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Atlanta Fed Forecasts a Thirty Two Percent Growth Rate in the Third Quarter, with the GDP Numbers to be Released Right Before the Election, October 29
The Atlanta Fed models the forward GDP for the 3rd quarter. It's current estimate comes in at 32%. That is up from 31.7% yesterday. In their own words: The GDPNow model estimate for real GDP growth (seasonally adjusted annual rate) in the third quarter of 2020 is 32.0 percent on September 17, up from 31.7 percent on September 16. After this morning's housing starts report from the U.S. Census Bureau, the nowcast of third-quarter real residential investment growth increased from 39.3 percent to 46.1 percent. The next estimate will come on September 25.The New York Fed's forecast is lower -- but still high. They're forecasting an (annualized) quarterly growth of 15.63%, about half of what Atlanta forecasts. Still, given that a quarterly growth of 4% is considered strong growth, anything from 15% to 32% will be... acceptable.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 22, 2020 04:52 PM (Ovx84)
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Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 22, 2020 04:55 PM (PiwSw)
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Growth is racist!
Posted by: Axeman at September 22, 2020 04:55 PM (Eicbe)
Posted by: x at September 22, 2020 04:55 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Les Kinetic at September 22, 2020 04:55 PM (2m6Dq)
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 22, 2020 04:55 PM (zvvCx)
@ClayTravis
An organization funded by LeBron James is texting Florida voters asking if they know any convicted felons so LeBron can pay off their fines, allowing them to vote.
LeBron Actively Looking to Pay Convicted Felons' Fines to Vote in Election - OutKick
Celebrities and athletes are known to endorse presidential candidates. LeBron James is taking that initiative a step further. LeBron and the Florida
https://t.co/dSjGbCqdJo?amp=1
11:20 AM · Sep 22, 2020
Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at September 22, 2020 04:55 PM (FBrfY)
Posted by: Mark1971 at September 22, 2020 04:55 PM (xPl2J)
Posted by: kbdabear at September 22, 2020 04:55 PM (qAR6u)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 22, 2020 04:56 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Miklos, seeing an upward spike at September 22, 2020 04:56 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2020 04:56 PM (rjE57)
Quarter over quarter, which makes it less impressive that it reads, but it basically means that Trump was right...again...and that opening things up will allow most of the economy to come back.
Some businesses are screwed by the extended shutdowns. Restaurants and what-not. Others are screwed by the riots. But the demand is still there so business will return, even if it isn't to those people.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at September 22, 2020 04:56 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: dananjcon at September 22, 2020 04:56 PM (u6xw0)
It's like sticking your hand blindly into a plastic pumpkin full of Halloween treats -- you don't know what you'll be pulling out, but you'll be sure to like it!
You will be pulling out Wasabi Kit Kats, and you will love them.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 22, 2020 04:56 PM (H5knJ)
Posted by: Axeman at September 22, 2020 04:56 PM (Eicbe)
OT-Protesters in Portland suburbs threaten to burn down the house of a black man who is veteran and runs a non profit to help the homeless- because he wouldn't take down his American flag:
https://tinyurl.com/yysw4qxd
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2020 04:57 PM (WkPC9)
Posted by: Jmel at September 22, 2020 04:57 PM (bVhJi)
Posted by: tubal at September 22, 2020 04:57 PM (bCLt0)
Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2020 04:57 PM (Rvt88)
Bloomy just spent 20 million doing this.
Shit should be illegal. Buying votes and all.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 22, 2020 04:57 PM (kTi97)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 22, 2020 04:55 PM (PiwSw)
It's time for him to put his head in a gass oven. Of course he would need a stool.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 22, 2020 04:57 PM (c8R0G)
@ClayTravis
An organization funded by LeBron James is texting Florida voters asking if they know any convicted felons so LeBron can pay off their fines, allowing them to vote.
LeBron Actively Looking to Pay Convicted Felons' Fines to Vote in Election - OutKick
Celebrities and athletes are known to endorse presidential candidates. LeBron James is taking that initiative a step further. LeBron and the Florida
Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at September 22, 2020 04:55 PM (FBrfY)
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To late, Bloomberg beat him to it:
DM
Is Bloomberg trying to buy the Florida vote? Billionaire pays off more than $20m in debt for 31,000 felons so they can vote in the state where just 537 votes decided the presidential election in 2000.
Posted by: WisRich at September 22, 2020 04:58 PM (G0vdT)
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at September 22, 2020 04:58 PM (GbPPJ)
Posted by: Someguy at September 22, 2020 04:58 PM (Zm+LZ)
Posted by: lorien1973 at September 22, 2020 04:58 PM (SpKeo)
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Well it would be better than Gitmo.
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 22, 2020 04:58 PM (zvvCx)
My parents mentioned in the last post are a good example of not catching up to politics or the truth. Most Americans are busy or set in their ways, and distracted but eventually people do, as a collective, figure things out.
Many are at that state now with Trump. Either they weakly voted for him in the last election, or they now see the light.
The left base will always be the rabid base. And worse now, so I imagine it will continue to shrink. They know this too that is why they want illegals voting, mail in fraud and felons being able to vote. Anything they can do to beef up the voter base because it is shrinking.
I have a lot of hope now.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2020 04:58 PM (rjE57)
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at September 22, 2020 04:58 PM (ch6++)
Posted by: Ha at September 22, 2020 04:59 PM (iINbI)
https://tinyurl.com/yysw4qxd
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2020 04:57 PM (WkPC9)
"Protesters"
Posted by: Vanya at September 22, 2020 04:59 PM (BAsqb)
RICH GET RICHER!!
etc.
The MFM will use these headline templates or this will be embargoed completely. Or both.
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 22, 2020 04:59 PM (yXYv7)
Posted by: ShainS at September 22, 2020 04:59 PM (bFfr9)
A 35% drop in GDP would be everyone's fighting over a can of beans. Something tells me we won't see headlines like "GDP Rises 32%!!!" this time.
Posted by: Blago at September 22, 2020 04:59 PM (gkdnV)
wow. not too shabby.
and he did it by ignoring the economic experts who asserted that economic growth is dictated by the number of union pensions that are currently being funded by the public.
Posted by: guest myspace user at September 22, 2020 04:59 PM (7uiTk)
The only thing that could make it better is if the journalism/media sector declined 32% in the same period.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2020 04:59 PM (mht8P)
Posted by: Droolin' Joe Biden! at September 22, 2020 04:59 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 22, 2020 04:59 PM (kA3Cp)
If Trump is re-elected will Obama flee the country?
Posted by: Jmel at September 22, 2020 04:57 PM (bVhJi)
I wish the ones who said they would IF he gets elected would fucking just do it already.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2020 04:59 PM (pmcmT)
Posted by: Dad of Six at September 22, 2020 04:59 PM (XrTBx)
DM
Is Bloomberg trying to buy the Florida vote? Billionaire pays off more than $20m in debt for 31,000 felons so they can vote in the state where just 537 votes decided the presidential election in 2000.
How can this possibly be legal? It goes above and beyond the normal Democrat Practices of trading Liquor and Cigarettes for Votes.
Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2020 04:59 PM (jhZVv)
Posted by: Alexandria Donkey-Chompers at September 22, 2020 05:00 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2020 05:00 PM (hku12)
Oh I, I got work to do, I've got work, baby
Got work to do, I've got to give it
Got work to do, I've got work to do
Got work to do, got so much work, yeah yeah
I've been trying to make it, woman can't you see
Takes a lot of money to make it, let's talk truthfully
Keep your love light burning, and a little food hot in a plate
You might as well get use to me coming home a little late
https://tinyurl.com/y3a2wjw6
Isley Brothers of course, Average White Band just stole the damn thing.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 22, 2020 05:00 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Old Dude at September 22, 2020 05:00 PM (LGXGf)
Obama gets credit if only for being so incredibly pizz-poor that Trump actually entered the race. Once he got it, there was no stopping him.#TrainKeepsARollin
Posted by: IP at September 22, 2020 05:00 PM (w9UC1)
O.K. I'll just go for it this once, You can pin the closed businesses mostly on Democrat Mayors and Governors. Comrade De Blasio, for instance ,says restaurants are something wealthy people go to. so he doesn't really care about them. First of all restaurants cater to a variety of people, and secondly they employ a huge number of people but sure.....all Trump's fault.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2020 05:00 PM (WkPC9)
Pretty impressive considering an almost wiped out hospitality, entertainment and travel industry.
Posted by: 🐧 at September 22, 2020 05:00 PM (C+evo)
https://tinyurl.com/yysw4qxd
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2020 04:57 PM (WkPC9)
"Protesters"
Posted by: Vanya at September 22, 2020 04:59 PM (BAsqb)
To be fair, what could be more offensive than an American flag in Portland?
Posted by: tubal at September 22, 2020 05:00 PM (bCLt0)
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 22, 2020 05:00 PM (zvvCx)
You will be pulling out Wasabi Kit Kats, and you will love them.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 22, 2020 04:56 PM (H5knJ)
I picture a five yo in a Kylo Ren costume screaming with green ooze all over his mask.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 22, 2020 05:00 PM (Ovx84)
Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2020 05:00 PM (OjZpE)
cole hersch
@ColesTwitt3r
Saddleback College held a discussion on potential new mascots, so a student sent me the zoom link.
https://tinyurl.com/y5w9o4vv
3:56 PM · Sep 17, 2020
Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at September 22, 2020 05:00 PM (FBrfY)
Posted by: Marcus T at September 22, 2020 05:01 PM (VpIIl)
The economy CAN NOT be seen to be surging just before the election.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 22, 2020 05:01 PM (2JVJo)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 22, 2020 05:01 PM (1ISKN)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 22, 2020 05:01 PM (kA3Cp)
Posted by: Zombie Teddy Kennedy at September 22, 2020 05:01 PM (Eicbe)
Not the suburbs. Portland.
The suburbs don't have Soros DAs - Antifa doesn't dare operate out here.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 22, 2020 05:01 PM (I2/tG)
How can this possibly be legal? It goes above and beyond the normal Democrat Practices of trading Liquor and Cigarettes for Votes.
Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2020 04:59 PM (jhZVv)
I didn't even know Florida allowed this. Basically felons can vote once they pay off some debt owed to the state?
Who came up with that shit?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 22, 2020 05:01 PM (kTi97)
When's the last day to register to vote in Florida for this election? It'd be funny if that dipshit Bloomberg spent a ton of money on another effort that'll have no effect.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at September 22, 2020 05:01 PM (ExV1e)
They'll wait until the final number is announced. If it comes in at 29%, it will be "Disappointing GDP Number Fails to Meet Expectations".
Posted by: Mostly Peaceful Grognard at September 22, 2020 05:01 PM (b3x5S)
This is what happens when the president kills off 200 million of his own people!
Posted by: ShainS at September 22, 2020 04:59 PM (bFfr9)
just thinning the herd is all. for Gaia. The climate nazis should be beside themselves with glee.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2020 05:01 PM (pmcmT)
And what is the NYT's headline for this story?
"Some Protests Against Police Brutality Take a More Confrontational Approach"
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 22, 2020 05:01 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 22, 2020 05:01 PM (l9m7l)
King DeBlasio Says He Will Let Peasants Know When They Can Resume Their Lives In Manhattan
Mayor Bill de Blasio promised a decision "very soon" on whether and how to let restaurants continue offering outdoor dining throughout the colder temps.
"In fact, it's on the agenda - I think even later on today - to try and resolve that. We're going to work with the city agencies, with the state," de Blasio told reporters during a City Hall press briefing Tuesday.
De Blasio said he wants "to see what we can do to address" the possibility of extending outdoor dining throughout the fall and winter "fairly" because "I want to give every possible opportunity to our restaurants to succeed and survive."
Posted by: Kaiser Wilhem at September 22, 2020 05:01 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: guest myspace user at September 22, 2020 05:02 PM (7uiTk)
Posted by: Teh Gheys at September 22, 2020 05:02 PM (BD0Jm)
Posted by: Durham at September 22, 2020 05:02 PM (AD14M)
Posted by: ShainS at September 22, 2020 05:02 PM (bFfr9)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 22, 2020 04:55 PM (PiwSw)
It's time for him to put his head in a gass oven. Of course he would need a stool.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy
He tried but he discovered to late that he owned an electric oven. Very embarrassing for the Nobel Prize winner.
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 22, 2020 05:02 PM (yXYv7)
DM
Is Bloomberg trying to buy the Florida vote? Billionaire pays off more than $20m in debt for 31,000 felons so they can vote in the state where just 537 votes decided the presidential election in 2000.
How can this possibly be legal? It goes above and beyond the normal Democrat Practices of trading Liquor and Cigarettes for Votes.
Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2020 04:59 PM (jhZVv)
Have no idea how this is legal, but this has got to be one of the reasons why Ron DeSantis did what he did yesterday.
Posted by: Marybeth at September 22, 2020 05:02 PM (4pK1/)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 22, 2020 05:02 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: iandeal at September 22, 2020 05:03 PM (vgGyZ)
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at September 22, 2020 05:03 PM (JRaU+)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2020 05:03 PM (WkPC9)
wait! there's a run on popcorn!! Fist ammo! now THIS!!!!?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2020 05:03 PM (pmcmT)
Posted by: Les Kinetic
Similar to my beagle. I let her out into my back yard for about a half hour. Then I stand at the patio door and yell "Treat!" She thinks about it, and if she feels like it, she stays out there and continues sniffing around for rabbits and squirrels.
Right now she's howling because she finished her dinner and wants to go out. Spoiled Rotten and it is all my fault.
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 22, 2020 05:04 PM (+lVUW)
I actually do not care if people want to pay late court fees off. But felons should have to pay their own restitution.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at September 22, 2020 05:04 PM (JRaU+)
When's the last day to register to vote in Florida for this election? It'd be funny if that dipshit Bloomberg spent a ton of money on another effort that'll have no effect.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at September 22, 2020 05:01 PM (ExV1e)
29 days before election day
Posted by: Marybeth at September 22, 2020 05:04 PM (4pK1/)
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this is something that I've been stewing on....trump needs to use civil war remedies. How do you think we dealt with the democrats' other direct-action militia? We need to arrest judges, prosecutors, mayors, governors...who ever. These afa's are basically the klllan...and need to be squashed. Their local supporters in the government have turned them into state sanctioned violence.
fine, if that's what you want.
Posted by: guest myspace user at September 22, 2020 05:04 PM (7uiTk)
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Yeah, that's the problem. You haven't been crazy/evil enough.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2020 05:04 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically
How would Joe deal with that at the debates?
Oh, sorry....
Posted by: Miklos, willing to bet money and thereby further boost the GDP at September 22, 2020 05:04 PM (QzkSJ)
1. Hurt 150 million people;
2. Bankrupt millions of businesses;
3. Set up the economy for historical growth rates just prior to the presidential election;
4. ????
5. PROFIT!!
Imbeciles. Enemies of Civilization.
Posted by: Sharkman at September 22, 2020 05:04 PM (BM2fS)
Posted by: Alexandria Donkey-Chompers at September 22, 2020 05:00 PM (PbpT7)
I'm just gonna say it, because I'm gonna say it. Most people.. I don't care who, get really sick and tired of women telling them what to do all the time.
This sureness we see from some of these crazy bints is VERY off-putting. When the barmaid gets all uppity, most people don't like it. When Cummala gets that smug look on her face, almost everyone at least THINKS about slapping it off.
And yeah, I think the feeling is even more intense, when said bint is an Of Color woman. Sorry, you just haven't earned it yet, baby.
I think this is going to show up in the polls, even though no one will admit it.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2020 05:04 PM (hku12)
Better to expect the worst and be pleasantly surprised than be Pollyanna or Dr Pangloss and have your soul crushed daily.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 22, 2020 05:04 PM (2JVJo)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 22, 2020 05:02 PM (oVJmc)
Probably between 6 to 8%, with lower numbers(lower unemployment) in the South and Midwest and higher numbers in the Northeast and the West.
Posted by: Someguy at September 22, 2020 05:04 PM (Zm+LZ)
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 22, 2020 05:02 PM (yXYv7)
I think it was someone here, months ago, joking about some Lefty trying to kill himself by running the car in the garage, only to be reminded hours later that he owns a Tesla.
Posted by: Vanya at September 22, 2020 05:04 PM (BAsqb)
Posted by: ShainS at September 22, 2020 05:04 PM (bFfr9)
Posted by: Kaiser Wilhem at September 22, 2020 05:01 PM (+y/Ru)
AM I NOT MERCIFUL
Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2020 05:05 PM (t+qrx)
Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2020 04:59 PM (jhZVv)
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I'll allow it.
Posted by: Judge-King Punchy at September 22, 2020 05:05 PM (Eicbe)
Posted by: Larro at September 22, 2020 05:05 PM (Pj0Yv)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2020 05:05 PM (yQpMk)
44 How will Big Media spin this? Stock up on popcorn!
wait! there's a run on popcorn!! Fist ammo! now THIS!!!!?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2020 05:03 PM (pmcmT)
They will spin it on a year-over-year basis. What is the GDP for Q3 2020 vs. what it was one year ago.Yeah, we had a pandemic, but the Left will use that comparison since it is really the only arrow in their quiver.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 22, 2020 05:05 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: DNC at September 22, 2020 05:05 PM (H8QX8)
Posted by: Fortcoins at September 22, 2020 05:05 PM (nV60k)
because democrat. that's how.
meanwhile...in fake news world, I see that Devos is under "investigation" for Hatch Act for...IDK...rolls dice...being on TV, talking about Trump.
It's stupid but as long as the GOP allows it to be so...it will stay so.
Posted by: guest myspace user at September 22, 2020 05:05 PM (7uiTk)
So the wanna-be next president
Does Harris need a teleprompter so she knows what Xi/Soros wants?
Trump vs Wizard of Oz
Posted by: 🐧 at September 22, 2020 05:05 PM (C+evo)
I don't know of any democrats switching over. I live in a very lefty area and all I know are lefties. I get leftism shoved at me at work, while watching tv, listening to the radio, meeting the kids' firend's parents, at band rehearsal, at church. My only escape is when I'm sleeping. And I don't even talk politics with people. They assume everyone agrees with them, so talking politics is a bonding experience for lefties. It drives me insane.
And with the shutdown, I miss face to face contact, but to be honest that face to face contact is always a pain in the ass, so now I feel indifferent. It's kinda nice not always being preached to.
Posted by: InCali at September 22, 2020 05:05 PM (9AFWN)
Posted by: garrett
"Shining Economy Based on Taking All of Our Previously Exported Industries Back from China . . . On A Hill."
Hmmm, needs work.
Posted by: Sharkman at September 22, 2020 05:05 PM (BM2fS)
- NY, NJ, CA, MI, IL Governors
Posted by: Asshoes at September 22, 2020 05:06 PM (Bl5GC)
Posted by: Vanya at September 22, 2020 04:59 PM (BAsqb)
I used that word because I was quoting the" NY Times".
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2020 05:06 PM (WkPC9)
Trump just broke economics.
Granted, Wuhan-hysteria drove everything down like a rocket, but holy whack! A recovery like that? That doesn't take a decade to reach? Has to be historic.
But, yes, let's bring back Obamanomics, America. Let's deny the leadership its credit and support because
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at September 22, 2020 05:06 PM (HhXSr)
Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2020 04:59 PM (jhZVv)
This definitely goes over the legal line if any advocacy for voting Dems was made prior by Bloomberg to or after paying off their fines...either political materials sent or communications making suggestions...even if not, then an implied quid pro quo argument can still be made given Bloomberg's political background and office holdings. The RNC should sue....
Posted by: Boswell at September 22, 2020 05:06 PM (w2LAm)
If that's even close, it's gonna be hard to counter with messaging.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 22, 2020 05:06 PM (hYcqw)
Posted by: Puddin Head
Saw a blurb pop up today that Michael Jordan is going to become a NASCAR team owner soon.
Probably "Fake Noose", but maybe true.
Posted by: Sharkman at September 22, 2020 05:06 PM (BM2fS)
Easy.
"While Trump was focusing on making the Fat Cats Fatter, 200K people died due to his NEGLIGENCE!!!!"
Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2020 05:06 PM (HrMC1)
De Blasio said he wants "to see what we can do to address" the
possibility of extending outdoor dining throughout the fall and winter
"fairly" because "I want to give every possible opportunity to our
restaurants to succeed and survive."
Posted by: Kaiser Wilhem at September 22, 2020 05:01 PM (+y/Ru)
AM I NOT MERCIFUL
Posted by: hogmartin at September 22, 2020 05:05 PM (t+qrx)
Because sitting outside eating tofu in a hip NYC restaurant when it is 20 degrees is appealing.SMOD - it is up to you unless a miracle happens and the ruling class finally gets their head out of their arse. So lets either get the big explosion (SMOD) or a pop (removal of cranium from rectum).
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 22, 2020 05:06 PM (N39Ws)
1. Hurt 150 million people;
2. Bankrupt millions of businesses;
3. Set up the economy for historical growth rates just prior to the presidential election;
4. ????
5. PROFIT!!
Posted by: Sharkman at September 22, 2020 05:04 PM (BM2fS)
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And hopefully, it shifts some financial power over to red states on a permanent basis.
Posted by: Axeman at September 22, 2020 05:07 PM (Eicbe)
cole hersch
Saddleback College held a discussion on potential new mascots, so a student sent me the zoom link.
https://tinyurl.com/y5w9o4vv
3:56 PM Sep 17, 2020
Posted by: BetaCuck4Life
LOL!!
Alright, which one of you morons did this??!!!
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 22, 2020 05:07 PM (yXYv7)
Fuck, Trump should have been in NASCAR.
Posted by: Puddin Head
Saw a blurb pop up today that Michael Jordan is going to become a NASCAR team owner soon.
Probably "Fake Noose", but maybe true.
Posted by: Sharkman at September 22, 2020 05:06 PM (BM2fS)
No, it is legit. He is getting Bubba Wallace to drive for him.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 22, 2020 05:07 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2020 05:06 PM (WkPC9)
No, I know. Just trying to underline what a bunch of gaslighting liars they are. What they are doing is terrorism.
Posted by: Vanya at September 22, 2020 05:07 PM (BAsqb)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 22, 2020 05:07 PM (kA3Cp)
Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2020 05:06 PM (HrMC1)
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You win.
Posted by: Axeman at September 22, 2020 05:07 PM (Eicbe)
Posted by: Fi from Burn Notice, learning how to vote at September 22, 2020 05:07 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at September 22, 2020 05:08 PM (sTnpX)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper
*tweet*
*yellow flag on the field*
"AoSHQ Stylebook Violation! Please use 'Former Diminutive Enron Advisor Paul Krugman'
Five yard penalty. Repeat down."
Posted by: Sharkman at September 22, 2020 05:08 PM (BM2fS)
But I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he was actually
recruited to do exactly what he's done, and on the timetable that its
happened.
Between the world wide pedo rings, drug rat lines, corruption
and money laundering, I'm inclined to think there was a cadre of good
guys in intel who decided to save the world.
It definitely seemed like the dem's voter fraud plans on 2016 election night were thwarted, and that wouldn't necessarily be Trump's doing.
Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2020 05:08 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 22, 2020 05:07 PM (kA3Cp)
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There was no misallocation of resources for the economy to account for.
There was a government mandated pause.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 22, 2020 05:08 PM (UWqZJ)
Better to expect the worst and be pleasantly surprised than be Pollyanna or Dr Pangloss and have your soul crushed daily.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 22, 2020 05:04 PM (2JVJo)
Yeah, I guess Despair can be compartmentalized. Economic Despair, Existential Despair, relationship Despair. There's a lot of choices, really.
Posted by: tubal at September 22, 2020 05:08 PM (bCLt0)
Posted by: Jane D'Oh at September 22, 2020 05:08 PM (ptqGC)
https://tinyurl.com/yysw4qxd
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2020 04:57 PM (WkPC9)
Why don't these people just get the fuck out of our country already?
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 22, 2020 05:09 PM (oUCCe)
Posted by: Les Kinetic
Similar to my beagle. I let her out into my back yard for about a half hour. Then I stand at the patio door and yell "Treat!" She thinks about it, and if she feels like it, she stays out there and continues sniffing around for rabbits and squirrels.
Right now she's howling because she finished her dinner and wants to go out. Spoiled Rotten and it is all my fault.
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 22, 2020 05:04 PM (+lVUW)
My dog isn't super obedient but when I tell her to come she comes.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 22, 2020 05:09 PM (c8R0G)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at September 22, 2020 05:08 PM (sTnpX)
Yes, but the MSM annualized the numbers when they were DOWN, so what's fair is fair
Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2020 05:09 PM (HrMC1)
Probably "Fake Noose", but maybe true.
Posted by: Sharkman at September 22, 2020 05:06 PM (BM2fS)
Let's be honest: Who cares?
NASCAR (which should be forced to change its name, as none of the cars are stock or anywhere near it) has been bleeding itself to death for a very long time now.
Posted by: Vanya at September 22, 2020 05:09 PM (BAsqb)
https://tinyurl.com/yysw4qxd
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2020 04:57 PM (WkPC9)
Why don't these people just get the fuck out of our country already?
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 22, 2020 05:09 PM (oUCCe)
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Because some of it is still standing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 22, 2020 05:09 PM (UWqZJ)
There was a government mandated pause.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 22, 2020 05:08 PM (UWqZJ)
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That's what I was saying back in May. This isn't market exhaustion. The market was in fact champing at the bit to get back.
Posted by: Axeman at September 22, 2020 05:09 PM (Eicbe)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 22, 2020 05:07 PM (kA3Cp)
Yup - this was an easy prediction for Trump. Artificial barriers to growth can be removed, and when they are, growth rises fairly quickly in a free society with property rights...only blue state dems continue to smother their economies with a Covid pillow.
Posted by: Boswell at September 22, 2020 05:09 PM (w2LAm)
China really has him on a leash, don't they? They say, "Jump!" and he says, "Height depends on how many shoes you buy."
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at September 22, 2020 05:09 PM (HhXSr)
A pro-Antifa "journalist" in Portland, who unusually for Antifa has very nice elbows, decided she isn't going to riots anymore because the people there are so toxic.
She states:
I've seen this transpire in a few different instances... mainly when someone calls out misogyny, homophobia, and swoop troops. Idk. My 2 cents on things I've witnessed and things that could help the community as a whole if addressed. I don't have answers but talking is a start
Oops - she is immediately denounced and apologizes:
I just want to whole heartedly apologize for not including transphobia in this thread. I don't have any screenshots 4 examples, but if u trust me, I've witnessed it first hand way more than I should be able to admit. Knock it off. Do we really need to talk about intersectionality
She continues to be attacked for genocidally ignoring trans people, and responds:
AS AN AUTISTIC BI SYRIAN WOMAN (who has been a victim of verbal, violent and sexual abuse) I'M OFFENDED BY IT ALL. ok bye. Hopefully we can all have a productive conversation.
LOL. Life in Portland.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 22, 2020 05:10 PM (I2/tG)
Scott Sloofman
@ScottSloofman
Tantrum: Schumer Blocks Bipartisan Hearing On Counterintelligence Over SCOTUS Objections
Video: https://tinyurl.com/y2zlrdda
1:51 PM · Sep 22, 2020
Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at September 22, 2020 05:10 PM (FBrfY)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
Gloom, despair and agony on me. . . .
Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2020 05:10 PM (Rvt88)
It's like my rescue godkitty. Over time, he has realized (by
repeat observation and actually being there) that the worst thing his
forever mama is going to do to him is dote on him a lot. But at first,
he was afraid of a lot of things.
Whatever
non-contrived demographic you pick, regardless of whatever they might
emote in public, probably most of them are kinda a little worried about
sh*t getting out of control, in a "sh*t just got real" sense. My guess
is that there are perhaps a plurality of such people who may mentally
associate terrible things to Trump, but from 2017 until just before
Spring Training 2020, they were living in boom times in pretty much
every sense of the word and that's their safe space.
Living
in boom times essentially dissociates their paradigm political fears
from themselves -- it's abstract, not visceral. What's visceral is the
boom times. They need to go there and conclave there until they can
figure out how to make Shiny Happy People Land actually work without
going through the Burning Times. THESE people can't get there at this
time and they *won't* get there if they don't survive to the next
opportunity. They may hate Trump, they may loathe the mere mention of
his name, but are learning that the enemy of my enemy is not always my
friend, and the are getting that lesson, which they insisted they
wanted, good and hard. They want a do-over. They don't get a do-over
in "one-man-one-vote-one-time land" and they are realizing that.
Posted by: SFGoth at September 22, 2020 05:10 PM (KAi1n)
Saddleback College held a discussion on potential new mascots, so a student sent me the zoom link.
https://tinyurl.com/y5w9o4vv
Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at September 22, 2020 05:00 PM (FBrfY)
+++++++++++++
Good. For. Him. The shrews' reactions were worth it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 22, 2020 05:10 PM (hYcqw)
Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2020 05:09 PM (HrMC1)
I agree, but just reminding people that it isn't 32% in Q3, but 7.2%, which would equal 32% over a year.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at September 22, 2020 05:10 PM (sTnpX)
China really has him on a leash, don't they? They say, "Jump!" and he says, "Height depends on how many shoes you buy."
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He very big shit zoo.
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 22, 2020 05:10 PM (zvvCx)
I'm sorry; That sounds very hard.
Here is N.J.-at least for me- my more liberal friends don't mention politics and most of the people at church are Trump supporters or if not, don't plan to vote for Biden.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2020 05:10 PM (WkPC9)
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at September 22, 2020 05:10 PM (8eSmR)
Posted by: klaftern at September 22, 2020 05:10 PM (RuIsu)
Posted by: sound awake at September 22, 2020 05:10 PM (C4dh4)
Similar to my beagle. I let her out into my back yard for about a half hour. Then I stand at the patio door and yell "Treat!" She thinks about it, and if she feels like it, she stays out there and continues sniffing around for rabbits and squirrels.
Right now she's howling because she finished her dinner and wants to go out. Spoiled Rotten and it is all my fault.
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 22, 2020 05:04 PM (+lVUW)
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Hounds consider your yelling a suggestion, not an order.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2020 05:10 PM (mht8P)
I don't even know who you all are anymore.
Posted by: IP at September 22, 2020 05:11 PM (w9UC1)
Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2020 04:59 PM (jhZVv)
This definitely goes over the legal line if any advocacy for voting Dems was made prior by Bloomberg to or after paying off their fines...either political materials sent or communications making suggestions...even if not, then an implied quid pro quo argument can still be made given Bloomberg's political background and office holdings. The RNC should sue....
Posted by: Boswell at September 22, 2020 05:06 PM (w2LAm)
Yes, the RNC should sue. In the Florida courts.
At least we don't have the crazy liberal members on the FL SC we had in 2000.
DeSantis made over that court, big time.
Posted by: Marybeth at September 22, 2020 05:11 PM (4pK1/)
Granted, Wuhan-hysteria drove everything down like a rocket, but holy whack! A recovery like that? That doesn't take a decade to reach? Has to be historic.
But, yes, let's bring back Obamanomics, America. Let's deny the leadership its credit and support because OrangeManBad you're totally effin' insane.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at September 22, 2020 05:06 PM (HhXSr)
Obamanomics is old news. This is Sandy Cortezonomics. They put that face out there, now she's the chairman of the board, the head cheese, the grand poobah.
The choice is clear: Trump growth, or Cortez imposed austerity and confiscation?
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2020 05:11 PM (hku12)
Celebrities and athletes are known to endorse presidential candidates. LeBron James is taking that initiative a step further. LeBron and the Florida
https://t.co/dSjGbCqdJo?amp=1
11:20 AM Sep 22, 2020
Posted by: BetaCuck4Life
At least this hopelessly ChiCom-owned illiterate jackass is putting his own money where his mouth is.
He's still an asshole, but this is how a free society works.
Posted by: Sharkman at September 22, 2020 05:11 PM (BM2fS)
Well I hate to lose any Republicans in the Senate this election cycle, but after this she deserves to lose. And she's not really much of a loss.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2020 05:11 PM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2020 05:08 PM (AwPyG)
That's why they held us on telling us the results.
I think they'll be up to their usual tricks x100 this year--which is why we're being told to not expect the results for 'awhile."
Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2020 05:11 PM (HrMC1)
Why don't these people just get the fuck out of our country already?
Because they get their twisted kicks harassing/ attacking people and destroying property and can do so without being arrested and/or being held accountable for their actions?
Posted by: shibumi, cat wrangler on the prison planet at September 22, 2020 05:11 PM (ZCiJZ)
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 22, 2020 05:09 PM (oUCCe)
Well, then they would have to find someone else to abuse, and foreign governments tend to be much less tolerant of shit like this.
Posted by: Vanya at September 22, 2020 05:12 PM (BAsqb)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 22, 2020 05:12 PM (c8R0G)
@ClayTravis
An organization funded by LeBron James is texting Florida voters
asking if they know any convicted felons so LeBron can pay off their
fines, allowing them to vote.
LeBron Actively Looking to Pay Convicted Felons' Fines to Vote in Election - OutKick
Celebrities and athletes are known to endorse presidential
candidates. LeBron James is taking that initiative a step further.
LeBron and the Florida
Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at September 22, 2020 04:55 PM (FBrfY)
I really want to see Colby Covington beat the shit out of LaBastard
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 22, 2020 05:12 PM (lEMIS)
Posted by: Puddin Head
Saw a blurb pop up today that Michael Jordan is going to become a NASCAR team owner soon.
Probably "Fake Noose", but maybe true.
Posted by: Sharkman
He has dipped his toes in racing before. I recall he owned a AMA team (motorcycles). Not sure whatever came of it though.
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 22, 2020 05:12 PM (yXYv7)
Posted by: Zeera at September 22, 2020 05:12 PM (zUdXR)
Posted by: The Office of Ruth Bader-Ginsu at September 22, 2020 05:12 PM (8eSmR)
Posted by: Ha at September 22, 2020 05:12 PM (iINbI)
Artificial barriers to growth can be removed, and when they are, growth rises fairly quickly in a free society with property rights...only blue state dems continue to smother their economies with a Covid pillow.
Posted by: Boswell at September 22, 2020 05:09 PM (w2LAm)
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*looks at Federal Register*
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2020 05:12 PM (mht8P)
Huh.
Saw today that Columbia Sportswear is permanently closing it's downtown retail Seattle store.
Good move, Jenny and the little commie brats on the city council.
One more prime location retailer down. And the jobs. And the tax base.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 22, 2020 05:12 PM (sy5kK)
Celebrities and athletes are known to endorse presidential candidates. LeBron James is taking that initiative a step further. LeBron and the Florida
https://t.co/dSjGbCqdJo?amp=1
11:20 AM Sep 22, 2020
Posted by: BetaCuck4Life
At least this hopelessly ChiCom-owned illiterate jackass is putting his own money where his mouth is.
He's still an asshole, but this is how a free society works.
Posted by: Sharkman at September 22, 2020 05:11 PM (BM2fS)
Actually, this should be considered buying votes. Is that not illegal? In a real world?
Posted by: Marybeth at September 22, 2020 05:13 PM (4pK1/)
Well I hate to lose any Republicans in the Senate this election cycle, but after this she deserves to lose. And she's not really much of a loss.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2020 05:11 PM (Kpl3J)
The Oddest of Ducks, a Principled Fraud.
Posted by: tubal at September 22, 2020 05:13 PM (bCLt0)
Posted by: Sharkman at September 22, 2020 05:08 PM
Pretty sure he's still diminutive ...
Posted by: Mostly Peaceful Grognard at September 22, 2020 05:13 PM (b3x5S)
Posted by: Miklos, consulting his Doctpr of Political Science at September 22, 2020 05:13 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Ha at September 22, 2020 05:12 PM (iINbI)
++++++++++++
All of this is total bullshit. If this is the case, then there should be no reporting on returns until the SoS certifies.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 22, 2020 05:13 PM (hYcqw)
@abigailmarone
HUGE crowds in PA showing up for President Trump!
Pennsylvania is Trump country
https://tinyurl.com/y4vbs5l4
Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2020 05:13 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Ha at September 22, 2020 05:12 PM (iINbI)
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Cialis can help.
Posted by: Axeman at September 22, 2020 05:13 PM (Eicbe)
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2020 05:11 PM (Kpl3J)
She's in trouble in Maine and will need a boost from the base. I think she'll change her tune.
Posted by: DNC at September 22, 2020 05:13 PM (H8QX8)
Because they would rather destroy it and build a communist nation-state. With them at the helm, of course.
Believe me, there will be plenty of voters who see the GDP projection and still vote for Biden, because reasons.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 22, 2020 05:13 PM (AFSld)
Posted by: Wasting Your Time, One Comment at a Time at September 22, 2020 05:14 PM (UBI+p)
Posted by: Jmel at September 22, 2020 04:57 PM (bVhJi)
__________
I think even the Iranian mullahs a Muslim Brotherhood no longer want to have anything to do with the once-and-future 12th Imam, now globally acknowledged as the one true ShitMidas.
Posted by: ShainS at September 22, 2020 05:14 PM (bFfr9)
When China says jump, you jump.
Posted by: t-bird at September 22, 2020 05:14 PM (8eSmR)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 22, 2020 05:12 PM (c8R0G)
He's a multimillionaire imbecile athlete who is good and bouncing a ball and literally nothing else.
Posted by: Vanya at September 22, 2020 05:14 PM (BAsqb)
Ahh, straight from your average 6 year old's "if I don't get what I want, I'm going on strike" playbook.
Schumer isn't the brightest politician in the Senate.
Posted by: Boswell at September 22, 2020 05:14 PM (w2LAm)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2020 05:10 PM (WkPC9)
Some of the "soft" Democrat voters in NJ will be going for Trump.
Not enough to turn the state though--barring a Black Swan event
Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2020 05:14 PM (HrMC1)
Well I hate to lose any Republicans in the Senate this election cycle, but after this she deserves to lose. And she's not really much of a loss.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2020 05:11 PM (Kpl3J)
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I guess she assumes that her state is a blue state, so she'll just appeal to those who live in Augusta, or something.
No need to appeal to the conservatives of the state at all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 22, 2020 05:14 PM (UWqZJ)
>>Probably "Fake Noose", but maybe true.
Nope, true.
Guess who his driver is going to be.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 22, 2020 05:14 PM (ZLI7S)
And they don't speak GDP around the kitchen table.
Posted by: mnw at September 22, 2020 05:14 PM (Cssks)
One of the Portland alt-weeklies decided to raise some money by having a panel of some of the brave pro-Antifa "journalists" facing off against the evil fascist cops.
They forgot to include any black people on the panel.
Oops - end of panel.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 22, 2020 05:14 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: tubal at September 22, 2020 05:14 PM (bCLt0)
Wait a minute. What makes him so sure they're going to vote D?
HAHAHAH! I slay myself sometimes.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 22, 2020 05:14 PM (VikfB)
Well I hate to lose any Republicans in the Senate this election cycle, but after this she deserves to lose. And she's not really much of a loss.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2020 05:11 PM (Kpl3J)
If I recall correctly, she is one of those gals for whom no doesn't always mean no.
No at this point just means you haven't yet hit the right bell or button.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 22, 2020 05:14 PM (hku12)
@ClayTravis
An organization funded by LeBron James is texting Florida voters asking if they know any convicted felons so LeBron can pay off their fines, allowing them to vote.
LeBron Actively Looking to Pay Convicted Felons' Fines to Vote in Election - OutKick
Celebrities and athletes are known to endorse presidential candidates. LeBron James is taking that initiative a step further. LeBron and the Florida
https://t.co/dSjGbCqdJo?amp=1
11:20 AM Sep 22, 2020
Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at September 22, 2020 04:55 PM (FBrfY)
Bloomberg doing the same in Florida. It's non-white felons. I have no idea how this is legal.
Posted by: Garrett's Tackle Box at September 22, 2020 05:15 PM (BaQol)
This is such bullshit. A judge ruled it legal in PA in defiance of the laws on the books. The Dems are going to steal the election with the judiciary's assistance.
You want to change it? Put it to a vote. This backdoor garbage is nonsense.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 22, 2020 05:15 PM (AFSld)
Probably "Fake Noose", but maybe true.
Posted by: Sharkman
He has dipped his toes in racing before. I recall he owned a AMA team (motorcycles). Not sure whatever came of it though.
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 22, 2020 05:12 PM (yXYv7)
Cuz Bubba.
Posted by: golfman at September 22, 2020 05:15 PM (hOMhY)
Posted by: Amy Coby Bryant at September 22, 2020 05:15 PM (ufJfM)
Is there a significant difference?
Yes, they are the same.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 22, 2020 05:15 PM (/Dgcm)
Trump won ME-2. First GOP EV in New England since Poppy.
Except I believe Trump did win NH and that one was stolen.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 22, 2020 05:15 PM (jbF6h)
I know someone who lives in greater Seattle. She's completely unconcerned about this, and sees it as Seattle's problem.
Not sure what her opinion will be when her taxes go up and her property value goes down.
Posted by: shibumi, cat wrangler on the prison planet at September 22, 2020 05:16 PM (ZCiJZ)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 22, 2020 05:12 PM (c8R0G)
Other than Donald Trump or Laura Ingraham, nobody has ever stood up to him in his entire life.
And he has F You money up the ying yang. So nobody will.
Life can be a bitch when you are forced to learn humility at such a late stage in life.
Most learn it before they turn 12.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 22, 2020 05:16 PM (sy5kK)
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Because of all the prosperity to re-distribute.
Posted by: Axeman at September 22, 2020 05:16 PM (Eicbe)
Good ol' Susan Collins say's she'll vote "No" on the nominee, no matter who it is.
Well I hate to lose any Republicans in the Senate this election
cycle, but after this she deserves to lose. And she's not really much
of a loss.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2020 05:11 PM (Kpl3J)
She is doing this to try and hang on to her seat. She is locked in a very difficult reelection bid. But I'm with you, losing this seat won't make a difference because she was rarely there when we needed her anyways.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 22, 2020 05:16 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: Ha at September 22, 2020 05:12 PM (iINbI)
Trump/Republicans need to shut this shit down now in all of these states who have decided to rewrite election laws.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 22, 2020 05:16 PM (lEMIS)
Posted by: USNtakim at September 22, 2020 05:16 PM (zjMWv)
Posted by: Ha at September 22, 2020 05:12 PM (iINbI)
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These partisan hack Judges are being obtuse. Virtually all ballots are being mailed locally except maybe for military ballets. The delivery for local is 1 day, two max.
Posted by: WisRich at September 22, 2020 05:16 PM (G0vdT)
Bubba Smolett, but it won't mean anything. A new race team won't have the goods to be consistent every week, and Wallace is an average driver at best.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 22, 2020 05:17 PM (AFSld)
Since "Kill Capitalism" is their code, then may they enjoy the hellscape that's coming. My only hope is that when everyone with capital leaves, these criminal brats be contained within their Utopia never to be permitted exit.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at September 22, 2020 05:17 PM (HhXSr)
Posted by: Florida Man at September 22, 2020 05:17 PM (FM/MR)
Some news about Trump supporters in MA. You're not alone.
He won't win the state (won't win N.J. either) but you're not alone:
https://tinyurl.com/y352jf9j
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2020 05:17 PM (WkPC9)
https://tinyurl.com/yysw4qxd
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
I'll bet the man, whose last name is Moses, will be sitting on his porch tonight fully loaded, waiting for the idiots to try something.
*singing . . . *
"Claymores in the hedges . . .
Bofors on the roof . . .
Here I sit a rockin' . . .
Waiting for the poofs . . .
Let my people goooooooo . . . "
Posted by: Sharkman at September 22, 2020 05:17 PM (BM2fS)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2020 05:10 PM (mht8P)
Truth.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 22, 2020 05:17 PM (Ovx84)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2020 05:17 PM (pmcmT)
Posted by: Marcus T at September 22, 2020 05:17 PM (e1mwr)
Posted by: USNtakim at September 22, 2020 05:17 PM (zjMWv)
Pennsylvania is Trump country
Wait, didn't Allahpundit and Henry Enten just assure me that Trump was being destroyed by Gibbering Joe in PA by 9 points? These people are from Mississippi....
Posted by: Boswell at September 22, 2020 05:18 PM (w2LAm)
China really has him on a leash, don't they? They say, "Jump!" and he says, "Height depends on how many shoes you buy."
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at September 22, 2020 05:09
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Dementia Joe Biden is in the back pocket of China...
Biden would push for less US reliance on nukes for defense
https://t.co/RduLCPdGx4?amp=1
Democrat Joe Biden leaves little doubt that if elected he would try to scale back President Donald Trump's buildup in nuclear weapons spending. And although the former vice president has not fully detailed his nuclear priorities, he says he would make the U.S. less reliant on the world's deadliest weapons.
China, whose relatively small nuclear force is growing in sophistication, is cited by the Pentagon's top nuclear commander as a leading reason why the United States should go all out on nuclear modernization.
Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at September 22, 2020 05:18 PM (FBrfY)
Because they would rather destroy it and build a communist nation-state. With them at the helm, of course.
Believe me, there will be plenty of voters who see the GDP projection and still vote for Biden, because reasons.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 22, 2020 05:13 PM (AFSld)
Exactly. It's cute how some people think a National Divorce would help.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 22, 2020 05:18 PM (831Uv)
Forecasts with four significant figures.
I guess that is how they got the name.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 22, 2020 05:18 PM (/Dgcm)
3:56 PM Sep 17, 2020
Posted by: BetaCuck4Life
LOL!!
Alright, which one of you morons did this??!!!
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 22, 2020 05:07 PM (yXYv7)
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Well, for the commenter who's nic is "will pic a nic later" I might have a novel suggestion for you!
Posted by: Chin music at September 22, 2020 05:18 PM (xgaFC)
Posted by: Ha at September 22, 2020 05:12 PM (iINbI)
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The real kicker is that these Judges and election committees think they can just make new laws as they fit.
Posted by: WisRich at September 22, 2020 05:18 PM (G0vdT)
Posted by: golfman at September 22, 2020 05:18 PM (hOMhY)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2020 05:18 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Chin music at September 22, 2020 05:19 PM (xgaFC)
Posted by: USNtakim at September 22, 2020 05:17 PM (zjMWv)
That is an, odd, transmorgrification, even for autocucumber.
Posted by: tubal at September 22, 2020 05:19 PM (bCLt0)
@ClayTravis
An organization funded by LeBron James is texting Florida voters asking if they know any convicted felons so LeBron can pay off their fines, allowing them to vote.
LeBron Actively Looking to Pay Convicted Felons' Fines to Vote in Election - OutKick
Celebrities and athletes are known to endorse presidential candidates. LeBron James is taking that initiative a step further. LeBron and the Florida
Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at September 22, 2020 04:55 PM (FBrfY)
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To late, Bloomberg beat him to it:
DM
Is Bloomberg trying to buy the Florida vote? Billionaire pays off more than $20m in debt for 31,000 felons so they can vote in the state where just 537 votes decided the presidential election in 2000.
Posted by: WisRich at September 22, 2020 04:58 PM (G0vdT)
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How is this not outright in-your-face proudly overt election fraud?
Paging Billy Bagpipes, please pick up the white privilege courtesy phone ...
Posted by: ShainS at September 22, 2020 05:19 PM (bFfr9)
Posted by: The Charlie Daniels of the Torque Wrench at September 22, 2020 05:19 PM (FM/MR)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2020 05:19 PM (rjE57)
Posted by: Marcus T at September 22, 2020 05:20 PM (e1mwr)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2020 05:17 PM (pmcmT)
What is the Saddest Alcohol???
Posted by: tubal at September 22, 2020 05:20 PM (bCLt0)
I know someone who lives in greater Seattle. She's completely unconcerned about this, and sees it as Seattle's problem.
Not sure what her opinion will be when her taxes go up and her property value goes down.
Posted by: shibumi, cat wrangler on the prison planet at September 22, 2020 05:16 PM (ZCiJZ)
What do you mean, tax base and property values are related? Nonsense!
Posted by: shibumi's Seattle friend at September 22, 2020 05:20 PM (sy5kK)
Yep, a bunch of people showed up with Massachusetts ID, and claimed that they were in the process of moving to New Hampshire, and were allowed to vote.
Very few of them actually turned in their Massachusetts ID to get New Hampshire ID after election day.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 22, 2020 05:20 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2020 05:18 PM (+y/Ru)
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And, named her oldest son Sue.
Posted by: Chin music at September 22, 2020 05:20 PM (xgaFC)
I thought that for a while, but it will never happen. They will give no quarter, and neither will we.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 22, 2020 05:20 PM (AFSld)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at September 22, 2020 05:21 PM (Hf7hU)
Celebrities and athletes are known to endorse presidential candidates. LeBron James is taking that initiative a step further. LeBron and the Florida
Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at September 22, 2020 04:55 PM (FBrfY)
Exactly my point way up there in the thread.
They know their base is shrinking. They need to buy or fraud out votes.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 22, 2020 05:21 PM (rjE57)
I would watch the Daytona 500 if they all had to drive on 24's.
Posted by: f'd at September 22, 2020 05:21 PM (+y8uL)
Posted by: tubal at September 22, 2020 05:20 PM (bCLt0)
It was Zima, but they went out of business.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 22, 2020 05:21 PM (1ISKN)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 22, 2020 05:21 PM (c8R0G)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 22, 2020 05:21 PM (di6nQ)
Posted by: Boswell at September 22, 2020 05:22 PM (w2LAm)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2020 05:17 PM (pmcmT)
What is the Saddest Alcohol???
Posted by: tubal at September 22, 2020 05:20 PM (bCLt0)
Cutty Sark
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 22, 2020 05:22 PM (6FeV1)
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at September 22, 2020 05:22 PM (iEx0u)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2020 05:18 PM (+y/Ru)
Well, the sonofabitch deserved it!
Posted by: ACB spokesperson at September 22, 2020 05:22 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: tubal at September 22, 2020 05:22 PM (bCLt0)
wiki
Posted by: t-bird at September 22, 2020 05:22 PM (KDCRD)
some of these swing states have lower-level judges ruling that ballots can be accepted after the deadline set forth in the state's OWN LAWS.
That's a problem--the judges can't decide its "such an emergency" that voting laws are suspended. It didn't work during the Civil War, and it shouldn't work now (and this is basically what the USSC decided in Bush v Gore--you can't make up voting law on the fly)
But I'll bet a dollar that a John Roberts court was going to uphold it, the same way they "upheld" the church restrictions recently. That decision was laying the groundwork so they could rule their hands were similarly tied when it came to means of voting
That's why RBG's death announcement is such a disaster for them, and that's what makes me think they didn't plan on it.
Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2020 05:22 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Backstabs and Betrayals 15% Off at t The Outrage Outlet! at September 22, 2020 05:22 PM (cZjDV)
Posted by: f'd at September 22, 2020 05:23 PM (+y8uL)
224 This just in. Amy Coney Barrett shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2020 05:18 PM (+y/Ru)
Well, the sonofabitch deserved it!
Posted by: ACB spokesperson at September 22, 2020 05:22 PM (sy5kK)
Yep. I heard he leaned on her car.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2020 05:23 PM (pmcmT)
Posted by: Durham at September 22, 2020 05:23 PM (AD14M)
Posted by: andycanuck at September 22, 2020 05:23 PM (an7Mv)
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at September 22, 2020 05:23 PM (0FRWt)
wiki
Posted by: t-bird at September 22, 2020 05:22 PM (KDCRD)
"... and the rest, she'd basically just fucking coast."
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 22, 2020 05:23 PM (6FeV1)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 22, 2020 05:23 PM (AFSld)
And what is the NYT's headline for this story?
"Some Protests Against Police Brutality Take a More Confrontational Approach"
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 22, 2020 05:01 PM (oVJmc)
How else do you think they were able to say that 93% of all "protests" were peaceful, and NOT riots?
hell, that study said that there were NO riots in seattle, home of CHOP.. let that sink in...
Posted by: SturmToddler at September 22, 2020 05:24 PM (+NdM9)
What is the Saddest Alcohol???
Posted by: tubal at September 22, 2020 05:20 PM (bCLt0)
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It's Pabst Blue Ribbon!
Posted by: Frank Booth at September 22, 2020 05:24 PM (TwUjY)
Well I hate to lose any Republicans in the Senate this election
cycle, but after this she deserves to lose. And she's not really much
of a loss.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2020 05:11 PM (Kpl3J)
She is doing this to try and hang on to her seat. She is locked in a very difficult reelection bid. But I'm with you, losing this seat won't make a difference because she was rarely there when we needed her anyways.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
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Fuck her, I hope she loses.
Trump came within like 1% of winning Maine in 2016, it's not like her state is Massachusetts or something.
You think ANY Democrat would announce an automatic "no" for their Democrat President, even in the reddest of states?
Posted by: Blago at September 22, 2020 05:24 PM (gkdnV)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Backstabs and Betrayals 15% Off at t The Outrage Outlet! at September 22, 2020 05:24 PM (cZjDV)
Ahhhh!
Ha haaaa!
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 22, 2020 05:24 PM (AFSld)
I got much more confident about Pennsylvania when I saw the Amish folks with Trump banners on their buggies.
The Amish, for Pete's sake.
I don't remember EVER seeing Amish get involved in political campaigns before.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 22, 2020 05:24 PM (VikfB)
Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2020 05:24 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: aelfheld at September 22, 2020 05:24 PM (IxDhF)
Posted by: Gilded at September 22, 2020 05:24 PM (BRkq2)
Posted by: tubal at September 22, 2020 05:20 PM (bCLt0)
Slivovic works for me.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 22, 2020 05:24 PM (c8R0G)
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 22, 2020 05:25 PM (WF/xn)
256 I'm waiting for Pennsylvania to decree no in-person voting the weekend before the election, so those of us who will vote in person lose our rights.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 22, 2020 05:23 PM (AFSld)
My bet is that will be a priority when they next seize power.
Posted by: tubal at September 22, 2020 05:25 PM (bCLt0)
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at September 22, 2020 05:25 PM (1Dmt5)
Posted by: IP at September 22, 2020 05:25 PM (w9UC1)
The irony being "Amish Dude" is NeverTrump.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 22, 2020 05:25 PM (AFSld)
Posted by: Blago at September 22, 2020 05:24 PM (gkdnV)
Never. And that is what is so maddening about the GOP.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 22, 2020 05:25 PM (Ez6QX)
Posted by: Weasel at September 22, 2020 05:25 PM (3cwui)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 22, 2020 05:23 PM (AFSld)
My three mail-in ballot applications were thrown in the fire pit.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 22, 2020 05:25 PM (Ovx84)
the saddest alcohol is Valu-Rite
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 22, 2020 05:25 PM (WF/xn)
Ripple.
Posted by: Boones Farm at September 22, 2020 05:25 PM (pmcmT)
That's why the Civil War was going to happen even if the southern states had been allowed to secede in peace. Sooner or later, the two nations would brawl. See Korea.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at September 22, 2020 05:26 PM (HmZuC)
I put nothing past Tom Wolf. Probably the third worst governor in America.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 22, 2020 05:26 PM (AFSld)
Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2020 05:22 PM (AwPyG)
They knew she was dead. Just didn't think anyone else would figure it out.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 22, 2020 05:26 PM (/Dgcm)
I don't remember EVER seeing Amish get involved in political campaigns before.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 22, 2020 05:24 PM (VikfB)
Hate to be That Guy, but they didn't. That was wayyy overblown on righty sites. That parade was organized by Bikers For Trump. A *few* buggies with what *may* have been Amish in them joined the parade.
The good news is, anecdotal evidence shows some Amish shy vote - if they can keep their bishops from finding out.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 22, 2020 05:26 PM (jbF6h)
The walls are closing in...
Posted by: Durham at September 22, 2020 05:23 PM (AD14M)
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I bet your couldn't be any happier with the timing of the passing of RBG, could you? Spotlight is a little less bright at the moment?
Posted by: Chin music at September 22, 2020 05:26 PM (xgaFC)
I've received countless texts saying the ballot I asked for is coming. There will be shenanigans in this election; now more than ever.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 22, 2020 05:27 PM (AFSld)
Posted by: f'd at September 22, 2020 05:27 PM (+y8uL)
200 million have died of the wuhan and 150 have died of gun violence. We have a population of -50 million. No one left to lock down is hampering policy.
Posted by: RapeyJoe at September 22, 2020 05:27 PM (BRkq2)
That's why the Civil War was going to happen even if the southern states had been allowed to secede in peace. Sooner or later, the two nations would brawl. See Korea.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at September 22, 2020 05:26 PM (HmZuC)
Technically the south kicked off that one (and had made preparations in advance like moving federal armories to locations where they could easily be seized). But yeah, even in amicable parting would've eventually had one side conquer the other.
Posted by: Someguy at September 22, 2020 05:28 PM (Zm+LZ)
Posted by: Boones Farm at September 22, 2020 05:25 PM (pmcmT)
+++++++++++
Nah, you just have to mix it with champagne. We call it "Champipple."
Posted by: Fred Sanford at September 22, 2020 05:28 PM (hYcqw)
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 22, 2020 05:25 PM (WF/xn)
Ripple.
Posted by: Boones Farm at September 22, 2020 05:25 PM (pmcmT)
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MD 20/20
Posted by: Chin music at September 22, 2020 05:28 PM (xgaFC)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 22, 2020 05:28 PM (952Dm)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 22, 2020 05:28 PM (jbF6h)
Posted by: Marybeth
Well, there's no stipulation that they have to vote for Democrats. So not vote buying.
The Dems may be surprised by the results of this. Just unleashed 31000 felons, not all of whom are black, the majority of whom may be beneficiaries of Trump's criminal justice reform efforts, and may vote more for him in Florida than they will for the Dems.
The underlying assumption is, of course, that all these felons are minorities and will vote Dem, but the reality may be different.
We'll see.
Posted by: Sharkman at September 22, 2020 05:28 PM (BM2fS)
The Amish, for Pete's sake.
I don't remember EVER seeing Amish get involved in political campaigns before.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 22, 2020 05:24
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They were there in 2016.
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/
donald-trump-amish-voters-223669
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at September 22, 2020 05:28 PM (iEx0u)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 22, 2020 05:28 PM (AFSld)
Posted by: f'd at September 22, 2020 05:29 PM (+y8uL)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2020 05:29 PM (+y/Ru)
This just in: Amy Coney Barrett told me NOT to have an abortion and said I was NOT gay!!!
-random female DNC voter
Posted by: shibumi, cat wrangler on the prison planet at September 22, 2020 05:29 PM (ZCiJZ)
MUMR actually just made a good point.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 22, 2020 05:28 PM (jbF6h)
lol. thats what I thought.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2020 05:29 PM (pmcmT)
Kill yourself in a brutal painful way while there's still time. Record it so I can burp bourbon and launch farts from hot BBQ To your death screams.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at September 22, 2020 05:29 PM (0FRWt)
Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2020 05:29 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: tubal at September 22, 2020 05:29 PM (bCLt0)
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This applies 10x to women. Not what they say, what they do.
Posted by: Gilded, believing his lying eyes, but TV knows better at September 22, 2020 05:29 PM (BRkq2)
Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2020 05:30 PM (OjZpE)
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at September 22, 2020 05:30 PM (0FRWt)
Posted by: Droolin' Joe Biden! at September 22, 2020 05:30 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: IP at September 22, 2020 05:30 PM (w9UC1)
Posted by: pookysgirl, doing a wicked guitar solo at September 22, 2020 05:30 PM (XKZwp)
Posted by: Garrett's Tackle Box
See, that right there is racist as fuck. And it would seem to be illegal, but there's nothing saying that LeBronie James can't be a racist cocksucker.
Posted by: Sharkman at September 22, 2020 05:30 PM (BM2fS)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 22, 2020 05:30 PM (jbF6h)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 22, 2020 05:30 PM (1ISKN)
Posted by: Someguy
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I don't think it would have been any different than living next to Canada. It could have worked, the US could have easily conquered its neighbors but we haven't.
Posted by: Blago at September 22, 2020 05:30 PM (gkdnV)
8% is huge, its astounding. 15% is unthinkable. 30% or higher is something people joke about, its something you make up in some book about a mary sue who saves the country. Its not even in the realm of consideration in any discussions.
I don't even know what to say here.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2020 05:31 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 22, 2020 05:28 PM (952Dm)
Something something " in life there are no coincidences".
Posted by: tubal at September 22, 2020 05:31 PM (bCLt0)
"What is the Saddest Alcohol??? "
Mouthwash with lime in it.
Uh, I read that somewhere.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at September 22, 2020 05:30 PM (0FRWt)
Romilar.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2020 05:31 PM (pmcmT)
Posted by: Sock Monkey.. too many commies not enough ammo at September 22, 2020 05:31 PM (504lt)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 22, 2020 05:31 PM (jbF6h)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
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Bush Jr's second election
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 22, 2020 05:32 PM (kA3Cp)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Backstabs and Betrayals 15% Off at t The Outrage Outlet! at September 22, 2020 05:32 PM (cZjDV)
Posted by: Old Blue at September 22, 2020 05:33 PM (VNmG1)
"What is the Saddest Alcohol??? "
Mouthwash with lime in it.
Uh, I read that somewhere.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at September 22, 2020 05:30 PM (0FRWt)
Romilar.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 22, 2020 05:31 PM (pmcmT)"
I also read that one is a little harder to pull ofF nowadays.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at September 22, 2020 05:33 PM (0FRWt)
Trump called it.
"WE MUST SHUT DOWN THE ECONOMY -- ER I MEAN TO SAVE LIVES, NOW!"
--Every Democrat
Seriously if this was under the Obama administration they press would be calling for the 22nd amendment and dynamiting Mt Rushmore to only show Obama's face
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2020 05:33 PM (KZzsI)
Well, we did bite off a pretty good chunk of Mexico. The good part.
And we won (more or less) the Oregon Boundary Dispute, although that didn't involve a lot of shooting (a few sporadic incidents, as I recall).
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 22, 2020 05:33 PM (VikfB)
Posted by: Sock Monkey.. too many commies not enough ammo at September 22, 2020 05:33 PM (504lt)
Posted by: Lady in Black at September 22, 2020 05:33 PM (O+I8R)
Posted by: Axeman at September 22, 2020 05:33 PM (Eicbe)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2020 05:33 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: I'm Tucker Carlson and I will destroy you at September 22, 2020 05:34 PM (8l1ux)
Posted by: Old Blue at September 22, 2020 05:33 PM (VNmG1)
Congratulations. Fun gun, relatively cheap to shoot. Potentially useful too.
Posted by: tubal at September 22, 2020 05:34 PM (bCLt0)
Posted by: mnw at September 22, 2020 05:34 PM (Cssks)
Posted by: Someguy
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I don't think it would have been any different than living next to Canada. It could have worked, the US could have easily conquered its neighbors but we haven't.
Posted by: Blago at September 22, 2020 05:30 PM (gkdnV)
There's geographic divides. Aside from the coasts(which have large mountain ranges cutting them off), most of the US is what you'd expect a country to look like. Large regions with few stumbling blocks are typically united by would-be conquerors over short time frames.
Posted by: Someguy at September 22, 2020 05:35 PM (Zm+LZ)
Posted by: Axeman at September 22, 2020 05:35 PM (Eicbe)
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Mail-Order Romulan Ale...in this world.
Posted by: Axeman at September 22, 2020 05:33 PM (Eicbe)
The $500 of wine on top of the $300 dinner that does not get you laid.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 22, 2020 05:36 PM (s2VJv)
Posted by: Piratepatch at September 22, 2020 05:36 PM (M/MYP)
Posted by: Old Blue at September 22, 2020 05:33 PM (VNmG1)
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Congratulations Old Blue!
Posted by: Weasel at September 22, 2020 05:36 PM (3cwui)
Posted by: Ha at September 22, 2020 05:12 PM (iINbI)
Trump/Republicans need to shut this shit down now in all of these states who have decided to rewrite election laws.
Posted by: TheQuietMan
All of the state rulings I've seen is that they are stretching the limits on how long after the election they can count the ballots that they've already received. I've not seen a ruling that says they can keep counting ballots RECEIVED for weeks after the election. An important distinction.
Remember, in Michigan in 2016, Jill Stein called for a complete audit of the ballots that were cast.
The DemonRats shut that shit down fast, once all the fraudulent ballots started being revealed.
Trump's crew will make sure to call or a complete impound of all ballots cast on election day, a complete accounting of every single box of ballots that arrive after 11/3, and call for recounts of all ballots received AFTER the election.
There is a way to beat this ballot harvesting shit. You have to have boots on the ground in every single precinct and be willing to stay and count until your fingers fall off.
Posted by: Sharkman at September 22, 2020 05:36 PM (BM2fS)
Mouthwash with lime in it.
Sterno
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2020 05:33 PM (KZzsI)
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Rubbing Alcohol?
Posted by: TexasDan at September 22, 2020 05:36 PM (yL25O)
Amy Coney Barrett was the mastermind behind Epstein and Ghislaine's breeder ranch out in NM or AZ or wherever it was.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion, etc, etc at September 22, 2020 05:36 PM (rCwaK)
Posted by: Axeman at September 22, 2020 05:37 PM (Eicbe)
The $500 of wine on top of the $300 dinner that does not get you laid.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 22, 2020 05:36 PM (s2VJv)
Now THAT is sad!! Philip Roth Novel Sad.
Posted by: tubal at September 22, 2020 05:37 PM (bCLt0)
Well, we did bite off a pretty good chunk of Mexico. The good part.
And we won (more or less) the Oregon Boundary Dispute, although that didn't involve a lot of shooting (a few sporadic incidents, as I recall).
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 22, 2020 05:33 PM (VikfB)
Fifty-four Forty or Fight!!!!!!!
Posted by: Gref at September 22, 2020 05:37 PM (AMIL/)
And we won (more or less) the Oregon Boundary Dispute, although that didn't involve a lot of shooting (a few sporadic incidents, as I recall).
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
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Much of that was just wide open nothing that other countries claimed, but didn't really have any population living in them.
Had there been say a CSA and USA as two functional countries, I don't think one would have invaded the other. I'm sure though land out west would have been an issue of contention.
Posted by: Blago at September 22, 2020 05:37 PM (gkdnV)
What is the Saddest Alcohol???
Mouthwash with lime in it.
Sterno
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2020 05:33 PM (KZzsI)
Zima
Corona with a fruit in it. (seriously, if you have to put a fruit in it to make it taste good, why drink it?)
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 22, 2020 05:37 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at September 22, 2020 05:37 PM (3AD8C)
We could move 1st AD out of Hood and across Mexico so fast we'd be drinking tequila in Chicomucelo morning.
And nobody wants Canada and their shitty beer. We already took the good parts.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at September 22, 2020 05:38 PM (0FRWt)
2) Yes
Posted by: mnw at September 22, 2020 05:34 PM (Cssks)
If the question is what Blago asked, then 1.
The Dems never take sides against the family, while the GOP are only too happy to "reach across the aisle" or whatever bullshit term they are using nowadays.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 22, 2020 05:38 PM (Ez6QX)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 22, 2020 05:38 PM (c8R0G)
Posted by: redridinghood at September 22, 2020 05:38 PM (+YYKs)
Wow; Nobody has ever spent $500.00 on wine on me on top of a $300.00 dinner. They must not have wanted to get laid that badly.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2020 05:38 PM (WkPC9)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at September 22, 2020 05:39 PM (sTnpX)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2020 05:39 PM (63Dwl)
What is the Saddest Alcohol???
Mouthwash with lime in it.
Sterno
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2020 05:33 PM (KZzsI)
Zima
Corona with a fruit in it. (seriously, if you have to put a fruit in it to make it taste good, why drink it?)
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 22, 2020 05:37 PM (N39Ws)
Tequiza
Posted by: Quilters Irish Death at September 22, 2020 05:39 PM (CjHGv)
@@@@
And then she smothered RBG with a pillow or something
Posted by: Piratepatch at September 22, 2020 05:39 PM (M/MYP)
China, whose relatively small nuclear force is growing in sophistication, is cited by the Pentagon's top nuclear commander as a leading reason why the United States should go all out on nuclear modernization.
Posted by: BetaCuck4Life
Hey, Joe. "Imagine the world without nuclear weapons!"
I have: That's September 1, 1939 to August 2, 1945. 65,000,000 human beings murdered in the most horrifying ways possible. Entire continents laid waste. How was that stopped? Nukes.
Posted by: Sharkman at September 22, 2020 05:39 PM (BM2fS)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 22, 2020 05:38 PM (c8R0G)
AND, she was prolific. Coney prolific.
Posted by: tubal at September 22, 2020 05:39 PM (bCLt0)
Posted by: USNtakim at September 22, 2020 05:40 PM (zjMWv)
Wow; Nobody has ever spent $500.00 on wine on me on top of a $300.00 dinner. They must not have wanted to get laid that badly.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2020 05:38 PM (WkPC9)
Right? Although I was married before I was old enough to drink.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 22, 2020 05:40 PM (Ez6QX)
You have to have boots on the ground in every single precinct and be
willing to stay and count until your fingers fall off.
Posted by: Sharkman at September 22, 2020 05:36 PM (BM2fS)
A judge in Wisconsin rewrote the elections laws on his own yesterday. The MFM even said he gave the Dems everything they wanted. But he put it on a hold for week because he said he knows it will be appealed. He knows it's bullshit but is trying to get away with it any way. These SOBs need a stomp down.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 22, 2020 05:40 PM (lEMIS)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 22, 2020 05:40 PM (c8R0G)
And nobody wants Canada and their shitty beer. We already took the good parts.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at September 22, 2020 05:38 PM (0FRWt)
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We just need their Strategic Maple Syrup Reserve.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2020 05:40 PM (mht8P)
There is a reason Canada got it's independence in 1867. The US, with 2.5 million battlehardened veterans was starting to look north the way a pride of lions looks at a herd of gazelle.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2020 05:40 PM (yQpMk)
345 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 22, 2020 05:36 PM (s2VJv)
Wow; Nobody has ever spent $500.00 on wine on me on top of a $300.00 dinner. They must not have wanted to get laid that badly.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2020 05:38 PM (WkPC9)
Lol! Do our Baptist potlucks count as a date???
Posted by: tubal at September 22, 2020 05:40 PM (bCLt0)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 22, 2020 05:40 PM (mht8P)
Our soldiers and sailors still regularly raid the eastern parts in search of beaver.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at September 22, 2020 05:41 PM (sTnpX)
Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2020 05:41 PM (HwiWi)
Posted by: washrivergal at September 22, 2020 05:41 PM (66BnU)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2020 05:42 PM (WkPC9)
For some reason, I want to say "Amy Conan Barrett". I don't know how many times I've said that.
Anyway, the self-posted twitter video meltdowns of the lunatic leftie white women will be epic when Conan the Barrett is confirmed.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion, etc, etc at September 22, 2020 05:42 PM (rCwaK)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 22, 2020 05:42 PM (jbF6h)
Posted by: TheQuietMan
It's total shit. You know, I could give a rat's ass if they want to pull this garbage for state elections. But not ones that involve my ass. They follow the rules other states follow in a national election, period.
Posted by: clutch cargo at September 22, 2020 05:42 PM (8B6Ng)
Would YOU want Mexico or Canada? Believe me, we got the best part of this continent.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at September 22, 2020 05:42 PM (HmZuC)
My sad wine tale is NOT based on me. But these things have happened.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 22, 2020 05:42 PM (s2VJv)
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at September 22, 2020 05:43 PM (0FRWt)
My sad wine tale is NOT based on me. But these things have happened.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 22, 2020 05:42 PM (s2VJv)
Uh- huh Sefton.
Posted by: tubal at September 22, 2020 05:43 PM (bCLt0)
I've heard of this movie, you went skinny dipping and some guy saw you?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2020 05:43 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 22, 2020 05:28 PM (952Dm)
It's your Doppleganger?
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 22, 2020 05:43 PM (yXYv7)
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Backstabs and Betrayals 15% Off at t The Outrage Outlet! at September 22, 2020 05:43 PM (cZjDV)
They have alcohol at Baptist pot lucks? I'm going to attend your church.
We are not allowed to have alcohol on our premises.Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2020 05:43 PM (WkPC9)
I've heard of this movie, you went skinny dipping and some guy saw you?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2020 05:43 PM (KZzsI)
Maybe it was a Rumspringa thing?
Posted by: tubal at September 22, 2020 05:44 PM (bCLt0)
Posted by: MSM at September 22, 2020 05:44 PM (LBiyC)
Posted by: demoncrat at September 22, 2020 05:44 PM (BIjej)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile
_____________________
It would have just died out on its own, just like it did with almost every European country. The UK had banned in the 1830's, it was a natural progression.
I don't buy into the idea the civil war was all about slavery. Eventually it would have been voted out.
Posted by: Blago at September 22, 2020 05:44 PM (gkdnV)
Posted by: Mfrs in the media at September 22, 2020 05:44 PM (/6GbT)
It is moot, though. We are where we are.
Posted by: trev006 at September 22, 2020 05:45 PM (x1d0Q)
They have alcohol at Baptist pot lucks? I'm going to attend your church. We are not allowed to have alcohol on our premises.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2020 05:43 PM (WkPC9)
Well actually the alcohol would have to be clandestine, Fen.
Posted by: tubal at September 22, 2020 05:45 PM (bCLt0)
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2020 05:11 PM (Kpl3J)
A Dem is a vote for Chucky Schemer for Majority Leader.
Posted by: Fox2! at September 22, 2020 05:45 PM (QGf75)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at September 22, 2020 05:45 PM (HmZuC)
Posted by: Archer at September 22, 2020 05:45 PM (BvloH)
Posted by: Diogenes at September 22, 2020 05:45 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile
_____________________
It would have just died out on its own, just like it did with almost every European country. The UK had banned in the 1830's, it was a natural progression.
I don't buy into the idea the civil war was all about slavery. Eventually it would have been voted out.
Posted by: Blago at September 22, 2020 05:44 PM (gkdnV)
The South was pretty clear about its cause for war being slavery. The North was also fairly clear about its cause for war being keep the union intact.
Slavery was a serious economic issue for the elite ruling class of the South. Buying them out might've been viable, anything else would've resulted in conflict.
Posted by: Someguy at September 22, 2020 05:45 PM (Zm+LZ)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 22, 2020 05:36 PM (s2VJv)
Heh...when I met Mrs Boswell, who had already been working for many years in an uptown law firm in NYC, let's just say her tastes were pretty refined and "expensive" for this Arkansas boy...she cost me a pretty penny wooing her. My eyes popped when she ordered the escargot and the fresh Maine lobster or Duck confit with goose pate...and the bottle of Iron Horse Chardonnay at Cafe de Artiste. Gawd, I'd still be paying off those dates right now with no love to show for it if I hadn't married my lady vendor....
Posted by: Boswell at September 22, 2020 05:45 PM (w2LAm)
I've heard of this movie, you went skinny dipping and some guy saw you?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2020 05:43 PM (KZzsI)
Maybe it was a Rumspringa thing?
Posted by: tubal at September 22, 2020 05:44 PM (bCLt0)
LOL, no. My husband & I met in high school. We graduated and got married. It's been almost 30 years now.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 22, 2020 05:46 PM (Ez6QX)
Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2020 05:46 PM (OjZpE)
Sadie Hawkins day, she chased down a fella and he couldn't get away
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 22, 2020 05:46 PM (KZzsI)
Girl: Yup.
Boy: Is she anything like you?
Girl: No.
Boy: Could you introduce me to her?
Posted by: I laughed at September 22, 2020 05:46 PM (hYcqw)
Posted by: washrivergal at September 22, 2020 05:41 PM (66BnU)
What I'm finding particularly depressing is that these stupid kids see it as a new and trendy fashion accessory.
Living in CA, all the clothing stores are still shuttered, but I have no doubt that there's plenty of high-fashion masks making their way to the catwalk at this very moment.
I've had several people comment on my mask, which really bums me out. A friend's daughter sewed it up for me, but damn, I'd burn it in a hot second - and hope I can. These things are never going away.
Nobody is allowed to die from Covid. The flu, TB, or any of a number of other deadly airborne pathogens not so much.
Posted by: clutch cargo at September 22, 2020 05:47 PM (8B6Ng)
Posted by: Megthered at September 22, 2020 05:47 PM (SM/op)
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at September 22, 2020 05:47 PM (0FRWt)
To quote Archie Bunker: you don't buy booze, you rent it.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at September 22, 2020 05:47 PM (HmZuC)
LOL, no. My husband & I met in high school. We graduated and got married. It's been almost 30 years now.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 22, 2020 05:46 PM (Ez6QX)
Good for you, Jordan. Not a commonplace anymore.
Posted by: tubal at September 22, 2020 05:47 PM (bCLt0)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2020 05:47 PM (Dc2NZ)
Posted by: Old Blue at September 22, 2020 05:33 PM (VNmG1)
Congratulations. Fun gun, relatively cheap to shoot. Potentially useful too.
Posted by: tubal at September 22, 2020 05:34 PM (bCLt0)
If you act fast you can get a case of SS109 from Midway.
And at only $580 it is a steal.
/lowest unit price for 5.56 on ammoseek just now
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 22, 2020 05:47 PM (/Dgcm)
Posted by: 40 miles north at September 22, 2020 05:48 PM (uWF4x)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy
Well, "Bader" in German is the "name for an attendant in a public bath house", so I would think something bunny-related would be okay.
Posted by: Sharkman at September 22, 2020 05:48 PM (BM2fS)
But I'll bet a dollar that a John Roberts court was going to uphold it, the same way they "upheld" the church restrictions recently. That decision was laying the groundwork so they could rule their hands were similarly tied when it came to means of voting
That's why RBG's death announcement is such a disaster for them, and that's what makes me think they didn't plan on it.
Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2020 05:22 PM (AwPyG)
Exactly why it is so important to get ACB online before Nov 3.
Roberts can't Call It A Tax.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 22, 2020 05:49 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at September 22, 2020 05:45 PM
Remember a few years back when Quebec was voting secession? And France was getting real interested?
Yeah
Posted by: Diogenes at September 22, 2020 05:49 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at September 22, 2020 05:49 PM (0FRWt)
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at September 22, 2020 05:49 PM (ExV1e)
Well, "Bader" in German is the "name for an attendant in a public bath house", so I would think something bunny-related would be okay.
Posted by: Sharkman at September 22, 2020 05:48 PM (BM2fS)
Barry " Bader" Obama???
Posted by: tubal at September 22, 2020 05:49 PM (bCLt0)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 22, 2020 05:49 PM (hYcqw)
attendant in a public bath house", so I would think something
bunny-related would be okay.
Posted by: Sharkman at September 22, 2020 05:48 PM (BM2fS)
Obama means attendant at a glory hole.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 22, 2020 05:50 PM (lEMIS)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 22, 2020 05:50 PM (YynYJ)
Posted by: x at September 22, 2020 05:51 PM (nFwvY)
Slavery was a serious economic issue for the elite ruling class of the South. Buying them out might've been viable, anything else would've resulted in conflict.
Posted by: Someguy
____________
All of this is wrong, but it's a nice fairy tale we keep hearing.
Lincoln in his first address
"I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so."
Posted by: Blago at September 22, 2020 05:51 PM (gkdnV)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 22, 2020 05:36 PM (s2VJv)
Wow; Nobody has ever spent $500.00 on wine on me on top of a $300.00 dinner. They must not have wanted to get laid that badly.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2020 05:38 PM (WkPC9)
For the record, I'm ashamed for what I did for just a Klondike bar.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 22, 2020 05:51 PM (N39Ws)
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Too much work.
All one needs to take over Canada is a large stash of Labatt's and some smokes.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 22, 2020 05:51 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Archer at September 22, 2020 05:51 PM (BvloH)
Posted by: washrivergal at September 22, 2020 05:51 PM (66BnU)
Posted by: Sharkman at September 22, 2020 05:48 PM (BM2fS)
Barry " Bader" Obama???
Posted by: tubal
Obama means attendant at a glory hole.
Posted by: TheQuietMan
The Horde Mind: It's A Thing.
Posted by: Sharkman at September 22, 2020 05:52 PM (BM2fS)
Posted by: Braenyard at September 22, 2020 05:52 PM (RKPlw)
"I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so."
The South didn't believe him.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2020 05:53 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: klaftern at September 22, 2020 05:54 PM (RuIsu)
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 22, 2020 05:40 PM
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Me too. But my wife wasn't. Not that I married for her for that fact.
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at September 22, 2020 05:55 PM (iEx0u)
Slavery was a serious economic issue for the elite ruling class of the South. Buying them out might've been viable, anything else would've resulted in conflict.
Posted by: Someguy
____________
All of this is wrong, but it's a nice fairy tale we keep hearing.
Lincoln in his first address
"I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so."
Posted by: Blago at September 22, 2020 05:51 PM (gkdnV)
That doesn't contradict what I said. See where I said the North's cause for war was keeping the union intact.
If you want to know the South's reasons for war, perhaps read what they declared as their reasons for secession/war? They weren't keeping it a secret.
Posted by: Someguy at September 22, 2020 05:55 PM (Zm+LZ)
Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2020 05:30 PM (OjZpE)
Skip, you have to get up in the morning.
Sundown doesn't have to get out of bed for a couple of days, as long as the speed and B-vitamin shots don't wear off first.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 22, 2020 05:56 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Someguy at September 22, 2020 05:45 PM (Zm+LZ)
Buying off slaveholders wouldn't have worked. It's like saying you can end gun ownership by buying out gun owners.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at September 22, 2020 05:57 PM (sTnpX)
Posted by: Someguy at September 22, 2020 05:55 PM (Zm+LZ)
The CSA constitution preamble
...life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, and slaves, lots and lots of slaves...
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 22, 2020 06:00 PM (/Dgcm)
I don't buy into the idea the civil war was all about slavery. Eventually it would have been voted out.
Posted by: Blago at September 22, 2020 05:44 PM (gkdnV)
Slavery ended in Europe because it was never fully part of the economy the way it was in the South, or in other parts of the world. The slave trade was largely Mediterrainean in nature, starting with the Greeks and Romans and shifting to the muslim countries. That's different than the South, where economic and cultural life centered around the cotton and tobacco economy. Slaves were an integral part of Southern society and you weren't going to get rid of them without massive disruption to the southern economic and political elite who profited off those industries.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at September 22, 2020 06:02 PM (sTnpX)
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at September 22, 2020 06:03 PM (1Dmt5)
Posted by: Blago at September 22, 2020 05:44 PM (gkdnV)
Machine work is a lot cheaper and efficient than manual labor. Slavery was on its way out.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 22, 2020 06:04 PM (RKPlw)
Posted by: PJ at September 22, 2020 06:08 PM (qlTN9)
Winning...(yawn).
Posted by: Sapwolf at September 22, 2020 06:11 PM (nuv3n)
That's why the Civil War was going to happen even if the southern states had been allowed to secede in peace. Sooner or later, the two nations would brawl. See Korea.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at September 22, 2020 05:26 PM (HmZuC)
Almost at once, likely enough. Causes for instant friction:
Fugitive Slaves would now have "Canada" hundreds of miles closer and no fugitive slave law requiring them be sent back.
The South wanted to expand into the Caribbean, basically at once. This would bump right into the Monroe Doctrine.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 22, 2020 06:24 PM (eoQWY)
"I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so."
The South didn't believe him.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 22, 2020 05:53 PM (yQpMk)
One trigger for the South was that Federal Mails were routinely searched by Southern states for anti-slavery information to suppress it. Come Lincoln, the spoils system would create many many jobs in the South for either imported or converted Republicans who would not violate Federal law to do this.
Once the Rs were planted in the South in any way, Slavery would be on the table in local politics.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 22, 2020 06:28 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Florida Man at September 22, 2020 05:17 PM (FM/MR)
The Economist is crap now, but they once called TX "the USA on steroids".
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 22, 2020 06:28 PM (4JLkY)
Posted by: Blago at September 22, 2020 05:44 PM (gkdnV)
Machine work is a lot cheaper and efficient than manual labor. Slavery was on its way out.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 22, 2020 06:04 PM (RKPlw)
Slavery was a solution to a social problem that took a century or more to work itself out without slavery. Even in 1860 you could see the difference in efficiency of North versus South, but they clung even harder to Slavery all the same.
It isn't always about the money,
Posted by: Oldcat at September 22, 2020 06:29 PM (eoQWY)
Slavery was a serious economic issue for the elite ruling class of the South. Buying them out might've been viable, anything else would've resulted in conflict.
Posted by: Someguy
____________
All of this is wrong, but it's a nice fairy tale we keep hearing.
Lincoln in his first address
"I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so."
Posted by: Blago at September 22, 2020 05:51 PM (gkdnV)
That doesn't contradict what I said. See where I said the North's cause for war was keeping the union intact.
If you want to know the South's reasons for war, perhaps read what they declared as their reasons for secession/war? They weren't keeping it a secret.
Posted by: Someguy at September 22, 2020 05:55 PM (Zm+LZ)
One of the compromise efforts before the war was to compensate for slaves. As Lincoln said, war is a lot more expensive.
It didn't go very far, as neither side was interested - the North didn't want to pay and the South wanted the slaves.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 22, 2020 06:32 PM (eoQWY)
I have: That's September 1, 1939 to August 2, 1945. 65,000,000 human beings murdered in the most horrifying ways possible. Entire continents laid waste. How was that stopped? Nukes.
Posted by: Sharkman at September 22, 2020 05:39 PM (BM2fS)
Nukes paired with a memory of what the war was like. For the next 40-50 years most countries were run by people who knew what even a conventional all out war would look like and wanted nothing to do with it.
But yes, nuclear weapons were absolutely helpful in that regard.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 22, 2020 06:36 PM (4JLkY)
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