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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd.aoshq at gee mail.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com | Saturday Gardening and Puttering Thread, August 8, 2020 [KT]80 year old bulbs (They were apparently planted when the house was built in 1941) and still going strong.The photo below is why they are also called "Naked Ladies". They bloom in the fall, when the plants are otherwise "dormant". No leaves. Best time to transplant them if you are going to do it. There is a similar Lycoris if you don't live on the arid West Coast. This batch was REALLY sweet. I felt like an addict after I washed out all the spiders. What is pickle powder?This was about a substance used to amend soil. But also to used pickles, maybe? Gordon also mentioned a battle with squash bugs. Here they are. The adults are much more dramatic. They really don't look like the same insects. Anybody else doing battle with them? Little white nymphs. I didn't see an adult but I found a lot of eggs on the underside of the zuke leaves. Treating with neem oil, diatomaceous earth and thumb & forefinger. A large hive of bees were quite upset when my tractor scoop knocked over their home.?? These pictures are the next day.?? The majority seem to be in that darker region below, with a large bunch higher up. Hard to say where the queen is ... but I ordered a couple hive boxes to offer them a better home.?? It arrives Thursday. Supplying good housing makes sense since honey bees are so important as pollinators * some honey might be a bonus. This is the third year for my deer resistant flower plot ... invaded by some chicory and red clover, for a ragged mix of color. Hi -- I don't know if this is good enough for the Garden Thread but wanted to share. Keep up all your good work! Carlotta at that g mail dot com place Include your nic unless you want to remain a lurker. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Love the pictures!
Posted by: CN at August 08, 2020 01:10 PM (ONvIw) 2
I found a cool old book on wildflowers dated 1900. Actually has color illustrations. It might be fun to boot up (deer ticks are plentiful) and see if I can find anything in sufficient quantity to transplant.
Posted by: CN at August 08, 2020 01:12 PM (ONvIw) 3
FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 08, 2020 01:15 PM (Zz0t1) 4
I have to fix the fence before I can start on the raised garden I want to put in.
Wife's cousin wanted $2500 for 80 ft of fence. I think I can do better. Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 08, 2020 01:16 PM (Zz0t1) 5
Computer acting dumb this week. Weird. How is everybody doing?
Posted by: KT at August 08, 2020 01:19 PM (BVQ+1) 6
Killing squash bugs is very easy. Pull up the plants and throw them in the green dumpster. No more squash bugs.
Posted by: huerfano at August 08, 2020 01:20 PM (9dnxb) 7
My hanging plants are wilting in this heat. Looking forward to more hardy mums.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at August 08, 2020 01:23 PM (CWMF2) 8
There's a place in France...
Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 08, 2020 01:24 PM (vuisn) 9
Hiya !
Posted by: JT at August 08, 2020 01:30 PM (arJlL) 10
Hiya KT !
Posted by: JT at August 08, 2020 01:30 PM (arJlL) 11
Pole bean is doing great. Hummers love the bright orange blossoms.
Posted by: Ronster at August 08, 2020 01:32 PM (90/c2) 12
Garden is doing great at casa OCiS. Green beans are coming in nicely, as are cherry tomatoes. Something got to my pepper plants and ate the tops of them. Neighbor thought they saw a whistle pig in my yard but I have yet to see it.Tons of blueberries in my blueberry bush garden. Peaches are starting to come in.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 08, 2020 01:36 PM (D3cJf) 13
Holee shite that kingfisher has a Nictitating membrane to protect it's eyes when diving into the water.
Watch the film as it rises out of the water with it's catch. (About the 20 second mark, the eye is silverish, then you can see it withdraw.) Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at August 08, 2020 01:39 PM (fBtlL) 14
update: My hive box arrived a day early, but that swarm that had formed a big ball had dispersed, apparently deciding to make move back under the same log. They were active but docile the next day, and I got a chunk of their honeycomb out from the log, and put it in the hive ... so far I can't see many bees entering.
I still have to review how it all works, but I think they will swarm around the queen and form that big ball, and a person can scoop them up with the bare hands at that point. I did that with a bee guy decades back ... a cool experience. He'd seen the swarm and had a box ready for us to collect them. I received some lemongrass oil yesterday, and added some drops to the hive. It is supposed to attract the bees. I can see another large chunk of honeycomb up under the log ... it is not very well protected ... I might just add a grate or something to protect it from the animals and elements, if I can't entice them into my nicer "condo" living. Honey would be a nice bonus, but I'm mostly interested in building the honey bee community "for the greater good". ("Greater Good" is fine when done by sovereign individuals, not some DC commie with a hidden agenda.) cheers to the growers ... Posted by: illiniwek at August 08, 2020 01:42 PM (Cus5s) 15
How did the photographer get that bird's activity underwater?
Posted by: kallisto at August 08, 2020 01:46 PM (DJFLF) Posted by: BignJames at August 08, 2020 01:48 PM (X/Pw5) 17
I am not a bee keeper but have one on speed dial ...
My back yard has two huge ficus trees and the cool / shade they provide attracts bees. But I live in AZ where bees keeping cool is a hive priority. So make sure your hive boxes are attractive with shade and a source of water (even a small drip, so no stagnant water or mosquitos). Best of luck... Posted by: Adriane the Critic ... at August 08, 2020 01:54 PM (LPnfS) 18
KT, bee - you - tee - full thread, as always ...
Posted by: Adriane the Critic ... at August 08, 2020 01:55 PM (LPnfS) 19
I like that top photo of the 80 year old bulbs. There is something extra appealing about flowers, or similar, that have lasted so long in such beauty. There are a few homes in our town that have old growth crepe myrtles, rhodos, and other bushes in that category. They were well established long before we moved here 36 years ago. Some of the crepes are two stories high and make a spectacular display every year.
Posted by: JTB at August 08, 2020 02:06 PM (7EjX1) 20
We have bees! Wasn't sure if I shouldn't rather send the photo to the pet thread!
Posted by: Guilded Age II at August 08, 2020 02:10 PM (BRkq2) 21
Hey gardening horde!
Tomatoes are starting to ripen... earlier than expected! But the bunnies are eating the lower ones.. gotta get some fencing up this weekend. Looks like it will be a good crop of cherry tomatoes. I am thinking of trying this: https://www.seriouseats.com/2018/08/roasted-tomato-raisins.html Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 08, 2020 02:11 PM (CjFDo) 22
Posted by: JTB at August 08, 2020 02:06 PM (7EjX1)
There's a group that travels the country looking for old home sites that have old roses to "rescue"... some varieties whose names have been forgotten and some that maybe were never named. Posted by: BignJames at August 08, 2020 02:12 PM (X/Pw5) 23
Our little crepe myrtle is finally blooming. Most of the crepes in our area have been in full display for a while but ours must be a very late blooming version. Considering it started as something the size of a pencil, it's a miracle it has survived our ministrations. It's either very tough, stubborn, or has a great sense of humor.
Posted by: JTB at August 08, 2020 02:16 PM (7EjX1) 24
Good afternoon Greenthumbs
Making use of 4 Anaheim peppers I had that I picked but even a week in the house wasn't doing anything to make them ripen, so making chile. Getting tomatoes every day and some cucumbers. Did see a jalapeno pepper turning so that's something. Something is getting bites out of some ground laying tomatoes but overwhelming whatever it is with so many they can't get them all. Posted by: Skip at August 08, 2020 02:16 PM (OjZpE) 25
Really enjoy the pics and captioning.
Posted by: socalcon at August 08, 2020 02:20 PM (Roy2Z) 26
22 ... There's a group that travels the country looking for old home sites that have old roses to "rescue"
That sounds so cool. I like the idea of preserving plants (except maybe kudzu and Russian olives) that haven proven themselves over many years. That would explain my interest, academic so far, in heirloom veggies. Posted by: JTB at August 08, 2020 02:22 PM (7EjX1) 27
17 I am not a bee keeper but have one on speed dial ...
My back yard has two huge ficus trees and the cool / shade they provide attracts bees. But I live in AZ where bees keeping cool is a hive priority. So make sure your hive boxes are attractive with shade and a source of water (even a small drip, so no stagnant water or mosquitos). Best of luck... Posted by: Adriane the Critic ... at August 08, 2020 01:54 PM (LPnfS) === Yes, they need shade and water! And we love it when people call with random swarm. They love live oaks too. What people may not realize if that your own hives will swarm every year so you have to recollect them on a regular basis. Something something a queen bee will not tolerate a rival. And a new queen on the scene will pirate admirers. Posted by: Guilded Age II at August 08, 2020 02:22 PM (BRkq2) 28
Difficult to believe, I know.
Posted by: Guilded Age II at August 08, 2020 02:24 PM (BRkq2) 29
So make sure your hive boxes are attractive with shade and a source of water (even a small drip, so no stagnant water or mosquitos).
Best of luck... Posted by: Adriane the Critic ... at August 08, 2020 01:54 PM (LPnfS) I only had one experience with a swarm. They were on a crabapple tree in the front of my house. It was spectacular, and it looked like they were settling there for a while. Someone had reported their presence to the local police who called to see if I would agree to a beekeeper showing up and collecting it. Naturally, I agreed. It was interesting to watch. I lost a small branch, but they moved to a good home. Posted by: CN at August 08, 2020 02:27 PM (ONvIw) 30
We're getting to the end of the summer crops here. The cherry tomato plants are wilting even though the fruit continues to ripen on the vines. The leaf lettuce is starting to bolt and I'm surprised it took this long considering the heat the last few weeks. It's still usable for a few days if cut with care. The herbs are doing just fine. I'm getting spoiled with the fresh basil added to a lot of dishes.
Posted by: JTB at August 08, 2020 02:29 PM (7EjX1) 31
Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat food from it all the days of your life. It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return. -- Genesis 3:17-19
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 08, 2020 02:30 PM (ywNoU) 32
Trolling a gardening thread...that's desperate.
Posted by: BignJames at August 08, 2020 02:32 PM (X/Pw5) 33
Posted by: CN at August 08, 2020 02:27 PM (ONvIw)
They cluster like grapes around the queen. If you can shake the queen loose and into a bucket, the rest will follow and fill the bucket all by themselves, and you can then literally pour them into a box. Sounds incredible, but it's true. I can easily imagine them all staying in a cluster like that in the limb! Posted by: Guilded Age II at August 08, 2020 02:35 PM (BRkq2) 34
>>Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat food from it all the days of your life. It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return. -- Genesis 3:17-19
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 08, 2020 02:30 PM (ywNoU) That sounds alarmingly pessimistic but at the same time realistic in a comforting way. Like, we're all going to die, so stop worrying about it. Posted by: Frasier Crane at August 08, 2020 02:38 PM (CWMF2) 35
Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat food from it all the days of your life. It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return. -- Genesis 3:17-19
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 08, 2020 02:30 PM (ywNoU) How ya like THEM apples? Posted by: BignJames at August 08, 2020 02:41 PM (X/Pw5) 36
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 08, 2020 02:30 PM (ywNoU)
Fiery the angels fell; deep thunder rolled around their shores; burning with the fires of Orc -- Batty, R: 2019 Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at August 08, 2020 02:44 PM (DTX3h) 37
I like Carlotta's little garden patch.
Posted by: Guilded Age II at August 08, 2020 02:44 PM (BRkq2) 38
Legal Insurrection- California about to set loose 17,600 inmates on the public.
Load up on guns, bring your friends It's fun to lose, and to pretend Posted by: Skip at August 08, 2020 02:44 PM (OjZpE) 39
I frequently wish we had started serious gardening decades ago. For years the work schedule for Mrs. JTB and myself didn't allow that. It was an unbelievably busy time for us. And we were a lot more nimble then.
But having thirty or so years of experience, especially with heirloom veggies, would have been fun. Posted by: JTB at August 08, 2020 02:45 PM (7EjX1) 40
The grapes are beautiful. How do you keep the birds out of them?
Posted by: Guilded Age II at August 08, 2020 02:45 PM (BRkq2) 41
Mingo only scum, in game of life.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 08, 2020 02:45 PM (wPVhA) Posted by: EBT 4Evah !!! at August 08, 2020 02:46 PM (LPnfS) 43
I like Carlotta's little garden patch.
Posted by: Guilded Age II at August 08, 2020 02:44 PM (BRkq2) Izzat bright green plant...dog fennel? Posted by: BignJames at August 08, 2020 02:47 PM (X/Pw5) 44
If you can shake the queen loose and into a bucket, the rest will follow and fill the bucket all by themselves
Boy, you've packed a lot into that "if". "Hey, honey, it says here on the internet to shake the queen into a bucket..." Posted by: t-bird at August 08, 2020 02:48 PM (z36Kd) Posted by: t-bird at August 08, 2020 02:50 PM (KDCRD) 46
Any who.
Watering some potted plants - mock oranges, hoping to keep 'em alive until planting in September. Plant 'em now and they will scorch in AZ. Think I found a Messier object in Sagitarius, so looking at the maps to try and figure out which one. Happy-ish Saturday, all ... Posted by: Adriane the Accurate Astronomy Critic ... at August 08, 2020 02:50 PM (LPnfS) Posted by: KT at August 08, 2020 02:51 PM (BVQ+1) 48
"What people may not realize if that your own hives
will swarm every year ..." Posted by: Guilded Age II interesting ... I had no idea. I knew there were a few maintenance chores, but figured they would stay around if happy. Having them around for better horticultural production would be nice ... they supposedly even help with soybean yield. Lots of clover around here probably gives them a steady supply of food, besides the other more variable blooms. This bunch has a creek about 80 feet away ... and some trees next to them. Posted by: illiniwek at August 08, 2020 02:52 PM (Cus5s) 49
>>Mingo only scum, in game of life.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 08, 2020 02:45 PM (wPVhA) It's "Mango" and "pawn," but your drift has been gotten. Posted by: Frasier Crane at August 08, 2020 02:54 PM (CWMF2) 50
Ronster at August 08, 2020 01:32 PM
So you have a scarlet runner bean? If the beans are not setting, wait till the weather cools off. Pick when small. Don't eat them raw. They probably have a string. Posted by: KT at August 08, 2020 02:54 PM (BVQ+1) 51
Since I didn't plant much of a veg garden this year I've resorted to mooching from family and friends. Picked my brother's garden while he is on vacation and hauled in a nice mess of tomatoes and basil. My my those things are tasty.
Posted by: dartist at August 08, 2020 02:54 PM (+ya+t) 52
That kingfisher video - Wow!
Posted by: Cumberland Astro at August 08, 2020 02:55 PM (d9Cw3) 53
Boy, you've packed a lot into that "if". "Hey, honey, it says here on the internet to shake the queen into a bucket..."
Posted by: t-bird at August 08, 2020 02:48 PM (z36Kd) === You can sometimes scoop the whole cluster into the bucket. But if she stays on the branch (and she is not on the periphery of the bunch (trust me!)), they will all fly back to her, no matter if you scooped 80% of the bunch. Try it. Posted by: Guilded Age II at August 08, 2020 02:55 PM (BRkq2) 54
41Jumping back and forth up here and downstairs and outside can't see screen well screwed that up.
Anyway added fresh oregano and basil and a dried jalapeno from last year in my chile. Took note still no Cayenne pepper starting. Posted by: Skip at August 08, 2020 02:56 PM (OjZpE) 55
illiniwek at August 08, 2020 01:42 PM
Mr. Bar-the-door has tended bees, and has moved swarms. It is a fascinating process. Posted by: KT at August 08, 2020 02:57 PM (BVQ+1) 56
Try it.
Posted by: Guilded Age II at August 08, 2020 02:55 PM (BRkq2) Couldn't make me if you held a gun to my head. Posted by: BignJames at August 08, 2020 02:57 PM (X/Pw5) 57
Chi-Town Jerry at August 08, 2020 02:11 PM
Thanks for the recipe. Aren't a lot of recipes for cherry tomatoes. Posted by: KT at August 08, 2020 02:59 PM (BVQ+1) 58
We also have lots of the box bugs on our zucchini and gourd vines. Soapy water or squish them ASAP. The adults emit a weird stink if you bother them.
Posted by: KitchenMitch at August 08, 2020 03:00 PM (mhzgF) 59
58 illiniwek at August 08, 2020 01:42 PM
Mr. Bar-the-door has tended bees, and has moved swarms. It is a fascinating process. Posted by: KT at August 08, 2020 02:57 PM (BVQ+1 It was fun to watch for the entire street. It was late in the day when the keeper came for them. And he brought us a jar of raw honey. Posted by: CN at August 08, 2020 03:00 PM (ONvIw) 60
BignJames at August 08, 2020 02:12 PM
Yes. The group in Texas puts their rose cuttings in "willow water" to make them root more easily. They try to find the original names of the roses. Posted by: KT at August 08, 2020 03:01 PM (BVQ+1) 61
Terrible tomato year here on my Tennessee mountain. It rained for 2 weeks in June with virtually no sun, so the plants turned yellow and lost lots of blooms. Since late June we've had less than 1/2 inch rain and I've tried to keep things watered but the tomatoes have quit. The weirdest thing is that the tomatoes on my Cherokee Purple and Cherokee Carbon never even turned purple. They just morphed from green to a sickly orange color. I'm about to just rip em all out.
Posted by: Cumberland Astro at August 08, 2020 03:02 PM (d9Cw3) 62
PET NOOD
Posted by: Skip, the guy who says NOOD at August 08, 2020 03:03 PM (OjZpE) Posted by: KT at August 08, 2020 03:03 PM (BVQ+1) 64
59 Try it.
Posted by: Guilded Age II at August 08, 2020 02:55 PM (BRkq2) Couldn't make me if you held a gun to my head. Posted by: BignJames at August 08, 2020 02:57 PM (X/Pw5) === For the record, I failed at roses. So. Posted by: Guilded Age II at August 08, 2020 03:05 PM (BRkq2) 65
Besides 14 tomatoe plants must have 4 volunteers coming up.
Posted by: Skip, the guy who says NOOD at August 08, 2020 03:05 PM (OjZpE) Posted by: KT at August 08, 2020 03:06 PM (BVQ+1) 67
So you have a scarlet runner bean?
Yes, I think so. Wife grew one a few years ago. We discussed it on the garden thread. IIRC they have to be cooked well or they can be poisonous. Posted by: Ronster at August 08, 2020 03:09 PM (90/c2) Posted by: KT at August 08, 2020 03:10 PM (BVQ+1) 69
Cumberland Astro at August 08, 2020 03:02 PM
Orange is a background color in some of the dark tomatoes. Don't give up quite yet. Sometimes there's a season between summer and the cold fall nights . . . Try nipping off a few branch tips to induce new flowers. Posted by: KT at August 08, 2020 03:12 PM (BVQ+1) 70
66 ... "What color are the blossoms?"
Hi KT, The blooms are a deep magenta. I prefer the darker color blooms for some reason. And thanks for another gardening thread. It's always pretty and informative. Posted by: JTB at August 08, 2020 03:16 PM (7EjX1) 71
Was also burning poison ivy again this morning as I have loads of sticks all over from recent storms. See if I get it again.
Posted by: Skip at August 08, 2020 03:31 PM (OjZpE) 72
From Idaho's Treasure Valley, Boise area: Thankfully, the triple digit temperatures are back down to doubles - hopefully the worst bit of summer is past.
The shelling pea vines have been cut down and their fences removed. In one of the two beds that had those fences down the center, I have green beans on both sides - those are producing nicely and I've been processing and freezing them. In the other bed, I have onions on one side, and a few fall carrots on the other. I've already removed all the spring carrot crop, because an Unknown Critter was gnawing at the upper part of the carrots, and I don't like sharing. If I counted correctly, I now have 13 pounds of sliced carrots in the freezer. We had some "found potatoes" that we tucked into the end of a bed when we were out of cloth bags to plant potatoes in - they produced 5 pounds. We have one other bed where a potato popped up by itself, and 10 cloth bags of potatoes, still to go. The mystery vine that's mugging the test soybeans is definitely cantaloupe - it has 4 fruits growing, compared to just 3 so far, among all the vines we actually planted! We're eating, processing, and freezing corn as well. The first variety is almost done with - we'll taste-test the second variety when it's ready. A few Legend tomatoes have been harvested, but we're still waiting on all the other types. This week's unusual spotting was a Hummingbird Moth on the larkspurs. I can see why they're called that! The body shape is *so* similar! Only the little antennae convinced me that it was *certainly* not a hummingbird. For fun - turns out one of our neighbors' 6 chickens is an escape artist. She's figured out how to fly out of the yard. Between yesterday and today, we've gently herded her from our backyard, toward her own, three times. I wonder if they'll have to clip her wings to keep her at home! Hope everyone else is staying safe, staying well, and *staying prepared* for whatever craziness may show up before the November election. Posted by: Pat* at August 08, 2020 03:43 PM (2pX/F) 73
I have had bee nests in the yard the last couple of years. Hadn't located where they are this year but they are around. Tons of flowers of all sorts here to keep them busy.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 08, 2020 03:46 PM (1g7ch) 74
>> [ Guilded Age II ] 43 The grapes are beautiful. How
>> do you keep the birds out of them? Check out this edition of the world-famous AoS garden thread: http://ace.mu.nu/archives/382613.php Posted by: 40 miles north at August 08, 2020 03:50 PM (o2vOl) 75
How did the photographer get that bird's activity underwater?
Posted by: kallisto As the youngest of 8 boys, he learned to hold his breath against all the farts. Posted by: JT at August 08, 2020 03:56 PM (arJlL) 76
Hiya Mr. Sunshine !
Posted by: JT at August 08, 2020 03:57 PM (arJlL) 77
Chile is done, haven't tried it yet so no idea how spicy it will be.
Posted by: Skip at August 08, 2020 04:26 PM (OjZpE) 78
Pat* at August 08, 2020 03:43 PM
Thanks for the great report. Those hummingbird moths really seem to love larkspurs. Posted by: KT at August 08, 2020 07:44 PM (BVQ+1) 79
Skip at August 08, 2020 04:26 PM
One of the adventures of gardening is not knowing how spicy your peppers will be. Posted by: KT at August 08, 2020 07:44 PM (BVQ+1) 80
Check out this edition of the world-famous AoS garden thread: http://ace.mu.nu/archives/382613.php
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