On His Way Out the Door, Ric Grenell Blasts Mark Warner (Richard Burr's Boss) for Trying to Protect Obama Officials From Scrutiny While Also Attempting to Declassify Any Bullshit That Feeds His Narrative

Mark Warner, the Senior Senator from Richard Burr, demanded to know why Richard Grenell was publishing the names of Obama officials who had unmasked Michael Flynn.

His response is great. His basic answers are, 1., Classification is for the protection of sources and methods, not to spare political hacks sunlight, and 2., Go fuck yourself.

Here's 1.:

"My declassification determination was made in the interests of full transparency and public accountability given serious unanswered questions about the potential misuse of intelligence for partisan purposes following the 2016 election," Grenell wrote. "The protection of intelligence sources is always at the fore of any declassification decision I might make. As you well know, the decision to declassify the names of individuals who sought to unmask the identity of General Flynn poses absolutely no risk of compromise of either sources or methods. Additionally, far from undermining the credibility of the Intelligence Community (IC), the utmost transparency in this matter builds public trust and confidence in the Community and ensures the IC will not conceal potential abuse behind unnecessary security classification."

And here's 2.:

"I find it puzzling that your letter initially complains about the declassification of the indemnities of unmaskers, a declassification that posed no conceivable riches to sources or methods, only to then request the declassification of actual intelligence reports. Cherry picking certain documents for release, while attacking the release of others that don't fit your political narrative, is part of the problem the American people have with Washington DC politicians. I would appreciate it if you would explain your philosophy on transparency as it appears to be based solely on political advantage," he continued.

Mark Warner's spokesbitch, Richard Burr, was unavailable for comment.

Update: Grenell has also declassified a document that he says is "very significant" to the understanding of how "intelligence was manipulated" to start the Russiagate Coup.

Fox News has learned that Grenell also completed the declassification review of other documents related to the origins of the Russia probe-- including one that a senior intelligence official told Fox News was "very significant in understanding how intelligence was manipulated to support launching the Russia investigation."

Grenell has declassified the documents, but will leave it to his successor as DNI, John Ratcliffe, to make the decision whether to release them.

Posted by: Ace at 04:57 PM

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1 1st

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 26, 2020 04:58 PM (n4CMO)

2 Yaaaaaasss

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 26, 2020 04:58 PM (n4CMO)

3 BOOM!

Posted by: Inogame at May 26, 2020 04:58 PM (+2xjH)

4 I'll get the others

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 26, 2020 04:58 PM (n4CMO)

5 Top 10?

Posted by: vera at May 26, 2020 04:58 PM (yHpsH)

6 It is nice to finally see "our side" punch back.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 26, 2020 04:59 PM (N39Ws)

7 Wow! That is a serious smackdown because it's polite, professional, and puts the onus back on Warner.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 26, 2020 04:59 PM (/+bwe)

8 Any word on what Grennel might be moving to next, since he's not going back to Germany?

Posted by: Inogame at May 26, 2020 04:59 PM (+2xjH)

9 Grenell is money.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 26, 2020 04:59 PM (CLteG)

10 Any word on where Ric Grenell goes from here? FBI oversight is where I'd send him.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 26, 2020 05:00 PM (JVgnl)

11 Heading in the right direction...

Posted by: Fortcoins at May 26, 2020 05:00 PM (1vIuC)

12 Ouch! Ouch! OUCH!

Posted by: Mark Warner's Butthole at May 26, 2020 05:00 PM (gd9RK)

13 I'm just gonna say what we're all thinking, "This Grenell character has well-creased pants."

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 26, 2020 05:00 PM (ExV1e)

14 Hopefully Trump has a bigger and better place for Grenell to be.

Posted by: jim at May 26, 2020 05:00 PM (DF+pC)

15 Well done, Mr. Grenell. Feel free to blast my former governor any time you want.

Posted by: bluebell at May 26, 2020 05:01 PM (/669Q)

16 He took Warner like a Viking.

Posted by: Dad of Six at May 26, 2020 05:01 PM (BFPZq)

17 It's. It's so beautiful.

*sniffles*

And I asked this earlier but isn't the guy who is now the DNI the one who everyone was freaking out about because he was going to go full otter on where the hell the money has gone?

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 05:01 PM (GbPPJ)

18 Grenell just pinned Warner and hung loogies over his face

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 26, 2020 05:01 PM (CLteG)

19 Grenell needs to be PDT's attack dog-at-large. Next stop FBI. A girl can dream.

Posted by: Tuna at May 26, 2020 05:01 PM (gLRfa)

20 15 Well done, Mr. Grenell. Feel free to blast my former governor any time you want.

Posted by: bluebell at May 26, 2020 05:01 PM (/669Q)

*snicker*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:01 PM (A5zUN)

21 Warner's dick OWNS Burr.

Posted by: Voter theater. at May 26, 2020 05:02 PM (hME8J)

22 Why does my *ss hurt now?

Posted by: Mark Warner at May 26, 2020 05:02 PM (WdocV)

23 DOJ closed its insider trading investigation against all of the senators EXCEPT Burr.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 26, 2020 05:02 PM (5iaho)

24 Um yeah, #2 was a roundhouse.

Posted by: WisRich at May 26, 2020 05:02 PM (G0vdT)

25 I hope Grenell put on golf shoes before he stomped his ass.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 26, 2020 05:02 PM (oVJmc)

26 I like Grenell, but I'd like him even better if he'd actually said "go fuck yourself" in his response.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 26, 2020 05:02 PM (k4dH2)

27 I click, same old post. I click again...new post with 18 comments.....I gotta get a new Internet.

Posted by: MrObvious at May 26, 2020 05:02 PM (5prN7)

28 Winning status:

[ ] Tired

[ X ] Not Tired!

Posted by: Just Lily at May 26, 2020 05:02 PM (yIlsy)

29 I do not care what he looks like or that he is a homosexual so doesn't swing this way... I want to marry Ric Grenell.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at May 26, 2020 05:02 PM (nAiE/)

30 Does this Grenell chap have a jib?

Posted by: klaftern at May 26, 2020 05:02 PM (RuIsu)

31 Burr swings alone; DOJ drops all but the investigation into his insider trading

Hehhehheh

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 26, 2020 05:02 PM (aO8Gd)

32 I got no problem with Grenell going to the fbi

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2020 05:02 PM (85Gof)

33 FABULOUS!!!!

Posted by: Dr. T at May 26, 2020 05:02 PM (Vgw1E)

34 The man is a honey badger. I hate to see him go, he was kicking ass & taking names. I saw that he was also leaving the ambassador post. Wonder what's next for him, head of FBI?!!!!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 26, 2020 05:03 PM (tUOCc)

35 Now putz questions.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2020 05:03 PM (85Gof)

36 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at May 26, 2020 05:03 PM (q2fym)

37 I imagine burr will resign and allow the Dem NC governor appoint his replacement.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 26, 2020 05:03 PM (5iaho)

38 So what is going on with Burr? I mean I believe he used his insider knowledge to make money....but so did the other 4.

And Burr is the ultimate GOPe/Deep State stooge.

Does the left just want to replace him with a Democrat and figures the Rs will still nominate him?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 26, 2020 05:03 PM (WdocV)

39
Incidentally, the Dilbert guy mentioned something about someone looking into the fake Russian election interference and concluded the Federal Govt has absolutely zero evidence of Russian interference.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at May 26, 2020 05:03 PM (bt0mc)

40
Grenell 2024.

On the Throne of Skulls Party ticket

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 26, 2020 05:03 PM (EGyGV)

41 Shame the VA GOP can't fight their way out of wet paper bag from their favorite dildo shop

Posted by: Jean at May 26, 2020 05:03 PM (0z9Jr)

42 dumb question from some short asshole

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2020 05:03 PM (85Gof)

43 26 I like Grenell, but I'd like him even better if he'd actually said "go fuck yourself" in his response.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 26, 2020 05:02 PM (k4dH2)
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That's about as close as you'll ever get.

Posted by: WisRich at May 26, 2020 05:04 PM (G0vdT)

44 Grenell and Flynn to start department of pay back

Posted by: Yo! at May 26, 2020 05:04 PM (q2fym)

45 15 Well done, Mr. Grenell. Feel free to blast my former governor any time you want.

Posted by: bluebell at May 26, 2020 05:01 PM (/669Q)

And of course by "blast," you mean....

Posted by: Dr. T at May 26, 2020 05:04 PM (Vgw1E)

46 Much like the Press, Congresscritters have yet to learn not to ask questions to which they really don't want an answer.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 26, 2020 05:04 PM (WEBkv)

47 >>I imagine burr will resign and allow the Dem NC governor appoint his replacement.

Which is fine because he will be replacing him with another Republican from a list provided to him by Republican political leaders in NC.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 26, 2020 05:04 PM (ZLI7S)

48 What's next for Grennel?
He seems awesome

Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 26, 2020 05:04 PM (G546f)

49 All these assholes care about is that dumb tweet

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2020 05:04 PM (85Gof)

50 Here's what the cuck like Burr and the Nevertrump don't understand-- the deep state doesn't protect you, it uses you

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 26, 2020 05:04 PM (aO8Gd)

51 Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 26, 2020 05:03 PM (EGyGV)

Pompeo for VP?

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 26, 2020 05:04 PM (n4CMO)

52 Note to Pete Butt Edge Edge - this is how you homosexual......

Posted by: CoolHandLuke at May 26, 2020 05:05 PM (U2+zT)

53
Hard to believe this guy is not Fiercely Heterosexual. Because he sure is Alpha.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at May 26, 2020 05:05 PM (BOQcs)

54 Burr not running for re-election. Only senator still under investigation for stock thinggy.

Grinnell not returning to Berlin.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2020 05:05 PM (El6T/)

55 Maybe Grenell can run against Warner. Arlington would be so confused.

Posted by: Jean at May 26, 2020 05:05 PM (0z9Jr)

56 Um yeah, #2 was a roundhouse.
Posted by: WisRich at May 26, 2020 05:02 PM (G0vdT)
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Leg sweep.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 26, 2020 05:06 PM (WEBkv)

57 Shame the VA GOP can't fight their way out of wet paper bag from their favorite dildo shop

Posted by: Jean at May 26, 2020 05:03 PM (0z9Jr)

Shame it is... the latest is deep state sell out Denver Riggleman is filing suit because his district chose a convention for nomination (and he is going to get his posterior handed to him by a conservative challenger). I will bet almost anything that the state party will try and help him win that lawsuit.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at May 26, 2020 05:06 PM (nAiE/)

58 Grennell is good. No question.

Posted by: runner at May 26, 2020 05:06 PM (zr5Kq)

59 Incidentally, the Dilbert guy mentioned something about someone looking
into the fake Russian election interference and concluded the Federal
Govt has absolutely zero evidence of Russian interference.
***

If I was Trump I would have ordered an investigation into Chinese, European Union, Mexican, etc interference the day the left started this Russia, Russia crap.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 26, 2020 05:06 PM (WdocV)

60 There's no getting back to a civil country after this coup and all its attending crap.

It's like when you hear this argument as a kid...

Mom: "I never should have married you! I should have killed you the first day you raped me!"

Dad: "Raping you was the only good sex I ever got from you! Strangling you was the only way I could enjoy sex with you! Now strangling myself is the only way!"

...You kind'a know that ordinary life is over. No trip to Disneyland this summer. In fact, no dinner tonight.

The rift in our country cannot be healed. Too much of our secret undercurrents have been exposed.

Posted by: RKae at May 26, 2020 05:06 PM (S7Z+l)

61 Grenell has declassified the documents, but will leave it to his successor as DNI, John Ratcliffe, to make the decision whether to release them.
++++++++++++++
Solid move. It's waiting for release and now Ratcliffe can get a shot out across the bow as his first act.

I hope.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 05:06 PM (hYcqw)

62 And GEOTUS is not done by a long stretch.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 26, 2020 05:06 PM (CLteG)

63 Mark Warner's spokesbitch, Richard Burr, was unavailable for comment.

That's gonna leave a great big tire mark.

OT, but Burr is the only Senator whose insider trading investigation was let open today, by the FBI. Everyone else got the all-clear signal.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 26, 2020 05:06 PM (NVYyb)

64 It would have been kinder to Burr and Warner if Grenell had merely shot them.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 26, 2020 05:06 PM (1t3jS)

65 Issue Grenell with an All Access Pass to dig into whatever the fuck he wants, regardless of "Department."

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2020 05:07 PM (QzJWU)

66 ''Note to Pete Butt Edge Edge - this is how you homosexual......''

Gee whatever happened to little Pete?

Posted by: Tuna at May 26, 2020 05:07 PM (gLRfa)

67 Saying this seriously--always an occupational hazard here---despite recently hiring Mark Meadows as Chief of Staff , It would be glorious to see Grenell work for PDT as COS.

Posted by: Voter theater. at May 26, 2020 05:07 PM (hME8J)

68 > Does this Grenell chap have a jib?

That's that thing you cut with right? Like a shiv or a shank? As in "I like the cut of your jib"?

Because he sure can cut a bitch.

(j/k I know what a jib is).

OT: besides trying to pull rank to jump the line for getting their boat in the water, it now appears that Gretchen "Mommie Dearest" Whitmer's husband broke quarantine and traveled to their vacation home to "rake leaves" for "one or two nights".

File under "Some animals are more equal than others".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 26, 2020 05:07 PM (hKLpI)

69 Grenell 2024!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 26, 2020 05:07 PM (I2/tG)

70 Warner: How come you released documents?

Grenell: FYNQ

Posted by: dantesed at May 26, 2020 05:07 PM (MH8rk)

71 Did Burr resign from the senate, or just resigned or was removed from heading the senate intelligence committee? I can't keep up with all these corrupt bastids.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 26, 2020 05:07 PM (T9Hmo)

72 I like this guy's spirit overall, but I take points away for not kicking Warner down a well.

Posted by: King Leonidas at May 26, 2020 05:07 PM (WdocV)

73 Let's hope that's "future Trump Attorney General Ric Grennell" or something.

Trump needs to find a place for this guy ASAP.

Posted by: ShainS at May 26, 2020 05:08 PM (f73eO)

74 52 Note to Pete Butt Edge Edge - this is how you homosexual......
Posted by: CoolHandLuke at May 26, 2020 05:05

*beer all over the monitor*

Posted by: Infidel at May 26, 2020 05:08 PM (sNpqr)

75 I'm predicting we will be underwhelmed by Ratcliffe.

Hope I'm wrong.

Hey look it's almost June.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 26, 2020 05:08 PM (1vb+E)

76 I'm predicting we will be underwhelmed by Ratcliffe.

Well kinda like stepping into Gherig's shoes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2020 05:09 PM (85Gof)

77 This Ric Grenell, he is badass, no?

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2020 05:09 PM (fCD2p)

78 Issue Grenell with an All Access Pass to dig into whatever the fuck he wants, regardless of "Department."

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at May 26, 2020 05:07 PM (QzJWU)
+++++++++++++++
I would love to see him in a "stalking killer without portfolio" role - the "have gun, will travel" man to kick up dust in the agencies.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 05:09 PM (hYcqw)

79 Fire Gina Haspel as Director of CIA and install Ric Grenell in her place.

Watch heads explode.

Posted by: Dansgirls at May 26, 2020 05:09 PM (V25ON)

80 Grenell 2024

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at May 26, 2020 05:09 PM (gaFth)

81 71 Did Burr resign from the senate, or just resigned or was removed from heading the senate intelligence committee? I can't keep up with all these corrupt bastids.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 26, 2020 05:07 PM (T9Hmo)
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Temporally stepped down of IC. Getting the feeling it might be permanent.

Posted by: WisRich at May 26, 2020 05:10 PM (G0vdT)

82 I'm predicting we will be underwhelmed by Ratcliffe.

***

I remember a bunch of GOPers opposing Ratcliffe because he was too extremely extreme or something in the past. So....I'm hopeful.

But between Grenell and Kayleigh McEnany Trump is finally finding people that will FIGHT. Its like Lincoln in '64. Or so I hope.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 26, 2020 05:10 PM (WdocV)

83
What Mom names her kid Dick Burr ???

Posted by: fixerupper at May 26, 2020 05:10 PM (nw6Hr)

84 PaleRider, Burr has stepped down as chairman of SSCI (Rubio replaced). Not from his seat. Though he will not be seeking re-election - previously announced, before all this.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2020 05:11 PM (El6T/)

85 But they put little Rubio in so we don't gain much

Posted by: Jean at May 26, 2020 05:11 PM (0z9Jr)

86 Warner and Burr are loathsome

Posted by: zeera Moron Author at May 26, 2020 05:11 PM (zUdXR)

87

I nominate Grenell for Trump's wartime consigliere

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 26, 2020 05:11 PM (YeeiP)

88 Trump needs to find a place for this guy ASAP.
Posted by: ShainS at May 26, 2020 05:08 PM (f73eO)

Special Prosecutor overseeing wrongdoing in the Intelligence Community. With the ability (like Judge Dredd) to try, convict and execute any individual he deems to be a lying sleazebag.

Posted by: jwest at May 26, 2020 05:11 PM (mrrpT)

89 I would not like to be the agency or department head who picks up his phone only to have his secretary announce ''Mr. Grenell here to see you''.

Posted by: Tuna at May 26, 2020 05:11 PM (gLRfa)

90 @81
It doens't matter if its permanent or temporary. Mario Rubio will be his puppet. The important thing is to replace McConnell

Posted by: artemis at May 26, 2020 05:11 PM (AwPyG)

91 Did Burr resign from the senate, or just resigned or was removed from heading the senate intelligence committee?

===============

None of the above. He remains in the Senate. He is "temporarily" relieved of his committee chairmanship. Rubio took the job but expressly said he expects to yield it back to Burr when the bad publicity from Burr's evident criminality dies back down.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 26, 2020 05:11 PM (NVYyb)

92 83
What Mom names her kid Dick Burr ???
Posted by: fixerupper at May 26, 2020 05:10 PM (nw6Hr)

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lolol

Posted by: SMH at May 26, 2020 05:12 PM (RU4sa)

93 What Mom names her kid Dick Burr ???

Posted by: fixerupper at May 26, 2020 05:10 PM (nw6Hr)

Mrs. Richard Head: No idea

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 26, 2020 05:12 PM (YeeiP)

94 > What Mom names her kid Dick Burr ???

A woman who got impregnated in a field full of cockleburrs, when they forgot to bring along a blanket?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 26, 2020 05:12 PM (hKLpI)

95 17 It's. It's so beautiful.

*sniffles*

And I asked this earlier but isn't the guy who is now the DNI the one who everyone was freaking out about because he was going to go full otter on where the hell the money has gone?

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 05:01 PM (GbPPJ)

Seems like Grenell was without the lube. So they are very happy if it winds up the new guy is willing to use lube.

Posted by: Olgierd von Everec at May 26, 2020 05:12 PM (Fs8A8)

96 So glad that slimeball Burr got kicked off the committee, but IIRC Chi Di also was involved in questionable trading.

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2020 05:12 PM (fCD2p)

97 All of a sudden I have this airy, spacious, wide-open feeling in my anal area...

Posted by: Mark Warner at May 26, 2020 05:12 PM (sWM8x)

98 Burr swings alone; DOJ drops all but the investigation into his insider trading

Isn't that because HIS insider trading was legal but his BIL?'s trades were not.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 26, 2020 05:12 PM (ExV1e)

99 I just leaked. A little. In my pants.

But that's all you get until I get perp walks, convictions or people eating a gun.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Free WA, Buy Ammo at May 26, 2020 05:12 PM (l4C/z)

100 I'm predicting we will be underwhelmed by Ratcliffe. ...
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 26, 2020 05:08 PM (1vb+E)
++++++++++++
Possible. The Senate was slow-walking Ratcliffe until Trump put Grenell in as interim. The moment Grenell started dropping bombs on them, they got Ratcliffe confirmed right quick.

This tells me that the establishment fears Ratcliffe less than they fear Grenell. That makes me unhappy. But they also hated Ratcliffe to begin with, and that gives me some cause for optimism.

Time, as always, will tell.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 05:12 PM (hYcqw)

101 Well kinda like stepping into Gherig's shoes
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2020 05:09 PM (85Gof)

Wouldn't it be great if Grennell was actually Wally Pipp?

Posted by: ... at May 26, 2020 05:12 PM (uEbPt)

102 You know Grenell has done a great job as Ambassador to Germany because people are yowling about how all the other ambassadors left with such respect from the Germans and how everyone hate Grenell.

Cry. Harder. Bitches.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 05:12 PM (GbPPJ)

103 Ric Grenell: Medal of Freedom. Please make this happen.

Posted by: EveR at May 26, 2020 05:13 PM (R0z7P)

104 Another asshole question

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2020 05:13 PM (85Gof)

105 Possible. The Senate was slow-walking Ratcliffe
until Trump put Grenell in as interim. The moment Grenell started
dropping bombs on them, they got Ratcliffe confirmed right quick.

This tells me that the establishment fears Ratcliffe less than they
fear Grenell. That makes me unhappy. But they also hated Ratcliffe to
begin with, and that gives me some cause for optimism.

Time, as always, will tell.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 05:12 PM (hYcqw)

The hate of Ratcliffe may have just been reflexive anti-Trumpism.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at May 26, 2020 05:13 PM (nAiE/)

106 Gee whatever happened to little Pete?

From 7x24 coverage to basically, nuttin'. Sometimes there is justice in the world.

Posted by: CoolHandLuke at May 26, 2020 05:14 PM (U2+zT)

107 Another asshole question
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2020 05:13 PM (85Gof)

----

Go ahead... ask away.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 26, 2020 05:14 PM (nw6Hr)

108 You know Grenell has done a great job as Ambassador to Germany because people are yowling about how all the other ambassadors left with such respect from the Germans and how everyone hate Grenell.

Cry. Harder. Bitches.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 05:12 PM (GbPPJ)
+++++++++++++
Ambassador's shouldn't necessary be hated by the countries to which they're assigned, but they needn't be loved. They work for the United States (ours do, anyway), not wherever they're assigned.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 05:14 PM (hYcqw)

109 I believe that Ratcliffe withdrew his original nomination by Trump because of the screaming from both Democrats and RINOS.

He barely was confirmed this round. And it's not because he's a Ashley Wilkes .

Posted by: Jen the original at May 26, 2020 05:14 PM (KQuKx)

110 Masked persons all over the Rose Garden.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/

Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:15 PM (IhjjI)

111
Okay, I'll take a chance:

Pence/Grenell '24
Grenell/Hawley '28

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 26, 2020 05:15 PM (s2VJv)

112 The whole band of thieves should have been canned day 1 of the DJT administration.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2020 05:15 PM (ZCEU2)

113 >>I'm predicting we will be underwhelmed by Ratcliffe.

Ratcliff has shown himself to be a ally of Trump's in Congress along with Nunes, Jordan, and Meadows. Grenell left him in a use it or lose it position with the declassifying as he walked out the door. Please show us you are worthy of our confidence in your new position, Ratcliff, and release what Grenell has just declassified. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2020 05:15 PM (bDqIh)

114 >>This tells me that the establishment fears Ratcliffe less than they fear Grenell. That makes me unhappy. But they also hated Ratcliffe to begin with, and that gives me some cause for optimism.

Maybe. Or maybe they just realized continuing to play games wasn't going to work in this case.

I don't know why anyone who has watched Ratcliffe in the House would think he is going to not do the job. He's a bright, tough former prosecutor who has seen everything Nunes has seen.

And as I've said before, Grenell might be leaving, Kash Patel is not.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 26, 2020 05:15 PM (ZLI7S)

115 "Let that be the choice of the congregation and the pastor."

https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/

Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:15 PM (IhjjI)

116 You know else tried to interfere in our elections? Uh huh, Him.

Literally.

In 1944, Ribbentrop led an effort to (somehow) unseat FDR in his bid for a 4th term. The effort was centered out of the German embassy in Buenos Aires. Included dissemination of "black propaganda" (false slanderous reports) in the press of neutral countries, to seed coverage in the US. Von Papen, German ambassador to Turkey, told his Japanese counterpart that preventing FDR's re-election was a German priority.

Ridiculous? Yes, of course. Embassy in Argentina was to assess situation inside US via travelers, and if that didn't provide enough good info, Berlin said they could insert their own agents directly. Uh, OK.

Anyway. Just a little perspective on the (always, obviously) ridiculous "election interference" nonsense, which recall most of the GOP pretended to worry about as well.

All courtesy of Magic, the Japanese diplomatic code we'd been reading since before Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2020 05:16 PM (El6T/)

117 > all the other ambassadors left with such respect from the Germans and how everyone hate Grenell.

Germany is now run by communists.

They're supposed to hate him.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 26, 2020 05:16 PM (hKLpI)

118 What has prodded Coulter into re emerging from her crypt? Is the lease payment due at the Hamptons rental?
Has ever a class of talking heads been so de pantsed as this bunch.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at May 26, 2020 05:16 PM (DZsvp)

119 Now, someone predicted today would be a big day in the counter-coup.

It's after 5 eastern, have I missed it?

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 26, 2020 05:17 PM (aO8Gd)

120 But between Grenell and Kayleigh McEnany Trump is finally finding people that will FIGHT. Its like Lincoln in '64. Or so I hope.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 26, 2020 05:10 PM (WdocV)

Trump finds people for particular times. It's been his hallmark since the campaign.

Posted by: ... at May 26, 2020 05:17 PM (uEbPt)

121 Ahaha. While being questioned about Murderin' Joe's intern death, by the media. Trump directs media to review the tapes where Murderin' Joe and Imus doing a radio gaggle musing on the death.

Posted by: Redenzo at May 26, 2020 05:17 PM (E7vND)

122 Who would be the consensus favorite and/or best choice to replace Cocaine Mitch?

Posted by: Fortcoins at May 26, 2020 05:17 PM (1vIuC)

123 "A lot of Democrats, for political reasons, don't want to open up their states."

PDT

Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:17 PM (IhjjI)

124 Grenell left him in a use it or lose it position with the declassifying as he walked out the door

I think he played that perfectly. Releasing them himself on his last day would be leaving a turd on Ratcliffe's porch.

But saying hey buddy there's nothing standing in your way now? Yeah. We'll learn a lot about Ratcliffe instantly.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2020 05:18 PM (gd9RK)

125 This tells me that the establishment fears Ratcliffe less than they fear
Grenell. That makes me unhappy. But they also hated Ratcliffe to begin
with, and that gives me some cause for optimism.

===========
They hate Ratcliffe. Recall the Senate forced PDJT to withdraw his initial nomination, back in August last year. But you are absolutely right; once Trump installed Grenell, they were suddenly very willing to accept anyone and everyone else. I think that tells you something about GOPe names being in danger of Grenell exposing them as part of the coup, but that's my completely unfounded speculation only.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 26, 2020 05:18 PM (NVYyb)

126 Grenell should have just released it. I just don't trust anyone in congress, or the FBI, CIA, DOJ, etc., etc., ...

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Unbanned Chapter at May 26, 2020 05:18 PM (vGJY7)

127 What has prodded Coulter into re emerging from her crypt? Is the lease payment due at the Hamptons rental?

*****

Coulter can go horsefuck, which would just mean fucking her own kind.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 at May 26, 2020 05:18 PM (+dsLj)

128 Some dumb karen reporter

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2020 05:19 PM (85Gof)

129 Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2020 05:15 PM (ZCEU2)

If only it was that easy

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 26, 2020 05:19 PM (n4CMO)

130 122 Who would be the consensus favorite and/or best choice to replace Cocaine Mitch?
Posted by: Fortcoins at May 26, 2020 05:17 PM (1vIuC)

Franklin Pierce

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2020 05:19 PM (UUUON)

131 The final paragraph of Grenell's missive to Warner was a polite FU too, called him out for not responding to requests for a meeting etc. Well done, Rick, can't wait to see your next act.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 26, 2020 05:19 PM (a4EWo)

132 Not sure of Ratcliffe. He looks like the kind of guy who can be persuaded. Like blackmailed. I hope he's either a straight arrow or just doesn't care.

Posted by: Matticus Finch at May 26, 2020 05:19 PM (mENHL)

133
a declassification that posed no conceivable riches to sources or methods

Risk?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2020 05:19 PM (aKsyK)

134 Warner is such a lame doofus politico - man, so sweet to watch Grenell just stick right up this useless tools ass...I mean, not in a homo way, even though one of them is, well...shit you guys get it.

Posted by: Boswell at May 26, 2020 05:19 PM (32YRo)

135 Pence/Grenell '24
Grenell/Hawley '28

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 26, 2020 05:15 PM (s2VJv)

I just... do not feel Pence. I want a firebreather.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:19 PM (A5zUN)

136 Why is some english fuck asking about mail in ballots...go back to limy land fag

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2020 05:19 PM (85Gof)

137 128 Some dumb karen reporter
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2020 05:19 PM (85Gof)

She should be fired for reason of annoying voice.

Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:20 PM (IhjjI)

138 Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at May 26, 2020 05:16 PM (DZsvp)

She thought she was more influential in crafting his policy than she thought. She's a weirdo.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 26, 2020 05:20 PM (n4CMO)

139 It would be epic if Ratcliffe, 5 minutes after being sign in, were to stroll to the microphones and announce be was ready to improve on 'the disappointing rate of Grennel's declassification work. Frankly, Im flabbergasted by the pace, and will move quicker. "

Posted by: 2009Refugee at May 26, 2020 05:20 PM (WvTEm)

140 They are asking the same question they asked McEnany.

Posted by: runner at May 26, 2020 05:20 PM (zr5Kq)

141 "When you do ALL-mail-in voting, you're asking for fraud."

PDT

Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:20 PM (IhjjI)

142 Their questions were answered. Hours ago.

Posted by: runner at May 26, 2020 05:20 PM (zr5Kq)

143 a declassification that posed no conceivable riches to sources or methods

Risk?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 26, 2020 05:19 PM (aKsyK)

Spaulding is difficult sometimes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:20 PM (A5zUN)

144 They are asking the same question they asked McEnany.
Posted by: runner at May 26, 2020 05:20 PM (zr5Kq)

They have little to none imagination...just left wing talking points

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2020 05:21 PM (85Gof)

145 Ric Grennel: This guy fucks!

Posted by: Liberty at May 26, 2020 05:21 PM (fX53c)

146 "Anybody that WALKS in California, they're giving a ballot."

PDT

Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:21 PM (IhjjI)

147 I just... do not feel Pence. I want a firebreather.

*************

Agreed, we need a rabid motherfucker to succeed Trump, and Pence does not strike me as one who motherfucks.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 at May 26, 2020 05:21 PM (+dsLj)

148 thathalfriacan I don't know it would be, Barak seems to have gotten away with it.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2020 05:21 PM (ZCEU2)

149 Grennell for special prosecutor for Comey/Brennan

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at May 26, 2020 05:21 PM (svbBD)

150 "Anybody in California that's walking or breathing."

PDT

Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:22 PM (IhjjI)

151 By the way, regarding Whitmer's BS that her husband was joking about getting their boat in he water sooner?

Republican member of Michigan House who had originally posted the story from Facebook was screamed at by Whitmer and Nessel( the AG) that the story wasn't true and he needed to remove his post.

Which he did, He is now pointing out that Whitmer lied about the story not being true and wants everyone to believe it's a joke.

Commenter on the Detroit News site said that Whitmer's daughter is getting married in two weeks up north, another reason she wants the area open.

Don't get me started on her new idiotic map of Michigan she is using that was developed by U of M school of public health and the MDDHS. It supposedly shows down to the county where in her stupid six phase plan your little village is and how it's behaving. Once you earn enough stars, mommy will let you have privileges.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 26, 2020 05:22 PM (KQuKx)

152 141 "When you do ALL-mail-in voting, you're asking for fraud."

PDT
Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:20 PM (IhjjI)

Asking/planning. Potatoe/Potahtoe.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:22 PM (A5zUN)

153 RoyalOil that was Papadoparopolapolos, who said today was going to be a Big Day. Meh.

Ratcliffe is solid. And Grennell has shown surprising savvy in both his postings. Not that he ever seemed to lack ability, but these were situations quite outside his previous experience.

Impossible to imagine Trump is done with Grennell. My usual sources have zero intel on what might be next.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2020 05:22 PM (El6T/)

154 I'm a Pence person.

Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:22 PM (IhjjI)

155 Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2020 05:21 PM (ZCEU2)

The swamp is as deep as it is wide my guy. The GOP as a whole was fine with Obama doing what he did.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 26, 2020 05:22 PM (n4CMO)

156 37 I imagine burr will resign and allow the Dem NC governor appoint his replacement.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 26, 2020 05:03 PM (5iaho)

Dem governor, but the NC legislature put up 3 names the Governor MUST choose from. NC legislature is Republican. It'll be another stinking RINO, that's assuming Burr resigns which is also not a guarantee.

Posted by: Inogame at May 26, 2020 05:22 PM (+2xjH)

157 Agreed, we need a rabid motherfucker to succeed Trump, and Pence does not strike me as one who motherfucks.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 at May 26, 2020 05:21 PM (+dsLj)

Four years is a long time.

Five months is a long time.

At the start of second week of March everyone was discussing how Biden had to drop out because he had no chance at the nomination and whether the stock market could hit 35,000.

We could also all go outside.

Just noting that.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 05:23 PM (GbPPJ)

158 Grenell is not going to Germany, right ?

Posted by: runner at May 26, 2020 05:23 PM (zr5Kq)

159 "I live in that very beautiful house over there that's painted white."

PDT

Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:23 PM (IhjjI)

160 Outta there.

Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:23 PM (IhjjI)

161 150 "Anybody in California that's walking or breathing."

PDT
Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:22 PM (IhjjI)
------------

He should mention inaccurate voter roles.

Posted by: WisRich at May 26, 2020 05:23 PM (G0vdT)

162 > I just... do not feel Pence. I want a firebreather.

*************

> Agreed, we need a rabid motherfucker to succeed Trump

Also agree. I like Pence personally, and agree with most of his positions, but he just does not have the GFY attitude that is necessary to deal with the communist fifth column.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 26, 2020 05:23 PM (hKLpI)

163 It supposedly shows down to the county where in her stupid six phase plan your little village is and how it's behaving. Once you earn enough stars, mommy will let you have privileges.
Posted by: Jen the original at May 26, 2020 05:22 PM (KQuKx)
-------------

I think Michiganders need to stock up on pitchforks.

Posted by: bluebell at May 26, 2020 05:23 PM (/669Q)

164 >>>What has prodded Coulter into re emerging from her crypt?
===========

Begrudgingly, she does make a good point about Sessions having tremendous courage in backing Trump early on, when literally all of establishment Washington was dead-set against him, and perhaps PDJT should let bygones be bygones. After all it was Trump who appointed that weasel Rosenstein, the shitheel directly responsible for appointing Mueller and his Angry Democrats. All Sessions did was hide under his desk, which (though bad) at least wasn't two-faced and evil. She also makes a good argument for not believing Tuberville will be loyal to PDJT (based on his personal history).

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 26, 2020 05:23 PM (NVYyb)

165 This guy is the new Roy cohn

Posted by: Regular joe at May 26, 2020 05:23 PM (L9P9s)

166 Agreed, we need a rabid motherfucker to succeed Trump, and Pence does not strike me as one who motherfucks.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 at May 26, 2020 05:21 PM (+dsLj)
+++++++++++
I do, too, but I could well be wrong. After eight years of Trump (if we get that lucky), people might be worn out of the constant combat. If Trump has managed to start putting things right, a nicer guy (in public anyway - still needs to be a monster behind the scenes) might be much more likely to be elected.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 05:23 PM (hYcqw)

167 122 Who would be the consensus favorite and/or best choice to replace Cocaine Mitch?
Posted by: Fortcoins at May 26, 2020 05:17 PM (1vIuC)

Franklin Pierce
Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2020 05:19 PM (UUUON)

Mike Pence.

DeSantis would make a fine VP.....with an eye on 2024.

Posted by: Voter theater. at May 26, 2020 05:23 PM (hME8J)

168 I hope we see Grenell again.

Posted by: t-bird at May 26, 2020 05:23 PM (ELgVT)

169 And as I've said before, Grenell might be leaving, Kash Patel is not.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 26, 2020 05:15 PM (ZLI7S)

This right here is a great point. Ric Grenell had the common sense and courage to recognize what a commodity Kash is - hopefully Ratcliff will let Kash be Kash, and continue to cleanse the ODNI of the past problems...

Posted by: Boswell at May 26, 2020 05:23 PM (32YRo)

170 The old PDT was back in good form, there. Perhaps he is laying off the Hydroxychloroquine (sp.).

Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:24 PM (IhjjI)

171 Pence chose Fauci to head the plandemic response. No more Pence holding responsible positions please.

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2020 05:24 PM (fCD2p)

172 "When you do ALL-mail-in voting, you're asking for fraud."

All mail-in voting is ripe for fraud. Putting it into the hands of unknown third parties, out of public view, where even the person who votes cannot be sure their vote was delivered as intended...

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 26, 2020 05:24 PM (oVJmc)

173 We could also all go outside.

Just noting that.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 05:23 PM (GbPPJ)

Are... Are you saying we should go outside and start a revolution to throw down our corrupt government?

Or am I just reading what I want to read?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:24 PM (A5zUN)

174 Didn't George P. have expectations about today?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 26, 2020 05:25 PM (oVJmc)

175 All I know is that Grenell was producing on day one, he was like a waiter taking orders...

Oh you've been asking for this bit of information for two years Representative? Well here you go.

Hey Judicial Watch, I see you've had this FOIA in the queue, for three years, well here it is with some extra napkins and Ice Tea refill.

Here you go Senator, the Disco Fries you ordered along with the list of unmaskers.

Ratcliffe has got some big shoes to fill and he better start showing production by Friday the latest.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 26, 2020 05:25 PM (1vb+E)

176 164 No Sessions deserves a full helping of hot tongue and cold sholder.

Posted by: Regular joe at May 26, 2020 05:25 PM (L9P9s)

177 155 sadly agree with that.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2020 05:25 PM (ZCEU2)

178 Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 26, 2020 05:23 PM (NVYyb)

I'll give her Sessions early on. As far as Trump appointing deep states, Rush brings up a good point; Trump thought they would all pull in one direction. Didn't happen. And Trump doesn't seem to take ahit lying down.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 26, 2020 05:26 PM (n4CMO)

179 Impossible to imagine Trump is done with Grennell. My usual sources have zero intel on what might be next.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2020 05:22 PM (El6T/)

rhomboid, I'm with you. I don't know what PDT and he have planned for the next move, but it will be yuge.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 26, 2020 05:26 PM (jK8Z7)

180 I do, too, but I could well be wrong. After eight years of Trump (if we get that lucky), people might be worn out of the constant combat. If Trump has managed to start putting things right, a nicer guy (in public anyway - still needs to be a monster behind the scenes) might be much more likely to be elected.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 05:23 PM (hYcqw)

'You'll be begging me to stop the winning!'

Spoiler: It would take a very specific set of circumstances for me to be tired.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:26 PM (A5zUN)

181 155 Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2020 05:21 PM (ZCEU2)

The swamp is as deep as it is wide my guy. The GOP as a whole was fine with Obama doing what he did.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 26, 2020 05:22 PM (n4CMO)

I hope you're wrong on this one. I hope they were ignorant.

Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:27 PM (IhjjI)

182 >>This right here is a great point. Ric Grenell had the common sense and courage to recognize what a commodity Kash is - hopefully Ratcliff will let Kash be Kash, and continue to cleanse the ODNI of the past problems...

Grenell is the guy who did the declassifications and released the documents but I bet it was Patel who knew what to look for and where to find it. And Ratcliffe knows what Patel knows.

Ratcliffe still has to walk the walk but I'll be surprised if he doesn't continue releasing documents.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 26, 2020 05:27 PM (ZLI7S)

183 We could also all go outside.

Just noting that.
Post

Yes, but...Outside is trying to kill us.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 26, 2020 05:27 PM (ejd/p)

184 Unfortunately McConnell allowed that backdoor $15/ hr to pass, so the unemployed will continue to stay home.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 26, 2020 05:27 PM (5iaho)

185 Fauci is an entrenched bureaucrat, not a clinician or a lab denizen. But leave it to Pence to stay in his Establishment Comfort Zone and appoint the asshoe who mismanaged the HIV-AIDS fiasco.

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2020 05:28 PM (fCD2p)

186 > Who would be the consensus favorite and/or best choice to replace Cocaine Mitch?

In terms of holding the line and doing the job?

Ted Cruz.

In terms of who will actually get the job, due to cronyism?

Probably Miss Lindsey Graham.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 26, 2020 05:28 PM (hKLpI)

187 Ratcliffe has got some big shoes to fill and he better start showing production by Friday the latest.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 26, 2020 05:25 PM (1vb+E)

That is a great parallel. It is like watching someone who really sucks at a job you are not too familiar with, so you think, damn it must be hard. Then someone who is actually 'good' at it comes in and they make it look like it is the easiest thing in the entire world.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:28 PM (A5zUN)

188 Jen every bit of that idiotic "plan" for MI has no basis in any science or public health knowledge, at all.

But that's also true of much of the CDC advice since at least late April.

There's an asymmetric bell curve you can find that describes almost all epidemics ever documented - including this one (the fit is exact). There's probably nothing one can do to change it, there's no evidence it was changed, anywhere (OK, if you shield the sick elderly, you'll lower the fatality rate, but that's about it).

The incompetence or dishonesty of the public health authorities at the federal and many state and local levels is breath-taking, even in 2020. As is the ignorance of the populace, to meekly go along with nonsensical guidance. I don't sense any accounting or even serious review, however, at any level, is in our future. Pretty bad.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2020 05:28 PM (El6T/)

189 173 We could also all go outside.

Just noting that.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 05:23 PM (GbPPJ)

Are... Are you saying we should go outside and start a revolution to throw down our corrupt government?

Or am I just reading what I want to read?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:24 PM (A5zUN)

Don't tease me.

I have plans tomorrow, but I'm free the rest of the week for work

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Free WA, Buy Ammo at May 26, 2020 05:28 PM (l4C/z)

190
Are... Are you saying we should go outside and start a revolution to throw down our corrupt government?

Or am I just reading what I want to read?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:24 PM (A5zUN)

Do you have any idea how angry I am that I have to defend going Outside?

Also, yes, you are reading into that.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 05:28 PM (GbPPJ)

191 186. my money would be on Thune.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at May 26, 2020 05:28 PM (svbBD)

192 But you are absolutely right; once Trump installed Grenell, they were suddenly very willing to accept anyone and everyone else.

This is why once RBG retires, ahem, Trump can go deep right because 5 to 3 and occasional 4 to 4 decisions are fine with me.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 26, 2020 05:28 PM (r+sAi)

193 I Still think that was a major reason to go after Flynn as being one who could fight the Deep Swamp on their terms.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2020 05:28 PM (ZCEU2)

194 And herein lies the reason that we will all vote for Trump in the fall, even though we can't stand his personality and he drives us nuts sometimes:

His go-to answer to the Left/DNC/MSM (BIRM), and that of his best appointees, is: "Fuck you; Next Question!"

Or FYNQ, for short.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 26, 2020 05:28 PM (BM2fS)

195 I like to think tgat Trump is using de classification as a hammer on Senators GOP and Dem. That they all are dirty is a given. Imagine the shit they have on Grahamnesty.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at May 26, 2020 05:28 PM (DZsvp)

196 I think Sessions has no chance. I'm voting for him anyway.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 26, 2020 05:29 PM (sWM8x)

197 Begrudgingly, she does make a good point about Sessions having tremendous courage in backing Trump early on

*******

Even if there's any fair points, I dont give two flaming fucks about that shit. Are the democrats no longer doing anything controversial that Coulter can expend so much time and focus attacking our side or Trump?

Trump is right about one thing, the democrats are always a united front no matter what. I wish we'd emulate that knowing we have common, greater enemies to fight.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 at May 26, 2020 05:29 PM (+dsLj)

198 113 >>I'm predicting we will be underwhelmed by Ratcliffe.

Ratcliff has shown himself to be a ally of Trump's in Congress along with Nunes, Jordan, and Meadows. Grenell left him in a use it or lose it position with the declassifying as he walked out the door. Please show us you are worthy of our confidence in your new position, Ratcliff, and release what Grenell has just declassified. . .
Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2020 05:15 PM (bDqIh)

I fully expect Ratcliffe to pass this test. If he does this, then releasing everything else as Grenell would have done (and which we expect Ratcliffe to do) will be a piece of cake.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 26, 2020 05:29 PM (iuFgi)

199 Grenell is the guy who did the declassifications and released the documents but I bet it was Patel who knew what to look for and where to find it. And Ratcliffe knows what Patel knows.

Ratcliffe still has to walk the walk but I'll be surprised if he doesn't continue releasing documents.

Posted by: JackStraw

I am reasonably certain that Dan Bongino is in the WH loop on all of this shit. He's known exactly what is up for almost 3 years.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 26, 2020 05:29 PM (BM2fS)

200 Spoiler: It would take a very specific set of circumstances for me to be tired.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:26 PM (A5zUN)
+++++++++++
You and me both. But in general, I could see how people might want a change away from full-time combat next time around. I would be happy with constant escalation until most of the government is a shelled ruin with the swamp finally drained.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 05:29 PM (hYcqw)

201 Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:27 PM (IhjjI)

Me too but the GOPs recent history and constant backstabbing says otherwise.

"We need the house to stop obama!"
Done.
"Well actually we need the Senate too!"
K. Done.
"Presidency to REALLY roll back his policies."
Here's Trump!
"Well we figured Jeb's the man to do it!"

Shampeachment and all thr bitch ass GOPers who participated in the farce.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 26, 2020 05:29 PM (n4CMO)

202 >>my money would be on Thune.

He's definitely one of the finalists.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 26, 2020 05:29 PM (ZLI7S)

203 Worried about Ratcliffe? Go back and watch his questioning of Taylor, Holmes and Vindman and Mueller.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2020 05:29 PM (rMtbr)

204 If nothing else its really nice outside

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2020 05:30 PM (ZCEU2)

205 Yes, but...Outside is trying to kill us.

Say, do you know where this diminutive alex person happens to reside?

Posted by: Murder Hornets at May 26, 2020 05:30 PM (gd9RK)

206 139 It would be epic if Ratcliffe, 5 minutes after being sign in, were to stroll to the microphones and announce be was ready to improve on 'the disappointing rate of Grennel's declassification work. Frankly, Im flabbergasted by the pace, and will move quicker. "
Posted by: 2009Refugee at May 26, 2020 05:20 PM (WvTEm)

What he should do is appoint Grennel a Deputy Director, specifically in charge of getting to the bottom of all this stuff.

Kind of like an inhouse special prosecutor.

That Wray, just last FRIDAY says he is NOW ordering the FBI to look into the Flynn stuff?

Shows we need a butt kicker in there.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 26, 2020 05:30 PM (NgKpN)

207 196 I think Sessions has no chance. I'm voting for him anyway.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 26, 2020 05:29 PM (sWM8x)

That will send a message. That's important, too.

Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:30 PM (IhjjI)

208 Can the insane leftists please tell me again how much President Trump hates gay people?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 26, 2020 05:30 PM (+eVzC)

209 The proof that Warner's complaint was not in good faith is indicated by Grenell's last quote:

"I gladly would have discussed this and other intelligence matters with you directly had you not chosen to cancel our planned call and then ignored subsequent requests by my office to reschedule"

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 26, 2020 05:31 PM (iuFgi)

210 Is Mitch stepping down, or are we just fantasizing?

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at May 26, 2020 05:31 PM (svbBD)

211 >>Grenell is the guy who did the declassifications and released the documents but I bet it was Patel who knew what to look for and where to find it. And Ratcliffe knows what Patel knows.

Grenell also re-organized the NSC after the guy before him greatly reduced its staff, right>

Grenell and Trump really leveraged his temporary role as DNI - he made a lot of major changes, taking the heat for it, allowing Ratcliffe to come in and get down to business.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2020 05:31 PM (bDqIh)

212 I want Ratcliffe to get to the bottom of the change in the whistleblower form to allow hearsay complaints, the ICIG's participation in drafting the complaint along with Schiff's staff and Ciaramella's attorney, and the ICIG's rejection of the DOJ's determination that because the White House was not part of the IC, he had no jurisdiction to handle the complaint about the phone call in the first place.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 26, 2020 05:31 PM (jK8Z7)

213 Ratcliffe still has to walk the walk but I'll be surprised if he doesn't continue releasing documents.

Really? Hope and pray you're right. I thought the same of Trey Gowdy.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Unbanned Chapter at May 26, 2020 05:31 PM (vGJY7)

214 191
186. my money would be on Thune.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at May 26, 2020 05:28 PM (svbBD)

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Oh lord, I sure as hell hope not. He's another GOPe.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 26, 2020 05:31 PM (NVYyb)

215 Ratcliffe still has to walk the walk but I'll be surprised if he doesn't continue releasing documents.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 26, 2020 05:27 PM (ZLI7S)

There was a reason why Grenell was suddenly so up to speed on the issues and needs for declassification...and I think that reason was Kash Patel. Still, you have to have the courage and wisdom to use it in the right setting to advance the ball, and Grenell had that in spades...also, his responses to these empty suited Senators has been pitch perfect. I don't think Ratcliff will be as "pointed" as Ric, but I hope he still knows what to do and when to do it.

Posted by: Boswell at May 26, 2020 05:31 PM (32YRo)

216 208 Can the insane leftists please tell me again how much President Trump hates gay people?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 26, 2020 05:30 PM (+eVzC)

Grenell is just an Uncle... I have no idea what the corresponding term is for a Gay Person who does not think the right way.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:31 PM (A5zUN)

217 I do, too, but I could well be wrong. After eight years of Trump (if we get that lucky), people might be worn out of the constant combat. If Trump has managed to start putting things right, a nicer guy (in public anyway - still needs to be a monster behind the scenes) might be much more likely to be elected.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 05:23 PM (hYcqw)

I will never be tired of trump or those following him, stomping their priggish faces into a chunky paste like substance.

Posted by: Abiss at May 26, 2020 05:31 PM (6JCD6)

218 Say, do you know where this diminutive alex person happens to reside?
Posted by: Murder Hornets at May 26, 2020 05:30 PM

Follow us.

Posted by: The Flamethrower Squirrels at May 26, 2020 05:32 PM (ejd/p)

219 I do, too, but I could well be wrong. After eight years of Trump (if we get that lucky), people might be worn out of the constant combat
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A fight that ends because one side stops is called a surrender. Republicans aren't nominating anyone who doesn't fight. Trump was the lesson.

Posted by: ... at May 26, 2020 05:32 PM (uEbPt)

220 Right, Grennell not going back to Berlin.

And it was indeed George P. who said today would be Yuuuge. Meh. Or sub-meh.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2020 05:32 PM (El6T/)

221 205 Yes, but...Outside is trying to kill us.

Posted by: Murder Hornets at May 26, 2020 05:30 PM (gd9RK)

We've always been at war with Outside.

Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:32 PM (IhjjI)

222 >>I am reasonably certain that Dan Bongino is in the WH loop on all of this shit. He's known exactly what is up for almost 3 years.

Honestly, he gets a lot of stuff from twitter sleuths. He's very careful to credit them with doing the research.

That's the most frustrating thing about this whole scam. The information is out there if you are willing to dig but 99% of the media can't be bothered or is purposefully ignoring the facts.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 26, 2020 05:32 PM (ZLI7S)

223 This Ric Grenell, he is badass, no?
Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2020 05:09 PM (fCD2p)
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Who would have figured that a gay Republican would be the biggest badass in Trump's administration.
We need this man.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 26, 2020 05:32 PM (wiXsO)

224 > my money would be on Thune.

Maybe. He's only 24th in seniority, though (14th among Republicans).

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 26, 2020 05:32 PM (hKLpI)

225 212 I want Ratcliffe to get to the bottom of the change in the whistleblower form to allow hearsay complaints, the ICIG's participation in drafting the complaint along with Schiff's staff and Ciaramella's attorney, and the ICIG's rejection of the DOJ's determination that because the White House was not part of the IC, he had no jurisdiction to handle the complaint about the phone call in the first place.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 26, 2020 05:31 PM (jK8Z7)

I think they know.

Didn't they just fire that IC IG?

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 26, 2020 05:32 PM (NgKpN)

226 209 The proof that Warner's complaint was not in good faith is indicated by Grenell's last quote:

"I gladly would have discussed this and other intelligence matters with you directly had you not chosen to cancel our planned call and then ignored subsequent requests by my office to reschedule"
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 26, 2020 05:31 PM (iuFgi)

Aka 'Would you like some Preparation H?'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:32 PM (A5zUN)

227 208 Can the insane leftists please tell me again how much President Trump hates gay people?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 26, 2020 05:30 PM (+eVzC)

I'm sure they will.

Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:33 PM (IhjjI)

228 Grenell is just an Uncle... I have no idea what the corresponding term is for a Gay Person who does not think the right way.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:31 PM (A5zUN)

Self-hating fag.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 05:33 PM (GbPPJ)

229 Worried about Ratcliffe? Go back and watch his questioning of Taylor, Holmes and Vindman and Mueller.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2020 05:29 PM (rMtbr)

He seems strong to me too.

Posted by: LASue at May 26, 2020 05:33 PM (Ed8Zd)

230 221 205 Yes, but...Outside is trying to kill us.

Posted by: Murder Hornets at May 26, 2020 05:30 PM (gd9RK)

We've always been at war with Outside.
Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:32 PM (IhjjI)

Mother Earth is a mass murderer. Killed more people than Humans have.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 26, 2020 05:33 PM (NgKpN)

231 @203

Hey, I can show you some masterful questioning by Chaffetz, Gowdy and a number of others.

Anybody can strut around, peep and crow, but can you produce something of tangible value.

Grenell in a handful of weeks shed more lite on the Russia hoax than could have been imagined.

Let's see if Ratcliffe has the minerals, I suspect he doesn't, I hope I'm wrong.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 26, 2020 05:33 PM (1vb+E)

232 Honestly, he gets a lot of stuff from twitter sleuths. He's very careful to credit them with doing the research.

That's the most frustrating thing about this whole scam. The information is out there if you are willing to dig but 99% of the media can't be bothered or is purposefully ignoring the facts.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 26, 2020 05:32 PM (ZLI7S)
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Yep Techno Fog UndercoverHuber & a bunch of Twatter accounts & Yes GASP !!!!!!!!! Q Fans

Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at May 26, 2020 05:34 PM (j7aNt)

233 Self-hating fag.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 05:33 PM (GbPPJ)

Ah. Assholes have such a way with words.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:34 PM (A5zUN)

234 Its inside that is trying to kill you
Heard they want a mass of people at a lake past weekend to all quarantine themselves.
Outside, in fresh air and sun shine.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2020 05:34 PM (ZCEU2)

235 Caesar, you're talking as if you live in a country where the most powerful/highest prestige institutions retain integrity, not just on paper but in the mindset of the people populating them. More than ever, I now wonder about that.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2020 05:35 PM (El6T/)

236 Grenell strikes me as the real life version of Winston Wolf.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 at May 26, 2020 05:35 PM (+dsLj)

237 Stop with The Sessions bullshit. If you consuder the DS planning enough forwardly to send in someone to the Trump campaign, who would be better than a Senator from AL? Explain to me how Sessions behaved any differently than a DS mole. Either way he has to go and stay gone.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at May 26, 2020 05:35 PM (DZsvp)

238 Self-hating fag.

Sarc, right? Cuz the term refers to people who have not come to terms with their own homosexuality and thus protest too much.

We have one around here.

Posted by: Murder Hornets at May 26, 2020 05:35 PM (gd9RK)

239 "Grenell has declassified the documents, but will leave it to his successor as DNI, John Ratcliffe, to make the decision whether to release them."

Why?

Smells like more Failure Theater under the guise of "professional courtesy".

Posted by: Fen at May 26, 2020 05:36 PM (TNHVJ)

240 I do like the cut of this man's jib.

Trump must find a job for him.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 26, 2020 05:36 PM (+b1ew)

241 Heard they want a mass of people at a lake past weekend to all quarantine themselves.

Outside, in fresh air and sun shine.
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Are you talking about the Karenwaffe's reaction to the Lake Of The Ozarks party? Looked pretty outstanding to me.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 26, 2020 05:36 PM (NVYyb)

242 Grenell is just an Uncle... I have no idea what the corresponding term is for a Gay Person who does not think the right way.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:31 PM (A5zUN)

Self-hating fag.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020

*
*

An Uncle Oscar Wilde?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 26, 2020 05:36 PM (rpbg1)

243 Mother Earth is a mass murderer. Killed more people than Humans have.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 26, 2020 05:33 PM (NgKpN)

Hmmm, I wonder if you could actually work it out? Just an estimate?

People die much more infrequently to natural disasters than they did- but population is also much much higher.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:36 PM (A5zUN)

244 237 Stop with The Sessions bullshit.
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He was an excellent Senator. He would be again if given the opportunity.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 26, 2020 05:36 PM (sWM8x)

245 176 164 No Sessions deserves a full helping of hot tongue and cold sholder.
Posted by: Regular joe at May 26, 2020 05:25 PM (L9P9s)

If I recall, Mitt Romney made all the right noises ahead of his election to the Senate. He then used Trump's past slights of him as an excuse to ultimately vote for impeachment on one count.

Even if I gave Sessions the benefit of the doubt with his reasons for recusing himself, I think he ended up being a big zero on everything else that was on his plate as AG. If he made any movement toward cleaning the Augean stables that are the AG department, I would say that he should get Trump's endorsement, but seeing that he didn't do much other than make some speeches after recusal - no way.

I'd take my chances with Tuberville. Sessions showed what he was made of when he got the job he said he always wanted.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 26, 2020 05:37 PM (iuFgi)

246 102 You know Grenell has done a great job as Ambassador to Germany because people are yowling about how all the other ambassadors left with such respect from the Germans and how everyone hate Grenell.

==

Aha! Germany is homophobic!

Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 26, 2020 05:37 PM (G546f)

247 Let's see if Ratcliffe has the minerals, I suspect he doesn't, I hope I'm wrong.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 26, 2020 05:33 PM (1vb+E)
******
So the guy who hired Grennell & Kayleigh McEnany just swung & missed right?

Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at May 26, 2020 05:37 PM (j7aNt)

248 That's the most frustrating thing about this whole scam. The information is out there if you are willing to dig but 99% of the media can't be bothered or is purposefully ignoring the facts.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 26, 2020 05:32 PM (ZLI7S)
++++++++++++
It's the second one.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 05:37 PM (hYcqw)

249 Who would be the consensus favorite and/or best choice to replace Cocaine Mitch?

***

Josh Hawley, John Kennedy, Marsha Blackburn

Posted by: 18-1 at May 26, 2020 05:37 PM (WdocV)

250 Grenell is just an Uncle... I have no idea what the corresponding term is for a Gay Person who does not think the right way.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:31 PM (A5zUN)

Self-hating fag.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020

*
*

An Uncle Stuart or Uncle Freddie (check out the TV series Vicious with Derek Jacobi and Ian McKellen)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 26, 2020 05:37 PM (rpbg1)

251 239 "Grenell has declassified the documents, but will leave it to his successor as DNI, John Ratcliffe, to make the decision whether to release them."

Why?

Smells like more Failure Theater under the guise of "professional courtesy".

Posted by: Fen at May 26, 2020 05:36 PM (TNHVJ)

But by publicly announcing it, we will soon know who Ratcliff really is.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 26, 2020 05:37 PM (NgKpN)

252 my money would be on Thune.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at May 26, 2020 05:28 PM (svbBD)

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Oh lord, I sure as hell hope not. He's another GOPe.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 26, 2020 05:31 PM (NVYyb)

If Thune went on ancestry.com he'd surely discover some Bush DNA. He might be dumber than Yeb.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 26, 2020 05:37 PM (y7DUB)

253 No Sessions deserves a full helping of hot tongue and cold sholder.
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Not one fact that has come out since he recused himself has justified that decision.

The real reason?

He couldn't stand the heat, he chose to save himself rather than Trump

Remember: He didn't warn Trump of what he was going to do and, as more and more facts came out showing the basis of his recusal was BS, he put Trump in the no-win situation of offering to resign-- instead of taking the heat himself and reversing his recusal.

He's lying if he says he didn't know of the house testimony that no one saw any proof of collusion, that there was no proof of Russia hacking.
He's lying because that lie is all he has left to hide behind.

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 26, 2020 05:38 PM (aO8Gd)

254 239 "Grenell has declassified the documents, but will leave it to his successor as DNI, John Ratcliffe, to make the decision whether to release them."

Why?

Smells like more Failure Theater under the guise of "professional courtesy".

Posted by: Fen at May 26, 2020 05:36 PM (TNHVJ)
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Maybe a test by PDT to see if Ratcliff is the guy he needs.

Posted by: WisRich at May 26, 2020 05:38 PM (G0vdT)

255 Self-hating fag.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 05:33 PM (GbPPJ)
+++++++++++
:: Checks academic literature ::
:: Finds no exact term ::
:: Searches for near terms ::

Result: "internalized homophobia."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 05:38 PM (hYcqw)

256 Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 26, 2020 05:36 PM (sWM8x)
*******
Cognitive Dissonance is a terrible condition

Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at May 26, 2020 05:38 PM (j7aNt)

257 I'm a Pence person.
Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:22 PM (IhjjI)

Pence was my governor. He was a conciliatory executive and avoided conflict at every opportunity, always the gentleman, always looking for the middle way. The Indiana Left knew this about him and exploited it to advantage whenever they could. Maybe he's different now, become harder. Maybe he's changed. We'll see what we'll see with Pence in a few years, assuming the President wins reelection, God willing.

Posted by: troyriser at May 26, 2020 05:38 PM (pr6Sg)

258 Whoa, Tavares is on Hannity. And Hannity got him a job as a trucker. Wut.

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2020 05:38 PM (fCD2p)

259 241 Yes

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2020 05:38 PM (ZCEU2)

260 Who would be the consensus favorite and/or best choice to replace Cocaine Mitch?

Inanimate Carbon Rod.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - Have you reported in to your assigned Contact Tracer today? at May 26, 2020 05:38 PM (luzVb)

261 But by publicly announcing it, we will soon know who Ratcliff really is.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 26, 2020 05:37 PM (NgKpN)
++++++++++++
That's my take on it. "I did the hard part. You do the easy part and we'll know right away how this is going to work out."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 05:39 PM (hYcqw)

262 Grenell is just an Uncle

*****

He's an Uncle Bad Ass Motherfucker

Posted by: Jules Winnfield at May 26, 2020 05:39 PM (+dsLj)

263 Maybe he's different now, become harder. Maybe he's changed. We'll see what we'll see with Pence in a few years, assuming the President wins reelection, God willing.
Posted by: troyriser at May 26, 2020 05:38 PM (pr6Sg)

I don't think people change like that.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:39 PM (A5zUN)

264 Maybe a test by PDT to see if Ratcliff is the guy he needs.

We will all get an immediate report card on Ratcliffe. This is good.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2020 05:39 PM (gd9RK)

265 People die much more infrequently to natural disasters than they did- but population is also much much higher.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:36 PM (A5zUN)

Disease falls into the Nature category.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 26, 2020 05:39 PM (NgKpN)

266 Sarc, right? Cuz the term refers to people who have not come to terms with their own homosexuality and thus protest too much.

We have one around here.
Posted by: Murder Hornets at May 26, 2020 05:35 PM (gd9RK)

Nope, as you know because you've heard the stories about the times it's been said to my face.

It's either self-hating fag or not actually gay. I mean, it's all so wildly boring.

Anyone, and I mean anyone, be they on the Right, the Left, or in the Center, who believes that sexuality comes with a non-optional set of political beliefs needs to have better sex. And I feel sorry for all of those people's sexual partners, even if the only person they are having sex with is themselves.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 05:39 PM (GbPPJ)

267 Cognitive Dissonance is a terrible condition
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I wouldn't know.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 26, 2020 05:40 PM (sWM8x)

268 Ratcliffe seems pretty darn good, but I have been fooled before. I'll cheer him when he does right, otherwise he gets the finger.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 26, 2020 05:40 PM (r+sAi)

269 Dear President Trump:
Jettison Ratcliff replace him with Grenell.

Thanks Archer

Posted by: Archer at May 26, 2020 05:40 PM (gmo/4)

270 OT: a nice graphic showing where how the COVID deaths are distributed

https://bit.ly/2zw3ciA

Posted by: t-bird at May 26, 2020 05:40 PM (ELgVT)

271 Who would be the consensus favorite and/or best choice to replace Cocaine Mitch?

*****

I'm tanned rest and ready to do more than Mitch ever did!

Posted by: A Broken Stapler at May 26, 2020 05:40 PM (+dsLj)

272 Grenell might be even more valuable at CIA, where the Brennan praetorian guard probably still festers and awaits their chance to return in glory once Trump is gone. Haspel was a Brennan favorite, which has always made me nervous. To satisfy her supporters, maybe give Haspel the FBI and see if she can rise to the challenge.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 26, 2020 05:40 PM (NVYyb)

273 Honestly, he gets a lot of stuff from twitter sleuths. He's very careful to credit them with doing the research.

That's the most frustrating thing about this whole scam. The information is out there if you are willing to dig but 99% of the media can't be bothered or is purposefully ignoring the facts.

Posted by: JackStraw

True, but he also wrote two books on this topic long before most of the Twitter Sleuths started popping up.

He had the basic story plus a ton of Ukraine detail before anyone else did.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 26, 2020 05:40 PM (BM2fS)

274 Isn't Tavares too old to get a job now? And what happened to all that sweet, sweet disco cash?

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2020 05:41 PM (fCD2p)

275 "This tells me that the establishment fears Ratcliffe less than they fear Grenell. That makes me unhappy. But they also hated Ratcliffe to begin with, and that gives me some cause for optimism."

Trump had them in an either/or:

Either vote for Ratcliffe, or get another year of an untethered Grenell. Congress caved only because they KNEW Grenell was not going to play around.

Classic squeeze play.

Posted by: Dansgirls at May 26, 2020 05:41 PM (V25ON)

276 And....just like that my 4 day weekend is gone.

I have no idea where it went.

Posted by: jsg at May 26, 2020 05:41 PM (wLch8)

277 Grenell's Roman name was Biggus Dickus.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2020 05:41 PM (Kpl3J)

278 The incompetence or dishonesty of the public health authorities at the federal and many state and local levels is breath-taking, even in 2020. As is the ignorance of the populace, to meekly go along with nonsensical guidance. I don't sense any accounting or even serious review, however, at any level, is in our future. Pretty bad.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2020 05:28 PM (El6T/)

Agree about the incompetency. As far as going along, I think it came more for not knowing anything more than the experts did. What is different about the general population though is that once it became apparent that this virus is not the deadly 50% mortality virus was made out to be, the public doesn't have their self worth invested in that like the public health people do.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 26, 2020 05:41 PM (KQuKx)

279 "Go back and watch his questioning of Taylor, Holmes and Vindman and Mueller."

Just like Trey Gowdy and Lindsey Graham. And they were all hat and no cattle.

I want to see results, not theatrics.

That may seem unreasonable, but we've been conned at this game way too many times.

Posted by: Fen at May 26, 2020 05:41 PM (TNHVJ)

280 >>Result: "internalized homophobia."

I believe the default is "Nazi" or "white nationalist" - those seem to be the catch-all nowadays for the people they hate, even when it's someone in a demographic that was excluded, if not actively hated by real Nazis.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2020 05:41 PM (bDqIh)

281 Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 26, 2020 05:40 PM (sWM8x)
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NOT YOU

Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at May 26, 2020 05:42 PM (j7aNt)

282 I do hope Richard Grenell gets another job cleaning out more stuff in the government.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 26, 2020 05:42 PM (+eVzC)

283 Pence's ability to stay out of the limelight is one of his big plusses, to me. Look at Dominic Cummings, the guy who's distracting the world from Boris Johnson's policies right now; Pence is constitutionally incapable of doing that.

Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:42 PM (IhjjI)

284 Mr. Bender, Chaffetz, Gowdy, and Issa remained Congressmen, with limited power.

Ratcliffe has been moved to a position that has infinitely more power and has a much expanded base of knowledge.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2020 05:42 PM (rMtbr)

285 For you guys into GAINZ:
https://tinyurl.com/y8uyk6uy
We may never see another post from some of us.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 26, 2020 05:42 PM (pw+jk)

286 When asked about Ric Grinnell, Joe Biden said, "If you work for Trump, you ain't really gay."

Posted by: abbynormal at May 26, 2020 05:42 PM (I849g)

287 Disease falls into the Nature category.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 26, 2020 05:39 PM (NgKpN)

Granted, and that is always going to be the kicker.

Still, if you could take out disease, I would say the Commies of the 20th century did a damn fine job of evening the score.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:42 PM (A5zUN)

288 Posted by: RoyalOil at May 26, 2020 05:38 PM (aO8Gd)

IMO Sessions spent too long in the Senate. Senate is all about comity. Reaching across the isle, and looking good to your MSM friends.

He made that decision like a Legislator, not a kick ass Attorney General.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 26, 2020 05:43 PM (NgKpN)

289 Posted by: Fen at May 26, 2020 05:41 PM (TNHVJ)
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How many times do you people have to be told Congress critters can do anything criminally

Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at May 26, 2020 05:43 PM (j7aNt)

290 How long until Richard Grenell is called a homophobe?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 26, 2020 05:44 PM (pw+jk)

291 286 When asked about Ric Grinnell, Joe Biden said, "If you work for Trump, you ain't really gay."
Posted by: abbynormal at May 26, 2020 05:42 PM (I849g)

Ha!

Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:44 PM (IhjjI)

292 I do hope Richard Grenell gets another job cleaning out more stuff in the government.

***********

You ask for what needs a cleanup, I give you the

F

B

I

Posted by: Hans Gruber at May 26, 2020 05:44 PM (+dsLj)

293 I believe the default is "Nazi" or "white nationalist"
***
Yep.
In the real world NAZIs socialized the economy, opposed free speech, gun rights, etc.

And basically "white nationalism" now is any belief commonly held by Americans before 2008 - not believing that their should be a white homeland which is of course the actual meaning of the term.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 26, 2020 05:44 PM (WdocV)

294 Anybody walking in California??? HA! Only a nobody walks in LA.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at May 26, 2020 05:44 PM (99Nt9)

295 Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 05:39 PM (GbPPJ)

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Seriously, that poster was talking about you, Empress? Because who the hell is he to be insulting? Your response was remarkably gracious if that was directed your way. Anyway, back to our regularly scheduled political ranting..

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 26, 2020 05:44 PM (NVYyb)

296 >>He had the basic story plus a ton of Ukraine detail before anyone else did.

Well, not everyone.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 26, 2020 05:44 PM (ZLI7S)

297 We don't have Director of Homeland Security, btw. Only acting at the moment.

Posted by: runner at May 26, 2020 05:44 PM (zr5Kq)

298 Ric Grennell very likely has just done the most courageous and quintessentially American thing done in many, many years. His posting as acting DNI might have been one of expediency, or any number of other lesser reasons, but it will be, if Ratcliffe has any balls at all, the turning of the screw for the deep staters that hide behind "sources and methods" to mask their self enrichment schemes. Good on you, Ric Grennell. Mark Warner et al are crapping their made-in-China underoos.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at May 26, 2020 05:44 PM (mIJ9W)

299 Ha!
Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:44 PM (IhjjI)

Is it wrong that I read all your comments as Peter Lorre?

Probably disrespectful.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:45 PM (A5zUN)

300 287 Disease falls into the Nature category.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 26, 2020 05:39 PM (NgKpN)

Granted, and that is always going to be the kicker.

Still, if you could take out disease, I would say the Commies of the 20th century did a damn fine job of evening the score.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:42 PM (A5zUN)

Then add back in what may be the 2nd most cause of death in the US?

Medical mistakes?

Yup, could be argued either way.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 26, 2020 05:45 PM (NgKpN)

301 294 Anybody walking in California??? HA! Only a nobody walks in LA.
Posted by: Russkilitlover at May 26, 2020 05:44 PM (99Nt9)

Good point. But on second mention, PDT added "breathing": walking or breathing.

Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:45 PM (IhjjI)

302 'Hold back the night, turn off the light, don't wanna dream about ya baby'...I think only JJ Sefton knows what I'm talking about. Or maybe Guy Smiley.

Posted by: kallisto at May 26, 2020 05:45 PM (fCD2p)

303 I like Pence a lot, but as we've discussed before, I get no sense that he wants to go on after he terms out of the VP's office. My guess is at that point he drops out of politics and goes back to a very nice, cushy job as Indiana State University President, or something on that level.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2020 05:46 PM (Kpl3J)

304 I'd love to see Grennell go to FBI. Heads would explode.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 26, 2020 05:46 PM (sWM8x)

305 Anybody walking in California??? HA! Only a nobody walks in LA.

*********

I thought the real walking was done in Memphis?

Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 at May 26, 2020 05:46 PM (+dsLj)

306 Then add back in what may be the 2nd most cause of death in the US?

Medical mistakes?

Yup, could be argued either way.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 26, 2020 05:45 PM (NgKpN)

Definitely could be said that Man is just acting according to his Nature. Still I would put that in the Man Made column.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:47 PM (A5zUN)

307 Grennel 2024

Posted by: Venus at May 26, 2020 05:47 PM (iYXhj)

308 Walked into the local hardware store today and the girl at the counter wasn't wearing a mask, either.

It's happening.

Posted by: jsg at May 26, 2020 05:47 PM (wLch8)

309 301 294 Anybody walking in California??? HA! Only a nobody walks in LA.
Posted by: Russkilitlover at May 26, 2020 05:44 PM (99Nt9)

Good point. But on second mention, PDT added "breathing": walking or breathing.
Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:45 PM (IhjjI

My Father has been gone for 14 years now.

It will be interesting to see if we get a ballot for him.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 26, 2020 05:47 PM (NgKpN)

310 OMFG

https://twitter.com/EddieZipperer/status/1265374806662397953

For those who cannot see - MSNBC was doing a person on the street Karening about people not wearing masks.

"As you can see people are not wearing your masks"

And someone in the background yells INCLUDING THE CAMERAMAN

FATALITY! FLAWLESS VICTORY!

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 05:47 PM (GbPPJ)

311 What Warner is doing is SPECIFICALLY prohibited in the instructions on classifying/declassifying information.

Throw his rosy red into the clink!

Posted by: Mattski at May 26, 2020 05:47 PM (0ap/y)

312 I'd love to see Grennell go to FBI. Heads would explode.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 26, 2020 05:46 PM (sWM8x)
++++++++++++++
I'm thinking bigger. No formal position. Just a stalking horse with a wide mandate across organizations. Make every high-level bureaucrat in the government shit his pants when Grenell comes to the door.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 05:47 PM (hYcqw)

313 299 Ha!
Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:44 PM (IhjjI)

Is it wrong that I read all your comments as Peter Lorre?

Probably disrespectful.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:45 PM (A5zUN)

I think that's hilarious!
It would be "peter lorre."

Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:48 PM (IhjjI)

314 I find it puzzling that your letter initially complains about the
declassification of the indemnities of unmaskers, a declassification
that posed no conceivable riches to sources or methodsindemnities=identities and riches=risks? or what are they really talking aboutOtherwise, I wish him luck with this long-overdue cleaning.

Posted by: PG at May 26, 2020 05:48 PM (iqCkn)

315 Trey Gowdy really likes Johnny. That's a strike. What's Nunez think?

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at May 26, 2020 05:48 PM (DZsvp)

316 Oh heads are gonna roll. Most definitely. Fer sure.

Posted by: freaked at May 26, 2020 05:48 PM (Tnijr)

317 Seriously, that poster was talking about you, Empress? Because who the hell is he to be insulting? "

My guess is that was one of our "old friends" who keeps showing up with different nicks and different hashes, just to try and stir shit if he can.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2020 05:49 PM (Kpl3J)

318 >>And basically "white nationalism" now is any belief commonly held by Americans before 2008 - not believing that their should be a white homeland which is of course the actual meaning of the term.

Yup, anyone who believe western civilization is superior, not something to redefine and apologize for.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 26, 2020 05:49 PM (bDqIh)

319 FATALITY! FLAWLESS VICTORY!
---
"Striking images..."

LOL

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 26, 2020 05:49 PM (sWM8x)

320 Isn't the white homeland Iceland?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:49 PM (A5zUN)

321 Homeland Security has been my and many I know sort of best quick idea for Grennellization. With Cuccinelli as deputy there'd be a strong management team. DHS isn't really as bad as many other places, if you're talking about overall commitment to the mission, at least WRT the important area - immigration. Current acting has done a good job of imitating the right mindset - who knows, he might have even learned something and changed - but nah, no reason to take chances. But the main immigration policy problem is in this case not in the bureaucracy, but in 95% of the Beltway, GOP included.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2020 05:50 PM (El6T/)

322 I gotta think the declassification is the key. Won't the stuff get FOIA'd if it isn't released?

I think it sees sunlight no matter what, just a question of when.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at May 26, 2020 05:50 PM (Wm5SB)

323
Definitely could be said that Man is just acting according to his Nature. Still I would put that in the Man Made column.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:47 PM (A5zUN)

Yeah, I would too. Didn't make meself clear in that post.

Like I said, whole thing is debatable based on what you consider man, and what you consider nature.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 26, 2020 05:50 PM (NgKpN)

324 And someone in the background yells INCLUDING THE CAMERAMAN

FATALITY! FLAWLESS VICTORY!
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 05:47 PM (GbPPJ)
++++++++++
"Half your crew's not wearing 'em!"

Awesome. If only press whores could feel shame.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 05:50 PM (hYcqw)

325 "Striking images..."

LOL
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 26, 2020 05:49 PM (sWM8x)

Someone else yells half your crew isn't and the guy who they panned to without a mask was filming them on his phone and thus has proof that the cameraman wasn't wearing a mask.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 05:50 PM (GbPPJ)

326 Maybe Sweden. Oh, or that town in Norway which is on an island and is the furthest north continuously occupied town?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:50 PM (A5zUN)

327 NHL just said if you think the ice in May & June sucked, Just wait till July & August

Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at May 26, 2020 05:50 PM (j7aNt)

328 Every day Die Hard starts to look more and more like a documentary of the FBI.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 at May 26, 2020 05:51 PM (+dsLj)

329 326
Maybe Sweden. Oh, or that town in Norway which is on an island and is the furthest north continuously occupied town?

**cough**

Posted by: Santa's workshop at May 26, 2020 05:51 PM (T6t7i)

330 52 Note to Pete Butt Edge Edge - this is how you homosexual......
Posted by: CoolHandLuke at May 26, 2020 05:05
____________

lol

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 26, 2020 05:51 PM (k4dH2)

331 @284
There power was not limited, they could have gone to the well of the house and Senate and reveled what they were learning in closed door sessions.

That what was being advanced in public by former Obama officials and the Mueller investigation was a lie, and instead let it consume Trump's first term.

I do not want to hear how powerless everyone in potions of power are.

It's bullshit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 26, 2020 05:52 PM (1vb+E)

332 I like Pence a lot, but as we've discussed before, I get no sense that he wants to go on after he terms out of the VP's office. My guess is at that point he drops out of politics and goes back to a very nice, cushy job as Indiana State University President, or something on that level.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2020 05:46 PM (Kpl3J)

He's been a good foil for Trump's alpha persona. He would be a disaster at the top.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 26, 2020 05:52 PM (y7DUB)

333 For you guys into GAINZ:
https://tinyurl.com/y8uyk6uy
We may never see another post from some of us.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 26, 2020 05:42 PM (pw+jk)
++++++++++++
That's well put together. And funny.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 05:52 PM (hYcqw)

334 or that town in Norway which is on an island and is the furthest north continuously occupied town?

Is that the one where the guy shot 77 people?

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Unbanned Chapter at May 26, 2020 05:52 PM (vGJY7)

335 328 Every day Die Hard starts to look more and more like a documentary of the FBI.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 at May 26, 2020 05:51 PM (+dsLj)

*grenell walks into the FBI Building, alone*

*Building explodes, he is backlit walking away from the explosion*

Dwayne: Oh, we're going to need some more FBI guys...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:52 PM (A5zUN)

336 Of course, there is always Flynn. Once he is fully exonerated, Trump will want to give him something to do ( I would imagine). He might also be a good choice for CIA.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 26, 2020 05:52 PM (NVYyb)

337 **cough**
Posted by: Santa's workshop at May 26, 2020 05:51 PM (T6t7i)
=====

Where's your damn mask?

Posted by: Karen at May 26, 2020 05:53 PM (iydjf)

338 Abolish the FBI.

And give Grenell a raise.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 26, 2020 05:53 PM (Z+IKu)

339 OT: a nice graphic showing where how the COVID deaths are distributed

https://bit.ly/2zw3ciA
Posted by: t-bird at May 26, 2020 05:40 PM (ELgVT)

That's a good one.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 26, 2020 05:53 PM (1g7ch)

340 Seriously, that poster was talking about you, Empress? Because who the hell is he to be insulting? Your response was remarkably gracious if that was directed your way. Anyway, back to our regularly scheduled political ranting..
Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 26, 2020 05:44 PM (NVYyb)

If it was, I missed it. I was answering the Uncle wait what are We Gays who think wrongthink called. Now that is an area which in I do have personal experience and expertise.

I'm still laughing over the INCLUDING THE CAMERAMAN because the body language of the reporter is yeah just got busted.

Seriously, in this day and age when everyone has recording devices which are hooked up to the Internet with them at all times, it is idiotic to think that wouldn't get pointed out.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 05:53 PM (GbPPJ)

341 Dang Richard Herd is mort.

That guy was in everything!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 26, 2020 05:53 PM (axyOa)

342 don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2020 05:53 PM (UUUON)

343 310 OMFG

That's so awesome.

You do not own all of the cameras

Posted by: jsg at May 26, 2020 05:53 PM (wLch8)

344 141 "When you do ALL-mail-in voting, you're asking for fraud."

PDT
___________________

Uh, duh dude!

It's the only way we can win!

Posted by: Dim Party at May 26, 2020 05:53 PM (k4dH2)

345 313 299 Ha!
Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:44 PM (IhjjI)

Is it wrong that I read all your comments as Peter Lorre?

Probably disrespectful.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:45 PM (A5zUN)

I think that's hilarious!
It would be "peter lorre."
Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:48 PM (IhjjI)

Well, at least he didn't Morocco Mole from Secret Squirel!

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 26, 2020 05:53 PM (NgKpN)

346 Then add back in what may be the 2nd most cause of death in the US?

Medical mistakes?

--

Wait, you mean from the people who told us masks don't help but please wear masks?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - people shouldn't wear face masks according to the CDC, HHS, and the surgeon general at May 26, 2020 05:53 PM (ZFog+)

347 I'm really looking forward to seeing where Ric Grenell ends up next! Trump is doing a great job at making use of Grenell's talents.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 26, 2020 05:54 PM (H3MF8)

348 332 I like Pence a lot, but as we've discussed before, I get no sense that he wants to go on after he terms out of the VP's office. My guess is at that point he drops out of politics and goes back to a very nice, cushy job as Indiana State University President, or something on that level.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2020 05:46 PM (Kpl3J)

He's been a good foil for Trump's alpha persona. He would be a disaster at the top.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 26, 2020 05:52 PM (y7DUB)

But not on the magnitude of Sniffy Joe.

Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:54 PM (IhjjI)

349 334 or that town in Norway which is on an island and is the furthest north continuously occupied town?

Is that the one where the guy shot 77 people?
Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Unbanned Chapter at May 26, 2020 05:52 PM (vGJY7)

Not sure, I was thinking of Longyearbyen.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:54 PM (A5zUN)

350 He's been a good foil for Trump's alpha persona. He would be a disaster at the top.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 26, 2020 05:52 PM (y7DUB)

The world needs Robins, too. Everybody can't be Batman, no matter what Hollywood thinks.

Come to think of it, Billionaire playboy, hmmmmm.....

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at May 26, 2020 05:54 PM (Wm5SB)

351 I am seeing more and more people outside wearing masks, FedEx guy in truck wearing one, 2 young ladies in a vehicle all windows down both with masks.
They are really working for this to be the new normal.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2020 05:54 PM (ZCEU2)

352 OT: a nice graphic showing where how the COVID deaths are distributed

https://bit.ly/2zw3ciA

Posted by: t-bird at May 26, 2020 05:40 PM (ELgVT)

You can see why we had to shut the whole country down. /s

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 26, 2020 05:54 PM (95x/r)

353 Sidebar note: in 1941, my father went to Canada and joined the RCAF. He says THEY told him about carrots helping vision. (He always hated carrots).

He was still training in Dec, so he ended up in the USN.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 26, 2020 05:54 PM (ZbwAu)

354 336 Of course, there is always Flynn. Once he is fully exonerated, Trump will want to give him something to do ( I would imagine). He might also be a good choice for CIA.
____________

He should make a new office for Gen. Flynn: Deep-State Annihilation Czar

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 26, 2020 05:54 PM (k4dH2)

355 Then add back in what may be the 2nd most cause of death in the US?

Medical mistakes?

Yup, could be argued either way.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 26, 2020 05:45 PM (NgKpN)
+++++++++++++++
Does the decision by some governors to force COVID-positive patients into nursing homes (and subsequently the deaths of lots of people who needn't have died) count as a "medical mistake?"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 05:55 PM (hYcqw)

356 Heh. Grennell leaves him with a gift if he uses it, or a curse if he doesn't.

Well played.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 26, 2020 05:56 PM (h6CJG)

357 Population: 2365

Average High Temp in July: 45 degrees (F)

Average Low in February: -5.8 (F)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:56 PM (A5zUN)

358 But not on the magnitude of Sniffy Joe.
Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 05:54 PM (IhjjI)

I'm still amazed people pretend to like that retard

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 26, 2020 05:56 PM (y7DUB)

359 so damn complicated, this happy thingy

Posted by: grease monkey at May 26, 2020 05:57 PM (NUe40)

360 Average High Temp in July: 45 degrees (F)

Average Low in February: -5.8 (F)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:56 PM (A5zUN)

My ex ?

Posted by: jsg at May 26, 2020 05:57 PM (wLch8)

361 Twitter just slapped a warning on Trump's tweets about the Democrats demanding universal mail in ballots offering a link to show them the "real" facts about mail in voting.

The real like goes to CNN.

This should be interesting.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 26, 2020 05:57 PM (ZLI7S)

362 Does the decision by some governors to force COVID-positive patients into nursing homes (and subsequently the deaths of lots of people who needn't have died) count as a "medical mistake?"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 05:55 PM (hYcqw)

No. That was straight up murder.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:57 PM (A5zUN)

363 If you mean the murder hornets sock, it was me. I forgot to de-sock. (Not hard to figure out, though).

And no, it was most definitely not a shot at alex.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2020 05:58 PM (gd9RK)

364 Grenell is just an Uncle

*****

Uncle Tommy Tunes?
Who knows what slur Biden will come up with.

Posted by: LASue at May 26, 2020 05:58 PM (Ed8Zd)

365 It was Ut�ya in Tyrifjorden, Viken

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Unbanned Chapter at May 26, 2020 05:58 PM (vGJY7)

366 link

Posted by: JackStraw at May 26, 2020 05:58 PM (ZLI7S)

367 Of course, there is always Flynn. Once he is fully exonerated, Trump will want to give him something to do ( I would imagine). He might also be a good choice for CIA.

*******************

Yooooo hooooooooo, we need you over here, big boy! *waves hanky*

Posted by: Empty Director of Homeland Security Seat at May 26, 2020 05:58 PM (+dsLj)

368 What can Trump do to stop mail in voting,because that's exactly what the Democrat Governors have or will call for. I don't thinkTrump can do an executive order on that, can he?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 26, 2020 05:59 PM (+eVzC)

369 360 Average High Temp in July: 45 degrees (F)

Average Low in February: -5.8 (F)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:56 PM (A5zUN)

My ex ?
Posted by: jsg at May 26, 2020 05:57 PM (wLch

Shit, 102 here right now, supposed to get to 106.

110 on Thursday.

Central Calif.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 26, 2020 05:59 PM (NgKpN)

370
And no, it was most definitely not a shot at alex.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2020 05:58 PM (gd9RK)

...the ette Murder Hornet coming to he protection of manatees everywhere.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 26, 2020 06:00 PM (iq0yV)

371 If you mean the murder hornets sock, it was me. I forgot to de-sock. (Not hard to figure out, though).

And no, it was most definitely not a shot at alex.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2020 05:58 PM (gd9RK)

Yes, when Bander wants to take a shot at me, he just spreads lies and calumny that I fall over while lying down.

WHICH I NEVER DID, BANDER.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 06:00 PM (GbPPJ)

372 Does the decision by some governors to force
COVID-positive patients into nursing homes (and subsequently the deaths
of lots of people who needn't have died) count as a "medical mistake?"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 05:55 PM (hYcqw)

No. That was straight up murder.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 05:57 PM (A5zUN)
==
At the very least depraved indifference. 10,000 counts for Cuhomo.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 26, 2020 06:00 PM (pw+jk)

373 Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 05:47 PM (GbPPJ)

OMG, Lake Geneva. hahahahaha. Oh, grammie?

Posted by: Infidel at May 26, 2020 06:00 PM (sNpqr)

374 The real like goes to CNN.

This should be interesting.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 26, 2020 05:57 PM (ZLI7S)

*********

A friend of mine posted a legit chinavirus study and got deleted by Facebook, who declared the post false information and replaced it with a link to the WHO.

Fuck these fucking fuckheads up their fucking asses.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 at May 26, 2020 06:00 PM (+dsLj)

375 OT: a nice graphic showing where how the COVID deaths are distributed

https://bit.ly/2zw3ciA

---

Holy crap. It's clear why boat ramps in West Virginia should be chained closed.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - people shouldn't wear face masks according to the CDC, HHS, and the surgeon general at May 26, 2020 06:01 PM (ZFog+)

376 What can Trump do to stop mail in voting,because that's exactly what the Democrat Governors have or will call for. I don't thinkTrump can do an executive order on that, can he?

******

For federal elections I think he can.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 at May 26, 2020 06:01 PM (+dsLj)

377 Shit, 102 here right now, supposed to get to 106.

110 on Thursday.

Central Calif.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 26, 2020 05:59 PM (NgKpN)

===
I knew it was hot inland because we had heavy mist (thick fog) here until 1:00.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 26, 2020 06:01 PM (pw+jk)

378 Mr. Bender, I appreciate your position and your defense of it.

I just have a different view and time is going to prove one of us right.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2020 06:01 PM (rMtbr)

379 Fen just veto any crap the House sends. Hopefully the Senate will stop it first.
It is a state issue IMO anyway.

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2020 06:02 PM (ZCEU2)

380 WHICH I NEVER DID, BANDER.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 06:00 PM (GbPPJ)

Alex, dear, do you really have a murder hornet in a box? With a mailing label and enough postage to reach Washington, DC?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: tcn in AK at May 26, 2020 06:02 PM (vVOK2)

381 DeSantis/Grenell 2024

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 26, 2020 06:02 PM (dLLD6)

382 378 Mr. Bender, I appreciate your position and your defense of it.

I just have a different view and time is going to prove one of us right.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2020 06:01 PM (rMtbr)

You do realize this is the internet, right? At least put a sarc tag in there.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 06:03 PM (A5zUN)

383 Trust not in princes.

Posted by: Eromero at May 26, 2020 06:03 PM (XhWtx)

384 341 Dang Richard Herd is mort.

That guy was in everything!
Posted by: Diogenes at May 26, 2020 05:53 PM (axyOa)

You're right! I didn't recognize the name, so I went and looked up the pictures of him, and thought "Damn! I've been watching that guy for 40 years!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2020 06:03 PM (Kpl3J)

385 383 Trust not in princes.
Posted by: Eromero at May 26, 2020 06:03 PM (XhWtx)

Jefferson Davis?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 06:03 PM (A5zUN)

386 A friend of mine posted a legit chinavirus study and got deleted by Facebook, who declared the post false information and replaced it with a link to the WHO.

Fuck these fucking fuckheads up their fucking asses.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 at May 26, 2020 06:00 PM (+dsLj)

YouTube got stone cold busted instantly deleting any comment that had a two Chinese character comment that was critical of China.

As in people were testing it and they would post the comment, it would show up, reload and BAM gone.

YouTube claimed this was an "error".

Oh and Michael Moore had a film up on YouTube that, to his tiny as his peen credit, goes after the professional environmental movement as being full of con artists and grifters who do nothing for the environment. Said people went crazy and got it taken down.

Obviously, Moore refers to that as Trumpian censorship because he's Moore.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 06:04 PM (GbPPJ)

387 A friend of mine posted a legit chinavirus study and got deleted by Facebook, who declared the post false information and replaced it with a link to the WHO.

Fuck these fucking fuckheads up their fucking asses.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 at May 26, 2020 06:00 PM (+dsLj)

One of the Facebook Chairman's of their content committee has said that she was Happy because they were gong to use EU models of Speech, not the US's Freedom of Speech model.

We need a US Law that says if you are going to do business in the US, then you ALSO need to follow the Bill of Rights.

It was important enough for our Founders to protect our Rights from the Fed Gov, why is it not important to protect those same rights from Business?

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 26, 2020 06:04 PM (NgKpN)

388 If Grenell becomes CIA head, would that make him The Queer Spy for that Trump Guy?

Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 26, 2020 06:04 PM (G546f)

389 Alex, dear, do you really have a murder hornet in a box? With a mailing label and enough postage to reach Washington, DC?

Asking for a friend.
Posted by: tcn in AK at May 26, 2020 06:02 PM (vVOK2)

Had I one, I would most certainly allow your friend to use it.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 06:05 PM (GbPPJ)

390 @378
My ire is not directed at commenters, we all have our opinions.

My ire is with the situation we find ourselves in, the scam and delay has brought us to the brink, we are running out of time to do anything about it in Trumps first term.

If anyone is face punishment in this life, it will have to be in Trumps second term, if at all.

And we better hope Trump wins, because if he doesn't, it all just goes away.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 26, 2020 06:05 PM (1vb+E)

391 Obviously, Moore refers to that as Trumpian censorship because he's Moore.

********************

Fat fuck only gets so far as recognizing a crime took place but then blames the victim for it.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 at May 26, 2020 06:05 PM (+dsLj)

392 A friend of mine posted a legit chinavirus study and got deleted by Facebook, who declared the post false information and replaced it with a link to the WHO.

--

Just imagine if they were editors.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - people shouldn't wear face masks according to the CDC, HHS, and the surgeon general at May 26, 2020 06:05 PM (ZFog+)

393 And we better hope Trump wins, because if he doesn't, it all just goes away.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 26, 2020 06:05 PM (1vb+E)

Hopefully not. It just gets a lot more messy to square the circle then.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 06:06 PM (A5zUN)

394 Ratcliffe was one of Trump's strongest defenders in the House. I strongly suspect that at the time, there was also a lot of back door communication between Ratcliffe and Trump himself, which would have been what led to his nomination as DNI.

and if that's true, then a lot of what he did or didn't do at the time was probably coordinated with Team Trump.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2020 06:06 PM (Kpl3J)

395 392 A friend of mine posted a legit chinavirus study and got deleted by Facebook, who declared the post false information and replaced it with a link to the WHO.

--

Just imagine if they were editors.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - people shouldn't wear face masks according to the CDC, HHS, and the surgeon general at May 26, 2020 06:05 PM (ZFog+)

Better? They supposedly have an AI doing a lot of the word now.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 26, 2020 06:07 PM (NgKpN)

396 Vmom your lucky I wasn't eating or drinking anything

Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2020 06:07 PM (ZCEU2)

397 whoever Trump crowns 2024 will be the nominee

One of three

Haley, DeSantis or Mitt

jk, or Pence

the early odds in Mytown is on Haley

Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2020 06:07 PM (UUUON)

398 What Mom names her kid Dick Burr ???

High school principal Richard Seaman

https://www.classmates.com/people/RichardSeaman/128971591

Posted by: doesky2 at May 26, 2020 06:07 PM (r4+dn)

399 Facebook is total propaganda. Get off it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2020 06:07 PM (Kpl3J)

400 Aetius, Hah, good catch.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2020 06:07 PM (rMtbr)

401 Trust not in princes.

Posted by: Eromero at May 26, 2020 06:03 PM (XhWtx)

I never liked his music

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 26, 2020 06:08 PM (95x/r)

402 Twitter just slapped a warning on Trump's tweets about the Democrats demanding universal mail in ballots offering a link to show them the "real" facts about mail in voting.

The real like goes to CNN.

This should be interesting.
Posted by: JackStraw

Joe! Joe! Can you believe it? They like me! They really, really like me!

Posted by: Mika Brzyznskaren at May 26, 2020 06:08 PM (786Ro)

403 Haley would be a mistake I think. When the rubber met the road, she buckled like a belt.

Where was the guy asking about mixed metaphors earlier?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 06:08 PM (A5zUN)

404 396 Vmom your lucky I wasn't eating or drinking anything
Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2020 06:07 PM (ZCEU2)

Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 26, 2020 06:08 PM (G546f)

405 Haley, DeSantis, Pence
I'd be happy.

Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 06:08 PM (IhjjI)

406 Hey kids! Looking for that perfect gift for the Koven of Karenwaffen next door?

Murder Hornets in a Box from Ronco!

You'll be the life of the party!

Posted by: Archer at May 26, 2020 06:09 PM (gmo/4)

407 One of the new Facebook censors is the female lawyer who testified to Congress for the Democrats right before the impeachment votes, Pamela Karlan.

During her testimony she made fun of Baron Trump so obviously she's all about fair and honest speech. She's a far left loon.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 26, 2020 06:09 PM (ZLI7S)

408 FFS, the idiot governor of VA is going to require mask-wearing in public starting *Friday*?? As the epidemic - of course - goes into its tail section, declining without any impact from anything done by us, he's going to *begin* requiring a completely useless practice?

Back when people I knew were moving to VA from DC so they could own gunz, never thought I'd see the day VA was, in fact, more dumbed-down and idiotic than CA.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2020 06:09 PM (El6T/)

409 315 "Trey Gowdy really likes Johnny. That's a strike. What's Nunez think?"

Nunes's chief of staff who knows all the dirt is still at DNI--Kash Patel as pointed out above. I think we are ok there.

Trump may be waiting to see where the place of most danger/potential clean up us before deploying one of his best weapons--aka, Ric Grenell. What a terrific pick he is.

Pence--meh. Nice guy but not enough fire in the belly to deal with the deep state demonrats.

I used to think Sessions was the same--but as more info comes out about the machinations in March-Sept 2017, I think he is weak at best. He really had NO reason to recuse--all the Senators met with Kislyak and the like.

And some folks think Kislyak was in on the scam.

Posted by: groovygirl at May 26, 2020 06:09 PM (ybC9u)

410 388 If Grenell becomes CIA head, would that make him The Queer Spy for that Trump Guy?
Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 26, 2020 06:04 PM (G546f)

Lest anyone missed this.

Posted by: m at May 26, 2020 06:10 PM (IhjjI)

411 Oh look!
https://tinyurl.com/y95j8r7l

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 26, 2020 06:10 PM (r+sAi)

412 407 One of the new Facebook censors is the female lawyer who testified to Congress for the Democrats right before the impeachment votes, Pamela Karlan.

During her testimony she made fun of Baron Trump so obviously she's all about fair and honest speech. She's a far left loon.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 26, 2020 06:09 PM (ZLI7S)

Tangentially linked. The guy pictured... yiffing at the beginning of this video is who Twitch chose to be on the Trust and Safety council moderating (I believe this individual was also mentioned by ace in the sidebar a couple days ago.)

https://tinyurl.com/y7zjbd5n

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 06:11 PM (A5zUN)

413 Nood, video mentioned earlier by atc(?)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 06:12 PM (A5zUN)

414 Nood, video mentioned earlier by atc(?)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 26, 2020 06:12 PM (A5zUN)

Yay! I was trying to mind whammy ace into doing a post on it because it's hilarious.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 06:14 PM (GbPPJ)

415 394 Ratcliffe was one of Trump's strongest defenders in the House. I strongly suspect that at the time, there was also a lot of back door communication between Ratcliffe and Trump himself, which would have been what led to his nomination as DNI.

and if that's true, then a lot of what he did or didn't do at the time was probably coordinated with Team Trump.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2020 06:06 PM (Kpl3J)

*********************************

Trump nominated Ratcliffe to replace Dan Cotes but BURR squashed it saying no way was he getting passed the intel committee, so Trump withdrew the nomination rather than have Ratcliffe get defeated.

Look where Burr is now.
Not a coincidence for those who persist in thinking Trump is "stumbling his way' through his presidency and just "getting lucky."

Posted by: Venus at May 26, 2020 06:14 PM (iYXhj)

416 As the horse has already run out of the barn, Sessions was a perfect fir for DHS rather than AG.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 26, 2020 06:15 PM (rMtbr)

417 397 whoever Trump crowns 2024 will be the nominee

One of three

Haley, DeSantis or Mitt

jk, or Pence

the early odds in Mytown is on Haley
Posted by: REDACTED at May 26, 2020 06:07 PM (UUUON)

******************************

I will not vote for Haley.
She would be a GOPe disaster, doing to Trump's reforms what GHWB did to Reagan's.

Posted by: Venus at May 26, 2020 06:15 PM (iYXhj)

418 Dang Richard Herd is mort.

Dick Herd, Dick Herd... [looks up image]

Oh hell yeah. Karl Malden's brother by another mother.

Posted by: King Arthur at May 26, 2020 06:30 PM (ZSK0i)

419 Making his successor chose up sides.

Posted by: Thud Muffle at May 26, 2020 06:35 PM (p7tnE)

420 Radcliff needs to take a leave of absence every 2-3 weeks just so Rick can pop in on an interim basis and just shit all over Adam Schiff's desk. I hope he gets the chance to be UN ambassador, it'd be spectacular.

Posted by: Rbastid at May 27, 2020 12:02 AM (8p44R)

421 The rush to approve Ratcliffe is curious. At first, he was proposed as nominee, but faced enormous criticism. The criticism ostensibly focused on his supposed lack of experience in intelligence matters. The criticism's real purpose was derailing a member of the House posse, led by Nunes, for his role in exposing the Russia Collusion fraud and then its weak sister, the Ukrainian Quid Pro Quo fraud. His nomination was withdrawn. But he was proposed again when Maguire's term as acting chief expired. The thinking is Grenell is a wild man, let's put Ratcliffe in ASAP. But I don't expect Ratcliffe to be any less vigorous in cleaning out the Intelligence Community of miscreants and exposing their misconduct. Will he be more judicious in wording his missives to Senator Warner? Perhaps, but everyone is learning the Trump approach these days: McEnany, Grenell, Barr, Pompeo. Ratcliffe is more than capable of holding his own in this crowd.

Posted by: Nikola's Notion at May 27, 2020 07:28 AM (hrHLc)

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