The Morning Rant

"So today is the day of the annual pro-life march in Washington DC. It has been held every year on the anniversary of the Roe vs. Wade decision in 1973.

"Most of you probably know about this annual march. Perhaps some of you have attended one or more of them. But those of you who have never heard of it can be excused for not knowing about it, because even though it routinely draws over a hundred thousand participants, the media, in years past, didn't report it. They just pretended that a march consisting of tens of thousands of people, men, women, and children, didn't happen. Not until recent years, when the growth of conservative media forced their hand.

"Anyway, media coverage is not what I want to talk about today. What I want to talk about is that, for the first time in its history, the president of the United States is one of the march's scheduled speakers.

"And this is a remarkable thing. Not just that a president is doing this, but who that president is. Donald Trump, of all presidents. Who would've believed five years ago that the first president to address the biggest annual gathering of pro-life people in the country would be Donald J freakin' Trump?

"We have had other pro-life presidents. But I've been of the impression that they don't really like us all that much. I mean, those of us who consider ourselves social conservatives. They like our votes, and they do appoint mainly conservative judges, but it's not like they do much else, and it's like they're holding us at arm's length. George Bush 1 definitely didn't really want to have anything to do with us, and I think even Reagan was kind of stand-offish. Planned Parenthood routinely gets funded, year after year. It's been mostly lip service and failure theater.

"So the only president who ever diminished Planned Parenthood's funding is the thrice married, perhaps adulterous, not-known-for-being-particularly-conservative-until-his-election Donald Trump. He also sent an ambassador to the U.N. to tell the global elites, sorry no, abortion is not a human right.

"And now, perhaps even as you're reading this, President Trump is addressing the March for Life crowd. He went out of his way to be seen with us, to be identified with us, and to signal his support us in a very public way, and not just him, but his entire administration.

"How is this possible? I know this isn't a religious blog, so I crave your indulgence here, but the only explanation I have for this is that God made it happen.

"I think God is giving us what we want, only He is doing it in such a way that we can't take credit for it ourselves. Because if Trump were a SuperConservative president doing SuperConservative things because he was elected by SuperConservatives like us, we would boast in the wonderfulness of our SuperConservative policies and positions and say, look at the wonderful thing we did. But we can't do that, because Trump is no SuperConservative and heck, we didn't even LIKE the guy and only voted for him because the only alternative was a corrupt old drunk. And this is something the NeverTrumpers and the French Davidians can't understand and get all huffy because of all the support a president they despise enjoys. And so they join with the left in cursing his supporters, which, you know, is probably not going to endear you to them, but you've now burned pretty much all of the bridges, so have a nice life trying to grift from your new pals on the left. Anyway, look, Donald Trump is a very flawed man, we all can see that, but God can draw straight with crooked lines, and that's what we're seeing.

"I've always liked this quote from Ben Franklin, so it is what I'll leave you with:

"I have lived, Sir, a long time, and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth - that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without his aid?"

Everyone who is strongly pro-life has a moment that made them feel this way. What's yours?
— Ben Domenech (@bdomenech) January 23, 2020

I'd like to hear your stories on this, so I'll prime the pump by telling you mine: I was during my first or second year at college and I live on a "co-ed" dorm floor, and the girl next door to me had lots of boyfriends, some of a temporary nature. I wasn't one of them, but we liked to talk and one time she happened to mention that she didn't like taking the pill (I forget why), but she didn't like her boyfriends to use condoms, either, because she didn't like how they felt. So naturally I asked her what she would do if she got pregnant. "Oh, I'd just get an abortion", she said. I was stunned. At that time in my young life, about age 20-21, I was an idiot and a hedonist who believed in nothing but doing whatever brought me immediate gratification, but something about the casual, flippant way she said she'd take a human life chilled me to the bone. That was when I decided I had to pro-life and that was over 40 years ago.

Compare & Contrast:

compare and contrast - virginia 2A vs dems.jpg

Seems Legit:

Ł50 from the Bank of Mysterio got accepted at work tonight. I am in absolute disbelief that someone I work with has accepted this pic.twitter.com/cO1J4wMdti
— Robyn Ridings (@RobynRidings) January 22, 2020

(Heh. Turns out to be a prank)

Snopes Does It Again:

So according to Snopes, the assertion on this meme is incorrect. Their explanation is quite lengthy and they're very careful to point out that the Klan had influence in both parties, but then, buried deep in the article, they admit:

Even so, the record shows that the Klan was actively involved in the convention, lending apparent plausibility to the claim that it came to be known as the "Klanbake."

Oh.

So then, the only problem with the meme is that the word 'Klanbake' wasn't used. Snopes is pretty funny. If someone accuses the Democrats of killing 3 men and a dog, Snopes will produce a picture of the dog, alive, and shriek 'THIS CLAIM IS FALSE!

Never Open Your Umbrella Indoors:

JESUS CHRIST! pic.twitter.com/sJH9fSd3OV
— Wayne Humfleet (@Lumrunner) January 23, 2020

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Wednesday's Celebs: Miranda Otto and Karl Urban from the Lord of the Rings movies.

Today's Edition Of The Morning Rant Is Brought To You By Gouda Cheese:

The first mention of #Gouda cheese dates from 1184, making it one of the oldest recorded cheeses in the world still made today. #Netherlands pic.twitter.com/OtAEbauXHT
— European Beauty (@MagicalEurope) January 13, 2020

Posted by: OregonMuse at 11:16 AM

Comments

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1 I recognize 'em, but can't name 'em.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 24, 2020 11:17 AM (q80AH)

2 Susan Hayward and Victor Mature. Not sure what movie(s) they were in together.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 11:17 AM (Ejm1K)

3 luv the big aip

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 24, 2020 11:17 AM (JFO2v)

4 FRIDAY!

Posted by: USMC 8541 at January 24, 2020 11:17 AM (xGZ+b)

5 Victor Mature and...?

Posted by: BignJames at January 24, 2020 11:18 AM (X/Pw5)

6 2 Susan Hayward and Victor Mature. Not sure what movie(s) they were in together.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 11:17 AM (Ejm1K)

The movie is one likely to be recommended by Captain Oeuver.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 24, 2020 11:18 AM (+/QPx)

7 http://bit.ly/2sZq0nS
*******
Kaya Jones on Twitter: "I said this was happening. Democrats are leaving their own party at the door when voting. Why? Because Dems have gone so far off the deep end to prove nothing but hate and slander. I used to be one I should know! #impeachment SHAM!!!

Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at January 24, 2020 11:18 AM (BqBId)

8 Susan Hayward was a babe and a half, and a strong actress, too. See I Want to Live!, for which (I think!) she was nominated for an Oscar. (Or should have been, or something.)

I think Mature was in the original One Million Years B.C. in the Forties, long before Raquel Welch.

Oh, I think he and Susan played Samson and Delilah in one of DeMille's pictures?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 11:20 AM (Ejm1K)

9 Has super Christian David French given DJT any credit for attending the March for Life?
Honest question.

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at January 24, 2020 11:20 AM (Uu+Jp)

10 http://bit.ly/3aI7cKA
*******
Antonio Brown Ordered to Undergo Mental Health Evaluation in Assault Case
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That is going to be a Long session

Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at January 24, 2020 11:20 AM (BqBId)

11 Oh, and Mature played the Greek slave to Richard Burton's Roman soldier in The Robe.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 11:21 AM (Ejm1K)

12 9 Has super Christian David French given DJT any credit for attending the March for Life?
Honest question.
Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at January 24, 2020 11:20 AM (Uu+Jp)

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He'll write a 100 word post at The Corner saying that Trump is good for doing it, but W.'s lack of attendance actually proved that he was the better man.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 24, 2020 11:21 AM (q80AH)

13 Ah, Susan Hayward.

I LOVE readheads.

If I had time, I would tell you a story about her and Charlton Heston. Maybe later.

Yay, Gorilla Pundit!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 24, 2020 11:21 AM (Ki5SV)

14 Late getting here.
per last nights post about George Stupidopolus...
@TimJGraham put the video on line. And he did mention AOS.

Posted by: RUReadingthis at January 24, 2020 11:21 AM (RzLGh)

15 Umbrella incident, Gaylord still not learned his lesson?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 24, 2020 11:21 AM (iPsjM)

16 Was Victor Mature in The Magnificent Seven?

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at January 24, 2020 11:22 AM (Uu+Jp)

17 luv the big aip
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 24, 2020 11:17 AM (JFO2v)

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asphalt impregnated panels ???

MY MAN!!

Posted by: fixerupper at January 24, 2020 11:22 AM (8XRCm)

18 love the way the author of this post feels compelled to virtue signal that he doesn't consider Trump to be a good person. And wants the world to know it loud and clear. why not stop writing about the man if you don't think he is fit for polite company? Gutless prick.

Posted by: Ched R Chze at January 24, 2020 11:22 AM (p11g/)

19 French Davidian? LOL!

that's awesome, OM.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 24, 2020 11:23 AM (d7Ww2)

20 MP4! please tell the story!

If I had time, I would tell you a story about her and Charlton Heston. Maybe later.

I love what the old stars got up to in their day.

Posted by: USMC 8541 at January 24, 2020 11:23 AM (xGZ+b)

21 Rookie mistake. I looked at pictures 2 - 5.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 24, 2020 11:23 AM (XkxK0)

22 19 French Davidian? LOL!
that's awesome, OM.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 24, 2020 11:23 AM (d7Ww2)

I didn't invent that phrase.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 24, 2020 11:24 AM (+/QPx)

23
9 Has super Christian David French given DJT any credit for attending the March for Life?
Honest question.

Has Super Christian David French ever attended the March for Life himself?

The answer will surprise you!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 24, 2020 11:24 AM (pNxlR)

24 Ok, please tell me that umbrella video was produced by the DOD!

Posted by: Tami at January 24, 2020 11:24 AM (cF8AT)

25 18 love the way the author of this post feels compelled to virtue signal that he doesn't consider Trump to be a good person. And wants the world to know it loud and clear. why not stop writing about the man if you don't think he is fit for polite company? Gutless prick.
Posted by: Ched R Chze at January 24, 2020 11:22 AM (p11g/)

Oh lighten up, Francis. The man has flaws. Isn't it obvious?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 24, 2020 11:25 AM (+/QPx)

26 Bill and I would like to express our deepest condolences for the untimely loss of our friend Bernie Sanders next week due to a freak

a. plane crash
b. car crash
c. medical device failure
d. My Pillow-mishap
e. random street crime
or
e. meteorite strike.

Bernie was a worthy competitor in 2016 and I'll never forget the time last month when he turned to me and said :If anything should happen to me, I want all my supporters to start a "Draft Hillary!"-movement at the convention.

We were lucky to half him.

Wut?

Posted by: Hillary Radium Clinton at January 24, 2020 11:25 AM (Ndje9)

27 Was Victor Mature in The Magnificent Seven?
Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at January 24, 2020

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No. Though he could have played well in it -- perhaps James Coburn's role, the knife-throwing guy.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 11:25 AM (Ejm1K)

28 #NEW Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitamer and Texas Representative Veronica Escobar will deliver the Democrat response to President Trump's State of the Union on February 4
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Who & Who???

Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at January 24, 2020 11:25 AM (BqBId)

29 GWB addressed the pro life march via closed circuit from the East Room of the White House. Trump will be first to do it in person.

Posted by: The Chicken at January 24, 2020 11:25 AM (VzbI8)

30 >>why not stop writing about the man if you don't think he is fit for polite company? Gutless prick. Posted by: Ched R Chze at January 24, 2020 11:22 AM (p11g/)

Trump is too busy to set up shop in *every* critic's head.
He uses "T-chips" to franchise his malignant influence.

Posted by: Zod at January 24, 2020 11:25 AM (ZS9TG)

31 The redhead has nice tittehs

Posted by: Rock Girthpounder at January 24, 2020 11:25 AM (MXbyW)

32
16 Was Victor Mature in The Magnificent Seven?

No.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 24, 2020 11:25 AM (pNxlR)

33 Posted by: Ched R Chze at January 24, 2020 11:22 AM (p11g/)

I'm sure the Hot Air button on your computer is fully functional.

Nickelfucker.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 24, 2020 11:25 AM (Ki5SV)

34 Read content.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at January 24, 2020 11:26 AM (XzVUd)

35 Wow that is some seriously rancid chze

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 24, 2020 11:26 AM (iPsjM)

36 MP4! please tell the story!

I will. Just super busy right now.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 24, 2020 11:26 AM (Ki5SV)

37 apparent plausibility < plausible deniability

Posted by: BignJames at January 24, 2020 11:27 AM (X/Pw5)

38
Victor Mature was modest enough about his talent. He was turned down for membership at a country club for being an actor. He said, "I'm no actor and I have 64 films to prove it."

Spencer Tracy said, "Why do actors think they're so God damn important? They're not. Acting is not an important job in the scheme of things. Plumbing is."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 24, 2020 11:27 AM (7rVsF)

39 I do not want to be anywhere near when AtC sees that umbrella. Nuking from orbit would be only the start.

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at January 24, 2020 11:27 AM (Tt761)

40 Was Victor Mature in The Magnificent Seven?
Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at January 24, 2020 11:22 AM (Uu+Jp)
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No.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 24, 2020 11:28 AM (jW9oF)

41 Was Victor Mature in The Magnificent Seven?
Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at January 24, 2020

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No. Though he could have played well in it -- perhaps James Coburn's role, the knife-throwing guy.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020

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Come to think of it, Mature would have been better in the role of Harry Luck (Brad Dexter) -- the one who is absolutely convinced the whole thing is about gold, but he comes back to fight with them at the end anyway.

Chris: "Yes, Harry. Gold."
Harry: "I'll be damned." [Dies]
Chris (softly): "Maybe you won't be."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 11:28 AM (Ejm1K)

42 How old was Robert Bird in 1924?

Posted by: Chris M at January 24, 2020 11:28 AM (eAZVt)

43 Snopes is pretty funny. If someone accuses the Democrats of killing 3 men and a dog, Snopes will produce a picture of the dog, alive, and shriek 'THIS CLAIM IS FALSE!

this happens when a particularly vain asshole is proven wrong and the asshole, being vain and an asshole, doesn't want to admit it.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at January 24, 2020 11:28 AM (NMIkx)

44 That photo from 1924, which one is Robert Byrd?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 24, 2020 11:28 AM (iPsjM)

45 How old was Robert Bird in 1924?

87.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 24, 2020 11:29 AM (Boy/L)

46 Well if it's Gouda 'nuff for the Dutch...

Posted by: sinalco at January 24, 2020 11:29 AM (yODqO)

47 30 He uses "T-chips" to franchise his malignant influence.
Posted by: Zod at January 24, 2020 11:25 AM (ZS9TG)

When he activates their special mode during Election Night, their heads will deform into piles of rotten soil that insects and snakes will crawl up out of.

Posted by: Allie at January 24, 2020 11:29 AM (UnA8+)

48 Muse,

One of the things I look forward to every morning is reading your post... This one hit it out of the ballpark!

#Respect

Posted by: J Dougs at January 24, 2020 11:29 AM (hQBv1)

49 What the hell is that thing???

Damn, for once I know the celebrities but so does everyone else.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 24, 2020 11:29 AM (dUJdY)

50
deniable plausibility > plausible deniability

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 24, 2020 11:29 AM (pNxlR)

51 "How is this possible? I know this isn't a religious blog, so I crave
your indulgence here, but the only explanation I have for this is that
God made it happen."

No. Trump made it happen. He has more than one public persona so it is very difficult to see the real man.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at January 24, 2020 11:29 AM (XzVUd)

52 GWB addressed the pro life march via closed circuit from the East Room of the White House.
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I believe Reagan did, also.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 24, 2020 11:29 AM (jW9oF)

53 The guy is Victor Mature.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 24, 2020 11:29 AM (19g6/)

54 Wikipedia now claims that the 'KlanBake" is a "debunked conspiracy theory"

Posted by: SMOD at January 24, 2020 11:29 AM (3aI0K)

55 Wasn't that long ago that Trump stated he would not outlaw / prevent partial birth abortions though he did not personally approve. I do believe divine intervention has something to do with the Trump's 180.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 24, 2020 11:30 AM (VzbI8)

56 Chdr - calm down.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if you give a damn at January 24, 2020 11:30 AM (YND0F)

57 Posted by: Ched R Chze at January 24, 2020 11:22 AM (p11g/)

your hash looks like 'pig'.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at January 24, 2020 11:30 AM (NMIkx)

58
Cheeze lady be hawt.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 24, 2020 11:30 AM (kw0bd)

59 Susan Hayward and Victor Mature. Not sure what movie(s) they were in together.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 11:17 AM (Ejm1K)

The movie is one likely to be recommended by Captain Oeuver.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 24, 2020 11:18 AM (+/QPx)

Demetrius and the Gladiators. The sequel to The Robe

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 24, 2020 11:30 AM (mpeBU)

60 >>When he activates their special mode during
Election Night, their heads will deform into piles of rotten soil that
insects and snakes will crawl up out of. Posted by: Allie at January 24, 2020 11:29 AM (UnA8+)

From your lips to Crom's ear...

Posted by: Zod at January 24, 2020 11:30 AM (u4/yY)

61 "Posted by: Anna Puma"

You get credit for spelling his name right.

Posted by: Chris M at January 24, 2020 11:30 AM (eAZVt)

62 I saw video of a vacuum suction abortion. It was like the woman was being raped with a vacuum cleaner and the chatter the pump made when the babies little bones caught in the machinery still .....

Posted by: SkylerKat at January 24, 2020 11:30 AM (SXIn9)

63 Posted by: Ched R Chze

go fuck yourself. obviously you haven't been paying attention. douchenozzle

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 24, 2020 11:30 AM (d7Ww2)

64 That umbrella video was the awesome. Now I want to know how to make one.

Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at January 24, 2020 11:30 AM (B06Zw)

65 Nothing is a better example of the importance of women's reproductive rights than facilitating the lifestyle of whores and loose women.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 24, 2020 11:31 AM (1ISKN)

66 Willowed.

Boeing, you seriously need to get your shit together.

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Old and busted: Boeing

New hotness: Splat

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 24, 2020 11:31 AM (+y/Ru)

67 Samson and Delilah

Posted by: Rock Girthpounder at January 24, 2020 11:31 AM (MXbyW)

68 63 Posted by: Ched R Chze

go fuck yourself. obviously you haven't been paying attention. douchenozzle
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 24, 2020 11:30 AM (d7Ww2)

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I thought you were a lady!

*faints*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 24, 2020 11:31 AM (q80AH)

69 Come to think of it, Mature would have been better in the role of Harry Luck (Brad Dexter) -- the one who is absolutely convinced the whole thing is about gold, but he comes back to fight with them at the end anyway.
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I thought the same thing.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 24, 2020 11:31 AM (jW9oF)

70

Cheese is Gouda.

Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at January 24, 2020 11:31 AM (/bKlZ)

71 Woodpeckers everywhere, "she ain't no lady!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 24, 2020 11:32 AM (iPsjM)

72
Snopes is pretty funny. If someone accuses the Democrats of killing 3 men and a dog, Snopes will produce a picture of the dog, alive, and shriek 'THIS CLAIM IS FALSE!

"The Jesuits profit from the exaggerations of their enemies. Accused of killing three men and a dog, they triumphantly produce the dog." - George Tyrell

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 24, 2020 11:32 AM (7rVsF)

73 What really brought me around on pro-life? Watching the transformation on the other side from "safe, legal, and rare" to "rampaging murder on demand."

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 24, 2020 11:32 AM (Boy/L)

74 "Cheese is Gouda."

I recently discovered Gouda, and I agree, it is gooda!

Posted by: Chris M at January 24, 2020 11:32 AM (eAZVt)

75 >>Cheese is Gouda. Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at January 24, 2020 11:31 AM (/bKlZ)

Cheese thread.

Posted by: Zod at January 24, 2020 11:32 AM (u4/yY)

76
Traditionally, if you ask someone to name all of the Mag 7, Brad Dexter is the one that trips everyone up.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 24, 2020 11:32 AM (kw0bd)

77 "I thought you were a lady! "

things never uttered to "Brianna Wu" or to Yaniv

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at January 24, 2020 11:33 AM (NMIkx)

78 VELVEETA!!!!!

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 24, 2020 11:33 AM (Boy/L)

79 I keep my house cool but I've raised the temperature for my African house guest. The thermostat is set at 71 and it feels like a sauna in here.

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at January 24, 2020 11:33 AM (Uu+Jp)

80 The Robe with Susan Hayward and Victor Mature and Michael Rennie as Peter the apostle.

Posted by: I watch paint dry at January 24, 2020 11:33 AM (WX+x0)

81 Yikes, that is a horrid story up top.

I have no doubt that young lady you were acquainted with had serious mental problems later on.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 24, 2020 11:33 AM (2PXwn)

82 Did you know that red stuff around Gouda is wax and you're not supposed to eat it?

It's my favorite part.

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 24, 2020 11:33 AM (1ISKN)

83
Demetrius and the Gladiators. The sequel to The Robe
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 24, 2020 11:30 AM (mpeBU)

And prequel to Airplane!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 24, 2020 11:33 AM (pNxlR)

84 I thought you were a lady!

*faints*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill

don't you have a stinky diaper to change?
*smirk*

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 24, 2020 11:34 AM (d7Ww2)

85 So then, the only problem with the meme is that the word 'Klanbake' wasn't used. Snopes is pretty funny. If someone accuses the Democrats of killing 3 men and a dog, Snopes will produce a picture of the dog, alive, and shriek 'THIS CLAIM IS FALSE!
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Snopes is useless. Since the mask came off and they became obvious left-wing propaganda, it is no longer fit for purpose. It is just a joke machine that feeds the Babylon Bee at this point.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 24, 2020 11:34 AM (I2dne)

86 Someone is some form unda cheese. From unda my balls.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at January 24, 2020 11:34 AM (pw+jk)

87 84 I thought you were a lady!

*faints*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill

don't you have a stinky diaper to change?
*smirk*
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 24, 2020 11:34 AM (d7Ww2)

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I'm at work!

Huzzah...what?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 24, 2020 11:34 AM (q80AH)

88 Did you know that red stuff around Gouda is wax and you're not supposed to eat it?

It's my favorite part.
Posted by: Joe Biden at January 24, 2020 11:33 AM (1ISKN)

THIS ECONOMY IS ABOUT PEOPLE CLIPPING CHEESE RINDS IN THE STREET.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 24, 2020 11:35 AM (Boy/L)

89 Was it here that I read Yul Brynner point-blank refused to do a sequel to Mag 7 because Steve McQueen was such an outrageous scene-stealer?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at January 24, 2020 11:35 AM (dfRN6)

90 Traditionally, if you ask someone to name all of the Mag 7, Brad Dexter is the one that trips everyone up.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 24, 2020 11:32 AM (kw0bd)
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Pretty much. The other six went on to have big careers (Horst Buchholz was huge in Germany), Brad Dexter went on to be - Frank Sinatra's buddy.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 24, 2020 11:35 AM (jW9oF)

91 Also, agree on Trump and I think that is a big reason the NTs hate him. He is more effectively conservative than those with credentials. He is the wrong persona and has the wrong history. He is doing what they claim to want (in general, though not on trade or war - basically, his domestic policy is basically what they want) but he is just a bad fit. He's not a typical cog in the wheel they created and therefore is just the worst.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 24, 2020 11:35 AM (I2dne)

92
79 I keep my house cool but I've raised the temperature for my African house guest. The thermostat is set at 71 and it feels like a sauna in here.
Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at January 24, 2020 11:33 AM (Uu+Jp)

Barky Claus is comin' to town?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 24, 2020 11:35 AM (pNxlR)

93 Traditionally, if you ask someone to name all of the Mag 7, Brad Dexter is the one that trips everyone up.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 24, 2020

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Yeah, I had to go look up his name. I could picture his face; I knew he was one of Frank Sinatra's buddies in addition to being an actor; but I couldn't bring up his name.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 11:35 AM (Ejm1K)

94 I thought you were a lady!

*faints*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 24, 2020 11:31 AM (q80AH)
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Shirley Muldowney once cussed out a pit crew while maintaining that "she is a lady."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 24, 2020 11:35 AM (RgUiP)

95 Our oldest is close to 40 now. She was not planned and one of my bosses suggested the abortion route. Rejected that flat out. Her arrival made me grow up quickly and the joy she has brought us cannot be described in words but I can't imagine the vacuum not having her would have left in my soul.
a few years later I was the dorm manager at a barracks in Japan. One of the female residents came to me one day with a business card that had obviously been passed around a lot. It was for a local doctor who would do the abortions (at the time health of the mother had to be justification to collect the fee and do the "procedure"). She was around 20 weeks and worried about safety of doctor. My wife is Japanese and called the doctor. He took great offense at being asked but did explain that he would do them and was a legitimate doctor. Told the resident and I guess she went through with it. Tried to tell myself...you have to present the facts not your moral choices...you are an NCO. Her kid would be 28 or 29 now. Still feel unclean for being involved with that.

Posted by: Brad at January 24, 2020 11:35 AM (oQLDZ)

96 Posted by: Hillary Radium Clinton at January 24, 2020 11:25 AM (Ndje9)

For those that haven't seen it at Instapundit, here's an amusing riff on Hillary.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/355796/

Posted by: DR.WTF at January 24, 2020 11:36 AM (aS1PU)

97 The movie is one likely to be recommended by Captain Oeuver.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor Austere Religious Scholar at January 24, 2020 11:18 AM (+/QPx)

Demetrius and the Gladiators. The sequel to The Robe

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 24, 2020 11:30 AM (mpeBU)

There you go!

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 24, 2020 11:36 AM (+/QPx)

98 "Cheese is Gouda."

I recently discovered Gouda, and I agree, it is gooda!
Posted by: Chris M at January 24, 2020 11:32 AM (eAZVt)
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Another cheese that fills same space for me is Edam. They're similar but distinct. Both are good.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 24, 2020 11:36 AM (I2dne)

99 But we can't do that, because Trump is no SuperConservative and heck, we didn't even LIKE the guy and only voted for him because the only alternative was a corrupt old drunk.

Realpolitik at it's finest. Which is why "Evangelicals, you are evil....." is meaningless.

Someone is going to win whether you vote or not. If you live in a state overwhelmingly one way, your individual vote doesn't mean much (I still want the electoral college), but someone is going to win regardless. In a state where your vote won't count, vote your conscience. In a state where it does count, vote for whomever is going to do the best for you or at least won't screw you over as bad as the other candidate.

Posted by: Groundhog at January 24, 2020 11:36 AM (VYwSh)

100 79 I keep my house cool but I've raised the temperature for my African house guest. The thermostat is set at 71 and it feels like a sauna in here.
Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at January 24, 2020 11:33 AM (Uu+Jp)

Barky Claus is comin' to town?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 24, 2020 11:35 AM (pNxlR)

My guest is actually a good person.

Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at January 24, 2020 11:37 AM (Uu+Jp)

101

Cheese Wax is People!

Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at January 24, 2020 11:37 AM (/bKlZ)

102 99 Someone is going to win whether you vote or not. If you live in a state overwhelmingly one way, your individual vote doesn't mean much (I still want the electoral college), but someone is going to win regardless. In a state where your vote won't count, vote your conscience. In a state where it does count, vote for whomever is going to do the best for you or at least won't screw you over as bad as the other candidate.
Posted by: Groundhog at January 24, 2020 11:36 AM (VYwSh)

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I voted for Gary Johnson in 2016.

I'm voting for Trump in 2020.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 24, 2020 11:37 AM (q80AH)

103 25 18 love the way the author of this post feels compelled to virtue signal that he doesn't consider Trump to be a good person. And wants the world to know it loud and clear. why not stop writing about the man if you don't think he is fit for polite company? Gutless prick.
Posted by: Ched R Chze at January 24, 2020 11:22 AM (p11g/)

Oh lighten up, Francis. The man has flaws. Isn't it obvious?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 24, 2020 11:25 AM (+/QPx)

If one wanted to provide some religious context to those thoughts, I'd suggest 1 Corinthians 1:27
"For God has chosen the foolish things of this world to shame the wise, God chose the weak things of this world to shame the strong."

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 24, 2020 11:37 AM (Kpl3J)

104 Well now we know what happens when Cheez Whiz goes bad.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 24, 2020 11:37 AM (iPsjM)

105

Edam right, cheese is good!

Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at January 24, 2020 11:38 AM (/bKlZ)

106 When you make Gooda cheese you need a wax casing to hold the liquid paste in until it forments.
That the wax casing taste good is just dick ream on the cherry.
Little known fact South Armenia was the leader in making gooda cheese from 100 BC to 1200 BC.
My word as a Biden and cheeze conosour.

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 24, 2020 11:38 AM (pw+jk)

107 Pretty much. The other six went on to have big careers (Horst Buchholz was huge in Germany), Brad Dexter went on to be - Frank Sinatra's buddy.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 24, 2020

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Buchholz, apparently, was responsible for James Cagney's retirement from movies. They did Billy Wilder's One! Two! Three!, and Buchholz was such a scene-stealer (so goes the story) that Cagney, who was about ready to retire anyway, threw up his hands and didn't act again until Ragtime some 20 years later.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 11:38 AM (Ejm1K)

108
Susan Hayward and Victor Mature.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2020 11:38 AM (zBaqJ)

109 Cheese is Gouda. Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at January 24, 2020 11:31 AM (/bKlZ)

Cheese thread.

Posted by: Zod at January 24, 2020 11:32 AM

Cougar Gold!!!

Posted by: Diogenes in barrel at January 24, 2020 11:38 AM (zkt/z)

110 Was it here that I read Yul Brynner point-blank refused to do a sequel to Mag 7 because Steve McQueen was such an outrageous scene-stealer?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at January 24, 2020 11:35 AM (dfRN6)
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Don't know about that, but Brynner did get him to cool it by saying, "If you keep that up, I'll take off my hat and no one will look at you again!"

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 24, 2020 11:38 AM (jW9oF)

111 99
But we can't do that, because Trump is no SuperConservative and heck, we
didn't even LIKE the guy and only voted for him because the only
alternative was a corrupt old drunk.

Worse were the fake conservatives who voted *for* the corrupt old drunk.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at January 24, 2020 11:38 AM (XzVUd)

112 http://bit.ly/2RQ1H4d
*******
Trump just retweeted this from Sen. Blackburn.

Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at January 24, 2020 11:38 AM (BqBId)

113 I know she's a Ginger but the female #WhosDis is kinda taking my breath away.

Posted by: Blanco at January 24, 2020 11:38 AM (mgx4p)

114 Tom Servo

Even better - "the stone the builders rejected."

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 24, 2020 11:38 AM (iPsjM)

115 Ah, the lovely and talented Susan Hayward. Another Brooklyn hottie.

Posted by: kallisto at January 24, 2020 11:38 AM (UWzjE)

116 I voted for Gary Johnson in 2016.

I think it better if we pretend that you didn't say that.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 24, 2020 11:38 AM (Boy/L)

117
I camembert this cheese thread...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2020 11:38 AM (zBaqJ)

118

Myrna Loy?

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at January 24, 2020 11:39 AM (6oTOl)

119 Well my life has changed a bunch since I first became her Dad, but my 16 year old officially adopted daughter was the result of her mother (my ex now) being drugged and raped. She kept the baby.

One of the lights of my life and she is going to help change this society like many others that mothers chose life.

Posted by: H Badger at January 24, 2020 11:39 AM (n/0Nw)

120 >>Another cheese that fills same space for me is Edam. They're similar but distinct. Both are good. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 24, 2020 11:36 AM (I2dne)

Both are mesophilic "washed-rind" cheeses, which accounts for the similarity. They're brined in salt solution prior to air-drying and waxing.
Cheese thread.

Posted by: Zod at January 24, 2020 11:39 AM (ZS9TG)

121 You voted for Al Leppo?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 24, 2020 11:40 AM (iPsjM)

122 I camembert this cheese thread...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2020 11:38 AM (zBaqJ)

Feeling bleu, Sefton?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 24, 2020 11:40 AM (Boy/L)

123 Aside from basic Christian tenets on the sanctity of life, what really made an impression on me is how the left will fight against the death penalty for a murderer, then turn around and insist on the death penalty for the innocent.

In any pregnancy, there are multiple parties involved, the mother, the father, and the baby. Of all of these, the only completely innocent party is the baby, and that is the only one that is facing death for being inconvenient.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at January 24, 2020 11:40 AM (YslsA)

124 thank you James Madison.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at January 24, 2020 11:40 AM (NMIkx)

125 why not stop writing about the man if you don't think he is fit for polite company?

So you're saying OM is going to join Gabe? Who'll get custody of the monkey?

Posted by: Ian S. at January 24, 2020 11:40 AM (ZGrMX)

126 Cougar Gold!!!

The Cougar Gold burger at Saute in Clarkston WA may be the best burger on the planet.

Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at January 24, 2020 11:40 AM (/bKlZ)

127 You can use gouda cheese on pizza instead of, or with, mozzarella.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 24, 2020 11:40 AM (l4C/z)

128 Victor Mature is like Burt Lancaster for me.

They both suck as actors and I can hardly stand to watch a movie with either of them in it.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 24, 2020 11:40 AM (MT9xU)

129 "The Jesuits profit from the exaggerations of their enemies. Accused of killing three men and a dog, they triumphantly produce the dog." - George Tyrell
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 24, 2020 11:32 AM (7rVsF)

Busted!

But yes, that is the quote I stole and repurposed. I never knew who originally said it, though.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 24, 2020 11:40 AM (+/QPx)

130 115 Ah, the lovely and talented Susan Hayward. Another Brooklyn hottie.
Posted by: kallisto at January 24, 2020 11:38 AM (UWzjE)

My favorites are still Ruby Stevens, a fellow alumnus of PS 152, and Constance Frances Marie Ockelman.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2020 11:40 AM (zBaqJ)

131 I remember Roger Ebert years ago (the 90s) referring to Keanu Reeves as "today's Victor Mature."

Posted by: sinalco at January 24, 2020 11:40 AM (yODqO)

132 116 I voted for Gary Johnson in 2016.

I think it better if we pretend that you didn't say that.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 24, 2020 11:38 AM (Boy/L)

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I freely admit it.

I live in SC. There was no question where the state was going to go. I want the Libertarian Party to become a serious party as well, so I tried to help it get to 5% nationally so it could become eligible for public funding.

It hit 3.5%. Oh well. That was its year, and that was the best it could do.

Now, the LP's historical average of the national vote is about 1%.

Where is that 2.5% going to go in 2020?

That's a fun thought experiment.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 24, 2020 11:41 AM (q80AH)

133 Both are mesophilic "washed-rind" cheeses, which accounts for the similarity. They're brined in salt solution prior to air-drying and waxing.
Cheese thread.
Posted by: Zod at January 24, 2020 11:39 AM (ZS9TG)
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Well, I learned more about cheese than I did before. Since I learned something, I get to go home now...

Also, cheese thread sucks. Clothes come apart almost immediately and never survive the laundry.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 24, 2020 11:41 AM (I2dne)

134 Posted by: Ched R Chze at January 24, 2020 11:22 AM (p11g/)

Snort! You funny!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Purveyor of Locally Sourced artisinal Hogwash at January 24, 2020 11:41 AM (xPJvm)

135 We have a cut rate Chuckie Cheese ripoff here in town named Charlie Cheddar.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 24, 2020 11:41 AM (+y/Ru)

136 122 I camembert this cheese thread...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2020 11:38 AM (zBaqJ)

Feeling bleu, Sefton?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 24, 2020 11:40 AM (Boy/L)

Nah, but I have a stilton view of things...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2020 11:41 AM (zBaqJ)

137 Also, cheese thread sucks. Clothes come apart almost immediately and never survive the laundry.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 24, 2020 11:41 AM (I2dne)
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Did you try adding wax?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at January 24, 2020 11:41 AM (RgUiP)

138 This is a scurrilous lie and calumnious slander, the KKK has never been an active component of the Republican Party.

Maybe individual Republicans were involved in the GOP but the KKK was and has always been the military wing of the Democrat Party.

And is now largely and FBI/LE cut-out/boogeyman.

Posted by: Mr. Wiffle Snuff at January 24, 2020 11:42 AM (yefUV)

139 "South Armenia was the leader in making gooda cheese from 100 BC to 1200 BC."

this might even be true. wasn't the Anatolia / Iran region at the forefront of mesolithic animal husbandry?

I mean, not like it is now.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at January 24, 2020 11:42 AM (NMIkx)

140 117

I camembert this cheese thread...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2020 11:38 AM (zBaqJ)

I don't give Edam.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 24, 2020 11:42 AM (+/QPx)

141 But on to abortion, I guess I never was fooled. I always knew that pregnant women created babies and if you stopped the pregnancy with surgical violence, you were killing someone.

So that's always been my benchmark: when is it justified to kill? For the record, sometimes I think it's a justifiable homicide. Convenience, however, is never a justification, neither is poverty or being stupid/gullible/unlucky.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 24, 2020 11:42 AM (l4C/z)

142 Victor Mature might not have been a great actor, but he always had great charisma. No matter what he played, he felt like a guy that you'd just to love to hang out with.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 24, 2020 11:42 AM (Kpl3J)

143 I was 12 the first time I saw ,'I Want To Live!' on TV. That movie stuck with me for a while. Sad. Also the sight of a gas chamber.

Posted by: kallisto at January 24, 2020 11:42 AM (UWzjE)

144 I had to look it up. Susan Hayward not only was nominated for Best Actress for I Want to Live!, but won it in 1959. That was kind of her peak -- but then she'd been in movies for 20 years at that point.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 11:42 AM (Ejm1K)

145
Chad Archies.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2020 11:42 AM (zBaqJ)

146
You can liederkranz to water but you can't make it stink.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 24, 2020 11:43 AM (MT9xU)

147 >>Also, agree on Trump and I think that is a big reason the NTs hate him.
He is more effectively conservative than those with credentials. He is
the wrong persona and has the wrong history. He is doing what they claim
to want (in general, though not on trade or war - basically, his
domestic policy is basically what they want) but he is just a bad fit.
He's not a typical cog in the wheel they created and therefore is just
the worst.

Her rejects all of their values and norms -- the DC values and norms. He doesn't seek out the advice and flatter their 'thought leaders', he doesn't buy their conventional wisdom, he doesn't follow their processes. The man dares to do what hew wants, how he wants, and he could not care less whose feathers are ruffled along the way.

And then what really gets them? We love this so much -- this giant FU to our would-be DC masters -- that we can accept that not everything he does is perfect, successful and/or in line with what we wanted to be done.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 24, 2020 11:43 AM (bDqIh)

148 The Cougar Gold burger at Saute in Clarkston WA may be the best burger on the planet.

Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at January 24, 2020 11:40 AM

***

Good to know. I was in Clarkston a couple of months ago.

**makes note to self**
Sautes

Posted by: Diogenes in barrel at January 24, 2020 11:43 AM (zkt/z)

149 I do not want to be anywhere near when AtC sees that umbrella. Nuking from orbit would be only the start.
Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at January 24, 2020 11:27 AM

Exploding spider umbrellas? Yeah. I'm thinking the thread gets hit with her flamethrower.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 24, 2020 11:44 AM (ejd/p)

150 And is now largely and FBI/LE cut-out/boogeyman.

A million times this.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 24, 2020 11:44 AM (Boy/L)

151 To answer The Gorilla's question about when I realized I was pro-life ... In the 1980s, I was working as a research assistant in the surgery department at a major teaching hospital in Chicago; I was the guy who typed up the papers and ran the stats programs and pulled the charts and prepared the slides for talks. From time to time, I was in the pathology department; that's where they slice and dice and analyze tissues taken from patients, including the tissues labeled "POC" ("Product Of Conception", i.e., a baby). One day, I was there with one of the surgical residents, whom I will not name because I don't want to destroy his career. On the bench was a formalin jar with a fetus in it - a late one, almost the size of my two fists balled up together. The child had had trisomy 18, which is a major genetic defect (though he/she looked normal to my untrained eyes), and had miscarried. Suddenly, the resident picked up the jar and thrust it into my hands, and said, "I don't care what anyone says: this is life!" You can imagine my shock. I'm staring at this poor child whose body I'm holding, and all I could think was, "My God. You're right. This is life."

That's my story. Every detail is true. I can name names and give dates, should it ever be necessary. And yes: this is life.

Posted by: Brown Line at January 24, 2020 11:44 AM (S6ArX)

152 137 Also, cheese thread sucks. Clothes come apart almost immediately and never survive the laundry.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 24, 2020 11:41 AM (I2dne)

then what good is cheesecloth, anyways?

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 24, 2020 11:44 AM (Kpl3J)

153 Story idea:

Panic over a thing that's going to kill everyone, but the thing never materializes.

Story ends with real thing that's going to kill everyone, but no one reacts with any fear.

Yeah...the boy who cried wolf, but global thriller.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 24, 2020 11:44 AM (q80AH)

154 I'm a Gruyere man myself.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 24, 2020 11:44 AM (+y/Ru)

155 >>Well, I learned more about cheese than I did before. Since I learned something, I get to go home now... Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 24, 2020 11:41 AM (I2dne)

No.
You will learn more about cheese.
When making cheddar, the cut curd must be gently heated, or the curds will tighten and refuse to expel any more whey prior to breaking 100 degrees. Also, rushing through the cheddaring phase (stacking the sliced curd masses) and the milling phase (breaking the curd masses by hand with salt after cheddaring) will result in an inferior final product.
Cheese thread.

Posted by: Zod at January 24, 2020 11:44 AM (ZS9TG)

156 Philip Deal, founder of Mr. Pole Dance America, told the LGBT publication that Buttigieg's decision was "shameful."

To the wiseacre teasing me from a previous thread (Can't find the comment now) who thinks that I should have pole dancing in the church to raise money

-ummm. no, although that would be creative way to drive older people( and everybody else) from the church without actually telling them "You go now. Come back in two years-maybe." I tell you what, why don't you go to your church pastor and tell him that you're Mr Pole Dancer ________(name of state) and offer to do a fundraiser during Sunday services? Happy polling!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 24, 2020 11:44 AM (WI7YS)

157 Dat's a notta gooda cheese.

Posted by: Chico Marx at January 24, 2020 11:44 AM (l3+k2)

158 Boulder t'hobo at January 24, 2020 11:42 AM (NMIkx)

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LOL!!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at January 24, 2020 11:45 AM (pw+jk)

159 My favorites are still Ruby Stevens, a fellow alumnus of PS 152, and Constance Frances Marie Ockelman.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 24, 2020 11:40 AM (zBaqJ)

Thanks!

( *scribbles notes* )

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 24, 2020 11:45 AM (+/QPx)

160 Gary Johnson and Prometheus?

Good Lord man!!

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 24, 2020 11:45 AM (VzbI8)

161 Lindsey Graham holding court at press conference.

Posted by: WisRich at January 24, 2020 11:45 AM (G0vdT)

162 First major US publication to go full Stalin and toss own reporting down memory hole is @politico
. We're watching a once in a lifetime event - the self-immolation of an entire elite

Posted by: SMOD at January 24, 2020 11:45 AM (3aI0K)

163 160 Gary Johnson and Prometheus?

Good Lord man!!
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 24, 2020 11:45 AM (VzbI

==========

I also watch Andrei Tarkovsky movies for fun.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 24, 2020 11:45 AM (q80AH)

164

Saute on 6th st. Call for a reservation or go to the bar downstairs during busy times. Go early if you want the special.

Pro Tip: After 8pm is Happy Hour, and the CG bacon garlic aoli burger is also half price - $8 with garlic potatoes.

Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at January 24, 2020 11:46 AM (/bKlZ)

165 Aleppo!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 24, 2020 11:46 AM (aKsyK)

166 I didn't know the Dwemer made umbrellas.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Brighten Your Gloom with Doom Polish from The Outrage Outlet! at January 24, 2020 11:46 AM (hLRSq)

167 "Nothing is a better example of the importance of women's reproductive rights than facilitating the lifestyle of whores and loose women. "

and nothing shows one's character as a man and as a defender of woman like playing the ghoul.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at January 24, 2020 11:46 AM (NMIkx)

168 WWII trivia

Q: Name the last ship still afloat from Operation Leader.

A: HMS Belfast.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 24, 2020 11:46 AM (iPsjM)

169
I enjoyed "After the Fox" where Mature played a washed-up actor.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 24, 2020 11:46 AM (7rVsF)

170 He rejects all of their values and norms -- the DC values and norms.

And those norms are that you are what your credentials say you are. Obama made it very clear to people who were paying attention that that has never been true.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 24, 2020 11:46 AM (ZGrMX)

171 Cheese Grommit!

Posted by: Wallace at January 24, 2020 11:47 AM (IttZ7)

172 This is a scurrilous lie and calumnious slander, the KKK has never been an active component of the Republican Party.

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The KKK was created largely to oppose the Republican Party.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 24, 2020 11:47 AM (+y/Ru)

173 I was always a strong pro-life supporter, but always in the abstract. I think the secular argument against abortion is the strongest, A) because I'm not a believer, and B) it's the non-believer (usually) who must be convinced.

The strongest argument in favor of it is a pathetically weak one - "personhood", because no one has ever sufficiently explained to my layman self the physiological process by which the birth canal imparts this philosophical concept. Any other argument for it just doesn't pass muster among civilized human beings.

Then I got to help deliver my daughter and son. Caught the slippery little purple things as they came out. After getting control of myself in that truly awe-inspiring moment and suddenly "getting" all the cliches about childbirth and its overwhelming, miraculous nature, the ugly thought of abortion did cross my mind, and how utterly monstrous it is to deny such perfect little entities their precious little lives.

I used to consider myself open to persuasion on the subject. Used to.

Posted by: McLurkerson at January 24, 2020 11:47 AM (PNCUr)

174 Looks like Boeing's DirecTV MAX8 satellite is having some orbital troubles.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 24, 2020 11:47 AM (dNzKv)

175 Zod talking about cheese is somehow more surprising than TJM voting for Gary Johnson.

Love this site.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 24, 2020 11:47 AM (l4C/z)

176 >Damn, for once I know the celebrities but so does everyone else.

Posted by: Jewells45 at January 24, 2020 11:29 AM (dUJdY)

Hi Jewells! I have a cool story for you. My best friend is a pilot for United. He has been picked to fly the Chiefs from KC to Miami for the Super Bowl. 767-400. He is stoked, even though he is a Bear fan.

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 24, 2020 11:47 AM (sjdRT)

177
I have many reasons to have been annoyed or even angry with my (step)daughter, who still is unwed, but her decision over a dozen years ago not to abort her baby and instead carry him to term and place him in an open adoption clinched matters for me. I commended both her and the father for resisting the siren call of the "disposable humans" lobby.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 24, 2020 11:48 AM (pNxlR)

178 132 JamesMadison,

A pure libertarian would blanch at accepting government funding as it comes from involuntary taxes on everyone.

You sir, are no true libertarian. (Just kidding).

Posted by: whig at January 24, 2020 11:48 AM (EUDB2)

179 I also watch Andrei Tarkovsky movies for fun.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 24, 2020 11:45 AM (q80AH)

Samurai Jack, Clone Wars, Dexter's Lab - that's some good stuff!

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 24, 2020 11:48 AM (Kpl3J)

180 A: HMS Belfast.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 24, 2020 11:46 AM (iPsjM)

If you are in London it is a fun ship to visit. Moored on the Thames.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 24, 2020 11:48 AM (dLLD6)

181 Her rejects all of their values and norms -- the DC values and norms. He doesn't seek out the advice and flatter their 'thought leaders', he doesn't buy their conventional wisdom, he doesn't follow their processes. The man dares to do what hew wants, how he wants, and he could not care less whose feathers are ruffled along the way.

And then what really gets them? We love this so much -- this giant FU to our would-be DC masters -- that we can accept that not everything he does is perfect, successful and/or in line with what we wanted to be done.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 24, 2020 11:43 AM

What they really hate (besides the loss of that sweet sweet graft money) is the NTs think they are the smartest guys in the room, but PDT really IS the smartest guy in the room. And they know it.

Posted by: Diogenes in barrel at January 24, 2020 11:48 AM (zkt/z)

182 Venezuelan Beaver Cheese?

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 24, 2020 11:48 AM (jW9oF)

183 168 WWII trivia

Q: Name the last ship still afloat from Operation Leader.

A: HMS Belfast.
Posted by: Anna Puma

Ulstermen are a stubborn lot.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 24, 2020 11:48 AM (vN4+Q)

184 172 This is a scurrilous lie and calumnious slander, the KKK has never been an active component of the Republican Party.

-
The KKK was created largely to oppose the Republican Party.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 24, 2020 11:47 AM (+y/Ru)

Creepy Joe seems to particularly like accusing people of being part of the kkk.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 24, 2020 11:49 AM (Uu+Jp)

185 Well now we know what happens when Cheez Whiz goes bad.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 24, 2020 11:37 AM

It hangs around smoking on street corners with the sour cream and then knocks over a liquor store?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 24, 2020 11:49 AM (ejd/p)

186 155 Posted by: Zod at January 24, 2020 11:44 AM (ZS9TG)
+++++++++++
Along with all of the other things, I learned that "cheddar" can be made into a verb for the purpose of describing the cheese making process.

Unless you just made it up, but the Zod I know wouldn't do that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 24, 2020 11:49 AM (I2dne)

187 178 132 JamesMadison,

A pure libertarian would blanch at accepting government funding as it comes from involuntary taxes on everyone.

You sir, are no true libertarian. (Just kidding).
Posted by: whig at January 24, 2020 11:48 AM (EUDB2)

=========

Yeah, if they did hit the 5%, it was unclear whether they would have accepted the funding at all. Probably not.

But it was probably the best chance the party ever had to try and maximize its appeal.

And it chose Gary Farkin' Johnson as its candidate.

Really, all that party cares about is weed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 24, 2020 11:49 AM (q80AH)

188 Anybody used "Cheese it, the cops!" yet?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 11:49 AM (Ejm1K)

189 174 Looks like Boeing's DirecTV MAX8 satellite is having some orbital troubles.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 24, 2020 11:47 AM (dNzKv)

The universe is telling them that it's sick of them calling things "MAX".

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 24, 2020 11:49 AM (Kpl3J)

190 174 Looks like Boeing's DirecTV MAX8 satellite is having some orbital troubles.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 24, 2020 11:47 AM (dNzKv)
-------

Did the guy manning the Chinese space laser get the coronavirus and hit the kill button when he sneezed?

Posted by: WisRich at January 24, 2020 11:49 AM (G0vdT)

191 Venezuelan Beaver Cheese?

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 24, 2020 11:48 AM (jW9oF)

casu marzu

Posted by: BignJames at January 24, 2020 11:49 AM (X/Pw5)

192 Graft Cheese is the best cheese.

Posted by: NTs at January 24, 2020 11:50 AM (l3+k2)

193 I really became solidly "pro-life" as a result of thinking about 2A issues, and the nature and ethics of violence.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 24, 2020 11:50 AM (FOGOI)

194 Still feel unclean for being involved with that.

Gerard Van der Leun at American Digest posted about his personal journey with abortion (one living daughter, two other children aborted at the mother's insistence) last summer. Here is a link to his story:

https://tinyurl.com/welcyjb

As he puts it, "With abortion, you never get to know what you are missing. That's part of the deal. And that . . . is the private hell that everyone involved in an abortion enters. It's not a hell you're in and then walk out of, but a hell that burns within you forever. There are no fire escapes."

Posted by: Basement Cat at January 24, 2020 11:50 AM (pPNCa)

195 142 Victor Mature might not have been a great actor, but he always had great charisma. No matter what he played, he felt like a guy that you'd just to love to hang out with.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 24, 2020 11:42 AM (Kpl3J)

Yes, I think he would have been pretty cool to hang out with, as well. I recently heard him in a radio drama (Suspense) and he was pretty good in that.

Not a big fan of his movies, though.

Posted by: charlotte the sailor at January 24, 2020 11:50 AM (/rsCS)

196 "Now I'm going to ask you that question once more, and if you say 'no' I'm going to shoot you through the head."

Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at January 24, 2020 11:50 AM (/bKlZ)

197 I became pro-life because I wish to control women's bodies and place them into perpetual servitude where I will abort their babies that I don't want.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 24, 2020 11:50 AM (q80AH)

198 What a surprise, Bill Kristol and George Conway have another grift, another

Has there ever been someone given so much money and attention for so little influence and so few results in the history of human kind?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 24, 2020 11:51 AM (KZzsI)

199 Veronica Lake is one of those women who just are a timeless standard of beauty.

It's weird. She's not, objectively, on the same level as far as body goes compared to Rita Hayworth, Raquel Welch, Christie Brinkley or any of the instagram hotties KBdaBear shares with us.

But she's magnetic. Far more so to me than Marylin Monroe.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 24, 2020 11:51 AM (l4C/z)

200 You guys kraft some funny cheese puns. I'm trying to process them all.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 24, 2020 11:51 AM (VzbI8)

201 WWII trivia

Q: Name the last ship still afloat from Operation Leader.

A: HMS Belfast.
Posted by: Anna Puma

Ulstermen are a stubborn lot.
Posted by: Puddleglum at January 24, 2020

*
*

An ulster is also a kind of topcoat or raincoat, I think. ("Damn the fellow, he was as tightly buttoned as cheap ulster.") And it's also a part of, or a type of, furniture?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 11:51 AM (Ejm1K)

202 I was the guy who typed up the papers and ran the stats programs and pulled the charts and prepared the slides for talks. From time to time, I was in the pathology department; that's where they slice and dice and analyze tissues taken from patients, including the tissues labeled "POC" ("Product Of Conception", i.e., a baby).
Posted by: Brown Line at January 24, 2020 11:44 AM (S6ArX)

POC also stands for "pieces of children."

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 24, 2020 11:51 AM (+/QPx)

203 Looks like Boeing's DirecTV MAX8 satellite is having some orbital troubles.

That's actually not so bad - it's a 15 year old satellite that was intended to only work for 12 years and doesn't carry any active data right now (they're using it as a backup).

Posted by: Ian S. at January 24, 2020 11:51 AM (ZGrMX)

204 @Techno_Fog

Flynn case update -

Judge Sullivan asks the parties to address whether there needs to be an evidentiary hearing on Flynn's effort to withdraw his guilty plea.

Hearing may include "testimony from Mr. Flynn and other witnesses under oath, subject to cross-examination"

https://tinyurl.com/qstytp4

Posted by: Tami at January 24, 2020 11:51 AM (cF8AT)

205 Philip Deal, founder of Mr. Pole Dance America, told the LGBT publication that Buttigieg's decision was "shameful."

-
Shameless call Buttboy shameful. Speaking of shameless incidentally . . .

https://bit.ly/2RnNpIL

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 24, 2020 11:52 AM (+y/Ru)

206 Well, God once chose an adulterer who had the husband killed in battle, which is a bit worse than divorce and adultry

Posted by: Chuck C at January 24, 2020 11:52 AM (IG9gl)

207 Correction: an "ulster" is not a part of furniture. I was thinking of 'bolster." Carry on.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 11:52 AM (Ejm1K)

208 I am usually 'don't ask don't tell' for most social issues. However, the incredible scientific leaps over the past 50 years changed me from don't ask to no way.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 24, 2020 11:52 AM (MIKMs)

209 Well, I can't find the book that has my Susan Hayward story, so I will try to summarize -

In 1973, she was diagnosed with brain cancer (a theory has it that it was as a result of the 1956 John Wayne film The Conqueror, filmed in an area where fallout remained from atom bomb testing).

In 1974, she was asked to be a presenter at the Academy Awards, but because of the ravages of the cancer and chemotherapy, she had lost her hair and beauty and did not want to appear. Promised that makeup would restore her beauty, she reluctantly agreed.

Makeup did its work - with foundation, lipstick, wig and spangled dress, she looked as lovely as she ever had.

Waiting backstage to present the Best Actress award, she was visibly shaking. Heston took her by the arm, whispered "Easy, girl," and proudly escorted her to the stage, like the gentleman he was.

This clip doesn't show them coming out, but it does show the two of them. I'm sorry I couldn't tell a better story:

https://tinyurl.com/ko65q4d

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 24, 2020 11:52 AM (Ki5SV)

210 166 I didn't know the Dwemer made umbrellas.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Brighten Your Gloom with Doom Polish from The Outrage Outlet! at January 24, 2020 11:46 AM (hLRSq)

And you don't even wanna know what they're doing over on LoversLab....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 24, 2020 11:52 AM (FOGOI)

211 "This is a scurrilous lie and calumnious slander, the KKK has never been an active component of the Republican Party."

________

Considering that Indiana had about 200K residents who were active Klan members, as well as a sitting Democrat governor back in the 1920s - I'd say the facts tend to rubbish all sorts of myths about political affiliations and the location of Klan sympathizers.

That's why the smarter ones tend to push the bullshit myth about the party switch - it starts a different argument.

Posted by: McLurkerson at January 24, 2020 11:53 AM (PNCUr)

212 I never "became" pro-life, the principle of humans being made in God's image and our lives being innately sacred was something I was raised in and see clearly on my own. The idea that somehow it is acceptable to kill a helpless, innocent baby just because it has not been born yet has always been shockingly horrific to me. The arguments in support of it have always seemed satanic. The supporters of it have always seemed at best horribly deluded and desperate.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 24, 2020 11:53 AM (KZzsI)

213 I've got an old sock with POC all over it.

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 24, 2020 11:53 AM (1ISKN)

214 More WWII trivia

Veronica Lake made a safety short telling all the women working in the defense industries not to copy her trademark hairstyle as that style was a safety hazard.

Alas after such fun movies as I Married a Witch with Frederick March she had a sad end.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 24, 2020 11:53 AM (iPsjM)

215 In my younger, liberal years I was pro-abortion. ***sigh***

However, I think that the way the libs basically made it their sacrament and how they treat it as some sort of "cancer" really made it clear to me how horrible it is. The baby didn't just happen. Unless you were raped, then the baby was conceived by 2 people who should take the responsibility.

I'm not saying the mother has to keep the baby. There is ALWAYS adoption.

Abortion is murder. No two ways about it.

Posted by: charlotte the sailor at January 24, 2020 11:53 AM (/rsCS)

216 Not a big fan of his movies, though.
Posted by: charlotte the sailor at January 24, 2020 11:50 AM (/rsCS)

Victor Mature rode the crest of the "Sand and Sandal" genre. Samson and Delilah is another one he made, with Hedy Lamar. I kind of enjoy the nostalgic cheesiness of them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 24, 2020 11:53 AM (Kpl3J)

217

As a teenager I once conned my mom into asking for Venezuelan Beaver Cheese at the deli.

She was not amused.

Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at January 24, 2020 11:53 AM (/bKlZ)

218 Judge Sullivan asks the parties to address whether there needs to be an evidentiary hearing on Flynn's effort to withdraw his guilty plea.

Hearing may include "testimony from Mr. Flynn and other witnesses under oath, subject to cross-examination"

https://tinyurl.com/qstytp4
Posted by: Tami at January 24, 2020 11:51 AM (cF8AT)
++++++++++++
My translator is buggy, but this comes across as Sullivan mandating a meeting to determine if they need a hearing to determine which evidence or statement will be used to continue railroading the defendant.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 24, 2020 11:53 AM (I2dne)

219 182 Venezuelan Beaver Cheese?
Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 24, 2020 11:48 AM (jW9oF)

+++++++

Not today, Sir, no!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at January 24, 2020 11:53 AM (dfRN6)

220 No.
You will learn more about cheese.
When making cheddar, the cut curd must be gently heated, or the curds will tighten and refuse to expel any more whey prior to breaking 100 degrees. Also, rushing through the cheddaring phase (stacking the sliced curd masses) and the milling phase (breaking the curd masses by hand with salt after cheddaring) will result in an inferior final product.
Cheese thread.
Posted by: Zod at January 24, 2020 11:44 AM

*saves for future reference*

And I still haven't made any cheese. I need to work on that.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 24, 2020 11:54 AM (ejd/p)

221 "Don't know about that, but Brynner did get him to cool it by saying, "If
you keep that up, I'll take off my hat and no one will look at you
again!""

Yes. I watch "Magnificent Seven" recently (actually, it was a double-feature with "Seven Samurai", both terrific movies); and if you watch McQueen, he's always fiddling with his hat - putting it on, taking it off, turning it in his hands. He also stained it with mineral oil to look sweaty. Oh, and if you see "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood," Brit actor Damien Lewis (who played Captain Winters in "Band of Brothers") does a terrific impersonation of McQueen.

And yes, gouda is very good. Our local supermarket sells a smoked gouda that is very, very good; a slice of it with turkey on rye is out of this world.

Posted by: Brown Line at January 24, 2020 11:54 AM (S6ArX)

222 Graham really letting the press have it. Came flat out and said Trump was entirely in the right to ask Ukraine to investigate Biden family.

Posted by: Dr. T at January 24, 2020 11:54 AM (2PXwn)

223 Ian S., yeah, it looked like Boeing overdelivered on its promise this time. Boeing deserve a lot of sh!t for its mistakes lately but this doesn't look like one of them.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at January 24, 2020 11:54 AM (NMIkx)

224 >>Unless you just made it up, but the Zod I know wouldn't do that. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 24, 2020 11:49 AM (I2dne)

This is correct.
Modern "cheddared" cheese (infidels refer to it as "cheddar" cheese) is waxed to age; prior to waxing, our cheesemaking forefathers bound the cheese with linen and a fat (lard, usually).

The latter results in a brittle mold crust after a few months. This (and the larded binding) is peeled off. It gives a better product. Zod has used this method only twice.
Cheese thread.

Posted by: Zod at January 24, 2020 11:54 AM (ZS9TG)

225 Yeah, if they did hit the 5%, it was unclear whether they would have accepted the funding at all. Probably not.
But it was probably the best chance the party ever had to try and maximize its appeal.
And it chose Gary Farkin' Johnson as its candidate.
Really, all that party cares about is weed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 24, 2020 11:49 AM (q80AH)

The Libertarians really need to split into two parties: the Small Government Party and the Weed Party.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 24, 2020 11:54 AM (+/QPx)

226 This is a scurrilous lie and calumnious slander, the KKK has never been an active component of the Republican Party.

It is not a lie to say that the Klan would at times support a Republican candidate who was in line with their ideas, or that some few Republicans did support or join the Klan.

But the KKK was a Democrat arm, a tool to suppress and attack blacks and prevent their becoming a part of mainstream society, prevent them from voting or participating in culture. It was almost entirely Democrat membership, Democrat backed, and Democrat supporting.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 24, 2020 11:55 AM (KZzsI)

227 187, JamesMadision,

In a first past the post system such as ours, a third party is useless other than to spur changes in major parties on a particular issue. See Durverget's law and Anthony Down's Economic Theory of Democracy for example.

Often, the third party becomes a corrupt vehicle, and Libertarians are particularly susceptible to this, for a major party such as the Dems to fund Libertarian candidates to siphon votes off from the Republican. The libertarian party is so weak that many of their candidates, cough William Weld, etc. are basically plants to fragment the vote. This will become even more prevalent if rank ordered voting,etc. becomes an issue or blanket primaries.

IN a PR system, all parties become corrupted as the deals that they make to get government offices in a majority coalition lead them to abandon purity. So a new party is created, and pretty soon you end up with parties of personalities or identities. Under such situation, divide and conquer lets the elites do what they want absent any sanction.

Posted by: whig at January 24, 2020 11:55 AM (EUDB2)

228 Gavin Webber has a good YouTube channel on cheesemaking.

I'd love to give it a shot this year, perhaps over the summer. Cheese and homemade mead.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at January 24, 2020 11:55 AM (wCmLp)

229 My pro-life moment: My son has health issues, the kind some abort for. There's nothing like seeing a baby in the NICU fighting so hard. That was him making the choice, one that shouldn't be robbed from a kid by a parent who thinks, "Oh, I don't want a tough life for my kid, it is kinder to abort."

Posted by: Lizzy at January 24, 2020 11:55 AM (bDqIh)

230 130. Is Concetta Maria Franconero a Brooklynette?

Posted by: kallisto at January 24, 2020 11:55 AM (UWzjE)

231 In my younger, liberal years I was pro-abortion. ***sigh***

Me too. Even after jettisoning liberalism, I didn't really think much about abortion.

What changed my mind re abortion: watching my first child born. Changed my mind on the spot.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 24, 2020 11:55 AM (YqDXo)

232
What good is cheesecloth? Why, for making cheese, of course!

Duh!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 24, 2020 11:55 AM (pNxlR)

233 My translator is buggy, but this comes across as
Sullivan mandating a meeting to determine if they need a hearing to
determine which evidence or statement will be used to continue
railroading the defendant.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 24, 2020 11:53 AM (I2dne)

===
Not buggy. Mine produced the same thing.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at January 24, 2020 11:55 AM (pw+jk)

234 Really, all that party cares about is weed.

"That's a lie!

We also care about legalizing prostitution and open borders."
--The Libertarian Party

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 24, 2020 11:55 AM (KZzsI)

235 > Buchholz, apparently, was responsible for James Cagney's retirement from movies. They did Billy Wilder's One! Two! Three!,
and Buchholz was such a scene-stealer (so goes the story) that Cagney, who was about ready to retire anyway, threw up his hands and didn't act
again until Ragtime some 20 years later

Watched about thirty minutes of One! Two! Three!years ago, and from what I saw Cagney's manic performance was so over-the-top that if Buchholz was dominating every scene with him he had to be the greatest scene-stealer that Hollywood has ever known.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at January 24, 2020 11:55 AM (SV7V4)

236 OH NO WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE RAAWWK!

Posted by: Propaganda Parrot at January 24, 2020 11:55 AM (Gc+kL)

237 Abortion is a slap in the face of a sovereign, holy, loving and fearsome Creator.

It's never okay. Ever.

Posted by: seriously yall at January 24, 2020 11:56 AM (sI15f)

238 Waiting backstage to present the Best Actress award, she was visibly shaking. Heston took her by the arm, whispered "Easy, girl," and proudly escorted her to the stage, like the gentleman he was.

This clip doesn't show them coming out, but it does show the two of them. I'm sorry I couldn't tell a better story:

https://tinyurl.com/ko65q4d
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 24, 2020

*
*

Some Hollywoodians had class in the old days. I hadn't heard that story. And Susan did look good in that clip!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 11:56 AM (Ejm1K)

239 234 Really, all that party cares about is weed.

"That's a lie!

We also care about legalizing prostitution and open borders."
--The Libertarian Party
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 24, 2020 11:55 AM (KZzsI)

=========

You'd drop 'em both if you had to choose between them and weed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 24, 2020 11:56 AM (q80AH)

240 Kristol and Conway. I'm pretty sure I saw them wearing blue ribbons at the State Fair. They tied for first in the pig contest.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 24, 2020 11:56 AM (fUqBx)

241 Mon Dieu!

Posted by: Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey at January 24, 2020 11:56 AM (l3+k2)

242 Susan Hazelwood and Victor Manure. C'mon man!

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 24, 2020 11:56 AM (OVkb/)

243 The latter results in a brittle mold crust after a few months. This (and the larded binding) is peeled off. It gives a better product. Zod has used this method only twice.
Cheese thread.
Posted by: Zod at January 24, 2020 11:54 AM (ZS9TG)
+++++++++++++
Huh. Queue the "The More You Know" bumper.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 24, 2020 11:56 AM (I2dne)

244 It was Hedy Lamar with Victor Mature in Samson and Delilah.

Posted by: An Observation at January 24, 2020 11:56 AM (zhMnl)

245 I became pro life as an atheist. (which I'm not anymore)
I realised that if an atheist is to have a philosophy, it has to be a humanist philosophy, and that requires humans.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at January 24, 2020 11:57 AM (NMIkx)

246 I wonder if Nancy Pelosi ever ponders if babies wating comfortably to die in Northam's organ farm have a spark of divinity.

Posted by: Gordon Shumway at January 24, 2020 11:57 AM (AGE12)

247 In 1973, she was diagnosed with brain cancer (a theory has it that it was as a result of the 1956 John Wayne film The Conqueror, filmed in an area where fallout remained from atom bomb testing)."

I've read that the number of people who were on the set of "The Conqueror" who died from cancer over the next 20 years is staggering.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 24, 2020 11:57 AM (Kpl3J)

248 SPRAY LYSOL ON EVERYTHING RAAWWK!!!

Posted by: Propaganda Parrot at January 24, 2020 11:57 AM (Gc+kL)

249 1. Must see movie - Mature in Cry of the City. Best scene is when the nurse goes to the door to meet Richard Conti. The nurse really makes the movie.

2. watched Trump's Tim Russert Potato interview from 1999 last night. He says several times that he "hates" abortion and also that he is pro-choice, but he is less convincing in his support for choice. It is interesting to see the interview in retrospect.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at January 24, 2020 11:57 AM (LWu6U)

250 joshua raised up a trumpet.

the lord raised up a trump.

coincidence? i don't think so.

Posted by: mjc at January 24, 2020 11:57 AM (Pg+x7)

251
Is "votevets" some kind of homo PAC?

I just saw an ad for pete buttsex by "votevets" telling me buttsex is a war hero, showing me pics of buttsex posing in his desert camos with a very large rifle. Very gay.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at January 24, 2020 11:57 AM (jePQb)

252 AoSHQ: come for the pro-life rants, stay for the cheese talk.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 24, 2020 11:57 AM (+/QPx)

253 The pro abortion folks on the fence who favor a date of development where the fetus changes to a human don't like to discuss exactly why a 20 week old baby shouldn't be aborted but okay to abort the 19 week old baby.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 24, 2020 11:58 AM (VzbI8)

254 227 187, JamesMadision,

In a first past the post system such as ours, a third party is useless other than to spur changes in major parties on a particular issue. See Durverget's law and Anthony Down's Economic Theory of Democracy for example.

Often, the third party becomes a corrupt vehicle, and Libertarians are particularly susceptible to this, for a major party such as the Dems to fund Libertarian candidates to siphon votes off from the Republican. The libertarian party is so weak that many of their candidates, cough William Weld, etc. are basically plants to fragment the vote. This will become even more prevalent if rank ordered voting,etc. becomes an issue or blanket primaries.

IN a PR system, all parties become corrupted as the deals that they make to get government offices in a majority coalition lead them to abandon purity. So a new party is created, and pretty soon you end up with parties of personalities or identities. Under such situation, divide and conquer lets the elites do what they want absent any sanction.
Posted by: whig at January 24, 2020 11:55 AM (EUDB2)

===========

I get it, but having a Libertarian Party that couldn't be completely ignored the next election still felt like a good idea to me at the time.

I've often said that Gary Johnson held to the ideals of libertarianism worse than any other candidate compared to their party's platform in that race. In other words, he was a worse Libertarian than Clinton was a left leaning Democrat and Trump was a right leaning conservative.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 24, 2020 11:58 AM (q80AH)

255 AoSHQ: come for the pro-life rants, stay for the cheese talk.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 24, 2020 11:57 AM (+/QPx)
++++++++++++
Which is better? Cheese talk or pillow talk?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 24, 2020 11:58 AM (I2dne)

256 252 AoSHQ: come for the pro-life rants, stay for the cheese talk.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 24, 2020 11:57 AM (+/QPx)

I'm surprised it not boobs...yet

Posted by: IC at January 24, 2020 11:58 AM (a0IVu)

257 VoteVets has 9 paid Democrat trolls for every 'veteran' in their organisation.

Do the math.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 24, 2020 11:58 AM (iPsjM)

258 Hey just wondering "What Happened to WWIII" ?

Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at January 24, 2020 11:58 AM (BqBId)

259 Lol. Age 12. Pixy got me all figured out. Better go play video games now.

Posted by: Gordon Shumway at January 24, 2020 11:58 AM (AGE12)

260 Watched about thirty minutes of One! Two! Three!years ago, and from what I saw Cagney's manic performance was so over-the-top that if Buchholz was dominating every scene with him he had to be the greatest scene-stealer that Hollywood has ever known.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at January 24, 2020

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Well, maybe Cagney burned himself out, or Buchholz was not so much stealing the scenes as throwing Cagney off somehow and making it hard for him to concentrate. His performance is wild, but then the movie is a farce.

Someone on another site once said that nobody in human history ever moved or spoke like James Cagney; but every line he ever delivered was true-to-life.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 11:59 AM (Ejm1K)

261 235 > Buchholz, apparently, was responsible for James Cagney's retirement from movies. They did Billy Wilder's One! Two! Three!,
and Buchholz was such a scene-stealer (so goes the story) that Cagney, who was about ready to retire anyway, threw up his hands and didn't act
again until Ragtime some 20 years later

Watched about thirty minutes of One! Two! Three!years ago, and from what I saw Cagney's manic performance was so over-the-top that if Buchholz was dominating every scene with him he had to be the greatest scene-stealer that Hollywood has ever known.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at January 24, 2020 11:55 AM (SV7V4)

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That movie is so over the top and builds to such a wildly energetic conclusion, Cagney had to keep that performance just to keep up with the pace of the action of the film. Add in the whippersnapper and you've got a recipe for chaos.

I think it works really, really well in the film.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 24, 2020 11:59 AM (q80AH)

262

I support small government and demand we cut the government cheese!

Posted by: Gov. Lepetomane at January 24, 2020 11:59 AM (/bKlZ)

263 253 The pro abortion folks on the fence who favor a date of development where the fetus changes to a human don't like to discuss exactly why a 20 week old baby shouldn't be aborted but okay to abort the 19 week old baby.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 24, 2020 11:58 AM (VzbI

EXACTLY. I used to argue...ok, if it's not a baby at conception, then when is that magical moment when it becomes a baby?

Posted by: charlotte the sailor at January 24, 2020 11:59 AM (/rsCS)

264 how about cheesy underboob?

Posted by: Lena! at January 24, 2020 11:59 AM (NMIkx)

265 I'm surprised it not boobs...yet
Posted by: IC at January 24, 2020 11:58 AM (a0IVu)
+++++++++++++
It is difficult to combine boobs and cheese. The most expedient is to spray cheese-whiz on the boobs, but cheese-whiz is an inferior product and casts a pall over the whole event.

Now if this were a whipped cream thread, the sky would be the limit.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 24, 2020 11:59 AM (I2dne)

266

It's Noon.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at January 24, 2020 12:00 PM (jePQb)

267 Soothsayer is a Nooner?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 24, 2020 12:00 PM (iPsjM)

268 266

It's Noon.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at January 24, 2020 12:00 PM (jePQb)

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For sooth.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 24, 2020 12:00 PM (q80AH)

269 210 166 I didn't know the Dwemer made umbrellas.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Brighten Your Gloom with Doom Polish from The Outrage Outlet! at January 24, 2020 11:46 AM (hLRSq)

And you don't even wanna know what they're doing over on LoversLab....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 24, 2020 11:52 AM (FOGOI)

*perks up*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 24, 2020 12:00 PM (l4C/z)

270 No.
You will learn more about cheese.
When making cheddar, the cut curd must be gently heated, or the curds will tighten and refuse to expel any more whey prior to breaking 100 degrees. Also, rushing through the cheddaring phase (stacking the sliced curd masses) and the milling phase (breaking the curd masses by hand with salt after cheddaring) will result in an inferior final product.
Cheese thread.
Posted by: Zod

No whey?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 24, 2020 12:00 PM (XkxK0)

271 126
Cougar Gold!!!

The Cougar Gold burger at Saute in Clarkston WA may be the best burger on the planet.

Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at January 24, 2020 11:40 AM (/bKlZ)

Get a tin every Christmas from the WAZZU Creamery. Also Crimson Fire (Chili Flake Monterrey Jack) is exquisite.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at January 24, 2020 12:00 PM (k/TB6)

272 Was just about to note the Flynn case development - Tami beat me to it.

I harbor tiny, nano-scale hopes that the Flynn case might detonate the way it should, with biblical scale collateral damage to all the right people. This hope receives a small bit of support by the judge's decision here.

Posted by: WC Fields, on the set at January 24, 2020 12:01 PM (El6T/)

273 When do the cheese-cutting jokes begin?

Posted by: davidt at January 24, 2020 12:01 PM (l3+k2)

274 I just had my first child. One month old this week.

If I wasn't decidedly pro-life before, I am now.

Posted by: brak at January 24, 2020 12:01 PM (YmWc0)

275 how about cheesy underboob?

Posted by: Lena! at January 24, 2020 11:59 AM (NMIkx)

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How about under taint?

Posted by: Baby Bell Spokestaint at January 24, 2020 12:01 PM (pw+jk)

276 Muse

Very well said about Trump & pro-life movement.

I ALWAYS resented the "back street girl" treatment the Bushes gave the March For Life. Like they were ashamed of it.

How infuriating was the annual "Scheduling prevents me from attending in person, but I'll make some remarks on the phone" gambit? EVERY. Gd. YEAR!

Posted by: mnw at January 24, 2020 12:01 PM (Cssks)

277 With all this cheese, not a single French surrender joke.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 24, 2020 12:01 PM (iPsjM)

278
It is difficult to combine boobs and cheese. The most expedient is to spray cheese-whiz on the boobs, but cheese-whiz is an inferior product and casts a pall over the whole event.

Now if this were a whipped cream thread, the sky would be the limit.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 24, 2020 11:59 AM (I2dne)

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You could make human milk cheese.

Or, if Biden wins next year, put away the pudding, and dip 'em in warm limburger.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 24, 2020 12:01 PM (fUqBx)

279 I watch "Magnificent Seven" recently (actually, it was a double-feature with "Seven Samurai", both terrific movies); and if you watch McQueen, he's always fiddling with his hat - putting it on, taking it off, turning it in his hands. He also stained it with mineral oil to look sweaty.

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They were filming in Mexico. I doubt he had to add anything to his hat to make it look sweat-stained!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 12:01 PM (Ejm1K)

280 watching Imprint

Takashi Miike made me pro-life

I know, insane.

btw don't watch Imprint. It is excellent. and nearly impossible to watch

I was always pretty abstractly pro-life however, I grew up Cathoilc and I basically knew that personally I would never consider it. but I would not judge someone who felt they had to do it, I guess. now I still wouldn't, but I would attempt to support them in choosing something else.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at January 24, 2020 12:02 PM (Rarvo)

281 When do the cheese-cutting jokes begin?
Posted by: davidt at January 24, 2020 12:01 PM

See 262 above.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 24, 2020 12:02 PM (ejd/p)

282 The left went from safe and rare abortions to making it a sacrament. And the change happened almost over night.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 24, 2020 12:02 PM (Uu+Jp)

283 And I still haven't made any cheese. I need to work on that.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

I just cut the cheese. No work needed.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 24, 2020 12:02 PM (XkxK0)

284 Buchholz, apparently, was responsible for James Cagney's retirement from movies. They did Billy Wilder's One! Two! Three!, and Buchholz was such a scene-stealer (so goes the story) that Cagney, who was about ready to retire anyway, threw up his hands and didn't act again until Ragtime some 20 years later.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 11:38 AM (Ejm1K)

Cagney hated working with him and I think Cagney said that he wanted to knock him on his ass.

My favorite quote of Victor Mature, I'm not an actor and I've got 64 films to prove it

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 24, 2020 12:02 PM (Un9AW)

285 >>I'd love to give it a shot this year, perhaps over the summer. Cheese and homemade mead. Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at January 24, 2020 11:55 AM (wCmLp)

Contact Zod prior to purchasing your press (unless you make one, in which case huzzah). There are Good Ones and then there are those that are Pieces Of Shit.
Gavin's press is functional, and he clearly makes it work (the spring-pressure ensures constant pressure where you might otherwise lose it by whey drainoff), but it's not precise.

Posted by: Zod at January 24, 2020 12:03 PM (ZS9TG)

286 As a teenager I once conned my mom into asking for Venezuelan Beaver Cheese at the deli.

She was not amused.
Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at January 24, 2020 11:53 AM (/bKlZ)

Yoohoo! Anybody want some of *my* beaver cheese?

Posted by: Lena Dunham at January 24, 2020 12:03 PM (+/QPx)

287 In the area of Arkansas I live in, there used to be a couple of small burgs that were hotbeds of Klan activity. Now, it's pretty much "those assholes have died off". Anytime somebody starts a rant about the Klan, they should be reminded they're down to a few thousand or less, and dying regularly.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at January 24, 2020 12:03 PM (C1Lsn)

288 Cheese thread.
Posted by: Zod at January 24, 2020 11:32 AM (u4/yY)

Got here late. Making cheese is harder that you think. Time, temperature and technique are a lot harder to manage than I expected.

Posted by: Roy at January 24, 2020 12:03 PM (SUJyY)

289 There's no small govt component in the Libertarian Party .

They proved that during Obama's Reign of Error.

They signed on for every single big govt idea and every restriction on liberty.

If pot becomes globally legal, they can all retire from the stage happy that they succeeded. And proceed to spend the rest of their lives stoned.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 24, 2020 12:03 PM (zakeJ)

290 Everyone expected Bucholtz to be a huge star but the guys who broke out were McQueen and especially James Coburn whose cool confident demeanor really set them apart.

What's hilarious is that Brynner was so certain he was a huge epic star who dominated every screen he didn't even try to get noticed or attract attention.

Watch the scene where they ride past the camera, one after another on their way to the village through the little forest. Brynner rides by looking stern and in control, then each and every other actor does something to get you to notice them as they ride by.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 24, 2020 12:03 PM (KZzsI)

291 Our society has degenerated so quickly.abortion.seems.quaint.

Posted by: Regular joe at January 24, 2020 12:03 PM (L9P9s)

292 EXACTLY. I used to argue...ok, if it's not a baby at conception, then when is that magical moment when it becomes a baby?
Posted by: charlotte the sailor at January 24, 2020 11:59 AM (/rsCS)

I'm very pro-life, but I'd be willing to accept fetal heartbeat, as a compromise. That's still pretty early in the gestation period, and it's a measurable marker that's easily defined.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 24, 2020 12:03 PM (Kpl3J)

293 Watched about thirty minutes of One! Two! Three!years ago, and from what I saw Cagney's manic performance was so over-the-top that if Buchholz was dominating every scene with him he had to be the greatest scene-stealer that Hollywood has ever known.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at January 24, 2020 11:55 AM (SV7V4)

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That movie is so over the top and builds to such a wildly energetic conclusion, Cagney had to keep that performance just to keep up with the pace of the action of the film. Add in the whippersnapper and you've got a recipe for chaos.

I think it works really, really well in the film.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 24, 2020

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Just about any Cagney film is worth watching, and some way more than once or twice, like White Heat and The Roaring Twenties.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 12:03 PM (Ejm1K)

294 The Cheese Thread Is Over.

Posted by: Zod at January 24, 2020 12:03 PM (ZS9TG)

295 237 237
Abortion is a slap in the face of a sovereign, holy, loving and fearsome Creator.

Birth is a slap in the ass of your child.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at January 24, 2020 12:04 PM (XzVUd)

296 I'm not saying the mother has to keep the baby. There is ALWAYS adoption.

Abortion is murder. No two ways about it.

Posted by: charlotte the sailor at January 24, 2020 11:53 AM (/rsCS)

I believe if science developed an incubator where a fetus could be transferred to continue development, the Pro Abortion people would be viciously against it.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 24, 2020 12:04 PM (VzbI8)

297 BOOBS ARE A TOOL OF THE PATRIARCHY RAAWWK!

Posted by: Propaganda Parrot at January 24, 2020 12:04 PM (Gc+kL)

298 How infuriating was the annual "Scheduling prevents me from attending in person, but I'll make some remarks on the phone" gambit?

Trump didn't make it the first two years, either.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 24, 2020 12:04 PM (KZzsI)

299 294 The Cheese Thread Is Over.
Posted by: Zod at January 24, 2020 12:03 PM (ZS9TG)

It's just time for affinage.

Posted by: Roy at January 24, 2020 12:04 PM (SUJyY)

300 3. One thing that really bothers me about the impeachment is that no one points out the fatal, obvious, flaw in the dem argument.

Trump was not asking for a made up dossier. He was not asking for a fit-up. He was asking for an *investigation*. Now put aside the legitimacy of the request without qualification. Or that Trump was the only one who could ask since it involved high level people in both countries. The dems are claiming that the request was bad to do, since everyone knows Biden is innocent. Well, if Biden is innocent, then the request could only lead to .... nothing. No benefit to Trump.

Or, if Biden is guilty than the request is absolutely valid even under dem logic.

This is like saying "you ask me for the cookie I stole from you (which I do not have) because you want to steal my cookie." Well which is it? Either path exonerates dems even under their twisted logic that the president can not do anything which might help him win reelection. Path A leads to an investigation with no outcome and no benefit. Path B leads to total legitimacy.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at January 24, 2020 12:05 PM (LWu6U)

301 I used to be pro abortion until the zealots revealed themselves as soul deprived vermin.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 24, 2020 12:05 PM (y7DUB)

302 244
It was Hedy Lamar with Victor Mature in Samson and Delilah.

Posted by: An Observation at January 24, 2020 11:56 AM (zhMnl)

Groucho Marx:
I was once invited to Cecil De Mille's projection room, and they were
running "Samson and Delilah" with Hedy Lamarr and Victor Mature. I'm
sure many of you have seen that picture, some time or other. So Cecil De
Mille came up to me, when the picture was over and he said "How did you
like the picture?" I said "It'll be a failure." And he said "Why? Why
will it be a failure?" "Because you got the characters wrong. Victor
Mature has much bigger knockers than Hedy Lamarr." They never asked me
at the Paramount again.

Posted by: Dagwood at January 24, 2020 12:05 PM (K3bk4)

303 Maureen O'Hara and Dean Martin.

Posted by: ShainS, Club Gulag > Club Gitmo at January 24, 2020 12:05 PM (WqPYg)

304 Summary of Veronica Lake's final movie, Flesh Feast.

Dr. Elaine Frederick, a mad scientist, is working on developing maggots that prefer human flesh, while her services are used to make a clone of Adolf Hitler. She cooperates with the plan to resurrect Hitler as a way of exacting revenge for the death of her mother, a political prisoner executed in Ravensbrück concentration camp. While convincing everyone the flesh-eating maggots are for regeneration research, she simply wants to throw them in the resurrected Hitler's face, which she does.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 24, 2020 12:05 PM (+y/Ru)

305 I think one excellent campaign promise would be to have the IRS audit the last 7 years of every congressman and senator starting on day 1 of a presidential term. Followed by an audit of every child and sibling of the congress critters. They wrote the tax laws, they can take their own medicine or make it better.
Follow this with audits of the top 10 appointees in every government department. Repeat every year and every election or appointment.

Posted by: Downcast at January 24, 2020 12:06 PM (LIY2w)

306 Victor Mature is like Burt Lancaster for me.

After he saw Samson and Delilah, Groucho Marx said it was the first movie he'd ever seen where the leading man's tits were bigger than the leading lady's.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 24, 2020 12:06 PM (Ki5SV)

307 As I said, a sad ending for Veronica Lake.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 24, 2020 12:06 PM (iPsjM)

308 > "Someone on another site once said that nobody in
human history ever moved or spoke like James Cagney; but every line he
ever delivered was true-to-life."--

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

That was Orson Welles' opinion too.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at January 24, 2020 12:06 PM (SV7V4)

309
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 24, 2020 12:05 PM (+y/Ru)

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Um, this movie sounds particularly awesome to me.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 24, 2020 12:06 PM (fUqBx)

310 304
Summary of Veronica Lake's final movie, Flesh Feast.

Talky or Silent?

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at January 24, 2020 12:07 PM (XzVUd)

311 Woman back in the '70's was setting up an estate sale of the effects of a Fort Worth judge's widow.

She pulled a puzzling bundle of satin out of a trunk.
'What is this?" she asked.

A helper took a look and said 'Oh- those must be the Judge's robes. He was a Grand Kleagle back in the day..."

Posted by: sal at January 24, 2020 12:07 PM (bo8pf)

312 "I voted for Gary Johnson in 2016."

I admire your courage in posting this. Did he ever figure out what a Leppo was?

Posted by: Chris M at January 24, 2020 12:07 PM (eAZVt)

313 Flesh Feast was like 1972. In color no less.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 24, 2020 12:07 PM (iPsjM)

314 Really good scene stealers are hilarious - one of my faves is Benicio del Toro in the lineup scene in "Usual Suspects". Everyone on the set is laughing at what he does.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 24, 2020 12:07 PM (Kpl3J)

315
Posted by: Downcast at January 24, 2020 12:06 PM (LIY2w)

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This is essentially a promise to jail 95% of Congress. I like it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 24, 2020 12:07 PM (fUqBx)

316 The Cheese Thread Is Over.
Posted by: Zod at January 24, 2020 12:03 PM (ZS9TG)
*******
So who Cut the Cheese.......... Thread

Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at January 24, 2020 12:08 PM (BqBId)

317
What's hilarious is that Brynner was so certain he was a huge epic star who dominated every screen he didn't even try to get noticed or attract attention.
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I had the pleasure of seeing him live on stage. Enormously charismatic man.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 24, 2020 12:08 PM (jW9oF)

318 Posted by: Brown Line at January 24, 2020 11:44 AM (S6ArX)

I reached the same conclusion by a wild attack of logic. I used to hate the right's fixation on abortion and considered it a lost issue, not worth trying to continue fighting.

Despite blowing off tons of emotional arguments, I know my position was an outlier, so I decided to see if science and reason could give a good reason to oppose abortion, without any religious input.

What I came up with:

The fetus is biologically human and will become a human child, absent medical intervention, bad luck, or trauma causing a miscarriage.

The fetus is biologically alive in every sense, once both a heartbeat and brainwave are established.

The fetus is genetically distinct from the mother, meaning it is not part of her body, but a different body within.

"My body, my choice" doesn't stand up to reason.

Late term abortions don't stand up to reason.

"It's just a clump of cells" doesn't stand up to reason.

Going further, looking at the long and sordid history of man's inhumanity to man, a pattern emerges that the societies that have committed the worst atrocities have done so against population segments that were declared less than human.

Just as giving even the worst criminal the protection of Law ultimately protects us, so too should we insist on a rigid and inflexible start and end for what is considered life - to prevent the goalposts from moving in dangerous directions.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at January 24, 2020 12:08 PM (J+mig)

319 "Victor Mature is like Burt Lancaster for me."

I don't know who that is, so I just picture Burt Reynolds instead.

Posted by: Chris M at January 24, 2020 12:08 PM (eAZVt)

320 Just about any Cagney film is worth watching, and some way more than once or twice, like White Heat and The Roaring Twenties.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 12:03 PM (Ejm1K)

Angels With Dirty Faces is another really good one

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 24, 2020 12:08 PM (Un9AW)

321 >>>That was when I decided I had to pro-life and that was over 40 years ago.

I hadn't had a particular time or event in life that made me pro-life. In my pre-29 years, I had very much been live and let live, ignorantly thinking that this was the natural conclusion of preferences for freedom, ordered liberty, and minimal government.

I think 9/11/2001 set me on a course of a realization and an awakening that evil exists. I never really wanted children, until I found a woman who was worthy and I became "ready," whatever that meant. That path meant a world of discovery and recognition as to what is a human life, and if it is a human life, when is it worth protecting.

As if at once, freedom and ordered liberty held a new meaning. We are very fortunate, after much trial and medical assistance, to be the parents of two beautiful boys. I was fortunate to never have had to make the hard choice of life over my own selfish concerns, and I applaud those who have and chose life and adoption for babies.

Evil exists. *types* *deletes*

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 24, 2020 12:08 PM (1CjJc)

322 I ALWAYS resented the "back street girl" treatment the Bushes gave the March For Life. Like they were ashamed of it.

How infuriating was the annual "Scheduling prevents me from attending in person, but I'll make some remarks on the phone" gambit? EVERY. Gd. YEAR!
Posted by: mnw

That's because the Bush family history is intertwined with Planned Parenthood.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 24, 2020 12:09 PM (XkxK0)

323 Watching this Lindsey Graham press conference is amazing.

The members of the press are literally arguing, interrupting and verbally getting in the face of the GOP senators.

This never, EVER happens to Democrats.

This is bullshit.

Revoke the press passes of all of these jerkwads.

They aren't journalist's, they are apparatchiks.

Posted by: Mr. Wiffle Snuff at January 24, 2020 12:09 PM (yefUV)

324 I believe if science developed an incubator where a fetus could be transferred to continue development, the Pro Abortion people would be viciously against it.

Of course they would. Because the reason they are so for baby murdering is that they want the baby GONE. It has nothing to do with "my body" or any of the other arguments they give. They want to erase their "mistake" and not be "burdened" with a child.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 24, 2020 12:10 PM (KZzsI)

325 American reporters aren't even apparatchiks anymore, they are two-legged MERSA.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 24, 2020 12:10 PM (iPsjM)

326 Both Susan Hayward and Victor Mature were Republicans, when that meant something and an actor didn't get ostracized for it in Hollywood.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 12:10 PM (Ejm1K)

327 Yep. Trump is Gods President.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 24, 2020 12:10 PM (nlavE)

328 Buchholz, apparently, was responsible for James Cagney's retirement from movies. They did Billy Wilder's One! Two! Three!,
and Buchholz was such a scene-stealer (so goes the story) that Cagney, who was about ready to retire anyway, threw up his hands and didn't act
again until Ragtime some 20 years later

Watched about thirty minutes of One! Two! Three!years ago, and from what I saw Cagney's manic performance was so over-the-top that if Buchholz was dominating every scene with him he had to be the greatest scene-stealer that Hollywood has ever known.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at January 24, 2020 11:55 AM (SV7V4)

I love One, Two, Three. I especially like Red Buttons - as a security guard in Cagney's office - do a Cagney impersonation to his face.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 24, 2020 12:10 PM (Ki5SV)

329 Snopes won't touch the story of John Kerry's "Hero of Communist Victory" award. I've tried repeatedly.

Posted by: An Observation at January 24, 2020 12:10 PM (MV+zd)

330 282
The left went from safe and rare abortions to making it a sacrament. And the change happened almost over night.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 24, 2020 12:02 PM (Uu+Jp)

I think the "safe and rare abortions" position was always a lie. It's always been a sacrament to them. Also, "safe and rare ..." was a position of the Democratic party rather than "the left". And still a lie.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at January 24, 2020 12:10 PM (XzVUd)

331 susan hayward and victor mature

always thought she was very nice

Posted by: DB- just DB at January 24, 2020 12:11 PM (iTXRQ)

332 Gouda and Liverwurst, spicey brown mustard on fresh, soft rye.

Don't like it?

Fight me.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 24, 2020 12:11 PM (u6xw0)

333 Read a book which outlined arguments against abortion.

Rape. Only 10% of mothers who were raped abort their babies. (at least according to the statistics in the book). Not all the mothers kept the babies, but they didn't abort.

It's age discrimination. You are discriminating against a baby because of its age and where she/he lives (the womb).

#318 Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at January 24, 2020 12:08 PM (J+mig) reminded me of this.

Posted by: charlotte the sailor at January 24, 2020 12:11 PM (/rsCS)

334 Posted by: mnw

Bullshit. You can support Trump without have to lie about GWBs pro life credentials.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 24, 2020 12:11 PM (VzbI8)

335 226, Christopher Taylor, depends on which Klan you are talking about. The first iteration was resistance to Northern occupation and opposition to the Republican party in the South as they were seen as scalawags, carpetbaggers, and blacks that sought to impoverish and oppress white Southerners. They were also seeking to maintain the social order of the time.

Then, about 1880's to 1890's, we seek the fusion party of progressivism of poor agrarian whites (Grange movement etc.), Republicans who moved South for opportunities in cities, and black Republicans to attempt to overthrow the existing political elites that restored the old regime after Reconstruction ended. The reform agenda called for internal improvements like public schools and highways plus regulation of corporations, mining, grain elevators, cotton processors, and railroads. The Dems representing the elites then used naked racism, voting restrictions, and intimidation to separate and defeat this reform agenda's coalition which more or less succeeded by 1900-1910. Other than denying the franchise effectively, de jure segregation which spread through the South, in part, was to keep that reform coalition from arising again.

Prominent citizens were involved because many of the propose changes would economically affect the elites in the South by higher taxation, higher labor costs for their workers, upset competition for government offices and loot that came with it, and challenge the class based system of the South. To that end, the Klan rose again and included anti-furriners to the mix and this organization is shown in the picture above. It was a movement that primarily came from Southern Democratic elites that wanted to forestall changes in the South and country.

Good read on it comes from C. Vann Woodward's series of books but Strange Career of Jim Crow was probably one of his best.

Posted by: whig at January 24, 2020 12:11 PM (EUDB2)

336 I do like how in 2016 the libertarian vice presidential candidate was about the most authoritarian candidate of and party's presidential slate.

The lp was in bad shape before william weld but it is a joke now.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2020 12:11 PM (HL3c5)

337 Margaret Sanger called unwanted children weeds and was lauded by the Nazis.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 24, 2020 12:11 PM (iPsjM)

338 Gouda and Liverwurst, spicey brown mustard on fresh, soft rye.

Don't like it?

Fight me.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 24, 2020 12:11 PM (u6xw0)

Settle down, Jonah.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 24, 2020 12:11 PM (Boy/L)

339 That's because the Bush family history is intertwined with Planned Parenthood.

Both Bush presidents did far more to fight abortion than Ronald Reagan. Trump has just gone further, which I also appreciate.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 24, 2020 12:11 PM (KZzsI)

340 319 "Victor Mature is like Burt Lancaster for me."

I don't know who that is, so I just picture Burt Reynolds instead.
Posted by: Chris M at January 24, 2020 12:08 PM (eAZVt)

Hey millenial, he's the old guy who walks off the field and saves the little girl in Field of Dreams.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 24, 2020 12:11 PM (Kpl3J)

341 Victor Mature is like Burt Lancaster for me."

I don't know who that is, so I just picture Burt Reynolds instead.
Posted by: Chris M at January 24, 2020

*
*

Birdman of Alcatraz? Elmer Gantry? Valdez is Coming?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 12:12 PM (Ejm1K)

342 Adam Schiff brings a whole new meaning to "Red Scare"

Posted by: SMOD at January 24, 2020 12:12 PM (3aI0K)

343 Trump was not asking for a made up dossier. He was not asking for a fit-up. He was asking for an *investigation*. Now put aside the legitimacy of the request without qualification. Or that Trump was the only one who could ask since it involved high level people in both countries. The dems are claiming that the request was bad to do, since everyone knows Biden is innocent. Well, if Biden is innocent, then the request could only lead to .... nothing. No benefit to Trump.

Or, if Biden is guilty than the request is absolutely valid even under dem logic.
...
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at January 24, 2020 12:05 PM (LWu6U)
+++++++++++++
There is no "Dem Logic." There is only offense and defense. Offense against anyone in their way, defense of anyone carrying their banner.

The details don't matter. Neither does logical consistency. Neither does law. Neither does honor. Nothing but the one iron rule of offense and defense matters.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 24, 2020 12:12 PM (I2dne)

344 339 Both Bush presidents did far more to fight abortion than Ronald Reagan. Trump has just gone further, which I also appreciate.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 24, 2020 12:11 PM (KZzsI)

Both Bushes were One World Order guys. Can't say that about Trump.

Posted by: charlotte the sailor at January 24, 2020 12:12 PM (/rsCS)

345 I never had an a-ha moment on abortion. It just seems like basic science: it's human and it's life. I don't find word games over fetus/baby or things like heartbeat to be persuasive. It's alive and once it is, you have to kill it for it to not be. But I'm also not a hardliner. I'd allow for narrow exceptions.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 24, 2020 12:13 PM (ppBhU)

346 Victor Mature is like Burt Lancaster for me.

They both suck as actors and I can hardly stand to watch a movie with either of them in it.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 24, 2020 11:40 AM (MT9xU)

Burt Lancaster was awful. He had the acting ability of a 2x4. And he was a commie prick too

Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 24, 2020 12:13 PM (Un9AW)

347 Adam Schiff is Peter Lorre's character in M.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 24, 2020 12:13 PM (iPsjM)

348 >>"My body, my choice" doesn't stand up to reason.

The list of things that "don't stand up to reason" that aren't summarily discounted on that basis is longer than it probably ought to be...

Posted by: Zod at January 24, 2020 12:13 PM (ZS9TG)

349
I salvaged and reconditioned a homemade cheese press -- nothing fancy, just two sections of 2x10s chained together about 3" apart on one end and having a large bolt and wing nut spanning them on the other -- that was in Mrs. Krebs' family. We've make Lithuanian farmer's cheese, a soft cheese flavored with dill, using it several times now. The wet solids are held inside the press in a cheesecloth sack and the screw is turned to dewater the product.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 24, 2020 12:13 PM (pNxlR)

350 Birdman of Alcatraz? Elmer Gantry? Valdez is Coming?

-
Seven Days In May

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 24, 2020 12:13 PM (+y/Ru)

351 "Victor Mature is like Burt Lancaster for me."

+++

"The Train" is a really good film.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at January 24, 2020 12:13 PM (dfRN6)

352 Not many people know that Cagney made a martial arts movie; Blood on the Sun.

Posted by: An Observation at January 24, 2020 12:14 PM (MV+zd)

353 >>Burt Lancaster was awful. He had the acting ability of a 2x4. And he was a commie prick too Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 24, 2020 12:13 PM (Un9AW)

Submitted as evidence: "Run Silent, Run Deep"

Posted by: Zod at January 24, 2020 12:14 PM (ZS9TG)

354 Posted by: charlotte the sailor at January 24, 2020 12:12 PM (/rsCS)

More bs.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 24, 2020 12:14 PM (VzbI8)

355 The Leftist way has always been incrementalism until the end and then they turn the last inch into a mile. Remember Coonman Northam advocating for infanticide and various states passing laws allowing abortion a moment before birth.

So I believe conception is a human life and a person, but I will gladly accept 20 week limit right now. And then work for 19 weeks, and then 8 weeks and then 4 weeks.....

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 24, 2020 12:14 PM (r+sAi)

356 332 Gouda and Liverwurst, spicey brown mustard on fresh, soft rye.

+ green onions. Grilled. To die for.

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at January 24, 2020 12:14 PM (/bKlZ)

357 I can't forget Bammy's comment about not wanting his daughters to be "punished with a baby."

Posted by: Basement Cat at January 24, 2020 12:14 PM (pPNCa)

358 Personally, I don't really care if Trump is a "good person" or not (even if, in fact, it seems to me that he's a hell of a lot better person than most presidents have been lately).

He's possibly the best president, measured by pretty much any metric you care to name, than we've had in a century or more.

I'll take that.

Posted by: filbert at January 24, 2020 12:14 PM (YT49/)

359 The left went from safe and rare abortions to making it a sacrament. And the change happened almost over night.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 24, 2020 12:02 PM (Uu+Jp)

I
think the "safe and rare abortions" position was always a lie. It's
always been a sacrament to them. Also, "safe and rare ..." was a
position of the Democratic party rather than "the left". And still a
lie.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at January 24, 2020 12:10 PM

---

It's the same thing with same sex "marriage". That went from the left saying they just wanted the law to recognize same sex partners so they could inherit, be put on insurance, etc., but they didn't want a traditional marriage.

And then it literally morphed overnight into demanding same sex marriages and that everyone recognize those and in fact celebrate them along with the gays.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 24, 2020 12:15 PM (JUOKG)

360 The list of things that "don't stand up to reason" that aren't summarily discounted on that basis is longer than it probably ought to be...
Posted by: Zod at January 24, 2020 12:13 PM (ZS9TG)

I couldn't possibly agree more.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at January 24, 2020 12:15 PM (J+mig)

361 Both Bushes were One World Order guys. Can't say that about Trump.

Sure, they were globalist fools, but that doesn't mean they weren't strong on fighting abortion. Retconning history because you're angry at the Bushes isn't any better than when the left does it to people they want to "cancel."

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 24, 2020 12:15 PM (KZzsI)

362 Oh...finding out my wife could not have a child. This was when I was forced to actually give the matter some real thought and realized how precious life is.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 24, 2020 12:15 PM (u6xw0)

363 I have no idea who this guy is. But apparently he triggers Soyworld pretty badly:

https://tinyurl.com/vj6xrcf

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 24, 2020 12:15 PM (fUqBx)

364 Victor Mature is like Burt Lancaster for me.

------------

I like Burt in Elmer Gantry and Judgment at Nuremburg. Pretty good range between those two. Everything else is pretty meh.

Posted by: McLurkerson at January 24, 2020 12:15 PM (PNCUr)

365 Seven Days In May

No retitled to A Couple of Weeks in August

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 24, 2020 12:15 PM (Boy/L)

366 Kurt Russell's father was in Magnificent 7

Posted by: DB- just DB at January 24, 2020 12:15 PM (iTXRQ)

367 Just seeing how the Left actually celebrates Roe Vs. Wade and treats the day of the court decision as though it's a festive day pushed me further into the Pro-Life column, a position --I always naturally leaned toward anyway.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 24, 2020 12:15 PM (CqE5x)

368

Little Bush was a phony pro-lifer.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at January 24, 2020 12:15 PM (3rEjV)

369 http://bit.ly/37oOkOZ
*******
Delingpole: George Soros Donates $1 Billion to Combat 'Authoritarianism.' Seriously?

Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at January 24, 2020 12:16 PM (BqBId)

370
Gouda and Liverwurst, spicey brown mustard on fresh, soft rye.
=====

You forgot the slices of raw onion (although my preference is for yellow mustard). Yeah, fight me.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 24, 2020 12:16 PM (MIKMs)

371 292 EXACTLY. I used to argue...ok, if it's not a baby at conception, then when is that magical moment when it becomes a baby?
Posted by: charlotte the sailor at January 24, 2020 11:59 AM (/rsCS)

I'm very pro-life, but I'd be willing to accept fetal heartbeat, as a compromise. That's still pretty early in the gestation period, and it's a measurable marker that's easily defined.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 24, 2020 12:03 PM (Kpl3J)

The one that always stumps them is to ask them "Tell me HOW life starts...not when."

Posted by: Tami at January 24, 2020 12:16 PM (cF8AT)

372 This clip doesn't show them coming out, but it does show the two of them. I'm sorry I couldn't tell a better story:

https://tinyurl.com/ko65q4d
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
..........

I read she was down to skin and bones.. which you can kind of tell in that clip.. but she still looked pretty good.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 24, 2020 12:16 PM (so+oy)

373 354 Posted by: charlotte the sailor at January 24, 2020 12:12 PM (/rsCS)

More bs.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 24, 2020 12:14 PM (VzbI

Uh. No. Old Bush is on video saying it at some UN gathering, I believe. But he did say it.

Posted by: charlotte the sailor at January 24, 2020 12:16 PM (/rsCS)

374 332 Gouda and Liverwurst, spicey brown mustard on fresh, soft rye.

+ green onions. Grilled. To die for.
Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at January 24, 2020 12:14 PM (/bKlZ)
++++++++++++
Except for the liverwurst. Unless I am iron-deficient, anyway. I find that I can't stomach liverwurst most times, but sometimes it is all I want. I'll eat prodigious quantities of it. Can't get enough - it's like a mania. Then, back to normal - which is why I suspect iron deficiency as the cause.

Also, your nic is awesome and makes me chuckle every time I see it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 24, 2020 12:16 PM (I2dne)

375 Little Bush was a phony pro-lifer.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at January 24, 2020 12:15 PM (3rEjV)

That goes on the Kohn scale.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 24, 2020 12:16 PM (VzbI8)

376 You know, maybe it would be a good idea to present "the little clump of cells", wrapped in a blanket, to the mother post abortion.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at January 24, 2020 12:16 PM (C1Lsn)

377 Gouda and Liverwurst, spicey brown mustard on fresh, soft rye.
=====

You forgot the slices of raw onion (although my preference is for yellow mustard). Yeah, fight me.
Posted by: mustbequantum

and dill pickle

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 24, 2020 12:16 PM (d7Ww2)

378 Time for lunch, need to do some story rework, and no time for any of the 'why the Bushes sux' bleating since I have head it a million times already.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 24, 2020 12:17 PM (iPsjM)

379 Angels With Dirty Faces is another really good one
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 24, 2020 12:08 PM (Un9AW)

There's a scene in "Angels" that just kills me.

Cagney is out of jail (again) and comes into a church to see his childhood friend, Pat O'Brien, who's now the parish priest.
Pat is up in the choir loft, rehearsing the choir. As they sing "Panis Angelicus", Cagney begins to sing along softly down below. The look on his face- so sad.

Posted by: sal at January 24, 2020 12:17 PM (bo8pf)

380 Yeah, fight me.

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 24, 2020 12:16 PM (MIKMs)

Not with that breath.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 24, 2020 12:17 PM (1CjJc)

381 Burt Lancaster was awful. He had the acting ability of a 2x4. And he was a commie prick too Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 24, 2020 12:13 PM (Un9AW)

Submitted as evidence: "Run Silent, Run Deep"
Posted by: Zod at January 24, 2020

*
*

Lancaster's was a "theatrical" acting style. Remember, he began his performing career in a circus as an acrobat. That style suited him well in Elmer Gantry, as his preacher/con man character was pretty theatrical. As he got older his performances became more restrained. See his Mexican former soldier (and sharpshooter) in Valdez Is Coming.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 12:18 PM (Ejm1K)

382 371 The one that always stumps them is to ask them "Tell me HOW life starts...not when."
Posted by: Tami at January 24, 2020 12:16 PM (cF8AT)

Yes, in chemistry or bio class, it was stated you can put every chemical together just like a human but there's still something else missing....that would be LIFE (or a soul if you wish)

Posted by: charlotte the sailor at January 24, 2020 12:18 PM (/rsCS)

383 358
Personally, I don't really care if Trump is a "good person"

Trump is certainly a "good person".

But he wears his flaws openly and proudly. Respect.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at January 24, 2020 12:18 PM (XzVUd)

384
The Bushes we're pro death. They pretended to be pro-life to keep the stupid base of the Republican party happy and quiet.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at January 24, 2020 12:18 PM (3rEjV)

385 >>The fetus is genetically distinct from the mother, meaning it is not part of her body, but a different body within.

The abortion activists also like to ignore how the fetus is genetically distinct from every other fetus that has been/will be apart from identical twins (triplets, etc.).

"It's OK to abort this one, I'll get pregnant again when I'm ready." Except ---- it won't be the same baby, will it? Are you interchangeable with your sibling(s)? No. You're not really given of choice of 'will I have this baby now or later' as the abortions like to think of it. There are no do-overs.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 24, 2020 12:18 PM (bDqIh)

386 Personally, I don't really care if Trump is a "good person" or not (even if, in fact, it seems to me that he's a hell of a lot better person than most presidents have been lately).

He's possibly the best president, measured by pretty much any metric you care to name, than we've had in a century or more.

I'll take that.
Posted by: filbert at January 24, 2020 12:14 PM (YT49/)

Trump's public persona both as president and as a billionaire NY real estate developer/celebrity may lead people to believe he's an A-Hole--Hell, I used to think that when i watched the Apprentice--but when it comes down to the things that MATTER in this life, he's on the right side.
The first clue for me is how well his kids turned out--considering the fame and the money.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 24, 2020 12:18 PM (CqE5x)

387 A caller on a radio station said, in answer to exemption for rape victims, if the rapist is not subject to being killed for raping a person, why should the innocent baby be killed?

Posted by: Chillin the most at January 24, 2020 12:19 PM (lonOK)

388 Posted by: Dagwood at January 24, 2020 12:05 PM (K3bk4)

Lol. That's hilarious.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 24, 2020 12:19 PM (+/QPx)

389 Sure, they were globalist fools, but that doesn't mean they weren't strong on fighting abortion. Retconning history because you're angry at the Bushes isn't any better than when the left does it to people they want to "cancel."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Bing results: Bush family and Planned Parenthood.

https://binged.it/36juxPu

Wish they'd have passed down that strong abortion fight to their daughter Barbara.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 24, 2020 12:19 PM (XkxK0)

390 -
--
Hi Jewells! I have a cool story for you. My best
friend is a pilot for United. He has been picked to fly the Chiefs from
KC to Miami for the Super Bowl. 767-400. He is stoked, even though he is
a Bear fan.

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 24, 2020 11:47 AM

---------------

Pretty cool. Make sure he reports back if any of those guys displays any Wade Boggs type talent.

Posted by: irright at January 24, 2020 12:19 PM (pMGkg)

391
Were.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at January 24, 2020 12:19 PM (3rEjV)

392 The LP reached out to the pot heads in the early 90s.

The theory was that these were naturally libertarian voters. They just didn't know it yet. And drug legalization was always a libertarian principle, if a trivial one, so it seemed to make sense.

But the experiment failed. We now have pot smoking authoritarians running around claiming to be libertarians while they try to take away your rights in the name of saving the earth...

Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2020 12:19 PM (HL3c5)

393 258 Hey just wondering "What Happened to WWIII" ?
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani

Everybody lost. We're all dead. Well, those who survived the Net Neutrality Repeal Genocide are now dead.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 24, 2020 12:19 PM (vN4+Q)

394 The first clue for me is how well his kids turned out--considering the fame and the money.

THIS.

Oh, hi Hunter.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 24, 2020 12:19 PM (Boy/L)

395 I was a reluctant Trump voter, but this time I think will wear all red when I got to pull the lever. Seriously, the NTs who loudly proclaim he isn't fit for office because of his temperament and his crassness just annoy the crap out of me. I would rather a flawed man who gets results than the most outwardly pious who is ineffectual. On the sanctity of life and religious freedom, DJT has delivered. He can atone for his private sins himself. Him doing so or not has no bearing on actual policy. So, boohoo, if they can't be "proud" of the President.

Posted by: no good deed at January 24, 2020 12:20 PM (MmFTx)

396 The worst argument the left ever trots out is the "You support killing adults!" one. Its inane and brain-witheringly stupid on its face but falls to pieces completely upon the slightest examination.

Second only to this is the "You only protect babies when they are unborn" which is demonstrably untrue and obviously so with even the slightest research (adoptions and support of children's charities, creating orphanages etc by right are far, far greater than the left).

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 24, 2020 12:20 PM (KZzsI)

397 Kurt Russell's father was in Magnificent 7
Posted by: DB- just DB at January 24, 2020

*
*

Bing Russell? He must have been in the scenes near the beginning, in the town where the Mexican men are recruiting their gunmen. After the Seven cross the border, it's them, Eli Wallach and his gunmen, and the villagers.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 12:20 PM (Ejm1K)

398 I think the use of Cheeses for the plural is somehow awkward and problematic. I'm going back to bed, fuckers.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 24, 2020 12:21 PM (Q93AK)

399 Birdman of Alcatraz? Elmer Gantry? Valdez is Coming?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 12:12 PM (Ejm1K)

Local Hero?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at January 24, 2020 12:21 PM (IttZ7)

400 As far as Im concerned, Trumps face belongs on Rushmore.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 24, 2020 12:22 PM (nlavE)

401 Bing Russell? He must have been in the scenes near the beginning, in the town where the Mexican men are recruiting their gunmen. After the Seven cross the border, it's them, Eli Wallach and his gunmen, and the villagers.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 12:20 PM (Ejm1K)
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I had to look it up. He's the friend of Henry, the traveling corset salesman.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 24, 2020 12:22 PM (jW9oF)

402 >Bing Russell? He must have been in the scenes near the beginning,

at the beginning, one of the 2 guys who put up the money for the funeral

Posted by: DB- just DB at January 24, 2020 12:22 PM (iTXRQ)

403 I assume that's Victor Mature above, in the "For the 'ettes" photo?

Hedy Lamarr gave Vic a VERY VERY bad review as a boytoy. She wrote that she was really looking forward to checking him out, but that when she finally got the chance, she found out that Vic was always Too Drunk To ****" *

*(that's an actual song title from The Dead Kennedys, btw)

Posted by: mnw at January 24, 2020 12:22 PM (Cssks)

404 Burt Landcaster in The Sweet Smell of Success is amazing.

He's a Liberal or was when he was alive. But he had charisma and physicality. I liked watching him. He always felt a little cold and icy, for some characters, that really works.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 24, 2020 12:22 PM (l4C/z)

405 254, James Madison, There hasn't been an authentic Libertarian candidate for president since 2004. The only candidates that most people would recognize are Ron Paul (off and on again Republican) and Bob Barr (loser of several Republican races then revamped as the LP candidate) in 2008.

At this point, I suspect the point, like in most organizations, is simply to survive and they are willing to take whatever money they can get and the candidates that might bring them a little recognition. The price is that those candidates have to attack whatever the funders of them do not like. Thus, we get SpaceCadet Johnson and Weld by sucking up the small numbers of pro marijuana/ pacifist folks on the right to benefit Hillary. Barr served to attack John McVane and WOT of GWB but not Obama, and so on.

If third parties really wanted influence elections here, then the major push would be in initiative states to allow multiple lines for an election such as NY used to have (not sure at present). Thus, a candidate on the Right could vote more libertarian and get their endorsement plus the regular Republican as well or Dem-Green etc. or else the party reserves the right to run its own candidate if none of the major party ones appeal to the state party.

Posted by: whig at January 24, 2020 12:22 PM (EUDB2)

406 363
I have no idea who this guy is. But apparently he triggers Soyworld pretty badly:

https://tinyurl.com/vj6xrcf

Someone's husband. I got through that much before having to stop reading due to the overwhelming urge to hurl.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at January 24, 2020 12:22 PM (XzVUd)

407 >>Lancaster's was a "theatrical" acting style.
Remember, he began his performing career in a circus as an acrobat. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 12:18 PM (Ejm1K)

Concur. Not everyone is cut out to be an actor.

Posted by: Zod at January 24, 2020 12:22 PM (ZS9TG)

408 396 The worst argument the left ever trots out is the "You support killing adults!" one. Its inane and brain-witheringly stupid on its face but falls to pieces completely upon the slightest examination.

"Get back to me the next time a fetus guns down a convenience store clerk."

Posted by: sal at January 24, 2020 12:23 PM (bo8pf)

409 Victor Manure was great in "The Good Earth."

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 24, 2020 12:23 PM (sWM8x)

410 To that end, the Klan rose again and included anti-furriners to the mix and this organization is shown in the picture above. It was a movement that primarily came from Southern Democratic elites that wanted to forestall changes in the South and country.
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Weird how the democrats were so successful in keeping both the Klan and Catholics under their umbrella for so long.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 24, 2020 12:23 PM (CqE5x)

411 If trees were tall and grasses short,
As in some crazy tale,
If here and there a sea were blue
Beyond the breaking pale,

If a fixed fire hung in the air
To warm me one day through,
If deep green hair grew on great hills,
I know what I should do.

In dark I lie; dreaming that there
Are great eyes cold or kind,
And twisted streets and silent doors,
And living men behind.

Let storm clouds come: better an hour,
And leave to weep and fight,
Than all the ages I have ruled
The empires of the night.

I think that if they gave me leave
Within the world to stand,
I would be good through all the day
I spent in fairyland.

They should not hear a word from me
Of selfishness or scorn,
If only I could find the door,
If only I were born.

--G.K. Chesterton, "By the Babe Unborn"

Posted by: Hillary Radium Clinton at January 24, 2020 12:23 PM (Ndje9)

412 No mention of "From Here to Eternity"?

Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 24, 2020 12:24 PM (jW9oF)

413 I always enjoyed Burt Lancaster in movies, he was entertaining and fun to watch. I wouldn't cast him in Lawrence of Arabia, but not every movie has to be like that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 24, 2020 12:24 PM (KZzsI)

414 Somewhere in my early teens ( maybe 3rd grade.

) within a day or two of each, I remember seeing both the pictures of Holocaust victims stacked up and pro-life pics of baby parts in a trash bag and thought how remarkably similar they seemed.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at January 24, 2020 12:25 PM (r+sAi)

415 Who Dis ?:
That's enuf GINGER to build a whole house.
and Victor in his Immature yoof,letting it all hang out.

I see she parted his hair down the middle ,did he reciprocATE..???

Posted by: saf at January 24, 2020 12:25 PM (5IHGB)

416

Lawman, anyone?

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at January 24, 2020 12:25 PM (3rEjV)

417 In my case I have always been a person that asked "what if everyone did it?", plus I was raised in a Christian home with two parents and house full of brothers and sisters.

Girlfriend at 17 yo got pregnant while we were in high school. Her mom was a wreck but I didn't know it then and I generally liked both of her parents.

She didn't tell me for probably two months and was terrified about what to do while she remained silent.

When she told me I immediately said I would take of her. Her mom reacted violently and began smothering her younger brother with more than he even wanted.

Last night we took our 11, 8 and 3 year old grandchildren out to dinner while my son and DIL went on a date. We live around the corner from each other.

Last weekend we were at another son's house celebrating their daughter's 18th birthday.

My parents have passed. I spend as much time as I can with her dad because he is just awesome.

Easy to say...no regrets.

Posted by: DanMan at January 24, 2020 12:25 PM (XTiHL)

418 Not with that breath.
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I think that means I win. *smirks*

Posted by: mustbequantum at January 24, 2020 12:25 PM (MIKMs)

419 I like Burt in Elmer Gantry and Judgment at Nuremburg. Pretty good range between those two. Everything else is pretty meh.

Posted by: McLurkerson at January 24, 2020 12:15 PM (PNCUr)

Tony Curtis more or less steals the movie from him, but Lancaster's pretty good in Sweet Smell of Success.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at January 24, 2020 12:26 PM (Ki5SV)

420 Burt Lancaster in The Sweet Smell of Success is amazing.

He's a Liberal or was when he was alive. But he had charisma and physicality. I liked watching him. He always felt a little cold and icy, for some characters, that really works.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at January 24, 2020

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I missed a big chunk of that film when it was on TCM, but you're right, that icy quality was perfect for his role as Hunsecker.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 12:26 PM (Ejm1K)

421 The LP reached out to the pot heads in the early 90s.
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Nah, CDs were king by then....

Posted by: JoeF. at January 24, 2020 12:26 PM (CqE5x)

422 @392

There is no reason to compromise, life begins at conception, it's science.

The real question is, when does the value of that life begin.

For most it's at conception for some, never.

We can also do a little thought experiment.....

Let's say the Mars rover is doing it's roving thing and collecting samples, upon analysis of it's collection tube, it sees that it has collected what appears to be an ovum, upon further analysis this ovum is dividing and differentiating, what do you think the headlines in the morning papers across the globe would say?

They would say, LIFE FOUND ON MARS!!!!"

So that essentially puts an end to the debate on when life begins for the, I love science sexually crowd.

Posted by: Mr. Wiffle Snuff at January 24, 2020 12:26 PM (yefUV)

423 Regarding the pro-life march after being O/T,

Societies are best judged as to how they treat those who cannot help nor protect themselves through no fault of their own. We are failing in that task. May G_d help us.

Posted by: whig at January 24, 2020 12:26 PM (EUDB2)

424 I have no idea who this guy is. But apparently he triggers Soyworld pretty badly:
https://tinyurl.com/vj6xrcf
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 24, 2020 12:15 PM (fUqBx)
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Some British actor. But whatever. I actually read some of this because I hate myself, apparently. They sure are worried about people rejecting any facet of their ideology.

All of this, of course, speaks not only to the presence of the very active online communities of anti-feminist incels but to the prevalence of the hideous and incorrect ideas they promote. It doesn't take magical thinking to see how men are radicalised by anti-feminism. As the saying goes: "When you're used to privilege, equality feels like oppression."

The reactionary influence of these ideas doesn't stop at dating, though. As the campaign group Hope Not Hate reported last year, a hostility towards feminism is feeding directly into far-right movements online. They found that a third of young British people today believe that feminism is marginalising or demonising men and warned that these beliefs were a "slip road" to other far-right ideas.

Such nonsense could only come from college. The author of this inanity is a woman called "Vicky Spratt" and based on some of her other articles, she's a real treasure...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 24, 2020 12:27 PM (I2dne)

425 Little Bush was a phony pro-lifer.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at January 24, 2020 12:15 PM (3rEjV)

That goes on the Kohn scale.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth

Yeah. It was big Mac Daddy Bush. (Prescott)

Seeing how he was treasurer of Margaret Sanger's first national fundraising drive.

https://bit.ly/2tE9IBe

Posted by: rickb223 at January 24, 2020 12:27 PM (XkxK0)

426 >>402
>Bing Russell? He must have been in the scenes near the beginning,

Late owner of the Portland Mavericks professional baseball team.

Posted by: Zod at January 24, 2020 12:27 PM (ZS9TG)

427 New Jersey governor signs an executive order to block insurance being allowed to gun owners

https://preview.tinyurl.com/urzcdhp

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 24, 2020 12:27 PM (KZzsI)

428 >>I have no idea who this guy is. But apparently he triggers Soyworld pretty badly:
https://tinyurl.com/vj6xrcf

Heh, he's a British actor from a well-known actor family (you've likely seen his father and uncle in a lot of things). I see he's pissed off all the right people for refusing to be woke and admitting he likes Trump. Nice.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 24, 2020 12:27 PM (bDqIh)

429
Trump didn't make it the first two years, either.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Is he doing it this year only because of impeachment and/or election?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 24, 2020 12:27 PM (aKsyK)

430 So the Klanbakers resume @ 13:00 hours in the Senate/Coliseum .............bring on the pussycats then release the LIONS tomorrow..........blood in the aisles time.

Posted by: saf at January 24, 2020 12:27 PM (5IHGB)

431 @423
God IS helping us. Look at who is President

Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 24, 2020 12:28 PM (nlavE)

432 So the Klanbakers resume @ 13:00 hours in the Senate/Coliseum .............bring on the pussycats then release the LIONS tomorrow..........blood in the aisles time.
Posted by: saf at January 24, 2020 12:27 PM (5IHGB)

Haven't they had their 24 hours by now?

Posted by: JoeF. at January 24, 2020 12:28 PM (CqE5x)

433 Is he doing it this year only because of impeachment and/or election?

At this point I don't care why he's doing it, he's the first President to do it.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 24, 2020 12:29 PM (ZGrMX)

434 I always thought Susan Hayward was a lovely girl, but I'm a sucker for red hair. Always have been. I can't even explain why.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 24, 2020 12:29 PM (KZzsI)

435 I never thought that Lancaster would be so polarizing with film buffs. He had a good 40-year career. He must have been doing something right.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 12:29 PM (Ejm1K)

436 The worst argument the left ever trots out is the "You support killing adults!" one. Its inane and brain-witheringly stupid on its face but falls to pieces completely upon the slightest examination.

It's amazing that anyone can make a moral distinction between an infant and a convicted murderer.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 24, 2020 12:29 PM (YqDXo)

437 Trump speaking at March for Life rally now.

Posted by: Tami at January 24, 2020 12:29 PM (cF8AT)

438 I actually read some of this because I hate myself, apparently.

This is often how I feel on the Internet.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 24, 2020 12:29 PM (ppBhU)

439
Who picked that fugly marble backdrop in the Senate? The guy who did the urinals in Hell!!!

Posted by: saf at January 24, 2020 12:29 PM (5IHGB)

440 427 New Jersey governor signs an executive order to block insurance being allowed to gun owners.

WA state already did that. Insurance Commish canned the coverage.

Posted by: Joe Blowme at January 24, 2020 12:30 PM (/bKlZ)

441 Is he doing it this year only because of impeachment and/or election?

Possibly, he might have wanted to before but was unable to for other reasons. Honestly I don't really care why.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 24, 2020 12:30 PM (KZzsI)

442 410, The trick to doing that in the second iteration was that the older immigrants, Irish, etc. from previous waves of immigration did not like the newcoming Eastern Euros or Italians as they were affected the most by them both in political and economic situations in cities.

It did not help that a lot of the folks coming to the U.S. from 1900-1924 favored Socialism, Anarchism, and Communism which led to the underreported Red Scare in 1920 and the Palmer Raids. This is the context of the Sacco-Vanzetti trial, the assassination of William McKinley, the attempted assassinations of Atty Gen. Palmer and others, and so on.

Posted by: whig at January 24, 2020 12:30 PM (EUDB2)

443 427 New Jersey governor signs an executive order to block insurance being allowed to gun owners
https://preview.tinyurl.com/urzcdhp
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 24, 2020 12:27 PM (KZzsI)

That one is going to get swatted down by the courts so fast, it'll make his head swim.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 24, 2020 12:30 PM (+/QPx)

444 My eureka moment regarding abortion was when I was small: in '92 I asked my dad why he didn't like any of the dems running, his answer was that they were all pro abortion. After asking him what that was, let just say that my 8 year old self was struck by just how barbaric the concept was. I've had little patience for the pro abortion side since then. If an 8 year old boy gets it then anyone with a functional frontal lobe has no excuse.

Posted by: Jackal at January 24, 2020 12:30 PM (Lyh9/)

445 Nood.

Posted by: Flyguy at January 24, 2020 12:30 PM (3sOO0)

446 440 427 New Jersey governor signs an executive order to block insurance being allowed to gun owners.

WA state already did that. Insurance Commish canned the coverage.

Posted by: Joe Blowme at January 24, 2020 12:30 PM (/bKlZ)

WHAT!? How is that even legal?!

Posted by: Tami at January 24, 2020 12:30 PM (cF8AT)

447

I just became pro-late-late-late-late term abortion for certain idiots like Kristool and Con-a-way after seeing that stupid "President Pence" website in the sidebar.

I mean, their Trump Derangement is so strong that they can't even bring themselves to make a case for Pence, who should be their bread and butter. They are just vile, petty, stupid assholes.

Their mothers at least should have the right to take them out.

Posted by: imp at January 24, 2020 12:30 PM (SFOr6)

448 I always thought Susan Hayward was a lovely girl, but I'm a sucker for red hair. Always have been. I can't even explain why.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 24, 2020

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1) Contrast with fair skin

2) High-arched feet (frequently)

3) Fox-like faces (not in an ugly fashion, just kind of narrow), suggesting animality

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 24, 2020 12:31 PM (Ejm1K)

449 427 New Jersey governor signs an executive order to block insurance being allowed to gun owners

https://preview.tinyurl.com/urzcdhp
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

How is that even legal? Oh, New Jersey. Nevermind. Eh, my state of Virginia will do the same thing soon enough, thanks to Gov Jolsen Klansuit and his merry band of Maoists.

Posted by: Puddleglum at January 24, 2020 12:31 PM (vN4+Q)

450 Nood GOP confidence.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at January 24, 2020 12:31 PM (XzVUd)

451 I support killing communists, no matter their nationality. They ALL need killing.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at January 24, 2020 12:32 PM (nlavE)

452 Why pro-life?
Unborn babies are completely innocent- they do not deserve to be killed.
Bad idea to become a murderer. Which is the satanic end game.
Even babies saved from abortion will die someday, in the natural course of things.
But without repentance, the agents of abortion are screwed.

Posted by: sal at January 24, 2020 12:32 PM (bo8pf)

453 >>New Jersey governor signs an executive order to block insurance being allowed to gun owners

Illegal Aliens don't need Insurance, why should you?

Posted by: garrett at January 24, 2020 12:32 PM (hYwyI)

454 392 The LP reached out to the pot heads in the early 90s.

LP was all about pot long before that. I knew libertarians in the 70s and 80s and all they talked about was the virtue of "hemp"

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at January 24, 2020 12:32 PM (LWu6U)

455 428 >>I have no idea who this guy is. But apparently he triggers Soyworld pretty badly:
https://tinyurl.com/vj6xrcf

Heh, he's a British actor from a well-known actor family (you've likely seen his father and uncle in a lot of things). I see he's pissed off all the right people for refusing to be woke and admitting he likes Trump. Nice.
Posted by: Lizzy at January 24, 2020 12:27 PM (bDqIh)
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Timmy Da Pool had a video about this yesterday. Feminazis are now saying it's "dangerous" that men won't date women like them. You can never win with them. When men ask women on a date we're raping them, and now that we're not asking them out on dates it's dangerous. Hoo boy.

Posted by: Augustine at January 24, 2020 12:32 PM (BDZWU)

456 It's amazing that anyone can make a moral distinction between an infant and a convicted murderer.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 24, 2020 12:29 PM (YqDXo)
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I assume you meant "can't" there.

I think it is because they don't accept notions of good or evil and thus can't draw a distinction between guilt and innocence. I don't support the death penalty, though I do think death is a just punishment in some circumstances. But to say, "you can't oppose abortion but support the death penalty" is to say, "there is no difference between guilt and innocence." You can't arrive there if you think that good and evil both exist, and are different from each other.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 24, 2020 12:32 PM (I2dne)

457 The reactionary influence of these ideas doesn't stop at dating, though. As the campaign group Hope Not Hate reported last year, a hostility towards feminism is feeding directly into far-right movements online. They found that a third of young British people today believe that feminism is marginalising or demonising men and warned that these beliefs were a "slip road" to other far-right ideas.

Such nonsense could only come from college. The author of this inanity is a woman called "Vicky Spratt" and based on some of her other articles, she's a real treasure...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 24, 2020 12:27 PM (I2dne)

If I didn't know any better, I'd say that person was making a slippery slope argument. But that can't be, since I've always been told by such people that that's a logical fallacy and we can't infer such things.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 24, 2020 12:32 PM (KUaJL)

458 447, What part of bought do you not understand? The residual professional NT'ers have no principles other than that of the grift and they would sell your body organs in a minute while you were still living if they could get a nickel for them.

Posted by: whig at January 24, 2020 12:33 PM (EUDB2)

459 The trick to doing that in the second iteration was that the older immigrants, Irish, etc. from previous waves of immigration did not like the newcoming Eastern Euros or Italians as they were affected the most by them both in political and economic situations in cities.
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This worked for about one generation until the Irish and Italians started marrying each other and breeding like rabbits

Posted by: JoeF. at January 24, 2020 12:33 PM (CqE5x)

460 "Every child is a precious and sacred gift from God." -

President Donald John Trump 1/21/2020

Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at January 24, 2020 12:33 PM (EMi53)

461 Trump was not asking for a made up dossier. He was not asking for a fit-up. He was asking for an *investigation*. Now put aside the legitimacy of the request without qualification. Or that Trump was the only one who could ask since it involved high level people in both countries. The dems are claiming that the request was bad to do, since everyone knows Biden is innocent. Well, if Biden is innocent, then the request could only lead to .... nothing. No benefit to Trump.

Or, if Biden is guilty than the request is absolutely valid even under dem logic.

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Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at January 24, 2020 12:05 PM (LWu6U)

Great point.

Posted by: LASue at January 24, 2020 12:33 PM (Ed8Zd)

462 on the topic of idiotic arguments that don't pan out - ABC today is pushing this recording from Parnas in which he supposedly agrees to fire Yanukovitch. Ignore the fact that a President can recall an ambassador at any time for any reason (which makes this entire story a big "so what") but they don't seem to notice that the recording was at a dinner in April 2018, but the Ambassador wasn't recalled until April 2019. So, if this was Trump ordering her to be immediately removed, everyone including Trump forgot about it for a full year, and then suddenly remembered. Riiiggghhht.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 24, 2020 12:33 PM (Kpl3J)

463 I'd like to hear your stories on this

I was adopted.

Posted by: Bert G at January 24, 2020 12:34 PM (OMsf+)

464
Lawman, anyone?
Posted by: Soothsayer

Starz Westerns channel 6:18pm

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 24, 2020 12:34 PM (aKsyK)

465 aw
I missed Karl Urban yesterday
sad

Posted by: vmom 2020 at January 24, 2020 12:34 PM (G546f)

466 It's amazing that anyone can make a moral distinction between an infant and a convicted murderer.

I like to game out the economic argument by asking when life begins. Is it when you have an income higher than the poverty rate? What level do you have to reach to have a meaningful life? Because essentially, when you proclaim living in poverty is worse than being killed in the womb, you are saying the people who currently live in poverty should die.

Posted by: no good deed at January 24, 2020 12:34 PM (MmFTx)

467 LP was all about pot long before that. I knew libertarians in the 70s and 80s and all they talked about was the virtue of "hemp"
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at January 24, 2020 12:32 PM (LWu6U)
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And it was easy to roll doobies on an LP cover.
Try that with a CD jewel case!

Posted by: Pot Heads at January 24, 2020 12:34 PM (CqE5x)

468 >>And it was easy to roll doobies on an LP cover.
Try that with a CD jewel case!

A real man needs no crutch to roll a jay.

Posted by: garrett at January 24, 2020 12:35 PM (hYwyI)

469 It really came for me when my wife was pregnant with our youngest daughter at 37. With a previous miscarriage, we were very sensitive accordingly, and were approving of the testing they wanted to do to help ensure we didn't have another. Out of the blue we received a call with geneticists and other doc's telling us the of the diagnosis of Turner's syndrome in our developing child, giving us some more info of what it is, and did we want to abort? (Almost pressured it felt like.)

After getting over the solid gut punch that first call was, I investigated and found some studies out of Europe that most people elect to abort with this diagnosis and that awaful feeling was building up.

We ultimately told them that it didn't make a damn bit of difference to us and we were not aborting (to which the geneticist privately told us she was relieved). My daughter was born months later with no visible symptoms of her diagnosis, and other than some lingering worries about beign fertile, at 13 now she is normal, smart and beautiful.

And we are so grateful.

Posted by: Crucible at January 24, 2020 12:36 PM (CClpm)

470 My Prez is speaking at the March for Life...whatta guy. He's FORCING the MSM to cover it. "What is going on in Virginia??"" i

Posted by: vivi at January 24, 2020 12:37 PM (11H2y)

471 The worst argument the left ever trots out is the "You support killing adults!" one. Its inane and brain-witheringly stupid on its face but falls to pieces completely upon the slightest examination.

Another contender is the "you don't support socialism, so you can't be pro-life".

Another pair of teeth-rattlingly stupid arguments that comes up when you mention adoption:
1. Who's going to adopt all these unwanted kids, YOU?
2. You just want to force women to be breeder sows.

The second one is too moronic to address, but the first one deserves a rebuttal. Here it is: The pool of willing adoptive parents in the US is so healthy, people are willing to spend $20K+ in fees, and go all over the world to adopt a child. Couples are going to India, Russia, China, etc for the chance to be parents.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 24, 2020 12:38 PM (9t0Zz)

472 I had an epiphany that I'd like to share, although it will not be an epiphany to anybody else.

The uproar over Pres. Trump killing Slomani was due to the message it sent. Under Trump, he might have been saying, no longer will "vips and other anonymous people"be exempt from the perils they so willingly send young men and women to fight and die for. Under my watch (Pres. Trumps), it's the vips and military leaders who will die for their causes- not the young men and women.

I only have 3 nephews ( no nieces) and my middle nephew is a first responder marine stationed in Okinawa, so this is personal. He loves Trump, even met him when Trump went to Okinawa, so his whole life is devoted to protecting America. I like to think he is safest with Trump as our president.

Posted by: Chillin the most at January 24, 2020 12:39 PM (lonOK)

473 Everyone who is strongly pro-life has a moment that made them feel this way. What's yours?

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when I was pregnant with KTE and at around 4 months the dr said I should get this screening test to see whether I should get an amnio "just in case"
just in case what?
in case the baby has Down syndrome

and then what?
then I can decide my "options"

so I remember thinking about that (in the shower where I do all my thinking) and just feeling do protective of my baby - there are no "options" except having this baby

skipped the screening stuff, the midwives I transferred too were very sympathetic

Posted by: vmom 2020 at January 24, 2020 12:41 PM (G546f)

474 I grew up with frequent pictures of women who had died from botched back alley abortions in the paper, plus thalidomide babies. So, when Roe vs. Wadehappened, I thought it was okay at first. Then I realized that many, many women were using abortion as their primary voice of birth control, which I thought was just plain bad. Then the limits kept being pushed further and further back until it was accepted that a baby could be killed on the delivery table. And then premature babies were being saved earlier and earlier in a woman's pregnancy.

I wouldn't say I had a sudden flash of insight telling me abortion was wrong. It was just a creeping realization that abortion was abhorrent.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- current occupation: cat furniture at January 24, 2020 12:43 PM (0oVJn)

475 Highschool "taught" me the wonders of abortion which ended the very second I felt my first child's kick from inside the womb. I haven't forgiven the education system since.

Posted by: Markon at January 24, 2020 12:43 PM (pWmr4)

476 there are no "options" except having this baby

I felt the same way. I was also taken aback when they asked me if I wanted a tubal ligation during the intake paperwork for maternity.

Posted by: no good deed at January 24, 2020 12:43 PM (MmFTx)

477 Being pro life just seemed logical to me I can't say I was ever pro abortion. When I really looked into it in my early 20s I was convinced. Fatherhood was prob the final nail. (23 or 24 yo me).

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at January 24, 2020 12:44 PM (0OmEj)

478 I don't disagree with your premise but WHO didn't even like the guy? Early on he started saying all the right things to all the right people.

Many of us, especially religious folk, recognized straight away that he (unlikely as it was) was a beacon and he was just what was needed at the time, and was going to fight. When you know evil intimately, you are keenly aware of what is needed to disarm it. And Trump was presenting that, and standing behind it without equivocation. My second vote for Trump will be no more fervent or vociferous than the first. I am just a little bit prouder, that's all.

When he hit the Bushes it made a lot of people angry. And maybe he hit them a little too hard. But that's the nature of the game. I know damn well Trump has been hit harder than almost anyone. And tell me... was he wrong about the Bushes?

Posted by: ... at January 24, 2020 12:46 PM (fGZok)

479 It's amazing that anyone can make a moral distinction between an infant and a convicted murderer.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 24, 2020 12:29 PM (YqDXo)

Neither can vote so to Democrats they are the same.

Posted by: ... at January 24, 2020 12:49 PM (fGZok)

480 Pro-life because I was raised and am Catholic.
Anti-abortion because in HS, had a friend who made fun of my abstinence since sex was fun. I asked what he was gonna do if his GF got pregnant. She was really liberal, no worries man- abortion no big thing. Well.. she misses a period thinks she's pregnant, starts rethinking the abortion thing since she loves him, it's now real, a part of both of them. He freaks, pissed at her; she's hurt and feeling used. That shattering reality that the 16yr old BF isn't thinking about her, just her parts and his parts. She's devastated. Turns out she's not pregnant after all. But she was very changed, turned to drugs/alcohol, seemed like complete loss of sense of self worth. Cynical, bitter. Was never the same.
Abortion just gives the illusion that a woman can be treated as a sex object.

Posted by: You're in hell, the world ended at at January 24, 2020 12:49 PM (NmR1a)

481 Ha ha, I just saw that Politico is moaning how unfair it is that their good friend Michael Avenatti is being held in solitary confinement in the same prison cell that El Chapo was held on.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 24, 2020 12:52 PM (Kpl3J)

482 To those of the radical-secular left, the word "God" is more shocking and unacceptable in discourse than "fuck."

Posted by: xnycpeasant at January 24, 2020 12:52 PM (koNhm)

483 480 Abortion just gives the illusion that a woman can be treated as a sex object.

Your story illustrates the fact that it's no illusion.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at January 24, 2020 12:53 PM (XzVUd)

484 Late owner of the Portland Mavericks professional baseball team.

Posted by: Zod at January 24, 2020 12:27 PM (ZS9TG)

Great documentary his grandson did about the Mavericks. Think its still on Amazon.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at January 24, 2020 12:53 PM (k/TB6)

485 314 Really good scene stealers are hilarious - one of my faves is Benicio del Toro in the lineup scene in "Usual Suspects". Everyone on the set is laughing at what he does.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 24, 2020 12:07 PM (Kpl3J)

One of my favorites is the final scene of Dr. Strangelove, where Strangelove struggles to keep his arm from giving a Nazi salute. Apparently that was all improv and the guy who played the Soviet diplomat really had a hard time keeping a straight face.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at January 24, 2020 12:58 PM (d6Ksn)

486 463 I'd like to hear your stories on this

I was adopted.
Posted by: Bert G at January 24, 2020 12:34 PM (OMsf+)

I know a guy who was adopted who paid for 2 abortions by 2 different girlfriends. Is there any cognitive dissonance there at all, one wonders.

Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at January 24, 2020 01:02 PM (d6Ksn)

487 "Let's say the Mars rover is doing it's roving thing and collecting samples, upon analysis of it's collection tube, it sees that it has collected what appears to be an ovum, upon further analysis this ovum is dividing and differentiating, what do you think the headlines in the morning papers across the globe would say? They would say, LIFE FOUND ON MARS!!!!"

This is pretty good. But only if they even care about human life.

Posted by: Chris M at January 24, 2020 01:06 PM (eAZVt)

488 My thoughts on PDT.,

I remember supporting Romney, who appeared to be one of the most decent, honest, wholesome men ever, with a great family. He was derided by the left as a putz and an old fogey with a stick up his backside. All his good image got him was contempt from our supposed betters.

In 2016, I supported Ted Cruz, and was amazed that the people that hated that Donald Trump tefused to support Cruz, the only viable alternative, and comparatively a better Conservative. Why weren't the Conservatives supporting Cruz? (Now I know, I naively believed their words up until their actions became so apparent in the Summer of 2016.)

Okay, it's Trump, who was actually my second choice. Everybody that was somebody was deriding him as a liberal, a womanizer, a phony, a business man. He promised to build the wall, fix immigration, trade, and let the Federalists pick his judges. Good enough. Except not good enough for the Republican Establishment.

Immoral? Compared to Bill and Hillary? Then Billy Bush and the Access Hollywood tape hit. Everyone dumped on Trump, and I started asking myself why? What has really changed? He was in the NYC tabloids since I was in high school in the 1970's. He is the same teetotaler, loved by his children by previous wives, salesman he also was. I am not hiring him to be my pastor, I am hiring him to be the President. Last time the Democrats picked a holier than thou, we got four years of Carter bumbling. George Bush may have been a decent man, but he refused to defend himself, and defend his friends and subordinates either. I don't need friends like that.

Basically I decided even if Donald John Trump is an SOB, he is our SOB.

I was pleasantly delighted at 2:30 am on November 9, 2016. I have been mostly happy with my choice every day since.

Promises made. Promises kept.

Posted by: rd at January 24, 2020 01:08 PM (+0uDE)

489 I don't remember when exactly I became Pro life. It's about the time I started realizing how much we were being lied to by the Media and the Democrats and how they seemed to support each other claims.
I know I didn't believe the claims of PP that babies felt no pain, and some other science disproven stuff. I think it was the total numbers and the fact that a lot were Black and that PP got its start from a person who believe abortion should be used on the Lesser Races.
Cause you and I both know that once you start allowing that sort of crap, you have to wonder when YOUR race comes up next. Or ethnicity or demographic.
Let's remember that at the other end of the spectrum of life, older people are also at threat of being murdered by the state because their cost of care is too high or the hospital just doesn't want to be bothered.
Pro life covers the entire spectrum and anyone who thinks that the ideas at one end don't affect the other end is being willfully ignorant.
And to top it all off, Roe V Wade is BAD LAW. And obviously made up by the folks in the black robes. And it's been a downhill struggle on everything because the Left realized they could get stuff made law by convincing 9 people to make it so.

Posted by: jakee308 Now with Linux at January 24, 2020 01:09 PM (AsOgd)

490 He was derided by the left as a putz and an old fogey with a stick up his backside. All his good image got him was contempt from our supposed betters.

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This is a point worth making over and over again.

Posted by: ... at January 24, 2020 01:19 PM (fGZok)

491 When the first issue of Ms. magazine came out (yep, I'm 29) and I saw the photo of the woman dead in the hotel room after the botched abortion, I was pro-abort.

Two things changed my mind. First, the argument about "when does life begin." I'm not the strongest person in science, but even I know that one: conception, duh. Something different now exist, that didn't before. That something doesn't fundamentally change after that, only get bigger.

Second, my own situation. Like the esteemed Barry the Feckless, I should not have been conceived. My parents already had 5 kids and my dad was busy wooing wife #2. If abortion had been legal at that time, no doubt I would not be here. Hence my argument goes: as a former fetus myself...

As for the Ms. Magazine picture: 1) 2 wrongs don't make a right and 2) the abortion was to cover up the white woman's affair with a black man.

Posted by: the last of the bunch at January 24, 2020 01:24 PM (gou4q)

492 I became "pro-life" when I realized abortion was murder. In 1974, we were being told "it" was just a clump of cells we could do whatever with. That was a lie then and it's a lie now. Later, when bumper stickers saying "it's not a choice; it's a baby" started appearing, I started thinking a little more deeply. Yep, I made a major policy change because of a bumper sticker. Doesn't really matter how you get on the right road, just get on it.
Abortion is murder.

Posted by: isacookbook at January 24, 2020 01:45 PM (yPxXc)

493 Sponge

Posted by: deadite at January 24, 2020 01:49 PM (U4tSd)

494 I was on the fence during college. Mostly because I didn't really think about it. It didn't really slam in on me until I was pregnant and went in for the ultrasound at 20 weeks. And I SAW that this wasn't a clump of cells, this was a human being, a life. For my second baby's ultrasound, I swear to God she turned and SMILED at the camera.

Posted by: Nancy at 7000 ft at January 24, 2020 01:55 PM (0tmoY)

495 Back when I was a liberal, though a devout Catholic, I was against abortion in general. I thought abortions were done when the embryo was still a collection of undifferentiated cells, thus unable to suffer so the practice did not haunt me. I also figured that the only abortion I could prevent was the one I chose not to have.

Eventually I became more and more conservative. Then, I learned that most abortions involve sucking out the formed fetus or worse, pulling it apart piece by piece or burning them to death with saline solution. The horror of late term abortion was the final straw of realizing how evil some people are prepared to be to avoid the inconvenience of an unwanted child.

Now I pray at an abortion clinic each week. Watching those young women, many accompanied by the fathers, walk in to the clinic makes me ache. I think of the babies, swirling around in their mothers' wombs, unaware that they will be dead in a few hours.

The good Franciscan priest who leads our prayers calls the clinic, "This chamber of death."

Posted by: Margaret at January 24, 2020 02:11 PM (F2qnR)

496 When my children were born 9 weeks prematurely and I was holding them, the idea of them being physically aborted through cutting their spinal cords or burning them with saline horrified me.

That said, legally I am conflicted. Every child deserves parents not willing to murder them with say a partial birth abortion.

It sucks but Politically I must confess that the most redpilled women I know are ones who were content to go along with lefts free shit/tolerance tyranny talk until they faced abortions reality which did get them to finally see the brimstone fist inside of the velvet glove the TV hides it in.

Posted by: Shiggz at January 24, 2020 02:18 PM (keoqc)

497 I grew up in a union household in an extremely left-leaning US city. However, my family, like many of the old-school blue-collar ones, was quite conservative in word and deed.

Back in 1985, when I was just 5 years old, my aunt and uncle - the parents of one of my cousins, found out they were expecting again. I don't know if you all have witnessed the experienced the excitement very small girls have when someone close to them is expecting, but most of them are just filled with pure joy of the thought of a baby on the way.

In any case, my aunt miscarried at 7 1/2 months. She knew something was wrong, but the doctors assured her that the lessening of movement & what have you was merely due to a lack of space, what have you. There was no birth defect or anything that had caused it; he had merely twisted himself up in the umbilical cord so badly that he managed to strangle himself. Had the doctors actually paid attention to what she was saying, they could have saved him.

In any case, there was no question that this was a baby, albeit not born yet. There was a graveside funeral for him, and I remember his older brother, who had just turned two, absolutely wailing during the entire service while another aunt held him.

Back then, I didn't even know such an evil as abortion existed, but having experienced that, even being in the liberal cesspool my hometown is, there was never any question in my mind that before birth the baby is merely a "clump of cells".

Posted by: Katja at January 24, 2020 02:56 PM (fFYAm)

498 My pro-life story: A girl I was dating in college announced to me that she thought she might be pregnant (by me, natch), and was planning on getting an abortion. She was very firm about that -- she was ready to go down to the clinic the second her doctor confirmed it.

Up until that time I'd been vaguely pro-choice, but I remember her words hitting me like a thunderbolt, because all I could think of was: "She is going to kill our baby. That's MY baby -- my flesh and blood! My CHILD!" Until that moment, I'd never thought of a fetus as a person. People would say, "it's just a clump of cells," and I accepted it without thinking. But suddenly, when it was MY clump of cells (well, half mine, anyway), it all became real.

As it turned out, she wasn't pregnant after all, but I spent a tense couple of days psyching myself up to try and beg, plead, cajole, or bribe her into keeping the baby. All I could think of was, "please don't kill our child! PLEASE don't kill our baby!" I was 100 percent prepared to raise it on my own if that's what it took. I remember spending those two days in a state of total panic and fear that I wouldn't be able to convince her.

So, yeah. I've been pro-life ever since that moment. It was like somebody flipped a switch and I instantly changed sides.

Posted by: Ex-liberal at January 24, 2020 03:41 PM (R1mDg)

499 I was young and somewhat liberal and had just moved to DC. I went to an Abortion Rights protest supporting choice. There were some younger (HS age) women there on the pro-life side and an abortion rights activist was in there screaming at them and calling them names. Then she turned around to the cheers of her side and was wearing a shirt that read "I have had 6 abortions and I proud of it!"
That one event change my worldview on this issue and many, many more.

Posted by: Kasper-X-Hauser at January 24, 2020 04:12 PM (MgAiR)

500 Oregon Muse - this is a GREAT write-up. Truly well done. Thanks for sharing these thoughts.

Posted by: Forheremenaremen at January 24, 2020 04:41 PM (betRQ)

501 Liberals with a Bumper Sticker SAVE THE REDWOODS and window sticker KEEP ABORTION LEGAL

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at January 24, 2020 05:22 PM (wGqjj)

502 OK - my pro-life story, and I will acknowledge that a woman who becomes pregnant through whatever circumstance and doesn't want to be pregnant has a sad situation on her hands. I am sad for her decision to go through with an abortion; it's horrific, life-denying, and a bad decision, all around ... but enough about others. This one is me.
And I wrote about it in my own memoirs, and touched on it a couple of times over the years in the original mil-blog, so it's not anything new.
The guy that I loved and thought that I might marry turned out not to be worthy - and after spending a couple of weeks with him on leave, I came back to the base that I was at ... feeling rather odd. Period late, weird crampy feeling. Did the usual thing at that date; peed into a jar first thing in the morning, dropped it off at the base clinic and waited to be called in at the end of the day for the results.
The duty nurse had a line of prescription bottles on her desk. She asked me to close the door after me ... so, my first clue.
Said that the result was positive - I was pregnant. I was working at the FEN outlet, as a newscaster. Everyone knew who I was. And that I was not married. Duty nurse said that the base hospital did not perform abortions, but that if I desired such, they would refer me to an approved clinic in town which did them.
I didn't even think about it, not even for a millisecond. I said, "No, I will keep the baby."
And she looked so relieved, and pushed the line of prenatal vitamins over the desk toward me.
Never heard from my daughter's father again. Gone from my life - but my daughter has been my pride and one of my greatest accomplishments.
Pity her sperm donor turned out to be such a doosh, but it seems that I was not such a good judge of character, early on.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at January 24, 2020 06:30 PM (xnmPy)

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