The Morning Report - 5/21/20

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Good morning, kids. Thursday, and another grim milestone of yet another day of America held hostage.

The past few months have brought out some of the worst and best in our fellow citizens. Naturally the media, which is part and parcel of the former distorts and twists that which it cannot conceal about the latter. From Andrew "Angel-of-Death" Cuomo's insane actions, which directly caused the needless deaths of several thousand otherwise stable nursing home residents, the imprisonment and threats against Shelly Luther and Karl Manke, the shuttering of churches by Gavin Noose-'em, the sabotaging of Virginia GOP primary elections by Mammy McMengele, the persecution of Jews by Wilhelm DeBolshevik, to Wretched Whitmer's decreeing of what can and cannot be sold in stores she permits to remain open, and on and on - all of it was and still is breathtaking to behold, if not really all that surprising since it is reflective of the will to power of Leftists.

But what Alan Dershowitz said on a podcast is just staggering, to me, anyway:

..."Let me put it very clearly," the lawyer said, speaking to podcast host Jason Goodman. "You have no constitutional right to endanger the public and spread the disease, even if you disagree. You have no right not to be vaccinated, you have no right not to wear a mask, you have no right to open up your business."

"[But] If you refuse to be vaccinated [for a contagious disease], the state has the power to literally take you to a doctor's office and plunge a needle into your arm," Dershowitz continued...

I remember seeing Monty Clift reacting to lines that are almost verbatim in Judgement at Nuremburg, where he played a simpleton who was forcibly castrated by the Nazis - kissing cousins of the Democrat Party - who also had the power to take you to a doctor's office and make the world safe for democracy, so to speak.

..."You have no right to refuse to be vaccinated against a contagious disease," he said. "Public health, the police power of the Constitution, gives the state the power to compel that. And there are cases in the United States Supreme Court."

"That's what a democracy is about," Dershowitz argued. "If the majority of the people agree and support that, for public health measures, you have to be vaccinated, you have to be vaccinated..."

Ho. Lee. Fook. Joe Biden has an excuse; he's a goniffing, thuggish lowlife who's left a 50-year-long slime trail of corruption, criminality and sexual abuse which is mercifully coming to an end as his brain rots from bovine spongiform encephalopathy. What the hell is Dershowitz's? Forget for a moment he's a liberal; here's a guy who is considered one of the greatest constitutional scholars in American history as well as a supposed champion of that document in the protection of individual rights. For someone like him to make the most basic error in stating we're a democracy and not a representative republic, then to underscore it by negating his own career by championing majoritarian tyranny is the bitter end. Whatever hope I had in him from his defense of Trump during the Shampeachment show trials has completely evaporated.

Even if the nation were ever to face a real health crisis where people were dying in the streets and bodies had to be buried or incinerated in mass graves, we wouldn't even be having a faculty lounge debate about legal niceties and Constitutional case law because the world will have ended. But what's actually happening - or not happening - isn't even in the same universe. What we are dealing with right now is a monstrous fraud and power-grab that makes even the Shampeachment and Coup look amateurish, because right now, it's working. Our right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness has been stripped before our eyes. The fact that Dershowitz cannot see this, or worse, that he is perhaps arguing in the abstract, makes his statement that much more monstrous.

Lift the lockdowns. Liberate America.

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1 Good morning horde!

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 21, 2020 07:52 AM (0nzky)

2 Morning!

Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2020 07:52 AM (vd8XM)

3 There.

Posted by: Deep State 910 at May 21, 2020 07:52 AM (qLs5f)

4 WTFO??

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 07:52 AM (JFO2v)

5 Corgis called.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 21, 2020 07:53 AM (Q1e7E)

6 Wow I actually got here early

Posted by: Cicero Skip at May 21, 2020 07:53 AM (FIrEF)

7 Yo Horde. Top 10. Whoop! JJ rules.

Posted by: Boxx Culvert, no the road yo. at May 21, 2020 07:53 AM (JFASH)

8 I recently had a thought...can you imagine how much worse this whole lockdown/panic/power grab thing would have been if the Democrats had gotten their way in February and impeached Trump?
Imagine this whole thing hitting while we were in the middle of an unexpected and messy administrative transition...really glad that didn't happen.

Posted by: Viridian at May 21, 2020 07:54 AM (X/q+G)

9 Blue Pill People

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC_lZLzCrOI

Posted by: Augustine at May 21, 2020 07:55 AM (Alp4m)

10 G'mornin' Horde !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 21, 2020 07:56 AM (cqteU)

11 Tenish?

Posted by: Ironwood at May 21, 2020 07:56 AM (n5L++)

12 Good morning!

Posted by: Guzalot at May 21, 2020 07:56 AM (Rz36l)

13 I just want to point out that all comments I made last week were done "by the book", so that should allay any of your suspicions.

Posted by: t-bird at May 21, 2020 07:56 AM (ELgVT)

14 Mornin', Horde.
What's goin' on?

Thanks, JJ, for delivering the mail !

Posted by: Heirloominati, Question Authority at May 21, 2020 07:56 AM (rqgqe)

15 Good Morning

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 21, 2020 07:57 AM (Owlqg)

16 You go first Al and I'll think about. Umm Nooo! And one more thing you got the Epstein taint. F off.

Posted by: azalea city at May 21, 2020 07:57 AM (WX+x0)

17 Can you imagine what would have happened if hillary was president when this pandemic hit?

Posted by: Cicero Skip at May 21, 2020 07:57 AM (FIrEF)

18 Mornin peepo !!

Feels like Friday.... then again every day feels the same...

Posted by: McCool at May 21, 2020 07:57 AM (lWCRE)

19 Catastrophic Michigan Dam Failure Forces Thousands From Their Homes

We'll just go back to leaded water, I guess...

Posted by: Flint, MI at May 21, 2020 07:58 AM (ELgVT)

20 Bonjour fappeurs!

Go Governor Ron!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 21, 2020 07:58 AM (NWiLs)

21 The letter from 600 doctors warining the President of the dire consquences of continuing the lockdown may be a sign of the return of sanity.

Posted by: Caliban at May 21, 2020 07:59 AM (QE8X6)

22 Happy Birthday JJ!

There are plenty of people who are going on with life and running their business.

People are going to outpace what the government does.

But there is a cohort that believe all the scary shit the media tell them. And they are fighting against the normies.

Posted by: blaster at May 21, 2020 07:59 AM (ZfRYq)

23 morning everyone

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 21, 2020 08:00 AM (19g6/)

24 So my XO emailed this morning saying he was trying to figure out what happened to Dr. Fauci.

I can't find anything in the news.

Any ideas?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, LOL, get fucked at May 21, 2020 08:00 AM (T8HPM)

25 Hillary would release the virus on the Fun Camps.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 21, 2020 08:00 AM (Owlqg)

26 Mr. Dershowitz, I think the cheese slid off your cracker.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 21, 2020 08:00 AM (dUJdY)

27 Good luck convincing all the Hasidim in Lakewood and Monsey, Alan !

Posted by: McCool at May 21, 2020 08:02 AM (lWCRE)

28 I have a friend, smart, educated (a therapist) not particularly political but a default Democrat (her lesbian girlfriend is MAGA as anything go figure) and she keeps asking me whether I think there will be a much worse second wave. Because she keeps reading that is what is coming.

It's all I can do to keep her off the ledge.

Posted by: blaster at May 21, 2020 08:02 AM (ZfRYq)

29 But] If you refuse to be vaccinated [for a contagious disease], the state has the power to literally take you to a doctor's office and plunge a needle into your arm," Dershowitz continued

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Because places like NC reached the grim milestone of 700 deaths out of 250,000+ tests in a population of 10.5M.

Your kids go first.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fewer than 1,000 healthcare workers WORLDWIDE have died from COVID-19 at May 21, 2020 08:02 AM (aden2)

30 ZOD.

Posted by: Zod at May 21, 2020 08:02 AM (qXNVo)

31 Hillary would release the virus on the Fun Camps.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

Or it would have been a "move along, nothing to see here" moment

Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2020 08:03 AM (vd8XM)

32 Dersh has been snoozing on his laurels for a while

Sek shoulda gave Dersh the hook during the impeachment conflab. I thought he sucked

when's the last time Dersh actually tested his BS in front of the SCOTUS

Posted by: REDACTED at May 21, 2020 08:04 AM (UUUON)

33 The CV briefings are over so he is not a part of those. He won't totally dump on Trump so the newsies have lost interest.

Posted by: blaster at May 21, 2020 08:04 AM (ZfRYq)

34 17 Can you imagine what would have happened if hillary was president when this pandemic hit?
Posted by: Cicero Skip at May 21, 2020 07:57 AM (FIrEF)

"What virus?"

Posted by: MSM at May 21, 2020 08:04 AM (OzQGF)

35 I like that the same people who will keep insisting "we don't understand this virus!" are the same people insisting on injecting people with a manmade organic soup that was developed in a month to counter the virus.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fewer than 1,000 healthcare workers WORLDWIDE have died from COVID-19 at May 21, 2020 08:04 AM (aden2)

36 "What virus?"
Posted by: MSM

Bleach bit for everyone!

Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2020 08:05 AM (vd8XM)

37 Good morning hordelings. It doesn't seem possible that this is Memorial Day weekend. I feel like I completely lost April and May.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 21, 2020 08:05 AM (lwiT4)

38 >>she keeps asking me whether I think there will be a much worse second wave

"Yes."

(Faraway look, single stroke of chin, throat clearing, brief finger-tenting, another chin-stroke)

"Yes. And the second wave will make a third wave....unnecessary."

Posted by: Zod at May 21, 2020 08:05 AM (qXNVo)

39
Nothing would've happened had Hillary won. Just like nothing happened in 2009 when Swine Flu hit.

The economy would've been wrecked on its own without a shutdown merely by Democrats being in power.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 21, 2020 08:05 AM (s2VJv)

40 Moronin', Hourde!

Posted by: Hans O'Lo at May 21, 2020 08:05 AM (u7pQw)

41 Any ideas?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, LOL, get fucked at May 21, 2020 08:00 AM (T8HPM)
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I'm hoping the president put a muzzle on him and I am further hoping he keeps it that way. I've had enough hysteria to last me a lifetime.

Posted by: bluebell at May 21, 2020 08:05 AM (/669Q)

42 Alan Dershowitz Loses His Mind: You Have "No Right" to Refuse Mask, Open Your Business; State Has "Right" to "Plunge a Needle Into Your Arm" and Forcibly Vaccinate



You want an actual, hot, hot shooting war?
Because that's how you get one.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 08:06 AM (qBbz7)

43 " the state has the power to literally take you to a doctor's office and plunge a needle into your arm," Dershowitz continued




I guess 'My body, my choice' went the same route as #Metoo and Believe All Women.

Who knew such leftist moral imperatives had expiration dates?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 08:06 AM (3D/fK)

44 I like that the same people who will keep insisting "we don't understand this virus!" are the same people insisting on injecting people with a manmade organic soup that was developed in a month to counter the virus.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

I'm sure the pregnant women will be lining up for them.

Yes, I WANT a baby born with flippers!
Olympic Gold baby!!

Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2020 08:06 AM (vd8XM)

45 Thanks as always for your brilliant efforts , JJ.

As much as we enjoy the fruits of your labor every morning, I have to believe that for you it is a labor of love. At least I hope so.


I didn't see this one in your links.


Janice Dean has a truly disgusting video of the Cuomo brothers , Bluto and Butcher, yukking it up over cotton swabs.


https://tinyurl.com/y8ssstcr

Truly revolting when you consider the context.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - Have you reported in to your assigned Contact Tracer today? at May 21, 2020 08:06 AM (pnfZk)

46 Nobody is jabbing anything into my arm unless I say so, and I won't say so.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 21, 2020 08:06 AM (lwiT4)

47 Government does indeed have the police power to enforce vaccinations. But at what cost? I imagine it would be a tipping point toward civil breakdown. The anti-vaccination crowd is fierce. Though not one of them, I would join them.

If Trump tries this, he's finished. I can't imagine he will.

Our side loves to embrace 'liberals" who occasionally take positions compatible with ours. But in time it's confirmed that they're never to be trusted.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 08:07 AM (H8QX8)

48 Grammie!! How did it go yesterday?

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 21, 2020 08:07 AM (dUJdY)

49 "What virus?"

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Yep. The end, full stop.

Page 4b of the Daily Times Daily: "this season has seen another run of flu deaths in nursing homes, just like every year since records were kept. Doctors remind you to wash your hands. In other news, Sally Smith took first prize in the 3rd grade category of the local Tip Top Tap dance competition."

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fewer than 1,000 healthcare workers WORLDWIDE have died from COVID-19 at May 21, 2020 08:07 AM (aden2)

50 >>46
Nobody is jabbing anything into my arm unless I say so, and I won't say so. Posted by: grammie winger at May 21, 2020 08:06 AM (lwiT4)

(Scribbles in notebook)
Your intransigence has been noted and will be directed to the proper bureau for...archiving.

Posted by: Zod at May 21, 2020 08:08 AM (ZS9TG)

51 I have a friend, smart, educated (a therapist) not particularly political but a default Democrat (her lesbian girlfriend is MAGA as anything go figure) and she keeps asking me whether I think there will be a much worse second wave. Because she keeps reading that is what is coming.

It's all I can do to keep her off the ledge.
Posted by: blaster


Ask her when the first wVe hits.
My county has been stuck on 25 dead since last week.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 08:08 AM (qBbz7)

52 45 Posted by: deplorable unperson - Have you reported in to your assigned Contact Tracer today? at May 21, 2020 08:06 AM (pnfZk)


I have a similar link with Janice Dean.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 21, 2020 08:08 AM (s2VJv)

53 I'm going to guess Dershowitz hasn't missed any paychecks through this whole fiasco, nor will he as long as there is any semblance of civilization.

Screw this new normal talk. With all these new pandemic BS piled on all the nanny state safety regulations, political correctness speech controls, terrorism alerts and searches, paranoid helicopter parents, schools locked down continually etc... we are creating a nightmare dystopia. I wish my kids could grow up like I did decades ago.


Posted by: Ripley at May 21, 2020 08:09 AM (sGobE)

54 Not getting the vaccine.
No way, no how.

And thanks for the great MR, JJ.

Posted by: Flyover, tired of lockdown theatre at May 21, 2020 08:09 AM (Rbu5d)

55 Can someone ask Dersh, why if his argument is true the government doesn't make the yearly flu vaccine mandatory? These people make my head hurt.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at May 21, 2020 08:09 AM (xceTB)

56 Nothing would've happened had Hillary won. Just like nothing happened in 2009 when Swine Flu hit.

My wife and I had the swine flu and didn't think anything about it

we were sick a couple of weeks

Posted by: REDACTED at May 21, 2020 08:09 AM (UUUON)

57 Nobody is jabbing anything into my arm unless I say so, and I won't say so. Posted by: grammie winger at May 21, 2020 08:06 AM (lwiT4)

(Scribbles in notebook)
Your intransigence has been noted and will be directed to the proper bureau for...archiving.
Posted by: Zod

Grammie, quick! Write a CYA email to yourself. Include some recipes and talk about yoga, or yogurt.

Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2020 08:09 AM (vd8XM)

58

TULA RULA LOO. Nurse Nurse Das Drove me a crazy..........

Posted by: saf at May 21, 2020 08:10 AM (5IHGB)

59 I'm sure the pregnant women will be lining up for them.

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Start with residents of public housing.

After five years of monitoring move to welfare recipients nationwide.

After five additional years we'll talk.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fewer than 1,000 healthcare workers WORLDWIDE have died from COVID-19 at May 21, 2020 08:10 AM (aden2)

60 That's what a democracy is about," Dershowitz argued. "If the majority of the people agree and support that, for public health measures, you have to be vaccinated, you have to be vaccinated..."

Yes, Mr. Dershowitz, and that is why we have a REPUBLIC, not a democracy, and why our Constitution brilliantly gave every INDIVIDUAL certain rights that even the majority could not take away. Our founding fathers feared a dictatorship of the majority, and took steps to prevent it.

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at May 21, 2020 08:10 AM (EmvIw)

61 Susan Rice's use of "by the book" in her infamous email, three times and TWICE in scare quotes, sorta puts the lie to the idea over at NRO that she is "whip smart," as one of their phrase coiners put it some time back. No one who is "whip smart" would be that dumb.

Posted by: Caliban at May 21, 2020 08:10 AM (QE8X6)

62 Hey top pic guy don't point at the nurse ,that's RUDE not NUDE.

Posted by: saf at May 21, 2020 08:10 AM (5IHGB)

63 GP makes a big story out of 3 city council seats flipping in VA.
It's asserted that it's a solid dem area.

Maybe. I mean, there's like 5k votes cast total in these things.

The only thing of interest is, the dems all doubled the number of votes they got over last time. And still lost.

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 21, 2020 08:11 AM (aO8Gd)

64 bonjour horde

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 21, 2020 08:11 AM (NVYyb)

65 Government does indeed have the police power to enforce vaccinations.
They have the right to assess that vaccinations (based on "models" of course) are for the public health.


And we have the right to assess that their forced vaccinations are tyranny and lead an armed revolution to replace those leaders for the public good.

Checks and balances.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - Have you reported in to your assigned Contact Tracer today? at May 21, 2020 08:11 AM (pnfZk)

66 >>60
That's what a democracy is about," Dershowitz argued. "If the majority
of the people agree and support that, for public health measures, you
have to be vaccinated, you have to be vaccinated..."

He's trolling.

Posted by: Zod at May 21, 2020 08:11 AM (ZS9TG)

67 Grammie!! How did it go yesterday?

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 21, 2020 08:07 AM (dUJdY)



Mixed bag. We thought we had it, then they walked it back, now they've walked it forward but only halfway (we can serve communion to small groups at a time, but then they walked it back again to mid-June. We have half the church furious that we are trying to re-open, and the other half furious at us because we're not open. I am sick to my stomach and can barely sleep. Today we have another confrontation, er, I mean - meeting. It'll be ugly. Ah well....

Posted by: grammie winger at May 21, 2020 08:11 AM (lwiT4)

68 'Second wave' is the new ooga-booga, the new way to prolong the panic.

Any sensible person would have to have accepted from the beginning that that was inevitable.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 21, 2020 08:11 AM (oVJmc)

69 The new normal is that at age 79 you get thrown into Death Homes by the governor.

Posted by: t-bird at May 21, 2020 08:11 AM (pbStR)

70 The story of the nearly-naked nurse warms my heart! There are still medical professionals with their patients best interests in mind.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 21, 2020 08:12 AM (NVYyb)

71 So Joe if Joe's taking a black woman

Cory's still in the running, right ?

Posted by: REDACTED at May 21, 2020 08:13 AM (UUUON)

72 >>No one who is "whip smart" would be that dumb. Posted by: Caliban at May 21, 2020 08:10 AM (QE8X6)


She's the Boxer of the Clinton empire Animal Farm.
"I will work harder!"

Posted by: Zod at May 21, 2020 08:13 AM (qXNVo)

73 The story of the nearly-naked nurse warms my heart! There are still medical professionals with their patients best interests in mind.
Posted by: Huck Follywood,

Nurse, are my testicles black?

Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2020 08:13 AM (vd8XM)

74 "That's what a democracy is about," Dershowitz argued. "If the majority of the people agree and support that, for public health measures, you have to be vaccinated, you have to be vaccinated..."



Did I miss the vote? Why didn't someone tell we could vote on these civil liberty restrictions? I am pretty sure that if I had known I would have gone to the polls.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 21, 2020 08:13 AM (yQpMk)

75 The Russian Nurse has all the male patients chanting "Comrade, NOW I want to live!"

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - YOU are all in it together! - at May 21, 2020 08:13 AM (jnM20)

76 That's what a democracy is about," Dershowitz argued.

True, and it's exactly why we are not a Democrat-acy.

Posted by: t-bird at May 21, 2020 08:13 AM (pbStR)

77 And if anyone really believes China is hoarding for a second wave already they are certifiable - China is pushng the panic narrative, they could give a shit about another 2 million deaths at home.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at May 21, 2020 08:14 AM (xceTB)

78 When are they predicting the first wave to hit?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fewer than 1,000 healthcare workers WORLDWIDE have died from COVID-19 at May 21, 2020 08:14 AM (aden2)

79 I see the out of control Michigan AG has ordered Trump to wear a mask when he visits that Michigan auto plant today or...or what?

Will Uber Karen Gov. Whitmer order state troopers to arrest Trump, shoot him on site? What will it be? The dems in Michigan are on a political suicide march right off the election cliff - here's hoping they drag the rest of this miserable party right over with them.

Posted by: Boswell at May 21, 2020 08:14 AM (32YRo)

80 And thanks for the pic JJ - I had forgotten how good Clift was in that movie and in general in his career.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at May 21, 2020 08:14 AM (xceTB)

81 Checks and balances.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - Have you reported in to your assigned Contact Tracer today? at May 21, 2020 08:11 AM (pnfZk)

Just to be clear, I said power, not right. They have the power to make your life very miserable if you don't comply.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 08:15 AM (H8QX8)

82 Can Michigan pipe all that water to Flint?

Posted by: Downcast at May 21, 2020 08:15 AM (qb5LQ)

83 ...all of it was and still is breathtaking to behold, if not really all that surprising since it is reflective of the will to power of Leftists.

But what Alan Dershowitz said on a podcast is just staggering, to me, anyway:


The actions of the tyrannical Democrat Governors has not been as breathtaking to me as has been the rabid defense and justification of the actions by American citizens.

The amount of people who not only blindly agree and comply with the actions, but also rabidly attack anyone who dares disagree... that has been the most disheartening revelation of this entire situation for me.

Reminds me of the Monsignor in Boondock Saints:

"Now, we must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men."

That's another disheartening thing from this situation. We have evil men (politicians, Karens, media, celebrities & athletes putting out "stay at home" messages, etc.) and then we also have too many Americans who are indifferent to everything going on.

Everyone should be enraged about the lies and the stripping of our basic Constitutional rights.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 21, 2020 08:15 AM (Do5/p)

84 Anybody have a link to that quote that we see here sometimes/

The one about tyranny by do-gooders is worse than the tyranny of the evil oppressor...or something like that.


I have a young friend who is nibbling around the edges of the red pill, and want to share it with him.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 08:15 AM (3D/fK)

85 84 Anybody have a link to that quote that we see here sometimes/

The one about tyranny by do-gooders is worse than the tyranny of the evil oppressor...or something like that.


I have a young friend who is nibbling around the edges of the red pill, and want to share it with him.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 08:15 AM (3D/fK)


C.S. Lewis.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 21, 2020 08:16 AM (s2VJv)

86

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 21, 2020 08:16 AM (s2VJv)

87 >"Joe Biden has an excuse; he's a goniffing...what's Dershowitz's?"

Dershowitz is a statist liberal, always has been, and he's not changing.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at May 21, 2020 08:17 AM (z7PmS)

88 JJ, cool. I found it on the Janice Dean Twitter link you had posted, just didn't see it specifically referenced.


I definitely didn't find it, as I don't Twit.

It boggles the mind that within days of marching people to their deaths ( not to mention to Amazing Case of the Disappearing 62 Million in Ventilator Money) that Fredo and Fredo are giddy and goofing on COVID testing like nothing horrifying has happened.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - Have you reported in to your assigned Contact Tracer today? at May 21, 2020 08:17 AM (pnfZk)

89 Thanks, J.J.


C.S. Lewis it is.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 08:17 AM (3D/fK)

90 So my XO emailed this morning saying he was trying to figure out what happened to Dr. Fauci.

Got sent to a nursing home in NYC...he's doomed.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 21, 2020 08:18 AM (Q1e7E)

91 Funny how so many of the proponents of the New Normal live in gated communities and/or have bulletproof paychecks and pensions!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - YOU are all in it together! - at May 21, 2020 08:18 AM (jnM20)

92 9 Blue Pill People
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--the video is great but too on the nose to be funny
Love these lines:
"These are your rights, unless we scare you with s virus"
"You are free to do what we tell you"
"The death count will soon be 100%"
"Wear a mask ... and lose my identity "
"I can trust powerful people on podiums who say the right things"

Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 21, 2020 08:18 AM (G546f)

93 Scientists say you must submit to the will of the tyrants and mob for the public good.

Nothing personal, its just #Science

Posted by: Ripley at May 21, 2020 08:18 AM (sGobE)

94 Sitting here reading of all the shortages we're facing I can't help but hear Ronald Reagan telling us that the US could lead the world with a "service economy". That was the single biggest blunder of his administration. And we are now paying the price for it.

Posted by: creeper at May 21, 2020 08:19 AM (XxJt1)

95 79 I see the out of control Michigan AG has ordered Trump to wear a mask when he visits that Michigan auto plant today or...or what?

Will Uber Karen Gov. Whitmer order state troopers to arrest Trump, shoot him on site? What will it be? The dems in Michigan are on a political suicide march right off the election cliff - here's hoping they drag the rest of this miserable party right over with them.
Posted by: Boswell at May 21, 2020 08:14 AM (32YRo)


IMPEACH!

Posted by: Jerry Nadler at May 21, 2020 08:19 AM (ZfRYq)

96 The economy would've been wrecked on its own without a shutdown merely by Democrats being in power.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 21, 2020 08:05 AM



I think that is a 100 percent correct prediction !!

Posted by: Cicero Skip at May 21, 2020 08:19 AM (FIrEF)

97 Nothing would've happened had Hillary won. Just like nothing happened in 2009 when Swine Flu hit.

The economy would've been wrecked on its own without a shutdown merely by Democrats being in power.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 21, 2020 08:05 AM (s2VJv)


Gaylord's third term.

Kudos to whoever it was, Marcus T, who took organized religion to task for submitting to the state like gutless complicit cowards and telling the flock they're on their own for spiritual nourishment. The misapprehension in this country, produced by public schools and other mind deadening handmaidens of tyranny, that "religion is a private matter" has contributed to that. Religion is a social matter which the state has spared no effort to eradicate. More than anything it put the first chink in the Iron Curtain which is why the Yellow Horde has the Uighurs in concentration camps and Christians are on their own. Having a Peronist Pope is part and parcel of submission to the state by design.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 21, 2020 08:19 AM (y7DUB)

98 I am sick to my stomach and can barely sleep. Today we have another confrontation, er, I mean - meeting. It'll be ugly. Ah well....
Posted by: grammie winger at May 21, 2020 08:11 AM (lwiT4)

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grammie, sorry, but this made me laugh and happy I am no longer on the board of directors.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 21, 2020 08:19 AM (EZebt)

99 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 21, 2020 08:19 AM (Zz0t1)

100 79

I see the out of control Michigan AG has ordered Trump to wear a mask when he visits that Michigan auto plant today or... or what?

Will Uber Karen Gov. Whitmer order state troopers to arrest Trump, shoot him on site? What will it be?

Posted by: Boswell at May 21, 2020 08:14 AM

My guess is that she will punish the auto plant manager after the fact for not enforcing her "order". She would not dare arrest the President over a mask, but you know she would feed her need to punish someone by taking out her wrath on the plant manager for defying her.

All President Trump has to do to shut her up is bring up the fact she deliberately killed elderly Michiganders by hoarding COVID-19 patients in nursing homes.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 21, 2020 08:20 AM (Do5/p)

101 VIA

Also somewhat related:

Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded -- here and there, now and then -- are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.

This is known as "bad luck"!

Robert A Heinlein

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - YOU are all in it together! - at May 21, 2020 08:20 AM (jnM20)

102 Trump can never be seen wearing a mask.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 08:20 AM (H8QX8)

103 Everyone should be enraged about the lies and the stripping of our basic Constitutional rights.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 21, 2020 08:15 AM (Do5/p)

Well, the Nazis, the Soviets, and the CCP were all probably just as surprised at the number of German, Russian and Chinese citizens that went along with their control schemes...every dictatorship needs its Karens...

Posted by: Boswell at May 21, 2020 08:20 AM (32YRo)

104 Did all of you get your "letter to self" written? You know, to cover your ass legally?

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 21, 2020 08:20 AM (jUVms)

105 So my XO emailed this morning saying he was trying to figure out what happened to Dr. Fauci.
I can't find anything in the news.
Any ideas?
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, LOL, get fucked at May 21, 2020 08:00 AM (T8HPM)
~~~~~

Having been exposed for the charlatan that he is, he has gone into hiding.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 21, 2020 08:20 AM (sGotD)

106 Active shooter NAS Corpus Christie

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 21, 2020 08:21 AM (nRk/c)

107 grammie, sorry, but this made me laugh and happy I am no longer on the board of directors.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 21, 2020 08:19 AM (EZebt)



That's okay San Fran. I'm laughing too. Rev just said he's going to write a doctoral thesis on how to royally screw up a church.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 21, 2020 08:21 AM (lwiT4)

108 94 Sitting here reading of all the shortages we're facing I can't help but hear Ronald Reagan telling us that the US could lead the world with a "service economy". That was the single biggest blunder of his administration. And we are now paying the price for it.
Posted by: creeper at May 21, 2020 08:19 AM (XxJt1)


I would say Simpson-Mazzoli Act, or picking Bush-41 instead of Paul Laxxalt. Although that might have caused the ancestors of today's Never-Trumpers to jump ship and vote Carter/Mondale.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 21, 2020 08:22 AM (s2VJv)

109 "This is known as "bad luck"!

Robert A Heinlein"

Another favorite of mine.


As well as Chesterton's Fence.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 08:22 AM (3D/fK)

110 Just to be clear, I said power, not right. They have the power to make your life very miserable if you don't comply.

hmm, yep, I used the wrong word.

I shouldn't have said right , power is accurate as government is not granted rights, but certain powers. I guess a right grants power to the individual, no?

#notalawyer

But I was hoping that Tucker would bring up the 2nd Amendment to Dershowitz yesterday.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - Have you reported in to your assigned Contact Tracer today? at May 21, 2020 08:22 AM (pnfZk)

111 84

Anybody have a link to that quote that we see here sometimes

The one about tyranny by do-gooders is worse than the tyranny of the evil oppressor

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 08:15 AM

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victim may be the most oppressive.

It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.

The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 21, 2020 08:22 AM (Do5/p)

112 Mildly worried about KTE she has a low grade trmp (100) last night and she saud she was s but dizzy yesterday
This is her day off from her essential retail work so hopefully she'll sleep it off

Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 21, 2020 08:23 AM (G546f)

113 Dertz is using The Greater Good to claim authority.

People think The Greater Good is Good For Me.


Until it isn't.

Posted by: davidt at May 21, 2020 08:23 AM (l3+k2)

114 Corpus Christi link

https://tinyurl.com/ybngv4du

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 08:23 AM (3D/fK)

115 I'm still flabbergasted by a shouting match I got into with a neighbor yesterday afternoon.

It all started when I mentioned I hoped my daughter to attend her band camp in June, which led to school in the fall where he proclaimed we could NEVER go back to the "old way." I disagreed. He eventually let his full freak TDS flag fly and how he was telling people to inject things into themselves and HCQ was KILLING PEOPLE.

I do feel bad for calling him an idiot a few times. He kept railing on about FOX NEWS, to which I mentioned "I don't even have CABLE." Yes, he gets HIS news from XiNN. He actually believed Fredo Cuomo was locked in his basement for 2 weeks. He later asked me to send him that, which I did.

I will not be discussing this shit with him anymore.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 21, 2020 08:23 AM (Zz0t1)

116 >>104
Did all of you get your "letter to self" written? You know, to cover your ass legally? Posted by: Seems Legit at May 21, 2020 08:20 AM (jUVms)

Yes. It sits in the attorney's safe. A similar letter in form and intent but diametrically opposed in message sits in another attorney's vault. The second attorney has been instructed to read his contradictory letter a few days after the first letter is released to the public.
Mutated.

Posted by: Zod at May 21, 2020 08:23 AM (qXNVo)

117 Welp, off to the minefields. I'll try to check in here between explosions.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 21, 2020 08:23 AM (lwiT4)

118 Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at May 21, 2020 08:24 AM (NWiLs)

119 115
I will not be discussing this shit with him anymore.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 21, 2020 08:23 AM (Zz0t1)

==========

The number of people who can talk about politics beyond talking points levels of depth and are open to hearing another viewpoint are tiny.

I avoid politics in daily life as much as possible. I learned that in high school. It's just not worth the aggravation.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 08:25 AM (LvTSG)

120 She would not dare arrest the President over a mask

Does anyone know if DJT supplements his secret service detail with his own private muscle? I've suspected he does, particularly after that derp state hosebag said she wouldn't take a bullet for him, but I've never had that confirmed.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 21, 2020 08:26 AM (y7DUB)

121 Mixed bag. We thought we had it, then they walked it back, now they've walked it forward but only halfway (we can serve communion to small groups at a time, but then they walked it back again to mid-June. We have half the church furious that we are trying to re-open, and the other half furious at us because we're not open. I am sick to my stomach and can barely sleep. Today we have another confrontation, er, I mean - meeting. It'll be ugly. Ah well....
Posted by: grammie winger at May 21, 2020 08:11 AM (lwiT4)

Bring a pistol. Wave it around during points you wish to emphasize.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 21, 2020 08:26 AM (NWiLs)

122 Damn, I'm so sorry grammie.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 21, 2020 08:27 AM (dUJdY)

123 84 CS

Of all the tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under the omnipotent moral busybodies.

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 08:27 AM (JFO2v)

124 I see the out of control Michigan AG has ordered Trump to wear a mask when he visits that Michigan auto plant today or...or what?

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He should, and he should have it hanging around his elbow, knee, etc.

Lets get into the topic of wearing them properly and let 30M people realize they're not.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19 at May 21, 2020 08:28 AM (ADuZP)

125 Just saw s congrats tweet from Trump to daughter Tiffany for graduating from Georgetown Law

"Just what I need is a lawyer in the family"

Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 21, 2020 08:28 AM (G546f)

126 Trump makes dad jokes LOL

Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 21, 2020 08:29 AM (G546f)

127 Too bad I am too old for the new Cold War because this one is going to be a doozy!

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 21, 2020 08:29 AM (JUOKG)

128 @93

This scam has been devoid of logic, reason and actual science from it's inception.


This is all part of the Plandemic.


And when this op fails, they will be off to the next one.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 21, 2020 08:29 AM (T+XCu)

129 Can you imagine what would have happened if hillary was president when this pandemic hit? 
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1) you would hear nothing about it unless it could be blamed on conservatives.
2) all websites that discuss any news would be required to have a license from the FEC and FCC
3) All comments would require registration and the website would be required to share that list with the Feds.
4) any comment or website that spreads "fake news" would be deleted and possibly fined.

They were one vote away from the Supreme Court declaring 2-4 Constitutional
One vote.
Merrick Garland was the vote they needed.
And ace.mu.nu would be a 404 page.

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 21, 2020 08:29 AM (aO8Gd)

130 I will not be discussing this shit with him anymore.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 21, 2020 08:23 AM (Zz0t1)

It's a minefield. I've had similar experiences.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 08:30 AM (H8QX8)

131 Mixed bag. We thought we had it, then they walked it back, now they've walked it forward but only halfway (we can serve communion to small groups at a time, but then they walked it back again to mid-June. We have half the church furious that we are trying to re-open, and the other half furious at us because we're not open. I am sick to my stomach and can barely sleep. Today we have another confrontation, er, I mean - meeting. It'll be ugly. Ah well....
Posted by: grammie winger


Get one more than half that wants to open and then do like the left:

Open and claim "Democracy".

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 08:30 AM (qBbz7)

132 Captain H -

I seem to recall that early on he had a driver / bodyguard / factotum kind of guy with him, dunno if that continued ....

Before the Presidency he had one of those rare and coveted NYC carry permits, and was known to carry ... I sincerely hope he still does.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 21, 2020 08:31 AM (cqteU)

133 And when this op fails, they will be off to the next one.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 21, 2020 08:29 AM (T+XCu)

Impeachment 10.0

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 08:31 AM (JFO2v)

134 "Get one more than half that wants to open and then do like the left:

Open and claim "Democracy".

Or ignore all that voting stuff, and just open up.


'Even if it saves just one soul'

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 08:32 AM (3D/fK)

135 133 And when this op fails, they will be off to the next one.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 21, 2020 08:29 AM (T+XCu)

Impeachment 10.0
Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 08:31 AM (JFO2v)

===========

"We are totally not tired of this. At all."
-The American people

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 08:32 AM (LvTSG)

136 105

So my XO emailed this morning saying he was trying to figure out what happened to Dr. Fauci.

I can't find anything in the news.

Any ideas?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, LOL, get fucked at May 21, 2020 08:00 AM
~~~~~

Having been exposed for the charlatan that he is, he has gone into hiding.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 21, 2020 08:20 AM

I found it interesting to read in the timeline Matt Margolis put together (from yesterday's Morning Report links, I think) that back in February, Dr. Fauci was on record stating:

February 17: Dr. Fauci says that the risk of coronavirus infection in the United States is "minuscule."

Funny, I don't recall the media ever asking their new idol about this statement...

https://bit.ly/3bPj3WH

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 21, 2020 08:32 AM (Do5/p)

137 So now that the CDC has announced that you can't get the Lung AIDS from casually touching surfaces, what has changed in our panic response?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19 at May 21, 2020 08:32 AM (ADuZP)

138 Before the Presidency he had one of those rare and coveted NYC carry permits, and was known to carry ... I sincerely hope he still does.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 21, 2020 08:31 AM (cqteU)

Stossel tried to get one. I think he spent about a year and $4k and never got one.

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 08:32 AM (JFO2v)

139 "Funny, I don't recall the media ever asking their new idol about this statement... "

What statement?

Posted by: The MSM at May 21, 2020 08:33 AM (3D/fK)

140 Thank you, JJ for the links.
Off to read them.

Stop RICO "America".

Posted by: RICO aka msm/dnc/bureaucracy/and now judiciary at May 21, 2020 08:33 AM (x6XkS)

141 Kamala-Toe Harris Pushes Bill Condemning the Term "Chinese Virus" as Racist



Fuck you dick licker. I'll call it whatever I damn well please.

And people will push this cvnt as a possible VP.

LOFuckingL

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 08:33 AM (qBbz7)

142 137 So now that the CDC has announced that you can't get the Lung AIDS from casually touching surfaces, what has changed in our panic response?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19 at May 21, 2020 08:32 AM (ADuZP)

It is pure RNA surrounded by a fat molecule. Easily destroyed by heat or lack of moisture.

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 08:34 AM (JFO2v)

143 " So now that the CDC has announced that you can't get the Lung AIDS from casually touching surfaces, what has changed in our panic response?"

Maybe we can now find Lysol wipes in the store?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 08:34 AM (3D/fK)

144 So the Left's main criticism of Trump re: COVID is
it didnt have to be this bad if only he made better decisions earlier (testing, lockdown, etc)

Meanwhile on local pols like Cuomo and Murphy throwing old people out of hospitals and causing ~50% of the overall deaths... crickets...

Posted by: McCool at May 21, 2020 08:34 AM (lWCRE)

145 133 And when this op fails, they will be off to the next one.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 21, 2020 08:29 AM (T+XCu)

This is why it's important to direct our fire not at the op in particular but the people and ideology behind it -- the Left. We need to fight the Left as a unified entity, and explain how and why all these attacks arise from same motives.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 08:35 AM (H8QX8)

146 Question:

If the president wants to buy and carry a gun on him, does he still go through the background check?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 08:35 AM (LvTSG)

147 So my XO emailed this morning saying he was trying to figure out what happened to Dr. Fauci.

I can't find anything in the news.


Fauci himself possibly having the virus while Trump continues to be clear pretty much destroyed his usefulness to the Left.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 21, 2020 08:35 AM (6XLoz)

148 I do feel bad for calling him an idiot a few times. He kept railing on about FOX NEWS, to which I mentioned "I don't even have CABLE." Yes, he gets HIS news from XiNN. He actually believed Fredo Cuomo was locked in his basement for 2 weeks. He later asked me to send him that, which I did.

I will not be discussing this shit with him anymore.
Posted by: Sponge

My sister and BIL watch CNN/MSNBC about 24 hours a day. If I put forth a contrarian view that has not been reported on the "news", they accuse you of watching FAUX news...giggle.
I tell them nope, just JJ's Fabulous Wake UP and Smell the Coffee Daily News!

Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2020 08:35 AM (vd8XM)

149 I have a friend, smart, educated (a therapist) not particularly political but a default Democrat (her lesbian girlfriend is MAGA as anything go figure) and she keeps asking me whether I think there will be a much worse second wave. Because she keeps reading that is what is coming.

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I guess you could reassure her by reiterating all of the ridiculous, never-realized doomsday predictions from the "experts" that never came to pass. And maybe use that as a guide to not put much faith into the continued "second wave" hysteria they're trying to use to continue this madness.

Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 21, 2020 08:35 AM (O+I8R)

150 We'd be better of forcibly injecting the JJ News into America's brain than forcibly injecting a Gates/W.H.O. vaccine into America's arm. Can we forcibly shut down propaganda media, and only allow actual "True News"?


Well no, but it is the MSM that needs the "Hazardous to your Health, Propaganda funded by Enemies of the State" warning label, instead real news gets censored, real online sources get defunded or shadow banned ... it really is a war.


("airwaves" do have some national interest requirements that get ignored, as do the tax funded universities and public schools)

Posted by: illiniwek at May 21, 2020 08:36 AM (Cus5s)

151 >>141
Kamala-Toe Harris Pushes Bill Condemning the Term "Chinese Virus" as Racist

...and another slow-pitch opportunity to own the insult sails over the plate.

Posted by: Zod at May 21, 2020 08:36 AM (qXNVo)

152 The number of people who can talk about politics beyond talking points levels of depth and are open to hearing another viewpoint are tiny.

I avoid politics in daily life as much as possible. I learned that in high school. It's just not worth the aggravation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 08:25 AM (LvTSG)


It's why I think one of the best things a candidate for president has ever said was by Rick Perry.

"My goal is to make the federal government as inconsequential in your lives as possible."

THIS shit is what happens when it's NOT.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 21, 2020 08:36 AM (Zz0t1)

153 I avoid politics in daily life as much as possible. I learned that in high school. It's just not worth the aggravation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 08:25 AM (LvTSG)


Oddly enough my older daughter is one of the few libs I can argue politics with without any acrimony. When she was growing up we butted heads constantly over the fact that I was her father and not her friend and she had to take it on faith that I was acting in her best interest. Somehow the wisdom of that penetrated her noggin in her late teens and we've gotten along great since then. We don't always agree but we don't scream at each other.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 21, 2020 08:37 AM (y7DUB)

154 What we are dealing with right now is a monstrous fraud and power-grab that makes even the Shampeachment and Coup look amateurish, because right now, it's working. Our right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness has been stripped before our eyes. The fact that Dershowitz cannot see this, or worse, that he is perhaps arguing in the abstract, makes his statement that much more monstrous.
_________

I'm going to make myself unpopular again. While the first sentence is true (though I think the Coup worse, and don't think it's workings so well as implied above), the rest just isn't.

The image of what the Constitution means in people's minds just isn't what it really means. I recommend Richard Epstein here. He's a libertarian, and also one hell of a legal scholar. While my underlying beliefs are miles from his at the philosophical level, I cannot recommend him highly enough.

He will tell you that emergency police powers were always part of the bargain. And that the solution to the problem - which he agrees is a big problem, a power grab, and a fraud - is a shit ton more complicated than that. The real question is how to limit the eternally present possibility of abuse, and reverse the damage done when that occurs. As it inevitably will.

The point of the use of "democracy" is that it IS an element in our system, and is supposed to be a check on the governors (small-g - all the pols, that is). And while I too often use the "republic, not democracy" argument, remember it's quite well established. See Tocqueville, for instance. (And no, it wasn't just because he was a Frenchman he said that. They used "republic" just as well as we did. And by his time, those like him idolized neither word the way we too often do. They'd learnt better, though their descendants forgot.)

I think Dersh is largely a legal positivist, and if you take that line, then you end up where he is. But even that has some bit of truth in it. From a legal perspective, there's a lot to say for "the law is what it says", but even using original intent, it won't mechanically solve all. You have to go higher, to the laws of Nature and of Nature's God for that.

Bottom line: our system is not a perfect machine, and it cannot be expected to generate, automatically, the best results.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 21, 2020 08:37 AM (ZbwAu)

155
I saw the best response to Dershowitz's opinions on mandatory vaccinations at thedonald.win: "But what if the needle contains tattoo ink, Dersh?"

Posted by: fktheleft at May 21, 2020 08:38 AM (I54dk)

156 I have a friend, smart, educated (a therapist) not particularly political but a default Democrat (her lesbian girlfriend is MAGA as anything go figure) and she keeps asking me whether I think there will be a much worse second wave. Because she keeps reading that is what is coming.


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North Carolina has 700 deaths.

Out of 250K+ tests.

Out of ten point five million people.

It started rolling back in November, so we missed the first wave. If this virus is so super duper contagious that we all need to wear masks, then we have to be on wave three to five by now.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19 at May 21, 2020 08:38 AM (ADuZP)

157 Dershowitz Assumes a Lot.

Mere existence is not a threat to the health of others. Nobody has attempted to prove that Kung Flu is worse than anything. Models are not reality. Which for the senility set is why it is called a model.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 21, 2020 08:39 AM (1g7ch)

158 I sometimes have to bite my tongue, in order to not tell a close friend that her daughter would be the first one to turn her name in to the thought police, and march her to the re-education camps.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 08:39 AM (3D/fK)

159 Because places like NC reached the grim milestone of 700 deaths out of 250,000+ tests in a population of 10.5M.

Your kids go first.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fewer than 1,000 healthcare workers WORLDWIDE have died from COVID-19 at May 21, 2020 08:02 AM (aden2)

From NC stats yesterday: Fatalities in NC so far have been primarily in nursing homes (61% of 691 total). The unasked question thus far is did Cooper follow the practices of other Democrat governors and force nursing homes to accept covid 19 positive patients. Relatively low deaths will probably keep the question from getting asked. Total morbidity rate in NC is .0072%.

Posted by: Agitator at May 21, 2020 08:39 AM (y/e6R)

160 My sister and BIL watch CNN/MSNBC about 24 hours a day. If I put forth a contrarian view that has not been reported on the "news", they accuse you of watching FAUX news.

--

There is simply no way, short of true divine intervention, to get through to people who consume CNN and MSNBC 24/7. They watch that trash because they're addicted to what they're being fed. You simply can't reason with them, because it would completely break their worldview if they saw evidence to the contrary. They're mostly hopeless. They really are. Impervious to anything other than what they're spoonfed.

Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 21, 2020 08:39 AM (O+I8R)

161 It is pure RNA surrounded by a fat molecule. Easily destroyed by heat or lack of moisture.
Posted by: rhennigantx

So pretty much properly washing your hands with soap and water will kill the thing or remove it from your hands...just like any bacteria or virus.
They need a medium to live in. Moisture, oil, etc.
Food prep 101

Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2020 08:39 AM (vd8XM)

162 Morning Horde, thanks JJ.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at May 21, 2020 08:39 AM (tmA71)

163 Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 21, 2020 08:31 AM (cqteU)

Thank you. I suspect that if he does it wouldn't be well publicized for a number of reasons.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 21, 2020 08:40 AM (y7DUB)

164 It started rolling back in November, so we missed the first wave. If this virus is so super duper contagious that we all need to wear masks, then we have to be on wave three to five by now.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19 at May 21, 2020 08:38 AM (ADuZP)

In Texas were are up to over 50k positive test. And daily growth is around 900 to 1400 cases. So 2 to 2.5% growth daily is NOT very contagious.

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 08:40 AM (JFO2v)

165 Let me use a well-known parallel. The assumption by Julius of dictatorial powers was not in itself a threat to the Roman Republic. That was actually something they had provided for. What he did (and Octavian cemented) was to make it a permanent rather than a temporary feature.

And the founders understood that, as we can see by their admiration of Cincinnatus. Who used it as designed.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 21, 2020 08:40 AM (ZbwAu)

166 So does this mean we can castrate Joe Biden?

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 21, 2020 08:40 AM (Z+IKu)

167 "My goal is to make the federal government as inconsequential in your lives as possible."


Great line, wish I could believe it. Would President Perry be doing anything differently than Trump right now? To follow through on Perry's goal would require a patriotic commitment and ruthlessness not apparent among our politicians.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 08:41 AM (H8QX8)

168 So pretty much properly washing your hands with soap and water will kill the thing or remove it from your hands...just like any bacteria or virus.

It was reported early on that soap is as effective as hand sanitizer on this thing. I suspect the two weeks of "wash your hands a lot" that preceded the lockdowns actually was more effective than the actual lockdowns.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 21, 2020 08:41 AM (6XLoz)

169 Speaking of Dershowitz...

I recently watched "Reversal of Fortune," about 20 years after everybody else did, I guess.

It's very good! Jeremy Irons is wunnerful as Claus von Bulow.

Posted by: mnw at May 21, 2020 08:41 AM (Cssks)

170 158 I sometimes have to bite my tongue, in order to not tell a close friend that her daughter would be the first one to turn her name in to the thought police, and march her to the re-education camps.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 08:39 AM (3D/fK)

I assume that of my daughter.

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 08:42 AM (JFO2v)

171 If you're old and senile like me and have a hard time following the convolutions of the Flynn saga, Eli Lake has an excellent, lucid summary at Commentary called "The Railroading of Michael Flynn."

Posted by: Caliban at May 21, 2020 08:42 AM (QE8X6)

172 They're mostly hopeless. They really are. Impervious to anything other than what they're spoonfed.
Posted by: Lady in Black

Yep. Without sports on TV my BIL has nothing else to watch.
My sister thinks Maddow is the bomb diggity

Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2020 08:42 AM (vd8XM)

173 Food prep 101

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Hey, guess who we've let stay open as "essential" during all of this?

The criminals, drop-outs, and illegal aliens have probably been wearing gloves, though. Bonus, that has cut down on them needing to wash their hands after they use the bathroom.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19 at May 21, 2020 08:42 AM (ADuZP)

174 Question:

If the president wants to buy and carry a gun on him, does he still go through the background check?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison



No. He's already been legally and illegally background checked by the FBI.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 08:42 AM (qBbz7)

175
just heard from my boss: furlough to continue until at least 01JUN20


Posted by: AltonJackson at May 21, 2020 08:43 AM (DUIap)

176 It is pure RNA surrounded by a fat molecule. Easily destroyed by heat or lack of moisture.
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This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Lena Dunham at May 21, 2020 08:43 AM (vg8iE)

177 There is free speech, but you cannot yell FIRE in a crowded theatre. I think that's the line of thinking Derschowitz is pursuing.

Posted by: jeff carter at May 21, 2020 08:43 AM (eeyFM)

178 Dershowitz Assumes a Lot.



Mere existence is not a threat to the health of others. Nobody has
attempted to prove that Kung Flu is worse than anything. Models are not
reality. Which for the senility set is why it is called a model.






Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 21, 2020 08:39 AM

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Texas has had 1,419 deaths from the virus since they started keeping track.


That isn't even a bad flu season death total for our State of 29 MILLION people. Texas has between 2,000-9,000 flu deaths annually.


We shut the entire State down for a death rate of 0.0000489. That is not even statistical noise.


We've been had people. We have been lied to over and over by the CDC, fauci and the media.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 21, 2020 08:43 AM (JUOKG)

179 That Whitmer story about allowing the gay swingers' club to operate in juxtaposition of her SS closure of barbershops is unbelievable in the extreme. She should be...oh heck, I best not say anything more.

Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 21, 2020 08:44 AM (O+I8R)

180 177 There is free speech, but you cannot yell FIRE in a crowded theatre. I think that's the line of thinking Derschowitz is pursuing.
Posted by: jeff carter at May 21, 2020 08:43 AM (eeyFM)

yes you can just be willing to deal with consequences. That standard was changed about 70 years ago.

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 08:44 AM (JFO2v)

181 Speaking of Dershowitz...

I recently watched "Reversal of Fortune," about 20 years after everybody else did, I guess.

It's very good! Jeremy Irons is wunnerful as Claus von Bulow.
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I love that movie.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 21, 2020 08:44 AM (vg8iE)

182 137 So now that the CDC has announced that you can't get the Lung AIDS from casually touching surfaces, what has changed in our panic response?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19 at May 21, 2020 08:32 AM (ADuZP)

Remember when the Chicken Little buzz all over the Web was that it lasted on hard surfaces up to THREE DAYS? Nevermind that all viruses do that. Good times, good times.

Posted by: Caliban at May 21, 2020 08:45 AM (QE8X6)

183 I sometimes have to bite my tongue, in order to not tell a close friend that her daughter would be the first one to turn her name in to the thought police, and march her to the re-education camps.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 08:39 AM (3D/fK)

I assume that of my daughter.
Posted by: rhennigantx


I have cousins like that. I have so far successfully avoided having to tell my sister why I won't join their Zoom conversations on Saturday nights.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 08:45 AM (qBbz7)

184 179 That Whitmer story about allowing the gay swingers' club to operate in juxtaposition of her SS closure of barbershops is unbelievable in the extreme. She should be...oh heck, I best not say anything more.
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 21, 2020 08:44 AM (O+I8R)

barbers should add glory holes and have 55 gallon drums of astroglide TADA

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 08:45 AM (JFO2v)

185 On Virginia Peninsula health district (pop.350,000), holding steady now for a week at 31 deaths, with data from early February. 24 of those 31 are 70+. That's 8.8e-5. i used to be able to know what that means. But as math is prohibited here, i will only say... seems a bit low for a death wave.

Posted by: goatexchange at May 21, 2020 08:46 AM (iUjXP)

186 The criminals, drop-outs, and illegal aliens have probably been wearing gloves, though. Bonus, that has cut down on them needing to wash their hands after they use the bathroom.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

I love them gloves on workers.
As they prep your food, open up shipper boxes to get some more ingredients to apply to your food with the same gloved hand. Take your money, give you change, and on to the next customer!\

All kinds of safe!

Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2020 08:46 AM (vd8XM)

187 Can we forcibly shut down propaganda media, and only allow actual "True News"?


Well no,


Given Dershowitz's new logic, we can.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 21, 2020 08:46 AM (oVJmc)

188 There is free speech, but you cannot yell FIRE in a crowded theatre. I think that's the line of thinking Derschowitz is pursuing.
Posted by: jeff carter at May 21, 2020 08:43 AM (eeyFM)

yes you can just be willing to deal with consequences. That standard was changed about 70 years ago.
Posted by: rhennigantx


The flip side to that is, if there really is a fire.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 08:46 AM (qBbz7)

189 Hare, Hunter, Forest....

Posted by: Archer at May 21, 2020 08:46 AM (gmo/4)

190 Unlike a lot of people on our side I have no problem with mask wearing in close quarters in humans for protection against asymptomatic people infecting others.

But man, are they uncomfortable, and they make breathing a little difficult for me . I'm at the doctor's office and will be having a procedure done so I will have to wear it the whole time. Sigh.

However, on my way here I saw a man out on a walk with a mask on. There was no other pedestrian anywhere close. To each his own, I guess.

Posted by: chique d'Epstein didn't off hisself at May 21, 2020 08:47 AM (hxWs0)

191 So the Governor is ordering PDT to wear a mask. Begs the question "how many divisions does she have?".

Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 21, 2020 08:47 AM (C1Lsn)

192 That isn't even a bad flu season death total for our State of 29 MILLION people. Texas has between 2,000-9,000 flu deaths annually.


We shut the entire State down for a death rate of 0.0000489. That is not even statistical noise.


We've been had people. We have been lied to over and over by the CDC, fauci and the media.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 21, 2020 08:43 AM (JUOKG)

I bet 50% of deaths are in nursing or assisted living.

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 08:47 AM (JFO2v)

193 Great line, wish I could believe it. Would President Perry be doing anything differently than Trump right now? To follow through on Perry's goal would require a patriotic commitment and ruthlessness not apparent among our politicians.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 08:41 AM (H8QX


Agreed. Perry was a shitty candidate, drug habit notwithstanding. What he did to Texas with the toll roads is unforgivable.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 21, 2020 08:47 AM (Zz0t1)

194 There is free speech, but you cannot yell FIRE in a
crowded theatre. I think that's the line of thinking Derschowitz is
pursuing.

Posted by: jeff carter at May 21, 2020 08:43 AM (eeyFM)



yes you can just be willing to deal with consequences. That standard was changed about 70 years ago.


Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 08:44 AM

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You can't cry Wolf in a crowded theater you idiots.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at May 21, 2020 08:48 AM (JUOKG)

195 The flip side to that is, if there really is a fire.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 08:46 AM (qBbz7)

When I hear people say war is not the answer I ask them what if the question is Hitler?

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 08:48 AM (JFO2v)

196

Looks like Jabba the Pritzker is starting to back down mostly likely because Mike Madigan is catching a world of shit and is telling Jabba to get things open again. Over the weekend Jabba said he would fine or arrest any business that opened against his schedule. He pulled that. And Phase 3 will "most likely" start May 29. Included in that bars and restaurants can start reopening at the end of month with outdoor seating and he may be able to make more adjustments based on "the science". Again the science is Madigan telling him this has to move forward.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 21, 2020 08:48 AM (TJfg+)

197 Gov. Holcomb in Hoosierland enacted Phase 3 of reopening the state two days early. Three counties are set for this phase on June 1. My gym opens tomorrow, so maybe I can work off some of this beer and pizza gut.

Posted by: Fortcoins at May 21, 2020 08:48 AM (1vIuC)

198 Anyone have a link to a formal annual-deaths statistic page to see this year compared to past years? Doing a search is absolutely pointless. The algorithms push the "THIS ISN'T THE FLU, GUYS!!!" results to the top.

Yes, I know. I just want to compare data.
THIS ISN'T THE FLU, GUYS!!!
Thanks, I know, I don't think it's the flu. I just need to see if the numbers for this year are much different than previous years.
THIS ISN'T THE FLU, GUYS!!!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19 at May 21, 2020 08:48 AM (ADuZP)

199 However, on my way here I saw a man out on a walk with a mask on. There was no other pedestrian anywhere close. To each his own, I guess.
Posted by: chique d'Epstein

Just got done with a delicious lunch and wanted to savor the smell

Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2020 08:48 AM (vd8XM)

200 You can't cry Wolf in a crowded theater you idiots.
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at May 21, 2020 08:48 AM (JUOKG)

but you can throw wolf shit

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 08:49 AM (JFO2v)

201 Can we forcibly shut down propaganda media, and only allow actual "True News"?


Well no,

Given Dershowitz's new logic, we can.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 21, 2020 08:46 AM (oVJmc)


Only if you assume the vaccine is not poison.
Doesn't matter if is poison or not though.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 21, 2020 08:49 AM (1g7ch)

202
In Texas were are up to over 50k positive test. And daily growth is around 900 to 1400 cases. So 2 to 2.5% growth daily is NOT very contagious.
Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 08:40 AM (JFO2v)


According to my neighbor, it's "BECAUSE THE LOCKDOWN WORKED!!!!!!"

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 21, 2020 08:49 AM (Zz0t1)

203 They're mostly hopeless. They really are. Impervious to anything other than what they're spoonfed.
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 21, 2020 08:39 AM (O+I8R)

The number of very intelligent and accomplished people I know completely hopeless in this respect is astonishing. These are hard-working and industrious people, good parents, responsible citizens, but utterly unable to think for themselves outside the orthodoxies packaged and delivered by NY Times, NPR, NY Review of Books, Atlantic, etc. They are so deeply invested in narratives about fat white greedy capitalists and noble leftwing activists, there is simply no opening for another point of view. And yet they have strong self image as open-minded and enlightened.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 08:49 AM (H8QX8)

204 So my XO emailed this morning saying he was trying to figure out what happened to Dr. Fauci.

I can't find anything in the news.

Any ideas?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, LOL, get fucked at May 21, 2020 08:00 AM (T8HPM)



He's on the run from Jim West and Artemis Gordon

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 21, 2020 08:49 AM (TJfg+)

205 And Phase 3 will "most likely" start May 29. Included in that bars and restaurants can start reopening at the end of month with outdoor seating and he may be able to make more adjustments based on "the science". Again the science is Madigan telling him this has to move forward.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 21, 2020 08:48 AM (TJfg+)

part of the 37 step 10 year plan

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 08:49 AM (JFO2v)

206 Morning.

Dershowitz is a lefty. He came out against shampeachment but always remember he is a lefty.

Posted by: Robert at May 21, 2020 08:50 AM (bod0u)

207
but you can throw wolf shit
Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 08:49 AM (JFO2v)


I thought that was only at the Rocky Horror Picture Show showings.......

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 21, 2020 08:50 AM (Zz0t1)

208 So the next time you hear Dershowitz holding forth about due process, realize he is lying and full of shit. What he has done here is conflate extraordinary emergency powers with arbitrary deprivation of liberty and property. It's a sloppy argument but probably reflects how this leftist thinks.

We have arrived at the place where a "civil libertarian" doesn't believe in the Fifth and 14th Amendments and, when pressed, the Rule of Law generally. Under this argument, we can dispense with courts and allow elected officials and unelected bureaucrats rule by decree and edict. It's the left-wing model and ideal anyhow.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 21, 2020 08:50 AM (puu6v)

209 We've been had people. We have been lied to over and over by the CDC, fauci and the media.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 21, 2020 08:43 AM (JUOKG)



I bet 50% of deaths are in nursing or assisted living.


Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 08:47 AM


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Pretty sure they are too. One of the death's we had in Fannin County was a 78 year old at the State VA nursing home. You don't get put in there unless you are on your last legs with zero resources.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 21, 2020 08:50 AM (JUOKG)

210 Dershowitz is a lefty. He came out against shampeachment but always remember he is a lefty.
Posted by: Robert at May 21, 2020 08:50 AM (bod0u)


Blind squirrel. Nut.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 21, 2020 08:50 AM (Zz0t1)

211 146 Question:

If the president wants to buy and carry a gun on him, does he still go through the background check?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 08:35 AM (LvTSG)


I have always assumed that he was armed when he goes out. Don't know why exactly, maybe because he does not strike me as the type to rely 100% on others for his safety, or maybe because he always has at least two ways to winning in any negotiation and I am simply carrying that forward.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 21, 2020 08:51 AM (kUmUV)

212 Looks like Jabba the Pritzker is starting to back down mostly likely because Mike Madigan is catching a world of shit and is telling Jabba to get things open again. Over the weekend Jabba said he would fine or arrest any business that opened against his schedule. He pulled that. And Phase 3 will "most likely" start May 29. Included in that bars and restaurants can start reopening at the end of month with outdoor seating and he may be able to make more adjustments based on "the science". Again the science is Madigan telling him this has to move forward.
Posted by: TheQuietMan

I did notice that sometime in the dead of night, the Stage 5 plan was changed. The "vaccine or other preventative must be in place" or some such goobeldy go ok was removed

Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2020 08:51 AM (vd8XM)

213 In Texas were are up to over 50k positive test. And daily growth is around 900 to 1400 cases. So 2 to 2.5% growth daily is NOT very contagious.
Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 08:40 AM (JFO2v)

According to my neighbor, it's "BECAUSE THE LOCKDOWN WORKED!!!!!!"
Posted by: Sponge


Except for Sam's, Wal Mart, Costco, Kroger, HEB, Lowe's, Home Depot, all the fast food joints, etc etc etc

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 08:51 AM (qBbz7)

214 However, on my way here I saw a man out on a walk with a mask on. There was no other pedestrian anywhere close. To each his own, I guess.

Posted by: chique d'Epstein

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Yep. They have mind-f*cked people so badly with all of this. We routinely drive the back roads outside of Charlotte. It's fairly common to see old people wearing masks and gloves as they drive, alone, on a country road with no one else around for miles.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19 at May 21, 2020 08:52 AM (ADuZP)

215 It is pure RNA surrounded by a fat molecule. Easily destroyed by heat or lack of moisture.

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 08:34 AM (JFO2v)

A bit more complicated than that. They have proteins on the surface, which is what binds to the cell's receptors.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 21, 2020 08:52 AM (dLLD6)

216 We've been had people. We have been lied to over and over by the CDC, fauci and the media.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 21, 2020 08:43 AM (JUOKG)


The worst offenders were the online panic mongers.

We had 'em here. They've been surprisingly silent lately. But not a damn one has had the decency to admit they were wrong.

Posted by: I Have No Party at May 21, 2020 08:52 AM (fkLIX)

217 Would President Perry be doing anything differently than Trump right now? To follow through on Perry's goal would require a patriotic commitment and ruthlessness not apparent among our politicians.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 08:41 AM (H8QX


I thought it was obvious to everyone that Gaylordcare was passed illegally through Congress. Whether or not that was the issue before Queen Roberts when the "it's a tax" casuistry was used to cement it in place, it illustrated the contortions the statists would go through to get around that bothersome Constitution. Contrast that to the dawdling Paul Ryan did before coming up with a terrible repeal bill, instead of just resubmitting the one Gaylord vetoed, and you have a bought and paid for party willing to act against the people they vowed to represent.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 21, 2020 08:52 AM (y7DUB)

218 but you can throw wolf shit
Posted by: rhennigantx

But you can throw Wolf Blitzer!

There, I can runs rings around you logically

Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2020 08:52 AM (vd8XM)

219 204 He's on the run from Jim West and Artemis Gordon
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 21, 2020 08:49 AM (TJfg+)

=========

Wild.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 08:52 AM (LvTSG)

220 If the president wants to buy and carry a gun on him, does he still go through the background check?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 08:35 AM (LvTSG)



I have always assumed that he was armed when he goes out. Don't
know why exactly, maybe because he does not strike me as the type to
rely 100% on others for his safety, or maybe because he always has at
least two ways to winning in any negotiation and I am simply carrying
that forward.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 21, 2020 08:51 AM

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If I was President I damn sure would be carrying 24/7.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 21, 2020 08:52 AM (JUOKG)

221 Seagulls are dicks.

Beggars and dicks.

I was feeding a couple yesterday and suddenly ten bajillion of the little bastards (give or take) showed up wanting num nums.

Posted by: Robert at May 21, 2020 08:53 AM (bod0u)

222 I bet 50% of deaths are in nursing or assisted living.

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I'd bet closer to 70%+, personally. But we can't release that information because HIPAA. Oh, and also because people wouldn't be inclined to cower in fear, wear masks, and worry about their imminent death.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19 at May 21, 2020 08:53 AM (ADuZP)

223


According to John Kass of the Tribune some of the big restaurant owners in Chicago are really pushing back and a number of black church ministers are really giving them grief. He said it's one thing for Lightfoot to shut down a Romanian church let's see her send cops to shut down churches on the south side.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 21, 2020 08:54 AM (TJfg+)

224 220 If I was President I damn sure would be carrying 24/7.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 21, 2020 08:52 AM (JUOKG)

=========

You never see a president carrying in movies.

I want to see that now.

"Mr. President, the White House has been breached."
-Secret Service

"Fuck 'em."
-POTUS, pulling back the hammer

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 08:54 AM (LvTSG)

225
Except for Sam's, Wal Mart, Costco, Kroger, HEB, Lowe's, Home Depot, all the fast food joints, etc etc etc
Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 08:51 AM (qBbz7)


My neighbor has proven to be an idiot, so........

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 21, 2020 08:54 AM (Zz0t1)

226 It was reported early on that soap is as effective as hand sanitizer on this thing. I suspect the two weeks of "wash your hands a lot" that preceded the lockdowns actually was more effective than the actual lockdowns.
Posted by: Ian S. at May 21, 2020 08:41 AM (6XLoz)


Washing hands a lot wouldn't crash the economy or establish de facto martial law.

So, in the eyes of many, it would not be as effective.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 21, 2020 08:54 AM (1g7ch)

227 "174 Question:

If the president wants to buy and carry a gun on him, does he still go through the background check?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison



No. He's already been legally and illegally background checked by the FBI.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 08:42 AM (qBbz7) "




But really, why bother ?
As C - in - C he can just issue himself anything he wants out of the nearest armory.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 21, 2020 08:54 AM (cqteU)

228 We've been had people. We have been lied to over and over by the CDC, fauci and the media.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 21, 2020 08:43 AM (JUOKG)



The worst offenders were the online panic mongers.



We had 'em here. They've been surprisingly silent lately. But not a damn one has had the decency to admit they were wrong.

Posted by: I Have No Party at May 21, 2020 08:52 AM

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Something has changed. My buddy from CT has dropped the "we are all going to die" schitck in the last few days. Now he is on the open up bandwagon.

cnn and msnbc must be changing their tune. Oh and he hasn't said word one about Trump in the last week or so.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 21, 2020 08:55 AM (JUOKG)

229 227 But really, why bother ?
As C - in - C he can just issue himself anything he wants out of the nearest armory.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 21, 2020 08:54 AM (cqteU)

===========

"That bazooka like nice..."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 08:55 AM (LvTSG)

230 Except for Sam's, Wal Mart, Costco, Kroger, HEB, Lowe's, Home Depot, all the fast food joints, etc etc etc

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This boat ramp is not safe! Go to the Walmart with the other people!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19 at May 21, 2020 08:55 AM (ADuZP)

231 The difference between Houston (damn near everywhere I go I am in the small minority of non mask wearers) to rural Texas just 90 miles out (mask? what the hell are you on son?) is striking.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at May 21, 2020 08:55 AM (xceTB)

232 We had 'em here. They've been surprisingly silent lately. But not a damn one has had the decency to admit they were wrong.
Posted by: I Have No Party


Ride them like a cheap party whore.
Tell them to line up and lick and report how your ass tastes.

Don't let up. Maybe that will make them think twice about opening their mouths the next time they want to put feelz over science.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 08:56 AM (qBbz7)

233 Good news, our local hospital on the Outer Banks has opened for inpatient elective surgery and I am scheduled for hip replacement June 1. The freeze is finally thawing.

Posted by: LMD Outer Banker at May 21, 2020 08:56 AM (DiQTq)

234 He's already been legally and illegally background checked by the FBI.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 08:42 AM (qBbz7)


That's a great line. Sometimes the Horde has some real gems posing as toss off lines.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 21, 2020 08:56 AM (y7DUB)

235 The jobless report today wasn't as bad as expected, fwiw.

I never saw Montgomery Cliff improve any movie he was in. Never understood why he became a star. He was appalling in "From Here to Eternity." A champion boxer? Really?

Exactly how many pounds of disbelief am I required to suspend?

Posted by: mnw at May 21, 2020 08:56 AM (Cssks)

236 If I was President I damn sure would be carrying 24/7.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 21, 2020 08:52 AM (JUOKG)

Damned straight. MP5 ?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 21, 2020 08:57 AM (dLLD6)

237 "That bazooka like nice..."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

It'll will ruin the line of your suit sir.

I don't give a shi+!

Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2020 08:57 AM (vd8XM)

238
However, on my way here I saw a man out on a walk with a mask on. There
was no other pedestrian anywhere close. To each his own, I guess.



Posted by: chique d'Epstein


I passed an idiot driving on the highway, windows up, wearing a mask.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 21, 2020 08:57 AM (oVJmc)

239 The difference between Houston (damn near everywhere I go I am in the small minority of non mask wearers) to rural Texas just 90 miles out (mask? what the hell are you on son?) is striking.
Posted by: Heart of Darkness


26 miles due north of downtown Dallas. Just over the county line.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 08:57 AM (qBbz7)

240 Hubby Update. Thank you to everyone who put him on their prayer list. They gave him a transesophageal echocardiugram yesterday to make certain he had no blood clots in or around his heart (he said it was like swallowing a Roto Rooter). Once they knew that was OK, they zapped him and successfully restored a normal heart rhythm and rate (Heart rate at admittance was >100!)

Now they can concentrate on the infection. Still not getting good enough info from the hospital/doctors/nurses. Please keep on your list Horde.

Posted by: cfo mom at May 21, 2020 08:57 AM (RfzVr)

241 The flip side to that is, if there really is a fire.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 08:46 AM (qBbz7)


Leave first and think for a moment about pulling the alarm as you exit.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 21, 2020 08:57 AM (1g7ch)

242 I never saw Montgomery Cliff improve any movie he was in. Never understood why he became a star. He was appalling in "From Here to Eternity." A champion boxer? Really?

Exactly how many pounds of disbelief am I required to suspend?
Posted by: mnw at May 21, 2020 08:56 AM (Cssks)


You've just described about 92% of hollywood.......

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 21, 2020 08:57 AM (Zz0t1)

243 I passed an idiot driving on the highway, windows up, wearing a mask.
========

I see that shit all the time.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at May 21, 2020 08:58 AM (vg8iE)

244 I passed an idiot driving on the highway, windows up, wearing a mask.

--

Those are the funniest of all. You expecting the Ten Commandments black death fog to come wafting in through your vents?

Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 21, 2020 08:58 AM (O+I8R)

245 He's already been legally and illegally background checked by the FBI.

---

Eyes pop out

Would you be willing to testify to that? In a court of luawww?

Posted by: Adam Schiff at May 21, 2020 08:58 AM (6XLoz)

246 There was a fever over the land. A fever of disgrace, of indignity, of hunger. We had a democracy, yes, but it was torn by elements form within. Above all there was fear. Fear of today, fear of tomorrow, fear of our neighbors, and fear of ourselves.

Posted by: Archer at May 21, 2020 08:58 AM (gmo/4)

247 237 "That bazooka like nice..."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

It'll will ruin the line of your suit sir.

I don't give a shi+!
Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2020 08:57 AM (vd8XM)

=========

"Fine, I'll take the Browning M2."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 08:58 AM (LvTSG)

248 235 Wut? Clift was great in Red River, A Place in the Sun, etc. Come on man.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at May 21, 2020 08:58 AM (xceTB)

249 28 I have a friend, smart, educated (a therapist) not particularly political but a default Democrat (her lesbian girlfriend is MAGA as anything go figure) and she keeps asking me whether I think there will be a much worse second wave. Because she keeps reading that is what is coming. It's all I can do to keep her off the ledge.
Posted by: blaster at May 21, 2020 08:02 AM (ZfRYq)

It's a good thing you're a nice person. I would simply tell her, with an appropriately "straight" face, that Neil Ferguson says the virus is returning Sept. 27, probably around 3:37 PM, and is projected to kill at least five times as many people, including women, children and people of color.

Posted by: Caliban at May 21, 2020 08:58 AM (QE8X6)

250 221 Seagulls are dicks.

Beggars and dicks.

I was feeding a couple yesterday and suddenly ten bajillion of the little bastards (give or take) showed up wanting num nums.
Posted by: Robert at May 21, 2020 08:53 AM (bod0u)

flying fucking rats

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 08:58 AM (JFO2v)

251 According to my neighbor, it's "BECAUSE THE LOCKDOWN WORKED!!!!!!"
Posted by: Sponge


Except for Sam's, Wal Mart, Costco, Kroger, HEB, Lowe's, Home Depot, all the fast food joints, etc etc etc
Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 08:51 AM (qBbz7)

Don't point that out lest their brains explode.

*Wink*

The State, in its infinite wisdom *spit*, decided so-called "social distancing" would best be achieved by closing down most everything save for the most connected of businesses and guaranteeing the citizenry would be shuttled thru, and packed tighter in, the same handful of businesses.

Brilliant.

Fuck the State.

Posted by: Robert at May 21, 2020 08:58 AM (bod0u)

252 The story of the nearly-naked nurse warms my heart! There are still medical professionals with their patients best interests in mind.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 21, 2020 08:12 AM (NVYyb)

There were at least three of my nurses at Duke last week that I would have loved to have seen in that type of get up. Really good looking women and universally good, if not great medical care.

Posted by: Agitator at May 21, 2020 08:59 AM (y/e6R)

253
I passed an idiot driving on the highway, windows up, wearing a mask.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 21, 2020 08:57 AM (oVJmc)


I have a mask a friend made for me. It has a removable hepa filter or whatever that's washable. I usually, if worn, just leave it on the dash so the sun bakes it for a few hours.

I think I'm good.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 21, 2020 08:59 AM (Zz0t1)

254 "Fine, I'll take the Browning M2."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 08:58 AM (LvTSG)

dont fuck with anyone that can tote around 69 lbs

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 08:59 AM (JFO2v)

255 Plandemic is starting to look wobbly. All we need is moar Bollards and a Sunny Day and some stairs.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 21, 2020 08:59 AM (0rEk2)

256 "This boat ramp is not safe! Go to the Walmart with the other people!"


Same with the chlorinated water in the swimming pool. Under that great big UV light emitter in the sky.

Stay safe....go to Walmart.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 08:59 AM (3D/fK)

257 "I love them gloves on workers.
As they prep your food, open up shipper boxes to get some more ingredients to apply to your food with the same gloved hand. Take your money, give you change, and on to the next customer!\

All kinds of safe!

Posted by: Bruce at May 21, 2020 08:46 AM (vd8XM)"


LOL, kinda ... a lot of people just don't seem to get the idea ... I remember years ago seeing two guys in goggles, lead coats, and gloves pushing a big lead "pig" on a cart; they stopped at a washroom, and proceeded to use the urinals ... without ungloving.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 21, 2020 09:00 AM (cqteU)

258 But really, why bother ?
As C - in - C he can just issue himself anything he wants out of the nearest armory.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez,



Camp David would be a hoot.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 09:00 AM (qBbz7)

259 If this pandemic hasn't started waking people up to what Democrat control would look like if they regained power then we really are screwed.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 21, 2020 09:00 AM (wiXsO)

260 Have Bezos deliver everything. Its the end of the world!

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 21, 2020 09:00 AM (0rEk2)

261 " the state has the power to literally take you to a doctor's office and plunge a needle into your arm," Dershowitz continued..."

This is why we have The Second Amendment, and why Democrats want to obliterate it. It is pure, unmitigated despotism and should be resoundingly answered with the barrel of a gun.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 21, 2020 09:00 AM (VpIIl)

262 I assume that of my daughter.
Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 08:42 AM (JFO2v)

--------

Holy shit, really?

That's incredible.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 21, 2020 09:01 AM (jUVms)

263
Now they can concentrate on the infection. Still not getting good enough info from the hospital/doctors/nurses. Please keep on your list Horde.
Posted by: cfo mom at May 21, 2020 08:57 AM (RfzVr)


Good news. The list remains unchanged.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 21, 2020 09:01 AM (Zz0t1)

264 Why did Dershowitz go full NAZI? Does this have to do with Epstein's recordings?

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 21, 2020 09:02 AM (0rEk2)

265 I am depressed. I hope you all aren't

Have a GIF of a moron puppeh who doesn't want to be slowed down eating

https://static.espiker.com/media/75dnceJ.mp4

Posted by: Kindltot at May 21, 2020 09:02 AM (WyVLE)

266 249 28 I have a friend, smart, educated (a therapist) not particularly political but a default Democrat (her lesbian girlfriend is MAGA as anything go figure) and she keeps asking me whether I think there will be a much worse second wave. Because she keeps reading that is what is coming. It's all I can do to keep her off the ledge.
Posted by: blaster at May 21, 2020 08:02 AM (ZfRYq)

It's a good thing you're a nice person. I would simply tell her, with an appropriately "straight" face, that Neil Ferguson says the virus is returning Sept. 27, probably around 3:37 PM, and is projected to kill at least five times as many people, including women, children and people of color.
Posted by: Caliban at May 21, 2020 08:58 AM (QE8X6)

tell it is spread thru vaginal mucosa

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 09:02 AM (JFO2v)

267 I went out for a walk in the evening after dinner yesterday and saw lots of people out. 99% were not wearing masks, young, old, etc. This is in a major university town in the middle of PA (which means although rural, we have way too many liberal Karens).

Posted by: Her Thighness at May 21, 2020 09:02 AM (xU7mE)

268 The Powell interview is here at about 20 minute mark.

https://www.steynonline.com/10305/the-woman-who-saved-an-innocent-man

Posted by: MikeCLT at May 21, 2020 09:02 AM (xnhLn)

269 "Camp David would be a hoot."

Like Weasel Acres on steroids.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 09:02 AM (3D/fK)

270 there MIGHT be certain conditions under which citizens could be required to get a vaccine.


IF a bio-weapon were released that was stealthy and deadly, and the nation was really at risk of death by asymptomatic carriers ... AND the vaccine was a real answer (not a Gates fundraiser), then such government mandate might be 'constitutional' ... Defense of the Nation, martial law kinda exception I suppose.


But we see the plandemic side of this with Davos types sitting around talking about their plan to Flood the Zone, where they say they must control the narrative, use celebrities ... they discuss how to convince people with control of media.


Plus the Gates vaccine in India and Africa, as I hear it, GAVE people polio, lots of people. And Gates can't help himself from talking about curing overpopulation via his vaccine regimen.


Maybe he means by causing sterility, but I wouldn't put it past these globalists to actually kill off millions ... it's not like commies never consider genocide in their plans to run the world. (Cuomo and nursing home murders a case in point, to save a Medicaid budget problem) The WHO director that Fauci praises was a terror-linked Marxist ... and gets pushed into that post by whom?

Posted by: illiniwek at May 21, 2020 09:03 AM (Cus5s)

271 189 Hare, Hunter, Forest....
Posted by: Archer at May 21, 2020 08:46 AM (gmo/4)



Pubic hair on Hunter Biden belongs to a stripper, not the Forest Gump dad.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 21, 2020 09:03 AM (s2VJv)

272 Holy shit, really?

That's incredible.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 21, 2020 09:01 AM (jUVms)

yes

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 09:03 AM (JFO2v)

273 26 miles due north of downtown Dallas. Just over the county line.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 08:57 AM (qBbz7)

Quick question...what the hell do they do with all of those pigs people are shooting? There are dozens of videos of folks with night vision scopes nailing dozens of pigs each night. They are mostly too big to eat, so what do they do? send out excavators to bury them?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 21, 2020 09:03 AM (dLLD6)

274 It's a good thing you're a nice person. I would simply tell her, with an appropriately "straight" face, that Neil Ferguson says the virus is returning Sept. 27, probably around 3:37 PM, and is projected to kill at least five times as many people, including women, children and people of color.
Posted by: Caliban at May 21, 2020 08:58 AM (QE8X6)


LOL!

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 21, 2020 09:03 AM (Zz0t1)

275 The flip side to that is, if there really is a fire.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 08:46 AM (qBbz7)


Leave first and think for a moment about pulling the alarm as you exit.
Posted by: Burnt Toast



DA: Mr. rickb223, why didn't you alert the other moviegoers to the fire?

Me: Because democrats have told me my entire life that I can't yell fire in a crowded theater.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 09:04 AM (qBbz7)

276 According to my neighbor, it's "BECAUSE THE LOCKDOWN WORKED!!!!!!"

Tell them that they should expect to be locked down, frequently, for the remainder of their lives until the government decides that they're no longer useful.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 21, 2020 09:04 AM (Q1e7E)

277 Trump needs to lead more and stop the personalization of every issue. People are looking for leadership, not distractions. While the Flynn issue and unmasking are certainly important, right now people are still mainly worried about feeding their families and their livelihoods.

Give people hope and direction, not insights into the Washington circus act. Let Barr take care of that.

Lead, damn it.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 21, 2020 09:04 AM (VpIIl)

278 Quick question...what the hell do they do with all of those pigs people are shooting? There are dozens of videos of folks with night vision scopes nailing dozens of pigs each night. They are mostly too big to eat, so what do they do? send out excavators to bury them?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 21, 2020 09:03 AM (dLLD6)


Leave them for the wolves and other carnivorous animals to feast on.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 21, 2020 09:04 AM (Zz0t1)

279 Something has changed. My buddy from CT has dropped
the "we are all going to die" schitck in the last few days. Now he is on
the open up bandwagon.

cnn and msnbc must be changing their tune. Oh and he hasn't said word one about Trump in the last week or so.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 21, 2020 08:55 AM (JUOKG)


The ODOT "save lives stay home" mobile traffic notices have been taken down near Salem.
\
Who knows. Maybe one got vandalized, maybe someone got a rush of smarts

Posted by: Kindltot at May 21, 2020 09:04 AM (WyVLE)

280 248 Heart

I thought he sucked in "A Place In the Sun," too.

It was always said of him that he was "a woman's actor"-- that women moviegoers liked him. Damned if I know why, but then I'm not a Vagino-American.

Posted by: mnw at May 21, 2020 09:04 AM (Cssks)

281 Pubic hair on Hunter Biden belongs to a stripper, not the Forest Gump dad.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 21, 2020 09:03 AM (s2VJv)

wait wut? stripper have pubs??

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 09:04 AM (JFO2v)

282 I assume that of my daughter.
Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 08:42 AM (JFO2v)

--------

Holy shit, really?

That's incredible.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 21, 2020 09:01 AM (jUVms)


Yeah if I thought my kids would turn me in for anything other than concrete knowledge that I committed a real crime like murder, I'd consider myself a failure of a father.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 21, 2020 09:05 AM (y7DUB)

283 278 Quick question...what the hell do they do with all of those pigs people are shooting? There are dozens of videos of folks with night vision scopes nailing dozens of pigs each night. They are mostly too big to eat, so what do they do? send out excavators to bury them?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 21, 2020 09:03 AM (dLLD6)

Leave them for the wolves and other carnivorous animals to feast on.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 21, 2020 09:04 AM (Zz0t1)

buzzards gotta eat too

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 09:06 AM (JFO2v)

284 If this pandemic hasn't started waking people up to what Democrat control would look like if they regained power then we really are screwed.

--

I'd venture to say it won't wake up many. Why do I say that? Because I believe, overall, most people do not associate how they vote with outcomes. It's like Patty Duke in The Miracle Worker when she has yet to figure out the sign language she's being taught has a meaning fixed to it. These kinds of voters haven't put together that what they're doing by how they vote results in "X."

Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 21, 2020 09:06 AM (O+I8R)

285 The article said there were no complaints in the all male ward concerning the nekkid nurse. I can see why. She looks really good nekkid.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 21, 2020 09:06 AM (o2MD2)

286 Yeah if I thought my kids would turn me in for anything other than concrete knowledge that I committed a real crime like murder, I'd consider myself a failure of a father.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 21, 2020 09:05 AM (y7DUB)

I do thanks for asking

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 09:06 AM (JFO2v)

287 I hear the Redskins are looking at Stacy Abrams as a possible replacement for Trent Williams.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 21, 2020 09:06 AM (0rEk2)

288 We still have some people going for a walk with their masks on. So we've taken up pointing and laughing when we drive by them.

But hey, wear your mask forever, if you want. Just don't expect me to wear one.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 21, 2020 09:07 AM (VpIIl)

289 Quick question...what the hell do they do with all of those pigs people are shooting? There are dozens of videos of folks with night vision scopes nailing dozens of pigs each night. They are mostly too big to eat, so what do they do? send out excavators to bury them?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo



Serious as a heart attack answer: Worms gotta eat, same as the buzzards.

Drag them over to a ditch or let them lay where they fall.

Any hog much over 130 lbs isn't worth the trouble. Meat isn't worth a shit. Getting up into the 200's & 300 lb hogs is nasty meat.

Remember, these aren't farm fed hogs. These are true foragers.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 09:07 AM (qBbz7)

290 Who farted?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 21, 2020 09:07 AM (o2MD2)

291 Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE FRED FLINTSTONE at May 21, 2020 09:06 AM (Pzzpr)

You DICK!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at May 21, 2020 09:07 AM (Zz0t1)

292 Tell them that they should expect to be locked down, frequently, for the remainder of their lives until the government decides that they're no longer useful.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 21, 2020 09:04 AM (Q1e7E)


Hey! "Nonessential" was bad enough.

"Negative Utility"? sounds... negative...

I got it,
"Surplus Resources"

They can feel good while going to 'happy fun camp'.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 21, 2020 09:07 AM (1g7ch)

293 @28 blaster

Same with a friend's wife (doesn't work, no kids, +50 years old) who constantly lectures on her social media accounts and links to dubious articles, etc.. and claims "cuz science."

I blocked her and will miss her husbands garden parties, but so it goes.

Posted by: Buckeye Abroad at May 21, 2020 09:08 AM (UvkRl)

294 Dershowitz, what an idiot. I know what he's doing, for anyone who's been around Universities, especially Law Schools, there's always that Professor who delights in coming up with ridiculous, offensive arguments and then who dares anyone to challenge him, just to be an asshole. For me, the best way to respond was just to come up with total asshole replies. In this case, I would ask him "so, does this mean if there was a public health concern that really focused on one particular group of people, you could make them all wear an identifying mark, like a yellow star? You could force them all into ghetto's? If the Government decided they were a "Health Risk", could the Government put them all into Concentration Camps, and dispose of the bodies in great Crematoriums? Is that your claim, Professor Dershowitz?

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 09:08 AM (V2Yro)

295 Hi. Howdy. Howareya? Good morning. Hello.

Dershowitz goes full KungFlu Derangement Syndrome?

Sad but not entirely surprising.

Glad he had his stopped clock finds a nut moment in the coup attempt.

Posted by: mindful webworker
link: Cops Take Down Stormtrooper (fumetti)
at May 21, 2020 09:09 AM (bd376)

296 How come we're not making soap out of the NY/NJ dead? Utility comes first.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 21, 2020 09:09 AM (0rEk2)

297 Can we get back to the part where glory holes are OK for lockdown? That's *really* giving the game away.

In related news, Obama and Reggie are moving to Michigan.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 21, 2020 09:09 AM (6XLoz)

298
buzzards gotta eat too
Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 09:06 AM (JFO2v)


We shot a couple hogs when the deer hunt was going nowhere. We just left the carcasses where they lie and took off. We came back the next weekend and the smaller one I shot was gone and we found the bones, in full skeletal structure, of the other about 200 yards away from the kill point next to a creek. They picked it CLEAN.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 21, 2020 09:09 AM (Zz0t1)

299 Judgment At Nuremburg is also relevant because out of control judge are exposed, prosecuted and convicted. Not that that resemble Judge Sullivan at all.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 21, 2020 09:10 AM (+y/Ru)

300 "Quick question...what the hell do they do with all of those pigs people are shooting? There are dozens of videos of folks with night vision scopes nailing dozens of pigs each night. They are mostly too big to eat, so what do they do? send out excavators to bury them?"

If you saw what unassed from some of those feral hogs after you shot them, you would want a flame thrower.

I went on one hunt where they "salvaged" select hogs up to a certain size. The rest were going to be used in some kind of ground meal. I didn't ask...

Posted by: Marcus T at May 21, 2020 09:10 AM (VpIIl)

301 296 How come we're not making soap out of the NY/NJ dead? Utility comes first.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 21, 2020 09:09 AM (0rEk2)

Soylent Green was available yesterday.

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 09:10 AM (JFO2v)

302 The truly tragic thing about Dershowitz's statement is that he's a known absolutist about the First Amendment's guarantee of freedom of expression. So why would the Fourth Amendment's guarantee of security in our persons be any less absolute? Silence.

Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at May 21, 2020 09:10 AM (RmBQf)

303 Beyond Vitamin D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVg8opQkQXc

Posted by: Shameless Shill at May 21, 2020 09:11 AM (AHq56)

304 rhennigan, you haven't failed. At some point they become responsible for their own choices.

Posted by: creeper at May 21, 2020 09:11 AM (XxJt1)

305 >Have a GIF of a moron puppeh who doesn't want to be slowed down eating



sure it's cute but when I do it at Thanksgiving dinner everyone is aghast

Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 21, 2020 09:11 AM (iTXRQ)

306 Again, from yesterday, the CDC's "revised" guidelines that state coronavirus is not easily spread from surfaces pretty well meant this entire lock down was unnecessary bullshit probably designed to increase government control.

"261 " the state has the power to literally take you to a doctor's office and plunge a needle into your arm," Dershowitz continued..."

This is why we have The Second Amendment, and why Democrats want to obliterate it. It is pure, unmitigated despotism and should be resoundingly answered with the barrel of a gun."

Agreed, and as a reminder, Dershowitz doesn't believe their is an individual right to bear arms although even the most left-wing, gun-grabbing legal academics conceded that point decades ago. Dershowitz has been selectively pro-civil liberties his entire life and is a fucking fraud.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 21, 2020 09:11 AM (puu6v)

307 299 Judgment At Nuremburg is also relevant because out of control judge are exposed, prosecuted and convicted. Not that that resemble Judge Sullivan at all.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 21, 2020 09:10 AM (+y/Ru)

=========

That was supposed to be the next movie sent to me from Netflix, but they skipped it because they apparently don't have a copy in the warehouse.

I got The Equalizer instead. I think I got shafted.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 09:11 AM (LvTSG)

308 For me, the best way to respond was just to come up with total asshole replies. In this case, I would ask him "so, does this mean if there was a public health concern that really focused on one particular group of people, you could make them all wear an identifying mark, like a yellow star? You could force them all into ghetto's? If the Government decided they were a "Health Risk", could the Government put them all into Concentration Camps, and dispose of the bodies in great Crematoriums? Is that your claim, Professor Dershowitz?
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 09:08 AM (V2Yro)

Sounds legit.

Okay fellers, lets git'er dun!

Posted by: Leftists Everywhere at May 21, 2020 09:11 AM (bod0u)

309 304 rhennigan, you haven't failed. At some point they become responsible for their own choices.
Posted by: creeper at May 21, 2020 09:11 AM (XxJt1)

No I failed. I own it!

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 09:12 AM (JFO2v)

310 The Left never sleeps.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 21, 2020 09:12 AM (DMUuz)

311 I do thanks for asking
Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 09:06 AM (JFO2v)


Nature versus nurture. Maybe I was lucky my kids weren't hardwired to disappoint me. Plus my wife wasn't always on the same page which infuriated me. Maybe if put to the test they would turn on me but I assume otherwise.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 21, 2020 09:12 AM (y7DUB)

312 Mysterious sewage backup causes health dept to descend on Bellmawr NJ gym and post closure notices on storefront.
https://www.fox29.com/

Posted by: BluesFish at May 21, 2020 09:12 AM (WQZ1O)

313 Tell them that they should expect to be locked down, frequently, for the remainder of their lives until the government decides that they're no longer useful.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 21, 2020 09:04 AM (Q1e7E)


Hey! "Nonessential" was bad enough.

"Negative Utility"? sounds... negative...

I got it,
"Surplus Resources"

They can feel good while going to 'happy fun camp'.
Posted by: Burnt Toast

Life unworthy.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 21, 2020 09:12 AM (+y/Ru)

314
I've been taking DERSOWITCHOQUINOLONE for weeks now...I feel so pretty and Witty and Free and the Scotus ignore me.

Posted by: saf at May 21, 2020 09:12 AM (5IHGB)

315 Remember, these aren't farm fed hogs. These are true foragers.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 09:07 AM (qBbz7)

I'm used to the ones in Northern CA, which ate well.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 21, 2020 09:12 AM (dLLD6)

316 Hawaiian Judges have been known to eat human flesh.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 21, 2020 09:12 AM (0rEk2)

317 Something has changed. My buddy from CT has dropped the "we are all going to die" schitck in the last few days. Now he is on the open up bandwagon.

Did he recently lose his job?

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 21, 2020 09:13 AM (Q1e7E)

318 I can't figure Dershowitz out. He's all over the place.

Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 21, 2020 09:13 AM (iTXRQ)

319 I believe Dershowitz evolved from a passionate liberal Democrat to a more-or-less pro-Trump indie because of the way the Democratic Party changed on Israel.

I saw yesterday where Biden said he planned to "restore" Zero's Israel policy, btw.

Posted by: mnw at May 21, 2020 09:13 AM (Cssks)

320

JABBA the Vaccine coming to a Clinic near you soon..............

Posted by: saf at May 21, 2020 09:13 AM (5IHGB)

321 Good morning!

Amidst the gloom and doom I am delighted to see stories about Republicans *finally* fighting back!

LOVE Pompeo's response to uber-creep Menendez.
LOVE that Sass is questioning funds to PP, and others are rejecting WHO's authority.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 21, 2020 09:14 AM (bDqIh)

322 312 Mysterious sewage backup causes health dept to descend on Bellmawr NJ gym and post closure notices on storefront.
https://www.fox29.com/
---------------------------
No big mystery. The city cut off drainage to the block to create a reason to break the owner and his patrons with a health citation. This Murphy guy is a full blown capo for his masters.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 21, 2020 09:15 AM (0rEk2)

323 Dersh is pro-forced vaccines and pro illegal immigration, why does this surprise anyone? I'm sure he'll vote blue and that he always has. It's accidental that he supported Trump in the ways he did and I'm glad Trump took advantage of it, but Dersh is a huge lib.

Posted by: CN at May 21, 2020 09:15 AM (ONvIw)

324 So no I read that CDC does not have a way to separate (or does not want to) active virus test positives from antibody test positive. They are all clumped together.

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 09:15 AM (JFO2v)

325 It's been two weeks since I poked my nose out into the world. If I can get the car started I'm going shopping.


No, I won't wear a mask. No, I won't follow the arrows on the floor. Yes, I will leave if you refuse me entry unmasked. And I will not be back.

Posted by: creeper at May 21, 2020 09:15 AM (XxJt1)

326 >>Did he recently lose his job?


Or did someone he knows commit suicide?

There were two murders in MA over the weekend - a man killed his wife, and another killed his father. They were "in it together" at home a little too long, I guess. Expect divorces to jump, too.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 21, 2020 09:16 AM (bDqIh)

327 NOW not NO

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 09:16 AM (JFO2v)

328 I saw yesterday where Biden said he planned to "restore" Zero's Israel policy, btw.
Posted by: mnw at May 21, 2020 09:13 AM (Cssks)


Including moving the embassy back to Tel Aviv?

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 21, 2020 09:16 AM (y7DUB)

329 318 I can't figure Dershowitz out. He's all over the place.

Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 21, 2020 09:13 AM (iTXRQ)


An example of why the Founders decided to go with a Supreme Court, not a Supreme Judge.

Posted by: Gref at May 21, 2020 09:17 AM (AMIL/)

330 I got The Equalizer instead. I think I got shafted.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 09:11 AM


You'll always have me.

Posted by: Prometheus at May 21, 2020 09:17 AM (DMUuz)

331 Hey there Lane, I know this is a little awkward, me being a cartoon and all, I was just wondering how you'd feel if I took out Beth?

Posted by: CUSACK UNIVERSE BARNEY at May 21, 2020 09:17 AM (FiO2f)

332

the state has the power to literally take you to a doctor's office and plunge a needle into your arm," Dershowitz continued

He's correct. There was a smallpox case about just that scenario around the 20s I think. Vaccine was forced. It was constitutional.

Posted by: imp at May 21, 2020 09:17 AM (uCLma)

333 https://tinyurl.com/yc3mfb6r

PDT has given regulators the option to suspend regulations that impede economic recovery . Wonder how this will play out?

Surely the Left will find a way to twist it to their own ends.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - Have you reported in to your assigned Contact Tracer today? at May 21, 2020 09:17 AM (pnfZk)

334 Republicans and Conservatives are too passive and would rather keep quiet than engage in a conversation with their liberal friends and family members.
How do we ever expect to change minds if we just retreat? Too many people in our party don't fight hard enough and it's frustrating.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 21, 2020 09:17 AM (wiXsO)

335 330 I got The Equalizer instead. I think I got shafted.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 09:11 AM

You'll always have me.
Posted by: Prometheus at May 21, 2020 09:17 AM (DMUuz)

==========

I've been consoling myself by watching every cut of Oliver Stone's Alexander.

I'm two cuts in, and I kinda regretting the decision.

There are, apparently, four cuts, but I'm not gonna do the fourth. It's just a slightly pared down version of the third.

9 hours of incoherence in the Ancient world is enough for me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 09:18 AM (LvTSG)

336 Remember, these aren't farm fed hogs. These are true foragers.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 09:07 AM (qBbz7)

I'm used to the ones in Northern CA, which ate well.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo



Wife & I left the in-laws last Saturday evening. Just as we started down the dirt road, about 30 hogs of various sizes from hogs to bacon seeds popped out and crossed the road. Looked just like you see in the videos.

By the time I could get the car stopped and my gun out, they were gone.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 09:18 AM (qBbz7)

337

That said, Dersh is dead wrong about a right to run a business, and wrong about locking up well people. It's complicated.

Posted by: imp at May 21, 2020 09:18 AM (uCLma)

338 Are there any peer reviewed, published scientific studies that PROVE social distancing works? Any at all? I am curious.

Posted by: shibumi, unemployed useless eater living in CV1984 at May 21, 2020 09:19 AM (ZCiJZ)

339 334 Republicans and Conservatives are too passive and would rather keep quiet than engage in a conversation with their liberal friends and family members.
How do we ever expect to change minds if we just retreat? Too many people in our party don't fight hard enough and it's frustrating.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 21, 2020 09:17 AM (wiXsO)

Never get into a pissing match with a skunk, has been my philosophy. I happily disinvited leftists from holiday gatherings at my house, and I will continue to do so. I will not feed or house anyone who calls me a racist, etc.




Posted by: CN at May 21, 2020 09:19 AM (ONvIw)

340 Something has changed. My buddy from CT has dropped the "we are all going to die" schitck in the last few days. Now he is on the open up bandwagon.
-

Did he recently lose his job?

-

Send him a pleasant meme. Maybe a. gif. l understand Facebook and Twitter users love them and respond to them as conversation.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fewer than 1,000 healthcare workers WORLDWIDE have died from COVID-19 at May 21, 2020 09:19 AM (aden2)

341 "[But] If you refuse to be vaccinated [for a contagious disease], the
state has the power to literally take you to a doctor's office and
plunge a needle into your arm,"


The Needle Lies

Posted by: deplorable unperson - Have you reported in to your assigned Contact Tracer today? at May 21, 2020 09:19 AM (pnfZk)

342 334 Republicans and Conservatives are too passive and would rather keep quiet than engage in a conversation with their liberal friends and family members.
How do we ever expect to change minds if we just retreat? Too many people in our party don't fight hard enough and it's frustrating.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 21, 2020 09:17 AM (wiXsO)

==========

The most awkward political conversation I've ever had was with several other Republicans, none of whom could do anything other than spout talking points. They didn't really understand what they were saying.

I bit my tongue a lot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 09:19 AM (LvTSG)

343 "332

the state has the power to literally take you to a doctor's office and plunge a needle into your arm," Dershowitz continued

He's correct. There was a smallpox case about just that scenario around the 20s I think. Vaccine was forced. It was constitutional."

He's right on that point, but he went on to conflate that case with the arbitrary deprivation of property and liberty without due process, which he said is also totes OK.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 21, 2020 09:20 AM (puu6v)

344 Republicans and Conservatives are too passive and would rather keep quiet than engage in a conversation with their liberal friends and family members.
How do we ever expect to change minds if we just retreat? Too many people in our party don't fight hard enough and it's frustrating.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 21, 2020 09:17 AM


Have you tried sipping cocoa and talking about health insurance over the Holidays?

Posted by: Pajama Boy at May 21, 2020 09:20 AM (DMUuz)

345 336 Remember, these aren't farm fed hogs. These are true foragers.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 09:07 AM (qBbz7)

I'm used to the ones in Northern CA, which ate well.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo



Wife & I left the in-laws last Saturday evening. Just as we started down the dirt road, about 30 hogs of various sizes from hogs to bacon seeds popped out and crossed the road. Looked just like you see in the videos.

By the time I could get the car stopped and my gun out, they were gone.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 09:18 AM (qBbz7)

Be sure and cook 'em Really, Really well.

Posted by: tubal at May 21, 2020 09:20 AM (bCLt0)

346 I'm off. Will report back from the front.

*leaves basket full of hugs for rhennigan*

creep out

Posted by: creeper at May 21, 2020 09:21 AM (XxJt1)

347 Lori Loughlin and her husband have decided to plead guilty. Probably they figure that this is a good strategy since criminals are being released from prison due to the pandemic

Posted by: redridinghood at May 21, 2020 09:21 AM (wiXsO)

348 I passed an idiot driving on the highway, windows up, wearing a mask.

--

Those are the funniest of all. You expecting the Ten Commandments black death fog to come wafting in through your vents?
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 21, 2020 08:58 AM (O+I8R)

But they are so freaking uncomfortable! You would think that alone would make people wear them as little as possible.

Wearing a mask alone in your car? I guess people are Scared of infecting themselves?

I love the people who are outraged that evildoers are walking outside and at the beach willy nilly with no masks. Because it's safer in a grocery store, a closed system where the same air is recirculating than outside where virus particles would be dispersed into the *atmosphere*.

Posted by: chique d' Epstein didn't off hisself at May 21, 2020 09:21 AM (Ygntm)

349 Biden campaign official questions whether Trump's 'playing with a full deck'

https://fxn.ws/3bSyM7w



HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

*takes breath*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 21, 2020 09:21 AM (3e+65)

350

I went to the grocery store. All of the roped off form a line here entrances and blocked off exits (the fire code violations) were gone. What will the Karens do when the arrows are removed from the aisles?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 21, 2020 09:21 AM (TJfg+)

351
*leaves basket full of hugs for rhennigan*

creep out
Posted by: creeper at May 21, 2020 09:21 AM (XxJt1)

thanks

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 21, 2020 09:22 AM (JFO2v)

352 347 Lori Loughlin and her husband have decided to plead guilty. Probably they figure that this is a good strategy since criminals are being released from prison due to the pandemic
Posted by: redridinghood at May 21, 2020 09:21 AM (wiXsO)

Criminals are being released to make room for those who challenge the totalitarian governors.

Posted by: CN at May 21, 2020 09:22 AM (ONvIw)

353 338 Are there any peer reviewed, published scientific studies that PROVE social distancing works? Any at all? I am curious.
Posted by: shibumi, unemployed useless eater living in CV1984 at May 21, 2020 09:19 AM (ZCiJZ)

That would be impossible. They're probably just guessing that droplets won't carry that far.

Posted by: Caliban at May 21, 2020 09:22 AM (QE8X6)

354 so where do all these wild pigs come from

Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 21, 2020 09:22 AM (iTXRQ)

355

CHECKS & BALANCES.............

Great now I can BUY and MEASURE out my Coke.

Posted by: saf at May 21, 2020 09:23 AM (5IHGB)

356 Heh, does she even hear what she's saying?

Elizabeth Bartholet, who caused a stir in April by calling for a near-total ban on homeschooling, doubled down in a recent interview, complaining that "many homeschooling parents are extreme ideologues, committed to raising their children" in evangelical Christian "belief systems."

This apparently is very dangerous, according to Bartholet, "because society may not have the chance to teach them values important to the larger community, such as tolerance of other people's views and values."


What part of "tolerance" is demonizing Evangelicals who want to raise their own kids?

Posted by: Lizzy at May 21, 2020 09:23 AM (bDqIh)

357 How will we know this round of Wuhan Bug panic is over? When the Dem-Media Complex begins giving us speeches in Congress and news reports, every day, about the terrible suffering COVID-19 brought to the illegal alien and transgender communities.

I figure the Complex is not screaming about this now because internal polling shows that libtards are too worried about themselves to worry about the Holy Victim Groups.

Posted by: Gref at May 21, 2020 09:23 AM (AMIL/)

358
so where do all these wild pigs come from

Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 21, 2020 09:22 AM


when a mommy pig & a daddy pig love each other very much...

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 21, 2020 09:24 AM (DUIap)

359 CBD, if you are on Facebook at all, or can get on it, check out a page called Rougarou Hog Control.

Bunch of Louisiana boys using night vision and thermals with silencers to kill hogs as a business.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 09:24 AM (qBbz7)

360 "So now that the CDC has announced that you can't get
the Lung AIDS from casually touching surfaces, what has changed in our
panic response?
Posted by: Moron Robbie"

Cats and dogs can carry the virus. They must wear masks too.

Posted by: Ripley at May 21, 2020 09:24 AM (MxEKc)

361 I never saw Montgomery Cliff improve any movie he was in. Never understood why he became a star. He was appalling in "From Here to Eternity." A champion boxer? Really?

Exactly how many pounds of disbelief am I required to suspend?
Posted by: mnw

They say that Cliff was so good at playing a simp in Judgment At Nuremburg is that he had so tried his brain with drugs and alcohol that he was, in fact, a simp.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 21, 2020 09:24 AM (+y/Ru)

362
That would be impossible. They're probably just guessing that droplets won't carry that far.


Why have we ruined the economy of the world on something that is impossible to test? Is "guessing" the new hot in "science?"

Posted by: shibumi, unemployed useless eater living in CV1984 at May 21, 2020 09:25 AM (ZCiJZ)

363 I passed an idiot driving on the highway, windows up, wearing a mask.

I got beeped at yesterday, driving with the top down and no mask.

Posted by: t-bird at May 21, 2020 09:25 AM (CTJwJ)

364 Republicans and Conservatives are too passive and would rather keep
quiet than engage in a conversation with their liberal friends and
family members.



Assumes the Left are a rational opposition.

They are not.



They are tiny-minded, self-absorbed, narcissistic little tyrants who simply can't sleep at night if they are not forcing others to bend to their will and play along with their latest nightmare false reality.


They are tantrum-throwing toddlers. Talking to them only results in giving them the attention that their daddy-issues are craving.


The result of engaging them is that you get pissed off and they believe that they have talked tough and snarky to a "Nazi" .

Posted by: deplorable unperson - Have you reported in to your assigned Contact Tracer today? at May 21, 2020 09:25 AM (pnfZk)

365 The most awkward political conversation I've ever had was with several other Republicans, none of whom could do anything other than spout talking points. They didn't really understand what they were saying.

I bit my tongue a lot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 09:19 AM (LvTSG)

Yeah, it's not just people on the left who haven't thought through their political philosophy.

Unfortunately, most humans don't think about abstract things very much. which is why they thoughtlessly accept whatever pap is fed to them in their environment.

This is also why I don't listen to rightwing pundits who just regurgitate talking points. I find it very off putting.

Posted by: chique d' Epstein didn't off hisself at May 21, 2020 09:26 AM (Ygntm)

366 Nurse are my testicles black > NO...Ebony and Ivory.


Who'se yer Mamma?

Posted by: saf at May 21, 2020 09:26 AM (5IHGB)

367 so where do all these wild pigs come from

Posted by: DB- just DB


This is 8 yrs old. Estimated numbers are between 3 & 6 million hogs.

1.80 to 3.4 million hogs -
Average 2.6 million

Reproductive maturity age
Range 5-14 months,
Average 8 months

Number of litters per year
Range - 0.84 - 2.0,
Average 1.5

Piglets per litter -
Range 3.3 - 8.0 - Average 5.64

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 09:26 AM (qBbz7)

368 so where do all these wild pigs come from

-
They're Chinese Murder Pigs created in a lab in Sweetnsour.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 21, 2020 09:26 AM (+y/Ru)

369 Cats and dogs can carry the virus. They must wear masks too.


How long before we hear that heterosexual sex can spread the CCP flu, but not gay sex? Or that white heterosexual Christian men are carriers, but not brown gay Muslim men?

Posted by: shibumi, unemployed useless eater living in CV1984 at May 21, 2020 09:27 AM (ZCiJZ)

370 Lori Loughlin and her husband have decided to plead guilty. Probably they figure that this is a good strategy since criminals are being released from prison due to the pandemic
Posted by: redridinghood at May 21, 2020 09:21 AM (wiXsO)


Why haven't any of the kollidges been punished for taking the bribes? I was watching an episode of Bull recently, which I assume is based on how these scam cases are going, and some whore administrator as a witness for the Patterico prosecutor testified that she'd pocketed a sweet $10k and I was thinking WTF.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 21, 2020 09:27 AM (y7DUB)

371 What part of "tolerance" is demonizing Evangelicals who want to raise their own kids?
Posted by: Lizzy


Depending on where you are, most homeschooling are just as likely to be lefty-liberal kooky/quirky people. They hate these busy bodies as much as religious folks.

Posted by: imp at May 21, 2020 09:27 AM (uCLma)

372 The most awkward political conversation I've ever had was with several other Republicans, none of whom could do anything other than spout talking points. They didn't really understand what they were saying.

-

This.

It's always useful to remember we're the Green Party of the Republican side. There are 7-10% of us 10th Amendment types, tops, and probably 80% of us are inarticulate.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fewer than 1,000 healthcare workers WORLDWIDE have died from COVID-19 at May 21, 2020 09:27 AM (aden2)

373
Jeez, what's with all the Monty Clift hate. He was a talented actor. You could attribute some misfires as either being miscast, bad material, or sadly, his state of mind near the end of his life.

But he was good in quite a few very good pictures.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 21, 2020 09:28 AM (s2VJv)

374 I've seen the needle and the damage done
A little GPS for everyone

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 21, 2020 09:28 AM (+7yf7)

375 374 I've seen the needle and the damage done
A little GPS for everyone
Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 21, 2020 09:28 AM (+7yf7)


Thread winner.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 21, 2020 09:28 AM (s2VJv)

376
I love listening to these clips of Jabba the Pritzker, "the science now says" the science aka Madigan. That fat fuck shut down the state and kill numerous businesses trying to get a Federal bailout of the state pensions and other obligations and now the dipshit is getting heat from the powers that be in the state and he's backing down. All he's accomplished is killed businesses and further reduced his tax base. Now watch the dickhead say he has to raise taxes to make up for the short fall from the shut down

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 21, 2020 09:28 AM (TJfg+)

377 *leaves basket full of hugs for rhennigan*

creep out
Posted by: creeper at May 21, 2020 09:21 AM (XxJt1)

thanks
Posted by: rhennigantx



Eeeeeewwwww. When hugs go bad left out in the Texas sun.....

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 09:28 AM (qBbz7)

378 How long before we hear that heterosexual sex can spread the CCP flu, but not gay sex?

Gay sex is the vaccine, "experts say".

Posted by: t-bird at May 21, 2020 09:29 AM (CTJwJ)

379 "369 Cats and dogs can carry the virus. They must wear masks too.


How long before we hear that heterosexual sex can spread the CCP flu, but not gay sex? Or that white heterosexual Christian men are carriers, but not brown gay Muslim men?"

As soon as someone put the question to Fauci, who nearly 40 years ago blatantly lied and said heterosexual activity was just as likely to spread AIDS as gay sex. He has a track record there.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 21, 2020 09:29 AM (puu6v)

380 "Dershowitz has been selectively pro-civil liberties his entire life and is a fucking fraud."

yeah, any of these "scholars" that are still Dem don't deserve much credit for coming late to the party on "Gee, Trump was framed, we need some disciplinary action, mistakes were made". Turley and others sweet talk us a little on seeing the light, but with Obama going full commie, they supported most of the "fundamental transformation" of America.


That includes a lot of GOPe as well. DC is so corrupt, few were brave enough to speak up, and if they did they were shuffled off to Buffalo, or worse. Nice to see a few state courts ruling against Tyranny by Governor XO, but how did Fauci/Birx/Gates get the president's ear, using the fake "millions will die" anti-science study?


There were some economic issues at risk already imo, and a real need to expose China as the enemy they are ... but I can't quite believe that was the secret motivation and it was all part of The Plan. But maybe it works out that way ... thought the $5-10 Trillion in stimulus is a high price, not to mention the private business damage.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 21, 2020 09:29 AM (Cus5s)

381 passed an idiot driving on the highway, windows up, wearing a mask.

-

They're crashing, too. Search if you haven't read it. Turns out restricting your breathing for too long is a bad idea.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fewer than 1,000 healthcare workers WORLDWIDE have died from COVID-19 at May 21, 2020 09:29 AM (aden2)

382 so where do all these wild pigs come from
Posted by: DB- just DB

--

Well, when one wild pig loves another wild pig very much...

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 21, 2020 09:29 AM (Hcsoi)

383 373
Jeez, what's with all the Monty Clift hate. He was a talented actor. You could attribute some misfires as either being miscast, bad material, or sadly, his state of mind near the end of his life.

But he was good in quite a few very good pictures.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 21, 2020 09:28 AM (s2VJv)

=========

I was wondering where I'd seen him recently.

I Confess, a Hitchcock movie that felt off. A straight drama that made the central character (played by Clift) oddly passive.

Looked great, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 09:29 AM (LvTSG)

384 360 "So now that the CDC has announced that you can't get the Lung AIDS from casually touching surfaces, what has changed in our panic response?
Posted by: Moron Robbie"

Cats and dogs can carry the virus. They must wear masks too.

Posted by: Ripley at May 21, 2020 09:24 AM (MxEKc)


It's much worse than this. In my RSS feed this morning is an NYT item about someone's strawberry seedlings getting the virus. I decided to not open the article, so it may not be as insane as the headline implies.

Posted by: Gref at May 21, 2020 09:30 AM (AMIL/)

385 383 I was wondering where I'd seen him recently.

I Confess, a Hitchcock movie that felt off. A straight drama that made the central character (played by Clift) oddly passive.

Looked great, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 09:29 AM (LvTSG)


His first film, "The Search" is a real tearjerker. And he's quite good.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 21, 2020 09:30 AM (s2VJv)

386 Things I'm so sick of that I may go Postal:

1) Ads for high fashion face masks.

2) Supermarket recording (on never-ending loop) about how "We're all in this together!"

F that completely.

Posted by: mnw at May 21, 2020 09:30 AM (Cssks)

387 Question for the horde auto-glass experts. My wife's windshield needs replacement. Factory glass installed by the dealer is literally double the price of Safelite. What gives? Is Safelite glass lesser quality, or the same? Will Safelight connect properly to the windshield defroster?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 21, 2020 09:30 AM (NVYyb)

388
Nood.

Neil Young album cover?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 21, 2020 09:31 AM (s2VJv)

389 Jeez, what's with all the Monty Clift hate. He was a
talented actor. You could attribute some misfires as either being
miscast, bad material, or sadly, his state of mind near the end of his
life.



But he was good in quite a few very good pictures.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 21, 2020 09:28 AM (s2VJv)


Agree. He made some good movies. His last one about a spy in East Berlin was something to see how much he had physically deteriorated.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 21, 2020 09:31 AM (TJfg+)

390

Never let a good COVID go to waste.

Posted by: saf at May 21, 2020 09:32 AM (5IHGB)

391 so down in Texas or wherever, there's just pigs everywhere?

that is not great
I mean, I knew there were feral pigs, but I had no idea the numbers were so high

Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 21, 2020 09:33 AM (iTXRQ)

392 You never see a president carrying in movies.

I want to see that now.

"Mr. President, the White House has been breached."
-Secret Service

"Fuck 'em."
-POTUS, pulling back the hammer
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 08:54 AM (LvTSG)

I know a family law judge personally here where I live; he made a special point of having himself designated a Peace Officer so he could keep his glock at his side, even when he's presiding over a case. His point is that there's been too many instances when something crazy happens in court, and he didn't want to be dependent on the bailiff only. Trivia I didn't know but for him - in Texas, Judges aren't automatically designated as Peace Officers, but they can request that designation from the State, and they'll get it. And all Peace Officers can legally carry at all times.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 09:33 AM (V2Yro)

393 Madison

Mace is touting a new poll showing her beating Cunningham.

Posted by: mnw at May 21, 2020 09:34 AM (Cssks)

394 Whenever anyone, usually a leftist, mentions nebulous "science", a red flag goes up and I assume the person lacks even basic scientific knowledge but just uses "science" as a bludgeon against the wrong thinkers.

Kind of like when Nancy Pelosi talks about "the children", which she actually does unironically.

Posted by: chique d' Epstein didn't off hisself at May 21, 2020 09:34 AM (Ygntm)

395 PDT does not cc he has publicly stated that the SS will not allow him to. He does not have a private detail.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 21, 2020 09:35 AM (kyDpo)

396 Kind of like when Nancy Pelosi talks about "the children", which she actually does unironically.
Posted by: chique d' Epstein didn't off hisself at May 21, 2020 09:34 AM (Ygntm)

Or prayer.

Posted by: Deep State 910 at May 21, 2020 09:36 AM (qLs5f)

397 It's always useful to remember we're the Green Party of the Republican side. There are 7-10% of us 10th Amendment types, tops, and probably 80% of us are inarticulate.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fewer than 1,000 healthcare workers WORLDWIDE have died from COVID-19 at May 21, 2020 09:27 AM (aden2)


This is why I listen to Levin because he knows the Constitution forward and backwards (although I think he fucked up on the interstate commerce clause belonging to the President instead of Congress). This might be heresy to some but Rush can be dumb as fuck about some facts. I was once screaming at the radio like a fucking lunatic because he misstated so many things about the foundation of the FISA court, which I considered inexcusable with his resources.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 21, 2020 09:36 AM (y7DUB)

398 Kind of like when Nancy Pelosi talks about "the children", which she actually does unironically.
Posted by: chique d' Epstein didn't off hisself at May 21, 2020 09:34 AM (Ygntm)

Or prayer.
Posted by: Deep State 910 at May 21, 2020 09:36 AM (qLs5f)

She would be a prime target for lightning strikes in an ideal world.

Posted by: chique d' Epstein didn't off hisself at May 21, 2020 09:38 AM (Ygntm)

399 354 so where do all these wild pigs come from
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Farms.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 21, 2020 09:38 AM (0rEk2)

400 PDT does not cc he has publicly stated that the SS will not allow him to. He does not have a private detail.
Posted by: Jen the original at May 21, 2020 09:35 AM (kyDpo)


Thank you. You stated that so bluntly I'll assume it's correct.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 21, 2020 09:39 AM (y7DUB)

401 The madness that has been going on since March is proof that we are indeed seeing the horrible effects of a deadly contagion. But that contagion isn't COVID-19, it is TDS. For 3 full years, those infected with TDS have had their brains hollowed out and their critical faculties replaced with the most malicious nonsense (MSM-19?), rendering them fully capable of the insane brand of mass hysteria we witness daily as "the new normal". TDS is in full bloom, and perhaps we should heretofore not confuse it with "the corona pandemic".

Posted by: MarjBaldwin at May 21, 2020 09:40 AM (H5Sbo)

402 so that fx 'documentary' is a load of dogs bollocks editing norma mccorveys worlds and fromted by a never trumper whos now for moloch and gun control

Posted by: gaius martius at May 21, 2020 09:40 AM (hMlTh)

403 >>> 338 Are there any peer reviewed, published scientific studies that PROVE social distancing works? Any at all? I am curious.
Posted by: shibumi, unemployed useless eater living in CV1984 at May 21, 2020 09:19 AM (ZCiJZ)

I thought there had been a link here -- maybe in an earlier MorningReport? -- that the "study" about "social distancing" was a project by some 14 year old daughter of a bureaucrat who pushed it up through the CDC during the Bush admin. They didn't think they could get away with that shit back then.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 21, 2020 09:40 AM (0ReGO)

404 292 Tell them that they should expect to be locked down, frequently, for the remainder of their lives until the government decides that they're no longer useful.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 21, 2020 09:04 AM (Q1e7E)


Hey! "Nonessential" was bad enough.

"Negative Utility"? sounds... negative...

I got it,
"Surplus Resources"

They can feel good while going to 'happy fun camp'.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 21, 2020 09:07 AM (1g7ch)

It's better in the original German.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 21, 2020 09:41 AM (NWiLs)

405 Unnutze esser, I think it is.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 21, 2020 09:42 AM (NWiLs)

406 Zero surprise with Dershowitz.
Other than he finally allowed his true nature to be exposed. His "champion of civil-rights" was always just a money making schtick. It was pure, 100% bullsh*t.
IMHO, judging by the "once in a lifetime", ferocity that he represented the guilty parties in Epstein child sex trafficking, he was/is COMPLETELY involved in the Epstein "activities" up to his eyeballs. He sure didnt represent Mike Tyson with that kind of "fervor". IMHO, Dershowitz is owned lock stock and barrel by deep state bc of incriminating evidence implicating him in Epstein Child sex trafficking. Simply put, he's their ho now.

Posted by: rusty shacklefjord at May 21, 2020 09:49 AM (Hw4bz)

407 What if that barber reopened as a private club that gives haircuts?

Posted by: vivi at May 21, 2020 09:53 AM (11H2y)

408 Reason why Maine lawmakers are appealing to AG Barr is because the democrats control *everything* up here. We can't do it ourselves unless its at the end of a rifle and I'd prefer to not go that route unless absolutely no other path is available.

Posted by: Defenestratus at May 21, 2020 09:54 AM (9V81o)

409 How long before we hear that heterosexual sex can spread the CCP flu, but not gay sex? Or that white heterosexual Christian men are carriers, but not brown gay Muslim men?
Posted by: shibumi, unemployed useless eater living in CV1984 at May 21, 2020 09:27 AM (ZCiJZ)

We have breaking news coming in...

Posted by: NBC Nightly News at May 21, 2020 09:57 AM (bod0u)

410 Honestly, people better wake the hell up.

I just had it out with a few so-called Independents who said they will support some Democrats. Mostly because they voted against Pelosi's Bill, which shows they are more "traditional", and not "extreme".

I called bullshit.

I explained- this is how it works. Pelosi whips the vote on the bill to ensure it will pass. She then gives those in close districts a "pass". They don't have to vote for it because, wait for it, she doesn't need their vote, and she knows it. Jackasses.

Pelosi may be a mouth breathing nut, but she knows the legislative process. This was planned because Pelosi knows she need to keep the House in November. This is part of the plan.

You dumbasses.

Look at the other votes from the Democrats you are supporting who are calling themselves "moderate". I guarantee they are not and support the entire Democrat agenda.

Except when it isn't convenient and they need to convince idiots they are something they are not.

A vote for a Democrat, any Democrat, is a vote for their total destruction of your family and our country, window licker.

/rant

Posted by: Marcus T at May 21, 2020 10:00 AM (VpIIl)

411 ^^ wrong


Beggars can't be Seagulls, Johnathan.

Posted by: saf at May 21, 2020 10:01 AM (5IHGB)

412 The Karens of Nextdoor have moved their on scolding goalposts tor masks to be 100% no CCP CV19 cases. Not 100% no CCP CV19 deaths.
When I calmly reminded their dumbass's that CCP CV19 had a 99.983% survival rate and that is as close to 100%. I was called anti-science, a jerk, and an ass.
These mini-Hitlers are the people that the donks are going to be using to bring down the nation. I am thoroughly pissed that I do not have more ammo because there are orders of magnitude of people that will probably need to be dealt with.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 21, 2020 10:19 AM (pw+jk)

413 No big fan, but Montgomery Clift used his looks and charm to great effect in The Heiress.

Posted by: Texican ette at May 21, 2020 10:19 AM (gou4q)

414 "Dershowitz Explains Why He Is Still A Democrat"

It might be an interesting intellectual exercise if there weren't very powerful and evil people plotting to do just that.

You also have the Right to Squint--when I take that needle and jab you in the eyeball and go start the Next Revolutionary War.

Or as another Constitutional scholar put it, "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it."--A. Lincoln

Vaccinate this.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 21, 2020 10:31 AM (Ndje9)

415 So, they are going to try and kill me or alter my brain or do any number of other things with a rushed "vaccine" where they cannot and will not tell me what it contains and they have no liability for the harm it causes?

I think not and I will respond to such attempts with all force. I am not getting on the box car and I am not getting in the ambulance.

Killing me to save my life? Give it a try. We'll see how that works out.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at May 21, 2020 10:34 AM (+Kpte)

416 The Pathetic POS Dershowits is a child rapist. He rode with Bill Clinton on the Lolita Express. Yea we should give him a break when he agrees with us on a policy issue. JFC... That you ever had any trust in him shows how dumb you are.

Posted by: fisht at May 21, 2020 10:44 AM (g5ddn)

417 "...and yes, repatriating our industrial base will crush them."

It would be nice if this country had governments that are not absolutely hostile to business. If we had governments that are friendlier to business, well, this wouldn't be a problem.

Make it easier to do business in this country.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 21, 2020 11:16 AM (ejsiI)

418 We need everyone who gets ticket go to court and request a jury trial. And we need everyone to read up on Jury Nullification, which doesn't get used enough. I so wish some juries would have the guts to do this.

Jury nullification occurs when a jury returns a verdict of "Not Guilty" despite its belief that the defendant is guilty of the violation charged. The jury in effect nullifies a law that it believes is either immoral or wrongly applied to the defendant whose fate they are charged with deciding.

Posted by: js4strings at May 21, 2020 12:15 PM (ds+1V)

419 It has been too many years since I read it, but Dershowitz wrote a book called "Rights From Wrongs", in which he rejected both Natural Law and Positive Law in favor of what, IIRC, he called "Experiential Law".

His hypothesis is that our concept of Rights and laws develops from experience with offenses against our sensibilities, and should not be dependent on any sort of transcendent/divine sanction (Natural Law), or merely on counting hands (Positive Law).

Although that clip has him referring to "democracy", which is effectively Positive Law, the concept that our "experience" with pandemics could lead us to conclude that we "must" allow government by majority rule to determine and enforce vaccination policy, as well as any quarantine policy. If the Constitution suggests otherwise it is simply irrelevant, as "experience" will have "taught us" that more direct measures are required, and that enough people support them.

I disagree completely, but that is how he can reconcile being a Constitutional scholar with that position - he simply does not believe in the Natural Law element of the Constitution.

Posted by: Sam at May 21, 2020 01:13 PM (ohyxL)

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