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President Donald Trump suggested that Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) should be removed from the United States, referencing allegations that she “supposedly” entered the country by marrying her brother. “Somalia, where you have a Congressman goes around telling everybody about our Constitution, yet she supposedly came into our country by marrying her brother,” Trump said while speaking to reporters on Air Force One. “Well, if that’s true, she shouldn’t be a Congressman, and we should throw her the hell out of our country.”
The video has English subtitles during Omar’s statements that she is in Congress to represent Somali Americans’ interests and that the “US will do what we want and nothing else.”
That she has not been removed from office or at the barest of minimums severely reprimanded or disciplined is a disgrace. Meh, she is a total disgrace and considering to whom and what she has pledged her allegiance, represents a grave threat to our national security and societal coherence, that s what is left of it after decades of dissolution.
So, the President's declaration is all well and good. But what are the odds that he or the appropriate agencies will actually follow through in stripping this filthy bitch of her citizenship and sending her back to the dark age shit hole from whence she came? And even if the process started, the reaction from Leftist/Democrat circles will touch off a furor perhaps not seen since the 2020 summer of love literal firestorms. Sadly and to our great misfortune and shame we are stuck with her and her kind unless there is a massive paradigm shift in both the public's tolerance for the kind of Islamo-Leftist thuggery that resulted in the shootings in DC and in the justice system that is clearly tilted against the American people and geared towards protecting the criminal elements that keep leftists in power and the citizenry cowed into submission.
And speaking of the slaughter o National Guardsmen in DC, how is it that this ghoul who openly boasted of being an eager and willing collaborator in Nazi war crimes has not been long ago sent packing perhaps to face a prison cell in Hungary. I seem to recall that he supposedly has a death sentence hanging over his head in some country for doing what he does best; destroy their currency.
He has used the billions he has made, the seed money of which was what he earned from the Nazis by helping them in their rounding up and shipping off to Auschwitz of Hungary's Jews in 1944. Among them a number of my mother's relatives. And here at home, we have this totally unsurprising report:
Iranian-Run, Soros-Funded Billboards Urge Soldiers to Disobey Orders This is not only sedition; it’s a national security threat.
During a call between Trump and Maduro, the socialist president demanded that he be allowed to maintain control of Venezuela’s military if he paved the way for free elections there, said the Miami Herald, citing sources. Maduro also reportedly sought global amnesty for all of his alleged crimes. Trump’s refusal on both counts was said to be swift as he followed up with an offer that Maduro may not be able to refuse: Leave now or else.
In the wake of Hong Kong's terrible, seven-tower Tai Po fire, which killed at least 128, the Hong Kong people impressed many with their spontaneous charity towards their fellow citizens, setting up donation centers, finding housing for the burned-out homeless, including domestic servants, sheltering the pets, feeding firemen, and more.
Then their ChiCom rulers showed up, and it all got ugly.
I'm not talking about the ordinary people of China, of course, many of whom rushed to donate supplies, too -- or even local officials of nearby Shenzhen, which borders Hong Kong. They rapidly lined up fire trucks to help assist the effort -- and apparently were turned down by foolish local officials, although some may have belatedly gotten across the border.
Thus, President Trump’s decision to call Prime Minister Takaichi within a few hours of calling President Xi was a clear and unambiguous signal that he will no longer allow U.S. national security to be circumscribed by The Relationship. Trump shattered the narrative so piously put forth by the CCP and its enablers that the China-US relationship is so special and important that it could never be challenged or changed. To those paying attention, President Trump had hinted at his real perspective on The Relationship earlier this year when he stated, “The worst thing Nixon did wasn’t Watergate; it was allowing China to take advantage of this country. He and Kissinger are the ones who opened up China. And it was a terrible mistake. It didn’t have to be this way.”
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ABOVE THE FOLD, BREAKING, NOTEWORTHY LINKS
“Somalia, where you have a Congressman goes around telling everybody about our Constitution, yet she supposedly came into our country by marrying her brother,” Trump said while speaking to reporters on Air Force One. “Well, if that’s true, she shouldn’t be a Congressman, and we should throw her the hell out of our country.” Trump Suggests Rep. Ilhan "Bro-Fo" Omar Be Thrown ‘Out Of’ U.S. Over Claims She Married Her Brother
National Guardsmen Gunned Down in DC by Biden-imported Afghan Islamic Savage
We will never allow this to continue to happen in our country, allow individuals who came to our country that were unvetted by Joe Biden allowed to run free and loose, we are going to bring them to justice and make sure that they’re returned out of this country. If they aren’t here for the purposes of being an American.” Noem: Biden Afghan ‘Abandonment’ Led to National Guard Shooting
“The magnitude of the national security crisis Joe Biden unleashed… cannot be overstated,” said White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt. “ Afghan Migrant Charged After TikTok Bomb Plot in TexasCIVIL WAR 2.0, LEFTIST PERSECUTIONS, DEMOCRAT PUTSCH, AMERICAN DISSOLUTION
And now it’s time for the other half of the country to recognize what they’ve been enduring: an abusive relationship with a political class that doesn’t love them, doesn’t hear them, and doesn’t respect them. They Broke America and Blame Trump: A Country Waking Up From an Abusive Relationship "DEMOCRAT/LEFTIST BORDER BLOODBATH," AMNESTY, IMMIGRATION, BORDER SECURITY, NEWSOM/DEMOCRAT VIOLENT INSURRECTION RIOTS
In 1787, Judge Robert Yates predicted what we see happening today: judges interfering in the political process to destroy the Trump administration. Federal Judges Are Becoming A Form Of TyrannyTHE ECONOMY, STUPID
Overall retail sales excluding automotive rose 4.1 percent from last year, according to Mastercard SpendingPulse, surpassing the prior year’s 3.4 percent growth and landing near the high end of forecasts. The data, which tracks both in-person and online transactions but isn’t adjusted for inflation, suggests the holiday shopping season is off to a robust start. Black Friday Spending Surges Past Forecasts, Capping Strong Holiday Kickoff
Tucker Carlson’s recent pivot reads less like commentary and more like a paid infomercial for Islamist narratives, wrapped in contradictions he once warned Americans to reject. Tucker Carlson: Subtle Islamic Apologist
Will artificial intelligence bring about the end of the world? Peter Thiel, AI, and the AntichristRED-GREENS, CLIMATE CHANGE HOAX, DEMOCRAT-LEFT WAR ON FOSSIL FUELS,
A new NBC News poll finds that a full 63% of voters believe a four-year college degree now isn’t worth it, since many students graduate with “a large amount of debt” but no “specific job skills.” That’s up markedly from 2013, when a majority took the opposite view, as 53% called a degree “worth the cost because people have a better chance to get a good job and earn more money over their lifetime.” Americans are rightly waking up — much of higher education is now a scam
Crock-o-shett made the false suggestion on the House floor Nov. 18, but the contributions in question were from a different Jeffrey Epstein. On MS NOW’s (formerly MSNBC) “The Weekend,” host Jacqueline Alemany offered Crockett a chance to correct herself, but the congresswoman declined to retract her accusation. Rep. Jasmine Crockett Still Won’t Retract Accusation Lee Zeldin Took Money From Jeffrey Epstein
. . . with a matter-of-factness that is positively breathtaking under the circumstances, that Plaskett “had ‘private nude images’ of her stolen by her own ex-staffers, who used them to attempt to sabotage her re-election campaign. The husband of one of the culprits was, like Epstein, later found dead.” With all that going on, what’s a little texting with Jeffrey Epstein? The Story of the Dem Who Texted with Epstein During Hearing Just Got a Lot More SordidDEMOCRAT/LEFTIST AND RINO SCANDALS, MESHUGAS, CHUTZPOCRISY
Trump’s 20-Point Gaza Plan – and willful blindness about Islamic Jihad. (Meh, Islam period - jjs) “We Are Confused. Did You Win or Lose?” THE UKRAINIAN "FRONT"
Victor Davis Hanson: Putin gambled on Western hesitation, and now a war born of miscalculation grinds on because neither Moscow nor NATO is willing—or able—to force a decisive end. The War in Ukraine: Lots of Questions and a Few AnswersFOREIGN AFFAIRS, INTERNATIONAL
During a call between Trump and Maduro, the socialist president demanded that he be allowed to maintain control of Venezuela’s military if he paved the way for free elections there, said the Miami Herald, citing sources. Maduro also reportedly sought global amnesty for all of his alleged crimes. Trump’s refusal on both counts was said to be swift as he followed up with an offer that Maduro may not be able to refuse: Leave now or else. Now or never Trump told Maduro he and his family would be allowed safe passage from Venezuela — but gave an ultimatum: report
Clarice Feldman: A strange week in which Nicolás Maduro was reduced to hoping that Mark Kelly could bail him out. Fracas in Caracas and Six for Sedition
Former Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn, who was ousted from his previous party amid antisemitism scandals, will not lead the party he founded earlier this year. Despite Corbyn advocating a single leader model, as is typical in most Western democratic parties, the now formally named ‘Your Party’ will not be led by him or his unruly acolyte and co-founder, Zarah Sultana, either. Socialist Corbynista Party Votes to Have No Leader, Will Be Run by Politburo-Style Committee (1990: slowly then all at once the USSR collapsed in a heap! - jjs)
DEFENSE, MILITARY, SECURITY AFFAIRS
Kelly said, “It seems to. If that is true, if what has been reported is accurate, I’ve got serious concerns about anybody in that chain of command stepping over a line that they should never step over. We are not Russia. We’re not Iraq. We hold ourselves to a very high standard of professionalism.” Kelly: First Caribbean Boat Strike a War Crime(says the traitorous piece of shit who fomented mutiny in the ranks - jjs)
Chronic vomiting tied to long-term marijuana use has now has been codified by health officials seeking to diagnose and track the mysterious disorder, which has been increasingly seen in emergency rooms this decade. Persistent Vomiting Caused by Chronic Cannabis Use Now an Official Disorder(and yet cannabis is touted as an anti-nausea panacea for cancer patients - jjs)
CULTURE WARS, NATIONAL SUICIDE
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“ Then Isaiah said, “Hear now, you house of David! Is it not enough to try the patience of humans? Will you try the patience of my God also? Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin[d] will conceive and give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.
Isaiah 7:13-14
Posted by: Marcus T at December 01, 2025 07:44 AM (ktuRE)
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Good morning again dear horde and happy birthday JJ
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2025 07:45 AM (I8Tp0)
Posted by: NR Pax at December 01, 2025 07:46 AM (+4yJ5)
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Eh. I am much more interested in his Thanksgiving Day tweet about just revoking status and deporting those from incompatible third-world shitholes. I strongly suspect nothing will come of it, but sending a couple of divisions to Minnesota and Michigan to denaturalize and deport the West-hating barbarians would be a hell of a thing to see.
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Remember kids a "religion" that preaches murder isn't a religion it is a death cult. Your death.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2025 07:47 AM (I8Tp0)
7That she has not been removed from office or at the barest of minimums severely reprimanded or disciplined is a disgrace. Meh, she is a total disgrace and considering to whom and what she has pledged her allegiance, represents a grave threat to our national security and societal coherence, that s what is left of it after decades of dissolution. ++++
Like the Devil, the Party takes care of its own.
8Meanwhile an horrific fire in Taiwan has many on edge. "Arresting dissidents, insulting civil society, Chicoms are behaving badly in the aftermath of the disaster." ++++
I think you mean Hong Kong
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First they came for the trade unionists and I didn't say anything because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Somalis and I didn't say anything because I was helping to fuel the helicopters.
Posted by: Knee Mauler at December 01, 2025 07:49 AM (XQo4F)
10To those paying attention, President Trump had hinted at his real perspective on The Relationship earlier this year when he stated, “The worst thing Nixon did wasn’t Watergate; it was allowing China to take advantage of this country. He and Kissinger are the ones who opened up China. And it was a terrible mistake. It didn’t have to be this way.” ++++
I missed that, which is too bad. I have been saying that for years.
Posted by: fuxupwichyou at December 01, 2025 07:50 AM (XLfSN)
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>> In 1787, Judge Robert Yates predicted what we see happening today: judges interfering in the political process to destroy the Trump administration.
It wasn’t just Yates. Read the anti-Federalist Papers. Today’s judiciary is everything Yates and the others feared- an unelected, tyrannical group of subversives unanswerable to anyone.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 01, 2025 07:50 AM (ktuRE)
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Laptop went lala land
Maybe its day are near the end.
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 01, 2025 07:50 AM (gbOdA)
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8 I think you mean Hong Kong
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 01, 2025 07:48 AM (Zp1WF)
FIXED. and say hello to Gail Fisher as Peggy
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 01, 2025 07:51 AM (x0n13)
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"One country, two systems" (really three, with four proposed) is shown to be what all knew it would be.
Trump cleared that up during his first term. Hong Kong is no longer special. It was one of the Chinas with which we could work (it and Taiwan), but not anymore. That whole "two systems" thing didn't last long. Hong Kong autonomy exists on paper, but decreasingly exists in reality and that decline has been underway for a long time now.
17 I seem to recall that he supposedly has a death sentence hanging over his head in some country for doing what he does best; destroy their currency.
Russia was one of them and I think Hungary is pissed off at him.
That being said, in an ideal world, he'd be dropped off inside the embassy of one of those countries with a note that says "He's all yours."
Posted by: NR Pax at December 01, 2025 07:51 AM (+4yJ5)
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FIXED. and say hello to Gail Fisher as Peggy
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 01, 2025 07:51 AM (x0n13)
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She returns your greeting. Pretty and competent as hell. She's a class act!
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I am much more interested in his Thanksgiving Day tweet about just revoking status and deporting those from incompatible third-world shitholes. I strongly suspect nothing will come of it, but sending a couple of divisions to Minnesota and Michigan to denaturalize and deport the West-hating barbarians would be a hell of a thing to see.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 01, 2025 07:47 AM (Zp1WF)
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He is all bluster all the time.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2025 07:52 AM (I8Tp0)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 01, 2025 07:53 AM (Cjt/F)
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I can perceive that the Left’s leadership group (whoever that is, some collection of the usual oligarchs, I presume) has chosen Mark Kelley as their hoped for 2028 nominee, and is scripting all these statements and efforts for him to raise his visibility.
It won’t work, I think it’s much like the GOP establishment’s try to push Jeb in 2014 and 2015. Kelley’s attempts to be a populist will fall very flat.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 01, 2025 07:54 AM (3U2FH)
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The video has English subtitles during Omar’s statements that she is in Congress to represent Somali Americans’ interests and that the “US will do what we want and nothing else.”
psst
Her name is either Sur or Elmi.
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 01, 2025 07:54 AM (gbOdA)
23The Spokesman for Luigi Mangione’s Defense Fund is a Communist Podcaster Who Works for the Sierra Club ++++
It's worth studying how the "environmental movement" evolved. It's a perfect, textbook example of communist subversion, even more than feminism is.
The reds infiltrated the environmental movement, which back then was called "conservationism," took over its weak institutions, converted to "environmentalism" and because an overt communist action complex.
The "environmental movement" as such has always been a communist agitation system. They infiltrated the conservationists, kicked them all out, rebranded it as environmentalism and took to the streets.
Rep. Ilhan Omar has said she represents Somalian interests, not American ones. Some claim that alone should be sufficient for her expulsion from Congress.
We all know; nothing will happen™
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 01, 2025 07:55 AM (NwnyJ)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 01, 2025 07:56 AM (DDJSl)
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Hong Kong people impressed many with their spontaneous charity towards their fellow citizens, setting up donation centers, finding housing for the burned-out homeless, including domestic servants, sheltering the pets, feeding firemen, and more.
Then their ChiCom rulers showed up, and it all got ugly.
Sounds like our FEMA but with less power.
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 01, 2025 07:56 AM (gbOdA)
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David Horowitz and his Radical Son is required reading if you want a better and more thorough understanding of the current Unpleasantness.
I know my history pretty well, of the 1960s, but (surprise!) a lot of the big names had their radical activism and their programs sanitized by the press. One can see the exact same playbook in operation today as used back then, it really is quite wicked.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 01, 2025 07:56 AM (V+4tn)
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I have a really bad feeling about that special election I. Tennessee.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 01, 2025 07:56 AM (BabZ5)
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The fire in Hong Kong was in government-built housing. The bamboo scaffolding didn't burn, it was the fiber cladding. The disaster is symbolic of all the lies the CCP told the Hong Kong people while destroying their sovereignty. Instead, the massive bureaucratic corruption that defines communist governance completely subsumed the formerly technocratic, responsive, and effective local government.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2025 07:56 AM (I8Tp0)
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> Kelley’s attempts to be a populist will fall very flat.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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part of his campaign would be based on his wife getting a hole in her head
wave that bloody shirt
and of course, the usual claims of moral superiority, which are part & parcel of any Democrat campaign
Posted by: Don Black at December 01, 2025 07:57 AM (RcARn)
33Choosing alternatives to the Educational Industrial Complex. ++++
I'm in the "rip the band-aid off" camp. Just end the system. Auction off the property, convert it to vouchers and let the dust settle. There will be a few quite bad years during the transition, but it can't be worse than what the government schools did during COVID and the trans stuff. It's already a failure. Just burn it down and let someone else rebuild it.
34This is the real scandal:
Not that Netflix crossed a line, but that Netflix knew the audience wouldn’t care.
They think America is so morally deadened that you can smuggle in sexually-charged horror metaphor aimed at kids — and most people won’t even notice the smell. ============
I have never seen this show ("Stranger Things") but I have heard it is Netflix' most profitable show. And money talks: Only if the show loses audience, will it be cleaned up, and until then it will not be. In that sense the degeneracy is a mirror to our cultural rot.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 01, 2025 07:57 AM (ACYIZ)
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He is all bluster all the time.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2025 07:52 AM (I8Tp0)
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Usually.
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That whole "two systems" thing didn't last long. Hong Kong autonomy exists on paper, but decreasingly exists in reality and that decline has been underway for a long time now.
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Exactly what anyone with a brain knew would happen.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 01, 2025 07:58 AM (BabZ5)
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I have never seen this show ("Stranger Things") but I have heard it is Netflix' most profitable show. And money talks: Only if the show loses audience, will it be cleaned up, and until then it will not be. In that sense the degeneracy is a mirror to our cultural rot.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 01, 2025 07:57 AM (ACYIZ)
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It won't matter. Final season.
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"“The worst thing Nixon did wasn’t Watergate; it was allowing China to take advantage of this country. He and Kissinger are the ones who opened up China. And it was a terrible mistake. It didn’t have to be this way.”
Nixon did this to counter the Soviet Union, which was an existential threat to us at the time. It was the Uniparty that later sold us out.
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 01, 2025 07:58 AM (dtajH)
Perhaps. But a presidents job is largely about setting the course not doing every single thing himself. He has a whole government getting paid to enact policies.
At least he is shining a light on issues which have never been topics outside blog world. Who was the last president who even suggested that people like Omar should be deported or Maduro should be deposed?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 01, 2025 07:59 AM (viF8m)
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Wasn't there an episode of Mannix where they teased a romantic interest between Joe and Peggy?
Posted by: Don Black at December 01, 2025 07:59 AM (RcARn)
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Exactly what anyone with a brain knew would happen.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 01, 2025 07:58 AM (BabZ5)
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As predictable as the sun rising in the east. There's a reason the well-connected and smart started fleeing even before the British Empire handed over Hong Kong.
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A President at Full Speed -- and a Congress Asleep at the Wheel
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I'm quibbling with "asleep at the wheel." They (the useless Republicans) are looking in the other direction. The distinction has meaning. They're running the same playbook with Trump that they did 2016-2020.
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 01, 2025 08:00 AM (qBdHI)
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>>As predictable as the sun rising in the east. There's a reason the well-connected and smart started fleeing even before the British Empire handed over Hong Kong.
Many went straight to Singapore. Nicer place anyway.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 01, 2025 08:00 AM (viF8m)
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Nixon did this to counter the Soviet Union, which was an existential threat to us at the time. It was the Uniparty that later sold us out.
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 01, 2025 07:58 AM (dtajH)
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There were few "guardrails" on opening China and few limits. Yes, it was later governments that finished the disastrous pivot (I'm looking at you, Clinton and Bush).
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I lot of this nonsense with Somalis like Omar goes all the way back to George HW Bush…. He lost an election and still decided to send troops to Somalia on a “humanitarian mission”…. Less than a year later we had Black Hawk Down. So George got to feel good about himself but then American soldiers died and today we’re saddled with shitholes like Minneapolis overrun by foreigners… great job George
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 01, 2025 08:02 AM (WnEm5)
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> Kelley’s attempts to be a populist will fall very flat.
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How flat is very flat?
Posted by: Grammar nerd at December 01, 2025 08:02 AM (XQo4F)
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I remember at the time Nixon went to to China, one of the explanations given was that China was too big not to go
think 'the elephant in the room', but on a global scale
Posted by: Don Black at December 01, 2025 08:02 AM (RcARn)
Trump is moving Overton windows. Changing the direction of this country is like steering a massive container ship.
There's been a steady drip drip drip of revelations, no? Not an accident and there'll be more.
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 01, 2025 08:02 AM (dtajH)
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The House (not sure about the Senate) used to be able to set their own rules as to membership.
It was not enough to win election in your district. As a final QC check, the House had to vote on your suitability as well. Theoretically at least, nutcases like Omar would be, or at least could be, rejected.
You’ll never guess what happened - that the courts decided to dictate how the congress operates and claimed this rule is a no-go. We had the “flash” a long time ago (on many things); only now lo these many years later we’re finally getting the “bang”. Cretins.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 01, 2025 08:02 AM (V+4tn)
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Remember when the globalists said free trade with China would make them a free, open, democratic society? Looking at you, Clinton and Bush.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 01, 2025 08:02 AM (BabZ5)
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I thought they would be smart enough not to kill the Golden Goose of Hong Kong.
Now we know they want power more than money.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2025 08:03 AM (I8Tp0)
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Hong Kong autonomy exists on paper, but decreasingly exists in reality and that decline has been underway for a long time now.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 01, 2025 07:51 AM (Zp1WF)
Exactly correct. Great Britain made a massive mistake by only signing a temporary lease for Hong Kong. It was the Jewel of Asia, but now it is, as you point out, merely an outpost of communist China.
Posted by: callsign claymore at December 01, 2025 08:04 AM (lKJou)
55The seriously retarded Governor of Minnesota, Tim Walz, does nothing, either through fear, incompetence, or both, while the worst “Congressman/woman” in our Country, Ilhan Omar, always wrapped in her swaddling hijab, and who probably came into the U.S.A. illegally in that you are not allowed to marry your brother, does nothing but hatefully complain about our Country, its Constitution, and how “badly” she is treated, when her place of origin is a decadent, backward, and crime ridden nation, which is essentially not even a country for lack of Government, Military, Police, schools, etc ========================
Trump, talking truth. Love the guy.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 01, 2025 08:05 AM (etkZU)
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Marwan Marouf, a Jordanian national and former director at the Muslim-American Society’s DFW chapter.
The ruling was made last Thursday by an immigration judge.
“Material support to terrorism” was cited by the judge as grounds for denying voluntary departure.
Old news. The Holy Land Foundation et al have been financing terrorism about 30 years here in Tex.
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 01, 2025 08:05 AM (gbOdA)
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I thought they would be smart enough not to kill the Golden Goose of Hong Kong.
Now we know they want power more than money.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2025 08:03 AM (I8Tp0)
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The greatest mistake most people make is thinking that it's about the money. Sure, they steal a lot of it, but that's expected and there's not reason not to. Despite that, it is *never* about the money for most of them.
And not just the ChiComs, but all of them, including "over here." It ain't about the money. Take the money away, and they will still do what they do. Someone who is after money has limits. He will eventually be largely satisfied and will stop advancing when it stops being profitable. Those people are gangsters, not statesmen. Statesmen aren't after money, they're after power as such and to the exclusion of everything else.
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 01, 2025 08:08 AM (tljrc)
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Remember when the globalists said free trade with China would make them a free, open, democratic society?
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The Internet alone the world wide web, was going to open up society all around the globe. I remember believing that. Golly was I naive. Turned out the opposite - Soviet style repression used in once formerly free nations. Oops
Posted by: Common Tater at December 01, 2025 08:08 AM (V+4tn)
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Cockles of the Heart status: {_]Warmed {_]Toasty {X]Extra Freakin' Crispy!
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{X]The Heat Of A Thousand Suns!
/And revoke the "US Citizenship" of every treasonous foreign invader like her who's fraudulently been "Naturalized" while since having broken their Oath of Allegiance to the USA by flying or otherwise displaying the flag of and/or publicly or privately professing allegiance to another country.
* spit *
Posted by: ShainS -- The Neo-Jacobins: Anarcho-Terrorism & Assassination Culture Since 1789 at December 01, 2025 08:08 AM (rCsCv)
The next phase dropped: look at Hegseth doing war crimes! Troops should have disobeyed!
Also text not subtext: when we get back in charge we are going to throw those guys back in jail.
Posted by: blaster at December 01, 2025 08:06 AM (RoO7G)
Yup.. It's amazing that "they" found potential "Illegal orders" so swiftly.. Almost seems planned...
Posted by: It's me donna at December 01, 2025 08:08 AM (VE6XX)
Posted by: Guys everywhere at December 01, 2025 08:08 AM (XQo4F)
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Hong Kong increasingly became an embarrassment for the CCP. It was a largely prosperous and relatively free oasis sitting right on their border demonstrating the folly of communist rule.
Last time I was there the Hong Kong authorities were limiting the number of mainland Chinese that could enter Hong Kong on a daily basis because they would take the train down from Shenzhen and clean the stores out of things like baby formula and toilet paper that were unavailable in China.
Hong Kong represented progress, China failure.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 01, 2025 08:08 AM (viF8m)
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I thought they would be smart enough not to kill the Golden Goose of Hong Kong.
Now we know they want power more than money.
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Our Democrats are the same way. Detroit in the 1950s was one of the wealthiest cities in America. Democrats reduced it to ruin. And they don't care. Because they have all the power.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 01, 2025 08:08 AM (yo5Ua)
Posted by: Bulg at December 01, 2025 08:09 AM (77rzZ)
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Remember when the globalists said free trade with China would make them a free, open, democratic society? Looking at you, Clinton and Bush.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 01, 2025 08:02 AM (BabZ5)
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This was the premise of free trade theory, and it mixed up causality in a fundamental way.
"Free men are rich" does not mean "rich men are free." It got causality backwards. The premise of "they will become free before we become poor because increased wealth will necessitate increased liberty" was incorrect.
Posted by: man at December 01, 2025 08:11 AM (XuXeR)
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I predict some back bench "news agency" will report, from "sources", that Hegseth participated in some sort of heinous war crime while on active duty. If you lie, make it a whopper so people believe it has to be true.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 01, 2025 08:11 AM (gm9Sb)
76
Today Is National Peppermint Bark Day.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 01, 2025 08:11 AM (NpAcC)
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I call BS.
77
The sense I get is "These buildings wouldn't have burned if we still ran things here."
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2025 08:12 AM (I8Tp0)
78
President Donald Trump suggested that Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) should be removed from the United States, referencing allegations that she “supposedly” entered the country by marrying her brother.
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These allegations are well documented and completely ignored by corporate media. Trump is referencing some new wild conspiracy theory again, put out there by islamophobes and racists no doubt, so the reader can safely ignore it. Fantastic job of reporting that is right there.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 01, 2025 08:12 AM (Dv3i1)
79
The fire in Hong Kong reminds of a residential tower fire in the UK a couple years ago. To save heating costs and “environmentally friendly “ or some such, the local town council had wrapped the entire tower in some kind of plastic insulation.
It never occurred to them that if a flame ever touched any part of this, the entire building was going to light up like a Roman candle, taking most of the residents with it. Which, of course, is exactly what happened.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 01, 2025 08:12 AM (3U2FH)
80
Foreign tourists to pay an extra $100 to enter major US national parks starting in 2026.
https://tinyurl.com/mr32ftw3
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I voted for this.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 01, 2025 08:13 AM (XQo4F)
81Yup.. It's amazing that "they" found potential "Illegal orders" so swiftly.. Almost seems planned...
Posted by: It's me donna
Article 138.5 of the UCMJ covers hurting liberal feelings.
Posted by: NR Pax at December 01, 2025 08:13 AM (+4yJ5)
82
Today Is National Peppermint Bark Day.
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Isn't also Luke World's AAAAAAAAAAAIDS day? When we feel sad for people who got a disease we've known how to avoid for 40+ years
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 01, 2025 08:14 AM (yo5Ua)
Posted by: man at December 01, 2025 08:14 AM (XuXeR)
84 the entire building was going to light up like a Roman candle, taking most of the residents with it. Which, of course, is exactly what happened.
Posted by: Tom Servo
The Chinese can just make more as evidenced by their population problem.
I'll show myself out.
Posted by: NR Pax at December 01, 2025 08:15 AM (+4yJ5)
85
13 Yup. Patrick Henry saw the out of control judges headed America's way before the Constitution was even adopted.
Posted by: callsign claymore at December 01, 2025 08:10 AM (lKJou)
Patrick Henry was one of those anti-federalists (opposed ratification of the constitution). I know we venerate the constitution around here (and we should) but the anti-federalists had a point when they argued a strong central government just might become oppressive
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 01, 2025 08:15 AM (WnEm5)
86
I am announcing I am closing the airspace over my mother in law's house.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2025 08:16 AM (I8Tp0)
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>>Yup.. It's amazing that "they" found potential "Illegal orders" so swiftly.. Almost seems planned...
A few weeks ago Slotkin gave a speech at the Brookings Institute where she basically laid out the framework of what was coming including predicting an attack on the National Guard. It's being posted on X by a few people.
It is clearly an op right out of the color revolution textbook.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 01, 2025 08:16 AM (viF8m)
When did we go from a society where you can have a discussion with somebody and go, “You know what? I don’t like your opinion. I’m going to disagree with you, but I’m not going to tell you why, I’m going to call the police. When did we get so thin-skinned as a society?
I cannot target the exact date but:
A significant increase in Pakistani immigration occurred after World War II. This was largely due to labor shortages in the UK, particularly in industries like steel, textiles, and engineering. The National Health Service (NHS) also recruited doctors from Pakistan during this time.
THEM HERE
THERE HERE
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 01, 2025 08:16 AM (gbOdA)
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The fire in Hong Kong reminds of a residential tower fire in the UK a couple years ago. To save heating costs and “environmentally friendly “ or some such, the local town council had wrapped the entire tower in some kind of plastic insulation.
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The Climate Cult has a body count.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 01, 2025 08:16 AM (yo5Ua)
90
In both Taiwan and in South Korea, pro-Communist parties are powerful, arguing "why fight?" to preserve independence, when you can get richer by surrendering freedom.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 01, 2025 08:16 AM (M1sT7)
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It is clearly an op right out of the color revolution textbook.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 01, 2025 08:16 AM (viF8m)
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Nasty playbook. Works well.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 01, 2025 08:17 AM (Zz0t1)
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71 NO Haitians, NO Somalis, NO Afghans.
Posted by: Bulg at December 01, 2025 08:10 AM (77rzZ)
40 year immigration hold.
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 01, 2025 08:17 AM (gbOdA)
96
The Collective Soul album that 'December' is on is great from start to finish. Should be in everyone's Collection.
Posted by: Bad Andrew at December 01, 2025 08:18 AM (6qf1m)
97
This was largely due to labor shortages in the UK, particularly in industries like steel, textiles, and engineering. The National Health Service (NHS) also recruited doctors from Pakistan during this time."
Importing labor always works so well...
Posted by: man at December 01, 2025 08:18 AM (XuXeR)
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Now we are going to get the deflection that he was "radicalized." Where was he radicalized? Was he radicalized on the internet? Before or after he came to the US? Is he part of a network? Did he have co-conspirators?
ALL LIES.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2025 08:19 AM (I8Tp0)
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 01, 2025 08:17 AM (gbOdA)
This is fine.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 01, 2025 08:19 AM (Zz0t1)
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He and Mark Kelly should only swing from the same noose.
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The Leftists and GloboHomo Deep State have been running a Color Revolution here in The US -- the 1st step, like A Cult, being to undermine the legitimacy and authority of the elected national leader, which is exactly what the seditious six are doing (going back at least to The Clintons & Gore in ’92.
[Sell also the blackout on conservative investigative journalism a la SmartMatic & Dominion along with Venezuela & Serbia in the massive multi-decade election fraud that has installed Satanic Nihilistic Communists in positions of power all throughout The West in general and The USA in particular (h/t Emerald Robinson and Patrick Byrne — former #Fake CEO of Overstock.com and CIA PsyOps Color Revolution Asset).]
And Speaking as an Arizonan: Mark Kelly — like the infantile Katie Hobbs — is a bought-and-paid-for treasonous GloboHomo Deep State ChiComm-, Cartel-, and Soros-Butt-Bitch (But I Repeat Myself Quinque).
Make Sedition, Insurrection, & Treason Executable Again!
Posted by: ShainS -- The Neo-Jacobins: Anarcho-Terrorism & Assassination Culture Since 1789 at December 01, 2025 08:20 AM (rCsCv)
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In both Taiwan and in South Korea, pro-Communist parties are powerful, arguing "why fight?" to preserve independence, when you can get richer by surrendering freedom.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 01, 2025 08:16 AM (M1sT7)
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Which has always had a lot of appeal to a lot of people. It's a lie, of course (the wealth, that is - not the slavery), but that never seems to matter.
It doesn't really mater what the ROK does. It's a dead letter within fifty years anyway and outside of transactional security concerns (e.g., engineering and manufacturing, especially in high tech), there is no point in worrying about it. They made their beds over the past 25 years and there will not be enough Koreans to matter in fifty more unless they start having kids and doing it fast (and even there, there will be a hell of a dip, and possibly a dip so big it falls anyway).
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clean the stores out of things like baby formula and toilet paper that were unavailable in China.
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It’s available, but it might kill your baby, so..
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Detroit was arguably the wealthiest city on the planet at one time. Argentina was # 3 wealthiest country at one time.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 01, 2025 08:20 AM (V+4tn)
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81 Yup.. It's amazing that "they" found potential "Illegal orders" so swiftly.. Almost seems planned...
Posted by: It's me donna
“Illegal orders” what idiots. They must believe that when the UK was attacking the Bismarck the entire British fleet should have gone home after the first hit, because it’s no fair to shoot at an enemy more than once.
Btw, if there is any doubt, the story about “survivors” after the first strike is a sick fantasy,. Not that it would have mattered, but it’s completely irrational to think there could have been any.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 01, 2025 08:20 AM (3U2FH)
105
A new NBC News poll finds that a full 63% of voters believe a four-year college degree now isn’t worth it, since many students graduate with “a large amount of debt” but no “specific job skills.”
That’s up markedly from 2013, when a majority took the opposite view, as 53% called a degree “worth the cost because people have a better chance to get a good job and earn more money over their lifetime.”
Obama created this when he National Socialized Student Loans.
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 01, 2025 08:21 AM (gbOdA)
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Good morning again Horde, thx JJ.
Good to see the Chauvin appeal. The prosecutor preparing a report of the DC pathologist influence and contacts with the Minnesota Dr, but not submit it to Chauvin's attorney is a clear Brady violation. And why was the DC pathologist involved? Can you say AG Holder?
Of course we'll see if the Minnesota courts have the guts to do the right thing
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 01, 2025 08:21 AM (bfwj/)
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Detroit was arguably the wealthiest city on the planet at one time. Argentina was # 3 wealthiest country at one time.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 01, 2025 08:20 AM (V+4tn)
Regan said it could be lost in a generation!
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 01, 2025 08:22 AM (gbOdA)
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I got an alumni magazine from an Arrogant U. recently. Cover photograph has five student leaders with either frowns or scowls on their faces. The place always had a lot of arrogant hyperachievers, but the good news is there is more ethnic diversity and more females among the arrogant hyperachievers.
Posted by: Fenderbender at December 01, 2025 08:22 AM (1FEc1)
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Trump’s refusal on both counts was said to be swift as he followed up with an offer that Maduro may not be able to refuse: Leave now or else.
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BREAKING: Maduro Awakes This Morning With John Kerry's Severed Head Lying Next To Him In Bed. Developing ...
Posted by: ShainS -- The Neo-Jacobins: Anarcho-Terrorism & Assassination Culture Since 1789 at December 01, 2025 08:22 AM (rCsCv)
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85 Yup. Patrick Henry was the best of the Anti-Federalists. His letters against the Constitution border on the prophetic.
Posted by: callsign claymore at December 01, 2025 08:22 AM (lKJou)
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The Chinese can just make more as evidenced by their population problem.
I'll show myself out.
Posted by: NR Pax at December 01, 2025 08:15 AM (+4yJ5)
No need. They do not respect human life. Why should they care whether a few hundred people die in a fire?
The next phase dropped: look at Hegseth doing war crimes! Troops should have disobeyed!
Also text not subtext: when we get back in charge we are going to throw those guys back in jail.
Posted by: blaster at December 01, 2025 08:06 AM (RoO7G)
Yup.. It's amazing that "they" found potential "Illegal orders" so swiftly.. Almost seems planned...
Posted by: It's me donna at December 01, 2025 08:08 AM (VE6XX)
There's no "seems" - it IS planned, and there will be at least 2-3 more steps in this Op if it plays well with the media and voters...if it starts wildly failing, they'll just move to the next planned Op...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2025 08:23 AM (tOcjL)
114
Trump's Al Czervik presidency annoys all the right people.
Posted by: mr tmz at December 01, 2025 08:23 AM (rJ48h)
115
31 The fire in Hong Kong was in government-built housing. The bamboo scaffolding didn't burn, it was the fiber cladding.
Yes, we have been absolved of all blame, just as we predicted!
Posted by: Big Bamboo at December 01, 2025 08:23 AM (oftw2)
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Obama created this when he National Socialized Student Loans.
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 01, 2025 08:21 AM (gbOdA)
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Meh. Not really. He made it worse and faster, but didn't create the problem. It took a lot of people a long time to break things as badly as they're broken.
War was a big reason. The GI Bill sent a lot of people to college, and set up a generational increase in enrollment. The Vietnam draft encouraged college enrollment in a big way, too. Cost problems led to the only government answer that it ever has: throw money at it. Bush 43 exempted student loans from bankruptcy law. The list goes on and on and on.
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The physician named Jeffrey Epstein, however, made the contributions to Zeldin in 2020, one year after the notorious sex offender perished.
“But you were trying to insinuate that it was the Jeffrey Epstein,” Alemany pressed.
“Oh, I absolutely was insinuating that it could be possible. That is true,” Crockett admitted.
99% of Democrats believe that lying about the other side is fair game and most do it daily.
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 01, 2025 08:24 AM (gbOdA)
118
"Let's be clear," the crazy-eyed NBC goblin says, trying to correct Noem about how well Biden vetted these savages. Wrong, you're not being clear -- you're lying, you sack of propagandistic shit. Noem does a decent job of setting the record straight.
We're in a total war with these people. Total, f*cking war.
Posted by: Ordinary American at December 01, 2025 08:25 AM (WHfpM)
119
Soros was convicted in absentia in Indonesia of a capital crime.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 01, 2025 08:25 AM (0U5gm)
120
80 Foreign tourists to pay an extra $100 to enter major US national parks starting in 2026.
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I read this as "Foreign terrorists". Finally, we're cracking down.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at December 01, 2025 08:25 AM (Dv3i1)
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> A few weeks ago Slotkin gave a speech at the Brookings Institute where she basically laid out the framework of what was coming including predicting an attack on the National Guard.
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Normally, this would result in something happening to Slotkin... like a prolonged detention so she could explain herself.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 01, 2025 08:25 AM (NwnyJ)
122
Does anybody know how to contact TJM to let him know his latest video is "Private," not public?
Posted by: tankdemon at December 01, 2025 08:26 AM (0tmNc)
123
Radically cutting back on student loans is one of the simplest, most effective ways for reform.
"For the children" who get stuck with the bill.
Up there with ending US AID and its progeny,
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 01, 2025 08:26 AM (dtajH)
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123 Radically cutting back on student loans is one of the simplest, most effective ways for reform.
"For the children" who get stuck with the bill.
Up there with ending US AID and its progeny,
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 01, 2025 08:26 AM (dtajH)
That is Trump's plan - most 4 year degrees are now limited to $100K in federal student loans...which is still ridiculous, but will keep the $250K folks with gender studies degrees lowered...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2025 08:27 AM (tOcjL)
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Student loans were exempted from bankruptcy because it had turned into a cottage industry. Get your law degree, for example, and then renege on payments. There were courses offered explaining how to do this. Pretty cool, huh?
Everyone seems to have forgotten that.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 01, 2025 08:27 AM (V+4tn)
126
A couple thoughts about the color revolution attempt - of course they hate Trump and want him gone, but I sincerely think that the main focus on the part of the left (at least those who are calling the shots) is a desperate attempt to protect Maduro and the international drug trade - and of course the same people are profiting from the human trafficking.
I now believe that the Cartels and our deep state elite are very close allies, and probably have always been.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 01, 2025 08:27 AM (3U2FH)
127
"Soros was convicted in absentia in Indonesia of a capital crime."
Didn't Batman grab a bad guy and deliver him into the hands of a righteous country.
Posted by: Ignoramus at December 01, 2025 08:28 AM (dtajH)
Posted by: redridinghood at December 01, 2025 08:28 AM (NpAcC)
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122 Does anybody know how to contact TJM to let him know his latest video is "Private," not public?
Posted by: tankdemon at December 01, 2025 08:26 AM
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Put a comment telling him so in his most recent public video and he'll likely read it.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 01, 2025 08:29 AM (XQo4F)
130It's also...
A Day Without Art Day.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 01, 2025 08:28 AM (NpAcC)
CBD hardest hit.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 01, 2025 08:30 AM (Zz0t1)
131
>>Normally, this would result in something happening to Slotkin... like a prolonged detention so she could explain herself.
Normally, they would have been able to get away with this op with nobody noticing.
Last night Hegseth was posting pictures of a cartoon turtle named Franklin sitting in a helicopter firing on narco terrorists.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 01, 2025 08:30 AM (viF8m)
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We're in a total war with these people. Total, f*cking war.
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Since 1968 if not before, but that was a watershed if an arbitrary date must be put on it.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 01, 2025 08:30 AM (V+4tn)
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> I now believe that the Cartels and our deep state elite are very close allies, and probably have always been.
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Running drugs is very lucrative. We've got an intelligence agency that likes to run lucrative fronts to make money for their other operations and not have to explain what the money's for.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 01, 2025 08:31 AM (NwnyJ)
134No need. They do not respect human life. Why should they care whether a few hundred people die in a fire?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
Well, there is a chance that some folks would get offended by my admittedly flippant remark about the death toll. But that's why I love you guys!
As for Chauvin? If his conviction is overturned, I hope the National Guard gets mobilized in the first five minutes and Roof Koreans are out in force.
Posted by: NR Pax at December 01, 2025 08:32 AM (+4yJ5)
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The “no fly” zone imposed over Venezuela is not about a planned military operation, I believe. I think it’s about shutting down economic lifelines to Maduro from Russia, China, and Brazil. Maduro is being financially starved; and a big part is destroying the income he desperately needs from the drug boats.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 01, 2025 08:32 AM (3U2FH)
136 Last night Hegseth was posting pictures of a cartoon turtle named Franklin sitting in a helicopter firing on narco terrorists.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 01, 2025 08:30 AM (viF8m)
Oh, but South Park really showed him.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 01, 2025 08:32 AM (Zz0t1)
137
It's also...
A Day Without Art Day.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 01, 2025 08:28 AM
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Which will mean A Day Without Limericks Day.
Posted by: Sad Limerick Lovers everywhere at December 01, 2025 08:32 AM (XQo4F)
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Which has always had a lot of appeal to a lot of people. It's a lie, of course (the wealth, that is - not the slavery), but that never seems to matter.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 01, 2025 08:20 AM (Zp1WF)
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That's very true, with one added bit of nuance: Politicians get rich surrendering their countries. See McConnell, Mitch (and probably many other Republicans) and the entire California delegation to Washington.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 01, 2025 08:33 AM (iXu4U)
139
The GI Bill sent a lot of people to college, and set up a generational increase in enrollment. The Vietnam draft encouraged college enrollment in a big way, too."
The various programs were nothing more than "college aid", meant to support then faltering institutions.
Posted by: man at December 01, 2025 08:33 AM (XuXeR)
140Student loans were exempted from bankruptcy because it had turned into a cottage industry. Get your law degree, for example, and then renege on payments. There were courses offered explaining how to do this. Pretty cool, huh?
Everyone seems to have forgotten that.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 01, 2025 08:27 AM (V+4tn)
My evil step-sister got her degree and filed for bankruptcy shortly after.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 01, 2025 08:33 AM (Zz0t1)
141A new NBC News poll finds that a full 63% of voters believe a four-year college degree now isn’t worth it
And of course the blame will fall on everything except the colleges themselves.
Posted by: NR Pax at December 01, 2025 08:34 AM (+4yJ5)
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> I now believe that the Cartels and our deep state elite are very close allies, and probably have always been.
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Tom Cruise made a movie on this plot, as did Mel Gibson before him.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 01, 2025 08:35 AM (iXu4U)
143
CBD hardest hit.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 01, 2025 08:30 AM (Zz0t1)
*****
A vacation day.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 01, 2025 08:35 AM (NpAcC)
144
Thinking About Crime at 50
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A not-very-adept attempt at arguing an obvious truth. Wilson was brilliant.
Posted by: Eeyore at December 01, 2025 08:35 AM (s0JqF)
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125 Student loans were exempted from bankruptcy because it had turned into a cottage industry. Get your law degree, for example, and then renege on payments. There were courses offered explaining how to do this. Pretty cool, huh?”
The proper policy would have been to allow it, because then that would have greatly heightened requirements for getting such a loan, such as a co-signer who could not default. The number is such loans given would drop dramatically, school enrollments would not have exploded, and neither would costs.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 01, 2025 08:36 AM (3U2FH)
146
500 comments if CBD puts up a blank canvas for the art.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 01, 2025 08:36 AM (sDNVV)
147
In a land where the rhymes often play,
A limerick brightens the day.
With a skip and a hop,
It can’t help but stop,
Leaving laughter and joy in its sway.
Posted by: This is what happens when you ask DuckAi to write you a limerick about limericks at December 01, 2025 08:37 AM (XQo4F)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 01, 2025 08:38 AM (Zz0t1)
149
128 It's also...
A Day Without Art Day.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 01, 2025 08:28 AM (NpAcC)
So CBD will be presenting a Jackson Pollack for the Morning Art Thread?
Posted by: tankdemon at December 01, 2025 08:38 AM (0tmNc)
150
What’s the status of the other National Guardsman who was shot?
Posted by: Bulg at December 01, 2025 08:38 AM (77rzZ)
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Student loans were exempted from bankruptcy because it had turned into a cottage industry. Get your law degree, for example, and then renege on payments. There were courses offered explaining how to do this. Pretty cool, huh?
Everyone seems to have forgotten that.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 01, 2025 08:27 AM (V+4tn)
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I haven't. There was no reason to exempt student loans from bankruptcy law.
There may have been a reason to stop writing student loans, though.
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This is what happens when you ask DuckAi to write you a limerick about limericks"
No Nantucket, no care...
Posted by: man at December 01, 2025 08:38 AM (XuXeR)
153
> >>Normally, this would result in something happening to Slotkin... like a prolonged detention so she could explain herself.
Normally, they would have been able to get away with this op with nobody noticing.
Last night Hegseth was posting pictures of a cartoon turtle named Franklin sitting in a helicopter firing on narco terrorists.
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Are you saying the color revolution these people started is in effect and the administration is aware of it? I can sort of believe that, but you'd think the administration would take it a bit more seriously than posting a cartoon. Slotkin and her ilk need to be interrogated regardless.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 01, 2025 08:39 AM (NwnyJ)
154
The various programs were nothing more than "college aid", meant to support then faltering institutions.
Posted by: man at December 01, 2025 08:33 AM (XuXeR)
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Food Stamps were originally a form of farm aid. There is a decent argument that it should go back to that.
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145 The proper policy would have been to allow it, because then that would have greatly heightened requirements for getting such a loan
I like the colleges being on the hook for the loans. After all, they claim that the student will have a better life with a degree. If that is not the case, they can pay for selling a defective product.
This will drop tuition rates and get rid of worthless programs.
Posted by: NR Pax at December 01, 2025 08:40 AM (+4yJ5)
157
I suspect Soros has enough influence worldwide to make those death sentences in other countries just window dressing.
Posted by: davidt at December 01, 2025 08:41 AM (Q+gd/)
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154 The various programs were nothing more than "college aid", meant to support then faltering institutions.
Posted by: man at December 01, 2025 08:33 AM (XuXeR)
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Food Stamps were originally a form of farm aid. There is a decent argument that it should go back to that.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 01, 2025 08:39 AM (Zp1WF)
It would cut our expenses in half since we still give a ton of farm aid even though we split SNAP from it, so we're now paying double...again, I think we should have boxes of overage crops from the farms that folks can pick up - healthier, too, b/c then fresh fruit, veg, grains, and dairy actually happen in the current SNAP user's diet.
Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2025 08:41 AM (tOcjL)
162
The cartels are linked to the CIA. The CIA is linked to our elites.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 01, 2025 08:41 AM (viF8m)
163
Federal Judges Are Becoming A Form Of Tyranny
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The question is what to do about it? Impeachment is simply not an effective option anymore.
This is something that happens every so often. The established way of dealing with a problem no longer works. So what to do? Usually, the fixes turn out to be less than ideal, and have to be fixed themselves. (Remember, we had the Articles before we had the Constitution.)
Posted by: Eeyore at December 01, 2025 08:41 AM (s0JqF)
It will turn out the bamboo scaffolding will have been the least flammable thing around Hong Kong SAR's Grenfell Tower at Wang Fuk Court.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 01, 2025 08:42 AM (dnZHb)
165I think I am one of the few morons who likes Collective Soul.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 01, 2025 08:40 AM (Zp1WF)
They've never done much for me. Lead singer was whiny and their music was mostly bland cookie cutter stuff.
Meh.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at December 01, 2025 08:42 AM (Zz0t1)
166
There once was a man from Nantucket,
Whose poems were grand, he would pluck it.
With rhythm and rhyme,
He’d dance every time,
And the crowd would all cheer, “Just truck it!”
Posted by: OMG DuckAi that's awful! at December 01, 2025 08:42 AM (XQo4F)
167
Last night Hegseth was posting pictures of a cartoon turtle named Franklin sitting in a helicopter firing on narco terrorists.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 01, 2025 08:30 AM (viF8m)
Data Republican turned it into a video
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 01, 2025 08:42 AM (gbOdA)
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I think I am one of the few morons who likes Collective Soul.
............. ...... ......
Looking forward to my Spotify wrapped to see what I was listening to this year.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 01, 2025 08:42 AM (BabZ5)
169
There once was a man from Nantucket,
Whose poems were grand, he would pluck it.
With rhythm and rhyme,
He’d dance every time,
And the crowd would all cheer, “Just truck it!”
Posted by: OMG DuckAi that's awful! at December 01, 2025 08:42 AM (XQo4F)
++++
Yeesh
173
A few weeks ago Slotkin gave a speech at the Brookings Institute where she basically laid out the framework of what was coming including predicting an attack on the National Guard. It's being posted on X by a few people.
It is clearly an op right out of the color revolution textbook.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 01, 2025 08:16 AM (viF8m)
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We all probably underestimated Slotkin (except for JackStraw, probably), thinking she was just another rich girl with AWFL views, and not concentrating enough on her CIA color revolution bona fides.
Newish NJ Senator Kim, who was elected after Bob Menendez went into prison, is another CIA plant.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 01, 2025 08:45 AM (iXu4U)
174
No such luck.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 01, 2025 08:41 AM (Zv8bq)
******
Art is subjective.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 01, 2025 08:45 AM (NpAcC)
175
My siblings and I disagree greatly on college strategy for our kids...my goal (and my kids have internalized this) is to graduate debt free if they go to college. My sibs think you still go away to the best college you can get into, damn the debt.
I had the 1st kid into the workforce, and she's debt free, and very dateable/marriable (if any Horde member has a son in the area in the mid-to-late 20s/early 30s - she's looking now that she's settled into work - just sayin'...next kid of my siblings will also be debt free but b/c of full scholarship (and he went local as well but did also have free room and board), so we won't know til kid 3 of my sibs what the best strategy is b/c he's gonna have 100K of debt and a finance/econ degree...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2025 08:45 AM (tOcjL)
176
It will turn out the bamboo scaffolding will have been the least flammable thing around Hong Kong SAR's Grenfell Tower at Wang Fuk Court.
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 01, 2025 08:42 AM (dnZHb)
I know of 2 half million dollar home hear me leveled with remodeling incidents.
1. Painting a bathroom (oil based) and turned on vent kaboom
2. Gas leak and New Years fireworks.
There is much construction shit that like to go kaboom!
Posted by: r hennigantx at December 01, 2025 08:45 AM (gbOdA)
There's a sculpture called Kryptos at the CIA offices in McLean, Virginia, which contains four panels of encrypted text. Three have been decrypted by puzzle-solvers, but the fourth has defied all attempts since the installation was created in 1990.
The artist, now aged 80, has auctioned off his notes and clues to the contents of that fourth panel... For close to $1 million.
It supports everything from the Ohio Scientific Challenger 1, which shipped in 1976, to the Commander X16, which shipped as a developer edition last year and is available for purchase right now.
It has a 5" 2560x1920 screen - and a 1" secondary screen - and a QWERTY keyboard with a number row at the top and a function/punctuation row at the bottom. It's powered by a Qualcomm Snapdragon Elite and equipped with 24GB of RAM and 1.5TB of storage.
Price is not mentioned, and you might be best off not asking.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at December 01, 2025 04:22 AM (sAmhv)
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Good morning. Pretty chilly here in Cowtown, about 36 with only 41 on tap for later this afternoon. Got the tree up and the lights on. Gotta get 'nog and cider so the grandkids can put the ornaments on after dinner tonight.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 01, 2025 04:26 AM (3Ope8)
15
13 Read Dion's Wiki page. He seems normal.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at December 01, 2025 04:22 AM (sAmhv)
If you play his albums backward on vinyl it's all speeches about how legalizing cannibalism is the true libertarian position.
Posted by: Dion thinks we're meat at December 01, 2025 04:28 AM (96SAf)
16
Man who had been in the military reflects on James: 1:1-8 and perseverance in Christ:
https://tinyurl.com/mwuavmp8
Posted by: FenelonSoije at December 01, 2025 04:38 AM (As86G)
17
For all the Linux Fans around here, this just dropped yesterday:
Where Linus Sebastian, creator of Linus Tech Tips, meets, interviews, and builds an AMD Threadripper system for Linus Torvalds, creator of Linux.
https://youtu.be/mfv0V1SxbNA
It's actually a decent interview of Linus by Linus.
I don't know anything about Torvalds, but he's got a pretty good sense of humor as far as I can tell, and I learned a few things.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 01, 2025 04:39 AM (6ydKt)
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IF I CHANGE MY UNDERWEAR WILL YOU FINALLY LOVE ME!?
Posted by: MUMR at December 01, 2025 04:41 AM (1OGkI)
Posted by: FenelonSoije at December 01, 2025 04:45 AM (PFs9e)
20The remaining features of the BlackBerry-esque smartphone include an IR blaster, so the Lotus Diplomat can be used as a TV remote, for instance.
Always a hand dandy feature in a phone that will probably cost $3000.
The Lotus watchface in the middle of the keyboard is... something.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 01, 2025 04:52 AM (6ydKt)
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Oh, now I see the watchface is a 1"-sized Always-On IPS display.
The small display has two operating modes. When the device is in active use, the small display works in conjuction [sic] with the 4-position frame-button and, when pressed, confirms the action with an OK key. When the device is locked, the small display switches to always-on display.
You can see it on the funky-looking website.
https://www.lotus-jb.com/
If you scroll down to the bottom there's a paragraph explaining their plans and one part is to put out a watch as well, so I guess that's an explanation.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 01, 2025 05:01 AM (6ydKt)
22
"Three have been decrypted by puzzle-solvers, but the fourth has defied all attempts"
This seems like it would be a grok-able problem. Is Musk just not aware?
Posted by: f2000 at December 01, 2025 05:05 AM (Tqtts)
29
Good morning, everyone! I now face the reality that I had to go back to work. But at least I have coffee.
Posted by: NR Pax at December 01, 2025 05:27 AM (+4yJ5)
30
I'a Owe, I'a Owe
So off to work I go
Have a great day horde
Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2025 05:28 AM (Ia/+0)
31 Large language models, insignificant accomplishments outcomes
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 01, 2025 05:31 AM (xG4kz)
32
Very cold weather moving into the NE this week, much below normal. I hope all the EV school buses run, but I'm sure the routes will have to be short, leaving kids waiting at the bus stops. I've seen this before cold start to winter and then a gradual warmup later in the month of December.
Posted by: Colin at December 01, 2025 05:33 AM (wlQdF)
I love you, Lord, my strength.
2 The Lord is my rock, my fortress and my deliverer;
my God is my rock, in whom I take refuge,
my shield and the horn[c] of my salvation, my stronghold.
3 I called to the Lord, who is worthy of praise,
and I have been saved from my enemies.
4 The cords of death entangled me;
the torrents of destruction overwhelmed me.
5 The cords of the grave coiled around me;
the snares of death confronted me.
6 In my distress I called to the Lord;
I cried to my God for help.
From his temple he heard my voice;
my cry came before him, into his ears.
Posted by: FenelonSoije at December 01, 2025 05:36 AM (ZeH0U)
34 The Conversation is a nonprofit, independent news organization dedicated to unlocking the knowledge of experts for the public good.
Experience suggests that "experts" are all too eager to unlock their "knowledge", often to the detriment of others, the non-experts. Who get exactly what they deserve.
"No need to thank us!"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 01, 2025 05:37 AM (xG4kz)
35Please tell me you didn't dip your sausages in the syrup!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 01, 2025 05:26 AM (HW7D1)
Have you considered seeking professional counseling for this syrup phobia of yours?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 01, 2025 05:37 AM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Pete Bog at December 01, 2025 05:40 AM (pearg)
37 I spent yesterday with the missus in a class creating a pendant with metal clay (i.e., particles of 0.999 silver in a binder that burned away when the piece was heated in a kiln for one hour) and a small embedded gemstone. It was both educational and enjoyable.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 01, 2025 05:43 AM (xG4kz)
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Good morning Horde, thx Pixy.
37° at the moment, going to a high of , yup, 39°. Then tomorrow 5-8 inches of snow here in Mid Hudson, out to a foot in the mountains. Skiers will be happy
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 01, 2025 05:44 AM (bfwj/)
39
Lies my defunded fake news media channel told me:
Jason Locasale @LocasaleLab
18h
This is a small window into the rot of the modern biomedical system. This NPR segment gets it completely backwards.
We’re told that a breast cancer researcher at Harvard is losing a third of her staff because of funding cuts.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 01, 2025 05:48 AM (Cjt/F)
42We’re told that a breast cancer researcher at Harvard is losing a third of her staff because of funding cuts.
I'm betting that cancer researchers, particularly breast cancer researchers, could probably get reasonable funding from the public if the government weren't hoovering up every dollar in sight to funnel to their preferred causes/people.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 01, 2025 05:49 AM (ExV1e)
43
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 01, 2025 05:43 AM (xG4kz)
I'm glad you enjoyed it. It sounds great !
Posted by: FenelonSoije at December 01, 2025 05:50 AM (7RYym)
G'morning Horde.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 01, 2025 05:17 AM (O7YUW)
; )
Posted by: m at December 01, 2025 05:58 AM (RuTUS)
49
45 w00t
Posted by: m at December 01, 2025 05:51 AM (RuTUS)
Calm down, buddy.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 01, 2025 05:52 AM (ExV1e)
w00t!!!
Posted by: m at December 01, 2025 05:59 AM (RuTUS)
50
Speaking of "Woot" the video in post 19 has an owl in snow at about the 18 or 19 second mark.
Posted by: FenelonSoije at December 01, 2025 06:01 AM (7RYym)
51 I'm betting that cancer researchers, particularly breast cancer researchers, could probably get reasonable funding ...
All the sob stories these days concerning Planned Parenthood having to close centers because their funding streams are drying up. Golly gee, I thought there was an enthusiastic constituency for your abattoirs who would happily makeup any monetary shortfall because they were true believers in your cause. Might you have been lying to us?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 01, 2025 06:02 AM (xG4kz)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 01, 2025 06:04 AM (Cjt/F)
53
Evening and morning, weary wanderers north and south. Yes, it's true, it's Monday again -- and after a nice long weekend, too. But please to remember:
"Compared to being on the wrong side of the ground, even a bad Monday is pretty small kumquats, nicht wahr?"
(It helps if you read this in a Peter Lorre voice)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 01, 2025 06:04 AM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 01, 2025 06:05 AM (0cOaq)
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Anyhow! Here I am, awake (for certain values of "awake"), sipping my coffee and preparing to feed certain instances of cats. Howz ever'body?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 01, 2025 06:05 AM (wzUl9)
56Golly gee, I thought there was an enthusiastic constituency for your abattoirs who would happily makeup any monetary shortfall because they were true believers in your cause.
I have noticed that within the hour of Planned Parenthood posting "We're going to have to shut down!" they get a lot of money to make up the shortfall. Almost as if they'd do just fine as a private entity.
Posted by: NR Pax at December 01, 2025 06:07 AM (+4yJ5)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 01, 2025 06:08 AM (Cjt/F)
58
(It helps if you read this in a Peter Lorre voice)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 01, 2025 06:04 AM (wzUl9)
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Just rewatched "Casablanca" last night and was reminded again of how good an actor Lorre was. Just see how many changes in emotional nuance he goes through in his scene with Bogart.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 01, 2025 06:10 AM (0cOaq)
59Man. What a blow to the internet. InspiredHistoryMike is banned. By somebody. Somewhere. Man.
Posted by: Life is Pain at December 01, 2025 04:20 AM (s76Rv)
I'll bet you're fun at parties.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 01, 2025 06:11 AM (/HDaX)
60
We're seeing 53 F. now, 10 mph wind, wind chill 49. Not bad workout weather. The rain we were promised yesterday, and then for this morning, won't be here until this afternoon. No point in washing the car today, in other words. Despite the nice conditions, I do not feel like hitting the trail.
Miss Linda's birthday is today. I have to hit the grocery -- which means Walmart, as I need a birthday card. Actually two: one, more serious, from me, and one "from the cats."
She's getting some flavored coffee, two new lipsticks (she picked 'em), and I'll get her a year's phone service.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 01, 2025 06:12 AM (wzUl9)
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All the sob stories these days concerning Planned Parenthood having to close centers because their funding streams are drying up. Golly gee, I thought there was an enthusiastic constituency for your abattoirs who would happily makeup any monetary shortfall because they were true believers in your cause. Might you have been lying to us?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at December 01, 2025 06:02 AM (xG4kz)
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PeePee's funding ends as of today. Grok with the details:
63 (It helps if you read this in a Peter Lorre voice)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 01, 2025
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Just rewatched "Casablanca" last night and was reminded again of how good an actor Lorre was. Just see how many changes in emotional nuance he goes through in his scene with Bogart.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 01, 2025
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Besides the serial killer in M, he played Japanese detective Mr. Moto in several flicks in the late pre-war years, before Pearl Harbor ended that series.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 01, 2025 06:18 AM (wzUl9)
65
Every time I see a clip of Walz he seems to be getting nuttier. He's going to go full bleb out soon
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 01, 2025 06:24 AM (bfwj/)
66AI is transforming spacecraft propulsion - and may lead to nuclear-powered rockets. (Fast Company) (archive site)
No it isn't, and no it won't.
This is about machine learning, not language models. ML had a good history of actually doing useful work prior to LLMs and it will survive any LLM bubble just fine.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 01, 2025 06:26 AM (QZThv)
67Every time I see a clip of Walz he seems to be getting nuttier. He's going to go full bleb out soon
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 01, 2025
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"Bleb"? As in flipping your lips with a finger, "blebbity-blebbity-blebbity"?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 01, 2025 06:26 AM (wzUl9)
68
How's about zero gubbernmint funding?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 01, 2025 06:20 AM (mOv6P)
Theoretically? Yes!
But very large scale projects might need government involvement...which lead to incredible waste and the gobbling up of resources.
69
@67 Wolfus, term from when I was in college. Meant to lose your marbles in a spectacular, public way.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 01, 2025 06:30 AM (bfwj/)
70
As for what I want for myself for Xmas . . . I suppose a new pair of boots would pretty much fit within the budget. Or a new pipe (much cheaper, but I can't use that in public). I've told Linda she needs to give me specifics about any gifts for her: "I can't read your mind and I won't be responsible if you don't tell me what you want."
She wants a "surprise." Fine, but half the time, or more, I pick the wrong thing and it has to go back. I don't want that trouble.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 01, 2025 06:34 AM (wzUl9)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 01, 2025 06:44 AM (WPL6O)
74
Wolfus, have you considered a voucher for a day spa?
Posted by: Button-Pushing-Monkey at December 01, 2025 06:44 AM (EcHpA)
75 Wolfus, have you considered a voucher for a day spa?
Posted by: Button-Pushing-Monkey at December 01, 2025
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I bought her a spa visit some years ago. It went over reasonably well.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 01, 2025 06:48 AM (wzUl9)
76 Wolfus, have you considered a voucher for a day spa?
Posted by: Button-Pushing-Monkey at December 01, 2025
I bought her a spa visit some years ago. It went over reasonably well.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 01, 2025 06:48 AM
how 'bout a Palmetto State Armory gift card?
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 01, 2025 06:50 AM (tljrc)
77how 'bout a Palmetto State Armory gift card?
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 01, 2025
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I'm not sure what that is. I mentioned a gift card last night and got a side-eye look that would have frozen fresh lava.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 01, 2025 06:54 AM (wzUl9)
78
I am thinking a sandwich press is out of the question
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 01, 2025 06:54 AM (eQgbs)
79
So according to the Worldometer. we're at over 41.5 million abortions globally and slightly over 57 million deaths from all other causes this year.
Posted by: Button-Pushing-Monkey at December 01, 2025 06:56 AM (EcHpA)
80
Unrelated news: I'm still having fun watching people assert with the full force of idiocy that targeting smugglers is a war crime. As I mentioned yesterday, there are people convinced that Hegseth will be handed over to the Hague for trial once Trump is out of office.
Posted by: NR Pax at December 01, 2025 06:56 AM (+4yJ5)
Whoops. Whoopsie.
You may not know it, but now you don't have a mancard either!
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 01, 2025
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I'm not Southern, man. Anything with the name "Palmetto State" in it is outside my ken. If you mean a shooting range, hell yes, I'd like that for myself.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 01, 2025 06:59 AM (wzUl9)
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Walz is a sick, disgusting fuck who dishonored his service and uniform, and belongs in front of a wall.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at December 01, 2025 06:57 AM (vFbHf)
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87
"LLVM-MOS is a fork of the LLVM compiler suite for the 6502. (LLVM-MOS)"
also of interest to Bender, the bending robot ...
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 01, 2025 07:00 AM (Cjt/F)
88
We may take comfort in the idea that when recalled Captain Giffords is assigned command of the decommissioned Space Station, he's likely to have Walz as his Sergeant Major up there.
Should be a lot like Rosencrantz and Guildenstern in Space.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 01, 2025 07:01 AM (zdLoL)
89I gifted this a couple of years ago. It went over pretty good
https://is.gd/TSHZOM
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 01, 2025
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Damn. The late Mrs. Wolfus No. 2 would have loved that.
Linda, not so much. A candle is a good idea, just not that one!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 01, 2025 07:01 AM (wzUl9)
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"88 We may take comfort in the idea that when recalled Captain Giffords is assigned command of the decommissioned Space Station, he's likely to have Walz as his Sergeant Major up there.
Should be a lot like Rosencrantz and Guildenstern in Space.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 01, 2025 07:01 AM (zdLoL) "
popcorn-worthy!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 01, 2025 07:04 AM (Cjt/F)
Try a different browser. I'm using Brave and that site has a problem with its privacy / adblock implementation.
Posted by: Halfhand at December 01, 2025 07:06 AM (EZl3y)
92
mornin yall. The first microcomputer I ever used was the OSI 6502 clone that my dad and I built in 1976. 4k RAM, no permanent storage, programmed in hex. We typed in the code for Hangman and it lasted a few days until the power went out. We played around with it for a year or so, did some upgrades and learned a lot before it was replaced with one of the first TRS-80s. It had cassette storage! What a luxury.
Posted by: fd at December 01, 2025 07:08 AM (vFG9F)
93
Continuing my complete geeking out, picked up a three pack of touch displays that have integrated ESP32 dev boards, set up a little webserver on it to serve some system pages and a news crawl.
More than likely going to create a home management access point.
People are makign Bitcoin lottery miner's with these things.
But sky's the limit with these things.
The amount of tech we have access now is staggering.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 01, 2025 07:10 AM (XV/Pl)
TRUTH NUKE: “Just so we're CLEAR - if a foreigner comes to your country and demands you accept their culture as your culture, or demands that you change your beliefs for their religious needs? That is NOT an immigrant!”
"That's an invader."
Send them all back!
X video: https://bit.ly/4iEYUGT
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 01, 2025 07:13 AM (P5BPp)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2025 07:15 AM (I8Tp0)
97
Why on earth would you want AI in your... router?!
Also, what is Google Antigravity? Aside from being pompously named?
Posted by: GWB at December 01, 2025 07:15 AM (PQiTP)
98Google Antigravity just wiped my D drive
*
Vibe coders. lol.
Posted by: Halfhand at December 01, 2025
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Wait. Gorgle has gravity control??? Can I get a unit so I can bump up the gravs to 1.25 during my workouts, then down to .7 or .8 for the rest of the time?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 01, 2025 07:15 AM (wzUl9)
>>mornin yall. The first microcomputer I ever used was the OSI 6502 clone that my dad and I built in 1976. 4k RAM, no permanent storage, programmed in hex.
Adjusted for inflation, the C64 a 6502 based computer was almost 2k dollars.
You can pick up a three pack of esp32 SOC's for 17 bucks, that are orders of magnitude more capable, in fact you could run a c64 emulator on one and store every game ever created in a portable device the size of a Altoids can.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 01, 2025 07:16 AM (XV/Pl)
100
Carmen Di Genio - Lawyer of the Equal Opportunities Committee of the Court of Appeal of Salerno:
"We cannot expect an African to know that you cannot rape a person on the beach in Italy because he probably doesn't even know, he really doesn't know."
YouTube: https://bit.ly/4rA5JxI
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 01, 2025 07:16 AM (P5BPp)
Posted by: Old Lady Rodham at December 01, 2025 07:18 AM (XQo4F)
102
Maybe they need some "No Raping"'signs on the beaches.
Posted by: fd at December 01, 2025 07:18 AM (vFG9F)
103
Windows 11 absolutely sucks, it's installing updates... AGAIN.
You turn it on, it installs updates, you turn it off it installs updates, you go away for a cup of coffee and come back and it's installing updates.
Ughh..
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 01, 2025 07:19 AM (XV/Pl)
104102 Maybe they need some "No Raping" signs on the beaches.
Posted by: fd
Or the "No No Square" dance from Finland.
I am not making that up.
Posted by: NR Pax at December 01, 2025 07:19 AM (+4yJ5)
105Carmen Di Genio - Lawyer of the Equal Opportunities Committee of the Court of Appeal of Salerno:
"We cannot expect an African to know that you cannot rape a person on the beach in Italy because he probably doesn't even know, he really doesn't know."
YouTube: https://bit.ly/4rA5JxI
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 01, 2025
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Then send said African back to his "culture." We don't let retarded people run nuclear plants or drive cars; they "don't know" about those things.
Wait. Maybe the first part of my second sentence is out of date.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 01, 2025 07:19 AM (wzUl9)
106
fd, the rapists probably can't read do the signs would have be done in a picture.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 01, 2025 07:20 AM (sDNVV)
Posted by: African who raped a person on a beach in Italy at December 01, 2025 07:20 AM (XQo4F)
108 Carmen Di Genio - Lawyer of the Equal Opportunities Committee of the Court of Appeal of Salerno:
"We cannot expect an African to know that you cannot rape a person on the beach in Italy because he probably doesn't even know, he really doesn't know."
@Carmen - you're a stupid slut and should house the savage that did the raping until he does learn not to do it again.
Posted by: BifBewalski at December 01, 2025 07:22 AM (QVmho)
109
One rape a month ought to be enough for anybody.
Posted by: Karen McAwfl at December 01, 2025 07:24 AM (XQo4F)
110
You can't give a woman a gift card as a gift. Gift card says, 'screw it- just take this'.
Also, never buy sexy lingerie for a woman. It's 50/50 you even see it on her once.
Posted by: Don Black at December 01, 2025 07:25 AM (RcARn)
111
Carmen has zero compassion for abused and victimized women.
She should reap what she has sown.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2025 07:25 AM (I8Tp0)
112
Walmart opens at seven. Best if I nip over there shortly, get my groceries, and come back to shower &c. Even with my hair tousled from bed, I'm more presentable in public than 90% of the shoppers nowadays.
I'll wear a hat. Problem solved.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 01, 2025 07:25 AM (wzUl9)
113
"You can't give a woman a gift card as a gift. Gift card says, 'screw it- just take this"
This is true. Wolfus should get her one of those nifty PSA kits, with a lower for a stocking stuffer.
Posted by: fd at December 01, 2025 07:26 AM (vFG9F)
114
"Either you give me your number right now and I'll go, or we stay here until 5am and I'll follow you all the way home to your house, where you live. And then I'll find out your contact details and number that way. Therefore the first option is easier for you."
"I don't want to give you my number."
"Yeah, but where I'm from, where I come from..."
"I don't want a relationship."
"Yeah, me neither. I want exactly the same thing you do."
"Yeah, ok."
"Come on, let's do it quickly."
"No, sorry, no, no... Oh my God!"
YouTube: https://bit.ly/4rA5JxI
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 01, 2025 07:27 AM (P5BPp)
115
Be sure to wear your pajamas and fuzzy slippers.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 01, 2025 07:27 AM (XQo4F)
116 You can't give a woman a gift card as a gift. Gift card says, 'screw it- just take this'.
Also, never buy sexy lingerie for a woman. It's 50/50 you even see it on her once.
Posted by: Don Black at December 01, 2025
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Exactly. The late Mrs. Wolfus No. 2 was an exception to your second rule, though. But she was one in 50,000,000.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 01, 2025 07:27 AM (wzUl9)
Posted by: The good people of Target at December 01, 2025 07:29 AM (XQo4F)
118
“We cannot expect an African to know that you cannot rape a person on the beach in Italy”
Heck no, getting an ID is super tough, too
Posted by: Democrats at December 01, 2025 07:32 AM (V+4tn)
119
Your rulers laugh when a Muslim or an Aztec street gladiator rapes someone in your family.
That's one of the reasons they brought them to you.
They hate you.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 01, 2025 07:33 AM (BI5O2)
120
YouTuber Sasha Yanshin explains hot tech companies, especially centered around AI, are using "round-tripping" to inflate revenue numbers:
"Big Tech is Faking Revenue"
https://youtu.be/CBCujAQtdfQ
It's a very good explanation on what's happening right now.
If this isn't bubble behavior, then I don't know what is.
It reminds me of all the "Collateralized Debt Obligations" (CDOs) that caused the 2008 meltdown.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 01, 2025 07:34 AM (6ydKt)
121
119 ... and want you to suffer before you die,.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 01, 2025 07:34 AM (Cjt/F)
122
I'm reading a novel and finding it annoying that the adjective "black" must be capitalized when describing a person.
Posted by: M. Gaga at December 01, 2025 07:35 AM (KiBMU)
123
121 And that is why my default mode will be "I will harm you and I don't care what happens afterward."
Posted by: NR Pax at December 01, 2025 07:36 AM (+4yJ5)
124No it isn't, and no it won't. ++++
Summarizes much of high tech.
125
first FWP of the day:
I hate it when the Norelco's battery dies halfway through shaving.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at December 01, 2025 07:41 AM (Cjt/F)
126
When I come to power, the operator - the responsible parties themselves, not an amorphous "department" or "corporation", and if such cannot be identified then it will be all personnel - of any website who's cookie consent manager does not include a prominent "Object/Reject All" button shall be knouted for six consecutive hours in a room of at least 85 degrees Fahrenheit, with the punishment repeating each week that the button is not present.
Posted by: Typos R Us at December 01, 2025 07:44 AM (XQo4F)
130
... If this isn't bubble behavior, then I don't know what is.
It reminds me of all the "Collateralized Debt Obligations" (CDOs) that caused the 2008 meltdown.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at December 01, 2025 07:34 AM (6ydKt)
++++
Somewhat, but not much. There is that kind of action, too, but it isn't significant yet.
What it *is*, however, is essentially identical to the vendor financing schemes of the last tech bubble. Those schemes caused the outright failure of Lucent Technologies, Nortel Networks and Sun Microsystems (though Sun had enough residual value to be appealing as a takeover target, and Oracle bought it).
Vendor financing in high tech is very dangerous, and the AI bubble manufacturers are wading in hip deep. It will not destroy the bigs like Nvidia, AMD and Broadcom, but it might take out some smaller players. It will leave smoking craters in the bigs' balance sheets, though.
Sunday Overnight Open Thread - November 30, 2025 [Doof]
The Sunday night ONT has arrived. Thanks for stopping by!
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I found this strangely satisfying to watch - at least 15 times in a row.
reminder that Costco sells over 6 million Pumpkin Pies a year in November and December, with a 1/3rd of those sales happening in the three days prior to Thanksgiving pic.twitter.com/7CVjxk1CFr
An indictment filed in a Texas federal court accuses Gavin Rivers Weisenburg, 21, and Tanner Christopher Thomas, 20, of planning to recruit an army of homeless people, buy a sailboat and seize power on Gonave Island, an island off the coast of Haiti with a population of about 87,000 residents. The two young men allegedly planned to recruit homeless people from Washington, D.C. to serve as their “mercenary force” during their grand coup d’etat.
According to court files, Weisenburg and Thomas had researched Gonave Island and concluded that it had a very weak government, almost no infrastructure, and had been crippled by poverty. They concluded that it could be taken over through a brutal invasion that would eliminate the local men and turn the women and children into slaves.
Check out the whole thing. Seriously. Video segment at the link.
Maybe one of you writers could tuen this into a movie or miniseries. C'mon - do it!
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'Ette Couture
The response to my fashion segment last week was less then whelming. My good friend and fellow Club ONT boss T Rex is taking over this week's segment. He has just one thing to offer, and honestly, I think he crushed it!
Thanks, Dino!!!
Just kidding -- Piper has returned this week!
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Melania Trump's Holiday Chic
As the holiday season sweeps in, First Lady Melania Trump turned heads with festive flair. From welcoming the White House Christmas tree to pardoning turkeys in true presidential tradition, Melania's wardrobe choices over the past week have perfectly captured the spirit of glamour.
Kicking off the week on a high note, Melania greeted the arrival of the official 2025 White House Christmas Tree—a towering evergreen from Korson's Tree Farms in Michigan—with an ensemble that was holiday without veering into kitsch. She opted for a floor-length Christian Dior Palto Coat in ecru
double-sided virgin wool and angora blend felt, cinched at the waist. The real magic? Her accessories. Forzieri cashmere lined Italian leather gloves in red added a pop of seasonal cheer, a rewear from 2018. Completing the look were Manolo Blahnik BB 105 Pux Heel in a subtle tartan plaid. The look was this southern girl’s dream- holiday elegance delivered with the soft confidence of someone raised on monograms and good manners.
Transitioning seamlessly from Christmas prep to Thanksgiving tradition, Melania joined President Trump for the annual turkey pardon ceremony, where Gobble and Waddle earned their tickets to a leisurely life at North Carolina State University. FLOTUS chose an Anine Bing Leon bomber jacket in dark brown, a Ralph Lauren Collection cashmere turtleneck also in dark brown, and a Ralph Lauren Collection Mychele wool herringbone skirt finished with Christian Louboutin So Kate 105 Pumps in brown.
On Thanksgiving at Mar-a-Lago, Melania wore a Michael Kors Collection Hansen Charmeuse shirt in black and a Dolce & Gabbana Lamé Lace midi skirt. It was bold, yes, but never loud. The metallic thread glinted just enough to remind you that grace and a little daring have always been welcome companions.
If there’s one thing Melania Trump taught us this week, it’s that holiday style doesn’t have to scream louder than your Aunt Linda after two glasses of champagne—it just has to whisper while winkin’ at the camera. So grab your own belted coat, find yourself a bold red accessory, and strut into December like you’re about to decorate a 20-foot tree before lunch. Because if Melania can do it in four-inch stilettos on the White House lawn, bless it, so can we.
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Thanks, Piper - great to have you back!
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Sending the month out
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6Tell me why baby why are you late for the ONT?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 10:12 PM (Y7TJ9)
The Disco posts when he's good and ready!
Posted by: Doof at November 30, 2025 10:14 PM (QMAsf)
7
I'm watching "Pretty Maids All In A Row", written by visionary horndog Gene Roddenberry, and there's an actress named Joy Bang.
JOY BANG.
The movie is ObjectificationPalooza. Directed by visionary horndog Roger Vadim.
It's so 70's.
There's a few Star Trek alums: James Doohan, William Campbell, costumer William Ware Theiss.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 30, 2025 10:16 PM (kpS4V)
SpaceX - Falcon 9 - Starlink 6-86 LC-39A - Kennedy Space Center - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: December 1, 2025
Launch Time: 2:44 a.m. EST (0744 UTC, 08:44 CET)
https://youtu.be/GU_QjtGn8b8
Posted by: Joyenz at November 30, 2025 10:16 PM (2F0/Y)
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Better late than never. Hope everyone is doing OK.
Baby it's cold outside!
Posted by: Case at November 30, 2025 10:17 PM (5Je/N)
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15 Apropos of this weekend, I'm thankful that Doof didn't (really) get to do the couture segment, and that Piper did.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (OT but harmless) at November 30, 2025 10:17 PM (v23vE)
Well thank you!
Posted by: Piper at November 30, 2025 10:19 PM (Wmg4n)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 30, 2025 10:20 PM (pkeXY)
18 That long pencil skirt must have a slit up the back to the knees. No one could ever sit or walk in it otherwise.
And good evening!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 30, 2025 10:20 PM (n7rxJ)
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16 Whatever became of Movember?
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 30, 2025 10:17 PM (u0r2I)
That is every day for me, and it’s really back to reality tomorrow with the return of the 6am. With that, may we all take a moment to stare at the plaid shoes and sigh?
Posted by: Piper at November 30, 2025 10:20 PM (Wmg4n)
The rain predicted for today never materialized, and it may not show up tomorrow either. Cool and cloudy it is, but not rainy. I suppose that's a good thing. We'll probably have some rain soon, though.
The Killer Kittenz From Outer Space are . . . well, I don't see them right now. Which means they are in the bedroom, more than likely sitting in the open but screened window, breathing in the night stench.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:20 PM (wzUl9)
21
Melania's filling out a bit. It looks good on her.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 10:21 PM (Y7TJ9)
22
So, these guys planned to recruit homeless people, huh?
Why did they think the homeless are homeless? What makes them think they would be good foot soldiers? What did they expect to offer them in return in order to keep them on side?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 30, 2025 10:21 PM (bss/y)
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Wow. When you get to the bottom of the post after reading and listening and I could have been number one.
Thank you for the ONT, Doof. Everyone ready to go back to work in the morning?
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 30, 2025 10:21 PM (mT+6a)
24Whatever became of Movember?
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 30, 2025 10:17 PM
The FBI busted the gang.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 30, 2025 10:21 PM (jc0TO)
25
I hope everyone here had a good year.
I am grateful for all I have.
Posted by: r hennigantx at November 30, 2025 10:21 PM (gbOdA)
26Doof, yes. I'm sure I can find a link.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 30, 2025 10:20 PM (u0r2I)
Tread carefully
Posted by: Doof at November 30, 2025 10:22 PM (QMAsf)
27What did they expect to offer them in return in order to keep them on side?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 30, 2025 10:21 PM
Sex slaves, duh.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 30, 2025 10:22 PM (jc0TO)
28
As for the air shorts, I have questions. Gets rid of body moisture? What does that even mean? And 1 size fits all? I am thinking probably not.
Posted by: Piper at November 30, 2025 10:22 PM (Wmg4n)
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I said it was a cunning plan. I didn't say it was a good one.
Posted by: Probably Baldrick at November 30, 2025 10:23 PM (P/woT)
Dobie Gillis' friend, whose name I cannot remember.
Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at November 30, 2025 10:24 PM (47diA)
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> I started decorating my Christmas tree today. Actually looks perfect after just 1 ornament.
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My wife bought the White House Christmas decorations for the 4 years of Trump's first admin.
Now... we're on #2.
There's a small, artificial tree, not specifically Christmas tree, but she has proclaimed it to be our "Trump Tree."
White House ornaments and gold trim.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 30, 2025 10:24 PM (NwnyJ)
38 may we all take a moment to stare at the plaid shoes and sigh?
Posted by: Piper
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There's never a scuff, a pill, or a single frayed thread on any of Melania's clothes. She must wear them 3 times max, or have them hand-washed. The soles of her shoes always look like it's the first time they've met the ground. It's amazing.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 30, 2025 10:24 PM (n7rxJ)
44 And 1 size fits all? I am thinking probably not.
Posted by: Piper
There weren't as many fat folks back then.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 30, 2025 10:25 PM (pkeXY)
45
AOP, whaddya think that mechanical device really is? Outside my experience.
Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at November 30, 2025 10:25 PM (47diA)
46
42 Any film of that Haiti plot has got to have the pair from Dumb and Dumber as the leads.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 10:24 PM (3U2FH)
They are both about 40 years too old at this point, I should think.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 30, 2025 10:25 PM (bss/y)
48
What’s the pink think on the bottom right? In the 80s image?
Posted by: banana Dream at November 30, 2025 10:25 PM (3uBP9)
49
As for the air shorts, I have questions. Gets rid of body moisture? What does that even mean? And 1 size fits all? I am thinking probably not.
Posted by: Piper
Perhaps even more idiotic than those 'Slenderama' vibrating belt machines back in the day. Why did anyone think those things were going to get rid of your fat?
Posted by: Tonypete at November 30, 2025 10:26 PM (cYBz/)
50
Dobie Gillis' friend, whose name I cannot remember.
Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at November 30, 2025 10:24 PM (47diA)
Dammit. I hate the way my memory works. Gilligan.
Krebs? Maynard G?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 30, 2025 10:26 PM (bss/y)
51 I can't wait to see Melania's Christmas decor. I bet the edible treats are to die for.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 30, 2025 10:26 PM (n7rxJ)
52
I was an adult in the '80s, yet I don't recognize a couple of those devices in the picture. Boom box, Etch-a Sketch, rotary phone, Walkman with headphones, Rubik's Cube, Betamax tape, cassette tape, dictaphone. But what is the pink sloping thing apparently connected by cord to the device with the two red buttons, which is also connected to something that looks like a Rolodex? A gaming console of some kind?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:26 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 30, 2025 10:28 PM (uQesX)
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As for the air shorts, I have questions. Gets rid of body moisture? What does that even mean? And 1 size fits all? I am thinking probably not.
Posted by: Piper
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[imagines TV ad]
"Thousands of four-star reviews!"
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 30, 2025 10:28 PM (XeU6L)
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Big Mike just released an entire coffee table book about her transcendent taste in fashion. And yet the fashion post contains not a single photo of this most elegant creature of our times.
So what gives?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 30, 2025 10:28 PM (0RiMX)
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57 As for the air shorts, I have questions. Gets rid of body moisture? What does that even mean? And 1 size fits all? I am thinking probably not.
Posted by: Piper
Perhaps even more idiotic than those 'Slenderama' vibrating belt machines back in the day. Why did anyone think those things were going to get rid of your fat?
Posted by: Tonypete at November 30, 2025 10:26 PM (cYBz/)
You'd think those things would chafe like a bitch.
I would not want to rub a balloon with my balls to find out what that felt like.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 30, 2025 10:28 PM (bss/y)
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at November 30, 2025 10:29 PM (sAmhv)
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Enjoyed the Zach Bryan tune- hadn't heard that one yet
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at November 30, 2025 10:29 PM (kOluj)
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Perhaps even more idiotic than those 'Slenderama' vibrating belt machines back in the day. Why did anyone think those things were going to get rid of your fat?
Posted by: Tonypete at November 30, 2025 10:26 PM (cYBz/)
Because the shook you, Tonypete. Like a Polaroid picture.
Posted by: Piper at November 30, 2025 10:29 PM (Wmg4n)
68
You could combine that fart trap from a few ONTs ago with the inflatable shorts.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 30, 2025 10:29 PM (3uBP9)
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40 That guy isn't hanging drywall; he's hanging gypsumboard lath, which will later be covered with a coat of plaster.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
With generous dollop of asbestos, the fireproof Modern Marvel.
Posted by: Binds, Too at November 30, 2025 10:29 PM (oftw2)
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I picture a homeless army as occupying the zone between Stripes and Dawn of the Dead.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 30, 2025 10:29 PM (0RiMX)
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I made my own! Just the right size and very tasty, but I can't crimp a crust to save my life.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 30, 2025 10:28 PM (n7rxJ)
You are still much handier than I am in the kitchen.
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Okay; the cats are back out here. Stirling is sitting on the arm of the sofa next to me. Dagny is sprawled on the floor near the dinette table. It amazes me how cats can apparently be comfortable in positions that would make most humans freeze up or tear something.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:29 PM (wzUl9)
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AOP, whaddya think that mechanical device really is? Outside my experience.
Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at November 30, 2025 10:25 PM (47diA)
Looks like some sort of planetary drive unit, with a sprag clutch in it? Does not look automotive at all. Maybe for a tractor?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 10:30 PM (npFr7)
74
I bought a pair of Tecovas boots today. I'm going to exchange them tomorrow for the same boot in a wide calf size. I have fat calves and didn't know it was an option until I got home. It was very busy at the store, there was a waiting line to get in busy.
75
I made my own! Just the right size and very tasty, but I can't crimp a crust to save my life.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 30, 2025 10:28 PM (n7rxJ)
I did it where it didn’t look like a pack of rabid 3 year olds helped for the first time ever this year! I am afraid I will never have a repeat performance.
Posted by: Piper at November 30, 2025 10:31 PM (Wmg4n)
76
Beaver Cleaver and Violet Rutherford walked downtown to watch the lady in the store window demonstrating the "jiggle belt".
Posted by: Then The Malt Shoppe at November 30, 2025 10:31 PM (oftw2)
77
>>>You don't know what you have until it's gone!
Sounds like something Joni Mitchell would say.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at November 30, 2025 10:32 PM (syz1S)
78Dobie Gillis' friend, whose name I cannot remember.
Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at November 30, 2025
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Maynard G. Krebs, played by Bob Denver.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025
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Tuesday Weld and Warren Beatty were on the show occasionally too. They had satirical names I can't recall without looking them up.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:32 PM (wzUl9)
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78 I picture a homeless army as occupying the zone between Stripes and Dawn of the Dead.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 30, 2025 10:29 PM (0RiMX)
Probably less motivated than zombies. Especially since the most likely lure these geniuses could use would be drugs... so:
83
Today was our first truly cold day here. It spit snow last night, it barely got above freezing, and the wind blew all day.
Normally this weather starts around Halloween, so I am thankful we got a month's reprieve.
I spent all day in the computer room, sitting in front of the space heater and glad I had no pressing business to attend to outside.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 30, 2025 10:33 PM (P/woT)
84
First, they need to take over Gonave island's transit system, starting with homeless powered rickshaws... then a massive transportation strike! - Newman and the K-Man
Posted by: Rex B at November 30, 2025 10:34 PM (r6f6k)
85Good evening Horde. Thanks Disco (and Piper)!
Posted by: TRex - interim fashion consultant dino at November 30, 2025 10:25 PM (IQ6Gq)
Since you and I have now each handled the fashion segment, I think Piper should be responsible for the Wed and Thurs ONTs this week. Agree? Or at least give us a night off from our Club ONT duties and let us just be patrons for a night.
Posted by: Doof at November 30, 2025 10:34 PM (QMAsf)
86
Beaver Cleaver and Violet Rutherford walked downtown to watch the lady in the store window demonstrating the "jiggle belt".
Posted by: Then The Malt Shoppe at November 30, 2025 10:31 PM (oftw2)
Sam's Saloon in Rowley, Alberta has one of those jiggle-belt machines set up on a post near the bar. The bar is like a museum, with all kinds of old junk on the walls and ceiling, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 10:34 PM (npFr7)
87I bought a pair of Tecovas boots today. I'm going to exchange them tomorrow for the same boot in a wide calf size. I have fat calves and didn't know it was an option until I got home. It was very busy at the store, there was a waiting line to get in busy.
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at November 30, 2025
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I'm planning to drive up to the one about eighty miles from me, maybe this week. It's hard to find a round toe boot at Cavender's and Boot Barn here; eight out of ten models seem to be the "wide square" toe, which I dislike.
What color and style are yours?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:34 PM (wzUl9)
88 I am afraid I will never have a repeat performance.
Posted by: Piper
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I hate the way that happens. And don't get me started on icing a layer cake.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 30, 2025 10:34 PM (n7rxJ)
89
I think the ai that made the 80s stuff got a little confused
Posted by: banana Dream at November 30, 2025 10:34 PM (3uBP9)
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I bought a pair of Tecovas boots today. I'm going to exchange them tomorrow for the same boot in a wide calf size.
Posted by: lin-duh is offended
I love my pair. I had to buy zipper ropers as my instep is high as hell.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 30, 2025 10:35 PM (cYBz/)
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I liked the mobile ghetto blasters where the owners strapped on roller disco skates and shared their earth-shattering kaboombox favorites with the neighborhood.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 30, 2025 10:35 PM (kpS4V)
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; eight out of ten models seem to be the "wide square" toe, which I dislike.
What color and style are yours?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:34 PM (wzUl9)
That is because that is the in toe style right now, pointy ones are considered dated. Just hang tight, it will circle back around.
Posted by: Piper at November 30, 2025 10:37 PM (Wmg4n)
97
Maduro is a scumbag who needs to be ended but I don't know how I feel about us doing it. I'd rather see us wipe out Antifa than Maduro.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 30, 2025 10:36 PM (3nLb4)
Maduro and Antifa are connected, somehow.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 10:38 PM (npFr7)
98
Maybe the pink thing is a TrapperKeeper which is kinda 80s.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 30, 2025 10:38 PM (3uBP9)
99
Maduro is a scumbag who needs to be ended but I don't know how I feel about us doing it. I'd rather see us wipe out Antifa than Maduro.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 30, 2025 10:36 PM (3nLb4)
Ok, what after Maduro? Rubble not trouble. This is my point.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 30, 2025 10:39 PM (bss/y)
100
Speaking of deja voo, I seem to recall that the drywall guy and the Michelin man shorts have been featured on this blog before.
I suppose like a good meme or old joke, there's always someone out there who has never seen it before. Young'ns. Whatcha gon' do?
101
That is because that is the in toe style right now, pointy ones are considered dated.
Which caused me to shift to Justin work boots with rounded toes. Get off my lawn!
Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at November 30, 2025 10:39 PM (47diA)
102I think the ai that made the 80s stuff got a little confused
Posted by: banana Dream at November 30, 2025 10:34 PM (3uBP9)
Agree. The pink thing looks like a misshapen Trapper Keeper. Phone looks wonky. Atari console is missing some slider switches. The NES (Nintendo) looks pretty good though.
Posted by: Doof at November 30, 2025 10:39 PM (QMAsf)
103
The phone does look odd. There is a large square block protruding from what would normally be the handset cradle, and the handset is settled behind it. Plus the phone has a cord running away from it that doesn't seem to be connected to anything.
Maybe this was an AI image after all.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:39 PM (wzUl9)
104
Qpsteve,
The boot itself isn't wide, just the calf is wide.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 30, 2025 10:39 PM (XQo4F)
106 Beaver Cleaver and Violet Rutherford walked downtown to watch the lady in the store window demonstrating the "jiggle belt".
Posted by: Then The Malt Shoppe
She charged the drinks to her pop.
They she chewed the black gum.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 30, 2025 10:39 PM (pkeXY)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 30, 2025 10:39 PM (0RiMX)
108
Since you and I have now each handled the fashion segment, I think Piper should be responsible for the Wed and Thurs ONTs this week. Agree? Or at least give us a night off from our Club ONT duties and let us just be patrons for a night.
Posted by: Doof at November 30, 2025 10:34 PM (QMAsf
Wed is right out, I have both night classes. Unless you want the content to be the choreo for the night, one of my banger playlists you love so much for the music section, and pointers on what muscles to target, of course. Then I am all in!
Posted by: Piper at November 30, 2025 10:40 PM (Wmg4n)
109
Maduro is a scumbag who needs to be ended but I don't know how I feel about us doing it. I'd rather see us wipe out Antifa than Maduro.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 30, 2025 10:36 PM (3nLb4)
Does Antifa have oilfields sitting idle, just ripe for the plucking? I think not. Good day to you, sir!
I said good day!
Posted by: Zombie Dick Cheney at November 30, 2025 10:41 PM (P/woT)
Why do the clothes look different when Melania inside them?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 30, 2025 10:41 PM (BW4I7)
111
66 Two Geniuses Planned to Raise Homeless Army and Take Over an Exotic Island
Was that wrong? I see it as win-win several ways.
Posted by: mindful webworker
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Sort of a Florida Man version of 'The Man Who Would Be King'
by Rudyard Kipling.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at November 30, 2025 10:41 PM (sAmhv)
112
Remember the big theft of wine a few months ago?
That was those two guys raising a homeless army. That's how they planned to pay the troops.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025 10:41 PM (KDPiq)
Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at November 30, 2025 10:41 PM (47diA)
114
The phone does look odd. There is a large square block protruding from what would normally be the handset cradle, and the handset is settled behind it. Plus the phone has a cord running away from it that doesn't seem to be connected to anything.
Maybe this was an AI image after all.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:39 PM (wzUl9)
You could get a shoulder rest to attach to the handset, but the lump does not look like that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 10:41 PM (npFr7)
1154 Wolfus Aurelius,
I got the Annie in brown goat skin.
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at November 30, 2025
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Nice! Is the goat soft, or do you think it will need some breaking in?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:41 PM (wzUl9)
116
I see Melania's shoes and my feet and knees just can't even...
120
Ah yes. The 50s or 40s drywaller. Union guy all the way. Straight D ticket in every election. Would never vote for those Rs. They were only for the rich and the corporations, not the little people.
He's the man who brought you today.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 30, 2025 10:43 PM (uQesX)
121
Nice! Is the goat soft, or do you think it will need some breaking in?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:41 PM (wzUl9)
I'm your huckleberry.
Posted by: Mohammed A. Mohammed at November 30, 2025 10:43 PM (npFr7)
Posted by: Adriane the Not Enough Christmas Lights, the Planes Be Not Yet Circling the House Critic . . . at November 30, 2025 10:44 PM (3ZUWJ)
123 You could get a shoulder rest to attach to the handset, but the lump does not look like that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
I've seen a lot of phones but not one like that.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 30, 2025 10:45 PM (pkeXY)
124
I have one of those drywall hammers. I used it for some years then switched over to a drywall screw gun when they got popular that has a depth adjustment to set the screws at the right depth. Not quite as fast as nails, but better installation in the long run. BTW, I'm not sure that dude in the film is hanging drywall as we know it. Its probably what they called rock lath, its a base for plaster that replaced the older wood lath which took forever to install. The 2x4 size panels is kind of a giveaway. I ran across it a lot in the older homes. The first version had a series of 3/4" holes (approx) drilled into it to grab the undercoat of plaster, basically the "grey" rougher plaster found under the smoother white plaster top coat.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 10:45 PM (snZF9)
125
Venezuela has crappy sulfur oil.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025 10:42 PM (KDPiq)
High-sulfur oil is still oil, and Texas has refineries that are tuned for it. And sulfur itself is a marketable commodity.
Posted by: Mohammed A. Mohammed at November 30, 2025 10:45 PM (npFr7)
126
This sounds like an awesome plan. Kinda would have liked to see how it would have turned out.
Two Geniuses Planned to Raise Homeless Army and Take Over an Exotic Island
Hey! Watch it. That's our turf busters.
Posted by: CIA at November 30, 2025 10:46 PM (uQesX)
127
The best thing about Leave It To Beaver was watching Miss Landers. I never had teachers that looked like that.
Posted by: Case at November 30, 2025 10:46 PM (5Je/N)
128
Wolfus,
The goat is definitely softer than the calf skin. Not sure about durability wise but I won't be wearing them every day so that's ok.
129
I have a Whitehouse Christmas Card from Donald and Melania Trump. It has their signatures. Okay, the signatures might be by autopen. It was sent to me after I donated to his 2016 election. It's not like I know them personally, and hang out in Palm Beach.
Posted by: nerdygirl at November 30, 2025 10:46 PM (0Htd1)
130
I think the Etch-A-Sketch was around well before the 1980s.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025 10:46 PM (0CU3H)
131
Dan Post boots and Cody James models still offer the rounded toe, and you can get that style in Tecovas models, so it isn't gone completely. To me the wide square toe looks like a duck's foot -- hardly the image of a tough American cowboy.
I'm thinking I'll get a pair of the regular cowboy boots in a caramel color -- no exotic leather, just cowhide or goat. Distressed would be fine. If I get a black pair, a satin finish would be my preference.
My current Dan Posts are a black cherry color, and look sharp with jeans or with brown casual slacks.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:46 PM (wzUl9)
132
Venezuela has crappy sulfur oil.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025 10:42 PM (KDPiq)
For that brimstone odor, which oddly enough I'm beginning to like.
I wonder if The Boss needs a new executive vice-president to stand behind The Throne of Skulls?
Posted by: Zombie Dick Cheney at November 30, 2025 10:46 PM (P/woT)
133
108 Maybe the pink thing is a TrapperKeeper which is kinda 80s.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 30, 2025 10:38 PM (3uBP9)
I thought so at first, but the flaps are too long.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 30, 2025 10:47 PM (bss/y)
134 I think the Etch-A-Sketch was around well before the 1980s.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025
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So was the cassette tape.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:47 PM (wzUl9)
135
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 10:45 PM (snZF9)
The wood lathe is a pain in the ass if you're remodeling.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025 10:47 PM (KDPiq)
136Nice! Is the goat soft, or do you think it will need some breaking in?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:41 PM (wzUl9)
I'm your huckleberry.
Posted by: Mohammed A. Mohammed at November 30, 2025 10:43 PM (npFr7)
I can't stop laughing!!
Posted by: Doof at November 30, 2025 10:47 PM (QMAsf)
137
I am off to bed. And in case you are making a list, I wear a 37.5 in Manolo Blahniks. 🙂
Posted by: Piper at November 30, 2025 10:47 PM (Wmg4n)
The Etch A Sketch was introduced near the peak of the Baby Boom on July 12, 1960 for $2.99 (equivalent to $32 in 2024)
wickedpedia
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 30, 2025 10:47 PM (pkeXY)
139
AOP + Berserker = same/same. I agree with each of you.
Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at November 30, 2025 10:47 PM (47diA)
140
and there's something odd about that dial telephone.
Hey!
Somebody with a nic like mine made fourth on the sockpuppet wall of shame. I'd like to thank Pixy, HP, the cobs, and of course Elon Musk for an occasionally-persistent IP.
141
She opted for a floor-length Christian Dior Palto Coat in ecru double-sided virgin wool and angora blend felt, cinched at the waist.
Posted by: CIA at November 30, 2025 10:48 PM (uQesX)
142
She opted for a floor-length Christian Dior Palto Coat in ecru double-sided virgin wool and angora blend felt, cinched at the waist.
Double sided virgin wool??
Does that mean the ewe doesn't allow rear entry either?
Posted by: Don Lemmon at November 30, 2025 10:49 PM (uQesX)
143
150 Nice! Is the goat soft, or do you think it will need some breaking in?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:41 PM (wzUl9)
I'm your huckleberry.
Posted by: Mohammed A. Mohammed at November 30, 2025 10:43 PM (npFr7)
I can't stop laughing!!
Posted by: Doof at November 30, 2025 10:47 PM (QMAsf)
Same! This one has to make some weekly list later on.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025 10:50 PM (0CU3H)
Posted by: the Wretched Panhard at November 30, 2025 10:50 PM (N7hqt)
145
I think I know what the problem is. That is not a drawing done by a human. The weird artifacts are made by an AI who was asked to display items from the 80s. The cord on the Nintendo, the weird thing on the old phone. The trapper keeper. Etc.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 30, 2025 10:50 PM (bss/y)
1.) Hold an umbrella for Obama while you get rained on in your full dress uniform
2.) Put out your arm to escort Melania
Lefties would pick option 1, Righties would pick option 2.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 30, 2025 10:51 PM (HlyYF)
147
If Wikipedia is correct Wichita Kansas was the test market for the TrapperKeeper in 1978. A lot of things got test marketed in Wichita. PepsiCo tested a good amount of things there for pizza and generally fast food. I guess it was seen as a good indicator of national sentiment back then.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 30, 2025 10:51 PM (3uBP9)
148
>Nice! Is the goat soft, or do you think it will need some breaking in?
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what are we talking about here
Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 10:52 PM (3Zr+X)
149
Little-known fact: Sanyo made a cassette format that was almost]/i] like a Compact Cassette, but with the holes for the capstan and the locating pins spaced differently. I got one of those machines quite cheap, and was able to relocate the pins to allow to use compact cassettes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 10:52 PM (npFr7)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 10:52 PM (npFr7)
151
Love the 80s, hahaha! Melania always looks so classy, but I especially like that Dolce & Gabbana Lamé Lace midi... perfect holiday dinner party attire.
Thanks Doof and Piper!
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 10:53 PM (rdVOm)
152
Continuing my complete geeking out, picked up a three pack of touch displays that have integrated ESP32 dev boards, set up a little webserver on it to serve some system pages and a news crawl to test.
The sky's the limit with these things
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 30, 2025 10:53 PM (XV/Pl)
153
Are we sure that's a trapper keeper? Is that what the writing on it says?
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025 10:53 PM (KDPiq)
Were originally called Compact Cassettes. That name later lent itself to the compact disc in 1982.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 30, 2025
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My oldest friend had an early "large format" cassette machine. It sat up high like a radio set, and the cassette itself was huge -- to contain two of the very small reel-to-reel tapes. The thing had a terrible microphone. He used it to record episodes of Trek, just the sound of course, and the playback wasn't very good. Still, it was an interesting device. When the small ones appeared in my stores, and you could play them in your car (instead of those awkward 8-Tracks), I always thought of their ancestor.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:54 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 10:54 PM (3Zr+X)
156 I think I know what the problem is. That is not a drawing done by a human. The weird artifacts are made by an AI who was asked to display items from the 80s. The cord on the Nintendo, the weird thing on the old phone. The trapper keeper. Etc.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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The label on the cassette tape.
Best OE ‘80s
???
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 30, 2025 10:54 PM (n7rxJ)
158Same! This one has to make some weekly list later on.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025 10:50 PM (0CU3H)
The 3 D's have made note of your recommendation
Posted by: Doof at November 30, 2025 10:54 PM (QMAsf)
159
I'm outta here. I'd like to feel like 29 x 2 when I wake up in the AM. You morons are pretty funny. Thanks.
Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at November 30, 2025 10:54 PM (47diA)
160
163 >Nice! Is the goat soft, or do you think it will need some breaking in?
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what are we talking about here
Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 10:52 PM (3Zr+X)
Heh.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 30, 2025 10:54 PM (bss/y)
161
The best thing about Leave It To Beaver was watching Miss Landers. I never had teachers that looked like that.
Posted by: Case
I did - 3rd grade teacher Mrs. Katzmann. She had a powder blue 60 Plymouth Fury convertible. She'd take me and my buddy Keith out for ice cream after school. We were too young to know exactly what she had but we knew we were interested in it.
Hubba hubba. If a teacher did that today she'd go to jail.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 30, 2025 10:54 PM (cYBz/)
162
The wood lathe is a pain in the ass if you're remodeling.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025 10:47 PM (KDPiq)
That shit was the bane of my existence when working in the old houses. On the other hand we used to save a lot of it because the rough cut 2X4s used back then would be all different levels when you put a straight edge across them, so we used the wood lath to pack out the shallow 2x4s so the walls would be straight for sheetrock and not have any dips or waves. The wood lath varied in thickness, so it was good. You only needed to find the right thickness for whatever 2x4 you were dealing with. Basically, a puzzle of great agony. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 10:55 PM (snZF9)
163Nice! Is the goat soft, or do you think it will need some breaking in?
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what are we talking about here
Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025
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Goatskin *leather*, I meant, not the actual ruminant.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:56 PM (wzUl9)
164
Goatskin *leather*, I meant, not the actual ruminant.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:56 PM (wzUl9)
Sure, Wolfus.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 30, 2025 10:57 PM (bss/y)
170
My oldest friend had an early "large format" cassette machine. It sat up high like a radio set, and the cassette itself was huge -- to contain two of the very small reel-to-reel tapes. The thing had a terrible microphone. He used it to record episodes of Trek, just the sound of course, and the playback wasn't very good. Still, it was an interesting device. When the small ones appeared in my stores, and you could play them in your car (instead of those awkward 8-Tracks), I always thought of their ancestor.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:54 PM (wzUl9)
There were "cart" (cartridge) machines used in radio stations for playing commercials and station breaks. Larger format than VHS tapes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 10:58 PM (npFr7)
171
Goatskin *leather*, I meant, not the actual ruminant.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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Heh! Now I'll never look at my boots the same way!
172
How about 1980s cars and the T-tops? A buddy had an '86 Camaro.
Posted by: Rex B at November 30, 2025 10:59 PM (r6f6k)
173 The homeless would be unreliable soldiers. They might get into an argument with a tree, delaying their mission. Or clean the windshield of a jeep and demand payment. Or not respect the chain of command, e.g. hit them with a chair when they're not looking.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 30, 2025 10:59 PM (iTNuP)
174
I did have a pair of chocolate-colored goatskin cowboy boots -- picked up at a store closing sale in Denver in 1997. I wore them for many years and had them resoled as necessary, until the shoe repair shop said they could no longer resole them; it would take up too much of the upper leather and make the boots too small. I'd never heard that before.
Hated to see those boots go.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 11:00 PM (wzUl9)
175There were "cart" (cartridge) machines used in radio stations for playing commercials and station breaks. Larger format than VHS tapes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025
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Right; I used carts all the time in radio in the '70s and even into the '90s.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 11:01 PM (wzUl9)
176
Well, started getting ready for the tree today. Had to move furniture and change the layout of the room. All in preparation of the berserker christmas party of the immortals. I got 2 weeks to get everything done. Sucks to be me.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 11:01 PM (snZF9)
177
My 40s house had narrow wood slats with plaster over it. And my bathroom was a raised floor with concrete poured between the wood frames. And the electric was in paper sheathed metal conduits. And the plumbing…. AAAAGH THE NIGHTMARES ARE COMING BACK!!
Posted by: banana Dream at November 30, 2025 11:02 PM (3uBP9)
178
Arnold is dead, Jack is 86 , Player is 90 and Watson is 76.
Time flies .
Posted by: the way I see it
The Knight's of Columbus 4th Degree motto is:
Tempus fugit, Memento mori
"Time flies, Remember you must die"
Nobody does death like Catholics.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 30, 2025 11:02 PM (cYBz/)
179
I had a pair of ostrich boots that I took with me when I moved to NYC. If I had ever seen Midnight Cowboy I probably would have left them in Louisiana.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025 11:03 PM (KDPiq)
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2025 11:04 PM (dnZHb)
181
Got to work out tomorrow morning, all, so I'm off to bed. Play nice and don't get caught!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 11:06 PM (wzUl9)
182
Why would anyone want to use DC zombies to conquer an island already full of zombies?
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2025 11:06 PM (dnZHb)
183
My 40s house had narrow wood slats with plaster over it. And my bathroom was a raised floor with concrete poured between the wood frames. And the electric was in paper sheathed metal conduits. And the plumbing…. AAAAGH THE NIGHTMARES ARE COMING BACK!!
Posted by: banana Dream at November 30, 2025 11:02 PM (3uBP9)
Coming back?? That was my daily hell doing kitchens and baths in those old houses. Those bathroom floors were a riot. I love how they carved the top of the floor joists in the bathrooms into those little peaks as some kind of retarded way to retain the concrete.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 11:07 PM (snZF9)
184
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 11:01 PM (snZF9)
I just did a marathon watching of Rock documentaries. You must have been an exception to the rule.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025 11:08 PM (KDPiq)
185
I know Vanessa Neuman who is the go to on anything Venezuela on Fox. She is quoted all over the story above.
Jaw dropping sexy woman - was a LT girlfriend of Mick Jagger in the 80's
Posted by: Bob Crane at November 30, 2025 11:08 PM (OERWa)
186
This is one of the best things I have ever seen.
https://tinyurl.com/73y3ubt6
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 11:08 PM (Y7TJ9)
187
I think I know what the problem is. That is not a drawing done by a human. The weird artifacts are made by an AI who was asked to display items from the 80s. The cord on the Nintendo, the weird thing on the old phone. The trapper keeper. Etc.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
I think AI turned the earpiece 90 degrees on the phone's handset. And the cradle is missing the two springed actuators that would complete/interrupt the circuit to answer/hang up the call. Fail...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 30, 2025 11:09 PM (nbLIj)
Enjoying my night off, I am.. finished the pumpkin pie, ate my other cheeburger.. life is good!
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 11:10 PM (rdVOm)
189
The carts we used in the early 80's looked almost exactly like 8 track tapes with a transparent window on top and if I recall correctly, a metal base. you could have five different versions of a commercial on one cart, just stuff it in the machine, hit the button, it played the next commercial and stopped ready-to-go for the next one. Radio was fun, but I never made much money.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at November 30, 2025 11:10 PM (vd6bO)
190
I just did a marathon watching of Rock documentaries. You must have been an exception to the rule.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025 11:08 PM (KDPiq)
Explain?
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 11:11 PM (snZF9)
191
But no one ever made a time machine out of a 1980s Camaro.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2025 11:11 PM (dnZHb)
192
Gonna take over one of them there islands where when you land on the beach with a gun people beg to be shot.
And all you gotta do with homeless is get them sober. A week at sea should do that. Add more lash and sodomy to take the edge off.
Posted by: Reforger at November 30, 2025 11:11 PM (03GBw)
193
You Don’t Know What You’ve Got (Until You Lose It) - Ral Donner 1961
https://youtu.be/EGRAMPA-5hs
What You Got (Remastered 2010)
John Lennon 1974
https://youtu.be/mC7JHVF1tsQ
Posted by: Bulg at November 30, 2025 11:12 PM (77rzZ)
195
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 11:11 PM (snZF9)
You seem to have your shit together . Are there any bands that weren't dysfunctional?
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025 11:13 PM (KDPiq)
196
>>> I love how they carved the top of the floor joists in the bathrooms into those little peaks as some kind of retarded way to retain the concrete.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 11:07 PM (snZF9)
It was all a mess. And the house had been owned by the kind of people that thought they were good at DIY reno and should have really hired a pro.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 30, 2025 11:13 PM (3uBP9)
197
101 Looks like war is on the table with Venezuela.
Maduro is a scumbag who needs to be ended but I don't know how I feel about us doing it. I'd rather see us wipe out Antifa than Maduro.
Posted by: Oddbob
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Retweeted by Lara Logan@laralogan . 23h & Mike Flynn . 5hr
The CIA is still trying to control it - by pushing their assets/allies forward to replace Maduro
@GhostEzraQ . Nov 29
This isn’t just about Maduro. This is the final nail in the coffin for the CIA-black-budget narco pipeline that’s been running since the 80s.
Sinaloa, CJNG, Tren de Aragua they’re all tentacles of the SAME beast that’s been protected by rogue elements inside Langley and the Pentagon for decades.
Who do you think really armed the Venezuelan “gangs” that flooded swing states right before the election? Who flew the untraceable Gulfstreams full of product and kids out of Maturín and Maiquetía while Biden looked the other way?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 11:14 PM (Y7TJ9)
198
I'm not guessing what's in the future. I'm not Nostradamus, but more of Nostrapotamus. Many of my prognostications are less insightful than a pile of dung.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 30, 2025 11:14 PM (S/Y4j)
199
This is one of the best things I have ever seen.
https://tinyurl.com/73y3ubt6
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 11:08 PM (Y7TJ9)
LOL! Only thing better would be a 1911.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 11:14 PM (npFr7)
200
Another reason why Hollywood is a dead zombie unaware they are dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1_2JehaKOw
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2025 11:15 PM (dnZHb)
201
Honestly the thing I most miss from the 80s is the somewhat sane pop culture.
No trannies
No jihadis
Hell, no Big Gay
Posted by: Pete Bootyjuice at November 30, 2025 11:15 PM (sKqQm)
When my parents got their first push-button phone, it made the tones but the system was "pulse" so you still have to wait for the click-click-clicking to finish after you pushed all the buttons. (ca. mid-1970s)
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 11:16 PM (rdVOm)
203
I think I know what the problem is. That is not a drawing done by a human. The weird artifacts are made by an AI who was asked to display items from the 80s. The cord on the Nintendo, the weird thing on the old phone. The trapper keeper. Etc.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
How did it miss the Colgate Pump?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 30, 2025 11:16 PM (Z5/Ih)
204
The next time sen. mark kelly is asked what illegal order? Killing to boat survivors on a life raft is illegal order and war crime.
Posted by: raimondo at November 30, 2025 11:16 PM (XX7ZU)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 30, 2025 11:18 PM (0RiMX)
206
138 I have one of those drywall hammers. I used it for some years
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I have one. i
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 11:18 PM (Y7TJ9)
207
215 Don, radio never paid much because it was a job EVERYBODY wanted to do. Same problem in Hollywood. They barely have to pay new writers for scripts.
_-_
Yeah, I kinda fell backward into it. Living near a small town, looking tor work in the early 80's (oil boom gone bust), ran out of gas near a radio station and thought, what the hell, haven't tried that yet. They had me read some news copy on tape, then called and offered a weekend slot the next day.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at November 30, 2025 11:18 PM (vd6bO)
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2025 11:19 PM (dnZHb)
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It's not a war, dodo. It's anti-piracy action. Pirates have no rights at all. You just kill them. Same as roaches and Communists.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 11:20 PM (npFr7)
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When did raimondo become an expert on the USCMJ?
Internet lawyers.
*snort*
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 30, 2025 11:20 PM (0RiMX)
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>>> Jaw dropping sexy woman - was a LT girlfriend of Mick Jagger in the 80's
Posted by: Bob Crane at November 30, 2025 11:08 PM (OERWa)
Who does the Lieutenant Girlfriend report to?
Posted by: banana Dream at November 30, 2025 11:20 PM (3uBP9)
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Qdpsteve-- yes, there was a switch on the bottom for "tone" or "pulse"-- either way, you'd still hear the tones when you pushed the buttons.
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 11:20 PM (rdVOm)
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Who does the Lieutenant Girlfriend report to?
Posted by: banana Dream at November 30, 2025 11:20 PM (3uBP9)
The Captain's Mast?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 11:22 PM (npFr7)
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Armed combatants in no recognized uniform are partisans/spies subject to summary execution in the field.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2025 11:23 PM (dnZHb)
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We had the good pleasure of a party-line....only us and our closest neighbor, though, so not as bad as some...
Posted by: Don in SoCo at November 30, 2025 11:23 PM (vd6bO)
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The carts we used in the early 80's looked almost exactly like 8 track tapes with a transparent window on top and if I recall correctly, a metal base. you could have five different versions of a commercial on one cart, just stuff it in the machine, hit the button, it played the next commercial and stopped ready-to-go for the next one. Radio was fun, but I never made much money.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at November 30, 2025 11:10 PM (vd6bO)
I worked at an FM Muzak station in the early 80's and would load a handful of those carts into a carousal. Reel-reel machines had the "music" programs. There was a (silent) tone at 15 minute intervals that would stop the reel and that kicked off the first cart. Tone at the end of that cart kicked off the next, and so on, until the last one played. That tone would restart the music reel. I'd load the carousel with the next block of commercials while the music ran. It wasn't as glamorous as it sounds...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 30, 2025 11:24 PM (nbLIj)
Posted by: no one at November 30, 2025 11:24 PM (d6BF2)
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241 Armed combatants in no recognized uniform are partisans/spies subject to summary execution in the field.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2025 11:23 PM (dnZHb)
Another quibble: arent we doing these boats in international waters?
Plus, I have yet to hear evidence? Video? Photo?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 30, 2025 11:24 PM (bss/y)
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244 "I never had teachers that looked like that."
I had one. 3rd grade. Just out of college.
Miss Qualiato.
She was a tomato.
Posted by: no one at November 30, 2025 11:24 PM (d6BF2)
Ms Palko. 7th grade. Social studies.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 30, 2025 11:25 PM (bss/y)
222
Maduro is not the lawful president of Venezuela.
That said, there are a lot of tyrants in the world and it is not America's job to unseat them. Suppose some Cubans decide Trump is not a proper Communist so unfit to rule over us.
Posted by: gKWVE at November 30, 2025 11:25 PM (8zJKU)
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Another quibble: arent we doing these boats in international waters?
Plus, I have yet to hear evidence? Video? Photo?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 30, 2025 11:24 PM (bss/y)
Our lies are evidence!!!
Posted by: Leftists at November 30, 2025 11:26 PM (uQesX)
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First of all it's just a Washington Post story. It was a certainty from the when the first drug boat was blown up the Left would eventually claim the US killed survivors. And unless someone on site provided that info, it's just hearsay.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025 11:26 PM (KDPiq)
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Suppose some Cubans decide Trump is not a proper Communist so unfit to rule over us.
Posted by: gKWVE at November 30, 2025 11:25 PM (8zJKU)
Well, I guess the cubans can join antifa and the deep state and try to remove him.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 30, 2025 11:26 PM (bss/y)
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You seem to have your shit together . Are there any bands that weren't dysfunctional?
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025 11:13 PM (KDPiq)
In my experience? No, lol. Well there are, but just like with anything else, you got 4-5 different brains to deal with. The bands that have 5 dudes running towards the finish line are the ones that usually do ok. Still don't mean you'll succeed, but there are much less problems during the voyage. As far as the members go individually wise, thats a crap shoot. Some members are chronic fuck ups, great players who just can't get their shit together. They do things like forget their guitar cords, or straps, or extra strings, etc. Yeah I'm the asshole who always brought spare everything, so yeah I did have my shit together. In some other bands we had a few good dudes that were on top of things, other bands not so much. Some bands were a complete clusterfuck but were damn fun to play in. Its all over the map really. In the end, yeah, a good amount of bands are totally screwups.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 11:27 PM (snZF9)
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It wasn't as glamorous as it sounds...
Yes, but climate-controlled beats the crap out off working in a refinery...or, what was more fun where I grew up, one of the local carbon black plants.
Posted by: Don in SoCo at November 30, 2025 11:27 PM (vd6bO)
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250 First of all it's just a Washington Post story. It was a certainty from the when the first drug boat was blown up the Left would eventually claim the US killed survivors. And unless someone on site provided that info, it's just hearsay.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025 11:26 PM (KDPiq)
They machine gunned all the survivors! I saw it!
-Casper
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 30, 2025 11:27 PM (bss/y)
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Aetius, yeah, I was more or less thinking along those lines.
Posted by: gKWVE at November 30, 2025 11:27 PM (8zJKU)
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227 The next time sen. mark kelly is asked what illegal order? Killing to boat survivors on a life raft is illegal order and war crime.
Posted by: raimondo a
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The rule is that we are to blame Mark Kelly's political rhetoric for the shooting of our National Guardsmen in DC.
This rule was created by Mark Kelly when his wife was shot in 2011 by a deranged lunatic for completely apolitical reasons. Kelly and the Democrats and the media blamed Sarah Palin, Andrew Breitbart, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck for the shooting.
This is the rule.
It's HIS and his party's rule
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 11:28 PM (Y7TJ9)
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I wonder if the cartel worker safety guy makes them put life rafts on their boats. One of them would take up a lot of space where you could put something else, like Coke or Heroin. It's good to hear they take care of their workers though.
Posted by: Reforger at November 30, 2025 11:30 PM (03GBw)
USN enlisted man, an E3, missed "duty" for the second time in a month, and was scheduled for Captain's Mast. Knew he was gonna lose a stripe, so smart-ass decided he would fix up his uniform & lowest stripe with velcro so he could remove it on-the-spot when the inevitable occured.
Mast proceeded as he'd anticipated when the Captain said "reduction in rank to E2" so our enlisted man grinned and pulled off that stripe.
"That's a neat trick, sailor. Let's see you do it again. Reduction in rank to E1"
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 11:30 PM (rdVOm)
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Oh, and those airpants? Am I to believe someone is going to have the lung capacity to inflate those things and THEN work out in them? I assume you have to put them on before inflating, yes? So she blows yours up (I know, phrasing), then you gotta somehow scooch down and...
Now I want to get a pair and make a Yootube of this. I'll need a willing assistant...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 30, 2025 11:31 PM (nbLIj)
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Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 11:27 PM (snZF9)
Just for context I watched Kisstory, one on Metallica and one on Alice Cooper and his bandmates.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025 11:31 PM (KDPiq)
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Listen, if we can upend the SA drug trade, end the CIA's multi-generational Op game, and save some American lives by taking out Maduro, I'm all for it.
The US has largely been derelict in SA, for f**ks sake, we're letting the commies run the f**king place, we should have beaten it into being a good ally like we did the Japanese.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 30, 2025 11:32 PM (XV/Pl)
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Thanks for the laughs tonight, Horde, I have been putting Christmas stuff up all day and I am going to bed. My neighbor and I are hoping to get all of our shopping done tomorrow.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at November 30, 2025 11:32 PM (0nHVk)
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The Haiti invaders reminded me of an old true story, back in the 70s or so there was a coup in a small African country, two SAS guys flew in commercial from Britain, went to the presidential palace, beat up the guards and took their guns, then went in and re-installed the ousted leader. Can't remember much more of the details.
Posted by: Yop at November 30, 2025 11:32 PM (RKj5x)
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Venezuela's mistake was letting Chavez live after his first failed coup.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2025 11:33 PM (dnZHb)
239
The Haiti invaders reminded me of an old true story, back in the 70s or so there was a coup in a small African country, two SAS guys flew in commercial from Britain, went to the presidential palace, beat up the guards and took their guns, then went in and re-installed the ousted leader. Can't remember much more of the details.
Posted by: Yop at November 30, 2025 11:32 PM (RKj5x)
The Dogs of War was a really good movie.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025 11:33 PM (KDPiq)
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257 I wonder if the cartel worker safety guy makes them put life rafts on their boats. One of them would take up a lot of space where you could put something else, like Coke or Heroin. It's good to hear they take care of their workers though.
Posted by: Reforger at November 30, 2025 11:30 PM (03GBw)
The safety guy has to be getting frustrated with his flip sign too.
'00' Days since last lost time accident. *sigh*
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 30, 2025 11:34 PM (bss/y)
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First of all it's just a Washington Post story. It was a certainty from the when the first drug boat was blown up the Left would eventually claim the US killed survivors. And unless someone on site provided that info, it's just hearsay.
Posted by: the way I see it
See, they were surviving until their boat got blown up!
Killing survivors.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 30, 2025 11:34 PM (Z5/Ih)
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 11:35 PM (rdVOm)
243
Pentagon spokesman, "so you want us to leave them in water so the sharks eat them?"
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2025 11:35 PM (dnZHb)
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>>"so you want us to leave them in water so the sharks eat them?"
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I... I do not have a problem with that...
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 11:37 PM (rdVOm)
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>>>The US has largely been derelict in SA, for f**ks sake, we're letting the commies run the f**king place, we should have beaten it into being a good ally like we did the Japanese.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
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Ecuador, recently, voted to disallow a US base on its soil.
We need to make a friendly presence while driving out the
commies.
I think Guyana is looking for a friend, right now.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 11:38 PM (Y7TJ9)
Posted by: BifBewalski - at November 30, 2025 11:39 PM (QVmho)
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Mast proceeded as he'd anticipated when the Captain said "reduction in rank to E2" so our enlisted man grinned and pulled off that stripe.
"That's a neat trick, sailor. Let's see you do it again. Reduction in rank to E1"
Posted by: JQ
Normally, Army side, you'd unpin your PFC rank right there.
Nobody cares if you then or ever pinned on the skeeter wings.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 30, 2025 11:40 PM (Z5/Ih)
249
It was all a mess. And the house had been owned by the kind of people that thought they were good at DIY reno and should have really hired a pro.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 30, 2025 11:13 PM (3uBP9)
Oh yeah, some people can be lethal to a house. I'll never forget this one job. There wasn't even a kitchen or bath involved because we had branched out into actual restoration. This poor house. It was a beautiful 3 floor old house that had a round 3 floor corner tower. They had an electrician friend come in to do a job. When I say it looked like the 3 stooges did it, I..am ..not...frigging..kidding. Beautiful hardwood floors that had 12"X12" holes cut into them as if somebody plunged a circular saw into it. I can just hear Curly giggling while doing it. They had 2x2 wholes blasted into plaster walls where a single receptacle box hung by a wire and not anchored, and that was done in a lot of locations. We were there over a month. We had to sheetrock some entire rooms, plaster whole walls in others. We had to fit pieces of oak into the ruined floors which then needed to be sanded and refinished, and on and on. It was sickening what they did.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 11:42 PM (snZF9)
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'Night, Debby. Happy shopping tomorrow!
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 11:35 PM (rdVOm)
Dang, I was hoping Debby would be my willing assistant.
(Eyes JQ.. Straightens tie..)
Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 30, 2025 11:46 PM (nbLIj)
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(Eyes JQ.. Straightens tie..)
Posted by: Joe Kidd
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*switches on 'pancake' air compressor*
Say what now?
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 11:49 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 11:52 PM (rdVOm)
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If you are more than an little curious about what is supposedly really going on in Venezuela, try the link below. It is to a substack written by a woman named Elizabeth Nickson.
If you read this and think it is believable (and the story is being picked up by other people in the alternative media), then it might explain more about what Donald Trump and his administration are trying to do. It is very interesting.
https://tinyurl.com/49ma5ab6
Posted by: Pepperidge Farms remembers at November 30, 2025 11:56 PM (13Txl)
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273 >>>The US has largely been derelict in SA, for f**ks sake, we're letting the commies run the f**king place, we should have beaten it into being a good ally like we did the Japanese.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
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Ecuador, recently, voted to disallow a US base on its soil.
We need to make a friendly presence while driving out the
commies.
I think Guyana is looking for a friend, right now.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 11:38 PM (Y7TJ9)
Sad fact is that unless you are part of NATO, the US can be a fickle ally.
The policy towards your country can drastically change every 4 years...
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 30, 2025 11:57 PM (mP0Kj)
Say what now?
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 11:49 PM (rdVOm)
Ok, we probably should have checked the psi rating on these things..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 30, 2025 11:57 PM (nbLIj)
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I am older. Remember the 80's very well.
Miss VHS, Link rescuing Princess Peach on Nintendo, mixtapes.
Boomboxes were the care that blasts music you don't want to hear. VHS
Posted by: LGBTQ+POC, ANTI RACIST HERO at December 01, 2025 12:00 AM (aRd0E)
258
Funny thing I saw tonight, as I took wheelie bin to the street...
Weird lights in the sky. It's mostly cloudy, not quite overcast, but lights were moving back & forth across the clouds. Obviously, somebody has a very bright light and was aiming it at the sky. Colors, too! Pretty cool, and fun for a kid or a *big kid* LOL.
There's a few houses and trees in between, so I can't see exactly where it came from, but I'd bet my entire life savings on that light belonging to my older brother! He was always doing stuff like that. Too bad we don't get along any more-- he could sometimes be fun to hang around with.
Posted by: JQ at December 01, 2025 12:00 AM (rdVOm)
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Good evening Horde! Very satisfying content tonight, Disco. Read the content, but lack the PPE for the comments.
- Gotta appreciate the craftsmanship with the drywaller
- Piper Fashion >>> Dino fashion (respect the effort, however)
- Stephanie Seymour... sigh... Oooh, La, La whatababe
- The 80's: Had all those items except unidentifiable pink item in bottom right
Posted by: scampydog at December 01, 2025 12:00 AM (41CYW)
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Sorry, VHS tapes are still transferable way better than 8 mm or miniDV. Cell phones have become a nightmare in nearly every way.
Posted by: LGBTQ+POC, ANTI RACIST HERO at December 01, 2025 12:02 AM (aRd0E)
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269 First of all it's just a Washington Post story. It was a certainty from the when the first drug boat was blown up the Left would eventually claim the US killed survivors. And unless someone on site provided that info, it's just hearsay.
Posted by: the way I see it
But the thing is, they’re big mad because there were no survivors. What’s astounding is that they’re trying to push this like it’s some impeachable thing - but the story even as told is stupid as all get out, and it’s already falling apart more.
Start with this fact: a Hellfire missile has a killing radius of 20 meters, extending to 5O meters with shrapnel taken into account, and this was only a 30’ boat. Everyone on it was dead after the first hit, and IF there was a second shot, it was only to make sure the wreck wasn’t floating where someone else could fish some fentanyl packages out of it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 01, 2025 12:02 AM (3U2FH)
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There's a few houses and trees in between, so I can't see exactly where it came from, but I'd bet my entire life savings on that light belonging to my older brother! He was always doing stuff like that. Too bad we don't get along any more-- he could sometimes be fun to hang around with.
Posted by: JQ at December 01, 2025 12:00 AM (rdVOm)
I remember as a kid growing up in Phoenix, some of the car dealers would rent these huge skylights and whenever there was some overcast let them play all over the bottoms of the clouds. Pretty cool to watch.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 01, 2025 12:04 AM (3U2FH)
Things David French says about watching his wife be manhandled by a well-hung brute.
Posted by: Brute Squad Quarterly at December 01, 2025 12:05 AM (Z/cmS)
264
Ahhh, fabulous, the Trapper Keeper. Pink, velcro, 3 ringer. Homework secured. Never had one.
Posted by: scampydog at December 01, 2025 12:07 AM (41CYW)
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I remember as a kid growing up in Phoenix, some of the car dealers would rent these huge skylights and whenever there was some overcast let them play all over the bottoms of the clouds. Pretty cool to watch.
Posted by: Tom Servo
People would drive for miles to find the light.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2025 12:08 AM (Z5/Ih)
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People would drive for miles to find the light.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2025 12:08 AM (Z5/Ih)
Those things were huge.
Posted by: Reforger at December 01, 2025 12:10 AM (03GBw)
267
I picture a homeless army as occupying the zone between Stripes and Dawn of the Dead.
- - - - - -
A Hobo with a Shotgun would be a more effective army...
Posted by: As not seen on TV at December 01, 2025 12:10 AM (zqi7d)
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Ahhh, fabulous, the Trapper Keeper. Pink, velcro, 3 ringer. Homework secured. Never had one.
Posted by: scampydog
The Trapper Keeper was where you kept your Trappers.
You could by Trappers to put in your regular binder.
Those with taste for the finer things would also go for the Trapper Keeper.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2025 12:12 AM (Z5/Ih)
269
I went to elementary school in the 1980s. Everyone had a trapper keeper. If that's not true for you, you were not in elementary school in the 1980s or are a foreigner or AI chat bot.
Posted by: Hugh G. Rection at December 01, 2025 12:12 AM (mJghz)
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Posted by: Tom Servo at December 01, 2025 12:02 AM (3U2FH)
War crime is like Climate Change... it's all dependent on what WE want to call it as an attack.
Now, if they want to quote the specific UCMJ Reg they broke? OK, But the nebulous 'War Crime' as is there is some body of Law from some Government with supremacy over the Constitution? ya... uh... no.
The closest thing is the Geneva Convention, which says it is quite OK to outright kill Terrorists, and unarmed combatants... but I don't think I've ever heard of someone being Prosecuted in US Courts, for violating the Geneva Convention.
there is apparently a 'War Crimes Act of 1996' that makes 'grave' violations of the conventions prosecutable under US law... but it never gives specifics, as to what actions are criminal... so vague as to be meaningless.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 01, 2025 12:13 AM (mP0Kj)
There were fad items in the 1980s I remember everyone having (I actually had a Members Only jacket for instance), but then others that I don't recall anyone ever really owning.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2025 12:09 AM (u0r2I)
Pet Rock... nuff said.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 01, 2025 12:15 AM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: Hugh G. Rection at December 01, 2025 12:16 AM (mJghz)
273
Trapper keepers were for the rich kids. Pee-Chee folders, too.
We got plain binders and plain folders from the discount store. And made our own book covers from brown paper grocery bags.
But it was its own kind of Coolness! We could draw our own designs with colored pens & pencils.
Posted by: JQ at December 01, 2025 12:16 AM (rdVOm)
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"If I buy you this expensive binder will you use it? Like to bring your homework home and take it back to school?"
"Yeah yeah. I want a trapper keeper."
"Okay"
Evening, first day of school.
"Where is your trapper keeper and homework?"
"Umm at school..."
Posted by: Reforger at December 01, 2025 12:18 AM (03GBw)
275 257 I wonder if the cartel worker safety guy makes them put life rafts on their boats. One of them would take up a lot of space where you could put something else, like Coke or Heroin. It's good to hear they take care of their workers though.
Posted by: Reforger at November 30, 2025 11:30 PM
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I think their safety instructions are "deliver the dope or die."
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 01, 2025 12:18 AM (azNOR)
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301 Posted by: Tom Servo at December 01, 2025 12:02 AM (3U2FH)
War crime is like Climate Change... it's all dependent on what WE want to call it as an attack.
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They must go through about ten checks before they can fire.
Not only that there is precedent established by past presidents.
Surely WaPo remembers the American citizens Butt Boy Barry
murdered.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 01, 2025 12:18 AM (Y7TJ9)
277
Also, I believe Trapper Keepers were introduced in the 1970s.
Posted by: JQ at December 01, 2025 12:19 AM (rdVOm)
278
Last pic is AI produced. Look at the green dial phone.
Posted by: GWB at December 01, 2025 12:20 AM (OKthV)
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311 Also, I believe Trapper Keepers were introduced in the 1970s.
Posted by: JQ at December 01, 2025 12:19 AM (rdVOm)
Without looking it up I'd say 76.
Posted by: Reforger at December 01, 2025 12:21 AM (03GBw)
280
Pet Rock... nuff said.
Posted by: Romeo13
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Older sisters had those. I said, "I don't get it." Their looks were a mixture of confusion and disappointing judgment. And the ever regular, "Get out of my room!"
Posted by: scampydog at December 01, 2025 12:22 AM (41CYW)
281
The whole idea for the Dems is to get any order issued by Trump declared illegal. Then they're going to give every soldier who followed said orders the J6 protestor treatment.
Posted by: qdpsteve
Show trials with supposedly real prosecutors charging innocent people with imaginary crimes, sham judges going along with the show, ignorant juries doing what they are told.
Almost like they already said exactly what they intend to do.
As they did.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2025 12:23 AM (Z5/Ih)
282
>>> Also, I believe Trapper Keepers were introduced in the 1970s.
Posted by: JQ at December 01, 2025 12:19 AM (rdVOm)
Wichita Kansas, 1978
Posted by: banana Dream at December 01, 2025 12:24 AM (3uBP9)
283
The US is virtually putting Maduro and all associated criminal activity under siege. No airplanes in or out. No ships in or out without our OK.
Their dope and child trafficking is nil.
This may be an interesting week coming up.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 01, 2025 12:25 AM (Y7TJ9)
284 Show trials with supposedly real prosecutors charging innocent people with imaginary crimes, sham judges going along with the show, ignorant juries doing what they are told.
Almost like they already said exactly what they intend to do.
As they did.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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Which they would compare to the Nuremberg Trials. Thank God they're total eff-ups when it comes to adjudication these days.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 01, 2025 12:27 AM (n7rxJ)
285
I went to elementary school in the 1980s. Everyone had a trapper keeper. If that's not true for you, you were not in elementary school in the 1980s or are a foreigner or AI chat bot.
Posted by: Hugh G. Rection at December 01, 2025 12:12 AM (mJghz)
Well, you're right, I wasn't. But I do remember seeing on the school supply lists every year "PLEASE DO NOT BUY TRAPPER KEEPERS, THEY DO NOT FIT IN OUR DESKS." And it was true, Greg E. got his mom to buy him one, and it got stuck the first day of fifth grade.
Posted by: pookysgirl might have a long memory at December 01, 2025 12:27 AM (Wt5PA)
286 Well, that's a wrap for November. Meteorological winter begins.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at December 01, 2025 12:27 AM (w6EFb)
287
Wow.... 10 Pakistani soldiers killed when their convoy was ambushed by separatists...
Didn't have that on my bingo card.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 01, 2025 12:30 AM (mP0Kj)
288
Per Flynn, the shooter was trained by the CIA. Over there he and the others like him had handlers. They were trained and supervised. They are skilled at several types of activities.
The CIA knows who they are. Also, this shooting was a planned operation. It was not random.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 01, 2025 12:31 AM (Y7TJ9)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 01, 2025 12:32 AM (Y7TJ9)
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320 I went to elementary school in the 1980s. Everyone had a trapper keeper. If that's not true for you, you were not in elementary school in the 1980s or are a foreigner or AI chat bot.
Posted by: Hugh G. Rection at December 01, 2025 12:12 AM (mJghz)
I don’t think there was a moment I didn’t have one from fourth grade on. My Trapper Keeper in fourth grade was Garfield themed.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 01, 2025 12:33 AM (4786I)
292
Wow.... 10 Pakistani soldiers killed when their convoy was ambushed by separatists...
Didn't have that on my bingo card.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 01, 2025 12:30 AM (mP0Kj)
Wait, who's separating? Pakistan is already a country that was separated from another.
Posted by: pookysgirl thankfully doesn't have to pay much attention anymore at December 01, 2025 12:33 AM (Wt5PA)
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>>>Another thing - young people have also in some cases replaced coats with wearing a blanket. Who knew looking like a complete bum could be fashionable?
Posted by: Cow Demon
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It's just another step of many in our cultural devolution.
Seen the guys wearing cut-offs to church?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 01, 2025 12:34 AM (Y7TJ9)
294
Surely WaPo remembers the American citizens Butt Boy Barry
murdered.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 01, 2025 12:18 AM (Y7TJ9)
Insolence.
Posted by: WaPo at December 01, 2025 12:35 AM (4786I)
295
Another thing - young people have also in some cases replaced coats with wearing a blanket. Who knew looking like a complete bum could be fashionable?
Posted by: Cow Demon
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Haven't seen *that* here, yet.. But I can understand how the fad might have started-- blankets are inexpensive, compared to coats. Plus, pretty colors!
🤷♀️
Posted by: JQ at December 01, 2025 12:35 AM (rdVOm)
296
I went to elementary school in the 1960s. NOBODY had a trapper keeper.
Posted by: JQ at December 01, 2025 12:39 AM (rdVOm)
297
286 I am older. Remember the 80's very well.
Miss VHS, Link rescuing Princess Peach on Nintendo, mixtapes.
Boomboxes were the care that blasts music you don't want to hear. VHS
Posted by: LGBTQ+POC, ANTI RACIST HERO at December 01, 2025 12:00 AM (aRd0E)
I had a video mixtape, even. Taped videos off of a channel called “MTV”.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 01, 2025 12:39 AM (4786I)
298
Picked up an abandoned USA Today paper, from Tuesday. Don't know if it has been mentioned here, but the the very bold headline, overlying a photo of a mother and children, read:
"How The 'best dad' died in ICE custody"
Implying that ICE was somehow responsible for the death.
If you missed it, the guy was being detained, and someone shot at the ICE van, striking the detanee.
Here's headline (might squeak in the margins):
https://x.com/ukpapers/status/1993268173655654797
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2025 12:42 AM (XeU6L)
299
Surely WaPo remembers the American citizens Butt Boy Barry
murdered.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others
At least they were in a foreign country at the time!
-MFM
While true. They message conveyed is misleading and inflamatory.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 01, 2025 12:45 AM (Z5/Ih)
300
There's a reason why USA Today has been dying a long, slow death.
Posted by: qdpsteve
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And taking with it the 100 or so local papers tht Gannett bought.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2025 12:46 AM (XeU6L)
301
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2025 12:42 AM (XeU6L)
Remember the doorway video of the ICE officers shielding and herding the detainees inside while their colleagues were giving cover fire? I'm sure USA Today would still label them as monsters.
Posted by: pookysgirl, ICE ICE baby at December 01, 2025 12:47 AM (Wt5PA)
302
AOP and JQ, in case you're interested in the outcome of my snowblower problem, AOP had exactly the right solution. Thank you!
You suggested using a compound tin snips to cut through the metal wrapped tightly around the auger shaft. Fortunately, such a tool was at hand (a Wiss brand, could have been my dad's), and it worked its magic. That saved me from the big job of removing the auger.
When it wouldn't start, I thought it might have been because I tipped it back to work on it. But I recalled taking the precaution of pulling off the spark plug wire. Started right up; did the garage apron and sixty yards of alley in heavy snow. No heart attack today. :-)
Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 01, 2025 12:47 AM (NOSDa)
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263 Listen, if we can upend the SA drug trade, end the CIA's multi-generational Op game, and save some American lives by taking out Maduro, I'm all for it.
The US has largely been derelict in SA, for f**ks sake, we're letting the commies run the f**king place, we should have beaten it into being a good ally like we did the Japanese.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 30, 2025 11:32 PM (XV/Pl)
As much as I dislike the AoS Isolationist and Code Pinker set, I may sound like one here. But hear me out:
Unless Venezuela does something like invade Guyana, I would not touch the place. It is better for Maduro to be tossed organically rather than give commies and anti-Americans the propaganda gift of “well such and such is just a Yankee puppet”.
Plink their drug trade in international waters. DIME this one out as with all things.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 01, 2025 12:47 AM (4786I)
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"Trump isn’t just closing airspace, he’s cutting the oxygen to the deep-state money laundering superhighway that’s been funding black sites, color revolutions, and child trafficking networks across the hemisphere. Land operations begin “VERY SOON.”
Translation: The white hats are moving in to seize the servers, the tunnels, and the ledgers the mockingbird media swore didn’t exist. The storm over Caracas is about to expose everything."
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 01, 2025 12:49 AM (Y7TJ9)
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Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 01, 2025 12:47 AM
WooHoo!!!
Glad you fixed it and thanks for the update!
Posted by: JQ at December 01, 2025 12:50 AM (rdVOm)
306
And taking with it the 100 or so local papers tht Gannett bought.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2025 12:46 AM (XeU6L)
If it would take the worthless newspaper I disparagingly call the Amarillo Community Calendar with it, I’d be much appreciative. (They only have Local Fluff stories on the front page.)
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 01, 2025 12:50 AM (4786I)
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Piper, this holiday FLOTUS Fashion installment is wonderful!
>>>She opted for a floor-length Christian Dior Palto Coat in ecru
mid-calf? (instead of floor-length)
Posted by: m at December 01, 2025 12:52 AM (RuTUS)
308 If it would take the worthless newspaper I disparagingly call the Amarillo Community Calendar with it, I’d be much appreciative. (They only have Local Fluff stories on the front page.)
Posted by: Cow Demon
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Same has happened here since Gannett bought our paper. Just fluff. I used to be a good local paper. Now, it isn't even published here.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 01, 2025 12:53 AM (XeU6L)
Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 01, 2025 12:59 AM (/TzNd)
317
That said, there are a lot of tyrants in the world and it is not America's job to unseat them. Suppose some Cubans decide Trump is not a proper Communist so unfit to rule over us.
Posted by: gKWVE at November 30, 2025 11:25 PM (8zJKU)
Ah, there’s my isolationist/ Code Pinker…
Some Cubans have thought that but they can’t. The end. Though you are ashamed of it, this country IS a superpower for a reason and I’d rather have US setting the rules and not the PRC.
(But look up above for what I think of Venezuela)
Peace Through Strength. DIME. Deterrence, power projection.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 01, 2025 12:59 AM (4786I)
318 The only MSM news channel (excluding Fox) to touch Tampon Tim for the Somalian Scandal was NBC. None of the lefty podcasts either.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 01, 2025 01:01 AM (n7rxJ)
Posted by: Archer at December 01, 2025 01:02 AM (YGRGv)
320 That said, there are a lot of tyrants in the world and it is not America's job to unseat them. Suppose some Cubans decide Trump is not a proper Communist so unfit to rule over us.
Posted by: gKWVE
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I'm sure all the Commie leaders of Cuba have decided that the US prez should go (except Obama and Biden). And every 2-bit freedom-hating country on the planet has a scheme to overthrow the U.S., probably by buddying up with China or Iran.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 01, 2025 01:04 AM (n7rxJ)
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354 I think the crazy person is barking
Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 01, 2025 12:59 AM (/TzNd)
Oh, good catch.
Posted by: m at December 01, 2025 01:04 AM (RuTUS)
322
This is the search results for DataRepublican's mentions of Venezuela:
https://tinyurl.com/4f33nzsc
It covers drugs, antifa, Marxists, Iran, Soros, color revolution, and more.
323
Negotiations between the U.S. & Ukraine on Sunday focused on where the de facto border with Russia would be drawn under a peace deal. Ukrainian officials described the five-hour meeting as "difficult" and "intense" but productive.
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Europe failed on their promise to deliver arms and the US has cut Zelensky off. He's having a difficult time coming to terms with reality.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 01, 2025 01:05 AM (Y7TJ9)
324
357 JM, it's one of these videos that could be AI, but I'm hoping it isn't.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2025 01:01 AM (u0r2I)
Aww. I hope not.
Posted by: m at December 01, 2025 01:06 AM (RuTUS)
325 Blonde, I'm shocked NYT covered it.
Apparently Tim missed a dues payment.
Posted by: qdpsteve
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The Powerline boys have a theory: the NY Times article was intended for an audience of One, namely Tampon Tim. Supposedly there's a feeling that Tim will be as bad for the Dem party as Biden was and he needs to be edged out.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 01, 2025 01:06 AM (n7rxJ)
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365 The Powerline boys have a theory: the NY Times article was intended for an audience of One, namely Tampon Tim. Supposedly there's a feeling that Tim will be as bad for the Dem party as Biden was and he needs to be edged out.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 01, 2025 01:06 AM (n7rxJ)
He is truly awful.
Posted by: m at December 01, 2025 01:10 AM (RuTUS)
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362 This is the search results for DataRepublican's mentions of Venezuela:
https://tinyurl.com/4f33nzsc
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It's not working
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 01, 2025 01:12 AM (Y7TJ9)
328
Well, it's time for me to hit the sack. Night, Horde.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2025 01:15 AM (npFr7)
Unbelievably bad. Utterly discredits Minnesota voters. I hope he gets exposed as thoroughly as Biden was and the other Democrats all claim they had no idea. Haha, it would be hilarious if Kamala had to go through a second round of denying any and all knowledge of a running mate's total incompetence.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 01, 2025 01:16 AM (n7rxJ)
330
357 JM, it's one of these videos that could be AI, but I'm hoping it isn't.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 01, 2025 01:01 AM (
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I'm thinking the same thing. Pepper spray in the face? OK. Orange dye? Nope, but it's fun to dream.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 01, 2025 01:18 AM (wWENI)
331
COLOR REVOLUTION:
Seditious Six member Senator Elissa Slotkin spoke at the Brookings Institute last month, predicting an incident involving National Guard. She estimated that it would take place in around two weeks from when she spoke
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 01, 2025 01:20 AM (Y7TJ9)
332
I need to get a fancy super-bright spotlight... so next time *somebody* plays on the clouds with theirs, I can join the fun from here. Yeah, I'm slightly geeky about flashlights, too.
Big bro & I are a couple of years apart in age, but our birthdays are mid-summer, about a week apart. We used to get together & celebrate both on the weekend in-between. Gifts? Usually some kind of portable light! Hahaha, I used to refer to birthdays & Christmas as "The Semi-Annual Flashlight Exchange."
I mean--- I *know* that light on the clouds had to have been my brother & his friend(s) goofing around tonight.
Posted by: JQ at December 01, 2025 01:21 AM (rdVOm)
333
This is the search results for DataRepublican's mentions of Venezuela:
https://tinyurl.com/4f33nzsc
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It's not working
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 01, 2025 01:12 AM (Y7TJ9)
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Posted by: Joyenz at December 01, 2025 01:26 AM (2F0/Y)
336
Should have clocked 🕧 out before watching that schlock SF movie in the Gun Thread. It was only an hour, but felt like much longer. The Brain Eaters didn't even really eat brains. Had Mr Spock in a beard, though.
Much better-spent 43 minutes:
https://youtu.be/x0JnBvmOjlc
337
So what do we do with a crazy person screaming in your face?
Posted by: JM in Illinois
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Laugh at them.
Posted by: JQ at December 01, 2025 01:31 AM (rdVOm)
338
I'm sure all the Commie leaders of Cuba have decided that the US prez should go (except Obama and Biden). And every 2-bit freedom-hating country on the planet has a scheme to overthrow the U.S., probably by buddying up with China or Iran.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 01, 2025 01:04 AM (n7rxJ)
This is why we should not have a military or a State Department. And just think of the money we will save!
And if the PRC takes over the world, so be it. I always wanted to learn Mandarin!
Posted by: AoS Isolationists and Code Pinkers at December 01, 2025 01:32 AM (4786I)
HOLY CRAP! Seditious Sen. Mark Kelly is digging his hole EVEN DEEPER, saying the military rebellion MUST happen
Even Kristen Welker can't BELIEVE what he is saying right now.
KELLY: Just say I'M NOT GONNA DO THAT, it's against the law.
WELKER: That's a lot of burden on the troops to make a decision in real-time...
KELLY: A reasonable person can tell what's legal and illegal.
WELKER: So would YOU refuse these orders to strike drug boats?
KELLY: Well, the, the difference between the initial strike and what's being reported as a second strike, those are different...they've tied themselves in knots..[non-answer].
COURT-MARTIAL KELLY, NOW
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 01, 2025 01:33 AM (Y7TJ9)
Login to X account required.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey,
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I ascribe to the Marx theory of belonging.
However, I did find her flow chart of democracy_death which is a boat load of info.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 01, 2025 01:35 AM (Y7TJ9)
341
And if the PRC takes over the world, so be it. I always wanted to learn Mandarin!
Posted by: AoS Isolationists and Code Pinkers
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Of course you're just trying to be provocative, but if we are to be occupied-- I'd rather chy-nah than mullah. At least chy-nah knows how to deal with muzloids.
Posted by: JQ at December 01, 2025 01:36 AM (rdVOm)
342
>>>And if the PRC takes over the world, so be it. I always wanted to learn Mandarin!
Posted by: AoS Isolationists and Code Pinkers
-=--
A member of the Jim Rogers fan club, I take it.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 01, 2025 01:37 AM (Y7TJ9)
343
KELLY: A reasonable person can tell what's legal and illegal.
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But leftarded judges cannot.
Posted by: JQ at December 01, 2025 01:37 AM (rdVOm)
344
Congratulations 15 year old Peyton Wescott first female to win formula trophy race beating 23 boys from around the world.
Posted by: raimondo at December 01, 2025 01:39 AM (XX7ZU)
345
He looks like a caricature of a human and he's beginning to talk like one.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 01, 2025 01:40 AM (Y7TJ9)
346
Tariff Revenue Surges To Record High Of $31.4 Billion In October
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 01, 2025 01:45 AM (Y7TJ9)
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qdpsteve, difficult to put into words what I think they should do; However, I believe that Trump has a plan and in bringing that plan to fruition all of the inner backwash that we hear rumored is taken into consideration.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 01, 2025 01:50 AM (Y7TJ9)
There are laws that impact our Nation. Read Title 18, Chapter 115, Section 2387, "Whoever with the intent to interfere, impair, influence the loyalty, moral or discipline of the military and Naval Forces,......to be fined or imprisoned up to 10 years." Commander Kirk Lippold, U.S. Navy, Ret. This is right on point. DO WHAT HAS TO BE DONE!!!
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 01, 2025 01:54 AM (Y7TJ9)
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385 KELLY: A reasonable person can tell what's legal and illegal.
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Well, if it's that simple, I guess we have no need of all those JAG Attorneys who wasted all those years in law school getting training
Posted by: JM in Illinois at December 01, 2025 01:57 AM (aLBYs)
350
Modest and restrained Leo Terrell addresses the Mark Kelly, Dana Bash interview.
https://tinyurl.com/37ekwsej
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at December 01, 2025 01:58 AM (Y7TJ9)
Some Cubans have thought that but they can’t. The end. Though you are ashamed of it, this country IS a superpower for a reason and I’d rather have US setting the rules and not the PRC.
(But look up above for what I think of Venezuela)
Peace Through Strength. DIME. Deterrence, power projection.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 01, 2025 12:59 AM (4786I)
Everyone I disagree with is a fifth columnist!
Posted by: sphinctersayswhat? at December 01, 2025 02:09 AM (lkJnJ)
353
Managed to only spend money on a tree and a USB hub... Must resist new CPU....~
*crawls across floor *
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 01, 2025 02:13 AM (mlg/3)
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379 I'm sure all the Commie leaders of Cuba have decided that the US prez should go (except Obama and Biden). And every 2-bit freedom-hating country on the planet has a scheme to overthrow the U.S., probably by buddying up with China or Iran.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 01, 2025 01:04 AM (n7rxJ)
This is why we should not have a military or a State Department. And just think of the money we will save!
And if the PRC takes over the world, so be it. I always wanted to learn Mandarin!
Posted by: AoS Isolationists and Code Pinkers at December 01, 2025 01:32 AM (4786I)
I insult people on the ONT because I have low self-esteem and this helps me feel good about myself.
Posted by: ineedtherapy at December 01, 2025 02:17 AM (f65az)
355
Drove past several tree lots today. Not in the market for one, so didn't stop. Haven't had a 'real' tree for ~25years, but wonder how much they charge this year?
It was pricey back in '99, think we paid $50 or so for a 7ft balsam fir.
Posted by: JQ at December 01, 2025 02:17 AM (rdVOm)
356
385 KELLY: A reasonable person can tell what's legal and illegal.
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But leftarded judges cannot.
Posted by: JQ at December 01, 2025 01:37 AM (rdVOm)
$575 Billion in torts last year.
$180 Billion paid to lawyers.
$10 Billion to Courts.
$44 Billion DOJ budget.
Sure spending a lot of money on something that should be reasonable.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 01, 2025 02:25 AM (mP0Kj)
357
Hi, Romeo13. Get that mouthy libtarded kid squared away?
*shoot me if I've crossed a line there*
Posted by: JQ at December 01, 2025 02:28 AM (rdVOm)
358
>>>AOP, whaddya think that mechanical device really is? Outside my experience.
Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic
>A cycloidal disc type speed reducer. Basically a gearbox or gearmotor.
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at December 01, 2025 02:33 AM (abmp2)
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It was pricey back in '99, think we paid $50 or so for a 7ft balsam fir.
Posted by: JQ at December 01, 2025 02:17 AM (rdVOm)
You can cut your own for free up here. Hell, you can cut them off my property if you like. Those suckers burn like roman candles and I don't want them near my house.
Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at December 01, 2025 03:05 AM (6Bc88)
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424 Mark Kelly? I thought he was known here as the penis-head looking guy?
Posted by: Farmer at December 01, 2025 03:00 AM (55Qr6)
I think he is more the penis-head thinking guy.
Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at December 01, 2025 03:05 AM (6Bc88)
379
Thanks anyway, tcn.. Can cut my own here if I wanted, but don't want. LOL.
I spent too many years cleaning up sap & pine needles after Christmas. (But it was worth it, at the time)
Posted by: JQ at December 01, 2025 03:08 AM (rdVOm)
380
I would like to plant some conifers on this property. Even though I won't live long enough to see them mature, maybe would see them grow large enough to decorate someday.
Posted by: JQ at December 01, 2025 03:13 AM (rdVOm)
381
Mark Kelly? I thought he was known here as the penis-head looking guy?
Posted by: Farmer at December 01, 2025 03:00 AM (55Qr6)
In my brother's language he would call him "head of my meat".
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 01, 2025 03:31 AM (snZF9)
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Mark Kelly? I thought he was known here as the penis-head looking guy?
Posted by: Farmer at December 01, 2025 03:00 AM (55Qr6)
In my brother's language he would call him "head of my meat".
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 01, 2025 03:31 AM (snZF9)
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Holy Shitballs! How in the ever-loving Hell did it get to be the last November Edition? Big wacky fun this week. My F-150 WeaselMobile farm truck decided to expire and I have been busy finding a replacement (another F-150) rather than writing Gun Thread content. Accordingly, this edition will represent less than my traditional minimal effort.
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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 30, 2025 07:00 PM (aV+0B)
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191 I might miss the gubthread, so SigSauer Romeo 5 Gen II Red Dot. Less than $100 with coupons at Academy.
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Good Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and greetings to our host Weasel!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 30, 2025 07:03 PM (Gesct)
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Sorry to hear about the F-150. Originally when I was thinking about retiring to Texas I was looking at F-150's to replace my Jeep.
Now that Florida is where I will go I am looking at getting a Grand Cherokee instead.
Good luck with the replacement!!
No firearm content except I purchased a gun safe which should be delivered this Friday. Reason? rules and regulations from NYC.
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Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 30, 2025 07:04 PM (CHHv1)
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Here.
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Everywhere.
Evening, Weasel and fellow Gubbers!
Posted by: RI Red at November 30, 2025 07:06 PM (30Gj0)
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Range report: Took the Savage 110EP out for a fine range day at 200 yards. First 3-shot group was slightly under half an inch. For a factory rifle with factory ammo, I think that's a testimony to the quality of gub manufacture today.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 30, 2025 07:07 PM (Gesct)
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Hey RI Red, depending on when I get the new rifle and install the scope, maybe just maybe I might look to come up in March or April for a day of so.
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Posted by: RI Red at November 30, 2025 07:14 PM (30Gj0)
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No firearm content except I purchased a gun safe which should be delivered this Friday. Reason? rules and regulations from NYC.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude
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Just great, another thing to move....thank you NYC.
Hello all, and happy post Thanksgiving greetings.
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No firearm content except I purchased a gun safe which should be delivered this Friday. Reason? rules and regulations from NYC.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude
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Gunsafes are a good idea anyway. A lot of the lightning fast burglaries are after guns, jewelry, gold coins, and checkbooks, etc. The aim is to be in and out in less than 10 minutes.
In some cases nowadays, burglars are setting up game cameras, etc. to watch until the people are gone from the house, then the bums rush to enter, steal, and get away before alarm response can happen.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 07:17 PM (WDjG6)
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Oh, and a gunsafe makes it harder for perps to use your own gun against you if you happen to stumble into your own house being burgled.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 07:17 PM (WDjG6)
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My choice for M1 Carbine reference book: "M1 Carbine Comprehensive Guide" by R.C. Larson. It's heavily illustrated with multiple closeups of serial numbers, markings, parts, tools, and accessories. All of the M1 Carbine manufacturers have their own section, along with the M1A1 paratrooper model, M2 full auto variant and M3 sniper scoped model. Also covered are the post-war arsenal rebuilds, modifications, and overhauls. This book is now out of print but still available used.
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 07:18 PM (BCwQW)
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16 Scoobs, if you can brave the weather, I am always ready.
Posted by: RI Red at November 30, 2025 07:16 PM
We shall see. I admit, becoming more of a wuss when it comes to temperature.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 30, 2025 07:18 PM (aV+0B)
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Shoots well, RI Red! Looking forward to stretching it out a bit. CBD was good enough to give me the dope he uses with his, so I should be close.
Also got my new scope for the Winchester. When I get the rings this week, I'll have to mount it and zero. Maybe even before it gets down to 16 degrees. 😄
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 30, 2025 07:18 PM (Gesct)
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 30, 2025 07:21 PM (jc0TO)
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12 Range report: Took the Savage 110EP out for a fine range day at 200 yards. First 3-shot group was slightly under half an inch. For a factory rifle with factory ammo, I think that's a testimony to the quality of gub manufacture today.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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Savage took a lot of crap from aesthetes that whined about the barrel nut design compared with Winchester and Remington designs at the time.
But, Savage's design made making or even changing a barrel much easier as you only need a gunvise to hold the action, a cheap barrel wrench, and a headspace gauge plus far easier to produce good accuracy at a good price.
R700 folks now have the Remage system that essentially emulates what Savage did.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 07:22 PM (WDjG6)
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 30, 2025 07:21 PM
A fifth of what? Bourbon? Whiskey?
How can we remember if we do not know what it is?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 30, 2025 07:23 PM (aV+0B)
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Scoobs, before you move out of NYC, check w/ the dealer you bought the safe from. It might be simpler/cheaper for you to sell back that safe you just bought as used and get another one in FL or wherever your final retirement location is. Some movers might not want to mess with safes due to their weight and if they have to move them up/down steps. Your higher end safes can get quite heavy and difficult to work with if you're a mover.
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 07:23 PM (BCwQW)
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Weasel, might take a look at the Toyota Tundra.
Amongst its many other virtues, it's made in Texas, which should warm the heart of an Honorary Texan.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 30, 2025 07:25 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 30, 2025 07:27 PM (36PRH)
30Savage took a lot of crap from aesthetes that whined about the barrel nut design compared with Winchester and Remington designs at the time.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 07:22 PM
Some people consider the A-10 ugly.
A-10 people, like Savage people, don't care. The A-10's motto is "Ugly, but well-hung."
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 30, 2025 07:27 PM (0sNs1)
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26 Remember remember the Fifth in November..
Posted by: toby928(c)
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Well in the UK's recent history, Labor and Conservative governments in the House of Commons purposefully let themselves be invaded and impoverished by illegals and legals. That makes what ole Guy Fawkes did a whole less traitorous by comparison.
And they banned common folks from having handguns and tightly regulate long arms to prevent the common folks from defending themselves against teh government sponsored invaders. Now gubmint there is trying to regulate common kitchen knives because their pets are so violent and criminal.
Meanwhile ignoring the English Bill of Rights which is where our 2A comes from.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 07:28 PM (WDjG6)
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29 Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 07:23 PM
Hey Ed, looking to move down myself. Looking to put it in a U-Haul and towing it behind the Jeep.
Also, the safe I got is just something to please NYC when I get another firearm. I only spent around 200 for it.
I can easily leave it behind and just put the 4 or 5 firearms I have in the travel cases I have.
Around this time next year I will make the decision of what will come with me and what I will get rid of.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 30, 2025 07:29 PM (aV+0B)
33Maybe Ace should start up his own AI? ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 30, 2025 07:17 PM
It's already here, and called HordeSource (tm). Give it a try. I've heard it's aces for medical, dating, and relationship advice, especially.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 30, 2025 07:29 PM (0sNs1)
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at November 30, 2025 07:30 PM (sAmhv)
35
Need some advice. And trashing this firearm isn't what I'm looking for.
My son bought a Hi-Point 9mm 955 PCC a couple years ago. It will not feed from the factory mags more than a round or two. No jams, just FTF. I've no idea what the problem is. I can hand cycle the charging handle and it will eject round after round. But... it will not fire a full magazine without fail.
It appears that the cartridges don't sit properly in the magazine. They'll "tilt" down and thus not be fed properly. I've used some WD40 on the mag... no joy.
So.... is this a magazine issue or something else?
I've put in an order for a single 10 round ProMag to see if this will "fix" this problem.
Ideas?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 30, 2025 07:31 PM (NwnyJ)
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Isosceles seems to be replacing the modified Weaver.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 30, 2025 07:31 PM (0sNs1)
A-10 people, like Savage people, don't care. The A-10's motto is "Ugly, but well-hung."
Posted by: Duncanthrax
A good Remington action and barrel can match a Savage but at a higher price point and more difficulty (usually takes a gunsmith) for fitting/changing new barrels.
Winchester relied a bit too heavily on its model 70 mystique which is a damn fine hunting rifle but like the Remington, requires a gunsmith to change/fit barrels.
Ruger, once Bill had passed on, has had good success with its American line that also uses a barrel nut design.
Euroland (new Sauer, Mauser, etc) has instead went to hydraulically pressed in barrels (like the later SKS or AK 47s) which will always require significant tooling to change or fit a new barrel.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 07:32 PM (WDjG6)
38So.... is this a magazine issue or something else?
I've put in an order for a single 10 round ProMag to see if this will "fix" this problem.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 30, 2025 07:31 PM
This seems like the wisest move.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 30, 2025 07:32 PM (jc0TO)
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12 Range report: Took the Savage 110EP out for a fine range day at 200 yards. First 3-shot group was slightly under half an inch.
I’m not a long gun guy. That sounds insanely good.
My range report not as good: the buffer tube detent managed to release itself and the spring into the lower receiver of an AR PCC. I’ve never seen that before and don’t know where to start. Any ideas?
Posted by: Kratwurst at November 30, 2025 07:36 PM (fcDpY)
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Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 30, 2025 07:29 PM (aV+0B)
If you're only in for $200, then it's (obviously) not that big of a deal. I'm told that some movers just won't mess with safes of any kind.
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 07:36 PM (BCwQW)
41My son bought a Hi-Point 9mm 955 PCC a couple years ago. It will not feed from the factory mags more than a round or two. No jams, just FTF. I've no idea what the problem is. I can hand cycle the charging handle and it will eject round after round. But... it will not fire a full magazine without fail.
It appears that the cartridges don't sit properly in the magazine. They'll "tilt" down and thus not be fed properly. I've used some WD40 on the mag... no joy.
So.... is this a magazine issue or something else?
I've put in an order for a single 10 round ProMag to see if this will "fix" this problem.
Ideas?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 30, 2025 07:31 PM
Mags are always the first thought, and often the feed lips. Trying a replacement is a good diagnostic step. ProMags, *cough* however, do not have a good reputation. Given the 'hand charge' description, springs, especially the main spring, would be another place to look.
No jams, just FTF. is a curious statement. Are the rounds feeding, and just not firing. Given everything else you've said, is there just no round to fire? (IOW, *bang*, brass ejects, slide goes forward, trigger press, *nothing*?)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 30, 2025 07:37 PM (0sNs1)
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38 Isosceles seems to be replacing the modified Weaver.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
Isosceles relies on human instinct more than the Weaver. In a fight, people almost naturally fall into a boxer stance and square up to the threat.
The Weaver is actually more like the stance you would shoot long arms, bladed, etc. One of the reasons that Massad, back when he was a cop instructor, felt the isosceles was better was in part that cop's ballistic vests at the time had protection front and back but not on the sides (if it did, it was far weaker usually). A Weaver stance exposes you to a side shot where the body armor wasn't present in the old days.
FWIW, I find myself using the Weaver for long shots and the isosceles and modified Chapman for closer in targets. If I wore body armor, I would probably not use the Weaver at all.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 07:37 PM (WDjG6)
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I don't have one but, Hipoints are all blowback, yes? My experience with blowbacks are pretty high bolt velocities so you do need a good mag and mag spring to make sure that the bolt doesn't out run the ability of the magazine to feed up.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 30, 2025 07:38 PM (jc0TO)
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Martini Farmer, agree w/ toby928 that a new magazine might be in order. If that doesn't work, call HiPoint customer service and see if they'll take a look at the thing. There could be a problem with the feed ramp not lining up w/ the way cartridges are presented from the magazine.
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 07:41 PM (BCwQW)
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43 My son bought a Hi-Point 9mm 955 PCC a couple years ago. It will not feed from the factory mags more than a round or two. No jams, just FTF. I've no idea what the problem is. I can hand cycle the charging handle and it will eject round after round. But... it will not fire a full magazine without fail.
Posted by Martini Farmer
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I would call teh folks at High Point. They have an excellent rep for customer service.
High Points are blowback mechanism instead of Browning tilt block which is the usual mechanism.
That means your ammo has to have a certain 'pep' from recoil to move the slide at the proper velocity to eject and pickup the next round from the magazine.
Blowback actions in handguns or longarms rely more on recoil slide velocity to make the action work than tilting block but you can also adjust for ammo by varying the recoil spring for the action. Less recoiling aka softer ammo, lighter recoil spring, harder recoiling, heavier recoil spring.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 07:42 PM (WDjG6)
46 10 Brain Eaters has Leonard Nimoy in it.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 30, 2025 07:04 PM (CHHv1)
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That was the one where Nimoy kills the monster by improvising a gun from a section of bamboo, gunpowder from coal and saltpeter scraped off a boulder. and a projectile fashioned from a mound of hardened pointy ear wax, right? That was tense.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 30, 2025 07:44 PM (Ijbq0)
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No range time this week, but son #1 already made time for next weekend. Looking forward to it.
I need to get him a holster for his G19 for Christmas, any recs?
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 30, 2025 07:45 PM (YpGFG)
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I need to get him a holster for his G19 for Christmas, any recs?
Posted by: nurse ratched
IWB with light, 4bros.
IWB no light, Tulster.
Posted by: Kratwurst at November 30, 2025 07:49 PM (fcDpY)
49I need to get him a holster for his G19 for Christmas, any recs?
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 30, 2025 07:45 PM
How he carries will have a big effect on recommendations.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 30, 2025 07:49 PM (jc0TO)
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20 My choice for M1 Carbine reference book: "M1 Carbine Comprehensive Guide" by R.C. Larson. It's heavily illustrated with multiple closeups of serial numbers, markings, parts, tools, and accessories. All of the M1 Carbine manufacturers have their own section, along with the M1A1 paratrooper model, M2 full auto variant and M3 sniper scoped model. Also covered are the post-war arsenal rebuilds, modifications, and overhauls. This book is now out of print but still available used.
Posted by: Ed L
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For ordinary shooters, I recommend The M1 Carbine Owner's Guide By Larry L. Ruth and Scott Duff.
Larry Ruth was coauthor of the War Baby M1 Carbine series which is a three volume set from original design to the end of WWII. Seems to be out of print nowadays with used copies bringing big bucks.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 07:49 PM (WDjG6)
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49 No range time this week, but son #1 already made time for next weekend. Looking forward to it.
I need to get him a holster for his G19 for Christmas, any recs?
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 30, 2025 07:45 PM (YpGFG)
VersaCarry for leather or Rounded for kydex. OWB.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 07:50 PM (LHPAg)
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I need to get him a holster for his G19 for Christmas, any recs?
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 30, 2025 07:45 PM (YpGFG)
I am definitely no expert on holsters, but given that there are many different makers, many different style, and more than one place to wear them on one's body, I'd say maybe a gift certificate for "the holster of your choice" would be the best way to do this.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 07:50 PM (npFr7)
53I'd say maybe a gift certificate for "the holster of your choice" would be the best way to do this.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 07:50 PM
Brilliant!
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 30, 2025 07:51 PM (jc0TO)
54
If Plant Robbery belongs in the Garden thread then The Brain Eaters should be in the food thread.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 30, 2025 07:51 PM (pkeXY)
I love my Winchester model 70 target, but that Savage. 110EP is just as good, if not better. For the price, it's just a great rifle.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 30, 2025 07:51 PM (Gesct)
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Range Report!
Dusting off winter pistol skills, I took the G 21 and Springfield GI Model 1911 out to the action bays yesterday.
Shooting, loading mags and handgun manipulation in winter gloves takes some thinking.
G21 had some light primer strikes, the 1911 ate those with no problem.
Today I cleaned the striker and channel. Yep, black schmutz and some fine metal particles. Enough to slow up the striker, I’d say.
But I’m reminded how pleasant it is to shoot .45 ACP from a heavy platform.
Posted by: RI Red at November 30, 2025 07:52 PM (LMRVO)
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Of course it goes without saying you son should have the choice, his firearm, his hip.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 07:53 PM (LHPAg)
58
Question for the horde. I’m going to be mounting a scope on my coyote rifle. A CZ 527 in 223. I’m waiting for Leupold rings from Midway for my 4.5 14 Leopold scope. How important is it to use a torque tool to set the base and ring screws. Also, which thread locker should I use? I’ve researched it but would like the advice of the horde.
Posted by: Charles Martel at November 30, 2025 07:53 PM (smrxK)
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For anyone seriously interested in the mechanics of an M1 Carbines and working on them, I recommend "The U.S. .30 Caliber Gas Operated Carbines: A Shop Manual" by Jerry Kuhnhausen. For this one, Amazon is out of stock but Midwayusa has them in stock.
Jerry was a crackerjack West Coast gunsmith who produced numerous shop manuals for gunsmiths (which are also useful to troubleshoot if you are taking the firearm to a gunsmith to narrow the problem for them).
Army Field Manual reprints also exist and I would imagine you can find them in free epubs too.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 07:53 PM (WDjG6)
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I'd say maybe a gift certificate for "the holster of your choice" would be the best way to do this.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 07:50 PM
Brilliant!
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 30, 2025 07:51 PM
Concur.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 30, 2025 07:54 PM (Gesct)
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The 1911 training video reflects the influence of LTC W.E. Fairbairn, Royal Marines. The point shooting method and the combat course were heavily influenced by his training methods, first implemented during Fairbairn's 20 years with the Shanghai International Settlement Municipal Police. The combat course, with targets popping out of windows and doorways is almost identical to the first "kill houses" Fairbairn designed to train first police officers in Shanghai before training Royal Marine Commandos, SOE operatives, and OSS agents in WWII.
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 07:55 PM (BCwQW)
6256 If Plant Robbery belongs in the Garden thread then The Brain Eaters should be in the food thread.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 30, 2025 07:51 PM (pkeXY)
If CBD sees this, next week's Food Thread will feature "head cheese".
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60 Question for the horde. I’m going to be mounting a scope on my coyote rifle. A CZ 527 in 223. I’m waiting for Leupold rings from Midway for my 4.5 14 Leopold scope. How important is it to use a torque tool to set the base and ring screws. Also, which thread locker should I use? I’ve researched it but would like the advice of the horde.
Posted by: Charles Martel
A) very important as ring screws are often made of cheap Chinesium nowadays and easy to strip or break off.
B) LOCTITE® 222 (purple).
Avoid any loctite that requires heat to remove unless you are toting a serious recoiling elephant gun.
I would also take a bit of fingernail polish and mark the screw position on the surrounding metal. You can tell at a glance if the screw has backed out.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 07:57 PM (WDjG6)
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SigSauer Romeo 5 Gen II Red Dot. Less than $100 with coupons at Academy."
Academy had some good black Friday deals - the Echelon w/green dot, bag, and handful of mags...is right over there, while over here is the Kimber w/mags, bag, holster deal...
Yes, there will be much breaking in of new gubs this winter...
Posted by: man at November 30, 2025 08:00 PM (XuXeR)
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I love my Winchester model 70 target, but that Savage. 110EP is just as good, if not better. For the price, it's just a great rifle.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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Have a Savage 11 in 6.5 Creedmoor that I have never shot due to back and shoulder problems outweighing optimism. Once I get have my spinal surgery, if all goes well, I will probably mount the action in a really heavy stock as my hunting days are over anyway (requiring a full knee replacement soon as well).
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 08:01 PM (WDjG6)
66
Weasel, might take a look at the Toyota Tundra.
Amongst its many other virtues, it's made in Texas, which should warm the heart of an Honorary Texan.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
Second his recommendation!
Gun content: It'll fit your gubs!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 30, 2025 08:02 PM (AsaWd)
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Thanks Whig. I wanted to avoid having to use heat when removing screws having been down that road before. Also the stripped screws road. Great idea on the nail polish! Thanks again.
Posted by: Charles Martel at November 30, 2025 08:02 PM (smrxK)
68That was the one where Nimoy kills the monster by improvising a gun from a section of bamboo, gunpowder from coal and saltpeter scraped off a boulder. and a projectile fashioned from a mound of hardened pointy ear wax, right? That was tense.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 30, 2025 07:44 PM
Gorn AI says no.
Posted by: Wesley Crusher at November 30, 2025 08:03 PM (0sNs1)
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Good evening gubthreaders and all the ships at sea!
Posted by: blaster at November 30, 2025 08:03 PM (RoO7G)
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My range report not as good: the buffer tube detent managed to release itself and the spring into the lower receiver of an AR PCC. I’ve never seen that before and don’t know where to start. Any ideas?
Posted by: Kratwurst at November 30, 2025 07:36 PM (fcDpY)
If you are talking about the buffer retainer and its spring, it is kept from escaping by the edge of the receiver extension (buffer tube), which is screwed into the back of the receiver. If the buffer tube gets unscrewed just a little, the plunger and spring head for orbit. This is why the nut at the back of the receiver is often staked in place.
To replace, the buffer tube is slightly unscrewed, you only need to back it off a couple of threads, and a new retainer and spring are dropped in the hole. Press the retainer down, screw the buffer tube in until the edge of it just barely covers the hole. Line the parts of the stock up and tighten the nut down. An AR15 armorer's wrench is the preferred tool for this.
The good news is replacement parts and a wrench are readily available online, and are inexpensive.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 30, 2025 08:03 PM (P/woT)
Posted by: Slow Newsday Gorn at November 30, 2025 08:04 PM (jc0TO)
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My range report not as good: the buffer tube detent managed to release itself and the spring into the lower receiver of an AR PCC. I’ve never seen that before and don’t know where to start. Any ideas?
Posted by: Kratwurst at November 30, 2025 07:36 PM (fcDpY)
AR PCC's are pure blowback weapons (I think). Are the detent and detent spring themselves out of spec? If they're in spec, they shouldn't be popping out like you describe. Do you know what kind of ammo were you using? I don't know what the buffer weight should be for an AR PCC.
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 08:05 PM (BCwQW)
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Larry Ruth and Scott Duff are the experts on the M1 Carbine. This of course, recognizes that any firearm made by more than 10 companies, over a period of 5 years, has a patchwork history.
Posted by: Quacker at November 30, 2025 08:05 PM (7haIJ)
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Same trick can be used on action screws, use a bit of fingernail polish or liquid paper if you can find it now to mark important screw and sight positions so that any movement of those screws can be noted.
Very important for hard recoiling rifles and shotguns.
In a pinch, for a low grade thread locker, you can use fingernail polish on the bolt/screw. Trick also works on the cylinder removal bolt for Smith and Wesson revolvers to keep them from popping out.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 08:05 PM (WDjG6)
75I need to get him a holster for his G19 for Christmas, any recs?
EDC holsters are a very personal and subjective choice. I would no sooner buy someone else a holster without their input than I would buy my wife a pair of shoes on my own judgement. That said, I have been very happy for quite a few years with my IWB from ttgunleather.com.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 30, 2025 08:06 PM (3nLb4)
76 How important is it to use a torque tool to set the base and ring screws. Also, which thread locker should I use? I’ve researched it but would like the advice of the horde.
Posted by: Charles Martel
A torque tool is very important, as are the manufacturer's recommendation for correct torque.
Loc Tite makes a low-strength treadlocker. It's purple. (222?)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 30, 2025 08:07 PM (0sNs1)
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Good evening to all and I hope the GunHorde had a fantastic Thanksgiving weekend.
Thanks Weasel for the great hospitality and content.
Posted by: Coelacanth at November 30, 2025 08:08 PM (Mmf4/)
78My range report not as good: the buffer tube detent managed to release itself and the spring into the lower receiver of an AR PCC. I’ve never seen that before and don’t know where to start. Any ideas?
Posted by: Kratwurst at November 30, 2025 07:36 PM (fcDpY)
Castle nut not screwed down to correct thread depth? I am working off of memory one of the pieces that screws/threads in at the buffer tube should go over the edge of the detent to hold it in place
Posted by: blaster at November 30, 2025 08:09 PM (RoO7G)
Posted by: AoSHQ Celebrity News Bureau and Rumour Centre at November 30, 2025 08:09 PM (0sNs1)
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So... the weather's gonna be shitty the next couple days, but I'm taking my son's Hi Point PCC down to the range to wring it out and see what's what. I've shot it... a year or two ago, and it either FTF or jammed... then continued to FTF... even after the jam was cleared.
My memory might be.... bad.
But, after looking at the factory magazines again... there's something "not right" with them. Rounds should sit properly and not have much "wiggle room."
So I get to play with it....
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 30, 2025 08:09 PM (NwnyJ)
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Kratwurst, I defer to Idaho Spudboy's explanation of your problem. I assumed that your AR had a staked castle nut which not all ARs will have.
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 08:10 PM (BCwQW)
Posted by: blaster at November 30, 2025 08:10 PM (RoO7G)
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67 Thanks Whig. I wanted to avoid having to use heat when removing screws having been down that road before. Also the stripped screws road. Great idea on the nail polish! Thanks again.
Posted by: Charles Martel
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Not a problem. I am saving you from suffering my mistakes in the past. If you know the specific torque needed, fix it stick in that is fine. If you want something more adaptable, Wheeler sells a fat wrench calibrated in inch-pounds as do several others with competitive gear nowadays.
Cyber Monday is sometimes a good time to pick up such tools btw.
Aluminum is an unforgiving material compared to steel and for serious hunting purposes, consider getting steel scope rings, steel screws, and scope mount.
Those are generally a bit more, a bit heavier, but easier to deal with if you like to swap scopes, etc.
Don't use steel screws (or vice versa) with aluminum scope rings and mounts. In some cases, these can gall and be a pita to remove. If you must, make sure to thoroughly coat screw with loctite to minimize direct exposure of metal to metal.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 08:11 PM (WDjG6)
84Avoid any loctite that requires heat to remove unless you are toting a serious recoiling elephant gun.
I once had a 2nd hand motorcycle on which the previous owner had used red Loctite for the seat bolts. Removing the seat is the first step for most routine maintenance on a bike. Don't be that guy.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 30, 2025 08:12 PM (3nLb4)
85
Amy Schumer may be back on the market, fellas.
Posted by: AoSHQ Celebrity News Bureau and Rumour Centre at November 30, 2025 08:09 PM (0sNs1)
I'm not her type: Pudding.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 08:12 PM (O+H2/)
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Castle nut not screwed down to correct thread depth? I am working off of memory one of the pieces that screws/threads in at the buffer tube should go over the edge of the detent to hold it in place
Posted by: blaster
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Yeppers, You want that castle nut staked down. Some go belt and suspenders and use mild loctite in addition but really not necessary if you stake the castle nut to keep it from moving.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 08:13 PM (WDjG6)
I did just get an ad in one of my phone games for the Colt $100 rebate for optics-ready 1911s, though. (I need to get my rebate on the Python turned in.)
Otherwise, I'm grumpy, disgruntled, annoyed, uncomfortable, and generally disagreeable right now.
Posted by: GWB at November 30, 2025 08:14 PM (SH0ta)
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"Crawling slimy things terror-bent on destroying the world"
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Martini Farmer, magazines are expendable items. If you're having problems with the rounds not seating properly as you describe, I recommend discarding them IMMEDIATELY and getting replacements. Don't try to fix them yourself.
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 08:15 PM (BCwQW)
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I once had a 2nd hand motorcycle on which the previous owner had used red Loctite for the seat bolts. Removing the seat is the first step for most routine maintenance on a bike. Don't be that guy.
Posted by: Oddbob
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I found using a soldering iron worked okay for removing loctite of most grades as well as thermal expansion for rust stuck screws and small bolts. You can precisely aim the heat where you want it until it starts smoking.
I've used loctite green, in place of soft solder, for remounting military fixed sights on old bolt guns. Works okay on Mausers as you generally have to adjust sights on Mausers after a used barrel install.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 08:16 PM (WDjG6)
Posted by: fourseasons at November 30, 2025 08:17 PM (3ek7K)
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Huh. Next year, Voyager 1 will pass the one lightday distance from Earth.
Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 30, 2025 08:17 PM (jc0TO)
Thanks. PCC is blowback, I use Federal or Blazer brass, either 124 or 147 grain. 147 Blazer when failure occurred. Failed part was original equipment.
I probably screwed something up. Failure occurred after replacing rear breakdown pin detent spring. Castle nut had worked loose and stock rotated taking that spring with it. Replaced, tightened up with an AR armorer’s tool and then this started.
Posted by: Kratwurst at November 30, 2025 08:17 PM (fcDpY)
Do they still do turkey shoots? I remember them being a thing when I was younger
Posted by: blaster at November 30, 2025 08:18 PM (RoO7G)
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But, after looking at the factory magazines again... there's something "not right" with them. Rounds should sit properly and not have much "wiggle room."
So I get to play with it....
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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HiPoint will probably cover the mags if you call them and swap them for new ones pretty darn quick. After all, they are just over the river from KY.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 08:19 PM (WDjG6)
102Your higher end safes can get quite heavy and difficult to work with if you're a mover.
Northwest Tool has a crate dolly that is two heavy duty hydraulic jacks on wheels. One on each end of the safe, cinch two straps and one person can move a one ton safe by themselves.
Not for use on stairs. But very easy to maneuver.
Add a drop deck trailer and you have a business right there. No hernias, no crushed anything. Just drop the trailer deck roll the vault in, chain it down, lift the bed and Bob is your Uncle.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 30, 2025 08:25 PM (+4Cf6)
Easy. There was a donut in the holster and his hand resting on the gun pushed it against the trigger. C'mon, look at the guy.
I also do wonder (more seriously) if it was a universal fit kydex holster, and he pushed the gun in a way that moved the trigger.
Posted by: GWB at November 30, 2025 08:26 PM (HMAMI)
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Problem is,
He doesn’t know how he wants to carry and what is comfortable. Like me, it’s easier to adjust to something than to prefer.
Posted by: nurse ratched
If he’s unsure, maybe the first step is understanding where and when he will be carrying.
Appendix vs hip, IWB vs owb are influenced by that.
FWIW, Tulster profile is the most comfortable IWB holster I’ve had, and easy to take on/off quickly and discreetly. But he will have his own preference.
Posted by: Kratwurst at November 30, 2025 08:27 PM (fcDpY)
105
75 I need to get him a holster for his G19 for Christmas, any recs?
EDC holsters are a very personal and subjective choice. I would no sooner buy someone else a holster without their input than I would buy my wife a pair of shoes on my own judgement. That said, I have been very happy for quite a few years with my IWB from ttgunleather.com.
Posted by: Oddbob
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Almost everyone that carries a firearm for social purposes ends up with a box of holsters.
Nurse, your son might do well to go to a really big gunshop with a lot of used weapons because often the holsters are traded in with the firearm and most big gun trading stores end up with a bunch of used holsters lying around to see if they are roughly to one's liking.
A lot depends on whether how he chooses to carry. I would not care to have kydex rubbing up and down bare flesh from IWB (inside the waist band) or Appendix carry. Leather gives more comfort.
On a shoulder holster or OWB (outside the waist band), kydex is fine if you have stainless or nitrided steel (like Glock's Tennifer or S&W Melonite). Not so good on regular bluing, nickel, or Cerakote, etc.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 08:27 PM (WDjG6)
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99 That’s funny Whig! I got that wheeler fat wrench delivered yesterday in anticipation ! You are a f***ing genius!
Posted by: Charles Martel
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Heh. I borrowed Ace's time machine I guess. I've used the Fat Wrench for years since it came out because it was easier to use than ratchet type torque wrenches. I think Fix it Sticks are fine but I can't afford the freight on them when I have other solutions that work as good. I think the new FAT wrench is a bit more refined than the older model I have.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 08:30 PM (WDjG6)
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He doesn’t know how he wants to carry and what is comfortable. Like me, it’s easier to adjust to something than to prefer.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 30, 2025 08:21 PM (mT+6a)
Nurse, he might have more than one holster for his pistol, depending on what he wants to do with it. During my Iraq and Afghanistan deployments, I used three holsters for my one M9 Beretta. One was a cheap, simple belt holster for when I was on the base/FOB. One was a Safariland thigh holster for when I went outside the wire and had to do a lot of walking or dismounted activity at an objective. The third was a Blackhawk holster I attached to my body armor for the times when I would be inside a vehicle most of the time. The Safariland got in the way of the seat belt buckles inside a HMMWV or MRAP. I don't remember anyone over there who had one "do it all" holster for their sidearm.
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 08:32 PM (BCwQW)
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Almost everyone that carries a firearm for social purposes ends up with a box of holsters.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 08:27 PM (WDjG6)
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I keep mine in a milk crate.
The ones I use currently have their special place, but they do accumulate.
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I also do wonder (more seriously) if it was a universal fit kydex holster, and he pushed the gun in a way that moved the trigger.
Posted by: GWB
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If you want a bargain, I think AIM surplus was selling police trade in Sig 320's for under $300 (Black Friday price was $249 I think).
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 08:34 PM (WDjG6)
The ones I use currently have their special place, but they do accumulate.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
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I've found I prefer leather over kydex for the most part with simple retention straps. OWB, strong side.
But given my loss of grip on my right hand, I may have to start looking at practicing draws from left handed holsters using my left hand. Right now it is about twenty pounds stronger in grip strength than my right.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 08:38 PM (WDjG6)
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Someone offli e suggested a good gun belt. That way a holster has a fighting chance of being safe and effective.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 30, 2025 08:40 PM (mT+6a)
The ones I use currently have their special place, but they do accumulate.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
Oh, AH. Fwiw, I am seeing some 32 H&R magnum ammo out there and Charter Arms has a nifty 3 inch not so snubbie in 32 H&R called The Professional. Has a cylinder that holds 7 rounds with good sights.
About around $400 or so from Gunbroker FFL sellers new and in stock.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 08:41 PM (WDjG6)
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> HiPoint will probably cover the mags if you call them and swap them for new ones pretty darn quick. After all, they are just over the river from KY.
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Agree.
But... it's not my rifle. Don't know it that matters. But I will mention it to my son if I don't figure out the specific issue(s) with this thing.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 30, 2025 08:41 PM (NwnyJ)
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But given my loss of grip on my right hand, I may have to start looking at practicing draws from left handed holsters using my left hand. Right now it is about twenty pounds stronger in grip strength than my right.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 08:38 PM (WDjG6)
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I often practice with my non-dominant hand (left) and I'm not half bad. I also fenced with my left hand, and that threw a lot of people for a loop, most especially lefties.
My right hand (and wrist) is much stronger for various reasons, and so my preference for lighter calibers (like .32 Magnum) is firmly rooted in practicality.
Shot placement is king. Go with what you can control.
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111 Someone offli e suggested a good gun belt. That way a holster has a fighting chance of being safe and effective.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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Reinforced web if he likes that style or stiff leather about 1.5 inches wide. The leather of that width can be a problem for belt loops in some pants.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 08:45 PM (WDjG6)
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Someone offli e suggested a good gun belt. That way a holster has a fighting chance of being safe and effective.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 30, 2025 08:40 PM (mT+6a)
+1 to this. Most men's belts you get at Wal-Mart or Target won't be able to take the additional weight a sidearm and an extra mag or two will put on it.
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 08:45 PM (BCwQW)
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In a continuing list of really cool pistols I will never be able to afford:
Webley & Scott Model 1913 Navy semi-automatic pistol in .455 Auto (Best not to use in humid environments)
https://tinyurl.com/mtyymb4s
Webley Fosberry Model 1901 automatic pistol in .455
https://tinyurl.com/4yt6rezr
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 08:46 PM (rbvCR)
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Oh, AH. Fwiw, I am seeing some 32 H&R magnum ammo out there and Charter Arms has a nifty 3 inch not so snubbie in 32 H&R called The Professional. Has a cylinder that holds 7 rounds with good sights.
About around $400 or so from Gunbroker FFL sellers new and in stock.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 08:41 PM (WDjG6)
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I am very much aware of it.
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Nurse, concur on the gun belt. I have black leather roughly 2” belt if I am carrying a heavy gun OWB. It stiffens up the holster for a clean draw without the holster flopping around.
Posted by: RI Red at November 30, 2025 08:48 PM (LMRVO)
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I often practice with my non-dominant hand (left) and I'm not half bad. I also fenced with my left hand, and that threw a lot of people for a loop, most especially lefties.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
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Ah, you were in the Princess Bride, Inigo, wasn't it?
But seriously, I am going to try to go to the local indoor range and fire my 32 S&W and 32 ACPs along with 22 LR just for a human functions test.
I usually practiced shooting left hand but not drawing from a holster and that I would need to get a LH holster to do.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 08:48 PM (WDjG6)
121Reinforced web if he likes that style or stiff leather about 1.5 inches wide. The leather of that width can be a problem for belt loops in some pants.
You can also get belts that are made of two layers of leather with a metal or plastic stiffener sandwiched in between. I had one with a metal stay for a long time and fortunately never tried to wear it past TSA but my current one is just plain heavy leather.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 30, 2025 08:50 PM (3nLb4)
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Webley Fosberry Model 1901 automatic pistol in .455
https://tinyurl.com/4yt6rezr
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 08:46 PM (rbvCR)
If it's remembered at all, it's remembered as the pistol used to kill Miles Archer (Sam Spade's partner) in the "Maltese Falcon."
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 08:51 PM (BCwQW)
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Are any of the free shot timer apps for iPhone worth using for at-home dry fire drills?
Posted by: M. Gaga at November 30, 2025 08:51 PM (KiBMU)
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I usually practiced shooting left hand but not drawing from a holster and that I would need to get a LH holster to do.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 08:48 PM (WDjG6)
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For a while I carried in my left front pocket. It was convenient and comfortable, but I also knew that in a hurry, I would not have time to complete a transfer, so I practiced draw and shoot with my left hand.
You may want to consider that rig as pocket holsters don't care what pocket they are in.
But... it's not my rifle. Don't know it that matters. But I will mention it to my son if I don't figure out the specific issue(s) with this thing.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
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One thing that can cause feed lips to spread in mags made with thin metal is leaving them loaded for a long enough time. Never heard of that as a problem for Hi Point but never owned one or had one in my hand to examine.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 08:51 PM (WDjG6)
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I once had a 2nd hand motorcycle on which the previous owner had used red Loctite for the seat bolts. Removing the seat is the first step for most routine maintenance on a bike. Don't be that guy.
Posted by: Oddbob
Don't be the asshole that dips..DIPS every bolt used on a bike he built in red loc-tite and then bring it to me to fix. This one dude did that. Disassembling parts off the bike was a nightmare, and they were chrome nuts and bolts, AND the nuts were nyloc. I wanted to burn the bike on the lift.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 08:52 PM (snZF9)
128If it's remembered at all, it's remembered as the pistol used to kill Miles Archer (Sam Spade's partner) in the "Maltese Falcon."
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 08:51 PM (BCwQW)
Not sure about that, I do know it was the pistol Zed carried in Zardoz
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 08:53 PM (rbvCR)
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Range trip with Lazy Messenger went well yesterday.
Mostly doing .22 shooting, comparing the G44 and the TX-22. The G44 prints tighter groups, the TX-22 is more comfortable, just need to adjust the sights.
Also did some Dot Torture drills with my XD45, I'm just not great at going fast with .45s but slow fire, that gun fucking cooks.
130Are any of the free shot timer apps for iPhone worth using for at-home dry fire drills?
Never used one but I wouldn't they all be sound based? Not obvious to me how that would work with dry fire.
I have used the Strikeman(tm) system and found it unimpressive unless you're willing to pay for the upgrade.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 30, 2025 08:54 PM (3nLb4)
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The Armorer's Bench YouTube channel reports that Canadian Inglis made Browning High Power pistols are beginning to turn up in Ukraine. A look at one of the serial numbers says that this specimen was made in August 1945. It appears that with the introduction of the P320 platform to its military, the Canadians have released at least some stocks of reserve Browning High Powers to the Ukrainians.
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 08:55 PM (BCwQW)
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For a while I carried in my left front pocket. It was convenient and comfortable, but I also knew that in a hurry, I would not have time to complete a transfer, so I practiced draw and shoot with my left hand.
You may want to consider that rig as pocket holsters don't care what pocket they are in.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
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I have an old Nemesis pocket holster for that. Thanks. I have a 32 S&W Long snubbie, Rossi 68, loaded with hardcast SWC from Buffalo Bore in them. Plus a 32 S&W speed strip. While wadcutters would probably do as well, the SWC load better from speed loaders.
Right hand has dropped twenty pounds in grip strength since August when checked last week. Left hand is losing strength as well from nerve impingement and now general arm muscle weakening. January surgery date which gives me a chance to get a second opinion--both are top surgeons but the second opinion guy specializes in robo surgery and minimally invasive spinal surgery. We will see what he says about mid December.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 08:56 PM (WDjG6)
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I went down the rabbit hole with the Ar15. I was looking at all the different things and parts available to build them. Damn, I can't believe how much they changed in construction from years back. There used to be 2, the regular Ar15 and the CAR15. Not today, noooo, we got carbine length barrels and rifle length barrels, and now these mid length barrels and 3 different size gas blocks, and pencils, and M4 barrels, and holy shit....
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 08:59 PM (snZF9)
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Also did some Dot Torture drills with my XD45, I'm just not great at going fast with .45s but slow fire, that gun fucking cooks.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Yes, plus 14 rounds (13+1) of goodness. Mine has the rare thumb safety on it which ironically is almost exactly the same placement and size as a FM High Power (Argentian) which I also own. Worked for me when I carried it back when my across the street neighbor was a drug dealer with a pit bull that would get loose now and again and I had to walk my dog past the place.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 09:00 PM (WDjG6)
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98 Problem is,
He doesn’t know how he wants to carry and what is comfortable. Like me, it’s easier to adjust to something than to prefer.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 30, 2025 08:21 PM (mT+6a)
He's going to have experiment.
Start with Galco, Don Hume or CYA holsters and see what works for him. He will just accumulate a bunch of holsters if he wants to carry, like Whig says.
I have been reading your encyclopedic knowledge of guns for years ... and greatly appreciated all of the bestowed advice!
On that basis, I am making a plea for you to not yet give up on hunting if you truly enjoy it.
My father was much more able to resume upland bird hunting after both of his knees were replaced.
He eventually got an inoperable cancer in one leg, so he had an amputation above the knee. We still took him hunting and fishing. Shortly before he passed, we had him in a wheelchair in a boat at Lake Texoma for the striper run. We boated at least a 150 before calling it a day.
My brother and I were blessed with a wonderful father, so we schlepped him around for many years as payback for all of the times he schlepped us around as little kids.
We are both fairly large, strapping lads so there was no physical challenge in doing so.
I hope you have sons/buddies able to take you out if you still desire to. If not, I will come out and take you on a hunt if you want a last hurrah before you hang up your hunting gear for the last time.
I only pillage part time, the rest of the time I actually like to care for things.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 30, 2025 09:02 PM (HlyYF)
138116 Someone offli e suggested a good gun belt. That way a holster has a fighting chance of being safe and effective.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 30, 2025 08:40 PM (mT+6a)
+1 to this. Most men's belts you get at Wal-Mart or Target won't be able to take the additional weight a sidearm and an extra mag or two will put on it.
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 08:45 PM (BCwQW)
+2. Don't know if it's appropriate to namedrop a brand, but I have had really good luck with the Anson carry belt. They have a ratchet (hi, Nurse!) mechanism that allow small adjustments to their fit.
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The Armorer's Bench YouTube channel reports that Canadian Inglis made Browning High Power pistols are beginning to turn up in Ukraine. A look at one of the serial numbers says that this specimen was made in August 1945. It appears that with the introduction of the P320 platform to its military, the Canadians have released at least some stocks of reserve Browning High Powers to the Ukrainians.
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 08:55 PM (BCwQW)
For some reason I find that darkly funny.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 30, 2025 09:02 PM (P/woT)
140I went down the rabbit hole with the Ar15. I was looking at all the different things and parts available to build them. Damn, I can't believe how much they changed in construction from years back. There used to be 2, the regular Ar15 and the CAR15. Not today, noooo, we got carbine length barrels and rifle length barrels, and now these mid length barrels and 3 different size gas blocks, and pencils, and M4 barrels, and holy shit....
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 08:59 PM
The M16A1 style is still the best.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 30, 2025 09:03 PM (jc0TO)
I did just get an ad in one of my phone games for the Colt $100 rebate for optics-ready 1911s, though. (I need to get my rebate on the Python turned in.)
Otherwise, I'm grumpy, disgruntled, annoyed, uncomfortable, and generally disagreeable right now.
Posted by: GWB at November 30, 2025 08:14 PM (SH0ta)
Be prepared to wait awhile for that Colt rebate. I did the rebate for my Anaconda back in August and just received it a couple weeks ago.
Posted by: Arch Stanton at November 30, 2025 09:03 PM (xO+Bn)
142Not today, noooo, we got carbine length barrels and rifle length barrels, and now these mid length barrels and 3 different size gas blocks, and pencils, and M4 barrels, and holy shit....
ARs are Barbies for guys.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 30, 2025 09:03 PM (3nLb4)
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Not today, noooo, we got carbine length barrels and rifle length barrels, and now these mid length barrels and 3 different size gas blocks, and pencils, and M4 barrels, and holy shit....
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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By recent accounts, there are now over 30 million of them in the US. I can give some advice on building them as I built quite a few during the Obama years just to do it. Also have built in alternative cartridges like the 6.8 SPC, 6.5 Grendel, and 7.62x39.
For a mechanic such as you, building them is a piece of cake. The only thing to watch out for is if you are buying components from enough different sources, you can get tolerance creep enough to make consistent functioning an issue.
Better parts suppliers will often sell a matching bolt with the barrel which avoid the slight chance of too long or too short headspace.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 09:04 PM (WDjG6)
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For some reason I find that darkly funny.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 30, 2025 09:02 PM (P/woT)
I guess if I want an Inglis Hi-Power, I will have to go to Ukraine, and bribe an officer.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 09:04 PM (npFr7)
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Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 08:59 PM (snZF9)
And don't forget, you now have short stroke gas piston AR's (i.e. H&K 416/MR 556 types) in addition to the classic Stoner gas impingement system.
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 09:04 PM (BCwQW)
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115 111 Someone offli e suggested a good gun belt. That way a holster has a fighting chance of being safe and effective.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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Reinforced web if he likes that style or stiff leather about 1.5 inches wide. The leather of that width can be a problem for belt loops in some pants.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 08:45 PM
If your belt loops won’t support a firearm and a couple mags you need some other kind of pants?
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 09:05 PM (LHPAg)
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If your belt loops won’t support a firearm and a couple mags you need some other kind of pants?
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 09:05 PM (LHPAg)
Suspenders?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 09:06 PM (npFr7)
Pffft. You kids today with your fancy "forward assist."
Posted by: Oddbob at November 30, 2025 09:06 PM (3nLb4)
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There's a reason it's called "Barbie doll for men."
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 09:02 PM (BCwQW)
You're not frigging kidding. You can build these things for under $400 with the right sales. I remember you telling me how people were now building the "old style" ones. Shit man, I can't believe what I'm seeing out there.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 09:07 PM (snZF9)
150And don't forget, you now have short stroke gas piston AR's (i.e. H&K 416/MR 556 types) in addition to the classic Stoner gas impingement system.
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 09:04 PM
Don't go down the AR18 rabbit hole.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 30, 2025 09:07 PM (jc0TO)
151 My brother and I were blessed with a wonderful father, so we schlepped him around for many years as payback for all of the times he schlepped us around as little kids.
We are both fairly large, strapping lads so there was no physical challenge in doing so.
I hope you have sons/buddies able to take you out if you still desire to. If not, I will come out and take you on a hunt if you want a last hurrah before you hang up your hunting gear for the last time.
I only pillage part time, the rest of the time I actually like to care for things.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 30, 2025 09:02 PM (HlyYF)
Love that story, Pillage. It takes me back to the stuff I got to do with my dad before he passed. Wish we'd had more time with him.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 30, 2025 09:10 PM (mT+6a)
154It takes me back to the stuff I got to do with my dad before he passed. Wish we'd had more time with him.
I was always going to take my dad on a chartered fishing trip some day. And then "one day" came before "some day."
Posted by: Oddbob at November 30, 2025 09:11 PM (3nLb4)
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For a mechanic such as you, building them is a piece of cake. The only thing to watch out for is if you are buying components from enough different sources, you can get tolerance creep enough to make consistent functioning an issue.
Better parts suppliers will often sell a matching bolt with the barrel which avoid the slight chance of too long or too short headspace.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 09:04 PM (WDjG6)
I did shitloads of them back in the day. It was easier as far as parts selection. You had the good colt stuff, or really good govt supplier parts. Barrels all had chrome bores, BCGs all had chrome bores, etc. These days you really have to know your parts, or else you can build crap.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 09:11 PM (snZF9)
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I guess if I want an Inglis Hi-Power, I will have to go to Ukraine, and bribe an officer.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 09:04
Canada: We have military aid for you!
Ukraine: Great! Is it a hundred tanks? Maybe a dozen Patriot missile systems? You're going to deploy ten thousand troops?
Canada: Actually, its a couple of crates of WWII pistols. We don't want to take a chance on them falling into the hands of Albertan separatists.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 30, 2025 09:15 PM (P/woT)
160Not today, noooo, we got carbine length barrels and rifle length barrels, and now these mid length barrels and 3 different size gas blocks, and pencils, and M4 barrels, and holy shit....
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 08:59 PM (snZF9)
It's like Build-a-Bear now.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 09:15 PM (rbvCR)
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You're not frigging kidding. You can build these things for under $400 with the right sales. I remember you telling me how people were now building the "old style" ones. Shit man, I can't believe what I'm seeing out there.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 09:07 PM (snZF9)
There appears to be a trend of people trying to clone the GWOT M4 carbine with its KAC quad rail, vertical grip, Trijicon ACOG or Aimpoint M4 red dot. All of these are readily available except for the KAC quad rail, which is now out of production at Knight's Armament. As a result, the price of a real KAC quad rail has skyrocketed. There are others making quad rails (Troy, Midwest Industries), but KAC is the OG quad rail manufacturer for the US military.
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 09:17 PM (BCwQW)
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I only pillage part time, the rest of the time I actually like to care for things.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
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Right now, for any return to hunting fields, it depends on exactly what surgery I have, the fact I have to have cervical spine surgery is baked into the cake because of strength loss. The question is whether fusing multiple joints is the right answer which is why I am seeking a second opinion. Then, I will have to have full knee replacement as the joint itself is beginning to buckle from arthritis and been bone on bone for about ten years now.
I have enough low recoiling toys to shoot a bit outside of the immediate recovery range but a lot of time and remaining energy has been sucked up by dealing with insurance companies, doctors, etc. for the last several years.
Heck, I can be happy shooting 22 LR or air rifles if it comes down to it.
Right now, I have multiple herniated disks in my lumbar, cervical, and thoracic regions and just had to put off lumbar nerve ablation because the cervical spinal surgery must come first and I have to have a functioning spine to go through knee replacement. And so it goes.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 09:18 PM (WDjG6)
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No one ever needs a forward assist.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Air Force agreed with you but had to eventually succumb to what the Army wanted.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 09:19 PM (WDjG6)
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I still love those. I pick up modern ones with the floating hand guards and they feel like toys.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 09:13 PM (snZF9)
The clone M16A1s are actually better than the originals because the plastic handguards of today are far less prone to cracking on top than those of yesteryear. The steel and metal are arguably better too.
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 09:20 PM (BCwQW)
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 09:15 PM (rbvCR)
Its crazy, especially if you find deals. Bravo company is selling bare flat top uppers for $49 and it comes with the door and forward assist. They are sold as cosmetic blems, but there isn't a damn thing wrong with them. I found really nice sight post chrome lined carbine barrels for $100, chrome lined M4 barrels for $69, stripped aero lowers for $70. They are boom legos. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 09:21 PM (snZF9)
166I still love those. I pick up modern ones with the floating hand guards and they feel like toys.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 09:13 PM
I built one that weighs 4.5 pounds.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 30, 2025 09:24 PM (jc0TO)
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I don't know what's wrong with me, but i got another B&T. A really wierd one, KH9 Covert. The grip and magwell fold 90 degrees. It has a linear hammer and for some reason a decocker/safety.
I'm such a sucker for the wierd ones.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 30, 2025 09:25 PM (b4o9z)
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I did shitloads of them back in the day. It was easier as far as parts selection. You had the good colt stuff, or really good govt supplier parts. Barrels all had chrome bores, BCGs all had chrome bores, etc. These days you really have to know your parts, or else you can build crap.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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Nitrated steel for barrels is better than chrome nowadays unless you plan on rapid fire mag dumps. But good ole Chrome Moly is just fine if you aren't on the sea shore or in a jungle.
The whole industry has gotten away from what Mil Spec demanded, sometimes in a good way, sometimes bad.
Tooling to make them is better too. One trick if you want to accurize them is to lap the end of upper receiver for perfect match for the barrel.
I would also skip the military delta ring, etc. bullshit as there are better options nowadays with handguards and barrels.
The 20 inch barrel (aka rifle) is still the most reliable and softest shooting gas action compared with the shorter carbine or the pistol length gas systems. The latter two are kludges that have implications for parts breakage and rougher actions and you start getting into adjusting things.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 09:26 PM (WDjG6)
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I just got a 3.5 Tremor, gun thread guy. You could definitely do worse. Was holding out for a 5L but you can't beat the trim package, IMHO.
Posted by: Bumr50 at November 30, 2025 09:26 PM (+Li5R)
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Canada: Actually, its a couple of crates of WWII pistols. We don't want to take a chance on them falling into the hands of Albertan separatists.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 30, 2025 09:15 PM (P/woT)
The Armorer's Bench has tracked open source intel about what small arms are ending up in Ukraine. A lot of countries have dumped older, surplus weapons of all kinds on the Ukrainians for their use. When it comes to WWII pistols, you could do a lot worse than a Browning High Power, even 80+ years on.
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 09:26 PM (BCwQW)
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Not today, noooo, we got carbine length barrels and rifle length barrels, and now these mid length barrels and 3 different size gas blocks, and pencils, and M4 barrels, and holy shit....
ARs are Barbies for guys.
Posted by: Oddbob
More of a Mr. Potato Head.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 30, 2025 09:27 PM (Z5/Ih)
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A couple of years ago, after the battle of Bahkmut in Ukraine, I saw pictures of crates of Thompsons that the Soviets had stored under the city. It looked like they were brand new, still in their WWII shipping crates,
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 30, 2025 09:27 PM (P/woT)
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156 I am the Right Arm of the Free World.
Posted by: FN Fusil Automatique L�ger
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FN is getting worse in rep after cancelling the SCAR and multiple different handguns off and on. The question becomes when are you going to cancel it and when are the parts going to dry up for them.
H&K seems to be making a major effort to improve its image through actual customer service that I hear about.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 09:28 PM (WDjG6)
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I'm such a sucker for the wierd ones.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 30, 2025 09:25 PM (b4o9z)
That's B&T's specialty. I have a couple of their firearms myself. Definitely unique in the current market.
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 09:29 PM (BCwQW)
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The clone M16A1s are actually better than the originals because the plastic handguards of today are far less prone to cracking on top than those of yesteryear. The steel and metal are arguably better too.
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 09:20 PM (BCwQW)
Can't have them in jersey. Well, you can, but it can't have a bayonet lug, and the flash suppressor has to be replaced with a pinned muzzle brake, or at least anything thats not sold as a flash suppressor, so you can't have a true every last detail clone.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 09:29 PM (snZF9)
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Its crazy, especially if you find deals. Bravo company is selling bare flat top uppers for $49 and it comes with the door and forward assist. They are sold as cosmetic blems, but there isn't a damn thing wrong with them. I found really nice sight post chrome lined carbine barrels for $100, chrome lined M4 barrels for $69, stripped aero lowers for $70. They are boom legos. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division
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Plugs are available if you want no forward assist function.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 09:29 PM (WDjG6)
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Right now, I have multiple herniated disks in my lumbar, cervical, and thoracic regions and just had to put off lumbar nerve ablation because the cervical spinal surgery must come first and I have to have a functioning spine to go through knee replacement. And so it goes.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 09:18 PM (WDjG6)
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"Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology. We have the capability to make the world's first bionic man. Whig will be that man. Better than he was before. Better, stronger, faster."
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still love those. I pick up modern ones with the floating hand guards and they feel like toys.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 09:13 PM
I built one that weighs 4.5 pounds.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 30, 2025 09:24 PM
Do you remember your parts list? I would be interested in that build.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 09:32 PM (LHPAg)
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"Gentlemen, we can rebuild him. We have the technology. We have the capability to make the world's first bionic man. Whig will be that man. Better than he was before. Better, stronger, faster."
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd
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Before Covid I might have thought that about the capabilities of docs. Now, not so much.
At least insurance finally let me switch from a drug that was not working to stop my arthritis. But I will probably have to go off it for about two weeks before and after surgery according to the surgeon.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 09:33 PM (WDjG6)
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H&K seems to be making a major effort to improve its image through actual customer service that I hear about.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 09:28 PM (WDjG6)
That's because H&K is deliberately trying to move more manufacturing to the US and out of Germany, probably due to the increasing costs of doing business in Germany and with the Ukraine war sucking up all of the German production capacity.
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 09:33 PM (BCwQW)
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The Armorer's Bench has tracked open source intel about what small arms are ending up in Ukraine. A lot of countries have dumped older, surplus weapons of all kinds on the Ukrainians for their use. When it comes to WWII pistols, you could do a lot worse than a Browning High Power, even 80+ years on.
Posted by: Ed L
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I would be wanting a 10 gauge field shotgun given the problem with drones over there. I think drones and artillery are killing more troops than rifles and handguns.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 09:35 PM (WDjG6)
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I wish KK would make more in the US. We miss out on some cool things becasue of the import laws and the ATF seems to always find their rifles don't have "a sporting purpose" so you end up with pistols with 16" barrels and shit.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 30, 2025 09:35 PM (b4o9z)
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Thanks for a great Gun Thread, Weasel. Punching out for the night. See y'all in the Morning Report.
Posted by: Daffyd Thomas' great-great-great grandfather at November 30, 2025 09:35 PM (Wnv9h)
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OK, in tonight's Highway Patrol...
There is NO WAY any evidence gathered from the door-kicking at the garage would ever be admissible in a modern court. NO exigency, NO warrant, just a "Stupid guy won't answer a knock, so I get to busy things." Absolutely why we have a lot of the court decisions we do, including on use of force. *grumble*
Posted by: GWB at November 30, 2025 09:36 PM (U80Ru)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 30, 2025 09:36 PM (Wnv9h)
186Do you remember your parts list? I would be interested in that build.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 09:32 PM (LHPAg)
I will repost it on my Flikr page by next Gub thread. It is my version of a WWSD rifle.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 30, 2025 09:37 PM (jc0TO)
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That's because H&K is deliberately trying to move more manufacturing to the US and out of Germany, probably due to the increasing costs of doing business in Germany and with the Ukraine war sucking up all of the German production capacity.
Posted by: Ed L
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Could be. Britain destroyed its own gun industry and both Germany and France have seriously crippled their small arms industry for various reasons. Soft power should really be relabeled flaccid power for the Euros.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 09:37 PM (WDjG6)
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I built one that weighs 4.5 pounds.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 30, 2025 09:24 PM
Do you remember your parts list? I would be interested in that build.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 09:32 PM (LHPAg)
Eromero, a few years back, somebody came up with an AR setup called "What Would Stoner Do" which involved using the same design criteria Stoner had (a lightweight 5.56mm rifle w/ a 16" or 20" barrel), but using modern materials Stoner didn't have 70 years ago. If you chose the same things that went into the "WWSD" setup, the empty weight of the rifle was right around the 4.5 pound mark.
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 09:37 PM (BCwQW)
189Right now, I have multiple herniated disks in my lumbar, cervical, and thoracic regions and just had to put off lumbar nerve ablation because the cervical spinal surgery must come first and I have to have a functioning spine to go through knee replacement. And so it goes.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 09:18 PM
In that case, I am sending prayers for good surgical outcomes!
My knees are also down to bone-on-bone after three arthroscopic surgeries. I will have to have double replacements at some point.
My father, and then my brother, both had double knee replacements. Afterwards, they both said, "I wish I had done that sooner!"
The back surgeries are certainly a completely different animal. I have recently been taking care of my FIL due to horrible neck pain due to severe stenosis in his cervical vertebrae.
He is a tough man, but that pain almost wiped him out - while full of opiates. We are contemplating surgery, but that is not an easy call.
Hope you can get your spine to a usable AND pain manageable state.
Then do the knees.
Then climb Everest.
Or maybe just settle for two out of three!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 30, 2025 09:38 PM (HlyYF)
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182 I wish KK would make more in the US. We miss out on some cool things becasue of the import laws and the ATF seems to always find their rifles don't have "a sporting purpose" so you end up with pistols with 16" barrels and shit.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
Probably why Sig Sauer has the US portion wagging the tail of the whole operation now. Walther has probably come to similar conclusions.
Now, if we could just get Manhurin and Korth to come across the pond to make revolvers.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 09:39 PM (WDjG6)
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Under 5 lbs? Wow. I was surprised at the bone stock one coming in at just over 6...
Posted by: man at November 30, 2025 09:39 PM (XuXeR)
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If you want a bargain, I think AIM surplus was selling police trade in Sig 320's for under $300 (Black Friday price was $249 I think).
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 08:34 PM (WDjG6)
LOL, whig. I'm not interested in a P320. I am saving my pennies for other things. (But I did buy a bunch of .32 ACP from AIM Surplus a couple of weeks ago. It was still inexpensive.)
Posted by: GWB at November 30, 2025 09:39 PM (U80Ru)
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I built one that weighs 4.5 pounds.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 30, 2025 09:24 PM (jc0TO)
Wow!
I built a light one for my wife (she didn't like it), but I don't think it's close to 4.5 poiind!
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Oh, and since I mentioned .32 ACP...
AmmoSquared now has .32 you can add to your ammo 'banking.' I just made it 10% of my (now) bi-weekly buy.
Posted by: GWB at November 30, 2025 09:41 PM (Sk8yG)
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I would be wanting a 10 gauge field shotgun given the problem with drones over there. I think drones and artillery are killing more troops than rifles and handguns.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 09:35 PM (WDjG6)
Benelli has put out a prototype 12 gauge just for that purpose. Someone else has suggested dragging the AA-12 design out of mothballs and mounting it on AFV's as a point defense system against drones.
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 09:41 PM (BCwQW)
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I will repost it on my Flikr page by next Gub thread. It is my version of a WWSD rifle.
Posted by: toby928
Thank you. Remind me since old.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 09:42 PM (LHPAg)
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That's because H&K is deliberately trying to move more manufacturing to the US and out of Germany, probably due to the increasing costs of doing business in Germany and with the Ukraine war sucking up all of the German production capacity.
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 09:33 PM (BCwQW)
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Germany remains part of the global warming cult, so energy prices are destroying their manufacturing sector.
I for one welcome the on-shoring of venerable Euro arms manufacturers.
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The back surgeries are certainly a completely different animal. I have recently been taking care of my FIL due to horrible neck pain due to severe stenosis in his cervical vertebrae.
He is a tough man, but that pain almost wiped him out - while full of opiates. We are contemplating surgery, but that is not an easy call.
Hope you can get your spine to a usable AND pain manageable state.
Then do the knees.
Then climb Everest.
Or maybe just settle for two out of three!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
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Thanks for the kind wishes.
Back surgeries are a roll of the dice but fortunately I live close enough to a major metro area that I can get good surgeons and can find out their reps from my other numerous doctors. We will see what the second opinion surgeon says mid December I guess.
Friend of mine has a sister where the surgeon botched the first operation and had to do a revision surgery for free. Sister is still in tremendous pain.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 09:44 PM (WDjG6)
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I wish KK would make more in the US. We miss out on some cool things becasue of the import laws and the ATF seems to always find their rifles don't have "a sporting purpose" so you end up with pistols with 16" barrels and shit.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 30, 2025 09:35 PM (b4o9z)
James Reeves (TFB TV) interviewed the president of H&K USA at the 2025 SHOT show. The president of H&K USA said in that interview that he wanted to bring commercial versions of the G36 and MP7 to the US market. So the president of H&K USA is on your side.
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 09:45 PM (BCwQW)
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I can tell you right off the bat that I used a KE Arms monolithic lower, some kind of no-Forward assist upper, lightened BCG from Brownells, adjustable gas block, and a integral muzzle device barrel from Faxxon, specifically this one: https://tinyurl.com/bdevkft4
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 30, 2025 09:45 PM (jc0TO)
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194 Oh, and since I mentioned .32 ACP...
AmmoSquared now has .32 you can add to your ammo 'banking.' I just made it 10% of my (now) bi-weekly buy.
Posted by: GWB
Try centerfire systems in KY which has S&B 32 ACP for 5.99 per 25 round box. Aim Surplus did have it but I don't know if they do any longer but it was about the same price. $13 bucks per 50 rounds , albeit fmj, is pretty good for that cartridge.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 09:46 PM (WDjG6)
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 09:47 PM (WDjG6)
203I built a light one for my wife (she didn't like it), but I don't think it's close to 4.5 poiind!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 30, 2025 09:40 PM
I tried to convince my daughter of the benefit of short and light but she insisted on my building her a heavy M4 doorkicker.
And then she laughed when I included a bayonet for it.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 30, 2025 09:47 PM (jc0TO)
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Sheesh, this Texas time is killing me.
Thanxs Weasel for the thread. Goodnight all!
Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2025 09:48 PM (y3bZw)
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Friend of mine has a sister where the surgeon botched the first operation and had to do a revision surgery for free. Sister is still in tremendous pain.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 09:44 PM (WDjG6)
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My mother is weighing options on further surgeries vs just doping her to the gills so that she can hit the exit in relative comfort. YMMV.
I am not impressed with the medical profession, and after my wife pressed me to get a primary, fired the twit after less than a year because I have no need for pill-pushers. His replacement has been more amenable to reasoned discussion.
It helps that I live in a modestly-sized town where there are only a couple of hospitals so my retired nurse friend can give me the dirt on who is competent.
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The LGS I shoot at and transfer all my foolish purchases to is the one partly owned by James Reeves. I've never seen him there, but they show me all the stuff he gets for review and I've got to see some things that weren't even on sale yet.
I've bought a couple of things after he was done with the review video from them too.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 30, 2025 09:52 PM (b4o9z)
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Wait no, this one https://tinyurl.com/2k7577rb
I got the flash hider not the muzzle brake version.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 30, 2025 09:53 PM (jc0TO)
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Could be. Britain destroyed its own gun industry and both Germany and France have seriously crippled their small arms industry for various reasons. Soft power should really be relabeled flaccid power for the Euros.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 09:37 PM (WDjG6)
You know things are rough for the Brits when they have to go through another upgrade program for their unloved L85A2's to L85A3 standards. Everyone's hoping that their MOD does a better job when their "Project Grayburn" to replace the L85 series gets off the ground sometime next year.
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 09:53 PM (BCwQW)
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Time for me to call it a night. Thanks for hosting, Weasel!
Posted by: Ed L at November 30, 2025 09:54 PM (BCwQW)
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This BCG or close https://tinyurl.com/y43hse6n
But mine is chromed which is apparently not available any more.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 30, 2025 09:56 PM (jc0TO)
212Time for me to call it a night. Thanks for hosting, Weasel!
+1 that.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 30, 2025 09:56 PM (3nLb4)
213184 OK, in tonight's Highway Patrol...
There is NO WAY any evidence gathered from the door-kicking at the garage would ever be admissible in a modern court. NO exigency, NO warrant, just a "Stupid guy won't answer a knock, so I get to busy things." Absolutely why we have a lot of the court decisions we do, including on use of force. *grumble*
Posted by: GWB at November 30, 2025 09:36 PM (U80Ru)
My thought as well, GWB. I can just imagine a twentysomething RBG watching Highway Patrol and saying to herself, "yeah, we gotta get that shit stopped."
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163 No one ever needs a forward assist.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Air Force agreed with you but had to eventually succumb to what the Army wanted.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 09:19 PM (WDjG6)
I am fairly convinced the Army Ordnance actively hates the combat arms.
215I am fairly convinced the Army Ordnance actively hates the combat arms.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at November 30, 2025 09:58 PM
They improved everything by making it heavier.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 30, 2025 09:59 PM (jc0TO)
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Oh noes, Joes are bending their barrel breaking bands on MRE crates with them! Let's double the weight of the barrels!
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 30, 2025 10:01 PM (jc0TO)
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No one ever needs a forward assist.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Air Force agreed with you but had to eventually succumb to what the Army wanted.
Posted by: whig at November 30, 2025 09:19 PM (WDjG6)
The FN FAL didn't have the forward assist, but the Israeli version does.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 10:04 PM (snZF9)
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No ONT yet, so we persist. Thanks, Weasel, for the thread, and thanks to the Gub Threaders for another informative Sunday evening.
Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at November 30, 2025 10:19 PM (47diA)
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Brains for breakfast
Brains for lunch
Brains for dinner
Brains for brunch
All we ever eat are brains
Why can’t we have some guts
Posted by: Misfits at December 01, 2025 01:03 AM (4786I)
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Germany remains part of the global warming cult, so energy prices are destroying their manufacturing sector.
I for one welcome the on-shoring of venerable Euro arms manufacturers.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at November 30, 2025 09:43 PM (ZOv7s)
But we don’t make anything in this country anymore. So I am constantly told here.
Posted by: Cow Demon at December 01, 2025 01:05 AM (4786I)
Food Thread: Saturated Fat..The Antichrist, Or Just Tasty?
Yeah, I am not a trained food photographer, and I usually think about taking a photo only after I have begun eating, so the photo looks even worse than had I actually planned it. Nobody wants to look at food that I have pawed!
But that dish of Shrimp and Cannellini Beans looked damned good, so I took a flyer, and I was correct! It's in my semi-regular rotation, but I have been furiously reevaluating my entire world of shrimp cookery, so this was a radical departure from the norm.
As I have mentioned in the past...no more high heat for shrimp. Gentle heat for just the bare minimum works far better. These were cooked in butter on low heat for a few minutes, just until they got a bit of color. And when I boil shrimp I have discovered that putting them in simmering (salted) water, then simply turning off the heat and letting them poach for about 90 seconds is enough to cook them but leave them tender. No more rubber bands!
Give it a try; I'll bet you will be converted.
Oh, those beans? lightly brown some garlic in olive oil, them add the beans, some white wine, and whatever herbs you like. I am partial to thyme and oregano. And of course salt and pepper, but you knew that! Then cook them gently for a very long time, until the beans are almost broken down and have only a bit of structure. They become creamy and delicious!
What? A repeat? Well...yes, but it is a delicious dish, and I am constantly fiddling with it, so I figured I could plague you with my cooking compulsion.
If available by Christmas, many a holiday dinner table will likely feature a debate about saturated fat. That’s because it’s all but sure that the new dietary guidelines will break from the past when less saturated fat intake was recommended in favor of what RFK Jr. calls a “common sense” approach, stressing the need to consume “saturated fats, dairy, good meat, and fresh meat and vegetables.”
The reason this might be the subject of Christmas dinner debates is that, for the past 45 years, the dietary guidelines issued every five years have recommended that Americans eat less saturated fat because it is known to contribute to heart attacks, strokes and cardiovascular disease.
Or maybe it isn't known, and there has been a comprehensive effort to bullsh*t the American people for reasons that I can only guess at, but might be nothing other than graft and grift and the revolving door of government regulation --> private industry.
And stupidity and crap science. Never underestimate their effect on our health policy!
Here are Dildo's health guidelines with respect to diet. Eat a wide variety of foods that you cook yourself, trying not to use processed foods whenever possible. Maybe decrease carbohydrates, because there is some solid research that suggests they aren't great for us in large quantities. And exercise regularly, but more important, just be active.
But mostly enjoy yourself! Eat and drink what tastes good. Like Bourbon.
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I was excited to find this bottle last week, especially since I found it in an unexpected place...Wegmans! Who knew they had much of a selection!
I have read about this bourbon, but while it isn't a unicorn, I had never seen it anywhere, even in bourbon bars in this neck of the woods. And it wasn't even obscenely priced, which made it all the more pleasing.
Right up until I tasted it, and discovered that it is mostly hype. Is it good? Yes, it is a quality bourbon That I think is well worth $30-$35/bottle. But it was more than that -- almost double -- and for that price I want more complexity, an interesting aroma, and a lingering finish.
Coincidentally, Doof also found a bottle of it, but I will let him describe his experience:
Solid bourbon but nothing uniquely noteworthy. Good flavor, nice finish, but similar to many others. A bit overpriced in my opinion.
Yup!
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Jalapeño au Gratin is the excellent potato dish that was served on Friday night at the world famous Texas Moron Meet-up. Pete Bog and his lovely wife suggested it, prepped it, cooked it and, hopefully, ate some! I saw CowHorse Queen juggling some of the pans, so she was in the mix.
It was so good that I made it for Thanksgiving instead of mashed potatoes. I got a ration of sh*t from one of the brats for breaking tradition, but she also ate a ton of them, so...
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Great name for a dish! crunchy brown butter baked carrots is just...you know...carrots, but it does sound like fun.
On the other hand, I am becoming increasingly short-tempered with recipe writers who won't write confidently, and whimp out with bullshit, wishy-washy, weeny, weak-kneed crap like this:
3 tablespoons minced parsley, or a mix of herbs you like with carrots such as chives and dill, divided
It's your recipe! Write with authority! Or just chat about the food in long form. That's fine.
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A friend graciously gave me some genuine grown-in-the-USA garlic, and I am going to taste one clove and plant the rest, because my pathetic failure last year is an anomaly...right?
Send all of your extra antelope to: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com.
Rumor has it that the Bourbon Bubble is bursting. I have seen no evidence of decreasing prices, but maybe the bursting started somewhere else! I think the sweet spot is $40-$60 for excellent and interesting bottles, and bumping that to $100 gets you an incremental improvement in quality, but nothing mind-blowing. More than that and I think you are paying for hype and rarity, which may look good in your liquor cabinet, but doesn't translate to more quality in the bottle.
The problem...or the solution...is to buy lots of bourbon, take tasting notes, and eventually arrive at your favorites! It should take forty or fifty years, but it is worth it!
Only had enough turkey (and stuffing and cran sauce) for 2 meals, so did my Thanksgiving soup yesterday. The carcass, the gravy, and the sweet potatoes made a great base, and then there was the turkey left on the bones, fresh chopped celery and carrots not used, the unused wine, the remains of the green bean no glop casserole, and the last of the cherry apricot and amaretto fruit bread (with the oats and peanuts from the sweet potato casserole). If it was left, it went in. Extra salt and a ton of black pepper was added, and it was a resounding success.
And Thanksgiving is gone. Til next year. Family loved it, and our neighborhood bachelor thought my pumpkin pie "ice cream" pie was so good, it had to be bought from a bakery...ahhh, the joy of the 5 minute dish being a star.
Posted by: Nova Local at November 30, 2025 04:11 PM (tOcjL)
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Remember when Trans fats were declared bad and disappeared from the face of the earth?
Lot of baked goods got a lot worse.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 30, 2025 04:11 PM (bss/y)
15 I asked the guys this morning if they were tired of Thanksgiving leftovers. I told them I would be happy to cook something else today.
They are still happy with the leftovers.
Posted by: fourseasons at November 30, 2025 04:12 PM (3ek7K)
16
For tonight, it's burgers, air fried fries, 4 green salad (yes, apparently every store has greens on sale b/c no one eats green leaves on Thanksgiving - I got romaine, green leaf, arugula, and baby spinach cheap), and raspberries and grapes.
Since it's the 1st day of the new holiday season, I made my 2nd Muddy Buddy Chex mix for dessert. First (which was 1.5 boxes of Chex worth) didn't last 24 hours, so I expect the same for this one...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 30, 2025 04:13 PM (tOcjL)
17
Bluebell, and RMBS, I saw your request for the Greek Tea Cookies I mentioned last week. I found a couple of handwritten versions at Mom's, neither of which says "Greek Tea Cookies," but only "Tea Cookies." I am certain prior handwritten recipe cards said Greek.
Are they a Greek recipe? Who knows? I asked her where the recipe came from, and she said "Betty Crocker Better Homes and Gardens cookbook." Those are not the same thing, so I doubt I'll ever find the original. But they are really good, and I'll post the recipe.
18
I still have a pound of smoked turkey left. Lot’s of turkey sandwiches this week.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 30, 2025 04:13 PM (ZVgZ4)
19
Fatty meats are what the Lewis and Clark expedition craved. they ate a lot of very lean meats, deer, elk, antelope. Whenever they were able to get bear or buffalo, they feasted.
I love beef and pork fat. Wife always gives me hers when we have chops or steak.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide at November 30, 2025 04:14 PM (0aYVJ)
20
Both of my TG's are finished, so I'm preparing for the making of the turkey stock tomorrow. I started pulling out bags of bones, giblets, carcasses of multiple monster turkeys, etc., out of cold storage. The total bag count is about a dozen, and my freezers now seem positively roomy.
I have a 28 qt stockpot, but I'm not sure that will be big enough to contain all the turkey remnants and veg after roasting.
Come to think of it, this might more realistically be a FWP.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2025 04:14 PM (Riz8t)
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Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 30, 2025 04:09 PM (afKoR)
I misspoke. This is the first year we did not have turkey. We had a Kosher Chicken. It was much less trouble than a turkey for three people.
Posted by: FenelonSoije at November 30, 2025 04:16 PM (afKoR)
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Kind of a cheat Sunday for me, cooking-wise. Just a pot of premixed jambalaya with andouille sausage and shrimp. Boil, simmer for a while. Easy-peasy.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide at November 30, 2025 04:16 PM (0aYVJ)
23
"Give it a try; I'll bet you will be converted.", he says.
...but the instructions given don't even qualify for 'vague', and might as well be 'use the force, Luke'.
Posted by: rosignol at November 30, 2025 04:17 PM (mZYrr)
24
Mmmm, shrimp. I prefer to grill them but will house them - regardless of how cooked. Not tried poaching them. Winter here, good time to give that a go. Scampywife and Little no 1 have been snacking on raspberry, jalapeño jam - on pita chips with cream cheese. Not too shabby. Thanks for the food thread, CBD.
Posted by: scampydog at November 30, 2025 04:17 PM (41CYW)
25
Ham & bean soup in on, using the leftover ham from Thursday.
Pre-heating stove for corn bread.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2025 04:17 PM (3k5hk)
1 egg
3/4 cups sugar
2/3 cups cooking oil (Screw that, use butter)
2 Tablespoons orange juice
1 teaspoon each vanilla extract and grated orange peel
2 ¾ cups flour
1 teaspoon baking powder
½ teaspoon salt
In mixing bowl, beat 1 egg. Add sugar slowly. Add oil a little at a time, alternately with orange juice. Stir in grated orange peel and vanilla.
Add half of dry ingredients, mix until smooth. Stir in remaining dry ingredients. Turn out onto lightly floured board. Knead about five turns. Roll to 1/8 inch and cut. Bake 10-12 minutes at 350 degrees. Cool and frost. Makes 3 ½ dozen.
28
I made the sad discovery gout does not like turkey. Kids' friends are getting containers of frozen turkey slices to make sandwiches during finals so I can feel less guilt about not eating ten pounds of some very fine meat. The meal was a huge success, the liberal in law was well behaved, save for a few jibes at me because she utterly detests me for stealing her baby brother from her, but all in all the weekend was lovely!
Posted by: moki at November 30, 2025 04:20 PM (wLjpr)
*I just cream the butter and sugar, add the egg and juice and vanilla and orange peel, then mix in the dry ingredients. Don't know that it needs to be that complicated.
**You can frost and decorate with whatever frosting and whatnots that you like. I'm pretty simple, so I use a simple semi-stiff glaze made of orange juice and powdered sugar, a little food coloring.
30
Got the Misen nitrided carbon fry pan. Nonstick like Teflon, but doesn't scratch and can take high heat. Like carbon steel, but requires minimal seasoning (spritz of avocado oil) can cook acidic foods, no rusting, distributes heat evenly. Like cast iron but lighter, heats in 30-60 seconds using Medium/Low heat. Cools quickly when off heat
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 30, 2025 04:20 PM (wBaIH)
31
J left for China this morning, it’s just the kid and me. I think we are going to make salad with roasted chicken breast. We are both over the rich foods we ate Thursday and leftovers Friday. We ate veggie soup last night, but still not ready for anything that looks like a huge meal.
Posted by: Piper at November 30, 2025 04:20 PM (Wmg4n)
32
"On the other hand, I am becoming increasingly short-tempered with recipe writers who won't write confidently, and whimp out with bullshit, wishy-washy, weeny, weak-kneed crap like this:
3 tablespoons minced parsley, or a mix of herbs you like with carrots such as chives and dill, divided"
Ehhh, some folks are slavish to recipes, even when they don't work. Telling someone they can pick the herb their spouse likes vs the one he despises, and it will still work, is doing a service to those folks. It also gives options to those folks who can't imagine the variations possible or who worry that if they vary, it won't work. Now, they know three herbs that do work...but probably won't get peppermint or mint family for that recipe b/c that won't...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 30, 2025 04:21 PM (tOcjL)
33
Fun Fact: I'm 23 cans of SPAM tall. Measured at the SPAM Museum (in my hometown of Austin MN) last spring.
Posted by: Fritzy at November 30, 2025 04:21 PM (2GIh1)
Posted by: fourseasons at November 30, 2025 04:04 PM (3ek7K)
I was wondering what Yum yum meant on the previous thread....
You're in SW Wyoming ? You've mentioned driving into SLC to shop I think.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 04:22 PM (QGaXH)
35The meal was a huge success, the liberal in law was well behaved, save for a few jibes at me because she utterly detests me for stealing her baby brother from her, but all in all the weekend was lovely!
Yesterday, we had a TG dinner for our immediate family and my wife's extended family. There were about 25 people there, of whom 7 were under 3 and 54 were babies. It...was not quiet.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2025 04:22 PM (Riz8t)
36
We've been binging a youtube channel called The Yacht Chef. Very interesting stuff for me since I once worked *mumble* years ago as a line cook in fine dining.
Posted by: Bert G at November 30, 2025 04:23 PM (VARTN)
37
We gotta Thanksg e ring Email from Presdent Oba.a and if be anyone's wants a copy you can emialme. We loves Presdent Obama, do yew ??
Posted by: Mary ClCloggistein from Brattleboro, Vt at November 30, 2025 04:23 PM (OJGrG)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 30, 2025 04:23 PM (TfEf8)
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Yesterday, we had a TG dinner for our immediate family and my wife's extended family. There were about 25 people there, of whom 7 were under 3 and 54 were babies. It...was not quiet.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2025 04:22 PM (Riz8t)
This is some amazing Math, although I can see how certain adults could count for 10 babies' worth...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 30, 2025 04:23 PM (tOcjL)
40 We have the turkey carcasses in the freezer, one regular and one smoked.
We have a large stockpot and I want to make stock. Daughter-in-law makes stock and freezes the stock in mason jars.
Do any of you do that?
Posted by: fourseasons at November 30, 2025 04:24 PM (3ek7K)
41
I am sorry about your gout, Moki. That is such a painful condition. The first time my husband had an attack he thought he had broken his toe, he was in so much pain. I hope the oral meds help. He initially couldn't eat seafood but now that's ok. The only thing that's really a problem is any kind of alcohol. I guess it affects different people differently. Sorry about the turkey.
Posted by: FenelonSoije at November 30, 2025 04:24 PM (EDCMj)
42
Max Miller's Tasting History is all kinds of awesome.
My sister dropped by one day when I was watching and said "Oh, he's so hot!" I had to break it to her that he doesn't play on her team.
Posted by: Delurker at November 30, 2025 04:25 PM (NhiOW)
43Got the Misen nitrided carbon fry pan. Nonstick like Teflon, but doesn't scratch and can take high heat. Like carbon steel, but requires minimal seasoning (spritz of avocado oil) can cook acidic foods, no rusting, distributes heat evenly. Like cast iron but lighter, heats in 30-60 seconds using Medium/Low heat. Cools quickly when off heat
Please provide updates as to how it performs over time. I used to do ion implantation of nitrogen into ball bearings, the theory being that it improved wear resistance by forming a very hard surface layer. It will be interesting to see if this is approach works similarly.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2025 04:25 PM (Riz8t)
44
40
We have the turkey carcasses in the freezer, one regular and one smoked.
We have a large stockpot and I want to make stock. Daughter-in-law makes stock and freezes the stock in mason jars.
Do any of you do that?
Posted by: fourseasons at November 30, 2025 04:24 PM (3ek7K)
I just make it and use it, vs storing it...but I only ever have one turkey carcass at a time...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 30, 2025 04:25 PM (tOcjL)
45
When you slowly read the content, then realize there were no comments written at the bottom...🤦🏻♂️
Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at November 30, 2025 04:25 PM (t/66j)
46
2 Leftover chicken and rice tonight. Nothing special.
Posted by: Tuna at November 30, 2025 04:05 PM (lJ0H4)
I love chicken and rice. Used to always have it at Cracker Barrel but I don't think they have it anymore.
Now I'm thinking it's time for a road trip to CB. We goto the one in Victorville - a cool 75 miles from our little beach town....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 04:25 PM (QGaXH)
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39 Yesterday, we had a TG dinner for our immediate family and my wife's extended family. There were about 25 people there, of whom 7 were under 3 and 54 were babies. It...was not quiet.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2025 04:22 PM (Riz8t)
This is some amazing Math, although I can see how certain adults could count for 10 babies' worth...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 30, 2025 04:23 PM (tOcjL)
I just caught that math issue and now understand why we don't do it on this blog!
Posted by: moki at November 30, 2025 04:25 PM (wLjpr)
48 There were about 25 people there, of whom 7 were under 3 and 54 were babies. It...was not quiet.
D'Oh! 5 babies.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2025 04:26 PM (Riz8t)
49
The reason this might be the subject of Christmas dinner debates is that, for the past 45 years, the dietary guidelines issued every five years have recommended that Americans eat less saturated fat because it is known to contribute to heart attacks, strokes and cardiovascular disease.
________
More than 45 years. By the mid 60s they were preaching this crap at us. That's about when Allan Sherman sang "Had no gravy or potatahs/Cause the whole refrigeratahs/Full of polyunsaturated fats."
Posted by: Eeyore at November 30, 2025 04:27 PM (s0JqF)
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Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2025 04:26 PM (Riz8t)
LOL. So many babies I thought you had invited an orphanage 😉
Posted by: FenelonSoije at November 30, 2025 04:27 PM (lQ+/f)
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48 There were about 25 people there, of whom 7 were under 3 and 54 were babies. It...was not quiet.
D'Oh! 5 babies.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2025 04:26 PM (Riz8t)
Okay...I still liked my interpretation.
Posted by: Nova Local at November 30, 2025 04:28 PM (tOcjL)
52
tried bottled in bond old grandad friday. told on very good authority that it is basil hayden with less water. i would not have guessed. it is, as i prefer and why he broke it out, a high rye mash bill. sweet and peppery.
holiday was lamb chops, crab boiled baby new taters, cob corn steamed in the crab boil and little girl's mac n cheese. pre- table was sliced salted persian cukes, dried hard salami and parrano gouda.
since we bring it all to the 97yr old matriarch its gotta be simple.
Posted by: cmeat at November 30, 2025 04:28 PM (R11M+)
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42 Max Miller's Tasting History is all kinds of awesome.
My sister dropped by one day when I was watching and said "Oh, he's so hot!" I had to break it to her that he doesn't play on her team.
Posted by: Delurker at November 30, 2025
I love his shows.
Posted by: Piper at November 30, 2025 04:29 PM (OoFl2)
54
I did not know that brussel sprouts were baby pineapples.
They sure get better tasting as they grow up.
Learn something new every day at AOS!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 30, 2025 04:30 PM (HlyYF)
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35 ... of whom 7 were under 3 and 54 were babies. It...was not quiet.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2025 04:22 PM (Riz8t)
54 babies???OMG!
Where did you put them all???
And the diapers....the stench...it burns....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 04:33 PM (QGaXH)
56Food Thread: Saturated Fat..The Antichrist, Or Just Tasty?
embrace the healing power of "and"
Posted by: anachronda at November 30, 2025 04:34 PM (edU/H)
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 04:37 PM (W4k0Z)
59
The turkey is not gone yet. Made turkey pot pie for Friday, and turkey ala king for Saturday. I guess sandwiches are a go for today.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 30, 2025 04:38 PM (0U5gm)
6012 I reached my turkey threshold last night and froze all the leftovers.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 30, 2025 04:10 PM
What is this "turkey threshold" of which you speak? I am unfamiliar with that concept.
Bride of PI pulled off a Thanksgiving feast for 18 people this year. She then deserves a break from cooking, so I have been eating leftovers (happily).
All of the turkey is gone, so I am now working my way through the remaining honey-glazed ham.
P.S. Are the bees now recovered from their hive catastrophe? The FIVE pound jugs of honey were only $15 at the store yesterday.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 30, 2025 04:38 PM (HlyYF)
61
We have a large stockpot and I want to make stock. Daughter-in-law makes stock and freezes the stock in mason jars.
Do any of you do that?
Posted by: fourseasons at November 30, 2025 04:24 PM (3ek7K)
That's what I'm doing. I have a couple of quarts from the turkey, and I've got about another two or three quarts that I'll be making turkey vegetable soup with. And I'll probably freeze that in pints so I have it for later.
I should just can it, but I don't have time while I'm home for the weekend.
I was TAD to South Korea in the 80's and saw the black market Spam, mayonnaise, and other exotic delights for sale in town flea markets.
Saw in the video a brief flash of a Lovecraftian horror called Liver Loaf in a can. Dear God.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 30, 2025 04:38 PM (kpS4V)
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28 it is different for each individual. for me it's red meat, beer and shrimp. fowl and swine, spirits, the rest all good. it's tough testing though because of the pain when you choose wrong.
consider that rather than the turkeybird, it was the gravy- pretty much a no- no.
ice doesn't help much, nsaids can as well as tart cherry juice and turmeric. hydration and movement.
Posted by: cmeat at November 30, 2025 04:39 PM (R11M+)
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I'm going with Irish bangers and smashed potatoes with brown gravy tonight. Then pie. With ice cream. Because screw it.
Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 04:39 PM (xCU6M)
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59 The turkey is not gone yet. Made turkey pot pie for Friday, and turkey ala king for Saturday. I guess sandwiches are a go for today.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 30, 2025 04:38 PM (0U5gm)
Not that I ever have enough turkey for it anymore (20lbs in 2 MEALS!! Yes, there were 3 boys between 13-23, but still!), nor can I handle the dairy, but my spouse loved turkey tetrazzini, and it's an awesome way to get rid of any specialty mushrooms you might have bought for the green beans at the meal...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 30, 2025 04:39 PM (tOcjL)
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I made lobster wine risotto with mushrooms, peppers, and baby tomatoes last night for my mom and her BFF since they were 10 years old. The BFF moved to FL years ago and now comes up for thanksgiving.
Big fat lobster chunks. This would be a $75 entree in most restaurants. $350 at Per Se.
I nailed the ‘doneness’ and texture, but coulda used more seasoning. Lighter meats like seafood are tough to season right. Too much, and it overwhelms the meat. Too little, and it ends up a bit bland.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at November 30, 2025 04:39 PM (fv0Le)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2025 04:40 PM (3k5hk)
6824 Mmmm, shrimp. I prefer to grill them but will house them - regardless of how cooked. Not tried poaching them. Winter here, good time to give that a go. Scampywife and Little no 1 have been snacking on raspberry, jalapeño jam - on pita chips with cream cheese. Not too shabby. Thanks for the food thread, CBD.
Posted by: scampydog at November 30, 2025 04:17 PM
Surely you prefer shrimp scampy!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 30, 2025 04:40 PM (HlyYF)
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57 A bit of planning is no problem because we are blessed to be able to see the grandkids growing up.
Posted by: fourseasons at November 30, 2025 04:36 PM (3ek7K)
We don't have grands yet but wife is hoping.
Would love to do a summer/winter thing like our friend AOP does. Wyoming was a possibility due to no state income tax and proximity to home base in So. Cal.
Nevada is closer but not as scenic.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 04:41 PM (QGaXH)
70
Ace needs to give you a raise!
Posted by: fourseasons at November 30, 2025 04:04 PM (3ek7K)
75
Max Miller's Tasting History is all kinds of awesome.
My sister dropped by one day when I was watching and said "Oh, he's so hot!" I had to break it to her that he doesn't play on her team.
Posted by: Delurker at November 30, 2025
I love his shows.
Posted by: Piper
I still don't understand how he doesn't have a cooking show or a history show. His history is well researched. And he finds the ingredients to make some really ancient foods.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2025 04:43 PM (3k5hk)
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56 Food Thread: Saturated Fat..The Antichrist, Or Just Tasty?
embrace the healing power of "and"
Posted by: anachronda at November 30, 2025 04:34 PM (edU/H)
I'd have to ask Cannibal Bob about what the Antichrist would taste like, however...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 30, 2025 04:46 PM (ynpvh)
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I love beef and pork fat. Wife always gives me hers when we have chops or steak.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide at November 30, 2025 04:14 PM (0aYVJ)
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77 I love beef and pork fat. Wife always gives me hers when we have chops or steak.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide at November 30, 2025 04:14 PM (0aYVJ)
You married well!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 30, 2025 04:46 PM (HW7D1)
Sorta like he opposite of the nursery rhyme about Jack Sprat...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 30, 2025 04:48 PM (ynpvh)
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Just leftover turkey and ham for me tonight. My sister hosted thanksgiving dinner, but she can’t boil water. So she bought pre-made turkey and ham. It was better than it sounds.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at November 30, 2025 04:49 PM (fv0Le)
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78 77 I love beef and pork fat. Wife always gives me hers when we have chops or steak.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide at November 30, 2025 04:14 PM (0aYVJ)
You married well!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 30, 2025 04:46 PM (HW7D1)
Sorta like he opposite of the nursery rhyme about Jack Sprat...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 30, 2025 04:48 PM (ynpvh)
Yeah, the nursery rhyme was meant to be funny and unrealistic...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 30, 2025 04:49 PM (tOcjL)
81
Shrimp and beans with bourbon. A breakfast that will stick to your ribs on these cold days.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 04:53 PM (i+bC1)
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Do any of you do that?
Posted by: fourseasons at November 30, 2025 04:24 PM (3ek7K)
All the time! I make more than I need and freeze the rest. Having stock ready to go in the freezer is wonderful. I use plastic containers though, because Mason jars will break if you overfill them.
I agree about the plastic containers. I'm leery about the glass containers.
Posted by: fourseasons at November 30, 2025 04:56 PM (3ek7K)
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CBD Don't know if you have tried these 2 bourbons, or not, but they are WELL worth your money:
1.) LARCENY: 92 Proof, wheated, NO HEAT!
2.) EAGLE RARE: Aged 10 years, 90 PROOF, NO HEAT!
Eagle Rare is allocated and hard to find. In Florida, the mom and pops retailers try to get $90 to $120/ per bottle for it. The Big Box retailers usually have it for $40 to $50/bottle. I got lucky and found one bottle at Sam's club for $36.
Larceny usually goes for 25 to 32/Bottle.
Enjoy!
Posted by: Bill Dover at November 30, 2025 04:57 PM (P1K9H)
86
Having Lasagna tonight with some crusty garlic bread.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 30, 2025 04:57 PM (XV/Pl)
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I use plastic containers though, because Mason jars will break if you overfill them.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 30, 2025 04:54 PM (HW7D1)
So, don't overfill them!
*runs away, serpentine
Seriously, though, I don't have many plastic containers, so I just use the mason jar. Have to make sure I don't drop it though, and I *am* clumsy.
Posted by: scampydog at November 30, 2025 04:55 PM
Any success at deer camp yet?
I had a buddy and his daughter out for bow season. He bagged his first "bow" deer, which was a nice 8-pointer.
I found (smelled) a really big 10-pointer in one of my water holes so I couldn't determine cause of death. I assume it was the idiot neighbors to the east that wounded a deer and then couldn't track it. I truly hate to waste such a nice big buck!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 30, 2025 05:01 PM (HlyYF)
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43 Had it for about a month. The concept is all about the hardeness of the nitrited steel on a three-day pan. I seared a 1 3/4" strip steak in a cold pan, turned on to medium and flipped every 2 minutes, turning down to medium low after a few flips. Perfect medium rare in 10 minutes, no smoke nor grease platter, but a perfect even crust.
Cleans with a rinse of hot water, maybe a wipe with a sponge and dried on a the burner.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 30, 2025 05:02 PM (wBaIH)
90
I put Max Miller's "Tasting History" cookbook on my Christmas wish list. I especially enjoyed his wartime series; maybe I'm subconsciously preparing for hard times by watching shows about how people ate during wartime, the Great Depression, etc. I'm assuming he doesn't have any recipes for "long pig" for when times get REALLY bad.
Posted by: PabloD at November 30, 2025 05:02 PM (GALGA)
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Maybe decrease carbohydrates, because there is some solid research that suggests they aren't great for us in large quantities. -----------------
Quantify "large quantities."
Posted by: olddog in mo at November 30, 2025 05:05 PM (bQ4nt)
92Posted by: Bill Dover at November 30, 2025 04:57 PM (P1K9H)
Larceny is about $30-$25 around here.
Eagle Rare is allocated and stupidly expensive. However, I was chatting with the manager of my favorite store and he mentioned he had some in his office.
93
I’d trust a whiskey named “Old Fitzgerald” more if it was Irish whiskey. Just saying.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at November 30, 2025 05:06 PM (fv0Le)
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90 I put Max Miller's "Tasting History" cookbook on my Christmas wish list. I especially enjoyed his wartime series; maybe I'm subconsciously preparing for hard times by watching shows about how people ate during wartime, the Great Depression, etc. I'm assuming he doesn't have any recipes for "long pig" for when times get REALLY bad.
Posted by: PabloD at November 30, 2025 05:02 PM (GALGA)
Old ways are best.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 05:07 PM (i+bC1)
95
The Lewis and Clark expedition went absolutely nuts over beaver tail. I can't say I've had or know of anyone with the experience. Kind of curious.
Also shrimp. The more you mess with them beyond the basics of butter and maybe a touch of garlic, the further you get from the optimum.
Posted by: pawn at November 30, 2025 05:08 PM (sPsWv)
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FWP: I ask for the beer to be brought when the entree is brought and they bring it right away so it has plenty of time to warm up before I drink it.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 30, 2025 05:08 PM (hj+Ek)
97 Now that Thanksgiving is over it's time to think about Christmas cooking.
We do breakfast cooking all day. The grandkids are so excited about Santa. They love breakfast foods so that is what we cook for them all day.
Posted by: fourseasons at November 30, 2025 05:09 PM (3ek7K)
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Leftover turkey last night was used in Emeril's Turkey Tetrazzini recipe. Usually I go with turkey pie, so this was nice change.
Posted by: olddog in mo at November 30, 2025 05:09 PM (bQ4nt)
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I put Max Miller's "Tasting History" cookbook on my Christmas wish list. I especially enjoyed his wartime series; maybe I'm subconsciously preparing for hard times by watching shows about how people ate during wartime, the Great Depression, etc. I'm assuming he doesn't have any recipes for "long pig" for when times get REALLY bad.
Posted by: PabloD
SoaS, Hard Tack, Pemmican.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2025 05:11 PM (3k5hk)
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PI, yes - had venison steaks the previous two weekends. We went 2 for 4, both BiL and myself with 8pt. Saw a ton of deer, and the weather was relatively mild. Bummer you found one like that - always sucks to see that. Good luck!
Posted by: scampydog at November 30, 2025 05:13 PM (41CYW)
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Hot diggety! I finally started baking bread this week and it worked! (Never a sure thing with my cooking.) Nothing fancy, just the typical 'no-knead' white bread. The cast iron dutch oven worked perfectly: good crunchy crust with a tender interior. Better than any grocery store version. Great for transporting quantities of butter (grass fed). Also makes great toast with apple butter. There's something very satisfying about bread baking, besides the taste.
This week: caraway rye.
Posted by: JTB at November 30, 2025 05:13 PM (yTvNw)
102
Beaver tail is full of fat. Throw it on the fire and it's done when it cracks open. So I've heard.
Posted by: fd at November 30, 2025 05:13 PM (vFG9F)
103
I actually have some hard tack in my kitchen cabinet. I made it a few months ago, and it seems to be holding up quite nicely.
* Clack Clack *
Posted by: PabloD at November 30, 2025 05:13 PM (GALGA)
104
I actually have some hard tack in my kitchen cabinet. I made it a few months ago, and it seems to be holding up quite nicely.
* Clack Clack * Posted by: PabloD
*snort
Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2025 05:14 PM (3k5hk)
105
The Lewis and Clark expedition went absolutely nuts over beaver tail. I can't say I've had or know of anyone with the experience. Kind of curious.
Posted by: pawn at November 30, 2025 05:08 PM (sPsWv)
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‘The Paolo, he has had, how you say, molta tail and eaten molta beaver. Why you ask?”
— The Paolo.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at November 30, 2025 05:15 PM (fv0Le)
106
85 not a larceny fan. eagle rare is outstanding.
my go to is johnny drum (willets).
Posted by: cmeat at November 30, 2025 05:16 PM (R11M+)
107
Picked up a smoked turkey and pork butt at Eagles club Thursday. Son took the bird home with him and I reheated the butt and shredded it today. Froze 4lbs and 2lbs are going towards BBQ sandwiches tonight.
Got my mom's old Sunbeam sandwich toaster. Think it's around 60 years old and works like a champ.
Posted by: olddog in mo at November 30, 2025 05:16 PM (bQ4nt)
108But that dish of Shrimp and Cannellini Beans looked damned good
It does look good but, tiny. Like some part of a Euroland ten dish meal.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 30, 2025 05:18 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: cmeat at November 30, 2025 05:18 PM (R11M+)
11095 The Lewis and Clark expedition went absolutely nuts over beaver tail. I can't say I've had or know of anyone with the experience. Kind of curious.
Posted by: pawn at November 30, 2025 05:08 PM
My wife and I watched one of those shows where the people live in the most remote and cold places in Alaska.
One of the couples was a white guy with an Inuit wife. He trapped some beavers one day and brought the beaver tails in to his wife.
I don't know how they taste, but his wife started dancing around like a 3 y.o. on Christmas morning when you are just about to start opening the presents.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 30, 2025 05:18 PM (HlyYF)
111More than 45 years. By the mid 60s they were preaching this crap at us. That's about when Allan Sherman sang "Had no gravy or potatahs/Cause the whole refrigeratahs/Full of polyunsaturated fats."
Posted by: Eeyore at November 30, 2025 04:27 PM (s0JqF)
Didn't Allan Sherman die of a heart attack?
My personal note of fury is, "if it worked, we would be having fewer heart attacks, not more" Spoiler: we are having more heart attacks, not fewer.
It is like telling people to eat more carbs and be surprised when everyone gets fat.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 05:20 PM (rbvCR)
112
This has been a side dish favorite of all my family and friends.
Corn Salad - serve cold
2 cans whole kernal corn
1 cup green peppers - chopped fine
1/2 Cup red onion - chopped fine
2 cups shredded sharp cheddar cheese
1 cup mayonnaise - not miracle whip (that's gross)
1 large bag of chili cheese corn chips - coarsely crushed
Mix in everything but corn chips.
Fold in corn chips right B4 serving.
Posted by: Idlan at November 30, 2025 05:21 PM (BYMq/)
113
Eagle Rare is good stuff, but to me it tastes like every other BT bourbon. I swear they make one bourbon and sell it in different bottles. And yea, I would add Pappy to this too. Now, I’m not a big bourbon drinker, so maybe there’s very subtle flavors I’m missing. Maybe.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at November 30, 2025 05:22 PM (fv0Le)
114
“Ehhh, some folks are slavish to recipes, even when they don't work. Telling someone they can pick the herb their spouse likes vs the one he despises, and it will still work, is doing a service to those folks. It also gives options to those folks who can't imagine the variations possible or who worry that if they vary, it won't work.”
I agree. It would save a ton of cookbook space applying this theory. In fact you only need one.
Choose protein or vegetable of your choice, add protein or vegetable and spices your spouse enjoys. Cook in the way you like.
Posted by: Pete Bog at November 30, 2025 05:22 PM (pearg)
115Saw in the video a brief flash of a Lovecraftian horror called Liver Loaf in a can. Dear God.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 30, 2025 04:38 PM (kpS4V)
Leverpostej is probably one of the finest things to come in a can. Maybe Russian sprats in oil are better, but I doubt it.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 05:23 PM (rbvCR)
116
Oh, drain the corn or you will have a soggy mess.
Posted by: Idlan at November 30, 2025 05:23 PM (BYMq/)
117100 PI, yes - had venison steaks the previous two weekends. We went 2 for 4, both BiL and myself with 8pt. Saw a ton of deer, and the weather was relatively mild.
Posted by: scampydog at November 30, 2025 05:13 PM
Nice.
I don't often get my a$$ chewed by Bride of PI. However, she went down to the freezer in the basement about two months ago to get venison and was very disappointed that she was out.
I heard in no uncertain terms that I had better put at least one and perhaps two deer in the freezer this season!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 30, 2025 05:24 PM (HlyYF)
118
My new job is to maintain /recover lost weight. To that end I've baked a few loaves today, and visited the junk food aisle of the supermarket for a couple of treats.
Within reason, I'm going to operate on the theory all calories are good calories. Treat it as a nice change of pace. Will not shy away from bread with my meats.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 30, 2025 05:24 PM (sl73Y)
119
102 Beaver tail is full of fat. Throw it on the fire and it's done when it cracks open. So I've heard.
Posted by: fd
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Have tried it. Was gristly/ fatty.
Posted by: scampydog at November 30, 2025 05:25 PM (41CYW)
120
It is like telling people to eat more carbs and be surprised when everyone gets fat.
Posted by: Kindltot at November
You need carbs for fuel. You don’t need donuts. But whole grains, fruits and vegetables are important parts of the diet.
Posted by: Piper at November 30, 2025 05:27 PM (OoFl2)
121
115 Saw in the video a brief flash of a Lovecraftian horror called Liver Loaf in a can. Dear God.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 30, 2025 04:38 PM (kpS4V)
Leverpostej is probably one of the finest things to come in a can. Maybe Russian sprats in oil are better, but I doubt it.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 05:23 PM (rbvCR)
Any kind of liver any way you serve it is pretty good.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 05:27 PM (i+bC1)
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119 102 Beaver tail is full of fat. Throw it on the fire and it's done when it cracks open. So I've heard.
Posted by: fd
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Have tried it. Was gristly/ fatty.
Posted by: scampydog at November 30, 2025 05:25 PM (41CYW)
Can't imagine that would please my current palate, but I'll bet if I had been in the wilderness for several months, and cold, and fat-deprived, it would be about the best thing ever.
123
Anyone have experience with drambuie? I must have tasted it in a rusty nail cocktail but that was fifty years ago. I like scotch (preferably Islay single malts) so a scotch liqueur sipped neat could be interesting. Before I lay out 45 to 50 bucks for a bottle I thought I would get some Horde wisdom.
Posted by: JTB at November 30, 2025 05:28 PM (yTvNw)
124
I heard in no uncertain terms that I had better put at least one and perhaps two deer in the freezer this season!
Posted by: scampydog at November 30, 2025 05:29 PM (41CYW)
125 I'd have to ask Cannibal Bob about what the Antichrist would taste like, however...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 30, 2025 04:46 PM (ynpvh)
I suspect Deviled Ham!
Geddit?
Posted by: naturalfake at November 30, 2025 05:29 PM (iJfKG)
126Telling someone they can pick the herb their spouse likes vs the one he despises, and it will still work, is doing a service to those folks.
As some TV chef, maybe the Frugal Gourmet guy, put it "It's a recipe, not a prescription."
Posted by: Oddbob at November 30, 2025 05:30 PM (QJJ9L)
127You need carbs for fuel. You don’t need donuts. But whole grains, fruits and vegetables are important parts of the diet.
Posted by: Piper at November 30, 2025 05:27 PM (OoFl2)
True, but until very recently sugars and flour and cheetos counted as carbs since "calories are calories". Also the dietary standards pushed for the last 40 years have been really heavy on carbs. Carbs are cheap calories, but they will make you fat in excess.
"carbs are just sugar molecules holding hands" as I have been told.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 05:32 PM (rbvCR)
128
may i go off topic? seen at usa today on the net:
Sen. Cory Booker is officially off the market.
The 56-year-old senior senator from New Jersey tied the knot last week with two private ceremonies.
Booker and Alexis Lewis married in a courthouse ceremony on Nov. 24 officiated by Judge Julien Xavier Neals of the United State District Court of the District of New Jersey. The couple served pastries from Calandra's Bakery, as well as a vegan chocolate chip cookie dough cake from Papa Ganache Project in Matawan, New Jersey, Booker's office confirmed.
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 30, 2025 05:32 PM (CWTWj)
129
My new job is to maintain /recover lost weight. To that end I've baked a few loaves today, and visited the junk food aisle of the supermarket for a couple of treats.
Within reason, I'm going to operate on the theory all calories are good calories. Treat it as a nice change of pace. Will not shy away from bread with my meats.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 30, 2025 05:24
Please be careful with sugar. IIRC you are going through cancer. Sugar fuels cancer.
If I have not remembered correctly, forgive me. Also, I don't want to offend. Best wishes.
Posted by: Idlan at November 30, 2025 05:33 PM (teLVK)
130
Anyone have experience with drambuie? I must have tasted it in a rusty nail cocktail but that was fifty years ago. I like scotch (preferably Islay single malts) so a scotch liqueur sipped neat could be interesting. Before I lay out 45 to 50 bucks for a bottle I thought I would get some Horde wisdom.
Posted by: JTB at November 30, 2025 05:28 PM (yTvNw)
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It’s very sweet, too sweet for me to drink straight. It’s good in mixed drinks (Bobby Burns). If youre a big fan of Islay (as I am), then I suspect it’ll be too sweet for you too. Nice to add to coffees and served warm as a digestif. Just not my thing for sipping neat like I would Laphroaig.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at November 30, 2025 05:34 PM (fv0Le)
131
Can't imagine that would please my current palate, but I'll bet if I had been in the wilderness for several months, and cold, and fat-deprived, it would be about the best thing ever.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!
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Perfectly described. It didn't make me wretch, had several bites. Falls into the "once was enough category." Or as you said, emergency food.
Posted by: scampydog at November 30, 2025 05:34 PM (41CYW)
132 I continue to be amazed at the quality of Still Austin Cask Strength Rye and Cask Strength Bourbon.
Excellent for cocktails and sippin'.
They are a little hot but nothing to make you go crying to mama about.
Their bottled oil bond stuff still(?) proves elusive as the collector's apparently follow the trucks store to store and sweep the shelves. Grrrrrrr!
Their recent release of BinB Blue Corn Bourbon is impossible to find.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 30, 2025 05:34 PM (iJfKG)
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129 You need carbs for fuel. You don’t need donuts. But whole grains, fruits and vegetables are important parts of the diet.
Posted by: Piper at November 30, 2025 05:27 PM (OoFl2)
True, but until very recently sugars and flour and cheetos counted as carbs since "calories are calories". Also the dietary standards pushed for the last 40 years have been really heavy on carbs. Carbs are cheap calories, but they will make you fat in excess.
"carbs are just sugar molecules holding hands" as I have been told.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 05:32 PM (rbvCR)
They were heavy on carb servings, but once they flipped to fruits/veg at the top vs grains, they weren't nearly as heavy on the calories from carbs. Folks just didn't adjust to that change. I mean changing from all carb 100 calorie bread slices to 20 calorie green bean servings or 5 calories spinach servings does both more accurately reflect the carbs and the right calorie count from the carbs vs the old corporately paid for list...but folks kept eating the bread and skipping the veg...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 30, 2025 05:35 PM (tOcjL)
134Oddbob, remember the Galloping Gourmet, Graham Kerr? I remember enjoying his show as a very young child.
Somewhere I have a signed copy of his first book after he turned more health conscious.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 30, 2025 05:35 PM (QJJ9L)
135But mostly enjoy yourself! Eat and drink what tastes good. Like Bourbon. ++++
The leftovers march continues.
Tonight shall be turkey salad, stuffing and baked potatoes. I still have some mashed potatoes, but need to change it up.
136
We have settled on boneless, skinless chicken breast brushed with olive oil and then spicewalla garlic and herb seasoning, baked in the oven, sliced over salad with an apple cider vinaigrette and I will pop a few whole grain biscuits in the oven from the batch I made for TG. Tada, dinner.
Posted by: Piper at November 30, 2025 05:36 PM (OoFl2)
137
"...but I have been furiously reevaluating my entire world of shrimp cookery..."
Shrimp taste big!
Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2025 05:37 PM (y3bZw)
138
138 But mostly enjoy yourself! Eat and drink what tastes good. Like Bourbon.
++++
The leftovers march continues.
Tonight shall be turkey salad, stuffing and baked potatoes. I still have some mashed potatoes, but need to change it up.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 30, 2025 05:35 PM (Zp1WF)
At this point, take the mashed potato, add an egg or two (depending on the amount left) and the same amount of egg volume in flour (so 2-3 TB an egg) and form into patties and shallow fry in oil...and salt. Will taste way better than 4 day old mash at that point...either that, or bury it into a potato soup and use as the thickener...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 30, 2025 05:38 PM (tOcjL)
139
...Just not my thing for sipping neat like I would Laphroaig.
Posted by: Elric the Blade at November 30, 2025 05:34 PM (fv0Le)
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I like Laphroaig, but for the past several years, I have been moving away from Islay scotches in general. I have found that I more often prefer the smoother Highland scotches. I still find the peatiness of the Islays enjoyable, and Laphroaig is tops.
I first had it courtesy of a bar's scotch guy (whatever the scotch steward is called - I am sure there is a name for it). I said I wanted to feel like a boxer wrapped his gloves in peat and punched me in the mouth, but held back. The guy laughed and brought be a Laphroaig. I've kept it in rotation ever since.
140
Re: Drambuie - the rusty nail is one of my go-to drinks, but I've never tried the stuff straight. I just killed off the last of a bottle the other night, so I can't give you a report.
Posted by: PabloD at November 30, 2025 05:39 PM (GALGA)
141
I was on a vegetarian diet for a few years in my past. Try about 10. I still try to minimize red meat in my diet for some reason. I don't know why. I do love a good steak and home cooked cheese burgers are to die for.
Point is that I experimented a lot for finding meat substitutes for traditional dishes like lasagna and such.
I think my best effort was using black eyed peas as a substitute for ground beef in spaghetti sauce.
I made it for a few of my friends and they actually liked it.
Try it, you might be surprised.
Posted by: pawn at November 30, 2025 05:39 PM (sPsWv)
142
... At this point, take the mashed potato, add an egg or two (depending on the amount left) and the same amount of egg volume in flour (so 2-3 TB an egg) and form into patties and shallow fry in oil...and salt. ...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 30, 2025 05:38 PM (tOcjL)
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Imma try that. Thanks!
143
but folks kept eating the bread and skipping the veg...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 30, 2025
And you still need grains. Brown rice. Amaranth, quinoa, whole wheat bread (actual whole grain without a ton of added sugar, you have to watch your brands or make it yourself), whole wheat cous cous, all good choices, but a serving is the size of your tight fist, not the whole plate.
Posted by: Piper at November 30, 2025 05:41 PM (OoFl2)
144
Try it, you might be surprised.
Posted by: pawn at November 30, 2025 05:39 PM (sPsWv)
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That would be okay. I have no problem with meatless dishes, but I have never really been into substitutions for meat in other stuff. If it's meat-optional, I'll just make it without. If it not, then I'll make something else. There are a ton of really good vegetable dishes!
145
When I read a recipe and it calls for EVOO to fry something, I cringe. EVOO is for salad dressings.
Posted by: no one at November 30, 2025 05:42 PM (d6BF2)
146I like Laphroaig, but for the past several years, I have been moving away from Islay scotches in general.
I'm not a big Islay guy but my son shared a Lagavulin 16 that he bought as a wedding gift for himself and it was very nice. More smoky than peaty.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 30, 2025 05:42 PM (G7kqA)
147
Palates vary, but to mine, all bourbon is basically the same.
That's one reason I prefer rum. Some of the rums I prefer are actually bourbon-adjacent -- nice aged Barbados rums, generally distilled and aged at the Foursquare distillery. But there's a tremendous amount of variation, even within those Foursquare rums, compared to bourbon; because with rum, there are no rules.
And with bourbon, there's a ton of rules, in terms of terroir, mash bill, the nature of the barrel, etc.
And then there are great aged rums from Guyana and Trinidad -- completely unlike those Bajan rums, you wouldn't even think they're the same spirit.
Posted by: Pastafarian at November 30, 2025 05:43 PM (AeK+c)
148
148 One hard lesson I learned this past Thanksgiving:
My stomach and turkey loaf do not agree.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 30, 2025 05:42 PM (uZFV0)
Ummm, what is turkey loaf on Thanksgiving? Like a fake beef meatloaf?
What did they put in it?
Posted by: Nova Local at November 30, 2025 05:44 PM (tOcjL)
149
My mom used to always make extra anytime she did mashed potatoes so she could make potato cakes as Nova Local described. Good stuff.
I have a turkey in the freezer. Was invited for t-day meal so didn't cook it. I need to plan on a long weekend of cooking and freezing a bunch of food from the leftovers and cook it up this winter.
Posted by: PaleRider at November 30, 2025 05:44 PM (hhkIi)
150
... but folks kept eating the bread and skipping the veg...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 30, 2025 05:35 PM (tOcjL)
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A real shame. Well-cooked vegetables are an art form (one I am not particularly good at, but I can acknowledge my weakness as not inherent to the thing itself...). I had a fabulous fish dinner out once, but the vegetables were so good that they were the star of the plate. The owner came over to ask me how it was and I told him that the fish was grand, but that G-d did most of the work on it, and that the guy he had doing the veg was a real artist.
He went to the kitchen. A minute later, the chef came out and looked across the dining room at me and gave me a thumbs up. I don't think they hear that very often, but they *should*. Truly well done vegetables pull *everything* together.
151
133 ... Elric,
Thanks. If Drambuie is that sweet, I'll pass for now. I already have some Chartreuse and Saint Germaine elderflower liqueurs for sweet sipping. Lagavulin 16 and Laphroaig 10 will fill the scotch voids.
Posted by: JTB at November 30, 2025 05:45 PM (yTvNw)
152 Suffered a major failure at the Thanksgiving meal courtesy of my GP and-
naturalfake's Curiously Restricted Diet
I made gluten-free* Yorkshire Pudding, which is a satanic joke.
Very little puffing, hard outer "shell" and the fascinating thing zero flavor from the beef fat freshly rendered from the Prime Rib.
I'm not kidding Satan's Yorkshire Joke had no beef flavoring at all. it tasted just like a pancake! Somehow the gluten-free flour has the ability to repel all beefy goodness.
I was accused of having ruined Thanksgiving by one of the kiddos, buuuuuut I had no reply cuz I kinda felt the same way. A good YS is the highlight of any Prime Rib meal.
Anywho, that won't happen again.
*And it may have been a needless tragedy, as I suspect that I have neither a gluten nor lactose intolerance, buuuuut will follow my Doc's orders and make sure.
*sigh*
Posted by: naturalfake at November 30, 2025 05:45 PM (iJfKG)
153
110 95 The Lewis and Clark expedition went absolutely nuts over beaver tail. I can't say I've had or know of anyone with the experience. Kind of curious.
Posted by: pawn at November 30, 2025 05:08 PM
And they refused to eat salmon from what I've read...
Posted by: It's me donna at November 30, 2025 05:45 PM (VE6XX)
154
157
Suffered a major failure at the Thanksgiving meal courtesy of my GP and-
naturalfake's Curiously Restricted Diet
I made gluten-free* Yorkshire Pudding, which is a satanic joke.
Very little puffing, hard outer "shell" and the fascinating thing zero flavor from the beef fat freshly rendered from the Prime Rib.
I'm not kidding Satan's Yorkshire Joke had no beef flavoring at all. it tasted just like a pancake! Somehow the gluten-free flour has the ability to repel all beefy goodness.
I was accused of having ruined Thanksgiving by one of the kiddos, buuuuuut I had no reply cuz I kinda felt the same way. A good YS is the highlight of any Prime Rib meal.
Anywho, that won't happen again.
*And it may have been a needless tragedy, as I suspect that I have neither a gluten nor lactose intolerance, buuuuut will follow my Doc's orders and make sure.
*sigh*
Posted by: naturalfake at November 30, 2025 05:45 PM (iJfKG)
That sucks. I admit, that dish seems hard for folks. even with flour. In the past, I've had great ones and BAD ones. Mashed potato is just the easier gluten (and dairy) free option that always works...and you can just make beef gravy for that flavor...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 30, 2025 05:47 PM (tOcjL)
155
Boiled shrimp...Your 90 second method is a good start, but you will wind up with pretty tasteless shrimp. In Louisiana, you add something like Zataran's Crab Boil (in the old days you used pickling spices with salt, cayenne, onion, garlic, lemon, worchestershire & whatever else you like) bring to a boil & add your head-on shrimp. Here's where the 90 seconds comes in. As soon as the shrimp look like they are done, place the pot into a sink full of slushy ice. Stir to cool off the shrimp & stop cooking. Once the contents of the pot are no longer cooking, pull from the sink & let the shrimp sit in that spicy liquid until the shrimp are spiced to your taste, usually 25-30 minutes. Strain them out of the water & enjoy. They should be easy to peel. Don't forget to suck the heads.
Posted by: Dino58 at November 30, 2025 05:48 PM (FJ+O7)
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159 Nova, it's turkey turned into something like bologna.
Didn't taste right, didn't feel right in my mouth, and the day after Thanksgiving I couldn't eat anything. My stomach was on strike.
What's odd is that I never have any trouble with turkey deli slices.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 30, 2025 05:46 PM (uZFV0)
Disappointing, even in concept. Turkey made bologna sounds even more disappointing than turkey made bacon (which I admit, I have now eaten at my kid's dining hall a bit b/c they love that as the allergy breakfast option and it's okay). And that's before you get to taste.
Sorry that ruined your weekend...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 30, 2025 05:50 PM (tOcjL)
157
I use medium Olive Oil for frying. It says on the bottle "great for frying."
EVOO burns too easily for frying.
Posted by: no one at November 30, 2025 05:50 PM (d6BF2)
158
JTB, Drambuie (sp) is actually quite good, I always thought it had oranges mixed with it. I used to be able to find it at Walmart for $28.00 a bottle, then they stopped carrying it. Down here the big boxes.sell it for $40.00 which i think is too high. But it is tasty.
Posted by: Bill dover at November 30, 2025 05:52 PM (P1K9H)
159
*And it may have been a needless tragedy, as I suspect that I have neither a gluten nor lactose intolerance, buuuuut will follow my Doc's orders and make sure.
*sigh*
Posted by: naturalfake at November
Why does your doctor think you do?
Posted by: Piper at November 30, 2025 05:52 PM (OoFl2)
160
Try adding butter to it to raise the smoke-point
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 05:52 PM (rbvCR)
161
My Aunt Rosemary used to make Spam in red wine sauce. I never tried it but her daughters said it was pretty good.
Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at November 30, 2025 05:53 PM (dyL4B)
162
No leftovers. I am visiting family and got taken out to dinner. Great dinner. But no leftovers.
Posted by: no one at November 30, 2025 05:53 PM (d6BF2)
Ya, no. If you're good with the thumb the mud vein will come out when you thump the head off. But, if not, it's OK because the shucking tool will take care of it anyway.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 05:53 PM (Y7TJ9)
164
Beginners luck. Made choux pastry for cream puffs and filled them with chocolate almond whipped cream.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 30, 2025 05:55 PM (sDNVV)
165
Graham Kerr was really big on using clarified butter.
"A man was walking in the desert and came across a cricket ball. A little later he came across another cricket ball. A little while later he came across a castrated cricket."
He actually made that joke on TV.
Posted by: no one at November 30, 2025 05:55 PM (d6BF2)
It's sweetened with Highland Honey and i think there must be some citrus like maybe lemon involved, maybe a few other things but it comes off as very simple and pure. Not all tarted up like some Scotch Hooor!
No peat in the flavor.
It's a classic and one of the better liqueurs. Worth trying unless your liqueur adverse.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 30, 2025 05:56 PM (iJfKG)
167
One hard lesson I learned this past Thanksgiving:
My stomach and turkey loaf do not agree.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 30, 2025 05:42 PM (uZFV0)
Jeez.
The last turkey loaf I ate came out of a C Ration can, mumbly-mumbly years ago.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2025 05:56 PM (y3bZw)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 30, 2025 05:56 PM (ZRzmB)
16971 35 ... of whom 7 were under 3 and 54 were babies. It...was not quiet.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2025 04:22 PM (Riz8t)
You picked a fine time to leave me loose wheel,
With 400 children and cops in the field.
You picked a fine time to leave me Lucille
Four hundred children just crapped in the field!
Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2025 05:56 PM (Riz8t)
170
Back home
Besides turkey noodle soup had pumpkin roll left v over from Thanksgiving
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 05:56 PM (Ia/+0)
171 Laphroig quarter cask is sublime, best inexpensive is Ardbeg 10
Posted by: Auspex at November 30, 2025 05:57 PM (Y8DZL)
172I'm not a big Islay guy but my son shared a Lagavulin 16 that he bought as a wedding gift for himself and it was very nice. More smoky than peaty.
Yes, I've had that one, and it's great.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2025 05:58 PM (Riz8t)
173 *And it may have been a needless tragedy, as I suspect that I have neither a gluten nor lactose intolerance, buuuuut will follow my Doc's orders and make sure.
*sigh*
Posted by: naturalfake at November
Why does your doctor think you do?
Posted by: Piper at November 30, 2025 05:52 PM (OoFl2)
Without getting too specific, I've had some digestive system issues which seem to be getting worse.
My GP suggested going lactose and gluten free and a couple of other suggestions until I saw a specialist.
So, I did. I wound up getting a gastroscopy and colonoscopy which showed nothing. But, got some suggestions there as well.
So, I'm running through the restricted diet thing for another week or two and then will start going back on things to see what effect that has.
I strongly suspect i already know the issue, which surprised me. But, we'll see.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 30, 2025 06:04 PM (iJfKG)
Posted by: Paula Deen at November 30, 2025 06:04 PM (XQo4F)
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Hmmm. Different opinions about Drambuie. Might try a smaller bottle. I can always make a rusty nail cocktail if I don't like it neat.
Posted by: JTB at November 30, 2025 06:04 PM (yTvNw)
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I strongly suspect i already know the issue, which surprised me. But, we'll see.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 30
Fingers crossed it’s easily resolved for you. Sometimes you have to trust your gut, no pun intended. 😂
Posted by: Piper at November 30, 2025 06:06 PM (pZEOD)
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“Here are Dildo's health guidelines with respect to diet. Eat a wide variety of foods that you cook yourself, trying not to use processed foods whenever possible. Maybe decrease carbohydrates, because there is some solid research that suggests they aren't great for us in large quantities. And exercise regularly, but more important, just be active.“
And grasp the truth: you will die.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 06:07 PM (4786I)
Ya, no. If you're good with the thumb the mud vein will come out when you thump the head off. But, if not, it's OK because the shucking tool will take care of it anyway.
You can use a peeling tool for raw shrimp, use your fingers for boiled shrimp.The vein is in the tail, the head is full of fat.
Posted by: Dino58 at November 30, 2025 06:07 PM (FJ+O7)
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My son was here over the weekend. Combined with the Thanksgiving dinner and then his proclivities for "pub-grub" I'm sort of sick to my stomach.
Hot broth sounds good tonight.
But, first, Bourbon.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 30, 2025 06:07 PM (NwnyJ)
180
I might miss the gubthread, so SigSauer Romeo 5 Gen II Red Dot. Less than $100 with coupons at Academy.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 06:08 PM (i+bC1)
181
JTB, you might like this concoction. Orange rind, cubes of ginger and some sugar added to a pint of brandy. Let age for a couple of weeks to a month.
Definitely sippable.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 30, 2025 06:08 PM (sDNVV)
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Drambuie is awesome but I can understand why some people don't like it like it as much as other liqueurs and cognacs.
It occupies its own domain in the taste matrix. Very unique and kind of in your face about it.
Posted by: pawn at November 30, 2025 06:10 PM (sPsWv)
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192 ... "you might like this concoction. Orange rind, cubes of ginger and some sugar added to a pint of brandy. Let age for a couple of weeks to a month.
Definitely sippable."
Hi Ben Had,
Thanks, that sounds interesting. And I have plenty of brandy to spare for the experiment. (I have more booze than I will drink in a lifetime, mostly gifts received over the years.)
Posted by: JTB at November 30, 2025 06:14 PM (yTvNw)
Posted by: Oddbob at November 30, 2025 06:15 PM (3nLb4)
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Yesterday I braised corned beef that has been in the freezer since I bought it 4-5 years ago. It actually turned out pretty good. I've been going through stuff in the freezer and seeing what I've forgotten about.
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at November 30, 2025 06:16 PM (FMtrg)
187
Turkey pot pie for dinner tonight. Maybe I'll make soup for lunch tomorrow.
Storing broth: freezing is good with decent head space in a glass jar (or plastic) but you can also freeze in an ice cube tray and then store in a plastics bag. I got a Presto Electric Canner last year and it's really convenient for small batch pressure canning so that's what I'll be doing as soon as the jars are washed.
Posted by: ChE99 at November 30, 2025 06:19 PM (bLGb+)
Not me. We had a big Wormwood bush growing in the back forty years ago, when I put a chainsaw to it, the odor/fumes coming from the sawdust smelled like Listerine on steroids. Nasty stuff. No good.
Posted by: Maj. Healey Supports The McBouncer at November 30, 2025 06:19 PM (abIsI)
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Greetings and good evening, everyone! The turkey was finished off last night to tonight's dinner was from a favorite pizza restaurant. Life is good.
Posted by: NR Pax at November 30, 2025 06:20 PM (7xrfc)
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I put up a couple of jars of the brandy at the same time I make the white peachello.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 30, 2025 06:20 PM (sDNVV)
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 30, 2025 06:23 PM (XQo4F)
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In a tavern where spirits run free,
A fellow sipped Drambuie with glee.
With a smile and a cheer,
He toasted all near,
"Good flavor, good friends, that’s the key!"
Posted by: But I'm not muldoon at November 30, 2025 06:26 PM (XQo4F)
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Real men don't drink foofoo drinks. Straight bourbon or GTFouta here.
Posted by: Maj. Healey Supports The McBouncer at November 30, 2025 06:26 PM (abIsI)
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 06:28 PM (Ia/+0)
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Just had a bowl of broccoli cheese soup I made from scratch. Yes, it’s a mundane, lowly dish…but after tasting it mid-simmer and realizing it tasted flat, I added about an eighth tsp. of cayenne, and roughly equal nutmeg…and POOF! Magic was made.
Posted by: kallisto at November 30, 2025 06:29 PM (x2rZg)
198 Oh! and absinthe can have thujone in it and you can buy it here in the good ole USA.
Just look around for a high quality absinthe.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 30, 2025 06:29 PM (iJfKG)
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 06:29 PM (Ia/+0)
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The recipe called for tarragon and thyme, which was nice. The tarragon imparted a lovely bouquet to the soup. But I needed a flavor boost, so out came the rusty spices!
Posted by: kallisto at November 30, 2025 06:30 PM (x2rZg)
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I made gingerbread cake with cream cheese frosting for Thanksgiving and it was fantastic! Although it turned out well, this experience has convinced me to invest in a stand mixer. The hand mixer was not up to the task of homemade frosting.
Yesterday I made chili & beans for a couple of my cousins. I added a bit of cocoa as several people here talked about awhile ago, and I thought it worked really well. I made pumpkin cornbread to go with it, and that was pretty excellent too.
A great weekend of food, but as usual I did not stop at one day of indulgence. Chili is a great food to get me back on track though, and I've got enough to get me through the week.
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 06:41 PM (Ia/+0)
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Food related. We are honorary aunt and uncle to the daughter of dear friends. She got married a couple of weeks ago. (How is that possible? Just last week she was a toddler.) She and her hubby are Tolkien fans. Their wedding cake looked like Bag End in the Shire. Part of our gift was a collection of cook books including three based on food in The Hobbit and LOTR. I was informed that he has already asked to try a couple of the recipes now that they are back from the honeymoon.
The contagion spreads. (Evil laughter echoes in the background.)
Posted by: JTB at November 30, 2025 06:42 PM (yTvNw)
Posted by: Ben Had at November 30, 2025 06:45 PM (sDNVV)
211Posted by: JTB at November 30, 2025 05:28 PM (yTvNw)
I think I used Drambuie to make a cheesecake once. Or maybe Cointreau…??
Posted by: kallisto at November 30, 2025 06:46 PM (gACKv)
212
Fun Fact: I'm 23 cans of SPAM tall. Measured at the SPAM Museum (in my hometown of Austin MN) last spring.
Posted by: Fritzy at November 30,
Stacked long side up or short side up?
Posted by: From about That Time at November 30, 2025 06:46 PM (sl73Y)
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Without getting too specific, I've had some digestive system issues which seem to be getting worse.
My GP suggested going lactose and gluten free and a couple of other suggestions until I saw a specialist.
So, I did. I wound up getting a gastroscopy and colonoscopy which showed nothing. But, got some suggestions there as well.
So, I'm running through the restricted diet thing for another week or two and then will start going back on things to see what effect that has.
I strongly suspect i already know the issue, which surprised me. But, we'll see.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 30, 2025 06:04 PM (iJfKG)
A different allergy entirely? Hopefully not the alpha gal one?
Posted by: Nova Local at November 30, 2025 06:46 PM (tOcjL)
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212 Just had a bowl of broccoli cheese soup I made from scratch. Yes, it’s a mundane, lowly dish…but after tasting it mid-simmer and realizing it tasted flat, I added about an eighth tsp. of cayenne, and roughly equal nutmeg…and POOF! Magic was made.
Posted by: kallisto at November 30, 2025 06:29 PM (x2rZg)
It's amazing how a soup can perk up with the right amount of heat (I use black pepper, myself, although I have gone for cayenne if the need is high) or spice...it's not always (or even usually) a salting problem...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 30, 2025 06:48 PM (tOcjL)
215A different allergy entirely? Hopefully not the alpha gal one?
Posted by: Nova Local at November 30, 2025 06:46 PM (tOcjL)
No, no meat allergy.
Thank God!
I think we need to develop a tick-borne lentil allergy to get back Our Would-Be Vegan Tyrants.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 30, 2025 06:49 PM (iJfKG)
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231 A different allergy entirely? Hopefully not the alpha gal one?
Posted by: Nova Local at November 30, 2025 06:46 PM (tOcjL)
No, no meat allergy.
Thank God!
I think we need to develop a tick-borne lentil allergy to get back Our Would-Be Vegan Tyrants.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 30, 2025 06:49 PM (iJfKG)
But you think it's a food group, and not an internal issue?
Posted by: Nova Local at November 30, 2025 06:50 PM (tOcjL)
217Chili is a great food to get me back on track though, and I've got enough to get me through the week.
Yesterday was chili day here as well. Great cold weather food!
I didn’t have lots of T’giving leftovers because I was guest at someone house. Whatever the hostess sent us home with was gone by Friday night.
Posted by: kallisto at November 30, 2025 06:51 PM (LxjM9)
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CBD, thank you for this thread. Great ideas for those of us that love to cook and inspiration for those that want to give it a try.
Cheers, Good Sir.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 30, 2025 06:52 PM (sDNVV)
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232 Nova: i personally just rediscovered black pepper.
Found I love it on buffalo wings. Works on other entrees as well. I always look for coarse-ground.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 30, 2025 06:50 PM (uZFV0)
I love black pepper, like I love salt...I also like hot red pepper flake as my add to Italian sauces/dishes, especially ratatouille and pasta sauce. No pizza here for me, so no shaking it there (although that's probably where I grew to love it)...cayenne is 3rd ranked in this house, but it does get used (I prefer it to adding Tabasco b/c there's no vinegar add in I may not want)...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 30, 2025 06:53 PM (tOcjL)
220It's amazing how a soup can perk up with the right amount of heat (I use black pepper, myself, although I have gone for cayenne if the need is high) or spice...it's not always (or even usually) a salting problem...
You know how you said upthread that some people were slavish to recipes? That was me til about 3 years ago.
A combo of having to cook on demand, realizing some recipes just sucked, and reading this Food Thread gave me the confidence to branch out, and tweak the recipe and discover new horizons in food prep
Posted by: kallisto at November 30, 2025 06:55 PM (/1ldg)
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Yes, the Morons have helped me become a better cook!
Hat tip to you all
Posted by: kallisto at November 30, 2025 06:56 PM (/1ldg)
222But you think it's a food group, and not an internal issue?
Posted by: Nova Local at November 30, 2025 06:50 PM (tOcjL)
No, fortunately it's not an internal issue.
But, you have to check those things out first. So, that's done.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 30, 2025 06:56 PM (iJfKG)
*sniff* I would never drink a scotch that I can pronounce.
-- Scotch snobs everywhere
Posted by: Oddbob at November 30, 2025 06:56 PM (3nLb4)
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237 It's amazing how a soup can perk up with the right amount of heat (I use black pepper, myself, although I have gone for cayenne if the need is high) or spice...it's not always (or even usually) a salting problem...
You know how you said upthread that some people were slavish to recipes? That was me til about 3 years ago.
A combo of having to cook on demand, realizing some recipes just sucked, and reading this Food Thread gave me the confidence to branch out, and tweak the recipe and discover new horizons in food prep
Posted by: kallisto at November 30, 2025 06:55 PM (/1ldg)
Then my job here is done...but I guess I'll still come back next week
Recipes are guidelines (and idea inspirations) only...you can color outside the lines in any way you want, and the dish will probably still work and might be even better...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 30, 2025 06:56 PM (tOcjL)
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239 But you think it's a food group, and not an internal issue?
Posted by: Nova Local at November 30, 2025 06:50 PM (tOcjL)
No, fortunately it's not an internal issue.
But, you have to check those things out first. So, that's done.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 30, 2025 06:56 PM (iJfKG)
Yup, that was me before I got allergy #1 diagnosed...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 30, 2025 06:57 PM (tOcjL)
226Yesterday was chili day here as well. Great cold weather food!
I just took a small roast out of the freezer to thaw. Going to dice it up and make chili tomorrow or the next day. Still undecided if I'm brave enough to try the cocoa suggestion.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 30, 2025 06:58 PM (3nLb4)
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When making soup I've found that adding fresh cracked black pepper makes a big difference. Also, a tablespoon of vinegar, white or apple cider vinegar, in a big pot brings out a livelier flavor from the veggies. If I forget the vinegar when cooking, I add a teaspoon or so for the bowl during reheating.
Posted by: JTB at November 30, 2025 06:59 PM (yTvNw)
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I looked up Drambuie cheesecake. It turns out that was not the one I made, it was Cointreau. But holy crap, does this one recipe look good:
Drambuie cheesecake with chocolate and poached pears
Posted by: kallisto at November 30, 2025 07:00 PM (x2rZg)
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So the beans are precooked, I suppose? Before they are recooked to perfection in olive oil, garlic, and wine?
Posted by: Victoria at November 30, 2025 07:02 PM (oGX31)
Posted by: Ben Had at November 30, 2025 07:02 PM (sDNVV)
231day. Still undecided if I'm brave enough to try the cocoa suggestion.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 30, 2025 06:58 PM (3nLb4)
Years ago I got this chili at the Farmers Market that turned out to be excellent. I asked the vendor what made it so good, they said, ‘’chocolate’. But I think they used melted semisweet or dark.
Posted by: kallisto at November 30, 2025 07:03 PM (x2rZg)
232
Tuna, with brandy or bourbon?
Posted by: Ben Had
Whiskey
Posted by: Tuna at November 30, 2025 07:03 PM (lJ0H4)
Posted by: Ben Had at November 30, 2025 07:04 PM (sDNVV)
234Posted by: JTB at November 30, 2025 06:59 PM (yTvNw)
IIRC, you are Lebanese?
My Lebanese friend of blessed memory was a great cook, she had her own restaurant for a while. One day I told her the soup I was making was lacking something, she said: just add some cracked black pepper!
And I just learned about the vinegar from my boss, she made vegetable soup that was lip-smacking good. I think it was the sweet potato in it, then the vinegar as counterpoint that made the sale.
Posted by: kallisto at November 30, 2025 07:08 PM (x2rZg)
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My experience with using chocolate in chili is that it is pretty much a dominant flavoring and and to be used alone outside of the slight addition of peppers. It does not mix well with with spices. Not sure why. I tried dark alone at first and it was pretty good but anything added later turned into a train wreck in your mouth.
Posted by: pawn at November 30, 2025 07:12 PM (sPsWv)
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I know everybody is gone but I used unsweetened cocoa powder in the chili plus the spices I usually use. I liked it, but I am not a foodie.
237
When boiling shrimp, scoop them out when they float to the top. They are done.
Posted by: MacRadDod at November 30, 2025 07:46 PM (gUHjI)
238
I will strongly second the suggestion of the Still Austin Blue Corn BIB! Excellent stuff! We waited at the distillery in Austin for a couple of bottles, and it was well worth it. They have a blended masterpiece called 'Tanager' for sale this Saturday at the distillery, and I am bringing a chair.
I would also recommend Wood Hat "Ol' Blue" Blue Corn Whiskey. Most delightful!
Posted by: Brewingfrog at November 30, 2025 09:34 PM (lVMtv)
Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at November 30, 2025 10:33 PM (rKOAf)
First World Problems...
It was in the pool!
Old houses with hardwood floors have this peculiar problem, particularly if there is very little or no subfloor. They used to try to fill the gaps between the separating boards with putty mixed with sawdust, or chewing gum, or the blood of their enemies, or whatever. It never works.
Newer hardwood floors laid on subfloor is better! So I guess the only answer is to gut the old part of the house! Remove all of the flooring, add subfloor, then raise the ceilings because of the loss of height, then raise the second floor for the same reason, and then just nuke it from orbit!
Or fire. Fire fixes all ills!
6
I'm going through Mom's coats and robes to give to Goodwill. Sad, but also funny, because in addition to all the Kleenex stuffed in pockets and tucked in sleeves, there are shopping lists (more Kleenex!) and a recipe for chili, which sounds really good on a cold day like today.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 30, 2025 02:07 PM (kpS4V)
7I'm pretty sure there are resin fillers which last forever.
aka Velveeta
Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2025 02:07 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Ronster at November 30, 2025 02:07 PM (Z7eKX)
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Newer hardwood floors laid on subfloor is better! So I guess the only answer is to gut the old part of the house! Remove all of the flooring, add subfloor, then raise the ceilings because of the loss of height, then raise the second floor for the same reason, and then just nuke it from orbit!
Or fire. Fire fixes all ills!
Or, as the old codgers in my childhood neighborhood in The Bronx called it, 'Jewish lightning'.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025 02:08 PM (0CU3H)
10
Too soon?
Posted by: SciVo at November 30, 2025 02:06 PM (Sy6m/)
No, Too Soon was able to get out alive.
But his neighbor, Yoo Tu Slo didn't make it.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 02:09 PM (4MR3n)
11
I fixed the supplies to the basement laundry using Sharbites and PEX b. I will switch back to copper and ProPress later because PEX restricts the flow too much.
Posted by: Accomack at November 30, 2025 02:09 PM (FqNtp)
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I'm pretty sure there are resin fillers which last forever.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 30, 2025 02:07 PM (mOv6P)
Forever is a long time.
Posted by: Ozzie Mandias at November 30, 2025 02:10 PM (4MR3n)
Too soon?
Posted by: SciVo at November 30, 2025 02:06 PM (Sy6m/)
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"Not if you are someone who used CTRL-F to find Hong Kong before posting yourself." - Someone Who Used CTRL-F
Posted by: Another Anon at November 30, 2025 02:12 PM (4h45B)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 30, 2025 02:12 PM (AsaWd)
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Growing up in the US, we lived in early 20th century apartment buildings. The wooden slatted floors were super hard. They rarely splinted and only occasionally needed to be sanded and polished. I assume they were either teak or oak.
And yes, we wore shoes in the house all the time.
I haven't see such quality wood installed in the last 20-30 years.
17
Stop being a cheapskate and just buy a modern wood filler, you know, something made this century.
Or take Ronster's advice and put a rug on it.
Posted by: Fritzy at November 30, 2025 02:13 PM (2GIh1)
18
FWP - Internet connectivity suddenly stopped working while attempting to install a wireless router.
On the phone with tech support right now.
Even a direct wired connection to my computer no longer works.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 30, 2025 02:14 PM (ov4D3)
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Or take Ronster's advice and put a rug on it.
Posted by: Fritzy at November 30, 2025 02:13 PM (2GIh1)
I hate rugs. The cat litter sand gets... everywhere.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 02:14 PM (MxCkF)
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Nah, just mix some sawdust with a little wood glue, file it, sand.it, and then a little polyurethane or varnish to blend it in.
Piece of cake and next guy's problem when it inevitably fails.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 30, 2025 02:15 PM (sl73Y)
21
FWP - Internet connectivity suddenly stopped working while attempting to install a wireless router.
On the phone with tech support right now.
Even a direct wired connection to my computer no longer works.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
subnet issues.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 30, 2025 02:15 PM (AsaWd)
22
FWP - Internet connectivity suddenly stopped working while attempting to install a wireless router.
On the phone with tech support right now.
Even a direct wired connection to my computer no longer works.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 30, 2025 02:14 PM (ov4D3)
Did you check to see if it's plugged in?
Did you try turning it off and turning it back on?
Ok, that's the extent of my tech support knowledge.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 02:16 PM (EDXUr)
23
going through Mom's coats and robes to give to Goodwill. Sad, but also funny, because in addition to all the Kleenex stuffed in pockets and tucked in sleeves, there are shopping lists (more Kleenex!) and a recipe for chili, which sounds really good on a cold day like today.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 30, 2025 02:07 PM (kpS4V)
When I cleaned out the MIL's house, same thing with the kleenex. Filled a bedroom trach bucket completely with just crumpled kleenex.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 30, 2025 02:17 PM (sl73Y)
Posted by: Tonypete at November 30, 2025 02:18 PM (cYBz/)
25
If it’s in the kitchen and you have children, the cracks will eventually fill with an amalgamation of oatmeal, apple juice, cracker crumbs and other unidentifiable materials that will form a substance harder than titanium but of a color that makes it obvious there is a crack in the floor and you live in a pig sty. Regular people will look down on you and mock you behind your back.
Posted by: Charles Martel at November 30, 2025 02:18 PM (smrxK)
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Nah, just mix some sawdust with a little wood glue, file it, sand.it, and then a little polyurethane or varnish to blend it in.
Piece of cake and next guy's problem when it inevitably fails.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 30, 2025 02:15 PM (sl73Y)
Best if you put the steps in separate bullet points.
Step 1: Mix glue/sawdust
Step 2: File it
Step 3: Sand it
Step 4: Polish or varnish to blend it in
Step 5: Call a carpenter who actually knows what the f**k he's doing
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 02:18 PM (LTnl5)
Did you try turning it off and turning it back on?
Ok, that's the extent of my tech support knowledge.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 02:16 PM (EDXUr)
---
Yep. Did both *before* calling tech support.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 30, 2025 02:20 PM (ov4D3)
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at November 30, 2025 02:21 PM (2+43V)
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Raise the ceiling? What are you installing, a subfloor or a platform? 3/4" outdoor plywood was good enough for my uncle's own house (he was a contractor/builder), so.it should be god enough for you. 😁
Although I imagine there's something better out there today, and it'll be even thinner.
Posted by: buddhaha at November 30, 2025 02:21 PM (xUY/n)
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23 going through Mom's coats and robes to give to Goodwill. Sad, but also funny, because in addition to all the Kleenex stuffed in pockets and tucked in sleeves, there are shopping lists (more Kleenex!) and a recipe for chili, which sounds really good on a cold day like today.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 30, 2025 02:07 PM (kpS4V)
When I cleaned out the MIL's house, same thing with the kleenex. Filled a bedroom trach bucket completely with just crumpled kleenex.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 30, 2025 02:17 PM (sl73Y)
My grandma had an old joke in her purse. It was about a priest who put an ass in a horse race, with the headline in the papers the next day being "Priest's ass shows"...eventually the headlines become more risque with finally the Pope having a heart attack from the last headline.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 30, 2025 02:21 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at November 30, 2025 02:19 PM (2+43V)
There are pills for that...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 30, 2025 02:22 PM (ynpvh)
35
We installed t&g hardwood floors in the 60s when we were in high school. Those floors last many lifetimes if the subfloor is 6” or 8” X 1/2” boards clear of knots. This was on 2x8 or 2x10 joist system 16” OC.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 02:22 PM (i+bC1)
36
My mate decided that being furloughed during the government shutdown was a good chance to rip up the floors and lay down new ones. This involved completely clearing out my office, which displaced all of my books. Still putting it back together.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 30, 2025 02:22 PM (vKEG1)
37
"Perfessor" did you try reversing the polarities?
Seemed to work for Scotty.
Posted by: Fritzy at November 30, 2025 02:23 PM (2GIh1)
38
From the previous thread comments
MBnel (whose real name is Jhonel Dongon) was arrested on charges of false compartment activity
False compartment activity? WTF.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 30, 2025 02:25 PM (sl73Y)
39
"subnet issues.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron"
DNS. It's always DNS.
Posted by: fd at November 30, 2025 02:25 PM (vFG9F)
40
My sister had a very old house in Milwaukee, they redid the old floors, which were like 6" wide with huge gaps between each board. And they were wavy ... they didn't fill the cracks all the way, it was just part of the charm.
Posted by: illiniwek at November 30, 2025 02:26 PM (vbXSk)
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My mate decided that being furloughed during the government shutdown was a good chance to rip up the floors and lay down new ones.
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Sen. Markwayne Mullin Warns of “Real Possibility” of Another Democrat Shutdown in January
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 30, 2025 02:26 PM (L/fGl)
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18 FWP - Internet connectivity suddenly stopped working while attempting to install a wireless router.
On the phone with tech support right now.
Even a direct wired connection to my computer no longer works.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 30, 2025 02:14 PM (ov4D3)
I love getting emails from my provider when there's an outage...I guess they expect me to use my cell phone to check my email and their website...
They must've gotten their training from those VCR tapes on how to connect your VCR...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 30, 2025 02:26 PM (ynpvh)
43
So I guess the only answer is to gut the old part of the house! Remove all of the flooring, add subfloor, then raise the ceilings because of the loss of height, then raise the second floor for the same reason
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So a one weekend, DIY project.
Posted by: scampydog at November 30, 2025 02:27 PM (41CYW)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 30, 2025 02:27 PM (AsaWd)
45
39 "subnet issues.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron"
DNS. It's always DNS.
Posted by: fd at November 30, 2025 02:25 PM (vFG9F)
Did Not Sense...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 30, 2025 02:27 PM (ynpvh)
46
There is a new material suitable for injection molding that is made from finely ground wood "flour" and isomalt. It melts and acts like thermoplastic or Bakelite, and is biodegradable.
It will break down quickly in contact with water, but the researchers engineering it say that can be prevented by coating it.
https://tinyurl.com/3p2zat5s
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 02:27 PM (rbvCR)
47
Our cottage has heart pine flooring over 3x8 pine beams 24” OC. No issues with gaps or loosening. because the humidity is ambient.
Posted by: Accomack at November 30, 2025 02:28 PM (Dpv2s)
48
Those floors last many lifetimes if the subfloor is 6” or 8” X 1/2” boards clear of knots. This was on 2x8 or 2x10 joist system 16” OC.
Posted by: Eromero at November
Haven't seen a house built with real boards in years. All plywood, and for a good while now shitty composite plywood at that.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 30, 2025 02:29 PM (sl73Y)
192 "...gas is about $2.50 most everywhere, and eggs are $1.95.
Posted by: M. Gaga at November 30, 2025 01:53 PM (KiBMU)"
$2.50? I topped off for $2.27.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:55 PM (4786I)
Chevron holding steady at $4.89/gal here. And eggs are $5 or $6 per dozen in Vons but you can get them on sale sometimes for under $3.
Both self inflicted conditions. Word is gas is gonna be $8+ /gal once a few more refineries close in the near future...
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 02:29 PM (QGaXH)
50
Had hardwood floors in our place in CA. Found someone talented enough to repair a couple spots with matching wood. He got the pieces stained pretty damn close to the originals, and the key, according to him, was the size of the grain.
Patching is possible. If someone knows what they're doing.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 30, 2025 02:32 PM (NwnyJ)
51
So, I bought a heavy duty washer and dryer about three decades ago. After twenty years, the heating element for the dryer died. I had to install a new one. Another eight years, and that element died. I had to install a new one. Another three years, and the element died again. Even the spare parts are going downhill now.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 30, 2025 02:33 PM (0U5gm)
52 I take it separating boards lead to other, larger problems?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 30, 2025 02:33 PM (n7rxJ)
53Both self inflicted conditions. Word is gas is gonna be $8+ /gal once a few more refineries close in the near future...
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 02:29 PM (QGaXH)
Imagine if there are only three refineries and one is down for maintenance, and the other shuts down from a fire, and the only way to get more gas into the state is by highway tanker, and the passes are icy.
The only remaining way in is by ship, and all the tankers available are foreign hulls, and can't ship gasoline from any American port to California because of the Jones act.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 02:34 PM (rbvCR)
54
FWP - Internet connectivity suddenly stopped working while attempting to install a wireless router.
On the phone with tech support right now.
Even a direct wired connection to my computer no longer works.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 30, 2025 02:14 PM (ov4D3)
You might have loosened the coax connection to the cable modem, or you inadvertently unplugged the cable modem. Follow the round white cable coming from the wall. That small box that it plugs into is the cable modem. There should be an LED on it that lights when it's powered on. Next up would be the Ethernet cable from the cable modem that you can plug in to your computer. If all of those connections are good, the problem is most likely outside the house...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 30, 2025 02:34 PM (nbLIj)
55
I finally relented and turned on the forced air heating this morning. Been using my oil radiator heater downstairs as I hate the dryness and burned dust smell of forced air.
Wish I had natural gas. That’s the best.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 30, 2025 02:36 PM (mT+6a)
56
FWP. It's only Nov 30th and I am sick of shoveling snow.
Posted by: scampydog at November 30, 2025 02:36 PM (41CYW)
57
Follow the round white cable coming from the wall. That small box that it plugs into is the cable modem. There should be an LED on it that lights when it's powered on. Next up would be the Ethernet cable from the cable modem that you can plug in to your computer. If all of those connections are good, the problem is most likely outside the house...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 30, 2025 02:34 PM (nbLIj)
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Internet goes into the cable modem OK. But doesn't come out of the cable modem OK. The wireless router says I'm green across the board, but won't talk directly to my desktop computer via Ethernet. For some reason I can use the wireless on my desktop computer, but NOT on my laptop computer. It's very strange.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 30, 2025 02:37 PM (ov4D3)
58
Step 5: Call a carpenter who actually knows what the f**k he's doing
Posted by: BurtTC
Whoa!!! Let's not go crazy here!
Posted by: Tonypete at November 30, 2025 02:19 PM (cYBz/)
Mrs D learned years ago that sometimes it's better to have a handy man, than a man handy.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2025 02:37 PM (y3bZw)
59
Tack a straightedge to the floor next to the crack. Pass a router along the crack, rout it out 1/2" wide, and half the depth of the boards. Cut a strip of the same color oak, make the exact width of the routed slot, and tad thicker than the slot is deep. Glue into the slots with Gorilla Glue, use weights to press it in tight until the glue sets (overnight). Do all such faulty joints like that. Use a belt sander on the strips to bring them down to the level of the floor, then switch to a floor sander, and sand and then refinish the entire floor.
Or: move furniture to hide crack.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 02:39 PM (npFr7)
60 We have shoveling to do here in Wyoming. The snow is still heavily falling.
It is very pretty now. It won't be as pretty when we have to shovel it, lol.
Posted by: fourseasons at November 30, 2025 02:39 PM (3ek7K)
Put a paper bag over your head, so you don't see the cracks, think Virtuous Thoughts and say Virtuous Things. Don't forget the Land Acknowlegements and to always end by blaming the Bad Orange Man.
Posted by: City Councils in Blue Cities All Over America at November 30, 2025 02:39 PM (PiwSw)
62
Take an axe, chop similar slits in the rest of the floor. Tell visitors.it a totally new design by (inseet fancy sounding name here) interior designer.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2025 02:43 PM (y3bZw)
192 "...gas is about $2.50 most everywhere, and eggs are $1.95.
Posted by: M. Gaga at November 30, 2025 01:53 PM (KiBMU)"
$2.50? I topped off for $2.27.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:55 PM (4786I)
Chevron holding steady at $4.89/gal here. And eggs are $5 or $6 per dozen in Vons but you can get them on sale sometimes for under $3.
Both self inflicted conditions. Word is gas is gonna be $8+ /gal once a few more refineries close in the near future...
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 02:29 PM (QGaXH)
Yeah, gas at Costco was $4.299/gal here just last week. I blame Kalifornia.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 30, 2025 02:43 PM (ynpvh)
64
There is a new material suitable for injection molding that is made from finely ground wood "flour" and isomalt. It melts and acts like thermoplastic or Bakelite, and is biodegradable.
It will break down quickly in contact with water, but the researchers engineering it say that can be prevented by coating it.
https://tinyurl.com/3p2zat5s
Posted by: Kindltot
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It breaks down if the coating fails and water gets to it?
How long before LP brings out siding made from.it?
Posted by: buddhaha at November 30, 2025 02:43 PM (xUY/n)
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62 Take an axe, chop similar slits in the rest of the floor. Tell visitors.it a totally new design by (inseet fancy sounding name here) interior designer.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2025 02:43 PM (y3bZw)
It's the aged look, like what's done to furniture and tables...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 30, 2025 02:43 PM (ynpvh)
66
Internet goes into the cable modem OK. But doesn't come out of the cable modem OK. The wireless router says I'm green across the board, but won't talk directly to my desktop computer via Ethernet. For some reason I can use the wireless on my desktop computer, but NOT on my laptop computer. It's very strange.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 30, 2025 02:37 PM (ov4D3
Wireless driver on your laptop was lost. You can try to restart the laptop's wireless device from device manager, or check the internet for an updated driver..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 30, 2025 02:45 PM (nbLIj)
67
60
We have shoveling to do here in Wyoming. The snow is still heavily falling.
It is very pretty now. It won't be as pretty when we have to shovel it, lol.
Posted by: fourseasons at November 30, 2025 02:39 PM (3ek7K)
It's chilly today. High will be around 67°F...the low was 50°F early this morning! Oh, the horror!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 30, 2025 02:45 PM (ynpvh)
68
FWP here is there was large pecan pie for Thanksgiving dinner and no one took any of the leftover home. It's on me to eat disposition it. There's a gallon of milk in the fridge, too.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 30, 2025 02:46 PM (3Ope8)
69
66 Internet goes into the cable modem OK. But doesn't come out of the cable modem OK. The wireless router says I'm green across the board, but won't talk directly to my desktop computer via Ethernet. For some reason I can use the wireless on my desktop computer, but NOT on my laptop computer. It's very strange.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 30, 2025 02:37 PM (ov4D3
Wireless driver on your laptop was lost. You can try to restart the laptop's wireless device from device manager, or check the internet for an updated driver..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 30, 2025 02:45 PM (nbLIj)
Is network hidden? Did you do a search for new networks? The other day, my wifi was having issues, so my son was supposed to cycle power, but instead hit the reset button...it defaulted to the cable company's default settings. Had to log into the router and change everything back.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 30, 2025 02:46 PM (ynpvh)
70
The house we live in was built in the mid 50s with 5/8 t&g finish floors which are fine, but some of the floor has rot undermeath. We need to replace about 400 sf of joist and system. This project is what we call a bitchkitty. After I retire.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 02:47 PM (i+bC1)
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68 FWP here is there was large pecan pie for Thanksgiving dinner and no one took any of the leftover home. It's on me to eat disposition it. There's a gallon of milk in the fridge, too.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 30, 2025 02:46 PM (3Ope
Such a TERRIBLE problem...If I lived closer I might volunteer to help you with that Hurculean task...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 30, 2025 02:47 PM (ynpvh)
That is so sad. I hope ya'll survive the weather, lol.
Posted by: fourseasons at November 30, 2025 02:50 PM (3ek7K)
73
53 Imagine if there are only three refineries and one is down for maintenance, and the other shuts down from a fire, and the only way to get more gas into the state is by highway tanker, and the passes are icy.
The only remaining way in is by ship, and all the tankers available are foreign hulls, and can't ship gasoline from any American port to California because of the Jones act.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 02:34 PM (rbvCR)
If the planned closures occur we'll be down to about 8 refineries statewide.
We 'can't' import gasoline because we have a state EPA mandated special blend - only made and sold here and I believe also in Wa and Ore which is why their prices are so high.
So the refiners have a captive market willing to pay almost any price and still they are closing the refinery. No just selling it - shuttering it. The state must be threatening to start jailing the executives and confiscating their personal wealth for them to be willing to walk away from the pot of gold that is California.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 02:51 PM (QGaXH)
74 We have a pecan pie left. The apple pie and pumpkin pie disappeared quickly.
Posted by: fourseasons at November 30, 2025 02:52 PM (3ek7K)
75
Experiment with your stain to get the color you want then, as you said, sawdust and putty. It's not structural so your main goal is color and textural appearance.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 02:52 PM (owKS5)
These coincidences don’t even shock us anymore. If there is a Democrat involved, they are expected.
@amuse @amuse
COLOR REVOLUTION: Seditious Six member Senator Elissa Slotkin spoke at the Brookings Institute last month, predicting an incident involving National Guard. She estimated that it would take place in around two weeks from when she spoke.
X video: https://bit.ly/4amhKAo
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 30, 2025 02:53 PM (P5BPp)
77
So the refiners have a captive market willing to pay almost any price and still they are closing the refinery. No just selling it - shuttering it. The state must be threatening to start jailing the executives and confiscating their personal wealth for them to be willing to walk away from the pot of gold that is California.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 02:51 PM (QGaXH)
What do you need gas for in California? You can drive your electric car, or take the high-speed rail.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 02:53 PM (npFr7)
78
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So the refiners have a captive market willing to pay almost any price and still they are closing the refinery. No just selling it - shuttering it. The state must be threatening to start jailing the executives and confiscating their personal wealth for them to be willing to walk away from the pot of gold that is California.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 02:51 PM (QGaXH)
As you probably know, Kali's environmental regulations are quite voluminous and onerous. I'm sure that had absolutely NOTHING to do with those shuttering decisions...
On a side note, I made some Ma Po Tofu a month ago; it had the CA Prop 165 warning label that the sauce might cause cancer...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 30, 2025 02:54 PM (ynpvh)
79
Sen. Markwayne Mullin Warns of “Real Possibility” of Another Democrat Shutdown in January
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We're keeping Christmas low key with that thought in mind.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 30, 2025 02:54 PM (vKEG1)
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55 I finally relented and turned on the forced air heating this morning. Been using my oil radiator heater downstairs as I hate the dryness and burned dust smell of forced air.
Wish I had natural gas. That’s the best.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 30, 2025 02:36 PM (mT+6a)
"Wish I had natural gas. That’s the best."
Beans and cabbage ftw
(ducks, runs....)
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 02:55 PM (QGaXH)
81
Partial networking has been restored. I now have a direct wired connection between my desktop computer and the modem.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 30, 2025 02:55 PM (IBQGV)
82
We got a pecan pie that was not too sugary. It did have chocolate and bourbon which made it inedible. We tossed about half of a 30$ pie.
Posted by: Accomack at November 30, 2025 02:56 PM (+sNap)
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77 So the refiners have a captive market willing to pay almost any price and still they are closing the refinery. No just selling it - shuttering it. The state must be threatening to start jailing the executives and confiscating their personal wealth for them to be willing to walk away from the pot of gold that is California.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 02:51 PM (QGaXH)
What do you need gas for in California? You can drive your electric car, or take the high-speed rail.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 02:53 PM (npFr7)
LOL! ::: wiping tears :::
When they outlaw ICE, only outlaws and politicians and the connected will have ICE...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 30, 2025 02:56 PM (ynpvh)
84
>>>This project is what we call a bitchkitty. After I retire.
Posted by: Eromero
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Start saving up for that oak flooring.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 02:57 PM (owKS5)
These coincidences don’t even shock us anymore. If there is a Democrat involved, they are expected.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 30, 2025 02:53 PM (P5BPp)
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Mark Kelly: "This president, when he says things like 'third world countries,' what is he really saying? I think what he's saying is he doesn't want brown people in our country. And that's disturbing. It's un-American."
Gavin Newsom is like a poisonous jungle plant. Everything he touches is damaged or destroyed beyond survival. If he cheats his way into power on the national level, America is doomed.
Mario Nawfal @MarioNawfal
GAVIN NEWSOM’S $20 FAST-FOOD WAGE JUST KILLED 19,000 JOBS
California’s glorious “worker empowerment” experiment is now official: since the $20 minimum hit in April 2024, the state has erased more than 19,000 fast-food jobs - over 25% of ALL fast-food jobs lost in the entire United States.
Hours slashed, overtime banned, mom-and-pop stores closing or flipping to kiosks because they can’t afford the Newsom tax.
Prices? Up 14.5% on average.
A Combo meal that was $11 is now $18–22.
But the best part: the workers still employed are making less total money because their hours got gutted harder than the wage went up.
X: https://bit.ly/3Y4ND9b
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 30, 2025 02:59 PM (P5BPp)
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Forced-air heating is forced-air, whether the heat source is an oil burner, a gas burner, or a heat pump.
Hot water heat is the most comfy, IMHO.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 02:59 PM (npFr7)
91
cable from the modem goes to the internet port, not one of the numbered ports, right?
Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 30, 2025 03:00 PM (+mUZM)
92
If he was navy he'd know to get some oakum, creosote, a small wedge or flat blade screwdriver and a mallet.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 03:01 PM (owKS5)
93
Yep. A simple pecan pie made with blueberries or a pumpkin custard are the best.
Posted by: Accomack at November 30, 2025 03:01 PM (+sNap)
94
Not an expert, but that looks like it MIGHT be termite damage?
Perhaps look around your house for other signs, or get an expert out?
The other option is carpenter ants in a dead part of the tree before the lumber was harvested.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 30, 2025 03:01 PM (HlyYF)
95When they outlaw ICE, only outlaws and politicians and the connected will have ICE...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 30, 2025 02:56 PM (ynpvh)
This is the world of Road Warrior
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 03:01 PM (rbvCR)
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91 cable from the modem goes to the internet port, not one of the numbered ports, right?
Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 30, 2025 03:00 PM (+mUZM)
Why go port? What about starboard?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 30, 2025 03:01 PM (ynpvh)
97
I have a bedroom that scares people because the floorboards seem to float,vibrating a bit when you walk on them. If I put something heavy on one end, it's fine. Likely no subfloor, as the house was built in the 50s.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 30, 2025 03:02 PM (+mUZM)
98
Remember who did this:
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-RememberThisWell
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-LIBsTheChickenRun
“Such a consequential president of the United States, a Mount Rushmore kind of president of the United States,” --Pelosi'24 feeling that she's getting real on IceKingJOE
"Every aspect of our lives must be subjected to an inventory" -- Shameless Politico THUG, Nancy Pelosi'09 in Red China.
"to leave now we would send a message to terrorists and other potential adversaries around the world that they can change our policies by killing our people. It would be open season on Americans."
-- Bill Clinton '93 just before he pulled out of Somalia.
To abandon this area now -- and to rely only on efforts against alQaeda from a distance
What is the vital national interest? -- IceKing Joe'21
https://tinyurl.com/forWARd-MorallySuperiorSharks
... celebration by the Democrats ....They would gladly sacrifice the country if only they could rule over its ruins. ...
...
when Hillary moves into the White House, the immorality of the United States will need a different scale for measurement, a scale which will leave sharks barely visible even with a powerful microscope.
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at November 30, 2025 03:03 PM (6F3rp)
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77 What do you need gas for in California? You can drive your electric car, or take the high-speed rail.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 02:53 PM (npFr7)
Snort! Thanks for the laugh!
Watch it or I'll sell out and buy a summer home near you.....
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 03:03 PM (QGaXH)
100
They are trying to destroy fast food. They think it’s unhealthy and the jobs are demeaning.
Posted by: Accomack at November 30, 2025 03:03 PM (+sNap)
Posted by: The Cleansing Fire at November 30, 2025 03:04 PM (jc0TO)
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100 They are trying to destroy fast food. They think it’s unhealthy and the jobs are demeaning.
Posted by: Accomack at November 30, 2025 03:03 PM (+sNap)
It's the socialist idea of a "living wage", as if you're meant to have a teenager's starting job for life...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 30, 2025 03:04 PM (ynpvh)
104
Forced-air heating is forced-air, whether the heat source is an oil burner, a gas burner, or a heat pump.
Hot water heat is the most comfy, IMHO.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Yahbutt... Has anyone figured out how to pump chilled water to a radiator? If you gotta have the ducting anyway...
Posted by: buddhaha at November 30, 2025 03:05 PM (xUY/n)
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83 77 So the refiners have a captive market willing to pay almost any price and still they are closing the refinery. No just selling it - shuttering it. The state must be threatening to start jailing the executives and confiscating their personal wealth for them to be willing to walk away from the pot of gold that is California.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK)
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That's not the way it works but you may as well bitch about the company because you're stuck with Commie courts & politicians.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 03:06 PM (owKS5)
106
One of the saddest things is a cardboard faux fireplace for Christmas.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 30, 2025 03:06 PM (Kt19C)
107
>>>>Forced-air heating is forced-air, whether the heat source is an oil burner, a gas burner, or a heat pump.
Hot water heat is the most comfy, IMHO.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 02:59 PM (npFr7)
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I've live with gas heated forced air most of my life and now have heat pump forced air. From my experience there's a big difference. Gas fired forced air heat much more comfortable and warmer thana heat pump. YMMV.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at November 30, 2025 03:07 PM (n8oIX)
108
In guitar repair world, its called a splint. Here you would rip down a piece of oak the width and depth of the separation, glue it in, touch up the finish, and done forever. IF..IF it was one area. If its all over the floor then time for a new one. Usually in the old houses they had tongue and groove sub floors which are usually good enough to leave in place. Loose sections get screwed down before the new floor goes in. Tearing up old oak flooring is somewhere in the middle of ball surgery with a rusty soup can lid and stepping on your dick with golf shoes.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 03:08 PM (snZF9)
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106 One of the saddest things is a cardboard faux fireplace for Christmas.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 30, 2025 03:06 PM (Kt19C)
You can stick it into a real fireplace and set it alight?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 30, 2025 03:08 PM (ynpvh)
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105 That's not the way it works but you may as well bitch about the company because you're stuck with Commie courts & politicians.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 03:06 PM (owKS5)
Can you elaborate? What am I missing?
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 03:09 PM (QGaXH)
111
>>>Camus@newstart_202
Nicole Shanahan — ex-wife of Google co-founder Sergey Brin,
former running mate of RFK Jr., and someone who personally signed nine-figure philanthropy checks — just went full whistleblower on the entire Silicon Valley “tech wife mafia” and how they were used.
https://tinyurl.com/4srew2r7
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 03:09 PM (owKS5)
112
Peon Manor, built in 1915 as a one-room schoolhouse, has a subfloor of rough fir planks parallel to the long axis of the building (north-south). Six to eight inch random-width boards. Flooring upstairs is narrow planks of edge-grain fir, also laid north-south. I am going to re-do the living room in laminate.
I don't know why the subfloor was not laid diagonally; makes for a stronger structure.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 03:09 PM (npFr7)
113Yahbutt... Has anyone figured out how to pump chilled water to a radiator? If you gotta have the ducting anyway...
Posted by: buddhaha at November 30, 2025 03:05 PM
Some people around me are running heat pumps to piping in the floor (hydronic floor heating) that is supposedly very comfortable and efficient.
Theoretically, I think your heat pump could also circulate cool fluid in the summer to cool the house. However, you would probably also need to run a whole-house dehumidifier or the cool floors would cause condensation.
I don't know if that type of cooling occurs in the real world?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 30, 2025 03:10 PM (HlyYF)
114
An Asian nail salon owner is going viral after absolutely demolishing a disrespectful black woman who told him to go back to his country.
https://tinyurl.com/yn23ayas
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 03:10 PM (owKS5)
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It’s very strange. It costs me thru GrubHub+ about 4$ to get food delivered. Every delivery guy is a foreigner. Who is making money? Amazon because more people will sign up for Prime? Does it even matter to them?
They want everyone to live within walking distance of everything and yet have imported low skill people for menial jobs delivering precooked meals.
Lunatics.
Posted by: Accomack at November 30, 2025 03:11 PM (+sNap)
116
COLOR REVOLUTION: Seditious Six member Senator Elissa Slotkin spoke at the Brookings Institute last month, predicting an incident involving National Guard. She estimated that it would take place in around two weeks from when she spoke.
X video: https://bit.ly/4amhKAo
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 30, 2025 02:53 PM (P5BPp)
Surprised it took that long for them to get it set up.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2025 03:13 PM (y3bZw)
117
FWP - Internet connectivity suddenly stopped working while attempting to install a wireless router.
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Something about this doesn't make sense to me...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 30, 2025 03:14 PM (XeU6L)
118
Peon Manor, built in 1915 as a one-room schoolhouse, has a subfloor of rough fir planks parallel to the long axis of the building (north-south). Six to eight inch random-width boards. Flooring upstairs is narrow planks of edge-grain fir, also laid north-south. I am going to re-do the living room in laminate.
I don't know why the subfloor was not laid diagonally; makes for a stronger structure.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 03:09 PM (npFr7)
Because it would take longer. End of story. I spent 90% of my time working in ancient houses, and I swear sometimes it was the size of the timbers that kept the buildings standing. Most of the old houses didn't even have the corners locked together, and the rooms themselves didn't have framed corners as we know it.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 03:14 PM (snZF9)
119
Yahbutt... Has anyone figured out how to pump chilled water to a radiator? If you gotta have the ducting anyway...
Posted by: buddhaha at November 30, 2025 03:05 PM (xUY/n)
Hot water heating works fine because baseboard heaters and radiators heat the air in contact with them, and hot air rises, so a circulation is established. Use them as chillers, you will just get a pool of icy air around your feet.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 03:14 PM (npFr7)
120
Tried to eat at McDonald's today. Their kiosks SUCK. Needed a human to intervein.
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Sheetz has excellent kiosks; it's the only place I go for fast food anymore.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 30, 2025 03:16 PM (vKEG1)
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Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 30, 2025 02:53 PM (P5BPp)
Wow; That is absolutely mind boggling!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 30, 2025 03:17 PM (rZCVI)
122
Chevron holding steady at $4.89/gal here. And eggs are $5 or $6 per dozen in Vons but you can get them on sale sometimes for under $3.
Both self inflicted conditions. Word is gas is gonna be $8+ /gal once a few more refineries close in the near future...
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 02:29 PM (QGaXH)
Yeah, gas at Costco was $4.299/gal here just last week. I blame Kalifornia.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 30, 2025 02:43 PM (ynpvh)
Truth. TX last raised its gas tax in 1991.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 03:17 PM (4786I)
Posted by: A '70s Pornstar at November 30, 2025 03:18 PM (JkO4W)
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I loved my radiant heat floors in the basement. Never had to turn on the forced air. It was awesome. No such luck above ground though. I have hardwood and carpet.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 30, 2025 03:18 PM (mT+6a)
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120 Tried to eat at McDonald's today. Their kiosks SUCK. Needed a human to intervein.
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Sheetz has excellent kiosks; it's the only place I go for fast food anymore.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 30, 2025 03:16 PM (vKEG1)
Interesting. I have never had a bad time with their kiosks. Their app, OTOH...
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 03:18 PM (4786I)
126
Some people around me are running heat pumps to piping in the floor (hydronic floor heating) that is supposedly very comfortable and efficient.
Theoretically, I think your heat pump could also circulate cool fluid in the summer to cool the house. However, you would probably also need to run a whole-house dehumidifier or the cool floors would cause condensation.
I don't know if that type of cooling occurs in the real world?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 30, 2025 03:10 PM (HlyYF)
Thing with heat pumps is the hot side heat exchanger does not get nearly as hot as the heat exchanger in a combustion furnace. So they baff out a lot of warmish air which eventually heats the room to a livable temperature, but there's not the feeling of warmth you get from really hot air blasting out of a combustion furnace register.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 03:20 PM (npFr7)
127
>>>Can you elaborate? What am I missing?
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan
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If the company was making money, their 6% cut, they wouldn't be leaving. Chevon, that's had a century or longer love affair with CA moved its HQ to Texas. They didn't want to go. They begged, borrowed and pleaded with Govt to see the light. No hue.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 03:21 PM (owKS5)
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Both self inflicted conditions. Word is gas is gonna be $8+ /gal once a few more refineries close in the near future...
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 02:29 PM (QGaXH)
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Newsom is implementing his New Economic Plan where refineries are incentivized to increase their output until he's elected President.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 30, 2025 03:21 PM (JkO4W)
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118 Peon Manor, built in 1915 as a one-room schoolhouse, has a subfloor of rough fir planks parallel to the long axis of the building (north-south). Six to eight inch random-width boards. Flooring upstairs is narrow planks of edge-grain fir, also laid north-south. I am going to re-do the living room in laminate.
I don't know why the subfloor was not laid diagonally; makes for a stronger structure.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025
We nailed the subfloor at a 45 to the floor system, and sheeted the exterior walls the same way. Used a lot of green pine lumber, joked that squirrels ate a pinecone on this rafter yesterday. No such thong as a nailgun back then. 22 oz straight claw Plumb, baby.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 03:24 PM (i+bC1)
130
Jam match sticks into the cracks. Stain with Old English.
Posted by: New Name at November 30, 2025 03:25 PM (Z5/Ih)
131
Welp. I turned everything off and turned it all back on again and now networking seems to be working...
Technician reset the MAC table on the backend, which did clear some stuff up. But that's about it.
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>>>So they baff out a lot of warmish air which eventually heats the room to a livable temperature, but there's not the feeling of warmth you get from really hot air blasting out of a combustion furnace register.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Icky moist air, you can feel the mold growing as the air flows by.
Had one with an electric element backup. Turn on the electric backup first, watch the meter spin and feel the hot dry air, then rock it back and let the pump maintain the temp.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 03:25 PM (owKS5)
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 03:26 PM (i+bC1)
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California’s glorious “worker empowerment” experiment is now official: since the $20 minimum hit in April 2024, the state has erased more than 19,000 fast-food jobs - over 25% of ALL fast-food jobs lost in the entire United States.
Hours slashed, overtime banned, mom-and-pop stores closing or flipping to kiosks because they can’t afford the Newsom tax.
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I've also had incredible success rebuilding the Palisades.
-Gavinator
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 30, 2025 03:28 PM (A0sqA)
135
I loved my radiant heat floors in the basement. Never had to turn on the forced air. It was awesome. No such luck above ground though. I have hardwood and carpet.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 30, 2025 03:18 PM (mT+6a)
Radiant floor heating seems to only be done when your floor is a slab on grade, as far as I have seen. My little shop, a 24X24 garage has radiant floor heating powered by a 40 gallon domestic water heater, fueled by gas. It is very cosy in Winter. When I had the big shop, 32X60, built, I had radiant heat tubing placed under the slab, but have never connected it. I was going to rig it to burn coal, and bought a coal-fired boiler from a friend, but never got around to hooking it up. Spending Winters in Arizona, the need for it sort of passed, although I sure could use it right about now. Now, retail coal is all but unavailable. I should look into making it work with wood, sawdust, and waste oil, and old tires.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 03:28 PM (npFr7)
They are doing a very similar thing with Hegseth and his supposed No Survivors order against the drug terrorists. They built this whole narrative about illegal orders and now they are claiming that Hegseth gave an illegal order based on one anonymous sourced article in the CIA mouthpiece WaPo.
I agree with Gen Flynn that Trump should give an address to the country and educate everyone on color revolutions. Once you know the process they are easy to spot.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 30, 2025 03:30 PM (viF8m)
they are, quite simply, The Worst People In The World
Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 03:31 PM (xCU6M)
138We have shoveling to do here in Wyoming. The snow is still heavily falling.
Posted by: fourseasons
So when the wife and I move to Wyoming, make sure the snow blower comes with us? Noted.
Posted by: NR Pax at November 30, 2025 03:31 PM (7xrfc)
139
see my alternate hash
the 'AoSQT' modem has failed
Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 03:32 PM (xCU6M)
140
I've already seen someone yapping about how once Trump ends, Hegseth gets tried at Nuremberg. The source was "Trust me, bro."
Posted by: NR Pax at November 30, 2025 03:32 PM (7xrfc)
141
Stephen Miller:
“40% of rent controlled properties are being lived in by people who weren’t even born in the country….We bring in people from foreign countries, and then we pay to lower the cost of their housing while people who were born here have to pay higher prices.”
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 03:34 PM (owKS5)
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>>I've already seen someone yapping about how once Trump ends, Hegseth gets tried at Nuremberg. The source was "Trust me, bro."
The Pentagon came out immediately after the WaPo article and said the entire article was made up garbage. They don't care. They just keep insisting it's true.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 30, 2025 03:35 PM (viF8m)
143Radiant floor heating seems to only be done when your floor is a slab on grade, as far as I have seen. My little shop, a 24X24 garage has radiant floor heating powered by a 40 gallon domestic water heater, fueled by gas. It is very cosy in Winter.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 03:28 PM
Good observation. The people I have known that installed it were mostly in post and beam (barndominium) homes on a poured slab.
If we ever do that style of home at our property and do radiant floor heating, we are definitely doing a wood-burning stove/fireplace for the additional comfort of nice, toasty heat!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 30, 2025 03:35 PM (HlyYF)
144
My FWP was decorating my Christmas tree. I'm usually pretty picky about where I put the ornaments. This year, not so much. I just slapped them on not paying any attention to color distribution. Frankly, who cares. The dog said he thinks it looks fine.
Posted by: Tuna at November 30, 2025 03:35 PM (lJ0H4)
The weather here is strange some winters. We might have winters when snow is rare.
Living in Wyoming is wonderful despite the winters.
The feeling of freedom here outweighs the weather.
Posted by: fourseasons at November 30, 2025 03:35 PM (3ek7K)
146
Commies making a full court press on today's MSM.
Mark Kelly:
“I said something very simple and non-controversial and Donald Trump said I should be hanged, executed, prosecuted.
Pete Hegseth said I should be court-martialed. How ridiculous is this?
We say follow the law and this is their response? These are not serious people. We’re sticking up for the Constitution here and the rule of law”
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 03:37 PM (owKS5)
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Yeah, gas at Costco was $4.299/gal here just last week. I blame Kalifornia.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 30, 2025 02:43 PM (ynpvh)
Truth. TX last raised its gas tax in 1991.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 03:17 PM (4786I)
It seems Chevron is trying to fight back a little with signs in their stations stating how Cali gas taxes are highest in the nation and a Q code thingy to use to find out more and how to fight it.
I fear it's too little too late.
The egg prices - we passed some initiative requiring humane conditions for chickens so I guess that forced egg prices to soar....so no hope there either. I don't think they can bring eggs in either unless the chicken farm complies.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 03:39 PM (QGaXH)
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145 The feeling of freedom here outweighs the weather.
Posted by: fourseasons
I have about 3-4 more years before it happens. I'm pretty much leaving the government contracting life. My wife and I were on vacation out in Cheyenne and fell in love with the state. So when I started thinking we could retire there, she started reading articles.
A few minutes later, she's laughing at one of the articles. To summarize:
Pro: Beautiful area, low crime.
Cons: Not a lot of diversity.
Decision made.
Posted by: NR Pax at November 30, 2025 03:40 PM (7xrfc)
We live in a small town, 2500 population. We have 2 cops, lol. Thank God they have almost nothing criminal to deal with.
I have a shirt that says "Welcome to Wyoming. Remember everyone here is armed."
Posted by: fourseasons at November 30, 2025 03:43 PM (3ek7K)
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127 If the company was making money, their 6% cut, they wouldn't be leaving. Chevon, that's had a century or longer love affair with CA moved its HQ to Texas. They didn't want to go. They begged, borrowed and pleaded with Govt to see the light. No hue.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 03:21 PM (owKS5)
That's what I don't understand. How can they not make money? They have a captive market! They can charge whatever they want. There's no one to undercut them.
My only thinking is the regulators are picking the refineries off one by one with targeted regs that affect only a specific location or process causing it to price itself out of business but leaving the competition unscathed. For now.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 03:46 PM (QGaXH)
151"Welcome to Wyoming. Remember everyone here is armed."
We were at a brewery one night and the guy working there had a Ka-Bar at his hip. You guys are great. I'm looking forward to the move.
Posted by: NR Pax at November 30, 2025 03:48 PM (7xrfc)
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>>>The egg prices - we passed some initiative requiring humane conditions for chickens so I guess that forced egg prices to soar....so no hope there either. I don't think they can bring eggs in either unless the chicken farm complies.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 03:39 PM
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Eliminating transportation and food sounds like holodomor.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 03:49 PM (owKS5)
153
The easy way was 50 years ago. Now it’s the hard way.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 03:53 PM (i+bC1)
We loved Wyoming when we were there in Aug of 2024. We trailer camped in both Grand Teton and Yellowstone then made our way across the state to Black Hills (SD) stopping in Cody and Buffalo.
Overnighted near Cheyenne on the way back.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 03:54 PM (QGaXH)
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My only thinking is the regulators are picking the refineries off one by one with targeted regs that affect only a specific location or process causing it to price itself out of business but leaving the competition unscathed. For now.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 03:46 PM (QGaXH)
This. Same thing happened to independent trucking companies. Newsome passed some law that diesels manufactured pre 2010 (IIRC) could not renew their registration due to "climate" concerns. Bigger companies could buy new trucks. Smaller one's had to shut down, lay off workers, or move.
Oil refineries are constantly hit with requirements to replace perfectly working hardware. Year over year, you just can't predict what's coming down the pike. So every year is another crap shoot...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 30, 2025 03:57 PM (nbLIj)
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131 Welp. I turned everything off and turned it all back on again and now networking seems to be working...
Technician reset the MAC table on the backend, which did clear some stuff up. But that's about it.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 30, 2025 03:25 PM (IBQGV)
Next time, if it's just the one computer and it's Windows, try this in a command prompt window:
ipconfig /release
ipconfig /renew
As I recall, that doesn't just re-get an IP address from DHCP, it also rebuilds the routing table. It can get messed up with using multiple network adapters on the same computer, such as when adding a wireless connection.
Posted by: SciVo at November 30, 2025 03:57 PM (Sy6m/)
157 An Asian nail salon owner is going viral after absolutely demolishing a disrespectful black woman who told him to go back to his country.
https://tinyurl.com/yn23ayas
Posted by: Braenyard
"I saw your ebt card, my taxes pay for your food."
"Get your bowling pin potato ass build the fuck outta here!"
"Fuck you!"
Thank you Braenyard, I needed that laugh.
Posted by: BifBewalski at November 30, 2025 03:58 PM (QVmho)
158
our FWP at work today. A company that downloads our data had to close their site in Tahiti, France would not renew the lease. We stopped updating the Tahiti directory on our end since the site no longer exists. Turns out they were pulling TLEs they need to be able to point the right place to download data only from that directory for all 3 of their sites. Oops.
Posted by: PaleRider at November 30, 2025 04:00 PM (hhkIi)
Posted by: fourseasons at November 30, 2025 04:05 PM (3ek7K)
162
Cracks? It's the squeaks that can be maddening @ nighttime and/or early morning from the mid-century installed hardwood floors.
Posted by: L - No nic... at November 30, 2025 04:10 PM (NFX2v)
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158 Oops.
Posted by: PaleRider at November 30, 2025 04:00 PM (hhkIi)
"Oops"
And now Perfessor S can't get his internet to work.....!!!
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 04:11 PM (QGaXH)
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"Get your bowling pin potato ass build the fuck outta here!"
Thank you Braenyard, I needed that laugh.
Posted by: BifBewalski at November 30, 2025 03:58 PM (
Hate speech! Screeeeee....
What exactly is a 'bowling pin potato...'???
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 04:13 PM (QGaXH)
165
Black Patch, 1957 western, bar scene, stereotypical nude painting behind bar. Mild enough for 1957. But noooo, gotta blur that out for tv today. Meh.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 30, 2025 04:14 PM (Kt19C)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 30, 2025 04:15 PM (Kt19C)
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106 One of the saddest things is a cardboard faux fireplace for Christmas.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty
We were only disappointed when the spinning light thingy stopped working.
Posted by: L - No nic... at November 30, 2025 04:25 PM (NFX2v)
169162 Cracks? It's the squeaks that can be maddening @ nighttime and/or early morning from the mid-century installed hardwood floors.
Posted by: L - No nic... at November 30, 2025 04:10 PM
I don't mind the squeaks - our house is 107 years old.
In the movies where the bad guy sneaks up on the family, that is not happening in my house!
I can always tell who is walking where, and even if a dog is in a room where it is not supposed to be. I like our "high tech" floorboard house monitoring system.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 30, 2025 04:27 PM (HlyYF)
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162 Cracks? It's the squeaks that can be maddening @ nighttime and/or early morning from the mid-century installed hardwood floors.
Posted by: L - No nic...
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That's the character of an all natural product.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 04:38 PM (Y7TJ9)
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>>>>Forced-air heating is forced-air, whether the heat source is an oil burner, a gas burner, or a heat pump.
Hot water heat is the most comfy, IMHO.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 02:59 PM (npFr7)
******
I've live with gas heated forced air most of my life and now have heat pump forced air. From my experience there's a big difference. Gas fired forced air heat much more comfortable and warmer thana heat pump. YMMV.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly
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Wood stoves are the best
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 30, 2025 04:40 PM (Z5/Ih)
172
>>>Camus@newstart_202
Nicole Shanahan — ex-wife of Google co-founder Sergey Brin,
former running mate of RFK Jr., and someone who personally signed nine-figure philanthropy checks — just went full whistleblower on the entire Silicon Valley “tech wife mafia” and how they were used.
https://tinyurl.com/4srew2r7
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others
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Key Club parties were lit.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 30, 2025 04:45 PM (Z5/Ih)
173 52% of all murders in the United States come from only 2 counties
1) Cook County, Illinois (Chicago and surrounding area)
2) Los Angeles County, California
Repeat offenders in Chicago, the same 1400 people commit over 86% of the crimes. The same repeat offenders according to the superintendent of Chicago police
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 05:04 PM (Y7TJ9)
174
This is so good. It'll probably come up on the ONT, unless we're doing lollipops and Fudgsicles.
The Reaping Phase retweeted . L A R R Y@LarryOConnor Nov 28
The rule is that we are to blame Mark Kelly's political rhetoric for the shooting of our National Guardsmen in DC.
This rule was created by Mark Kelly when his wife was shot in 2011 by a deranged lunatic for completely apolitical reasons. Kelly and the Democrats and the media blamed Sarah Palin, Andrew Breitbart, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck for the shooting.
This is the rule. It's HIS and his party's rule
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 05:47 PM (Y7TJ9)
Posted by: Miken at November 30, 2025 10:07 PM (MkbOx)
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I've got the same thing in my house... hardwood with large gaps and no subfloor.
In the bedrooms I laid a vinyl floating floor.
For the living room and dining room, my plan is to sand the floor a bit to get it all flat, and then lay new oak tongue and groove 90 degrees to the original, using the original hardwood as the subfloor.
Should be a lot easier than tearing out the old floor.
Posted by: watchin at December 01, 2025 01:27 AM (+2Q25)
179
This information is invaluable. Where can I find out more?
Residents in Wang Fuk Court have said they repeatedly complained to the city's Labor Department about the flammability of the protective green mesh that was used to cover bamboo scaffolding raised around the buildings, only to be told that the fire risk was relatively low, Reuters reported Friday.
This is exactly the 3rd World sensibility that we are busily importing. Respect for human life is a joke in most of the world, but the West has managed to change that, by elevating the individual to primacy.
Respect for the law, in this case construction regulations, is a shell game in all but the West. Fake the paperwork, use fake and cheap materials, bribe the inspectors, do what you must to maximize profit, and if a few people die? Oh well!
And the state is no better. Building inspectors actively solicit bribes in most of the world! And the regulations written by the regulatory bodies are laughable in their lack of teeth.
But we are busily bringing that mindset to America! Sure, there is corruption in America, and there has always been, but our minimum standards, even with crooked officials are far higher, and more stringently policed than anywhere else. But the breathtaking thievery of the 3rd World is a level that we have never even approached here.
Soon though!
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 30, 2025 12:07 PM (pW7uA)
6
Haven't yet seen details on the Stockton massacre. Four dead, all children, a total of 20 people shot.
At a birthday party. Without any more details, I'm gonna guess it was a disgruntled father who wasn't allowed to come.
Gonna further guess the shooter and victims were... ethnic.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:08 PM (xA5Rj)
7But the breathtaking thievery of the 3rd World is a level that we have never even approached here.
Yep.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 30, 2025 12:05 PM
And while everyone is rightly focusing on Islam/Muslims and Somalians and other violent Third Worlders, India is one of the prime offenders of fraud and thievery of American jobs and homes and tax benefits. India needs to be cut off as well. Both with H-1Bs and student visas as well as all the outsourcing going on, especially in the automotive industry and engineering jobs in general.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 30, 2025 12:08 PM (P5BPp)
8
Remember most of the world lives with corruption every day
Don't expect those people to change
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 12:08 PM (Ia/+0)
9
Not to mention the lowering of standards for original engineering design of structures.
Posted by: The Florida Women's Footbridge Crew at November 30, 2025 12:08 PM (8QVSJ)
10
Conversely, people whose homes burned to the ground in Pacific Palisades can't get a permit to rebuild thanks to political corruption and overbearing regulation.
Posted by: PabloD at November 30, 2025 12:09 PM (GALGA)
11
And while everyone is rightly focusing on Islam/Muslims and Somalians and other violent Third Worlders, India is one of the prime offenders of fraud and thievery of American jobs and homes and tax benefits. India needs to be cut off as well. Both with H-1Bs and student visas as well as all the outsourcing going on, especially in the automotive industry and engineering jobs in general.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 30, 2025 12:08 PM (P5BPp)
Preach!!
Indians have systematically taken over several industries. Once Sanjeev is a manager, nobody named Dave will ever get hired. But most Americans still think oh they’re the “good immigrants”. Nah bruh. Not even close.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 30, 2025 12:10 PM (pW7uA)
12
Can't wait till the 'New American's' begin to fly for the large airlines.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 30, 2025 12:11 PM (a1415)
On the evening of November 29, 2025, a mass shooting erupted at a family gathering in Stockton, California, which local officials described as a child's birthday party held at a banquet hall near the 1900 block of Lucile Avenue. The incident, occurring around 6:00 p.m. local time, left four people dead and at least 10 others injured, with reports indicating that a total of 14 individuals were struck by gunfire. Victims ranged in age from children to adults, and children were among both the fatalities and the wounded, including some as young as 9 years old. The shooting has shocked the community, prompting widespread grief and calls for action on gun violence.
What Happened
Location and Context: The event took place at a banquet hall adjacent to an ice cream shop (initially misreported by some sources as occurring inside the shop). Stockton Vice Mayor Jason Lee confirmed it was a child's birthday celebration...
Grok summary: https://bit.ly/3XWfLLJ
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 30, 2025 12:11 PM (P5BPp)
Suspect(s): No arrests have been made, and the shooter — or possible multiple shooters — remains at large. Authorities believe the attack was targeted, potentially linked to a personal or gang-related dispute rather than a random act. Social media speculation points to involvement of local rappers (e.g., MBNel and Dougy3z) who were reportedly in attendance, tying into Stockton's history of gang violence involving groups like the Asian Boyz and various Crips factions. However, police have not confirmed these details.
Motive: Early indications suggest it may stem from a local feud, given Stockton's elevated homicide rate (3x the national average, with 87 murders in San Joaquin County in 2024 alone). The SJCSO is reviewing surveillance footage and witness statements.
Grok summary: https://bit.ly/3XWfLLJ
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 30, 2025 12:12 PM (P5BPp)
Posted by: dantesed at November 30, 2025 12:13 PM (Oy/m2)
17
Authorities believe the attack was targeted, potentially linked to a personal or gang-related dispute rather than a random act. Social media speculation points to involvement of local rappers (e.g., MBNel and Dougy3z) who were reportedly in attendance, tying into Stockton's history of gang violence involving groups like the Asian Boyz and various Crips factions.
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So MAGA white supremacists.
- msm
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 30, 2025 12:14 PM (pW7uA)
18
Wang Fuk was the original name for Wang Chung, but the record companies felt it wasn't marketable.
Posted by: PabloD at November 30, 2025 12:15 PM (GALGA)
19
Is Hong Kong still "semi-autonomous" (if it ever really was) or is it 100% CCP controlled now?
Posted by: The bacteria on your dish sponge at November 30, 2025 12:15 PM (3nLb4)
20 So MAGA white supremacists.
- msm
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 30, 2025 12:14 PM (pW7uA)
Those pesky Amish again
Posted by: It's me donna at November 30, 2025 12:15 PM (VE6XX)
21
Stockton - “Authorities believe the attack was…”
…Everything anyone with the tiniest lick of common sense would imagine it was, without having to lift a finger to investigate.
In another news, Experts say water is wet.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 12:16 PM (3U2FH)
The shooting has shocked the community, prompting widespread grief and calls for action on gun violence.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 30, 2025 12:11 PM (P5BPp)
Sure.
What community?
Who made calls for action on gun violence.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:16 PM (EWlvz)
23
China has an interesting history of residential buildings and their construction methodologies.
They also have a considerable amount of rubble from that.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 30, 2025 12:16 PM (NwnyJ)
24Respect for human life is a joke in most of the world, but the West has managed to change that, by elevating the individual to primacy.
Years ago, a black Washington Post reporter wrote about his (unpleasant) time stationed in Africa, and came up with a simple rule - in First World countries, when there is a disaster, you know how many people died in the disaster.
In Africa, they don't count the dead after a disaster - you just have a rough estimate of how many people died.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 30, 2025 12:16 PM (xTIDn)
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:17 PM (O+H2/)
26
Same thing happened in London about a decade ago. The type of fire at least.
Posted by: Kolin at November 30, 2025 12:18 PM (uK5Gm)
27This is exactly the 3rd World sensibility that we are busily importing. Respect for human life is a joke in most of the world, but the West has managed to change that, by elevating the individual to primacy.
I was reading lefty threads on the Afghan assassin and their current argument is if a few Americans need to die to provide a safe haven for Muslims that is perfectly acceptable
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:20 PM (sKqQm)
28
Condolences to the families of the children who were shot.
As for the local rap community, sounds like it's time to call for common sense rap reform.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:21 PM (xA5Rj)
29Location and Context: The event took place at a banquet hall adjacent to an ice cream shop (initially misreported by some sources as occurring inside the shop). Stockton Vice Mayor Jason Lee confirmed it was a child's birthday celebration..
Occasionally we get video of urban shoot outs and...its like a rap video for real. People spraying and praying into crowds because the guy they want to shoot is in that general direction.
Cops will tell you rap videos are great because it has persuaded urban thugs to have terrible fire arm discipline...but it does mean almost inevitably a bunch of bystanders are going to get shot.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:22 PM (sKqQm)
30
23 China has an interesting history of residential buildings and their construction methodologies.
So, did Vlad the Impaler did of banquets, yet no one raised the question, and history views it with the strange envy which belies the obviousness of the Truth.
Posted by: MANFRED the Heat Seeking OBOE at November 30, 2025 12:22 PM (/UyRh)
the targets of the mass shooting tonight at a child’s party were Stockton based rappers MBnel and Fly Boy Doughy, whose daughter the party was reportedly for.
Confirmed: Ages of deceased are 30, 22, 14, 8 years old.
Posted by: olddog in mo at November 30, 2025 12:23 PM (bQ4nt)
32In Africa, they don't count the dead after a disaster - you just have a rough estimate of how many people died.
The Washington Post reporter had a funny story about trying to enter Angola, and the customs person claimed that the reporter's passport was a forgery (trying to solicit a bribe, of course).
The reporter responded: "You'll agree that if this passport is a forgery, it is a very high quality forgery, right?"
The customs official agreed.
The reporter continued: "And if I had such a high-quality forgery, wouldn't I be using it to leave Angola, rather than enter Angola?"
The customs official didn't have a response - obviously, no one would use a high-quality forged passport to enter Angola.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 30, 2025 12:23 PM (xTIDn)
33
Morning all. 36 out. Feel like 28 with wind.
Put the leftover ham & beans on for dinner.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2025 12:23 PM (3k5hk)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 30, 2025 12:25 PM (Rf+3o)
37
I was reading lefty threads on the Afghan assassin and their current argument is if a few Americans need to die to provide a safe haven for Muslims that is perfectly acceptable
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:20 PM (sKqQm)
I'm not sure who the shooter worked for, but apparently his brother was CIA. The shooter is said to have been working with military SF.
So when we look for solutions, not only should we not import people from third world shitholes, but we should also send every Spook working for 3 letter agencies and/or military "intelligence" operatives over to those third world shitholes.
They seem to function better there.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:26 PM (WRA0V)
38
Isn't it funny how the locales with the most stringent gun control laws generally also have the most shootings?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:26 PM (sKqQm)
39
This fire was set by those who oppose our contribution to modern urban life and culture.
Posted by: Big Bamboo at November 30, 2025 12:26 PM (oftw2)
40MBnel is a Filipino American rapper who has built his musical identity around his experiences growing up in Stockton. His stage name is a nod to his crew, the Muddy Boyz, and Mattie Harrell Park, a known gathering spot in his neighborhood.
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However, his affiliation with the Muddy Boyz has also drawn police scrutiny. In a 2020 gang investigation named “Operation Criptonyte,” which targeted several gangs including the Muddy Boyz Crips, MBnel (whose real name is Jhonel Dongon) was arrested on charges of false compartment activity and possession of a controlled substance.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 30, 2025 12:27 PM (xTIDn)
41
I was reading lefty threads on the Afghan assassin and their current argument is if a few Americans need to die to provide a safe haven for Muslims that is perfectly acceptable
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:20 PM (sKqQm)
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Omelets...eggs...that's usually how their argument goes.
42 So when we look for solutions, not only should we not import people from third world shitholes, but we should also send every Spook working for 3 letter agencies and/or military "intelligence" operatives over to those third world shitholes.
Taking a step back it should have been an immediate question to everyone as to why we were bringing Afghans to the US. The argument was these people are in danger from the Taliban and need to leave 'Stan...but the US has enough influence with a host of Muslim countries to have sent them their instead.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:28 PM (sKqQm)
43
Trouble is, when roasting Chinamen, an hour later-you wanna do it again.
Posted by: Wokking The Dog at November 30, 2025 12:28 PM (oftw2)
44
Wang Fuk… there’s a Thai restaurant in Redondo Beach called Phuket Thai…. I was always afraid to say the name of that place with the kids in the car… heh
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 30, 2025 12:28 PM (/iXAp)
45
33 Morning all. 36 out. Feel like 28 with wind.
Put the leftover ham & beans on for dinner.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2025 12:23 PM (3k5hk
Same here with the breeze bringing it like 28. I wish I had a big plate of mashed potatoes, dressing, giblet gravy, and cranberry sauce.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 12:28 PM (i+bC1)
46
Sunday afternoon at the laundromat.
The joys of operating on well water.
Posted by: RI Red at November 30, 2025 12:28 PM (Ehb6z)
Urban names are looking more and more like Star Wars names.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:29 PM (sKqQm)
48
The bamboo will be found to be the least flammable material.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2025 12:30 PM (6Egig)
49
I read that the bamboo scaffolding was "ubiquitous" in Hong Kong. Why? Is everything there "under construction" for tax reasons or something?
Posted by: pookysgirl, with a First World mindset at November 30, 2025 12:30 PM (Wt5PA)
50I'm not sure who the shooter worked for, but apparently his brother was CIA. The shooter is said to have been working with military SF.
There have been numerous comments on X from people who served in Afghanistan talking about how frequently our Afghan "allies" were working with the Taliban to kill American soldiers, and the precautions that they had to take to keep the Afghan "allies" from killing Americans.
This was not publicized, obviously.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 30, 2025 12:31 PM (xTIDn)
51
This is exactly the 3rd World sensibility that we are busily importing.
Don't forget 'communist'. Never forget the rich and storied history of Communist safety successes.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 30, 2025 12:32 PM (bss/y)
If you get a belly ache,
And you moan and groan with woe,
Don't forget,
I told you so.
Posted by: Larry Listeria at November 30, 2025 12:32 PM (oftw2)
53
MBnel (whose real name is Jhonel Dongon) was arrested on charges of false compartment activity and possession of a controlled substance.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 30, 2025 12:27 PM (xTIDn)
Good thing he was in prison then, or he might have been at that party.
..... What?
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:32 PM (X1yDi)
54
Wang Fuk… there’s a Thai restaurant in Redondo Beach called Phuket Thai…. I was always afraid to say the name of that place with the kids in the car… heh
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
Poo-ket
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 30, 2025 12:32 PM (Rf+3o)
55
Here's something. As many of you know, Dr. Robert Malone was one of Fauci's fiercest critics in the medical community about everything having to do with the china virus and particularly the vaccines. He got his hands on a letter written by Dr. Vinay Prisad at CBER detailing some of the findings of their review of the lies we were told and damage caused by the vaccines and it's bad, particularly for kids and young men.
The FDA appears ready to finally start telling the truth about the vaccines and equally important changing how they evaluate new vaccines. Worth a read.
https://tinyurl.com/484nmr3c
Posted by: JackStraw at November 30, 2025 12:32 PM (viF8m)
56was arrested on charges of false compartment activity
What the hell is "false compartment activity"?
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 30, 2025 12:33 PM (xTIDn)
57
The worst thing about incidents like this Stockton shooting is that we can’t talk honestly about who did it, or about the ghetto culture that glorifies them doing it. So most of us back into the default position of “fuk it, let them all kill each other, who gives a shit.”
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 12:33 PM (3U2FH)
58
American Standard is a thing Capice ?
Building Codes-Google it!
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at November 30, 2025 12:33 PM (VPPG8)
59
I was reading lefty threads on the Afghan assassin and their current argument is if a few Americans need to die to provide a safe haven for Muslims that is perfectly acceptable
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:20 PM (sKqQm)
I made the mistake of turning on the George Snuffalupagus show on ABC this morning… the news scumbag was interviewing Kristi Noem (whose lips are alarmingly large BTW… Botox injections?) and he just had to say something like “yeah the Afghan shooter came in during Biden but it was the Trump admin that approved his asylum claim in April… see it was your fault”…. He just ignores that it was the Biden admin that brought him in and did all the original “vetting” so that by the time April 2025 rolled around the approval was obviously totally based on info gathered (or not) prior to Trump…. I hate these news-scum with a hot burning passion
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 30, 2025 12:33 PM (/iXAp)
60
America runs industrial-scale corruption, not this penny-ante bribing the local building inspector stuff.
Posted by: Go big or go home! at November 30, 2025 12:34 PM (TbWk/)
61
There have been numerous comments on X from people who served in Afghanistan talking about how frequently our Afghan "allies" were working with the Taliban to kill American soldiers, and the precautions that they had to take to keep the Afghan "allies" from killing Americans.
This was not publicized, obviously.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 30, 2025 12:31 PM (xTIDn)
I've heard the same. Apparently the number of American GI killed by Afghan "allies" is a national security secret, but the number is not low.
And then of course we must bring those "allies" over here, so they can also kill civilians.
Isn't war wonderful?
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:35 PM (EWlvz)
62
Everything else is a distraction for electoral fraud.
Nothing has been done to address the issue. The communist Democrats realize it is still the key to gaining power.
There are substantial questions about the last election in places like NJ. Those questions are rooted in improbable statistical anomalies such as Democrat voter increases inconsistent with registration and population demographics. And yet nobody is paying attention. Not even Congress. As long as they view raising material, substantive questions about election as some kind of third-rail, Grassy Knoll adventure, we are headed for destruction, and yes, the third-world.
Posted by: Vengeance at November 30, 2025 12:35 PM (60OBK)
Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 12:35 PM (AOsQT)
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>>There have been numerous comments on X from people who served in Afghanistan talking about how frequently our Afghan "allies" were working with the Taliban to kill American soldiers, and the precautions that they had to take to keep the Afghan "allies" from killing Americans.
>>This was not publicized, obviously.
Tip of a very large iceberg. This was not a one off. This has been standard operating policy for the CIA and many western intel agencies since WWII.
It's not just the CIA that wants this covered up.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 30, 2025 12:36 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2025 12:36 PM (6Egig)
67
Poo-ket
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 30, 2025 12:32 PM (Rf+3o)
I always figured there was an accurate pronunciation other than the one that always immediately leapt into my mind… but I couldn’t help it; I saw that sign and FukIt was in my head
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 30, 2025 12:36 PM (/iXAp)
68
was arrested on charges of false compartment activity
What the hell is "false compartment activity"?
Posted by: The ARC of History
Making a hidden compartment in a vehicle that's not art of the original design. Used for smuggling contraband, drugs, etc.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 30, 2025 12:36 PM (Rf+3o)
69
What the hell is "false compartment activity"?
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 30, 2025 12:33 PM (xTIDn)
I assumed it's where the drugs are not just in your center console or glove box, but panels on the vehicle are removed, only to find things the car maker didn't put there.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:37 PM (lGyAR)
Capt Nim has entered Chat giving everyone the side-eye.
Yeah when you see a host nation troop pacing your compound, waterboarding is in that mutt's future.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2025 12:38 PM (6Egig)
74
Condolences to the families of the children who were shot.
As for the local rap community, sounds like it's time to call for common sense rap reform.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:21 PM (xA5Rj)
Rappers/gangbangers who can't even respect a kid's birthday party. Sad.
Posted by: pookysgirl, with a First World mindset at November 30, 2025 12:38 PM (Wt5PA)
75
Fourteen people were shot, four of the them fatally, at a family gathering in gun-controlled Stockton, California, Saturday around 6 p.m.
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Yeah? Well, if the gun had been on double secret probation this wouldn't have happened.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
They'll keep coming up with useless ideas that don't work and then eventually say, "if only we made guns illegal!"
Right Becky. Like it worked so well with drugs.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2025 12:39 PM (3k5hk)
76
> What the hell is "false compartment activity"?
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it's that thing when the cops pull you over and you hide your stash under the seat
Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 12:39 PM (AOsQT)
77
Very true about the bribery and corruption accepted everywhere but the West. We have a friend, rich businessman from Indonesia, who said he puts all his factories in the US even though it's more expensive bc you can enforce a contract in the courts.
But it's coming here too. I quit a job when the immigrant boss handed me a bag of cash "so we don't have to pay taxes." I quit.
Posted by: Random PJ at November 30, 2025 12:40 PM (RRCAT)
78
16 Wang Fuk Court??
Posted by: dantesed at November 30, 2025 12:13 PM (Oy/m2)
Adjacent to Holi Fuk and Wadta Fuk courts
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 12:40 PM (QGaXH)
79
The worst thing about incidents like this Stockton shooting is that we can’t talk honestly about who did it, or about the ghetto culture that glorifies them doing it. So most of us back into the default position of “fuk it, let them all kill each other, who gives a shit.”
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 12:33 PM (3U2FH)
I was traveling through reservation lands yesterday, and not only are they third world shitholes, but every road sign it seems has some scribbling type markings on them.
So yeah, I'm not really joking when I say gangs/rappers/tribes mark their territories.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:40 PM (A/QNE)
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2025 12:41 PM (6Egig)
81He just ignores that it was the Biden admin that brought him in and did all the original “vetting”
That was the point of the so-called "Muslim ban" - that it is impossible to vet people from certain countries, either because the country's government is hostile, or because the country's government is so dysfunctional that there are no central police records.
Afghanistan and Somalia come to mind.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 30, 2025 12:41 PM (xTIDn)
Rep. Jasmine Crockett claims President Trump should focus on deporting so-called “white supremacists” instead of potential foreign terrorists.
https://tinyurl.com/4bsa68jx
Posted by: redridinghood at November 30, 2025 12:43 PM (NpAcC)
84
We must arm all children at birthday parties in urban areas. Little .22 revolvers. Give them a fighting chance.
Posted by: Shoot Out The Candles at November 30, 2025 12:44 PM (oftw2)
85
Tip of a very large iceberg. This was not a one off. This has been standard operating policy for the CIA and many western intel agencies since WWII.
It's not just the CIA that wants this covered up.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 30, 2025 12:36 PM (viF8m)
Another thing we can't talk about is how many of the "Special Forces" types are NOT GI Joe, with the rock jaw, saluting flags everywhere he goes, but antisocial types who are recruited precisely because they like killing.
And when they get back here, they beat their wives, they're on drugs, they do all kinds of petty crimes that happen on these military posts, like Ft. Bragg, and much of what they do gets swept under the rug.
Even murders.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:44 PM (Rn6Z4)
86
Fourteen people were shot, four of the them fatally, at a family gathering in gun-controlled Stockton, California, Saturday around 6 p.m.
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Yeah? Well, if the gun had been on double secret probation this wouldn't have happened.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
They'll keep coming up with useless ideas that don't work and then eventually say, "if only we made guns illegaL
See, if they disrespect you, just pop a cap in they ass.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 12:44 PM (i+bC1)
Rep. Jasmine Crockett claims President Trump should focus on deporting so-called “white supremacists” instead of potential foreign terrorists.
https://tinyurl.com/4bsa68jx
Posted by: redridinghood at November 30, 2025 12:43 PM (NpAcC)
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Hmmm...Deport "white supremacists" back to Europe? That could make things very interesting for those governments as they continue to import Muslim invaders from North Africa and the Middle East.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2025 12:45 PM (6Egig)
90
Is Hong Kong still "semi-autonomous" (if it ever really was) or is it 100% CCP controlled now?
100% ccp
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 30, 2025 12:46 PM (AsaWd)
91
Wang Fuk Court??
Posted by: dantesed at November 30, 2025 12:13 PM (Oy/m2)
Adjacent to Holi Fuk and Wadta Fuk courts
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 12:40 PM (QGaXH)
I'm assuming Judge Wapner not presiding.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:46 PM (Gei+t)
92Rep. Jasmine Crockett claims President Trump should focus on deporting so-called “white supremacists” instead of potential foreign terrorists.
https://tinyurl.com/4bsa68jx
*tentatively raises hand*
If white supremacists are as numerous and powerful as you say they are, why are you still here, in Congress, unharmed?
I'll wait.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2025 12:47 PM (Riz8t)
93
> that it is impossible to vet people from certain countries, either because
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because those people come from cultures that are incompatible with modern enlightened societies
Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 12:49 PM (AOsQT)
94
68 Making a hidden compartment in a vehicle that's not art of the original design. Used for smuggling contraband, drugs, etc.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 30, 2025 12:36 PM (Rf+3o)
I hope that's only a 'crime' if attached to other criminal activity. It's my vehicle - I'll do what I want with it, thank you.
These are screwy laws that mess with our basic liberty to go about our business as we please. For example, I understand from watching the 'Cops' show - it's a crime to take my prescription pills out of their labeled container, place them in a baggie and carry it in my pocket for use later?
What the almighty f***????
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 30, 2025 12:50 PM (QGaXH)
95
Apparently being an inner city rapper is also incompatible with Western civilization.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2025 12:50 PM (6Egig)
It captures all the emerging social pathologies but still focuses on some old white guy screwed by the system and presents him, ultimately, as the villain.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:51 PM (sKqQm)
98Rep. Jasmine Crockett claims President Trump should focus on deporting so-called “white supremacists” instead of potential foreign terrorists.
So she wants Trump to deport FBI agents?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:51 PM (sKqQm)
99
If white supremacists are as numerous and powerful as you say they are, why are you still here, in Congress, unharmed?
I'll wait.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2025 12:47 PM (Riz8t)
Jazzy was born and raised in West St. Louis County. Where all the "white supremacists" live in bazillion dollar houses. She attended all the swanky schools, alongside the budding "white supremacists" who run everything.
What do we learn from this?
That Jazzy Crockett is a construct of those very same "white supremacists" who run everything. Including finding black females who look like they might have a political future.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:52 PM (LTnl5)
Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 12:53 PM (AOsQT)
103
Dealing with the Indiana BMV online seems to cut off major opportunities for graft. Just a little bite.
Transaction Fee:
$0.89
for a license renewal.
Posted by: DaveA at November 30, 2025 12:53 PM (FhXTo)
104
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Hmmm...Deport "white supremacists" back to Europe? That could make things very interesting for those governments as they continue to import Muslim invaders from North Africa and the Middle East.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 30, 2025 12:45 PM (IBQGV)
*******
In Crockett's world everyone on this blog is a white supremacist.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 30, 2025 12:54 PM (NpAcC)
105
76 > What the hell is "false compartment activity"?
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it's that thing when the cops pull you over and you hide your stash under the seat
Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 12:39 PM (AOsQT)
I drive the speed limit, 'cause there's drugs in the car
If I went too fast, I wouldn't get too far
I'd get pulled over and they'd have a look at my eyes
But then they'd let me go, 'cause of the casual way I drive
Posted by: Boy, yer drivin' the speed limit, that's suspicious at November 30, 2025 12:55 PM (TbWk/)
106
"62 Everything else is a distraction for electoral fraud.
Nothing has been done to address the issue. The communist Democrats realize it is still the key to gaining power.
There are substantial questions about the last election in places like NJ. Those questions are rooted in improbable statistical anomalies such as Democrat voter increases inconsistent with registration and population demographics. And yet nobody is paying attention. Not even Congress. As long as they view raising material, substantive questions about election as some kind of third-rail, Grassy Knoll adventure, we are headed for destruction, and yes, the third-world.
Posted by: Vengeance at November 30, 2025 12:35 PM (60OBK)"
every freakin' word of THIS!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 30, 2025 12:55 PM (Cjt/F)
107
Rep. Jasmine Crockett claims President Trump should focus on deporting so-called “white supremacists” instead of potential foreign terrorists.
https://tinyurl.com/4bsa68jx
Posted by: redridinghood at November 30, 2025 12:43 PM (NpAcC)
Crockett continues to redefine stupidity.
I wonder if she realizes her name is appropriated from a white land-grabbing settler?
Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2025 12:55 PM (y3bZw)
It captures all the emerging social pathologies but still focuses on some old white guy screwed by the system and presents him, ultimately, as the villain.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:51 PM (sKqQm)
Speaking of movies that have become documentaries, I was watching Hot Shots 2 the other day.
The whole premise of the movie is a bunch of Americans who were captured, we send more forces over to get them out, only to have them captured. Rinse, lather, repeat.
So they go find Charlie Sheen on a reservation, speaking Indian with the natives living in teepees, and bring him back to get our boys back. Meanwhile, the corrupt CIA lady has her own plans.
Meanwhile, the president is Lloyd Bridges, who is damn near identical to Sleepy Joe.
Except Lloyd is actually funny.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:56 PM (z1j+k)
109
Jasmine Crockett still has a way to go before she rivals Maisey Hirano.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 30, 2025 12:56 PM (6Egig)
110The worst thing about incidents like this Stockton shooting is that we can’t talk honestly about who did it, or about the ghetto culture that glorifies them doing it. So most of us back into the default position of “fuk it, let them all kill each other, who gives a shit.”
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 12:33 PM
The problem with that attitude is they don't stop with killing each other.
Speaking of ghetto culture...
Amiri King @AmiriKing
Garbage ass culture.
This rampant subway theft would be so easy to fix but it seems that everyone in a position of power is completely incompetent.
Might as well hang up some inflatable dartboards while you’re at it.
X video: https://bit.ly/4rkVSeO
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 30, 2025 12:57 PM (P5BPp)
111
Jasmine Crockett is playing a character… she’s an actor, a radio shock jock… she doesn’t believe a word her own mouth utters. It’s all performance art.. and she doesn’t even do it very well. That she gets any attention at all is an indication of how our political culture has completely collapsed
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 30, 2025 12:58 PM (xT8gx)
112
It might be that the HK fire is indicative of Threeth World culture, but shocking nonetheless that it is in HK, given how that city is compared to the rest of the PRC.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 12:59 PM (4786I)
113
New York City is the same. Rotten since the Tammany holidays and the inspectors are routinely bribed. You're on your own as far as safety is concerned, so stay frosty....
I did meet One honest inspector, an American (iykwim), and he busted the landlord, BLDG Management, for electrical code violations in our 5-floor walkup. $25,000. But the most dangerous wiring, ha told me, was grandfathered in.
BLDG was a huge company that had about 4,000 apartments and was run by Lloyd Goldman. Look him up. And one of the cute things they would do is they would gut-renovate vacated Apartments and put in a control panel for the electricity and tell their new tenants they had 60 amps to play with... but the line to the cellar was still a 15 amp line so they constantly be tripping their circuit breakers.
Posted by: Beverly at November 30, 2025 01:00 PM (Epeb0)
It captures all the emerging social pathologies but still focuses on some old white guy screwed by the system and presents him, ultimately, as the villain.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:51 PM (sKqQm)
I think he's more of an anti-hero. An everyman who finally cracks under the system that he unquestioningly served for so long.
"I'm the bad guy?... How did that happen? I did everything they told me to."
Posted by: Not economically viable at November 30, 2025 01:01 PM (TbWk/)
115
You have to admit it, "Wang Fuk Court" would be an awesome name for a brothel complex.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 01:01 PM (npFr7)
116
That she gets any attention at all is an indication of how our political culture has completely collapsed
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 30, 2025 12:58 PM (xT8gx)
It's not taken seriously anymore as an arena of ideas and debate. Why should it with people like Crocked (h/t, RWP) running around?
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:01 PM (4786I)
117New York City is the same. Rotten since the Tammany holidays and the inspectors are routinely bribed. You're on your own as far as safety is concerned, so stay frosty....
Netflix has a 4-episode series on the assassination of James Garfield. (Death by Lightning)
It's interesting, but the best thing is the stellar cast. They are first rate.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2025 01:02 PM (Riz8t)
118
90 Is Hong Kong still "semi-autonomous" (if it ever really was) or is it 100% CCP controlled now?
100% ccp
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 30, 2025 12:46 PM (AsaWd)
The CPC does run it but they abide by the 1984 agreement. HK still has its own postal system and currency.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:02 PM (4786I)
119
Speaking of gang bangers, there was an interesting episode of ID's Who Hired the Hitman? A fairly wealthy, elderly family man who was a mob associate survived eight or ten assassination attempts. Not only did his repeated survival not speak to mob involvement but the manner of the attempts was amateurish. Finally, they got him. He was boxed in at a McDonald's drive through when the shooter ran up to his car and fired at point blank range four times. The cops finally figured it out. His middle aged son hired the Bloods to kill him (and his brother) so he could inherit the empire free and clear.
So if you absolutely, positively need the target killed on the first attempt, don't hire the Bloods.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 30, 2025 01:03 PM (L/fGl)
It captures all the emerging social pathologies but still focuses on some old white guy screwed by the system and presents him, ultimately, as the villain.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:51 PM (sKqQm)
From what I have seen of it, the movie should be renamed "Assholes Collide". Everyone in it is a disgusting piece of shit to their fellow man for no other reason other than they can be.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:04 PM (4786I)
121
111 Jasmine Crockett is playing a character… she’s an actor, a radio shock jock… she doesn’t believe a word her own mouth utters. It’s all performance art.. and she doesn’t even do it very well. That she gets any attention at all is an indication of how our political culture has completely collapsed
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 30, 2025 12:58 PM (xT8gx)
Yes, her ratchet ghetto hoodrat act is entirely performative. It's the Democrats' racist stereotype of an "authentic" strong sassy black woman.
The party of the KKK perpetuating denigrating stereotypes of black people? I shan't believe it.
Posted by: I simply shannot at November 30, 2025 01:06 PM (TbWk/)
122
Speaking of gang bangers, there was an interesting episode of ID's Who Hired the Hitman? A fairly wealthy, elderly family man who was a mob associate survived eight or ten assassination attempts. Not only did his repeated survival not speak to mob involvement but the manner of the attempts was amateurish. Finally, they got him. He was boxed in at a McDonald's drive through when the shooter ran up to his car and fired at point blank range four times. The cops finally figured it out. His middle aged son hired the Bloods to kill him (and his brother) so he could inherit the empire free and clear.
So if you absolutely, positively need the target killed on the first attempt, don't hire the Bloods.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 30, 2025 01:03 PM (L/fGl)
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*** Agent 47 was unavailable for comment ***
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 12:17 PM (O+H2/)
Well, I guess gang-bangers are ethnic, for some values of "ethnic".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 01:07 PM (npFr7)
125
Heading to my aunt's for family Christmas arts and crafts
See you later
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 01:07 PM (Ia/+0)
126
I watched an interview that Glen Beck did with the lady CEO of Cracker Barrel and her president of operations. Of course the focus is on their recent branding fiasco with their logo temporarily going away from the old traditional to a new sterile one…. My major takeaway is that C-suite people are totally divorced from reality… they talk in exec lingo no other human beings use and I can’t believe a word they said. Beck actually treated them with kid gloves…. I don’t think they’re humans; they act more like pods
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 30, 2025 01:08 PM (xT8gx)
127
111 Jasmine Crockett is playing a character… she’s an actor, a radio shock jock… she doesn’t believe a word her own mouth utters. It’s all performance art.. and she doesn’t even do it very well. That she gets any attention at all is an indication of how our political culture has completely collapsed
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 30, 2025 12:58 PM (xT8gx)
Agreed - what worries me is that she has a powerful and well financed group backing her.
She's going to be the Texas Dem's candidate for the US Senate in 2026. Not kidding at all.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 01:08 PM (uWKK8)
128
Vetting of in-country assets on the battlefield was never perfect, nor was it a static process. It often had a shelf life as you determined the reliability of that asset, what other assets said about that person, or whether the Tali got to their families and turned them. There were a lot of Afghans with whom we had casual or pedestrian contact, or whom during the course of operations “helped” us. But there were probably a handful who were ultimately deemed reliable or trustworthy. That latter group are the people some guys when to bat for when Biden was abandoning the country. It’s definitely not all of the people that were allowed to settle here. It’s also important to remember what I first stated. That is, we couldn’t really fully “vet” people in-country. It was ultimately based on contact. Ergo, there is zero way to reliably vet these people once they’re here. Overall, in general, I wouldn’t trust people the agency deemed as assets unless it came from someone in operations. See Camp Chapman as one example why.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 30, 2025 01:10 PM (APX1w)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 30, 2025 01:14 PM (XeU6L)
131
Agreed - what worries me is that she has a powerful and well financed group backing her.
She's going to be the Texas Dem's candidate for the US Senate in 2026. Not kidding at all.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 01:08 PM (uWKK
That is…. Depressing. What about Colin Allred? Wouldn’t he beat her in the primary… I think he’s running (again)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 30, 2025 01:14 PM (xT8gx)
132
I wonder if LBJ thought about what the "black community" would look like after a few generations of his Great Society building ghettos, subsidizing single motherhood, and creating intergenerational government dependence. I know he knew he'd "have those naggers voting Democrat for the next 200 years," but it does make me curious if had a picture in his head of the outcomes.
Posted by: Probably didn't care that much either way at November 30, 2025 01:15 PM (TbWk/)
133
Agreed - what worries me is that she has a powerful and well financed group backing her.
She's going to be the Texas Dem's candidate for the US Senate in 2026. Not kidding at all.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 01:08 PM (uWKK
The money people behind the Democrat Party are always looking for the new Bobama.
Cummilla was a dismal failure. This one shows... promise.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:15 PM (hdZBB)
134
>I wonder if LBJ thought about what the "black community" would look like after a few generations of his Great Society
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nope
just the votes that could be had
Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 01:17 PM (AOsQT)
135
I wonder if LBJ thought about what the "black community" would look like after a few generations of his Great Society building ghettos, subsidizing single motherhood, and creating intergenerational government dependence. I know he knew he'd "have those naggers voting Democrat for the next 200 years," but it does make me curious if had a picture in his head of the outcomes.
Posted by: Probably didn't care that much either way at November 30, 2025 01:15 PM (TbWk/)
Where are Johnson's offspring?
I assume living a life of comfort, sufficiently insulated from the effects of his efforts.
Now, he's being pitchfork raped by Satan every day, but if he were still alive I think he'd be proud of what he accomplished.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:18 PM (O+H2/)
136
Meanwhile, we continue to buy all manner of products from said third world shitholes. No regard for their own people, so what do they care about us?
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at November 30, 2025 01:18 PM (MZ+PY)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 30, 2025 01:19 PM (L/fGl)
138
Overall, in general, I wouldn’t trust people the agency deemed as assets unless it came from someone in operations. See Camp Chapman as one example why.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 30, 2025 01:10 PM (APX1w)
I recall a few Government requests for papers and then bids for "Countering the Insider Threat." Couched in terms of Americans stealing secrets, but mostly for figuring out how to tell which Tali "ally" wasn't going to start shooting you.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2025 01:20 PM (y3bZw)
139
I know he knew he'd "have those naggers voting Democrat for the next 200 years," but it does make me curious if had a picture in his head of the outcomes.
Posted by: Probably didn't care that much either way
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As with all Democrats, his concern was entirely with political power/control. The well-being of the country does not figure into their thoughts, period.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 30, 2025 01:20 PM (XeU6L)
140
If you want some idea of how long the CIA has been training indigenous and off the books armies in countries they were looking to destabilize read about Operation Gladio. Not a conspiracy theory, well documented fact. And it's not just the CIA.
And Afghanis weren't the first group we imported into the US.
https://tinyurl.com/zs328569
Posted by: JackStraw at November 30, 2025 01:23 PM (viF8m)
141
Meanwhile, we continue to buy all manner of products from said third world shitholes. No regard for their own people, so what do they care about us?
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at November 30, 2025 01:18 PM (MZ+PY)
Chocolate is harvested by child slaves.
Think about that when you are enjoying your Christmas treats!
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:23 PM (sfOD1)
142
there's little or no altruism in politics
everybody is in it for their own purposes, whether it's to enrich themselves, have their egos massaged, settle scores, etc.
I see the Repubs and the Dems locked in a death struggle to one-up each other. George Carlin likened it to two groups waving their dicks at each other. Forget the collateral damage that is you and me. This is why I despise the Congress of the United States with the burning white hot intensity of a thousand suns.
Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 01:23 PM (AOsQT)
143
One of LBJ's kids married a long time Dem party grifter - Chuck Robb, the other daughter made her money directly grifting.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 01:24 PM (sKqQm)
144 the targets of the mass shooting tonight at a child’s party were Stockton based rappers MBnel and Fly Boy Doughy, whose daughter the party was reportedly for.
Posted by: olddog
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Gay rappers?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 30, 2025 01:25 PM (n7rxJ)
145
I recall a few Government requests for papers and then bids for "Countering the Insider Threat." Couched in terms of Americans stealing secrets, but mostly for figuring out how to tell which Tali "ally" wasn't going to start shooting you.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2025 01:20 PM (y3bZw)
The problem of trying to figure out who "the good ones" are is, you started with a corrupt process, and then spent 20 years trying to overcome a flawed and imprecise method of figuring out who you could trust.
Then there's the whole thing about CIA being a corrupt and untrustworthy institution itself. If they're the ones doing the vetting.....
The net result: Dead Americans.
Which is not a sustainable thing. You have to toss the whole factory. Burn it to the ground, and start over.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:27 PM (Ws+88)
146
1. Stop issuing visas. 2. Deport all male Muslims of military age.
Posted by: Going deep. Out. at November 30, 2025 01:27 PM (jt/rW)
147the targets of the mass shooting tonight at a child’s party were Stockton based rappers MBnel and Fly Boy Doughy, whose daughter the party was reportedly for.
Posted by: olddog
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Gay rappers?
Rap has been around for over 50 years. I keep waiting for it to die a painful and well-deserved death.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 30, 2025 01:27 PM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 01:29 PM (AOsQT)
150
141 Meanwhile, we continue to buy all manner of products from said third world shitholes. No regard for their own people, so what do they care about us?
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at November 30, 2025 01:18 PM (MZ+PY)
Chocolate is harvested by child slaves.
Think about that when you are enjoying your Christmas treats!
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:23 PM (sfOD1)
Pretty much everything we get from overseas is harvested, mined, refined, processed, manufactured and assembled by slave or near-slave labor in atrocious conditions and zero occupational condition or environmental regulation. Metals and rare earth minerals for EV batteries? Slave labor, strip mining, and massive contamination. Clothing is especially bad. Every single woman who purchases a pair of Jimmy Choos or Manolo Blahniks or whatever the fuck is supporting child slave labor.
Posted by: BUT BUT BUT MUH FREE TRADE at November 30, 2025 01:29 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 01:30 PM (AOsQT)
153
I see the Repubs and the Dems locked in a death struggle to one-up each other. George Carlin likened it to two groups waving their dicks at each other. Forget the collateral damage that is you and me. This is why I despise the Congress of the United States with the burning white hot intensity of a thousand suns.
Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 01:23 PM (AOsQT)
Carlin was generally right in his diagnosis but he was basically a communist (Democrat) so his solution was worse than the disease. And oddly enough so much of what he railed against the Democrats were doing left and right, but put the blame mostly on Republicans and Christians (whom he hated with a passion).
Posted by: Cognitive dissonance I guess at November 30, 2025 01:32 PM (TbWk/)
154
One of LBJ's kids married a long time Dem party grifter - Chuck Robb, the other daughter made her money directly grifting.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 01:24 PM (sKqQm)
I assume none of their kids are waitressing at a Dennys?
Or passing out welfare benefits at a state office?
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:33 PM (khVJI)
155
>> I recall a few Government requests for papers and then bids for "Countering the Insider Threat." Couched in terms of Americans stealing secrets, but mostly for figuring out how to tell which Tali "ally" wasn't going to start shooting you.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2025 01:20 PM (y3bZw)
Sir, there were far too many agency people with Ivy League degrees in psychology trying to build a profile on assets, and not enough of the operational/SO people like Johnny Spann. When we first started dropping in ODA’s at the beginning, they were invaluable. Most could speak the language, knew the culture, had reliable contacts and could pick up just about any weapon on the battlefield and fight. At some sad point that got traded for people who didn’t make a third of that contribution IMVHO.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 30, 2025 01:35 PM (JW6Az)
Saim Irgi — an illegal alien from Turkey — has a violent history of strangling & assault.
During apprehension, Irgi attempted to grab an officer’s taser & yelled, “Allahu Akbar.”
Irgi entered the US illegally via Mexico under Biden.
-1 in New York
https://tinyurl.com/34b646kx
Posted by: redridinghood at November 30, 2025 01:35 PM (NpAcC)
157
Clothing is especially bad. Every single woman who purchases a pair of Jimmy Choos or Manolo Blahniks or whatever the fuck is supporting child slave labor.
Posted by: BUT BUT BUT MUH FREE TRADE at November 30, 2025 01:29 PM (TbWk/)
How did they come up with the name, Jimmy Choo?
Is that from the children in the factory trying to eat the leather?
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:36 PM (tXY4l)
158
There are a class of libertines, like Carlin, that just won't get that they ONLY get to do there thing in a mostly conservative Christian society.
Absent that Christian background you get an increasingly authoritarian regime that will not allow libertine activities for the plebes.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 01:38 PM (sKqQm)
159
4 Read yesterday the Chi-Com are harassing people for helping their neighbors with food, shelter and other assistance
That's the governments job.
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 12:07 PM (Ia/+0)
Our government wants the same. Hence the government is AT WAR with civil society. Make no mistake.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:38 PM (4786I)
160
How did they come up with the name, Jimmy Choo?
Is that from the children in the factory trying to eat the leather?
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:36 PM (tXY4l)
A sneeze.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:38 PM (4786I)
Posted by: redridinghood at November 30, 2025 01:35 PM (NpAcC)
Oh no! I'm afraid to ask what he did.
Posted by: Didn't Read the Rest at November 30, 2025 01:39 PM (sfOD1)
162But the breathtaking thievery of the 3rd World is a level that we have never even approached here.
Yes and no. Recall that the Japan Rail employees who consulted on California's high speed rail project said that California was far more corrupt than the Muslim countries in Africa that they had worked with.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 30, 2025 01:40 PM (QZThv)
Think about that when you are enjoying your Christmas treats!
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:23 PM (sfOD1)
I will. For about two seconds.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:40 PM (4786I)
164
Here is a message from the Andrew Wolfe's mother. He's the National Guardsman who is still hospitalized in critical condition:
https://tinyurl.com/3tjs9fka
Posted by: IrishEi at November 30, 2025 01:41 PM (3ImbR)
165
150 ...Pretty much everything we get from overseas is harvested, mined, refined, processed, manufactured and assembled by slave or near-slave labor in atrocious conditions and zero occupational condition or environmental regulation. Metals and rare earth minerals for EV batteries? Slave labor, strip mining, and massive contamination. Clothing is especially bad. Every single woman who purchases a pair of Jimmy Choos or Manolo Blahniks or whatever the fuck is supporting child slave labor.
Posted by: BUT BUT BUT MUH FREE TRADE at November 30, 2025 01:29 PM (TbWk/)
A basis of free trade is the principle of comparative advantage; Country A is good at making one thing, and Country B is good at making another. Why force each country to do what they're bad at when you can simply have them trade with each other instead.
America has over 330 million people in it (well, 300mm if you deport the illegals). We're the 4th largest country in land mass in the world. You can't tell me that we can't be making most of what we get from the world within our borders, and it would be pretty good and fairly cheap. I keep hearing how backwards Mississippi is (it's not) - we can't make anything there?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025 01:41 PM (0CU3H)
166
When I was working in Hong Kong in the early 90's, when it was still a British colony, I noticed that the scaffolding they used was not metal but bamboo.
Now throw in CCP control and even laxer building standards and you have a recipe for disaster.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 30, 2025 01:42 PM (BAdM1)
167
That is…. Depressing. What about Colin Allred? Wouldn’t he beat her in the primary… I think he’s running (again)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 30, 2025 01:14 PM (xT8gx)
She's got twice his numbers in current Dem party polls. Think about it from a dem party perspective, and realize they're both playing mainly to black voters, small part of the total voters in Texas, but as much as 50% of the Dem primary vote:
Allred: Kind of quiet, ex football player, meant to be unthreatening to white people,
Crockett - Loud, in your face Ghetto Girl who's good at trash talk and shouting down anyone who goes face to face with her in any kind of uncontrolled setting.
Crockett is what Dem voters want right now. Allred couldn't last 5 minutes in a debate with her, not unless he promised to go all Ike Turner on her ass.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 01:42 PM (uWKK8)
168
Posted by: BUT BUT BUT MUH FREE TRADE at November 30, 2025 01:29 PM (TbWk/)
Measure the amount of anti-free trade you are.
That is the exact amount of anti-freedom you are.
For me, I like free trade with everyone, as long as it isn't the PRC. Or other hostiles. (And if you won't allow the same access to your markets that you demand of ours, out come the tariffs until you cry uncle.)
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:43 PM (4786I)
Think about that when you are enjoying your Christmas treats!
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:23 PM (sfOD1)
There never is a Pay Day.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 30, 2025 01:43 PM (LjSYW)
170There are a class of libertines, like Carlin, that just won't get that they ONLY get to do there thing in a mostly conservative Christian society.
Absent that Christian background you get an increasingly authoritarian regime that will not allow libertine activities for the plebes.
Yup. It's notable that all of the major pillars of modern globalism are oriented towards more freedom for the elites and none for everyone else.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 30, 2025 01:44 PM (QZThv)
171
One other point, the kind of graft we are noting here in the third world is NORMAL unfortunately. This is the default state of mankind.
It was Christian Europe that found a different way to work...and then of course later mostly threw it away...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 01:44 PM (sKqQm)
172
there were far too many agency people with Ivy League degrees in psychology trying to build a profile on assets, and not enough of the operational/SO people like Johnny Spann. When we first started dropping in ODA’s at the beginning, they were invaluable. Most could speak the language, knew the culture, had reliable contacts and could pick up just about any weapon on the battlefield and fight. At some sad point that got traded for people who didn’t make a third of that contribution IMVHO.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 30, 2025 01:35 PM (JW6Az)
Amad Shah Massoud would have been a good bet but bin ladin killed him on 9/10/01.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 01:45 PM (i+bC1)
173
What the hell is "false compartment activity"?
Oh, that's easy - When a trans 'woman' tries to play hide the sausage with her new beau.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 30, 2025 01:45 PM (cYBz/)
Posted by: Going deep. Out at November 30, 2025 01:45 PM (URO9T)
175
Agreed - what worries me is that she has a powerful and well financed group backing her.
She's going to be the Texas Dem's candidate for the US Senate in 2026. Not kidding at all.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 01:08 PM (uWKK
It is a worry and a concern.
Countering that, so did Beto Pancho. And look at what happened to him.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:46 PM (4786I)
Think about that when you are enjoying your Christmas treats!
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:23 PM (sfOD1)
There never is a Pay Day.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 30, 2025 01:43 PM (LjSYW
It’s oompa loompas in the chocolate game.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 01:46 PM (i+bC1)
Think about that when you are enjoying your Christmas treats!
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:23 PM (sfOD1)
Mmmm. Chocolate.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 30, 2025 01:47 PM (g8Ew8)
178
174 Also visa overstays. Deport.
Posted by: Going deep. Out at November 30, 2025 01:45 PM (URO9T
This is why the CBP should be checking everyone's passports, coming AND going, as is done in the Schengen Zone, Japan, the ROK and Australia.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:47 PM (4786I)
179
I keep hearing how backwards Mississippi is (it's not) - we can't make anything there?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025 01:41 PM (0CU3H)
People like to say that Mississippi is backwards - but they're generally quite surprised to learn that Mississippi has a higher GDP per capita than the UK does.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 01:47 PM (uWKK8)
180
Pope Leo: Palestinian state 'only' solution to Israeli conflict
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Fine with me so long as it's located in Vatican City.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 30, 2025 01:48 PM (L/fGl)
181For me, I like free trade with everyone, as long as it isn't the PRC. Or other hostiles. (And if you won't allow the same access to your markets that you demand of ours, out come the tariffs until you cry uncle.)
Tariffs should also apply to factors that are gained by violating obvious standards, like child labor, slave or coerced labor, pollution, etc. As long as the 19th amendment stands you'll never be able to roll back environmental regulations here, so you need to start enforcing them there to get actual free trade.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 30, 2025 01:48 PM (QZThv)
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A basis of free trade is the principle of comparative advantage; Country A is good at making one thing, and Country B is good at making another. Why force each country to do what they're bad at when you can simply have them trade with each other instead.
America has over 330 million people in it (well, 300mm if you deport the illegals). We're the 4th largest country in land mass in the world. You can't tell me that we can't be making most of what we get from the world within our borders, and it would be pretty good and fairly cheap. I keep hearing how backwards Mississippi is (it's not) - we can't make anything there?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025 01:41 PM (0CU3H)
The people who rag on "free trade" are complaining about those things our politicians and elites decided to do about unions and the cost of labor: Export our jobs, and import that cheap goods that come back (with themselves getting rich).
That's not "free trade." That's a controlled economy, no more or less so than communism. Only this time, American fatcats did it.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:49 PM (A/QNE)
183
The problem with Mississippi is that you couldn't get any of the company management to move there.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 30, 2025 01:51 PM (+mUZM)
Countering that, so did Beto Pancho. And look at what happened to him.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:46 PM (4786I)
I don't think she has a chance in a statewide race - because Hispanic voters, especially hispanic men, hate the trash talking ghetto girl type even more than the anglos do. They've got way too much experience with them in their day to day lives.
The Dem's 30 year mistake in Texas has been to think that Hispanics and Black voters can make common ground, but they hate each other more than either of them hate anglos.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 01:51 PM (uWKK8)
185
There never is a Pay Day.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 30, 2025 01:43 PM (LjSYW)
Almond Joy's got nuts.
Mounds is made at the girl slave factory.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:52 PM (GjxrJ)
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179 I keep hearing how backwards Mississippi is (it's not) - we can't make anything there?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025 01:41 PM (0CU3H)
People like to say that Mississippi is backwards - but they're generally quite surprised to learn that Mississippi has a higher GDP per capita than the UK does.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 01:47 PM (uWKK
Exactly. Here's an interesting map comparing each US state's GDP with a corresponding country:
https://is.gd/js3Qn7
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025 01:52 PM (0CU3H)
187
Far-right white supremacists are the major threat? No.
Here's a meme of the British version of the true situation. Substitute as-needed for the US version -
https://tinyurl.com/yntjh2px
Posted by: Gref at November 30, 2025 01:52 PM (5rh/l)
188
Trump ought to interrupt WH pressers occasionally, starting tomorrow, with news for the fucking affordability communists, including those with press passes in the room, that gas is about $2.50 most everywhere, and eggs are $1.95.
Posted by: M. Gaga at November 30, 2025 01:53 PM (KiBMU)
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 01:53 PM (i+bC1)
190
America has over 330 million people in it (well, 300mm if you deport the illegals). We're the 4th largest country in land mass in the world. You can't tell me that we can't be making most of what we get from the world within our borders, and it would be pretty good and fairly cheap. I keep hearing how backwards Mississippi is (it's not) - we can't make anything there?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025 01:41 PM (0CU3H)
We should be doing anything we want here. The problem is that the United States has 330 million whining little babies who shoot themselves in the foot and then immediately blame everyone and anyone for their very own failings. Americans love to vote in people who do everything possible to either run off businesses or prevent them from starting up, and then they get all bent out of shape when they leave town. We should be DEMANDING our government make things easier for those who want to set up shop here. We should be doing things that make it enticing to operate here, if you are a citizen of this country or are from elsewhere. But we do not.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:54 PM (4786I)
191
Here is a message from the Andrew Wolfe's mother. He's the National Guardsman who is still hospitalized in critical condition:
https://tinyurl.com/3tjs9fka
Posted by: IrishEi at November 30, 2025 01:41 PM (3ImbR)
******
🙏
Thanks for the update.
It's sounds as if he was shot in the head, but I am not sure as it hasn't officially been reported.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 30, 2025 01:55 PM (NpAcC)
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188 Trump ought to interrupt WH pressers occasionally, starting tomorrow, with news for the fucking affordability communists, including those with press passes in the room, that gas is about $2.50 most everywhere, and eggs are $1.95.
Posted by: M. Gaga at November 30, 2025 01:53 PM (KiBMU)
$2.50? I topped off for $2.27.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:55 PM (4786I)
193
The people who rag on "free trade" are complaining about those things our politicians and elites decided to do about unions and the cost of labor: Export our jobs, and import that cheap goods that come back (with themselves getting rich).
That's not "free trade." That's a controlled economy, no more or less so than communism. Only this time, American fatcats did it.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:49 PM (A/QNE)
The unions ultimately hosed themselves. By making themselves the implacable enemy of Republicans, when NAFTA was proposed they had no friend in that party that could tell the nation that it was a long-term bad idea. All Republicans cared about was crushing the overly political unions, while ignoring the areas where the unions actually had a point.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025 01:56 PM (0CU3H)
194
The people who rag on "free trade" are complaining about those things our politicians and elites decided to do about unions and the cost of labor: Export our jobs, and import that cheap goods that come back (with themselves getting rich).
That's not "free trade." That's a controlled economy, no more or less so than communism. Only this time, American fatcats did it.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:49 PM (A/QNE)
But that's exactly the point. What's sold and propagandized as "free trade" is nothing of the sort. But the corporatists LOVE it.
Posted by: Calling it a leg doesn't make a tail a leg at November 30, 2025 01:56 PM (TbWk/)
195
Pope Leo: Palestinian state 'only' solution to Israeli conflict
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Fine with me so long as it's located in Vatican City.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 30, 2025 01:48 PM (L/fGl)
Early First World problem:
I like to check the college football scores, not because I give shoo tits about the games, but I do like the drama of the contest, see who will be crowned Miss America and all that.
When they post the scores, they say "Palestinian State v. East Tennessee Girls Reformatory."
Then they'll show the score: Horndogs 30, Asswipes 13.
And since I have no clue which one is the Aggies and which one is the Longhorns, I have no idea who actually won the game.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:56 PM (y0erj)
196
I keep hearing how backwards Mississippi is (it's not) - we can't make anything there?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025 01:41 PM (0CU3H)
People like to say that Mississippi is backwards - but they're generally quite surprised to learn that Mississippi has a higher GDP per capita than the UK does.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 01:47 PM (uWKK
Mississippi is in the middle of the ugliest college football divorce I’ve ever seen seen today… Lane Kiffin is apparently a low life who wants to take a new “better” job with LSU but still coach Ole Miss in their playoff run (that’s gross… like announcing to the wife you want a divorce but are gonna stay at the house through the Christmas holiday because you like the decorations)…. He’s threatening to poach staff from Ole Miss unless they let him coach but fortunately it seems the administration has some self respect and says pound sand. I guess sometimes people actually earn the reputation they have….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 30, 2025 01:57 PM (xT8gx)
197
But that's exactly the point. What's sold and propagandized as "free trade" is nothing of the sort. But the corporatists LOVE it.
Posted by: Calling it a leg doesn't make a tail a leg at November 30, 2025 01:56 PM (TbWk/)
Yeah, but around here some of the posters and commenters rag on libertarians, as if it's libertarians who are the corporatists.
When indeed, it's a lot of the politicians with R's behind their names who are responsible for the mess, and going around calling themselves free traders.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:58 PM (1OIAD)
198
And since I have no clue which one is the Aggies and which one is the Longhorns, I have no idea who actually won the game.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 01:56 PM (y0erj)
hat tip from Texas - everyone knows that Aggies are Asswipes.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 01:59 PM (uWKK8)
199 I keep hearing how backwards Mississippi is (it's not) - we can't make anything there?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025 01:41 PM (0CU3H)
People like to say that Mississippi is backwards - but they're generally quite surprised to learn that Mississippi has a higher GDP per capita than the UK does.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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I hope Mississippi starts rising in other metrics as its education reforms produce results.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 30, 2025 01:59 PM (n7rxJ)
200
$2.50? I topped off for $2.27.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:55 PM (4786I)
$1.67 with gas points at Brookshires yesterday.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 01:59 PM (i+bC1)
201
The unions ultimately hosed themselves. By making themselves the implacable enemy of Republicans, when NAFTA was proposed they had no friend in that party that could tell the nation that it was a long-term bad idea. All Republicans cared about was crushing the overly political unions, while ignoring the areas where the unions actually had a point.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025 01:56 PM (0CU3H)
No question. The unions are/were as corrupt as everyone else, and if there was a solution to be had it would have been to somehow crush the unions without crushing the American labor force.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 02:00 PM (EQnjS)
202
I don't think she has a chance in a statewide race - because Hispanic voters, especially hispanic men, hate the trash talking ghetto girl type even more than the anglos do. They've got way too much experience with them in their day to day lives.
The Dem's 30 year mistake in Texas has been to think that Hispanics and Black voters can make common ground, but they hate each other more than either of them hate anglos.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 01:51 PM (uWKK
Um, I have no idea what an "anglo" is. I am one-half "anglo" and the rest of my DNA is strewn from the Rhein to Anadyr. : )
Yeah, I cannot see Crocked's ghetto girl act taking off in TX. Never say never, as we HAVE to hold the election, just to make sure. But her act will go nowhere and I think she is running for Senate because she is ejecting from her district if redistricting goes through and eliminates her safe seat. Ejecting and going for broke, as it were.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 02:00 PM (4786I)
203 A lot of the "Robots are here, nobody needs to learn or work and money won't exist soon" talk lately from unexpected sources.
Utopian places always have some old fraud behind the curtain.
Posted by: Auspex at November 30, 2025 02:00 PM (Y8DZL)
204
hat tip from Texas - everyone knows that Aggies are Asswipes.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 01:59 PM (uWKK
I'm just gonna mark that one as true, without any further investigation.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 02:01 PM (A/QNE)
205People like to say that Mississippi is backwards - but they're generally quite surprised to learn that Mississippi has a higher GDP per capita than the UK does.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 01:47 PM (uWKK
If you take away the oil and the banking, what is it then?
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 02:02 PM (rbvCR)
206The people who rag on "free trade" are complaining about those things our politicians and elites decided to do about unions and the cost of labor: Export our jobs, and import that cheap goods that come back (with themselves getting rich).
Unions shot themselves in the foot by joining themselves at the dick with the DNC. Even now when most union membership is pro-Trump the leadership can't stop until Adam Schiff gets a reach-around.
The rest of it is just evading US law. Some of that law's good, a lot of it's retarded. (Basing nuclear energy policy on retarded activists' opinions was, in particular, really really dumb).
Posted by: Ian S. at November 30, 2025 02:02 PM (QZThv)
207 Gas $4.15/gal on California's Central Coast (Monterey, Pebble Beach, Salinas territory)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 30, 2025 02:02 PM (n7rxJ)
208
Per Marcus T's solid comment on A'stan above, those seeking more info on the long ultimately (mostly) fruitless effort should read "The Hardest Place", about the Pech Valley. Can't summarize here. But it traces our efforts in one key area over the years. Won't validate any/many of the cartoonish opinions that predominate on the general topic, but very interesting.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 30, 2025 02:03 PM (U/Byj)
209
The unions ultimately hosed themselves. By making themselves the implacable enemy of Republicans, when NAFTA was proposed they had no friend in that party that could tell the nation that it was a long-term bad idea. All Republicans cared about was crushing the overly political unions, while ignoring the areas where the unions actually had a point.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025 01:56 PM (0CU3H)
The ONLY points unions have are stopping competition, erecting barriers and eventually pricing the labor they "represent" out of the job market. They have had their day. And, free trade or no free trade, their time came and went.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 02:03 PM (4786I)
210Trump ought to interrupt WH pressers occasionally, starting tomorrow, with news for the fucking affordability communists, including those with press passes in the room, that gas is about $2.50 most everywhere, and eggs are $1.95.
Posted by: M. Gaga at November 30, 2025 01:53 PM (KiBMU)
It is 3.60 here in Oregon. Thanks Tina!
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 02:04 PM (rbvCR)
211Pope Leo: Palestinian state 'only' solution to Israeli conflict
Leo is another demonic Pope.
Posted by: Maj. Healey NOT An Institutional Catholic at November 30, 2025 02:05 PM (abIsI)
212
If you take away the oil and the banking, what is it then?
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 02:02 PM (rbvCR)
If you ONLY take away the banking, it's a Diddy party.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 30, 2025 02:05 PM (Ws+88)
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203
A lot of the "Robots are here, nobody needs to learn or work and money won't exist soon" talk lately from unexpected sources.
Utopian places always have some old fraud behind the curtain.
Posted by: Auspex at November 30, 2025 02:00 PM (Y8DZL)
When I hear this self-assured talk, I remind myself that, 40 years ago, I read lengthy articles in the paper talking about how teachers would be obsolete in 2000.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 02:06 PM (4786I)
214Pope Leo: Palestinian state 'only' solution to Israeli conflict
Imagine going back a few hundred years and telling the then Pope that his follower will be calling for a return of the Holy Land to the Muslim invaders.
If the RCC wasn't so compromised that was lead to his removal from office.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 02:07 PM (sKqQm)
215It is 3.60 here in Oregon. Thanks Tina!
Posted by: Kindltot
3.55 for regular here in WA - on the rez.
4.25 diesel also on the rez. Thanks democrats.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 30, 2025 02:07 PM (abIsI)
216We should be doing things that make it enticing to operate here, if you are a citizen of this country or are from elsewhere. But we do not.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 01:54 PM (4786I)
The older generations are insisting on getting their bennies subsidized, and no one else is willing to be left out in the cold.
However, even if we dropped all tariffs and regulations, we will still get raped because countries we trade with both subsidize their own exports, and restrict and tax imports to support their own industries. It isn't fair, but it is how it currently is arranged.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 02:07 PM (rbvCR)
217When I hear this self-assured talk, I remind myself that, 40 years ago, I read lengthy articles in the paper talking about how teachers would be obsolete in 2000.
They kind of are even though we still pay them
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 02:08 PM (sKqQm)
218
Gas $4.15/gal on California's Central Coast (Monterey, Pebble Beach, Salinas territory)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
$1.87 Moore, Oklahoma. $1.99 OKC.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 30, 2025 02:10 PM (3k5hk)
219
(Basing nuclear energy policy on retarded activists' opinions was, in particular, really really dumb).
Posted by: Ian S. at November 30, 2025 02:02 PM (QZThv)
This is the kind of thing that runs off business. What would happen if the feds ditched strangling regulation, energy was cheap and plentiful, and the schools cranked some competent human capital?
The country, I submit, would have an extremely diverse economy (with yes, lots of The Only Jobs That Matter - manufacturing jobs - mixed in) with the portions of the country in dire economic straits being those like CA, IL and NY that were yesterday's news and have state and local governments that are utterly hostile to business and runs people off to other parts of the country that welcome them.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 02:11 PM (4786I)
220 They kind of are even though we still pay them
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 02:08 PM (sKqQm)
The ones that suck are. The good ones are invaluable and still badly needed.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 02:12 PM (4786I)
221 Unions are gangster-run and have been for a century.
Walter Reuther rolled like a millionaire in his heyday; private planes and "conference centers" that were just playpens.
Posted by: Auspex at November 30, 2025 02:13 PM (Y8DZL)
222
The older generations are insisting on getting their bennies subsidized, and no one else is willing to be left out in the cold.
However, even if we dropped all tariffs and regulations, we will still get raped because countries we trade with both subsidize their own exports, and restrict and tax imports to support their own industries. It isn't fair, but it is how it currently is arranged.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 02:07 PM (rbvCR)
To which I'd say retaliatory tariffs and restrictions on trade here until they change their ways is perfectly fine in my book.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 02:14 PM (4786I)
223
>>>>Trump ought to interrupt WH pressers occasionally, starting tomorrow, with news for the fucking affordability communists, including those with press passes in the room, that gas is about $2.50 most everywhere, and eggs are $1.95.
Posted by: M. Gaga at November 30, 2025 01:53 PM (KiBMU)
******
Diesel prices, here in Western NC, haven't changed much and still remain over $3.00 to $3.50. Don't understand it.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at November 30, 2025 02:15 PM (n8oIX)
224
I see a guy in Britain was arrest because he posted a picture to social media of him firing a gun while on vacation in the US.
They argued he posted the picture to "intimidate".
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 02:15 PM (sKqQm)
225
Depending on the city where one lives, these are already operationally-acceptable 'standards' … sucks 2 B us …
Posted by: Dr_No at November 30, 2025 02:21 PM (ayRl+)
226
@ 221
Unions are gangster-run and have been for a century.
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Heh. You shoulda seen the Musicians' Union in N'Awlins, brah …
Posted by: Dr_No at November 30, 2025 02:23 PM (ayRl+)
227 And since I have no clue which one is the Aggies and which one is the Longhorns, I have no idea who actually won the game.
Texas A&M is the Aggies (the A originally stood for agricultural, the M for mechanical - as in engineering - located in semi-rural College Station TX) while the Longhorns are the University of Texas (in Austin). If you don’t know the nicknames, why would you care about the score?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 30, 2025 02:39 PM (ZVgZ4)
228 The older generations are insisting on getting their bennies subsidized, and no one else is willing to be left out in the cold.
I am paying tariffs on the medicines I import from Canada, but it’s still cheaper than buying in the US.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 30, 2025 02:42 PM (ZVgZ4)
229
I am paying tariffs on the medicines I import from Canada, but it’s still cheaper than buying in the US.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 30, 2025 02:42 PM (ZVgZ4)
Best of all you are helping subsidize socialism.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 30, 2025 02:47 PM (4786I)
Posted by: Prickly Pete Salmonella at November 30, 2025 06:11 PM (dFG8E)
Sunday Morning Book Thread - 11-30-2025 ["Perfessor" Squirrel]
Welcome to the prestigious, internationally acclaimed, stately, and illustrious Sunday Morning Book Thread! The place where all readers are welcome, regardless of whatever guilty pleasure we feel like reading (don't knock it 'til you've tried it!). Here is where we can discuss, argue, bicker, quibble, consider, debate, confabulate, converse, and jaw about our latest fancy in reading material. As always, pants are required, unless you are wearing these pants...
So relax, find yourself a warm kitty (or warm puppy--I won't judge) to curl up in your lap, finish off that pumpkin pie, and dive into a new book. What are YOU reading this fine morning?
PIC VIDEO NOTE
I admire the dedication of the curators at Montpelier for their attempt to reconstruct the full library of James Madison. By the time of hid death in 1836 he had an extensive collection of over 4000 books. However, many of them have been lost to the mists of time.
STICK THE LANDING!
Patrick provides some useful advice to writers on how to end their books. He breaks his advice into the following patterns he's seen when analyzing book endings:
Rushed resolution - Does the book wrap up its main conflict too soon? Patrick says that the resolution should take up approximately as much space as the setup in the beginning. This is more a guideline than an absolute, though, as I've read many satisfying stories that were resolved in a fairly short amount of time, but were a slow burn at the beginning. The key, as always, is whether or not the reader will walk away satisfied by the ending. Give the reader some breathing space at the end, especially if the book is emotionally intense in the middle section.
Unearned happy ending - Happy endings should be earned by the characters. They are a reward for the growth and development of the characters as they navigate the conflict in the story. Characters who experience a happy ending, but haven't earned it, will feel fake and will be unsympathetic to the reader. We want to root for the protagonist in the story, even as they experience horrible tragedy, so that we feel like they will be all right in the end. Make their eventual happy ending MEAN something to them--and it will mean just as much to us.
Betrayal ending - Brandon Sanderson has three rules for writing: Promise, Progress, and Payoff. Whatever you set up during the Promise phase must come to fulfillment in the Payoff phase. Don't bait-and-swith the reader without warning. It's OK to throw in a genre shift if you want to do that, but give the reader enough clues so that they recognize that the story is changing in a new direction. Done well, readers will appreciate the twists and turns because you've promised them a good story from the beginning, even if the ending is unexpected.
Earned tragedy - Tragic stories should feel inevitable. The characters destined for tragedy should feel like this is the only way their life could go based on the choices they make throughout the story. In Zelazny's Jack of Shadows, for instance, Jack's descent into tragedy is quite clear halfway through the story when he gets his revenge, but is still unsatisfied. From there, he quickly descends into lust for power, which becomes his undoing. It's telegraphed quite in advance in the story, but we keep reading because we want to see how it plays out.
Emotional landing - Stories should resonate with readers at a deep emotional level. The best stories, as Patrick points out, end with us closing the book, and then just sitting there as we process the journey we've just been through. Michael Ende's The Neverending Story is a powerful example of this. I *always* feel deep emotion when I read that book. I've been that way since the first time I read it when I was about nine years old.
Epilogue debate - Some stories can benefit from an epilogue, while others should probably avoid them. If the story ends with "happily ever after" then we usually don't need an epilogue to tell us how things turn out in the end. If the characters (or the world) go through traumatic experiences, then an epilogue can show us the long-term consequences of the events in the book. In Lord of the Rings, we have a fairly lengthy epilogue section because Frodo is suffering from PTSD from his journeys to Mordor. The only cure is to go over the seas with the Elves, which is eventually what happens. In the Appendices, we find out more about what happens to Sam, Merry, and Pippin, but we don't need a full epilogue to go into details of their lives.
Can you think of any other patterns or rules for endings?
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It was also his last day...
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NOVELIZATIONS OF THE FILM
Anyone a fan of reading novelizations of movies? I have several in my library. For some reason I have all three novelizations of the original Star Wars trilogy as well as five out of six of the original Star Trek movies (I had Star Trek V but ended up throwing it out because it was in such poor condition). I think the oldest novelization I have is 2001: A Space Odyssey by Arthur C. Clarke.
I sort of like novelizations because they often expand on the stories, providing details and context that are missing from the movies. Of course, because they novels are usually based on earlier drafts of the screenplay, the final cut of the movie may be vastly different than the novel in key ways because scenes may be cut or rewritten based on Executive Meddling or because audience test screening didn't go well.
I read Alien a week or so ago and then proceeded to watch the movie immediately afterwards. There are definitely some key differences. In the book, there's a scene where the alien's tail is caught in an airlock door trapping it before it can be expelled out into space. This is a key scene in the book that really hammers home the duplicitous actions of Ash the android. We also see just how corrupt and penny-pinching the Company is in the book, as air is strictly regulated with just barely enough to keep the crew alive as long as they spend nearly all their time in hibernation. In the movie, all of the characters start chain-smoking cigarettes as soon as they wake up from hibernation. I always find smoking scenes in space somewhat ridiculous because the particulates in smoke would play merry havoc with the air scrubbers aboard a space ship or space station.
In the novelization for Star Wars (also written by Alan Dean Foster), we see a few extra scenes, at least one of which made it into the Special Edition of the movie. Han Solo meets up with Jabba the Hutt, but at that point Lucas really hadn't defined the "Hutts" as we know and love them today (giant space slugs), so that scene is a bit incongruous compared to what we see a few years later in Return of the Jedi. In the book, Luke is assigned to "Blue Squadron" as an X-wing pilot, but in the movie his callsign is "Red Five."
In the Star Trek novelizations, particularly with Wrath of Kahn, Search for Spock, and The Voyage Home, we see more details about the stories that connect them more concretely to each other. The young engineer that Scotty cradles in his arms in Wrath of Kahn is his nephew, which is why Scotty is so devastated when the young man is killed in an attack. Lieutenant Saavik and David Marcus become lovers in The Search for Spock, giving David's death a little more emotional impact. And in The Voyage Home we see a few of the events from the perspective of the whales and the probe. The probe wasn't evil. It was a caretaker who saw that its charges were no longer alive, so decided to wipe out the planet and start over.
What about you? Any good novelizations of movies you've read? Any movies you think would make a good novelization?
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WHAT I'VE BEEN READING THIS PAST WEEK:
The Black Hole by Alan Dean Foster
Written by Alan Dean Foster, this is the novelization of the movie produced by Walt Disney pictures once upon a time (1979). A research vessel searching the galaxy for intelligent life stumbles across something even stranger--the long-lost spaceship Cygnus, an earlier exploration ship thought to have been lost twenty years ago with all hands on board. Initially dormant, Cygnus wakes up to welcome the crew of the Palomino. Then things get strange as the Palomino crew explore the Cygnus and begin to unravel the mysteries hidden by its enigmatic commander, the megalomaniacal Dr. Hans Reinhardt.
Like a lot of novelizations, this story expands on a fair amount of lore and backstory, providing additional context for events within the movie. For instance, the psychic link between Dr. Kate McCrae and the robot V.I.N.CENT. is explained as a cybernetic implant in Dr. McCrae's brain that gives her a direct link to the robot. It's still a rare and unusual ability, though, as most implants tend to fail. We also see a more "scientific" explanation for what Dr. Reinhardt is attempting to do with the advanced gravitic technology he's discovered/invented. The ending of the book is considerably different than the ending in the movie, which ends on a very dark note indeed.
Doorways in the Sand by Roger Zelazny
Unlike the previous Zelazny book I read--Jack of Shadows--this one has a far lighter, fluffier tone. Fred Cassidy is a perpetual college student who lives quite comfortably on a stipend from his uncle under the stipulation that the money will only continue to flow so long as Fred never graduates college. He's been a student for thirteen years and enjoys his life, although his advisors keep trying to graduate him. Then he's caught up in a farcical quest by aliens, Men in Black, and other factions who believe Fred possesses the mysterious "starstone," a token of galactic importance that was given to Earth to symbolize Earth's eventual acceptance into a galactic federation.
Definitely ends on a much happier note than Jack of Shadows, with a fair amount of tongue-in-cheek humor from our narrator, Fred. All he wants is his life back, but events keep conspiring against him.
Deep Storm by Lincoln Child
Lincoln Child is one half of the duo who writes the Agent Pendergast series, along with Douglas Preston. But he also has several stand-alone novels written solo, though I'm pretty sure they take place within the same universe as the Pendergast novels.
Former Navy medical doctor Peter Crane is summoned to an oil rig in the North Atlantic. The rig has been transformed into a scientific deep-sea research facility and the inhabitants are starting to exhibit bizarre behavior and maladies that don't fit any known pattern of epidemiology. Deep, deep beneath the platform is a facility where the real work is conducted--drilling even deeper into the Earth's crust, where it's reported "Atlantis" has finally been found. The truth is far, far stranger and deadlier, of course. Are aliens involved? Maybe...
Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds
In some ways, this has a lot of the same plot points as Child's Deep Storm above, even though it takes place 500 years in the future. Humanity has spread to the stars, with incredibly advanced technology, but we are still limited to slower-than-light travel. This makes for a slightly disconnected story as events take place years or even decades apart due to the fact that it takes A LONG TIME to get from point A to point B in space. An ancient civilization went extinct over 900,000 years ago and archaeologist Dan Sylveste will stop at nothing to understand why it was wiped out just as it was on the cusp of achieving spaceflight. He hooks up with a renegade crew of "Ultras" (humans who crew the "lighthugger" ships that travel at 99% the speed of light), who all have their own agenda about Dan's fate. One person was hired specifically to kill him. Others want him to use his link to his dead father to revive their almost-dead Captain. I thought it was hilarious that the captain is named "Brannigan," like the captain from Futurama, but other than the name, there's no resemblance.
This story provides an interesting explanation for the Fermi Paradox, which asks a fundamental question: If it's plausible for the galaxy to be teeming with intelligent alien life, where is it?
The Wind in the Willows by Kenneth Grahame
Well, I finally read The Wind in the Willows. For the most part it's enjoyable. Grahame has a real gift for writing excellent lyrical prose. However, his world-building needs a bit of work. Although the main characters are all relatively small animals--a Mole, a Water Rat, a Toad, and a Badger--they interact with the "human" world as equals. So I'm not sure how the scale works here. At one point, Toad rubs his hand through his hair, which I found odd, since I don't ever think of toads having hair (or paws). So it's best to simply enjoy the story for what it is and try not to analyze the world-building too much. They also eat rabbit and bacon. Where do they get it? Do they find it problematic to eat other intelligent animals? (They have encounters with talking rabbits at least once.)
If at Faust You Don't Succeed by Roger Zelazny and Robert Sheckley
I needed some lighter fare after reading Revelation Space, so I turned to If at Faust You Don't Succeed by Roger Zelazny and Robert Sheckley. Like their previous story, Bring Me the Head of Prince Charming, thi is a farcical tale, this time about our good buddy Dr. Johann Faust. The powers of Light and Darkness are once again involved in a contest for the Millennium prize. Mephistopheles sets out to corrupt Dr. Faust, but unfortunately makes a pact with the thug Mack the Club, who just happened to be robbing Faust's home while Faust was knocked unconscious in an alleyway. Old Meph' didn't bother to check credentials. Dr. Faust finds out about the bargain Mack makes with Meph and decides that HE should have been the one to make the bargain. Now Faust is chasing Mack and Meph all over creation to set things "right." It's just a fun romp through the cosmos. Not meant to be taken seriously at all.
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Good morning, fellow book freaks! Salutations, Squirrel!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 30, 2025 09:01 AM (kpS4V)
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Blucher Scourge of Napoleon
Campaign and Commanders series book #41 Michael V. Leggierre
Up to 1811, Didn't ever know some Prussians thought France was going to attack Prussia again ( already under France's control).when I already know France was about to attack Russia in 1812.
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 09:01 AM (Ia/+0)
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Those pants yeah - holiday treats DO go straight to my thighs
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 30, 2025 09:01 AM (eZ5tL)
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I remember that novelization of 2001, which gave a lot of background to dr floyd and his world
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 30, 2025 09:03 AM (bXbFr)
This week, lessee, finished Julian Symons's The Belting Inheritance from 1982, though the story is set in England in 1954, with wartime backstories. A good mystery all around. Currently I'm in his "novel of suspense," Something Like a Love Affair, set in the England of 1991. There's going to be a crime element; we know this from a prologue (labeled "Afterward") in which a body is found in a park, and also because the protagonist has now concluded that she has to kill her husband.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 09:06 AM (wzUl9)
I have Alan Dean Foster's novelizations of all ST:TOS and the original animated TV series
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 30, 2025 09:07 AM (9ipOP)
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I don’t like book endings that make me say something like ‘damn, I wanted that guy to die.’.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 09:07 AM (i+bC1)
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I'm back into "Thunderball," which I read in high school but of which I remember little. I checked it out after I rewatched the movie, which I still bores me. Too much time spent on underwater combat.
One problem with the book is that it is so contemporary that it now pushes me out of the story. For example, a mention that Bond speculated that he strained his back by jumping off a train during the Hungarian uprising. It makes his printed adventures seem overblown -- as if nuclear extortion could ever be otherwise.
However, I do think that SPECTRE exists, just not under that name and organizational structure.
Posted by: Weak Geek at November 30, 2025 09:07 AM (p/isN)
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"Emotional landing - Stories should resonate with readers at a deep emotional level. The best stories, as Patrick points out, end with us closing the book, and then just sitting there as we process the journey we've just been through."
This is about us, isn't it?
Posted by: Every Hallmark movie ever made at November 30, 2025 09:07 AM (XQo4F)
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Splinter in the mind eye, would have made as an interesting film
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 30, 2025 09:08 AM (bXbFr)
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Also this week I finished Lee Child's Jack Reacher novel from 2018, Past Tense, which delves into JR's family history -- specifically that of his father. It's a good one, partly because JR meets an antagonist who actually gives him a hard time in a fight for once.
I haven't yet gotten to the literary novel I mentioned last week, Tell the Wolves I'm Home.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 09:08 AM (wzUl9)
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Which is better, a filmization of a novel, or a novelization of a film?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 30, 2025 09:09 AM (uQesX)
Posted by: fd at November 30, 2025 09:11 AM (vFG9F)
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Only a few chapters into Chernow's biography of Ulysses S. Grant but will boldly predict it'll be one of my favorites. Great subject, great writer.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 30, 2025 09:11 AM (kpS4V)
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Endings . . . in the classical mystery, of course, you not only should find out who the murderer is, but why he did it, and (in a locked room/impossible crime) how he did it. Ellery Queen, Agatha Christie, and John Dickson Carr were masters at that. EQ in particular was fond of the "false solution, then the true," which revelation sometimes changed the reader's perspective on certain characters.
Carr's The Burning Court has a final passage, kind of an epilogue, that is unique in the detective genre, and is remarkably chilling as well. You close that book with a sense of wonder and horror.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 09:12 AM (wzUl9)
Posted by: fd at November 30, 2025 09:12 AM (vFG9F)
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Speaking of The Black Hole, did anyone else read that they found the wreckage of Malaysian Air Flight 370 in the Indian Ocean? Guess it didn't make it into a black hole after all.
Don Lemon hardest not-hit in his hole.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 30, 2025 09:12 AM (uQesX)
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OrangeEnt it's a case by case basis.
Know of book/ movies have read and seen both and it's usually the book but not always
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 09:12 AM (Ia/+0)
34However, I do think that SPECTRE exists, just not under that name and organizational structure.
Posted by: Weak Geek at November 30, 2025
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Those jumped-up Johnny-come-latelys! Hmph!
Posted by: Thrush Supreme Council at November 30, 2025 09:13 AM (wzUl9)
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I liked the book "Risen" "based on a major motion picture."
Posted by: no one at November 30, 2025 09:13 AM (GLn15)
36 Do they find it problematic to eat other intelligent animals?
Hmmph?
*swallows mouthful of delicious grilled whale meat*
*takes drink of wine*
...uh......No.
*resumes meal*
Posted by: naturalfake at November 30, 2025 09:14 AM (iJfKG)
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There are something from book like jason matthews red sparrow that cannot translate interior dialogues descriptions of recipss
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 30, 2025 09:15 AM (bXbFr)
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When Isambard Brunel built the Great Eastern, she was by far the largest ship afloat, and yet a financial disaster. But she was ideally suited for a task that Cyrus Field had in mind; laying a transatlantic cable from Europe to North America. In A Thread Across the Ocean, John Steele Gordon recounts the history of the idea, the failed attempts, and the final, successful laying of a telegraphic cable across the Atlantic Ocean.
In the earliest days of America, news could take four months to travel across the ocean. When Samuel Morse invented his code, messages could be sent at the speed of light across wires on land, but what of the great oceans? The answer was to lay submerged cable, if possible. The problem was that so much cable was incredibly heavy, and miles of it hanging from a ship stressed both.
Attempts were made to lay cable using multiple ships and splicing cables together, but always the weather, the cable, or the salt water caused failure. The massive Great Eastern, holding the entire cable, finally found her calling. In July 1866, she successfully completed connecting Europe to the new world, and soon the entire planet would be similarly connected.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 30, 2025 09:15 AM (0U5gm)
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However, I do think that SPECTRE exists, just not under that name and organizational structure.
Posted by: Weak Geek at November 30, 2025 09:07 AM (p/isN)
WG, they now go by the name of WEF.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 30, 2025 09:15 AM (uQesX)
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Earned tragedy - Tragic stories should feel inevitable.
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Jodi Picoult is the worst offender in this category. Characters will be at their earned happy ending then BAM they get hit by a truck.
So emotionally manipulative.
Deshpicable /daffyduckvoice
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 30, 2025 09:15 AM (DoBxX)
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"It was aliens!" Should be added to the endings list.
My absolutely most hated ending used by S. King.
Started and finished "Saint Odd" this week. This was the final "Odd Thomas" book in the Dean Koonz series. I think Mr Koonz must have been tired of writing about Oddie when he penned it. A good portion of the book was simply excerpts from earlier books and then the ending was anticlimactic. I thought I must have missed a chapter because by this time I was just skimming the pages, but no, it was finished. Like a S. King book.
Ugh
Posted by: p0indexterous at November 30, 2025 09:16 AM (wf0SQ)
I joined the book club at work, but I may regret it. This month's choice was The Intruder, by Frieda McFadden. It appears that she's one of those current "it girl" authors that the AWFL publishing industry is gaga over right now.
Two major problems with this book.
1: I really, really despise books written in the present tense. I suppose the author is trying to make you feel like you're in the moment, but I hate it.
2: The main character, at one point, allows herself to be overpowered by a malnourished middle-schooler, even though she is skilled at self-defense. It's preposterous.
That said, I love a good revenge story, and this is a good revenge story, however contrived. Some really horrible people got what they gave. Then again, maybe they got a bit more than they deserved. Whatever. It's a disturbing sort of feel-good story.
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Speaking of James Bond, however: I finished Anthony Horowitz's "continuation" novel, Trigger Mortis, and enjoyed it immensely. He has Fleming's style down pat, and there is plenty of action -- a car race, shootouts, a live burial, and a climactic scene aboard a racing train. It's set in 1957, right after the events of Goldfinger, with a featured appearance by Miss Pussy Galore. Never fear, being "with" Bond, as we saw at the end of GF, has not tamed her or her DC preferences in the least.
Highly recommended for Bond fans. I need to buy a copy for my shelf.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 09:17 AM (wzUl9)
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Oh duh,missed the pull down
Posted by: fd at November 30, 2025 09:12 AM (vFG9F)
Please pull your pants down offscreen. There are ladies present!!
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 30, 2025 09:17 AM (uQesX)
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I wonder what James Madison read? I suppose I'd know if I watched the video, but I can't be bothered to watch videos. Heh.
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I thought it was good what did you think of the villains motivation
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 30, 2025 09:18 AM (bXbFr)
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I've been enjoying my Annotated Lovecraft, but damn he never misses an opportunity to slam the lesser races (Italians merit several mentions). I guess seeing Boston overrun by Guineas will do that to a man.
Funny how the casually tossed off ethnic slurs dropped by this crusty old racist crank just make me giggle. Guess I'm made of sterner stuff than the delicate hothouse flowers of WorldCon.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 30, 2025 09:19 AM (kpS4V)
Not much reading the last several days (wonder why that is...), but received at long last the new translation of one of Simenon's darkest, The Cat. Will start that one this evening or tomorrow. One nice thing about Penguin's edition of this one is the note on the back cover that two others, Letter to My Judge and The Green Shutters are in preparation. Letter to My Judge was available some years back from NYRB Classics, but the other hasn't been in print in English in something like 50 or 60 years. Lookin' forward to that one.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 30, 2025 09:19 AM (q3u5l)
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His last iteration, takes him into the soviet union after live and let die
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 30, 2025 09:20 AM (bXbFr)
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The nice thing about reading history is you often know how it ends, it's the path that gets there is the question
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 09:20 AM (Ia/+0)
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did anyone else read that they found the wreckage of Malaysian Air Flight 370 in the Indian Ocean?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 30, 2025 09:12 AM (uQesX)
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I am reading John Wright's Andromeda series, which the author is releasing book by book. There are 12 books in total and the sixth is the most current to be released. It's called "Spaceman in the Iron Mask".
I cannot recommend it highly enough. So far, the series only gets better with each book.
Posted by: PG at November 30, 2025 09:21 AM (hC4Rp)
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Reading report - I listened to the novella Livesuit by James A Corey, which is part of their new series The Captive's War.
I thought the novella was just an nice extra between books but WOW.
It really hit me.
Can be read as a standalone, clear homage to Forever War and Armor, but really deep emotional punch. Recommended.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 30, 2025 09:21 AM (DoBxX)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 30, 2025 09:22 AM (DoBxX)
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Speaking of The Black Hole, did anyone else read that they found the wreckage of Malaysian Air Flight 370 in the Indian Ocean? Guess it didn't make it into a black hole after all.
Don Lemon hardest not-hit in his hole.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 30, 2025 09:12 AM (uQesX)
So what did they find, and where was it? (I don’t watch the ‘news’.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 09:22 AM (i+bC1)
56Thunderball, both book and movie, has always bored me. Not only because of all the underwater combat scenes, but also because Bond is at his best when he's working alone or with the lady of the moment. See Live and Let Die (after Leiter is taken out), From Russia With Love, and Doctor No, especially. Having him backed up by half the U.S. Navy is nowhere near as exciting.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 09:22 AM (wzUl9)
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I saw a cartoon with T-Rex in bed holding a book in his tiny arms, overhung by his huge head blocking the view, with the caption "Rex regrets not getting the audiobook".
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 30, 2025 09:23 AM (kpS4V)
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Also I have a much awaited sequel in hand and I can't remember enough of previous book to make sense of what is happening
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 30, 2025 09:24 AM (DoBxX)
The best was Fallen Angles by Jerry Pournelle, Larry Niven, and Michael Flynn. He nails the Green mentality, the consequences thereof, and has an interesting dystopia with added rapid glaciation and the destruction of America. There is droll humor throughout, and has science-fiction fans as the plucky main support for the heroes.
What's not to like?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 30, 2025 09:25 AM (u82oZ)
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Dash, I too dislike books written in present tense. There are exceptions, like Jay McInerney's Bright Lights, Big City (which is also told in *second* person!). But generally it makes me think the primary thought in the writer's mind was "My MFA thesis committee is really going to like this!"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 09:25 AM (wzUl9)
https://tinyurl.com/3bpdp489
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 30, 2025 09:21 AM (mOv6P)
I can't find anything now either, but I thought it was a link on Citizen Free Press. It was about a week or so ago.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 30, 2025 09:25 AM (uQesX)
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This one's so good I can't put it down. "The Doorman," by Chris Pavone. New York city, Central Park West, maybe a block from the Dakota, this building much the same. Chicky Diaz is the doorman. That's his day job. Half-billion-dollar art inside the upper floors, with a George Floyd event to unsettle things, rattling the thugs, the billionaires, and their wives with their thirty-thousand-dollar bags.
Posted by: M. Gaga at November 30, 2025 09:28 AM (KiBMU)
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Not much reading this week, except for a few pages in my trigonometry textbook. I'm hoping to finish up Rules of the Game in the near future, then I'll have to decide which book gets pulled from the TBR pile.
Posted by: PabloD at November 30, 2025 09:28 AM (GALGA)
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Reading adjacent, maybe. The National Archives 250th exhibit includes Washington's personal annotated copy of the Constitution. That's not enough to get my ass into DC, something I've avoided for fifteen years. But I'm going to look for a facsimile of the annotations. Everything was new and untried and his remarks should be highly revealing about the man and the times.
The reading adjacent part is I hope this 250th exhibit and other celebrations sparks more reading about George Washington. Especially the years after the Revolution. I find Washington the first President and as a farmer to be fascinating.
Posted by: JTB at November 30, 2025 09:29 AM (yTvNw)
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I'm also listening to Ballistic, a Gray Man book. It is ok but the language is a bit much for me. It will probably be my last book in the series.
I'll listen to The Running Grave by Robert Galbraith, aka J. K. Rawlings, next. Talk about bang for your buck. The audible book is about 34 hours.
I hate the audio books that have sound effects and multiple narrators like a play. Just give me a good narrator with a pleasant voice that fits the book being read!
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In Trigger Mortis, too, Horowitz has his details right. For instance there is this tiny bit. In this novel, set in 1957, Bond is still driving the 1953 Bentley Mark VI he bought at the end of Moonraker. At the end of the MR book, we're told that the car has dark blue leather upholstery. And Horowitz actually mentions the blue color in one TM scene.
AH says in his afterword that he's loved the Bond books all his life. It shows.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 09:29 AM (wzUl9)
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So what did they find, and where was it? (I don’t watch the ‘news’.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 09:22 AM (i+bC1)
Can't find the source, maybe someone found more wreckage and thinks they know where the plane is.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 30, 2025 09:30 AM (uQesX)
"The Utterly Uninteresting and Unadventurous Tales of Fred, the Vampire Accountant: Fred the Vampire Accountant #1" by Drew Hayes.
Meet Fred, mild-mannered accountant, who was bullied through his school years and now just wants to be left alone to quietly and competently be a CPA. Then somebody turns him into a vampire. Suddenly, he is thrust into a Matt Helm-like world, filled Tolkien-esque
characters. I liked it.
(Mandatory Matt Helm and Tolkien references achieved for the week)
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 30, 2025 09:32 AM (8QVSJ)
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Been picking up a lot of 99 cent Collected works of ...
Like Kipling, HG Wells, George MacDonald, and Edgar Rice Burroughs. I note with the later that the description lies, and my own library is much more complete that Kindle's promised complete works of ERB.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 30, 2025 09:33 AM (u82oZ)
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Almost finished with the two part alternate history of WWII era wars in the Andes by D.G. Valdron. Very well done with believable battles and realistic dealings with the logistical and financial problems of the combatants. Plu an unexpectedly hilarious scene where Quechua/Aymara rebels confront the last ‘president’ of Bolivia’.
Posted by: Who Knew at November 30, 2025 09:34 AM (TdNm+)
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In Trigger Mortis, too, Horowitz has his details right. For instance there is this tiny bit. In this novel, set in 1957, Bond is still driving the 1953 Bentley Mark VI he bought at the end of Moonraker. At the end of the MR book, we're told that the car has dark blue leather upholstery. And Horowitz actually mentions the blue color in one TM scene.
AH says in his afterword that he's loved the Bond books all his life. It shows.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Horowitz also wrote The House of Silk, a Sherlock Holmes novel, and he managed to capture Doyle's style as well.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 30, 2025 09:34 AM (0U5gm)
72However, I do think that SPECTRE exists, just not under that name and organizational structure.
Posted by: Weak Geek at November 30, 2025 09:07 AM
Unpossible!
Posted by: Big Penguin at November 30, 2025 09:35 AM (0sNs1)
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Reminder: now is a good time to pick which "Through the Bible in a Year" plan you'd like to start with the best of intentions on Jan. 01 but quickly fall behind and abandon before Valentine's Day.
Posted by: PabloD at November 30, 2025 09:35 AM (GALGA)
Posted by: Weak Geek at November 30, 2025 09:36 AM (p/isN)
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Just ordered a used copy of the Vacuuming in the Nude book mentioned in the 'guilty pleasures' link. It sounds like a funny romp through Peggy Rowe's (Mile Rowe's mom) writing career. Thanks, Perfessor, for bring it up.
Posted by: JTB at November 30, 2025 09:36 AM (yTvNw)
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18 I don’t like book endings that make me say something like ‘damn, I wanted that guy to die.’.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 09:07 AM (i+bC1)
Posted by: Karen, with septum piercing and hair color not found in nature at November 30, 2025 09:37 AM (0sNs1)
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2001 wasn't exactly a novelization; the book and movie were worked on at the same time. 2001 also got a comic adaptation by Marvel Comics which *kept going*.
[2010 (both versions) is/are a sequel to the movie version.]
Novelizations are interesting in several ways. One, they're a kind of marketing or advertising, in addition to being merchandise. They're also not usually really adaptations of the finished film-- they're typically based on earlier drafts, which explain some of the differences. (Blue Squadron becoming Red in Star Wars was a result of the matting/"green screen" composition process-- red worked better than blue , f'rinstance.)
But others are from the author's creative license.
My favorite thing about novelizations, though, is that they're kind of a relic of the Olden Days before video. Before cable/syndication and VCRs, if you wanted to see a movie that wasn't in theaters anymore, good luck. The novelization (and comic book adaptation, and storybooks, and trading cards, soundtrack albums, etc) let you experience the story at home or school or whatever.
I could go on and on, and if I wasn't so laaaazy, I'd write a monograph and start a blog for it.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 30, 2025 09:39 AM (/JT24)
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{{{All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes}}}
I echo your praise for Chernow's biography of Ulysses S. Grant.
Illuminating and thought-provoking, while being well written, with spotlights on the telling details.
Grant should be in the top 10 of all Presidents. But the Left hates him. He freed the slaves and helped the former slave integrate into American society.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 30, 2025 09:40 AM (u82oZ)
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Think I've commented before that present tense, rather than giving a you-are-there-right-now vibe, always seemed to me to put the reader at a distance and keep him at arm's length or more for the duration of the story. I'd think that second-person present tense would be a PITA to read for more than a few pages. First-person present? Maybe for something not too long, and then it too would be a pain to read. Third-person present, yeah sometimes, but that arm's length quality would tell me not to get attached to any of the characters.
I'd have to double check, but I think Silverberg, Malzberg, and Moorcock have all used present tense on occasion and made it work. Of course when they're cookin' those guys could get away with just about anything.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 30, 2025 09:40 AM (q3u5l)
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In the novelization for Star Wars (also written by Alan Dean Foster),
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Point of order! The novelization was credited to George Lucas and it is terribly written.
82Watership Down avoids all the ending pitfalls the Perfessor lists, and achieves the desired elements at the same time. It's hard to do much better at an ending than that.
I also like endings where the major character(s) briefly reflect on how things will be different now after the events of the story. Or when we *see* without being told how they are different now, as with the ending of The Caine Mutiny.
Is the ending of For Whom the Bell Tolls an "earned tragedy"? It's certainly tragic, but heroic too, like the end of Stephen King's The Dead Zone. Both are inevitable, yes, because of the choices the hero has made. Johnny Smith makes a difference in the world, yet we are pretty sure Robert Jordan will not.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 09:40 AM (wzUl9)
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Its a challenge between exposition and character development fleming was a reporter so he did a lof of research hong kong south africa turkey
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 30, 2025 09:42 AM (bXbFr)
84 Think I've commented before that present tense, rather than giving a you-are-there-right-now vibe, always seemed to me to put the reader at a distance and keep him at arm's length or more for the duration of the story. I'd think that second-person present tense would be a PITA to read for more than a few pages. First-person present? Maybe for something not too long, and then it too would be a pain to read. Third-person present, yeah sometimes, but that arm's length quality would tell me not to get attached to any of the characters.
I'd have to double check, but I think Silverberg, Malzberg, and Moorcock have all used present tense on occasion and made it work. Of course when they're cookin' those guys could get away with just about anything.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 30, 2025
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Jay McInerney's novel written in present and second person has the advantage of being funny in the right places, so I think it works. Otherwise, these exceptions to the use of third person work better in short stories.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 09:42 AM (wzUl9)
My youngest decided to re-read Lord of the Rings. We read it as a family years ago, but a lot of it went over her head. She was inspired by re-watching the movies, and when I blurted out that they were terrible, she chastised me for always being so critical and negative.
Two chapters later, she observed that Peter Jackson really screwed things up. Welcome to the club!
I could have joined her (we have at least six copies in the house, just in case), but I decided to pick up The Hobbit, which I haven't read in 15 years or so. The humor really stands out to me now, and I'm admiring the way Tolkien seamlessly blended rural Victorian England with high fantasy.
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I finished up reading "Dragons of Spring Dawning," the last installment in the original Dragonlance trilogy. It is unquestionably the best of the books. All the characters and concepts have already been established and set up, so all the time can be spent with the story, and delivering payoffs. Narratively, the core group of heroes established in the first book have been split into groups, but instead following each group through their own adventure, the story jumps from group to group detailing their actions as they affect the main sweep of the story. In a land undergoing world-changing events, we finally see the full scope of events! Even if certain events still happen off-screen.
Most importantly, we finally get some dragon-riding and the titular dragon-lances! And while the story is clearly sequel-baiting/setting up a sandbox for future stories, it does satisfying wrap up the major plotlines of the trilogy. Overall, I enjoyed it.
Posted by: Castle Guy at November 30, 2025 09:44 AM (Lhaco)
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Forsyth was also a reuters reporter, and an M i 6 stringer
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 30, 2025 09:44 AM (bXbFr)
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I am so glad Perfessor finally read Wind in the Willows. Hope it had the E. H. Shepard illustrations or similar. (Not the later Disney style stuff.) When I read it now, I imagine I was reading it aloud to a child with different voices for the characters and expressing the moods, often pure excitement and joy, in the story. It brings the book even more alive.
Malcolm Guite has a few YT videos where he reads segments out loud. They are a joy to hear.
Don't forget the recent William Horwood homages to the original book. They are a delight.
Posted by: JTB at November 30, 2025 09:46 AM (yTvNw)
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Is the ending of For Whom the Bell Tolls an "earned tragedy"? It's certainly tragic, but heroic too, like the end of Stephen King's The Dead Zone. Both are inevitable, yes, because of the choices the hero has made. Johnny Smith makes a difference in the world, yet we are pretty sure Robert Jordan will not.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 09:40 AM (wzUl9)
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I should re-read For Whom the Bell Tolls. It has been many years, and like Homage to Catalonia, my deeper knowledge of the Spanish Civil War will probably enhance my enjoyment.
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The only reading I've done this week was the greens on the golf course. In most cases I needed to reread them because they were like a story I didn't understand the first time.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2025 09:47 AM (y3bZw)
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Novelizations of films: One of the earliest I know of (ca. 1962) is David Westheimer's adaptation of Days of Wine and Roses. He adds some scenes, excellent ones, which are not in the finished film, and the final effect is as strong as the Lemmon/Remick film is.
Westheimer also wrote that WWII classic novel Von Ryan's Express, a very different kind of tale. He had range.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 09:47 AM (wzUl9)
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I love my Kindle (eyesight issues), and this week picked up John Ringo's "Not That Kind of Good Guy", part 1 of his new Shadow Path series. First impression,...
OMG, HOLY CHRIST ON A CUPCAKE!!!!!
I say that, not because of the storytelling, but the political/social commentary. This is "Illuminati" plus "Atlas Shrugged" mixed with a little "Logan's Run".
Ringo delivers an EPIC takedown of crime and social failure in Baltimore right at the beginning of the book. It's vicious and pointed. Living out here, it misses a few things, but the topics he hits on, are items that have been on WBFF for the last couple years.
Only halfway through it, but that's because I've had to re-read some sections because of the depth to make sure I understand what Ringo is really saying. This isn't your normal Ringo book. Sometimes I think sarcastically to myself, "So how do you REALLY feel, John?!?"
-SLV
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at November 30, 2025 09:49 AM (e/Osv)
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"Perfessor" Squirrel, thank you for your efforts. Your work, and the knowledgeable Horde, puts a smile on my face.
Have a great week in reading.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 30, 2025 09:49 AM (u82oZ)
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Present tense, a lack of quotation marks (as in Cormac McCarthy), or use of introductory dashes instead of quote marks (as in Joyce's Dubliners stories and a lot of Euro works) -- all make me feel oddly claustrophobic, or as if the writer is whispering in my ear instead of simply telling me the story as he should.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 09:50 AM (wzUl9)
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An additional note after reading the original Dragonlance trilogy; one of the major characters (in the latter books) was a woman named Kitiara. Now in 1985, that was a perfectly acceptable name for a sword-and-sorcery character.
However, when reading the story in 2025, Kitiara sounds very similar to Katara. Katara is the name of a character in a more recent and more well known (in certain circles) sword-and-sorcery story. And while Kitiara's and Katara's names may sound similar, and while they both have blue color schemes, their personalities are polar opposites! Mixing up the two of them, even momentarily, can really mess up how you picture the story!
Posted by: Castle Guy at November 30, 2025 09:50 AM (Lhaco)
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"a Mole, a Water Rat, a Toad, and a Badger--they interact with the "human" world as equals. So I'm not sure how the scale works here."
This is odd, coming from a squirrel.
Posted by: fd at November 30, 2025 09:50 AM (vFG9F)
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The big development in writing news is that I actually have some writing news. I'm finally getting around to doing a revision of Conqueror: Fields of Victory, my fantasy/historical miniatures rules. First edition was in 2013, revised in 2019, and now I'm going for 3.0.
This will be a comprehensive overhaul to clean up all the typos and rules inconsistencies as well as building out army lists and making it feel more like a complete game rather than a toolbox to build your own fantasy world.
The plus side is that the path before me is very clear, it's just time and careful execution. Plus, lots of playtesting!
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Rushed ending is probably the most common problem I've encountered over the years, the most prominent in my memory is the ending of the Death Gate Cycle. Great series and then the ending was completely rushed.
Posted by: Farquad at November 30, 2025 09:51 AM (CFMhl)
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Speaking of film novelizations, I understand that Earl Mac Rauch's own book version of his film The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the Eighth Dimension is absolutely legendary. It is also very rare, having never been reprinted for some weird business-related reason, and really expensive. Has anyone here had the privilege to read it? Is it worth the cost for a falling-apart, decades-old paperback? Thank you.
Posted by: werewife at November 30, 2025 09:51 AM (5ayY3)
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I should re-read For Whom the Bell Tolls. It has been many years, and like Homage to Catalonia, my deeper knowledge of the Spanish Civil War will probably enhance my enjoyment.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 30, 2025
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I re-read the final chapter of FWtBT and studied it carefully when I was writing a story in which the one of the main characters deliberately sacrifices himself to save his companions.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 09:52 AM (wzUl9)
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Not long after Heinlein's The Cat Who Walks Through Walls came out, I was at an SF con, talking with some fans. One said, "I hated the ending of Cat. It felt like a cop-out."
I goggled at him. "Haven't you ever read For Whom the Bell Tolls? It's the same kind of heroic sacrifice scene." And he -- an aspiring writer no less -- admitted he'd never read it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 09:57 AM (wzUl9)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 30, 2025 09:57 AM (bXbFr)
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I enjoyed that brief video linked in the post about James Madison's library at Montpelier. I consider a personal library to be indicative of the person. Learning what Madison , or Jefferson, etc., read to form their philosophy, tempered by hard experience, is fascinating. Collections of their personal correspondence are in the same category.
I take the same approach to authors I especially enjoy: Tolkien, Lewis, Chesterton, Churchill, George MacDonald, or Wendell Berry. What books did they read for pleasure and edification? What did they express on day to day matters in personal letters?
Posted by: JTB at November 30, 2025 09:58 AM (yTvNw)
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Westheimer also wrote that WWII classic novel Von Ryan's Express, a very different kind of tale. He had range.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 09:47 AM (wzUl9)
Shouldn't every good writer be able to write in more than one genre?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 30, 2025 09:58 AM (uQesX)
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James Kahn's novelization of Return of the Jedi is brilliant. It formed the core of my inspiration to write the Man of Destiny series, which was a correction to the terrible prequel films.
As in most novelizations, there are some expanded dialogue sequences, thus Luke and Obi-wan go deeper into the history, which was likely in the script but cut. It totally undermines the prequels, which are a direct contradiction. Anakin was not a kid, but an adult, about the same age as Luke when his adventure began.
This was central to my reimagining the story and while I'm biased, others (some in the Horde) will agree with me.
Kahn also has a nice turn of phrase, and the book includes a twist on the Death Star attack, which is that when the shield generator is actually taken out, the Emperor orders the station to destroy Endor in order to further enrage Luke. A bit much for the movie, but a nice touch.
My favorite part was the character portrait of Jerjerrod, the Death Star's commander.
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Grant should be in the top 10 of all Presidents. But the Left hates him. He freed the slaves and helped the former slave integrate into American society.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 30, 2025 09:40 AM (u82oZ)
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Yes. Frederick Douglass held him in as high regard as Lincoln for improving the lot of the black American.
Agree with you on "Fallen Angels" too. It's fun to speculate who his characters are based on, like Forrest J. Ackerman, etc.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 30, 2025 09:59 AM (kpS4V)
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I must have missed that nuance but i havent read it years
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 30, 2025 10:01 AM (bXbFr)
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I got hioked on some of the early novelizations of Star Trek TOS that led me to collect and read the first 75 books. Many were excellent stand alone adventures and filled in a lot of background of the characters. I thought it was interesting how the different authors kept the story lines consistent. I still reread some of them today.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2025 10:01 AM (y3bZw)
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I'm finally getting around to doing a revision of Conqueror: Fields of Victory, my fantasy/historical miniatures rules. First edition was in 2013, revised in 2019, and now I'm going for 3.0.
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That reminds me, I bought a war board game several years ago, but never played the game; I just wanted the infantry, cavalry, and cannon pieces. I designed a war game for my kids with it's own board and rules. Those games could go on for hours.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 30, 2025 10:01 AM (0U5gm)
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So, after finishing the Dragonlance trilogy, I decided to jump to some modern sword-and-sorcery novels. I've started reading "Ascendent" by Michael R Miller, because the ebook was cheap. It's a dragonrider book; with all the classic tropes. Intelligent, telepathic dragons, who form a psychic bond with their rider immediately upon hatching. There are color-coded powers and rankings. Dragonriders live in a parallel society and exist to fight to fight swarms of mind-less world-threatening force-of-evil monsters... Anyways, this story focuses on an emotional acts-before-he-thinks teenage boy, who breaks the rules to ensure a sickly-looking dragon-egg hatches, and thus forms a bond with a very unique pale dragon.
Note; everything I just said could also describe Anne McCaffery's "The White Dragons from way back in...I dunno, maybe the late 80's. The author of this story HAD to have read The White Dragon as a kid. That parallels are just too blatant.
I am still reading the book, but I'm a little annoyed at how much Mary Sue is in the main characters...
Posted by: Castle Guy at November 30, 2025 10:01 AM (Lhaco)
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I goggled at him. "Haven't you ever read For Whom the Bell Tolls? It's the same kind of heroic sacrifice scene." And he -- an aspiring writer no less -- admitted he'd never read it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 09:57 AM (wzUl9)
Can't read everything, Wolfus. Classic or not.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 30, 2025 10:01 AM (uQesX)
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Dune very much has a rushed ending. After plodding along, with tons of detail on the setting, it suddenly races to conclusion, even to the point of killing Paul's son offscreen - not even offscreen, almost as an afterthought.
I'm wondering if Herbert's publisher got impatient and demanded the deadline be honored, because that's what it feels like.
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One problem with the book is that it is so contemporary that it now pushes me out of the story.
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Similarly, I recently rewatched The Matrix, you know, the first one, the good one, well, the only one really. Anyway, not exactly cutting edge. They had flip phones and phone booths.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 30, 2025 10:02 AM (L/fGl)
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Eris, NaCly, the Ulysses S. Grant book. Is that author Ron Chernow?
I'm thinking of some reading series I'd like to do, one being a biography of each of the U. S. Presidents. I don't know what authors are good, and reliably accurate.
The other project I'm thinking of is reading something by/of the world's most influential revolutionaries, so I can point out in discussions exactly how and why they f**ked everything up so much.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 30, 2025 10:03 AM (L/fGl)
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I'm continuing with Pride and Prejudice. Still enjoying it but it's going slower than I expected because I find myself savoring the writing, especially the dry humor, Austen is so good at. Which is fine. I'm not in a hurry or in a race.
Posted by: JTB at November 30, 2025 10:03 AM (yTvNw)
118 Shouldn't every good writer be able to write in more than one genre?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 30, 2025
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I think so. Sometimes literary authors manage it, but far too often they get some of the tropes of the genre (mystery or SF) wrong or leave them out entirely. Ira Levin, on the other hand, successfully penned a mystery novel and a crime play, at least two SF novels, a horror fantasy, and more than one Broadway comedy, No Time for Sergeants. He's a good example of an author with a wide range.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:04 AM (wzUl9)
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Each Frank Herbert "Dune" book was half as good as the one before it. -Somebody, not me.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 30, 2025 10:04 AM (8QVSJ)
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That reminds me, I bought a war board game several years ago, but never played the game; I just wanted the infantry, cavalry, and cannon pieces. I designed a war game for my kids with it's own board and rules. Those games could go on for hours.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 30, 2025 10:01 AM (0U5gm)
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I have a bunch of things like that kicking around the house.
The last project was a card-driven version of Kingmaker, and I pirated tokens from a tactical Risk-branded game that sucked.
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Have been thinking about revisiting Hemingway and Fitzgerald too. Except for Gatsby and some of Hemingway's short stories, I haven't read them in decades.
I envy people who can read the works of a single author front to back without jumping to something else in the middle. But that just doesn't seem to work for me these days. Sorry, Nabokov -- I'll get back to you Real Soon Now...
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 30, 2025 10:05 AM (q3u5l)
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With Levin, make that three SF novels, or two horror fantasies. I forgot The Stepford Wives.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:05 AM (wzUl9)
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This past week I've been reading _The Romanov Rescue_ by Kacey Ezell, Tom Kratman and Justin Watson. It's an alternate-history story about a plot to save the Romanovs from the Commies. Some of my favorite German WWI characters get involved -- Max Hoffmann and Ludwig Bockholt among others. Too bad they couldn't work in Von Lettow somehow.
You'd expect a nonstop slam-bang action story but there's actually quite a lot of the novel devoted to the nuts and bolts of building a commando strike force out of Russian royalist POWs, training and equipping them with captured gear, and how to get them deep into Russian territory without being noticed (the name Bockholt should be a clue). That's really the heart of the story so if you don't go for that kind of military-history wonkery the book will probably bore you.
Not for the squeamish, either. Late WWI and Russian Revolution era involved a lot of real savagery and the authors don't shy away from any of it.
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 30, 2025 10:07 AM (78a2H)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 30, 2025 10:08 AM (bXbFr)
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Similarly, I recently rewatched The Matrix, you know, the first one, the good one, well, the only one really. Anyway, not exactly cutting edge. They had flip phones and phone booths.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
I know. I watched How the West was Won not too long ago, and they didn't even have phones.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 30, 2025 10:08 AM (0U5gm)
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With flavors of zahiroff the dodgy arms dealer
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 30, 2025 10:08 AM (bXbFr)
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Similarly, I recently rewatched The Matrix, you know, the first one, the good one, well, the only one really. Anyway, not exactly cutting edge. They had flip phones and phone booths.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 30, 2025 10:02 AM (L/fGl)
IIRC, that was intentional, as the Machines had set up the Matrix to mimic the 1990s, the peak of American civilization. Little did we know that they were correct.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 30, 2025 10:08 AM (8QVSJ)
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I think so. Sometimes literary authors manage it, but far too often they get some of the tropes of the genre (mystery or SF) wrong or leave them out entirely. Ira Levin, on the other hand, successfully penned a mystery novel and a crime play, at least two SF novels, a horror fantasy, and more than one Broadway comedy, No Time for Sergeants. He's a good example of an author with a wide range.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:04 AM (wzUl9)
Well, I think so. That's why I'm trying more than one.
Anyway, gotta go. Prolly miss the rest of the thread.
Thanks, Perfessor.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 30, 2025 10:09 AM (uQesX)
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Finally hung two maps in my library, the Pauline Baynes map of Narnia and her "There and Back Again" map from "The Hobbit". Really classes up the joint. Now all I need is a plinth and a globe that opens up to reveal a curated wet bar.
My map of Middle Earth should be back from the framers in a week.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 30, 2025 10:09 AM (kpS4V)
I cant even begin to describe it
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 30, 2025 09:57 AM (bXbFr)
A sequel to Buckaroo? Buckaroo Banzai? How would someone improve on it?
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 10:09 AM (i+bC1)
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I envy people who can read the works of a single author front to back without jumping to something else in the middle. But that just doesn't seem to work for me these days. Sorry, Nabokov -- I'll get back to you Real Soon Now...
Posted by: Just Some Guy
I can't even stick to one book at a time; I always have three or four going, and jump back and forth.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 30, 2025 10:10 AM (0U5gm)
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I envy people who can read the works of a single author front to back without jumping to something else in the middle. But that just doesn't seem to work for me these days. Sorry, Nabokov -- I'll get back to you Real Soon Now...
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 30, 2025 10:05 AM (q3u5l)
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It depends upon the author and nature of the work. I was on the Graham Greene train for a while, but he has a pretty big catalog, and I get distracted.
I think the season also matters. Summer reading is a thing. In Michigan, we get all of the seasons, and when the weather turns, lots of cozy reading time, but in my case, also gaming. As soon as the weather breaks, we can't wait to get outside.
But in the meantime, happiness is fresh minis to paint for an upcoming game.
133More like moriarty outfit writ large
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 30, 2025
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Which was David McDaniel's exact origin story for Thrush in his first U.N.C.L.E. tie-in novel, The Dagger Affair. He does not name Moriarty, but says the late founder of the criminal organization that later became Thrush had been talented "in two somewhat related areas, mathematics and crime." That I think is an exact Holmes quote describing Moriarty.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:11 AM (wzUl9)
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I see they're making a William the Conqueror movie. I can still hope it'll be good.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 30, 2025 10:12 AM (L/fGl)
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We visited Madison's Montpelier in 2012 along with Mount Vernon and Monticello. They are all special but Montpelier was our favorite, I guess because it felt more personal and less grand. It was also pretty empty at the time and I'd be interested to see how they have repopulated the house in the last 13 years.
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at November 30, 2025 10:12 AM (FEVMW)
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 10:12 AM (i+bC1)
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In the world of comic books, I was working through a "Tomb Raider" collection, and came across a truly shocking story. Lara Croft, our bad-ass strong-female-character action-hero main character, got captured by the villain's henchmen. She was surprised, outnumbered, thoroughly out-matched, and about to be dragged away....And then Lara was rescued. By a guy. Specifically, by her potential love-interest! And the moment wasn't ruined or undercut in any way!
Imagine; a male character being allowed to be useful in a story about an action-girl! That's downright un-heard-of! At least in today's environment. It become a little more believable when you remember that the comic was written in 1999 or 2000...
As a quick, super-general review, I don't think these Tomb Raider comics (in the Tomb Raider Colossal Collection 1) have any real connection to any of the games. They are just stand-alone stories in that genre. I don't even know if the love interest mentioned above is an actual character from the games... The stores are too wild to be taken seriously, but they are well-drawn, so they work as light-hearted pulpy fun.
Posted by: Castle Guy at November 30, 2025 10:12 AM (Lhaco)
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"Flashman's Lady" has a scene in which a top aide to the White Rajah of Sarawak takes his riverboat farther ahead of the Rajah's vessel to spring a trap consisting of armed natives lying in ambush along both sides of the river. Flashy fell overboard and thus survived.
Posted by: Weak Geek at November 30, 2025 10:13 AM (p/isN)
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69 Been picking up a lot of 99 cent Collected works of ...
Like Kipling, HG Wells, George MacDonald, and Edgar Rice Burroughs. I note with the later that the description lies, and my own library is much more complete that Kindle's promised complete works of ERB.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 30, 2025 09:33 AM
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The best source for all your public-domain reading needs is the Delphi Classics series. They're easily available at Amazon and Delphi's own site; most collections cost $2.99, but for those two extra dollars you get navigable tables of contents, author biographies, important contextual material, and often the illustrations from the original editions! Even more exciting, if you purchase a Collected Edition (say of ERB or Johnston McCulley or whomever) because the Complete Works are not yet available under US copyright law (curse its bloated name!), it'll get updated with new material as later works enter the public domain. I've bought at least a dozen of the suckers!
Posted by: werewife at November 30, 2025 10:14 AM (5ayY3)
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Speaking of Founding Fathers' libraries, John Adams's library at Peacefield is really beautiful too.
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at November 30, 2025 10:14 AM (FEVMW)
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C S Lewis wrote on the questions you have about Wind in the Willows. He thinks it is a particular feature possible only in children's books. The move about freely, but have all their needs taken care of.
Also, the interaction question tells me you don't read that much children's lit. It's a common feature there, too. Jungle Books, Oz, many more.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 30, 2025 10:15 AM (s0JqF)
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Buckaroo sequel.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 10:12 AM (i+bC1)
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Over the last few years I've been going back and watching all the movies I missed in the 80s. Some were just as well, as I wasn't old enough to get them, others were date flicks and I was tragically lacking in that department.
Buckaroo Banzai was one that I kept meaning to see and never did. The crazy thing was that we had a Sci-Fi Club in high school that watched movies after school on Friday, and it was in regular rotation, I just always missed when it was showing.
I finally closed that circle and it was amusing, and also packed with people who would shortly go on to bigger and better things. We don't have that today. You can't go see a film whose entire cast will go on to stardom.
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A lot of us have large personal libraries now, but think back to 250 years ago, when books were extraordinarily expensive, and these men had quite a bit of money tied up in books.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 30, 2025 10:17 AM (0U5gm)
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Good morning all.
Late and haven't read all the comments yet because I did not want to get out of bed this morning. Still looked like night when I woke up. No snow just rain but dreary.
No progress with Zelazny but read a new J.R. Ward that was pretty good.
Exciting though is a new Sanderson co-written with MaryKowal called The Original. Sci Fi mystery. Just started but really good. Report next week.
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I see they're making a William the Conqueror movie. I can still hope it'll be good.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land
Expect race swapped actors. That seems to be the norm these days.
Posted by: Tuna at November 30, 2025 10:18 AM (lJ0H4)
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Someone had asked about Michael Gilbert, on of my favorites. It set me off on rereading some of his. One thing - I don't think I know of any other author (in English) with so many alternate titles. A quick scan shows that about 1/4 to 1/3 have 2 names. I don't think even Wodehouse runs that high.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 30, 2025 10:19 AM (s0JqF)
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41 Started and finished "Saint Odd" this week. This was the final "Odd Thomas" book in the Dean Koonz series. I think Mr Koonz must have been tired of writing about Oddie when he penned it. A good portion of the book was simply excerpts from earlier books and then the ending was anticlimactic. I thought I must have missed a chapter because by this time I was just skimming the pages, but no, it was finished. Like a S. King book.
Ugh
Posted by: p0indexterous at November 30, 2025 09:16 AM (wf0SQ)
I know older tv shows had clip-show episodes, which were created because of budget/filming/time constraints. But it's hard to imagine what circumstances would force a novel to use clips of other books....Anyways, yeah, I'd find that disappointing, too.
Posted by: Castle Guy at November 30, 2025 10:19 AM (Lhaco)
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45 I wonder what James Madison read? I suppose I'd know if I watched the video, but I can't be bothered to watch videos. Heh.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 30, 2025 09:18 AM (h7ZuX)
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Posted by: Eeyore at November 30, 2025 10:20 AM (s0JqF)
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Eris, NaCly, the Ulysses S. Grant book. Is that author Ron Chernow?
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Dash, yes it is by Ron Chernow. Big thumuppage from me.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 30, 2025 10:21 AM (kpS4V)
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C S Lewis wrote on the questions you have about Wind in the Willows. He thinks it is a particular feature possible only in children's books. The move about freely, but have all their needs taken care of.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 30, 2025 10:15 AM (s0JqF)
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One of the many great things about Tolkien is how he considers logistics. Food is a big deal, and he goes into it quite a bit. It's one of the things that make it all feel so real.
Obviously his Army experience helps this, and when Pipping brings it up in Minas Tirith, you can't help but smile that it's true that "old campaigners" are always worried about their next meal. I think a huge amount of conversations in the military are about when we eat and what will it be.
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I so enjoyed Dean Koontz' A Big Little Life, about his dog, that I bought copies for both my sisters and my mother. It was disappointing in one respect, however. Koontz publishes so much I thought surely he had sold his soul to the Devil. But no, he describes his writing set up and his routine of hard work. Anthony Horowitz may well be the same, not mere genius but hard work.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 30, 2025 10:21 AM (L/fGl)
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The Earl Mac Rauch novelization of Buckaroo was very good. It maintained the fiction that this was all "real" and part of a long ongoing series of exploits by BB&co. Footnotes referencing previous adventures, that kind of thing.
They did much the same with the DVD release: there's a commentary track _by the characters_ about how well this "movie adaptation" depicts the real events of the story.
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 30, 2025 10:22 AM (78a2H)
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Expect race swapped actors. That seems to be the norm these days.
Posted by: Tuna at November 30, 2025 10:18 AM (lJ0H4)
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The question arises: Is Rosemary's Baby a suspense-paranoia novel, or a horror fantasy? Until the final chapter, when Rosemary sees her baby's horns and claws, it seems to be the former. Unless Rosemary is hallucinating somehow, along with the members of the cult, this detail moves it out into the area of fantasy.
The Stepford Wives: Is it SF or not? The robotic wives bring it under the former heading. The novel is intended to be satirical, so it's hardly an Asimov-style robot story, but the underpinnings qualify it, just as The Boys From Brazil is qualified by the then-future idea of cloning.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:22 AM (wzUl9)
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They don't say.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 30, 2025 10:20 AM (s0JqF)
Oh, then I'm especially glad I didn't sit through the video. Thanks.
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50 The nice thing about reading history is you often know how it ends, it's the path that gets there is the question
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 09:20 AM (Ia/+0)
I dunno, I often dread the moment when it all comes crashing down.
Right now I'm listening to a lecture series on the nomadic cultures of the steppes, and I'm just about to reach the point where Islam enters the picture. So maybe I'm just in a dour mood, as far as history goes...
Posted by: Castle Guy at November 30, 2025 10:24 AM (Lhaco)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 30, 2025 10:24 AM (bXbFr)
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I’ve started reading Many Dimensions by Charles Williams.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 30, 2025 10:24 AM (3uBP9)
159Someone had asked about Michael Gilbert, on of my favorites. It set me off on rereading some of his. One thing - I don't think I know of any other author (in English) with so many alternate titles. A quick scan shows that about 1/4 to 1/3 have 2 names. I don't think even Wodehouse runs that high.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 30, 2025
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Do you mean different titles for American editions vs. the English editions? John Dickson Carr's The Hollow Man was known as The Three Coffins when it was published in America, for example.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:25 AM (wzUl9)
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I dunno, I often dread the moment when it all comes crashing down.
Right now I'm listening to a lecture series on the nomadic cultures of the steppes, and I'm just about to reach the point where Islam enters the picture. So maybe I'm just in a dour mood, as far as history goes...
Posted by: Castle Guy at November 30, 2025 10:24 AM (Lhaco)
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A huge amount of great novels are set on the edge of disaster, and IIRC, the Perfesser used that as one of his themes. Gone with the Wind, The Winds of War, North and South...the list just goes on and on.
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I see they're making a William the Conqueror movie. I can still hope it'll be good.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land
Expect race swapped actors. That seems to be the norm these days.
Posted by: Tuna at November 30, 2025 10:18 AM (lJ0H4)
William the Conqueror was actually a black, transexual, illegal alien who was raised by lesbian space witches.
Posted by: Netflix and Disney at November 30, 2025 10:26 AM (8QVSJ)
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I like "The Great Gatsby." There is a moral to the story.
Don't chase a married woman.
Posted by: no one at November 30, 2025 10:27 AM (GLn15)
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William the Conqueror will be a Trannie
Bishop Otto is a pedophile, Harold was married to a man
Ok, getting cynical with constant woke movies
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 10:27 AM (Ia/+0)
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William the Conqueror was actually a black, transexual, illegal alien who was raised by lesbian space witches.
Posted by: Netflix and Disney at November 30, 2025 10:26 AM (8QVSJ)
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No, that would make him sympathetic. The new hotness is that Britain *always* was packed with Muslims from Pakistan and Nigeria, they were just hidden by bigoted historians.
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I've also been re-reading some SF anthologies from the past decade or so, and being disappointed. A lot of what Sarah Hoyt calls "gray goo" fiction. A lot of stories which just _assume_ that humans are the bad guys. Tiresome -- and not particularly original, either. I've been seeing that since the 1970s.
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 30, 2025 10:29 AM (78a2H)
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Dash, I'm trying to think of other presidential biographies I enjoyed.
One is definitely "Mornings on Horseback : The Story of an Extraordinary Family, a Vanished Way of Life and the Unique Child Who Became Theodore Roosevelt" by David McCullough. It's as much about his family as the man himself.
And as usual I'll tout "The River of Doubt" by Candace Millard, about that arduous trip to the Amazon.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 30, 2025 10:29 AM (kpS4V)
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Just started "The War for Middle-Earth" by Joseph Laconte. It's sort of a continuation of his previous book, "A Hobbit, A Wardrobe and a Great War". He deals with the mindset that led Europe into both world Wars and the dehumanization, dissolution, and nihilism that came out of the wars, especially WW I. Dadaism, communision, fascism, and anti-Christian attitudes in academia, the arts, and government generally. Against that backdrop, some like Lewis, Tolkien and a few others who still valued and celebrated traditional values and the individual stand out like candles in a dark space. And how the public, despite everything they are taught to the contrary, craves those values. The feeling is one of hope, maybe redemption, in a struggle to remain human and positive.
Posted by: JTB at November 30, 2025 10:30 AM (yTvNw)
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And as usual I'll tout "The River of Doubt" by Candace Millard, about that arduous trip to the Amazon.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes
I second that recommendation. Excellent book.
Posted by: Tuna at November 30, 2025 10:30 AM (lJ0H4)
Blackstone Publishing has reissued all of his work. The novels and the plays except for a single play that was never produced on stage. All of it's worth a read. He could do the suspense novel, the horror story, the comedy, the dystopian sf novel, and do it all well.
Offhand, I can't remember anyone else who worked so consistently well across multiple genres.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 30, 2025 10:32 AM (q3u5l)
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And as usual I'll tout "The River of Doubt" by Candace Millard, about that arduous trip to the Amazon.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes
Teddy had a first generation laptop running Windows?
(I read TRoD and loved it.)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 30, 2025 10:33 AM (L/fGl)
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"Rushed resolution" - in the Manga/Manhwa world, this is one of the unsatisfying conclusions of a work, but one that is usually much better than the alternative - "Axed". If a story isn't bringing in the money, they may just cut their losses midway into the product. Right in the middle of a storyline.
And similar to the cliffhanger season ending that became the series ending, most folks won't want to start it if they know it doesn't have a proper ending point. Which means less of a long tail of readers/watchers/buyers, as well.
Posted by: Another Anon at November 30, 2025 10:33 AM (4h45B)
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Against that backdrop, some like Lewis, Tolkien and a few others who still valued and celebrated traditional values and the individual stand out like candles in a dark space. And how the public, despite everything they are taught to the contrary, craves those values. The feeling is one of hope, maybe redemption, in a struggle to remain human and positive.
Posted by: JTB at November 30, 2025 10:30 AM (yTvNw)
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The Christmas Truce of 1914 was part of that fading culture.
For a brief moment, the guns stopped and there was a fear that the troops would refuse to continue. In the early days of the interwebs, I was on a WW I discussion forum and they always had a Christmas truce where flame wars and shitposting were forbidden.
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And as usual I'll tout "The River of Doubt" by Candace Millard, about that arduous trip to the Amazon.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 30, 2025 10:29 AM (kpS4V)
Oh, yeah! I started that once, on audio, and decided I'd rather read a hard copy when I'm not distracted by driving and chores. It's somewhere in my hundreds of TBR lists. Will check out Mornings on Horseback, as well. Thanks!
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In regard to history and historical fiction, I'll recommend the comics maxiseries The Kents, featuring the ancestors of Jonathan Kent. Adopted son Clark finds a trove of journals, and we go off following the experiences of an Abolitionist father and his two sons after they move to Bleeding Kansas.
The writer, John Ostrander, blended in a lot of real events, exploring the "why" they happened.
And with art by Tim Truman! ... I should reread this.
Posted by: Weak Geek at November 30, 2025 10:33 AM (p/isN)
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JTB, Laconte's book sounds very interesting. I've been wanting to get back into some more nonfiction, including history. I wonder if my local library has it or can get it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:34 AM (wzUl9)
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And as usual I'll tout "The River of Doubt" by Candace Millard, about that arduous trip to the Amazon.
Posted by: All Hail Eris
Very good book.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 30, 2025 10:35 AM (0U5gm)
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"Rushed resolution" - in the Manga/Manhwa world, this is one of the unsatisfying conclusions of a work, but one that is usually much better than the alternative - "Axed". If a story isn't bringing in the money, they may just cut their losses midway into the product. Right in the middle of a storyline.
Posted by: Another Anon at November 30, 2025 10:33 AM (4h45B)
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I will not watch a series that is not complete. I know that hurts ratings, but I've been taught multiple times that either they get dropped while I'm watching them, or go crazy woke and tank.
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Over the years of my husband's illness, I formed the habit of getting up at 4 and writing till he woke up. You can build up a lot of product that way!
So my reading now is going back over those mss to what editing they need. I'm actually enjoying this. It often seems like someone else's work, and I'm just looking over her shoulder.
Posted by: Wenda at November 30, 2025 10:36 AM (/WpRi)
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And if you like _River of Doubt_ let me recommend once again _Into the Amazon_, a bio of TR's co-commander on that expedition, Brazilian Col. (later General) Candido Rondon. Fascinating guy. Born a poor and probably illegitimate half-breed in a remote Amazon settlement, got an appointment to military academy, picked the winning side in Brazil's anti-monarchist revolution, built telegraph systems and roads across the Amazon region, and founded the Indian Protection Service. He has a state named after him now in Brazil.
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 30, 2025 10:36 AM (78a2H)
180I will not watch a series that is not complete. I know that hurts ratings, but I've been taught multiple times that either they get dropped while I'm watching them, or go crazy woke and tank.
Same for books.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 30, 2025
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I got lucky with Breaking Bad. Not only did it complete, and very satisfactorily, but I never saw it while it was running, just viewed the entire set after it was all over.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:37 AM (wzUl9)
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Presidential auto-biographies. "At Ease: Stories I Tell to Friends" by Dwight Eisenhower.
During the inter-war years, Ike considered giving up his commission and becoming the football coach at West Point.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 30, 2025 10:37 AM (8QVSJ)
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Ira Levin, on the other hand, successfully penned a mystery novel and a crime play, at least two SF novels, a horror fantasy, and more than one Broadway comedy, No Time for Sergeants. He's a good example of an author with a wide range.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:04 AM
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Said mystery novel, A Kiss Before Dying, has the most astonishing twist I've ever encountered -- had to stop reading it for a bit to assimilate the change. And one of the SF novels, This Perfect Day, has a twist almost as astonishing, and is probably my favorite dystopia.
Posted by: werewife at November 30, 2025 10:38 AM (5ayY3)
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He deals with the mindset that led Europe into both world Wars and the dehumanization, dissolution, and nihilism that came out of the wars, especially WW I. Dadaism, communision, fascism, and anti-Christian attitudes in academia, the arts, and government generally.”
I should like to read that, because I’ve long been interested in those themes. The anti-Christian attitude in Europe, especially - they felt that God betrayed them by allowing them to be destroyed by the terrible wars, even though the wars were the products of their own prideful and violent hearts.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 10:38 AM (3U2FH)
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Jim Acosta: Leftwing media should threaten to not show up to Trump’s press avails anymore “until you clean up your act."
Great idea. Do it. Please.
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Yeah, Jim, you ugly dumb c*nts gotta stick together.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 30, 2025 10:41 AM (L/fGl)
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Thanks for all the presidential suggestions. Gotta go make the dog food, but I'll peruse later for any additional.
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One thing about Rondon -- he was obviously a genius. Spoke who knows how many languages, excellent engineer, etc. And yet he simultaneously refutes both hereditary and environmental theories of intelligence. His ancestry on both sides were dirt-poor, utterly unremarkable. No hint of brilliance. But remote Amazon villages and the Brazilian Army were also not particularly renowned for churning out geniuses, either, so his upbringing and environment didn't make him brilliant, either. Apparently he had some innate spark, and the guts and sheer perseverance to turn that potential into reality.
Amusing note: in every photo of him I've seen, even when in the depths of the Amazon jungle or relaxing at home, he's wearing his Brazilian Army uniform with the tunic buttoned right up to his chin.
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 30, 2025 10:42 AM (78a2H)
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Zelazny on your list takes me back. When in early grades I had joined the Science Fiction Book Club, where I got 20?) free books to join in exchange for a monthly commitment of some sort. There I found Chronicles of Amber and read many others of his following
Posted by: German Shepherd at November 30, 2025 10:42 AM (6CWpO)
188[Levin's] mystery novel, A Kiss Before Dying, has the most astonishing twist I've ever encountered -- had to stop reading it for a bit to assimilate the change. And one of the SF novels, This Perfect Day, has a twist almost as astonishing, and is probably my favorite dystopia.
Posted by: werewife at November 30, 2025
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Stephen King described the AKBD twist as immune to the Reader Who Looks at the End to See How It Comes Out. If you look at the end of Kiss without reading the first half, it means nothing. If you've read everything up to that twist point, it means everything.
I need to re-read TPD, though, to see what you mean on that one.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:43 AM (wzUl9)
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Never saw Breaking Bad during its run. Ditto The Wire. Never started the Game of Thrones books. Caught The Wire and Breaking Bad after they were complete. Don't like getting burned with a series cancellation before they finish.
They tried a reboot of the Fugitive some years back, with Tim Daly and Mykelti Williamson as Kimble and Gerard respectively. Cast was okay, but I didn't think the series had the writing it needed. It lasted one season. The last episode ended on a cliffhanger, never to be resolved.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 30, 2025 10:44 AM (q3u5l)
190Zelazny on your list takes me back. When in early grades I had joined the Science Fiction Book Club, where I got 20?) free books to join in exchange for a monthly commitment of some sort. There I found Chronicles of Amber and read many others of his following
Posted by: German Shepherd at November 30, 2025
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Zelazny had a fondness for the crime genre. His novelette "Home Is the Hangman" shows his interest in that kind of story without destroying the SF parts.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:45 AM (wzUl9)
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Any recommendations for good books about Thailand? Novels, histories, travelogues, whatever.
Posted by: Trimegistus at November 30, 2025 10:46 AM (78a2H)
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174 In regard to history and historical fiction, I'll recommend the comics maxiseries The Kents, featuring the ancestors of Jonathan Kent. Adopted son Clark finds a trove of journals, and we go off following the experiences of an Abolitionist father and his two sons after they move to Bleeding Kansas.
The writer, John Ostrander, blended in a lot of real events, exploring the "why" they happened.
And with art by Tim Truman! ... I should reread this.
Posted by: Weak Geek at November 30, 2025 10:33 AM (p/isN)
Hm. Not sure I've read much by Ostrander, but I'm pretty sure he's got a good reputation. I know he's not on my do-not-buy list... So maybe that's something to look at.
On the other hand, I just spent waaaaaaaaaay too much on a Black-Friday comic-buying-binge, so I really shouldn't be looking for any new series until....sometime in 2027.
Posted by: Castle Guy at November 30, 2025 10:47 AM (Lhaco)
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Perfessor - Thank you for reminding me of the Disney movie The Black Hole. I remember seeing it in the theater when it came out and liking it a lot. I don't remember much else about it, however.
May need to give that a rewatch/reread.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 30, 2025 10:48 AM (0CU3H)
194. . . They tried a reboot of the Fugitive some years back, with Tim Daly and Mykelti Williamson as Kimble and Gerard respectively. Cast was okay, but I didn't think the series had the writing it needed. It lasted one season. The last episode ended on a cliffhanger, never to be resolved.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 30, 2025
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I remember that -- early 2000s, I think. At that point the concept of a lone man, even with some occasional help, staying ahead of law enforcement was hard to sustain belief in, and would be harder now. In 1963-67, ID was not anywhere near as universally required, and law enforcement didn't talk to each other across different domains as much as they do now. So Kimble's continuing quest was believable.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:50 AM (wzUl9)
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171 "Rushed resolution" - in the Manga/Manhwa world, this is one of the unsatisfying conclusions of a work, but one that is usually much better than the alternative - "Axed". If a story isn't bringing in the money, they may just cut their losses midway into the product. Right in the middle of a storyline.
Posted by: Another Anon at November 30, 2025 10:33 AM (4h45B)
Back when I was trying to find good animes, I felt like I ran across a lot of rushed/randomly epic endings. All of a sudden, the story would get 3 or 4 new plot lines, which end in a big messy climax, that felt like it had nothing to do with the main characters that we had been following. The only ending like that that I can still remember was Escaflone, so maybe it wasn't as common a trope as I imagined.....But that ending really annoyed me.
Posted by: Castle Guy at November 30, 2025 10:52 AM (Lhaco)
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Zelazny did a novel that was published by Hard Case Crime long after his death. The book was called The Dead Man's Brother and it was not sf/fantasy. Couldn't get into it at all. Seemed readable enough, but we just weren't in Zelazny country and the book just wasn't working for me at all.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 30, 2025 10:52 AM (q3u5l)
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175 ... "Laconte's book sounds very interesting. I've been wanting to get back into some more nonfiction, including history. I wonder if my local library has it or can get it."
Hi Wolfus,
The new Laconte book just came out a week or so ago, so libraries probably won't have it yet. They might have the previous book. The paperback for that is about 8 bucks on Amazon and the Kindle version is two dollars. Since it is mostly text, the Kindle version is adequate.
Fair warning. The books celebrate the values and life choices of Lewis and Tolkien but also deals with matters that make my blood boil. Just in the first chapter Laconte brings up Sigmund Freud, who I despise on many levels, and eugenics, which is an abomination against humanity and Heaven.
Posted by: JTB at November 30, 2025 10:52 AM (yTvNw)
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Wakipedia more or less says if America had just given Japan what they wanted they wouldn’t have done that thing December 7, 1941.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 10:53 AM (i+bC1)
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Well, it's been settled. Trump is not Hitler. He's worse than Hitler.
David Letterman on Donald Trump: “It’s just a wonder of idiocy. It’s never ending. He’s our dictator. His appearance is fraudulent as is everything about the regime. It’s like 18 times the worst behavior one has witnessed ever anywhere. Think of the worst thing that you’ve ever seen humans accomplish. This is so much worse.”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 30, 2025 10:53 AM (L/fGl)
200The new Laconte book just came out a week or so ago, so libraries probably won't have it yet. They might have the previous book. The paperback for that is about 8 bucks on Amazon and the Kindle version is two dollars. Since it is mostly text, the Kindle version is adequate.
Fair warning. The books celebrate the values and life choices of Lewis and Tolkien but also deals with matters that make my blood boil. Just in the first chapter Laconte brings up Sigmund Freud, who I despise on many levels, and eugenics, which is an abomination against humanity and Heaven.
Posted by: JTB at November 30, 2025
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Maybe I can get the earlier one to start with. As far as Freud and eugenics, those were hot topics at the time, so any book on the era has to deal with them.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:54 AM (wzUl9)
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If you torrent, the Earl Mac Rauch novelization of Buckaroo is available in epub.
Posted by: jayhawkone at November 30, 2025 10:55 AM (atzbh)
202 Wakipedia more or less says if America had just given Japan what they wanted they wouldn’t have done that thing December 7, 1941.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025
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Sure. We could have sold them all the oil and rubber they wanted, so they could make war on and take over all of east Asia. /s
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:56 AM (wzUl9)
If they were hunting Richard Kimble these days, all they'd have to do is sic the vehicle-extended-warranty people on him. They'd catch him in a week.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 30, 2025 10:58 AM (q3u5l)
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I've been watching Person of Interest on Prime. On the last season, there are 5, and just encountered the first slightly Woke scene.Really good Sci Fi. Pretty clear cut good guys, bad guys. Theme"The Government is watching your every move."
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I was going to read The Never Ending Story but just didn’t have the time.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025 10:59 AM (KDPiq)
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“ No one who hopes in you will ever be put to shame, but shame will come on those who are treacherous without cause.”
Psalm 25:3
Posted by: Marcus T at November 30, 2025 11:02 AM (60OBK)
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David Letterman on Donald Trump: “It’s just a wonder of idiocy. It’s never ending. He’s our dictator. His appearance is fraudulent as is everything about the regime. It’s like 18 times the worst behavior one has witnessed ever anywhere. Think of the worst thing that you’ve ever seen humans accomplish. This is so much worse.”
Worse than setting up a love nest next to your office to bang employees?
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025 11:02 AM (KDPiq)
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206 I was going to read The Never Ending Story but just didn’t have the time.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025 10:59 AM (KDPiq)
Spoiler alert-
They flew away. Just flew away.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 11:02 AM (i+bC1)
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159 Someone had asked about Michael Gilbert, on of my favorites. It set me off on rereading some of his. One thing - I don't think I know of any other author (in English) with so many alternate titles. A quick scan shows that about 1/4 to 1/3 have 2 names. I don't think even Wodehouse runs that high.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 30, 2025
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Do you mean different titles for American editions vs. the English editions? John Dickson Carr's The Hollow Man was known as The Three Coffins when it was published in America, for example.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 10:25 AM (wzUl9)
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A good example of what I mean. Oddly enough, my copy of The Hollow Man was so named, though published here. Some of my Gilberts also use the Brit title, though published here.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 30, 2025 11:03 AM (s0JqF)
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At the end of one late 1940s Ellery novel, the Queen cousins have Ellery concluding -- after his logic has led to the death of two innocent people -- that he will no longer involve himself in real-world mysteries but stick to writing his detective stories. It feels like the end of the series.
At the start of the next book, he is still determined to stay aloof -- but he is drawn into a case against his will and better judgment, because his father the Inspector is in charge of a peculiar serial killer case. It doesn't feel as though the writers are ignoring the previous novel, but continuing and amplifying the situation.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 11:04 AM (wzUl9)
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18 times the worst, huh? Why 18? Is he sure it wasn't only 17?
And was Letterman in a boxcar when he made the comment? If not, I think he was exaggerating just a smidgen.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 30, 2025 11:05 AM (q3u5l)
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If you ask the idiots what actions Trump has taken as a dictator they they wouldn’t have an answer except some retarded nonsensical reply.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025 11:07 AM (KDPiq)
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Charlie Sheen Reveals His Political Shift After Doing His Own Research: “Hypnotized by State-Run Media”
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And the cocaine! Don't forget the cocaine!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 30, 2025 11:07 AM (L/fGl)
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177 "Rushed resolution" - in the Manga/Manhwa world, this is one of the unsatisfying conclusions of a work, but one that is usually much better than the alternative - "Axed". If a story isn't bringing in the money, they may just cut their losses midway into the product. Right in the middle of a storyline.
Posted by: Another Anon at November 30, 2025 10:33 AM (4h45B)
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I will not watch a series that is not complete. I know that hurts ratings, but I've been taught multiple times that either they get dropped while I'm watching them, or go crazy woke and tank.
Same for books.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 30, 2025 10:35 AM (ZOv7s)
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For TV, I go farther. I will not watch continued stories, period, unless it's something I know. (I, Claudius. Band of Brothers.)
I make an exception if it's set in Frostbite Falls, MN.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 30, 2025 11:07 AM (s0JqF)
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>>> 13 Just finished Fade by Daniel Humphries. I think he's a moron. About to start the second book in the series.
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at November 30, 2025 09:06 AM (VCgbV)
Lower case or capital M? istr he pops in here every so often as "Emile Antoon Kadaji".
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 30, 2025 11:08 AM (ULPxl)
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Worse than setting up a love nest next to your office to bang employees?
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025 11:02 AM (KDPiq)
Worse than growing a unabomber beard and hoping no one will notice?
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 11:10 AM (3U2FH)
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Morning, all. Slept late (feeling pretty depressed).
WRT Trek novelisations, I picked up a kid's / teen's version of The Search For Spock the other week. I'll let you know how faithful to the movie it is.
Guess the thread's near the end. Hope you all have a happy day.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 30, 2025 11:11 AM (ufSfZ)
219They tried a reboot of the Fugitive some years back, with Tim Daly and Mykelti Williamson as Kimble and Gerard respectively. Cast was okay, but I didn't think the series had the writing it needed. It lasted one season. The last episode ended on a cliffhanger, never to be resolved.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 30, 2025
They filmed several episodes in Tacoma WA and used the building I worked in for several scenes. Got to see many of the actors but only chatted with several co-stars and stand-ins. It was interesting to watch them. A hell of a lot of standing around.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2025 11:13 AM (y3bZw)
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Worse than setting up a love nest next to your office to bang employees?
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025 11:02 AM (KDPiq)
Worse than growing a unabomber beard and hoping no one will notice?
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 30, 2025 11:10 AM (3U2FH)
There has been a growing respect for the "unibomber beard" in the last few years.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 30, 2025 11:15 AM (g8Ew8)
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I’m currently reading a two volume work on Van Gogh written by three authors , Walter, Metzger and Taschen.
You can make it two volumes because Van Gogh wrote about 800 letters to his brother Theo so there was a lot of first hand info on Vincent.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025 11:15 AM (KDPiq)
I think William Goldman once said that your first day on a movie set is exciting, and the second day is a bore because it registers on you just how much time you spend waiting.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 30, 2025 11:17 AM (q3u5l)
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I’m currently reading a two volume work on Van Gogh written by three authors , Walter, Metzger and Taschen.
You can make it two volumes because Van Gogh wrote about 800 letters to his brother Theo so there was a lot of first hand info on Vincent.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025 11:15 AM (KDPiq)
He wasn't a pleasant person.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 30, 2025 11:18 AM (g8Ew8)
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I am reading "The Wind in the Willows" because of last week's recommendation.
Very charming.
Posted by: no one at November 30, 2025 11:21 AM (GLn15)
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When are they going to learn that Trump is a counter puncher?
White House Debuts “Media Offender of the Week” Website To Target “Fake News”
https://is.gd/bwr1vU
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 30, 2025 11:24 AM (L/fGl)
I think William Goldman once said that your first day on a movie set is exciting, and the second day is a bore because it registers on you just how much time you spend waiting.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 30, 2025 11:17 AM (q3u5l)
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I believe it. They did all the filming on the ground floor, making it look like a bank. My office was on the second floor. We couldn't use the elevators so had to take the stairs. I found several extras hiding in the stairwell while they shot a few scenes. Some very pretty extras too. They were all very nice to us as we tried to stay out of their way. It was all very cool and professional.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2025 11:26 AM (y3bZw)
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Highly recommended for Bond fans. I need to buy a copy for my shelf.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 09:17 AM (wzUl9)
Interesting, thanks. If he's even remotely replicated Fleming's style he'll have accomplished what no one else has.
Posted by: Ordinary American at November 30, 2025 11:26 AM (VnsnO)
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If you ask the idiots what actions Trump has taken as a dictator they they wouldn’t have an answer except some retarded nonsensical reply.
Posted by: the way I see it
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"He's destroying the Historic East Wing!"
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 30, 2025 11:26 AM (XeU6L)
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Hey Horde! Did I tell everyone about my new part-time gig shelving books at the local library? Tough gig. Difficult to reach the shelves. They asked me to help running the vacuum cleaner too...
ABBY PHILLIP: 53% say that process for deporting people has been mostly unfair!
SCOTT JENNINGS: I agree, it’s unfair that it takes so LONG.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 30, 2025 11:28 AM (L/fGl)
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Continuing this week with 'Six Frigates'. The best, most interesting non-fiction that I have read in years.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 30, 2025 11:28 AM (XeU6L)
233MP4, what does your home library look like?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 30, 2025 11:15 AM (kpS4V)
I sent a pic of it in years ago. Perhaps I should do it again.
In the house proper, I have two full-length sets of shelves (dining room and parlor), each divided into sections - true crime, history, religion, American history, ephemera, &c.
In the attic, where I write and work, are where I keep all my Hollywood books and magazines.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 30, 2025 11:29 AM (ufSfZ)
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Hey Horde! Did I tell everyone about my new part-time gig shelving books at the local library? Tough gig. Difficult to reach the shelves. They asked me to help running the vacuum cleaner too...
Posted by: TRex - dewey decimal dino at November 30, 2025 11:26 AM (IQ6Gq)
Cool!
I've been offered a P/T job at a telescope factory. That is something I'll look into.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2025 11:29 AM (y3bZw)
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He wasn't a pleasant person.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 30, 2025 11:18 AM (g8Ew
He actually was very well liked by a number of fellow artists. He was probably on the spectrum and a genius beyond his painting. He spoke five languages and spent time translating the Bible into various languages. He was just unintentionally weird though he had enough self awareness to realize it and felt bad about it.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025 11:29 AM (KDPiq)
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Oh, I forgot - also an entire Third Reich section.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 30, 2025 11:30 AM (ufSfZ)
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I started to try to read Alfred Korzybski's seminal work, Manhood of Humanity but it is a work on philosophy, not what you might otherwise think from the title.
To be serious, Korzybski was famed at one time to have a view of formal logic as applied to human language, but I have yet to find any use of what is in this book
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 11:31 AM (rbvCR)
238Cool!
I've been offered a P/T job at a telescope factory. That is something I'll look into.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2025
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Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 11:31 AM (wzUl9)
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Cool!
I've been offered a P/T job at a telescope factory. That is something I'll look into.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2025
I saw that coming from a million miles away.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025 11:32 AM (KDPiq)
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The Sparks of the Divine are going out all across America.
BREAKING: Many Somalis are getting fed up with the West, saying they will leave and go home.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 30, 2025 11:32 AM (L/fGl)
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Well, it's been a very dispiriting couple of days. I'd prefer to go back to bed and not wake up again, but that's not going to happen. I do have to go to the dairy at some point, so perhaps I should just do it now.
I might expand on it later, but it's really a knife to the heart to come face to face with the realization that you are most definitely not liked. At all.
Although, first I might just take pics of my home library for a future thread.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 30, 2025 11:33 AM (ufSfZ)
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BREAKING: Many Somalis are getting fed up with the West, saying they will leave and go home.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 30, 2025 11:32 AM (L/fGl)
I would sweeten the pot and offer them 10,000 to self deport.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025 11:35 AM (KDPiq)
243Interesting, thanks. If he's even remotely replicated Fleming's style he'll have accomplished what no one else has.
Posted by: Ordinary American at November 30, 2025
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In the chapter where Bond pilots the Maserati race car, there are several points where he gives us Bond's short mental commands to himself, a la the moments in Moonraker, Doctor No, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, and others. It increases tension and puts us right there with Bond.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 11:36 AM (wzUl9)
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I might expand on it later, but it's really a knife to the heart to come face to face with the realization that you are most definitely not liked. At all.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression)
That can't be. We love you. You're a perfectly charming gentleman.
Posted by: Tuna at November 30, 2025 11:36 AM (lJ0H4)
245I've been offered a P/T job at a telescope factory. That is something I'll look into.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2025
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I saw that coming from a million miles away.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025
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Sounds like a real grind
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 11:37 AM (wzUl9)
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Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 11:36 AM (wzUl9)
That was a scene device Ritchie used in his Sherlock Holmes movie.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 30, 2025 11:37 AM (KDPiq)
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I've been offered a P/T job at a telescope factory. That is something I'll look into.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2025 11:29 AM
Keep your head up and looking at the stars
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 11:38 AM (Ia/+0)
That can't be. We love you. You're a perfectly charming gentleman.
Posted by: Tuna at November 30, 2025 11:36 AM (lJ0H4)
You're very kind. As I said, I may expand on it sometime.
Off to the dairy.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 30, 2025 11:40 AM (ufSfZ)
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"I've been offered a p/t job at a telescope factory."
What is the scope of your duties?
Posted by: PabloD at November 30, 2025 11:40 AM (GALGA)
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239 Cool!
I've been offered a P/T job at a telescope factory. That is something I'll look into.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 30, 2025
I saw that coming from a million miles away.
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Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 30, 2025 11:40 AM (XeU6L)
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One more item about Trigger Mortis: In his afterword, Horowitz tells us that approx. 500 words in Chapter Two, a scene with Bond, M, and Bill Tanner, came directly from an episode treatment Fleming had written for a proposed TV series before the first Bond film was made.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 11:41 AM (wzUl9)
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Thanks for the TRex in the library Perfessor...in case the shenanigans resume, that'll be the perfect space for their 39 foot plastic friend...
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Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 30, 2025 11:40 AM (XeU6L)
Here’s to you old Copernicus, a nation turs its lonely eyes to you, woo woo woo.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 11:44 AM (i+bC1)
Posted by: Ptolemy at November 30, 2025 11:48 AM (0RiMX)
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'Bout time I shuffled off to handle some chores. Thanks to all for a strong Book Thread entry!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 11:50 AM (wzUl9)
256230 Hey Horde! Did I tell everyone about my new part-time gig shelving books at the local library? Tough gig. Difficult to reach the shelves. They asked me to help running the vacuum cleaner too...
Posted by: TRex - dewey decimal dino at November 30, 2025 11:26 AM (IQ6Gq)
Oh boo hoo...
Posted by: Michelle Fields at November 30, 2025 11:50 AM (PiwSw)
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And it's time to pretend I'm doing something constructive here at Casa Some Guy.
Perfessor, thanks for the thread.
Have a good one, gang.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 30, 2025 11:51 AM (q3u5l)
Amazon has new paperback printings of Buckaroo Bonzai, and the sequel for about $16 a piece.
If you're looking for them, there they are.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 30, 2025 11:52 AM (iJfKG)
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Remember to focus on your work
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 11:31 AM
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Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 30, 2025 11:40 AM
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Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 30, 2025 11:54 AM (XeU6L)
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Why is it that the book I'm looking for is always on the bottom of the library shelf? I find myself practically on my hands and knees, squinting at titles.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 30, 2025 11:58 AM (XeU6L)
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 12:05 PM (Ia/+0)
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260 Why is it that the book I'm looking for is always on the bottom of the library shelf? I find myself practically on my hands and knees, squinting at titles.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 30, 2025 11:58 AM (XeU6L)
Mirror on a stick.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 12:05 PM (i+bC1)
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I finished A Civil War Soldier's Tramp by Mahon Douglass, a private printing of the collected letters and diary entries of two brothers from Pomeroy, (New Boston township) Mercer county Illinois for the Union army. The older brother, Willian Sheriff was killed September 1862 at Medon Station TN, and his younger brother John volunteered the same month and was under Grant's Grand Army of the West until discharge at the end of the war.
John's Diary and letters cover moving down to invest Vicksburg, being wounded and then taken prisoner and released when his hospital was overrun and then recaptured at Raymond MS, the march on Atlanta, to the Sea under Gen Sherman, and onto the Carolinas, and the final victory parade in DC
The author put in quite a bit of extra explanation to give context to the diary entries and letters; the emphasis John puts on the camp meetings and church is quite different than what the formal histories focus on. Lots of camp work, clearing roads for wagons, waiting for boats and getting rained on, as well.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 12:05 PM (rbvCR)
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Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 12:05 PM (rbvCR)
Co. Aytch by Samuel Watkins is a pretty good account from the other side.
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 12:17 PM (i+bC1)
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I was very impressed by Stacey Abrams's work as The Probe in "The Voyage Home." It was typecasting, sure, but she really sold the part of an inarticulate shapeless mass, somehow managing to look hefty even when just hanging there in space, like some eldritch Mother Of Whales. Not many could've pulled that off. Bravissima!
Posted by: SciVo at November 30, 2025 01:22 PM (Sy6m/)
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A book I have on the making of "Mission: Impossible" the series said that on a good day, you'll have four minutes of usable film. That's before editing.
Posted by: Weak Geek at November 30, 2025 01:39 PM (p/isN)
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Folks, thanks for the recommendation on the Ron Chernow biography on Grant. I downloaded that, plus his other bios on Rockefeller, Hamilton and Washington.
Posted by: Joemarine at November 30, 2025 02:36 PM (y171U)
269Last week I mentioned that I had not read The Wind in the Willows by Kenneth Grahame, nor had I seen the movie Alien directed by Ridley Scott. Both oversights have been corrected.
i didn't realize alien was the film adaptation of the wind in the willow. learn something new every day!
Posted by: anachronda at November 30, 2025 04:36 PM (edU/H)
Probably, yes. You get that number by adding together desktop Linux, ChromeOS (which is Linux) and "Unknown" numbers.
Globally Linux numbers are about 50% higher, and looking at US government website stats, 25% of requests come from some flavour of Linux (including Android).
And Google has already been working to merge ChromeOS with Android. So this would bring a thoroughly-tested Linux variant with a huge collection of existing applications to the desktop, though half of those apps are Kairosoft games.
And the new Steam Cube is due to launch soon, bringing SteamOS - again, a flavour of Linux - to the desktop.
With Microsoft working tirelessly to destroy Windows, these consumer-oriented Linux versions may bring welcome relief.
Well, not in Australia, where it is significantly more expensive and also completely out of stock everywhere.
With SSD prices on the rise this may be a good choice for people looking to build a high-capacity NAS.
Speaking of SSD prices, an interesting thing is happening there. The shortage is affecting NAND flash generally. All versions, from high-reliability enterprise chips to the cheap stuff targeted at microSD cards.
Meanwhile PCIe 5 controller chips for consumer SSDs are coming down in price, meaning that the price gap between PCIe 4 and PCIe 5 drives is fast disappearing. At the start of the year it cost around 100% more for a PCIe 5 drive; now it's closer to 30%.
Someone tell Petronius the Arbiter that I've found the Door into Summer.
Now I just need to find the Door Back into Pleasant Spring Weather.
Updated my Minecraft modpack. It's still on 1.20.1 because some key mods aren't available on anything later - Minecraft doesn't care at all about mod compatibility between versions - but I found a single mod (Vanilla Backports) that bundles together backports of all six feature releases since then.
Dye Depot and Dye the World - which add 16 more colours to vanilla Minecraft and to 19 other mods respectively - have both been updated. And Create: Steam and Rails has a beta version with Create 6.0 compatibility. I took Create out of the modpack entirely because the update to Create 6.0 broke compatibility with a lot of other mods, and if I wanted Steam and Rails and included Create 5.0, that broke still more things. Looks like the great rift is finally healing.
And after a whole bunch of tweaks and changes and updates, it just worked. That never happens.
Tanya Interlude
Nine years after season one and seven years after the movie, anime's sweetheart is back. Tanya the Misunderstood will return for its second season next year. The original cast though not the director are also returning.
(For those who haven't seen it, The Saga of Tanya the Evil is set in an alternate universe where World War I didn't happen but the October Revolution in Russia - or something very much like it - did. Now it's the 1920s and the Great War has lit off with everyone fighting everyone else, and Tanya really does not like commies.)
Posted by: Pixy Misa at November 30, 2025 04:02 AM (BLOW1)
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People are more likely to give up their seats to pregnant women on public transport when Batman is present. (Nature)
He's not going to hurt you. He's just going to judge you.
I expected that recent photo of the Pope on a plane with a baseball bat.
Posted by: m at November 30, 2025 04:05 AM (RuTUS)
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"Now I just need to find the Door Back into Pleasant Spring Weather."
I feel ya ... from the other hemisphere
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 30, 2025 04:05 AM (Cjt/F)
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>>>I've found the Door into Summer.
Now I just need to find the Door Back into Pleasant Spring Weather
This past summer (from the other hemisphere) nearly wiped me out.
Posted by: m at November 30, 2025 04:12 AM (RuTUS)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 30, 2025 04:12 AM (+J/Au)
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The silver spot price has been frozen at $56.67 per oz all weekend. One oz of silver is $1.40 of pre-1965 dimes, quarters, and half dollars. In other words 2 each 1964 Kennedy half dollars, and 4 mercury dimes, is one oz of silver.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at November 30, 2025 04:12 AM (Da7Vv)
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well. decision time ... coffee & breakfast, or back to bed for another Z or two?
midwestchick's Sunday Meme Drop hasn't, yet ...
decisions, decisions ...
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 30, 2025 04:15 AM (Cjt/F)
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huh, thanks A O, that's a useful rule-of-thumb to remember
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 30, 2025 04:17 AM (Cjt/F)
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“Snowing lightly”. It can snow “heavily” too but, you never hear someone say it is snowing “mediumly”.
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As I’ e oft-repeated, Tech thread participation must consistently increase at all lvels amongst all members of the the horde, make those numbers people.
Keep in mind, shouldn’t need to be reminded, enhanced penalties begin 1 Dec. We’re all adults here, I shouldn’t have to lecture you.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 30, 2025 04:18 AM (Pq0CS)
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And yes, you can substitute a silver dollar for 2 silver half dollars, or 4 silver quarters, or ten silver dimes (pre-1965 versions of those coins are all 90% silver). At the current spot price a silver dime has just over $4.00 worth of silver in it.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at November 30, 2025 04:19 AM (Da7Vv)
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"“Snowing lightly”. It can snow “heavily” too but, you never hear someone say it is snowing “mediumly”. "
true dat. for that condition I simply use the term "snowing" in my calendar notes.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 30, 2025 04:23 AM (Cjt/F)
Posted by: m at November 30, 2025 04:23 AM (RuTUS)
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No, a US silver dollar is 0.77 troy ounces. Subsidiary coinage - dimes, quarters, halves - are 0.723 troy per $1 face value. An example of “seignorage”. The modern US Eagle series are one ounce .999 fine silver.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 30, 2025 04:26 AM (HhTfM)
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13 As I’ e oft-repeated, Tech thread participation must consistently increase at all lvels amongst all members of the the horde, make those numbers people.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 30, 2025 04:18 AM (Pq0CS)
11 well. decision time ... coffee & breakfast, or back to bed for another Z or two?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 30, 2025 04:15 AM (Cjt/F)
Looks like there's a vote for you to stay.
Posted by: m at November 30, 2025 04:27 AM (RuTUS)
19 Snowfall rates can be light, moderate, or heavy. I was intrigued and got to looking at NWS definitions. There is no standard really, some offices will define in terms of rate. Visibility correlates with snow rate somewhat, with the solid to liquid ratio coming in and all that.
A rate of 1" per hour would be "heavy snow". Visibility would be low. Now over time, 6" in 12 hours is considered a heavy snowfall, as well as 8" in 24 hours.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 30, 2025 04:35 AM (w6EFb)
a silver dime has just over $4.00 worth of silver
a silver quarter just over $10.00
a silver half dollar has $20.00
a silver dollar has just over $40.00 worth of silver in it.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at November 30, 2025 04:39 AM (Da7Vv)
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21 Good morning. Only the fluffy die young. The nuggets like it that way.
Posted by: Fluffy Nuggets, Jr. at November 30, 2025 04:37 AM (zO/xW)
Do the fluffy get a nice white dress and a party on their confirmation?
Posted by: m at November 30, 2025 04:39 AM (RuTUS)
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I always disliked that song, "Only the good die young" . He's trying to get her in the sack, of course. Some good people die young and some don't.
Posted by: FenelonSpike at November 30, 2025 04:47 AM (ZeH0U)
26No, a US silver dollar is 0.77 troy ounces. Subsidiary coinage - dimes, quarters, halves - are 0.723 troy per $1 face value. An example of “seignorage”. The modern US Eagle series are one ounce .999 fine silver.
The values I listed are for coins in average worn circulated condition. Not in the un-circulated versions you listed - which are worth more.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at November 30, 2025 04:48 AM (Da7Vv)
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They need to re-introduce $20 and $50 coins. Would make looking under the couch worth it again. $500 and $1000 notes too.
I’m always amused when even recently some democrat twat says “we need to get rid of high denomination bills”. There are no high denomination bills. A hundred dollar bill will get totally vaporized at the grocery in just a few seconds.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 30, 2025 04:50 AM (HhTfM)
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Christian devotional on living well : Genesis 5:21-24
https://tinyurl.com/4mmx9h4c
Posted by: FenelonSpike at November 30, 2025 04:51 AM (ZeH0U)
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Couple from Ohio adopts all four siblings so they can stay together:
https://tinyurl.com/3tk9w2un
Posted by: FenelonSpike at November 30, 2025 04:53 AM (ZeH0U)
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The values I listed are for coins in average worn circulated condition. Not in the un-circulated versions you listed - which are worth more.
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No, those are the numbers for determining the “melt” value of junk silver coinage that has no numismatic value. A hundred dollars in dimes, quarters, or halves is 72 ounces troy. A hundred silver dollars is 77 ounces troy.
This adds up.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 30, 2025 04:54 AM (HhTfM)
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A Canadian $5 Canadian dollar Maple Leaf is one oz of .9999 fine silver.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at November 30, 2025 04:54 AM (Da7Vv)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 30, 2025 04:55 AM (mOv6P)
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I liked the “face bags” of quarters. A big ass bag of quarters. Silver is heavy! And the “kishhhh” of silver coinage as it pours out is a beautiful sound, the modern slugs don’t do that. Very distinctive.
When silver was $4 an ounce nobody wanted it. You make money on the buy (no matter what it is)
Posted by: Common Tater at November 30, 2025 04:58 AM (HhTfM)
34No, those are the numbers for determining the “melt” value of junk silver coinage that has no numismatic value. A hundred dollars in dimes, quarters, or halves is 72 ounces troy. A hundred silver dollars is 77 ounces troy.
Sigh, I love pedants who don't know what they are talking about. Average circulated silver coins are considered to have .715 troy oz per $100 face. Your values are for UNCIRCULATED COINS IN PRISTINE CONDITION. Nobody sells those for their silver value.
Worn circulated coins have clearly lost some of their silver when they get worn. The general agreement is to rate worn circulated coins at .715 troy oz per $100 face. If you think a worn silver dollar still has .77 troy oz, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I would like to sell to you.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at November 30, 2025 05:07 AM (Da7Vv)
Posted by: fluffy at November 30, 2025 05:16 AM (AN2gy)
37
32 Belated BOING!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 30, 2025 04:55 AM (mOv6P)
Biden's Dog, the top story at Hacker News (ycombinator) is:
1.
Show HN: Boing (greg.technology)
339 points by gregsadetsky 6 hours ago | hide | 65 comments
https://news.ycombinator.com
Posted by: m at November 30, 2025 05:18 AM (RuTUS)
38
One topic around the Thanksgiving table was the end of the penny. We were all guessing their are enough pennies stored away in old coffee cans, jars, etc in peoples closets to keep the pennies around a long time, or at least until we go digital. I have some gold coins and they are just stored somewhere in the house. But I probably won't get anywhere near the spot price for an American Eagle gold coin around here. I once was offered about half of the spot price, locally.
Posted by: Colin at November 30, 2025 05:19 AM (wlQdF)
39
>>> midwestchick's Sunday Meme Drop hasn't, yet ...
Sunday, too? I'll be there.
Posted by: fluffy at November 30, 2025 05:20 AM (AN2gy)
40
You’re talking about coins known in the trade as “slicks”. Coinage circulated heavily, that’s true. Those coins are so worn as to be almost unrecognizable.
Unscrupulous types sell slicks, and the key here, they don’t sell them at .715 either, that’s part of the scam.
A reputable dealer of course sells worn coins, they all are, but they don’t sell slicks. Good try though!
Posted by: Common Tater at November 30, 2025 05:21 AM (wO3Gh)
Posted by: AltonJackson at November 30, 2025 05:24 AM (tljrc)
43
The idea that you cannot afford something and claim you're boycotting it is the biggest copium dose I've seen consumed in a good while.
That aside, consumer PCs are just a tiny slice of the DRAM pie. A million PC gamers foregoing any new RAM purchases for a few months is not going to make a notable shift.
Posted by: Epobirs at November 30, 2025 05:25 AM (/0z9K)
44 I've boinged 3 times
the world has boinged 15,022 times
Posted by: m at November 30, 2025 05:25 AM (RuTUS)
45
The only reason I brought it up was to point out the difference between a “dollar” in subsidiary coins versus an actual dollar. Then you want to jump my shit. Guess who the pedant is here? It ain’t me, Gus.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 30, 2025 05:27 AM (wO3Gh)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 30, 2025 05:28 AM (Cjt/F)
47
Morning everyone. Finished up the ONT and caught up with Pixy.
Glad to be here and see everyone.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 05:31 AM (owKS5)
48
10 The silver spot price has been frozen at $56.67 per oz all weekend. One oz of silver is $1.40 of pre-1965 dimes, quarters, and half dollars. In other words 2 each 1964 Kennedy half dollars, and 4 mercury dimes, is one oz of silver.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump
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Think when the interest rates go down and the overall markets pick up that silver and gold will go back to half what it is now.?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 05:34 AM (owKS5)
49
Good morning, Braenyard and all. Blessed Advent to those that celebrate it!
Posted by: FenelonSpike at November 30, 2025 05:35 AM (GLmO1)
50
The modern US Eagle series are one ounce .999 fine silver.
Posted by: Common Tater
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Pretty sure it's one ounce. At least, the gold one's are.
There's a little premium for Krugerrands and a cut on the Pandas.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 05:38 AM (owKS5)
51
1. Show HN: Boing (greg.technology)
339 points by gregsadetsky 6 hours ago
Posted by: m at November 30, 2025 05:18 AM (RuTUS)
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Thanks. The BOING URL is now a permanent resident of my comment signature. Please, everyone visit and knock yourselves out!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 30, 2025 05:43 AM (Cjt/F)
54
42
I'm still waiting for the Linux phone
Posted by: AltonJackson
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Pixy, some time ago, said that Pine Phone came out with a very good $199 dollar phone. Problem was they wanted about $2K for it.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 05:43 AM (owKS5)
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51 The BOING URL is now a permanent resident of my comment signature. Please, everyone visit and knock yourselves out!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 30, 2025 05:39 AM (mOv6P)
YAY! The developed has been editing it in real time in response to comments:
https://news.ycombinator.com/
item?id=46093473
Posted by: m at November 30, 2025 05:43 AM (RuTUS)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 05:45 AM (owKS5)
59
Evening and morning to the weary Sunday toilers and the coffee-sipping early risers across the AoSHQ Empire!
The Evil Black Kitten of War and Pestilence woke me this morning by bounding across the bed and across me. It wasn't that he was starving; he still had a little dry food. He just wants to be difficult. Dagny, as usual, is silent and playing her waiting game.
Yesterday and last night we went out to buy Linda the lipsticks she wanted for her birthday. Both were on sale at Ulta -- but $38 for two tubes of red stuff? The effect when she wears it is nice, I'll say that for it, but . . . !
So. Whassup?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 05:46 AM (wzUl9)
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57 by the time I hit post, the world will have boinged 44000 times, or more!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 30, 2025 05:44 AM (Cjt/F)
from the developer, greg (in the HN comments):
jonplackett 1 hour ago | prev | next [–]
Oh it needs a total boings by everyone counter!
gregsadetsky 27 minutes ago | parent | next [–]
alright, I implemented a world boing counter :-) thanks for the great idea
Posted by: m at November 30, 2025 05:47 AM (RuTUS)
61
Pixy, thanks for the nice Heinlein reference to wake up to this morning. I paraphrased that novel's commentary on the relations between humans and cats . . .
"When he was a kitten, all fluff and buzzes, Pete had formed a simple philosophy. I was in charge of quarters, rations, and weather; he was in charge of everything else."
. . . as my big red tabby Arizona's epitaph in 1999.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 05:50 AM (wzUl9)
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What is this Boing! thing all about? A computer variation on "Give me one ping only, please"?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 05:51 AM (wzUl9)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 30, 2025 05:53 AM (Cjt/F)
64
and it would appear that everyone is off boinging!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 30, 2025 05:57 AM (Cjt/F)
65
Still listening to David Suchet reading the Gospel of Matthew. We are on Chapter 17. I find English pronunciation of words interesting as in the word shone pronounced as rhyming with " John".
Posted by: FenelonSpike at November 30, 2025 05:59 AM (ix8EF)
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 06:02 AM (Ia/+0)
67
Yesterday, also, I stopped off at the Boot Barn and Cavender's in my neighborhood to look at cowboy boots. I have a nice pair of black cherry Dan Post boots which are being resoled -- I wore them a lot this first summer of retirement; they were not that hot -- and I'd like a second pair. It appears the styles have moved from the round toe I prefer to these wide square things that look like duck feet. The Dan Posts they had were still round toe, and so were another brand called Cody James. I tried on a black pair and found the CJs to be comfortable right away.
We have a Tecovas store in BR, about ninety minutes' drive away, and their sale prices are not that much higher than those at Boot Barn. It might be interesting to see if their products are as good as Sean Hannity says.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 06:02 AM (wzUl9)
I'm at an undisclosed location that will remain so. Nothing nefarious is underway, this is a hunting location, I do not intend it be ruined like the previous one was by being publicized. The second neat thing that's also remaining anonymous is the 2x4 diner we just ate at. Tey don't realize what they have for delicious food, hot and properly proportioned (as in huge). The sausage with biscuits and gravy being one, don't know that I've ever had better. May be worth just saying the hell with hunting, let's stay here and gorge for a bit. They DO have a great local rep but not widespread. Perhaps it would be worthwhile tracking them to see if expansion happens and if the quality remains good.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at November 30, 2025 06:02 AM (vFbHf)
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When you say “Garage” in the posh Brit way, it almost puts you in a higher tax bracket
Posted by: Common Tater at November 30, 2025 06:03 AM (eEPa7)
Posted by: m at November 30, 2025 06:03 AM (RuTUS)
71G'Day everyone
Took NyQil at 7pm, bed at 8
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025
***
Morning, Mr. Skip. I didn't nap yesterday, so I thought I'd sleep longer this morning. Ha. I have a certain black cat who thinks "boinging" across me at four am is highly entertaining.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 06:04 AM (wzUl9)
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Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at November 30, 2025 06:02 AM (vFbHf)
Have a wonderful day!
Posted by: FenelonSpike at November 30, 2025 06:04 AM (ix8EF)
73
David Suchet reading the Gospel. Maybe I didn't listen long enough but his delivery is flat.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 06:04 AM (owKS5)
74
Posted by: Common Tater at November 30, 2025 06:03 AM (eEPa7)
LOL
Posted by: FenelonSpike at November 30, 2025 06:06 AM (ix8EF)
75
>>>Perhaps it would be worthwhile tracking them to see if expansion happens and if the quality remains good.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA
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Good hunting.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 06:06 AM (owKS5)
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Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 06:04 AM (owKS5)
No, not at all. Maybe it depends on the particular chapter.
Posted by: FenelonSpike at November 30, 2025 06:07 AM (ix8EF)
77 i've boinged 23 times
the world has boinged 83,868 times
https://boing.greg.technology
Posted by: m at November 30, 2025 06:07 AM (RuTUS)
78
42
I'm still waiting for the Linux phone
Posted by: AltonJackson at November 30, 2025 05:24 AM (tljrc)
Wait no more.
The Pine Phone:
https://pine64.org/devices/pinephone/
There’s also Fairphone out of the Netherlands:
https://www.fairphone.com/
There are a few Linux phone OS, too.
PureOS and Ubuntu Touch OS.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 30, 2025 06:08 AM (6ydKt)
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British man arrested for posting a photo of himself shooting a gun... while in the US.
https://youtu.be/uWMRag4PaiQ
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 30, 2025 06:09 AM (ExV1e)
80
I like the Sacagawea coins.
I found a box of Canadian coins my grandmother collected from working at a Connecticut bank in the 50’s. A couple of Buffalo nickels, too.
Best college QB is Noah Fifita at Arizona.
Posted by: Accomack at November 30, 2025 06:09 AM (IG7T0)
Posted by: fluffy at November 30, 2025 06:11 AM (AN2gy)
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Posted by: FenelonSpike at November 30, 2025 06:04 AM (ix8EF)
Oh, wow. Yesterday I sounded Dutch . Today my misspelled handle sounds like I put some alcohol in my coffee.. 😉 I better correct that .
Posted by: FenelonSpike at November 30, 2025 06:12 AM (looXz)
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Good morning! Wolfus, I have a pair of Tecovas and they're worth every penny. A word of advice. Take a pair of socks that you're going to wear them with to try them on and know that initially, they're pretty snug.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 30, 2025 06:12 AM (3Ope8)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 30, 2025 06:14 AM (looXz)
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I have four pairs of custom cowboy boots, 3 Lucchese and one Paul Bond. They all have riding heels and snip toes because men’s dress shoes look like clown shoes.
Posted by: Accomack at November 30, 2025 06:15 AM (IG7T0)
87
Lots to do today
Shopping, F-1 race, going over to my aunt for Christmas craft making
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 06:15 AM (Ia/+0)
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There are a few Linux phone OS, too.
PureOS and Ubuntu Touch OS.
Posted by: SpeakingOf
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Cart says $199 that's c h e a p.
Have you done business with them?
Do you use this phone?
Tell us more.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 06:16 AM (owKS5)
89
I have actually handled and used $500 and $1000 dollar bills. (yes, I am old, so what). But, as soon as they reissued those bills, there would be a gigantic crash and make them useless.
Posted by: clarence at November 30, 2025 06:19 AM (GE9Fw)
90
Yeah a RAM boycott won’t work.
Most people who DIY their PCs build and forget it for five or more years.
Only the most die hard gamers and PC enthusiasts update their systems every year or so, or add or update components regularly.
So at most there’s a few million people who would care enough to boycott and most of them are already doing that by turning their noses up at these prices.
The people being hurt right now are the first-time system builders, think Dad & Son trying to do a project, and small businesses who need to update their kit.
They’re getting hammered along with anybody on the five or seven year cycle who need to update their PC built years ago.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 30, 2025 06:21 AM (6ydKt)
91Wolfus, I have a pair of Tecovas and they're worth every penny. A word of advice. Take a pair of socks that you're going to wear them with to try them on and know that initially, they're pretty snug.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 30, 2025
***
As long as they don't chafe me anywhere. I don't believe in this "They'll break in" stuff. If it's not comfortable immediately, I'm not going for it. I tried on a pair of Ariat brand boots at Cavender's, and while they basically fit fine, one long seam was rubbing against my ankle. Don't want that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 06:21 AM (wzUl9)
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Radar says the rain is still ninety miles away, and it's cool and fresh out there. Time to change, stretch, and work out!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 06:22 AM (wzUl9)
ISWYDT.
Posted by: Bitblt at November 30, 2025 06:25 AM (11pZm)
; )
Posted by: m at November 30, 2025 06:26 AM (RuTUS)
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Cart says $199 that's c h e a p.
Have you done business with them?
Do you use this phone?
Tell us more.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 06:16 AM (owKS5)
Nope.
Still rocking an eight year old iPhone here.
I watch a lot of tech reviews so I’ve heard the names and seen the products on YouTube a few times over the years.
I’m not adventurous enough to risk a Linux phone yet.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 30, 2025 06:29 AM (6ydKt)
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Reading there literature it appears that Pine Phone is 'capable of' running Linux or this or that but their presentation doesn't inspire confidence that it could be take out of the box and used as a phone.
It appears to be a project.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 06:30 AM (owKS5)
97
@62/Wolfus: { What is this Boing! thing all about? A computer variation on "Give me one ping only, please"? }
https://youtu.be/4aTagDSnclk?t=13
Don't let Stirling or Dagny watch this video, they might get ideas!
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at November 30, 2025 06:32 AM (O7YUW)
Posted by: m at November 30, 2025 06:34 AM (RuTUS)
99
From what I recall the main reason the U.S. won’t go higher denomination than $100 is to prevent the North Koreans from printing out billions of counterfeit $1000 dollar bills and destroying the currency.
And also to prevent drug dealers and money launderers from ring able to transport multiple millions of dollars in a suitcase.
As it stands you can fit about $1 million in Ben Franklins in a standard briefcase as is.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 30, 2025 06:39 AM (6ydKt)
Posted by: m at November 30, 2025 06:39 AM (RuTUS)
101As long as they don't chafe me anywhere. I don't believe in this "They'll break in" stuff.
All I'm suggesting is that you test fit a pair using the socks you're going to wear them with and you'll likely find yourself fitting in a 1/2 size larger than a dress shoe.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 30, 2025 06:39 AM (3Ope8)
Thank you for your attention to this matter, autocucumber.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 30, 2025 06:40 AM (6ydKt)
105
A boycott on memory won't work (tips hat to SpeakingOf) but what the manufacturers and sellers will manage to do is instill a "Let's just make do with what we have" mindset in their customers.
And that's going to be difficult to shake off once the AI bubble pops and the Enterprise customers stop buying up all the supply.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at November 30, 2025 06:42 AM (O7YUW)
I've got a Pinephone. It was disappointing. It wasn't even that good at making phone call. That was about 3 years ago.
Posted by: fd at November 30, 2025 06:48 AM (vFG9F)
109
Midwest Chick's Sunday meme drop - https://tinyurl.com/4s4r8wby+
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 30, 2025 06:50 AM (ExV1e)
110 As long as they don't chafe me anywhere. I don't believe in this "They'll break in" stuff.
Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 06:21 AM
All I'm suggesting is that you test fit a pair using the socks you're going to wear them with and you'll likely find yourself fitting in a 1/2 size larger than a dress shoe.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 30, 2025 06:39 AM
also, shop for your boots in the late afternoon / early evening, when your feet are at their largest for the day
they will break in, you just have to wear them daily
Posted by: AltonJackson at November 30, 2025 06:50 AM (tljrc)
It had some problems then.
It’s been four years so maybe they’ve gotten the kinks out by now?
And, apparently, you can put any OS you want on it. So it is upgradable that way if the specs can handle the new OS.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 30, 2025 06:50 AM (6ydKt)
112
"Another day, another opportunity!
Posted by: Eromero"
Savor or squander? Every day is a gift.
Posted by: fd at November 30, 2025 06:52 AM (vFG9F)
113
I've got a Pinephone. It was disappointing. It wasn't even that good at making phone call. That was about 3 years ago.
Posted by: fd at November 30, 2025 06:48 AM (vFG9F)
It exists though.
So maybe Linux enthusiasts can get a decent phone one day if Pine does a version 2 or another company puts out a better phone.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 30, 2025 06:52 AM (6ydKt)
Posted by: olddog in mo at November 30, 2025 06:54 AM (bQ4nt)
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I have had to stretch the throats of some of my boots using a youth soccer ball. Anything you can inflate can be used to stretch leather.
Posted by: Accomack at November 30, 2025 06:55 AM (IG7T0)
117
111 LTT did a review years ago on the PinePhone.
https://youtu.be/fCKMxzz9cjs
It had some problems then.
It’s been four years so maybe they’ve gotten the kinks out by now?
And, apparently, you can put any OS you want on it. So it is upgradable that way if the specs can handle the new OS.
Posted by: SpeakingOf
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Disappointing. Their website is spartan and doesn't inspire confidence. I want one that I can take out of the box and use.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 06:59 AM (owKS5)
118
I have had to stretch the throats of some of my boots using a youth soccer ball. Anything you can inflate can be used to stretch leather.
Posted by: Accomack at November 30, 2025 06:55 AM (IG7T0)
Tell me more...
Posted by: Pete Bootyjuice at November 30, 2025 07:00 AM (lLEcp)
119
See Australian PM got married yesterday to a bit older man
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 07:03 AM (Ia/+0)
Posted by: Accomack at November 30, 2025 07:05 AM (IG7T0)
121
Disappointing. Their website is spartan and doesn't inspire confidence. I want one that I can take out of the box and use.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 06:59 AM (owKS5)
There’s a pretty good list here (from 2023) of available Linux phones here:
https://itsfoss.com/linux-phones/
Maybe one will tickle your fancy.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 30, 2025 07:07 AM (6ydKt)
The 0 date is actually used sometimes, generally for Jan. The big epoch were ephemeris time (which evolved to something dubbed Terrestrial Time, or TT) was set equal to GMT/UT on Jan 0, 1900.
And that was using the astronomical convention of starting the day at noon, not midnight, so it was really Jan 0.5, 1900, which was noon, Dec. 31, 1899, which would be really Jan 1, 1900 in Julian date format. :-), but Jan 0 was used for the civil/midnight convention to avoid confusion.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 30, 2025 07:14 AM (w6EFb)
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There’s a pretty good list here (from 2023) of available Linux phones here:
https://itsfoss.com/linux-phones/
ALERT!
It is not limited to a single operating system. You can try it with Manjaro with Plasma mobile OS, - alert Yes it's ready for you to do installation & boot up and download stuff to make it functional.
UBports, Sailfish OS, and others. PinePhone packs in some decent specifications that include a Quad-core processor and 2/3 Gigs of RAM.
It does support a bootable microSD card ALERT! to help you with installation, along with 16/32 GB eMMC storage options.
It would be simple for them to have it ready to go out of the box with instructions and links for tinkering. Just one more little step people.
This is why we don't elect Libertarians.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 07:15 AM (owKS5)
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119 See Australian PM got married yesterday to a bit older man
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 07:03 AM (Ia/+0)
*woman
Posted by: m at November 30, 2025 07:18 AM (RuTUS)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 05:45 AM
+++
Do it while you're alone and wash your hands afterwards.
Posted by: Always sage advice at November 30, 2025 07:21 AM (XQo4F)
130
Yesterday and last night we went out to buy Linda the lipsticks she wanted for her birthday. Both were on sale at Ulta -- but $38 for two tubes of red stuff? The effect when she wears it is nice, I'll say that for it, but . . . !
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
You're lucky it was just lipstick. Cosmetics, even drugstore brands, be expensive.
Posted by: Tuna at November 30, 2025 07:21 AM (lJ0H4)
Posted by: m at November 30, 2025 07:23 AM (RuTUS)
133
And there is much muttering in the Linux world about how all these clueless users will now expect to use Linux. Even Linus Torvald had something to say. I haven't listened to that, because I really don't care what he had to say. It's way beyond what he came up with.
It's like half the crowd gets that people just want to be able to just USE a computer, while half the crowd thinks they need to compile their own kernal. And I was briefly on Reddit. They are like the dewbs that would inform me they were network engineers but wouldn't be able to configure their router. I used to deal with the Ubuntu and Mint forums and they were never snots like this. I did learn that DHH, responsible for Ruby on Rails and Omarchy, is considered a Nazi. Doing my part to make Arch less cool.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 30, 2025 07:24 AM (+mUZM)
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1 day ago Mr Albanese, 62, and Ms Haydon, 47, who began dating in 2019
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Whew, I feel better. It's a man marrying a woman. Great.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 07:25 AM (owKS5)
Posted by: Common Tater at November 30, 2025 07:27 AM (Nh0yW)
136
Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at November 30, 2025 07:27 AM (rAovp)
Your comments are disappearing. It appears that you are banned.
Posted by: m at November 30, 2025 07:27 AM (RuTUS)
137
62 and 47? Eh, that’s a rounding error. If she was 22 that would be squicky. (It’s my understanding a sufficiently large wallet tends to make that sort of arrangement acceptable, somehow)
Posted by: Common Tater at November 30, 2025 07:30 AM (Nh0yW)
138
120 Miklos never sleeps
Posted by: Accomack at November 30, 2025 07:05 AM (IG7T0)
wut
Posted by: m at November 30, 2025 07:31 AM (RuTUS)
4 Dead, 10 Wounded After Mass Shooting At Stockton, California Banquet Hall
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 07:31 AM (owKS5)
140Today is the last day of Thanksgiving Break for me. Tomorrow I get to go back to the same old grind...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 30, 2025 06:47 AM (IBQGV)
Sigh. Same.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 30, 2025 07:34 AM (ExV1e)
141
Mass Shooting in Stockton: 19 Shot, 4 Dead at Children’s Party. Location is banquet hall on Lucille and Thornton.
19 victims. 4 dead as of now, all children. #stockton
Stockton Vice Mayor Jason Lee said, on a social media post, a children's birthday party was the site of a mass shooting, adding that an "ice cream shop should never be a place where families fear for their lives."
However, the Associated Press reported that the shooting occurred at a banquet hall, and that the victims were both children and adults.
The sheriff's office said there are indications that the shooting could have been a targeted attack.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 07:35 AM (owKS5)
142
"I have had to stretch the throats of some of my boots using a youth soccer ball."
*scribbles notes*
Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at November 30, 2025 07:36 AM (XQo4F)
Posted by: fd at November 30, 2025 07:38 AM (vFG9F)
144
Sigh. Same.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 30, 2025 07:34 AM (ExV1e)
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Yeah, but you get to measure the time until retirement in days.
145
>>>Year of Linux on the Desktop? Part One: Does Linux actually account for 11% of desktops even in the US - and a higher number globally? (ZD Net)
Probably, yes. You get that number by adding together desktop Linux, ChromeOS (which is Linux) and "Unknown" numbers.
MATH
Posted by: m at November 30, 2025 07:38 AM (RuTUS)
Because crying out for help always leaves one banned.
Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at November 30, 2025 07:40 AM (h8P6V)
149
Everyone in Stockton is in a gang. It's the Camden of California.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 30, 2025 07:40 AM (A0sqA)
150
145 >>>Year of Linux on the Desktop? Part One: Does Linux actually account for 11% of desktops even in the US - and a higher number globally? (ZD Net)
Probably, yes. You get that number by adding together desktop Linux, ChromeOS (which is Linux) and "Unknown" numbers.
MATH
Posted by: m
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One doesn't think of Android and Chrome as being pure Linux.
Some form of bastard counter agent,ok.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 07:42 AM (owKS5)
151
MPSMD you may just have a banned IP. Are you using a VPN?
Posted by: fd at November 30, 2025 07:42 AM (vFG9F)
152
Cathead biscuits, sausage gravy with bacon and eggs. It's what's for breakfast.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 30, 2025 07:42 AM (3Ope8)
153Yeah, but you get to measure the time until retirement in days.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 30, 2025 07:38 AM (IBQGV)
True, and that number is 8, but each day seems to take longer than they used to. I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 30, 2025 07:43 AM (ExV1e)
154
152 Cathead biscuits, sausage gravy with bacon and eggs. It's what's for breakfast.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 30, 2025 07:42 AM (3Ope
yum
Posted by: m at November 30, 2025 07:44 AM (RuTUS)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 30, 2025 07:45 AM (As86G)
156 Study Finds Tattoo Ink Accumulates In Lymph Nodes
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Another reason
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 07:46 AM (owKS5)
157
Am I an -ist if I have demographic suspicions?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 30, 2025 07:39 AM
"Youth" means black.
Posted by: The More You Know at November 30, 2025 07:46 AM (XQo4F)
158 A boycott on memory won't work (tips hat to SpeakingOf) but what the manufacturers and sellers will manage to do is instill a "Let's just make do with what we have" mindset in their customers.
That is where I am going. The last two mini-pcs I have purchased have been disappointments in that neither is reliable (may be Windows and drivers problem) the last one is interesting because it is experiencing entropy where every day is a question of what will stop working.
I haven't seen a computer out of China worth anything except it works fine for a day or so out of the box and will continue to deteriorate. One of them is now a shop computer - for where I go when the house gets too noisy and I need to get things done.
I would like to upgrade, but I don't want to spend money on what will be junk, or 5x than I should because of the brand.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 30, 2025 07:46 AM (a4flb)
159
Irongrampa...good luck!
Took a pic of a young 8pt buck that didn't make it over a wrought iron fence in the neighborhood yesterday.
Sad. Hung up there for awhile, from the torn up ground under his head.
Posted by: MkY at November 30, 2025 07:47 AM (q6tQZ)
160
Sensitive documents found in burn bags at FBI headquarters will all be made public, FBI Director Kash Patel said in a new interview with The Epoch Times.
“You’re going to see everything we found in that room in one way or another, be it through investigation, public trial, or disclosure to the Congress,” Patel told The Epoch Times’
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 07:48 AM (owKS5)
161"Youth" means black.
Posted by: The More You Know at November 30, 2025 07:46 AM (XQo4F)
Does yoot mean Italian or Jewish, from NY or NJ, travelling in the South?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 30, 2025 07:48 AM (ExV1e)
162The sheriff's office said there are indications that the shooting could have been a targeted attack.
These are supposed to be words of comfort and calm - for Stockton.
The alternative is that you are somewhere doing your own thing, and mass shooting are happening at random where the shooter was previously just chill and then a second later spontaneously and without provocation felt like doing several mag dumps into a crowd
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 30, 2025 07:49 AM (a4flb)
163The last two mini-pcs I have purchased have been disappointments in that neither is reliable (may be Windows and drivers problem) the last one is interesting because it is experiencing entropy where every day is a question of what will stop working.
What brand?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 30, 2025 07:49 AM (ExV1e)
164 I’m alive! Another day, another opportunity!
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025
***
"I woke up still not dead again today.
The Internet said that I had passed away,
If I did I wasn't gone to stay,
I woke up still not dead again today!"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 07:50 AM (wzUl9)
165
160 Sensitive documents found in burn bags at FBI headquarters will all be made public, FBI Director Kash Patel said...
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Nothing will happen.
Posted by: The person who always says that at November 30, 2025 07:50 AM (XQo4F)
166The alternative is that you are somewhere doing your own thing, and mass shooting are happening at random where the shooter was previously just chill and then a second later spontaneously and without provocation felt like doing several mag dumps into a crowd
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 30, 2025 07:49 AM (a4flb)
All part of the big city experience. This sort of thing wouldn't happen if we could ban guns in Indiana.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 30, 2025 07:50 AM (ExV1e)
167
You may have objections to all the other things that come with it, but Mac OS is Unix at its core. You can open a Terminal window and issue all the Unix commands you like. Macs are very easy to convert to Linux as well.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 30, 2025 07:51 AM (ZVgZ4)
Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 30, 2025 07:52 AM (u82oZ)
169
Bought this Beelink, 04/24 - no function problems with the device.
It slows down with two monitors which is disappointing.
That's the only negative to it.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 07:53 AM (owKS5)
170
I'm convinced that Bill Gates knows how old my WIN 10 pc is, and is slowly destroying it thru software updates, pushing me to by a new machine
Posted by: Don Black at November 30, 2025 07:53 AM (AOsQT)
171Bought this Beelink, 04/24 - no function problems with the device.
It slows down with two monitors which is disappointing.
That's the only negative to it.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 07:53 AM (owKS5)
What are the specs?
What are the symptoms of the slow downs? I'm looking at getting the wife a Beelink and she uses two monitors.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 30, 2025 07:55 AM (ExV1e)
Minisforum (bricked on me)
GMKTek EVO 1, which is an abomination to God and Man.
Both using AMD processors and 64GB of memory (I run a lot of things in containers)
The GMKTek has, within a few months a defective fan the the USB4 failed right away, the video is worse than my company Dell laptop (doesn't reliably drive my three 4k monitors) and coin flip if it comes out of hibernation without cold boot.
I want to do 128GB of memory in the AMD AI 395+ Max, but everything comes out of China and is built to last long enough to get past a tester's review.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 30, 2025 07:56 AM (a4flb)
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Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 30, 2025 07:52 AM (u82oZ)
I'm not sure I could strike fear into the hearts of anyone, 😉but I am happy. The pink sunrise under the grey and pink clouds was beautiful this morning . And I always like the Advent season.
You must have some lovely sunrises in KS, Salty.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 30, 2025 07:57 AM (zMLZ6)
174
Morning Horde, thx Pixy.
The demographic in the Stockton shooting appears to be Filipino and/or Hispanic. Something amongst rappers in those communities
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 30, 2025 07:57 AM (bfwj/)
175
The socks I usually wear with my boots are the same nylon blend, not thick, I wear with casual and dress shoes. At the moment, I take a 10 D in shoes and boots. The odd thing is that my Justin Ropers, which I have had since the mid-'90s, are 9.5 D; yet they fit perfectly. They must have gotten sprung in all the right places over thirty years.
There's a local non-chain Western wear store in the suburban city where I'll pick up my resoled Dan Posts on Tuesday. I can drive down and see what they have. The last time I was in there, though, it had become more of a boutique for suburban ladies who want to drink wine while they shop for "Western" clothes.
Still, the Tecovas sound like a good deal.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 07:58 AM (wzUl9)
177
Haitians: 352,959 - but only 18,000 living as "lawful permanent residents.
If you are an alien who is currently a beneficiary of TPS for Haiti, you should prepare to depart if you have no other lawful basis for remaining in the United States.
"You can use the CBP Home mobile application to report your departure from the United States.
This secure and convenient self-deportation process includes a complimentary plane ticket, a $1,000 exit bonus, and potential future opportunities for legal immigration to the United States"
Take the money and leave. ... or Tom Homan will get your ass.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 08:00 AM (owKS5)
178
(KTVU) The San Joaquin County Sheriff's Office received a report about 6 p.m. regarding a shooting in the 1900 block of Lucile Avenue.
In order to make housing more affordable in the early 2000s, Fannie and Freddie Mac, US government mortgage guarantor companies, began pressuring mortgage lenders to widen their rules for mortgage lending, even to include NINJA loans—No Income, No Job, No Problem—for purchasing real estate properties; then Fannie and Freddie married that expansion with marketing Adjustable Rate Mortgages, which would float according to Federal Reserve rates.
The outcome was the real estate and stock market crash of 2008. Since then, between 2009 and 2016, the fed rate was kept arbitrarily low at .75%, which inflated real estate prices; from 2020 to 2022, the fed rate was pushed down again to .25%, with the result of further increasing the average home price from $220,900 in 2010 to $420,000 in 2024. At the same time, the Federal Reserve has pushed up interest rates to 5.5%, so the average American has to pay more and borrow at higher rates for real estate, thanks to the government’s interventions to make housing more affordable.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 08:09 AM (owKS5)
184182 "It was gang-related"
"It was an isolated incident"
"It is still an active investigation"
"I can't give more details at this time"
Weasel words used by politicians trying to calm the normies.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 30, 2025 08:07 AM (9ipOP)
But if they say, "We may never know the motive," that means, "we do know the motive."
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 30, 2025 08:09 AM (PiwSw)
185
And when I say that the video is unreliable, I can be working on some code and all of a sudden my 43"Dell monitor will blank out (Dell monitors, IMHO are the best monitors at the business level - not for gaming) I have to hope and pray I can open up the Display Settings panel in another monitor and dial back the refresh frequency or scale something back on its resolution.
The reason why I don't go full desktop or rackmount is that I don't want my power bills to look like I'm mining crypto. A strong mini-pc should be at low power when writing code, a slight burst for compilation, and only need lots of compute when doing integration profiling and testing.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 30, 2025 08:10 AM (a4flb)
186
There is an excellent product called Shoe Stretch that can ease the one tight spot in otherwise well-fitted boots. Get the boot on, spray the stuff, and leave the boot on for a while. You have boot trees, don't you? Pretty important if you take them off wet.
Working boots are notorious for having unfinished seams inside, because the maker expects you to have sock armor on. For well finished interiors, you have to go to dressage boots. Some boots are made for walking. The ones made for riding fit differently.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 30, 2025 08:10 AM (zdLoL)
187
I'm back from my workout and have had some breakfast of a scrambled egg and half a bagel with cheese. The sensible thing to do? Change the cat litter box now, before the rain and before the Book Thread.
Am I sensible? The jury is still out on that, Counselor.
And Appaloosa, the fine adaptation of Robert Parker's Western novel, is on Grit at 7:30.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 08:12 AM (wzUl9)
188
I just finished my current book and need to go scrounge up the next book.
However, I have a kitty in my lap (Jasmine), which makes that slightly problematic.
189
"177 Haitians: 352,959 - but only 18,000 living as "lawful permanent residents."
It always mystifies me where these numbers come from.
Is it a common practice for illegal immigrants to walk into the nearest gubmint office and say Here I Am, Please Enter My Name Into Your Database So You Have An Accurate Headcount?
The number of illegal immigrants Currently In The Country, or that Entered The Country During The XYZ Administration is always some mumble mumble number of millions but no one ever bothers to explain the basis of that number. How in the world can anyone know? I think the number is usually biased for political purposes.
Figures often lie and liars often figure.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 30, 2025 08:14 AM (XQo4F)
191There is an excellent product called Shoe Stretch that can ease the one tight spot in otherwise well-fitted boots. Get the boot on, spray the stuff, and leave the boot on for a while. You have boot trees, don't you? Pretty important if you take them off wet.
Working boots are notorious for having unfinished seams inside, because the maker expects you to have sock armor on. For well finished interiors, you have to go to dressage boots. Some boots are made for walking. The ones made for riding fit differently.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 30, 2025
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Cavender's may have that Shoe Stretch. Yes, I'm more interested in walking boots that fit comfortably whether I'm walking, sitting, or driving.
Never have bought boot trees, or shoe trees, either. Maybe I should.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 30, 2025 08:16 AM (wzUl9)
192
The power thing is why I have walked away from Intel and gravitate towards AMD.
If I can get my tech stack to completely run on ARM (which it might already) I may jump to that.
My hobby project is writing a core retail banking system so I need .NET (which is ARM ready), azurite (for Azure cloud service emulation) elasticsearch, Kibana, Redis and a token RDBMS for things that need multi-column indexing and are structured.
I want the 128GB or more so I can develop an AI subsystem to handle KYC (Know Your Customer) for payments and other transactions.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 30, 2025 08:16 AM (a4flb)
193
A strong mini-pc should be at low power when writing code, a slight burst for compilation, and only need lots of compute when doing integration profiling and testing.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 30, 2025 08:10 AM (a4flb)
There is the Framework with the AI Max+ 395.
But I’m pretty sure they’re getting their motherboards out of Hong Kong like everybody else.
I think HP and Asus, possibly Dell too, are selling mini-PCs with the AI Max in them but I don’t know the product names off-hand.
Might be better luck with an American OEM.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 30, 2025 08:19 AM (6ydKt)
194
Riding heels look good but they are intended for riding.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 08:19 AM (owKS5)
195
AluminiumOS: so google can spy on everything you do, not just your browsing.
Posted by: Don't blame the alligators at November 30, 2025 08:22 AM (1Nv0l)
196
Thumbs up on that Cliff Richard Devil Woman song. I've always liked it a lot for some reason.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 30, 2025 08:22 AM (qBdHI)
197It always mystifies me where these numbers come from.
Given that many are scamming the system by registering under a dozen or so identities, that many others are piggy backing on stolen identities, and various government entities and NGOs deliberately want to fudge the numbers to obfuscate the absolute corruption and fraud throughout the entire system, the numbers are quite meaningless once you get past the first few digits.
Instead of "18,0000" or "352,959", think of it in orders of magnitude - tens of thousands vs hundreds of thousands.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 30, 2025 08:23 AM (a4flb)
198
Wolfus Aurelius,
If you're still around, Tecovas are. 20% off right now. Not sure for how long though. I need to go look/try on too...
Hah! I remember doing some work for a South African operation that was getting into cloud based PSAP software (all the stuff you would find at a 9-1-1 call center) There was a need to intercept the ALI (the system where your phone informs your exact location to the PSAP) and convert that into a Lat/Long/Elevation (so we can determine what floor of a building you are calling from)
The equipment was rather modest, but because of CJIS and other government sourcing standards, they wanted the provenance of the equipment to be US based.
That was a No Go. I knew some people who build customer equipment and they laughed because most components just are not made in the US, and the assembly cost in the US was like 10x what it could be done for overseas.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 30, 2025 08:31 AM (a4flb)
I'm so full it's pathetic. May change the entire schedule until I recover. It's a weekend that can be not wasted but open to change with no issues so will sign off for a while.
See you all later, and may you reap maximum benefit for your efforts on all days with corresponding major heartburn for the leftwit fungi.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at November 30, 2025 08:32 AM (vFbHf)
202
Young lady, wanging chung is an intensely private matter.
Posted by: Stuff your grandmother should have told you at November 30, 2025 08:32 AM (XQo4F)
203
Good morning!
Happy New Church Year!
For those who celebrate Advent-
Advent at Ephesus by the Benedictines of Mary
A wonderful Cd of hymns and chants, some in English, some in Latin
Last night was the annual Sausage Supper at Mr. S's church. Talk about a well-oiled machine- they make the sausage by hand, all the sides and desserts and serve upwards of 400 people, with some left over for the workers.
I work in the main Pie Room and I still have a little pie juice in my hair- it's a fast paced job.
I did not win the quilt raffle, but I have enough, really.
A real slice of Americana.
Posted by: sal at November 30, 2025 08:33 AM (f+FmA)
204
It's possible many of that 352,000 are counted a dozen times a piece. Doesn't make it better as those dozens and collecting what 1 person elsewhere is scamming.
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 08:33 AM (Ia/+0)
205
Just checked, sale is through today. I guess I'm going to try on boots after church...
206
That was a No Go. I knew some people who build customer equipment and they laughed because most components just are not made in the US, and the assembly cost in the US was like 10x what it could be done for overseas.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 30, 2025 08:31 AM (a4flb)
Oh no doubt. It’s all Taiwanese or Chinese.
But quality control and customer service is occasionally better for the American branded stuff with higher markups.
That’s supposedly why you pay more up front for the warranty and RMA experience.
It’s a real crapshoot getting reliable equipment these days no matter where you go,
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 30, 2025 08:36 AM (6ydKt)
Posted by: Eromero at November 30, 2025 08:36 AM (i+bC1)
208 "I work in the main Pie Room and I still have a little pie juice in my hair- it's a fast paced job."
Wait, wut?
Posted by: Guys everywhere at November 30, 2025 08:39 AM (XQo4F)
209
Getting some very light flurries
Don't think it's a snow accumulate
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 08:41 AM (Ia/+0)
210
204 It's possible many of that 352,000 are counted a dozen times a piece. Doesn't make it better as those dozens and collecting what 1 person elsewhere is scamming.
Posted by: Skip
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The other side:
https://tinyurl.com/yn23ayas
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 08:41 AM (owKS5)
211
In Austin, on South Congress there is a block that has Allen's Boots, Luchesse Boots, and Tecovas Boots. If I can't find a pair of boots there then I guess I'll quit looking.
212
My pet peave about "The Passion of the Christ" is that the 30 pieces of silver given to Judas did not sound like silver coins when spilled onto the floor.
Posted by: no one at November 30, 2025 08:43 AM (GLn15)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 08:44 AM (owKS5)
214
In Austin, on South Congress there is a block that has Allen's Boots, Luchesse Boots, and Tecovas Boots. If I can't find a pair of boots there then I guess I'll quit looking.
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at November 30, 2025 08:41 AM (VCgbV)
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I've never seen so many hats, boots, and belts in my life.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 30, 2025 08:46 AM (9ipOP)
215
My uncle had a pet peave for a few years. Thing smelled awful. I was kinda glad when it finally died.
Posted by: Spelling nerd at November 30, 2025 08:48 AM (XQo4F)
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 08:51 AM (Ia/+0)
218
"...the 30 pieces of silver given to Judas did not sound like silver coins when spilled onto the floor.
Posted by: no one at November 30, 2025 08:43 AM"
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The First World Problems thread will be posted later this afternoon and hordelings will be happy to discuss it with you at that time.
Posted by: Friendly upbeat stewardess voice at November 30, 2025 08:53 AM (XQo4F)
219It always mystifies me where these numbers come from.
When a Mama Integer and a Papa Equation love each other very much....
Posted by: naturalfake at November 30, 2025 08:54 AM (iJfKG)
China’s massive fishing fleet had spent 73,000 hours in ONE month ravaging the waters right off the Galápagos Marine Reserve
It is a UNESCO World Heritage site with unique species found nowhere else on Earth.
#China is ranked as the world’s worst nation in IUU fishing index.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 08:55 AM (owKS5)
221
In Austin, on South Congress there is a block that has Allen's Boots, Luchesse Boots, and Tecovas Boots. If I can't find a pair of boots there then I guess I'll quit looking.
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I have a pair of Tecovas and love them.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 30, 2025 08:56 AM (qBdHI)
222
An underwater exploration team has reported successfully identifying the wreck of the heavy cruiser USS Quincy (CA-39), sunk on August 9, 1942, during the Battle of Savo Island. Released ROV footage shows several key structures of the ship still recognizable, including the main gun barrel arrays, which appear intact on the seafloor.
...
This discovery provides crucial visual data on the ship's final condition after being hit by a series of Japanese torpedoes and artillery fire during an intense night battle. Located at a previously inaccessible depth, this new documentation is considered one of the most detailed mappings of Quincy's remains.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 08:57 AM (owKS5)
223
Bring your reading glasses and head upstairs
BOOK NOOD
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 08:58 AM (Ia/+0)
224
I'm looking a black or brown boots. Which are more versatile??? I have a pair of red ones now.
225
I've never trusted anyone who called a version of linux a 'flavor'. Adding a 'U' seems even LESS trustworthy.
Posted by: Kevin at November 30, 2025 09:05 AM (h5uyd)
226
No Book Thread for me. Pants all at the cleaners.
Posted by: One Hour Martinizing Is A Lie at November 30, 2025 09:11 AM (oftw2)
227I've never trusted anyone who called a version of linux a 'flavor'. Adding a 'U' seems even LESS trustworthy.
Would you prefer "denomination" ?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 30, 2025 09:31 AM (a4flb)
228
Since MineCraft was sold to Micro$oft I've been getting my fix with the open source Minetest. The Mineclonia add on is a fair approximation of the Mojang game.
Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at November 30, 2025 09:55 AM (2wtdA)
229
What I don't like about Windows is that it treats me as a resource to be harvested, whether or not I agree. Whatever I do on my computer is uploaded on to a cloud somewhere, so someone can examine what I'm doing and sell that info to someone, all supposedly predicated on improving my user experience.
Leave me (and my info) the f*ck alone.
Posted by: Tired of Living Under a Microscope at November 30, 2025 09:57 AM (MV++E)
AMERICA: NORTH CAROLINA WAS TARGETED IN 2021 - AND THIS IS HOW RED STATES GET FLIPPED
In 2021, Greensboro media proudly announced the arrival of Afghan sharia-adherent refugees to the Piedmont Triad.
Church World Service (CWS) bragged on camera that everything “went well” as they lined up housing, apartments, volunteers, and gift cards for their newest arrivals.
They openly said they were preparing for more and, of course, emphasized their “main goal”: finding a “clear pathway for these individuals to be able to adjust their status.”
Translation: Future left-wing voters.
X: https://bit.ly/4pa8RPb
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 30, 2025 09:59 AM (P5BPp)
These are the gatekeepers importing migrants into America:
-- Church World Service
-- Episcopal Migration Ministries
-- Ethiopian Community Development Council
-- HIAS (Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society)
-- International Rescue Committee
-- Lutheran Immigration & Refugee Service
-- U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops
-- U.S. Committee for Refugees and Immigrants
-- World Relief
They decide who comes, where they go, and which communities get transformed.
And they target red states because that is where flipping political power delivers more federal money for their replacement machine.
X: https://bit.ly/4pa8RPb
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 30, 2025 10:00 AM (P5BPp)
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223 Bring your reading glasses and head upstairs
BOOK NOOD
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2025 08:58 AM (Ia/+0)
Posted by: m at November 30, 2025 10:15 AM (RuTUS)
19 shot and 4 dead after a mass shooting at what was supposed to be a child’s birthday party in Stockton, California.
This post brought to you by Gavin Newsom, reminding you that crime is down.
X video: https://bit.ly/4itoIFG
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 30, 2025 10:29 AM (P5BPp)
235
Stephen Miller:
“40% of rent controlled properties are being lived in by people who weren’t even born in the country….
We bring in people from foreign countries, and then we pay to lower the cost of their housing while people who were born here have to pay higher prices.”
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 30, 2025 10:31 AM (owKS5)
236
Zelazny on your list takes me back. When in early grades I had joined the Science Fiction Book Club, where I got 20?) free books to join in exchange for a monthly commitment of some sort. There I found Chronicles of Amber and read many others of his following
Posted by: German Shepherd at November 30, 2025 10:37 AM (6CWpO)
This is the kind of powerful weapon against illegal alien fraud that goes unreported by the liberal media juggernaut. Yet another victory by President Trump and his terrific cabinet.
Scott Bessent is a warrior.
Ian Jaeger @IanJaeger29
BREAKING: Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent announces that he is removing illegal immigrants from the financial system completely.
He is removing tax benefits and cross-border money transfers.
I voted for this.
X: https://bit.ly/4ou05dJ
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 30, 2025 10:44 AM (P5BPp)
An “internal” memo leaked from FDA files attributed to ten childhood deaths caused by the COVID “vaccine.”
Will the truth about COVID and the trillion dollar money scam surrounding the vaccine ever be fully told? A vaccine that didn’t stop a disease (created in a Wuhan bioweapons lab) that appears to be more deadly than the disease itself is the stuff of Hollywood horror movies.
COVID: a disease so deadly you need a test to know you have it, and a trillion dollar vaccine that doesn’t cure it or stop it from spreading to others.
Ian Miller @ianmSC
Remember, Gavin Newsom mandated COVID vaccines for all schoolchildren and compared them to polio shots — now we learn the FDA has found that at least 10 children died as a result of COVID vaccines
Following incompetent “experts” was quite literally dangerous for children
X: https://bit.ly/4oojRXS
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 30, 2025 11:36 AM (P5BPp)
Climate alarmist tells the UN: "Climate change is caused 20% by meat and dairy, so the producers of meat and dairy should pay for the damage they cause."
"When I damage the window of my neighbour, I have to repair this damage, but meat and dairy processors also have to repair the damage they cause on others, and in the future." 🤡
X video: https://bit.ly/4rrfAWk
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 30, 2025 11:43 AM (P5BPp)
Saturday Night "Club ONT" November 29, 2025 [The 3 Ds]
Alright, Christmas Tree... it is timber time. Junior, bring me the saw.
Welcome to Club ONT. A collaboration the 3D's - The Disco, The Dino, and The Doggo. Apparently today was Small Business Saturday. Yet another event I was this many days old before knowing.
Quote of the Weekend
Too many people spend money they haven't earned to buy things they don't want to impress people they don't like.
Will Rogers
Who is feeling festive and enjoying their Thanksgiving weekend? Family still around? Decorations? Leftovers!
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Saturday Night Jokes and Other Funnies
A man was doing some last minute Christmas shopping when he spotted a beautiful parrot through the window of a pet shop.
The man walked inside to get a better look, and the owner of the shop approached the man.
"That's Chet," the owner said, "He's a very special parrot."
"What do you mean special?" the man asked.
The owner struck a match and held it under the parrot's left foot and Chet began to sing, "Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way..."
The man was totally amazed. The owner then held the lit match under the parrot's right foot and Chet began to sing, "Deck the hall with boughs of holly, Fa, la, la, la, la, la, la..."
The man had never seen any parrot like this one. He quickly paid the man for the parrot and rushed home to his wife.
Skeptical of her husband's purchase, the wife sat down and watched the man light a match, then hold it under the parrot's left foot. Chet began to bellow, "Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way..."
The wife was speechless. The man then held the match under the parrots right foot and Chet began to bellow, "Deck the hall with boughs of holly, Fa, la, la, la, la, la, la..."
The wife, still skeptical asked, "What would happen if you held the match under both of his feet?"
The man thought for a minute, then held the lit match under both of the parrot's feet.
Chet began to squawk louder than ever, "CHETS NUTS ROASTING OVER AN OPEN FIRE!"
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Went into a toy store to do some early Christmas shopping and asked the assistant, "Where are the Schwarzenegger dolls?"
He said, "Aisle B, back."
Ingredients
2 ounces dark rum
½ ounce lime juice
½ ounce pineapple juice
¼ ounce Demerara Syrup (syrup made with sugar in the raw)
¼ ounce cinnamon syrup
1 dash Angostura bitters
Directions
In a cocktail shaker, add all ingredients with ice. Shake well and strain into a coupe glass.
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Club ONT Department of Philosophy
Anyone know what the correct amount of woomba is?
Asking the important questions.
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Club ONT Trains
Ken Burns has rightfully been taking some heat for his revisionist Civil War series. Let's take a look at something interesting from the era.
The Great Locomotive Chase of 1862. The Failed Union Plot To Steal A Confederate Train And Destroy Tracks Across The South.
The plan to steal a Confederate train, hatched by a civilian spy named James J. Andrews, had a dual purpose. It was meant to destroy Western and Atlantic Railroad and cut off Confederate supplies to Chattanooga, making the city vulnerable to capture by Major General Ormsby M. Mitchel.
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James J. Andrews and his men targeted a train station in Kennesaw known as Big Shanty because it didn't have a telegraph station. If everything went according to plan, the Confederates would be unable to alert others to the train theft, thus giving Andrews and his men a healthy head start.
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Club ONT Permanent Record
No compatibility tests. Nor leadership. Certainly not intelligence test - we all know smart the Horde... well nevermind. The Club is going right to the jugular. Dictator and President tests. Which are you most aligned with?
Villian Test
This free online 45-question personality test will allow you to compare yourself with the personalities of 20 murderous dictators and terrorists, using a hybrid of the scientific "Big Five" measure of personality and the cognitive theories of C.G. Jung. Furthermore, this test will also match your personality scores with peer-reviewed university studies.
In his research, Professor Dr. John M. Berecz, Ph.D., studied the personalities of several U.S. presidents and concluded that each of them could be linked to a definite psychiatric pathology.
Which U.S. president do you resemble? For each of the following statements, indicate how well it applies to you below.
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Club ONT Science Update
Space trivia: Voyager 1 was launched on September 5, 1977. It has been flying for over 48 years away from the sun at an average of over 38,026 miles per hour.
It is not yet one light-day away from earth. A light-day is the distance it takes for a beam of light to travel over 24 hours.
For comparison, the closest star is 4.24 light-years away. The closest star is Proxima Centauri, part of the Alpha Centauri system.
If the relative celestial locations remained the same (which they won't), it would take Voyager 1 over 74,000 earth years to reach Proxima Centauri at its current pace. Having said that, Voyager 1 was never built for top speed. More speed is possible, so other spacecraft could get there much more quickly.
If you are at Club ONT's Proxima Centauri location and you are waiting for drink delivery from earth, please be patient. Old copies of Compute! Magazine are in the lobby for you to read while you wait.
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Club ONT Music
Let's begin the Christmas season with a very Club-worthy tune from The Waitresses!
Check out that funky bass-line!
Bringing back a Club favorite - you will face scorn if you are caught not Wanging Chung!
Anyone here named Sharona? If so, this one's for you!
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Top 10ish Comments of the Week
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Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 29, 2025 10:07 PM (uQesX)
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Leftover stuffing heated in the waffle iron. Good stuff!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 29, 2025 10:08 PM (k2x4V)
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I wonder how many miles that Tesla has traveled so far.
Posted by: davidt at November 29, 2025 10:09 PM (Q+gd/)
19Sorry. I guess I shoulda fucked em up so much they never moved out.
You did good. Time to admit that you were a competent parent.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at November 29, 2025 10:09 PM (lUFok)
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Sorry. I guess I shoulda fucked em up so much they never moved out.
Posted by: nurse ratched
{{{Nurse!}}} But if you'd done that, they'd be hard core lefties, instead of the fine conservatives they are.
OK, back after I take the bad guy test....
Posted by: Some Rat at November 29, 2025 10:09 PM (TfUTr)
I’ll just have to settle for bourbon and sour patch gummies.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 29, 2025 10:10 PM (XV/Pl)
22I think you missed it on this one. His Civil Wars series from 1990 was largely acclaimed.
On the other hand, his Revolutionary War series from this year has been widely panned for its revisionism.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at November 29, 2025 10:07 PM (syz1S)
I agree. He didn't revise The Civil War. But like muzzies saying they've always been here, Burns is now into propaganda. Leni Riefenstahl would be proud.
Posted by: RickZ at November 29, 2025 10:10 PM (gKDq2)
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Those are some mighty good excuses for being late....
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 29, 2025 10:14 PM (L/fGl)
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mindfull webworker @ 27 - It didn't go to plan; they got caught and hanged. There was a Wonderful World of Disney movie about it, early 60s. Fess Parker starred.
Posted by: Butch at November 29, 2025 10:14 PM (98xTj)
Posted by: NCKate at November 29, 2025 10:15 PM (SFtGa)
35I hope all of you enjoyed drinking the tears of your leftist relatives!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 29, 2025 10:03 PM (9ipOP)
My uber-lib cousin-in-law agreed with me that the Davis-Bacon act was created specifically to exclude Southern migratory black labor from Northern trade union jobs.
She also wanted to discuss immigration and I let that one sail on by without noticing it, so it was a decent potluck.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 10:16 PM (rbvCR)
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Nurse you did a damn fine job with the boys.
Never, ever think that you didn't. They are fine young men and yes, they still need their mom.
Posted by: Winston AKA Pops at November 29, 2025 10:14 PM (Wh47r)
This!
Trust me. They will always need mom.
And you're a good one!
Posted by: Diogenes at November 29, 2025 10:17 PM (y3bZw)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 29, 2025 10:18 PM (k2x4V)
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Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 29, 2025 10:03 PM (9ipOP)
I didn't have to worry about leftist relatives. In fact my son said during this weekend, "Did you know that Joe Biden lied about his academic record in law school.? Joe Biden lied about so many things."
It is possible to be friends with left. Just never mention politics . I had a lovely lunch with a friend the other day. We stayed entirely with church talk and about our families. I was over at her house today and I saw the back of her husbands car which said "The anti Tesla club" . Uggh!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 10:18 PM (iWbgM)
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Youngest showed up with a Buffalo Trace nog. It's better than I expected. Quite good, as a matter of fact...
Posted by: man at November 29, 2025 10:19 PM (XuXeR)
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That Great Train Raid was comically retold by Buster Keaton in “The General”, but the true story had a much darker ending - the raiders were caught and executed by the Confederates. There is a remarkable monument to them, complete with a bronze model of “The General”. (The Andrews Raiders Monument)
This is actually the first National Cemetery in the country, predating Arlington by a few months.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 10:19 PM (3U2FH)
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Went to mom's for a belated T-day dinner. I cooked everything but the pies. We took the hell-hound, and he's limping now because he's no longer a puppy but he runs around like one when he's at grandma's house. He'll sleep well tonight.
Posted by: PabloD at November 29, 2025 10:20 PM (GALGA)
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I don't get the hatred towards Brussels sprouts. Either you like them or you don't. It's not an evangelism effort.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 10:20 PM (iWbgM)
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I am going to take the villain test. Start placing your bets while I am gone. Be right back
Posted by: Piper at November 29, 2025 10:20 PM (Wmg4n)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 29, 2025 10:18 PM
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Bloodlines are a bit murky. All the family records got lost in the great asteroid hit.
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Good evening all!
Yay Ds!
I'm still too full to crack wise tonight so I'm gonna iounge and lurk...
Y'all have fun😄!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at November 29, 2025 10:24 PM (3pxDZ)
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Girl F.'s father in law is in town so I passed the baton to him. My leash has been yanked too many times and now I'm muzzled.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 29, 2025 10:24 PM (9ipOP)
55they got caught and hanged. There was a Wonderful World of Disney movie about it, early 60s. Fess Parker starred.
Wonderful world of hanged to death. Disney magic. IMDb - I see Fess was James Andrews, so, one of the hanged? Davy Crockett at least got to go down fighting.
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Putin...but, but, I woulda left the ukes alone and attacked china.
Posted by: Some Rat at November 29, 2025 10:24 PM (TfUTr)
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I don't get the hatred towards Brussels sprouts. Either you like them or you don't. It's not an evangelism effort.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
Not like okra then?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 29, 2025 10:24 PM (k2x4V)
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Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 29, 2025 10:24 PM (k2x4V)
I don't think I've ever had okra.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 10:25 PM (iWbgM)
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I don't get the hatred towards Brussels sprouts. Either you like them or you don't. It's not an evangelism effort.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 10:20 PM (iWbgM)
Maybe, but the bacon, brown sugar, and maple syrup I put in them would turn a heathen sprout hater toward the light.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 29, 2025 10:25 PM (uQesX)
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My grandson left his phone over here on Thanksgiving so I drove over today and returned it. My preschool grandson ran over when he saw me asking, "Did you bring any donuts?"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 29, 2025 10:26 PM (L/fGl)
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45 I don't get the hatred towards Brussels sprouts. Either you like them or you don't. It's not an evangelism effort.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 10:20 PM (iWbgM)
Brussels Sprouts are one of the cruciferous vegetables along with broccoli, mustard, horseradish and many others. All of these vegetables tend to have high concentrations of sulfur, which adds a flavor which some don’t mind and which some can’t abide at all.
As your body does require some small amounts of sulfur to operate effectively, they are quite healthy for you to eat.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 10:26 PM (3U2FH)
Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025 10:26 PM (77rzZ)
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That Great Train Raid was comically retold by Buster Keaton in “The General”, but the true story had a much darker ending - the raiders were caught and executed by the Confederates.
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Seven of them. The rest either escaped or were exchanged. The survivors of the military men were awarded the first Medals of Honor.
Two excellent reads on the raid are "Stealing the General" and the Osprey book on the raid (much shorter).
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 29, 2025 10:27 PM (0cOaq)
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OrangeEnt - add in some Dijon mustard and black pepper to your ingredients, and you have my recipe for Brussels sprouts.
Posted by: PabloD at November 29, 2025 10:27 PM (GALGA)
Uh oh. I came out Hitler.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 29, 2025 10:14 PM (L/fGl)
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I'm Putin, y'all
Posted by: NCKate at November 29, 2025 10:15 PM (SFtGa)
We've got the Trifecta here on the ONT. I'm Josef Stalin. And I hate commies.
Posted by: RickZ at November 29, 2025 10:29 PM (gKDq2)
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OrangeEnt - add in some Dijon mustard and black pepper to your ingredients, and you have my recipe for Brussels sprouts.
Posted by: PabloD at November 29, 2025 10:27 PM (GALGA)
Haven't tried mustard, but have used salt, pepper, and garlic powder at the initial saute.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 29, 2025 10:29 PM (uQesX)
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All of my recipes for Brussels sprouts involve a wastebasket.
Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025 10:29 PM (77rzZ)
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>> My grandson left his phone over here on Thanksgiving so I drove over today and returned it. My preschool grandson ran over when he saw me asking, "Did you bring any donuts?"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 29, 2025 10:26 PM
The boy has his priorities straight. You know what to do.
Posted by: huerfano at November 29, 2025 10:29 PM (98kQX)
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I avoid all those online personality quizzes. I don't want to give big data extra insight about me. But these two do sound kind of fun. Oh well.
Posted by: PaleRider at November 29, 2025 10:30 PM (hhkIi)
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I spent the holiday with son, daughter, and now seven grandchildren. The last foster child was just officially adopted a week ago. The judge has spoken. It's now final.
Eleven of us look like lanky Vikings. The newest family member looks like a three year old Gary Coleman. Son and Daughter-in-law have fostered him since he came out of NICU, with the exception of a failed three month stint with his birth parents. We are all very happy about it.
Posted by: Rockin' Mel Slurp at November 29, 2025 10:30 PM (oftw2)
Onions will do that to you. Cabbage and beans, too.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at November
Do you know how hard it is to explain why you are laughing when the person next to you doesn’t get this blog to start?
Posted by: Piper at November 29, 2025 10:31 PM (Wmg4n)
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There was a Wonderful World of Disney movie about it, early 60s. Fess Parker starred.
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I've got a copy. It's pretty leaden starting and ending, but really gets cracking once the raid is actually underway. Jeff Hunter is Conductor Fuller, the man most responsible for getting pursuit under way, and Slim Pickens is the engineer of the "Texas," the locomotive that finally caught up to the raiders.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 29, 2025 10:31 PM (0cOaq)
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My grandson left his phone over here on Thanksgiving so I drove over today and returned it. My preschool grandson ran over when he saw me asking, "Did you bring any donuts?"
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That's great! Hope you didn't disappoint him....
Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025 10:31 PM (77rzZ)
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nurse, welcome to the Give Me Grandchildren or There Will Be Unpleasantness club
Posted by: San Franpsycho
They’re tryin’! Prayers for the crazy monkey sex!
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 29, 2025 10:21 PM (mT+6a)
Dang!
That's hawt!
*makes plans to change flight home*
Posted by: Diogenes at November 29, 2025 10:32 PM (y3bZw)
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A dear aunt of mine served Brussels sprouts to my family one time when we visited. Neither Mrs. QED nor either daughter nor myself had ever eaten them. We dutifully took some and ate them. Even picky eater daughter #2 who now loves them and fixes them for her hubby.
Posted by: QED Texan Grandpa-to-be at November 29, 2025 10:32 PM (fveCG)
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My recipes for Brussels Sprouts involve steam and butter.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 10:32 PM (Wt3Iw)
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Putting some mp3's onto a new thumb drive so I can test the car stereo on the bench in the other room.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 10:32 PM (npFr7)
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57 they got caught and hanged. There was a Wonderful World of Disney movie about it, early 60s. Fess Parker starred.
Wonderful world of hanged to death. Disney magic. IMDb - I see Fess was James Andrews, so, one of the hanged? Davy Crockett at least got to go down fighting.
Posted by: mindful webworker - kilt him a bar at November 29, 2025 10:24 PM (LaTF/)
Saw the movie about 5 years ago but can't remember Fess Parker's fate. I believe he was captured but the Confederates did not execute him.
Posted by: Joemarine at November 29, 2025 10:32 PM (y171U)
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I avoid all those online personality quizzes. I don't want to give big data extra insight about me. But these two do sound kind of fun. Oh well.
Posted by: PaleRider
Honestly, it's too late. ALL online access provides info data points to Big Data about you. Seriously.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 29, 2025 10:33 PM (cYBz/)
86We've got the Trifecta here on the ONT. I'm Josef Stalin. And I hate commies.
Posted by: RickZ at November 29, 2025 10:29 PM (gKDq2)
Rejoice, then. Stalin killed more commies than just about anyone.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 10:33 PM (rbvCR)
87OrangeEnt - add in some Dijon mustard and black pepper to your ingredients, and you have my recipe for Brussels sprouts.
Posted by: PabloD at November 29, 2025 10:27 PM (GALGA)
Toasted in butter sliced almonds as a sprinkled on topping.
Posted by: RickZ at November 29, 2025 10:33 PM (gKDq2)
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Saddam Hussein & Jimmy Carter....kind of depressing. I'm less upset about being paired with Saddam, than I am being associated with the Peanut farmer.
(I'm not sure which is the villain and which is the President)
Posted by: Orson at November 29, 2025 10:33 PM (dIske)
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All of my recipes for Brussels sprouts involve a wastebasket.
Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025 10:29 PM (77rzZ)
You misspelled okra.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 29, 2025 10:33 PM (y3bZw)
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Eleven of us look like lanky Vikings. The newest family member looks like a three year old Gary Coleman. Son and Daughter-in-law have fostered him since he came out of NICU, with the exception of a failed three month stint with his birth parents. We are all very happy about it.
Posted by: Rockin' Mel Slurp
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Congrats! This is a great story....
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I believe he was captured but the Confederates did not execute him.
Posted by: Joemarine at November 29, 2025 10:32 PM (y171U)
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They drew the veil of good taste over the executions.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 29, 2025 10:34 PM (0cOaq)
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Do you know how hard it is to explain why you are laughing when the person next to you doesn’t get this blog to start?
Posted by: Piper
That's why I insisted my lovely wife accompany me to a MoMe. Hell, she fit in like she was born to it.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 29, 2025 10:34 PM (cYBz/)
Posted by: scamoydog at November 29, 2025 10:39 PM (41CYW)
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***Space trivia: Voyager 1 was launched on September 5, 1977. It has been flying for over 48 years away from the sun at an average of over 38,026 miles per hour.
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Those cigarette smoking buzz cuts came to work with intent.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 10:40 PM (Wt3Iw)
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I avoid all those online personality quizzes. I don't want to give big data extra insight about me. But these two do sound kind of fun. Oh well.
Posted by: PaleRider at November 29, 2025 10:30 PM (hhkIi)
If you're running Brave browser, you can right click the link and open in a private window, or in Tor.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 29, 2025 10:40 PM (uQesX)
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Well constructed test; I couldn’t predict where it was going, so I honestly.
I came out as Hermann Goering.
I’m so doing, I see the obvious limits of such a test - general personality type has very little to do with the actions one takes. For every villain on that list, there are thousands of people with the same general personality type who did NOT make the choices those villains did.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 10:41 PM (3U2FH)
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97 53 Those personality tests are kinda lame
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at November 29, 2025 10:22 PM (xcxpd)
At the end they list Nixon as "paranoid". Must have been written by a lefty.
Posted by: Joemarine at November 29, 2025 10:35 PM (y171U)
Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025 10:42 PM (77rzZ)
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My graduate school thesis was about how presidential psychology affects policymaking, specifically Jimmy Carter's messiah complex and how it determined both his energy policy and his foreign policy.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 29, 2025 10:42 PM (9ipOP)
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I’m so doing, I see the obvious limits of such a test - general personality type has very little to do with the actions one takes. For every villain on that list, there are thousands of people with the same general personality type who did NOT make the choices those villains did.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 10:41 PM (3U2FH)
Do you have a huge model train layout in your attic?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 10:42 PM (npFr7)
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Come up here.
I can show you an appreciation for cold and rainy.
Proper gear. Hot food. A thermos of hot coffee. Bird book. Binoculars.
Amazing.
Posted by: nurse ratched
Y'all do have the experience.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2025 10:43 PM (3k5hk)
Posted by: Tonypete at November 29, 2025 10:44 PM (cYBz/)
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106 The Knack lead singer, with that hair, looks like he could be a cousin of John Ritter.
Posted by: mindful webworker - Running down the length of my thighs, Chrissy Snow at November 29, 2025 10:39 PM (LaTF/)
Yeah, Doug Fieger. I don't remember his hair looking like Dana Carvey from "Wayne's World".
Posted by: Joemarine at November 29, 2025 10:44 PM (y171U)
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Mom and Dad always gave me good advice. They have passed on now but I still remember how I was raised and what they they taught me. So even now I still rely on them because I know what they would say and I know they would be right.
Posted by: Case at November 29, 2025 10:45 PM (5Je/N)
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Posted by: scamoydog at November 29, 2025 10:39 PM (41CYW)
Aha! The rare and highly sought-after Scamoyed!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 10:45 PM (npFr7)
Well, he was, but only because they were out to get him.
Posted by: mindful webworker - speak into the lamp base at November 29, 2025 10:41 PM (LaTF/)
So true..."You won't have Dick Nixon to kick around anymore".
Posted by: Joemarine at November 29, 2025 10:47 PM (y171U)
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I had a bunch of stuff I wanted to do outside, but said, "Nah".
I've been doing that a lot lately. Just can't get motivated.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2025 10:47 PM (3k5hk)
It's below zero here. "Outside" is gonna have to wait.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 10:48 PM (npFr7)
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Ran the dogs, trimmed the tree, finally got through the TG day dishes, even cleaned out another box after a year from moving. I'm feeling positively proactive.
And then there's gin.
Shoulder surgery revision scheduled for mid-December, so I'm trying to finish everything up before that. Being a one-armed bandit for 6 weeks really fucks up life. I'm NOT canceling the outrageous NY Eve fondue party, so if you are around, feel free to drop in and bring something to blow up. DH says he will cut up the cheese and nibbles, and anybody can melt chocolate in heavy cream, so we should be good to go.
DH is the bartender, so that's covered. Grey Goose was on sale at Three Bears, so if you like martoonies, you are good to go. Plus I think he bought Lagavulin, so there's sipping, too. And we will be shooting, but not after you've been drinking, so plan accordingly.
Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 29, 2025 10:48 PM (6Bc88)
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I am Reagan and Trump. Interesting. On that note, I am off to bed.
Posted by: Piper at November 29, 2025 10:48 PM (Wmg4n)
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Hi Bulg, and you spelling smart asses.
Posted by: scamoydog - likes the nic error
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So, you're changing your nic? Need to know for the Christmas card....
Discuss.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 29, 2025 10:44 PM (cYBz/)
So is "prayferus". You may need to be Catholic to know that.
Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 29, 2025 10:50 PM (6Bc88)
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Off to do a few more things before the evening gets too far along. See you all on the book thread.
Posted by: PabloD at November 29, 2025 10:50 PM (GALGA)
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So is "prayferus". You may need to be Catholic to know that.
Posted by: tcn
HA!
Posted by: Tonypete at November 29, 2025 10:51 PM (cYBz/)
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Posted by: raimondo at November 29, 2025 10:50 PM (fuXqv)
Does anybody know what this idiot is on about?
Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 29, 2025 10:51 PM (6Bc88)
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I had a bunch of stuff I wanted to do outside, but said, "Nah".
I've been doing that a lot lately. Just can't get motivated.
Posted by: rickb223
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Understood! It's cold & rainy here too. Windy, with daytime temps in the 40s.
Yeah, not motivated *at all* for outdoor work. And Thanksgiving weekend has always been my "catch-up the yard work" time, with few exceptions.
(This is why I usually install Christmas lights ~mid-November or so!)
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 10:51 PM (rdVOm)
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Does anybody know what this idiot is on about?
Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK
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Does anybody really care?
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 10:52 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 10:46 PM
Ahhhh. Pixy.
That wanton libidinous trollop.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 29, 2025 10:53 PM (y3bZw)
141My graduate school thesis was about how presidential psychology affects policymaking, specifically Jimmy Carter's messiah complex and how it determined both his energy policy and his foreign policy.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 29, 2025 10:42 PM (9ipOP)
I have recently read an article or three about how the need to conceal inflation, due to the spending in the 60's that lead to the end of Bretton-Woods and the rise of the Petro-dollar, led a lot of the dietary, energy and ecology directives that we are faced with now.
You said you focused on personality, but did you consider the economic obligations as well?
No doubt Carter had a messiah complex, but he would have needed a disaster to save us from, I think.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 10:53 PM (rbvCR)
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Does anybody know what this idiot is on about?
Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 29, 2025 10:51 PM (6Bc8
He seems to be even more off his meds than usual tonight.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 10:54 PM (3U2FH)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 10:54 PM (Wt3Iw)
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It's not quite so cold out since TG. Warmed up into the 20's during the day, so that's nice. Got the wood stove on high burn just now though. It is still cold at night.
Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 29, 2025 10:54 PM (6Bc88)
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“Scamoy,” I didn’t notice the spelling change.
Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025 10:54 PM (77rzZ)
146
So, you're changing your nic? Need to know for the Christmas card....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at November 29, 2025 10:48 PM (IQ6Gq)
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I might! My sparkling personality will remain unchanged, however.
Posted by: scamoydog - likes the nic error at November 29, 2025 10:54 PM (41CYW)
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No doubt Carter had a messiah complex, but he would have needed a disaster to save us from, I think.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 10:53 PM (rbvCR)
That ass couldn't find his way out of a wet paper bag. He was so stupid he didn't realize how stupid he was. Honestly, peanut farmer was the height of his ability.
He could not even pronounce "nuclear," and claimed to be a "nuculear scientist."
Dumb as a post.
Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 29, 2025 10:56 PM (6Bc88)
JQ, the club is looking quite festive, thanks for decorating.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at November 29, 2025 10:56 PM (0nHVk)
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Carter was an idiot. They should have shot him out a tube when they had him down under.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 10:56 PM (Wt3Iw)
150My graduate school thesis was about how presidential psychology affects policymaking, specifically Jimmy Carter's messiah complex and how it determined both his energy policy and his foreign policy. Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 29, 2025 10:42 PM (9ipOP)
Barack Obama. Our second three-term president.
Posted by: RickZ at November 29, 2025 10:56 PM (gKDq2)
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So, you're changing your nic? Need to know for the Christmas card....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at November 29, 2025 10:48 PM (IQ6Gq)
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I might! My sparkling personality will remain unchanged, however.
Posted by: scamoydog - likes the nic error
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Right...Thanks anyway, I'll just send it to Scampywife....
Remember the guy that assaulted and maybe tried to murder Jeffrey Epstein? Nicholas Tartaglione?
He was in prison because he murdered 4 hispanic guys over drugs.
Well, before he was dealing drugs. he was cop in Ossining NY . And he had a nemesis. A guy named Clay Tiffany who had a public access TV. Tiffany claimed Tartaglione and much of government in his area were deeply corrupt with the former part of the mob.
Tartaglione assaulted Tiffany and got fired for it. Interestingly, Tartaglione offered to settle the case with Tiffany for $200K after he was fired. Apparently offering money from the town even though the town had fired him. Tiffany refused and won a million dollar judgement.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2025 11:00 PM (sKqQm)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 29, 2025 11:01 PM (vV6n9)
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Chance of snow tonight, so I fired up the riding mower and sucked up the last of the leaves off the lawn. Even with a riding mower, it is a fair sized job.
It helps that I pull the bagging chute off and run over the leaves first to mulch them a little. This makes for a lot fewer runs back and forth to the compost pile with the bagger.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 29, 2025 11:01 PM (8QVSJ)
Posted by: r hennigantx at November 29, 2025 11:05 PM (gbOdA)
166That ass couldn't find his way out of a wet paper bag. He was so stupid he didn't realize how stupid he was. Honestly, peanut farmer was the height of his ability.
He could not even pronounce "nuclear," and claimed to be a "nuculear scientist."
Dumb as a post.
Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 29, 2025 10:56 PM (6Bc8
One thing, among many, that pissed me off about Carter and it goes pretty much unmentioned today.
Being a Southern Baptist, no liquor touched his lips. Instead of being normal, like George Bush and not drinking, he banned alcohol at his White House dinners. Yeah, I don't drink so you can't, either.
I didn't vote for the Moral Police when I voted for Trump, just the police is fine.
Posted by: RickZ at November 29, 2025 11:06 PM (gKDq2)
JQ!
Please send a round to the wobbly table. I’m here solo, but hopefully I’ll get some fellow morons!
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 29, 2025 11:06 PM (mT+6a)
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Woot! The old (2012 model?) Kenwood car stereo works. Played the mp3"s off the memory stick, got FM reception off the antenna, and now it's currently playing a CD.
The bad news? I poured myself a rum and eggnog, but poured the eggnog out of the milk carton instead of the eggnog carton, and for some inexplicable reason, I got milk. So, I am drinking moosemilk.
And I am listening to Studebaker John and the Hawks. Some fine modern-day Chicago electric blues.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 11:07 PM (npFr7)
171We've got the Trifecta here on the ONT. I'm Josef Stalin. And I hate commies.
Posted by: RickZ
Rejoice, then. Stalin killed more commies than just about anyone.
Posted by: Kindltot
And anyone who gets "Adolf Hitler" can rest easy knowing they're the one who killed Adolf Hitler.
Posted by: mikeski at November 29, 2025 11:07 PM (XGULh)
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Hi Grateful, I loved reading of your hotel room Thanksgiving!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at November 29, 2025 11:08 PM (0nHVk)
173
I am the murderous villian dictator that tired of test on the eighth question and terminated it.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 29, 2025 11:08 PM (Z5/Ih)
174why would us invade Venezuela?
Posted by: r hennigantx
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Why not?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 11:06 PM (Wt3Iw)
Too messy.
Posted by: RickZ at November 29, 2025 11:08 PM (gKDq2)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 11:06 PM (Wt3Iw)
nothing there
Posted by: r hennigantx at November 29, 2025 11:10 PM (gbOdA)
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why would us invade Venezuela?
Posted by: r hennigantx at November 29, 2025 11:05 PM (gbOdA)
Because Vuvuzuela is too well-armed?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 11:10 PM (npFr7)
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Well, the weather people finally got one right. That storm going across the midwest actually did hit us in NE IN. Still snowing, we have about 7.5 inches on the ground right now.
Grandkids are in snow heaven!
Weather alert says travel will be difficult. Huh. Regular geniuses, they are.
At least they decided saying travel may be "impossible" was just a bit much.
Posted by: TecumsehTea at November 29, 2025 11:10 PM (+4S8X)
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I made two burgers Thursday night-- saved one for Friday night, but wasn't hungry... ate it this evening. All the sloppy fixin's *except* onion. Haha, my tummy is thanking me for that.
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 11:11 PM (rdVOm)
183how did he get thru Naval Acad?
Posted by: r hennigantx at November 29, 2025 11:08 PM (gbOdA)
Who nominated him and how did he get selected?
People forget you just don't apply to service academies.
Posted by: RickZ at November 29, 2025 11:11 PM (gKDq2)
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JQ!
Please send a round to the wobbly table. I’m here solo, but hopefully I’ll get some fellow morons!
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 29, 2025 11:06 PM (mT+6a)
Can I interest you in a shot of moosemilk?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 11:11 PM (npFr7)
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Good night COMM. JQ, thanks for the Chivas, you are hands down my favorite bar tender!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at November 29, 2025 11:12 PM (0nHVk)
186
VZ is another one of those problems Shrub half assing everything left us.
He could have collapsed the communists there and supported the resistance...but he refused and led to all these years of despotism.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2025 11:12 PM (sKqQm)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 11:12 PM (Wt3Iw)
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Colorado Department of Corrections records show Huling was on parole at the time of the crash, having been arrested in Denver County in 2019 and Arapahoe County in 2015.
Douglas County District Attorney George Brauchler told local outlet Denver 7 that Huling had an 11-page criminal history, dating back to when he was a child.
"This guy’s criminal history and the fact that he appears to have been on parole and this happened seems like we are failing the community,"
There is not 1 single (D) Judge that would put a criminal behind bars to save your life.
Posted by: r hennigantx at November 29, 2025 11:13 PM (gbOdA)
191
7-day forecast here is for it to warm up some tomorrow, and to actually break above freezing Monday-Tuesday.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 11:14 PM (npFr7)
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Porch pirates are another one of those modern problems that would have confused the people a couple of generations ago.
They stop after a few of them get shot right? Wait...no one shoots them? Oh you have cops they just beat them and sent them to jail for a while right? No...they get slaps on the wrist and asked nicely not to do it again? What the hell is wrong with you people in the future?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2025 11:15 PM (sKqQm)
193why would us invade Venezuela?
Posted by: r hennigantx at November 29, 2025 11:05 PM (gbOdA)
1) they are a major transhipment point for cocaine to the US and a financial stream for the Cartels
2) they are a major source of infiltration of Cartel members to the US
3) they are a major source of corrupting money to our politicians
4) they are a major source of cocaine to Europe and Africa
5) they are a major profit center for the European crime, and for the Iranians
6) they are a concentration point for training agents, revolutionaries and other similar sorts
7) they control one end of the waterway into the gulf of America, which has major US ports
the ports on the Mississippi, in Texas and Florida are the only ones not overseen by Democrat state governments
9) They are supporting Cuba - and Rubio has a hardon for Cuba, the surviving Castros and Diaz-Canel
10) they are supporting the drug manufacturing in Colombia, the Narcos there, and the ELN. They also influence Petro's administration
11) Maduro is trying to get a move to invade Guiana to seize oil and gas fields US companies have leased.
12) this does not include serious violations of diplomatic norms against US Allies
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 11:15 PM (rbvCR)
194 There is not 1 single (D) Judge that would put a criminal behind bars to save your life.
Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2025 11:16 PM (sKqQm)
195The videos of porch pirates who grab "exploding" packages, showering them in colored dust or liquid, are certainly BS (AI). But they are funny.
https://tinyurl.com/3ads2d6m
Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 29, 2025 11:12 PM (WG4Tn)
I'm sure many are but I watched this one video where you see the guys building their trap. It released a noxious fart-like spray after about a minute delay from being picked up, so that it was released inside the car. You could see the porch pirates driving away, chucking the box out the window. Pretty funny.
Posted by: RickZ at November 29, 2025 11:16 PM (gKDq2)
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Can I interest you in a shot of moosemilk?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Well. I don’t usually Mix dairy with booze, but if that’s what it takes to get you over here, I’ll try it!
AOP, you’re a gem. When do you head south?
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 29, 2025 11:17 PM (mT+6a)
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This makes for a lot fewer runs back and forth to the compost pile with the bagger.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 29, 2025 11:01 PM (8QVSJ)
Haven't seen our lawn for a month and a half. Lots less work that way.
Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 29, 2025 11:17 PM (6Bc88)
If we deem they are important enough to the cartels destroy their ports and coastal cities.
If a resistance shows up arm them.
But...not a single soldier on VZ ground.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2025 11:17 PM (sKqQm)
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13) they control one end of the gulf of America which is the approach to the Panama canal
14) they are about as efficient as the North Koreans, and about as gentle in their administration of government as Papa Doc Duvalier was.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 11:18 PM (rbvCR)
Posted by: AnchorPoint at November 29, 2025 11:18 PM (XY7MO)
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Is it the personality test from the Parallax corporation?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 29, 2025 11:18 PM (pkeXY)
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What the hell is wrong with you people in the future?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2025 11:15 PM (sKqQm)
You come up on my porch uninvited and you will meet the dark and pointy end of my self protection.
Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 29, 2025 11:19 PM (6Bc88)
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Who nominated him and how did he get selected?
People forget you just don't apply to service academies.
Posted by: RickZ at November 29, 2025 11:11 PM (gKDq2)
let us ask the web
immy Carter was nominated to the U.S. Naval Academy by Congressman Stephen Pace. He initially applied but was not selected on his first attempt, so he studied at Georgia Southwestern College before receiving the appointment.
Posted by: r hennigantx at November 29, 2025 11:19 PM (gbOdA)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2025 11:20 PM (3k5hk)
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Am I still allowed to talk about textualism and New Criticism?
I don't associate those with originalism at all, which seems wedded to The Author(s) and their intention.
Folks should read C.S. Lewis's Experiment in Criticism. The main idea is that instead of judging readers by their books, we should judge books by their readers. If you have read his Christian works, you will recognize the combination of old wisdom with stunning-but-obvious observations.
Also you might be interested in Foucault's "What is an Author?" I don't think he felt too bound by Wimsatt's intentional fallacy. How could he, when he wants everything to be a will to power?
Posted by: pjungwir at November 29, 2025 11:20 PM (uCw0Z)
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102 -- I do my birding from my livingroom. I hung a small platform feeder in a tree I can easily see from my apartment window, and I am amazed at what birds show up. In addition to the ever present sparrows, I've seen male cardinals, downy and hairy woodpeckers, blue jays, and more. The XO bought me three bags of high quality birdseed. I just have to use up this last bag of cheap, red millet infested bird seed. Last week, I caught sight of a strange something on the bird feeder branch. I had just about gotten my binoculars out when it dove to the ground. Hawk. I've managed to create another hawk buffet.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at November 29, 2025 11:21 PM (DK5Sh)
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I am wondering if the "shut down" of the flights in and out of Venezuela are to embargo air shipments of coke to the US and to wherever they ship to Europe and Africa.
Once the go-fast boats stop moving because the crews would rather die on dry land, there is still customer demand and probably some deliveries that have to be made up
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 11:21 PM (rbvCR)
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Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 11:15 PM (rbvCR)
Is that worth boots on the ground
Posted by: r hennigantx at November 29, 2025 11:21 PM (gbOdA)
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AOP, you’re a gem. When do you head south?
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 29, 2025 11:17 PM (mT+6a)
Hopefully before Christmas. Contingent on my medical status. Have an appointment with the cardiologist on Wednesday; he wants to start me on a new anti-arrhythmia med. So I will want to to try that for a while and see how I tolerate it, and if it helps me. FWIW, the faintness episodes have diminished a lot, and I feel pretty well, all things considered.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 11:22 PM (npFr7)
210The main idea is that instead of judging readers by their books, we should judge books by their readers
So those "chick lit" books about women having sex with dinosaurs or minotaurs...what do we learn from their readers?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2025 11:22 PM (sKqQm)
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I'm sure many are but I watched this one video where you see the guys building their trap. It released a noxious fart-like spray after about a minute delay from being picked up, so that it was released inside the car. You could see the porch pirates driving away, chucking the box out the window. Pretty funny.
Posted by: RickZ
Mark Rober. He's on his fifth gen glitter bomb/fart spray invention.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2025 11:23 PM (3k5hk)
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> So those "chick lit" books about women having sex with dinosaurs or minotaurs...what do we learn from their readers?
Posted by: 18-1
Actually he talks about that. :-)
Posted by: pjungwir at November 29, 2025 11:24 PM (uCw0Z)
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Mark Rober. He's on his fifth gen glitter bomb/fart spray invention.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2025 11:23 PM (3k5hk)
I have fart spray in my truck in case I see that pantifa dicks in a blow uup costume.
Posted by: r hennigantx at November 29, 2025 11:25 PM (gbOdA)
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 29, 2025 11:25 PM (cm/D3)
215Is that worth boots on the ground
Posted by: r hennigantx at November 29, 2025 11:21 PM (gbOdA)
No one asked if we should, they just asked why we might.
I am of two minds, one I loved the Venezuelans I knew and Chavez and Maduro have been terrible. I also know that the second we do something directly the Euros, the Brazilians and the Colombians will lose their collective s___, and Petro will lose no time to arm the ELN and other "resistance" to sandbag the US and probably try to invade or disable Panama.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 11:25 PM (rbvCR)
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Ok, I'm Mao.
But the authors comments on Mao are shallow at best.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 11:26 PM (sl73Y)
217Posted by: r hennigantx at November 29, 2025 11:19 PM (gbOdA)
Interesting. So I looked up Pace. Old school Democrat, born in 1891.
He retired from Congress and resumed his legal work in Americus, GA in '51. Americus is 11 miles from Plains. Carter's funeral started in Americus due to his connection to a hospital there.
It's a small world.
Posted by: RickZ at November 29, 2025 11:26 PM (gKDq2)
The point of it was basically "if you noticed that a lot of modern movies seem to have a common underlying message you aren't wrong...its Gnosticism"
And the kicker for it was that they were making a pro-Gnostic video...they then made a positive argument for it and complained modern Christians were suppressing Gnosticism.
The first part they aren't wrong about, Gnostic ideas are common in the post-Christian west. But Christians don't really have the power to suppress anything anymore - look at the jizya we are paying Somalis for example...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2025 11:27 PM (sKqQm)
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Seems to me the ideal "load" for an anti-porch pirate package would be something apparently valuable that they would be very tempted to fence into the criminal underworld for cash.
How about a .45 automatic pistol? Rig it with a restricted barrel, say about .42 caliber, so a bullet will jam in it, and blow the breechblock back forcibly. If the thieves try it themselves, somebody gets hurt, but not likely fatally. If they fence it, and it blows up on somebody else, they wind up getting a beating from the fence's enforcers.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 11:28 PM (npFr7)
222
I also watched some videos about the 3 Body Problem and there was an interesting nugget in it.
Some SPOILERS if you don't want to know some of the ideas in the show...
But the author argues that war between sentient species is likely because while resources in the universe are vast in terms of constant growth there will always eventually be a conflict no matter how benign those civilizations want to be.
And completely turning away from SF to the real world...I think this is very accurate Chinese view of geopolitics. For China to get stronger...the US has to get weaker.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2025 11:31 PM (sKqQm)
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DDS, thanks. It was an experience...but now I have a very solid plan for Christmas...it's a trip to take a full holiday "on the road." We spent Friday decorating MIL's apt for Christmas...she's still discovering things we installed....
Posted by: The Grateful at November 29, 2025 11:31 PM (IQ6Gq)
224
Porch pirates plus command detonated claymore mines from the other night. Go ahead and cross the streams.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 29, 2025 11:32 PM (8QVSJ)
225
Absolutely fascinating, bone-chilling interview. Those Dominion voting machines feature prominently. Their placement is strategic, limited, and very curious. So is who supplied their chips.
How Patriots and White Hat Hackers Saved the 20204 Election from Getting Stolen
https://tinyurl.com/48bwc4rt
Posted by: Sam Adams at November 29, 2025 11:32 PM (X+xvk)
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Gnosticism is about hidden knowledge that can only be revealed through a process of understanding that allows the student to not misunderstand the message.
Which sounds well and good, but implies that God is hiding s___ from us on purpose, and his Creation requires a rentier class of theological teachers to achieve enlightenment, which as a Protestant I object to.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 11:33 PM (rbvCR)
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Porch pirate adjacent. Scampywife is the office prankster. Her latest: they give the hunters a goody bag. Jerky, candy, etc. She emptied out small, snack size Cheetos bags, filled them with baby carrots, and resealed. The boys have revenge on their minds.
Posted by: scamoydog - likes the nic error at November 29, 2025 11:33 PM (41CYW)
228The main idea is that instead of judging readers by their books, we should judge books by their readers.
Posted by: pjungwir at November 29, 2025 11:20 PM (uCw0Z)
That's not true. Without reading 'verboten' books like Mein Kampf, one cannot fully appreciate History.
Just because one reads a book doesn't mean they support every idea in that book. Even Shakespeare would have a tough time surviving that critique. How can one debate ideas if you don't know what the idea is?
Posted by: RickZ at November 29, 2025 11:33 PM (gKDq2)
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Snowblower was working reqat -- until I sucked a piece of downspout into the auger. It's in there tight. Has anyone taken apart the auger end of a snowblower?
Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 29, 2025 11:35 PM (iHFID)
230Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 11:28 PM (npFr7)
Did you know that if I have a firearm stolen from me in Oregon, I may be investigated to see if I am at fault for failure to secure the firearm correctly?
Because that is justice.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 11:35 PM (rbvCR)
231
The tests say I'm Putin and Carter, if anyone is keeping track of how crazy the Horde is.
Posted by: mikeski at November 29, 2025 11:35 PM (XGULh)
Posted by: the way I see it at November 29, 2025 11:35 PM (KDPiq)
233Just because one reads a book doesn't mean they support every idea in that book. Even Shakespeare would have a tough time surviving that critique. How can one debate ideas if you don't know what the idea is?
Posted by: RickZ at November 29, 2025 11:33 PM (gKDq2)
This argument got me called "troll-adjacent"
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 11:36 PM (rbvCR)
Posted by: browndog being presidential at November 29, 2025 11:37 PM (3sXRv)
236Which sounds well and good, but implies that God is hiding s___ from us
Well, continuing with Gnostic theology, God isn't really God. The entity we think of as God is the Demiurge a very imperfect creator.
He's generally intentionally hiding an understand of reality from us for various levels of nefarious reasons...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2025 11:39 PM (sKqQm)
237This argument got me called "troll-adjacent"
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 11:36 PM (rbvCR)
I am getting a little hairy.
But I have to ask why would one think that?
Just because every high schooler read 'Sir Gawain and the Green Knight' doesn't mean we're all out hunting Grendl.
Posted by: RickZ at November 29, 2025 11:40 PM (gKDq2)
238
If we could make a space ship that could travel at
60 million mph it would take over 40 years to reach the closest star.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 29, 2025 11:40 PM (KDPiq)
239
Snowblower was working reqat -- until I sucked a piece of downspout into the auger. It's in there tight. Has anyone taken apart the auger end of a snowblower?
Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 29, 2025 11:35 PM (iHFID)
I can tell you my snowblower has shear pins for each side of the auger, to prevent the gearbox from being damaged in the event of such happening. You might look for shear pins; they ought to be 6 mm or quarter-inch bolts going though the auger axle at points near the middle. If you remove them, then you can turn each half of the auger backwards, and probably extract the mangled downspout. My last trip out with mine, I hit a garden hose, and sheared one of the shear pins.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 11:40 PM (npFr7)
240
He's generally intentionally hiding an understand of reality from us for various levels of nefarious reasons...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2025 11:39 PM (sKqQm)
Gnostics = Hidden Knowledge
-Heresy flash cards
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 11:41 PM (bss/y)
241
The North Star is about 450 light years away.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 29, 2025 11:35 PM (KDPiq)
So unlikely to be contributing to Global Warming.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 11:42 PM (npFr7)
242Just because one reads a book doesn't mean they support every idea in that book.
Nowadays this is an explicitly right wing idea. Lefties will tell you that you shouldn't read a book or listen to a person if you don't agree with their politics.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2025 11:42 PM (sKqQm)
243
gnosticism is exhausting because you not only have to track the datum world, but also detect and figure in the distortions created by the demi-urge, and then find the corrections to see the ideal world.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 11:43 PM (rbvCR)
244
Here's a question for the horde...but no googling it.
Where does the animal turkey originally come. And why is it called a turkey?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2025 11:43 PM (sKqQm)
245
The President quiz must be right. I'm Carter because I'm compulsive.
But I'm only 83% Carter, so I got 1 of the 6 "OCD" questions wrong, and that bothers me.
QED.
Posted by: mikeski at November 29, 2025 11:43 PM (XGULh)
246
The plan to steal a Confederate train,
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The hanging of the Yankees is still celebrated in Kennesaw, and The General locomotive is carefully preserved and displayed.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 29, 2025 11:44 PM (XeU6L)
If I answer from memory I'm going to mess it up (and I have kids to put to bed), but if you email me I'll send something once I'm home from the in-laws. But even better, just read it. It's short and full of insights. I should read it again myself.
Posted by: pjungwir at November 29, 2025 11:44 PM (uCw0Z)
248Nowadays this is an explicitly right wing idea. Lefties will tell you that you shouldn't read a book or listen to a person if you don't agree with their politics.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2025 11:42 PM (sKqQm)
That's why they can't debate as their breadth of knowledge is incredibly shallow.
They can only cheat to win.
Posted by: RickZ at November 29, 2025 11:44 PM (gKDq2)
249
Just like I appreciate others for reading the DU and relay their latest psychopathic rants , I have no intention of ever reading it or any other claptrap.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 29, 2025 11:45 PM (KDPiq)
250
Where does the animal turkey originally come. And why is it called a turkey?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2025 11:43 PM (sKqQm)
Because its feathers were used for stuffing Ottomans?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 11:45 PM (npFr7)
251
248 Just because one reads a book doesn't mean they support every idea in that book.
Preach it! I nearly got in big trouble for just doing a little research.
Posted by: Pete Townsend at November 29, 2025 11:45 PM (oftw2)
252Because its feathers were used for stuffing Ottomans?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 11:45 PM (npFr7)
Stupid Ottomans. Eat the bird. Preferably with gravy.
Posted by: RickZ at November 29, 2025 11:46 PM (gKDq2)
253Just because every high schooler read 'Sir Gawain and the Green Knight' doesn't mean we're all out hunting Grendl.
Posted by: RickZ at November 29, 2025 11:40 PM (gKDq2)
well, no, because they are different stories from different cultures chasing different concepts of heroism.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 11:47 PM (rbvCR)
254
Where does the animal turkey originally come. And why is it called a turkey?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2025 11:43 PM (sKqQm)
American Turkey named after the country Turkey who was a main trading market for African Guinea birds which resemble our Turkey.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 29, 2025 11:47 PM (KDPiq)
255
I'm Putin also. There are a lot of putins here...
256 That's why they can't debate as their breadth of knowledge is incredibly shallow.
They can only cheat to win.
I've been noticing of late when I go to center or left leaning forums 90% or more of the posts on the stories of the day are right wing.
News articles from MA were most people are arguing "deport them all!" or CA where people are calling Newsom a crook and asking for their Senators to be arrested and on and on...
I get that Newsmax or Free Republic or here or whatever are going to be right leaning. But if most comments on FNM stories are right leaning...? Or sites like Farcebook?
How then does one explain the claimed vote totals?
Massive fraud seems a not unreasonable anwser...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2025 11:49 PM (sKqQm)
I can tell you my snowblower has shear pins for each side of the auger, to prevent the gearbox from being damaged in the event of such happening. You might look for shear pins; they ought to be 6 mm or quarter-inch bolts going though the auger axle at points near the middle. If you remove them, then you can turn each half of the auger backwards, and probably extract the mangled downspout. My last trip out with mine, I hit a garden hose, and sheared one of the shear pins.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 11:40 PM (npFr7)
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That's a great idea! Much less disassembly that way. Fingers crossed. The short length of downspout is wrapped around the shaft in the center, right up to the impeller. So, it is possible that the downspout is covering shear pins. It's been a while since I screwed up this badly. I'll have a look before I go to bed. Thank you!
Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 29, 2025 11:49 PM (RNxyR)
258 Once the go-fast boats stop moving because the crews would rather die on dry land, there is still customer demand and probably some deliveries that have to be made up
Posted by: Kindltot
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I wonder how long it will be before street addicts feel the pinch.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at November 29, 2025 11:50 PM (n7rxJ)
259
Where does the animal turkey originally come. And why is it called a turkey?
Posted by: 18-1
Where? Dinosaurs.
Why? No idea.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2025 11:51 PM (3k5hk)
260I wonder how long it will be before street addicts feel the pinch.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at November 29, 2025 11:50 PM (n7rxJ)
Lord, imagine LA if all the junkies start hurting.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 11:52 PM (rbvCR)
But...not a single soldier on VZ ground.
Posted by: 18-1
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Drones, swarms of dragonfly drones.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 11:55 PM (Wt3Iw)
266
That's a great idea! Much less disassembly that way. Fingers crossed. The short length of downspout is wrapped around the shaft in the center, right up to the impeller. So, it is possible that the downspout is covering shear pins. It's been a while since I screwed up this badly. I'll have a look before I go to bed. Thank you!
Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 29, 2025 11:49 PM (RNxyR)
If you have some compound-action tin snips (like Wiss), you might just be able to cut it out of there.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 11:56 PM (npFr7)
267Seeing sub $2.00 gas all over Oklahoma. $1.87 to $1.99
Posted by: rickb223 at November 29, 2025 11:54 PM (3k5hk)
That is just about $2.00 cheaper than Oregon.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 11:56 PM (rbvCR)
268I'm Putin also. There are a lot of putins here...
Posted by: lin-duh
He's the "logical, introverted" answer. I'm surprised we aren't all Putin.
Posted by: mikeski at November 29, 2025 11:56 PM (XGULh)
269
Wild Turkeys are native to North America. Why they are called that I do not know.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 29, 2025 11:57 PM (6p0Jv)
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266 I wonder how long it will be before street addicts feel the pinch.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at November 29, 2025 11:50 PM (n7r
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For the heck of it; I asked chatGPT. It was "humble" enough to admit it doesn't have current prices
Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 29, 2025 11:58 PM (9qZ8R)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 11:58 PM (npFr7)
272
That's why they can't debate as their breadth of knowledge is incredibly shallow.
Posted by: RickZ
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I had an AWFL say to me, 'I learned all of the history that I need to know from Howard Zinn'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 29, 2025 11:58 PM (XeU6L)
273 What the hell happened in Stockton CA?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey
The Big Valley
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 29, 2025 11:59 PM (pkeXY)
274
Ol' Ben Franklin wanted the turkey as the US Bird, not the eagle. One reasoning was it was an American bird. Besides, eagles have been done to death. Ben lost the argument.
Posted by: RickZ at November 29, 2025 11:59 PM (gKDq2)
Turkeys are native to north America and in fact the Aztecs domesticated them. The Spanish ended up bringing them back to Europe and from their they were imported to places like England (which also calls them Turkeys)
"the way I see it" gets the naming story correct
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:01 AM (sKqQm)
276
wild tom turkeys heads are red, white and blue
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 12:01 AM (rbvCR)
277 If you have some compound-action tin snips (like Wiss), you might just be able to cut it out of there.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 11:56 PM (npFr7
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I will look around to see what's here. . I cut off some with regular snips, but it gets cramped for workspace..Need longer.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 30, 2025 12:01 AM (9qZ8R)
278I had an AWFL say to me, 'I learned all of the history that I need to know from Howard Zinn'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 29, 2025 11:58 PM (XeU6L)
Time for that old chestnut: 'Tell me you didn't learn any History thing without telling me you didn't learn any History'.
Posted by: RickZ at November 30, 2025 12:02 AM (gKDq2)
279
Ol' Ben Franklin wanted the turkey as the US Bird, not the eagle. One reasoning was it was an American bird. Besides, eagles have been done to death. Ben lost the argument.
Posted by: RickZ at November 29, 2025 11:59 PM (gKDq2)
Prolly just as well. If they were the National Bird, they'd be protected, and we couldn't eat them. Have to eat eagles instead.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 12:02 AM (npFr7)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 30, 2025 12:03 AM (9ipOP)
281Prolly just as well. If they were the National Bird, they'd be protected, and we couldn't eat them. Have to eat eagles instead.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 12:02 AM (npFr7)
I would have gone with roast beef myself. Slightly better than a scrawny eagle all the way around. And you can still have gravy.
Posted by: RickZ at November 30, 2025 12:04 AM (gKDq2)
282
In Spanish, Turkeys are called "pavos" and peacocks are called "pavo reales" (or Royal Turkeys)
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 12:04 AM (rbvCR)
283 Lord, imagine LA if all the junkies start hurting.
Posted by: Kindltot
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Rehab centers, jails, and hospitals filling up.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at November 30, 2025 12:05 AM (n7rxJ)
284
Well, played the entire CD, no skips. Listened to some jazz on the FM, until it started to become tedious, back to the thumb drive. Music of Earl King, good stuff. Got that New Orleans roll to it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 12:06 AM (npFr7)
285
why has anybody ever thought caving was a fun hobby?
Posted by: n at November 30, 2025 12:06 AM (HhhAg)
286
Turkeys aren't likely to drop a dead cat through my windshield. Advantage Team Turkey.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 30, 2025 12:07 AM (6p0Jv)
287Rehab centers, jails, and hospitals filling up.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone at November 30, 2025 12:05 AM (n7rxJ)
Legions of the semi-___ed ups staggering through the city, howling, drooling, cramping, blowing snot, sweating and puking.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 12:07 AM (rbvCR)
288
now we have many alternative, substitutes for narcotics.
Posted by: n at November 30, 2025 12:07 AM (HhhAg)
289
My dinner tonight was pork roast done in the crockpot, with baby potatoes and turnip chunks. Was good, still a lot left.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 12:07 AM (npFr7)
290 why has anybody ever thought caving was a fun hobby?
Posted by: n at November 30, 2025 12:06 AM (HhhAg)
The GOPe make it seem effortless!
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 12:08 AM (rbvCR)
Posted by: n at November 30, 2025 12:08 AM (HhhAg)
292
now we have many alternative, substitutes for narcotics.
Posted by: n at November 30, 2025 12:07 AM (HhhAg)
115 grains of lead cures all the cravings.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 12:09 AM (npFr7)
293now we have many alternative, substitutes for narcotics.
Posted by: n at November 30, 2025 12:07 AM (HhhAg)
A bud of mine was put on a maintenance dose of oral morphine for chronic, service-related pain by the VA, and then they told him that there was a shortage of oral morphine because it was being given out to the street junkies in certain large cities instead, due to the problems with Fentanyl killing so many of them, and he wound up on Vicodin.
I am not sure there is enough alternatives to meet the needs of the major US cities.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 12:11 AM (rbvCR)
294why has anybody ever thought caving was a fun hobby?
Posted by: n at November 30, 2025 12:06 AM (HhhAg)
I spelunked in college. Glad I did it. Haven't done it since. It's one of those 'check the life experience box and move on' for me.
Posted by: RickZ at November 30, 2025 12:12 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: no one at November 30, 2025 12:12 AM (GLn15)
296
A bud of mine was put on a maintenance dose of oral morphine for chronic, service-related pain by the VA, and then they told him that there was a shortage of oral morphine because it was being given out to the street junkies in certain large cities instead, due to the problems with Fentanyl killing so many of them, and he wound up on Vicodin.
I am not sure there is enough alternatives to meet the needs of the major US cities.
Posted by
oddly, its reassuring to know we have the ability to manage small things anymore
Posted by: n at November 30, 2025 12:13 AM (ndLSM)
297
Going through a cave big enough to stand in is cool.
Crawling through a crevice you got get stuck in sounds like torture.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:13 AM (sKqQm)
yeah, the national geographic version not xhub or whatever it is
Posted by: n at November 30, 2025 12:14 AM (ndLSM)
299
I'm actually a bit surprised we haven't come farther with synthetic narcotics without the immediate physical problems most current drugs come with.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:14 AM (sKqQm)
300
I love going spelunking with the boys whenever I can
Posted by: Pete Bootyjuice at November 30, 2025 12:15 AM (sKqQm)
301
I'm actually a bit surprised we haven't come farther with synthetic narcotics without the immediate physical problems most current drugs come with.
Posted by: 18-1
we should be glad they have not given the propensity for wasting time and avoiding discomfort so many have
Posted by: n at November 30, 2025 12:16 AM (HxRq4)
302
Going through a cave big enough to stand in is cool.
Crawling through a crevice you got get stuck in sounds like torture.
Posted by: 18-1
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This.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 30, 2025 12:17 AM (6p0Jv)
303
>>He's the "logical, introverted" answer. I'm surprised we aren't all Putin.
I was called a Putin lover at the start of this idiotic war long before it was fashionable to be called a Putin lover because the shit the media told everyone what was going on was always a lie.
Putin is a murderous thug. It's kind of silly to pretend he is the only one in this disaster.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 30, 2025 12:18 AM (viF8m)
304Going through a cave big enough to stand in is cool.
Crawling through a crevice you got get stuck in sounds like torture.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 30, 2025 12:13 AM (sKqQm)
Crevices weren't so bad. It was this 10-15 foot tunnel squeeze in this one cave that forced this thought into my head as I'm crawling on my back looking up at a shitton of rock: 'Please, God, don't let the earth hiccup.'
I'd be like those sub tourists going down to see the Titanic: I'd be instantly atomized. It does put things into some perspective.
Posted by: RickZ at November 30, 2025 12:23 AM (gKDq2)
305
I guess as someone who studied Russian, I shouldn't have been surprised to come out as Stalin.
Posted by: tankascribe at November 30, 2025 12:24 AM (NtoJk)
306
Nutty Putty Cave. Had to look it up. What an awful way to die.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 30, 2025 12:24 AM (6p0Jv)
Posted by: n at November 30, 2025 12:25 AM (ndLSM)
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288 In Spanish, Turkeys are called "pavos" and peacocks are called "pavo reales" (or Royal Turkeys)
Posted by: Kindltot at November 30, 2025 12:04 AM (rbvCR)
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What's American for pavo jivée?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 30, 2025 12:26 AM (JkO4W)
I was in a spot at the time it happened, when I was really busy feeling sorry for myself about a situation I was in. I wish now I had known about Nutty Putty while is was going on, so I could have maybe gotten some perspective.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 30, 2025 12:26 AM (uZFV0)
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Oh, and I was crazy enough to go into that cave four or five times. But then I stopped. Never looked back.
This cave near college was famous for a waterfall, I don't know, a good half-a-mile to a mile down. A trickle stream waterfall. That was the 'goal'. Saw a few interesting tiny blind critters in the water.
When you got past the cave entrance and turned off your lights, it was pitch black, blacker than any black I've ever experienced. You could put your hand five inches from your face and not see it.
Posted by: RickZ at November 30, 2025 12:31 AM (gKDq2)
312
Albert Speer and Carter. I'm obviously messed up. I have been stuck inside with snowmaggeden though
Posted by: Badgergal at November 30, 2025 12:32 AM (cs22I)
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 30, 2025 12:33 AM (uZFV0)
314
A friend died in a cave-in. Pretty much ended any desire on my part to go caving.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 30, 2025 12:33 AM (XeU6L)
315
Legions of the semi-___ed ups staggering through the city, howling, drooling, cramping, blowing snot, sweating and puking.
Posted by: Kindltot
Rodney Dangerfield said that it's tough to be funny when you're comin' off the drugs.
Posted by: Jones Comin' Down... at November 30, 2025 12:34 AM (oftw2)
316
I think about that pitch black when I think about the guys who survived Pearl Harbor only to die because they couldn't be rescued from capsized ships, and those like them. Total pitch black. The horror. Like I said, perspective.
Posted by: RickZ at November 30, 2025 12:34 AM (gKDq2)
317
Another Mussolini. An alternate ending from his would be cool.
Posted by: mot at November 30, 2025 12:34 AM (fIPNY)
318
Sorry I'm late, I was looking for my back issues of Compute! Magazine...
"If you are at Club ONT's Proxima Centauri location and you are waiting for drink delivery from earth, please be patient. Old copies of Compute! Magazine are in the lobby for you to read while you wait."
...I now have a few questions.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 30, 2025 12:36 AM (ZeT+w)
319
Trying to be less of a lurker but I read the site daily. Since before LGF went crazy. I'm a pathetically slow typer
Posted by: Badgergal at November 30, 2025 12:36 AM (cs22I)
320RickZ, you were inside of Nutty Putty?
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 30, 2025 12:33 AM (uZFV0)
Nah. This was a cave near Va Tech. Not a big touristy cave, and there were a number of those in western Virginia. Caves where cavers went. This was near school and pretty much only students went there. Saw graffiti with dates like 1911 and such, when the school was a military college. And 'taking care of the environment' was not a thing.
Posted by: RickZ at November 30, 2025 12:38 AM (gKDq2)
321
Apparently, I'm just like Joseph Stalin. Those tests are stupid...
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at November 30, 2025 12:39 AM (a1AGi)
322A friend died in a cave-in. Pretty much ended any desire on my part to go caving.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 30, 2025 12:33 AM (XeU6L)
That'll do it.
I've never wanted to jump out of a perfectly good airplane. Too many horror stories for my liking.
Posted by: RickZ at November 30, 2025 12:40 AM (gKDq2)
323
Welcome, Badgergal! Pull up a stool here at the bar & let me make a drink for you. What'll it be?
I've been just reading along tonight... don't really have anything to add re: politics, and spelunking just ain't my thing. But the discussions are interesting!
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 12:41 AM (rdVOm)
324
327 Trying to be less of a lurker but I read the site daily. Since before LGF went crazy. I'm a pathetically slow typer
Posted by: Badgergal at November 30, 2025 12:36 AM (cs22I)
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It's a fine first effort. I'll look forward to your next comment a year or two from now.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 30, 2025 12:41 AM (JkO4W)
325
RickZ, I was also reading about DB Cooper lately.
Looks like he did not survive. The money he stole was never spent.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 30, 2025 12:41 AM (uZFV0)
326
Where does the animal turkey originally come. And why is it called a turkey?
Posted by: 18-1
Where? Dinosaurs.
Why? No idea.
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Turkeys are descended from velociraptors. They even exhibit the same hunting behaviors.
Posted by: _.-=* The More You Know at November 30, 2025 12:42 AM (FcvI3)
327
Another Wisconsinite. I believe there are enough to do a minimome
Posted by: Badgergal at November 30, 2025 12:43 AM (cs22I)
328Trying to be less of a lurker but I read the site daily. Since before LGF went crazy. I'm a pathetically slow typer
Posted by: Badgergal at November 30, 2025 12:36 AM (cs22I)
The mouthier you get, improved typing comes with it.
Posted by: RickZ at November 30, 2025 12:43 AM (gKDq2)
329
283
If you have some compound-action tin snips (like Wiss), you might just be able to cut it out of there.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 11:56 PM (npFr7
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I will look around to see what's here. . I cut off some with regular snips, but it gets cramped for workspace..Need longer.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 30, 2025 12:01 AM (9qZ8R)
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Went for a look. Great news -- the augers are held by Cotter pins in the middle of the blades. Accessible. I tried pulling one out, failed. Took a closer look and it seems to be a "secure" cotter pin, a type i haven't seen. The long free end is turned back on itself so it could never slip out or be pulled out. I'll have to cut it or bend it. It's almost midnight here, so i'm going to get a fresh start tomorrow.
I was hoping that you or JQ would come to my rescue. Thanks.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 30, 2025 12:44 AM (L/JnU)
330
Ok, I'm Mao.
But the authors comments on Mao are shallow at best.
OO Mao mao umma oo mao ma mao
Posted by: Everybody knows the word at November 30, 2025 12:44 AM (N7hqt)
331
327 Trying to be less of a lurker but I read the site daily. Since before LGF went crazy. I'm a pathetically slow typer
Posted by: Badgergal
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Hi Badgergal. I remember reading this site back in the day also. This place has made me laugh for many years now.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 30, 2025 12:45 AM (6p0Jv)
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337 Trying to be less of a lurker but I read the site daily. Since before LGF went crazy. I'm a pathetically slow typer
Posted by: Badgergal at November 30, 2025 12:36 AM (cs22I)
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Do you have the option to use the microphone for voice to text? Makes errors but can be much faster than typing.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 30, 2025 12:46 AM (L/JnU)
Posted by: Badgergal at November 30, 2025 12:46 AM (cs22I)
334
A friend died in a cave-in. Pretty much ended any desire on my part to go caving.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
Some guys die in the middle of sex spelunking.
Posted by: Megan Marshack at November 30, 2025 12:47 AM (N7hqt)
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334 Where does the animal turkey originally come. And why is it called a turkey?
Posted by: 18-1
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As an indigenous American bird, the turkey had no exact equivalent in the Old World. So someone decided that it looked enough like the turkey fowl (or guinea fowl, which was thought to hail from actual Turkey) to use the name.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 30, 2025 12:48 AM (0RiMX)
336
JM in Illinois-- I've neither owned, nor operated, a snow-thrower. Ever. (and I'm just an amateur what plays at mechanics anyhow)
Glad AOP is here!
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 12:49 AM (rdVOm)
337
342 Such a collection of learned and witty people
Posted by: Badgergal at November 30, 2025 12:46 AM (cs22I)
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Knowledge will get you far here, but knowledge and a pithy comment about boobs will seal the deal.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 30, 2025 12:50 AM (0RiMX)
338
I've done a number of things some people would consider adventures, but I went to one spelunker's meeting. They had a slide show. I left and never looked back.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 30, 2025 12:50 AM (L/JnU)
Did Benjamin Franklin really propose that the American emblematic bird should be the turkey, not the eagle?
Posted by: History at the late Nite Miklos Tiki Bar at November 30, 2025 12:50 AM (N7hqt)
340
Good night Horde, I still feel tired after the day of Thanksgiving, so off to bed I go.
Leaves JQ a generous tip and notices the flyer for the Club Christmas party.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at November 30, 2025 12:51 AM (0nHVk)
341
Megan Marshack must have been well-paid. Haven't heard a word from her in 50 years.
Posted by: Money Changes Everything at November 30, 2025 12:53 AM (oftw2)
342
We've sent $180 billion to Ukraine for this war. And there has never been an audit of where the money went. In fact, every time one has been asked for it has been defeated. Nobody has a fucking clue where all the money went.
Yesterday, Zelensky's Chief of Staff, the guy who was designated to negotiate the end of this idiotic war, resigned after his home was raided over corruption issues. Billions of our tax dollars have been laundered through this idiotic war and much of it went to the people who voted to send it to Ukraine so they could stay in power.
Nobody will care in a day or two because the vaccine scandal fight will take over the media.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 30, 2025 12:54 AM (viF8m)
343 Glad AOP is here!
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 12:49 AM (rdVO
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But if you had a snowblower, seems a good bet you'd be working on it or anything else that needs fixin'.
Good night, good people.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 30, 2025 12:54 AM (L/JnU)
344The videos of porch pirates who grab "exploding" packages, showering them in colored dust or liquid, are certainly BS (AI). But they are funny.
https://tinyurl.com/3ads2d6m
Posted by: JM in Illinois[/i
There I was, quickly getting caught up on comments, when JM's link to YooToob shorts sends me down a rabbit hole of many such AI vids, and of course others.
345
Did Benjamin Franklin really propose that the American emblematic bird should be the turkey, not the eagle?
Posted by: History at the late Nite Miklos Tiki Bar at November 30, 2025 12:50 AM (N7hqt)
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This is true. The turkey is both majestic and resolute. You don't want to tangle with a turkey.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 30, 2025 12:55 AM (sF9Ts)
346
In Budapest, you can do cave diving in the middle of the city.
And people do that.
Budapest sits on top of a labyrinth of underground springs, rivers. and lakes.
Posted by: FUN FACTS for the Risk Takers at November 30, 2025 12:55 AM (N7hqt)
347
Once the go-fast boats stop moving because the crews would rather die on dry land, there is still customer demand and probably some deliveries that have to be made up
Posted by: Kindltot
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I wonder how long it will be before street addicts feel the pinch.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone
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More porch piracy and good deals at the pawn shop.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 30, 2025 12:58 AM (Z5/Ih)
348
Once the go-fast boats stop moving because the crews would rather die on dry land, there is still customer demand and probably some deliveries that have to be made up
Posted by: Kindltot
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I wonder how long it will be before street addicts feel the pinch.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's Phone
The delivery drivers seem much more polite these last few days
Posted by: Miklosian Observations at November 30, 2025 01:02 AM (N7hqt)
349
'Night, Debby! Sleep well, and thank you very much for the tip.
Club Christmas party... oh, I'd better get on with the decoratin' LOL
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 01:02 AM (rdVOm)
350
Just watched a video: "3 reasons why you can't wear a dress to the gym."
Posted by: qdpsteve
spel it rite
Posted by: Pretty Jim, ready for a work-out at November 30, 2025 01:03 AM (N7hqt)
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 01:05 AM (rdVOm)
352
'Night, Debby! Sleep well, and thank you very much for the tip.
Club Christmas party... oh, I'd better get on with the decoratin' LOL
Posted by: JQ
Who will deal with the New Year's hangovers?
Damn
As usual
Posted by: Less Genial bartender Miklos at November 30, 2025 01:05 AM (N7hqt)
353
Club Christmas party... oh, I'd better get on with the decoratin' LOL
Posted by: JQ
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*sends JQ some garland and an Elf on the Shelf to monitor the Horde's shenanigans*
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 30, 2025 01:05 AM (6p0Jv)
354
*sends JQ some garland and an Elf on the Shelf to monitor the Horde's shenanigans*
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary
*moves that Monitor Elf to the Ladies' restroom*
Posted by: Miklos puts on some Chuck Berry at November 30, 2025 01:07 AM (N7hqt)
355
I put up my lil tabletop Christmas tree tonight. Got a dozen or so ornaments on it.. that's enough.
Need to send that pic of the ornaments to TRex for a hobby thread. They're all hand-made, though not by me.
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 01:07 AM (rdVOm)
356
Elf on the Shelf will get put right on top of the cash register, LOL! Keep an eye on alla youse Morons.
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 01:10 AM (rdVOm)
357
*moves that Monitor Elf to the Ladies' restroom*
Posted by: Miklos puts on some Chuck Berry
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Poor Elf will never unsee that horror. Ladies' restrooms are not so nice.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 30, 2025 01:11 AM (6p0Jv)
358 167 why would us invade Venezuela?
Posted by: r hennigantx at November 29, 2025 11:05 PM
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Maybe the idea is to get them to think it's coming, rather than actually do it.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 30, 2025 01:13 AM (VWtfl)
359
Need to send that pic of the ornaments to TRex for a hobby thread. They're all hand-made, though not by me.
Posted by: JQ
Do they have tiny "help me" inscriptions in Chinese or Uygur?
Posted by: Miklos is juat asking at November 30, 2025 01:13 AM (N7hqt)
360
If I wanted to be *mean*-- I'd add a motion sensor & slightly-time-delayed laugh-track to Elf and place it in the mens' room, above the urinals. Heh.
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 01:14 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 30, 2025 01:14 AM (6p0Jv)
362
Next up on the fixit list: a Chinesium "high bay" LED light from Princess Auto that was DOA. Turned out to be a broken wire/bad solder joint between the picofuse and the center button on the Edison base. I broke the wires free, and tested the lamp with a death cord. Lit up brilliantly. So drilled through the button and shell with a pin drill, threaded wires through the holes, and soldered them to the button and shell, then solder-spliced the wires to the stumps coming off the circuit board. I now have a working lamp. Dazzled my eyeballs pretty good, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 01:15 AM (npFr7)
363
312 I guess as someone who studied Russian, I shouldn't have been surprised to come out as Stalin.
Posted by: tankascribe
What a brutal language. The grammar, the cases. Lord.
Posted by: Sam Adams at November 30, 2025 01:15 AM (X+xvk)
364
My #353 - Pixy's Barrel-avoidance code saves me again.
365
I'd add a motion sensor & slightly-time-delayed laugh-track to Elf and place it in the mens' room, above the urinals. Heh.
Posted by: JQ
Error
Urinal is singular, not plural
For guys
Posted by: Guys love the Great Outdoors at November 30, 2025 01:16 AM (N7hqt)
366
Do they have tiny "help me" inscriptions in Chinese or Uygur?
Posted by: Miklos is juat asking
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Maybe they did, on the tags.. but I cut those off. They were *made in chy-nah* but obviously hand-painted and
-assembled (probably by children)
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 01:17 AM (rdVOm)
367
I guess as someone who studied Russian, I shouldn't have been surprised to come out as Stalin.
Posted by: tankascribe
What a brutal language. The grammar, the cases. Lord.
Posted by: Sam Adams
The words for "red" and "beautiful" only work if the girl is both pretty and a ginger
Bit of a tongue twister for the non-Slavic
Posted by: Miklosov and the Horde Cries Out! for Uncle Palp at November 30, 2025 01:20 AM (N7hqt)
368
Went for a look. Great news -- the augers are held by Cotter pins in the middle of the blades. Accessible. I tried pulling one out, failed. Took a closer look and it seems to be a "secure" cotter pin, a type i haven't seen. The long free end is turned back on itself so it could never slip out or be pulled out. I'll have to cut it or bend it. It's almost midnight here, so i'm going to get a fresh start tomorrow.
I was hoping that you or JQ would come to my rescue. Thanks.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 30, 2025 12:44 AM (L/JnU)
Cotter pins, or "R pins"? The latter are commonly seen retaining the pins that hold you trailer hitch into the receiver. Look like a fancy capital letter "R", with the squiggly side making two near-approaches to the straight side. There is a locking variant of those, too. Cotter pins, aka "split pins" are soft steel, and are meant to be secured by bending the free ends back. They are a one-time use item by design, but sometimes you can get away with reusing them. R pins are intended to be installed and removed repeatedly.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 01:26 AM (npFr7)
369
The words for "red" and "beautiful" only work if the girl is both pretty and a ginger
Bit of a tongue twister for the non-Slavic
Posted by: Miklosov and the Horde Cries Out! for Uncle Palp
Ha!
Would love to know just how many languages you speak, and your employment history. Kind of doubt you'd be forthcoming.
Posted by: Sam Adams at November 30, 2025 01:26 AM (X+xvk)
Posted by: Sam Adams at November 30, 2025 01:35 AM (X+xvk)
377
AOP, I think JM in Illinois might be referring to "spring locking" cotter pins?
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 01:30 AM (rdVOm)
Not sure. Myself, I want to see soft steel in that role, something that will shear easily if subjected to an overload. Cotter pin, Grade 2 bolt, etc. I'd much sooner replace the odd ones that fails from normal wear and tear than have to replace the gear box if a hardened steel "shear pin" fails to shear under an impact.
They are like fuses for torque. Outboard motor propellers also have them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 01:35 AM (npFr7)
378
337 The mouthier you get, improved typing comes with it.
Posted by: RickZ at November 30, 2025 12:43 AM (gKDq2)
When does the improved typing take place? (Asking for a tormented copy editor.)
Posted by: tankdemon at November 30, 2025 01:36 AM (ZeT+w)
379
красивый красный крекер.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
Ok, except for the dzsevchina part
Posted by: Cracker Stakhavov Miklosov is now to SLEEP to exceed Plan of SLEEP QUOTA at November 30, 2025 01:37 AM (N7hqt)
380
We have some very, very interesting personalities on this site. As with Miklos, I would ask, doubt you'd answer.
Posted by: Sam Adams at November 30, 2025 01:37 AM (X+xvk)
381
Yeah, understand the concept of shear pinning.
It's just that... what JM described... seemed like some kind of clevis thing. Which doesn't make sense to me, for that application. Unless it's a soft metal. $pecialty part?
Hope he updates us tomorrow!
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 01:39 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Miklos thinks Uncle Palp would back me up on this at November 30, 2025 01:40 AM (N7hqt)
383
355 In Budapest, you can do cave diving in the middle of the city.
And people do that.
Budapest sits on top of a labyrinth of underground springs, rivers. and lakes.
Posted by: FUN FACTS for the Risk Takers at November 30, 2025 12:55 AM (N7hqt)
There are still people who go to explore the catacombs of Paris and are never seen again...
Posted by: tankdemon at November 30, 2025 01:40 AM (ZeT+w)
384
At least three commenters here, all fluent in Russki.
Miklos, I read that sign-off in my best Boris Badinov voice. Made it even funnier.
Posted by: Sam Adams at November 30, 2025 01:41 AM (X+xvk)
385Would love to know just how many languages you speak, and your employment history. Kind of doubt you'd be forthcoming.
Posted by: Sam Adams at November 30, 2025 01:26 AM (X+xvk)
Miklos will be more than forthcoming. What do you want him to be? We'll be here all night, . . . which I guess means this is the right place.
Posted by: RickZ at November 30, 2025 01:42 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 01:45 AM (rdVOm)
389
There are still people who go to explore the catacombs of Paris and are never seen again...
Posted by: tankdemon at November 30, 2025 01:40 AM (ZeT+w)
"Be sure to carry your Webley, Dr. Watson."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 01:46 AM (npFr7)
Posted by: Sam Adams at November 30, 2025 01:51 AM (X+xvk)
393
One last thought before I retire for the night. While puttering in the shop, I was musing, as one is wont to do. I thought, "Gee, wouldn't be fun to fuck with AI's by posting learned-sounding but totally bogus stuff on the Internet, so that AI's can find it, and pass it on as Gospel?
"One of the distinctive sights that can be seen when visiting rural areas in Ukraine, are the giant Uzbek heads, each carved from a single large block of montmorillonite, quarried hundreds of kilometers away."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 30, 2025 01:51 AM (npFr7)
394
My apologies, tankdemon. (Safe to say your name derives from military service, no?)
I did mean tankascribe.
Posted by: Sam Adams at November 30, 2025 01:53 AM (X+xvk)
My lil bro called a while ago & was ranting about how his phone must be the culprit, listening to his convos and then he'd get ads for things he'd randomly mentioned.
I then suggested that he should shop for medieval weaponry. He said "Whaaaa?" and I said "Don't worry. You won't need to. Now. LOL." He laughed.
Waiting to hear what ads were served to him after that...
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 01:58 AM (rdVOm)
398
>>Gee, wouldn't be fun to fuck with AI's by posting learned-sounding but totally bogus stuff on the Internet, so that AI's can find it, and pass it on as Gospel?
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LOL. Given some of the absolute BS that AI currently serves, I'd guess people are doing just that already. Heh.
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 02:00 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 02:02 AM (rdVOm)
402The main idea is that instead of judging readers by their books, we should judge books by their readers.
Posted by: pjungwir at November 29, 2025 11:20 PM (uCw0Z)
That's not true. Without reading 'verboten' books like Mein Kampf, one cannot fully appreciate History.
Just because one reads a book doesn't mean they support every idea in that book. Even Shakespeare would have a tough time surviving that critique. How can one debate ideas if you don't know what the idea is?
Posted by: RickZ
Sure, but Lewis's idea is necessarily a generalization based on many readers, not just you. Of course to be curious and fair-minded means reading books we don't agree with or even expect to agree with. I think it's about what kind of reader is attracted to a book. Also keep in mind he's really talking about fiction here.
Posted by: pjungwir at November 30, 2025 02:03 AM (uCw0Z)
403
405 My apologies, tankdemon. (Safe to say your name derives from military service, no?)
I did mean tankascribe.
Posted by: Sam Adams at November 30, 2025 01:53 AM (X+xvk)
Yes, Abrams armor crewman for a couple of decades, though I never did seem to get deployed anywhere while actual shooting was happening.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 30, 2025 02:04 AM (ZeT+w)
404
Yes, Abrams armor crewman for a couple of decades, though I never did seem to get deployed anywhere while actual shooting was happening.
Posted by: tankdemon
Very cool! Most impressive armored vehicle ever made, I would think. At least on land.
Posted by: Sam Adams at November 30, 2025 02:16 AM (X+xvk)
Posted by: Sam Adams at November 30, 2025 02:18 AM (X+xvk)
406 Zoomable "You are here" map of the solar and galactic neighborhood out the largest scale of the observable universe:
https://is.gd/u6YZLJ
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 30, 2025 02:24 AM (w6EFb)
407 ESA's Gaia mission has catalogued about 2 billion stars, position and velocities now. In a 100 pc region about the solar system, there are around 300,000 stars. Here's a page on that with some videos:
https://is.gd/FYiD02
The second animation video shows the galactic orbital evolution of that 100 pc sphere over an orbit around the galactic center. Note how our little sphere gets spread out all over the place.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 30, 2025 02:39 AM (w6EFb)
408
Is an itching male private area below the berries a cause for concern? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 30, 2025 02:40 AM (icmmM)
409Is an itching male private area below the berries a cause for concern? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 30, 2025 02:40 AM (icmmM)
That's the old man 'it itches there and I'm scratching it' issue.
Unlike a kidney stone, this shall not pass.
Posted by: RickZ at November 30, 2025 02:44 AM (gKDq2)
410
Is an itching male private area below the berries a cause for concern? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: The Man from Athens
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Assuming 'your friend' keeps himself clean... tell him to also be sure to rinse thoroughly. Soap residue can cause itchiness.
Also, now that heating season is upon (most of) us, it's possible that the air is drier than usual, which can dry the skin. Try an unscented lotion to help retain moisture? "Lubriderm" is good.
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 02:51 AM (rdVOm)
411
Is an itching male private area below the berries a cause for concern? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 30, 2025 02:40 AM (icmmM)
Sounds like a job for a wire brush. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 30, 2025 02:54 AM (snZF9)
412
Big thumbs up to all that said the "personality tests" were lame. Extra credit to those that pointed out they were probably written by leftholes. Of course everyone in psychology is a lefthole with the exception of Jordan Peterson... and he's Canadian...
Posted by: GR8RDave at November 30, 2025 02:55 AM (SETlN)
413
Sounds like a job for a wire brush. lol
Posted by: Berserker
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I have psoriasis. Wire brush won't cut it. Bench grinder! Gawd, the itch! Cortisone cream helps, for a while. I have other meds too, but if I skip them for too long... ugh!
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 02:57 AM (rdVOm)
414
Man from Athens, I do hope your friend hasn't contracted Crabs from somewhere...
Posted by: JQ at November 30, 2025 02:59 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: GR8RDave at November 30, 2025 03:01 AM (SETlN)
416 My God, in Britain, they are talking about eliminating jury trials for any crimes that carry sentences less than 5 years.
Britain. They are gone.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 30, 2025 03:22 AM (w6EFb)
417My God, in Britain, they are talking about eliminating jury trials for any crimes that carry sentences less than 5 years.
Britain. They are gone.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 30, 2025 03:22 AM (w6EFb)
The Tyranny of the Judiciary. Also an end to jury nullification.
I'll bet dollars to fish and chips this has to do with shari'a blasphemy enforcement. No trials now for such a short sentence offense. One is now automatically guilty because their judges are stupid and corrupt, where a 'hate crime', or posting a meme, is more serious than murder. 'Diversity is our strength' and all that rot. Sounds like too many of our judges.
Posted by: RickZ at November 30, 2025 03:33 AM (gKDq2)
418
When it itches bad and the fishing is borin
Butter your balls with Neosporin
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 30, 2025 03:36 AM (WF/xn)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 30, 2025 03:39 AM (mOv6P)
420 When it itches bad and the fishing is borin
Butter your balls with Neosporin
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 30, 2025 03:36 AM (WF/xn)
So you're the one who put up those Burma Shave signs along "Ventura Highway in the sunshine"!
Posted by: RickZ at November 30, 2025 03:39 AM (gKDq2)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 30, 2025 04:01 AM (Cjt/F)
426
This latest stunt, encouraging our military to disobey orders from the Commander in Chief, that's a CIA-run op, right?
The Deep State is looking desperate.
Posted by: Sam Adams at November 30, 2025 04:02 AM (X+xvk)
427
The real-life Sharona is a real estate agent now.
https://mysharona.com/
Posted by: windbag at November 30, 2025 09:18 AM (V4i+4)
428
so, big shanty means does not have a telegraph?
Posted by: cmeat at November 30, 2025 03:24 PM (R11M+)
An Originalist Take on Movies and Memoirs [Lex]
Constitutional purists, in the main, adhere to the judicial philosophy of ‘originalism.’ That is, they do not believe the Constitution and its Amendments are evolving or subject to change in meaning based on the mood of the times. They try to understand the contemporaneous intent of the words by those who wrote them.
In the field of criticism, a close cousin to originalism is textualism or new criticism. The proponents of new criticism, when looking at literature or poetry or film, tend not to want to be distracted by anything but words on the page or images and dialogue on the screen. So it matters little to the textualist if a movie might seem racist by today’s standards or if it is a faithful adaptation of the source material. The new critic eschews these considerations to concentrate only on what he can see on the screen and judges the film by what it is trying to accomplish.
I kept coming back to these models of interpretation when reading Barry Diller’s recently published memoir Who Knew.
Even though I have devoted a large part of my life to cinema, I have never much liked behind the scenes stories or biographies of stars and studio moguls. I knew the name Barry Diller but almost nothing about what he accomplished. And that is because I see many memoirs and tell-alls as distractions. The play is the thing for me.
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You can read the book to learn about Diller (in his own words) but, briefly, he was an aimless and troubled kid from Beverly Hills who grew up around Hollywood performers and executives. At 19, with no life direction, he called in a favor to get a job in the mail room at the William Morris talent agency. He worked his way up the ranks at William Morris but then leapt over to ABC where he impacted television in profound ways. Next it was on to Paramount where he resurrected that studio in the 1970s. After that, it was Fox, which he also revived. In his later years, he became a forerunner of internet commerce and content.
If you are a film and entertainment historian, you cannot ignore Diller’s legacy, though this begs the question: as one who leans towards textualism when watching movies, should I ignore him?
To give Diller the benefit of the doubt, I set aside the originalist lens to see what he had to say.
Right out of the gate, Diller disappoints. In the foreword, he declares he does not intend the book to be a teaching or business strategy guide (a la The Art of the Deal). The reason he states he wrote the memoir is, simply, because he thinks his life-story worth recounting. ‘Who Knew’ an angst-ridden kid with no education or prospects could succeed as he did.
The wayward-boy-makes-good story is interesting to a point, but what movies inspired him? What novels have moved him? Why did he want to become involved in storytelling--especially at such a grand scale?
Despite his disclaimers, I held out hope I could derive something inspirational from a man who helped shape studios and motion pictures for three decades.
And yet, after 320 pages, I was unsure what attracted him to fictional drama. He repeatedly affirms his love of problem solving, and in the film biz problems abound, but that tells me nothing about his process as a storyteller.
He also is not shy about sharing his distaste for MBA-style financial projections as an approach to crafting a successful film, and he is adamant in his disdain for the practice of packaging stars and material before ideas are hammered out.
I agree with those instincts, but Diller never digs deeper than that. Though he is responsible for some of the great movies in history, he has precious little to say about why they were special or what he understood their dramatic purpose to be.
Oftentimes, he will crow about a hit movie he produced but only to say it did well at the box office or won awards--not why it connected with audiences and what his hand was in setting the table for that connection to be made.
There are nuggets of wisdom in the book, but it is far too little, and as I read on, more and more, I was not only deprived of edification, but I also distrusted Diller.
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I do not read many memoirs (movie ones or otherwise) because they are, ipso facto, self-serving. Diller confirms this instinct by painting himself in the best possible light. He feigns humility frequently, but like the screenwriting seminars teach us: to write a great villain you must make the bad guy believe he is the hero of the story. I am not saying Diller is a villain, but having dedicated his life to one of the most cutthroat businesses, too often he styles himself as merely an amiable –though driven — fixer.
These moments of doubt I had for his authenticity occurred not just with his professional life but also in the many personal things he reveals. He spends much of the first third of the book discussing his homosexuality, how he had to hide it, be ashamed of it, how it caused him panic and self-loathing. One sympathizes with him, but then, in his thirties he meets the fashion mogul and bon vivant Diane von Furstenburg, and it is a love affair for the ages.
He is smitten with her but clueless about how to be a heterosexual romantic. On her 29th birthday he gets her 29 diamonds; yet, he presents them to her in a Band-Aid box. It is supposed to be an adorable tidbit about his inartful amorousness, but any sympathy I had for him in the early going – as a closeted and confused youth — falls by the wayside as he never seems to mention this again, instead opting for tales of opulent jet setting with Furstenburg.
These personal notes about Diller are probably not germane to my pursuit of a better understanding of movies, but they did confirm my belief that too often Hollywood memoirs and histories are more of the TMZ, gossip-style flavor and thus not very useful to the serious cinephile.
And as for Diller himself, in the end, I concluded he was not really dedicated to telling great stories. TV and movies just happened to be the milieu into which he stumbled. He clearly had a knack for getting things done, and, though he tries to disguise it, there was great appeal in the flamboyant lifestyle his success afforded him.
***
For anyone who wants to be involved with or write about movies, basic cinema history is necessary to learn.
Of course it’s fun to know Kurt Russell was in the running to play Han Solo or to point out the cameos Hitchcock made in his movies, but, in the dark of the theater what good do these asides do for my relationship with and reaction to any given film?
Diller’s memoir and others like might fill in the blanks historically speaking, but they have no pedagogical or etiological value.
It will be a long time before I pick up another book like Who Knew. I would rather watch movies and absorb what I can in the moment.
I recognize it would be difficult for film reviewers and historians to write anything if they employed new criticism or textualism in its strictest sense.
But Constitutional originalism has taught us some of the most important lessons in American and world history. Applying some of its spirit to the study of film might not be that bad of an idea.
It must have been some sort of agreement/deal or something, but Kurt did a real TV commercial for the owner of the used car lot, Darner Chrysler, the movie used for its main location.
https://is.gd/nrWEed
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 29, 2025 07:37 PM (1sPEU)
Posted by: Eromero at November 29, 2025 07:41 PM (LHPAg)
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Now I'm curious if there was a co-writer (uncredited) for this autobiography, and if there are others who might have done a better job of getting something interesting out of this Diller guy.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 29, 2025 07:41 PM (ULPxl)
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David Spade’s autobiography, Almost Interesting is a short and funny read. It’s the only ‘Hollywood’ book I’ve read.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 29, 2025 07:44 PM (KDPiq)
Re the message about originalism: I'm probably not understanding it correctly, but I will say that there are some films that have such an old, outdated POV, they're just not enjoyable today.
There's no way I could enjoy the film The Birth Of A Nation, from 1916, for instance. It is just way too steeped in the old, frankly racist attitudes of people like D.W. Griffith. I'm imagine most others here feel the same way.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 29, 2025 07:44 PM (uZFV0)
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Except kurt as a teen actor would have been more like luke
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 29, 2025 07:45 PM (bXbFr)
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Thats why plissken was a surprise from his earlier roles
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 29, 2025 07:45 PM (bXbFr)
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"I knew the name Barry Diller but almost nothing about what he accomplished."
That's how I felt after reading the post. Went to IMDb but it was little help.
"impacted television in profound ways"
"responsible for some of the great movies in history"
I'll take your word for it. I'm not a movie geek. I'm even content watching lowbrow freebie films via YouToob. Lately watched… well, never mind. Don't want to sully the classy movies post with my indulgences.
😁
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It's hard to find an autobiography by anyone that IMHO is truly insightful. It takes another person's uncompromising perspective on your life, to tell the whole truth.
One bio I want to read is H.W. Brands' volume on the life of Andrew Jackson. I can't help but wonder: given how ornery and quick-tempered he was, was Mr. Jackson insightful at all about himself? Would he have admitted he could be a nasty old cuss a lot of the time?
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 29, 2025 07:47 PM (uZFV0)
Did scripts for Empire of the Sun, Last Crusade and Brazil, all of which I liked.
Posted by: Bruce of Newcastle at November 29, 2025 07:47 PM (XBBgc)
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Except kurt as a teen actor would have been more like luke
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 29, 2025 07:45 PM (bXbFr)
Kurt was mid-20s in 1977. He would have worked as Han.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide at November 29, 2025 07:47 PM (0aYVJ)
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Maybe the only autobiography that is real is from someone who has died
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 07:48 PM (Ia/+0)
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Bruce: Mick Jagger actually wrote online today, in memoriam of Tom Stoppard.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 29, 2025 07:48 PM (uZFV0)
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>>>On her 29th birthday he gets her 29 diamonds; yet, he presents them to her in a Band-Aid box.
IIRC, Dr. Szell in Marathon Man, had at least some of his diamonds in a Band-Aid tin.
I don't know how the timeline of the release of the movie (or the novel) lines up with Diller's gift or if he was in some way inspired by it. Since he was in the entertainment business, who knows.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at November 29, 2025 07:48 PM (syz1S)
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>>> 9 Except kurt as a teen actor would have been more like luke
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 29, 2025 07:45 PM (bXbFr)
Both Russell and Hamill were born in 1951. Harrison Ford was born in 1942. (I had to look them up)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 29, 2025 07:48 PM (ULPxl)
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well, never mind. Don't want to sully the classy movies post with my indulgences
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Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 29, 2025 07:49 PM (kpS4V)
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My 2nd cousin works for the William Morris Agency. We call her "Hollywood." She has represented the likes of Jimmy Kimmel and Kelly Clarkson (who she just loves despite her politics) among many others. My cuz is a former Lib turned MAGA Republican who eventually had to leave Hollywood due to her rightie politics, tired of living in mortal fear of being "found out" and cancelled. She moved to outside of Nashville and now represents country artists, and is so much happier. Her parents are former long-time San Fran hippies (my Aunt, her mother, worked for The Jefferson Airplane and later Hot Tuna and is a close personal friend of Jorma Kaukonen) who turned MAGA circa 2016 and who also moved to Tennessee, and are born-again Christians.
My cuz was born deaf but regained most of her hearing thanks to the same cochlear implant that Rush Limbaugh had. We're so proud of her accomplishments and personally I'm so proud of how she's managed to get out of Cali and still do her job, which she loves, while getting to be her true self.
Posted by: Delurker at November 29, 2025 07:50 PM (NhiOW)
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"It's hard to find an autobiography by anyone that IMHO is truly insightful. It takes another person's uncompromising perspective on your life, to tell the whole truth."
Grant wrote his with coaching from Samuel Clemens. I think most of it though was all Grant's writings.
Posted by: fd at November 29, 2025 07:50 PM (vFG9F)
Posted by: Ben Had at November 29, 2025 07:52 PM (sDNVV)
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Delurker:
Jorma Kaukonen seems like a really good guy.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 29, 2025 07:52 PM (uZFV0)
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I thought maybe Stoppard also wrote on of my favorite plays on tv, "The Norman Conquests", but that was Alan Ayckbourn. Very funny.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 29, 2025 07:52 PM (kpS4V)
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Grant wrote his with coaching from Samuel Clemens. I think most of it though was all Grant's writings.
Posted by: fd at November 29, 2025
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I'm reading the Chernow biography, and Twain said he did not, that Grant had a wonderfully lean and direct style that needed little editing.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 29, 2025 07:55 PM (kpS4V)
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Im speaking of the type harrison had shown somr of the same attitude in graffitti
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 29, 2025 07:55 PM (bXbFr)
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But I did actually go to a genuine popcorn-fumed theater last week.
Watched Sarah's Oil, about old Oklahoma that actually was filmed in Oklahoma and looks like it. No snow-capped mountains in the background. Pretty muich on-the-nose depictions of race relations, including AmerIndian tribes. And, yes, many bigoted, creepy, and criminal White guys, but lots of them were. Dramatized "true story," certainly, but moving.
IMDb: "The remarkable true story of eleven year old Sarah Rector, an African American girl born in Oklahoma Indian Territory in the early 1900s, who believes there is oil beneath the barren land she's allotted…"
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 29, 2025 07:57 PM (Kt19C)
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23 Delurker:
Jorma Kaukonen seems like a really good guy.
That's what my aunt tells me. She really loves him him. She has some great living-room jams assembled onto tape that I have copies of. Must have been awesome to have been sitting there next to hm as they were recorded. She didn't like Grace Slick so much though LOL. Major alcohol issues.
Posted by: Delurker at November 29, 2025 07:58 PM (NhiOW)
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Clemens acted as much more than an editor for Grant and that's kind of what I meant by coaching. If not for him Grant would have been really screwed by his publisher.
Posted by: fd at November 29, 2025 07:58 PM (vFG9F)
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 08:02 PM (Ia/+0)
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I've got Twain's and Grant's biographies right here in front of me. It's been a long time since I read Twain's but it's pretty dark in places and I don't know that I need to read it again. The subject may be a good book thread topic.
Posted by: fd at November 29, 2025 08:02 PM (vFG9F)
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Speaking of movies, Devil Doll is on Svengoolie. It's the one with the creepy dummy.
Posted by: fd at November 29, 2025 08:04 PM (vFG9F)
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Russells role in soldier is as earnest as his pre plissken roles in a different context
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 29, 2025 08:06 PM (bXbFr)
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 29, 2025 08:08 PM (q3u5l)
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Wish there was some legal way for all of us to watch a film together, here on the blog.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 29, 2025 08:09 PM (uZFV0)
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I was going to go down to the DIA theater to see CatVideoFest 2025 tomorrow, but snowmageddon will probably put a stop to that.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 29, 2025 08:09 PM (kpS4V)
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Have to check out Devil Doll. I know the name from the Italian-Slovenian weirdo-cult-rock band formed in 1987 by the mysterious "Mr. Doctor" and named after the movie.
Posted by: Delurker at November 29, 2025 08:10 PM (NhiOW)
Only way I can think of to do something like that would be to pick something that's out there for free viewing on a site like TubiTV and let the Hordelings start watching.
Lets out quite a few classics, but there's a decent amount of good stuff to be found there. And of course, if we're up for Terrifier 2, Tubi has us covered.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 29, 2025 08:16 PM (q3u5l)
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Ovation had a classic bond series which they use to air on sundays on abc before cable was big
The man with the golden one was the firsr one i remember
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at November 29, 2025 08:17 PM (bXbFr)
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First world problem. Arrrgh! Spectrum cable remote/setup is soooo complicated to me! No movies, whatever tonight, tech to arrive Monday to coach me. Grrrr!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 29, 2025 08:17 PM (Kt19C)
Yes, they do. There'll be a few interruptions for ads during the flick, but it's there.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 29, 2025 08:25 PM (q3u5l)
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Just Some Guy, also thanks.
Hmmm, let me speak to Ace. Maybe I/we can arrange a viewing party, and then we could all use the comment section here to make snarky asides on the flick. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 29, 2025 08:26 PM (uZFV0)
In fairness, I would describe it as kind of a proto-Incel movie. The message is "dames ain't woith it!!"
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 29, 2025 08:28 PM (uZFV0)
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There is a Hollywood tell-all book that I would like to wholeheartedly recommend, and it's written by one of Barry Diller's contemporaries - Michael Ovitz.
'Who is Michael Ovitz?' is everything that the Diller book is not - and I have the Diller book as well. He discusses his love of movies, and the how-to of building CAA from the ground up. He's not shy about his failings (although he doesn't discuss in great detail his divorce from his first wife), and his stories are great. He doesn't much care about ticking off living people who wronged him, and he's got a great comeback story to boot. Andreessen Horowitz, the Silicon Valley VC firm, organized its management style around the principles outlined in his book.
Again, I'd recommend Ovitz' book in a second. Loved it.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 29, 2025 08:35 PM (0CU3H)
A couple of young brothers encounter an extraterrestrial. Rural setting. Alcoholic father, deceased mother, fat sheriff. Kids' acting wasn't great, kinda stiff, but I was intrigued about where it was going.
Turns out only Episode One (of Five) is done, and they link to a Kickstarter hoping to finance the rest of it. 🫤
We're torn between sending them a couple of bucks for something that may never happen, and feeling ripped off because of the tease.
And they ran a lot of good movies. Among the flicks I remember seeing on SNatM are Titanic, Day the Earth Stood Still, Five Fingers, Battleground, No Highway in the Sky, and Night and the City.
Do you find a lineup of movies like that anywhere except TCM or AMC these days (unless you're looking for certain titles on the streaming services)?
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 29, 2025 08:36 PM (q3u5l)
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Speaking of movies, Devil Doll is on Svengoolie. It's the one with the creepy dummy.
They made a movie about Joey Bidet?
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 29, 2025 08:16 PM (nhv81)
The only way to watch such a cheesy flick is via MS3k. IMHO.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide at November 29, 2025 08:37 PM (0aYVJ)
Did scripts for Empire of the Sun, Last Crusade and Brazil, all of which I liked.
Posted by: Bruce of Newcastle at November 29, 2025 07:47 PM (XBBgc)
'Rosencrantz And Guildenstern Are Dead' was my introduction to Stoppard in HS. Loved him, and it. Very interesting take on Shakespeare, from the point of view of two minor characters in Hamlet. It turns out that if he wasn't conservative when he started, he became one at the end. Very quiet about it - unlike David Mamet (who's great as well, of course).
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 29, 2025 08:40 PM (0CU3H)
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Just Some Guy, also thanks.
Hmmm, let me speak to Ace. Maybe I/we can arrange a viewing party, and then we could all use the comment section here to make snarky asides on the flick. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 29, 2025 08:26 PM (uZFV0)
Don't Bogart the popcorn!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 08:42 PM (npFr7)
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Man, this movie thread is really plodding along. It's clear that Lex put a lot of time and effort into it; he deserves better.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 08:47 PM (npFr7)
Posted by: Ben Had at November 29, 2025 08:48 PM (sDNVV)
68 It being a holiday weekend has something to do with the low comment number.
Hopefully this can be reposted next weekend. He did a great job.
Posted by: fourseasons at November 29, 2025 08:50 PM (3ek7K)
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Hi all,
Sorry. I didn't know this was going up tonight. I just checked in to see what the post was going to be and lo and behold it was yours truly's. Let me get caught up on the comments and respond.
Thanks,
Lex
Posted by: Lex at November 29, 2025 08:50 PM (y4H1r)
"I'd hang you from the nipples, but you'd shock the children,"
Posted by: Fen at November 29, 2025 08:52 PM (ciYHQ)
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Gotta wonder how much of the Horde is still doing battle with turkey/assorted beverages coma or hanging out with friends and relatives in physical space rather than loitering here the way God intended. I'm guessing the book thread tomorrow might be a tad slow as well.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 29, 2025 08:52 PM (q3u5l)
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AOP, agreed but what to do?
Posted by: Ben Had at November 29, 2025 08:48 PM (sDNVV)
Well, my knowledge of, and interest in movies borders on nil, these days. I really have nothing to say on the subject matter.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 08:53 PM (npFr7)
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A really good recent role for Kurt is Bone Tomahawk. He looks just like he does in Hateful 8. But Bone Tomahawk is *shudders* different. A cracker jack western for three quarters of the film, then torture porn horror.
*Shudders again*
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at November 29, 2025 08:53 PM (cxFcK)
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I wonder what it would have been like to be in her orbit
Posted by: Fen at November 29, 2025 08:53 PM (ciYHQ)
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I have heard Bone Tomahawk is good, but also sounded a bit... Cannibal Holocaust.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 29, 2025 08:55 PM (zZu0s)
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I wonder what it would have been like to be in her orbit
Posted by: Fen
I wonder if there's beer on the sun?
Posted by: Zap Rowsdower at November 29, 2025 08:55 PM (cxFcK)
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I’m watching KISSTORY . It’s very interesting and I think very fair to Criss and Ace.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 29, 2025 08:56 PM (KDPiq)
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Russell is terrific in Bone Tomahawk, but it's a rough one to watch, and there's a torture scene in it that you really don't want to see on a full stomach. Trust me on this.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 29, 2025 08:58 PM (q3u5l)
Posted by: Fen at November 29, 2025 09:00 PM (ciYHQ)
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I'm sure the holiday weekend has people in other places. It was a helluva an effort getting four people for a pickleball game today!
I think you can see Kurt Russell's Han Solo screen test on YouTube somewhere.
As for the comment about Birth of a Nation and a tight textual reading of movies. Of course, everyone has their limits, and some old movies certainly don't hold up for many reasons (but should we not read Huckleberry Finn because it seems racist by today's standards?).
The main idea is to try to watch movies more with an eye not on the cute, side stories and behind the scenes anecdotes, but to focus more on the material itself. Try to write a film review without saying "it reminded me of this movie..."
And when I concluded the memoir, I thought here's a man who was at the pinnacle of the system for 30 years and he had nothing insightful to say about filmmaking or storytelling. Almost nothing that was superficial fluff.
Posted by: Lex at November 29, 2025 09:00 PM (y4H1r)
Fen, that was me. I just watched the old MST3k episode. I promise I meant no disrespect. It was just something stupid to type. I excel at that. I apologize unreservedly.
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at November 29, 2025 09:03 PM (cxFcK)
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have heard Bone Tomahawk is good, but also sounded a bit... Cannibal Holocaust.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 29, 2025 08:55 PM (zZu0s)
I preferred The Missing with Tommy Lee Jones better.
In regard to Zahler films, I think Brawl in Cell Block 99 is his best.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 29, 2025 09:07 PM (KDPiq)
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I know zip about Barry Diller outside of recognizing the name from assorted bits of movie biz news. IMDB says he greenlit his share of decent flicks.
Was he drawn to storytelling on film, or was he somebody who found a niche that he seemed to be good at and flogged it for all it was worth? He arranged things so that the people who were drawn to storytelling on film could do that as long as they turned out a product the studio could earn dollars with and make it possible to keep getting dollars with more product. Right? Hey, it's a living...
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 29, 2025 09:07 PM (q3u5l)
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Perhaps in other interesting news, I'm starting to get a lot of screeners for end of the year best of film voting (my film critics group puts out a list of best ofs every December). A few I saw the past week or so...
DEAD MAN'S WIRE. Interesting kidnapping story that was in the public eye in 1977. Good movie. Hard to know how much was actually true, but solid all around.
REBUILDING. Solid indy about rebuilding after a devastating wild fire wipes out a town. Probably won't win awards but it had heart.
WEAPONS. Mystery/thriller. Incredible first half but an absolutely ridiculous second half. Could have been great but was below average in the end.
TRAIN DREAMS. Will be in my top 10. On Netflix. Joel Edgerton is fast becoming one of my favorite actors/filmmakers.
THE SECRET AGENT. Brazilian movie. Quirky and meandering but will probably get attention for a top foreign film.
IT WAS JUST AN ACCIDENT. Will also get strong consideration for best foreign film. Iranian dissident film.
Posted by: Lex at November 29, 2025 09:08 PM (y4H1r)
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83...yes, even he admits he stumbled into TV/movies because he had nothing else to do. Once there, he saw he had a knack for the business, but I never got the sense he revered filmmaking or storytelling. Really, a businessman who could have blundered into another industry and maybe succeeded there for the same reasons.
Posted by: Lex at November 29, 2025 09:10 PM (y4H1r)
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Not gonna watch Bone Tomahawk, too brutal for me.
“Grant wrote his with coaching from Samuel Clemens. I think most of it though was all Grant's writings.
Posted by: fd at November 29, 2025 07:50 PM (vFG9F)”
The most remarkable thing about Grant’s memoirs is that in era of overblown and excessive verbiage, Grant came out sounding like a proto-Hemingway, 60 years ahead of his time. Quite remarkable, I think that’s what makes them quite readable today.
It’s been often said that Grant’s Memoirs were the best work of that kind since Caesar’s Gallic Wars.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 09:10 PM (3U2FH)
87
I preferred The Missing with Tommy Lee Jones better.”
I agree, that was excellent. A very good retelling of “The Searchers”.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 09:13 PM (3U2FH)
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Perhaps "passion" for the movies is counterproductive if you want to be successful in the business of making them.
Was Lee Iacocca passionate about cars? He gave us the Mustang, then the K car. He was successful as a businessman, and made some good cars, but did he love making them?
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 29, 2025 09:14 PM (8QVSJ)
89The Searchers did not show the viewer the atrocity. They left it to the viewer to fill in the blanks which I think is more effective.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 29, 2025 09:15 PM (nhv81)
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A very good retelling of “The Searchers”.
Posted by: Tom Servo
There's a great book called Empire of the Summer Moon about the Comanches. The story of little Cynthia is told throughout. She was the mother of Quannah Parker, the last war chief before the Comanches accepted defeat and moved to Oklahoma.
Side note: Quannah was quite well known and once rode by my great grandfather's farm and made a handsome offer to buy my grandmother. Great grandad declined the offer.
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at November 29, 2025 09:17 PM (cxFcK)
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The Searchers did not show the viewer the atrocity. They left it to the viewer to fill in the blanks which I think is more effective.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 29, 2025 09:15 PM (nhv81)
In the remake, the atrocity will be a tranny gets misgendered.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 09:18 PM (npFr7)
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preferred The Missing with Tommy Lee Jones better.”
I agree, that was excellent. A very good retelling of “The Searchers”.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 09:13 PM (3U2FH)
The bad Indian guy should have won an Oscar. I’m convinced they cast an actual evil serial killer.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 29, 2025 09:19 PM (KDPiq)
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88...a good point. I don't know much about Iacocca but I would think he had to at least like cars and car-making. I never got the sense Diller even had much fondness for the artistic side of fictional movie making or even literature. They say the movie business is the only art with "business" as an indelible descriptor but at least for me I found it hard to take seriously a studio mogul who couldn't even name a favorite film or a novel that moved in. You spend your life in movies and you can't tell us anything that deeply affected you as a viewer or consumer of fiction???
Posted by: Lex at November 29, 2025 09:20 PM (y4H1r)
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Ah, okay, another YooToob sidebar suggestion we watched with almost no idea what it was about.
Bolt From The Blue
An overlooked engineer is sent to Alaska to scope out an eccentric scientist's claim that capturing lightning can be a new source of renewable energy. Kinda silly and unscientific, but some fun bits; goofy main guy and cute gal, does not actually become a love story.
95
Are there any fans here of the 1980s teen flick, The Last American Virgin?
I was reading about it recently, and was intrigued. I like that (spoiler alert) it does NOT have a happy ending.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 29, 2025 09:27 PM (uZFV0)
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I think that content can help appreciate a film. Knowing Jimmy Stewart was a broken spirit from losing so many pilots over Europe. The scene at the bridge and bar, where he is lost and broken was not entirely acting. The knowledge makes it a profound moment of heartache.
Edward G. Robinson knowing he is dying in real life during his role in Soylent Green adds poignancy. Not necessary for enjoying it, but added to the connection to the movie.
Maybe it's more like reading the Federalist and anti-Federalists, but not having to know what James Madison liked for breakfast or if it was real liquor in the bar scene in It's a Wonderful Life.
Posted by: LGBTQ+POC, ANTI RACIST HERO at November 29, 2025 09:27 PM (6mk7C)
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Bolt From The Blue
An overlooked engineer is sent to Alaska to scope out an eccentric scientist's claim that capturing lightning can be a new source of renewable energy. Kinda silly and unscientific, but some fun bits; goofy main guy and cute gal, does not actually become a love story.
https://youtu.be/-Korw8QfOPo
Posted by: mindful webworker - don't bring your high standards to this one at November 29, 2025 09:24 PM (LaTF/)
The failure there is the unstated premise that "renewable" energy is somehow needed.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 09:28 PM (npFr7)
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"Travesties" was another great Tom Stoppard play.
A lot of fun.
"Jumpers" too from the same period.
"The Real Inspector Hound" I saw in London.
I don't know how well those plays will stand up over time or even now.
But when he wrote them they were very clever fun
Posted by: naturalfake at November 29, 2025 09:28 PM (iJfKG)
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Regarding Birth of a Nation, I don't know if it is a movie to be enjoyed. It's more of a visual artifact that helps us understand the past. For that, it is worthwhile.
Posted by: LGBTQ+POC, ANTI RACIST HERO at November 29, 2025 09:30 PM (6mk7C)
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I see that Apple TV has abruptly yanked a new French movie from its schedule, just before its premier. Seems there was an accusation about plagiarism, with the movie looking much like a 1976 American one, based on a 1973 American novel.
From wherever he is, Harlan Ellison smiles.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 29, 2025 09:30 PM (8QVSJ)
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Maybe Diller spent his life in movies, but he came up from the mail room, right? Without reading his book, to me that says he spent his time in offices talking to people who may or may not themselves ever shot a frame of film or performed in front of a camera. Deciding what was likely to bring in some $$$ for the company, while the people drawn to the art of it went ahead and produced the product; if the people on the artistic end were lucky, the higher-ups didn't try to meddle too much in the actual day-to-day work of shooting the movies, or worse, fiddling around with the scripts. Gotta wonder some time how close to truth William Holden's lines in Sunset Boulevard about the butchering of stories really were. From some of Harlan Ellison's comments on story conferences, probably pretty close.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 29, 2025 09:31 PM (q3u5l)
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I’ve been to Old Fort Parker near Groesbeck, Texas. It’s a recreation of the original of course, but very well done. This is the spot where Cynthia Parker was captured; her story is very sad. They should never have tried to capture her back.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 09:32 PM (3U2FH)
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Can't say I want to know about the life of Barry Diller, apart from confirming my worst suspicions about Hollywood homos, sounds like it's light on behind the scenes info: the only reason to read about him.
I will read director biographies but even there I'm wary. Even the good ones have a thesis rather than making an attempt to examine the life and work of an artist impartially.
104
96...You are right. It's not a one or the other situation, but think about it for a moment. I didn't know Edward G Robinson's real life condition informed his approach to that role. Now that I do, does that make me appreciate it more a less? How would that piece of information equip me to watch the film or reflect on it better? It might, but it might not matter at all and maybe he turns in a terrific performance being fully healthy off camera.
Posted by: Lex at November 29, 2025 09:34 PM (y4H1r)
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95 Are there any fans here of the 1980s teen flick, The Last American Virgin?
I was reading about it recently, and was intrigued. I like that (spoiler alert) it does NOT have a happy ending.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 29, 2025 09:27 PM (uZFV0)
Ah, Lemon Popsicle. Yes, a good raunchy movie that will have you crying at the end.
106
As noted, the only problem with Citizen Kane is that you can only ever see it once the first time and revel in it's exquisiteness for the first time.
It similar to when you hear JS Bach's Cello Suite when you are twelve years old and it blows your little mind right out of your head.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 29, 2025 09:35 PM (XV/Pl)
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 29, 2025 09:37 PM (uZFV0)
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88 Perhaps "passion" for the movies is counterproductive if you want to be successful in the business of making them.
Was Lee Iacocca passionate about cars? He gave us the Mustang, then the K car. He was successful as a businessman, and made some good cars, but did he love making them?
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 29, 2025 09:14 PM (8QVSJ)
Art vs commerce. If there is no commerce, there is no money for the art. If there is no art, then you are producing 'content' at best and audience will abandon you and you will have no commerce.
I would say businessmen should say 'yes' or 'no' to a movie package and then stay the fuck out. Businessmen who do not know or love movies being allowed to influence content ruins movies 90% of the time.
109
These days, I respect a lot of films that don't have happy endings.
That's not to say everything should be sturm and drang, pessimistic, no-hope dirges. I just would like to see more films where the hero actually learns something, rather than ends up the 'winner' somehow.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 29, 2025 09:38 PM (uZFV0)
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106 As noted, the only problem with Citizen Kane is that you can only ever see it once the first time and revel in it's exquisiteness for the first time.
It similar to when you hear JS Bach's Cello Suite when you are twelve years old and it blows your little mind right out of your head.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 29, 2025 09:35 PM (XV/Pl)
Well, yes...but you can watch it again, and get more details on the rewatch and it can help you appreciate it even more. And you can get a hint of that original feeling and that is a good sensation, worth pursuing. Its why I rewatch movies I love.
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For me, Citizen Kane works really well not just for the ending, but because there's so much good stuff to enjoy on the way there. Plus it's surpringly (darkly) funny in spots.
"Sure we're talking, Jed. You're fired."
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 29, 2025 09:41 PM (uZFV0)
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96 I think that content can help appreciate a film. Knowing Jimmy Stewart was a broken spirit from losing so many pilots over Europe. The scene at the bridge and bar, where he is lost and broken was not entirely acting. The knowledge makes it a profound moment of heartache.”
I think it also comes through in “Flight of the Phoenix”, where Stewart plays a tough old pilot who doesn’t have any patience for some young pencil pusher trying to tell him what to do. As a pilot with 25 combat missions under his belt, i think that’s one of the most true to life parts he ever played.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 09:41 PM (3U2FH)
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Jimmy Stewart was absolutely unbelievably talented as an actor.
He makes Vertigo work really well, and although it's one of my all-time favorite movies, I also acknowledge it has one of the most outlandish plots of any film anywhere.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 29, 2025 09:43 PM (uZFV0)
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They left it to the viewer to fill in the blanks which I think is more effective.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 29, 2025 09:15 PM (nhv81)
This.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 29, 2025 09:44 PM (zZu0s)
115The failure there is the unstated premise that "renewable" energy is somehow needed.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Well, sure, and they do briefly even mention that the kid is persona non grata because so much of the local economy is oil-based. Don't want to overthink a goofy little flick like this, though. Big Energy Company trying to hijack the Solitary Scientist, both thinking renewables is a goal to chase is not an unlikely scenario.
Less plausible is trying to capture and store lightning in a bottle.
IMDB tried to sell me "today's power couples!" bullshit, and I did not recognize any of them.
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 29, 2025 09:49 PM (y8ZM0)
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Sooth, Hanks is IMHO too much of a comedian at heart to be an effective Stewart.
Can anyone imagine Jimmy Stewart playing Forrest Gump? I can't.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 29, 2025 09:49 PM (uZFV0)
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The other thing about Wells is his acting, the dude could act, he was Brando before Brando, who is a touch overrated in my opinion.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 29, 2025 09:50 PM (XV/Pl)
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Thomas, Brando had issues.
It seems like he was always looking for reasons to be unhappy and angry at his co-stars, directors, etc etc., instead of appreciating the success he had.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 29, 2025 09:51 PM (uZFV0)
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I don't think you're dreaming that, Soothsayer.
Have no idea who would be our generation's Jimmy Stewart, but I don't think Hanks is it.
Re: art and commerce in the movie biz -- they're all just a bunch of people standing around until the writer gives them a script to tell them what to do. At which point too many of 'em think they know better than the writer.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 29, 2025 09:52 PM (q3u5l)
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I didn't know Edward G Robinson's real life condition informed his approach to that role. Now that I do, does that make me appreciate it more a less? How would that piece of information equip me to watch the film or reflect on it better? It might, but it might not matter at all and maybe he turns in a terrific performance being fully healthy off camera.
Posted by: Lex at November 29, 2025 09:34 PM (y4H1r
For me, that’s the entire reason I’ll rewatch Soylent Green whenever I run across it. The movie itself is a rather typical representative of dystopian sci-fi, a popular genre in the 70’s. Dark and dreary - but Eddie G’s death scene transcends the rest of the movie not just thematically but visually - it’s beautiful and deeply touching.
And that’s because it’s not just the character dying; this is Eddie G. Robinson’s very personal Goodbye to his career, his audience, and his life, shared with the entire movie viewing world.
I can hardly think of another star of his stature who could make an exit that magnificently; although one could argue that Maggie Smith came close in her last “Downton Abbey” appearance.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 09:52 PM (3U2FH)
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Was Lee Iacocca passionate about cars? He gave us the Mustang, then the K car
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And the mini van.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 09:53 PM (pW7uA)
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108 88 Perhaps "passion" for the movies is counterproductive if you want to be successful in the business of making them.
Was Lee Iacocca passionate about cars? He gave us the Mustang, then the K car. He was successful as a businessman, and made some good cars, but did he love making them?
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 29, 2025 09:14 PM (8QVSJ)
Art vs commerce. If there is no commerce, there is no money for the art. If there is no art, then you are producing 'content' at best and audience will abandon you and you will have no commerce.
I would say businessmen should say 'yes' or 'no' to a movie package and then stay the fuck out. Businessmen who do not know or love movies being allowed to influence content ruins movies 90% of the time.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at November 29, 2025 09:37 PM (xcxpd)
I'd put George Lucas in that 10% category. I'd argue that the constraints the suits put on George made Star Wars a better movie - it forced innovation. As Lucas became less dependent upon the suits to get his movies made, they became progressively worse.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 29, 2025 09:54 PM (FjUgp)
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 29, 2025 09:55 PM (q3u5l)
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From what I remember, Iacocca is the guy who actually managed to talk his *labor union* off the cliff at Chrysler. Told 'em he just couldn't keep them on the wages they requested in 1978.
When was the last time a labor union backed off a major CEO? I don't think it happens very often.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 29, 2025 09:55 PM (uZFV0)
129the only problem with Citizen Kane is that you can only ever see it once the first time and revel in it's exquisiteness for the first time.
same can be said for The Sixth Sense.
Been decades since I watched Citizen Kane. Knowing the Big Reveal (Rosebud is Luke's father), which was no big deal, after all, I think the film has great merit anyway.
We saw Sixth Sense (where the Big Reveal is more integral to the whole telling) in the theater when it first came out, and have often thought it might be worth a re-watch just to pick up on all the clues we didn't get during first viewing. Maybe one of these days…
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There is a movie coming out next year that seems to be based on the French web-series Le Visiteur du Futur, where a man comes back from an apocalyptic future to try to change the past. And mostly getting it wrong.
Have Fun, Be Safe, Don't Die
youtu.be/CaSxNAZUKsM
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 10:06 PM (rbvCR)
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I think you may really enjoy Val Kilmer’s autobiography. Tells about the art, the people, and how he was feeling. I finished it and he died the next day. I felt responsible.
Posted by: DuckButt at November 29, 2025 10:30 PM (FiT1h)
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"Fen, that was me. I just watched the old MST3k episode. I promise I meant no disrespect. It was just something stupid to type. I excel at that. I apologize unreservedly."
Nah, no need for that. I figured you were just goofing and I enjoy being a bit whimsical (?) myself. But I do appreciate you taking the time to be considerate. It's a rare thing Hat tip.
Posted by: Fen at November 30, 2025 01:07 PM (ciYHQ)
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watched "good boy" a few days ago. not very spooky, nothing is explained and it ends kind of flat.
the editing is remarkable, dog lovers should not miss it. knowing that it is not ai makes it all the moreso.
Posted by: cmeat at November 30, 2025 03:02 PM (R11M+)
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i saw computer wore (wears?) tennis shoes as a pre- teen. maybe a double feature with cold turkey.
Posted by: cmeat at November 30, 2025 03:10 PM (R11M+)
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Diller was CEO of QVC for a while. He was a real hothead and would explode in anger. They replaced his multi-line telephone quite a few times because he trashed it. There was a box in the telecom room labeled Dillers Leftovers which held parts from the very expensive phones and it was raised to fix phones for other less aggressive executives.
Posted by: Former Qer at November 30, 2025 06:16 PM (msB/9)
Hobby Thread - November 29, 2025 [TRex]
Welcome hobbyists! Pull up a chair and sit a spell with the Horde in this little corner of the interweb. This is the mighty, mighty, mighty officially sanctioned Ace of Spades Hobby Thread. A spin of the Ace of Spades Wheel of Hobbies (TM) landed on advent calendars.
Are you thinking "I'm not into advent calendars and I can barely count, but I am eager to learn more. I can't wait to get into the content!" I knew it. Enjoy.
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What are you hobbying?
As per usual Hobby Thread etiquette, keep this thread limited to hobbying. All (legal) hobbying is welcome. However, politics, current events and religious debates can live in threads elsewhere. Pants are optional. Puns are welcome and encouraged.
Play nice. Don't be a troll and do not feed the trolls.
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Tomorrow is the first Sunday in Advent. The time for preparation and anticipation of Christmas is upon us. If only there was a fun and clever way to track the countdown...
Where did Advent Calendars come from? Here's the explanation, thanks to a German Girl in America:
In literature, the earliest mention of a countdown Calendar comes in a 1851 Children's Book by Elise Averdieck. Thomas Mann also mentions the Advent Calendar in his novel Buddenbrooks. By 1902, the first "Christmas Clock" was sold in Hamburg. It counted the days, much like a clock counts the hours with a movable dial and hands.
It was German lithographer Gerhard Lang, however, who came to be known as the "inventor" of the modern Advent calendar in the years that followed. When he was a boy, Lang's mother would help him count down to Christmas by fixing 24 cookies to a makeshift calendar.
After World War I, Lang released his first Advent calendar with pieces of chocolate inside, paving the way for the modern versions.
In the U.S., Advent calendars saw a massive boost in popularity after World War II.
"President Dwight Eisenhower's grandkids had a picture in Newsweek magazine of them opening an advent calendar, because at that point, Advent calendars were still sort of a new thing in the United States, even though they had been produced in Germany for 50 years," Landau said.
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Has an advent calendar been part of your Christmas tradition?
Do you have a favorite in your house? Did you have one as a child?
Have you made a calendar of your own?
What fun treats have you put in an advent calendar? (Disclosure: interweb searching for "advent calendar" yields way too many expensive examples with high dollar goodies each day rather than simple and fun treats. I guess fools and their money are soon parted...)
Are there advent calendars out there you think would be particularly well suited for the Horde?
Any other favorite advent traditions?
Do you have three purple candles and one pink candle ready for your advent wreath? Do you use blue instead of purple?
Are you among the early birds bringing home a fresh Christmas tree before November ends? Are you already setting up an artificial tree?
Steps:
1) Decide on a design (square, rectangular, or triangular)
2) Cut shipping tubes or dividers
3) Glue shipping tubes or dividers together
4) Fill each tube with a craft beer bottle or can
5) Decorate
6) Enjoy
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This looks like a fun little craft project. Click the photo for instructions:
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Cardboard tube (aka toilet paper roll) DIY calendar.
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From the Ore Mountains of Germany, known as Erzgebirge.
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For Doggo (and doggos):
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Fortum and Mason building in London:
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Mercedes-Benz in Munich:
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Get a part each day and assemble them into a finished product. From the Germans (naturally):
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Presume everyone already has this one:
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Did you miss the Hobby Thread last week? We did an boating theme. The comments may be closed, but you can re-live the content.
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Notable comments from last week:
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Words of wisdom:
"Because despite all our troubles, when things are grim out in that wide round world of ours, that's when it's really important to have a good hobby." Posted by: tankascribe at June 22, 2024 07:41 PM (HWxAD).
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If you have trouble finding something in the content or comments that resonates with you, contribute something from your personal hobbying. We will feature a different theme next time. What are you hobbying? We love showing off Horde hobbying. Send thoughts, suggestions and photos of your hobbying to moronhobbies at protonmail dot com. Do mighty things.
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 05:32 PM (Ia/+0)
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One of the excerpts mentions modern Advent calendars. I saw a YT vid recently that dates the Advent calendar as quite a bit older than the nineteenth century.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 29, 2025 05:34 PM (uQesX)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 29, 2025 05:35 PM (pkeXY)
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Happy Thanksgiving to all. Thanks for the thread, TRex. When I was a kid, we made Christmas decorations from Pringles cans. They each had a miniature scene like a Nativity, illuminated with a small candle above.
Posted by: PA Dutchman at November 29, 2025 05:36 PM (31p00)
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I really admire people who are creative enough to make advent calendars . I had a challenging enough time finding regular advent calendars that had religious pictures and not 25 days of chocolate. Chocolate is fine, but I don't want it for an advent calendar. I finally went to Hallmark. They had one religious one and the Irish store had some lovely ones.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 05:36 PM (jUN6x)
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I first learned about the advent calendar watching Bad Santa.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 29, 2025 05:36 PM (KDPiq)
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5 When I was a kid, we made Christmas decorations from Pringles cans. They each had a miniature scene like a Nativity, illuminated with a small candle above.
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Wow. Sounds great! Pringles cans are good hobbying material.
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Wow. Sounds great! Pringles cans are good hobbying material.
Posted by: TRex - once you pop, you can't stop at November 29, 2025 05:38 PM (IQ6Gq)
Pringles can, rubber band, wiffle ball, empty box... next thing you know you have a tank.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 29, 2025 05:39 PM (uQesX)
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Alas, this thread is a week to early for me as tomorrow is our family yearly Christmas grave wreath making. We put together wreaths from evergreens pine cones, Christmas ornaments, ribbons and bows.
Will have a picture next week.
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 05:41 PM (Ia/+0)
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I never *heard* of an Advent calendar until recent years, when companies are using them to move merchandise like an Advent calendar with a chocolate treat in each little window. But don't go by me. I grew up in one of the most Catholic cities in the U.S., had Catholic friends and married a Catholic girl of Irish extraction -- and had never heard of the Stations of the Cross until about twenty-five years ago!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 29, 2025 05:42 PM (wzUl9)
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I'd suppose you could make an Advent calendar with each of the twenty-four little boxes holding a bowl's worth of pipe tobacco. That'd be interesting.
I'm trying to locate some Christmas- or "winter"-themed blends, and already a lot of them are sold out. I have the remnants -- about a thumbnail-sized flake -- of such a blend I received last Christmas. I'll try to see if I can name it to 12/25 before I use it up.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 29, 2025 05:45 PM (wzUl9)
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I saw the Dinosaur adventure Calendar at a craft store today. I was guessing it was a subtle dig against God creating the world, but maybe that was an uncharitable thought due to my fatigue.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 05:47 PM (64qRd)
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The Porsche calendar looks ultra-cool! Any idea of the scale, or the length of the finished car? And where can you buy these?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 29, 2025 05:48 PM (wzUl9)
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My hobby is making lists of the Roman and Byzantine emperors.
Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025 05:49 PM (77rzZ)
16I first learned about the advent calendar watching Bad Santa.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 29, 2025
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Lauren Graham is in that. Gotta see it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 29, 2025 05:50 PM (wzUl9)
17My hobby is making lists of the Roman and Byzantine emperors.
Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025
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Miss Linda wants me to make an inventory list of all my pipes: brand, shape, when and where I purchased each one, etc. An Excel spreadsheet would be perfect for that, and then I can print it out.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 29, 2025 05:51 PM (wzUl9)
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Miss Linda wants me to make an inventory list of all my pipes: brand, shape, when and where I purchased each one, etc. An Excel spreadsheet would be perfect for that, and then I can print it out.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 29, 2025 05:51 PM (wzUl9)
Make a spreadsheet? Remind her you're retired.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 29, 2025 05:54 PM (uQesX)
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Bourbon Advent calendar (which is $$$) or the cigar calendar, which is equally stupidly priced.
The Bourbon calendars run over $120. And they are not even full shots.
They're "tastes."
Think eye droppers.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 29, 2025 05:54 PM (NwnyJ)
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Advent is a religious thing, and mostly a Roman Catholic thing, I believe. Never understood how the escaped into the more secular scene.
Seeing them referred to here as countdown calendars makes it a bit more clear, I would have expected that to have overtaken Advent more by now.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 05:55 PM (sl73Y)
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Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025 05:49 PM (77rzZ)
And who is the best and worst of each of those categories?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 05:55 PM (TIRHP)
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Makerhaus (https://tinyurl.com/bdfzwcyp) had the Porsche Advent kits, as did Amazon, but they're sold out.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 29, 2025 05:56 PM (wzUl9)
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Had an Advent wreath in Lutheran church with four candles. Light one candle each week until all four are alight.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 29, 2025 05:57 PM (pkeXY)
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14 The Porsche calendar looks ultra-cool! Any idea of the scale, or the length of the finished car? And where can you buy these?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 29, 2025 05:48 PM
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It is made by Franzis. https://tinyurl.com/yak9kpd3
I don't see that color on their website, but looks the one they have is out of stock. The final result is a 1:43 scale car.
Posted by: TRex - mini dino at November 29, 2025 05:59 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 05:55 PM (sl73Y)
My mother was a nominal Protestant and she liked Advent calendars. The "high" Protestant churches have them as well. But I was thinking the same thing - that the countdown calendars have replaced the religiously connected ones.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 05:59 PM (TIRHP)
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Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 29, 2025 05:57 PM (pkeXY)
Yep, so do Anglican, Episcopalian and Methodist churches.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 06:00 PM (TIRHP)
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We had a Belgian chocolate advent calendar last year that #2 son gave us. Mrs fd and I split each piece each day.
Posted by: fd at November 29, 2025 06:00 PM (vFG9F)
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I used the 3D printer to make the Nakatomi plaza Advent calendar.
As you pull each day, Hans Gruber falls one more floor. She loved it.
Posted by: Chappyman66 at November 29, 2025 06:01 PM (boKcN)
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I always had a religious peekaboo Advent Calendar as a kid, it was fun to open a new door each day. My grandma one year gave us fancy ones that had a piece of candy each day.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 06:01 PM (3U2FH)
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Posted by: Chappyman66 at November 29, 2025 06:01 PM (boKcN)
That really would be appropriately named a countDOWN calendar. 😉
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 06:03 PM (TIRHP)
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Leftover Thanksgiving ham calendar won't last a week.
Posted by: Eromero at November 29, 2025 06:04 PM (LHPAg)
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Indeed.....you really feel the approach of the day....
Posted by: Chappyman66 at November 29, 2025 06:05 PM (boKcN)
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One of the best Advent calendars for guys is one of the ones full of tools. The ever-indulgent wife has been getting me the Wera one for the last several years. You can find it on Amzn or just go straight to KCTool - kctoolco.com where I see they still have some of this year's as well as some from past years. Tools don't go stale like chocolates so get all you want. Warning: some of them are a bit... pricey (but worth it).
Just search 'advent calendar' and see what's still in stock.
Posted by: KCSteve at November 29, 2025 06:06 PM (bxAlI)
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28 I used the 3D printer to make the Nakatomi plaza Advent calendar.
As you pull each day, Hans Gruber falls one more floor. She loved it.
Posted by: Chappyman66 at November 29, 2025 06:01 PM
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That would be a Yippee-ki-yay-calendar.
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Welcome to the party pals! It's an Advent party.
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36 34 One of the best Advent calendars for guys is one of the ones full of tools.
Posted by: KCSteve at November 29, 2025 06:06 PM
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Good way to fill out a socket set.
Posted by: TRex - where is that 10mm socket? at November 29, 2025 06:08 PM (IQ6G
I need a deepwall 10mm.
Posted by: Eromero at November 29, 2025 06:09 PM (LHPAg)
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Took advantage of an unfinished project for the foster kid and added an upper shelf to my electronics workbench. Moved most of the test equipment up to it.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at November 29, 2025 06:09 PM (lUFok)
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Grew up with Advent calendars (religious pictures, no chocolate)
Never had an Advent wreath (parents not big on candles). Got my own when I moved out, then learned what a pain the clean up is at the end of the season.
We have a German smoker that counts down the days til Christmas. Became a necessity when we lived in CA, as the weather was the same most days. Dec 25 can just sneak up on you before you know it!
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"Good way to fill out a socket set.
Posted by: TRex - where is that 10mm socket? "
I would like a 10mm socket set advent calendar. 6 points, 12 point, shallow, medium, and deep well, 3/8 and 1/4 drive, thinwall and impact, all the possible combinations should fill out a month.
Posted by: fd at November 29, 2025 06:13 PM (vFG9F)
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Commandment 4.5: Roll with it. Didn't make the final draft even though it was placed between authority of parents and murder prohibited.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at November 29, 2025 06:16 PM (YlWIZ)
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41 "Good way to fill out a socket set.
Posted by: TRex - where is that 10mm socket? "
I would like a 10mm socket set advent calendar. 6 points, 12 point, shallow, medium, and deep well, 3/8 and 1/4 drive, thinwall and impact, all the possible combinations should fill out a month.
Posted by: fd at November 29, 2025 06:13 PM
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We're onto something. Will see about adding to the 2025 Moron Christmas gift buying guide.
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My mother does the three red and one purple candle advent Sundays. She told me what was what but I can be a bit thick.
Posted by: Accomack at November 29, 2025 06:19 PM (IG7T0)
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Advent is a religious thing, and mostly a Roman Catholic thing, I believe. Never understood how the escaped into the more secular scene.
Seeing them referred to here as countdown calendars makes it a bit more clear, I would have expected that to have overtaken Advent more by now.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 05:55 PM
Advent is also an Orthodox thing. 40 days out from the Nativity, much like Lent, only the fast is more relaxed.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 29, 2025 06:19 PM (Wnv9h)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 29, 2025 06:19 PM (zZu0s)
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I always had a religious peekaboo Advent Calendar as a kid, it was fun to open a new door each day. My grandma one year gave us fancy ones that had a piece of candy each day.
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I have one of those around here...somewhere.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 29, 2025 06:23 PM (XeU6L)
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One year in the strip Pearls Before Swine, Pig comments that he always thought it was an "Advil Calendar" which had a pain pill in each window for the Christmas season
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 06:24 PM (rbvCR)
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Plus advent calendars kind of both heighten and capture t he season for kids. You get small candy or toys and you get one a day until the big day when everything is grand. Least that is how mom and dad made it for me.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 29, 2025 06:24 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: PaleRider at November 29, 2025 06:25 PM (hhkIi)
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My family is fond of the cat and dog advent calendars at Trader Joes. My mom's cat has evolved the ability to detect his advent calendar anywhere in the house sight unseen, and it has to be hidden in a high cabinet with a cat-proof door to make it all the way through Christmas.
This year will be the first year I have a *completely home-grown tree*. I got fed up with spending over a hundred bucks for a spindly weed full of spiders, so I got some baby pine trees and set up my own tree farm So I guess that's a hobby? A very small tree farm?
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at November 29, 2025 06:25 PM (5da0R)
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Posted by: Accomack at November 29, 2025 06:19 PM (IG7T0)
I m not sure what the red is ? . In usual Advent wreaths it is three purple candles and one pink one for the Sunday of "Joy"- third Sunday in Advent ,and then there's larger white candle for Christmas Eve.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 06:25 PM (GLmO1)
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Posted by: Sabrina Chase at November 29, 2025 06:25 PM (5da0R)
That's neat- starting a little tree farm
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 06:26 PM (GLmO1)
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The Porsche kit featured in the content up top is the only one I've ever seen that slowly releases parts that are later built into a finished end product. I like the idea of a gradual reveal and then combining the parts into a keepsake. The company makes others like a VW bus, firetruck and F1 race car.
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I don't have an actual tree. We use an old fashioned towel rack with arms sticking out, because one year my son who was about four saw it in a room upstairs and said "That looks like a tree". No danger of loads of needles dropping off or of cats climbing it.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 06:32 PM (GLmO1)
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51 This year will be the first year I have a *completely home-grown tree*. I got fed up with spending over a hundred bucks for a spindly weed full of spiders, so I got some baby pine trees and set up my own tree farm
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at November 29, 2025 06:25 PM
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Outstanding! Best wishes! How many did you plant? How long ago did you plant?
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 06:32 PM (Ia/+0)
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Someone gave me an Advent calendar with daily nibbles of chocolate when I was a kid. I had no idea what it was and ate all the chocolate in minutes.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 29, 2025 06:32 PM (9ipOP)
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Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 06:24 PM (rbvCR)
LOL.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 06:33 PM (GLmO1)
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As writing is a hobby - because I'm making no money, I was interested in this Rick Beato vid from yesterday. Apparently, some large music companies are teaming with AI platforms. Could it mean "corporate music" will become a reality? I can understand amateur songwriters using AI programs to help craft a tune, but big companies are always looking for a way to take from producers and bypass them. Will it lead to fake music topping sales charts?
https://tinyurl.com/26363bwu
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 29, 2025 06:34 PM (uQesX)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 06:25 PM
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Red isn't symbolic or religious - just festive. Goes with the green and red Christmas color palate.
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Although my family were all good Catholics, we never had Advent calendars in my youth. A few years ago Mrs. JTB and I started having one as a pleasant tradition. Lately, it's been harder to find religious or even seasonal ones in local stores. This year we saw the dinosaur one and a Harry Potter version but not religious. I should check the Hallmark store in town. Had the same problem finding a creche some time ago. Finally found one.
Posted by: JTB at November 29, 2025 06:36 PM (yTvNw)
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Posted by: TRex - symbolic dino at November 29, 2025 06:35 PM (IQ6Gq)
Ok . It was a holiday wreath not a traditional Advent wreath. Sorry; didn't get that .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 06:36 PM (GLmO1)
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Posted by: JTB at November 29, 2025 06:36 PM (yTvNw
Yep, unless they've sold out Hallmark should have some.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 06:37 PM (GLmO1)
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Poinsetta and Holly Berries(?) Are both red, right?
Santa (Saint Nick's) uniform is Scarlett. Probably has something to do with the Blood of Christ.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 29, 2025 06:39 PM (zZu0s)
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In my early years, the harbingers of Christmas were the arrival of the Sears Christmas catalog and Mom pulling out the Advent Wreath.
Posted by: mrp at November 29, 2025 06:40 PM (rj6Yv)
Where did the red & green motif come from? The poinsettia plant?
(I just looked up "poinsettia" and googled decided they need to tell me that LEGO sells a Lego poinsettia plant. And this is why I hate Lego -- they will will literally lego-ize everything.)
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 29, 2025 06:42 PM (uEFJY)
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I recently dragged my acoustic guitar out of retirement, and am starting to play again. But with busy holiday week I have not gotten fresh strings for it, and I need a new battery for my Snark tuner, so for now I tuned it by ear. It's a nice instrument, and was mostly close to in-tune.
In a few weeks I want to get my BC Rich Gunslinger and Gibson SG tuned up by a guitar guy.
I am far from good, but I enjoy playing for fun. I ignored them for too long.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide at November 29, 2025 06:43 PM (0aYVJ)
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The "pink" candle is the Rose candle. It's lit for the third week that includes "Gaudete" Sunday.
Posted by: mrp at November 29, 2025 06:43 PM (rj6Yv)
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This topic got me thinking. If I were to make an Advent calendar, I would like to have a a picture of a bird or flower behind each door. Things I consider life affirming which seems appropriate to the season.
Posted by: JTB at November 29, 2025 06:44 PM (yTvNw)
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68 I recently dragged my acoustic guitar out of retirement, and am starting to play again.
I am far from good, but I enjoy playing for fun.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide at November 29, 2025 06:43 PM
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Love to see posts like this. Best wishes!
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70 This topic got me thinking. If I were to make an Advent calendar, I would like to have a a picture of a bird or flower behind each door. Things I consider life affirming which seems appropriate to the season.
Posted by: JTB at November 29, 2025 06:44 PM
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Sounds like a whittling project!
1958 episode of Father Knows Best, Jim was exasperated at how everyone lost the true Christmas spirit -- Kitten demanded a purple tree, Betty disagreed and suggested pink, and Bud "commercialized" Christmas by using carols to sell used cars.
So, point is, we've been battling these "forces" for more than 65 years to preserve the "true" spirit of Christmas.
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 29, 2025 06:49 PM (uEFJY)
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76 My hobby this minute is eating white chocolate mousse cranberry pie.
Posted by: Eromero at November 29, 2025 06:48 PM
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Yum, yum and double yum!!
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Red and Green? Well, Holly and Ivy are traditional.
Should I link to the carol?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 29, 2025 06:51 PM (XeU6L)
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Lutherans do Advent as well. And Lent, of course.
At least the LCMS does. I don't know about the rest.
Posted by: TecumsehTea at November 29, 2025 06:51 PM (+4S8X)
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Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 29, 2025 06:48 PM (XeU6L)
Why? Because it's part of the supposed "Palestinian " flag?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 06:52 PM (GLmO1)
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76 My hobby this minute is eating white chocolate mousse cranberry pie.
Posted by: Eromero at November 29, 2025 06:48 PM (LHPAg)
Excuse me, cheesecake. What was I thinking?
Posted by: Eromero at November 29, 2025 06:53 PM (LHPAg)
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 29, 2025 06:55 PM (uEFJY)
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Santa (Saint Nick's) uniform is Scarlett. Probably has something to do with the Blood of Christ.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
One of our local RC churches was the His Precious Blood church. Maybe most not his. Whatever, always cracked me up a bit. Imagined they had good teams or at least tough, in YMCA church league basketball.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 06:56 PM (sl73Y)
Posted by: Eromero at November 29, 2025 06:57 PM (LHPAg)
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This advent calendar thing seems like cultural appropriation.
From Germans.
Posted by: fd at November 29, 2025 06:58 PM (vFG9F)
91 Why? Because it's part of the supposed "Palestinian " flag?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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They backed off but, note reference to 'holiday' decor:
an email from the Wauwatosa, Wisconsin, city administrator to employees was widely reported as instructing them to avoid red and green Christmas decorations in public spaces to be more "inclusive". The email suggested inclusive decorations like snowflakes and festive lighting, while discouraging religious or Christmas-specific symbols. Following significant public backlash and viral criticism, city officials clarified that the email was a suggestion, not a policy, and that all holiday decor was welcome in city buildings.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 29, 2025 06:58 PM (XeU6L)
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Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 29, 2025 06:58 PM (XeU6L)
Bunch of weenies. I'm glad people spoke up and the local government tbacked off.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 07:00 PM (Nx5jP)
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"instructing them to avoid red and green Christmas decorations"
Just put up the green and reds ones then.
Posted by: fd at November 29, 2025 07:00 PM (vFG9F)
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I will say that my town goes all in on Christmas decorating. Helps for getting in the spirit.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 29, 2025 07:01 PM (sDNVV)
95 You see, we have to be exclusive to be inclusive.
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 29, 2025 07:01 PM (uEFJY)
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I kick started a bundle of game-advent calendars this year. You get new bits of the game on each day, and at the end you open up the calendar and get a map and rules. Pretty cool actually.
Posted by: Are you sure about this sir? at November 29, 2025 07:01 PM (U/7CP)
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74 City workers in Wauwatosa, Wisconsin, were instructed to not use red and green Christmas decorations in public places.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 29, 2025 06:48 PM (XeU6L)
That would come under the heading of submission.
Posted by: Eromero at November 29, 2025 07:02 PM (LHPAg)
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68... Pug,
A few years ago I got out my acoustic guitar (new when I bought it, now an antique) and had it worked on. Made a significant improvement: better sound and easier to play.
Like you, I just play for fun so my very rusty skills don't matter.
Posted by: JTB at November 29, 2025 07:02 PM (yTvNw)
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What's so inclusive about a snowflake? I don't like snow or snowflakes. Don't these people ever consider what might trigger me?
Posted by: fd at November 29, 2025 07:02 PM (vFG9F)
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I guess the uninvited guests have to be placate, wouldn't want to upset any and cause Jihadists
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 07:03 PM (Ia/+0)
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We have a wooden Christmas tree advent calendar. It’s old and cute.
Ribboning a fresh Christmas tree is a bazillion times harder than a fake tree- and I can ribbon up a tree, y’all. I am stepping back for a bit because at this moment, I want to set it all on fire.
Posted by: Piper at November 29, 2025 07:03 PM (Wmg4n)
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I loved the lead-up to Christmas when I was a kid. You knew it was near when the Sunday School classes got our little books with that year's Christmas program in it, and the speaking parts were assigned. All the signs -- the church program rehearsals, the putting up of the town creche, the city's decorations on the light poles and the "tree" on the little island in the Fox River, that when I was older I discovered was not a tree at all, but just strands of lights. From the bridge at night you couldn't tell.
Posted by: TecumsehTea at November 29, 2025 07:03 PM (+4S8X)
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* hands Piper an eggnog with a shot of brandy in it*
Posted by: Ben Had at November 29, 2025 07:05 PM (sDNVV)
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100 I guess the uninvited guests have to be placate, wouldn't want to upset any and cause Jihadists
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 07:03 PM (Ia/+0)
The jihad is not 'caused', it's a requirement.
Posted by: Eromero at November 29, 2025 07:06 PM (LHPAg)
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I've been 3D printing up a storm, I've printed several Star Wars Dioramas, Deckards Blaster, and a bunch of cases for ESP32 devices and touchscreens.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 29, 2025 07:06 PM (XV/Pl)
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101 I am stepping back for a bit because at this moment, I want to set it all on fire.
Posted by: Piper at November 29, 2025 07:03 PM
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Stage 1: This is going to be great!
Stage 2: Hard but promising!
Stage 3: This sucks. I hate it. Stage 4: Wait a minute, this might work.
Stage 5: This turned out great! (but let's never do it again)
[time passes]
Stage 6: Remember when we did that thing? Wasn't that fun? Let's do it again! This is going to be great!
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Posted by: TecumsehTea at November 29, 2025 07:03 PM (+4S8X)
Nice memories.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 07:07 PM (TIRHP)
108 Way, way off-topic, but has anyone ever done a study why we humans make that certain ahhhh sound after we sip coffee? We even, naturally, make particular facial expression. You know what I'm talking about.
We don't do it for anything else, or any other hot beverage. No one is going ahhhh and nodding slightly after a sip of tea. Right?
Why do we do that? It's in our genetic makeup, yes?
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 29, 2025 07:07 PM (uEFJY)
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Eromero I know that, you know that but Leftists think that
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 07:10 PM (Ia/+0)
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I should check the Hallmark store in town. Had the same problem finding a creche some time ago. Finally found one.
Posted by: JTB
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Most of the religious stores are no longer in business...but many convents have gift stores, or are a source to identify where you can find these items. As are the staff in a church office. Good luck!
Posted by: Ben Had at November 29, 2025 07:11 PM (sDNVV)
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Why do we do that? It's in our genetic makeup, yes?
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 29, 2025 07:07 PM (uEFJY)
Whiskey produces the same reaction.
Posted by: Eromero at November 29, 2025 07:13 PM (LHPAg)
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This advent calendar thing seems like cultural appropriation.
From Germans.
Posted by: fd
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It's a "large church" and the Germans are very happy to share their traditions....
Posted by: Ben Had at November 29, 2025 07:11 PM
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[tilts glass... *clink*]
Posted by: TRex - cheers! at November 29, 2025 07:13 PM (IQ6Gq)
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103 * hands Piper an eggnog with a shot of brandy in it*
Posted by: Ben Had at November 29, 2025 07:05 PM (sDNVV)
Bless you.
Posted by: Piper at November 29, 2025 07:13 PM (Wmg4n)
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96 I kick started a bundle of game-advent calendars this year. You get new bits of the game on each day, and at the end you open up the calendar and get a map and rules. Pretty cool actually.
Posted by: Are you sure about this sir? at November 29, 2025 07:01 PM
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Neat idea. Got a link?
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Posted by: Piper at November 29, 2025 07:03 PM
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Stage 1: This is going to be great!
Stage 2: Hard but promising!
Stage 3: This sucks. I hate it.
Stage 4: Wait a minute, this might work.
Stage 5: This turned out great! (but let's never do it again)
[time passes]
Stage 6: Remember when we did that thing? Wasn't that fun? Let's do it again! This is going to be great!
Posted by: TRex - seen this movie before at November 29
Maybe this is the year for a minimalist tree.
Grateful is laughing, isn’t she?
Posted by: Piper at November 29, 2025 07:15 PM (Wmg4n)
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Way, way off-topic, but has anyone ever done a study why we humans make that certain ahhhh sound after we sip coffee? We even, naturally, make particular facial expression. You know what I'm talking about.“
By a unique coincidence, it chemically triggers the Fart Reaction.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 07:16 PM (3U2FH)
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* looks at wine glass and goes ahhh*
Posted by: Ben Had
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Wine glass...and wine...that's what I'm missing! BRB...
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"Stage 1: ...Stage 6:" applies to so many other projects too. Still, excellence is rarely easy.
Posted by: fd at November 29, 2025 07:17 PM (vFG9F)
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101 We have a wooden Christmas tree advent calendar. It’s old and cute.
Ribboning a fresh Christmas tree is a bazillion times harder than a fake tree- and I can ribbon up a tree, y’all. I am stepping back for a bit because at this moment, I want to set it all on fire.
Posted by: Piper at November 29, 2025 07:03 PM (Wmg4n)
Ummm, one should not joke about fire with a real tree...says the person who put up my shiny 7ft fake pine tree yesterday in about 45 minutes, start to finish and fully decorated...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 29, 2025 07:17 PM (tOcjL)
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110 ... "Most of the religious stores are no longer in business...but many convents have gift stores, or are a source to identify where you can find these items. As are the staff in a church office. Good luck!"
The Grateful,
Thanks for the suggestions. The religious stores in town have closed in recent years. I suspect mail order like Amazon did them in or the owners retired.
Posted by: JTB at November 29, 2025 07:18 PM (yTvNw)
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Have heard it all now. We have bigots in this country who do not like red and green decorations. Well, don't come around my house. I would HATE to insult you.
Posted by: Case at November 29, 2025 07:18 PM (5Je/N)
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Posted by: Piper at November 29, 2025 07:03 PM
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Stage 1: This is going to be great!
Stage 2: Hard but promising!
Stage 3: This sucks. I hate it.
Stage 4: Wait a minute, this might work.
Stage 5: This turned out great! (but let's never do it again)
[time passes]
Stage 6: Remember when we did that thing? Wasn't that fun? Let's do it again! This is going to be great!
Posted by: TRex - seen this movie before at November 29
Maybe this is the year for a minimalist tree.
Grateful is laughing, isn’t she?
Posted by: Piper
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No, his response was mocking me...if you want to join me, please do.
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116 96 I kick started a bundle of game-advent calendars this year. You get new bits of the game on each day, and at the end you open up the calendar and get a map and rules. Pretty cool actually.
Posted by: Are you sure about this sir? at November 29, 2025 07:01 PM
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Neat idea. Got a link?
Posted by: TRex - lost even with a map at November 29, 2025 07:15 PM (IQ6Gq)
Thought about doing one of those escape game themed ones...but it seemed like 24 days to solve the box might be a bit much...you'd either only open it every weekend, or get sick of it by day 15...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 29, 2025 07:19 PM (tOcjL)
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"It's a "large church" and the Germans are very happy to share their traditions....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba"
If it involves chocolate, I'm all for it.
Posted by: fd at November 29, 2025 07:19 PM (vFG9F)
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Ummm, one should not joke about fire with a real tree...says the person who put up my shiny 7ft fake pine tree yesterday in about 45 minutes, start to finish and fully decorated...
Posted by: Nova Local
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45 minutes? Seriously? That is heresy....
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Mini-tree farm: I have about 10 trees of various sizes currently, including the planned sacrifice for this year I forget when I started officially; I collect pine tree babies for my yard and just see who survives. The official start was probably 6 years ago. Pine trees grow pretty fast in the PNW. The babies are easy to get, too. My mother's yard is absolutely thick with them, like weeds. I just pull up a handful every time I visit.
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at November 29, 2025 07:20 PM (5da0R)
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128 Ummm, one should not joke about fire with a real tree...says the person who put up my shiny 7ft fake pine tree yesterday in about 45 minutes, start to finish and fully decorated...
Posted by: Nova Local
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45 minutes? Seriously? That is heresy....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at November 29, 2025 07:20 PM (IQ6Gq)
My spouse and I, with the kids, have it down to a science. Tree is in 3 parts and spouse handles that and the tree skirt. I do the star, lights, and tinsel with my tallest girl, and then the other 3 kids get ornament duty. All while Pantatonix Christmas album plays. We didn't even finish the album yesterday.
That said, I still need to do my 90% off After Christmas sale outdoor solar lights...which are still kicking after 10 years...I have one BIG bush to decorate at my townhome, and it lets me have Christmas lights for no out of pocket every year...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 29, 2025 07:22 PM (tOcjL)
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45 minutes? Seriously? That is heresy....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at November 29
Right? How is this even possible?
Posted by: Piper at November 29, 2025 07:25 PM (Wmg4n)
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Business partner is very craftsy and I try so for 30 years Christmas was exchanging homemade Christmas decorations. When a 10 ft tree could no longer hold them all it was time to call a halt.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 29, 2025 07:26 PM (sDNVV)
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We finally gave in to my allergies and got a fake tree when we made the move here in '20.
I miss the fun of choosing the tree, and the scent of it -- we usually got Charlie Brown-type trees, and the gaps and flaws just made it fun.
Now it's just the same old fake tree and I miss that part of Christmas.
Posted by: TecumsehTea at November 29, 2025 07:27 PM (+4S8X)
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131 45 minutes? Seriously? That is heresy....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at November 29
Right? How is this even possible?
Posted by: Piper at November 29, 2025 07:25 PM (Wmg4n)
Ummm, practice? We now do the roles we're best at, thus why the art kid helps me with lights and tinsel...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 29, 2025 07:28 PM (tOcjL)
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My spouse and I, with the kids, have it down to a science. Tree is in 3 parts and spouse handles that and the tree skirt. I do the star, lights, and tinsel with my tallest girl, and then the other 3 kids get ornament duty. All while Pantatonix Christmas album plays. We didn't even finish the album yesterday.
Posted by: Nova Local
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Helpers! What a great concept! I am quite envious....
137 My spouse and I, with the kids, have it down to a science. Tree is in 3 parts and spouse handles that and the tree skirt. I do the star, lights, and tinsel with my tallest girl, and then the other 3 kids get ornament duty.
Posted by: Nova Local at November
Ahhhh… I see the issue here. No one will decorate with me. Something about being way too rigid about how and where things go. I don’t know, seems a little dramatic, but good heavens you can’t just put the same colors next to each other like we are heathens or something! 🤣
Posted by: Piper at November 29, 2025 07:29 PM (Wmg4n)
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Little kid with chocolates advent calendar races through opening all the little doors the first week.
Grown-up with miniature booze bottles advent calendar does the same.
😁
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The first year we were married we had about 4 ornaments. We picked out our tree and had a Christmas party and asked all our friends to just gift us an ornament. I still have those, 48 years later.
The tree had lots of little pine cones on it, which we did not realize until it had been up about a week, in the warm and cozy apartment. We started hearing these little popping noises, and didn't realize what it was until we took the tree down. It was the pine cones starting to open. We collected as many as we could find and kept them, and I put them out in a basket every Christmas.
Posted by: TecumsehTea at November 29, 2025 07:30 PM (+4S8X)
Posted by: TecumsehTea at November 29, 2025 07:30 PM (+4S8X)
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We're not doing much decorating this Christmas. We're looking for a small fake tree for our small fake apartment. Both sons have other plans for Christmas. But it's okay. I'm still gonna do a nice dinner for me and my bride.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide at November 29, 2025 07:31 PM (0aYVJ)
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135 Helpers! What a great concept! I am quite envious....
Posted by: The Grateful - Acta Non Verba at November 29, 2025 07:28 PM
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I help! (ish)
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I don’t know, seems a little dramatic, but good heavens you can’t just put the same colors next to each other like we are heathens or something! 🤣
Posted by: Piper
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100% correct.
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The elf always has to go underneath the ice skater in the short skirt!
Posted by: Ben Had at November 29, 2025 07:34 PM (sDNVV)
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Of all times to miss the Hobby Thread.... I had never heard of Advent Calendars, never had one as a kid, or knew anyone who had one.
About 10 years ago, I saw some gorgeous wooden ones, and bought one for Thor, my mama and myself, and we just live it. No religions significance for us, despite my having a devoutly Catholic husband, just lots of fun little gifts. We go w a y overboard, and half don't even fit in the little drawers, but we enjoy it. It has replaced atockings for us, and It's nice to stretch the fun out a little bit. We do the 12 Days of Christmas, too, starting on Christmas Day, obviously, so our Holiday season stretches til Epiphany.
I do Advent calendars for my 2 closest friends, too, and get various LEGO Advent calendars for certain kids.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 29, 2025 07:35 PM (Vvh2V)
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141 We're not doing much decorating this Christmas. We're looking for a small fake tree for our small fake apartment. Both sons have other plans for Christmas. But it's okay. I'm still gonna do a nice dinner for me and my bride.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Bonafide at November 29, 2025 07:31 PM (0aYVJ)
I'm working this Christmas, just as I did Independence Day and Thanksgiving.
Posted by: Eromero at November 29, 2025 07:35 PM (LHPAg)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 29, 2025 07:36 PM (ULPxl)
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Posted by: TecumsehTea at November 29, 2025 07:30 PM (+4S8X
What a lovely story!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at November 29, 2025 07:37 PM (Vvh2V)
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I just filled my kids advent calendar up. It gets more expensive every year and the candy selection to choose from gets smaller and worse. Of course my kids are big and one is in college so this won't go on for much longer.
But the advent calendar was always one of their favorite Christmas traditions.
Posted by: lin-duh at November 29, 2025 07:45 PM (VCgbV)
Y’all are amazing. I have no cool traditions to carry on. My parents isolated themselves from their families, so that cultural tradition was nil. And then, it was just me and my boys with a fake tree and cheap ornaments.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 29, 2025 07:50 PM (mT+6a)
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Advent Calendars were not a thing when and where I grew up. I was only dimly aware of them.
Hobby related? Went out to the warm shop this afternoon, and scrapped out an old worm-drive Skilsaw that proved to have a burned-out motor. Rendered it down to aluminum, steel, brass and copper bits. And saved the motor brushes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 07:53 PM (npFr7)
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and, I'm willowed.
Posted by: TecumsehTea at November 29, 2025 07:30 PM (+4S8X)
Nah, this is where the cool kids hang while the others go to the Movie Thread.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 08:05 PM (npFr7)
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Nah, this is where the cool kids hang while the others go to the Movie Thread.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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I love it...and I respect your talents with motors. Wish we lived closer so I could learn from you...
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Advent calendar is a set of drawers. 2 years ago I filled each drawer with an airline sized bottle of vodka. Probably shouldn’t mention that to Father David.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 29, 2025 08:26 PM (VjSGz)
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Oh, no! A thread about Advent wreaths & calendars and Christmas trees & ornaments-- and I missed it!
Well... not into movies, so...
Each of 'us kids' got to hang our own special ornaments on the tree each year. Dad would put on the strings of lights, then unplug them so we could see the gaps better. Mom & kids had hot cocoa and put on the ornaments while listening to what we now call "classic" Christmas carols: Bing, Ray Conniff, Nat Cole... you know the ones!
And then, the moment of truth---
All the ornaments in place.
Everyone gathered 'round..
*plug in the lights*
Oooh! and Aahhhhh!
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 09:00 PM (rdVOm)
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Dad attached candle holders to a circle of plywood, for our Advent wreath. Mom would cut fresh greenery each weekend, to cover the plywood. She'd light the candle(s) at dinner each night.
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 09:06 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: main slot demo at November 30, 2025 06:17 PM (JAfK5)
Ace of Spades Pet Thread, November 29
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Good afternoon and welcome to the almost world famous Ace of Spades Pet Thread. Thanks for stopping by. Kick back and enjoy the world of animals.
Would you like a treat?
Let's relax a little with the animals and leave the world of politics and current events outside today.
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The horses of Iceland are the original Viking horses and one of the purest horse breeds in the world. Breed has been isolated on the rugged island in North-Atlantic since the settlement, or over 1000 years ago
Hi, KT, this is Caiwyn from the AoSHQ comments section.
I wanted to share the catio I built over the last month. My cats, Augie (short for Augusta) and Merlin both love watching the squirrels in the back yard. Merlin in particular wants to chase them outside, but his grey coat makes him nearly invisible at night and I don’t want to risk him being hurt. They are both indoor cats.
So to give them more of a taste of the outdoors I built them a catio! It’s 4-foot by 2-foot enclosure just outside the back window, made of 2x4 beams, 3/4-inch plywood shelves, and a large sheet of PetScreen. They access it through the window when it’s open, and it gives them multiple vantage points for watching birds and squirrels. So far they seem to like it!
Very impressive! A sure sign that your cats are loved! Thanks for showing us so many building details.
Meet The PetMorons
Hey, KT! This is my golden retriever Finn. He'll be a year old on 11/29, and has grown into a handsome boy. He's currently in full teenage hellhound phase, which we're hoping he'll grow out of soon!--Jordan61
Happy Birthday, Finn! We love you! You don't look like a hellhound.
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1. Treat time! Winnie (Left) is thinking that maybe this time she does not have to sit. Kroger (Center) flopped down quickly. I told Rose (Right) to sit and she climbed into bed with Kroger.
To give you an idea of my initial concern, Kroger does *not* share his space very well but for the sake of a Yaky Puff, he was willing to overlook Rose's transgression.
2. Kroger with his new bed and his bear.
3. Winnie (right) deigning to let Cole share a dog bed. With some help from great hoomans. Kroger will share with his bear!
NR Pax
Doggie siblings learning to be siblings!
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Our Pepper dog in 2006. Miss her something awful. Eromero
Awww. A sweet dog, still remembered.
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Thank you for sharing your pets and animal photos and stories with us today. I am missing details on a couple of submissions.
If you would like to send pet and/or animal stories, links, etc. for the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, the address is:
petmorons at protonmail dot com
Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known when you comment at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.
Until next Saturday, have a great week!
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If you start feeling nostalgic, here a link to last week's Pet Thread, the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, November 22
I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.
Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by meow at November 29, 2025 03:40 PM (sAmhv)
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Went to Iceland last year, very nice. But the horses are still pissed at the Norwegians for bringing them there.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 03:40 PM (sl73Y)
85 NR Pax that first photo looks like it is part of a Norman Rockwell painting
Thanks! I was happy with how it turned out.
And I loved the catio picture. We have a covered patio on our front yard and when we had the cats, we set up a door on a window so they could go in and out. Got funny sometimes when a dog was watching them jump into the house. They thought it was a kitty dispenser.
Posted by: NR Pax at November 29, 2025 03:41 PM (7xrfc)
Did updates to our cat blog yesterday and Thursday. Unfortunately, it is a sad one.
https://tinyurl.com/4k65zjkx
Love the catio. Always wanted one for our cats.
Posted by: Joyenz at November 29, 2025 03:48 PM (2F0/Y)
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What a lovely catio! Lucy would love something like that! Alas, rental.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 29, 2025 03:49 PM (cjxpX)
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It's a rare, not taking Jake to the lake day. Just too windy and cold.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 29, 2025 03:49 PM (+mUZM)
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Finn is adorable! And I loved seeing the greyhounds, NR Pax. Sorry about your cute dog, Eromero.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 03:49 PM (DiLbP)
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Caiwyn, that is great work! I'm guessing that is a basement or "garden-level" window, since it's so close to the ground. For a standard first-floor window, I suppose one would have to add supports of some kind?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 29, 2025 03:49 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 03:50 PM (DiLbP)
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Saw that, Joyenz. But she died at home and I think that's how cats prefer to go.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 29, 2025 03:50 PM (+mUZM)
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I renumbered and added additional catio photos.
Posted by: KT at November 29, 2025 03:51 PM (7vIsy)
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Oh, wait, Caitwyn, I see that window is just a bit lower than the one next to it, and that the catio has the lower level they can access.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 29, 2025 03:52 PM (wzUl9)
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Hey, KT! This is my golden retriever Finn. He'll be a year old on 11/29, and has grown into a handsome boy. He's currently in full teenage hellhound phase, which we're hoping he'll grow out of soon!--Jordan61
Beautiful young man. I had a golden for 17 years. Makes me sad/happy to see them.
Posted by: javems at November 29, 2025 03:56 PM (8I4hW)
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Ah, bitter Wolverine tears being shed in Ann Arbor this afternoon. My OSU Buckeyes crush that Team Up North.
O-H I-O!
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 29, 2025 03:57 PM (mH6SG)
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Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 29, 2025 03:50 PM (+mUZM)
It's just hard to watch. We were trying to arrange a squeeze in at our vet to end her suffering, but she went before I could make the call. My sister was at work and I was taking video to show her Callie's breathing. Turned out to be her last breaths I recorded.
Posted by: Joyenz at November 29, 2025 03:57 PM (2F0/Y)
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Thanks, Fen. It's hard to tell from that first shot since it's only my legs but I was freaking out a bit with Rose landing next to Kroger. Thankfully, the power of Yaky Puff forgives a lot of transgressions.
Posted by: NR Pax at November 29, 2025 03:58 PM (7xrfc)
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Oh Finn is so cute! He will be normal on his 3rd birthday. 🙂 and the greyhounds! I love them.
Posted by: Piper at November 29, 2025 03:58 PM (OoFl2)
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Thank you for the Pet Thread, KT. Always a treat.
Posted by: olddog in mo at November 29, 2025 04:00 PM (bQ4nt)
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The catio is very cool, my Savannahs would be THRILLED.
The Christmas tree has been procured and set up. Decorating now. The cats are so excited to see a tree in the living room. The dog is panicked, because everything new gives him an anxiety attack for a bit. He went with us to get it and was very brave until they threw it on top of the car. He lost his shizzle then. But he is trying!
Posted by: Piper at November 29, 2025 04:02 PM (OoFl2)
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My Killer Kittenz From Outer Space are doing well. Big black Stirling is out here in the living room near me, and little gray Dagny is curled up on the bed. She was set to sleep with me, but I discovered I was not meant to nap today. So I got up and had some milk, and here I am.
I guess puppies go through the hellbeast stage just as kittens do. It was why I originally wanted a more settled adult cat, say, two to three years old. Somehow, though, these two kittens won me over -- as kittens will.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 29, 2025 04:05 PM (wzUl9)
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I’ve met Finn. He’s even more handsome in person! And a golden goofball.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 29, 2025 04:07 PM (cjxpX)
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Quick paper on the timing of domestication of cats,
Spoiler: European domestic cats were brought in starting about 2000 years ago
https://tinyurl.com/5n9bknn7
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 04:07 PM (rbvCR)
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I put a bunch of old nuts out in the planters on the edge of the deck. Freddie the Freeloader (red squirrel) has discovered them and is beginning to hoard them. Meanwhile, the dogs are watching closely for any possible slip and fall by said squirrel, and occasionally rooting on said behavior. Much squeaking and squealing ensues.
Dogs don't read or watch tv, but they do like the live action shows.
Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 29, 2025 04:12 PM (6Bc88)
31Quick paper on the timing of domestication of cats,
Spoiler: European domestic cats were brought in starting about 2000 years ago
https://tinyurl.com/5n9bknn7
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025
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Does this mean there were no cats in early Republican Rome and Ancient Greece?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 29, 2025 04:14 PM (wzUl9)
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Not a pet, but I had a wonderful experience at my friend's house. Our son is looking after their cats while she and her husband are away. The cats tend to take off when someone shows up they don't really know, but we got them all fed and litter boxes cleaned
Anyway. about the non pets. Friend has a lovely deck and nice bird feeders. We saw a female cardinal along with her mate. It always makes me happy to see a male cardinal. I had one dear congregation member who had several elegant tee shirts with cardinals on them. She said it made her think of the Holy Spirit. I think the same.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 04:18 PM (As86G)
We saw a smaller woodpecker over at my friend's house as well. I am thinking I should get a bird feeder and put it on our patio.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 04:28 PM (Nx5jP)
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Side note: Three of the greys we were babysitting went home and the other two go home tomorrow. It's going to be quiet with only two greys but we'll manage.
Unfortunately, Kroger has some kind of problem with his legs and he's on crate restriction for a day or two. He is NOT happy about this development in his life.
Posted by: NR Pax at November 29, 2025 04:29 PM (7xrfc)
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A song for the weenie dog lovers, bluegrass style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLvCRNLn4Nw
Posted by: huerfano at November 29, 2025 04:30 PM (98kQX)
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Will Kroger's leg issues resolve after being crated for a while, NR Pax, or you have to go to the vet?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 04:31 PM (Nx5jP)
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I remember the time years ago I saw a raccoon close up. Relatively close, anyway. I was walking to my car, taking the route that leads by the (now closed and neglected) pool I once used to swim in, when my eye was caught by motion in a tree.
It wasn't a cat as I first thought: It was a raccoon. (He or she) looked like a full-grown one, larger than any house cat. He stared calmly back at me. Naturally I took care not to approach and startle him, and after a few minutes I walked on to my car. When I came back five minutes later he had moved on.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 29, 2025 04:32 PM (wzUl9)
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Come to think of it, Mrs. Wolfus No. 1 and I did have a raccoon in Lafayette who used to rifle our garbage cans. We'd hear it out there and open the screen door with the lights off, to see the big grey furball and his sparkling yellow eyes.
One of our cats, Mitzi the red tabby, wanted to go out there and fight that thing. She was an average size for a house cat and would have had zero chance. We made sure not to open the screen door!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 29, 2025 04:35 PM (wzUl9)
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I think I saw a email about a champion dog that disappeared (the message, not the dog).
Posted by: KT at November 29, 2025 04:42 PM (7vIsy)
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Finn is currently trying to rip off his birthday bandana. I did get a few good pictures.
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 29, 2025 04:42 PM (r+pQK)
4338 Will Kroger's leg issues resolve after being crated for a while, NR Pax, or you have to go to the vet?
We've had him at the vet and the diagnosis was a muscular degeneration. Thankfully it was not osteosarcoma which is a disease that really hates greyhounds for some reason.
Right now, we are trying to manage things with medication and lowering his activity level.
Posted by: NR Pax at November 29, 2025 04:43 PM (7xrfc)
How could you say such a terrible thing about Finn? I'm sure he's just horribly misunderstood!
(That being said, I love Goldens. I appreciate the world view of "There are friends and friends I have not met yet.")
Posted by: NR Pax at November 29, 2025 04:44 PM (7xrfc)
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Dogs don't read or watch tv, but they do like the live action shows.
Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 29, 2025 04:12 PM (6Bc8
We have a very large front window in this old Victorian house. Seriously, about 5 x 6 ft. I call it the dog tv. We have a large ottoman in front of it, and they love to lie on that with their chins on the windowsill, watching the world go by.
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Posted by: Jordan61 at November 29, 2025 04:42 PM (r+pQK)
Have you had a Golden Retriever before, Jordan, or this is your first?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 04:46 PM (PFs9e)
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Have you had a Golden Retriever before, Jordan, or this is your first?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 04:46 PM (PFs9e)
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He's our first. We had beagles before him. They passed about 5 years ago.
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 29, 2025 04:47 PM (r+pQK)
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Regarding Icelandic Horses: The first trip my wife and I took that required a passport was to Iceland and my first horseback riding experience was on one of them.
Furry barrels but I had a nice one.
Posted by: NR Pax at November 29, 2025 04:49 PM (7xrfc)
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Posted by: Jordan61 at November 29, 2025 04:47 PM (r
Sorry about your beagles. We had one. She was very energetic to say the least . I hope you have lots of of fun with Finn.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 04:51 PM (zMLZ6)
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The weather here is cool but not cold. I'm sitting with the front door open and screen door shut. Stirling is settled on the nearer end table, posed like the Le Chat Noir poster cat, keeping an eye on whatever passes by.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 29, 2025 04:53 PM (wzUl9)
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My Paisley doesn't like me being on my phone when I should be paying attention to her. And she has ways of letting me know.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at November 29, 2025 04:53 PM (kTd/k)
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Well I made it back from my sister's in Atlanta.
"Yay you're back! But what's this??" says Bruno. "Strange dog smell! "
SNIFF SNIFF SNIFF SNIFF SNIFF SNIFF
I explained to him where I went and after two pupperonies he forgot all about it.
Posted by: fd at November 29, 2025 04:56 PM (vFG9F)
Posted by: fd at November 29, 2025 04:57 PM (vFG9F)
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We have some fence wire that we put inside the front porch rails to keep Spooky kitty from escaping when she's outside. She can't see anything but she hears and smells and seeks sunshine well enough.
Posted by: fd at November 29, 2025 05:01 PM (vFG9F)
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Tomorrow my daughter*s loving and faithful dog, Kaya, will pass on to her rest. Kaya was a badly abused young dog. My daughter made it her mission to rescue Kaya, and they have shared a decade of abundant love between them. Kaya*s body has turned against her, and my daughter has been a wonderful DogMom and nurse, but her pup’s misery has reached that difficult decision point. We will always love Our Baby Kaya-Kaya. Thank you God, for giving this wonderful pup to my daughter, and giving my daughter to this wonderful pup.
Posted by: SuperCountyJudgeCansidateSuperRonNirenberg-No Longer Mayor, But Still Buff As Heck at November 29, 2025 05:07 PM (Go6qm)
56"Yay you're back! But what's this??" says Bruno. "Strange dog smell! "
SNIFF SNIFF SNIFF SNIFF SNIFF SNIFF
I explained to him where I went and after two pupperonies he forgot all about it.
Posted by: fd at November 29, 2025
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The late red tabby part-Coon, Arizona, had a routine. When I came home after a lengthy period, such as work or a date, he would greet me at the door . . . but he would not let me pet him right away. He'd duck his head away from my hand, while sniffing my legs and shoes. Only when he'd finished doing that, verifying my identity I guess, would he let me pet him.
On the other hand, Marie-Antoinette, the smart black medium-hair, was always there to greet me. Once I came back from a three- or four-day business trip, during which a responsible cat-loving neighbor came in to feed and play with her. I stepped in to see Marie at the far end of the couch. She let out a yowl that was clearly a "Where've you BEEN???" That cat could communicate like nobody's business.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 29, 2025 05:07 PM (wzUl9)
57I wanted to share the catio I built over the last month.
This is inpressive.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 29, 2025 05:10 PM (55kM1)
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Posted by: SuperCountyJudgeCansidateSuperRonNirenberg-No Longer Mayor, But Still Buff As Heck at November 29, 2025 05:07 PM (Go6qm)
Sorry about Kaya. It can be so very hard to have animals go the the vet for the last time. However, that was a lovely post about your caring daughter and her pup.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 05:12 PM (ZeH0U)
We had eight two-legs and five fur-legs for Thanksgiving feast, not counting Ony Cat who spent the day curled up on the bed in the closed-off bedroom. Copious cuisine and canine chaos thankfully enjoyed.
BluebirdOfBitterness.com with the usual two Caturday posts (first one with a raccoon), plus canine pix on Friday post.
These from IOTWreport or BlazingCatFur, one or t'other, can't remember.
Car v pigeon ad
https://youtu.be/T7kW5eWk9g4
Moose v cop car X vid
https://x.com/Marin_0x/status/
1994104060207944096
Cat fun X video
https://x.com/HumansNoContext/
status/1994356892416499837
This morning on the Prayer Thread, I posted a comment that was offensive to Roman Catholic theology. It precipitated responses, of course. I saw that it was neither in my best interests, or those of the blog, to continue the fight, and retreated to lurker status.
So, though as a lifelong adherent of traditional Protestantism, (and I admit that woke has destroyed mainline Protestantism), I stand by my belief, I confess that it was wrong of me to bring it up on the Morning Prayer Thread, which is supposed to be a forum for piety and spiritual comfort.
Therefore, I apologize for my anti-Catholic posts this morning, and I pray that my Roman Catholic friends on this blog will forgive me. It won't happen again.
God bless and be with you all.
Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025 05:15 PM (77rzZ)
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Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025 05:15 PM (77rzZ
God bless and be with you, Bulg.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 05:18 PM (ZeH0U)
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Finn is a real beauty, Jordan61. You've only got another three years or so until he grows out of puppyhood! Trust me, I'm on GR #5.
Posted by: IrishEi at November 29, 2025 05:21 PM (3ImbR)
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Was watching tv when I saw,some movement at the cat door flap, when I knew the cat was in the basement. Watched a raccoon snout poke through.
Pushed against the flap with my boot, but raccoon kept trying to come in. Lifted the flap to try to push out with my cane, and he still kept coming. Looked a little more, and noticed two or three more raccoons lined up behind him.
Got the plastic door in over the flap before the invasion was complete.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 05:21 PM (sl73Y)
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Soldiers and their K9's . Video from iowntheworld site:
https://tinyurl.com/ru3bpsfu
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 05:22 PM (ZeH0U)
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Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 05:21 PM (sl73Y)
Good for you. That was quite some story!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 05:23 PM (ZeH0U)
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FaTT, never had a wild critter come through the cat flap, but we've had several occasions where cats we don't own came in.
Much excitement and barking and hissing, and even breakage of planters one time!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 29, 2025 05:24 PM (9ipOP)
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Bulg, you voiced an opinion, not an insult. No apology needed, but thought accepted.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 05:24 PM (sl73Y)
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I've had skunks and possums, and other cats, come in on their own, and several rabbits, alive and dead, brought in by the cat. And mice, many mice.
Most of my hunting has been done in my home.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 05:28 PM (sl73Y)
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I'm drinking Bulleit Rye over a single large crystal clear ice cube and enjoying face time with Lily.
We're nose to nose, trading tongue-licks, her front feet on my tummy. Half her 20-pound weight on me. She's a red-headed tricolor with these amazing razor-thin black lines running in a gibbous-moon shaped curve away from the outside corner of her eyes, across the snow-white features of her upper cheeks, to dime-sized jet black dots and beyond and sbove there's the red, as blazing a red as a celtic warrior's mane.
She stops licking, sniffs my lips, and turns to watch the Wisconsin-Minnesota game on the TV, being played in the snow. She was in snow, up in NW IL, just a few days ago, but now we are in subtropical FL, and there are gators to avoid.
Posted by: M. Gaga at November 29, 2025 05:36 PM (KiBMU)
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Northernlurker, Glad to hear Paisley is with you. Have you moved to new quarters? Still writing?
Posted by: Mrs JTB at November 29, 2025 05:14 PM (
Moving on Monday.
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at November 29, 2025 05:36 PM (kTd/k)
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Bulg, comments like yours (at 61) are rare on the Internet. One of many reasons I come back here every day.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 29, 2025 05:38 PM (wzUl9)
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M. Gaga, I'm not sure despite your mention of Lily's twenty-pound weight. Is she a dog or a cat?
And noodus hobbyana
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 29, 2025 05:39 PM (wzUl9)
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Lily's a corgi, a pandemic dog. Our former girl, Lulu, RIP, was a belgian sheepdog same size and look of Soleil, the belgian that won best in show at the recent big event.
Posted by: M. Gaga at November 29, 2025 05:42 PM (KiBMU)
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Bulg,
You threw a turd in the punch bowl. You do it frequently to get attention. It’s beneath you.
There’s no reason to intentionally offend people.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 29, 2025 05:50 PM (cjxpX)
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We laid to rest the cat of a close friend today in a lovely cemetery in the San Gabriel Mountains. Our friend passed away in an accident late in September, and we inherited her two Maine Coon cats. The one that passed away was 14 years old, a dear old friend, and a relative our Maine coon in our clowder at the time. I don't like to share sad things, but there it is. The happier aspect is that we still have another of our friend's Maine coons, one of the HUGE type, who is still young and growing, and for many years, God willing, will keep our dear friend Terry fresh in our hearts.
Current clowder: 5, 3 Maine coons, 2 normies. Plus 3 large dogs.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 29, 2025 09:12 PM (w6EFb)
Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, Nov 29
This is a miniature Phalaenopsis, pretty undemanding! Found it in a grocery store plant department last year, in bloom. It bloomed again this month, with more blooms than before. It hadn't been tagged with a species name but after an image search this time I'm pretty sure it's Phal. Sogo Vivien. I keep it in an east window along with other plants, and a grow light hanging above them all.
I got curious and looked up SOGO. Turns out they're "SOGO Orchids CO., Ltd. is a leading global company specializing in Phalaenopsis breeding and young plant production based in Taiwan." There are a LOT of SOGO orchids for sale on the web!
Lirio100
Bet there are several "non-gardening" members of The Horde who could garden on a windowsill. Thanks for the great information.
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Couldn’t resist on Friday buying these tulips for Mrs. BD.
Regards from Jerusalem,
Biden’s Dog
Just lovely!
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Edible Gardening/Putting Things By
Last week, we had a special feature on hazelnuts from a commercial grower in The Horde.
A regular contributor to the Gardening Thread,
our hazelnut tree bore fruit! We've had it for a few years, and it has flowered, but never made any nuts. While walking the yard recently, we saw one little nut cluster on the ground under it!
And, a hedge apple photo because I saw it.
Grimmy/Moron Analyst/Intrepid Liaison/Admiral Ackbar
Some things we learned last week might help increase his yield. The details about pollination were remarkable.
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From By-Tor:
Pecan tarts, one of my contributions today.
Easy to make if you have a mini-muffin tin and a tart shell press. Here's the recipe I used but there are many out there, all about the same.
I would like to try them for Christmas with chopped, toasted hazelnuts.
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Gardens of The Horde
The Camellia bushes have suddenly started blooming in my neighborhood. I love the unexpected pop of bright color when all the other flowers are gone or are fading fast. I associate Camellias with southeastern states, but I'm wondering if they grow elsewhere.
The Pilot
How fun to have those flowers this time of year!
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At the bottom of this hill I found some Witch Hazel blooming down by the creek last weekend.
fd
Witch hazel is a hardy shrub or small tree that produces eye-catching, fragrant yellow blooms in the wintery landscape. Native to North America, it grows best in mild climates, in full sun, and in moist, slightly acidic, well-draining soil. Witch hazel is also beloved for its tendency to attract pollinators and songbirds and for its deer-resistance.
Be sure to check out the hazelnut/filbert catkin photos from last week's thread (link at the end of this post) to see why witchhazel and hazelnuts may both have "hazel" in their names.
They kind of look like these slime molds (probably "insect egg slime mold) submitted by Aimee at Everything Backyard Chicken, too. At least in color.
Found in a backyard chicken run. It won't hurt you.
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Hope everyone has a nice weekend. If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening Thread, the address is:
ktinthegarden at g mail dot com
Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.
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Week in Review
What has changed since last week's thread? Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, Nov. 22
Any thoughts or questions?
I closed the comments on that post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 29, 2025 01:25 PM (mOv6P)
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Good afternoon Greenthumbs
Besides leaf collecting and processing, going slowly.
Tomorrow is the family yearly Christmas grave wreaths making.
We make over a dozen grave Christmas markers with greens, ribbons and other Christmas decorations.
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 01:35 PM (Ia/+0)
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There is a small stand of Osage orange trees here, they are not native to Oregon. This batch I believe were planted as part of a hedge for a horse paddock for one of the local pioneers, who brought horses in from his original home in Tennessee.
I wanted some tough trees that might survive in a slide area where the Oregon ash grow now, so I gathered some of the hedge apples for the seeds and prepped them by chopping them into chunks and letting them rot in a box of dirt over winter, and then I dug up the sprouts the next spring and planted them in proper pots. I am going to transplant them this spring.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 01:36 PM (rbvCR)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 29, 2025 01:36 PM (ctEtP)
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so I gathered some of the hedge apples for the seeds and prepped them by chopping them into chunks and letting them rot in a box of dirt over winter, and then I dug up the sprouts the next spring and planted them in proper pots. I am going to transplant them this spring.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 01:36 PM (rbvCR)
And then, and only then, they will all be eaten by the deer.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 29, 2025 01:38 PM (d5Mi/)
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Happy Thanksgiving weekend K.T. I love this thread: new ideas for recipes, plants, flowers, and trees, plus some beautiful photos.
Posted by: The Pilot at November 29, 2025 01:41 PM (M+4Y9)
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I have my first sprinkler system after moving to my new home. Now I have to research how to winterize it. I don’t imagine it’s that difficult.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 29, 2025 01:42 PM (KDPiq)
8And then, and only then, they will all be eaten by the deer.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 29, 2025 01:38 PM (d5Mi/)
Maybe, maybe not. The young trees are spiny as wild rose. I can chop down some brush and the deer may decide to eat those green leaves that don't have so many thorns.
I have lots of the seedlings, though. The Emerald ash borer is getting into this area and killing off the Oregon ash, and I want some sort of tree that can stand having wet roots part of the year and isn't cottonwood or willow, and Osage seems to fit the bill.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 01:42 PM (rbvCR)
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Now all Lirio100 has to do is drink beer and solve murders, and you're set!
Posted by: Eeyore at November 29, 2025 01:50 PM (s0JqF)
Posted by: KT at November 29, 2025 01:54 PM (7vIsy)
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Would think draining the piping in a sprinkler, can't be a switch out to some liquid that's not freezing
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 01:55 PM (Ia/+0)
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I admit to re-reading the parts about Nero's greenhouse. It's a toss up though between the greenhouse and his chef.
Posted by: Lirio100 at November 29, 2025 01:57 PM (ky7/T)
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Around here landscaping companies offer sprinkler blowouts. Depending on the setup some may just have a valve that would let them drain but its seems it is common to do the blowouts. Our well won't keep up with a whole lot of watering, and the horses get first dibs on water, so I've never looked into installing sprinklers.
Posted by: PaleRider at November 29, 2025 02:00 PM (hhkIi)
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TBH - I pay someone to "winterize" my irrigation system. I think he blasts air through the pipes to clear out any water that is left.
Posted by: The Pilot at November 29, 2025 02:02 PM (M+4Y9)
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Beautiful pictures as usual. I’d always heard of witch hazel - it’s used in many herbal remedies as an antioxidant, among other things, but I never knew it was so lovely.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 02:02 PM (3U2FH)
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If you don't winterize the sprinklers in good time you'll get to replace some of the heads where ice cracked them.
Posted by: PaleRider at November 29, 2025 02:04 PM (hhkIi)
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Time to wander off. Thanks to the green thumbs for posting the lovely pictures.
Posted by: PaleRider at November 29, 2025 02:07 PM (hhkIi)
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Lovely photos as always. I've always been fascinated by slime molds.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 29, 2025 02:13 PM (CHHv1)
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Pilot that is what I am thinking happens, that or fill the system with alcohol, scotch maybe
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 02:14 PM (Ia/+0)
Posted by: The Pilot at November 29, 2025 02:18 PM (M+4Y9)
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Re winterizing: Look around for signs / ads offering 'blowouts' - they use a large air compressor to get water out of the lines. (Garage size compressor not likely to be adequate unless it's a very small system.)
Posted by: Pat*'s Hubbie at November 29, 2025 02:21 PM (+EWjf)
Mama Publius had a brief stint in the hospital. On Wednesday, when we were picking up our turkey dinner at Publix, I found a bouquet of 5 peonies (I don't think I've ever seen peonies in a grocery store before). The buds were large and one was opening. I bought them, praying the blooms wouldn't sag and poop out. They were so heavy! Fortunately, she was released on Thanksgiving in time for dinner.
Anyway, 3 have bloomed as of this afternoon, and the other two are getting ready. It's fun to watch the blooms get larger and larger as they unfurl. And the scent is lovely. I'll try to get someone to take a picture so I can send it in for next week.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 29, 2025 02:22 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: The Pilot at November 29, 2025 02:29 PM (M+4Y9)
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I'm seeing the first tiny footsoldiers of Snowmageddon drift down. Brace yourselves, Midwesterners!
Got a Baker Creek seed catalog in the mail, which is the FAO Schwartz catalog for gardeners. I love looking, but A) I have ALL the seeds, and B) I may just buy plants at the nursery next year, since they have many good heirlooms now. Tho I may start a Thorburn's Terra Cotta, which did rip-snortingly this growing season.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 29, 2025 02:30 PM (kpS4V)
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All Hail Eris -- I'm watching The Ohio State-Michigan game and it's started snowing in Ann Arbor. It began as a few lazy flakes, but is now coming down hard. Not sure how these players keep their footing.
Posted by: The Pilot at November 29, 2025 02:33 PM (M+4Y9)
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Please keep your snow and don't let it move eastward
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 02:35 PM (Ia/+0)
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Baker Creek is gardem pr0n - my go-to for seeds.
For those who are deciding on which tomatoes to grow in 2026, I recommend Terra Cotta (acidic and delightful, a green/orange interior) and Black Strawberry. The latter grow in long clusters and are 1 - 1 1/2" in diameter, don't have any tendency to rot prematurely, and hold up on the vine or in a bowl for a long time. Very bountiful and flavorful, in salads or for sauce.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 29, 2025 02:36 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Emmie -- be strong and courageous! at November 29, 2025 02:47 PM (FMtrg)
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I went around and replaced all my outdoor faucets with freeze proof self draining yard hydrants. I had to do one but the fight with the stutoff valve convinced me it was time to never use it again so I did all four. I think next time I use the shutoff will be it's last so I can't just shut it all off for winter anymore.
I'd rather have the yard water on all year anyway.
Posted by: Reforger at November 29, 2025 02:58 PM (03GBw)
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We only got an inch or two of snow last night. This morning the wind chill was -35F. Right now, the actual temperature is 21F.
Posted by: Archer at November 29, 2025 02:59 PM (YGRGv)
Posted by: Adriane the Not Cynical Enough Critic . . . at November 29, 2025 03:03 PM (3ZUWJ)
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Thanks for the recommendation for Black Strawberry, Miley.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 29, 2025 03:09 PM (kpS4V)
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Witch hazel is beautiful and very fragrant. I used to have a large one in my front yard when I was married. You could smell it from the street.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 29, 2025 03:13 PM (cjxpX)
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Heh...Osage Orange trees are pretty freakin cool. But, you definitely don't want to park your car under one.
Posted by: Orson at November 29, 2025 03:18 PM (dIske)
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we got a light dusting of snow this morning. 27mph wind with gusts to 43mph. right at 32 degrees and headed down to 16 tonight. will be cold tomorrow, with possible snow again on Monday.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 29, 2025 03:23 PM (+mUZM)
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 03:36 PM (Ia/+0)
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Not even 40 comments. I know it's not gardening season but this is weak. Must be turkey hangover.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 03:37 PM (sl73Y)
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It’s been a slow weekend all around, and not just online
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 04:10 PM (3U2FH)
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I'd rather have the yard water on all year anyway.
Posted by: Reforger
Make sure to unhook hoses. Won't drain properly with those on... ask me how I know, right?
Posted by: MkY at November 29, 2025 05:04 PM (q6tQZ)
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From Boise area: lows 28-36 F, highs 45-48. Some foggy mornings, some light frost, a little drizzle.
I did some composting, plus a lot of leaf raking and bagging. Also trashed the final tomato vines - still need to move squishy tomatoes to compost.
Husband did some leaf shredding and tree trimming. He also cleaned up and put away all the apple cider equipment, plus the patio table and bench. He's currently mow-mulching leaves in areas where they aren't dense enough to rake up.
Our row of blue spruce now has trees big enough to cut for Christmas trees. We've taken the bottom branches off this year's selection, and will make a wreath out of them - tomorrow, in the garage, if the promised snow hits tonight. I'll put leftover small pieces of spruce in decorative baskets to brighten up the main rooms.
Posted by: Pat* at November 29, 2025 05:57 PM (+EWjf)
Happy Thanksgiving Weekend! How many times did you hear, before Thanksgiving, "Are you ready for Thanksgiving"? Do you expect to hear in the upcoming weeks anything like, "Are you ready for Christmas"?
Who knows? Some things in life are predictable and other thngs are unpredictable.
It was just the two of us this year for Thanksgiving, and we tried to prepare for leftovers (especially after losing one of our refrigerators) by stretching the traditional Thanksgiving treats over several meals. But we still have leftovers. One faux pas so far: yesterday was "cook the turkey breast day", and I didn't realize that there was a gravy base packet inside the breast. I guess that makes up for the giblets and neck usually packaged with a whole turkey. But I had never seen one before. The gravy base packet got baked, too.
The plastic packet did not melt. I gamely tried to rescue the contents but some of the thickener had transformed into something resembling masses of amphibian eggs, and would not thin out. Oh, well. I added a can of chicken gravy and served it anyway.
I can't imagine anything like this occurring in, say, France.
Do people fry turkey breasts whole like they do whole turkeys? Frying one of these gravy packets could be a disaster. When I put the leftovers away, I added drippings from baking the turkey breast to the meat to keep it fresh-tasting, but the rescued gravy has been kept separate, perhaps for use with a future batch of aromatic dressing.
But on to some real content: The Jewish people have become masters of transforming remnants into renewal
The roasted masterpiece that emerges proudly on Thursday afternoon will, by Friday morning, become a pale, slightly accusatory presence concealed in Tupperware or aluminum foil—what a food writer in The New York Times once called a “ghoulish reminder” of the day before—carved, dismembered, and waiting to be transformed into something, anything, edible.
By Friday, it will be turkey noodle soup. By Saturday, turkey enchiladas. By Sunday, turkey sandwiches. And by Monday, we will swear—once again—that we are done with turkey until next November.
But there’s a quiet wisdom buried in all that culinary improvisation. As the late Rabbi Robert Kahn of Houston’s Congregation Emanu El once said: Anyone can cook the turkey. The real creativity, the real art, lies in what we do with the leftovers.
Bible stories and intriguing thoughts at the link.
Whenever I think about leftovers—not food, but the leftovers of life—I find myself drawn back to Torah. As Jacob prepares to meet Esau after decades of estrangement, he divides his household, saying in effect: “If one group falls, perhaps a remnant will survive.” Jacob is planning for at least part of his tribe to become, well, leftovers. In the Book of Job, messengers come one after another with catastrophic news, each ending their terrible report with the chilling refrain: “I alone have escaped to tell you.” The last remaining witness. All that is left.
This year—as we look toward Thanksgiving—it feels impossible not to hear echoes of Job. Jewish anxiety has become a constant background hum, especially with the ever-increasing antisemitism coming from all sides. The simple act of gathering in joy feels both necessary and fragile. The story of Job is not ancient history. It is the emotional soundtrack beneath our holiday preparations.
So, before we even carve the turkey, we must ask: What do we do with what remains? What do we do with the fragments—the leftover hope, the leftover courage, the leftover faith—that we carry into this season?
Here is what I know: The Jewish people have become virtuosos of leftovers. . .
Have you prepared some leftovers worth keeping?
Preparing for the Predictable
Niall Ferguson:
Earlier this year, someone started a viral trend of asking ChatGPT this question: If you were the devil, how would you destroy the next generation, without them even knowing it?
Chat’s responses were profound and unsettling: “I wouldn’t come with violence. I’d come with convenience.” “I’d keep them busy. Always distracted.”
“I’d watch their minds rot slowly, sweetly, silently. And the best part is, they’d never know it was me. They’d call it freedom.”
As a social psychologist who has been trying since 2015 to figure out what on earth was happening to Gen Z, I was stunned. Why? Because what the AI proposed doing is pretty much what technology seems to be doing to children today. It seemed to be saying: If the devil wanted to destroy a generation, he could just give them all smartphones.
The evidence keeps piling up.
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Ready for technological changes?
There are some malevolent characteristics of tech described just above. But what if it quits working altogether?
AoSHQ got off pretty light in the recent Cloudflare disruptions. But how would we communicate if something more serious or long-lasting happened?
What if the electrical grid went down?
What are our back-ups? Know anyone who does ham radio?
I have decided that one thing I can do right now is give some people manual can openers that really work for Christmas. And get some cash on hand. I'll be thinking about communications, too.
Got any readiness plans for the near future?
These are some readiness plans at the UN. Makes you wonder if they have read any recent news:
Climate change is deepening inequalities — and increasing the risk of gender-based violence for women and girls.
Weekend
VDH discusses a recent event in which he participated, in Bakersfield, CA. He is heartened by the development of some conservative organizations there, in a difficult state, climate, etc. Segment starts at about 41 minutes, just after he discusses the travails of the editorial process for a real book.
On this episode of “Victor Davis Hanson: In His Own Words,” Victor Davis Hanson and @jackfowler take aim at the six congressional Democrats who called on military members to defy “illegal” orders from the Commander-in-Chief.https://t.co/9GodSjgeSz
There has been some opposition to individual conservatives in Bakersfield in the recent past. If they can make progress there, maybe some other communities can do some similar things.
Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.
This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.
Serving your mid-day open thread needs
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Last week's thread, November 22, Preparing for Thanksgiving - Gratitude
Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.
1he roasted masterpiece that emerges proudly on Thursday afternoon will, by Friday morning, become a pale, slightly accusatory presence concealed in Tupperware or aluminum foil—what a food writer in The New York Times once called a “ghoulish reminder” of the day before—carved, dismembered, and waiting to be transformed into something, anything, edible.
By Friday, it will be turkey noodle soup. By Saturday, turkey enchiladas. By Sunday, turkey sandwiches. And by Monday, we will swear—once again—that we are done with turkey until next November.
But there’s a quiet wisdom buried in all that culinary improvisation. As the late Rabbi Robert Kahn of Houston’s Congregation Emanu El once said: Anyone can cook the turkey. The real creativity, the real art, lies in what we do with the leftovers.
The author completely fails to mention turkey stock - the foundation of many poultry-based dishes for the year to come. Don't throw out all those bones, necks, giblets, etc., reuse them to make something delicious!
Posted by: Archimedes at November 29, 2025 11:07 AM (Riz8t)
2Climate change is deepening inequalities — and increasing the risk of gender-based violence for women and girls.
Of course it is. Everything does.
Get a new schtick - this one is worn out.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 29, 2025 11:08 AM (Riz8t)
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TG is NOT over for me. We have my wife's large family coming over today, so we're completely replicating the dinner we already had on the official TG day, but with a 23 lb "turkey".
Posted by: Archimedes at November 29, 2025 11:09 AM (Riz8t)
Posted by: Archimedes at November 29, 2025 11:11 AM (Riz8t)
7Poll Shows Cornyn Slipping to Third in GOP Senate Primary
51 percent of likely Republican voters hold an unfavorable view of the incumbent senator, according to the polling. https://shorturl.at/UJ5h5
Texas Scorecard
Only 51%?! Do better, Texas!!!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 29, 2025 11:11 AM (ULPxl)
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Electric can openers have always been the most frivolous, space wasting appliance. The hand operated model is simple, easy to use, and fits easily in a drawer. Unless you’re Captain Hook or a paraplegic, what purpose is there in “upgrading” from that?
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 11:12 AM (3U2FH)
9Poll Shows Cornyn Slipping to Third in GOP Senate Primary
I can't wait for him to be publicly humiliated and tossed out on his condescending backside.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 29, 2025 11:12 AM (Riz8t)
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Wild turkeys are savvy and able to survive and thrive in the wild. Domestic turkeys are very dumb creatures. Kind of like humans in cities.
Posted by: Sweet Rural Shade at November 29, 2025 11:12 AM (oftw2)
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Like a newbie,
Read the post at the very first time .
La la la.
Posted by: RI Red at November 29, 2025 11:12 AM (+hwtP)
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Sorry Archie, everyone still arguing religions on the prayer thread.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 11:13 AM (sl73Y)
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All that’s left is a bit of pumpkin pie. Everything else has been eaten.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:14 AM (uDDWT)
14Sorry Archie, everyone still arguing religions on the prayer thread.
Again???
Posted by: Archimedes at November 29, 2025 11:14 AM (Riz8t)
158 Electric can openers have always been the most frivolous, space wasting appliance. The hand operated model is simple, easy to use, and fits easily in a drawer. Unless you’re Captain Hook or a paraplegic, what purpose is there in “upgrading” from that?
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 11:12 AM (3U2FH)
I hate you.
Posted by: Michelle Fields at November 29, 2025 11:15 AM (PiwSw)
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Electric can openers have always been the most frivolous, space wasting appliance.
Agree. Thank god nobody invented an electric vegetable peeler.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 11:15 AM (sl73Y)
17Earlier this year, someone started a viral trend of asking ChatGPT this question: If you were the devil, how would you destroy the next generation, without them even knowing it?
Chat’s responses were profound and unsettling: “I wouldn’t come with violence. I’d come with convenience.” “I’d keep them busy. Always distracted.”
If ChatGPT said that, it is not because of silicon based reason, it is because it has encountered a number of documents in its training data that express this sentiment and algorithmically associate this to the query.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 11:16 AM (a4flb)
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8 Electric can openers have always been the most frivolous, space wasting appliance. The hand operated model is simple, easy to use, and fits easily in a drawer. Unless you’re Captain Hook or a paraplegic, what purpose is there in “upgrading” from that?
Posted by: Tom Servo
When you wear out your thumbs by age 60, don't come crying to me!
Posted by: Prince Albert In The Can at November 29, 2025 11:16 AM (oftw2)
I save the bones, extra skin, etc. but I know that some folks do fancy stuff like roasting bones and veggies. Before or after baking a turkey?
Posted by: KT at November 29, 2025 11:17 AM (7vIsy)
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I remember having electric can opener growing up. I guess it was a thing back then? I concur with the sentiment that it’s a dumb, space waster providing no real value.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:17 AM (uDDWT)
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15 8 Electric can openers have always been the most frivolous, space wasting appliance. The hand operated model is simple, easy to use, and fits easily in a drawer. Unless you’re Captain Hook or a paraplegic, what purpose is there in “upgrading” from that?
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Severe arthritis is why. It hurts to open a can that way. And Hamilton has a safe edge electric can opener that is the cat's meow. Opens the can around the top edge of the can rather than inside edge. Result, smooth edge and much less risk of cutting oneself.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 11:17 AM (WDjG6)
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From about That Time at November 29, 2025 11:15 AM
Someone gave us an electric potato peeler as a wedding present.
Posted by: KT at November 29, 2025 11:18 AM (7vIsy)
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As I've aged, I miss risk taking adventures.
A hand can opener is a poor substitute, but all I've got.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 11:19 AM (sl73Y)
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NJ is about to give everybody a lesson in what happens if you don’t get off your ass to vote. They are staffing up the New Governor AWFL’s administration with Biden retreads convinced they just don’t try hard enough with their agenda. They already have some of the highest energy prices in the country and that’s about to get worse. So is the tax situation and the general business malaise they have created. On top of that the nanny state is encouraged and likely to start going down the list of rights they don’t want you to have starting with the Second Amendment. The schools are about to get worse and illegal aliens are being given everything meant for citizens, and nothing they deserve.
Congratulations. This is what our country will look like if people don’t decide that voting in the midterms is more important than their vacation to Turks.
Posted by: Vengeance at November 29, 2025 11:19 AM (egaJw)
Posted by: Scion of Wealth And Privilege at November 29, 2025 11:19 AM (oftw2)
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If ChatGPT said that, it is not because of silicon based reason, it is because it has encountered a number of documents in its training data that express this sentiment and algorithmically associate this to the query.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 11:16 AM (a4flb)
Starting with Aldous Huxley, Brave New World. He remembered to add in drugs as well.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 11:20 AM (3U2FH)
27I save the bones, extra skin, etc. but I know that some folks do fancy stuff like roasting bones and veggies. Before or after baking a turkey?
I do that. It all depends on whether you want a "white" or "dark" stock. I find that the former lacks all conviction, so I do the latter. Some of the stuff (giblets, neck, etc.) can be done at any time, but obviously the bones from the roast turkey have already been roasted. Still, a bit of time in the oven caramelizes the remaining shreds of meat and there's lots of flavor there (think fond). I don't really know how the collagen in the bones survives the roasting but I do know that after I'm done and the proto-stock has been cooled in the frig overnight, it assumes a gelatin consistency so there's lots of collagen there.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 29, 2025 11:20 AM (Riz8t)
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>>> Electric can openers have always been the most frivolous, space wasting appliance. The hand operated model is simple, easy to use, and fits easily in a drawer. Unless you’re Captain Hook or a paraplegic, what purpose is there in “upgrading” from that?
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 11:12 AM (3U2FH)
I had a nice B&D electric can opener. You could take it off it's wall mount and place it on a can and it would just spin around opening it. I loved it. But the batteries inside failed after about 20 years and I couldn't figure out how to replace them. So I have a hand crank one now which will last longer than I do. But if they could make the B&D model with better batteries, or a MrFusion inside, I'd buy it in a second.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 29, 2025 11:22 AM (3uBP9)
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Congratulations. This is what our country will look like if people don’t decide that voting in the midterms is more important than their vacation to Turks.
Posted by: Vengeance
People on the right have this bad habit of voting for President then forgetting about politics for the next 4 years.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:22 AM (uDDWT)
30Electric can openers have always been the most frivolous, space wasting appliance. The hand operated model is simple, easy to use, and fits easily in a drawer. Unless you’re Captain Hook or a paraplegic, what purpose is there in “upgrading” from that?
There is no more effective device on this planet to ferret out a hidden or missing cat than by using an electric can opener on a can of wet cat food.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 11:23 AM (a4flb)
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 11:24 AM (Ia/+0)
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Congratulations. This is what our country will look like if people don’t decide that voting in the midterms is more important than their vacation to Turks.
Posted by: Vengeance
You might be idly interested in the fact that suddenly 500k voters for teh Dems materialized on Election season that had not voted regularly before.
Or not.
I don't think you can trust any voting system in the US today for accurately representing the will of the people because at heart, the Democrats rely on electoral cheating and rigging in order to stay in power.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 11:24 AM (WDjG6)
BREAKING: President Trump says the airspace “above and surrounding” Venezuela is now “closed in its entirety.”
It appears that something is about to happen in Venezuela.
https://is.gd/c5Q4Hv
Posted by: Archimedes at November 29, 2025 11:25 AM (Riz8t)
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Posts on various sites purporting that airspace in and around Venezuela is "closed" to all commercial air traffic.
So, it would appear Maduro has reached the FO part of FA.
Perhaps.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 29, 2025 11:26 AM (NwnyJ)
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Do people still buy trash compactors? It was a popular prize on game shows in the 70s, 80s.
Posted by: The Joker's Wild at November 29, 2025 11:26 AM (oftw2)
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My area always goes yuuuugely Republican in presidential elections. And every other race that happens in that election. We have governor, state reps and senate and county races in presidential years. It’s deep deep red each time.
We have local elections in odd years following presidential elections. There, the left wins decisively every time. Just happened this past election. Complete sweep of every office by the left. Wasn’t even close.
Why? Because turnout in odd years is 1/3 of what it is in presidential years. The right stays home the left shows up. Can’t win a game where you’re not even playing.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:26 AM (uDDWT)
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>>> I save the bones, extra skin, etc. but I know that some folks do fancy stuff like roasting bones and veggies. Before or after baking a turkey?
Posted by: KT at November 29, 2025 11:17 AM (7vIsy)
I smoked my turkey, and in the drip pan below I placed the bones, skin, and stuff with some veggies. All next to the coals. So you get turkey dripping into it all and being roasted the whole time. I used the dripping for the stock that I made stuffing with. I'm still figuring out how to smoke in the kettle, specifically how to get the temps to stay low and steady.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 29, 2025 11:27 AM (3uBP9)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 29, 2025 11:27 AM (NwnyJ)
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Ok, fine. Let's talk about the leftovers. Soup - who eats soup anyway ?! quesadilla , tacos - Mexican slop! Sandwiches - this is the way to go.
Posted by: runner at November 29, 2025 11:27 AM (g47mK)
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There is no more effective device on this planet to ferret out a hidden or missing cat than by using an electric can opener on a can of wet cat food.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure
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Most cans seem to be pull tops now. But, they have the same effect. My cat will come running if he hears that. The other 3 cats have differing reactions.
If you keep blaming it on fraud nothing will ever change. It’s not 500k new votes or whatever. It’s turnout. They show up, we don’t. It’s that simple.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:28 AM (uDDWT)
42Do people still buy trash compactors? It was a popular prize on game shows in the 70s, 80s.
They existed for one reason: Garbage collection companies charged by the bag or by the volume of garbage being picked up.
The answer for us was to burn as much as possible, food scraps to their place and crush everything else into one carry-on luggage sized bag of twisted metal and broken glass.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 11:28 AM (a4flb)
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Vmom, I've been sewing for decades, and still stick fingers and break needles. Occupational hazard.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 29, 2025 11:29 AM (cYBz/)
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Two houses ago I had a trash compactor. House was built in 2005 which was surprising to have it. But I liked it. Cut down on the number of trips to the garbage bin by a lot.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:29 AM (uDDWT)
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@5 That was very close to being a Singer haiku.
If you can get the bobbin tension right, you'll have a new art form.
"Prince Albert in The Can." There's a blast from the past:
Lots of cans, including the tobacco tin, used to have a self-opener key that wound up a little strip of metal as it peeled the can open. The strip of metal was sharp, but dangerously attractive. Cute.
Tuna cans, sardines, Argentine bully beef, some coffee. I miss that.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 29, 2025 11:30 AM (zdLoL)
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We have one drumstick, which I'll eat today. A bit of ham, pie, and dressing left. It will all be gone today.
BREAKING: President Trump says the airspace “above and surrounding” Venezuela is now “closed in its entirety.”
It appears that something is about to happen in Venezuela.
https://is.gd/c5Q4Hv
Posted by: Archimedes at November 29, 2025 11:25 AM (Riz8t)
Something Wonderful
Posted by: Dave Bowman at November 29, 2025 11:30 AM (3uBP9)
50If you keep blaming it on fraud nothing will ever change.
Since politicians routinely lie to us, I'm fully willing to lie to them and say it isn't their policies that they need to lie about, if they want to maintain power as Republicans, they need to enact election laws that reduce / eliminate fraud.
They can continue to be lying weasels and garden variety reprobates, but try rigging the game in their own favor at least by pretending that their supporters outnumber the enemy's and a win is simply to deny the enemy the ability to manufacture enough ballots to "win" an "election".
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 11:31 AM (a4flb)
51
in 2019. after a post by my stepson's girlfriend, trying to borrow an egg because she was out, I decided to take action for Christmas. I got a copy of "Food Security for the Faint of Heart", a favorite because it also talks about gardens. I got some preserved stuff that she normally wouldn't know about like canned bacon, butter and preserved eggs. I don't know if the lesson took, but I think it did. I upgraded my dehydrator and canner and gave her my originals. And I took another look at what I had on hand.
But this is your !reminder, if coffee is the most important thing for you, it's very simple to put together a kit to have coffee even when the power goes down. I have that stuff and I don't even drink coffee
Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 29, 2025 11:31 AM (+mUZM)
52
Are we seriously going to war against…… Venezuela?
Maybe we can dust off the purple paint Dubya used in Iraq for their elections.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:32 AM (uDDWT)
53
My cat will come running if he hears that. The other 3 cats have differing reactions.
Posted by: lin-duh
What, does everyone in the house have their own cat?
I can see some great arguments around the litter box.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 11:33 AM (sl73Y)
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Prime Award Amount: $46,001,627
Prime Awardee: U.S. Committee For Refugees And Immigrants, Inc. (Arlington, VA)
Prime Award Description: ensure that all refugees admitted to the United States receive reception and placement services
Sub-award amount: $1,811,644
Sub-awardee: Heartland Human Care Services, Inc. (Chicago, IL)
Subaward Description: The U.S. reception & placement program (R&P) is a private/public partnership and has been providing safe haven to those who have fled their homes in fear of persecution since 1975. USCRI has participated in the R&P program since 1977 and has assisted over 350,000 newcomers, including Afghan evacuees in 2021 and 2022, through funding support from the U.S. Department of State.
X: https://bit.ly/48iRcPn
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 11:33 AM (P5BPp)
55
I should have made this entry on the prayer/100 year war/war of northern aggression thread ! But here is good too !
https://tinyurl.com/mthy9uy9
Posted by: runner at November 29, 2025 11:34 AM (g47mK)
I remember when the WWW was the new hotness, and I was one of those dumb dorks who thought information wanted to be free or somesuch gay ass truism, and my old man put me right.
At the time, I thought he was an out of touch oldster - I have profusely apologized and admitted just how wrong I was many times since.
He told me that the internet was a powerful technology, and if I thought the TPTB would let it be an engine of liberty then I was in for a nasty surprise, because they would harness its power as an engine of tyranny, and sell it to us as an engine of convenience.
Very few predictions anyone has ever made to me turned out more accurately. It's like he had a crystal ball.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2025 11:35 AM (BI5O2)
58
I’m Not saying fraud doesn’t exist. Of course it does. But when an election goes +15 like it did in NJ, that wasn’t fraud.
Fraud is a tight race which suddenly finds 1500 ballots at 4am to put the Dem up by 1200 when he was down by 200. And that happens. Of course.
But when the margin is 500k votes, thats an ass kicking, not fraud.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:36 AM (uDDWT)
59I don't think you can trust any voting system in the US today for accurately representing the will of the people because at heart, the Democrats rely on electoral cheating and rigging in order to stay in power.
That is why a winning slogan of Trump's 2024 victory was "Beat the Cheat".
The Enemy is going to leverage as much fraud as possible, yet Normals have to show up in such numbers that they can even afford to have 5% of their votes lost or changed.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 11:36 AM (a4flb)
60
Vmom, I've been sewing for decades, and still stick fingers and break needles. Occupational hazard.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs!
That reminds me - after Sleeping Beauty was asleep for 100 years, some strange dude breaks into her room and kisses her without permission!?
SHE WAS ASSAULTED PEOPLE!! WAKE UP TO THE MISOGYNY!!! (Literally!)
Posted by: Tonypete at November 29, 2025 11:36 AM (cYBz/)
61
I’ve been thinking that Trump has been pulling a big bluff on Maduro, trying to get him to do something really stupid. But with this I wonder.
I don’t see any need for an actual invasion, Maduro’s government can be broken much more easily than that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 11:36 AM (3U2FH)
62
What, does everyone in the house have their own cat?
I can see some great arguments around the litter box.
Posted by: From about That Time
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Unfortunately, that about sums it up. 2 of my 3 kids have a cat, I have 1, and we have the next door neighbors cat that we have adopted when they pretty much forgot to feed her regularly, my son's cat brought her home....😳🤨
AI infrastructure is driving electricity costs higher:
US industrial electricity prices in the top 5 states with the most data centers have surged +43% over the last 5 years.
These states are Virginia, Texas, California, Illinois, and Ohio.
By comparison, prices have risen +26% nationally over the same period.
Prices in both groups rose at a similar pace up until late 2022, coinciding with the release of ChatGPT in November 2022.
In those 5 states, household electricity costs have increased +7.0% annually since 2022, outpacing the +5.5% national rate.
Consequently, electricity prices in CPI inflation have soared +36% since 2020, while overall inflation has increased +25%.
AI demand is driving household power bills higher.
X: https://bit.ly/4402yVP
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 11:37 AM (P5BPp)
64Fraud is a tight race which suddenly finds 1500 ballots at 4am to put the Dem up by 1200 when he was down by 200. And that happens. Of course.
Insert the famous 2AM Water Pipe Breakage chart where the curves had Biden losing, but mysteriously several million ballots appeared out of thin air causing a vertical spike before resuming the curve.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 11:37 AM (a4flb)
65
I’m skeptical of the AI electricity arguments. Feels a lot like the anti-fracking stuff from 15 years ago.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:39 AM (uDDWT)
66
Trash compactors just get stinky. By the time you fill it everything has the stank.
Stupid idea.
Posted by: Rerorger at November 29, 2025 11:39 AM (lROFx)
67
Very few predictions anyone has ever made to me turned out more accurately. It's like he had a crystal ball.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2025 11:35 AM (BI5O2)
68
I'm about to have a turkey egg and bacon breakfast burrito, then thanksgiving leftovers pizza for dinner, and I'll cook up a batch of turkey curry for another day. Also have a thigh, drumstick, and white meat in the freezer. Stock was made too, of course.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 29, 2025 11:41 AM (kpS4V)
69
Someone gave us an electric potato peeler as a wedding present.
Posted by: KT at November 29, 2025 11:18 AM (7vIsy)
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You laugh! I've got one--the Rotato Express--and I love it. The peel comes off in a thin strip and several years ago one of the kids tried deep frying the strips and it's now become a favorite snack.
Posted by: IrishEi at November 29, 2025 11:41 AM (3ImbR)
US industrial electricity prices in the top 5 states with the most data centers have surged +43% over the last 5 years.
Here is the bullshit narrative as to the cause:
AI infrastructure is driving electricity costs higher:
The Reality:
Gutting your state/country of much of its reliable, dispatchable thermal generated power and replacing it with vanity power projects that cost hundreds of billions and don't yield power on demand is behind the increase. Don't forget the hundreds of billions in rate-payer subsidies to those who installed solar panels to be used in a net power arrangement.
The money made in the utility scale electricity market is not the regulated generation rates, its in the building any form of infrastructure (even if totally worthless or counter productive) and passing the Hollywood Accounting costs to the consumer in the form of higher rates.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 11:44 AM (a4flb)
71
I merely have to say that Lib-Prog sloganeering has become Madlibs
No person is tax neutral
US Supremacy hurts Gender neutrality
Police states is a remnant of Slavery
BLM encourages food equity
Whites inhibit housing justice
Public education is Immigration reform
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 11:45 AM (rbvCR)
72Do people still buy trash compactors? It was a popular prize on game shows in the 70s, 80s.
"Oh what a great idea. I can put a week's worth of trash in one bag."
"Crap, this bag weighs a hundred pounds. What a dumb idea."
Posted by: Oddbob at November 29, 2025 11:45 AM (3nLb4)
73
Yet, holiday cooking disasters are what can make them memorable.
Glad yours wasn't KT
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 11:45 AM (Ia/+0)
74
The Reality:
Gutting your state/country of much of its reliable, dispatchable thermal generated power and replacing it with vanity power projects that cost hundreds of billions and don't yield power on demand is behind the increase. Don't forget the hundreds of billions in rate-payer subsidies to those who installed solar panels to be used in a net power arrangement.
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That’s a BINGO!!
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:45 AM (uDDWT)
75
The dirtiest square inch in your kitchen is the cutting wheel on your can opener! Wash it! Soak it in acetone or Alcohol!
Posted by: Food Safety Commission at November 29, 2025 11:45 AM (oftw2)
76
I've got a whole cherry almond crisp leftover, but no ice cream. I refuse to eat it without ice cream.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 29, 2025 11:46 AM (XvL8K)
77The Reality:
Gutting your state/country of much of its reliable, dispatchable thermal generated power and replacing it with vanity power projects that cost hundreds of billions and don't yield power on demand is behind the increase. Don't forget the hundreds of billions in rate-payer subsidies to those who installed solar panels to be used in a net power arrangement.
The money made in the utility scale electricity market is not the regulated generation rates, its in the building any form of infrastructure (even if totally worthless or counter productive) and passing the Hollywood Accounting costs to the consumer in the form of higher rates.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 11:44 AM
Good point. I wonder how much of the energy cost increase is due to all the idiots in state governments going to unreliable solar and wind power.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 11:46 AM (P5BPp)
78The dirtiest square inch in your kitchen is the cutting wheel on your can opener! Wash it! Soak it in acetone or Alcohol!
Pfffffft!
Posted by: The drain of your kitchen sink at November 29, 2025 11:47 AM (Riz8t)
79
I've got a whole cherry almond crisp leftover, but no ice cream. I refuse to eat it without ice cream.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 29, 2025 11:46 AM (XvL8K)
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Mmmmm. Jergens.
Posted by: IrishEi at November 29, 2025 11:47 AM (3ImbR)
Wife and I when we moved into this place used a grocery bag on the pantry door before we moved the kitchen stuff.
It stuck. We took one look at the can and decided the bag thing was better. I haven't had to clean a garbage can or buy garbage can bags in 23 years.
I goes out every night. New bag in the morning. Never stinks. Bags come with the groceries.
I can't conceive of a better way to do it and compactors are the worst.
Posted by: Reforger at November 29, 2025 11:48 AM (lROFx)
81
Looking back at the strikes we ran on Iran's nuclear enrichment facilities, and the misdirection from the USAF flying tankers and B-2 bombers into the Pacific as a ruse...
.... I don't think the current activity in and around Venezuela is the attack most think is coming. Strikes against the various drug cartels there are certainly likely, but I'd think we would prefer to have Maduro's anti-air capabilities neutered first.
And his air force, such that it is, grounded.
Maduro's going to jackrabbit before it gets to that.
YMMV
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 29, 2025 11:48 AM (NwnyJ)
82
Will the Rotato Express work for manscaping? I always try to look my very best!
Posted by: Beau Brummell at November 29, 2025 11:48 AM (oftw2)
83I’m skeptical of the AI electricity arguments. Feels a lot like the anti-fracking stuff from 15 years ago.
You should be. The Climate Hoaxers who have fleeced us for literally trillions of dollars and have violated the environment with horrid windmill and solar farms and every single carbon trading scheme (which costs hundreds of billions for the sole purpose of rewarding the brokers collecting a vig and the inefficient routing of money).
You think the NGOs the Metas, the Walmarts, the Googles who have brought billions of dollars worth of worthless windmills into the rate charging game for the purpose of tax breaks and carbon trading credits did it because of social altruism?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 11:49 AM (a4flb)
84
>>>Only 51%?! Do better, Texas!!!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
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There are a vast number of people who are rational and are capable of making a rational voting decision but rely 90% on the commercials that they see on TV and 6 o'clock news.
It's an honest dilemma, they are husband/ wife/ mother/ employee/ maid/ handyman etc. They depend on the media to bring them accurate information.
He who has the money and best commercials has the best chance to win.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 11:49 AM (Wt3Iw)
This reads like one of those articles about how millennials are re-creating society by inventing co-habitation, lateral promotions, and mindful spending.....you know: roommates, job-hopping, and budgeting.
Posted by: harbqll at November 29, 2025 11:49 AM (D2KR+)
86The dirtiest square inch in your kitchen is the cutting wheel on your can opener! Wash it! Soak it in acetone or Alcohol!
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Pfffffft!
Posted by: The drain of your kitchen sink
Feed me frequently and keep me warm and moist. Thanks.
Posted by: The bacteria on your dish sponge at November 29, 2025 11:50 AM (3nLb4)
87
The dirtiest square inch in your kitchen is the cutting wheel on your can opener! Wash it! Soak it in acetone or Alcohol!
Pfffffft!
Posted by: The drain of your kitchen sink
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Bleach, alcohol, soap....worst case, move!
88
"Oh what a great idea. I can put a week's worth of trash in one bag."
"Crap, this bag weighs a hundred pounds. What a dumb idea."
Posted by: Oddbob at November 29, 2025 11:45 AM (3nLb4)
Age old conundrum: Get a bag big enough to where you do not have to empty it as often or get a smaller bag that is easier to carry, but fills up overnight it seems.
I think it is between 13 and 30 gal bags. I bounce between the two. Right now I am using 13 gals ones and they seem to fill up quick as thought.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 11:51 AM (bss/y)
89
72 We had a trash compactor. A Thermador. Got it for cheap, and knowing the guys I got it from it probably fell off the back of the truck. High end, noisy, took special bags and pretty damn fussy about what you put in it.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 29, 2025 11:51 AM (gm9Sb)
Posted by: Otto Pen at November 29, 2025 11:52 AM (sJHOI)
91
God I fucking hated those “millenials are totally changing the way we do X” articles. It’s like no honey, you’re just renaming things. You’re still doing what your parents and grandparents did.
Oh and get this, people had sex before you as well. You’re not revolutionizing that either.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:52 AM (uDDWT)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 29, 2025 11:53 AM (L/fGl)
93
I need to remove the old trash compactor in Mom's (now my) kitchen. It's noisy and hard to close and I never use it. I could use that space to store baking sheet pans.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 29, 2025 11:54 AM (kpS4V)
94If you keep blaming it on fraud nothing will ever change. It’s not 500k new votes or whatever. It’s turnout. They show up, we don’t. It’s that simple.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:28 AM (uDDWT)
It is when it is 125% turnout is specific voting areas, dimwit. It is when the State SOS won't allow audits of the voting roles, dimwit.
Stop calling people losers.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 11:54 AM (rbvCR)
95
Will there be a traditional War On Christmas this year?
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at November 29, 2025 11:54 AM (WSkUC)
96
A lot of Ashkenazi "cuisine" is just the art & science of turning trash into nutrients.
"I saw a coyote leave this on the ground. I bet if we boiled it, we could eat it."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2025 11:54 AM (BI5O2)
97
Bleach, alcohol, soap....worst case, move!
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at November 29, 2025 11:50 AM (VCgbV)
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Tactical mini nuke.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 29, 2025 11:55 AM (kpS4V)
98
>>> 77 The Reality:
Gutting your state/country of much of its reliable, dispatchable thermal generated power and replacing it with vanity power projects that cost hundreds of billions and don't yield power on demand is behind the increase. Don't forget the hundreds of billions in rate-payer subsidies to those who installed solar panels to be used in a net power arrangement.
The money made in the utility scale electricity market is not the regulated generation rates, its in the building any form of infrastructure (even if totally worthless or counter productive) and passing the Hollywood Accounting costs to the consumer in the form of higher rates.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 11:44 AM
Good point. I wonder how much of the energy cost increase is due to all the idiots in state governments going to unreliable solar and wind power.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 11:46 AM (P5BPp)
Thank feralgov for bullshit anti-energy regs. Jim SND used to rant every so often about (iirc) 2 or 3 coal plants in the Houston area being dismantled during the JEF admin because they "hurt the air".
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 29, 2025 11:55 AM (ULPxl)
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The dirtiest square inch in your kitchen is the cutting wheel on your can opener! Wash it! Soak it in acetone or Alcohol!
Posted by: Food Safety Commission
BULL SH*T!! The wheel provides immunity from all sorts of ailments. This is as dumb as washing the Chief's coffee mug.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 29, 2025 11:56 AM (cYBz/)
100
When I moved to the country I bought a made in Kansas, "American Brand" wall mounted manual can opener. It worked well for about 10 years. Tried to buy a new one but the company was out of business.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 11:56 AM (Wt3Iw)
101
#94: is already preparing for the midterm results.
SOROS has booked time on those Italian satalittes to change the totals on the voting machines
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at November 29, 2025 11:57 AM (WSkUC)
102
It is when it is 125% turnout is specific voting areas, dimwit. It is when the State SOS won't allow audits of the voting roles, dimwit.
Stop calling people losers.
Posted by: Kindltot
Ok keep blaming the ref because your QB threw 5 interceptions.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:57 AM (uDDWT)
103
Manual can openers. Show of hands! How many here have a P38 on their key ring?
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 29, 2025 11:58 AM (gm9Sb)
104
When I moved to the country I bought a made in Kansas, "American Brand" wall mounted manual can opener. It worked well for about 10 years. Tried to buy a new one but the company was out of business.
Posted by: Braenyard
EZ-DUZ-IT still makes a pretty good handheld one.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 29, 2025 11:58 AM (cYBz/)
105
Oh and get this, people had sex before you as well. You’re not revolutionizing that either.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:52 AM (uDDWT)
Oh, another spoiler: people had and enjoyed sex before 1960! They even masturbated!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 11:59 AM (bss/y)
106
High electric prices is because of leftist and statist intervention. See also education, health care.
As soon as the government touches it, it turns to shit and becomes more expensive.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:59 AM (uDDWT)
Is fraud a problem? Yep, probably an even bigger one, at least in general elections.
But those are both symptoms. The disease is the system that causes those things, because it's so corrupt, and so unaccountable.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2025 11:59 AM (BI5O2)
108
Might be safe to say Dearborn won't be having outside Churchmans celebrations
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 11:59 AM (Ia/+0)
109
Ok keep blaming the ref because your QB threw 5 interceptions.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:57 AM (uDDWT)
Is that you, Dan Marino?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 12:00 PM (bss/y)
110
Also manual can openers. I get most of my groceries delivered from Wally World, and not being fussy get a lot of Great Value stuff. I would say over 80% of their canned goods have ring pulls.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 29, 2025 12:00 PM (gm9Sb)
111Good point. I wonder how much of the energy cost increase is due to all the idiots in state governments going to unreliable solar and wind power.
Georgetown, TX got into a 25 year fixed-price deal in 2017 to purchase large amounts of solar and wind power.
They seriously over-purchased power with the intent on selling the surplus at a profit to ERCOT.
They thought that this was a winning plan because NatGas was rather pricey at the time, but the market shifted. Because of the contracts the city was forced to sell its power into the grid at substantial loss (think 10s of millions of annual $$ lost) Massive rate hikes were imposed (20%+) to cover the losses.
So while the cost of generation fell, the government's long term fixed-price contract ended up making Georgetown non competitive for energy using industry and also making Georgetown more expensive.
I know of many other such evils foisted on the public by corrupt and feckless politicians (and the Mayor who did this was an R who wanted to politically fellate Al Gore)
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 12:00 PM (a4flb)
112
The money made in the utility scale electricity market is not the regulated generation rates, its in the building any form of infrastructure (even if totally worthless or counter productive) and passing the Hollywood Accounting costs to the consumer in the form of higher rates.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 11:44 AM (a4flb)
That is a great point that many forget. One of the factors that helps kill nuclear for 40 years besides enviroweenie-ism was the way construction of new plants became phenomenally expensive. Primarily due to the Hollywood Accounting you refer to.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 12:01 PM (3U2FH)
113
Electric can openers have always been the most frivolous, space wasting appliance.
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Nonsense!
I rescued my parents GE combination Electric Can Opener & Knife Sharpener + Kitty Attractor (I poached the neighbor’s Tabby with that thing, running it out the window - ruuhhr ruuhhr ruhhr is like Catnip to them)
It was a beautiful Avocado Green, natch.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 29, 2025 12:01 PM (Bpotg)
114
For added protection from the Italian vote talking satalittes lining the inside of a red MAGA hat with a double thickness of aluminum foil was recommended by RFKjr
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at November 29, 2025 12:02 PM (WSkUC)
115Ok keep blaming the ref because your QB threw 5 interceptions.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:57 AM (uDDWT)
Mommy's busy with her friends, go play.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 12:03 PM (rbvCR)
116
113 Heh. Mom and Dad had the complete set. Toaster, electric can opener, and Poly coffee percolator, all in Avocado Green. Matched the fridge.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 29, 2025 12:03 PM (gm9Sb)
117
Back in the day, there was a great Pizza Hut ad. "....flaming turkey."
My mom had Turkey Tetrazini. And of course, there were turkey sandwiches for lunch.
But yeah, by Sunday, pizza was desired.
Posted by: no one at November 29, 2025 12:03 PM (GLn15)
118
Wasteful, throwaway society we have. Some folks junk perfect running, barely broken in, KIAs because of a small dent and some paint scratches.
Posted by: Inventiveness To Infinity at November 29, 2025 12:04 PM (oftw2)
You have to use more than two layers of today's cheap aluminum foil.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 12:04 PM (bss/y)
120God I fucking hated those “millenials are totally changing the way we do X” articles. It’s like no honey, you’re just renaming things. You’re still doing what your parents and grandparents did.
Oh and get this, people had sex before you as well. You’re not revolutionizing that either.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:52 AM
I remember ace had a post a while back where there was some new term "co-living" or some such. And ace said "congratulations, you're talking about having roommates".
Just watched this Hoe_Math video last night. Apparently, younger Millennials and Gen-Z are calling casual dating "situationships" now.
LINGO [How your WORDS are making your life SUCK] [with the Situationship Evasion Chart]
YouTube: https://bit.ly/4p5eHB9
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 12:04 PM (P5BPp)
121
Vmom, my grandmother used to say, If you never have to rip it out, you'll never live to wear it out.
Posted by: Wenda at November 29, 2025 12:04 PM (/WpRi)
Posted by: no one at November 29, 2025 12:04 PM (GLn15)
123
If “fraud” manufactured 500k votes in NJ, then how did Trump win? Because if the Dem fraud machine can create 500k votes out of thin air in NJ they could create 50k votes in Nevada and Arizona and 100k votes in Michigan and Pennsylvania.
So why didn’t they? Or did they just suddenly figure out how to do that in 2025?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 12:05 PM (uDDWT)
124
122 I preferred the "Harvest gold" color more.
Posted by: no one at November 29, 2025 12:04 PM (GLn15)
I thought that was goldenrod?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 12:05 PM (bss/y)
125
My Daughter deep fried her turkey with paper toweling inside..She was using them to make sure the turkey was dry.. No harm no "fowl" It didn't affect it...
Posted by: It's me donna at November 29, 2025 12:06 PM (VE6XX)
126
Ok keep blaming the ref because your QB threw 5 interceptions.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 11:57 AM (uDDWT)
Is that you, Dan Marino?
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Had to look it up to confirm it actually happened with Marino. And it did.
The record is nine in one game, set by Jim Hardy for the Chicago Cardinals in 1950.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 29, 2025 12:06 PM (XvL8K)
127
>>>The Reality:
Gutting your state/country of much of its reliable, dispatchable thermal generated power and replacing it with vanity power projects
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PJDT is putting an end to that. We had ample coal fired and natGas plants to run our state and sell excess to others. Biden fixed that.
You may laugh, you may scorn but these AI Magnificents building multiple small form nuclear plants will develop, within less than five years, technologies allowing a proliferation of small form nukes enough to put Big Power on its heels.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 12:06 PM (Wt3Iw)
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121 Vmom, my grandmother used to say, If you never have to rip it out, you'll never live to wear it out.
Posted by: Wenda at November 29, 2025 12:04 PM (/WpRi)
Haha! My grandmother, NOT a perfectionist, used to say, "You'll never see it on a galloping horse."
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 12:07 PM (uDDWT)
131
saw a coyote leave this on the ground. I bet if we boiled it, we could eat it."
A turd?
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 29, 2025 12:07 PM (KYNqM)
132
All through the nice weather, Mr. troubles hasn't been interested in coming inside. Too many important things to do. After a couple of hours outside in the snow today, he is sprawled onmy lap with this "I love you so much" look.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 29, 2025 12:08 PM (+mUZM)
133
So why didn’t they? Or did they just suddenly figure out how to do that in 2025?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 12:05 PM (uDDWT)
To be fair, I do not think anyone is making a fraud argument without including 2020.
My point that does not make sense:
-there was obvious fraud in 2020, and people swallowed it. People were sent to jail for denying, protesting, the full jack boot nine yards.
-2024? Too risky? Not believable? I don't know and cannot account for it.
It does not make sense to me.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 12:08 PM (bss/y)
134
Mommy's busy with her friends, go play.
Posted by: Kindltot
Wow. Wicked burn bro. I’m feeling that boomer energy. lol.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 12:08 PM (uDDWT)
135
Dash, I like your grandmother's approach better than mine!
Posted by: Wenda at November 29, 2025 12:08 PM (/WpRi)
136
I would venture in 2020 they did.
After that election, heard a report that in Pennsylvania during the summer, Delaware County was putting in more mail votes than the rest of the state together. So like August Delaware County out voted the rest of the state's voting.
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 12:09 PM (Ia/+0)
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116 113 Heh. Mom and Dad had the complete set. Toaster, electric can opener, and Poly coffee percolator, all in Avocado Green. Matched the fridge.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 29, 2025 12:03 PM (gm9Sb)
Heh, I grew up with the avocado green kitchen. Set off by the dark green textured carpet.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 12:09 PM (3U2FH)
138
paper toweling inside..She was using them to make sure the turkey was dry.
WHAT?!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 29, 2025 12:09 PM (KYNqM)
139
Just watched this Hoe_Math video last night. Apparently, younger Millennials and Gen-Z are calling casual dating "situationships" now.
LINGO [How your WORDS are making your life SUCK] [with the Situationship Evasion Chart]
Don't let them change your language.
When relating to you force them to use your language.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 12:10 PM (Wt3Iw)
140
saw a coyote leave this on the ground. I bet if we boiled it, we could eat it."
A turd?
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 29, 2025 12:07 PM (KYNqM)
A slow roadrunner?
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 29, 2025 12:10 PM (d5Mi/)
141
They blocked the voting machines from connecting to the foreign servers.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 29, 2025 12:10 PM (+mUZM)
142Wow. Wicked burn bro. I’m feeling that boomer energy. lol.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 12:08 PM (uDDWT)
Mommy is having coffee, baby. Go play.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 12:10 PM (rbvCR)
143
Where did the fraud occur in 2020? 15k ish votes in Georgia. 5k in Nevada. 10k or so in AZ. It’s small numbers of votes that were created to get Biden over the top. It wasn’t 500k like the claim people are making in NJ.
When you lose in a landslide and call it fraud, you’re just refusing to accept reality.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 12:10 PM (uDDWT)
144
I would think why 2020 and not 2p24?
Maybe doing that incredible fraud, doing it twice would have been a heavy handed and easily brought down that house.
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 12:11 PM (Ia/+0)
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138 paper toweling inside..She was using them to make sure the turkey was dry.
WHAT?!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 29, 2025 12:09 PM (KYNqM)
If you're cooking a turkey in hot oil you need to make sure it is dry if not it will spatter
Posted by: It's me donna at November 29, 2025 12:11 PM (VE6XX)
146
The dirtiest square inch in your kitchen is the cutting wheel on your can opener! Wash it! Soak it in acetone or Alcohol!
Posted by: Food Safety Commission
Another win for the hand can opener, straight to sink or dishwasher.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 12:11 PM (sl73Y)
147
Had to look it up to confirm it actually happened with Marino. And it did.
The record is nine in one game, set by Jim Hardy for the Chicago Cardinals in 1950.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 29, 2025 12:06 PM (XvL8K)
Marino had a cannon for an arm, but his offensive line was always shit. Never had time to see whether he could really be one of the all time greats because he made a lot of what look to be boneheaded throws under pressure.
Now Montana from the same time looks like a genius (and he was) with a weaker arm, but he also had a hell of a lot more time to make the throw. (I think the same argument can be made for the little shit playing flag football, Tom Brady. Little fucktard never even got a nose bleed.)
Mileage may vary.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 12:11 PM (bss/y)
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137 Plaid Herculon furniture in the living room. Or when you go to Grammas, the plastic covers that only come off if the Pope plans a visit.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 29, 2025 12:11 PM (gm9Sb)
1492 or 3 coal plants in the Houston area being dismantled during the JEF admin because they "hurt the air".
East Texas, not only being the oil producer that won WW2, has loads of lignite coal (the lowest grade of coal) and was often blended with bituminous coal. It was primarily the high sulfur content that was on the EPA's Hit List (remember the "Acid Rain" will destroy the Earth's water supply hysteria?).
At the same time, the EPA was over-regulating the urban air quality numbers and Dallas, Austin and Houston were being penalized for sub standard air quality. The mayors, in response, joined together and said that the winds blowing past the lignite coal plants were the sole cause of the pollution in the metropolitan areas and said life would be perfect if the plants were closed.
And now you know why the plants were shuttered.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 12:12 PM (a4flb)
150When you lose in a landslide and call it fraud, you’re just refusing to accept reality.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 12:10 PM (uDDWT)
It really bothers me the way you always wind up insinuating people are losers.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 12:13 PM (rbvCR)
This reads like one of those articles about how millennials are re-creating society by inventing co-habitation, lateral promotions, and mindful spending.....you know: roommates, job-hopping, and budgeting.
Posted by: harbqll at November 29, 2025 11:49 AM (D2KR+)
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As a Jew who was taught by his parents not to waste things, I fully agree with you. Dumb article.
"Waste not, want not" is based on a biblical commandment.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 29, 2025 12:13 PM (mOv6P)
152
My point that does not make sense:
-there was obvious fraud in 2020, and people swallowed it. People were sent to jail for denying, protesting, the full jack boot nine yards.
-2024? Too risky? Not believable? I don't know and cannot account for it.
It does not make sense to me.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 12:08 PM (bss/y)
The Kumallah Factor. The Deep State didn't dare elect her for fear of her incompetence bringing the whole system down.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 29, 2025 12:13 PM (d5Mi/)
153
I've noticed that there seems to be a yuuuge difference between rates for commercial & residential use, at least in Denver. There, I could power several light-industrial machines from a dedicated hot leg for a similar cost to lighting & heating a small apartment.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2025 12:13 PM (BI5O2)
154
It is when it is 125% turnout is specific voting areas, dimwit. It is when the State SOS won't allow audits of the voting roles, dimwit.
Stop calling people losers.
Posted by: Kindltot
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Looks like the both of you could work on language skills.
Juvenile name calling doesn't promote one's argument.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 12:13 PM (Wt3Iw)
Roadrunners are in the "Cuckoo" family, but seem quite sane to me.
Posted by: Fugitive From Board of Mental Health at November 29, 2025 12:13 PM (oftw2)
156
Heh, I grew up with the avocado green kitchen. Set off by the dark green textured carpet.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 12:09 PM (3U2FH)
My parents: Avocado appliances, dark wood veneer cabinets, Orange/Yellow linoleum sheet flooring.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 12:14 PM (bss/y)
157
After that election, heard a report that in Pennsylvania during the summer, Delaware County was putting in more mail votes than the rest of the state together. So like August Delaware County out voted the rest of the state's voting.
Posted by: Skip r
It's a good thing there are honest, ethical Secretaries of States that will not certify honest, verifiable vote tallies.
Oh wait. . .
Posted by: Tonypete at November 29, 2025 12:14 PM (cYBz/)
158
The Kumallah Factor. The Deep State didn't dare elect her for fear of her incompetence bringing the whole system down.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 29, 2025 12:13 PM (d5Mi/)
Counter: Biden was literally a vegetable. A grifting, family ridden vegetable.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 12:15 PM (bss/y)
159
In my opinion the vote cheating in 2020 was epic… yeah a few thousand votes here and there in WI GA AZ swung the electoral college… but I can’t believe mushbrains got 81 million legitimate votes. Doesn’t pass the sniff test…. Remember millions of mail in ballots flooded the zone that year due to covididiocy
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 29, 2025 12:15 PM (ZtAny)
160
You may laugh, you may scorn but these AI Magnificents building multiple small form nuclear plants will develop, within less than five years, technologies allowing a proliferation of small form nukes enough to put Big Power on its heels.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 12:06 PM (Wt3Iw
I just found out that there are 3 SMR’s (small modular reactors) under construction in Texas, with 5 more in the permitting process. I believe they all use the molten salt coolant system.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 12:16 PM (3U2FH)
161
> "Oh what a great idea. I can put a week's worth of trash in one bag."
"Crap, this bag weighs a hundred pounds. What a dumb idea."
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There's a weight limit on our trash bins. 75lbs. Lift on the trash truck can't lift more than that. And the guys sure ain't lifting the bin on their own. So... if it won't lift, it gets left.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 29, 2025 12:16 PM (NwnyJ)
162Looks like the both of you could work on language skills.
Juvenile name calling doesn't promote one's argument.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 12:13 PM (Wt3Iw)
I don't pride myself on being particularly smart or clever, so I don't need to look better or smarter than anyone else. It also means I get to pay careful attention to my arguments and admit when I am wrong
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 12:18 PM (rbvCR)
163
You know, I can never figure out why soda tastes better with ice. There has to be some sort of thing with it, like water in whiskey.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 12:20 PM (bss/y)
164
Counter: Biden was literally a vegetable. A grifting, family ridden vegetable.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 12:15 PM (bss/y)
Counter counter: The Deep State thought it could neuter Trump like it did during his first term. They had no idea he would immediately shut down USAID and starve them of funds.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 29, 2025 12:21 PM (d5Mi/)
165
161 When I was a kid, the "garbagemen" were all city employees. No contractors, they pick up the stuff in the city truck and take it to the city dump. Period. Now, all our guys were black, and it was one of the most coveted jobs in the city. You get your route done in three hours, you get paid for eight. Watching these guys was like watching poetry in motion, no wasted moves, everybody knowing the next move. Anything shaky put out to the curb would be picked up if you remembered to place a six pack of Miller's on top of the pile.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 29, 2025 12:21 PM (gm9Sb)
166 I've noticed that there seems to be a yuuuge difference between rates for commercial & residential use, at least in Denver. There, I could power several light-industrial machines from a dedicated hot leg for a similar cost to lighting & heating a small apartment.
Look at the contract too, were you using three phase electricity? Were you also the first to be cut off on the occasion of a brownout?
I'm pretty certain that your SLA was very different for a business with predictable power use than residential. Also consider the risk and associated collection and admin costs to a business rather than residence.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 12:22 PM (a4flb)
167
but I can’t believe mushbrains got 81 million legitimate votes. Doesn’t pass the sniff test…. Remember millions of mail in ballots flooded the zone that year due to covididiocy
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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My gut tells me this is correct. But my head says, why haven't multiple people with knowledge stepped up and talked? There had to be some that didn't get paid. Or paid enough to keep quiet. And it would take a whole lot of mules to pull it off.
But then again, maybe they run it like a Mexican cartel, where the individual mules know nothing of value.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 29, 2025 12:23 PM (XvL8K)
168 Good morning, all! I'm about to have leftovers for breakfast.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 29, 2025 12:23 PM (n7rxJ)
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 12:24 PM (RuTUS)
170I just found out that there are 3 SMR’s (small modular reactors) under construction in Texas, with 5 more in the permitting process. I believe they all use the molten salt coolant system.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 12:16 PM (3U2FH)
If it is the Natura, it looks like the fuel is molten salt mixed with Uranium, and has a simplified method of scramming the reactor in case of problems, and claims this simplifies the cooling. I wonder if the touted desalinization co-generation is also part of the cooling system.
I had thought it was the Thorium reactors that used the molten salt.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 12:24 PM (rbvCR)
171
They are cheaters. Just like the con artist they have larceny in their bloodstream and are always working on new ways to scam the other.
We know they've been cheating since the 40s (LBJ) and they have been busy trying new ways and perfecting ways to win the next election. The cheating will never be over, therefore we must be more industrious at securing the vote than they are at cheating.
note: A commenter mentioned that when Lara Trump exited the RNC it fell back into it's middling ways.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 12:24 PM (Wt3Iw)
172
There's a lot of SMR work being done near here. Particularly fuel-production, but other design & manufacture stuff too. Trump shoved through a bunch of permits for it shortly before the end of his First Regnal Period.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2025 12:24 PM (BI5O2)
173 my head says, why haven't multiple people with knowledge stepped up and talked?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
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There's a very sparsely reported story out there about a woman who blew the whistle on vote fraud and wound up in the slammer. She just got released.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 29, 2025 12:24 PM (n7rxJ)
174
Counter counter: The Deep State thought it could neuter Trump like it did during his first term. They had no idea he would immediately shut down USAID and starve them of funds.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 29, 2025 12:21 PM (d5Mi/)
Valid, but if you figure they were behind the assassination attempt (I do not really count the smelly hippie with the sks) why wouldn't they go the whole nine yards and steal the election again? They already replaced Kamala with no due process- why not do whatever the hell they wanted as they had done since 2020?
Note, I am not saying there is not fraud or they were not behind the hit- I believe 'they' are- I just cannot account for the outcome of 2024 election.
It feels like we are missing something. Some detail.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 12:24 PM (bss/y)
Posted by: naturalfake at November 29, 2025 12:24 PM (iJfKG)
176I just found out that there are 3 SMR’s (small modular reactors) under construction in Texas, with 5 more in the permitting process. I believe they all use the molten salt coolant system.
These guys are the early adopters who bought the $10k plasma TVs so that the R&D and scaling costs would be covered which led to the $2k 80" OLEDs.
It also helps that the power is being totally private and NOT on the grid so that it escapes the Regulatory Leviathan of being on the public grid.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 12:25 PM (a4flb)
177
First book of a few I got right after 2020 election was largely about computer hacking vote fraud. I literally had Pennsylvania's vote tallies by township on my tablet. There were negatives in the tallies. Voting was added, added added then a subtraction would occur. Actually added the negatives up and Sundowner had a bigger subtraction total. I think they kept adding extra votes then realized too many and backed off Sundowner's totals.
But also the book showed additions constantly were added by a certain number odds wouldn't allow. For instance 10,456 votes then hour later 10,456 votes again. Or a percentage of votes were added
Sundowner would get 55% Trump %45 the next tally same percentage
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 12:25 PM (Ia/+0)
178There's a very sparsely reported story out there about a woman who blew the whistle on vote fraud and wound up in the slammer. She just got released.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 29, 2025 12:24 PM (n7rxJ)
Is it Tina Peterson? Did she get sprung? If so that is a blessing.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 12:26 PM (rbvCR)
179
Scott Jennings
@ScottJenningsKY
My favorite genre of liberal punditry is “Every one of my friends is an unnamed Trump voter and boy are they mad!”
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Well, facts are facts.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 29, 2025 12:30 PM (L/fGl)
180
Doing arts and crafts listening to a podcast on Lewis & Clark and chatting here. Had laundry going but that at least is done.
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 12:31 PM (Ia/+0)
181My gut tells me this is correct. But my head says, why haven't multiple people with knowledge stepped up and talked?
As I recall, there were over one thousand people who swore under penalty of perjury, signed affidavits, testifying to the fraud that they personally witnessed.
Being that Dominion was suing anyone who didn't worship their product, and the BLM violence promised on anyone daring to go to court on this, there was never a court case.
I think SCOTUS, by refusing to hear the case of massive demonstrable fraud against PA by states including TX was a warning shot to any and all litigators and judges to not entertain any contest to the election.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 12:31 PM (a4flb)
182
Please be careful with leftovers. Food sitting out for hours on T'giving, then put in fridge, there has to be a limit on how long it is safe.
My late, lovely, wife was a Registered Dietitian and served me over 40,000 meals over the course of our life together. Never got any kind of food-borne illness or distress.
I think Ace once told a story of eating away at a big pot of chili for like 10 days. That horrified me.
When in doubt, chuck it out!
Posted by: Frugal Is Fine, But Don't Get Sick at November 29, 2025 12:31 PM (oftw2)
183
These guys are the early adopters who bought the $10k plasma TVs so that the R&D and scaling costs would be covered which led to the $2k 80" OLEDs.“
As you say - the people building them now are going to be way ahead of those who start trying to build them 5 years from now.
And why in Texas? A) big energy corp infrastructure already B) plenty of future demand, and C) friendly regulatory environment.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 12:32 PM (3U2FH)
184
But then again, maybe they run it like a Mexican cartel, where the individual mules know nothing of value.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 29, 2025 12:23 PM (XvL8K)
I think that’s what happened… no central coordination; lots of crooks
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 29, 2025 12:33 PM (xT8gx)
185
I think SCOTUS, by refusing to hear the case of massive demonstrable fraud against PA by states including TX was a warning shot to any and all litigators and judges to not entertain any contest to the election.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 12:31 PM (a4flb)
Yeah. That was a bad day. Shut up and submit, peasant. Fucking Roberts.
Again, that is what makes 2024 a head scratcher.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 12:33 PM (bss/y)
186
When in doubt, chuck it out!
Posted by: Frugal Is Fine,
Risk aversion is killing us.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 12:35 PM (sl73Y)
187
>>>I just found out that there are 3 SMR’s (small modular reactors) under construction in Texas, with 5 more in the permitting process. I believe they all use the molten salt coolant system.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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There. And Bezos is building 12 in Washington. They are bringing 3 Mile Island back on line and the same company is doing nuclear in Illinois. Meta is also involved with nuclear as well the others.
With all that money and brainpower focused on generation efficient nuclear power there is reasonable expectation of exponential advance just as there is with computing.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 12:35 PM (Wt3Iw)
188
184 But then again, maybe they run it like a Mexican cartel, where the individual mules know nothing of value.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 29, 2025 12:23 PM (XvL8K)
I think that’s what happened… no central coordination; lots of crooks
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 29, 2025 12:33 PM (xT8gx)
And then the aggregate looks phony, but it is just a bunch of corrupt operators on a small scale?
Damn. I am not sure which is worse.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 12:35 PM (bss/y)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 29, 2025 12:36 PM (L/fGl)
190Have you prepared some leftovers worth keeping?
Usually turkey pie, but I found Emeril's turkey tetrazzini recipe several years and it's a keeper. Bit involved but worth it.
https://is.gd/turkey_tetrazzini
Posted by: olddog in mo at November 29, 2025 12:37 PM (bQ4nt)
191
As Stalin said it's not who votes, it's who counts them
And Dominion takes a simple adding machine problem and makes it so difficult to follow their counting
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 12:37 PM (Ia/+0)
192
189 The NYT: All the News That's Fit To Print!
https://is.gd/qY2JMj
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 29, 2025 12:36 PM (L/fGl)
Nice. Like I said yesterday, it is like they took the Norm Macdonald thing seriously and those were the headlines after the shooting of the guardsmen.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 12:37 PM (bss/y)
Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 12:43 PM (sl73Y)
199My gut tells me this is correct. But my head says, why haven't multiple people with knowledge stepped up and talked? There had to be some that didn't get paid. Or paid enough to keep quiet. And it would take a whole lot of mules to pull it off.
But then again, maybe they run it like a Mexican cartel, where the individual mules know nothing of value.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 29, 2025 12:23 PM (XvL8K)
I remember a bunch of people who "talked" but they got officially ignored and memory-holed or were punished by the legal system. Remember Ruby Whatsername in Georgia who stayed behind after the other counters went home, dragged suitcases of ballots from under the draped tables, and sent stacks of ballots repeatedly through the vote counting machine? Her actions were recorded on the security cameras and she made a video for her social media boasting about how she helped Biden win. I think she was awarded some type of recognition by the White House. Then Rudy Giuliani commented about her actions and the courts said he slandered her and awarded all of his assets to Ruby, including his car.
Posted by: Emmie at November 29, 2025 12:43 PM (FMtrg)
200
124 122 I preferred the "Harvest gold" color more.
Posted by: no one at November 29, 2025 12:04 PM (GLn15)
I thought that was goldenrod?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 12:05 PM (bss/y)
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The holy 70's trinity was avocado, burnt orange, and Aztec gold.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 29, 2025 12:44 PM (kpS4V)
201 Maybe Jill is buying something sexy for Biden to wear over his Depends.
Ho Ho Ho
Posted by: fourseasons at November 29, 2025 12:44 PM (3ek7K)
202
193 The NYT: All the News That's Fit To Print!
https://is.gd/qY2JMj
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 29, 2025 12:36 PM (L/fGl)
The NYT: all the news that fits, we print.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 12:38 PM (sl73Y)
'All the news that's filth, we print.'
Posted by: Eromero at November 29, 2025 12:44 PM (LHPAg)
203
I love turkey leftovers! You have all this meat ready to do other stuff with.
Posted by: Emmie at November 29, 2025 12:46 PM (FMtrg)
204There's a very sparsely reported story out there about a woman who blew the whistle on vote fraud and wound up in the slammer. She just got released.
If you mean Tina Peters from Colorado, that would be explosive.
Posted by: t-bird at November 29, 2025 12:46 PM (+5DDj)
205
>>>It also helps that the power is being totally private and NOT on the grid so that it escapes the Regulatory Leviathan of being on the public grid.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure
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That's where I keep going with the 'neighborhood developer' idea.
This power development competition will make small modular reactors common. The next step will be a new planned community (The Villages) featuring its own power supply.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 12:47 PM (Wt3Iw)
Rosie O'Donnell reveals her TDS has rubbed off on her autistic daughter
"My daughter is now saying, 'D*mn him, d*mn Trump.' And smashing her hand on the table."
"And I said, 'Wow, honey, what are you thinking?' And she said, 'He made us move in order for our own safety! And it's now he's destroying the country!'"
"She lives here, she hears what I'm saying ... I think to myself, 'You don't want to give this [TDS] to her.'"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 29, 2025 12:48 PM (L/fGl)
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Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 12:35 PM (Wt3Iw)
The Lefty tech dicks, including Bill Gates, all of the sudden find nuclear power to be great and environmentally friendly.
They need power for their AI business and also trying to convince regular lefties that it is necessary for their EV obsession.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 29, 2025 12:49 PM (KDPiq)
US industrial electricity prices in the top 5 states with the most data centers have surged +43% over the last 5 years.
Here is the bullshit narrative as to the cause:
AI infrastructure is driving electricity costs higher:
The Reality:
Gutting your state/country of much of its reliable, dispatchable thermal generated power and replacing it with vanity power projects that cost hundreds of billions and don't yield power on demand is behind the increase. Don't forget the hundreds of billions in rate-payer subsidies to those who installed solar panels to be used in a net power arrangement.
The money made in the utility scale electricity market is not the regulated generation rates, its in the building any form of infrastructure (even if totally worthless or counter productive) and passing the Hollywood Accounting costs to the consumer in the form of higher rates.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 11:44 AM (a4flb)
Wow. I believe your absolutely right about this.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 29, 2025 12:49 PM (FDWIW)
209There's a very sparsely reported story out there about a woman who blew the whistle on vote fraud and wound up in the slammer. She just got released.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 29, 2025 12:24 PM
...Tina Peters, the former Mesa County, Colorado, clerk who has become a polarizing figure in election integrity debates.
Peters, a Republican elected official, oversaw elections in Mesa County (a conservative area in western Colorado). In 2021, amid widespread claims of 2020 election rigging, she allowed unauthorized access to Dominion voting machines under her jurisdiction. Specifically:
She permitted a man using a fake ID (linked to conspiracy theorist Douglas Frank) to copy sensitive passwords and data from the machines.
She disabled security cameras and leaked images of the machines' internal software (including forensic images showing hash codes that she claimed proved tampering).
Peters argued this was to preserve evidence of "cheating," such as backdoors in the software or manipulated vote tallies, echoing Trump allies' unproven theories about Dominion systems flipping votes.
Grok: https://bit.ly/489GDht
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 12:49 PM (P5BPp)
Todd Blanche is Delaying Release of Tina Peters: Despite Trump's repeated public demands (including on X) to free election whistleblower Tina Peters from Colorado prison, Blanche is accused of obstructing her transfer to federal custody. Ticktin claims the paperwork was ready but blocked at Blanche's level, labeling it a direct defiance of Trump's orders.
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I'm looking
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 12:49 PM (Wt3Iw)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 29, 2025 12:52 PM (bfwj/)
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That's where I keep going with the 'neighborhood developer' idea.
This power development competition will make small modular reactors common. The next step will be a new planned community (The Villages) featuring its own power supply.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 12:47 PM (Wt3Iw)
I would think that the villages could send all their Return Air Ducts to a central location to run a NatGas electric generator.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 12:52 PM (3U2FH)
213
Tina Peters heart was in the right place but tried to prove here claim in an entirely wrong way.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 29, 2025 12:52 PM (KDPiq)
214
EricLDaugh
12m
Utter CHAOS is breaking out against federal agents in NYC as anti-ICE rioters STORM the barricades
Their lives are in danger.
WE NEED MASS ARRESTS NOW or they will keep doing this!
https://tinyurl.com/4ahan76y
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 12:54 PM (Wt3Iw)
215Tina Peters heart was in the right place but tried to prove here claim in an entirely wrong way.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 29, 2025 12:52 PM (KDPiq)
Having heard what the state of Colorado said about the Tren de Aragua, and other issues, I wonder about their claims in this case.
Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus shouldn't just be aimed at me.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 12:59 PM (rbvCR)
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Have deep fried both whole turkeys and turkey breasts.
The whole bird is easier because you know how long to cook it based on weight.
The breast is trickier because it's smaller and a more consistent density. You can easily overdo it.
If you're going to all the effort for set up and safety precautions, do the whole bird.
And talk a neighbor or two to buy a bird the same weight as yours. Their families will love the meal and the entire neighborhood will smell like McDonald's french fries.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 29, 2025 12:59 PM (XQo4F)
ELON MUSK: "Sen. Susan Collins was telling me she gave the Navy $12 billion for more submarines, got NO extra submarines, held a hearing to say, 'where'd the $12 billion go?'"
"And they were like, 'we don't know.' That was it." 🤯
Purge the fraud.
X video: https://bit.ly/48bcBKd
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 01:00 PM (P5BPp)
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As the late Rabbi Robert Kahn of Houston’s Congregation Emanu El once said: Anyone can cook the turkey. The real creativity, the real art, lies in what we do with the leftovers.
The turkey carcass makes a great toboggan sled for your new baby brother.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 29, 2025 01:00 PM (Z5/Ih)
219
Mass arrests, starting with state officials, governor on down, who promoted rather than prevented this stuff. Bankrupt NY (more).
Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 01:00 PM (sl73Y)
220
One of the knicks players got robbed in a fancy Manhattan hotel. Supposedly 185k worth of jewelry and cash. Wall off Manhattan.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 29, 2025 01:01 PM (KDPiq)
221
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 12:59 PM (rbvCR)
I don’t think she denied the allegations.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 29, 2025 01:02 PM (KDPiq)
222 I would think that the villages could send all their Return Air Ducts to a central location to run a NatGas electric generator.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Pass the cabbage.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 01:03 PM (Wt3Iw)
223
turkey carcass makes a great toboggan sled for your new baby brother.
LOL!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 29, 2025 01:05 PM (G6lJl)
Software glitch in the Airbus A320 series that is blamed on solar flares will affect 3,000 jets. The glitch will cause an uncommanded descent of the passenger jet. The fix requires a software reversion and take about two hours per plane.
So buckle up if you are going by air.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 29, 2025 01:07 PM (6Egig)
225 The Lefty tech dicks, including Bill Gates, all of the sudden find nuclear power to be great and environmentally friendly.
They need power for their AI business and also trying to convince regular lefties that it is necessary for their EV obsession.
Posted by: the way I see it
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Which will promote innovation, down scaling, efficiency, economy and accessibility to the masses. That's the way it always works.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 01:08 PM (Wt3Iw)
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220 One of the knicks players got robbed in a fancy Manhattan hotel. Supposedly 185k worth of jewelry and cash. Wall off Manhattan.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 29, 2025 01:01 PM (KDPiq)
Anybody who’s read any detective stories knows you immediately start checking to see if they’ve been selling the jewels off and replacing them with cheap copies lately.
And big wads of cash, just like in the Sting - a $100 on each end with a bunch of newsprint in between.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 01:09 PM (3U2FH)
227
>>>"She lives here, she hears what I'm saying ... I think to myself, 'You don't want to give this [TDS] to her.'"
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land
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Finally! It took her own child but someone caused Rosie to STFU.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 01:13 PM (Wt3Iw)
228
The next step will be a new planned community (The Villages) featuring its own power supply.
Posted by: Braenyard
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Imagine an HOA with the power to turn on or off your electricity.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 01:13 PM (WDjG6)
229
I can't imagine living in a neighborhood with an HOA.
They are un-American and should be sued out of existence.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 01:15 PM (Wt3Iw)
230
My aunt and uncle are flying here in a week but I am not going to see inside a plane in the distant future
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 01:17 PM (Ia/+0)
231
Again, that is what makes 2024 a head scratcher.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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There wasn't a flood of mail in ballots in 2024. Suddenly millions of Biden voters vanished from 2020-2024.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 01:17 PM (WDjG6)
232Software glitch in the Airbus A320 series that is blamed on solar flares will affect 3,000 jets. The glitch will cause an uncommanded descent of the passenger jet.
I suppose I'm supposed to believe that.
Posted by: t-bird at November 29, 2025 01:18 PM (+5DDj)
233 My aunt and uncle are flying here in a week but I am not going to see inside a plane in the distant future
Posted by: Skip
Ride on the wing like a gremlin.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 29, 2025 01:19 PM (pkeXY)
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229 I can't imagine living in a neighborhood with an HOA.
They are un-American and should be sued out of existence.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 01:15 PM (Wt3Iw)
One can look at it as a small town council in a way and that association is on a strictly voluntary basis.
However, the problems of the personality types drawn to power is always the same.
You have to destroy the concentrations of power so these useless commie fucks can't get it. Or figure out a way to purge them if they do get it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 01:19 PM (bss/y)
235
Rosie a terminal TDS case has an allegedly autistic child who has TDS. Couldn't see that one coming
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 29, 2025 01:21 PM (bfwj/)
236
Huh. I just picked up Stellar Blade on Steam because it's the steam sale. I checked the tags for the game just out of curiosity and one of them was 'sexual content'.
Huh? It has a attractive female lead and you can dress her up in outfits, but... It seems a bit overboard to label this as 'sexual content' like it is Subverse (do not look that up, just realize that is an out and out porn game.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 01:23 PM (bss/y)
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235 Rosie a terminal TDS case has an allegedly autistic child who has TDS. Couldn't see that one coming
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 29, 2025 01:21 PM (bfwj/)
Is the child also trans?
Funny how this keeps working like that.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 01:23 PM (bss/y)
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Only trip could imagine would be to Alaska to visit them. Would like to go 1st of Summer to see a endless day. Scotland at New Years was close to a all night, think it was light maybe 6 hours
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 01:24 PM (Ia/+0)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 29, 2025 01:25 PM (Ilcmv)
240
Wrt NJ, somehow half a million donk votes emerged from the ether.
That’s how you get Mikie Sherrel.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 29, 2025 01:27 PM (C3Wtu)
241 Thinking back to when Israel turned the Gaza Strip over to the "Palestinians", the Gazan people have become masters of transforming renewal into remnants.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at November 29, 2025 01:29 PM (xG4kz)
242
I can't imagine living in a neighborhood with an HOA.
They are un-American and should be sued out of existence.
Posted by: Braenyard
I was in one for four years.
It's like a jobs program for those with an authorization complex.
This HOA was worthless. No amenities at all.
It's purpose was solely to enrich the developer as they were exempt from the rules and had controlling votes until it was 90% sold out. So you paid them for your fence, pool, brick driveway, etc. or you weren't getting it.
HOA assholes told me to paint the house. Could not repaint same color as I had no proof what the original color was.... Had to pick from their std color book. Everything was off-white with trim giving a 'pop' of color....but they listed the colors as "base/trim"... Do I picked the one with some pumpkin pie orange obviously intended for trim...it I just sent them a copy of the page in their color book which said "base/trim". Painted the whole house pumpkin spice with whitish trim. Beautiful!
Three others repainted their homes the same before the HOA took it out a sn approved color.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 29, 2025 01:30 PM (Z5/Ih)
243 The next step will be a new planned community (The Villages) featuring its own power supply.
Posted by: Braenyard
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Imagine an HOA with the power to turn on or off your electricity.
Was “The Village” run by an HOA? Be seeing you!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 29, 2025 01:30 PM (ZVgZ4)
244
Peter Hoellens has a great acapella version of O Come O Come Emmanuel on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zshzkkD-NYA
Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at November 29, 2025 01:32 PM (avPX7)
245
Had to go to Jerusalem for the first comment on the Gardening Thread today. Hmmm.
Posted by: KT at November 29, 2025 01:33 PM (7vIsy)
246
Utter CHAOS is breaking out against federal agents in NYC as anti-ICE rioters STORM the barricades
Their lives are in danger.
WE NEED MASS ARRESTS NOW or they will keep doing this!
https://tinyurl.com/4ahan76y
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 12:54 PM (Wt3Iw)
I'm thinking something more lethal. Enough. Get some police snipers on choppers above the crowd. Pick off a few.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at November 29, 2025 01:34 PM (5xuJ/)
247
In the Book of Job, messengers come one after another with catastrophic news, each ending their terrible report with the chilling refrain: “I alone have escaped to tell you.” The last remaining witness. All that is left.
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In the aftermath of The Storm, myself and my neighbors were without power or water for a full month. One consequence of that was that my nightly Scripture readings were done very quietly by candlelight in what was otherwise pitch-black dark.
Every evening I reminded myself that such had been the case for others for millennia, and it caused some reflection on my part nightly.
More to the point, a goodly number of the prescribed readings (1790 Book of Common Prayer) during that period were from the book of Job. That was the cause of even more reflection, in that the difficulties that I and my neighbors were experiencing paled to insignificance by contrast.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 29, 2025 01:37 PM (XeU6L)
248The fix requires a software reversion and take about two hours per plane.
We'll just revert to a previous version during a layover. What could go wrong- it's software! (as I make darned sure I haven't left a tag open...)
Posted by: t-bird at November 29, 2025 01:39 PM (+5DDj)
249 We'll just revert to a previous version during a layover. What could go wrong- it's software! (as I make darned sure I haven't left a tag open...)
Posted by: t-bird
The plane will be BOLD!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 29, 2025 01:45 PM (pkeXY)
250
Was “The Village” run by an HOA? Be seeing you!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 29, 2025 01:30 PM (ZVgZ4)
The Prisoner. Nice.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 29, 2025 01:46 PM (uWb+v)
251
Why would you be anxious? Especially looking at Job? Have you not read to the end? Put your trust in God and lean not on your own understanding.
And, if God has blessed you with living in America, get yourself a gun or three and learn to use it. In this way God has equipped you to lessen your anxiety. And read Nehemiah, about working with your sword at your waist.
If you are God's chosen, then act like it and stand strong in the Lord
Posted by: GWB at November 29, 2025 02:13 PM (Uy5OP)
252The dirtiest square inch in your kitchen is the cutting wheel on your can opener! Wash it! Soak it in acetone or Alcohol!
Pfffffft!
Posted by: The drain of your kitchen sink
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Bleach, alcohol, soap....worst case, move!
Posted by: lin-duh is offended at November 29, 2025 11:50 AM
Ahem.
Posted by: The Cleansing Fire at November 29, 2025 02:49 PM (jc0TO)
253
Muslims disrupted the opening night of the Christmas market in Brussels, waving Palestinian flags, setting off smoke bombs and behaving in their customary belligerent way.
Coming to YOUR town if Islam is not exiled from the West
https://tinyurl.com/33ntu76x
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 03:19 PM (Wt3Iw)
254
Studies show that every time the average temperature rises by a degree, 500 women get clocked by their husband.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 29, 2025 03:33 PM (y+iyz)
A) a JSOC kill strike is ordered on an authorized target. Not a capture strike, a kill strike - President Obama was quite fond of them btw - 500+ to his name, including Americans.
B) the story is leaked. A leak from JSOC? Probably not - the leak is probably closer to the SECWAR’s office in the Pentagon. The Washington Post begins writing the story.
[ ... ]
E) Senator Slotkin, the former CIA ghoul, goes on the news and is very careful to state that she can’t identify any unlawful orders that have been given.
F) boom, the WaPo delivers the story claiming unlawful orders.
G) Friday evening, everyone on the left hits social media - with paid amplification - about the unlawful orders.
H) the Sunday shows will be filled with calls for war crimes charges, impeachments, and resignations.
X: https://bit.ly/48ovs31
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 07:28 PM (P5BPp)
260
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The Classical Saturday Coffee Break & Prayer Revival
[Follow The ScienceTM
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Good morning boys and girls and everything in between. Before we enter the Prayer Revival just a few housekeeping matters to go over. (Rulz for those of you in Chetek)
1) This is an open thread. Feel free to lurk, opine and/or bloviate.
2) Be kind, be nice.
3) No, you may not run with sharp objects. Dull ones? Feeling lucky?
4) Have a great weekend!
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The Serenity Prayer
God grant me the serenity To accept the things I cannot change; Courage to change the things I can; And wisdom to know the difference. Living one day at a time; Enjoying one moment at a time; Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace; Taking, as He did, this sinful world As it is, not as I would have it; Trusting that He will make all things right If I surrender to His Will; So that I may be reasonably happy in this life And supremely happy with Him Forever and ever in the next. Amen.
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Due to technical difficulties there is no AoSHQ Weekly Prayer List this week.
Do you have a prayer request request for AoSHQ Weekly Prayer List? Please submit any prayer requests to, "Annie's Stew" at apaslo at-sign hotmail dot com. Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks unless we receive an update.
Bless those of you who are fighting serious illnesses, who are seeking employment, who are estranged from their families, who are caring for other family members, who despair, who are defending our nation, and who spread joy and positivity wherever you go.
I knew that it was AI when I saw a couple obvious flaws in the formulas portrayed on the blackboard.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 08:14 AM (a4flb)
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Asking for a large passel of prayers, thanks. Mentioned a while back that I got a lymphoma diagnosis. Monday I start chemo, a program called R-EPOCH for those with experience. Gonna kill my winter, and maybe me.
The kids and granddaughter had a good time proactively cutting off my ponytail and shaving my head yesterday.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 08:14 AM (sl73Y)
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Busy day ahead. Snowmageddon approaches, so I need to get the lights up and get errands done before things get sketchy.
Also time to bring up the Christmas stuff. The grandkids will be top-fuel drag racers once we start.
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I hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving. There were some deaths in my family last year, which sucks, but we have a lot to be grateful for, and at least one of the widows (my aunt) was able to make it here for some family time.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2025 08:14 AM (BI5O2)
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 08:15 AM (a4flb)
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Time I shaved and showered while listening to a classic Casey Kasem from sometime in the Eighties.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 29, 2025 08:16 AM (wzUl9)
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Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 08:14 AM (sl73Y)
Prayers up, FaTT. You got this. The cancer won't kill you. You will kill the cancer. That's an order
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2025 08:16 AM (BI5O2)
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8 Up before everyone else and I don't want to make noise using the espresso or Keurig machine. All that remains is cold brew decaf.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 08:08 AM (a4flb)
I'm thinking if they sleep lightly enough for the Keurig to wake them, they oughta be up anyway. On the other hand, there goes your quiet time, so I get it. Monster it is.
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Hola horde! Best wishes and prayers up to all the great horde today. Happy to report there were no actual knife fights at Thanksgiving and everyone seemed pretty joyful, as befits them honestly, given how lucky we are to be Americans, relatively healthy (but for a couple of cancers) and the younger generation seems unscathed so far by the teachers union.
One additional blessing: my crazy lefty sister seems to not be speaking to me. We will see how long that lasts...
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 29, 2025 08:17 AM (g5yWs)
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Bless those of you who are fighting serious illnesses, who are seeking employment, who are estranged from their families, who are caring for other family members, who despair, who are defending our nation, and who spread joy and positivity wherever you go.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at November 29, 2025 08:12 AM (h7ZuX)
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The Horde features prominently in my daily devotions, though someone eavesdropping might wonder why I am praying for "morons."
My wife and I have been battling through some health issues that are more inconvenient than life-threatening at this point (though if ignored, things go could south quickly) and we are both seeing steady improvement. I am certain that prayer is helping us heal, and thank all of you.
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Good morning! Coffee and little slice of pecan pie. It's what's for breakfast!
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 29, 2025 08:18 AM (3Ope8)
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Good morning everyone, thx MusHum.
Thank you all for the prayers for my aunt who had stopped treatment for cancer two weeks ago. The good Lord had a plan and my aunt passed away early Friday morning. Taught at a Catholic school for over 20 yrs , raised three beautiful daughters and had eight grandchildren. She babysat me in my first couple of years if my life and then helped me when I got ill a few years back. RIP Judy
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 29, 2025 08:21 AM (bfwj/)
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One additional blessing: my crazy lefty sister seems to not be speaking to me. We will see how long that lasts...
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 29, 2025 08:17 AM (g5yWs)
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My father drove up from Detroit and spent time with us on Thanksgiving, eating entirely too much and red-lining his blood sugar, but he called yesterday and said "no worries, back to normal."
It is a blessing to have him still alive and kicking at 83, and we talk just about every other day about things. He's very chatty now, and his lost his old stoic reserve, especially around his great-grandkids. He did doze off in the comfy chair after his meal, which we took for a compliment.
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26 Good morning! Coffee and little slice of pecan pie. It's what's for breakfast!
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 29, 2025 08:18 AM (3Ope
Baklava for me. Bitter coffee and sweet dessert is a divine combination.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 08:22 AM (sl73Y)
31 Up n atom, everyone. Smash tells me that today we are going to drag out all the Christmas decorations. Yeah.
If I survive that, I'll take a motorcycle ride west of I-65 towards the Bankhead National Forest and let the Multistrada stretch its legs a bit.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at November 29, 2025 08:22 AM (QVmho)
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I remember reading Einstein never really mastered shoe string tying.
Seems sometimes a person is so.much smarter than the rest of us yet we have somethings over them.
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 08:22 AM (Ia/+0)
Best wishes for a successful outcome. You can do it.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 29, 2025 08:23 AM (viF8m)
34'm thinking if they sleep lightly enough for the Keurig to wake them, they oughta be up anyway
Normally that would be a correct thing, but for reasons of maintaining some level of dignity and self-respect, the Keurig, which was obtained a few years ago for visiting Philistine relatives they insist on fru-fru "coffee", is hidden in the utility room which is proximate to some sleeping quarters.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 08:27 AM (a4flb)
35Imagine instead of spending millions upon millions to accommodate them moving to Western nations, that money was spent to improve the state of the other nations and they stayed there.
Explain to me in simple words, why I am financially and morally responsible to sacrifice my time and money to artificially raise the living standards of every shit-hole heathen around the globe to a level that is satisfactory of the Ruling Class in Babylon DC?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 08:05 AM
You/we are not.
My point was if there was an A or B choice 24 years ago on how to spend that money, the powers that be chose incorrectly.
And now every sane person in Western civilization realizes that these people hate us and are not worthy of any of our blood or treasure. The answer now is deport and ban. Every single one of them. Period.
Time to go back when the only money sent to these countries was the pennies saved by elementary school children in those little milk carton banks.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 08:27 AM (P5BPp)
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Ha! Gödel basically died of starvation, after his wife died. Seriously. Brilliant, but helpless.
I think it was Neils Bohr who was said to show up at the T area at the Los Alamos research center wearing a piece of clothesline for a belt and weird mismatched clothes when his wife was out of the area.
Johnny Von Neumann scared the hell out of everyone when he was driving. Absent minded professor. He totaled several cars, and there’s an intersection named after him somewhere due to all the collisions he got in, maybe Cambridge, MA, someplace like that.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 29, 2025 08:29 AM (2Ra0c)
37 I remember reading Einstein never really mastered shoe string tying.
Seems sometimes a person is so.much smarter than the rest of us yet we have somethings over them.
Its also a function of where one distributes their mental bandwidth. Those who go All In on Big Thoughts tend to be absent minded or find things like tying shoes outside the radar range of things that should be mastered.
I have lace shoes that have enough give plus starting off with them loose enough that I only need to re-tie them once every few dozen wearings.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 08:31 AM (a4flb)
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Yo Lloyd, wall street journal review section has a review of Giles Tremlett's bio of El Generalisimo.
WSJ thinks it is another boring hit piece.
Posted by: gKWVE at November 29, 2025 08:31 AM (8fFt+)
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I remember reading Einstein never really mastered shoe string tying.
Posted by: Skip
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String Theory had not yet been fully developed in those days.
Posted by: muldoon at November 29, 2025 08:31 AM (/iMjX)
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Good morning dear morons and thanks to annie and mh and you horde for praying.
Hiya JT
{grammie}
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 29, 2025 08:31 AM (A0sqA)
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Well, of course because it was never about the money, and no amount of it can fix their messed up countries, anyway. It's about destabilizing, impoverishing, and atomizing the host societies, so their ruling classes can lord over the ruins.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2025 08:33 AM (BI5O2)
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Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 08:14 AM (sl73Y)
A prayer for complete and immediate recovery.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 29, 2025 08:33 AM (A0sqA)
43
"23 8 Up before everyone else and I don't want to make noise using the espresso or Keurig machine. All that remains is cold brew decaf."
+++
“You buy a jar of Folger's Crystals, you put it in the cupboard, you forget about it. Then later on when you need it, it's there. It lasts forever. It's freeze-dried. Freeze-dried Crystals.”
— Lieutenant Bookman
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 29, 2025 08:33 AM (XQo4F)
44
hidden in the utility room which is proximate to some sleeping quarters.
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Reveille at maximum volume, paired with banging garbage can lids together, is sovereign in such cases. You’ve got to solve this malingering! Up and at ‘em! Smoke ‘em if you got ‘em, wear glasses if ya need ‘em.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 29, 2025 08:34 AM (2Ra0c)
45Explain to me in simple words, why I am financially and morally responsible to sacrifice my time and money to artificially raise the living standards of every shit-hole heathen around the globe to a level that is satisfactory of the Ruling Class in Babylon DC?
The left: "We got us a WHITE NATIONALIST over here!"
Amusingly enough, when I voiced similar words on another forum I was called an "Isolationist Piece of Shit" as if that was a bad thing.
Posted by: NR Pax at November 29, 2025 08:34 AM (7xrfc)
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 29, 2025 08:35 AM (zdLoL)
47
Glory to the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is now, and will be forever. Amen.
Hail Mary, full of grace, blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen
St. Andrew, pray for us.
I have prayed Rosaries for the intentions, both stated and unstated, of members of the Horde.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at November 29, 2025 08:36 AM (pJWtt)
48
I worked with a guy that was a genius and he was always getting into car crashes. Mostly he would brake really hard when he saw a car stopped in front of him and get rear ended.
He loved bicycling and we all pleaded with him to wear a helmet telling him he was worthless without his brain.
He relented.
Smart guy.
Posted by: pawn at November 29, 2025 08:37 AM (sPsWv)
49 The answer now is deport and ban. Every single one of them. Period.
I'm looking at the Preamble to the US Constitution. Our cuntry's Mission Statement and Social Compact.
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Its like the "shall not be infringed" to the sane and normal person the phrase "to ourselves and our Posterity" seems very clear and concise.
To the reprobate though, the opposite is true.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 08:38 AM (a4flb)
50
“You buy a jar of Folger's Crystals, you put it in the cupboard, you forget about it. Then later on when you need it, it's there. It lasts forever. It's freeze-dried. Freeze-dried Crystals.”
— Lieutenant Bookman
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 29, 2025 08:33 AM (XQo4F)
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Truly one of the best characters and scenes in the whole series.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 29, 2025 08:39 AM (A0sqA)
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 29, 2025 08:42 AM (xT8gx)
52
Reveille at maximum volume, paired with banging garbage can lids together, is sovereign in such cases. You’ve got to solve this malingering! Up and at ‘em! Smoke ‘em if you got ‘em, wear glasses if ya need ‘em.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 29, 2025 08:34 AM (2Ra0c)
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How do you play the bugle and bang the lids together at the same time?
From an early age, my kids were aware that their father was quite capable of knocking out many military bugle calls on his trumpet, and would not hesitate to do so.
Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025 08:44 AM (77rzZ)
55
Good morning horde
Prayers for all the horde in need of prayers
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 29, 2025 08:44 AM (gDlxJ)
56
I’m reading Dave Horowitz “Radical Son” and he talks about the murder of book keeper for the black panthers, and makes some really good observations about the left, and the press in general. The script is always the same.
Notice the press and the usual suspects are into the “The afghani terrorist is the real victim here”. That is leftist SOP.
The perpetrators get all the press. Nobody can name the victim that Huey Newton killed. The victims don’t matter. The Narrative is what matters. They would have to admit, hey, maybe the police have a point, maybe we should support the police. That will never do.
They would have to admit they are wrong. And they will never do that. “Your death before their dishonor”
That’s how you get them making these lunatic arguments. Our local rag never mentions the victim but in a cursory manner. Never any photographs, for obvious reasons. Mugshots are also “problematic” too you see.
News stories are basically information free. “Somebody did something. Police are seeking the public’s help.” Fucking clown world.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 29, 2025 08:44 AM (eXRad)
57
Looks like rain will ruin my golf today. Kind of beat down from the past 3 days so not too disappointed. Rain allows me to stay inside and be a couch potato without feeling guilty.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 29, 2025 08:45 AM (KDPiq)
58My father drove up from Detroit and spent time with us on Thanksgiving, ...
It is a blessing to have him still alive and kicking at 83, and we talk just about every other day about things. He's very chatty now, and his lost his old stoic reserve, ...
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 29, 2025 08:21 AM (ZOv7s)
After Mom died, the family became aware that the Old Man was slipping into dementia (she had been able to hide what was happening to my brother and I). We had to put him in in nursing home simply because he required daily monitoring and care.
We visited him frequently. The Old Man and I became much closer (we were never estranged -- just too much alike: both Type A personalities that were frequently correct, but lacking in tact) after Mom died. I gradually became aware that it was actually a gift from God.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at November 29, 2025 08:45 AM (pJWtt)
59
Yo Lloyd, wall street journal review section has a review of Giles Tremlett's bio of El Generalisimo.
WSJ thinks it is another boring hit piece.
Posted by: gKWVE at November 29, 2025 08:31 AM (8fFt+)
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They can't let it go.
Payne and Palacios have written the definitive book on the subject.
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Ah, I see. “Technical difficulties.” Damn hamsters:
Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025 08:46 AM (77rzZ)
61
Wrote downstairs, the DC Murderer was living in a $2000 a moth apartment, feeding a wife and 5 kids and played video games all day without a job.
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 08:46 AM (Ia/+0)
62
From about That Time, I will pray to St Peregrine and Archangel Raphael, that they may beseech the Lord for your healing.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 29, 2025 08:46 AM (gDlxJ)
63
Explain to me in simple words, why I am financially and morally responsible to sacrifice my time and money to artificially raise the living standards of every shit-hole heathen around the globe to a level that is satisfactory of the Ruling Class in Babylon DC?
The left: "We got us a WHITE NATIONALIST over here!"
Amusingly enough, when I voiced similar words on another forum I was called an "Isolationist Piece of Shit" as if that was a bad thing.
Posted by: NR Pax at November 29, 2025 08:34 AM
Back during the depression we halted immigration for almost everyone. The only ones we let into the country during that period were people who would be an asset to the country. We need to do that again.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 29, 2025 08:47 AM (0N4FZ)
64
Well now the murderer doesn't have to take care of the wife and kids and his free digs cost us much more than $2K/mo.
So it's a kind of upgrade for him.
Posted by: pawn at November 29, 2025 08:49 AM (sPsWv)
65
News stories are basically information free. “Somebody did something. Police are seeking the public’s help.” Fucking clown world.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 29, 2025 08:44 AM (eXRad)
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That's assuming they cover the story at all. One of the turning points in our area was when a bunch of gay activists disrupted a service at the local megachurch. Total news blackout. Only online media covered it.
66
I realized this morning with a sudden sense of harrow that outside the United States, free speech, or the political belief in the preeminent value of freedom of speech, is essentially dead. America is now literally the last bastion. England and the legacy of the Magna Carta is finished. Canada, once a sort of junior version of America, is now a pre-totalitarian state. France is toast. Germany is banning opposition political parties and conducting no-knock raids on "hateful" facebook posters. Australia is equally shot.
Where in the "free world" is there anything like a First Amendment or even a place where leaders are rallying to the cause rather than undermining it?
Posted by: Ordinary American at November 29, 2025 08:51 AM (h/ffs)
Woohoo!!! I got the last slice of apple pie for breakfast!
*munch...munch*
Posted by: Diogenes at November 29, 2025 08:52 AM (y3bZw)
68
Trump needs to step up like he usually does and tell the Muslim leaders to get on board , condemn the actions and rhetoric coming out of ‘mainstream’ Muslim communities or suffer the consequences.
When they refuse he’ll just have more ammo to rectify the problem.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 29, 2025 08:52 AM (KDPiq)
69I worked with a guy that was a genius and he was always getting into car crashes. Mostly he would brake really hard when he saw a car stopped in front of him and get rear ended.
Now you know the Origin Story of today's cars with all kinds of driver assistance features.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 08:54 AM (a4flb)
70
Explain to me in simple words, why I am financially and morally responsible to sacrifice my time and money to artificially raise the living standards of every shit-hole heathen around the globe to a level that is satisfactory of the Ruling Class in Babylon DC?"
Having lived in the DC area for the better part of four decades, it is my opinion that most of the giraffes "like" them more than said giraffes like you. Or me.
Also - Mrs' followup tests went ... meh. Numbers not responding well enough to persue stem cell treatments at this point, but they're going to keep at this for another 60/90 days. Very stressful times, it is.
Posted by: man at November 29, 2025 08:55 AM (XuXeR)
71
worked with a guy that was a genius and he was always getting into car crashes. Mostly he would brake really hard when he saw a car stopped in front of him and get rear ended. ……
Sounds more like an idiot savant.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 29, 2025 08:55 AM (KDPiq)
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Where in the "free world" is there anything like a First Amendment or even a place where leaders are rallying to the cause rather than undermining it?
Posted by: Ordinary American at November 29, 2025 08:51 AM (h/ffs)
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Hungary, and some of the other small states in Central Europe. I think the Czechs decided to loosen firearms laws so that they could be a 'nation in arms' and I think Poland is doing this as well.
Regarding the rest, the game isn't even close to being over. Quite the contrary, it's just getting started. People are finally realizing that the Establishment hates them, really, honestly hates them, wants them dead and replaced by ill-mannered serfs. This is quite shocking, and lots of people are still in denial, but the masks are falling.
How it turns out is anyone's guess, but the status quo will not last.
73I realized this morning with a sudden sense of harrow that outside the United States, free speech, or the political belief in the preeminent value of freedom of speech, is essentially dead. America is now literally the last bastion.
I'm pretty sure that Free Speech was never a European value. You are likely seeing just a social-media amplification of what has always been in place.
Used to be that a person would be tortured or killed for mocking the King or defying the Pope, but we know now who has the real power by who can not be mocked or even questioned.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 08:57 AM (a4flb)
74
Mornin' Horde. Prayers for you and yours, especially those who are ill, grieving, caregiving, job hunting, or facing any kind of hardship. Big hugs to all y'all.
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Where in the "free world" is there anything like a First Amendment or even a place where leaders are rallying to the cause rather than undermining it?"
In all of human history around the globe... we're (250 years worth + or -) are the odd ducks. We're the walking dead/legend.
And we all need to defend ourselves. No one else is coming over the hill...
Posted by: man at November 29, 2025 08:57 AM (XuXeR)
Did you all see the new Chevy holiday ad? It is something, really good something:
https://tinyurl.com/26rzwbxr
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 29, 2025 08:58 AM (emBoF)
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Where in the "free world" is there anything like a First Amendment or even a place where leaders are rallying to the cause rather than undermining it?
Posted by: Ordinary American at November 29, 2025 08:51 AM (h/ffs)
Yes, spot on.
When I get in a pessimist mood recently (not often but it happens) I can see a bad path we could go down here; namely, Trump’s success has made Dems and the left (redundant) so deranged that if they get back in power anytime soon (like say win in 2 I believe they’ll go full tyrant mode. If we think we can be complacent and no problem we have 8 years of Vance coming…. I’m not so sure. They’re gonna go all out to prevent that
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 29, 2025 08:59 AM (xT8gx)
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I have come to the conclusion that I don't want to live in a multi-cultural society.
Fortunately, I live in SC, which is almost uniformly Christian American culture. So I do not need to move.
I am visiting So. Cal. right now. What an effing nightmare.
Posted by: no one at November 29, 2025 08:59 AM (GLn15)
Posted by: Quarter Twenty echoing Don Rumsfeld at November 29, 2025 09:00 AM (XQo4F)
83
"Trump needs to step up like he usually does and tell the Muslim leaders to get on board , condemn the actions and rhetoric coming out of ‘mainstream’ Muslim communities or suffer the consequences."
I'm seriously pro Trump but he needs to tamp down of the imperial rhetoric and get his people to follow though on things.
He's starting to look like a hack by throwing a lot of red meat around.
Soon more people will start to openly call him out as a do nothing blowhard.
I realize it's DC and the deck is stacked against him 10 layers deep but he needs an actual head on a pike at this point.
Posted by: pawn at November 29, 2025 09:00 AM (sPsWv)
84
Praying to “saints” is idolatry.
Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025 08:58 AM (77rzZ)
I’m not Catholic but they aren’t praying to saints as a God but praying to them as servants of God who might assist them in their request to God.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 29, 2025 09:01 AM (KDPiq)
85
I don't want to live in a multi-cultural society."
Well, they never did finish the tower at Babel, did they?
Posted by: man at November 29, 2025 09:02 AM (XuXeR)
86
I just made an emoji by accident in 80…. Typed 28 followed by a closed parenthesis… who knew? Lots of folks other than me…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 29, 2025 09:02 AM (xT8gx)
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If we think we can be complacent and no problem we have 8 years of Vance coming…. I’m not so sure. They’re gonna go all out to prevent that
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 29, 2025 08:59 AM (xT8gx)
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The correlation of forces is against them and the imbalance is only getting stronger. The Seditious 6 was a desperation move, pushed out without proper media preparation or a good predicate for the instructions.
Making matters worse, the Dem commentariat can't stop itself from going overboard, so now they are ramping up the language the point of committing overt acts, rather than dancing on the line.
Soros Junior is an utter imbecile, and I won't be surprised if cash money is going to be offered to deserters and mutineers as "aid." That's how you get seditious conspiracy charges.
Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025 09:03 AM (77rzZ)
89I’m not Catholic but they aren’t praying to saints as a God but praying to them as servants of God who might assist them in their request to God.
correct it's still praying to God! I sometimes ask my grandmother to intercede up in heaven for me - that's not idolatry either, and I'm not a medium. we always pray to God. but a little chat with someone in the Big Office (hopefully) can't hurt.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 29, 2025 09:03 AM (emBoF)
90
Muslims March to the beat of their own drum, always will
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 09:04 AM (Ia/+0)
91Well, they never did finish the tower at Babel, did they?
that is what is happening. Tower of Babel redux
so many of our Current Year problems are due to simply forgetting this wisdom - there are Seven Deadly Sins, and Seven Cardinal Virtues.
don't mix them up.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 29, 2025 09:04 AM (emBoF)
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86 I just made an emoji by accident in 80…. Typed 28 followed by a closed parenthesis… who knew? Lots of folks other than me…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 29, 2025 09:02 AM (xT8gx)
28()
Like this?
Posted by: Diogenes at November 29, 2025 09:04 AM (y3bZw)
Posted by: Diogenes at November 29, 2025 09:05 AM (y3bZw)
95Wrote downstairs, the DC Murderer was living in a $2000 a moth apartment, feeding a wife and 5 kids and played video games all day without a job.
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 08:46 AM
Yep.
Grok summary: https://bit.ly/48n45q5
Lived with his wife (described by neighbors as hijab-wearing) and five children, the oldest around 14. Some reports mention two nephews also in the household. He has a brother in the U.S.
Employment
Unemployed at the time of the incident. Sources indicate he was unable to secure work due to an expired employment authorization (work permit), despite prior U.S. collaboration in Afghanistan. Neighbors described him as a "simple and nice guy" who was job-hunting.
Apartment
A sparse, bare unit in a subsidized complex (likely via HUD or refugee assistance programs prioritizing Afghans). No beds—family slept on couch cushions or the floor.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 09:05 AM (P5BPp)
Posted by: no one at November 29, 2025 09:05 AM (GLn15)
97
Explain to me in simple words, why I am financially and morally responsible to sacrifice my time and money to artificially raise the living standards of every shit-hole heathen around the globe to a level that is satisfactory of the Ruling Class in Babylon DC?"
________
"Show me a definite person doing a definite thing and I will tell you whether he is my friend or my enemy; but as to calling all human creatures indiscriminately my brothers and sisters, I will do no such thing. I have far too much respect for real relations to give these endearing names to all sorts of people of whom I know and for whom, practically speaking, I care nothing at all."
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 29, 2025 09:06 AM (XvL8K)
98This is quite shocking, and lots of people are still in denial, but the masks are falling
I wish I could be more optimistic. All of this was painfully obvious decades ago to anyone paying attention. Warnings were scoffed at, at best. Sometimes it’s like watching huge swaths of people on a 45 year time delay or something.
I do wish they would try to keep up. I claim no special aptitude or intelligence here, I’m just an ignorant rube mouth breather out here in flyover Jesus Land and even I could figure it out. I never anticipated people would be so enthusiastic about essentially cutting their own throat, and heaping abuse on those who aren’t willing to participate
Posted by: Common Tater at November 29, 2025 09:07 AM (eXRad)
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>> Ha! Gödel basically died of starvation, after his wife died. Seriously. Brilliant, but helpless.
Bat shit crazy, basically. Paranoid. He had a thing that people were trying to poison his food. He trusted his wife, but nobody else's. Also, worried about somebody piping poison gas in the house, so he tended to keep windows open in the dead of winter night...
His wife actually outlived him. But, she had a stroke, and was hospitalized for several months. He starved to death during that time. The coroner listed the cause of death as "malnutrition and inanition caused by personality disturbance".
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 29, 2025 09:07 AM (w6EFb)
100Where in the "free world" is there anything like a First Amendment or even a place where leaders are rallying to the cause rather than undermining it?
Posted by: Ordinary American at November 29, 2025 08:51 AM
Poland is one place.
Helps that they do not allow Muslims there.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 09:08 AM (P5BPp)
101
This is my coffee. There are many like it but this one is mine.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 29, 2025 09:08 AM (4786I)
102 Einstein also famously answered his door buck naked one time. He had completely forget he had no clothes on.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 29, 2025 09:08 AM (w6EFb)
103
Praying to anyone but God is idolatry.
Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025 09:03 AM (77rzZ)
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Than so is the prayer list.
You ask the saints to pray for you, just like you ask Morons on this site.
Exact same thing. It's not difficult to understand, assuming you want to.
104
Thanksgiving was a bit quieter than usual. We missed my mom, who died in July, and my guy and my niece weren't able to get here. But we enjoyed being together as we always do. My gingerbread cake turned out pretty awesome if I do say so myself. Today I'm fixing a yuge pot of chili & beans and a couple of my cousins are coming over after the Clemson-Carolina game.
105
there is no god but God and Bulg is His messenger
Posted by: gKWVE at November 29, 2025 09:10 AM (sDWtc)
106 If you want to read something funny, read about Kurt Godel's citizenship hearing. Einstein and another guy sponsored him. Back then, to get in this country permanently, you needed Albert Fucking Einstein vouching for you.
Anyway, Godel, being batshit crazy, went off ranting to the judge that he found a logical flaw in the US Constitution. Einstein and the other guy did face palms, but the judge was just amused. "Boy, these mathematical geniuses are sure nuts, aren't they".
Godel ranted he would prove that logical flaw, but no record of it exists. When Godel said he could prove something, by George, he usually did.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 29, 2025 09:11 AM (w6EFb)
107
Trump needs to step up like he usually does and tell the Muslim leaders to get on board , condemn the actions and rhetoric coming out of ‘mainstream’ Muslim communities or suffer the consequences.
When they refuse he’ll just have more ammo to rectify the problem.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 29, 2025 08:52 AM (KDPiq)
He needs to tell them either renounce islam or be deported. Fuck 'em.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 29, 2025 09:11 AM (g8Ew8)
108
I do wish they would try to keep up. I claim no special aptitude or intelligence here, I’m just an ignorant rube mouth breather out here in flyover Jesus Land and even I could figure it out. I never anticipated people would be so enthusiastic about essentially cutting their own throat, and heaping abuse on those who aren’t willing to participate
Posted by: Common Tater at November 29, 2025 09:07 AM (eXRad)
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Sometimes one cannot take the straight path. We see this all the time. Things happen in a particular order. It works that way for people, and also for nations.
The important thing to remember is that God wins in the end. Christ has already won the victory, and we are in the follow-up phase of the war.
I keep reminding people that wars are often at their worst when the decision is no longer in doubt, and the defeated side has nothing but pure anger and despair to fuel them. Sometimes they surrender, but not until all that wrath and pride is burned away.
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I never anticipated people would be so enthusiastic about essentially cutting their own throat"
"They" don't see it that way. Thinking things thru is a bit more difficult for many...
Posted by: man at November 29, 2025 09:12 AM (XuXeR)
110
Prayers up for those that need them now,
and prayers up for those that don't know they need them yet!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NEXT year in Corsicana! at November 29, 2025 09:12 AM (hOUT3)
111
Trump needed to sign the execution order for Nidal Hasan yesterday as an exclamation point.
Posted by: no one at November 29, 2025 09:12 AM (GLn15)
112
Left and Deep State, led by the WaPo today, are trying run interference for the Seditious Six today, while also trying to bury reaction to the Afghan Assassin by running a story claiming that Hegseth ordered drug boat survivors “killed”. Based on the apparent fact that there was a second hit on the first drug boat attack after the first missile hit didn’t sink it.
A) The order was to sink the boat. If that took two strikes, then it did.
B) they were drug smugglers, who cares.
C) the hit story is anonymously sourced
D) they were drug smugglers, who cares
This looks like a hit story that had been sitting on the shelf for a couple weeks til the Deep State thought they needed it.
Biggest problem for them? No One Cares.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 09:13 AM (3U2FH)
Real hard fought rivalry, grudge-match college football.
The Cherry on Top?
Muh 'Horns won!!!
Too bad they probably won't make the playoffs unless there's a whole lot of chaos in the rankings.
So.....lose you higher ranked teams! Lose!
Posted by: naturalfake at November 29, 2025 09:13 AM (iJfKG)
114
The demons are definitely at the howling and rage stage.
Posted by: no one at November 29, 2025 09:13 AM (GLn15)
115 Einstein and Godel used to take long walks together on the Princeton campus. No record of what they discussed exists. People wondered what ponderous profundities they were discussing.
The joke was it was probably, "Hey, Al, did you see the rack on that new coed?"
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 29, 2025 09:14 AM (w6EFb)
116
Sooner or even sooner than that the nullification of the Auto-Pen administration is going to hit the fan.
Maybe later until someone makes a move charging a former pardonee
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 09:14 AM (Ia/+0)
117This looks like a hit story that had been sitting on the shelf for a couple weeks til the Deep State thought they needed it.
They have a deeper inventory than Amazon.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 29, 2025 09:14 AM (Riz8t)
118
Mornin', Hordelings. Today is our big, belated Thanksgiving dinner, which means that yours truly is going to spend several hours chopping, dicing, and stirring. And yes, I am actually going to sous vide the turkey breast - mostly because there's no way I can fit it in the oven along with the rest of the meal. But I've done it before and it actually turns out quite nicely. Time to down the rest of this coffee and get to work. Have a blessed day.
Posted by: PabloD at November 29, 2025 09:15 AM (GALGA)
Holidays are especially bittersweet when you've lost a loved one recently. Thanksgiving 1996 was the last time I saw my big sister, and it still aches.
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No, asking living humans to pray for you is NOT the same as asking dead supposed “saints” to pray for you.
I guess I’d better leave now. As one of the few Protestants on this site, I know I’m outnumbered.
I have no personal animus against anyone here. But when people start throwing around the praying to “saints” stuff, it gets my hackles up. It’s not Biblical.
Anyway, I hope you all have a great day:
Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025 09:16 AM (77rzZ)
Posted by: fd at November 29, 2025 09:17 AM (vFG9F)
124
This looks like a hit story that had been sitting on the shelf for a couple weeks til the Deep State thought they needed it.
Biggest problem for them? No One Cares.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 09:13 AM (3U2FH)
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This is what I am talking about. Let's say that the order is in fact illegal. Okay, so what? Airman Snuffy up in Anchorage has nothing to do with it. Is he supposed to refuse duty until the president does what he wants?
Has anyone made a legal finding? If they do, how do they differentiate this from Obama and Dubya using drones?
It's a desperation move and it leaves them very vulnerable.
One other thing - officers think very differently from enlisted because they have much more freedom of action. An officer in extremis can resign their commission. Enlisted men cannot. They can request separation but may not unilaterally quit. You will sometimes see them "resigning" but they need permission to do that. Even retirement can be blocked (mine was twice).
So these people are NOT speaking to the vast majority of the troops, and examples will be made and the media will ignore them, but the troops will all be talking about it.
59 I think the internet is noticeable faster
As said tv is better but got screwed as the cable box set goes straight to a HD channel if it doesn't have a HD channel. So can't go to old TCM as there is a HD I can't get
Posted by: Skip
Skip, I just read this so maybe you'll see my reply here.
If you can't figure out a way to get to a Standard Definition channel for TCM, they do have an app for SmartTVs/Roku and Tablets/PCs that you can use to watch live or video-on-demand.
It's called "Watch TCM" and is available on the Google Play Store, Apple Store and on the specific app stores on SmartTVs.
https://www.tcm.com/watchtcm
Click on "Link TV Provider" at the top then "View All TV Providers" at the bottom of the pop-up for the full list and see if your provider is on there. If they are, click on it and you login with your same credentials as for your cable/internet provider.
You'll have to do that for each device you install the app on but it will remember your credentials for awhile once you do.
They have live High-Definition East & West feeds on the app in the "Live TV" section, plus you can stream any movies they are playing that day/week/month.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 29, 2025 09:19 AM (6ydKt)
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"Trump needed to sign the execution order for Nidal Hasan yesterday as an exclamation point."
Yeah, I've given this some thought trying to figure out what's up wit dat.
I think his folks might be setting up a trap to catch a leaker in Hegseth's camp.
You have to admit, it's a great opportunity. Talk about a breaking story.
Posted by: pawn at November 29, 2025 09:19 AM (sPsWv)
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Trump needed to sign the execution order for Nidal Hasan yesterday as an exclamation point.
Posted by: no one at November 29, 2025
Televised. Wrapped in pigskin and hit with a flamethrower.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 29, 2025 09:20 AM (LjSYW)
129
Oh, look, my current hash is almost the name of one of my favorite 80s video games.
Posted by: PabloD at November 29, 2025 09:20 AM (GALGA)
130
Kurt Gödel… I remember when I first learned about his completeness theorem back in college… it blew my mind. Still don’t understand it
Another thing that blew my mind: The Banach-Tarski Paradox…. Look it up. Fascinating and mind bending… the maths they can be confusing….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 29, 2025 09:21 AM (xT8gx)
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I have no personal animus against anyone here. But when people start throwing around the praying to “saints” stuff, it gets my hackles up. It’s not Biblical.
Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025 09:16 AM (77rzZ)
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Actually, it is very Biblical. Jesus even talks about the rich man who scorned Lazarus subsequently going to hell after he dies then begging Lazarus to ask Abraham to let him have some water.
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Bulg, I’m Protestant I don’t begrudge anyone else the freedom to worship and believe in the manner they feel is correct. I give all that consideration with the agreement that they grant me the same.
That’s what makes Islam and its pathetically pale imitation Wokeness so intolerably disgusting and noxious; no one in those faiths can bear to hear the words of any but True Believers, and they believe their only purpose in life is to violently attack all who will not join them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 09:21 AM (3U2FH)
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Eternal rest grant unto Judy, O Lord;
and let perpetual light shine upon her.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 29, 2025 09:22 AM (GhIJO)
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Been trying to make regular TCM a favorite but any go to sends it straight to HD which doesn't work. Only channel I watch that can't get. I do watch lots of old movies.
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 09:23 AM (Ia/+0)
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Bulg, you already know nobody here is going to change their mind on the subject. You were taught what you were taught. Catholics were taught differently.
For the sake of charity, I won't post a litany of your errors.
Posted by: no one at November 29, 2025 09:23 AM (GLn15)
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Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 08:14 AM (sl73Y)
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You're in my prayers. Stay strong and stay positive. You got this.
Posted by: IrishEi at November 29, 2025 09:23 AM (3ImbR)
Posted by: man at November 29, 2025 09:25 AM (XuXeR)
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Always ask YouTube for an old movie that interests you. You just may find it waiting there, gratis.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 29, 2025 09:25 AM (XQo4F)
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Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025 09:16 AM (77rzZ)
Thanks for the poo flinging.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 29, 2025 09:26 AM (KDPiq)
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61 Wrote downstairs, the DC Murderer was living in a $2000 a moth apartment, feeding a wife and 5 kids and played video games all day without a job.
Posted by: Skip
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Why it's enough to drive anyone to violence!
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 29, 2025 09:26 AM (GhIJO)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ NEXT year in Corsicana! at November 29, 2025 09:27 AM (hOUT3)
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That’s what makes Islam and its pathetically pale imitation Wokeness so intolerably disgusting and noxious; no one in those faiths can bear to hear the words of any but True Believers, and they believe their only purpose in life is to violently attack all who will not join them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 09:21 AM (3U2FH)
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While we're at it, just a reminder that there is no contemporaneous proof that Mohammed ever existed. When the Arab raiders conquered Syria and Persia, they didn't bother to update the coinage until much later, after Islam was actually developed as its own religion. When the conquest started, it was a Christian heresy.
Speaking of driving.. I guess that's how he got to DC, as it's very unlikely he had a "real ID compliant" card...
*yeah, I know)
Posted by: man at November 29, 2025 09:28 AM (XuXeR)
148
I have no worries in the world, might as well go kill a few people
That's convoluted thinking for you
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 09:28 AM (Ia/+0)
149Praying to “saints” is idolatry.
Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025 08:58 AM (77rzZ)
No, it is not. There is a difference between veneration and worship.
You might want to ponder why Protestanism is actually the minority portion of Christianity. There are more Catholics and Eastern Orthodox through-out the world. Both Catholics and the Eastern Orthodox venerate the saints.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at November 29, 2025 09:28 AM (pJWtt)
Posted by: muldoon at November 29, 2025 09:29 AM (/iMjX)
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Comedian Albert Brooks real surname is Einstein. His brother was Super Dave Osborne. Their father, also a comedian, went by the name Parkyakarkus. So, Einstein got short shrift in that family.
Parkyakarkus died onstage immediately after he finished his schtick at a roast of Lucy and Desi around 1958.
Posted by: Hey, Einstein! at November 29, 2025 09:29 AM (oftw2)
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The demons are definitely at the howling and rage stage.
So soon after pride month? And so close to kwanzaa?
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 29, 2025 09:30 AM (DxFKy)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 29, 2025 09:31 AM (DxFKy)
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So soon after pride month? And so close to kwanzaa?"
And during McCain's funeral? The bastages...
Posted by: man at November 29, 2025 09:31 AM (XuXeR)
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“Actually, it is very Biblical. Jesus even talks about the rich man who scorned Lazarus subsequently going to hell after he dies then begging Lazarus to ask Abraham to let him have some water.“
There’s some very subtle foreshadowing in that parable that many miss.
“30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’
31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”
V 30 is the rich man’s relatives, and quite clearly means the religious establishment of the day, who are ignoring “Moses and the Prophets.”
Not hard to see who One who rises from the dead is going to be.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 09:31 AM (3U2FH)
Posted by: BifBewalski - at November 29, 2025 09:32 AM (QVmho)
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By the way, there's a reading of the Islamic creed that runs thusly: "There is no God but God, and His Servant is His Prophet" and this refers to John the Forerunner, who according to the reconstructed heresy, was exalted over Christ because he was fully man and and likewise died for his faith.
There were tons of Christological heresies in the Near East, and Arianism and Nestorianism are basically just the ones we know the most about. The farther one got from Constantinople or Rome, the weirder things got.
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Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025 09:16 AM (77rzZ)
I have never really thought about the religious make up of the site. Handful of Catholics (I can name maybe... 5.) Jews a plenty. Protestants. Even a couple atheists.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 09:33 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: BifBewalski - at November 29, 2025 09:33 AM (QVmho)
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Keep playing w/those emoticons, and you too will be spending time in the barrel.
And that ain't sweet potatoes...
Posted by: man at November 29, 2025 09:33 AM (XuXeR)
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Every Saturday here at the HQ it's either Protestants and Catholics bashing each other or Boomers and GenX/Millennials bashing each other.
Give it a rest for crying out loud. .
Posted by: muldoon at November 29, 2025 09:34 AM (/iMjX)
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Parkyakarkus died onstage immediately after he finished his schtick at a roast of Lucy and Desi around 1958.
Posted by: Hey, Einstein! at November 29, 2025 09:29 AM (oftw2)
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Wow, tough crowd!
165
Are your pants ready for the Book Thread tomorrow? You're gonna need them.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 29, 2025 09:34 AM (0sNs1)
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There were tons of Christological heresies in the Near East, and Arianism and Nestorianism are basically just the ones we know the most about. The farther one got from Constantinople or Rome, the weirder things got.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 29, 2025 09:33 AM (ZOv7s)
I always thought it hilarious that the more you ran into people talking about religion and the more you studied Christian history, you realized that every brilliant, charismatic asshole in college was spouting something they thought was new and revolutionary, but that some retard 1500 years ago had thought of first.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 09:34 AM (bss/y)
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Comedian Albert Brooks real surname is Einstein. His brother was Super Dave Osborne. Their father, also a comedian, went by the name Parkyakarkus. So, Einstein got short shrift in that family.
Parkyakarkus died onstage immediately after he finished his schtick at a roast of Lucy and Desi around 1958.
Posted by: Hey, Einstein! at November 29, 2025 09:29 AM (oftw2)
I knew none of that! Super Dave made me laugh in college…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 29, 2025 09:36 AM (xT8gx)
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When the conquest started, it was a Christian heresy.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
John of Damascus, Church Father, lists Islam as the 101st heresy in his appendix of heresies in De Haeresibus (On Heresies).
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 29, 2025 09:36 AM (GhIJO)
169Every Saturday here at the HQ it's either Protestants and Catholics bashing each other or Boomers and GenX/Millennials bashing each other.
Posted by: muldoon at November 29, 2025 09:34 AM
What are we, chopped liver?
Posted by: 9x19mm vs .45ACP and MaryAnnians vs. Gingerites at November 29, 2025 09:36 AM (0sNs1)
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Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 29, 2025 08:21 AM (bfwj/)
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Your Aunt Judy sounds like a wonderful person, StG. May God rest her soul.
Posted by: IrishEi at November 29, 2025 09:36 AM (3ImbR)
I am watching an Asmongold video where a guy (recently) made a video bitching about someone looting a armor piece that he did not deserve. In WoW. In 2025.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 09:37 AM (bss/y)
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I guess it's not Movie Thread Saturday this week, so-
There's an interesting new series on Apple TV titled- "Pluribus".
It's from the same guy that did "Breaking Bad"
Slight Spoiler: It starts out as happy fun "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" but is getting progressively darker as the main character learns more.
Very cleverly written as you might expect. Well-acted and directed.
Minimal plot stupidity which would get into major spoilers so I won't discuss them.
Minor downside in that the main character is a lesbian but they honestly have really made much of it and it doesn't really affect things so far.
Well worth giving a view.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 29, 2025 09:38 AM (iJfKG)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 09:38 AM (bss/y)
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Every Saturday here at the HQ it's either Protestants and Catholics bashing each other or Boomers and GenX/Millennials bashing each other.
Posted by: muldoon at November 29, 2025 09:34 AM
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It's the fault of the Protestants and the GenXers. They're the vegans of the religious and political worlds.
Posted by: IrishEi at November 29, 2025 09:38 AM (3ImbR)
176I have never really thought about the religious make up of the site. Handful of Catholics (I can name maybe... 5.) Jews a plenty. Protestants. Even a couple atheists.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 09:33 AM
Agnostic here (raised Catholic).
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 09:39 AM (P5BPp)
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Well worth giving a view.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 29, 2025 09:38 AM (iJfKG)
If Vince Gilligan is involved Im interested… that guy is fantastic
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 29, 2025 09:39 AM (xT8gx)
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You might want to ponder why Protestanism is actually the minority portion of Christianity. There are more Catholics and Eastern Orthodox through-out the world. Both Catholics and the Eastern Orthodox venerate the saints.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at November 29, 2025 09:28 AM (pJWtt)
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Speaking of that, yesterday Patriarch Bartholomew and Pope Leo said the Creed together over the ruins of Nicea, joined by leaders from 30 other denominations who also use it. It is the 1,700th anniversary of the council held there, where Santa Claus punched Arius in the mouth.
Posted by: Weasel at November 29, 2025 09:40 AM (TMF5Z)
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TJM's video on Wells I think is his bestvso far
Maybe because I at least seen many of them
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 09:40 AM (Ia/+0)
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57 Looks like rain will ruin my golf today. Kind of beat down from the past 3 days so not too disappointed. Rain allows me to stay inside and be a couch potato without feeling guilty.
Posted by: the way I see it
Sorry, no. There is no inclement weather. Only inappropriate clothing.
Posted by: Norwegian Fisherman In Yellow Slicker at November 29, 2025 09:40 AM (oftw2)
"'I want a beer'. Paralysed man communicates first words in months using brain implant."
X: https://bit.ly/4iCyaXx
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 09:41 AM (P5BPp)
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It's the fault of the Protestants and the GenXers. They're the vegans of the religious and political worlds.
Posted by: IrishEi at November 29, 2025 09:38 AM (3ImbR)
I dunno. We've had militant atheists before. I'll admit it has been a while.
If you had put a gun to my head, I probably would have said I thought the horde was predominantly Protestant. We have a lot of vocal, regular catholics, but we also have a lot of vocal, regular Jews as well.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 09:41 AM (bss/y)
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Are your pants ready for the Book Thread tomorrow? You're gonna need them.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 29, 2025 09:34 AM (0sNs1)
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Are you trying to ruin my surprise?
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Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at November 29, 2025 09:41 AM (22p5n)
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Howdy SMH!
Posted by: Weasel at November 29, 2025 09:42 AM (TMF5Z)
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If you had put a gun to my head, I probably would have said I thought the horde was predominantly Protestant. We have a lot of vocal, regular catholics, but we also have a lot of vocal, regular Jews as well.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 09:41 AM (bss/y)
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It's because Catholics and Jews prefer a high-fiber diet.
Posted by: Short little guy in the back at November 29, 2025 09:42 AM (XQo4F)
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Snowing pretty heavily here in southern IL. First snow of the season is so pretty. So happy I'm not in it.
Supposed to turn to rain this afternoon.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at November 29, 2025 09:42 AM (22p5n)
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134 Been trying to make regular TCM a favorite but any go to sends it straight to HD which doesn't work. Only channel I watch that can't get. I do watch lots of old movies.
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 09:23 AM (Ia/+0)
I'd call the cable company and see what's up with that.
Or try the app, I used it all the time for awhile before I started watching westerns so much on other channels.
I'm like you. I like the older movies, and TCM is one of about 5 channels I watch regularly out of 200.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 29, 2025 09:42 AM (6ydKt)
1939mm euroweenies with lace on their panties vs JMB's (PBUH) righteous .45 ACPers in the Sunday PM thread laughs at your puny bashings...
Posted by: man at November 29, 2025 09:37 AM
Suggested edit.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 29, 2025 09:42 AM (0sNs1)
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It's the fault of the Protestants and the GenXers. They're the vegans of the religious and political worlds.
Posted by: IrishEi at November 29, 2025 09:38 AM (3ImbR)
Well then let’s shift to something else. No one knows what to do with the worthless population stuck in the ruins of Gaza, no one wants them. I say ship them all to Ireland, because the Irish deserve them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 09:43 AM (3U2FH)
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169 Every Saturday here at the HQ it's either Protestants and Catholics bashing each other or Boomers and GenX/Millennials bashing each other.
Posted by: muldoon at November 29, 2025 09:34 AM
What are we, chopped liver?
Posted by: 9x19mm vs .45ACP and MaryAnnians vs. Gingerites
Aim, draw, loose!
Posted by: Longbows vs Crossbows at November 29, 2025 09:43 AM (dE3DB)
Mayan. But try to find a virgin in NYC back in the 70's, so...
Posted by: man at November 29, 2025 09:43 AM (XuXeR)
197I have no personal animus against anyone here. But when people start throwing around the praying to “saints” stuff, it gets my hackles up. It’s not Biblical....
Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025 09:16 AM (77rzZ)
You are incorrect:
"... I saw a Lamb standing ... the four living creatures and twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints; and they sang a new song,..." (Rev. 5:6-
I merely petitioned St. Andrew to pray for us. I was not worshiping him as a god.
If you don't want any prayers from the saints, I'm sure that desire will be granted.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at November 29, 2025 09:43 AM (pJWtt)
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It's the fault of the Protestants and the GenXers. They're the vegans of the religious and political worlds.
Posted by: IrishEi at November 29, 2025 09:38 AM (3ImbR)
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Gen X made a hard right turn in middle age. I know so many guys my age who were irreligious and are now TLM types. I am not (yet).
Posted by: man at November 29, 2025 09:45 AM (XuXeR)
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If you had put a gun to my head, I probably would have said I thought the horde was predominantly Protestant. We have a lot of vocal, regular catholics, but we also have a lot of vocal, regular Jews as well.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 09:41 AM (bss/y)
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I agree. I think we have a bit of everything here.
...And my post was really just a joke.
Posted by: IrishEi at November 29, 2025 09:45 AM (3ImbR)
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Yeah, the longbows versus crossbows arguments were tame in comparison.
Posted by: no one at November 29, 2025 09:46 AM (GLn15)
208...It is the 1,700th anniversary of the council held there, where Santa Claus punched Arius in the mouth.
I need an icon of that.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 29, 2025 09:40 AM (ZOv7s)
Both Saints Nicholas and Athanasius (he was Nicholas's deacon, if I recall correctly) are in my personal litany of the saints. I also selected Athanasius as part of my religious name in the Lay Fraternity of St. Dominic.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at November 29, 2025 09:47 AM (pJWtt)
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I merely petitioned St. Andrew to pray for us. I was not worshiping him as a god.
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Was this an online petition, since I missed it.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 29, 2025 09:47 AM (0RiMX)
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Not the flinging of poo. The flinging of "Apostate!"
LOL. Let's unite the clans for the defense of Western Christendom.
Posted by: no one at November 29, 2025 09:47 AM (GLn15)
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I am tryin to think of the biggest dustups we have had and the source was mostly just retarded or did not know what it was. We had that one guy who started threatening to shoot people at long ranges over... nothing, iirc. He just thought people were attacking him for some reason.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 09:48 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: Mary Ann at November 29, 2025 09:48 AM (XQo4F)
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I'm glad I got the exterior Christmas lights up already. Next up is reconfiguring the room to make space for the tree.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 29, 2025 09:48 AM (0U5gm)
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176 I have never really thought about the religious make up of the site. Handful of Catholics (I can name maybe... 5.) Jews a plenty. Protestants. Even a couple atheists.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 09:33 AM
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"Don't forget the odd Zoroastrian."
-- Thus spake Zarathustra
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 29, 2025 09:49 AM (0RiMX)
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210 Not the flinging of poo. The flinging of "Apostate!"
LOL. Let's unite the clans for the defense of Western Christendom.
Posted by: no one at November 29, 2025 09:47 AM (GLn15)
Yeah, so Protestants=Heretics.
Converted Catholics=Apostate.
Non-Christians=Heathen.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 09:49 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: man at November 29, 2025 09:50 AM (XuXeR)
217
I hope Ryan Day has finally figured out how to beat Michigan.
Posted by: one hour sober at November 29, 2025 09:50 AM (Y1sOo)
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Speaking of saints, there is a Catholic and I think Orthodox tradition of picking a personal payron saint.
With Catholics, this is done at Confirmation, which typically happens at age 12 or so, but can happen at adult confirmations.
The idea is to pick a saint whose virtues and life you want to emulate and be inspired by.
Easy enough as a kid to make a choice, but as a 29+er it actually seems more challenging.
If today, you were asked, what saint or historical figure (if you don't hold with saints) would you pick to be an inspiration for you daily?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 29, 2025 09:50 AM (gDlxJ)
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Both Saints Nicholas and Athanasius (he was Nicholas's deacon, if I recall correctly) are in my personal litany of the saints. I also selected Athanasius as part of my religious name in the Lay Fraternity of St. Dominic.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at November 29, 2025 09:47 AM (pJWtt)
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When I converted, I chose St. Ignatius Loyola, but over the years I have felt an increasing affinity for St. Martin of Tours. Also, the Jesuits have lost their way and need to be suppressed. Again.
220Gen X made a hard right turn in middle age. I know so many guys my age who were irreligious and are now TLM types. I am not (yet).
I think Gen Z is swinging even harder these days.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 29, 2025 09:43 AM
Gen-X here (1976). I went the opposite way. Raised Catholic. Stopped going to church when I went to college (college didn't cause it, I would have stopped going earlier had I not been forced to go by parents). Still considered myself Christian through my 20s or so. But over the last 10-15 years or so of numerous life experiences, religion just doesn't make sense to me anymore.
I won't get into the details, since people either have faith and believe or they don't.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 09:51 AM (P5BPp)
Posted by: The Professor at November 29, 2025 09:51 AM (0sNs1)
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175 Every Saturday here at the HQ it's either Protestants and Catholics bashing each other or Boomers and GenX/Millennials bashing each other.
Posted by: muldoon
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Bigotry is an evergreen popular activity through the ages. Fortunately, smiting is a bit impossible in the gray boxes.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 09:51 AM (WDjG6)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 29, 2025 09:51 AM (TwTFS)
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218 - must pick a human
Not a deity or divinity or spirit
Someone who lived and struggled as we all do on earth
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 29, 2025 09:51 AM (gDlxJ)
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If today, you were asked, what saint or historical figure (if you don't hold with saints) would you pick to be an inspiration for you daily?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 29, 2025 09:50 AM (gDlxJ)
George Washington.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 09:51 AM (bss/y)
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Today I get to spend the entire day sitting in class so I can get a two-year renewal of my CCW, although I will also have to demonstrate the ability to hit the broad side of a barn with my Glock 43.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 29, 2025 09:51 AM (0RiMX)
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If you had put a gun to my head, I probably would have said I thought the horde was predominantly Protestant. We have a lot of vocal, regular catholics, but we also have a lot of vocal, regular Jews as well.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 09:41 AM (bss/y)
If one believes that God is the one true god, then I don't give a shit. It's all just about rituals and preening after that.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 29, 2025 09:52 AM (g8Ew8)
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I have my own deep convictions regarding Christian theology but I never debate because… why?? That debate will always generate more heat than light… I do enjoy exploring the differences to understand but a debate to change opinions is a waste of time IMHO
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 29, 2025 09:52 AM (xT8gx)
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Just noticed that Witness For The Prosecution (1957) is on TCM's site this month.
I love that flick. Charles Laughton was perfect in it and it's got Marlene Dietrich and some guy named Tyrone Power too.
Written and directed by Billy Wilder which explains why it's so good.
It's been a few years, so I'm watching that until I find a football game or something else.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 29, 2025 09:53 AM (6ydKt)
Speaking of TLM, I went to one a couple of weeks ago. It was sparsely attended, but the singing and the mass itself were lovely. The biggest downside for me was the church itself. It was very modern and even the stained glass was abstract. It took a lot away from the experience.
Posted by: IrishEi at November 29, 2025 09:54 AM (3ImbR)
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233 I have my own deep convictions regarding Christian theology but I never debate because… why?? That debate will always generate more heat than light… I do enjoy exploring the differences to understand but a debate to change opinions is a waste of time IMHO
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Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 29, 2025 09:54 AM (0RiMX)
Posted by: no one at November 29, 2025 09:54 AM (GLn15)
240
It's all about the healing. Everything else is just religious activity.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 29, 2025 09:55 AM (XQo4F)
241
although I will also have to demonstrate the ability to hit the broad side of a barn with my Glock 43."
Ahem. 1st, ensure the weapon is empty, then grab around the slide w/right hand. In a sweeping motion, starting behind you, rapidly bring it forward, releasing it towards said barn.
Then go to your nearest sporting goods shop, and purchase something in .45 ACP...
*did I do that right?*
Posted by: man at November 29, 2025 09:55 AM (XuXeR)
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I hope Ryan Day has finally figured out how to beat Michigan.
Posted by: one hour sober
Let's hope Carnell Tate and Jeremiah Smith are healthy enough to play today.
Posted by: Tuna at November 29, 2025 09:55 AM (lJ0H4)
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I hope Ryan Day has finally figured out how to beat Michigan.
Posted by: one hour sober at November 29, 2025 09:50 AM (Y1sOo)
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Does Michigan have OSU's playbook and all its signals? That was hard to overcome.
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211 I am tryin to think of the biggest dustups we have had and the source was mostly just retarded or did not know what it was. We had that one guy who started threatening to shoot people at long ranges over... nothing, iirc. He just thought people were attacking him for some reason.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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I think often mentally ill people gravitate toward the online world for connections as many do not have social networks IRRL anymore.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 09:56 AM (WDjG6)
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We had that one guy who started threatening to shoot people at long ranges over... nothing, iirc. He just thought people were attacking him for some reason.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 09:48 AM (bss/y)
Wow. That’s one I missed, fortunately.
“ 230 If today, you were asked, what saint or historical figure (if you don't hold with saints) would you pick to be an inspiration for you daily?”
Oliver Cromwell.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 09:56 AM (3U2FH)
246Today I get to spend the entire day sitting in class so I can get a two-year renewal of my CCW, although I will also have to demonstrate the ability to hit the broad side of a barn with my Glock 43.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 29, 2025 09:51 AM
Using a .44 Magnum (or even better, the king of Magnums, a .41 Magnum) gives you a certain gravitas among the other students, as well as a little elbow room when the lanes next to you clear out.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 29, 2025 09:56 AM (0sNs1)
Posted by: no one at November 29, 2025 09:57 AM (GLn15)
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I think often mentally ill people gravitate toward the online world for connections as many do not have social networks IRRL anymore.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 09:56 AM (WDjG6)
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Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 29, 2025 09:57 AM (9ipOP)
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Speaking of TLM, I went to one a couple of weeks ago. It was sparsely attended, but the singing and the mass itself were lovely. The biggest downside for me was the church itself. It was very modern and even the stained glass was abstract. It took a lot away from the experience.
Posted by: IrishEi at November 29, 2025 0 9:54 AM (3ImbR)
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Sunday night the student location (formerly its own parish) held a candle light Mass that was outstanding. Significant parts were in Latin. Gotta brush up on that.
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I think often mentally ill people gravitate toward the online world for connections as many do not have social networks IRRL anymore.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 09:56 AM (WDjG6)
Hmmm. I'd disagree only in that I think the common element to a lot of these is alcohol.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 09:57 AM (bss/y)
251I hope Ryan Day has finally figured out how to beat Michigan.
Posted by: one hour sober at November 29, 2025 09:50 AM
Absolutely. It was so nice for about 15+ years after I moved here to Michigan in 1999 when Ohio State was dominating Michigan. I did not have to listen to my insufferable Michigan fan friends talk shit all the time.
From 2001 to 2019, OSU went 17-2 vs UM. Loved it. Even though I am not an OSU alum. Purdue alum. But when UM fans and alums looked down their noses at me since I was a Purdue grad, I became an Ohio State fan out of spite.
After 19 years of dominance, last 4 seasons have sucked.
Back around 2008 or so, I pulled up behind a car decked out in OSU stuff. License plate read "WEOWNUM". Brought a smile to my face.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 09:57 AM (P5BPp)
252Gen X made a hard right turn in middle age. I know so many guys my age who were irreligious and are now TLM types. I am not (yet).
I think Gen Z is swinging even harder these days.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 29, 2025 09:43 AM (ZOv7s)
Late Boomer, myself. I admit to tiring of the Novus Ordo Mass. The only reason I have not left my NO parish is because of Mrs. Cop: she's become very active with the Women's Prayer Group there and (as a Protestant convert) the Tredentine Latin Mass is very foreign to her.
My 15-year-old grandson converted to Catholicism and is very devout. He just came back from the National Catholic Youth Conference. One of his aunts mentioned to Mrs. Cop on how much he has matured.
I noticed that he was wearing his Crucifix and religious medals outside he shirt at the family Thanksgiving. Previously, he would only wear them visible at Mass, and usually wore them under his shirt. I always were my Cross of St. Dominic (symbol of my Lay Faternity) outside my shirt when in public.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at November 29, 2025 09:58 AM (pJWtt)
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Let’s cut through the squabbling and dissension in the ranks, people. There are far larger issues at stake.
Like say, Carrots in Chili
Posted by: Common Tater at November 29, 2025 09:58 AM (HbU2V)
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I’ve irritated people from time to time by opining that early Christianity was a kind of cross between OT Judaism and Zoroastrian beliefs.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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The history of religion and its practices is so vast that it is easy to use the Texas Sharpshooter fallacy to make your points.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 09:58 AM (WDjG6)
255
what saint or historical figure (if you don't hold with saints) would you pick to be an inspiration for you daily?”
Jeff Cooper?
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 29, 2025 09:58 AM (7Qv0C)
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Using a .44 Magnum (or even better, the king of Magnums, a .41 Magnum) gives you a certain gravitas among the other students, as well as a little elbow room when the lanes next to you clear out.
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Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 29, 2025 09:58 AM (0RiMX)
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String Theory had not yet been fully developed in those days.
Posted by: muldoon at November 29, 2025 08:31 AM (/iMjX)
But I'm working on it!
Posted by: Dr. Sheldon Cooper PHD at November 29, 2025 09:58 AM (5xuJ/)
258
"It's all just about rituals and preening after that.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 29, 2025 09:52 AM"
Don't forget the headwear:
https://youtu.be/9PmWEElulG8
Posted by: George Costanza at November 29, 2025 09:59 AM (XQo4F)
259Let's hope Carnell Tate and Jeremiah Smith are healthy enough to play today.
Posted by: Tuna at November 29, 2025 09:55 AM
Ohio State wide receivers Jeremiah Smith and Carnell Tate are expected to play against Michigan on Saturday, sources told ESPN.
Both Buckeyes stars have been limited in practice while dealing with lower-body injuries. The wide receivers are expected to be listed as questionable on the Big Ten availability report, but the expectation is they are available to play barring anything unforeseen in warmups.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 09:59 AM (P5BPp)
260
The great thing about being a Solipsist is there's no point in proseletyzing.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 29, 2025 09:54 AM (0RiMX)
Perhaps… but I’m definitely not a Solipsist
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 29, 2025 09:59 AM (xT8gx)
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248 I think often mentally ill people gravitate toward the online world for connections as many do not have social networks IRRL anymore.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 09:56 AM (WDjG6)
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Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 29, 2025 09:57 AM (9ipOP)
*golfclap*
A well placed self-zing is a thing of beauty. I'd say this is one thing we have over the Left.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 09:59 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 29, 2025 10:00 AM (7Qv0C)
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Long drive ahead of me today. Have to get To New Orleans by 4AM Sunday to "thump" Wolfus' front door.
Posted by: Anything For a Joke at November 29, 2025 10:00 AM (oftw2)
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I have no worries in the world, might as well go kill a few people
That's convoluted thinking for you
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 09:28 AM (Ia/+0)
You're mistranslating Islam-to-Human.
"The infudel mushrikun owe me this indolent existence as their jizya... it befits both of us. But as long as they refuse submission to Allah then they are still in dar al-harb, and death befits both of us.
*casts side-eye on homely wife in a shmata*
And there 72 more of them and they have their teeth."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2025 10:00 AM (BI5O2)
265
gives you a certain gravitas among the other students"
It does. Bunch of us @ LTC test, I'm only .45. Paper targets just hung there for everyone else, as mine rocked back and forth...
And I cleared out the X ring...
Posted by: man at November 29, 2025 10:00 AM (XuXeR)
Anything they sing is good. But this is wonderful.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 29, 2025 10:00 AM (2J/Lj)
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255 what saint or historical figure (if you don't hold with saints) would you pick to be an inspiration for you daily?”
Jeff Cooper?
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 29, 2025 09:58 AM (7Qv0C)
If we were going that way, then John Moses Browning (PBUH.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 10:01 AM (bss/y)
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Hmmm. I'd disagree only in that I think the common element to a lot of these is alcohol.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Here possibly because of efficient use of the banhammer. Elsewhere, in some cases, I've witnessed restraining orders, etc. being used to dig out mentally ill trolls. We have one such that appears from time to time here that has been banned from multiple blogs because of an idee fixe against a specific blogger.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 10:01 AM (WDjG6)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 29, 2025 10:01 AM (7Qv0C)
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have never really thought about the religious make up of the site. Handful of Catholics (I can name maybe... 5.) Jews a plenty. Protestants. Even a couple atheists.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
What about us wishy washy types.
Posted by: Yer home town agnostic. at November 29, 2025 10:01 AM (sl73Y)
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Went out to at least rake up last batch of chopped leaves, breezy a little and 34 degrees so came back inside.
Still playing with TV, will try something else
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 10:02 AM (Ia/+0)
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Well, time to get going before the snow gets here. God be with you!
One had a guy reacting to a President Kennedy speech where the latter warns of a dark conspiracy trying to take over the world.
And...he hinting Kennedy meant...Jews. And the comments were a mix of "is this AI or real?" and..."he knew!"
WTF. He was warning about communism. It was a common theme in his speeches. And of course as we know he was right. Too bad he wasn't so good at doing anything about it but...how could you not know this?!?
Also, those Oct 7 attacks on Israel worked - almost the entire left is now on board the Islamist agenda aren't they?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2025 10:02 AM (sKqQm)
275
I understand bringing a Panzerfaust is right out."
Yeah. One guy brought a .17Hornet to the LTC test. Had to go rent something a bit larger, as that doesn't work in Texasland...
Posted by: man at November 29, 2025 10:03 AM (XuXeR)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 10:03 AM (bss/y)
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Written and directed by Billy Wilder which explains why it's so good.
It's been a few years, so I'm watching that until I find a football game or something else.
Posted by: SpeakingOf
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Based on the hit 1953 play by mystery writer Agatha Christie. Billy had relatively little to do to adapt it.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 10:04 AM (WDjG6)
278
religion just doesn't make sense to me anymore.
I won't get into the details, since people either have faith and believe or they don't.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 09:51 AM (P5BPp)
I get that. I'm a doubtful believer. Or a faithful skeptic. Or something like that.
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When OSU lost to Michigan last year it’s because Michigan was living rent free in their head… they had a vastly superior team but somehow tried to prove their manhood by running straight into the strength of the Michigan team (two pro defensive tackles)… they had 20 ways to win that game and one way to lose it. They chose the one
I doubt they’ll make that mistake again I actually expect they’ll win comfortably today
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 29, 2025 10:04 AM (xT8gx)
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273 I'm pulling for Indiana. The Big 10 bottom feeder for decades.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory
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Appropriate, college football fans emulate religious activity. Including quasi religious garb to watch in person or even on tv.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 10:05 AM (WDjG6)
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Also, those Oct 7 attacks on Israel worked - almost the entire left is now on board the Islamist agenda aren't they?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2025 10:02 AM (sKqQm)
Counter argument is that they always were on board with the Islamist agenda. Crises have a way of getting everyone to drop their masks and show their true faces.
I have been surprised how much of it has been hiding on the right, although I still believe that’s a small group that makes a big noise.
They must be excised.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 10:06 AM (3U2FH)
282When I converted, I chose St. Ignatius Loyola, but over the years I have felt an increasing affinity for St. Martin of Tours. Also, the Jesuits have lost their way and need to be suppressed. Again.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 29, 2025 09:50 AM (ZOv7s)
I chose St. Andrew as my patron for Confirmation ***mumble*** years ago. However, as a Lay Brother in the Order of Preachers, I feel a lot of affinity for St. Athanasius.
The stupidity or arrogance of modern Jesuits doesn't detract from the excellent spiritual work of St. Ignatius of Loyola.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at November 29, 2025 10:06 AM (pJWtt)
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WTF. He was warning about communism. It was a common theme in his speeches. And of course as we know he was right. Too bad he wasn't so good at doing anything about it but...how could you not know this?!?
Also, those Oct 7 attacks on Israel worked - almost the entire left is now on board the Islamist agenda aren't they?
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Depends if you are living in Gaza or not.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 10:07 AM (WDjG6)
284
"Appropriate, college football fans emulate religious activity."
That reminds me: what are we having today at the tailgate communion?
Posted by: SEC fan at November 29, 2025 10:08 AM (XQo4F)
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Counter argument is that they always were on board with the Islamist agenda. Crises have a way of getting everyone to drop their masks and show their true faces.
I have been surprised how much of it has been hiding on the right, although I still believe that’s a small group that makes a big noise.
They must be excised.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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I would agree because both share the goal of destroying Western Civilization in favor of something else.
The left and Islamists agree on destruction first (Iran had that issue with the Shah) and then they plan on doing each other dirty in the rubble. Sort of like the mustache men dictators in WWII.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 10:08 AM (WDjG6)
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almost the entire left is now on board the Islamist agenda aren't they?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2025 10:02 AM (sKqQm)
I think the masks have slipped, but the left has hated Israel for a very long time.
Remember...Israel used to be socialist, and saw the error of its ways. That is unforgivable!
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I like St. Therese of Liseaux "The Little Flower."
The Little Way. Just do everyday ordinary things as best you can with great love.
Posted by: no one at November 29, 2025 10:09 AM (GLn15)
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That reminds me: what are we having today at the tailgate communion?
Posted by: SEC fan
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That is truly a fight for the stomachs of believers.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 10:09 AM (WDjG6)
289
Malachi Martin wrote "The Jesuits." They embraced modernism and lost their way.
Posted by: no one at November 29, 2025 10:10 AM (GLn15)
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276 You never run into a militant Unitarian.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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But they are a literal religious sect founded on such. which makes me laugh a bit. Those that the Lord would destroy, he first makes look foolish.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 10:11 AM (WDjG6)
Posted by: H.P. Lovecraft - at November 29, 2025 10:13 AM (QVmho)
295I have been surprised how much of it has been hiding on the right, although I still believe that’s a small group that makes a big noise.
TBH the right leaning stuff is mostly astroturf.
Yes there has always been an antisemitic part of the right - you can read them in ZH comments for example.
But most of the current stuff looks very clearly to me like certain oligarchs spending money on the "rightwing influencers" like Owens for example.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 29, 2025 10:13 AM (sKqQm)
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Remember...Israel used to be socialist, and saw the error of its ways. That is unforgivable!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 29, 2025 10:09 AM (26X+Q
This is a simplification but not by much.
The USSR was the first to officially recognize Israeli statehood, as they were big on "self-determination by Moscow" for every developing nation, and the Zionists had socialist tendencies, so it was predicted in Moscow that they'd duly fall into the Party line.
This didn't materialize - over the next 20 years, Israel slowly but surely drifted into the American sphere - this was never forgiven by the Left, and as the USSR shifted toward the Arabs permanently, so did their American useful idiots.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2025 10:14 AM (BI5O2)
Usually that game has the entire weekend to itself. So it's after the regular season and conference championship games have been played.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 10:15 AM (P5BPp)
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294
Where is the tentacle love?
Posted by: H.P. Lovecraft
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IN Japan, where it belongs.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 10:15 AM (WDjG6)
299Long drive ahead of me today. Have to get To New Orleans by 4AM Sunday to "thump" Wolfus' front door.
Posted by: Anything For a Joke at November 29, 2025
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Bring rain gear. We have a 60% chance of rain.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 29, 2025 10:15 AM (wzUl9)
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The left and Islamists agree on destruction first (Iran had that issue with the Shah) and then they plan on doing each other dirty in the rubble. Sort of like the mustache men dictators in WWII.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 10:08 AM (WDjG6)
Whenever this topic comes up on X, I toss in a meme of two smiling Lego men in Arab headgear and clothing tossing another smiling Lego man with a rainbow shirt off a roof.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 10:16 AM (3U2FH)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 29, 2025 10:18 AM (7Qv0C)
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Appropriate, college football fans emulate religious activity. Including quasi religious garb to watch in person or even on tv.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 10:05 AM (WDjG6)
I tend to think of it more as a substitute for warfare, without (mostly) the killing and pillaging.
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>>> 179 Rastafarian.
Posted by: Weasel at November 29, 2025 09:40 AM (TMF5Z)
*slaps forehead*
Duh, I should have known from your hair!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 29, 2025 10:19 AM (ULPxl)
306
I have A Worcester Ladymass on my phone. I rented a car, when we went to scatter my husband's ashes, and took my stepson with me. That came up on the phone, so we played it the whole trip. Seemed like the right thing to play, so left it going for the trip back. I have several of their albums but that one is a favorite.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 29, 2025 10:20 AM (+mUZM)
On his deathbed, he was baptized by a Jesuit.
Posted by: no one at November 29, 2025 09:57 AM (GLn15)
This is bullshit. There is an hour by hour, and minute by minute eye witness account of his last hours. There is absolutely no proven fact that he ever "converted" to Catholicism at any time in his life. Reading some internet false claims and then spreading them is silly.
Posted by: runner at November 29, 2025 10:20 AM (g47mK)
308Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 08:14 AM (sl73Y)
Prayers up, FaTT. You got this. The cancer won't kill you. You will kill the cancer. That's an order
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2025 08:16 AM
Yeah! C'mon, FaTT, you got this! You can beat...you know...the thing!
Posted by: Joe Biden at November 29, 2025 10:20 AM (Wnv9h)
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This didn't materialize - over the next 20 years, Israel slowly but surely drifted into the American sphere - this was never forgiven by the Left, and as the USSR shifted toward the Arabs permanently, so did their American useful idiots.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2025 10:14 AM (BI5O2)
Funny how Russia has now lost all of its influence in the Middle East. Some have criticized how friendly Trump has been with the Saudis, especially with the joint military agreements. But if you wonder what risks he’s guarding against, you need only look at how much gear Egypt has started to buy from China. Pretty advanced stuff, too.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 10:21 AM (3U2FH)
We're due for a YUGE snow dump starting this evening.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 29, 2025 10:21 AM (kpS4V)
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like St. Therese of Liseaux "The Little Flower."
The mayor of New York?
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 29, 2025 10:21 AM (7Qv0C)
312
Sunny, fresh, and cool here . . . and I don't have any real errands to run. Weird.
I could go out to Boot Barn and see what they have on offer. I could use a second pair in a different color -- a caramel brown, say, or a black.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 29, 2025 10:22 AM (wzUl9)
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Based on the hit 1953 play by mystery writer Agatha Christie. Billy had relatively little to do to adapt it.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 10:04 AM (WDjG6)
I did not know that.
I like the movie because it shows how the legal system works in the UK. Something I've been rarely exposed to in courtroom dramas. It's interesting for that reason alone just to see the differences between their courts and ours.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 29, 2025 10:23 AM (6ydKt)
314Speaking of that, yesterday Patriarch Bartholomew and Pope Leo said the Creed together over the ruins of Nicea, joined by leaders from 30 other denominations who also use it. It is the 1,700th anniversary of the council held there, where Santa Claus punched Arius in the mouth.
I need an icon of that.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 29, 2025 09:40 AM
Ah, yes...St. Nicholas slaptizing Arius.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 29, 2025 10:23 AM (Wnv9h)
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Besides, Catholicism was way too dogmatic for learned Washington, a Freemason who rejected dogmatism.
Posted by: runner at November 29, 2025 10:23 AM (g47mK)
Posted by: Mick at November 29, 2025 10:28 AM (HFx9z)
326This is bullshit. There is an hour by hour, and minute by minute eye witness account of his last hours. There is absolutely no proven fact that he ever "converted" to Catholicism at any time in his life. Reading some internet false claims and then spreading them is silly.
Posted by: runner at November 29, 2025 10:20 AM
Grok summary:
You're correct. There is no credible historical evidence that George Washington ever converted to Catholicism, either on his deathbed or at any other point in his life.
The story of a supposed deathbed conversion to Catholicism originates from a single, highly dubious source: a 19th-century account published decades after Washington's death by a Catholic priest named Charles Wharton, who claimed that a former slave or servant allegedly witnessed a priest administering last rites to Washington. This story was later embellished in Catholic publications, but it has been thoroughly debunked by historians.
Key facts that refute the claim:
Grok: https://bit.ly/4irWPOz
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 10:28 AM (P5BPp)
327Now I cranberry walk.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 29, 2025 10:26 AM
That pain could...linger.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 29, 2025 10:29 AM (Wnv9h)
328
Go to Mount Vernon and ask the docent.
Posted by: no one at November 29, 2025 10:25 AM (GLn15)
More bullshit. Mount Vernon official page says the following: "While George Washington was an Anglican, he had a cordial relationship with the Catholic Church and its members for many years."
https://tinyurl.com/mwja7r4a
Posted by: runner at November 29, 2025 10:29 AM (g47mK)
329
Diogenes deserves to have the stuffing beat out of him for that bad joke.
Posted by: one hour sober at November 29, 2025 10:29 AM (Y1sOo)
330 Things are about to get sauce-y.
I bog my pardon.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at November 29, 2025 10:29 AM (QVmho)
331
Diogenes at least you didn't break your wishbone
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 10:29 AM (Ia/+0)
332
Did it leave the proper cranberry shape of the dog food can on your foot?
Posted by: BifBewalski - at November 29, 2025 10:28 AM (QVmho)
I think that shape stays all the way thru.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 29, 2025 10:30 AM (y3bZw)
Posted by: BifBewalski - at November 29, 2025 10:31 AM (QVmho)
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333 George Washington was gay!
Posted by: The Yellow Press of the Internets at November 29, 2025 10:30 AM (g47mK)
Heh. I thought that was Lincoln?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 10:32 AM (bss/y)
336
I have long adored “Witness for the Prosecution” , Charles Laughton being a favorite of mine, but I hadn’t realized before that Agatha Christie was responsible for it. Fun trivia - Elsa Lanchester, who plays Laughton’s nurse, was his wife at the time, and until he died in 1962.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 10:32 AM (3U2FH)
337
Well.
Off to the golf course.
Back later gang.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 29, 2025 10:33 AM (y3bZw)
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The story of a supposed deathbed conversion to Catholicism originates from a single, highly dubious source: a 19th-century account published decades after Washington's death by a Catholic priest named Charles Wharton, who claimed that a former slave or servant allegedly witnessed a priest administering last rites to Washington.
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A priest might give last rites, or some kind of blessing, to a dying non-Catholic.
There's a lot of gray area here left to the discernment of the priest.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 29, 2025 10:33 AM (DoBxX)
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You are not one of the few Protestants around here, Bulg: it's just that we are not as vocal as some of our Catholic friends.
Three-fourths of American Christians are Protestants.
--Direct descendant of the heroic Sir Thomas Wyatt here.
Posted by: Beverly at November 29, 2025 10:33 AM (Epeb0)
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Heh. I thought that was Lincoln?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 29, 2025 10:32 AM (bss/y)
No Jefferson Davis was the gay vampire, that’s why Lincoln hunted him.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 10:33 AM (3U2FH)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 29, 2025 10:34 AM (Cjt/F)
342George Washington was gay!
Posted by: The Yellow Press of the Internets at November 29, 2025 10:30 AM
Impossible! I was the only gay man in Virginia!
Posted by: Daffyd Thomas' great-great-great grandfather at November 29, 2025 10:34 AM (Wnv9h)
343
It serves the Statanist purpose to pit man against woman, and old against young, and black against white, and Christian against Jew, and Christian against Christian, and every American against one another, so that the Americans will be shattered and their almighty State can rule all those divided factions.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2025 10:34 AM (BI5O2)
I like the movie because it shows how the legal system works in the UK. Something I've been rarely exposed to in courtroom dramas. It's interesting for that reason alone just to see the differences between their courts and ours.
Posted by: SpeakingOf
If you can find it online, Rumpole of the Bailey (first a series of books by former barrister John Mortimer then later a BBC series) is a comedy based on the life of a barrister who practices criminal law as a defense counsel.
The book series and the BBC series (before woke productions) are trenchant, politically incorrect, and funny. Books are mostly compilations of short stories of Rumpole representing various clients while navigating his Inn of Court collection of barristers and life with the formidable Hilda Rumpole. TV series authentically brings them to life.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 10:36 AM (WDjG6)
President Trump says “if the story is properly told”, Republicans should win the midterms in RECORD NUMBERS.
“I AM THE AFFORDABILITY PRESIDENT!”
X: https://bit.ly/3XpiMUM
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 10:37 AM (P5BPp)
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George Washington was gay!
Posted by: The Yellow Press of the Internets at November 29, 2025 10:30 AM (g47mK)
This fits the "Mr. Garrison Test."
Martha was unable to bear children, and therefore a dude, so George was gay.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2025 10:37 AM (BI5O2)
348
Hollywood Christmas parade tomorrow night.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 29, 2025 10:17 AM (7Qv0C)
The theme is a coming-out party for baby Jesus. Gay at birth. It'll be fabulous.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 29, 2025 10:38 AM (g8Ew8)
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336 I have long adored “Witness for the Prosecution” , Charles Laughton being a favorite of mine, but I hadn’t realized before that Agatha Christie was responsible for it. Fun trivia - Elsa Lanchester, who plays Laughton’s nurse, was his wife at the time, and until he died in 1962.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Twists and turns apparently come naturally to British mystery writers often to comedic effect for some.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 10:38 AM (WDjG6)
350
“Witness for the Prosecution” Is quite awesome
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 29, 2025 10:39 AM (DoBxX)
351
Reading some internet false claims and then spreading them is silly.
Posted by: runner
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That is what the internet was apparently invented to do. Blame Al Gore.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 10:40 AM (WDjG6)
I've been told I'm not a Christian by Christians, not a Jew by Jews, not a Hindu by Hindus, and not a Buddhist by Buddhists.
Posted by: pawn at November 29, 2025 10:40 AM (sPsWv)
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There is no record of a Catholic priest being present at Washington's deathbed. No pastor either. Or shaman. Or Whirling Dervishes.
Posted by: runner at November 29, 2025 10:41 AM (g47mK)
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350 “Witness for the Prosecution” Is quite awesome
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Been several versions over the years. I prefer the 1957 version with Charles Laughton.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 10:41 AM (WDjG6)
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I chose Leo as my confirmation name years ago because that was my middle name and I did not want two middle names.
Shallow is as shallow does, the early years.
Posted by: Yer home town agnostic. at November 29, 2025 10:41 AM (sl73Y)
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Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 10:36 AM (WDjG6)
Lol, my mom has the "She Who Must Be Obeyed" sweatshirt, and wears it proudly.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2025 10:41 AM (BI5O2)
357
According to Ken Burns the Iroquois basically wrote our constitution so yeah George Washington was gay why not? These people have proven over and over again they don’t care about truth or facts…. The old Lincoln was gay nonsense…. It just gets tiring after awhile
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 29, 2025 10:42 AM (xT8gx)
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Just a heathen that believes he has a personal relationship in God and can see God's hand in many things.
Posted by: pawn at November 29, 2025 10:42 AM (sPsWv)
I've been told I'm not a Christian by Christians, not a Jew by Jews, not a Hindu by Hindus, and not a Buddhist by Buddhists.
Posted by: pawn
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Well, it is clear from discussions, whatever you are practicing in religious faith--another will be here to tell you that you are doing it wrong.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 10:43 AM (WDjG6)
360
I would have guessed a black woman wrote the constitution. I mean black women have done pretty much every other noteworthy thing in history so why not?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 29, 2025 10:44 AM (uDDWT)
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Rumple is one of the great BBC dramas, and Leo McKern is one of the great British actors of the era. Perhaps most known by Americans who’ve seen “The Prisoner,”
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 10:44 AM (3U2FH)
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357 According to Ken Burns the Iroquois basically wrote our constitution so yeah George Washington was gay why not? These people have proven over and over again they don’t care about truth or facts…. The old Lincoln was gay nonsense…. It just gets tiring after awhile
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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It is meant to be demoralizing and tiring. And to destroy history to make people rootless and subjects rather than citizens.
Tower of Babel bullshit all over again and likely to end up working about as well.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 10:44 AM (WDjG6)
NEW: President Trump completely shuts down the airspace above and surrounding Venezuela.
X: https://bit.ly/4pf9qHw
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 10:44 AM (P5BPp)
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We have individuals in this country now preaching that until sharia takes over the White House, there will be no peace to the infidel. These savages do not know about George Washington, but hey sure know their umma.
Posted by: runner at November 29, 2025 10:45 AM (g47mK)
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Fun trivia - Elsa Lanchester, who plays Laughton’s nurse, was his wife at the time, and until he died in 1962.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 10:32 AM (3U2FH)
That's hilarious considering how he treats her in the film.
I didn't know that bit of trivia either.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 29, 2025 10:45 AM (6ydKt)
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361 Rumple is one of the great BBC dramas, and Leo McKern is one of the great British actors of the era. Perhaps most known by Americans who’ve seen “The Prisoner,”
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Also the villain of the Beatles "Help!" movie.
Fun fact, actress in Rumpole of the Bailey series playing Liz Probert was McKern's daughter Abigail McKern.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 10:46 AM (WDjG6)
Posted by: pawn at November 29, 2025 10:47 AM (sPsWv)
368
I’m still blown away that Super Dave’s brother is Albert Brooks!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 29, 2025 10:47 AM (xT8gx)
369
Last night's Longhorn final home game was one of the best ever! I'll be hoarse for days. If the Huskies beat Oregon it will be a perfect weekend.
Posted by: LASue at November 29, 2025 10:47 AM (lCppi)
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"Exercise is a shortcut to the grave." - Horace Rumpole
In that story, a colleague was jogging and subsequently died of a heart attack.
Posted by: no one at November 29, 2025 10:48 AM (GLn15)
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The book series and the BBC series (before woke productions) are trenchant, politically incorrect, and funny. Books are mostly compilations of short stories of Rumpole representing various clients while navigating his Inn of Court collection of barristers and life with the formidable Hilda Rumpole. TV series authentically brings them to life.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 10:36 AM (WDjG6)
Nice. If I ever run across it and remember I'll definitely check it out.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 29, 2025 10:49 AM (6ydKt)
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I’m still blown away that Super Dave’s brother is Albert Brooks!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 29, 2025 10:47 AM (xT8gx)
Brooks was a funny guy. I liked Lost in America.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2025 10:49 AM (BI5O2)
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"President Trump completely shuts down the airspace above and surrounding Venezuela."
Oh shit. This is going to be bad.
Posted by: pawn at November 29, 2025 10:49 AM (sPsWv)
Salute.
Posted by: pawn
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I'm kinda get along and go along unless someone purports to tell me what to do. Then I get on my high rhetorical horse.
Tragic case of oppositional defiance disorder.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 10:49 AM (WDjG6)
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Matt Walsh has a good takedown of Propaganda Burns tosses into his American Revolution series.
Changes the reason for the Revolution from the 1619 BS to we fought the British because Indians gave Franklin the idea of a united colony and then to steal Indian land
And lots of other woke crap
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 10:49 AM (Ia/+0)
376According to Ken Burns the Iroquois basically wrote our constitution...
While you guys were all hung up on 'The Wheel', we were busy accomplishing shit.
Posted by: The Iroquois Space Program at November 29, 2025 10:51 AM (+5DDj)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at November 29, 2025 10:51 AM (KYNqM)
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"Tragic case of oppositional defiance disorder."
If that is the same as telling authority figures to go fuck themselves in a nice way most of my life, I'm with you.
Posted by: pawn at November 29, 2025 10:52 AM (sPsWv)
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Nice. If I ever run across it and remember I'll definitely check it out.
Posted by: SpeakingOf
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I think Rumpole goes on and off as a series on Amazon Prime and episodes are probably around on YT for streaming. Certainly enough clips around to get the gist of the arrangement.
If I had to pick one story from the series that is both sobering and hilarious--plus totally politically incorrect, "Rumpole and the Tap End" is the epitome of a Rumpole short story and BBC episode.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 10:52 AM (WDjG6)
380
At our favorite breakfast joint, vidscreen on CNN,
Posted by: Eromero at November 29, 2025 10:53 AM (CeUot)
381376 According to Ken Burns the Iroquois basically wrote our constitution...
While you guys were all hung up on 'The Wheel', we were busy accomplishing shit.
Posted by: The Iroquois Space Program at November 29, 2025 10:51 AM (+5DDj)
Oh no you dint! Step back, yo!
Posted by: The Wakandan Space Program at November 29, 2025 10:53 AM (PiwSw)
382I chose St. Andrew as my patron for Confirmation ***mumble*** years ago.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at November 29, 2025 10:06 AM
I chose St. Joseph when I was confirmed in 1989 (7th grade). I still have some of the projects we did back then going through the Confirmation process. My mom had them saved in a bunch of boxes of pictures and videos and school projects of my brothers and me.
I recently found my journal we had to keep where each day we had to write to the Holy Spirit about something we did that day to become closer to God.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 10:53 AM (P5BPp)
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Prayers for all those traveling in the next couple days including Marine and his wife this evening. May everyone return home safe and happy with relatively little turbulence.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 29, 2025 10:53 AM (mT+6a)
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If that is the same as telling authority figures to go fuck themselves in a nice way most of my life, I'm with you.
Posted by: pawn
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Yep. I blame my father's ancestors coming from the Scottish Highlands.
My mother's English side probably has diluted the strain a bit so I can get along in society today.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 10:54 AM (WDjG6)
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Tragic case of oppositional defiance disorder.
Posted by: whig
Been accused of having that many a time. Wear the accusation proudly.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 10:54 AM (sl73Y)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 10:55 AM (P5BPp)
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While you guys were all hung up on 'The Wheel', we were busy accomplishing shit.
Posted by: The Iroquois Space Program
When not eating our captives.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 10:56 AM (sl73Y)
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383 Prayers for all those traveling in the next couple days including Marine and his wife this evening. May everyone return home safe and happy with relatively little turbulence.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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Prayers sent. And for you as well. May your heart be light as well as your burdens.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 10:56 AM (WDjG6)
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Oh, really? That's a really old crunchy Boomer meme from before the internet.
"The early Americans' frequent citations of Western political thought from Greeks and Romans through Locke, Hobbes, and Montesquieu nothwithstanding, the red heathen Iriquois had a formalized confederation, so that's where our Constitution really came from!"
Risible nonsense.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2025 10:56 AM (BI5O2)
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The story is that a Jesuit priest got into a boat and rowed across the Chesapeake from a Jesuit facility in Maryland to Mt. Vernon. Washington received him and was baptized and given viaticum.
It's funny because at the time, the Jesuits were suppressed. The Jesuits have the written record of the event. Someone touring Mt. Vernon asked the docent if there was any truth to the story. The docent said "Oh yes."
"Believe that Jane, if it gives you comfort." - Mr. Bennett.
Posted by: no one at November 29, 2025 10:56 AM (GLn15)
391
Women have always have a wonderful civilizing influence.
Posted by: no one at November 29, 2025 10:58 AM (GLn15)
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Thanks for all the well wishes. I have faith that all will work out as it will.
Posted by: From about That Time at November 29, 2025 11:00 AM (sl73Y)
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I remember laughing off that newly fashionable Constitutional Iriquois nonsense while arguing with a bien pensant midwit friend when I was 14. I guess some old bullshit is just evergreen.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2025 11:00 AM (BI5O2)
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Good morning all
Late but had to read all the comments.
Had a disagreement yesterday with my sister about sending Hannukah gifts to 10 grandchildren most of whomI've never met off lists so no thought goes into the process, no recognition of who sent them. Apparently I am hateful, care nothing for family several states away, so iis not worthy of being talked to ever again.. Spent most of yesterday brooding about this. Now wondering if I should care .
As families went Christmas shopping, they were met by this.
X video: https://bit.ly/48q0IyG
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 11:00 AM (P5BPp)
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If that is the same as telling authority figures to go fuck themselves in a nice way most of my life, I'm with you.
Posted by: pawn at November 29, 2025 10:52 AM (sPsWv)
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*makes note on list*
Posted by: The Powers That Be at November 29, 2025 11:01 AM (lkBjo)
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Now wondering if I should care .
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 29, 2025 11:00 AM (t/2Uw)
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Perhaps a token gift is worth peace in the house
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 29, 2025 11:02 AM (lkBjo)
398
Albert Brooks hates Milton Berle to this day because he Uncle Miltie spoke at Parkyakarkus memorial service and did his usual "Comedy" routine.
Posted by: Milton Was Somewhat Detestable at November 29, 2025 11:07 AM (oftw2)
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Saying that the Iroquois League was a taproot of the American system is like saying highland Bolivian tribesmen invented Coca-Cola.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2025 11:08 AM (BI5O2)
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San Fran, was thinking about sending something to their Hannukah party. A group gift of some kind, food, candy, maybe a game. It is only one of my sisters. The other one understands and we are going to try and work something out.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 29, 2025 11:09 AM (PiwSw)
402Apparently I am hateful, care nothing for family several states away, so iis not worthy of being talked to ever again..
Given your version of the story, your sister is exhibiting Borderline Personality Disorder.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 11:09 AM (a4flb)
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I think Rumpole goes on and off as a series on Amazon Prime and episodes are probably around on YT for streaming. Certainly enough clips around to get the gist of the arrangement.
If I had to pick one story from the series that is both sobering and hilarious--plus totally politically incorrect, "Rumpole and the Tap End" is the epitome of a Rumpole short story and BBC episode.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 10:52 AM (WDjG6)
Seven seasons are on Prime but you have to subscribe to PBS Masterpiece or BritBox to see them.
I'm seeing several episodes with a quick search on YT, so I'll watch one after Witness for the Prosecution is finished.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 29, 2025 11:10 AM (6ydKt)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 29, 2025 11:12 AM (ULPxl)
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Spent most of yesterday brooding about this. Now wondering if I should care .
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 29, 2025 11:00 AM (t/2Uw)
No. That was rude of her.
Wonder no more.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2025 11:12 AM (BI5O2)
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SpeakingOf,
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Try this episode.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsS_-VF4874
Rumpole and the Age of Miracles.
Rumpole is representing a client in Ecclesiastical Court to prevent the priest from being defrocked.
Posted by: whig at November 29, 2025 11:13 AM (WDjG6)
407
Fun trivia - Elsa Lanchester, who plays Laughton’s nurse, was his wife at the time, and until he died in 1962.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Each who bearded for the other.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 11:13 AM (Wt3Iw)
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Thanks udup and YD.
You are both right. This is not the first time. I am a,ways surprised when it happens kind of out of the blue. I am liking more and more sending something to the party. Maybe Risk for the older kids and Monopoly Jr for the younger ones. Maybe some chocolate. This kind of bypasses the sister who cut me off because party is at othr sister's house. I do not live close so,have never attended one of these with my sister's grandkids.
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95. He lived with his wife (described by neighbors as hijab-wearing) and five children, the oldest around 14. Some reports mention two nephews also in the household. He has a brother in the U.S.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
He's only 29. Oldest kid is 14 & there's also two "nephews?"
Sounds like one is a brother, and then the usual smuggle in my kids and we'll join you later & pick them up.
Almost like an Omar style family.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day. at November 29, 2025 11:31 AM (NFX2v)
410Saying that the Iroquois League was a taproot of the American system is like saying highland Bolivian tribesmen invented Coca-Cola.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 29, 2025 11:08 AM (BI5O2)
There is a train of thought that the Northern European liberal thought came in part from the need to reconsider the traditional political order in the 1500's against the more egalitarian Indian societies encountered during the Age of Discovery and the political instability of the traditional kingships, however that ignores the Italian states' and the Scandinavian and German states' political history of Things, democracies, Circles, and clan consensus building.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 11:35 AM (rbvCR)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 29, 2025 11:51 AM (L/fGl)
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"...wars are often at their worst when the decision is no longer in doubt, and the defeated side has nothing but pure anger and despair to fuel them..."
That's a good description of the enemy of our souls; the "father of lies" here on earth to "rob, kill and destroy" everyone and everything he can, until G-d decides that the time has come for judgment.
"The Court was seated, and the Books were opened." Daniel 7:10 and Revelation 20:12
Posted by: ju at November 29, 2025 12:36 PM (EgpoY)
Posted by: Nazdar at November 29, 2025 12:39 PM (NcvvS)
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Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025 08:58 AM (77rzZ
Now, Bulg
We've discussed this before. 🙂. As I understand it , they are not praying to Saints. They are asking for their intercession , in the same as you would ask for friends to intercede with God for you. Yes, we can go directly to God, but I regularly ask people to pray for things for me or my family and Saints are holy people . Yesterday , I asked for St. Fiacre to pray to God for a job for my son. St Fiacre was an Irish monk quite interested in plants and my son has partial Irish background. There is a hymn which says "Friends on earth and friends in heaven. If you're asking for Saints intercession I don't think God minds.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 02:24 PM (IHhgE)
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not sure how far spread they are, but 'round here dark matter is my favorite roaster. mostly central american.
Posted by: cmeat at November 30, 2025 02:28 PM (R11M+)
To be fair, he made the right call, making Nvidia the most valuable company in the world, and that is his job. However, he is pushing his staff to use more AI precisely because if it works he won't need them.
I don't believe it will work, but he has to claim to believe it, because that is also his job. So one way or the other, he is lying.
It has a 9" OLED display with a resolution of 2400x1504 at 165Hz, which is not drastically more than (for example) the Switch 2's 7.9" 1920x1080 120Hz screen.
But it also has an AMD Ryzen AI Max+ 395, the same CPU powering the recent raft of $2000 home AI computers. 16 CPU cores and 40 graphics cores, packed into a handheld.
The only drawback to smoothening the sharp edges of the M3 MacBook Air is that the polished area is prone to oxidation, but nothing like a simple wiping job will do the trick.
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 04:10 AM (RuTUS)
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Quantum computing may be like fusion,
arriving any year now. I hear that it will break all encryption. Will that be a fine new world.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 29, 2025 04:12 AM (sM4Un)
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Watched some YT videos about all the data centers being built around NoVA and other parts of the county. Seems that when the bubble bursts, there is going to be a lot of empty buildings and open lots with nothing on it.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 29, 2025 04:14 AM (v9vY1)
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Nice thing about going to relatives home for Thanksgiving is not having to deal with a ton of leftovers. Tom and Barb have 3 refrigerators and they were full. Time to send food to the starving children in Africa like we we told to do when I was growing up. Since they don't have SNAP or other government handouts like Americans do.
Posted by: Colin at November 29, 2025 04:14 AM (wlQdF)
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I have a relative who works for IBM and he says Quantum computing is further along than we think. IBM's effort kind of fly's under the radar, so you don't hear much about it.
Posted by: Colin at November 29, 2025 04:19 AM (wlQdF)
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"21% of the "peer reviews" were entirely AI-generated, and 50% showed significant AI use."
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These reviewers are setting a fine example for kids in school -- who get a lot of help from AI on their homework.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 29, 2025 04:19 AM (n+Hql)
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 04:24 AM (Ia/+0)
20 Those damned Russians shouldn't be drinking vodka on the launch pad. Or maybe the problem was they weren't drinking enough, who knows?
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 29, 2025 04:27 AM (w6EFb)
21 Cab Calloway - Minnie the Moocher
release date: 1931 (Wikipedia entry for the song)
1930 is the date given under the Wikipedia entry for Cab Calloway
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 04:28 AM (RuTUS)
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>>>1930 is the date given under the Wikipedia entry for Cab Calloway
Nah, I misread it.
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 04:29 AM (RuTUS)
23
Example of bad AI guidance: i need a new electric cord for the starter on my snow blower. The manufacturer specifies a cord no longer than ten feet using twelve or fourteen gauge wire. Risk of burning up the starter motor (high amperage) with a long cord.
AI says I can use sixteen gauge (thinner) wire with an extension cord up to one hundred feet.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 29, 2025 04:30 AM (bzCQS)
24
Elissa Slotkin seems like the very worst sort of snippy, scolding ex-wife.
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 04:37 AM (RuTUS)
Gelsinger believes it may take as little as two.
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It'll happen as soon as the right people are in charge.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 29, 2025 04:44 AM (s0JqF)
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@23 The burning risk would not be to the motor, but to the extension cord. Too much amperage would cause overheating of the wire. If you need more than ten feet, you use heavier wire and connectors.
"Minnie The Moocher" is based on an earlier drug song, "Willie The Weeper," which is in the more-or-less folk song collection The American Song Bag by Carl Sandburg. Sandburg was known for songs before he was a poet.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 29, 2025 04:45 AM (zdLoL)
27 There is a charter high school here focused on the performing arts named for Cab Calloway, which is somewhat odd as he had no familial connection to this area.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at November 29, 2025 04:46 AM (xG4kz)
28 I attended a performance of Cab Calloway and his orchestra when I lived in Richmond, VA ('88 to '92).
I can't say that I was aware of his role in our culture when we went to it, but it was a fine performance to have experienced.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at November 29, 2025 04:51 AM (xG4kz)
Posted by: Just Wondering at November 29, 2025 04:56 AM (XQo4F)
30
I got new fast internet, HD TV channels but can't get channel I probably watched the most, TCM
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 04:57 AM (Ia/+0)
31 There can be very much risk of motor damage due to too small a cord. It's voltage drop. The motor can't get enough voltage to get properly up to speed and torque, and just gets bogged down in a high current, low voltage regime.
In that regime, the efficiency is much lower and there is more heating of the windings. Energy is going to heat rather than mechanical energy.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 29, 2025 04:58 AM (w6EFb)
32
G'morning, from a rather cold, 34 degree Summerville.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 29, 2025 04:58 AM (a1415)
33 Peer review getting flooded with AI-generated critiques would be yet another black mark against the myth that peer review, in and of itself, is the sine qua non of validating submissions to published journals.
Include the name(s) of the actual peer reviewers in the end notes of every academic paper, I say. Show how biased and corrupt the whole edifice is.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at November 29, 2025 04:59 AM (xG4kz)
34
In terms of track record for making good bets on imminent technology, I'm favoring Huang. Gelsinger is still smouldering from the dumpster fire Intel continue to become when he came back to the company to run it. Much of the problems were beyond his control and started in the years he was away from the company but taking the CEO role means taking the blame for failed turnarounds. Gelsinger may have been better off staying retired from Intel and just being remembered as a major contributor to the 80386 design that secured Intel the dominant position in CPUs for decades.
Posted by: Epobirs at November 29, 2025 05:00 AM (/0z9K)
So put AI over in the corner and let it commune with the dust bunnies. No point in allowing it to wreck more than it already has.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at November 29, 2025 05:02 AM (vFbHf)
36 Sentient dust bunnies. One wonders whether they would be as bothered by how prevalent they can become if not tended to from time to time.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at November 29, 2025 05:05 AM (xG4kz)
37
I had heard Cab Calloway sing "Minnie the Moocher" before. I hadn't seen him perform it . He obviously could dance as well . Very energetic man. I enjoyed the selection. Thanks, Pixy.
Posted by: FenelonSpije at November 29, 2025 05:07 AM (ix8EF)
38
So AirBus 320's can drop thousands of feet mid-flight when exposed to a solar storm?
To be honest, I didn't see that one coming.
https://tinyurl.com/rnms2r8m
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 29, 2025 05:07 AM (a1415)
If you watch the classic 'Blues Brothers' comedy, Cab Calloway performs Minnie the Moocher' in that movie.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 29, 2025 05:09 AM (a1415)
41
>> So AirBus 320's can drop thousands of feet mid-flight when exposed to a solar storm?
I just saw that earlier. They say they have a software fix, prompting me to wonder just how software can protect the hardware from high energy radiation.....
The only thing I can think of is the software is modified to notice when the data corruption is occurring and do something based on that.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 29, 2025 05:09 AM (w6EFb)
42
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling
That's hilarious. It does look like Dutch .No. I am never a good typist and certainly not after four hours of sleep😉
Posted by: FenelonSpije at November 29, 2025 05:12 AM (ix8EF)
Posted by: AltonJackson at November 29, 2025 05:13 AM (tljrc)
44 The Nicholas Brothers' tap dance scene from the movie "Stormy Weather" (1943). Cab Calloway and his orchestra performing "Jumpin' Jive".
https://youtu.be/IoMbeDhG9fU
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at November 29, 2025 05:17 AM (xG4kz)
45
A capella men's group from Uganda sings lovely version of a well known hymn, "It is well with my soul.":
https://tinyurl.com/4fhkdcru
Posted by: FenelonSpije at November 29, 2025 05:17 AM (ix8EF)
46
When it comes to crime, Baltimore is once again over-performing. And the number of thefts is staggering.
https://tinyurl.com/wj5dxh7e
The article jumps back and forth between per-capita and raw numbers, which tends to hide the true scope of the activity.
But to put Baltimore Metro and Chicago Metro in context, Chicago has over 9 million people in the metro area.
Baltimore has about 2.3 million.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 29, 2025 05:22 AM (a1415)
47
"Ex-Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger says quantum computing will pop the AI bubble."
While quickly inflating its own bubble for investors to rush towards in order to sustain the unrealistic future earnings expectations going on right now.
Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at November 29, 2025 05:25 AM (O7YUW)
48
Man writes on God's sufficient grace. 2nd Corinthians 12::2-10:
https://tinyurl.com/ypexuswh
Posted by: FenelonSpije at November 29, 2025 05:29 AM (PFs9e)
49
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at November 29, 2025 05:17 AM (xG4kz)
Thanks; I enjoyed that.
Posted by: FenelonSpije at November 29, 2025 05:31 AM (PFs9e)
50 15 Nice thing about going to relatives home for Thanksgiving is not having to deal with a ton of leftovers. Tom and Barb have 3 refrigerators and they were full. Time to send food to the starving children in Africa like we we told to do when I was growing up. Since they don't have SNAP or other government handouts like Americans do.
Posted by: Colin at November 29, 2025 04:14 AM (wlQdF)
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Donations will be secured by governments there for proper distribution, i.e. withheld from other tribes and political parties. and sold on the black market. Customary 'processing fees' for routine government functions will still be in effect; "Your contributions keep us motivated."
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 29, 2025 05:32 AM (t1fZA)
51
The DC murderer was living in a $2000 a month apartment, no job, feeding wife and 5 kids, and a big video gamer
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 05:35 AM (Ia/+0)
52 Stephen L. Miller
@redsteeze
9h
Something tells me if like Senator Sarah Palin used to be a CIA intelligence spook, and then a CIA trained Ghost Squad Afghani National became activated because she said National Guard troops might start shooting people in the streets, and then he acted on that, by shooting two US service members, killing one,
Our media would not be in closed down protector mode at all costs like they're doing with Elissa Slotkin right now.
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 05:35 AM (RuTUS)
53
Skip, is the new fast Internet affecting your AoSHq experience? My phone company is trying to sell me an upgrade.
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 05:37 AM (RuTUS)
54The DC murderer was living in a $2000 a month apartment, no job, feeding wife and 5 kids, and a big video gamer
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 05:35 AM (Ia/+0)
No job? Dude, collecting government benefits is hard work, yo.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 29, 2025 05:41 AM (ExV1e)
55
This is just to officially change the spelling of my nic, so they I don't like I need to go out and get one of those Dutch cookies - a stroopwaffle . 😉
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 05:42 AM (PFs9e)
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 29, 2025 05:43 AM (XQo4F)
57
Somebody will correct Stephen Millet. If they haven't yet done so.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 05:46 AM (PFs9e)
58
56 When was Sarah Palin a senator?
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 29, 2025 05:43 AM (XQo4F)
I think that redsteeze's "if" is carrying a lot of weight, there.
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 05:47 AM (RuTUS)
59
I think the internet is noticeable faster
As said tv is better but got screwed as the cable box set goes straight to a HD channel if it doesn't have a HD channel. So can't go to old TCM as there is a HD I can't get
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 05:48 AM (Ia/+0)
60 56 When was Sarah Palin a senator?
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 29, 2025 05:43 AM (XQo4F)
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Hypothetical.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 29, 2025 05:48 AM (HLgI3)
61
I assume Stephen Miller is speaking hypothetically (given that he's posing a hypothetical). In other words, he knows Palin was never a senator; he's using her as a hypothetical example because of the way she was treated for her targeting /crosshairs PAC map. The "if she was/had been a senator" is implied. That's how ai read it anyway.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 29, 2025 05:52 AM (9FEtL)
62
https://tinyurl.com/4xczc43u
Powerline week in pictures
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 05:53 AM (Ia/+0)
1) The presence of National Guard troops has objectively reduced violent crime in D.C. so it’s not performative.
2) Even if you disagree with the policy, that is clearly not the reason for yesterday’s attack. Someone committed to carrying out such an attack would have found a target regardless if the national guard was deployed or not. In fact, their presence likely reduced the amount of harm this particular attacker did as others were able to heroically respond almost immediately.
(in response to an Atlantic article)
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 06:05 AM (RuTUS)
The botched withdrawal from Afghanistan created a crisis and the government's answer to that crisis was to grant a lot of visas without proper vetting.
We continue to pay a steep price for the way that withdrawal was executed and no one in the gov't was ever held responsible.
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 06:10 AM (RuTUS)
69
So this Jihadist one day ups and crosses the country, acquires a handgun and plots to kill a couple military people all.on some snap judgement.
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 06:13 AM (Ia/+0)
70
The private who loses a rifle gets in more trouble than a general who loses a war.
Posted by: Written on a Pentagon bathroom stall at November 29, 2025 06:14 AM (XQo4F)
71
Sarah Hoyt memes - https://tinyurl.com/5n6p3zuv+
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 29, 2025 06:15 AM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 29, 2025 06:19 AM (0cOaq)
74
Our AIT unit had a field exercise at FT Dix and a rifle was stolen right out of a tent. New Jersey, I guess. A private’s rifle, natch. Thing was, he and an NCO had somehow got their rifles swapped. Serial numbers matter. The NCO didn’t lose “his” rifle, but that was the one that was stolen.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 29, 2025 06:27 AM (X3owK)
75
Any man what smoothens after lights out spends a night in the box.
Posted by: Carr, the Floorwalker at November 29, 2025 06:32 AM (PiwSw)
76
My last computer had a fit and decided to didn't like to do punctuation . The one I have right is an ASUS . I do not like it and it is incredibly slow.
Therefore, I am using my phone.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 06:34 AM (GLmO1)
7724 Elissa Slotkin seems like the very worst sort of snippy, scolding ex-wife.
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 04:37 AM (RuTUS)
OK, Slotkin, Katie Porter... We need a third for our Dating Game reboot.
Posted by: Amazon Prime at November 29, 2025 06:36 AM (PiwSw)
78
OK, Slotkin, Katie Porter... We need a third for our Dating Game reboot.
Posted by: Amazon Prime at November 29, 2025 06:36 AM (PiwSw)
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Aftyn Behn
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 29, 2025 06:38 AM (0cOaq)
79
Two people who met in the hospital after waking up from comas are getting married :
https://tinyurl.com/y82apupw
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 06:38 AM (GLmO1)
80
OK, Slotkin, Katie Porter... We need a third for our Dating Game reboot.
Posted by: Amazon Prime at November 29, 2025 06:36 AM (PiwSw)
Aftyn Behn
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 29, 2025 06:40 AM (12gd1)
81
74 Our AIT unit had a field exercise at FT Dix and a rifle was stolen right out of a tent. New Jersey, I guess. A private’s rifle, natch. Thing was, he and an NCO had somehow got their rifles swapped. Serial numbers matter. The NCO didn’t lose “his” rifle, but that was the one that was stolen.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 29, 2025 06:27 AM (X3owK)
And then what happened?
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 06:42 AM (RuTUS)
82
78 OK, Slotkin, Katie Porter... We need a third for our Dating Game reboot.
Posted by: Amazon Prime at November 29, 2025 06:36 AM (PiwSw)
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Aftyn Behn
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 29, 2025 06:38 AM (0cOaq)
Ooh, nice!
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 06:43 AM (RuTUS)
83
Midwest Chick's Saturday memes - https://tinyurl.com/yc7488rz+
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 29, 2025 06:43 AM (ExV1e)
84
82 78 OK, Slotkin, Katie Porter... We need a third for our Dating Game reboot.
Posted by: Amazon Prime at November 29, 2025 06:36 AM (PiwSw)
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Aftyn Behn
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 29, 2025 06:38 AM (0cOaq)
Ooh, nice!
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 06:43 AM (RuTUS)
And the one who used her comb to eat a salad because a staff member hadn't provided her an eating utensil.
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 06:45 AM (RuTUS)
It was watching an NCOs career go up in smoke in real time. We all lined up to have our serial numbers verified. Sarge was mortified. We did the performative thing busting through the woods looking for it for a day or two, but everyone knew it was stolen.
I don’t know what ever happened to them or their careers.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 29, 2025 06:49 AM (X3owK)
86
I have Verizon 100Mb internet. Two tv’s and 6 phones going on Thanksgiving with no issues. 80$/month
Upgrade my ass.
Posted by: Accomack at November 29, 2025 06:51 AM (IG7T0)
LB
@beyondreasdoubt
Nov 27
JFC I am so sick of these fucking lunatics
No honey, they never should have been shot and killed by an illegal who obviously hates this country and never should have been here to begin with
Jane Mayer
@JaneMayerNYer
Nov 26
This is so tragic, so unnecessary, these poor guardsmen should never have been deployed. I live in DC and watched as they had virtually nothing to do but pick up trash. It was for political show and at what a cost.
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 06:54 AM (RuTUS)
88
84 82 78 OK, Slotkin, Katie Porter... We need a third for our Dating Game reboot.
Posted by: Amazon Prime at November 29, 2025 06:36 AM (PiwSw)
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Aftyn Behn
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 29, 2025 06:38 AM (0cOaq)
Ooh, nice!
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 06:43 AM (RuTUS)
And the one who used her comb to eat a salad because a staff member hadn't provided her an eating utensil.
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 06:45 AM (RuTUS)
= Amy Klobuchar
They're all so forgettable.
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 06:55 AM (RuTUS)
89
I think Trump genuinely cares about people , so I am sure he called the family of the young woman NG member who died to express his condolences. as well as the other young man who is still in the hospital. (?)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 06:55 AM (rZCVI)
It was watching an NCOs career go up in smoke in real time. We all lined up to have our serial numbers verified. Sarge was mortified. We did the performative thing busting through the woods looking for it for a day or two, but everyone knew it was stolen.
I don’t know what ever happened to them or their careers.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 29, 2025 06:49 AM (X3owK)
Rules is rules.
Good story.
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 06:57 AM (RuTUS)
91
Good morning! Reading about the Airbus/Thales buffoonery. It seems that solar flares are the new glowbull warmening...
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 29, 2025 06:58 AM (3Ope8)
92
Evening and morning to the Saturday toilers and early-to-risers! 'Tis the third of a four-day weekend (for some). Oddly, I slept over seven hours last night. Somebody knocked lightly, like a bump, on the front door at about four am; I don't think I dreamed it, because I was awake enough to see Stirling react to it too. When it gets light in a few minutes I'll go out and see if somebody stuck a note on my door. (It wouldn't be the management of this dump. They wouldn't be working on a weekend, let alone at four am.)
smoothen
verb [with object] mainly Indian English 1 give (something) a flat, regular surface or appearance
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025
And that, I think, answers the question in our minds.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 29, 2025 07:00 AM (wzUl9)
93
I’ve often wondered how it worked out. Sarge kept his rifle in his sleeping bag with him. He secured the weapon as best as possible, I guess. Except, it wasn’t his assigned weapon. End of story probably, he lost his rifle. Private snuffly had his rifle stolen, except it really wasn’t.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 29, 2025 07:03 AM (dMvru)
9478 OK, Slotkin, Katie Porter... We need a third for our Dating Game reboot.
Posted by: Amazon Prime at November 29, 2025 06:36 AM (PiwSw)
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Aftyn Behn
Posted by: Captain Obvious,
Governor CIA Barbie of VA. Spanberger or whatever that color revolution enthusiast name is. Can't wait till AG Khmer Rouge starts throwing his weight around.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at November 29, 2025 07:03 AM (sAmhv)
95
78 OK, Slotkin, Katie Porter... We need a third for our Dating Game reboot.
Posted by: Amazon Prime at November 29, 2025 06:36 AM (PiwSw)
Your post should be a Post of the Week candidate! Endless fun.
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 07:08 AM (RuTUS)
Business Insider
https://www.businessinsider.com › Careers
5 days ago — The Florida Congresswoman said she has been ridiculed for her ringlets, but takes pride in her curly hair.
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 07:15 AM (RuTUS)
105 The face of erectile dysfunction, Rosa DeLauro!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at November 29, 2025 07:15 AM (xG4kz)
106
Alex from Linus Tech Tips did their laptop reviews on Short Circuit for years. He would always check the sharpness of the corners and I know he sanded down the edges on a few of them himself when they were too sharp because he was a writer for the channel and was tired of getting scratched up writing scripts.
He, as well as Jake. Both left LTT earlier this year and started their own channels.
Alex has one, Zip Tie Tuning, about cars/EVs and another Zip Tie Tech where he does reviews and builds crazy stuff like he did at LTT.
Jacob, who was LTTs networking guru, has a channel called Jakkuh where he does some reviews and network/data builds.
They were both some of the best hosts on LTT channels and I was glad they both kept going on their own.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 29, 2025 07:16 AM (6ydKt)
107
82 78 OK, Slotkin, Katie Porter... We need a third for our Dating Game reboot.
Posted by: Amazon Prime at November 29, 2025 06:36 AM (PiwSw)
That bald headed luggage thief little faggot Sam Brinton.
Don't judge.
Posted by: Ed Buck, killer fag at November 29, 2025 07:16 AM (s0upz)
108
Ace probably can't publish a story on these AWFLs, so it's up to us.
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 07:16 AM (RuTUS)
109
“ I will give thanks to the Lord because of his righteousness; I will sing the praises of the name of the Lord Most High.”
Psalm 7:17
Posted by: Marcus T at November 29, 2025 07:16 AM (63An5)
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 07:17 AM (RuTUS)
111
I don’t know what ever happened to them or their careers.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 29, 2025 06:49 AM (X3owK)
Some are mathematicians
Some are carpenters' wives
Don't know how it all got started
I don't know what they're doing with their lives
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 07:20 AM (3U2FH)
112
94 Governor CIA Barbie of VA. Spanberger or whatever that color revolution enthusiast name is. Can't wait till AG Khmer Rouge starts throwing his weight around.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at November 29, 2025 07:03 AM (sAmhv)
Spanberger = Abigail Spanberger, Governor-elect of VA
AG Khmer Rouge = Jay Jones, Attorney General-elect of VA
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 07:23 AM (RuTUS)
Jay Jones (Facebook)
1d
What happened in Washington yesterday is heartbreaking. The senseless act of violence — the shooting of two National Guard members while serving their country — is devastating. The holiday season is meant to be a time of peace, and this attack has no place in our nation. Mavis and I are holding them and their families close in our hearts.
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 07:25 AM (RuTUS)
Abigail Spanberger
@SpanbergerForVA
I am heartbroken over the passing of U.S. Army Spc. Sarah Beckstrom, who was senselessly murdered just before the holidays.
Adam and I are praying for her family, friends, and loved ones as they face this incomprehensible loss — and we continue to pray for the full recovery of U.S. Air Force Staff Sgt. Andrew Wolfe.
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 07:28 AM (RuTUS)
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 07:29 AM (RuTUS)
118
Nothing was on my door, so I have no idea what the "thump" this morning was about. 54 F., almost no wind, humidity down. Maybe I'll go wash the car this morning; it needs it.
What do you have planned for today?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 29, 2025 07:34 AM (wzUl9)
119
Haven't been able to get up today's American Thinker yet
Anyone else see today's?
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 07:36 AM (Ia/+0)
120 So I drifted down to New Orleans
Where I lucky was to be employed
Working for a while on a fishing boat
Right outside of Delacroix
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 07:38 AM (RuTUS)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 29, 2025 07:47 AM (u82oZ)
127
For me, drastic action means deporting every Muslim from Western nations and banning them. Short of that, yes, Islam will kill America and Western civilization in general.
Elon Musk @elonmusk
Without drastic action, they will succeed in killing America
Ron DeSantis @RonDeSantis
What are we doing to ourselves?
Eyal Yakoby @EYakoby
In the middle of Dearborn, Michigan an entire crowd chants “Death to America.”
Rashida Tlaib, when asked, refused to condemn it.
X video: https://bit.ly/4p1ofx4
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 07:49 AM (P5BPp)
128
at genius.com, next to the Dylan lyrics for Tangled up in Blue:
You might also like
My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys
Taylor Swift
Down Bad
Taylor Swift
thanK you aIMee
Taylor Swift
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 07:51 AM (RuTUS)
129
“We” are doing no such thing. This is an engineered process from our …. so-called leaders
Posted by: Common Tater at November 29, 2025 07:52 AM (dgu/T)
130
What's the difference between a chainsaw and an Airbus?
Posted by: pawn at November 29, 2025 07:52 AM (sPsWv)
I don't like Jensen's faux leather Members' Only jacket which hasn't been cool since 1982.
Get a new jacket, bro.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 29, 2025 07:58 AM (A0sqA)
138
Pinned Tweet
Will Chamberlain
@willchamberlain
Nov 27
The life of a single National Guardsman is more important than the right of the entire population of Afghan refugees to remain in the United States
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 07:58 AM (RuTUS)
139
Because a certain portion of population wants no borders Workers and slackers of the world unite and all believes that their slaves will provide for all their needs and not just kill them.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 29, 2025 07:59 AM (ExV1e)
140I don't like Jensen's faux leather Members' Only jacket which hasn't been cool since 1982.
Get a new jacket, bro.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 29, 2025 07:58 AM (A0sqA)
One of the best things about being a billionaire is not having to give a damn what anyone thinks about how you dress.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 29, 2025 08:00 AM (ExV1e)
141I'm so old I can remember being told we have to fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 29, 2025 07:54 AM
Which made sense... until the powers that be started importing them here.
Ironically, nation building is a four-letter word to some, but that would be better than bringing Muslims and Third Worlders into Western nations.
Imagine instead of spending millions upon millions to accommodate them moving to Western nations, that money was spent to improve the state of the other nations and they stayed there.
But the time for that option has past. These people have shown they hate us and don't deserve any of the blood or treasure from Western nations. They all should be sent back and every Western nation cuts them off until they civilize themselves.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 08:00 AM (P5BPp)
142
Fox News
@FoxNews
19h
WATCH: Firefighters and first responders line the streets of Washington, DC for the dignified transfer of National Guard member Sarah Beckstrom, who was killed in the ambush attack near the White House.
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 08:01 AM (RuTUS)
143This is so tragic, so unnecessary, these poor guardsmen should never have been deployed. I live in DC and watched as they had virtually nothing to do but pick up trash. It was for political show and at what a cost.
In other words, their presence brought down crime so much in your neighborhood that to keep busy they were cleaning up the trash you throw around.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 08:02 AM (a4flb)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 29, 2025 08:02 AM (GhIJO)
145
A article on the Auto-Pen administration at American Thinker
It's going to be a big issue soon enough
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 08:04 AM (Ia/+0)
146Imagine instead of spending millions upon millions to accommodate them moving to Western nations, that money was spent to improve the state of the other nations and they stayed there.
Explain to me in simple words, why I am financially and morally responsible to sacrifice my time and money to artificially raise the living standards of every shit-hole heathen around the globe to a level that is satisfactory of the Ruling Class in Babylon DC?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 08:05 AM (a4flb)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 29, 2025 08:05 AM (wzUl9)
148
I am gratified these …. people… show us who they are. Totally insane lunatics to be sure, but at least normal decent peaceable Americans know what they are up against. The leftists have their marching orders, and cannot deviate from the script, the narrative. It is very sobering to watch, because driving people crazy is actually part of the plan, the process. They have it down to a science.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 29, 2025 08:07 AM (dgu/T)
The fix is probably double buffering the dynamic memory and using checksums for integrity or could be a complete system reboot of one flight computer on the fly.
I could be wrong.
I have a long time friend that does flight software and stuff like this is normally baked into the cake. Surprised the developers left this scenario out.
I'll ask him about this specifically but he and I have had long discussions of robustness in high radiation environments.
That is a bit frightening but Airbus has had issues in the past with glitch software when thing are not nominal.
Posted by: pawn at November 29, 2025 08:09 AM (sPsWv)
151Imagine instead of spending millions upon millions to accommodate them moving to Western nations, that money was spent to improve the state of the other nations and they stayed there.
Explain to me in simple words, why I am financially and morally responsible to sacrifice my time and money to artificially raise the living standards of every shit-hole heathen around the globe to a level that is satisfactory of the Ruling Class in Babylon DC?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 29, 2025 08:05 AM
You/we are not.
My point was if there was an A or B choice 24 years ago on how to spend that money, the powers that be chose incorrectly.
And now every sane person in Western civilization realizes that these people hate us and are not worthy of any of our blood or treasure. The answer now is deport and ban. Every single one of them. Period.
Time to go back when the only money sent to these countries was the pennies saved by elementary school children in those little milk carton banks.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 29, 2025 08:26 AM (P5BPp)
152
LOL about the Soyuz, although it reminds me of the first time Elon launched Starship/Superheavy. The thrust was so enormous it converted the launch pad into flying lumps of concrete, one of which wrecked a car in a carpark half a kilometre away.
Posted by: Bruce of Newcastle at November 29, 2025 08:13 PM (XBBgc)
Deep In The Heart Of The ONT
Happy Friday everyone! Here's a fun fact I learned this week: Google search AI was programmed by dogs.
X unveiled a new feature where you can see where people are posting from, and lo and behold, millions of "regular Americans" were posting from abroad.
Shopping
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 28, 2025 09:55 PM (uDDWT)
6
Buffalo Bore 404 Jeffery Ammo 375 Grain Cutting Edge Raptor Hollow Point, $18.00 per round.
Hey, Yo, good evening everyone.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 28, 2025 09:57 PM (Zz+7G)
7
I know, I used "tryptophan coma" as an excuse last Thanksgiving, but I am sure I could get a lawyer to argue that a coma and a topper are not the same thing if I pay him enough, so this does count as an original excuse. Besides, tryptophan is topical at the moment.
Jist cut me some slack, please.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 09:58 PM (IxQNO)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 28, 2025 10:00 PM (3k5hk)
12
I read about Vlad Tepes (Dracula) in junior high school. He impaled over 100,000 Turks. I thought they just ran a pole through them, I didn't realize they actually went up the jaxie. Wow!
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at November 28, 2025 10:00 PM (cxFcK)
Posted by: Tonypete at November 28, 2025 10:02 PM (cYBz/)
18
That "Let Her Eat Steak" is probably enough food that the water wouldn't have had to bother with the wafer-thin after dinner mint to finish off Mr..Creosote.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 10:02 PM (IxQNO)
19
Is there ANY enviro Green project, that has not ended up being BAD for the environment?
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 28, 2025 10:01 PM (mP0Kj)
If they bring back heavy paper grocery bags, more power to them.
They'll be paper thin.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 28, 2025 10:03 PM (bss/y)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 28, 2025 10:03 PM (bss/y)
21
Franklin strikes me as the Lesley Nielsen of Founding Fathers, bet that dude traveled with whatever passed for a whoopi cushion of his day.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 28, 2025 10:03 PM (XV/Pl)
22
I think I got 38. Never been to Oregon, Cleveland and a few others. But I'm proud of the fact I've never set foot in DC, a city completely built on theft.
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at November 28, 2025 10:03 PM (cxFcK)
23
13 I read about Vlad Tepes (Dracula) in junior high school. He impaled over 100,000 Turks. I thought they just ran a pole through them, I didn't realize they actually went up the jaxie. Wow!
Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at November 28, 2025 10:00 PM (cxFcK)
Vlad Tepes, the 'original' vampire... was somehow a member of the Pope Sanctioned Order of the Dragon. An order of Knights created by the King of Hungary, Blessed by the Pope, to fight against the Saracen invasion of Europe.
So, yeah... Catholic Church Blessed Vampire... not sure how that works.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 28, 2025 10:03 PM (mP0Kj)
24
Evening, WD, and ONT Horde. I counted 19 cities, maybe could add a couple more if passing through on the freeway counts.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2025 10:04 PM (npFr7)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 28, 2025 10:04 PM (v9vY1)
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22 Franklin strikes me as the Lesley Nielsen of Founding Fathers, bet that dude traveled with whatever passed for a whoopi cushion of his day.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 28, 2025 10:03 PM (XV/Pl)
When he was Ambassador to France, he would walk around Naked, taking 'Air Baths'.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 28, 2025 10:05 PM (mP0Kj)
27
You NEVER drag them feet first.
If you do, they'll fill up with sand.
Posted by: rickb223
Reason #1 why sex on the beach is a bad idea. Add in salt water and it's a bad day for everyone.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 28, 2025 10:05 PM (cYBz/)
28
Pretty sure that truck driver didn't secure his load. He won't make that mistake again.
Posted by: huerfano at November 28, 2025 10:05 PM (98kQX)
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at November 28, 2025 10:10 PM (pIfcn)
41
I’m missing Tulsa.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 28, 2025 09:55 PM (uDDWT)
First time that's ever been said.
Posted by: Dr. T at November 28, 2025 10:11 PM (jGGMD)
42
I’m missing Tulsa.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 28, 2025 09:55 PM (uDDWT)
It's right there where you left it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2025 10:11 PM (npFr7)
43
20 cities not counting airport. None would I desire to see again.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 28, 2025 10:11 PM (ys6FW)
44
I counted 35 cities that I’ve visited. I didn't count only airport or freeway visits. I love a good road trip. On one right now. Heading home from the Midwest early to avoid the severe weather.
Posted by: QED Texan Grandpa-to-be at November 28, 2025 10:12 PM (sSwOV)
45
30 You rub it on your skin?
Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2025 10:05 PM (rbvCR)
Maybe I should have put it in the basket.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 10:13 PM (IxQNO)
46
If they bring back heavy paper grocery bags, more power to them.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 28, 2025 10:03 PM (bss/y)
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Cats everywhere will rejoice!
Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at November 28, 2025 10:17 PM (47diA)
57
Tulsa’s got a couple big Indian Resort/Casinos nearby. Only reason to go there.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2025 10:18 PM (3U2FH)
58
54 51 F*cking A. Have not been to Honolulu.
Posted by: RI Red at November 28, 2025 10:13 PM (6jy2V)
Lived there... but that was ... damn... over 35 years ago, sure it's changed since.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 28, 2025 10:15 PM (mP0Kj)
Only thing I wanted to see in Hawaii was Pearl Harbor. But now that WD has set up a challenge, well, you know …
Posted by: RI Red at November 28, 2025 10:18 PM (6jy2V)
59
It's right there where you left it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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That's what you say to the Japanese tourists, when they ask you "Where is the USS Arizona memorial?"
(If you're an a-hole)
Posted by: JQ at November 28, 2025 10:19 PM (rdVOm)
60
I hauled that model H500 Zenith Transoceanic up to the kitchen, and set on the shelf by the kitchen window. It was pulling in stations on all the shortwave bands, and the dial calibrations seems pretty good. WWV was where it ought to be on the dial on several bands.
I must say the previous 8G model has a much more readable dial on it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2025 10:19 PM (npFr7)
61
31 we are still growing trees, but aint still growing Dinosaurs.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 28, 2025 10:06 PM
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Hold my beer.
Posted by: John Hammond at November 28, 2025 10:19 PM (cCn4/)
62
I had always heard that Jefferson was the one to write the Declaration pretty much becaise the committe left the scut work to the nerd. Adams did say Jefferson was a better writer than he was, but he was still the low man on the totem pole and got stuck with chores while the others went out to party. (Okay, Adams didn't exactly party, but he had better things to do than waste his time dipping a quill into an inkwell.)
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 10:20 PM (IxQNO)
63t's right there where you left it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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That's what you say to the Japanese tourists, when they ask you "Where is the USS Arizona memorial?"
(If you're an a-hole)
*Takes notes.*
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at November 28, 2025 10:20 PM (lUFok)
64Tulsa’s got a couple big Indian Resort/Casinos nearby. Only reason to go there.
Wannemacher gun show.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 28, 2025 10:20 PM (3nLb4)
65
Jefferson had already done a similar document for the Virginia House of Burgesses, and he was a good writer.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2025 10:22 PM (rbvCR)
66
Tulsa’s got a couple big Indian Resort/Casinos nearby. Only reason to go there.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2025 10:18 PM (3U2FH)
It's got time to live on:
https://youtu.be/qLZEVnjZS2s
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2025 10:22 PM (npFr7)
67
20 Is there ANY enviro Green project, that has not ended up being BAD for the environment?
Posted by: Romeo13
When food was carried in gunny sacks, gunnies were hunted to extinction.
Posted by: Green Behind The Gills at November 28, 2025 10:22 PM (oftw2)
68
In the last century, the family went on a Summer trip in a large RV, and we visited every state in the continental US. So I'm pretty sure I've been to most of those cities.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 28, 2025 10:23 PM (CHHv1)
69
Pearlridge shopping center, in Aiea, was nicer-- and better prices!-- than any place in Honoruru.
Plus-- Kam Swap Meet at the defunct Kamehameha drive-in location. 25 cents entry and lots of locals, selling normal things, not like the touristy stuff at Aloha Stadium.
Posted by: JQ at November 28, 2025 10:23 PM (rdVOm)
70
53 You're going to get the hose again.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 28, 2025 10:14 PM (ys6FW)
I'm Gen X, the hose was pretty much my only source of hydration from June through August from the ages of 4 to 16.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 10:24 PM (IxQNO)
71
I’m missing Tulsa.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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So are we. Take us back there.
https://tinyurl.com/bdkb97u5
Posted by: Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys at November 28, 2025 10:24 PM (gf7Ez)
72
Tulsa is full of cheap motels inhabited by speed freaks and drug dealers. Avoid at all costs.
Posted by: Hints From Heloise at November 28, 2025 10:24 PM (oftw2)
Need someone to hip me to WTH is up with the two girlies painting their arms and embracing. The cut to the coffee drinking guy smiling approvingly furthers my confusion..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 28, 2025 10:25 PM (nbLIj)
Posted by: scampydog at November 28, 2025 10:27 PM (41CYW)
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74 Need someone to hip me to WTH is up with the two girlies painting their arms and embracing.
Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 28, 2025 10:25 PM
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If the objective was to apply a white handprint on the black shirt and a black handprint on the white shirt, they got it backwards and didn't know it.
79
Neat stuff tonight, Weirddave! Thank you for the ONT.
That truck driver may not have survived-- ugh. Scary.
But I love the doggeh "rescuing" that duck!
Cookie cutter video was interesting. I collect cookie cutters, btw.
Posted by: JQ at November 28, 2025 10:28 PM (rdVOm)
80
I’ve lived in or near three of the cities. My earliest memory (age 3) is of visiting St. Louis and riding up in the Arch. One tends not to forget that experience.
Posted by: QED Texan Grandpa-to-be at November 28, 2025 10:28 PM (sSwOV)
81
I remember a commercial jingle for the Ala Moana Mall in Honolulu from when my dad as stationed there in the 60s.
Back to school
Ding ding dingalong
Ala Moana has everything!
Weird how you remember stuff like that, huh?
Posted by: fd at November 28, 2025 10:29 PM (vFG9F)
82
66 Jefferson had already done a similar document for the Virginia House of Burgesses, and he was a good writer.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2025 10:22 PM (rbvCR)
I thought Jefferson was heavily influenced by the Virginia Declaration of Rights that George Mason wrote for the House of Burgesses when writing the Declaration of Independence, though his talent as a writer was acknowledged at the time.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 10:29 PM (IxQNO)
83
For anyone who cares, the Buenos Aires ComiCon is the 5th, 6th and 7th of December this year.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2025 10:30 PM (rbvCR)
84
Ala Moana Center was *the most expensive place* to buy anything, in the 80s.
Posted by: JQ at November 28, 2025 10:31 PM (rdVOm)
85
Only been to 9 of 'em, and a few of those I didn't see much of outside of the software training sites and Greyhound stations. With luck, I won't be adding to that number any time soon.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 28, 2025 10:31 PM (q3u5l)
86
On a tour, we visited Snagov Monastery where Vlad Tepes is supposedly buried. They say "supposedly" because the Orthodox Monks will not let Vlad's grave be disturbed, or even scanned.
More interesting to me, though, was ol' Vlad learned his impalement techniques from the Ottomans. Little did they know....
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at November 28, 2025 10:31 PM (bufu1)
87
> 19 That "Let Her Eat Steak" is probably enough food that the water wouldn't have had to bother with the wafer-thin after dinner mint to finish off Mr..Creosote.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 10:02 PM (IxQNO)
The only way that there could be $1,700 worth of food would be if an entire side of beef was involved.
I'm sorry, but paying that much for a restaurant meal is just retarded.
I don't care how nice the restaurant is.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 28, 2025 10:32 PM (IG3/x)
88I thought Jefferson was heavily influenced by the Virginia Declaration of Rights that George Mason wrote for the House of Burgesses when writing the Declaration of Independence, though his talent as a writer was acknowledged at the time.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 10:29 PM (IxQNO)
I may have gotten that backwards, but I think Jefferson had been working the concept for a while.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2025 10:32 PM (rbvCR)
89
Back to school
Ding ding dingalong
Ala Moana has everything!
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So iambic pentameter isn't a Hawaiian thing?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 28, 2025 10:32 PM (dyewR)
90
For anyone who cares, the Buenos Aires ComiCon is the 5th, 6th and 7th of December this year.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2025 10:30 PM (rbvCR)
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Don't cry for it, Argentina.
91
Making pumpkin pies tonight. One for this weekend, one to freeze for Christmas.
I'm such a lazy one... but that bacon cheeburger last night was worth the effort!
Posted by: JQ at November 28, 2025 10:33 PM (rdVOm)
92
" Ala Moana Center was *the most expensive place* to buy anything, in the 80s.
Posted by: JQ "
I don't remember much more about it than the jingle, and that we did shop there some when we lived on that side of the island in Foster Village. We were gone by the 70s though.
Posted by: fd at November 28, 2025 10:33 PM (vFG9F)
93
The only way that there could be $1,700 worth of food would be if an entire side of beef was involved.
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$1,725 with tip.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 28, 2025 10:33 PM (dyewR)
94 I have sullied my footwear in 34 of the 50 cities.
103
The thrill of victory; also the agony of victory.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Stranger In a Strange Land at November 28, 2025 10:35 PM (L/fGl)
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No man would agree to that. He would remember the joke about kicking each other in the nuts.
104
If the objective was to apply a white handprint on the black shirt and a black handprint on the white shirt, they got it backwards and didn't know it.
Posted by: TRex - social media commentator at November 28, 2025 10:28 PM (cCn4/)
Thank you, TRex.
Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 28, 2025 10:37 PM (nbLIj)
105
How did they list all those cities and leave out Kathmandu?
Posted by: Cicero
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Bob Seger, is that you?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2025 10:38 PM (XeU6L)
Every single one was because I was paid to be there.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 28, 2025 10:39 PM (Z5/Ih)
107
Seen any naugas lately? You know why ...
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at November 28, 2025 10:37 PM (xG4kz)
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Naugahyde is still alive and well, though, so they are out there somewhere.
My father has the real deal, a couch with fold-out bed complete with cigarette burn on one of the cushions. When you sit on it, it makes a farting noise.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 28, 2025 10:40 PM (IC093)
111
Bob Seger, is that you?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 28, 2025 10:38 PM (XeU6L)
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I'm hearing "Beautiful Loser" more often than I used to. This means something.
"Donder und Blitzen" is thunder and lightning in Krautese.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at November 28, 2025 10:40 PM (xG4kz)
It is Donner, not Donder.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 10:43 PM (IxQNO)
114
I'm probably coming in way late with this, but Trump said he's going to invalidate anything that was signed by Biden's autopen.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 28, 2025 10:43 PM (IG3/x)
115 If you were in a state's Air Space on a flight, does that count as being in that State?
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 28, 2025 10:44 PM (GptnP)
116There was this one time when I was standing on a corner in Winslow, Arizona...
Posted by: Glenn Frey at November 28, 2025 10:42 PM (XeU6L)
Then an illegal semi driver with a fake CDL ran you over.
Posted by: RickZ at November 28, 2025 10:44 PM (gKDq2)
117
It is Donner, not Donder.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 10:43 PM (IxQNO)
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I think in the poem, it's "Donder."
Posted by: As in D at November 28, 2025 10:45 PM (oftw2)
120
Heard an amusing story about the Declaration of Independence -
Morning AM radio show that has a historian weekly as a guest -
Virtually every phrase in it was a buzz-phrase from recent English history on why they are so fvcking awesome and the freest country on Earth -
IOW, a bigger F-U than most of ever thought
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 28, 2025 10:45 PM (Z5/Ih)
121
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"Donder und Blitzen" is thunder and lightning in Krautese.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at November 28, 2025 10:40 PM (xG4kz)
It is Donner, not Donder.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 10:43 PM (IxQNO)
Google Translate says "Donner" is Kraut, "Donder" is Butterbox.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 28, 2025 10:46 PM (IG3/x)
122
Then an illegal semi driver with a fake CDL ran you over.
Posted by: RickZ at November 28, 2025 10:44 PM (gKDq2)
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I mean, the State of California issued it, so it's real, but also completely fake.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 28, 2025 10:45 PM (ZOv7s)
Wikipedia says C.L. Moore was a life-long New Yorker. The Dutch influence was still strong there back then.
Makes sense that he'd use "Donder".
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 28, 2025 10:49 PM (IG3/x)
128
Trump's coming in late with it too. He could have done this eight months ago.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 10:47 PM (IxQNO)
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No, he had to wait for it ripen. The various House hearings where people either 'fessed up or took the 5th. He's much, much better than in his first term. Timing is impeccable.
129I’m missing Tulsa.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at November 28, 2025 09:55 PM (uDDWT)
First time that's ever been said.
How long do we have to wait for TULSA spelled backwards joke?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 28, 2025 10:50 PM (a4flb)
130
I’m missing Tulsa.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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So am I.
Posted by: Leon Russell at November 28, 2025 10:50 PM (XeU6L)
131
Trump's greatest flaw is that he dithers
Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2025 10:48 PM (rbvCR)
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Compared to such paragons of speed as George W. Bush, who never quite got around to doing jack shit for most of what he campaigned on.
132 I had always heard that Jefferson was the one to write the Declaration pretty much becaise the committe left the scut work to the nerd. Adams did say Jefferson was a better writer than he was, but he was still the low man on the totem pole and got stuck with chores while the others went out to party. (Okay, Adams didn't exactly party, but he had better things to do than waste his time dipping a quill into an inkwell.)
Posted by: tankdemon
In the miniseries "John Adams", Jefferson comes off as being mostly a disinterested prick with respect to what the others on the committee thought about his grammar and syntax.
133
How long do we have to wait for TULSA spelled backwards joke?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 28, 2025 10:50 PM (a4flb)
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Wait, is this about me?
134
I'm sorry, but paying that much for a restaurant meal is just retarded.
I don't care how nice the restaurant is.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 28, 2025 10:32 PM (IG3/x)
Maybe they'll have a coupon you can use in the local PennySaver paper.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 28, 2025 10:52 PM (8QVSJ)
135
FUN FACT: Science tells us that the cheapest dates in American history were the Right-to-Lifers who kept voting in Republican presidents who then appointed pro-choice Justices.
Posted by: olddog in mo at November 28, 2025 10:56 PM (bQ4nt)
138
40.
lol on the Christmas towns. I was just up by Donner Pass on our gf yearly vacation. The fact they actually got that far and then some made it over that summit to safety, with basically nothing, is totally mind boggling. I just read a great bio of it by the guy who wrote The Boys in A Boat. It was called The Indifferent Stars Above. Highly recommend. It's not just an extremely well written account from start to finish. He also includes many asides that make their story even more astounding. Things about surviving hypothermia or starvation or logistics of moving a wagon train. These were extremely hearty souls. Fascinating book.
Posted by: keena at November 28, 2025 10:57 PM (xPNeT)
139
I just went yes/no on the cities. Didn’t know I was to count them. Been in quite a few.
Posted by: Javems at November 28, 2025 10:57 PM (8I4hW)
Posted by: Bulg at November 28, 2025 10:57 PM (77rzZ)
141
The little boy may have been retching, but he also kept holding it. I'd be worried about him.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 28, 2025 10:57 PM (8QVSJ)
142
AOP, I had a few of the Trans-Oceanics, even the earliest 7G605. The H500 had an early form of solid state device, a selenium based rectifier.
It’s easy to burn out the filaments in a battery set, the filament voltage is only 1.5 volts, the tubes are actually pretty tough but must avoid pulling and re-installing them. A couple of the tubes are getting harder to find, 1L6 oscillator tube and they used a current regulator on the H500
A lot of guys try to lower the filament voltage and go all through these elaborate contortions to try and save the tube life. They won’t work right, however with lowered string voltage, them Zenith engineers was smart. They are designed for rugged use with substandard line voltages.
I rigged up sixty yes, 60 “AA” batteries for the plate voltage and 6 “D” cells for the filaments. Battery power is nice, get away from all that household RFI in the sticks and they really come alive.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 28, 2025 10:58 PM (Snw0w)
143
Nobody at the gym should be wearing a bra and panties as outerwear especially fat chicks. When did clothes become optional? When are dudes going to show up in banana hammocks? It boggles.
Posted by: NCKate at November 28, 2025 10:59 PM (sYdt/)
144The runner up was the Second Amendment crowd.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 28, 2025 10:54 PM (ZOv7s)
well, the options have always been between the proverbial "roofie and a train" or "have to pay my own dinner and never getting called the next day" or "accused of being unpatriotic for not voting"
Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2025 10:59 PM (rbvCR)
145
Truth Social 1:37 pm President Donald J Trump:
Any document signed by Sleepy Joe Biden with the Autopen, which was approximately 92% of them, is hereby terminated, and of no further force or effect. The Autopen is not allowed to be used if approval is not specifically given by the President of the United
States. The Radical Left Lunatics circling Biden around the beautiful Resolute Desk in the Oval Office took the Presidency away from him. I am hereby cancelling all Executive Orders, and anything else that was not directly signed by Crooked Joe Biden, because the people who operated the Autopen did so illegally. Joe Biden was not involved in the Autopen process and, if he says he was, he will be brought up on charges of perjury. Thank you for your attention to this matter!
Posted by: rickb223 at November 28, 2025 10:59 PM (3k5hk)
146
He also includes many asides that make their story even more astounding. Things about surviving hypothermia or starvation or logistics of moving a wagon train. These were extremely hearty souls. Fascinating book.
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What's more impressive is that all of the survivors carried on with their lives without a lifetime of therapy or preening victimhood. They just sucked it up and moved on.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 28, 2025 11:00 PM (dyewR)
147
Dondi was a comic character an Italian boy orphaned in WW2 and adopted by an American GI serving overseas
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 28, 2025 11:00 PM (BYYrn)
148 "Hung like a turkey" is something that one never hears.
I feel the same way as that kid with the raw turkey. BLEAH. I kept waiting for him to harf into the bird.
When we were newlyweds my husband brought home a whole chicken and asked me to carve it. Like I knew how. He later found chicken parts that were pretty strange and wth, like a wing/breast. He never asked me to do that again.
If I can help it I won't even touch raw poultry. He does and I will cook it, but I'm not filled with joy. I will pick it up with either a fork or tongs or something not touching my fingers. Then almost a 3min scrub.
The ONLY time I almost harfed while pregnant was with #1 son. I threw some nasty chicken skin towards the garbage and instead hit a cabinet and our dog ate it. I had to go outside and take deep breaths.
I have some peculiar traits, but being a supermodel he does not mind.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 28, 2025 11:00 PM (WONhk)
150
The sound of someone harfing will make me harf.
Nope.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 28, 2025 11:03 PM (158Wx)
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Most of those cities listed, I just drove through or was at the airport. A few of them, I was visiting in the burbs but never actually saw the city (Boston for instance). So, I visited about a half dozen of those cities.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 28, 2025 11:03 PM (v9vY1)
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Ever see the bar tab for the founding fathers? Maybe Jefferson was the only one sober enough to be trusted to write it. Otherwise it might have been covered with doodles of boobs and the 1776 version of "for a good time, call..."
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 28, 2025 11:04 PM (8QVSJ)
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Aggies are going to lose. Been a while since they've beaten the Longhorns. 15 years or so? Won't be tonight either.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 28, 2025 11:04 PM (v9vY1)
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I just bought a paper bag at Ralphs earlier today. 10 cents. Very sturdy. Comes with handles.
Posted by: no one at November 28, 2025 11:07 PM (GLn15)
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Ever see the bar tab for the founding fathers? Maybe Jefferson was the only one sober enough to be trusted to write it. Otherwise it might have been covered with doodles of boobs and the 1776 version of "for a good time, call..."
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 28, 2025 11:04 PM (8QVSJ)
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The quality of whiskey was determined by its alcohol content.
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I just bought a paper bag at Ralphs earlier today. 10 cents. Very sturdy. Comes with handles.
Posted by: no one at November 28, 2025 11:07 PM (GLn15)
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For you or for her? I don't judge.
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The sound of someone harfing will make me harf.
Nope.
Posted by: nurse ratched
F'n convicts would do that to us. At the prison hospital, when a nurse would have to go into their room, we would have to go in also. Every now and then, one would be ill and throwing up. 🤮
Posted by: rickb223 at November 28, 2025 11:08 PM (3k5hk)
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150 Christy, few things trigger my OCD more than raw poultry. No way I’m touching that if I can avoid it. My wife can deal with it. And she does so very well.
Posted by: Bulg at November 28, 2025 11:09 PM (77rzZ)
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151 The sound of someone harfing will make me harf.
Nope.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 28, 2025 11:03 PM (158Wx)
Males are such loud harfers. I have only harfed a few times in my entire life. A couple of stomach viruses in childhood; a norovirus type in college before the bicentennial that I gave to my brothers for our July 4th celebration in Panama City. And once after Indian food. Never to I make the noise men do.
I had Salmonella and never harfed. Passed out cold from mild diarrhea, and so the doc thought I would be fine without an antibiotic. I was not and the only time I felt better from an antibiotic in 8hrs. Cipro was scarce due to the anthrax scare in Florida...our ED had a sign that said, with symptoms, "You probably don't have anthrax but we will see you."
One son had senior night that week (marching band) and escorted me onto the football field. I look like death and by then I had a day of Cipro.
As a RN it is suctioning that grosses me out. This is due to a girl in junior high having an explosion in the cafeteria. One would assume a sinus infection. We all screamed.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 28, 2025 11:10 PM (WONhk)
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I came home tired from work one day. The dog (a Great Dane) had had a pooping accident by the front door. Hubby had tried to clean it up before I got home, but harfed in the attempt. What a mess that was
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 28, 2025 11:10 PM (ys6FW)
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153 Ever see the bar tab for the founding fathers? Maybe Jefferson was the only one sober enough to be trusted to write it. Otherwise it might have been covered with doodles of boobs and the 1776 version of "for a good time, call..."
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
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Who would write for the late night Morons?
Posted by: scampydog at November 28, 2025 11:13 PM (41CYW)
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I am watching our 3mo old baby granddaughter sleep while her siblings are at a Christmas play with parents. I hope she makes it til they return for her next bottle, altho she's a sweetie. DIL thought it would not last over 1.5hrs. Nope! 2.5hrs.
Baby girl conked out at 6pm right after that bottle. I wish I slept as well as she does.
I feel sure she will wake up raising heck for a bottle right this second.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 28, 2025 11:13 PM (WONhk)
167
Ren Center in Detroit is getting a revitalization, not being torn down.
Posted by: TecumsehTea at November 28, 2025 11:14 PM (+4S8X)
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165 I came home tired from work one day. The dog (a Great Dane) had had a pooping accident by the front door. Hubby had tried to clean it up before I got home, but harfed in the attempt. What a mess that was
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 28, 2025 11:10 PM (ys6FW)
LOL
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 28, 2025 11:14 PM (WONhk)
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Fvc@ing idiots started memes we were cutting down the Redwoods to make toothpicks and grocery bags, so they switched to those execrable plastic sacks. “Due to the plastic bag ban in your area” now you gotta pay extra for … plastic sacks.
It used to be, the price of the things you bought, paid for the damn bag to put them in. Everything is fake, and gay now. Sad
Posted by: Common Tater at November 28, 2025 11:15 PM (Snw0w)
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When Mrs. F. was pregnant and we didn't even know, she was emetic while we were trapped in a people-mover at LAX with about 40 other horrified passengers. Oh, what fun we had!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 28, 2025 11:16 PM (IC093)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 28, 2025 11:17 PM (dyewR)
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#3 A&M played a team with a winning record tonight and lost. Man, so much depends on schedule.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 28, 2025 11:17 PM (jc0TO)
176 I rigged up sixty yes, 60 “AA” batteries for the plate voltage and 6 “D” cells for the filaments. Battery power is nice, get away from all that household RFI in the sticks and they really come alive.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 28, 2025 10:58 PM (Snw0w)
Hah! I was trying to figure out a way to power one with 18650 lithium cells. Problem is, filaments take 9 volts, and two cells in series is not enough, and three is too many. Maybe the best answer? Build a switching power supply fed by a 20 volt cordless tool battery, with one output 9 volts DC, and the other 90. Build the switcher into a metal box, and shield all the leads in and out.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2025 11:17 PM (npFr7)
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I never understood why they got rid of paper bags. Trees are a crop, like wheat or sugarcane. We can always make more. That's what we get for listening to experts.
Posted by: fd at November 28, 2025 11:17 PM (vFG9F)
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>>> The sound of someone harfing will make me harf.
Nope.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 28, 2025 11:03 PM (158Wx)
I remember back in grade school one of the worst things was a harfing chain reaction in the cafeteria. I swear it happened damned near every day. And the smell.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 28, 2025 11:19 PM (3uBP9)
Posted by: fd at November 28, 2025 11:19 PM (vFG9F)
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So now it’s a vomit thread?
Posted by: Bulg at November 28, 2025 11:16 PM
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There's a reason I'm banned from the Concord Diner on Merrick Blvd.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 28, 2025 11:19 PM (IC093)
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One of my favorite read biographies was of Benjamin Franklin. The man loved his fart jokes. To give you an idea about how wary others were of him....his own brother wouldn't let him write for the New England-Courant despite owning it. Instead, Franklin wrote in as a middle aged widow just to get published and developed a huge following. He was only a teenager at the time.
I tend to think if he was going to sneak a joke into the Declaration of Independence it would have been at the expense of King George. Or he might have slipped his well know comments in such as: "We must all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately." Or "He's a fool that makes his doctor his heir," in reference to how they set up the colonies to avoid this analogy.
Posted by: Orson at November 28, 2025 11:21 PM (dIske)
182 Back when I lived in the Bay Area, winter weather reports often included advisories that "Snow chains are required on I-80 for vehicles intending to go over Donner Pass".
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It will probably stay that way until Pixy throws up a new one in a few hours.
Posted by: fd at November 28, 2025 11:21 PM (vFG9F)
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When did the b in barf get swapped out and replaced with an h?
Posted by: no one at November 28, 2025 11:21 PM (GLn15)
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Assuming Alabama wins tomorrow, it will be yet another Georgia-Alabama matchup in the SEC Championship.
If Alabama loses GA-OleMiss.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 28, 2025 11:21 PM (jc0TO)
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Anyone else remember the pink sawdust the janitor would Pur down on top of a kid’s vomit in elementary school?
Posted by: Bulg at November 28, 2025 11:21 PM (77rzZ)
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As a former bar worker.. the sound of harfing didn't make me ill. (It frustrated & enraged-- because I was probably gonna be the one to *clean it up*)
It's... the smell... that got to me. Bucket o' bleach water, and stuck my nose over *that* so I didn't catch a whiff of whatever the drunkard puked up. And to sterilize the table/chair/floor/ whatever. Ugh.
Gawd.
I loved my factory job. Nobody nearby. Worked in the back corner of a building, away from the main production area.. only had to answer the phone for inter-office calls.. heaven!
Posted by: JQ at November 28, 2025 11:22 PM (rdVOm)
188
You could also “proof” alcohol in the sense that the good stuff would burn, thus proving it wasn’t watered down.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 28, 2025 11:22 PM (Snw0w)
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I remember back in grade school one of the worst things was a harfing chain reaction in the cafeteria. I swear it happened damned near every day. And the smell.
Posted by: banana Dream
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I can still smell the sawdust stuff the janitor sprinkled whenever a kid harfed. Ewww.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 28, 2025 11:22 PM (ys6FW)
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Anyone else remember the pink sawdust the janitor would Pur down on top of a kid’s vomit in elementary school?
Posted by: Bulg
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No, but I remember the peppermint-scented spray that the bus drivers used.
Posted by: JQ at November 28, 2025 11:23 PM (rdVOm)
191It's... the smell... that got to me. Bucket o' bleach water, and stuck my nose over *that* so I didn't catch a whiff of whatever the drunkard puked up. And to sterilize the table/chair/floor/ whatever. Ugh.
Gawd.
One thing I learned from Hollywood, Vics Vaporub on your lip or swabbed up your nostrals will cover any stench.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 28, 2025 11:23 PM (jc0TO)
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Grok says the truck driver in the clip was killed instantly.
It was in Ontario, Canada and the cause was listed as accidental. No charges were filed but the trucking company was fined around $10K.
Driver is legally responsible for securing his load.
Posted by: pawn at November 28, 2025 11:27 PM (sPsWv)
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Texas all three losses were away games and two were losses to #1 and #4 . And Florida should have beat #4 so they were no push over at home,
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 11:27 PM (KDPiq)
Posted by: Bulg at November 28, 2025 11:27 PM (77rzZ)
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158 I just bought a paper bag at Ralphs earlier today. 10 cents. Very sturdy. Comes with handles.
Posted by: no one at November 28, 2025 11:07 PM (GLn15)
January 1st in California was like reverse Christmas when all the new laws/taxes/fees took effect. I think last January was when they applied the 10 cent "deposit" fee for wine bottles. Nickled and dimed for every damn thing.
I never bought a shopping bag. I grabbed a bunch of free tote bags at a Vegas trade show around the time California imposed the first bag fee. I think this new ban also includes the little plastic bags in the produce section. You might want to take a few extra home with you throughout December.
One of my sincerest gratitude prayers last evening was being delivered from that dystopian government. It must not be allowed to spread!
Posted by: Joe Kidd at November 28, 2025 11:28 PM (nbLIj)
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 28, 2025 11:28 PM (ys6FW)
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Having kids and dogs and I'm pretty much harf proof.
The best harf inducer I've found is overswing yaw with rudder release at a point in the sky where an aircraft, generally highly swept wing aircraft, has low or neutral duchroll with all yaw damping systems set inactive. It's the fastest way to finding if a test crewmember will wash out. Better than roller coaster and negative Gs.
Coupled yaw and roll, horizon is swinging and you are going side to side, three cycles in and everyone knows.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 28, 2025 11:28 PM (3uBP9)
204 I was merely going with the flow. Otherwise, I'd have written "warfed".
207
I remember my frat brothers gagging when opening an ice chest with no ice but raw chicken that had been in there for 24 hours.
My sides hurt so much from laughing as they disposed of it.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 11:30 PM (KDPiq)
208
Grok says the truck driver in the clip was killed instantly.
It was in Ontario, Canada and the cause was listed as accidental. No charges were filed but the trucking company was fined around $10K.
Driver is legally responsible for securing his load.
Posted by: pawn a
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Sad. But at least it was quick and the driver didn't suffer.
I suppose that's the best any of us could hope for, yes?
Posted by: JQ at November 28, 2025 11:30 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: fd at November 28, 2025 11:31 PM (vFG9F)
210 I can do a pretty evocative imitation of the series of noises that lead up to our dogs warfing up something. The missus demands that I not perform it in her presence.
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I stopped going to Barnes & Noble for books the day they decided that it was important to stop providing bags so that some imaginary duck didn't drown somewhere.
Posted by: Orson at November 28, 2025 11:31 PM (dIske)
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I don't see why Newark is not on the list, as it was the most horrible place on earth. I don't scare easy, and it was Mogadishu to me by Penn Station.
The white policeman with his dog laughed at me when I asked if it was safe to go to Walgreen's two blocks away for saline for my contacts and a gallon of drinking water (I don't drink from taps when I travel, another neurosis). He sneered at my redneck self and said, "Well, it's DAYLIGHT." Like I could not tell. So my husband and I ventured off. Within one minute, and I am not lying, a moose limb ululated out of his cab at me and patched out.Then there were many hookers and druggies we crept through. Asked directions and one kind hooker told us about an alley short cut. I was going to go and my husband asked if I was crazy...NO alley. Walgreen's was an oasis of peace. Then we went back to the hotel by Penn Station and did not make eye contact with anyone. I told him I was not leaving the hotel for the two days we were there unless in a car, which was not much better.
Orlando is not on the list, either. Whoever made this list did not consult me.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 28, 2025 11:31 PM (WONhk)
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Harfing. I thought it was a throwback to that Marie Harf creature.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 28, 2025 11:32 PM (ys6FW)
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More poor cat loves to eat grass and I know she will eventually barf. She gives me a warning because she first gives a horrific cry and then tries to find a place to barf.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 11:33 PM (KDPiq)
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 28, 2025 11:33 PM (ys6FW)
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Hah! I was trying to figure out a way to power one with 18650 lithium cells.
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That’s a lot of cells! There was a feller making custom batteries for these, Jim Poitivient. They used 6 or 9 “D” cells and a shielded inverter to get both the A and B supply. Worked well. He sent me one for free, I had a website up on the T-Os and mentioned his product. He got a lot of inquiries about them, so I guess word of mouth advertising really is best.
The selenium rectifier is said to be a weak spot, if it works that might be unusual, I don’t know. Of course a modern silicon diode will work fine. A lot of people agonize over dropping resistor values with a diode, the “9 volts” for the filament string isn’t that exact, the problem with trying to tailor it too closely, or lower it, the oscillator section will drop out rendering it deaf. They are good radios, they were expensive back in the day. No FM band on the tube sets, I also like the early brushed aluminium versions. Very cool sets.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 28, 2025 11:33 PM (Snw0w)
Posted by: banana Dream - THUNDERCATS HO! at November 28, 2025 11:33 PM (3uBP9)
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I can do a pretty evocative imitation of the series of noises that lead up to our dogs warfing up something. The missus demands that I not perform it in her presence.
Posted by: Krebs v Carno
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Ok, I LOL'd!
Posted by: JQ at November 28, 2025 11:34 PM (rdVOm)
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Well at least 2 of the current topics involved.
Stopped into the Von's in Truckee (just east of Donner Pass) after some x-c skiing, right when the first plastic bag ban/whatever began. They had no paper bags, had run out. So that was stupid.
Next day down near Reno at a Raley's not only did they have paper-or-plastic, but they had self-check lines where you could buy alcohol. I asked a cashier how they managed that, adding that of course miles away in CA it was verboten. She laughed. When alcohol was scanned, a red light lit up, and nearest cashier would look over. If young men/women involved, they'd go over and card them. If other, meh. System worked fine.
CA retardation has no theoretical limit and degrades every corner of every part of life.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 28, 2025 11:35 PM (U/Byj)
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>>>Whiskey's role wasn't just functional; it was also social.
The simple act of sharing whiskey while preparing for conflicts fostered camaraderie among soldiers and hunters.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 28, 2025 11:35 PM (Zz+7G)
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38 cities fir me. I did not know Vlad Dracula was buried in a monastery. Kind of deflated the idea of a blood thirsty undead creature. I can completely understand the monks wanting no one see the frame. They woukd be overrun with every weirdo on the planet wanting a piece of Dracula.
Posted by: Megthered at November 28, 2025 11:35 PM (3TRNo)
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I lived in Newark for 2 years and loved it but I'm accustomed to living in the ghetto.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 28, 2025 11:36 PM (vL0rw)
223
I thought I traveled a lot for business but you guys have me beat easily . I only have 25 cities on the list.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 11:37 PM (KDPiq)
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As a kid, I was in the front row singing in the church Christmas program. I started feeling woozie and harfed all over the director.
Posted by: QED Texan Grandpa-to-be at November 28, 2025 11:37 PM (sSwOV)
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So, just anything ending in “-arf” can be used to denote vomiting now? Fine, I’ll go with “quarf.”
Posted by: Bulg at November 28, 2025 11:37 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: RobertM at November 28, 2025 11:37 PM (btIS/)
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When food was carried in gunny sacks, gunnies were hunted to extinction.
Posted by: Green Behind The Gills
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Good thing they didn't run out of tows.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 28, 2025 11:38 PM (Zz+7G)
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Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 28, 2025 11:31 PM (WONhk)
__________________________
Old trick for bad neighborhoods. Clip board, sunglasses and a baseball hat. They spend the entire time you're walking by trying to determine if you are immigration, law enforcement, or Jehovah Witness canvassers. By the time they come to a decision you're down the street.
Posted by: Orson at November 28, 2025 11:39 PM (dIske)
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Anyone else remember the pink sawdust the janitor would Pur down on top of a kid’s vomit in elementary school?
Posted by: Bulg
I remember the smell. It was almost worse than the vomit itself.
Posted by: QED Texan Grandpa-to-be at November 28, 2025 11:39 PM (sSwOV)
230
I have never barfed, harfed or hurled in public. I have fainted, which was embarrassing
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 28, 2025 11:39 PM (ys6FW)
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I have cats. Cats have hairballs, often in the middle of the night. Puke is not that important.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2025 11:40 PM (rbvCR)
232
Used to fly into Newark when visiting NYC . Used to be less expensive .
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 11:40 PM (KDPiq)
233 I can completely understand the monks wanting no one see the frame. They woukd be overrun with every weirdo on the planet wanting a piece of Dracula.
Posted by: Megthered
Many here probably know that the coffin of Abraham Lincoln (and his wife) are encased in a pretty substantial quantity of concrete in Springfield, IL because several attempts to steal his bones had been thwarted up to that point and authorities decided to put an end to them.
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208 I remember my frat brothers gagging when opening an ice chest with no ice but raw chicken that had been in there for 24 hours.
My sides hurt so much from laughing as they disposed of it.
Posted by: the way I see it
Leave it in there for 48 hours and you have the best crab bait ever.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 28, 2025 11:41 PM (mT+6a)
235 How did they list all those cities and leave out Kathmandu?
Posted by: Cicero
What about Timbucktu?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 28, 2025 11:41 PM (ZVgZ4)
236
They referred to it as "sweeping compound". You can still get it at janitorial and cleaning supplies outlets.
We have a five gallon pail filled with it in our basement. It cuts down on dust in the air as you sweep.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at November 28, 2025 11:26 PM (xG4kz)
The stuff I remember Mr. Wilson using at my elementary school was green.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2025 11:41 PM (npFr7)
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I have never barfed, harfed or hurled in public. I have fainted, which was embarrassing
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary
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I was "that kid" hanging out the car window on winding roads... Thanked God when Dramamine became available OTC!
Posted by: JQ at November 28, 2025 11:41 PM (rdVOm)
238
Visited 12 of the cities, but was only 5 years old when I was in San Antonio so I don't really remember it.
Posted by: Frankie at November 28, 2025 11:43 PM (yrmOH)
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Leave it in there for 48 hours and you have the best crab bait ever.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 28, 2025 11:41 PM (mT+6a)
Geographic Math.
Louisiana 24 hrs = 48 Seattle hrs
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 11:43 PM (KDPiq)
240
I have heard that but who woukd want Abe Lincolns bones and what woukd you do with them?
Posted by: Megthered at November 28, 2025 11:44 PM (3TRNo)
241 I thought I traveled a lot for business but you guys have me beat easily . I only have 25 cities on the list.
Posted by: the way I see it
About one third of my total for cities visited were due to accompanying the missus to artsy fartsy conferences. Tampa, Portland, Phoenix and San Diego come to mind right off the bat.
242
“Technicolor Yawn”
“Tossing Your Cookies”
“Praying to the Porcelain Goddess”
“Barfed” is correct, per the AOS styleguide. Writers are encouraged to review the styleguide on a regular basis and adhere to policy guidelines. Rules can be discussed but must be obeyed. Thank you for your attention to this matter
Posted by: Common Tater at November 28, 2025 11:44 PM (Snw0w)
243
Reno was running on normal last time I was there.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 28, 2025 11:44 PM (Zz+7G)
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>>>Whiskey's role wasn't just functional; it was also social.
The simple act of sharing whiskey while preparing for conflicts fostered camaraderie among soldiers and hunters.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others
Heh.
Loads of asian movies, before tense negotiations...
"But first, we drink... "
Four finger shots going down between shots of whiskey fifths getting empty... Usually Johnny Walker Blue, three or four bottles
"OK, let's talk"
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 28, 2025 11:45 PM (Z5/Ih)
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 28, 2025 11:46 PM (mT+6a)
246 We have a five gallon pail filled with it in our basement. It cuts down on dust in the air as you sweep.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison!
The material that we have it brown and has a strong scent of cedar to it. How that may change if it was applied to something else having a strong odor is an experience that I am likely not to have.
247
Tampa, Portland, Phoenix and San Diego come to mind right off the bat.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at November 28, 2025 11:44 PM (xG4kz)
Hah those are four I’ve not visited.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 11:47 PM (KDPiq)
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 28, 2025 11:47 PM (mT+6a)
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The selenium rectifier is said to be a weak spot, if it works that might be unusual, I don’t know. Of course a modern silicon diode will work fine. A lot of people agonize over dropping resistor values with a diode, the “9 volts” for the filament string isn’t that exact, the problem with trying to tailor it too closely, or lower it, the oscillator section will drop out rendering it deaf. They are good radios, they were expensive back in the day. No FM band on the tube sets, I also like the early brushed aluminium versions. Very cool sets.
Posted by: Common Tater at November 28, 2025 11:33 PM (Snw0w)
I have not dug into at all. The power cord is crisp; needs replacing. I will probably replace some capacitors, too. Not a lot of hum at all so the filter caps may be good. I assume the 1L6 is good, because it hears stations on 16 meters. Maybe someone did a recap years ago? There is a huge yellow 3-prong grounding plug on the skinny brown two-wire zip cord.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2025 11:48 PM (npFr7)
250
Back in the pre-interstate days we used to dive through W PA to visit my Grandparents and my sister always threw up at the same place.
I called it Barf Mountain.
I used to get the death eyeball from my Dad in the mirror as we got close because I was always reading the maps and knew where everything was.
Posted by: pawn at November 28, 2025 11:48 PM (sPsWv)
251
I have heard that but who woukd want Abe Lincolns bones and what woukd you do with them?
Posted by: Megthered
Bone broth.
Very good for vitality in bedroom.
- Chinese Medicine
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 28, 2025 11:49 PM (Z5/Ih)
252
They have some type of material they spread on dance floors . I remember that because I swept it up when I was a kid working at the American Legion hall.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 11:50 PM (KDPiq)
253
I don't get sick or nauseous but I can't handle amusement park rides that go spinney spinney. All roller coasters, no problem. The kinds that drop, no problem. But the spinney tea cups with toddlers laughing? Nope, I feel like I'm dying. Tilt-a-whirl, no way. Even some carousels I'm iffy with. And this only started about 10-15 years ago. Suddenly my head said "Sorry Dave, I can't do that" It literally feels like my brain is shutting off and I'm blacking out. From just a little spin.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 28, 2025 11:50 PM (3uBP9)
254
Tossing cookies
Puke
Chunder (from our friends down under)
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 28, 2025 11:50 PM (ys6FW)
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250 The selenium rectifier is said to be a weak spot, if it works that might be unusual, I don’t know.
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Flux capacitor > selenium rectifier
Posted by: Doc Brown at November 28, 2025 11:50 PM (dyewR)
256
“Technicolor Yawn”
“Tossing Your Cookies”
“Praying to the Porcelain Goddess”
Long distance phone call for Pepe Lopez
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 28, 2025 11:51 PM (Z5/Ih)
257 I wanted to go downhill skiing on Mt. Hood when we visited Portland many years ago, but it was only early Spring and tire chains were required had I elected to drive up to a ski hill there.
258
Hmmm... Bessent... Sec Treasury? says they will no longer give Illegal Aliens benefits under the Income Tax system... ie... illegals don't get child care rebates and such.
Which means... they will have to put in place a way to distinguish citizens, vice Legal, vice illegal, people.
About damn time
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 28, 2025 11:52 PM (mP0Kj)
259
They referred to it as "sweeping compound". You can still get it at janitorial and cleaning supplies outlets.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot:
One of the brand names most used was Vom-a-Sorb.
Seriously.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 28, 2025 11:53 PM (cYBz/)
260
258
I wanted to go downhill skiing on Mt. Hood when we visited Portland many years ago, but it was only early Spring and tire chains were required had I elected to drive up to a ski hill there.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Imprison! Imprison! Imprison! at November 28, 2025 11:51 PM (xG4kz)
Yeah... skier here... there are ALWAYS tire chains in my vehicle... even in summer in a 4 wheel drive.
Just part of the kit, like having jumper cables and basic tools.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 28, 2025 11:53 PM (mP0Kj)
Posted by: mot at November 28, 2025 11:54 PM (fIPNY)
263
I remember when my brother and uncle wanted to go on the Tilt a whirlwind. We were 8 and 10 and my mom wouldn't let us go on alone. She made my dad go on it with us. He was really green when he got off, just a light shade of green. He couldn't stand up and threw up everywhere. I really think my mom did it on purpose. She was evil.
Posted by: Megthered at November 28, 2025 11:54 PM (3TRNo)
264It literally feels like my brain is shutting off and I'm blacking out. From just a little spin.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 28, 2025 11:50 PM (3uBP9)
You'll never make it in politics if you can only do 'a little spin'.
Posted by: RickZ at November 28, 2025 11:54 PM (gKDq2)
265
I remember when my brother and uncle wanted to go on the Tilt a whirlwind. . . .
Posted by: Megthered
Ah yes - the Tilt-a-Hurl. . .
Posted by: Tonypete at November 28, 2025 11:55 PM (cYBz/)
266
250 The selenium rectifier is said to be a weak spot, if it works that might be unusual, I don’t know.
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Flux capacitor > selenium rectifier
Posted by: Doc Brown at November 28, 2025 11:50 PM (dyewR)
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What about reversing the polarity of the neutron flow?
270
One of the brand names most used was Vom-a-Sorb.
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Okay, here we go.
Retch-B-Gone?
Barfkeepers Friend?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 28, 2025 11:55 PM (dyewR)
271
LOL... growing up, we had the three seat Pontiac station wagon, with the back seat facing backwards...
My two sisters ALWAYS got to ride in the middle seat while me and Bro had to sit all the way in back... why?
Supposedly my two sisters both got car sick... but funny... never remember them GETTING car sick.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 28, 2025 11:56 PM (mP0Kj)
272
Hmmm... Bessent... Sec Treasury? says they will no longer give Illegal Aliens benefits under the Income Tax system... ie... illegals don't get child care rebates and such.
Which means... they will have to put in place a way to distinguish citizens, vice Legal, vice illegal, people.
About damn time
Posted by: Romeo13
Fake / forged SSNs would be a big red flag
Only legal immigrants can get a legit SSN.
Illegals often use a Taxpayer ID. Which has legit purposes but child tax credits would not be one.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 28, 2025 11:56 PM (Z5/Ih)
273
Up in Maryland, there is some thoroughfares known as “Father Hurley Boulevard.”
So, back in the day when I still did such things, I would refer to vomiting from a hangover as “confessing to Father Hurley:”
Posted by: Bulg at November 28, 2025 11:57 PM (77rzZ)
Brands like Nilodor, Big D, or Medafor made similar versions, but to millions of former schoolkids, that exact cloying, fake-cherry-sawdust scent is instantly recognizable as “the puke powder smell.” Even today, if you open a bucket of modern vomit absorbent (like Fresh Products “Vom du Jour” or “Absorb”, that same unmistakable aroma hits you and you’re suddenly eight years old again, standing in the cafeteria while the janitor sweeps up Tommy’s spaghetti.
AI can be wonderful.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 28, 2025 11:57 PM (cYBz/)
275
From my local news rhis morning. TX is apparently cracking down on illegals' ability to register cars. The usual suspects are crying that now the 'undocumented' won't be able to drive 'legally'.
Get them off the road. I'm sick of hearing of another person killed by one of the precious 'undocumenteds'.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 28, 2025 11:57 PM (ys6FW)
276
253 They have some type of material they spread on dance floors . I remember that because I swept it up when I was a kid working at the American Legion hall.
Posted by: the way I see
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Saw dust.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 28, 2025 11:57 PM (Zz+7G)
277
Motion doesn’t do anything to me. Spinning, twisting, up, down, sideways, all good.
It’s just the sound.
Nope.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 28, 2025 11:58 PM (mT+6a)
278
264 I remember when my brother and uncle wanted to go on the Tilt a whirlwind. We were 8 and 10 and my mom wouldn't let us go on alone. She made my dad go on it with us. He was really green when he got off, just a light shade of green. He couldn't stand up and threw up everywhere. I really think my mom did it on purpose. She was evil.
Posted by: Megthered at November 28, 2025 11:54 PM (3TRNo)
Me and my best friend in our early 40's, with my twins, then 10...
Disneyland... Teacups... people running the ride actually asked my kids if they were OK when we got off.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 28, 2025 11:58 PM (mP0Kj)
279 It was 32F by 7PM here, and now it's below 27F right at midnight. Stupid arctic air.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 29, 2025 12:00 AM (w6EFb)
280Tossing cookies
Puke
Chunder (from our friends down under)
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 28, 2025 11:50 PM
Laugh at the ground.
Posted by: toby928(c) at November 29, 2025 12:00 AM (jc0TO)
281
“Technicolor Yawn”
“Tossing Your Cookies”
“Praying to the Porcelain Goddess”
"Baptizing the bushes."
Posted by: Delurker at November 29, 2025 12:01 AM (NhiOW)
282
Some Mr. T looking bad ass got on a plane in Columbia, SC and started trash taking some people. An elderly brother got up after takeoff and told him to can it.
We hit some turbulence on the way to ATL and the next thing you know this guy is loudly barfing his guts out into the bag.
People were laughing.
Posted by: pawn at November 29, 2025 12:02 AM (sPsWv)
283
Cafeteria kids didn't throw up. Must have been the food.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 12:03 AM (Zz+7G)
284
Banana Dream - yep the spinney spinney thing happened to me too. I remember being a youngster didn’t bother me at all and then somewhere on the way through life stomach said Nope, we ain’t gonna do that no more.
I remember being at an amusement park with friends and one of them threw up inside the tea cup while it was spinning and others in it with him.
Damn that was an LOL mess!
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 12:03 AM (3U2FH)
285 NASA found out that space sickness and earthly bound motion sickness are two different things, and the one doesn't imply the other.
Some poor guy, whose space-sickness was so bad they named the scale after him, did not suffer any motion sickness on earth at all. He was a fighter pilot, and did all sorts of maneuvers there with no problem at all. But he got in zero-g, and he was useless.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 29, 2025 12:03 AM (w6EFb)
286
Disneyland... Teacups... people running the ride actually asked my kids if they were OK when we got off.
Posted by: Romeo13
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My sweet Grandmother rode the teacups at Disneyworld. She felt unwell afterwards, but rode the shuttle all the way back to our lodging before getting sick. She was a tough lady.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 29, 2025 12:03 AM (ys6FW)
287
These euphemisms for “vomiting” are cracking me up,
Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025 12:04 AM (77rzZ)
288
288 These euphemisms for “vomiting” are cracking me up,
Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025 12:04 AM (77rzZ)
They're making me sick.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 29, 2025 12:05 AM (0CU3H)
289
Candace Owens claims the White House has acknowledged her statements about Macron organizing her assassination. If she's right, a lot of people, including Ace, will owe her a massive apology... And owe themselves a long stare into the mirror.
Posted by: Redwhiteandtrue at November 29, 2025 12:06 AM (VlOsR)
290
289 288 These euphemisms for “vomiting” are cracking me up,
Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025 12:04 AM (77rzZ)
They're making me sick.
Posted by: Darrell Harris
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Has anyone blown chunks yet?
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 29, 2025 12:06 AM (ys6FW)
291
"Some poor guy, whose space-sickness was so bad they named the scale after him, did not suffer any motion sickness on earth at all."
That wouldn't be "Barfin Jake" Garn would it?
Yes, he's kind of famous in the aerospace world.
Posted by: pawn at November 29, 2025 12:07 AM (sPsWv)
292
269 How many sang the Comet song as a kid ?
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 11:55 PM (KDPiq)
Wow. That brings back memories.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 29, 2025 12:10 AM (0CU3H)
293
The United States did not attend the G20 in South Africa, because the South African Government refuses to acknowledge or address the horrific Human Right Abuses endured by Afrikaners, and other descendants of Dutch, French, and German settlers. To put it more bluntly, they are killing white people, and randomly allowing their farms to be taken from them. Perhaps, worst of all, the soon to be out of business New York Times and the Fake News Media won’t issue a word against this genocide. That’s why all the Liars and Pretenders of the Radical Left Media are going out of business! At the conclusion of the G20, South Africa refused to hand off the G20 Presidency to a Senior Representative from our U.S. Embassy, who attended the Closing Ceremony. Therefore, at my direction, South Africa will NOT be receiving an invitation to the 2026 G20, which will be hosted in the Great City of Miami, Florida next year. South Africa has demonstrated to the World they are not a country worthy of Membership anywhere, and we are going to stop all payments and subsidies to them, effective immediately.
Thank you for your attention to this matter!
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 12:11 AM (Zz+7G)
294
Technicolor Yawn
Tossing Your Cookies
Praying to the Porcelain Goddess
Buick, Yak, Hurl, Spew,
Upchuck, Ralph, Puke, Chunder
Laugh at the ground
Baptize the bushes...
That's... that's about it.
--Bubba
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 12:11 AM (rdVOm)
295
>> That wouldn't be "Barfin Jake" Garn would it?
That's him, I couldn't even think of the name.
I think even those that get really sick rarely go over 0.1 Garns.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 29, 2025 12:12 AM (w6EFb)
296 I've been down in the wrong thread wondering why no one was talking.
Good evening, all.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 29, 2025 12:12 AM (n7rxJ)
297 The Vomit Comet didn't faze Garn at all. He was just fine. But once he got into orbit, it was terrible.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 29, 2025 12:14 AM (w6EFb)
298
Comet!
It makes your mouth turn green!
Comet!
It smells like listerene!
Comet!
It makes you vomit!
So have some comet and vomit
Today!
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 29, 2025 12:14 AM (mT+6a)
299
Blonde, it has become a barf thread. You haven't missed so much, lol.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 29, 2025 12:14 AM (ys6FW)
Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025 12:14 AM (77rzZ)
301
All those barf-euphemisms are a natural succession to OVEREATING, such as occurs on a day like *yesterday* LOL.
Also, VOm is half of my hash...
fml
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 12:15 AM (rdVOm)
302
If you need to puke, puke. You will feel much better for it.
-- stuff Mao said but didn't get written down
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 12:17 AM (rdVOm)
303
French ships Strasbourg, Colbert, Algérie, and Marseillaise burning in Toulon harbor, France, 28 Nov 1942; photo taken by a RAF aircraft
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Classic, FAFO.
https://tinyurl.com/3ux6k6td
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 12:18 AM (Zz+7G)
304
JQ, as the ONT Bartender, you've seen things. You are appreciated.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 29, 2025 12:18 AM (ys6FW)
305
I have never heard Technicolor Yawn, Laugh at the ground or Baptize the Bushes for throwing up.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 12:18 AM (zMLZ6)
306
Farm store had Cinnamon Bears! Hadn't had those since I was a little kid! Joy! Yes, I bought a package.
Uh.. they weren't as good as I remembered.
*sigh*
Too bad.
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 12:19 AM (rdVOm)
307
Pavel Durov, founder of Telegram, also supports Candace's statement When it comes to the intelligence community, silence equals confirmation. It means machine-speed information is outpacing government-speed secrecy. The elitist control over narratives is breaking. Keep your powder dry.
Posted by: Redwhiteandtrue at November 29, 2025 12:20 AM (VlOsR)
308
I've heard stories about the maintenance workers at Space Mountain having to mask up when they went to clean up and pick up all the ejected items in the off-hours when the ride was shut down.
They find a surprising amount of pretty valuable stuff.
Posted by: pawn at November 29, 2025 12:20 AM (sPsWv)
309 I had always heard that Jefferson was the one to write the Declaration pretty much becaise the committe left the scut work to the nerd. Adams did say Jefferson was a better writer than he was, but he was still the low man on the totem pole and got stuck with chores while the others went out to party. (Okay, Adams didn't exactly party, but he had better things to do than waste his time dipping a quill into an inkwell.)
Posted by: tankdemon
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I knew a Tom Paine freak who made a good case via linguistic analysis that Paine wrote the Declaration.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 29, 2025 12:21 AM (n7rxJ)
310
JQ, as the ONT Bartender, you've seen things. You are appreciated.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary
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*groan*
Girl, I've seen stuff I will not try to explain and hope to never see again as long as I live.
And that was *before* I started playing (I won't call it "working" LOL) here!
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 12:21 AM (rdVOm)
311
290 Candace Owens claims the White House has acknowledged her statements about Macron organizing her assassination”
Yeah that claim got Community Noted on X. What happened (if I understand right) is that Candace herself sent this claim to the White House, and someone on staff there said “yeah we got her stupid letter.”
Not quite the earthshaking bombshell she makes it out to be.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 12:22 AM (3U2FH)
312All those barf-euphemisms are a natural succession to OVEREATING, such as occurs on a day like *yesterday* LOL.
Also, VOm is half of my hash...
fml
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 12:15 AM (rdVOm)
Last time I puked it was from Little Caesar's Pizza
Time before that was from me not cleaning the grinder before grinding chicken
Before that was mishandled bibimbap.
the time before that was Chinese food from the low-end Chinese restaurant.
Nothing like food poisoning to make you try to puke up your toenails.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 12:23 AM (rbvCR)
313 Mr. Rogers routinely used his Marine sniper skills to clear his neighborhood of riff raff
Posted by: _.-=* The More You Know at November 29, 2025 12:23 AM (ER5Yp)
314
*Sends 2 drones: With pitcher of Spicy Margaritas on one, and glasses on the other, to The Wobbly Table!*
Cheers!
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 12:23 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 29, 2025 12:24 AM (ys6FW)
317
"someone on staff there said “yeah we got her stupid letter.”
Sounds correct.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 12:24 AM (zMLZ6)
318
They find a surprising amount of pretty valuable stuff.
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There was an episode of the English Antiques Road Show that featured a couple that had managed a garbage dump for years. The were showing off some of the things they found. Some of it was quite valuable.
Posted by: clarence at November 29, 2025 12:25 AM (GE9Fw)
Posted by: Bulg at November 29, 2025 12:26 AM (77rzZ)
322
I knew a Tom Paine freak who made a good case via linguistic analysis that Paine wrote the Declaration.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 29, 2025 12:21 AM (n7rxJ)
The problem with that theory is that everyone who knew them both at the time agreed that Jefferson wrote it, and nobody ever challenged that. Jefferson was certainly very familiar with Paine’s writing, so it’s not surprising that he would use some of his phrases.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 29, 2025 12:26 AM (3U2FH)
323
I see Chief Justice John Robert's boyfriend, James Boasberg, is reviving his attempt to hold Trump officials in criminal contempt for daring to deport illegal alien gang members.
Why is Roberts using Boasberg as a stalking horse to harass Trump? Because that's what the Deep State/Uniparty wants.
Pray for America. Pray that these corrupt, black-robed thugs are revealed and defeated. This cannot continue.
Posted by: Sam Adams at November 29, 2025 12:28 AM (X+xvk)
324
I almost Candace Owens’d all over the floor.
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This is a vomit thread. What comes out of Owens is from the other end.
Posted by: clarence at November 29, 2025 12:29 AM (GE9Fw)
325Candie Owens, "Look at MEEE!!!!"
Posted by: pawn at November 29, 2025 12:24 AM (sPsWv)
Macron's spouse could prove sex via a cheek swab. I find it odd this has not been done in spite of all the nasty letters and accusations and countersuits.
Of course you would need a full genetic workup to determine if Macron's spouse is also his father, so I doubt we will get that info.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 12:29 AM (rbvCR)
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 29, 2025 12:31 AM (mT+6a)
327
Why does anyone care about Macron's wife? No one seems to care about Obama's.
Posted by: clarence at November 29, 2025 12:32 AM (GE9Fw)
328
>>>The problem with that theory is that everyone who knew them both at the time agreed that Jefferson wrote it, and nobody ever challenged that. Jefferson was certainly very familiar with Paine’s writing, so it’s not surprising that he would use some of his phrases.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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And that he had previously written something very similar for Virginia.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 12:33 AM (Zz+7G)
329
Posted by: Kindltot at November 29, 2025 12:29 AM (rbvCR)
You snark but I bet these conspiracy freaks have already collected DNA by any number of means and refuse to believe the results
Posted by: the way I see it at November 29, 2025 12:34 AM (KDPiq)
330
This is a vomit thread. What comes out of Owens is from the other end.
Posted by: clarence
You are right! What an embarrassing confusion.
Posted by: QED Texan Grandpa-to-be at November 29, 2025 12:34 AM (sSwOV)
331
Did anyone else venture out to do any kind of shopping today?
I don't mean for "black friday" deals, I mean just going to do regular stuff, besides grocery.
Went to Hdespot today, because I wanted some extra shop vac hose. Waited until afternoon, hoping to avoid the crowds.
Not bad! Got what I needed. Store was busy but not too crowded.
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 12:34 AM (rdVOm)
332
Just saw a Ralph's ad on TV. I'm in Indiana. No Ralph's here. They usually tailor the ads.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 29, 2025 12:35 AM (pkeXY)
Posted by: Sam Adams at November 29, 2025 12:36 AM (X+xvk)
334
Does anyone ever wonder about someone, whose never read this blog, reading it from bottom to top?
This one would be a good initiation to Moron Speak.
I only understand it because I read Moron off and on for decades. I honestly don't recall, like a Clinton, when I first appeared in the past. Then popped up like a demented gopher last year.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 29, 2025 12:37 AM (WONhk)
335
Posted by: clarence at November 29, 2025 12:32 AM (GE9Fw)
I don't think either of them were males at some time, so no, I don't care about that. There is much to criticize Michelle Obama about as far as her air of aggrieved entitlement . Tacjking on that she's a male just tends to negate the former criticisms.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 12:37 AM (zMLZ6)
336
JQ, I did not go out today. We didn't need anything. Tomorrow, I shall venture out to the pizza place because I have a coupon and am tired of leftovers.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 29, 2025 12:38 AM (ys6FW)
337
I don't think being seasick counts in my life list of harfing. Because I did it in the Gulf and my entire male family were below deck as they were sick as well. I preferred the open air and almost drowning, because none of my family at that point cared.
When the waves are over your head and you then go into a trough, that's amore. Only time I was motion sick.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at November 29, 2025 12:41 AM (WONhk)
338 I see Airbus has issued a critical warning that about 6000 A320s have an "issue" with the flight control system getting corrupted data due to severe solar storms.
A Jet Blue flight from Cancun to Newark suddenly dropped a few thousand feet on Oct. 30. Radiation corrupted avionics data.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 29, 2025 12:44 AM (w6EFb)
339
Just saw a Ralph's ad on TV. I'm in Indiana. No Ralph's here. They usually tailor the ads.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 29, 2025 12:35 AM (pkeXY)
For a year, there was a billboard ad just outside Boise, Idaho, urging folks driving on the interstate to visit an aviation museum in Florida.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 29, 2025 12:45 AM (8QVSJ)
340
There is much to criticize Michelle Obama about as far as her air of aggrieved entitlement . Tacjking on that she's a male just tends to negate the former criticisms.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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This is true. She is a spoiled and entitled woman who rose to fame on the coattails of of a husband she hates, representing a country she hates. I don't like her and never have, but don't think she's a man. She's just a jerk.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 29, 2025 12:46 AM (ys6FW)
341
@312 If they accepted her report, that means they accepted for scrutiny, and didn't reject it. *IF* it ends up being legit, will you change your tune?
Posted by: Redwhiteandtrue at November 29, 2025 12:46 AM (VlOsR)
342
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 29, 2025 12:46 AM (ys6FW)
Yes, indeed .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 29, 2025 12:47 AM (zMLZ6)
343
> The selenium rectifier is said to be a weak spot
There's a highly memorable smell when one of those cooks off. Toxic, too, I guess, though I never noticed any particular ill effects.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 29, 2025 12:48 AM (IG3/x)
344
For a year, there was a billboard ad just outside Boise, Idaho, urging folks driving on the interstate to visit an aviation museum in Florida.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy
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Wild. I thought the Buc-ees billboards for a store 300 miles away were over the top.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 29, 2025 12:52 AM (ys6FW)
345
I may venture out to wallyworld and/or costco tomorrow-- need to get some things for hubby.
Heh. I *knew better* than to try going either place *today* but wonder if tomorrow will be any better? Will see, I guess.
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 12:52 AM (rdVOm)
346
All trolls are Average Joe, and Average Joe sucks cocks, by choice. It's canon here.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 12:52 AM (npFr7)
347
Silver trading was shut down for an hour last night on the Comex. The excuse used was "a cooling issue on the servers". That is an absolute bag of flaming dog shit on your front porch of an excuse. What actually happened is that the Comex saw that banks were going to lose their asses on their short positions because the spot price of silver was exploding, and the shut down was to allow the banks some time to cover their shorts.
Silver spot price as of right now is $56.67 per oz. That is 4 each pre-1965 quarters plus 4 each pre-1965 dimes. $1.40 face value. That makes each silver dime worth > $4.00 and each silver quarter > $10.00.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at November 29, 2025 12:55 AM (Da7Vv)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 29, 2025 12:56 AM (pkeXY)
349
There's a highly memorable smell when one of those cooks off. Toxic, too, I guess, though I never noticed any particular ill effects.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 29, 2025 12:48 AM (IG3/x)
Yes. Selenium rectifiers are now considered to be bad juju, because of the highly toxic fumes emitted when the magic smoke gets out. I will most likely replace the selenium in the aforementioned T/O with a silicon diode or diode bridge. A little less voltage drop, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 12:56 AM (npFr7)
350
Wild. I thought the Buc-ees billboards for a store 300 miles away were over the top.
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 29, 2025 12:52 AM (ys6FW)
Wall Drug was famous for signs promoting it located hundreds of miles away, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 12:57 AM (npFr7)
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary at November 29, 2025 01:00 AM (ys6FW)
353 Silver trading was shut down for an hour last night on the Comex. The excuse used was "a cooling issue on the servers". That is an absolute bag of flaming dog shit on your front porch of an excuse.
https://youtu.be/LJBZmuv7FtQ
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 29, 2025 01:02 AM (pkeXY)
Any time I visit, he's so happy. Wish I had time to be there more!
Wish I could bring him home!!!! (alas...)
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 01:02 AM (rdVOm)
355
Technicolor Yawn
Tossing Your Cookies
Praying to the Porcelain Goddess
Buick, Yak, Hurl, Spew,
Upchuck, Ralph, Puke, Chunder
Laugh at the ground
Baptize the bushes...
That's... that's about it.
--Bubba
You left out heave... but around these parts it's a dry heave.
Posted by: Guy from Arizona at November 29, 2025 01:03 AM (r6f6k)
Posted by: gp at November 29, 2025 01:04 AM (4kcNT)
357
I just opened a 12 pack of Diet Coke, and I got a free Chick Tract inside. This one is about a family of disgusting slobs at Thanksgiving. Most of them go to Hell in the penultimate frame.
Posted by: gp at November 29, 2025 01:06 AM (4kcNT)
358
That inertia video was pure Darwinism in action. This is why you check your load before you drive.
Posted by: pookysgirl has unloaded semis before at November 29, 2025 01:08 AM (Wt5PA)
359
Crossing a couple of tonight's themes, how many of those cities have you barfed in?
🤢🤮
360
>>>When the waves are over your head and you then go into a trough, that's amore. Only time I was motion sick.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat
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We got caught up in something like that on our way in. Fished that bay forever and this was new. Coming in about 2AM and the swells. When we at the bottom of the trough it was walls of water. 'Come on baby, you can get on top of this'.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 01:15 AM (Zz+7G)
Posted by: Barfin' Johnny Cash at November 29, 2025 01:16 AM (w6EFb)
362
Warning: This is just an awful report of the psychotic women shouting murderous slogans in front of a synagogue. It also has some plausible reasons for it, aside from they're "Just " Anti semetic lunatics
"Legal Insurrection" site :
https://tinyurl.com/p8539zpp
I'll try to post something more upbeat in the tech or prayer thread. If Im around
Good night , all
Posted by: FenelonSpije at November 29, 2025 01:18 AM (07Dw1)
363
Wall Drug was famous for signs promoting it located hundreds of miles away, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 12:57 AM (npFr7)
Was?! Still is. Heck, we've got one in our town and we're in another state.
Posted by: pookysgirl went past there twice last month at November 29, 2025 01:18 AM (Wt5PA)
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at November 29, 2025 01:19 AM (Da7Vv)
365
>>>Heh. I *knew better* than to try going either place *today* but wonder if tomorrow will be any better? Will see, I guess.
Posted by: JQ
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Find out the time of the big game in your area. That's the time to venture out.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 01:20 AM (Zz+7G)
366 Another spectacular shot from Andew McCarthy, this time a large area of sky around Andromeda (M31).
https://is.gd/r5MlmE
That's 350 hours of stacked exposure time. All that structure is out there, just very faint, and it takes a long time (or a yuge telescope) to gather the light to see it.
Posted by: Barfin' Johnny Cash at November 29, 2025 01:22 AM (w6EFb)
367
Watching the Family Plan movie with Mark Whalberg, and discovered that Marky Mark has a third nipple. Not sure how I feel about this information. But talk about a funky bunch.
Movie is not terrible, set design and cinematography surprisingly stylish.
Posted by: LizLem at November 29, 2025 01:22 AM (gWBY1)
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 29, 2025 01:26 AM (6KcYW)
369
364 Wall Drug was famous for signs promoting it located hundreds of miles away, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 12:57 AM (npFr7)
Was?! Still is. Heck, we've got one in our town and we're in another state.
Posted by: pookysgirl went past there twice last month at November 29, 2025 01:18 AM (Wt5PA)
There’s a sign pointing there in Barrow, AK.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 29, 2025 01:27 AM (6KcYW)
370
Tomorrow evening will be tree-decorating time!
Got the lil tree out, and the new wooden ornaments & the laser-cut ones that neighbors gave last year. Just enough for that lil tree.
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 01:31 AM (rdVOm)
Any time I visit, he's so happy. Wish I had time to be there more!
Wish I could bring him home!!!! (alas...)
Posted by: JQ at
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If our economic system wasn't such that we pay able bodied people not to work you could afford to bring him home.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 01:32 AM (Zz+7G)
372
Well, 2330 here, and I am getting sleepy. Night, Horde.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 01:32 AM (npFr7)
373
Silver trading was shut down for an hour last night on the Comex. The excuse used was "a cooling issue on the servers". That is an absolute bag of flaming dog shit on your front porch of an excuse.
"It's a big club, but you ain't in it."
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 29, 2025 01:33 AM (8QVSJ)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 29, 2025 01:35 AM (snZF9)
375
144 Nobody at the gym should be wearing a bra and panties as outerwear especially fat chicks. When did clothes become optional? When are dudes going to show up in banana hammocks? It boggles.
Posted by: NCKate at November 28, 2025 10:59 PM (sYdt/)
People at the store where I work have zero shame about showing up here like they just got out of bed. Pajamas, housecoats, house slippers, etc.
A bunch of bums and slobs.
Posted by: Cow Demon at November 29, 2025 01:35 AM (6KcYW)
376
Wall Drug was famous for signs promoting it located hundreds of miles away, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 29, 2025 12:57 AM (npFr7)
Mrs B was on a business trip to the netherlands. On street post/lightpole was a sign, 7800 miles to walldrug SD. She took a picture.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 29, 2025 01:37 AM (snZF9)
377
If our economic system wasn't such that we pay able bodied people not to work you could afford to bring him home.
Posted by: Braenyard
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Yeah. And if every fktarded numbnuts didn't think they deserved $20/hr, semi-skilled laborers wouldn't be demanding $40/hr to change diapers, help with household chores and give baths...
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 01:38 AM (rdVOm)
378 We've entered the window of earliest sunset here at ~35N, 5:17PM. For the next 12 days, sunset time will be in the 5:17PM minute, with earliest technically on Dec. 5th. Sunrise time will get later by 10 minutes during that window, though.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 29, 2025 01:41 AM (w6EFb)
379
303 If you need to puke, puke. You will feel much better for it.
-- stuff Mao said but didn't get written down
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 12:17 AM (rdVOm)
Go to Xinjiang Province and fix tractors,
Posted by: Mao at November 29, 2025 01:41 AM (6KcYW)
Yeah. And if every fktarded numbnuts didn't think they deserved $20/hr, semi-skilled laborers wouldn't be demanding $40/hr to change diapers, help with household chores and give baths...
Posted by: JQ
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That's part of how changing the dole system works. All those people at home eating Doritoes will, now, be competing with the Dodo's that think they are worth $20 for a job which will drive to price of unskilled labor down.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 01:45 AM (Zz+7G)
382
41. I’ve got to get out more. Not sure what I could do to visit Milwaukee. Lambeau is not far from there?
Posted by: Pete Bog at November 29, 2025 01:47 AM (lp7gs)
383
That's part of how changing the dole system works. All those people at home eating Doritoes will, now, be competing with the Dodo's that think they are worth $20 for a job which will drive to price of unskilled labor down.
Posted by: Braenyard
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Heh. Very little comfort in *that*-- I don't want any of THOSE PEOPLE in MY house!!!
Hubby gets better care, right where he is. A 24/7 team, not just the *one person* I could barely afford at home, for maybe one shift per day.
If not for the dementia, I could handle his issues myself.
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 01:50 AM (rdVOm)
384
Truck driver didn't slap the strap holding down the load and then declare "That ain't going nowhere!"
Posted by: JB1000 at November 29, 2025 01:52 AM (G/zBl)
Heh. Very little comfort in *that*-- I don't want any of THOSE PEOPLE in MY house!!!
Hubby gets better care, right where he is. A 24/7 team, not just the *one person* I could barely afford at home, for maybe one shift per day.
If not for the dementia, I could handle his issues myself.
Posted by: JQ at November 2
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That's true today, but that will change with time. Integrity and responsibility is cultural and LBJ ultimately destroyed that. But cutting off the dole and having them compete will drive down the cost of entry level jobs. The plumber's helper. the gofer, McDonld's help and the cream - the trainee.
Competition will drive down entry level job cost thus driving down the overall cost of crafts, skills, and trades. We will benefit by less costly bills from these blue collar areas at the same time the culture of sloth will be attrited. It will be a benefit to everyone.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 02:01 AM (Zz+7G)
386If they accepted her report, that means they accepted for scrutiny, and didn't reject it. *IF* it ends up being legit, will you change your tune?
Of course. And if pigs start flying, I will accept that I need to walk around under a big, strong umbrella to protect myself from the falling shit. What's your point?
Posted by: Weirddave at November 29, 2025 02:03 AM (df/te)
387
Neighbors down the road, a retired couple, noticed that I'm behind on my yard work. Suggested that their grandson & his wife are available for hire... at $40/hr for both to work.
No thanks. Only need one, not two, and I've seen how they "work"... Lah dee dah & doo dee doo... taking their sweet everlovin' time... Nope! Grandma and Grandpa might let it slide, but I'd be a freaking slave driver by comparison.
I don't wish to alienate my good neighbors, LOL. They can overpay their grandkids all day long-- I need WORKERS, not slackers.
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 02:06 AM (rdVOm)
388
Too many people don't understand what work is.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 02:11 AM (Zz+7G)
389
Too many people don't understand the word, No.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 29, 2025 02:12 AM (Zz+7G)
390
Too many people don't understand what work is.
Posted by: Braenyard
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Yup!
We've hired contractors for various jobs here-- concrete floor for the shop, tree removal, etc.
All cost a pretty penny, but all were very hard workers. It was my pleasure to provide cold water & Gatorade-type stuff for them. For the all-day jobs, I'd make Club Sandwiches for lunch and snacks at break times.
One time, half the tree crew showed up early, waiting for the boss & remaining crew-- so I cooked breakfast for them.
I do not mind treating employees *right*-- as long as they reciprocate.
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 02:17 AM (rdVOm)
391
Good evening all. Lying here , waiting for the snow to start. Now to read all the wonderful content.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 29, 2025 02:19 AM (/J488)
392
Ruff n tuff outdoor Cat, cracks me up... It's just now freezing out there, so he's decided to snooze on the couch. LOL. He's no dummy!
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 02:35 AM (rdVOm)
393
JM in Illinois, hope you don't get queasy, reading all the barf comments. LOL.
Blame WD and that 'kid with turkey' video!
How's your night going?
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 02:46 AM (rdVOm)
394
To many people don't understand quantum mechanics.
Posted by: cat in a box at November 29, 2025 02:46 AM (cPbyj)
395
Just did the sober cab thing here. Kid is sober, others...not so much. Ahhhh, youth
Posted by: scampydog at November 29, 2025 02:49 AM (41CYW)
396
(Okay, Adams didn't exactly party, but he had better things to do than waste his time dipping a quill into an inkwell.)
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 10:20 PM (IxQNO)
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I think Benjamin Franklin had a reputation for keeping busy dipping his quill, IYKWIMAITYD.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 29, 2025 02:51 AM (WtVQs)
397 They don't tell,
They don't swell,
And they're grateful as hell!
--Benjamin Franklin
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 03:04 AM (rdVOm)
398
Ben Franklin gives me The Ick. Of the founding fathers, he was the one must likely to have a drug problem and date "dancers."
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 29, 2025 03:06 AM (SSEhk)
399
I'd guess that ol' Ben was most likely to have an STD.
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 03:10 AM (rdVOm)
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 03:12 AM (rdVOm)
401
I think Benjamin Franklin had a reputation for keeping busy dipping his quill, IYKWIMAITYD.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 29, 2025 02:51 AM (WtVQs)
We would know more if he could have taken selfies.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 29, 2025 03:13 AM (snZF9)
402
We would know more if he could have taken selfies.
Posted by: Berserker
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Ew!
Don't really want to know...
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 03:15 AM (rdVOm)
403
We would know more if he could have taken selfies.
Posted by: Berserker
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Ew!
Don't really want to know...
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 03:15 AM (rdVOm)
I couldn't imagine being a musician in that time. No drug laws, no gun laws, probably no drinking age, ol' Ben being the guide for the best area poon. Yeah, I wouldn't have survived. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 29, 2025 03:20 AM (snZF9)
I think musicians and entertainers were not as highly regarded back then, though...
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 03:25 AM (rdVOm)
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399 Ben Franklin gives me The Ick. Of the founding fathers, he was the one must likely to have a drug problem and date "dancers."
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 29, 2025 03:06 AM (SSEhk)
You say that like it is a bad thing...
Ben wrote both sides of debates... literally.
He helped define electricity.
He helped getting France to help us win the Revolution.
He defined the issues that led to the revolution.
Go read about him... he was a flawed, you superior, Man (IMO)
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 29, 2025 03:34 AM (mP0Kj)
I think musicians and entertainers were not as highly regarded back then, though...
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 03:25 AM (rdVOm)
Probably not, plus I hate violin, lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 29, 2025 03:37 AM (snZF9)
408
Ben was a very smart important man in this country's founding
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 03:41 AM (Ia/+0)
409
383 41. I’ve got to get out more. Not sure what I could do to visit Milwaukee. Lambeau is not far from there?
Posted by: Pete Bog at November 29, 2025 01:47 AM (lp7gs)
Brewers game. You can't go wrong with baseball, and they do the sausage race in the 7th.
Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 29, 2025 03:41 AM (6Bc88)
410
409 Ben was a very smart important man in this country's founding
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 03:41 AM (Ia/+0)
I expect he is an honorary moron.
Posted by: tcn, Pickle Queen in AK at November 29, 2025 03:42 AM (6Bc88)
411
I should try and hunt it down, but I remember a book/movie called "Ben and Me" where Ben Franklin had a talking mouse friend. I remember it being very charming. It sanitized Ben for the kiddos while not shying away from his flaws.
There was also a show, I think on History channel, that excavated Ben's old house in Boston and found a ton of bones buried under it. They don't think he was a secret serial killer. They think he got cadavers delivered to his house to illegally study, and then buried them under his house after.
One of the most fascinating founding fathers by a mile, and he had stiff competition.
Posted by: LizLem at November 29, 2025 03:42 AM (gWBY1)
Posted by: Skip at November 29, 2025 03:52 AM (Ia/+0)
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394 JM in Illinois, hope you don't get queasy, reading all the barf comments. LOL.
Blame WD and that 'kid with turkey' video!
How's your night going?
Posted by: JQ at November 29, 2025 02:46 AM (rdVOm)
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The night is going fine, thank you. And the kid was trying to help. A bit concerned about the morning; i couldn't get the snowblower working, and there's a hundred foot of alley to clear between me and civilization. Have food, won't be a Donner.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 29, 2025 03:55 AM (20pGq)
417 I should try and hunt it down, but I remember a book/movie called "Ben and Me" where Ben Franklin had a talking mouse friend. I remember it being very charming. It sanitized Ben for the kiddos while not shying away from his flaws.
I vaguely recall that "Ben and Me" was a Disney cartoon.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM} at November 29, 2025 03:58 AM (xG4kz)
Posted by: m at November 29, 2025 04:00 AM (RuTUS)
419
238 I have never barfed, harfed or hurled in public. I have fainted, which was embarrassing
Posted by: BarelyScaryMary
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I was "that kid" hanging out the car window on winding roads... Thanked God when Dramamine became available OTC!
Posted by: JQ at November 28, 2025 11:41 PM (rdVOm)
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After a long day in the community pool, I fainted right there in front of God and everybody -- I was doing the altar boy duties at church. Heard about that for a while
Posted by: JM in Illinois at November 29, 2025 04:03 AM (DOVS7)
420
FWIW, 41 cities I can confirm visiting. Plus Minn/St Paul airport which is the same as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by: actually inside the beltway at November 29, 2025 05:38 AM (+YRf1)
421
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Ontdek betrouwbare bronnen voor kwaliteit en privacy.
Posted by: Paco at November 28, 2025 07:37 PM (mADJX)
9
I don't care for cold and sure won't watch movies that make me cold. The Missing made me want to wrap up in two down comforters
Posted by: Ben Had at November 28, 2025 07:40 PM (sDNVV)
10
Clyde, that feels huge. Is it huge? Do we have a list of all the things that were autosigned that are supposedly now void? Does that means she cleans out her desk next week? Or will nothing happen?
Posted by: LizLem at November 28, 2025 07:40 PM (gWBY1)
11
"@JackPosobiec The appointment of Ketanji Brown Jackson was signed by autopen"
@WrestlerVillage
Confirmed by the Senate though. This won't work on her. Everything else Trump is voiding was a plenary power of Biden. Judges were a multi-step process.
Biden judges can only be gotten rid of by a Republican house with balls (which they don't have)."
Posted by: illiniwek at November 28, 2025 07:41 PM (vbXSk)
12
4 Saw a video recently that drinking Millennium age ice can have bacteria also a few Millennium old
Posted by: Skip
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A bacteria that our body is not equipped to deal with?
And it mutates in out gut. And, and it's scary thinking
about what it could do.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 28, 2025 07:41 PM (Zz+7G)
A very underrated movie is TransSiberian with Woody Harrelson.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 07:46 PM (KDPiq)
20
" The Way Back" goes from Siberian cold to desert hot in the course of the journey.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 28, 2025 07:47 PM (sDNVV)
21
>>>Bear picking off salmon as they climb a waterfall.
The crowd was not on the side of the salmon.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at November 28, 2025 07:48 PM (syz1S)
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Also, the Gundam Shop near me had a Black Friday Sale, picked up a Unicorn Gundam Master Grade for a nice discount.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 28, 2025 07:49 PM (XV/Pl)
23
Med tech: You're dead
Otter: My goodness, are you sure?
Med tech: let me . . . Nope, Nope, um . .
Otter: Is it permanent?
Med tech: Yeah, batteries . . .
Otter: Is this covered in my Major Medical?
Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2025 07:50 PM (rbvCR)
24
Also discovered you can enable vim bindings in the zsh shell.
Was one of those mind blown moments.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 28, 2025 07:50 PM (XV/Pl)
25
There is a herd of deer in my neighborhood, and no hunting near by
Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2025 07:50 PM (Ia/+0)
26
The Way Back" goes from Siberian cold to desert hot in the course of the journey.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 28, 2025 07:47 PM (sDNVV)
Coming Out of the Ice is a similar movie . John Ssvage and Willie Nelson. I think it was a made for TV movie. Very good.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 07:50 PM (KDPiq)
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21 >>>Bear picking off salmon as they climb a waterfall.
The crowd was not on the side of the salmon.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at November 28, 2025 07:48 PM (syz1S)
Bear has no need for a cedar plank.
Posted by: Eromero at November 28, 2025 07:51 PM (LHPAg)
28
This creature is a Maine blood worm, it’s teeth are made of copper
Remember to walk without rhythm...
Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2025 07:51 PM (YwEeS)
29
How far is Blackburn from Bolton Lancashire? Any holes there?
Posted by: Sgt Lemon Pepper at November 28, 2025 07:51 PM (mDKvs)
30Orlon is a good synthetic option to wool. It used to be everywhere. Don't know where, now.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 28, 2025 07:35 PM (Zz+7G)
Nomex glove liners and greased unlined rawhide gloves. Best of both worlds.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2025 07:54 PM (rbvCR)
31
Deadly Code. /Siberian Education with John Malkovich takes place in Siberia . I thought it was excellent and worth multiple viewings but rotten tomatoes gives it only 37%.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 07:55 PM (KDPiq)
32
Saw a video recently that drinking Millennium age ice can have bacteria also a few Millennium old
Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2025 07:35 PM (Ia/+0)\
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Sounds like the start of an X-Files episode...
Have to make pies for tomorrow night's Sausage Supper at Mr. S's church. I prepped for them when I made the T-giving ones- the difficulty will be keeping my mitts off them until I can grab a slice tomorrow evening.
Posted by: sal at November 28, 2025 07:57 PM (f+FmA)
The Thing
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 28, 2025 07:36 PM (3cPiL)
Absolutely! The original version* with James Arness as 'The Thing'. Back when we met problems head-on with a can-do attitude and without a lot of crybaby self-introspection and self second-guessing....
Watch the skies!!!
*I think there's a remake..
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 28, 2025 07:58 PM (QGaXH)
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Kindltot, Buffalo wool provides the most warmth I have ever had. Socks and gloves.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 28, 2025 07:58 PM (sDNVV)
Have to make pies for tomorrow night's Sausage Supper at Mr. S's church. I prepped for them when I made the T-giving ones- the difficulty will be keeping my mitts off them until I can grab a slice tomorrow evening.
Posted by: sal at November 28, 2025 07:57 PM (f+Fm
Excellent movie. May be my favorite of that genre. ( new world /trappers /indians)
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 07:59 PM (KDPiq)
41The appointment of Ketanji Brown Jackson was signed by autopen
He did say he was going to appoint a black woman and I doubt he cared much which one or if he could even tell one from another, so I'll give autopen a pass on this one. It was clearly following his intention.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 28, 2025 08:00 PM (3nLb4)
I'm white. Lack of rhythm comes naturally to my people.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at November 28, 2025 08:01 PM (lUFok)
43
10 Clyde, that feels huge. Is it huge? Do we have a list of all the things that were autosigned that are supposedly now void? Does that means she cleans out her desk next week? Or will nothing happen?
Posted by: LizLem at November 28, 2025 07:40 PM (gWBY1)
Betting Odds:
Cleans out desk: 1
Nothing Happens: 999,999
Remains Know-nothing skank b****: Infinity and then some...
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 28, 2025 08:01 PM (QGaXH)
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 28, 2025 07:36 PM (3cPiL)
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Doctor Zhivago. It has summer parts, but the winter sequences make you want to throw on a blanket.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 28, 2025 08:03 PM (sDNVV)
47
Biden judges can only be gotten rid of by a Republican house with balls (which they don't have)."
Posted by: illiniwek
Impeachment is in House, trial is in
Senate, and requires 60 votes.
Sounds great. Won't work without a 60 seat majority.
Posted by: MkY at November 28, 2025 08:04 PM (q6tQZ)
4826 The Way Back" goes from Siberian cold to desert hot in the course of the journey.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 28, 2025 07:47 PM (sDNVV)
I have not seen the movie, but have read the book on which it is based (The Long Walk, by Slavomir Rawicz). An astonishing story of perseverance against incredible odds.
Coming Out of the Ice is a similar movie . John Ssvage and Willie Nelson. I think it was a made for TV movie. Very good.
I did see that, and I liked it. I also read the book by the same name on which the movie is based (by Victor Herman).
Posted by: Paco at November 28, 2025 08:04 PM (mADJX)
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Excellent movie. May be my favorite of that genre. ( new world /trappers /indians)
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 07:59 PM (KDPiq)
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I remember watching it but don't remember anything about it.
"Last of the Mohicans" I own, because it rocks. Great film, and the director's cut actually makes it better. Also shorter. (The cut out the gay Clannad music video sequence.)
5032 Saw a video recently that drinking Millennium age ice can have bacteria also a few Millennium old
Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2025 07:35 PM (Ia/+0)\
How do we know that Eric the Red didn't piss in it?
Posted by: Paco at November 28, 2025 08:06 PM (mADJX)
51
I do wonder what procedure it would take to get a Comassar Judge tossed off the bench
Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2025 08:09 PM (Ia/+0)
That's a good one. From back before the Jesuits became commies.
Posted by: Paco at November 28, 2025 08:09 PM (mADJX)
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47 Biden judges can only be gotten rid of by a Republican house with balls (which they don't have)."
Posted by: illiniwek
Impeachment is in House, trial is in
Senate, and requires 60 votes.
Sounds great. Won't work without a 60 seat majority.
Posted by: MkY at November 28, 2025 08:04 PM (q6tQZ)
60 or 67? two thirds?
We've got to tempt her out with something manifestly better - extremely lucrative seat on corporate board, 500K/year no-show university or think tank job....anything...
I also wonder if Justice Thomas should think about retiring while we have a 'base' R president and favorable senate.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 28, 2025 08:09 PM (QGaXH)
54Kindltot, Buffalo wool provides the most warmth I have ever had. Socks and gloves.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 28, 2025 07:58 PM (sDNVV)
I throw a lot of firewood and cut out blackberry vines and brush, rough work that tears up my hands or my gloves, so I need something I can replace cheaply.
Last pair of gloves I had broken in right, I lost the left one kicking through some heavy thickets.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2025 08:09 PM (rbvCR)
55 How far is Blackburn from Bolton Lancashire? Any holes there?
Posted by: Sgt Lemon Pepper
They had to count them all.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 28, 2025 08:09 PM (pkeXY)
56
Shooting full oxygen tanks with various caliber rifles.
youtube.com/shorts/dvt5_w_XKJ0
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 28, 2025 08:09 PM (Zz+7G)
57
I do wonder what procedure it would take to get a Comassar Judge tossed off the bench
Posted by: Skip
District courts are a child of the Congress. The House could defund one (say the D.C. District) and spread the load to other courts.
Supremes are impeachment, retirement or death.
Posted by: MkY at November 28, 2025 08:11 PM (q6tQZ)
58
" The Last of the Mohicans" is visually the most incredible scenery with a plot.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 28, 2025 08:11 PM (sDNVV)
Posted by: MkY at November 28, 2025 08:12 PM (q6tQZ)
60Saw a video recently that drinking Millennium age ice can have bacteria also a few Millennium old
Cool! You can get diseases that today's immune systems forgot how to fight!
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 28, 2025 08:13 PM (rgGn5)
61
" The Last of the Mohicans" is visually the most incredible scenery with a plot.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 28, 2025 08:11 PM (sDNVV)
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Saw it in the theater. Mind. Blown.
Still holds up. Actually looks better because the Indians are actual people, not angelic beings gracing us with their wisdom.
You need a machete with a brush hook. Lets you toss the blackberries easie. We cleared a house on Hwy 14 in WA state that hadn't been lived in for ten years. Base of the blackberries were as big around as your wrist. We did it with machetes.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 28, 2025 08:17 PM (+mUZM)
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 28, 2025 08:19 PM (3cPiL)
71
'Imagine climbing Mt. Everest and seeing someone ski past you'
Imagine watching some shit-for-brains plummet into a bottomless crevice and thinking, "I'll bet that's why you don't see skiers on this mountain."
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 28, 2025 08:19 PM (fd80v)
72
Congress, 530 of the most ill suited people to their elected positions. There are 4 that are worth a shit.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 28, 2025 08:18 PM (sDNVV)
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This bunch is benign.
During the Civil War, Congressfolk would finagle commissions from their governor and become actual no-shit GENERALS.
73 Last of the Mohicans is the best Soundtrack of all-time.
But it's not a great movie. 6/10
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 28, 2025 08:20 PM (3cPiL)
74
60 Saw a video recently that drinking Millennium age ice can have bacteria also a few Millennium old
Cool! You can get diseases that today's immune systems forgot how to fight!
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at November 28, 2025 08:13 PM (rgGn5)
Could be the beginning of a pretty awesome sci-fi movie...
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 28, 2025 08:20 PM (QGaXH)
75
14 The only problem with Citizen Kane is you can only see it for the first time once.
It's like you can only hear JS Bach's Cello Suite only once.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 28, 2025 07:42 PM (XV/Pl)
So there is at least one upside to getting Alzheimer's.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 08:21 PM (IxQNO)
76 Indeed, didn't that snob, Samuel Clemens, publicly take a crap on Fennimore Cooper?
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 28, 2025 08:21 PM (3cPiL)
77 Clemens didn't think much of Cooper as a writer.
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 28, 2025 08:21 PM (3cPiL)
78
I see a headline of 130 dead in a residential high-rise fire in Hong Kong.
Terrible!
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 28, 2025 08:18 PM
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The were renovating buildings and used bamboo scaffolding and nylon mesh netting. May as well have smeared napalm on the exterior.
Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2025 08:25 PM (Ia/+0)
81
Indeed, didn't that snob, Samuel Clemens, publicly take a crap on Fennimore Cooper?
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 28, 2025 08:21 PM (3cPiL)
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"Fenimore Cooper's Literary Offenses." First American literary takedown. I read Last of the Mohicans and it was trash.
82
10 Clyde, that feels huge. Is it huge? Do we have a list of all the things that were autosigned that are supposedly now void? Does that means she cleans out her desk next week? Or will nothing happen?
Posted by: LizLem at November 28, 2025
Since she was confirmed, I am thinking she is there providing frustration to everyone else on the bench forever.
Posted by: Piper at November 28, 2025 08:25 PM (OoFl2)
83
An attempt to get rid of Jackson from the SC based on the autopen would lead to an epic shitstorm. If the economy keeps getting better , give it a try
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 28, 2025 08:25 PM (bfwj/)
84
I'm white. Lack of rhythm comes naturally to my people.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at November 28, 2025 08:01 PM (lUFok)
Speak for yourself.
Posted by: Gene Krupa at November 28, 2025 08:25 PM (IxQNO)
85
"The Last of the Mohicans" is visually the most incredible scenery with a plot.
Posted by: Ben Had
Also, Daniel Day Lewis and Madeleine Stowe had some real chemistry.
Posted by: Tuna at November 28, 2025 08:26 PM (lJ0H4)
86
Just fixed a bowl of 'Turkey mash' for my honey: Leftover turkey, mashed potatoes, corn and gravy over the entire mess nuked to perfection.
And my President lives just to piss off my enemies.
Is this the greatest country in the world or what?
Posted by: Tonypete at November 28, 2025 08:26 PM (cYBz/)
87
26 Coming Out of the Ice is a similar movie . John Ssvage and Willie Nelson. I think it was a made for TV movie. Very good.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 07:50 PM (KDPiq)
Willie Nelson still alive and kicking at age 92. He did a concert in AL last month.
Posted by: Joemarine at November 28, 2025 08:26 PM (y171U)
88
71 'Imagine climbing Mt. Everest and seeing someone ski past you'
Imagine watching some shit-for-brains plummet into a bottomless crevice and thinking, "I'll bet that's why you don't see skiers on this mountain."
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 28, 2025 08:19 PM (fd80v)
Friend of mine had just that experience - guy flew right over my friend and off a 1000 foot cliff.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 28, 2025 08:28 PM (QGaXH)
Posted by: William Faulkner at November 28, 2025 08:28 PM (3cPiL)
90
Fenimore Cooper was a rather boring writer. Hawthorne was better.
Michael Mann's Last of the Mohicans blows the book away for entertainment
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 28, 2025 08:28 PM (bfwj/)
91
Fenimore Cooper was an affirmative action hero before it technically existed. He was one of the first American novelists and the budding intelligentsia rallied around him because he was what we had.
But he was really, really bad. The big thing he had going for him (other than the family name) was that he was writing about the 'first' frontier and this made all the Easterner nostalgic and he was AMERICAN.
I mean, Twain had a point, but who here wouldn't like to see college faculty be ludicrously biased *in favor* of their country?
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47 Sounds great. Won't work without a 60 seat majority.
Posted by: MkY at November 28, 2025 08:04 PM (q6tQZ)
Considering the dedication and spine of some GOP Senstors, we'd need a 70 seat majority.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 08:28 PM (IxQNO)
93
The Robe, Dr Zhivago, great winter movies. Another one - Stalingrad - the 1993 German one, not the more recent Russian one.
It matches The Robe for brutality, and seems to be a fairly accurate snapshot of the final chapter for the 6th Army, culminating of course in desperate winter scenes.
Been a long time but seem to recall The Robe was a nice more plausible version of the historical events depicted than the usual fairy tales. Brutal, both nature, and man (including of course the horribly oppressed, dispossessed, and otherwise angelic Huron).
Posted by: rhomboid at November 28, 2025 08:28 PM (U/Byj)
94 Willie Nelson is a piece of shit. Willie can eat shit and croak.
Posted by: William Faulkner at November 28, 2025 08:29 PM (3cPiL)
95
I throw a lot of firewood and cut out blackberry vines and brush, rough work that tears up my hands or my gloves, so I need something I can replace cheaply.
Last pair of gloves I had broken in right, I lost the left one kicking through some heavy thickets.
Posted by: Kindltot
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I get these at local farm supply store, the 3pk runs about $23 now, but can sometimes find on sale for ~$20:
tinyurl.com/ekfhkrxk
Also available in fleece-lined, but I haven't priced those..
Posted by: JQ at November 28, 2025 08:30 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: man at November 28, 2025 08:30 PM (XuXeR)
97
So there is at least one upside to getting Alzheimer's.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 08:21 PM (IxQNO)
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My stepmother has no short term memory. She doesn't talk much now, but a couple of years ago she would ask the kids what they were up to, they'd answer, she'd react and then ask the same question again. They'd answer, she'd react the same way, and then after a pause, she'd ask the same question again.
98
I read Coopers LotM, it's a disaster
Posted by: Skip
The movie: same characters, different plot.
Posted by: Tuna at November 28, 2025 08:31 PM (lJ0H4)
99 I understand that all the fake "liberal" hollywood celeries have to "endorse" the Democrat, but kalama fucking harris??
Instead of sitting out the '24 election with their stupid endorsements, they went out of their to pretend harris was qualified. And they All would've endorsed biden, too.
I thought Jeff Bridges had more sense than that. Worse was Sam Elliott. Fuck. Them. All.
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 28, 2025 08:31 PM (3cPiL)
100
67
What's the movie with the plane crash and they eat their dead?
That's a nice feel-good Winter movie, yes?
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 28, 2025 08:18 PM (3cPiL)
Alive.
Based on actual events.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 08:32 PM (IxQNO)
Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2025 08:32 PM (Ia/+0)
102
Notsothoreau, I have found the best tool for blackberry thickets is one of those hooked linoleum knives.
Grab the cane, pull it taught, cut it as far in as you can by hooking it and pulling back to cut it, and then repeat. I might use a small folding saw if the canes get too thick at the base, but I have to cut in to where they are first.
then, once I have the base exposed by cutting all the canes, I use an Ames Razor Back trenching shovel to pop the root ball out. It is never easy.
I have used machetes and hedge trimmers but they are not really controllable. I hate blackberries.
Actually the best tool is a Cat to blade the thicket off, but that is not good in side yards and laurel hedges
Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2025 08:32 PM (rbvCR)
103
The Robe, Dr Zhivago, great winter movies. Another one - Stalingrad - the 1993 German one, not the more recent Russian one.
It matches The Robe for brutality, and seems to be a fairly accurate snapshot of the final chapter for the 6th Army, culminating of course in desperate winter scenes.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 28, 2025 08:28 PM (U/Byj)
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Being a German film, everyone dies.
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 28, 2025 08:34 PM (3cPiL)
105
I thought Jeff Bridges had more sense than that. Worse was Sam Elliott. Fuck. Them. All.
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 28, 2025 08:31 PM (3cPiL)
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Hostage videos. They want to keep working.
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 28, 2025 08:34 PM (3cPiL)
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No, that was Peter Jackson and his Scrubbing Bubbles of Death who made the Ride of the Rohirrm totally unnecessary.
If Theoden had been 15 minutes late, he could have just watched the Ghost Rider Army solve the whole problem.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 28, 2025 08:36 PM (mT+6a)
110
in real life at Stalingrad most of the Germans died too
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 28, 2025 08:36 PM (bfwj/)
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Not in the battle. In Soviet camps. But one wouldn't want to make a movie about that.
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 28, 2025 08:38 PM (3cPiL)
112
Well something like 90K German soldiers were alive to surrender at Stalingrad (many in horrendous near-death condition of course), and of those only around 5K emerged from captivity. So yep almost all died as a direct result of the battle and then the end stages in the pocket.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 28, 2025 08:39 PM (U/Byj)
113
You can't have a cavalry unit 50 ranks deep nose to tail, 1 horse goes down in a hole the 49 behind are all going down too.
Actually 2 behind, then the 4 behind them, and the 8 behind them and so on
Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2025 08:40 PM (Ia/+0)
114
I hope the skier going down Everest took all his garbage and equipment back DOWN with him too.
There’s an incredible amount of trash and abandoned stuff up there. It’s criminal.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 28, 2025 08:40 PM (mT+6a)
115
Last of the Bohicans would be a more timely novel.
Posted by: Ben Dover at November 28, 2025 08:41 PM (dIuJT)
116
My stepmother has no short term memory. She doesn't talk much now, but a couple of years ago she would ask the kids what they were up to, they'd answer, she'd react and then ask the same question again. They'd answer, she'd react the same way, and then after a pause, she'd ask the same question again.
Funny, but also sad.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
That describes my aunt to a T.
I don't know how bad my mother in law is. I didn't see her yesterday. She never came out of her room.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 28, 2025 08:42 PM (3k5hk)
117
There’s an incredible amount of trash and abandoned stuff up there. It’s criminal.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 28, 2025 08:40 PM (mT+6a)
Alaska unfortunately has that problem also. Snow covers a lot of dumps.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 08:43 PM (KDPiq)
Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2025 08:43 PM (Ia/+0)
119
118 nurse and bodies too
Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2025 08:43 PM (Ia/+0)
I have read that some of them are used as landmarks and navigational aids.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 08:45 PM (IxQNO)
120
Hubby's roommate passed away last night. He was 96-97? Didn't talk much & slept most of the time, but he was up for lunch in the dining room yesterday. His wife would visit often, staying all day on Sundays. We had many chats... such lovely people.
Godspeed, Frank. Bless you, Edna.
Posted by: JQ at November 28, 2025 08:46 PM (rdVOm)
121
Hey, tonight is a Weird Dave ONT night, isn't it? That means I get to look at a lot if funny pictures instead of trying to read difficult words.
I like Weird Dave ONT nights.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 08:48 PM (IxQNO)
122
I don't much care if Everest is a high-altitude dump. The only people who climb it are well to do ne'er to wells.
Posted by: 72 oz. bottle of Haterade at November 28, 2025 08:48 PM (EOI/y)
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120 Hubby's roommate passed away last night. He was 96-97? Didn't talk much & slept most of the time, but he was up for lunch in the dining room yesterday. His wife would visit often, staying all day on Sundays. We had many chats... such lovely people.
Godspeed, Frank. Bless you, Edna.
Posted by: JQ at November 28, 2025 08:46 PM (rdVOm)
I'll add a prayer for Frank and Edna tonight.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 08:50 PM (IxQNO)
Posted by: Bulg at November 28, 2025 08:50 PM (77rzZ)
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122 I don't much care if Everest is a high-altitude dump. The only people who climb it are well to do ne'er to wells.
Posted by: 72 oz. bottle of Haterade
Who should be fined and beaten for leaving all their refuse up on the mountain.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 28, 2025 08:50 PM (mT+6a)
126I don't care for cold and sure won't watch movies that make me cold. The Missing made me want to wrap up in two down comforters
Posted by: Ben Had at November 28, 2025 07:40 PM
Remember what it says in the good book:
Many are cold, but few are frozen.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 28, 2025 08:50 PM (0sNs1)
127
Dad was a Korea-era vet. About 1960, he thought he would clear out the blackberries in the back pasture by blowing them up with dynamite. He went to the local hardware store, bought a couple of sticks (another thing they took from us!) and prepped one.
He lit the fuse, tossed it into the thicket, and ran. There was a mighty bang, which came dangerously close to breaking every window in the vicinity. He checked the results.
All he had managed to do, at the risk of jail and paying for property damages (which he could in no way afford) was to blow a hole only one foot across through the top of the thicket.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 28, 2025 08:51 PM (TVOOe)
128Many are cold, but few are frozen.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 28, 2025 08:50 PM (0sNs1)
Liam Neeson is in a new move called Cold Storage. Alien disease escapes from an old military storage facility. Jump scares, body horror, Liam Neeson.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2025 08:53 PM (rbvCR)
129
The field adjacent to my parents' house was thick with the damned blackberry vines.
Mom swore that one day she'd fill a backpack sprayer with diesel....
Too bad she didn't! That sh*t roots every place it touches the ground and spreads like wild fire.
Posted by: JQ at November 28, 2025 08:55 PM (rdVOm)
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 28, 2025 08:55 PM (3cPiL)
131
I usually only see the ONT if I have insomnia or maybe the last 15 minutes of the thread. But it's always funny or interesting stuff.
Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2025 08:56 PM (Ia/+0)
132
Screw climbing Everest. It’s obvious that man doesn’t belong there,
I’m so sick of these extremophiles who insist that humans have to be everywhere.
Posted by: Bulg at November 28, 2025 08:56 PM (77rzZ)
133
I better call it a night
Have a good night everyone
Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2025 08:59 PM (Ia/+0)
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127
'All he had managed to do, at the risk of jail and paying for property damages (which he could in no way afford) was to blow a hole only one foot across through the top of the thicket.'
He needed a bulldozer with one of those blade attachments like they used in the bocage in WWII.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 28, 2025 08:59 PM (fd80v)
Posted by: davidt at November 28, 2025 09:00 PM (Q+gd/)
136
I planted a whole lotta things from the MO. Dept. of Cons. when I first moved here. The only thing that lived was blackberry.
Made a thicket not even rabbits could get through. Brush hogged it, then nuked it.
It still comes back here and there, but I've got it under control. How I wish I had paid up and bought thornless from a nursery.
Posted by: MkY at November 28, 2025 09:00 PM (q6tQZ)
137
Kiffin is taking the money and going to LSU. He just wants Ole Miss to think he cared.
Posted by: Accomack at November 28, 2025 09:02 PM (IG7T0)
Accomack and college football/sports fans here, wanted to ask yet another question. Are there still issues about paying student athletes? Or is that now a dead letter and all the stars are making money?
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2025 09:04 PM (IET3u)
140
The NY Post has a headline on one of it's stories that shouldn't exist. "Jill Biden seen popping into a Nantucket lingerie shop".
I just ate , thx a lot
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 28, 2025 09:05 PM (bfwj/)
How many people do you think Liam has to listen to every day doing 'the bit' about 'certain skills.'
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2025 09:05 PM (IET3u)
142
Sooth: Z's paychecks keep bouncing out the door :-P
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2025 09:06 PM (IET3u)
143
@137 saw that Kiffin was "praying over " the decision. Praying over a pile of cash more like it
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 28, 2025 09:06 PM (bfwj/)
144 Impeachment is in House, trial is in
Senate, and requires 60 votes.
Sounds great. Won't work without a 60 seat majority.
Won’t work with a 60 seat majority because squishes.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 28, 2025 09:06 PM (gxRWI)
145
But damn, does he have better stunt men.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 28, 2025 09:02 PM (zdLoL)
And directors who will make eighteen cuts in a scene showing him climbing a fence to make it seem dynamic.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 09:06 PM (IxQNO)
146
All he had managed to do, at the risk of jail and paying for property damages (which he could in no way afford) was to blow a hole only one foot across through the top of the thicket.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 28, 2025 08:51 PM (TVOOe)
Sounds like a berry difficult task.
Posted by: not to worry - no one hates me for this comment more than me at November 28, 2025 09:08 PM (AS5Pl)
147a bulldozer with one of those blade attachments like they used in the bocage
I have a tractor attachment very much like that: a heavy back blade with foot-long scarifier tines. Bought the late neighbor's lots, paid to have the trash trees removed, then essayed to root out the forest mat beneath ground level by driving over and over it, pulling out the web of intertwined stump-lumber. I spent the rest of the year at it -- and it was really hard on my back, too. Lots of sudden stops. You don't just need the blade; you need the whole Sherman. I enjoyed the work, though.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 28, 2025 09:09 PM (zdLoL)
148
Sounds like a berry difficult task.
Posted by: not to worry - no one hates me for this comment more than me at November 28, 2025 09:08 PM (AS5Pl)
If things went just a bit differently, he would have been in a real jam.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 09:09 PM (IxQNO)
149
tank:
and every one of those 18 cuts require an entirely new camera and equipment set-up, coordinated by hundreds of Hollywood techies.
Movie sets today are extremely boring places.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2025 09:10 PM (IET3u)
150
Idaho Spudboy - bangalore torpedoes sound right for that job. Removing wire and barriers seems similar to clearing out tough foilage.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 28, 2025 09:12 PM (U/Byj)
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148 Sounds like a berry difficult task.
Posted by: not to worry - no one hates me for this comment more than me at November 28, 2025 09:08 PM (AS5Pl)
If things went just a bit differently, he would have been in a real jam.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 09:09 PM (IxQNO)
Heaven preserve us!
Posted by: not to worry - no one hates me for this comment more than me at November 28, 2025 09:12 PM (AS5Pl)
152
I can't tell if that bear was just drinking or salivating. I'd like to think just he was drinking but we are all snacks to a bear. A good crunch at first, decent mouth feel, satisfying juicy center finish.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 28, 2025 09:12 PM (3uBP9)
153
Announcement: After prayerful consideration, I can confirm that I am not a candidate for head college football coaching jobs. I will not be participating in any coaching searches at this time.
As I will not be coaching college football, I plan to continue my participation in the Hobby Thread and periodic ONT posts. I ask the media to please respect my family's privacy. Thank you for you attention to this matter.
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149 tank:
and every one of those 18 cuts require an entirely new camera and equipment set-up, coordinated by hundreds of Hollywood techies.
Movie sets today are extremely boring places.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 28, 2025 09:10 PM (IET3u)
The way digital photography is progressing, it will soon get to the point that one merely needs to toss a few Go Pros on the ground and maybe put a drone in or two in the air and just see what angles work best later.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 09:13 PM (IxQNO)
155Screw climbing Everest. It’s obvious that man doesn’t belong there,
I’m so sick of these extremophiles who insist that humans have to be everywhere.
Posted by: Bulg at November 28, 2025 08:56 PM (77rzZ)
Humans can survive from the deepest arctic to the worst deserts and rank jungles. Also we can die of hypothermia at 80F.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2025 09:14 PM (rbvCR)
156
Just glanced the russki story on it, Ermak is caught up in the latest corruption scandal, thus endeth his job as head of Z's office. Corruption of course is spectacular and endemic in Ukeistan, but there are degrees of it, and also the question of investigations being used to oust those you want ousted. So who knows.
Uke problems at the moment are more related to manpower (effective, adequately trained, suitable, motivated manpower). The russki Gletscherkrieg is, well, glacial in its pace (basically the only way to advance under these conditions), but seems just as inexorable as a glacier.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 28, 2025 09:16 PM (U/Byj)
157
147
'Lots of sudden stops. You don't just need the blade; you need the whole Sherman. I enjoyed the work, though.'
Oh yeah. I don't doubt it. That's why I threw in the bulldozer. Those roots have a hell of a grip on the ground. You need a lot of mass to dislodge them.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 28, 2025 09:18 PM (fd80v)
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153 Announcement: After prayerful consideration, I can confirm that I am not a candidate for head college football coaching jobs. I will not be participating in any coaching searches at this time.
Posted by: TRex - Coach Dino at November 28, 2025 09:13 PM (cCn4/)
I, however, will gladly consider any open coaching position in a Division 1 school. Please don't let my total lack of experience or any semblance of expertise discourage you from offering me millions of dollars to bring your program to as yet unimagined levels of ineptitude.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 09:18 PM (IxQNO)
159
Taking trash to Mt. Everest is lame, we should set our sites higher and fire it all into the sun
Posted by: banana Dream at November 28, 2025 09:19 PM (3uBP9)
160
Uke problems at the moment are more related to manpower (effective, adequately trained, suitable, motivated manpower). The russki Gletscherkrieg is, well, glacial in its pace (basically the only way to advance under these conditions), but seems just as inexorable as a glacier.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 28, 2025 09:16 PM (U/Byj)
I have seen someone calculate that if a snail had started at the Russians original position 3 years ago and moved steadily in a straight line, it would have made it to the Polish border by now.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2025 09:21 PM (3U2FH)
161
Oh, Hay. Rice University prof James Tour has developed a method to extract rare earth elements from scrapped electronics using flash heating of materials which is less toxic and less expensive than current recycling techniques
https://tinyurl.com/mssxfxa6
Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2025 09:23 PM (rbvCR)
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150 Idaho Spudboy - bangalore torpedoes sound right for that job. Removing wire and barriers seems similar to clearing out tough foilage.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 28, 2025 09:12 PM (U/Byj)
I know all there is to know about Bangalore Torpedoes, because I watch The Longest Day every June 6th!
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2025 09:24 PM (3U2FH)
163I have seen someone calculate that if a snail had started at the Russians original position 3 years ago and moved steadily in a straight line, it would have made it to the Polish border by now.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2025 09:21 PM (3U2FH)
So what are the Uke's excuse, then?
Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2025 09:24 PM (rbvCR)
164
I never heard of a Colbertism silkworm scheme in NW Ohio, but it's the only way to account for the number of very old mulberry colonies you find in back lots. People had to really really want some berries (and I never heard anybody that enthusiastic about the character of mulberry fruit). They send runners out from a well-hidden deep stump bole, and those find fences and other trees to twine around. Tough vine; you can cut it out all day just to see it come back the next week if you don't dig out the bole, and the bole invites the dynamite noted above. More than once I've chased down the mother trunk and built a fire pit around it.Hard to do on the property line though, and they seem to know right where the line is.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 28, 2025 09:26 PM (zdLoL)
Posted by: PabloD at November 28, 2025 09:26 PM (lC2t1)
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165 Is that an African or European snail?
Posted by: PabloD
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Laden or unladen?
Posted by: lin-duh at November 28, 2025 09:27 PM (VCgbV)
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159
'Taking trash to Mt. Everest is lame, we should set our sites higher and fire it all into the sun'
And only rich people can enjoy the trash on Everest. If you threw it in the Grand Canyon everyone could appreciate it.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 28, 2025 09:28 PM (fd80v)
168
"The field adjacent to my parents' house was thick with the damned blackberry vines.
Mom swore that one day she'd fill a backpack sprayer with diesel...." Posted by: JQ
2-4D or RoundUp probably cheaper and more effective.
Posted by: illiniwek at November 28, 2025 09:30 PM (vbXSk)
169
Any suggestions as to what to do with all this leftover penguin and sauerkraut?
Posted by: Ex-Penguin Lover at November 28, 2025 09:31 PM (vFG9F)
170
A new viral video: How to tell if fellow commenters are AI generated AI generated AI generated
171 What's interesting about ukraine is President Trump didn't tell zelensky, again, to release all the info on biden's corruption in that country.
Remember the "phone call" Hoax?
Trump wanted the dirt on the bidens. zelensky never forked it over.
Why not demand it now? No doubt other Democrats are involved.
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 28, 2025 09:32 PM (GptnP)
172
Do these vines not produce blackberries anymore?
I remember blackberries as a kid being like free candy.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 09:32 PM (KDPiq)
173
@169 ritually bury the penguin remains to ward off other penguins
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 28, 2025 09:33 PM (bfwj/)
174I remember blackberries as a kid being like free candy.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 09:32 PM (KDPiq)
They are, if you have a thicket you can pick enough in 15 minutes to make a batch of jam.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2025 09:34 PM (rbvCR)
175
167 159
'Taking trash to Mt. Everest is lame, we should set our sites higher and fire it all into the sun'
And only rich people can enjoy the trash on Everest. If you threw it in the Grand Canyon everyone could appreciate it.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 28, 2025 09:28 PM (fd80v)
If this was a real country, we'd have turned the Grand Canyon into the world's largest ball pit several generations ago. This country can't do great things anymore.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 28, 2025 09:35 PM (QPCEj)
176
I have seen someone calculate that if a snail had started at the Russians original position 3 years ago and moved steadily in a straight line, it would have made it to the Polish border by now.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2025 09:21 PM (3U2FH)
If the snail also killed and crippled a million Ukrainian soldiers and destroyed a thousand NATO tanks while moving in the straight line, then the Russians would have a reason to be embarrassed.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 28, 2025 09:38 PM (TVOOe)
177
There’s an incredible amount of trash and abandoned stuff up there. It’s criminal.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 28, 2025 08:40 PM (mT+6a)
I can think of no better place to dump trash, than some God-forsaken mountain where nobody with any sense ever goes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2025 09:38 PM (npFr7)
178
Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2025 09:34 PM (rbvCR)
We would put in a big bowl with a little bit of milk and mix with sugar.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 09:38 PM (KDPiq)
179
175
'If this was a real country, we'd have turned the Grand Canyon into the world's largest ball pit several generations ago. This country can't do great things anymore.'
Haha. Lord. We'd be having people stuffed down so far we wouldn't be able to find them until the smell hit.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 28, 2025 09:38 PM (fd80v)
180
If this was a real country, we'd have turned the Grand Canyon into the world's largest ball pit several generations ago. This country can't do great things anymore.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 28, 2025 09:35 PM (QPCEj)
Eagle Mtn Calif... a deep strip mine out in the Desert. There was a really cool project to fill it in with garbage from all over Southern Calif, but folks in Palms Springs and Palm Desert killed it using environmental laws.
So... Enviro laws were used to bankrupt a project, that would have mitigated an Enviro problem.. go figure.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 28, 2025 09:39 PM (mP0Kj)
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If this was a real country, we'd have turned the Grand Canyon into the world's largest ball pit several generations ago. This country can't do great things anymore.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 28, 2025 09:35 PM (QPCEj)
Imagine if we did that, and you jumped in, and then had to figure out how to climb back up out of 5,000 feet of balls.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2025 09:39 PM (3U2FH)
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Paying players is a done deal. We’ll see if caps become a thing. I see an informal minor league system forming.
Sometimes I think the Russians are going so slowly because they know they can’t have/don’t want all of Ukraine.
The whole thing stinks and we should just leave.
Posted by: Accomack at November 28, 2025 09:40 PM (IG7T0)
183
If the snail also killed and crippled a million Ukrainian soldiers and destroyed a thousand NATO tanks while moving in the straight line, then the Russians would have a reason to be embarrassed.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 28, 2025 09:38 PM (TVOOe)
Russians are fighting Europe, and the US... just using Ukrainian soldiers.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 28, 2025 09:41 PM (mP0Kj)
184
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 28, 2025 09:39 PM (mP0Kj
They built a 27 hole golf course in Houston on top of a former dump. It might be the highest elevation in Houston.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 09:42 PM (KDPiq)
Howdy, sir! How’s your neck of the woods? Gorgeous day here today, sunshine and 50 on the beach.
Going to get chilly tonight.
Hope you and the wife and the demon dog are well. Happy Thanksgiving!
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 28, 2025 09:43 PM (mT+6a)
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Idaho Spudboy - bangalore torpedoes sound right for that job. Removing wire and barriers seems similar to clearing out tough foilage.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 28, 2025 09:12 PM (U/Byj)
I expect a skid-steer with a flail mower attachment would do a number on blackberries.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2025 09:43 PM (npFr7)
187
The drone tech in the Uke war has advanced to the point that neither side can risk being seen out in the open. Makes any large scale advance impossible for either side.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2025 09:43 PM (3U2FH)
188
I just drive the tractor with a bush hog on it thru the blackberry patches. They will come back next year.
Posted by: fd at November 28, 2025 09:45 PM (vFG9F)
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173 @169 ritually bury the penguin remains to ward off other penguins
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 28, 2025 09:33 PM (bfwj/)
Don't bury them. If you really want to ward off other penguins, you have to display the remains of the slain to let their kinfolk know what horrors await them if they continue their foolishness. There's a reason Vlad's impalement victims were outside the walls and not in the banquet hall.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 09:46 PM (IxQNO)
>>I have seen someone calculate that if a snail had started at the Russians original position 3 years ago and moved steadily in a straight line, it would have made it to the Polish border by now.
A theoretical snail could do it, but in reality, the snail would have had to stop for cigarettes and alcohol along the way, and probably got distracted by some whore snails looking to make some scratch.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 28, 2025 09:47 PM (XV/Pl)
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There's a reason Vlad's impalement victims were outside the walls and not in the banquet hall.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 09:46 PM (IxQNO)
Well, the smell would get a little rank after a few days, too. Could put the nobles off their feed.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2025 09:50 PM (npFr7)
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181 Imagine if we did that, and you jumped in, and then had to figure out how to climb back up out of 5,000 feet of balls.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2025 09:39 PM (3U2FH)
Bonnie Blue has entered the chat.
Posted by: tankdemon at November 28, 2025 09:50 PM (IxQNO)
193
I went to town to get groceries to make dinner, and the Chinese restaurant was open, so I ate there. Nice meal for $12.95, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2025 09:51 PM (npFr7)
196
Hiya, Nurse! All is well here. We're doing a belated T-day dinner tomorrow, so my @$$ will be in the kitchen for a good chunk of the day. Were your sons able to make it to Seattle for mom's home cooking?
Posted by: PabloD at November 28, 2025 09:56 PM (lC2t1)
197
I think if you took a crap in the airport of a city, it should xount as a visit.
Posted by: steven at November 29, 2025 01:02 AM (QOrsj)
198
That bear catching salmon vid looks like some AI enhancement to me. In the first few seconds a fish jumps toward the bear's mouth and just disappears. I think someone added fish to an existing video.
Posted by: George V at November 29, 2025 07:06 AM (HUbHH)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 28, 2025 06:35 PM (PFs9e)
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Willowed: I tried this deepai.org. It does not seem to know what a "centaur" is supposed to be; it keeps giving me horse images. So much for artificial "intelligence."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 28, 2025 06:35 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 06:35 PM (KDPiq)
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2
Well South Park can start too. They've really jumped the shark with a surprising amount of TDS (and their ratings have not done well as a result either).
Posted by: the lower depths at November 28, 2025 06:35 PM (UdiE9)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 28, 2025 06:37 PM (PiwSw)
11
Duma is a super movie about a boy and a cheetah.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 28, 2025 06:38 PM (sDNVV)
12
From chick on car hood thread, and not to make this a movie thread :
234 Watch "Judgement at Nuremberg" just to see how gracefully Judy Garland aged. 41, looking like a rough 61. Spencer Tracy, BTW was in his early 60s and looked like Death already caught up (Jamesons whisky I imagine).
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 28, 2025 06:30 PM (gm9Sb)
Whenever I see Judgement at Nuremburg, which is whenever it's on, I think to myself 'Col Klink gets what's coming to him' because one of the defendants is Werner Klemperer, who would play Col Klink in Hogans Heros in a few years.
Speaking of Werner's - whatever happened to the person with the Werner nic who used to make lengthy posts?
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 28, 2025 06:38 PM (QGaXH)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 28, 2025 06:39 PM (LjSYW)
14
One of the kittens was sleeping between me and the edge of the bed last night. When I rolled over I must have pulled the blanket tight and launched him off the bed, and he caught the blanket with one paw so he just dangled for a minute over the edge before he let go and went to the living room to finish the night
Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2025 06:39 PM (rbvCR)
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I'd be pretty leery of having a cheetah in bed with me"
*insert cougar joke here*
Posted by: man at November 28, 2025 06:40 PM (XuXeR)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 28, 2025 06:40 PM (pkeXY)
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I'm animated TV fan. King of the Hill, Bobs Burgers, Archer, Beavis and Butthead, Futurama.
Never ever liked or got the humor of South Park. I even like Family Guy more than South Park.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 06:40 PM (KDPiq)
18
Speaking of things they took from us, yesterday I saw a print ad for a 76 Caprice four door hardtop. That was not the equivalent of todays $100k four door pickup although the truck probably sells to the same demo the Caprice did. Normal adult people with normal pay could buy that Caprice, without making large payments for 7 or 8 years, and many many did. Sure, the Caprice fell apart quicker, maybe, but a car was not required to last 10-15 years because of the huge financial investment
Posted by: Azjaeger at November 28, 2025 06:40 PM (3/XaG)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 28, 2025 06:41 PM (lkBjo)
20
Cheetahs are very un-catlike cats. They look feline, of course, but they are in their own genus, not Felis or Panthera, and we know that they cannot retract their claws but have them out like a dog. (Makes for good traction during those fast runs after prey, I guess.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 28, 2025 06:41 PM (wzUl9)
Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2025 06:43 PM (YwEeS)
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I think SS would make a great live action Cheetara.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 28, 2025 06:47 PM (3uBP9)
27
We may get 3-6 inches of snow Tuesday here in Mid Hudson. Snow flurries at the moment which they are saying is extended laje effect snow. Guess winter's here
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 28, 2025 06:48 PM (bfwj/)
28William Shatner is in Judgement at Nuremberg.
Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2025
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And is very effective, as is Klemperer. The latter did a *lot* of serious stuff before landing the role of Klink. In fact he, Shatner, and Leonard Nimoy were in one of the best of the early Man From U.N.C.L.E. episodes, "the Project Strigas Affair" -- a kind of proto-Mission: Impossible script. It's on YooToob, I think.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 28, 2025 06:48 PM (wzUl9)
No one else here has the urge to "challenge" Nature and be as close as possible to the harsh outdoor Elements and yet still be comfortable and survive the night?
Just me?
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 28, 2025 06:48 PM (y6eaM)
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My kitteh is laying on my stomach while I'm laying on my couch posting this comment on my iPhone.
I guess it goes with any pet but I think the relationship is much better if you bond with them soon after they are weaned.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 06:48 PM (KDPiq)
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25 William Shatner is in Judgement at Nuremberg.
Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2025 06:43 PM (YwEeS)
Now I have to rewatch it yet again....shucks.....
Wife is in the other room bingewatching Hallmark movies...either she's watching the same movie over and over or those movies all have the same sappy music..
I know...embrace the awesome enlightening and healing power of 'and'...
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 28, 2025 06:49 PM (QGaXH)
32
That cat needs a good drop kick across the street and it'd clear that attitude problem right up.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 28, 2025 06:49 PM (6ydKt)
33
I'm suspicious. Looks like the cat is out all times of the day and night on the building high ledge.
That's probably the slapee's cat and he's making $ from clicks. if not, poor furry, random little menace would likely be off that high ledge.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at November 28, 2025 06:50 PM (NFX2v)
34 Any of you guys wanna see Sweeney's butt cheeks Daily Mail has a photo.
Posted by: fourseasons at November 28, 2025 06:50 PM (3ek7K)
35 You People who have never experienced a Winter Blizzard...I pity you.
There's nothing better than being Outside in a Blizzard and then coming Inside, looking back out through a window at the Blizzard and saying, "Not today, Death. Not today."
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 28, 2025 06:52 PM (y6eaM)
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Ha ha, I just checked the internet, and it looks like 20-30 % of all worldwide electricity production has gone to LLMs generating images of Sidney Sweeney as Cheetara. So I'm not the only one that thought this, not at all.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 28, 2025 06:52 PM (3uBP9)
Posted by: t-bird at November 28, 2025 06:55 PM (LLQU7)
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Speaking of Werner's - whatever happened to the person with the Werner nic who used to make lengthy posts?
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 28, 2025 06:38 PM (QGaXH)
"Werner Herzog has opinions". Showed up briefly a week or two ago.
I though his stuff was pretty funny.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2025 06:55 PM (npFr7)
Posted by: Oddbob at November 28, 2025 06:56 PM (3nLb4)
40
Sidney Sweeney is not quite a butter face but not far off. Seems she has her head on right though which adds points.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 06:57 PM (KDPiq)
41
Saw a news blip about a gal that has Tourettes that has 10.8 million followers on tic tok. I will never understand this.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 28, 2025 06:57 PM (sDNVV)
42
Yep. Those are butt cheeks, all right.
I know butt cheeks, and yes, sir, those are sure enough butt cheeks.
Posted by: Person who checks things out at November 28, 2025 06:57 PM (XQo4F)
43
28 Shatner could act, most of his bad rep comes from the terrible third season of Star Trek(when Roddenberry was checked out, Coon was gone and they all knew the show was done).He was in Brothers Karamazov with Yul Brenner as well. From what I recall Klemperer was very anti Nazi and took the Hogan's Hero's part on the condition it would always me them look ridiculous.
Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2025 06:58 PM (YwEeS)
44
I was in a winter blizzard once when I lived in Tennessee.
I didn't like it at all. Moved further South.
Posted by: Case at November 28, 2025 06:58 PM (5Je/N)
45
Fun Fact: Cheetahs have so little genetic diversity that they were either a domesticated species at some time in the recent past or they were once reduced to an alarmingly low population in the wild and managed to hang on.
I’d like to think it was the domestication thing cause I really want one. They get along with people pretty well.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 28, 2025 06:58 PM (b4o9z)
46Saw a news blip about a gal that has Tourettes that has 10.8 million followers on tic tok. I will never understand this.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 28, 2025 06:57 PM (sDNVV)
Adam Curry has Tourettes and used to be a VJ on MTV
Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2025 06:58 PM (rbvCR)
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Saw a news blip about a gal that has Tourettes that has 10.8 million followers on tic tok. I will never understand this.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 28, 2025 06:57 PM (sDNVV)
Tourette's onTIC tok
Can't make this up.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 06:59 PM (KDPiq)
50om what I recall Klemperer was very anti Nazi and took the Hogan's Hero's part on the condition it would always me them look ridiculous.
Pretty sure Klemperer and Banner were both Jewish. Maybe the guy who played General Burkhalter as well.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 28, 2025 07:01 PM (3nLb4)
51
Every female on Tik Tok claims some kind of disability. Usually ADHD...
Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2025 07:02 PM (YwEeS)
52
I have to think about winterizing my sprinkler system soon and getting the annual check on my furnace.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 07:02 PM (KDPiq)
53 In this episode, he and Boomer camp out in a pickup truck with just a regular cap on the bed:
https://is.gd/Sr3kak
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 28, 2025 07:02 PM (3cPiL)
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25 William Shatner is in Judgement at Nuremberg.
Posted by: steevy
William Shatner... IS. IN. Judgement at Nuremberg!
Fixed it for ya.
Posted by: Auspex at November 28, 2025 07:02 PM (Y8DZL)
55
Warm eggong with brandy, a cinnamon stick and nutmeg
Yes , thank you.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 28, 2025 07:02 PM (sDNVV)
56
Forecast here is for 8" of snow by tomorrow night. I got the blade on the (open station) tractor ... regretting missing a deal on a Branson 55HP with a WARM cab, under 1000 hours.
But I only really need the cab when temps are below 15 and winds are blowing. Then again ... I'm getting older, every damn year ... need to upgrade to more comfort features.
Posted by: illiniwek at November 28, 2025 07:03 PM (vbXSk)
Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 28, 2025 07:04 PM (+mUZM)
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Posted by: illiniwek at November 28, 2025 07:03 PM (vbXSk)
I bet they make an after market cab attachment of some sort.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 07:05 PM (KDPiq)
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>>I guess it goes with any pet but I think the relationship is much better if you bond with them soon after they are weaned.
I rescued Elvis when he was almost exactly 6 months. He got bounced between a couple shelters and foster care and had some abuse when he was in the system. Once he realized I loved him and he had a safe home he never looked back. Plus I spoil the crap out of him.
Now he's my shadow and the most affectionate dog I've ever had. I wake up every morning with him lying on me giving me kisses and snuggles. Rescues know when they've scored.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 28, 2025 07:05 PM (viF8m)
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Pretty sure Klemperer and Banner were both Jewish. Maybe the guy who played General Burkhalter as well.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 28, 2025 07:01 PM
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And Robert Clary (LeBeau) was a survivor of Auschwitz
Posted by: Bigsmith at November 28, 2025 07:06 PM (1Au9i)
Posted by: Case at November 28, 2025 07:09 PM (5Je/N)
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Notsothoreau, brandy in tea in the morning is an eye opener. Did a tour with a Vet friend and his first cases of the day would supply the drinks. Best learning g experience I have ever had.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 28, 2025 07:10 PM (sDNVV)
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51 Every female on Tik Tok claims some kind of disability. Usually ADHD...
Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2025 07:02 PM (YwEeS)
"Neurodivergent" is the hip new catchall. It's just a ten-dollar word for "bitches be cray cray."
Posted by: Truth in labeling at November 28, 2025 07:10 PM (TbWk/)
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>>> Every female on Tik Tok claims some kind of disability. Usually ADHD...
Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2025 07:02 PM (YwEeS)
TikTok allows females to synchronize their mental
Illnesses. Change my mind.
Posted by: LizLem at November 28, 2025 07:11 PM (gWBY1)
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I see a lot of cab attachments on the intertubes. Average price seems to be around 1500.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 07:11 PM (KDPiq)
Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2025 07:11 PM (YwEeS)
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Pretty sure Klemperer and Banner were both Jewish. Maybe the guy who played General Burkhalter as well.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 28, 2025 07:01 PM (3nLb4)
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He kept a diary of the war and I don't think he went to a camp, so I'm saying no.
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"I bet they make an after market cab attachment of some sort." Posted by: the way I see it
nothing I could find for my Zetor 4341 ... I looked at fabricating a couple Plexiglas panels maybe ... but most times I'm okay with being in the elements.
Now they updated, a little over 10", but some rain mixed in .... even more to y north. Yea, a winter wonderland.
Posted by: illiniwek at November 28, 2025 07:13 PM (vbXSk)
69
Atlantic writer blames Trump for the DC shooting.
Reasoning basically the skirt was so short she was asking for it.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 07:13 PM (KDPiq)
70
You People who have never experienced a Winter Blizzard...I pity you.
There's nothing better than being Outside in a Blizzard and then coming Inside, looking back out through a window at the Blizzard and saying, "Not today, Death. Not today."
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 28, 2025 06:52 PM (y6eaM)
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Summer Blizzards are tasty.
71 Of course. Which proves it was Democrat party terrorsim.
Democrats: It wasn't terrorism!
Also Democrats: by the way, we should change the policy so this doesn't happen again.
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 28, 2025 07:15 PM (3cPiL)
72
rats, just went to Kwik-Trip an hour ago, coulda got eggnog, but I just dint think ...
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 28, 2025 07:16 PM (Cjt/F)
73
Watched Charlie Brown Thanksgiving AND Christmas! So those are checked off the list.
Teenage boy loves the book series Murderbot. So we are watching the show. It's actually pretty good! Not really woke per se, as the robot makes fun of all humans. Alexander Skaarsgard is delightfully droll and a stellar lead.
Posted by: LizLem at November 28, 2025 07:17 PM (gWBY1)
74
Since we are on snow and ice, any advice for a good glove for doing chores in the cold. I'm fussy with gloves, I don't like them to be too bulky or too stiff. I manage to splash water on the gloves even if I plugged in the heaters and am not fishing ice out of tanks. I have some water resistant gloves that are ok. If its very cold at all I often step in the house and swap into the warm pair. I would like to have better gloves but I don't want to pay for good gloves unless I know they will work for me.
Posted by: PaleRider at November 28, 2025 07:17 PM (hhkIi)
one of the ways in which dogs are better than some yoo-mons
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 28, 2025 07:19 PM (Cjt/F)
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I bet Cheetara would cuddle like that. Definitely a cuddler.
THUNDERCATS HO!
Posted by: banana Dream at November 28, 2025 06:34 PM (3uBP9)
You couldn't do that with a leopard though. Even if they were nice to you for 1000 days straight, on Day 1001, they might just decide to eat your face.
Lions, if you get them young enough, and they bond with you before adolescence, they'll be your friend for life.
But that doesn't mean they won't wake up one day, feel like shit, and decide to take it out on you. Nothing personal, you just happened to be the closest thing.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2025 07:20 PM (k3qkX)
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Orange kitteh up there looks an awful lot like the Best Cat Evar.
My boy was the sweetest, most chatty guy, but every now and then... he would get this high pitched whine, and you knew your shins would never be the same.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2025 07:21 PM (k3qkX)
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JackStraw, I love how a guy that has always had Goldens fell for a hound.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 28, 2025 07:22 PM (sDNVV)
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Ok, not first, but I'm going to treat this like my own thread.
Best part of Friday after Thanksgiving?
Nobody except people with real jobs are on the road during rush hour.
Which aren't many.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2025 07:22 PM (k3qkX)
8275 What don't the Democrats blame Trump for?
Posted by: steevy
The Democrats will always need an 'Emmanuel Goldstein' to advance the Greater Good. If not Trump, somebody else.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 28, 2025 07:22 PM (v9vY1)
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The Edge was one of Alec Balwin's best.
Type cast again.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 28, 2025 07:22 PM (Zz+7G)
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The South Park Charlie Kirk episode was ok. But implies that the hard core Kirk conservatives are all faking it for clicks and are actually self loathing.
And then Nick Fuentes rose after Kirk's death to fill the vacuum his death left behind... and I was like nah, Charlie Kirk was a true believer in all
He said. Not a fake self loathed. Nick Fuentes does, however, read like a left wing troll faking a right winger.
Posted by: LizLem at November 28, 2025 07:23 PM (gWBY1)
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76: hmm, never heard of those. I was looking at some ice fishing gloves but when I clicked on the amazon AI question thing for snowboarding for some reason and it said the gloves were probably too stiff to adjust bindings etc. and snow boarding or ski gloves would be better, But I know I don't want ski type gloves because of the bulk and they are not good for wet conditions.
Posted by: PaleRider at November 28, 2025 07:23 PM (hhkIi)
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Lions, if you get them young enough, and they bond with you before adolescence, they'll be your friend for life.
But that doesn't mean they won't wake up one day, feel like shit, and decide to take it out on you. Nothing personal, you just happened to be the closest thing.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2025 07:20 PM (k3qkX)
Thats why you fit them with explosive collars.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2025 07:24 PM (snZF9)
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My bottle baby cat hated the guy that would deliver feed. She would jump on the truck and swat at him. I had to lock her in the house when he was coming
Posted by: Ben Had at November 28, 2025 07:24 PM (sDNVV)
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Every female on Tik Tok claims some kind of disability. Usually ADHD...
Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2025 07:02 PM (YwEeS)
The most common disability on the internet is people who can't stop talking about their disability.
And of all their disabilities, that is the most disabling.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2025 07:25 PM (k3qkX)
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Nick Fuentes does, however, read like a left wing troll faking a right winger.
Posted by: LizLem
===
That foam at the top is not necessarily cream.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 28, 2025 07:26 PM (Zz+7G)
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Teenage boy loves the book series Murderbot. So we are watching the show. It's actually pretty good! Not really woke per se, as the robot makes fun of all humans. Alexander Skaarsgard is delightfully droll and a stellar lead.
Posted by: LizLem
It's been renewed for season 2.
Posted by: Tuna at November 28, 2025 07:26 PM (lJ0H4)
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Thats why you fit them with explosive collars.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2025 07:24 PM (snZF9)
Nah, the world would be a better place if there were more big cats, and fewer people who think they should cuddle with big cats.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2025 07:27 PM (k3qkX)
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Kind of surprised me too, Ben Had. But I wouldn't trade this little guy for anything.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 28, 2025 07:27 PM (viF8m)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 28, 2025 07:26 PM
True dat.
Posted by: The Model on "Whipped Cream and Other Delights" album cover at November 28, 2025 07:28 PM (0sNs1)
94 Nah, the world would be a better place if there were more big cats, and fewer people who think they should cuddle with big cats.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Big cats will take care of those knotheads sooner or later.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 28, 2025 07:29 PM (Zz+7G)
9560 Pretty sure Klemperer and Banner were both Jewish. Maybe the guy who played General Burkhalter as well.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 28, 2025 07:01 PM
Leon Askin (general Burkhalter) was also Jewish, and fled Austria in 1940 for the United states, serving as a staff sergeant in what was then called the U.S. Army Air Forces.
Posted by: Paco at November 28, 2025 07:30 PM (mADJX)
been many years since I have seen south park, or cared if I did, and they have been doing the exact opposite of motivating me to change that opinion.
rly, they are well into wouldn't piss on if on fire" territory
sooner they disappear the better, and take the ^$*%g simpsons with them.
*spit*
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 28, 2025 07:30 PM (Cjt/F)
97 True dat.
Posted by: The Model on "Whipped Cream and Other Delights" album cover at November 28, 2025 07:28 PM (0sNs1
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Marilyn, is that you?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 28, 2025 07:31 PM (Zz+7G)
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" I have some water resistant gloves that are ok. If its very cold at all I often step in the house and swap into the warm pair." Posted by: PaleRider
yes, being able to switch into dry gloves seems a best option. Cold and wet is never good, though they say wool (and probably some synthetics) are a decent option. I think I have some thinsolate gloves ... and some thick leather mittens, which are allegedly warmer, somehow.
Posted by: illiniwek at November 28, 2025 07:31 PM (vbXSk)
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My relationship with cats is like Voltaire's with God: when we pass in the street, we tip our hats, but do not speak.
Posted by: Paco at November 28, 2025 07:31 PM (mADJX)
Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2025 07:32 PM (Ia/+0)
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I have only seen snippets of South Park's recent Trump skits, and they are obscene.
Posted by: Paco at November 28, 2025 07:33 PM (mADJX)
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iirc Robert Clary was also Jewish and interned at the Velodrome. I don't recall if he was ever sent to the death camps.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 28, 2025 07:33 PM (vL0rw)
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I look at my two cats and dogs and know they will be the last I have.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 28, 2025 07:34 PM (sDNVV)
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@88.
....people who can't stop talking about their disability
And guns
And food
Posted by: Case at November 28, 2025 07:35 PM (5Je/N)
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I like thinsulate gloves: lot of dexterity, very warm. If you go to Amazon, they try to sell you everything but thinsulate. It says online you can get them at Tractor Supply. Mine were a gift, so I don’t know where they were purchased.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 28, 2025 07:36 PM (gxRWI)
Posted by: Don Black at November 28, 2025 07:36 PM (AOsQT)
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gloves: yes on flexible and not too thick.
I had a pair of those knit gloves, neon green, with the dipped rubber palm, but they were double layered and fairly warm.
I thought they were reasonably water resistant, (for my purposes).
Mrs used them as garden gloves all summer, so I need to get another pair (or two, I like your idea).
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at November 28, 2025 07:37 PM (Cjt/F)
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43 28 Shatner could act, most of his bad rep comes from the terrible third season of Star Trek(when Roddenberry was checked out, Coon was gone and they all knew the show was done).He was in Brothers Karamazov with Yul Brenner as well. From what I recall Klemperer was very anti Nazi and took the Hogan's Hero's part on the condition it would always me them look ridiculous.
Posted by: steevy at November 28, 2025 06:58 PM (YwEeS)
Oh man...did I turn the thread into a Hogan's Hero's/Shatner thread? (Urkel voice...did I do that?)
Shatner did a movie recently as an old guy in Palm Springs who loses his license for racing around...I thought it was ok. Not great.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at November 28, 2025 07:38 PM (QGaXH)
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I kind of miss having a cat, but every time I've thought about going to a shelter or someone in neighborhood texts about a cat needing a new home I think 'now is not a great time'
Posted by: PaleRider at November 28, 2025 07:38 PM (hhkIi)
111I guess it goes with any pet but I think the relationship is much better if you bond with them soon after they are weaned.
Posted by: the way I see it at November 28, 2025 06:48 PM (KDPiq)
You have to become your pet's world. That takes time and interacting with the pet. Didn't get my dog when I was 10 as a puppy, closer to a year, but we still bonded over 'alone' time.
Posted by: RickZ at November 28, 2025 07:39 PM (gKDq2)
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I no longer watch much TV. I will watch anime but only series I am interested in. I watch Newsmax for breaking news sometimes.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 28, 2025 07:40 PM (gxRWI)
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108. That is similar to what I have now. I have some with thin fleece lining with the fingers and palm dipped for water resistance. But I manage to get the back of the hands where its only the knit stuff wet fairly often and if it is very cold outside my hands are cold in 20-30 minutes, especially if I'm handling hay that got snowed on. I wear the summer garden gloves for chores and riding 7-8 months of the year. Its probably worth trying the ice fishing or scuba gloves, the amazon AI especially is not a great information source.
Posted by: PaleRider at November 28, 2025 07:48 PM (hhkIi)
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I think piper has a kid with Tourettes. Her other 2 kids were geniuses.
Posted by: Ronster at November 28, 2025 07:49 PM (Z7eKX)
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We had a Cat that climbed our Christmas Tree twice without knocking the Tree down or knocking off any decorations
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at November 28, 2025 11:11 PM (FLiOE)
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