.
None of them would even engage, except one said "I don't go to an entertainment channel (listed by the FCC as an entertainment channel) for my source of news."
I tell this to help understand how hopelessly blind they have become in the last few months, after being stuck at home and more influenced by Progda sources. All of them would have previously responded, even to slam me.
Now, mostly crickets.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 28, 2020 02:16 PM (sy5kK)
576
Has anyone anywhere seen a Biden bumpersticker?
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Not only have we not seen a Biden bumpersticker, you have not seen Biden the actual candidate. In retrospect, this will seem like an obvious tell.
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Not only have we not seen a Biden bumpersticker, you have not seen Biden the actual candidate. In retrospect, this will seem like an obvious tell.
Posted by: That Guy (formerly SH) at October 28, 2020 02:16 PM (sX1BW)
577
I kind of have a thing for Marsha Blackburn. She is older than I am and a blond, but those hot librarian glasses get to me. Plus she takes no shit. Like that in a woman.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Tinfoil Hat Wearer at October 28, 2020 02:15 PM (tX2OH)
Line starts behind me.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Tinfoil Hat Wearer at October 28, 2020 02:15 PM (tX2OH)
Line starts behind me.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 28, 2020 02:16 PM (a1/fh)
578
Last time Trump ran, no one had any idea of how he would be as President. He was unproven, yet he won. People have seen him as President for four years now. And even through the MSM has tried to hush up the good news, people can see that the economy improved and that he has had success in foreign policy. They have no problems seeing him as President. He should win re-election.
Posted by: notsothoreau at October 28, 2020 02:16 PM (JKNZq)
579
The message that Trump is responsible for the utter mismanagement of covid, the sole cause for necessary lockdowns and all the job loss, because he thought it was a "scam" has permeated into public mindset and is now ensconced there as FACT.
If you're going to hang out here, Allahpundit, at least do so under your own name.
If you're going to hang out here, Allahpundit, at least do so under your own name.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 28, 2020 02:17 PM (2JVJo)
580
Dave in Fla , where do these "biden 17 ahead" numbers are coming from???
Posted by: runner at October 28, 2020 02:17 PM (dTqaU)
581
"If there's a range that won't let me collect my own brass, I like to bring my AK with steel cased ammo."
Nope. No steel allowed. I asked "you mean no steel projos, right? Steel casings OK?" They said nope. So I don't shoot my SKS there either.
Nope. No steel allowed. I asked "you mean no steel projos, right? Steel casings OK?" They said nope. So I don't shoot my SKS there either.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 02:17 PM (qpX6U)
582
Anyone have any idea what the hell this is? I have never heard of "BTS stans".
BTS stans are beating QAnon and MAGA supporters at their own game
In the past few months, K-pop stans have regularly hijacked QAnon and MAGA hashtags. They've led get-out-the-vote efforts against the president. And many were among the online pranksters who boasted about helping derail a Trump rally in Tulsa.
Businessweek on Twitter: https://bit.ly/37QBUSL
BTS stans are beating QAnon and MAGA supporters at their own game
In the past few months, K-pop stans have regularly hijacked QAnon and MAGA hashtags. They've led get-out-the-vote efforts against the president. And many were among the online pranksters who boasted about helping derail a Trump rally in Tulsa.
Businessweek on Twitter: https://bit.ly/37QBUSL
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 28, 2020 02:17 PM (Do5/p)
583
I'm honestly surprised at the media still pushing covid fear 6 months later to a western population with an 8 second attention span.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 28, 2020 02:17 PM (v2c9/)
584
564 I kind of have a thing for Marsha Blackburn. She is older than I am and a blond, but those hot librarian glasses get to me. Plus she takes no shit. Like that in a woman.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Tinfoil Hat Wearer at October 28, 2020 02:15 PM (tX2OH)
Saw a clip of her interviewing Comey.
She knows her stuff and called him well on his bs.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Tinfoil Hat Wearer at October 28, 2020 02:15 PM (tX2OH)
Saw a clip of her interviewing Comey.
She knows her stuff and called him well on his bs.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 28, 2020 02:17 PM (/wRdn)
585
On, Risconsin! On, Risconsin! Plunge right through that rine!
Run the ball right down the field, a touchdown sure this time.
On, Risconsin! On, Risconsin! Fight on for her fame,
Fight! Fellows! Fight! Fight, fight, we'll win this game.
Posted by: A Christmas Story Chinese Restaurant Singers at October 28, 2020 07:11 AM (Do5/p)
Run the ball right down the field, a touchdown sure this time.
On, Risconsin! On, Risconsin! Fight on for her fame,
Fight! Fellows! Fight! Fight, fight, we'll win this game.
Posted by: A Christmas Story Chinese Restaurant Singers at October 28, 2020 07:11 AM (Do5/p)
Posted by: andycanuck at October 28, 2020 02:17 PM (an7Mv)
586
Smooth. Pointy might hurt you hands as you get them out of the small leather bag.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World
I think you might be right.
Regarding the polls? What difference, at this point, do they make? We'll all find out together when the real poll is done next week, and I'm satisfied to wait either for the celebration or for plan b.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World
I think you might be right.
Regarding the polls? What difference, at this point, do they make? We'll all find out together when the real poll is done next week, and I'm satisfied to wait either for the celebration or for plan b.
Posted by: Hierominous Botch at October 28, 2020 02:18 PM (YqED9)
587
Latest CDC comorbidity data (Oct 24)
210,326 deaths involving COVID-19
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death.
91,153 influenza & pneumonia
18,421 chronic lower respiratory diseases
27,141 adult respiratory distress syndrome
73,703 respiratory failure
4,280 respiratory arrest
7,966 other diseases of the respiratory system
45,574 hypertensive diseases
24,002 ischemic heart disease
25,588 cardiac arrest
13,588 cardiac arrhythmia
14,193 heart failure
10,470 cerebrovascular diseases
12,190 other diseases of the circulatory system
19,834 sepsis
9,865 malignant neoplasms
34,627 diabetes
7,985 obesity
7,722 Alzheimer disease
23,647 vascular and unspecified dementia
19,022 renal failure
7,384 injuries, poisonings, adverse events
108,055 all other conditions and causes
210,326 deaths involving COVID-19
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death.
91,153 influenza & pneumonia
18,421 chronic lower respiratory diseases
27,141 adult respiratory distress syndrome
73,703 respiratory failure
4,280 respiratory arrest
7,966 other diseases of the respiratory system
45,574 hypertensive diseases
24,002 ischemic heart disease
25,588 cardiac arrest
13,588 cardiac arrhythmia
14,193 heart failure
10,470 cerebrovascular diseases
12,190 other diseases of the circulatory system
19,834 sepsis
9,865 malignant neoplasms
34,627 diabetes
7,985 obesity
7,722 Alzheimer disease
23,647 vascular and unspecified dementia
19,022 renal failure
7,384 injuries, poisonings, adverse events
108,055 all other conditions and causes
Posted by: Numbers might not add up due to fudging at October 28, 2020 02:18 PM (BBWrU)
588
>>Plus she takes no shit. Like that in a woman.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Tinfoil Hat Wearer at October 28, 2020 02:15 PM (tX2OH)
(Puts librarian glasses on Zombie Eileen Wuornos)
There ya go. Top-shelf.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Tinfoil Hat Wearer at October 28, 2020 02:15 PM (tX2OH)
(Puts librarian glasses on Zombie Eileen Wuornos)
There ya go. Top-shelf.
Posted by: Zod at October 28, 2020 02:18 PM (6J5Fm)
589
Seems to me, the main reason for such a rule is to keep brass scavengers from making nuisances of themselves on the firing line.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
That's the argument they use. Until you see them cleaning it up. Then you know they are keeping it for themselves.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
That's the argument they use. Until you see them cleaning it up. Then you know they are keeping it for themselves.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2020 02:18 PM (+UWHh)
590
Fvckin Fauci was claiming yesterday the vaccines won't stop infection, merely prevent symptoms.
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Fauci needs to be loaded onto that wooden Russian Ferris wheel without a seat strap and have its engine turned up to 11.
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Fauci needs to be loaded onto that wooden Russian Ferris wheel without a seat strap and have its engine turned up to 11.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 28, 2020 02:18 PM (O+I8R)
591
Some industrious Biden supporter took a van full of signs and was putting them out on miles of one of our heavily used back roads. It's rural, so he was trying to carefully place them along the road where it looked like the people who lived there support Biden- but they didn't. It was one guy placing the signs. Incidentally one homeowner wasn't amused. He came out, took it down and frisbee's it into the woods.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 28, 2020 02:18 PM (VpIIl)
592
A good deal of these polls get their data from polling websites that pay people a Nickel for every poll they take. I think the demographics of people who have nothing better than taking polls might be a bit skewed towards one side.
Posted by: Surfperch at October 28, 2020 02:18 PM (/4vtq)
Posted by: garrett at October 28, 2020 02:18 PM (UMRYN)
Posted by: t-bird at October 28, 2020 02:18 PM (2nFxy)
595
"I doubt they'll do anything but warn you. If you persist, you won't be allowed back"
That's the rub. There aren't many places to shoot anymore where I live. Gotta follow all the rules.
That's the rub. There aren't many places to shoot anymore where I live. Gotta follow all the rules.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 02:18 PM (qpX6U)
596
556 > European virility died 75 years ago. Dead.
That was the final nail in the coffin, definitely, but they'd been bleeding testosterone for centuries.
WWI killed a whole generation of the best and brightest, and before that their best men had been heading off to the colonies for a very long time.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 28, 2020 02:14 PM (VikfB)
Read an interesting Historic theses that the Dueling Code they had in France, led to the Revolution.
Why? 30% of French Aristocracy killed themselves off in 100 year period.
And these were the 'most honorable' and bravest.
Diluted the gene pool. Social Darwinism.
That was the final nail in the coffin, definitely, but they'd been bleeding testosterone for centuries.
WWI killed a whole generation of the best and brightest, and before that their best men had been heading off to the colonies for a very long time.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 28, 2020 02:14 PM (VikfB)
Read an interesting Historic theses that the Dueling Code they had in France, led to the Revolution.
Why? 30% of French Aristocracy killed themselves off in 100 year period.
And these were the 'most honorable' and bravest.
Diluted the gene pool. Social Darwinism.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 28, 2020 02:19 PM (NgKpN)
597
Mommy, I'm afraid. My only comfort is to curl up here at AoS surrounded by the soft pillows of sanity, humor and smarts.
Posted by: zombie
=========
i mentioned up at #67 that I'm spending some time with the best and the brightest. People who speak in paragraphs, use smooth and neutral language, have terabytes of data at their fingertips, and work with 0s and 1s are part of the same "real" America. Add pillows.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 28, 2020 01:51 PM (G51Gf)
We at AoS even have our own bacon wench. SCORE!
Mommy, I'm afraid. My only comfort is to curl up here at AoS surrounded by the soft pillows of sanity, humor and smarts.
Posted by: zombie
=========
i mentioned up at #67 that I'm spending some time with the best and the brightest. People who speak in paragraphs, use smooth and neutral language, have terabytes of data at their fingertips, and work with 0s and 1s are part of the same "real" America. Add pillows.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 28, 2020 01:51 PM (G51Gf)
We at AoS even have our own bacon wench. SCORE!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 28, 2020 02:19 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at October 28, 2020 02:19 PM (Zz0t1)
599
If we see hours-long lines on election day, and the Democrats filing emergency lawsuits to keep polls open until midnight, then we'll know millions of people voted twice. They mailed in a ballot, then they voted in person.
If we see hours-long lines on election day, and the Democrats filing emergency lawsuits to keep polls open until midnight, then we'll know millions of people voted twice. They mailed in a ballot, then they voted in person.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at October 28, 2020 02:19 PM (vXLpE)
600
Germany's going to complete lockdown on Nov. 2. No restaurants, no gatherings, no hotels.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 28, 2020 02:19 PM (wzVKm)
601
In fact, I might even go so far as to declare PA & MI for Trump at this point - a Trump win.
Posted by: Optimizer
----------
I'm close to the same conclusion.
I'm going to make a prediction in the morning, but will hedge and offer a "red wave" prediction and a more conservative prediction.
But I think Trump winning both of these states will be in both.
Posted by: Optimizer
----------
I'm close to the same conclusion.
I'm going to make a prediction in the morning, but will hedge and offer a "red wave" prediction and a more conservative prediction.
But I think Trump winning both of these states will be in both.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 28, 2020 02:19 PM (5p7BC)
602
523
Anyone have any 40mm brass? I'm running low on my Bofers reloading supplies.
Posted by: Archer at October 28, 2020 02:10 PM (gmo/4)
You can be in my foxhole.
Anyone have any 40mm brass? I'm running low on my Bofers reloading supplies.
Posted by: Archer at October 28, 2020 02:10 PM (gmo/4)
You can be in my foxhole.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 28, 2020 02:19 PM (KnJdm)
603
598 Jack Dorsey said he's not censoring conservative viewpoints.
He's a lying sack of shit.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at October 28, 2020 02:19 PM (Zz0t1)
___
He isn't. His 10,000 employees are.
He's a lying sack of shit.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at October 28, 2020 02:19 PM (Zz0t1)
___
He isn't. His 10,000 employees are.
Posted by: Asshoes at October 28, 2020 02:19 PM (22mNy)
604
He had ORCA.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 02:10 PM (NWM+b)
This is something that confuses me, being from the IT world. Why in all of the heavens, does a campaign need to create campaign software every four years? This seems like a fairly standard thing that the party would put together and have ready for whoever is the candidate. Plus, the down ticket candidates could use it to create a more robust network.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 28, 2020 02:10 PM (NWM+b)
This is something that confuses me, being from the IT world. Why in all of the heavens, does a campaign need to create campaign software every four years? This seems like a fairly standard thing that the party would put together and have ready for whoever is the candidate. Plus, the down ticket candidates could use it to create a more robust network.
Posted by: WOPR - Free Kyle Rittenhouse at October 28, 2020 02:20 PM (J70i0)
605
Dave in Fla , where do these "biden 17 ahead" numbers are coming from???
Posted by: runner at October 28, 2020 02:17 PM (dTqaU)
Pollsters anuses.
Posted by: runner at October 28, 2020 02:17 PM (dTqaU)
Pollsters anuses.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at October 28, 2020 02:20 PM (Zz0t1)
606
Fvckin Fauci was claiming yesterday the vaccines won't stop infection, merely prevent symptoms.
He's right that it won't eliminate the virus. It will still exist in the world and be around, forever.
But eliminating the symptoms of the virus = cured. Whether or not the stuff is in your system or not is irrelevant, its not a pack of goblins that come out at night and steal half your socks or something. If you aren't sick from it, then it doesn't matter if you are carrying it or not.
He's right that it won't eliminate the virus. It will still exist in the world and be around, forever.
But eliminating the symptoms of the virus = cured. Whether or not the stuff is in your system or not is irrelevant, its not a pack of goblins that come out at night and steal half your socks or something. If you aren't sick from it, then it doesn't matter if you are carrying it or not.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 02:20 PM (KZzsI)
607
I'd like to think pollster wouldn't be willing to burn their credibility on a bonfire of Biden boosterism (alliteration!), but ever other institution in the country, from the FBI to MSM to Big Tech, seems willing to do so, so why not pollsters?
Posted by: OpinionChecker - because FactChecking is no longer enough at October 28, 2020 02:20 PM (dYe5S)
608
Bongino ran for Congress in 2016, and lost. He tells the story of his "walk lists", which are lists of Republican voters in particular neighborhoods that the candidates use to go door-knocking.
He would take his list and go out and knock, but keep seeing all these Trump signs at houses not on his list. So he'd knock on those doors and the people in the houses would say: "Haven't voted in 20 years. I'm voting this year."
I think there is a very large portion of D voters who are flipping to R this year, but are silent when asked about their preference. Most of them are minorities, too. And of course there are also people who haven't voted for decades who are going to vote for Trump.
He would take his list and go out and knock, but keep seeing all these Trump signs at houses not on his list. So he'd knock on those doors and the people in the houses would say: "Haven't voted in 20 years. I'm voting this year."
I think there is a very large portion of D voters who are flipping to R this year, but are silent when asked about their preference. Most of them are minorities, too. And of course there are also people who haven't voted for decades who are going to vote for Trump.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 28, 2020 02:20 PM (BM2fS)
609
Nood twitter asshat.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 28, 2020 02:20 PM (KnJdm)
610
590 Fvckin Fauci was claiming yesterday the vaccines won't stop infection, merely prevent symptoms.
--
Fauci needs to be loaded onto that wooden Russian Ferris wheel without a seat strap and have its engine turned up to 11.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 28, 2020 02:18 PM (O+I8R)
So, the whole vaccine industry is one big LIE?
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Fauci needs to be loaded onto that wooden Russian Ferris wheel without a seat strap and have its engine turned up to 11.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 28, 2020 02:18 PM (O+I8R)
So, the whole vaccine industry is one big LIE?
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 28, 2020 02:20 PM (NgKpN)
611
If we see hours-long lines on election day, and the Democrats filing
emergency lawsuits to keep polls open until midnight, then we'll know ...
... its election day.
emergency lawsuits to keep polls open until midnight, then we'll know ...
... its election day.
Posted by: That Guy (formerly SH) at October 28, 2020 02:20 PM (sX1BW)
612
>>600 Germany's going to complete lockdown on Nov. 2. No restaurants, no gatherings, no hotels.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 28, 2020 02:19 PM (wzVKm)
Ordnung muss sein.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 28, 2020 02:19 PM (wzVKm)
Ordnung muss sein.
Posted by: Zod at October 28, 2020 02:20 PM (6J5Fm)
613
I've been going through thought experiments if Biden wins.
I must say, part of me wants to see that asshole suffer through four years of running the US.
He has a bad bargain, either way he loses. He wins, he loses. He loses, he loses.
This is karma coming to fuck him up, rightly.
If he won, all those douches who were all MUH VULGARITY would have elected the most vulgar Pres in modern times...I'm sure there are others, but Joe has so many different areas that he's sleazed his way through.
And that commodity that they love so much for some fucked up reason, someone who is good at speeches and talking and shit, it's Joe Biden they had to vote for.
A dude who is the worst public speaker I've seen.
LOL.
Is that what's called a Faustian bargain?
Get bent lefties. Enjoy.
I've been going through thought experiments if Biden wins.
I must say, part of me wants to see that asshole suffer through four years of running the US.
He has a bad bargain, either way he loses. He wins, he loses. He loses, he loses.
This is karma coming to fuck him up, rightly.
If he won, all those douches who were all MUH VULGARITY would have elected the most vulgar Pres in modern times...I'm sure there are others, but Joe has so many different areas that he's sleazed his way through.
And that commodity that they love so much for some fucked up reason, someone who is good at speeches and talking and shit, it's Joe Biden they had to vote for.
A dude who is the worst public speaker I've seen.
LOL.
Is that what's called a Faustian bargain?
Get bent lefties. Enjoy.
Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at October 28, 2020 02:20 PM (dzrUP)
614
nood. cruz v dorsey.
Posted by: BluesFish at October 28, 2020 02:20 PM (WQZ1O)
615
Appreciate your research, Dave in FL.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 28, 2020 02:21 PM (a1/fh)
616
Is Biden now claiming he grew up poor? Who cares?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 28, 2020 02:21 PM (lgiXo)
617
How anyone keeps it straight is beyond me.
The bewildering array of senseless rules are designed to make you give up and give in to your better overlords and overladies, who are oh-so-much-better than you. Worldly-wise they are. As such, they are not to be questioned, only obeyed.
The bewildering array of senseless rules are designed to make you give up and give in to your better overlords and overladies, who are oh-so-much-better than you. Worldly-wise they are. As such, they are not to be questioned, only obeyed.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - A vote for Biden is a vote for the ChiComs at October 28, 2020 02:21 PM (HaL55)
618
Jack Dorsey said he's not censoring conservative viewpoints.
He's not. His people working for him are. See, he isn't lying!
He's not. His people working for him are. See, he isn't lying!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 02:21 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 28, 2020 02:21 PM (v2c9/)
620
580 Dave in Fla , where do these "biden 17 ahead" numbers are coming from???
Posted by: runner at October 28, 2020 02:17 PM (dTqaU)
Not Dave, but I'll answer in brief:
they have samples that mix registered and likely voters, as well as grossly underestimate the Republican portion of the electorate, as well as feature Republicans who have only a half-hearted approval of the President.
1. Likely voters are the voters now that we're a week out.
2. The GOP will have close to a tie if not a slight edge over Dems in terms of who is voting
3. The President's approval is something like 94%, so when you poll a bunch of the 6%, you get polls that show him losing Wisconsin by 17 points (the biggest margin of defeat for a GOP in decades, if not ever).
Posted by: runner at October 28, 2020 02:17 PM (dTqaU)
Not Dave, but I'll answer in brief:
they have samples that mix registered and likely voters, as well as grossly underestimate the Republican portion of the electorate, as well as feature Republicans who have only a half-hearted approval of the President.
1. Likely voters are the voters now that we're a week out.
2. The GOP will have close to a tie if not a slight edge over Dems in terms of who is voting
3. The President's approval is something like 94%, so when you poll a bunch of the 6%, you get polls that show him losing Wisconsin by 17 points (the biggest margin of defeat for a GOP in decades, if not ever).
Posted by: Shenanigans at October 28, 2020 02:21 PM (ZR7kf)
621
"Starting Thursday at 06:00, residents of Bigglehampton, Lower Wendworth and the Eastern Dales are not allowed to met in groups of greater than six, unless they are in a social bubble stablished prior to September 17. Attendance at Premiere League and semi-professional sporting events is prohibited, although amateur events are allowed provided no more than 50 people are in attendance. Chepstowe, Upper Wrenchester and Outer Middlesex prohibit pubs from serving after 21:30, unless they serve hot food (not including fish and chips nor chicken wings, which are classified as "pub food"), in which case they may continue serving until 23:00...."
And on and on it goes for paragraph after paragraph.
"And persons in the town of Peebles are expressly forbidden from leaving their houses after 10 at night, unless Mr. Biggles, the large white and tan Manx, is pouting outside and refusing to come in and eat his din din, and in that case a member of Mr. Biggles household is permitted to go out onto the street and make the noise of a tin of catfood opening in order to entice him in."
And on and on it goes for paragraph after paragraph.
"And persons in the town of Peebles are expressly forbidden from leaving their houses after 10 at night, unless Mr. Biggles, the large white and tan Manx, is pouting outside and refusing to come in and eat his din din, and in that case a member of Mr. Biggles household is permitted to go out onto the street and make the noise of a tin of catfood opening in order to entice him in."
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 28, 2020 02:21 PM (Kpl3J)
622
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He isn't. His 10,000 employees are.
Posted by: Asshoes at October 28, 2020 02:19 PM (22mNy)
Per his command.
He isn't. His 10,000 employees are.
Posted by: Asshoes at October 28, 2020 02:19 PM (22mNy)
Per his command.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at October 28, 2020 02:21 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at October 28, 2020 02:21 PM (vXLpE)
624
Anyone have any idea what the hell this is? I have never heard of "BTS stans".
I can kind of explain this. BTS is a Korean pop band. Their fans (pre-pubescent girls who call themselves stans) are using Twitter to manipulate Trump hashtags.
So... little girls around the world who don't vote in the US are messing with Twitter, a place that does not represent the US population as a whole and is filled with liberals who agree withe aforementioned little girls.
Does that clear it up?
Anyone have any idea what the hell this is? I have never heard of "BTS stans".
I can kind of explain this. BTS is a Korean pop band. Their fans (pre-pubescent girls who call themselves stans) are using Twitter to manipulate Trump hashtags.
So... little girls around the world who don't vote in the US are messing with Twitter, a place that does not represent the US population as a whole and is filled with liberals who agree withe aforementioned little girls.
Does that clear it up?
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 28, 2020 02:21 PM (ZCiJZ)
625
So yeah, both Biden and Obama will be campaigning on Saturday in... Michigan.
Where Biden is ahead by 8%.
In the polls.
Which are completely accurate and true.
Ahem.
Where Biden is ahead by 8%.
In the polls.
Which are completely accurate and true.
Ahem.
Posted by: Joseph Dickerson at October 28, 2020 02:22 PM (KTq2u)
626
When the powers want to open the country back up, after trying to take down Trump, they will quit reporting the NUMBER OF NEW COVID CASES, EEK!, and start reporting the lowering death rate, even with massive new testing cases that grow that number.
Because the death rate is continuing to fall.
Oh, and did you see how the death rate from the flu has nearly disappeared? How did that happen?
Maybe it got mixed in with the Covid death rate? Hmmm?
When the powers want to open the country back up, after trying to take down Trump, they will quit reporting the NUMBER OF NEW COVID CASES, EEK!, and start reporting the lowering death rate, even with massive new testing cases that grow that number.
Because the death rate is continuing to fall.
Oh, and did you see how the death rate from the flu has nearly disappeared? How did that happen?
Maybe it got mixed in with the Covid death rate? Hmmm?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 28, 2020 02:22 PM (sy5kK)
627
I told my dad last night I was certain of victory and he asked how I know and I told him Dave in FL said so.
He was like, who? Dave. In Florida.
He said okay.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 28, 2020 02:15 PM (3aLWR)
then he grabbed the phone and said what are you wearing dave in florida
uh...khakis
He was like, who? Dave. In Florida.
He said okay.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 28, 2020 02:15 PM (3aLWR)
then he grabbed the phone and said what are you wearing dave in florida
uh...khakis
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 28, 2020 02:22 PM (9Om/r)
628
Good Lord, what a bunch of scaredy-cats you all are!
I stopped reading at "ABC News Poll". ALL of the major network polls are lies. Same as NYT and WaPo.
You have one job (two actually) - get out and vote; get your like-minded friends and family to vote.
Leave it all out on the field, no regrets no shame. That's what the President is doing.
I stopped reading at "ABC News Poll". ALL of the major network polls are lies. Same as NYT and WaPo.
You have one job (two actually) - get out and vote; get your like-minded friends and family to vote.
Leave it all out on the field, no regrets no shame. That's what the President is doing.
Posted by: Seamus Moon at October 28, 2020 02:22 PM (DpAdM)
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I mean, dummy, there's a "trump mismanaged" script:
1. trump screwed up
2. I shut border, set up CDC task force
3. there's no test
4. I had to make tests
5. no ventilators
6. No one who needed a Vent denied one
and on and on.
the left politicized hcq and made fun of discussions of alternative therapies. you were hysterical loons from day one...well, not day one. On day one you were impeaching trump for investigating the Biden crime family, on day 20, you were licking doorknobs in China town, and so on...
1. trump screwed up
2. I shut border, set up CDC task force
3. there's no test
4. I had to make tests
5. no ventilators
6. No one who needed a Vent denied one
and on and on.
the left politicized hcq and made fun of discussions of alternative therapies. you were hysterical loons from day one...well, not day one. On day one you were impeaching trump for investigating the Biden crime family, on day 20, you were licking doorknobs in China town, and so on...
Posted by: official redcheckmark at October 28, 2020 02:22 PM (3XvN1)
630
Dave in Fla , where do these "biden 17 ahead" numbers are coming from???
Posted by: runner
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Being generous? Very bad samples where they don't get any working class men in the sample.
What I really think is happening? They are faking the results. Straight up fraud.
Posted by: runner
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Being generous? Very bad samples where they don't get any working class men in the sample.
What I really think is happening? They are faking the results. Straight up fraud.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 28, 2020 02:22 PM (5p7BC)
631
Question for the Horde: smooth rocks or rough/pointy ones?
Posted by: Hierominous Botch at October 28, 2020 02:07 PM (YqED9)
Smooth ones. Sharp ones are hard on bags.
Posted by: Hierominous Botch at October 28, 2020 02:07 PM (YqED9)
Smooth ones. Sharp ones are hard on bags.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 28, 2020 02:23 PM (9Xp6e)
632
563 Arizona is over.
Florida is over.
North Carolina is over.
Iowa is over.
Ohio is over.
Texas is over.
Georgia is over.
ME-2 is over.
Trump leads in MI.
Trump leads or is tied in PA.
Trump leads of is tied in WI.
Trump is tied in NH.
Trump is tied in NV.
Trump is close of tied in MN.
This election is a certain as you can possibly make it 6 days away from the election.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 28, 2020 02:11 PM (5p7BC)
I agree except for NV & NH.
The amount of cheating in Clark County NV is well known. I hope I'm wrong
NH is always tough, but Biden came in 5th (I think in the primaries), so there's a chance.
I actually think Trump has a good chance in MN. Trump only lost by 1.5% in 2016 and Gary Johnson grabbed 4%
Florida is over.
North Carolina is over.
Iowa is over.
Ohio is over.
Texas is over.
Georgia is over.
ME-2 is over.
Trump leads in MI.
Trump leads or is tied in PA.
Trump leads of is tied in WI.
Trump is tied in NH.
Trump is tied in NV.
Trump is close of tied in MN.
This election is a certain as you can possibly make it 6 days away from the election.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 28, 2020 02:11 PM (5p7BC)
I agree except for NV & NH.
The amount of cheating in Clark County NV is well known. I hope I'm wrong
NH is always tough, but Biden came in 5th (I think in the primaries), so there's a chance.
I actually think Trump has a good chance in MN. Trump only lost by 1.5% in 2016 and Gary Johnson grabbed 4%
Posted by: JoeNYC at October 28, 2020 02:23 PM (3RGRd)
Posted by: DB- just DB. at October 28, 2020 02:23 PM (iTXRQ)
634
None of the media will publish anything about Huntergate, so why would they publish polls showing Trump winning?
Meanwhile, our stupid governor wants us all to stay home, but hasn't got the balls to try to make it official.
Meanwhile, our stupid governor wants us all to stay home, but hasn't got the balls to try to make it official.
Posted by: Roland THTG at October 28, 2020 02:23 PM (cJEnq)
635
Top of the hour FOX radio news.
COVID! EEK! RECORD CASES!
STOCK MARKET DOWN, NEW COVID WAVE IN EUROPE!
AMERICA IS LISTENING TO FOX NEWS!
I'm too lazy to get up and turn off the volume, Rush will be back in a few minutes.
And other than the talking heads and Gutfeld/Watters, Fox News is as corrupt as the rest of them.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 28, 2020 02:04 PM (sy5kK)
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STOP WATCHING & LISTENING TO FUX NEWS. Thank You ! Come Again
COVID! EEK! RECORD CASES!
STOCK MARKET DOWN, NEW COVID WAVE IN EUROPE!
AMERICA IS LISTENING TO FOX NEWS!
I'm too lazy to get up and turn off the volume, Rush will be back in a few minutes.
And other than the talking heads and Gutfeld/Watters, Fox News is as corrupt as the rest of them.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 28, 2020 02:04 PM (sy5kK)
*********
STOP WATCHING & LISTENING TO FUX NEWS. Thank You ! Come Again
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 28, 2020 02:23 PM (asQlL)
636
549 "Some of them allow a brass catcher with semi's, but "if it hits the ground, it's ours"."
Not mine. I asked. Brass catchers are a safety hazard sez them.
When I was in the local rifle club, I'd scarf every casing I could find. Got bitched out over that too. F them.
My local Conservation Club has reloading classes and encourages us to "pick up all the brass we can" just to make maintenance easier. I pick up every caliber, sort and process what I need, then I also go back to the Club and trade them calibers I don't use for calibers I do reload. On a good day they'll trade me for equal weight. On a bad day they'll ask for a premium in weight for higher calibers. I love my club!!!
Not mine. I asked. Brass catchers are a safety hazard sez them.
When I was in the local rifle club, I'd scarf every casing I could find. Got bitched out over that too. F them.
My local Conservation Club has reloading classes and encourages us to "pick up all the brass we can" just to make maintenance easier. I pick up every caliber, sort and process what I need, then I also go back to the Club and trade them calibers I don't use for calibers I do reload. On a good day they'll trade me for equal weight. On a bad day they'll ask for a premium in weight for higher calibers. I love my club!!!
Posted by: MrObvious at October 28, 2020 02:24 PM (k+h+d)
637
Germany's going to complete lockdown on Nov. 2. No restaurants, no gatherings, no hotels.
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30 millions Germans ....frustrated by confinement.....that can't be good....
-Slightly distraught Poland
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30 millions Germans ....frustrated by confinement.....that can't be good....
-Slightly distraught Poland
Posted by: runner at October 28, 2020 02:24 PM (dTqaU)
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612
>>600 Germany's going to complete lockdown on Nov. 2. No restaurants, no gatherings, no hotels.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 28, 2020 02:19 PM (wzVKm)
Ordnung muss sein.
Posted by: Zod at October 28, 2020 02:20 PM (6J5Fm)
Anybody tell the muzzies in their no-go zones?
>>600 Germany's going to complete lockdown on Nov. 2. No restaurants, no gatherings, no hotels.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 28, 2020 02:19 PM (wzVKm)
Ordnung muss sein.
Posted by: Zod at October 28, 2020 02:20 PM (6J5Fm)
Anybody tell the muzzies in their no-go zones?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 28, 2020 02:24 PM (N39Ws)
639
(Puts librarian glasses on Zombie Eileen Wuornos)
There ya go. Top-shelf.
Posted by: Zod at October 28, 2020 02:18 PM (6J5Fm)
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Ended my interest in Charlize Theron. Especially given her family history.
There ya go. Top-shelf.
Posted by: Zod at October 28, 2020 02:18 PM (6J5Fm)
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Ended my interest in Charlize Theron. Especially given her family history.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Tinfoil Hat Wearer at October 28, 2020 02:24 PM (tX2OH)
640
Germany's going to complete lockdown on Nov. 2. No restaurants, no gatherings, no hotels.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 28, 2020 02:19 PM (wzVKm)
Things always slow down after October Fest!
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 28, 2020 02:19 PM (wzVKm)
Things always slow down after October Fest!
Posted by: Archer at October 28, 2020 02:24 PM (gmo/4)
641
ask a simple question how many voters do you think PDT has lost in the last 4 years?? Then add how many new voters has he gained & how many D''s & I's did Bidet/KamaSutra & company scare into PDT's Column ?
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 28, 2020 02:25 PM (asQlL)
642
Oktoberfest.
Posted by: Archer at October 28, 2020 02:25 PM (gmo/4)
643
This time around Biden is the generic Dem vs the demonized Trump.
Posted by: davidt at October 28, 2020 02:12 PM (l3+k2)
My daughter and her husband are Bernie supporters. They loath Biden in general and Democratic Party leadership in particular for stopping their guy from taking the Dem nomination. My daughter says they might sit this one out (although I'm doubtful on that score).
Yeah, I know: my daughter is a commie. I love her anyway.
Posted by: davidt at October 28, 2020 02:12 PM (l3+k2)
My daughter and her husband are Bernie supporters. They loath Biden in general and Democratic Party leadership in particular for stopping their guy from taking the Dem nomination. My daughter says they might sit this one out (although I'm doubtful on that score).
Yeah, I know: my daughter is a commie. I love her anyway.
Posted by: troyriser at October 28, 2020 02:25 PM (OLtrr)
644
30 millions Germans ....frustrated by confinement.....that can't be good....
-Slightly distraught Poland
Posted by: runner at October 28, 2020 02:24 PM (dTqaU)
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Blissfully unaware...Czech Republic.
-Slightly distraught Poland
Posted by: runner at October 28, 2020 02:24 PM (dTqaU)
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Blissfully unaware...Czech Republic.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Tinfoil Hat Wearer at October 28, 2020 02:25 PM (tX2OH)
645
What ever you do, don't mention the war!
Posted by: Archer at October 28, 2020 02:26 PM (gmo/4)
646
Read an interesting Historic theses that the Dueling Code they had in France, led to the Revolution.
Why? 30% of French Aristocracy killed themselves off in 100 year period.
And these were the 'most honorable' and bravest.
Diluted the gene pool. Social Darwinism.
Posted by: Romeo13
That's why you always shoot "the second".
Why? 30% of French Aristocracy killed themselves off in 100 year period.
And these were the 'most honorable' and bravest.
Diluted the gene pool. Social Darwinism.
Posted by: Romeo13
That's why you always shoot "the second".
Posted by: rickb223 at October 28, 2020 02:26 PM (+UWHh)
647
By election, half the expected turnout will have already mailed in a ballot. Lines shouldn't be long on election day.
By election, half the expected turnout will have already mailed in a ballot. Lines shouldn't be long on election day.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at October 28, 2020 02:28 PM (vXLpE)
648
492
Polls and Polls! What is Polls??
Polls is Controller, yes?
Posted by: Kara
As a female, I wish I didn't understand this.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 28, 2020 02:07 PM (ZCiJZ)
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I'd pay actual folding money to meet a female who DID understand this.
Polls and Polls! What is Polls??
Polls is Controller, yes?
Posted by: Kara
As a female, I wish I didn't understand this.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 28, 2020 02:07 PM (ZCiJZ)
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I'd pay actual folding money to meet a female who DID understand this.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at October 28, 2020 02:28 PM (+3rQF)
649
150 "are we in a bubble?"
Isn't that the safest place to be these days?
333 Last Marquette Poll before election for WI.
Biden 48, Trump 43, Undecided 8
Given the error margin and number of undecideds (that typically break to incumbent), this is easily surmountable.
Also, it's rather easy to rig a poll these days: just call everyone around 1:30pm, only the Skype/Zoom class will be unbusy.
Isn't that the safest place to be these days?
333 Last Marquette Poll before election for WI.
Biden 48, Trump 43, Undecided 8
Given the error margin and number of undecideds (that typically break to incumbent), this is easily surmountable.
Also, it's rather easy to rig a poll these days: just call everyone around 1:30pm, only the Skype/Zoom class will be unbusy.
Posted by: Willowed commenter at October 28, 2020 02:29 PM (BBWrU)
650
618
Jack Dorsey said he's not censoring conservative viewpoints.
He's not. His people working for him are. See, he isn't lying!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 02:21 PM (KZzsI)
Repost:
For those who don't know how AI works, the gist of it is that you create an algorithm, train it on sets of data to obtain a desired outcome, check that it is doing what you want (correctly identifying streetlights versus icecream trucks, for example), then unleash it in the real world on real-word data (e.g., social media posts).
So Big Tech can say that it is just AI doing all the censorship and up-ranking and down-ranking of news. But in reality, the AI is just doing what Big Tech programmed and taught the AI to do.
Jack Dorsey said he's not censoring conservative viewpoints.
He's not. His people working for him are. See, he isn't lying!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 28, 2020 02:21 PM (KZzsI)
Repost:
For those who don't know how AI works, the gist of it is that you create an algorithm, train it on sets of data to obtain a desired outcome, check that it is doing what you want (correctly identifying streetlights versus icecream trucks, for example), then unleash it in the real world on real-word data (e.g., social media posts).
So Big Tech can say that it is just AI doing all the censorship and up-ranking and down-ranking of news. But in reality, the AI is just doing what Big Tech programmed and taught the AI to do.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 28, 2020 02:30 PM (KnJdm)
651
" both Biden and Obama will be campaigning on Saturday in... Michigan."
BU BU BU BUT ISNT THIS GONNA BE A SUPERDUPERSPREADER THEN!!!
" both Biden and Obama will be campaigning on Saturday in... Michigan."
BU BU BU BUT ISNT THIS GONNA BE A SUPERDUPERSPREADER THEN!!!
Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at October 28, 2020 02:31 PM (dzrUP)
652
I agree with Trafalgar: WI is going to be tough for Trump.
In Rural SW WI here, and there are a lot more Biden signs than you'd expect. Probably about 2:1 Biden to Trump.
In Rural SW WI here, and there are a lot more Biden signs than you'd expect. Probably about 2:1 Biden to Trump.
Posted by: Gman at October 28, 2020 02:33 PM (GfWuY)
653
That's the rub. There aren't many places to shoot anymore where I live. Gotta follow all the rules.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 02:18 PM (qpX6U)
Spray gold laquer on the steel-cased ammo.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at October 28, 2020 02:18 PM (qpX6U)
Spray gold laquer on the steel-cased ammo.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 28, 2020 02:34 PM (4Vqa8)
654
For what it's worth, I live in Wisconsin and the local leftist news hacks in NE Wisconsin just put both the ABC and MU poll stories showing Biden's leading by 5-17 point and 98% of commenters aren't buying it in the slightest.
Even a good chunk of them on the uber liberal JSOnline aren't buying it.
Even a good chunk of them on the uber liberal JSOnline aren't buying it.
Posted by: Scuzz at October 28, 2020 02:37 PM (rmiQg)
655
My take on Trump's current floor and ceiling in EVs:
Floor: 208 EVs and it all starts with Trump losing FL
Ceiling: 295 EVs and it starts with Trump winning FL
I don't have him winning AZ which is why it's under 300 EVs.
Yes, I tend to lean pessimistic and I'll be glad to have everyone roundly mock me if Trump stomps Biden, but it's the way I see it right now. If the media were honestly reporting Biden's corruption, Trump would be looking at > 330 Evs, but they aren't, so he isn't.
Floor: 208 EVs and it all starts with Trump losing FL
Ceiling: 295 EVs and it starts with Trump winning FL
I don't have him winning AZ which is why it's under 300 EVs.
Yes, I tend to lean pessimistic and I'll be glad to have everyone roundly mock me if Trump stomps Biden, but it's the way I see it right now. If the media were honestly reporting Biden's corruption, Trump would be looking at > 330 Evs, but they aren't, so he isn't.
Posted by: physics geek at October 28, 2020 02:39 PM (huQJB)
656
Posted by: physics geek at October 28, 2020 02:39 PM (huQJB
*******
Lean Pessimistic, You have fallen over
*******
Lean Pessimistic, You have fallen over
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 28, 2020 02:41 PM (asQlL)
657
I am in Nevada, and doing some analysis - looking at early vote tallies for week 1/2 , comparing 2016 to 2020, and modeling some variables like Dem defection to R, and vice versa, split between Unaffiliated voters, election day turnout etc etc
Today, I saw my first positive development for Trump
He lost by 2.4% in 2016 - I am waiting for 3 more days of in person/mail-on voting before I will make a guess as to where this is headed
Today, I saw my first positive development for Trump
He lost by 2.4% in 2016 - I am waiting for 3 more days of in person/mail-on voting before I will make a guess as to where this is headed
Posted by: Big Star at October 28, 2020 02:41 PM (pvJV4)
658
Lean Pessimistic, You have fallen over
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 28, 2020 02:41 PM (asQlL)
I'll take my lumps and smile while doing so if proven wrong here.
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 28, 2020 02:41 PM (asQlL)
I'll take my lumps and smile while doing so if proven wrong here.
Posted by: physics geek at October 28, 2020 02:44 PM (huQJB)
659
657 I am in Nevada, and doing some analysis - looking at early vote tallies for week 1/2 , comparing 2016 to 2020, and modeling some variables like Dem defection to R, and vice versa, split between Unaffiliated voters, election day turnout etc etc
Today, I saw my first positive development for Trump
He lost by 2.4% in 2016 - I am waiting for 3 more days of in person/mail-on voting before I will make a guess as to where this is headed
I'm doing the same thing. Doing deep Excel analysis daily on NV & FL. I feel FLA, Trump is crushing it.
NV, I don't feel to confident, but I haven't updated with today's early vote totals yet (NV gov website has been slow in updating Mon-Tues tallies.
Today, I saw my first positive development for Trump
He lost by 2.4% in 2016 - I am waiting for 3 more days of in person/mail-on voting before I will make a guess as to where this is headed
I'm doing the same thing. Doing deep Excel analysis daily on NV & FL. I feel FLA, Trump is crushing it.
NV, I don't feel to confident, but I haven't updated with today's early vote totals yet (NV gov website has been slow in updating Mon-Tues tallies.
Posted by: JoeNYC at October 28, 2020 02:55 PM (3RGRd)
660
>69
Cheeseheads are still doing laps around Stalin's coffin.
Posted by: klaftern at October 28, 2020 01:27 PM (RuIsu)
Bullshit. Go fuck yourself.
Cheeseheads are still doing laps around Stalin's coffin.
Posted by: klaftern at October 28, 2020 01:27 PM (RuIsu)
Bullshit. Go fuck yourself.
Posted by: Muad'dib at October 28, 2020 02:56 PM (sjdRT)
661
If the media were honestly reporting Biden's corruption, ...
Posted by: physics geek at October 28, 2020 02:39 PM (huQJB)
The 2016 coup is still underway.
Posted by: physics geek at October 28, 2020 02:39 PM (huQJB)
The 2016 coup is still underway.
Posted by: Gilded at October 28, 2020 03:04 PM (BRkq2)
662
Jack Posboikc on twitter has a screenshot of twitter warning "elections results may be delayed" and warns that this could lead to a candidate claiming an "uncomfirmed" victory.
In other words, they plan on counting and counting and counting...
Jack Posboikc on twitter has a screenshot of twitter warning "elections results may be delayed" and warns that this could lead to a candidate claiming an "uncomfirmed" victory.
In other words, they plan on counting and counting and counting...
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at October 28, 2020 03:13 PM (vXLpE)
663
624
Does that clear it up?
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 28, 2020 02:21 PM
Yes, thank you. Though now I am sorry I asked the question in the first place.
Serves me right for taking a break from WFH to look at Twitter. Granted, seeing the nonsense there actually makes me look forward to getting back to logical work things that make more sense...
Does that clear it up?
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 28, 2020 02:21 PM
Yes, thank you. Though now I am sorry I asked the question in the first place.
Serves me right for taking a break from WFH to look at Twitter. Granted, seeing the nonsense there actually makes me look forward to getting back to logical work things that make more sense...
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 28, 2020 03:15 PM (Do5/p)
664
627
then he grabbed the phone and said what are you wearing dave in florida
uh...khakis
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 28, 2020 02:22 PM
I literally laughed out loud!
"He sounds hideous".
"Well, he's a grey box, so..."
then he grabbed the phone and said what are you wearing dave in florida
uh...khakis
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 28, 2020 02:22 PM
I literally laughed out loud!
"He sounds hideous".
"Well, he's a grey box, so..."
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 28, 2020 03:17 PM (Do5/p)
665
For example, I have two family members who are leftists. They're not acting like people who think their guy is winning. They're acting defeated. Look at Dave in Fla's daily bullet point list of factoids, many of which are from sources independent of AoS-type information.
It looks like we're winning this. We may be wrong about that. Soon we'll know. In the meantime let's have some fun here and be happy. At the very least, being happy and joyful in the face of all this seems to annoy the shit out of leftists, which is a plus. It feels good, too.
Posted by: Mostly Peaceful Grognard at October 28, 2020 01:28 PM (b3x5S)
I saw something similar on "Outnumbered" yesterday.
Bill Bennett said he has talked to the Biden campaign, and that they said they felt "comfortable".
But he also said they seemed unenergetic or depressed - something like that.
In contrast, he said that Trump is having a GREAT time - everybody's excited!
The insiders have a pretty good idea how it's going. It's pretty obvious who's winning this thing.
It looks like we're winning this. We may be wrong about that. Soon we'll know. In the meantime let's have some fun here and be happy. At the very least, being happy and joyful in the face of all this seems to annoy the shit out of leftists, which is a plus. It feels good, too.
Posted by: Mostly Peaceful Grognard at October 28, 2020 01:28 PM (b3x5S)
I saw something similar on "Outnumbered" yesterday.
Bill Bennett said he has talked to the Biden campaign, and that they said they felt "comfortable".
But he also said they seemed unenergetic or depressed - something like that.
In contrast, he said that Trump is having a GREAT time - everybody's excited!
The insiders have a pretty good idea how it's going. It's pretty obvious who's winning this thing.
Posted by: Optimizer at October 28, 2020 03:31 PM (hOOi9)
666
Anyone who "stans" a group should be ashamed. It glorifies some pretty heinous behavior. Also, makes it hard for anyone who innocently enjoys kpop to admit it. "Stans" are obsessive freaks who think some guy or girl from one of these groups is going to meet them, a foreigner, and marry them. Also, kpop "isn't diverse enough," so they're going to start magically employing non-asian foreigners in their groups to "represent" black Americans.
Basically, stans are idiot sjw teenagers who ignore how they've been manipulated by a harsh system that rakes in money through the exploitation of young talent.
Basically, stans are idiot sjw teenagers who ignore how they've been manipulated by a harsh system that rakes in money through the exploitation of young talent.
Posted by: soulpile at October 28, 2020 03:48 PM (VTLGo)
667
Whenever one can look to the cross tabs of any of these polls, they typically have 12 Dems for every 10 Repubs. This is supposed to cover for the anticipated Dem turnout.
If one looks at the early voting, it seldom reaches this 20% advantage, in a phase of voting that Dems are supposed to dominate.
Do not know how one will reach the assumed advantage that Dems are supposed to have, if all that is left is a red wave to come.
If one looks at the early voting, it seldom reaches this 20% advantage, in a phase of voting that Dems are supposed to dominate.
Do not know how one will reach the assumed advantage that Dems are supposed to have, if all that is left is a red wave to come.
Posted by: DEEBEE at October 28, 2020 04:32 PM (yFciv)
668
309 259 This is feeling too much like 2012 again. The polls are wrong, the rallies are enthusiastic, the confident columns that Romney had it in the bag. .
- - - - - - - - - -
Except:
1. Romney gave up
2. Trump ain't Romney
Posted by: ... at October 28, 2020 01:50 PM (kcYij)
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3. And Biden is not Obama.
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Except:
1. Romney gave up
2. Trump ain't Romney
Posted by: ... at October 28, 2020 01:50 PM (kcYij)
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3. And Biden is not Obama.
Posted by: William Eaton at October 28, 2020 04:33 PM (cfkTP)
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620 580 Dave in Fla , where do these "biden 17 ahead" numbers are coming from???
Posted by: runner at October 28, 2020 02:17 PM (dTqaU)
Not Dave, but I'll answer in brief:
they have samples that mix registered and likely voters, as well as grossly underestimate the Republican portion of the electorate, as well as feature Republicans who have only a half-hearted approval of the President.
1. Likely voters are the voters now that we're a week out.
2. The GOP will have close to a tie if not a slight edge over Dems in terms of who is voting
3. The President's approval is something like 94%, so when you poll a bunch of the 6%, you get polls that show him losing Wisconsin by 17 points (the biggest margin of defeat for a GOP in decades, if not ever).
Posted by: Shenanigans at October 28, 2020 02:21 PM (ZR7kf)
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Good Point...
No 3 above is something a lot of people do not think about. The Republican sample in these polls tend to skew NeverTrump. I don't think most Trump supporters will answer polls considering their dislike for polls, and the universities and news networks that do them.
Trump supporters will hang up the second they hear this ABC/blah blah poll. Also most people today do not answer strange phone numbers, or are set up to screen them before the phone even rings. Therefore the sample is skewed toward leftists and doofuses.
Posted by: runner at October 28, 2020 02:17 PM (dTqaU)
Not Dave, but I'll answer in brief:
they have samples that mix registered and likely voters, as well as grossly underestimate the Republican portion of the electorate, as well as feature Republicans who have only a half-hearted approval of the President.
1. Likely voters are the voters now that we're a week out.
2. The GOP will have close to a tie if not a slight edge over Dems in terms of who is voting
3. The President's approval is something like 94%, so when you poll a bunch of the 6%, you get polls that show him losing Wisconsin by 17 points (the biggest margin of defeat for a GOP in decades, if not ever).
Posted by: Shenanigans at October 28, 2020 02:21 PM (ZR7kf)
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Good Point...
No 3 above is something a lot of people do not think about. The Republican sample in these polls tend to skew NeverTrump. I don't think most Trump supporters will answer polls considering their dislike for polls, and the universities and news networks that do them.
Trump supporters will hang up the second they hear this ABC/blah blah poll. Also most people today do not answer strange phone numbers, or are set up to screen them before the phone even rings. Therefore the sample is skewed toward leftists and doofuses.
Posted by: William Eaton at October 28, 2020 04:45 PM (cfkTP)
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This ditzy "economics editor" of the U.S. imprint of The Spectator says she is a lifelong Republican now voting for Biden because she cares passionately about Free Trade and also DREAMers and also The Blacks:
https://audioboom.com/posts/7707602-kate-andrews-why-i-switched-to-biden
https://audioboom.com/posts/7707602-kate-andrews-why-i-switched-to-biden
Posted by: Swamposphere at October 28, 2020 04:52 PM (6VCiI)
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Meanwhile at Reason.com between 4 and 6 people (there is much hedging) said they're riding with Biding, because Trade, The Economy, Respect, Feels. None openly admitted to supporting Trump, natch. It's par for the course, #LibertariansSoWoke
https://reason.com/2020/10/12/how-will-reason-staffers-vote-in-2020/
I find it hilarious that Reason has a "Directory of Transportation Policy." Does he drive the company van for Grubhub between getting them takeout for lunch?
https://reason.com/2020/10/12/how-will-reason-staffers-vote-in-2020/
I find it hilarious that Reason has a "Directory of Transportation Policy." Does he drive the company van for Grubhub between getting them takeout for lunch?
Posted by: Swamposphere at October 28, 2020 04:59 PM (6VCiI)
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Voter suppression through polling should be something that's looked in to after this election. So many polling outlets are still pushing that Biden is going to win TX, just like Beto was going to win TX and Hillary was going to win TX. It's Trump's biggest single state haul, so it allows EV maps, with tossups not included, to make it look like Trump has an insurmountable lead while Biden has this all wrapped up.
Posted by: Rbastid at October 28, 2020 06:05 PM (PNagR)
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The law should require that a ten year record of election predictions be posted whenever they cite any poll results. If you can't score at least 50% you should be laughed out of the country. Anything under 80% accuracy should be treated as rank drunks.
Posted by: I am not corey Booker at October 28, 2020 06:10 PM (EcD5Y)
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As a former NV resident I recall Jon Ralston's enduring smugness all too well--especially his suckup to Harry Reid. I am much enjoying watching him sweat.
Posted by: 370H55V at October 28, 2020 08:47 PM (WusEB)
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So are we assuming that all Democrat voters are voting for Biden?
Posted by: TexTaz at October 28, 2020 11:07 PM (y8Viz)
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Adv. prob. is mate in 7:
1. ... , Qe8+; 2. BxQ, Rxe8+; 3. Qe7, Rxe7+; 4. Kd1, Be2+; 5. Ke1, Bg4+;
6. Kf1, Bh3+; 7. Kg1, Re1 mate.
1. ... , Qe8+; 2. BxQ, Rxe8+; 3. Qe7, Rxe7+; 4. Kd1, Be2+; 5. Ke1, Bg4+;
6. Kf1, Bh3+; 7. Kg1, Re1 mate.
Posted by: Hierominous Botch at October 31, 2020 06:45 PM (YqED9)
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Oops! Wrong thread! Oh well, the other's probably already got it solved anyhow...
Posted by: Hierominous Botch at October 31, 2020 06:47 PM (YqED9)
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