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Science Isn't Dead, But it Is Ailing! [Jay Guevara]
Part of the impetus was from a study by Amgen, summarized in Wikipedia as follows:
Out of 49 medical studies from 1990–2003 with more than 1000 citations, 45 claimed that the studied therapy was effective. Out of these studies, 16% were contradicted by subsequent studies, 16% had found stronger effects than did subsequent studies, 44% were replicated, and 24% remained largely unchallenged.[59] The US Food and Drug Administration in 1977–1990 found flaws in 10–20% of medical studies.[60] In a paper published in 2012, Glenn Begley, a biotech consultant working at Amgen, and Lee Ellis, at the University of Texas, argued that only 11% of the pre-clinical cancer studies could be replicated.[61][62]
The requisite data to normalize for the number of papers published in each field are not to hand, but with that caveat these data bear out the impression that the biomedical literature has some real problems. Where, geographically, do these problems come from? Querying the database for papers that raised concerns/issues with results (regardless of whether from physical, life, or medical sciences) yielded these results, again not normalized for the number of papers published in each country:
Without information regarding the number of papers published, it's impossible to draw hard conclusions, but I would imagine that there are probably a lot more papers published in the U.S. than in China, and yet the two are in the same ball park regarding questionable results. Interestingly, the database includes data regarding some of the more dubious areas of "science." For this search I included outright scientific fraud, and found effectively none for any of these fields, although a similar search the physical, biological, and health sciences all returned a number of hits. Once again, the caveat regarding total number of papers published applies, this time probably a forteriori.
My conclusion, subject to the caveat above: the biomedical literature does in fact have grievous problems, and China is punching above its weight in generating lousy results. Last, the Wild West of "scientific research" (climate change, sociology, alternative medicine, and psychology) I suspect may not have fraudulent papers because results in those areas are so squishy that it is impossible to falsify pretty much any assertion made in those literatures.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 26, 2020 07:31 PM (G51Gf)
WEHOA I read the content~~~
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 26, 2020 07:32 PM (G51Gf)
Jeez just got up from a nap, too.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 26, 2020 07:32 PM (G51Gf)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 26, 2020 07:32 PM (q2K0j)
Posted by: Numbuh Two, 2x4 Technology Operative at September 26, 2020 07:32 PM (YWBlw)
Posted by: Numbuh Two, 2x4 Technology Operative at September 26, 2020 07:33 PM (YWBlw)
Posted by: CRAZY DIAMOND at September 26, 2020 07:35 PM (O+AcM)
Okay, now I've REALLY read the content and for the sake of science, we really do need to know the numbers of papers published by each individual country.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 26, 2020 07:35 PM (G51Gf)
Posted by: Bugsy at September 26, 2020 07:36 PM (EgshT)
Posted by: artesian at September 26, 2020 07:36 PM (eXDPU)
Posted by: eastofsuez at September 26, 2020 07:38 PM (PwKhf)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 26, 2020 07:35 PM (G51Gf)
Yep. The problem is that you'd have to further segment the data by the field as well as the country - a daunting task.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 07:39 PM (5G/3e)
Posted by: artesian at September 26, 2020 07:40 PM (eXDPU)
Posted by: artesian at September 26, 2020 07:36 PM (eXDPU)
True. The numbers are actually dodgier than that, because countries (and fields) get conflated with each other in the database, and so double (or multiple) counting is a problem.
For example, suppose a dubious paper in solid state material science is published through a collaboration of US and Chinese scientists. That will count as an American paper, a Chinese paper, a physics paper, and oftentimes a chemistry paper.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 07:42 PM (5G/3e)
Posted by: The Left at September 26, 2020 07:42 PM (EgshT)
Posted by: eastofsuez at September 26, 2020 07:43 PM (PwKhf)
Posted by: artesian at September 26, 2020 07:43 PM (eXDPU)
1.True Science which believes in facts. data and Scientific Method
2. Chicken Little Science which believes in crap models, being fed crap data which generates Apocalyptic results which are hysterically proclaims to get vast amounts of money to stop.
Like the 'Dr' Fausci COVID scam, 'Dr' Mann and his global warming scan are examples of Chicken little science at its finest.
Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at September 26, 2020 07:44 PM (4LbHt)
2. Chicken Little Science which believes in crap models, being fed crap data which generates Apocalyptic results which are hysterically proclaims to get vast amounts of money to stop.
Like the 'Dr' Fausci COVID scam, 'Dr' Mann and his global warming scan are examples of Chicken little science at its finest.
Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at September 26, 2020 07:44 PM (4LbHt)
3. Science perverted to advance the leftist agenda - the subject of a future post.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 07:45 PM (5G/3e)
Posted by: ... at September 26, 2020 07:47 PM (uEbPt)
My little Central Calif town of 25,000, just had our first Defund the Police protest!
Right in front of city hall, which is also the Police station.
About 40 protesters carrying signs and such.
Across the street at the Bowling Alley though, were about 120 Flag Waving Patriots there, telling the protesters to take a hike.
I missed it all, dang it.
We live in interesting times.
Posted by: Duh Lefft at September 26, 2020 07:47 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: 🐧 at September 26, 2020 07:48 PM (C+evo)
just a cursory review of various things i've read since the First! of the year reveals much contradiction.
add in wilful dishonesty (looking @ you Dr Fauxchi) and this is likely to go down as the largest bullshit storm in history.
Posted by: redc1c4 at September 26, 2020 07:48 PM (i6uJ1)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 26, 2020 07:49 PM (lgiXo)
https://tinyurl.com/y3bbwrso
Posted by: fly at September 26, 2020 07:49 PM (k3tBs)
That's the wrong combination. I couldn't open the safe.
Because it doesn't go to a safe, its the Bitcoin hash.
Off to Vegas!
Posted by: 🐧 at September 26, 2020 07:49 PM (C+evo)
Yes! When our intellectual betters tell us "it's the science and it's settled", there's no turning back the clock!
Posted by: A Scold of Karens at September 26, 2020 07:50 PM (EgshT)
Posted by: bluebell at September 26, 2020 07:50 PM (/669Q)
The worshipers of science tell me the thing growing inside a woman is not a human being. Despite the fact that 100% of the ones that make it out are. And that's all you need to know about that.
Posted by: ... at September 26, 2020 07:50 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 26, 2020 07:50 PM (9TdxA)
Posted by: Eromero at September 26, 2020 07:50 PM (XhWtx)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 07:51 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 26, 2020 07:51 PM (lgiXo)
Posted by: Tuna at September 26, 2020 07:51 PM (gLRfa)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 07:51 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 26, 2020 07:51 PM (Ndje9)
1. In pee sigh chiatry, the results for anti-psychotic medications is VERY spotty, at best.
And B. In pee sigh chology, everyone genuflects in the direction of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, and those chuckleheads have gotten really REALLY good at creating studies with large enough sample sizes, to generate just enough significance in the results that they can call it "evidence based" treatment.
None of which translates into a whole lot of real world improvement in mental health.
But insurance companies will pay for both, and so the industry keeps pushing those things that keep the cash rolling in.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 26, 2020 07:52 PM (hku12)
Posted by: PacosMojo at September 26, 2020 07:52 PM (1cUTg)
Me either but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last light.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 26, 2020 07:52 PM (EgshT)
Posted by: f'd at September 26, 2020 07:53 PM (FAxIM)
Yes! When our intellectual betters tell us "it's the science and it's settled", there's no turning back the clock!
Posted by: A Scold of Karens at September 26, 2020 07:50 PM
Da...is working, comrades.
Posted by: Zombie Lysenko at September 26, 2020 07:53 PM (CMB1s)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 26, 2020 07:54 PM (lgiXo)
Posted by: Guesin at September 26, 2020 07:54 PM (oAOpw)
You gather data, trying to prove or disprove said theory.
Lefty Science like Global Warmin, you create a hypothesis, then gather data that supports your theory, and if it does not YOU CHANGE THE DATA.
or also, you get a bunch of crappy data, like everyone who has Covid dies from it, including folks in motorcycle wrecks, or a baby who has a birth defect, and create conclusions which support your political aims.
Posted by: Duh Lefft at September 26, 2020 07:54 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Skip at September 26, 2020 07:55 PM (OjZpE)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 07:55 PM (5G/3e)
Posted by: artesian at September 26, 2020 07:55 PM (eXDPU)
Posted by: Guesin at September 26, 2020 07:54 PM (oAOpw)
Common sense is a contradiction in terms now.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 26, 2020 07:55 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker
Violation of the Prime Directive?
(which the various crews did all the time anyway)
Posted by: Tonypete at September 26, 2020 07:56 PM (Rvt88)
You read these studies, they will tout their findings (when they can), and use weasel words about needing more study to determine whether results are replicable and/or will have lasting effects beyond the scope of the present study.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 26, 2020 07:56 PM (hku12)
This is obvious in political attacks on Truth as seen in Flynn versus Establishment, but happens constantly in Truth versus Global Warming Profiteers.
And profiteers are not only financial criminals, but other mafia control freaks. The global warming mafia goes abroad and collects ??? children or oil or opium ... money is the end result, but control comes in many forms. The Narrative must be served, Then the mafias collect the profits. Liberty is defeated by fake narrative, fake science (e.g. Critical Race Theory) ... Then they collect the money.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 26, 2020 07:56 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Numbuh Two, 2x4 Technology Operative at September 26, 2020 07:32
No time like the present to join
Posted by: Skip at September 26, 2020 07:56 PM (OjZpE)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 26, 2020 07:57 PM (lgiXo)
Do we all want martial law? Do you all know what that could mean?
Posted by: Guesin at September 26, 2020 07:57 PM (oAOpw)
Gov. Reagan: "You're absolutely right. Our generation didn't have those things when we were growing up. We invented them."
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 26, 2020 07:57 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 26, 2020 07:57 PM (lgiXo)
When Newsome issues the executive order.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 07:57 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 26, 2020 07:57 PM (lgiXo)
Posted by: eastofsuez at September 26, 2020 07:58 PM (PwKhf)
Posted by: PacosMojo at September 26, 2020 07:52 PM (1cUTg)
Often the journals will dictate who gets their studies peer reviewed too. It's a dog eat dog world, and work that is done will often be frozen out, not because the findings are not good, but because peer pressure won't let it go to print.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 26, 2020 07:58 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Cheerful Reprobate at September 26, 2020 07:59 PM (FlnFg)
It was chock full of fraud and really poor assumptions in their modeling that no journal would print it.
Sort of like Nigel's modeling of the Wuhan Death Miasma was off by more than a order of magnitude in its fantasy death count.
It wasn't the truly horrible modeling that got him in trouble. It wasn't even the adultery with that cracked pot Marxist activist he was trying to impress.
It was the fact that she violated the Lock Down to engage in some nookie.
THAT was the crime. Not junk science.
Posted by: 🐧 at September 26, 2020 07:59 PM (C+evo)
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I'm gonna stop ya right there.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 26, 2020 07:59 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 26, 2020 07:59 PM (lgiXo)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 26, 2020 07:57 PM
And?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 26, 2020 08:00 PM (CMB1s)
Creationists have been whining about that for decades.
Posted by: 🐧 at September 26, 2020 08:01 PM (C+evo)
Posted by: Zombie Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria at September 26, 2020 08:01 PM (EgshT)
Posted by: PacosMojo at September 26, 2020 07:52 PM (1cUTg)
Exactly. If rubbish is published Proceedings of the Bulgarian Institute of Scatology, no one cares. But in the high visibility journals, another story.
Researchers are reluctant to say that they can't reproduce someone else's results from a high visibility journal, because it invites the conclusion that they just weren't skilled enough to make it work. In synthetic chemistry in particular, like surgery, skilled technique is crucial. Some people can get any reaction to work ("magic hands") and some people can't get any reaction to work. We call the latter group "physical chemists." (kidding)
In chemistry, at least, after a number of people have unsuccessfully tried to reproduce something - and found out about the others, usually at the bar at American Chemical Society meetings - some intrepid soul will publish the hedged warning: "in our hands, this does not work."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 08:01 PM (5G/3e)
Posted by: Eromero at September 26, 2020 08:01 PM (XhWtx)
There are graphs, with numbers. That's math.
I want my fucking money back.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 26, 2020 08:01 PM (3H9h1)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 08:02 PM (QF831)
Posted by: Guesin at September 26, 2020 08:02 PM (oAOpw)
Posted by: Weasel at September 26, 2020 08:02 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: pawn at September 26, 2020 08:02 PM (Cfk8j)
@SenBlumenthal
Replying to @SenBlumenthal
I will refuse to treat this process as legitimate & will not meet with Judge Amy Coney Barrett.
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Illegitimate? Like your Vietnam war stories?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 26, 2020 08:02 PM (+y/Ru)
That sanctimonious douchebag is what we used to call an extremely useful idiot.
Posted by: Zombie Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria at September 26, 2020 08:03 PM (EgshT)
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I'm gonna stop ya right there.
I thought all atheists and many religious Jews didn't believe in an afterlife.
I would be interested in hearing Schumer's soteriology. It would probably sound like someone explaining how to stand a puddle on its edge.
Posted by: 🐧 at September 26, 2020 08:03 PM (C+evo)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 26, 2020 08:03 PM (lgiXo)
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I'm gonna stop ya right there.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 26, 2020 07:59 PM (+y/Ru)
I should think that the voices of the babies she murdered probably have Jesus' ear just now.
Posted by: tcn in AK at September 26, 2020 08:04 PM (qQnCr)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 26, 2020 07:49 PM (lgiXo)
wutz a "thread" ?
Posted by: CRAZY DIAMOND at September 26, 2020 08:04 PM (O+AcM)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 08:04 PM (QF831)
on little cat feet.
It sits looking
over harbor and city
on silent haunches
and then moves on
to sell Global Warming
to the next city full of gullible rubes.
Posted by: Sandy Carlburg. Poet Emiri...Emari...Emere...Top-Notch at September 26, 2020 08:04 PM (Ndje9)
I figured she'd be doing pushups.
Posted by: f'd at September 26, 2020 08:04 PM (FAxIM)
Posted by: klaftern at September 26, 2020 08:04 PM (RuIsu)
Posted by: vmom 2020 - Grow Up and Vote for Trump by Eddie Scarry at September 26, 2020 08:05 PM (nUhF0)
Replying to @SenBlumenthal
I will refuse to treat this process as legitimate & will not meet with Judge Amy Coney Barrett.
You should hold your breath until you get your way.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 26, 2020 08:05 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Zombie Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria at September 26, 2020 08:03 PM (EgshT)
Actually, not all that useful any more. Sort of... annoying, like a tick or a mosquito bite.
Posted by: tcn in AK at September 26, 2020 08:05 PM (qQnCr)
goody
easier to water her evenly
*cracks another tall boy*
Posted by: CRAZY DIAMOND at September 26, 2020 08:05 PM (O+AcM)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 26, 2020 07:56 PM (hku12)
My reaction? "You guys didn't replicate this a number of times before publishing? WTF?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 08:06 PM (5G/3e)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 26, 2020 07:57 PM
And?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
And... the drinking lamp is LIT!
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at September 26, 2020 08:06 PM (FE2ib)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker
Never fear - I understood that.
Posted by: Tonypete at September 26, 2020 08:06 PM (Rvt88)
It's like the Kobayashi Maru thing in Star Trek. You can only win by not playing.
Or cheating like Kirk did
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 26, 2020 08:06 PM (9TdxA)
77 I wish I was sober enough to be coherent
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 26, 2020 08:03 PM (lgiXo)
Have another drink, I still understand you.
Posted by: Cheerful Reprobate at September 26, 2020 08:07 PM (FlnFg)
Does Schumer believe God is pro abortion?
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 26, 2020 08:07 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Felisa Wolfe-Simon, NASA-funded 'scientist' at September 26, 2020 08:07 PM (bPH26)
I figure that kinda ties into the theme of this thread since falsifying results seemed to have been her thing.
Posted by: tcn in AK at September 26, 2020 08:07 PM (qQnCr)
or also, you get a bunch of crappy data, like everyone who has Covid dies from it, including folks in motorcycle wrecks, or a baby who has a birth defect, and create conclusions which support your political aims.
Posted by: Duh Lefft
You left out 2 other methods of biasing 'studies'.
1) Fund the hell out of research that supports your hypothesis.
2) Defund, demonize, and blackball researchers that try to refute your hypothesis with real facts.
Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at September 26, 2020 08:07 PM (gtatv)
There are graphs, with numbers. That's math.
You should've seen the first draft. I thought CBD was gonna plotz.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 08:07 PM (5G/3e)
crucial. Some people can get any reaction to work ("magic hands") and
some people can't get any reaction to work. We call the latter group
"physical chemists." (kidding)
Oh, it's on.
Posted by: pep at September 26, 2020 08:07 PM (v16oJ)
I figured she'd be doing pushups.
I'm not sure that there are graves in Heaven. Sort of defeats the purpose.
I mean, we still have enough available landfill here on Earth, no need to beg Musk to shoot her ashes in to space.
Posted by: 🐧 at September 26, 2020 08:07 PM (C+evo)
Posted by: Guesin at September 26, 2020 08:07 PM (oAOpw)
Posted by: Zombie Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria at September 26, 2020 08:07 PM (EgshT)
Posted by: Cheerful Reprobate at September 26, 2020 08:08 PM (FlnFg)
Trump said he doesn't care.
Posted by: redridinghood at September 26, 2020 08:08 PM (+YYKs)
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at September 26, 2020 08:06 PM (FE2ib)
The sun is certainly over the yard arm.
Posted by: tcn in AK at September 26, 2020 08:08 PM (qQnCr)
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There are graves in Heaven?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 26, 2020 08:08 PM (cGzEU)
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I'm gonna stop ya right there.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 26, 2020 07:59 PM (+y/Ru)
Chuckie has a different vision of Heaven than I do. He's picturing a bunch of corpses in their coffins, like vampires, I guess. They get up for the evening harp concert, I guess. Listen to Jesus and Moses doing their competing solos, and here's poor Ruth, just tryin' to get some sleep.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 26, 2020 08:08 PM (hku12)
Don't know much biology,
Don't know much about the science book,
Don't know much about the French I took.
Posted by: eastofsuez at September 26, 2020 08:09 PM (PwKhf)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 08:04 PM (QF831)
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At your service!
Posted by: Weasel at September 26, 2020 08:09 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 08:07 PM (5G/3e)
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You have to use words of one syllable with him. And ixnay on the athmay.
Posted by: bluebell at September 26, 2020 08:09 PM (/669Q)
Posted by: Skip at September 26, 2020 08:09 PM (OjZpE)
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I'm gonna stop ya right there.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 26, 2020 07:59 PM (+y/Ru)
Grave in heaven...? Sure Schmucky. What ever you say.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 26, 2020 08:09 PM (D+oT3)
Posted by: Ignoramus
I thought Keyser Soze was the training exercise in Star Trek.
Kobayashi Maru was referenced in The Usual Suspects.
Right?
Posted by: Tonypete at September 26, 2020 08:10 PM (Rvt88)
Posted by: Dr. Drew at September 26, 2020 08:10 PM (yGOBq)
{{ducks and runs away}}
Posted by: lin-duh en nui! at September 26, 2020 08:10 PM (UUBmN)
Posted by: Guesin at September 26, 2020 08:10 PM (oAOpw)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 08:10 PM (QF831)
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There are graves in Heaven?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 26, 2020 08:08 PM (cGzEU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnemamE6Pqk
Posted by: BurtTC at September 26, 2020 08:10 PM (hku12)
Posted by: tcn in AK at September 26, 2020 08:10 PM (qQnCr)
Well duh. She's on the rotisserie du coq au satan. Hopefully alternating with getting boiled in Mrs. Satan's acidic snootch.
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at September 26, 2020 08:10 PM (FE2ib)
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She wasn't exactly a believer so...
Posted by: lin-duh en nui! at September 26, 2020 08:10 PM (UUBmN)
Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at September 26, 2020 08:10 PM (gtatv)
Posted by: Two Weeks From Touching My No-No Square at September 26, 2020 08:10 PM (41qPE)
{{ducks and runs away}}
Posted by: lin-duh en nui! at September 26, 2020 08:10 PM (UUBmN)
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Want to guess when things started going downhill?
Posted by: Weasel at September 26, 2020 08:11 PM (MVjcR)
"physical chemists." (kidding)
Oh, it's on.
Posted by: pep at September 26, 2020 08:07 PM (v16oJ)
Synthetic chemists are the guys who wash their hands BEFORE they pee.
(I'm actually in between synthetic and physical chemistry.)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 08:11 PM (5G/3e)
My distrust of every institution and field of study continues...
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 08:11 PM (TdMsT)
Not that Biden is Apollo Creed
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 26, 2020 08:12 PM (9TdxA)
Had to attend to dinner y'all.
Zod, hear us...
430 363 We have not heard more of the Heroic Journey of Sun-in-his-Hair.
The Horde cries out!
Posted by: Miklos likes a good story at September 26, 2020 07:40 PM (QzkSJ)
As was said of Ted Williams by John Updike:
God's don't answer letters!
I tried to entreat Zod to continue with Sun in Hair, but was, sadly, rebuffed months ago!
Posted by: browndog at September 26, 2020 08:07 PM (BgMrQ)
Posted by: browndog at September 26, 2020 08:12 PM (BgMrQ)
They actually should have set up their research so it wasn't falsifiable. It's what all the cool kids are doing in climatology and epidemiology nowadays.
Posted by: Minuteman at September 26, 2020 08:12 PM (EIcEx)
Posted by: Guesin at September 26, 2020 08:12 PM (oAOpw)
Does Schumer believe God is pro abortion?
Lets say that you support the popular theory that aborted babies go to heaven.
God would want everyone to be saved. Under the theory, 100% of babies will be saved.
Those who escape the butcher's hand will statistically speaking, be of the majority who do not go to heaven.
So it would seem butchering babies would be... I'm not going to finish this.
Posted by: 🐧 at September 26, 2020 08:12 PM (C+evo)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 26, 2020 08:13 PM (H5knJ)
Posted by: Weasel
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It's only when the markers are plaid that it constitutes a serious state.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 26, 2020 08:13 PM (cGzEU)
Posted by: jsg at September 26, 2020 08:13 PM (tKQp1)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 26, 2020 07:57 PM (lgiXo)
I would postulate that all gas turbines are in effect wind energy.
Posted by: tbodie at September 26, 2020 08:13 PM (AY/TT)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 26, 2020 08:13 PM (lgiXo)
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 26, 2020 08:14 PM (2DOZq)
https://bit.ly/36bWsnV
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 26, 2020 08:14 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Weasel
Says the man that teaches ballistics, parallax, and zero sighting.
Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at September 26, 2020 08:14 PM (gtatv)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 08:10 PM (QF831)
She's God's problem now.
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 08:15 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: Guesin at September 26, 2020 08:15 PM (oAOpw)
Posted by: Neil deGrasse Tyson at September 26, 2020 08:15 PM (tKQp1)
Posted by: lin-duh en nui! at September 26, 2020 08:15 PM (UUBmN)
All fossil fuels are stored solar energy.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 26, 2020 08:15 PM (q2K0j)
Posted by: Eromero at September 26, 2020 08:15 PM (XhWtx)
improved suggestion, plastic bag over head, tightly secured, till get your way. Then the threat is more serious ... as is outcome. Holding breath till blue is so last century.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 26, 2020 08:15 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 26, 2020 07:50 PM (9TdxA)
Definitely. Jurassic Park was made through the use of models.
'Nuff said.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 08:15 PM (5G/3e)
Posted by: ... at September 26, 2020 08:15 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: eastofsuez at September 26, 2020 08:15 PM (PwKhf)
When I was a kid, if we wanted warp drive, we had to fart in the bathtub.
Posted by: Drink Like Billy Ray Valentine at September 26, 2020 08:15 PM (FE2ib)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 08:16 PM (QF831)
That sounds like a DNC strategery meeting.
Posted by: 🐧 at September 26, 2020 08:17 PM (C+evo)
Posted by: lin-duh en nui! at September 26, 2020 08:15 PM (UUBmN)
Hrothgar was at a rally today. I hope he shows up and tells us about it.
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 08:18 PM (TdMsT)
{{ducks and runs away}}
Posted by: lin-duh en nui! at September 26, 2020 08:10 PM (UUBmN)
-----
Want to guess when things started going downhill?
Posted by: Weasel at September 26, 2020 08:11 PM (MVjcR)
I know when it did, but I'm not publishing my date of birth for all to see.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:18 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 08:19 PM (QF831)
Posted by: Attila the unready at September 26, 2020 08:19 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 26, 2020 08:19 PM (lgiXo)
The consesus among 98% of alchemists and 99% of astrologists means the science is settled!
Posted by: Minuteman at September 26, 2020 08:19 PM (EIcEx)
Posted by: Zombies Uncle Ted Kennedy and Senor Juan McCain at September 26, 2020 08:20 PM (EgshT)
Posted by: Guesin at September 26, 2020 08:10 PM
Oh yes though a Indy car probably is faster if by a little. And the 0 -100mph and back to 0 can't be beat that a F-1 can do.
Posted by: Skip at September 26, 2020 08:20 PM (OjZpE)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 26, 2020 07:56 PM (hku12)
My reaction? "You guys didn't replicate this a number of times before publishing? WTF?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 08:06 PM (5G/3e)
These kinds of studies are always hard to set up. You want to test XYZ treatment protocol, and it's always going to be hard to keep the garbage out, the stuff that's going to mess up the integrity of the study.
So what you often end up with is manipulation of what is being measured, so the results turn out the way they want, without it having much of any practical value.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 26, 2020 08:20 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Drink Like Billy Ray Valentine at September 26, 2020 08:20 PM (FE2ib)
Posted by: lurking grandma at September 26, 2020 08:20 PM (sujqA)
^^
That's a winning message. Hoo boy, he's going to flay Biden alive on Tuesday with this.
Posted by: MJ at September 26, 2020 08:20 PM (gAMkn)
I prefer tightly cinching a zip-tie around their neck. See if the suffocation or the lack of blood to the brain does them in first.
Posted by: 🐧 at September 26, 2020 08:20 PM (C+evo)
That is so true, with rare exceptions.
But we need physical chemists to make the synthetic chemists accept spectral data and mechanisms.
The deuterated compound kinetics guys and gals are solid, however.
The ideal solution is co-authoring, if the test molecule is complex.
An example of that is when the X-Ray guys got a shit-ton of papers with their name on them.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 08:21 PM (u82oZ)
@SenBlumenthal
Replying to @SenBlumenthal
I will refuse to treat this process as legitimate will not meet with Judge Amy Coney Barrett.
DaNang Dick must be confused. He thought they said she was VC, but she's RC.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 26, 2020 08:21 PM (D+oT3)
(I'm actually in between synthetic and physical chemistry.)
When I used to tell non chemists that I was a chemist, I'd also say that I didn't have multicolored flasks and bunsen burners in my lab. They'd then ask me to explain what I did. It usually did not go well.
Posted by: pep at September 26, 2020 08:22 PM (v16oJ)
Actually, a local teen here died from that not long ago. Tragic.
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at September 26, 2020 08:22 PM (FE2ib)
Posted by: illiniwek at September 26, 2020 08:22 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: eastofsuez at September 26, 2020 08:22 PM (PwKhf)
Posted by: Guesin at September 26, 2020 08:23 PM (oAOpw)
You had a bathtub?? We had to fart in a can. Sounded like a Honda.
Posted by: f'd at September 26, 2020 08:23 PM (FAxIM)
Posted by: ... at September 26, 2020 08:23 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: Diogenes at September 26, 2020 08:23 PM (axyOa)
Private companies, charities, and government fund research... none of whom are neutral about the outcome.
That means that the bias begins before the research does.
Posted by: MarkY at September 26, 2020 08:24 PM (Nnuaj)
Posted by: CRAZY DIAMOND at September 26, 2020 07:35 PM (O+AcM)
The new ones yes. But we get to keep Tom Baker.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 26, 2020 08:24 PM (D+oT3)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 08:24 PM (QF831)
CNN's live shot at the Supreme Court is crashed by people who yelled "CNN is fake news!"
https://tinyurl.com/y4urd5st
Hahahahahaha!
Posted by: Tami at September 26, 2020 08:24 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 26, 2020 08:24 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 26, 2020 08:19 PM (lgiXo)
Dahlin!
Can you get yourself a cup of coffee?
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 08:24 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: sneering fulgashi at September 26, 2020 08:24 PM (D4kFO)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 26, 2020 08:13 PM (H5knJ)
Often profoundly ill informed. Somebody does a study on whether an apple a day keeps the doctor away, and after twenty years of a longitudinal study with 10,000 participants, they find that apple eaters don't, in fact stay away from doctors more than the non-apple eaters. But the researchers note that the aggregate weight of the apple eaters is .002 lbs higher than the non-applers, and the media proclaims:
EATING APPLES CAUSES OBESITY!!!!!
Posted by: BurtTC at September 26, 2020 08:25 PM (hku12)
Posted by: NaCly Dog
We used to laugh at the theory guys. They'd publish a paper, figure out that it was all wrong, then publish a second paper saying why the first one was now inoperable. A retraction counts in your h-index.
Posted by: pep at September 26, 2020 08:25 PM (v16oJ)
I'm going to enjoy all of the studies proclaiming that all of the non-pharmaceutical interventions imposed on western civilization were spectacularly successful.
Up until 2020, studies were unanimous in saying that there is no evidence that NPI is effective. I'm not sure how one would even conduct a test that could produce reliable results.
I'm sure everything post-CoViD will gratuitously and categorically reject the previous four decades of research.
Posted by: 🐧 at September 26, 2020 08:25 PM (C+evo)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 26, 2020 08:19 PM (lgiXo)
Dahlin!
Can you get yourself a cup of coffee?
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 08:24 PM (TdMsT)
Then he can be jittery and still drunk.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:26 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Jen the original at September 26, 2020 08:26 PM (0lYmX)
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at September 26, 2020 08:26 PM (FE2ib)
Posted by: Guesin at September 26, 2020 08:26 PM (oAOpw)
Posted by: sneering fulgashi at September 26, 2020 08:26 PM (D4kFO)
Posted by: lin-duh en nui!
Well, now that he's eased off on earning Peace Prizes some of his times been freed up.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 26, 2020 08:26 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 26, 2020 08:27 PM (lgiXo)
Dick Blumenthal is not only stupid and corrupt, he is an ugly motherfucker to boot.
True, but he DOES have the microwilly going for him.
Posted by: pep at September 26, 2020 08:27 PM (v16oJ)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 26, 2020 08:20 PM (hku12)
The intellectually honest way to do research is to establish criteria for excluding weird, funky, dubious, outlying results beforehand, not after the fact.
Such results happen occasionally to everyone. There could be a line transient when someone turned on a big-ass motor or something that produces a spike in an instrument, say. Is it real? Before bothering to explain it, research 101 says "can you reproduce it?" If not, pffft.
Or a reaction works ... once. But can never be made to work again. One distinguished chemist related the story of such a reaction, where extensive - and I mean extensive - work established that ONE bottle of a critical reagent had a small amount of an impurity, and that THAT was what led to the catalytic activity.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 08:27 PM (5G/3e)
♪ ♫ Good evening! ♫ ♬
Deplorable Jay Guevara is an absolutely stellar addition to your science team. He did science and office politics and international relations.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 08:27 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 26, 2020 08:27 PM (lgiXo)
Quit apologizing and just roll with it.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:27 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Eromero at September 26, 2020 08:28 PM (XhWtx)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 26, 2020 08:28 PM (3H9h1)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 26, 2020 08:28 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 26, 2020 08:27 PM (lgiXo)
It's ok. Just don't puke on our shoes.
Posted by: April, Freedom Now! at September 26, 2020 08:28 PM (OX9vb)
It was a recipe for Type 2 diabetes, and was promoted relentlessly for years by the CDC.
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 08:28 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: Attila the unready at September 26, 2020 08:29 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 08:29 PM (QF831)
Posted by: NaCly Dog
Yep. This was a way to juice your publication record, although at this juncture, I would argue that X-ray crystallography is now in the same class with elemental analysis.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 08:29 PM (5G/3e)
Then pretend that so they can later say she's not legit because they did not participate.
Also expecting they will refuse to appear for a quorum.
Posted by: blaster at September 26, 2020 08:30 PM (ZfRYq)
It was a recipe for Type 2 diabetes, and was promoted relentlessly for years by the CDC.
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 08:28 PM (TdMsT)
I thought the USDA was the food pyramid agency.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:30 PM (NWiLs)
Manchin: I cannot support a process that risks further division of the American people at a time when we desperately need to come together. I will not vote to confirm Judge Coney Barrett or any Supreme Court nominee before Election Day on November 3rd.
Posted by: Tami at September 26, 2020 08:30 PM (cF8AT)
Then he can be jittery and still drunk.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:26 PM (NWiLs
But what should you do when you've had too much?
Wait...
Don't answer that.
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 08:30 PM (TdMsT)
Chemistry is just a subspecialty of physics.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
Depends. I've had physicists repeatedly ask me to do some chemistry for them, even though I'm not a synthetic guy. It had scary HF in it, and I think they were afraid it would Indiana Jones their faces.
Posted by: pep at September 26, 2020 08:30 PM (v16oJ)
Posted by: A Scientist at September 26, 2020 08:30 PM (EgshT)
Posted by: Guesin at September 26, 2020 08:30 PM (oAOpw)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 26, 2020 08:30 PM (ZjU14)
https://tinyurl.com/yywpsrj4
Posted by: redridinghood at September 26, 2020 08:31 PM (+YYKs)
Then he can be jittery and still drunk.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:26 PM (NWiLs
But what should you do when you've had too much?
Wait...
Don't answer that.
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 08:30 PM (TdMsT)
I have no idea what you could be getting at.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:31 PM (NWiLs)
https://tinyurl.com/y3bbwrso
Posted by: fly at September 26, 2020 07:49 PM (k3tBs)
I don't care what drugs they have him on I can't see him getting through a debate. Unless Christine Wallace is going to ask and answer the questions for him.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 26, 2020 08:31 PM (D+oT3)
Posted by: pep at September 26, 2020 08:31 PM (v16oJ)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 26, 2020 08:28 PM (DMUuz)
Um, no. Physicists think about forces. Chemists think about structures. Chemists generally know more physics than physicists do chemistry, because of the extensive use of physical methods in chemistry.
How many physicists have any idea what the structure is of, say, aspirin? Precious few, in my experience.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 08:31 PM (5G/3e)
I knew a theory guy well. He was sound. Loved strained organic frameworks.
Astrophysicists are the one to worry about. Every issue on New Scientist that had a new and contradictory theory of the how the universe works. I quit an entertaining journal because of them.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 08:32 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Emmie at September 26, 2020 08:32 PM (4JM5Y)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 08:32 PM (QF831)
I have seldom in my own life seen such staggering levels of incompetence.
Downright refusal to do their one stupid job, sit your ass in a chair and vote.
I would set them on fire. Slowly at first.
In effigy, of course.
Posted by: Attila the unready at September 26, 2020 08:32 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:32 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker '
I'm trying to catch up dude. Emptied the rest of a bottle of rum in my Coke. Everybody must get dronl !
Posted by: f'd at September 26, 2020 08:33 PM (FAxIM)
-
That'll bring the country together!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 26, 2020 08:33 PM (+y/Ru)
According to REM, you should hold on.
Posted by: pep at September 26, 2020 08:31 PM (v16oJ)
I can't stop laughing.
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 08:33 PM (TdMsT)
It is also about legal and financial incentives/disincentives.
The climate change and similar lobbies want money and power through political, not market means.
This conveys both more money based on less actual knowledge than the private sector could ever generate, with no effective liability.
And power. Also power.
Posted by: Prototype Miklos at September 26, 2020 08:33 PM (QzkSJ)
I was wondering where you would even find two people in Washington DC that would not worship CNN.
Then I remembered that Franklin Graham had a massive prayer march today. Naturally, with "55,000" non-rioters present - the Enemedia couldn't possibly recognize it.
Posted by: 🐧 at September 26, 2020 08:33 PM (C+evo)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 08:33 PM (QF831)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 26, 2020 08:20 PM (hku12)
The intellectually honest way to do research is to establish criteria for excluding weird, funky, dubious, outlying results beforehand, not after the fact.
Such results happen occasionally to everyone. There could be a line transient when someone turned on a big-ass motor or something that produces a spike in an instrument, say. Is it real? Before bothering to explain it, research 101 says "can you reproduce it?" If not, pffft.
Or a reaction works ... once. But can never be made to work again. One distinguished chemist related the story of such a reaction, where extensive - and I mean extensive - work established that ONE bottle of a critical reagent had a small amount of an impurity, and that THAT was what led to the catalytic activity.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 08:27 PM (5G/3e)
Just another reason why "hard science" folks view social science as junk.
Here's a practical example. Suppose you have a treatment protocol that calls for 6 weeks of some therapeutic model, compared to a control group that has 6 weeks of "treatment as usual."
Who is doing the treatment? How is it even POSSIBLE to control for some bias among the treatment providers, so when you get done, you can play games with saying how you controlled for this variable and that, but really, you can't.
And you can't redo these studies over and over, in part because the people you studied the first time around are NOT the same people you studied the second. And your research team aren't the same people either, even if they are, indeed, the same people. So.....
Posted by: BurtTC at September 26, 2020 08:34 PM (hku12)
That's one of their best.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 26, 2020 08:34 PM (Ndje9)
Watch as the redneck commits political suicide.
And I'm partial to WV having lived there for years. But this mutherfucker needs to go.
Q the banjo music.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 26, 2020 08:34 PM (3H9h1)
Posted by: A Scientist
Epoch Times (paper version) had a survey last week. Approx. 35 people asked, with names and pics, I would say maybe 6 said yes to the vaccine. Heh.
Posted by: Infidel at September 26, 2020 08:34 PM (R4aZ2)
Posted by: pep at September 26, 2020 08:30 PM (v16oJ)
HF is no biggie. Wash glassware with dilute HF and be amazed at how clean it comes out.
Now F2, or ClF3, another story entirely.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 08:34 PM (5G/3e)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker '
I'm trying to catch up dude. Emptied the rest of a bottle of rum in my Coke. Everybody must get dronl !
Posted by: f'd at September 26, 2020 08:33 PM (FAxIM)
They'll dronl you when you're trying to be so good
They'll dronl you just like they said they would
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:34 PM (NWiLs)
before switching out of my chemistry major, I learned that using a nickel plated tongs to hold a crucible for a test, where a test reagent could bubble up onto the tongs ... could result in a false Nickel result, (and harm one's grade)
Posted by: illiniwek at September 26, 2020 08:34 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: pep at September 26, 2020 08:31 PM (v16oJ)
Alive N Kickin concurs.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 26, 2020 08:35 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: zombie Janice Joplin at September 26, 2020 08:35 PM (FAxIM)
He's been writing on this subject for awhile.
Posted by: Lirio100 at September 26, 2020 08:35 PM (JK7Jw)
Agree. X-ray crystallography, NMR analysis and elemental analysis are all just part of the supplemental experimental section these days.
Important, but not ground breaking.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 08:35 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Guesin at September 26, 2020 08:35 PM (oAOpw)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 08:33 PM (QF831)
Thank you; I'll keep an eye out.
Posted by: Emmie at September 26, 2020 08:36 PM (4JM5Y)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 08:33 PM (QF831)
Thank you; I'll keep an eye out.
Posted by: Emmie at September 26, 2020 08:36 PM (4JM5Y)
How gruesome.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:36 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: That guy who always says... at September 26, 2020 08:36 PM (EgshT)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 26, 2020 08:37 PM (ZjU14)
Posted by: Eromero at September 26, 2020 08:37 PM (XhWtx)
Posted by: Guesin at September 26, 2020 08:37 PM (oAOpw)
Posted by: f'd
Yer supposed to put the peanuts in the RC Cola BEFORE you add the rum.
Y'all people.
Posted by: Miklos on the porch, enjoying this cool night air at September 26, 2020 08:37 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:30 PM (NWiLs)
The USDA produced the pyramid to replace the old four food groups.
But the program arm of the CDC promoted it via the grant process.
I remember it well. I was an administrator at a county health department at the time.
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 08:37 PM (TdMsT)
McGyver, SMFH
Posted by: McGyver at September 26, 2020 08:37 PM (rJ1YP)
How long have you had this post in the CoB reserve tank? It is timeless in applicability.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 08:38 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at September 26, 2020 08:38 PM (nFRLh)
Posted by: DB- just DB. at September 26, 2020 08:38 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: eastofsuez at September 26, 2020 08:38 PM (PwKhf)
The American people aren't divided.
Its the damned Communists, Marxists and their enablers in academia, media and government who are inventing all of the division and strife.
Manchin is too stupid, hatefilled and corrupt to be considered a member of civil society.
Posted by: 🐧 at September 26, 2020 08:38 PM (C+evo)
{{ducks and runs away}}
Posted by: lin-duh en nui! at September 26, 2020 08:10 PM (UUBmN)
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Want to guess when things started going downhill?
Posted by: Weasel at September 26, 2020 08:11 PM (MVjcR)
I know when it did, but I'm not publishing my date of birth for all to see.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:18 PM (NWiLs)
September 26 1991, right?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 26, 2020 08:38 PM (/kh7m)
The worshipers of science tell me the thing growing inside a woman is not a human being. Despite the fact that 100% of the ones that make it out are.
-------------
"When is your fetus due?" said no one ever.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 26, 2020 08:38 PM (mht8P)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 08:38 PM (QF831)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory
Though that was NGU's job.
Posted by: Miklos, temporarily at September 26, 2020 08:38 PM (QzkSJ)
But the program arm of the CDC promoted it via the grant process.
I remember it well. I was an administrator at a county health department at the time.
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 08:37 PM (TdMsT)
Learn something new every day! Like the fact you were a bureaucrat once!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:39 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: at September 26, 2020 08:33 PM (C+evo)
I saw a photo of the crowd. Sure looked like quite a bit more than 55,000, more like 550,000. Is that why you put the number in quotes?
Posted by: Emmie at September 26, 2020 08:39 PM (4JM5Y)
Posted by: sneering fulgashi at September 26, 2020 08:39 PM (D4kFO)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 26, 2020 08:19 PM (lgiXo)
You can do this!
Posted by: tbodie at September 26, 2020 08:39 PM (AY/TT)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 26, 2020 08:40 PM (ZjU14)
Because YOU NEVER WASH YOUR FRICKIN' TEST TUBES!
Posted by: Minuteman at September 26, 2020 08:40 PM (EIcEx)
Posted by: MichiCanuck at September 26, 2020 08:40 PM (JYBFo)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:18 PM (NWiLs)
September 26 1991, right?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 26, 2020 08:38 PM (/kh7m)
Uh...no.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:41 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 26, 2020 08:19 PM (lgiXo)
I have problems shitting sober.
Posted by: Jerry Nadler at September 26, 2020 08:41 PM (ZjU14)
Those idiots who have him labeled, they are just so damn wrong. He's none of the things the left and the media (BIRM) accuse him of being:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Db77ROmM7Fg
Posted by: BurtTC at September 26, 2020 08:41 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Guesin at September 26, 2020 08:41 PM (oAOpw)
pep, I sentence you to listen to, or better yet, watch Shiny Happy People.
Posted by: Eromero
Wow, that really blows.
Posted by: pep at September 26, 2020 08:42 PM (v16oJ)
Posted by: blaster at September 26, 2020 08:42 PM (ZfRYq)
Posted by: Eromero at September 26, 2020 08:42 PM (XhWtx)
Posted by: ERF at September 26, 2020 08:42 PM (NxG7K)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 08:38 PM (QF831)
Yeah, it's about time she started expressing some gratitude.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:42 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 08:42 PM (QF831)
Posted by: Emmie at September 26, 2020 08:42 PM (4JM5Y)
Good for you. An in our hands statement takes too long. Negative results are important too.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 08:42 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: illiniwek at September 26, 2020 08:34 PM (Cus5s)
As an undergraduate I had to analyze various samples for various analytes, and being graded on how close you were to the correct analysis.
The point was not intellectual, but rather a matter of technique. We quickly learned that touching, say, a crucible (after it had cooled, of course) transferred several milligrams of skin oil to it, enough to throw off the analysis from an "A" to a "C."
By the same token, how do you know that something has dried entirely? "It looks dry to me." No. Weigh it, put it back in the oven for a while, then take it and reweigh it. Did you get the same weight?
It taught us to be careful experimentally, and to think critically while working in the lab.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 08:42 PM (5G/3e)
In synthetic chemistry, my rule of thumb was take the published yield and divide by three. That's the yield you could expect, at least the first time out.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 26, 2020 08:43 PM (mht8P)
I still think he needs to go. The issue isn't that Mountaineers are stupid. They're not given a better choice. That's by design.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 26, 2020 08:43 PM (3H9h1)
Posted by: Emmie at September 26, 2020 08:36 PM (4JM5Y)
How gruesome.
Posted by: Insomniac
Just looking for a role in the next super cool Dan Crenshaw ad.
Posted by: Miklosian Marketing (Political) SA de CV at September 26, 2020 08:43 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Guesin at September 26, 2020 08:43 PM (oAOpw)
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 26, 2020 08:44 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at September 26, 2020 08:44 PM (bTT9D)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 26, 2020 08:44 PM (ZjU14)
Yes. The Enemedia is using reverse CoViD accounting.
Posted by: 🐧 at September 26, 2020 08:45 PM (C+evo)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE
Posted by: Blue haired Miklosa from HR at September 26, 2020 08:45 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 26, 2020 08:19 PM (lgiXo)
Is BN channeling Beckoning Chasm?
Posted by: browndog at September 26, 2020 08:45 PM (BgMrQ)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 08:45 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 08:45 PM (QF831)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:42 PM (NWiLs
I'm thankful for you, Insom.
Posted by: Emmie at September 26, 2020 08:45 PM (4JM5Y)
It taught us to be careful experimentally, and to think critically while working in the lab.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 08:42 PM (5G/3e)
That's just white fragility in action.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:46 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: MichiCanuck at September 26, 2020 08:40 PM (JYBFo)
It does talk, but I think the major factor is that in the life sciences one can always hide behind "biological variation." In chemistry, being proven wrong is not a career enhancer. In life sciences, it's no biggie. "You got X, I got not X. Isn't Nature grand?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 08:46 PM (5G/3e)
Posted by: Michelle Fields at September 26, 2020 08:46 PM (EgshT)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 26, 2020 08:46 PM (1a2of)
If we're judging SCOTUS nominees by such facile measures, ACB has more black kids than RBG had black clerks.
(That's Mollie's husband)
Posted by: Tami at September 26, 2020 08:46 PM (cF8AT)
I have advocated for this before -- publish the name of those who reviewed each paper published in peer reviewed journals. The incestuous stovepiping of reviewers and their ties to any paper's authors would be illuminating.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 26, 2020 08:46 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Guesin at September 26, 2020 08:46 PM (oAOpw)
Qual analytical labs were designed to humble first, then strengthen your techniques.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 08:46 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Eromero at September 26, 2020 08:46 PM (XhWtx)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:42 PM (NWiLs
I'm thankful for you, Insom.
Posted by: Emmie at September 26, 2020 08:45 PM (4JM5Y)
Dammit, that was sweet and disarming and zapped my smartass circuit momentarily. Must reboot...
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:47 PM (NWiLs)
one can always hide behind "biological variation." In chemistry, being
proven wrong is not a career enhancer. In life sciences, it's no biggie.
"You got X, I got not X. Isn't Nature grand?"
True, but that only goes so far. "The drug had 43% efficacy" vs. "she turned me into a newt" is hard to paper over.
Posted by: pep at September 26, 2020 08:47 PM (v16oJ)
Posted by: 80's music fan at September 26, 2020 08:48 PM (glGDV)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 26, 2020 08:43 PM (mht8P)
Yields are notoriously dodgy. In fairness, the first couple times you run a reaction you are figuring how to maximize yields. But the stories of synthetic chemistry gurus "negotiating" yields with their grad students are legion.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 08:48 PM (5G/3e)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 07:45 PM (5G/3e)
"Climate Science", in a nutshell.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 26, 2020 08:48 PM (1a2of)
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 26, 2020 08:48 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Emmie at September 26, 2020 08:42 PM (4JM5Y)
Well of course!!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 26, 2020 08:49 PM (/kh7m)
Science: Maybe the virus can be spread through frozen food.
Science: This paper mask can stop a virus in a general population of 7 billion.
Science: China has reported only 4k deaths from the virus and that number is so legit you don't even know.
Conclusion:
Science is bullshit.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 26, 2020 08:49 PM (KQ7QA)
1) Gather dodgy data
2) Apply dodgy statistics
3) Write up analysis using thesaurus
4) Publish in pay for play scientific journal
5) Grant Gold!
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at September 26, 2020 08:49 PM (e1mEI)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 08:31 PM
Acetysalicylic acid (C9H8O4)? We synthesized it starting with caffeine in high school chemistry.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 26, 2020 08:49 PM (DMUuz)
Recent example of this concept: COVID-19 researchers looking for a 'cure' tried substance 'z' on a dozen or so critical patients. Only 89.5% of those patients dies vs. 92.3% of all patients using 'x'. Therefore 'z' is a cure even if it only costs 100x what 'x' does.
Which segues into another aspect rarely considered in research - incremental cost-benefit analysis. You can use dollars of duck feathers, it does not matter, for the metric here.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 26, 2020 08:49 PM (/Dgcm)
Posted by: Miklosian Marketing (Political) SA de CV at September 26, 2020 08:43 PM (QzkSJ
Yeah. About that. Apparently they want me to run for office if I'm going to be in the ad.
Uh, no thanks.
Posted by: Emmie at September 26, 2020 08:50 PM (4JM5Y)
Posted by: pep at September 26, 2020 08:47 PM (v16oJ)
How about 43% of test subjects who received the drug stated they believed they had been turned into newts when they had previously reported no newt-like characteristics prior to beginning the trial
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:50 PM (NWiLs)
reviewed each paper published in peer reviewed journals. The incestuous
stovepiping of reviewers and their ties to any paper's authors would be
illuminating.
I was always incredulous that some journals, including some big ones, asked you to recommend reviewers. Well, let's see, there's my mum, that guy that owes me money...
Posted by: pep at September 26, 2020 08:50 PM (v16oJ)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 08:42 PM (QF831)
{{{Ben Had}}}
Excellent advice!
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 08:50 PM (TdMsT)
No donations are accepted , only because this is my selfish chance to give back to the Horde.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 08:50 PM (QF831)
Posted by: Emmie
It's Insom's Daily Affirmations that keep me going.
Posted by: Miklos "Stuart" Smalley at September 26, 2020 08:50 PM (QzkSJ)
My method for getting rid of an earworm is to think of another song. Is there a song in particular that you could use?
Does anyone else have a favorite earworm eradication song? Mine is "Pojama People".
Posted by: zombie Janice Joplin at September 26, 2020 08:51 PM (FAxIM)
The Science is settled!
Posted by: Attila the unready at September 26, 2020 08:51 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: Emmie at September 26, 2020 08:42 PM
Exhibit A: Lone Star Beer
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 26, 2020 08:51 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 26, 2020 08:51 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Emmie at September 26, 2020 08:51 PM (4JM5Y)
Posted by: Ben Had
Crude language.
Instead of "fuck" shoulda said "pork".
Posted by: Miklos, speaking colloquially at September 26, 2020 08:51 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Miklos "Stuart" Smalley at September 26, 2020 08:50 PM (QzkSJ)
I'm still working on "good enough" and "smart enough." Some people report liking me but it could all just be a ruse or a long con of some kind. I do try to come up with a daily appreciation though.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:52 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 26, 2020 08:27 PM (lgiXo)
This is the moron version of covfefe
Posted by: ... at September 26, 2020 08:52 PM (IEsP8)
yes, as with politics, religion, life -- ability to apply theory is critical ... wrong conclusions are easy. Some cling to their bad results for a lifetime. (critical race theory has been proven ... via bad technique and malicious funding to profit from bad "poli-science")
Posted by: illiniwek at September 26, 2020 08:52 PM (Cus5s)
You had a bathtub?? We had to fart in a can. Sounded like a Honda.
Posted by: f'd at September 26, 2020 08:23 PM (FAxIM)
Asshole.
Posted by: Prince Albert at September 26, 2020 08:52 PM (bTT9D)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 08:52 PM (QF831)
WATCH: Joe Biden suddenly brings up a person name "John" and accuses him of avoiding what needs to be done
https://tinyurl.com/yybky4hz
Posted by: Tami at September 26, 2020 08:52 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Guesin at September 26, 2020 08:52 PM (oAOpw)
Posted by: ... at September 26, 2020 08:52 PM (IEsP8)
Posted by: zombie Janice Joplin at September 26, 2020 08:51 PM (FAxIM)
America. Fuck Yeah.
Posted by: jsg at September 26, 2020 08:53 PM (vR+Jl)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 26, 2020 08:53 PM (DMUuz)
I had a false nickle result once. I took a wooden nickel.
Posted by: That guy who always says...
You would have been better off with a round TUIT.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 26, 2020 08:53 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 26, 2020 08:46 PM (pNxlR)
Yeah, but the problem is that an honest review can lead to feuds. The crucial piece here is having an effective and clued-in associate editor who knows who is in bed with whom, and who despises whom, and selects reviewers accordingly.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 08:53 PM (5G/3e)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:53 PM (NWiLs)
Exactly! Since the rise of CRT, Science isn't Real Science Is Racist!
They need to update their signs, that Nazi slogan "Science is Real" conflicts with their BLM signs.
I don't know, for the sake of solidarity, whether to stand out front and proudly sing German U-Boat songs or burn their house down.
Posted by: 🐧 at September 26, 2020 08:53 PM (C+evo)
Posted by: ... at September 26, 2020 08:52 PM (IEsP
Seems I have value after all.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:54 PM (NWiLs)
There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact."-- Life on the Mississippi (1883)
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 26, 2020 08:54 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 26, 2020 08:54 PM (ZjU14)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:55 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Emmie at September 26, 2020 08:55 PM (4JM5Y)
What happens if there is an international crisis, and President Joe Biden is awakened for that 3 PM phone call?
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 26, 2020 08:55 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Attila the unready at September 26, 2020 08:55 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 08:55 PM (u82oZ)
Cold fusion is throwing shade its way.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 26, 2020 08:51 PM (pNxlR)
You know, I have sympathy for those guys. I don't believe that they were running a scam, but rather were hosed by an experimental quirk and, having married their hypotheses, could not assess with sufficient criticality (oblique cold fusion reference).
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 08:56 PM (5G/3e)
Posted by: Javems at September 26, 2020 08:56 PM (ofIwF)
Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at September 26, 2020 08:56 PM (cGkC+)
Trying to hide their terror, and silently pleading with him telepathically to find his way back.
As their jaws clench and their eyes widen, they nod knowingly and attempt to maintain a smile as they can see Four More Years of Trump flashing before their pathetic eyes. Glorious.
Posted by: ... at September 26, 2020 08:56 PM (IEsP8)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 08:57 PM (QF831)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 26, 2020 08:55 PM (I2/tG)
Is that yours? That is worthy of a Trump ad, my friend.
Posted by: ... at September 26, 2020 08:57 PM (IEsP8)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 08:55 PM (u82oZ)
You're going to sell weed?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:57 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 26, 2020 08:57 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Emmie
You had doubts?
Posted by: Infidel at September 26, 2020 08:57 PM (R4aZ2)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 08:58 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Miklos, not that there's anything wrong with that at September 26, 2020 08:58 PM (QzkSJ)
Alternate Title: The Rise of Lysenkoism.
Posted by: 🐧 at September 26, 2020 08:58 PM (C+evo)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 08:55 PM (u82oZ)
You're going to sell weed?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:57 PM (NWiLs)
JackStraw is giving him a cut of the action.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 26, 2020 08:58 PM (ZjU14)
I'm not sure how on earth you can replicate psychological studies in any manner, no matter how carefully they were done
Imagine trying to get reproducible results from a Rorschach test of Joe Biden.
Posted by: pep at September 26, 2020 08:58 PM (v16oJ)
No. Legal stuff. Grows on my burden of debt. It has uses. But not a drug.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 08:59 PM (u82oZ)
You're going to sell weed?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:57 PM (NWiLs)
JackStraw ain't gonna like you horning in on his turf.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 26, 2020 08:59 PM (pNxlR)
I'm not sure how on earth you can replicate psychological studies in any manner, no matter how carefully they were done
You gonna eat that?
Posted by: Pavlov's Zombie Doggeh at September 26, 2020 09:00 PM (bTT9D)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 08:55 PM (u82oZ)
Very cool {{{Salty Dog}}}
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 09:00 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:57 PM (NWiLs)
You jest, but I was recently asked to review a business proposal to make synthetic THC and CBD (not Charlie Brown) for pharmaceutical (i.e., legal) use.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 09:00 PM (5G/3e)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 08:59 PM (u82oZ)
*scratches head*
Is it bigger than a breadbox?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 09:00 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 26, 2020 08:54 PM
I rate this statement: True.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 26, 2020 09:00 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 26, 2020 09:00 PM (Ndje9)
we all noticed that, but didn't want to embarrass you by pointing it out.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 26, 2020 09:00 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 09:01 PM (QF831)
He's smart, not a dumb prevert like they say, but smart.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 26, 2020 09:01 PM (Z+IKu)
Mr. Jack Straw may need some of my product. But I despise those that avoid life by being stoners.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 09:01 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Mike "Miklos" Lindell at September 26, 2020 09:01 PM (QzkSJ)
"His visits are scarcely publicized beforehand, logistical details are closely held and his event venues serve as much as video studios as places of gathering. Barely anyone is allowed near the candidate." Social-distancing is virtuous, but surely his events could be hyped locally to make sure the public's aware that he's there even if physical attendance is limited. Why aren't they?
Gosh AP, why wouldn't Biden's staff be publicizing Biden's "appearances" in advance?
Perhaps the fact that Biden's staff is forbidding local media from attending on the occasions when he does show up is a clue.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 26, 2020 09:02 PM (I2/tG)
I'm diapered, rested and ready!
Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby at September 26, 2020 09:02 PM (EgshT)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 09:02 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 09:00 PM (5G/3e)
Oh that doesn't surprise me at all. Hasn't there been done kind of synthetic or extractive of THC for pharmaceutical use for awhile? Marinol or something like that?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 09:02 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: DB- just DB. at September 26, 2020 09:02 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: Mr. Miklos Spicoli at September 26, 2020 09:02 PM (QzkSJ)
*and ringing*
*still ringing*
Hold up......
.
.
.
.
*yep still ringing*
Jill Biden : Uhhhh......Hello ?
Voice : *sounds*
Jill : He's sleeping in the sofa.
Voice : *garbled question*
Jill : No, IN the sofa, it's a sleeper sofa.
Voice : *garbled sounds*
Jill : Yeah, maybe call them.
*click*
Posted by: jsg at September 26, 2020 09:02 PM (vR+Jl)
When I was in grad school, we submitted a paper and had to retract it before the review process began. X-ray crystallography showed a unique and unprecedented structural feature, but the hydride atom we thought was there was just a fortuitous convergence of electron density that refined perfectly as such.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 26, 2020 09:02 PM (mht8P)
Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at September 26, 2020 08:56 PM (cGkC+)
In the dramatic arts department. Duh.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 09:03 PM (5G/3e)
I mean, after the Milgram Experiment, the only way to beat that is with Zimbardo's Stanford Prison Experiment. Right?
Then scientists found a way to be even more psychotic, sadistic, cruel and insulting to science: It is the CoViD-1984 Lock Down Experiment.
Posted by: 🐧 at September 26, 2020 09:03 PM (C+evo)
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- current occupation: cat furniture at September 26, 2020 09:03 PM (yHHWj)
Posted by: Zombie Trofim Denisovich Lysenko! at September 26, 2020 09:03 PM (I2/tG)
We need more BladeRunner units.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at September 26, 2020 09:03 PM (3P/5p)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:55 PM
Shiner Bock >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Lone Star >>> Pearl
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 26, 2020 09:03 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Eromero at September 26, 2020 09:03 PM (XhWtx)
AllahPundit is confused about Biden:
"His visits are scarcely publicized beforehand, logistical
details are closely held and his event venues serve as much as video
studios as places of gathering. Barely anyone is allowed near the
candidate." Social-distancing is virtuous, but surely his events could
be hyped locally to make sure the public's aware that he's there even if
physical attendance is limited. Why aren't they?
Gosh AP, why wouldn't Biden's staff be publicizing Biden's "appearances" in advance?
Perhaps the fact that Biden's staff is forbidding local media from attending on the occasions when he does show up is a clue.
Ooooh, ooooh, I know, call on me!
*waves both hands around wildly*
Posted by: Occam's Razor at September 26, 2020 09:03 PM (v16oJ)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 26, 2020 09:03 PM (/kh7m)
Posted by: sneering fulgashi at September 26, 2020 09:03 PM (D4kFO)
https://tinyurl.com/yywpsrj4
Posted by: redridinghood at September 26, 2020 08:31 PM (+YYKs)
Well, according to FBI and DHS right wing militants (meaning Trump supporters) are the real terrorists and have been doing this to Blantifa for months now. Blantifa just getting some payback.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 26, 2020 09:03 PM (/Dgcm)
Yeah, but the problem is that an honest review can lead to feuds. The crucial piece here is having an effective and clued-in associate editor who knows who is in bed with whom, and who despises whom, and selects reviewers accordingly.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 08:53 PM (5G/3e)
Fuck their feelings.
The whole climate chaos "scientific" edifice is built on incestuous author-reviewer collusion, I am convinced. Remember how the fraudsters were slap each other on the back about keeping papers contrary to their false science out of their esteemed publications.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 26, 2020 09:04 PM (pNxlR)
The goal is NO Stories this year. OK?
Posted by: NaCly Dog
Stories are in my Business Plan
Posted by: AAA Bail Bonds by MiklosCorp at September 26, 2020 09:04 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: rhomboid at September 26, 2020 09:04 PM (OTzUX)
Mistaking fortuitous covergence for the real deal...gets you every time...
Posted by: runner at September 26, 2020 09:04 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 26, 2020 09:05 PM (2DOZq)
I had a senior reviewer tell me my organometallic compound was too unstable for room temp.
When I had the confirming crystal structure ORTEP in my hand. Good times.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 09:05 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Neil deGrasse Tyson at September 26, 2020 08:15 PM (tKQp1)
Heh. I was idly watching part of a show on TV (at the hotel, no TV at home), and this "Josh" character, some sort of "adventurer" I gather, was chatting via Skype with N. deG. Tyson about space exploration, and the latter sounded very much in favor. Which would put him in Trump's camp, if he is honest with himself.
He actually sounded fairly sane and level-headed in that chat, which surprised me.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 26, 2020 09:05 PM (FVgi/)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 09:06 PM (QF831)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 26, 2020 09:06 PM (9Om/r)
Then getting burned.
Posted by: sneering fulgashi at September 26, 2020 09:06 PM (D4kFO)
Posted by: illiniwek at September 26, 2020 09:00 PM
I appreciate that!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 26, 2020 09:07 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: runner
Ain't that the truth.
Posted by: Divorce Lawyer Miklos, Esq. at September 26, 2020 09:07 PM (QzkSJ)
... his events could be hyped locally to make sure the public's aware that he's there even if physical attendance is limited. Why aren't they?
What
A
Dope
I am ashamed that I felt grateful to have been accepted by that fraud back in the day when commenting at Tepid Gas required you to be accepted and authorized by its esteemed staff.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 26, 2020 09:07 PM (pNxlR)
374 Ben Had
The goal is NO Stories this year. OK?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 09:02 PM (u82oZ)
I want stories.
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 09:08 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 09:08 PM (QF831)
Posted by: runner at September 26, 2020 09:08 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads
Wearing properly earned pen pocket protectors and skill with a slide rule should requirements for a seat in Congress.
Posted by: The Miklos Amendment at September 26, 2020 09:08 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: sneering fulgashi at September 26, 2020 09:09 PM (D4kFO)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 09:09 PM (QF831)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 09:09 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 09:10 PM (TdMsT)
The goal is NO Stories this year. OK?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 09:02 PM
Is this a a challenge to The Horde, wishful thinking, or a prayer list request?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 26, 2020 09:10 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: runner at September 26, 2020 09:08 PM (zr5Kq)
Number one, don't go to a franchise massage place.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 09:10 PM (NWiLs)
"Driver not arrested".
A useless detail. Of course the Left can maim and kill without fear of arrest. Heck OC will probably reimburse her for removing the dents and blood off of her car and apologize for the inconvenience.
(then give her a large truck and point her to Grace Church tomorrow)
Posted by: 🐧 at September 26, 2020 09:11 PM (C+evo)
Posted by: sneering fulgashi
I haven't looked down in 30.
Posted by: Jerry the Nadler at September 26, 2020 09:11 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 08:55 PM
Shiner Bock >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Lone Star >>> Pearl
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 26, 2020 09:03 PM (DMUuz)
Sometimes you look in your wallet and have to buy a six-pack of Pearl if you want beer.
Posted by: Gref at September 26, 2020 09:11 PM (AMIL/)
Worse than "Stee Home, Stee Seef."
Worse than "we're all in this together."
Worse than "during these uncertain times."
Worse than "social distancing".
"responsibly masked."
I never realized that my systolic pressure could hit 280.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at September 26, 2020 09:11 PM (3P/5p)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 09:12 PM (QF831)
Most likely the prevalence of guns, the backhoe and the lime pit.
Posted by: 🐧 at September 26, 2020 09:12 PM (C+evo)
Posted by: Sandra Flook at September 26, 2020 09:12 PM (EgshT)
Posted by: Eromero at September 26, 2020 09:12 PM (XhWtx)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 26, 2020 09:04 PM (pNxlR)
That's the fault of the associate editor. If he's doing his job, he'll solicit reviews from people outside the cabal, and will also downweight any reviews from those inside the cabal.
It's kind of like an intelligence operation. You occasionally want to go outside of well-established channels, just in case those channels have been subverted.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 09:13 PM (5G/3e)
A
Dope
I've thought that exclusion of local press from Biden's appearances is really interesting.
Normally, Presidential candidates love local press at appearances - it helps when local Becky from local Channel 5 gets to ask a question or gets five minutes with the candidate.
But in Biden's case, the national press can be depended on to cover for Biden (hearing about a cancelled Biden appearance, strange Biden behavior not seen on camera, etc.
Local press, even though they are usually leftist, might not be so predictable.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 26, 2020 09:13 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 09:08 PM (QF831)
Probably going to fly. I would like to drive, but its a looong way for a 2 day event.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 26, 2020 09:13 PM (9Om/r)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 09:10 PM (NWiLs)
what happened ? bad service ? police raid ?? mama-san turned out to be papa-san ??
Posted by: runner at September 26, 2020 09:14 PM (zr5Kq)
Jeez, time flies! Start of TxMoMe is less than four weeks away!!! I need to start prepping next week! Everything good in your slice of Texas?
Posted by: Gref at September 26, 2020 09:14 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 26, 2020 09:14 PM (9Om/r)
we hope the really smart people are also good people, because being good is smart ... that also does not always work out (evil genius?) ... but in general, the smarter people move toward a better world for all ... I think.
So the evil schemers find more devious methods ... to deceive the good genius, for evil intentions. In this view, I think the idea of Satan as the brightest star, god of this world ... is maybe wrong. Very bright scientists did not want Hitler to get their bright ideas ... for example.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 26, 2020 09:15 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 09:15 PM (QF831)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 26, 2020 09:15 PM (Z+IKu)
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- current occupation: cat furniture at September 26, 2020 09:15 PM (yHHWj)
Posted by: Jmel at September 26, 2020 09:15 PM (bVhJi)
Posted by: The ARC of History! a
The Bill Clinton/Loretta Lynch airport meeting was only known because of one (1) local TV guy.
Posted by: Miklos, Editor Emeritus at September 26, 2020 09:15 PM (QzkSJ)
When I had the confirming crystal structure ORTEP in my hand. Good times.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 09:05 PM (u82oZ)
As a postdoc I synthesized a compound that the PI refused to believe was capable of existence until three weeks later I dropped the ORTEP on his desk.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 09:15 PM (5G/3e)
Posted by: jsg at September 26, 2020 09:15 PM (vR+Jl)
They were cornerstones of entire approaches to certain cardiac issues, affected tens of millions.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 26, 2020 09:15 PM (OTzUX)
run you own lab
Posted by: runner at September 26, 2020 09:16 PM (zr5Kq)
I'm going to embroider that and hang it in my garage.
Posted by: 🐧 at September 26, 2020 09:16 PM (C+evo)
Your observations have been true for over a hundred years. Bravo!
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 09:17 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 09:17 PM (QF831)
I'm going to embroider that and hang it in my garage.
Posted by: funny head at September 26, 2020 09:16 PM (C+evo)
go for it
Posted by: runner at September 26, 2020 09:17 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: Jmel at September 26, 2020 09:15 PM (bVhJi)
So much lefty rake stepping on.
Posted by: jsg at September 26, 2020 09:17 PM (vR+Jl)
Posted by: Jmel at September 26, 2020 09:17 PM (bVhJi)
Projection, AP, projection.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 26, 2020 09:17 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 09:09 PM (QF831)
Oh good!!!
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 09:17 PM (TdMsT)
Yeah, makes it hard to call them false when their conclusions are for results in 50 years time and "No you may not look at my modeling code and data!"
Posted by: buzzion at September 26, 2020 09:18 PM (vMCab)
Joe Biden's tax returns.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 26, 2020 09:15 PM (Z+IKu)
what he does from 8 am to 9 pm every day
Posted by: runner at September 26, 2020 09:18 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- current occupation: cat furniture at September 26, 2020 09:15 PM (yHHWj)
Thanks so much - I really appreciate it.
Science isn't an endpoint. It's a process. Nothing is ever settled. Whatever is gospel today, can easily be overturned tomorrow. Science is a way of producing models of how things work, but if they ever once fail to predict how a (reproducible) experiment turns out, that's it. They're rejected, or at least, modified.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 09:18 PM (5G/3e)
Posted by: pawn at September 26, 2020 09:19 PM (Cfk8j)
Those telling moments are when you know you've done good. Experimental data >>> a gut feeling.
So much winning.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 09:19 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 09:10 PM (NWiLs)
what happened ? bad service ? police raid ?? mama-san turned out to be papa-san ??
Posted by: runner at September 26, 2020 09:14 PM (zr5Kq)
Easy. Just find a nasty 3rd rate strip mall with a shop with a sign that just says "Massage". In red lettering.
Park your Bentley out back, so no one sees you get out. Walk in and tip heavily.
Happy ending every time. Well, except that one time.
Posted by: Bob Kraft, rich prevert at September 26, 2020 09:19 PM (Z+IKu)
Pasteur was particularly bitter about it.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 09:20 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 09:15 PM (QF831)
From the hotel?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 26, 2020 09:20 PM (9Om/r)
Prof. Levitt (Stanford Nobel laureate in biology) has the quintessential anecdote from the scientific side.
When he contacted peers about his calculations on herd immunity etc., based on Diamond Princess and Swedish data, he says the response was "you shouldn't be saying this".
Not a thing about his numbers. Nothing about his analysis - which he was looking for, and which a lifetime in science had led him to expect he would get in return - that's why he sent them the material!
"You shouldn't be saying this"
The shock on his face in the few interviews where he recounts this just emphasizes what a real scientist, like Levitt, is like. And whatever you want to call the others - well, how they're now acting.
Jay, ever hear of Thomas Kuhn's "Structure of Scientific Revolutions"? History of science book from the 70s. Very interesting.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 26, 2020 09:21 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 09:09 PM (QF831)
Oh good!!!
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 09:17 PM (TdMsT)
My stories aren't usually fit for civilized company. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 26, 2020 09:21 PM (9Om/r)
Posted by: REDACTED at September 26, 2020 09:22 PM (O+AcM)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 09:10 PM (NWiLs)
what happened ? bad service ? police raid ?? mama-san turned out to be papa-san ??
Posted by: runner at September 26, 2020 09:14 PM (zr5Kq)
They just don't do them. Way too uptight. And some bullshit about keeping their license, if you can believe that.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 09:22 PM (NWiLs)
I'm going to embroider that and hang it in my garage.
Posted by: funny head at September 26, 2020 09:16 PM (C+evo)
go for it
Posted by: runner
I will put that in the trunk of my car.
At least I'm honest.
Posted by: Miklos, thinking ahead at September 26, 2020 09:22 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: runner at September 26, 2020 09:22 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: SFGoth at September 26, 2020 09:23 PM (KAi1n)
One of my catch phrases is that a beautiful theory can be slain by an ugly fact.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 09:23 PM (u82oZ)
So much winning.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 09:19 PM (u82oZ)
Definitely. How many times have you been surprised by an experimental result? Me, I've been surprised LOTS of time.
How many times are social "scientists" surprised by their results?
It's a rhetorical question, obviously.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 09:23 PM (5G/3e)
Posted by: Ben Had
Maybe time for a **shudder**.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 09:24 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 09:09 PM (QF831)
Oh good!!!
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 09:17 PM (TdMsT)
My stories aren't usually fit for civilized company. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 26, 2020 09:21 PM (9Om/r)
This is the sort of thing that makes me nervous. I don't have any good stories to tell people. They're all lackluster at best, and shitty at worst. Not sure how to keep up surrounded by people who've led interesting lives.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 09:24 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 08:18 PM (TdMsT)
{{{Ladyl }}}
Indeed I shall, there was a Trump/Republican rally in rural (and I do mean rural) Virginia this afternoon. The weather was rainy/showers all morning and only stopped at about the planned start of the rally, my hope was that the sun would come out for the rally proper, but alas that did not happen. However the rain held off for several hours, and our estimate was that at a minimum the were a thousand plus vehicles there, and some had Maryland plates (not an easy drive), so it was very well attended. Side note, this would be about the equivalent of 15-20 % of the entire population of the county. They even had a ferry system set up so you could anchor your boat offshore and be dropped off at the pier and walk to the event.
The really great part was that there looked to be many many youngish people (20-30) in attendance, and many had brought their children!
Everyone was polite, happy, and neat (but after all, they were responsible Republicans) and easy to chat with!
Great afternoon, and gave me hope for the future!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at September 26, 2020 09:24 PM (oqV6o)
Posted by: rhomboid at September 26, 2020 09:21 PM (OTzUX)
Of course.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 09:24 PM (5G/3e)
nominee to fill Ruth Bader Ginsburg's Supreme Court seat, would help
dismantle the Affordable Care Act if she is confirmed by the Senate.
Sounds good to me.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 26, 2020 09:24 PM (UnQ9z)
Posted by: illiniwek at September 26, 2020 09:25 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: f'd at September 26, 2020 09:25 PM (FAxIM)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
More funding required, obviously.
Posted by: Social Scientist and aspiring rapper grantee Miklos at September 26, 2020 09:25 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 09:26 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 09:26 PM (5G/3e)
Posted by: runner at September 26, 2020 09:26 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 26, 2020 09:27 PM (5G/3e)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 09:27 PM (QF831)
all the stories from the crew served weapons portion of the program started with "...there I was, in the shit..."
Posted by: AltonJackson at September 26, 2020 09:27 PM (qxC6t)
nominee to fill Ruth Bader Ginsburg's Supreme Court seat, would help
dismantle the Affordable Care Act if she is confirmed by the Senate.
Awesome. Then we can once again afford to see a doctor.
Posted by: That guy who always says... at September 26, 2020 09:28 PM (EgshT)
Posted by: f'd at September 26, 2020 09:28 PM (FAxIM)
Posted by: Ms. Johnnie at September 26, 2020 09:28 PM (qB8iS)
Lawyer jokes. Can't miss.
Posted by: f'd at September 26, 2020 09:28 PM (FAxIM)
Yes ! the best.
Posted by: runner at September 26, 2020 09:28 PM (zr5Kq)
My stories aren't usually fit for civilized company. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 26, 2020 09:21 PM (9Om/r)
Are you kidding?
You're hilarious!
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 09:29 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 26, 2020 09:29 PM (q3gwH)
I have just realized that, if needed, in the Senate confirmation hearings, ACB can do a more authentic little girl voice than Blasey-Fraud.
Forget football, I want THIS
*need to stock up on cheap caviar*
Posted by: Anticipatory Miklos at September 26, 2020 09:29 PM (QzkSJ)
I did that last night with the artist that drew my logo and business card, and her tall and willowy friend, who encouraged me to get to work.
They were the first two visitors ot my production structure.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 09:29 PM (u82oZ)
so you noticed it is no longer a half gallon? I've heard that called "sizeflation" ... price stays the same, but the size gets smaller (and they hope if done incrementally, the consumer won't notice).
Posted by: illiniwek at September 26, 2020 09:29 PM (Cus5s)
Lawyer jokes. Can't miss.
Posted by: f'd at September 26, 2020 09:28 PM (FAxIM)
There's a huge difference between having entertaining stories and being the butt of jokes.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 09:30 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: f'd at September 26, 2020 09:25 PM (FAxIM)
You could just invite Nadler over for an hour.
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 09:30 PM (TdMsT)
nominee to fill Ruth Bader Ginsburg's Supreme Court seat, would help
dismantle the Affordable Care Act if she is confirmed by the Senate.
Make Healthcare Affordable Again.
Posted by: jsg at September 26, 2020 09:31 PM (vR+Jl)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 09:24 PM (NWiLs)
you know that reminds me - #42!
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 26, 2020 09:31 PM (q3gwH)
My best work, scientifically, in the commercial sphere almost always started from observations communicated to me by process operators who had the good sense to notice that something was amiss or could be done more effectively. They were as much researchers as I was.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 26, 2020 09:31 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- current occupation: cat furniture at September 26, 2020 09:31 PM (yHHWj)
Posted by: SFGoth at September 26, 2020 09:31 PM (KAi1n)
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 09:30 PM (TdMsT)
You need a Rug Doctor to do that.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 26, 2020 09:32 PM (ZjU14)
Posted by: Insomniac
One would imagine that lawyers tell the best lawyer jokes.
Posted by: Miklos, Life of the Party at September 26, 2020 09:32 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: f'd at September 26, 2020 09:32 PM (FAxIM)
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool."
- RPF
Posted by: pawn at September 26, 2020 09:32 PM (Cfk8j)
Posted by: illiniwek at September 26, 2020 09:25 PM (Cus5s)
**************
Cops tried to pull him over and they take off.
Here's some other videos-
https://tinyurl.com/yycda93o
Posted by: redridinghood at September 26, 2020 09:33 PM (+YYKs)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus
Lie
Posted by: Famous Social Media Influencer Miklos at September 26, 2020 09:33 PM (QzkSJ)
... price stays the same, but the size gets smaller (and they hope if done incrementally, the consumer won't notice).
Posted by: illiniwek at September 26, 2020 09:29 PM (Cus5s)
Well, we might not have noticed it at first, but they had to gall to advertise the reduction they made as "New, Convenient Size!"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 26, 2020 09:34 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: SFGoth at September 26, 2020 09:31 PM (KAi1n)
Ace got to interview one of the BOC on the podcast when it was a thing. I can't remember who, but that should tell you at least one of them seems to be conservative.
Posted by: buzzion at September 26, 2020 09:35 PM (vMCab)
Buck was interviewed by Ace on the sadly defunct HQ Podcast. He's an interesting guy.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 26, 2020 09:36 PM (6XLoz)
Posted by: Gref at September 26, 2020 09:36 PM (AMIL/)
.....
My stories aren't usually fit for civilized company. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 26, 2020 09:21 PM (9Om/r)
Since when are Morons civilized??
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 26, 2020 09:36 PM (/kh7m)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 09:36 PM (QF831)
Great afternoon, and gave me hope for the future!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at September 26, 2020 09:24 PM (oqV6o)
What a great experience you had, {{{Hrothgar}}}!
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 09:37 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: Weasel at September 26, 2020 09:37 PM (MVjcR)
Great afternoon, and gave me hope for the future!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at September 26, 2020 09:24 PM (oqV6o)
Insom--I have no interesting stories, myself.
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 09:38 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: ... at September 26, 2020 09:39 PM (IEsP8)
Very nice dinner.
This morning I had a sour throat and a runny nose, and fatigue. No high temp so far.
Have a great night, everyone.
Deplorable Jay Guevara, thank you for a timely subject and lively discussion.
Horde, work those Plan Bs. We may need them. And remember -- OPSEC, OPSEC, OPSEC.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 09:40 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: REDACTED at September 26, 2020 09:40 PM (O+AcM)
Yes. Biden has turned that upside down. The local press hate him for it too.
Trump does just the opposite-- carves out time for the locals everywhere he goes.
I often read the hometown press/local TV coverage of Trump rallies. It's like FRESH AIR suddenly, after the msm sludge. What are these here? FACTS, you say?
Posted by: mnw at September 26, 2020 09:41 PM (Cssks)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus
Lie
Posted by: Famous Social Media Influencer Miklos at September 26, 2020 09:33 PM (QzkSJ)
Did I ever tell you folks about the time I was in Marine Force Recon and forgot to put on my parachute when the team parachuted into Hanoi to kill Ho Chi Minh, in '67? Well, at 250 feet I spotted a huge water buffalo manure pile about a mile away and...
Posted by: Gref at September 26, 2020 09:41 PM (AMIL/)
The concept is to lease stories.
Hourly, daily, or monthly subscriptions.
*while inventory lasts*
Posted by: Stories by Miklos and Affiliated Storytelling Partners at September 26, 2020 09:43 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 26, 2020 09:45 PM (2DOZq)
stand out front and proudly sing German U-Boat songs or burn their
house down.
Posted by: [Pinguino] at September 26, 2020 08:53 PM (C+evo)
Have you tried jailing Lech Walesa yet? Try that first and see if that shows results
Posted by: Kindltot at September 26, 2020 09:45 PM (WyVLE)
Did I ever tell you folks about the time I was in Marine Force Recon and forgot to put on my parachute when the team parachuted into Hanoi to kill Ho Chi Minh, in '67? Well, at 250 feet I spotted a huge water buffalo manure pile about a mile away and...
Posted by: Gref
Did I mention that I'm also a bikini model?
Posted by: More Stories by Miklos and Affiliated Storytelling Partners at September 26, 2020 09:45 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: More Stories by Miklos and Affiliated Storytelling Partners at September 26, 2020 09:45 PM (QzkSJ)
no
Posted by: runner at September 26, 2020 09:46 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: SFGoth at September 26, 2020 09:46 PM (KAi1n)
Posted by: Gref at September 26, 2020 09:36 PM (AMIL/)
and the trick is that no one has ever fully understood statistics or probabillity.
The REAL trick is that once you know that, you know that no one knows any more about it than you do, no matter how little you know.
and if you get caught out on a ledge because you made a wrong turn somewhere in your argument, you've always got the trap door of "it's all bullshit, it's all bullshit" to save you. Because it really is all bullshit.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 26, 2020 09:46 PM (q3gwH)
Posted by: klaftern at September 26, 2020 09:47 PM (RuIsu)
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 09:38 PM
What about your induction ceremony into the Yoko Hall of Fame?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 26, 2020 09:47 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 26, 2020 09:45 PM (2DOZq)
Blue Oyster Cult
Blue Nile
Black Sabbath
Black Crowes
ummm....
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 26, 2020 09:47 PM (/kh7m)
to house transgender inmates in prisons based on their gender identity -
but only if the state does not have "management or security concerns."
The state is burning, electric outages, cities are shitholes and this is what they are focused on.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 26, 2020 09:47 PM (UnQ9z)
My hot buttered rum recipe involves making up the portions of spiced butter ahead of time and I don't have any idea how many to make. I still have some left from a bonfire last Christmas. I will of course make fresh ones for Texas.
Posted by: Emmie at September 26, 2020 09:47 PM (4JM5Y)
Posted by: blaster at September 26, 2020 09:47 PM (ZfRYq)
Hourly, daily, or monthly subscriptions.
*while inventory lasts*
Posted by: Stories by Miklos and Affiliated Storytelling Partners at September 26, 2020 09:43 PM (QzkSJ)
yeah, yeah, my sister and I did that with term papers in high school.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 26, 2020 09:48 PM (q3gwH)
GILF's everywhere came out and wanted to feel my big biceps.
But I asked them for single daughters, looking for pleasure. One by one, they went back into their houses.
I stood alone in the street. Until ...
Tales of the wild Insomniac. I swear it to be true, as a Biden.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 26, 2020 09:48 PM (u82oZ)
We are blessed that God forgives and redeems us.
Posted by: Emmie at September 26, 2020 09:49 PM (4JM5Y)
Posted by: More Stories by Miklos and Affiliated Storytelling Partners at September 26, 2020 09:45 PM (QzkSJ)
no
Posted by: runner
And I have a yacht, like, a big like boat on, like water that goes where I tell it and there are pictures of me on it SO AWESOME
Posted by: Believable Social Media Rich Kid Miklos from Victoria's Secret at September 26, 2020 09:50 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: REDACTED at September 26, 2020 09:50 PM (O+AcM)
Posted by: klaftern at September 26, 2020 09:50 PM (RuIsu)
What about your induction ceremony into the Yoko Hall of Fame?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 26, 2020 09:47 PM (DMUuz)
Dang.
I thought that was long ago forgotten and buried...
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 09:51 PM (TdMsT)
Black Crowes
ummm....
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 26, 2020 09:47 PM (/kh7m)
Big Black
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 26, 2020 09:52 PM (/Dgcm)
I wish you success in this endeavor, not an easy task, but a worthy one!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at September 26, 2020 09:52 PM (oqV6o)
Posted by: SFGoth at September 26, 2020 09:52 PM (KAi1n)
And they keep the same "Servings Per Container" with the reduced calorie count so that it now appears healthier than the previous full volume version.
Posted by: 🐧 at September 26, 2020 09:52 PM (C+evo)
-
You've got to give her credit for planning ahead. Years ago, on the off chance she might be nominated, she weaponized her whiteness and adopted black kids as props to score points.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 26, 2020 09:53 PM (+y/Ru)
Black Mirrors
Black Veil Brides
Black Submarine
Black Keys
Black Rebel Motorcycle Club
There's gotta be a zillion Black Something or Other bands out there.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 26, 2020 09:53 PM (H5knJ)
I thought that was long ago forgotten and buried...
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 09:51 PM (TdMsT)
I thought you knew by now that the internet is forever...
Unless you are a Democrat candidate or nominee for high office!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at September 26, 2020 09:54 PM (oqV6o)
Bunch of us are out drinking
m ex wife passes out in the back of our Suburban, curled up to my golf clubs
she wakes up in the parking lot of a titty bar
comes inside of titty bar with a 7 iron
the rest will cost you
Posted by: REDACTED at September 26, 2020 09:54 PM (O+AcM)
Posted by: JuJuBee at September 26, 2020 09:54 PM (mNhhD)
Posted by: runner at September 26, 2020 09:55 PM (zr5Kq)
And they keep the same "Servings Per Container" with the reduced calorie count so that it now appears healthier than the previous full volume version.
-------------------
Store brand vegetable juice is still the same size,
but now with 80% potato juice.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 26, 2020 09:55 PM (/Dgcm)
problem is that they all end with "and then I made bail'
Posted by: REDACTED
Always showed up.
Next time, no problem amigo.
Actually, this guy is one of my few English speaking repeat customers these days.
Posted by: AAA Bail Bonds by Miklos at September 26, 2020 09:55 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: REDACTED at September 26, 2020 09:56 PM (O+AcM)
Bunch of us are out drinking
m ex wife passes out in the back of our Suburban, curled up to my golf clubs
she wakes up in the parking lot of a titty bar
comes inside of titty bar with a 7 iron
the rest will cost you
Posted by: REDACTED at September 26, 2020 09:54 PM (O+AcM)
OK 'Tiger', that was on all the news.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 26, 2020 09:57 PM (/Dgcm)
don't have any good stories to tell people. They're all lackluster at
best, and shitty at worst. Not sure how to keep up surrounded by people
who've led interesting lives.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 09:24 PM (NWiLs)
You don't need stories. Just comment and add shit to ones you hear. Usually alcohol makes that a hysterical episode anyway. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 26, 2020 09:57 PM (9Om/r)
Posted by: JuJuBee at September 26, 2020 09:57 PM (mNhhD)
-
I strangled Ho Chi Minh with his own entrails.
Posted by: Dick "Dick" Blumenthal at September 26, 2020 09:57 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: AAA Bail Bonds by Miklos at September 26, 2020 09:55 PM (QzkSJ)
ahem,
broken English
Posted by: REDACTED at September 26, 2020 09:57 PM (O+AcM)
Posted by: Ben Had at September 26, 2020 09:36 PM (QF831)
I'm gonna need some of JackStraw's stash...
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 09:58 PM (NWiLs)
I thought you knew by now that the internet is forever...
Unless you are a Democrat candidate or nominee for high office!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at September 26, 2020 09:54 PM (oqV6o)
I have to be more careful to avoid online humiliation!
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 09:58 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,
The black kids were adopted from Haiti.
The Haitian vote is actually a thing in Florida.
This will not hurt.
Posted by: Miklos, PoliSci pants on (not really) at September 26, 2020 09:58 PM (QzkSJ)
I thought that was long ago forgotten and buried...
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 09:51 PM
There's videos of you walking the red carpet, and your acceptance speech.
I've also heard there are videos of several of the post-induction parties.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 26, 2020 09:58 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: blaster at September 26, 2020 09:47 PM (ZfRYq)
One actual Trump rally in Newport News, and a at least one Republican (thus Trumpian) local rally in southern VA!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at September 26, 2020 09:58 PM (oqV6o)
Posted by: Gref
Did I mention that I'm also a bikini model?
Posted by: More Stories by Miklos and Affiliated Storytelling Partners at September 26, 2020 09:45 PM (QzkSJ)
Miklos is Brian Williams?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 09:58 PM (NWiLs)
Bunch of us are out drinking
m ex wife passes out in the back of our Suburban, curled up to my golf clubs
she wakes up in the parking lot of a titty bar
comes inside of titty bar with a 7 iron
the rest will cost you
Posted by: REDACTED at September 26, 2020 09:54 PM (O+AcM)
Even God can't hit anything with a 7-iron.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 26, 2020 09:58 PM (3n1kC)
I know, I know: everything else I posted was sh!t. *shrugs*
Posted by: Gilded at September 26, 2020 09:59 PM (BRkq2)
Posted by: dartist at September 26, 2020 09:59 PM (+ya+t)
Posted by: REDACTED at September 26, 2020 09:56 PM (O+AcM)
It's not like SC hasn't known about this for years!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at September 26, 2020 10:00 PM (oqV6o)
Bunch of us are out drinking
m ex wife passes out in the back of our Suburban, curled up to my golf clubs
she wakes up in the parking lot of a titty bar
comes inside of titty bar with a 7 iron
the rest will cost you
Posted by: REDACTED at September 26, 2020 09:54 PM (O+AcM)
OK 'Tiger', that was on all the news.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 26, 2020 09:57 PM (/Dgcm)
Thought it was a Perkins. I've actually had breakfast at that same Perkins, in the parking lot of which Tiger Woods banged one of the waitresses. It's closed now. Sad.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 10:00 PM (NWiLs)
https://preview.tinyurl.com/6qs6eka
Posted by: Gref at September 26, 2020 10:01 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: Ladyl at September 26, 2020 09:38 PM
See, I doubt that very much.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 10:01 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 26, 2020 09:58 PM (3n1kC)
I thought the joke involved holding up a 1-iron.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 10:02 PM (NWiLs)
I have never seen Graham looking shiftier than he did tonite
and that's saying something
Posted by: REDACTED at September 26, 2020 10:02 PM (O+AcM)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 10:02 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Dick "Dick" Blumenthal
Your nomination has been received and approved.
-Miklos Molnar, recording secretary
Posted by: The Norwegian Nobel Committee for Heh (in Norwegian, Heh) at September 26, 2020 10:03 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 26, 2020 10:00 PM (NWiLs)
see, that's a show !!
Posted by: REDACTED at September 26, 2020 10:04 PM (O+AcM)
Posted by: JuJuBee at September 26, 2020 09:57 PM (mNhhD)
Flour used to be in a 5 lb bag now in 4 lb bag. Same price. I think they did the same to sugar as well.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 26, 2020 10:04 PM (UnQ9z)
Posted by: Joan Rivers at September 26, 2020 10:07 PM (r+ov6)
Posted by: PubliusNV at September 27, 2020 12:02 AM (AdCsI)
Posted by: BCM89292 at September 27, 2020 10:25 AM (K7FWT)
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