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Politico: What Gives Democrats Nightmares Is the Possibility That the Economy Will Start Growing if the Nation Is Reopened
Yes, we all knew this.
This blows zero minds. But thank you for admitting it.Democrats fear rapid economic growth in third quarter. 'Best economic data we’ve seen in the history of this country.' For Biden, a worst-case scenario. From @politico https://t.co/ZGd1cUCpBP pic.twitter.com/9IG7UfhzWM
— Byron York (@ByronYork) May 26, 2020
In early April, Jason Furman, a top economist in the Obama administration and now a professor at Harvard, was speaking via Zoom to a large bipartisan group of top officials from both parties. The economy had just been shut down, unemployment was spiking, and some policymakers were predicting an era worse than the Great Depression. The economic carnage seemed likely to doom President Donald Trump’s chances at reelection. Furman, tapped to give the opening presentation, looked into his screen of poorly lit boxes of frightened wonks and made a startling claim. "We are about to see the best economic data we've seen in the history of this country," he said. ... Furman's counterintuitive pitch has caused some Democrats, especially Obama alumni, around Washington to panic. "This is my big worry," said a former Obama White House official who is still close to the former president. Asked about the level of concern among top party officials, he said, "It's high -- high, high, high, high."
The fact that Democrats have admitted this -- and Politico has published their admission -- will not, however, stop the media from claiming that it's a "conspiracy theory" to say the Democrats want to keep critical parts of the country locked down to depress the economy.
Comments
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Stock market up 670 at the moment...
Posted by: gdgm+ at May 26, 2020 02:39 PM (ExnWy)
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Nooooo.
Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at May 26, 2020 02:40 PM (KXkkH)
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This has been the Democrat MO for years it's only recently that they are saying it out loud. F the Democrats, Go Trump, drain the swamp, MAGA!
Posted by: Kenny The G from AZ at May 26, 2020 02:40 PM (XO8ze)
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Free at last! Trumpism for the win.
Posted by: free tibet at May 26, 2020 02:40 PM (MUTE3)
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Hit the big time at last. Top o the world Ma!
Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home&&&& at May 26, 2020 02:40 PM (l+SH7)
Posted by: navybrat, largely at large at May 26, 2020 02:41 PM (w7KSn)
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Called "new thread" below.
Posted by: gdgm+ at May 26, 2020 02:41 PM (ExnWy)
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not first
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 02:41 PM (LvTSG)
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How are black people supposed to think?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has saved 2 million people since January at May 26, 2020 02:41 PM (5p/zy)
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Early night for Trump
Posted by: Bull Wynn at May 26, 2020 02:42 PM (Ojki1)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 26, 2020 02:42 PM (Zz0t1)
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The fact that Democrats have admitted this -- and Politico has published their admission -- will not, however, stop the media from claiming that it's a "conspiracy theory" to say the Democrats want to keep critical parts of the country locked down to depress the economy.
Posted by: Ace at 02:39 PM
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Fake news!
Oh, wait...that's so 3 years ago.
The fact that Democrats have admitted this -- and Politico has published their admission -- will not, however, stop the media from claiming that it's a "conspiracy theory" to say the Democrats want to keep critical parts of the country locked down to depress the economy.
Posted by: Ace at 02:39 PM
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Fake news!
Oh, wait...that's so 3 years ago.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 02:42 PM (LvTSG)
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Democrats fear intact black families, children born to a husband and wife, high school educated men and women with good trade and skilled labor jobs, and retirees that dont need SS checks.
Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 26, 2020 02:42 PM (JFO2v)
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The only way to stop the Wu Flu is to keep the country closed long enough to prevent Trump rallies, prevent debates, and have vote by mail and all the fraud that goes with it. It's for our own good.
Posted by: brak at May 26, 2020 02:42 PM (cG+eD)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 26, 2020 02:42 PM (AyQTw)
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This is the problem with crippling blue zone economies. The worse it gets, the more the recovery makes the red governors look like messiahs. This would ordinarily be squelched by pressuring major corporations with litigation- but the solution to that is massive deregulation and cracking down on leech lawsuits.
The Dems were so busy dreaming of a New Deal that they genuinely didn't think Trump would have a new deal of his own.
The Dems were so busy dreaming of a New Deal that they genuinely didn't think Trump would have a new deal of his own.
Posted by: trev006 at May 26, 2020 02:42 PM (37rWG)
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Things good for America bad for dems.
Things bad for dems, good for America.
Can't be said enough.
Things bad for dems, good for America.
Can't be said enough.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at May 26, 2020 02:42 PM (2ljLl)
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Greta Wall @GretaLWall
19m
#NEW New home sales rise in April
@CommerceGov reports new sales rose 0.6% in April after plunging 13.7% in March
Sales +8.7% in Northeast
Sales +2.4% in both Midwest and South
Sales -6.3% in the West
New sales increase is sharp contrast to 17.8% plunge in existing sales
*******
Willowed
19m
#NEW New home sales rise in April
@CommerceGov reports new sales rose 0.6% in April after plunging 13.7% in March
Sales +8.7% in Northeast
Sales +2.4% in both Midwest and South
Sales -6.3% in the West
New sales increase is sharp contrast to 17.8% plunge in existing sales
*******
Willowed
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at May 26, 2020 02:42 PM (j7aNt)
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Trump has managed to turn a foreign plague, national shutdown, and economic contraction into a political wave come November, all thanks to the stupidity and arrogance of the left.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 26, 2020 02:42 PM (wCmLp)
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will not, however, stop the media from claiming that it's a "conspiracy theory" to say the Democrats want to keep critical parts of the country locked down to depress the economy.
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Media can't have any conspiracy except their own.
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Media can't have any conspiracy except their own.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 26, 2020 02:42 PM (axyOa)
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In other words, Democrats want you to suffer, mightily, so they can win re-election and keep you suffering.
Why on EARTH would anyone elect Democrats?
Why on EARTH would anyone elect Democrats?
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 26, 2020 02:42 PM (Zz0t1)
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@15 - because it's so rare.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 26, 2020 02:42 PM (E+OcO)
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The Dignity Canal is too good for these assholes.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 26, 2020 02:43 PM (TvI/0)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 26, 2020 02:43 PM (YaiCw)
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How are black people supposed to think?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has saved 2 million people since January at May 26, 2020 02:41 PM (5p/zy)
The way we tell them!
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has saved 2 million people since January at May 26, 2020 02:41 PM (5p/zy)
The way we tell them!
Posted by: White left wingers at May 26, 2020 02:43 PM (85Gof)
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16 This is the problem with crippling blue zone economies. The worse it gets, the more the recovery makes the red governors look like messiahs. This would ordinarily be squelched by pressuring major corporations with litigation- but the solution to that is massive deregulation and cracking down on leech lawsuits.
The Dems were so busy dreaming of a New Deal that they genuinely didn't think Trump would have a new deal of his own.
Posted by: trev006 at May 26, 2020 02:42 PM (37rWG)
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Democratic politicians are strangling the American economy in broad daylight and with constant press, and the American people are going to punish...Donald Trump for that?
The Dems were so busy dreaming of a New Deal that they genuinely didn't think Trump would have a new deal of his own.
Posted by: trev006 at May 26, 2020 02:42 PM (37rWG)
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Democratic politicians are strangling the American economy in broad daylight and with constant press, and the American people are going to punish...Donald Trump for that?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 02:43 PM (LvTSG)
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How are black people supposed to think?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has saved 2 million people since January at May 26, 2020 02:41 PM
Who said they're allowed to think? Their job is merely to vote as we instruct them.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has saved 2 million people since January at May 26, 2020 02:41 PM
Who said they're allowed to think? Their job is merely to vote as we instruct them.
Posted by: The MFM at May 26, 2020 02:43 PM (ejd/p)
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Of course they are. Newsome is colluding with the Wicked Witch of the West, Nanzi Polygrip to keep Kalifornia closed.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 26, 2020 02:43 PM (pw+jk)
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Gee, you know who else wanted his countrymen to suffer economic hardship in order to implement his New World Order?
Yeah, that guy.
Yeah, that guy.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 26, 2020 02:43 PM (WEBkv)
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If Politico was an actual newspaper, the best place to read it would be on the shifter... recycling at its best.
Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home&&&& at May 26, 2020 02:43 PM (l+SH7)
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We are going to see the greatest GDP growth and employment growth figures the world has ever known. Sure its because they were proceeded by the worst in the world. But of course Trump is going to trumpet this.
In addition, he saved about 2,000,000 people.
Well done Mr. President.
In addition, he saved about 2,000,000 people.
Well done Mr. President.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 02:43 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Diogenes at May 26, 2020 02:43 PM (axyOa)
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the Democrats want to keep critical parts of the country locked down to depress the economy.
Posted by: Ace at 02:39 PM
Yup. You want to start freaking blue Staters out, claim that Trump is planning to siege them at their weakest. Their cities are already in a state of rebellion- perfect timing to roll in an army and put heads on spikes.
Posted by: Ace at 02:39 PM
Yup. You want to start freaking blue Staters out, claim that Trump is planning to siege them at their weakest. Their cities are already in a state of rebellion- perfect timing to roll in an army and put heads on spikes.
Posted by: trev006 at May 26, 2020 02:44 PM (37rWG)
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19 Trump has managed to turn a foreign plague, national shutdown, and economic contraction into a political wave come November, all thanks to the stupidity and arrogance of the left.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 26, 2020 02:42 PM (wCmLp)
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You mean, he has a basic understanding of human nature and exploited it?
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 26, 2020 02:42 PM (wCmLp)
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You mean, he has a basic understanding of human nature and exploited it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 02:44 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 26, 2020 02:44 PM (85Gof)
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Wasn't this part of JJ's morning post today?
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 26, 2020 02:44 PM (Zz0t1)
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I don't see how we get record numbers if the freedom is still limited.
Run your restaurant at 40% capacity? Restaurants barely make money at full capacity. They're not going to be booming back they're going to be dying more slowly.
The only thing open here is the supermarket and it does not have capacity limits. People have learned to give each other six feet.
We got to open wide, nationwide, in remastered 70 mm.
Run your restaurant at 40% capacity? Restaurants barely make money at full capacity. They're not going to be booming back they're going to be dying more slowly.
The only thing open here is the supermarket and it does not have capacity limits. People have learned to give each other six feet.
We got to open wide, nationwide, in remastered 70 mm.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2020 02:44 PM (gd9RK)
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There is huge pent-up demand all over this country to go out and spend like drunken sailors. All the governing Karens are realizing this and grabbing onto whatever they can with their fascist little grimy paws to try to slow it down.
Posted by: Roy at May 26, 2020 02:44 PM (Ti+Tv)
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We all knew this 1,000 times over. Thats why they keep up the fear of this Covid-19 crap.
Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2020 02:44 PM (ZCEU2)
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31 We are going to see the greatest GDP growth and employment growth figures the world has ever known. Sure its because they were proceeded by the worst in the world. But of course Trump is going to trumpet this.
In addition, he saved about 2,000,000 people.
Well done Mr. President.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 02:43 PM (sX1BW)
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Hey, at least impeachment won't be blamed for the red wave.
Maybe Democrats can try it again at some point.
In addition, he saved about 2,000,000 people.
Well done Mr. President.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 02:43 PM (sX1BW)
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Hey, at least impeachment won't be blamed for the red wave.
Maybe Democrats can try it again at some point.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 02:44 PM (LvTSG)
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"We are about to see the best economic data we've seen in the history of this country,"
And the democrats are worried?
The democrat party must be destroyed and I'm beginning to not think just at the ballot box.
And the democrats are worried?
The democrat party must be destroyed and I'm beginning to not think just at the ballot box.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 26, 2020 02:45 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 26, 2020 02:45 PM (+b1ew)
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Democratic politicians are strangling the American economy in broad daylight and with constant press, and the American people are going to punish...Donald Trump for that?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 02:43 PM (LvTSG)
Hinterlands territory in New York, Illinois, and Michigan are ready to MURDER the governors and burn the cities. All it would take is a little push. Few are better at that than Donny Two Scoops.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 02:43 PM (LvTSG)
Hinterlands territory in New York, Illinois, and Michigan are ready to MURDER the governors and burn the cities. All it would take is a little push. Few are better at that than Donny Two Scoops.
Posted by: trev006 at May 26, 2020 02:45 PM (37rWG)
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We are going to loose a whole bunch of small businesses, but
We can use this as an opportunity to reset some things that need fixing.
Like H1B crap, and illegal's having jobs, and trade deficits, and bringing manufacturing back to the US.
Question is, will the GOP allow the reset?
I'm betting not.
We can use this as an opportunity to reset some things that need fixing.
Like H1B crap, and illegal's having jobs, and trade deficits, and bringing manufacturing back to the US.
Question is, will the GOP allow the reset?
I'm betting not.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 26, 2020 02:45 PM (NgKpN)
45
This is just *aching* to be weaponized against them via some Parscale ad making.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 02:45 PM (hYcqw)
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someone needs to explain to me the difference between leftists' desires for this country and an erstwhile enemy's desires for this country, say China
because from where I'm standing, they pretty much intersect.
because from where I'm standing, they pretty much intersect.
Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at May 26, 2020 02:45 PM (uS2EJ)
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Sink the ship, killing all on board because they hate the captain.
Brainiacs.
Or psychopaths.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 26, 2020 02:45 PM (+b1ew)
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Apt description.
Brainiacs.
Or psychopaths.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 26, 2020 02:45 PM (+b1ew)
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Apt description.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 26, 2020 02:45 PM (WEBkv)
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Joe Biden will save them with his retard strength!
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 26, 2020 02:45 PM (oVJmc)
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The fact that Democrats have admitted this -- and Politico has published their admission -- will not, however, stop the media from claiming that it's a "conspiracy theory" to say the Democrats want to keep critical parts of the country locked down to depress the economy.
Close it up
Posted by Ace at 02:39 PM Comments
We used to call them low info voters, or swing voters and not what they really are.
Which is stupid and easily manipulated.
Close it up
Posted by Ace at 02:39 PM Comments
We used to call them low info voters, or swing voters and not what they really are.
Which is stupid and easily manipulated.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 26, 2020 02:45 PM (z79tQ)
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19 Trump has managed to turn a foreign plague, national shutdown, and economic contraction into a political wave come November, all thanks to the stupidity and arrogance of the left.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 26, 2020 02:42 PM (wCmLp)
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Chalking it up to the stupidity and arrogance of the left short changes Trump's ability to out-Alinsky the Alinskities.
Credit where credit is due -- and where not one single R president has been able to do in my lifetime, at least.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 26, 2020 02:42 PM (wCmLp)
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Chalking it up to the stupidity and arrogance of the left short changes Trump's ability to out-Alinsky the Alinskities.
Credit where credit is due -- and where not one single R president has been able to do in my lifetime, at least.
Posted by: Venus at May 26, 2020 02:46 PM (iYXhj)
Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 26, 2020 02:46 PM (iTXRQ)
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46 someone needs to explain to me the difference between leftists' desires for this country and an erstwhile enemy's desires for this country, say China
because from where I'm standing, they pretty much intersect.
Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at May 26, 2020 02:45 PM (uS2EJ)
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Who's in charge?
because from where I'm standing, they pretty much intersect.
Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at May 26, 2020 02:45 PM (uS2EJ)
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Who's in charge?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 02:46 PM (LvTSG)
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One possible brake on the economy: finding workers. Many are doing better on unemployment than if they returned to their jobs.
One possible brake on the economy: finding workers. Many are doing better on unemployment than if they returned to their jobs.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2020 02:46 PM (mht8P)
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42 Sink the ship, killing all on board because they hate the captain.
Brainiacs.
Or psychopaths.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 26, 2020 02:45 PM (+b1ew)
Psychopaths do not commit suicide.
Now, Sociopaths? that's another story.
Brainiacs.
Or psychopaths.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 26, 2020 02:45 PM (+b1ew)
Psychopaths do not commit suicide.
Now, Sociopaths? that's another story.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 26, 2020 02:47 PM (NgKpN)
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One possible brake on the economy: finding workers. Many are doing better on unemployment than if they returned to their jobs.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2020 02:46 PM (mht8P)
I heard the bonus unemployment was getting cut off in July.
One possible brake on the economy: finding workers. Many are doing better on unemployment than if they returned to their jobs.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2020 02:46 PM (mht8P)
I heard the bonus unemployment was getting cut off in July.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 26, 2020 02:47 PM (+b1ew)
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What's bugging me in all of this is the R states that are staying locked down. "Looking at you Wyoming" We are talking a state that is probably as (GOP) red as OK and UT, and largest industry is surely tourism, followed by energy and they 'may' loosen restrictions on no gatherings more than 25, and discouraging out of state visitors on the 30th.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 26, 2020 02:47 PM (T9Hmo)
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One possible brake on the economy: finding workers. Many are doing better on unemployment than if they returned to their jobs.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2020 02:46 PM (mht8P)
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I don't think they can keep their benefits if they refuse to go back to work.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2020 02:46 PM (mht8P)
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I don't think they can keep their benefits if they refuse to go back to work.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 26, 2020 02:47 PM (WEBkv)
58
Wait....
You're worried ..... FUCKING WORRIED . . . . that the economy will recover too quickly.
*rage seethes*
Wait....
You're worried ..... FUCKING WORRIED . . . . that the economy will recover too quickly.
*rage seethes*
Posted by: fixerupper at May 26, 2020 02:47 PM (nw6Hr)
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Fu*king masks put me out of work!
Posted by: Profesional Lip Reader at May 26, 2020 02:47 PM (axyOa)
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It's so nice when they admit the truth
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 26, 2020 02:42 PM (AyQTw)
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It's only happening in public for two reasons, one of which is deeply ironic:
1) They're desperate
b. The COVID-related lockdowns.
If it weren't for lockdowns, think they'd be discussing this kind of thing on Zoom instead of doing so in person where they can tactically handle leaks?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 26, 2020 02:42 PM (AyQTw)
+++++++++++++
It's only happening in public for two reasons, one of which is deeply ironic:
1) They're desperate
b. The COVID-related lockdowns.
If it weren't for lockdowns, think they'd be discussing this kind of thing on Zoom instead of doing so in person where they can tactically handle leaks?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 02:47 PM (hYcqw)
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huh, my first statement disappeared between writing it and posting it. Weird.
What I meant to say is thata the media is only concerned with influencing the middle 30% of America, which we used to call Low info voters
What I meant to say is thata the media is only concerned with influencing the middle 30% of America, which we used to call Low info voters
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 26, 2020 02:47 PM (z79tQ)
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It's like they're daring us to kill them.
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade a fucking ray of sunshine at May 26, 2020 02:47 PM (bML9A)
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One possible brake on the economy: finding workers. Many are doing better on unemployment than if they returned to their jobs.
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While, I think that is true for some workers, this isn't going to be much of a break at all.
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While, I think that is true for some workers, this isn't going to be much of a break at all.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 02:47 PM (sX1BW)
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It will be interesting to see how the Dems and the media (BIRM) assert that the 1st 3 years of Trump were really the Obama economy, the last 3 months were the Trump economy, and the time from now to the election will be the Obama economy again.
You know it's coming.
You know it's coming.
Posted by: pep at May 26, 2020 02:47 PM (T6t7i)
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This is why Blue State Democrats are fighting reopening tooth and nail despite causing massive unemployment.
Posted by: Vic at May 26, 2020 02:48 PM (mpXpK)
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What Gives Democrats Nightmares Is the Possibility That the Economy Will Start Growing if the Nation Is Reopened
The economy BETTER start growing or we are screwed.
The economy BETTER start growing or we are screwed.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 26, 2020 02:48 PM (Ol/Jg)
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Stock market up 670 at the moment...
Posted by: gdgm+ at May 26, 2020 02:39 PM (ExnWy)
The market is not the economy.
Posted by: gdgm+ at May 26, 2020 02:39 PM (ExnWy)
The market is not the economy.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 26, 2020 02:48 PM (z79tQ)
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Chalking it up to the stupidity and arrogance of the left short changes Trump's ability to out-Alinsky the Alinskities.
Posted by: Venus at May 26, 2020 02:46 PM (iYXhj)
Not at all. Trump knows how to read people, get them riled up, and give them enough rope to hang themselves. Sometimes seeing the obvious things and moving on them is the most difficult. It's why you see guys making money hand over fist for business ventures that make you go "how the hell didn't I see that there was money there?"
Plus, and I can't stress this enough, Trump is not a believer in the Imperial Presidency. Which means he's willing to let states do their own thing and suffer the consequences.
Posted by: Venus at May 26, 2020 02:46 PM (iYXhj)
Not at all. Trump knows how to read people, get them riled up, and give them enough rope to hang themselves. Sometimes seeing the obvious things and moving on them is the most difficult. It's why you see guys making money hand over fist for business ventures that make you go "how the hell didn't I see that there was money there?"
Plus, and I can't stress this enough, Trump is not a believer in the Imperial Presidency. Which means he's willing to let states do their own thing and suffer the consequences.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 26, 2020 02:48 PM (wCmLp)
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Hey everybody.
Politico is an interesting site. It seems like half their people are just more Dem apologists, and the other half actually believe in reporting facts.
Politico is an interesting site. It seems like half their people are just more Dem apologists, and the other half actually believe in reporting facts.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2020 02:48 PM (L2ZTs)
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65 This is why Blue State Democrats are fighting reopening tooth and nail despite causing massive unemployment.
Posted by: Vic at May 26, 2020 02:48 PM (mpXpK)
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"This is obviously Donald Trump's fault!"
-The American people, apparently
Posted by: Vic at May 26, 2020 02:48 PM (mpXpK)
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"This is obviously Donald Trump's fault!"
-The American people, apparently
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 02:48 PM (LvTSG)
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Two things I keep in mind: 1- That House-passed Phase X "Stimulus Bill" is DOA wherever it lands and 2 - The $600 unemployment bonus expires July 13 and millions of Americans will say "Aw sh*t, back to work".
Posted by: mrp at May 26, 2020 02:49 PM (Pqytn)
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One possible brake on the economy: finding workers. Many are doing better on unemployment than if they returned to their jobs.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2020 02:46 PM (mht8P)
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I think if a worker refuses a job their UE benefits get shutoff. Even the $600/ week the stupid GOP gave them.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2020 02:46 PM (mht8P)
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I think if a worker refuses a job their UE benefits get shutoff. Even the $600/ week the stupid GOP gave them.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 26, 2020 02:49 PM (pw+jk)
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I'm expecting a spike as pent up demand and 'patriotic buying' occurs. Then another correction, at which point we should get back on a slow and steady climb up.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 26, 2020 02:50 PM (+b1ew)
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Well, I suppose plan B in the event of a major economic rebound will be to return to claiming that we are experiencing "Obama's Economy."
Posted by: Alec Leamas at May 26, 2020 02:50 PM (ssz2a)
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One possible brake on the economy: finding workers. Many are doing better on unemployment than if they returned to their jobs.
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While, I think that is true for some workers, this isn't going to be much of a break at all.
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If you are offered a job & don't take it your Funemployment goes the way of the great white Buffalo
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While, I think that is true for some workers, this isn't going to be much of a break at all.
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If you are offered a job & don't take it your Funemployment goes the way of the great white Buffalo
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at May 26, 2020 02:50 PM (j7aNt)
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45 This is just *aching* to be weaponized against them via some Parscale ad making.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 02:45 PM (hYcqw)
In the meantime, all the former GOPe "heavyweights" who counseled the likes of McCain and Rhombley will sputter and protest that their ideas will sweep the leg of the Trump campaign.
45 This is just *aching* to be weaponized against them via some Parscale ad making.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 02:45 PM (hYcqw)
In the meantime, all the former GOPe "heavyweights" who counseled the likes of McCain and Rhombley will sputter and protest that their ideas will sweep the leg of the Trump campaign.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 26, 2020 02:50 PM (pNxlR)
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If the Democrats succeed in bailing out liberal states under cover of crisis mitigation, that could actually start the shooting war.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 26, 2020 02:50 PM (sWM8x)
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The fact that Democrats have admitted this -- and Politico has published their admission -- will not, however, stop the media from claiming that it's a "conspiracy theory" to say the Democrats want to keep critical parts of the country locked down to depress the economy.
Just keep the yankee states locked down. To the point of crippling them.
MAYBE the people will get fed up and quit voting dems back in.
Just keep the yankee states locked down. To the point of crippling them.
MAYBE the people will get fed up and quit voting dems back in.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 26, 2020 02:50 PM (Ol/Jg)
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Democrats also want the economy to tank so the unemployed will look to them for handouts.
Posted by: waelse1 at May 26, 2020 02:50 PM (Z3AkO)
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One of the best predictors of voting patterns is mask wearing, or non-mask wearing.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 26, 2020 02:50 PM (Hcsoi)
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I get Dems not wanting the economy to recover while PDT is PDT.
But why all of a sudden is the ecomonic news good? When for the past couple months all bad? I'd love it to be true, but I'm not popping any corks. Especially since I'm unemployed and my sis just got laid off.
But why all of a sudden is the ecomonic news good? When for the past couple months all bad? I'd love it to be true, but I'm not popping any corks. Especially since I'm unemployed and my sis just got laid off.
Posted by: Hands at May 26, 2020 02:51 PM (786Ro)
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One possible brake on the economy: finding workers. Many are doing better on unemployment than if they returned to their jobs.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2020 02:46 PM (mht8P)
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I think there might be enough people with two brain cells to rub together to make this less dire than predicted. Time will tell, but this is a *very* stupid strategy.
The economic damage done is real and deep. If you have the opportunity to get back to work, you should do it immediately even if it means taking a "pay cut" from the temporarily-juiced UI payment. And since the economic damage is real and unemployment is going to hand on for some time (maybe a longish time), fortune will not favor those who wait since the jobs won't be there anymore when they get around to it - and the UI payout is going to be smaller after nine months or so than if they had gone and gotten a job when they were able to.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2020 02:46 PM (mht8P)
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I think there might be enough people with two brain cells to rub together to make this less dire than predicted. Time will tell, but this is a *very* stupid strategy.
The economic damage done is real and deep. If you have the opportunity to get back to work, you should do it immediately even if it means taking a "pay cut" from the temporarily-juiced UI payment. And since the economic damage is real and unemployment is going to hand on for some time (maybe a longish time), fortune will not favor those who wait since the jobs won't be there anymore when they get around to it - and the UI payout is going to be smaller after nine months or so than if they had gone and gotten a job when they were able to.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 02:51 PM (hYcqw)
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Id LOVE to know who that advisor is.... VALJAR.... cough cough cough
Id LOVE to know who that advisor is.... VALJAR.... cough cough cough
Posted by: fixerupper at May 26, 2020 02:51 PM (nw6Hr)
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It is a possibility the economy could start moving fairly quickly. The shutdown was completely artificial, unlike the normal business cycle. Removing that might get things rolling far faster than many expect, especially if the Trump administration has continued cutting regulations like it had been before.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - A Scold for All Seasons - The Karen Chronicles Volume II now available at The Outrage Ou at May 26, 2020 02:51 PM (joYrR)
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This is no joke. They honestly are terrified that this will happen and I damned well guarantee that if everything is busted wide open, the next week the economy will explode because millions of people want to go back to work and hundreds of thousands of businesses are desperate to re open and get rolling again.
And on top of that, tens of millions of consumers are desperate to get out and shop and eat and travel again. Explode is the right word.
So the Dems have to delay this as much as possible -- or, if any way conceivable, prevent the opening entirely. That's why the 9th circus made their imbecilic decision with the CA lawsuit, and why I think the Oregon Supreme Court will impossibly decide that somehow the governor can keep the lockdown going after 28 days without consulting the legislature even though that's exactly what the Oregon constitution plainly says.
It doesn't matter if this stuff gets overturned, as long as it takes long enough for it to be overturned. They are playing defense now, trying to extend the damage as late as possible so the recovery is too late to help the president in the election.
And on top of that, tens of millions of consumers are desperate to get out and shop and eat and travel again. Explode is the right word.
So the Dems have to delay this as much as possible -- or, if any way conceivable, prevent the opening entirely. That's why the 9th circus made their imbecilic decision with the CA lawsuit, and why I think the Oregon Supreme Court will impossibly decide that somehow the governor can keep the lockdown going after 28 days without consulting the legislature even though that's exactly what the Oregon constitution plainly says.
It doesn't matter if this stuff gets overturned, as long as it takes long enough for it to be overturned. They are playing defense now, trying to extend the damage as late as possible so the recovery is too late to help the president in the election.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 02:51 PM (KZzsI)
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9 How are black people supposed to think?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has saved 2 million people since January at May 26, 2020 02:41 PM (5p/zy)
In the manner and within the narrow limitations prescribed to them by old, rich, white, out-of-touch leftists.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has saved 2 million people since January at May 26, 2020 02:41 PM (5p/zy)
In the manner and within the narrow limitations prescribed to them by old, rich, white, out-of-touch leftists.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 26, 2020 02:51 PM (NWiLs)
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The economic contraction was artificially produced. There was no underlying problem to be resolved, so when people begin to move normally, much of what we lost will be able to come back quickly.
The economy will be damaged, because some businesses will not be able to take two months of zero income vs. liabilities, but there is no economic reason why the contraction won't reverse quickly, and THAT's what they're worried about-- Trump going into an election with an obviously recovering economy.
The economy will be damaged, because some businesses will not be able to take two months of zero income vs. liabilities, but there is no economic reason why the contraction won't reverse quickly, and THAT's what they're worried about-- Trump going into an election with an obviously recovering economy.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 26, 2020 02:52 PM (oVJmc)
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V-shaped recovery. Bring it on!
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 26, 2020 02:52 PM (k4dH2)
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>>> 52 46 someone needs to explain to me the difference between leftists' desires for this country and an erstwhile enemy's desires for this country, say China
because from where I'm standing, they pretty much intersect.
Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at May 26, 2020 02:45 PM (uS2EJ)
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Who's in charge?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 02:46 PM (LvTSG)
Who's in charge of a school of fish? But the fish manage to change directions as a group when trying to get away from a shark, and I think a bunch of fish are smarter than a bunch ofjournalists reporters stenographers.
because from where I'm standing, they pretty much intersect.
Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at May 26, 2020 02:45 PM (uS2EJ)
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Who's in charge?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 02:46 PM (LvTSG)
Who's in charge of a school of fish? But the fish manage to change directions as a group when trying to get away from a shark, and I think a bunch of fish are smarter than a bunch of
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 26, 2020 02:52 PM (0ReGO)
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Ace,
Check out the Minneapolis police brutality that just killed a dude.
Remove line feeds:
https://mobile.twitter.com
/LawrenceBJones3/status/
1265346599154339840
This is bad. Real bad.
Check out the Minneapolis police brutality that just killed a dude.
Remove line feeds:
https://mobile.twitter.com
/LawrenceBJones3/status/
1265346599154339840
This is bad. Real bad.
Posted by: BifBewalski at May 26, 2020 02:52 PM (7l4+G)
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Per Ann Coulter I just checked Goucher College SAT scores. She think Jonah Goldberg is provably stupid and as a rough approximation she cited Goucher's SAT numbers as a piece of evidence.
Yup, she's right. If Jonah was a brighter than average Goucher guy, he was probably someplace in the 1100-1200 range.
Yup, she's right. If Jonah was a brighter than average Goucher guy, he was probably someplace in the 1100-1200 range.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 26, 2020 02:52 PM (NVYyb)
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88 V-shaped recovery. Bring it on!
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 26, 2020 02:52 PM (k4dH2)
Like the opposite of a FUPA...
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 26, 2020 02:52 PM (k4dH2)
Like the opposite of a FUPA...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 26, 2020 02:52 PM (s2VJv)
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"We are about to see the best economic data we've seen in the history of this country," he said.
And this is what has them worried? That people might recover and do well and be able to provide for their families? Think about that. Good news to them would mean everyone fails. I do not recognize these people. They certainly aren't my countrymen.
And this is what has them worried? That people might recover and do well and be able to provide for their families? Think about that. Good news to them would mean everyone fails. I do not recognize these people. They certainly aren't my countrymen.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 26, 2020 02:52 PM (lwiT4)
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What Gives Democrats Nightmares Is the Possibility That the Economy Will Start Growing if the Nation Is Reopened
The economy BETTER start growing or we are screwed.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 26, 2020 02:48 PM
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Dems better realize that the economy better start growing. They need to look at some history, I recommend starting with Sarajevo, 1914.
The economy BETTER start growing or we are screwed.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 26, 2020 02:48 PM
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Dems better realize that the economy better start growing. They need to look at some history, I recommend starting with Sarajevo, 1914.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 26, 2020 02:52 PM (axyOa)
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I don't see how we get record numbers if the freedom is still limited.
Run your restaurant at 40% capacity? Restaurants barely make money at full capacity. They're not going to be booming back they're going to be dying more slowly.
The only thing open here is the supermarket and it does not have capacity limits. People have learned to give each other six feet.
We got to open wide, nationwide, in remastered 70 mm.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2020 02:44 PM
Let's not forget the things that have already been destroyed this year and cannot be regained.
Sports leagues have all been shut down for the past 2 months. That is two months of local restaurants, bars, sports bars, hotels, airline industry etc. not getting the business they counted on related to sporting events.
Concerts, local festivities, weddings, etc. all cancelled the past 2 months and for the foreseeable future. More events that restaurants, bars, sports bars, hotels, airline industry etc. were counting on for revenue this year.
Sports leagues? Sure, there MIGHT be games, but no fans allowed in stadiums and arenas. And fans only allowed at 50% capacity at restaurants and bars and sports bars.
And that's just businesses related to sports and concerts. And that's just the businesses that are still around now and haven't already folded due to the last 2 months of not meeting revenue expectations and not being able to plan for the future, because no one has any idea when things will re-open 100% and when customers will be back 100%.
I don't see record numbers happening. You don't recover from the worst crash in history within 1 quarter.
MAYBE if you flipped a switch and everything went right back to fully open, no restrictions at all. Maybe.
But with restrictions likely still in place "until there is a vaccine" as Whitmer has in her "6-Phase Plan to Re-Open"... not gonna happen.
But... I hope I am wrong.
I don't see how we get record numbers if the freedom is still limited.
Run your restaurant at 40% capacity? Restaurants barely make money at full capacity. They're not going to be booming back they're going to be dying more slowly.
The only thing open here is the supermarket and it does not have capacity limits. People have learned to give each other six feet.
We got to open wide, nationwide, in remastered 70 mm.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2020 02:44 PM
Let's not forget the things that have already been destroyed this year and cannot be regained.
Sports leagues have all been shut down for the past 2 months. That is two months of local restaurants, bars, sports bars, hotels, airline industry etc. not getting the business they counted on related to sporting events.
Concerts, local festivities, weddings, etc. all cancelled the past 2 months and for the foreseeable future. More events that restaurants, bars, sports bars, hotels, airline industry etc. were counting on for revenue this year.
Sports leagues? Sure, there MIGHT be games, but no fans allowed in stadiums and arenas. And fans only allowed at 50% capacity at restaurants and bars and sports bars.
And that's just businesses related to sports and concerts. And that's just the businesses that are still around now and haven't already folded due to the last 2 months of not meeting revenue expectations and not being able to plan for the future, because no one has any idea when things will re-open 100% and when customers will be back 100%.
I don't see record numbers happening. You don't recover from the worst crash in history within 1 quarter.
MAYBE if you flipped a switch and everything went right back to fully open, no restrictions at all. Maybe.
But with restrictions likely still in place "until there is a vaccine" as Whitmer has in her "6-Phase Plan to Re-Open"... not gonna happen.
But... I hope I am wrong.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 26, 2020 02:53 PM (Do5/p)
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Well, I suppose plan B in the event of a major economic rebound will be to return to claiming that we are experiencing "Obama's Economy."
Posted by: Alec Leamas at May 26, 2020 02:50 PM (ssz2a)
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Oh. Yeah.... EXCELLENT point.
"If the economy rebounds AGAIN under Donald Trump, is it still Obama's recovery???"
Posted by: Alec Leamas at May 26, 2020 02:50 PM (ssz2a)
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Oh. Yeah.... EXCELLENT point.
"If the economy rebounds AGAIN under Donald Trump, is it still Obama's recovery???"
Posted by: fixerupper at May 26, 2020 02:53 PM (nw6Hr)
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Consumer sentiment will increase as the panic subsides. That in turn will drive higher capital spending by businesses and hiring.
The key is to get people feeling safe in spending money.
The key is to get people feeling safe in spending money.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 26, 2020 02:53 PM (+b1ew)
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especially if the Trump administration has continued cutting regulations like it had been before.
He's accelerated it. And just signed the previous cuts into permanent condition (at least, until the next president puts them back). The problems are manifold though. Over 100,000 small businesses have closed forever. Congress is bound and determined to throw more money at people who let's face it, many of whom would rather stay home and draw a check than go to work.
He's accelerated it. And just signed the previous cuts into permanent condition (at least, until the next president puts them back). The problems are manifold though. Over 100,000 small businesses have closed forever. Congress is bound and determined to throw more money at people who let's face it, many of whom would rather stay home and draw a check than go to work.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 02:53 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 26, 2020 02:53 PM (s2VJv)
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I got that $600 Pelosi cash one week, it should never have been started. It was a bribe to stay out of work as long as you can.
Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2020 02:54 PM (ZCEU2)
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IIRC Treasury Secretary Mnuchin recently encouraged employers to call the local unemployment offices if the employers recalled laid-off employees and the employees refused to return to work.
Posted by: mrp at May 26, 2020 02:54 PM (Pqytn)
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I think Sleepy Joe is missing a great opportunity to unify the Democrats this fall.
He should ask ALL of the Lockdown Governors to run as co-VPs on his ticket - Coromo, Hitlerina, Wolf, Murphy, Northam - the whole HeeHaw gang. That way, they can all resign so that they can focus on running for CoVeep.
If it saves just one life....
He should ask ALL of the Lockdown Governors to run as co-VPs on his ticket - Coromo, Hitlerina, Wolf, Murphy, Northam - the whole HeeHaw gang. That way, they can all resign so that they can focus on running for CoVeep.
If it saves just one life....
Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 26, 2020 02:54 PM (wtvvX)
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One possible brake on the economy: finding workers. Many are doing better on unemployment than if they returned to their jobs.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2020 02:46 PM (mht8P)
Bonus unemployment going away in July, plus a proposal has been out forth to give "Go back to work" bonuses...say $450 a week for a brief period, plus a tax withholding holiday. Larry Kudlow interview.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2020 02:46 PM (mht8P)
Bonus unemployment going away in July, plus a proposal has been out forth to give "Go back to work" bonuses...say $450 a week for a brief period, plus a tax withholding holiday. Larry Kudlow interview.
Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home&&&& at May 26, 2020 02:54 PM (l+SH7)
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One possible brake on the economy: finding workers. Many are doing better on unemployment than if they returned to their jobs.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2020 02:46 PM (mht8P)
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BS talking point. The federal supplement ($600 a week) to state unemployment expires at end of July. Plus many states that I know of (like my own) have their unemployment system set up so that if you are offered a job and you don't take it without cause (i.e., you don't have to move to take a job, for example), then you lose your *state* unemployment benefits. So, I'm pretty sure that would apply to the supplement too, as you have to be receiving state unemployment to get it.
tbh, given the trauma of the shut down even for those of us who kept working and earning, I'm okay with people who didn't have that kind of stability receiving a short term increase than what they would have gotten without the supplement.
One possible brake on the economy: finding workers. Many are doing better on unemployment than if they returned to their jobs.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2020 02:46 PM (mht8P)
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BS talking point. The federal supplement ($600 a week) to state unemployment expires at end of July. Plus many states that I know of (like my own) have their unemployment system set up so that if you are offered a job and you don't take it without cause (i.e., you don't have to move to take a job, for example), then you lose your *state* unemployment benefits. So, I'm pretty sure that would apply to the supplement too, as you have to be receiving state unemployment to get it.
tbh, given the trauma of the shut down even for those of us who kept working and earning, I'm okay with people who didn't have that kind of stability receiving a short term increase than what they would have gotten without the supplement.
Posted by: Venus at May 26, 2020 02:54 PM (iYXhj)
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102 I think Sleepy Joe is missing a great opportunity to unify the Democrats this fall.
He should ask ALL of the Lockdown Governors to run as co-VPs on his ticket - Coromo, Hitlerina, Wolf, Murphy, Northam - the whole HeeHaw gang. That way, they can all resign so that they can focus on running for CoVeep.
If it saves just one life....
Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 26, 2020 02:54 PM (wtvvX)
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There you go.
Unify the party by having every faction of the party nominated as co-president.
That'll fix it!
He should ask ALL of the Lockdown Governors to run as co-VPs on his ticket - Coromo, Hitlerina, Wolf, Murphy, Northam - the whole HeeHaw gang. That way, they can all resign so that they can focus on running for CoVeep.
If it saves just one life....
Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 26, 2020 02:54 PM (wtvvX)
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There you go.
Unify the party by having every faction of the party nominated as co-president.
That'll fix it!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 02:55 PM (LvTSG)
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You don't have to scroll down very far in the Twitter feed of any of #TeamLockdown to get to the Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Yes, it's all political and it's right there in our faces.
Yes, it's all political and it's right there in our faces.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 26, 2020 02:55 PM (+7yf7)
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There IS a path to electoral victory out of this, I think Trump is stumbling his way towards it, helped by the fact that the Dems are actively cheerleading the country's destruction.
I would caution not to pay much attention to the DJIA - that is more a feature of how much loose cash has been pumped into the system, it had nowhere else to go. It is completely disconnected to the real economy now, and THAT is our real problem, the one we have to address.
And the reason I point this out is so that all of us know we have to work on the RIGHT things, the effective things, not just sit back and think we're doing good because we fake-pumped the markets back up.
JOBS are the name of the game - right now, there's still a possiblity that we could be north of 20% unemployment on Election day, and that could be a disaster. We can NOT sit back and just hope that jobs will magically show up; a lot of the old economy is gone forever (travel, tourism, etc) and it's not coming back. Those jobs have to be replaced with NEW jobs. There's a great potential for some of those jobs to come from Manufacturing, brought back here from where it's been sent by the globalists
But that is going to take a HUGE amount of effort for there to be any impact by November, and we need to start formulating those specific plans *now*. We don't have any time to waste.
I would caution not to pay much attention to the DJIA - that is more a feature of how much loose cash has been pumped into the system, it had nowhere else to go. It is completely disconnected to the real economy now, and THAT is our real problem, the one we have to address.
And the reason I point this out is so that all of us know we have to work on the RIGHT things, the effective things, not just sit back and think we're doing good because we fake-pumped the markets back up.
JOBS are the name of the game - right now, there's still a possiblity that we could be north of 20% unemployment on Election day, and that could be a disaster. We can NOT sit back and just hope that jobs will magically show up; a lot of the old economy is gone forever (travel, tourism, etc) and it's not coming back. Those jobs have to be replaced with NEW jobs. There's a great potential for some of those jobs to come from Manufacturing, brought back here from where it's been sent by the globalists
But that is going to take a HUGE amount of effort for there to be any impact by November, and we need to start formulating those specific plans *now*. We don't have any time to waste.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2020 02:55 PM (Kpl3J)
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80. Don't be so sure. Christian impulse to politely wear the mask (indoors) to reassure the timid and possibly prevent making someone sick while being an 'asymptomatic carrier' It certainly should not be a christian impulse to vote for the party of 39th week abortions, deliberately sending disease spreaders into nursing homes etc.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 26, 2020 02:56 PM (T9Hmo)
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JC Penny May be going bankrupt but they know how to advertise. Very nice torso to thigh shots for ladies panties. Oh and some tighty whitey briefs too. But the ladies.....
Posted by: Buzzion at May 26, 2020 02:56 PM (G2zl5)
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But with restrictions likely still in place "until there is a vaccine" as Whitmer has in her "6-Phase Plan to Re-Open"... not gonna happen.
But... I hope I am wrong.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 26, 2020 02:53 PM (Do5/p)
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Which is why they have such phased plans based on future developments that can't be guaranteed.
But they will probably not be able to pull it off. People are increasingly ignoring the rules and it can't be managed. The only play is to try to elongate it and keep running #twoWeeks campaigns until they can't anymore because no one is complying. The question becomes, "can they pull it off for long enough to make the pain run for long enough that recovery becomes unlikely or impossible in any reasonable time frame?"
And to that question my answer is, "I don't know."
But... I hope I am wrong.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 26, 2020 02:53 PM (Do5/p)
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Which is why they have such phased plans based on future developments that can't be guaranteed.
But they will probably not be able to pull it off. People are increasingly ignoring the rules and it can't be managed. The only play is to try to elongate it and keep running #twoWeeks campaigns until they can't anymore because no one is complying. The question becomes, "can they pull it off for long enough to make the pain run for long enough that recovery becomes unlikely or impossible in any reasonable time frame?"
And to that question my answer is, "I don't know."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 02:56 PM (hYcqw)
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One possible brake on the economy: finding workers. Many are doing better on unemployment than if they returned to their jobs.
I am concerned about that as well, but... unemployment offices have been really lax about the rules (you have to look for work etc) because you know, no jobs and its against the rules to look for work, etc. If things open up completely, well its game on again with all the rules.
Plus, unless they are monumental retards -- always a possibility with the GOP -- congress will not keep the double unemployment benefits going forever.
I am concerned about that as well, but... unemployment offices have been really lax about the rules (you have to look for work etc) because you know, no jobs and its against the rules to look for work, etc. If things open up completely, well its game on again with all the rules.
Plus, unless they are monumental retards -- always a possibility with the GOP -- congress will not keep the double unemployment benefits going forever.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 02:56 PM (KZzsI)
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Vermont has started back earlier than most, and I have no idea how this will scale to the rest of the country, but in the consulting engineering end we are as busy as we were before the kung flu shutdown. There is a distinct possibility that I'm overbooked into the fall, and I actually turned down a project last week. Not at all what I expected back in March.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 26, 2020 02:56 PM (a8p8j)
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I don't see airlines, hotels, Disney, or rental car companies picking up soon - too many Nancys are going to cancel travel plans. But, every other industry ought to be picking up rapidly.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 26, 2020 02:56 PM (Hcsoi)
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Don't see how Trump is turning anything into anything.
He greatly assisted in unleashing the economy, and reversing key int'l trends, with very little help from "his" party or of course Congress.
The economy will no do what it does when not suppressed, with the added fuel of the helpful changes Trump helped usher in.
He didn't "maneuver" anyone, everyone followed their own path on their own initiative, including governors, the federal system is/was not a stunt or a preference, it's how things work and how authorities are based and apart from special emergency funding how $$ are raised and allocated.
And if anything, if we could get any actual full record of what's been going on, it will likely show Trump failing to follow the learning curve fast enough WRT the virus situation. The "phased re-opening" nonsense was indefensible on a scientific basis in its own right, and was ludicrously inappropriate when applied to almost all states and regions.
Reportedly (again, we have tiny scraps of unconfirmed info, for the most part) Trump called DeSantis to slow him down on his re-opening program, and he openly/mildly chided whatshisname in GA. Neither move showed any departure from the nearly uniformly wrong advice provided by CDC up to that time.
Trump was in fine re-election position before, during, and now after the "crisis". For many reasons.
Only new thing, and as usual it's a dark/negative one, is further illustration of how it's not a country, just people living around each other - the indifference of the very large segment for whom little has changed financially all through this to the significant sectors that have been body-slammed.
Not me - don't care. Doesn't affect me within 24 hours - don't understand, don't really care. I'm OK. Oh - too bad about those people, whoever they are. A new low in lack of citizenship.
He greatly assisted in unleashing the economy, and reversing key int'l trends, with very little help from "his" party or of course Congress.
The economy will no do what it does when not suppressed, with the added fuel of the helpful changes Trump helped usher in.
He didn't "maneuver" anyone, everyone followed their own path on their own initiative, including governors, the federal system is/was not a stunt or a preference, it's how things work and how authorities are based and apart from special emergency funding how $$ are raised and allocated.
And if anything, if we could get any actual full record of what's been going on, it will likely show Trump failing to follow the learning curve fast enough WRT the virus situation. The "phased re-opening" nonsense was indefensible on a scientific basis in its own right, and was ludicrously inappropriate when applied to almost all states and regions.
Reportedly (again, we have tiny scraps of unconfirmed info, for the most part) Trump called DeSantis to slow him down on his re-opening program, and he openly/mildly chided whatshisname in GA. Neither move showed any departure from the nearly uniformly wrong advice provided by CDC up to that time.
Trump was in fine re-election position before, during, and now after the "crisis". For many reasons.
Only new thing, and as usual it's a dark/negative one, is further illustration of how it's not a country, just people living around each other - the indifference of the very large segment for whom little has changed financially all through this to the significant sectors that have been body-slammed.
Not me - don't care. Doesn't affect me within 24 hours - don't understand, don't really care. I'm OK. Oh - too bad about those people, whoever they are. A new low in lack of citizenship.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2020 02:57 PM (El6T/)
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The economy will be damaged, because some businesses will not be able to take two months of zero income vs. liabilities, but there is no economic reason why the contraction won't reverse quickly, and THAT's what they're worried about-- Trump going into an election with an obviously recovering economy.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 26, 2020 02:52 PM (oVJmc)
Yeah, but realistically, if you asked me five minutes ago or even now: I would say it is very unlikely that you can turn the economy back on as easy as it was to shut down.
The thing is, I cannot think of an event in history to mirror this one. No natural disaster or war that completely shut down the economy of a country with no other issue. Maybe the Flood? And who knows how the economy in the family recovered there.
If people were dying in the streets, we would have to absorb the economic damage of their experience and manpower being lost, but there isn't any of that.
This is new ground.
Huh. I guess we can say we got that going for us.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 26, 2020 02:52 PM (oVJmc)
Yeah, but realistically, if you asked me five minutes ago or even now: I would say it is very unlikely that you can turn the economy back on as easy as it was to shut down.
The thing is, I cannot think of an event in history to mirror this one. No natural disaster or war that completely shut down the economy of a country with no other issue. Maybe the Flood? And who knows how the economy in the family recovered there.
If people were dying in the streets, we would have to absorb the economic damage of their experience and manpower being lost, but there isn't any of that.
This is new ground.
Huh. I guess we can say we got that going for us.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 26, 2020 02:57 PM (YaiCw)
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Any road to recovery starts with opening states back up. Trump isn't 'stumbling' towards that. He's demanding it, loudly.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 26, 2020 02:57 PM (+b1ew)
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I don't see record numbers happening. You don't recover from the worst crash in history within 1 quarter.
MAYBE if you flipped a switch and everything went right back to fully open, no restrictions at all. Maybe.
But with restrictions likely still in place "until there is a vaccine" as Whitmer has in her "6-Phase Plan to Re-Open"... not gonna happen.
But... I hope I am wrong.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 26, 2020 02:53 PM (Do5/p)
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In an absolute numbers, you're right but GDP is compared to previous quarter. So the third quarter, in relation to the second quarter, has the potential for a good result.
MAYBE if you flipped a switch and everything went right back to fully open, no restrictions at all. Maybe.
But with restrictions likely still in place "until there is a vaccine" as Whitmer has in her "6-Phase Plan to Re-Open"... not gonna happen.
But... I hope I am wrong.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 26, 2020 02:53 PM (Do5/p)
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In an absolute numbers, you're right but GDP is compared to previous quarter. So the third quarter, in relation to the second quarter, has the potential for a good result.
Posted by: WisRich at May 26, 2020 02:57 PM (G0vdT)
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But with restrictions likely still in place "until there is a vaccine" as Whitmer has in her "6-Phase Plan to Re-Open"... not gonna happen. .
Wait until neighboring states start eating them for lunch. Eventually they're going to give up on the Biden farce and start attending to their own re-elections. You can be sure they'll be patting themselves on the back for controlling the virus so well that they're able to fully re-open.
Wait until neighboring states start eating them for lunch. Eventually they're going to give up on the Biden farce and start attending to their own re-elections. You can be sure they'll be patting themselves on the back for controlling the virus so well that they're able to fully re-open.
Posted by: t-bird at May 26, 2020 02:57 PM (DMQdU)
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Democratic politicians are strangling the American economy in broad daylight and with constant press, and the American people are going to punish...Donald Trump for that?
especially when all of us in EvilDemGovernor states like PA get to watch our awful leaders live every single day of this...
and you can see the little sparkle in Wolf's eye as he hurts us, over and over. He is LOVING destroying our state. it's unmistakeable, it's visceral.
especially when all of us in EvilDemGovernor states like PA get to watch our awful leaders live every single day of this...
and you can see the little sparkle in Wolf's eye as he hurts us, over and over. He is LOVING destroying our state. it's unmistakeable, it's visceral.
Posted by: HostageBlackOrchid at May 26, 2020 02:58 PM (j9HX3)
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Check out the Minneapolis police brutality that just killed a dude.
Remove line feeds:
https://mobile.twitter.com
/LawrenceBJones3/status/
1265346599154339840
This is bad. Real bad.
Posted by: BifBewalski at May 26, 2020 02:52 PM (7l4+G)
That IS bad.
We don't know the whole story, of course, but there's resisting arrest, then there's whatever the fuck THAT is. The guy didn't seem to be moving much.
Remove line feeds:
https://mobile.twitter.com
/LawrenceBJones3/status/
1265346599154339840
This is bad. Real bad.
Posted by: BifBewalski at May 26, 2020 02:52 PM (7l4+G)
That IS bad.
We don't know the whole story, of course, but there's resisting arrest, then there's whatever the fuck THAT is. The guy didn't seem to be moving much.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 26, 2020 02:58 PM (Zz0t1)
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One possible brake on the economy: finding workers. Many are doing better on unemployment than if they returned to their jobs.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
They "flipped" a switch to open the tap.
They can flip that switch to turn it off.
When their company offers work and they decline, off unemployment they go and the company doesn't hire them back.
That would only take happening 100 times or so and work would get out.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
They "flipped" a switch to open the tap.
They can flip that switch to turn it off.
When their company offers work and they decline, off unemployment they go and the company doesn't hire them back.
That would only take happening 100 times or so and work would get out.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 26, 2020 02:58 PM (Ol/Jg)
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Irish Democracy at work.
Posted by: Regular joe at May 26, 2020 02:58 PM (L9P9s)
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This is bad. Real bad.
Posted by: BifBewalski at May 26, 2020 02:52 PM (7l4+G)
Holy shit, that's fucking awful.
Posted by: BifBewalski at May 26, 2020 02:52 PM (7l4+G)
Holy shit, that's fucking awful.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Mask-less at May 26, 2020 02:59 PM (x8Wzq)
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115 The thing is, I cannot think of an event in history to mirror this one. No natural disaster or war that completely shut down the economy of a country with no other issue. Maybe the Flood? And who knows how the economy in the family recovered there.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 26, 2020 02:57 PM (YaiCw)
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General William Hull giving up Detroit to an inferior force in the War of 1812 because he was scared of their drums.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 26, 2020 02:57 PM (YaiCw)
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General William Hull giving up Detroit to an inferior force in the War of 1812 because he was scared of their drums.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 02:59 PM (LvTSG)
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My guess would be that they will try to say that the structure the Messiah left in place economically was so stupendously strong (Green Shoots!) that even the epic bungler Trump could not destroy it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 26, 2020 02:59 PM (YaiCw)
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Predictions unchanged -
*more/less v-shaped recovery, most sectors
*"phased" re-openings mostly crumbling under the weight of their lacking any scientific basis, with additional decay from court rulings and (possibly) federal pressure
*more/less v-shaped recovery, most sectors
*"phased" re-openings mostly crumbling under the weight of their lacking any scientific basis, with additional decay from court rulings and (possibly) federal pressure
Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2020 02:59 PM (El6T/)
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Tom Wolf is a fucking asshole.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 26, 2020 02:59 PM (TvI/0)
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Creepy/ Sleepy Joe must have crawled out of his basement, picture at LI he is outside with a diper on his face.
Posted by: Skip at May 26, 2020 02:59 PM (ZCEU2)
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The thing is, I cannot think of an event in history to mirror this one.
If people were dying in the streets, we would have to absorb the economic damage of their experience and manpower being lost, but there isn't any of that.
This is new ground.
In a lot of ways we're in new territory. We've never been this far in debt before. We've never had a party deliberately attempting to destroy the entire planet's economy this completely in the name of winning power. We've never been this close to a national DNA database required by federal law.
If people were dying in the streets, we would have to absorb the economic damage of their experience and manpower being lost, but there isn't any of that.
This is new ground.
In a lot of ways we're in new territory. We've never been this far in debt before. We've never had a party deliberately attempting to destroy the entire planet's economy this completely in the name of winning power. We've never been this close to a national DNA database required by federal law.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 02:59 PM (KZzsI)
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67 Stock market up 670 at the moment...
Posted by: gdgm+ at May 26, 2020 02:39 PM (ExnWy)
The market is not the economy.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 26, 2020 02:48 PM (z79tQ)
True, but it's a measure of investor sentiment/ expectations about the future performance of the economy.
Posted by: gdgm+ at May 26, 2020 02:39 PM (ExnWy)
The market is not the economy.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 26, 2020 02:48 PM (z79tQ)
True, but it's a measure of investor sentiment/ expectations about the future performance of the economy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 26, 2020 03:00 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 26, 2020 03:00 PM (mht8P)
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I think federal supplemental unemployment $$ end in July.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2020 03:00 PM (El6T/)
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Yeah, but realistically, if you asked me five minutes ago or even now: I would say it is very unlikely that you can turn the economy back on as easy as it was to shut down.
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Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 26, 2020 02:57 PM (YaiCw)
++++++++++++
Relevant:
https://youtu.be/ccByiRfEHJk
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Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 26, 2020 02:57 PM (YaiCw)
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Relevant:
https://youtu.be/ccByiRfEHJk
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 03:00 PM (hYcqw)
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But with restrictions likely still in place "until there is a vaccine" as Whitmer has in her "6-Phase Plan to Re-Open"... not gonna happen. .
Wait until neighboring states start eating them for lunch. Eventually they're going to give up on the Biden farce and start attending to their own re-elections. You can be sure they'll be patting themselves on the back for controlling the virus so well that they're able to fully re-open.
Posted by: t-bird at May 26, 2020 02:57
Which state would that be with the exception of Indiana? Dipshit DeWine is opening but it's still ridiculous. Illinois? Ha! Wisconsin? Again the governor there is probably doing everything possible even after getting smacked down and then claimed to cry uncle.
Wait until neighboring states start eating them for lunch. Eventually they're going to give up on the Biden farce and start attending to their own re-elections. You can be sure they'll be patting themselves on the back for controlling the virus so well that they're able to fully re-open.
Posted by: t-bird at May 26, 2020 02:57
Which state would that be with the exception of Indiana? Dipshit DeWine is opening but it's still ridiculous. Illinois? Ha! Wisconsin? Again the governor there is probably doing everything possible even after getting smacked down and then claimed to cry uncle.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 26, 2020 03:00 PM (G2zl5)
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Like H1B crap, and illegal's having jobs, and trade deficits, and bringing manufacturing back to the US.
Question is, will the GOP allow the reset?
This is Not Who We Are
Question is, will the GOP allow the reset?
This is Not Who We Are
Posted by: Chamber of Commerce at May 26, 2020 03:00 PM (cG+eD)
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We want the economy to suk so we can beat Trump? Yes, we all knew this.
Same as we all knew "You ain't black" is what all white liberals really THINK, but nobody but Biden actually SAYS.
I'm temped to subscribe to Investor's Business Daily online, "IBD," just to escape from the 'orangemanbad-ism' of the establishment financial press. Problem is, it's pretty costly, & you can get the same info for free at CNBC & Marketwatch--- if you can stomach their anti-Trump bullzh*t.
Same as we all knew "You ain't black" is what all white liberals really THINK, but nobody but Biden actually SAYS.
I'm temped to subscribe to Investor's Business Daily online, "IBD," just to escape from the 'orangemanbad-ism' of the establishment financial press. Problem is, it's pretty costly, & you can get the same info for free at CNBC & Marketwatch--- if you can stomach their anti-Trump bullzh*t.
Posted by: mnw at May 26, 2020 03:01 PM (Cssks)
137
Let's see...which to choose from today?
Posted by: That guy with unlimited shocked faces at May 26, 2020 03:01 PM (EgshT)
138
I kinda appreciate the honesty for once.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 26, 2020 03:01 PM (kiC/Z)
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"phased" re-openings mostly crumbling under the weight of their lacking any scientific basis, with additional decay from court rulings and (possibly) federal pressure
And more than a little civil disobedience. It snowballs, people just say "you know what? Screw this" and go to the store. Its already happening, you can see it all around you. Everyone is just going back to normal regardless of the restrictions.
And more than a little civil disobedience. It snowballs, people just say "you know what? Screw this" and go to the store. Its already happening, you can see it all around you. Everyone is just going back to normal regardless of the restrictions.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:01 PM (KZzsI)
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General William Hull giving up Detroit to an inferior force in the War of 1812 because he was scared of their drums.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 02:59 PM (LvTSG)
So THAT'S why leftists love drum circles. They're hoping for a repeat performance.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 02:59 PM (LvTSG)
So THAT'S why leftists love drum circles. They're hoping for a repeat performance.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 26, 2020 03:02 PM (YqDXo)
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There is a lot of pent-up demand out here in my little corner of the world. I have seen it for the last week and a half, since WI reopened. Illinois people are speeding over the border past my house (which I do not appreciate, but understand.) They are coming here to get haircuts, to eat in a restaurant, to go to a bar, to go to the beach. The beach isn't cheap, either. Ten bucks a pop. Family of five, that adds up with concessions and all. There is no getting through downtown now because of all the Illinois plates. People want goods and services, and they want them yesterday.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 26, 2020 03:02 PM (lwiT4)
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And that's just businesses related to sports and concerts. And that's
just the businesses that are still around now and haven't already folded
due to the last 2 months of not meeting revenue expectations and not
being able to plan for the future, because no one has any idea when
things will re-open 100% and when customers will be back 100%.
I don't see record numbers happening. You don't recover from the worst crash in history within 1 quarter.
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If the economy plunges 50%, but then grows 100% you get back to the same spot. That's not what is going to happen, but let's just say the economy plunged 25%, growing 10% is reasonable. That is amazing growth, but you are obviously still way behind. But the story that can be told is the economy is growing.
As for sports leagues, their contraction has little effect on the overall economy.
just the businesses that are still around now and haven't already folded
due to the last 2 months of not meeting revenue expectations and not
being able to plan for the future, because no one has any idea when
things will re-open 100% and when customers will be back 100%.
I don't see record numbers happening. You don't recover from the worst crash in history within 1 quarter.
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If the economy plunges 50%, but then grows 100% you get back to the same spot. That's not what is going to happen, but let's just say the economy plunged 25%, growing 10% is reasonable. That is amazing growth, but you are obviously still way behind. But the story that can be told is the economy is growing.
As for sports leagues, their contraction has little effect on the overall economy.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:02 PM (sX1BW)
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The best way to think of an Economy, with all of it's variables and it's complexities, is as a Living Things. It reacts, it changes, it grows. It gets sick. It can be killed.
Like any living thing, the killing is much easier than the growing. Killing is fast, growing takes years of effort and the right environment. That's why this is going to take years to recover from.
BUT as long as people think Trump is heading things in the right direction, they'll support him, just like they supported FDR in 1936.
Like any living thing, the killing is much easier than the growing. Killing is fast, growing takes years of effort and the right environment. That's why this is going to take years to recover from.
BUT as long as people think Trump is heading things in the right direction, they'll support him, just like they supported FDR in 1936.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2020 03:02 PM (Kpl3J)
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139 "phased" re-openings mostly crumbling under the weight of their lacking any scientific basis, with additional decay from court rulings and (possibly) federal pressure
And more than a little civil disobedience. It snowballs, people just say "you know what? Screw this" and go to the store. Its already happening, you can see it all around you. Everyone is just going back to normal regardless of the restrictions.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:01 PM (KZzsI)
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So...kinda like Sweden except without the overbearing government response.
And more than a little civil disobedience. It snowballs, people just say "you know what? Screw this" and go to the store. Its already happening, you can see it all around you. Everyone is just going back to normal regardless of the restrictions.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:01 PM (KZzsI)
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So...kinda like Sweden except without the overbearing government response.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 03:02 PM (LvTSG)
145
The Obama admin. idiot stumbled on an obvious correct observation.
The "comps" (comparative figures") between the artificially shut-down economy and the unleashed economy are likely to show %s and magnitudes never before seen - just as on the way down.
Not rocket science.
The "comps" (comparative figures") between the artificially shut-down economy and the unleashed economy are likely to show %s and magnitudes never before seen - just as on the way down.
Not rocket science.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2020 03:02 PM (El6T/)
146
True, but it's a measure of investor sentiment/ expectations about the future performance of the economy.
Its not even that, any more. Its just a measure of how investors anticipate that the stock market will move based on the latest news, indifferent to the economy or the world. Its almost completely self-contained.
Its not even that, any more. Its just a measure of how investors anticipate that the stock market will move based on the latest news, indifferent to the economy or the world. Its almost completely self-contained.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:03 PM (KZzsI)
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"The market is not the economy"? Well, the market is IRAs, & IRAs are sure as hell a major part of the economy.
Posted by: mnw at May 26, 2020 03:03 PM (Cssks)
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Ha! Wisconsin? Again the governor there is probably
doing everything possible even after getting smacked down and then
claimed to cry uncle.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 26, 2020 03:00 PM (G2zl5)
Not really. He said last week it would be pointless to try and put restrictions back in place at this stage of the game.
doing everything possible even after getting smacked down and then
claimed to cry uncle.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 26, 2020 03:00 PM (G2zl5)
Not really. He said last week it would be pointless to try and put restrictions back in place at this stage of the game.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 26, 2020 03:03 PM (lwiT4)
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The phased reopenings allow them the fig leaf of saying they are still in charge.
They are reminding the proles of who is really in power.
What I think the response should be is not good to type out, even if it probably would be helpful in the long run for the most people.
They are reminding the proles of who is really in power.
What I think the response should be is not good to type out, even if it probably would be helpful in the long run for the most people.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 26, 2020 03:03 PM (YaiCw)
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Back from seeing the surgeons, scheduled for my surgery in
*wait for it ... *
#twoweeks !
woohoo!
*wait for it ... *
#twoweeks !
woohoo!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 26, 2020 03:03 PM (cqteU)
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Even re opened, people can make more on UE than $15-20 an hour jobs. Dems knee this when they wrote the bill. They play the long con.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 26, 2020 03:03 PM (kiC/Z)
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147 "The market is not the economy"? Well, the market is IRAs, & IRAs are sure as hell a major part of the economy.
Posted by: mnw at May 26, 2020 03:03 PM (Cssks)
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Most people can't do anything with their 401ks of any stripe other than look at them.
Posted by: mnw at May 26, 2020 03:03 PM (Cssks)
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Most people can't do anything with their 401ks of any stripe other than look at them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 03:04 PM (LvTSG)
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And this is what has them worried? That people might
recover and do well and be able to provide for their families? Think
about that. Good news to them would mean everyone fails. I do not
recognize these people. They certainly aren't my countrymen.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 26, 2020 02:52 PM (lwiT4)
We've reached a point where these people are so demented, everybody is just collateral damage to achieve their final goals. It's a bizarre form of communist revolution, they hope to carry out without firing a shot. But, the results are the same. People die. I'd rather shoot it out and get it over with.
They were this --><-- close in 2016, and they still have the taste in their mouths. We just have to keep thinking they're still the minority - and TBH I think their numbers are shrinking. Whatever they're trying to pull in CA is backfiring.
recover and do well and be able to provide for their families? Think
about that. Good news to them would mean everyone fails. I do not
recognize these people. They certainly aren't my countrymen.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 26, 2020 02:52 PM (lwiT4)
We've reached a point where these people are so demented, everybody is just collateral damage to achieve their final goals. It's a bizarre form of communist revolution, they hope to carry out without firing a shot. But, the results are the same. People die. I'd rather shoot it out and get it over with.
They were this --><-- close in 2016, and they still have the taste in their mouths. We just have to keep thinking they're still the minority - and TBH I think their numbers are shrinking. Whatever they're trying to pull in CA is backfiring.
Posted by: clutch cargo at May 26, 2020 03:04 PM (8B6Ng)
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Wisconsin? Again the governor there is probably doing everything possible even after getting smacked down and then claimed to cry uncle.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 26, 2020 03:00 PM (G2zl5)
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In WI, Ever's threw up his hands and said "I'm out. The results will be on the GOP's head."
So far it's working out for the GOP.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 26, 2020 03:00 PM (G2zl5)
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In WI, Ever's threw up his hands and said "I'm out. The results will be on the GOP's head."
So far it's working out for the GOP.
Posted by: WisRich at May 26, 2020 03:04 PM (G0vdT)
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True, but it's a measure of investor sentiment/ expectations about the future performance of the economy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 26, 2020 03:00 PM (YqDXo)
As of the last 8 weeks, I think it's a measure of how much extra liquidity the Fed is pumping into the banking system. I don't think it has much at all to do with the economy; I think they've become uncoupled.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 26, 2020 03:00 PM (YqDXo)
As of the last 8 weeks, I think it's a measure of how much extra liquidity the Fed is pumping into the banking system. I don't think it has much at all to do with the economy; I think they've become uncoupled.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 26, 2020 03:04 PM (Kpl3J)
156
What we're watching - in real time - is a passive / aggressive socialist revolution.
We won't vote our way out of it.
We won't vote our way out of it.
Posted by: Things Best Not Said at May 26, 2020 03:05 PM (b/6cr)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2020 03:05 PM (gd9RK)
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Like any living thing, the killing is much easier than the growing.
Killing is fast, growing takes years of effort and the right
environment. That's why this is going to take years to recover from.
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And growth is easier in the right environment. Kill more regulations, lower taxes, and you get more growth.
More than anything, what is really needed is Coronavirus immunity.
Killing is fast, growing takes years of effort and the right
environment. That's why this is going to take years to recover from.
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And growth is easier in the right environment. Kill more regulations, lower taxes, and you get more growth.
More than anything, what is really needed is Coronavirus immunity.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:05 PM (sX1BW)
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Non-compliance, and non-enforcement, were a large part of what I called the restrictions "crumbling". Has been happening all along, now substantial in many places.
CA has been a weird hybrid all along. Never the most draconian or hysterical/unscientific Fuhrerbefehlen coming from Sacramento or most counties, comparatively, and from early on, a fairly blase reaction by Newsom to defiance. It started a while ago. In each case Sacramento has just ignored, or gone along with, county "rebellions" (OC beach thing, for a few days, might be only exception).
CA has been a weird hybrid all along. Never the most draconian or hysterical/unscientific Fuhrerbefehlen coming from Sacramento or most counties, comparatively, and from early on, a fairly blase reaction by Newsom to defiance. It started a while ago. In each case Sacramento has just ignored, or gone along with, county "rebellions" (OC beach thing, for a few days, might be only exception).
Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2020 03:05 PM (El6T/)
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Democrats - lifelong dems - here in Philly and SE PA are DEFINITELY voting Trump/R now
come ON! the Dems obviously, and with feeling, took their businesses away. towns around here are gonna die out. we were already barely coming back to life, and now we've spent nine weeks watching Wolf gleefully kill us.
the daily briefings were their first, and biggest, mistake. people SAW the governor. they saw his evil glee, they saw his insane tranny helper, they SAW THE BEAST THAT IS OUR LT GOVERNOR.
it was a freak show, live and in color, EVERY DAY that we all watched, terrified to see who was leading us. plus the spazzed out sign language interpreter! Dear God.
If they can't force mail in voting here, definitely put PA in the RED for November. WE HAVE HAD IT
come ON! the Dems obviously, and with feeling, took their businesses away. towns around here are gonna die out. we were already barely coming back to life, and now we've spent nine weeks watching Wolf gleefully kill us.
the daily briefings were their first, and biggest, mistake. people SAW the governor. they saw his evil glee, they saw his insane tranny helper, they SAW THE BEAST THAT IS OUR LT GOVERNOR.
it was a freak show, live and in color, EVERY DAY that we all watched, terrified to see who was leading us. plus the spazzed out sign language interpreter! Dear God.
If they can't force mail in voting here, definitely put PA in the RED for November. WE HAVE HAD IT
Posted by: HostageBlackOrchid at May 26, 2020 03:05 PM (j9HX3)
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Imagine having nightmares----because the economy is roaring back
Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2020 03:05 PM (CqE5x)
162
I just heard a clip of Lori Leftfoot saying that Chicago has to stay shut down because experts. Just look at what's happened in places like Georgia where they have reopened!!!! umm... the numbers have gone down
I just heard a clip of Lori Leftfoot saying that Chicago has to stay shut down because experts. Just look at what's happened in places like Georgia where they have reopened!!!! umm... the numbers have gone down
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 26, 2020 03:05 PM (LWumb)
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One of the funniest things on Twitter now is watching millennials and zoomers become shocked and horrified that Jimmy Kimmel used blackface for sketches in the past. Like, 30 times. On super popular national TV shows.
I mean I know they are young but this is like finding out that Mister Hilter guy was a bad person. Its not exactly new or shocking.
I mean I know they are young but this is like finding out that Mister Hilter guy was a bad person. Its not exactly new or shocking.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:05 PM (KZzsI)
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The rona is over IMO, hot weather is here, nobody is going to put up with this shit. Donks will have to cave bigly or look like idiots. Even the most stupid of the stupid, Wretchen Whitmer, will have to admit it and salvage what she can. Not even NYC is going to tolerate it. If the UK lacks cases, our cases will fall, too.
Posted by: Nick Sandmann at May 26, 2020 03:06 PM (ONvIw)
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158 Like any living thing, the killing is much easier than the growing.
Killing is fast, growing takes years of effort and the right
environment. That's why this is going to take years to recover from.
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And growth is easier in the right environment. Kill more regulations, lower taxes, and you get more growth.
More than anything, what is really needed is Coronavirus immunity.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:05 PM (sX1BW)
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Go outside at your own risk.
Unless I can star suing stores for every time I get any communicable disease.
Killing is fast, growing takes years of effort and the right
environment. That's why this is going to take years to recover from.
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And growth is easier in the right environment. Kill more regulations, lower taxes, and you get more growth.
More than anything, what is really needed is Coronavirus immunity.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:05 PM (sX1BW)
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Go outside at your own risk.
Unless I can star suing stores for every time I get any communicable disease.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 03:06 PM (LvTSG)
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This is bad. Real bad.
Posted by: BifBewalski at May 26, 2020 02:52 PM (7l4+G)
+++++++++++++++
From what I just watched, there is no way to spin that. What led up to it, I don't know - but they appear to have killed the guy in a show of power to the bystanders.
Posted by: BifBewalski at May 26, 2020 02:52 PM (7l4+G)
+++++++++++++++
From what I just watched, there is no way to spin that. What led up to it, I don't know - but they appear to have killed the guy in a show of power to the bystanders.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 03:06 PM (hYcqw)
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Since Recalls have been made functionally impossible, 4 or 5 Governors need hauled out by a Citizen's Justice Committee and invited to either rescind all their orders, or be publicly executed.
Since Recalls have been made functionally impossible, 4 or 5 Governors need hauled out by a Citizen's Justice Committee and invited to either rescind all their orders, or be publicly executed.
Posted by: Just Sayin at May 26, 2020 03:06 PM (vzKmu)
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In WI, Ever's threw up his hands and said "I'm out. The results will be on the GOP's head."
great leadership there Evers lol
great leadership there Evers lol
Posted by: HostageBlackOrchid at May 26, 2020 03:06 PM (j9HX3)
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What we're watching - in real time - is a passive / aggressive socialist revolution.
We won't vote our way out of it.
Posted by: Things Best Not Said at May 26, 2020 03:05 PM (b/6cr)
As I just said - I wish they'd just pull out the guns, and we'll do the same. Let's get this crap over with, I got places to go and things to do. They just don't have the balls.
We won't vote our way out of it.
Posted by: Things Best Not Said at May 26, 2020 03:05 PM (b/6cr)
As I just said - I wish they'd just pull out the guns, and we'll do the same. Let's get this crap over with, I got places to go and things to do. They just don't have the balls.
Posted by: clutch cargo at May 26, 2020 03:06 PM (8B6Ng)
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I just heard a clip of Lori Leftfoot saying that Chicago has to stay shut down because experts. Just look at what's happened in places like Georgia where they have reopened!!!! umm... the numbers have gone down
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 26, 2020 03:05 PM (LWumb)
Paula, you are ill.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 26, 2020 03:05 PM (LWumb)
Paula, you are ill.
Posted by: Charles Boyer at May 26, 2020 03:06 PM (YaiCw)
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the daily briefings were their first, and biggest, mistake. people SAW the governor. they saw his evil glee, they saw his insane tranny helper, they SAW THE BEAST THAT IS OUR LT GOVERNOR.
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They saw the daily briefings working so well for Cuomo so they figured, why not?
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They saw the daily briefings working so well for Cuomo so they figured, why not?
Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2020 03:07 PM (CqE5x)
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The guy didn't seem to be moving much.
Well, he was dead.
That is very very bad.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2020 03:05 PM (gd9RK)
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Yep. VERY bad.
Im not going to rush to judgement... but It would take a hell of back story with alternate video to change my mind those cops are going to prison.
Well, he was dead.
That is very very bad.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2020 03:05 PM (gd9RK)
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Yep. VERY bad.
Im not going to rush to judgement... but It would take a hell of back story with alternate video to change my mind those cops are going to prison.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 26, 2020 03:07 PM (nw6Hr)
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Since Recalls have been made functionally impossible, 4 or 5 Governors need hauled out by a Citizen's Justice Committee and invited to either rescind all their orders, or be publicly executed.
yeah that's why Wolf is hiding in DC and has been for weeks. you think he's HERE?!?!
yeah that's why Wolf is hiding in DC and has been for weeks. you think he's HERE?!?!
Posted by: HostageBlackOrchid at May 26, 2020 03:07 PM (j9HX3)
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In WI, Ever's threw up his hands and said "I'm out. The results will be on the GOP's head."
So far it's working out for the GOP.
Posted by: WisRich at May 26, 2020 03:04 PM (G0vdT)
Ain't it grand?
So far it's working out for the GOP.
Posted by: WisRich at May 26, 2020 03:04 PM (G0vdT)
Ain't it grand?
Posted by: grammie winger at May 26, 2020 03:07 PM (lwiT4)
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163 One of the funniest things on Twitter now is watching millennials and zoomers become shocked and horrified that Jimmy Kimmel used blackface for sketches in the past. Like, 30 times. On super popular national TV shows.
I mean I know they are young but this is like finding out that Mister Hilter guy was a bad person. Its not exactly new or shocking.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:05 PM (KZzsI)
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Some have discovered that Robert Downey Junior played a dude, disguised as a dude, pretending to be another dude a few years back.
That's gonna be funny.
I mean I know they are young but this is like finding out that Mister Hilter guy was a bad person. Its not exactly new or shocking.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:05 PM (KZzsI)
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Some have discovered that Robert Downey Junior played a dude, disguised as a dude, pretending to be another dude a few years back.
That's gonna be funny.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 03:07 PM (LvTSG)
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123 This is bad. Real bad.
Posted by: BifBewalski at May 26, 2020 02:52 PM (7l4+G)
Holy shit, that's fucking awful.
Fucking disgraceful. The fuzz have pulled off quite the feat of late. Losing the right because of this kind of shit and their jackbooted COVID nonsense.
Posted by: BifBewalski at May 26, 2020 02:52 PM (7l4+G)
Holy shit, that's fucking awful.
Fucking disgraceful. The fuzz have pulled off quite the feat of late. Losing the right because of this kind of shit and their jackbooted COVID nonsense.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 26, 2020 03:07 PM (+7yf7)
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Most people can't do anything with their 401ks of any stripe other than look at them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 03:04 PM (LvTSG)
True, but the people that manage them make a tidy little sum when the funds are on the rise, and many of them use that to build McMansions in Vermont.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 03:04 PM (LvTSG)
True, but the people that manage them make a tidy little sum when the funds are on the rise, and many of them use that to build McMansions in Vermont.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 26, 2020 03:07 PM (a8p8j)
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That's why the 9th circus made their imbecilic decision with the CA lawsuit...
I took a few days off from politics...what was the 9th Circuit decision?
I took a few days off from politics...what was the 9th Circuit decision?
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 26, 2020 03:07 PM (ExV1e)
179
The Democrat governors are falling so beautifully into the trap Trump set for them
Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2020 03:08 PM (CqE5x)
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Go outside at your own risk.
Unless I can star suing stores for every time I get any communicable disease.
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Hey I'm a fan of assumption of risk as much as the next guy, but it is going to be a concern. It will go away eventually, but if that is the reason company's are going to continue to require certain employees wear masks.
Unless I can star suing stores for every time I get any communicable disease.
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Hey I'm a fan of assumption of risk as much as the next guy, but it is going to be a concern. It will go away eventually, but if that is the reason company's are going to continue to require certain employees wear masks.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:08 PM (sX1BW)
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Im not going to rush to judgement... but It would take a hell of back story with alternate video to change my mind those cops are going to prison.
after this quarantine garbage and my own dealing with state cops, I could not possibly care less and hope they all hang
they are NOT good guys
after this quarantine garbage and my own dealing with state cops, I could not possibly care less and hope they all hang
they are NOT good guys
Posted by: HostageBlackOrchid at May 26, 2020 03:08 PM (j9HX3)
182
John Fetterman is a fucking asshole.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 26, 2020 03:08 PM (TvI/0)
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The "comps" (comparative figures") between the artificially shut-down economy and the unleashed economy are likely to show %s and magnitudes never before seen - just as on the way down.
Not rocket science.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2020 03:02 PM (El6T/)
Yep. My guess is that, like bankruptcy, the economy will recover slowly, then suddenly. There will be the first green shoots type of recovery, and then a lot of people will suddenly realize things aren't so bad, actually they're pretty good, in fact they're GREAT (compared to what they were so recently).
At that point, the economy will skyrocket, and I suspect a good proportion of the damage done will be repaired.
Not rocket science.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2020 03:02 PM (El6T/)
Yep. My guess is that, like bankruptcy, the economy will recover slowly, then suddenly. There will be the first green shoots type of recovery, and then a lot of people will suddenly realize things aren't so bad, actually they're pretty good, in fact they're GREAT (compared to what they were so recently).
At that point, the economy will skyrocket, and I suspect a good proportion of the damage done will be repaired.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 26, 2020 03:08 PM (YqDXo)
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More than anything, what is really needed is Coronavirus immunity.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:05 PM (sX1BW)
No, what is needed is a grip on reality. Viruses come and viruses go. SARS the 1st had no dreaded second wave. I know some are praying for it, but I wouldn't bet the farm.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:05 PM (sX1BW)
No, what is needed is a grip on reality. Viruses come and viruses go. SARS the 1st had no dreaded second wave. I know some are praying for it, but I wouldn't bet the farm.
Posted by: Nick Sandmann at May 26, 2020 03:08 PM (ONvIw)
185
"Looking at one's 401k" balance has a lot to do with the voting behavior of the 401k owner, I believe.
Posted by: mnw at May 26, 2020 03:08 PM (Cssks)
186
This is bad. Real bad.
Posted by: BifBewalski at May 26, 2020 02:52 PM (7l4+G)
+++++++++++++++
From what I just watched, there is no way to spin that. What led up
to it, I don't know - but they appear to have killed the guy in a show
of power to the bystanders.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 03:06 PM (hYcqw)
That one cop just standing there picking his nose keeping people away. Yeah, there's no way he could have been doing something like cuffing the suspect, what with all those women asking why they're choking the guy. I could see he was in fear for his life. /sarc
Posted by: BifBewalski at May 26, 2020 02:52 PM (7l4+G)
+++++++++++++++
From what I just watched, there is no way to spin that. What led up
to it, I don't know - but they appear to have killed the guy in a show
of power to the bystanders.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 03:06 PM (hYcqw)
That one cop just standing there picking his nose keeping people away. Yeah, there's no way he could have been doing something like cuffing the suspect, what with all those women asking why they're choking the guy. I could see he was in fear for his life. /sarc
Posted by: clutch cargo at May 26, 2020 03:08 PM (8B6Ng)
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Many sectors have been booming, they'll require zero time to "recover". Many have been just slightly worse/better than average.
None of these areas will "take years to recover".
The oil patch isn't the economy, and cheap (real) energy is the key component for every strong economic expansion of every economy in every country in history. And we have that, and will continue to have it.
None of these areas will "take years to recover".
The oil patch isn't the economy, and cheap (real) energy is the key component for every strong economic expansion of every economy in every country in history. And we have that, and will continue to have it.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2020 03:09 PM (El6T/)
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Ain't it grand?
Posted by: grammie winger at May 26, 2020 03:07 PM (lwiT4)
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It is but I'm still stuck in Milwaukee County.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 26, 2020 03:07 PM (lwiT4)
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It is but I'm still stuck in Milwaukee County.
Posted by: WisRich at May 26, 2020 03:09 PM (G0vdT)
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130 67 Stock market up 670 at the moment...
Posted by: gdgm+ at May 26, 2020 02:39 PM (ExnWy)
The market is not the economy.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 26, 2020 02:48 PM (z79tQ)
True, but it's a measure of investor sentiment/ expectations about the future performance of the economy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 26, 2020 03:00 PM
Wilmington NC beaches were mobbed this weekend. Restaurants and businesses were open. Lots of out-of-state license plates from locked-down states like Virginia and Ohio. On the water, tons of boats with Trump flags reading "TRUMP 2020- NO MORE BULLSHIT". I think the market is reacting to scenes like this, in a state with a Democrat governor no less, that illustrate clearly that the people have had enough.
Posted by: gdgm+ at May 26, 2020 02:39 PM (ExnWy)
The market is not the economy.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 26, 2020 02:48 PM (z79tQ)
True, but it's a measure of investor sentiment/ expectations about the future performance of the economy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 26, 2020 03:00 PM
Wilmington NC beaches were mobbed this weekend. Restaurants and businesses were open. Lots of out-of-state license plates from locked-down states like Virginia and Ohio. On the water, tons of boats with Trump flags reading "TRUMP 2020- NO MORE BULLSHIT". I think the market is reacting to scenes like this, in a state with a Democrat governor no less, that illustrate clearly that the people have had enough.
Posted by: Moonbeam at May 26, 2020 03:09 PM (qe5CM)
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More than anything, what is really needed is Coronavirus immunity.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:05 PM (sX1BW)
No, what is needed is a grip on reality. Viruses come and viruses
go. SARS the 1st had no dreaded second wave. I know some are praying for
it, but I wouldn't bet the farm.
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Yes, but immunity would help too.
More than anything, what is really needed is Coronavirus immunity.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:05 PM (sX1BW)
No, what is needed is a grip on reality. Viruses come and viruses
go. SARS the 1st had no dreaded second wave. I know some are praying for
it, but I wouldn't bet the farm.
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Yes, but immunity would help too.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:09 PM (sX1BW)
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Are we going to see another massive oil shock at the end of this month like we did last month?
I kinda feel like that's not going to be the case.
I kinda feel like that's not going to be the case.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 03:09 PM (LvTSG)
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Of course..... the Machiavelli in me says "stir up race hate right in time to change the Rona narrative".
Thanks MN COPS!!!
Of course..... the Machiavelli in me says "stir up race hate right in time to change the Rona narrative".
Thanks MN COPS!!!
Posted by: fixerupper at May 26, 2020 03:10 PM (nw6Hr)
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179 The Democrat governors are falling so beautifully into the trap Trump set for them
Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2020 03:08 PM (CqE5x)
This.
Trump: "I have the authority to order lock downs."
Dem governors: "No, only WE have that authority!"
Trump: "OK."
Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2020 03:08 PM (CqE5x)
This.
Trump: "I have the authority to order lock downs."
Dem governors: "No, only WE have that authority!"
Trump: "OK."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 26, 2020 03:10 PM (YqDXo)
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That one cop just standing there picking his nose keeping people away. Yeah, there's no way he could have been doing something like cuffing the suspect, what with all those women asking why they're choking the guy. I could see he was in fear for his life. /sarc
Posted by: clutch cargo at May 26, 2020 03:08 PM (8B6Ng)
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Exactly. From the positioning, the cop with his knee on the guy's neck probably could have cuffed him, too - and then pinned him by the shoulders. If he couldn't, then isn't that his partner's job? But no. Better to strut and stare down the people taping you than to make sure your suspect doesn't die by your actions.
Posted by: clutch cargo at May 26, 2020 03:08 PM (8B6Ng)
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Exactly. From the positioning, the cop with his knee on the guy's neck probably could have cuffed him, too - and then pinned him by the shoulders. If he couldn't, then isn't that his partner's job? But no. Better to strut and stare down the people taping you than to make sure your suspect doesn't die by your actions.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 03:10 PM (hYcqw)
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It is but I'm still stuck in Milwaukee County.
Posted by: WisRich at May 26, 2020 03:09 PM (G0vdT)
Oh. Sorry. Maybe MisHum would let you bunk with him. You could shoot bears and stuff.
Posted by: WisRich at May 26, 2020 03:09 PM (G0vdT)
Oh. Sorry. Maybe MisHum would let you bunk with him. You could shoot bears and stuff.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 26, 2020 03:10 PM (lwiT4)
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And Lightfoot says she wants an army of contact tracers in place before Chicago can reopen. She wants $56 million for them. Because the city/state is just swimming in money. Maybe the should rename the city East Berlin.
And Lightfoot says she wants an army of contact tracers in place before Chicago can reopen. She wants $56 million for them. Because the city/state is just swimming in money. Maybe the should rename the city East Berlin.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 26, 2020 03:11 PM (LWumb)
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191 Are we going to see another massive oil shock at the end of this month like we did last month?
I kinda feel like that's not going to be the case.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 03:09 PM (LvTSG)
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There were scheduled production cuts scheduled by the Saudies and maybe some other countries. It looks like they kept their promise.
I kinda feel like that's not going to be the case.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 03:09 PM (LvTSG)
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There were scheduled production cuts scheduled by the Saudies and maybe some other countries. It looks like they kept their promise.
Posted by: WisRich at May 26, 2020 03:11 PM (G0vdT)
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139 And more than a little civil disobedience. It snowballs, people just say "you know what? Screw this" and go to the store. Its already happening, you can see it all around you. Everyone is just going back to normal regardless of the restrictions.
Anecdotal to this: I went down to NC Outer Banks Memorial Day weekend. Despite the large highway sign on the way down saying "Stay Home" from the NC governor, the beaches, stores and restaurants were mobbed. This was in Kitty Hawk - Kill Devil Hills area.
Anecdotal to this: I went down to NC Outer Banks Memorial Day weekend. Despite the large highway sign on the way down saying "Stay Home" from the NC governor, the beaches, stores and restaurants were mobbed. This was in Kitty Hawk - Kill Devil Hills area.
Posted by: Donny Brook at May 26, 2020 03:12 PM (819Go)
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Wilmington NC beaches were mobbed this weekend. Restaurants and businesses were open. Lots of out-of-state license plates from locked-down states like Virginia and Ohio. On the water, tons of boats with Trump flags reading "TRUMP 2020- NO MORE BULLSHIT". I think the market is reacting to scenes like this, in a state with a Democrat governor no less, that illustrate clearly that the people have had enough.
Posted by: Moonbeam at May 26, 2020 03:09 PM (qe5CM)
Beaches are opening up in SoCal right now, after several insurrectional moments recently. People are going out and about, and masks are becoming increasingly infrequent.
People have had enough. Even in California.
Posted by: Moonbeam at May 26, 2020 03:09 PM (qe5CM)
Beaches are opening up in SoCal right now, after several insurrectional moments recently. People are going out and about, and masks are becoming increasingly infrequent.
People have had enough. Even in California.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 26, 2020 03:12 PM (YqDXo)
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RLM's been doing coronavirus themed stuff, especially for their Half in the Bag episodes.
The one released yesterday had Mike and Jay finally leaving the house, and the amount of stuff they threw back and forth at each other (in a halfway of scripted way) seemed to indicate to me that they were sick of the lockdowns.
I assume their soft, default progressives like most who live in the cities in Wisconsin, so if my read is correct, that could be interesting.
The one released yesterday had Mike and Jay finally leaving the house, and the amount of stuff they threw back and forth at each other (in a halfway of scripted way) seemed to indicate to me that they were sick of the lockdowns.
I assume their soft, default progressives like most who live in the cities in Wisconsin, so if my read is correct, that could be interesting.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 03:12 PM (LvTSG)
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All this contract tracing stuff is just a scam to hire more govt. workers. You do contact tracing at the beginning of a pandemic, not at the end when millions of people are already infected.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 26, 2020 03:12 PM (1ISKN)
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More than anything, what is really needed is Coronavirus immunity.
Yes!!! We can't afford to do anything until that happens!!! Stay safe.
Yes!!! We can't afford to do anything until that happens!!! Stay safe.
Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby at May 26, 2020 03:13 PM (EgshT)
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Trump: "I have the authority to order lock downs."
Dem governors: "No, only WE have that authority!"
Trump: "OK."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 26, 2020 03:10 PM (YqDXo)
Not only that, he's been complementing them. The other day he was talking about what a great job Stalin Murphy (D-NJ) has been doing and what a "nice guy" he is.
Murphy's gonna figure he has political capital now--does he keep his mouth shut and help Trump in order to get more shit? ? Or does he attack Trump---and get it back both barrels?
Dem governors: "No, only WE have that authority!"
Trump: "OK."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 26, 2020 03:10 PM (YqDXo)
Not only that, he's been complementing them. The other day he was talking about what a great job Stalin Murphy (D-NJ) has been doing and what a "nice guy" he is.
Murphy's gonna figure he has political capital now--does he keep his mouth shut and help Trump in order to get more shit? ? Or does he attack Trump---and get it back both barrels?
Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2020 03:13 PM (CqE5x)
204
The cops got home safely. That's what's important.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2020 03:13 PM (gd9RK)
205
Exactly. From the positioning, the cop with his knee on the guy's neck probably could have cuffed him, too - and then pinned him by the shoulders. If he couldn't, then isn't that his partner's job? But no. Better to strut and stare down the people taping you than to make sure your suspect doesn't die by your actions.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 03:10 PM (hYcqw)
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Actually, looking at the dude's shoulders, I suspect he is already cuffed. Doesn't mean he'd be easy to get into the cruiser, but it doesn't change what that video looks like.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 03:10 PM (hYcqw)
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Actually, looking at the dude's shoulders, I suspect he is already cuffed. Doesn't mean he'd be easy to get into the cruiser, but it doesn't change what that video looks like.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 03:13 PM (hYcqw)
206
Sigh. Sock fail.
Posted by: A Scold of Karens at May 26, 2020 03:13 PM (EgshT)
207
And Lightfoot says she wants an army of contact tracers in place before Chicago can reopen.
The only reason to live in Chicago is if you live within walking distance of Wrigley Field. Those people, I can understand. Everyone else, including my cousin Karen, can go jump. They voted for her. Live with it.
The only reason to live in Chicago is if you live within walking distance of Wrigley Field. Those people, I can understand. Everyone else, including my cousin Karen, can go jump. They voted for her. Live with it.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 26, 2020 03:13 PM (lwiT4)
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Bonus unemployment going away in July, plus a proposal has been out forth to give "Go back to work" bonuses...say $450 a week for a brief period, plus a tax withholding holiday. Larry Kudlow interview.
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That's bullshit. What about those of us who have been at work the whole fucking time? Where's my $450/week bonus? I sure could use it.
Sorry, I'm not normally greedy like this, but come the fuck on...REALLY? Paying people, no, rewarding them for getting off their damn dead asses when the unemployment runs out? Fuck a duck.
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That's bullshit. What about those of us who have been at work the whole fucking time? Where's my $450/week bonus? I sure could use it.
Sorry, I'm not normally greedy like this, but come the fuck on...REALLY? Paying people, no, rewarding them for getting off their damn dead asses when the unemployment runs out? Fuck a duck.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 26, 2020 03:13 PM (vg8iE)
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Experts.... listening to the science.
New York and California have both opened their beaches, conditionally, based on THE SCIENCE. With opposite policies. I can't remember which is which but one of them lets you go to the beach, distanced, and suntan but not swim, while the other lets you swim but not suntan.
Both insist they are following THE SCIENCE and THE EXPERTS, with opposing policies.
Both would attack you for being against THE SCIENCE and THE EXPERTS for disagreeing.
New York and California have both opened their beaches, conditionally, based on THE SCIENCE. With opposite policies. I can't remember which is which but one of them lets you go to the beach, distanced, and suntan but not swim, while the other lets you swim but not suntan.
Both insist they are following THE SCIENCE and THE EXPERTS, with opposing policies.
Both would attack you for being against THE SCIENCE and THE EXPERTS for disagreeing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:13 PM (KZzsI)
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What concerns me is what the Democrats will try when the plandemic fails. Maybe they will go back to there roots in political bombings and assassinations.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 26, 2020 03:13 PM (apJVd)
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Yes, but immunity would help too.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:09 PM (sX1BW)
But that's not a guarantee, as you know, RNA viruses mutate. The flu shot is a regular fail, we don't have Falsie's HIV vax yet. We can't cower like babies forever worried that we will get what is most dangerous to elderly. Let the elderly lock down if they like. My 96 yo cousin in NYC goes to the store daily, likes to walk a lot. It's not even all elderly. There is no guarantee that another virus won't show up, then what? More lockdown and fucking masks and fear. No thanks
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:09 PM (sX1BW)
But that's not a guarantee, as you know, RNA viruses mutate. The flu shot is a regular fail, we don't have Falsie's HIV vax yet. We can't cower like babies forever worried that we will get what is most dangerous to elderly. Let the elderly lock down if they like. My 96 yo cousin in NYC goes to the store daily, likes to walk a lot. It's not even all elderly. There is no guarantee that another virus won't show up, then what? More lockdown and fucking masks and fear. No thanks
Posted by: Nick Sandmann at May 26, 2020 03:14 PM (ONvIw)
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So I just heard about the Central Park Karen story. Hahahahahahahahaha. Fuck off bitch.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 26, 2020 03:14 PM (kiC/Z)
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And while Leftfoot is sending cops to shut down churches and the lakefront:
Chicago shootings: City has deadliest Memorial Day weekend since 2015
The Memorial Day weekend proved the deadliest in the last four years for the city of Chicago, where 10 people died and 34 were injured in shootings over the long weekend.
I hope they were social distancing and wearing masks during the shootings.
And while Leftfoot is sending cops to shut down churches and the lakefront:
Chicago shootings: City has deadliest Memorial Day weekend since 2015
The Memorial Day weekend proved the deadliest in the last four years for the city of Chicago, where 10 people died and 34 were injured in shootings over the long weekend.
I hope they were social distancing and wearing masks during the shootings.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 26, 2020 03:14 PM (LWumb)
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All this contract tracing stuff is just a scam to hire more govt. workers. You do contact tracing at the beginning of a pandemic, not at the end when millions of people are already infected.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 26, 2020 03:12 PM (1ISKN)
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If only it were just another government make-work scheme. I think the employment aspects of it are *way* secondary. It's about formalizing their panopticon under the auspice of "public health." The extra bodies on the payroll are just icing.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 26, 2020 03:12 PM (1ISKN)
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If only it were just another government make-work scheme. I think the employment aspects of it are *way* secondary. It's about formalizing their panopticon under the auspice of "public health." The extra bodies on the payroll are just icing.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 03:14 PM (hYcqw)
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Murphy's gonna figure he has political capital now--does he keep his mouth shut and help Trump in order to get more shit? ? Or does he attack Trump---and get it back both barrels?
Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2020 03:13 PM (CqE5x)
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Trumps pretty cagey for a ignorant no nothing Nazi isnt he.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2020 03:13 PM (CqE5x)
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Trumps pretty cagey for a ignorant no nothing Nazi isnt he.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 26, 2020 03:14 PM (nw6Hr)
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Here in NV our idiotic Dem Governor has killed our booming economy. Why the Casinos have just bent over and taken it like good little Pete Buttplugs is beyond me.
We turned in to East California so quickly it was hard to adjust. Governor Sisolak is a one termer. No way the Casinos spend any money to re-elect his sorry ass.
Of course, the Republican here are a disaster now.
Too many California transplants came her and have ruined this state.
We turned in to East California so quickly it was hard to adjust. Governor Sisolak is a one termer. No way the Casinos spend any money to re-elect his sorry ass.
Of course, the Republican here are a disaster now.
Too many California transplants came her and have ruined this state.
Posted by: Czech Chick at May 26, 2020 03:14 PM (haWye)
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210 What concerns me is what the Democrats will try when the plandemic fails. Maybe they will go back to there roots in political bombings and assassinations.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 26, 2020 03:13 PM (apJVd)
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Well, remember, Biden's still struggling to unify the party behind him right now.
The activist left's most immediate enemy at the moment isn't Republicans, it's still "moderate" Democrats.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 26, 2020 03:13 PM (apJVd)
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Well, remember, Biden's still struggling to unify the party behind him right now.
The activist left's most immediate enemy at the moment isn't Republicans, it's still "moderate" Democrats.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 03:15 PM (LvTSG)
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Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 03:06 PM (hYcqw)
They crushed the dudes neck. It sounds like he did struggle prior to it but once he was done they should have removed the knee from his throat.
If the arresting officers aren't fired at a minimum.....
They crushed the dudes neck. It sounds like he did struggle prior to it but once he was done they should have removed the knee from his throat.
If the arresting officers aren't fired at a minimum.....
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 26, 2020 03:15 PM (rwAkj)
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Fuck. I work with a guy, master in engineering, civil and environmental. A scientist.
I tell him about Gov. Cuomo and the covid to old folks home stuff. His answer: "never happened."
So very disappointing. Bosses brother no less.
I tell him about Gov. Cuomo and the covid to old folks home stuff. His answer: "never happened."
So very disappointing. Bosses brother no less.
Posted by: nip at May 26, 2020 03:15 PM (Izot6)
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If there are riots over this blatant murder-by-cop, Trump will get an opportunity to calm things down.
And he'll take it.
And he'll take it.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2020 03:15 PM (CqE5x)
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If I were in downtown Minneapolis I'd be getting on my bike and getting the fuck out of Dodge.
Posted by: mr tmz at May 26, 2020 03:15 PM (m/Gc2)
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More than anything, what is really needed is Coronavirus immunity.
Yes!!! We can't afford to do anything until that happens!!! Stay safe.
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Sigh. I didn't say that in the slightest. I said it would hasten the economic growth. And it obviously would. We don't have to like the fact that businesses are making decisions based on lawsuit risks - and not just big businesses - but they are.
Immunity would allow things to return to normalcy much quicker.
Yes!!! We can't afford to do anything until that happens!!! Stay safe.
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Sigh. I didn't say that in the slightest. I said it would hasten the economic growth. And it obviously would. We don't have to like the fact that businesses are making decisions based on lawsuit risks - and not just big businesses - but they are.
Immunity would allow things to return to normalcy much quicker.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:15 PM (sX1BW)
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Bandersnatch, I get the strong impression that all most cops care about any more is making it to their pension.
In SoCal, cops can retire at age 50 at full salary as their pension, for life.
In SoCal, cops can retire at age 50 at full salary as their pension, for life.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2020 03:15 PM (L2ZTs)
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Are we going to see another massive oil shock at the end of this month like we did last month?
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Yes, but in the opposite direction
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Yes, but in the opposite direction
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 26, 2020 03:16 PM (Hcsoi)
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... Both insist they are following THE SCIENCE and THE EXPERTS, with opposing policies.
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Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:13 PM (KZzsI)
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This is as "scientific" as Feng Shui. Practitioners of Feng Shui also claim that they are scientific. But it isn't. It's decorating.
Set up your house and hire some Feng Shui consultants to come optimize it. However many people you call in is the number of different schemes you'll get.
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Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:13 PM (KZzsI)
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This is as "scientific" as Feng Shui. Practitioners of Feng Shui also claim that they are scientific. But it isn't. It's decorating.
Set up your house and hire some Feng Shui consultants to come optimize it. However many people you call in is the number of different schemes you'll get.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 03:16 PM (hYcqw)
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Im not going to rush to judgement... but It would take a hell of back story with alternate video to change my mind those cops are going to prison.
He's cuffed and on the ground, restrained. Its pretty likely he'd been, shall we say, sporty before that but there's nothing, NOTHING that justifies kneeling on someone's neck for seven minutes unless you are trying to kill them.
He's cuffed and on the ground, restrained. Its pretty likely he'd been, shall we say, sporty before that but there's nothing, NOTHING that justifies kneeling on someone's neck for seven minutes unless you are trying to kill them.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:16 PM (KZzsI)
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Fuck. I work with a guy, master in engineering, civil and environmental. A scientist.
I tell him about Gov. Cuomo and the covid to old folks home stuff. His answer: "never happened."
So very disappointing. Bosses brother no less.
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So I guess those NY Health Department edicts in black and white are just phonied up documents? Dan Rather been busy again?
I tell him about Gov. Cuomo and the covid to old folks home stuff. His answer: "never happened."
So very disappointing. Bosses brother no less.
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So I guess those NY Health Department edicts in black and white are just phonied up documents? Dan Rather been busy again?
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 26, 2020 03:16 PM (vg8iE)
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Bandersnatch, I get the strong impression that all most cops care about any more is making it to their pension.
In SoCal, cops can retire at age 50 at full salary as their pension, for life.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2020 03:15 PM (L2ZTs)
BINGO
In SoCal, cops can retire at age 50 at full salary as their pension, for life.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2020 03:15 PM (L2ZTs)
BINGO
Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2020 03:16 PM (CqE5x)
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Coronavirus "immunity" (we're talking about C-19, not the whole other set of such viruses that have long been around, right?) appears likely to be reached at a fairly low thresh-hold, thanks to lots of things, like heterogeneous populations with varying t-cell strength and probably residual background resistance from exposure to other similar viruses etc.
But that's all kind of beside the point.
What's the deadliness of this bug?
Sort of like a close election in a state where various precincts have well-understood voting patterns, "there aren't enough votes" (i.e. deaths in total, and esp. by demographic concentration) left out there to change the outcome of this election: C-19 is very deadly to medically infirm elderly in confined environments, with inadequate care, and with current therapies.
Every phrase there matters.
It is less dangerous to all healthy people under 50 (and possibly 65) than influenza.
Much less dangerous for most of that bulk of the population.
There is no rational basis to do almost *anything* differently with such a virus. Not for 95% of the population, anyway.
But that's all kind of beside the point.
What's the deadliness of this bug?
Sort of like a close election in a state where various precincts have well-understood voting patterns, "there aren't enough votes" (i.e. deaths in total, and esp. by demographic concentration) left out there to change the outcome of this election: C-19 is very deadly to medically infirm elderly in confined environments, with inadequate care, and with current therapies.
Every phrase there matters.
It is less dangerous to all healthy people under 50 (and possibly 65) than influenza.
Much less dangerous for most of that bulk of the population.
There is no rational basis to do almost *anything* differently with such a virus. Not for 95% of the population, anyway.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2020 03:16 PM (El6T/)
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They crushed the dudes neck. It sounds like he did struggle prior to it but once he was done they should have removed the knee from his throat.
If the arresting officers aren't fired at a minimum.....
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 26, 2020 03:15 PM (rwAkj)
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Not good enough. If they wanted to subdue him, he was subdued long before the killed him. Fired ain't good enough if this is what it looks like. Manslaughter is more appropriate.
If the arresting officers aren't fired at a minimum.....
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 26, 2020 03:15 PM (rwAkj)
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Not good enough. If they wanted to subdue him, he was subdued long before the killed him. Fired ain't good enough if this is what it looks like. Manslaughter is more appropriate.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 03:17 PM (hYcqw)
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New York and California have both opened their beaches, conditionally, based on THE SCIENCE. With opposite policies. I can't remember which is which but one of them lets you go to the beach, distanced, and suntan but not swim, while the other lets you swim but not suntan.
Both insist they are following THE SCIENCE and THE EXPERTS, with opposing policies.
Both would attack you for being against THE SCIENCE and THE EXPERTS for disagreeing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:13 PM (KZzsI)
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I posted this earlier bu bears repeating.
Kansas City MO has no beaches, but the city has decided NO POOLS WILL OPEN THIS YEAR AT ALL.
No chlorinated pools. Anywhere.
But..... rivers and lake and ponds.... totes OK to swim in.
BLINDED BY SCIENCE!!
Both insist they are following THE SCIENCE and THE EXPERTS, with opposing policies.
Both would attack you for being against THE SCIENCE and THE EXPERTS for disagreeing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:13 PM (KZzsI)
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I posted this earlier bu bears repeating.
Kansas City MO has no beaches, but the city has decided NO POOLS WILL OPEN THIS YEAR AT ALL.
No chlorinated pools. Anywhere.
But..... rivers and lake and ponds.... totes OK to swim in.
BLINDED BY SCIENCE!!
Posted by: fixerupper at May 26, 2020 03:17 PM (nw6Hr)
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201 All this contract tracing stuff is just a scam to hire more govt. workers. You do contact tracing at the beginning of a pandemic, not at the end when millions of people are already infected.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 26, 2020 03:12 PM (1ISKN)
Chicago shootings: City has deadliest Memorial Day weekend since 2015
The Memorial Day weekend proved the deadliest in the last four years for the city of Chicago, where 10 people died and 34 were injured in shootings over the long weekend.
Now THERE'S a place to hire people to trace other people. Never mind the virus.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 26, 2020 03:12 PM (1ISKN)
Chicago shootings: City has deadliest Memorial Day weekend since 2015
The Memorial Day weekend proved the deadliest in the last four years for the city of Chicago, where 10 people died and 34 were injured in shootings over the long weekend.
Now THERE'S a place to hire people to trace other people. Never mind the virus.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 26, 2020 03:18 PM (YqDXo)
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I see I was not clear on my immunity comment.
I meant legal immunity from COVID claims.
That is my fault.
I meant legal immunity from COVID claims.
That is my fault.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:18 PM (sX1BW)
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Why the Casinos have just bent over and taken it like good little Pete Buttplugs is beyond me.
The mob would have told him to F--- off, and he'd have done it, but these are run by corporations who fear lawsuits and bad publicity.
The mob would have told him to F--- off, and he'd have done it, but these are run by corporations who fear lawsuits and bad publicity.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:18 PM (KZzsI)
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... Kansas City MO has no beaches, but the city has decided NO POOLS WILL OPEN THIS YEAR AT ALL. ...
Posted by: fixerupper at May 26, 2020 03:17 PM (nw6Hr)
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Surely the long-suffering taxpayers of the various recreation districts will receive a refund, yes?
Posted by: fixerupper at May 26, 2020 03:17 PM (nw6Hr)
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Surely the long-suffering taxpayers of the various recreation districts will receive a refund, yes?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 03:18 PM (hYcqw)
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And Lightfoot says she wants an army of contact tracers in place before Chicago can reopen. She wants $56 million for them. Because the city/state is just swimming in money. Maybe the should rename the city East Berlin.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 26, 2020 03:11 PM (LWumb)
Fuck her and her snitch brigades. This is a coronavirus. They don't bother tracing HIV or TB. This isn't anthrax, unless we're being lied to in a very sinister way.
The hysteria needs to go.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 26, 2020 03:11 PM (LWumb)
Fuck her and her snitch brigades. This is a coronavirus. They don't bother tracing HIV or TB. This isn't anthrax, unless we're being lied to in a very sinister way.
The hysteria needs to go.
Posted by: Nick Sandmann at May 26, 2020 03:18 PM (ONvIw)
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All this contract tracing stuff is just a scam to hire more govt. workers. You do contact tracing at the beginning of a pandemic, not at the end when millions of people are already infected.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 26, 2020 03:12 PM (1ISKN)
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If only it were just another government make-work scheme. I think the employment aspects of it are *way* secondary. It's about formalizing their panopticon under the auspice of "public health." The extra bodies on the payroll are just icing.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 03:14 PM (hYcqw)
It's also setting the goal posts further back in order to keep the shut down going.
On to November, boys!
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 26, 2020 03:12 PM (1ISKN)
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If only it were just another government make-work scheme. I think the employment aspects of it are *way* secondary. It's about formalizing their panopticon under the auspice of "public health." The extra bodies on the payroll are just icing.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 03:14 PM (hYcqw)
It's also setting the goal posts further back in order to keep the shut down going.
On to November, boys!
Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2020 03:18 PM (CqE5x)
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I think the market is reacting to scenes like this, in a state with a Democrat governor no less, that illustrate clearly that the people have had enough.
Posted by: Moonbeam at May 26, 2020 03:09 PM (qe5CM)
Beaches are opening up in SoCal right now, after several insurrectional moments recently. People are going out and about, and masks are becoming increasingly infrequent.
People have had enough. Even in California.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 26, 2020 03:12 PM (YqDXo)
Here in the South Bay Area, it looks almost like normal again except for the Karens barking (I've met a few), "face coverings must be worn" signs and floor decals.
Gone are the grocery store lines and empty roads. As I mentioned I'm seeing lots of people in the downtown without face masks and not "social distancing"
It was full on commute traffic Friday. Whatever Newsom and the mayors think they're doing, it ain't working. They're pissing off their base. And in LA it's even more draconian and they're even more pissed off. I want to go to church, I want a freaking haircut.
BTW, I notice all these jerks barking orders at us look well coiffed.
Posted by: Moonbeam at May 26, 2020 03:09 PM (qe5CM)
Beaches are opening up in SoCal right now, after several insurrectional moments recently. People are going out and about, and masks are becoming increasingly infrequent.
People have had enough. Even in California.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 26, 2020 03:12 PM (YqDXo)
Here in the South Bay Area, it looks almost like normal again except for the Karens barking (I've met a few), "face coverings must be worn" signs and floor decals.
Gone are the grocery store lines and empty roads. As I mentioned I'm seeing lots of people in the downtown without face masks and not "social distancing"
It was full on commute traffic Friday. Whatever Newsom and the mayors think they're doing, it ain't working. They're pissing off their base. And in LA it's even more draconian and they're even more pissed off. I want to go to church, I want a freaking haircut.
BTW, I notice all these jerks barking orders at us look well coiffed.
Posted by: clutch cargo at May 26, 2020 03:19 PM (8B6Ng)
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Fuck. I work with a guy, master in engineering, civil and environmental. A scientist.
I tell him about Gov. Cuomo and the covid to old folks home stuff. His answer: "never happened."
So very disappointing. Bosses brother no less.
Posted by: nip at May 26, 2020 03:15 PM (Izot6)
This is my neighbor as well.
"Cuomo ordered infected elderly back into the nursing homes causing massive infection and death in those homes."
"No, that's not TRUE!!!!"
None are more blind than those that refuse to see.
I tell him about Gov. Cuomo and the covid to old folks home stuff. His answer: "never happened."
So very disappointing. Bosses brother no less.
Posted by: nip at May 26, 2020 03:15 PM (Izot6)
This is my neighbor as well.
"Cuomo ordered infected elderly back into the nursing homes causing massive infection and death in those homes."
"No, that's not TRUE!!!!"
None are more blind than those that refuse to see.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 26, 2020 03:19 PM (Zz0t1)
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What should frighten them more is the possibility that the rest of Washington GOP crowd may some day rise to the testicular fortitude of.... Richard Grenell. I'm afraid that's too big of an ask.
Posted by: RustyG at May 26, 2020 03:19 PM (XwsJQ)
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I tell him about Gov. Cuomo and the covid to old folks home stuff. His answer: "never happened."
So very disappointing. Bosses brother no less.
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Wait... wut??
Cuomo is ON VIDEO first defending the order, then blaming Trumps CDC for it.
Incorrectly. But still blaming.
I guess Head Up Your Ass aint just a river in Egypt either.
So very disappointing. Bosses brother no less.
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Wait... wut??
Cuomo is ON VIDEO first defending the order, then blaming Trumps CDC for it.
Incorrectly. But still blaming.
I guess Head Up Your Ass aint just a river in Egypt either.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 26, 2020 03:19 PM (nw6Hr)
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The Left loves a good economy like OJ loved Nicole.
Posted by: ... at May 26, 2020 03:19 PM (HIoDf)
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Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 26, 2020 03:13 PM (vg8iE)
I 100% agree with you. It's sad it's come to this.
I 100% agree with you. It's sad it's come to this.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 26, 2020 03:19 PM (rwAkj)
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I tell him about Gov. Cuomo and the covid to old folks home stuff. His answer: "never happened."
I wonder why he thinks Cuomo is trying to blame Trump for something that never took place. The order to do it is on the internet. Even the New York Times and Huffington Post reported on it (poorly, but it was reported on).
I wonder why he thinks Cuomo is trying to blame Trump for something that never took place. The order to do it is on the internet. Even the New York Times and Huffington Post reported on it (poorly, but it was reported on).
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:20 PM (KZzsI)
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Surely the long-suffering taxpayers of the various recreation districts will receive a refund, yes?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 03:18 PM (hYcqw)
Schools have been closed since mid-March. I'd like a refund on my property taxes.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 03:18 PM (hYcqw)
Schools have been closed since mid-March. I'd like a refund on my property taxes.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 26, 2020 03:20 PM (LWumb)
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I tell him about Gov. Cuomo and the covid to old folks home stuff. His answer: "never happened."
Leftist ideology is religion. No amount of fact will sway them. I have the same issue with a colleague. A brilliant and logically-ordered mind until it comes to politics, then it's all out the window. It never ceases to amaze me.
Leftist ideology is religion. No amount of fact will sway them. I have the same issue with a colleague. A brilliant and logically-ordered mind until it comes to politics, then it's all out the window. It never ceases to amaze me.
Posted by: Eisenhorn at May 26, 2020 03:20 PM (F6tBH)
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nip - there are all kinds of smart, and and all kinds of stupid. Especially with "politics".
And it's not just sad they way the guy you describe is so effectively stupid on this - it's disastrous. It's people like him that constitute most of the problem facing the society.
And it's not just sad they way the guy you describe is so effectively stupid on this - it's disastrous. It's people like him that constitute most of the problem facing the society.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2020 03:20 PM (El6T/)
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I meant legal immunity from COVID claims.
That is my fault.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:18 PM (sX1BW)
That's different. Thanks for clarifying, I thought I was talking to a vaccine or lockdown forever dilettante for a minute.
That is my fault.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:18 PM (sX1BW)
That's different. Thanks for clarifying, I thought I was talking to a vaccine or lockdown forever dilettante for a minute.
Posted by: Nick Sandmann at May 26, 2020 03:20 PM (ONvIw)
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Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 03:17 PM (hYcqw)
I'm saying at a minimum, but yeah, manslaughter seems appropriate.
I'm saying at a minimum, but yeah, manslaughter seems appropriate.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 26, 2020 03:20 PM (rwAkj)
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Anecdata - I had to run some errands today and things were normalish. Home Depot was jammed and maybe 5% of the people were wearing masks. All three drive thru lines at the bank were being used and there was a couple of cars ahead of me at the ATM.
It was right about 1:00 p.m. and all the fast food places hat long lines at the drive thru. Nearly every restaurant had Dine In Now Open signs (we're at 50% capacity open as of this past Friday)
At least down my way, people are DONE.
It was right about 1:00 p.m. and all the fast food places hat long lines at the drive thru. Nearly every restaurant had Dine In Now Open signs (we're at 50% capacity open as of this past Friday)
At least down my way, people are DONE.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 03:20 PM (GbPPJ)
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I admit I have some FB friends who *always* side with cops, no matter what. There's always some "hidden reason" why that suspect had to be beaten to death.
"Well, this person was caught two years ago selling weed!" So in other words, once a criminal, always a criminal and your life is forfeit. Makes perfect sense.
I used to consider myself extremely pro-cop. Now I'm very wary of them. Too many horror stories and too many asshole cops cooperating with the lockdown Stalinists. This experience has really opened my eyes.
"Well, this person was caught two years ago selling weed!" So in other words, once a criminal, always a criminal and your life is forfeit. Makes perfect sense.
I used to consider myself extremely pro-cop. Now I'm very wary of them. Too many horror stories and too many asshole cops cooperating with the lockdown Stalinists. This experience has really opened my eyes.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2020 03:21 PM (L2ZTs)
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A brilliant and logically-ordered mind until it comes to politics, then it's all out the window. It never ceases to amaze me.
We all have blind spots, which of course, we can't see because of the blind thing. I stay up nights sometimes wondering what my own are and how to correct that.
We all have blind spots, which of course, we can't see because of the blind thing. I stay up nights sometimes wondering what my own are and how to correct that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:21 PM (KZzsI)
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Of all the torpedoes aimed at Trump that have circled back to the dems, this is the best:
Media - already layoffs
Hollywood - coming soon
Academia - bloodbath on the way
Nobody is saying, "I can't wait to go back to the movie theater. "
And millions are realizing, "why do I need to pay $50k for degree now?"
Jobs that ain't coming back? Fight for $15 type.
Jobs that are? Manufacturing. Bigly.
Media - already layoffs
Hollywood - coming soon
Academia - bloodbath on the way
Nobody is saying, "I can't wait to go back to the movie theater. "
And millions are realizing, "why do I need to pay $50k for degree now?"
Jobs that ain't coming back? Fight for $15 type.
Jobs that are? Manufacturing. Bigly.
Posted by: RoyalOil at May 26, 2020 03:21 PM (aO8Gd)
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Hey I'm a fan of assumption of risk as much as the next guy, but it is going to be a concern. It will go away eventually, but if that is the reason company's are going to continue to require certain employees wear masks.
I know a company around my neck of the woods which has already stated that any employee whose manager thinks is effective working from home may continue to do so until 2021.
I know a company around my neck of the woods which has already stated that any employee whose manager thinks is effective working from home may continue to do so until 2021.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 26, 2020 03:21 PM (ExV1e)
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240 What should frighten them more is the possibility that the rest of Washington GOP crowd may some day rise to the testicular fortitude of.... Richard Grenell. I'm afraid that's too big of an ask.
America needs the balls of an out-and-proud gay. Physically and metaphorically.
There was a time that this might have been humor, but certainly not now.
America needs the balls of an out-and-proud gay. Physically and metaphorically.
There was a time that this might have been humor, but certainly not now.
Posted by: JEM at May 26, 2020 03:22 PM (8erNz)
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We're pretty much back to normal here in West Texas. The bars reopened this weekend. I've only seen masks on the elderly at the grocery store, and even then not all of them. People are over it. More worried about oil prices than wu flu.
Posted by: brak at May 26, 2020 03:22 PM (cG+eD)
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NO POOLS WILL OPEN THIS YEAR AT ALL.
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So where exactly am I supposed to get my leg hair rubbed and have roaches sit on my lap now?
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So where exactly am I supposed to get my leg hair rubbed and have roaches sit on my lap now?
Posted by: Joe Biden at May 26, 2020 03:22 PM (FZYNt)
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I notice the mail carriers in my town all stopped wearing masks this week. They've all been masked since late March.
Nice. Government workers too, so glad to see it.
Nice. Government workers too, so glad to see it.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 26, 2020 03:22 PM (+7yf7)
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I tell him about Gov. Cuomo and the covid to old folks home stuff. His answer: "never happened."
I wonder why he thinks Cuomo is trying to blame Trump for something that never took place. The order to do it is on the internet. Even the New York Times and Huffington Post reported on it (poorly, but it was reported on).
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:20 PM (KZzsI)
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Point out that Cuomo has killed more New Yorkers than Osama Bin Laden and see what happens.
I wonder why he thinks Cuomo is trying to blame Trump for something that never took place. The order to do it is on the internet. Even the New York Times and Huffington Post reported on it (poorly, but it was reported on).
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:20 PM (KZzsI)
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Point out that Cuomo has killed more New Yorkers than Osama Bin Laden and see what happens.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 26, 2020 03:22 PM (nw6Hr)
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Kansas City MO has no beaches, but the city has decided NO POOLS WILL OPEN THIS YEAR AT ALL.
No chlorinated pools. Anywhere.
But..... rivers and lake and ponds.... totes OK to swim in.
BLINDED BY SCIENCE!!
I bet permits for backyard pools goes through the roof this summer.
No chlorinated pools. Anywhere.
But..... rivers and lake and ponds.... totes OK to swim in.
BLINDED BY SCIENCE!!
I bet permits for backyard pools goes through the roof this summer.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - fighting with a dying hard drive at May 26, 2020 03:22 PM (SchxB)
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Schools have been closed since mid-March. I'd like a refund on my property taxes.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 26, 2020 03:20 PM (LWumb)
Me too, the online "instruction" is an embarrassment. If they continue into the fall, IMO 90% of the teachers should be kicked to the curb. My grandson is getting 45min of teacher time each week...not allowed to ask questions, either. It's bullshit city
Schools have been closed since mid-March. I'd like a refund on my property taxes.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 26, 2020 03:20 PM (LWumb)
Me too, the online "instruction" is an embarrassment. If they continue into the fall, IMO 90% of the teachers should be kicked to the curb. My grandson is getting 45min of teacher time each week...not allowed to ask questions, either. It's bullshit city
Posted by: Nick Sandmann at May 26, 2020 03:22 PM (ONvIw)
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They crushed the dudes neck.
We've sure come a long way from "as long as you're polite, interactions with the police will turn out just fine".
Anybody wanna' give the "keep 'em at 10 and 2, and yes sir and no sir" speech ? Maybe hit up that prayer for all our wonderful law enforcement folks ?
We've sure come a long way from "as long as you're polite, interactions with the police will turn out just fine".
Anybody wanna' give the "keep 'em at 10 and 2, and yes sir and no sir" speech ? Maybe hit up that prayer for all our wonderful law enforcement folks ?
Posted by: Things Best Not Said at May 26, 2020 03:22 PM (b/6cr)
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Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2020 03:21 PM (L2ZTs)
Sadly alot of people on our side still do that but its changing albeit slowly.
Sadly alot of people on our side still do that but its changing albeit slowly.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 26, 2020 03:22 PM (rwAkj)
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The fact that Democrats have admitted this -- and Politico has published their admission -- will not, however, stop the media from claiming that it's a "conspiracy theory" to say the Democrats want to keep critical parts of the country locked down to depress the economy.
Agree with this, so long as you include dipshit RINO hacks like Charlie Baker (MA), Mike DeWine (OH) and Phil Scott (VT) under "Democrats".
Agree with this, so long as you include dipshit RINO hacks like Charlie Baker (MA), Mike DeWine (OH) and Phil Scott (VT) under "Democrats".
Posted by: DocJ at May 26, 2020 03:22 PM (DU2N9)
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Check out the Minneapolis police brutality that just killed a dude.
As someone in the twitter feed pointed out: "This is what they do when they know they are being filmed."
Remember that law I keep quoting 18 USC 242? These 2 assholes violated that law and are eligible for a death sentence under it. The FBI actually is investigating this one.
As someone in the twitter feed pointed out: "This is what they do when they know they are being filmed."
Remember that law I keep quoting 18 USC 242? These 2 assholes violated that law and are eligible for a death sentence under it. The FBI actually is investigating this one.
Posted by: An Observation at May 26, 2020 03:22 PM (MU606)
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So is Nevada another of those states where the urban areas can outvote the rest of the state?
Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 26, 2020 03:23 PM (iTXRQ)
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256 We're pretty much back to normal here in West Texas. The bars reopened this weekend. I've only seen masks on the elderly at the grocery store, and even then not all of them. People are over it. More worried about oil prices than wu flu.
Posted by: brak at May 26, 2020 03:22 PM (cG+eD)
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"This is our plan for turning Texas blue in 2020: We destroy the economy."
"Genius!"
Posted by: brak at May 26, 2020 03:22 PM (cG+eD)
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"This is our plan for turning Texas blue in 2020: We destroy the economy."
"Genius!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 03:23 PM (LvTSG)
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Heh Grenell is spending is last few hours throwing hand grenades.
You should see his letter to Senator Warner. It's a beauty. Story's over at TownHall. Of course, Catherine Herridge is doing the reporting.
Damn, I'm going to miss that guy.
You should see his letter to Senator Warner. It's a beauty. Story's over at TownHall. Of course, Catherine Herridge is doing the reporting.
Damn, I'm going to miss that guy.
Posted by: WisRich at May 26, 2020 03:23 PM (G0vdT)
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Kansas City MO has no beaches, but the city has decided NO POOLS WILL OPEN THIS YEAR AT ALL.
No chlorinated pools. Anywhere.
But..... rivers and lake and ponds.... totes OK to swim in.
BLINDED BY SCIENCE!!
I bet permits for backyard pools goes through the roof this summer.
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They can use their extra $450/week Get-Off-Your-Dead-Ass Bonus to make monthly payments on their new pool.
No chlorinated pools. Anywhere.
But..... rivers and lake and ponds.... totes OK to swim in.
BLINDED BY SCIENCE!!
I bet permits for backyard pools goes through the roof this summer.
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They can use their extra $450/week Get-Off-Your-Dead-Ass Bonus to make monthly payments on their new pool.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 26, 2020 03:23 PM (vg8iE)
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But with restrictions likely still in place "until there is a vaccine" as Whitmer has in her "6-Phase Plan to Re-Open"... not gonna happen. .
Wait until neighboring states start eating them for lunch. Eventually they're going to give up on the Biden farce and start attending to their own re-elections. You can be sure they'll be patting themselves on the back for controlling the virus so well that they're able to fully re-open.
Posted by: t-bird at May 26, 2020 02:57 PM
It does not matter what neighboring states are doing.
I'm not sure if anyone here keeps up with the sporting world, but they are shut down and not opening up for fans this year. At all.
In addition, if the leagues do start up again (still not a certainty), not only will they not have full stadiums and arenas, they will not be playing games in all stadiums and arenas. NBA is talking about playing all games at Disney in Florida. So all those NBA cities where restaurants, bars, sports bars, hotels, airlines depended on people in those cities for revenue for sporting events... not gonna happen.
And that's just the NBA. Same goes for NHL and MLB. MLB last I checked is talking about only holding games in CA and AZ. So all those other MLB cities which usually host games... not gonna happen.
That is a massive amount of revenue that local businesses depend on from sporting events that is now gone for an entire year.
I'm not sure how you survive and/or recover from that.
But with restrictions likely still in place "until there is a vaccine" as Whitmer has in her "6-Phase Plan to Re-Open"... not gonna happen. .
Wait until neighboring states start eating them for lunch. Eventually they're going to give up on the Biden farce and start attending to their own re-elections. You can be sure they'll be patting themselves on the back for controlling the virus so well that they're able to fully re-open.
Posted by: t-bird at May 26, 2020 02:57 PM
It does not matter what neighboring states are doing.
I'm not sure if anyone here keeps up with the sporting world, but they are shut down and not opening up for fans this year. At all.
In addition, if the leagues do start up again (still not a certainty), not only will they not have full stadiums and arenas, they will not be playing games in all stadiums and arenas. NBA is talking about playing all games at Disney in Florida. So all those NBA cities where restaurants, bars, sports bars, hotels, airlines depended on people in those cities for revenue for sporting events... not gonna happen.
And that's just the NBA. Same goes for NHL and MLB. MLB last I checked is talking about only holding games in CA and AZ. So all those other MLB cities which usually host games... not gonna happen.
That is a massive amount of revenue that local businesses depend on from sporting events that is now gone for an entire year.
I'm not sure how you survive and/or recover from that.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 26, 2020 03:23 PM (Do5/p)
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How are black people supposed to think?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has saved 2 million people since January at May 26, 2020 02:41 PM (5p/zy)
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C'mon man, that's so cavalier.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has saved 2 million people since January at May 26, 2020 02:41 PM (5p/zy)
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C'mon man, that's so cavalier.
Posted by: Joey Fingerbang at May 26, 2020 03:23 PM (v0R5T)
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With the ignorant and irrational people being described, who cling bitterly to their fake newz or simple ignorance, there's always the option of just proving them wrong.
But social realities intervene, typically.
And there's often little to work with. "Smart" and "educated" people often are incredibly ignorant, misinformed, and illogical in various areas.
But social realities intervene, typically.
And there's often little to work with. "Smart" and "educated" people often are incredibly ignorant, misinformed, and illogical in various areas.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2020 03:24 PM (El6T/)
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Too many horror stories and too many asshole cops cooperating with the lockdown Stalinists.
FOr me the breaking point was the antifa attacks. Cops were there, they saw what was happening, they did nothing. On purpose. yes they ere probably told to but THEY STILL DID NOTHING as Antifa beat people bloody, destroyed property, burned and looted, and gave a reporter brain damage.
The they arrested the people who fought back.
That was when I realized that the cops, at least enough of them, aren't about justice, law, or order. They're just the enforcement arm of the leftist establishment.
We're in the same place that, say, blacks were in the 1950s. Cops protect whitey and are just thugs to enforce the will of bigots on blacks.
FOr me the breaking point was the antifa attacks. Cops were there, they saw what was happening, they did nothing. On purpose. yes they ere probably told to but THEY STILL DID NOTHING as Antifa beat people bloody, destroyed property, burned and looted, and gave a reporter brain damage.
The they arrested the people who fought back.
That was when I realized that the cops, at least enough of them, aren't about justice, law, or order. They're just the enforcement arm of the leftist establishment.
We're in the same place that, say, blacks were in the 1950s. Cops protect whitey and are just thugs to enforce the will of bigots on blacks.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:24 PM (KZzsI)
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Hey I'm a fan of assumption of risk as much as the next guy, but it is going to be a concern. It will go away eventually, but if that is the reason company's are going to continue to require certain employees wear masks.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:08 PM (sX1BW)
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My company is doing two big things on this front:
1) Anyone who wants to continue working from home may do so. If you want to come in, you may do so subject to certain requirements (like wearing masks in public areas).
2. If you're sick. At all. So much as a tickle in your nose, you may not come to work. If you want to work, you may do so from home.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:08 PM (sX1BW)
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My company is doing two big things on this front:
1) Anyone who wants to continue working from home may do so. If you want to come in, you may do so subject to certain requirements (like wearing masks in public areas).
2. If you're sick. At all. So much as a tickle in your nose, you may not come to work. If you want to work, you may do so from home.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 03:24 PM (hYcqw)
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I used to consider myself extremely pro-cop. Now I'm very wary of them. Too many horror stories and too many asshole cops cooperating with the lockdown Stalinists. This experience has really opened my eyes.
I'm still pro-cop--although with many more reservations than I used to have--but this is just blatant murder.
Even most cops don't like this shit--because it makes them look bad.
I used to consider myself extremely pro-cop. Now I'm very wary of them. Too many horror stories and too many asshole cops cooperating with the lockdown Stalinists. This experience has really opened my eyes.
I'm still pro-cop--although with many more reservations than I used to have--but this is just blatant murder.
Even most cops don't like this shit--because it makes them look bad.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2020 03:24 PM (CqE5x)
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Posted by: Things Best Not Said at May 26, 2020 03:22 PM (b/6cr)
It's awful that I feel the way I do about cops now.
It's awful that I feel the way I do about cops now.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 26, 2020 03:24 PM (rwAkj)
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272 With the ignorant and irrational people being described, who cling bitterly to their fake newz or simple ignorance, there's always the option of just proving them wrong.
But social realities intervene, typically.
And there's often little to work with. "Smart" and "educated" people often are incredibly ignorant, misinformed, and illogical in various areas.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2020 03:24 PM (El6T/)
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I don't know...I hear that Paul Krugman won a Nobel Prize in the category of "Everything Ever".
But social realities intervene, typically.
And there's often little to work with. "Smart" and "educated" people often are incredibly ignorant, misinformed, and illogical in various areas.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 26, 2020 03:24 PM (El6T/)
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I don't know...I hear that Paul Krugman won a Nobel Prize in the category of "Everything Ever".
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 03:24 PM (LvTSG)
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The FBI actually is investigating this one.
Posted by: An Observation at May 26, 2020 03:22 PM (MU606)
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Oh. The FBI is involved? Thank goodness those straight-shooters are investivating.
Posted by: An Observation at May 26, 2020 03:22 PM (MU606)
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Oh. The FBI is involved? Thank goodness those straight-shooters are investivating.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 03:24 PM (hYcqw)
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Fixerupper is that just Kansas City or all of Jackson county?
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 26, 2020 03:25 PM (dUJdY)
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Kansas City MO has no beaches, but the city has decided NO POOLS WILL OPEN THIS YEAR AT ALL.
What do you want to bet the lunatic crazy lib governor that Kansas elected is pushing the regulation that makes that a requirement.
Play stupid games...
What do you want to bet the lunatic crazy lib governor that Kansas elected is pushing the regulation that makes that a requirement.
Play stupid games...
Posted by: DocJ at May 26, 2020 03:25 PM (DU2N9)
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251
"Well, this person was caught two years ago selling weed!" So in other words, once a criminal, always a criminal and your life is forfeit. Makes perfect sense.
It's like the guy killed by the vigilantes after checking out the construction site.
"Well, he was arrested 15 years ago for bringing a gun to a High School football game."
Uh huh. And they all conveniently forgot their 2A support while spewing that.
"Well, this person was caught two years ago selling weed!" So in other words, once a criminal, always a criminal and your life is forfeit. Makes perfect sense.
It's like the guy killed by the vigilantes after checking out the construction site.
"Well, he was arrested 15 years ago for bringing a gun to a High School football game."
Uh huh. And they all conveniently forgot their 2A support while spewing that.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 26, 2020 03:25 PM (+7yf7)
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Union Teacher: Class... what did we learn while we were on lock down and learning from home??
Class: *twenty hands shoot up
There are only TWO genders!!
Joe Biden is and IDIOT and touches people.
The Media are liars!!
TRUMP 2020 is a SHOE IN!!
Union Teacher: Class... what did we learn while we were on lock down and learning from home??
Class: *twenty hands shoot up
There are only TWO genders!!
Joe Biden is and IDIOT and touches people.
The Media are liars!!
TRUMP 2020 is a SHOE IN!!
Posted by: fixerupper at May 26, 2020 03:25 PM (nw6Hr)
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14...
have vote by mail and all the fraud that goes with it. It's for our own good.
Posted by: brak at May 26, 2020 02:42 PM (cG+eD)
I happened to turn the radio on while in the car yesterday. Heard the insatiably power-hungry Speaker Pelosi say millions of dollars needed for vote by mail, absolutely necessary for the preservation of our democracy.
I wanted to do something not nice.
have vote by mail and all the fraud that goes with it. It's for our own good.
Posted by: brak at May 26, 2020 02:42 PM (cG+eD)
I happened to turn the radio on while in the car yesterday. Heard the insatiably power-hungry Speaker Pelosi say millions of dollars needed for vote by mail, absolutely necessary for the preservation of our democracy.
I wanted to do something not nice.
Posted by: Flyover at May 26, 2020 03:25 PM (Rbu5d)
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268 Heh Grenell is spending is last few hours throwing hand grenades.
You should see his letter to Senator Warner. It's a beauty. Story's over at TownHall. Of course, Catherine Herridge is doing the reporting.
Damn, I'm going to miss that guy.
Posted by: WisRich at May 26, 2020 03:23 PM (G0vdT)
I am loathe to predict things, having been sorely disappointed in the past too many times. But Grenell could be a stellar candidate in '24 and beyond. If he doesn't get Paul RINO'd.
You should see his letter to Senator Warner. It's a beauty. Story's over at TownHall. Of course, Catherine Herridge is doing the reporting.
Damn, I'm going to miss that guy.
Posted by: WisRich at May 26, 2020 03:23 PM (G0vdT)
I am loathe to predict things, having been sorely disappointed in the past too many times. But Grenell could be a stellar candidate in '24 and beyond. If he doesn't get Paul RINO'd.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 26, 2020 03:25 PM (s2VJv)
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JoeF., that's fair.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2020 03:25 PM (L2ZTs)
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Cops stand down when they should use force ( see Antifa) and go overboard when they think no one is looking.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2020 03:25 PM (CqE5x)
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Point out that Cuomo has killed more New Yorkers than Osama Bin Laden and see what happens.
Cuomo killed more people than died in most states in the Union from this crud. On purpose.
Cuomo killed more people than died in most states in the Union from this crud. On purpose.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:25 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 26, 2020 03:25 PM (rwAkj)
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Check out the Minneapolis police brutality that just killed a dude.
Remove line feeds:
https://mobile.twitter.com
/LawrenceBJones3/status/
1265346599154339840
This is bad. Real bad.
Posted by: BifBewalski at May 26, 2020 02:52 PM (7l4+G)
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Manslaughter at best.
The words depraved indifference come to mind.
Remove line feeds:
https://mobile.twitter.com
/LawrenceBJones3/status/
1265346599154339840
This is bad. Real bad.
Posted by: BifBewalski at May 26, 2020 02:52 PM (7l4+G)
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Manslaughter at best.
The words depraved indifference come to mind.
Posted by: Darth Randall at May 26, 2020 03:26 PM (bCXQn)
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Larry Kudlow, head of the White House National Economic Council, replied in a text message when asked about Furman's analysis. "Q3 may be
the single best GDP quarter since regular data. 2nd half super big
growth, transitioning to 4 per cent or more in 2021."
These comments from Kudlow are really hopeful. From his mouth to...
the single best GDP quarter since regular data. 2nd half super big
growth, transitioning to 4 per cent or more in 2021."
These comments from Kudlow are really hopeful. From his mouth to...
Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 26, 2020 03:26 PM (NVYyb)
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A fair number of Mayors need invited out onto the front lawn to either reconsider their positions or be executed as well.
A fair number of Mayors need invited out onto the front lawn to either reconsider their positions or be executed as well.
Posted by: Just Sayin at May 26, 2020 03:26 PM (vzKmu)
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The FBI actually is investigating this one.
Posted by: An Observation at May 26, 2020 03:22 PM (MU606)
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Out of passing curiosity, why? How is this a federal matter? State police makes perfect sense, but what is the FBI's jurisdiction?
Posted by: An Observation at May 26, 2020 03:22 PM (MU606)
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Out of passing curiosity, why? How is this a federal matter? State police makes perfect sense, but what is the FBI's jurisdiction?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 03:26 PM (hYcqw)
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Oh. The FBI is involved? Thank goodness those straight-shooters are investivating.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 03:24 PM (hYcqw)
How sad is it that THAT is a sarcastic statement in 2020?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 03:24 PM (hYcqw)
How sad is it that THAT is a sarcastic statement in 2020?
Posted by: clutch cargo at May 26, 2020 03:26 PM (8B6Ng)
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off, Covington socklet
Posted by: CN at May 26, 2020 03:26 PM (ONvIw)
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Kansas City MO has no beaches, but the city has decided NO POOLS WILL OPEN THIS YEAR AT ALL.
What do you want to bet the lunatic crazy lib governor that Kansas elected is pushing the regulation that makes that a requirement.
Play stupid games...
Posted by: DocJ at May 26, 2020 03:25 PM (DU2N9)
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*squints*
Where do you get the idea that Kansas Cit MO is in Kansas?? CNN??
What do you want to bet the lunatic crazy lib governor that Kansas elected is pushing the regulation that makes that a requirement.
Play stupid games...
Posted by: DocJ at May 26, 2020 03:25 PM (DU2N9)
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*squints*
Where do you get the idea that Kansas Cit MO is in Kansas?? CNN??
Posted by: fixerupper at May 26, 2020 03:26 PM (nw6Hr)
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Posted by: An Observation at May 26, 2020 03:22 PM (MU606)
I'm unfamiliar with what you've cited.
I'm unfamiliar with what you've cited.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 26, 2020 03:26 PM (rwAkj)
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I know a company around my neck of the woods which has already stated that any employee whose manager thinks is effective working from home may continue to do so until 2021.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 26, 2020 03:21 PM (ExV1e)
Corporate real estate is going to be a blood bath. It appears the promise of working from home is finally being realized. Companies are going to wonder why they are paying the overhead for office space when those costs can be dumped on the employees. Employees are realizing, hey, that commute and those costs for child care and lunches and all the rest of it are not worth it.
The people living in the high cost urban areas are wondering why they should be paying $3,500 a month for a 1/6th share of an apartment when they are working from home and all those wonderful urban amenities are gone and they realized they never really used them in the first place.
It's going to be very interesting to see what happens.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 26, 2020 03:21 PM (ExV1e)
Corporate real estate is going to be a blood bath. It appears the promise of working from home is finally being realized. Companies are going to wonder why they are paying the overhead for office space when those costs can be dumped on the employees. Employees are realizing, hey, that commute and those costs for child care and lunches and all the rest of it are not worth it.
The people living in the high cost urban areas are wondering why they should be paying $3,500 a month for a 1/6th share of an apartment when they are working from home and all those wonderful urban amenities are gone and they realized they never really used them in the first place.
It's going to be very interesting to see what happens.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 03:27 PM (GbPPJ)
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I tell him about Gov. Cuomo and the covid to old folks home stuff. His answer: "never happened."
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Show him the end of today's Bongino Show on youtube. Dan shows the order with Quomo's name on it.
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Show him the end of today's Bongino Show on youtube. Dan shows the order with Quomo's name on it.
Posted by: An Observation at May 26, 2020 03:27 PM (MU606)
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but what is the FBI's jurisdiction?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 03:26 PM (hYcqw)
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.... violation of civil rights.
but what is the FBI's jurisdiction?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 03:26 PM (hYcqw)
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.... violation of civil rights.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 26, 2020 03:27 PM (nw6Hr)
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 26, 2020 03:27 PM (rwAkj)
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not allowed to ask questions, either. It's bullshit city
This is how "new math" was "taught" in elementary school, and I admit to being math illiterate to this day.
This is how "new math" was "taught" in elementary school, and I admit to being math illiterate to this day.
Posted by: banned and chet flake at May 26, 2020 03:27 PM (0Soqf)
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I believe it.
Governor Whitmer reopened businesses in the Upper Penninsula and Traverse City, but not Grand Rapids (our conservative, business powerhouse) nor counties with fewer confirmed cases (let alone deaths) than her vacation spot of choice.
This is going to backfire. People who normally aren't politically focused, let alone conspiracy theorists, have started saying she dragged her feet in 2019 on declaring an emergency in flooded areas around Lake St. Clair and Harsons Island last year because it went big for Trump. They've got time on their hands now and are sending me emails and forwarding conservative bon mots like I've never seen.
Governor Whitmer reopened businesses in the Upper Penninsula and Traverse City, but not Grand Rapids (our conservative, business powerhouse) nor counties with fewer confirmed cases (let alone deaths) than her vacation spot of choice.
This is going to backfire. People who normally aren't politically focused, let alone conspiracy theorists, have started saying she dragged her feet in 2019 on declaring an emergency in flooded areas around Lake St. Clair and Harsons Island last year because it went big for Trump. They've got time on their hands now and are sending me emails and forwarding conservative bon mots like I've never seen.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 26, 2020 03:27 PM (/+bwe)
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*squints*
Where do you get the idea that Kansas Cit MO is in Kansas?? CNN??
Posted by: fixerupper at May 26, 2020 03:26 PM (nw6Hr)
*reads the text again*
*walks away sheepishly, tail dragging*
Where do you get the idea that Kansas Cit MO is in Kansas?? CNN??
Posted by: fixerupper at May 26, 2020 03:26 PM (nw6Hr)
*reads the text again*
*walks away sheepishly, tail dragging*
Posted by: DocJ at May 26, 2020 03:28 PM (DU2N9)
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The thing is, every interaction I have had with police has been polite, calm, and reasonable. And I believe that in most circumstances, with most cops, if you act reasonably and politely, they will respond the same way.
But... its becoming increasingly clear that when we aren't in those circumstances, they will not decide on the side of justice, truth, and law, but on the side of their bosses who are politicians and lefties.
But... its becoming increasingly clear that when we aren't in those circumstances, they will not decide on the side of justice, truth, and law, but on the side of their bosses who are politicians and lefties.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:28 PM (KZzsI)
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Point out that Cuomo has killed more New Yorkers than Osama Bin Laden and see what happens.
Cuomo killed more people than died in most states in the Union from this crud. On purpose.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:25 PM (KZzsI)
I'd also add that the media is complicit at this point. Can you imagine if a republican gov had done that, and 3 people died?
Cuomo killed more people than died in most states in the Union from this crud. On purpose.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:25 PM (KZzsI)
I'd also add that the media is complicit at this point. Can you imagine if a republican gov had done that, and 3 people died?
Posted by: clutch cargo at May 26, 2020 03:28 PM (8B6Ng)
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208-Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 26, 2020 03:13 PM
I have not heard anything about the $450 bonus, but here's what I do know. Employers who applied for and received small business loans have to spend 75% of that money on payroll over the next two years in order to convert the loan to a grant. The clock started ticking as soon as they received the funds, so they are desperate to get the employees back to work ASAP. Most states don't pay that much in unemployment, so it is the extra $600 per week from the feds that is making the difference. Steve Mnuchin has stated that if employers report to (sure which) "authority" that they offered a laid-off employee their job back and the employee refuses, said employee will become ineligible to receive the extra $600. In addition, I have heard that, in recognition of the fact that employers are bidding against the government and therefore powerless in some cases to get their workers back, legislation is being proposed to lower the threshold from 75% to 50%. In the event that the threshold remains at 75%, perhaps Kudlow was suggesting that employers use part of their small business loan to pay those $450 bonuses.
I have not heard anything about the $450 bonus, but here's what I do know. Employers who applied for and received small business loans have to spend 75% of that money on payroll over the next two years in order to convert the loan to a grant. The clock started ticking as soon as they received the funds, so they are desperate to get the employees back to work ASAP. Most states don't pay that much in unemployment, so it is the extra $600 per week from the feds that is making the difference. Steve Mnuchin has stated that if employers report to (sure which) "authority" that they offered a laid-off employee their job back and the employee refuses, said employee will become ineligible to receive the extra $600. In addition, I have heard that, in recognition of the fact that employers are bidding against the government and therefore powerless in some cases to get their workers back, legislation is being proposed to lower the threshold from 75% to 50%. In the event that the threshold remains at 75%, perhaps Kudlow was suggesting that employers use part of their small business loan to pay those $450 bonuses.
Posted by: Moonbeam at May 26, 2020 03:28 PM (qe5CM)
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Fixerupper is that just Kansas City or all of Jackson county?
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 26, 2020 03:25 PM (dUJdY)
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KCMO.... I think.... but.... you know the rules.
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 26, 2020 03:25 PM (dUJdY)
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KCMO.... I think.... but.... you know the rules.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 26, 2020 03:28 PM (nw6Hr)
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Hate crime.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 26, 2020 03:27 PM (rwAkj)
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I'll buy that. There are a couple of exceptions, but cops I have met do seem to hate the people they're policing.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 26, 2020 03:27 PM (rwAkj)
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I'll buy that. There are a couple of exceptions, but cops I have met do seem to hate the people they're policing.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 03:28 PM (hYcqw)
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Where do you get the idea that Kansas Cit MO is in Kansas?? CNN??
This again? It straddles the river, its in two states.
This again? It straddles the river, its in two states.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:29 PM (KZzsI)
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alexthechick, exactly.
Too many bosses just dismissed the possibility of working from home for years, just because they could.
Too many bosses just dismissed the possibility of working from home for years, just because they could.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 26, 2020 03:29 PM (L2ZTs)
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'd also add that the media is complicit at this point. Can you imagine if a republican gov had done that, and 3 people died?
Posted by: clutch cargo at May 26, 2020 03:28 PM (8B6Ng)
He would have already resigned
Posted by: clutch cargo at May 26, 2020 03:28 PM (8B6Ng)
He would have already resigned
Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2020 03:29 PM (CqE5x)
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Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:28 PM (KZzsI)
Same thing for me. I've been pulled over in south Minneapolis multiple times and every event was without issue. In fact I had a cop not cite me and issued a warning.
Same thing for me. I've been pulled over in south Minneapolis multiple times and every event was without issue. In fact I had a cop not cite me and issued a warning.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 26, 2020 03:29 PM (rwAkj)
Posted by: RobertM at May 26, 2020 03:29 PM (lEqw+)
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*reads the text again*
*walks away sheepishly, tail dragging*
Posted by: DocJ at May 26, 2020 03:28 PM (DU2N9)
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Oh stop it.... come back here ya big goof.
*punches shoulder*
*walks away sheepishly, tail dragging*
Posted by: DocJ at May 26, 2020 03:28 PM (DU2N9)
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Oh stop it.... come back here ya big goof.
*punches shoulder*
Posted by: fixerupper at May 26, 2020 03:29 PM (nw6Hr)
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That Biden. I do below is creepy
Posted by: Yo! at May 26, 2020 03:29 PM (q2fym)
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>> Corporate real estate is going to be a blood bath.
It appears the promise of working from home is finally being realized.
Companies are going to wonder why they are paying the overhead for
office space when those costs can be dumped on the employees. Employees
are realizing, hey, that commute and those costs for child care and
lunches and all the rest of it are not worth it.
The people living in the high cost urban areas are wondering why
they should be paying $3,500 a month for a 1/6th share of an apartment
when they are working from home and all those wonderful urban amenities
are gone and they realized they never really used them in the first
place.
It's going to be very interesting to see what happens.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 03:27 PM (GbPPJ)
Speaking of dumping costs on employees, when the bride got sent home to work, I became the zero cost IT Bitch for her employer.
It appears the promise of working from home is finally being realized.
Companies are going to wonder why they are paying the overhead for
office space when those costs can be dumped on the employees. Employees
are realizing, hey, that commute and those costs for child care and
lunches and all the rest of it are not worth it.
The people living in the high cost urban areas are wondering why
they should be paying $3,500 a month for a 1/6th share of an apartment
when they are working from home and all those wonderful urban amenities
are gone and they realized they never really used them in the first
place.
It's going to be very interesting to see what happens.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 03:27 PM (GbPPJ)
Speaking of dumping costs on employees, when the bride got sent home to work, I became the zero cost IT Bitch for her employer.
Posted by: Muad'dib at May 26, 2020 03:30 PM (sjdRT)
Posted by: wth at May 26, 2020 03:30 PM (v0R5T)
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Corporate real estate is going to be a blood bath. It appears the
promise of working from home is finally being realized. Companies are
going to wonder why they are paying the overhead for office space when
those costs can be dumped on the employees. Employees are realizing,
hey, that commute and those costs for child care and lunches and all the
rest of it are not worth it.
The people living in the high cost urban areas are wondering why
they should be paying $3,500 a month for a 1/6th share of an apartment
when they are working from home and all those wonderful urban amenities
are gone and they realized they never really used them in the first
place.
It's going to be very interesting to see what happens.
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I have my doubts that working from home is going to be as widespread as people think.
promise of working from home is finally being realized. Companies are
going to wonder why they are paying the overhead for office space when
those costs can be dumped on the employees. Employees are realizing,
hey, that commute and those costs for child care and lunches and all the
rest of it are not worth it.
The people living in the high cost urban areas are wondering why
they should be paying $3,500 a month for a 1/6th share of an apartment
when they are working from home and all those wonderful urban amenities
are gone and they realized they never really used them in the first
place.
It's going to be very interesting to see what happens.
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I have my doubts that working from home is going to be as widespread as people think.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:30 PM (sX1BW)
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Biden video below is creepy
Posted by: Yo! at May 26, 2020 03:30 PM (q2fym)
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Governor Whitmer reopened businesses in the Upper Penninsula
Which, by rights, should really be called northern Wisconsin. It bears basically no resemblance to Lower Michigan.
Which, by rights, should really be called northern Wisconsin. It bears basically no resemblance to Lower Michigan.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 26, 2020 03:30 PM (lwiT4)
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This again? It straddles the river, its in two states.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:29 PM (KZzsI)
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I think this question is how Kansans could have elected MO's governor since it is the MO governor that made orders.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:29 PM (KZzsI)
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I think this question is how Kansans could have elected MO's governor since it is the MO governor that made orders.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 26, 2020 03:30 PM (hYcqw)
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My grandson is getting 45min of teacher time each week...not allowed to ask questions, either. It's bullshit city
I am live online with my students five days a week. Questions are encouraged, talking to dead air is deadening.
And I told the Horde that I spent one whole week on the proposition that communism is bad.
I am live online with my students five days a week. Questions are encouraged, talking to dead air is deadening.
And I told the Horde that I spent one whole week on the proposition that communism is bad.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2020 03:30 PM (gd9RK)
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Remember that law I keep quoting 18 USC 242? These 2 assholes violated that law and are eligible for a death sentence under it. The FBI actually is investigating this one.
Posted by: An Observation at May 26, 2020 03:22 PM (MU606)
Trump / Sessions should have made heavy use of that law on day one. And circled around back to FBI, etc. But Sessions really was not into civil rights violations.
Posted by: An Observation at May 26, 2020 03:22 PM (MU606)
Trump / Sessions should have made heavy use of that law on day one. And circled around back to FBI, etc. But Sessions really was not into civil rights violations.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 26, 2020 03:31 PM (1g7ch)
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Where do you get the idea that Kansas Cit MO is in Kansas?? CNN??
This again? It straddles the river, its in two states.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:29 PM (KZzsI)
KCMO = Missouri
KCK = Kansas
that's how the locals do it.
This again? It straddles the river, its in two states.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:29 PM (KZzsI)
KCMO = Missouri
KCK = Kansas
that's how the locals do it.
Posted by: filbert at May 26, 2020 03:31 PM (NiXyF)
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I have my doubts that working from home is going to be as widespread as people think.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:30 PM (sX1BW)
Son has been told that he will only have to come into the office one day a week, the rest: work-from-home.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:30 PM (sX1BW)
Son has been told that he will only have to come into the office one day a week, the rest: work-from-home.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 26, 2020 03:31 PM (lwiT4)
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I'm still pro-cop--although with many more reservations than I used to have--but this is just blatant murder.
Even most cops don't like this shit--because it makes them look bad.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2020 03:24 PM (CqE5x)
It really is. What the hell was the cop waiting for? The guy's down, presumably cuffed (because neither the cop nor his partner are trying to cuff him). Haul him up, put him in the cruiser, and take off.
Even most cops don't like this shit--because it makes them look bad.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 26, 2020 03:24 PM (CqE5x)
It really is. What the hell was the cop waiting for? The guy's down, presumably cuffed (because neither the cop nor his partner are trying to cuff him). Haul him up, put him in the cruiser, and take off.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 26, 2020 03:31 PM (YqDXo)
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> Which, by rights, should really be called northern Wisconsin. It bears basically no resemblance to Lower Michigan.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 26, 2020 03:30 PM (lwiT4)
Lets liberate Da U.P., Eh!
Posted by: grammie winger at May 26, 2020 03:30 PM (lwiT4)
Lets liberate Da U.P., Eh!
Posted by: Muad'dib at May 26, 2020 03:31 PM (sjdRT)
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Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 03:27 PM (GbPPJ)
My high-tech software company that markets "collaboration platforms" was very late to adopt any sort of reasonable "work-from-home" protocol because reasons.
They're now looking at the increased productivity from we sheep and saying, so tell me again how much money we can save by cutting our office footprint by 30-50 percent? How much, again? Once more, it's moving...
My high-tech software company that markets "collaboration platforms" was very late to adopt any sort of reasonable "work-from-home" protocol because reasons.
They're now looking at the increased productivity from we sheep and saying, so tell me again how much money we can save by cutting our office footprint by 30-50 percent? How much, again? Once more, it's moving...
Posted by: DocJ at May 26, 2020 03:31 PM (DU2N9)
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I just tried to watch the video of the cop killing a man. Could not get past the look on the cop's face in the opening frames. It is the face of evil.
Stepping outside for some fresh air.
Stepping outside for some fresh air.
Posted by: creeper at May 26, 2020 03:31 PM (XxJt1)
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Think about how many billions in forced downtown redevelopment just went "poof."
Let's spend millions getting new office space downtown
Now everyone work from home
You can come back now
Where is everyone?
Let's spend millions getting new office space downtown
Now everyone work from home
You can come back now
Where is everyone?
Posted by: RoyalOil at May 26, 2020 03:31 PM (aO8Gd)
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Speaking of dumping costs on employees, when the bride got sent home to work, I became the zero cost IT Bitch for her employer.
Posted by: Muad'dib at May 26, 2020 03:30 PM (sjdRT)
Taxes next year are going to be tons of fun when everyone goes hey can't I write off X% of my mortgage/electricity/internet bill as employment costs.
I would not be surprised to see passed some provision that provides, say, a $3,000 credit for anyone who worked from home due to Teh Wuhans.
Posted by: Muad'dib at May 26, 2020 03:30 PM (sjdRT)
Taxes next year are going to be tons of fun when everyone goes hey can't I write off X% of my mortgage/electricity/internet bill as employment costs.
I would not be surprised to see passed some provision that provides, say, a $3,000 credit for anyone who worked from home due to Teh Wuhans.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 03:32 PM (GbPPJ)
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Umm, NOOD.
Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at May 26, 2020 03:32 PM (KXkkH)
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It's awful that I feel the way I do about cops now.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 26, 2020 03:24 PM (rwAkj)
It was awful that we so willingly gave up so much power to so few, and assumed they'd never abuse it.
Free men don't do shit like that.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 26, 2020 03:24 PM (rwAkj)
It was awful that we so willingly gave up so much power to so few, and assumed they'd never abuse it.
Free men don't do shit like that.
Posted by: Things Best Not Said at May 26, 2020 03:32 PM (b/6cr)
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The people living in the high cost urban areas are wondering why they should be paying $3,500 a month for a 1/6th share of an apartment when they are working from home and all those wonderful urban amenities are gone and they realized they never really used them in the first place.
It's going to be very interesting to see what happens.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 03:27 PM (GbPPJ)
I don't see any changes in silicon valley, as far as big tech. For the google/fb/twatter/ebays, it's literally a lifestyle on the campus. They certainly want these people back under their thumbs as soon as possible, because if they live/eat/play there they have more control. Can't have them beginning to form their own thoughts outside that of the collective.
It's going to be very interesting to see what happens.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 03:27 PM (GbPPJ)
I don't see any changes in silicon valley, as far as big tech. For the google/fb/twatter/ebays, it's literally a lifestyle on the campus. They certainly want these people back under their thumbs as soon as possible, because if they live/eat/play there they have more control. Can't have them beginning to form their own thoughts outside that of the collective.
Posted by: clutch cargo at May 26, 2020 03:32 PM (8B6Ng)
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This again? It straddles the river, its in two states.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:29 PM (KZzsI)
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I live here... there.
KCMO and KCKS are two separate distinctly different cities with their own separate municipal governments.
When somebody talks about Kansas City in the vernacular... thats Kansas City MO.
it is not one city that straddles the state line.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:29 PM (KZzsI)
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I live here... there.
KCMO and KCKS are two separate distinctly different cities with their own separate municipal governments.
When somebody talks about Kansas City in the vernacular... thats Kansas City MO.
it is not one city that straddles the state line.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 26, 2020 03:32 PM (nw6Hr)
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327 > Which, by rights, should really be called northern Wisconsin. It bears basically no resemblance to Lower Michigan.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 26, 2020 03:30 PM (lwiT4)
Lets liberate Da U.P., Eh!
Posted by: Muad'dib at May 26, 2020 03:31 PM (sjdRT)
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It was given to Michigan in order to make the land masses between the two states relatively even, right?
Posted by: grammie winger at May 26, 2020 03:30 PM (lwiT4)
Lets liberate Da U.P., Eh!
Posted by: Muad'dib at May 26, 2020 03:31 PM (sjdRT)
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It was given to Michigan in order to make the land masses between the two states relatively even, right?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 03:32 PM (LvTSG)
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> And I told the Horde that I spent one whole week on the proposition that communism is bad.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2020 03:30 PM (gd9RK)
We need to talk.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 26, 2020 03:30 PM (gd9RK)
We need to talk.
Posted by: Bander's Teachers Union Shop Steward at May 26, 2020 03:32 PM (sjdRT)
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This again? It straddles the river, its in two states.
Yeah, but the best (and biggest) part is in MO.
Yeah, but the best (and biggest) part is in MO.
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 26, 2020 03:33 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 26, 2020 03:33 PM (kiC/Z)
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I saw the boat parade yesterday in Newport Beach, Ca. There were probably a hundred boats, and EVERY SINGLE ONE was liberally bedecked with Trump flags. Seriously, it was amazing. A lot of Gen Xers waving Trump flags.
My favorite was a boat with about 20 trump flags, and at the top, a California flag flown upside-down
My favorite was a boat with about 20 trump flags, and at the top, a California flag flown upside-down
Posted by: artemis at May 26, 2020 03:33 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: grammie winger at May 26, 2020 03:33 PM (lwiT4)
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my last encounter with a cop was a few years ago- got pulled over for speeding on my MC- got a warning-
this was in Golden CO
this was in Golden CO
Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 26, 2020 03:33 PM (iTXRQ)
343
nood screaming monkeys
nood screaming monkeys
Posted by: AltonJackson at May 26, 2020 03:33 PM (dqoUJ)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 26, 2020 03:33 PM (oVJmc)
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it is not one city that straddles the state line.
Yeah yeah, like New Yorkers who insist its Queens and Manhattan and Bronx and... its New York City.
Yeah yeah, like New Yorkers who insist its Queens and Manhattan and Bronx and... its New York City.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 26, 2020 03:34 PM (KZzsI)
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It was given to Michigan in order to make the land masses between the two states relatively even, right?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 03:32 PM (LvTSG)
It got traded for Toledo. Don't ask me how that happened.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 26, 2020 03:32 PM (LvTSG)
It got traded for Toledo. Don't ask me how that happened.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 26, 2020 03:34 PM (lwiT4)
347
Is JackStraw around because I know he knows this through the cloud of smoke surrounding his head - isn't the guy that finally got confirmed for DNI the one who is being sent there to otter the finances?
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 03:34 PM (GbPPJ)
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Out of passing curiosity, why? How is this a federal matter? State
police makes perfect sense, but what is the FBI's jurisdiction?
18 U.S. Code 242 - deprivation of Constitutional rights under color of law. The US vs Screws case Supreme Court ruling stated depriving somebody of their life without due process is a violation of 5th amendment rights. Under that law it does not matter if they meant to kill him - the fact that he died opens them to a potential death sentence.
police makes perfect sense, but what is the FBI's jurisdiction?
18 U.S. Code 242 - deprivation of Constitutional rights under color of law. The US vs Screws case Supreme Court ruling stated depriving somebody of their life without due process is a violation of 5th amendment rights. Under that law it does not matter if they meant to kill him - the fact that he died opens them to a potential death sentence.
Posted by: An Observation at May 26, 2020 03:34 PM (MU606)
349
Corporate real estate is going to be a blood bath. It appears the promise of working from home is finally being realized. Companies are going to wonder why they are paying the overhead for office space when those costs can be dumped on the employees. Employees are realizing, hey, that commute and those costs for child care and lunches and all the rest of it are not worth it.
It's going to be VERY interesting to watch how this develops.
The crucial piece: to work from home indefinitely the work product has to be tangible to the employer.
It's going to be VERY interesting to watch how this develops.
The crucial piece: to work from home indefinitely the work product has to be tangible to the employer.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 26, 2020 03:34 PM (YqDXo)
350
I have my doubts that working from home is going to be as widespread as people think.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:30 PM (sX1BW)
Son has been told that he will only have to come into the office one day a week, the rest: work-from-home.
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In the short-term yes, but in the long-run, I don't know. I think we will see more hybrid options, but people were already doing that. Extrapolating long-term trends under the current environment is likely causing us to see things that won't play out. Right now, there is simply less work to be done. There is no reason to have so many people at work. If the economy takes off, will people continue to be able to work from home? Some yes. Time will tell.
I have my doubts that working from home is going to be as widespread as people think.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:30 PM (sX1BW)
Son has been told that he will only have to come into the office one day a week, the rest: work-from-home.
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In the short-term yes, but in the long-run, I don't know. I think we will see more hybrid options, but people were already doing that. Extrapolating long-term trends under the current environment is likely causing us to see things that won't play out. Right now, there is simply less work to be done. There is no reason to have so many people at work. If the economy takes off, will people continue to be able to work from home? Some yes. Time will tell.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:35 PM (sX1BW)
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'Best economic data we've seen in the history of this country.'
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Wait, at the risk of not reading anything at the link because lazy...they're thinking the best economic data we've seen is coming in the approx 3rd quarter this year? Am I reading that right or is it just a worry at this point... I don't see how any indicators at this point would be reliable based on the jacked up, unknown territory shutdown palooza we're in, but what do I know.
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Wait, at the risk of not reading anything at the link because lazy...they're thinking the best economic data we've seen is coming in the approx 3rd quarter this year? Am I reading that right or is it just a worry at this point... I don't see how any indicators at this point would be reliable based on the jacked up, unknown territory shutdown palooza we're in, but what do I know.
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 26, 2020 03:35 PM (O+I8R)
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Street traffic here in w Denver Metro is back to pre-Plague levels
the restaurants and bars open tomorrow- some BS restrictions still in place, but open
the restaurants and bars open tomorrow- some BS restrictions still in place, but open
Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 26, 2020 03:35 PM (iTXRQ)
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340
Awesome.
Awesome.
Posted by: wth at May 26, 2020 03:36 PM (v0R5T)
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Which, by rights, should really be called northern Wisconsin. It bears basically no resemblance to Lower Michigan.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 26, 2020 03:30 PM
How DARE you suggest my Yooper father and that side of my family are anything like people from Wisconsin! You take that back, Grammie!!!!
Posted by: grammie winger at May 26, 2020 03:30 PM
How DARE you suggest my Yooper father and that side of my family are anything like people from Wisconsin! You take that back, Grammie!!!!
Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 26, 2020 03:36 PM (/+bwe)
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>>> 325 I have my doubts that working from home is going to be as widespread as people think.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:30 PM
My company is starting to force everyone back in. With mandatory masks. We're required to start webex meetings with fellow employees who are sitting six feet from us if we need to discuss things. Group meetings will be us all online but sitting in the same area. No walking around and talking with others. All insane rules. For engineers who are naturally introverts.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:30 PM
My company is starting to force everyone back in. With mandatory masks. We're required to start webex meetings with fellow employees who are sitting six feet from us if we need to discuss things. Group meetings will be us all online but sitting in the same area. No walking around and talking with others. All insane rules. For engineers who are naturally introverts.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 26, 2020 03:39 PM (l6b3d)
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59 Fu*king masks put me out of work!
I just that Joe Biden in a mask is a godsend for his campaign. Someone can imitate his voice and speak eloquently and no one would be the wiser. Just imagine a debate with a masked Biden answering questions! All he has to do is not fall down or fondle the female questioner.
I just that Joe Biden in a mask is a godsend for his campaign. Someone can imitate his voice and speak eloquently and no one would be the wiser. Just imagine a debate with a masked Biden answering questions! All he has to do is not fall down or fondle the female questioner.
Posted by: jayhawkone at May 26, 2020 03:39 PM (ZD+J8)
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https://tinyurl.com/y9s3s7xl
That Central Park Karen fired. HotGas, your schadenfreude can continue/was not sure if you saw this latest update.
That Central Park Karen fired. HotGas, your schadenfreude can continue/was not sure if you saw this latest update.
Posted by: MikeM at May 26, 2020 03:40 PM (la+t0)
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160---If they can't force mail in voting here, definitely put PA in the RED for November. WE HAVE HAD IT
Posted by: HostageBlackOrchid at May 26, 2020 03:05 PM (j9HX3)
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IF? They WILL.
Posted by: HostageBlackOrchid at May 26, 2020 03:05 PM (j9HX3)
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IF? They WILL.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 26, 2020 03:42 PM (M/9m0)
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Thanks for posting the excerpts, Ace. Don't like to subsidize left wing media like Politico by giving them a click.
Positives from this dismal episode:
1) Any sentient being sees how deluded and broken the MSM is. A bonus, lots of left journos laid off.
2) While people less distracted by their daily life, Obamagate docs released by the hero Grenell showing what a phony corrupt creed Obama is. Won't convince die hard Dems but will prompt questions from those on the fence
3) Expose the danger of Dem control freaks in state governments. People--even Karens--don't like getting their marching orders from others. (Karens ok when guidance aligns with their own ideas, otherwise no way).
Trump admin talking about a couple of ways to coax workers back--besides the negative of ending unemployment bonus. The simple idea of payroll tax holiday won't get the approval of Congress--not enough lobbyist graft for them in that idea. BUT, some deducts for businesses not laying off workers as well as sheltering some $$ of earned vs. unemployment income would work.
Net effect--huge % increases in growth because--Animal spirits.
Kick the can of figuring out debt and deficits (which are dire, for sure) down the road
Positives from this dismal episode:
1) Any sentient being sees how deluded and broken the MSM is. A bonus, lots of left journos laid off.
2) While people less distracted by their daily life, Obamagate docs released by the hero Grenell showing what a phony corrupt creed Obama is. Won't convince die hard Dems but will prompt questions from those on the fence
3) Expose the danger of Dem control freaks in state governments. People--even Karens--don't like getting their marching orders from others. (Karens ok when guidance aligns with their own ideas, otherwise no way).
Trump admin talking about a couple of ways to coax workers back--besides the negative of ending unemployment bonus. The simple idea of payroll tax holiday won't get the approval of Congress--not enough lobbyist graft for them in that idea. BUT, some deducts for businesses not laying off workers as well as sheltering some $$ of earned vs. unemployment income would work.
Net effect--huge % increases in growth because--Animal spirits.
Kick the can of figuring out debt and deficits (which are dire, for sure) down the road
Posted by: groovygirl at May 26, 2020 03:42 PM (ybC9u)
360
It got traded for Toledo. Don't ask me how that happened.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 26, 2020 03:34 PM (lwiT4)
Michigan owned Toledo. Ohio decided to take it. There was a battle. A pig died and Ohioans lost. To ensure no more farm animals would die nor Ohioans would have their butts handed to them, the Frostbit Convention granted the apparently useless UP in exchange for Toledo.
Also, the term for people from Michigan is Michiganian. "Michigander" was an insult lobbed by a senator. The only ones who used it afterwards were writers at the Detroit Free Press. As a joke.
Naturally, I hope the Michigander Whitmer's goose is cooked in the next election.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 26, 2020 03:34 PM (lwiT4)
Michigan owned Toledo. Ohio decided to take it. There was a battle. A pig died and Ohioans lost. To ensure no more farm animals would die nor Ohioans would have their butts handed to them, the Frostbit Convention granted the apparently useless UP in exchange for Toledo.
Also, the term for people from Michigan is Michiganian. "Michigander" was an insult lobbed by a senator. The only ones who used it afterwards were writers at the Detroit Free Press. As a joke.
Naturally, I hope the Michigander Whitmer's goose is cooked in the next election.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 26, 2020 03:42 PM (/+bwe)
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All he has to do is not fall down or fondle the female questioner.
They are really worried that he won't be able to do either.
They are really worried that he won't be able to do either.
Posted by: An Observation at May 26, 2020 03:42 PM (MU606)
Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 26, 2020 03:43 PM (iTXRQ)
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I've been to Toledo
well, Tony Packo's...
well, Tony Packo's...
Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 26, 2020 03:45 PM (iTXRQ)
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I knew it was too good to be true of that POS Northam.
Just when some restrictions in VA were relaxed on the 15th, he has now mandated that we MUST wear masks in any public building.
This takes effect on Friday. I'd better get all I can from the grocery store in the next two days, I guess.
I can't say what I want to say.
Just when some restrictions in VA were relaxed on the 15th, he has now mandated that we MUST wear masks in any public building.
This takes effect on Friday. I'd better get all I can from the grocery store in the next two days, I guess.
I can't say what I want to say.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 26, 2020 03:45 PM (M/9m0)
365
curses
nooded again
nooded again
Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 26, 2020 03:45 PM (iTXRQ)
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DB, I saw your remark. I've been to Toledo several times. Never to Tony Packo's.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 26, 2020 03:49 PM (/+bwe)
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347 Is JackStraw around because I know he knows this through the cloud of smoke surrounding his head - isn't the guy that finally got confirmed for DNI the one who is being sent there to otter the finances?
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 03:34 PM (GbPPJ)
That there statement is as "Hordish Inside Baseball"
as I've read on this site EVAH!
No offense intended Empress...
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 26, 2020 03:34 PM (GbPPJ)
That there statement is as "Hordish Inside Baseball"
as I've read on this site EVAH!
No offense intended Empress...
Posted by: browndog at May 26, 2020 03:58 PM (gD6Ka)
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As for sports leagues, their contraction has little effect on the overall economy.
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:02 PM
I thought I was explaining how the contraction of professional sports has a MAJOR effect on the overall economy.
I don't understand how cities across the country with hundreds of hotels, restaurants, bars, sports bars, etc which all depend on revenue from fans coming out to watch sports or frequent their businesses before and after games which now will not have any of that business for an entire year... how that has little effect on the economy?
Hundreds of small businesses across the country --- thousands of jobs --- folding and not coming back has little effect on the economy?
Not snark... I guess I really don't understand the economy...
Posted by: SH at May 26, 2020 03:02 PM
I thought I was explaining how the contraction of professional sports has a MAJOR effect on the overall economy.
I don't understand how cities across the country with hundreds of hotels, restaurants, bars, sports bars, etc which all depend on revenue from fans coming out to watch sports or frequent their businesses before and after games which now will not have any of that business for an entire year... how that has little effect on the economy?
Hundreds of small businesses across the country --- thousands of jobs --- folding and not coming back has little effect on the economy?
Not snark... I guess I really don't understand the economy...
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 26, 2020 04:00 PM (Do5/p)
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today's Democratic party. They don't care who gets hurt. Kill tens of thousands and nursing homes. No problem. Destroyed countless lives and dreams and businesses. No problem.
get back to our whatever the cost. Whatever the cost.
get back to our whatever the cost. Whatever the cost.
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