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In Trump v. Vance, the attempt by New York to subpoena President Trump's financial records as part of a state criminal investigation was upheld by a 7-2 majority.

As much as I want the President to be protected from frivolous and malicious state actions, I also dislike the mantle of nobility that so many in Washington wear, although it is obviously a politically motivated subpoena, and to think otherwise seems silly. But we live in silly times, and the Supreme Court is not immune to unserious actions. Perhaps they could have held that the attempt was transparently political and denied it without creating a precedent that would allow any government entity to harass a sitting president with ridiculous demands and suits and subpoenas.

Unfortunately we have as a Chief Justice an overtly political hack; a deep-state operative who runs the court as an arm of his personal political beliefs and feelings, one of which is that he dislikes the President.

What is next? Suing to see his colonoscopy results?

Addendum:
Here is Trump v. Mazars, the separation of powers case.

Posted by: CBD at 10:30 AM




Comments

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1 Mazars is a win, but Roberts says Congress can keep
trying, so he sent the case back to the trial level with instructions to
everyone to do it better. Somehow.


Roberts thinks he is King Solomon. His epilepsy is ruling the day.

Upshot is, both of these Presidential cases will be in court again for a
lot longer time. Roberts punted, because of the election presumably.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at July 09, 2020 10:32 AM (NVYyb)

2 Top 5 with a question. Sorry he kicked it back to the lower court?

Posted by: NALNAMSAM at July 09, 2020 10:33 AM (+ldAm)

3 Thomas should be Cj. I'm hoping for a vacancy

Posted by: CN at July 09, 2020 10:33 AM (ONvIw)

4 Trump does not have to turn over tax returns to congress, sent back to lower court. It's confusing.

Posted by: azalea city at July 09, 2020 10:34 AM (WX+x0)

5 hola chamucos y chamucas

Posted by: angsterdamn at July 09, 2020 10:34 AM (c/0cj)

6 Hmmm

I don't know what to think.

I do know, from past experience, this will likely be another torpedoe that circles back on the dems

Posted by: RoyalOil at July 09, 2020 10:34 AM (+CAgs)

7 Yeah, Trump was never going to win this one.

He might do better with prosecutorial misconduct as a separate case or cases.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 09, 2020 10:34 AM (unn44)

8 And.. what if Donnie Two Scoops says LOLGFY yeah I still ain't releasing them...

Posted by: NALNAMSAM at July 09, 2020 10:34 AM (+ldAm)

9 hiya

Posted by: JT at July 09, 2020 10:34 AM (arJlL)

10 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at July 09, 2020 10:35 AM (Zz0t1)

11 Looks like NY can keep legal poker on DJT. Knew Roberts would shiv DJT.

Posted by: azalea city at July 09, 2020 10:35 AM (WX+x0)

12 Early ape is early!

Also, I think they're building a disincentive for anyone who is not in the system to try their hand at political leadership. You come up through the machinery or you don't participate. Period.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 10:35 AM (hYcqw)

13 What is next? Suing to see his colonoscopy results?

Posted by: CBD at 10:30 AM


Ok. I'm game! It'd be a great way to celebrate my new job!

Posted by: SHEP!!! at July 09, 2020 10:35 AM (Zz0t1)

14 Ahhh!

Posted by: FrodoB-
Trying again at July 09, 2020 10:35 AM (dQF3z)

15 >>Trump does not have to turn over tax returns to congress, sent back to lower court. It's confusing.

What the SC said was that the lower court did not consider 4 key areas when making their ruling thus making the ruling void. They are telling them to do a do over.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2020 10:35 AM (ZLI7S)

16 Always baffles me how the CJ is chosen, definitely not seniority. Apparently it doesn't mean jack.

Posted by: Hat Tip at July 09, 2020 10:36 AM (4JGaO)

17 Colonoscopy results?....Trump is the asshole this country needs right now!

Posted by: BignJames at July 09, 2020 10:36 AM (X/Pw5)

18 Roberts is asshoe.

Posted by: azalea city at July 09, 2020 10:36 AM (WX+x0)

19 Does Clarence Thomas have an alibi on the day Roberts "fell" and hit his head?

"shifty eyes"

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2020 10:36 AM (ptqGC)

20 I'm looking forward to the "nothing-burger"

Posted by: SMOD at July 09, 2020 10:36 AM (3aI0K)

21 I find it funny that they're still fucking that tax chicken that had the IRS actually found ANYTHING on him, they'd have slayed him the minute he announced his candidacy.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at July 09, 2020 10:36 AM (Zz0t1)

22 3. We wont do better than Alito or Thomas.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at July 09, 2020 10:36 AM (svbBD)

23 Monkey is early, no?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 09, 2020 10:36 AM (oVJmc)

24 So how long before Trump's entire tax return is published in the NYT''s ? With zero repercussions because, you know, freedom of the press.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 09, 2020 10:37 AM (5ojuH)

25 In other words SCOTUS kicked the can down the road

Posted by: It's me donna at July 09, 2020 10:37 AM (Zmnko)

26 What is next? Suing to see his colonoscopy results?
++++++++++++++
I don't know why he's hiding them in the first place.

Posted by: Katie Couric at July 09, 2020 10:37 AM (hYcqw)

27 325 279 SCOTUS punted on both tax cases, sending them back down for further litigation effectively delaying releases until after election.
Posted by: WisRich at July 09, 2020 10:27 AM (G0vdT)

I take this as a rare win for Trump, on procedural grounds. All he has to do is delay release until November 3rd, and after that none of this matters. He might just voluntarily release them after that; there's nothing criminal in there, or else it would have all been leaked long ago. The Democrats only want them in the hope they can find something that looks embarrassing (not as much income as he said, who knows) that they can use in the campaign. Except for that, they're useless.

So the only real issue here is Time, and SCOTUS just handed Trump the Time he needs.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 09, 2020 10:37 AM (Kpl3J)

28 JANE!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at July 09, 2020 10:37 AM (Zz0t1)

29 SPONGE!!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2020 10:37 AM (ptqGC)

30 16 Always baffles me how the CJ is chosen, definitely not seniority. Apparently it doesn't mean jack.
Posted by: Hat Tip at July 09, 2020 10:36 AM (4JGaO)

Presidential appointment, Senate Confirmation.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 09, 2020 10:37 AM (Kpl3J)

31 President Bolsonaro: To those who cheer against Hydroxychloroquine, but do not have alternatives, I regret to inform you that I am very well with its use and, with the grace of God, I will live for a long time to come.

Posted by: SMOD at July 09, 2020 10:38 AM (3aI0K)

32 I do know, from past experience, this will likely be another torpedoe that circles back on the dems.



Which the GOP Senate quickly rush in to step in front of.

Posted by: Hat Tip at July 09, 2020 10:38 AM (4JGaO)

33 Does Clarence Thomas have an alibi on the day Roberts "fell" and hit his head?

"shifty eyes"
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2020 10:36 AM (ptqGC)


This would be the 2nd time since his confirmation he's done that.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at July 09, 2020 10:38 AM (Zz0t1)

34
*Munkey*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 09, 2020 10:38 AM (EGyGV)

35 22 3. We wont do better than Alito or Thomas.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at July 09, 2020 10:36 AM (svbBD)
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Nope. That's why I fear the reaper...or retirement.

Posted by: WisRich at July 09, 2020 10:38 AM (G0vdT)

36 Ted Cruz suggests two conditions Biden may impose for a debate.

Ted Cruz@tedcruz
Biden's two conditions: (1) the debate must occur in his basement, and (2) it cannot be televised or broadcast to anyone in America.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 09, 2020 10:38 AM (+y/Ru)

37 15 >>Trump does not have to turn over tax returns to congress, sent back to lower court. It's confusing.

What the SC said was that the lower court did not consider 4 key areas when making their ruling thus making the ruling void. They are telling them to do a do over.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Thanks Jack that helps

Posted by: NALNAMSAM at July 09, 2020 10:38 AM (axMIL)

38 Good to see you back in the mix, Jane.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at July 09, 2020 10:38 AM (Zz0t1)

39 And.. what if Donnie Two Scoops says LOLGFY yeah I still ain't releasing them...

Posted by: NALNAMSAM at July 09, 2020 10:34 AM (+ldAm)

===============
His accountants were subpoena'd, not him. They don't much care what PDJT has to say about it. They will do whatever the courts say must be done.


Right now, that's nothing.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at July 09, 2020 10:38 AM (NVYyb)

40 So how long before Trump's entire tax return is published in the NYT''s ? With zero repercussions because, you know, freedom of the press.


It won't be soon. This decision merely added a few miles of road to the course.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 09, 2020 10:38 AM (oVJmc)

41 As much as I want the President to be protected from frivolous and malicious state actions, I also dislike the mantle of nobility that so many in Washington wear,


If it applied yo everyone, yeah.

Since it doesn't, LOLGFY.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 10:38 AM (QFqpA)

42 >>So the only real issue here is Time, and SCOTUS just handed Trump the Time he needs.

Assuming he can drag it past the election I agree.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2020 10:38 AM (ZLI7S)

43 The pain meds help, Sponge.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2020 10:38 AM (ptqGC)

44 Thomas should be Cj. I'm hoping for a vacancy
Posted by: CN at July 09, 2020 10:33 AM (ONvIw)
++++++++++
Counter-factual/alternate history exercise:

Assume that Bush appointed Roberts as an Associate Justice and elevated Thomas to Chief Justice instead of appointing Roberts to the CJ position.

All other things being equal, would the Dems still have impeached Trump this year, knowing that his Senate trial would have Thomas presiding?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 10:39 AM (hYcqw)

45 If we still had the Light Bringer as President, the IRS would be on the case to look very closely at Attorney Vance's last ten years of income taxes.

Posted by: dc at July 09, 2020 10:39 AM (u0crE)

46 12 Early ape is early!

Also, I think they're building a disincentive for anyone who is not in the system to try their hand at political leadership. You come up through the machinery or you don't participate. Period.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 10:35 AM (hYcqw)

They have to know you're dirty if you want in the club.

Posted by: Allie at July 09, 2020 10:39 AM (vmRc0)

47 Both Vance and Mazars are political wins for Trump: Grand Jury case sent back to lower courts where Trump can raise other objections, and for now his accountants do not have to produce financial records to Democrats in Congress.

Posted by: Venus at July 09, 2020 10:39 AM (iYXhj)

48
Nope. That's why I fear the reaper...or retirement.
Posted by: WisRich at July 09, 2020 10:38 AM (G0vdT)


Or the pillow that got Scalia.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at July 09, 2020 10:40 AM (Zz0t1)

49 Super early

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 10:40 AM (LvTSG)

50 If there was any smoking guns in his taxes, it would have been leaked long ago

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 10:40 AM (1Dmt5)

51 Truly not voting our way out of this.

To see how well this is all planned out. So many fronts in this war.

Alinsky spoke to overwhelming the system. I can't help but believe this is all been planned out for a while.

BLM, court cases, activist judges, indoctrination, erasure of history, physical assaults, 2nd amendment attacks, assaults on freedom of religion, COVID used as a political tool, racial division as a strategy.

Until we get a General who's willing to bring the full force of either the US or the citizens, these jokers are going to continue to win the skirmishes.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 09, 2020 10:40 AM (WvQcX)

52 325 279 SCOTUS punted on both tax cases, sending them back down for further litigation effectively delaying releases until after election.
Posted by: WisRich at July 09, 2020 10:27 AM (G0vdT)

Ok, I'm confused. The MSM is gleefully cheering that the NY DA can now have Trump's tax returns. Is that incorrect?

Posted by: Jen the original at July 09, 2020 10:40 AM (5ojuH)

53 His accountants were subpoena'd, not him. They don't
much care what PDJT has to say about it. They will do whatever the
courts say must be done.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at July 09, 2020 10:38 AM (NVYyb)

I wonder whether the President can walk into the accountant's office and demand all of his files. Just take them back! Then NY will have to sue in federal court to get them.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 09, 2020 10:40 AM (dLLD6)

54 Now, did anybody determine when Sullivan's deadline actually is?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 09, 2020 10:40 AM (oVJmc)

55 SCOTUS Judge Ted Cruz.

Wouldn't be enough popcorn in the world.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2020 10:40 AM (ptqGC)

56 Drumpf is finished now, walls are closing in!!!!
/CNN

Posted by: brak at July 09, 2020 10:40 AM (cG+eD)

57 They have to know you're dirty if you want in the club.
Posted by: Allie at July 09, 2020 10:39 AM (vmRc0)
++++++++++
Yup. Like the Mafia. You can't get made without committing serious crimes, and binding yourself to them (and they to you) through mutual liability and guilt. Politics is the same way.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 10:40 AM (hYcqw)

58 Don Lemon: Jesus Was Not Perfect When He Was Here On Earth

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He didn't burn or loot a single store!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 09, 2020 10:41 AM (+y/Ru)

59 They have to know you're dirty if you want in the club.


Hence people like Epstein.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 09, 2020 10:41 AM (oVJmc)

60 And.. what if Donnie Two Scoops says LOLGFY yeah I still ain't releasing them...
---
That's just the thing: There's an 80% chance that they already have them.

So either:
1) There's nothing in there and they were hoping to blame the court for protecting Trump
2) There's something in there but they haven't leaked it
3) There's embarrassing info in there but they needed a legal reason to have them and leak it

Most likely-- there's nothing because there's a lot of CPA licenses on the line who ain't going to lie no matter who the client is/was

Posted by: RoyalOil at July 09, 2020 10:41 AM (+CAgs)

61 PowerlineBlog has all the video from the Geroge Floyd arrest.
It looks like the police did follow procedures, so Kieth Ellison will have a real hard time making the charges stick.Apparently, Floyd was still alive when the paramedics arrived, but seems to have had a heart attack thereafter.
Goes to show what bad can happen when you resist arrest.

Posted by: SMOD at July 09, 2020 10:41 AM (3aI0K)

62 The pain meds help, Sponge.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2020 10:38 AM (ptqGC)


Well, high Jane is better than no Jane, so we'll take it.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at July 09, 2020 10:41 AM (Zz0t1)

63 The pain meds help

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2020 10:38 AM (ptqGC)

Try 'em with a martini...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 09, 2020 10:41 AM (dLLD6)

64
The pain meds help, Sponge.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2020 10:38 AM (ptqGC)






Yay! Good drugs! And colonics for EVERYONE!!!

But watch out for those things called.... uhhhh.... germs. Invented by some guy named Semmelweiss.

Posted by: Jeffrey Goines at July 09, 2020 10:41 AM (EGyGV)

65 Don Lemon: Jesus Was Not Perfect When He Was Here On Earth

-
He didn't burn or loot a single store!




He cleared the hucksters out of the temple, though.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 09, 2020 10:42 AM (oVJmc)

66 Ok, I'm confused. The MSM is gleefully cheering that the NY DA can now have Trump's tax returns. Is that incorrect?

Posted by: Jen the original at July 09, 2020 10:40 AM (5ojuH)

===============
Yes, that is incorrect.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at July 09, 2020 10:42 AM (NVYyb)

67 36 Ted Cruz suggests two conditions Biden may impose for a debate.

Ted Cruz@tedcruz
Biden's two conditions: (1) the debate must occur in his basement, and (2) it cannot be televised or broadcast to anyone in America.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 09, 2020 10:38 AM (+y/Ru)



This is what our politicians are doing. Twitter snark.

Like farting in the wind. Country is burning and our side is keeping Twitter score.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 09, 2020 10:42 AM (WvQcX)

68 Ok, I'm confused. The MSM is gleefully cheering that the NY DA can now have Trump's tax returns. Is that incorrect?
Posted by: Jen the original at July 09, 2020 10:40 AM (5ojuH)
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Yes.

Let me qualify: In the long term? Maybe. In the short term? Nope

Posted by: WisRich at July 09, 2020 10:42 AM (G0vdT)

69
I wonder whether the President can walk into the accountant's office and demand all of his files. Just take them back! Then NY will have to sue in federal court to get them.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 09, 2020 10:40 AM (dLLD6)


It's a plan that's so crazy, it just might WORK!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at July 09, 2020 10:43 AM (Zz0t1)

70 Beto: Republicans Refuse Gun Control Because They're in a 'Death Cult'

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That's right, Blotto. We're the death cult.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 09, 2020 10:43 AM (+y/Ru)

71 Ok, I'm confused. The MSM is gleefully cheering that the NY DA can now have Trump's tax returns. Is that incorrect?
Posted by: Jen the original at July 09, 2020 10:40 AM (5ojuH)

***************************

Yes, that is incorrect. SCOTUS sent it back to the trial court to hear the other objections Trump raised.

This is going to be tied up in courts until well after the election in November.

Posted by: Venus at July 09, 2020 10:43 AM (iYXhj)

72 42 >>So the only real issue here is Time, and SCOTUS just handed Trump the Time he needs.

Assuming he can drag it past the election I agree.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2020 10:38 AM (ZLI7S)

I think his team should be able to do that, at least. As Gen'l Flynn has found out, the system is built to make it easy to milk a case for as long as any party in it wants to. At the very least, you can wait until the day before the hearing and then have your entire legal team say "Oh wait we were just exposed to Covid from the Janitor! We need 6 weeks Quarantine!!!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 09, 2020 10:43 AM (Kpl3J)

73 My guess is, Obama admin already pulled every Trump return and the dems are itching to run with some stupid issue but they need a plausible reason for having the returns in the first place

Posted by: Hat Tip at July 09, 2020 10:43 AM (4JGaO)

74 CBD, my liver, and husband, would object. Haven't had a cocktail in three weeks.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2020 10:43 AM (ptqGC)

75 Ok, I'm confused. The MSM is gleefully cheering that the NY DA can now have Trump's tax returns. Is that incorrect?
Posted by: Jen the original at July 09, 2020 10:40 AM (5ojuH)

It's the MSM. Of course it's incorrect.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 09, 2020 10:43 AM (7HGEW)

76 Has Emmet Sullivan committed sepukku for his 'principles' yet?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2020 10:43 AM (HIrju)

77 Beto: Republicans Refuse Gun Control Because They're in a 'Death Cult'



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That's right, Blotto. We're the death cult.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 09, 2020 10:43 AM (+y/Ru)


Says the party of infanticide

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 09, 2020 10:44 AM (t+tI7)

78 75 Ok, I'm confused. The MSM is gleefully cheering that the NY DA can now have Trump's tax returns. Is that incorrect?
Posted by: Jen the original at July 09, 2020 10:40 AM (5ojuH)

It's the MSM. Of course it's incorrect.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 09, 2020 10:43 AM (7HGEW)

===========

"We won! We're getting Trump's tax returns!"
-The Left

-----months pass------

"What was ever in those tax returns?"

"Dunno. They never got released."

"What?!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 10:44 AM (LvTSG)

79 3
Thomas should be Cj. I'm hoping for a vacancy

Posted by: CN at July 09, 2020 10:33 AM (ONvIw)

No announced retirements today.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 09, 2020 10:44 AM (N39Ws)

80 76 Has Emmet Sullivan committed sepukku for his 'principles' yet?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2020 10:43 AM (HIrju)

=========

With a bamboo sword.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 10:44 AM (LvTSG)

81 The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the eastern half of Oklahoma can be considered Native American territory, a decision the state previously warned could create "civil, criminal and regulatory turmoil."

The 5-4 decision was written by Associate Justice Neil Gorsuch and joined by the court's four liberal justices. The justices were considering the issue for the second time after failing to decide a different case last year, when Gorsuch was recused and the court likely deadlocked.

Posted by: SMOD at July 09, 2020 10:44 AM (3aI0K)

82 why is the MFM Gleeful about the ruling??? Because they are Fucking RETARDED !!

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 10:45 AM (1Dmt5)

83 77
Beto: Republicans Refuse Gun Control Because They're in a 'Death Cult'





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That's right, Blotto. We're the death cult.



Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 09, 2020 10:43 AM (+y/Ru)


Says the party of infanticide


Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 09, 2020 10:44 AM (t+tI7)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 09, 2020 10:45 AM (N39Ws)

84 I don't think Roberts is a liberal hack. I think he's being blackmailed. "Somebody" found his pedo porn stash during the Obamacare case and they've been running SCOTUS ever since.

Posted by: Conspiracy Bob at July 09, 2020 10:45 AM (LKg2H)

85 Beto: Republicans Refuse Gun Control Because They're in a 'Death Cult'

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That's right, Blotto. We're the death cult.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks


If we were a death cult, there wouldn't be and Dems left.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 10:46 AM (QFqpA)

86 So Verizon won't let me copy/paste on my iPhone for some reason now.

Grrrrr...

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2020 10:46 AM (ptqGC)

87 71 Ok, I'm confused. The MSM is gleefully cheering that the NY DA can now have Trump's tax returns. Is that incorrect?
Posted by: Jen the original at July 09, 2020 10:40 AM (5ojuH)

The MSM forgets that both the IRS, and the New York State Revenue Dep't, have had all of these returns since the day they were filed, and they have both gone through them with a fine toothed comb. It's laughable to think that DA Vance will find something in there that the 100 forensic accountants who have already gone through them couldn't find.

Vance just wants them so someone in his office can officially leak them to the NYT and WaPo.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 09, 2020 10:46 AM (Kpl3J)

88 Good to see you back in the mix, Jane.


Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe!

Seconded !

Posted by: JT at July 09, 2020 10:46 AM (arJlL)

89 lol. Gorsuch just declared half the state of Oklahoma belongs to the Creek.

This should work out well.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 09, 2020 10:46 AM (VpIIl)

90 For all of you suggesting Biden won't debate, James Carville, whom I submit is way more Slitherin-looking than you are, says Joe is a fantastic debater, having vanquished some of the most formidable opponents during the primary debates, and will eat President Trump alive, IF the President even dares to debate him.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 09, 2020 10:46 AM (DMUuz)

91 Has Emmet Sullivan committed sepukku for his 'principles' yet?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2020 10:43 AM (HIrju)

=========

With a bamboo sword.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


Rusty butter knife.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 10:46 AM (QFqpA)

92 lol. MUNG babbling about psychosis.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2020 10:47 AM (ptqGC)

93
I wonder whether the President can walk into the
accountant's office and demand all of his files. Just take them back!
Then NY will have to sue in federal court to get them.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 09, 2020 10:40 AM (dLLD6)

===============
Very good question. As you probably know as well as I, once a litigation is threatened the parties normally notice each other to "preserve all records". In this case, the accountants would probably love to hand everything back to Trump but they would make him sue to get the records, I'd imagine, so as to honor the "preserve all records" notice in the case (if one was ever issued).
But this case is different. There is no underlying litigation. It's a Congressional subpoena. So I would ask a smart lawyer this question. And I am not one.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at July 09, 2020 10:47 AM (NVYyb)

94 87 71 Ok, I'm confused. The MSM is gleefully cheering that the NY DA can now have Trump's tax returns. Is that incorrect?
Posted by: Jen the original at July 09, 2020 10:40 AM (5ojuH)

The MSM forgets that both the IRS, and the New York State Revenue Dep't, have had all of these returns since the day they were filed, and they have both gone through them with a fine toothed comb. It's laughable to think that DA Vance will find something in there that the 100 forensic accountants who have already gone through them couldn't find.

Vance just wants them so someone in his office can officially leak them to the NYT and WaPo.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 09, 2020 10:46 AM (Kpl3J)

========

Are you implying that the IRS, that abused its powers to depress Republican aligned interest groups, would abuse its powers in any way shape or form?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 10:47 AM (LvTSG)

95 Ok. breitbart is reporting that they straight up won.

Says the lower court simply has to make the final, official demand of the taxes and Mazers has to turn them over.

Sound like they are getting the returns now.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 09, 2020 10:47 AM (WvQcX)

96 Super early
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield

Sooper-Dooper Early !

Posted by: JT at July 09, 2020 10:47 AM (arJlL)

97 Vance just wants them so someone in his office can officially leak them to the NYT and WaPo.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 09, 2020 10:46 AM (Kpl3J)
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Yup.
An organization as big as Trump's usually has an office or two dedicated to auditors. The men on the state side look for anything they can find to milk the cash cow a little drier. If there were any there there, they'd have prosecuted long ago.

Somehow, it isn't all leaking out of the revenue services. So different groups want it to make sure that it leaks, to sow class warfare.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 10:47 AM (hYcqw)

98 90 For all of you suggesting Biden won't debate, James Carville, whom I submit is way more Slitherin-looking than you are, says Joe is a fantastic debater, having vanquished some of the most formidable opponents during the primary debates, and will eat President Trump alive, IF the President even dares to debate him.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 09, 2020 10:46 AM (DMUuz)

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Ah, Kamala Harris, the titan undone by a single riposte from a nobody Congresswoman.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 10:48 AM (LvTSG)

99 Wakes up.
Scratches
Looks around.
Dang. Early monkey?
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 09, 2020 10:48 AM (axyOa)

100 Both Vance and Mazars are political wins for Trump: Grand Jury case sent back to lower courts where Trump can raise other objections, and for now his accountants do not have to produce financial records to Democrats in Congress.
---
I suspect, without reading the Vance, what it really says is, "the DA says he has an unlimited right to subpoena. Trump says he has absolute immunity from subpoenas. We think the President's records can be subpoenaed but it's limited-- tell us how you limited it, Mr. DA."

Posted by: RoyalOil at July 09, 2020 10:48 AM (+CAgs)

101 The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the eastern half of Oklahoma can be considered Native American territory, a decision the state previously warned could create "civil, criminal and regulatory turmoil."

The 5-4 decision was written by Associate Justice Neil Gorsuch and joined by the court's four liberal justices. The justices were considering the issue for the second time after failing to decide a different case last year, when Gorsuch was recused and the court likely deadlocked.
Posted by: SMOD at July 09, 2020 10:44 AM (3aI0K0

Tell that to the ranchers that own thousands of acres of eastern Oklahoma.
So is Eastern Oklahoma part of the state of Oklahoma or a territory ceded to Native Americans?



Gorsuch must be taking the same mushrooms Roberts is.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 09, 2020 10:48 AM (5ojuH)

102 Is Vance the spawn of Cyrus Vance?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2020 10:48 AM (ptqGC)

103 Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE NEIL GORSUCH at July 09, 2020 10:48 AM (Pzzpr)

You DICK!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at July 09, 2020 10:48 AM (Zz0t1)

104 Haven't had a cocktail in three weeks.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2020 10:43 AM (ptqGC)

I am so, so sorry.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 09, 2020 10:49 AM (dLLD6)

105
Says the lower court simply has to make the final, official demand of the taxes and Mazers has to turn them over.

Like Trump's lawyers wouldn't fight that?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 09, 2020 10:49 AM (Zmnko)

106 lol. Gorsuch just declared half the state of Oklahoma belongs to the Creek.


Creek sue for 100+ years of back rent.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 09, 2020 10:49 AM (oVJmc)

107 From JJ's links - Palmyra restaurant Taste of Sicily -

"Some rob you with a gun, while others rob you with a pen," co-owner Mike Mangano noted to the outlet, referring to Wolf. "We ain't paying crap."

"We don't care what the repercussions may be. We want the world to see how ridiculous it is for being penalized to go to work," he said in a press conference last month. "Nobody's asking business owners to take up arms or go to war. Open your doors already."


I am going to buy a gift card from them today. God Bless These Americans.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 09, 2020 10:49 AM (3SIUH)

108 So Verizon won't let me copy/paste on my iPhone for some reason now.

Grrrrr...
Posted by: Jane D'oh



Jane, is it an iPhone? Someone said yesterday that Apple and Google canceled copy/paste.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 10:49 AM (QFqpA)

109 so, i'm lost. and trying to figure out what's good or bad on this.

i get the congress request goes back to court, that's a win, but doesn't SDNY get his records?

Posted by: SturmToddler at July 09, 2020 10:49 AM (8D42x)

110 Uh, SCOTUS remanded the case back to the lower courts. They noted the president doesn't have unlimited immunity. But they want the case now litigated based on the need and facts for this particular issue.

Liberals are crowing the president must turn over his taxes. Nope, there is another long court battle without the issue of "unlimited presidential immunity" on the table.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 09, 2020 10:49 AM (VpIIl)

111 Trump should sign an executive order publicly releasing the tax returns of every member of Congress.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 09, 2020 10:49 AM (I2/tG)

112 100 Both Vance and Mazars are political wins for Trump: Grand Jury case sent back to lower courts where Trump can raise other objections, and for now his accountants do not have to produce financial records to Democrats in Congress.
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I suspect, without reading the Vance, what it really says is, "the DA says he has an unlimited right to subpoena. Trump says he has absolute immunity from subpoenas. We think the President's records can be subpoenaed but it's limited-- tell us how you limited it, Mr. DA."
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 09, 2020 10:48 AM (+CAgs)

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The unyieldingly optimistic side of me thinks this is the first effort to undo absolute immunity.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 10:49 AM (LvTSG)

113 Is Vance the spawn of Cyrus Vance?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 09, 2020 10:48 AM (ptqGC)


Vince Vance and the Valiants?

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at July 09, 2020 10:49 AM (Zz0t1)

114 102. Yes.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at July 09, 2020 10:49 AM (svbBD)

115 The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the eastern half of Oklahoma can be considered Native American territory, a decision the state previously warned could create "civil, criminal and regulatory turmoil."

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That seems like kind of a big deal.

Posted by: josephistan at July 09, 2020 10:50 AM (Izzlo)

116 95 Ok. breitbart is reporting that they straight up won.

Says the lower court simply has to make the final, official demand of the taxes and Mazers has to turn them over.

Sound like they are getting the returns now.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 09, 2020 10:47 AM (WvQcX)
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The decision itself said there are other issues that can be raised by defendant. It wont be that easy for the DA.

Posted by: WisRich at July 09, 2020 10:51 AM (G0vdT)

117 8 And.. what if Donnie Two Scoops says LOLGFY yeah I still ain't releasing them...
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"The Supreme Court has made its, decision, now it may enforce it." - Andrew Jackson

Posted by: exdem13 at July 09, 2020 10:51 AM (W+kMI)

118 So SCOTUS punted. Nobody is going to get Trump's tax returns before the election.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 09, 2020 10:51 AM (JUOKG)

119 115 The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the eastern half of Oklahoma can be considered Native American territory, a decision the state previously warned could create "civil, criminal and regulatory turmoil."

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Plus, dogs and cats living together.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 09, 2020 10:51 AM (wPVhA)

120 SCOTUS Judge Ted Cruz.
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The ONLY reason I would support Cruz leaving the Senate right now is for Chief Justice.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 09, 2020 10:51 AM (MIKMs)

121 >>The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the eastern half of Oklahoma can be considered Native American territory


Because they've done such a good job with the rest of their holdings...

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2020 10:51 AM (IdFgk)

122 >>so, i'm lost. and trying to figure out what's good or bad on this.

Thomas and Alito were the lone dissenters in both cases. That ought to tell you something.

Posted by: fly at July 09, 2020 10:52 AM (2M/TV)

123 Civil War starting soon.

Moose out front shoulda toldja.

Posted by: blaster at July 09, 2020 10:52 AM (Ieq1i)

124 Breitbart isn't an expert on anything except dogshit software and hiring brainless see you next Tuesdays like Michelle Fields.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 09, 2020 10:52 AM (y7DUB)

125 Ok. breitbart is reporting that they straight up won.

Says the lower court simply has to make the final, official demand of the taxes and Mazers has to turn them over.

Sound like they are getting the returns now.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 09, 2020 10:47 AM (WvQcX)

I stopped trusting everything Breitbart publishes a while ago. I appreciate Breitbart's willingness to write about things the MSM won't, but accuracy isn't always their strong suit. And they are as susceptible to hyperbole as any MSM.

Just this morning Alex...whats his name on Breitbart XM was stating the the economy in the US is in "dire straits".

Posted by: Jen the original at July 09, 2020 10:52 AM (5ojuH)

126 The whole point of the tax returns is to find out who he does business with, Fox them and go after them. Isolate the Trump family in the business world.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 09, 2020 10:52 AM (axyOa)

127
The decision itself said there are other issues that can be raised by defendant. It wont be that easy for the DA.
Posted by: WisRich at July 09, 2020 10:51 AM (G0vdT


Ok. The Breitbart report is leaving that part out. They basically say in a few weeks the court will make the final judgement (lower court) and trigger the request.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 09, 2020 10:52 AM (WvQcX)

128 The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the eastern half of Oklahoma can be considered Native American territory, a decision the state previously warned could create "civil, criminal and regulatory turmoil.

Posted by: SMOD

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No offense to our Okie Morons but is the aim to turn Eastern OK into just one more shitty res?

Posted by: Tonypete at July 09, 2020 10:52 AM (Rvt88)

129 >>The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the eastern half of Oklahoma can be considered Native American territory


They should have to return the Historical Property Taxes they have taken from those Landowners, btw.

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2020 10:52 AM (IdFgk)

130 "Says the lower court simply has to make the final, official demand of the taxes and Mazers has to turn them over."

Not true from what I'm reading of the SCOTUS decision. They remanded it to the lower court on the specific issues without unlimited immunity as an issue. That simply means another court battle specific to the issues and reasoning.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 09, 2020 10:53 AM (VpIIl)

131 The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the eastern half of Oklahoma can be considered Native American territory


Because they've done such a good job with the rest of their holdings...
Posted by: garrett



Yay! Moar casinos!

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 10:53 AM (QFqpA)

132 Ok, I'm confused. The MSM is gleefully cheering that the NY DA can now have Trump's tax returns. Is that incorrect?

Posted by: Jen the original at July 09, 2020 10:40 AM (5ojuH)

No - Trump is being forced to fight that out...he sought to kill it in the crib so to speak, but the SCOTUS said, nah, Brah - you got to bring your reasons to the lower court

Posted by: Boswell at July 09, 2020 10:54 AM (32YRo)

133 80 76 Has Emmet Sullivan committed sepukku for his 'principles' yet?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 09, 2020 10:43 AM (HIrju)

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With a bamboo sword.
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Can we just have him smashed on the head with a tetsubo?

Posted by: exdem13 at July 09, 2020 10:54 AM (W+kMI)

134 Breitbart has just become another barking dog. This type of garbage further erodes their credibility.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 09, 2020 10:54 AM (VpIIl)

135 So is Eastern Oklahoma part of the state of Oklahoma or a territory ceded to Native Americans?


That's the only liveable part of OK!

Posted by: Cigar Store Injun at July 09, 2020 10:54 AM (LKg2H)

136 https://washex.am/323xk0G
*********
DOJ activity indicates John Durham preparing indictments, John Solomon reports

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 10:54 AM (1Dmt5)

137 Biden says he would rescind exemption for Little Sisters of the Poor.

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic. at July 09, 2020 10:54 AM (KgzRF)

138 Oklahoma will just be one big Indian Casino.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at July 09, 2020 10:55 AM (svbBD)

139 136 https://washex.am/323xk0G
*********
DOJ activity indicates John Durham preparing indictments, John Solomon reports
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 10:54 AM (1Dmt5)

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I like the look of these tea leaves.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 10:55 AM (LvTSG)

140 115 The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the eastern half of Oklahoma can be considered Native American territory, a decision the state previously warned could create "civil, criminal and regulatory turmoil."

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All those suburban homes will have to be razed and replaced with hogans with abandoned pickup trucks out front.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 09, 2020 10:55 AM (wPVhA)

141 137 Biden says he would rescind exemption for Little Sisters of the Poor.
Posted by: Last Days of the Republic. at July 09, 2020 10:54 AM (KgzRF)

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"Such a great Catholic!"
-40-45% of Catholics

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 10:55 AM (LvTSG)

142 137 Biden says he would rescind exemption for Little Sisters of the Poor.
Posted by: Last Days of the Republic. at July 09, 2020 10:54 AM (KgzRF)
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But only after they let him smell their hair.

Posted by: WisRich at July 09, 2020 10:55 AM (G0vdT)

143 So now Barr and Co can officially demand the tax returns of Clinton's, their foundation, Epstein,
Schiff, Pelosi, Biden,etc....

Right? That's how we fight?

Why is the GOPe laughing?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 09, 2020 10:55 AM (WvQcX)

144 >>Biden says he would rescind exemption for Little Sisters of the Poor.


Funny how they ignore the Court when it is convenient.

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2020 10:55 AM (IdFgk)

145 So SCOTUS punted.....




No, turns out it was a fake punt. They advanced it but then lateralled back to the lower court which triggers an automatic time out.

Posted by: Hat Tip at July 09, 2020 10:55 AM (4JGaO)

146 The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the eastern half of Oklahoma can be considered Native American territory

Posted by: garrett

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Well, there is precedent - see CHOAD in WA for example.

That worked out well.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 09, 2020 10:56 AM (Rvt88)

147 The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the eastern half of Oklahoma can be considered Native American territory, a decision the state previously warned could create "civil, criminal and regulatory turmoil.

Posted by: SMOD




Fuck 'em. Take it up with France.

We bought the land from France fair and square.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 10:56 AM (QFqpA)

148 Sooo... the Dems think that the IRS didn't bother to check the tax returns of a billionaire back when he filed them?

Posted by: RKae at July 09, 2020 10:56 AM (tmL+x)

149 >>All those suburban homes will have to be razed and replaced with hogans with abandoned pickup trucks out front.


Go long on Snowmobile Futures.

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2020 10:56 AM (IdFgk)

150 That Oklahoma case also says they overturned the rape conviction of a tribe member, "because the location where the crime was committed should have been considered outside the reach of state criminal law."

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 09, 2020 10:56 AM (j0qnN)

151 Biden says he would rescind exemption for Little Sisters of the Poor.
Posted by: Last Days of the Republic. at July 09, 2020 10:54 AM (KgzRF)

Isn't he supposed to be a practicing Catholic?

Posted by: Jen the original at July 09, 2020 10:56 AM (5ojuH)

152 65 Don Lemon: Jesus Was Not Perfect When He Was Here On Earth
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He didn't burn or loot a single store!

He cleared the hucksters out of the temple, though.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 09, 2020 10:42 AM

And he fucked up my payday loan stall!

Posted by: Money Lender at July 09, 2020 10:56 AM (Of/Uk)

153 For all of you suggesting Biden won't debate, James Carville, whom I
submit is way more Slitherin-looking than you are, says Joe is a
fantastic debater, having vanquished some of the most formidable
opponents during the primary debates, and will eat President Trump
alive, IF the President even dares to debate him.




Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 09, 2020 10:46 AM

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Smoke screen. As I said earlier the democrats are panicking over biden having to debate Trump.

He can't put together a coherent sentence even when he is reading from a teleprompter, there is no way he can be on stage with Trump and answer quesitons.


I predict he will weasel his way out of all three debates. Trump asked for a fourth one, but biden said Trump wasn't being serious.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 09, 2020 10:56 AM (JUOKG)

154 143. Thats not who we are....

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at July 09, 2020 10:57 AM (svbBD)

155 FUBAR

Posted by: azalea city at July 09, 2020 10:57 AM (WX+x0)

156 Fuck 'em. Take it up with France.

We bought the land from France fair and square.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 10:56 AM (QFqpA)

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NO REFUNDS!

Posted by: L'Emperour Napoleon at July 09, 2020 10:57 AM (wPVhA)

157 Biden says he would rescind exemption for Little Sisters of the Poor.
Posted by: Last Days of the Republic. at July 09, 2020 10:54 AM (KgzRF)


This just in:

Trump says "Biden is not a slobbering old coot"

Biden says "I am too"

Posted by: DR.WTF at July 09, 2020 10:57 AM (AiZBA)

158 Biden is just saying the opposite of whatever Trump does.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 09, 2020 10:57 AM (WvQcX)

159 The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the eastern half of Oklahoma can be considered Native American territory, a decision the state previously warned could create "civil, criminal and regulatory turmoil."

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I miss the old days when giving it back to the Indians was a sarcastic suggestion meaning to do something completely idiotic.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 09, 2020 10:57 AM (+y/Ru)

160 The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the eastern half of Oklahoma can be considered Native American territory, a decision the state previously warned could create "civil, criminal and regulatory turmoil." ...
Posted by: SMOD at July 09, 2020 10:44 AM (3aI0K)
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Huh. Tulsa and Muskogee are gonna present interesting problems, at a minimum...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 10:57 AM (hYcqw)

161 So SCOTUS punted.....




No, turns out it was a fake punt. They advanced it but then lateralled back to the lower court which triggers an automatic time out.
Posted by: Hat Tip



WTF? Are the Three Stooges running the team?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 10:57 AM (QFqpA)

162 lol. Gorsuch just declared half the state of Oklahoma belongs to the Creek.



This should work out well.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 09, 2020 10:46 AM (VpIIl)


Liz Warren: Squaw return to native land to become first female chief of tribe now.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 09, 2020 10:57 AM (t+tI7)

163 Rotten Thursday. My Small Claims case was continued for three weeks and now this.


My trigger finger is getting itchy.

Posted by: creeper at July 09, 2020 10:57 AM (XxJt1)

164 >>That Oklahoma case also says they overturned the rape conviction of a tribe member, "because the location where the crime was committed should have been considered outside the reach of state criminal law."


When are we gonna slap a Logan Act Violation on Democrats for their work within Sovereign Nations to affect the US Elections?

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2020 10:57 AM (IdFgk)

165 DOJ activity indicates John Durham preparing indictments, John Solomon reports
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 10:54 AM (1Dmt5)


I seem to remember reading this same thing last year.

#twoweeks

Posted by: blaster at July 09, 2020 10:58 AM (Ieq1i)

166 Biden says he would rescind exemption for Little Sisters of the Poor.
Posted by: Last Days of the Republic.

Isn't he supposed to be a practicing Catholic?
Posted by: Jen the original

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

*deep breath*

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Slow Joe is as Catholic as Pelosi.

So, No.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 09, 2020 10:58 AM (Rvt88)

167 Yup.

Just read the opinion in Vance.

It is as I thought: Trump said he had absolute immunity from any federal or state subpoenas, Court said, "not absolute, but you can still raise the objection this specific subpoena should be quashed for all the reasons you said you had absolute immunity."

This issue is going to be litigated way into next year-- they won't get Trump's returns before the election.

Posted by: RoyalOil at July 09, 2020 10:58 AM (+CAgs)

168 81 The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the eastern half of Oklahoma can be considered Native American territory, a decision the state previously warned could create "civil, criminal and regulatory turmoil."

The 5-4 decision was written by Associate Justice Neil Gorsuch and joined by the court's four liberal justices. The justices were considering the issue for the second time after failing to decide a different case last year, when Gorsuch was recused and the court likely deadlocked.
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Ever get the feeling sometimes that SCOTUS lives in an ivory tower debating hall and never takes real-world considerations and consequences into account?

Posted by: exdem13 at July 09, 2020 10:58 AM (W+kMI)

169 Carvile is full of shit. Front page NY Slime is setting up excuses for Biden to back out.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 09, 2020 10:58 AM (WvQcX)

170 54 Now, did anybody determine when Sullivan's deadline actually is?
______________

Sidebar says it's 14 days. Under federal rules, you don't count the day of the triggering event (first day), and if the deadline is more than 11 days you include weekend and holiday days in the count, so if the ruling was issued 6/24, then the 14 days would end on 7/8, so it looks like time is up for Sullivan.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 09, 2020 10:58 AM (k4dH2)

171 If an SC judge can be appointed for life?

Why can't a President have unlimited immunity?

Also where the hell are Obama's college transcripts?

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 09, 2020 10:58 AM (3SIUH)

172 For all of you suggesting Biden won't debate, James Carville, whom I submit is way more Slitherin-looking than you are, says Joe is a fantastic debater, having vanquished some of the most formidable opponents during the primary debates, and will eat President Trump alive, IF the President even dares to debate him.

--

Being that Joe Biden was and is a very nasty, condescending jackwad, that might've been true in the past for going up against certain people (like that limp brained Paul Ryan).

However, Donald Trump isn't Paul Ryan. Not by a long shot. And Joe's brain is in spongiform status. Bring him on, Carville.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 09, 2020 10:58 AM (O+I8R)

173 >>Don Lemon: Jesus Was Not Perfect When He Was Here On Earth


But those Cum Gutters!? Am I right, Don?

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2020 10:59 AM (IdFgk)

174 DOJ activity indicates John Durham preparing indictments, John Solomon reports

****

#twoweeks

Posted by: Two Weeks From Being An Asshole at July 09, 2020 10:59 AM (+dsLj)

175 135 So is Eastern Oklahoma part of the state of Oklahoma or a territory ceded to Native Americans?

That's the only liveable part of OK!
Posted by: Cigar Store Injun at July 09, 2020 10:54 AM (LKg2H)

This is a really weird one to figure out. As best I can tell, private property ownership is unaffected, but those with recognized American Indian ancestry living in the Eastern Half of Oklahoma will no longer be subject to any State Law, only to Tribal Law and US Federal Law.

But those of caucasian, asian, hispanic, and black heritage will still be subject to Oklahoma Law. Will they be subject to Tribal law as well? Unclear.

It looks like they've created a situation where, if someone is arrested for a crime, there will have to be an examination of their citizenship and ancestry papers before anyone can decide what laws apply to them.

and that's insane.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 09, 2020 10:59 AM (Kpl3J)

176 But only after they let him smell their hair.


*********

Only after he lets them smell his leg hair, which turns blond in the sun, and the kids love to rub under water.

Posted by: Hat Tip at July 09, 2020 10:59 AM (4JGaO)

177 PowerlineBlog has all the video from the Geroge Floyd arrest.
It
looks like the police did follow procedures, so Kieth Ellison will have
a real hard time making the charges stick.Apparently, Floyd was still
alive when the paramedics arrived, but seems to have had a heart attack
thereafter.
Goes to show what bad can happen when you resist arrest.


Posted by: SMOD at July 09, 2020 10:41 AM (3aI0K)


Does that mean that the looters have to give everything back and pay for damages during the rioting now?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 09, 2020 10:59 AM (t+tI7)

178 Oh, whoa! Check out that ruling on Oklahoma. I'm smack dab in the middle.


How, Horde.

Posted by: creeper at July 09, 2020 11:00 AM (XxJt1)

179 The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the eastern half of Oklahoma can be considered Native American territory, a decision the state previously warned could create "civil, criminal and regulatory turmoil."

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That seems like kind of a big deal.

Posted by: josephistan at July 09, 2020 10:50 AM (Izzlo)

you'd think that the glorious media would mention it.

but then i expect so little from them i'm impressed they remember to breathe.

Posted by: SturmToddler at July 09, 2020 11:00 AM (8D42x)

180 Ever get the feeling sometimes that SCOTUS lives in
an ivory tower debating hall and never takes real-world considerations
and consequences into account?






Posted by: exdem13 at July 09, 2020 10:58 AM

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They are literally not supposed to do that.

They have one job and that's to decide if something is constitutional or not, that's it.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 09, 2020 11:00 AM (JUOKG)

181 Don Lemon: Jesus Was Not Perfect When He Was Here On Earth

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The wine was pretentious and overly complex.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 09, 2020 11:00 AM (wPVhA)

182 Biden says he would rescind exemption for Little Sisters of the Poor.
Posted by: Last Days of the Republic.

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Somehow, I don't think the MFM would be calling this "mean spirited." That only applies to Trump.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 09, 2020 11:00 AM (O+I8R)

183 148 Sooo... the Dems think that the IRS didn't bother to check the tax returns of a billionaire back when he filed them?

Posted by: RKae at July 09, 2020 10:56 AM

Not when he was donating to us!

Posted by: Dem Party Leaders at July 09, 2020 11:00 AM (Of/Uk)

184 Ever get the feeling sometimes that SCOTUS lives in an ivory tower
debating hall and never takes real-world considerations and consequences
into account?



You just described the entire American Legal System. A bunch of sheltered, idealistic, 1st year law students playing God with real lives.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 09, 2020 11:01 AM (3SIUH)

185 160 The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the eastern half of Oklahoma can be considered Native American territory, a decision the state previously warned could create "civil, criminal and regulatory turmoil." ...
Posted by: SMOD at July 09, 2020 10:44 AM (3aI0K)
++++++++++++
Huh. Tulsa and Muskogee are gonna present interesting problems, at a minimum...
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Oh, so the oil fields and refineries around Muskogee are in the allegedly forfeited territory? How terribly convenient for the Green Commies.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 09, 2020 11:01 AM (W+kMI)

186 Don Lemon: Jesus Was Not Perfect When He Was Here On Earth



Heathen shouldn't make pronouncements about subjects they literally know nothing about.

Posted by: Grump928© at July 09, 2020 11:01 AM (jbtTP)

187 People who remember history, remember the Creeks and other tribes fought on the side of the Confederacy- that is, for slavery and the dissolution of the Union.

F them.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 09, 2020 11:01 AM (VpIIl)

188 So does this Oklahoma ruling set up a precedent for the Sioux to claim that Mt. Rushmore is their territory?

Posted by: josephistan at July 09, 2020 11:02 AM (Izzlo)

189 Sound like they are getting the returns now.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 09, 2020 10:47 AM (WvQcX)



A few minutes ago, drudge dumpster fire had the sirens/flashing red lights and a "manhattan DA wins, Trump tax records to be subpoenaed" but they're backpedaling now.


The flashing lights went down - I guess somebody bothered to read the decision. Link changed too, from the breathless msnbc "wheels falling off the walls" to a random assortment of outlets trying to spin it.

Posted by: clutch cargo at July 09, 2020 11:02 AM (8B6Ng)

190 Ree Drummond of Pioneer woman fame is not going to be happy. Her husband's family is one of the largest land owners in Oklahoma, and in the nation, 17th in fact. They own 200,000 acres in both Oklahoma and Kansas. Have owned it since the early 1900s.

Now their title is void?

Posted by: Jen the original at July 09, 2020 11:02 AM (5ojuH)

191 188 So does this Oklahoma ruling set up a precedent for the Sioux to claim that Mt. Rushmore is their territory?
Posted by: josephistan at July 09, 2020 11:02 AM (Izzlo)

I was thinking the same thing.

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 09, 2020 11:02 AM (j0qnN)

192 I think I'll buy another gun this weekend.


What?


Oh, no special reason....

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic. at July 09, 2020 11:03 AM (KgzRF)

193 188. If it was given to them in a treaty that has not been officially revoked/cancelled, then yes.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at July 09, 2020 11:03 AM (svbBD)

194 73 My guess is, Obama admin already pulled every Trump return and the dems are itching to run with some stupid issue but they need a plausible reason for having the returns in the first place
Posted by: Hat Tip at July 09, 2020 10:43 AM (4JGaO)

That's an interesting thought. Considering everything else they did after they turned the Federal Government into a political instrument of the Democratic Party, that would make some sense.

Considering that if there was something dodgy in the returns Trump would have been indicted long ago, the fact that nothing has been leaked about them yet gives more credence to your theory.

Posted by: Not TJM at July 09, 2020 11:03 AM (6xA3t)

195 >>So does this Oklahoma ruling set up a precedent for the Sioux to claim that Mt. Rushmore is their territory?


You can Sioux anyonone for anything.

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2020 11:03 AM (IdFgk)

196 UPDATE: The U.S. Supreme Court ruled 7-2 on Thursday in Trump v. Mazars USA, LLP that the House of Representatives cannot demand that the president hand over his tax returns the opposite of the result it reached in Trump v. Vance, a separate decision on the same day, in which it said New York City prosecutors can obtain his tax returns for an investigation.

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 11:03 AM (1Dmt5)

197 IF YOU NEEDED TO PICK THE LOCAL DOG CATCHER WHO WOULD CONSULT WITH TO MAKE THE DECISION?


1. LADY GAGA
2. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP


Lady Gaga. Because Donald Trump doesn't pick up dogs.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at July 09, 2020 11:03 AM (SgjGX)

198 A part of me almost wants us to go back to pre-trump days when i could continue to wallow in blissful ignorance over just how utterly evil and corrupt the US government has become.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Being An Asshole at July 09, 2020 11:03 AM (+dsLj)

199 WTF? Are the Three Stooges running the team?
Posted by: rickb223



Huh?

Posted by: Kagan Sotomayor RBG at July 09, 2020 11:03 AM (4JGaO)

200 198 A part of me almost wants us to go back to pre-trump days when i could continue to wallow in blissful ignorance over just how utterly evil and corrupt the US government has become.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Being An Asshole at July 09, 2020 11:03 AM (+dsLj)

=========

"Vote for me!"
-Joe Biden

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 11:04 AM (LvTSG)

201 Bring him on, Carville.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 09, 2020 10:58 AM (O+I8R)


Serpenthead is a lot of things but smart isn't one of them. Neither is his ex GOPe wife who wears makeup like Bozo the clown.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 09, 2020 11:04 AM (y7DUB)

202 So does this Oklahoma ruling set up a precedent for the Sioux to claim that Mt. Rushmore is their territory?

Can't wait for them to hand over Atlanta to the Cherokee.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 09, 2020 11:04 AM (3SIUH)

203 The indian across my back fence is gonna be tickled pink. Not that he paid much attention to the white man's law to begin with...

Nice to know they won't toss property owning Caucasians. Gawd, I love Oklahoma!

Posted by: creeper at July 09, 2020 11:04 AM (XxJt1)

204 You just described the entire American Legal System. A bunch of sheltered, idealistic, 1st year law students playing God with real lives.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 09, 2020 11:01 AM (3SIUH)


And what about us? The young LAs write the laws while we mug for the cameras.

Posted by: Congress at July 09, 2020 11:04 AM (ONvIw)

205 Don Lemon: Jesus Was Not Perfect When He Was Here On Earth

Heathen shouldn't make pronouncements about subjects they literally know nothing about.
Posted by: Grump928

Don should just stick to rocket surgery.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 09, 2020 11:04 AM (+y/Ru)

206 144 >>Biden says he would rescind exemption for Little Sisters of the Poor.


Funny how they ignore the Court when it is convenient.
______________

Unfortunately, the SCOTUS only said that the administration has the right to issue a waiver that exempts the nuns.

What one administration grants by waiver, another administration can take away by revoking waiver.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 09, 2020 11:04 AM (k4dH2)

207 Tell that to the ranchers that own thousands of acres of eastern Oklahoma.
So is Eastern Oklahoma part of the state of Oklahoma or a territory ceded to Native Americans?



Gorsuch must be taking the same mushrooms Roberts is.

Posted by: Jen the original


This is bullshit. How long before I get thrown off my property here in North Alabama because of the Trail of Tears and white privilege?

Posted by: BifBewalski - Sinis Est Culus at July 09, 2020 11:04 AM (VcFUs)

208 A part of me almost wants us to go back to pre-trump days when i could continue to wallow in blissful ignorance over just how utterly evil and corrupt the US government has become.

--

For me, I'd have to go back to pre-Obama to reach into blissful ignorance.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 09, 2020 11:05 AM (O+I8R)

209 IF YOU NEEDED TO PICK THE LOCAL DOG CATCHER WHO WOULD CONSULT WITH TO MAKE THE DECISION?


1. LADY GAGA
2. PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP

Lady Gaga. Because Donald Trump doesn't pick up dogs.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile



Golf clap.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 11:05 AM (QFqpA)

210 My guess is, Obama admin already pulled every Trump return and the dems
are itching to run with some stupid issue but they need a plausible
reason for having the returns in the first place




Posted by: Hat Tip at July 09, 2020 10:43 AM

---

As we discussed way back, obama did that the minute Trump announced he was running. And I would bet he did that to every other republican running too.


And if his hand picked team had found anything out of place they would have launched with it in late October 2016.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 09, 2020 11:05 AM (JUOKG)

211 This issue is going to be litigated way into next year-- they won't get Trump's returns before the election.


I am sure they already have them. What they can't do is publish them now.

Posted by: Grump928© at July 09, 2020 11:05 AM (jbtTP)

212 Governor Murphy better find a fucking Lenni Lenape and give them his house.

Posted by: CN at July 09, 2020 11:06 AM (ONvIw)

213 >>What one administration grants by waiver, another administration can take away by revoking waiver.


DACA much?

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2020 11:06 AM (IdFgk)

214 For me, I'd have to go back to pre-Obama to reach into blissful ignorance.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 09, 2020 11:05 AM (O+I8R)

Yep, me too.

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 09, 2020 11:06 AM (j0qnN)

215 So does this Oklahoma ruling set up a precedent for the Sioux to claim that Mt. Rushmore is their territory?


You can Sioux anyonone for anything.
Posted by: garrett



But then you're up a Creek without a paddle.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 11:06 AM (QFqpA)

216 24
So how long before Trump's entire tax return is published in the NYT''s ?
With zero repercussions because, you know, freedom of the press.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 09, 2020 10:37 AM (5ojuH)

__________


I'm surprised they haven't already just made it up out of whole cloth like they do with virtually everything else they publish.


I mean, it's not like they haven't been busted for lying thousands of times before and suffer any further consequences ... and yet somehow manage to convince a portion of the populace that they have integrity and credibility.

Posted by: ShainS at July 09, 2020 11:07 AM (WqPYg)

217 211. I am with you. Vance and the NY AG and the House all have them already. But leaking them without being able to "officially" have them is bound to bring trouble.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at July 09, 2020 11:07 AM (svbBD)

218 You know what's really going to be funny? When Trump has to hand over his returns (and he will eventually have to), they will find absolutely nothing wrong with them.

IMHO, this is a long range troll by Donnie Two Scoops.

Posted by: Sooner - White Blue-eyed Debil at July 09, 2020 11:07 AM (Fs5vw)

219 You can Sioux anyonone for anything.




But then you're up a Creek without a paddle.


No need to Crow about it.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 09, 2020 11:07 AM (3SIUH)

220 213 >>What one administration grants by waiver, another administration can take away by revoking waiver.


DACA much?
Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2020 11:06 AM (IdFgk)

No shit, right?

Posted by: Jordan61 at July 09, 2020 11:07 AM (j0qnN)

221 Off, Not TJM sock!

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 09, 2020 11:07 AM (6xA3t)

222 Jane, is it an iPhone? Someone said yesterday that Apple and Google canceled copy/paste.

The text above was copy/pasted on an iPhone 6 with the latest iOS updates.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at July 09, 2020 11:08 AM (qc+VF)

223 180 Ever get the feeling sometimes that SCOTUS lives in
an ivory tower debating hall and never takes real-world considerations
and consequences into account?






Posted by: exdem13 at July 09, 2020 10:58 AM

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They are literally not supposed to do that.

They have one job and that's to decide if something is constitutional or not, that's it.
===
Ah, so it is merely "Constitutional" to say it's fine to turn Oklahoma on its ear legislatively because of debate on a demographic shift that occurred before it became a state. Right.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 09, 2020 11:08 AM (W+kMI)

224 It looks like they've created a situation where, if someone is arrested for a crime, there will have to be an examination of their citizenship and ancestry papers before anyone can decide what laws apply to them.

and that's insane.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 09, 2020 10:59 AM (Kpl3J)

thanks Tom for explaining this. The tribal exemptions , because of treaties, is stupid, IMO, in this day and age. If you want to be part of the USA, then you have the same rights and responsibilities that the rest of us do.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 09, 2020 11:08 AM (5ojuH)

225 THIS!

111 Trump should sign an executive order publicly releasing the tax returns of every member of Congress.

Posted by: Eli Cash at July 09, 2020 11:08 AM (67sg6)

226 People who remember history, remember the Creeks and other tribes fought on the side of the Confederacy- that is, for slavery and the dissolution of the Union.

-

Yeah, it's neat to watch people pretend Indians were a single nonviolent group who rejected slavery and didn't claim territories using war and invasions.

Posted by: No one at July 09, 2020 11:09 AM (Vd6qv)

227 This is bullshit. How long before I get thrown off my property here in North Alabama because of the Trail of Tears and white privilege?
Posted by: BifBewalski - Sinis Est Culus at July 09, 2020 11:04 AM (VcFUs)

You won't be thrown off the property, they're leaving ownership alone. But upon reflection, what's happening is even worse; they've sanctioned a legal climate where we will have different laws applying to different racial and ethnic groups. All you have to do is to look at the daily news to see that we're moving that way already.

next step - if Muzzies want to say they will only live under Sh'aria, Supreme Court says fine, they will only answer to Sh'aria. Everybody gets to pick and choose what set of laws they want to recognize, and which they don't.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 09, 2020 11:09 AM (Kpl3J)

228
The flashing lights went down - I guess somebody bothered to read the decision. Link changed too, from the breathless msnbc "wheels falling off the walls" to a random assortment of outlets trying to spin it.
Posted by: clutch cargo at July 09, 2020 11:02 AM (8B6Ng

Gotcha. Breitbart did the same in a rush to FIRST!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 09, 2020 11:09 AM (WvQcX)

229
DACA much?
Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2020 11:06 AM (IdFgk)

--------

That rule only applies to Trump.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 09, 2020 11:09 AM (wPVhA)

230 I seem to remember reading this same thing last year.



#twoweeks

Posted by: blaster at July 09, 2020 10:58 AM (Ieq1i)

===============
In all fairness to John Solomon, the link was to Washington Examiner, and not directly to Solomon's site ( Justthenews.com). If you look there you see no such report.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at July 09, 2020 11:09 AM (NVYyb)

231 Jane, is it an iPhone? Someone said yesterday that Apple and Google canceled copy/paste.

The text above was copy/pasted on an iPhone 6 with the latest iOS updates.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg



Just did on an un-updated Covid Tracker free iPhone 6S.
So I have no idea.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 11:09 AM (QFqpA)

232 225 THIS!

111 Trump should sign an executive order publicly releasing the tax returns of every member of Congress.
Posted by: Eli Cash at July 09, 2020 11:08 AM (67sg6)

Double THIS!!

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 09, 2020 11:10 AM (6xA3t)

233
next step - if Muzzies want to say they will only live under Sh'aria, Supreme Court says fine, they will only answer to Sh'aria. Everybody gets to pick and choose what set of laws they want to recognize, and which they don't.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 09, 2020 11:09 AM (Kpl3J

Fine. Fuck em. They are not going to like my laws.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 09, 2020 11:10 AM (WvQcX)

234 211. I am with you. Vance and the NY AG and the House all have them already. But leaking them without being able to "officially" have them is bound to bring trouble.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at July 09, 2020 11:07 AM (svbBD)


Riiight. Like people pay a price for leaking things.

They have them. OF COURSE THEY HAVE THEM. The government has your tax returns.

If they had something they would leak them. That they don't leak them means they have nothing.





Posted by: blaster at July 09, 2020 11:10 AM (Ieq1i)

235 Don LeMon is a white supremacist!

https://bit.ly/2O8Kotz

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 09, 2020 11:10 AM (+y/Ru)

236 next step - if Muzzies want to say they will only live under Sh'aria, Supreme Court says fine, they will only answer to Sh'aria. Everybody gets to pick and choose what set of laws they want to recognize, and which they don't.
Posted by: Tom Servo


Hammurabi.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 11:10 AM (QFqpA)

237 36
Ted Cruz suggests two conditions Biden may impose for a debate.



Ted Cruz@tedcruz

Biden's two conditions: (1) the debate must occur in his basement,
and (2) it cannot be televised or broadcast to anyone in America.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 09, 2020 10:38 AM (+y/Ru)

__________


So, only to his Chinese masters and third world base then?

Posted by: ShainS at July 09, 2020 11:10 AM (WqPYg)

238
There's a Gospel according to Don Lemon now?

What an age of miracles and wonders is upon us!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 09, 2020 11:10 AM (pNxlR)

239 stop soiling your underoos now

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 11:11 AM (1Dmt5)

240 Civil war looms. How ''bout more witty snarks from Cruz.
FUBUR.

Posted by: azalea city at July 09, 2020 11:11 AM (WX+x0)

241 235. But I consider that more a function of Paul Ryan being a complete non-entity and empty suit, and likely would have been defeated in any debate by a third grader.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at July 09, 2020 11:11 AM (svbBD)

242 Title insurers must be panicking.

All those properties in Eastern Oklahoma now have faulty titles. Mortgage holders have no collateral. Some wild shit.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at July 09, 2020 11:11 AM (NVYyb)

243
You just described the entire American Legal System. A bunch of sheltered, idealistic, 1st year law students playing God with real lives.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 09, 2020 11:01 AM (3SIUH)

-----

Right? Look at, for instance, Ken White or Patrick Frey and their endless legal tweets. At the baseless, inane, poorly considered word-vomit they think passes as sound legal reasoning.

And then remember: IT IS.

These are both practicing attorneys. One of them is a prosecutor, for the love of G-d.

Courts are just the place where these people, these utter mediocrities who wouldn't stand out in a crowd of one, determine the course of our lives by twisting their ill-considered and self-serving opinions into standing law.

It's the place where perception (theirs only, of course) becomes reality.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2020 11:11 AM (oJN+m)

244 >>What one administration grants by waiver, another administration can take away by revoking waiver.
-

DACA much?

-

While Obamacare will be back up and fully in place by February after a Democrat president takes office.

Posted by: No one at July 09, 2020 11:11 AM (Vd6qv)

245 207 Tell that to the ranchers that own thousands of acres of eastern Oklahoma.
So is Eastern Oklahoma part of the state of Oklahoma or a territory ceded to Native Americans?



Gorsuch must be taking the same mushrooms Roberts is.

Posted by: Jen the original


This is bullshit. How long before I get thrown off my property here in North Alabama because of the Trail of Tears and white privilege?
Posted by: BifBewalski - Sinis Est Culus at July 09, 2020 11:04 AM (VcFUs)


You might as well get ready now. It's coming. Just ask the whites in South Africa.

Posted by: Sooner - White Blue-eyed Debil at July 09, 2020 11:11 AM (Fs5vw)

246 213 >>What one administration grants by waiver, another administration can take away by revoking waiver.


DACA much?
___________________

Yeah, except the SCOTUS said in that case that the Trump administration had the right to revoke DACA, but that it had to do it in a manner that complies with the requirements of the APA (Administrative Procedures Act), and because they didn't do that correctly, DACA still remains in force for now.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 09, 2020 11:11 AM (k4dH2)

247 Do Trump's recent tweets sound like indictments are imminent?


Spoiler: nope

He's angry and frustrated.

Posted by: Zero Prosecutions Zero Raids at July 09, 2020 11:12 AM (KgzRF)

248 >>There's a Gospel according to Don Lemon now?


Turns out there were no scales on his eyes...it was just crusty semen.

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2020 11:12 AM (IdFgk)

249 Biden says....


*********

Uproarious laughter ensues.

Posted by: Kagan Sotomayor RBG at July 09, 2020 11:12 AM (9ObsK)

250 Gotcha. Breitbart did the same in a rush to FIRST!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 09, 2020 11:09 AM (WvQcX)


Can we stop pretending that those clickbait shitholes aren't really on "our side"?

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 09, 2020 11:12 AM (y7DUB)

251
Posted by: HillaryClinton at July 09, 2020 11:10 AM (AJLBJ)


Don't look now, but The Donald is behind you and glowering at you ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 09, 2020 11:12 AM (pNxlR)

252 Biden destroyed Paul Ryan in their VP debate.



He certainly won the PR battle afterwards, but that was a given really.

Posted by: Grump928© at July 09, 2020 11:12 AM (jbtTP)

253 Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at July 09, 2020 11:09 AM (NVYyb)
**********
UMMMMM it was taken from Solomon;s appearence on Lou Dobbs show

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 11:12 AM (1Dmt5)

254 Hey remember when Madcow got a hold of a page of Trump's tax returns that proved Trump paid taxes?

Posted by: Two Weeks From Being An Asshole at July 09, 2020 11:12 AM (+dsLj)

255 The only good thing, is that we are running out of time on the "rule of law" concept, and all of these silly precedents wont matter much when we enter the strongman phase.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at July 09, 2020 11:13 AM (svbBD)

256 >>Biden destroyed Paul Ryan in their VP debate.


And this was readily apparent to ANYONE who didn't watch.

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2020 11:13 AM (PpKsN)

257 255 Hey remember when Madcow got a hold of a page of Trump's tax returns that proved Trump paid taxes?
Posted by: Two Weeks From Being An Asshole at July 09, 2020 11:12 AM (+dsLj)

===========

That he paid the legal rate?

It ended Trump's presidency, if I remember correctly.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 11:14 AM (LvTSG)

258 Biden didn't destroy Paul Ryan as much as Paul Ryan took a dive since he's a Dem.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 09, 2020 11:14 AM (WvQcX)

259 NY Slimes - At Indian Road Cafe in upper Manhattan, a Black Lives Matter sign hangs
in a front window. Local writers, artists, musicians and political
activists are regulars. And for years, two drag queens have hosted a
monthly charity bingo tournament there.



But then the cafe's owner, Thomas Bosco, said in an MSNBC interview
in late spring that he voted for President Donald Trump in 2016 and was
likely to do so again.




The backlash was swift, as you might expect.




Neighbors railed in the comments on various neighborhood Facebook
groups, posting hundreds of angry messages aimed at the cafe - and one
another. Some people called for a boycott.




"The backlash was swift, as you might expect." Yes comrades, no one is allowed to think or vote out of lockstep with the leftist mobs. BTW the owner is a big lefty but says he's going to vote for Trump so now he's an enemy of the Soviets




Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 09, 2020 11:14 AM (t+tI7)

260 >>The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the eastern half of Oklahoma can be considered Native American territory

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Buy stock in salt.

Posted by: No one at July 09, 2020 11:14 AM (Vd6qv)

261 >>Biden destroyed Paul Ryan in their VP debate.


And this was readily apparent to ANYONE who didn't watch.
Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2020 11:13 AM (PpKsN)




Perfect.

Posted by: Grump928© at July 09, 2020 11:14 AM (jbtTP)

262 187 People who remember history, remember the Creeks and other tribes fought on the side of the Confederacy- that is, for slavery and the dissolution of the Union.

F them.
=========
Heh, there's a Privilege Problem to toss at the SJW loons. The Indian Territory (90% Native American at least in 1861) joined the CSA and was represented by a star on the "KKK flag". The displaced Civilized Tribes joined the Confederacy to get back at the USA, and to keep the slaves which some of them owned.

Posted by: exdem13 at July 09, 2020 11:15 AM (W+kMI)

263 255 Hey remember when Madcow got a hold of a page of Trump's tax returns that proved Trump paid taxes?
Posted by: Two Weeks From Being An Asshole at July 09, 2020 11:12 AM (+dsLj)

And overpaid, IIRC

Posted by: josephistan at July 09, 2020 11:15 AM (Izzlo)

264 Title insurers must be panicking.

All those properties in Eastern Oklahoma now have faulty titles. Mortgage holders have no collateral. Some wild shit.
Posted by: Huck Follywood


Stop paying mortgages.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 11:16 AM (QFqpA)

265 226 People who remember history, remember the Creeks and other tribes fought on the side of the Confederacy- that is, for slavery and the dissolution of the Union.
-
Yeah, it's neat to watch people pretend Indians were a single nonviolent group who rejected slavery and didn't claim territories using war and invasions.
Posted by: No one at July 09, 2020 11:09 AM (Vd6qv)

I'm sympathetic to the Cherokee who fought with the Confederacy, I think the only major battle they participated in was Pea Ridge, in Arkansas. The Confederacy got them in by promising "Oh, if you support us we'll guarantee all your land forever, we won't take it like those dirty Yankee's will!!" And the Cherokee believed them - HA!

Their battlefield performance was interesting - they were quite courageous and made effective fighting units at the outset of battle. But Van Dorn, the southern General in overall command, reported that after an initial success, the Cherokee units lost all discipline and broke up and started looting guns and other goods off the dead and wounded on the battlefield. Thus they were devastated by a sudden counter attack which cut through them and caused many casualties.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 09, 2020 11:16 AM (Kpl3J)

266 "The backlash was swift, as you might expect."

He must have thought the left was fair minded and open to debate. Wow was he wrong!

Posted by: Chris M at July 09, 2020 11:16 AM (eAZVt)

267 Biden destroyed Paul Ryan in their VP debate. 

...


He's totally the same as he was 8 years ago.

Posted by: LOL at July 09, 2020 11:16 AM (KgzRF)

268
255 Hey remember when Madcow got a hold of a page of Trump's tax returns that proved Trump paid taxes?
Posted by: Two Weeks From Being An Asshole at July 09, 2020 11:12 AM (+dsLj)


Oh, how she was strutting and preening over her bad se'f for getting that "scoop"!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 09, 2020 11:16 AM (pNxlR)

269 Don LeMon is a white supremacist!



https://bit.ly/2O8Kotz

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 09, 2020 11:10 AM (+y/Ru)

===============
Video of the day!

I missed this: thanks for the link.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at July 09, 2020 11:16 AM (NVYyb)

270 Hey remember when Madcow got a hold of a page of Trump's tax returns that proved Trump paid taxes?
Posted by: Two Weeks From Being An Asshole

---

Remember her "Get ready for this!" smirk, and the countdown clock to the release?

Best "Al Capone's vault" moment since Al Capone's vault.

Posted by: RKae at July 09, 2020 11:16 AM (aE67o)

271 261 >>The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the eastern half of Oklahoma can be considered Native American territory

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Buy stock in salt.

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Ah, you mean that big salt desert which has been mined for salt since the eighteen-teens? Yeah, salt is possibly about to become expensive again...

Posted by: exdem13 at July 09, 2020 11:17 AM (W+kMI)

272 89
lol. Gorsuch just declared half the state of Oklahoma belongs to the Creek.



This should work out well.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 09, 2020 10:46 AM (VpIIl)

_________


Jeebus. It's back-stabbing betrayals for us (with the exception of DJT) all the way down ...

Posted by: ShainS at July 09, 2020 11:17 AM (WqPYg)

273 the southern General in overall command, reported that after an initial success, the Cherokee units lost all discipline and broke up and started looting guns and other goods off the dead and wounded on the battlefield. Thus they were devastated by a sudden counter attack which cut through them and caused many casualties.

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It's so weird how they lost Oklahoma to the white devil.

Posted by: No one at July 09, 2020 11:17 AM (Vd6qv)

274 >>The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the eastern half of Oklahoma can be considered Native American territory

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Buy stock in salt.
Posted by: No one

Buffalo futures.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 09, 2020 11:17 AM (+y/Ru)

275 DOJ activity indicates John Durham preparing indictments, John Solomon reports
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 10:54 AM (1Dmt5

Good. I am revolted at hearing of a Durham "report".

Posted by: FloridaMan at July 09, 2020 11:17 AM (r28kI)

276 Gotcha. Breitbart did the same in a rush to FIRST!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 09, 2020 11:09 AM (WvQcX)

Can we stop pretending that those clickbait shitholes aren't really on "our side"?
Posted by: Captain Hate


Never thought Breitbart was after Andrew died.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 11:17 AM (QFqpA)

277 Geronimo!

Posted by: Chief Justice the Honorable John Roberts at July 09, 2020 11:18 AM (+y/Ru)

278 All I know is witch doctors have quite the scam going on. Patient comes in, witch doctor drops acid and heals the guy.

Posted by: I'm out of the contest! at July 09, 2020 11:18 AM (buTO7)

279 The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the eastern half of Oklahoma can be considered Native American territory

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Buy stock in salt.
Posted by: No one

Buffalo futures.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks


Crab dip.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 11:18 AM (QFqpA)

280 182 Biden says he would rescind exemption for Little Sisters of the Poor.
Posted by: Last Days of the Republic.
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Somehow, I don't think the MFM would be calling this "mean spirited." That only applies to Trump.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 09, 2020 11:00 AM

Maybe the Supreme Court would block him, like it did Trump reversing DACA, as lacking legal justification?

Posted by: Clueless Legal Scholar at July 09, 2020 11:18 AM (Of/Uk)

281 >>"The backlash was swift, as you might expect." Yes comrades, no one is allowed to think or vote out of lockstep with the leftist mobs. BTW the owner is a big lefty but says he's going to vote for Trump so now he's an enemy of the Soviets




But we should TOTALLY trust the polls!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2020 11:18 AM (bDqIh)

282 This is not about Trump's taxes.

This is about finding out who he does business with, so they can release that information, and create a hit list.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 09, 2020 11:18 AM (NgKpN)

283 Wheels or two story buildings won't be allowed in that part of Oklahoma, right?

Posted by: No one at July 09, 2020 11:19 AM (Vd6qv)

284
The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the eastern half of Oklahoma can be considered Native American territory


Will Liz Warren return to the old stomping grounds in order to take up her rightful role as Termagant of the Cherokee People?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 09, 2020 11:19 AM (pNxlR)

285 >>>@266 USA Today has an oped today that openly calls for crashing the economy
to hurt Trump. I mean we know that is what the left has always wanted.
But now it is official Dem policy.
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When you post an inflamed comment can you link what you're talking about? It's not that I won't take your word for, but I would like to draww my own conclusions.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at July 09, 2020 11:19 AM (NVYyb)

286 I think today's rulings are fine, a s long as they extend this bullshit past the election

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 09, 2020 11:19 AM (tsZQ+)

287 BREAKING: Supreme Court hands Trump win, blocks Congress from getting his tax returns for now

The ruling came on the final day of the high court's 2019-2020 term

The Supreme Court on Thursday said President Trump is not immune from New York's subpoena for his tax returns, but that a prosecutor will not get documents now.

The decision was the first of two Thursday by the high court on the matter. The case appears headed back to a lower court, which appears to mean the years-long matter will not be resolved before the November elections.

In the second decision, the high court blocked House Democrats' requests to get Trump's tax records.

In Trump v. Vance, the majority opined that a subpoena to a sitting president does not have to meet a heightened standard. The court ruled 7-2, with the majority opinion written by Chief Justice John Roberts. Conservative justices Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch concurred with the majority, while Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas dissented.

In the second ruling, Trump v. Mazars USA, LLP, the court avoided a ruling, saying instead that lower courts had not taken full account of "all the possible separation of powers concerns." The court's decision effectively blocks House Democrats from accessing Trump's financial records for the time being.

Developing

The decision stems from Trump's refusal since the 2016 election cycle to release his tax returns and other financial records.

The broad question before the high court was whether Trump could block subpoenas sent to his accountants and bankers from congressional House committees and New York prosecutors.

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 11:19 AM (1Dmt5)

288 188. If it was given to them in a treaty that has not been officially revoked/cancelled, then yes.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at July 09, 2020 11:03 AM (svbBD)

The Black Hills, Mount Rushmore thing has been litigated to the Supreme Court and was decided in 1980. The court decided that the Fort Laramie treaty of 1868 with the affected tribes had been violated when the US gov allowed settlers, gold rushers, miners etc. to overrun the area and then forcibly moved the Indian nations off their land and onto different land that was not in the original treaty.

To remedy this, the court figured up what the land was worth in 1868, and then added interest for the time between 1868 and 1980 and ordered the US govt. to pay these tribes this money for the taking of the land unlawfully.

That escrow account with the money in it is untouched today, because the Lakota radical rabble rousers refuse to accept it. Instead they want the land returned to them.

The millions and millions of dollars in that account could go a long way to improve life on the reservations, but instead, these so called leaders prefer to let their people lanquish in poverty and unemployment. Unemployment on reservations is often around 80%.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 09, 2020 11:19 AM (5ojuH)

289 Hah EFF #twoweeks!

"My sources tell me there's a lot of activity. I'm seeing, personally, activity behind the scenes of the Justice Department," Solomon said on Tuesday, adding that Durham's team "is trying to bring those first indictments, and I would look for a time around Labor Day to see the first sort of action by the Justice Department."

Posted by: blaster at July 09, 2020 11:19 AM (Ieq1i)

290 For what it is worth I have a lot of patients who are fuckin fed up with the dems

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 09, 2020 11:20 AM (tsZQ+)

291 >>The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the eastern half of Oklahoma can be considered Native American territory


We can finally start re-introducing the plains crabs!

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at July 09, 2020 11:20 AM (PpKsN)

292
But only after they let him smell their hair.
Posted by: WisRich at July 09, 2020 10:55 AM (G0vdT)

That will be difficult, as the Little Sisters wear traditional habits. No visible hair above the eyebrows.

Posted by: Fox2! at July 09, 2020 11:20 AM (qyH+l)

293 Texas GOP says they have a back up plan, 12%.

Posted by: azalea city at July 09, 2020 11:20 AM (WX+x0)

294
I wonder if Gorsuch still has any land in Colorado?

Maybe the the Cheyenne and Arapahoe should sue his ass over Sand Creek or some shit.

See what he thinks then.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2020 11:20 AM (oJN+m)

295 289. Well, there ya go! I did not know all that. So, this ruling would not apply to the Black Hills issues.

So long as we have functioning laws anyway.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at July 09, 2020 11:21 AM (svbBD)

296 Geronimo!
Posted by: Chief Justice the Honorable John Roberts

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So, if Geronimo enlisted into the 101st Airborne, would he shout "MEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!" after he jumps out the door?

Posted by: Tonypete at July 09, 2020 11:21 AM (Rvt88)

297 Never thought Breitbart was after Andrew died.

************

Breitbart.com constantly gets shit wrong writing in the most alarmist fashion possible, completely unbalanced and unhinged in news reporting. They are not on our side.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Being An Asshole at July 09, 2020 11:21 AM (+dsLj)

298 >>That escrow account with the money in it is untouched today, because the Lakota radical rabble rousers refuse to accept it. Instead they want the land returned to them.


Sad Trombone

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2020 11:22 AM (PpKsN)

299


Here's my colonosocopy pics. How does my ass look?

Posted by: POTUS at July 09, 2020 11:22 AM (d6DSt)

300 266
USA Today has an oped today that openly calls for crashing the economy
to hurt Trump. I mean we know that is what the left has always wanted.
But now it is official Dem policy.

Posted by: Poster X at July 09, 2020 11:16 AM (UY17n)

_________


They Progda Enemedia started openly calling for any and all tactics to destroy the county (no matter the price, including in human life lost) to get rid of Trump the day after his election.

Posted by: ShainS at July 09, 2020 11:22 AM (WqPYg)

301 Maybe the Supreme Court would block him, like it did Trump reversing DACA, as lacking legal justification?
_____________

That's not exactly what the majority said in the DACA case. They conceded that Trump had the right to end DACA, they just said that he had not done it the right way (because his DHS had not complied with all the APA requirements).

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 09, 2020 11:22 AM (k4dH2)

302 300 >>That escrow account with the money in it is untouched today, because the Lakota radical rabble rousers refuse to accept it. Instead they want the land returned to them.


Sad Trombone
Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2020 11:22 AM (PpKsN)

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I am the representative of the Lakota tribe, and I need the bank account information for, uh, research purposes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 11:22 AM (LvTSG)

303 Brieitbart is on out side but they are playing the first game instead of the Correct game.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 09, 2020 11:22 AM (WvQcX)

304 My word as a Biden, I just now got the joke in Cat Ass Trophy's nic.

Dang I'm slow.

Posted by: TexasDan at July 09, 2020 11:22 AM (2HIdp)

305 The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the eastern half of Oklahoma can be considered Native American territory


We can finally start re-introducing the plains crabs!
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren


You ever dicked around an Oklahoma truck stop?
They're already there.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 11:23 AM (QFqpA)

306 >>This is not about Trump's taxes.

This is about finding out who he does business with, so they can release that information, and create a hit list.
- - - -

THIS


It's about DESTROYING his business and those with whom he does business.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2020 11:23 AM (bDqIh)

307 I've been watching the Ryan George channel too. I think the 'Pitch Meetings' are better but there's some good stuff in there too.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 11:23 AM (ifmtJ)

308 I am thinking I am going to start identifying as a Lakota Indian.

Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2020 11:23 AM (PpKsN)

309 310 I've been watching the Ryan George channel too. I think the 'Pitch Meetings' are better but there's some good stuff in there too.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 11:23 AM (ifmtJ)
=========

"Touch me? Are you some kind of pervert?"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 11:23 AM (LvTSG)

310 >>Good. I am revolted at hearing of a Durham "report".

My favorite was watching both Laura Ingraham and Brett Baier interview Barr in separate interview and both of them asked Barr when Durham would be producing his report.

Barr explained to both of them that while Durham might produce a report at some point his immediate focus was to investigate potential criminal activity and if found and a case can be built to bring charges.

Both of them followed up by asking more questions about the Durham report.

Our betters.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2020 11:24 AM (ZLI7S)

311 Good God. CLE video webinar. So far it's all a bunch of PC bullshit and circle-jerking. I fucking hate these people. Jesus Christ, shut the fuck up with the social justice wankery and provide something useful. Fuckers.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 09, 2020 11:24 AM (NWiLs)

312 292
>>The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the eastern half of Oklahoma can be considered Native American territory





We can finally start re-introducing the plains crabs!

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at July 09, 2020 11:20 AM (PpKsN)

_________


And the buffalo if the white man hadn't killed them all off in the 19th century.

Posted by: ShainS at July 09, 2020 11:24 AM (WqPYg)

313 Trump should sign an executive order publicly releasing the tax returns of every member of Congress.


Double THIS!!



They are best read in the original Mandarin.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 09, 2020 11:24 AM (3SIUH)

314 This criminal rascal Trump is totes unlike the sainted Obama, and there is no comparison between tax records which have been scrutinized by accountants at the IRS and NY Bureau of Revenue and Extortion with nary a criminal referral FOR MERE DECADES, and Obama's birth certificate, passport status, transcripts, college entrance paperwork, and grades which have never been seen by mere mortal men!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar -YOU are all in this together!- at July 09, 2020 11:24 AM (eTZoJ)

315 310 I've been watching the Ryan George channel too. I think the 'Pitch Meetings' are better but there's some good stuff in there too.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 11:23 AM (ifmtJ)

I don't know and I wish you'd get right off my back about it!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 09, 2020 11:25 AM (NWiLs)

316 The millions and millions of dollars in that account could go a long way to improve life on the reservations, but instead, these so called leaders prefer to let their people lanquish in poverty and unemployment.

********************

What is it about Native American culture that they refuse to gird up their loins and go to work? Is the idea of working hard and gaining wealth to the extent that you could actually fucking BUY back the land you claim was stolen too much of an offensive white man concept to them?

Posted by: Two Weeks From Being An Asshole at July 09, 2020 11:26 AM (+dsLj)

317 314
Good God. CLE video webinar. So far it's all a bunch of PC bullshit and
circle-jerking. I fucking hate these people. Jesus Christ, shut the fuck
up with the social justice wankery and provide something useful.
Fuckers.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 09, 2020 11:24 AM (NWiLs)

__________


Remote-Control Drones with Robot Arms and Cameras. Navigable GPS Addresses. Tire Irons.
Some assembly required ...

Posted by: ShainS at July 09, 2020 11:26 AM (WqPYg)

318 318 310 I've been watching the Ryan George channel too. I think the 'Pitch Meetings' are better but there's some good stuff in there too.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 11:23 AM (ifmtJ)

I don't know and I wish you'd get right off my back about it!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 09, 2020 11:25 AM (NWiLs)

Well all right then.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 11:27 AM (ifmtJ)

319
"My sources tell me there's a lot of activity. I'm seeing, personally, activity behind the scenes of the Justice Department," Solomon said on Tuesday, adding that Durham's team "is trying to bring those first indictments, and I would look for a time around Labor Day to see the first sort of action by the Justice Department."
.




Which just means the Dems ramp up the fraud machine even further, get Trump out, and Biden drops the charges.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 09, 2020 11:27 AM (oVJmc)

320 I'm gonna get Dolley to get prepared to start the Youtube channel this weekend, hell or high water.

She insists she wants to be involved, but she's slow walking her involvement. I even have the perfect picture in mind for our banner (me shoving popcorn in my mouth with pure joy on my face and her with a bored expression as she rests her head on her fist, side-eyeing me).

I know what three shows I want to do (a discussion with her about a specific movie, a video essay version of my posts for the HQ, and a running series on film history), and I have all the equipment.

I might as well just start making content and let her catch up.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 11:27 AM (LvTSG)

321 205 Don Lemon: Jesus Was Not Perfect When He Was Here On Earth

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I look forward to seeing him say that to His face.

Posted by: A Citizen at July 09, 2020 11:28 AM (MkuC5)

322 What is it about Native American culture that they refuse to gird up their loins and go to work? Is the idea of working hard and gaining wealth to the extent that you could actually fucking BUY back the land you claim was stolen too much of an offensive white man concept to them?
Posted by: Two Weeks From Being An Asshole
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To be fair the women and slaves did all the work aside from the actual hunting. The women and slaves were along to dress and prepare the actual kills.

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue! at July 09, 2020 11:28 AM (UUBmN)

323 312 310 I've been watching the Ryan George channel too. I think the 'Pitch Meetings' are better but there's some good stuff in there too.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 11:23 AM (ifmtJ)
=========

"Touch me? Are you some kind of pervert?"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 11:23 AM (LvTSG)

Kids are going to love it

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 11:28 AM (ifmtJ)

324 Congress can't have his tax returns. The grand jury can.

Posted by: cjhmhch at July 09, 2020 11:28 AM (eSgwh)

325 Remote-Control Drones with Robot Arms and Cameras. Navigable GPS Addresses. Tire Irons.
Some assembly required ...
Posted by: ShainS at July 09, 2020 11:26 AM (WqPYg)

If only. It's really pissing me off.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 09, 2020 11:28 AM (NWiLs)

326 What is it about Native American culture that they
refuse to gird up their loins and go to work? Is the idea of working
hard and gaining wealth to the extent that you could actually fucking
BUY back the land you claim was stolen too much of an offensive white
man concept to them?

Posted by: Two Weeks From Being An Asshole at July 09, 2020 11:26 AM (+dsLj)

_________


You get more of what you subsidize (victimhood) and less of what you tax (self-reliance and productivity).

Posted by: ShainS at July 09, 2020 11:28 AM (WqPYg)

327 The millions and millions of dollars in that account could go a long way to improve life on the reservations, but instead, these so called leaders prefer to let their people lanquish in poverty and unemployment.

-

Ha.

I'll see your all of that and raise you individuals who can go to their choice of colleges around the nation for free on a C average out of high school but can't be bothered.

Posted by: No one at July 09, 2020 11:28 AM (Vd6qv)

328 I'm gonna get Dolley to get prepared to start the Youtube channel this weekend, hell or high water.

She insists she wants to be involved, but she's slow walking her involvement. I even have the perfect picture in mind for our banner (me shoving popcorn in my mouth with pure joy on my face


...as Prometheus rolls in the background.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 11:29 AM (QFqpA)

329 I might as well just start making content and let her catch up.


I'll watch if she shows bewb.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 09, 2020 11:29 AM (gd9RK)

330 333 I might as well just start making content and let her catch up.


I'll watch if she shows bewb.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 09, 2020 11:29 AM (gd9RK)

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She is pretty hot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 11:29 AM (LvTSG)

331 324 I'm gonna get Dolley to get prepared to start the Youtube channel this weekend, hell or high water.

She insists she wants to be involved, but she's slow walking her involvement. I even have the perfect picture in mind for our banner (me shoving popcorn in my mouth with pure joy on my face and her with a bored expression as she rests her head on her fist, side-eyeing me).

I know what three shows I want to do (a discussion with her about a specific movie, a video essay version of my posts for the HQ, and a running series on film history), and I have all the equipment.

I might as well just start making content and let her catch up.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 11:27 AM (LvTSG)

Tell her she can devote part of the run time to doing clothes and makeup tutorials.

It would work on my wife

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 11:30 AM (ifmtJ)

332 And the buffalo if the white man hadn't killed them all off in the 19th century.


Posted by: ShainS


You are so ignorant. If there are no more buffalo, where do we get the wings?

Posted by: pep at July 09, 2020 11:30 AM (v16oJ)

333 330 What is it about Native American culture that they
refuse to gird up their loins and go to work? Is the idea of working
hard and gaining wealth to the extent that you could actually fucking
BUY back the land you claim was stolen too much of an offensive white
man concept to them?

Posted by: Two Weeks From Being An Asshole at July 09, 2020 11:26 AM (+dsLj)

_________


You get more of what you subsidize (victimhood) and less of what you tax (self-reliance and productivity).
Posted by: ShainS at July 09, 2020 11:28 AM (WqPYg)

One of the issues on reservations is that you can't own individual real property. So forget about building a business or anything that you could individually invest in to try to get yourself out of poverty. .

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 09, 2020 11:30 AM (NWiLs)

334 Don Lemon: Jesus Was Not Perfect When He Was Here On Earth


Does he mean Black Jesus or Whitey Jesus?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 09, 2020 11:30 AM (oVJmc)

335 338 Don Lemon: Jesus Was Not Perfect When He Was Here On Earth


Does he mean Black Jesus or Whitey Jesus?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 09, 2020 11:30 AM (oVJmc)

He means the Mexican guy he blew last week.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 11:31 AM (ifmtJ)

336 UMMMMM it was taken from Solomon;s appearence on Lou Dobbs show

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 11:12 AM (1Dmt5)

=================
Again, you would do yourself a favor not linking to the Examiner. GO to the Dobbs video if that is the cite. I did. Solomon said something very different than your post claimed. He said "people are frustrated" at the lack of indictments. He said the DOJ is working on it though. Thee is "activity behind the scenes". He hopes to see some thing happen after labor day. But he "understands people's frustration".

Closing question from Dobbs: "Do you think there will be prosecutions before the election".

Solomon: "Lots of activity consistent with building prosecutions. I hope so but you never know"

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at July 09, 2020 11:31 AM (NVYyb)

337 335 Tell her she can devote part of the run time to doing clothes and makeup tutorials.

It would work on my wife
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 11:30 AM (ifmtJ)

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There's a channel she watches every day (Tim Tracker) about a guy and his wife who go to Disney or Universal in Orlando every day. Since the shutdowns, they've focused more and more on their home life around their baby (who's one month younger than Second Junior).

I think she expects that level of effort.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 11:31 AM (LvTSG)

338 Don Lemon: Jesus Was Not Perfect When He Was Here On Earth


Does he mean Black Jesus or Whitey Jesus?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles


Black Jesus
Cracker Jesus
Joo Jesus
or
Mexican Jesus?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 11:31 AM (QFqpA)

339 I was just playing around with the pension estimate calculator.

YAS!

Posted by: Barr at July 09, 2020 11:31 AM (KgzRF)

340 Don Lemon: Jesus Was Not Perfect When He Was Here On Earth


Are you saying Jesus can't hit a curveball?

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 09, 2020 11:32 AM (3SIUH)

341 And the buffalo if the white man hadn't killed them all off in the 19th century.


Posted by: ShainS

You are so ignorant. If there are no more buffalo, where do we get the wings?
Posted by: pep


You ruined that by not socking AOC.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 11:32 AM (QFqpA)

342 340 Don Lemon: Jesus Was Not Perfect When He Was Here On Earth


Are you saying Jesus can't hit a curveball?
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 09, 2020 11:32 AM (3SIUH)

========

Can Jesus throw a curveball so well that even he cannot hit it?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 11:32 AM (LvTSG)

343 Never thought Breitbart was after Andrew died.

************

Breitbart.com constantly gets shit wrong writing in the most alarmist fashion possible, completely unbalanced and unhinged in news reporting. They are not on our side.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Being An Asshole at July 09, 2020 11:21 AM (+dsLj)


I think Andrew would be disgusted with what it's turned into.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 09, 2020 11:33 AM (y7DUB)

344 You ruined that by not socking AOC.

Posted by: rickb223


I am ashamed.

Posted by: pep at July 09, 2020 11:33 AM (v16oJ)

345 Carvile is full of shit. Front page NY Slime is setting up excuses for Biden to back out.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 09, 2020 10:58 AM (WvQcX)

It started with Thomas Freidman - he threw out the first trial balloon yesterday after a powwow with the Dems...oh, they're going to get everyone in the press on board - Biden
's way ahead, what's the point - Trump hasn't given his tax returns - all phony issues - the polls are made up to give them the "he's way ahead" excuse, Biden has given up his Delaware papers after he knuckle fucked his intern...etc etc - same game plan as always.

Posted by: Boswell at July 09, 2020 11:33 AM (32YRo)

346 Don Lemon: Jesus Was Not Perfect When He Was Here On Earth


Does he mean Black Jesus or Whitey Jesus?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles


Black Jesus
Cracker Jesus
Joo Jesus
or
Mexican Jesus?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 11:31 AM (QFqpA)


Hey Zeus.

Posted by: DR.WTF at July 09, 2020 11:33 AM (AiZBA)

347 Consanguinity must be an issue on some rez's. There's a lot of it about.

Posted by: klaftern at July 09, 2020 11:33 AM (RuIsu)

348 One of the issues on reservations is that you can't own individual real property. So forget about building a business or anything that you could individually invest in to try to get yourself out of poverty. .


There was some sort of hearing on Indian affairs yesterday. The program guide said CSPAN3 had something else, but it was Injun hearings. I only watched a little.

The guy testifying was saying things about 40% of a Rez having no electricity or running water? Really, in 2020?

James Watt got in trouble for calling the Reservations failed socialism, and that was back in the Reagan days.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 09, 2020 11:34 AM (gd9RK)

349 334 333 I might as well just start making content and let her catch up.

I'll watch if she shows bewb.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 09, 2020 11:29 AM (gd9RK)
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She is pretty hot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 11:29 AM

We're still talking about that Liz Redskin gal, right? Not my type, but I'd still give her a finger or two.

Posted by: Joe "Sniffy" Biden at July 09, 2020 11:35 AM (1pMFa)

350 Breitbart.com constantly gets shit wrong writing in the most alarmist fashion possible, completely unbalanced and unhinged in news reporting. They are not on our side.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Being An Asshole at July 09, 2020 11:21 AM (+dsLj)

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This is indisputably true.

Posted by: Venus at July 09, 2020 11:36 AM (iYXhj)

351 337 335 Tell her she can devote part of the run time to doing clothes and makeup tutorials.

It would work on my wife
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 11:30 AM (ifmtJ)

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There's a channel she watches every day (Tim Tracker) about a guy and his wife who go to Disney or Universal in Orlando every day. Since the shutdowns, they've focused more and more on their home life around their baby (who's one month younger than Second Junior).

I think she expects that level of effort.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 11:31 AM (LvTSG)

Well consistent content flow is the key to getting ANY traction on the hell hole of YouTube. My good friend Rikk learned that the hard way with his Robot Co-op channel.

But I hope you don't need to put out that much stuff.

Look at Twitch, too. It still has some room for growth and reward.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 11:36 AM (ifmtJ)

352 What is it about Native American culture that they refuse to gird up their loins and go to work? Is the idea of working hard and gaining wealth to the extent that you could actually fucking BUY back the land you claim was stolen too much of an offensive white man concept to them?

Posted by: Two Weeks From Being An Asshole at July 09, 2020 11:26 AM (+dsLj)
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There are two big problems, I think. I am not an expert, it is based only on history I have studied.

The first is that many reservations don't really have private property. It's hard to achieve when you don't own your means of production and the produce of your labor. Add in the unusual legal codes, nuances of tribal law, etc. and it may not be worth the risk or effort depending on where you are.

In addition, I think the War was a big factor. The Indian nations stepped up fairly well during WWII, and demanded lots of federal benefits as compensation. They got them. The reservations are unaccountable welfare states, and have been for generations. Nothing destroys human motivation like a welfare state.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 11:36 AM (hYcqw)

353 Soloman says indictments are coming. By the looks of Trump's twitter rant in the last hour, sure doesn't look like he thinks so.

Posted by: WisRich at July 09, 2020 11:36 AM (G0vdT)

354 Next Lawsuit will be for the Tribes who 'owned' the land to sue the State, for all the Tax Revenue for that half of the State.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 09, 2020 11:36 AM (NgKpN)

355 It's Chocolate Jesus...

Posted by: CSMBigBird at July 09, 2020 11:37 AM (jsWA8)

356 351 Well consistent content flow is the key to getting ANY traction on the hell hole of YouTube. My good friend Rikk learned that the hard way with his Robot Co-op channel.

But I hope you don't need to put out that much stuff.

Look at Twitch, too. It still has some room for growth and reward.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 11:36 AM (ifmtJ)
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My aim would be one a week, the RLM release strategy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 11:37 AM (LvTSG)

357 I think Andrew would be disgusted with what it's turned into.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 09, 2020 11:33 AM (y7DUB)


But not surprised. It was inevitable.

Posted by: clutch cargo at July 09, 2020 11:37 AM (8B6Ng)

358 352 What is it about Native American culture that they refuse to gird up their loins and go to work? Is the idea of working hard and gaining wealth to the extent that you could actually fucking BUY back the land you claim was stolen too much of an offensive white man concept to them?

Posted by: Two Weeks From Being An Asshole at July 09, 2020 11:26 AM (+dsLj)
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There are two big problems, I think. I am not an expert, it is based only on history I have studied.

The first is that many reservations don't really have private property. It's hard to achieve when you don't own your means of production and the produce of your labor. Add in the unusual legal codes, nuances of tribal law, etc. and it may not be worth the risk or effort depending on where you are.

In addition, I think the War was a big factor. The Indian nations stepped up fairly well during WWII, and demanded lots of federal benefits as compensation. They got them. The reservations are unaccountable welfare states, and have been for generations. Nothing destroys human motivation like a welfare state.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 11:36 AM (hYcqw)

I recall seeing a Fox bit once about a tribe who got shafted on the bennies and special treatment. Its members were well-off assimilated members of society as a consequence.

Posted by: Someguy at July 09, 2020 11:37 AM (Zm+LZ)

359 The guy testifying was saying things about 40% of a Rez having no electricity or running water? Really, in 2020?



That's what being "sovereign territory" means.
Your tribal council is responsible for EVERYTHING.

Sucks if they're not up to the job.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 11:38 AM (QFqpA)

360 I took an hour paid leave to go vote yesterday. My manager asked if it was early voting for the general election...
At first I thought he didn't know but now I think it was a test to see if I was really voting.

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue! at July 09, 2020 11:38 AM (UUBmN)

361 >>Again, you would do yourself a favor not linking to the Examiner

I saw the Dobbs video live which is a challenge because Dobbs can't ask a question without editorializing about how frustrated he is. We get it Lou, you want it now!

Doesn't seem to be a lot of wiggle room here. Housley is the guy who first broke the spy gate story, well before Solomon or anyone else and he claims to have a number of sources at the DOJ.

@adamhousley

My guess....there will be indictments before the summer recess.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2020 11:39 AM (ZLI7S)

362 I took an hour paid leave to go vote yesterday. My manager asked if it was early voting for the general election...
At first I thought he didn't know but now I think it was a test to see if I was really voting.
Posted by: lin-duh en fugue! at July 09, 2020 11:38 AM (UUBmN)
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Are you highly confident that your boss isn't an ignoramus? Because that would be the obvious conclusion...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 11:39 AM (hYcqw)

363 Soloman says indictments are coming. By the looks of Trump's twitter rant in the last hour, sure doesn't look like he thinks so.

Posted by: WisRich at July 09, 2020 11:36 AM

Burning clock and waiting for prez Biden to shut it all down.


Today is July 9th 2020.

It's been over a year.

Posted by: Zero Prosecutions Zero Raids at July 09, 2020 11:40 AM (KgzRF)

364

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 11:31 AM (LvTSG)

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The videos you should consider making are ones documenting the interaction with your wife in pursuit of the planned channel. Not sure how you accomplish that, but that's where the money is.

Posted by: No one at July 09, 2020 11:40 AM (Vd6qv)

365 And the buffalo if the white man hadn't killed them all off in the 19th century.





Posted by: ShainS at July 09, 2020 11:24 AM

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It would have not been so bad, but they just took the wings and left the carcasses lying on the ground.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 09, 2020 11:40 AM (JUOKG)

366 353
Soloman says indictments are coming.

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Where did he say that? I saw Solomon say he thinks there is prep work being done at DOJ consistent with indictments, but he does not know. He also doesn't know when to expect any action. He hopes for before the election, but he doesn't sound confident.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at July 09, 2020 11:41 AM (NVYyb)

367 Not a bad result actually.

Stiff-arming Congress - whose subpoenas had all those "since the beginning of time" provisions and were clearly intended to harass the President rather than lend information necessary to legislate - was correct, and forcing turnover of some docs to a state DA for criminal review is correct bc the Court had already decided that point in both the Nixon and Clinton cases.

The latter opinion states that Trump can still raise scope and relevance objections against the DA's withchunt, which should keep Sekolow in practice another five or ten years years. Long story shot, I don't think Vance should be expecting a FedEx with what he's asking for inside anytime soon.

In the former, I do like that the Court ruled there are significant limits to Congress' fact-finding ability. The so-called oversight function is an implied power, a legal fiction Nancy doesn't understand and instead thinks empowers her to clutch anything she wants from citizens public or private, and then take it all back to her crypt for a looksie. This opinion says no, your power to collect info must be directly related to your ability to legislate "wisely" (*ahem*).

The bigger problem for Trump now is that Vance is a power-mad, first class asshole, much like that DA in Texas who charged Delay and every other Texan whose address he had on hand with whatever he could think of.

Roberts also notes that Trump's team didn't raise executive immunity. I see why (Vance is focusing on Team Trump's personal business dealings), but I would have anyway just to say many records were inextricably intertwined with my job so *maybe* we can unravel all that some day, but first you will blow me.

Posted by: Blacksheep at July 09, 2020 11:41 AM (8/DeP)

368 58
Don Lemon: Jesus Was Not Perfect When He Was Here On Earth
Wow, never realized Don Lemon was such a theological expert.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 09, 2020 11:41 AM (N39Ws)

369 >>This is not about Trump's taxes.



This is about finding out who he does business with, so they can release that information, and create a hit list.

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THIS





It's about DESTROYING his business and those with whom he does business.
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And what if it was about his taxes? That wouldn't matter.

We know their motives are evil regardless.

Posted by: SH at July 09, 2020 11:41 AM (sX1BW)

370 333 Reservations are the real life examples of what communism produces.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 09, 2020 11:41 AM (24mad)

371
I think Biden will go with a lame, undisprovable assertion. I predict something really vague, along the lines of "it's beneath his dignity to debate a racist."

1.) There's no way the Democrats let him debate Trump, unless they don't care about the election. I thought that may have been a possibility, but after they went so far as to lock everyone in their homes and start burning and looting cities as a campaign tactic, I think they're in to win.

2.) Anything specific they try will be easily disprovable. The obvious go-to would be Muh Viruz!! but that can be easily addressed for a televised debate, and would make him look even lamer.

Best tactic is just to viciously attack Trump on the basis of character and then refuse to debate as a virtue signal.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2020 11:42 AM (oJN+m)

372 Are you highly confident that your boss isn't an ignoramus? Because that would be the obvious conclusion...
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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Well, I overheard him discussing how he basically didn't agree the all the democrats candidates but it didn't matter because he was voting for whoever won.
So...not sure.

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue! at July 09, 2020 11:42 AM (UUBmN)

373 What is it about Native American culture that they
refuse to gird up their loins and go to work? Is the idea of working
hard and gaining wealth to the extent that you could actually fucking
BUY back the land you claim was stolen too much of an offensive white
man concept to them?



Posted by: Two Weeks From Being An Asshole at July 09, 2020 11:26 AM (+dsLj)

++++++++++++

There are two big problems, I think. I am not an expert, it is based only on history I have studied.



The first is that many reservations don't really have private
property. It's hard to achieve when you don't own your means of
production and the produce of your labor. Add in the unusual legal
codes, nuances of tribal law, etc. and it may not be worth the risk or
effort depending on where you are.



In addition, I think the War was a big factor. The Indian nations
stepped up fairly well during WWII, and demanded lots of federal
benefits as compensation. They got them. The reservations are
unaccountable welfare states, and have been for generations. Nothing
destroys human motivation like a welfare state.


Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 11:36 AM

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You can't help someone who doesn't want help.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 09, 2020 11:42 AM (JUOKG)

374 361. Here's hoping!

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at July 09, 2020 11:42 AM (svbBD)

375 356 351 Well consistent content flow is the key to getting ANY traction on the hell hole of YouTube. My good friend Rikk learned that the hard way with his Robot Co-op channel.

But I hope you don't need to put out that much stuff.

Look at Twitch, too. It still has some room for growth and reward.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 11:36 AM (ifmtJ)
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My aim would be one a week, the RLM release strategy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 11:37 AM (LvTSG)

I'll be rooting for ya.
And subscribing, so let me know when you launch

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 11:43 AM (ifmtJ)

376 347 Consanguinity must be an issue on some rez's. There's a lot of it about.
Posted by: klaftern at July 09, 2020 11:33 AM (RuIsu)


Well that, and Maddog 20/20

Posted by: Sooner - White Blue-eyed Debil at July 09, 2020 11:43 AM (Fs5vw)

377 Developing

The decision stems from Trump's refusal since the 2016 election cycle to release his tax returns and other financial records.

The broad question before the high court was whether Trump could block subpoenas sent to his accountants and bankers from congressional House committees and New York prosecutors.
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 11:19 AM (1Dmt5)

There is absolutely no law which states that a candidate for president must release their tax returns. It's a tradition, that's all.

I get stare decisis, but this is not even a matter of law that is being decided here. If Congress decided to pass a law requiring a private citizen (which is what Trump was before deciding to run for president) to release their financials, then I'd get what this whole thing is about.

Can the lawyers in the Horde enlighten me on this?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 09, 2020 11:43 AM (6xA3t)

378 getting new Dryer & those poor guys in this heat & Humidity Have to wear masks

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 11:43 AM (1Dmt5)

379 366 353
Soloman says indictments are coming.

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Where did he say that? I saw Solomon say he thinks there is prep work being done at DOJ consistent with indictments, but he does not know. He also doesn't know when to expect any action. He hopes for before the election, but he doesn't sound confident.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at July 09, 2020 11:41 AM (NVYyb)
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I was just reading comments on the thread then went over to Trump's twitter feed and thought "okay, there's a disconnect somewhere". I would imagine Trump has more inside info then Soloman.

Posted by: WisRich at July 09, 2020 11:43 AM (G0vdT)

380 Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2020 11:39 AM (ZLI7S)

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Let Ghost know. He's the one citing the Dobbs/Solomon interview. I was surprised at what he claimed so I went and watched it. Solomon said something different than he posted.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at July 09, 2020 11:43 AM (NVYyb)

381 Don Lemon: Jesus Was Not Perfect When He Was Here On Earth
Wow, never realized Don Lemon was such a theological expert.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
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Actually, he was perfect...that was the point, DUH!!!

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue! at July 09, 2020 11:43 AM (UUBmN)

382 353 
Soloman says indictments are coming

....


He said it a couple months ago.


Oh wait did he say it again?

Posted by: Zero Prosecutions Zero Raids at July 09, 2020 11:43 AM (KgzRF)

383 >>Here's hoping!

@shipwreckedcrew is another great source to follow. Former federal prosecutor with over 20 years at the DOJ.

He absolutely thinks indictments are coming.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2020 11:44 AM (ZLI7S)

384 The Cherokee freed their slaves in 1864 AND made them full members of the tribe. Just getting this on the record.

Posted by: creeper at July 09, 2020 11:44 AM (XxJt1)

385
The decision stems from Trump's refusal since the 2016 election cycle to release his tax returns and other financial records.



The broad question before the high court was whether Trump could
block subpoenas sent to his accountants and bankers from congressional
House committees and New York prosecutors.

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 11:19 AM (1Dmt5)



There is absolutely no law which states that a candidate for
president must release their tax returns. It's a tradition, that's all.



I get stare decisis, but this is not even a matter of law that is
being decided here. If Congress decided to pass a law requiring a
private citizen (which is what Trump was before deciding to run for
president) to release their financials, then I'd get what this whole
thing is about.



Can the lawyers in the Horde enlighten me on this?

Posted by: Darrell Harris

Not a lawyer, but:
ORANGE MAN BAD
QED

Posted by: pep at July 09, 2020 11:44 AM (v16oJ)

386 The bigger problem for Trump now is that Vance is a power-mad, first class asshole, much like that DA in Texas who charged Delay and every other Texan whose address he had on hand with whatever he could think of.

- SNIP -
Posted by: Blacksheep at July 09, 2020 11:41 AM (8/DeP)

The day the GOPe lost whatever spine it had left was the day that DeLay left the Senate.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 09, 2020 11:45 AM (6xA3t)

387 That Ryan George link in the sidebar is funny. It's like those bizarre movie summaries that focus on odd nuances to make thing sounds horrible. Like, "A young orphan girl commits murder as a prelude to the execution of a revolutionary coup de tat in a fantasy world" as a way to describe the Wizard of Oz.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 11:45 AM (hYcqw)

388 The so-called oversight function is an implied power, a legal fiction

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This is exactly right. The power only exists because the executive branch (and the judiciary as well) would "need" Congress for funding and approvals. So if you want funding and/or approvals, you need to allow Congress some oversight.


But many seem to think it is much more broad. With Congress funding just about everything in sight these days, I'd say it is actually weaker - to some extent.


At the end, it is just a political power between two branches and two parties.

Posted by: SH at July 09, 2020 11:45 AM (sX1BW)

389 383 >>Here's hoping!

@shipwreckedcrew is another great source to follow. Former federal prosecutor with over 20 years at the DOJ.

He absolutely thinks indictments are coming.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2020 11:44 AM (ZLI7S)

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It'll be funny if Rice gets indicted the day after Biden announces her as VP.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 11:45 AM (LvTSG)

390 Some animals are more equal than other.

Ben Norton@BenjaminNorton
In addition to being a gov snitch, fraud George Orwell spent WWII demonizing the USSR as it defeated Nazism

As the Red Army sacrificed millions fighting Hitler, and as the Nazi regime shoved Jews into gas chambers, Orwell was writing Animal Farm

Vile man

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 09, 2020 11:45 AM (+y/Ru)

391 Chocolate chip cookies....mmmmm

Posted by: runner at July 09, 2020 11:46 AM (tQASX)

392 387 That Ryan George link in the sidebar is funny. It's like those bizarre movie summaries that focus on odd nuances to make thing sounds horrible. Like, "A young orphan girl commits murder as a prelude to the execution of a revolutionary coup de tat in a fantasy world" as a way to describe the Wizard of Oz.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 11:45 AM (hYcqw)

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A young girl finds herself in a new land and murders the first person she meets. She meets up with three friends and set out to kill again.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 11:46 AM (LvTSG)

393 "Trump should sign an executive order publicly releasing the tax returns of every member of Congress." Posted by: Eli Cash

or limit it to moneys made AFTER attaining office ... (including all donations they received for campaigns). Include their siblings ... include time after leaving office (book deals, no show board of director jobs, Cayman Island accounts, bundles of cash in freezers).


There is SO much dirty money flowing through DC (and Wall Street). They control the process, so whistle blowers get stabbed in the back (Flynn and many others) by those running the game.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 09, 2020 11:46 AM (Cus5s)

394 Oh right, Roberts screw us again?

Posted by: runner at July 09, 2020 11:46 AM (tQASX)

395
I like Solomon, but he's been saying this for some time. I don't think he's a huckster like DiGenova because he's gotten it wrong, but that he doesn't know as much as he thinks he knows.

I do think he's a straight shooter though.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2020 11:47 AM (oJN+m)

396 212 Governor Murphy better find a fucking Lenni Lenape and give them his house.
Posted by: CN at July 09, 2020 11:06 AM

Here I am...

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 09, 2020 11:47 AM (qe5CM)

397 390 Some animals are more equal than other.

Ben Norton@BenjaminNorton
In addition to being a gov snitch, fraud George Orwell spent WWII demonizing the USSR as it defeated Nazism

As the Red Army sacrificed millions fighting Hitler, and as the Nazi regime shoved Jews into gas chambers, Orwell was writing Animal Farm

Vile man
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 09, 2020 11:45 AM (+y/Ru)

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And the USSR never had gulags or forced starvations or anything!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 11:47 AM (LvTSG)

398 Why is Trump fighting all these subpoenas if he has nothing to hide? - Leftist argument

Sure, because prosecutors only seek justice and would surely drop investigations once it's clear no crime was committed, and have NEVER had a reputation of being power-mad and deranged that they would easily trample the rights of Americans in their lust for unbridled despotic power. - Said No One, Ever

Posted by: Two Weeks From Being An Asshole at July 09, 2020 11:47 AM (+dsLj)

399 Vile man
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Ben Norton or George Orwell?

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue! at July 09, 2020 11:47 AM (UUBmN)

400 As the Red Army sacrificed millions fighting Hitler, and as the Nazi
regime shoved Jews into gas chambers, Orwell was writing Animal Farm



Vile man


You are wrong. He was rejected by the military because of "shadows on his lungs", which was the precursor to the TB that killed him. He did serve in the Home Guard as best they would allow it.

He attacked the USSR not because he was a friend of the Nazis, but because he saw the common evil in fascism and communism.

Posted by: pep at July 09, 2020 11:48 AM (v16oJ)

401 They do work out here. They fish. But there's a few issues with the getting ahead part. There's a lot of alcohol and drug problems. The successful ones I knew were Indian Shakers, so they had a religious structure to help resist alcohol and drugs.

I think the other issue is the Indian equivalent of "acting white". Just like with blacks, certain behaviors are considered acting white and to be avoided. unfortunately these tend to be behaviors that would make them successful.

Posted by: notsothoreau at July 09, 2020 11:48 AM (JKNZq)

402 New news, Bernie as Bidet's Veep. You heard it here first.

Posted by: runner at July 09, 2020 11:48 AM (tQASX)

403 387 That Ryan George link in the sidebar is funny. It's like those bizarre movie summaries that focus on odd nuances to make thing sounds horrible. Like, "A young orphan girl commits murder as a prelude to the execution of a revolutionary coup de tat in a fantasy world" as a way to describe the Wizard of Oz.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 11:45 AM (hYcqw

See also: The Hunger Games

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 11:48 AM (ifmtJ)

404 402 New news, Bernie as Bidet's Veep. You heard it here first.
Posted by: runner at July 09, 2020 11:48 AM (tQASX)

That would be smart. So it won't happen.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 11:48 AM (ifmtJ)

405 another day of bullshit

Posted by: phoenixgirl at July 09, 2020 11:49 AM (CqHIp)

406 Wait, what? I'm caught up on the comments at last?

This can only mean Early Ace is Imminent. Maybe.

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Okie by birth and choice. AmerIndian influence is thick here. Also, there's a lot of AmerIndians. It *is* land of the red man, after all.

It's odd, but I never see Cherokee Nation license plates on Jeep Cherokees. Dodge Ram Trucks and big honking SUVs, usually. Keep gamblin', crackers.

There's a Cherokee graveyard here which we take care of. Came with the farm. Some amazing stories buried there.

Posted by: mindful webworker
Amendment V: Loopholes
at July 09, 2020 11:49 AM (cGpV0)

407 403 387 That Ryan George link in the sidebar is funny. It's like those bizarre movie summaries that focus on odd nuances to make thing sounds horrible. Like, "A young orphan girl commits murder as a prelude to the execution of a revolutionary coup de tat in a fantasy world" as a way to describe the Wizard of Oz.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 11:45 AM (hYcqw

See also: The Hunger Games
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 11:48 AM (ifmtJ)

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Because you can write descriptions of the two movies that sound very similar, that means they are the same movie.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 11:49 AM (LvTSG)

408 Soloman says indictments are coming. By the looks of Trump's twitter rant in the last hour, sure doesn't look like he thinks so.
Posted by: WisRich at July 09, 2020 11:36 AM (G0vdT)


"My sources tell me there's a lot of activity. I'm seeing, personally, activity behind the scenes of the Justice Department," Solomon said on Tuesday, adding that Durham's team "is trying to bring those first indictments, and I would look for a time around Labor Day to see the first sort of action by the Justice Department."

Solomon sounds skeptical of his sources.

Sources can go horsefuck.

Indict some people, or don't.

Posted by: blaster at July 09, 2020 11:49 AM (Ieq1i)

409 A young orphan girl commits murder as a prelude to the execution of a revolutionary coup de tat in a fantasy world" as a way to describe the Wizard of Oz.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 11:45 AM (hYcqw)

Three Women, and a Metrosexual Man, fight over a pair of shoes. Murder ensues. Parental Discretion Advised.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 09, 2020 11:50 AM (NgKpN)

410 >>Let Ghost know. He's the one citing the Dobbs/Solomon interview. I was surprised at what he claimed so I went and watched it. Solomon said something different than he posted.

Not really. He said he's seen and heard about activity that would seem to indicate indictments are coming.

On what basis do you think Barr, Durham and the other 4 US Attorney's also working on parts of this case along with the new federal prosecutors and investigators that have been added to the team are doing all of this just to bury it? What has Barr done that would lead you to believe that?

Those of us who believe indictments are coming are challenged constantly on why we think it will happen so I'd like to hear why you think a guy Trump praises constantly and who said clearly during his hearing that he knew there was spying on the Trump campaign and he was going to get to the bottom of it is a deep state hack.

I'd also like to know why USA Jensen and Barr keep turning over newly discovered information to Flynn after telling the court they were declining to go forward with their prosecution if they were just planning on covering this up. Why release notes that prove both Obama and Biden were not just involved but leading the coup attempt if you don't plan to do anything?

So why all the doubt?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2020 11:50 AM (ZLI7S)

411 New news, Bernie as Bidet's Veep. You heard it here first.

Posted by: runner at July 09, 2020 11:48

I hope you don't have money on that.

Posted by: LOL at July 09, 2020 11:50 AM (KgzRF)

412 Ben Norton or George Orwell?

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Ben Norton about George Orwell.v

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 09, 2020 11:50 AM (+y/Ru)

413 ... Ben Norton@BenjaminNorton
In addition to being a gov snitch, fraud George Orwell spent WWII demonizing the USSR as it defeated Nazism

As the Red Army sacrificed millions fighting Hitler, and as the Nazi regime shoved Jews into gas chambers, Orwell was writing Animal Farm
...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 09, 2020 11:45 AM (+y/Ru)
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Just because the Soviets were fighting the Nazis does *not* mean the Soviets were good. You take the allies you can get. This is obvious, and the argument is stupid and isn't meant to be anything other than stupid. This is a common argument, and states that we should become communists because the Soviets did the bulk of the dying against the Nazis and it is owed to them as a blood debt.

Except that argument sounds stupid when you distill it down like that. Just like the "we need to subordinate our sovereignty to the EU or the Germans will invade Poland again" sounds equally stupid when you distill it down.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 11:50 AM (hYcqw)

414 Why wouldn't they just leak the tax docs or something that looks like them? Perhaps a mock up of what his tax docs might look like?

There will be no penalty for doing so. Quite the contrary.

Posted by: MJ at July 09, 2020 11:51 AM (gAMkn)

415 404 402 New news, Bernie as Bidet's Veep. You heard it here first.
Posted by: runner at July 09, 2020 11:48 AM (tQASX)

That would be smart. So it won't happen.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 11:48 AM (ifmtJ)

Wait, the Dem party establishment went all in on saying that the black vote in SC was imperative to derail the Sanders juggernaut that was threatening to wipe out all the down-ballot Dem candidates, and now they're going to go ahead and let Bernie take the top spot after Biden keels over on 21 Jan 2021??

That's not smart at all.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 09, 2020 11:51 AM (6xA3t)

416 You can't help someone who doesn't want help.

-

Where's my extra $600?
- people receiving Covid-19 panic unemployment

Posted by: No one at July 09, 2020 11:52 AM (3J1+H)

417 415
404 402 New news, Bernie as Bidet's Veep. You heard it here first


A white male? Shirley you jest.

Posted by: pep at July 09, 2020 11:53 AM (v16oJ)

418 On what basis do you think Barr, Durham and the other 4 US Attorney's also working on parts of this case along with the new federal prosecutors and investigators that have been added to the team are doing all of this just to bury it? What has Barr done that would lead you to believe that?

Those of us who believe indictments are coming are challenged constantly on why we think it will happen so I'd like to hear why you think a guy Trump praises constantly and who said clearly during his hearing that he knew there was spying on the Trump campaign and he was going to get to the bottom of it is a deep state hack.

I'd also like to know why USA Jensen and Barr keep turning over newly discovered information to Flynn after telling the court they were declining to go forward with their prosecution if they were just planning on covering this up. Why release notes that prove both Obama and Biden were not just involved but leading the coup attempt if you don't plan to do anything?

So why all the doubt?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2020 11:50 AM (ZLI7S)

For the record, I'm an optimist and I think you are right more than wrong but, here are grounds for doubt:

1. Track record. We have heard similar promises before that amounted to nothing. Sleepy Jeff Sessions comes to mind most recently.

2. Speed. When the State chooses to move quickly, it can. See Roger Stone. We do not see the same alacrity and power of the state being used against our enemies. No perp walks, no 4 am raids. Justice delayed is Justice denied. Some of these people are seemingly going to die of old age before they spend any time in prison.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 11:53 AM (ifmtJ)

419 Where's Robert's flight records?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 09, 2020 11:54 AM (L6ZYH)

420 402 New news, Bernie as Bidet's Veep. You heard it here first.
Posted by: runner at July 09, 2020 11:48 AM (tQASX)

Only if he's in blackface, and wears a dress.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 09, 2020 11:54 AM (Kpl3J)

421 We do know however that Hunter Biden didn't want his tax returns issued to a court in the stripper mama case.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 09, 2020 11:54 AM (r+sAi)

422 New news, Bernie as Bidet's Veep. You heard it here first.



Posted by: runner at July 09, 2020 11:48




They're almost 160 years old combined aren't they? That ought to be a winning ticket

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 09, 2020 11:54 AM (IJ0K1)

423 Like, "A young orphan girl commits murder as a prelude to the execution of a revolutionary coup de tat in a fantasy world" as a way to describe the Wizard of Oz.

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Religious zealot grooms young orphan in mysticism and martial arts in order to assassinate elected leader of galaxy.

Posted by: No one at July 09, 2020 11:54 AM (t1zan)

424 A white male? Shirley you jest.

Posted by: pep at July 09, 2020

Who is ancient and recently had a heart attack.


Uh huh

Posted by: LOL at July 09, 2020 11:54 AM (KgzRF)

425 Religious zealot grooms young orphan in mysticism and martial arts in order to assassinate elected leader of galaxy.
Posted by: No one at July 09, 2020 11:54 AM (t1zan)
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HA!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 11:55 AM (hYcqw)

426 415 404 402 New news, Bernie as Bidet's Veep. You heard it here first.
Posted by: runner at July 09, 2020 11:48 AM (tQASX)

That would be smart. So it won't happen.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 11:48 AM (ifmtJ)

Wait, the Dem party establishment went all in on saying that the black vote in SC was imperative to derail the Sanders juggernaut that was threatening to wipe out all the down-ballot Dem candidates, and now they're going to go ahead and let Bernie take the top spot after Biden keels over on 21 Jan 2021??

That's not smart at all.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 09, 2020 11:51 AM (6xA3t)

Nominating Bernie would unite the base. Nobody else the Dems could put in there, black, brown or half and half could do that.

I doubt it will happen though. Identity politics is like poisoned heroin to the Left.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 11:55 AM (ifmtJ)

427 Do Midgets only have to stay 3 feet apart ?

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 11:55 AM (1Dmt5)

428 For what it is worth I have a lot of patients who are fuckin fed up with the dems

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 09, 2020 11:20 AM (tsZQ+)

Navy? Civilian?

Posted by: BignJames at July 09, 2020 11:55 AM (X/Pw5)

429 The day the GOPe lost whatever spine it had left was the day that DeLay left the Senate.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 09, 2020 11:45 AM (6xA3t)


Yep, those twats sold the Hammer out to dogshit lawfare just like they did Noot, particularly in the latter case because he included term limits in the Contract With America upsetting the GOP lifers.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 09, 2020 11:55 AM (y7DUB)

430 413 ... Ben Norton@BenjaminNorton
In addition to being a gov snitch, fraud George Orwell spent WWII demonizing the USSR as it defeated Nazism

As the Red Army sacrificed millions fighting Hitler, and as the Nazi regime shoved Jews into gas chambers, Orwell was writing Animal Farm ...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 09, 2020 11:45 AM (+y/Ru)
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Just because the Soviets were fighting the Nazis does *not* mean the Soviets were good. You take the allies you can get. This is obvious, and the argument is stupid and isn't meant to be anything other than stupid. This is a common argument, and states that we should become communists because the Soviets did the bulk of the dying against the Nazis and it is owed to them as a blood debt.

Except that argument sounds stupid when you distill it down like that. Just like the "we need to subordinate our sovereignty to the EU or the Germans will invade Poland again" sounds equally stupid when you distill it down.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 11:50 AM (hYcqw)

Listen to your friend Joe Mannix! He's a cool dude.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 11:56 AM (ifmtJ)

431 So why all the doubt?
----------

They either come or they don't. I'm sure there are things happening. But most of us only care about results. Time will tell.

Posted by: SH at July 09, 2020 11:56 AM (sX1BW)

432 The day the GOPe lost whatever spine it had left was the day that DeLay left the Senate. 
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 09, 2020 11:45 AM (6xA3t) 


He never left the Senate.

Posted by: LOL at July 09, 2020 11:56 AM (KgzRF)

433 JackStraw asks:

What has Barr done that would lead you to believe that?

Not one fucking thing.

That is what makes me believe that.

Posted by: blaster at July 09, 2020 11:56 AM (Ieq1i)

434 "Ben Norton@BenjaminNorton

In addition to being a gov snitch, fraud George Orwell spent WWII demonizing the USSR as it defeated Nazism



As the Red Army sacrificed millions fighting Hitler, and as the Nazi
regime shoved Jews into gas chambers, Orwell was writing Animal Farm ...

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Just because the Soviets were fighting the Nazis does *not* mean the
Soviets were good. You take the allies you can get. This is obvious,
and the argument is stupid and isn't meant to be anything other than
stupid. This is a common argument, and states that we should become
communists because the Soviets did the bulk of the dying against the
Nazis and it is owed to them as a blood debt.




Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)"


Not too mention 'sacrificing millions" is a good description. The USSR threw away lives in suicide attacks with under-armed, untrained soldiers to wear down the Nazis. The attacks were a death sentence and commissars machine gunning their retreating soldiers is the only thing that kept the attacks going. They were much more worried about equipment than lives.


But yeah, heroic protectors of the proletariat.

Posted by: Ripley at July 09, 2020 11:57 AM (MxEKc)

435 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 11:53 AM (ifmtJ)
*********
PSSSSSST SessionZZZZZZ set this all up Pass it on

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 11:57 AM (1Dmt5)

436 Nominating Bernie would unite the base. Nobody else the Dems could put in there, black, brown or half and half could do that.

I doubt it will happen though. Identity politics is like poisoned heroin to the Left.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards




And all the POC's get stuck with voting for two old crackers.

Riiiiiiiiight. I can see that firing up the base. Just not in the direction they want.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 11:57 AM (QFqpA)

437 He never left the Senate.

Posted by: LOL at July 09, 2020 11:56 AM (KgzRF)

details...details

Posted by: BignJames at July 09, 2020 11:57 AM (X/Pw5)

438 Hey, remember when the Appeals Court ordered Sullivan to drop the Flynn case like the DOJ requested?

Good times, good times.

Posted by: blaster at July 09, 2020 11:57 AM (Ieq1i)

439 The Cherokee freed their slaves in 1864 AND made them full members of the tribe. Just getting this on the record.
Posted by: creeper


The "freed" part may have been in 1864, but, IIRC, that "made them full members" part was fought in the courts and decided only relatively recently.

Egad! Huge flash of lightning and crack of thunder made me jump.

Posted by: mindful webworker
Amendment V: Loopholes
at July 09, 2020 11:58 AM (cGpV0)

440 I like Solomon, but he's been saying this for some time. I don't think he's a huckster like DiGenova because he's gotten it wrong, but that he doesn't know as much as he thinks he knows.

I do think he's a straight shooter though.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2020 11:47 AM (oJN+m)


I think he means well but some of his inside sources have played him.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 09, 2020 11:58 AM (y7DUB)

441 432 The day the GOPe lost whatever spine it had left was the day that DeLay left the Senate.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 09, 2020 11:45 AM (6xA3t)

He never left the Senate.
Posted by: LOL at July 09, 2020 11:56 AM (KgzRF)

I sit corrected! He was in the House.

Thanks, LOL

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 09, 2020 11:58 AM (6xA3t)

442 Just because the Soviets were fighting the Nazis does *not* mean the Soviets were good. You take the allies you can get.

If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons.
-Winston Churchill

Posted by: pep at July 09, 2020 11:58 AM (v16oJ)

443 Why is Trump fighting all these subpoenas if he has nothing to hide? - Leftist argument



Sure, because prosecutors only seek justice and would surely drop
investigations once it's clear no crime was committed, and have NEVER
had a reputation of being power-mad and deranged that they would easily
trample the rights of Americans in their lust for unbridled despotic
power. - Said No One, Ever



Posted by: Two Weeks From Being An Asshole at July 09, 2020 11:47 AM

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blumenthal was like that when he was AG in CT. He would rush in front of the cameras and announce he was opening a criminal investigation into whatever was the outrage of the day.

He would send out some press releases and do an interview or two and then let the investigation slide. He did this for years.

After his election to the US Senate, his replacement came in he quietly closed hundreds of investigations that blumenthal started but never did anything with.

He literally launched a criminal investigation when a retaining wall broke when they were building the new Home Depot in Montville and the water destroyed one ladies rose bush.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 09, 2020 11:58 AM (JUOKG)

444 21 I find it funny that they're still fucking that tax chicken that had the IRS actually found ANYTHING on him, they'd have slayed him the minute he announced his candidacy.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at July 09, 2020 10:36 AM (Zz0t1)
-----------------------------
Yes, violating opponents' privacy is the signature move of Obama, does anyone think that Obama and company haven't already looked at these records?

Posted by: zmdavid at July 09, 2020 11:58 AM (xqRaG)

445 night 42 of rioting in portland last night
yay

Posted by: harley at July 09, 2020 11:58 AM (2EU+/)

446
Nominating Bernie would unite the base. Nobody else the Dems could put in there, black, brown or half and half could do that.

I doubt it will happen though. Identity politics is like poisoned heroin to the Left.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 11:55 AM (ifmtJ)

--------

That presumes Bernie would do it, though.

Bernie doesn't want to work - we wants to get paid to leave races. It's one of the oldest scams in politics, and Bernie is a Level 11 Grandmaster at it. It's frankly impressive.

Because Bernie pretends to work every four years for a few months, I'll still say Michelle has him beat for "Laziest Person in America," but it's only by a nose.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2020 11:58 AM (oJN+m)

447 Ford employees want the company to stop making police cars, report says

https://cnet.co/3gCX7AM

Well, they can't afford to buy them once they're defunded anyway.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 09, 2020 11:58 AM (+y/Ru)

448 Do Midgets only have to stay 3 feet apart ?
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani

Someone should do a study on them to see what being at fart level has affected them.

Posted by: JT at July 09, 2020 11:58 AM (arJlL)

449 A bunch of commenters here fundamentally misunderstand the Oklahoma discision. The Indian tribes don't actually get ownership of the lands, but those areas of Oklahoma are now apparently off limits for state criminal prosecutions of tribal members, due to an old federal law (they instead have to be prosecuted by the Federal government).

Still a bad decision (read Clarence Thomas's dissent), but not as ludicrous as actually giving an Indian tribe ownership of half the state.

Posted by: Liberty at July 09, 2020 11:59 AM (l00cg)

450 446 That presumes Bernie would do it, though.

Bernie doesn't want to work - we wants to get paid to leave races. It's one of the oldest scams in politics, and Bernie is a Level 11 Grandmaster at it. It's frankly impressive.

Because Bernie pretends to work every four years for a few months, I'll still say Michelle has him beat for "Laziest Person in America," but it's only by a nose.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2020 11:58 AM (oJN+m)

=========

So, VP is the perfect position for him, then.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 11:59 AM (LvTSG)

451 The "freed" part may have been in 1864, but, IIRC, that "made them full members" part was fought in the courts and decided only relatively recently.

Egad! Huge flash of lightning and crack of thunder made me jump.
Posted by: mindful webworker


Confession time?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 11:59 AM (QFqpA)

452 Not too mention 'sacrificing millions" is a good description. The USSR threw away lives in suicide attacks with under-armed, untrained soldiers to wear down the Nazis. The attacks were a death sentence and commissars machine gunning their retreating soldiers is the only thing that kept the attacks going. They were much more worried about equipment than lives.

But yeah, heroic protectors of the proletariat.
Posted by: Ripley at July 09, 2020 11:57 AM (MxEKc)
++++++++++++
Yeah, not to mention that the Soviets were at a serious strategic disadvantage because their insane dictator had spent the prior years killing everyone in the Red Army who could have done better. Not to take anythign away from Zhukov, who's encirclement tactics and pressing offense were extremely effective, but he was one man and it took a while for him to consolidate power. There were basically no worthwhile officers in the Red Army after Stalin's purges, and the "proletariat" paid the blood price of those bungles. Had Hitler not laid siege to Leningrad and Stalingrad, even the willingness of the Soviet military to die by the millions would likely not have saved them.

Good officers can't be replaced immediately when your CiC slaughters most of them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 12:00 PM (hYcqw)

453 Sometimes you see things and you can't help but feel optimistic everything is gonna be ok, this is one of those awesome things:
https://tinyurl.com/yawwt8hx
Crank it.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 09, 2020 12:00 PM (r+sAi)

454 452
Good officers can't be replaced immediately when your CiC slaughters most of them.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 12:00 PM (hYcqw)

=========

Ah, but Stalin did stay in power for many more years.

So, win!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 12:01 PM (LvTSG)

455 Do Midgets only have to stay 3 feet apart ?
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani

Someone should do a study on them to see what being at fart level has affected them.
Posted by: JT


Generally, fart level is right in the face.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 12:01 PM (QFqpA)

456 I find it funny that they're still fucking that tax
chicken that had the IRS actually found ANYTHING on him, they'd have
slayed him the minute he announced his candidacy.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at July 09, 2020 10:36 AM (Zz0t1)

-----------------------------

Yes, violating opponents' privacy is the signature move of Obama,
does anyone think that Obama and company haven't already looked at these
records?



Posted by: zmdavid at July 09, 2020 11:58 AM

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Pretty sure someone on obmam's team actually has them in their possession.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 09, 2020 12:01 PM (JUOKG)

457 This would be the 2nd time since his confirmation he's done that.

If he doesn't show himself is not photographed in public with the black eye, I don't think it counts and he'll have to do it again.

Posted by: t-bird at July 09, 2020 12:02 PM (z36Kd)

458 mindful, the courts carved out an exception for slaves who left OK during the CW but returned later.


The native American issue is a disaster, thanks to dozens of treaties between the feds and various tribes.

Posted by: creeper at July 09, 2020 12:03 PM (XxJt1)

459 Amazon removing all Redskins merch asap. You will be made to care.

I do like how the left is canceling Native Americans, and removing their name, logos, etc. I guess they don't realize canceling Native Americans used to be seen as racist.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 09, 2020 12:03 PM (bkUtD)

460 Sometimes you see things and you can't help but feel optimistic everything is gonna be ok, this is one of those awesome things:
https://tinyurl.com/yawwt8hx
Crank it.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 09, 2020 12:00 PM (r+sAi)
++++++++++++++
Fun. Now do "YYZ"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 12:03 PM (hYcqw)

461 The reason we are worried about Barr and the Prosecutions is that we all still see that as a Hail Mary pass that could help us in the fall elections, but it's coming too late to do any good.

and we are all sitting here watching Trump fuck up his re-election chances and there's nothing we can do about it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 09, 2020 12:03 PM (Kpl3J)

462 Yeah, it's neat to watch people pretend Indians were a single nonviolent group who rejected slavery and didn't claim territories using war and invasions.

One thing the tribes can agree on: the Indian National Anthem will be the clanging of a slot machine.

Posted by: t-bird at July 09, 2020 12:03 PM (z36Kd)

463 Yes, violating opponents' privacy is the signature move of Obama,
does anyone think that Obama and company haven't already looked at these
records?

Posted by: zmdavid at July 09, 2020 11:58 AM

---

Pretty sure someone on obmam's team actually has them in their possession.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 09, 2020 12:01 PM (JUOKG)

Great point.

See Hull, Blair or Ryan, Jack to see how far the Obama/Axelrod team went to invade privacy in elections.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 09, 2020 12:04 PM (6xA3t)

464 >>. Track record. We have heard similar promises before that amounted to nothing. Sleepy Jeff Sessions comes to mind most recently.

>>2. Speed. When the State chooses to move quickly, it can. See Roger Stone. We do not see the same alacrity and power of the state being used against our enemies. No perp walks, no 4 am raids. Justice delayed is Justice denied. Some of these people are seemingly going to die of old age before they spend any time in prison.


You are comparing the speed to do a corrupt process crime, lying, to the most complex and wide reaching political conspiracy in the history of the US and maybe any country ever. It involves not just the US but several foreign governments and foreign spy agencies. That's like comparing playing catch in the backyard with the Super Bowl.

And Durham and team are hampered by the small issue of not being able to make shit up and lie. They know that the forces arrayed against them are enormous and they get one bite at this. And from previous Durham prosecutions his MO is that he is exceedingly methodical and exacting. Once he has turned over every stone he goes looking for more stones.

As to track record I think some have unrealistic expectations. Nothing was going to happen until Mueller was done. People don't like this but that's just reality. This is a political issue as much as a legal one and the entire focus was to impeach Trump so a careful line had to be drawn not to give any grounds for obstruction. For an investigation of this magnitude and complexity to come in in a couple years is actually really fast.

Barr has said repeatedly that his conversations with Durham lead him to believe there will be action by the end of the summer. Again, he has said this recently and repeatedly. He also said, to no one's surprise, that grand juries were not seated for about 3 months thanks to the China virus and that has delayed things.

I have seen zero reason to believe Barr is a fraud and working for the deep state but if anyone has seen it please share.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2020 12:04 PM (ZLI7S)

465 A bunch of commenters here fundamentally misunderstand the Oklahoma discision. The Indian tribes don't actually get ownership of the lands, but those areas of Oklahoma are now apparently off limits for state criminal prosecutions of tribal members, due to an old federal law (they instead have to be prosecuted by the Federal government).

Still a bad decision (read Clarence Thomas's dissent), but not as ludicrous as actually giving an Indian tribe ownership of half the state.
Posted by: Liberty


So if I assault an Indian in Tulsa, I can be arrested by Tulsa PD, but if he assaults me, the FBI has to arrest him?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 12:04 PM (QFqpA)

466 Ford employees want the company to stop making police cars, report says

'

How could people tell?
- Dodge

Posted by: No one at July 09, 2020 12:04 PM (t1zan)

467 Violating your opponents privacy is tight.

Posted by: blaster at July 09, 2020 12:04 PM (Ieq1i)

468 8 And.. what if Donnie Two Scoops says LOLGFY yeah I still ain't releasing them...
Posted by: NALNAMSAM at July 09, 2020 10:34 AM (+ldAm)


Donnie Two Scoops - what a great nic - has a hint if gangsta to it! LOL

Greetings all!

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Ca at July 09, 2020 12:05 PM (xl+i8)

469 So if I assault an Indian in Tulsa, I can be arrested by Tulsa PD, but if he assaults me, the FBI has to arrest him?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 12:04 PM (QFqpA)

Or the Tribal Police.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 09, 2020 12:05 PM (Kpl3J)

470
A young hacker joins a terrorist cell, where he is drugged and brainwashed into disrupting a peaceful global order dedicated to green energy.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2020 12:05 PM (oJN+m)

471 The Soviets also lost millions because Stalin had the best generals purged and shot. They were kept in battle in part by Capitalist trucks and tanks.

Also, they invaded Poland on 9/1/39 along with Nazi Germany, so fuck them.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 09, 2020 12:05 PM (gtdYu)

472 we are all sitting here watching Trump fuck up his re-election chances and there's nothing we can do about it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 09, 

So you're not on the Trump is winning bigly, 50 state landslide train?

Posted by: LOL at July 09, 2020 12:05 PM (KgzRF)

473 And other than leak them to the first NYT hack they can find, what exactly does the NY court do once they have his tax returns?

If there was criminality, wouldn't the IRS and/or the FBI already have done something.

Can we get Biden's?

Posted by: Les Kinetic at July 09, 2020 12:06 PM (4ZE6o)

474 Wait, the indians just made everything a federal crime?

Hahaha

Way to go, guys. Keep on winning.

Posted by: No one at July 09, 2020 12:06 PM (t1zan)

475 I am sure there is nothing in PDT's tax records that are illegal. Embarrasing? Maybe, as there probably is anyone's tax records, especially complicated ones. The IRS never brought a criminal case against him. What a crock of shit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 09, 2020 12:06 PM (tsZQ+)

476 >>The reason we are worried about Barr and the Prosecutions is that we all still see that as a Hail Mary pass that could help us in the fall elections, but it's coming too late to do any good.

Nonsense. The majority of people in the country don't even pay attention to the election until Labor Day. This hasn't changed in 100 years.

Plenty of time.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2020 12:06 PM (ZLI7S)

477 :Good officers can't be replaced immediately when your CiC slaughters most of them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 12:00 PM (hYcqw)



=========



Ah, but Stalin did stay in power for many more years.



So, win!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison"


After the war Stalin saw Zhukov as a threat and made a move to have him purged.. Zhukovs prestige and popularity saved him but he was still demoted. If Stalin had lived much longer Zhukov would have ended up in gulag or worse.

Posted by: Ripley at July 09, 2020 12:06 PM (MxEKc)

478 Why does the RSS feed keep sending dead links to minx.cc addresses? Do you plan to fix minx, update RSS, or just leave a broken feed forever?

Posted by: cpurick at July 09, 2020 12:06 PM (Ie2E7)

479 The reason we are worried about Barr and the Prosecutions is that we all still see that as a Hail Mary pass that could help us in the fall elections, but it's coming too late to do any good.

and we are all sitting here watching Trump fuck up his re-election chances and there's nothing we can do about it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 09, 2020 12:03 PM
(Kpl3J)

You sound....concerned.

Posted by: BignJames at July 09, 2020 12:06 PM (X/Pw5)

480 Yes, violating opponents' privacy is the signature move of Obama, does anyone think that Obama and company haven't already looked at these records?
Posted by: zmdavid at July 09, 2020 11:58 AM (xqRaG)


After Gaylord lost to Bobby Rush the self centered cocksucker realized he couldn't win a fucking thing through natural charm and charisma.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 09, 2020 12:06 PM (y7DUB)

481 A young hacker joins a terrorist cell, where he is drugged and brainwashed into disrupting a peaceful global order dedicated to green energy.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2020 12:05 PM (oJN+m)
++++++++++++
Wow, that's awesome.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 12:07 PM (hYcqw)

482 "They" are saying that the Washington football team is changing its name to the Warriors.

Posted by: blaster at July 09, 2020 12:07 PM (Ieq1i)

483 Posted by: blaster at July 09, 2020 11:57 AM (Ieq1i)
*********
Hey remember when ace has in sidebar it takes 2 weeks to take effect ??????? Good Times. Knowledge is Power

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 12:07 PM (1Dmt5)

484 I can see in Tulsa now on for any police call you're gonna need a team of 3 cops - one white guy, one black guy, and one Cherokee - and you've got to find out who you're dealing with before you can decide which one can make the arrest.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 09, 2020 12:07 PM (Kpl3J)

485 Nonsense. The majority of people in the country don't even pay attention to the election until Labor Day. This hasn't changed in 100 years.

Plenty of time.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2020 12:06 PM (ZLI7S)

Exactly, remember that dope comey opening up the FAB's investigation a few days before the election just might have thrown it to PDT

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 09, 2020 12:07 PM (tsZQ+)

486 Somebody needs to subpoena Supreme Court Justices tax returns to make sure they are not on the take.

Posted by: Jesus Built My Hotrod at July 09, 2020 12:08 PM (6XAJH)

487 >>>"They" are saying that the Washington football team is changing its name to the Warriors.



If I cared about the NFL, this would piss me off, but I don't, so it doesn't. DIAF NFL.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 09, 2020 12:08 PM (bkUtD)

488 482
"They" are saying that the Washington football team is changing its name to the Warriors.

Posted by: blaster


*taps GAF meter*
Nope, still don't care.

Posted by: pep at July 09, 2020 12:09 PM (v16oJ)

489 "They" are saying that the Washington football team is changing its name to the Warriors.

- -

Dumb name.

Should be the Washington Usually In Last Places.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at July 09, 2020 12:09 PM (Ve//x)

490 "They" are saying that the Washington football team is changing its name to the Warriors.
Posted by: blaster at July 09, 2020 12:07 PM (Ieq1i)
+++++++++++
I dunno. Sounds like it glorifies violence to me. Be better, Washington Sports Franchise!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 12:09 PM (hYcqw)

491 I dunno. Sounds like it glorifies violence to me. Be better, Washington Sports Franchise!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 12:09 PM (hYcqw)

I favor Washington Scum.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 09, 2020 12:09 PM (Kpl3J)

492 After the war Stalin saw Zhukov as a threat and made a move to have him purged.. Zhukovs prestige and popularity saved him but he was still demoted. If Stalin had lived much longer Zhukov would have ended up in gulag or worse.
Posted by: Ripley at July 09, 2020 12:06 PM (MxEKc)


Burnt By the Sun was a good movie portraying how the Georgian gimp dealt with popular military heroes in the 30s.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 09, 2020 12:10 PM (y7DUB)

493 Yipe! mindful, you sent that lightening here. And I was standing on the front porch. Has anyone seen my skin?

Posted by: creeper at July 09, 2020 12:10 PM (XxJt1)

494 Hey remember when ace has in sidebar it takes 2 weeks to take effect ??????? Good Times. Knowledge is Power
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 12:07 PM (1Dmt5)


Lessee here, June 24, today is July 9 - I know there is not supposed to be any math here, but, sounds kinda like 2 weeks, don't it?

Posted by: blaster at July 09, 2020 12:10 PM (Ieq1i)

495 Washington Worriers ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at July 09, 2020 12:10 PM (0IMgo)

496 I still say the Redskins should keep the name and change their mascot to a potato.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at July 09, 2020 12:10 PM (Ve//x)

497 Oh, another Eagles player found saying more anti-Semitic b.s about the joooooos. So that's two we know of, and I assume far many more on that team agree with the thugs.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 09, 2020 12:10 PM (bkUtD)

498
They" are saying that the Washington football team is changing its name to the Warriors.
Posted by: blaster at July 09, 2020 12:07 PM (Ieq1i)

--------

So the SJWs get their own fucking NFL franchise now? What will the SJ Warriors mascot be? Trigglypuff?"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2020 12:10 PM (oJN+m)

499 Not too mention 'sacrificing millions" is a good description. The USSR threw away lives in suicide attacks with under-armed, untrained soldiers to wear down the Nazis. The attacks were a death sentence and commissars machine gunning their retreating soldiers is the only thing that kept the attacks going. They were much more worried about equipment than lives.


But yeah, heroic protectors of the proletariat.

Posted by: Ripley at July 09, 2020 11:57 AM (MxEKc)


So not to excuse the Soviet Union, because Fuck commies, but after listening to the Revolutions podcast covering events before 1906 and also after listening to stuff about how Tsarist Russia fought that war it almost seems like all this stuff is less Soviet Union methods and more just how Russia always worked. They loved sending political opponents off to Siberia. They didn't seem to care too much about how well armed their soldiers were in WW1.

The Soviets just seemed to take all those Russian policies and turn them up to eleven.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 09, 2020 12:10 PM (G2zl5)

500 How about Washington Whiteskins?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 09, 2020 12:11 PM (oVJmc)

501 The reason we are worried about Barr and the Prosecutions is that we all still see that as a Hail Mary pass that could help us in the fall elections, but it's coming too late to do any good.

Nonsense. The majority of people in the country don't even pay attention to the election until Labor Day. This hasn't changed in 100 years.

Plenty of time.
Posted by: JackStraw



Barr has 4 months to get convictions.

If Barr doesn't have convictions by November 3rd and Trump loses, it's all for naught.

Justice will be denied.

Kinda the reason people have been yelling for arrests and trial.

November isn't a given.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 12:11 PM (QFqpA)

502 Posted by: blaster at July 09, 2020 12:10 PM (Ieq1i)
********
PSSSSST Might wanna go read it Champ

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 12:11 PM (1Dmt5)

503 The Washington Custers.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at July 09, 2020 12:11 PM (Ve//x)

504 The Soviets just seemed to take all those Russian policies and turn them up to eleven.
Posted by: Buzzion at July 09, 2020 12:10 PM (G2zl5)


This is a true statement.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 09, 2020 12:12 PM (y7DUB)

505 co-workers this morning - all conservatives - are saying that they're hearing from everyone they deal with in the corporate world that we're going to be stuck in this mask and restriction bullshit for 2 more years now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 09, 2020 12:12 PM (Kpl3J)

506 ay, remember when all the NeverTrumper Twitter All-Star Geniuses vowed that the Circuit Court order would be slam-dunk reviewed en banc and overruled...? Say, Geniuses, that was 14 days ago... and there are mere hours before the order becomes final. Gee, what happened? You Twitter geniuses are so smart and always so confident in your bold manner of agreeing with everyone else on twitter....
Psst, do you think #Putin ordered the judges to #StandDown? Sounds like a winner of a conspiracy theory to me!
BTW: Robert Barnes (yeah I've been listening to him on Viva Frei a lot) said that the US District Court's order to Sullivan to dismiss the Flynn case only becomes a true order after fourteen days -- 14 days are granted to appeal the ruling, or for the court itself to schedule an en banc rehearing. He said it's completely normal for Sullivan to not do anything until those 14 days are up.
The Circuit Court ruling was made Wednesday, June 24th.
Those 14 days are up either tomorrow or Friday. (Do you count 14 days from the next full day or what? I dunno. I suspect you count from the next day.)
Anyway, corrupt incompetent Emmit Sullivan will be signing the order to dismiss the Flynn case either tomorrow or Friday, barring any 11th hour order from the court for an en banc rehearing.
BOLO tomorrow, JJ, OM, and CBD!

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 12:12 PM (1Dmt5)

507
Barr has 4 months to get convictions.



You don't even get a court date in 4 months.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 09, 2020 12:12 PM (oVJmc)

508 501 Barr has 4 months to get convictions.

If Barr doesn't have convictions by November 3rd and Trump loses, it's all for naught.

Justice will be denied.

Kinda the reason people have been yelling for arrests and trial.

November isn't a given.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 12:11 PM (QFqpA)

=========

Any convictions will get pardoned if Biden becomes president anyway.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 12:13 PM (LvTSG)

509 Washington Anti-semites

Posted by: azalea city at July 09, 2020 12:13 PM (WX+x0)

510 >>> 236 next step - if Muzzies want to say they will only live under Sh'aria, Supreme Court says fine, they will only answer to Sh'aria. Everybody gets to pick and choose what set of laws they want to recognize, and which they don't.
Posted by: Tom Servo


Hammurabi.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 11:10 AM


I propose Zoot and Dingo's Laws for the Proper Functioning of Castle Anthrax.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 09, 2020 12:13 PM (xGPKX)

511 PSSSSST Might wanna go read it Champ
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 12:11 PM (1Dmt5)


I get that he has time to do it yet, under the order. He is not required to wait the whole time.

THERE IS NO REASON IN THE WORLD THAT SULLIVAN COULD NOT HAVE FOLLOWED THE ORDER WITHIN 5 MINUTES OF ITS ISSUE.

#twoweeks have passed. He still hasn't.

What's that tell you? Champ.

Posted by: blaster at July 09, 2020 12:13 PM (Ieq1i)

512 Washington Anti-semites
Posted by: azalea city at July 09, 2020 12:13 PM (WX+x0)
+++++++++++
Washington BDSers

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 12:13 PM (hYcqw)

513 but it's coming too late to do any good.

And yet you'd be thrilled to see these things you have in mind next week, next month, October, and maybe even the week before the election.

In other words, it's not too late.

Posted by: t-bird at July 09, 2020 12:13 PM (KfC1e)

514 >>> events before 1906 and also after listening to stuff about how Tsarist Russia fought that war it almost seems like all this stuff is less Soviet Union methods and more just how Russia always worked



I've read a lot of books about Russian history, and this is spot on. Russia has been like this since before its founding. And even vaunted leaders like Peter the Great did some terrible things to the people, especially if they weren't the "right kind of people." Stalin was just memorable because of the body count.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 09, 2020 12:13 PM (bkUtD)

515 I do know, from past experience, this will likely be another torpedo that circles back on the dems

Posted by: RoyalOil



"You arrogant ass, Nadler! You've killed US!"

Posted by: Sharkman at July 09, 2020 12:13 PM (1YlHz)

516 "496 I still say the Redskins should keep the name and change their mascot to a potato.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at July 09, 2020 12:10 PM (Ve//x) "



That would actually be funny, plus infuriate all the right people ... but we don't seem to be able to have nice things.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at July 09, 2020 12:13 PM (0IMgo)

517 511 PSSSSST Might wanna go read it Champ
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 12:11 PM (1Dmt5)

I get that he has time to do it yet, under the order. He is not required to wait the whole time.

THERE IS NO REASON IN THE WORLD THAT SULLIVAN COULD NOT HAVE FOLLOWED THE ORDER WITHIN 5 MINUTES OF ITS ISSUE.

#twoweeks have passed. He still hasn't.

What's that tell you? Champ.
Posted by: blaster at July 09, 2020 12:13 PM (Ieq1i)

=========

I remember it being reported that Sullivan had 3 weeks to follow through on the order, not 2.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 12:14 PM (LvTSG)

518 Posted by: blaster at July 09, 2020 12:13 PM (Ieq1i)
************
Might wanna look above your ignorant post

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 12:14 PM (1Dmt5)

519 Washington BDSers

Capitol Karens.

Posted by: t-bird at July 09, 2020 12:14 PM (KfC1e)

520 So the SJWs get their own fucking NFL franchise now? What will the SJ Warriors mascot be? Trigglypuff?"
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 09, 2020 12:10 PM (oJN+m)

Tinky-Winky

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Ca at July 09, 2020 12:14 PM (xl+i8)

521 Went to collectors firearms mega store on Tuesday. Over priced on everything as usual and probably more so because of supply and demand. What I did note is that I was probably shopping with the same people that might be shooting at me later.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 09, 2020 12:14 PM (FeOTH)

522 BOLO tomorrow, JJ, OM, and CBD!
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 12:12 PM (1Dmt5)

Someone should put that in the sidebar or something.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 09, 2020 12:14 PM (Kpl3J)

523 >>Barr has 4 months to get convictions.

No, you are using the wrong metric. He has 4 months to get indictments.

The left never got a conviction against Trump before the election. All they did was leak information about Russia collusion. It was damaging. So was Comey's announcement of the reopening of the case against Hillary.

If you want to believe that the dementia patient sitting in his basement is leading Trump by double digits that's up to you. I think it's completely ludicrous.

The country just needs to be shown what happened in a clear and airtight fashion. That will be enough.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2020 12:14 PM (ZLI7S)

524
I have seen zero reason to believe Barr is a fraud and working for the deep state but if anyone has seen it please share.

Posted by: JackStraw


All well and good, but the election is in 117 days.

That's not a margin of error.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 09, 2020 12:14 PM (L6ZYH)

525 The Associated Press@AP
Still reeling from the coronavirus pandemic and protests over the George Floyd killing, cities around the nation are facing another challenge: a surge in shootings that has left dozens dead. Experts say the spike in violence defies easy explanation.

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The only solution is to take guns away from decent people.o

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 09, 2020 12:15 PM (+y/Ru)

526 Anyway, corrupt incompetent Emmit Sullivan will be signing the order to dismiss the Flynn case either tomorrow or Friday, barring any 11th hour order from the court for an en banc rehearing.
BOLO tomorrow, JJ, OM, and CBD!
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 12:12 PM (1Dmt5)


So what you are saying is that Sullivan will either dismiss the case or he won't.

Well, you have the bases covered.

Posted by: blaster at July 09, 2020 12:15 PM (Ieq1i)

527 HA! I go along with the Washington Scum.
Swamp Scum.

Posted by: Case at July 09, 2020 12:15 PM (aDSHr)

528 Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2020 11:50 AM (ZLI7S)

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Sorry, ran off for a work moment. I regard the Examiner as a NeverTrump site. So when Ghost linked there I went and read. He was wrong in his posted claim so I asked where he could cite further. He said Dobbs, so I went there and watched. Again, he was wrong.

As far as your lengthy complaint on being challenged by posters over your posts I can only say your repeated claims of imminent DOJ legal action over the last year or more made the mess you are bitching about and not me. Take it up with Jeff Sessions, John Huber or whomever else you have hoped for to act.


Like you, I hope (and now think) there may be some indictments. Where we differ is I don't know when those will occur. You'll recall before the 2018 midterms I was desperately hoping for something substantive from the DOJ, in order to save the GOP House majority. Did not happen. Now (two full years later) I am hoping for something to happen this summer or even in the fall. I still hope it happens. You are confident it will. Good for you.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at July 09, 2020 12:15 PM (NVYyb)

529 The country just needs to be shown what happened in a clear and airtight fashion. That will be enough.
Posted by: JackStraw



And you think that's justice?

Not jail time?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 12:16 PM (QFqpA)

530 Speaking of Bolos, found a machete I didn't know I owned. Saved me some money buying a new one.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 12:16 PM (ifmtJ)

531 Posted by: blaster at July 09, 2020 12:15 PM (Ieq1i)
*********
That was ace, Might wanna take it up with him

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 12:16 PM (1Dmt5)

532 The Associated Press@AP
Still reeling from the coronavirus pandemic and protests over the George Floyd killing, cities around the nation are facing another challenge: a surge in shootings that has left dozens dead. Experts say the spike in violence defies easy explanation.
...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 09, 2020 12:15 PM (+y/Ru)
++++++++++++
Really? No easy explanation? Massive civil unrest, rioting, police departments standing down and political cover for lawlessness and murder doesn't come to mind?

This is some weak sauce, NYT. It also reinforces the requirements for expertise. There are only two requirements to be an expert:
1) Carry a briefcase
2) Work at least 50 miles from home

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 12:16 PM (hYcqw)

533 THERE IS NO REASON IN THE WORLD THAT SULLIVAN COULD NOT HAVE FOLLOWED THE ORDER WITHIN 5 MINUTES OF ITS ISSUE.

Maybe not in this world...

Posted by: George Soros at July 09, 2020 12:16 PM (UMXod)

534 Pro Tip for today:

Don't believe a single word the MSM pumps out about Vance or Mazars. As noted above by many smarter than I, neither of these cases is a slam dunk win for the DemonRats.

Both will lead to months/years' more litigation and they'll both be in front of Our Black-Robed Masters long after Our 11/3/2020 Date with Destiny.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 09, 2020 12:16 PM (1YlHz)

535 "The Soviets just seemed to take all those Russian policies and turn them up to eleven.

Posted by: Buzzion"

Yep. I read great history of Peter the Great. The brutal way he dealt with his enemies, real or perceived,, makes Stalin pale in comparison.

Posted by: Ripley at July 09, 2020 12:17 PM (MxEKc)

536 >>>Speaking of Bolos, found a machete I didn't know I owned. Saved me some money buying a new one.



Danny Trejo approves.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 09, 2020 12:17 PM (bkUtD)

537 530 Speaking of Bolos, found a machete I didn't know I owned. Saved me some money buying a new one.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 12:16 PM (ifmtJ)

Sweet! I love blades...

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 09, 2020 12:17 PM (NWiLs)

538 490 "They" are saying that the Washington football team is changing its name to the Warriors.
Posted by: blaster at July 09, 2020 12:07 PM (Ieq1i)
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I dunno. Sounds like it glorifies violence to me. Be better, Washington Sports Franchise!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 12:09 PM

Funny- remember when they had to change the name of their basketball team from the Bullets to the Wizards because it was too realistic given all of the drug and gang violence?

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 09, 2020 12:18 PM (qe5CM)

539 I've read a lot of books about Russian history, and this is spot on. Russia has been like this since before its founding. And even vaunted leaders like Peter the Great did some terrible things to the people, especially if they weren't the "right kind of people." Stalin was just memorable because of the body count.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 09, 2020 12:13 PM (bkUtD)


Lenin controlled the cities but out in the sticks were like the wild West, where government apparatchiks were likely to be murdered by the peasants for fucking around with them. Koba said fuck that shit and dropped the hammer by starving them all, much more so than under Lenin, by expanding the police state quickly.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 09, 2020 12:18 PM (y7DUB)

540
...cities around the nation are facing another challenge: a surge in shootings that has left dozens dead. Experts say the spike in violence defies easy explanation.

lack of presence from a marginalized police department that the public is openly hostile towards has nothing to do with it, I'm sure

it must be the gun show loop-hole

/sarc

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 09, 2020 12:19 PM (DUIap)

541 510 >>> 236 next step - if Muzzies want to say they will only live under Sh'aria, Supreme Court says fine, they will only answer to Sh'aria. Everybody gets to pick and choose what set of laws they want to recognize, and which they don't.
Posted by: Tom Servo


Hammurabi.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 11:10 AM


I propose Zoot and Dingo's Laws for the Proper Functioning of Castle Anthrax.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 09, 2020 12:13 PM (xGPKX)

I'm still waiting for the argument that Muslims are being denied their "Free Exercise" of their religion by not being allowed to force Shari'ah onto the entire country.

Posted by: Allie at July 09, 2020 12:19 PM (vmRc0)

542 Just got back online.

A big line of thunderstorms last night knocked out power and the internet.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 09, 2020 12:19 PM (u82oZ)

543 >>As far as your lengthy complaint on being challenged by posters over your posts I can only say your repeated claims of imminent DOJ legal action over the last year or more made the mess you are bitching about and not me. Take it up with Jeff Sessions, John Huber or whomever else you have hoped for to act.

It wasn't a lengthy complaint it was asking you for some basis for your years long negativity. I guess there isn't one.

There has been action against the DOJ it just doesn't satisfy you. Everyone associated with the coup has been removed and some are under criminal investigation. I am constantly told here the process is part of the punishment but I guess that only applies to people on our side. Clearly, none of the coup plotters are hiring lawyers or being inconvenience its the least.

People continue to work and just because the media shockingly doesn't cover it you assume nothing is happening. I look for other sources and find things are indeed happening. To each his own.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2020 12:19 PM (ZLI7S)

544 Amazon removing all Redskins merch asap. You will be made to care.



I do like how the left is canceling Native Americans, and removing
their name, logos, etc. I guess they don't realize canceling Native
Americans used to be seen as racist.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 09, 2020 12:03 PM (bkUtD)


Are they going to do the same with the Braves, Chiefs, Indians, Blackhawks and any other teams named for Injuns? And while they're at it get rid of the Vikings, Celtics, Fighting Irish

Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 09, 2020 12:20 PM (4pDXC)

545 No, you are using the wrong metric. He has 4 months to get indictments.

Posted by: JackStraw


Any indictment in the next 117 will be tossed if Trump loses and you know it.

Just stop. You're looking like a fucking idiot now.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 09, 2020 12:20 PM (L6ZYH)

546 - --
Sweet! I love blades...

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 09, 2020 12:17 PM
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----

Which was your favorite?

Posted by: Wesley Snipes at July 09, 2020 12:20 PM (RVcmP)

547 Be better, Washington Sports Franchise!

The Washington Consensus. It will take them four years to call their first play.

Posted by: t-bird at July 09, 2020 12:20 PM (z36Kd)

548 Ghost, if you're going to copy and paste a previous post you should at least cop to it.

Posted by: creeper at July 09, 2020 12:20 PM (XxJt1)

549 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 09, 2020 12:20 PM (u82oZ)

550 538
490 "They" are saying that the Washington football team is changing its name to the Warriors.

Posted by: blaster at July 09, 2020 12:07 PM (Ieq1i)

+++++++++++

I dunno. Sounds like it glorifies violence to me. Be better, Washington Sports Franchise!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 09, 2020 12:09 PM



Funny- remember when they had to change the name of their basketball
team from the Bullets to the Wizards because it was too realistic given
all of the drug and gang violence?

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 09, 2020 12:18 PM (qe5CM)

Clank clank clank clank.....Warrriorsssssss Come out and play. clank clank clank clank WARRIORS come out and PLAY-YEA

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 09, 2020 12:20 PM (Pbrcu)

551 >>>Lenin controlled the cities but out in the sticks were like the wild West, where government apparatchiks were likely to be murdered by the peasants for fucking around with them.


Partially why those people ratted out the apparatchiks and cooperated with the Nazis. They figured the Nazis would have ruled better than Stalin.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 09, 2020 12:20 PM (bkUtD)

552 Don Lemon: Jesus Was Not Perfect When He Was Here On Earth

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He didn't burn or loot a single store!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 09, 2020 10:41 AM (+y/Ru)

Let he who has not cast a stone be the first to sin.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 09, 2020 12:21 PM (LxTcq)

553 creeper

Please check your spam traps. Sent you a message Sunday.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 09, 2020 12:21 PM (u82oZ)

554 Fox Headline:

Durham may punt until after election.

There you have it folks.

Posted by: WisRich at July 09, 2020 12:21 PM (G0vdT)

555
Are they going to do the same with the Braves, Chiefs, Indians, Blackhawks and any other teams named for Injuns? And while they're at it get rid of the Vikings, Celtics, Fighting Irish
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 09, 2020 12:20 PM (4pDXC

Shouldn't the City of Seattle be renamed?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 09, 2020 12:21 PM (LAwW8)

556 I still say the Redskins should keep the name and change their mascot to a potato.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at July 09, 2020 12:10 PM


That would be hilarious.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 09, 2020 12:21 PM (ejd/p)

557 Hi, Salty. Sorry about your lack of power but thanks for sending the rain on down.

Posted by: creeper at July 09, 2020 12:22 PM (XxJt1)

558 >>And you think that's justice?

>>Not jail time?

If you want to believe Biden is going to win be my guest. As I said, iff you want to believe the dementia patient sitting in his basement is crushing Trump, have at it. I think Trump is going to win pretty handily.

And then the prosecutions can continue.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2020 12:22 PM (ZLI7S)

559 Are they going to do the same with the Braves, Chiefs, Indians, Blackhawks and any other teams named for Injuns?

And then they'll come for the Cowboys. The Idaho Vandals will be ok.

Posted by: t-bird at July 09, 2020 12:22 PM (z36Kd)

560 >>Are they going to do the same with the Braves, Chiefs, Indians, Blackhawks and any other teams named for Injuns? And while they're at it get rid of the Vikings, Celtics, Fighting Irish



How about Google-partner YouTube channel THE YOUNG TURKS?!?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2020 12:22 PM (bDqIh)

561 553 creeper

Please check your spam traps. Sent you a message Sunday.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 09, 2020 12:21 PM (u82oZ)

It's Spam season already?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 09, 2020 12:22 PM (NWiLs)

562 Posted by: Captain Hate at July 09, 2020 12:18 PM (y7D

Really good Russian movie with John Malkovich about that. Can't recall the name as it has two because of American release.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 09, 2020 12:22 PM (FeOTH)

563 {{{.creeper.}}}

Can I please, pretty please, don't make me beg, have an 8 x 10 glossy of your "Victory" picture?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 09, 2020 12:22 PM (u82oZ)

564 Durham may punt until after election.

There you have it folks.

Will Trump? Supposedly he has all the goods and has said he will release them... We shall see

Posted by: It's me donna at July 09, 2020 12:22 PM (Zmnko)

565 556 I still say the Redskins should keep the name and change their mascot to a potato.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at July 09, 2020 12:10 PM

That would be hilarious.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 09, 2020 12:21 PM (ejd/p)

==========

"We find this offensive on the part of the Irish."
-Non-Irish White Women

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 12:22 PM (LvTSG)

566 Yep. I read great history of Peter the Great. The brutal way he dealt with his enemies, real or perceived,, makes Stalin pale in comparison.
Posted by: Ripley at July 09, 2020 12:17 PM (MxEKc)


Except Peter the Great as a child watched his entire family get slaughtered in the Kremlin except for his bitch sister. I'm not saying it turned him into a hardass but he tortured and killed every fucking one of them by the time he was 18.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 09, 2020 12:22 PM (y7DUB)

567 537 530 Speaking of Bolos, found a machete I didn't know I owned. Saved me some money buying a new one.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 12:16 PM (ifmtJ)

Sweet! I love blades...
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 09, 2020 12:17 PM (NWiLs)

Brother, do I have a collection. I don't get to practice as much as I used to since leaving the SCA.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 12:22 PM (ifmtJ)

568 Don Lemon: Jesus Was Not Perfect When He Was Here On Earth

Why would someone as stupid as him pontificate about that?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 09, 2020 12:22 PM (LAwW8)

569 Posted by: creeper at July 09, 2020 12:20 PM (XxJt1)
******
I told the Duncew that ace had it in sidebar & then I posted it !!! WTFF do you want me to do Set off a fucking daisy cutter

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 12:23 PM (1Dmt5)

570 Come see our sportzball struggle session against the our arch rival, wreckers and looters the Dallas Cowpeople.

Posted by: Washington Red Guards at July 09, 2020 12:23 PM (Pbrcu)

571 Dallas cowboys that's a no go also. Make it the Dallas Jerrys.

Posted by: azalea city at July 09, 2020 12:23 PM (WX+x0)

572 The NY Times tries to sly suggest that the SCOTUS ordered Trump to give up his finances to the NY - but that of course is not what happened. Only after reading down a few paragraphs does the Slimes sort of, kind of admit that Trump just has to the answer the subpoena and show the reasons why he isn't giving his up finances...not that CJ Roberts just ordered up a copy for the NY Times OpEd pages.

Posted by: Boswell at July 09, 2020 12:23 PM (32YRo)

573 Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo

In certain parts of the UK it is Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Eggs and Ham season all year long.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 09, 2020 12:23 PM (u82oZ)

574 505 co-workers this morning - all conservatives - are saying that they're hearing from everyone they deal with in the corporate world that we're going to be stuck in this mask and restriction bullshit for 2 more years now.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 09, 2020 12:12 PM (Kpl3J)

Trump needs to UNDECLARE the National Emergency.

Death rate is way down. We've flattened the curve.

open up.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 09, 2020 12:23 PM (NgKpN)

575 I got it, Salty. Been so wrapped up in a court case I haven't replied yet. Will do that today.

Posted by: creeper at July 09, 2020 12:23 PM (XxJt1)

576 When a slam dunk case like the Strzok texts, Clinton's servers, and such has yet to see the inside of a courtroom....exhortations to simply be patient and rely on secret grand juries and some Huber guy come off as very hollow.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at July 09, 2020 12:24 PM (Ve//x)

577 Partially why those people ratted out the apparatchiks and cooperated with the Nazis. They figured the Nazis would have ruled better than Stalin.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 09, 2020 12:20 PM (bkUtD)


The story of the Bloodlands.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 09, 2020 12:24 PM (y7DUB)

578 We'll never change the name. It's that simple -- NEVER. You can use all caps.

Posted by: Dan Snyder circa 2013 at July 09, 2020 12:24 PM (2M/TV)

579 I always have a hard time with the WW2 Eastern Front battles.

No good guys to root for.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 12:24 PM (ifmtJ)

580 Lenin controlled the cities but out in the sticks
were like the wild West, where government apparatchiks were likely to be
murdered by the peasants for fucking around with them.





Partially why those people ratted out the apparatchiks and
cooperated with the Nazis. They figured the Nazis would have ruled
better than Stalin.


Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 09, 2020 12:20 PM

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If it wasn't for the ss and the gestapo messing around in the conquered parts of Russia, the peasants would have backed hitler over stalin and the partisans would not have been able to operate behind the lines freeing up about 10 German Divisions that were tied up fighting them.


The regular Army units let them openly worship again and gave them pretty much free reign to go about their business.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 09, 2020 12:24 PM (JUOKG)

581 Fox Headline:

Durham may punt until after election.

There you have it folks.
Posted by: WisRich at July 09, 2020 12:21 PM (G0vdT)
*********
Because FUX News & their Leadership is solidly Pro Trump

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 12:24 PM (1Dmt5)

582 >> I still say the Redskins should keep the name and change their mascot to a potato.


Totally agree, because FU whiners.

They could have a lot of fun w/it, such as "mash the competition" "MVS - Most Valuable Spud for the game, etc.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2020 12:24 PM (bDqIh)

583 creeper

Whew! Was a tad worried.

Prayers ascending for you and your court case.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 09, 2020 12:24 PM (u82oZ)

584 579 I always have a hard time with the WW2 Eastern Front battles.

No good guys to root for.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 12:24 PM (ifmtJ)

=========

I got Come and See in the mail the other day.

Haven't seen it in a while. Needs a rewatch.

I should invite the two kiddies to watch with me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 12:25 PM (LvTSG)

585 Peter the Great as a child watched his entire family get slaughtered in the Kremlin except for his bitch sister. I'm not saying it turned him into a hardass but he tortured and killed every fucking one of them by the time he was 18.
Posted by: Captain Hate

And they call Ivan Terrible!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 09, 2020 12:25 PM (+y/Ru)

586 co-workers this morning - all conservatives - are saying that they're hearing from everyone they deal with in the corporate world that we're going to be stuck in this mask and restriction psy-ops bullshit for 2 more years now.
Posted by: Tom Servo


Fixt.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 12:25 PM (QFqpA)

587 569 Posted by: creeper at July 09, 2020 12:20 PM (XxJt1)
******
I told the Duncew that ace had it in sidebar & then I posted it !!! WTFF do you want me to do Set off a fucking daisy cutter
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at July 09, 2020 12:23 PM (1Dmt5)

You have one one those?

Can I rent it? I know a section of Seattle that needs some urban renewal.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 12:25 PM (ifmtJ)

588 I remember it being reported that Sullivan had 3 weeks to follow through on the order, not 2.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 12:14 PM (LvTSG)

we were discussing this yesterday, I tried to find the exact post, but the rules governing this are incredibly complex. One of the posters said she once did a seminar on Time Limits for certain actions, and it took 17 slides to explain them all. Then they cleaned them up and clarified the rules, and it only took 18 slides.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 09, 2020 12:25 PM (Kpl3J)

589 >>>It looks like the police did follow procedures, so Kieth Ellison will have a real hard time making the charges stick.

He doesn't wan't the charges to stick! He wants to lose. He's throwing the case to cause more racial division and rioting!

Posted by: Max Power at July 09, 2020 12:25 PM (q177U)

590 Sweet! I love blades...
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 09, 2020 12:17 PM (NWiLs)

Brother, do I have a collection. I don't get to practice as much as I used to since leaving the SCA.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 12:22 PM (ifmtJ)

Ditto, although me and a few of the other Black Tigers still get together to dance at times.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 09, 2020 12:26 PM (NgKpN)

591 The Soviets just seemed to take all those Russian policies and turn them up to eleven.
Posted by: Buzzion at July 09, 2020 12:10 PM (G2zl5)


I forget whether it was Nicholas' father or his grandfather, I think it was the grandfather who was assassinated. Commies or anarchist or whatever.

And then if it was his grandfather, his father died fairly young, so Nicholas became Tsar much sooner than anyone expected.

If you measure Tsars on a scale of 1 to 10, regarding how much disdain they have for the common man, some of the earlier ones were at a 9 or a 10. Nicholas was probably about a 4-5.

It just isn't in the nature of MOST autocratic societies to care much about the little guy. The extent to which they do is what can be surprising.

Compared to the Soviets though, the Tsars for the most part were saints.

Which so happens to be the point. A Tsar saw himself as anointed by God to rule, and TRIED to do so as benevolently as possible. But being human... yeah, it didn't usually work out that way. The Soviets and commies in general are a lie from the start. They have contempt and hatred for the ruled, and slather them with flowery language to the contrary.

It's an evil that is not at all the equivalent of kings and emperors and Tsars because it is godless.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 09, 2020 12:26 PM (hku12)

592 Would the Dallas Animal Husbands be problematic?

Actually, if Jerry were to cave, the Dallas Cowherds would be appropriate, if it's pronounced the way I think it's pronounced.

Posted by: t-bird at July 09, 2020 12:26 PM (UMXod)

593 544 Are they going to do the same with the Braves, Chiefs, Indians, Blackhawks and any other teams named for Injuns? And while they're at it get rid of the Vikings, Celtics, Fighting Irish
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 09, 2020 12:20 PM (4pDXC)

Not the Irish!

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Ca at July 09, 2020 12:26 PM (xl+i8)

594 >>>Are they going to do the same with the Braves, Chiefs, Indians, Blackhawks and any other teams named for Injuns?



Blackhawks already said LOLGF. They aren't bending the knee.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 09, 2020 12:26 PM (bkUtD)

595 I always have a hard time with the WW2 Eastern Front battles.

No good guys to root for.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards


Always root for both to lose.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 12:26 PM (QFqpA)

596 I still say the Redskins should keep the name and change their mascot to a potato.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn.


Works pretty well for the Ridgefield WA High School Spudders!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 09, 2020 12:26 PM (axyOa)

597 It looks like the police did follow procedures, so Kieth Ellison will have a real hard time making the charges stick.



He doesn't wan't the charges to stick! He wants to lose. He's throwing the case to cause more racial division and rioting!


Posted by: Max Power at July 09, 2020 12:25 PM

---

They need to wait until the week before the election to drop the charges.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 09, 2020 12:26 PM (JUOKG)

598 584 579 I always have a hard time with the WW2 Eastern Front battles.

No good guys to root for.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 12:24 PM (ifmtJ)

=========

I got Come and See in the mail the other day.

Haven't seen it in a while. Needs a rewatch.

I should invite the two kiddies to watch with me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 12:25 PM (LvTSG)

Hmm. Let me know what you think about it. Hadn't heard of that flick.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 12:27 PM (ifmtJ)

599 523---The country just needs to be shown what happened in a clear and airtight fashion. That will be enough.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2020 12:14 PM (ZLI7S)
-----------------------------------------
There's only one problem.
Who is going to show "the country" anything?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 09, 2020 12:27 PM (M/9m0)

600 563
{{{.creeper.}}}



Can I please, pretty please, don't make me beg, have an 8 x 10 glossy of your "Victory" picture?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 09, 2020 12:22 PM (u82oZ)

Only if you print it off the secure webpage I expect it to be stashed on.

Anyway, how did you find out? You weren't here when I took leave of my senses.

Posted by: creeper at July 09, 2020 12:27 PM (XxJt1)

601 Are they going to do the same with the Braves, Chiefs, Indians, Blackhawks and any other teams named for Injuns? And while they're at it get rid of the Vikings, Celtics, Fighting Irish
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 09, 2020 12:20 PM (4pDXC)

Not the Irish!
Posted by: Anonymous Guy


Notre Dame Drunken Midgets

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 12:27 PM (QFqpA)

602 we're going to be stuck in this mask and restriction bullshit for 2 more years now

That is wonderful news!

Posted by: A Scold of Karens at July 09, 2020 12:27 PM (EgshT)

603 >>>I'm not saying it turned him into a hardass but he tortured and killed every fucking one of them by the time he was 18.


Which, thinking back, was awesome. History Channel ran a miniseries called Russia: Land of the Tsars. It's very good, and touched on the entire history of Russia.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 09, 2020 12:28 PM (bkUtD)

604 It looks like the police did follow procedures, so Kieth Ellison will have a real hard time making the charges stick.

He doesn't wan't the charges to stick! He wants to lose. He's throwing the case to cause more racial division and rioting!
Posted by: Max Power at July 09, 2020 12:25 PM (q177U)


If you want to win a case, having Keith X in charge wouldn't be your first option.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 09, 2020 12:28 PM (y7DUB)

605 I hit the tip jar for ya, Ace. Saw the SF assholes are costing ya advertisers.

Posted by: IP at July 09, 2020 12:28 PM (YBPLV)

606 Seoul Mayor found dead. Perhaps related to sexual harass allegations recently leveled against him?

Posted by: Baldy at July 09, 2020 12:28 PM (OLCH5)

607 The Dallas Cowpies

Posted by: Chris M at July 09, 2020 12:28 PM (eAZVt)

608 he country just needs to be shown what happened in a clear and airtight fashion. That will be enough.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2020 12:14 PM (ZLI7S)
-----------------------------------------
There's only one problem.
Who is going to show "the country" anything?
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 09, 2020 12:27 PM (M/9m0)

That's my concern.
Forget about wide coverage--will the even report it?

Trump's brilliant Mt. Rushmore speech was barely carried and hardly commented upon.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 09, 2020 12:28 PM (gtdYu)

609 595 I always have a hard time with the WW2 Eastern Front battles.

No good guys to root for.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards


Always root for both to lose.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 12:26 PM (QFqpA)

Well they kinda did.

I hate Communists and Nazis. But I kinda like Russians and some of the Heer were just brilliant.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 12:29 PM (ifmtJ)

610 598 I got Come and See in the mail the other day.

Haven't seen it in a while. Needs a rewatch.

I should invite the two kiddies to watch with me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 12:25 PM (LvTSG)

Hmm. Let me know what you think about it. Hadn't heard of that flick.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 12:27 PM (ifmtJ)

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I've seen it once, a few years back, and it's one of those experience movies. It really takes you into the hell of fighting for the Soviets against the Nazis through the eyes of a young man. It's hypnotic and horrifying in equal measure.

There are heavy Tarkovsky influences, though it moves much faster. It's pretty easily one of the best movies made in the Soviet Union.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 12:29 PM (LvTSG)

611 58 Don Lemon: Jesus Was Not Perfect When He Was Here On Earth

-
He didn't burn or loot a single store!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 09, 2020 10:41 AM (+y/Ru)

Huh.
I don't go to Little Donnie Lemondrop for news, opinion, commentary, or theology.

Posted by: Flyover at July 09, 2020 12:29 PM (Rbu5d)

612 Peter the Great as a child watched his entire family get slaughtered in the Kremlin except for his bitch sister. I'm not saying it turned him into a hardass but he tortured and killed every fucking one of them by the time he was 18.
Posted by: Captain Hate

And they call Ivan Terrible!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 09, 2020 12:25 PM (+y/Ru)


Pete was the man. Sure, he was unfair to his brother... half brother(?), who should have been next in line, but the brother was an imbecile.

Pete took care of business, and miraculously forced a backwards third world shithole to become something approximating a civilized state.

For a while, at least.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 09, 2020 12:29 PM (hku12)

613 The country just needs to be shown what happened in a clear and airtight fashion. That will be enough.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2020 12:14 PM (ZLI7S)
-----------------------------------------
There's only one problem.
Who is going to show "the country" anything?
Posted by: Margarita DeVille


Two problems.

You have to show half the country, the half that doesn't care, and make them care.

Jail terms do that.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 09, 2020 12:29 PM (QFqpA)

614 I got Come and See in the mail the other day.

Haven't seen it in a while. Needs a rewatch.

I should invite the two kiddies to watch with me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 12:25 PM (LvTSG)

'Come and See' is one of those films you watch once, recognize it's a great film in all aspects, and never want to see again.

Posted by: troyriser at July 09, 2020 12:30 PM (xeeMq)

615 So, if Geronimo enlisted into the 101st Airborne, would he shout "MEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!" after he jumps out the door?
Posted by: Tonypete at July 09, 2020 11:21 AM


Didn't they do that gag in Hot Shots? Part 1 or Deux. I forget.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 09, 2020 12:30 PM (ejd/p)

616 Seoul Mayor found dead. Perhaps related to sexual harass allegations recently leveled against him?
Posted by: Baldy at July 09, 2020 12:28 PM (OLCH5)

They still have a tradition of integrity and honor there.

Unlike here.

Right Brennan? Comey?
Clapper?

Posted by: JoeF. at July 09, 2020 12:30 PM (gtdYu)

617 >>>Pete took care of business, and miraculously forced a backwards third world shithole to become something approximating a civilized state.



Dude whipped Sweden's ass, and King Charles was a Scandinavian warlord at the time.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 09, 2020 12:30 PM (bkUtD)

618 612 Pete was the man. Sure, he was unfair to his brother... half brother(?), who should have been next in line, but the brother was an imbecile.

Pete took care of business, and miraculously forced a backwards third world shithole to become something approximating a civilized state.

For a while, at least.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 09, 2020 12:29 PM (hku12)

=========

An interesting bit from the movie Nicholas and Alexandra was Nicholas' mother telling him that Russia was a 17th century country lost in the 19th century.

It seems like Russia doesn't really like to move, but when it does it does so very violently.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 12:30 PM (LvTSG)

619 Peter the Great as a child watched his entire family get slaughtered in the Kremlin except for his bitch sister. I'm not saying it turned him into a hardass but he tortured and killed every fucking one of them by the time he was 18.
Posted by: Captain Hate

Brutal film of a Nazi extermination squad's attack on a village and the aftermath.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 09, 2020 12:30 PM (+y/Ru)

620 614 I got Come and See in the mail the other day.

Haven't seen it in a while. Needs a rewatch.

I should invite the two kiddies to watch with me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 12:25 PM (LvTSG)

'Come and See' is one of those films you watch once, recognize it's a great film in all aspects, and never want to see again.
Posted by: troyriser at July 09, 2020 12:30 PM (xeeMq)

Ah. Gotcha.

Seen flicks like that before.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 09, 2020 12:31 PM (ifmtJ)

621 Peter the Great liked Western Science, and he also liked doing executions himself. Once, and I think this exhibits his character perfectly, he had just chopped off the head of one of his ex-mistresses, and he picked up the head and gave a biology lecture to the notables gathered for the event on the relationship of the windpipe and the spinal column in the neck, since it was all exposed to view.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 09, 2020 12:31 PM (Kpl3J)

622 614 I got Come and See in the mail the other day.

Haven't seen it in a while. Needs a rewatch.

I should invite the two kiddies to watch with me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 12:25 PM (LvTSG)

'Come and See' is one of those films you watch once, recognize it's a great film in all aspects, and never want to see again.
Posted by: troyriser at July 09, 2020 12:30 PM (xeeMq)

==========

I can't wait to watch it again.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 12:31 PM (LvTSG)

623 Interesting deaths of rulers. how about Alexander I of Serbia? I found out about this one from a book on the run up to WWI.

https://tinyurl.com/ydxr2hjz

Seems they did not like his choice of wife (a floozy) and he was also an asshoe.

Posted by: notsothoreau at July 09, 2020 12:31 PM (JKNZq)

624 I don't see any chatter on Techno_Fog, Sydney Powell, Brian Cates, Undercover Huber, or Gen. Flynn that suggests they're waiting for something today.

Don't know when it's supposed to be.

This "Operation Legend" that Barr announced yesterday is interesting. Kansas City?! DaFuq?!

Posted by: t-bird at July 09, 2020 12:31 PM (UMXod)

625 582 >> I still say the Redskins should keep the name and change their mascot to a potato.

Totally agree, because FU whiners.

They could have a lot of fun w/it, such as "mash the competition" "MVS - Most Valuable Spud for the game, etc.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2020 12:24 PM

Stop oppressing and tokenizing my people!

Posted by: Tater Stelter at July 09, 2020 12:32 PM (RwXje)

626 New news, Bernie as Bidet's Veep. You heard it here first.
Posted by: runner at July 09, 2020 11:48 AM (tQASX)

Only if he's in blackface, and wears a dress.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 09, 2020 11:54 AM (Kpl3J)

well, it worked in VA...

Posted by: SturmToddler at July 09, 2020 12:32 PM (8D42x)

627 >>>Ah. Gotcha.

Seen flicks like that before.



Like Paul Blart Mall Cop.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 09, 2020 12:32 PM (bkUtD)

628 nood, yall

Posted by: BignJames at July 09, 2020 12:32 PM (X/Pw5)

629 I got an uneducated hunch that Thomas is dead on with this one:

This case is baloney, because Congress has no right to subpoena ANYONE's taxes. Not just the President.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 09, 2020 12:32 PM (6FeV1)

630 I took a peak at "Drudge', couldnt help it...
red bloodbath of course...

Posted by: McCool at July 09, 2020 12:32 PM (9X4u5)

631 626 New news, Bernie as Bidet's Veep. You heard it here first.
Posted by: runner at July 09, 2020 11:48 AM (tQASX)

Only if he's in blackface, and wears a dress.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 09, 2020 11:54 AM (Kpl3J)

well, it worked in VA...
Posted by: SturmToddler at July 09, 2020 12:32 PM (8D42x)

=======

Well, once they realized that by actually applying their own standards to the Democratic leadership they would be handing power to Republicans it all kind of disappeared.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 12:32 PM (LvTSG)

632 New news, Bernie as Bidet's Veep. You heard it here first.




Posted by: runner at July 09, 2020 11:48 AM

---

Well they are jointly writing the dnc's platform positions.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 09, 2020 12:33 PM (JUOKG)

633 Which, thinking back, was awesome. History Channel ran a miniseries called Russia: Land of the Tsars. It's very good, and touched on the entire history of Russia.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 09, 2020 12:28 PM (bkUtD)


The battles between the Rooskis, Poles, Lithuanians and Ukrainians were fascinating things with borders shifting constantly. Russia was obviously the big dawg but was always having to concentrate on the hot spot of the day.

There's a big Lithuanian community around where a couple of my buds live. Solid people who hate the commies.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 09, 2020 12:33 PM (y7DUB)

634 >>Stop oppressing and tokenizing my people!


Later, Tater!!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 09, 2020 12:33 PM (bDqIh)

635 Seoul Mayor found dead. Perhaps related to sexual harass allegations recently leveled against him?
Posted by: Baldy at July 09, 2020 12:28 PM (OLCH5)


Yessss, naturo causes. That's what it was.

No, my sisteh was not in Seoul recentry, why do you ask?

Posted by: NK Kim at July 09, 2020 12:34 PM (hku12)

636 Compared to the Soviets though, the Tsars for the most part were saints.

Which so happens to be the point. A Tsar saw himself as anointed by God to rule, and TRIED to do so as benevolently as possible. But being human... yeah, it didn't usually work out that way. The Soviets and commies in general are a lie from the start. They have contempt and hatred for the ruled, and slather them with flowery language to the contrary.

It's an evil that is not at all the equivalent of kings and emperors and Tsars because it is godless.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 09, 2020 12:26 PM (hku12)

There was at least the faint glimmer of Christian mercy
under the Tsars.
Not so with the godless commies.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 09, 2020 12:34 PM (gtdYu)

637
I hate Communists and Nazis. But I kinda like Russians and some of the Heer were just brilliant.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards


Not sure what's brilliant about having a 1000 mile kulak cushion and

* checks notes *

winter.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 09, 2020 12:35 PM (L6ZYH)

638 Pete was the man. Sure, he was unfair to his brother... half brother(?), who should have been next in line, but the brother was an imbecile.

Pete took care of business, and miraculously forced a backwards third world shithole to become something approximating a civilized state.

For a while, at least.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 09, 2020 12:29 PM (hku12)


He was determined to make a backward Asian country more in step with European culture. That wasn't a universally popular move.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 09, 2020 12:36 PM (y7DUB)

639 I got Come and See in the mail the other day.

Haven't seen it in a while. Needs a rewatch.

I should invite the two kiddies to watch with me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,


Not a kids movie unless you really, really hate them.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 09, 2020 12:36 PM (L6ZYH)

640 >>There's only one problem.
Who is going to show "the country" anything?

If that's the case then timing is irrelevant.

But I think when indictments are returned and the Russia hoax is obliterated once and for all it will be tough to ignore. Pretty sure Trump will mention it once or twice.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 09, 2020 12:36 PM (ZLI7S)

641 new thread up

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 09, 2020 12:37 PM (L6ZYH)

642 Interesting deaths of rulers. how about Alexander I of Serbia? I found out about this one from a book on the run up to WWI.

https://tinyurl.com/ydxr2hjz

Seems they did not like his choice of wife (a floozy) and he was also an asshoe.
Posted by: notsothoreau at July 09, 2020 12:31 PM (JKNZq)

You should read The Sleepwalkers, by Christopher Clark.
It's about the run-up to WW1, but it begins with this event, brilliantly rendered.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 09, 2020 12:37 PM (gtdYu)

643 639 I got Come and See in the mail the other day.

Haven't seen it in a while. Needs a rewatch.

I should invite the two kiddies to watch with me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

Not a kids movie unless you really, really hate them.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 09, 2020 12:36 PM (L6ZYH)

==========

I gotta introduce them to evil at some point.

Why not 6 years for one and 8 months for the other?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 09, 2020 12:37 PM (LvTSG)

644 Ghost, I did not realize your post to the comment section was a repeat of the sidebar. I was remembering it as a comment yesterday. It's not on any of the remaining threads from yesterday, so my apologies. I'll try to be better.

Posted by: creeper at July 09, 2020 12:38 PM (XxJt1)

645 I gotta introduce them to evil at some point.

Why not 6 years for one and 8 months for the other?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,


Jeezus, start with Charlotte's Web first.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 09, 2020 12:40 PM (L6ZYH)

646 Because they've done such a good job with the rest of their holdings...
Posted by: garrett at July 09, 2020 10:51 AM (IdFgk)


Winning America back one nickel at a time!

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 09, 2020 12:54 PM (z79tQ)

647 Way late to this thread, but I just wanted to point out that what this ruling means is that we should only run Republican candidates from solidly red states

Posted by: Methos at July 09, 2020 01:03 PM (kOpft)

648 Bullshit.Just wait until a Republican DA tries to get the tax returns of a Democrat President.

Posted by: West at July 09, 2020 01:09 PM (iIW03)

649 God damn the filthy Jews to hell for what Jews have done to this world!!!

Posted by: Mark Matis at July 09, 2020 01:53 PM (nZJej)

650 330 333 I might as well just start making content and let her catch up.


I'll watch if she shows bewb.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 09, 2020 11:29 AM (gd9RK)

=======

She is pretty hot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield

I've seen that type. Hot, but couldn't be bothered.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn DA 1977 at July 09, 2020 01:58 PM (kfcYC)

651 292
>>The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that the eastern half of Oklahoma can be considered Native American territory
We can finally start re-introducing the plains crabs!
Posted by: Elizabeth Warren at July 09, 2020 11:20 AM (PpKsN)
And the buffalo if the white man hadn't killed them all off in the 19th century.


Come to Kansas - We have buffalo.

Posted by: River Commander at July 09, 2020 02:04 PM (RX/Rl)

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