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David Azerrad: Conservatism, Inc. Has Failed And Is Incapable of Self-Reform
His review of Conservatism, Inc. -- informed by having recently worked inside of it -- is brutal.What is conservatism in America today? It's hundreds of millions of dollars a year spent fiddling while Rome burns. It's ideas with little to no consequence. It's getting trampled all over by History, but while yelling Stop! Conservatism is the seven cheers for capitalism and the deafening silence on demographic change, feminism, and corporate malfeasance. It's the same tired cast of speakers blathering about limited government almost a century after the New Deal. It's the platitudinous Reagan quotes and the worn-out Buckley anecdotes. It's the mindless optimism and the childish exhortations--if something can’t go on forever, it won't! ..Read the whole thing. His main point is that Conservatism, Inc. still believes its mission is to defend society from a leftwing take-over. Conservatism, Inc. cannot see -- or is paid not to see -- that the leftwing take-over already happened, and they won on every single front, often without even having to fire a shot. Thus, the real mission for any true conservative is a counter-revolutionary offensive against well-defended ground, not defending territory that was lost years ago. Again, they just can't see this or admit this. They still think it's 2003 and that we're doing a pretty great job of keeping the Maoists at bay. This is why they're forever nattering on about civility and tone and all sorts of secondary or tertiary issues -- they still think that it's 2003 and the war will be won through Roberts Rules of Order and the tricks and tropes they learned in high school forensics. And they babble about such inanities because the people paying them to babble -- the leftwing, #Woke corporate donor class -- is happy about the leftwing's takeover of all important institutions and certainly doesn't want to see the disruptions that a determined counter-offensive by actual conservatives would entail. As I say, read the whole thing.
If this is conservatism, then we may be inclined to say, let the conservatives keep it. Perhaps the time has come for patriotic Americans tired of the Left desecrating all they hold dear to go beyond conservatism? Conservatism may indeed be unsalvageable at this point. The old guard is too heavily invested in--nay, it benefits too much from the status quo to own up to its failures, correct its leftward drift, and reground itself in the realities of the 21st century. Its business model works, as evidenced by the hundreds of millions of dollars that flow into its coffers each year.
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Oh Joy!
Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at August 04, 2020 04:37 PM (gtatv)
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MEEP MEEP MOTHERFUCKERS
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 04, 2020 04:37 PM (W2Pud)
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sorry, didn't mean to shout
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 04, 2020 04:38 PM (W2Pud)
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Is it time to pick a different word? Rename "conservatism" in the same way the Dems went from Liberal to Progressive?
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at August 04, 2020 04:39 PM (xptlg)
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Sounds like David Azarad read one day's worth of posts and comments from AoS.
Welcome to the party pal. You're late.
Welcome to the party pal. You're late.
Posted by: Secret Squirrel at August 04, 2020 04:40 PM (xyImL)
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firteitghth!
Posted by: Justasheep at August 04, 2020 04:41 PM (L9Eia)
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Who is this person and why should I give a rat's a$$ about their opinion?
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 04, 2020 04:41 PM (JUOKG)
Posted by: DemocratsHateWhitePeople at August 04, 2020 04:41 PM (jqWot)
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I thought Azarad was a city in Peruvia?
Posted by: garrett at August 04, 2020 04:42 PM (MaVx/)
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he's right
Posted by: CN at August 04, 2020 04:42 PM (ONvIw)
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Conservativism, Inc. is Hitler in his bunker giving orders to divisions that no longer exist.
Posted by: Mikey NTH -Boo Hoo? You Do! Pity Party Supplies at The Outrage Outlet! at August 04, 2020 04:42 PM (in24S)
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When you're ready for a rock-ribbed Conservative, I'm rested. Tanned. And ready.
Posted by: Evan McMullin at August 04, 2020 04:42 PM (DMUuz)
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Sounds like David Azarad read one day's worth of posts and comments from AoS.
Welcome to the party pal. You're late.
Posted by: Secret Squirrel
I was thinking this but you said it very succintly for me, thank you.
Welcome to the party pal. You're late.
Posted by: Secret Squirrel
I was thinking this but you said it very succintly for me, thank you.
Posted by: BifBewalski at August 04, 2020 04:43 PM (VcFUs)
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Parade of balless men looking for a paid ditch to make a stand.
Posted by: Dr. McCoy at August 04, 2020 04:43 PM (WX+x0)
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The mission of Con Inc is to conserve Con Inc.
Posted by: davidt at August 04, 2020 04:43 PM (l3+k2)
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I think the above is why AZ got stuck with McCain (may he decompose and all his spawn lose influence quickly) over and over (repeat ad nauseam). They drove me out of the GOP by sticking him down my throat.
Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at August 04, 2020 04:43 PM (gtatv)
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My guess is that the last 40 years of conservative inc. surrender monkeys must have all been French. It's the only way anyone could surrender on everything so quickly while claiming to have a "proud legacy"
Posted by: Justasheep at August 04, 2020 04:43 PM (L9Eia)
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No more Mrs Nice Gal
Posted by: It's me donna at August 04, 2020 04:43 PM (Zmnko)
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Stop!
Posted by: dantesed at August 04, 2020 04:44 PM (YGO7E)
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Read the whole thing. His main point is that Conservatism, Inc. still believes its mission is to defend society from a leftwing take-over.
Conservatism, Inc. cannot see -- or is paid not to see -- that the leftwing take-over already happened, and they won on every single front, often without even having to fire a shot.
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To a degree, perhaps. Among the famous ones. The lesser hangers-on are probably actually conservatives, and that is a problem. There's a reason I'm not a conservative. I am not looking to conserve this system as it is today. I'd like to see a regression to the Constitution. I'm a regressionist, if anything.
The problem with conservatives who aren't just on the take is that they have no fixed position. They seek to conserve whatever it is today, now, this moment. Every time the Left wins some battle, that post-bellum scenario becomes the new baseline. This is why many conservatives fight for unfettered divorce today, for example, while deploring the advent of national no-fault divorce under Reagan. It is the status quo, and it must be maintained.
Every loss forms the new defensive position. They have no fixed anchor. They are not a ship in a harbor, lashed to a specific point. They are floating in open sea while the thrusters maintain relative position. If a gale blows them off course, the thrusters just seek to maintain the position of wherever they end up.
Conservatism, Inc. cannot see -- or is paid not to see -- that the leftwing take-over already happened, and they won on every single front, often without even having to fire a shot.
++++++++++++++
To a degree, perhaps. Among the famous ones. The lesser hangers-on are probably actually conservatives, and that is a problem. There's a reason I'm not a conservative. I am not looking to conserve this system as it is today. I'd like to see a regression to the Constitution. I'm a regressionist, if anything.
The problem with conservatives who aren't just on the take is that they have no fixed position. They seek to conserve whatever it is today, now, this moment. Every time the Left wins some battle, that post-bellum scenario becomes the new baseline. This is why many conservatives fight for unfettered divorce today, for example, while deploring the advent of national no-fault divorce under Reagan. It is the status quo, and it must be maintained.
Every loss forms the new defensive position. They have no fixed anchor. They are not a ship in a harbor, lashed to a specific point. They are floating in open sea while the thrusters maintain relative position. If a gale blows them off course, the thrusters just seek to maintain the position of wherever they end up.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 04, 2020 04:44 PM (hYcqw)
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Ace, another great piece.
This is why they're forever nattering on about civility and tone...
This was actually a major reason why I quit my last job.
I tried to go into my boss' office to complain about a co-worker who was frankly being nasty and mouthy to me, and I was at my wit's end.
Did he listen to me? Of course not. I just ended up getting a 10-minute lecture about my "tone," because I wasn't being deferential enough when I wanted to see him. He also made me sit and wait in his office for another 30 minutes doing nothing, while he was on the phone, knowing the whole time I was already ridiculously behind on my work, because other co-workers were refusing to do *their* work.
Glad I finally left that place. The boss actually did offer me my job back yet AGAIN after my final blowup, but I said no, because I knew nothing would ever change.
(Sorry for making this personal.)
This is why they're forever nattering on about civility and tone...
This was actually a major reason why I quit my last job.
I tried to go into my boss' office to complain about a co-worker who was frankly being nasty and mouthy to me, and I was at my wit's end.
Did he listen to me? Of course not. I just ended up getting a 10-minute lecture about my "tone," because I wasn't being deferential enough when I wanted to see him. He also made me sit and wait in his office for another 30 minutes doing nothing, while he was on the phone, knowing the whole time I was already ridiculously behind on my work, because other co-workers were refusing to do *their* work.
Glad I finally left that place. The boss actually did offer me my job back yet AGAIN after my final blowup, but I said no, because I knew nothing would ever change.
(Sorry for making this personal.)
Posted by: qdpsteve at August 04, 2020 04:44 PM (L2ZTs)
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Becomes a racket.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 04, 2020 04:44 PM (oVJmc)
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Pretty good article. Be nice to identify specifics though...
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at August 04, 2020 04:44 PM (rWZ8Y)
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Conservative, Inc. is largely second-Gen conservatives who grew up and came into politics inside the system. It's not Bill Buckley writing "God and Man at Yale", but Jonah Goldberg and Ben Shapiro writing for campus publications as the conservative voice. The problem is that when you come up inside the system, it's hard to see anything but the system, or to see how rotten it really is.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 04, 2020 04:44 PM (SgjGX)
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I thought Azarad was a city in Peruvia?
Posted by: garrett at August 04, 2020 04:42 PM (MaVx/)
Boss Hogg runs shit there.
Posted by: garrett at August 04, 2020 04:42 PM (MaVx/)
Boss Hogg runs shit there.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 04, 2020 04:44 PM (FokEf)
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I hate it when people tell me to read.
I miss-read the headline as "Incapable of Self-Harm". And it made me a little sad.
I miss-read the headline as "Incapable of Self-Harm". And it made me a little sad.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 04, 2020 04:44 PM (xfb67)
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WE want more what's her face. She will gut the poseurs.
Posted by: Dr. McCoy at August 04, 2020 04:44 PM (WX+x0)
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>>Again, they just can't see this or admit this. They still think it's 2003 and that we're doing a pretty great job of keeping the Maoists at bay.
How does that work when you have David French defending drag queen story hour and Charlie Kirk having transgender Miss MAGA at that gay guy at his TPUSA events?
Oh, and then there's Ben Shapiro defending every Lefty from "cancel culture" as if this earns him brownie points and will inspire his foes to defend those on the right from cancel culture.
How does that work when you have David French defending drag queen story hour and Charlie Kirk having transgender Miss MAGA at that gay guy at his TPUSA events?
Oh, and then there's Ben Shapiro defending every Lefty from "cancel culture" as if this earns him brownie points and will inspire his foes to defend those on the right from cancel culture.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 04, 2020 04:45 PM (bDqIh)
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I blame the Kochs more than anyone.
They basically bought the GOP and various think tanks (and for not much money) and turned it into their little liberaltarian hobby horse of issues the rank and file never supported but suddenly become "bedrock" conservative issues like open borders, open visas, and free trade. Anything against this and it was you're some brown hating bigot.
Trump as an individual can irritate me, but the platform he runs on is one that can actually win and I support. People like Paul Ryan were just fine being the Washington General to the Democrats Harlem Globetrotters.
They basically bought the GOP and various think tanks (and for not much money) and turned it into their little liberaltarian hobby horse of issues the rank and file never supported but suddenly become "bedrock" conservative issues like open borders, open visas, and free trade. Anything against this and it was you're some brown hating bigot.
Trump as an individual can irritate me, but the platform he runs on is one that can actually win and I support. People like Paul Ryan were just fine being the Washington General to the Democrats Harlem Globetrotters.
Posted by: Raven at August 04, 2020 04:45 PM (6RfEx)
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No more Mrs Nice Gal
Posted by: It's me donna at August 04, 2020 04:43 PM (Zmnko)
Obligatory:
https://tinyurl.com/ybkvlyhz
No more Mrs Nice Gal
Posted by: It's me donna at August 04, 2020 04:43 PM (Zmnko)
Obligatory:
https://tinyurl.com/ybkvlyhz
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 04, 2020 04:45 PM (ufFY8)
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His main point is that Conservatism, Inc. still believes its mission is to defend society from a leftwing take-over.
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By supporting their candidate.
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By supporting their candidate.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 04, 2020 04:46 PM (kA3Cp)
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Every loss forms the new defensive position. They
have no fixed anchor. They are not a ship in a harbor, lashed to a
specific point. They are floating in open sea while the thrusters
maintain relative position. If a gale blows them off course, the
thrusters just seek to maintain the position of wherever they end up.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 04, 2020 04:44 PM
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Thrusters. That's hot.
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Every loss forms the new defensive position. They
have no fixed anchor. They are not a ship in a harbor, lashed to a
specific point. They are floating in open sea while the thrusters
maintain relative position. If a gale blows them off course, the
thrusters just seek to maintain the position of wherever they end up.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 04, 2020 04:44 PM
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Thrusters. That's hot.
Posted by: Cap'n Billy at August 04, 2020 04:46 PM (pMGkg)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 04, 2020 04:47 PM (aKsyK)
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just like antifa is LARPing at revolution, Con Inc is LARPing at politics
Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at August 04, 2020 04:47 PM (k/MuV)
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if the ones who aren't just in it to grift (lincoln project guys, for example) have not figured it out yet... they never will. And even if they do, can anyone ever trust their judgment again?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 04:47 PM (KZzsI)
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Nothing I ain't said for years.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at August 04, 2020 04:47 PM (OUMaO)
Posted by: garrett at August 04, 2020 04:47 PM (MaVx/)
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Update on the Brie Larson emergency ass transplant story. Doctors have
confirmed that Ms Larson will need a full double cheek emergency ass
transplant, since in testing, she was unable to find her own ass with
both hands. The doctors said she was suffering from both Assidosis and
Flat ulance, which are rare conditions effecting women with no
discernible ass.
Ms Larson evidently lost her ass when she was the stunt double for Ashley Scott in the movie Into The Blue.
confirmed that Ms Larson will need a full double cheek emergency ass
transplant, since in testing, she was unable to find her own ass with
both hands. The doctors said she was suffering from both Assidosis and
Flat ulance, which are rare conditions effecting women with no
discernible ass.
Ms Larson evidently lost her ass when she was the stunt double for Ashley Scott in the movie Into The Blue.
Posted by: An Observation at August 04, 2020 04:48 PM (ffPdH)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 04, 2020 04:48 PM (mht8P)
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If this is conservatism, then we may be inclined to say, let the conservatives keep it.
I went from Reagan Republican to Limbaugh Conservative to Clinton Despiser to Tepid Bush Voter to 9/11 Conservative to Veep Palin Voter to Embarrassed Romney Shit Sandwich Eater to Obama Loather to hopping on the Trump Train early because I figured - why not?
Now I have no idea what the hell I am. But Republican and Conservative surely don't fit anymore.
If this is conservatism, then we may be inclined to say, let the conservatives keep it.
I went from Reagan Republican to Limbaugh Conservative to Clinton Despiser to Tepid Bush Voter to 9/11 Conservative to Veep Palin Voter to Embarrassed Romney Shit Sandwich Eater to Obama Loather to hopping on the Trump Train early because I figured - why not?
Now I have no idea what the hell I am. But Republican and Conservative surely don't fit anymore.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at August 04, 2020 04:48 PM (luzVb)
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His main point is that Conservatism, Inc. still believes its mission is to defend society from a leftwing take-over.
Except they don't. They seem to instead believe in corporatism and fascist economics. Whatever is good for big business is good for America, even if its bad.
Except they don't. They seem to instead believe in corporatism and fascist economics. Whatever is good for big business is good for America, even if its bad.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 04:48 PM (KZzsI)
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Also agreed with this piece, that Conservatism Inc. is hopelessly addicted to forever being in a 'defensive' position.
That won't work anymore. We're all sick fo being forced to crouch in the corner while SJWs are pummeling us with everything including the kitchen sink, simply for existing, while yelling "don't hurt me too bad!! don't hurt me!! Not the face! Not the face!!"
The old guard is a classic abusive spouse/abused spouse relationship, times 1000.
That won't work anymore. We're all sick fo being forced to crouch in the corner while SJWs are pummeling us with everything including the kitchen sink, simply for existing, while yelling "don't hurt me too bad!! don't hurt me!! Not the face! Not the face!!"
The old guard is a classic abusive spouse/abused spouse relationship, times 1000.
Posted by: qdpsteve at August 04, 2020 04:48 PM (L2ZTs)
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Willowed
Observation?
453 A 2020 penny is 2.5 grams, 2.5% of which is copper, the rest is zinc.
Copper is at $2.90/lb. Figure 454 grams to the lb. That works out to $0.006 per gram.
So the .06 grams of copper is $0.0004.
Am I missing something....?
Observation?
453 A 2020 penny is 2.5 grams, 2.5% of which is copper, the rest is zinc.
Copper is at $2.90/lb. Figure 454 grams to the lb. That works out to $0.006 per gram.
So the .06 grams of copper is $0.0004.
Am I missing something....?
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at August 04, 2020 04:48 PM (4k/Uz)
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I just watched the explosion in Beirut. Once they sift through the remaining destruction there will be more then 50 dead. Hubby, Vietnam vet, said it looked like ammo cooking off, not fireworks. The second explosion? Have no idea except that it was brutal. I pray for the innocents that were hurt or killed.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 04, 2020 04:48 PM (JVgnl)
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Conservatism, Inc.: Standing athwart History yelling Fuck my wife!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 04, 2020 04:49 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at August 04, 2020 04:50 PM (4k/Uz)
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As he says we lost they won. We are not conserving anything anymore.
Posted by: Asshoes at August 04, 2020 04:50 PM (miiX6)
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This isn't the shill to die on.
Posted by: andycanuck at August 04, 2020 04:50 PM (an7Mv)
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Perhaps it is time to lay aside the moniker "conservative" for certainly society is bereft of things a patriotic freedom lover would want to conserve.
Lockean moral individualists would be more accurate.
Lockean moral individualists would be more accurate.
Posted by: mikethemoose at August 04, 2020 04:50 PM (Y6UV7)
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The main problem with Conservatives is simple:
They never conserve anything.
But those Georgetown wine n cheese elbow rubbers, tho.
They never conserve anything.
But those Georgetown wine n cheese elbow rubbers, tho.
Posted by: eleven at August 04, 2020 04:50 PM (QLf0x)
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Oh, and then there's Ben Shapiro defending every Lefty from "cancel culture" as if this earns him brownie points and will inspire his foes to defend those on the right from cancel culture.
While he tries to cancel every possible competitor to his niche.
The problem is he does not see that enforcing cancel equally can negate it by making it too onerous to support.
While he tries to cancel every possible competitor to his niche.
The problem is he does not see that enforcing cancel equally can negate it by making it too onerous to support.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 04:50 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: garrett at August 04, 2020 04:50 PM (MaVx/)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 04, 2020 04:50 PM (t4of4)
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I think conservatism and Conservative, Inc. are two different things. Conservative, Inc. are grifters. They know full well that they are liberalism lite. They're deceivers, not self-deceived.
But conservatism is likely just dead. As near as I tell, conservatives want it that way. They're never going to embrace things like eliminating no-fault divorce, refusing to subsidize unwed mothers, more limited roles for women outside the home. And if the traditional nuclear family ideal is off the table, then so is conservatism.
But conservatism is likely just dead. As near as I tell, conservatives want it that way. They're never going to embrace things like eliminating no-fault divorce, refusing to subsidize unwed mothers, more limited roles for women outside the home. And if the traditional nuclear family ideal is off the table, then so is conservatism.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 04, 2020 04:50 PM (H5knJ)
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"4 Is it time to pick a different word? Rename "conservatism" in the same way the Dems went from Liberal to Progressive?
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at August 04, 2020 04:39 PM (xptlg) "
Very likely.
What is left to conserve ?
We need to fight to regain or re-establish the America that we once had.
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at August 04, 2020 04:39 PM (xptlg) "
Very likely.
What is left to conserve ?
We need to fight to regain or re-establish the America that we once had.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at August 04, 2020 04:50 PM (OWgiM)
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I am ready for Reactionary Inc.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 04, 2020 04:51 PM (yQpMk)
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Don't worry, we can take care of all this with some tax cuts.
Posted by: Mark1971 at August 04, 2020 04:51 PM (xPl2J)
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OT
Harvard stooge Laurence Tribe gives away the ultimate Democrat election game plan to Joy Reid. As he explains, via massive use of mail-in ballots which, as we have already seen, cause chaos, confusion, and delay, the electoral college could be unable to choose a clear winner. If no winner is determined by January 20 then, according to Tribe, Nancy Pelosi would become president...if the Democrats retain control of the House.
eh?
Harvard stooge Laurence Tribe gives away the ultimate Democrat election game plan to Joy Reid. As he explains, via massive use of mail-in ballots which, as we have already seen, cause chaos, confusion, and delay, the electoral college could be unable to choose a clear winner. If no winner is determined by January 20 then, according to Tribe, Nancy Pelosi would become president...if the Democrats retain control of the House.
eh?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 04, 2020 04:51 PM (t4of4)
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Brilliant! Yes, "conservatism" is a dead word, a dead movement. A "conservative" could never grasp why the University system, for example, needs to be utterly destroyed and replaced with something else. Only a Radical would propose that.
The new status quo must be burned to the ground and replaced, NOT "conserved"!!!
The new status quo must be burned to the ground and replaced, NOT "conserved"!!!
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 04, 2020 04:51 PM (Kpl3J)
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Agreed, the right for the most part were playing by the "Rules" while the left just decided to do whatever they wanted to do. This is WAR. There is no defending anymore. ATTACK ATTACK ATTACKS and take back what we not so much lost, but gave away.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 04, 2020 04:51 PM (85Gof)
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I blame the Kochs more than anyone.
They basically bought the GOP and various think tanks (and for not much money) and turned it into their little liberaltarian hobby horse of issues the rank and file never supported but suddenly become "bedrock" conservative issues like open borders, open visas, and free trade. Anything against this and it was you're some brown hating bigot.
It's deeper than the Kochs. Basically after WWII the Right was anchored by libertarians (favoring maximized freedom), while the left was anchored by progressives (favoring maximized equality), and conservatives (favoring stability) made up the center. Blue-collar conservatives tended to lean left, because of social safety programs and support for unions, but they were also generally patriotic. Meanwhile white-collar conservatives leaned right due to support for free trade and deregulation.
The turning point was the fall of the USSR. Without the existential threat of communism the libertarians started to pull away from conservatives due to differences on social issues. Progressives did the same with blue-collar conservatives.
They basically bought the GOP and various think tanks (and for not much money) and turned it into their little liberaltarian hobby horse of issues the rank and file never supported but suddenly become "bedrock" conservative issues like open borders, open visas, and free trade. Anything against this and it was you're some brown hating bigot.
It's deeper than the Kochs. Basically after WWII the Right was anchored by libertarians (favoring maximized freedom), while the left was anchored by progressives (favoring maximized equality), and conservatives (favoring stability) made up the center. Blue-collar conservatives tended to lean left, because of social safety programs and support for unions, but they were also generally patriotic. Meanwhile white-collar conservatives leaned right due to support for free trade and deregulation.
The turning point was the fall of the USSR. Without the existential threat of communism the libertarians started to pull away from conservatives due to differences on social issues. Progressives did the same with blue-collar conservatives.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 04, 2020 04:51 PM (SgjGX)
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I wrote a big essay back in about 2010 about the end of the left-right spectrum, and how I didn't call myself a "conservative," and so on. But I never published it, because the political landscap was (even then) seemingly constantly in flux, and by the time I was ready to hit the "publish" button, the whole essay already seemed out of date. So I'd rewrite it, and agin reached for the "publish" button -- only to learnt thaty it had already become outdated again. So I just gave up.
But the fundamentals of the essay have remained true ever since. Left/right is an ancient outdated and now completely irrelevant divide, and the correct dividing criterion is freedom-vs.-collectivism. There can be left-wing collectivism as well as what used to be called "right"-wing collectivism (like 1920s Italian fascism). But I think even back then the way o dividing things into right and left was incorrect, and that fascism, Nazism, Soviet communism, Maoism, fundamentalist Islam and the modern-day "woke" cult are all aspect of the same urge -- collectivist unity, safety in the crowd.
And anyone opposed to this way of thinking is automatically a freedom-loving individualist, whatever they might formerly have been classified on the old left/right scale.
But the fundamentals of the essay have remained true ever since. Left/right is an ancient outdated and now completely irrelevant divide, and the correct dividing criterion is freedom-vs.-collectivism. There can be left-wing collectivism as well as what used to be called "right"-wing collectivism (like 1920s Italian fascism). But I think even back then the way o dividing things into right and left was incorrect, and that fascism, Nazism, Soviet communism, Maoism, fundamentalist Islam and the modern-day "woke" cult are all aspect of the same urge -- collectivist unity, safety in the crowd.
And anyone opposed to this way of thinking is automatically a freedom-loving individualist, whatever they might formerly have been classified on the old left/right scale.
Posted by: zombie at August 04, 2020 04:51 PM (HEEq1)
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Conservatism, Inc.: Standing athwart History yelling Fuck my wife!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 04, 2020 04:49 PM (yQpMk)
Fuck my wife - please!
Conservatism, Inc.: Standing athwart History yelling Fuck my wife!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 04, 2020 04:49 PM (yQpMk)
Fuck my wife - please!
Posted by: zomvie conservative Inc Henny Youngman at August 04, 2020 04:51 PM (ufFY8)
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As for our priorities, they are clear. We must confront the great threats of our time: unsustainable immigration levels and rapid demographic change; cratering fertility rates and collapsing families; the corrosive acids of neoliberalism and identity politics (in all their manifestations, from tech censorship to racial preferences); pathological white guilt; a political system largely unmoored from the consent of the governed; fiscal irresponsibility; and the emasculation of men through feminized education and various forms of soma that sap spiritedness (in particular pornography). In short, the entirety of the ruling class's ideology must be discredited.
Populist Tucker Carlson is more "conservative" than the alleged "conservative" leaders.
Populist Tucker Carlson is more "conservative" than the alleged "conservative" leaders.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 04, 2020 04:51 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: artemis at August 04, 2020 04:51 PM (AwPyG)
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ConInc is why I quit the Republican party
they talk a good game, but where's the beef?
so am I a constitutionalist?
an Americanist?
they talk a good game, but where's the beef?
so am I a constitutionalist?
an Americanist?
Posted by: DB- just DB. Bird= the word at August 04, 2020 04:52 PM (iTXRQ)
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Harrumph! None of this would have come out without that meddling Trump.
Here we were, safe in our sinecures, pumping out recycled bilge for the masses, espousing much, while accomplishing little except lining our pockets and that boor of a cad, Trump, comes along and destroys our livelihood.
This shall not stand and our place in the pantheon of American grifters shall be restored under President Biden!
My word as Kristol!
Here we were, safe in our sinecures, pumping out recycled bilge for the masses, espousing much, while accomplishing little except lining our pockets and that boor of a cad, Trump, comes along and destroys our livelihood.
This shall not stand and our place in the pantheon of American grifters shall be restored under President Biden!
My word as Kristol!
Posted by: Cap'n Billy Kristol at August 04, 2020 04:52 PM (WEBkv)
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2,500 "missing."
I'm sure.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at August 04, 2020 04:50 PM (4k/Uz)
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Well, in movie explosions there's just some fire. No overpressure and no flying debris. You can just walk away from them.
2,500 "missing."
I'm sure.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at August 04, 2020 04:50 PM (4k/Uz)
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Well, in movie explosions there's just some fire. No overpressure and no flying debris. You can just walk away from them.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 04, 2020 04:52 PM (mht8P)
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Don't worry, we can take care of all this with some tax cuts.
Posted by: Mark1971
"Well, all my loved ones have been executed and I have to live in a concentration camp. But I'm getting .02% more to take home in my paycheck every week! Yay!" :-P
Posted by: Mark1971
"Well, all my loved ones have been executed and I have to live in a concentration camp. But I'm getting .02% more to take home in my paycheck every week! Yay!" :-P
Posted by: qdpsteve at August 04, 2020 04:52 PM (L2ZTs)
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Reagan left public life 32 years ago.
Most of these people came up in his wake.
They view it as a management of legacies, not a fight to be won.
Most of these people came up in his wake.
They view it as a management of legacies, not a fight to be won.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 04, 2020 04:52 PM (oVJmc)
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Except they don't. They seem to instead believe in corporatism and fascist economics. Whatever is good for big business is good for America, even if its bad.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 04:48 PM (KZzsI)
This is ultimately something like a default resting point that political elites tend towards. Policy-wise either facism or mercantilism(which amount to the same thing if for different reasons) tends to dominate.
Except they don't. They seem to instead believe in corporatism and fascist economics. Whatever is good for big business is good for America, even if its bad.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 04:48 PM (KZzsI)
This is ultimately something like a default resting point that political elites tend towards. Policy-wise either facism or mercantilism(which amount to the same thing if for different reasons) tends to dominate.
Posted by: Someguy at August 04, 2020 04:52 PM (Zm+LZ)
Posted by: BluesFish at August 04, 2020 04:52 PM (kQFp+)
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Conservatism, Inc.: Standing athwart History yelling Fuck my wife!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 04, 2020 04:49 PM
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LOL!!
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Conservatism, Inc.: Standing athwart History yelling Fuck my wife!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 04, 2020 04:49 PM
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LOL!!
Posted by: irright at August 04, 2020 04:52 PM (pMGkg)
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Immigration reform!
Posted by: GOPe at August 04, 2020 04:53 PM (FokEf)
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Constitutionalist. While it is still legal.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 04, 2020 04:53 PM (kA3Cp)
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The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the demands of the expanding bureaucracy.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 04, 2020 04:48 PM (mht8P)
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We need to have a meeting to schedule next weeks meetings.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 04, 2020 04:48 PM (mht8P)
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We need to have a meeting to schedule next weeks meetings.
Posted by: wth at August 04, 2020 04:53 PM (v0R5T)
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Tom Servo, I agree.
Wasn't so very long ago original conservatism WAS radical. The standard bearers of it softened and became the thing OC was radically against.
Wasn't so very long ago original conservatism WAS radical. The standard bearers of it softened and became the thing OC was radically against.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at August 04, 2020 04:53 PM (4k/Uz)
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John Roberts is a "Conservative". John Roberts believes Roe V. Wade should be the Supreme Law of the Land Forever, and it must be Conserved. John Roberts and all of his "conservative" friends can go fuck themselves.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 04, 2020 04:53 PM (Kpl3J)
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Conservatives wouldn't even conserve women's bathrooms. I haven't considered myself a conservative for years. I have no interest in conserving any of this; instead, I want it all overturned. Reactionary is probably more accurate at this point.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at August 04, 2020 04:53 PM (UBhD9)
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Just like Lonesome Dove where they go steal Mex cattle then the Mex go steal some Tex cattle.
Then there were Tex Mex cattle.
Then there were Tex Mex cattle.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at August 04, 2020 04:54 PM (pB6Gt)
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In a world where McCain and Romney are considered conservatives, the word has lost all meaning.
Posted by: Asshoes at August 04, 2020 04:54 PM (miiX6)
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Posted by: zombie at August 04, 2020 04:51 PM (HEEq1)
But wait, the Republicans are red, the Democrats are blue.
See? Different.
But wait, the Republicans are red, the Democrats are blue.
See? Different.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 04, 2020 04:54 PM (4BMGG)
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4 Is it time to pick a different word? Rename "conservatism" in the same way the Dems went from Liberal to Progressive?
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore
I've been trying to think of that new word since 2001, to no avail.
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore
I've been trying to think of that new word since 2001, to no avail.
Posted by: zombie at August 04, 2020 04:54 PM (HEEq1)
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I would imagine that if states cannot get their fucking act together with respect to the election and mail-in ballot chaos, then the electoral votes from those states just won't be counted.
Congress has to certify them on December 15th, I believe.
Just don't certify them.
There goes CA, NY, and other blue states.
Congress has to certify them on December 15th, I believe.
Just don't certify them.
There goes CA, NY, and other blue states.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 04, 2020 04:55 PM (ufFY8)
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"Anti-Uniparty" maybe.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at August 04, 2020 04:55 PM (luzVb)
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Conservatism, Inc.: Standing athwart History yelling Fuck my wife!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 04, 2020 04:49 PM
"...PLEASE!"
- - Henny Goldberg
Conservatism, Inc.: Standing athwart History yelling Fuck my wife!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 04, 2020 04:49 PM
"...PLEASE!"
- - Henny Goldberg
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 04, 2020 04:55 PM (s2VJv)
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Conservatism, Inc.: Standing athwart History yelling Fuck my wife!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 04, 2020 04:49 PM (yQpMk)
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Heh
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 04, 2020 04:49 PM (yQpMk)
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Heh
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at August 04, 2020 04:55 PM (WEBkv)
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Shapiro is another plant, everybody.
Any time someone appears out of no where with a massive media push behind then, you can bet they're a plant for the left.
see: Colin Cowherd, Meghan Markle
Any time someone appears out of no where with a massive media push behind then, you can bet they're a plant for the left.
see: Colin Cowherd, Meghan Markle
Posted by: artemis at August 04, 2020 04:55 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 04, 2020 04:55 PM (t4of4)
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[Harvard stooge Laurence Tribe gives away the ultimate Democrat
election game plan to Joy Reid. As he explains, via massive use of
mail-in ballots which, as we have already seen, cause chaos, confusion,
and delay, the electoral college could be unable to choose a clear
winner. If no winner is determined by January 20 then, according to
Tribe, Nancy Pelosi would become president...if the Democrats retain
control of the House.]
Is Nancy still Speaker then? Or will a new Speaker be elected by The House?
election game plan to Joy Reid. As he explains, via massive use of
mail-in ballots which, as we have already seen, cause chaos, confusion,
and delay, the electoral college could be unable to choose a clear
winner. If no winner is determined by January 20 then, according to
Tribe, Nancy Pelosi would become president...if the Democrats retain
control of the House.]
Is Nancy still Speaker then? Or will a new Speaker be elected by The House?
Posted by: davidt at August 04, 2020 04:55 PM (l3+k2)
Posted by: wth at August 04, 2020 04:55 PM (v0R5T)
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>>The problem is he does not see that enforcing cancel equally can negate it by making it too onerous to support.
Yup.
He sees it as a virtue signal to defend Lefties -- like this makes him better because he defends those with whom he disagrees.
He doesn't understand that no one on the Left is impressed by this, no one says, "Oh that Shapiro chap can rise above it all and defend someone who likely hates him -- I am now so very inspired to do the same!"
Yup.
He sees it as a virtue signal to defend Lefties -- like this makes him better because he defends those with whom he disagrees.
He doesn't understand that no one on the Left is impressed by this, no one says, "Oh that Shapiro chap can rise above it all and defend someone who likely hates him -- I am now so very inspired to do the same!"
Posted by: Lizzy at August 04, 2020 04:56 PM (bDqIh)
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As you can imagine, I tapped out the second the modern administrative-welfare state is here to stay and we must learn to wield its power better was advocated.
Yeah, see, all that fighting and manliness and we must take back our heritage that was blathered up until that point?
WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU'RE FIGHTING AGAINST!
Also the entirety of the ruling class's ideology must be discredited when he calls, explicitly, for using the power of the State to reward friends and punish enemies ?
HAHAHAHAHA get chupacabra thunderfucked my dude.
You aren't calling for a return to the consent of the governed. You just want to have your foot in the boot on my face.
Yeah. Suck my girl dick just as deep as you suck technocratic Wilsonianism since that is, indeed, what he is advocating continuing.
As you can see, I find his arguments less than fully formed and completely unpersuasive.
Yeah, see, all that fighting and manliness and we must take back our heritage that was blathered up until that point?
WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU'RE FIGHTING AGAINST!
Also the entirety of the ruling class's ideology must be discredited when he calls, explicitly, for using the power of the State to reward friends and punish enemies ?
HAHAHAHAHA get chupacabra thunderfucked my dude.
You aren't calling for a return to the consent of the governed. You just want to have your foot in the boot on my face.
Yeah. Suck my girl dick just as deep as you suck technocratic Wilsonianism since that is, indeed, what he is advocating continuing.
As you can see, I find his arguments less than fully formed and completely unpersuasive.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 04, 2020 04:56 PM (GbPPJ)
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Now I have no idea what the hell I am. But Republican and Conservative surely don't fit anymore.
Posted by: deplorable unperson
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Sounds like Patriotic American to me.
Posted by: deplorable unperson
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Sounds like Patriotic American to me.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 04, 2020 04:56 PM (Rvt88)
Posted by: USNtakim at August 04, 2020 04:56 PM (0OmEj)
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O'Sullivan's Law come to full fruition.
Posted by: ShainS at August 04, 2020 04:57 PM (utdZo)
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I went from Reagan Republican to Limbaugh...
Posted by: deplorable unperson
Same. I knew what was bad, and voted for and supported my only other option. After lo these many years, I see government is not the solution. As others have mentioned, the elimination of FBI, CIA, DOE, the other DOE too (ed and energy), CDC, etc. Protect our borders, protect american jobs, protect american culture. I do not need a label for my position. But I know who the enemies are.
Posted by: deplorable unperson
Same. I knew what was bad, and voted for and supported my only other option. After lo these many years, I see government is not the solution. As others have mentioned, the elimination of FBI, CIA, DOE, the other DOE too (ed and energy), CDC, etc. Protect our borders, protect american jobs, protect american culture. I do not need a label for my position. But I know who the enemies are.
Posted by: MikeM at August 04, 2020 04:57 PM (KxjR7)
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I thought Azarad was a city in Peruvia?
Posted by: garrett at August 04, 2020 04:42 PM (MaVx/)
Thor's home planet?
I thought Azarad was a city in Peruvia?
Posted by: garrett at August 04, 2020 04:42 PM (MaVx/)
Thor's home planet?
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 04, 2020 04:57 PM (q1Pj5)
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Is it time to pick a different word? Rename "conservatism" in the same way the Dems went from Liberal to Progressive?
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore
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I've been trying to think of that new word since 2001, to no avail.
Posted by: zombie at August 04, 2020 04:54 PM-------
If only the "Libertarians" hadn't fucked up libertarian.
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Is it time to pick a different word? Rename "conservatism" in the same way the Dems went from Liberal to Progressive?
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore
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I've been trying to think of that new word since 2001, to no avail.
Posted by: zombie at August 04, 2020 04:54 PM-------
If only the "Libertarians" hadn't fucked up libertarian.
Posted by: irright at August 04, 2020 04:57 PM (pMGkg)
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Have you ever been gang raped by gladiators in a Turkish prison while making a movie?
What's it like?
Have you ever been gang raped by gladiators in a Turkish prison while making a movie?
What's it like?
Posted by: J. French at August 04, 2020 04:57 PM (d6DSt)
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4 Is it time to pick a different word? Rename "conservatism" in the same way the Dems went from Liberal to Progressive?
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at August 04, 2020 04:39 PM (xptlg)
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Reaverism?
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at August 04, 2020 04:39 PM (xptlg)
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Reaverism?
Posted by: TexasDan at August 04, 2020 04:58 PM (yL25O)
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79 Conservatives wouldn't even conserve women's bathrooms. I haven't considered myself a conservative for years. I have no interest in conserving any of this; instead, I want it all overturned. Reactionary is probably more accurate at this point.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at August 04, 2020 04:53 PM (UBhD9)
This is another situation where language has been polluted by the left making it hard to communicate clearly. Conservatism or reactionary as a name doesn't suggest a specific set of ideas so much as it does a kneejerk reaction. The Conservative movement of Goldwater was never about conserving the status quo but rolling back many of the left's gains.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at August 04, 2020 04:53 PM (UBhD9)
This is another situation where language has been polluted by the left making it hard to communicate clearly. Conservatism or reactionary as a name doesn't suggest a specific set of ideas so much as it does a kneejerk reaction. The Conservative movement of Goldwater was never about conserving the status quo but rolling back many of the left's gains.
Posted by: Someguy at August 04, 2020 04:58 PM (Zm+LZ)
Posted by: Archer at August 04, 2020 04:58 PM (gmo/4)
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Shapiro is a fool with a fool's face.
Posted by: eleven at August 04, 2020 04:58 PM (QLf0x)
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Conservative Inc convinced an entire generation of middle class right leaning voters to fight for billionaire interests. If Bezos pays a penny less than 35% marginal tax rate the terrorists will have won!!
Posted by: Asshoes at August 04, 2020 04:58 PM (miiX6)
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@97
That's a good point, you're not sure how to exactly define yourself, but you recognize who your enemies are.
It's like how you vote for school board candidates, by seeing who is supported by the teacher's union
That's a good point, you're not sure how to exactly define yourself, but you recognize who your enemies are.
It's like how you vote for school board candidates, by seeing who is supported by the teacher's union
Posted by: artemis at August 04, 2020 04:58 PM (AwPyG)
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79 Conservatives wouldn't even conserve women's bathrooms.
The women's bathrooms were already too far gone and had to be incinerated.
The women's bathrooms were already too far gone and had to be incinerated.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 04, 2020 04:59 PM (jydBM)
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I'm a proud reactionary at this point.
Posted by: Archer at August 04, 2020 04:59 PM (gmo/4)
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31 His main point is that Conservatism, Inc. still believes its mission is to defend society from a leftwing take-over.
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By supporting their candidate.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 04, 2020 04:46 PM (kA3Cp)
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Boom.
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By supporting their candidate.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 04, 2020 04:46 PM (kA3Cp)
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Boom.
Posted by: Gilded Age II at August 04, 2020 04:59 PM (BRkq2)
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Any news from cfo mom?
Posted by: vmom 2020 at August 04, 2020 04:59 PM (/jyQy)
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This is ultimately something like a default resting point that political elites tend towards. Policy-wise either facism or mercantilism(which amount to the same thing if for different reasons) tends to dominate.
Posted by: Someguy at August 04, 2020 04:52 PM (Zm+LZ)
You might as well just call it Cronyism, another face of the same old thing. As societies get fat and comfortable, the people controlling economic activity tend to take over the government, and the government takes them over in turn, until they become indistinguishable from each other. Once that happens, a Ruling Class develops and Government and Business work hand in hand to keep the poor ignorant plebs paying for everything without figuring out how controlled they are.
One of Communism's big failures was not to realize how fabulously wealthy the Ruling Class could make themselves if they embraced the fascist/mercantilist model.
Posted by: Someguy at August 04, 2020 04:52 PM (Zm+LZ)
You might as well just call it Cronyism, another face of the same old thing. As societies get fat and comfortable, the people controlling economic activity tend to take over the government, and the government takes them over in turn, until they become indistinguishable from each other. Once that happens, a Ruling Class develops and Government and Business work hand in hand to keep the poor ignorant plebs paying for everything without figuring out how controlled they are.
One of Communism's big failures was not to realize how fabulously wealthy the Ruling Class could make themselves if they embraced the fascist/mercantilist model.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 04, 2020 04:59 PM (Kpl3J)
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Back when I didn't know better, I read a Jonah Plagiarist Goldberg column about how Libertarians were unrealistic and Conservatives were awesome.
As an example he used the Department of Education. Said Libertarians want to burn it to the ground out of principle, but Conservatives would say the bureaucracy isn't going anywhere so they would keep it and turn it to teach conservative principles.
I think that was the first inkling that his mask was slipping, simply by accepting the premise of the Left and the Deep State.
As an example he used the Department of Education. Said Libertarians want to burn it to the ground out of principle, but Conservatives would say the bureaucracy isn't going anywhere so they would keep it and turn it to teach conservative principles.
I think that was the first inkling that his mask was slipping, simply by accepting the premise of the Left and the Deep State.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at August 04, 2020 04:59 PM (4k/Uz)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 04, 2020 04:59 PM (ufFY8)
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My labeling goes Pragmatist for the former Tea Party types and sane Civilization maintainers (there is a lot of overlap in the communities).
The former Left are the Insane Totalitarians, aka the Hungry for Power Over Others.
The former Left are the Insane Totalitarians, aka the Hungry for Power Over Others.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 04, 2020 04:59 PM (u82oZ)
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He sees it as a virtue signal to defend Lefties -- like this makes him better because he defends those with whom he disagrees.
He's like mom standing, wringing her hands telling dad not to be too hard on the boy when we need dad forcing the boy to smoke the entire pack of cigarettes until he's puking and never touches the things again.
He's like mom standing, wringing her hands telling dad not to be too hard on the boy when we need dad forcing the boy to smoke the entire pack of cigarettes until he's puking and never touches the things again.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 05:00 PM (KZzsI)
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America First? In contradistinction to the America Last crowd?
Posted by: ShainS at August 04, 2020 05:00 PM (utdZo)
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Non-Binary Ben is asshoe, but he does have Klavan, Walsh and Knowles on his channel, and all are 'ron-worthy watches.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 04, 2020 05:00 PM (FtO5h)
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I didn't read the whole piece. But if the assessment is that that ConInc is afflicted by comfort and fighting the last war, that's not really "it."
Maybe it was 40 years ago, but that was before I was born.
The ConInc I grew up with was on the fucking take the whole time.
I didn't read the whole piece. But if the assessment is that that ConInc is afflicted by comfort and fighting the last war, that's not really "it."
Maybe it was 40 years ago, but that was before I was born.
The ConInc I grew up with was on the fucking take the whole time.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 04, 2020 05:00 PM (Tm4zg)
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American conservatism suffers because it is an "anti" thing - like the rights in the Constitution, we talk about things you shouldn't restrict because the "are" instead of a series of thou shall nots. Leave me the fuck alone is hard for rote players to get their feeble minds around.
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at August 04, 2020 05:00 PM (nFRLh)
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@113
Whigger sounds a little too much like you-know-what. So, probably not
Whigger sounds a little too much like you-know-what. So, probably not
Posted by: artemis at August 04, 2020 05:00 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 05:00 PM (KZzsI)
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No it is equal to 5. Haven't you been paying attention?
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Well, damn.
Looks like I'm off to the re-education camp. Again.
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Well, damn.
Looks like I'm off to the re-education camp. Again.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at August 04, 2020 05:00 PM (4k/Uz)
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113 New Whigger Party?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 04, 2020 04:59 PM (ufFY
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Whigger/Master Party
I have noticed I'm the only one who seems to think "master" jokes are edgy and funny.
Oh well.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 04, 2020 04:59 PM (ufFY
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Whigger/Master Party
I have noticed I'm the only one who seems to think "master" jokes are edgy and funny.
Oh well.
Posted by: TexasDan at August 04, 2020 05:01 PM (yL25O)
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But wait, the Republicans are red, the Democrats are blue.
Boys have a penis.
Girls have a vagina.
Boys have a penis.
Girls have a vagina.
Posted by: little kid at August 04, 2020 05:01 PM (v0R5T)
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We'll call ourselves the Reasonable-ists
Posted by: DB- just DB. Bird= the word at August 04, 2020 05:02 PM (iTXRQ)
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On the cig thing - I made it through 2 and never touched another, baby sister as the legend goes has smoked a pack a day since.
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at August 04, 2020 05:03 PM (nFRLh)
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107 79 Conservatives wouldn't even conserve women's bathrooms.
The women's bathrooms were already too far gone and had to be incinerated.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 04, 2020 04:59 PM (jydBM)
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Well, but at least women aren't confined to the women's room anymore. They can use any room they want too.
5th door on the right.
The women's bathrooms were already too far gone and had to be incinerated.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 04, 2020 04:59 PM (jydBM)
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Well, but at least women aren't confined to the women's room anymore. They can use any room they want too.
5th door on the right.
Posted by: TexasDan at August 04, 2020 05:03 PM (yL25O)
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Who is this person and why should I give a rat's a$$ about their opinion?
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 04, 2020 04:41 PM (JUOKG)
You shouldn't because he's calling for Big Government but with him pushing what he wants.
What infuriates me is that I don't disagree with many of the policy positions, yes, including demographic collapse.
But I will not sit here and be yammered to that there is now or ever will be anything conservative in the slightest by lying back and getting surprise otter analed by the administrative state.
This is a hill upon which I should die. No. Go to hell. Be fucking HONEST and just admit that you want the power to push what you like, not that you believe that the power of the government should be limited.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 04, 2020 04:41 PM (JUOKG)
You shouldn't because he's calling for Big Government but with him pushing what he wants.
What infuriates me is that I don't disagree with many of the policy positions, yes, including demographic collapse.
But I will not sit here and be yammered to that there is now or ever will be anything conservative in the slightest by lying back and getting surprise otter analed by the administrative state.
This is a hill upon which I should die. No. Go to hell. Be fucking HONEST and just admit that you want the power to push what you like, not that you believe that the power of the government should be limited.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 04, 2020 05:03 PM (GbPPJ)
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"Again, they just can't see this or admit this. They still think it's 2003 and that we're doing a pretty great job of keeping the Maoists at bay."
But what about all the progress I'm making destroying liberals with facts and logic!?!?
But what about all the progress I'm making destroying liberals with facts and logic!?!?
Posted by: Lil' Ben Shapiro at August 04, 2020 05:03 PM (DEtB+)
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I made fun of leftwing professor (BIRM) back in the early 2000s talking about "rebranding" the Democrats, since the label "liberal" had become baggage.
We're in a similar position. It's time for us to rebrand our positions as "pragmatic."
We're in a similar position. It's time for us to rebrand our positions as "pragmatic."
Posted by: Furious George at August 04, 2020 05:04 PM (9vQJW)
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120 @113
Whigger sounds a little too much like you-know-what. So, probably not
Posted by: artemis at August 04, 2020 05:00 PM (AwPyG)
even if the whiggers started doing whap music?
Whigger sounds a little too much like you-know-what. So, probably not
Posted by: artemis at August 04, 2020 05:00 PM (AwPyG)
even if the whiggers started doing whap music?
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 04, 2020 05:04 PM (Kpl3J)
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I thought Whigger was a pretty good band back in the day.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at August 04, 2020 05:05 PM (4k/Uz)
133
III percenter
Posted by: Archer at August 04, 2020 05:05 PM (gmo/4)
134
the correct dividing criterion is freedom-vs.-collectivism.//
Totally agree, zombie, but how do we get there? The collectivists are mad with passion and zealotry; like ISIS, their war is eternal.
The GOP is moribund, and I understand why. They are too scared to demand a complete rollback of collectivism. They don't get the New Rules. Trump is the only one with the guts to do it, but he will only have four more years.
Totally agree, zombie, but how do we get there? The collectivists are mad with passion and zealotry; like ISIS, their war is eternal.
The GOP is moribund, and I understand why. They are too scared to demand a complete rollback of collectivism. They don't get the New Rules. Trump is the only one with the guts to do it, but he will only have four more years.
Posted by: PJ at August 04, 2020 05:05 PM (qlTN9)
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OMG it just started storming! In Florida! In the SUMMER!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 04, 2020 05:05 PM (jydBM)
Posted by: Secret Squirrel at August 04, 2020 05:05 PM (xyImL)
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>We're in a similar position. It's time for us to rebrand our positions as "pragmatic."
you'd have to teach an entire generation of public school graduates what 'pragmatic' means
you'd have to teach an entire generation of public school graduates what 'pragmatic' means
Posted by: DB- just DB. Bird= the word at August 04, 2020 05:06 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at August 04, 2020 05:06 PM (4k/Uz)
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wtf is the fascination with ben shapiro's sister
Posted by: DB- just DB. Bird= the word at August 04, 2020 05:07 PM (iTXRQ)
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The solution is piano wire and one way helicopter rides. Or ten year service building the dignity canals.
Posted by: USNtakim at August 04, 2020 05:07 PM (0OmEj)
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And there it is! The antisemitism.
Posted by: Archer at August 04, 2020 05:07 PM (gmo/4)
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By not having a hill to die on eventually you run out of hills.
Posted by: MAGA at August 04, 2020 05:07 PM (bloh/)
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138 The only thing keeping me from wanting to woo Ben Shapiro's sister is Ben Shapiro.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at August 04, 2020 05:06 PM (4k/Uz)
By "woo" I assume you mean "tit-bang."
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at August 04, 2020 05:06 PM (4k/Uz)
By "woo" I assume you mean "tit-bang."
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 04, 2020 05:07 PM (jydBM)
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132 I thought Whigger was a pretty good band back in the day.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at August 04, 2020 05:05 PM (4k/Uz)
Woman is the Whigger of the World.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at August 04, 2020 05:05 PM (4k/Uz)
Woman is the Whigger of the World.
Posted by: John Lennon at August 04, 2020 05:07 PM (Kpl3J)
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Am I missing something....?
Older pennies which had a much higher copper amount, and represent most of the pennies in circulation are really what they are trying to get rid of. A couple of years ago they had to pass a law to make it illegal to melt down pennies or to export them to another country where they could be melted. 2.5 grams of copper would be worth about 1.6 cents. So it only takes 62% copper to be worth a penny.
Am I missing something....?
Older pennies which had a much higher copper amount, and represent most of the pennies in circulation are really what they are trying to get rid of. A couple of years ago they had to pass a law to make it illegal to melt down pennies or to export them to another country where they could be melted. 2.5 grams of copper would be worth about 1.6 cents. So it only takes 62% copper to be worth a penny.
Posted by: An Observation at August 04, 2020 05:08 PM (ffPdH)
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'Liberal' - 'Socialist' - 'Democrat' - 'Republican' . . . those and any other socio-political descriptors are so out of date as to be useless. They each have the distinct disadvantage of being 'Un-WOKE!.' I no longer consider myself a 'Republican' or a 'Conservative' . . . I consider myself a Non-Affiliated Independent Political Thinker Beholden to No Partei (and yes, that spelling is purposeful) . . .
Posted by: Dr_No at August 04, 2020 05:08 PM (mu5GU)
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132 I thought Whigger was a pretty good band back in the day.
oo-ee-oo I look just like Buddy Holly
Oh, oh and you're Mary Tyler Moore...
oo-ee-oo I look just like Buddy Holly
Oh, oh and you're Mary Tyler Moore...
Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 04, 2020 05:08 PM (FtO5h)
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The only thing keeping me from wanting to woo Ben Shapiro's sister is Ben Shapiro.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at August 04, 2020 05:06 PM (4k/Uz)
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Why?
He's rich.
Beat his bank account numbers out of him and go on a luxury cruise with Abby.
Ahoy!
The only thing keeping me from wanting to woo Ben Shapiro's sister is Ben Shapiro.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at August 04, 2020 05:06 PM (4k/Uz)
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Why?
He's rich.
Beat his bank account numbers out of him and go on a luxury cruise with Abby.
Ahoy!
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 04, 2020 05:08 PM (Tm4zg)
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An Italian Indian sheds a tear every time a true conservative fails to display xis mask in the proper manner.
Posted by: Rachel Levine's Eyes of Iron at August 04, 2020 05:08 PM (IHxQZ)
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93 As you can imagine, I tapped out the second the modern administrative-welfare state is here to stay and we must learn to wield its power better was advocated.
Yeah, see, all that fighting and manliness and we must take back our heritage that was blathered up until that point?
WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU'RE FIGHTING AGAINST!
Also the entirety of the ruling class's ideology must be discredited when he calls, explicitly, for using the power of the State to reward friends and punish enemies ?
HAHAHAHAHA get chupacabra thunderfucked my dude.
You aren't calling for a return to the consent of the governed. You just want to have your foot in the boot on my face.
Yeah. Suck my girl dick just as deep as you suck technocratic Wilsonianism since that is, indeed, what he is advocating continuing.
As you can see, I find his arguments less than fully formed and completely unpersuasive.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 04, 2020 04:56 PM (GbPPJ)
Didn't that shithead George Will once try to claim that we needed immigrants to prop up social security?
Yeah, see, all that fighting and manliness and we must take back our heritage that was blathered up until that point?
WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU'RE FIGHTING AGAINST!
Also the entirety of the ruling class's ideology must be discredited when he calls, explicitly, for using the power of the State to reward friends and punish enemies ?
HAHAHAHAHA get chupacabra thunderfucked my dude.
You aren't calling for a return to the consent of the governed. You just want to have your foot in the boot on my face.
Yeah. Suck my girl dick just as deep as you suck technocratic Wilsonianism since that is, indeed, what he is advocating continuing.
As you can see, I find his arguments less than fully formed and completely unpersuasive.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 04, 2020 04:56 PM (GbPPJ)
Didn't that shithead George Will once try to claim that we needed immigrants to prop up social security?
Posted by: Buzzion at August 04, 2020 05:08 PM (u/HW3)
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isn't maxine waters a whigger ?
Posted by: mayate at August 04, 2020 05:08 PM (ZYaA2)
Posted by: wth at August 04, 2020 05:08 PM (v0R5T)
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130 ......We're in a similar position. It's time for us to rebrand our positions as "pragmatic."
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The people against conservatism are not against conservatism because of the name. These people have been taught to be self hating destructionists...they hate everything and destroy all within reach. A new name will not change this.
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The people against conservatism are not against conservatism because of the name. These people have been taught to be self hating destructionists...they hate everything and destroy all within reach. A new name will not change this.
Posted by: Pliney at August 04, 2020 05:09 PM (nzKWW)
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wtf is the fascination with ben shapiro's sister
There's a musician out there with huge breasts that has Ben Shapiro's face and its a running joke here that she's his sister.
There's a musician out there with huge breasts that has Ben Shapiro's face and its a running joke here that she's his sister.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 05:09 PM (KZzsI)
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wtf is the fascination with ben shapiro's sister
Posted by: DB- just DB. Bird= the word at August 04, 2020 05:07 PM (iTXRQ)
She has a great rack.
I have Absolute Rack Privilege to judge this.
Posted by: DB- just DB. Bird= the word at August 04, 2020 05:07 PM (iTXRQ)
She has a great rack.
I have Absolute Rack Privilege to judge this.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 04, 2020 05:09 PM (GbPPJ)
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Great rack butterface.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 04, 2020 05:09 PM (FtO5h)
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Conservatism is also about not wearing masks during a pandemic.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 04, 2020 05:09 PM (ykYG2)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 04, 2020 05:10 PM (FtO5h)
Posted by: garrett at August 04, 2020 05:10 PM (MaVx/)
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I prefer to call myself a Freedomista! A defender of Western Civilization. Conservatives haven't won anything, ever. Conservatives never ever fight. Oh, and Buckley was a phag, and a cafeteria catholic. Eff Conservative Inc.
Posted by: Ed Teach, Maritime Reclamation Specialist at August 04, 2020 05:10 PM (O6/GO)
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Of all the millions of words expended on what is already gone, a few with meaning would be nice.
Ben Shapiro, with his over-caffeinated machine gun rhythm, has less impact than a Rorschach who simply utters "No" and means it.
Ben Shapiro, with his over-caffeinated machine gun rhythm, has less impact than a Rorschach who simply utters "No" and means it.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 04, 2020 05:10 PM (z79tQ)
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Didn't that shithead George Will once try to claim that we needed immigrants to prop up social security?
As pro-Social Security arguments go, its a pretty decent one, but I would argue we should dump Social Security entirely and replace it with a better system that the government has no power or control over.
As pro-Social Security arguments go, its a pretty decent one, but I would argue we should dump Social Security entirely and replace it with a better system that the government has no power or control over.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 05:10 PM (KZzsI)
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wtf is the fascination with ben shapiro's sister
Go look up pictures of her. It wont take very long for you to get your answer.
Go look up pictures of her. It wont take very long for you to get your answer.
Posted by: An Observation at August 04, 2020 05:10 PM (ffPdH)
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great rack but a two bagger
Posted by: mayate at August 04, 2020 05:10 PM (ZYaA2)
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139
wtf is the fascination with ben shapiro's sister
Posted by: DB- just DB. Bird= the word at August 04, 2020 05:07 PM (iTXRQ)
Heavy the crown...
wtf is the fascination with ben shapiro's sister
Posted by: DB- just DB. Bird= the word at August 04, 2020 05:07 PM (iTXRQ)
Heavy the crown...
Posted by: ben shapiro's sister's tits at August 04, 2020 05:10 PM (l3+k2)
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Didn't that shithead George Will once try to claim that we needed immigrants to prop up social security?
Posted by: Buzzion at August 04, 2020 05:08 PM (u/HW3)
Oh hell the Bush Mafia preached that for 20 years. I still remember Karl Rove going on about it.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 04, 2020 05:08 PM (u/HW3)
Oh hell the Bush Mafia preached that for 20 years. I still remember Karl Rove going on about it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 04, 2020 05:11 PM (Kpl3J)
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There's a musician out there with huge breasts that has Ben Shapiro's face and its a running joke here that she's his sister.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 05:09 PM (KZzsI)
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No, she really is his sister. Giant cans. Baby Snark's whole body is smaller than one of 'em.
There's a musician out there with huge breasts that has Ben Shapiro's face and its a running joke here that she's his sister.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 05:09 PM (KZzsI)
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No, she really is his sister. Giant cans. Baby Snark's whole body is smaller than one of 'em.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 04, 2020 05:11 PM (Tm4zg)
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157 Conservatism is also about not wearing masks during a pandemic.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 04, 2020 05:09 PM (ykYG2)
Ok Karen.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 04, 2020 05:09 PM (ykYG2)
Ok Karen.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 04, 2020 05:11 PM (u/HW3)
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And if the traditional nuclear family ideal is off the table, then so is conservatism.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 04, 2020 04:50 PM (H5knJ)
Yup. The betrayal of basic Christian principle is best illustrated by the Christ-haters on the Supreme Court, and Clarence Thomas will forever have my admiration for standing up to them. People like Ben Shapiro and Jonah Goldberg hate Jesus as much as Elena Kagan and RBG, and are core influencers in Conservative Inc.
Yet when you look back at Irving Kristol and Lucianne Goldberg, it's pretty clear they had no particular hostility to the American system of governance and traditional values. Or they did, and just hid it far better. It's interesting that Jerry Seinfeld and Rachel Bloom have been more effective, even by accident, in critiquing the modernist project than Ben Shapiro ever has been.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 04, 2020 04:50 PM (H5knJ)
Yup. The betrayal of basic Christian principle is best illustrated by the Christ-haters on the Supreme Court, and Clarence Thomas will forever have my admiration for standing up to them. People like Ben Shapiro and Jonah Goldberg hate Jesus as much as Elena Kagan and RBG, and are core influencers in Conservative Inc.
Yet when you look back at Irving Kristol and Lucianne Goldberg, it's pretty clear they had no particular hostility to the American system of governance and traditional values. Or they did, and just hid it far better. It's interesting that Jerry Seinfeld and Rachel Bloom have been more effective, even by accident, in critiquing the modernist project than Ben Shapiro ever has been.
Posted by: trev006 at August 04, 2020 05:11 PM (MFgNw)
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Thanks for the clarification Zombie.
I've been trying out names for what we as the horde, Americans, and our common wealth allies stand for.
Freedom is it. Leave me alone to succeed or fail. The enemies of freedom have exposed themselves these past few years and I expect there are more still uncovered.
I don't like the term Freedom Inc but rather Freedom for All. Now, excuse me while I paint myself blue and head to the gun club
I've been trying out names for what we as the horde, Americans, and our common wealth allies stand for.
Freedom is it. Leave me alone to succeed or fail. The enemies of freedom have exposed themselves these past few years and I expect there are more still uncovered.
I don't like the term Freedom Inc but rather Freedom for All. Now, excuse me while I paint myself blue and head to the gun club
Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at August 04, 2020 05:12 PM (IYZ+m)
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As you can see, I find his arguments less than fully formed and completely unpersuasive.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 04, 2020 04:56 PM (GbPPJ)
And this is why we love you so <3
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 04, 2020 04:56 PM (GbPPJ)
And this is why we love you so <3
Posted by: spypeach at August 04, 2020 05:12 PM (Up/Jb)
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162 Didn't that shithead George Will once try to claim that we needed immigrants to prop up social security?
As pro-Social Security arguments go, its a pretty decent one, but I would argue we should dump Social Security entirely and replace it with a better system that the government has no power or control over.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 05:10 PM (KZzsI)
It's always twisted with him though. He just says immigration when the topic is illegal immigration.
As pro-Social Security arguments go, its a pretty decent one, but I would argue we should dump Social Security entirely and replace it with a better system that the government has no power or control over.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 05:10 PM (KZzsI)
It's always twisted with him though. He just says immigration when the topic is illegal immigration.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 04, 2020 05:12 PM (u/HW3)
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170 And if the traditional nuclear family ideal is off the table, then so is conservatism.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 04, 2020 04:50 PM (H5knJ)
Yup. The betrayal of basic Christian principle is best illustrated by the Christ-haters on the Supreme Court, and Clarence Thomas will forever have my admiration for standing up to them. People like Ben Shapiro and Jonah Goldberg hate Jesus as much as Elena Kagan and RBG, and are core influencers in Conservative Inc.
Yet when you look back at Irving Kristol and Lucianne Goldberg, it's pretty clear they had no particular hostility to the American system of governance and traditional values. Or they did, and just hid it far better. It's interesting that Jerry Seinfeld and Rachel Bloom have been more effective, even by accident, in critiquing the modernist project than Ben Shapiro ever has been.
Posted by: trev006 at August 04, 2020 05:11 PM (MFgNw)
It's simply a matter of descendants frequently being shitheads relative to the parents who earned their particular roles/spots.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 04, 2020 04:50 PM (H5knJ)
Yup. The betrayal of basic Christian principle is best illustrated by the Christ-haters on the Supreme Court, and Clarence Thomas will forever have my admiration for standing up to them. People like Ben Shapiro and Jonah Goldberg hate Jesus as much as Elena Kagan and RBG, and are core influencers in Conservative Inc.
Yet when you look back at Irving Kristol and Lucianne Goldberg, it's pretty clear they had no particular hostility to the American system of governance and traditional values. Or they did, and just hid it far better. It's interesting that Jerry Seinfeld and Rachel Bloom have been more effective, even by accident, in critiquing the modernist project than Ben Shapiro ever has been.
Posted by: trev006 at August 04, 2020 05:11 PM (MFgNw)
It's simply a matter of descendants frequently being shitheads relative to the parents who earned their particular roles/spots.
Posted by: Someguy at August 04, 2020 05:13 PM (Zm+LZ)
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Trump revealed the charade--liberals aren't really liberal; Conservatives aren't conservative; Republicans are not really republican and Democrats are not truly democratc.
That the people who pushed hardest for war in the early 2000's are on the same side as the people who wanted to hang them as war criminals ---tells us all we really need to know.
That the people who pushed hardest for war in the early 2000's are on the same side as the people who wanted to hang them as war criminals ---tells us all we really need to know.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 04, 2020 05:13 PM (gtdYu)
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>wtf is the fascination with ben shapiro's sister
Go look up pictures of her. It wont take very long for you to get your answer.
Posted by: An Observation at
Heaven to Betsy are those things real?
Go look up pictures of her. It wont take very long for you to get your answer.
Posted by: An Observation at
Heaven to Betsy are those things real?
Posted by: DB- just DB. Bird= the word at August 04, 2020 05:13 PM (iTXRQ)
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We're the Popular Front for the Liberation of America.
Posted by: Archer at August 04, 2020 05:13 PM (gmo/4)
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Just had an interesting conversation with my direct supervisor. I suspected he was a MAGA man, but had not had the chance to talk with him.
Well, he's 100% Trump.
Nice.
Well, he's 100% Trump.
Nice.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at August 04, 2020 05:13 PM (VTfbZ)
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>>Go look up pictures of her. It wont take very long for you to get your answer.
You won't need Two Clues...though, you can't miss them.
You won't need Two Clues...though, you can't miss them.
Posted by: garrett at August 04, 2020 05:13 PM (MaVx/)
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I no longer want to limit Governmental power. I want us to take over the Government and for it to have HUGE powers, enough to lay waste to all the cities that oppose us. And after we lay waste to our enemies and burn their cities and relive ourselves in their water supply systems, THEN we can all come together and see if they want to talk about limiting government power a little bit.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 04, 2020 05:13 PM (Kpl3J)
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Didn't that shithead George Will once try to claim that we needed immigrants to prop up social security?
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That's a weird euphemism for "fuck his wife."
Didn't that shithead George Will once try to claim that we needed immigrants to prop up social security?
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That's a weird euphemism for "fuck his wife."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 04, 2020 05:13 PM (Tm4zg)
Posted by: garrett at August 04, 2020 05:14 PM (MaVx/)
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She has a great rack.
I have Absolute Rack Privilege to judge this.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 04, 2020 05:09 PM (GbPPJ)
With a great rack comes great responsibility.
I have Absolute Rack Privilege to judge this.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 04, 2020 05:09 PM (GbPPJ)
With a great rack comes great responsibility.
Posted by: Stagger Lee at August 04, 2020 05:14 PM (q1Pj5)
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Older pennies which had a much higher copper amount, and represent most of the pennies in circulation are really what they are trying to get rid of. A couple of years ago they had to pass a law to make it illegal to melt down pennies or to export them to another country where they could be melted. 2.5 grams of copper would be worth about 1.6 cents. So it only takes 62% copper to be worth a penny.
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Pennies haven't been 100% copper for a loooong time.
Most of the metal in the vast majority of pennies in circulation are far far more zinc than copper.
For $2.90/lb, the juice would not be worth the squeeze to somehow snatch up extreme vintage coins (worth more on the collector market than the base metal value btw) by engineering a coin shortage.
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Pennies haven't been 100% copper for a loooong time.
Most of the metal in the vast majority of pennies in circulation are far far more zinc than copper.
For $2.90/lb, the juice would not be worth the squeeze to somehow snatch up extreme vintage coins (worth more on the collector market than the base metal value btw) by engineering a coin shortage.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at August 04, 2020 05:14 PM (4k/Uz)
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175 >wtf is the fascination with ben shapiro's sister
Go look up pictures of her. It wont take very long for you to get your answer.
Posted by: An Observation at
Heaven to Betsy are those things real?
Posted by: DB- just DB. Bird= the word at August 04, 2020 05:13 PM (iTXRQ)
hahah welcome to the club!
Go look up pictures of her. It wont take very long for you to get your answer.
Posted by: An Observation at
Heaven to Betsy are those things real?
Posted by: DB- just DB. Bird= the word at August 04, 2020 05:13 PM (iTXRQ)
hahah welcome to the club!
Posted by: Secret Squirrel at August 04, 2020 05:14 PM (xyImL)
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179 I no longer want to limit Governmental power. I want us to take over the Government and for it to have HUGE powers, enough to lay waste to all the cities that oppose us. And after we lay waste to our enemies and burn their cities and relive ourselves in their water supply systems, THEN we can all come together and see if they want to talk about limiting government power a little bit.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 04, 2020 05:13 PM (Kpl3J)
We don't need to talk with them about it. I think any restructuring of the government should happen without their input.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 04, 2020 05:13 PM (Kpl3J)
We don't need to talk with them about it. I think any restructuring of the government should happen without their input.
Posted by: Someguy at August 04, 2020 05:14 PM (Zm+LZ)
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As for a contingent election, it is done by the new House, not the old one, so Pelosi may well not be involved anyway, either as Speaker or, under the 20th amendment and separate statute, as stand-in president.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 04, 2020 05:14 PM (OTzUX)
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Guy Smiley, I knew what you meant.
Didn't that shithead George Will once try to claim that we needed immigrants to prop up social security?
Posted by: Buzzion at August 04, 2020 05:08 PM (u/HW3)
Yuuuuup.
Akshually illegal aliens are a net economic gain is an idiotic tenet of belief on the Left and Con Inc.
Back to the mask thing, I've got HGTV on in the background and the woman in charge of the remodel just yelled at a guy because he wasn't wearing a mask.
Yes, when you are demoing an old house and are taking down plaster (which is probably mold infested) you should wear a N95 mask.
That is acceptable Karening.
Didn't that shithead George Will once try to claim that we needed immigrants to prop up social security?
Posted by: Buzzion at August 04, 2020 05:08 PM (u/HW3)
Yuuuuup.
Akshually illegal aliens are a net economic gain is an idiotic tenet of belief on the Left and Con Inc.
Back to the mask thing, I've got HGTV on in the background and the woman in charge of the remodel just yelled at a guy because he wasn't wearing a mask.
Yes, when you are demoing an old house and are taking down plaster (which is probably mold infested) you should wear a N95 mask.
That is acceptable Karening.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 04, 2020 05:15 PM (GbPPJ)
188
Saving the country is not the hill to die on.
Posted by: Ripley at August 04, 2020 05:15 PM (MxEKc)
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>>Conservatism is also about not wearing masks during a pandemic.
When did the Toilet Hobo go all White College Educated Vervix on us?
When did the Toilet Hobo go all White College Educated Vervix on us?
Posted by: garrett at August 04, 2020 05:15 PM (MaVx/)
Posted by: vmom 2020 at August 04, 2020 05:15 PM (/jyQy)
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The turning point was the fall of the USSR. Without the existential threat of communism the libertarians started to pull away from conservatives due to differences on social issues. Progressives did the same with blue-collar conservatives.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 04, 2020 04:51 PM (SgjGX)
Winning the Cold War removed a central rallying point. Plus academia had to lose touch with reality to rationalize the outcome. Slick and his ilk talked about a "peace dividend" which just meant moar money to spend on their favorite boondoggles.
Never was a victory so completely squandered. Except in eastern Europe.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 04, 2020 04:51 PM (SgjGX)
Winning the Cold War removed a central rallying point. Plus academia had to lose touch with reality to rationalize the outcome. Slick and his ilk talked about a "peace dividend" which just meant moar money to spend on their favorite boondoggles.
Never was a victory so completely squandered. Except in eastern Europe.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 04, 2020 05:16 PM (y7DUB)
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Although really what you're proposing Tom is a temporary Revolutionary Dictatorship. Which is an intermediate step for reestablishing the Republic at this point regardless of how we slice it.
Posted by: Someguy at August 04, 2020 05:16 PM (Zm+LZ)
193
We're the Popular Front for the Liberation of America.
Posted by: Archer at August 04, 2020 05:13 PM (gmo/4)
Maybe a little too Middle Eastern
Posted by: Archer at August 04, 2020 05:13 PM (gmo/4)
Maybe a little too Middle Eastern
Posted by: GOPe at August 04, 2020 05:16 PM (FokEf)
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We don't need to talk with them about it. I think any restructuring of the government should happen without their input.
Posted by: Someguy at August 04, 2020 05:14 PM (Zm+LZ)
awww. Can we at least make them say "thank you sir may I have another!!!!"
Posted by: Someguy at August 04, 2020 05:14 PM (Zm+LZ)
awww. Can we at least make them say "thank you sir may I have another!!!!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 04, 2020 05:16 PM (Kpl3J)
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so now he's going to spam every thread with his mask bullshit ? fucking limey
Posted by: mayate at August 04, 2020 05:17 PM (ZYaA2)
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I don't think Ben Shapiro's sister is ugly. I think she has a cute.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 04, 2020 05:17 PM (gtdYu)
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Was Abigail Shapiro the one ace told, "Nice rack?"
Posted by: davidt at August 04, 2020 05:17 PM (l3+k2)
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Splitter!
Posted by: Independent Non-Affiliated Thinker Beholden to No Political Partei at August 04, 2020 05:18 PM (an7Mv)
Posted by: Michael the Texan at August 04, 2020 05:18 PM (9IdCK)
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I think Hillary named us, and we ought to pick it up proudly "Deplorables".
Posted by: An Observation at August 04, 2020 05:18 PM (ffPdH)
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We're the Popular Front for the Liberation of America.
Posted by: Archer at August 04, 2020 05:13 PM (gmo/4)
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"Splitters!"
- American Popular Liberation Front
Posted by: Archer at August 04, 2020 05:13 PM (gmo/4)
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"Splitters!"
- American Popular Liberation Front
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at August 04, 2020 05:18 PM (dfRN6)
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You know, this mail-in ballot screw up where the ballots do not have a postmarked date is a slam dunk case (for me) to disallow them.
The law requires a postmarked date on them to be valid.
Simple as that.
It is the State's major fuckup. Live with the consequences, and wake the fuck up, people. GO TO THE POLLING PLACE ON ELECTION DAY.
Donny Two Scoops should start telling people to NOT use the mail-in system, and to physically GO to the polling place, as that is where your vote is actually (we hope) counted.
He needs to push this idea hard.
The law requires a postmarked date on them to be valid.
Simple as that.
It is the State's major fuckup. Live with the consequences, and wake the fuck up, people. GO TO THE POLLING PLACE ON ELECTION DAY.
Donny Two Scoops should start telling people to NOT use the mail-in system, and to physically GO to the polling place, as that is where your vote is actually (we hope) counted.
He needs to push this idea hard.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 04, 2020 05:18 PM (ufFY8)
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>>Was Abigail Shapiro the one ace told, "Nice rack?"
It's a nervous tick. Ace says that to everyone.
It's a nervous tick. Ace says that to everyone.
Posted by: garrett at August 04, 2020 05:18 PM (MaVx/)
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ack to the mask thing, I've got HGTV on in the background and the woman in charge of the remodel just yelled at a guy because he wasn't wearing a mask.
Yes, when you are demoing an old house and are taking down plaster (which is probably mold infested) you should wear a N95 mask.
That is acceptable Karening.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 04, 2020 05:15 PM (GbPPJ)
Yeah because you don't want that shit in your lungs. It's why so much of Asia does the mask thing, not for infection but air quality. Air particles small enough to pass through go in your lungs and back out. Larger stuff won't make it to your lungs. It's a Goldilocks zone that the mask is meant to protect you against hose particles. Not some virus.
Yes, when you are demoing an old house and are taking down plaster (which is probably mold infested) you should wear a N95 mask.
That is acceptable Karening.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 04, 2020 05:15 PM (GbPPJ)
Yeah because you don't want that shit in your lungs. It's why so much of Asia does the mask thing, not for infection but air quality. Air particles small enough to pass through go in your lungs and back out. Larger stuff won't make it to your lungs. It's a Goldilocks zone that the mask is meant to protect you against hose particles. Not some virus.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 04, 2020 05:19 PM (u/HW3)
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Insty has a funny article about feminists who rejected feminism and decided to be feminine. With before and after photos, of course. I wouldn't say the after are super hot, but the improvement *is* pretty dramatic in some cases.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 04, 2020 05:20 PM (6XLoz)
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Trump revealed the charade--liberals aren't really liberal; Conservatives aren't conservative; Republicans are not really republican and Democrats are not truly democratc.
THAT the people who pushed hardest for war in the early 2000's are now on the same side as the people who wanted to hang them as war criminals ---tells us all we really need to know.
THAT the people who pushed hardest for war in the early 2000's are now on the same side as the people who wanted to hang them as war criminals ---tells us all we really need to know.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 04, 2020 05:20 PM (gtdYu)
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It's fortunate for her that she has big tits. Otherwise everyone would be talking about how she looks liked her brother.
Posted by: Mark1971 at August 04, 2020 05:20 PM (xPl2J)
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Donny Two Scoops should start telling people to NOT use the mail-in system, and to physically GO to the polling place, as that is where your vote is actually (we hope) counted.
He needs to push this idea hard.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 04, 2020 05:18 PM (ufFY
If you can come together to protest for commies, you should be able to individually go and vote.
It's like ol Patches O'Houlihan said in Dodgeball- "You can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball!"
Same thing, really. Science!
He needs to push this idea hard.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 04, 2020 05:18 PM (ufFY
If you can come together to protest for commies, you should be able to individually go and vote.
It's like ol Patches O'Houlihan said in Dodgeball- "You can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball!"
Same thing, really. Science!
Posted by: Secret Squirrel at August 04, 2020 05:20 PM (xyImL)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 04, 2020 05:20 PM (oVJmc)
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OT.
Has anyone heard from cfo mom? She was in a bad way on the ONT last night and was going to the ER this morning.
Has anyone heard from cfo mom? She was in a bad way on the ONT last night and was going to the ER this morning.
Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at August 04, 2020 05:20 PM (IYZ+m)
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Liberation Front for Popular America!
Posted by: Archer at August 04, 2020 05:20 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 04, 2020 05:20 PM (GbPPJ)
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Sadly, Conservatism not conserving anything is not a new thing.
"It may be inferred again that the present movement for women's rights will certainly prevail from the history of its only opponent: Northern conservatism. This is a party which never conserves anything. Its history has been that it demurs to each aggression of the progressive party, and aims to save its credit by a respectable amount of growling, but always acquiesces at last in the innovation. What was the resisted novelty of yesterday is today one of the accepted principles of conservatism; it is now conservative only in affecting to resist the next innovation, which will tomorrow be forced upon its timidity and will be succeeded by some third revolution; to be denounced and then adopted in its turn. American conservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward towards perdition."
- Robert Lewis Dabney, 1897
"It may be inferred again that the present movement for women's rights will certainly prevail from the history of its only opponent: Northern conservatism. This is a party which never conserves anything. Its history has been that it demurs to each aggression of the progressive party, and aims to save its credit by a respectable amount of growling, but always acquiesces at last in the innovation. What was the resisted novelty of yesterday is today one of the accepted principles of conservatism; it is now conservative only in affecting to resist the next innovation, which will tomorrow be forced upon its timidity and will be succeeded by some third revolution; to be denounced and then adopted in its turn. American conservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward towards perdition."
- Robert Lewis Dabney, 1897
Posted by: DemocratsHateWhitePeople at August 04, 2020 05:21 PM (pRCiG)
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OT:
I think Disney just made a huge mistake.
Their live action remake of Mulan was supposed to come out in March. It cost $200 million and its marketing budget would have been just as large (it'll probably end up smaller now without the actual theatrical release).
They've given up on the theatrical release, and they're doing a weird hybrid at home release. You have to be subscribed to Disney+ and then pay an extra $30 to view it.
I do not think they're going to make the kind of money they need to make with this. This feels like desperation.
And it entertains me.
I think Disney just made a huge mistake.
Their live action remake of Mulan was supposed to come out in March. It cost $200 million and its marketing budget would have been just as large (it'll probably end up smaller now without the actual theatrical release).
They've given up on the theatrical release, and they're doing a weird hybrid at home release. You have to be subscribed to Disney+ and then pay an extra $30 to view it.
I do not think they're going to make the kind of money they need to make with this. This feels like desperation.
And it entertains me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at August 04, 2020 05:21 PM (LvTSG)
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It's always twisted with him though. He just says immigration when the topic is illegal immigration.
Yeah all the globalist corporatist guys do that, its infuriating. Its also a sophistry trick to avoid the debate.
Yeah all the globalist corporatist guys do that, its infuriating. Its also a sophistry trick to avoid the debate.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 05:22 PM (KZzsI)
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I took a brief look at David's piece and got to the part that AtC mentioned and rolled my eyes.
The welfare state is why we are where we are, and it needs to be ripped out by the roots.
Because we cannot afford it. Or, I should say, we're saddling our children with debts that cannot ever be repaid.
David really thinks I'm going to trust someone with power who says, "trust me, we're different" when that's the line that's been used to promote the GOPe for decades?
The welfare state is why we are where we are, and it needs to be ripped out by the roots.
Because we cannot afford it. Or, I should say, we're saddling our children with debts that cannot ever be repaid.
David really thinks I'm going to trust someone with power who says, "trust me, we're different" when that's the line that's been used to promote the GOPe for decades?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at August 04, 2020 05:22 PM (WEBkv)
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I do not think they're going to make the kind of money they need to make with this. This feels like desperation.
And it entertains me.
That remake was never for the American audience, and their intended audience in China is currently too busy contemplating dying when a dam collapses to go see movies. So they're basically flailing around at this point.
And it entertains me.
That remake was never for the American audience, and their intended audience in China is currently too busy contemplating dying when a dam collapses to go see movies. So they're basically flailing around at this point.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 04, 2020 05:22 PM (6XLoz)
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I do not think they're going to make the kind of money they need to make with this. This feels like desperation.
And it entertains me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at August 04, 2020 05:2
I think they will. People are starved for new entertainment and are also sheep.
They'll pay.
I do not think they're going to make the kind of money they need to make with this. This feels like desperation.
And it entertains me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at August 04, 2020 05:2
I think they will. People are starved for new entertainment and are also sheep.
They'll pay.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 04, 2020 05:22 PM (gtdYu)
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Never heard of him. Smiled at the swipe at the Benedict Option and at "free market fundamentalists," though.
Posted by: Ernst Schreiber at August 04, 2020 05:23 PM (Cbv9I)
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Hose particles are dangerous?? OMG!!!
Posted by: don lemon at August 04, 2020 05:23 PM (an7Mv)
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Has anyone heard from cfo mom? She was in a bad way on the ONT last night and was going to the ER this morning.
We were just talking about that, I've seen nothing. I wish we had some kind of network way to be in contact with each other besides this.
They've given up on the theatrical release, and they're doing a weird hybrid at home release. You have to be subscribed to Disney+ and then pay an extra $30 to view it.
... good luck with that business model, you idiots.
We were just talking about that, I've seen nothing. I wish we had some kind of network way to be in contact with each other besides this.
They've given up on the theatrical release, and they're doing a weird hybrid at home release. You have to be subscribed to Disney+ and then pay an extra $30 to view it.
... good luck with that business model, you idiots.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 05:23 PM (KZzsI)
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There will be no America until we've descended into complete lawlessness for at least a short while.
Posted by: Mooch Obamas Uncircumcised Penis at August 04, 2020 05:24 PM (GaAew)
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213 Sadly, Conservatism not conserving anything is not a new thing.
"It may be inferred again that the present movement for women's rights will certainly prevail from the history of its only opponent: Northern conservatism. This is a party which never conserves anything. Its history has been that it demurs to each aggression of the progressive party, and aims to save its credit by a respectable amount of growling, but always acquiesces at last in the innovation. What was the resisted novelty of yesterday is today one of the accepted principles of conservatism; it is now conservative only in affecting to resist the next innovation, which will tomorrow be forced upon its timidity and will be succeeded by some third revolution; to be denounced and then adopted in its turn. American conservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward towards perdition."
- Robert Lewis Dabney, 1897
Posted by: DemocratsHateWhitePeople at August 04, 2020 05:21 PM (pRCiG)
The modern incarnation of Conservatism did not exist back then, not as a unified concept. It was the Republican party that pushed women voting. Progressivism also at this point of time and throughout the first half of the 20th century was a movement that existed in both political parties, though it wasn't necessarily anti-free market(some were, some weren't) and was at some points anti-communist. Palmer raids for instance.
"It may be inferred again that the present movement for women's rights will certainly prevail from the history of its only opponent: Northern conservatism. This is a party which never conserves anything. Its history has been that it demurs to each aggression of the progressive party, and aims to save its credit by a respectable amount of growling, but always acquiesces at last in the innovation. What was the resisted novelty of yesterday is today one of the accepted principles of conservatism; it is now conservative only in affecting to resist the next innovation, which will tomorrow be forced upon its timidity and will be succeeded by some third revolution; to be denounced and then adopted in its turn. American conservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward towards perdition."
- Robert Lewis Dabney, 1897
Posted by: DemocratsHateWhitePeople at August 04, 2020 05:21 PM (pRCiG)
The modern incarnation of Conservatism did not exist back then, not as a unified concept. It was the Republican party that pushed women voting. Progressivism also at this point of time and throughout the first half of the 20th century was a movement that existed in both political parties, though it wasn't necessarily anti-free market(some were, some weren't) and was at some points anti-communist. Palmer raids for instance.
Posted by: Someguy at August 04, 2020 05:24 PM (Zm+LZ)
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Robert Lewis Dabney, 1897
Posted by: DemocratsHateWhitePeople at August 04, 2020 05:21 PM (pRCiG)
Whoa.
Posted by: DemocratsHateWhitePeople at August 04, 2020 05:21 PM (pRCiG)
Whoa.
Posted by: ... at August 04, 2020 05:24 PM (uEbPt)
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Please Great Barrel God, do not emBarrel me for this:
Iowahawk on the Twats:
I had assumed putting a fireworks factory next to a huge storage elevator full of ammonium nitrate was something that only happened on Lone Star: 9-1-1
Iowahawk on the Twats:
I had assumed putting a fireworks factory next to a huge storage elevator full of ammonium nitrate was something that only happened on Lone Star: 9-1-1
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 04, 2020 05:24 PM (GbPPJ)
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I think they will. People are starved for new entertainment and are also sheep.
They'll pay.
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Plenty in the iTunes catalog to buy/rent for me to think about ANOTHER stupid live action Disney cartoon remake.
Doubt Karens would go for it either. The movie is about a girl who has to pretend to be a boy.
They'll pay.
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Plenty in the iTunes catalog to buy/rent for me to think about ANOTHER stupid live action Disney cartoon remake.
Doubt Karens would go for it either. The movie is about a girl who has to pretend to be a boy.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at August 04, 2020 05:24 PM (2BgZB)
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that alternate view of the Lebanese Kaboom is very good
you can see the shock wave propagating thru the air
shame about the dead but whaddya gonna do? they probably don't have OSHA in Lebanon
you can see the shock wave propagating thru the air
shame about the dead but whaddya gonna do? they probably don't have OSHA in Lebanon
Posted by: DB- just DB. Bird= the word at August 04, 2020 05:24 PM (iTXRQ)
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I think they will. People are starved for new entertainment and are also sheep.
They'll pay.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 04, 2020 05:22 PM (gtdYu)
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Maybe. But one of the reasons people the high ticket prices is for the "viewing experience" you only get from being in a theatre, with other viewers.
I think they will. People are starved for new entertainment and are also sheep.
They'll pay.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 04, 2020 05:22 PM (gtdYu)
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Maybe. But one of the reasons people the high ticket prices is for the "viewing experience" you only get from being in a theatre, with other viewers.
Posted by: Painting the Corners at August 04, 2020 05:25 PM (yuw89)
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Not on every front! America has been winning on the 2nd Amendment. And the Heydrich wannabes wouldn't DARE spit on a US soldier/sailor/airman/Marine.
Posted by: Occam's Chainsaw at August 04, 2020 05:25 PM (8Qqd3)
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I do not think they're going to make the kind of money they need to make with this. This feels like desperation.
And it entertains me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at August 04, 2020 05:2
I think they will. People are starved for new entertainment and are also sheep.
They'll pay.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 04, 2020 05:22 PM (gtdYu)
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The common theme I'm hearing from people is that they have a glut of entertainment options, not a lack of them. They're discovering lost gems on Netflix (Uncut Gems is on Netflix, by the way) or the absolute dreck on Amazon Prime.
I think it's not going to do well, they're never going to release any actual numbers, but they will talk up the performance like it was the best thing ever, all while trying to pay off the $6 billion in debt they took on this year.
I do not think they're going to make the kind of money they need to make with this. This feels like desperation.
And it entertains me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at August 04, 2020 05:2
I think they will. People are starved for new entertainment and are also sheep.
They'll pay.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 04, 2020 05:22 PM (gtdYu)
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The common theme I'm hearing from people is that they have a glut of entertainment options, not a lack of them. They're discovering lost gems on Netflix (Uncut Gems is on Netflix, by the way) or the absolute dreck on Amazon Prime.
I think it's not going to do well, they're never going to release any actual numbers, but they will talk up the performance like it was the best thing ever, all while trying to pay off the $6 billion in debt they took on this year.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at August 04, 2020 05:25 PM (LvTSG)
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199 Mercy, that was two huge explosions in Beirut:
https://tinyurl.com/yyceelzw
Posted by: Michael the Texan at August 04, 2020 05:18 PM (9IdCK)
it's fascinating that from that angle, you can really see the sequence of events. First, there is a fire burning, the column of smoke. Then there's an explosion, the red flash, and THEN, maybe a half second later, there's a massive detonation, undoubtedly triggered by the explosion. I won't go on about the difference between the two, other than that they are different physical processes. Explosions make a big boom - Detonations make a BIG BADA BOOM. Supports the idea that a big pile of ammonium nitrate was there.
https://tinyurl.com/yyceelzw
Posted by: Michael the Texan at August 04, 2020 05:18 PM (9IdCK)
it's fascinating that from that angle, you can really see the sequence of events. First, there is a fire burning, the column of smoke. Then there's an explosion, the red flash, and THEN, maybe a half second later, there's a massive detonation, undoubtedly triggered by the explosion. I won't go on about the difference between the two, other than that they are different physical processes. Explosions make a big boom - Detonations make a BIG BADA BOOM. Supports the idea that a big pile of ammonium nitrate was there.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 04, 2020 05:25 PM (Kpl3J)
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"It may be inferred again that the present movement for women's rights will certainly prevail from the history of its only opponent: Northern conservatism. This is a party which never conserves anything. Its history has been that it demurs to each aggression of the progressive party, and aims to save its credit by a respectable amount of growling, but always acquiesces at last in the innovation. What was the resisted novelty of yesterday is today one of the accepted principles of conservatism; it is now conservative only in affecting to resist the next innovation, which will tomorrow be forced upon its timidity and will be succeeded by some third revolution; to be denounced and then adopted in its turn. American conservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward towards perdition."
- Robert Lewis Dabney, 1897
Posted by: DemocratsHateWhitePeople at August 04, 2020 05:21 PM (pRCiG)
Wow. The more things change....
But one of JoeF's laws--which I just thought up---is that Conservatism is Only Against New Progressive Initiatives ----until Big Business figures out how to make money off of it....
- Robert Lewis Dabney, 1897
Posted by: DemocratsHateWhitePeople at August 04, 2020 05:21 PM (pRCiG)
Wow. The more things change....
But one of JoeF's laws--which I just thought up---is that Conservatism is Only Against New Progressive Initiatives ----until Big Business figures out how to make money off of it....
Posted by: JoeF. at August 04, 2020 05:26 PM (gtdYu)
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Donny Two Scoops should start telling people to NOT use the mail-in system, and to physically GO to the polling place, as that is where your vote is actually (we hope) counted.
He needs to push this idea hard.
He posted earlier that Florida mail in voting was just fine. It was a little weird actually.
He needs to push this idea hard.
He posted earlier that Florida mail in voting was just fine. It was a little weird actually.
Posted by: spypeach at August 04, 2020 05:26 PM (Up/Jb)
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I know couple of disney manaics and they might pay for it but I kinda doubt it. The life remakes are fairly popular but not really that great and Disney+ entire pull was "here's ALL OUR STUFF! FOR ONE LOW PRICE!"
Now they want more? For a remake? That I can wait a few months for and it will not be a premium any longer? I don't think so.
Now they want more? For a remake? That I can wait a few months for and it will not be a premium any longer? I don't think so.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 05:27 PM (KZzsI)
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228 >>>
I think they will. People are starved for new entertainment and are also sheep.
They'll pay.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 04, 2020 05:22 PM (gtdYu)
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Maybe. But one of the reasons people the high ticket prices is for the "viewing experience" you only get from being in a theatre, with other viewers.
Posted by: Painting the Corners at August 04, 2020 05:25 PM (yuw89)
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The idea is that $30 isn't too high for a family of 5 sitting at home. It's way too high for an individual, though.
$20 seems like a better number to go off of. $30 feels like it's outside the reasonable and fewer people will go with it.
I think they will. People are starved for new entertainment and are also sheep.
They'll pay.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 04, 2020 05:22 PM (gtdYu)
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Maybe. But one of the reasons people the high ticket prices is for the "viewing experience" you only get from being in a theatre, with other viewers.
Posted by: Painting the Corners at August 04, 2020 05:25 PM (yuw89)
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The idea is that $30 isn't too high for a family of 5 sitting at home. It's way too high for an individual, though.
$20 seems like a better number to go off of. $30 feels like it's outside the reasonable and fewer people will go with it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at August 04, 2020 05:27 PM (LvTSG)
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Why not a good old revolutionary name, The Sons of Liberty.
Posted by: morigu at August 04, 2020 05:27 PM (Eu98u)
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freedom isn't free. if it costs lives to go vote, so what? others gave their lives so you could. if you can't risk it, stay home and live with the results. and fuck off.
Posted by: x at August 04, 2020 05:27 PM (nFwvY)
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He posted earlier that Florida mail in voting was just fine. It was a little weird actually.
Posted by: spypeach at August 04, 2020 05:26 PM (Up/Jb)
Are you sure it wasn't absentee voting?
He has been making the distinction quite clear.
Posted by: spypeach at August 04, 2020 05:26 PM (Up/Jb)
Are you sure it wasn't absentee voting?
He has been making the distinction quite clear.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 04, 2020 05:27 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at August 04, 2020 05:28 PM (unn44)
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219 ...... Smiled at the swipe at the Benedict Option.....
Posted by: Ernst Schreiber at August 04, 2020 05:23 PM (Cbv9I)
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He obviously has no idea what Benedict was talking about.
Posted by: Ernst Schreiber at August 04, 2020 05:23 PM (Cbv9I)
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He obviously has no idea what Benedict was talking about.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 04, 2020 05:28 PM (M/9m0)
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234 I know couple of disney manaics and they might pay for it but I kinda doubt it. The life remakes are fairly popular but not really that great and Disney+ entire pull was "here's ALL OUR STUFF! FOR ONE LOW PRICE!"
Now they want more? For a remake? That I can wait a few months for and it will not be a premium any longer? I don't think so.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 05:27 PM (KZzsI)
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There will always be a market for anything Disney puts out, but this feels really stupid.
Now they want more? For a remake? That I can wait a few months for and it will not be a premium any longer? I don't think so.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 05:27 PM (KZzsI)
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There will always be a market for anything Disney puts out, but this feels really stupid.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at August 04, 2020 05:28 PM (LvTSG)
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And this is from the fake (or is it bum bum BUM) Mossad twitter account:
We only (allegedly) cause explosions that kill really bad people. This one was not us, and neither was the Hindenburg.
And this is from the fake (or is it bum bum BUM) Mossad twitter account:
We only (allegedly) cause explosions that kill really bad people. This one was not us, and neither was the Hindenburg.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 04, 2020 05:28 PM (GbPPJ)
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This whole thing has me jumpier than a Lebanese longshoreman.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 04, 2020 05:28 PM (oVJmc)
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Never lost power but internet went out. Getting minor water in basement, kinda expected with 5 inches or better of rain.
Posted by: Skip at August 04, 2020 05:28 PM (iYcKd)
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The life remakes are fairly popular but not really that great and Disney+ entire pull was "here's ALL OUR STUFF! FOR ONE LOW PRICE!"
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And they lie even about that. Movies come and go very often in that platform, overnight and with no notice.
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And they lie even about that. Movies come and go very often in that platform, overnight and with no notice.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at August 04, 2020 05:28 PM (2BgZB)
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> "Dr. Jill" says that Biden "will be there" for debates.
Of course, why "Dr. Jill" is issuing this statement, rather than Biden himself, is not explained.
Of course, why "Dr. Jill" is issuing this statement, rather than Biden himself, is not explained.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at August 04, 2020 05:29 PM (unn44)
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Did I miss a discussion of Abigail Shapiros pendulous Ashkenazi sweater puppies?
What is wrong with you people?
What is wrong with you people?
Posted by: Regular joe at August 04, 2020 05:29 PM (L9P9s)
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And this is from the fake (or is it bum bum BUM) Mossad twitter account:
We only (allegedly) cause explosions that kill really bad people. This one was not us, and neither was the Hindenburg.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 04, 2020 05:28 PM (GbPPJ)
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Confirmed: Mossad was behind the Hindenburg.
And this is from the fake (or is it bum bum BUM) Mossad twitter account:
We only (allegedly) cause explosions that kill really bad people. This one was not us, and neither was the Hindenburg.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 04, 2020 05:28 PM (GbPPJ)
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Confirmed: Mossad was behind the Hindenburg.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at August 04, 2020 05:29 PM (LvTSG)
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Although really what you're proposing Tom is a temporary Revolutionary Dictatorship. Which is an intermediate step for reestablishing the Republic at this point regardless of how we slice it.
Posted by: Someguy
Is that kinda like how the all-powerful revolutionary State will wither away once the true communist utopia is realized? Because, um, human nature is laughing at that shit.
Posted by: Someguy
Is that kinda like how the all-powerful revolutionary State will wither away once the true communist utopia is realized? Because, um, human nature is laughing at that shit.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at August 04, 2020 05:29 PM (OUMaO)
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if it costs lives to go vote, so what? others gave their lives so you could. if you can't risk it, stay home and live with the results. and fuck off.
If the Iraqi people can go vote during an actual war with crazed Muslim radicals imported from Iran blowing up cars and buildings around them... I dunno, just may be we can get to a voting precinct.
If the Iraqi people can go vote during an actual war with crazed Muslim radicals imported from Iran blowing up cars and buildings around them... I dunno, just may be we can get to a voting precinct.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 05:29 PM (KZzsI)
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I think Hillary named us, and we ought to pick it up proudly "Deplorables".
The Deplorable Party. Hmm, that phrase does roll well off the tongue. It's poignant, pithy and pokes fun at Her Heinous and the progtarded Left.
I like it.
The Deplorable Party. Hmm, that phrase does roll well off the tongue. It's poignant, pithy and pokes fun at Her Heinous and the progtarded Left.
I like it.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 04, 2020 05:29 PM (HaL55)
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245 The life remakes are fairly popular but not really that great and Disney+ entire pull was "here's ALL OUR STUFF! FOR ONE LOW PRICE!"
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And they lie even about that. Movies come and go very often in that platform, overnight and with no notice.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at August 04, 2020 05:28 PM (2BgZB)
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There are two things I hate about streaming:
1) Having things disappear without notice.
2) Scrolling through poorly curated lists and menus to find something Dolley might want to watch when I have nearly a thousand perfectly good movies in the closet just begging to be spun up.
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And they lie even about that. Movies come and go very often in that platform, overnight and with no notice.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at August 04, 2020 05:28 PM (2BgZB)
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There are two things I hate about streaming:
1) Having things disappear without notice.
2) Scrolling through poorly curated lists and menus to find something Dolley might want to watch when I have nearly a thousand perfectly good movies in the closet just begging to be spun up.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at August 04, 2020 05:30 PM (LvTSG)
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And they lie even about that. Movies come and go very often in that platform, overnight and with no notice.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn.
Kinda like how they handled their movies on home video, eh? Shocka...
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn.
Kinda like how they handled their movies on home video, eh? Shocka...
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at August 04, 2020 05:30 PM (OUMaO)
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If the Iraqi people can go vote during an actual war
with crazed Muslim radicals imported from Iran blowing up cars and
buildings around them... I dunno, just may be we can get to a voting
precinct.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 05:29 PM (KZzsI)
Especially since your precinct is probably a very short distance away.
Like, maybe, even in your neighborhood.
with crazed Muslim radicals imported from Iran blowing up cars and
buildings around them... I dunno, just may be we can get to a voting
precinct.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 05:29 PM (KZzsI)
Especially since your precinct is probably a very short distance away.
Like, maybe, even in your neighborhood.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 04, 2020 05:30 PM (ufFY8)
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Confirmed: Mossad was behind the Hindenburg.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at August 04, 2020 05:29 PM (LvTSG)
" Oh the JOOmanity!!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at August 04, 2020 05:29 PM (LvTSG)
" Oh the JOOmanity!!"
Posted by: JoeF. at August 04, 2020 05:30 PM (gtdYu)
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Verizon offered a so 1 year free Disney plus membership for being a customer. So I signed up figuring I could see all the old classics and and cancel it after the free. Because I refused to give this pedophiles, penny of my money. The membership canceled after 1 month and neither Verizon or Disney can/will fix it.
Fuck 'Em with a 12" thick packet of NAMBLA applications soaked in methanol.
Verizon offered a so 1 year free Disney plus membership for being a customer. So I signed up figuring I could see all the old classics and and cancel it after the free. Because I refused to give this pedophiles, penny of my money. The membership canceled after 1 month and neither Verizon or Disney can/will fix it.
Fuck 'Em with a 12" thick packet of NAMBLA applications soaked in methanol.
Posted by: J. French at August 04, 2020 05:31 PM (d6DSt)
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Are you sure it wasn't absentee voting?
He has been making the distinction quite clear.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 04, 2020 05:27 PM (ufFY
He did not make a distinction, he said whether you call it mail in voting or absentee voting Florida is good etc... check his FB post for today.
He has been making the distinction quite clear.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 04, 2020 05:27 PM (ufFY
He did not make a distinction, he said whether you call it mail in voting or absentee voting Florida is good etc... check his FB post for today.
Posted by: spypeach at August 04, 2020 05:31 PM (Up/Jb)
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There will always be a market for anything Disney puts out, but this feels really stupid.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at August 04, 2020 05:28 PM (LvTSG)
That stupid Trolls movie did something like $125 million on VOD.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at August 04, 2020 05:28 PM (LvTSG)
That stupid Trolls movie did something like $125 million on VOD.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 04, 2020 05:31 PM (GbPPJ)
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253 And they lie even about that. Movies come and go very often in that platform, overnight and with no notice.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn.
Kinda like how they handled their movies on home video, eh? Shocka...
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at August 04, 2020 05:30 PM (OUMaO)
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The Vault, an artificial scarcity generator that keeps the secondary market of home video for Disney small so they can keep their prices on the primary market high.
It's kind of genius, really.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn.
Kinda like how they handled their movies on home video, eh? Shocka...
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at August 04, 2020 05:30 PM (OUMaO)
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The Vault, an artificial scarcity generator that keeps the secondary market of home video for Disney small so they can keep their prices on the primary market high.
It's kind of genius, really.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at August 04, 2020 05:31 PM (LvTSG)
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Honestly, I think that was way too messy to be Israel. My guess is a bunch of backwards Hezbollah inbreeds were playing with something beyond their childlike intellects and torched themselves, big time.
Honestly, I think that was way too messy to be Israel. My guess is a bunch of backwards Hezbollah inbreeds were playing with something beyond their childlike intellects and torched themselves, big time.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 04, 2020 05:31 PM (Tm4zg)
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And they lie even about that. Movies come and go very often in that platform, overnight and with no notice.
Yeah the total catalog of stuff they own -- and they bought a TON of stuff to own it before starting Disney+, even content from other studios -- is not all on there. Not even close. Most of their really great classic stuff is missing. We had it for a month because they gave this super great deal for the Fire stick and I went through it. Almost nothing I actually wanted to see or missed.
These streaming services would be much, much better served to have a VERY MUCH LARGER catalog. Instead because servers are expensive, they go cheap and only have a little at a time.
Yeah the total catalog of stuff they own -- and they bought a TON of stuff to own it before starting Disney+, even content from other studios -- is not all on there. Not even close. Most of their really great classic stuff is missing. We had it for a month because they gave this super great deal for the Fire stick and I went through it. Almost nothing I actually wanted to see or missed.
These streaming services would be much, much better served to have a VERY MUCH LARGER catalog. Instead because servers are expensive, they go cheap and only have a little at a time.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 05:31 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Archer at August 04, 2020 05:31 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: JoeF. at August 04, 2020 05:32 PM (gtdYu)
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249 Although really what you're proposing Tom is a temporary Revolutionary Dictatorship. Which is an intermediate step for reestablishing the Republic at this point regardless of how we slice it.
Posted by: Someguy
Is that kinda like how the all-powerful revolutionary State will wither away once the true communist utopia is realized? Because, um, human nature is laughing at that shit.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at August 04, 2020 05:29 PM (OUMaO)
Well states start with warlords and prominent generals. Pinochet for instance, literally accomplished just that. Ataturk did as well for Turkey. The prominent leaders of our revolution did not operate in a republican environment while prosecuting the war, and there was a proposal to make Washington king. The Roman republic was established by the Roman elite, who also had their powerful leaders, throwing out the Etruscans.
Posted by: Someguy
Is that kinda like how the all-powerful revolutionary State will wither away once the true communist utopia is realized? Because, um, human nature is laughing at that shit.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at August 04, 2020 05:29 PM (OUMaO)
Well states start with warlords and prominent generals. Pinochet for instance, literally accomplished just that. Ataturk did as well for Turkey. The prominent leaders of our revolution did not operate in a republican environment while prosecuting the war, and there was a proposal to make Washington king. The Roman republic was established by the Roman elite, who also had their powerful leaders, throwing out the Etruscans.
Posted by: Someguy at August 04, 2020 05:32 PM (Zm+LZ)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 04, 2020 05:32 PM (oVJmc)
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Achmed ignored the no smoking sign.
Posted by: davidt at August 04, 2020 05:33 PM (l3+k2)
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Did I miss a discussion of Abigail Shapiros pendulous Ashkenazi sweater puppies?
What is wrong with you people?
Sorry, what were you saying?
I'm still under the spell of WhatsHerFace's big brown eyes. *long wistful sigh*
What is wrong with you people?
Sorry, what were you saying?
I'm still under the spell of WhatsHerFace's big brown eyes. *long wistful sigh*
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 04, 2020 05:33 PM (HaL55)
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>>> $20 seems like a better number to go off of. $30 feels like it's outside the reasonable and fewer people will go with it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at August 04, 2020 05:27 PM (LvTSG)
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Agreed
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at August 04, 2020 05:27 PM (LvTSG)
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Agreed
Posted by: Painting the Corners at August 04, 2020 05:33 PM (yuw89)
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Good news! Oprah is working on some 1619 Project shit with Lionsgate!
Posted by: andycanuck at August 04, 2020 05:33 PM (an7Mv)
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Honestly, I think that was way too messy to be Israel. My guess is a bunch of backwards Hezbollah inbreeds were playing with something beyond their childlike intellects and torched themselves, big time.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 04, 2020 05:31 PM (Tm4zg)
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yeah, those people aren't the brightest. They definitely will keep doing dangerous stuff right up until they get dead, then, their successors go right back to doing dangerous stuff.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 04, 2020 05:31 PM (Tm4zg)
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yeah, those people aren't the brightest. They definitely will keep doing dangerous stuff right up until they get dead, then, their successors go right back to doing dangerous stuff.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at August 04, 2020 05:33 PM (WEBkv)
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so I captured that kaboom clip, loaded it into video software and slowed it way down
there are 2 explosions
first one sets off the Big One
there are 2 explosions
first one sets off the Big One
Posted by: DB- just DB. Bird= the word at August 04, 2020 05:33 PM (iTXRQ)
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258 There will always be a market for anything Disney puts out, but this feels really stupid.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at August 04, 2020 05:28 PM (LvTSG)
That stupid Trolls movie did something like $125 million on VOD.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 04, 2020 05:31 PM (GbPPJ)
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It had a lower price point ($20 instead of $30) and was available on every platform that's designed to be pay for play.
It wasn't like I had to subscribe to Amazon Prime and then pay for Trolls. I could do it without Prime.
This time, you have to have a specific monthly subscription and then pay an extra $30. That's a higher hurdle, and I don't think it's going to pay off for Disney.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at August 04, 2020 05:28 PM (LvTSG)
That stupid Trolls movie did something like $125 million on VOD.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 04, 2020 05:31 PM (GbPPJ)
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It had a lower price point ($20 instead of $30) and was available on every platform that's designed to be pay for play.
It wasn't like I had to subscribe to Amazon Prime and then pay for Trolls. I could do it without Prime.
This time, you have to have a specific monthly subscription and then pay an extra $30. That's a higher hurdle, and I don't think it's going to pay off for Disney.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at August 04, 2020 05:33 PM (LvTSG)
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258 There will always be a market for anything Disney puts out, but this feels really stupid.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at August 04, 2020 05:28 PM (LvTSG)
That stupid Trolls movie did something like $125 million on VOD.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 04, 2020 05:31 PM (GbPPJ)
But was it sold at $30 plus a subscription fee?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at August 04, 2020 05:28 PM (LvTSG)
That stupid Trolls movie did something like $125 million on VOD.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 04, 2020 05:31 PM (GbPPJ)
But was it sold at $30 plus a subscription fee?
Posted by: Buzzion at August 04, 2020 05:33 PM (u/HW3)
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"Politics" is arguing over policies.
"Policies" are proposed actions to solve a problem.
America is not at an impasse over "politics". We're at an impasse over what the fundamental problems even are.
"Policies" are proposed actions to solve a problem.
America is not at an impasse over "politics". We're at an impasse over what the fundamental problems even are.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 04, 2020 05:33 PM (6FeV1)
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Honestly, I think that was way too messy to be Israel. My guess is a bunch of backwards Hezbollah inbreeds were playing with something beyond their childlike intellects and torched themselves, big time.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 04, 2020 05:31 PM (Tm4zg)
It wasn't Israel. Unless it was an existential threat. But it wouldn't have been allowed to get THIS far if it was.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 04, 2020 05:31 PM (Tm4zg)
It wasn't Israel. Unless it was an existential threat. But it wouldn't have been allowed to get THIS far if it was.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 04, 2020 05:33 PM (gtdYu)
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Achmed ignored the no smoking sign.
Posted by: davidt at August 04, 2020 05:33 PM (l3+k2)
Ever been in a Arab Country? Might as well put up a no breathing sign
Posted by: davidt at August 04, 2020 05:33 PM (l3+k2)
Ever been in a Arab Country? Might as well put up a no breathing sign
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 04, 2020 05:33 PM (85Gof)
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Basically people on this blog have been saying this for the last 14 years...
Or alternatively...
Welcome to the party pal.
Or alternatively...
Welcome to the party pal.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 04, 2020 05:34 PM (ZT7+C)
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Mercy, that was two huge explosions in Beirut.
So, is August going to be war between Lebannon/Iran and Israel? And then Yellowstone Caldera explosion/ Alien invasion in September, pandemic in October/ November and SMOD in December? Is that how the rest of the year is going to suss out?
So, is August going to be war between Lebannon/Iran and Israel? And then Yellowstone Caldera explosion/ Alien invasion in September, pandemic in October/ November and SMOD in December? Is that how the rest of the year is going to suss out?
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at August 04, 2020 05:34 PM (ZCiJZ)
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> Not on every front! America has been winning on the 2nd Amendment.
We're winning everywhere and in everything.
Note out Antifa instantly gets the shit kicked out of it every time it tries to leave its deep-blue urban enclaves.
Don't let the media gaslight you. They're trying a repeat of the "Tet Offensive" gambit, where they try to present a major loss as a victory and convince you to give up.
Walter Cronkite is, I hope, burning in hell for that as we speak.
We're winning everywhere and in everything.
Note out Antifa instantly gets the shit kicked out of it every time it tries to leave its deep-blue urban enclaves.
Don't let the media gaslight you. They're trying a repeat of the "Tet Offensive" gambit, where they try to present a major loss as a victory and convince you to give up.
Walter Cronkite is, I hope, burning in hell for that as we speak.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at August 04, 2020 05:34 PM (unn44)
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> So, is August going to be war between Lebannon/Iran and Israel?
Israel is actually offering to send help.
Weird, I know.
Israel is actually offering to send help.
Weird, I know.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at August 04, 2020 05:35 PM (unn44)
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That stupid Trolls movie did something like $125 million on VOD.
There are an awful lot of moms who deny their precious one nothing.
Speaking of Trolls, check out this truly disturbing, infuriating bit about a Troll doll with a special button in a... particular spot
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2hkjupv
There are an awful lot of moms who deny their precious one nothing.
Speaking of Trolls, check out this truly disturbing, infuriating bit about a Troll doll with a special button in a... particular spot
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2hkjupv
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 05:35 PM (KZzsI)
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Well states start with warlords and prominent generals. Pinochet for instance, literally accomplished just that. Ataturk did as well for Turkey. The prominent leaders of our revolution did not operate in a republican environment while prosecuting the war, and there was a proposal to make Washington king. The Roman republic was established by the Roman elite, who also had their powerful leaders, throwing out the Etruscans.
Posted by: Someguy
Take a deeper look. In each case the state that developed was culturally determined. Even Ataturk.
Trying to get a new, proper republic out of the current culture is like making steel from rust.
Posted by: Someguy
Take a deeper look. In each case the state that developed was culturally determined. Even Ataturk.
Trying to get a new, proper republic out of the current culture is like making steel from rust.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at August 04, 2020 05:35 PM (OUMaO)
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How to keep your glasses from fogging while wearing a mask:
A: install mask over mouth and nose, place glasses over eyes, take the f-cking mask off dipsh-t.
A: install mask over mouth and nose, place glasses over eyes, take the f-cking mask off dipsh-t.
Posted by: Little Einstein at August 04, 2020 05:36 PM (KiEub)
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Is that kinda like how the all-powerful revolutionary State will wither away once the true communist utopia is realized? Because, um, human nature is laughing at that shit.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at August 04, 2020 05:29 PM (OUMaO)
At some point one gives up the idea that anything can be made better, and all you long for is REVENGE!
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at August 04, 2020 05:29 PM (OUMaO)
At some point one gives up the idea that anything can be made better, and all you long for is REVENGE!
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 04, 2020 05:36 PM (Kpl3J)
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Honestly, I think that was way too messy to be Israel. My guess is a bunch of backwards Hezbollah inbreeds were playing with something beyond their childlike intellects and torched themselves, big time.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 04, 2020 05:31 PM (Tm4zg)
This is one case where the official story may be true. The official story is that they were doing welding at the storage site where the ammonium nitrate was being stored and, well, nature did what it does.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 04, 2020 05:31 PM (Tm4zg)
This is one case where the official story may be true. The official story is that they were doing welding at the storage site where the ammonium nitrate was being stored and, well, nature did what it does.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 04, 2020 05:36 PM (GbPPJ)
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Detonations make a BIG BADA BOOM. Supports the idea that a big pile of ammonium nitrate was there.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 04, 2020 05:25 PM (Kpl3J)
Reminds me of the Texas City explosion
https://tinyurl.com/ptbto3r
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 04, 2020 05:25 PM (Kpl3J)
Reminds me of the Texas City explosion
https://tinyurl.com/ptbto3r
Posted by: Javems at August 04, 2020 05:36 PM (G9Y8y)
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280 > So, is August going to be war between Lebannon/Iran and Israel?
Israel is actually offering to send help.
Weird, I know.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at August 04, 2020 05:35 PM (unn44)
No it isn't. They offer to send help all the time. They've offered Iran help after earthquakes. Iran refuses of course but Israel does offer aid.
280 > So, is August going to be war between Lebannon/Iran and Israel?
Israel is actually offering to send help.
Weird, I know.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at August 04, 2020 05:35 PM (unn44)
No it isn't. They offer to send help all the time. They've offered Iran help after earthquakes. Iran refuses of course but Israel does offer aid.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 04, 2020 05:36 PM (u/HW3)
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281 That stupid Trolls movie did something like $125 million on VOD.
There are an awful lot of moms who deny their precious one nothing.
Speaking of Trolls, check out this truly disturbing, infuriating bit about a Troll doll with a special button in a... particular spot
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2hkjupv
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 05:35 PM (KZzsI)
Tickle-me-Raimondo
There are an awful lot of moms who deny their precious one nothing.
Speaking of Trolls, check out this truly disturbing, infuriating bit about a Troll doll with a special button in a... particular spot
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2hkjupv
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 05:35 PM (KZzsI)
Tickle-me-Raimondo
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 04, 2020 05:37 PM (6FeV1)
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> Trying to get a new, proper republic out of the current culture is like making steel from rust.
Errrr... steel is made from rust. That's what iron ore is.
Errrr... steel is made from rust. That's what iron ore is.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at August 04, 2020 05:37 PM (unn44)
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Dr. Jill" says that Biden "will be there" for debates.
But will his brain?
Posted by: JoeF. at August 04, 2020 05:32 PM
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Ah, "Being There."
Biden, you nonsensical bastard, I've watched your movie!
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Dr. Jill" says that Biden "will be there" for debates.
But will his brain?
Posted by: JoeF. at August 04, 2020 05:32 PM
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Ah, "Being There."
Biden, you nonsensical bastard, I've watched your movie!
Posted by: irright at August 04, 2020 05:37 PM (pMGkg)
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Not on every front! America has been winning on the 2nd Amendment.
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That's probably the flimsiest, especially now that the SCOTUS will just deem a word to mean what they want.
Sure lots of people have brought guns and ammo, but law abiding people will obey the law. Especially when it means losing your rights after you are convicted of a federal felony.
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That's probably the flimsiest, especially now that the SCOTUS will just deem a word to mean what they want.
Sure lots of people have brought guns and ammo, but law abiding people will obey the law. Especially when it means losing your rights after you are convicted of a federal felony.
Posted by: Charles Darwin twerking in Congress at August 04, 2020 05:37 PM (FY89y)
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I think parents would be a lot more willing to pay for a brand new Disney animated movie than a live action remake.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 05:38 PM (KZzsI)
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At some point one gives up the idea that anything can be made better, and all you long for is REVENGE!
Posted by: Tom Servo
This is where I am. Someone just say 1, 2, 3, go.
Posted by: Tom Servo
This is where I am. Someone just say 1, 2, 3, go.
Posted by: BifBewalski at August 04, 2020 05:38 PM (VcFUs)
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Glasses fogging from maskblowby...no virus in that moisture cloud...no sireee
Posted by: A dude in MI at August 04, 2020 05:38 PM (/6GbT)
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DB- just DB. Bird= the word
I saw three explosions. Look to the video from the hills to the east looking west downhill to the port.
Second one was the ammonium nitrate. The red color from NO₂ was tell tale.
Then the big one. This was on the North side of the grain elevator, so a big grain dust explosion. Source was dust kicked in the air by the second explosion, then Kaboom. It happens if you do not do maintenance and rely on Allah.
Sucks to be them.
I saw three explosions. Look to the video from the hills to the east looking west downhill to the port.
Second one was the ammonium nitrate. The red color from NO₂ was tell tale.
Then the big one. This was on the North side of the grain elevator, so a big grain dust explosion. Source was dust kicked in the air by the second explosion, then Kaboom. It happens if you do not do maintenance and rely on Allah.
Sucks to be them.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 04, 2020 05:39 PM (u82oZ)
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America is not at an impasse over "politics". We're at an impasse over what the fundamental problems even are.
Not to fuss too much, but America knows very well what the problems are.
America's politicians do not want to solve them, all they want to do is talk about how they're going to solve them. Funny how they never get around to fixing them.
That is the biggest problem we have right now.
Not to fuss too much, but America knows very well what the problems are.
America's politicians do not want to solve them, all they want to do is talk about how they're going to solve them. Funny how they never get around to fixing them.
That is the biggest problem we have right now.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at August 04, 2020 05:39 PM (HaL55)
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289 > Trying to get a new, proper republic out of the current culture is like making steel from rust.
Errrr... steel is made from rust. That's what iron ore is.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at August 04, 2020 05:37 PM (unn44)
Exactly.
All we need is a big enough crucible and a big ol' fuck-off blast furnace, and we're all set.
Errrr... steel is made from rust. That's what iron ore is.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at August 04, 2020 05:37 PM (unn44)
Exactly.
All we need is a big enough crucible and a big ol' fuck-off blast furnace, and we're all set.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 04, 2020 05:39 PM (6FeV1)
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At some point one gives up the idea that anything can be made better, and all you long for is REVENGE!
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 04, 2020 05:36 PM (Kpl3J)
As I said, I have no problem with the honesty of that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 04, 2020 05:36 PM (Kpl3J)
As I said, I have no problem with the honesty of that.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 04, 2020 05:39 PM (GbPPJ)
299
Maybe the Lebs hired Franco-African church janitors for cleanup??
Posted by: andycanuck at August 04, 2020 05:39 PM (an7Mv)
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This is one case where the official story may be true. The official story is that they were doing welding at the storage site where the ammonium nitrate was being stored and, well, nature did what it does.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 04, 2020 05:36 PM (GbPPJ)
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They probably had oxygen bottles stored near the ammonium nitrate too.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at August 04, 2020 05:36 PM (GbPPJ)
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They probably had oxygen bottles stored near the ammonium nitrate too.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at August 04, 2020 05:39 PM (WEBkv)
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And they babble about such inanities because the people paying them to babble -- the leftwing, #Woke corporate donor class -- is happy about the leftwing's takeover of all important institutions and certainly doesn't want to see the disruptions that a determined counter-offensive by actual conservatives would entail.
The same thing could be said for the ambulatory shitstains in congress who pretend to represent the right.
The example of John Lewis' funeral is a perfect example: we have to wear the Mask of Cain (more and more frequently under pain of fine / arrest), we must social distance and we must quarantine. But, the ought-to-be-hung scum that went to that race pimp's funeral didn't mask, didn't distance and won't quarantine. They have been granted permission to flout the boot of the State.
"Conservatism, Inc" and the GOP-E never have to live with the consequences of the left ruining their entertainments, desecrating their monuments, being legally persecuted or physically attacked.
They can buy or beg an indulgence from the living hell of the Left.
We must bow and kiss the boot of the State.
God help those bastards if there ever was a real revolution.
The same thing could be said for the ambulatory shitstains in congress who pretend to represent the right.
The example of John Lewis' funeral is a perfect example: we have to wear the Mask of Cain (more and more frequently under pain of fine / arrest), we must social distance and we must quarantine. But, the ought-to-be-hung scum that went to that race pimp's funeral didn't mask, didn't distance and won't quarantine. They have been granted permission to flout the boot of the State.
"Conservatism, Inc" and the GOP-E never have to live with the consequences of the left ruining their entertainments, desecrating their monuments, being legally persecuted or physically attacked.
They can buy or beg an indulgence from the living hell of the Left.
We must bow and kiss the boot of the State.
God help those bastards if there ever was a real revolution.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 04, 2020 05:39 PM (2JVJo)
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Glasses fogging from maskblowby...no virus in that moisture cloud...no sireee
Posted by: A dude in MI at August 04, 2020 05:38 PM
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Seems like a haiku or something.
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Glasses fogging from maskblowby...no virus in that moisture cloud...no sireee
Posted by: A dude in MI at August 04, 2020 05:38 PM
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Seems like a haiku or something.
Posted by: irright at August 04, 2020 05:39 PM (pMGkg)
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There are an awful lot of moms who deny their precious one nothing.
Speaking of Trolls, check out this truly disturbing, infuriating bit about a Troll doll with a special button in a... particular spot
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2hkjupv
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 05:35 PM (KZzsI)
HOLY F*KING JEEEEBUS!
Speaking of Trolls, check out this truly disturbing, infuriating bit about a Troll doll with a special button in a... particular spot
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2hkjupv
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 05:35 PM (KZzsI)
HOLY F*KING JEEEEBUS!
Posted by: clutch cargo at August 04, 2020 05:39 PM (8B6Ng)
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I think parents would be a lot more willing to pay for a brand new Disney animated movie than a live action remake.
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Agreed, though at this point after watching the Star Wars debacle I'm convinced Disney is simply unable to make any new movies.
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Agreed, though at this point after watching the Star Wars debacle I'm convinced Disney is simply unable to make any new movies.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at August 04, 2020 05:40 PM (2BgZB)
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Greetings, all. First time, long time...
It's a great article. Indeed, "The Long March Through The Institutions"... worked. With the communist left taking-over most every mainline Christian denomination their usurpation of literally every institution - save, perhaps, for now, the military - is complete.
Meanwhile the WFB worshipers still seem to think this is a problem of "branding". While they were looking for an eternity of hills to not die upon the left was systematically destroying them.
Conservatism, should have been about not so much the defense but rather the promotion and expansion of Anglo-American Civilization.
If Conservative, Inc. were designed from WFB on down to fail on purpose the communists could not have done a better job than what unfolded.
It's a great article. Indeed, "The Long March Through The Institutions"... worked. With the communist left taking-over most every mainline Christian denomination their usurpation of literally every institution - save, perhaps, for now, the military - is complete.
Meanwhile the WFB worshipers still seem to think this is a problem of "branding". While they were looking for an eternity of hills to not die upon the left was systematically destroying them.
Conservatism, should have been about not so much the defense but rather the promotion and expansion of Anglo-American Civilization.
If Conservative, Inc. were designed from WFB on down to fail on purpose the communists could not have done a better job than what unfolded.
Posted by: Doctor.Boom at August 04, 2020 05:40 PM (DU2N9)
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292 I think parents would be a lot more willing to pay for a brand new Disney animated movie than a live action remake.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 05:38 PM (KZzsI)
Watch the opening song of this video. It's only two minutes. You don't need to see the entire analysis.
https://youtu.be/ydYKtmtIV14
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 05:38 PM (KZzsI)
Watch the opening song of this video. It's only two minutes. You don't need to see the entire analysis.
https://youtu.be/ydYKtmtIV14
Posted by: Buzzion at August 04, 2020 05:40 PM (u/HW3)
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All we need is a big enough crucible and a big ol' fuck-off blast furnace, and we're all set.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 04, 2020 05:39 PM (6FeV1)
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Ready for duty!
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 04, 2020 05:39 PM (6FeV1)
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Ready for duty!
Posted by: Yellowstone Caldera at August 04, 2020 05:40 PM (WEBkv)
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282 Well states start with warlords and prominent generals. Pinochet for instance, literally accomplished just that. Ataturk did as well for Turkey. The prominent leaders of our revolution did not operate in a republican environment while prosecuting the war, and there was a proposal to make Washington king. The Roman republic was established by the Roman elite, who also had their powerful leaders, throwing out the Etruscans.
Posted by: Someguy
Take a deeper look. In each case the state that developed was culturally determined. Even Ataturk.
Trying to get a new, proper republic out of the current culture is like making steel from rust.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at August 04, 2020 05:35 PM (OUMaO)
That is a fair point in that our country is facing cultural decay such as the collapse of marriage and related demographic collapse similar to the case of the fall of the Roman empire. That doesn't rule out a republican form of government(we could end up going in any number of directions), but means we either need to see a rapid reformation of the culture or that any ensuing states will be short-lived until those who have a culture of stable families are the only ones left by default. I think we are going to see warlords with extraordinary powers(that's part of being a warlord with an army after all) and future government forms will ultimately depend on the decisions of a small group of people though. Any republic would therefore necessarily be preceded by something approximating a dictatorship.
Posted by: Someguy
Take a deeper look. In each case the state that developed was culturally determined. Even Ataturk.
Trying to get a new, proper republic out of the current culture is like making steel from rust.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at August 04, 2020 05:35 PM (OUMaO)
That is a fair point in that our country is facing cultural decay such as the collapse of marriage and related demographic collapse similar to the case of the fall of the Roman empire. That doesn't rule out a republican form of government(we could end up going in any number of directions), but means we either need to see a rapid reformation of the culture or that any ensuing states will be short-lived until those who have a culture of stable families are the only ones left by default. I think we are going to see warlords with extraordinary powers(that's part of being a warlord with an army after all) and future government forms will ultimately depend on the decisions of a small group of people though. Any republic would therefore necessarily be preceded by something approximating a dictatorship.
Posted by: Someguy at August 04, 2020 05:40 PM (Zm+LZ)
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That troll doll shit is real fucked up.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 04, 2020 05:40 PM (FokEf)
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263 Dr. Jill" says that Biden "will be there" for debates.
But will his brain?
Posted by: JoeF. at August 04, 2020 05:32 PM (gtdYu)
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That means the fix is in. He going to get the moderators he wants, the format he wants, and most importantly, the questions in advance.
But will his brain?
Posted by: JoeF. at August 04, 2020 05:32 PM (gtdYu)
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That means the fix is in. He going to get the moderators he wants, the format he wants, and most importantly, the questions in advance.
Posted by: WisRich at August 04, 2020 05:40 PM (G0vdT)
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Honestly, I think that was way too messy to be Israel. My guess is a bunch of backwards Hezbollah inbreeds were playing with something beyond their childlike intellects and torched themselves, big time.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
I love happy endings!
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
I love happy endings!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 04, 2020 05:41 PM (Vxu+H)
312
No doubt someone cut the red wire and the green was the one to be cut.
Posted by: Skip at August 04, 2020 05:41 PM (iYcKd)
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267 This is why I avoid staring into Abigail's eyes.
Posted by: Regular joe at August 04, 2020 05:41 PM (L9P9s)
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Donald J. Trump
Whether you call it Vote by
Mail or Absentee Voting, in Florida the election system is Safe and
Secure, Tried and True. Floridas Voting system has been cleaned up
(we defeated Democrats attempts at change), so in Florida I encourage
all to request a Ballot Vote by Mail!
OK.
He is equating Vote by Mail
and Absentee Voting as equivalent in Florida, because you have to
REQUEST a ballot, and probably go through some sort of process. (I
do not know the FL process)
PDT has been hammering the
The State sends out millions of unrequested ballots to God knows who
idea, and saying it is ripe for fraud (which it is).
So, this is actually a
nuanced tweet - Imagine that!
Donald J. Trump
Whether you call it Vote by
Mail or Absentee Voting, in Florida the election system is Safe and
Secure, Tried and True. Floridas Voting system has been cleaned up
(we defeated Democrats attempts at change), so in Florida I encourage
all to request a Ballot Vote by Mail!
OK.
He is equating Vote by Mail
and Absentee Voting as equivalent in Florida, because you have to
REQUEST a ballot, and probably go through some sort of process. (I
do not know the FL process)
PDT has been hammering the
The State sends out millions of unrequested ballots to God knows who
idea, and saying it is ripe for fraud (which it is).
So, this is actually a
nuanced tweet - Imagine that!
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 04, 2020 05:41 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 04, 2020 05:41 PM (2JVJo)
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304 I think parents would be a lot more willing to pay for a brand new Disney animated movie than a live action remake.
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Agreed, though at this point after watching the Star Wars debacle I'm convinced Disney is simply unable to make any new movies.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at August 04, 2020 05:40 PM (2BgZB)
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"You want to spend $200 million on a movie? Can you guarantee that it will make it's money back, including marketing costs?"
"I'm not sure, but it's gonna be great."
"I need more than that. Can you attach it to a brand the public knows?"
"Not really, it's pretty original and doesn't fit with much."
"How about a remake of something from the 80s? All those kids are wage earners now."
"No, can't do it."
"Okay, you can fuck right off with your 'original idea'. I'm gonna give that $200 million to this guy who wants to make the action movie version of Welcome Back, Kotter. People know Welcome Back, Kotter."
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Agreed, though at this point after watching the Star Wars debacle I'm convinced Disney is simply unable to make any new movies.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at August 04, 2020 05:40 PM (2BgZB)
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"You want to spend $200 million on a movie? Can you guarantee that it will make it's money back, including marketing costs?"
"I'm not sure, but it's gonna be great."
"I need more than that. Can you attach it to a brand the public knows?"
"Not really, it's pretty original and doesn't fit with much."
"How about a remake of something from the 80s? All those kids are wage earners now."
"No, can't do it."
"Okay, you can fuck right off with your 'original idea'. I'm gonna give that $200 million to this guy who wants to make the action movie version of Welcome Back, Kotter. People know Welcome Back, Kotter."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at August 04, 2020 05:42 PM (LvTSG)
317
I don't vote "for" anything or anybody. I vote against somebody or something.
Posted by: klaftern at August 04, 2020 05:42 PM (RuIsu)
318
"They still think it's 2003 and that we're doing a pretty great job of keeping the Maoists at bay."
Checklist conservatism was a failed ideology even as far back as 2003.
The Azarad piece is excellent albeit light on policy details. Unfortunately, it is probably about a generation or two too late. At best the bleeding can be staunched. The most attractive alternative at this point is some kind of peaceful separation that maintains some economic and foreign policy ties and even that may not be tenable.
Checklist conservatism was a failed ideology even as far back as 2003.
The Azarad piece is excellent albeit light on policy details. Unfortunately, it is probably about a generation or two too late. At best the bleeding can be staunched. The most attractive alternative at this point is some kind of peaceful separation that maintains some economic and foreign policy ties and even that may not be tenable.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at August 04, 2020 05:42 PM (puu6v)
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>>>29 I blame the Kochs more than anyone.
They basically bought the GOP and various think tanks (and for not much money) and turned it into their little liberaltarian hobby horse of issues the rank and file never supported but suddenly become "bedrock" conservative issues like open borders, open visas, and free trade. Anything against this and it was you're some brown hating bigot.
...
YUP.
They own conservative media. They're known to be big contributors to the National Review Institute (which just, coincidentally, launched a new defend-corporatists-at-every-turn initiative) and they pay a lot of the AEI "scholars." The scholars do not admit they're being paid by Koch, but pretend the money comes from AEI itself.
They basically bought the GOP and various think tanks (and for not much money) and turned it into their little liberaltarian hobby horse of issues the rank and file never supported but suddenly become "bedrock" conservative issues like open borders, open visas, and free trade. Anything against this and it was you're some brown hating bigot.
...
YUP.
They own conservative media. They're known to be big contributors to the National Review Institute (which just, coincidentally, launched a new defend-corporatists-at-every-turn initiative) and they pay a lot of the AEI "scholars." The scholars do not admit they're being paid by Koch, but pretend the money comes from AEI itself.
Posted by: ace at August 04, 2020 05:42 PM (PbpT7)
320
Twitter thread with video of the Beirut explosion. Comments indicate it was a Hezbollah weapons depot, warheads exploding before the second blast.
https://tinyurl.com/y4kmccgq
https://tinyurl.com/y4kmccgq
Posted by: fly gal at August 04, 2020 05:43 PM (8TdcF)
321
I suspect we're one stolen Dem win away from a 15-judge Supreme Court.
Posted by: Gilded Age II at August 04, 2020 05:43 PM (BRkq2)
322
Errrr... steel is made from rust. That's what iron ore is.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth)
Uh...no. No, it's not.
Someone's going to tell me you can un-scramble an egg next.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth)
Uh...no. No, it's not.
Someone's going to tell me you can un-scramble an egg next.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at August 04, 2020 05:43 PM (OUMaO)
323
America is not at an impasse over "politics". We're at an impasse over what the fundamental problems even are.
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Not to fuss too much, but America knows very well what the problems are.
America's politicians do not want to solve them, all they want to do is talk about how they're going to solve them. Funny how they never get around to fixing them.
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And the literal problems that are/represent 2% of the population have put a system in place where you aren't allowed to talk about the actual problems.
*spit*
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Not to fuss too much, but America knows very well what the problems are.
America's politicians do not want to solve them, all they want to do is talk about how they're going to solve them. Funny how they never get around to fixing them.
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And the literal problems that are/represent 2% of the population have put a system in place where you aren't allowed to talk about the actual problems.
*spit*
Posted by: Charles Darwin twerking in Congress at August 04, 2020 05:43 PM (FY89y)
324
nood bomb
Posted by: Mikey NTH -Boo Hoo? You Do! Pity Party Supplies at The Outrage Outlet! at August 04, 2020 05:44 PM (in24S)
325
They probably had oxygen bottles stored near the ammonium nitrate too.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at August 04, 2020 05:39 PM (WEBkv)
___________
And a bunch of barrels of fuel oil.
They probably had oxygen bottles stored near the ammonium nitrate too.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at August 04, 2020 05:39 PM (WEBkv)
___________
And a bunch of barrels of fuel oil.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 04, 2020 05:44 PM (mht8P)
Posted by: Braenyard _ Waiting for his Maunder minimum at August 04, 2020 05:44 PM (qleR6)
327
Did anyone else get the notice of Googley being subject to a class action lawsuit? Of course you did.
The gist of it seems to be, Googley Plus was breached in 2018, so people's data might have been compromised. In other words, it was a day that ended in a "y."
So what do we get if we opt to get some of that sweet sweet Googley cash?
Five bucks a piece!
You heard that right, folks! We'z rich!!
Don't pay any attention to the ambulance chasers who get almost $2 mil out of the deal.
Jeez, is it possible to root for everyone involved to lose?
The gist of it seems to be, Googley Plus was breached in 2018, so people's data might have been compromised. In other words, it was a day that ended in a "y."
So what do we get if we opt to get some of that sweet sweet Googley cash?
Five bucks a piece!
You heard that right, folks! We'z rich!!
Don't pay any attention to the ambulance chasers who get almost $2 mil out of the deal.
Jeez, is it possible to root for everyone involved to lose?
Posted by: BurtTC at August 04, 2020 05:45 PM (hku12)
328
>Speaking of Trolls, check out this truly disturbing, infuriating bit about a Troll doll with a special button in a... particular spot
some sick fucks made that
some sick fucks made that
Posted by: DB- just DB. Bird= the word at August 04, 2020 05:45 PM (iTXRQ)
329
The "left-right" axis is a vast oversimplification. There's this binary, two-sides thing that has become ingrained in our political thinking. It has it uses and is pretty much how things shake out at any moment. But it is grossly inadequate to understand the political reality.
There are far more dimensions than just one. Far more. A position in political space required far more than one coordinate.
At any given time, there is some prevailing alignment that sort of runs a single axis through that space, and one is left or right depending on how one's own position projects on that axis.
So back in the '80s and '90s roughly, we were all on the same side at the axis as George Will and the Old Guard types.
But we had vast differences, vast differences in position along the other coordinates. It was just those weren't important enough to matter.
But then comes a Realignment. The issues and conflicts of the current day shift things, and a new axis becomes the focal point.
That's what's happening right now.
The Cuck Class is very far from us on this new emerging axis.
The "left-right" axis is a vast oversimplification. There's this binary, two-sides thing that has become ingrained in our political thinking. It has it uses and is pretty much how things shake out at any moment. But it is grossly inadequate to understand the political reality.
There are far more dimensions than just one. Far more. A position in political space required far more than one coordinate.
At any given time, there is some prevailing alignment that sort of runs a single axis through that space, and one is left or right depending on how one's own position projects on that axis.
So back in the '80s and '90s roughly, we were all on the same side at the axis as George Will and the Old Guard types.
But we had vast differences, vast differences in position along the other coordinates. It was just those weren't important enough to matter.
But then comes a Realignment. The issues and conflicts of the current day shift things, and a new axis becomes the focal point.
That's what's happening right now.
The Cuck Class is very far from us on this new emerging axis.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at August 04, 2020 05:46 PM (rCwaK)
330
Every loss forms the new defensive position. They have no fixed anchor. (Conservatives) are not a ship in a harbor, lashed to a specific point. They are floating in open sea while the thrusters maintain relative position. If a gale blows them off course, the thrusters just seek to maintain the position of wherever they end up.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 04, 2020 04:44 PM (hYcqw)
Events are about to make this behavior, which is accurately described here, impossible. The revolution is interested in them and a slow drift leftward won't sate the volcano. There probably isn't a political solution at this juncture.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 04, 2020 04:44 PM (hYcqw)
Events are about to make this behavior, which is accurately described here, impossible. The revolution is interested in them and a slow drift leftward won't sate the volcano. There probably isn't a political solution at this juncture.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at August 04, 2020 05:46 PM (puu6v)
331
> Uh...no. No, it's not.
Uh... yeah, it is.
Taconite, the most commonly used iron ore, is sedimentary rock with magnetite particles dispersed in it.
Magnetite is iron(II,III) oxide. Rust.
Uh... yeah, it is.
Taconite, the most commonly used iron ore, is sedimentary rock with magnetite particles dispersed in it.
Magnetite is iron(II,III) oxide. Rust.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at August 04, 2020 05:47 PM (unn44)
332
Maybe the Lebs hired Franco-African church janitors for cleanup??
Posted by: andycanuck at August 04, 2020 05:39 PM (an7Mv)
I love Franco-African! The have the best beanie weenies
Posted by: andycanuck at August 04, 2020 05:39 PM (an7Mv)
I love Franco-African! The have the best beanie weenies
Posted by: I'm Joe Biden and I Massage this approval at August 04, 2020 05:47 PM (Izzlo)
333
nood bomb
Posted by: Mikey NTH -Boo Hoo? You Do! Pity Party Supplies at The Outrage Outlet! at August 04, 2020 05:44 PM (in24S)
Why the F do I post anything. I swear I have no idea what time it is... in AoSHQland.
So we're FINALLY getting a post on the bomb? After every thread this morning became a bomb post.
Posted by: Mikey NTH -Boo Hoo? You Do! Pity Party Supplies at The Outrage Outlet! at August 04, 2020 05:44 PM (in24S)
Why the F do I post anything. I swear I have no idea what time it is... in AoSHQland.
So we're FINALLY getting a post on the bomb? After every thread this morning became a bomb post.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 04, 2020 05:47 PM (hku12)
334
309
That troll doll shit is real fucked up.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 04, 2020 05:40 PM (FokEf)
Agreed.
These people need to be gone after.
That troll doll shit is real fucked up.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 04, 2020 05:40 PM (FokEf)
Agreed.
These people need to be gone after.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 04, 2020 05:48 PM (ufFY8)
335
"Okay, you can fuck right off with your 'original idea'. I'm gonna give that $200 million to this guy who wants to make the action movie version of Welcome Back, Kotter. People know Welcome Back, Kotter."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield
that's sounds good if they did it dark. Epstein's mom signed his suicide note.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield
that's sounds good if they did it dark. Epstein's mom signed his suicide note.
Posted by: x at August 04, 2020 05:49 PM (nFwvY)
336
Yeah, for those who didn't go to the link, its a Troll doll of a singing litttle adorable troll baby looking thing with huge eyes.
It sings songs when you push her tummy, awww
Then you flip her over and between her legs is... another button. Yes, right there. And when you push it, it giggles and gasps and makes other similar noises.
Whoever made that has to be taken care of
It sings songs when you push her tummy, awww
Then you flip her over and between her legs is... another button. Yes, right there. And when you push it, it giggles and gasps and makes other similar noises.
Whoever made that has to be taken care of
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 04, 2020 05:52 PM (KZzsI)
337
Conservatism may indeed be unsalvageable
at this point. The old guard is too heavily invested in - nay, it
benefits too much from the status quo to own up to its failures, correct
its leftwarddrift grift
FIFY
at this point. The old guard is too heavily invested in - nay, it
benefits too much from the status quo to own up to its failures, correct
its leftward
FIFY
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at August 04, 2020 05:53 PM (rCwaK)
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Agreed, though at this point after watching the Star Wars debacle I'm convinced Disney is simply unable to make any new movies.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at August 04, 2020 05:40 PM (2BgZB)
Has anybody here seen they're doing a #$%& Aladdin II? WTAF? First, they destroy the original with a pathetic and drab "reimagining. Heck, the WOKE crowd has even given it a "trigger warning" on Netflix.
Just what I want to see is more Will Smith. Except now he's not going to be painted blue (or is he?). I doubt there's going to be much actual Aladdin in it.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at August 04, 2020 05:40 PM (2BgZB)
Has anybody here seen they're doing a #$%& Aladdin II? WTAF? First, they destroy the original with a pathetic and drab "reimagining. Heck, the WOKE crowd has even given it a "trigger warning" on Netflix.
Just what I want to see is more Will Smith. Except now he's not going to be painted blue (or is he?). I doubt there's going to be much actual Aladdin in it.
Posted by: clutch cargo at August 04, 2020 05:55 PM (8B6Ng)
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But Donald J. Trump is a Big doodyhead that is why we support Tuna Finger Bidet
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at August 04, 2020 06:06 PM (mrA4z)
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In the new nation, no 19th Amendment
Posted by: Anchorman at August 04, 2020 06:23 PM (2r8uS)
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Ah... yes. Remember when y'all jumped on the Rand Paul's a loon bandwagon? Seems he's been right all along.
Posted by: Iggycaster at August 04, 2020 06:32 PM (/t9XY)
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>>> I've been trying to think of that new word since 2001, to no avail.
Posted by: zombie at August 04, 2020 04:54 PM (HEEq1)
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When you find that, let us know. Pick a good one.
By the way, love your work. Especially back at the old LGF site.
AoSHQ is better then LGF anyway!
Posted by: zombie at August 04, 2020 04:54 PM (HEEq1)
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When you find that, let us know. Pick a good one.
By the way, love your work. Especially back at the old LGF site.
AoSHQ is better then LGF anyway!
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at August 04, 2020 06:34 PM (xptlg)
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Pretty good, mostly. But seriously ? Pornography ? The ONE piece of establishment conservatism we want to keep is social conservatism's pursuit of obscenity censorship ? Good fucking lord.
Posted by: deadrody at August 04, 2020 07:26 PM (V9901)
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I mean it is honestly undeniable that one of the MANY failure modes of the GWB administration was the post Janet Jackson Super Bowl "wardrobe malfunction" freakout. Hell, the GWB legacy is so unbelievably bad I had totally forgotten about that disaster.
Posted by: deadrody at August 04, 2020 07:28 PM (V9901)
Posted by: deadrody at August 04, 2020 07:29 PM (V9901)
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They're just as well bribed as the leftist scammers;
and just like the leftists they get paid to not know quite a lot of things.
and just like the leftists they get paid to not know quite a lot of things.
Posted by: Flubber at August 04, 2020 07:30 PM (PQnIX)
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55 WHAT ABOUT "PATRIOTISM?"
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at August 04, 2020 07:39 PM (ABuva)
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Thanks for recommending the article. It's basically what the alt-right was saying six years ago, before we disavowed the alt-right, because we allowed the left to control us with shame, as we still do today.
This plank in the New Right platform may inconvenience all the guys who can't get laid:
"[to fight the] various forms of soma that sap spiritedness (in particular pornography)."
This plank in the New Right platform may inconvenience all the guys who can't get laid:
"[to fight the] various forms of soma that sap spiritedness (in particular pornography)."
Posted by: gp at August 04, 2020 08:21 PM (qpX6U)
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Aw, this was a really nice post. Finding the time and actual
effort to create a top notch article... but what can I say...
I procrastinate a whole lot and don't seem to get anything done.
effort to create a top notch article... but what can I say...
I procrastinate a whole lot and don't seem to get anything done.
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