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Sunday Morning Book Thread 07-05-2020
Österreichische Nationalbibliothek, Vienna, Austria
Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, crétins sans pantalon (who are technically breaking the rules), and you deplorables who just want to be left alone, only you're slowly coming to the realization that Your Betters are not going to allow you to be left alone, even those who claim to be on your side. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, snark, witty repartee, hilarious bon mots, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, spending way too much money on books, writing books, and publishing books by escaped oafs and oafettes who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these these pants, which look like they might be functional for something, but I'm not sure what. Wait, I know. If you suffer from nocturnal incontinence, these are the pants for you.
Pic Note: Yes, this is a repeat library, (for previous pics see this thread and that thread) but I found this photo and thought wow, the Horde has got to see this. I mean, that ceiling. Wow.
It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®
More on Owning Books A couple of weeks ago, I discussed ways by which readers can secure ownership of their e-books, and by ownership, I mean true ownership, the kind where your book can never be stealth-edited or confiscated. 'Ette author/publisher Gunnar Grey e-mailed more thoughts on this topic:
There is one certain way to ensure you own the ebooks you buy, and that's by purchasing them through Smashwords. Like Baen Books, Smashwords sells ebooks without DRM encryption, and while they only carry about half of the books that Amazon and the other big sellers carry, and you do have to load your own ebooks into your reader — once you load it, it's yours.Yes, I had forgotten about Smashwords, an excellent alternative to Amazon, assuming they have what you want. Of course, once you purchase an ebook from Smashwords, you need to side-load it onto your device. Ms. Grey's instructions are more helpful than mine were:
To my knowledge, which isn't complete, Smashwords is the only ebook seller set up this way.
For most e-readers, loading an ebook is as simple as plugging it into your computer. It turns into an external hard drive, similar to a flash drive, and you can drag and drop the ebook. It's no different than loading a book from Gutenberg (and I have a lot of those). You do need to figure out where on that e-reader, or into which folder, the ebook should be dropped, but the titles of the files in the folder should guide you there.Physical books are great, only they are susceptible from damage due to fire, water, pests, and age-related deterioration. Also confiscation, So a little Binging or Googling to find out where the book folders are on your device. And invest in a USB cable.
Who Dis:
(Last week's 'who dis' was actress Joan Fontaine. And thanks to 'ette 'CN' for this week's who dis.
Moron Recommendations A lurker e-mailed and asked-- well, heck, I'll just post his e-mail, that would be easier:
[H]ave you seen these Osprey Series books? I strongly recommend them for those who like military history, which I know includes many fancy pants Book Threaders. Each book is just under 100 pages, and they have first class maps and graphics that show you how various battles or campaigns unfolded. They cover all the bases, too, from Alexander the Great and Hannibal, Napoleonic Wars and on to our 20th century cataclysms. They are strictly military history, and do an excellent job of providing thumbnail sketches of all the commanders involved on all sides, and a quick overview of how things got to the point of the battle (or a broader campaign, e.g., the bombing campaigns in WWII or Vietnam that went on for years). Here's some I got recently; you'll see it provides a window into many places U.S. readers rarely go (e.g., the British fighting v. Japan on the India/Burma border in 1944).Osprey Publishing has more books on military than you can shake a stick at. Osprey also has a smattering of fiction, which they call Osprey Adventures:
There is a line where fact and fiction meet. This is the realm of Osprey Adventures.Osprey is located in Great Britain, and, speaking for myself, I find their prices a bit high, but don't let that deter you fans of military history on this Smart Military Blog.
Unlike bookstores, the world is not divided into fiction and non-fiction. There are many subjects, such as myths and legends, secret histories, folklore, conspiracy theories, cryptozoology, UFOs and aliens that often don’t fit neatly into either category. Osprey Adventures was created to explore these topics, and produce books filled with interesting stories, whether they be factual, fictional, or somewhere in between.
___________ This looked interesting:
256 By the way, whoever mentioned, "On the Run: A Mafia Childhood," the book by the kids of Henry Hill, thanks.On the Run: A Mafia Childhood is the one where
Great read and to say the book "Wiseguy" sanitized the home life of the Hills in an understatement.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 28, 2020 10:30 AM (WEBkv)
The children of notorious Mafia wiseguy and informant Henry Hill-the real-life subject of Goodfellas-tell their own story of danger, hurt, and family in this extraordinary account of growing up with an out-of-control father in the federal witness protection program...Unfortunately for his children Gregg and Gina, they're dragged along for the ride. Like nomads, they're forced to wander from state to state, constantly inventing new names and finding new friends, only to abandon them at a moment's notice. They live under constant fear of being found and killed.And you thought *you* had a bad childhood. The Kindle edition is $8.99. ___________
But Henry, the rock Gregg and Gina so desperately need, is a heavy cocaine user and knows only the criminal life. He is soon up to his old tricks and consistently putting their identities in jeopardy. And so it continues until the kids, now almost grown, can no longer ignore that the Mob might be less of a threat to them than remaining under the roof of their increasingly unbalanced father.
263 I finished David Hackett Fischer's great "Washington's Crossing" last year. None of the brats screeching about Washington are worthy to lick his boots. An observation by Revolutionary war hero Benjamin Rush heartened me. He said that it is the nature of Americans, and possibly of republics in general, to ignore problems until things get so bad we can't anymore and only then do we act. I hope the good doctor was correct and that that is true of the present moment.The American Revolution was hanging by a thread:
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at June 28, 2020 10:34 AM (oWAzz)
Six months after the Declaration of Independence, the American Revolution was all but lost. A powerful British force had routed the Americans at New York, occupied three colonies, and advanced within sight of Philadelphia.Wait, wasn't one of the reasons the Hessian garrison "exhausted" could have been because Washington sent in a bunch of hookers the night before?. I think we have receipts for this. I also believe this is discussed in the book George Washington's Expense Account. Of course, this daring, odds-defying attack is the history and the America that our children are being systematically taught to hate. The George Washington of Washington's Crossing (Pivotal Moments in American History) is indeed a great man. There's also James Thomas Flexner's biography, Washington: The Indispensable Man:
Yet, as David Hackett Fischer recounts in this riveting history, George Washington--and many other Americans--refused to let the Revolution die. On Christmas night, as a howling nor'easter struck the Delaware Valley, he led his men across the river and attacked the exhausted Hessian garrison at Trenton, killing or capturing nearly a thousand men. A second battle of Trenton followed within days. The Americans held off a counterattack by Lord Cornwallis's best troops, then were almost trapped by the British force. Under cover of night, Washington's men stole behind the enemy and struck them again, defeating a brigade at Princeton. The British were badly shaken. In twelve weeks of winter fighting, their army suffered severe damage, their hold on New Jersey was broken, and their strategy was ruined.
Flexner peels back the myths surrounding Washington to reveal the true complexity of his character. The only founding father from Virginia to free all his slaves, Washington was a faithful husband who harbored deep romantic feelings for his best friend’s wife. An amateur soldier, he prepared for his role as commander in chief of the Continental army by sending out to Philadelphia bookshops for treatises on military strategy...The George Washington that emerges in these pages is a shrewd statesman, a wise commander, a brave patriot, and above all, “an ordinary man pushed to greatness by the extraordinary times in which he lived” (The Christian Science Monitor). In tracing Washington’s evolution from privileged son of the landed gentry to “the indispensable man” without whom the United States as we know it would not exist, Flexner presents a hero worthy of admiration not only for his remarkable strengths, but also for his all-too-human weaknesses.Big damn hero. ___________
They Don't Publish Books Like This Any More:
Books By Morons One of my twitter peeps has just published a new novel, The Gentleman Farmers. She says
It's about losing your hometown, the lies feminism tells, American heritage, the media, the cowardice of the respectable, sublimating demographic anxiety into heritage livestock breeding, and a statue of Robert E. Lee.The Amazon blurb has more details:
Maggie Kingsbury, single middle-aged alcoholic lawyer, joins her in-laws Molly and Kevin on a homestead in the mountains of North Carolina, where their trustafarian college frenemies Brock and Sandra have just bought their third home. Molly commissions Brock to renovate an old Appalachian tobacco barn on their property. But when maverick hillbilly throwback Uncle Billy shows up to live in their field in a camper van, power struggles ensue. Meanwhile, Kevin has become dangerously obsessed with breeding heritage livestock. When Maggie's beloved niece Juliet asks her to take on a mysterious client, Maggie becomes implicated in a national political furor.The Kindle edition is only 99 cents.
___________ So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm. What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.
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Good morning fellow Book Threadists. Hope everyone had a great week of reading.
Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2020 09:01 AM (7EjX1)
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Tolle Lege
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2020 09:01 AM (6f16T)
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Stunning library
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 09:01 AM (ONvIw)
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hiya
Posted by: JT at July 05, 2020 09:01 AM (arJlL)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 09:02 AM (wPVhA)
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Imagine having to dust those shelves.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 05, 2020 09:03 AM (3SIUH)
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Tina Louise
Posted by: JT at July 05, 2020 09:04 AM (arJlL)
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The riotous behavior showed no signs of abathing, either.
Posted by: JT at July 05, 2020 09:04 AM (arJlL)
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Nipoed by JTB
Stopped at used book store, picked up Patrick OBrians 100 Days of the Aubrey/ Maturin series jumping over The Yellow Admiral.
Also finished Dennis Prager's Rational Bible Genesis, and am going to get Exodus as soon as I can figure out how to get it in book form. Amazon has it in ebook but don't want it in that form.
Stopped at used book store, picked up Patrick OBrians 100 Days of the Aubrey/ Maturin series jumping over The Yellow Admiral.
Also finished Dennis Prager's Rational Bible Genesis, and am going to get Exodus as soon as I can figure out how to get it in book form. Amazon has it in ebook but don't want it in that form.
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2020 09:05 AM (6f16T)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 05, 2020 09:05 AM (PiwSw)
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The riotous behavior showed no signs of abathing, either.
Posted by: JT at July 05, 2020 09:04 AM (arJlL)
Nope, not till NOV 3rd and then after when PDT is re-elected
Posted by: JT at July 05, 2020 09:04 AM (arJlL)
Nope, not till NOV 3rd and then after when PDT is re-elected
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 09:05 AM (85Gof)
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Relevant to the DRM-free mention above, I'm rereading the Heorot stories from Niven/Pournelle/Barnes. I have the hardcover of the first two, but I can't find the first. Rather than get them from Amazon for muh kindle, it turns out that Baen digital copies can be downloaded in about eleventy DRM-free formats and can also be sent directly to the email address associated with your kindle so they show up just the same as Amazon catalog books. Pretty handy!
Posted by: hogmartin at July 05, 2020 09:06 AM (t+qrx)
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Thank you OM for another amazing Book Thread!
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 05, 2020 09:06 AM (PiwSw)
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Stunning library
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 09:01 AM (ONvIw)
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Schickelgruber probably hung out there when he was bumming around Vienna before he hit the big time.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 09:01 AM (ONvIw)
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Schickelgruber probably hung out there when he was bumming around Vienna before he hit the big time.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 09:06 AM (wPVhA)
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That picture right there, with the book and steps and window and trees and chocolate river bookmark flowing through the stone...
That's art.
That's art.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 05, 2020 09:06 AM (3SIUH)
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Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2020 09:05 AM (6f16T)
Maybe Prager's website has info on where to get printed copies...
Maybe Prager's website has info on where to get printed copies...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 05, 2020 09:07 AM (dLLD6)
Posted by: My life is insanity at July 05, 2020 09:08 AM (Z/jzm)
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Troll is still active in the EMT.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at July 05, 2020 09:08 AM (Wm5SB)
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Posted by: JT at July 05, 2020 09:04 AM (arJlL)
It was the mole, wasn't it.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper
Naw.......
It was the mole, wasn't it.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper
Naw.......
Posted by: JT at July 05, 2020 09:08 AM (arJlL)
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Those pants are fine. I would wear them to our club meetings.
Posted by: Stormfront troll at July 05, 2020 09:08 AM (8LDnu)
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Osprey Books were in many cases the only way I could get information on Spanish military equipment and organization.
The reason I decided to write my book was because I wanted a single source that had it all in one place just for my reference.
So yes, I've got a lot of 'em.
I will add a note of caution, though: The Osprey "Essential" on the Spanish Civil War is garbage. Utter garbage. Written not by a military historian by some communist woman who is an overt partisan for the Republic.
Lots of Osprey books have photos attributed to "author's collection." These are typically artifacts - uniform parts, weapons, etc.
Hers were all Communist posters exhorting the Republic. Seriously, that was a major part of the illustrations. I was so pissed I demanded a refund and set the book back to Amazon.
The reason I decided to write my book was because I wanted a single source that had it all in one place just for my reference.
So yes, I've got a lot of 'em.
I will add a note of caution, though: The Osprey "Essential" on the Spanish Civil War is garbage. Utter garbage. Written not by a military historian by some communist woman who is an overt partisan for the Republic.
Lots of Osprey books have photos attributed to "author's collection." These are typically artifacts - uniform parts, weapons, etc.
Hers were all Communist posters exhorting the Republic. Seriously, that was a major part of the illustrations. I was so pissed I demanded a refund and set the book back to Amazon.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020 09:09 AM (cfSRQ)
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18 Troll is still active in the EMT.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at July 05, 2020 09:08 AM (Wm5SB)
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Poor guy is there jerking off all by himself. Let him have his fun.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at July 05, 2020 09:08 AM (Wm5SB)
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Poor guy is there jerking off all by himself. Let him have his fun.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 09:09 AM (wPVhA)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 05, 2020 09:09 AM (m/Sks)
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I see JT got it: Tina Louise. Before Gilligan she was thought of as a pretty good actress, not only beautiful but talented.
My news of the day: Yesterday I found two volumes of the 1949 Britannica in the textbook recycling bin at my work building. I got the Atlas plus Index volume, and the A-to-Anno first volume. They remind me in looks, and even the scent of the pages, of the set at my high school's library. The atlas maps are neat, with French West Africa and Northern and Southern Rhodesia on the Africa maps.
As for the A-t-Anno volume, it should be interesting to see how our common cultural and scientific knowledge was presented 70 years ago.
My news of the day: Yesterday I found two volumes of the 1949 Britannica in the textbook recycling bin at my work building. I got the Atlas plus Index volume, and the A-to-Anno first volume. They remind me in looks, and even the scent of the pages, of the set at my high school's library. The atlas maps are neat, with French West Africa and Northern and Southern Rhodesia on the Africa maps.
As for the A-t-Anno volume, it should be interesting to see how our common cultural and scientific knowledge was presented 70 years ago.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 05, 2020 09:09 AM (rpbg1)
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Schickelgruber probably hung out there when he was bumming around Vienna before he hit the big time.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 09:06 AM (wPVhA)
So down it goes? Nah, it's impossible to diminish the splendor of the library because it had some dastardly visitors. I suppose next it will be a monument to white supremacy?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 09:06 AM (wPVhA)
So down it goes? Nah, it's impossible to diminish the splendor of the library because it had some dastardly visitors. I suppose next it will be a monument to white supremacy?
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 09:09 AM (ONvIw)
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The miniature sceen is fascinating. Yesterday my aunt
received a card that reminded me of the book nook pictured and linked awhile ago. Took searching through past book threads to find it to show them to everyone and rekindling my interest in making one.
received a card that reminded me of the book nook pictured and linked awhile ago. Took searching through past book threads to find it to show them to everyone and rekindling my interest in making one.
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2020 09:09 AM (6f16T)
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The first season was in black and white. Wait, can I say that?
Posted by: Tina at July 05, 2020 09:10 AM (l3+k2)
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Riotous? Like the 7 train on St Patrick's Day?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2020 09:10 AM (EZebt)
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I am reading "Unbroken" by Lauren Hillenbrand about the former Olympic runner, Louis Zamperini who was imprisoned by the Japanese (where all the prisoners were treated abominably and the guard nickname "The Bird" was particularly brutal to Zamperini. It's a very good book (Spouse is reading it too) but I had to take a lighter break from it so I'm also "The Idiot" by the Russian author with a D name (Can't spell it at the moment).
The other really light reading book was Rainbow Valley By L.M. Montgomery-one of the Anne of Green Gables series. Montgomery was married to a minister who was bipolar or depressive and treated her badly, but the book contains a nice story about a minister and his family who falls in love after his wife dies, and I think it's very realistic about the church and the difficulties sometimes faced by parsonage families with sometimes nosy/gossipy congregants.
The other really light reading book was Rainbow Valley By L.M. Montgomery-one of the Anne of Green Gables series. Montgomery was married to a minister who was bipolar or depressive and treated her badly, but the book contains a nice story about a minister and his family who falls in love after his wife dies, and I think it's very realistic about the church and the difficulties sometimes faced by parsonage families with sometimes nosy/gossipy congregants.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2020 09:10 AM (M7/zw)
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So down it goes? Nah, it's impossible to diminish the splendor of the library because it had some dastardly visitors. I suppose next it will be a monument to white supremacy?
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 09:09 AM (ONvIw)
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Hitler befouled a lot of nice places. I wasn't ragging on the library.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 09:09 AM (ONvIw)
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Hitler befouled a lot of nice places. I wasn't ragging on the library.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 09:11 AM (wPVhA)
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"The Idiot" is a veeeery long book as many Russian novels are. but the main characters is supposed to be Christlike and so far he is.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2020 09:11 AM (M7/zw)
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This week I blitzed my way through a thirty year old mystery series written by Gloria Dank. They're referred to as "The Bernard and Snooky series." (I know, I know, and no I'm not making any of this up.) They were pretty good.
It's sort of a spin on the Nero Wolfe concept. Bernard is a misanthropist who writes children's books and never wants to meet anybody new. Snooky (real name Arthur) is his younger, happy go lucky brother in law who often crashes with his sister and her husband, Bernard.
Murders happen, Snooky goes out and collects information, brings it back to Bernard who figures out whodunit. There are four books in the series. Probably out of print but ebook editions are available. I downloaded them from my library.
It's sort of a spin on the Nero Wolfe concept. Bernard is a misanthropist who writes children's books and never wants to meet anybody new. Snooky (real name Arthur) is his younger, happy go lucky brother in law who often crashes with his sister and her husband, Bernard.
Murders happen, Snooky goes out and collects information, brings it back to Bernard who figures out whodunit. There are four books in the series. Probably out of print but ebook editions are available. I downloaded them from my library.
Posted by: Dr Alice at July 05, 2020 09:12 AM (zjvTi)
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So down it goes? Nah, it's impossible to diminish the splendor of the library because it had some dastardly visitors. I suppose next it will be a monument to white supremacy?
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 09:09 AM (ONvIw)
If we used that metrics, we'd have to get rid of the British Museum Reading Room, with that smelly scruffy visitor from Trier...
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 09:09 AM (ONvIw)
If we used that metrics, we'd have to get rid of the British Museum Reading Room, with that smelly scruffy visitor from Trier...
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 05, 2020 09:12 AM (PiwSw)
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I read Natchez Burning by Greg Iles. Murders and atrocities committed by the Klan and an offshoot of it during the Civil Rights era of the '60's come to the fore forty years later. A small-town newspaper editor has worked to solve these cases for the forty years. He joins with the mayor of Natchez and his newspaper publisher fiance to bring the bad guys to justice. An interesting, exciting, fast-paced story that I felt that I couldn't read fast enough.
Posted by: Zoltan at July 05, 2020 09:12 AM (6X+p6)
Posted by: naturalfake at July 05, 2020 09:12 AM (dWwl8)
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As pwner of a lot of Osprey booklets they are hit and miss on information all depending on the author.
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2020 09:12 AM (6f16T)
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Yet another troll comment on #392 prior thread. The others were removed. This guy is stubborn.
Posted by: Dr Alice at July 05, 2020 09:13 AM (zjvTi)
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Now that's a Lieberry!
Those pants look rubbery. Gonna be hard on the ass crack and other areas.
The Who Dis's mole alone gave me many a woody back in the day. Plus she could sing. And fill out a dress. And.....
I'll be back in a little bit.
Those pants look rubbery. Gonna be hard on the ass crack and other areas.
The Who Dis's mole alone gave me many a woody back in the day. Plus she could sing. And fill out a dress. And.....
I'll be back in a little bit.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 05, 2020 09:13 AM (Z+IKu)
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The first season was in black and white. Wait, can I say that?
Posted by: Tina at July 05, 2020
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I never knew that, since I didn't have a color TV until the '80s. Same was true of The Man From U.N.C.L.E., which I did know about, and even Wild Wild West.
A lot of classic TV was in B and W. NBC didn't start trumpeting it's "All Color Network" status until 1966 or '67.
Posted by: Tina at July 05, 2020
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I never knew that, since I didn't have a color TV until the '80s. Same was true of The Man From U.N.C.L.E., which I did know about, and even Wild Wild West.
A lot of classic TV was in B and W. NBC didn't start trumpeting it's "All Color Network" status until 1966 or '67.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 05, 2020 09:13 AM (rpbg1)
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Thanks OregonMuse.
The last few weeks you've made me realize I'm overdue to do some Calvin and Hobbes rereading.
The last few weeks you've made me realize I'm overdue to do some Calvin and Hobbes rereading.
Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at July 05, 2020 09:13 AM (x8Q/V)
Posted by: vmom 2020 waving Stars & Stripes at July 05, 2020 09:13 AM (OCRKH)
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OM,
Thanks, of course, for the book thread. It's a weekly treasure. Also for that delightful illustration of the book leading to a new world.
Thanks, of course, for the book thread. It's a weekly treasure. Also for that delightful illustration of the book leading to a new world.
Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2020 09:13 AM (7EjX1)
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You know who else was all fancy in Austria.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 05, 2020 09:12 AM (dWwl
Mozart?
Posted by: naturalfake at July 05, 2020 09:12 AM (dWwl
Mozart?
Posted by: hogmartin at July 05, 2020 09:14 AM (t+qrx)
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Speaking of word power/usage. I learned yesterday that the word viking was actually a verb before it was a noun, from the word vik, which meant inlets and river mouths. So to go viking was to go sailing up rivers and inlets and pillage the village.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at July 05, 2020 09:14 AM (Wm5SB)
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Reading this week: Still working through Comrades and Commissars, which is a revision/correction of Cecil Eby's 1969 classic look at the Abraham Lincoln Battalion, Between the Bullet and the Lie.
When that book was published, it provoked a lot of controversy because Eby was attacking the myths of the left. In the years since, he got letters, more information, Soviet records were opened, so he revisited his early book, which is what I am now reading.
Much of the text is the same - identical passages because it covers the same ground. However, it is peppered through with new information and corrections of his earlier book. He's very open about this, which is refreshing.
He is quite particular in pointing out that the "Abraham Lincoln Brigade" is a myth, never existed. There was a battalion of that name, but leftist propaganda declared it to be a *brigade* (three times as large as a battalion) to give the impression more Americans were serving there.
Eby is all about exposing the lies.
When that book was published, it provoked a lot of controversy because Eby was attacking the myths of the left. In the years since, he got letters, more information, Soviet records were opened, so he revisited his early book, which is what I am now reading.
Much of the text is the same - identical passages because it covers the same ground. However, it is peppered through with new information and corrections of his earlier book. He's very open about this, which is refreshing.
He is quite particular in pointing out that the "Abraham Lincoln Brigade" is a myth, never existed. There was a battalion of that name, but leftist propaganda declared it to be a *brigade* (three times as large as a battalion) to give the impression more Americans were serving there.
Eby is all about exposing the lies.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020 09:14 AM (cfSRQ)
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Hello my bookie wookies!
I'm finishing up the Legacy of Heorot trilogy by Niven, Pournelle, and Barnes. What a wild ride!
200 colonists spend 100 years in cryosleep to reach an earth-like planet in the Tau Ceti system. The lush planet Avalon seems perfect...they always do, at first. But the colonists' unwitting predation of a species sets an ecological disturbance in motion and things get horrible real fast. There's a big, toothy predator or the loose. And then there are a LOT of them.
And to make things worse, some the ship's crew, who were all selected for their brilliance and practical skills, suffered mental and emotional damage from the cryosleep process and they aren't performing at peak efficiency.
I'm finishing up the Legacy of Heorot trilogy by Niven, Pournelle, and Barnes. What a wild ride!
200 colonists spend 100 years in cryosleep to reach an earth-like planet in the Tau Ceti system. The lush planet Avalon seems perfect...they always do, at first. But the colonists' unwitting predation of a species sets an ecological disturbance in motion and things get horrible real fast. There's a big, toothy predator or the loose. And then there are a LOT of them.
And to make things worse, some the ship's crew, who were all selected for their brilliance and practical skills, suffered mental and emotional damage from the cryosleep process and they aren't performing at peak efficiency.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2020 09:15 AM (Dc2NZ)
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wha hoppen, vmom?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 05, 2020 09:15 AM (PiwSw)
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I'm still working on rereading the Janissaries series by Jerry Pournelle.
The last book was recently released (posthumously... finished by David Weber), and the first 3 books are now available in a relatively inexpensive Kindle omnibus edition.
The scenario is this:
The planet Tran has a plant that produces a recreational drug for an alien species, with the best quality shit being produced when a rogue companion star approaches the planet every 600 years, causing severe climate change.
The aliens, being averse to doing any labor themselves, kidnap groups of humans before this desirable (from the standpoint of drug production) period occurs, concentrating on groups that won't be missed.
Once their Earthling dupes have produced the drug, the aliens bomb any civilization the humans have set up back to the Stone Age.
This begins a slow cycle of the humans gradually getting back the civilization they had before the bombing, but never having time to advance much beyond it.
As a result, the planet is a hodgepodge of proto-Indo-Europeans, late Imperial Romans, Celtic tribesmen, Venetians, and anything else you can think of.
The first book opens with a group of American mercenaries being kidnapped while engaged in a CIA operation in Africa.
Not "great literature", perhaps, but I enjoyed the original books when they came out years ago, and the series conclusion is satisfying.
Recommended.
The last book was recently released (posthumously... finished by David Weber), and the first 3 books are now available in a relatively inexpensive Kindle omnibus edition.
The scenario is this:
The planet Tran has a plant that produces a recreational drug for an alien species, with the best quality shit being produced when a rogue companion star approaches the planet every 600 years, causing severe climate change.
The aliens, being averse to doing any labor themselves, kidnap groups of humans before this desirable (from the standpoint of drug production) period occurs, concentrating on groups that won't be missed.
Once their Earthling dupes have produced the drug, the aliens bomb any civilization the humans have set up back to the Stone Age.
This begins a slow cycle of the humans gradually getting back the civilization they had before the bombing, but never having time to advance much beyond it.
As a result, the planet is a hodgepodge of proto-Indo-Europeans, late Imperial Romans, Celtic tribesmen, Venetians, and anything else you can think of.
The first book opens with a group of American mercenaries being kidnapped while engaged in a CIA operation in Africa.
Not "great literature", perhaps, but I enjoyed the original books when they came out years ago, and the series conclusion is satisfying.
Recommended.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 05, 2020 09:15 AM (hKLpI)
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Did a bit of re-reading this past week: _Fisher's Face_, by Jan Morris. Yeah, I know, Morris is really a dude named James, but she/he's also about ninety years old and is a hell of a writer. _Fisher's Face_ is basically her creepy stalker fan letter to the late Admiral "Jacky" Fisher.
If you don't know who Fisher was, look him up. Fascinating guy. Royal Navy officer from 1860 to 1910, then First Sea Lord. Completely reorganized and rebuilt the Royal Navy in the decade before WWI. Designed HMS Dreadnought. Churchill's best buddy. Great dancer (no kidding). As I said, fascinating guy.
It's an excellent book, too. Morris has apparently been historically stalking Fisher since the 1950s, so has a huge mass of anecdotes, trivia, personal accounts, visits to places he lived, and even memorabilia. The biggest flaw is that the book has almost no photos -- just a portrait frontespiece of Jacky in his prime.
If you don't know who Fisher was, look him up. Fascinating guy. Royal Navy officer from 1860 to 1910, then First Sea Lord. Completely reorganized and rebuilt the Royal Navy in the decade before WWI. Designed HMS Dreadnought. Churchill's best buddy. Great dancer (no kidding). As I said, fascinating guy.
It's an excellent book, too. Morris has apparently been historically stalking Fisher since the 1950s, so has a huge mass of anecdotes, trivia, personal accounts, visits to places he lived, and even memorabilia. The biggest flaw is that the book has almost no photos -- just a portrait frontespiece of Jacky in his prime.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 09:15 AM (q0pa5)
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> NBC didn't start trumpeting it's "All Color Network" status until 1966 or '67.
Yeah, I'm old enough to remember when "In Color!" was a big bullet point for shows.
Yeah, I'm old enough to remember when "In Color!" was a big bullet point for shows.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 05, 2020 09:16 AM (hKLpI)
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Re-reading Dennis Lehane's Mystic River. I've never seen the movie, but Kevin Bacon probably made a good homicide detective. I picture Jimmy Marcus, the role Sean Penn played, as looking like William Petersen of CSI.
Lehane's a dynamite storyteller.
Lehane's a dynamite storyteller.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 05, 2020 09:16 AM (rpbg1)
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George Washington was also a wonderful stepfather to Martha's children, one stepson in particular.
The letters asking George for advice have been preserved and published.
GW was a wise man.
The letters asking George for advice have been preserved and published.
GW was a wise man.
Posted by: Historically minded Miklos at July 05, 2020 09:16 AM (QzkSJ)
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Reading a series of short stories and novellas by Dan Decker. 'Monsters & Mayhem #1'. Not bad stuff. Think it was $0.99 on Kindle.
I've stopped buying books higher than $5 unless I k ow it's a Moron's book anymore. Give the Indies a chance, I say.
I've stopped buying books higher than $5 unless I k ow it's a Moron's book anymore. Give the Indies a chance, I say.
Posted by: BifBewalski - sinis est culus at July 05, 2020 09:16 AM (VcFUs)
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Speaking of bad reads, the Washington Compost has an editorial stating flat-out that America was a mistake. This got Gabe Malor, of all people, to post "When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary to tell you to fuck right off, WaPo", followed by "Pay for journalism, they said. It's important, they said".
Posted by: Ian S. at July 05, 2020 09:17 AM (6XLoz)
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A particularly nasty troll comment made the side bar.
Posted by: Ladyl--now mask-free! at July 05, 2020 09:17 AM (TdMsT)
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I'm finishing up the Legacy of Heorot trilogy by Niven, Pournelle, and Barnes. What a wild ride!
I remember that one. "Icebrains" and "freezer-burnt".
I'm finishing up the Legacy of Heorot trilogy by Niven, Pournelle, and Barnes. What a wild ride!
I remember that one. "Icebrains" and "freezer-burnt".
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 05, 2020 09:18 AM (3SIUH)
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After reading here about Anne Perry's history I read a few of her books. They are well crafted, and strive for historical accuracy. The last one I read was "A Christmas Journey" which really had nothing to do with Christmas but dealt with the mystery behind a suicide which took place at a party at a British estate during Victorian times.
Did the victim kill herself over cutting remarks made by another guest, a guest who was jealous of her new found happiness? Or were there other factors in play?
Given Perry's history, I have found her presenting complex characters with multifaceted motivations for their behaviors. So often, a villain is a villain and nothing more, any positive qualities he possesses are but a clever ruse designed to fool victims and detectives. Perry doesn't do that and I have found her characters better rounded and more realistic. She never lets them off the hook, though, a price must be paid.
In the case of "A Christmas Journey" the woman who is perceived as the catalyst for the suicide must also pay a price, a journey of expiation. She's tasked by her fellow guests with the job of presenting the victim's unopened suicide letter to the mother and to explain her part in the death.
The book could have been longer and more detailed, but it was interesting anyway.
Did the victim kill herself over cutting remarks made by another guest, a guest who was jealous of her new found happiness? Or were there other factors in play?
Given Perry's history, I have found her presenting complex characters with multifaceted motivations for their behaviors. So often, a villain is a villain and nothing more, any positive qualities he possesses are but a clever ruse designed to fool victims and detectives. Perry doesn't do that and I have found her characters better rounded and more realistic. She never lets them off the hook, though, a price must be paid.
In the case of "A Christmas Journey" the woman who is perceived as the catalyst for the suicide must also pay a price, a journey of expiation. She's tasked by her fellow guests with the job of presenting the victim's unopened suicide letter to the mother and to explain her part in the death.
The book could have been longer and more detailed, but it was interesting anyway.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 09:18 AM (ONvIw)
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Speaking of word power/usage. I learned yesterday that the word viking was actually a verb before it was a noun, from the word vik, which meant inlets and river mouths. So to go viking was to go sailing up rivers and inlets and pillage the village.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at July 05, 2020 09:14 AM (Wm5SB)
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Here's one. The "rus" in Russia was also a word for Vikings. It means something like river traveler or raider. Seems the Vikings would use them rivers in what is now Russia first for raiding purposes, then to support their settlements.
Those guys got as far south as the Crimea.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at July 05, 2020 09:14 AM (Wm5SB)
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Here's one. The "rus" in Russia was also a word for Vikings. It means something like river traveler or raider. Seems the Vikings would use them rivers in what is now Russia first for raiding purposes, then to support their settlements.
Those guys got as far south as the Crimea.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 09:18 AM (wPVhA)
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47 wha hoppen, vmom?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes
poor doggeh still trying to get rid of the shitzen
so I decided to sleep on the couch to take him out as needed
good idea until at 7:30 am he's all - I feel great! Lets take a walk nudge nudge nose in ear
is a good thing he's cute
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes
poor doggeh still trying to get rid of the shitzen
so I decided to sleep on the couch to take him out as needed
good idea until at 7:30 am he's all - I feel great! Lets take a walk nudge nudge nose in ear
is a good thing he's cute
Posted by: vmom 2020 waving Stars & Stripes at July 05, 2020 09:18 AM (OCRKH)
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Hi vmom, was it fireworks that kept you up? Hope you are well. Looking forward to next Luna City book.
Posted by: Dr Alice at July 05, 2020 09:19 AM (zjvTi)
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Re-reading Dennis Lehane's Mystic River. I've never seen the movie, but Kevin Bacon probably made a good homicide detective. I picture Jimmy Marcus, the role Sean Penn played, as looking like William Petersen of CSI.
Lehane's a dynamite storyteller.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Don't remember if I read that......the movie was pretty good.
Lehane's a dynamite storyteller.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Don't remember if I read that......the movie was pretty good.
Posted by: JT at July 05, 2020 09:19 AM (arJlL)
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Old-Timey Book Recommendation:
A while back a friend of mine was talking about my Tolkien collection and spied "Unfinished Tales" on the shelf, which he'd never heard of. So I loaned it to him.
We sometimes take it as a given that fans of an author know all his works, particularly with Tolkien, but this was the second time I met a Tolkien fan unaware of that particular book.
I absolutely recommend this book as a bedtime reader. It is a bunch of unfinished essays and is PERFECT for when you are tired, on the point of sleep, but just need a little push and don't want to lose your place in a longer book.
I usually read at bedtime, but sometimes you are so out of it you have to go back because you were fading. Unfinished Tales is great in its own right, but perfect for that one or two pages to put you asleep.
A while back a friend of mine was talking about my Tolkien collection and spied "Unfinished Tales" on the shelf, which he'd never heard of. So I loaned it to him.
We sometimes take it as a given that fans of an author know all his works, particularly with Tolkien, but this was the second time I met a Tolkien fan unaware of that particular book.
I absolutely recommend this book as a bedtime reader. It is a bunch of unfinished essays and is PERFECT for when you are tired, on the point of sleep, but just need a little push and don't want to lose your place in a longer book.
I usually read at bedtime, but sometimes you are so out of it you have to go back because you were fading. Unfinished Tales is great in its own right, but perfect for that one or two pages to put you asleep.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020 09:19 AM (cfSRQ)
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I'm finishing up the Legacy of Heorot trilogy by Niven, Pournelle, and Barnes. What a wild ride!
200 colonists spend 100 years in cryosleep to reach an earth-like planet in the Tau Ceti system. The lush planet Avalon seems perfect...they always do, at first. But the colonists' unwitting predation of a species sets an ecological disturbance in motion and things get horrible real fast. There's a big, toothy predator or the loose. And then there are a LOT of them.
And to make things worse, some the ship's crew, who were all selected for their brilliance and practical skills, suffered mental and emotional damage from the cryosleep process and they aren't performing at peak efficiency.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2020
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You'd think a book, or a series, written by three authors would be a hellish mishmash -- but it isn't, not with Niven and Pournelle as two of them.
One of the blurbs on the paperback edition I read many years ago said that Legacy of Heorot, the first book, "makes Aliens look like a Disney nature film."
200 colonists spend 100 years in cryosleep to reach an earth-like planet in the Tau Ceti system. The lush planet Avalon seems perfect...they always do, at first. But the colonists' unwitting predation of a species sets an ecological disturbance in motion and things get horrible real fast. There's a big, toothy predator or the loose. And then there are a LOT of them.
And to make things worse, some the ship's crew, who were all selected for their brilliance and practical skills, suffered mental and emotional damage from the cryosleep process and they aren't performing at peak efficiency.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2020
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You'd think a book, or a series, written by three authors would be a hellish mishmash -- but it isn't, not with Niven and Pournelle as two of them.
One of the blurbs on the paperback edition I read many years ago said that Legacy of Heorot, the first book, "makes Aliens look like a Disney nature film."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 05, 2020 09:19 AM (rpbg1)
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Those guys got as far south as the Crimea.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 09:18 AM (wPVhA)
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Try Constantinople. The Byzantines created a unit out of Vikings, the Varangian Guard.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 09:18 AM (wPVhA)
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Try Constantinople. The Byzantines created a unit out of Vikings, the Varangian Guard.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020 09:21 AM (cfSRQ)
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"Icebrains" and "freezer-burnt".
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 05, 2020 09:18 AM (3SIUH)
Let's try using words that help, not words that hurt.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 05, 2020 09:18 AM (3SIUH)
Let's try using words that help, not words that hurt.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 05, 2020 09:21 AM (t+qrx)
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I read Natchez Burning by Greg Iles. Murders and atrocities committed by the Klan and an offshoot of it during the Civil Rights era of the '60's come to the fore forty years later. A small-town newspaper editor has worked to solve these cases for the forty years. He joins with the mayor of Natchez and his newspaper publisher fiance to bring the bad guys to justice. An interesting, exciting, fast-paced story that I felt that I couldn't read fast enough.
Posted by: Zoltan at July 05, 2020 09:12 AM (6X+p6)
The next two in the trilogy are just as good. The Bone Tree, and Mississippi Burning. Greg Iles is an excellent writer.
Posted by: Zoltan at July 05, 2020 09:12 AM (6X+p6)
The next two in the trilogy are just as good. The Bone Tree, and Mississippi Burning. Greg Iles is an excellent writer.
Posted by: One of the quiet ones at July 05, 2020 09:22 AM (TaleM)
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> Those guys got as far south as the Crimea.
Even into Anatolia proper.
The Byzantine emperors had "Varangian guards" who were basically Vikings.
Even into Anatolia proper.
The Byzantine emperors had "Varangian guards" who were basically Vikings.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 05, 2020 09:22 AM (hKLpI)
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Hitler befouled a lot of nice places. I wasn't ragging on the library.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 09:11 AM (wPVhA)
I know, but only looking at it from today's sick perspectives. Manet and Renoir were anti-Semites, but I would never advocate for the destruction of their works.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 09:11 AM (wPVhA)
I know, but only looking at it from today's sick perspectives. Manet and Renoir were anti-Semites, but I would never advocate for the destruction of their works.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 09:22 AM (ONvIw)
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The Heorot series has an uncredited fourth author: Jack Cohen, a British biologist who told Niven about a species of frog which has a life cycle like the critters in the book. The writers scaled it up, gave it big teeth, claws, and a supercharged adrenal system, and put it on an alien world.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 09:22 AM (q0pa5)
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Try Constantinople. The Byzantines created a unit out of Vikings, the Varangian Guard.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020
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It's "Istanbul," not "Constantinople"!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020
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It's "Istanbul," not "Constantinople"!
Posted by: The Four Lads at July 05, 2020 09:22 AM (rpbg1)
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OT-Prayer request
We are having our first service in the church building today since the end of March (We have been meeting outside or at someone's house before that) If you could pray that the Spirit be present and things go well and people blessed, I would be most grateful. Thanks.
We are having our first service in the church building today since the end of March (We have been meeting outside or at someone's house before that) If you could pray that the Spirit be present and things go well and people blessed, I would be most grateful. Thanks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 05, 2020 09:23 AM (M7/zw)
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My current reading is Winning a Future War, by Norman Friedman. I don't know how I let this slip by, as it came out 2 years ago. But it certainly didn't get the press and discussion he usually gets, and wasn't published by any of the usual companies. That's odd, since Friedman is easily #1 in the field.
It's a history of wargaming at the Naval War College between the wars, and argues for the importance of that in creating the fleet we won the Pacific war with. It's surprising just how much they anticipated (and interesting what the didn't.) Neither Britain nor Japan had anything like it.
One snippet: The had figured in the early 30s that the wastage of carrier pilots would be enormous, and it was partly this that led to our extremely productive training program, as well as the policy of rotating pilots out of action to avoid burn out. As is pretty well known, Japan did nothing of the sort, and their excellent carrier air arm was gone after Guadalcanal.
Anyway, it's here, and says there's a free ebook version:
https://tinyurl.com/y7xnlte2
(I don't do ebooks, but some - Anna Puma and A H Lloyd for instance, might be interested.)
It's a history of wargaming at the Naval War College between the wars, and argues for the importance of that in creating the fleet we won the Pacific war with. It's surprising just how much they anticipated (and interesting what the didn't.) Neither Britain nor Japan had anything like it.
One snippet: The had figured in the early 30s that the wastage of carrier pilots would be enormous, and it was partly this that led to our extremely productive training program, as well as the policy of rotating pilots out of action to avoid burn out. As is pretty well known, Japan did nothing of the sort, and their excellent carrier air arm was gone after Guadalcanal.
Anyway, it's here, and says there's a free ebook version:
https://tinyurl.com/y7xnlte2
(I don't do ebooks, but some - Anna Puma and A H Lloyd for instance, might be interested.)
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 09:23 AM (LMs+g)
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I finished reading The general's Daughter by Nelson DeMille and it was VERY good.
Am now reading NYPD -A City and its Police, and it is very good as well. by James Lardner and Thomas Reppetto.
Am now reading NYPD -A City and its Police, and it is very good as well. by James Lardner and Thomas Reppetto.
Posted by: JT at July 05, 2020 09:23 AM (arJlL)
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but only looking at it from today's sick perspectives. Manet and Renoir were anti-Semites, but I would never advocate for the destruction of their works.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 09:22 AM (ONvIw)
I never even advocated for the destruction of hitler's "art"
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 09:22 AM (ONvIw)
I never even advocated for the destruction of hitler's "art"
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 09:23 AM (85Gof)
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I read:
The Last Days of Night, by Graham Moore. It's a docudrama dealing with the battle between Edison, Tesla, and Westinghouse, as seen through the eyes of a young lawyer. I don't read a lot of modern fiction, but this was quite good.
Sword vs. Scimitar, by Raymond Ibrahim. If that name sounds familiar, it's because he's the one that CAIR tried to prevent from speaking to the National Defense Univ. After reading the book, which is a concise history of the various battles between Islam and the West, you can see why they hate him. He's a former student of Victor David Hanson, and hence no lightweight, but he's clearly got an axe to grind with regards to academia's current infatuation with Islam. I can't say I know that every fact is correct, but given his background, I wouldn't be surprised, and it's safe to say Islam does not come out of this looking good. Highly recommended.
The Last Days of Night, by Graham Moore. It's a docudrama dealing with the battle between Edison, Tesla, and Westinghouse, as seen through the eyes of a young lawyer. I don't read a lot of modern fiction, but this was quite good.
Sword vs. Scimitar, by Raymond Ibrahim. If that name sounds familiar, it's because he's the one that CAIR tried to prevent from speaking to the National Defense Univ. After reading the book, which is a concise history of the various battles between Islam and the West, you can see why they hate him. He's a former student of Victor David Hanson, and hence no lightweight, but he's clearly got an axe to grind with regards to academia's current infatuation with Islam. I can't say I know that every fact is correct, but given his background, I wouldn't be surprised, and it's safe to say Islam does not come out of this looking good. Highly recommended.
Posted by: pep at July 05, 2020 09:24 AM (v16oJ)
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Elsewhere, a troll has broken the comments at AT by posting 3000 comments at once, under Clarice's piece.
A shame that AT has no one at the wheel.
A shame that AT has no one at the wheel.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at July 05, 2020 09:24 AM (lW69B)
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OT-Prayer request
We are having our first service in the church building today since the end of March (We have been meeting outside or at someone's house before that) If you could pray that the Spirit be present and things go well and people blessed, I would be most grateful. Thanks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
Okay, Fen !
We are having our first service in the church building today since the end of March (We have been meeting outside or at someone's house before that) If you could pray that the Spirit be present and things go well and people blessed, I would be most grateful. Thanks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
Okay, Fen !
Posted by: JT at July 05, 2020 09:24 AM (arJlL)
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That woman sure is strange by current standards. Not a tattoo or piercing in sight.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 09:24 AM (LMs+g)
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Here's one. The "rus" in Russia was also a word for Vikings. It means something like river traveler or raider. Seems the Vikings would use them rivers in what is now Russia first for raiding purposes, then to support their settlements.
Those guys got as far south as the Crimea.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 09:18 AM (wPVhA)
Yeah, the Swedes referred to themselves as the Rus and the got far enough south to trade slaves and other stuff with the Muslims. I saw a video that read a first hand account of a 9th century Muslim who saw the Vikings in person. A lot of the stuff in the movie The 13th warrior comes straight from there. The Vikings, my ancestors on my Mom's side, were serious barbarians. They had the hygiene and manners of barnyard animals and the temperament of a pack of wolves.
Here's one. The "rus" in Russia was also a word for Vikings. It means something like river traveler or raider. Seems the Vikings would use them rivers in what is now Russia first for raiding purposes, then to support their settlements.
Those guys got as far south as the Crimea.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 09:18 AM (wPVhA)
Yeah, the Swedes referred to themselves as the Rus and the got far enough south to trade slaves and other stuff with the Muslims. I saw a video that read a first hand account of a 9th century Muslim who saw the Vikings in person. A lot of the stuff in the movie The 13th warrior comes straight from there. The Vikings, my ancestors on my Mom's side, were serious barbarians. They had the hygiene and manners of barnyard animals and the temperament of a pack of wolves.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at July 05, 2020 09:25 AM (Wm5SB)
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Oh, and the second book in the trilogy, "Beowulf's Children", is about the cultural rift between the Earth-born colonists and their Avalon-born children, who want to strike off on their own and found a new colony on the mainland away from the first colony. They resent what they see as timidity of the founders, and their rigid adherence to safety protocols and rule by committee.
Of course, in their youthful confidence they underestimate the weirdness and complexity of their new home planet.
Of course, in their youthful confidence they underestimate the weirdness and complexity of their new home planet.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2020 09:25 AM (Dc2NZ)
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Seems like nowadays antisemitism only matters if the antisemite is ALSO politically conservative. Leftists can try to murder Jews as much as they like.
You know, like our Apostle of Racial Healing, the Most Reverend Al Sharpton -- one of the few living men to have conducted multiple pogroms. But it's okay, he works for MSNBC so a little Jew-murder is acceptable.
You know, like our Apostle of Racial Healing, the Most Reverend Al Sharpton -- one of the few living men to have conducted multiple pogroms. But it's okay, he works for MSNBC so a little Jew-murder is acceptable.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 09:25 AM (q0pa5)
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Those guys got as far south as the Crimea.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 09:18 AM (wPVhA)
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Try Constantinople. The Byzantines created a unit out of Vikings, the Varangian Guard.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
There are a remarkable number of blondes from the Old Cossack places. Mariupol in particular.
You could even write a book about that.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 09:18 AM (wPVhA)
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Try Constantinople. The Byzantines created a unit out of Vikings, the Varangian Guard.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
There are a remarkable number of blondes from the Old Cossack places. Mariupol in particular.
You could even write a book about that.
Posted by: Miklos, who makes notes at July 05, 2020 09:25 AM (QzkSJ)
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**waves to Eris**
Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes.
My news of the day: Yesterday I found two volumes of the 1949 Britannica in the textbook recycling bin at my work building. I got the Atlas plus Index volume, and the A-to-Anno first volume. They remind me in looks, and even the scent of the pages, of the set at my high school's library. The atlas maps are neat, with French West Africa and Northern and Southern Rhodesia on the Africa maps.
I have a complete set of the 1929 edition. A few years ago, this wonderful used bookstore in NH was going out of business and selling all books for one dollar a box-full. So I grabbed boxes of Hollywood books as well as the Britannica and the two-volume Compact Oxford English Dictionary
Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes.
My news of the day: Yesterday I found two volumes of the 1949 Britannica in the textbook recycling bin at my work building. I got the Atlas plus Index volume, and the A-to-Anno first volume. They remind me in looks, and even the scent of the pages, of the set at my high school's library. The atlas maps are neat, with French West Africa and Northern and Southern Rhodesia on the Africa maps.
I have a complete set of the 1929 edition. A few years ago, this wonderful used bookstore in NH was going out of business and selling all books for one dollar a box-full. So I grabbed boxes of Hollywood books as well as the Britannica and the two-volume Compact Oxford English Dictionary
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 09:25 AM (2JVJo)
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> It's "Istanbul," not "Constantinople"!
It's "Byzantium", not "Constantinople".
The Vikings weren't the only Europeans who were far-ranging hired guns (or hired swords/spears, I guess).
In the Indian subcontinent, "Frank" was the generic term for any foreign mercenary, due to various members of Frankish tribes having hired themselves out to Indian rajahs.
It's "Byzantium", not "Constantinople".
The Vikings weren't the only Europeans who were far-ranging hired guns (or hired swords/spears, I guess).
In the Indian subcontinent, "Frank" was the generic term for any foreign mercenary, due to various members of Frankish tribes having hired themselves out to Indian rajahs.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 05, 2020 09:25 AM (hKLpI)
85
Lehane's a dynamite storyteller.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
I prefer his earlier detective series ( books like "Prayers for Rain").
Great characters. Good noir-ish plots. Snappy action.
Some nice twists.
Rather than his later stuff.
But, there's no denying that he's a very good writer and storyteller.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
I prefer his earlier detective series ( books like "Prayers for Rain").
Great characters. Good noir-ish plots. Snappy action.
Some nice twists.
Rather than his later stuff.
But, there's no denying that he's a very good writer and storyteller.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 05, 2020 09:25 AM (dWwl8)
86
Even Chaucer hated rioters. Read the Pardoner's Tale.
Posted by: jmel at July 05, 2020 09:26 AM (bVhJi)
87
I never even advocated for the destruction of hitler's "art"
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 09:23 AM (85Gof)
Neither have I. It is a part of history and even the ugly in history must be preserved and examined.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 09:23 AM (85Gof)
Neither have I. It is a part of history and even the ugly in history must be preserved and examined.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 09:26 AM (ONvIw)
88
(I don't do ebooks, but some - Anna Puma and A H Lloyd for instance, might be interested.)
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 09:23 AM (LMs+g)
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I prefer paper, but appreciate the tip.
The Navy still leads the way in military wargaming. Army has a boardgame system of 80s vintage, Air Force has...not much.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 09:23 AM (LMs+g)
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I prefer paper, but appreciate the tip.
The Navy still leads the way in military wargaming. Army has a boardgame system of 80s vintage, Air Force has...not much.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020 09:26 AM (cfSRQ)
89
I'm gonna nap; to regain the sleep I didn't get last night due to fireworks.
Posted by: JT at July 05, 2020 09:26 AM (arJlL)
90
Nothing much to report this week - I was working for my occasional employer for the first part of the week, and the last with transporting and putting up a new chicken coop ... but did make it halfway through a book found by following a thread on wikipedia about an Australian movie actor who was sort of the Gary Cooper of Australia, back in the day. Found a book on Amazon, which was the novelization of the movie "The Overlanders" - about a wartime long-trail cattle drive, from Northern Australia in 1942, when everyone was worried about a Japanese invasion. Dora Birtles was a regional writer, mostly of books for kids, but she did a very decent and readable story. I'm enjoying the book very much, not least for it being unashamedly un-PC.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom at July 05, 2020 09:27 AM (xnmPy)
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Even Chaucer hated rioters.
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With Chaucer it's always a little hard to tell for sure. Dude didn't speak good English.
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With Chaucer it's always a little hard to tell for sure. Dude didn't speak good English.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 09:27 AM (wPVhA)
92
Between all their different series the Osprey line is over a thousand titles. I own more than I'd like to admit. Most give a very good short overview of the title.
Of the at least hundred or so I've read, only a couple percent have been "bad".
They have reached a saturation point on some topics. Lots of overlap on interior photos, but unless the book is a compilation special, they do not repeat commissioned artwork. Each series title generally has at least 2 or 3. Quality generally high, but there are exceptions.
Of the at least hundred or so I've read, only a couple percent have been "bad".
They have reached a saturation point on some topics. Lots of overlap on interior photos, but unless the book is a compilation special, they do not repeat commissioned artwork. Each series title generally has at least 2 or 3. Quality generally high, but there are exceptions.
Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at July 05, 2020 09:28 AM (x8Q/V)
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> With Chaucer it's always a little hard to tell for sure. Dude didn't speak good English.
Middling, at best.
Middling, at best.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 05, 2020 09:28 AM (hKLpI)
94
39 The first season was in black and white. Wait, can I say that?
Posted by: Tina at July 05, 2020
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I never knew that, since I didn't have a color TV until the '80s. Same was true of The Man From U.N.C.L.E., which I did know about, and even Wild Wild West.
A lot of classic TV was in B and W. NBC didn't start trumpeting it's "All Color Network" status until 1966 or '67.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 05, 2020 09:13 AM (rpbg1)
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Or, to speak of what really matters, the first Emma Peel season of the Avengers was B&W, the 2nd was color. (Or should I say "colour"? Anyway, that defined puberty for me.)
Posted by: Tina at July 05, 2020
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I never knew that, since I didn't have a color TV until the '80s. Same was true of The Man From U.N.C.L.E., which I did know about, and even Wild Wild West.
A lot of classic TV was in B and W. NBC didn't start trumpeting it's "All Color Network" status until 1966 or '67.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 05, 2020 09:13 AM (rpbg1)
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Or, to speak of what really matters, the first Emma Peel season of the Avengers was B&W, the 2nd was color. (Or should I say "colour"? Anyway, that defined puberty for me.)
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 09:28 AM (LMs+g)
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"They Don't Publish Books Like This Any More: 'Stories of Strange Women'"
Are you kidding??? They only publish books like that these days.
Are you kidding??? They only publish books like that these days.
Posted by: cool breeze at July 05, 2020 09:28 AM (UGKMd)
96
Manet and Renoir were anti-Semites, but I would never advocate for the destruction of their works.
Last night I watched Yankee Doodle Dandy on TCM. Naturally, the soiboi host had to warn us, in portentious tones, that since TCM (unfortunately) airs its movies uncut, we were going to see a short blackface scene and we had to understand that it was coming.
You could tell from the look on the silly bastard's face that he desperately wanted to edit the movie to pieces.
Last night I watched Yankee Doodle Dandy on TCM. Naturally, the soiboi host had to warn us, in portentious tones, that since TCM (unfortunately) airs its movies uncut, we were going to see a short blackface scene and we had to understand that it was coming.
You could tell from the look on the silly bastard's face that he desperately wanted to edit the movie to pieces.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 09:29 AM (2JVJo)
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The rest of my reading was Eumenides, the last part of Aeschylus' trilogy and a lot of stories for the grandsons. We read a lot about George Washington.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 09:29 AM (ONvIw)
98
There are a remarkable number of blondes from the Old Cossack places. Mariupol in particular.
You could even write a book about that.
Posted by: Miklos, who makes notes at July 05, 2020 09:25 AM (QzkSJ)
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The Romanov dynasty was remarkably German in its composition, and the Russians seemed to have this odd attraction/repulsion towards Germany as a result.
Court culture aped the French, but there was (and still is) a lot of the Nordic in Russian culture, particularly with emphasizing blondes.
You could even write a book about that.
Posted by: Miklos, who makes notes at July 05, 2020 09:25 AM (QzkSJ)
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The Romanov dynasty was remarkably German in its composition, and the Russians seemed to have this odd attraction/repulsion towards Germany as a result.
Court culture aped the French, but there was (and still is) a lot of the Nordic in Russian culture, particularly with emphasizing blondes.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020 09:29 AM (cfSRQ)
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The Navy still leads the way in military wargaming. Army has a boardgame system of 80s vintage, Air Force has...not much.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
They just have a couple 2nd Looeys go into Airplane Mode.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
They just have a couple 2nd Looeys go into Airplane Mode.
Posted by: JT at July 05, 2020 09:29 AM (arJlL)
100
The Vikings, my ancestors on my Mom's side, were
serious barbarians. They had the hygiene and manners of barnyard animals
and the temperament of a pack of wolves.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls
And a serious lack of wokeness.
serious barbarians. They had the hygiene and manners of barnyard animals
and the temperament of a pack of wolves.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls
And a serious lack of wokeness.
Posted by: pep at July 05, 2020 09:29 AM (v16oJ)
Posted by: The Miklos Tale at July 05, 2020 09:30 AM (QzkSJ)
102
I'm rediscovering eBay since abandoning Amazon.
There are a lot of the Osprey books on eBay...very cheap.
There are a lot of the Osprey books on eBay...very cheap.
Posted by: creeper at July 05, 2020 09:30 AM (XxJt1)
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The Navy still leads the way in military wargaming. Army has a boardgame system of 80s vintage, Air Force has...not much.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020 09:26 AM (cfSRQ)
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They have HD virtual golf simulators!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020 09:26 AM (cfSRQ)
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They have HD virtual golf simulators!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2020 09:31 AM (Dc2NZ)
104
Did something I haven't done in a while. I read "Bored of the Rings" all the way through instead of sections here and there. Even after all these decades, it is still silly and giggle-worthy.
Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2020 09:31 AM (7EjX1)
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It occurs to me that air war simulations are all about the cockpit experience. Nobody seems to think of air war beyond winning dogfights.
For instance, in modern war, would it make sense to hold back your air forces at first, to let the other guy's best pilots get chewed up by air defenses? One can argue it worked for the RAF vs. Luftwaffe.
For instance, in modern war, would it make sense to hold back your air forces at first, to let the other guy's best pilots get chewed up by air defenses? One can argue it worked for the RAF vs. Luftwaffe.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 09:31 AM (q0pa5)
106
Writing Update: I did nothing. Took the week off.
Next week I'll do the edits and reformat the book for publication.
Next week I'll do the edits and reformat the book for publication.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020 09:32 AM (cfSRQ)
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The Romanov dynasty was remarkably German in its composition, and the Russians seemed to have this odd attraction/repulsion towards Germany as a result.
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Catherine the Great was a German princess who had to learn to speak Russian as an adult.
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Catherine the Great was a German princess who had to learn to speak Russian as an adult.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 09:32 AM (wPVhA)
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I've seen some riotous fireworks last night. So many ! Never seen so many ! All illegal of course. Biggest FU to the left wing fascist who run the state and city.
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 09:33 AM (zr5Kq)
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49 Did a bit of re-reading this past week: _Fisher's Face_, by Jan Morris. Yeah, I know, Morris is really a dude named James, but she/he's also about ninety years old and is a hell of a writer. _Fisher's Face_ is basically her creepy stalker fan letter to the late Admiral "Jacky" Fisher.
If you don't know who Fisher was, look him up. Fascinating guy. Royal Navy officer from 1860 to 1910, then First Sea Lord. Completely reorganized and rebuilt the Royal Navy in the decade before WWI. Designed HMS Dreadnought. Churchill's best buddy. Great dancer (no kidding). As I said, fascinating guy.
It's an excellent book, too. Morris has apparently been historically stalking Fisher since the 1950s, so has a huge mass of anecdotes, trivia, personal accounts, visits to places he lived, and even memorabilia. The biggest flaw is that the book has almost no photos -- just a portrait frontespiece of Jacky in his prime.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 09:15 AM (q0pa5)
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Got it, of course, though Morris is a real creep. But I had to. If you want some fun, get hold of Fisher's own memoir, Memories and Records. There is a lot in Churchill's World Crisis about him, especially the first 2 volumes.
He was a brilliant crank, devious, vengeful, and often given to the disease of overrating the point technology had reached, as opposed to what it would reach later.
But he dominates the RN of his era, and mostly for the better.
If you don't know who Fisher was, look him up. Fascinating guy. Royal Navy officer from 1860 to 1910, then First Sea Lord. Completely reorganized and rebuilt the Royal Navy in the decade before WWI. Designed HMS Dreadnought. Churchill's best buddy. Great dancer (no kidding). As I said, fascinating guy.
It's an excellent book, too. Morris has apparently been historically stalking Fisher since the 1950s, so has a huge mass of anecdotes, trivia, personal accounts, visits to places he lived, and even memorabilia. The biggest flaw is that the book has almost no photos -- just a portrait frontespiece of Jacky in his prime.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 09:15 AM (q0pa5)
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Got it, of course, though Morris is a real creep. But I had to. If you want some fun, get hold of Fisher's own memoir, Memories and Records. There is a lot in Churchill's World Crisis about him, especially the first 2 volumes.
He was a brilliant crank, devious, vengeful, and often given to the disease of overrating the point technology had reached, as opposed to what it would reach later.
But he dominates the RN of his era, and mostly for the better.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 09:33 AM (LMs+g)
110
Lehane's a dynamite storyteller.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
I prefer his earlier detective series ( books like "Prayers for Rain").
Great characters. Good noir-ish plots. Snappy action.
Some nice twists.
Rather than his later stuff.
But, there's no denying that he's a very good writer and storyteller.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 05, 2020
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I have all of his Patrick and Angie PI novels. When Ben Affleck directed his brother Casey along with Michelle Monaghan in the adaptation of Gone, Baby, Gone, I realized he was a fantastic director. Somehow the entire look of the film exactly matched what I had pictured in my mind -- settings, people (except Casey's casting, which was off to me) -- as I read the novel. It may have been a coincidence, but Affleck really captured the look and spirit of what Lehane had written.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
I prefer his earlier detective series ( books like "Prayers for Rain").
Great characters. Good noir-ish plots. Snappy action.
Some nice twists.
Rather than his later stuff.
But, there's no denying that he's a very good writer and storyteller.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 05, 2020
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I have all of his Patrick and Angie PI novels. When Ben Affleck directed his brother Casey along with Michelle Monaghan in the adaptation of Gone, Baby, Gone, I realized he was a fantastic director. Somehow the entire look of the film exactly matched what I had pictured in my mind -- settings, people (except Casey's casting, which was off to me) -- as I read the novel. It may have been a coincidence, but Affleck really captured the look and spirit of what Lehane had written.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 05, 2020 09:33 AM (rpbg1)
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You could tell from the look on the silly bastard's face that he desperately wanted to edit the movie to pieces.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 09:29 AM (2JVJo)
I can see many movies being re-edited to please today's sensibilities. They should be seen as they were originally created, especially if they are to be studied as "art".
Editing for ideological purity is another good reason to have paper books instead of only digital versions.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 09:29 AM (2JVJo)
I can see many movies being re-edited to please today's sensibilities. They should be seen as they were originally created, especially if they are to be studied as "art".
Editing for ideological purity is another good reason to have paper books instead of only digital versions.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 09:33 AM (ONvIw)
112
A shame that AT has no one at the wheel.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at July 05, 2020 09:24 AM (lW69B)
It's really a dogshit site with ads out the wazz. I understand the need to bankroll a website but it used to be not nearly as bad as it's become.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at July 05, 2020 09:24 AM (lW69B)
It's really a dogshit site with ads out the wazz. I understand the need to bankroll a website but it used to be not nearly as bad as it's become.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 05, 2020 09:33 AM (y7DUB)
113
> Catherine the Great was a German princess who had to learn to speak Russian as an adult.
Toward the end they were more German by blood than Russian.
Same thing with the English monarchy.
Those Germans had their drawbacks, but they were a fecund bunch.
Toward the end they were more German by blood than Russian.
Same thing with the English monarchy.
Those Germans had their drawbacks, but they were a fecund bunch.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 05, 2020 09:33 AM (hKLpI)
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Last night I watched Yankee Doodle Dandy on TCM. Naturally, the soiboi host had to warn us, in portentious tones, that since TCM (unfortunately) airs its movies uncut, we were going to see a short blackface scene and we had to understand that it was coming.
You could tell from the look on the silly bastard's face that he desperately wanted to edit the movie to pieces.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 09:29 AM (2JVJo)
Maybe he should have warned his viewers not to watch the news this morning since blacks were actually killed by other blacks in NYC, Chicago, SC and more
You could tell from the look on the silly bastard's face that he desperately wanted to edit the movie to pieces.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 09:29 AM (2JVJo)
Maybe he should have warned his viewers not to watch the news this morning since blacks were actually killed by other blacks in NYC, Chicago, SC and more
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 09:34 AM (85Gof)
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And a serious lack of wokeness.
Posted by: pep at July 05, 2020 09:29 AM (v16oJ)
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The Vikings entirely lacked any institutional mechanism for the promotion of capable wimmenz or minorities. I know, hard to believe.
Posted by: pep at July 05, 2020 09:29 AM (v16oJ)
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The Vikings entirely lacked any institutional mechanism for the promotion of capable wimmenz or minorities. I know, hard to believe.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 09:34 AM (wPVhA)
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And since by the time I've posted this, we'll be past 100 - cancel culture has come to my town. The morning paper has a story about some activist who wants the statue of a woman who escaped the Indians in the late 1600s to be taken down because it is - you guessed it - "racist."
I've already been on the phone with my city councilor, asking to speak to the whole committee. I'm going to propose that we not only tear down the statue, but also bulldoze her house, the park which memorializes her landing and the landing place of our first settlers, since all of them glorify the arrival of racist whites who slaughtered the peaceful Indians.
And I am going to urge the abolition of the entire city, since it's built on land stolen from the Indians.
I'm hoping pushing this nonsense to the limit will show its absurdity.
I've already been on the phone with my city councilor, asking to speak to the whole committee. I'm going to propose that we not only tear down the statue, but also bulldoze her house, the park which memorializes her landing and the landing place of our first settlers, since all of them glorify the arrival of racist whites who slaughtered the peaceful Indians.
And I am going to urge the abolition of the entire city, since it's built on land stolen from the Indians.
I'm hoping pushing this nonsense to the limit will show its absurdity.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 09:34 AM (2JVJo)
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Writing Update: I did nothing. Took the week off.
Next week I'll do the edits and reformat the book for publication.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
So
You also made 7419$ working from home last week.
And what is the link for your books? I am on a book buying spree, Take my Moneys.
Next week I'll do the edits and reformat the book for publication.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
So
You also made 7419$ working from home last week.
And what is the link for your books? I am on a book buying spree, Take my Moneys.
Posted by: Miklos, who likes paper at July 05, 2020 09:35 AM (QzkSJ)
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So to go viking was to go sailing up rivers and inlets and pillage the village.
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It takes a pillage to raze a town.
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It takes a pillage to raze a town.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 09:35 AM (LMs+g)
119
Or, to speak of what really matters, the first Emma Peel season of the Avengers was B&W, the 2nd was color. (Or should I say "colour"? Anyway, that defined puberty for me.)
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020
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True. I have the Emma Peel episodes on DVD, and those B & W episodes are very good.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020
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True. I have the Emma Peel episodes on DVD, and those B & W episodes are very good.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 05, 2020 09:35 AM (rpbg1)
120
Ahoy, bookfagz!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 05, 2020 09:35 AM (XTmyE)
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yes Greg Iles is like Grisham, if he had applied itself, he's quite far left, so the Kennedy assasination and a host of other horrors wend through Natchez. its kind of a conceivable theory in this dark Fauknerian tale,
Posted by: thomas hobbes at July 05, 2020 09:36 AM (hMlTh)
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The rest of my reading was Eumenides, the last part of Aeschylus' trilogy and a lot of stories for the grandsons. We read a lot about George Washington.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 09:29 AM (ONvIw)
A Greek man walks into a tailor's shop and holds up a pair of pants with a hole in them. He asks, "Eumenides?"
"Yes," says the tailor. "Euripedes?"
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 09:29 AM (ONvIw)
A Greek man walks into a tailor's shop and holds up a pair of pants with a hole in them. He asks, "Eumenides?"
"Yes," says the tailor. "Euripedes?"
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 09:36 AM (2JVJo)
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The Romanov dynasty was remarkably German in its composition, and the Russians seemed to have this odd attraction/repulsion towards Germany as a result.
Germany making a pain of itself probably the reason. The hate set in after WWI and very seriously WWII. It was not much there prior to the wars.
The Romanov dynasty was remarkably German in its composition, and the Russians seemed to have this odd attraction/repulsion towards Germany as a result.
Germany making a pain of itself probably the reason. The hate set in after WWI and very seriously WWII. It was not much there prior to the wars.
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 09:36 AM (zr5Kq)
124
What's the rumpus?
Posted by: Grump928© at July 05, 2020 09:37 AM (jbtTP)
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Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
Oh.
I can read everything 'cause Kindle Unlimited.
Just bought a book anyway, 'cause paper.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
Oh.
I can read everything 'cause Kindle Unlimited.
Just bought a book anyway, 'cause paper.
Posted by: Miklos, eagerly awaiting what the postman might bring at July 05, 2020 09:37 AM (QzkSJ)
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It occurs to me that air war simulations are all
about the cockpit experience. Nobody seems to think of air war beyond
winning dogfights.
For instance, in modern war, would it make sense to hold back your
air forces at first, to let the other guy's best pilots get chewed up by
air defenses? One can argue it worked for the RAF vs. Luftwaffe.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 09:31 AM (q0pa5)
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The Air Force does place a heavy emphasis on tactics.
Operationally, air combat is difficult to simulate because there is no front, flank or rear. It basically comes down to resource allocation. Also, air campaigns are typically to support sea or land objectives, which further complicates simulation because someone (the referees?) has to track on the other services actions.
The Air Force had robust wargaming during the Cold War, effectively wiped it out during the 90s, and is now struggling to rebuild it because we no longer have unopposed use of the air.
about the cockpit experience. Nobody seems to think of air war beyond
winning dogfights.
For instance, in modern war, would it make sense to hold back your
air forces at first, to let the other guy's best pilots get chewed up by
air defenses? One can argue it worked for the RAF vs. Luftwaffe.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 09:31 AM (q0pa5)
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The Air Force does place a heavy emphasis on tactics.
Operationally, air combat is difficult to simulate because there is no front, flank or rear. It basically comes down to resource allocation. Also, air campaigns are typically to support sea or land objectives, which further complicates simulation because someone (the referees?) has to track on the other services actions.
The Air Force had robust wargaming during the Cold War, effectively wiped it out during the 90s, and is now struggling to rebuild it because we no longer have unopposed use of the air.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020 09:37 AM (cfSRQ)
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122: I laughed!
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 09:37 AM (ONvIw)
128
Last night I watched Yankee Doodle Dandy on TCM. Naturally, the soiboi host had to warn us, in portentious tones, that since TCM (unfortunately) airs its movies uncut, we were going to see a short blackface scene and we had to understand that it was coming.
You could tell from the look on the silly bastard's face that he desperately wanted to edit the movie to pieces.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 09:29 AM (2JVJo)
I love love love that movie. I was going to watch it yesterday but apparently my cable package doesn't include TCM. Now I'm glad.
You could tell from the look on the silly bastard's face that he desperately wanted to edit the movie to pieces.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 09:29 AM (2JVJo)
I love love love that movie. I was going to watch it yesterday but apparently my cable package doesn't include TCM. Now I'm glad.
Posted by: Jordan61 at July 05, 2020 09:38 AM (uc1j5)
129
I probably should read Bored of the Rings
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2020 09:38 AM (6f16T)
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62 ... Another vote for Tolkien's "Unfinished Tales". AH Lloyd got it right. It is delightful reading for any LOTR fans. I've got it on Kindle but always read from my hardcover edition.
Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2020 09:38 AM (7EjX1)
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> The Vikings entirely lacked any institutional mechanism for the promotion of capable wimmenz or minorities. I know, hard to believe.
On other hand, Freydis Eriksdottir, Leif Erikson's sister, once drove off an attack by a band of peace-loving Native Americans by going after them with a sword, topless and nine months pregnant. The Indians buggered off.
The same Freydis also caused controversy because her two male companions in another exploration voyage were both murdered in their sleep, apparently by her.
Not the kind of woman you wanted to piss off.
On other hand, Freydis Eriksdottir, Leif Erikson's sister, once drove off an attack by a band of peace-loving Native Americans by going after them with a sword, topless and nine months pregnant. The Indians buggered off.
The same Freydis also caused controversy because her two male companions in another exploration voyage were both murdered in their sleep, apparently by her.
Not the kind of woman you wanted to piss off.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 05, 2020 09:38 AM (hKLpI)
Posted by: pep at July 05, 2020 09:38 AM (v16oJ)
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Did a bit of re-reading this past week: _Fisher's Face_, by Jan Morris.
Jacky Fisher turns up in several bios of Edward VII, since both he and the King were advocates of naval power.
Fisher was very proud of his ability as a dancer, and at court functions was nearly always first to hit the dance floor and last to leave. Women adored being his partner. . .
Except for the one time he so far forgot himself as to ask Queen Alexandra to dance. "Certainly not!" she spat.
Jacky Fisher turns up in several bios of Edward VII, since both he and the King were advocates of naval power.
Fisher was very proud of his ability as a dancer, and at court functions was nearly always first to hit the dance floor and last to leave. Women adored being his partner. . .
Except for the one time he so far forgot himself as to ask Queen Alexandra to dance. "Certainly not!" she spat.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 09:38 AM (2JVJo)
Posted by: Miklos, with Librarian glasses at July 05, 2020 09:39 AM (QzkSJ)
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Sending you all my best thoughts on the reopening of your church, Fen.
It's going to be a glorious Sunday. Enjoy.
It's going to be a glorious Sunday. Enjoy.
Posted by: creeper at July 05, 2020 09:40 AM (XxJt1)
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83
I have a complete set of the 1929 edition. A few years ago, this wonderful used bookstore in NH was going out of business and selling all books for one dollar a box-full. So I grabbed boxes of Hollywood books as well as the Britannica and the two-volume Compact Oxford English Dictionary
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 09:25 AM (2JVJo)
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I have that one. Check out the entry on "Humour". After 2 sentences, I knew which initials I'd see at the end. GKC.
Mencken did Americanisms in language. Plus of course, many articles are from the older editions.
I have a complete set of the 1929 edition. A few years ago, this wonderful used bookstore in NH was going out of business and selling all books for one dollar a box-full. So I grabbed boxes of Hollywood books as well as the Britannica and the two-volume Compact Oxford English Dictionary
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 09:25 AM (2JVJo)
________
I have that one. Check out the entry on "Humour". After 2 sentences, I knew which initials I'd see at the end. GKC.
Mencken did Americanisms in language. Plus of course, many articles are from the older editions.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 09:40 AM (LMs+g)
137
I've seen some riotous fireworks last night. So
many ! Never seen so many ! All illegal of course. Biggest FU to the
left wing fascist who run the state and city.
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 09:33 AM (zr5Kq)
They made it clear for months they wouldn't allow any public fireworks displays, so naturally people decided that this was the year to do private ones.
many ! Never seen so many ! All illegal of course. Biggest FU to the
left wing fascist who run the state and city.
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 09:33 AM (zr5Kq)
They made it clear for months they wouldn't allow any public fireworks displays, so naturally people decided that this was the year to do private ones.
Posted by: cool breeze at July 05, 2020 09:40 AM (UGKMd)
138
I probably should read Bored of the Rings
Posted by: Skip
Checking it out is easy.
Returning it, not so easy.
Posted by: Skip
Checking it out is easy.
Returning it, not so easy.
Posted by: Miklos, who both read and saw at July 05, 2020 09:41 AM (QzkSJ)
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I probably should read Bored of the Rings
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2020
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Hilarious all the way through. Also look for Doon, the National Lampoon parody of Dune, in the same style (and with a glossary parodying Herbert's original that is worth the price of the book).
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2020
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Hilarious all the way through. Also look for Doon, the National Lampoon parody of Dune, in the same style (and with a glossary parodying Herbert's original that is worth the price of the book).
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 05, 2020 09:41 AM (rpbg1)
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129 ... "I probably should read Bored of the Rings"
Skip, It is over the top silly but fun. Some of the humor is New England specific, especially for the late 60s. The fake intro and blurbs are some of the funniest parts.
Skip, It is over the top silly but fun. Some of the humor is New England specific, especially for the late 60s. The fake intro and blurbs are some of the funniest parts.
Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2020 09:42 AM (7EjX1)
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Book progress this week: None.
(BTW, anyone who wants to buy my books can go through my nic, which takes you to my website).
I know of a cabin up in Maine with no TV or internet, which is where I was going to go for a long weekend to get through my edits, until I heard that the state fuzz are pulling over cars with out of state plates and demanding to know if they've quarantined themselves.
Going to try to get some work done today after this thread.
(BTW, anyone who wants to buy my books can go through my nic, which takes you to my website).
I know of a cabin up in Maine with no TV or internet, which is where I was going to go for a long weekend to get through my edits, until I heard that the state fuzz are pulling over cars with out of state plates and demanding to know if they've quarantined themselves.
Going to try to get some work done today after this thread.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 09:42 AM (2JVJo)
Posted by: Grump928© at July 05, 2020 09:42 AM (jbtTP)
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They had the hygiene and manners of barnyard animals and the temperament of a pack of wolves.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at July 05, 2020 09:25 AM (Wm5SB)
cit. my earlier comment about the subway on St Patrick's day.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at July 05, 2020 09:25 AM (Wm5SB)
cit. my earlier comment about the subway on St Patrick's day.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2020 09:42 AM (EZebt)
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Remember the "Books" character from those '80's B. Dalton Books commercials?
Man, what a cretin.
Man, what a cretin.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 05, 2020 09:43 AM (vuisn)
145
Editing for ideological purity is another good reason to have paper books instead of only digital versions.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 09:33 AM (ONvIw)
Wait, are you telling me at the end of the book Ahab didn't make friends with the white whale and dedicate his life to helping Greenpeace?
Editing for ideological purity is another good reason to have paper books instead of only digital versions.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 09:33 AM (ONvIw)
Wait, are you telling me at the end of the book Ahab didn't make friends with the white whale and dedicate his life to helping Greenpeace?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 05, 2020 09:43 AM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Miklos, noting that the most common Swedish hair color is Red, not blonde at July 05, 2020 09:43 AM (QzkSJ)
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Well, the Russians can be racist about anyone, including Germans. I read Oliphant's account of his travels in the Crimea region just before the Crimean War (he was totally not spying), and one thing that comes through is the social divide between descendants of German settlers invited into Russia by the Czars, and the native Russians. Basically the Russians of that era lumped Germans and Jews together as "clever foreigners who don't go to the right church and are too rich, probably from cheating us somehow."
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 09:43 AM (q0pa5)
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They made it clear for months they wouldn't allow any public fireworks displays, so naturally people decided that this was the year to do private ones.
Posted by: cool breeze at July 05, 2020 09:40 AM (UGKMd)
They were big ! and luxurious ! And everywhere !
Posted by: cool breeze at July 05, 2020 09:40 AM (UGKMd)
They were big ! and luxurious ! And everywhere !
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 09:43 AM (zr5Kq)
149
I've seen some riotous fireworks last night. So many ! Never seen so many ! All illegal of course. Biggest FU to the left wing fascist who run the state and city.
It made the news. This is hilarious:
https://bit.ly/38vvUxh
It made the news. This is hilarious:
https://bit.ly/38vvUxh
Posted by: t-bird at July 05, 2020 09:44 AM (Ypqc1)
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93 > With Chaucer it's always a little hard to tell for sure. Dude didn't speak good English.
Middling, at best.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 05, 2020 09:28 AM (hKLpI)
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Then check out Langland. They were near contemporaries, but Piers Plowman is MUCH tougher to read than Canterbury Tales. Orders of magnitude, because it was a country dialect, and not the London one Chaucer used, and which ended up dominant.
Notice that, for about 150 years we avoided the usual pattern of the capital's culture dominating our country. But no more. We get less exceptional annually, alas.
Middling, at best.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 05, 2020 09:28 AM (hKLpI)
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Then check out Langland. They were near contemporaries, but Piers Plowman is MUCH tougher to read than Canterbury Tales. Orders of magnitude, because it was a country dialect, and not the London one Chaucer used, and which ended up dominant.
Notice that, for about 150 years we avoided the usual pattern of the capital's culture dominating our country. But no more. We get less exceptional annually, alas.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 09:44 AM (LMs+g)
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I'm going to do the obligatory Waugh reference and lament that we are without both Evelyn and Auberon. We need their biting wit now more than ever.
One can only imagine with their vicious pens would make of BLM and the nonsense in Seattle.
Perhaps using the title White Mischief?
One can only imagine with their vicious pens would make of BLM and the nonsense in Seattle.
Perhaps using the title White Mischief?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020 09:44 AM (cfSRQ)
152
I had a pretty good week of reading despite the hellishly hot weather and no a/c. I don't know if Thucydides was more familiar with what was going on in Lesbos and Plataea during the fourth and fifth years of the Peloponnesian war but he sure describes the actions in detail that was previously lacking and ergo is more interesting. Actually in those areas the Athenians were kind of benevolent to the Mytilenes and the Spartans were unnecessarily hardassed to the Plataeans, at least from my omnipotent vantage point. So it's kind of complicated...
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 05, 2020 09:45 AM (y7DUB)
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149 I've seen some riotous fireworks last night. So many ! Never seen so many ! All illegal of course. Biggest FU to the left wing fascist who run the state and city.
It made the news. This is hilarious:
https://bit.ly/38vvUxh
Posted by: t-bird at July 05, 2020 09:44 AM (Ypqc1)
Playing outlawed tunes on outlawed pipes.
It made the news. This is hilarious:
https://bit.ly/38vvUxh
Posted by: t-bird at July 05, 2020 09:44 AM (Ypqc1)
Playing outlawed tunes on outlawed pipes.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 05, 2020 09:45 AM (XTmyE)
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Nike Remains Quiet After Kaepernick Calls Independence Day a Celebration of White Supremacy
cunts
cunts
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 09:46 AM (85Gof)
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A lot of my reading this week was on internet articles and printouts I've made concerning various aspects of hand loading ammunition. Besides interest in the topic, I find the subject relaxing.
Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2020 09:46 AM (7EjX1)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 09:46 AM (2JVJo)
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at July 05, 2020 09:46 AM (LkGkk)
158
That's nobody's business but the Turks.
Posted by: Grump928
You win Second Prize-a week in Lovely Rochester, New York, as the guest of the 10,000 Maniacs fan Club!
They coulda been giants, you know.
Posted by: Grump928
You win Second Prize-a week in Lovely Rochester, New York, as the guest of the 10,000 Maniacs fan Club!
They coulda been giants, you know.
Posted by: Miklosian Promotions with Buffalo Wings! at July 05, 2020 09:46 AM (QzkSJ)
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A.H. Lloyd,
You would like attending one of these main events.
mors.org
Drill into the site, they have a working group just for war gaming and game theory.
I used to chair the working group for air defense.
You would like attending one of these main events.
mors.org
Drill into the site, they have a working group just for war gaming and game theory.
I used to chair the working group for air defense.
Posted by: BifBewalski - sinis est culus at July 05, 2020 09:47 AM (VcFUs)
160
Racist or nationalistic with Russians as far as in Napoleonic era, and it was like that even earlier.
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2020 09:47 AM (6f16T)
161
Yes, I'm past 150k words on my novella, who da thunk it, with some twists, a slight altverse of events that happened a mere 8 years ago, with some thinly disguised characters,
Posted by: thomas hobbes at July 05, 2020 09:48 AM (hMlTh)
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It made the news. This is hilarious:
https://bit.ly/38vvUxh
Posted by: t-bird at July 05, 2020 09:44 AM (Ypqc1)
Different city, but believe you me, just like that, even more so ! So illegal, so go f'ck yourselves you overfed power-hungry progressive dictators.
https://bit.ly/38vvUxh
Posted by: t-bird at July 05, 2020 09:44 AM (Ypqc1)
Different city, but believe you me, just like that, even more so ! So illegal, so go f'ck yourselves you overfed power-hungry progressive dictators.
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 09:48 AM (zr5Kq)
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They coulda been giants, you know.
Posted by: Miklosian Promotions with Buffalo Wings! at July 05, 2020 09:46 AM (QzkSJ)
I did really like their first album.
Posted by: Miklosian Promotions with Buffalo Wings! at July 05, 2020 09:46 AM (QzkSJ)
I did really like their first album.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 05, 2020 09:48 AM (PiwSw)
164
By the way, I watched 1917 this weekend. Good film. I'm proud of myself that when the colonel quotes:
"Down to Gehenna or up to the Throne,
He travels the fastest who travels alone."
. . . I immediately thought, "Sounds like Kipling." And so it proved: a poem called "The Winners" from 1888.
"Down to Gehenna or up to the Throne,
He travels the fastest who travels alone."
. . . I immediately thought, "Sounds like Kipling." And so it proved: a poem called "The Winners" from 1888.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 05, 2020 09:48 AM (rpbg1)
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Last night I watched Yankee Doodle Dandy on TCM. Naturally, the soiboi host had to warn us, in portentious tones, that since TCM (unfortunately) airs its movies uncut, we were going to see a short blackface scene and we had to understand that it was coming.
You could tell from the look on the silly bastard's face that he desperately wanted to edit the movie to pieces.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 09:29 AM (2JVJo)
Soiboi host probably didn't want the howling woke mob pounding down his door. Or losing his job. Or his bank suddenly refusing his business. Or..
You could tell from the look on the silly bastard's face that he desperately wanted to edit the movie to pieces.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 09:29 AM (2JVJo)
Soiboi host probably didn't want the howling woke mob pounding down his door. Or losing his job. Or his bank suddenly refusing his business. Or..
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at July 05, 2020 09:49 AM (LkGkk)
166
Was wondering if Tina was confirmed, I was sure it was as soon as mentioned, the non blond look was deceiving.
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2020 09:49 AM (6f16T)
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Wait, are you telling me at the end of the book Ahab didn't make friends with the white whale and dedicate his life to helping Greenpeace?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 05, 2020 09:43 AM (PiwSw)
You never know what will happen with digital copies ;-)
I do wonder about the crazy prices for Gulag Archipelago and books taking a dim view of communism. Did Solzhenitsyn just go out of style after the fall of the USSR or was he cancelled?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 05, 2020 09:43 AM (PiwSw)
You never know what will happen with digital copies ;-)
I do wonder about the crazy prices for Gulag Archipelago and books taking a dim view of communism. Did Solzhenitsyn just go out of style after the fall of the USSR or was he cancelled?
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 09:49 AM (ONvIw)
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Yes, I'm past 150k words on my novella, who da thunk it, with some twists, a slight altverse of events that happened a mere 8 years ago, with some thinly disguised characters,
Posted by: thomas hobbes at July 05, 2020
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Congratulations! But I think you crossed the border between novella and novel about 100K words ago. . . .
Posted by: thomas hobbes at July 05, 2020
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Congratulations! But I think you crossed the border between novella and novel about 100K words ago. . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 05, 2020 09:50 AM (rpbg1)
169
71 ... "We are having our first service in the church building today since the end of March (We have been meeting outside or at someone's house before that) If you could pray that the Spirit be present and things go well and people blessed, I would be most grateful. Thanks."
Fen,
Best of luck. Our prayers are with you.
Fen,
Best of luck. Our prayers are with you.
Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2020 09:50 AM (7EjX1)
170
The Romanov dynasty was remarkably German in its composition, and the Russians seemed to have this odd attraction/repulsion towards Germany as a result.
Germany making a pain of itself probably the reason. The hate set in after WWI and very seriously WWII. It was not much there prior to the wars.
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 09:36 AM (zr5Kq)
Giving Lenin safe passageway through the country from Zurich so he could fuck things up in Petrograd during WW1 can produce a bad attitude.
Germany making a pain of itself probably the reason. The hate set in after WWI and very seriously WWII. It was not much there prior to the wars.
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 09:36 AM (zr5Kq)
Giving Lenin safe passageway through the country from Zurich so he could fuck things up in Petrograd during WW1 can produce a bad attitude.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 05, 2020 09:50 AM (y7DUB)
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Perhaps using the title White Mischief?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author
I have "White Shadows in the South Seas" by Frederick O'Brien.
The illustrations are worth more than the prose.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author
I have "White Shadows in the South Seas" by Frederick O'Brien.
The illustrations are worth more than the prose.
Posted by: Miklos, happy under a palm tree at July 05, 2020 09:50 AM (QzkSJ)
172
164 By the way, I watched 1917 this weekend. Good film. I'm proud of myself that when the colonel quotes:
"Down to Gehenna or up to the Throne,
He travels the fastest who travels alone."
. . . I immediately thought, "Sounds like Kipling." And so it proved: a poem called "The Winners" from 1888.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Four of us from work saw that in the theater where it came out. All of said 'Kipling' at the same time too.
Horde mind and all.
"Down to Gehenna or up to the Throne,
He travels the fastest who travels alone."
. . . I immediately thought, "Sounds like Kipling." And so it proved: a poem called "The Winners" from 1888.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Four of us from work saw that in the theater where it came out. All of said 'Kipling' at the same time too.
Horde mind and all.
Posted by: BifBewalski - sinis est culus at July 05, 2020 09:50 AM (VcFUs)
173
The Vikings entirely lacked any institutional mechanism for the promotion of capable wimmenz or minorities. I know, hard to believe.
______
At another site, where people put quotes in their sigs, one guy had "The Assyrian policy of massacring conquered peoples failed to promote cultural diversity."
______
At another site, where people put quotes in their sigs, one guy had "The Assyrian policy of massacring conquered peoples failed to promote cultural diversity."
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 09:50 AM (LMs+g)
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A.H. Lloyd, I have a question, were the Spanish Anarchists Italian style Anarcho-Syndicalists, or did they have a different view on this?
I know a lot of the Anarchists came out of the Northern Spain unions, but I have also heard that some of the anarchist communes set up were so egalitarian they tried decreeing things like nudism to avoid class distinction.
I know a lot of the Anarchists came out of the Northern Spain unions, but I have also heard that some of the anarchist communes set up were so egalitarian they tried decreeing things like nudism to avoid class distinction.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2020 09:50 AM (WyVLE)
175
Nike Remains Quiet After Kaepernick Calls Independence Day a Celebration of White Supremacy
cunts
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 09:46 AM (85Gof)
If he wants to get away from white supremacy Zimbabwe is a nice option for him and take the other anti-Americans with him
cunts
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 09:46 AM (85Gof)
If he wants to get away from white supremacy Zimbabwe is a nice option for him and take the other anti-Americans with him
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 05, 2020 09:51 AM (Ved+0)
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until I heard that the state fuzz are pulling over cars with out of state plates and demanding to know if they've quarantined themselves.
"Yes sir, officer, sir, I have kept immaculate quarantine".
Don't let the bastards keep you from Maine. Also, I really find it hard to believe they'd be that aggressive in tourist season.
"Yes sir, officer, sir, I have kept immaculate quarantine".
Don't let the bastards keep you from Maine. Also, I really find it hard to believe they'd be that aggressive in tourist season.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 05, 2020 09:51 AM (gd9RK)
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Nike Remains Quiet After Kaepernick Calls Independence Day a Celebration of White Supremacy
cunts
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 09:46 AM (85Gof)
If he wants to get away from white supremacy Zimbabwe is a nice option for him and take the other anti-Americans with him
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 05, 2020 09:51 AM (Ved+0)
Sure but my vile accusation was more directed at nike and the commies running that bullshit company
cunts
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 09:46 AM (85Gof)
If he wants to get away from white supremacy Zimbabwe is a nice option for him and take the other anti-Americans with him
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 05, 2020 09:51 AM (Ved+0)
Sure but my vile accusation was more directed at nike and the commies running that bullshit company
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 09:52 AM (85Gof)
178
Soiboi host probably didn't want the howling woke mob pounding down his door. Or losing his job. Or his bank suddenly refusing his business. Or..
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at July 05, 2020 09:49 AM (LkGkk)
Before showing the movie, TCM ran a short about the history of blackface in movies. Spolier: it was bad, bad, bad.
One of the "professors" interviewed made the point that he didn't think people should be stopped from watching blackface movies, but his body language and intonations gave off a distinct impression that he wouldn't mind if the negatives were hunted down and destroyed.
TCM is rapidly turning into a garbage site.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at July 05, 2020 09:49 AM (LkGkk)
Before showing the movie, TCM ran a short about the history of blackface in movies. Spolier: it was bad, bad, bad.
One of the "professors" interviewed made the point that he didn't think people should be stopped from watching blackface movies, but his body language and intonations gave off a distinct impression that he wouldn't mind if the negatives were hunted down and destroyed.
TCM is rapidly turning into a garbage site.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 09:52 AM (2JVJo)
179
Speaking of places of worship, my favorite craft brewery resumed limited operating hours this past week, pending DeWine not being ordered by his dominatrix health director to refuck the state's economy.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 05, 2020 09:53 AM (y7DUB)
180
One of the two short stories I submitted last month has been bounced. It was to a podcast website, and looking at the editors, who are almost stereotypical woke leftists by their appearance alone, I'm not surprised.
However, their site emphasized that they wanted fantasy stories with action, which mine has; and the lead is female (a centaur, as it happens); and it was short enough, and filled with dialogue enough, that it would have been a good out-loud read. Ah, well.
However, their site emphasized that they wanted fantasy stories with action, which mine has; and the lead is female (a centaur, as it happens); and it was short enough, and filled with dialogue enough, that it would have been a good out-loud read. Ah, well.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 05, 2020 09:53 AM (rpbg1)
181
Nike Remains Quiet After Kaepernick Calls Independence Day a Celebration of White Supremacy
100% tariff on Chinese sweatshop shoes.
100% tariff on Chinese sweatshop shoes.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2020 09:53 AM (oVJmc)
182
This week I'm reading a Kindle owner's lending library book called What Lies Between Us by John Marrs. It's not bad. I'm about halfway through. It starts with a woman who is chained in her bedroom by her daughter; she has been there for two years. Through flashbacks, you gradually learn what led them to this circumstance.
Posted by: Jordan61 at July 05, 2020 09:54 AM (uc1j5)
183
The Romanov dynasty was remarkably German in its composition, and the
Russians seemed to have this odd attraction/repulsion towards Germany
as a result.
Germany making a pain of itself probably the reason. The hate set in
after WWI and very seriously WWII. It was not much there prior to the
wars.
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 09:36 AM (zr5Kq)
Most European royal families had a German on the throne at some point. England, Greece, Bulgaria, Romania
Russians seemed to have this odd attraction/repulsion towards Germany
as a result.
Germany making a pain of itself probably the reason. The hate set in
after WWI and very seriously WWII. It was not much there prior to the
wars.
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 09:36 AM (zr5Kq)
Most European royal families had a German on the throne at some point. England, Greece, Bulgaria, Romania
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 05, 2020 09:55 AM (2isCI)
184
I'm going to do the obligatory Waugh reference and lament that we are without both Evelyn and Auberon.
It is considered that Auberon Waugh created the term "cocktail hour".
Evelyn liked his drink too (the recipe for Evelyn Waugh's Noonday Refresher can be found in Kingsley Amis' "On Drink") but notwithstanding was the finest writer in the English language of the 20th Century.
It is considered that Auberon Waugh created the term "cocktail hour".
Evelyn liked his drink too (the recipe for Evelyn Waugh's Noonday Refresher can be found in Kingsley Amis' "On Drink") but notwithstanding was the finest writer in the English language of the 20th Century.
Posted by: The Ordeal Of Miklos Pinfold at July 05, 2020 09:55 AM (QzkSJ)
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Finishing up "The Splendid And The Vile," which is a light history of the Battle of Britain, with the focus on Churchill.
It's a fun read, and not intended to be a comprehensive history. Lots of personal information that may even be accurate!
It's a fun read, and not intended to be a comprehensive history. Lots of personal information that may even be accurate!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 05, 2020 09:55 AM (dLLD6)
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Sure but my vile accusation was more directed at nike and the commies running that bullshit company
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 09:52 AM (85Gof)
Send them there too.
Sure but my vile accusation was more directed at nike and the commies running that bullshit company
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 09:52 AM (85Gof)
Send them there too.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 05, 2020 09:56 AM (2isCI)
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One of the "professors" interviewed made the point that he didn't think people should be stopped from watching blackface movies, but his body language and intonations gave off a distinct impression that he wouldn't mind if the negatives were hunted down and destroyed.
It's really a fundamental bit of the Leftist personality-- that other people can't be trusted to see something and decide what to think about it on their own. They must be guided and controlled.
It's really a fundamental bit of the Leftist personality-- that other people can't be trusted to see something and decide what to think about it on their own. They must be guided and controlled.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2020 09:56 AM (oVJmc)
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162 It made the news. This is hilarious:
https://bit.ly/38vvUxh
Posted by: t-bird at July 05, 2020 09:44 AM (Ypqc1)
Different city, but believe you me, just like that, even more so ! So illegal, so go f'ck yourselves you overfed power-hungry progressive dictators.
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 09:48 AM (zr5Kq)
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When we were first married our apartment had a window where we could see Richmond's main fireworks display. And since we were newlyweds, it was better than going out to watch.
https://bit.ly/38vvUxh
Posted by: t-bird at July 05, 2020 09:44 AM (Ypqc1)
Different city, but believe you me, just like that, even more so ! So illegal, so go f'ck yourselves you overfed power-hungry progressive dictators.
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 09:48 AM (zr5Kq)
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When we were first married our apartment had a window where we could see Richmond's main fireworks display. And since we were newlyweds, it was better than going out to watch.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 09:56 AM (LMs+g)
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Finished up Shots Fired- a book of short stories by CJ Box. Like most books of short stories I have read, the stories vary in quality from average to excellent. Fans of Box will like.
Posted by: Charlotte at July 05, 2020 09:56 AM (AGhL6)
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100% tariff on Chinese sweatshop shoes.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2020 09:53 AM (oVJmc)
I like the way you think.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2020 09:53 AM (oVJmc)
I like the way you think.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 05, 2020 09:56 AM (dLLD6)
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Don't let the bastards keep you from Maine. Also, I really find it hard to believe they'd be that aggressive in tourist season.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 05, 2020 09:51 AM (gd9RK)
Yeah, it sounded odd to me, too, Bander. I have today and tomorrow off; I'm going to try to isolate myself as much as I can to work on the book and see what I can do.
On another subject, one of the reasons I love Yankee Doodle Dandy are the women's costumes, especially those of the chorus girls. Just scrumptious.
https://tinyurl.com/y7cfsfor
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 05, 2020 09:51 AM (gd9RK)
Yeah, it sounded odd to me, too, Bander. I have today and tomorrow off; I'm going to try to isolate myself as much as I can to work on the book and see what I can do.
On another subject, one of the reasons I love Yankee Doodle Dandy are the women's costumes, especially those of the chorus girls. Just scrumptious.
https://tinyurl.com/y7cfsfor
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 09:57 AM (2JVJo)
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Another Osprey owner here. There are very few books specifically on Byzantine armies, Crusader and Saracen armies, the Military Orders, etc. Very pleased with all of mine.
Posted by: El Superbeasto (nee Oedipus) thinks Masks are the new NPR Tote Bag at July 05, 2020 09:57 AM (qnaGV)
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a slight altverse of events that happened a mere 8 years ago
8 years ago... was Romney struck by lightning at the second debate?
8 years ago... was Romney struck by lightning at the second debate?
Posted by: t-bird at July 05, 2020 09:57 AM (1fg6a)
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I've seen some riotous fireworks last night. So many ! Never seen so many ! All illegal of course. Biggest FU to the left wing fascist who run the state and city.
Posted by: runner
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I expected riotous scolding from the Karens last night and this morning over the abundant and large displays of fireworks that went on last night. I'm shocked that there wasn't a single scold to be had, shocked!!!
I'm still reading the young adult series, Percy Jackson by a Rick Riordan. Nice, distraction from current events...complete fluff. Well written fluff but fluff none the less,
Posted by: runner
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I expected riotous scolding from the Karens last night and this morning over the abundant and large displays of fireworks that went on last night. I'm shocked that there wasn't a single scold to be had, shocked!!!
I'm still reading the young adult series, Percy Jackson by a Rick Riordan. Nice, distraction from current events...complete fluff. Well written fluff but fluff none the less,
Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at July 05, 2020 09:57 AM (UUBmN)
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. . . I immediately thought, "Sounds like Kipling." And so it proved: a poem called "The Winners" from 1888.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Four of us from work saw that in the theater where it came out. All of said 'Kipling' at the same time too.
Horde mind and all.
Posted by: BifBewalski - sinis est culus at July 05, 2020
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I might have read the poem once, long ago (I like his work very much), and it stuck in my memory.
I'd prefer to think I recognized Kipling's rhythm and style, though, like an art lover seeing a new-to-him painting and immediately knowing it was a Matisse or a Van Gogh.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Four of us from work saw that in the theater where it came out. All of said 'Kipling' at the same time too.
Horde mind and all.
Posted by: BifBewalski - sinis est culus at July 05, 2020
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I might have read the poem once, long ago (I like his work very much), and it stuck in my memory.
I'd prefer to think I recognized Kipling's rhythm and style, though, like an art lover seeing a new-to-him painting and immediately knowing it was a Matisse or a Van Gogh.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 05, 2020 09:57 AM (rpbg1)
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At another site, where people put quotes in their sigs, one guy had "The Assyrian policy of massacring conquered peoples failed to promote cultural diversity."
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 09:50 AM (LMs+g)
One of the more compelling reasons for the Athenians not massacring the Mytilenes was that they wouldn't get any future revenue from a barren wasteland.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 09:50 AM (LMs+g)
One of the more compelling reasons for the Athenians not massacring the Mytilenes was that they wouldn't get any future revenue from a barren wasteland.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 05, 2020 09:58 AM (y7DUB)
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8 years ago... was Romney struck by lightning at the second debate?
Posted by: t-bird at July 05, 2020 09:57 AM (1fg6a)
The pomade he uses is an excellent electrical conductor.
Posted by: t-bird at July 05, 2020 09:57 AM (1fg6a)
The pomade he uses is an excellent electrical conductor.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 05, 2020 09:58 AM (PiwSw)
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Ordered last week, received, and now rereading a book that I probably read a dozen times in my youth: The Horn of Roland "told by" Jay Williams. Long out of print, the copy I have now is slightly musty and was previously in the employ of an Indiana middle school. It's a great tale of heroism for a boy to read. . .or for a middle aged guy to relive the wonderment of his boyhood.
Posted by: Bert G at July 05, 2020 09:59 AM (OMsf+)
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Time for me to run out to the fish market before it gets too hot and then rains. I'll check back later, all.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 05, 2020 09:59 AM (rpbg1)
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Didn't Sarah Hoyt write a short story about an underground American patriot movement in a repressive future organizing an illegal July 4 fireworks display?
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 09:59 AM (fh5LM)
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One of the more compelling reasons for the Athenians not massacring the Mytilenes was that they wouldn't get any future revenue from a barren wasteland.
Posted by: Captain Hate
We'll see about that
Posted by: Captain Hate
We'll see about that
Posted by: Spartan Helots at July 05, 2020 10:00 AM (QzkSJ)
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It's really a fundamental bit of the Leftist
personality-- that other people can't be trusted to see something and
decide what to think about it on their own. They must be guided and
controlled.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2020 09:56 AM
This idea can be distilled down into one of their favorite phrases:
"You just don't know what's in your best interests."
personality-- that other people can't be trusted to see something and
decide what to think about it on their own. They must be guided and
controlled.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2020 09:56 AM
This idea can be distilled down into one of their favorite phrases:
"You just don't know what's in your best interests."
Posted by: Bert G at July 05, 2020 10:01 AM (OMsf+)
Posted by: Miklosian Cockney rhyming slang at July 05, 2020 10:02 AM (QzkSJ)
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David Hackett Fischer is my favorite historian and his books are highly readable and entertaining. He's a traditional historian who believes in - gasp! - contingency: the idea that history is made, and changed, by people making decisions and taking actions, for good or ill. Not by implacable, impersonal, inevitable forces.
Look at his book titles: "Paul Revere's Ride", "Washington's Crossing", "Champlain's Dream." It's a great man, followed by his history-changing action (Champlain's dream being his establishment of Canada.) I don't think that's an accident.
Look at his book titles: "Paul Revere's Ride", "Washington's Crossing", "Champlain's Dream." It's a great man, followed by his history-changing action (Champlain's dream being his establishment of Canada.) I don't think that's an accident.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at July 05, 2020 10:02 AM (j4zcI)
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Middling, at best.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
HA!
Posted by: The Miklos Tale
HA HA that made me laugh out loud
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
HA!
Posted by: The Miklos Tale
HA HA that made me laugh out loud
Posted by: Who knew at July 05, 2020 10:02 AM (SfO/T)
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A few days ago someone...NaCly maybe, recommended One Second After which is a work of fiction on the aftermath of nukes being detonated above the US.
It's a fun listen at work.
It's a fun listen at work.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at July 05, 2020 10:02 AM (IYHxL)
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Thank you for the tip about Smashwords. They'll be getting my patronage from now on.
By the way, I have a Kindle (a gift from my sister). It's a lovely piece of hardware, but the software is annoying as hell - always, Always, ALWAYS trying to sell me stuff! - and it won't display files in EPUB format (the open format for ebooks). However, if you plug it directly into your computer and mount it on your file system, you can directly load files that are in MOBI (i.e., Kindle proprietary) format into folder "documents", and the Kindle will make them available immediately.
Bonus: If you try to use the Kindle's download feature to download a file in EPS format, the Kindle will refuse to do it on the grounds that it can't handle an EPS file - but it lies! If you connect your Kindle to your computer and then directly load an EPS file into the "documents" folder, the Kindle will display it just like it does a MOBI file - no muss, no fuss. I use this feature to read sheet music on my Kindle: the notes are very small, but they're quite readable because the Kindle's resolution is so good.
Finally ... the Library of America has a free feature called "Story of the Week", in which they email you a free story from their catalogue each week. The LOA catalogue is a little spotty, but many of the books are well worth having, and physically, the books are excellent: clearly typeset, acid-free paper, sewn binding - with care, they'll outlive any of us. Recently, I picked up their volume of works by Cornelius Ryan, which includes "The Longest Day" and "A Bridge Too Far": history very well told indeed. And the Story of the Week occasionally sends along a gem. If you're interested, you can sign up at the Library of America's web site, loa.org
By the way, I have a Kindle (a gift from my sister). It's a lovely piece of hardware, but the software is annoying as hell - always, Always, ALWAYS trying to sell me stuff! - and it won't display files in EPUB format (the open format for ebooks). However, if you plug it directly into your computer and mount it on your file system, you can directly load files that are in MOBI (i.e., Kindle proprietary) format into folder "documents", and the Kindle will make them available immediately.
Bonus: If you try to use the Kindle's download feature to download a file in EPS format, the Kindle will refuse to do it on the grounds that it can't handle an EPS file - but it lies! If you connect your Kindle to your computer and then directly load an EPS file into the "documents" folder, the Kindle will display it just like it does a MOBI file - no muss, no fuss. I use this feature to read sheet music on my Kindle: the notes are very small, but they're quite readable because the Kindle's resolution is so good.
Finally ... the Library of America has a free feature called "Story of the Week", in which they email you a free story from their catalogue each week. The LOA catalogue is a little spotty, but many of the books are well worth having, and physically, the books are excellent: clearly typeset, acid-free paper, sewn binding - with care, they'll outlive any of us. Recently, I picked up their volume of works by Cornelius Ryan, which includes "The Longest Day" and "A Bridge Too Far": history very well told indeed. And the Story of the Week occasionally sends along a gem. If you're interested, you can sign up at the Library of America's web site, loa.org
Posted by: Brown Line at July 05, 2020 10:02 AM (S6ArX)
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Giving Lenin safe passageway through the country from Zurich so he could fuck things up in Petrograd during WW1 can produce a bad attitude.
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Eh. Minor. Very minor. Prior to WWI, it was the distrust of foreigners in general - Dutch, German, by the common folk. Then it became strict loathing of Germans after the two wars. Though the brothers in party faith - East Germany, got an exception. Prior to WWI, the upper crust had no problems, but the growing middle class consisted of many "Russophials", who loathed competition from foreigners, period.
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Eh. Minor. Very minor. Prior to WWI, it was the distrust of foreigners in general - Dutch, German, by the common folk. Then it became strict loathing of Germans after the two wars. Though the brothers in party faith - East Germany, got an exception. Prior to WWI, the upper crust had no problems, but the growing middle class consisted of many "Russophials", who loathed competition from foreigners, period.
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 10:03 AM (zr5Kq)
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A.H. Lloyd, I have a question, were the Spanish
Anarchists Italian style Anarcho-Syndicalists, or did they have a
different view on this?
I know a lot of the Anarchists came out
of the Northern Spain unions, but I have also heard that some of the
anarchist communes set up were so egalitarian they tried decreeing
things like nudism to avoid class distinction.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2020 09:50 AM (WyVLE)
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Everything in Spain was fragmented. Yes, there were Anarcho-Syndicalists, but there were other Anarchists as well. It was full-spectrum leftism arguing with itself.
My very-soon-to-be-published book contains a chapter speculating on what would have happened if the Republic won. Lots of possibilities, none of them good for your average Spaniard.
Franco probably was the least worst option.
Anarchists Italian style Anarcho-Syndicalists, or did they have a
different view on this?
I know a lot of the Anarchists came out
of the Northern Spain unions, but I have also heard that some of the
anarchist communes set up were so egalitarian they tried decreeing
things like nudism to avoid class distinction.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2020 09:50 AM (WyVLE)
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Everything in Spain was fragmented. Yes, there were Anarcho-Syndicalists, but there were other Anarchists as well. It was full-spectrum leftism arguing with itself.
My very-soon-to-be-published book contains a chapter speculating on what would have happened if the Republic won. Lots of possibilities, none of them good for your average Spaniard.
Franco probably was the least worst option.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020 10:03 AM (cfSRQ)
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Long out of print, the copy I have now is slightly musty and was previously in the employ of an Indiana middle school.
But the middle school boys will not read it.
Sad.
But the middle school boys will not read it.
Sad.
Posted by: Miklosian French style Shruggery at July 05, 2020 10:03 AM (QzkSJ)
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well there is that to consider, thucydides was a pericles partisan, like a kennedy era general, so everything is filtered through that perspective, although I don't think cleon comes off any better, ratifying the crushing of the spartans,
so you used general mola's epigraph as your title, Ace, you would think he would have thought what it would sound like,
so you used general mola's epigraph as your title, Ace, you would think he would have thought what it would sound like,
Posted by: thomas hobbes at July 05, 2020 10:04 AM (hMlTh)
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Before internet Osprey booklets were the only information on armies other than large hard cover books which I have quite a few of as well on Napoleonic armies.
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2020 10:05 AM (6f16T)
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Some weeks ago, Superego: Fathom by Frank J. Fleming was recommended here as a syfy comedy/adventure about a psychopathic hit man trying to grow a conscience guided by a souless artificial intelligence and his former hitchick girlfriend. While in no danger of winning a Nobel Prize for literature, it is fun. Anyway, one passage seemed ripped from today's headlines:
An advanced alien race that no one has ever encountered before? Nonsense. Have you ever seen one of those planets that decided to be 'self-sufficient' and close itself off from everyone else? They're always primitive little mudholes. That's just economics. You can't become advanced without trade - to do otherwise would be like breaking the laws of physics.
An advanced alien race that no one has ever encountered before? Nonsense. Have you ever seen one of those planets that decided to be 'self-sufficient' and close itself off from everyone else? They're always primitive little mudholes. That's just economics. You can't become advanced without trade - to do otherwise would be like breaking the laws of physics.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 05, 2020 10:05 AM (+y/Ru)
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Perhaps using the title White Mischief?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020 09:44 AM (cfSRQ)
"The Patchouli Scented Fainting-Couch of Outrage"
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020 09:44 AM (cfSRQ)
"The Patchouli Scented Fainting-Couch of Outrage"
Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2020 10:06 AM (WyVLE)
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sorry mr lloyd, yes the troll was active.
Posted by: thomas hobbes at July 05, 2020 10:06 AM (hMlTh)
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One thing that comes out of the Friedman book is how the NWC was countering the inevitable tide which comes, in peacetime, with new technology. That something I failed to emphasize in my marathon comments on Gordon's Rules of the Game.
But it's really central. What happened is that signalling came to be dominated by the signallers, and hence to emphasize "process over product". That is, the techniques of signalling were what mattered more than the results in battle (which of course was not experienced during "the long calm lee of Trafalgar.")
Gordon's book ends with a series of dicta about how purveyors of technology tend to divert attention to methods of use, rather than end goals. In the process they cement their status. Friedman's book is a good illustration of how to fight this.
BTW, one thing the NWC got wrong was air to air combat, in that they (a) overrated the rear guns of bombers, and (b) counted power by number of guns. Thus fighters were slighted. But again, they did get the wastage right.
But it's really central. What happened is that signalling came to be dominated by the signallers, and hence to emphasize "process over product". That is, the techniques of signalling were what mattered more than the results in battle (which of course was not experienced during "the long calm lee of Trafalgar.")
Gordon's book ends with a series of dicta about how purveyors of technology tend to divert attention to methods of use, rather than end goals. In the process they cement their status. Friedman's book is a good illustration of how to fight this.
BTW, one thing the NWC got wrong was air to air combat, in that they (a) overrated the rear guns of bombers, and (b) counted power by number of guns. Thus fighters were slighted. But again, they did get the wastage right.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 10:06 AM (LMs+g)
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One of my library listens was a cast production of The Song of Roland. From Blackstone publishing, a book I've had wanted to get to for a long time. It was very well done.
(Roland was brave but arrogant)
(Roland was brave but arrogant)
Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at July 05, 2020 10:07 AM (x8Q/V)
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Nike Remains Quiet After Kaepernick Calls Independence Day a Celebration of White Supremacy
cunts
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 09:46 AM (85Gof)
Silence Is Acceptance
Silence Is Violence
Calvinball Rules Stick
cunts
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 09:46 AM (85Gof)
Silence Is Acceptance
Silence Is Violence
Calvinball Rules Stick
Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2020 10:07 AM (WyVLE)
Posted by: Miklosian Illogic SA de CV at July 05, 2020 10:09 AM (QzkSJ)
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I think I read that the reason why there were so many German princess and princesses married off to various monarchs throughout Europe is their Protestant faith. Excellent marriage material - it was easier to convert a german princess to Eastern Orthodoxy or to some other Protestant faith, than a Catholic princess to anything. So you had your Hapsburgs on every Catholic throne in Europe and offsprings of minor German royalty everywhere else.
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 10:09 AM (zr5Kq)
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There were big private fireworks displays all across the skyline here in the People's Republic of MA, where even a sparkler is verboten. It was glorious!
Posted by: cool breeze at July 05, 2020 10:09 AM (UGKMd)
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Posted by: Brown Line at July 05, 2020 10:02 AM (S6ArX)
You can use the freeware Calibre Portable to convert ePub to Mobi.
Also, this is a good site for DRM-free public-domain books (mentioned here before)
https://standardebooks.org/
You can use the freeware Calibre Portable to convert ePub to Mobi.
Also, this is a good site for DRM-free public-domain books (mentioned here before)
https://standardebooks.org/
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 05, 2020 10:09 AM (PiwSw)
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On another subject, one of the reasons I love Yankee Doodle Dandy are the women's costumes, especially those of the chorus girls. Just scrumptious.
https://tinyurl.com/y7cfsfor
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 09:57 AM (2JVJo)
I loved Fay Templeton's dress with the striped skirt.
One of my favorite things about Yankee Doodle Dandy is James Cagney dancing down the stairs. He was amazing.
https://youtu.be/xlvB4xk4LNQ
https://tinyurl.com/y7cfsfor
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 09:57 AM (2JVJo)
I loved Fay Templeton's dress with the striped skirt.
One of my favorite things about Yankee Doodle Dandy is James Cagney dancing down the stairs. He was amazing.
https://youtu.be/xlvB4xk4LNQ
Posted by: Jordan61 at July 05, 2020 10:10 AM (uc1j5)
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Another Osprey owner here. There are very few books specifically on
Byzantine armies, Crusader and Saracen armies, the Military Orders, etc.
Very pleased with all of mine.
Posted by: El Superbeasto (nee Oedipus) thinks Masks are the new NPR Tote Bag at July 05, 2020 09:57 AM (qnaGV)
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They have some real gems. Their books on the Spanish Civil War are very focused, sometimes a little slanted (the International Brigades book comes to mind), and you have to collect a bunch of you want the full picture.
A nice feature is that they have a little ad in the back that says "If you want to know more about this topic, try these books..." which is how I put together my collection.
Osprey's book on the Nationalist Army was the only one that showed standard Spanish Army organization. Every other source - including online - focused on the Mixed Brigades. It was weird how this rather significant detail was buried.
Another Osprey owner here. There are very few books specifically on
Byzantine armies, Crusader and Saracen armies, the Military Orders, etc.
Very pleased with all of mine.
Posted by: El Superbeasto (nee Oedipus) thinks Masks are the new NPR Tote Bag at July 05, 2020 09:57 AM (qnaGV)
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They have some real gems. Their books on the Spanish Civil War are very focused, sometimes a little slanted (the International Brigades book comes to mind), and you have to collect a bunch of you want the full picture.
A nice feature is that they have a little ad in the back that says "If you want to know more about this topic, try these books..." which is how I put together my collection.
Osprey's book on the Nationalist Army was the only one that showed standard Spanish Army organization. Every other source - including online - focused on the Mixed Brigades. It was weird how this rather significant detail was buried.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020 10:11 AM (cfSRQ)
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runner yep, pretty much
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2020 10:11 AM (6f16T)
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(I guess Eastern Orthodoxy is not Protestant is it...)
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 10:11 AM (zr5Kq)
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Looking up Waugh's Noonday Reviver led me to a description of "Queen Victoria's Tipple" -- which was apparently a 2:1 mix of red wine and gin. Apparently that's what got her through all those endless state dinners.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 10:11 AM (fh5LM)
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One of my library listens was a cast production of The Song of Roland
We did that!
My partner did the role of Julie Andrews as the lesbian nun. That one?
We did that!
My partner did the role of Julie Andrews as the lesbian nun. That one?
Posted by: Oberlin grad Miklosa at July 05, 2020 10:11 AM (QzkSJ)
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As will be true for another month, I fear, my primary bookish activities are sorting and packing. Will move in Aug, away from the insanity which has taken over Virginia.
We've reached the point that it's primarily his/hers, by size. Books we both like go into either. It'll be a fearsome task to unpack them. I don't know why, but for some reason I seem to have a better sense of packing books than my wife does. Mostly in creating sections of a common size, to maximize each box, and also to avoid damage during shipping. Is that one of those right-brain/left-brain male/female things? I have a friend who thinks so.
We've reached the point that it's primarily his/hers, by size. Books we both like go into either. It'll be a fearsome task to unpack them. I don't know why, but for some reason I seem to have a better sense of packing books than my wife does. Mostly in creating sections of a common size, to maximize each box, and also to avoid damage during shipping. Is that one of those right-brain/left-brain male/female things? I have a friend who thinks so.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 10:12 AM (LMs+g)
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227 Looking up Waugh's Noonday Reviver led me to a description of "Queen Victoria's Tipple" -- which was apparently a 2:1 mix of red wine and gin. Apparently that's what got her through all those endless state dinners.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 10:11 AM (fh5LM)
Like the current queen and her Dubonnet
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 10:11 AM (fh5LM)
Like the current queen and her Dubonnet
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 10:12 AM (ONvIw)
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Beautiful state library in the pic above, BTW.
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 10:12 AM (zr5Kq)
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Always nice to see a book recommendation featured in the post, OM, thanks1. BTW, Hackett-Fischer disposes of the old myth that the Hessians were drunk or hung over when Washington attacked them. They were caught off guard, not because they were drunk, but because they didn't believe it was possible for Washington to cross the Delaware in such foul weather. To my mind, that makes Washington's accomplishment all the more miraculous. Let's hope America sees another miracle in November.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at July 05, 2020 10:12 AM (oWAzz)
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Osprey runs some pretty good sales on their site which is the best time to buy their books from them. I get most of mine through Amazon (almost always used) or from eBay where you can find some great deals.
Posted by: Cincinnatus61 at July 05, 2020 10:14 AM (QqIfn)
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Like the current queen and her Dubonnet
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 10:12 AM (ONvIw)
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Have you come far?
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 10:12 AM (ONvIw)
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Have you come far?
Posted by: Queen Lizzie at July 05, 2020 10:15 AM (cfSRQ)
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Franco probably was the least worst option.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020 10:03 AM (cfSRQ)
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Hitler would not have permitted any other.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020 10:03 AM (cfSRQ)
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Hitler would not have permitted any other.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2020 10:15 AM (EZebt)
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Apparently that's what got her through all those endless state dinners.
Posted by: Trimegistus
The Queen Mum, who lived to 101 (or thereabouts) was a Society Girl in the 20s, and is recorded in Evelyn Waugh's early novels.
Her habit was to drink no more than one bottle of champagne per day, and not more than half before lunch.
Posted by: Trimegistus
The Queen Mum, who lived to 101 (or thereabouts) was a Society Girl in the 20s, and is recorded in Evelyn Waugh's early novels.
Her habit was to drink no more than one bottle of champagne per day, and not more than half before lunch.
Posted by: Miklos shall not leave unless the King does at July 05, 2020 10:15 AM (QzkSJ)
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The "Noonday Reviver," by the way, was a mix of Guiness, ginger beer, and gin. A note with the recipe I found says it's probably only a reviver if you're a serious alcoholic.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 10:15 AM (fh5LM)
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♫ ♫ ♫
Baby, baby, you'll, get down on your knees for me
And you won't own me like you used to do, yeah
We had a riot, a riot, a riot you don't find everyday
So don't, don't, don't, don't let it slip away
You've lost that looting feeling
Whoa-oh that looting feeling
You've lost that looting feeling
Now it's gone. Gone. Gone.
/The Rioutous Brothers
Baby, baby, you'll, get down on your knees for me
And you won't own me like you used to do, yeah
We had a riot, a riot, a riot you don't find everyday
So don't, don't, don't, don't let it slip away
You've lost that looting feeling
Whoa-oh that looting feeling
You've lost that looting feeling
Now it's gone. Gone. Gone.
/The Rioutous Brothers
Posted by: Muldoon at July 05, 2020 10:16 AM (Fc5rx)
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Her habit was to drink no more than one bottle of champagne per day, and not more than half before lunch.
Posted by: Miklos shall not leave unless the King does at July 05, 2020 10:15 AM (QzkSJ)
Amateur.
Posted by: Miklos shall not leave unless the King does at July 05, 2020 10:15 AM (QzkSJ)
Amateur.
Posted by: Hillary (hic) Clinton at July 05, 2020 10:16 AM (PiwSw)
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The fireworks were crazy out here on Long Island despite them being forbidden...something tell me that screaming at Americans the last few months by Dems and Antifa and BLM that their country needs to be cancelled didn't sit well.
Posted by: Boswell at July 05, 2020 10:17 AM (32YRo)
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I think I read that the reason why there were so
many German princess and princesses married off to various monarchs
throughout Europe is their Protestant faith. Excellent marriage
material - it was easier to convert a german princess to Eastern
Orthodoxy or to some other Protestant faith, than a Catholic princess to
anything. So you had your Hapsburgs on every Catholic throne in Europe
and offsprings of minor German royalty everywhere else.
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 10:09 AM (zr5Kq)
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I'm sure the leap from Lutheran to nominally Orthodox was not difficult when one also considered the unfettered Imperial power than came with it.
If Paris is worth a mass, what is Moscow worth?
many German princess and princesses married off to various monarchs
throughout Europe is their Protestant faith. Excellent marriage
material - it was easier to convert a german princess to Eastern
Orthodoxy or to some other Protestant faith, than a Catholic princess to
anything. So you had your Hapsburgs on every Catholic throne in Europe
and offsprings of minor German royalty everywhere else.
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 10:09 AM (zr5Kq)
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I'm sure the leap from Lutheran to nominally Orthodox was not difficult when one also considered the unfettered Imperial power than came with it.
If Paris is worth a mass, what is Moscow worth?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020 10:17 AM (cfSRQ)
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kaepernick is mentally ill. His parents are white. They adopted him, raised him. He needs to resolve his mommy and daddy issues.
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 10:18 AM (zr5Kq)
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Read a few sections in Simon Schama's Landscape and Memory. Most of Brit history I find dull as dust but one exception in Sir Walter Raleigh. In the first place he was quite the whorehound. Secondly he was always in need of quick mega paydays to finance his profligate ways. This led him to try and find the ultimate snipe hunt, the gold city of El Dorado. Who knows what malaria driven hallucinations led people to believe something like that existed in such a pestilence ridden shithole but it's probably the same mindset of lottery ticket buyers. Anyway Schama had some vividly written passages of the poor fucks rowing boats in these stagnant sluggish rivers, sweating their asses off in English broadcloth before they finally reached a friendly native encampment with lots of naked women. That's the closest he came to Cash Explosion and went back so in debt that Elizabeth's successor said "come back with lots of gold or lose your noggin" with the expected results.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 05, 2020 10:19 AM (y7DUB)
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Love the Osprey books. For the illustrations if nothing else.
Not sure if it was because of last week's book thread or a mention elsewhere, but I picked up some free kindle versions of Armegeddon 2419 and The Airlords of Han by Philip Francis Nowlan. Basically, the novels that became Buck Rogers in the 25th Century. Haven't read them yet, but with that kind of pedigree, it can't be too bad.
Currently reading another indy ebook. Its basically written as a fairy tail. So, character goes on a journey, and weird things just happen around her. Turns out I don't really like the fairy tail format. Too random...
Not sure if it was because of last week's book thread or a mention elsewhere, but I picked up some free kindle versions of Armegeddon 2419 and The Airlords of Han by Philip Francis Nowlan. Basically, the novels that became Buck Rogers in the 25th Century. Haven't read them yet, but with that kind of pedigree, it can't be too bad.
Currently reading another indy ebook. Its basically written as a fairy tail. So, character goes on a journey, and weird things just happen around her. Turns out I don't really like the fairy tail format. Too random...
Posted by: Castle Guy at July 05, 2020 10:19 AM (Lhaco)
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If you are interested in "Stories of Strange Women", may I recommend "The Harlot By The Side Of The Road, Forbidden Tales of the Bible", by Jonathan Kirsch, Ballantine Books, 1997. For a sneak preview, just read the Book of Genesis.
Posted by: fenderbender at July 05, 2020 10:19 AM (r72iY)
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A book in the house when I was a kid: 100 Greatest Stories of WWII. Printed sometime around '52, as a guess. Read most, if not all.
Posted by: klaftern at July 05, 2020 10:20 AM (RuIsu)
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Churchill got a prescription for alcohol during an American visit under Prohibition.
"the quantity is naturally indefinite, but the minimum is..."
https://bit.ly/3isZybb
"the quantity is naturally indefinite, but the minimum is..."
https://bit.ly/3isZybb
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 05, 2020 10:20 AM (gd9RK)
Posted by: DJ Miklos, with a bullet! at July 05, 2020 10:20 AM (QzkSJ)
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The Song of Roland
♫ ♪
Roland, Roland, Roland
Keep them dogies, Roland.
Keep them dogies, Roland! Rawhide!
(whip crack)
♫ ♪
Roland, Roland, Roland
Keep them dogies, Roland.
Keep them dogies, Roland! Rawhide!
(whip crack)
Posted by: Muldoon at July 05, 2020 10:21 AM (Fc5rx)
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>What we don't talk about much or enough is the Leftist goal to kill humor, and, in a larger sense, joy.
The people in the gulag make more jokes than the people who run them.
The people in the gulag make more jokes than the people who run them.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 05, 2020 10:21 AM (LxTcq)
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Tina Louise. Before Gilligan she was thought of as a pretty good actress, not only beautiful but talented.
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I seem to remember that one of Tina Louise' "roles" was to act as a beard pretending to be Rock Hudson's girlfriend.
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I seem to remember that one of Tina Louise' "roles" was to act as a beard pretending to be Rock Hudson's girlfriend.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 05, 2020 10:21 AM (+y/Ru)
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I'm sure the leap from Lutheran to nominally Orthodox was not difficult when one also considered the unfettered Imperial power than came with it.
If Paris is worth a mass, what is Moscow worth?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020 10:17 AM (cfSRQ)
Right. From some minor princess living off that or other relative, to mother of all Russia, that is a lot of power.
I'm sure the leap from Lutheran to nominally Orthodox was not difficult when one also considered the unfettered Imperial power than came with it.
If Paris is worth a mass, what is Moscow worth?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020 10:17 AM (cfSRQ)
Right. From some minor princess living off that or other relative, to mother of all Russia, that is a lot of power.
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 10:21 AM (zr5Kq)
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"the quantity is naturally indefinite, but the minimum is..."
https://bit.ly/3isZybb
Posted by: Bandersnatch
I know.
I adhere to this.
Experts.
https://bit.ly/3isZybb
Posted by: Bandersnatch
I know.
I adhere to this.
Experts.
Posted by: Miklos will drink on the beaches, and on the landing grounds at July 05, 2020 10:22 AM (QzkSJ)
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I'm reading Exit Music, which is part of the Inspector John Rebus series by Ian Rankin.
I've ready many of them and I like them but they are highly predictable and follow a template.
Rebus, in his dogged pursuit of a murderer, drinks and smokes too much and generally behaves like an asshole. He runs afoul of CID and his superiors. Edinburgh gangster Big Ger Cafferty is involved somehow.
I haven't reached the part where Rebus gets beat up but he will.
Yet for all the predictability I like the series.
I think a lot of authors of series settle into a similar template.
I've ready many of them and I like them but they are highly predictable and follow a template.
Rebus, in his dogged pursuit of a murderer, drinks and smokes too much and generally behaves like an asshole. He runs afoul of CID and his superiors. Edinburgh gangster Big Ger Cafferty is involved somehow.
I haven't reached the part where Rebus gets beat up but he will.
Yet for all the predictability I like the series.
I think a lot of authors of series settle into a similar template.
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at July 05, 2020 10:22 AM (lgiXo)
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242 kaepernick is mentally ill. His parents are white. They adopted him, raised him. He needs to resolve his mommy and daddy issues.
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 10:18 AM (zr5Kq)
We should note that Karpernick's "mental illness" is earning him millions of dollars and a lot of attention at a time when, in actual fact, he is doing nothing but laying around his house playing Madden NFL 20 on his playstation.
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 10:18 AM (zr5Kq)
We should note that Karpernick's "mental illness" is earning him millions of dollars and a lot of attention at a time when, in actual fact, he is doing nothing but laying around his house playing Madden NFL 20 on his playstation.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2020 10:22 AM (V2Yro)
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I'd like to read "Champlain's Dream" next. This past week, what reading I've done has been selections from the "Oxford Book of Humorous Prose," published in the '80's. Some of the humor in it is so subtle I fail to see it. Other pieces (particularly the 19th century stuff) would never make it into any collection today. very un-Pc. the 19th century habit of writing in dialect (American frontiersmen or English Cockneys or Yorkshire men) becomes very tiresome.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at July 05, 2020 10:23 AM (oWAzz)
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During WWII Churchill got his science advisor Lindemann to calculate how much champagne he'd drunk over the course of his life. He was HIGHLY disappointed to learn it wasn't even one railroad carload.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 10:23 AM (fh5LM)
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Hitler would not have permitted any other.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2020 10:15 AM (EZebt)
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It wasn't really his call to make, though.
One thing I emphasize is that the Spanish Civil War was part of a larger picture for the foreign powers and that books that don't emphasize this, leave the reader confused.
Germany was actually very weak during much of the 1930s, especially in aircraft and tanks, so it's an open question how much more Hitler could send if the Russians went all-in.
An intriguing possibility that I address is what might happen if the Republic wins and then presses its advantage against Portugal and perhaps tries to topple France as well.
In that case, does the UK come in on the side of Italy and Germany? The UK has a treaty with Portugal, and if Spanish Communists crossed the frontier determined to spread revolution, pre-Holocaust Hitler is a lot more palatable as an ally than post-Holodomor Stalin.
Hitler would not have permitted any other.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 05, 2020 10:15 AM (EZebt)
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It wasn't really his call to make, though.
One thing I emphasize is that the Spanish Civil War was part of a larger picture for the foreign powers and that books that don't emphasize this, leave the reader confused.
Germany was actually very weak during much of the 1930s, especially in aircraft and tanks, so it's an open question how much more Hitler could send if the Russians went all-in.
An intriguing possibility that I address is what might happen if the Republic wins and then presses its advantage against Portugal and perhaps tries to topple France as well.
In that case, does the UK come in on the side of Italy and Germany? The UK has a treaty with Portugal, and if Spanish Communists crossed the frontier determined to spread revolution, pre-Holocaust Hitler is a lot more palatable as an ally than post-Holodomor Stalin.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020 10:23 AM (cfSRQ)
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I've got Mark Felton's book "Operation Swallow: American Soldiers' Remarkable Escape from Berga Concentration Camp" ready for pickup at the library.
Felton has a series of short videos on YouTube on little-known (to me) WWII history that I really enjoy.
Felton has a series of short videos on YouTube on little-known (to me) WWII history that I really enjoy.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2020 10:23 AM (Dc2NZ)
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well it was the theme of the second national treasure film, yes the logistics of making a city out of solid gold would seem ridiculous, such an overdependence on any one commodity was a shortcoming of mercantilism in general,
Posted by: thomas hobbes at July 05, 2020 10:23 AM (hMlTh)
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I'm hoping pushing this nonsense to the limit will show its absurdity.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 09:34 AM (2JVJo)
No, the irony will go right over the SJWs pointy little heads. They'll all be shrieking "Yes, let's do it!" when you finish your speech.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 09:34 AM (2JVJo)
No, the irony will go right over the SJWs pointy little heads. They'll all be shrieking "Yes, let's do it!" when you finish your speech.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at July 05, 2020 10:23 AM (LkGkk)
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We should note that Karpernick's "mental illness" is earning him millions of dollars and a lot of attention at a time when, in actual fact, he is doing nothing but laying around his house playing Madden NFL 20 on his playstation.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2020 10:22 AM (V2Yro)
good point
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2020 10:22 AM (V2Yro)
good point
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 10:24 AM (zr5Kq)
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Thanks for sharing the Washington stories - a timely reminder of the greatness of our founding fathers.
On my reading list this week, I started Gentleman Farmers by Loretta Malakie. I enjoyed her Love in the Age of Dispossession, and I've been looking forward to her next.
I also picked up Rules for Retrogrades at the suggestion of a commenter last week.
Have a happy Independence Day weekend, everyone!
On my reading list this week, I started Gentleman Farmers by Loretta Malakie. I enjoyed her Love in the Age of Dispossession, and I've been looking forward to her next.
I also picked up Rules for Retrogrades at the suggestion of a commenter last week.
Have a happy Independence Day weekend, everyone!
Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at July 05, 2020 10:25 AM (8k7x2)
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I'm sure the leap from Lutheran to nominally Orthodox was not difficult when one also considered the unfettered Imperial power than came with it.
If Paris is worth a mass, what is Moscow worth?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020 10:17 AM (cfSRQ)
Right. From some minor princess living off that or other relative, to mother of all Russia, that is a lot of power.
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 10:21 AM (zr5Kq)
The Germans who came to England to make up the new Royal Family, starting with George of Hanover, got an even better deal. In exchange for giving up Lutheranism, they got to be the absolute head of their very own Church.
If Paris is worth a mass, what is Moscow worth?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020 10:17 AM (cfSRQ)
Right. From some minor princess living off that or other relative, to mother of all Russia, that is a lot of power.
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 10:21 AM (zr5Kq)
The Germans who came to England to make up the new Royal Family, starting with George of Hanover, got an even better deal. In exchange for giving up Lutheranism, they got to be the absolute head of their very own Church.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2020 10:25 AM (V2Yro)
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He was HIGHLY disappointed to learn it wasn't even one railroad carload.
Posted by: Trimegistus
Fanne? Go talk to that English feller.
Me, him and that Kennedy gonna tie one on.
Posted by: Trimegistus
Fanne? Go talk to that English feller.
Me, him and that Kennedy gonna tie one on.
Posted by: Wilbur Mills (D) at July 05, 2020 10:25 AM (QzkSJ)
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I wrote my thesis on post-war nation building in the two Germanys. East Germany got positive press in the USSR media. But the *ahem* *cough cough* *giggle* "Reconstruction" of their German territories was an exercise in vengeance. They treated all their WWII European conquests like shit. But the Germans unsurprisingly got an extra-special ass-raping. They left no stone unturned, and stole absolutely everything; even the industrial plant was all dismantled and hauled back to Russia. Then they systematically turned the desolate waste they created into Europe's most dismal garrison state.
It was nation looting cloaked in the mantle of nation building.
It was nation looting cloaked in the mantle of nation building.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 05, 2020 10:25 AM (PBmdd)
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Fireworks here started at eight last night. It was still light but some of 'em just couldn't wait. Neighbor started on a pallet load of fireworks at nine. They went non-stop till ten-thirty.
Went to bed at one ayem. They were still blastng.
The first one went off this morning at eight. I love Oklahoma.
Went to bed at one ayem. They were still blastng.
The first one went off this morning at eight. I love Oklahoma.
Posted by: creeper at July 05, 2020 10:25 AM (XxJt1)
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Kamala Harris's wiki page is being changed rapidly, according to Insty. That would seem to be our VP nominee.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 05, 2020 10:26 AM (LxTcq)
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On prohibition, a sidelight in the Friedman is that he says Josephus Daniels was more interested in banning alcohol afloat than preparing for war. His name is the source of "cup of Joe" for coffee.
And the only thing US officers liked about Scapa Flow, when we sent the 6th Battle Squadron to join the Grand Fleet, was the fact that they could visit Brit ships and get drinks.
Ever notice that, whenever there was some joint conference in WWII, the banquets were always aboard the British ship? It wasn't for the cooking.
And the only thing US officers liked about Scapa Flow, when we sent the 6th Battle Squadron to join the Grand Fleet, was the fact that they could visit Brit ships and get drinks.
Ever notice that, whenever there was some joint conference in WWII, the banquets were always aboard the British ship? It wasn't for the cooking.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 10:26 AM (LMs+g)
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Speaking of Simon Schama, he also wrote a three-volume A History of Britain. I haven't re-read it in years, so I can't remember how good or bad it was, though nothing sticks out in my mind as being terrifically irritating.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 10:26 AM (2JVJo)
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The Germans who came to England to make up the new Royal Family, starting with George of Hanover, got an even better deal. In exchange for giving up Lutheranism, they got to be the absolute head of their very own Church.
Posted by: Tom Servo
heh
Posted by: Tom Servo
heh
Posted by: the Luo Tribe of Kenya at July 05, 2020 10:27 AM (QzkSJ)
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the tory government (either baldwin or chamberlain) would have little choice in the matter, they really couldn't affect the outcome much, because they had circumscribed themselves by the washington conference, in terms of naval forces, the german counterparts had no such hangups,
Posted by: thomas hobbes at July 05, 2020 10:27 AM (hMlTh)
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Better Kameltoe than Mooch
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2020 10:28 AM (6f16T)
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All right, folks, I've dawdled long enough. Going to make a late breakfast and get writing.
Hope you all have a lovely weekend.
Hope you all have a lovely weekend.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 10:28 AM (2JVJo)
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I've seen some riotous fireworks last night. So many ! Never seen so many ! All illegal of course. Biggest FU to the left wing fascist who run the state and city.
It made the news. This is hilarious:
https://bit.ly/38vvUxh
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Nope. Nope. Not gonna do it. You're not gonna make me like Californians.
It made the news. This is hilarious:
https://bit.ly/38vvUxh
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Nope. Nope. Not gonna do it. You're not gonna make me like Californians.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 05, 2020 10:28 AM (+y/Ru)
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Another recent re-read was _Newton and the Counterfeiter_ about Isaac Newton's tour of duty as Warden of the Mint (later Master of it as well). First he completely reworked the methods of minting coins, then he went after counterfeiters.
"The" counterfeiter was a guy named William Chaloner who was apparently the kingpin of the bogus coin business during the House of Orange era. Chaloner's enough of a bastard that you don't mind him getting into a battle of wits he's guaranteed to lose. (Spoiler: he loses. This is Newton, after all.)
"The" counterfeiter was a guy named William Chaloner who was apparently the kingpin of the bogus coin business during the House of Orange era. Chaloner's enough of a bastard that you don't mind him getting into a battle of wits he's guaranteed to lose. (Spoiler: he loses. This is Newton, after all.)
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 10:28 AM (fh5LM)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2020 10:28 AM (Dc2NZ)
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I loved Fay Templeton's dress with the striped skirt.
One of my favorite things about Yankee Doodle Dandy is James Cagney dancing down the stairs. He was amazing.
https://youtu.be/xlvB4xk4LNQ
Posted by: Jordan61 at July 05, 2020 10:10 AM (uc1j5)
Watch this now and then thank me later:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1F0lBnsnkE
One of my favorite things about Yankee Doodle Dandy is James Cagney dancing down the stairs. He was amazing.
https://youtu.be/xlvB4xk4LNQ
Posted by: Jordan61 at July 05, 2020 10:10 AM (uc1j5)
Watch this now and then thank me later:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1F0lBnsnkE
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at July 05, 2020 10:29 AM (LkGkk)
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Hope you all have a lovely weekend.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect
Loverly
In the movie it was loverly.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect
Loverly
In the movie it was loverly.
Posted by: Dick van Miklos at July 05, 2020 10:29 AM (QzkSJ)
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He needs to resolve his mommy and daddy issues.
And the fact that, if he were good enough, he'd still be playing.
And the fact that, if he were good enough, he'd still be playing.
Posted by: Ray Lewis at July 05, 2020 10:29 AM (8DRUP)
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OT, but I saw the best fireworks I have ever seen in my life last night. A Iraq War veteran who moved in a few doors down from my sister's place in NE Wisconsin put on the show from his dock. about 100 people gathered in his front lawn and I'm sure he spent thousands on the display, lighting up the sky over Green Bay. He told me that he spends more on Independence Day than on Christmas. before the show, he asked everyone to stand up and sing the National anthem.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at July 05, 2020 10:29 AM (oWAzz)
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I can second the recommendation for Osprey books.
I want to thank Ace for posting the Razorfist video in the sidebar about Elric v. the Witcher. The Witcher had been on my to read/play/watch list for a while. But since it appears to be a ripoff of the Elric of Melnibone books which I've read a couple of times, I guess I can skip it. Well, I'll probably watch the series because Henry Cavil's in it.
Almost finished with the first volume of The Outlander and also The Return of the King.
I want to thank Ace for posting the Razorfist video in the sidebar about Elric v. the Witcher. The Witcher had been on my to read/play/watch list for a while. But since it appears to be a ripoff of the Elric of Melnibone books which I've read a couple of times, I guess I can skip it. Well, I'll probably watch the series because Henry Cavil's in it.
Almost finished with the first volume of The Outlander and also The Return of the King.
Posted by: sinalco at July 05, 2020 10:30 AM (yODqO)
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In that case, does the UK come in on the side of Italy and Germany? The UK has a treaty with Portugal, and if Spanish Communists crossed the frontier determined to spread revolution, pre-Holocaust Hitler is a lot more palatable as an ally than post-Holodomor Stalin.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020 10:23 AM (cfSRQ)
Especially if Edward VIII is still on the throne.
The more I read and ponder the infamous Wallace Simpson affair that ended his reign (and yes, Edward was an absolute idiot for pushing it to that point), the more I am convinced that the entire thing was simply a pretext for the British Establishment to push Edward off the throne because of his notable pro-Hitler, pro-Fascist sympathies.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020 10:23 AM (cfSRQ)
Especially if Edward VIII is still on the throne.
The more I read and ponder the infamous Wallace Simpson affair that ended his reign (and yes, Edward was an absolute idiot for pushing it to that point), the more I am convinced that the entire thing was simply a pretext for the British Establishment to push Edward off the throne because of his notable pro-Hitler, pro-Fascist sympathies.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2020 10:30 AM (V2Yro)
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I must say, I have not missed Sky Sports gobbling Hamilton's knob.
Years ago, I was headed to a wedding in New Jersey with several friends. We were planning to visit the Washington's Crossing State Park, and as we drove, I said, "Yes, we will see where Washington crossed the river in the middle of the night to attack the Germans." "Uh...don't you mean the British?" "No."
Years ago, I was headed to a wedding in New Jersey with several friends. We were planning to visit the Washington's Crossing State Park, and as we drove, I said, "Yes, we will see where Washington crossed the river in the middle of the night to attack the Germans." "Uh...don't you mean the British?" "No."
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 05, 2020 10:31 AM (rWZ8Y)
Posted by: Unasleepyet Miklos at July 05, 2020 10:31 AM (QzkSJ)
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A.H. Lloyd;
Week by week, you're convincing me to buy your forthcoming book. But in the end as someone once said, sooner or later don't you run out of other people's money?
Week by week, you're convincing me to buy your forthcoming book. But in the end as someone once said, sooner or later don't you run out of other people's money?
Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at July 05, 2020 10:32 AM (x8Q/V)
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266 I wrote my thesis on post-war nation building in the two Germanys. East Germany got positive press in the USSR media. But the *ahem* *cough cough* *giggle* "Reconstruction" of their German territories was an exercise in vengeance. They treated all their WWII European conquests like shit. But the Germans unsurprisingly got an extra-special ass-raping. They left no stone unturned, and stole absolutely everything; even the industrial plant was all dismantled and hauled back to Russia. Then they systematically turned the desolate waste they created into Europe's most dismal garrison state.
It was nation looting cloaked in the mantle of nation building.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 05, 2020 10:25 AM (PBmdd)
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You know Lenin's theory of imperialism as the last stage of capitalism? It was his way of explaining why the projected end of capitalism hadn't happened, because the great powers used their empires to prop up their economies from collapsing under their "internal contradictions". (And, BTW, it wasn't an original idea of Lenin's, he just grafted it to Marx.)
Anyway, it's demonstrably false. The real money was the great economic powers trading with one another. Except in one case: The USSR actually did to its satellites exactly what Lenin said the capitalists did to their empires.
Funny how that works. Not exactly projection, as the USSR didn't yet exist when Lenin came up with it, but similar. Maybe it should be called "pre-projection."
It was nation looting cloaked in the mantle of nation building.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 05, 2020 10:25 AM (PBmdd)
________
You know Lenin's theory of imperialism as the last stage of capitalism? It was his way of explaining why the projected end of capitalism hadn't happened, because the great powers used their empires to prop up their economies from collapsing under their "internal contradictions". (And, BTW, it wasn't an original idea of Lenin's, he just grafted it to Marx.)
Anyway, it's demonstrably false. The real money was the great economic powers trading with one another. Except in one case: The USSR actually did to its satellites exactly what Lenin said the capitalists did to their empires.
Funny how that works. Not exactly projection, as the USSR didn't yet exist when Lenin came up with it, but similar. Maybe it should be called "pre-projection."
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 10:32 AM (LMs+g)
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Weird. Evidently Pixy decides at random whether the double line space you put in will actually show up. Sometimes it even does. More often there will be no break between paras. And about half the time even the space after a period disappears and the next sentence launches immediately.
I should shut up. At least it's running.
I should shut up. At least it's running.
Posted by: creeper at July 05, 2020 10:32 AM (XxJt1)
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I'm Here.Good Morning
Saw an interesting tweet from Elon Musk. 7 Things to tell you r children. I don't know how to convert to tiny url and I don't want to end up in the barrel so if someone can find the tweet and link, I think the horde will find it very interesting.(psst....I think he's on our side)
Saw an interesting tweet from Elon Musk. 7 Things to tell you r children. I don't know how to convert to tiny url and I don't want to end up in the barrel so if someone can find the tweet and link, I think the horde will find it very interesting.(psst....I think he's on our side)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 05, 2020 10:32 AM (+mn3h)
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Off to enjoy the day. I'll check in later.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 05, 2020 10:34 AM (Dc2NZ)
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Nope. Nope. Not gonna do it. You're not gonna make me like Californians.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 05, 2020 10:28 AM (+y/Ru)
LOL, some of the best, most vocal and most solid conservatives are from Eastern Europe or some other Socialist hell.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 05, 2020 10:28 AM (+y/Ru)
LOL, some of the best, most vocal and most solid conservatives are from Eastern Europe or some other Socialist hell.
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 10:34 AM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 05, 2020 10:34 AM (vtNpt)
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"The" counterfeiter was a guy named William Chaloner who was apparently the kingpin of the bogus coin business during the House of Orange era. Chaloner's enough of a bastard that you don't mind him getting into a battle of wits he's guaranteed to lose. (Spoiler: he loses. This is Newton, after all.)
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 10:28 AM (fh5LM)
I've read that story - it's like Isaac Newton was a 17th Century Bruce Wayne / Batman! And a pretty badass Batman at that.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 10:28 AM (fh5LM)
I've read that story - it's like Isaac Newton was a 17th Century Bruce Wayne / Batman! And a pretty badass Batman at that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2020 10:34 AM (V2Yro)
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creeper don't jinx us
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2020 10:35 AM (6f16T)
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Speaking of Simon Schama, he also wrote a three-volume A History of Britain. I haven't re-read it in years, so I can't remember how good or bad it was, though nothing sticks out in my mind as being terrifically irritating.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 10:26 AM (2JVJo)
I picked up one of those volumes at a book sale and haven't cracked it yet. His book on the French Revolution, Citizens is very encyclopedic in terms of covering *everything*. Jay Winik admits using it as his primary source document for the French part of The Great Upheaval and, based on having read both, Winik is the better narrator. Schama's book is very good though.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 10:26 AM (2JVJo)
I picked up one of those volumes at a book sale and haven't cracked it yet. His book on the French Revolution, Citizens is very encyclopedic in terms of covering *everything*. Jay Winik admits using it as his primary source document for the French part of The Great Upheaval and, based on having read both, Winik is the better narrator. Schama's book is very good though.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 05, 2020 10:35 AM (y7DUB)
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Saw an interesting tweet from Elon Musk. 7 Things to tell you r children. I don't know how to convert to tiny url and I don't want to end up in the barrel so if someone can find the tweet and link, I think the horde will find it very interesting.(psst....I think he's on our side)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 05, 2020 10:32 AM (+mn3h)
I only heard a variant of number 6. Which explains a a lot about me, no?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 05, 2020 10:32 AM (+mn3h)
I only heard a variant of number 6. Which explains a a lot about me, no?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 05, 2020 10:36 AM (vtNpt)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2020 10:36 AM (oVJmc)
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272 the tory government (either baldwin or chamberlain) would have little choice in the matter, they really couldn't affect the outcome much, because they had circumscribed themselves by the washington conference, in terms of naval forces, the german counterparts had no such hangups,
Posted by: thomas hobbes at July 05, 2020 10:27 AM (hMlTh)
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Germany WAS circumscribed. Post-Versailles their navy was strictly limited (granted that the Weimar Republic cheated all they could.) And in 1935, the Germans signed a limitation treaty with the Brits, limiting them to 35% of the RN. Again, there was plenty of cheating, but there's only so much you can do, and there wasn't enough time to do much.
Germany wouldn't have dared take on the RN before 1939. Even then, the war was too early for them. They really expected peace until 1944.
Not that Baldwin would have done shit. That much is true. Chamberlain, well, it depends. He wasn't much committed to much, really. More confusion than ill intent. (After all, to do him credit, he did start rearmament.)
Posted by: thomas hobbes at July 05, 2020 10:27 AM (hMlTh)
________
Germany WAS circumscribed. Post-Versailles their navy was strictly limited (granted that the Weimar Republic cheated all they could.) And in 1935, the Germans signed a limitation treaty with the Brits, limiting them to 35% of the RN. Again, there was plenty of cheating, but there's only so much you can do, and there wasn't enough time to do much.
Germany wouldn't have dared take on the RN before 1939. Even then, the war was too early for them. They really expected peace until 1944.
Not that Baldwin would have done shit. That much is true. Chamberlain, well, it depends. He wasn't much committed to much, really. More confusion than ill intent. (After all, to do him credit, he did start rearmament.)
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 10:37 AM (LMs+g)
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Hi Insom.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 05, 2020 10:38 AM (+mn3h)
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Pixy makes me use triple spacing for paragraph spaces.
Posted by: davidt at July 05, 2020 10:38 AM (l3+k2)
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It was nation looting cloaked in the mantle of nation building.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
Well.
heh
I did my first business in the COMECON (Hungarian-KGST) system.
Good times.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
Well.
heh
I did my first business in the COMECON (Hungarian-KGST) system.
Good times.
Posted by: MiklosIMPEX at July 05, 2020 10:39 AM (QzkSJ)
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Kamala Harris's wiki page is being changed rapidly, according to Insty. That would seem to be our VP nominee.
About 150 edits this month (i.e., a few days), mostly by an obsessive, 'NedFausa'.
About 150 edits this month (i.e., a few days), mostly by an obsessive, 'NedFausa'.
Posted by: t-bird at July 05, 2020 10:39 AM (Ypqc1)
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The Germans who came to England to make up the new
Royal Family, starting with George of Hanover, got an even better deal.
In exchange for giving up Lutheranism, they got to be the absolute
head of their very own Church.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2020 10:25 AM (V2Yro)
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The czars ran the Orthodox Church in Russia. Peter the Great abolished the position of Patriarch of Moscow, and instead Russia's church was run by a council of bishops appointed by the czar.
So...Russia was a pretty good gig.
Royal Family, starting with George of Hanover, got an even better deal.
In exchange for giving up Lutheranism, they got to be the absolute
head of their very own Church.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2020 10:25 AM (V2Yro)
---
The czars ran the Orthodox Church in Russia. Peter the Great abolished the position of Patriarch of Moscow, and instead Russia's church was run by a council of bishops appointed by the czar.
So...Russia was a pretty good gig.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020 10:39 AM (cfSRQ)
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Speaking of mass, gotta go!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 05, 2020 10:39 AM (cfSRQ)
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Tesla is now the most valuable car company on planet Earth.
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 10:40 AM (zr5Kq)
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Self-loathing, I'm sure.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2020 10:36 AM (oVJmc)
The parents, yep. The son is entirely self-loving and entitled.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2020 10:36 AM (oVJmc)
The parents, yep. The son is entirely self-loving and entitled.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 10:40 AM (ONvIw)
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299 Hi Insom.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 05, 2020 10:38 AM (+mn3h)
Hi there! Taking a leap of faith as to your existence here.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 05, 2020 10:38 AM (+mn3h)
Hi there! Taking a leap of faith as to your existence here.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 05, 2020 10:40 AM (vtNpt)
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I have a few blondey kraut cousins descended in part from a Hessian troop.
Posted by: klaftern at July 05, 2020 10:40 AM (RuIsu)
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306 Self-loathing, I'm sure.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2020 10:36 AM (oVJmc)
The parents, yep. The son is entirely self-loving and entitled.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 10:40 AM (ONvIw)
If I had a son like that I'd be self-loathing too. Well, even more self-loathing.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2020 10:36 AM (oVJmc)
The parents, yep. The son is entirely self-loving and entitled.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 10:40 AM (ONvIw)
If I had a son like that I'd be self-loathing too. Well, even more self-loathing.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 05, 2020 10:40 AM (vtNpt)
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I only heard a variant of number 6. Which explains a a lot about me, no?
Posted by: Insomniac
Sometimes a banana is just a banana?
Posted by: Insomniac
Sometimes a banana is just a banana?
Posted by: Dr. Miklos von Sigmundfreud at July 05, 2020 10:41 AM (QzkSJ)
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Jacky Fisher turns up in several bios of Edward VII, since both he and the King were advocates of naval power.
Fisher was very proud of his ability as a dancer, and at court
functions was nearly always first to hit the dance floor and last to
leave. Women adored being his partner. . .
Except for the one time he so far forgot himself as to ask Queen Alexandra to dance. "Certainly not!" she spat.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 09:38 AM (2JVJo)
She had polio as an adult and was permanently lame in one leg.
Fisher was very proud of his ability as a dancer, and at court
functions was nearly always first to hit the dance floor and last to
leave. Women adored being his partner. . .
Except for the one time he so far forgot himself as to ask Queen Alexandra to dance. "Certainly not!" she spat.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 05, 2020 09:38 AM (2JVJo)
She had polio as an adult and was permanently lame in one leg.
Posted by: wethal101@hotmail.com at July 05, 2020 10:41 AM (ZzVCK)
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OT
Not sure if it has been mentioned here. But one of the two people hit by that car in Seattle has died, Summer Taylor, 24. The guy who hit them, Dawit Kelete, only 27 himself, apparently entered the freeway by driving up an exit ramp, I suppose to avoid a police barricade. But then he was driving in the proper direction of traffic after that. Not sure why I feel pretty terrible about this. Terrible for Summer, terrible for Dawit. Hope this is all worth it for the people organizing these protests.
Not sure if it has been mentioned here. But one of the two people hit by that car in Seattle has died, Summer Taylor, 24. The guy who hit them, Dawit Kelete, only 27 himself, apparently entered the freeway by driving up an exit ramp, I suppose to avoid a police barricade. But then he was driving in the proper direction of traffic after that. Not sure why I feel pretty terrible about this. Terrible for Summer, terrible for Dawit. Hope this is all worth it for the people organizing these protests.
Posted by: MikeM at July 05, 2020 10:41 AM (jVBo5)
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If I had a son like that I'd be self-loathing too. Well, even more self-loathing.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 05, 2020 10:40 AM (vtNpt)
I'm sure they had a lot to do with that monster being what he is.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 05, 2020 10:40 AM (vtNpt)
I'm sure they had a lot to do with that monster being what he is.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 10:41 AM (ONvIw)
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Thanks to the folks praising David Hackett Fischer's books. The only one I've read is "Champlain's Dream", which was excellent. I see a trip to the used book store in my future for the Washington book.
Posted by: JTB at July 05, 2020 10:41 AM (7EjX1)
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''I should shut up. At least it's running.''
Ungrateful human. You try running in a wheel 24-7 and see if you don't miss a rung or 2.
Ungrateful human. You try running in a wheel 24-7 and see if you don't miss a rung or 2.
Posted by: Hamsters at July 05, 2020 10:42 AM (gLRfa)
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Tesla is now the most valuable car company on planet Earth.
Posted by: runner
The phrase "irrational exuberance" comes to mind.
Posted by: runner
The phrase "irrational exuberance" comes to mind.
Posted by: Mr. Andrea Mitchell-Greenspan at July 05, 2020 10:43 AM (QzkSJ)
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Posted by: MikeM at July 05, 2020 10:41 AM (jVBo5)
My parents told me when I was very young, "don't play in the street"...always took it to heart.
My parents told me when I was very young, "don't play in the street"...always took it to heart.
Posted by: BignJames at July 05, 2020 10:44 AM (X/Pw5)
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Not sure if it has been mentioned here. But one of the two people hit by that car in Seattle has died, Summer Taylor, 24. The guy who hit them, Dawit Kelete, only 27 himself, apparently entered the freeway by driving up an exit ramp, I suppose to avoid a police barricade. But then he was driving in the proper direction of traffic after that. Not sure why I feel pretty terrible about this. Terrible for Summer, terrible for Dawit. Hope this is all worth it for the people organizing these protests.
Posted by: MikeM at July 05, 2020 10:41 AM (jVBo5)
By the by, the driver who hit the blm demostrators is well get this BLACK
Posted by: MikeM at July 05, 2020 10:41 AM (jVBo5)
By the by, the driver who hit the blm demostrators is well get this BLACK
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 10:44 AM (85Gof)
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Good morning Hordemates.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 05, 2020 10:44 AM (axyOa)
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thank you , Insom, for acknowledging my presence. It is kind of like, if a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it, does it make a sound?. If I post a comment and no one responds, am I really here? It is a metaphysical conundrum.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 05, 2020 10:44 AM (+mn3h)
Posted by: JT at July 05, 2020 10:45 AM (arJlL)
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By the by, the driver who hit the blm demostrators is well get this BLACK
Posted by: Nevergiveup
what driver?
Posted by: Nevergiveup
what driver?
Posted by: MSM at July 05, 2020 10:45 AM (QzkSJ)
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Funny clip making the rounds of an excerpt from KCal 9 in So Cal.
shows aerial view of fireworks all over So Cal while the newswoman is shocked and unhappy that such a thing was occurring--didn't we listen to Newsom? Over 2 million views.
Beach was mobbed, despite occasional helicopter announcing that we were all to go home immediately.
They'd better ramp up the fraud in California
shows aerial view of fireworks all over So Cal while the newswoman is shocked and unhappy that such a thing was occurring--didn't we listen to Newsom? Over 2 million views.
Beach was mobbed, despite occasional helicopter announcing that we were all to go home immediately.
They'd better ramp up the fraud in California
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 10:45 AM (AwPyG)
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You know Lenin's theory of imperialism as the last stage of capitalism? It was his way of explaining why the projected end of capitalism hadn't happened, because the great powers used their empires to prop up their economies from collapsing under their "internal contradictions". (And, BTW, it wasn't an original idea of Lenin's, he just grafted it to Marx.)"
It's actually a very old idea, and Lenin's version was a bastardized corruption of it, giving it a Marxist interpretation. Many have noticed the cyclical nature of society, starting with Ibn Khaldun in the 1300's. Oswald Spengler expounded on the ideas, and Toynbee rewrote them into a more Anglicized version.
Ironically, the Marxist - Leninist version was almost foolishly optimistic. All the other say that, not long after your civilization reaches it's peak, it is going to rot due to it's own corruption and destroy itself, and there's nothing anyone can do to prevent that. Some form of Empire is the final stage for the simple reason that Physical Power reaches its peak, due to wealth and resources, just as the ability to maintain political control is lost, except for raw force.
It's actually a very old idea, and Lenin's version was a bastardized corruption of it, giving it a Marxist interpretation. Many have noticed the cyclical nature of society, starting with Ibn Khaldun in the 1300's. Oswald Spengler expounded on the ideas, and Toynbee rewrote them into a more Anglicized version.
Ironically, the Marxist - Leninist version was almost foolishly optimistic. All the other say that, not long after your civilization reaches it's peak, it is going to rot due to it's own corruption and destroy itself, and there's nothing anyone can do to prevent that. Some form of Empire is the final stage for the simple reason that Physical Power reaches its peak, due to wealth and resources, just as the ability to maintain political control is lost, except for raw force.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2020 10:45 AM (V2Yro)
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Is it wrong to ask where a 27-year-old driver got a Jag?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2020 10:46 AM (oVJmc)
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Posted by: MikeM at July 05, 2020 10:41 AM (jVBo5)
I don't feel at all terrible about it. They were on the same side, it appears. I'm sick of the "peaceful protests" lies too and the "silence is violence" crap, when the truth is "silence will get you violence, so pony up the cash and pay your tribute"
I don't feel at all terrible about it. They were on the same side, it appears. I'm sick of the "peaceful protests" lies too and the "silence is violence" crap, when the truth is "silence will get you violence, so pony up the cash and pay your tribute"
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 10:46 AM (ONvIw)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 05, 2020 10:46 AM (+y/Ru)
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thank you , Insom, for acknowledging my presence. It is kind of like, if a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it, does it make a sound?. If I post a comment and no one responds, am I really here? It is a metaphysical conundrum.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 05, 2020 10:44 AM (+mn3h)
I ponder the same things, especially in the book thread.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 05, 2020 10:44 AM (+mn3h)
I ponder the same things, especially in the book thread.
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at July 05, 2020 10:46 AM (lgiXo)
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Ungrateful human. You try running in a wheel 24-7 and see if you don't miss a rung or 2.
Posted by: Hamsters '
Liars. You hired Chinese rats to do it for you and pay them less than minimum wage - 1/10 of your food allotment.
Posted by: Hamsters '
Liars. You hired Chinese rats to do it for you and pay them less than minimum wage - 1/10 of your food allotment.
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 10:47 AM (zr5Kq)
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Physical Power reaches its peak, due to wealth and resources, just as the ability to maintain political control is lost, except for raw force.
Posted by: Tom Servo
Right side of history.
That's the ticket!
Posted by: Tom Servo
Right side of history.
That's the ticket!
Posted by: B. Soetoro at July 05, 2020 10:47 AM (QzkSJ)
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I find myself wondering now if the police have basically decided to let people rediscover why we have police.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 10:47 AM (fh5LM)
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Its a sad situation for the driver, shame for the protester but if you want to live don't play in traffic.
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2020 10:48 AM (6f16T)
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Just getting this in the name field.
Also Candace Savages "Crows: Encounters with the Wise Guys of the Avian World" is pretty fun and a quick read if you like birds.
Also Candace Savages "Crows: Encounters with the Wise Guys of the Avian World" is pretty fun and a quick read if you like birds.
Posted by: Charles Darwin Doing the Humpty Dance on the Interstate at July 05, 2020 10:48 AM (w1ZmK)
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don't feel at all terrible about it. They were on the same side, it appears. I'm sick of the "peaceful protests" lies too and the "silence is violence" crap, when the truth is "silence will get you violence, so pony up the cash and pay your tribute"
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 10:46 AM (ONvIw)
I'll go out on a limb here, I will assume the black driver is a career criminal and not on anyone's side by his own. But again it is a failure of a black culture failing to correct itself instead of blaming everything on whitey
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 10:46 AM (ONvIw)
I'll go out on a limb here, I will assume the black driver is a career criminal and not on anyone's side by his own. But again it is a failure of a black culture failing to correct itself instead of blaming everything on whitey
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 10:48 AM (85Gof)
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I ponder the same things, especially in the book thread.
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at July 05, 2020 10:46 AM (lgiXo)
I hear you. (-:
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at July 05, 2020 10:46 AM (lgiXo)
I hear you. (-:
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 05, 2020 10:49 AM (+mn3h)
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Not book related... last night's "eclipse," what they flipping flip happened? Did they cancel it because of the riots and/or China wuwu virus?
I looked. Big fat moon out there, no eclipse.
What gives?
I looked. Big fat moon out there, no eclipse.
What gives?
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 10:49 AM (hku12)
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Finally I read the last of Gogol's folkish tales, which Nabokov considered terrible which is perhaps unduly harsh, called "The Tale of How Ivan Ivanovich Quarreled With Ivan Nikoforovich". It's about two Rooski neighbors who get in an argument, clearly Ivanovich was being an obnoxious asshoe, and file suits against each other that drag on forever. This was written well before Bleak House and I wonder if Dickens didn't get the idea for Jarndyce v. Jarndyce from this. Anyway it was better than Vlad acts but I'm sure the best is to come.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 05, 2020 10:49 AM (y7DUB)
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Its a sad situation for the driver, shame for the protester but if you want to live don't play in traffic.
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2020 10:48 AM (6f16T)
no the driver is probably s crook and scumbag
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2020 10:48 AM (6f16T)
no the driver is probably s crook and scumbag
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 10:49 AM (85Gof)
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324
It's actually a very old idea, and Lenin's version was a bastardized corruption of it, giving it a Marxist interpretation. Many have noticed the cyclical nature of society, starting with Ibn Khaldun in the 1300's. Oswald Spengler expounded on the ideas, and Toynbee rewrote them into a more Anglicized version.
Ironically, the Marxist - Leninist version was almost foolishly optimistic. All the other say that, not long after your civilization reaches it's peak, it is going to rot due to it's own corruption and destroy itself, and there's nothing anyone can do to prevent that. Some form of Empire is the final stage for the simple reason that Physical Power reaches its peak, due to wealth and resources, just as the ability to maintain political control is lost, except for raw force.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2020 10:45 AM (V2Yro)
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Well, sometimes. But as Casey Stengel said about pitching beating hitting, "sometimes it doesn't always work."
The trouble with patterns of history is that there are always so many exceptions. And the closer you look, the more there are.
It's actually a very old idea, and Lenin's version was a bastardized corruption of it, giving it a Marxist interpretation. Many have noticed the cyclical nature of society, starting with Ibn Khaldun in the 1300's. Oswald Spengler expounded on the ideas, and Toynbee rewrote them into a more Anglicized version.
Ironically, the Marxist - Leninist version was almost foolishly optimistic. All the other say that, not long after your civilization reaches it's peak, it is going to rot due to it's own corruption and destroy itself, and there's nothing anyone can do to prevent that. Some form of Empire is the final stage for the simple reason that Physical Power reaches its peak, due to wealth and resources, just as the ability to maintain political control is lost, except for raw force.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2020 10:45 AM (V2Yro)
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Well, sometimes. But as Casey Stengel said about pitching beating hitting, "sometimes it doesn't always work."
The trouble with patterns of history is that there are always so many exceptions. And the closer you look, the more there are.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 10:50 AM (LMs+g)
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Is it wrong to ask where a 27-year-old driver got a Jag?
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Pretty easy to get, honestly. Spending $500/month on a lease or 9 year loan with a 485 credit score while living in a sh*thole is pretty common practice.
Look awesome rolling at the club, though.
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Pretty easy to get, honestly. Spending $500/month on a lease or 9 year loan with a 485 credit score while living in a sh*thole is pretty common practice.
Look awesome rolling at the club, though.
Posted by: Charles Darwin Doing the Humpty Dance on the Interstate at July 05, 2020 10:50 AM (w1ZmK)
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By the by, the driver who hit the blm demostrators is well get this BLACK
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 10:44 AM (85Gof)
which is why after 24 more hours go by you will never hear of this story again.
btw: 27 year old black guy with a new jag; either sports star or dealer. And this guy wasn't a sports star.
By the by, the driver who hit the blm demostrators is well get this BLACK
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 10:44 AM (85Gof)
which is why after 24 more hours go by you will never hear of this story again.
btw: 27 year old black guy with a new jag; either sports star or dealer. And this guy wasn't a sports star.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2020 10:50 AM (V2Yro)
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I'll go out on a limb here, I will assume the black driver is a career criminal and not on anyone's side by his own.
Based on?
Based on?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 05, 2020 10:50 AM (gd9RK)
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The Witcher had been on my to read/play/watch list for a while. But since it appears to be a ripoff of the Elric of Melnibone books which I've read a couple of times, I guess I can skip it. Well, I'll probably watch the series because Henry Cavil's in it.
He overstates the comparisons, to put it lightly.
He overstates the comparisons, to put it lightly.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 05, 2020 10:51 AM (KZzsI)
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Is it wrong to ask where a 27-year-old driver got a Jag?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2020 10:46 AM (oVJmc)
In Seattle? It's not off the wall. Might as well ask where he got a C-class or a Lexus. They're $40k new, and that model has been around for about five years.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2020 10:46 AM (oVJmc)
In Seattle? It's not off the wall. Might as well ask where he got a C-class or a Lexus. They're $40k new, and that model has been around for about five years.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 05, 2020 10:52 AM (t+qrx)
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But one of the two people hit by that car in Seattle has died, Summer Taylor, 24.
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Very pretty girl prior to the traumatic brain injury. Also the wreck, but the leftism is what ruined her. Literally. Shaved head on one side, long pink hair on the other, but the big problem is the bit about being on the interstate at night.
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Very pretty girl prior to the traumatic brain injury. Also the wreck, but the leftism is what ruined her. Literally. Shaved head on one side, long pink hair on the other, but the big problem is the bit about being on the interstate at night.
Posted by: Charles Darwin Doing the Humpty Dance on the Interstate at July 05, 2020 10:52 AM (w1ZmK)
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I find myself wondering now if the police have basically decided to let people rediscover why we have police.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 10:47 AM (fh5LM)
Not just citizens either. Working on reminding the politicians and their corporate bosses.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 10:47 AM (fh5LM)
Not just citizens either. Working on reminding the politicians and their corporate bosses.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 10:52 AM (hku12)
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I'll go out on a limb here, I will assume the black driver is a career criminal and not on anyone's side by his own.
Based on?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 05, 2020 10:50 AM (gd9RK)
His mug shot
His busting by a police roadblock to avoid the police
Speeding dangerously down roadway with people on it.
65 years of human experience
Based on?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 05, 2020 10:50 AM (gd9RK)
His mug shot
His busting by a police roadblock to avoid the police
Speeding dangerously down roadway with people on it.
65 years of human experience
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 10:52 AM (85Gof)
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Kamala Harris's wiki page is being changed rapidly, according to Insty. That would seem to be our VP nominee.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 05, 2020 10:26 AM (LxTcq)
"Willie Brown's c*ckholster" is no longer allowed by the Wikipedia stylebook
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 05, 2020 10:26 AM (LxTcq)
"Willie Brown's c*ckholster" is no longer allowed by the Wikipedia stylebook
Posted by: The Wikipedia Editors at July 05, 2020 10:52 AM (UGKMd)
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I thought the Witcher was kind of boring. Cavil's not that great.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 05, 2020 10:52 AM (+mn3h)
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You can strip DRM rights from books you get from Amazon as well, I'll try to dig up the old article I found about it. Its in a link saved somewhere.
I used to put my books up on Smashwords and a bunch of other sites; their quality requirements are much higher than Amazon to post a book on their store. But I sold 1 book in 3 years and dropped it after a while.
I used to put my books up on Smashwords and a bunch of other sites; their quality requirements are much higher than Amazon to post a book on their store. But I sold 1 book in 3 years and dropped it after a while.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 05, 2020 10:53 AM (KZzsI)
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I'll go out on a limb here, I will assume the black driver is a career criminal and not on anyone's side by his own. But again it is a failure of a black culture failing to correct itself instead of blaming everything on whitey
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 10:48 AM (85Gof)
Apparently a college grad and a sales manager for DoorDash in Seattle. Both of the victims were white.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 10:48 AM (85Gof)
Apparently a college grad and a sales manager for DoorDash in Seattle. Both of the victims were white.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 10:53 AM (ONvIw)
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As has been noted, it sucks a human died. It's also worth remembering that the chances are very strong she would dox anyone here and try her best to make you lose your job, your family, be SWATted, etc.
Posted by: Charles Darwin Doing the Humpty Dance on the Interstate at July 05, 2020 10:53 AM (w1ZmK)
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Well if driver is any kind of criminal maybe its bad karma then. But the act no matter what else he has done in past unless a getaway from a crime has no bearing on the accident.
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2020 10:54 AM (6f16T)
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I will again put in a plug for The Medici. If for nothing else than for the art and scenery as well as the very attractive actors most of whom are Italian and unknown here so easier to suspend disbelief.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 05, 2020 10:54 AM (+mn3h)
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The trouble with patterns of history is that there are always so many exceptions. And the closer you look, the more there are.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 10:50 AM (LMs+g)
You're right, of course. China seems to have been comfortable with "Empire" for 2300 years now, of course with a few ups and downs along the way.
that may be the only form that's even capable of any long term stability. Although when Xi dies, that'll be tested.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 10:50 AM (LMs+g)
You're right, of course. China seems to have been comfortable with "Empire" for 2300 years now, of course with a few ups and downs along the way.
that may be the only form that's even capable of any long term stability. Although when Xi dies, that'll be tested.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2020 10:55 AM (V2Yro)
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He should be ticketed for crossing the barricade. The rest was on the rioters.
Posted by: Charles Darwin Doing the Humpty Dance on the Interstate at July 05, 2020 10:55 AM (w1ZmK)
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ponder the same things, especially in the book thread.
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at July 05, 2020 10:46 AM (lgiXo)
I hear you. (-:
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 05, 2020 10:49 AM (+mn3h)
I find it kind of amusing to uncover what I can say today that will get ignored.
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at July 05, 2020 10:46 AM (lgiXo)
I hear you. (-:
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 05, 2020 10:49 AM (+mn3h)
I find it kind of amusing to uncover what I can say today that will get ignored.
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at July 05, 2020 10:55 AM (lgiXo)
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All right, time to Carpe diem. I will "see" you later !
Posted by: runner at July 05, 2020 10:56 AM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: JT at July 05, 2020 10:56 AM (arJlL)
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But the act no matter what else he has done in past unless a getaway from a crime has no bearing on the accident.
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2020 10:54 AM (6f16T)
?? He deliberatly broke thru a police barraicade?
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2020 10:54 AM (6f16T)
?? He deliberatly broke thru a police barraicade?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 10:56 AM (85Gof)
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New entry in the presidential sweepstakes.
ye@kanyewest
We must now realize the promise of America by trusting God, unifying our vision and building our future. I am running for president of the United States! #2020VISION
ye@kanyewest
We must now realize the promise of America by trusting God, unifying our vision and building our future. I am running for president of the United States! #2020VISION
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 05, 2020 10:56 AM (+y/Ru)
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Bye runner. Have a good day.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 05, 2020 10:57 AM (+mn3h)
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I want to encourage everyone to practice NSMS: No Social Media Sunday. Other than this site, I avoid all social media for one day. No facebook, no Twitter, no Instagram, etc. Just one day a week. I think we could send a pretty good message to these guys if their numbers dropped off noticeably on Sundays.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 05, 2020 10:57 AM (KZzsI)
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The NGU that is a getaway and a possible crime
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2020 10:57 AM (6f16T)
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Here's a thought: maybe the Jag driver is a black man who is just as fed up and disgusted with these dumbass protestors as everyone else. Someone should set up a crowdfunding site for his legal bills.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 10:58 AM (fh5LM)
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Sharon, my neck thanks you for turning the emoticon around. It's nice to lean right for a change.
Posted by: creeper at July 05, 2020 10:58 AM (XxJt1)
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Don't play in traffic.
Posted by: davidt at July 05, 2020 10:58 AM (l3+k2)
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?? He deliberatly broke thru a police barraicade?
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Drove around one, apparently. Same as the rioters. F*CK THE POLICE! AHH! CALL THE POLICE!!!
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Drove around one, apparently. Same as the rioters. F*CK THE POLICE! AHH! CALL THE POLICE!!!
Posted by: Charles Darwin Doing the Humpty Dance on the Interstate at July 05, 2020 10:58 AM (w1ZmK)
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?? He deliberatly broke thru a police barraicade?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 10:56 AM (85Gof)
Why were the Seattle Police putting up barricades to allow Antifa to shut down a US Interstate?
?? He deliberatly broke thru a police barraicade?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 10:56 AM (85Gof)
Why were the Seattle Police putting up barricades to allow Antifa to shut down a US Interstate?
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2020 10:58 AM (V2Yro)
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New entry in the presidential sweepstakes.
ye@kanyewest
We must now realize the promise of America by trusting God, unifying our vision and building our future. I am running for president of the United States! #2020VISION
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 05, 2020 10:56 AM (+y/Ru)
He's the one who's married to one of the fatass Kardashians, right?
Yeah... apparently this is where we're headed.
We all knew it, we just didn't want to admit it.
ye@kanyewest
We must now realize the promise of America by trusting God, unifying our vision and building our future. I am running for president of the United States! #2020VISION
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 05, 2020 10:56 AM (+y/Ru)
He's the one who's married to one of the fatass Kardashians, right?
Yeah... apparently this is where we're headed.
We all knew it, we just didn't want to admit it.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 10:58 AM (hku12)
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I already do no "social media" but this site.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2020 10:59 AM (V2Yro)
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I'm reading Exit Music, which is part of the Inspector John Rebus series by Ian Rankin.
I've ready many of them and I like them but they are highly predictable and follow a template.
Rebus, in his dogged pursuit of a murderer, drinks and smokes too much and generally behaves like an asshole. He runs afoul of CID and his superiors. Edinburgh gangster Big Ger Cafferty is involved somehow.
I haven't reached the part where Rebus gets beat up but he will.
Yet for all the predictability I like the series.
I think a lot of authors of series settle into a similar template.
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at July 05, 2020 10:22 AM (lgiXo)
I used to like the Rebus series quite a bit, but, yeah, the repetitiveness drove me away.
It was like eating the same damn cake every time. Only this time it has a few chocolate sprinkles on top, instead of colored sprinkles.
That's what drives me out of most series though, when I get tired of reading the only story that the author can write.
I've ready many of them and I like them but they are highly predictable and follow a template.
Rebus, in his dogged pursuit of a murderer, drinks and smokes too much and generally behaves like an asshole. He runs afoul of CID and his superiors. Edinburgh gangster Big Ger Cafferty is involved somehow.
I haven't reached the part where Rebus gets beat up but he will.
Yet for all the predictability I like the series.
I think a lot of authors of series settle into a similar template.
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at July 05, 2020 10:22 AM (lgiXo)
I used to like the Rebus series quite a bit, but, yeah, the repetitiveness drove me away.
It was like eating the same damn cake every time. Only this time it has a few chocolate sprinkles on top, instead of colored sprinkles.
That's what drives me out of most series though, when I get tired of reading the only story that the author can write.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 05, 2020 10:59 AM (dWwl8)
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Got here late. Greets, bookies, thanks OM!
OK, update: in professional editing mode now, to pare my book down to acceptable length. publisher's timetable has a late January 2021 release date.
all very exciting. stay tuned.
OK, update: in professional editing mode now, to pare my book down to acceptable length. publisher's timetable has a late January 2021 release date.
all very exciting. stay tuned.
Posted by: goatexchange at July 05, 2020 10:59 AM (PBIiu)
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Why were the Seattle Police putting up barricades to allow Antifa to shut down a US Interstate?
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2020 10:58 AM (V2Yro)
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It's funny because the chief issued a statement afterwards and said "gathering in the street is illegal and will no longer be tolerated"
After tolerating it for 19 days.
This death is on them and the rioters.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2020 10:58 AM (V2Yro)
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It's funny because the chief issued a statement afterwards and said "gathering in the street is illegal and will no longer be tolerated"
After tolerating it for 19 days.
This death is on them and the rioters.
Posted by: Charles Darwin Doing the Humpty Dance on the Interstate at July 05, 2020 10:59 AM (w1ZmK)
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Kamala Harris's wiki page is being changed rapidly, according to Insty. That would seem to be our VP nominee.
Posted by: BourbonChicken
Not Nikki Minal ?
Awwwwww.......
Posted by: BourbonChicken
Not Nikki Minal ?
Awwwwww.......
Posted by: JT at July 05, 2020 11:00 AM (arJlL)
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He deliberatly broke thru a police barraicade?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 10:56 AM (85Gof)
Why were the Seattle Police putting up barricades to allow Antifa to shut down a US Interstate?
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2020 10:58 AM (V2Yro)
I agree, but separate issue. And he was moving at a pretty fast clip also.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 10:56 AM (85Gof)
Why were the Seattle Police putting up barricades to allow Antifa to shut down a US Interstate?
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2020 10:58 AM (V2Yro)
I agree, but separate issue. And he was moving at a pretty fast clip also.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 11:00 AM (85Gof)
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Apparently a college grad and a sales manager for DoorDash in Seattle. Both of the victims were white.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 10:53 AM (ONvIw)
According to his LinkedIn: Washington State, class of 2015. Marketing. Pi Kappa Alpha.
Maybe that will mean something to someone, I don't know much about the school, program, or fraternity.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 10:53 AM (ONvIw)
According to his LinkedIn: Washington State, class of 2015. Marketing. Pi Kappa Alpha.
Maybe that will mean something to someone, I don't know much about the school, program, or fraternity.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 05, 2020 11:00 AM (t+qrx)
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365 Here's a thought: maybe the Jag driver is a black man who is just as fed up and disgusted with these dumbass protestors as everyone else. Someone should set up a crowdfunding site for his legal bills.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 10:58 AM (fh5LM)
I doubt it. Let him pay his own legal bills.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 10:58 AM (fh5LM)
I doubt it. Let him pay his own legal bills.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:01 AM (ONvIw)
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Calibre is the best software for managing your ebooks. It has a storefront for smashwords in the application but I've never used that before. Mostly I get ebooks directly from other sources, Humble Bundle deals, or rpg guides from board game companies, free books from Gutenburg, etc..
It manages all your ebooks, transfers your ebooks to your device, manages the non-DRM content on your device, allows you to search for new books to buy, converts between all major formats, and has a not too stellar eReader embedded within it if you really want to read using your pc.
But Calibre is very good at managing and converting from one format to another. To transfer on to my kindle paperwhite in its native format I just use the usb cable. However if you have a slightly smarter eReader that you can download apps on to there are Calibre apps for most of them that allow wireless transfers. I had an old fire HDX (which is still the best tablet amazon has ever made) and it transferred easily this way. But the paperwhite is easier on my eyes.
It manages all your ebooks, transfers your ebooks to your device, manages the non-DRM content on your device, allows you to search for new books to buy, converts between all major formats, and has a not too stellar eReader embedded within it if you really want to read using your pc.
But Calibre is very good at managing and converting from one format to another. To transfer on to my kindle paperwhite in its native format I just use the usb cable. However if you have a slightly smarter eReader that you can download apps on to there are Calibre apps for most of them that allow wireless transfers. I had an old fire HDX (which is still the best tablet amazon has ever made) and it transferred easily this way. But the paperwhite is easier on my eyes.
Posted by: banana Deam at July 05, 2020 11:01 AM (l6b3d)
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Apparently a college grad and a sales manager for DoorDash in Seattle. Both of the victims were white.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 10:53 AM (ONvIw)
According to his LinkedIn: Washington State, class of 2015. Marketing. Pi Kappa Alpha.
Maybe that will mean something to someone, I don't know much about the school, program, or fraternity.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 05, 2020 11:00 AM (t+qrx)
Actually I saw he was in college 2011-2017? And no record of him graduating?
But graduate or not, he is no saint here. And that is all I am saying.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 10:53 AM (ONvIw)
According to his LinkedIn: Washington State, class of 2015. Marketing. Pi Kappa Alpha.
Maybe that will mean something to someone, I don't know much about the school, program, or fraternity.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 05, 2020 11:00 AM (t+qrx)
Actually I saw he was in college 2011-2017? And no record of him graduating?
But graduate or not, he is no saint here. And that is all I am saying.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 11:02 AM (85Gof)
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Here's a thought: maybe the Jag driver is a black man who is just as fed up and disgusted with these dumbass protestors as everyone else. Someone should set up a crowdfunding site for his legal bills.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 10:58 AM (fh5LM)
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I'm guessing he was just doing his thing.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 10:58 AM (fh5LM)
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I'm guessing he was just doing his thing.
Posted by: Charles Darwin Doing the Humpty Dance on the Interstate at July 05, 2020 11:02 AM (w1ZmK)
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What a nightmare. I have to use this high tech (read expensive) septic system because of the high ground water around here. It decided to fail last night at 3 am. Then at 5 am. Then at 7 am.
It's on an alarm which of course went off at 3, 5 and 7. Repair guy just left. That was not the fireworks display I was looking for.
It's on an alarm which of course went off at 3, 5 and 7. Repair guy just left. That was not the fireworks display I was looking for.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2020 11:03 AM (ZLI7S)
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Here's a thought: maybe the Jag driver is a black man who is just as fed up and disgusted with these dumbass protestors as everyone else. Someone should set up a crowdfunding site for his legal bills.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 10:58 AM (fh5LM)
Yeah I'm kind of surprised that more people don't think this way. This guy might get just as railroaded as the Charlottesville guy, the verdict of which still pisses me off that more "conservative" legal sites didn't go ballistic on it.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 10:58 AM (fh5LM)
Yeah I'm kind of surprised that more people don't think this way. This guy might get just as railroaded as the Charlottesville guy, the verdict of which still pisses me off that more "conservative" legal sites didn't go ballistic on it.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 05, 2020 11:03 AM (y7DUB)
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OT, but I saw the best fireworks I have ever seen in my life last night. A Iraq War veteran who moved in a few doors down from my sister's place in NE Wisconsin put on the show from his dock. about 100 people gathered in his front lawn and I'm sure he spent thousands on the display, lighting up the sky over Green Bay. He told me that he spends more on Independence Day than on Christmas. before the show, he asked everyone to stand up and sing the National anthem.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V
Nice !
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V
Nice !
Posted by: JT at July 05, 2020 11:03 AM (arJlL)
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But graduate or not, he is no saint here. And that is all I am saying.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 11:02 AM (85Gof)
There were no saints in this situation. I'm clean out of fucks to give about protestors/rioters too.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 11:02 AM (85Gof)
There were no saints in this situation. I'm clean out of fucks to give about protestors/rioters too.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:04 AM (ONvIw)
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https://www.mintpressnews.com/ mass-tracking-covi-pass-immunity-passports-slated- roll-15-countries/269006/
Posted by: always ahead of the curve at July 05, 2020 11:04 AM (bYkx0)
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Our simulators are made by La Zee Boi. No homo.
Posted by: United States Chair Force at July 05, 2020 11:05 AM (yfUzb)
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>>> Yeah... apparently this is where we're headed. We all knew it, we just didn't want to admit it.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 10:58 AM
Goin' long on mountain dew futures
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 10:58 AM
Goin' long on mountain dew futures
Posted by: banana Deam at July 05, 2020 11:05 AM (l6b3d)
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Yeah I'm kind of surprised that more people don't think this way. This guy might get just as railroaded as the Charlottesville guy, the verdict of which still pisses me off that more "conservative" legal sites didn't go ballistic on it.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 05, 2020 11:03 AM (y7DUB)
Probably won't spend a day in jail and fines will be light.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 05, 2020 11:03 AM (y7DUB)
Probably won't spend a day in jail and fines will be light.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:05 AM (ONvIw)
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I don't do social media...unless you count YewTewb, which is the closest thing I have to TV. The downside to that is I can't flounce away when they offend me.
Of course it's hard for them to offend me if I don't go there to begin with. It all works out nicely.
Of course it's hard for them to offend me if I don't go there to begin with. It all works out nicely.
Posted by: creeper at July 05, 2020 11:05 AM (XxJt1)
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@370
I dunno, I wouldn't be surprised if this weren't a pro-Trump move.If that's the case, look out--Kanye has a big following.
I dunno, I wouldn't be surprised if this weren't a pro-Trump move.If that's the case, look out--Kanye has a big following.
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:06 AM (AwPyG)
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[H]ave you seen these Osprey Series books? I strongly recommend them for those who like military history
I love the Osprey books. I've got them from Ancient Egypt to NATO forces. Well done, quick reads with good illustrations or photos
I love the Osprey books. I've got them from Ancient Egypt to NATO forces. Well done, quick reads with good illustrations or photos
Posted by: TheQuietMan at July 05, 2020 11:06 AM (5tts3)
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Yeah I'm kind of surprised that more people don't think this way. This guy might get just as railroaded as the Charlottesville guy, the verdict of which still pisses me off that more "conservative" legal sites didn't go ballistic on it.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 05, 2020 11:03 AM (y7DUB)
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Probably won't spend a day in jail and fines will be l
light.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:05 AM (ONvIw)
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Yep. Going to a tad difficult to railroad a black white supremacist.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 05, 2020 11:03 AM (y7DUB)
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Probably won't spend a day in jail and fines will be l
light.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:05 AM (ONvIw)
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Yep. Going to a tad difficult to railroad a black white supremacist.
Posted by: Charles Darwin Doing the Humpty Dance on the Interstate at July 05, 2020 11:06 AM (w1ZmK)
394
Is any novelist good enough and creative enough to write a series without a template to follow?
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at July 05, 2020 11:06 AM (lgiXo)
395
There were no saints in this situation. I'm clean out of fucks to give about protestors/rioters too.
Most real stories don't have good guys. Just bad guys and worse guys.
Most real stories don't have good guys. Just bad guys and worse guys.
Posted by: Political Mad Libs at July 05, 2020 11:07 AM (4w/6s)
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:07 AM (AwPyG)
397
Yeah... apparently this is where we're headed. We all knew it, we just didn't want to admit it.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 10:58 AM
Goin' long on mountain dew futures
Posted by: banana Deam at July 05, 2020 11:05 AM (l6b3d)
It's got electrolytes!
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 10:58 AM
Goin' long on mountain dew futures
Posted by: banana Deam at July 05, 2020 11:05 AM (l6b3d)
It's got electrolytes!
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:07 AM (hku12)
398
But graduate or not, he is no saint here. And that is all I am saying.
That's not all you are saying. You said he's a career criminal. I'm sure the high paying Door Dash gig is just a cover for the pimping and dealing.
That's not all you are saying. You said he's a career criminal. I'm sure the high paying Door Dash gig is just a cover for the pimping and dealing.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 05, 2020 11:07 AM (gd9RK)
399
>>I dunno, I wouldn't be surprised if this weren't a pro-Trump move.If that's the case, look out--Kanye has a big following.
Any votes he gets, if he gets any at all, will come from Biden or from people who had no intention of voting.
Any votes he gets, if he gets any at all, will come from Biden or from people who had no intention of voting.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2020 11:07 AM (ZLI7S)
400
If guy? playing in traffic was white to Leftists and BLM he doesn't matter much now does he? All lives don't matter they say.
Not my belief of course, even Leftists are in the image of God.
Not my belief of course, even Leftists are in the image of God.
Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2020 11:08 AM (6f16T)
401
Kanye's support, whatever it might be, isn't going to take away from Trump's.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2020 11:08 AM (oVJmc)
402
I can't speak to the guys motives, and he seems like a white-collar guy from his LinkedIn... Maybe some kind of political reason. Anyway, he killed a Communist, so I'm unconcerned about this. If he's also a Communist, then all the better, because he's going down big time.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 05, 2020 11:08 AM (PBmdd)
403
I dunno, I wouldn't be surprised if this weren't a pro-Trump move.If that's the case, look out--Kanye has a big following.
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:06 AM (AwPyG)
Trump gives Pence cabinet post....Makes Kayne VP...could cause mass suicide on the left.
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:06 AM (AwPyG)
Trump gives Pence cabinet post....Makes Kayne VP...could cause mass suicide on the left.
Posted by: BignJames at July 05, 2020 11:09 AM (X/Pw5)
Posted by: Charles Darwin Doing the Humpty Dance on the Interstate at July 05, 2020 11:09 AM (w1ZmK)
405
Yep. Going to a tad difficult to railroad a black white supremacist.
Don't let the man hold you down !!!
Don't let the man hold you down !!!
Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at July 05, 2020 11:10 AM (4w/6s)
406
That's not all you are saying. You said he's a career criminal. I'm sure the high paying Door Dash gig is just a cover for the pimping and dealing.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 05, 2020 11:07 AM (gd9RK)
Well that I might be wrong about. Might be a bad assumption, but I bet his history is not clean
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 05, 2020 11:07 AM (gd9RK)
Well that I might be wrong about. Might be a bad assumption, but I bet his history is not clean
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 05, 2020 11:10 AM (85Gof)
407
@394
If it's a successful series, then you have to presume that the formula is the reason it's successful. That's what Steve Berry thinks, and he's not ashamed of using the same formula in his history thrillers--its what the readers are expecting.
I suppose the challenge is in coming up with new variations to make it interesting.
If it's a successful series, then you have to presume that the formula is the reason it's successful. That's what Steve Berry thinks, and he's not ashamed of using the same formula in his history thrillers--its what the readers are expecting.
I suppose the challenge is in coming up with new variations to make it interesting.
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:11 AM (AwPyG)
408
That's not all you are saying. You said he's a career criminal. I'm sure the high paying Door Dash gig is just a cover for the pimping and dealing.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 05, 2020 11:07 AM (gd9RK)
I just got a great idea...
Door Dash Pimpin' and Dealin' - You know it would work.
Would be a Fortune 500 level concern in about 3 years.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 05, 2020 11:07 AM (gd9RK)
I just got a great idea...
Door Dash Pimpin' and Dealin' - You know it would work.
Would be a Fortune 500 level concern in about 3 years.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:11 AM (hku12)
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:12 AM (AwPyG)
410
355 The trouble with patterns of history is that there are always so many exceptions. And the closer you look, the more there are.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 10:50 AM (LMs+g)
You're right, of course. China seems to have been comfortable with "Empire" for 2300 years now, of course with a few ups and downs along the way.
that may be the only form that's even capable of any long term stability. Although when Xi dies, that'll be tested.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2020 10:55 AM (V2Yro)
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Yes. I won't live to see the outcome, but I know of no other country that suffered what they have, at their own hands, and not by conquest. What will the result be, for a country which killed its own soul?
Of course, we and W Europe seem determined to follow their example.
One thing about historical China is that they created, early on, an enormous empire, but rarely (IIRC, only twice - Han and Manchu) tried to extend it, preferring neighboring vassals. Will they still take that attitude, granting that "neighboring vassals" will now be far more extensive than formerly?
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 10:50 AM (LMs+g)
You're right, of course. China seems to have been comfortable with "Empire" for 2300 years now, of course with a few ups and downs along the way.
that may be the only form that's even capable of any long term stability. Although when Xi dies, that'll be tested.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2020 10:55 AM (V2Yro)
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Yes. I won't live to see the outcome, but I know of no other country that suffered what they have, at their own hands, and not by conquest. What will the result be, for a country which killed its own soul?
Of course, we and W Europe seem determined to follow their example.
One thing about historical China is that they created, early on, an enormous empire, but rarely (IIRC, only twice - Han and Manchu) tried to extend it, preferring neighboring vassals. Will they still take that attitude, granting that "neighboring vassals" will now be far more extensive than formerly?
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 11:12 AM (LMs+g)
411
Goin' long on mountain dew futures
Posted by: banana Deam at July 05, 2020 11:05 AM (l6b3d)
It's got electrolytes!
Posted by: BurtTC
An' shit !
Posted by: banana Deam at July 05, 2020 11:05 AM (l6b3d)
It's got electrolytes!
Posted by: BurtTC
An' shit !
Posted by: JT at July 05, 2020 11:12 AM (arJlL)
412
Door dash would be a great cover for delivering drugs...just saying....
Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at July 05, 2020 11:12 AM (UUBmN)
413
I just realized I'm drinking coffee and goofing off on the internet in boxers and a wifebeater at 11am on a Sunday, when I could be outside making terrible decisions. See y'all later.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 05, 2020 11:13 AM (t+qrx)
414
Kanye's support, whatever it might be, isn't going to take away from Trump's.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2020 11:08 AM (oVJmc)
But Kim's azzzzz...
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2020 11:08 AM (oVJmc)
But Kim's azzzzz...
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:13 AM (hku12)
415
Kanye's been pretty pro-trump. The reason? They both have dragon blood. So, yeah.
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:13 AM (AwPyG)
416
You know, the more I think about it, that pink haired communist chick that got Mad Max Motorcycled was oppressing the black man by ruining the rest of his life, wasn't she?
SHE was the one who decided to be on the interstate while a black man was driving under the assumption that dumbasses weren't allowed to be on the 70mph road wearing black, dancing, and blocking traffic.
SHE was the one who decided to be on the interstate while a black man was driving under the assumption that dumbasses weren't allowed to be on the 70mph road wearing black, dancing, and blocking traffic.
Posted by: Charles Darwin Doing the Humpty Dance on the Interstate at July 05, 2020 11:14 AM (w1ZmK)
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Another fine Book Thread.
[performs manly bow to OM]
That IS some library. The woodwork is fantastic.
[performs manly bow to OM]
That IS some library. The woodwork is fantastic.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2020 11:14 AM (bPH26)
418
Strange women?
There is the Chinese version of the Amazons. A floating island surrounded by a sea that only the most shipwrecked of men may wash ashore on to spy the women living there.
There is the Chinese version of the Amazons. A floating island surrounded by a sea that only the most shipwrecked of men may wash ashore on to spy the women living there.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 05, 2020 11:14 AM (jYPaY)
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363 I want to encourage everyone to practice NSMS: No Social Media Sunday. Other than this site, I avoid all social media for one day. No facebook, no Twitter, no Instagram, etc. Just one day a week. I think we could send a pretty good message to these guys if their numbers dropped off noticeably on Sundays.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 05, 2020 10:57 AM (KZzsI)
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Depends on what you mean by "social media". There are a few more Sowell interviews out there I mean to listen to. But if you mean things like Twitter and Assbook, well, I don't use them already. Never have. Don't see the point.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 05, 2020 10:57 AM (KZzsI)
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Depends on what you mean by "social media". There are a few more Sowell interviews out there I mean to listen to. But if you mean things like Twitter and Assbook, well, I don't use them already. Never have. Don't see the point.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 11:15 AM (LMs+g)
420
I suspect Osprey is expensive for the same reason Jane's various books are: they are British, and that means paying in pounds one way or the other. (Thus, reflecting in a higher price in dollars.)
I've got a Jane's Encyclopedia of Aviation here that cost an arm and a leg when it was gotten for me as a Christmas present some 30 odd years ago. (But it is intense with information, to say the very least.)
I've got a Jane's Encyclopedia of Aviation here that cost an arm and a leg when it was gotten for me as a Christmas present some 30 odd years ago. (But it is intense with information, to say the very least.)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 05, 2020 11:15 AM (ejsiI)
421
And remember Kim Kardashian West worked with Trump on the black justice project. So, I bet we'll see an endorsement, maybe.
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:15 AM (AwPyG)
422
>>> Door Dash Pimpin' and Dealin' - You know it would work. Would be a Fortune 500 level concern in about 3 years.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:11 AM
Sounds like a late night HBO hidden camera "documentary" series. It would need a narrator with a smooth low voice.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:11 AM
Sounds like a late night HBO hidden camera "documentary" series. It would need a narrator with a smooth low voice.
Posted by: banana Deam at July 05, 2020 11:15 AM (l6b3d)
423
...yes, the ceiling in the pictured Austrian library is absolutely insane.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 05, 2020 11:15 AM (ejsiI)
424
SHE was the one who decided to be on the interstate while a black man was driving under the assumption that dumbasses weren't allowed to be on the 70mph road wearing black, dancing, and blocking traffic.
Posted by: Charles Darwin Doing the Humpty Dance on the Interstate at July 05, 2020 11:14 AM (w1ZmK)
But if the situation was reversed, more riots, more destruction, more "justified" violence in general. We can't make the blacks angry?
Posted by: Charles Darwin Doing the Humpty Dance on the Interstate at July 05, 2020 11:14 AM (w1ZmK)
But if the situation was reversed, more riots, more destruction, more "justified" violence in general. We can't make the blacks angry?
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:16 AM (ONvIw)
425
I'm extremely skeptical of any large-scale theories of history. Comparing America to Athens, or Rome, or the British Empire, is silly. For one thing, our "empire," such as it is, is a net expense for us, not a source of profit. Losing our "empire" around the world wouldn't make America poorer or weaker.
No, sometimes one can see things in history which look like other things, but only with the benefit of hindsight. Predicting the future is a mug's game.
No, sometimes one can see things in history which look like other things, but only with the benefit of hindsight. Predicting the future is a mug's game.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 11:17 AM (fh5LM)
426
313 If I had a son like that I'd be self-loathing too. Well, even more self-loathing.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 05, 2020 10:40 AM (vtNpt)
I'm sure they had a lot to do with that monster being what he is.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 10:41 AM (ONvIw)
There's good chance they did. However, there is many a tale around here of parents doing everything they can to raise their kids right and then they turn into SJW monsters, so who know.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 05, 2020 10:40 AM (vtNpt)
I'm sure they had a lot to do with that monster being what he is.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 10:41 AM (ONvIw)
There's good chance they did. However, there is many a tale around here of parents doing everything they can to raise their kids right and then they turn into SJW monsters, so who know.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 05, 2020 11:17 AM (vtNpt)
427
But Kim's azzzzz...
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:13 AM (hku12)
Good place to stash all those last minute discovered votes.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:13 AM (hku12)
Good place to stash all those last minute discovered votes.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 05, 2020 11:18 AM (9Om/r)
428
He's the one who's married to one of the fatass Kardashians, right?
Yeah... apparently this is where we're headed.
We all knew it, we just didn't want to admit it.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 10:58 AM (hku12)
I want you to think about this: Kamela Harris is supposed to bring life to the Biden campaign. (much as Sara Palin was for McCaine)
They ramp it up, bring her out, pop the photoflashes . . . .
And Kanye walks up, Bogarts the microphone, and says, "Ima gonna let you speak in a minute . . . "
Yeah... apparently this is where we're headed.
We all knew it, we just didn't want to admit it.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 10:58 AM (hku12)
I want you to think about this: Kamela Harris is supposed to bring life to the Biden campaign. (much as Sara Palin was for McCaine)
They ramp it up, bring her out, pop the photoflashes . . . .
And Kanye walks up, Bogarts the microphone, and says, "Ima gonna let you speak in a minute . . . "
Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2020 11:18 AM (WyVLE)
429
So what's the theory here? Kanye pulls Dem votes from Biden?
No way this could backfire.
Fuck. More theater. I'm sick of it.
No way this could backfire.
Fuck. More theater. I'm sick of it.
Posted by: creeper at July 05, 2020 11:18 AM (XxJt1)
430
Door Dash, Uber Eats and other such jobs would be a pretty good cover for casing neighborhoods.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 05, 2020 11:18 AM (vtNpt)
431
But if you mean things like Twitter and Assbook, well, I don't use them already. Never have. Don't see the point.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 11:15 AM (LMs+g)
They say Farcebook runs ads, but I gotta admit I can't see how the fork Twatter makes money.
I think it has more to do with stealing souls, and the demons who run the world must pay them quite nicely for it.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 11:15 AM (LMs+g)
They say Farcebook runs ads, but I gotta admit I can't see how the fork Twatter makes money.
I think it has more to do with stealing souls, and the demons who run the world must pay them quite nicely for it.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:18 AM (hku12)
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:19 AM (AwPyG)
433
There's good chance they did. However, there is many a tale around here of parents doing everything they can to raise their kids right and then they turn into SJW monsters, so who know.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 05, 2020 11:17 AM (vtNpt)
The company they keep. That's why older kids need lots of supervision. High schoolers want to fit in even in a group that is unwholesome.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 05, 2020 11:17 AM (vtNpt)
The company they keep. That's why older kids need lots of supervision. High schoolers want to fit in even in a group that is unwholesome.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:19 AM (ONvIw)
434
https://twitter.com/BasedPoland/
status/1279554414479581185
Hundreds of armed Cultural Marxist "Black Panthers"/BLM in Georgia calling on right-wing militias to stop hiding on 4th of July and come out to meet them
status/1279554414479581185
Hundreds of armed Cultural Marxist "Black Panthers"/BLM in Georgia calling on right-wing militias to stop hiding on 4th of July and come out to meet them
Posted by: always ahead of the curve at July 05, 2020 11:19 AM (bYkx0)
435
I'm sure they had a lot to do with that monster being what he is.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 10:41 AM (ONvIw)
There's good chance they did. However, there is many a tale around here of parents doing everything they can to raise their kids right and then they turn into SJW monsters, so who know.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo
When he was a kid, d'ya think his parents went to his games in blackface ?
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 10:41 AM (ONvIw)
There's good chance they did. However, there is many a tale around here of parents doing everything they can to raise their kids right and then they turn into SJW monsters, so who know.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo
When he was a kid, d'ya think his parents went to his games in blackface ?
Posted by: JT at July 05, 2020 11:19 AM (arJlL)
436
Good place to stash all those last minute discovered votes.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 05, 2020 11:18 AM (9Om/r)
Got a trunk as big as a Buick's?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 05, 2020 11:18 AM (9Om/r)
Got a trunk as big as a Buick's?
Posted by: BignJames at July 05, 2020 11:19 AM (X/Pw5)
437
The dark side of being ship-addicted is that so many of the books are really big. Hard to box, and I have piles of them. Jane's, Conway's, Friedman and Raven & Roberts*, lots of others. Outsized. Makes my aged back and arms hurt.
*One of the authors' name is John Roberts. But not his fault. His stuff is good. Not like our JR.
*One of the authors' name is John Roberts. But not his fault. His stuff is good. Not like our JR.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 11:19 AM (LMs+g)
438
There's good chance they did. However, there is
many a tale around here of parents doing everything they can to raise
their kids right and then they turn into SJW monsters, so who know.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 05, 2020 11:17 AM (vtNpt)
A parent once said to me that you get your kids for part of the day, but their friends and teachers get them longer.
many a tale around here of parents doing everything they can to raise
their kids right and then they turn into SJW monsters, so who know.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 05, 2020 11:17 AM (vtNpt)
A parent once said to me that you get your kids for part of the day, but their friends and teachers get them longer.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 05, 2020 11:20 AM (9Om/r)
439
An invitation to my Moron friends, especially ones who despair over whether there are still churches who follow Christ:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nzswji0a1Jk
The service is already in progress. This is a small town church with a bold pastor.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nzswji0a1Jk
The service is already in progress. This is a small town church with a bold pastor.
Posted by: Emmie at July 05, 2020 11:20 AM (clsJu)
440
But if the situation was reversed, more riots, more destruction, more "justified" violence in general. We can't make the blacks angry?
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:16 AM (ONvIw)
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No, we're generally able to understand that one act by one person doesn't mean sh*t as it relates to the rest of a group of people. We just look at those situations and say "dumbasses" without making a judgement against what tens of millions of other people in the group would be prone to do in that same scenario.
You know. Racism.
But if the situation was reversed, more riots, more destruction, more "justified" violence in general. We can't make the blacks angry?
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:16 AM (ONvIw)
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No, we're generally able to understand that one act by one person doesn't mean sh*t as it relates to the rest of a group of people. We just look at those situations and say "dumbasses" without making a judgement against what tens of millions of other people in the group would be prone to do in that same scenario.
You know. Racism.
Posted by: Charles Darwin Doing the Humpty Dance on the Interstate at July 05, 2020 11:20 AM (w1ZmK)
441
>>> 415 Kanye's been pretty pro-trump. The reason? They both have dragon blood. So, yeah. Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:13 AM
Hey, so we've just rolled on past tiger's blood to a mythical-freaken-animal now? Anyway, where do I score some?
Hey, so we've just rolled on past tiger's blood to a mythical-freaken-animal now? Anyway, where do I score some?
Posted by: Charlie S. at July 05, 2020 11:20 AM (l6b3d)
442
When he was a kid, d'ya think his parents went to his games in blackface ?
Posted by: JT at July 05, 2020 11:19 AM (arJlL)
They might have chalked up every negative experience to "not your fault" or "racism".
Posted by: JT at July 05, 2020 11:19 AM (arJlL)
They might have chalked up every negative experience to "not your fault" or "racism".
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:20 AM (ONvIw)
Posted by: banana Dream at July 05, 2020 11:20 AM (l6b3d)
444
Door Dash Pimpin' and Dealin' - You know it would work. Would be a Fortune 500 level concern in about 3 years.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:11 AM
Sounds like a late night HBO hidden camera "documentary" series. It would need a narrator with a smooth low voice.
Posted by: banana Deam at July 05, 2020 11:15 AM (l6b3d)
They always get Liev Schreiber for those things.
He so smooth.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:11 AM
Sounds like a late night HBO hidden camera "documentary" series. It would need a narrator with a smooth low voice.
Posted by: banana Deam at July 05, 2020 11:15 AM (l6b3d)
They always get Liev Schreiber for those things.
He so smooth.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:21 AM (hku12)
445
The idea of Kanye as President is scary. He is very smart, but utterly deranged. I mean bugfuck nuts.
The idea of a Kanye Presidency bothers me much less than the idea of ANY member of our political class occupying the office.
A fucking lunatic is totally preferable to those monsters.
The idea of a Kanye Presidency bothers me much less than the idea of ANY member of our political class occupying the office.
A fucking lunatic is totally preferable to those monsters.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 05, 2020 11:21 AM (PBmdd)
446
So why do carriage returns not work on Firefox here?
Posted by: banana Dream at July 05, 2020 11:21 AM (l6b3d)
447
Hey, so we've just rolled on past tiger's blood to a mythical-freaken-animal now? Anyway, where do I score some?
Posted by: Charlie S. at July 05, 2020 11:20 AM (l6b3d)
I'm so fucking sick of dragons
Posted by: Charlie S. at July 05, 2020 11:20 AM (l6b3d)
I'm so fucking sick of dragons
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:21 AM (ONvIw)
448
I'm outside watching my dog devour a Kangaroo tail bone. Then I will use my new vacuum to clean up her shed and watch church online.
I really don't like online services but I commute to church and I've been doing a lot of driving lately so I will stay home this morning.
I really don't like online services but I commute to church and I've been doing a lot of driving lately so I will stay home this morning.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 05, 2020 11:21 AM (lgiXo)
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at July 05, 2020 11:21 AM (JJrfj)
450
415 Kanye's been pretty pro-trump. The reason? They both have dragon blood. So, yeah. Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:13 AM
Hey, so we've just rolled on past tiger's blood to a mythical-freaken-animal now? Anyway, where do I score some?
Posted by: Charlie S.
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DoorDash maybe...
Hey, so we've just rolled on past tiger's blood to a mythical-freaken-animal now? Anyway, where do I score some?
Posted by: Charlie S.
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DoorDash maybe...
Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at July 05, 2020 11:22 AM (UUBmN)
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:22 AM (AwPyG)
452
Are people taking the Kanye things seriously? Then again it is 2020. So fuck it why not?
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at July 05, 2020 11:23 AM (JJrfj)
453
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 10:58 AM (hku12)
I want you to think about this: Kamela Harris is supposed to bring life to the Biden campaign. (much as Sara Palin was for McCaine)
They ramp it up, bring her out, pop the photoflashes . . . .
And Kanye walks up, Bogarts the microphone, and says, "Ima gonna let you speak in a minute . . . "
Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2020 11:18 AM (WyVLE)
And then he pulls out a Willie Brown sex tape.
I want you to think about this: Kamela Harris is supposed to bring life to the Biden campaign. (much as Sara Palin was for McCaine)
They ramp it up, bring her out, pop the photoflashes . . . .
And Kanye walks up, Bogarts the microphone, and says, "Ima gonna let you speak in a minute . . . "
Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2020 11:18 AM (WyVLE)
And then he pulls out a Willie Brown sex tape.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:23 AM (hku12)
454
445 The idea of Kanye as President is scary. He is very smart, but utterly deranged. I mean bugfuck nuts.
The idea of a Kanye Presidency bothers me much less than the idea of ANY member of our political class occupying the office.
A fucking lunatic is totally preferable to those monsters.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 05, 2020 11:21 AM (PBmdd)
Why do you say that? Honest question, I don't know a lot about him.
The idea of a Kanye Presidency bothers me much less than the idea of ANY member of our political class occupying the office.
A fucking lunatic is totally preferable to those monsters.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 05, 2020 11:21 AM (PBmdd)
Why do you say that? Honest question, I don't know a lot about him.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 05, 2020 11:23 AM (lgiXo)
455
Is any novelist good enough and creative enough to write a series without a template to follow?
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at July 05, 2020 11:06 AM (lgiXo)
I think I would flip that around.
Series writers generally aren't good enough and creative enough to write without the same old template.
That's why they're series writers.
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at July 05, 2020 11:06 AM (lgiXo)
I think I would flip that around.
Series writers generally aren't good enough and creative enough to write without the same old template.
That's why they're series writers.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 05, 2020 11:24 AM (dWwl8)
456
Kangaroo tail bone
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker
For real? You buy Kangaroo tail bone somewhere?Or this is one of your tests?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker
For real? You buy Kangaroo tail bone somewhere?Or this is one of your tests?
Posted by: MikeM at July 05, 2020 11:24 AM (jVBo5)
457
No, we're generally able to understand that one act by one person doesn't mean sh*t as it relates to the rest of a group of people. We just look at those situations and say "dumbasses" without making a judgement against what tens of millions of other people in the group would be prone to do in that same scenario.
You know. Racism.
Posted by: Charles Darwin Doing the Humpty Dance on the Interstate at July 05, 2020 11:20 AM (w1ZmK)
Disagree. A career criminal full of meth and fentanyl being beatified makes me doubt that people understand anything.
No, we're generally able to understand that one act by one person doesn't mean sh*t as it relates to the rest of a group of people. We just look at those situations and say "dumbasses" without making a judgement against what tens of millions of other people in the group would be prone to do in that same scenario.
You know. Racism.
Posted by: Charles Darwin Doing the Humpty Dance on the Interstate at July 05, 2020 11:20 AM (w1ZmK)
Disagree. A career criminal full of meth and fentanyl being beatified makes me doubt that people understand anything.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:24 AM (ONvIw)
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They might have chalked up every negative experience to "not your fault" or "racism".
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:20 AM (ONvIw)
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The homeowner who was making sure the other homeowner didn't need a permit for their deck and the offended black homeowner building the deck honestly by-golly viewing the situation as one where they were standing up against racism.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:20 AM (ONvIw)
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The homeowner who was making sure the other homeowner didn't need a permit for their deck and the offended black homeowner building the deck honestly by-golly viewing the situation as one where they were standing up against racism.
Posted by: Charles Darwin Doing the Humpty Dance on the Interstate at July 05, 2020 11:24 AM (w1ZmK)
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425 I'm extremely skeptical of any large-scale theories of history. Comparing America to Athens, or Rome, or the British Empire, is silly. For one thing, our "empire," such as it is, is a net expense for us, not a source of profit. Losing our "empire" around the world wouldn't make America poorer or weaker.
No, sometimes one can see things in history which look like other things, but only with the benefit of hindsight. Predicting the future is a mug's game.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 11:17 AM (fh5LM)
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Once again, I will recommend C S Lewis. That is the conclusion of the introduction to his 16th C OHEL volume, "The New Learning and the New Ignorance."
It is the one thing I most often recommend. Turns the usual pattern we were all taught on its head.
Also, along that line, I did dig out Richard Hooker's Laws of the Ecclesiastical Polity. The greatest Prot theologian, for my money (and Lewis's favorite, clearly.) He was a big reason I didn't go Poping until the 21st C. Not exactly light reading, of course. But the most Thomistic of Protestants.
No, sometimes one can see things in history which look like other things, but only with the benefit of hindsight. Predicting the future is a mug's game.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 05, 2020 11:17 AM (fh5LM)
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Once again, I will recommend C S Lewis. That is the conclusion of the introduction to his 16th C OHEL volume, "The New Learning and the New Ignorance."
It is the one thing I most often recommend. Turns the usual pattern we were all taught on its head.
Also, along that line, I did dig out Richard Hooker's Laws of the Ecclesiastical Polity. The greatest Prot theologian, for my money (and Lewis's favorite, clearly.) He was a big reason I didn't go Poping until the 21st C. Not exactly light reading, of course. But the most Thomistic of Protestants.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 11:25 AM (LMs+g)
460
I'm well into "Sea Leopard" and enjoying it mightily.
The story thus far (minor spoilers):
The British submarine Proteus, carrying the Leopard stealth device, is in a Soviet trap in a Norwegian fjord in the Barents Sea. Her propellers befouled by a Soviet cable torpedo, she's forced to settle on a ledge. The Ministry of Defense knows of Proteus' plight, but what can it do? Also, Leopard is malfunctioning.
A Soviet dive team is sent in to capture Proteus and Leopard, but it's no cakewalk -- half of the divers have been lost because of the horrendous weather.
Meanwhile, an SIS agent in England and his Soviet counterparts are tracking the daughter of the man who invented Leopard, who is also missing.
The suspense is so thick that I needed a break. That is being supplied by John Byrne's notable run on Marvel's "Fantastic Four," which I'm starting from the beginning. It floors me to consider that these tales are 40 years old. If it weren't for the telephones, these stories would seem contemporary.
Oh, Marvel, you've run so far off the track!
The story thus far (minor spoilers):
The British submarine Proteus, carrying the Leopard stealth device, is in a Soviet trap in a Norwegian fjord in the Barents Sea. Her propellers befouled by a Soviet cable torpedo, she's forced to settle on a ledge. The Ministry of Defense knows of Proteus' plight, but what can it do? Also, Leopard is malfunctioning.
A Soviet dive team is sent in to capture Proteus and Leopard, but it's no cakewalk -- half of the divers have been lost because of the horrendous weather.
Meanwhile, an SIS agent in England and his Soviet counterparts are tracking the daughter of the man who invented Leopard, who is also missing.
The suspense is so thick that I needed a break. That is being supplied by John Byrne's notable run on Marvel's "Fantastic Four," which I'm starting from the beginning. It floors me to consider that these tales are 40 years old. If it weren't for the telephones, these stories would seem contemporary.
Oh, Marvel, you've run so far off the track!
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 05, 2020 11:25 AM (u/nim)
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>>>The idea of a Kanye Presidency bothers me much less than the idea of ANY member of our political class occupying the office. A fucking lunatic is totally preferable to those monsters.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 05, 2020 11:21 AM
Mainly he's pretty weak against social pressure. He's wealthy and used to being praised his whole life. He folded before after a little bit of pressure from the left. I don't think there are any modern American politicians that could of taken what Trump took. Kanye? no.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 05, 2020 11:21 AM
Mainly he's pretty weak against social pressure. He's wealthy and used to being praised his whole life. He folded before after a little bit of pressure from the left. I don't think there are any modern American politicians that could of taken what Trump took. Kanye? no.
Posted by: banana Dream at July 05, 2020 11:25 AM (l6b3d)
462
Hey, so we've just rolled on past tiger's blood to a mythical-freaken-animal now? Anyway, where do I score some?
Posted by: Charlie S.
Ask Elric, he's got a recipe and probably get you a connection
Posted by: Charlie S.
Ask Elric, he's got a recipe and probably get you a connection
Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2020 11:25 AM (WyVLE)
463
The M'abating crowd showed no signs of riotous behaviour,they were from Portland.?
Is that the red race track for next weeks Austrian G.P?
is it now a weekly event..book him Ossifer 160KPH OVER!!!
If the drivers and commentators play with their masks any more on today's race they run the risk of going blind.
The M'abating crowd showed no signs of riotous behaviour,they were from Portland.?
Is that the red race track for next weeks Austrian G.P?
is it now a weekly event..book him Ossifer 160KPH OVER!!!
If the drivers and commentators play with their masks any more on today's race they run the risk of going blind.
Posted by: saf at July 05, 2020 11:25 AM (5IHGB)
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Disagree. A career criminal full of meth and fentanyl being beatified makes me doubt that people understand anything.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:24 AM (ONvIw)
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That's something else, unfortunately. The 50%+ functional illiteracy rate of high school graduates certainly helps it, too.
Disagree. A career criminal full of meth and fentanyl being beatified makes me doubt that people understand anything.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:24 AM (ONvIw)
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That's something else, unfortunately. The 50%+ functional illiteracy rate of high school graduates certainly helps it, too.
Posted by: Charles Darwin Doing the Humpty Dance on the Interstate at July 05, 2020 11:26 AM (w1ZmK)
465
Yeah Id love for America to lose its so called empire. Save trillions a year in being the world police department. Defund THAT police, please!
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at July 05, 2020 11:26 AM (JJrfj)
466
I looked. Big fat moon out there, no eclipse.
It was a 'penumbral' eclipse, so it would just been a little darker. You would have seen it in the hours around midnight, EST.
It was a 'penumbral' eclipse, so it would just been a little darker. You would have seen it in the hours around midnight, EST.
Posted by: t-bird at July 05, 2020 11:26 AM (OFJlJ)
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Hey, so we've just rolled on past tiger's blood to a mythical-freaken-animal now? Anyway, where do I score some?
Posted by: Charlie S. at July 05, 2020 11:20 AM (l6b3d)
I'm so fucking sick of dragons
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:21 AM (ONvIw)
True F'n story: One of the reasons lions numbers are getting critically low is because they are damn well out of tigers for their blood.
So... they turn to lions. Sell it to "Asians." Lots of third world shithole African countries have signed on to allow for the bone trade to go on, unabated.
Conservationists are livid about it. Say they can't understand why their governments would allow this.
Why?
I'll tell you why. Because China is asshoe.
Ruining damn near everything good and decent on this godforsaken planet.
Posted by: Charlie S. at July 05, 2020 11:20 AM (l6b3d)
I'm so fucking sick of dragons
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:21 AM (ONvIw)
True F'n story: One of the reasons lions numbers are getting critically low is because they are damn well out of tigers for their blood.
So... they turn to lions. Sell it to "Asians." Lots of third world shithole African countries have signed on to allow for the bone trade to go on, unabated.
Conservationists are livid about it. Say they can't understand why their governments would allow this.
Why?
I'll tell you why. Because China is asshoe.
Ruining damn near everything good and decent on this godforsaken planet.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:27 AM (hku12)
Posted by: saf at July 05, 2020 11:27 AM (5IHGB)
469
Another reading plan, for after we move: I intend to go through the entire Orlando series, first Boiardo, then Ariosto. I've read only part of the latter, so far. But I'm going to check for the best translations.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 11:28 AM (LMs+g)
470
Since this is the Book Thread:
I still get chills walking into Bates Hall at the Boston Public Library and the Rose Main Reading Room at the NYPL.
I can't imagine the monstrosities these "modernists" would slap up in their place. Clear glass cubes, probably.
I still get chills walking into Bates Hall at the Boston Public Library and the Rose Main Reading Room at the NYPL.
I can't imagine the monstrosities these "modernists" would slap up in their place. Clear glass cubes, probably.
Posted by: sharksauce at July 05, 2020 11:28 AM (DFZnL)
471
Why do you say that? Honest question, I don't know a lot about him.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 05, 2020 11:23 AM (lgiXo)
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Savvy businessman with an obvious streak of intellectual curiosity. Also, surprisingly, an apparently dedicated Christian. But a LONG history of erratic, emotional outbursts and outright breakdowns. He seems to have periods of highly productive lucidity, punctuated by episodes of barking madness.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 05, 2020 11:23 AM (lgiXo)
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Savvy businessman with an obvious streak of intellectual curiosity. Also, surprisingly, an apparently dedicated Christian. But a LONG history of erratic, emotional outbursts and outright breakdowns. He seems to have periods of highly productive lucidity, punctuated by episodes of barking madness.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 05, 2020 11:28 AM (PBmdd)
472
I looked. Big fat moon out there, no eclipse.
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It was a 'penumbral' eclipse, so it would just been a little darker. You would have seen it in the hours around midnight, EST.
Posted by: t-bird at July 05, 2020 11:26 AM (OFJlJ)
I was out there. It wasn't.
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It was a 'penumbral' eclipse, so it would just been a little darker. You would have seen it in the hours around midnight, EST.
Posted by: t-bird at July 05, 2020 11:26 AM (OFJlJ)
I was out there. It wasn't.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:28 AM (hku12)
473
430 Door Dash, Uber Eats and other such jobs would be a pretty good cover for casing neighborhoods.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 05, 2020 11:18 AM (vtNpt)
We've had a spate of car break-ins and thefts in our neighborhood in the past week. Yesterday morning, I was walking and a car followed me, for at least half a mile (including turning around, parking then driving to catch up to where I was). I took his license plate, etc, but still, it was unnerving, especially after the break ins. This neighborhood has had zero crime in the seven years we have lived here, so this is not a trend I want to see.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 05, 2020 11:18 AM (vtNpt)
We've had a spate of car break-ins and thefts in our neighborhood in the past week. Yesterday morning, I was walking and a car followed me, for at least half a mile (including turning around, parking then driving to catch up to where I was). I took his license plate, etc, but still, it was unnerving, especially after the break ins. This neighborhood has had zero crime in the seven years we have lived here, so this is not a trend I want to see.
Posted by: Moki at July 05, 2020 11:28 AM (/H+aK)
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@454
Kanye's a genius rap producer (see "gold digger") and he is HUGE in the black community.
I think he's one of those troubled creative geniuses (I think Greg Iles is one, too) His mother died when he was young. He's been in a psych hospital, and says it was there he decided to start a Christian church. Not-so-coinicentally, he did a Christian album and made a lot of money.
You can get a good sense of him if you search for his appearance with Joel Osteen. (They did a service together) He's a little scattered, but seems sincere.
He visited Trump tower in the early days, and that led to the "dragon blood" comment.
If he campaigned for Trump it would mean a lot of black votes.
Kanye's a genius rap producer (see "gold digger") and he is HUGE in the black community.
I think he's one of those troubled creative geniuses (I think Greg Iles is one, too) His mother died when he was young. He's been in a psych hospital, and says it was there he decided to start a Christian church. Not-so-coinicentally, he did a Christian album and made a lot of money.
You can get a good sense of him if you search for his appearance with Joel Osteen. (They did a service together) He's a little scattered, but seems sincere.
He visited Trump tower in the early days, and that led to the "dragon blood" comment.
If he campaigned for Trump it would mean a lot of black votes.
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:29 AM (AwPyG)
475
There is no reason to assume that the neighbor asking about a permit was racist. Maybe she just wanted to save them some cash down the road when the municipality made them dismantle an uninspected deck due to faulty supports.
My neighbors had to pay huge fines and rip down the sheet rock when they finished the basement without permit or inspections.
My neighbors had to pay huge fines and rip down the sheet rock when they finished the basement without permit or inspections.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:29 AM (ONvIw)
476
Other thanGold Digger I have no idea what Kanye has done. Im not really into rap. But I also could name you 10 songs by JayZ or Snoop. Guys like that transcend rap fans. Kanye in the other hand.....is he just famous for being famous?
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at July 05, 2020 11:29 AM (JJrfj)
477
There's good chance they did. However, there is many a tale around here of parents doing everything they can to raise their kids right and then they turn into SJW monsters, so who know.
Posted by: Insomniac
There's good chance they did. However, there is many a tale around here of parents doing everything they can to raise their kids right and then they turn into SJW monsters, so who know.
Posted by: Insomniac
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2020 11:30 AM (WZ5i4)
478
460
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 05, 2020 11:25 AM (u/nim)
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My first reaction is that I like the use of Proteus as the name of a RN sub. That is absolutely plausible, as it's a name they have used.
One of my nerdy traits is that it bugs me when authors make up implausible names for ships. "No, that wouldn't be a heavy cruiser." That sort of thing.
Here's one: what is the ONLY US Battleship NOT named for a state? I mean a ship actually classed as a battleship, not something some dumb report describes as one.
Anyone?
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 05, 2020 11:25 AM (u/nim)
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My first reaction is that I like the use of Proteus as the name of a RN sub. That is absolutely plausible, as it's a name they have used.
One of my nerdy traits is that it bugs me when authors make up implausible names for ships. "No, that wouldn't be a heavy cruiser." That sort of thing.
Here's one: what is the ONLY US Battleship NOT named for a state? I mean a ship actually classed as a battleship, not something some dumb report describes as one.
Anyone?
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 11:31 AM (LMs+g)
479
>>> I'm so fucking sick of dragons
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:21 AM
I have an 8 yo girl. It's all mermaids, ponies, and unicorns. There are also mermaid ponies, as you would expect. Llamas started inching up a few years ago in competition with ponies but were soundly defeated everywhere outside of Peru.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:21 AM
I have an 8 yo girl. It's all mermaids, ponies, and unicorns. There are also mermaid ponies, as you would expect. Llamas started inching up a few years ago in competition with ponies but were soundly defeated everywhere outside of Peru.
Posted by: banana Dream at July 05, 2020 11:32 AM (l6b3d)
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@470
I agree, I like my libraries to feel "hushed". There's nothing like massive ceilings and the weight of history to bring about that feeling
I agree, I like my libraries to feel "hushed". There's nothing like massive ceilings and the weight of history to bring about that feeling
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:33 AM (AwPyG)
481
I have an 8 yo girl. It's all mermaids, ponies, and unicorns. There are also mermaid ponies, as you would expect. Llamas started inching up a few years ago in competition with ponies but were soundly defeated everywhere outside of Peru.
Posted by: banana Dream at July 05, 2020 11:32 AM (l6b3d)
It's fine for kids. Mermaid ponies, dogs who talk and drive rescue vehicles. It's only when you can't put it away that it sometimes turns sinister.
Posted by: banana Dream at July 05, 2020 11:32 AM (l6b3d)
It's fine for kids. Mermaid ponies, dogs who talk and drive rescue vehicles. It's only when you can't put it away that it sometimes turns sinister.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:33 AM (ONvIw)
482
There's good chance they did. However, there is many a tale around here of parents doing everything they can to raise their kids right and then they turn into SJW monsters, so who know.
Posted by: Insomniac
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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Ooops. What I wanted to add, is that I am personally aware of families who raised perfectly normal kids, but had one that was co-opted by the Left during college. When I say co-opted, I mean, became a looney SJW.
Their parents can barely tolerate their own child.
Posted by: Insomniac
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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Ooops. What I wanted to add, is that I am personally aware of families who raised perfectly normal kids, but had one that was co-opted by the Left during college. When I say co-opted, I mean, became a looney SJW.
Their parents can barely tolerate their own child.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2020 11:33 AM (bk3Sg)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 05, 2020 11:33 AM (Jx5Qs)
484
Kanye's big money comes from shoes. Hundreds of millions from shoes, IIRC. But the music, too. I think he's an actual billionaire at this point.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 05, 2020 11:33 AM (PBmdd)
485
455 Is any novelist good enough and creative enough to write a series without a template to follow?
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at July 05, 2020 11:06 AM (lgiXo)
I think I would flip that around.
Series writers generally aren't good enough and creative enough to write without the same old template.
That's why they're series writers.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 05, 2020 11:24 AM (dWwl
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If you adopt that view, that makes Wodehouse and most mystery writers "not good enough". Implausible.
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at July 05, 2020 11:06 AM (lgiXo)
I think I would flip that around.
Series writers generally aren't good enough and creative enough to write without the same old template.
That's why they're series writers.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 05, 2020 11:24 AM (dWwl
________
If you adopt that view, that makes Wodehouse and most mystery writers "not good enough". Implausible.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 11:34 AM (LMs+g)
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:34 AM (AwPyG)
487
Eeyore: Timothy Zahn says he got shit from Star Wars fans for referring to a particular class is starship as a "corvette". Smh
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 05, 2020 11:35 AM (rWZ8Y)
488
Their parents can barely tolerate their own child.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2020 11:33 AM (bk3Sg)
I hope the kid grows out of it.
We must do a better job preparing kids to face the SJW threat before they meet it as teens and college students.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2020 11:33 AM (bk3Sg)
I hope the kid grows out of it.
We must do a better job preparing kids to face the SJW threat before they meet it as teens and college students.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:35 AM (ONvIw)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2020 11:36 AM (bk3Sg)
490
Class OF starship, you stupid auto correct. Anyway, apparently these guys were familiar only with the car.
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 05, 2020 11:36 AM (rWZ8Y)
491
Interestingly enough, Kanye is also an artist, and some of his earlier work was shown on the Antiques Roadshow, once.
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:36 AM (AwPyG)
492
It's funny because the chief issued a statement afterwards and said "gathering in the street is illegal and will no longer be tolerated"
After tolerating it for 19 days.
This death is on them and the rioters.
Posted by: Charles Darwin Doing the Humpty Dance on the Interstate at July 05, 2020 10:59 AM (w1ZmK)
I saw a video of the SPD chief taking questions during the early days of CHAZ. I got the impression that she was frustrated because of the lawlessness she couldn't do anything about and hinted that orders to let it go on came from above.
After tolerating it for 19 days.
This death is on them and the rioters.
Posted by: Charles Darwin Doing the Humpty Dance on the Interstate at July 05, 2020 10:59 AM (w1ZmK)
I saw a video of the SPD chief taking questions during the early days of CHAZ. I got the impression that she was frustrated because of the lawlessness she couldn't do anything about and hinted that orders to let it go on came from above.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at July 05, 2020 11:37 AM (LkGkk)
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Interestingly enough, Kanye is also an artist, and some of his earlier work was shown on the Antiques Roadshow, once.
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:36 AM (AwPyG)
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He didn't do collectors plates, did he?
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:36 AM (AwPyG)
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He didn't do collectors plates, did he?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 11:37 AM (wPVhA)
494
Kanye's big money comes from shoes. Hundreds of millions from shoes, IIRC. But the music, too. I think he's an actual billionaire at this point.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 05, 2020 11:33 AM (PBmdd)
The bazillionaire Olson twins showed the way. Yes, put out silly pop media garbage every now and then, but get into the "fashion" and merchandising wing of things, and the cash flow never stops.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 05, 2020 11:33 AM (PBmdd)
The bazillionaire Olson twins showed the way. Yes, put out silly pop media garbage every now and then, but get into the "fashion" and merchandising wing of things, and the cash flow never stops.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:37 AM (hku12)
495
I'm back
wareclub selling st louis style ribs $5 off!
too bad it's limit one 2-pack
so...
wait, I thought Vikings had excellent hygeine?
have I been lied to again?
wareclub selling st louis style ribs $5 off!
too bad it's limit one 2-pack
so...
wait, I thought Vikings had excellent hygeine?
have I been lied to again?
Posted by: vmom 2020 waving Stars & Stripes at July 05, 2020 11:37 AM (OCRKH)
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I find it extremely pesky that the Book Thread happens just about when Mrs Eez & I get busy on the day's events, so that I often miss it entirely.
More of an etymology thing, really, with oblique reference to the Ongoing Unpleasantness:
while in the hospital last month the nondenominational chaplain stopped by my room; she gave me a little paperback NIV New Testament which I have been reading with mild interest for how the text might differ from the KJV I am used to ... but that's not really the point.
In the header notes to Revelation, it mentions that the word Apocalypse means "unveiling".
Interesting, in the context of the Great Unmasking, or Unveiling, that is going on, and how apocalyptic (as a metaphor, or ?) the times seem lately.
Something to noodle on, just like I'm doing.
More of an etymology thing, really, with oblique reference to the Ongoing Unpleasantness:
while in the hospital last month the nondenominational chaplain stopped by my room; she gave me a little paperback NIV New Testament which I have been reading with mild interest for how the text might differ from the KJV I am used to ... but that's not really the point.
In the header notes to Revelation, it mentions that the word Apocalypse means "unveiling".
Interesting, in the context of the Great Unmasking, or Unveiling, that is going on, and how apocalyptic (as a metaphor, or ?) the times seem lately.
Something to noodle on, just like I'm doing.
Posted by: the_sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at July 05, 2020 11:38 AM (0IMgo)
497
@485
I think you may have a point, but the fact that they hit upon a good template in the first place is why they've survived long enough to have a series in the first place, right?
I think you may have a point, but the fact that they hit upon a good template in the first place is why they've survived long enough to have a series in the first place, right?
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:38 AM (AwPyG)
498
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:36 AM (AwPyG)
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He didn't do collectors plates, did he?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 11:37 AM (wPVhA)
Figurines, with these big cute eyes. So adorable.
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He didn't do collectors plates, did he?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 11:37 AM (wPVhA)
Figurines, with these big cute eyes. So adorable.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:38 AM (hku12)
499
The death was caused by that other see you next Tuesday, mayor Jenny.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 05, 2020 11:38 AM (y7DUB)
500
The bazillionaire Olson twins showed the way. Yes, put out silly pop media garbage every now and then, but get into the "fashion" and merchandising wing of things, and the cash flow never stops.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:37 AM (hku12)
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It worked for George Lucas. But then, along came Disney to screw up the perfect plan.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:37 AM (hku12)
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It worked for George Lucas. But then, along came Disney to screw up the perfect plan.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 11:39 AM (wPVhA)
Posted by: Javems at July 05, 2020 11:40 AM (ofIwF)
502
I'm back
wareclub selling st louis style ribs $5 off!
too bad it's limit one 2-pack
so...
wait, I thought Vikings had excellent hygeine?
have I been lied to again?
Posted by: vmom 2020 waving Stars & Stripes at July 05, 2020 11:37 AM (OCRKH)
When I moved out west here, I saw "St. Louis style ribs" being sold. I was surprised, so...
Yeah, I know St. Louis style ribs. St. Louis style ribs are a friend of mine. These, sir, are no St. Louis style ribs.
wareclub selling st louis style ribs $5 off!
too bad it's limit one 2-pack
so...
wait, I thought Vikings had excellent hygeine?
have I been lied to again?
Posted by: vmom 2020 waving Stars & Stripes at July 05, 2020 11:37 AM (OCRKH)
When I moved out west here, I saw "St. Louis style ribs" being sold. I was surprised, so...
Yeah, I know St. Louis style ribs. St. Louis style ribs are a friend of mine. These, sir, are no St. Louis style ribs.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:40 AM (hku12)
503
499 The death was caused by that other see you next Tuesday, mayor Jenny.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 05, 2020 11:38 AM (y7DUB)
She was a factor, but people are responsible for their own choices even if those choices hurt them.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 05, 2020 11:38 AM (y7DUB)
She was a factor, but people are responsible for their own choices even if those choices hurt them.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:40 AM (ONvIw)
504
@496
Oh, there are a LOT of people on twitter who sincerely believe we are watching Revelation unfold. Especially now that the corporate left is trying to restrict people from buying and selling unless they tow the line.
It does give you pause.
Oh, there are a LOT of people on twitter who sincerely believe we are watching Revelation unfold. Especially now that the corporate left is trying to restrict people from buying and selling unless they tow the line.
It does give you pause.
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:40 AM (AwPyG)
505
The kids I saw leading the anti war protests in college were all trust find babies who would go back to some cushy job and sweet life after college. I worked in the dish room ( proudly called a dish room a animal) and weekends sometimes at a lumber yard. Summers too of course. Do kids today work in school? Maybe too much time on their hands to read Marx?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 05, 2020 11:40 AM (Jx5Qs)
506
Putting in a recommendation for Mike Shackle's We Are The Dead.
Saw Glen Cook liked it and immediately read.
Excellent dark sci-fi.
Saw Glen Cook liked it and immediately read.
Excellent dark sci-fi.
Posted by: Thesokorus at July 05, 2020 11:41 AM (YQKmh)
507
Those who drink a fifth on the fourth may not be able to go fourth on the fifth.
Now the tell me.
Now the tell me.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 05, 2020 11:41 AM (axyOa)
508
Yeah Id love for America to lose its so called empire. Save trillions a year in being the world police department. Defund THAT police, please!
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at July 05, 2020 11:26 AM (JJrfj)
Concur.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at July 05, 2020 11:26 AM (JJrfj)
Concur.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 05, 2020 11:41 AM (Z+IKu)
509
The bazillionaire Olson twins showed the way. Yes, put out silly pop media garbage every now and then, but get into the "fashion" and merchandising wing of things, and the cash flow never stops.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:37 AM (hku12)
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It worked for George Lucas. But then, along came Disney to screw up the perfect plan.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 11:39 AM (wPVhA)
It was a perfect plan. For Lucas.
He got a big fat 10 figure check. Dinsey got the albatross.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:37 AM (hku12)
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It worked for George Lucas. But then, along came Disney to screw up the perfect plan.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 11:39 AM (wPVhA)
It was a perfect plan. For Lucas.
He got a big fat 10 figure check. Dinsey got the albatross.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:41 AM (hku12)
510
The bazillionaire Olson twins showed the way. Yes, put out silly pop media garbage every now and then, but get into the "fashion" and merchandising wing of things, and the cash flow never stops.
And explained well before that by Mel Brooks with the "Merchandising" speech in Spaceballs.
And explained well before that by Mel Brooks with the "Merchandising" speech in Spaceballs.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 05, 2020 11:41 AM (6XLoz)
511
>>> If you adopt that view, that makes Wodehouse and most mystery writers "not good enough". Implausible.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 11:34 AM
If I remember correctly, Wodehouse had a very comprehensive system, like a mental story production mechanism that helped him generate his work. I'm a big fan so I can attest to its success. I would like to see a detailed description of how it worked. But there's probably not a lot of information out there as I could see why he would want to keep it under wraps.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 11:34 AM
If I remember correctly, Wodehouse had a very comprehensive system, like a mental story production mechanism that helped him generate his work. I'm a big fan so I can attest to its success. I would like to see a detailed description of how it worked. But there's probably not a lot of information out there as I could see why he would want to keep it under wraps.
Posted by: banana Dream at July 05, 2020 11:42 AM (l6b3d)
512
Just saw a French protester on OAN who said "we want direct democracy, not elections". I am not making this up.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 05, 2020 11:42 AM (6XLoz)
513
@493
Hah! He's a marketing genius, so maybe.
His artwork is not bad, actually--but kind of scattered in style, like he is.
Hah! He's a marketing genius, so maybe.
His artwork is not bad, actually--but kind of scattered in style, like he is.
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:42 AM (AwPyG)
514
Fireworks and/or small arms fire have commenced.
Posted by: klaftern at July 05, 2020 11:43 AM (RuIsu)
515
512 Just saw a French protester on OAN who said "we want direct democracy, not elections". I am not making this up.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 05, 2020 11:42 AM (6XLoz)
So by 'direct democracy' they mean the guillotine right?
Posted by: Ian S. at July 05, 2020 11:42 AM (6XLoz)
So by 'direct democracy' they mean the guillotine right?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 05, 2020 11:44 AM (Jx5Qs)
516
Fwiw I am back to 2016 lvls of confidence in Trump victory.
It is going to be even better.
People are furious at the press and the DEM politicians.
Trump will drag the GOPe into dual majorities DESPITE their attempts to sabotage him.
And they will try and pull another mid-term stab in the back.
But it won't matter.
The Lone Warrior is too POWERFUL.
It is going to be even better.
People are furious at the press and the DEM politicians.
Trump will drag the GOPe into dual majorities DESPITE their attempts to sabotage him.
And they will try and pull another mid-term stab in the back.
But it won't matter.
The Lone Warrior is too POWERFUL.
Posted by: Thesokorus at July 05, 2020 11:44 AM (YQKmh)
517
Here is the Jag driver and those he hit. Scroll down.
https://tinyurl.com/y8myqs56
Posted by: Javems at July 05, 2020 11:40 AM (ofIwF)
He looks like a playa, getting his drink on and all dat fat booty.
I want to buy him a beer.
https://tinyurl.com/y8myqs56
Posted by: Javems at July 05, 2020 11:40 AM (ofIwF)
He looks like a playa, getting his drink on and all dat fat booty.
I want to buy him a beer.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 05, 2020 11:44 AM (Z+IKu)
518
I was out there. It wasn't.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Emanations? Were there emanations?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2020 11:36 AM (bk3Sg)
No. No emanations. Penumbra, yes, but no emanations.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Emanations? Were there emanations?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2020 11:36 AM (bk3Sg)
No. No emanations. Penumbra, yes, but no emanations.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:44 AM (hku12)
519
487 Eeyore: Timothy Zahn says he got shit from Star Wars fans for referring to a particular class is starship as a "corvette". Smh
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 05, 2020 11:35 AM (rWZ8Y)
_______
Niagara Falls trigger moment:
In the 19th C, there were 3 classes of cruiser, frigates, corvettes, and sloops, in descending order. By the 20th C, only sloops remained in service, and just a few of those, on colonial stations.
When WWI started, the RN decided they needed a new type of minesweeper, and since the design was about the same size as existing old sloops (about 1000 tons), they put them in that category. (A side note is that they needed lots of names. One of the officers was into gardening, and had a seed catalogue on his desk. Thus arose the first "Flower" class).
Anyway, after the war they did inherit the policing role of their predecessors, along with ASW. When WWII was looming, the RN needed a smaller type, and called them "corvettes", reversing the size relations, but reviving the Flower names. Later still, they needed a bigger type, and thus came up with "Frigates". (Differed from Sloops in that the latter were built to warship standard, the former to merchant.)
Postwar, all became "frigates". Except the USN, where we revived the term for super-destroyers. We stuck to that usage until the 70s, when we went along with the ROTW, and adopted "frigate" for single-purpose, defense-oriented ships, below destroyers.
Slowly I turned.....
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 05, 2020 11:35 AM (rWZ8Y)
_______
Niagara Falls trigger moment:
In the 19th C, there were 3 classes of cruiser, frigates, corvettes, and sloops, in descending order. By the 20th C, only sloops remained in service, and just a few of those, on colonial stations.
When WWI started, the RN decided they needed a new type of minesweeper, and since the design was about the same size as existing old sloops (about 1000 tons), they put them in that category. (A side note is that they needed lots of names. One of the officers was into gardening, and had a seed catalogue on his desk. Thus arose the first "Flower" class).
Anyway, after the war they did inherit the policing role of their predecessors, along with ASW. When WWII was looming, the RN needed a smaller type, and called them "corvettes", reversing the size relations, but reviving the Flower names. Later still, they needed a bigger type, and thus came up with "Frigates". (Differed from Sloops in that the latter were built to warship standard, the former to merchant.)
Postwar, all became "frigates". Except the USN, where we revived the term for super-destroyers. We stuck to that usage until the 70s, when we went along with the ROTW, and adopted "frigate" for single-purpose, defense-oriented ships, below destroyers.
Slowly I turned.....
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 11:45 AM (LMs+g)
520
When he was a kid, d'ya think his parents went to his games in blackface ?
Posted by: JT at July 05, 2020 11:19 AM (arJlL)
I can only hope so.
Posted by: JT at July 05, 2020 11:19 AM (arJlL)
I can only hope so.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 05, 2020 11:45 AM (vtNpt)
521
512 Just saw a French protester on OAN who said "we want direct democracy, not elections". I am not making this up.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 05, 2020 11:42 AM (6XLoz)
Mob rule and the reign of terror part II
Posted by: Ian S. at July 05, 2020 11:42 AM (6XLoz)
Mob rule and the reign of terror part II
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:45 AM (ONvIw)
522
He got a big fat 10 figure check. Dinsey got the albatross.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:41 AM (hku12)
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Disney probably overpaid but it didn't have to be an albatross. Unfortunately, Disney allowed a woke female exec with no understanding of the property and contempt for its fan base to run it into the ground.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:41 AM (hku12)
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Disney probably overpaid but it didn't have to be an albatross. Unfortunately, Disney allowed a woke female exec with no understanding of the property and contempt for its fan base to run it into the ground.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 11:45 AM (wPVhA)
523
Kanye's plan couldn't possibly be meant to siphon off black votes from the DEMs, right?
I mean, that would be crazy talk.
Hahahah
I mean, that would be crazy talk.
Hahahah
Posted by: Thesokorus at July 05, 2020 11:46 AM (YQKmh)
524
Someone stole my Pants.........I am in Aisle 6 doing Library stuff............................
Someone stole my Pants.........I am in Aisle 6 doing Library stuff............................
Posted by: saf at July 05, 2020 11:47 AM (5IHGB)
525
"what is the ONLY US Battleship NOT named for a state? I mean a ship actually classed as a battleship, not something some dumb report describes as one."
The USS Kearsarge (BB-5), launched in 1898, decommissioned in 1909 and scrapped in 1955.
The USS Kearsarge (BB-5), launched in 1898, decommissioned in 1909 and scrapped in 1955.
Posted by: Secret Square at July 05, 2020 11:47 AM (9WuX0)
Posted by: the_sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at July 05, 2020 11:47 AM (0IMgo)
527
@511
What's fun about writing mysteries is that there is necessarily a template, being as somebody's dead and somebody else has to figure out whodunit.
The hard part is seeding the clues so that they're not too obvious and not too obscure, so the reader feels it was plausible.
It's like a romance, where the reader knows how it will end, but the writer has to make how it gets there interesting.
that's why I love Agatha Christie. She was the best at this.
What's fun about writing mysteries is that there is necessarily a template, being as somebody's dead and somebody else has to figure out whodunit.
The hard part is seeding the clues so that they're not too obvious and not too obscure, so the reader feels it was plausible.
It's like a romance, where the reader knows how it will end, but the writer has to make how it gets there interesting.
that's why I love Agatha Christie. She was the best at this.
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:47 AM (AwPyG)
528
Just saw a French protester on OAN who said "we want direct democracy, not elections". I am not making this up.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 05, 2020 11:42 AM (6XLoz)
So by 'direct democracy' they mean the guillotine right?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 05, 2020 11:44 AM (Jx5Qs)
Pretty sure it means elect one's leaders directly, rather than having the parties "form a government," based on the parcelling out of offices to various and several parties that form coalitions.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 05, 2020 11:42 AM (6XLoz)
So by 'direct democracy' they mean the guillotine right?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 05, 2020 11:44 AM (Jx5Qs)
Pretty sure it means elect one's leaders directly, rather than having the parties "form a government," based on the parcelling out of offices to various and several parties that form coalitions.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:47 AM (hku12)
529
Neighbors' grandkids just collected their kayaks out of my shop. They're going fishing, they said.
Maybe there's a better way to spend the fifth of July but damifiknow what it would be.
Maybe there's a better way to spend the fifth of July but damifiknow what it would be.
Posted by: creeper at July 05, 2020 11:48 AM (XxJt1)
530
514 Fireworks and/or small arms fire have commenced.
Posted by: klaftern at July 05, 2020 11:43 AM (RuIsu)
Some of the ordnance I heard last night in my neighborhood probably were in violation of several arms limitation treaties.
Posted by: klaftern at July 05, 2020 11:43 AM (RuIsu)
Some of the ordnance I heard last night in my neighborhood probably were in violation of several arms limitation treaties.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at July 05, 2020 11:48 AM (LkGkk)
531
If you adopt that view, that makes Wodehouse and most mystery writers "not good enough". Implausible.
Posted by: Eeyore
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The fact that many writers are 'template' writers doesn't mean that their writing isn't entertaining. Quite the contrary, it has been found to be entertaining to a significant body of readers. I usually use John Grisham as an example.
After reading Grisham's second novel, I no longer bothered, but that doesn't mean that other's do not find them entertaining.
OTOH, I have a terrible weakness for Wodehouse and make no excuses for it. I simply find his writing entertaining.
Mickey Spillane informed his critics, "I'm not an author, I'm a writer, that's all I am. Authors want their names down in history; I want to keep the smoke coming out of the chimney."
Shallow pulp, but sold 200 Million +
Posted by: Eeyore
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The fact that many writers are 'template' writers doesn't mean that their writing isn't entertaining. Quite the contrary, it has been found to be entertaining to a significant body of readers. I usually use John Grisham as an example.
After reading Grisham's second novel, I no longer bothered, but that doesn't mean that other's do not find them entertaining.
OTOH, I have a terrible weakness for Wodehouse and make no excuses for it. I simply find his writing entertaining.
Mickey Spillane informed his critics, "I'm not an author, I'm a writer, that's all I am. Authors want their names down in history; I want to keep the smoke coming out of the chimney."
Shallow pulp, but sold 200 Million +
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2020 11:48 AM (bk3Sg)
532
525 "what is the ONLY US Battleship NOT named for a state? I mean a ship actually classed as a battleship, not something some dumb report describes as one."
The USS Kearsarge (BB-5), launched in 1898, decommissioned in 1909 and scrapped in 1955.
Posted by: Secret Square at July 05, 2020 11:47 AM (9WuX0)
________
Excellent!
Brass figligee with Oak Leaf clusters.
The USS Kearsarge (BB-5), launched in 1898, decommissioned in 1909 and scrapped in 1955.
Posted by: Secret Square at July 05, 2020 11:47 AM (9WuX0)
________
Excellent!
Brass figligee with Oak Leaf clusters.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 11:48 AM (LMs+g)
533
Newcomer Lauren Boebert beat incumbent RINO Scott Tipton (CR score F) in Colorado.
More of this please!
More of this please!
Posted by: IrishEi at July 05, 2020 11:49 AM (sGotD)
534
@516
See my earlier post about the KCal 9 news excerpt, and the fireworks.
If people are this mad in California, imagine the rest of the country.
See my earlier post about the KCal 9 news excerpt, and the fireworks.
If people are this mad in California, imagine the rest of the country.
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:49 AM (AwPyG)
535
He got a big fat 10 figure check. Dinsey got the albatross.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:41 AM (hku12)
---------
Disney probably overpaid but it didn't have to be an albatross. Unfortunately, Disney allowed a woke female exec with no understanding of the property and contempt for its fan base to run it into the ground.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 11:45 AM (wPVhA)
It had to be an albatross because Dinsey is the "entertainment" arm of the Chinese communist party in this country. And beyond.
And the geniuses there didn't seem to get the memo... Star Wars doesn't sell well in China.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:41 AM (hku12)
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Disney probably overpaid but it didn't have to be an albatross. Unfortunately, Disney allowed a woke female exec with no understanding of the property and contempt for its fan base to run it into the ground.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 11:45 AM (wPVhA)
It had to be an albatross because Dinsey is the "entertainment" arm of the Chinese communist party in this country. And beyond.
And the geniuses there didn't seem to get the memo... Star Wars doesn't sell well in China.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:50 AM (hku12)
536
Only 11 years in service, was that an opps
Posted by: Jean at July 05, 2020 11:50 AM (W2wbi)
537
Both Belloc and Waugh thought Wodehouse the greatest contemporary master of English. Even Mencken said he was the only Brit who could write American.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 11:50 AM (LMs+g)
538
534 @516
See my earlier post about the KCal 9 news excerpt, and the fireworks.
If people are this mad in California, imagine the rest of the country.
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:49 AM (AwPyG)
It was wild in NJ, and I suspect a lot of it was in the illegal category, but I haven't heard about fires or injuries, so all's well. In your face, Murphy!
See my earlier post about the KCal 9 news excerpt, and the fireworks.
If people are this mad in California, imagine the rest of the country.
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:49 AM (AwPyG)
It was wild in NJ, and I suspect a lot of it was in the illegal category, but I haven't heard about fires or injuries, so all's well. In your face, Murphy!
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:51 AM (ONvIw)
539
>>Fwiw I am back to 2016 lvls of confidence in Trump victory.
>>It is going to be even better.
>>People are furious at the press and the DEM politicians.
In their own idiotic way the left has told us exactly what they have in store for us if Trump doesn't win. They pulled the mask off way too soon.
Some people will vote for Trump because they like what he is doing. Many others will come along because they are scared to death of what the left has in mind.
>>It is going to be even better.
>>People are furious at the press and the DEM politicians.
In their own idiotic way the left has told us exactly what they have in store for us if Trump doesn't win. They pulled the mask off way too soon.
Some people will vote for Trump because they like what he is doing. Many others will come along because they are scared to death of what the left has in mind.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2020 11:51 AM (ZLI7S)
540
This weekend I read Derek Hunter's "Outrage, Inc.: How the Liberal Mob Ruined Science, Journalism, and Hollywood." I highly recommend it - it's short, 200-page look at all the ways groupthink and the narrative has ruined those fields and more. Hunter backs up his statements with studies, facts and citations galore, and does so in a highly readable style. One drawback: the book was published in 2018, so he missed all the latest craziness. If you haven't heard his podcast, "The Derek Hunter Show," check it out! I first learned about him here at Ace of Spades.
Posted by: CarolinaGirl at July 05, 2020 11:51 AM (1qlYG)
541
537 Both Belloc and Waugh thought Wodehouse the greatest contemporary master of English. Even Mencken said he was the only Brit who could write American.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 11:50 AM (LMs+g)
Like with Kipling. The high-brows were dumbfounded and jealous that guy made them look so bad...
537 Both Belloc and Waugh thought Wodehouse the greatest contemporary master of English. Even Mencken said he was the only Brit who could write American.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 11:50 AM (LMs+g)
Like with Kipling. The high-brows were dumbfounded and jealous that guy made them look so bad...
Posted by: Thesokorus at July 05, 2020 11:52 AM (YQKmh)
542
Here is the Jag driver and those he hit. Scroll down.
https://tinyurl.com/y8myqs56
Posted by: Javems
Looks like he knows how to have fun. But those two who got runover, lord almighty! What is the attraction to making yourself as ugly as possible?
https://tinyurl.com/y8myqs56
Posted by: Javems
Looks like he knows how to have fun. But those two who got runover, lord almighty! What is the attraction to making yourself as ugly as possible?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 05, 2020 11:52 AM (+y/Ru)
543
Just saw a French protester on OAN who said "we want direct democracy, not elections". I am not making this up.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 05, 2020 11:42 AM (6XLoz)
So by 'direct democracy' they mean the guillotine right?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 05, 2020 11:44 AM (Jx5Qs)
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This never ends well...
Posted by: Ian S. at July 05, 2020 11:42 AM (6XLoz)
So by 'direct democracy' they mean the guillotine right?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 05, 2020 11:44 AM (Jx5Qs)
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This never ends well...
Posted by: Robespierre at July 05, 2020 11:53 AM (pK7cg)
544
532 525 "what is the ONLY US Battleship NOT named for a state? I mean a ship actually classed as a battleship, not something some dumb report describes as one."
The USS Kearsarge (BB-5), launched in 1898, decommissioned in 1909 and scrapped in 1955.
Posted by: Secret Square at July 05, 2020 11:47 AM (9WuX0)
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I was going to say the USS Missouri on the logic that technically speaking, Missouri is more of a palatinate than a state.
The USS Kearsarge (BB-5), launched in 1898, decommissioned in 1909 and scrapped in 1955.
Posted by: Secret Square at July 05, 2020 11:47 AM (9WuX0)
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I was going to say the USS Missouri on the logic that technically speaking, Missouri is more of a palatinate than a state.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 11:53 AM (wPVhA)
545
Newcomer Lauren Boebert beat incumbent RINO Scott Tipton (CR score F) in Colorado.
More of this please!
Posted by: IrishEi at July 05, 2020 11:49 AM (sGotD)
Hopefully she wins in November, but the combined votes for her and Tipton barely beat the Democrat primary vote total.
She's up against another chick, and I sincerely hope we don't have too many yokels out here who won't vote for a chick, and are butthurt she beat the squish RINO incumbent.
More of this please!
Posted by: IrishEi at July 05, 2020 11:49 AM (sGotD)
Hopefully she wins in November, but the combined votes for her and Tipton barely beat the Democrat primary vote total.
She's up against another chick, and I sincerely hope we don't have too many yokels out here who won't vote for a chick, and are butthurt she beat the squish RINO incumbent.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:53 AM (hku12)
546
My ER doctors neighbor says July 4-5 is one of the busiest 24 hour period. Lotsa fireworks related injuries and food poisoning . People leave the mayo out too long in the sun I guess?
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at July 05, 2020 11:53 AM (JJrfj)
547
>>>In the header notes to Revelation, it mentions that the word Apocalypse means "unveiling". Posted by: the_sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at July 05, 2020 11:38 AM
People with lead roles in software design, after a big project is complete, produce in depth writing about the back-history for the software and their ideas about the future. These revelations are sometimes referred to as an apocalypse. The most notable example, I think, is Larry Wall's extensive series of apocalypse on Perl.
People with lead roles in software design, after a big project is complete, produce in depth writing about the back-history for the software and their ideas about the future. These revelations are sometimes referred to as an apocalypse. The most notable example, I think, is Larry Wall's extensive series of apocalypse on Perl.
Posted by: banana Dream at July 05, 2020 11:53 AM (l6b3d)
548
Another fun battleship fact: the Iowa-class battleships (Iowa, Missouri, Wisconsin, New Jersey) were originally supposed to include 2 more: the USS Illinois and the USS Kentucky. The Kentucky was never built and the Illinois was cancelled during its construction. However, the bell from the (planned) USS Illinois now resides at the U of I's Memorial Stadium and is rung whenever the Illini score a touchdown.
Posted by: Secret Square at July 05, 2020 11:53 AM (9WuX0)
549
Some people will vote for Trump because they like what he is doing. Many others will come along because they are scared to death of what the left has in mind.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2020 11:51 AM (ZLI7S)
I hope you're right and that voters don't decide that they have to vote dem because otherwise they "make the black kids angry". Better to pay up like businesses did. Business kissing up so hard is not a good sign.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2020 11:51 AM (ZLI7S)
I hope you're right and that voters don't decide that they have to vote dem because otherwise they "make the black kids angry". Better to pay up like businesses did. Business kissing up so hard is not a good sign.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:54 AM (ONvIw)
550
I'm stumped on the BB question and not going to look it up just now. The USN has really screwed up all naming conventions the last twenty years.
I wasn't thrilled with latest CVN naming continuing the trend, but great improvement over Stennis or Vinson.
I wasn't thrilled with latest CVN naming continuing the trend, but great improvement over Stennis or Vinson.
Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at July 05, 2020 11:54 AM (x8Q/V)
551
Some people will vote for Trump because they like what he is doing. Many others will come along because they are scared to death of what the left has in mind.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2020 11:51 AM (ZLI7S)
They turned the whole damn political party into Hillary.
And everyone hates Hillary on a visceral level.
The amount of closeted fury is off the charts.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2020 11:51 AM (ZLI7S)
They turned the whole damn political party into Hillary.
And everyone hates Hillary on a visceral level.
The amount of closeted fury is off the charts.
Posted by: Thesokorus at July 05, 2020 11:54 AM (YQKmh)
552
I picked up a hard cover copy of "Your Cabin in the Woods" by Conrad Meinecke. This is a reprint of a book from the 40s. It's nicely done, looks a lot like the original would have been. I found some other camping reprints, that I think are by the same publisher.
It's more like a wish book than a how-to. It has large margins for your notes and nice illustrations.
It's more like a wish book than a how-to. It has large margins for your notes and nice illustrations.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 05, 2020 11:55 AM (YynYJ)
553
The roar of boats on the lake is being drowned out by the sound of a thousand motorcycles circling it.
Posted by: creeper at July 05, 2020 11:55 AM (XxJt1)
554
I hope you're right and that voters don't decide that they have to vote dem because otherwise they "make the black kids angry". Better to pay up like businesses did. Business kissing up so hard is not a good sign.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:54 AM (ONvIw)
It's still a secret ballot.
For now.
They'll need to get rid of that soon.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:54 AM (ONvIw)
It's still a secret ballot.
For now.
They'll need to get rid of that soon.
Posted by: Thesokorus at July 05, 2020 11:55 AM (YQKmh)
555
It's still a secret ballot.
For now.
They'll need to get rid of that soon.
Posted by: Thesokorus at July 05, 2020 11:55 AM (YQKmh)
Not when it's mail in
It's still a secret ballot.
For now.
They'll need to get rid of that soon.
Posted by: Thesokorus at July 05, 2020 11:55 AM (YQKmh)
Not when it's mail in
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:56 AM (ONvIw)
556
" If you haven't heard his podcast, "The Derek Hunter Show," check it out! I first learned about him here at Ace of Spades."
Derek used to be on one of our local B'More talk radio stations.
I was delighted to see that he was picked up later by WCBM, 680 AM, in B'more after he was let go by the other station.
Even sent hm an AoSHQ cookbook back when they first came out.
(See how that makes this appropriate for the Book Thread?)
Derek used to be on one of our local B'More talk radio stations.
I was delighted to see that he was picked up later by WCBM, 680 AM, in B'more after he was let go by the other station.
Even sent hm an AoSHQ cookbook back when they first came out.
(See how that makes this appropriate for the Book Thread?)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 05, 2020 11:56 AM (3D/fK)
557
Looks like he knows how to have fun. But those two who got runover, lord almighty! What is the attraction to making yourself as ugly as possible?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 05, 2020 11:52 AM (+y/Ru)
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The old-line commies wore suits made of carpet-remnants and unkempt beards. For ours, it's stupid tattoos and stupider haircuts.
I think commies virtue signal their intellectual superiority by eschewing normal standards of dress and hygiene.
We used to stow this kind of annoying, mentally unstable asswipe in mountaintop monasteries during smarter times.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 05, 2020 11:52 AM (+y/Ru)
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The old-line commies wore suits made of carpet-remnants and unkempt beards. For ours, it's stupid tattoos and stupider haircuts.
I think commies virtue signal their intellectual superiority by eschewing normal standards of dress and hygiene.
We used to stow this kind of annoying, mentally unstable asswipe in mountaintop monasteries during smarter times.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 05, 2020 11:57 AM (PBmdd)
558
Just saw a French protester on OAN who said "we want direct democracy, not elections". I am not making this up.
Posted by: Ian S.
He speaks for the will of the people.
Posted by: Ian S.
He speaks for the will of the people.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 05, 2020 11:57 AM (+y/Ru)
559
Just saw a French protester on OAN who said "we want direct democracy, not elections". I am not making this up.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 05, 2020 11:42 AM (6XLoz)
So by 'direct democracy' they mean the guillotine right?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 05, 2020 11:44 AM (Jx5Qs)
Pretty sure it means elect one's leaders directly, rather than having the parties "form a government," based on the parcelling out of offices to various and several parties that form coalitions.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:47 AM (hku12)
Funny thing, the Frogs are virtually the only developed nation who directly elects their Head of Government. Everyone else uses indirect means, like parliamentary, electoral college, etc. Or they're dictatorships/monarchies.
Just saw a French protester on OAN who said "we want direct democracy, not elections". I am not making this up.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 05, 2020 11:42 AM (6XLoz)
So by 'direct democracy' they mean the guillotine right?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 05, 2020 11:44 AM (Jx5Qs)
Pretty sure it means elect one's leaders directly, rather than having the parties "form a government," based on the parcelling out of offices to various and several parties that form coalitions.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:47 AM (hku12)
Funny thing, the Frogs are virtually the only developed nation who directly elects their Head of Government. Everyone else uses indirect means, like parliamentary, electoral college, etc. Or they're dictatorships/monarchies.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 05, 2020 11:57 AM (LoXTY)
560
I was going to say the USS Missouri on the logic that technically speaking, Missouri is more of a palatinate than a state.
Posted by: Cicero
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So, has there ever been a USS Rhode Island and Providence Plantation?
I was going to say the USS Missouri on the logic that technically speaking, Missouri is more of a palatinate than a state.
Posted by: Cicero
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So, has there ever been a USS Rhode Island and Providence Plantation?
Posted by: Robespierre at July 05, 2020 11:57 AM (pK7cg)
561
Not when it's mail in
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:56 AM (ONvIw)
Fair point.
But we haven't seen punishment for voting incorrectly yet.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:56 AM (ONvIw)
Fair point.
But we haven't seen punishment for voting incorrectly yet.
Posted by: Thesokorus at July 05, 2020 11:57 AM (YQKmh)
562
Oops /Headless Jacobin
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2020 11:58 AM (pK7cg)
563
Pretty sure it means elect one's leaders directly, rather than having the parties "form a government," based on the parcelling out of offices to various and several parties that form coalitions.
Posted by: BurtTC
Interesting that the response to the terror of the Paris mob was the White Terror
Posted by: BurtTC
Interesting that the response to the terror of the Paris mob was the White Terror
Posted by: Jean at July 05, 2020 11:58 AM (W2wbi)
564
But we haven't seen punishment for voting incorrectly yet.
Posted by: Thesokorus at July 05, 2020 11:57 AM (YQKmh)
Oh yeah?
Posted by: Thesokorus at July 05, 2020 11:57 AM (YQKmh)
Oh yeah?
Posted by: BignJames at July 05, 2020 11:59 AM (X/Pw5)
565
@555
You know, that's a very good point. You really can't have a "secret" mail in ballot, because it's not deposited directly in a ballot box--it can always be traced. I wonder if anyone's raised this?
You know, that's a very good point. You really can't have a "secret" mail in ballot, because it's not deposited directly in a ballot box--it can always be traced. I wonder if anyone's raised this?
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:59 AM (AwPyG)
566
Fair point.
But we haven't seen punishment for voting incorrectly yet.
Posted by: Thesokorus at July 05, 2020 11:57 AM (YQKmh)
Yet is right. They know who you are and where you live with mail in. And the ballot, in my case, would go right to true blue Trenton.
But we haven't seen punishment for voting incorrectly yet.
Posted by: Thesokorus at July 05, 2020 11:57 AM (YQKmh)
Yet is right. They know who you are and where you live with mail in. And the ballot, in my case, would go right to true blue Trenton.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 11:59 AM (ONvIw)
567
Some of the ordnance I heard last night in my neighborhood probably were in violation of several arms limitation treaties.
I love that we can just go to a tent ini the Walmart parking lot and buy artillery. Just make sure you wear a safety tie!
I love that we can just go to a tent ini the Walmart parking lot and buy artillery. Just make sure you wear a safety tie!
Posted by: t-bird at July 05, 2020 12:00 PM (OFJlJ)
568
I assume direct democracy means everyone has a vote on laws etc., instead of electing representatives to vote for you.
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 05, 2020 12:00 PM (rWZ8Y)
569
I took up reading Wen Spenser's sequel to Tinker, Wolf Who Rules, because Iron Granpa (I think) talked about reading it, I enjoyed it and I thought I should take a stab at reading the sequel:
Tinker Dufae is an orphan in Pittsburgh. Her genius grandfather created a warp gate in orbit for interstellar travel, but made a mistake so when it was turned on it lost the ships and dragged Pittsburgh into Elfland, where it stays for a while and then cycles back to Earth again.
The Elves knew about Humans, and last had visited Earth during the Elizabethan period, before the natural portals closed, so they were interested in this new development since Earth provided possibility of trade for the Elves, and where the Elves had an advantage of controlling magic, the humans had Iron and technology. Tinker is a jackleg engineer combining technology and magic. Which comes natural to her as she is descended from some of the stranded Elves from the Elizabethan period.
The first book is about how Tinker was kidnapped by a third race, the Oni, who come from another reality, and had influenced Japanese culture way back before the natural portals closed, and they are vicious, murderous and totally callous. They and one of their subject races had gotten Tinker's grandfather to build the warp gate, and they wanted another built so they could invade Earth and other worlds, at will.
Wolf Who Rules, starts up after Tinker has both destroyed the interstellar gate, and been magically converted into an Elf to marry the clan head of the Wind Clan of Elves, who rule Pittsburgh in its transition to Elfland.
In this she learns of the races subject to the Oni, fights dragons, and tries to unravel the ongoing dreams that seem to be wild variations on the Wizard of Oz, and learns the fate of the lost spaceships, while trying to both rebuild the warp gate to rescue Pittsburgh, resolve the growing area of chaos and destruction created by the destruction of the previous gate, and stop an invasion by the Oni from their homeworld.
It starts slow, and Wen Spenser does better sci-fi than high fantasy, but she manages to imbue her high with a nice flavor of cyberpunk.
Tinker Dufae is an orphan in Pittsburgh. Her genius grandfather created a warp gate in orbit for interstellar travel, but made a mistake so when it was turned on it lost the ships and dragged Pittsburgh into Elfland, where it stays for a while and then cycles back to Earth again.
The Elves knew about Humans, and last had visited Earth during the Elizabethan period, before the natural portals closed, so they were interested in this new development since Earth provided possibility of trade for the Elves, and where the Elves had an advantage of controlling magic, the humans had Iron and technology. Tinker is a jackleg engineer combining technology and magic. Which comes natural to her as she is descended from some of the stranded Elves from the Elizabethan period.
The first book is about how Tinker was kidnapped by a third race, the Oni, who come from another reality, and had influenced Japanese culture way back before the natural portals closed, and they are vicious, murderous and totally callous. They and one of their subject races had gotten Tinker's grandfather to build the warp gate, and they wanted another built so they could invade Earth and other worlds, at will.
Wolf Who Rules, starts up after Tinker has both destroyed the interstellar gate, and been magically converted into an Elf to marry the clan head of the Wind Clan of Elves, who rule Pittsburgh in its transition to Elfland.
In this she learns of the races subject to the Oni, fights dragons, and tries to unravel the ongoing dreams that seem to be wild variations on the Wizard of Oz, and learns the fate of the lost spaceships, while trying to both rebuild the warp gate to rescue Pittsburgh, resolve the growing area of chaos and destruction created by the destruction of the previous gate, and stop an invasion by the Oni from their homeworld.
It starts slow, and Wen Spenser does better sci-fi than high fantasy, but she manages to imbue her high with a nice flavor of cyberpunk.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2020 12:00 PM (WyVLE)
570
Artemis, I'd say you're pretty good at it too. I think the continuity of characters is what makes a series interesting. You get a feel for their personalities and look forward to how they deal with the situations as they arise.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 05, 2020 12:00 PM (+mn3h)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 05, 2020 12:01 PM (wPVhA)
572
Pretty sure it means elect one's leaders directly, rather than having the parties "form a government," based on the parcelling out of offices to various and several parties that form coalitions.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:47 AM (hku12)
Funny thing, the Frogs are virtually the only developed nation who directly elects their Head of Government. Everyone else uses indirect means, like parliamentary, electoral college, etc. Or they're dictatorships/monarchies.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 05, 2020 11:57 AM (LoXTY)
Unless I'm mistaken, the PM is selected by the parliament, and the President is elected.
The PM is the one who actually runs things.
I think it used to be that the President was much more of a figurehead, but I still don't believe he/she really has much power.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 11:47 AM (hku12)
Funny thing, the Frogs are virtually the only developed nation who directly elects their Head of Government. Everyone else uses indirect means, like parliamentary, electoral college, etc. Or they're dictatorships/monarchies.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 05, 2020 11:57 AM (LoXTY)
Unless I'm mistaken, the PM is selected by the parliament, and the President is elected.
The PM is the one who actually runs things.
I think it used to be that the President was much more of a figurehead, but I still don't believe he/she really has much power.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 12:01 PM (hku12)
573
541
537 Both Belloc and Waugh thought Wodehouse the greatest contemporary master of English. Even Mencken said he was the only Brit who could write American.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 11:50 AM (LMs+g)
Like with Kipling. The high-brows were dumbfounded and jealous that guy made them look so bad...
Posted by: Thesokorus at July 05, 2020 11:52 AM (YQKmh)
________
You know, Henry James, of all people, was an enthusiastic Kipling fan.
537 Both Belloc and Waugh thought Wodehouse the greatest contemporary master of English. Even Mencken said he was the only Brit who could write American.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 11:50 AM (LMs+g)
Like with Kipling. The high-brows were dumbfounded and jealous that guy made them look so bad...
Posted by: Thesokorus at July 05, 2020 11:52 AM (YQKmh)
________
You know, Henry James, of all people, was an enthusiastic Kipling fan.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 12:01 PM (LMs+g)
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 12:02 PM (AwPyG)
575
"You know, that's a very good point. You really can't have a "secret" mail in ballot, because it's not deposited directly in a ballot box--it can always be traced. I wonder if anyone's raised this?"
In all the years that Mrs VIA and I were Polling Judges for Baltimore County elections, we were never allowed to even touch a voters ballot in any manner, once the motor took physical possession of it, including feeding it into the scanner, or dropping into the Provisional Ballot bag.
So now we are talking about individuals who are not the voter opening up envelopes, removing the ballot, and scanning them into the system?
In all the years that Mrs VIA and I were Polling Judges for Baltimore County elections, we were never allowed to even touch a voters ballot in any manner, once the motor took physical possession of it, including feeding it into the scanner, or dropping into the Provisional Ballot bag.
So now we are talking about individuals who are not the voter opening up envelopes, removing the ballot, and scanning them into the system?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 05, 2020 12:02 PM (3D/fK)
576
Looks like he knows how to have fun. But those two who got runover, lord almighty! What is the attraction to making yourself as ugly as possible?
If you don't feel adequate to fit in with the norms, it's easy to freak yourself up and fit in with the oddballs.
I think this explains a large amount of human behavior.
If you don't feel adequate to fit in with the norms, it's easy to freak yourself up and fit in with the oddballs.
I think this explains a large amount of human behavior.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 05, 2020 12:03 PM (oVJmc)
577
>>Yet is right. They know who you are and where you live with mail in. And the ballot, in my case, would go right to true blue Trenton.
So Trump won't take NJ this year? I bet he's figured that into his calculations.
So Trump won't take NJ this year? I bet he's figured that into his calculations.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2020 12:03 PM (ZLI7S)
578
Not when it's mail in
Mail-in is very much a secret ballot. Who printed it? To whom was it sent? Who actually opened the envelope?
Mail-in is very much a secret ballot. Who printed it? To whom was it sent? Who actually opened the envelope?
Posted by: t-bird at July 05, 2020 12:03 PM (1fg6a)
579
Why were the Seattle Police putting up barricades to allow Antifa to shut down a US Interstate?
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2020 10:58 AM (V2Yro)
See Article 23, Section 109 of the Terms of Surrender signed by Mayor Durkin.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 05, 2020 10:58 AM (V2Yro)
See Article 23, Section 109 of the Terms of Surrender signed by Mayor Durkin.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 05, 2020 12:04 PM (e1mEI)
580
Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2020 12:00 PM (WyVLE)
I REALLY enjoyed the Tinker series
You should also try her earlier sf series about Ukiah Oregon
In fact my biggest problem with Wen Spencer is tgat she writes too slowly
her books are just fun
I REALLY enjoyed the Tinker series
You should also try her earlier sf series about Ukiah Oregon
In fact my biggest problem with Wen Spencer is tgat she writes too slowly
her books are just fun
Posted by: vmom 2020 waving Stars & Stripes at July 05, 2020 12:06 PM (OCRKH)
581
Mail-in is very much a secret ballot. Who printed it? To whom was it sent? Who actually opened the envelope?
Posted by: t-bird at July 05, 2020 12:03 PM (1fg6a)
Ridiculous. You cannot detach the part with your name, address and party affiliation. Nothing secret about it and easy to toss out the ones that say REP
Posted by: t-bird at July 05, 2020 12:03 PM (1fg6a)
Ridiculous. You cannot detach the part with your name, address and party affiliation. Nothing secret about it and easy to toss out the ones that say REP
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 12:06 PM (ONvIw)
582
581 Mail-in is very much a secret ballot. Who printed it? To whom was it sent? Who actually opened the envelope?
Posted by: t-bird at July 05, 2020 12:03 PM (1fg6a)
Ridiculous. You cannot detach the part with your name, address and party affiliation. Nothing secret about it and easy to toss out the ones that say REP
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 12:06 PM (ONvIw)
Plus in NJ you sign it and print your address again.
Posted by: t-bird at July 05, 2020 12:03 PM (1fg6a)
Ridiculous. You cannot detach the part with your name, address and party affiliation. Nothing secret about it and easy to toss out the ones that say REP
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 12:06 PM (ONvIw)
Plus in NJ you sign it and print your address again.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 12:07 PM (ONvIw)
583
So now we are talking about individuals who are not the voter opening up envelopes, removing the ballot, and scanning them into the system?
Posted by: Village
Sort of, they identify anyone who didn't vote properly for re-education.
Posted by: Village
Sort of, they identify anyone who didn't vote properly for re-education.
Posted by: Jean at July 05, 2020 12:08 PM (W2wbi)
584
Osprey Books also does entire series on Uniforms for those of us who used to paint miniatures.
I used to have a lot of them covering the Napoleonic Era.
I used to have a lot of them covering the Napoleonic Era.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 05, 2020 12:08 PM (NgKpN)
585
I read a book this week!
Hadji Murat, a historical fiction re-telling of the end of the eponymous character by Tolstoy. I believe someone here suggested it. Novella length, which is good for my short attention span. I'm not wild about the translation -- I read the one by husband-and-wife duo Pevear/Volokhonsky).
Hadji Murat went over to the Russians because of feud with Shamil, leader of Caucasian resistance to Imperial Russia (1850s - ish). Didn't get what he wanted from Russians, so tried to escape and was killed.
The actual history is more convoluted and interesting. Tolstoy's version seemed unfinished and less wrenching.
I perused a little of wikipedia's offerings on Georgia, and specifically ran across the violent ethnic cleansing in early 1990s: Sukhumi Massacre (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Sukhumi_massacre). Horrible. Horrible!
But curiously I am motivated to learn the Georgian alphabet.
Hadji Murat, a historical fiction re-telling of the end of the eponymous character by Tolstoy. I believe someone here suggested it. Novella length, which is good for my short attention span. I'm not wild about the translation -- I read the one by husband-and-wife duo Pevear/Volokhonsky).
Hadji Murat went over to the Russians because of feud with Shamil, leader of Caucasian resistance to Imperial Russia (1850s - ish). Didn't get what he wanted from Russians, so tried to escape and was killed.
The actual history is more convoluted and interesting. Tolstoy's version seemed unfinished and less wrenching.
I perused a little of wikipedia's offerings on Georgia, and specifically ran across the violent ethnic cleansing in early 1990s: Sukhumi Massacre (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Sukhumi_massacre). Horrible. Horrible!
But curiously I am motivated to learn the Georgian alphabet.
Posted by: sinmi at July 05, 2020 12:08 PM (A5IVt)
586
@578
Mail in can't be a secret ballot because of the anti-fraud measures that have to be in place. (Otherwise, the bad guys would print up a zillon ballots and flood the system, which is why we see stories about 20 ballots being sent to an empty apartment)
So in mail in, there has to be a system to try to trace the ballot ITSELF to the lawful citizen, and that's where you lose anonymity.
That's why the normal procedure is to check that the PERSON is a legitimate voter, and then let them have a ballot to place in a community ballot box. the "verification" should be on the person, not the ballot itself, and in mail in voting it's backwards. Very interesting argument.
Mail in can't be a secret ballot because of the anti-fraud measures that have to be in place. (Otherwise, the bad guys would print up a zillon ballots and flood the system, which is why we see stories about 20 ballots being sent to an empty apartment)
So in mail in, there has to be a system to try to trace the ballot ITSELF to the lawful citizen, and that's where you lose anonymity.
That's why the normal procedure is to check that the PERSON is a legitimate voter, and then let them have a ballot to place in a community ballot box. the "verification" should be on the person, not the ballot itself, and in mail in voting it's backwards. Very interesting argument.
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 12:08 PM (AwPyG)
587
571 Book thread is over. Everybody out of the pool.
NOOD
Posted by: Cicero
NO!
*splashes around sulkiky*
NOOD
Posted by: Cicero
NO!
*splashes around sulkiky*
Posted by: vmom 2020 waving Stars & Stripes at July 05, 2020 12:08 PM (OCRKH)
588
Not sure if it has been mentioned here. But one of the two people hit by that car in Seattle has died, Summer Taylor, 24. The guy who hit them, Dawit Kelete, only 27 himself, apparently entered the freeway by driving up an exit ramp, I suppose to avoid a police barricade. But then he was driving in the proper direction of traffic after that. Not sure why I feel pretty terrible about this. Terrible for Summer, terrible for Dawit. Hope this is all worth it for the people organizing these protests.
Posted by: MikeM at July 05, 2020 10:41 AM (jVBo5)
Taps giveafuck meter. Nope, still zero.
Posted by: MikeM at July 05, 2020 10:41 AM (jVBo5)
Taps giveafuck meter. Nope, still zero.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2020 12:08 PM (kwOmX)
589
Mail in voting inserts another human being between the vote casters ballot, and the ballot box.
Yes, absentee voting has that same opportunity for mischief, but not at such a grand scale as a state wide mail in election.
They do indeed intend to make up for it in volume.
Yes, absentee voting has that same opportunity for mischief, but not at such a grand scale as a state wide mail in election.
They do indeed intend to make up for it in volume.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 05, 2020 12:09 PM (3D/fK)
590
550 I'm stumped on the BB question and not going to look it up just now. The USN has really screwed up all naming conventions the last twenty years.
I wasn't thrilled with latest CVN naming continuing the trend, but great improvement over Stennis or Vinson.
Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at July 05, 2020 11:54 AM (x8Q/V)
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As one might expect, I hate the new rules.
The original carrier rules developed by accident. We actually lay down 6 battlecruisers, to be named after "ships of the old navy", including Lexington and Saratoga. Also President, United States, Constellation, and either Ranger or Constitution. (I don't like the use of the latter name; she was still in commission.)
The could not be completed as such, under the Washington Treaty, but two could be completed as carriers. (The Langley was an experimental ship - one off.) So when we continued, we stuck to that pattern, Ranger, Yorktown, etc. Note that this did include some people, notably Franklin, who got 2 sisters named after him, including Bonhomme Richard.
Anyway, as we started building more, we needed more names, and so we adopted battles as well, which many already were so named.
Then FDR died, and the change took hold. I don't like him at all, but can see why. Forrestal was the one that killed it, just not all at once.
I wasn't thrilled with latest CVN naming continuing the trend, but great improvement over Stennis or Vinson.
Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at July 05, 2020 11:54 AM (x8Q/V)
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As one might expect, I hate the new rules.
The original carrier rules developed by accident. We actually lay down 6 battlecruisers, to be named after "ships of the old navy", including Lexington and Saratoga. Also President, United States, Constellation, and either Ranger or Constitution. (I don't like the use of the latter name; she was still in commission.)
The could not be completed as such, under the Washington Treaty, but two could be completed as carriers. (The Langley was an experimental ship - one off.) So when we continued, we stuck to that pattern, Ranger, Yorktown, etc. Note that this did include some people, notably Franklin, who got 2 sisters named after him, including Bonhomme Richard.
Anyway, as we started building more, we needed more names, and so we adopted battles as well, which many already were so named.
Then FDR died, and the change took hold. I don't like him at all, but can see why. Forrestal was the one that killed it, just not all at once.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 12:09 PM (LMs+g)
591
Taps giveafuck meter. Nope, still zero.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2020 12:08 PM (kwOmX)
I share your view.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2020 12:08 PM (kwOmX)
I share your view.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 12:10 PM (ONvIw)
592
Prayers up, Moki !
Posted by: JT at July 05, 2020 12:10 PM (arJlL)
593
"That's why the normal procedure is to check that the PERSON is a legitimate voter, and then let them have a ballot to place in a community ballot box. the "verification" should be on the person, not the ballot itself, and in mail in voting it's backwards. Very interesting argume"
THIS.........this is how it's supposed to work.
THIS.........this is how it's supposed to work.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 05, 2020 12:11 PM (3D/fK)
594
Anybody seen a body count from the rally/speech?
Posted by: BignJames at July 05, 2020 12:12 PM (X/Pw5)
595
Whoops.
Posted by: BignJames at July 05, 2020 12:13 PM (X/Pw5)
596
So Trump won't take NJ this year? I bet he's figured that into his calculations.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2020 12:03 PM (ZLI7S)
Who knows, maybe we have a lot of brave people. But white man on blood thinner bleed a lot and might not take the chance. I can't imagine that this is not about voter intimidation and is really all about St. George Floyd. Especially the part where they show up in towns and suburbs.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2020 12:03 PM (ZLI7S)
Who knows, maybe we have a lot of brave people. But white man on blood thinner bleed a lot and might not take the chance. I can't imagine that this is not about voter intimidation and is really all about St. George Floyd. Especially the part where they show up in towns and suburbs.
Posted by: CN at July 05, 2020 12:13 PM (ONvIw)
597
Her life doesn't matter, does it?
Posted by: Charles Darwin Doing the Humpty Dance on the Interstate at July 05, 2020 11:09 AM (w1ZmK)
Seems she was engaged in self-destruction, anyway.
Posted by: Charles Darwin Doing the Humpty Dance on the Interstate at July 05, 2020 11:09 AM (w1ZmK)
Seems she was engaged in self-destruction, anyway.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2020 12:20 PM (kwOmX)
598
"565 @555
You know, that's a very good point. You really can't have a "secret" mail in ballot, because it's not deposited directly in a ballot box--it can always be traced. I wonder if anyone's raised this?
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:59 AM (AwPyG) "
I'm sure that to the people pushing this, that is a feature, not a bug.
You know, that's a very good point. You really can't have a "secret" mail in ballot, because it's not deposited directly in a ballot box--it can always be traced. I wonder if anyone's raised this?
Posted by: artemis at July 05, 2020 11:59 AM (AwPyG) "
I'm sure that to the people pushing this, that is a feature, not a bug.
Posted by: the_sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at July 05, 2020 12:20 PM (0IMgo)
599
USS Fessenden. Only ship I know of named for a foreigner who was not a dignitary of some sort.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2020 12:25 PM (cGzEU)
600
Unless I'm mistaken, the PM is selected by the parliament, and the President is elected.
The PM is the one who actually runs things.
I think it used to be that the President was much more of a figurehead, but I still don't believe he/she really has much power.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 12:01 PM (hku12)
While that's true of virtually every other PM/President style system, I believe that they stand it on it's head in Frogistan, with the PM being more like the admin assistant to the President.
But I could certainly be wrong.
Unless I'm mistaken, the PM is selected by the parliament, and the President is elected.
The PM is the one who actually runs things.
I think it used to be that the President was much more of a figurehead, but I still don't believe he/she really has much power.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 05, 2020 12:01 PM (hku12)
While that's true of virtually every other PM/President style system, I believe that they stand it on it's head in Frogistan, with the PM being more like the admin assistant to the President.
But I could certainly be wrong.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 05, 2020 12:26 PM (LoXTY)
601
I can't find the book on short notice but I read about a remarkable Viking woman. Remarkable in that she married a real voyager and went with him. They were at the settlement in Newfoundland, per the sagas. The proof that there were Viking settlements in Newfoundland rests in part on the discovery of a spindle. I like to think it was hers.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 05, 2020 12:26 PM (YynYJ)
602
Just in case no one linked it yet:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18751279-stories-of-strange-women
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18751279-stories-of-strange-women
Posted by: 5cats at July 05, 2020 12:29 PM (0Bhkx)
603
Hadji Murat, a historical fiction re-telling of the end of the eponymous character by Tolstoy. I believe someone here suggested it. Novella length, which is good for my short attention span. I'm not wild about the translation -- I read the one by husband-and-wife duo Pevear/Volokhonsky).
I might have been the moron suggesting it. A more contemporary book that talks about the Rooski/Is-slum problems is A Constellation of Vital Phenomena by Anthony Marra, which may have included Hadji Murad in a list of "suggested readings" as an appendix.
I might have been the moron suggesting it. A more contemporary book that talks about the Rooski/Is-slum problems is A Constellation of Vital Phenomena by Anthony Marra, which may have included Hadji Murad in a list of "suggested readings" as an appendix.
Posted by: Captain Hate at July 05, 2020 12:32 PM (y7DUB)
604
I already do no "social media" but this site.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Same here. Can't boycott what you don't use.
I already do no "social media" but this site.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Same here. Can't boycott what you don't use.
Posted by: empire 1 at July 05, 2020 01:07 PM (0qZvE)
605
If you adopt that view, that makes Wodehouse and most mystery writers "not good enough". Implausible.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 11:34 AM (LMs+g)
Well, you're forgetting the meaning of the word "generally".
Wodehouse wrote in the genre of romantic comedy, but he never felt like he was writing the same story over and over. He switched things up enough to keep things fresh.
The best mystery writers are able to keep their series fresh and entertaining because they don't write the exact same story over and over again.
Agatha Christie is such an example.
Some series writers avoid the problem by essentially turning a very long novel into a "series".
I believe JRR Tolkien falls into this category.
But, yeah, IMO most series writers aren't of the same quality.
That's not to say that they can't write an entertaining story. They clearly can.
The test is how many times that you as the reader want to read the exact same story over and over again.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 05, 2020 11:34 AM (LMs+g)
Well, you're forgetting the meaning of the word "generally".
Wodehouse wrote in the genre of romantic comedy, but he never felt like he was writing the same story over and over. He switched things up enough to keep things fresh.
The best mystery writers are able to keep their series fresh and entertaining because they don't write the exact same story over and over again.
Agatha Christie is such an example.
Some series writers avoid the problem by essentially turning a very long novel into a "series".
I believe JRR Tolkien falls into this category.
But, yeah, IMO most series writers aren't of the same quality.
That's not to say that they can't write an entertaining story. They clearly can.
The test is how many times that you as the reader want to read the exact same story over and over again.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 05, 2020 01:07 PM (dWwl8)
606
Dug out my Kipling poetry book to read "The Winners" from upthread, and stumbled across the perfect anthem for the Horde ... his "The Thousandth Man". And we have proven it time and again.
Posted by: empire 1 at July 05, 2020 01:51 PM (0qZvE)
607
Other comments have mentioned it, but I'll reiterate that Calibre does everything you probably need when it comes to managing e-books and Kindles. It runs on Linux as well as Windows (I don't know about Apple). It's especially useful for converting formats.
Posted by: KrackerX at July 05, 2020 02:11 PM (BZKhC)
608
Wait! Are. those. rubber. lederhosen !!?
Posted by: Oleander Salad at July 05, 2020 02:50 PM (IhJme)
609
465 Yeah Id love for America to lose its so called empire. Save trillions a year in being the world police department. Defund THAT police, please!
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at July 05, 2020 11:26 AM (JJrfj)
Why you so desperately want a weak, whiny America is beyond me.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at July 05, 2020 11:26 AM (JJrfj)
Why you so desperately want a weak, whiny America is beyond me.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 05, 2020 07:00 PM (ejsiI)
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Kinda late in the day but here is the article on how to remove DRM on your e-books
https://tinyurl.com/yymm346v
https://tinyurl.com/yymm346v
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